This is Gavin Newsom - August 12, 2025


Beto O’Rourke Is Risking Arrest To Protect Texas’s Voters


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

177.06807

Word Count

9,187

Sentence Count

554

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Beto O Rourke and his campaign are in hot water with Texas AG Ken Paxton, who wants to lock up Beto and take him in for questioning. What does this mean for the future of the Beto campaign? And what does it have to do with impeachment?


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00:02:47.360 This is Gavin Newsom.
00:02:59.280 And this is Beto O'Rourke.
00:03:03.040 Hey.
00:03:03.740 How you doing, brother?
00:03:05.180 I'm doing okay.
00:03:06.040 I'm back in El Paso.
00:03:07.340 This is home, so...
00:03:08.860 You should not be in El Paso.
00:03:10.780 You should be preparing.
00:03:12.120 Get a toothbrush.
00:03:13.580 You're on your way to jail, my friend.
00:03:15.220 I just read Paxton's latest missive.
00:03:17.740 He says, lock him up.
00:03:18.880 Lock him up.
00:03:20.100 That's right.
00:03:20.680 If Twitter can be believed,
00:03:22.720 that's where I'm headed next.
00:03:24.640 But for the time being,
00:03:25.940 I get to hang with family,
00:03:27.020 which is pretty nice.
00:03:28.180 But, I mean, on a serious note,
00:03:29.620 I mean,
00:03:30.720 I mean, guys,
00:03:31.660 the Attorney General of the state of Texas
00:03:33.500 said in a tweet,
00:03:36.020 Beto O'Rourke needs to be locked up,
00:03:38.500 not just hunted down,
00:03:40.080 but now locked up.
00:03:41.140 I mean, you've got to hunt a serious note.
00:03:42.460 You've got to tell me
00:03:43.300 you haven't had a private attorney or someone.
00:03:45.480 You're literally gaming this out.
00:03:46.920 You've got to game it out, right?
00:03:48.600 Yeah.
00:03:48.860 I mean, here's the thing
00:03:50.100 that everyone should know.
00:03:52.600 One,
00:03:53.480 they're trying to stop us
00:03:54.760 from exercising
00:03:55.780 our First Amendment
00:03:57.340 constitutionally protected right
00:03:58.920 to say what we want to say
00:04:01.080 about the politics of this country,
00:04:02.660 about the attempted theft
00:04:03.980 of these five congressional seats,
00:04:06.300 our encouragement to governors
00:04:08.880 such as yourself
00:04:09.680 to use their full power
00:04:11.240 to maximize
00:04:12.120 democratic congressional control
00:04:14.400 of the districts
00:04:15.100 within their states.
00:04:16.480 I mean,
00:04:16.720 this is the fight
00:04:17.720 that is taking place right now,
00:04:19.340 and they're trying to
00:04:20.740 take us out of this fight
00:04:21.860 by seeking to intimidate us
00:04:23.700 in the courts.
00:04:24.620 And now,
00:04:25.580 as you just referred to,
00:04:27.560 Ken Paxson is on Twitter saying,
00:04:29.480 lock him up.
00:04:30.680 And what they're,
00:04:32.060 Gavin,
00:04:32.260 this is what I think is going on.
00:04:33.640 Over the last seven,
00:04:35.780 eight months,
00:04:36.300 we've watched the wealthiest,
00:04:38.080 the most powerful people
00:04:39.780 and institutions
00:04:40.620 in this country
00:04:41.640 bend the knee.
00:04:42.380 The Ivy League universities,
00:04:44.020 Harvard may settle
00:04:44.940 for 500 million this week.
00:04:48.080 The big law firms,
00:04:49.920 Paramount,
00:04:50.700 CBS,
00:04:52.780 Zuckerberg,
00:04:54.620 Bezos,
00:04:55.680 all of them
00:04:56.280 are bending the knee.
00:04:57.180 And then they come to Texas
00:04:58.160 in this effort
00:04:58.800 to steal these five seats,
00:05:00.020 assuming
00:05:00.300 that we're going
00:05:01.880 to do the same.
00:05:03.280 And when our knees
00:05:04.120 don't bend,
00:05:05.220 they don't like that so much.
00:05:06.680 And so,
00:05:07.300 they not only seek
00:05:08.520 to vacate the seats
00:05:09.580 of the 54
00:05:10.400 statehouse Dems
00:05:11.920 who have broken quorum
00:05:13.060 to stop this deal,
00:05:14.460 they're threatening them
00:05:15.240 with second-degree felonies,
00:05:17.580 they're sending the FBI
00:05:18.860 and state troopers
00:05:19.900 after them,
00:05:20.760 but now they're suing us
00:05:21.980 successively,
00:05:22.800 many times
00:05:23.420 over the last few days
00:05:24.620 in state court here,
00:05:26.160 and now threatening
00:05:26.740 to put me in jail.
00:05:28.120 So,
00:05:28.840 this is where we are
00:05:30.000 right now,
00:05:30.560 and this is why
00:05:31.580 at this moment
00:05:32.260 we need people
00:05:32.960 to stand and fight.
00:05:34.640 Every single time
00:05:35.820 someone bends
00:05:37.260 the knee to these guys,
00:05:38.700 they get more powerful,
00:05:40.120 there's more momentum
00:05:40.840 behind them,
00:05:41.680 and it's going to be
00:05:42.600 just tougher for us
00:05:43.540 to succeed.
00:05:44.180 And if we don't,
00:05:45.280 I think this is
00:05:46.060 for all the marbles.
00:05:46.900 This is the ball game
00:05:47.800 in the summer of 2025,
00:05:49.340 not just the election
00:05:50.260 of 2026,
00:05:51.260 but whether there's
00:05:52.300 going to be
00:05:52.640 the consolidation
00:05:53.280 of authoritarian control
00:05:54.780 in the hands
00:05:55.640 of this president.
00:05:56.240 So,
00:05:56.740 we cannot be found
00:05:57.780 wanting right now.
00:05:58.540 We've got to fight
00:05:59.060 with all we've got.
00:06:00.220 I love it,
00:06:00.640 and so much to unpack
00:06:02.700 in everything you just said,
00:06:04.160 but let me just go back
00:06:05.340 a little bit,
00:06:05.940 just create some
00:06:06.700 situational awareness
00:06:07.640 for folks.
00:06:09.080 Quite literally,
00:06:09.920 just a few hours ago,
00:06:10.840 we were referencing
00:06:11.380 that tweet
00:06:11.920 where the attorney general
00:06:13.400 of the state of Texas
00:06:14.140 talked about locking you up,
00:06:15.700 but you referenced
00:06:16.580 powered by the people
00:06:17.900 or powered by people,
00:06:19.220 which is your PAC.
00:06:20.220 There was a lawsuit
00:06:21.920 by that same attorney general.
00:06:23.600 There was a court order
00:06:25.580 by a Abbott,
00:06:27.700 Governor Abbott
00:06:28.620 appointed judge
00:06:30.220 that did a temporary injunction,
00:06:33.100 and he's what,
00:06:33.900 asserting now
00:06:34.820 that you have broken
00:06:36.580 the tenets of the TRO
00:06:38.380 as it relates to the PAC?
00:06:40.040 Maybe illuminate us more
00:06:41.120 of what at least
00:06:42.160 he's asserting,
00:06:43.820 and then give us the facts.
00:06:46.200 We had a big rally planned
00:06:47.780 on Saturday in Fort Worth
00:06:49.420 in Tarrant County
00:06:50.320 in North Texas,
00:06:50.980 just next to Dallas
00:06:52.760 in the north part
00:06:53.860 of our state.
00:06:54.980 And so he went
00:06:56.000 to state court
00:06:57.380 in Fort Worth
00:06:58.840 in front of this
00:07:00.000 Abbott appointed judge,
00:07:00.940 as you pointed out,
00:07:01.900 4.30 on Friday
00:07:03.400 with almost,
00:07:04.620 and I think actually
00:07:05.280 no notice to our side,
00:07:07.840 filing a temporary
00:07:09.660 restraining order request
00:07:10.900 to stop me
00:07:11.680 from being able
00:07:12.260 to hold the rally,
00:07:13.560 from being able
00:07:14.080 to raise resources
00:07:15.040 for those who are
00:07:15.980 in this fight,
00:07:17.280 and for even being able
00:07:18.700 to speak.
00:07:19.220 But the TRO
00:07:20.780 that they got
00:07:21.400 was so incredibly
00:07:22.800 narrow in scope.
00:07:24.320 There are some very
00:07:24.960 technical, specific things
00:07:26.580 that I can't say,
00:07:27.560 and I have not said them,
00:07:28.960 but I've continued
00:07:29.940 to rally,
00:07:31.160 to fight,
00:07:31.780 to raise,
00:07:32.860 and to speak my mind.
00:07:33.800 And we did all that
00:07:34.580 in Fort Worth
00:07:35.180 on Saturday
00:07:35.940 in front of thousands
00:07:37.120 of fired up people
00:07:38.720 who want to make sure
00:07:39.960 that this theft
00:07:40.920 of these five congressional seats
00:07:42.420 does not proceed
00:07:43.400 in the state of Texas,
00:07:44.500 and that we stop,
00:07:45.600 you know,
00:07:46.140 finding ourselves
00:07:46.880 on the back foot
00:07:47.700 or on the defense,
00:07:48.420 but we take the fight
00:07:49.620 to them.
00:07:50.160 We go on offense.
00:07:51.920 We don't await the punch
00:07:53.120 to be thrown
00:07:53.740 by these would-be fascists.
00:07:55.420 We throw ours first
00:07:56.280 and we throw it harder.
00:07:57.560 That was the spirit
00:07:58.400 in Fort Worth
00:07:59.060 on Saturday,
00:07:59.680 and they didn't like that.
00:08:00.620 And so,
00:08:01.400 at the crack of dawn today,
00:08:03.080 they file this request
00:08:06.100 for the judge
00:08:06.680 to find me
00:08:07.100 in criminal contempt,
00:08:08.260 to lock me up,
00:08:09.180 put me behind bars,
00:08:10.160 and literally physically
00:08:11.360 prevent me
00:08:11.980 from continuing
00:08:12.640 to travel the state,
00:08:14.140 to hold rallies,
00:08:14.920 to meet with people,
00:08:15.740 to raise resources,
00:08:16.600 and to fight.
00:08:17.740 They just don't want us
00:08:19.020 to fight.
00:08:19.520 All the more reason
00:08:20.400 for us to fight
00:08:21.200 and very telling
00:08:23.180 about how panicked
00:08:24.440 and scared they are
00:08:25.500 if they cannot complete
00:08:26.680 this steal in Texas,
00:08:28.480 if they can stop us
00:08:30.180 from winning control
00:08:32.740 of,
00:08:33.380 or if they cannot
00:08:34.160 stop us
00:08:34.980 from winning control
00:08:36.160 of the House
00:08:36.540 of Representatives,
00:08:37.560 there's going to be
00:08:38.200 a check on their lawlessness.
00:08:39.760 There's going to be
00:08:40.100 accountability
00:08:40.520 for all the crimes
00:08:42.120 and corruption
00:08:42.660 that we see organized
00:08:43.700 out of the White House
00:08:44.420 right now,
00:08:45.040 and there's a very real
00:08:46.140 prospect that we'll have
00:08:47.160 free and fair elections
00:08:48.520 in 2028.
00:08:49.900 If we fail in this,
00:08:51.220 and this is what
00:08:51.660 they're counting on,
00:08:52.880 then that consolidation
00:08:53.800 of authoritarian power
00:08:55.080 proceeds at an even
00:08:56.580 increased pace,
00:08:57.760 and we've just seen
00:08:58.300 a blitzkrieg
00:08:59.120 over the last eight months.
00:09:00.940 That is just
00:09:01.820 the prelude
00:09:02.720 or the prologue
00:09:03.760 to what is going to happen
00:09:04.760 to America
00:09:05.280 over the next three
00:09:06.100 and a half years
00:09:06.760 if we're unsuccessful.
00:09:07.880 More masked,
00:09:09.140 plainclothes,
00:09:09.900 federal agents
00:09:10.540 without warrants
00:09:11.200 or badges,
00:09:12.320 sweeping fellow Americans
00:09:13.980 up off the streets,
00:09:14.980 more of Trump's
00:09:16.080 political opponents
00:09:16.880 targeted as I'm being
00:09:17.860 targeted right now
00:09:18.640 for vengeance
00:09:19.660 or retribution
00:09:20.420 or even political violence.
00:09:22.340 And we know
00:09:23.120 that a complicit
00:09:24.020 Republican-controlled Congress
00:09:25.800 will roll out
00:09:26.540 the red carpet
00:09:27.200 for a third Trump term.
00:09:28.720 So those are the stakes.
00:09:30.560 The election of 2026
00:09:31.880 is being decided right now
00:09:33.620 in the summer of 25,
00:09:34.940 and all of us
00:09:35.680 have to fight
00:09:36.480 with all that we've got
00:09:37.640 to make sure
00:09:38.340 that we win it
00:09:38.880 and win it now.
00:09:40.760 I want to go back.
00:09:42.260 You use the words
00:09:43.380 free and fair.
00:09:45.140 And I do think
00:09:45.760 it's important to pause.
00:09:46.820 And everything you said,
00:09:48.320 I agree.
00:09:48.940 And again,
00:09:49.340 I want to talk
00:09:50.460 much more about that.
00:09:51.900 But the notion
00:09:52.780 that they are trying
00:09:55.000 to stop you
00:09:56.320 from expressing yourself,
00:09:58.520 having a rally,
00:10:00.180 asserting your
00:10:00.860 fundamental constitution.
00:10:02.100 I mean,
00:10:02.500 I don't even want to go
00:10:03.180 into the obvious point,
00:10:04.600 but what the hell
00:10:05.420 is their assertion?
00:10:06.700 What do they say?
00:10:07.400 How could a judge
00:10:08.480 possibly do a TRO,
00:10:10.380 a temporary restraining order,
00:10:11.980 temporary injunction,
00:10:12.820 alleging that you've done what?
00:10:14.900 What was the assertion
00:10:16.300 on the basis
00:10:17.220 of what law
00:10:18.160 and what constitutional principle?
00:10:20.220 What were they claiming?
00:10:22.200 They're claiming
00:10:23.040 that our organization
00:10:24.780 powered by people
00:10:25.660 and that I personally
00:10:26.660 am attempting
00:10:27.680 to bribe
00:10:28.540 the 54 state House Democrats
00:10:31.080 who broke quorum
00:10:32.120 and left the state.
00:10:34.260 And you're bribing them
00:10:35.340 by doing what?
00:10:36.520 What's the assertion?
00:10:37.620 You bribe them
00:10:38.340 by you're handing,
00:10:39.520 are you doing cash envelopes?
00:10:41.060 Are you putting money
00:10:42.340 into their kids' bank accounts,
00:10:44.000 their spouses?
00:10:45.340 What are you doing exactly?
00:10:46.320 What is the assertion?
00:10:47.580 Not only are we not doing
00:10:48.840 any of those things
00:10:49.420 that you just mentioned,
00:10:50.160 I mean,
00:10:50.400 we literally have not written
00:10:51.700 a single check
00:10:52.920 to any of these
00:10:54.320 state legislators.
00:10:55.420 We're raising resources
00:10:56.580 to make sure
00:10:57.800 that all of us
00:10:58.800 can stay in this fight,
00:11:00.220 that we can stop this theft.
00:11:01.620 But yes,
00:11:02.140 they're asserting bribery,
00:11:03.440 which,
00:11:04.100 as you're pointing out,
00:11:05.540 is incredibly rich.
00:11:07.300 Ken Paxton himself
00:11:08.460 was not just accused
00:11:10.320 of bribery.
00:11:11.180 He was impeached
00:11:12.140 by the Texas legislature,
00:11:13.960 which, as you know,
00:11:14.700 is a Republican majority
00:11:15.940 institution.
00:11:17.080 Members of his own party
00:11:18.360 found him
00:11:19.140 or impeached him
00:11:20.380 for the accusation
00:11:22.760 of bribery.
00:11:24.380 And then you've got
00:11:24.920 the folks around him.
00:11:25.920 You know,
00:11:26.060 Greg Abbott,
00:11:26.620 the governor of Texas,
00:11:27.460 took $6 million
00:11:28.440 from an out-of-state billionaire,
00:11:30.960 Jeff Yass,
00:11:31.720 to unseat Republican members
00:11:34.740 of the state legislature
00:11:35.780 who were opposing
00:11:36.560 his voucher scheme,
00:11:37.700 which in plain terms
00:11:38.980 just means draining resources
00:11:40.360 from local schools
00:11:41.400 and cutting checks
00:11:42.560 to private schools,
00:11:43.620 which is just going
00:11:44.240 to decimate
00:11:44.940 public education
00:11:46.260 in the state of Texas.
00:11:47.180 And then we've got,
00:11:47.840 you know,
00:11:48.420 the president,
00:11:49.140 the bribery-in-chief,
00:11:50.100 who just reduced
00:11:51.360 Jelaine Maxwell's sentence,
00:11:53.560 you know,
00:11:53.860 reminder that she is
00:11:54.840 a convicted sex trafficker
00:11:56.880 of children,
00:11:57.840 of kids.
00:11:59.400 She's now at Camp Fed
00:12:00.960 outside of Bryan, Texas,
00:12:02.540 because presumably
00:12:03.540 she's playing ball
00:12:04.740 to hide Trump's complicity
00:12:06.820 to the degree he was
00:12:08.000 with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:12:09.640 You know,
00:12:09.780 the bribe to Eric Adams,
00:12:11.120 the quid pro quo
00:12:11.820 will drop the charges
00:12:12.800 against you
00:12:13.440 for bribery,
00:12:14.420 by the way,
00:12:15.400 if you will allow
00:12:16.420 our ICE agents
00:12:17.400 to run wild
00:12:18.260 on the streets
00:12:19.300 of your city.
00:12:20.120 The $400 million
00:12:21.180 from the Qataris,
00:12:22.580 the Trump meme coin
00:12:24.020 where anyone foreign
00:12:25.320 or domestic
00:12:26.060 can give any amount
00:12:27.100 of money
00:12:27.540 to purchase influence
00:12:29.120 and access
00:12:29.700 to the president
00:12:30.460 and his administration.
00:12:31.620 So, you know,
00:12:32.380 Joseph Goebbels
00:12:33.180 infamously said,
00:12:34.760 you know,
00:12:34.940 accuse your opponent
00:12:35.920 of the thing
00:12:36.760 that you yourself
00:12:37.600 are guilty of
00:12:38.660 and they're reading
00:12:39.640 that playbook
00:12:40.340 and they're running
00:12:41.040 those plays right now.
00:12:42.380 So, we have to make sure
00:12:43.840 that we fight
00:12:44.760 and not just fight back
00:12:45.880 but take the fight to them.
00:12:47.520 And I've just got to say
00:12:48.360 on behalf of the folks
00:12:49.420 that I'm working with
00:12:50.300 and listening to
00:12:51.240 across the state of Texas,
00:12:52.700 we are so damned
00:12:54.060 proud of you
00:12:54.800 and grateful to you
00:12:56.140 for taking this fight
00:12:57.380 to them.
00:12:57.880 Not waiting,
00:12:58.900 not reacting,
00:12:59.980 not watching see,
00:13:01.380 but taking the fight
00:13:02.120 to them.
00:13:02.460 We need more of that
00:13:03.460 across the country
00:13:04.160 right now.
00:13:05.180 Look, I appreciate that.
00:13:07.180 And look,
00:13:07.900 I appreciate
00:13:08.440 how reasonable
00:13:13.120 you are
00:13:14.060 under these
00:13:14.820 extraordinary circumstances.
00:13:16.760 Nothing about this
00:13:18.080 is normal.
00:13:19.440 Nothing about this
00:13:20.340 can be normalized.
00:13:22.800 Nothing about,
00:13:23.620 when people say
00:13:24.340 it's not surprising,
00:13:25.780 when people use
00:13:26.460 that phrase,
00:13:27.440 I recoil
00:13:28.440 because it makes me think
00:13:30.280 that they're somehow
00:13:31.580 accepting of it.
00:13:32.460 Well, it's not surprising.
00:13:33.620 It's not surprising.
00:13:34.780 It sure as hell
00:13:35.460 is surprising.
00:13:36.220 It's outrageous.
00:13:37.720 I mean,
00:13:37.960 the idea that you have
00:13:39.060 an attorney general
00:13:39.900 who himself
00:13:41.200 was accused of bribery,
00:13:42.800 again,
00:13:43.300 impeached by Republicans,
00:13:44.560 not just Democrats,
00:13:46.240 saying,
00:13:46.760 quote unquote,
00:13:47.100 he's going to hunt people down,
00:13:48.380 the Democrats
00:13:48.980 that left the state,
00:13:49.940 and now is locking,
00:13:51.180 going to lock you up.
00:13:52.700 That's serious.
00:13:53.540 I mean,
00:13:53.740 it's just,
00:13:54.120 it is serious.
00:13:54.760 And so I appreciate,
00:13:56.440 I appreciate how calm you are,
00:13:58.400 but it should scare the hell
00:14:01.080 out of everyone listening.
00:14:02.960 So I want to go back
00:14:03.840 just briefly.
00:14:05.080 You,
00:14:05.920 in 2021,
00:14:07.520 did similar work
00:14:09.620 on behalf of Democrats
00:14:11.460 that last time
00:14:12.620 left the state,
00:14:13.500 meaning this quorum break
00:14:15.860 occurred in 2021
00:14:17.740 in Texas
00:14:18.620 under different circumstances
00:14:20.340 on a different issue.
00:14:21.660 And my recollection is
00:14:23.320 that you,
00:14:24.180 Beto,
00:14:24.520 were out front
00:14:25.420 doing similar advocacy
00:14:27.280 or at least raising awareness
00:14:29.080 around this,
00:14:30.320 exercising your voice
00:14:31.300 and doing rallies
00:14:33.020 and calling people's attention
00:14:34.920 to this.
00:14:35.840 But you didn't,
00:14:37.260 to my knowledge,
00:14:38.020 experience anything
00:14:38.920 like you're experiencing today,
00:14:40.300 or is that inaccurate?
00:14:42.520 No,
00:14:42.760 you're exactly right.
00:14:43.860 And just to give people
00:14:44.920 some context,
00:14:45.660 Powered by People
00:14:46.300 is the largest
00:14:48.100 voter registration organization
00:14:50.120 in the state.
00:14:51.060 Hundreds of thousands
00:14:51.960 of Texans
00:14:52.640 are on the rolls
00:14:54.000 because of our volunteers
00:14:55.520 who literally go out there
00:14:57.100 and meet them
00:14:57.760 wherever they are
00:14:58.700 in the 254 counties of Texas.
00:15:01.840 Unlike California,
00:15:02.860 in our state,
00:15:03.380 there's no online
00:15:04.300 voter registration
00:15:05.080 or automatic voter registration,
00:15:07.100 same-day voter registration.
00:15:08.280 So imagine the poor 18-year-old
00:15:10.140 who's got to figure out
00:15:11.220 how to print the form out,
00:15:12.680 fill it out correctly,
00:15:13.720 find an envelope
00:15:14.460 and a stamp,
00:15:15.880 mail that sucker in
00:15:16.920 to the county registrar's office,
00:15:18.800 and then follow up on it
00:15:20.060 to get their voter registration card.
00:15:21.700 They're obviously targeting
00:15:22.880 these young people
00:15:23.800 because they fear them.
00:15:25.100 They don't want them to vote.
00:15:26.140 They don't want their voice heard.
00:15:27.520 They don't want their ballot
00:15:28.380 cast or counted
00:15:29.540 because that threatens
00:15:31.040 their purchase on power.
00:15:32.620 And so here's Powered by People
00:15:34.240 getting out there,
00:15:35.220 registering these young people,
00:15:36.480 staying in touch
00:15:37.120 with these young people
00:15:38.060 to ensure that they actually
00:15:39.680 get a chance
00:15:40.760 to participate in our politics.
00:15:42.580 It's that kind of work.
00:15:43.840 It's the support
00:15:44.640 of these Texas House Dems
00:15:47.120 and the larger fight
00:15:48.540 for democracy.
00:15:49.600 Look, just the right to vote
00:15:51.180 and to have free
00:15:52.260 and fair elections
00:15:53.040 and to make sure
00:15:54.120 that you have one person,
00:15:55.300 one vote in the state of Texas,
00:15:57.100 which has been
00:15:58.300 under constant attack
00:15:59.780 since Shelby v. Holder
00:16:01.040 was decided in 2013.
00:16:03.060 Literally, Gavin,
00:16:03.780 within minutes
00:16:04.360 of that decision,
00:16:05.840 the state of Texas
00:16:07.000 imposed the toughest
00:16:08.380 voter ID law
00:16:09.520 in the country.
00:16:11.480 You know,
00:16:11.620 you can use your license
00:16:12.620 to carry a firearm
00:16:13.640 to prove who you are
00:16:14.900 at the polling place,
00:16:15.880 but you dare not use
00:16:17.240 your ID
00:16:17.700 at the University of Texas
00:16:18.640 at El Paso
00:16:19.420 to do the same.
00:16:21.080 So they're going
00:16:21.960 after these young people.
00:16:23.240 They're going after
00:16:23.760 communities of color.
00:16:24.760 They're going after
00:16:25.460 Texans who live
00:16:27.240 in lower-income neighborhoods.
00:16:28.700 They just fear their power.
00:16:31.160 And there's a reason
00:16:31.860 that millions of Texans
00:16:32.940 don't vote.
00:16:33.720 It's not that they're lazy.
00:16:34.920 It's not that they don't
00:16:35.520 love this democracy.
00:16:36.500 It's not that they don't
00:16:37.000 care about the issues.
00:16:38.320 It's that they've literally
00:16:39.160 been drawn out.
00:16:40.220 And so they see us,
00:16:42.060 and I think rightfully so,
00:16:43.840 as a threat to this system
00:16:45.500 that is inherently
00:16:46.820 anti-democratic.
00:16:48.020 And they're not only
00:16:48.540 trying to silence us
00:16:49.780 from speaking out
00:16:50.740 about this theft right now,
00:16:52.160 they're trying to stop us
00:16:53.360 from doing this important
00:16:54.560 voter registration,
00:16:55.780 pro-democracy work
00:16:56.800 here in the state of Texas.
00:16:58.660 And, Bader,
00:16:58.900 you started, what,
00:16:59.820 2019,
00:17:00.860 powered by people?
00:17:02.660 Absolutely.
00:17:03.500 Yeah.
00:17:03.780 And in the midst of the,
00:17:05.060 you know,
00:17:05.540 primarily organized
00:17:06.560 around voter registration,
00:17:07.720 but in the midst
00:17:08.340 of the pandemic,
00:17:09.040 you know,
00:17:09.880 older Texans
00:17:10.920 were leaving
00:17:11.720 their volunteer shifts
00:17:12.700 at the food banks
00:17:13.500 because they were
00:17:14.540 more susceptible
00:17:15.480 to the virus.
00:17:16.600 Understandable,
00:17:17.480 our volunteers
00:17:18.280 filled tens of thousands
00:17:19.980 of man hours
00:17:20.900 at food banks
00:17:21.500 all across the state
00:17:22.420 of Texas
00:17:22.820 when the geniuses
00:17:24.440 in charge
00:17:25.060 in the next year,
00:17:26.020 2021,
00:17:27.220 could not keep
00:17:28.040 the power flowing
00:17:29.040 in the energy capital
00:17:30.000 of the world,
00:17:30.900 and the heat stopped running,
00:17:32.320 and the lights went off,
00:17:33.280 and the water pipes froze.
00:17:35.080 Our volunteers
00:17:35.680 made more than
00:17:36.340 a million phone calls
00:17:37.680 to seniors
00:17:38.540 across the state
00:17:39.220 of Texas.
00:17:40.120 We could have cared less
00:17:41.060 if they were Republicans
00:17:41.920 or Democrats
00:17:42.500 or independents,
00:17:43.500 but we connected them
00:17:44.700 to warming centers,
00:17:45.660 to resources,
00:17:46.560 to food,
00:17:47.560 to drinking water.
00:17:48.980 We raised nearly
00:17:49.800 a million dollars
00:17:50.720 to distribute
00:17:51.440 for local infrastructure
00:17:53.120 and communities
00:17:53.740 where their water systems
00:17:55.860 had broken,
00:17:56.720 where they needed help
00:17:57.680 immediately,
00:17:58.340 and could not wait
00:17:59.120 on Ted Cruz
00:18:00.220 to come back
00:18:00.740 from Cancun
00:18:01.420 or Greg Abbott
00:18:02.300 to actually focus
00:18:04.120 on the needs
00:18:04.960 that we had
00:18:05.400 at the time.
00:18:06.060 So this group
00:18:07.180 does a lot of great work,
00:18:08.660 and Gavin,
00:18:09.180 they're all volunteers,
00:18:10.100 okay?
00:18:10.660 So these are everyday Texans
00:18:12.540 who go through the trouble
00:18:13.740 of getting certified
00:18:14.920 and trained
00:18:16.040 as volunteer deputy registrars,
00:18:17.640 deployed out
00:18:18.300 to the places
00:18:18.920 where people need
00:18:20.020 to get registered
00:18:20.580 to vote,
00:18:21.040 and then do all this
00:18:21.920 other great work
00:18:22.880 for the people of Texas.
00:18:24.240 That is what is
00:18:25.180 being attacked right now.
00:18:26.220 That's the threat
00:18:27.000 that Ken Paxton,
00:18:27.880 Greg Abbott,
00:18:28.720 and Donald Trump
00:18:29.440 see in us.
00:18:30.080 American history
00:18:34.200 is full
00:18:35.720 of wise people.
00:18:37.780 What women said
00:18:38.440 something like,
00:18:39.100 you know,
00:18:39.260 99.99% of war
00:18:40.960 is diarrhea
00:18:41.680 and 1%
00:18:42.600 is gory.
00:18:44.120 Those founding fathers
00:18:45.240 were gossipy
00:18:47.400 AF,
00:18:48.240 and they loved
00:18:48.840 to cut each other down.
00:18:50.220 I'm Bob Crawford,
00:18:51.440 host of American History
00:18:52.760 Hotline,
00:18:53.540 the show where
00:18:54.320 you send us
00:18:55.020 your questions
00:18:55.620 about American history
00:18:56.760 and I find the answers,
00:18:58.580 including the nuggets
00:19:00.180 of wisdom
00:19:00.840 our history
00:19:01.660 has to offer.
00:19:02.980 Hamilton pauses
00:19:03.760 and then he says
00:19:04.740 the greatest man
00:19:05.900 that ever lived
00:19:06.480 was Julius Caesar
00:19:07.800 and Jefferson writes
00:19:09.440 in his diary
00:19:10.160 this proves
00:19:11.040 that Hamilton
00:19:11.600 is for a dictator
00:19:13.500 based on corruption.
00:19:15.220 My favorite line
00:19:16.160 was what Neil Armstrong
00:19:17.160 said,
00:19:18.040 it would have been
00:19:18.760 harder to fake it
00:19:19.900 than to do it.
00:19:21.360 Listen to American History
00:19:22.460 Hotline
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00:20:34.940 Have you ever wished
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00:24:08.780 A few years later
00:24:09.920 after you started
00:24:10.480 the organization,
00:24:11.360 obviously with the quorum
00:24:12.580 break in 2021
00:24:13.580 around electoral issues,
00:24:15.940 there was no $500,
00:24:17.260 my understanding,
00:24:17.960 there wasn't $500 fines
00:24:19.500 at the time
00:24:20.760 for breaking quorum.
00:24:22.040 Now that's established.
00:24:23.940 So these guys are all,
00:24:25.040 I mean, all your,
00:24:25.760 you know,
00:24:25.940 these are your friends
00:24:26.420 a lot of them.
00:24:28.260 There's 54
00:24:29.200 that are out of the state.
00:24:30.880 They're subject
00:24:31.620 to these fines
00:24:32.420 that have accrued,
00:24:33.240 what, over the last,
00:24:34.340 how many days?
00:24:36.200 Yeah, I mean,
00:24:36.500 I think we're approaching
00:24:38.060 two weeks here.
00:24:39.080 It's $500 a day
00:24:40.280 per person.
00:24:41.380 And these guys make what?
00:24:42.640 $600?
00:24:44.460 This is a full-time job
00:24:46.580 that pays
00:24:47.260 an extraordinary amount
00:24:48.620 of money
00:24:49.000 the legislature
00:24:50.000 in Texas
00:24:50.700 or not?
00:24:52.140 Is it not
00:24:52.820 a full-time job
00:24:53.860 and it doesn't pay
00:24:54.940 an exorbitant amount
00:24:55.900 of money?
00:24:56.180 They make $7,200
00:24:58.300 a year
00:24:59.120 for being state
00:25:00.720 legislators
00:25:01.200 in a state
00:25:02.640 of 31 million
00:25:03.920 people,
00:25:05.520 you know,
00:25:05.920 just behind California
00:25:07.120 as one of the largest
00:25:07.840 economies
00:25:08.320 on the planet
00:25:09.560 today.
00:25:10.720 Extraordinary challenges,
00:25:11.920 right?
00:25:12.160 You know,
00:25:12.560 Texas leads the nation
00:25:13.940 in school shootings
00:25:14.760 more than three years
00:25:15.720 after Uvalde.
00:25:16.640 There's 19 kids,
00:25:17.760 there's two teachers
00:25:18.400 who were slaughtered
00:25:19.000 in that classroom.
00:25:20.040 Nothing has changed.
00:25:20.920 And these Democratic
00:25:22.020 state legislators
00:25:22.780 are doing their best
00:25:24.000 within a very
00:25:25.340 challenging situation
00:25:26.480 to change that,
00:25:27.360 the minimum wage,
00:25:28.640 expanding Medicaid,
00:25:30.080 ensuring women
00:25:31.020 can make their own
00:25:31.720 decisions about
00:25:32.380 their own body
00:25:33.120 and their own future
00:25:34.000 and their own
00:25:34.500 health care.
00:25:35.640 And for trying
00:25:37.500 to do that,
00:25:38.860 they are,
00:25:39.400 as you pointed out,
00:25:40.040 being hunted down
00:25:41.060 in the words
00:25:41.800 of the governor
00:25:42.320 and the attorney general,
00:25:44.200 John Cornyn,
00:25:44.940 crowing that he's met
00:25:45.880 with Kash Patel
00:25:46.700 and they're going
00:25:47.000 to send the long arm
00:25:47.880 of the FBI
00:25:49.060 after them as well.
00:25:51.020 So this is what
00:25:51.960 they're up against.
00:25:52.780 And I just want everyone
00:25:53.980 to just understand
00:25:55.380 those 54
00:25:56.840 are one of the very
00:25:58.460 last lines of defense,
00:26:00.360 not just between us
00:26:01.920 and the theft
00:26:02.400 of these five
00:26:03.040 congressional districts
00:26:03.940 in Texas,
00:26:05.020 but between us
00:26:06.480 and a different form
00:26:07.620 of government
00:26:08.120 altogether.
00:26:09.060 My theory of the case,
00:26:10.180 Gavin,
00:26:10.400 and I want to hear yours
00:26:11.200 in response,
00:26:12.060 is that if we fail
00:26:13.980 to stop this
00:26:14.640 and if we fail
00:26:15.420 to win power
00:26:16.260 in 2026,
00:26:17.860 this consolidation
00:26:19.160 of authoritarian power
00:26:20.700 in the hands
00:26:21.600 of the president
00:26:22.180 is going to become
00:26:23.520 almost unstoppable.
00:26:25.020 I'll never say never
00:26:25.980 and I'll never stop fighting.
00:26:27.220 I know you won't either
00:26:28.160 and there are tens,
00:26:29.840 I hope hundreds
00:26:30.360 of millions of Americans
00:26:31.280 who are with us on this,
00:26:33.020 but they have
00:26:33.820 the Supreme Court,
00:26:34.860 if they have the House
00:26:35.640 and the Senate again,
00:26:36.800 the White House,
00:26:38.000 you know,
00:26:38.160 the tech billionaires,
00:26:39.360 all of these institutions
00:26:40.720 that are bending
00:26:41.240 the knee right now,
00:26:42.400 this fight becomes
00:26:43.660 so much harder.
00:26:45.500 So that's why
00:26:46.900 I'm so keyed up right now.
00:26:48.440 That's why we're fighting
00:26:49.180 so hard against Paxton
00:26:50.660 and these threats
00:26:51.280 of arrest and imprisonment
00:26:52.500 and all this bullshit
00:26:53.300 that they're trying
00:26:54.300 to lay on us right now
00:26:55.420 because if we don't succeed,
00:26:57.200 if we're found wanting
00:26:58.080 right now,
00:26:59.160 it is nearly impossible
00:27:00.920 in the next turn
00:27:02.380 after 2026.
00:27:03.420 But I'd love to hear
00:27:04.600 how you see things
00:27:05.660 from your perspective
00:27:06.840 in California
00:27:07.740 and you've met
00:27:08.800 with these Texas legislators,
00:27:10.040 you're meeting with people
00:27:10.940 across the country,
00:27:11.840 we've been watching
00:27:12.880 what you're doing.
00:27:13.940 How do you see
00:27:14.720 the terms of this fight
00:27:15.740 right now?
00:27:16.540 Well, let me just
00:27:17.020 in very pointed
00:27:18.600 and sober terms
00:27:19.620 distill the essence
00:27:21.020 of why I couldn't
00:27:22.480 agree with you more.
00:27:23.640 I received from
00:27:24.740 one of Trump's team,
00:27:26.480 one of his biggest supporters,
00:27:28.160 a 2028 Trump hat.
00:27:30.120 They're not screwing around.
00:27:31.640 When you talk about
00:27:32.280 a red carpet
00:27:32.780 or third term,
00:27:33.440 you're not exaggerating.
00:27:35.040 Everybody listening,
00:27:36.160 pay attention to this.
00:27:37.620 They're not making
00:27:38.180 this thing up.
00:27:39.220 Once a mind is stretched,
00:27:40.820 it never goes back
00:27:41.600 to its original form.
00:27:43.300 Trump throws things out,
00:27:45.000 sees what the reaction is,
00:27:46.720 and that Overton window
00:27:47.700 opens further and further,
00:27:49.140 wider and wider.
00:27:50.560 This is serious stuff.
00:27:52.180 Every single thing
00:27:53.240 you've said,
00:27:54.540 we need to reinforce.
00:27:57.220 And I want to reflect more
00:27:58.560 on what you've said
00:27:59.600 and unpack it
00:28:00.380 for people listening.
00:28:02.180 But I do not,
00:28:03.240 this is code red.
00:28:04.580 You've described it
00:28:05.360 as a pre-Civil War crisis.
00:28:07.160 I don't think
00:28:07.700 it's a gross exaggeration.
00:28:08.620 I don't think
00:28:08.920 it's exaggeration at all.
00:28:11.400 I mean,
00:28:11.800 the fact that
00:28:12.780 they're talking about
00:28:13.360 hunting people down,
00:28:14.420 using that language,
00:28:15.820 the fact that
00:28:16.420 a U.S. senator
00:28:17.080 who's running for re-election
00:28:18.860 against the same Paxton
00:28:20.060 that was impeached
00:28:21.100 by his own Republican colleagues
00:28:22.820 and desperate for attention
00:28:24.820 to get in on this,
00:28:26.340 calls the FBI director
00:28:27.640 and he somehow concurs
00:28:29.600 that the FBI
00:28:30.220 should be unleashed
00:28:31.060 on people
00:28:32.000 that are advancing
00:28:33.020 their own constitutional rights
00:28:34.160 of free speech.
00:28:35.280 A quorum,
00:28:35.620 that's as old as,
00:28:36.620 you know,
00:28:37.440 mom and apple pie
00:28:38.560 in America's system.
00:28:39.940 The minority
00:28:40.640 exercising their rights
00:28:42.120 against the tyranny
00:28:42.940 of the majority.
00:28:44.300 So this is real,
00:28:45.540 this is in every way
00:28:46.880 a petri dish
00:28:47.600 for what's happening.
00:28:48.900 But look,
00:28:49.780 I think the challenges
00:28:50.900 for all of us
00:28:51.700 is with all
00:28:52.840 the damn distractions
00:28:53.860 24-7,
00:28:55.640 how the hell
00:28:56.240 do we,
00:28:56.820 how do we avoid
00:28:58.380 being distracted
00:28:59.780 by these distractions?
00:29:01.980 To me,
00:29:02.520 this is the whole
00:29:03.380 damn game.
00:29:05.680 This is about
00:29:06.380 rigging the system.
00:29:07.640 This is the architecture
00:29:08.660 that makes everything
00:29:09.420 else possible.
00:29:10.520 You opened up
00:29:11.300 about what it's
00:29:12.180 really all about
00:29:13.700 as it relates
00:29:14.120 to health care
00:29:14.760 and tax cuts
00:29:15.520 and power,
00:29:16.460 not just parties.
00:29:17.920 But how the hell
00:29:18.900 do we keep people
00:29:20.160 focused on the essential?
00:29:22.540 What's happening
00:29:23.140 in your state
00:29:23.780 and I'll get to
00:29:24.260 what's happening
00:29:24.720 in my state
00:29:25.220 in a moment,
00:29:26.020 but my state of mind,
00:29:27.440 your state of mind
00:29:28.320 that I think
00:29:29.740 recognizes this moment
00:29:31.260 that we're in
00:29:31.960 and how perilous it is.
00:29:33.560 Yeah,
00:29:33.700 I think we show up
00:29:34.600 for people
00:29:35.120 and we get out there
00:29:36.500 and we fight
00:29:37.580 in every,
00:29:38.700 in any way we can.
00:29:40.520 We don't know
00:29:41.060 what's going to work,
00:29:41.940 but we know
00:29:42.520 what won't work.
00:29:43.300 If we sit back,
00:29:44.360 if we watch this,
00:29:45.080 if we hope,
00:29:45.560 if we pray,
00:29:46.580 if we expect someone
00:29:47.600 to come in
00:29:48.300 and ride to our rescue,
00:29:50.200 we're cooked.
00:29:51.120 I mean,
00:29:51.340 this thing is absolutely over.
00:29:54.580 You're a dad,
00:29:55.260 I'm a dad,
00:29:56.140 my conscience is my kids.
00:29:58.500 My greatest fear
00:29:59.380 is having to answer to them.
00:30:00.460 They're like,
00:30:00.780 hey dad,
00:30:01.480 when all this shit
00:30:02.120 was going down,
00:30:03.180 what the fuck did you do?
00:30:04.240 What were you guys thinking?
00:30:05.260 This guy promised you
00:30:06.240 he was going to be
00:30:07.000 a dictator on day one.
00:30:08.700 He told you
00:30:09.200 this was going to be
00:30:09.640 the last election
00:30:10.520 you would ever have
00:30:11.400 to vote in.
00:30:12.500 And then when he was
00:30:13.120 in office,
00:30:13.600 he defied the federal courts,
00:30:15.220 he dismantled
00:30:16.000 congressionally chartered
00:30:17.020 programs,
00:30:17.960 he covered up
00:30:18.740 for child sex traffickers,
00:30:20.400 he colluded
00:30:20.840 with corrupt public officials,
00:30:22.080 he dispensed
00:30:23.000 with every constitutional
00:30:24.180 safeguard,
00:30:24.880 including due process.
00:30:26.140 What did you guys do?
00:30:27.080 And I had better say,
00:30:28.340 you know,
00:30:28.480 and you had better say,
00:30:29.520 and everyone watching
00:30:30.460 had better say.
00:30:31.600 Not only did we do our best,
00:30:34.180 but we overcame
00:30:35.320 this challenge,
00:30:36.260 just as America
00:30:36.980 has overcome
00:30:37.560 every serious threat
00:30:38.980 before.
00:30:39.680 It wasn't easy,
00:30:40.780 it wasn't tough.
00:30:41.680 Some folks got locked up
00:30:42.720 in the process,
00:30:43.860 some people got hurt,
00:30:45.440 and it was the most
00:30:47.120 trying time of our life.
00:30:48.980 But we came through
00:30:49.980 because we knew
00:30:51.420 that there would be
00:30:52.260 a reckoning
00:30:52.780 and an accounting
00:30:53.540 from the generations
00:30:54.420 that follow.
00:30:55.480 I mean,
00:30:55.900 I can only imagine
00:30:56.760 the history books
00:30:57.740 written a hundred years
00:30:58.620 from now
00:30:58.920 looking at the people
00:31:00.080 of 2025.
00:31:01.820 It's the way,
00:31:02.620 you know,
00:31:02.960 you and I,
00:31:03.500 when we were in school,
00:31:04.160 we're looking at the people
00:31:05.020 in Germany in 1933.
00:31:06.740 That guy's named Chancellor
00:31:08.380 in January of that year
00:31:09.440 in 53 days.
00:31:11.200 He has destroyed
00:31:11.960 German democracy.
00:31:13.620 The parliament
00:31:15.020 or the Congress,
00:31:16.260 their legislature
00:31:17.020 passed these enabling laws,
00:31:18.660 just like the Republicans
00:31:19.620 are doing in Congress today
00:31:20.800 that said,
00:31:21.340 anything you want,
00:31:22.640 you go out and do it.
00:31:23.880 And he goes from being this,
00:31:25.000 buffoonish,
00:31:26.580 clownish thug
00:31:27.480 who can barely hold power
00:31:28.820 to the undisputed master
00:31:30.540 and dictator
00:31:31.200 of the German people.
00:31:32.840 And I know this shit
00:31:33.560 doesn't repeat,
00:31:34.780 but it sure is how it rhymes.
00:31:36.260 And we've got to be listening
00:31:37.220 to that right now
00:31:38.220 and acting with the urgency
00:31:39.940 that the moment demands from us.
00:31:41.940 And again,
00:31:42.760 I got to tell you,
00:31:43.440 I see you doing that right now.
00:31:45.260 I wish there were more
00:31:46.520 who were doing that.
00:31:47.660 I love what J.B. Pritzker
00:31:48.980 is doing in Illinois.
00:31:51.300 You know,
00:31:51.500 Kathy Hochul
00:31:52.140 has made some noise
00:31:53.280 in New York
00:31:53.820 that they're going to use
00:31:54.480 that power
00:31:54.960 they have there
00:31:55.640 to redistrict.
00:31:56.840 But Beto,
00:31:57.360 they need to use it.
00:31:58.580 I mean,
00:31:58.800 right now,
00:31:59.280 we're just,
00:31:59.700 forget the talking.
00:32:00.620 It's not about press.
00:32:01.480 I love those.
00:32:02.500 It's time to move.
00:32:03.780 You got to move.
00:32:04.820 I mean,
00:32:05.020 enough.
00:32:06.380 It's not,
00:32:06.960 I mean,
00:32:07.160 we're all saying
00:32:08.180 the right thing.
00:32:08.860 Now we got to do
00:32:09.560 the right thing,
00:32:10.420 which means we got
00:32:11.020 to fight fire with fire.
00:32:12.300 And back to your earlier question,
00:32:13.920 that's exactly
00:32:14.440 what we're doing.
00:32:15.160 We're going to,
00:32:15.820 later this week,
00:32:16.800 we're going to announce
00:32:17.380 the campaign.
00:32:18.420 Next week,
00:32:18.900 the legislature is going
00:32:19.740 to move this forward
00:32:20.640 with two-thirds.
00:32:21.920 We're going to get it
00:32:22.400 in a special election
00:32:23.320 on November 4th.
00:32:24.760 And we're going to fight
00:32:25.700 fire with fire.
00:32:26.760 We're going to neutralize
00:32:27.780 whatever Abbott does
00:32:28.940 next week
00:32:29.460 or whenever they move forward
00:32:30.820 the next special session.
00:32:32.320 We'll talk about that
00:32:33.120 in a second.
00:32:34.400 The likelihood
00:32:35.000 that they ultimately
00:32:35.920 will be successful
00:32:37.040 in Texas
00:32:37.960 and California
00:32:39.640 will move forward.
00:32:41.480 But we'll also,
00:32:42.760 hopefully,
00:32:43.160 inspire some other states.
00:32:45.060 There are many other
00:32:45.860 democratically-led states
00:32:47.200 that can move forward
00:32:49.000 and we just cannot
00:32:50.400 sit back passively.
00:32:51.980 And again,
00:32:52.280 it's not just Texas.
00:32:54.080 And forgive me,
00:32:54.740 I don't mean again.
00:32:55.700 Let's introduce that.
00:32:57.340 You've got the Vice President
00:32:58.180 of the United States
00:32:58.820 that was just sent out
00:32:59.900 not to console the families
00:33:01.720 of the 130, 140 plus
00:33:04.300 and maybe many, many more
00:33:05.900 that lost their lives
00:33:06.940 in the flood.
00:33:09.000 J.D. Vance was sent out
00:33:10.140 instead to Indiana
00:33:12.100 to begin the process
00:33:14.140 of redistricting there.
00:33:15.180 You've seen what is happening
00:33:16.780 in Florida,
00:33:17.900 what's already on autopilot
00:33:19.200 in Ohio.
00:33:20.760 They're hardly done here.
00:33:22.160 They're going to move.
00:33:23.440 They're going to run
00:33:23.900 the table on us.
00:33:25.160 They're rigging this election
00:33:26.160 in plain sight.
00:33:27.960 So this is back
00:33:28.720 to just code red.
00:33:29.920 We've got to move
00:33:30.520 from the rhetoric.
00:33:31.640 We have got to take action.
00:33:33.700 We've got to have your back.
00:33:34.900 We've got to have our kids back.
00:33:36.480 And I appreciate you
00:33:37.580 reminding us
00:33:38.340 you're 100% right.
00:33:40.000 No greater shame
00:33:41.080 than those kids
00:33:42.300 looking at us and saying,
00:33:43.040 where the hell were you, Dad?
00:33:44.900 No, no, no bullshit.
00:33:45.980 Don't tell me you didn't know.
00:33:47.360 Where the hell were you?
00:33:49.180 And I think that
00:33:49.900 for everybody,
00:33:50.760 that's the mark
00:33:52.080 of, you know,
00:33:53.520 that's the conscience
00:33:54.500 that we have to have
00:33:55.440 and we have to have
00:33:55.880 the character
00:33:56.460 now to stand tall
00:33:58.300 and have the conviction.
00:33:59.760 So, man,
00:34:00.180 I appreciate
00:34:00.760 what I love
00:34:01.840 about what you're doing
00:34:02.760 is
00:34:03.860 you're fighting
00:34:05.280 and you're on
00:34:06.720 your damn toes,
00:34:08.440 not on your heel.
00:34:10.760 And Beto,
00:34:11.240 this has been my issue
00:34:12.140 with my party
00:34:12.860 for the last
00:34:13.900 many years.
00:34:15.660 They're shape-shifting
00:34:16.820 everything.
00:34:18.260 We're constantly
00:34:19.220 responding to CRT,
00:34:20.780 DEI,
00:34:21.680 ESG.
00:34:22.860 I mean,
00:34:23.140 anything with three
00:34:24.060 damn letters,
00:34:25.100 IRS,
00:34:25.720 FBI,
00:34:26.320 when they want
00:34:26.820 to weaponize it,
00:34:27.880 EPA.
00:34:29.940 You know,
00:34:30.320 I love it.
00:34:31.600 You're saying,
00:34:32.120 you know,
00:34:32.600 we're going to punch
00:34:33.440 first.
00:34:35.240 And so,
00:34:35.880 forgive me,
00:34:36.400 I'm meandering here,
00:34:37.840 but the spirit
00:34:39.200 that you're bringing
00:34:41.000 to this fight
00:34:42.480 is the spirit
00:34:43.900 we need to bring
00:34:45.160 to every
00:34:45.880 damn fight
00:34:47.320 because that
00:34:48.100 Atlantic article
00:34:48.980 in January
00:34:49.900 that someone sent me
00:34:50.940 about the 53 days,
00:34:52.660 it scared the hell
00:34:53.860 out of me,
00:34:54.260 but I was honestly
00:34:55.060 timid to send it around
00:34:56.340 because anytime
00:34:57.580 you associate
00:34:58.240 anything with
00:34:59.420 what happened
00:34:59.940 in Germany
00:35:00.560 in the 30s
00:35:01.500 and Hitler,
00:35:02.040 everyone then
00:35:02.700 panics.
00:35:03.980 But that is a
00:35:04.740 must-read article
00:35:05.540 for anyone
00:35:06.340 that needs a little
00:35:07.260 brush-up
00:35:07.920 in their history lesson.
00:35:09.220 Everything you just said
00:35:10.360 is real.
00:35:12.080 It happened from within
00:35:13.340 and it happened
00:35:14.240 in 53 damn days.
00:35:15.980 We're just six months
00:35:17.600 in, Beto.
00:35:19.020 This guy's just
00:35:20.180 getting started.
00:35:22.580 Yeah,
00:35:22.680 that's right.
00:35:23.240 And just for those
00:35:24.300 who haven't read the article
00:35:25.240 or don't know this history,
00:35:26.660 over the course
00:35:27.320 of those 53 days
00:35:28.380 in 1933,
00:35:29.660 it wasn't as though
00:35:30.900 the German public
00:35:31.900 and the German politicians
00:35:32.880 were powerless.
00:35:33.720 The strength of that article
00:35:35.200 is that there were
00:35:35.780 so many opportunities
00:35:37.160 to stop this guy
00:35:38.500 that people passed on.
00:35:40.300 They thought the moment
00:35:41.660 to fight was down the road
00:35:43.180 or that the fight
00:35:43.840 wasn't important
00:35:45.300 or that this was just
00:35:46.680 going to be
00:35:47.140 a passing phase.
00:35:48.980 You kind of talked earlier
00:35:49.960 about normalizing this
00:35:51.100 and once the mind stretches,
00:35:52.600 it's hard to snap back
00:35:53.760 to our previous expectations
00:35:56.020 of how power is used.
00:35:57.740 But you said something else
00:35:58.640 that I really want to pick up on
00:36:00.660 about our own party,
00:36:02.120 which I fear
00:36:03.440 for too long
00:36:04.440 has been overly concerned
00:36:06.040 with being right
00:36:07.560 instead of being in power.
00:36:09.100 And what we've watched
00:36:10.180 is the rise
00:36:10.860 of a competing party
00:36:12.700 that is only concerned
00:36:13.720 about power.
00:36:14.380 It could care less
00:36:15.040 about being right
00:36:15.840 or being legal
00:36:16.580 or moral or ethical.
00:36:18.320 It is power.
00:36:19.460 And you pointed out
00:36:20.400 in 2021,
00:36:21.440 I was doing the exact
00:36:22.340 same things then
00:36:23.620 during a quorum break
00:36:24.680 where Democrats
00:36:25.340 left the state of Texas
00:36:26.380 as I am doing now.
00:36:27.880 There was no threat
00:36:28.720 to arrest me.
00:36:29.960 There were no charges
00:36:30.800 filed in the parent
00:36:31.720 county court.
00:36:32.300 There was no effort
00:36:33.100 to vacate their seats
00:36:34.140 or to hunt them down.
00:36:35.560 The reason is
00:36:36.480 because it's not about
00:36:37.320 the principle.
00:36:38.360 It is about the power.
00:36:39.380 And this is a word
00:36:39.960 of encouragement
00:36:40.460 to everybody.
00:36:41.140 I know we've been,
00:36:42.620 you know,
00:36:42.820 there's been some darkness
00:36:44.680 in this conversation,
00:36:45.840 which is just
00:36:47.440 an accurate reflection
00:36:48.540 of the conditions.
00:36:49.860 But I want to encourage
00:36:50.800 folks with this.
00:36:52.400 They are,
00:36:53.220 you know,
00:36:53.480 Trump,
00:36:54.240 Paxton,
00:36:54.860 Abbott,
00:36:55.280 the Republicans,
00:36:56.220 in full panic mode
00:36:58.080 right now.
00:36:59.200 These are signs
00:37:00.200 of desperation.
00:37:01.400 The reason
00:37:02.680 they're doing
00:37:03.140 all this
00:37:03.580 is they fully
00:37:04.840 understand
00:37:05.620 should they
00:37:06.740 not be able
00:37:07.740 to succeed
00:37:08.660 in this deal,
00:37:09.680 should they not
00:37:10.180 be able to hold
00:37:10.780 on to power
00:37:11.500 in the House,
00:37:12.620 there will be
00:37:13.060 a reckoning for them.
00:37:14.000 There will be
00:37:14.420 accountability.
00:37:15.380 There will be
00:37:16.060 a check on
00:37:16.960 their lawlessness.
00:37:18.300 And there will be
00:37:19.040 free and fair elections
00:37:20.340 as close as we can
00:37:21.160 get to it in America
00:37:22.160 in the 21st century
00:37:23.940 in 2028.
00:37:25.840 And so,
00:37:26.700 you know,
00:37:27.140 what's been chilling
00:37:28.180 for me,
00:37:28.660 Gavin,
00:37:28.980 is the near
00:37:30.320 or full impunity
00:37:31.720 with which they've
00:37:32.320 been acting,
00:37:32.860 accepting these bribes
00:37:34.120 the president has,
00:37:35.480 making these corrupt
00:37:36.340 deals.
00:37:37.120 It's as though
00:37:37.860 he knows
00:37:38.800 or thinks he knows
00:37:40.000 that there will
00:37:40.800 never be a moment
00:37:42.080 where he's accountable
00:37:43.440 or has to answer
00:37:44.680 for his crimes
00:37:46.280 or his corruption.
00:37:47.600 He's absolutely
00:37:48.360 betting on that.
00:37:49.160 And so,
00:37:49.740 that explains him
00:37:50.860 saying,
00:37:51.480 look,
00:37:52.140 folks,
00:37:52.480 I need five seats
00:37:53.620 in Texas.
00:37:54.700 Go get them for me.
00:37:55.500 No pretense
00:37:56.220 that the current seats
00:37:57.140 are unconstitutional
00:37:57.960 or unrepresentative.
00:37:59.320 He's just being
00:37:59.900 really clear,
00:38:00.740 which is a gift
00:38:01.380 to all of us
00:38:02.200 that this is about power.
00:38:04.180 And to your point,
00:38:05.060 our side better get
00:38:06.100 fucking serious
00:38:06.940 about power,
00:38:08.240 about winning it
00:38:09.380 and using it.
00:38:10.640 Mandela Barnes,
00:38:11.460 whom I just did
00:38:12.120 a town hall with
00:38:12.980 in Milwaukee
00:38:13.640 last week,
00:38:14.480 said,
00:38:15.180 when we win power,
00:38:16.520 we have to drive
00:38:17.320 the car like we stole it.
00:38:18.900 We have to do
00:38:19.800 everything for everyone
00:38:21.420 that we've been promising
00:38:22.640 these massive changes
00:38:24.160 in American society,
00:38:25.760 whether it is
00:38:26.340 the minimum wage,
00:38:27.380 whether it's rewriting
00:38:28.340 our immigration laws,
00:38:29.980 whether it is
00:38:30.440 dealing with this democracy
00:38:31.900 so that you can't spend
00:38:33.100 $300 million
00:38:33.960 on your preferred
00:38:35.240 presidential candidate
00:38:36.640 or that corporations
00:38:37.660 aren't people
00:38:38.760 and money is not speech.
00:38:39.820 So much work to do,
00:38:40.900 but we got to be
00:38:41.520 about winning that power
00:38:42.780 and then when we have it,
00:38:44.160 absolutely wielding it
00:38:45.500 ruthlessly,
00:38:46.500 aggressively,
00:38:47.560 ambitiously
00:38:48.160 to serve and deliver
00:38:49.700 for the American people.
00:38:50.660 We do that.
00:38:51.760 That is the best ticket
00:38:53.040 to growing that power,
00:38:54.420 staying in power,
00:38:55.600 and getting this country
00:38:56.380 back on the right track.
00:39:00.700 American history
00:39:01.660 is full
00:39:03.200 of wise people.
00:39:05.240 What women said
00:39:05.920 something like,
00:39:06.540 you know,
00:39:06.720 99.99% of war
00:39:08.420 is diarrhea
00:39:09.140 and 1% is glory.
00:39:11.580 Those founding fathers
00:39:12.700 were gossipy AF
00:39:15.560 and they loved
00:39:16.300 to cut each other down.
00:39:17.680 I'm Bob Crawford,
00:39:18.900 host of American History
00:39:20.240 Hotline,
00:39:21.020 the show where
00:39:21.780 you send us
00:39:22.500 your questions
00:39:23.080 about American history
00:39:24.220 and I find the answers,
00:39:26.540 including the nuggets
00:39:27.660 of wisdom
00:39:28.320 our history
00:39:29.120 has to offer.
00:39:30.500 Hamilton pauses
00:39:31.220 and then he says,
00:39:32.560 the greatest man
00:39:33.360 that ever lived
00:39:33.940 was Julius Caesar.
00:39:35.680 And Jefferson writes
00:39:36.920 in his diary,
00:39:37.980 this proves that
00:39:38.700 Hamilton is for
00:39:39.860 a dictator
00:39:40.960 based on corruption.
00:39:42.260 My favorite line
00:39:43.640 was what
00:39:44.020 Neil Armstrong
00:39:44.620 said,
00:39:45.480 it would have been
00:39:46.240 harder to fake it
00:39:47.360 than to do it.
00:39:48.840 Listen to American History
00:39:49.940 Hotline on the
00:39:50.800 iHeartRadio app,
00:39:52.300 Apple Podcasts,
00:39:53.540 or wherever
00:39:54.200 you get your podcasts.
00:39:55.840 What's up, guys?
00:40:01.300 Welcome to
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00:40:30.860 against Fuerzo,
00:40:31.540 you know,
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00:40:32.600 J.O.P. should be mad at me.
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00:41:02.520 Have you ever wished
00:41:03.440 for a change
00:41:04.060 but weren't sure
00:41:04.740 how to make it?
00:41:05.760 Maybe you felt stuck
00:41:06.640 in a job,
00:41:07.320 a place,
00:41:07.800 or even a relationship.
00:41:09.360 I'm Emily Tish Sussman
00:41:10.540 and on She Pivots,
00:41:11.760 I dive into
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00:41:13.720 of women
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00:41:21.600 And that's when I was like,
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00:41:49.320 Welcome to Pretty Private
00:41:50.980 with Ebene,
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00:41:53.680 is broken
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00:42:06.000 On Pretty Private,
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00:42:24.000 and killed in his house.
00:42:25.560 Yes, he was a drug dealer.
00:42:26.780 Yes, he was a confidential informant,
00:42:28.580 but he wasn't shot
00:42:29.500 on a street corner.
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00:42:31.260 in the middle
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00:42:34.600 unarmed.
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00:42:54.100 The summer of 1993
00:42:56.720 was one of the best
00:42:58.060 of my life.
00:42:58.660 I'm journalist
00:42:59.460 Jeff Perlman,
00:43:00.420 and this is Rick Jervis.
00:43:01.800 We were interns
00:43:02.560 at the Nashville,
00:43:03.480 Tennessee Inn,
00:43:04.300 but the most unforgettable part?
00:43:06.320 Our roommate,
00:43:07.160 Reggie Payne,
00:43:08.020 from Oakland,
00:43:09.100 sports editor
00:43:09.780 and aspiring rapper.
00:43:11.740 And his stage name?
00:43:13.380 Sexy Sweat.
00:43:14.780 In 2020,
00:43:15.600 I had a simple idea.
00:43:17.240 Let's find Reggie.
00:43:18.880 We searched everywhere,
00:43:20.040 but Reggie was gone.
00:43:21.480 In February 2020,
00:43:24.940 Reggie was having
00:43:25.580 a diabetic episode.
00:43:27.280 His mom called 911.
00:43:29.360 Police cuffed him face down.
00:43:31.280 He slipped into a coma
00:43:32.500 and died.
00:43:34.120 I'm like,
00:43:34.880 thanking you.
00:43:36.000 But then I see,
00:43:37.040 my son's not moving.
00:43:38.760 No headlines,
00:43:40.020 no outrage,
00:43:41.380 just silence.
00:43:43.200 So we started digging
00:43:44.080 and uncovered
00:43:45.080 city officials
00:43:45.880 bent on protecting
00:43:46.780 their own.
00:43:47.720 Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat
00:43:49.160 on the iHeartRadio app,
00:43:50.580 Apple Podcasts,
00:43:51.480 or wherever
00:43:52.560 you get your podcasts.
00:43:57.840 Is this the Beto O'Rourke
00:43:59.660 of 2018,
00:44:00.760 running for Senate
00:44:01.560 with no consultants?
00:44:03.200 I mean,
00:44:03.400 do you feel
00:44:04.400 like the times
00:44:05.660 have changed you
00:44:07.300 in a dramatic way?
00:44:08.560 Or do you feel
00:44:08.960 you always had
00:44:09.500 a little bit of this
00:44:10.200 in your belly,
00:44:11.680 but now you're coming
00:44:12.880 full-throated
00:44:14.260 in terms of recognition,
00:44:16.440 the lines that are drawn?
00:44:17.520 I mean,
00:44:17.760 do you feel like
00:44:18.920 that you've become
00:44:20.400 a different person
00:44:21.700 with this next,
00:44:23.280 with the last six months
00:44:24.580 with Trump 2.0?
00:44:25.980 Or was January 6th,
00:44:27.280 years ago,
00:44:28.260 did you sort of mark
00:44:29.240 that moment
00:44:29.820 as a new moment?
00:44:31.680 I think this moment
00:44:32.540 is calling me
00:44:33.460 like it's calling you,
00:44:34.500 like it's calling
00:44:35.060 so many millions
00:44:36.300 of our fellow Americans
00:44:37.220 to do everything I can
00:44:38.520 with what I have
00:44:39.460 wherever I am.
00:44:40.740 And one of the things
00:44:41.560 I can do
00:44:42.140 that I'm pretty good at
00:44:43.120 is bringing people together.
00:44:44.600 I mentioned Milwaukee.
00:44:46.220 We were in Indianapolis,
00:44:47.980 Kansas City, Omaha.
00:44:49.020 1,500 people came out
00:44:50.300 in Oklahoma City
00:44:51.560 15 months
00:44:52.440 from a fucking election.
00:44:53.900 You know,
00:44:54.120 not because they want
00:44:55.060 to support a candidate,
00:44:56.040 not one,
00:44:56.780 or because they're Democrats.
00:44:57.780 We didn't check
00:44:58.440 their party affiliation
00:44:59.300 at the door
00:44:59.840 because like you and me,
00:45:01.660 they really care about
00:45:02.700 what's happening
00:45:03.140 to this country right now
00:45:04.140 and they want to fight back.
00:45:05.600 And so in Oklahoma City,
00:45:06.780 we connected them
00:45:07.720 with the Oklahoma City
00:45:09.060 County Democratic Party,
00:45:10.400 with organizations
00:45:11.600 that are registering
00:45:12.240 people to vote,
00:45:13.060 with candidates
00:45:13.740 who are vying to win
00:45:15.660 that congressional seat
00:45:16.700 held by a Republican
00:45:17.540 right now,
00:45:18.240 but very winnable
00:45:19.300 for a Democrat,
00:45:20.640 especially if we organize
00:45:21.960 now in 2025.
00:45:23.840 So, you know,
00:45:24.520 I do think there's
00:45:25.660 a freedom of,
00:45:26.920 you know,
00:45:27.280 not thinking about
00:45:28.120 the title or an office
00:45:29.460 or being a candidate
00:45:30.300 or a campaign
00:45:31.160 and just doing the work.
00:45:32.980 And the work
00:45:34.040 is the most important
00:45:35.920 thing right now.
00:45:36.380 If it leads to
00:45:37.360 something else,
00:45:38.040 if it becomes obvious
00:45:39.520 that I can have
00:45:40.800 more of an impact
00:45:41.520 as a candidate,
00:45:43.040 absolutely,
00:45:43.800 unafraid of doing that.
00:45:45.240 But for now,
00:45:46.700 focusing on voter registration,
00:45:48.460 being in this fight
00:45:49.340 in Texas,
00:45:49.880 bringing others
00:45:50.480 across the country
00:45:51.260 into this fight
00:45:52.120 because Texas
00:45:52.760 is the front line,
00:45:54.560 the absolute epicenter
00:45:55.680 of this fight
00:45:57.160 for America,
00:45:58.880 that's the highest
00:46:00.140 and best use
00:46:00.940 of what I can give
00:46:01.760 and I'm just going
00:46:02.200 to keep doing it.
00:46:03.500 I love it.
00:46:03.820 You're reminding me
00:46:04.520 just a quote
00:46:05.740 that I love
00:46:06.240 of Justice Brandeis
00:46:07.160 in a democracy.
00:46:08.720 In a democracy,
00:46:09.440 the most important office
00:46:11.080 is office of citizen.
00:46:13.300 In this notion
00:46:13.980 of active,
00:46:14.940 not inert citizenship,
00:46:16.320 the fact that people
00:46:17.280 show up in Oklahoma City,
00:46:18.600 you've been doing rallies,
00:46:19.860 I think,
00:46:20.080 eight plus different states.
00:46:21.700 You're out there
00:46:22.600 in red states.
00:46:23.800 You're primarily
00:46:24.440 in rural parts
00:46:25.280 of even your own state.
00:46:27.120 In fact,
00:46:27.820 people are coming out
00:46:28.960 in these record numbers
00:46:30.020 means they haven't
00:46:31.000 given into the cynicism.
00:46:32.100 They haven't given
00:46:32.520 into the fear.
00:46:33.440 They're not giving up
00:46:34.320 and they're not rolling over
00:46:35.440 and I think
00:46:36.280 that fills me
00:46:37.720 with a tremendous
00:46:38.320 amount of optimism.
00:46:39.360 I know it does you as well
00:46:41.260 and puts a lot of,
00:46:42.700 you know,
00:46:42.900 just it gives us
00:46:43.760 just some confidence
00:46:45.020 that we're all not alone
00:46:46.840 and we're all in this together.
00:46:48.420 That said,
00:46:49.120 this Friday,
00:46:50.000 Beto,
00:46:50.740 my understanding
00:46:51.420 is this Friday,
00:46:52.440 just in a couple days,
00:46:53.820 this first special session
00:46:55.500 will end.
00:46:57.340 There'll be a question
00:46:58.260 for the 54 Democrats.
00:47:00.280 Do they come back
00:47:01.380 into the state?
00:47:02.620 Do they subject themselves
00:47:04.160 to arrest,
00:47:04.940 which in and of itself
00:47:05.880 is chilling
00:47:06.940 if they are indeed arrested?
00:47:09.620 And the likelihood,
00:47:11.100 and this is a question,
00:47:12.320 not a statement,
00:47:13.580 the likelihood,
00:47:14.320 it seems to me,
00:47:15.400 I'm curious,
00:47:16.240 your expectation is,
00:47:17.400 is that the governor
00:47:18.180 will immediately
00:47:19.440 call another special session
00:47:22.080 and at peril
00:47:25.540 that they leave the state again,
00:47:28.100 it likely will pass,
00:47:30.580 meaning we will likely
00:47:32.380 in the next month or so
00:47:34.120 or even sooner
00:47:35.680 see these five seats,
00:47:37.740 this mid-decade redrawing
00:47:39.700 of the map.
00:47:40.420 Is that an accurate assessment?
00:47:42.540 What do I know?
00:47:43.200 What don't I know
00:47:43.880 in respect to this?
00:47:45.280 Yeah,
00:47:45.880 I mean,
00:47:46.080 I think you're on top of this.
00:47:48.660 Just as we were going
00:47:50.020 into this interview,
00:47:51.420 someone told me
00:47:52.600 that Abbott
00:47:53.280 is going to dissolve
00:47:54.360 this current special session
00:47:55.760 so we can begin
00:47:56.420 the next one
00:47:57.240 right away,
00:47:58.360 maybe as soon
00:47:59.020 as Friday
00:48:00.040 or Saturday
00:48:00.700 or Monday.
00:48:01.920 For those
00:48:02.640 who want to fight this,
00:48:04.200 I encourage you
00:48:04.800 to join us
00:48:05.400 at the Texas Capitol
00:48:06.440 in Austin
00:48:07.220 this coming Saturday.
00:48:09.520 Governor,
00:48:10.120 we'd love to have you
00:48:10.800 join us as well.
00:48:11.680 I mean,
00:48:11.860 anyone who wants
00:48:13.720 to be in this fight
00:48:14.620 because this fight,
00:48:16.300 as you have articulated
00:48:17.840 so perfectly,
00:48:19.440 is not about Texas.
00:48:20.880 It's not about Texans.
00:48:22.100 It's about all 330 million
00:48:23.960 of us,
00:48:24.600 regardless of where we live.
00:48:26.220 This is the fight
00:48:27.960 for the future
00:48:29.060 of our country
00:48:29.700 and it's being decided
00:48:30.620 right now
00:48:31.700 as it happens
00:48:32.660 in the state of Texas
00:48:34.060 but also in California,
00:48:36.040 in Illinois,
00:48:37.120 everywhere that people
00:48:38.460 of good conscience
00:48:39.200 are willing to stand
00:48:40.340 and be counted
00:48:41.080 at this moment of truth.
00:48:42.740 So,
00:48:43.200 join us at the Texas Capitol
00:48:44.560 this Saturday
00:48:46.380 on the steps.
00:48:48.060 You know,
00:48:48.200 the more who show up,
00:48:49.640 the clearer the picture
00:48:50.860 to Abbott and Paxson
00:48:52.280 and Trump
00:48:52.940 that we will not bend the knee,
00:48:54.620 that we're going to stand
00:48:55.400 and fight.
00:48:56.220 They will not be able
00:48:57.120 to run roughshod
00:48:58.260 over the people of Texas
00:48:59.560 and steal our democracy.
00:49:01.080 They steal it here,
00:49:02.180 it is gone for the country.
00:49:04.640 So,
00:49:04.840 all in,
00:49:05.740 all together,
00:49:06.360 as Franklin warned us,
00:49:07.760 we're either going to hang together
00:49:08.740 or hang alone.
00:49:09.960 And I want to make sure
00:49:10.860 that all of us
00:49:11.480 hang together right now.
00:49:12.880 Thank you
00:49:13.540 for hanging with
00:49:14.940 those Texas Democrats,
00:49:16.240 for having them
00:49:16.920 in California,
00:49:17.740 for amplifying
00:49:18.960 their voices,
00:49:19.720 for encouraging people
00:49:21.480 who see
00:49:22.040 Tim Cook
00:49:23.060 genuflect
00:49:23.760 before Donald Trump,
00:49:25.560 like one of the most
00:49:26.060 powerful executives
00:49:27.180 on the fucking planet
00:49:28.700 and give him
00:49:29.440 a gold-plated
00:49:30.480 iPhone.
00:49:32.320 Others in these positions
00:49:33.600 that are prominent
00:49:34.680 and powerful
00:49:35.420 and wealthy
00:49:36.280 and have privilege
00:49:37.560 who actually have
00:49:38.680 the resources
00:49:39.540 to fight this fucker
00:49:40.820 and instead
00:49:41.840 are giving in,
00:49:42.900 it can tempt you
00:49:43.900 to despair.
00:49:45.160 But when folks
00:49:45.740 see you out there
00:49:46.420 fighting,
00:49:47.140 these 54 Democrats
00:49:48.260 in Texas fighting,
00:49:49.580 others fighting,
00:49:50.380 the folks who show up
00:49:51.220 this Saturday
00:49:51.760 at the Texas Capitol,
00:49:53.060 that is encouraging.
00:49:54.500 It gives us hope.
00:49:55.300 It's like,
00:49:55.540 you know what?
00:49:56.240 We can do this shit.
00:49:57.220 We are the people
00:49:57.860 who overcame
00:49:58.980 the British Empire,
00:49:59.840 the most powerful force
00:50:00.860 on the planet.
00:50:01.680 We defeated
00:50:02.300 the armies
00:50:03.100 of the Confederacy,
00:50:04.680 the divisions
00:50:05.140 of the Third Reich,
00:50:06.400 the armed elected thugs
00:50:07.760 of Jim Crow South.
00:50:08.600 We've overcome
00:50:09.020 every single one
00:50:10.060 of those challenges
00:50:10.720 over the last 249 years.
00:50:12.780 Now it's our turn.
00:50:13.500 We are so fucking lucky
00:50:16.380 to be alive at this moment.
00:50:18.060 So few American generations
00:50:20.080 have this chance
00:50:21.160 to save our country
00:50:22.480 at its moment of truth.
00:50:23.380 You and I
00:50:23.880 are lucky enough
00:50:24.780 to be here right now
00:50:25.740 with everyone else
00:50:26.620 who is alive.
00:50:27.760 And so what we do
00:50:28.560 with this inheritance,
00:50:29.500 everyone who's fought
00:50:30.440 every one of those battles
00:50:31.380 before,
00:50:32.340 it has come through to us.
00:50:33.720 It's going to define us
00:50:35.040 in the eyes of history.
00:50:36.380 It's going to determine
00:50:37.340 what is possible
00:50:38.160 for this country.
00:50:39.640 And it is ours
00:50:40.700 to lose right now.
00:50:42.060 So everyone into this fight
00:50:44.160 with all that you've got
00:50:45.340 wherever you are,
00:50:46.620 if we hang together,
00:50:47.920 if we come together right now,
00:50:49.220 if we fight together,
00:50:50.280 we are going to win this together.
00:50:51.940 I mean,
00:50:52.540 I'm going to end right there,
00:50:54.060 brother.
00:50:54.480 I love your passion.
00:50:56.500 Most importantly,
00:50:57.280 I love your action.
00:50:58.360 And I want to remind everybody,
00:50:59.900 you have agency.
00:51:00.880 We're not bystanders
00:51:01.760 in this world.
00:51:02.380 And it is about sharing
00:51:03.620 your passion
00:51:04.220 with action.
00:51:06.000 And I think
00:51:06.760 that's the most important thing
00:51:08.440 we need to communicate
00:51:09.520 with folks.
00:51:10.620 It's not good enough
00:51:11.460 to identify a problem.
00:51:13.040 It's not good enough
00:51:13.960 to,
00:51:14.980 as you began,
00:51:16.160 I thought so eloquently,
00:51:17.540 sort of sit back
00:51:18.380 and hope the guy
00:51:19.120 or gal on the white horse
00:51:20.080 is going to come save the day.
00:51:22.280 It's the person sitting there
00:51:23.520 in the morning
00:51:24.040 in the mirror.
00:51:25.460 And that's the person
00:51:26.480 we need right now.
00:51:27.740 People need to show up.
00:51:29.040 People need to exercise
00:51:29.800 their voice.
00:51:31.060 People need to share that
00:51:32.140 in authentic ways.
00:51:34.040 Beto O'Rourke,
00:51:34.680 thanks for all you're doing.
00:51:36.300 Powered by people.
00:51:38.040 Keep up the great work,
00:51:39.960 my friend.
00:51:40.700 Thank you so much, man.
00:51:42.100 Adios.
00:51:42.920 Thank you, brother.
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