The Tucker Carlson Show - Trump Ushers in 300,000 Tons of Foreign Mystery Meat and Sends American Farmers Into Bankruptcy

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00:00:30.000 Joe Maxwell thank you so much for doing this the president has announced that we're going to be

00:00:40.320 importing a lot of beef from Argentina a huge amount of beef from Argentina and in his justification

00:00:48.180 for this he did not mention beef prices in the United States he said we're doing this because

00:00:51.780 Argentina's in trouble and we're trying to help Argentina so I think this was very confusing for

00:00:56.520 a lot of people watching. What do you think is going on here? Well, you're absolutely right.

00:01:02.140 The president's actually made two announcements about importing beef from Argentina.

00:01:06.740 The first time, which was quite a shock to all of us out here in rural America, was

00:01:12.420 that he was going to quadruple the amount of beef coming in the United States. And his basis was

00:01:18.520 that the people of Argentina was struggling to survive. And he liked the president. Most recently,

00:01:26.520 He has announced another 330,000 metric tons, of which he's purchased 80,000 metric tons from Argentina again.

00:01:38.800 And so we're beginning to really dig into that and take a look at what is the real motivation.

00:01:45.960 It clearly isn't in our, we know for a fact, it's not America's farmers and ranchers.

00:01:51.060 We're seeing the cattle market go down right after we just started making a profit.

00:01:56.520 and we don't see the results in the grocery store, consumers still can't afford their food.

00:02:02.060 So I think, I mean, there are a lot of potential motives here. One is geopolitical. The president

00:02:06.700 of Argentina is a close ally of the prime minister of Israel, unlike President Maduro,

00:02:11.980 who was an opponent of, right? So that's certainly a factor in this. There may be others. What would

00:02:17.960 the others be? Yeah. Well, first, you know, I respect the geopolitical landscape, but we have

00:02:27.340 to put America first. Farmers and ranchers, 63 farmers a day are going out of business while

00:02:35.160 people can't afford their groceries. There is a serious problem in rural America. Farmers and

00:02:41.940 ranchers are in crisis, not unlike what the president described of those folks in Argentina.

00:02:49.140 So I respect that those folks may be struggling to survive, but so are America's farmers and

00:02:55.020 ranchers. So I just want to make that point, Tucker, that, you know, you got to balance that

00:02:59.740 and we don't see that happening in the White House. What are some of the others?

00:03:02.860 Let me ask you to pause. Why, for those of us not in the business, why is there a crisis in

00:03:08.380 ranching, if meat prices are at an all-time high, when oil prices go up, the oil companies thrive,

00:03:13.760 but meat prices have gone up and ranchers are going out of business. What is the problem,

00:03:17.920 do you think? Well, you mentioned oil companies. Our gas prices in my little town just went up

00:03:24.420 again, crude oil's down, gas is up, makes no sense. But the reason is, is those companies,

00:03:30.820 a handful of companies, control the oil from the wellhead, well, actually from under the ground

00:03:36.660 all the way to the gas pump. With cattle and much of what farmers and ranchers raise,

00:03:45.040 we're price takers. We don't set the price. We have to pay our inputs, whatever we're told by

00:03:53.100 a handful of companies, the price is. Then we hold up what we raise and say, how much will another

00:04:00.080 handful of companies give us for it? There are four companies that control 85% of all the cattle

00:04:06.200 in the United States. Two of them are Brazilian. And we have to ask them, how much will you give me

00:04:12.260 for that? So when we see prices in the grocery store go up, there's not a correlation that

00:04:20.400 America's farmers and ranchers are going to receive a greater benefit from that price.

00:04:26.080 Because in the middle, it's so heavily concentrated between the meat packers and the retail

00:04:33.300 grocery big box stores control 69% of all the groceries in the United States.

00:04:42.920 So that concentration between the farmer and the consumer can cause the consumer to be price

00:04:50.280 gouged on price and the farmer to be short paid for what the real value of their goods are in this

00:04:57.380 case beef that doesn't sound like an efficient efficient market that's not the capitalism i was

00:05:03.580 promised well tucker i have an ag economics degree i don't hold myself up as an economist but

00:05:10.920 um it doesn't take a rocket scientist or a professor at my old econ class to to understand

00:05:18.320 that capitalism doesn't work um if it doesn't have the restraint of competition right right

00:05:24.540 That's one of the base fundamentals. Now, a lot of us have been trying to get both Democrats and

00:05:30.340 Republicans have brought us to this horrible stage where a handful of companies can have so

00:05:35.820 much influence over Congress and the Oval Office. And the fact is that when we try to do something

00:05:43.820 to force antitrust enforcement or try to put new laws in place to modernize those,

00:05:51.240 Many of those were passed in the early 1900s or late 1800s.

00:05:56.340 People scream, you know, the free market, folks who want to wrap themselves in the free market, which I pull myself out for the free market.

00:06:04.760 They want to call me a socialist because I want to implement the fundamentals and make sure they're in place, like the restraint of competition in our capitalist system.

00:06:17.580 Otherwise, a handful of people get all the wealth.

00:06:20.140 we launched the Rural Independence Initiative to try to have these kind of conversations.

00:06:29.640 It's been both major parties have gotten us in this position.

00:06:33.800 Started with Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton put it on steroids.

00:06:37.760 And what we now see is this restraint in the market where new companies can't even enter the market.

00:06:45.140 We can't even get new competition.

00:06:46.740 And entrepreneurship is almost dead in most sectors in America.

00:06:52.420 And so we say free market.

00:06:57.320 And you said capitalist.

00:06:59.540 I'm a capitalist.

00:07:00.440 I've owned companies, businesses, I own a farm.

00:07:04.740 But capitalism doesn't work unless we allow competition.

00:07:10.900 And both parties have eroded competition to where there isn't any.

00:07:16.920 Four companies control, I'll give you an idea on egg prices when avian flu came out.

00:07:23.900 Eggs are a staple, so I hope most of the viewers get this.

00:07:27.840 So your eggs went up 300% in the grocery store.

00:07:31.980 The largest egg producer in the United States, Cal Maine's profits went up tenfold.

00:07:38.420 The avian flu was serious.

00:07:41.460 Animals died.

00:07:42.120 But the fact is, they only lost about 6% to 7% of the flock.

00:07:48.960 So they screamed avian flu, which gave them an excuse to hike up prices, gouge the consumer,

00:07:57.540 rake in billions of dollars.

00:07:59.800 One company made more money in a quarter than it made the whole year before.

00:08:04.480 And why?

00:08:06.360 Why? Because USDA, this is kind of telling, Tucker, USDA economists came out and said, well,

00:08:13.800 we see prices are way far above what they ought to be based upon the facts. We expect other people

00:08:19.640 to come in and in the emerging market or in this market and lower the price eggs. And four months

00:08:26.660 later, the report came and said, we're not sure why nobody came in. But no one did because the

00:08:32.800 concentration is so heavy, you can't get into the market. With four companies controlling retail

00:08:37.980 groceries, with their sweetheart deals with the big four producers of any food item, you can't

00:08:43.800 get in. And it allows those companies to gouge the consumer and short pay the farmer, and they reap

00:08:51.580 all the money. They've extracted the wealth out of rural America. We've launched the Rural

00:08:57.620 independence initiative to put aside party politics, strip yourself of party identity,

00:09:02.920 let's roll up our sleeves and let's work together and let's understand that capitalism does not work

00:09:08.000 without the constraint, restraint of competition. Well, I would think you'd have the overwhelming

00:09:15.500 majority of the public on your side with that initiative. We sure hope so. We just launched,

00:09:21.060 cross-party effort. When we make an endorsement of a candidate, we don't tell the public if it's

00:09:31.060 a D or an R or an I. You know, it should be the person, right? It ought to be that they stand up

00:09:38.380 against this power, this influence in Washington, D.C. They're willing to go toe-to-toe. We endorsed

00:09:43.720 Congressman Massey. Now, we didn't win that. We worked hard. Others did too. So did Congressman.

00:09:49.920 But we're endorsing candidates that will go toe to toe with this power and not bend to the influence in Washington, D.C.

00:10:00.240 This beef deal is really about the White House and to some degree members of Congress bending to the influence of this monopolistic oligarchy power and the influence that they have when they get market share market power.

00:10:18.600 They therefore get economic power. I talked about eggs gouging the consumers. They make billions of dollars. Then they invest that in lobbyists and campaign contributions in order to stay in that power.

00:10:31.000 And so what happens is that that influence then, the Batista family can just walk into the Oval Office.

00:10:40.240 That's the owners of the world's largest meatpacker is JBS, owned by one family from Brazil.

00:10:48.700 And they can walk into the Oval Office and have a sit down.

00:10:53.500 They can negotiate between the president of Brazil and the president of the United States.

00:10:58.080 So those two can get together.

00:11:01.000 That's the power these companies and corporations and folks now have

00:11:06.080 and the influence they have, not only over our government, but other governments.

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00:12:18.700 So how do you think this specific deal came to pass?

00:12:23.440 I think we mentioned the geopolitical climate.

00:12:27.540 Yes.

00:12:28.620 There's no doubt with the first deal last October, November, quadrupling the import, importation of beef from Argentina was because of an election in Argentina.

00:12:42.340 And it wasn't looking good for an ally of the president, someone he considers a friend.

00:12:47.960 I'm not an expert on geopolitics. I won't say it was good to have him reelected or not. I just

00:12:55.200 don't know. But I do know that that's a fact. And therefore, we quadrupled the importation to

00:13:02.780 raise and secure the economic future. Also, we gave 20 billion taxpayer money to Argentina,

00:13:11.500 And we put together a banking deal with other financers of about $20 billion plus this beef deal.

00:13:24.060 But the other thing is just the influence of JBS.

00:13:29.120 JBS has plants in Argentina.

00:13:32.600 It's the influence of these large corporations.

00:13:38.180 I'll give you how does it work.

00:13:41.500 JBS is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world, and they have confessed to bribing up to 1,800 politicians in Brazil in order to get an increase in value of their shares to borrow billions to invest in the United States in the meat market.

00:14:07.180 And they bought beef, pork, and chicken.

00:14:12.120 So they are a protein company.

00:14:16.520 And they, in that, so the president is looking for money for his inaugural committee, Pilgrim's Pride, which is JBS's poultry division,

00:14:29.100 gave $5 million to the Trump inaugural committee.

00:14:39.180 And for years, JBS had been trying to get on the stock exchange

00:14:44.220 to get publicly listed in the United States.

00:14:48.880 And shortly thereafter, they got that.

00:14:53.200 Shortly thereafter, Josli Batista, one of the, there's two of them, Wesley and his brother, met with the president.

00:15:03.860 And it's reported that they talked about beef prices and Brazilian tariffs.

00:15:11.300 They have been, had strong relationships with the president in his prior first term.

00:15:17.980 um the uh we had a bailout money to try to help america's farmers and ranchers that i helped work

00:15:27.340 on um the trump one administration moved over 60 million dollars of that bailout for america's

00:15:35.280 farmers to jbs to help bail them out there was a guy the name of al amanza in 2017 under the first

00:15:45.000 term um you can look this up this is fact as it's been reported and as as the investigations

00:15:53.160 police investigations have indicated um the brazilian police uh started uh an investigation

00:16:02.440 called uh weak meat and they believe that inspectors were being bribed to let tainted

00:16:10.040 rotted meat, abscessed meat, out of Brazil, millions of pounds. And they discovered it was

00:16:18.300 so. And they notified the world that there's a bunch of bad meat on the market, beef market.

00:16:25.580 China, Chile, other countries within three days closed their ports to Brazilian beef.

00:16:32.300 uh again jbs is a major beef producer in um and we're tied into this investigation

00:16:41.620 along with a couple of other meat companies and it took the u.s 97 days

00:16:47.840 to close its border to brazilian beef 97 days i always suspected never did the research it took

00:16:58.300 about 97 days to bring in millions of pounds of rotten meat and we were the only country that

00:17:03.500 didn't close our border so there has been favored status oh the kicker here tucker do you know where

00:17:12.480 al almanza now works no he they i laugh it's this bad this is the kind of influence these

00:17:22.700 big multinational companies have over our government.

00:17:27.820 He got a job, JBSSA,

00:17:31.240 that's their South American main company,

00:17:34.220 their main company.

00:17:35.580 He got a job, they created it

00:17:38.040 as the head of global food safety.

00:17:45.160 It's undisclosed how much they pay him,

00:17:48.600 but he left USDA where he was the interim

00:17:52.500 FSIS, and that's the Food Safety Inspection Services for the United States of America,

00:17:58.040 that runs the inspections to let meat in or not in to this country. And he turned around and went

00:18:04.820 to work for the very people that had been caught, along with others in Brazil, other companies in

00:18:10.960 Brazil, trying to move millions of pounds. And he left our borders open for 97 days in 2017.

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00:20:35.900 How is that legal?

00:20:37.560 How can a U.S. government regulator leave his job and then work for the industry that he regulated?

00:20:46.920 Why do we allow that?

00:20:48.620 I don't know why we allow that, Tucker.

00:20:50.900 Maybe you and I need to get together a few other folks that have similar views and go after both parties until they stop doing that.

00:21:00.060 We call it the revolving door.

00:21:02.080 um it's it's uh very um serious um it is the real it's just one component of the influence

00:21:16.680 that these big companies have they can walk into the oval office they can walk into any

00:21:22.500 u.s senator member congress office um unfortunately in our opinion uh based upon farm policy

00:21:31.940 the majority of D's and R's support what they want, not what America's farmers want.

00:21:39.640 And the other influence they have is come time for appointments, they line up their people

00:21:45.360 from the industry to get jobs within the administration and are deep seated then

00:21:52.000 into the regulatory agencies. So they're in the beginning, they're appointed and they're

00:21:58.220 regulating themselves, you know, because they've got one of their folks inside. And then after

00:22:05.840 that administration leaves, the door goes the other way. They go back home. They're kind of

00:22:12.560 like guaranteed a job. They usually get, I think, I'm not sure, but I'm sure they get a star or two

00:22:17.620 to put on the refrigerator like we do at home when the kids do well and pat it on the back,

00:22:22.700 And that is the amount of influence. That's what happens when we fight for a free market and we fail to put the safeguards in place. It's what we get when we're distracted by so many issues that they throw at us that we, all of us, lose sight of the real issues.

00:22:45.100 And that is protecting our economy, protecting our rural communities, protecting the people.

00:22:50.600 And instead, we start thinking it's more serious if we aren't protecting JBS's future or something like that.

00:22:57.480 And, you know, I often joked that, you know, it didn't matter which presidential candidate won, D or R, because, you know, it was just a matter of which Goldman Sachs executive was going to be the head of Treasury back in the day.

00:23:16.840 That's what I would say. And if you look, that's kind of how it worked.

00:23:20.580 There really wasn't a distinction between the parties for about 40 years as it relates.

00:23:25.860 But they fight over things and then they let their billionaires and their monopolistic corporations, you know, rob all of us, rob the consumer at the grocery store.

00:23:39.820 They short pay the farmer.

00:23:43.320 These big meat companies have been accused and have settled.

00:23:47.500 They didn't admit they did it.

00:23:48.780 but have been accused of price-fixing wages.

00:23:53.420 There was something called the Agristat system,

00:23:57.140 and they shared data so they could depress wages

00:24:01.900 so it's not just farmers and ranchers.

00:24:04.520 It's also the workers that get short paid.

00:24:08.180 So that's the unfortunate state that we're in,

00:24:12.760 and people are angry.

00:24:15.400 Out here in rural America, we're angry.

00:24:17.740 We're angry over this beef deal. We're angry that many thought things were getting better.

00:24:25.900 We were starting to make a profit. And then the president takes this course of action and

00:24:31.980 plummets our market. And we know that our neighbors at the grocery store going in the

00:24:36.340 grocery store are not, well, we oftentimes go in the grocery store, right? So even ourselves,

00:24:40.900 we're not going to see that see that benefit and based upon the record that I've described

00:24:47.740 Tucker of tainted meats and inspections and you know you got to wonder know that the global beef

00:24:56.640 supply is short this year compared to last year why so globally there's less beef I don't know

00:25:06.820 all the reasons, some of which are, most are weather related. It's also been price related.

00:25:16.300 Farmers around the world have been underpaid for, and so if you're going to get underpaid,

00:25:20.860 you're not going to do much of it anymore. So you start selling off your herd. So weather,

00:25:25.680 short pay to farmers. And so the global supply today is less than last year.

00:25:34.520 okay so in 90 days the president of the united states is saying we're going to bring in to this

00:25:43.620 country 700 and over 750 million pounds of beef now this order for beef wasn't anticipated

00:25:53.200 it wasn't laying out there in the world's global beef supply

00:25:57.160 it's a seller's market today right I mean if if if if you have goods and it's in short supply

00:26:07.000 then why are you going to discount it 25 percent the president claims well I bought it for 25

00:26:16.000 below the market well who in the world is going to sell something that's in shorter supply this

00:26:25.500 year than last year at a discount unless it's something they can't sell to anybody else

00:26:32.480 it has to make us ask where are you buying this and what the world is it

00:26:37.480 somebody is getting a benefit i i don't have who but based on past track records

00:26:48.280 I'd say follow the money

00:26:51.700 is what I try to say

00:26:53.060 we as people need to ask

00:26:55.500 who gets the benefit from this

00:26:57.480 it's not the farmer

00:26:59.480 or rancher

00:27:01.340 cattle producer

00:27:02.160 it doesn't appear it's going to be the consumer

00:27:05.200 so who

00:27:07.040 it's somebody

00:27:09.600 we're buying it from and it's going to sell

00:27:11.640 something they can't sell anywhere else

00:27:13.640 and they're going to sell it in this country

00:27:15.320 it's not just a stockpile of beef nobody wanted because we're in

00:27:22.800 we're in a decline on supply of beef in this world and demand is up it's a it's a seller's

00:27:29.800 market right now so so many questions i mean you're aware that global central planners have

00:27:38.900 for some time said out loud people eat too much beef we need to reduce consumption of beef

00:27:44.880 they're not hiding it you know famously the world economic forum has had a bunch of different

00:27:52.340 panels on this exact topic do you see a connection between that ideology whatever it is and the

00:27:59.820 decline in global beef supply yeah i don't think that they had to leverage their plans

00:28:05.900 i think mother nature has leveraged a lot of the plans and this concentration in the meat market

00:28:14.300 I do believe it's evidence that those plans or those meetings occurred and those conversations occurred.

00:28:21.580 But what I mean, we've the Western United States, as well as other areas in the world, have faced droughts.

00:28:30.360 We're facing extreme weather patterns that we've not faced before that caused costs to go up.

00:28:39.000 and prices didn't go up because of the concentration.

00:28:44.540 Four companies control the meat market.

00:28:47.540 Four companies, 85%.

00:28:49.840 Two of them are Brazilian.

00:28:53.140 This is in beef.

00:28:54.880 Pork, four companies control 68% to 70%.

00:28:58.320 Chicken, about 68%.

00:29:00.180 So it's everywhere.

00:29:01.580 And a lot of the same companies control all three proteins.

00:29:05.280 But so I think it's a product more of the concept, and these companies are global, you know, U.S. Tyson, Cargill.

00:29:18.140 It's not just Brazilian. JBS Brazilian is the largest meat protein company in the world.

00:29:27.160 And they just have been short paying farmers all over the world.

00:29:31.580 There's riots, the protests going on everywhere from India to, you know, Europe by farmers.

00:29:39.120 And so that's what I think really has put most of the strain on the market.

00:29:47.560 There's no doubt certain regulations and other things have impacted the profitability.

00:29:54.920 So I don't want to take away from that.

00:29:56.580 But the bigger fact has just been the constraints put on by Mother Nature and a market that's relentlessly controlled.

00:30:07.220 So you describe shrinking supply, rising demand, and then a president who says, somehow I found this huge cache of beef at below market prices and I'm going to send it to the United States.

00:30:18.880 and you made the point i don't know where this is coming from but logic suggests it's unsellable

00:30:26.580 meat and we're getting stuck with it so that raises the question i think i'm fairly characterizing

00:30:30.900 what you said like are how are we sure that this is fit for human consumption like what's the track

00:30:36.960 record of here i want to make yeah well the track record's not good i gave you the yeah 2017 uh 97 0.73

00:30:45.240 seven days to close the border to tainted and abscess meat when China, for God's sakes,

00:30:50.540 three days shut down their border to it. I mean, we're always comparing ourselves to China and 0.96

00:30:56.640 somehow they got it, the message and the memo a lot quicker than Al did. But 0.96

00:31:03.600 I think that one of the most tragic issues, this goes to a part of your question, but

00:31:14.600 I think what's so important is to recognize is the United States does not have mandatory country of origin labeling on beef and pork.

00:31:25.300 This case is beef.

00:31:27.100 I can tell you where this shirt I have on, the one you have on, comes from and was made.

00:31:33.120 I can buy a dog treat and tell me what country it was made in.

00:31:37.500 When you go to the grocery store, it doesn't tell you where it comes from.

00:31:40.780 so this meet is because we don't have mandatory country of origin labeling now Senator Thune

00:31:46.860 Republican leader of the U.S. Senate has a bill the American Beef Labeling Act and

00:31:53.000 and in a bipartisan vote that they were voted into the farm bill a few Thursdays ago before

00:31:59.440 they broke the farm bill didn't get through but it was a bipartisan effort which was very

00:32:05.620 encouraging, but it's very, this story is very tragic. I absolutely believe that this has got

00:32:13.360 to be me. Somebody could, they're not going to discount in a seller's market. I'm a business

00:32:18.120 person. Shoot. You know, if something's in short supply, I'm not going to say, oh, I'll give you 0.99

00:32:24.040 25% off because I don't have enough of it. Right. So that's just not logical. So it has to be

00:32:31.880 something they couldn't move somewhere else. And the track record is, is that, and the president's

00:32:38.880 not saying where he's getting it. That lack of transparency is one concern. And America's people

00:32:44.880 won't know if it showed up in their grocery store or not. It's a lot of beef. We throw these numbers

00:32:52.680 around. I'll try to put it into kind of perspective. On the average last year, the, I'll get this

00:33:01.200 The average pounds of beef imported into the United States per month last year was 447 million pounds.

00:33:15.180 That's average all year.

00:33:18.840 The president is going to bring this meat in in 90 days.

00:33:22.880 it is over 750 million pounds of meat

00:33:35.580 in 90 days that would be 250 million pounds a month more

00:33:41.140 that's over 50% increase per month

00:33:43.820 of what the average was last year of being imported

00:33:48.680 it's a lot of beef

00:33:51.140 so when we're saying you know it's not so every all the viewers need to understand there's not

00:33:58.560 it's that much meat it's not just laying around as you said tucker i mean it's just not laying

00:34:03.800 around it's too big of a pile of beef and it's a new order it's not like it was in the pipeline

00:34:11.000 so american consumers aren't going to know where their beef comes from because we don't have

00:34:18.040 mandatory country of origin labeling, and everyone viewing this ought to call their U.S. senator

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00:37:42.180 justification for opposing labeling country of origin? Like, I don't understand that.

00:37:47.880 Yeah. Well, the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, one of the largest trade and

00:37:57.780 lobbying organizations, its members are 5% or so of U.S. cattle producers, but it also

00:38:08.700 has members that are the big packers. NCBA represents itself as the voice of America's

00:38:16.260 cattle producers. The Packers and the NCBA pushed hard to not have country of origin labeling. We

00:38:30.780 had it up until 2015. And then it got tied up into a dispute with the WTO after Mexico and

00:38:37.800 Canada sued the United States in the tribunal. And there was going to be a penalty placed on

00:38:44.780 the U.S. for a restraint in trade, and the Congress got nervous and repealed it 2015

00:38:51.180 under the Obama administration. So these groups say it's going to cost too much money. It's going

00:39:02.240 to raise prices. That's the fear tactic that they use to try to get to Congress. Everybody's worried

00:39:08.020 about affordability right now. We were talking about that on beef prices, fuel prices. I'll

00:39:12.880 mention fertilizer in a minute, but the reality is the truth, the politics behind it is that

00:39:20.980 we just talked about it. These four companies that control 85% of the beef in the United States

00:39:29.300 are international. They're importing and exporting beef all over the world.

00:39:36.240 They export U.S. beef and import Brazilian beef.

00:39:41.800 I mean, the same company, moving it all around the world.

00:39:46.720 They know that the American people, and public surveys have proven this,

00:39:53.620 will pay the American farmer more money.

00:39:55.760 They feel and understand it's a safer product

00:39:58.920 because there's been so many problems in the imported world.

00:40:03.540 And they'll pay more.

00:40:06.240 And these companies don't want to lose their ability to co-mingle, to mix this extra.

00:40:17.360 We're not talking about a chunk of steak or a roast, right?

00:40:22.860 We're talking about some grind or emulsified product.

00:40:27.540 And they bring that into the United States and they throw it in a vat, you know, a million pounds of hamburger,

00:40:34.700 and they stir it all up and they don't want to list and track all the countries that that

00:40:40.920 stuff came from that they threw in that vat oh come on no it's so repulsive well i'm just telling 0.94

00:40:49.240 having trouble hearing this that's disgusting and tucker i have trouble as an american farmer

00:40:54.940 believing we've allowed the food system to get to such a state that that's what we're feeding the

00:40:59.280 people, right? It's a dang disgrace. But that's the reality of where we are. They have so much

00:41:06.940 influence that they are able to keep mandatory country of origin labeling off. Now, I commend

00:41:14.160 Senator Thune. He's the leader of the U.S. Senate. He is from a great state that raises cattle.

00:41:23.160 It didn't go to his head when he became a national leader. He stayed focused on a priority back home,

00:41:28.200 And he delivered a great vote along with the Democrats. Hats off to them, too, for voting for a Republican amendment.

00:41:38.780 And they're fighting hard, but they're up against the wall.

00:41:42.480 And every viewer should call their member of the Senate and a member of the House and the White House and demand,

00:41:49.240 And with the president bringing in 330,000 metric tons, which equals over 750 million pounds of beef, which is over 50% increase per month, that's the amount that's going to be in the grocery store.

00:42:06.340 We deserve to know where it came from.

00:42:08.720 Tell us on the label before we buy it.

00:42:12.160 Yes.

00:42:13.020 Yes. So I have read, I have no idea if it's what's true, which is why I'm glad you're here,

00:42:20.140 but that China had banned beef imports from Argentina on the basis of hormones or chemicals

00:42:29.200 in the meat that they believed were dangerous. Is that true?

00:42:32.300 Yes. And you hear the way I talk, and I can't pronounce the word. It's an antibiotic.

00:42:43.020 So I apologize to the listeners and viewers.

00:42:45.760 But anyway, it's an antibiotic.

00:42:47.780 And if I would attempt to pronounce that, I would only further embarrass myself.

00:42:52.000 But anyway, there is.

00:42:54.900 Okay, so there's a very potent antibiotic that is used for humans when we are extremely

00:43:04.240 serious and other antibiotics have failed.

00:43:07.640 The reason it's rarely used is because it stays, its residue, the antibiotic stays in the muscle tissue for very long extended periods of time.

00:43:19.840 It has been banned.

00:43:22.440 Its use in livestock has been banned in Argentina, the U.S., China, Canada, many countries to be used in livestock

00:43:34.540 because we all worry what we eat.

00:43:38.400 And if it's got just a little bit of antibiotics in it, right?

00:43:41.800 Maybe you don't, maybe the listeners don't know.

00:43:43.760 So one of the reasons overuse of antibiotics

00:43:48.360 in production of livestock is a real problem

00:43:51.500 is because this residue stays,

00:43:53.780 which is really just the antibiotic stays.

00:43:56.320 You eat it.

00:43:58.460 And so you have a little bit of antibiotics in you.

00:44:01.540 Well, the bug or germ that you might have

00:44:03.740 that your body is fighting, gets a little sick,

00:44:06.720 but it's not enough antibiotics to kill it.

00:44:08.920 That little germ or virus, it mutates

00:44:13.080 and becomes resistant to the antibiotic,

00:44:17.980 creating antibiotic-resistant disease and illnesses.

00:44:24.160 So that's why this one stays in the muscle tissue

00:44:27.320 for a very long extended time.

00:44:30.120 I don't want to use the word toxic.

00:44:31.700 If you're sick and you need this antibiotic, it's not toxic to your body, right?

00:44:35.940 It's a good thing.

00:44:38.000 You know, you've got malaria.

00:44:40.260 I think it's used in malaria and some other things.

00:44:42.500 So, but not in livestock because they don't want, the folks that are banned at the country

00:44:47.480 don't want us to have just a little bit of it because one day we may need it.

00:44:50.780 And if our body and that virus or whatever has become resistant to it, then it no longer

00:44:57.080 works.

00:44:57.460 and we lose that great tool, that great antibiotic

00:45:00.680 that's kind of a last resort antibody.

00:45:03.840 So, however, Argentina,

00:45:08.920 and we've already talked about South American countries

00:45:11.680 and tainted beef earlier.

00:45:15.580 Argentina, somebody over there is using it

00:45:18.880 in the production of their cattle.

00:45:21.340 Note that we just brought in 80,000 metric tons,

00:45:24.820 which is about a little over 17 million pounds.

00:45:27.460 and China caught it.

00:45:31.120 And they said, we're not taking this.

00:45:33.300 This antibiotic that we detected in this meat

00:45:36.380 is banned from the use of livestock here.

00:45:39.720 We're not going to take meat from another country

00:45:42.620 that allows that to be used.

00:45:45.340 And they rejected it.

00:45:48.880 So I cannot remember.

00:45:53.360 I apologize, Tucker.

00:45:54.520 It was a small poundage, but they didn't test everything.

00:45:57.160 They just rejected the whole thing.

00:45:59.680 So a few days later this week, the president has announced one of the first places he's

00:46:07.680 going for his 330,000 metric tons of beef is Argentina.

00:46:13.780 The first deal he struck was for 80,000 metric tons of the 330,000 will come from Argentina.

00:46:20.660 I have no evidence, nor am I trying to make over accusations, but it does scare the heck out of me that if we're talking about 750 million pounds of beef, and it's not just laying around somewhere, somebody's trying to peddle something they can't sell elsewhere, we know Argentina has some beef they need to sell, and it's a 25% discount.

00:46:50.120 So we should be asking to make sure this administration beats back up the people that they let go,

00:46:57.280 get them back in FSIS, and get them on the front line.

00:47:01.380 And we need to be testing to make sure that Argentina beef doesn't have that residue in it that China found.

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00:49:14.040 Is it possible to buy an all-American hamburger in the United States?

00:49:20.260 It is.

00:49:21.320 How?

00:49:23.700 I thank you all from Maine.

00:49:26.600 Is that right?

00:49:27.080 Yeah.

00:49:28.180 I'll get you in touch with some good farmers there.

00:49:31.180 No, I mean, to go for sure.

00:49:33.320 And, you know, obviously, I'm not worried about meat prices.

00:49:38.960 I'm blessed in that way.

00:49:40.220 so yeah we we american beef in my house period um yeah okay and we get right the normal the

00:49:47.060 regular consumer that perhaps uh is too far removed from the farm to be able to do that

00:49:52.080 there are a few companies one i filed uh so many years ago uh i filed the first complaint with usda

00:50:01.740 uh okay i don't want people to get confused right now the country does not have mandatory

00:50:07.800 country of origin labeling. That's where the government says you've got to put the label in

00:50:12.580 your shirt, dog treats, and also on that beef. The problem is they don't do it on the beef now.

00:50:19.460 And it should be mandatory. But what was even more egregious, or as egregious, was that companies

00:50:27.720 were able to put on the label of processed meat, as well as meat products in the meat case,

00:50:37.800 Product of the USA. That term. This was changed. This was allowed beginning in George W. Bush's administration. It was done by the administration. Every president since then had let it go along.

00:50:57.360 I filed a complaint with USDA against that.

00:51:03.040 And towards the end of the Biden administration, they ruled in our favor.

00:51:10.240 And it was like a decade fight.

00:51:12.720 American Grass-Fed Association, there was a lot of us.

00:51:15.380 I happened to be the guy that wrote the complaint.

00:51:17.400 But Angela Huffman, president of Farm Action, was a big part of it.

00:51:20.900 I don't want to leave anybody out.

00:51:22.040 It wasn't just me.

00:51:22.940 I don't want to overstate it.

00:51:27.360 Biden agreed, and now that meat, if a company is going to voluntarily use, not mandate,

00:51:34.540 but if they're going to choose how the goodness of their little hearts to put product of the USA

00:51:40.860 on meat product, it has to be born, raised, slaughtered, and processed in the United States

00:51:53.680 of America. That is now the standard for that label. It's voluntary. The Trump administration,

00:52:04.020 while it threw out a lot of things that the Biden administration did over at USDA that we opposed

00:52:09.520 on Packers and Stockyards Act rules, one thing they did keep was that rule and have really

00:52:20.600 marketed it and worked to get it out into the world, out into the marketplace. So if you go

00:52:30.360 to your grocery store, not saying you can find it, but companies can now, if they are just

00:52:37.340 buying beef, cattle, slaughtering them, cattle that was born in the U.S., not those that come

00:52:46.460 over from the borders, cattle born in the U.S., raised in the U.S., slaughtered in the U.S.,

00:52:53.160 and processed in the U.S., they can now, that label now has meaning. And you should look for

00:52:58.660 that label. And you should encourage your grocery to get that meat and use that label. FSIS is the

00:53:07.900 one that does the labeling. And that is their rule now. And it was put in by a Democrat

00:53:14.380 administration and maintained by a Republican administration, which is always good in our view,

00:53:20.660 because that usually says, OK, we won that one. You know, you can make a ground with one

00:53:26.620 party and then the other party comes in and just because the politics, Tucker, and I know you know

00:53:33.820 this, you live it and have for years. But, you know, it's just crazy. We identify more as a party

00:53:41.640 in America than we do as the people of America. And just because the other party wanted to do

00:53:47.600 something, we naturally think it's bad. This Maha movement, which I work with and we work with

00:53:54.120 many of the Maha leaders is an example, but that's what they should look for. It is available now.

00:54:00.620 Not many companies are using it, but you can encourage your grocer, your restaurant to get

00:54:09.860 that label get the companies that are doing that they're usually your regional local meat packers

00:54:15.680 that are seeking that label to differentiate themselves against the JBSs in the meat case

00:54:20.460 or the Tysons and the others and it's good for that local processor that regional processor

00:54:26.380 it helps the farmer and the rancher and you're guaranteed now in America that you're eating

00:54:34.000 something from america and you're actually benefiting uh the american farmer the the beef

00:54:41.540 that the president's going to import from argentina and maybe other places what would

00:54:47.400 that be used for like what percentage will go into ground beef and processed meat products

00:54:52.080 as opposed to intact meat products like steak it's my understanding the the president has

00:54:59.180 announced that within two weeks of his announcement that he is going to have an executive order to

00:55:04.960 further define what this is. From the original reporting, his statements, some of it on social

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00:55:26.700 as I indicated, like a roast or the steak, KC or T-bone or any of those, it will be the grind

00:55:38.640 for what we would call in farm country, the grind off the cattle. What I will tell you in

00:55:46.660 these plants. Well, what is going on today is that the United States raises prime good stock cattle.

00:56:03.820 But sometimes it's too lean. They want to sell 80% hamburger, 80-20, or 73% lean

00:56:15.740 27% fat

00:56:17.760 of course

00:56:19.060 so they'll bring in

00:56:22.160 emulsified fat 0.95

00:56:24.320 from foreign

00:56:26.640 countries

00:56:27.120 I'm sorry

00:56:30.160 emulsified lean

00:56:32.000 from foreign countries to add

00:56:34.520 to our fat coming off of our prime 0.51

00:56:36.440 cattle because prime means

00:56:38.260 marbling more fat

00:56:40.580 so the US raises a lot 0.60

00:56:42.560 of fat it needs lean

00:56:44.520 to make the 73% or the 80% or 90%.

00:56:48.740 To balance that out, you go and look at hamburger,

00:56:51.360 it'll be some percent lean, some percent fat.

00:56:54.340 And the American people don't know,

00:56:59.160 but a lot of that is mixed. 0.96

00:57:00.520 And so I suspect they're bringing in lean trimmings

00:57:04.400 to mix with U.S. fat as much as anything,

00:57:09.440 as well as some of the emulsified out of the plants,

00:57:13.520 uh the come the tailings what does emulsified mean in this context and what's a tailing

00:57:19.680 okay i call them tailings i i have worked in uh in meat processing plants and

00:57:27.500 um maybe that's not a good term it's what's left on the table after the day's done

00:57:34.820 kind of you know it's uh uh you're sitting there and you're somebody standing there trimming

00:57:42.420 and so it's they pick it up whatever like they're trimming it down the fats off of

00:57:48.940 off the brisket or something they put it over into a hopper and the

00:57:57.200 meat companies here many several decades ago started running that through a like you make

00:58:07.800 a hot dog a hot dog is emulsified it goes through this machine so it's not chunks anymore it becomes

00:58:14.600 it's blended with fat it becomes uh like a slurry yeah kind of like a stiff slurry

00:58:21.400 but emulsifier blends it all up cuts it up so that there's not any chunks or anything so it's

00:58:28.820 not like a polish sausage where you can find a chunk of pork every now and then it's like uh

00:58:33.980 like a hot dog that, that it's just, you know, it's,

00:58:38.420 you ever look at the hot dog, it's just, you know, it's, it's been emulsified.

00:58:44.080 Did your time heavily, heavily, finely ground, I guess is a way to.

00:58:50.040 Just a personal question.

00:58:51.560 Did your time working in a processing plant make you more or less excited

00:58:55.320 about hot dogs?

00:58:57.780 I love a good hot dog.

00:58:59.400 I do too.

00:59:00.880 I do too.

00:59:01.800 I don't know if you can deter me from that,

00:59:03.440 but you're coming close well i will tell you a good beef hot dog made in a good plant is a good

00:59:11.200 hot dog i it's it's it's the ability you know you get bad meat at you know

00:59:19.320 i don't know where 330 000 metric tons of beef's coming from it's not coming from a good solid u.s

00:59:29.920 plant. In beef, I can't remember the statistic, but over 70% or thereabouts of those workforces

00:59:38.480 are trained union shops with the UFCW. The workers are high level trained. We have inspections in

00:59:49.740 our plants, but overseas, that's not necessarily the case in foreign countries. I'm not necessarily

00:59:58.660 run down the road to eat a hot dog from brazil argentina or uruguay or someone else but if it's

01:00:06.780 a good american hot dog fourth of july on the grill

01:00:11.320 i'm trying to deter anybody i'm with you joe maxwell i can't think of anyone who could have

01:00:19.960 explained it as well as you just did and i'm grateful for that thank you very much for doing

01:00:23.620 this no thank you for having us on tucker and thank you for the thank you for the work that you

01:00:28.120 do uh we appreciate you and many folks out there now that are really getting to the bottom of

01:00:33.960 what's going on and we appreciate that oh thank you i try and i know thank you

The Tucker Carlson Show - August 31, 2026

Trump Ushers in 300,000 Tons of Foreign Mystery Meat and Sends American Farmers Into Bankruptcy

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