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00:00:30 It's hard to remember now, but people mocked Ronald Reagan and in fact expressed what seemed

00:00:35 like genuine alarm about Ronald Reagan based on his age when he was president. Ronald Reagan was

00:00:41 the oldest man at the time to serve as president of the United States. He was 77 when he left

00:00:48 office. Of course, he died of Alzheimer's. But even while he was president, people accused him

00:00:53 of having Alzheimer's. He was seen as very, very, very old. Well, 40 years ago this week, Ronald

00:01:00 Reagan was in his second term two years into it. It was right after the midterm elections. Of course,

00:01:06 that year, 1986, in which Republicans did very badly, Ronald Reagan was 75 years old at the time.

00:01:13 And this is not widely remembered, but it was that year, 40 years ago this week, that Ronald Reagan

00:01:19 signed an amnesty bill, probably the first in American history, that gave amnesty legal status

00:01:25 to people who had been breaking the law. It basically wiped away their crimes, sort of as if

00:01:29 by magic, a stroke of a pen, and put them on what we now refer to as a path to citizenship. It

00:01:35 legalized them, about three million people. People who were living here legally, and thanks to Ronald

00:01:39 Reagan signing this, they were on their way to becoming citizens. And people don't remember it

00:01:46 in part because history records Ronald Reagan as a terrifyingly right-wing president.

00:01:50 And by the second year of his second term, he'd been hearing that, well, for six years.

00:01:55 Ronald Reagan is a racist because you may not remember this.

00:01:59 He began his national presidential campaign in 1980 near a town called Philadelphia, Mississippi,

00:02:05 where three civil rights workers famously had been murdered during the civil rights movement in the 1960s.

00:02:10 It wasn't actually in Philadelphia, not to relitigate all this 46 years later,

00:02:15 But it was very meaningful at the time. Ronald Reagan began his first term as president with every headline in the country calling him a racist, and they kept it up, well, almost the entire time he was president.

00:02:27 So six years in, Ronald Reagan had been called a racist, a fascist, a Nazi every single day for six years, and he was probably a little tired of it, in part because whatever Ronald Reagan was, he was not actually very right-wing, at least on the social issues.

00:02:43 It was Ronald Reagan who signed the second legalized abortion law in the United States.

00:02:50 A few months after Colorado signed its law legalizing abortion in 1967, Ronald Reagan

00:02:56 legalized abortion in the state of California.

00:02:58 He's not remembered for that.

00:02:59 In fact, AI probably won't even tell you that, but it's a fact.

00:03:03 Ronald Reagan was an abortion pioneer legalizing abortion in the country's biggest state.

00:03:08 Ronald Reagan was also married to a liberal woman and had a liberal daughter and was,

00:03:12 as just noted demonstrably liberal in the social issues you wouldn't have known that unless you

00:03:17 paid close attention because again he was constantly being attacked as a nazi and too old

00:03:22 and so it's possible that six years into his term as president he just kind of gave up and signed

00:03:31 the biggest amnesty bill in american history ronald reagan is really kind of the father of

00:03:37 radical demographic change in this country in any case we thought it'd be interesting to look back

00:03:41 40 years to the week at Ronald Reagan signing amnesty for three million illegal aliens. Here he

00:03:46 is. This bill, the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, that I'll sign in a few minutes,

00:03:53 is the most comprehensive reform of our immigration laws since 1952. It's the product of one of the

00:04:00 longest and most difficult legislative undertakings in the last three Congresses.

00:04:05 Further, it's an excellent example of a truly successful bipartisan effort.

00:04:11 The administration and the allies of immigration reform on both sides of the capital and both sides of the aisle

00:04:17 worked together to accomplish these critically important reforms to control illegal immigration.

00:04:24 Distance has not discouraged illegal immigration to the United States from all around the globe.

00:04:29 The problem of illegal immigration should not, therefore, be seen as a problem between the United States and its neighbors.

00:04:36 Our objective is only to establish a reasonable, fair, orderly, and secure system of immigration into this country

00:04:43 and not to discriminate in any way against particular nations or people.

00:04:47 Future generations of Americans will be thankful for our efforts to humanely regain control of our borders

00:04:55 and thereby preserve the value of one of the most sacred possessions of our people,

00:04:59 American citizenship.

00:05:01 Well, the first thing you notice, he doesn't seem that old, really,

00:05:04 certainly by modern standards.

00:05:05 Again, he was 75 when he gave that speech.

00:05:07 Some say he had Alzheimer's as he gave it.

00:05:10 And yet he was still younger than at least 10 current sitting,

00:05:14 or in some cases slumping, members of the United States Senate

00:05:17 who are much older than Ronald Reagan was.

00:05:19 And of course, our current president is 85 years older than Ronald Reagan was.

00:05:24 In any case, if you listen to what he just said, he said, this is actually this bill to provide amnesty to people breaking federal law is actually an effort to stop illegal immigration.

00:05:35 He said that multiple times.

00:05:37 Future generations will thank us for securing our borders and preserving the value of American citizenship.

00:05:44 So the reason to play something like that, the reason to watch that, apart from its inherent historical interest, is to measure the promises of the time against the reality of the present.

00:05:55 And there is a big divide between the two.

00:05:58 Of course, 40 years later, citizenship is barely recognized as a concept by states and municipalities across the country and perhaps coming soon by the federal government.

00:06:09 people who are not citizens who are foreign born and foreign nationals people who are citizens of

00:06:15 other countries but here illegally get to vote in elections across the country not in federal

00:06:21 elections but in state and local elections did the amnesty law of 1986 reduce illegal immigration

00:06:28 well let's see at the time there and of course no one ever knows exactly how many illegal aliens

00:06:34 are in the country at any one time because they don't register and for some reason in a nation

00:06:38 that has really led the world in counting things

00:06:41 and creating metrics, in measuring everything

00:06:44 that is based on the scientific method of measuring things.

00:06:47 We can't seem to measure within like 10 million

00:06:50 the number of illegal aliens in the country.

00:06:52 It's sort of weird.

00:06:53 Flock cameras aren't helping at all.

00:06:55 But in any case, it was about 3, 3.2 million

00:06:59 illegal aliens in the country estimated

00:07:01 when Ronald Reagan signed that law.

00:07:03 He gave amnesty to basically all of them.

00:07:06 Today, 40 years later, we have,

00:07:08 well let's see so the liberal pro-immigration groups claim there may be 15 million illegal

00:07:14 aliens in the country the trump administration says at various times there are 25 million they

00:07:19 do run the government so they might have some sense other times they say there are 50 million

00:07:23 people here illegally greg bovino who was the commander in charge of the border patrol whose

00:07:29 job it was to keep track of these things just said recently there are 100 million illegal aliens in

00:07:34 this country. So whatever it is, whether it's anywhere between 15, the low estimate, 100,

00:07:39 the high estimate, there are a lot more illegal aliens in this country than there were in 1986

00:07:44 when Ronald Reagan signed the law designed to secure our border and end illegal immigration.

00:07:49 And this has been much written about subsequently in those 40 years. But that law, giving amnesty

00:07:57 to people who were under the shadow of the law before it was signed, in other words, they were

00:08:01 breaking the law, and they knew it, and so did everybody else, making them legal did not end

00:08:08 illegal immigration. It inspired massive waves of it, and then the perhaps inevitable demographic

00:08:15 change that followed. So when Reagan signed that in 1986, the United States had a population of

00:08:20 about 240 million people. Today, again, we can only guess because the one thing we're not good

00:08:25 at counting is who lives here, but it looks like the United States has a population of about 350

00:08:30 million people. So that's a huge increase in people, more than 100 million people in 40 years

00:08:38 in a finite amount of space and certainly a finite amount of infrastructure. So by legalizing 3

00:08:45 million, you got tens of millions more. And if you think about it, considering the state of the

00:08:51 American birth rate, which the higher you hike immigration, the lower the birth rate goes,

00:08:55 and it's very low at this point, below replacement, it seems very obvious that the majority

00:09:00 of people included in that increase of 110 million the majority of them are foreign-born

00:09:07 and that means that the country has turned over completely and the bottom line numbers tell you

00:09:14 that so when Reagan signed that the United States was about I don't know 80 percent white 81 I think

00:09:21 and it's now about half the state of California then as now our biggest state where Reagan was

00:09:27 from. He was the governor, of course, famously of California. The state of California was about 70%

00:09:32 white when he signed that, and now it's in the range of about 30%. So that's a big change,

00:09:38 whether you welcome it or not. But there are all kinds of other changes which may or may not be

00:09:43 connected to that observation that are not welcomed by anybody. California had relatively

00:09:49 little poverty in 1986. Now it's got an above average amount of poverty, and if you drive

00:09:54 through certain parts of it, it's all on display because there are hundreds of thousands of people

00:09:58 living on the street. Not all of that as a result of immigration, but you can't say

00:10:02 that stuffing the state with people from foreign countries have made it a better state because

00:10:06 that's just not true. That combined with probably other phenomena have made it a much

00:10:11 poorer and more dysfunctional state. When Reagan signed that, it was only 1986, not that long ago,

00:10:18 the majority of public school students in the state of California, like the majority of the

00:10:21 population were white. Now it's about 20%. Now part of the reason for that is the absolute decline

00:10:27 in white people in California and in America, by far the fastest shrinking group in the country,

00:10:33 by far. But also it's a measure of the failure of California schools. So California had above

00:10:40 average, in some cases, top performing schools nationwide around the time Ronald Reagan signed

00:10:44 that bill. And now California has some of the worst schools in the country. And the test scores,

00:10:50 though they can't quite be compared to each other because this test has been completely changed in

00:10:54 an effort to hide the declining educational attainment of students you can still play with

00:11:00 the numbers a little bit and find out that the bottom line truth is fewer california students

00:11:05 can read or do basic math than could 40 years ago a lot fewer and far fewer go to school the

00:11:12 absentee rate in california schools is almost 20 it's like a fifth of the class just doesn't show

00:11:16 up. So the state, in a lot of ways, certainly at the public end, services for the public,

00:11:22 the things that everybody gets, roads, education, power, if you're not rich, the things that you

00:11:28 rely on, in every category, the state has become, well, a lot more like the countries from which

00:11:34 its population came. No one wants to hear that, but is there another explanation? That's just true.

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00:13:54 for a second while all kinds of great things have happened since 1986 would you go back to a country

00:14:00 before ronald reagan signed that amnesty bill you'd have to say you would because on a baseline

00:14:06 measurement it was a richer more stable and certainly more unified country and that leads

00:14:11 to the part that like no one ever says out loud but maybe the most important part and it's not

00:14:15 how crowded are your hospitals answer way too crowded to use in a lot of cases no the question

00:14:20 is what unites all 350 million americans living within the borders of this country and the answer

00:14:27 is increasingly hard to find now for most countries the first answer of course is language

00:14:32 We all speak the same language, and language, because it shapes the way people think and process information and imagine things and dream, language is the main driver of culture and of the stories that over time form a history.

00:14:47 So if you don't have a language unifying the country, well, the country in the end probably falls apart or lives in a state of soft civil war like, I don't know, Belgium or Canada.

00:14:57 There are tons of examples. It can't live in harmony, a country that doesn't have a common

00:15:03 language, and it doesn't. Civil wars start over language all the time, and they always have.

00:15:09 So leaving aside the race question, and even the income question, any economic question,

00:15:15 at a core level, how does your nation hang together depends probably more than anything else

00:15:21 on what language people speak. And unfortunately, the Reagan amnesty of 1986 has been followed by

00:15:27 an explosion of languages. And not just languages that people use at home, which seems legitimate,

00:15:34 but languages that people use in public and that the government at the state level and at the

00:15:40 federal level uses to communicate with them. So for example, in the city of Los Angeles,

00:15:46 election materials, and we actually have the list because it's hard to believe this was real,

00:15:50 are now provided in 23 different languages. Here are the languages that the county of Los Angeles

00:15:57 the biggest county in the state of california uses to disseminate election materials

00:16:01 armenian bengali burmese chinese cambodian kemer farsi filipino gujarati hindi indonesian japanese

00:16:09 korean mongolian russian spanish thai vietnamese etc so the the question becomes why would you

00:16:18 educate people and give them voting instructions in a language that is not the majority language

00:16:27 in the country. In other words, you're asking people to run a government that operates in a

00:16:32 different language from the one they speak. How can they weigh in in a meaningful way? How are

00:16:37 they part of the system if they don't speak the language? And no one has bothered to answer that

00:16:41 question because it's almost never asked. In fact, the last time anyone in the Senate asked him

00:16:45 that question, he was immediately denounced by Chuck Schumer, the then Senate Majority Leader,

00:16:52 as a racist, despite the fact that language and race are completely different things.

00:16:55 but in any case the explosion of immigration into this country has been overwhelming in absolute

00:17:02 terms very few countries in history have had a turnover demographically as quick as the one

00:17:06 we've lived through for 40 years but it has also been accompanied by a total unwillingness

00:17:12 to think through basic questions like how do we not have a civil war and in fact if you think

00:17:17 about it if you take three steps back the people pushing it well it's hard to know motive seem to

00:17:22 be motivated by a desire to break the country into smaller pieces really to atomize it to make

00:17:29 sure that there is no common anything no language no culture no religion no race just a bunch of

00:17:37 individuals living in apartments on public assistance taking orders i mean not to be

00:17:41 conspiracy minded about it but in every single turn there has been an explicit effort to make

00:17:48 certain that people aren't united in any common thing, that there's no working majority of

00:17:54 anything. It almost seems like a divide and conquer strategy, just saying. It is recognizable

00:17:59 in that way. But in any case, it has happened. And then the final and most obvious effect that

00:18:04 we used to talk about but rarely do now, the mass migration into the United States that followed

00:18:09 Ronald Reagan's 1986 Amnesty Act, certainly his liberal wife and daughter were congratulating him

00:18:16 after and of course he didn't live to see the consequences as elderly leaders never do but one

00:18:21 of the consequences could have been foreseen and that was the total collapse in wages for people

00:18:26 at the bottom end of the labor market and the reason that previous generations would have

00:18:32 understood this is because immigration was always always understood to be a response to labor needs

00:18:38 and the core tension was between employers who wanted more workers so they would have to pay less

00:18:42 because supply and demand never changes.

00:18:45 If you've got more of something, its value falls.

00:18:48 That's why grains of sand are cheap.

00:18:50 If you have more workers, you don't have to pay them as much.

00:18:53 But in a tight labor market with fewer workers, you have to pay them more.

00:18:57 And what employer wants to pay more?

00:18:59 So it was pressure from employers in 1986 and in 1965 and at the turn of the last century,

00:19:07 at any point in American history in the 1840s, where you've seen big waves of migration

00:19:12 come to the U.S., it was always employers who pushed

00:19:14 for it because they wanted

00:19:16 lower wages. This is not a mystery

00:19:18 and it's the main reason the immigration

00:19:20 restriction of 1924,

00:19:23 the act that kind of

00:19:24 ended migration into the United

00:19:26 States, well, for 40 years,

00:19:28 was pushed by

00:19:30 the labor unions. Not because they were

00:19:32 racist, didn't want any

00:19:34 more people from Eastern or Central Europe.

00:19:36 In fact, they were run in large part by people

00:19:38 from Eastern and Central Europe. No, it had nothing to do

00:19:40 with race. It had to do with economics.

00:19:42 If you have more of something, it's worth less, and that includes labor.

00:19:46 So what has been the effect of this mass migration into the United States?

00:19:52 Migration so mass, so vast, kind of resembles an invasion.

00:19:56 That's just true based on the numbers.

00:19:59 What's been the effect on labor markets?

00:20:01 Well, you may already know the answer, which is for high school educated men, they have

00:20:04 been stagnant.

00:20:05 For white American born men of all kinds, they have been stagnant.

00:20:10 White American-born women have done pretty well.

00:20:13 White American-born men have not.

00:20:16 And among black men, American-born, not immigrants from Africa,

00:20:21 but people who were born here, usually descendants of slaves,

00:20:24 their wages have gone down over 40 years.

00:20:27 And that shouldn't surprise anybody.

00:20:30 So that bill, which Reagan told us would end illegal immigration,

00:20:34 actually sparked a lot more of it.

00:20:36 30x illegal immigration blew the population to 110 million more people at least in 40 years

00:20:47 without building a say new interstate highway system or a brand new power grid basically the

00:20:53 same infrastructure for 120 million new people and it completely shafted the group that we now

00:21:03 refer to as Trump voters. And so if you think about it, maybe for like 10 seconds, it's not

00:21:09 that surprising that the people who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020 and 2024 did because they

00:21:17 were overwhelmingly in the group whose wages had remained stagnant for 40 years thanks to

00:21:22 immigration. Therefore, you should not be shocked when they vote for a guy who says he's going to

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00:21:45 So there's kind of no upside.

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00:24:01 why the trump message which and its core message was always against more immigration into the

00:24:07 united states always so given that what we saw on 60 minutes on Sunday was a little bit surprising

00:24:16 or was it? Well, we'll let you decide whether you're shocked by this or not. But here is

00:24:22 President Donald Trump days after losing in the biggest landslide probably in our lifetimes

00:24:28 in the midterm elections when the Republican Party was repudiated up and down, lost the House

00:24:33 and the Senate by huge margins, lost seats in states that no one ever imagined were at play.

00:24:39 Kansas, Mississippi, Alabama, total blowout. And the question was like, how is Trump going to

00:24:45 respond to this, will he be defiant? Well, here was his actual response. For getting people out,

00:24:53 I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out, but I get hurt because we also took people

00:25:00 that had good jobs, that created one violation for breaking of the law, and that was that they

00:25:06 came into the country illegally. Now, there is a large part of the country that think that they

00:25:12 should be put out and there's a large part of the country that think that they

00:25:16 should be allowed to stay if they're good people working in a landscaping

00:25:19 company or working in a hotel or doing something right and in some cases paying

00:25:26 taxes and there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed

00:25:30 to stay so so you think your deportation policy it was too tough I think it

00:25:36 might be too tough yeah and a lot of people would say that it's great but a

00:25:41 lot of people think it's too tough. What does the deal look like with the Democrats? I think ultimately that hurt me. I think it, well, the deal would be we would work something out. And I think it's something, I think that's something that's actually doable. But you think the Democratic Party right now has people in it who would be interested in this kind of deal? I think so, yeah. People have already called me. Yeah, people have already called me about doing the deal, about doing the one thing, well, after starting regime change wars in the Middle East that I said I would never do.

00:26:11 which is give amnesty to a number I've described as tens of millions of people here illegally,

00:26:16 but we've already been talking about it, Trump says. So what is this exactly?

00:26:21 Well, those who know Trump know exactly what it is, and this is not a reflection of his deep

00:26:26 desire to change the demographic mix of America, probably not. He is, after all, a racist, remember?

00:26:33 No. What it likely is, is Trump's deepest desire, which is to be liked by other people.

00:26:39 and so stung by a nationwide rejection in the midterm elections Trump casts about for someone

00:26:47 who might like him and finds the Democratic Party and decides maybe we can make a deal maybe if I do

00:26:53 the one thing that you want me to do which is offer amnesty to tens of millions of people and

00:26:59 thereby ensure that you will run this country forever because they're all going to vote for

00:27:04 Democrats of course that's how California by the way went from a state that elected Ronald Reagan

00:27:09 and Pete Wilson and George Duke Majan,

00:27:11 a state in which Bill Clinton lost in 1992

00:27:14 to the most reliable Democratic state out of 50,

00:27:18 and it's because of immigration,

00:27:19 because there are different people there.

00:27:21 It was 70% white, now 30%.

00:27:23 Like, it's kind of that simple.

00:27:25 And the Democrats know that

00:27:26 because they're, unlike the Republicans, not stupid,

00:27:28 and they lie to themselves a little bit less.

00:27:31 And in case, Trump looks around and he says,

00:27:32 who could possibly like me?

00:27:34 Well, my own party's mad at me

00:27:36 because I betrayed them and everything.

00:27:37 And so he just moves instinctively, as a cold animal does to the fire, toward the warmth of acceptance, and he wound up endorsing the one thing he said he would never do.

00:27:51 So if you're shocked by this, if you're shocked by this betrayal, you probably haven't been paying close attention because actually, at almost every single point for the past six years that he has held power, Donald Trump, when under pressure, has moved in exactly this direction.

00:28:07 You smack him hard enough, and all of a sudden he starts offering his enemies the one thing that they want that will certainly destroy him.

00:28:15 It's a tick of his personality, but those who've watched him are very familiar with it.

00:28:19 Charlie Kirk saw this coming, and he saw this coming at exactly the moment that Trump, in the first two years of his second term, was under the most pressure.

00:28:29 And that was during the period when he had unleashed what we now know is the prelude to the regime change war.

00:28:34 But it was the war to eliminate Iran's nuclear program.

00:28:38 And as that whole debate was going on, Charlie Kirk in this clip saw what was going on beneath the surface.

00:28:44 Watch this. Literally the day before President Donald Trump was signing the big, beautiful bill.

00:28:52 I got a couple of phone calls from people that you would call members of the ruling class.

00:28:57 a lot of money and a lot of connections they said charlie isn't this amazing we passed the

00:29:01 big beautiful bill i said oh yes sir and they said now we need mass amnesty what i said we

00:29:10 haven't even signed the bill yet they said yeah you know these deportations we're going to lose

00:29:14 the midterms because of the deportations the the people on the right they'll understand

00:29:19 and we need to come to the middle and we need to legalize the 25 million people here in this

00:29:25 country. I was speechless. So we don't know any details, but it looks as if President Trump might

00:29:30 be in preliminary discussions. And I could tell you that there are many different discussions

00:29:35 that I've had with people and they are pushing it hard to create some kind of amnesty proposal

00:29:40 aimed specifically at farm laborers in the United States. But it's more than that.

00:29:43 It could be hotels. It could be leisure properties. If you want to break our coalition,

00:29:50 go and push amnesty. That right there would be a complete collapse of everything that we have

00:29:55 worked for everything farm labor it always starts with farm labor we need the farmer who's going to

00:30:02 pick the crops there are still crops that are picked by hand not that many no grain is picked

00:30:09 by hand of course but increasingly the world is mechanized i mean it's true when you go to a

00:30:16 convenience store and you check yourself out and it's true if you're harvesting sugar cane

00:30:20 for example 1986 when reagan signed his bill and of course it was heavily geared toward the

00:30:25 ag sector which we need it's a national security question no americans gonna pick a crop obviously

00:30:29 because they're lazy when that bill was signed about two-thirds of all sugarcane cut in this

00:30:35 country was cut by hand by sugarcane workers you remember that appalling conditions living near

00:30:40 lake okachobee now how much sugarcane is cut by hand oh about zero in the united states about

00:30:46 zero even in brazil another huge sugar producer basically zero it's all mechanized and that's

00:30:52 true for a bunch of different segments of the agricultural sector so actually the labor needs

00:30:58 have reduced across the board not just in ag but across the country we need less labor

00:31:03 but the press for amnesty and for more immigration remains undiminished kind of amazing and we'll get

00:31:13 into why that is what could possibly motivate that it doesn't make any sense but before we do

00:31:20 just a reminder that no one is for this now there are some who are ideologically possessed

00:31:26 on the subject and they think that any immigration restriction is racist and white supremacist and

00:31:32 etc etc if you're against immigration you're a racist that's a pretty small group actually

00:31:37 with no working majority of anything it's a now a multi-racial country for better or for worse

00:31:43 That's not changing. Most people, including the majority of Hispanic men who voted for Donald

00:31:50 Trump, are not against immigration because of the race of the people. They're against it because it

00:31:58 undercuts their wages. It puts strain on their services. It makes their cities less manageable,

00:32:04 less orderly. It makes the country poor. There's no economic justification, of course, for mass

00:32:09 migration in 2026, zero. It's not good for them. It's not good for anybody. And almost everybody

00:32:16 is against it. Even the people who claim they're not against it and who parade around telling you,

00:32:22 you know, they're getting their housekeeper a green card and they're good people and they're

00:32:25 not racist. Well, they're all now living in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Well, why? Because there's

00:32:31 no diversity there. That's why. So on some level, everyone agrees with this. This has not been good.

00:32:38 it hasn't helped anybody even recent immigrants are against it even the majority of hispanic men

00:32:45 are against it and again it was on the basis of this pledge i'm gonna end this that trump got

00:32:52 elected just two years ago so in case you've forgotten what he said about his plans on

00:32:58 immigration here's a quick selection from well weeks before he won that election watch

00:33:04 Immediately upon taking the oath of office, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history.

00:33:12 And I will rescue every town across America that's been invaded and conquered.

00:33:25 These towns have been conquered.

00:33:26 When I return to the White House, we will stop the plunder, rape, slaughter and destruction of our American suburbs and cities and towns.

00:33:36 We will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in the history of our country.

00:33:41 We have no choice.

00:33:43 The United States is now an occupied country, but it will soon be an occupied country no longer.

00:33:51 November 5th, 2024 will be Liberation Day in America.

00:33:56 And on day one, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history.

00:34:04 We're going to get these criminals out.

00:34:06 To keep our families safe, the Republican platform promises to launch the largest deportation

00:34:13 operation in the history of our country.

00:34:17 I will rescue every city and town that has been invaded and conquered, and we will put

00:34:23 these vicious and bloodthirsty criminals in jail, going to kick them the hell out of our country as

00:34:29 fast as possible. We're going to deport everybody. And it was on that pledge, everyone here illegally,

00:34:39 not just people who criticize the Israeli government who have legitimate green cards,

00:34:42 but people who are here illegally are going to be deported. Did he mean it? Well, let's just

00:34:49 check the numbers as of right now as of tonight which is on or about november 11th 2026 donald

00:34:57 trump has deported fewer people than barack obama did in his second term well you say that's unfair

00:35:05 that's counting obama's entire second term versus just the first half of trump's second term fair

00:35:10 but the pace is lower which is to say if trump deports as many people in the next two years

00:35:18 as he has in the first two years if he doesn't as he just promised in the 60 minutes if you just

00:35:24 slow it way down but if he keeps it up at the same racist breakneck pace he will at the end

00:35:30 of this term have deported fewer people than barack obama did in his secondary and that's

00:35:36 barack obama who was ideologically committed to the project of changing the demographics of the

00:35:43 United States to ensure the continued dominance of his party, the Democratic Party.

00:35:50 He's deported fewer people than Barack Obama.

00:35:53 That's just a fact.

00:35:55 And by the way, if you really believed that opening up the borders during the Biden administration,

00:36:01 letting 50 million people into the country illegal or whatever the number was, tens

00:36:05 of millions of people, then, of course, you would at least have hearings into the people

00:36:09 who did it.

00:36:09 and that would be Alejandro Mayorkas of the Department of Homeland Security,

00:36:14 and that would be Merrick Garland, the former attorney general.

00:36:16 Where are they?

00:36:17 Not before Congress answering questions on how they did that.

00:36:19 Not one person that we're aware of from the previous administration

00:36:22 has ever even been forced to answer the question under oath.

00:36:26 Why did you do that?

00:36:28 And how was it done?

00:36:29 How did all these people get from South America across the Darien Gap in Panama

00:36:35 to Mexico and then into San Diego County?

00:36:38 Like, who abetted that?

00:36:39 who paid for that who paid for all the flights into the united states we still don't know

00:36:42 and you would think that the people who run our vast law enforcement agencies and our intel

00:36:49 agencies for that matter people in the west wing would get to the bottom of that question who paid

00:36:54 for all this somebody did but they haven't and so that should have been a sign just like failure

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00:40:51 So it seems clear, no matter what they're telling you,

00:40:53 and of course they're walking back Trump's remarks

00:40:55 on 60 Minutes, well, he didn't really mean it,

00:40:57 and Trump is telling people around him,

00:40:58 well, if there's a bill in the Senate,

00:41:00 we're gonna insert poison pills into it

00:41:02 so the Democrats can't possibly vote for it.

00:41:05 But the fact is, the most famous immigration restrictionist

00:41:11 in American history, the person who gave speeches

00:41:13 like the ones whose snippets we just showed you,

00:41:15 the guy who made the case against

00:41:17 changing the country completely,

00:41:18 who made the case against illegal immigration.

00:41:22 The rapists are not sending their best.

00:41:24 That guy?

00:41:25 That guy has just said out loud that he was too mean.

00:41:30 This is the fruit of lower testosterone levels in old age.

00:41:34 You start listening to the liberal chicks in your orbit,

00:41:36 trying to please them instead of doing the right thing.

00:41:38 Oh, my liberal daughter.

00:41:41 One area in which Reagan and Trump have a lot in common,

00:41:44 both loved by neocons as well.

00:41:46 But in any case, that guy has just seeded the game.

00:41:53 He's just admitted that he's wrong.

00:41:55 He's just moved the marker.

00:41:56 Whatever the opposite of expanding the Overton window is, it's now the Overton poor hole.

00:42:01 He's basically said anybody who wants to enforce federal law is a baddie.

00:42:06 He's mean.

00:42:07 Really?

00:42:08 Does that apply to us, the rest of us?

00:42:11 Do we not have to follow federal law now?

00:42:13 Because if you think about it, not only is granting amnesty to millions and millions and millions, and by the way, what is the number?

00:42:20 Trump didn't suggest it, but by his own estimate, that could be 50 million people getting amnesty.

00:42:26 But whatever the number is, some huge population is being told in public, no, you don't have to follow federal law.

00:42:35 It doesn't apply to you.

00:42:36 You get a pass.

00:42:37 Like, that's forgotten.

00:42:38 Never mind now.

00:42:39 and that of course is discouraging to the rest of us who felt that we had some obligation legal

00:42:46 if no other to follow federal law you got to follow federal law it's the law kind of anglo

00:42:50 understanding of nations it's the law follow the law i believe in the law but at a certain point

00:42:57 it doesn't just discourage people and make them cynical it it provokes real questions like why am

00:43:02 i doing this why am i paying my taxes like why should i do that they don't have to why can't i

00:43:08 vape on airplanes. Seriously, why do I have to have a driver's license for that matter?

00:43:15 Because millions of people who are using fake social security cards and birth certificates

00:43:19 and passports and driver's licenses are all being told they don't, it doesn't matter.

00:43:24 No one's being penalized for it. In fact, they're being rewarded for it.

00:43:28 Everyone else around the world who wants to come here has to stand in line in some embassy and get

00:43:33 treated like garbage by a disinterested state department employee but these people just show

00:43:40 up here take federal benefits and they're rewarded for it so like what am i doing

00:43:45 there are states illinois for example you could be fined thousands of dollars for speeding

00:43:51 that was just a revenue raising technique same as cigarette taxes they don't actually care about

00:43:56 your safety they wouldn't be giving you the mrna shot if they did oh it's about raising money

00:44:00 while scolding you and you can sort of see what's going on but then the question is like why am i

00:44:05 participating in this so i get pulled over for speeding in the state of illinois and the corpulent

00:44:10 governor thinks he can stick me try to you know keep the state solvent on the backs of people who

00:44:15 are dumb enough to pay their speeding tickets but why should i be one of them actually if 50 million

00:44:21 people are just told they don't have to obey the law why do i you can see why things fall apart

00:44:24 really quickly. Because the system fundamentally is voluntary. There will never be enough law

00:44:31 enforcement or flock cameras to force everybody to follow every law. People follow the law because

00:44:36 they believe in the project. Things fall apart if you don't follow the law and other sort of

00:44:40 Anglo folktales that are no longer operative, I guess. But if you tell tens of millions of people

00:44:47 that they don't have to follow federal law, you should not be surprised when tens of millions

00:44:52 people who were born here decide they don't have to either. And then you have to deal with

00:44:56 the consequences of that and good luck. So this sets a precedent, not just to the rest of the

00:45:01 world that sees clearly coming to the US has no penalty and you get free healthcare at the

00:45:08 emergency room and free schools, but it sets a precedent for American citizens who feel like

00:45:16 I'd be an idiot to play along. And you do see, you see this already. Mass welfare fraud by

00:45:21 immigrants which is mass i mean it's real documented has changed the attitudes of a lot

00:45:27 of americans 40 years ago most americans self-respecting americans birthright americans

00:45:31 or whatever they're calling them now people born here not gonna take welfare unless they really

00:45:35 have to because it's shameful but you look around and there's a fake somali daycare center in

00:45:40 lewiston down the road the guy's making 30 million dollars and you know driving some expensive car

00:45:46 defrauding medicare or the state and you're like well i don't know why don't i apply for

00:45:52 veterans benefits why wouldn't i and so you can sort of see it's it's a race to the very bottom

00:45:59 and pretty soon everybody is in it for himself and no one is in it for the country and then you

00:46:07 really are at that point done and the sad thing is none of this was necessary it's not actually

00:46:14 that hard to get control of an illegal immigrant population in the United States. You don't have

00:46:20 to go shoot white girls, which is what the Trump administration did, shoot some protester. Oh,

00:46:26 she cut me off in traffic, shoot her. Behavior like that is basically designed to get you

00:46:31 the 60 Minutes interview you just saw on Sunday, where the president sees videotape of some

00:46:39 heavyset white girl getting shot to death at an immigration protest, and he's like,

00:46:42 this is too mean. You don't need to do that. In fact, you probably would only do that if you

00:46:47 wanted to turn people against deportation. The first thing you would obviously do is ban

00:46:52 remittances. There's no reason that people working here illegally should be able to take

00:46:57 U.S. dollars and send them outside the country. And yeah, a lot of them are good people, by the

00:47:02 way. This is sincere. I mean, they're working hard and sending money to their families back

00:47:06 in country X, and that's great. But why is it great for us? Of course, it's not great for us.

00:47:10 it's not good for us at all why is it these are people who clearly aren't invested in our system

00:47:16 who are just using it and by the way if they were working in their own countries ask anyone from one

00:47:21 of those countries from which there's been massive immigration has emigration from your country to

00:47:25 the u.s been good for you is it good when all the energetic people leave all the doctors leave

00:47:30 no it's not good at all so it hasn't been good for the rest of the world either despite the

00:47:34 screeching from the race mongers all of whom are like white and went to oberlin but in real life

00:47:39 that's not good. So you just shut down the remittances. That would do a lot. You could

00:47:43 also enforce the existing laws against carrying forged federal documents. What would happen if

00:47:50 you showed up at the airport with a fake passport or fake driver's license? Don't try it. You go

00:47:55 right to jail for that. But every person living here illegally and working here illegally is

00:48:01 using fake documents. There's been no effort to crack down on them. Why is that? Well, because

00:48:06 no one wants them deported. That's why. It's obvious. And maybe the most basic thing you

00:48:14 could do is if you're here illegally, if you're not allowed to be here, you're violating our law

00:48:18 in this country, you can't use any of our resources. You can't send your kids to the

00:48:24 school. I'm nothing against your kids. I'm sure they're great. It's not their fault that they're

00:48:27 here. But there are also American kids who would like to use that school and they're paying for it

00:48:31 and their ancestors built it. And if you flood a school of people who can't speak English,

00:48:35 the school collapses it's not a better school it's a much worse school and anyone who says

00:48:39 otherwise doesn't have kids that's true and the same is true for hospitals across the country

00:48:44 hospitals closing rural hospitals especially and that's a direct result of immigration

00:48:50 immigrants get sick like everyone else and they don't have insurance they show up in the emergency

00:48:56 room and you feel sorry for them of course it's nothing against them they're taking advantage of

00:49:00 a system that has been provided to them in an effort to destroy the country and it's working

00:49:03 of course but if you wanted to fix it you would say no of course you can't use a hospital at

00:49:10 public expense if you're not even here legally why would we do that but there's been no effort

00:49:16 to do that whatsoever because again they don't want to change it by the way you might debank

00:49:26 some of these people too keep in mind that over the past 10 years a lot of people who've complained

00:49:32 about immigration into the United States

00:49:34 have been debanked.

00:49:35 They've been told by their bank,

00:49:36 Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase,

00:49:38 we're not going to allow you

00:49:40 to bank with us anymore.

00:49:41 These are American citizens.

00:49:43 How many American banks have debanked

00:49:46 an illegal alien?

00:49:46 Probably none.

00:49:48 And there's certainly been no encouragement

00:49:50 from the Trump administration to do that.

00:49:52 So the whole thing is not real.

00:49:54 They never planned to do

00:49:56 what they promised you they were going to do.

00:49:57 They didn't build the wall.

00:49:59 They had opportunities to do that.

00:50:00 They spent the entire first term whining about how they couldn't do it, but they didn't really try.

00:50:06 And that's the truth.

00:50:08 And a lot of Trump supporters, me included, kind of ignored that and imagined that Trump had the best intentions.

00:50:16 But did he?

00:50:18 Well, he didn't try.

00:50:22 So we're going to get amnesty because the Republicans want it and the Democrats want it.

00:50:30 But what will it do to the country? And this is the thing to think about.

00:50:35 Mass migration always has profound effects. Sometimes you can make a case for economic

00:50:40 growth on the basis of it. Sometimes you can't. Always changes the culture. Always makes the

00:50:45 country less stable. It always makes it less unified. Always and everywhere. But you can,

00:50:52 as noted, sometimes justify it on the basis of labor shortages. Like we don't have enough people.

00:50:56 Like we're building all these new factories. Who's going to run them? We need people from

00:50:59 country X. Can you make that case now? You make the opposite case now. And in fact, the people

00:51:07 who are charting our future are thinking not about how to fill factories, but how to pay for

00:51:12 the upkeep of an unemployed population. They're thinking about UBI. They're thinking about

00:51:19 a nationwide welfare program because there won't be enough work thanks to AI and robotics.

00:51:25 so whether or not you consider that like great the promise of an endless vacation

00:51:31 everyone's on welfare awesome let's go to the beach or you consider that dystopian no matter

00:51:37 what side of that you're on you can't look at the picture that's been painted so clearly for us

00:51:42 of employment going forward like starting now and going into the foreseeable future you can't look

00:51:47 at that picture and say you know what we just need a lot more people in this country particularly

00:51:51 people with no skills who can't speak english who didn't graduate from high school you need a lot

00:51:54 more of those. And in case you know what we're talking about, here's the founder of Anthropic,

00:52:01 the AI company Anthropic, saying on television what his technology is going to do to employment

00:52:06 in the United States. You've said AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white-collar jobs

00:52:12 and spike unemployment to 10 to 20 percent in the next one to five years. Yes, that is the future

00:52:19 we could see if we don't become aware of this problem now. Half of all entry-level white-collar

00:52:25 jobs. Well, if we look at entry-level consultants, lawyers, financial professionals, you know, many

00:52:33 of kind of the white-collar service industries, a lot of what they do, you know, AI models are

00:52:39 already quite good at and without intervention. It's hard to imagine that there won't be some

00:52:44 significant job impact there. And my worry is that it'll be broad and it'll be faster than what

00:52:51 we've seen with previous technology. So we're going to have mass unemployment at or above the

00:52:59 scale of the Great Depression, which unleashed revolutionary movements within our borders,

00:53:03 by the way. Roosevelt, using a bunch of pretty clever strategies, kept it under control in the

00:53:08 country together, whatever you think of Roosevelt, basically put millions of young men to work at

00:53:13 five dollars a week for the w um with the ccc the civilian conservation corps but whatever

00:53:18 that was one of the most profoundly disruptive things ever to happen to the united states the

00:53:26 stock market crash of october of 1929 people still talk about it 100 years later and we're

00:53:31 going to have unemployment that is greater than that where it's not just farm workers out of

00:53:37 business, it's half of all entry-level white-collar jobs? So that's like the entire graduating class

00:53:45 of half of American universities will not have jobs. So it's into that recipe for revolution,

00:53:55 chaos, collapse, that you're going to bring tens of millions of low-skilled foreign workers,

00:54:01 because why? This isn't just a bad time to increase the population and to let in people

00:54:08 with no skills from poor countries. It is the worst possible time. What will they do?

00:54:16 No one knows, but they're pushing for it anyway. So that raises the question of why.

00:54:23 Who is behind this and what are their motives? Well, as far as we can tell, there are two

00:54:27 groups pushing for this the first are lobbyists and the second are neocons so to the first

00:54:33 lobbyists are people who represent business interests in washington and as we've learned

00:54:38 the hard way over the past 50 years but in exquisite detail in the last week

00:54:43 they're the only people are elected officials listen to people who pay them either in campaign

00:54:52 contributions in future jobs jobs for their friends and family maybe even in bribes can't

00:54:58 discount that possibility and so lobbyists from interests that employ people are putting

00:55:06 enormous pressure on this administration to increase immigration into the country we don't

00:55:12 have enough workers we don't have enough workers now in some cases they don't have enough workers

00:55:17 That is true. It is a tight labor market at the lower end, believe it or not. But one of the reasons is that mass immigration has removed any incentive from the ruling class of the country and the government that it administers, any sense of responsibility for the next generation of Americans, which is to say our schools collapse and nobody cares because you just import better educated people from Bangalore and you don't have to educate them.

00:55:41 kind of an arbitrage on the education

00:55:44 system of other countries. That's exactly what's

00:55:46 happened. Like, why should you care

00:55:48 about our people when you

00:55:50 can just import new people? So immigration

00:55:52 always

00:55:53 causes the withering

00:55:56 of the native-born population.

00:55:59 Like, as you import

00:56:00 more impressive people,

00:56:02 your population becomes

00:56:04 less impressive. That is just a fact

00:56:06 everywhere. You see it in the UK, you see

00:56:08 it here, you see it all through Europe,

00:56:09 australia new zealand and canada i mean the state-sponsored suicide program in canada the

00:56:17 maid program medical assistance in dying which has killed over a hundred thousand people it's

00:56:21 canada's answer to rising health care costs will just kill you no you can't get a new knee but

00:56:25 we do have a suicide shot for you the numbers came out last year on who exactly is getting that and

00:56:31 it's a hundred percent white native-born canadians they're the ones killing themselves no immigrants

00:56:35 in Canada are killing themselves, why would they? They see boundless opportunity. But that is the

00:56:40 nature of mass immigration. Not of all immigration, but when you turn over the population really

00:56:44 quickly, the existing population is literally replaced and surrenders and dies. It's always

00:56:49 true, every single time, and that's exactly what's happening here. So business interests, which have

00:56:54 sort of sat by and watched this happen, and who are short-term thinkers at their best,

00:57:00 are pushing for more immigration in exactly the moment when looking out three or four years you

00:57:06 don't want more immigration and among the people they are using to do this is the secretary of

00:57:12 homeland security mark wayne mullin the former senator from oklahoma now who is mark wayne mullin

00:57:16 mark wayne mullin is already himself kind of a loppiest mark wayne mullin to name one example

00:57:23 and i should just say parenthetically but emphatically one of the most corrupt politicians

00:57:28 we have. Mark Wayne Mullen is an investor in a Kratom company. Kratom, in case you're not aware

00:57:36 of it, is often called gas station heroin, and it's an addictive drug that kills people

00:57:40 that has still not been banned for some reason by the FDA. And lo and behold, we learn in the

00:57:45 New York Times that Mark Wayne Mullen is pressuring the FDA not to criticize or ban Kratom because

00:57:51 he is an investor in a Kratom company. So I guess the reason it's worth bringing that up is

00:57:58 anyone who would lobby the government while working for the government as a cabinet secretary

00:58:03 to keep kratom of all things legal will probably lobby for anything so who knows who got mark

00:58:11 wayne mullen one of the most corrupt people in the united states senate and now in the trump

00:58:16 administration to say the following but here he is on fox news the other day right after the loss

00:58:21 saying actually i think we need some amnesty watch it seems like every time republicans feel

00:58:25 like they're running into a rough spot they rush to some type of immigration deal with a party that

00:58:31 you yourself has said has no interest in lowering immigration legal immigration or enforcing the

00:58:38 laws as they exist so why would any idea be floated to work with the democrats on an issue

00:58:44 that is their holy grail as well well i think it depends on what you're talking about if they want

00:58:49 to talk about making people that enter this country here illegally legal that's a non-starter

00:58:54 if they want to talk about how do we reform amnesty and and how the the port of entries work

00:58:59 they want to talk about why does it flow daca mr secretary why is that the message for you guys

00:59:05 of this election i i mean daca has daca applies to children that were brought in this country

00:59:12 no fault of their own they were yes but they were brought here no fault of their own and some of

00:59:16 them may not even speak english or never even lived in their country i think there's there's a

00:59:21 a part that we could look to say listen you're not going to become citizens because you wasn't

00:59:25 born here but is there a path for you to be legal i know that's it's a very far-fetched because the

00:59:31 president tried to do this in 2016 the democrats weren't interested in doing it so but before we

00:59:36 even even consider doing any of that we're going to make sure that one our base is with us on it

00:59:41 they're not with it and so and if they're not with i'm just saying this and i'm going to tell

00:59:45 you it's for the children it's for it's for the children you can't have anonymity on the internet

00:59:51 because of the we're going to help the children we're going to save the children can't have a

00:59:54 firearm you know because the because the children we got to put russell brand in prison because the

00:59:59 children say the governments that you know are hiding the epstein files it's for the children

01:00:06 you have to have amnesty because of the children of course says mark wayne mullen of course so

01:00:13 clearly the calculation is here this is of short-term benefit to certain industries they're

01:00:19 lobbying the administration, you have to think, including Mark Wayne Mullen, the gas station

01:00:24 heroin guy. And so they're making their case on Fox News, but it's for the children. So it's

01:00:29 don't worry about it at all. We're just here for the children. We really, really care. Not about

01:00:33 American children, by the way, as they die in huge numbers of drug odies, as they use kratom.

01:00:39 Mark Wayne Mullen's kratom. But foreign-born children, because we care, because we're

01:00:43 compassionate people from oklahoma um so there's that there is the conventional business lobby

01:00:49 pushing for increased immigration to expand the labor pool and lower the price of labor as they

01:00:57 have been doing really since the country was founded we shouldn't be surprised there even

01:01:01 though two years out we'll have too much labor but by that point the costs of all those unemployed

01:01:06 people will be transferred to the taxpayer so it's not like mark wayne mullen and his kratom

01:01:10 company are going to be paying anyone's unemployment obviously they'll be supplying

01:01:15 more kratom to unemployed people so they'll forget that they're unemployed okay but there is another

01:01:22 lobby pushing for mass migration and demographic change and has been pushing for it for i don't

01:01:28 know at least 60 years it's a little less obvious why it's not exactly clear why the neocons people

01:01:36 who put the interests of a foreign nation

01:01:37 above the interests of the United States,

01:01:40 why would they be so anxious

01:01:42 to change the population of the U.S.?

01:01:45 Why would they be such stalwart defenders of amnesty?

01:01:48 If you, I don't know, got elected to the United States Senate

01:01:51 to serve the interests of Israel,

01:01:53 why does that mean necessarily

01:01:55 that you're for mass migration in the United States?

01:01:57 We don't know.

01:01:58 And it's not a standard that's universally applicable.

01:02:00 I mean, none of the people you're about to see

01:02:02 are calling for amnesty for the Palestinians,

01:02:04 giving them a pathway to citizenship despite the fact they've been there since the beginning of

01:02:09 history it's actually their land they didn't arrive as immigrants they were already there

01:02:13 when immigrants came in and took their country away but no one's talking about giving them

01:02:17 amnesty that's not on the table it only applies to people from poor countries who come to the

01:02:24 united states what is that so here's tape recent tape of two of the most fervent neocons in the

01:02:31 united states house of representatives that would be don bacon of nebraska and that would be a guy

01:02:37 called mike lawler who thank god just lost from new york but watch as they argue not as they

01:02:44 normally do for the united states to go send more of its young men to die in the middle east but to

01:02:51 open its borders even more than it already has here they are lawler and bacon most americans

01:02:56 agree with that. Where I think most Americans also agree is that if you have been in this country

01:03:03 5, 10, 15, 20 years, you've been working, you've not committed crimes, you have children or

01:03:12 grandchildren that are American citizens, we want a legal path forward, not citizenship, not amnesty,

01:03:19 but a legal process forward that those people can come out of the shadows and go through.

01:03:27 Without immigration, we have a 1.7 birth rate.

01:03:30 That means we have a declining workforce.

01:03:33 We have an aging workforce, less people working to pay for people on Social Security, Medicare.

01:03:38 You can't grow your companies.

01:03:40 I mean, you shouldn't be surprised.

01:03:42 if you're willing to send other people's children to go die for israel and syria or iraq or iran

01:03:51 some other faraway place that has no direct connection to life here in the united states

01:03:55 if you're willing to literally sacrifice the children of your own nation for your donors

01:03:59 then of course you don't care about why americans are having fewer kids and of course americans are

01:04:06 having fewer kids because they're discouraged about what the future looks like because of the

01:04:11 terrible leadership in this country people who've run a proud and rich nation into the ground

01:04:21 and they look at this they're like i don't want to have kids and by the way a lot of them feel

01:04:24 they can't afford to have kids so if you're really concerned about declining birth rates in the

01:04:29 united states you would i don't know try to make housing more affordable or do something about the

01:04:35 tens of millions of working age men in this country who aren't working and whose whose lives

01:04:40 are not captured by the unemployment data

01:04:42 because they're not even trying to get a job.

01:04:43 What about them?

01:04:45 But no one's trying to do that.

01:04:48 No one's trying to make college worth the cost.

01:04:51 No one is trying to lower the price

01:04:53 of single family housing.

01:04:54 No, not multifamily.

01:04:56 You're living in some tenement

01:04:57 that politicians can control,

01:04:59 but like a normal house.

01:05:01 No one's doing that.

01:05:02 No one cares.

01:05:04 And so after creating the conditions

01:05:05 where Americans can't reproduce,

01:05:07 they have the balls to lecture you

01:05:10 about, oh, you need more people from some foreign country because there aren't enough of us.

01:05:14 But what about us? That's never a consideration. It's the glee with which they demand that we

01:05:20 further change this country that makes you wonder, like, what is this? And there are really no two

01:05:27 people who embody this worldview, exactly, is it? Maybe not a worldview. It's more like

01:05:36 latent hostility suddenly becoming obvious what you're watching is not people who are indifferent

01:05:42 actually you're watching people who are hostile to the united states who don't like the country

01:05:49 as it was don't like the people who live here don't like the customs of the country

01:05:52 don't like america and you're watching those same people lecture you about how you don't like

01:06:02 america if you're not willing to make it totally unrecognizable from the country you grew up in

01:06:06 so we just checked because we thought it'd be interesting so sunday night trump does this

01:06:13 interview with roth douth it on cbs 60 minutes pretty interesting interview actually and in it

01:06:20 he just blithely announces yeah i'm for amnesty after spending his entire political career 10

01:06:25 years arguing against amnesty now he's for it days after his party loses kind of a big story

01:06:30 and so we checked the two most patriotic pro-america people we can think of on the internet

01:06:38 people are constantly accusing other people of being insufficiently patriotic are controlled

01:06:43 by a foreign adversary taking talking points from putin or the ayatollahs people who are

01:06:51 very quick to call you inadequate as an american people who are conservative who are fox news who

01:06:57 are representing the bedrock values of this nation and people like that you would expect

01:07:03 would be a little bit surprised if not horrified to see the president of the united states whip

01:07:07 around after 10 years of making one case and make the opposite case in fact the core liberal case

01:07:12 and we're speaking of course of super patriots mark levin and ben shapiro and so we're sort of

01:07:19 interested like what have they said on twitter which is their metier where they express their

01:07:24 deep thoughts both lawyers handy with a word and so we expected long essays about with respect

01:07:33 Mr. President you ran against this most people don't want this there's no economic justification

01:07:38 for it and in fact you could really wreck the country even more than your predecessors like

01:07:42 Ronald Reagan already have so maybe no and just say it in a nice way to lay it out how would you

01:07:49 possibly give amnesty to millions of people on the verge of the AI and robotics revolution

01:07:53 tell us but that's not what we found what we found in both cases was

01:08:00 post after post after post about israel and lakud and iran and what's happening at the other end of

01:08:08 the earth which is by the way itself an argument against mass migration because when you let in

01:08:17 the rest of the world into your country by definition you import not just the people

01:08:21 but ancient feuds those come too and maybe that's why the i don't know pick a race michigan senate

01:08:28 race last week was dominated not by questions of what we're going to do for the people of michigan

01:08:32 but by the oldest blood feud of all muslim versus joe in the middle east what side are you on

01:08:40 how about neither one like who cares actually maybe we talk about michigan for a second no

01:08:46 where are you in Hamas

01:08:48 in Islamic Jihad

01:08:49 Bibi

01:08:49 Arab Israeli

01:08:51 how'd that conflict come here

01:08:53 mass migration

01:08:54 so that's kind of

01:08:58 what you wind up with

01:08:59 and

01:08:59 Mark Levin and Shapiro

01:09:01 are perfect examples of this

01:09:03 as the president

01:09:05 of the United States

01:09:06 who they claim

01:09:06 they are very close to

01:09:07 key advisors to

01:09:08 announces

01:09:09 that he's going to

01:09:11 sell out his country

01:09:11 even more profoundly

01:09:12 than he did when he

01:09:13 attacked Iran

01:09:14 they say absolutely

01:09:16 nothing well not nothing actually Shapiro said nothing but Mark Levin was on a roll and you may

01:09:21 have seen this last night he dropped the news because he's not simply a Fox News host and an

01:09:28 eminent radio show host and obviously a man of the law a constitutional scholar a best-selling author

01:09:35 you know he's also a man of technology he's kind of he's an older man but he's got an eye toward

01:09:44 the future. He knows where this is going. And so he released a quite lengthy tweet aimed not at the

01:09:50 American people or even the government of Iran or even his friend Benjamin Netanyahu, but at the,

01:09:54 presumably there's still people who work there, the management of America Online,

01:09:58 which is an internet company based in Northern Virginia that at one point people used for email.

01:10:06 And I guess Mark Levin couldn't get into his AOL. Pushing 70 and he just could not get into his

01:10:12 aol account and because he couldn't he couldn't write yet another tweet calling some american

01:10:20 and islamist and glazing benjamin netanyahu so he was outraged by that last night he signed off by

01:10:26 saying i can't get into my aol account and i'm notifying the appropriate authorities well this

01:10:32 morning around 11 30 the mystery was solved i'm going to read this to you because this is an

01:10:36 actual tweet now keep in mind this is mark levin's almost the totality of his non-israel related

01:10:44 output in the last week and you'll notice amnesty not mentioned and we're quoting we all know the

01:10:51 iranian regime is a great fan of tucker carlson's america hating videos which air from time to time

01:10:57 on their government-run propaganda platforms in my case the iranian regime has a much different

01:11:02 approach my wife and i were warned yesterday by the appropriate federal agency that we might be

01:11:08 targeted by the iranian regime specifically by a possible cyber attack well that appears to have

01:11:14 occurred that said my brilliant staff staff is working around it and this boomer will not be

01:11:19 intimidated or silenced to the great chagrin of the woke reich neo-fascists so it turns out

01:11:26 that when a nearly 70 year old man who hasn't left his rec room probably since the second

01:11:33 reagan term since amnesty was signed can't get into his aol account what you're looking at ladies

01:11:38 and gentlemen is not ineptitude or creeping senility no it's an islamist cyber attack

01:11:46 launched by the islamic republic of iran against america's greatest patriot mark levin who somehow

01:11:52 never mentioned the fact that his president is about to usher in amnesty so why do we tell you

01:12:01 this because when you don't acknowledge something like what trump said on sunday

01:12:07 you're doing it for a reason and that's because you endorse it and make no mistake at all

01:12:14 the people who would like to change the population of gaza would very much like to change the

01:12:20 population of the United States. And they are. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. We'll

01:12:27 see you next Wednesday at six o'clock Eastern.

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The Tucker Carlson Show - November 12, 2026

Trump Admits Mass Deportations and Building the Wall Was All a Total Scam. Tucker Responds.

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