The Tucker Carlson Show - April 23, 2026


Tucker Responds to Israel’s Attacks on Jesus Christ & the American Christian Leaders Supporting It


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An Israeli soldier uses a sledgehammer to smash the face of a statue of Jesus in a country that is supposed to be a safe haven for Christians in the Middle East. Why would an Israeli soldier want to smash a statue filled with explosives?

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00:00:00.760 On Sunday, one of the weirdest images of recent times, and there are a lot of weird images,
00:00:06.260 appeared on the internet.
00:00:08.240 We put it up on the screen.
00:00:09.680 It appeared to show an Israeli soldier, an IDF soldier, using a sledgehammer to smash
00:00:15.740 the face of a statue of Jesus.
00:00:21.480 Now, when people first saw this, we don't have a poll on it or anything, but we can
00:00:27.820 imagine very few thought it was real. For one thing, social media is famously full of manufactured
00:00:34.020 images created for who knows what purpose, mostly political, using AI. They're not real.
00:00:41.160 And this one seemed especially fake because it was supposedly shot in Lebanon.
00:00:49.200 And there was a war going on in Lebanon, and this is an Israeli soldier. Now,
00:00:53.700 we know a couple of things. One, what's happening in Lebanon is critical to the security of the 0.95
00:00:59.900 state of Israel. And we know that because Israel is also partnered with the United States in a
00:01:05.780 war against Iran, which is critical to its national security. Of course, taking out the famed 1.00
00:01:11.080 Iranian nuclear program is essential for the existence of the state of Israel. 0.97
00:01:15.380 That's why the United States joined in this war. But in the middle of that, 0.72
00:01:20.820 Israel had to take time out to invade southern Lebanon not just invade but according to its
00:01:27.840 own defense minister take over settle expel the people and create a permanent security zone in
00:01:34.120 southern Lebanon below the river now it had to have been pretty pressing for them to want to
00:01:41.840 do something like this because they had a lot else going on and it was pressing Hezbollah or as
00:01:49.980 It is often known on American television, Hezbollah, kind of the key of pronunciations.
00:01:55.600 People who know what they're talking about call him Hezbollah.
00:01:58.060 Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed terror militia, had been attacking Israel,
00:02:02.300 northern Israel from southern Lebanon, and Israel just had no choice 0.98
00:02:05.980 but to go in and kill the terrorists.
00:02:10.880 So in the face of that kind of threat, you had to ask yourself, looking at this picture, 0.71
00:02:14.080 How would an IDF soldier have the time to take a sledgehammer to smash the face of Jesus when he's defending his own country against terror?
00:02:24.220 And so then you had to assume, well, obviously, he knows something that we don't know.
00:02:27.860 This so-called statue of Jesus was probably some kind of terror weapon. 0.82
00:02:33.760 It was the Hezbollah equivalent of an exploding pager. 0.95
00:02:36.960 There were probably C4 charges inside the head of that Jesus statue.
00:02:42.240 And the IDF soldier, a member of the world's most professional ethical army, was just diffusing what could have been incredibly dangerous to the children of Israel. 0.69
00:02:50.460 So this was basically yet another necessary step taken in defense of Israel's right to exist. 0.50
00:02:58.140 But then you had to ask yourself, wait a second. 0.52
00:03:02.220 Why would a soldier smash a statue filled with explosives?
00:03:10.100 That doesn't make any sense.
00:03:12.240 Clearly, he didn't think the thing was going to explode or he wouldn't be hitting with
00:03:14.660 a sledgehammer, sledgehammer that you paid for as an American taxpayer wearing a uniform.
00:03:19.240 You paid for everything that soldier has in his possession.
00:03:24.100 You paid for because the entire IDF is paid for by the United States taxpayer.
00:03:31.460 So then you think, well, this just can't be real.
00:03:34.120 And of course, that's what they told you right off the bat.
00:03:36.820 This is not real.
00:03:37.920 This is just more terror propaganda.
00:03:39.660 The state of Israel, it's many agents in the United States, in our media, on our social media told you, don't believe it, that's fake, it's AI.
00:03:49.000 But very quickly it emerged, no, this actually was real.
00:03:54.400 And that raised a whole new set of questions, beginning with, why would an Israeli soldier want to smash the face of Jesus?
00:04:04.880 This is a country, we're often told, that is a safe haven for Christians in the region.
00:04:10.060 In fact, it's the only country in the Middle East where Christians feel safe.
00:04:14.780 Obviously, that's why there's so many happy Christians in Israel and in the territories Israel controls.
00:04:20.940 Well, before any of those questions could be answered, the Israeli media jumped in with their concerns.
00:04:26.740 Having confirmed it was real, here was the first response from Israeli media.
00:04:32.000 Watch.
00:04:32.280 This does not look good at all for the Israelis, and it's going to be circulating online in the U.S. as well. 0.53
00:04:41.940 We know who will take advantage of this.
00:04:44.860 IRGC accounts already talk about this, post it everywhere. 0.87
00:04:48.540 Definitely Hezbollah-affiliated accounts.
00:04:50.800 And this is, again, another incident that is going to make a lot of bad portraying of the IDF.
00:05:00.340 Did you hear that?
00:05:01.880 The problem with an IDF soldier
00:05:03.800 smashing the face of Jesus
00:05:05.120 is not that he smashed the face of Jesus.
00:05:06.900 The problem is that he got caught on camera.
00:05:09.840 And in fact, it turns out,
00:05:11.220 not only did the guy who did it get punished, punished,
00:05:13.880 but so did the guy who filmed it.
00:05:17.000 Because exposing what the IDF does
00:05:19.140 to the rest of the world is the real crime.
00:05:20.680 And you just heard the news presenter say that. 0.78
00:05:24.620 This is already on Hezbollah-controlled accounts.
00:05:27.300 The IRGC is making a lot of this.
00:05:29.220 What you don't hear is any examination of why it happened in the first place.
00:05:33.900 Why would an Israeli soldier want to do this?
00:05:36.820 What does it reflect of the attitudes of the Israeli military and of Israel itself toward
00:05:41.640 Christianity?
00:05:43.020 That's never addressed.
00:05:44.900 All that matters is how the rest of the world perceives it, and specifically American evangelical
00:05:50.040 Christians who were the last bulwark of support for Israel in the last country on the globe
00:05:54.440 that supports Israel with money, which would be the United States.
00:05:59.220 So the problem from the Israeli perspective is not that it happened.
00:06:02.440 The problem is that American evangelicals might find out about it.
00:06:05.500 But thank heaven, there is a major American evangelical news outlet completely devoted
00:06:10.920 to the protection, support, and promotion of the state of Israel, and it's called CBN,
00:06:15.740 Christian Broadcasting News.
00:06:17.660 And here was their take on the smashing of the face of Jesus.
00:06:21.620 This is not a good look, A. Let's start there.
00:06:25.120 I mean, it's disturbing and it feeds into narratives that people have been creating
00:06:30.260 around Israel that may not be accurate, right?
00:06:33.460 And that's the problem.
00:06:34.860 You have people saying things about Israel and the way that Israelis and the government
00:06:39.900 is allegedly treating Christians and other religious groups.
00:06:43.380 And then you see an image like that and it's very easy to assume, oh, look, all of those 0.87
00:06:47.760 people who are spewing conspiracy theories or other ideas, they may be telling the truth.
00:06:51.880 But what we have to be careful of, and I think we've seen this a lot in American culture, in cancel culture, we've seen it in countless examples of assuming, particularly actually when you look at police officers in this country, right, that one act is somehow emblematic of how every police officer acts.
00:07:11.340 It's the same thing here. One act that one soldier does is somehow emblematic in people's minds of what every IDF soldier is doing. Well, there's no evidence that that is the case, right?
00:07:21.880 So we have to be really careful as Christians
00:07:24.200 and as human beings,
00:07:25.640 as human beings and then as Christians in particular,
00:07:27.960 to not assume that there's a widespread problem
00:07:31.620 simply because we're seeing one photo of it.
00:07:35.340 Did you hear that?
00:07:36.940 Okay.
00:07:37.580 So that's the message to American evangelicals,
00:07:40.100 carefully crafted, no question.
00:07:41.940 And the message is this,
00:07:43.400 not only does this not tell you anything
00:07:47.100 about attitudes in Israel toward Christians or Christianity,
00:07:51.260 assuming that it does makes you a liberal engaged in cancel culture it's a lot like attacking white
00:07:58.960 cops after the george floyd hoax it means you're part of the problem as christians we need to be
00:08:04.360 very careful not to jump to conclusions you'll notice however that there's no effort to ask the
00:08:11.380 most basic of all questions which is how did this happen and what's going to happen to the guy who
00:08:16.560 did it. If this happened in the United States or any other country, what would happen? If, for
00:08:23.720 example, an American soldier broke into a synagogue in this or any other country and, say, burned the
00:08:32.940 sacred Torah scrolls, would people be getting up on TV and say, let's not jump to conclusions here?
00:08:39.460 It doesn't mean there's a problem. We don't have to ask why he did it. We're just going to let
00:08:44.000 his commanding officer figure out some kind of punishment, and it's fine. And by the way,
00:08:50.300 you're engaging in cancel culture if you want to know more. Well, of course, that would not be
00:08:54.460 the reaction. If an American soldier broke into a synagogue and burned a Torah scroll,
00:09:01.280 he would be severely punished, severely and rightly punished. You can't desecrate other 0.54
00:09:07.840 people's religious symbols. That is totally wrong, and people who do it should be punished.
00:09:14.000 that would be the biggest story in the world.
00:09:18.340 And the administration's anti-Semitism task force
00:09:21.460 would spend the next three years
00:09:23.860 pushing Congress to pass new laws
00:09:25.780 to protect terrified congregants from guys like that. 1.00
00:09:29.920 But in this case, Christians,
00:09:32.560 whose Messiah was mocked,
00:09:36.980 a statue of Jesus was just smashed
00:09:38.760 with a sledgehammer they paid for,
00:09:40.160 they are told, no, no, no, this means nothing
00:09:43.160 and you're a bad person if you think it does.
00:09:46.280 And by the way, that was probably enough
00:09:47.740 for a lot of CBN viewers.
00:09:50.240 It's not a problem.
00:09:51.720 Don't think about it.
00:09:53.100 Thinking about it, asking questions about it,
00:09:55.000 that's the crime.
00:09:57.260 And so viewers of whatever that just was,
00:10:00.720 propaganda like that,
00:10:02.180 can be forgiven for believing
00:10:04.640 that that was an isolated incident,
00:10:06.620 but it's the opposite of an isolated incident.
00:10:08.620 In fact, it's a very common occurrence
00:10:10.540 where the Israeli military desecrates 0.90
00:10:13.100 Christian religious symbols and churches and kills Christians. These are not accidents.
00:10:19.220 This adds up to, well, what the SPLC might call a troubling pattern. But in fact, more than a
00:10:27.440 troubling pattern, it's very close to a policy. And we know that because of indisputable facts
00:10:33.560 of behavior in recent years. So, for example, October 7th, 2023, Hamas launches an attack
00:10:46.400 on southern Israel, famously kills a bunch of civilians. It's bad. Everyone says it's bad.
00:10:54.700 And almost immediately, the government of Israel moves into level Gaza, from which these attacks
00:11:01.080 came. Now, in Gaza is a small but long-standing Christian community. I've lived there since
00:11:08.560 Jesus, and they were killed too. Christian churches were bombed intentionally multiple
00:11:17.720 times in Gaza. Christian parishioners were murdered by the IDF in Gaza. A mother and
00:11:26.320 daughter were shot to death by an Israeli sniper in a churchyard in Gaza. And the reaction in the
00:11:33.620 United States, well, there wasn't any reaction in the United States. In every single case, Israel, 0.99
00:11:38.620 in order, denied it happened. Then when confronted with proof that it happened because dead people
00:11:45.740 are pretty easy to verify because they're dead, said, oh, it was an accident. We'll look into it.
00:11:54.700 who was punished? Nobody. In no case was anybody punished for blowing up churches and murdering
00:12:02.020 Christians in Gaza. At one point, an Israeli tank fired an artillery shell into a cross on top of
00:12:10.340 a Christian church in Gaza, as if it couldn't get clearer what the point of this was. The point was 0.99
00:12:15.600 to take down the cross because the cross is so offensive, apparently. And that's the point at
00:12:20.980 which Christians in the United States, 0.97
00:12:22.300 again, who are paying for this,
00:12:23.700 who are the last remaining supporters,
00:12:26.400 the last remaining large group of supporters
00:12:28.420 of the Israeli military in the United States
00:12:31.080 and critical to continued funding
00:12:33.940 for the state of Israel,
00:12:34.980 should have asked themselves,
00:12:36.360 could these all be accidents?
00:12:38.660 The country with the most sophisticated munitions
00:12:41.280 on the planet is accidentally bombing churches
00:12:44.740 and not just once, but again and again.
00:12:48.320 Does snipers really make mistakes like that?
00:12:50.240 shooting a mother and a daughter in a churchyard? Could that been a mistake?
00:12:54.300 What's going on here? And of course, if they'd asked, nobody did. And those who did were
00:12:59.080 immediately denounced as terror supporters. But anyone who asked would have found the truth,
00:13:06.460 which is these are consistent with attitudes toward Christians in Israel, not by all Israelis,
00:13:13.360 of course, not by every government minister in Israel, of course, but by a lot of them.
00:13:18.240 the loathing of Christianity is absolutely real.
00:13:22.680 How do we know that?
00:13:23.700 Well, here's one example.
00:13:41.660 That was 2024 in Lebanon.
00:13:45.520 Yes, that was an Israeli tank. 0.97
00:13:48.240 going out of its way, taking a break from hunting down Hezbollah
00:13:53.460 to bulldoze a Christian statue of St. George slaying the dragon
00:13:58.840 in the country with the last remaining significant Christian population
00:14:04.620 in the Middle East, Lebanon, a country with a Christian present,
00:14:07.160 a historically Christian country. 0.99
00:14:08.620 And so you roll into this country because Hezbollah, 0.98
00:14:12.760 and the first thing you do is knock down Christian iconography? 0.98
00:14:18.240 crush a statue? What was the statue doing wrong? Existing. How could this happen?
00:14:24.580 Well, because for some Israelis, a significant number of Israelis, Christian iconography is
00:14:30.100 considered deeply offensive. In fact, the most offensive. So offensive that in some Israeli
00:14:35.260 religious schools, the plus sign is not used in math. The plus sign, you know, that connotes
00:14:41.740 addition. Why? Because it looks like a cross. And that's considered too offensive for the eyes of
00:14:49.360 schoolchildren, and so an inverted T is used. That's a fact. You can look it up. There's only
00:14:54.400 one other instance we've seen of this in the world, and that's in ISIS-run madrasas, where
00:15:00.420 the cross was also considered offensive. This is not true in any normal Muslim country. 0.98
00:15:06.500 They use plus signs, but not in Israeli religious schools. 1.00
00:15:13.500 So everybody is allowed to have their own religious views and to find other people's 0.83
00:15:19.200 symbols repugnant, but it might be useful for Christians in the United States to know
00:15:24.540 what they are funding and making excuses for. 0.92
00:15:27.300 But of course, they don't know this because this information somehow hasn't reached them.
00:15:32.500 And if they're watching CBN, they're told, don't pay attention.
00:15:35.540 you must be liberal if you're drawing conclusions. But that's not the only example. There are many
00:15:43.140 examples of Israeli soldiers going out of their way to mock and desecrate Christian symbols and
00:15:49.980 churches and to hurt individual Christians. And just keep in mind, within the context of the
00:15:55.340 Middle East, Christians are non-aligned. You can't call a Christian an Islamist because they're not.
00:16:01.860 they're not Islamic, they're Christians. And they follow a religion that does not endorse war,
00:16:08.500 just the opposite. And so you would think that if you're the Israeli government, the last people you
00:16:14.080 would ever want to bother, irritate our Christian Arabs, because they could potentially be on your 0.94
00:16:20.500 side. And yet poll after poll of Christian Arabs shows the main threat that they perceive to 0.98
00:16:27.540 themselves and their families is not the Arab Muslims who live next door to them, but the
00:16:32.940 Israeli government and the settlers in the West Bank that the Israeli government protects. 0.99
00:16:38.700 That's the threat to them. 0.98
00:16:39.680 Now, if anyone in the United States and say a church or if Franklin Graham or some other 0.99
00:16:44.340 American Christian leader were to just pick up the phone and call them and ask, what are
00:16:49.060 your problems?
00:16:49.540 How can we help?
00:16:51.020 They would learn that.
00:16:52.940 And they might be able to help, by the way.
00:16:55.380 This is one of those problems
00:16:57.060 that Americans could actually solve.
00:16:59.120 There are lots of problems around the world
00:17:00.360 and it's hard to know what to do about them.
00:17:03.060 But if you're an American evangelical leader
00:17:05.000 and there is persecution of Christians underway
00:17:07.100 by the Israeli government,
00:17:08.420 that's actually something that you can fix.
00:17:10.420 How?
00:17:10.900 By calling your congressman.
00:17:12.520 The only reason the United States
00:17:14.280 on a bipartisan basis
00:17:16.520 has sent billions and billions and billions of dollars
00:17:19.900 to the Israeli government 0.96
00:17:20.700 is because Christian Zionists support it.
00:17:23.860 and not just their leaders,
00:17:25.920 whatever is going on with them,
00:17:27.580 but their congregants,
00:17:29.920 normal, nice people
00:17:30.800 who have no idea what the truth is. 0.78
00:17:32.580 And they support Israel 0.71
00:17:33.640 because they believe God commanded them to
00:17:35.140 and they believe that Israel is on their side.
00:17:38.540 So if they were to speak up,
00:17:40.240 if they were to gather information
00:17:41.480 about what is actually happening in this place,
00:17:43.820 they call the Holy Land
00:17:44.760 and then call their member of Congress
00:17:46.600 and say, I cannot support this.
00:17:48.200 I am not going to stand by
00:17:49.920 as you send my tax dollars
00:17:51.500 to a government that persecutes Christians.
00:17:52.940 That might have an effect, like an immediate effect.
00:17:56.000 Call Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House. 0.77
00:17:58.360 He's a Christian. 0.94
00:17:59.560 He'll tell you. 0.82
00:18:01.700 Call Mike Johnson and ask, Mike Johnson, why in the world would you ever appropriate money 0.92
00:18:06.000 to a government that is murdering Christians? 0.98
00:18:10.820 That might actually get us somewhere.
00:18:13.580 That might actually relieve some of the harassment of Christians in Israel and the territories
00:18:19.040 it controls.
00:18:20.600 And that harassment is real.
00:18:22.940 There was a study last year by a Jewish-Israeli group, which, God bless them, keeps track of 0.94
00:18:28.960 assaults on Christians in Jerusalem, that found in 2025, there were 61 physical assaults against 0.92
00:18:37.460 Christians, mostly against Christian clergy, in Jerusalem. Physical assaults. It is so common for
00:18:45.020 Christian priests to be spit on and roughed up, to have their churches urinated on or defaced 0.99
00:18:50.080 by radical religious Israelis 0.99
00:18:53.420 that ask any Christian clergyman
00:18:57.160 who is in Jerusalem.
00:18:59.300 Some of them are afraid to go outside. 1.00
00:19:03.480 That is a fact that Christians should understand. 0.93
00:19:07.660 They should ask themselves,
00:19:09.300 where is this hate coming from?
00:19:11.400 And why has it been hidden from us?
00:19:14.000 Here's another tape from Southern Lebanon,
00:19:16.300 also from 2024.
00:19:18.380 These are Israeli soldiers inside a church
00:19:20.780 mocking Christian rights, 0.87
00:19:23.060 holding a kind of black mass. 1.00
00:19:24.400 This is real. 1.00
00:19:25.000 Watch this.
00:19:30.980 Oh, the great Mary.
00:19:47.400 Thank you.
00:19:53.400 What's your name?
00:19:55.400 What's your name?
00:19:57.400 What's your name?
00:19:59.400 I'm your name.
00:20:05.400 Come here.
00:20:07.400 Come here.
00:20:09.400 I'm working!
00:20:11.400 I'm working!
00:20:13.400 I'm working!
00:20:15.400 that's inside a church that not only did that they filmed it and then posted it because they 0.76
00:20:38.240 were proud of it because no one told them not to be try doing that in a synagogue don't do that
00:20:43.200 in a synagogue. It would be completely immoral to do that in a synagogue, to desecrate someone
00:20:47.000 else's sacred space. That is wrong. Christians believe that is wrong. But imagine what would
00:20:53.040 happen to you if you did do that, if you tried to do that. How long would you be free? How long
00:20:58.920 would it take before you were arrested, before you were the most famous person on planet Earth?
00:21:02.880 Not very long. We don't know the names of any of those soldiers because no one was ever punished.
00:21:07.160 Nobody cared in this country or in Israel. The only people who cared were the Arab 1.00
00:21:12.980 Christians whose church was desecrated by soldiers. And no one came to their rescue and no one came to
00:21:21.920 their defense. Think about that for a minute. Think about that. American Christians need to
00:21:30.280 reassess their support for Israel. And they need to do it on a number of different grounds. But
00:21:37.640 The very first one is the most obvious one.
00:21:41.040 Can you support a country that allows that kind of behavior,
00:21:47.580 that has a lot of people who hate what you believe in
00:21:51.960 and hate you for believing it, and that's demonstrable,
00:21:55.740 and that has used your tax dollars to blow up Christian churches 0.99
00:22:00.920 and shoot Christian clergy, 0.99
00:22:03.180 a country in which Christian clergy are spit on 1.00
00:22:07.640 as they walk outside?
00:22:12.920 And then once you start asking those questions,
00:22:15.740 then it becomes really obvious that all of this,
00:22:19.820 leaving aside the theology,
00:22:21.760 is it theologically tenable?
00:22:23.920 Does it make sense from a Christian perspective 0.90
00:22:26.060 that Christians would have this commandment
00:22:30.040 from God himself to form a political alliance
00:22:32.660 with a totally secular government of another religion?
00:22:35.160 Does that make sense?
00:22:36.140 that's the second order conversation but the first order conversation is how could you ever
00:22:42.060 support a government that mocks your values as aggressively as the government of israel does
00:22:49.380 that provides free abortion on demand to the entire population using your tax dollars
00:22:54.300 oh they're not your tax dollars right the united states gives so much money to israel
00:22:59.680 that its basic needs are met.
00:23:03.260 And so it can use the surplus
00:23:05.200 on incredibly generous social programs
00:23:07.620 we don't have here.
00:23:08.340 And it can use some of it 1.00
00:23:09.200 to provide abortion 0.99
00:23:10.320 for anyone who wants one. 1.00
00:23:12.780 But it can also spend
00:23:14.180 a great deal of money
00:23:15.120 promoting a pride parade,
00:23:16.700 which they are now doing.
00:23:18.140 Now, from a Christian perspective,
00:23:19.880 pride is, of course, 0.95
00:23:21.000 the first of the seven deadly sins.
00:23:22.920 You're not allowed to have pride 0.99
00:23:24.480 in Christianity. 1.00
00:23:25.420 Again, it's number one 0.99
00:23:26.880 on the sin list. 0.95
00:23:27.800 but the government of Israel is promoting the largest pride event they claim in the history
00:23:36.020 of the region this June in the Dead Sea the lowest point on earth very close to by the way
00:23:43.000 Sodom and Gomorrah weirdly you wonder what Mike Huckabee the Baptist preacher turned U.S. ambassador
00:23:51.380 to Israel has to say about this nothing you know what Mike Johnson the Christian speaker of the
00:23:56.840 House has to say about this. You can imagine that this event, whether you're for it or not,
00:24:02.340 probably won't be consistent with Christian values or even
00:24:06.600 Judeo-Christian values, whatever those are. Here are last pride parades.
00:24:26.840 What do you think of that, Mike Huckabee?
00:24:48.660 Is that consistent with your values?
00:24:50.980 Are you going to go to the pride parade?
00:24:54.860 Look, countries are complicated.
00:24:56.840 not everything that happens in a country you're going to support even if you love the country,
00:25:01.280 of course. But the PR effort that evangelicals leaders in the United States have made on behalf
00:25:09.440 of Israel is so over the top, so totally uncompromising in its positive spin. Everything
00:25:16.160 about Israel is great. Any criticism of Israel is immoral. It's anti-Christian. It's, of course,
00:25:20.700 anti-Semitic, that you have to wonder, is there anything? Is there any humiliation? Is there any
00:25:28.020 middle finger that they wouldn't ignore? Is there any suffering of actual Christians in the region
00:25:33.900 that they wouldn't downplay in order to continue telling a manufactured story about a country that
00:25:39.700 bears no resemblance to their description of it at all? A country of people, or some people anyway,
00:25:47.780 who literally won't use the plus sign
00:25:49.920 because it looks like a Christian cross.
00:25:52.680 There's a pride parade
00:25:54.500 in the middle of the Holy Land. 1.00
00:25:58.000 They're totally fine with it. 0.87
00:26:00.380 Apparently, 0.71
00:26:01.620 they're so used to humiliation,
00:26:07.560 American evangelical leaders,
00:26:09.020 that they will even sit by and cheer
00:26:11.780 as Mark Levin lectures them
00:26:14.940 on the New Testament.
00:26:15.940 Imagine sitting now with Mark Levin
00:26:17.180 and saying, the one thing you don't understand, Mark Levin, is the Talmud. 1.00
00:26:20.180 So be quiet as I tell you what your religion teaches. 0.90
00:26:23.700 Well, of course not.
00:26:25.080 No one could be that presumptuous, except Mark Levin,
00:26:29.280 who is entirely comfortable using his platform on Fox News
00:26:32.660 to lecture Christians about what the Christian Bible teaches about violence.
00:26:38.000 And not only does he get it wrong, he grotesquely inverts it.
00:26:41.760 Here he is, with no trace of shame whatsoever,
00:26:44.580 lecturing Christians about why their God supports the war in Iran.
00:26:52.560 Well, war isn't outlawed under certain circumstances.
00:26:57.180 Peace is preferred.
00:26:58.120 Love is preferred.
00:26:59.040 Conciliation is preferred, right?
00:27:01.540 Negotiation is preferred.
00:27:02.740 Diplomacy is preferred.
00:27:04.960 But there's evil.
00:27:06.940 The Bible recognizes it.
00:27:09.380 We recognize it.
00:27:10.840 But there's also this, Revelation 19, 11 through 21.
00:27:14.580 describes the second coming, the ultimate war, as has been written, as others have written,
00:27:20.940 Jesus judges and makes war, quote, with justice. It's going to be bloody. I'm quoting,
00:27:27.240 the birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose him. He will conquer completely and
00:27:31.740 consigned to a, quote, fiery lake of burning sulfur. There's Mark Levin telling you what
00:27:38.740 Christianity is really about on Fox News. You have to wonder, do Fox executives know this is
00:27:45.660 happening? That takes some brass to say something like that. And of course, he's gotten it exactly
00:27:50.600 wrong. He's describing the last book of the New Testament, a prophecy by St. John, in which he
00:27:58.980 describes the end of history, the return of Jesus to earth to judge the living and the dead.
00:28:04.580 So, in Christianity, it is God who makes that judgment.
00:28:10.200 It is God who punishes the wicked.
00:28:13.140 Love and compassion and reconciliation are not, quote, preferred, as Mark Levin describes.
00:28:18.940 They are mandatory.
00:28:20.360 They are required.
00:28:21.640 Every Christian must love.
00:28:23.520 Reconciliation is a requirement of the religion, not something that you're encouraged to do
00:28:30.640 if you can spare the time.
00:28:32.280 You have to do it.
00:28:34.580 So only God can judge.
00:28:38.300 And Jesus is really clear about that.
00:28:40.640 But there's Mark Levin telling you
00:28:42.340 that Jesus himself wants you to support
00:28:45.660 tearing the eyes out of your enemies,
00:28:49.860 bringing justice through violence. 0.99
00:28:53.060 It's disgusting. 0.99
00:28:54.780 It's disgusting. 0.97
00:28:56.060 And yet there's not a single evangelical leader 0.73
00:28:59.280 in the United States
00:29:00.120 who has the bravery required
00:29:02.520 to challenge Mark Levin
00:29:04.360 as he desecrates the religion itself.
00:29:11.900 One thing that might help, once again,
00:29:13.940 is speaking to Christians who live under Israeli occupation,
00:29:18.420 who actually live there, who live in East Jerusalem,
00:29:21.260 who live in Gaza, who live in the West Bank,
00:29:23.580 who live in Lebanon, and who live in Syria.
00:29:28.320 And one thing we know about Israeli occupation,
00:29:31.740 it does not improve the lives of the occupied. And that is one way to judge
00:29:38.300 the decency of any person or any empire. If a father is a good father, his kids are probably
00:29:49.400 happy and well cared for. If he's not, they're very screwed up. If an empire is a benevolent 0.97
00:29:55.500 empire, its protectorates thrive, and if it's not, they wither. There is no place occupied by Israel 0.98
00:30:03.100 currently that is thriving, and that would include the United States not thriving. 0.53
00:30:09.080 This is just an obvious observation, but it is incumbent on American Christian leaders
00:30:15.000 to speak directly to their brothers and sisters in Christ who live under that occupation and to
00:30:21.260 get their perspective. It is not enough to take an all-expenses-paid vacation to Israel and spend
00:30:27.320 three days in a conference center with pre-selected speakers selected by the government and Israeli
00:30:33.840 officials and IDF officials and get your little helicopter tour of the Negev Desert and all the
00:30:37.980 rest and then fly back to the United States and spew another government's propaganda to your
00:30:44.080 parishioners. That is not enough. You got to take a minute to talk to Christians who were born there
00:30:49.760 and still live there and ask them the obvious question,
00:30:52.300 how are you doing?
00:30:54.920 And one of the things you will find if you do that
00:30:58.460 is that they're not doing well at all.
00:31:01.380 And they've been leaving.
00:31:02.640 They've been leaving ever since 1948,
00:31:06.040 since the creation of Israel,
00:31:07.240 when many thousands of them were expelled by the Israelis
00:31:10.560 from their own homes.
00:31:12.780 Those homes were taken.
00:31:14.000 They were bulldozed or stolen.
00:31:16.960 A lot of them moved to the United States. 0.93
00:31:19.760 and their descendants are still here,
00:31:21.140 and they can tell you if you would ask,
00:31:22.960 how were they treated by the Israeli government?
00:31:24.820 Not well. 0.94
00:31:25.760 And if you ask Christians who live there now, 1.00
00:31:27.440 they will tell you,
00:31:28.380 not only are they not well treated,
00:31:29.760 but their religion is uniquely despised
00:31:33.080 by the Israeli government.
00:31:36.900 Uniquely. 0.99
00:31:37.660 There's something about Christianity 1.00
00:31:38.420 that's especially offensive
00:31:39.900 to some Israeli cabinet ministers. 1.00
00:31:44.300 Here is one Arab Christian
00:31:46.960 from right around Bethlehem,
00:31:48.920 where Jesus was born,
00:31:50.680 where the Church of the Nativity is,
00:31:51.860 one of the holiest churches in Christendom,
00:31:53.620 falling apart thanks to the military occupation of Israel.
00:31:58.500 But here's her description
00:32:00.280 of the attitude of the Israeli government
00:32:02.720 toward her and other Christians.
00:32:08.180 What the settlers did,
00:32:10.640 you know, they hate the Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ.
00:32:14.620 They have broken the statue of Virgin Mary that we had with Jesus when they came into, and we didn't have time to take it out.
00:32:27.520 They have broken it, and they literally hate Christians more than anything else in the world.
00:32:39.940 That woman's name is Alice Kasia.
00:32:42.680 She is a lifelong resident of the West Bank,
00:32:45.980 again, right outside Bethlehem,
00:32:47.720 and has been engaged for two decades
00:32:50.180 in a struggle to keep her family's farm 0.87
00:32:52.740 and their restaurant.
00:32:53.980 Her house was bulldozed.
00:32:55.080 The restaurant was closed by the Israeli government.
00:32:57.740 She's from there. 1.00
00:32:58.980 They own the land.
00:33:01.360 But they have been fighting a nonstop battle
00:33:04.200 against the government of Israel,
00:33:05.560 as many Christians have been in the West Bank, 1.00
00:33:08.140 to keep what is theirs
00:33:09.560 and to prevent being arrested or shot.
00:33:13.860 She has been hassled on a regular basis,
00:33:17.840 including physically by Israeli settlers.
00:33:20.340 Here's a picture of one encounter she had.
00:33:24.380 That's an Israeli settler on the left grabbing her. 0.50
00:33:28.280 These are people from, in many cases,
00:33:32.400 outside the region from the United States or Ukraine,
00:33:35.320 she told us,
00:33:35.900 who showed up and decided that the land of Christians belongs to them.
00:33:41.360 Now, we spoke to her at some length a couple of hours ago. 0.79
00:33:45.160 We're about to play you this interview.
00:33:47.180 But probably the most striking thing that she told us when we asked,
00:33:52.200 well, what have American church leaders done to help you?
00:33:56.160 What has Franklin Graham done to help you?
00:33:58.660 People who raise hundreds of millions of dollars every single year
00:34:03.840 to help Christians and to make the world more Christian.
00:34:06.640 What have they done to help you?
00:34:08.540 And she said, well, they've abetted,
00:34:12.360 they've worked to effect, 0.64
00:34:14.460 to accelerate the ethnic cleansing of this area. 0.97
00:34:18.080 They've come in and offered to help us move
00:34:20.640 on behalf of the Israeli government 0.99
00:34:22.960 to get the Arabs out, people who were born there,
00:34:25.560 who are the indigenous population of the area,
00:34:28.080 the Christians, Christian leaders in the United States
00:34:30.520 have said, the solution to your problem is leave.
00:34:33.840 we'll help you get a visa.
00:34:38.340 The shame in that,
00:34:40.680 that is a true moral crime.
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00:37:26.000 here is alice cassia from the west bank alice thank you very much for doing this i think a lot
00:37:32.940 of americans and particularly american christians were shocked to see the image of an idf soldier
00:37:40.060 smashing the face of jesus with a sledgehammer i i don't think they knew that that could happen
00:37:46.320 i don't think they understand why it happened were you surprised by it um actually first of all
00:37:53.280 thank you for having me. It's a privilege. Second, no, because the settlers have been
00:38:01.120 vandalizing our Christian symbols multiple times. They have been spitting on our priests
00:38:09.100 and writing bad words on the churches, so I'm not surprised, and this is not the first time.
00:38:15.940 why do you think they're targeting churches and priests and christian villages
00:38:24.300 they don't like christians they hate us um it's all propaganda because the uh the population of
00:38:35.580 the united states are mostly christians and they want their um side so if the u.s christians know
00:38:42.920 how the Christians, the indigenous Christians, from Jesus' bloodline, how they live here,
00:38:48.160 they would change their mind. It's a little bit surprising because in the United States,
00:38:54.260 we're told that the enemies of the state of Israel are Muslims and that Israelis,
00:39:01.060 and that would include the IDF and settlers, are allies with the Christians, have a lot in 0.87
00:39:06.720 common with the christians and this is really a war against radical islam islamists jihadis
00:39:13.320 but you're saying that they hate christians what why do you think that is and how do you know that
00:39:19.160 um because in in our land uh i don't know if you're familiar with the mahrur story they have
00:39:28.720 invaded our land in 2024 which is after like more than 15 years of struggling with the civil
00:39:36.380 administration and with the settlers and with settlers companies trying to take over our land
00:39:42.080 and demolishing our properties there. They took advantage of the war after the 7th of October
00:39:49.020 and they invaded the land and they have broken the statue of Virgin Mary. They have broken also 0.91
00:39:58.120 the icon, the picture of Virgin Mary. They have vandalized the cross. I have also videos on my
00:40:05.820 Instagram on my social media people can see that I have been recording everything that they are
00:40:11.560 doing but they are doing this propaganda in order to raise Islamophobia in the western countries in 0.64
00:40:18.740 order to take over the Palestinian lands and to annex the West Bank in the name of Islamophobia
00:40:24.820 but as Christian that has I was born in Palestine in Bethlehem and my neighbors my cousins are
00:40:33.240 Muslims. So I don't see that there is a really problem with Islam. It's the extremist people
00:40:40.720 that are the problem. So in each religion, we have those extremist people. We cannot refer to
00:40:47.420 some religion that it's extreme or Tehran because of their extremist people. But I think it's all 1.00
00:40:57.860 of it because they want to annex the West Bank.
00:41:02.000 It's just interesting, though, destroying images of Jesus or the Virgin Mary.
00:41:08.000 That's not protection from terrorism.
00:41:12.060 I mean, why would a soldier or a settler destroy an image of Jesus or Mary?
00:41:20.660 I don't understand.
00:41:22.100 I have it here.
00:41:22.880 I can show you also.
00:41:24.600 Please do.
00:41:25.800 The picture.
00:41:27.860 I also posted this previously on my social media. 0.72
00:41:34.100 This is the picture that they tried to cut off and to break it when they entered our land.
00:41:41.300 They hate Christians because they know that Christianity is more like, you know, we are very peaceful.
00:41:50.100 We fight in a different way.
00:41:53.860 and especially Christians in Bethlehem and in the West Bank,
00:41:57.780 we are less than 1%.
00:41:59.380 And the amount of lands that Christian has 0.72
00:42:03.920 is the second largest lands after Israel.
00:42:06.740 So they want Christians to immigrate from the West Bank, 0.83
00:42:09.780 from Palestine, in order to take over those lands.
00:42:14.820 Well, that's shocking. 1.00
00:42:17.400 Have churches in the United States or Christian leaders
00:42:21.420 or American officials, are they aware of this?
00:42:25.560 And have they done anything to help you?
00:42:30.440 Actually, it's not only helping me,
00:42:33.240 it's helping Christianity
00:42:34.580 or what has left from Christianity in that line
00:42:38.380 because we are less than 1%
00:42:40.500 and at least 200 families have immigrated
00:42:44.740 since 7th of October,
00:42:47.040 which is a, this is a big number for less than 1%.
00:42:51.080 So they are trying so hard to convince Christians to leave the country somehow by a Christian Zionist organizations or people and give them support to travel, to offer them job opportunities. 0.68
00:43:07.480 And this is a way of ethnic cleansing, a systematic ethnic cleansing. 0.92
00:43:11.760 so it's not surprising there are like um some people some priests some religious people have
00:43:18.560 yes they um they talked about this but we didn't really see the actions
00:43:24.740 you mentioned christian zionists what are what have they done to help
00:43:31.360 nothing they are zionists they they only uh offer like you know and traveling to spain 0.87
00:43:41.520 to Europe, to the U.S. to get better job opportunities, better life in a way that this 0.98
00:43:48.500 life is like life in Bethlehem or in the West Bank. It's not really stable, so they offer
00:43:55.840 them to travel. So this is a systematic way for ethnic cleansing for Christians. And this 1.00
00:44:03.060 is all because of the settlers' organizations, extreme settlers' organizations, are trying
00:44:10.320 to take over the Orthodox Christian lands. 0.84
00:44:15.100 So you think that Christian Zionists 1.00
00:44:17.440 in the United States are helping 0.97
00:44:20.100 to ethnically cleanse the West Bank? 1.00
00:44:22.340 They're trying to get Christians out? 1.00
00:44:25.120 Yes, they are helping them with their funds,
00:44:28.480 with their taxpayers, with everything,
00:44:31.520 with their support for them. 1.00
00:44:33.180 We are being ethnic cleansing because of them. 0.74
00:44:36.180 And they are not really aware 0.92
00:44:37.280 that they are erasing the history of the cradle of Jesus Christ.
00:44:42.960 Because in our case, in Al-Makhrur,
00:44:46.420 like one of the settlers told me,
00:44:48.300 like after we take over Al-Makhrur,
00:44:50.960 which is one of the last, also like Taibe,
00:44:53.960 one of the last Christian villages,
00:44:55.880 he said that we will come to Bethlehem 1.00
00:44:58.120 and we will take over everything
00:44:59.640 because Bethlehem is for us as Jews.
00:45:02.680 it's it's also shocking you said 200 christian families have left bethlehem since october 7th
00:45:11.440 why have they left because of the instability because of the economics because of the war
00:45:17.880 they the the occupation of the annexation of the west bank settlers violence the the the open air
00:45:24.840 prison that we live in we don't have like in each village between each village and village and city
00:45:30.240 We have gates.
00:45:33.160 We cannot move freely, even in the West Bank.
00:45:39.260 So they did great.
00:45:41.180 Would it be possible for you?
00:45:43.280 Well, let's just start at the beginning.
00:45:44.800 Where were you born?
00:45:46.920 I was born in Jerusalem, but it was like it's called Yehuda and Samaria.
00:45:53.900 um in the in the i have an israel citizenship so i'm also palestinian with an israel citizenship
00:46:00.800 i'm also french and that's why um i i managed to fight them if i was palestinian like within
00:46:08.680 palestinian idea i couldn't do that but because i have an israelis citizenship
00:46:13.400 and i have i have the same rights as the settlers but though i was treated with
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00:47:43.060 in jerusalem and didn't have french citizenship you wouldn't be able to speak out against the 0.98
00:47:48.020 settlers why is that um because palestinians could be easily detained for years for nothing 0.98
00:47:56.880 and even not get a trail or even a court just being postponed every time when they can stay
00:48:05.000 three four years so as do you know people who've been detained yes of course i know also there is
00:48:17.720 a layan nasir she's christian palestinian from uh ramallah she's now uh in in jail she was
00:48:26.060 detained many times for nothing why is she in was she accused of violence
00:48:32.680 somehow they they say yes of violence of i don't know they claim whatever they want
00:48:42.100 with retaining has has there been a trial
00:48:45.600 every time they postpone and they uh change the dates and they um she went out and they took her
00:48:55.380 again so i think they can do whatever they want with palestinians and my father is palestinian
00:49:02.660 he had permission to work in in jerusalem and after the incidents in al makhroor they stopped
00:49:10.060 his permission uh because they wanted to cut off the sources of income for the family
00:49:16.460 for us not to be able to pay for the courts for to pay for even if i got uh jailed uh because i was
00:49:24.980 arrested multiple times for nothing also because i was defending my land and even i was calling
00:49:31.460 the police to come to protect me from settlers and they were arresting me so you can never guess
00:49:39.260 tell us what happened to your land where is it and what happened okay so el makhroor is uh in area
00:49:49.540 c area c uh you know we have a b c a uh it's fully with the palestinians b is like um with
00:49:58.920 Palestinians but also anyway all of them the Israeli calendar. C is with the 0.99
00:50:04.120 Israeli, it's Palestinian territory but under the Israeli army. So Al-Makhrour 0.68
00:50:11.480 it's area C, it's near the Bethlehem governor. It's all like Palestinians 1.00
00:50:18.840 owned properties. They started demolitions from 2012. We had the 0.99
00:50:27.880 restaurant and the house there and they demolished it four times each time we
00:50:33.280 rebuilt it and with the fourth time they demolished the house and even the
00:50:39.960 house was in their registration process in the civil administration. The civil
00:50:44.740 administration is the institution where they control the 67 areas with the
00:50:51.580 Israeli government so they demolished it and we stayed in tents for five years
00:50:57.520 in that land in order to protect it and not letting the settlers taking it but after the
00:51:02.560 7th of october they invaded the land along with the police and the army young settlers i'm talking
00:51:08.540 about also minors protected by the army um they announced it as a closed military zone and this
00:51:15.500 closed military zone it's not even for our area it's for another area but this is how it works
00:51:21.000 They use another military zone and they stick it to your map, to your area, and they just tell you this is a closed military zone, you should leave.
00:51:31.380 And they keep the settlers inside.
00:51:33.520 And this is what happened.
00:51:35.260 We stayed there for, we set up a solidarity tent for 40 days in the area and we invited international activists,
00:51:44.820 israeli jews uh palestinians foreigners uh religious people uh so we can fight back uh
00:51:53.540 non-violent uh resistance uh we had a woman-led circles we had interfaith events to prove that
00:52:00.660 even even in the hardest times in the war we the people can live together arabs and jews
00:52:08.180 and uh after a long battle which is also we went to the ports me and my brother without
00:52:13.540 a lawyer because uh i will tell you now how they use the lawyers to manipulate those cases and
00:52:19.540 steal those lands uh we have managed to kick them out so um how it works smootrich is funding those
00:52:28.640 organizations so uh there is a guy also called ohad tal he's always welcomed in the u.s
00:52:36.100 ohad tal sent his cousins leor tal to our land to take over it with smootrich and the head of
00:52:42.040 the settlements in Gush Atsion, Yaron Rosenthal. 0.75
00:52:47.900 You know, it's a big web of corrupted people. 0.97
00:52:52.140 They use, you know, I don't know if you see it,
00:52:56.760 but they use companies, those companies, private companies,
00:53:00.980 such as Himanota.
00:53:02.840 Himanota is the subsidiary of the Jewish National Fund.
00:53:05.880 It works in 67 areas because the Jewish National Fund
00:53:09.220 cannot work or act in the 67 areas.
00:53:14.300 So they established small companies, private companies, 0.84
00:53:18.840 to work and to steal lands in the 67 areas in Palestine. 0.70
00:53:25.360 So how it works? 0.94
00:53:27.080 It works with, for example, Hemanuta.
00:53:30.300 It's a company that was founded in the UK in 1938.
00:53:35.340 It was registered in Jerusalem, and it works in Jerusalem.
00:53:38.200 But it cannot work in the 67 areas because according to the Jordanian law number 40 that they were trying to pass in Knesset, and they did pass it a few weeks ago, and it's not going to work anyway, they are trying to steal those lands by erasing this law. 0.84
00:53:56.760 And this law is forbidding selling or buying lands by non-Araqs. 0.87
00:54:03.540 So they made a legislative process in 71 by the army, the Israeli army, to allow private companies, foreigners or Israeli companies, to do development projects on those lands or to purchase those lands or only for commercial purposes. 0.84
00:54:20.100 so those companies in order to to act in 67 areas they have to be registered officially
00:54:28.020 by the civil administration so we got the list of companies that are allowed
00:54:34.340 to to to to do a development defect sorry development projects in 67 areas and this
00:54:41.560 company it's not even registered it's a it's a fake company they do forge documents how it
00:54:49.960 works. For example, here I have a tax paying document from the civil administration in
00:54:59.920 2014 in the name of my father. So in order to get the land registry document, you need
00:55:07.940 to pay this tax for the land. And they claim, Hemanuta, which is the private company, claim
00:55:14.780 that they bought this land in 69. So after 67, when the Jordanian left and the
00:55:24.660 Israeli came and took over the 67 areas, there is an archive that the
00:55:30.920 Jordanian gave a copy for the Israelis. And this archive has all the
00:55:37.100 agreements about the lands that has been done in the 67 areas at that time. So
00:55:42.620 So after 67 until 80, there's no agreements were done because the archive itself, it says from 1948 until 80, from 1948 until 80.
00:55:58.000 So in 81, they established the civil administration.
00:56:01.760 And according to this, they started to change the laws in 67 in order to try to get the Israelis to buy and sell Palestinian lands through private companies.
00:56:14.800 And what they did is that they went to the archive that is related to our area in Bethlehem.
00:56:20.760 There is a 44 agreement that were officially registered in this archive.
00:56:24.720 and there it's out of a 200 pages they registered 44 pages and there's 156 pages are empty so what
00:56:35.040 this company was trying to do is that the 156 pages they were filling them with their own
00:56:42.820 agreements as if it's in the archive so when we went to the archive according to their
00:56:49.540 claims, we found
00:56:51.680 it empty. This is
00:56:53.620 the empty pages.
00:56:55.540 Because they said that
00:56:57.220 the agreement was done here in this
00:56:59.560 page and it's empty. So it's all
00:57:01.540 forging documents in order
00:57:03.520 to steal more and 0.96
00:57:05.620 more Palestinian and especially 0.99
00:57:07.440 Christian lands because we have the
00:57:09.440 largest amount of lands after
00:57:11.460 Israel.
00:57:12.840 May I ask, so is that why 0.99
00:57:15.220 they
00:57:15.440 tore your house down?
00:57:19.540 yeah it's a it's a way of pushing us to leave displacement of christians of families it's a way 0.97
00:57:26.960 to push us like you know uh they have many ways to force us to leave they tried to uh to spread
00:57:34.360 rumors that we we uh we sold the land so the community around us would hate us would not even
00:57:40.880 stand with us if they enter and if they take over the land second they use the lawyers the lawyers
00:57:49.240 that we hired in order, they bribe them, they thread them, and they do deal exchanges with
00:57:57.180 them in order to get the case to go the way that they want. And this is why we didn't use any
00:58:02.780 lawyer the last time, because we know they can manipulate all the lawyers according to their
00:58:08.240 own interests. So they also went to our neighbors, Palestinian neighbors, and convinced them that 0.99
00:58:16.240 if you want to take your land registration you have to come and sign up for a new map where you 0.64
00:58:21.760 sign that your neighbor is not my father it's it's the jewish like himenota company which is 0.55
00:58:27.920 the israeli extremist settlers uh company so they have multiple ways for pushing you out even by um
00:58:35.920 even if you work in jerusalem or somewhere they send you some people to to force you to leave the
00:58:43.120 job, the work. Not to make you able to pay for your own lawyers, for your own costs, for your
00:58:51.920 daily life. So they have multiple ways to attack physically, mentally, psychology, economy, like
00:59:02.140 everything. It's not easy. 15 years of struggle since I was very young, I wasn't really aware of
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01:01:04.480 So what happened to the house? 1.00
01:01:06.820 They knocked it down.
01:01:08.580 Did you rebuild it?
01:01:11.240 Is it gone?
01:01:12.580 Not, yeah, it was gone in 2019.
01:01:16.860 Illegally, of course.
01:01:18.560 We had a big restaurant there.
01:01:20.580 And I'm sure that Smutrich and his friends were very, you know, interested in this area.
01:01:27.240 in order to connect south of Bethlehem settlements to Jerusalem.
01:01:33.200 But as I said before, Smootrich had a dream,
01:01:36.200 which is connecting Gush Aksion to Jerusalem.
01:01:40.900 And we as a family, we smashed his dreams.
01:01:46.080 We got the land back.
01:01:48.140 Is the restaurant still open?
01:01:50.440 No, it's demolished. We have nothing.
01:01:52.540 Like even they cut off 40 trees.
01:01:55.000 They uprooted 40 trees from the land.
01:01:58.360 They made it miserable.
01:02:01.800 What kind of trees?
01:02:03.180 Why would they cut down the trees?
01:02:05.680 The settlers, you know, they provoke.
01:02:08.900 So each time they destroy things, they uproot trees, 0.95
01:02:14.580 anything to provoke Palestinians.
01:02:19.720 So settlers can come onto your land and cut your trees down,
01:02:23.700 and then what do you do like you know it was one of the most annoying things even more than
01:02:33.540 demolition because those trees grew up with me in the land um it's not only trees like i have
01:02:41.220 memories with family with friends with like the the business that we had um so they do anything
01:02:49.340 to make you angry to to do one mistake to put you in jail
01:02:54.140 do do they ever go to jail they the settlers they they they attacked me and once a settler
01:03:04.540 he tried to chuck me in the car and i called the police and he also tried to attack my mom
01:03:09.920 and the police arrested both of both of us and we slept in jail for nothing wait a settler tried
01:03:17.860 to choke you and your mother you called the police and the police arrested you and your mother
01:03:23.360 yes and i have videos on my instagram 0.56
01:03:26.420 and you this is so evil it's hard to it's hard to digest it what why did they arrest you
01:03:35.340 because the the police uh there in that area are most of them settlers and working with the head
01:03:45.280 of the settlements, Jeroz Rosetal, and working according to his instructions because it's
01:03:52.420 a big web of corrupted people.
01:03:56.160 So they do whatever they want because in that area it's like Area C. It's different than 0.82
01:04:04.520 in Jerusalem or in 48. 0.89
01:04:06.720 So they have settlers groups that are controlling those police stations.
01:04:12.400 what about the united states ambassador to israel mike huckabee he's a christian he's been to
01:04:20.640 bethlehem he talks often about christianity has he done anything to help you actually
01:04:28.940 mike huckabee he was in christmas in the nativity church and i was like sitting like
01:04:35.360 really next to him, but he couldn't even hear Pizzaballa talking about peace or love or even
01:04:46.240 the war that was in Gaza or he couldn't stand it. And I saw this in his face. So he doesn't
01:04:52.620 really care for Christians. Are there any churches in the United States who've helped you?
01:04:58.740 um i had many visitors from churches yes in united states i'm from uk and from around the
01:05:09.220 world but i don't remember actually the names but yeah some people that just come to visit but
01:05:15.180 it's it's really hard to act like we saw we saw how the israeli government is doing and it's really
01:05:23.880 hard to act. No one can stop them. And even Netanyahu cannot stop Smootrich from landlife
01:05:32.700 settlers' violence. Do you believe Smootrich is hostile to Christianity, dislikes Christianity?
01:05:41.120 Of course he does. He doesn't like Christians. He's so racist. He sends his settlers.
01:05:47.220 Let me tell you something. Even he doesn't like his own Jewish youth because he's sending miners to mountains without electricity, without water, just to take over those lands for his own profit. 0.97
01:06:02.360 he used minors for attacking Palestinians
01:06:07.100 and the first victims of this
01:06:09.580 it's their Jewish youth
01:06:11.920 it's their Jewish kids 1.00
01:06:13.780 because those kids have psychological problems 1.00
01:06:17.120 they come from orphans, welfares
01:06:19.460 and they use them for their own political goals
01:06:22.300 and that's why I call it
01:06:24.760 it's about the project land
01:06:27.600 it's not about the promised land
01:06:29.240 because at the end
01:06:30.200 someone like Heron Rosenthal
01:06:32.260 is the head of the settlements on every settlement he he confirms he gets a hundreds thousands of
01:06:40.180 money to his pocket so at the end he doesn't really care about jews or christians or muslims
01:06:45.840 it's all about projects and money because he's after that he's building projects in on palestinian
01:06:52.120 lands and promoting them for jews around the world for millions and millions of dollars at the end
01:06:58.480 they don't really care for their own kids because they will send them each time to different places 0.97
01:07:03.440 to take over those lands and he let Jews from around the world to come and buy those 0.64
01:07:09.200 apartments or places. So he doesn't really care for his own kids and he doesn't care for 0.97
01:07:17.200 Christianity. There are no actions taken for those settlers. It's crazy. I hope you come one day. 0.99
01:07:27.260 I hope so, too.
01:07:29.060 I don't know if I'd be allowed to.
01:07:31.540 How often do you see settlers?
01:07:36.100 Every day.
01:07:38.340 How close do they live to you?
01:07:41.560 It's like, it's the same area.
01:07:44.120 They have taken over. 1.00
01:07:47.280 After we fought them and kicked them out of the Makhroor, 1.00
01:07:51.520 and thank God we succeeded, 1.00
01:07:53.080 um they have they are settled like four kilometers away from us on with caravans
01:08:01.560 um so we see them daily they they they also they stole my dog they uh ruined my uh place
01:08:12.760 they i'm sorry i'm sorry what what did you just say they did what to your dog
01:08:16.560 they they stole it and i think maybe they killed them i'm not i'm not sure but he has no i didn't
01:08:25.800 see him anymore like i also went to the police and i uh filed a complaint about them but at the end
01:08:34.220 they after three days they sent me your case was closed because a flag of evidence and we have
01:08:39.620 videos what what does the video show like when they were uh uh um getting into the land uh through
01:08:51.000 the gate and taking the dogs the dog study every time we have many many videos about them attacking
01:08:58.360 but the police has never did anything to stop them what they stole your dog they choked you
01:09:09.320 and your mother what do they ever explain why they're doing this did you do anything to them
01:09:13.920 because i'm fighting back for my own rights and um they hate me because um i never left
01:09:25.420 the land and i every time they were in my land i was coming with a group of activists
01:09:30.660 opening the gate and staying in the land until the police and army come and kick us out every
01:09:36.800 time for 40 days. I was annoying them. I made them go crazy. I exposed their forgi. And that's why
01:09:44.480 they are crazy about it. Do you worry they might try and kill you? No. Because they are too weak, 0.51
01:09:57.520 too cowards to do that. Because when I was confronting settlers and army, I knew from 0.99
01:10:04.380 inside that they are too weak to do anything wrong to me i'm stronger because i follow jesus
01:10:11.220 teachings and i uh i embody jesus and i would never be uh afraid of them and i don't let
01:10:20.580 this fear to control me that's why i'm stronger than them even when i was in jail i was even
01:10:26.720 stronger than them do you plan to stay my mom of course sorry do you plan to stay in the west bank
01:10:35.860 of course i would i'm planning and i'm i have said i have established my organization that
01:10:42.560 which i will be helping more calistinians to defend their lands and to take back their lands
01:10:49.540 against settlers land theft and violence and to protect them and also to do development uh
01:10:55.700 community development projects, in order to prevent the Palestinians from immigrating.
01:11:01.320 We want the Palestinians here because I believe in the two-state solution,
01:11:05.760 and it's on the way. Even people cannot see that, but I see it. 0.86
01:11:09.720 But there will be two-state solution, and the settlers will not like it.
01:11:14.100 They will go crazy.
01:11:17.000 Where are the settlers from?
01:11:21.280 Okay, where are the settlers from?
01:11:23.060 from the United States, Ukraine, East of Europe, even Europe, multiple places.
01:11:33.640 And most of the settlers, sorry.
01:11:36.220 Some are from Ukraine.
01:11:38.900 Yes.
01:11:41.460 Interesting.
01:11:44.020 Around the world.
01:11:45.280 But I'm talking about the settlers, the youth.
01:11:47.640 They gather them also from around the world, from fosters.
01:11:50.840 most of the the settlers they don't have parents or they have problems with the family so they
01:11:58.700 take them and they offer them agricultural school which is on other Palestinian land 0.99
01:12:04.780 and this agricultural school they teach them how to hate Arabs how to be so violent towards Arabs 0.82
01:12:14.720 and how to treat Palestinians. 0.97
01:12:16.800 And this is how they brainwash them. 0.98
01:12:19.560 They brainwash them with those agricultural schools,
01:12:24.240 which those kids are, or they have to volunteer hours
01:12:29.500 in order to get paid each month.
01:12:32.400 So you got me how it works?
01:12:35.940 Yeah, I mean, you're describing what we used to call a madrasa. 0.89
01:12:39.380 And we would say that Islamic religious extremist,
01:12:42.740 jihadis trained in madrasas as children and were taught to hate people who weren't like them and 0.83
01:12:48.280 taught violence. You're basically describing that. It's the same idea. It's the same. Terrorism has
01:12:56.540 no religion. So when you teach kids to hate human beings, no matter who they are, no matter what
01:13:03.880 differences there are between you and them, this is terrorism. And Smutrich is responsible for this
01:13:11.620 terrorism. And we have been terrorized a lot
01:13:15.740 as Christian family for many years, for 15 years
01:13:19.360 without any actions taken
01:13:23.620 against them. There's never
01:13:27.620 been a settler punished for attacking you? No.
01:13:32.500 Never.
01:13:35.620 Can you drive on their roads?
01:13:38.380 yes because i have an israeli citizenship
01:13:42.080 can your neighbors drive on their roads no my father cat
01:13:50.120 amazing i sure appreciate your taking all this time to talk to us
01:13:58.020 alice and i hope that you will get support from christians in the united states because you deserve
01:14:04.940 it thank you thank you mr carlson i just want to point out that we are also uh uh have been working
01:14:12.720 with an american organizations like the dpp the vulnerable people project uh save waste back
01:14:18.980 christians.com gaza walks like all of them where we're working together in order to help the
01:14:25.660 vulnerable people and the minorities around the world godspeed thanks thank you thanks a lot for
01:14:34.620 watching tonight. See you next Wednesday.