This Past Weekend with Theo Von - October 09, 2025


#616 - Retired Boston Detective


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Kara Connelly is a retired Boston Police Detective who served 31 years on the force. She served in the Human Trafficking Unit and fought criminals in that world. We learned a lot about what it's really like to be a detective and a police officer in the Boston Police Department.

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00:00:00.000 It was even bad in America.
00:00:03.120 You know, I'm not home a lot.
00:00:05.400 You know, I can't keep a plant alive at the moment.
00:00:08.460 But when I am home, my bedroom is like my sanctuary.
00:00:12.440 You know, it's a sacred spot for sleep.
00:00:15.220 Thankfully, I have a Helix Sleep Mattress.
00:00:19.320 God, I like it.
00:00:20.660 I mean, I get on that thing and, ooh, baby girl,
00:00:24.060 before I know it, it's morning and I'm feeling good.
00:00:27.800 In fact, I like mine so much I got two of them.
00:00:30.520 I put one of them in the guest room over there
00:00:32.500 in case mom wants to come
00:00:34.020 and just launch some of her dirty dreams into that thing. 1.00
00:00:37.840 Because honestly, sleep matters more to me than ever.
00:00:41.320 Especially when I'm on the go.
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00:01:21.440 Before we begin, I'd like to say that
00:01:22.800 some of the conversation from today
00:01:24.540 is kind of graphic in nature.
00:01:27.440 We're talking about police work and detective work
00:01:29.640 and some of it's intense.
00:01:31.880 If those types of conversations are not for you,
00:01:35.300 then please make that choice for yourself.
00:01:38.100 Thank you.
00:01:39.860 Today's guest is a retired Boston police officer
00:01:43.060 and detective.
00:01:44.280 She had over 20 years on the force
00:01:46.720 before she joined the Human Trafficking Unit
00:01:49.380 and fought criminals in that world.
00:01:52.260 We learned a lot about what it's really like out there
00:01:54.660 and I want to thank her for her service.
00:01:58.080 Today's guest is Miss Cara Connelly.
00:02:00.940 Shine on me
00:02:04.640 And I will find a song
00:02:08.880 I've been singing
00:02:10.080 I'm gonna sing it
00:02:11.120 Yeah, my hair.
00:02:19.060 I've been losing some hair because of stress.
00:02:20.980 Yeah, it happens. 0.89
00:02:21.860 Sucks. 0.93
00:02:22.480 Yeah. 1.00
00:02:22.620 You just go in the sink and you got handfuls.
00:02:24.680 Yeah, you just wake up
00:02:25.820 and it looks like you look back
00:02:26.900 and you're like, oh, who was...
00:02:27.800 On your pillow?
00:02:28.160 Yeah.
00:02:28.480 Yeah.
00:02:28.880 It's gross.
00:02:29.400 Your pillow's got sideburns on it or something.
00:02:31.860 You know?
00:02:32.460 Your pillow's using a curling eye.
00:02:34.300 It's a mess, yeah.
00:02:35.580 Same.
00:02:35.880 That's way too much.
00:02:36.300 You've dealt with it?
00:02:37.120 Yeah.
00:02:37.660 In the past, yeah.
00:02:38.660 Yeah?
00:02:39.060 And was it stress from work?
00:02:41.120 Yeah, and other things
00:02:42.160 but the minoxidil definitely helps
00:02:43.860 because I called my doctor
00:02:44.920 and they're like,
00:02:45.260 oh, she can't see you for nine months
00:02:46.440 and I was like, 0.99
00:02:47.380 well, my fucking hair's falling out 0.99
00:02:49.040 and they're like, 0.99
00:02:49.380 well, you can see the nurse practitioner
00:02:50.520 in two months.
00:02:51.200 I was like, no.
00:02:52.160 So I went to one of those online things
00:02:53.600 and they sent me minoxidil
00:02:54.760 and like three months
00:02:55.900 I had little bald baby hairs
00:02:57.040 sprouting out and came back.
00:02:58.420 So it does help.
00:02:59.360 Yeah.
00:03:00.140 Yeah, yeah.
00:03:00.660 That's what I'm realizing.
00:03:01.520 I just gotta,
00:03:02.660 yeah, just taking some time
00:03:03.740 just to enjoy,
00:03:04.580 do things just that I enjoy.
00:03:06.060 That's what I'm,
00:03:06.680 that's like my focus right now
00:03:07.940 is just to do things that I enjoy.
00:03:10.800 Because I'll let added stress
00:03:12.440 stay on me as well, you know?
00:03:13.920 Yeah, of course.
00:03:14.680 That's what I'll do.
00:03:15.380 And it builds up.
00:03:15.680 Yeah, and not realizing
00:03:16.720 that everything's gonna be okay.
00:03:18.720 You know?
00:03:19.120 That's what my,
00:03:19.740 my boyfriend's here with us
00:03:20.840 and when I was nervous about today
00:03:22.240 and he's like,
00:03:22.800 it's all gonna be okay.
00:03:24.080 Yeah.
00:03:24.380 Yeah, it really is.
00:03:25.740 Like the platitudes.
00:03:27.140 Yeah, everything's gonna be okay.
00:03:29.320 Kara Connolly,
00:03:30.280 thank you so much for joining us.
00:03:31.320 You are a retired police officer
00:03:34.160 and detective from Boston.
00:03:36.160 That's correct.
00:03:36.920 And you were on the forces for 30?
00:03:40.540 31 years.
00:03:41.280 31 years.
00:03:41.980 Yeah.
00:03:42.380 And you started out in Dorchester, I think?
00:03:45.680 Yeah, when I graduated the police academy,
00:03:47.540 they send you to a couple different places
00:03:49.840 until you're on probation or whatever
00:03:51.680 and I went to a part of the city
00:03:52.820 called Dorchester.
00:03:53.780 Wait, probation?
00:03:54.880 They send?
00:03:55.180 So when you join the police department
00:03:56.960 and you go through the police academy
00:03:58.180 and then when you get out,
00:03:59.720 now they do it for a year
00:04:00.640 but when I did graduate it,
00:04:02.140 it was six months
00:04:02.920 and they have you,
00:04:05.300 you basically,
00:04:05.800 it's a probationary period
00:04:06.720 to see if you're,
00:04:07.940 you know,
00:04:08.500 good enough,
00:04:09.100 behave enough
00:04:09.680 or do the right thing
00:04:10.540 for like six months.
00:04:12.140 So they send you to a couple different places
00:04:13.580 like one busy district,
00:04:14.780 one quiet district.
00:04:15.900 So they start you
00:04:16.480 like a probationary period somewhere?
00:04:18.080 Yes.
00:04:19.160 And you might stay there
00:04:20.000 or they might move you
00:04:20.740 but that's how you're on probation
00:04:22.000 for six months
00:04:22.580 and then you're,
00:04:23.140 you know,
00:04:23.560 a full-time police officer after that.
00:04:25.300 Okay.
00:04:25.760 And what were those first years
00:04:27.080 on the force like?
00:04:28.860 Like in South Boston, was it?
00:04:30.880 Yeah.
00:04:31.240 So I was actually born in South Boston.
00:04:32.820 So I was in Dorchester
00:04:33.600 and then I was in South Boston.
00:04:34.860 South Boston at the time
00:04:35.660 was a quieter district.
00:04:36.740 Dorchester was very, very busy.
00:04:38.060 In the 90s was like,
00:04:39.380 in Boston was a ton of shootings
00:04:41.140 and gang stuff going on.
00:04:43.200 So comparatively speaking,
00:04:44.980 South Boston was a quieter place
00:04:46.540 to end up for several years.
00:04:48.400 And what were the demographics
00:04:49.560 of that area like
00:04:50.460 where you were servicing?
00:04:52.360 Kind of everywhere.
00:04:55.540 Dorchester's a different,
00:04:56.540 a different demographic
00:04:58.360 in South Boston population wise.
00:05:00.880 Now South Boston's very hip
00:05:02.020 and like it's all young kids.
00:05:03.440 But at the time I was there
00:05:04.400 it was like all just kind of families.
00:05:06.940 Pretty quiet place at the time
00:05:08.640 compared to other districts
00:05:09.480 were like, you know,
00:05:10.100 shooting every couple of days.
00:05:11.800 So. 0.94
00:05:11.960 And is it mostly white,
00:05:13.040 black, Latino, Asian?
00:05:15.200 Dorchester at the time
00:05:16.460 when I was first there
00:05:17.740 was a lot of black,
00:05:19.760 some white, some Asian.
00:05:21.840 And South Boston at the time
00:05:22.960 was mostly white,
00:05:24.300 but with some black and Latinos.
00:05:26.120 Got it.
00:05:26.920 And who are the people
00:05:28.060 they call Southies? 0.52
00:05:28.940 Because you hear that a lot.
00:05:30.300 Southies is not a thing.
00:05:32.120 You could say you're from Southie,
00:05:33.580 but it's not,
00:05:34.140 it's not,
00:05:35.480 it's not pluralized.
00:05:36.460 There's no S on the end of it.
00:05:37.800 But,
00:05:38.300 so I'm from Southie,
00:05:39.780 but I never said that growing up.
00:05:40.980 We always said South Boston.
00:05:41.900 But most people said I'm from Southie.
00:05:43.480 Okay.
00:05:44.240 It's just a nickname
00:05:45.060 for the part of town.
00:05:46.200 Right.
00:05:46.400 But so you're not like,
00:05:47.560 but do other people call you Southies
00:05:49.000 or the Southies?
00:05:50.100 No.
00:05:50.400 People from like out of the city
00:05:51.440 who hear about it
00:05:52.040 became popular
00:05:52.800 because it was in Goodwill Hunting,
00:05:54.180 it was in South Boston.
00:05:55.340 So that's kind of what put it on the map.
00:05:56.960 So when people started moving there
00:05:58.620 and didn't know any better,
00:05:59.600 that's how they would say it.
00:06:01.140 But people who grew up there
00:06:02.240 back in the 70s, 80s,
00:06:03.600 or whatever,
00:06:03.960 didn't say it like that.
00:06:05.300 That pub that they,
00:06:06.360 you know,
00:06:06.620 they filmed in
00:06:07.360 became like a big thing,
00:06:09.040 Elstree Tavern.
00:06:10.000 And that was like around the corner
00:06:11.740 from where I grew up.
00:06:13.200 And were the people there
00:06:14.000 distrustful of police at the time?
00:06:15.500 What was the relationship like between?
00:06:17.420 No.
00:06:17.760 People in Southie like the cops
00:06:19.500 compared to other parts of the city,
00:06:21.220 I think,
00:06:21.840 in my experience.
00:06:23.020 I mean,
00:06:23.220 it was a quiet place
00:06:24.020 when I worked there.
00:06:24.760 Most of the stuff that,
00:06:25.820 kind of good stuff that happened
00:06:27.380 or whatever,
00:06:28.180 crazier calls I've been on
00:06:29.380 happened when I was a detective.
00:06:31.120 Patrolman was pretty quiet.
00:06:32.680 Do you remember
00:06:33.280 one of your first like big,
00:06:34.560 like calls as a patrolman
00:06:35.860 that was like,
00:06:36.580 oh, this is real.
00:06:37.840 Like,
00:06:38.000 do you remember that,
00:06:38.680 like a first moment
00:06:39.600 where you're like,
00:06:39.980 this is pretty real?
00:06:40.860 Well, a lot of the calls,
00:06:41.920 it's funny,
00:06:42.320 a lot of the calls
00:06:43.000 when it comes in like,
00:06:44.420 you know,
00:06:44.640 person with the gun call,
00:06:45.840 like I still remember
00:06:46.400 my first person with the gun call, 0.96
00:06:47.880 I was shitting my pants
00:06:48.880 because I was like, 0.85
00:06:49.400 oh my God,
00:06:50.020 you know, 1.00
00:06:50.600 and it turned out to be bullshit. 0.99
00:06:51.900 It wasn't even real. 0.99
00:06:52.780 So,
00:06:53.340 a lot of the calls are like that.
00:06:54.540 You don't know they're fake
00:06:55.380 until you get there.
00:06:56.280 So,
00:06:56.520 you're like an adrenaline dump
00:06:57.800 in the car
00:06:58.320 and you're like,
00:06:58.700 oh my God,
00:06:59.060 this is real.
00:06:59.620 And I remember being like,
00:07:00.440 what am I going to do?
00:07:01.940 Nothing.
00:07:02.220 It was a big nothing burger.
00:07:03.340 Were you putting lipstick on
00:07:04.420 or what do you even do?
00:07:05.740 there was no lipstick
00:07:06.480 when I was a patrolman.
00:07:07.900 No.
00:07:08.320 Yeah,
00:07:08.520 like would you like powder up
00:07:09.460 your face a little bit
00:07:10.140 or something?
00:07:10.600 No,
00:07:11.360 no one powdered their face
00:07:12.440 on the way to a car.
00:07:13.320 That wasn't it.
00:07:14.100 No,
00:07:14.620 that wasn't a thing.
00:07:16.400 Yeah,
00:07:16.800 that's just in Charlie's Angels,
00:07:18.140 huh?
00:07:18.380 Yeah.
00:07:19.320 What was it like
00:07:19.980 being an officer
00:07:20.780 in the 90s
00:07:21.760 in that time period?
00:07:22.720 Like,
00:07:23.060 was that way different
00:07:23.920 than you think it is now?
00:07:25.280 Yes,
00:07:26.080 I think so.
00:07:26.740 I mean,
00:07:27.100 obviously,
00:07:27.680 the gang,
00:07:28.700 the rate of shootings
00:07:29.640 in Boston
00:07:30.140 was much higher than,
00:07:32.900 I forget what
00:07:33.560 the highest homicide rate
00:07:34.760 was in the early 90s.
00:07:35.900 It might have been like
00:07:36.560 150,
00:07:37.280 160 people.
00:07:38.560 Now Boston has like
00:07:39.520 35 a year.
00:07:41.020 So it was a big difference.
00:07:42.980 It's become much safer
00:07:44.420 whether everyone,
00:07:45.180 the gangs kind of aged out
00:07:46.540 and they all went to jail
00:07:47.560 or,
00:07:48.040 you know,
00:07:48.220 got shot
00:07:48.860 or moved on in life.
00:07:50.060 Whatever happened,
00:07:51.140 it became much safer,
00:07:53.260 I'd say.
00:07:53.660 Well,
00:07:53.780 there's no money
00:07:54.340 in being in a gang either.
00:07:55.520 I think a lot of people
00:07:56.120 are like,
00:07:56.420 oh, 0.97
00:07:56.540 this is a shitty business, 0.98
00:07:57.820 you know? 0.98
00:07:58.740 This says,
00:07:59.360 1990,
00:07:59.900 the homicide peak.
00:08:01.020 Boston's homicide count
00:08:02.060 hit an all-time high
00:08:02.880 of 152 cases
00:08:04.100 with much of the violence
00:08:05.460 concentrated among youth
00:08:06.600 and involving firearms.
00:08:10.120 The spike was driven
00:08:10.980 by gang violence,
00:08:11.820 crack cocaine epidemic
00:08:12.760 and easy access
00:08:13.920 to handguns.
00:08:15.020 Yeah,
00:08:15.360 so the 90s are a little
00:08:16.260 different than now
00:08:17.380 for sure.
00:08:18.520 Compared to then,
00:08:19.400 how do you feel like
00:08:20.040 police work is different
00:08:21.100 between now and then?
00:08:22.140 Do you have any thoughts
00:08:22.760 on that?
00:08:23.900 I don't know.
00:08:24.440 I mean,
00:08:24.660 the whole community policing
00:08:26.280 aspect started
00:08:27.660 when I was new,
00:08:28.820 so that's kind of
00:08:29.820 still progressed along.
00:08:31.040 What does that mean,
00:08:32.140 community policing?
00:08:33.680 Well,
00:08:33.940 that's what they call it.
00:08:35.020 At the time,
00:08:35.640 they had walking beats,
00:08:36.740 so when I got on,
00:08:38.280 you wouldn't be in a cruiser,
00:08:39.560 like you'd walk the neighborhood,
00:08:41.020 kind of like they do
00:08:41.580 in New York City.
00:08:42.860 They have people walking around,
00:08:43.820 there's not a lot of cruisers,
00:08:45.300 and so they would put people
00:08:47.020 in certain parts of the city.
00:08:48.260 Like when I got on,
00:08:49.020 for example,
00:08:49.640 and I worked in Dorchester,
00:08:50.720 I think there were like
00:08:51.360 seven or eight walking beats
00:08:52.460 up and down
00:08:52.960 like kind of the main street
00:08:54.180 in the town.
00:08:55.960 And now,
00:08:56.840 excuse me,
00:08:57.180 there's only a couple,
00:08:58.320 and they just put those on again,
00:08:59.740 so they're kind of trying
00:09:00.580 to get back to that.
00:09:03.060 So that was very different.
00:09:04.320 Like people who did
00:09:05.400 the walking beats full time
00:09:06.380 like knew everyone
00:09:07.000 in the neighborhood,
00:09:07.620 that was the whole purpose
00:09:08.460 is to get people
00:09:09.180 into the neighborhood
00:09:09.760 so people feel comfortable
00:09:10.760 speaking to the police.
00:09:11.980 Except the neighborhoods
00:09:12.700 where they put the walking beats
00:09:14.500 were usually the worst neighborhoods 0.99
00:09:15.500 and people didn't give a shit. 0.99
00:09:16.740 They didn't want to talk to us. 0.99
00:09:17.860 Oh, it didn't matter anyway.
00:09:18.900 No,
00:09:19.260 not the parts of the city
00:09:20.260 where they had them.
00:09:20.780 Now it's different.
00:09:22.700 They don't have as many
00:09:23.680 walking beats at all.
00:09:24.760 They push a lot
00:09:25.660 of the social media stuff
00:09:26.740 like the dancing cops 0.99
00:09:28.840 is the fucking worst. 1.00
00:09:29.820 It's so cringy. 0.99
00:09:31.120 And the department,
00:09:32.160 all the police departments
00:09:33.220 do that.
00:09:33.760 They put it out
00:09:34.320 to try to be like,
00:09:35.120 look,
00:09:35.420 we're excessive.
00:09:36.160 Oh, see,
00:09:36.600 it's so embarrassing.
00:09:38.380 Oh, I haven't even seen this.
00:09:40.000 It's just, 0.88
00:09:40.680 it's so goddamn cringy. 0.88
00:09:42.560 Are these real cops? 0.97
00:09:44.120 That's usually the,
00:09:45.380 I don't know about them.
00:09:47.080 Yeah,
00:09:47.260 it says they are.
00:09:49.020 Oh my God.
00:09:49.760 Well,
00:09:49.920 at least they can dance.
00:09:51.280 It's like when our department
00:09:52.800 puts it out,
00:09:53.440 it's like,
00:09:53.640 she's like,
00:09:53.880 right,
00:09:54.060 cop's like,
00:09:54.480 look,
00:09:54.640 we're playing basketball
00:09:55.460 with the kids
00:09:56.260 and you know,
00:09:57.060 let's all do,
00:09:58.120 especially during COVID.
00:09:59.180 It's just,
00:09:59.780 it's so cringy.
00:10:02.140 They just put it out
00:10:02.700 on the other day
00:10:03.320 from female women,
00:10:05.160 law enforcement day
00:10:06.340 and they had like women 0.67
00:10:07.300 dancing and some of my girlfriends
00:10:08.940 and I sent it back and forth.
00:10:10.140 Like this is so embarrassing.
00:10:10.980 Who wants to see,
00:10:11.640 dude,
00:10:11.820 the last thing I want
00:10:12.760 is my cop dancing over there.
00:10:14.540 Is that what you're looking for
00:10:15.440 when you call for help?
00:10:16.400 Someone to show up
00:10:17.000 and start dancing?
00:10:17.820 Like you want someone
00:10:18.620 who's gonna give you a hand.
00:10:21.380 It's just,
00:10:22.080 I know they're trying
00:10:22.680 to soften their image.
00:10:23.720 They don't want to look
00:10:24.220 like paramilitary anymore.
00:10:25.480 They want to look friendly
00:10:26.360 and not scary and whatever.
00:10:27.940 Whether it works
00:10:28.500 or not long-term,
00:10:29.240 I don't know.
00:10:29.880 Yeah.
00:10:30.500 You get promoted
00:10:31.100 to detective in 2005?
00:10:33.260 Seven, 2007.
00:10:34.060 2007, yeah.
00:10:34.600 Okay.
00:10:35.080 And what is,
00:10:35.860 what does it mean
00:10:37.100 to become a detective?
00:10:38.480 What does that mean exactly?
00:10:39.500 So to become a detective,
00:10:40.520 back then you had to take an exam.
00:10:42.040 So it's like a six month
00:10:43.160 to year long process.
00:10:44.520 You have to study
00:10:45.080 for several months
00:10:45.840 and there's like six
00:10:46.640 or seven textbooks
00:10:47.360 you have to read.
00:10:48.340 So you take the exam
00:10:49.220 and then they do kind of
00:10:50.020 like an oral interview
00:10:50.940 depending on how you score
00:10:52.380 on the test
00:10:52.920 and then they kind of combine
00:10:54.000 your years of training
00:10:55.480 and experience,
00:10:56.600 your test score
00:10:57.440 and your interview
00:10:58.420 to say,
00:10:59.040 okay,
00:10:59.180 these people have been
00:11:00.100 high enough score
00:11:00.740 to get made detective.
00:11:01.580 So, and then you do like
00:11:03.260 a month's worth of training
00:11:04.400 back at the police academy
00:11:05.560 to, because being a detective
00:11:08.000 versus a patrolman
00:11:09.300 is very, very different.
00:11:10.800 First of all,
00:11:11.320 you don't wear a uniform
00:11:11.960 which is my favorite part
00:11:13.100 but it's just
00:11:14.100 a completely different job.
00:11:15.280 Like you're now responsible.
00:11:16.540 Cop gets a call,
00:11:17.360 they go to the call,
00:11:18.160 they write a report
00:11:18.880 and that's the end of it
00:11:20.120 until they have to go to court.
00:11:22.060 If the report
00:11:23.020 that the cop writes about,
00:11:24.100 it gets assigned
00:11:24.760 to a detective
00:11:25.360 and now you own that.
00:11:26.860 Like, so you have
00:11:27.440 to follow through,
00:11:28.220 you have to follow up
00:11:29.100 and go to court
00:11:29.760 or take out criminal charges
00:11:31.060 or whatever.
00:11:32.160 So it's a very different job.
00:11:34.300 Is there a lot of lobbying
00:11:35.220 to become a detective?
00:11:36.440 Like whenever you're like
00:11:37.300 on the force
00:11:38.880 or people like,
00:11:39.580 I want to be detective
00:11:40.620 and then do people,
00:11:43.080 is there any way
00:11:43.680 to manipulate things
00:11:44.720 so it betters your chances
00:11:45.900 of becoming a detective
00:11:46.800 or is it not like that?
00:11:48.060 No, not like that.
00:11:48.840 So everyone,
00:11:49.600 if anyone's a patrolman
00:11:50.600 doesn't want to be
00:11:51.140 a patrolman for long.
00:11:52.180 I was a patrolman
00:11:52.720 for 13 years
00:11:53.400 which was a long time.
00:11:54.480 We had,
00:11:54.900 usually they do
00:11:55.500 the detectives exam
00:11:56.420 every two or three years.
00:11:57.860 For some reason
00:11:58.320 we had a seven year break
00:11:59.480 because I didn't take it.
00:12:00.400 I just had a child
00:12:01.260 and I was like,
00:12:02.200 I'll take the next one
00:12:03.080 in a couple years
00:12:03.660 and it was seven years.
00:12:04.980 So I was a patrolman
00:12:05.840 for a long time.
00:12:06.820 So people want-
00:12:07.920 It was seven years
00:12:08.300 to the next promotion?
00:12:09.080 Yeah,
00:12:09.460 to the next exam.
00:12:10.840 So it was a long wait.
00:12:12.720 But people want it
00:12:13.880 just because it's better
00:12:14.960 than being a patrolman.
00:12:16.000 Some people love
00:12:16.580 being a patrolman
00:12:17.280 and will do that
00:12:17.860 their entire life
00:12:18.720 but most people
00:12:19.520 either want to take an exam
00:12:20.700 and become a supervisor
00:12:21.680 like a sergeant,
00:12:22.940 a lieutenant
00:12:23.340 and keep kind of
00:12:23.900 going up the chain
00:12:24.620 or people are interested
00:12:26.240 in being a detective.
00:12:27.160 So it's definitely desirable.
00:12:30.320 Do you remember
00:12:30.960 an early case
00:12:31.640 as a detective
00:12:32.340 that really kind of
00:12:32.980 stood out to you?
00:12:34.280 Yeah,
00:12:34.700 I had a good arm robbery
00:12:35.600 once.
00:12:37.180 Hell yeah.
00:12:37.480 That sounds like
00:12:38.060 an oxymoron,
00:12:38.680 a good arm robbery.
00:12:39.360 That's great.
00:12:39.840 A little good arm robbery.
00:12:41.060 It was on Halloween
00:12:42.200 which is always
00:12:43.540 one of the worst days
00:12:44.320 of the year to work.
00:12:45.620 Fourth of July, 0.99
00:12:47.260 Halloween sucks. 1.00
00:12:48.340 They're always crazy. 0.99
00:12:49.700 But we had an arm robbery 0.61
00:12:50.520 of a cell phone store
00:12:52.060 in the morning.
00:12:52.720 It was in the morning.
00:12:53.500 It was like 930 in the morning.
00:12:54.700 The store just opened up
00:12:55.780 and these two dudes
00:12:57.080 went in
00:12:57.540 and there was some girl, 0.97
00:12:58.660 a young girl,
00:12:59.360 early 20s
00:13:00.080 working there by herself. 0.87
00:13:01.400 It was in a shitty 0.93
00:13:02.100 part of town 0.96
00:13:02.920 and they literally
00:13:04.500 tied her up
00:13:05.180 with like telephone cord
00:13:06.420 around her wrists
00:13:07.480 and her ankles 1.00
00:13:08.020 and they stole
00:13:08.880 it was like 800 bucks
00:13:10.260 or 785 dollars
00:13:11.700 whatever it was.
00:13:14.040 But the feds
00:13:14.960 ended up taking it
00:13:15.740 because it was T-Mobile
00:13:17.200 and they can kind of
00:13:18.680 loop in the
00:13:19.580 Commerce Act
00:13:21.680 like by saying
00:13:22.260 because commerce
00:13:23.200 was halted
00:13:23.880 with other states
00:13:24.760 it becomes like
00:13:25.460 a federal case.
00:13:26.660 But the guys ran off
00:13:27.920 and the girl,
00:13:28.600 it was like something
00:13:29.120 out of a movie.
00:13:29.860 It was all on video.
00:13:30.640 She literally
00:13:31.480 hopped over to the phone
00:13:33.280 all tied up
00:13:33.960 with her ankles 1.00
00:13:34.580 and they put a gun 0.99
00:13:35.340 to her head 0.99
00:13:35.640 and everything.
00:13:36.160 It was two firearms
00:13:36.880 and she was terrified
00:13:38.180 and they
00:13:39.040 she hopped over
00:13:40.460 to the phone
00:13:41.100 and like knocked it
00:13:41.940 off with her head 1.00
00:13:42.700 and was like
00:13:43.080 calling for help.
00:13:44.640 At least she's in
00:13:44.960 a phone store though
00:13:45.880 like at least like
00:13:46.580 but she was able
00:13:48.220 to do that
00:13:49.000 and then it came in quick
00:13:50.220 so a couple of the guys
00:13:51.440 from work
00:13:52.100 everyone
00:13:52.960 I worked with the best
00:13:54.720 people on earth
00:13:55.320 in Dorchester.
00:13:56.040 They really were
00:13:56.700 great great cops
00:13:57.880 and they just kind of
00:13:58.920 flood the area
00:13:59.600 right away
00:14:00.220 and the description
00:14:00.900 is going out
00:14:01.640 and one of the officers
00:14:02.780 is actually one of my
00:14:03.660 police academy classmates
00:14:04.560 ends up seeing
00:14:05.920 these two guys
00:14:06.620 walking down the street
00:14:07.700 and a description
00:14:09.140 had been given out
00:14:09.620 to clothing
00:14:09.980 they left like a trail
00:14:11.240 of clothing down the street
00:14:12.380 they tried to drop everything
00:14:13.600 and change their appearance.
00:14:15.520 It's hard to run
00:14:16.020 and change at the same time.
00:14:17.080 Yeah so they
00:14:17.340 they were just kind of
00:14:18.300 yeah walking down the street
00:14:19.480 and really nice
00:14:20.100 it's actually a little teeny
00:14:21.060 there's a nice neighborhood
00:14:22.020 in this bad section of town
00:14:23.680 so they kind of stuck out
00:14:25.380 and but then he sees
00:14:26.540 the trail of clothing
00:14:27.920 jackets and hats 0.97
00:14:29.280 and shit left behind 0.99
00:14:30.440 so he called it in. 1.00
00:14:31.900 These guys
00:14:32.320 one of them had on gloves
00:14:33.500 but the other one
00:14:34.060 had band-aids
00:14:34.840 and tape around his fingers
00:14:35.960 so he wouldn't leave
00:14:36.740 any fingerprints
00:14:37.660 and as the guys
00:14:38.820 everyone went up there
00:14:40.100 the patrolman
00:14:40.620 were talking to him
00:14:41.400 he notices them
00:14:42.540 only they're picking away
00:14:43.480 to try to get the
00:14:44.380 the band-aids
00:14:45.280 and tape off their hands
00:14:46.340 and then another officer
00:14:47.540 in the area was searching
00:14:48.400 she's looking in trash cans
00:14:49.640 and she found the guns
00:14:50.760 and then someone found
00:14:52.220 the box
00:14:52.600 the money box
00:14:53.280 so it was
00:14:53.840 that was it
00:14:55.280 that was a pretty good one.
00:14:56.480 That was an exciting one.
00:14:57.540 Yeah
00:14:57.760 it was just
00:14:58.320 it came together nicely
00:14:59.360 everyone worked
00:15:00.180 like did so well together
00:15:01.480 everyone was like
00:15:02.200 everyone was there
00:15:02.920 at the right time
00:15:03.640 to do the right thing
00:15:04.600 and then the feds took it
00:15:06.120 and they had
00:15:06.620 they had serious criminal records
00:15:07.920 both of them
00:15:08.300 one of them
00:15:08.700 been doing armed robberies
00:15:09.560 all over the city.
00:15:10.520 It was like the same guy
00:15:11.640 hit like five or six places
00:15:13.060 so we were glad to get him
00:15:15.300 they got
00:15:15.700 because it was federal
00:15:16.580 they got like 20 something years each
00:15:18.300 one of their brothers
00:15:19.400 was a truck driver
00:15:20.660 and he
00:15:21.920 that's how they got the guns
00:15:22.980 he was a cross-country truck driver
00:15:24.580 and he would
00:15:24.960 he bought guns in Arizona
00:15:26.200 and then brought them back here
00:15:27.880 so that's what made it federal
00:15:29.360 is that they were transporting guns
00:15:30.500 across state lines
00:15:31.200 I think
00:15:32.500 they didn't end up
00:15:33.540 prosecuting him
00:15:34.760 because he basically testified
00:15:36.340 against his brother
00:15:37.420 but what made it
00:15:38.520 such a big
00:15:39.300 what made the
00:15:39.980 sentencing so severe
00:15:41.320 because they were
00:15:42.100 the way the feds do it 1.00
00:15:44.080 in federal court
00:15:44.860 is
00:15:45.180 they basically
00:15:46.660 add up
00:15:47.500 it's a point system
00:15:48.640 and depending on how many
00:15:49.660 charges or cases
00:15:51.060 how many times
00:15:51.620 you've been found guilty
00:15:52.360 then you're considered
00:15:53.320 an armed career criminal
00:15:54.180 and you get extra time
00:15:56.020 added on
00:15:56.560 oh got it
00:15:57.120 but yeah
00:15:57.880 for 785 bucks
00:15:59.720 they went to jail
00:16:00.300 for like 20 something years each
00:16:01.600 it was crazy 1.00
00:16:02.240 it's idiots 1.00
00:16:03.760 yeah 1.00
00:16:04.440 pretty much
00:16:05.700 and that poor girl 1.00
00:16:06.780 was terrified
00:16:07.440 I always felt bad for her
00:16:08.680 yeah
00:16:09.100 oh that would be so scary dude
00:16:12.080 I don't know what I would do
00:16:13.200 if someone did something like that
00:16:14.380 like pulled
00:16:14.780 like you know
00:16:15.460 she didn't even want to identify them
00:16:16.720 we were trying to do like a
00:16:17.800 we do a bring back
00:16:18.780 or show up your bring
00:16:19.480 because we brought them to say
00:16:20.980 have her identify them
00:16:22.560 and she was like
00:16:23.380 hiding behind the blinds
00:16:24.780 in the store
00:16:25.180 we usually
00:16:25.680 they'll have them like
00:16:26.560 go out on the sidewalk
00:16:27.680 and the person will like
00:16:28.700 look through her car window
00:16:29.680 but she was literally hiding
00:16:30.860 she was absolutely terrified
00:16:31.920 the poor thing 0.66
00:16:32.420 she's crying and everything
00:16:33.500 how important are fingerprints
00:16:35.840 is that a real thing
00:16:36.720 how important is that
00:16:37.560 when you were a detective
00:16:38.320 well that's a real thing
00:16:39.820 because everyone's are different
00:16:40.840 yeah
00:16:41.200 so if you get found at a scene
00:16:43.240 whether it's a break-in
00:16:44.420 or a robbery
00:16:46.540 or something like that
00:16:47.640 and they find
00:16:48.460 your fingerprints
00:16:49.220 well
00:16:49.860 what other excuse
00:16:52.020 do you have for being there
00:16:53.000 so it's a pretty good
00:16:54.080 especially now people
00:16:55.220 like in court
00:16:55.940 when cases go to court
00:16:56.940 they don't want witness identification
00:16:58.280 they want
00:16:59.860 because all the CSI shows
00:17:01.620 they think we all have
00:17:02.560 this bags of evidence
00:17:03.720 to show
00:17:04.260 when it comes to court
00:17:05.400 so
00:17:05.740 juries want to see
00:17:07.800 forensics
00:17:08.460 they want fingerprints
00:17:09.320 they want like
00:17:10.080 cell phone records
00:17:10.800 they want DNA
00:17:11.720 left behind
00:17:12.400 because of the TV shows
00:17:13.440 makes it look like
00:17:14.140 that's left at every scene
00:17:15.480 but
00:17:15.760 these guys covered
00:17:16.960 their fingerprints
00:17:17.520 they had masks on
00:17:18.980 like they put
00:17:19.600 you know bandanas
00:17:20.300 around their face
00:17:21.140 but the girl identified them
00:17:23.040 from the clothes
00:17:24.340 one of them didn't have
00:17:25.040 a mask on
00:17:25.600 so fingerprints
00:17:26.180 are definitely
00:17:26.920 very important
00:17:27.680 and what's the process
00:17:28.740 of actually lifting fingerprints
00:17:29.940 what is that
00:17:30.320 and you hear the term
00:17:31.100 lifting fingerprints
00:17:31.900 so different surfaces
00:17:33.320 use different tools
00:17:35.480 like this surface
00:17:36.660 the grain of the wood
00:17:37.720 would be no good
00:17:38.280 you need like a smooth surface
00:17:39.600 like they train us
00:17:40.840 on like granite
00:17:41.700 like countertops
00:17:43.140 oh yeah granite's nice
00:17:44.080 it's very smooth
00:17:45.400 it's shiny
00:17:46.100 so if someone leaves
00:17:47.120 a fingerprint
00:17:47.600 you have
00:17:48.100 or whether you have
00:17:48.660 dry or oily hands
00:17:49.660 you're leaving oil behind
00:17:51.400 and you could take
00:17:52.220 your powder
00:17:53.020 and you spin the little powder
00:17:54.180 on like a smooth surface
00:17:55.300 and literally
00:17:55.980 the fingerprint pops
00:17:57.080 and then you just take
00:17:57.880 this kind of
00:17:58.540 clear square
00:18:00.120 of like sticky
00:18:00.840 tape
00:18:01.720 and then like
00:18:02.320 press it down
00:18:03.160 and then lift it up
00:18:03.960 so it transfers
00:18:04.640 onto
00:18:05.340 the outline transfers
00:18:06.560 onto
00:18:06.960 there you go
00:18:08.380 can there be
00:18:09.200 fingerprints in a place
00:18:09.960 like could you look
00:18:10.640 at a counter or something
00:18:11.360 and see nothing
00:18:12.160 and there could actually
00:18:12.900 be fingerprints there
00:18:13.660 yeah you can kind of
00:18:15.300 if you use a flashlight
00:18:16.140 sometimes you can see it
00:18:17.260 if it's a clean surface 0.93
00:18:18.400 if it's like a shithole house 0.73
00:18:19.920 or filled like 0.99
00:18:20.520 bank robberies
00:18:21.860 we don't do fingerprints
00:18:22.640 because so many people
00:18:23.720 go up to every teller
00:18:24.860 like even if a bank robber
00:18:26.220 comes in
00:18:26.620 and puts his hands down
00:18:27.780 there's 10,000 other
00:18:30.080 fingerprints there
00:18:30.700 from the people
00:18:31.200 that came before you
00:18:32.080 right
00:18:32.360 so they don't
00:18:33.540 we don't bother
00:18:34.120 with something like that
00:18:35.080 because you have to be able
00:18:36.080 to show it's a suspect
00:18:37.060 so they won't like
00:18:37.860 put it into the system
00:18:38.760 to see who it even belongs to
00:18:40.300 could a surface be so dirty
00:18:42.100 that then the print itself
00:18:43.360 actually makes it clean
00:18:44.580 and that
00:18:45.060 you know what I'm saying
00:18:45.860 yes on dirty windows
00:18:47.000 we get those on a break-in
00:18:48.220 when they push up
00:18:49.240 push up a window
00:18:50.340 and leave them behind
00:18:51.480 and you can literally
00:18:52.160 see them
00:18:52.960 because you can see
00:18:53.540 sometimes they'll smear the dirt
00:18:54.860 sometimes it's so dirty though
00:18:56.440 the dust won't
00:18:57.800 the dust won't adhere to it
00:18:59.500 got it
00:18:59.980 what's a person
00:19:01.960 who picks up the fingerprints
00:19:02.840 what do they call that person
00:19:03.980 well we do it
00:19:05.660 detectives do it
00:19:06.400 oh detectives do it
00:19:07.000 they do it in Boston
00:19:07.660 yeah
00:19:08.020 some in other places
00:19:08.940 like the crime scene tech
00:19:10.020 will come out
00:19:10.560 in other departments
00:19:11.820 but we do it ourselves
00:19:13.040 unless it's like
00:19:13.740 a major incident
00:19:14.460 like a homicide
00:19:15.080 then the homicide unit
00:19:16.720 will call the forensic unit
00:19:17.980 like
00:19:18.320 and they'll
00:19:19.120 those
00:19:19.440 those are civilians
00:19:20.440 they're not police officers
00:19:21.520 but they'll have
00:19:22.240 they have gone to school for that
00:19:23.520 so if it's like a major
00:19:25.060 you know
00:19:25.560 like I said
00:19:26.560 a homicide
00:19:26.980 they'll call in the crime scene
00:19:28.160 techs to do it
00:19:28.740 they don't want to
00:19:29.320 mess with us
00:19:30.480 and you ever have a day
00:19:31.380 where it's just busy
00:19:32.000 and you're like 1.00
00:19:32.260 oh shit 1.00
00:19:32.640 I gotta get to my kid's birthday 0.99
00:19:33.820 or whatever 0.98
00:19:34.120 I'm gonna fucking just 0.98
00:19:34.940 we'll hope for the best of us 0.98
00:19:36.400 when you take off 0.99
00:19:37.080 yeah it sucks 0.98
00:19:37.700 like you could be 0.98
00:19:38.380 your shift ends at 4 o'clock
00:19:39.660 if you work days
00:19:40.400 and at 345
00:19:41.640 someone
00:19:42.160 a person's stabbed
00:19:43.320 alright I won't be home
00:19:44.800 until midnight
00:19:45.300 so
00:19:45.720 oh you say
00:19:46.420 oh so you stay
00:19:47.180 you stay
00:19:48.140 oh yeah
00:19:48.880 I was saying like
00:19:49.700 have you ever had a thing
00:19:50.380 where it's like
00:19:50.940 I gotta get out of here
00:19:52.420 you know
00:19:52.740 instead of doing the work
00:19:54.060 instead of dusting
00:19:54.820 for these fingerprints
00:19:55.740 I'm gonna hit the road
00:19:56.480 you know
00:19:56.740 you can't do that
00:19:57.300 you can't
00:19:57.720 no
00:19:58.020 it's on you
00:19:58.880 it's your case
00:19:59.900 if you're on call
00:20:01.860 we call it catch day
00:20:02.840 in Boston
00:20:03.500 but detectives
00:20:04.260 like certain squads
00:20:05.260 are in charge
00:20:06.320 of all those calls
00:20:07.060 that day
00:20:07.520 so
00:20:08.100 you know
00:20:09.080 five things could come in
00:20:10.120 we could get a shooting 0.58
00:20:11.000 a stabbing 0.98
00:20:11.580 an armed robbery
00:20:12.200 and you know
00:20:13.640 missing person
00:20:14.260 and they're all assigned
00:20:15.120 to you
00:20:15.560 but it's not that busy
00:20:16.880 but it can be
00:20:18.260 you might have a day
00:20:19.220 like you don't even go pee
00:20:20.420 you don't even eat lunch
00:20:21.780 I mean it's few and far between
00:20:23.140 but it definitely happens
00:20:24.300 wow
00:20:25.040 so you're just cruising like that
00:20:26.140 yeah
00:20:26.460 how much
00:20:27.880 you mentioned television
00:20:28.640 a little bit ago
00:20:29.040 how much is television
00:20:30.340 and what people think
00:20:31.580 and expect
00:20:32.080 how much has that affected
00:20:33.320 like the prosecution of cases
00:20:34.860 ruined it
00:20:35.520 absolutely destroyed it
00:20:36.580 yeah
00:20:36.840 because everyone has
00:20:37.820 such high expectations
00:20:38.820 if they watch you know
00:20:39.960 CSI Miami
00:20:40.740 or whatever the hell it is
00:20:42.020 and see they solve
00:20:43.300 everything instantly
00:20:44.220 and they have
00:20:46.260 cooperative witnesses
00:20:47.040 or they have all these
00:20:47.980 piles of evidence
00:20:48.920 and like I said
00:20:49.860 people in
00:20:50.420 because of that
00:20:51.400 people in regular juries
00:20:53.000 and regular court cases
00:20:54.120 expect
00:20:54.620 oh
00:20:55.200 they literally come back
00:20:56.720 with no saying
00:20:57.320 why don't you have fingerprints
00:20:58.600 why don't you have DNA
00:20:59.840 like why don't you have that
00:21:01.100 well not every case has that
00:21:02.800 like I said
00:21:03.240 a bank robbery comes in
00:21:04.300 they don't touch the counter
00:21:05.220 we have no DNA
00:21:06.260 we have no fingerprints
00:21:07.420 we have to go on
00:21:09.360 eyewitness identification
00:21:10.460 and videos now everywhere
00:21:11.740 videos huge
00:21:12.680 videos are huge help
00:21:14.080 but it's definitely
00:21:14.780 the shows have been
00:21:15.520 a detriment to
00:21:16.320 prosecuting cases for sure
00:21:18.500 so you think it's made
00:21:19.300 that the shows have made it
00:21:20.840 harder to prosecute cases
00:21:21.740 absolutely
00:21:22.200 because people have
00:21:23.100 higher expectations
00:21:24.020 the juries do
00:21:24.920 the juries do
00:21:25.440 and they're like
00:21:25.860 oh there's not enough here
00:21:26.760 yes
00:21:27.140 they'll be like
00:21:27.640 you don't have anything
00:21:29.320 where is everything
00:21:30.500 it's like
00:21:31.000 well we have
00:21:31.540 you know
00:21:32.000 we've got the video
00:21:32.780 and we've got this and that
00:21:33.660 and like no
00:21:34.240 so it's tricky
00:21:35.700 yeah
00:21:36.080 it's not been our friend
00:21:37.540 it's fascinating
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00:24:15.920 like the
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00:24:17.100 first 48
00:24:17.780 right
00:24:18.180 and my
00:24:19.320 friend
00:24:19.500 Chris D'Elia
00:24:19.960 he's a
00:24:20.300 comedian
00:24:20.580 he's
00:24:21.220 he has this
00:24:22.020 great joke
00:24:22.460 he's like
00:24:22.780 the first
00:24:23.540 48
00:24:23.980 and I'm
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00:24:25.040 he's like
00:24:25.360 the first
00:24:25.980 48
00:24:26.360 it's like
00:24:26.800 these detectives
00:24:28.400 have 48
00:24:28.980 hours to
00:24:29.500 solve the
00:24:29.920 crime
00:24:30.260 but really
00:24:30.820 they have
00:24:31.220 as much
00:24:31.600 time as
00:24:31.980 they want
00:24:32.340 yeah
00:24:32.560 they do
00:24:33.460 we do
00:24:34.060 you know
00:24:34.600 sometimes
00:24:35.020 you're waiting
00:24:35.460 on video
00:24:36.020 like it
00:24:36.500 doesn't
00:24:36.840 obviously
00:24:37.240 if you
00:24:37.580 don't have
00:24:37.960 a suspect
00:24:38.360 like right
00:24:38.940 away
00:24:39.340 but if
00:24:42.320 you work
00:24:42.700 at it
00:24:43.000 sometimes
00:24:43.380 the evidence
00:24:44.020 is out
00:24:44.340 that you
00:24:44.560 just have
00:24:44.780 to find
00:24:45.140 it
00:24:45.260 it might
00:24:45.480 not
00:24:45.680 slap 0.97
00:24:46.100 you in 1.00
00:24:46.320 the face 0.89
00:24:46.680 10 minutes
00:24:47.200 after the
00:24:47.660 incident
00:24:48.020 right
00:24:48.400 but do you
00:24:49.080 really only
00:24:49.500 have 48
00:24:49.980 hours
00:24:50.300 no
00:24:50.500 we have
00:24:51.240 all the
00:24:51.520 time you
00:24:51.840 need
00:24:52.120 except
00:24:52.440 it gets
00:24:54.760 busy
00:24:55.200 and if
00:24:55.720 I have
00:24:56.140 you know
00:24:56.400 three cases
00:24:57.020 that day
00:24:57.620 and if
00:24:58.160 like I
00:24:58.440 gotta work
00:24:58.900 on it
00:24:59.320 and then
00:24:59.680 two days
00:25:00.100 from now
00:25:00.560 I get
00:25:01.000 another big
00:25:01.540 one
00:25:01.820 like a
00:25:02.560 shooting
00:25:02.860 or a
00:25:03.200 stabbing 0.60
00:25:03.540 or whatever 0.95
00:25:03.900 now your
00:25:05.600 attention
00:25:06.940 is split
00:25:07.520 so time
00:25:08.920 is of the
00:25:09.340 essence
00:25:09.900 because something
00:25:10.600 else is always
00:25:11.360 gonna happen
00:25:11.840 something's
00:25:12.820 coming
00:25:13.140 and whether
00:25:13.640 you have
00:25:14.100 a leisurely
00:25:15.000 amount of
00:25:15.380 time to
00:25:15.800 work on
00:25:16.120 the case
00:25:16.540 like then
00:25:17.220 you're working
00:25:17.520 overtime
00:25:17.860 then you're
00:25:18.260 working a
00:25:18.600 double
00:25:18.820 to try
00:25:19.240 to stay
00:25:19.560 and work
00:25:19.840 on this
00:25:20.180 case
00:25:20.500 because another
00:25:21.320 one could
00:25:21.600 come in
00:25:21.880 tomorrow
00:25:22.160 so it is
00:25:23.180 this point
00:25:25.180 to it
00:25:25.520 like the
00:25:25.840 40 ads
00:25:26.160 are important
00:25:26.760 but I think
00:25:28.020 more so
00:25:28.420 because something
00:25:28.980 else is coming
00:25:29.580 so it's gonna
00:25:30.460 take the
00:25:31.080 attention away
00:25:31.780 and then you
00:25:32.340 can only be
00:25:33.020 in so many
00:25:33.780 places at once
00:25:35.140 you know what I
00:25:35.700 mean
00:25:35.860 you can't
00:25:36.320 you can't
00:25:36.660 yeah I
00:25:37.520 never thought
00:25:38.280 about that
00:25:38.660 part of it
00:25:39.300 how do you
00:25:40.280 prioritize what
00:25:40.940 cases are most
00:25:41.560 important
00:25:42.040 I mean
00:25:45.200 obviously
00:25:45.580 like if someone
00:25:46.320 gets shot
00:25:46.880 or stabbed 0.99
00:25:47.520 like that's
00:25:48.160 a violent
00:25:48.960 crime
00:25:49.620 and you
00:25:49.860 want that
00:25:50.260 person
00:25:50.660 who
00:25:50.880 it's
00:25:51.280 more
00:25:51.800 defendant
00:25:52.300 based
00:25:52.600 like the
00:25:52.920 kind of
00:25:53.260 person
00:25:53.560 that's gonna
00:25:53.940 do that
00:25:54.480 you want
00:25:55.040 them
00:25:55.380 off the
00:25:56.000 streets
00:25:56.240 right
00:25:56.560 right
00:25:56.960 and if
00:25:58.000 you know
00:25:58.500 compared to
00:25:59.500 you know
00:26:00.340 identity
00:26:00.780 fraud
00:26:01.220 well
00:26:01.720 that's not
00:26:02.820 an emergency
00:26:03.420 that can
00:26:04.300 wait
00:26:04.660 you know
00:26:04.980 what I
00:26:05.100 mean
00:26:05.200 so those
00:26:05.660 kind of
00:26:06.080 like
00:26:06.260 because we
00:26:06.520 get a ton
00:26:07.040 of fraud
00:26:07.440 check fraud
00:26:08.820 and all that 0.98
00:26:09.260 shit 1.00
00:26:09.460 bank fraud 1.00
00:26:09.880 it's a nightmare
00:26:10.400 because it's
00:26:11.380 a lot of
00:26:11.740 the times
00:26:12.000 it's not even
00:26:12.400 taking place
00:26:13.000 we have our
00:26:13.660 victims in
00:26:14.160 our city
00:26:14.560 but suspects
00:26:15.380 are all
00:26:15.860 over the
00:26:16.160 country
00:26:16.420 or all
00:26:16.760 over the
00:26:17.040 world
00:26:17.320 so you
00:26:17.880 can't
00:26:18.060 prosecute
00:26:18.540 them
00:26:18.800 so it's
00:26:20.200 hard to
00:26:20.520 chase down
00:26:20.900 so those
00:26:21.300 are kind
00:26:21.660 of
00:26:22.300 to the
00:26:22.940 victim
00:26:23.200 it's not
00:26:23.600 a lower
00:26:23.840 priority
00:26:24.240 they're the
00:26:24.600 one that
00:26:24.940 had their
00:26:25.280 money stolen
00:26:25.940 or whatever
00:26:26.780 but it's not
00:26:27.920 the same as
00:26:28.440 being shot
00:26:29.000 or stabbed
00:26:29.620 or having
00:26:30.220 a criminal
00:26:30.860 that's out
00:26:31.420 there
00:26:31.560 violent
00:26:31.920 armed
00:26:32.160 robbery
00:26:32.540 or something
00:26:33.100 like that
00:26:33.560 we gotta find
00:26:33.720 this guy
00:26:33.980 now
00:26:34.120 because obviously
00:26:34.620 they're in
00:26:35.000 heat for
00:26:35.380 crime
00:26:35.720 yes
00:26:36.080 exactly
00:26:36.560 wow
00:26:37.440 so are there
00:26:38.340 days when you
00:26:39.060 kind of get to
00:26:39.560 the end of your
00:26:40.100 shift almost
00:26:40.840 and you look
00:26:41.500 and you're like
00:26:42.120 oh my god
00:26:42.660 there's still
00:26:43.040 that one
00:26:43.480 missing person
00:26:44.180 I didn't reach
00:26:44.640 out about
00:26:45.020 or there's still
00:26:45.400 this one thing
00:26:45.940 it's always a
00:26:46.400 pile
00:26:46.660 and now I have
00:26:47.240 to go do
00:26:47.600 that
00:26:47.940 yeah
00:26:48.280 oh
00:26:49.040 you very rarely
00:26:50.300 get to go home
00:26:50.960 at the end
00:26:51.400 of your shift
00:26:52.840 you're always
00:26:53.840 staying
00:26:54.140 and how
00:26:55.920 what's that effect
00:26:56.920 like on your
00:26:57.780 home life
00:26:58.340 like were you
00:26:58.700 able to have
00:26:59.140 kind of a
00:26:59.460 home life
00:26:59.860 like what was
00:27:00.260 that like
00:27:00.560 for you
00:27:00.840 yeah I mean
00:27:01.140 it makes it
00:27:02.320 trickier for sure
00:27:03.140 you need help
00:27:04.100 at home
00:27:04.500 it definitely
00:27:04.960 makes it more
00:27:05.500 difficult
00:27:05.840 and were you
00:27:06.960 able to have
00:27:07.240 a family
00:27:07.540 except you have
00:27:07.940 children
00:27:08.240 yeah
00:27:08.820 nice
00:27:09.560 oh your daughter's
00:27:10.460 here
00:27:10.620 my daughter's
00:27:11.220 here
00:27:11.440 oh nice
00:27:11.800 I forgot
00:27:12.140 yeah
00:27:12.480 I didn't
00:27:12.900 forget
00:27:13.280 but I think
00:27:14.120 I just didn't
00:27:14.480 know if she
00:27:14.740 wanted to say
00:27:15.220 it or not
00:27:15.540 maybe too
00:27:16.040 so yeah
00:27:17.260 so yeah
00:27:18.180 how do you
00:27:18.520 manage that
00:27:20.300 was that
00:27:21.020 it's tricky
00:27:21.520 it was difficult
00:27:22.140 it was
00:27:22.620 not a lie
00:27:22.920 it was
00:27:23.360 it was hard
00:27:23.840 yeah
00:27:24.160 because if
00:27:24.940 you're expected
00:27:25.520 to come home
00:27:26.040 I get you
00:27:26.400 to help them
00:27:26.860 with that
00:27:27.220 project
00:27:27.720 or
00:27:28.120 just gotta make
00:27:29.020 supper
00:27:29.340 and you have
00:27:30.420 to call
00:27:30.700 and be like
00:27:31.080 I'm not
00:27:31.400 I'm not gonna
00:27:32.120 make it
00:27:32.520 someone got
00:27:33.060 stabbed
00:27:33.520 or I gotta 0.61
00:27:33.880 stay late
00:27:34.380 a lot of
00:27:34.680 times you know
00:27:35.220 you're gonna
00:27:35.580 be like okay
00:27:36.280 those days I know
00:27:37.880 I can stay
00:27:38.340 late because
00:27:38.920 I have coverage
00:27:39.660 with the kids
00:27:40.120 or whatever
00:27:40.500 yeah
00:27:41.060 but it's
00:27:42.100 it's not easy
00:27:43.060 but at least
00:27:43.940 you had a good
00:27:44.520 excuse
00:27:45.160 yeah
00:27:45.900 I mean I
00:27:46.300 wasn't
00:27:46.560 you know
00:27:47.160 getting my nails
00:27:47.820 done
00:27:48.180 or getting 0.99
00:27:48.960 shit faced 0.99
00:27:49.620 but 0.99
00:27:49.940 yeah I'm getting
00:27:50.400 my nails done
00:27:51.300 or I'm getting
00:27:51.700 yeah
00:27:52.040 I'm working
00:27:52.880 yeah
00:27:53.420 at least
00:27:54.080 it wasn't like
00:27:54.800 yeah I'm drinking
00:27:55.540 or something
00:27:56.060 or Euclid is on
00:27:57.040 third base
00:27:57.700 I can't
00:27:58.160 you know
00:27:58.500 I'm not gonna
00:27:59.760 be home
00:28:00.520 on time
00:28:01.280 yeah
00:28:01.480 do you start
00:28:02.780 to see where
00:28:03.440 family life suffers
00:28:04.560 do you see it
00:28:05.300 like you know
00:28:06.580 because that's also
00:28:07.120 a common theme
00:28:07.740 in a lot of
00:28:08.160 like police
00:28:09.920 serial programming
00:28:11.260 and films
00:28:11.980 and stuff
00:28:12.400 where the detective
00:28:13.660 is working late
00:28:14.460 and then there's
00:28:14.980 the family thing
00:28:15.700 starts to suffer
00:28:16.460 you know
00:28:16.920 I mean I'm sure
00:28:18.040 it did
00:28:18.420 but like I said
00:28:20.160 you've kind of
00:28:21.060 figured it out
00:28:21.620 you make it work
00:28:22.440 you do what you can
00:28:23.200 like I was a detective
00:28:24.180 in a busy part
00:28:25.320 of the city
00:28:25.820 and that's why
00:28:26.520 I transferred
00:28:26.860 to the human
00:28:27.340 trafficking unit
00:28:28.120 because that was
00:28:28.920 like a Monday
00:28:29.760 through Friday job
00:28:30.560 not a rotating
00:28:31.360 schedule
00:28:31.820 because I worked
00:28:32.480 holidays
00:28:32.900 we worked
00:28:33.300 every Christmas
00:28:33.840 you got a holiday
00:28:34.600 off every six years
00:28:36.640 so every
00:28:37.580 but you'd get
00:28:38.080 all the holidays
00:28:38.680 off that year
00:28:39.300 so that year
00:28:39.820 you're getting
00:28:40.260 you know
00:28:40.620 excuse me
00:28:41.420 you're getting
00:28:41.700 Easter
00:28:42.160 excuse me please
00:28:43.700 Thanksgiving
00:28:44.220 Christmas
00:28:45.000 New Year's
00:28:45.520 you'll get
00:28:45.780 all the biggies
00:28:46.340 off
00:28:46.680 but then it's
00:28:47.580 six more years
00:28:48.200 until you get
00:28:48.700 another one
00:28:49.180 so I went
00:28:51.380 to human trafficking
00:28:52.040 drink some water
00:28:52.540 real quick
00:28:52.860 you're good
00:28:53.760 horrific
00:28:54.580 sorry miss 0.99
00:28:55.260 you are
00:28:55.920 I don't want to
00:28:58.100 tell you what to do
00:28:58.700 anything
00:28:58.940 thank you for your
00:28:59.620 service
00:28:59.920 that's what I'm saying
00:29:00.540 so it's six
00:29:02.220 so that
00:29:02.520 wow
00:29:02.840 that's wild
00:29:03.960 so that time
00:29:04.960 you get to spend
00:29:05.400 with your family
00:29:05.800 it's really crucial
00:29:06.600 yeah especially
00:29:07.840 holidays
00:29:08.260 you know
00:29:08.700 but if you're
00:29:09.040 working different
00:29:09.500 shifts
00:29:09.800 if you're
00:29:10.060 working the
00:29:10.360 midnight shift
00:29:10.900 you can kind
00:29:11.400 of go home
00:29:11.780 and start
00:29:12.120 sleep for a couple
00:29:12.660 hours
00:29:13.040 and then
00:29:13.560 meet everybody
00:29:14.920 at Thanksgiving
00:29:15.480 so that's how
00:29:16.920 Boston worked
00:29:17.520 obviously different
00:29:18.260 cities do different
00:29:19.040 things
00:29:19.320 we just had
00:29:19.840 six squads
00:29:20.540 rotating days
00:29:21.620 off
00:29:21.940 but some units
00:29:23.260 like the human
00:29:23.720 trafficking unit
00:29:24.380 is Monday through
00:29:24.980 Friday
00:29:25.260 so it's a little
00:29:25.820 more normal
00:29:26.320 if you have
00:29:26.780 young kids
00:29:27.340 or a family
00:29:27.860 and you want
00:29:28.320 to be a regular
00:29:29.280 person as I call it
00:29:30.280 and have Saturday
00:29:30.760 and Sunday off
00:29:31.360 like everybody else
00:29:32.220 those units are
00:29:33.720 better for something
00:29:34.700 like that
00:29:35.240 got it
00:29:35.660 and I know
00:29:36.160 you ended up
00:29:36.660 in that unit
00:29:37.000 I want to talk
00:29:37.540 to you about
00:29:38.020 that in just a second
00:29:38.700 take me through
00:29:39.420 a couple more
00:29:39.900 detective calls
00:29:40.820 that were
00:29:41.380 interesting to you
00:29:42.840 or that really
00:29:43.640 stood out
00:29:44.280 I'd say
00:29:46.240 I always
00:29:46.900 my joke was
00:29:47.740 I was going to
00:29:48.260 be that I was
00:29:48.600 going to write
00:29:48.960 a book
00:29:49.340 and the name
00:29:49.980 of it was
00:29:50.260 going to be 0.76
00:29:50.620 Dick on the
00:29:51.240 Sidewalk
00:29:51.840 and other
00:29:52.420 stories from
00:29:52.980 the street
00:29:53.420 the last few
00:29:54.700 years I was
00:29:56.640 a detective
00:29:57.100 I got like
00:29:57.720 three of the
00:29:58.140 craziest cases
00:29:59.000 of my life
00:30:00.540 in year 31
00:30:02.340 we had someone
00:30:06.200 the guy cut off 1.00
00:30:06.960 his own dick 1.00
00:30:07.700 and threw it 1.00
00:30:08.880 on the sidewalk
00:30:09.500 oh for what
00:30:10.480 because he was 0.93
00:30:11.340 he was crazy 1.00
00:30:12.100 he was mentally ill 1.00
00:30:13.180 but we don't know
00:30:13.800 any of this
00:30:14.380 so the call
00:30:14.960 came in
00:30:15.560 in the morning
00:30:16.260 I was on the way
00:30:16.820 in it was early
00:30:17.380 in the morning
00:30:17.760 it was cold out
00:30:18.560 I remember that
00:30:19.260 oh yeah
00:30:19.940 I have the radio
00:30:20.500 on and I hit
00:30:21.580 the dispatcher
00:30:22.340 call a car
00:30:22.840 and then start
00:30:23.340 to laugh
00:30:23.940 and then she
00:30:24.820 says disregard
00:30:25.520 we don't know
00:30:26.860 what's happened
00:30:27.240 so I'm driving
00:30:27.820 to the station
00:30:28.380 and then a call
00:30:28.860 comes in again
00:30:29.580 sending a different
00:30:30.320 car because it
00:30:30.920 was like the
00:30:31.280 midnight shift
00:30:31.860 ending
00:30:32.620 sending a different
00:30:33.880 car hey can you
00:30:34.820 go to this
00:30:35.280 location
00:30:35.720 someone said
00:30:36.280 there's a
00:30:36.600 some mail
00:30:37.140 and a piece
00:30:37.620 of mail
00:30:38.040 anatomy
00:30:38.460 on the sidewalk
00:30:39.360 and we were
00:30:39.880 all laughing
00:30:40.220 we thought it
00:30:40.720 was we thought 0.94
00:30:41.860 it was a dildo 0.85
00:30:42.400 we thought it 0.87
00:30:42.700 was a joke
00:30:43.100 that's why
00:30:43.440 the dispatcher
00:30:44.140 was laughing
00:30:44.680 you just thought
00:30:45.160 it was like
00:30:45.360 a WNBA game
00:30:46.260 or whatever
00:30:46.640 it wasn't green
00:30:48.220 call comes in
00:30:49.960 like 10 minutes
00:30:50.600 later
00:30:50.940 and my detective
00:30:52.220 that I was working
00:30:52.740 with at the time
00:30:53.180 looked it up
00:30:53.680 on the computer
00:30:54.240 to see the text
00:30:55.020 of the call
00:30:55.560 like what does
00:30:56.160 this actually say
00:30:57.080 and then we saw
00:30:58.500 that the caller
00:30:59.080 was from
00:30:59.700 a nearby health
00:31:00.720 center
00:31:01.020 and it said
00:31:02.200 there's you know
00:31:02.880 it appears to be 0.99
00:31:03.900 a penis on the ground 0.99
00:31:04.680 there's blood 1.00
00:31:05.140 everywhere
00:31:05.500 we're like 0.99
00:31:05.840 oh shit 0.99
00:31:06.380 that's not fake 0.99
00:31:08.180 so the patrolmen
00:31:11.480 go up there
00:31:12.180 and so that's
00:31:13.080 our starting point
00:31:13.840 we don't know
00:31:14.260 anything else
00:31:14.900 and literally
00:31:15.560 there it is
00:31:16.220 I wasn't there yet
00:31:17.040 the patrolmen
00:31:17.640 see it on the sidewalk
00:31:18.540 and there's a blood trail
00:31:19.840 so they start following
00:31:21.180 the blood trail
00:31:21.860 and it went
00:31:22.480 it went a long way
00:31:24.180 several hundred yards
00:31:25.300 and it gets worse
00:31:26.380 and worse
00:31:26.880 so it
00:31:27.860 that's how it starts
00:31:28.800 so that's our starting point
00:31:30.160 and the patrolmen
00:31:30.840 follow the blood trail
00:31:31.760 and then they're following it
00:31:32.600 up the stairs
00:31:33.160 of this three family house
00:31:34.240 it's like three apartments
00:31:35.060 in one house
00:31:35.460 and the blood gets
00:31:36.160 bigger and bigger
00:31:36.840 they knock on the door
00:31:38.560 this guy opens the door
00:31:39.940 completely naked
00:31:40.940 a hole 1.00
00:31:42.020 where his dick used to be 1.00
00:31:43.320 and he's just standing there 1.00
00:31:44.600 not talking
00:31:45.420 and they're like
00:31:46.120 hey buddy
00:31:47.060 you okay
00:31:47.780 like
00:31:48.220 and he's just like
00:31:49.360 he doesn't speak
00:31:50.100 he just stares at them
00:31:51.100 so that
00:31:52.180 they're new
00:31:52.700 they were newer guys
00:31:53.520 I felt so bad for them
00:31:54.460 that's a tough call
00:31:56.000 they weren't brand new
00:31:56.860 obviously
00:31:57.320 but that's a lot
00:31:58.740 for young guys
00:32:00.100 to see this right
00:32:00.980 oh yeah 0.99
00:32:01.480 just see some cock 1.00
00:32:02.480 down the street 0.99
00:32:03.040 they're like hey
00:32:03.360 why don't you
00:32:03.920 why don't you come in
00:32:04.760 and sit down
00:32:05.440 so they
00:32:05.900 and turns out
00:32:06.480 it was like a group home 0.94
00:32:07.480 for mentally ill people
00:32:08.800 but there's no staff members
00:32:10.060 or anything
00:32:10.460 so there's three people
00:32:11.360 in the house
00:32:11.820 it is a blood bath
00:32:13.320 there's blood everywhere
00:32:14.780 in the bedroom
00:32:15.700 the floor
00:32:16.160 the sink was full of it
00:32:17.520 so they find that
00:32:19.680 and they get on the radio
00:32:20.620 and they're like
00:32:21.220 get us an ambulance
00:32:22.160 whatever
00:32:22.600 because we don't know
00:32:23.500 how is someone alive
00:32:25.300 right
00:32:25.620 so
00:32:25.900 he's alive
00:32:27.600 so
00:32:28.420 I get called
00:32:30.140 and me
00:32:30.740 and another detective
00:32:31.560 my boss went down
00:32:32.580 and it's on the sidewalk
00:32:34.120 and they're taking photographs
00:32:35.640 or whatever
00:32:36.080 and they call
00:32:37.000 once the ambulance
00:32:37.640 find out he's alive
00:32:38.740 they just assume
00:32:39.360 somebody had bled out
00:32:40.160 somewhere and was dead
00:32:41.160 or someone did it
00:32:42.340 to somebody else
00:32:43.280 he's like no
00:32:44.280 I did it 1.00
00:32:44.960 like oh shit 0.99
00:32:46.580 okay 1.00
00:32:46.940 so he's being honest
00:32:47.840 yeah
00:32:48.540 well he's just completely
00:32:49.520 and utterly mentally 0.61
00:32:50.140 at some other point
00:32:51.020 he'd like caught off 1.00
00:32:51.700 his own nipples 1.00
00:32:52.260 he said to let the devil out 1.00
00:32:53.500 so the poor thing 0.99
00:32:54.160 was very mentally ill 0.64
00:32:55.400 he was young 0.91
00:32:56.240 early 20s
00:32:57.020 so
00:32:58.920 once the EMTs
00:33:00.960 find out
00:33:01.520 this person's alive
00:33:02.580 now they want to
00:33:03.360 try to collect it
00:33:04.360 to see if they can
00:33:05.720 reattach it
00:33:06.320 at the hospital
00:33:06.640 so we had done
00:33:07.800 our photos
00:33:08.300 I actually have a video
00:33:09.320 of this whole thing
00:33:09.960 I pulled video
00:33:10.620 from the street
00:33:11.280 nearby surveillance video
00:33:12.480 that's how I know
00:33:13.180 kind of everything
00:33:14.300 after the fact
00:33:15.120 they come down
00:33:16.820 to reattach it
00:33:17.780 and we had just done
00:33:18.340 the photos
00:33:18.760 I didn't look directly
00:33:19.640 at it
00:33:19.960 I can do
00:33:20.700 oh never stare into it
00:33:22.100 you do like a weird
00:33:23.720 blurring
00:33:24.360 it's almost like
00:33:25.140 when someone blurs
00:33:25.860 out somebody's face
00:33:26.640 that's what your brain does
00:33:28.080 you're like I don't
00:33:28.740 I don't want to see that
00:33:29.960 I don't want to see all of it
00:33:30.760 it was big
00:33:32.140 it was nasty
00:33:32.900 so they try to come down
00:33:35.020 to take it off the sidewalk
00:33:36.120 he goes to pick it up
00:33:37.260 and what are they using
00:33:37.780 a spatula or whatever
00:33:38.780 no he had gloves on
00:33:40.400 he was using his hand
00:33:41.300 and he had this weird
00:33:42.300 clear cylinder
00:33:44.120 he was an EMT
00:33:44.820 he had this like
00:33:45.380 cylinder thing
00:33:46.160 he was going to put it in
00:33:46.880 remember at the bank
00:33:48.400 you would put that
00:33:48.880 check in the thing
00:33:49.660 and send it back up
00:33:50.400 literally like that
00:33:52.120 so he goes
00:33:53.440 he goes to pick it up
00:33:55.580 and it's been so cold
00:33:57.340 he's tugging it
00:33:59.800 and it was frozen
00:34:00.760 to the sidewalk
00:34:01.780 no way
00:34:02.440 like that guy
00:34:02.940 from Christmas Story
00:34:03.760 bring that up
00:34:04.540 like it's tugged
00:34:06.280 that's what happened
00:34:07.260 to the poor guy
00:34:07.980 bring that up real quick
00:34:08.740 because people forget
00:34:09.480 that that can happen
00:34:10.500 oh yeah
00:34:11.860 oh
00:34:13.360 and let's get
00:34:14.380 just to give us
00:34:15.500 a descriptive visual
00:34:18.040 what kind of
00:34:19.300 wiener
00:34:20.040 are we talking about
00:34:20.560 and if you're wieners
00:34:21.200 I don't know if it's still
00:34:21.980 what kind of
00:34:22.900 what kind of wiener
00:34:24.820 side
00:34:25.240 like
00:34:25.700 because that's just
00:34:26.560 a sidewalk wiener
00:34:27.440 what kind of wiener
00:34:28.060 are we talking about
00:34:28.900 it's big
00:34:29.700 it was
00:34:30.360 it was big
00:34:31.040 and it looked purple
00:34:31.980 ooh
00:34:32.640 yeah 0.76
00:34:33.240 it was a black guy
00:34:34.640 and it almost looked purple
00:34:35.740 but he went to tug it
00:34:37.620 and because it froze
00:34:38.500 he gave it a second tug
00:34:39.780 and then like
00:34:40.780 he didn't let go of it
00:34:41.840 it like went in the air
00:34:43.040 and this thing
00:34:44.160 came out
00:34:44.760 I don't know if it was 0.78
00:34:45.340 his urethra 0.99
00:34:45.820 I don't know what the fuck it was 0.99
00:34:46.980 I compared later 0.99
00:34:49.040 to like a balloon streamer
00:34:50.320 came like flying out the end
00:34:51.720 oh that's some party confetti baby
00:34:53.260 and I just turned
00:34:53.520 and dry heaved
00:34:54.520 into the street
00:34:55.080 I've never thrown up at the job
00:34:56.640 I've never done it
00:34:57.420 I dry heaved
00:34:58.760 into the street
00:34:59.520 and I was like 1.00
00:35:00.040 what the fuck 1.00
00:35:00.900 and some young patrolman 1.00
00:35:02.000 who was there
00:35:02.600 and this is all on video
00:35:03.900 he's in his uniform
00:35:04.700 and he does this little
00:35:05.920 kicky uncomfortable dance
00:35:07.360 because he's like
00:35:07.880 oh my god
00:35:08.520 that was horrific
00:35:09.200 oh he couldn't handle it like that
00:35:10.580 exactly
00:35:11.260 and then later
00:35:12.460 I pulled the video
00:35:13.240 from the street
00:35:13.780 we're like
00:35:14.060 how did this get there
00:35:15.100 how did this guy
00:35:15.760 get back to the house
00:35:16.620 he had cut it off
00:35:18.620 several hours before
00:35:20.020 in the house
00:35:21.020 walked down the street
00:35:22.660 and he's completely naked
00:35:23.760 nobody called police
00:35:24.920 this is the best part
00:35:25.820 there's people going to work
00:35:26.820 it's like 3 or 4 in the morning
00:35:28.020 busy busy street
00:35:29.440 driving down the street
00:35:30.900 he's completely naked
00:35:32.120 what no one called 911
00:35:33.380 and he's walking down the street
00:35:35.440 and I have a video of it
00:35:36.460 he leans
00:35:36.880 he cut it
00:35:37.940 but it wasn't off altogether
00:35:39.120 oh
00:35:40.000 so he leans down
00:35:41.480 wow bro
00:35:41.880 that's that
00:35:42.300 whoa
00:35:42.660 that's that Memphis
00:35:43.700 and then threw it on the sidewalk
00:35:45.240 no
00:35:45.620 oh
00:35:46.460 so wait
00:35:47.740 tell me that part again
00:35:48.540 he what
00:35:48.920 so he
00:35:49.740 so I'm watching this video
00:35:51.160 so he leans
00:35:51.440 tell me that part again
00:35:52.000 so I'm watching the video
00:35:53.060 and try to find him
00:35:54.060 like what time did this happen
00:35:55.240 and you just see this form
00:35:56.520 it's dark
00:35:57.120 and he's completely naked
00:35:58.320 walking down the street
00:35:59.700 and all of a sudden
00:36:00.960 he leans over
00:36:02.160 I'm like what's he doing
00:36:03.000 and he's in the direction
00:36:03.920 it's kind of from the side 0.96
00:36:04.980 direction of his crotch 0.65
00:36:05.840 you see his arm move 0.93
00:36:06.840 like a tug
00:36:07.540 and then he just 0.99
00:36:08.720 fucking threw it 0.99
00:36:09.760 and I remember 0.99
00:36:11.000 when I pulled the video
00:36:11.720 I didn't know this had happened
00:36:12.780 I watched it
00:36:13.780 and I pushed my chair back
00:36:15.700 from the desk
00:36:16.200 and screamed 0.82
00:36:16.880 I was like 1.00
00:36:17.480 what the fuck 0.99
00:36:19.120 the worst part is 1.00
00:36:20.820 he came
00:36:21.220 so if you can believe
00:36:22.020 something's worse
00:36:22.700 he came back
00:36:23.460 about a half an hour later
00:36:24.360 he walked like a mile
00:36:25.420 they said that's what saved him
00:36:26.660 why he didn't bleed to death
00:36:27.760 it was so cold
00:36:28.560 it coagulated the blood
00:36:30.100 so he didn't bleed to death
00:36:31.120 he came back
00:36:32.580 and he's walking down the street
00:36:34.460 and as he sees it
00:36:35.920 he walks over to it
00:36:37.800 and gets down on all fours
00:36:39.620 and leaned over
00:36:40.620 and kissed it
00:36:41.640 and then got up
00:36:42.880 and walked away
00:36:43.340 I thought he was going to eat it
00:36:44.300 like a dog bone
00:36:45.040 honest to God
00:36:45.880 I was like
00:36:46.260 what is happening
00:36:47.200 what is happening
00:36:48.040 he bent down
00:36:49.480 gave it a smooch
00:36:50.600 and got up
00:36:51.200 and walked home
00:36:51.780 oh god 0.98
00:36:52.940 it was fucking crazy 0.99
00:36:54.520 oh my god 1.00
00:36:55.880 the poor bastard 1.00
00:36:57.140 let me tell 1.00
00:36:57.900 because I got to go through
00:36:58.480 a couple beats of that story
00:36:59.520 and dear god
00:37:00.540 let me just say that out loud
00:37:02.040 so god knows
00:37:02.840 that we're just
00:37:03.420 alarmed by this
00:37:04.700 first of all
00:37:06.080 the fact that he cut it
00:37:07.060 and it was just hanging there
00:37:08.560 he didn't do the job
00:37:09.440 just like a piece of Memphis
00:37:10.500 mistletoe
00:37:11.160 just hanging there
00:37:12.040 that's so wild
00:37:13.420 yeah it was nuts
00:37:14.780 like mistletoe
00:37:15.640 at a diddy party
00:37:16.740 or something
00:37:17.180 it was crazy
00:37:17.420 and then he tugged it off
00:37:19.460 I can't even imagine
00:37:20.380 gives it a tug
00:37:21.000 because you've read
00:37:21.540 like a little hangnail
00:37:22.200 when you pull it off
00:37:23.080 kills
00:37:23.580 and this is like
00:37:25.800 there's a lot of nerve endings
00:37:27.120 down there
00:37:27.400 oh that's the ultimate hangnail
00:37:28.860 that's the most hang
00:37:30.800 that should be the name
00:37:31.620 of my chapter 0.99
00:37:32.200 not dick on the sidewalk 0.99
00:37:33.320 the ultimate hangnail 0.99
00:37:34.600 that's the most hangiest nail
00:37:35.980 that there is
00:37:37.580 when you said that
00:37:39.140 it got so visceral
00:37:40.420 I think for me
00:37:41.000 and I'm sure for anybody
00:37:41.860 most men get the same reaction
00:37:43.940 when you tell them
00:37:44.640 and then I wonder
00:37:45.280 what flew out of it
00:37:46.340 pull that up on perplexity
00:37:47.760 because I'm thinking
00:37:48.540 that's just a little
00:37:49.180 you know what it looked like
00:37:50.140 in the photo
00:37:50.840 and when I saw it come out
00:37:52.360 you know what like
00:37:53.040 sausage casing looks like
00:37:54.260 before there's a sausage
00:37:55.220 in it
00:37:55.520 it's almost like skinny
00:37:56.500 opaque kind of
00:37:58.260 almost
00:37:58.540 I don't know how else
00:38:00.220 to describe it
00:38:00.920 it's like kind of grey
00:38:02.300 and translucent
00:38:03.000 it was like a little
00:38:04.360 smaller than my pinky
00:38:05.320 and this thing
00:38:05.960 just flew out
00:38:07.080 I just could not even
00:38:08.600 yeah that's just
00:38:10.380 a little wiener funfetti
00:38:11.580 homie
00:38:11.960 let's look at
00:38:12.760 no give me a gander
00:38:14.180 at it man
00:38:14.760 I'm trying to get
00:38:15.380 I'm trying to get a gander
00:38:16.340 yeah just look at the
00:38:17.140 but let's look at the parts here
00:38:19.060 because it's fascinating
00:38:20.160 to know what is that
00:38:21.240 yeah I don't know 0.99
00:38:21.860 what the fuck it was 1.00
00:38:23.340 that's a vagina 1.00
00:38:24.320 oh no that's a wiener 1.00
00:38:25.100 sorry
00:38:25.480 oh come on
00:38:26.220 these days you can't tell
00:38:27.260 the other day
00:38:27.740 my buddy showed me 0.55
00:38:28.620 a picture of his naked wife 0.99
00:38:29.780 she has a wiener 0.99
00:38:31.280 and I was like
00:38:31.660 alright well
00:38:32.360 that's a surprise
00:38:33.560 yeah maybe it's a urethra
00:38:35.240 yes because see
00:38:36.000 the urethral opening
00:38:36.740 goes down to the end
00:38:37.580 that's what it was
00:38:38.520 god boy
00:38:39.460 yeah it was
00:38:39.980 it was dicey
00:38:41.040 it was a dice
00:38:41.660 and I remember
00:38:42.520 when we got the call
00:38:43.460 and I remember
00:38:43.860 standing over it
00:38:44.940 thinking like
00:38:46.560 where did I go wrong 1.00
00:38:47.600 in my fucking life 0.99
00:38:48.800 that it's 745 0.99
00:38:49.820 in the morning
00:38:50.400 and I'm looking 1.00
00:38:50.860 at someone's dick 1.00
00:38:51.960 on the goddamn sidewalk 1.00
00:38:53.280 you know 1.00
00:38:54.340 I was like
00:38:54.620 what did I do
00:38:55.460 what did I do
00:38:56.080 to disturb this
00:38:57.060 it's a question
00:38:58.220 as old as time
00:38:59.300 you know
00:39:00.100 it really is 1.00
00:39:00.980 poor bastard 1.00
00:39:01.720 I think a lot of women 1.00
00:39:03.060 have asked themselves
00:39:03.800 things like that
00:39:04.440 overall
00:39:04.800 you know
00:39:05.240 and in hindsight
00:39:07.340 how does that even follow up
00:39:09.120 do you guys keep that
00:39:10.160 in evidence
00:39:10.780 well no
00:39:11.180 they tried to reattach it
00:39:12.220 at the hospital
00:39:13.060 so they rushed him
00:39:13.820 to the hospital with it
00:39:14.700 and they did attach it
00:39:15.720 but it didn't take
00:39:16.520 it was like a month later
00:39:17.440 they had to like
00:39:18.080 take it off
00:39:18.740 yeah
00:39:19.800 imagine that month
00:39:22.080 oh my god
00:39:23.080 so it's funny
00:39:23.680 because of the group home
00:39:24.680 we were trying to find out
00:39:25.680 what is this kid's story
00:39:26.700 what's his name
00:39:27.300 because the other kid in the house
00:39:28.220 was not with it at all
00:39:29.300 couldn't even
00:39:29.720 he was just sitting there
00:39:30.340 playing video games
00:39:31.100 of course
00:39:31.460 it was like a bloodbath
00:39:32.400 so we're like
00:39:33.720 it's hard to get the kids
00:39:34.500 off the games
00:39:35.080 right
00:39:35.380 but these guys
00:39:36.160 they're like 20
00:39:37.460 so I called the supervisor
00:39:39.900 of the group home
00:39:40.680 and I was trying to get
00:39:41.800 some information
00:39:42.400 he's like
00:39:42.760 oh him
00:39:43.240 we're trying to find him
00:39:44.380 an in-house
00:39:45.040 a placement in a hospital
00:39:48.980 or a psych ward
00:39:50.360 because he's you know
00:39:51.140 he's been exposing his peanuts
00:39:52.300 in group classes
00:39:53.180 or whatever
00:39:53.620 in group meetings
00:39:54.760 and I said
00:39:55.300 well you're late
00:39:55.860 you're a little late
00:39:56.820 because he cut it off
00:39:57.800 and threw it on the side
00:39:58.360 with the guy
00:39:58.680 he's like what
00:39:59.280 like you could tell 0.99
00:39:59.960 he shit himself 0.99
00:40:00.560 because that's his 0.99
00:40:01.320 how someone's supposed
00:40:02.620 to be supervising
00:40:03.460 yes obviously
00:40:04.220 somebody's supposed
00:40:04.740 to be there
00:40:05.020 making sure at the very least
00:40:07.340 someone's not
00:40:08.180 lopping off their own wiener
00:40:09.380 and I just can't
00:40:10.520 I can't even imagine
00:40:11.840 the month wait
00:40:12.680 to know if it's going
00:40:13.500 to take or not
00:40:14.220 you know
00:40:14.640 I don't think he cared
00:40:15.620 but still 0.87
00:40:17.000 he was obviously crazy
00:40:19.300 I know that's not
00:40:20.340 the technical
00:40:20.820 but you don't think
00:40:21.340 he cared why
00:40:21.940 I mean he cut off
00:40:23.260 to begin with
00:40:23.780 he said he was
00:40:24.180 letting the devil out
00:40:25.040 like he's just 1.00
00:40:25.740 extremely mentally ill 0.88
00:40:27.220 and I don't think 0.92
00:40:28.020 he even
00:40:28.460 kind of
00:40:29.140 I mean I think
00:40:29.660 there's a part
00:40:30.080 of a lot of people
00:40:30.640 that think the devil
00:40:31.320 lives inside of their 1.00
00:40:32.300 genitalia for some people 0.99
00:40:33.400 yeah and like I said
00:40:34.360 he cut his 1.00
00:40:34.860 he cut his nipples off 1.00
00:40:35.980 he like carved 1.00
00:40:36.560 something in his forehead
00:40:37.520 like this poor kid
00:40:38.580 was really messed up
00:40:39.960 it's heartbreaking
00:40:41.500 that people go through
00:40:42.360 so much
00:40:42.920 and I just
00:40:44.100 I can't imagine
00:40:46.460 that month
00:40:47.040 where you're waiting
00:40:47.700 to see right
00:40:48.220 like the bandage
00:40:48.980 I can't imagine
00:40:49.380 doing it
00:40:50.200 like how do you
00:40:51.040 sit there
00:40:52.040 and saw it off
00:40:53.620 and he did it
00:40:54.560 did he use a saw
00:40:55.520 now let's ask
00:40:55.980 no it's just a big
00:40:56.800 long kitchen knife
00:40:57.660 but you know
00:40:58.080 it was dull as dishwater
00:40:59.360 it was in some 1.00
00:40:59.800 shitty group home 0.99
00:41:00.740 like it's not some 0.89
00:41:01.440 nice Henkel's knife
00:41:02.500 you know what I mean
00:41:03.300 I'm sure
00:41:03.640 well it's not like
00:41:04.100 Hanzo's scissors
00:41:04.880 it was like
00:41:05.580 some plastic handled 0.98
00:41:06.900 shitty kitchen knife 0.97
00:41:08.160 it was like this long 0.69
00:41:09.040 you got to see the knife
00:41:09.880 yeah we were up
00:41:10.540 in the apartment
00:41:11.000 was it a basically
00:41:11.660 knife you get
00:41:12.280 like if just
00:41:12.760 if you made your kids
00:41:13.460 dinner 0.56
00:41:13.700 you give them a knife 0.94
00:41:14.360 for your husband
00:41:14.740 no not a steak knife
00:41:15.600 like a little bit longer
00:41:16.700 like it would come
00:41:17.780 in your knife block
00:41:18.580 for like carving
00:41:19.320 or whatever
00:41:20.040 I don't remember that
00:41:21.640 I don't think it was
00:41:23.440 serrated
00:41:23.900 I hope it was
00:41:25.020 otherwise
00:41:25.420 serrated might be
00:41:27.420 more jagged
00:41:28.180 but I think you would
00:41:29.080 get it done pretty quicker
00:41:29.980 I don't know if we can
00:41:30.880 I mean the more we talk
00:41:31.740 God only knows how long
00:41:32.780 he was working at it
00:41:33.540 because the bed
00:41:33.980 the whole bedroom
00:41:34.720 so the kid I was
00:41:35.580 working with
00:41:35.980 thank God
00:41:36.720 he had been in the
00:41:37.440 crime scene unit
00:41:38.220 so he would go into
00:41:39.660 scenes all the time
00:41:40.560 like he put on
00:41:42.260 Tyvek suit to go in
00:41:43.540 because there's so much
00:41:44.420 blood
00:41:44.900 we go stepping through it
00:41:47.280 oh the wiener holds
00:41:48.060 a lot baby
00:41:48.700 that's the Lord's
00:41:49.860 spigot
00:41:50.300 the Lord had lots
00:41:51.820 that day
00:41:52.600 God boy
00:41:53.240 yeah definitely
00:41:54.240 God
00:41:55.500 and who was the other
00:41:56.440 kid just some honky 0.85
00:41:57.380 sitting there playing
00:41:57.940 double dragon or something
00:41:59.060 he was sitting there
00:42:00.380 he was like a grown man
00:42:01.280 with his legs crossed
00:42:02.140 like so you know
00:42:03.200 that's weird
00:42:03.580 the crisscross applesauce
00:42:04.680 yeah
00:42:05.100 he's sitting there
00:42:05.880 like trying to
00:42:06.420 we were talking like
00:42:07.340 hey do you know
00:42:08.120 what happened
00:42:08.660 he's just like
00:42:09.300 trying to look past us
00:42:10.540 like because we're
00:42:10.900 in the way of his game
00:42:11.780 to play the game
00:42:12.440 alright this guy
00:42:13.080 what game was it
00:42:14.440 do you remember it on
00:42:15.060 I don't know
00:42:15.500 I was concentrating 0.99
00:42:16.820 on other shit 1.00
00:42:17.480 wow 0.99
00:42:18.180 yeah he was literally
00:42:19.380 just trying to look
00:42:19.880 around us
00:42:20.500 I bet it was one player
00:42:21.260 they didn't have a lot
00:42:21.680 of two player games
00:42:22.220 at that time
00:42:22.860 wow
00:42:24.360 oh my god
00:42:25.120 but the worst
00:42:25.720 imagine you just
00:42:26.460 you're waiting
00:42:27.780 they wrap your wiener
00:42:29.400 they do the repackaging
00:42:30.720 and I bet at that point
00:42:31.660 it's almost like
00:42:32.080 the masked singer
00:42:32.780 you're just waiting
00:42:33.480 they take it off
00:42:34.140 and you're seeing like
00:42:35.200 okay is this
00:42:36.720 what do we have here
00:42:37.840 did this work
00:42:38.460 yeah
00:42:38.680 what's the result
00:42:39.720 yeah do we have
00:42:40.680 a Shaquille O'Neal here
00:42:41.560 or do we have
00:42:41.880 a Muggsy Bogues here 1.00
00:42:42.960 you know
00:42:43.240 I think you're just
00:42:44.100 waiting to see
00:42:44.920 what you're gonna
00:42:45.760 end up with
00:42:46.440 oh that must have
00:42:47.380 been horrible
00:42:47.900 the big reveal
00:42:48.840 you know
00:42:49.280 and they're like
00:42:49.760 move that bus
00:42:50.980 and then the bus
00:42:52.500 takes off 1.00
00:42:52.920 and your cock 1.00
00:42:54.700 doesn't work dude 1.00
00:42:55.540 that's the freaking 0.87
00:42:56.280 worst 1.00
00:42:56.780 god 0.75
00:42:57.480 I hate that
00:42:59.000 that was a day
00:43:00.140 I hate that
00:43:00.900 oh
00:43:02.900 that's harrowing
00:43:04.880 yeah
00:43:05.180 that was one
00:43:06.040 that's harrowing
00:43:07.120 and it's cold
00:43:08.220 was it so cold outside
00:43:09.220 was it hard to stand outside
00:43:10.200 was it that cold
00:43:10.940 we weren't outside
00:43:13.180 that long
00:43:13.740 once we took
00:43:15.460 the photos
00:43:16.100 and when the EMT
00:43:18.400 came down
00:43:18.920 and collected it
00:43:19.720 there wasn't else
00:43:20.960 much to do
00:43:21.520 with that scene
00:43:22.220 so then we went
00:43:23.260 up to the house
00:43:24.080 and it wasn't cold
00:43:25.180 in the air
00:43:25.480 we were outside
00:43:25.960 for maybe an hour
00:43:27.100 45 minutes
00:43:27.840 I don't even remember
00:43:28.580 because the
00:43:29.440 it wasn't like 20 below
00:43:30.880 right
00:43:31.500 but it was chilly right
00:43:32.580 yeah it was cold
00:43:33.500 but the part for me
00:43:34.940 I think that'd be
00:43:35.400 the wildest is
00:43:35.980 say you are
00:43:36.820 you know
00:43:37.800 you're so cold
00:43:38.700 you run out there 0.99
00:43:39.460 you're looking at the cock 0.98
00:43:40.340 and then it gets too cold 0.99
00:43:41.040 you had to run back
00:43:41.720 into your car
00:43:42.160 and warm up
00:43:42.580 no there was no
00:43:42.900 running back
00:43:43.360 and you're like texting
00:43:44.680 like alright let's meet
00:43:45.300 out there again
00:43:45.720 in 30 seconds
00:43:46.340 you know what I'm saying
00:43:46.920 like you're having
00:43:47.260 to battle the cold
00:43:47.920 so much
00:43:48.620 no not at that case
00:43:49.740 you're like oh yes 1.00
00:43:50.560 it's a black cock 1.00
00:43:52.720 and you have to go 1.00
00:43:53.320 sit back in your car
00:43:54.060 like that's the part
00:43:54.740 that would get you know
00:43:55.520 having to build up
00:43:56.700 just to stay warm
00:43:58.140 out there
00:43:58.620 god
00:43:59.660 that's insane 0.98
00:44:01.380 yeah it was fucking crazy 0.96
00:44:02.720 and it is 1.00
00:44:03.220 and that's the kind of shit 0.99
00:44:04.320 it's like you know 1.00
00:44:05.100 you're sitting there
00:44:06.240 and then you're watching
00:44:07.120 your kiddo blow out 0.61
00:44:07.980 some birthday candles
00:44:08.980 or something
00:44:09.620 you go from that
00:44:10.580 to something else
00:44:11.700 that was the day
00:44:12.900 yeah
00:44:13.420 we went out for drinks
00:44:14.280 after work that day
00:44:15.120 oh yeah
00:44:15.840 we're like we're going
00:44:16.620 out tonight
00:44:17.100 yeah I'm a black and tan
00:44:18.940 huh
00:44:19.320 that's what I'm saying dude
00:44:21.060 I love some Johnny Walker
00:44:22.520 yeah
00:44:23.040 there was another story
00:44:26.640 to pivot
00:44:27.340 I know that you had
00:44:28.180 mentioned whenever
00:44:29.080 our producer Nick
00:44:31.740 had reached out to you
00:44:32.900 and thank you so much
00:44:33.760 for coming
00:44:34.120 of course
00:44:34.700 I want to say thank you
00:44:35.280 so much
00:44:35.480 you look lovely today too
00:44:36.560 it's a really great outfit
00:44:37.800 who chose that
00:44:38.360 you did
00:44:38.720 I did
00:44:39.320 yeah
00:44:39.760 you did a great job
00:44:40.720 thank you
00:44:41.620 there was a story
00:44:44.240 you talked about
00:44:44.900 finding
00:44:45.260 someone had left
00:44:47.040 a child
00:44:47.980 someone
00:44:48.740 put a baby
00:44:50.880 in a trash can 0.99
00:44:51.620 and I preface this
00:44:53.020 right away by saying
00:44:53.900 the baby lived
00:44:54.560 the baby was fine
00:44:55.420 okay
00:44:55.820 but that call
00:44:58.040 came in
00:44:58.920 for patrolmen
00:45:00.300 there was like
00:45:00.900 a senior housing
00:45:01.640 on our district
00:45:02.360 and there was a gentleman
00:45:03.460 who lived there
00:45:04.040 an elderly man
00:45:04.780 and he had someone
00:45:05.500 who used to come
00:45:06.200 and clean his house
00:45:06.860 for him
00:45:07.200 and he called
00:45:08.580 911
00:45:09.040 because he said
00:45:09.780 someone just had
00:45:11.160 a baby in his house
00:45:12.640 and then left with it
00:45:14.560 in a bag
00:45:15.460 and it was crying
00:45:16.200 so
00:45:17.320 the patrolman
00:45:18.560 goes to the call
00:45:20.140 and he goes up
00:45:21.100 and talks to him
00:45:21.780 the apartment
00:45:22.260 is pristine
00:45:23.060 there's no sign
00:45:24.160 of a baby being born
00:45:25.420 he said she was
00:45:26.560 in the bathroom
00:45:27.060 he's like
00:45:27.480 it's
00:45:28.180 nothing happened
00:45:30.300 nobody had a baby
00:45:31.020 so he called
00:45:32.200 the officer called
00:45:33.700 an ambulance
00:45:34.180 for a psyche valve
00:45:35.200 saying it's this guy
00:45:36.660 the old man
00:45:37.620 something's wrong
00:45:38.440 or he maybe has dementia
00:45:39.740 just wanted to check on
00:45:40.780 and make sure he's okay
00:45:41.660 so as the ambulance
00:45:43.360 is pulling up
00:45:44.400 again I have this
00:45:45.940 on video
00:45:46.260 that's how I remember
00:45:46.800 the sequence
00:45:47.300 the ambulance
00:45:48.420 pulls up
00:45:49.100 and pulls in
00:45:49.880 there was like
00:45:50.500 a horseshoe driveway
00:45:51.540 and they pull in
00:45:52.720 the driveway
00:45:53.180 and just as they're
00:45:54.680 doing that
00:45:55.220 a girl is walking
00:45:56.200 down the street
00:45:57.000 maybe 50
00:45:58.400 60 feet away
00:45:59.460 maybe a little more
00:46:00.540 from the apartment
00:46:02.200 and it's a very busy
00:46:03.840 street in Dorchester
00:46:04.480 it's Dorchester Ave
00:46:05.720 and she's walking
00:46:06.500 on the street
00:46:06.880 and there's a
00:46:07.460 a wrought iron
00:46:09.040 trash can in the street
00:46:09.860 and she walks by 0.72
00:46:10.760 and she hears something
00:46:11.880 she thought it was like
00:46:13.240 someone put puppies
00:46:14.240 or something
00:46:15.100 in the trash
00:46:15.820 she hears something crying
00:46:16.780 she sees the ambulance
00:46:18.080 goes running over
00:46:18.920 and waves him down
00:46:19.780 and says
00:46:20.040 I think there's a baby
00:46:21.180 or something
00:46:21.880 in the trash can
00:46:23.660 wow
00:46:24.180 so the EMT
00:46:25.100 comes walking
00:46:25.700 down the street
00:46:26.060 you can tell
00:46:26.560 he thinks 1.00
00:46:27.140 she's full of shit 1.00
00:46:28.280 by the way 1.00
00:46:28.780 he's walking
00:46:29.380 there's no urgency
00:46:30.480 but everybody
00:46:31.140 in this neighborhood 1.00
00:46:31.660 is full of shit 1.00
00:46:32.260 there's no urgency 1.00
00:46:33.260 to his gate
00:46:34.780 he's just like
00:46:35.620 okay
00:46:36.240 because they get
00:46:37.100 they're inundated
00:46:38.000 with calls
00:46:38.540 they are buried
00:46:39.240 all day long
00:46:39.900 he's like
00:46:40.300 all right
00:46:40.600 we're here for this
00:46:41.320 but okay
00:46:41.760 he goes walking over
00:46:43.480 he goes in
00:46:44.900 the typical haunted
00:46:45.900 trash can
00:46:46.640 in Dorchester 0.97
00:46:47.300 he goes in
00:46:48.620 and you can see
00:46:49.720 his reaction
00:46:50.560 he picks it out
00:46:51.540 and then
00:46:52.080 it's crazy activity
00:46:53.820 he puts it on
00:46:54.600 you can see
00:46:55.300 this was all in the video
00:46:56.520 but you can't see exactly
00:46:57.800 you can see
00:46:58.420 insane movement
00:46:59.600 all of a sudden
00:47:00.400 he's on the air
00:47:01.300 and at the same time
00:47:02.560 the officer was up
00:47:03.300 in the house
00:47:03.720 said like
00:47:04.560 what's the ETA
00:47:05.320 in my ambulance
00:47:05.960 he never showed up
00:47:07.000 and at the same time
00:47:07.880 the girl had called
00:47:08.700 911 and said
00:47:09.480 there's a baby crying
00:47:10.820 in a trash can
00:47:11.640 so this is all
00:47:12.520 kind of happening
00:47:13.180 at once
00:47:13.620 so then we all
00:47:14.660 go flying up there
00:47:15.500 when they're like
00:47:15.900 yeah there's a baby
00:47:16.740 we don't have a mother
00:47:18.300 we don't know
00:47:19.180 what's going on
00:47:19.900 the woman 0.98
00:47:20.960 I spoke to the gentleman
00:47:22.540 in the house
00:47:23.000 he said
00:47:23.460 it was his cleaning woman 0.54
00:47:24.500 he had a different name
00:47:25.640 for her
00:47:25.880 that wasn't her real name
00:47:26.940 because we're trying
00:47:27.660 to track her down
00:47:28.280 like is she bleeding
00:47:28.960 out somewhere
00:47:29.600 is she hurt
00:47:30.580 does she need help
00:47:31.480 what is the story
00:47:32.800 yeah she just had a child 1.00
00:47:33.720 maybe
00:47:34.040 so he said
00:47:35.280 she was in the bathroom 1.00
00:47:36.000 for a couple hours
00:47:37.080 he thought she had
00:47:37.980 stomach problems
00:47:38.940 and then she asked him
00:47:40.300 do you have a pair of scissors
00:47:41.580 and then she asked him
00:47:43.280 for a bag
00:47:44.040 and then
00:47:45.220 because I interviewed him
00:47:46.140 me and my partner
00:47:46.780 and he walks
00:47:47.760 he said she walked
00:47:48.960 out of the bathroom
00:47:49.760 and she had like
00:47:51.140 a big tote bag
00:47:51.960 with her
00:47:52.280 like her purse
00:47:53.040 and the baby
00:47:53.980 was in the bag
00:47:54.940 and he could hear her crying
00:47:55.840 he's like
00:47:56.220 what's that
00:47:56.880 is that a baby crying
00:47:57.740 she's like
00:47:58.040 oh this is nothing
00:47:58.880 yeah
00:47:59.300 and then walked out
00:48:00.220 the door
00:48:00.640 or whatever
00:48:01.160 so
00:48:01.780 that's crazy
00:48:02.660 then on the video
00:48:03.400 you can see her
00:48:03.900 walking down the street
00:48:04.720 and there's people
00:48:05.180 coming toward her
00:48:06.060 and there's a gentleman
00:48:07.360 passing her
00:48:08.060 just as she gets
00:48:08.700 to the trash can
00:48:09.340 she waits for him
00:48:10.380 and as he goes past
00:48:11.200 she looks around
00:48:11.820 pulls it out
00:48:12.440 and goes
00:48:12.700 right in the trash can
00:48:14.460 so
00:48:15.640 turns out
00:48:16.580 she had gone in there
00:48:17.660 had the baby
00:48:18.580 she was at her 30
00:48:19.620 she wasn't a kid 0.94
00:48:20.540 and she wasn't
00:48:21.800 not mentally ill
00:48:22.820 she just 0.65
00:48:23.380 didn't plan on
00:48:24.520 keeping the baby
00:48:25.220 she had the baby
00:48:26.400 how alone
00:48:27.660 I do not know
00:48:28.460 and then cleaned the bathroom
00:48:29.700 that's why it was so pristine
00:48:31.600 when people think of women
00:48:32.980 like
00:48:33.240 that's the power
00:48:34.100 I mean women
00:48:34.620 it's just like
00:48:35.340 how she did that
00:48:36.600 I do not know
00:48:37.360 she sat in the tub
00:48:38.920 and had a baby
00:48:40.020 with no help
00:48:41.240 women are powerful man 1.00
00:48:44.380 and then to clean up
00:48:46.500 the bathroom
00:48:47.000 clean it up
00:48:47.540 but she also is a cleaning lady 1.00
00:48:49.020 I can understand
00:48:49.600 you know
00:48:49.940 that's why it was so nice
00:48:51.100 but also she I guess
00:48:52.640 has to hide her 0.89
00:48:53.300 I guess
00:48:53.580 did you determine
00:48:55.480 that she's mentally unwell
00:48:56.700 no she was fine
00:48:57.560 she just didn't want the baby 1.00
00:48:58.860 but we don't know
00:49:00.040 any of this at the time
00:49:01.080 so all we have
00:49:02.420 is a phone number
00:49:02.920 she signed in
00:49:03.720 on like the log
00:49:04.400 at the senior housing
00:49:05.360 and she put a phone number down 0.91
00:49:08.640 and one of the patrolmen
00:49:10.700 working at the scene
00:49:11.620 they blocked off the street
00:49:12.860 they were like
00:49:13.220 helicopters overhead
00:49:14.180 this was like news
00:49:15.080 it was on the news
00:49:15.860 and one of the officers
00:49:17.740 who was blocking the street
00:49:18.860 the traffic
00:49:19.380 we all get the phone number
00:49:21.080 and he starts
00:49:22.320 looking through reports
00:49:23.320 because he's sitting there
00:49:24.020 blocking the street
00:49:24.680 he starts looking through reports
00:49:26.180 because we don't have
00:49:26.840 the right name
00:49:27.400 that guy gave us
00:49:28.220 the wrong name
00:49:28.880 like the wrong age
00:49:29.640 he said she's a girl
00:49:30.580 she was in her 30s
00:49:32.100 to him she was a girl
00:49:33.080 because he's in his 80s 0.99
00:49:33.960 he's a pervert too 0.97
00:49:34.780 I'm not judging him 0.99
00:49:36.540 I don't know him
00:49:36.980 he said she's a good looking girl
00:49:38.340 so maybe you're right
00:49:39.200 the officer
00:49:40.540 the patrolman
00:49:41.840 starts looking through reports
00:49:43.100 and finds a phone number
00:49:44.360 attached to a different name
00:49:45.680 so then we start looking
00:49:47.000 we find the driver's lights
00:49:48.280 like this again
00:49:49.260 all took like over an hour
00:49:50.380 because there's a lot going on
00:49:52.040 and headquarters is calling
00:49:53.300 and everybody's like
00:49:54.100 this is huge
00:49:54.900 you know
00:49:55.280 so this kid finds
00:49:57.020 the kid's
00:49:57.880 woman's real name 1.00
00:49:58.920 and phone number
00:49:59.480 and they start
00:50:01.060 pinging the phone
00:50:01.880 so it turns out
00:50:03.340 after she put the
00:50:04.720 baby in the can
00:50:05.520 walked down the street
00:50:06.440 and got on the trolley
00:50:07.380 took the tea
00:50:08.020 back to like
00:50:09.480 to Mattapan
00:50:09.980 the train station
00:50:10.900 and then got on a train
00:50:11.780 or a bus
00:50:12.320 and went to her house
00:50:13.440 in Milton
00:50:13.760 so we knew what her address was
00:50:15.220 while she's in transit
00:50:16.880 we're following
00:50:17.500 they're following the ping
00:50:18.400 and she's like moving
00:50:19.220 through the city
00:50:19.860 and then my supervisor
00:50:21.980 and a couple of detectives
00:50:23.460 at least one
00:50:24.100 met her at the house
00:50:25.300 with an ambulance
00:50:25.980 so like this lady 1.00
00:50:26.900 we don't know
00:50:27.480 what's going on with her
00:50:28.380 so they met her
00:50:29.180 at the house
00:50:30.340 and said like
00:50:30.820 hey you gotta go to the hospital
00:50:31.940 are you okay
00:50:32.600 like what's going on
00:50:33.680 they went in the house
00:50:34.840 she like rented
00:50:35.460 a small in-law
00:50:36.220 or something in the house
00:50:37.140 they said there were
00:50:37.860 no baby items
00:50:38.760 it was full-term baby
00:50:39.860 there was no crib
00:50:41.280 there was no diapers
00:50:42.520 it was nothing
00:50:43.160 so it was
00:50:43.660 she did not plan
00:50:44.760 on keeping
00:50:45.640 this baby
00:50:46.700 she had no intentions
00:50:48.160 of doing that
00:50:48.800 obviously she didn't have
00:50:49.500 a single thing
00:50:49.960 in the house
00:50:50.400 but they took her
00:50:50.900 to the hospital
00:50:51.280 she was fine
00:50:52.620 they kept her
00:50:53.220 in the hospital
00:50:53.580 for a few days
00:50:54.220 but I mean
00:50:54.960 she literally
00:50:55.880 tied the bag
00:50:56.900 in a knot
00:50:57.320 like she tried 0.88
00:50:57.740 to kill the baby
00:50:58.540 and that girl 1.00
00:51:00.120 walking by
00:51:00.840 saved it
00:51:01.640 because it was cold
00:51:02.220 that day
00:51:02.560 she saved that
00:51:03.360 she saved that baby 0.90
00:51:04.320 that's unbelievable
00:51:06.580 it might never
00:51:07.280 have been found
00:51:07.780 like the city
00:51:08.300 comes and dumps
00:51:09.140 those trash cans
00:51:09.940 that baby's gone
00:51:10.940 the odds
00:51:11.480 that the girl
00:51:12.180 haven't been walking
00:51:12.760 by and hear it
00:51:13.640 yeah
00:51:14.540 and do they
00:51:15.620 repartner that
00:51:16.620 child and that mother
00:51:17.560 well I think 0.95
00:51:20.060 she tried to kill it 0.99
00:51:21.640 so I don't know
00:51:22.500 the homicide unit
00:51:23.640 came and took the case
00:51:24.440 why I don't know
00:51:25.040 because
00:51:25.300 you know
00:51:27.740 the baby lived
00:51:28.360 but it's obviously
00:51:29.020 a biggie
00:51:29.500 so they ended up
00:51:30.020 taking it
00:51:30.460 it took
00:51:30.900 four like four years
00:51:32.860 to go through court
00:51:33.500 it was during COVID
00:51:34.380 I remember people
00:51:34.980 wearing masks
00:51:35.520 when it was on the news
00:51:36.340 but it took like
00:51:38.660 four years
00:51:39.300 to wind its way
00:51:39.980 through court
00:51:40.480 no jail time
00:51:41.720 I'm like
00:51:42.040 that's attempted murder
00:51:42.960 she tried to kill 1.00
00:51:43.800 that baby
00:51:44.260 there's nothing
00:51:44.640 wrong with her
00:51:45.180 she wasn't scared
00:51:45.860 16 year old
00:51:46.660 you know what I mean
00:51:47.520 she was just
00:51:48.220 her defense attorney
00:51:49.580 tried to say
00:51:51.240 that it was cultural
00:51:52.080 I'm like
00:51:52.740 do people throw babies
00:51:54.320 in trash cans
00:51:55.000 in her culture 0.99
00:51:55.620 was it a black
00:51:56.640 or Asian Mexican
00:51:57.360 she was Haitian
00:51:58.840 she was from Haiti
00:51:59.660 like that's not cultural 1.00
00:52:01.920 oh shit 1.00
00:52:02.680 there she is 1.00
00:52:03.480 mother allegedly
00:52:05.740 abandoned newborn
00:52:06.860 in trash bin
00:52:07.660 in Dorchester
00:52:08.040 charged with
00:52:08.500 attempted murder
00:52:09.220 yep
00:52:09.700 that's her 0.84
00:52:10.660 she didn't serve 0.99
00:52:12.480 any time
00:52:12.980 no way
00:52:13.720 she got probation
00:52:14.440 yeah
00:52:16.260 none of we weren't
00:52:17.000 very happy with that
00:52:18.000 well yeah
00:52:18.640 because you just
00:52:19.000 like the psychology
00:52:19.860 of that person
00:52:20.440 that's out in the world
00:52:21.120 how could they value life
00:52:22.400 yeah she doesn't
00:52:23.660 at least not that life
00:52:24.760 yeah and how could
00:52:25.620 you probably value
00:52:26.220 one of the most
00:52:26.720 precious lives
00:52:27.380 unless that maybe
00:52:28.340 there was some
00:52:28.740 I wonder if it was
00:52:29.680 an extreme circumstance
00:52:31.000 of how she had that child
00:52:32.080 but
00:52:32.340 we weren't told
00:52:33.260 we were in communication
00:52:34.060 with the DA
00:52:34.840 like they never told us
00:52:36.200 other than it being cultural
00:52:37.640 we're like 0.99
00:52:38.080 what the fuck 0.99
00:52:38.660 culture is that 1.00
00:52:39.200 that's not a culture
00:52:39.860 anywhere
00:52:40.280 yeah
00:52:40.760 well the media
00:52:41.960 likes to make it easier
00:52:43.120 yeah
00:52:43.920 but I think it took so long
00:52:45.620 because court cases
00:52:46.500 were just dragging on
00:52:47.700 because you know
00:52:48.340 nobody worked
00:52:48.900 during COVID
00:52:49.400 except us
00:52:50.020 or whatever
00:52:50.420 I think
00:52:51.940 like everyone
00:52:52.600 just gets tired
00:52:53.500 of it
00:52:53.720 and wants to go away
00:52:54.740 I don't know
00:52:55.320 crazy
00:52:56.560 yeah
00:52:58.140 I mean
00:52:58.660 stuff like that's
00:52:59.540 harrowing
00:53:00.040 you know
00:53:00.380 I don't know
00:53:01.680 how you can
00:53:02.440 I don't think
00:53:03.480 there's a way
00:53:03.800 to shed that skin
00:53:05.040 if you're
00:53:05.660 a police officer
00:53:07.040 or a detective
00:53:08.160 even though
00:53:09.260 it may seem
00:53:10.100 superficial
00:53:10.940 like in some ways
00:53:11.700 you can just move on
00:53:12.360 and finish your day
00:53:13.020 there's got to be
00:53:13.740 a part of you
00:53:14.320 inside of you
00:53:14.780 that stores
00:53:15.500 a lot of that
00:53:16.240 uncomfort
00:53:17.580 and like
00:53:18.300 an illness
00:53:19.960 it's got to be
00:53:20.880 you kind of
00:53:21.620 I'd say you learn
00:53:22.700 how to deal with it
00:53:23.700 I dealt with things
00:53:24.420 better years on
00:53:25.500 my job
00:53:25.920 than I did
00:53:26.340 when I was new
00:53:27.060 you know
00:53:27.840 stuff that used to
00:53:28.680 upset me
00:53:29.160 you have to 0.98
00:53:29.700 it's your brain
00:53:30.280 safety mechanism
00:53:31.140 so you don't lose 1.00
00:53:32.000 your goddamn mind 1.00
00:53:32.880 you know 1.00
00:53:33.200 I mean
00:53:33.380 you learn how to
00:53:34.160 that's why cops laugh
00:53:35.640 at murder scenes
00:53:36.640 like it's
00:53:37.900 tension release
00:53:38.640 we're not laughing
00:53:39.360 at a murder scene
00:53:39.960 like people are trying
00:53:40.620 to talk
00:53:41.080 and say
00:53:41.480 okay
00:53:41.940 everything's normal here
00:53:43.680 you know what I mean
00:53:44.400 his brain's on the street
00:53:46.720 and you're like
00:53:47.140 so you know
00:53:47.860 what are you going
00:53:48.600 to get for lunch
00:53:49.180 like we have to do
00:53:50.440 something to distract
00:53:52.240 distract your brain
00:53:53.120 and you get better
00:53:53.720 at it
00:53:54.120 yeah that's
00:53:55.260 this officer
00:53:56.840 that we had in
00:53:57.500 who came in
00:53:58.660 was talking about
00:53:59.260 he worked in Los Angeles
00:54:00.120 and he talked about
00:54:01.020 this one story
00:54:01.440 where he had
00:54:01.820 a mother had called
00:54:03.080 her son was going
00:54:03.680 to commit suicide
00:54:04.280 she was worried
00:54:05.060 and
00:54:06.140 and he gets there
00:54:08.880 and the mother
00:54:09.560 comes out to greet him
00:54:10.680 tell him what's going on
00:54:11.700 my son's inside
00:54:12.660 while they're outside
00:54:13.840 talking
00:54:14.260 the son
00:54:15.040 kind of steps
00:54:15.640 into the doorway
00:54:16.420 behind a screen door
00:54:17.220 kind of
00:54:17.580 and takes his own life
00:54:19.120 with a shotgun 1.00
00:54:19.600 oh shit 1.00
00:54:20.400 shotgun's messy man 1.00
00:54:21.620 so then
00:54:22.760 now he's standing
00:54:23.720 out here with the mother
00:54:24.460 so he has to
00:54:25.660 console the mother
00:54:26.600 at the same time
00:54:27.640 and now go
00:54:28.360 approach this situation
00:54:29.440 right
00:54:29.700 so you
00:54:30.260 you have to do
00:54:30.960 many
00:54:31.200 like
00:54:31.460 you're like 1.00
00:54:32.160 oh shit 1.00
00:54:32.780 I just saw someone 1.00
00:54:33.600 blow their head off 0.98
00:54:34.740 with a shotgun 1.00
00:54:35.300 and the mother's
00:54:36.260 screaming it on the ground
00:54:37.180 I'm sure
00:54:37.760 but yet it's still
00:54:38.820 like
00:54:39.120 not a crime scene
00:54:40.280 but it's an active
00:54:40.960 situation
00:54:41.300 it's an active scene
00:54:42.060 you have to
00:54:42.640 lock it down
00:54:43.520 so there's a lot
00:54:44.460 there's a lot
00:54:44.980 they're chaotic
00:54:46.000 especially if you're alone
00:54:47.640 there's only one or two
00:54:48.420 and there's a lot going on
00:54:49.360 they're very chaotic
00:54:50.180 yeah
00:54:51.380 I can't even imagine
00:54:52.860 how things go
00:54:53.720 from seeming real
00:54:55.020 and normal
00:54:55.600 to absolutely surreal
00:54:57.740 like in a moment
00:54:58.980 almost like you're in a movie
00:54:59.820 or a video game
00:55:00.640 I remember he said
00:55:01.620 he walked into the
00:55:02.520 he had to push
00:55:03.300 the door wouldn't open
00:55:04.140 all the way
00:55:04.360 because the body
00:55:04.800 was right there
00:55:04.940 the body's too heavy
00:55:05.600 yeah you have to push
00:55:06.420 him out of the way
00:55:06.980 so he's pushing this
00:55:08.420 and then he steps inside
00:55:09.720 and part of the brain matter
00:55:11.340 had hit the ceiling
00:55:12.200 and it fell down
00:55:12.840 the back of his shirt
00:55:13.580 oh I think
00:55:14.180 this was a Vegas guy
00:55:15.220 this was the Vegas sergeant
00:55:16.600 I think I saw that
00:55:17.360 on your podcast
00:55:17.920 well I think Brad
00:55:18.780 he may have done
00:55:19.420 he may have been in Vegas
00:55:20.220 for a bit
00:55:20.520 he may have been in LA
00:55:21.200 I believe
00:55:21.620 but um
00:55:22.520 but he
00:55:23.140 it's gross
00:55:24.060 like I've stepped in that
00:55:25.180 like how do you
00:55:26.100 like you said
00:55:26.600 how do you
00:55:27.060 really
00:55:27.400 oh no it wasn't him
00:55:29.640 that was Chris Curtis
00:55:30.860 yeah
00:55:31.400 this other guy was Brad White
00:55:32.560 but just fascinating
00:55:34.000 fascinating story
00:55:35.260 but just here
00:55:36.140 like
00:55:36.440 I don't think
00:55:38.000 nobody else goes to work
00:55:39.220 and has this
00:55:39.940 horror movie
00:55:40.740 that can happen
00:55:41.400 once in a while
00:55:42.440 yeah
00:55:42.640 please EMTs fire
00:55:43.780 that's kind of it
00:55:44.760 yeah
00:55:45.080 yeah
00:55:45.600 college football fans
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00:58:17.960 thank you
00:58:18.860 how much does the DA
00:58:22.120 you mentioned having a DA
00:58:23.360 what is that like
00:58:24.480 do police work better
00:58:26.520 under certain
00:58:27.240 mayoral
00:58:28.040 and district attorney
00:58:29.620 yes
00:58:30.140 leadership
00:58:31.580 yeah
00:58:32.260 they do
00:58:32.800 what's that whole
00:58:33.360 relationship like
00:58:34.200 like break it down
00:58:35.140 for me what that's like
00:58:36.260 well it
00:58:36.740 you know obviously
00:58:37.800 things are very
00:58:38.460 politically charged
00:58:39.300 right now
00:58:39.680 more so than
00:58:40.300 they've been in the past
00:58:41.140 I think in my experience
00:58:42.460 so it depends on
00:58:44.280 if your mayor
00:58:45.040 is supportive
00:58:45.660 or not
00:58:46.240 historically
00:58:46.960 I mean I had
00:58:47.740 several mayors
00:58:48.520 on in 31 years
00:58:49.640 as a police officer
00:58:50.760 and some are more
00:58:51.440 supportive than others
00:58:52.360 and some DA's
00:58:53.900 get elected
00:58:54.480 that are just like
00:58:56.060 oh we're not going to make
00:58:57.280 vandalism is no longer a crime
00:58:58.760 larceny is no longer a crime
00:59:00.100 shoplifting is no longer a crime
00:59:01.580 well the people in the stores
00:59:02.800 are still calling us
00:59:03.760 when someone's stealing 1.00
00:59:04.460 ten thousand dollars worth of shit 1.00
00:59:05.920 but the DA's like 1.00
00:59:07.160 not prosecuting
00:59:08.240 so now that's why 0.99
00:59:09.280 shit's locked up 0.99
00:59:09.940 in all these stores 1.00
00:59:10.700 it's the DA's
00:59:11.640 that were like
00:59:12.060 you know whether it's
00:59:13.300 the Soros DA's 1.00
00:59:14.200 or whoever the fuck they are 1.00
00:59:15.100 that got elected 1.00
00:59:15.680 that are softer on crime
00:59:16.880 or whatever
00:59:17.260 that's your job
00:59:18.240 as a district attorney
00:59:19.020 to prosecute crimes
00:59:21.200 and those are state laws
00:59:22.800 on the books
00:59:23.380 so if those laws
00:59:24.180 are still on the books
00:59:25.280 then why aren't you
00:59:26.040 prosecuting it
00:59:26.780 so that's why 1.00
00:59:27.520 shit is locked up 1.00
00:59:28.280 in CVS 1.00
00:59:28.980 because people can
00:59:30.080 indiscriminately steal
00:59:31.380 all over the country
00:59:32.600 they're not getting prosecuted
00:59:34.320 we had one guy
00:59:35.040 he was him
00:59:36.280 and his brother
00:59:36.820 doing it
00:59:37.380 they were like
00:59:38.140 two man wrecking team
00:59:39.160 every CVS
00:59:40.040 in Walmart
00:59:40.620 Walgreens
00:59:41.220 we added up
00:59:42.600 just like one kid
00:59:43.600 in one month
00:59:44.060 it was like
00:59:44.380 thirty thousand dollars 1.00
00:59:45.340 worth of shit he stole 1.00
00:59:46.240 now how is Target 1.00
00:59:47.280 or CVS recouping that
00:59:48.640 they're not
00:59:49.120 that's gone
00:59:49.940 but the DA's
00:59:50.840 doesn't care
00:59:51.640 so if you have a
00:59:53.640 like right now
00:59:54.440 there's a good DA
00:59:55.960 in Boston I think
00:59:57.400 and he's doing more
00:59:58.760 to make
01:00:01.120 you know
01:00:01.680 working with the officers
01:00:02.680 as a team
01:00:03.380 like we're on the same team here
01:00:04.680 we're just trying to prosecute
01:00:05.840 criminals
01:00:06.280 and help victims
01:00:07.340 and if
01:00:08.300 you know
01:00:09.040 the DA's
01:00:10.220 not supportive of that
01:00:11.460 like what about
01:00:12.040 all those victims
01:00:12.600 whose houses
01:00:13.120 are getting broken into
01:00:14.020 or their property's vandalized
01:00:15.640 and the DA's like
01:00:16.760 yeah we're not going to
01:00:17.460 prosecute that crime anymore
01:00:18.480 what about the people 0.99
01:00:19.600 whose shit's getting stolen 0.99
01:00:20.600 and ruined or whatever 1.00
01:00:21.820 like don't you care about them
01:00:23.160 right
01:00:23.500 and don't you care about
01:00:24.420 how they feel then
01:00:25.200 about their city
01:00:26.040 and about their country
01:00:27.060 and then you guys
01:00:28.520 are the ones
01:00:28.920 that have to deal with it
01:00:29.660 on the street level
01:00:30.340 oh everyone hates us
01:00:31.300 they take it out on you
01:00:32.240 but still
01:00:33.000 if someone hates the mayor
01:00:34.240 they take it out on the police
01:00:35.200 you know what I'm saying
01:00:35.540 it's like
01:00:35.860 and you guys
01:00:37.040 kind of can't
01:00:37.860 probably speak up on it
01:00:38.800 sometimes
01:00:39.020 because you're in a position
01:00:40.140 where you're working
01:00:41.600 under that regime
01:00:43.080 yeah
01:00:43.480 yeah I think about that
01:00:45.620 about the border too
01:00:46.440 sometimes
01:00:46.840 with like
01:00:47.280 you know
01:00:48.120 people illegally
01:00:48.880 coming across the border
01:00:49.780 and then
01:00:50.540 people can have
01:00:51.680 whatever thoughts
01:00:52.180 they want about
01:00:52.660 people coming over
01:00:53.420 right
01:00:53.580 I think everybody
01:00:54.160 needs to be
01:00:54.840 legally documented
01:00:55.820 that's here
01:00:56.260 however they figure that out
01:00:57.580 but you know
01:00:58.660 but the people
01:00:59.620 that matter
01:01:00.180 whose opinion
01:01:01.640 matters most to me
01:01:02.460 are the people
01:01:02.940 who live
01:01:03.520 what about the guy
01:01:04.500 right there
01:01:04.940 what about the border town
01:01:06.260 who's trying to put
01:01:07.000 his kids to sleep
01:01:07.740 at night
01:01:08.160 and they want to be
01:01:09.040 able to feel safe
01:01:10.000 just because they bought
01:01:11.580 a house somewhere
01:01:12.400 yeah
01:01:12.780 that there's not
01:01:14.380 people running
01:01:15.060 through their neighborhoods
01:01:15.820 whether those people
01:01:16.740 have good intentions
01:01:17.420 or bad
01:01:17.960 but just with the fear
01:01:19.160 it should happen
01:01:19.540 the fear that it puts
01:01:20.780 in their families
01:01:21.580 yes exactly
01:01:22.400 it's all quality of life stuff
01:01:23.920 it's all quality of life issues
01:01:25.220 and they don't seem
01:01:26.040 to get that
01:01:26.680 because it doesn't bother them
01:01:27.780 if they're living
01:01:28.320 in some you know
01:01:29.580 multi-million dollar house
01:01:30.740 somewhere
01:01:31.300 or a nicer part of the city
01:01:32.800 or state
01:01:33.340 it's not happening around them
01:01:34.600 like you said
01:01:35.000 the people in the border towns
01:01:36.200 they don't have a choice
01:01:37.640 yeah
01:01:38.500 especially
01:01:39.300 what about the guy
01:01:42.620 who's worked at CVS
01:01:43.580 for 20 years
01:01:44.140 and he loves it right
01:01:45.060 and he loves seeing people
01:01:46.360 come in
01:01:46.840 and he loves like
01:01:47.740 that's something
01:01:48.560 he knows some of the
01:01:49.520 older people
01:01:50.240 he's watched them
01:01:50.800 get older
01:01:51.140 and come in
01:01:51.500 and get their medicine
01:01:52.080 he's watched one of them
01:01:53.240 lose their spouse
01:01:54.000 over the years
01:01:54.540 and now they come in alone
01:01:55.540 but he's like a smile
01:01:56.940 in their life
01:01:57.600 once in a while
01:01:58.200 when they come in
01:01:58.900 and now he has to be
01:02:00.600 a deterrent to crime
01:02:02.220 yeah
01:02:02.440 they come in with trash bags
01:02:03.620 yeah
01:02:04.000 oh it's unbelievable
01:02:04.580 and literally just
01:02:05.140 clear the shop
01:02:06.140 they go and sell 1.00
01:02:07.000 all their stolen shit 1.00
01:02:08.420 at like the smaller bodegas 1.00
01:02:09.720 and convenience stores
01:02:10.780 so when they steal
01:02:11.800 all the detergent
01:02:12.640 and you know
01:02:13.860 all that
01:02:14.160 they steal
01:02:14.720 and baby formula
01:02:15.680 that's been locked up
01:02:16.400 for years
01:02:16.940 they go and sell
01:02:17.980 it someplace else
01:02:18.740 and the bodegas
01:02:19.880 is buying it off them 1.00
01:02:20.860 they know it's stolen shit 1.00
01:02:21.940 so they're a fault too 1.00
01:02:22.960 yeah
01:02:23.460 but like you said
01:02:24.680 the employee
01:02:25.320 what about him
01:02:26.320 like he doesn't want
01:02:26.980 to do that
01:02:27.340 when he goes to work
01:02:28.100 no
01:02:28.400 he's not a cop
01:02:29.680 he doesn't want to do that
01:02:30.520 he's not a cop
01:02:31.100 yeah
01:02:31.400 he doesn't want to chase people
01:02:32.540 yeah
01:02:33.120 that's the thing
01:02:33.720 they've made it so that
01:02:34.560 almost every person
01:02:35.560 has to feel like a cop
01:02:36.760 and then also
01:02:37.500 that there's not a lot
01:02:39.100 of support out there
01:02:39.920 and that's a sick thing
01:02:42.260 and our government
01:02:42.880 does that from the top down
01:02:43.900 and I believe
01:02:44.320 that there is a reason
01:02:45.460 they do that
01:02:46.000 they want to erode
01:02:48.000 a sense of community
01:02:50.780 and they want to erode
01:02:51.960 a sense of normalcy
01:02:52.980 and they're doing it
01:02:55.360 yeah
01:02:55.700 you know
01:02:56.120 who's the mayor
01:02:56.940 that they have now
01:02:57.600 over there
01:02:58.000 that's been supportive
01:02:58.760 do you feel like Cara
01:02:59.540 we haven't had a supportive mayor
01:03:01.600 that's the DA
01:03:02.300 Kevin Hayden
01:03:02.900 he's supportive
01:03:03.540 our mayor
01:03:04.300 okay hey boy
01:03:05.460 out of Newton huh
01:03:06.380 what's Newton like
01:03:07.860 is it good over there
01:03:08.700 Newton's a very
01:03:10.860 very nice city outside
01:03:12.060 it's a different city
01:03:13.880 than Boston
01:03:14.440 down in Newton over there
01:03:16.020 I definitely caught some
01:03:17.800 Newton's high end
01:03:18.720 Newton is
01:03:19.480 yeah
01:03:19.840 oh yeah
01:03:20.660 out of Newton
01:03:21.700 it's big money to live in Newton
01:03:22.700 Fig Newton they call it huh
01:03:23.980 it's big money to live there
01:03:25.200 oh god look at that
01:03:27.160 bunch of people probably
01:03:29.980 yeah he's from there
01:03:30.980 he lives in the city now
01:03:32.120 he's Suffolk County
01:03:32.920 he's not attached to the city
01:03:34.360 he's Suffolk County
01:03:35.200 but our prior DA
01:03:37.020 was atrocious
01:03:38.440 I bet every kid over there
01:03:39.740 has a signed
01:03:40.440 Tom Brady football
01:03:41.800 that's that kind of place
01:03:43.160 well he lived in Chestnut Hill
01:03:44.080 which is part of
01:03:45.060 Brookline and Newton
01:03:45.800 it's like all sandwiched
01:03:46.920 right in that neighborhood there
01:03:47.900 he lived in Chestnut Hill
01:03:49.040 yeah I bet all those kids
01:03:50.140 have that dude 1.00
01:03:51.000 yeah how has the DA support
01:03:53.960 been over the years
01:03:54.500 so this is a district
01:03:55.280 turning now
01:03:55.940 yeah he's good
01:03:56.780 was he during your term
01:03:58.680 he was there
01:03:59.940 when I retired
01:04:00.880 yeah
01:04:01.220 he was appointed by
01:04:02.340 Charlie Baker
01:04:02.760 preceded by Rachel Rollins
01:04:04.360 yeah thumbs down on her 1.00
01:04:05.820 oh she was another 0.96
01:04:07.460 district attorney
01:04:08.800 yeah
01:04:09.420 and now
01:04:10.340 so she
01:04:11.440 she became a US attorney
01:04:12.820 under Biden
01:04:13.740 and then she was
01:04:14.680 I believe fired
01:04:16.500 from US attorney
01:04:18.220 with some ethics violation
01:04:19.520 or some such
01:04:20.500 oh Biden would hire
01:04:22.180 anybody who's asleep 1.00
01:04:23.060 you fucking dude 1.00
01:04:24.960 he was fucking 1.00
01:04:26.160 he would hire 0.99
01:04:27.100 Fred Flintstone 1.00
01:04:28.380 to fucking sing him 1.00
01:04:29.280 to bed at night 1.00
01:04:29.820 thought she was a good fit
01:04:31.600 oh I'm sorry
01:04:32.500 she resigned before
01:04:33.480 she was canned
01:04:35.020 Rachel Rollins
01:04:35.560 was not formally fired
01:04:36.380 but resigned from position
01:04:37.300 in May 2023
01:04:37.920 following multiple
01:04:38.560 ethics investigations
01:04:39.520 and yeah
01:04:41.480 and I don't know
01:04:41.880 exactly what happened here
01:04:42.580 but what
01:04:43.080 what's it like
01:04:43.820 from one DA to it
01:04:44.540 like how can a DA affect
01:04:45.220 well she's the one 0.65
01:04:45.660 that decided
01:04:46.120 we weren't gonna prosecute
01:04:47.620 larcenies
01:04:48.400 shoplifting
01:04:49.340 vandalism
01:04:50.600 the minor crimes
01:04:51.800 and she used to say
01:04:53.060 those aren't
01:04:53.600 right
01:04:53.880 those aren't
01:04:54.440 I forget what
01:04:54.980 what verbiage was used
01:04:56.520 it was like
01:04:57.000 they're not
01:04:57.440 like not victimless crime
01:05:00.000 but they're trying to say that
01:05:01.160 no they're not
01:05:02.160 even if it's CVS
01:05:03.440 or Target
01:05:04.000 a big corporation
01:05:04.720 they're still losing
01:05:05.620 millions of dollars
01:05:06.560 it's totally victim
01:05:06.900 it was her
01:05:07.420 she was one of the ones
01:05:09.280 that was not supportive
01:05:10.820 and do you think
01:05:12.120 it's a DA
01:05:12.600 in that space
01:05:13.220 do you think
01:05:13.580 she's making her own choices
01:05:14.720 or do you think
01:05:15.240 that's coming down
01:05:15.880 from a higher
01:05:16.500 do you
01:05:17.380 allegedly
01:05:18.260 do you think
01:05:18.660 it's coming down
01:05:19.060 because it just seems crazy
01:05:20.320 to say we're not
01:05:21.180 gonna prosecute crime
01:05:22.260 how do you do that 0.99
01:05:22.860 it's fucking 0.98
01:05:23.440 it's a state law 1.00
01:05:24.520 how do you decide
01:05:25.860 what you're
01:05:26.300 during her campaign
01:05:27.660 Rollins pledged
01:05:28.700 to decriminalize
01:05:29.500 certain offenses
01:05:29.960 such as shoplifting
01:05:30.820 drug possession
01:05:31.760 yeah
01:05:32.180 wanton 0.70
01:05:32.980 oh wanton 1.00
01:05:34.800 or malicious
01:05:35.700 wanton malicious
01:05:36.360 yeah
01:05:36.740 or property
01:05:37.580 drug possession
01:05:38.200 intended to distribute
01:05:39.220 what
01:05:39.920 yeah
01:05:40.920 it's crazy
01:05:41.400 that's why
01:05:42.080 masks and cast
01:05:42.700 you've heard of
01:05:43.040 the part of boston
01:05:43.660 i don't know if you've
01:05:44.140 heard of the part of boston
01:05:44.620 called masks and cast
01:05:45.460 it is a disaster
01:05:46.560 down there
01:05:47.000 there's drug addicts
01:05:48.400 everywhere
01:05:48.860 they're all over the streets
01:05:50.180 they're destroying property
01:05:51.240 there's needles
01:05:51.860 all over the city
01:05:52.980 in south end
01:05:53.840 in that area
01:05:54.400 it's kind of
01:05:54.860 it was
01:05:55.360 it was focused there
01:05:56.900 and now they've tried
01:05:57.840 to kind of break it up
01:05:58.880 the last few years
01:05:59.620 because it was insane
01:06:00.600 and
01:06:01.700 now they've pushed it out
01:06:03.840 yeah there was
01:06:04.280 10 cities down there 1.00
01:06:05.400 look at this shit 1.00
01:06:06.360 yeah 1.00
01:06:06.960 and look
01:06:07.640 and some people say
01:06:08.340 this is just a bill
01:06:09.120 they have safe
01:06:09.800 shoot up zones there
01:06:10.880 they're letting them
01:06:11.480 shoot up heroin
01:06:12.780 in safe places
01:06:14.600 oh yeah
01:06:15.000 so now the needles
01:06:15.760 are all over the south end
01:06:16.860 and the poor people
01:06:17.480 in the south end
01:06:17.980 they pay a lot of money
01:06:18.980 to live there
01:06:19.640 these are beautiful brownstones
01:06:21.640 and now there's people 0.99
01:06:22.520 shitting in their front yards
01:06:24.220 throwing needles everywhere 0.99
01:06:26.400 breaking
01:06:26.720 say one guy was breaking
01:06:28.080 into the house
01:06:28.480 while people
01:06:28.860 it was under construction
01:06:29.680 the second floor
01:06:30.240 this was just a few weeks ago
01:06:31.320 and there's a guy's family
01:06:33.600 is there with his kids
01:06:34.440 and they had like
01:06:35.280 an old key or something
01:06:36.300 and they were breaking in
01:06:37.240 and going to like 1.00
01:06:37.880 shit in the floor 1.00
01:06:39.180 on the second floor 0.98
01:06:40.040 that was under construction
01:06:40.980 and he went up
01:06:41.540 and there's like 1.00
01:06:42.020 a pile of human shit 1.00
01:06:43.460 in his house 1.00
01:06:44.360 he's like
01:06:44.600 what is going on
01:06:45.320 they put up cameras
01:06:46.480 the guy was going in
01:06:47.180 and out every night
01:06:47.740 to like sleep on the floor
01:06:48.740 in his house
01:06:49.200 under construction 0.99
01:06:49.840 and shit on the floor 0.98
01:06:51.780 it's like the emoji 0.99
01:06:52.580 or whatever
01:06:52.980 yeah like
01:06:53.500 what is wrong with you
01:06:54.620 what
01:06:55.120 so that part of the city
01:06:57.120 I feel bad for people
01:06:58.020 who live down there
01:06:59.080 that's Atkinson Street
01:07:00.660 yeah
01:07:00.940 where is it
01:07:01.780 it's Atkinson Street
01:07:02.680 it's near the jail
01:07:03.320 yeah
01:07:03.740 well and look
01:07:04.300 and a lot of people say
01:07:05.060 this is just a bill's
01:07:05.980 tailgate or something
01:07:06.700 over here
01:07:07.040 I'm not saying that
01:07:08.300 some people say
01:07:09.000 this is a pinto tailgate
01:07:10.120 I'm not saying that
01:07:11.320 what we're saying
01:07:12.100 is that
01:07:12.720 this is a lot of
01:07:14.040 drug use
01:07:14.920 that's happening
01:07:16.420 over there
01:07:17.440 in this town
01:07:19.120 in Boston
01:07:19.580 yeah
01:07:19.920 but here's another thing though
01:07:21.320 they have this everywhere now
01:07:23.120 oh it's everywhere
01:07:24.100 every city has this
01:07:25.220 every democratically run city
01:07:26.980 I think
01:07:27.440 yeah
01:07:27.660 it could be run
01:07:28.240 well we don't have one here
01:07:29.940 I know that
01:07:30.560 I hope not anyway
01:07:31.460 I don't know
01:07:31.980 Austin got ruined
01:07:32.860 Austin was a blast
01:07:34.360 and I took my daughter
01:07:35.660 there several years
01:07:36.240 I'd been there
01:07:36.740 10 years ago
01:07:37.540 and I was like
01:07:37.840 this is the coolest place
01:07:39.040 reminds me of here
01:07:40.060 a little bit
01:07:40.620 like 6S
01:07:41.760 6 Street
01:07:42.160 where all the bars used to be
01:07:43.200 and then I went back
01:07:43.960 a few years later
01:07:44.760 because my daughter's
01:07:45.460 way into music
01:07:46.140 I wanted to take her
01:07:47.020 and she was afraid
01:07:48.480 to get out of the car
01:07:49.180 which is
01:07:49.580 there were homeless people
01:07:50.680 sleeping in hammocks
01:07:51.560 strung from street signs
01:07:52.900 in the street
01:07:53.420 and it was just rampant
01:07:54.660 before they
01:07:55.160 like if you're homeless
01:07:56.060 you got arrested there
01:07:56.940 yeah
01:07:57.240 which isn't the best thing
01:07:58.240 but you got to do something
01:07:59.380 they're like throwing bricks
01:08:00.720 through all the windows
01:08:01.460 that have been there
01:08:02.000 a long time
01:08:02.560 Austin got ruined 0.99
01:08:03.440 Seattle's a shithole 0.99
01:08:05.340 Portland 0.99
01:08:05.840 yeah
01:08:06.520 Portland is
01:08:07.240 I don't have to sneeze 1.00
01:08:08.200 but Portland is a shithole 0.99
01:08:10.320 but also it's awesome 0.99
01:08:11.640 I will say this
01:08:12.400 yeah I was up there
01:08:13.380 when I do landscape photography
01:08:14.920 as a hobby
01:08:15.380 or used to
01:08:15.860 and I went up to Oregon
01:08:17.140 and Washington
01:08:19.120 and it's the coolest place
01:08:21.180 like it's such a cool vibe
01:08:22.540 you know
01:08:22.840 but yeah I do think
01:08:23.660 that element that's out there
01:08:25.440 it's like why are we
01:08:26.780 it's like
01:08:27.560 I don't know their end game
01:08:29.020 like what is the point
01:08:29.800 of ruining all these cities
01:08:30.940 I think they want it to just
01:08:32.380 they want us to deteriorate
01:08:34.360 they want us to have
01:08:35.300 no sense of purpose
01:08:36.200 right
01:08:36.560 they want us to like
01:08:37.560 not have any pride
01:08:38.460 in the places where we are
01:08:39.560 because they've been so riddled
01:08:41.740 they get people
01:08:42.500 you know
01:08:43.220 the opioid epidemic
01:08:45.100 was put on America
01:08:46.280 and was allowed to occur
01:08:47.620 right
01:08:48.020 it wasn't like that
01:08:49.620 when I was young
01:08:50.140 no
01:08:50.520 they want this to happen
01:08:51.920 it is a
01:08:52.520 there is
01:08:53.200 it's no doubt to me
01:08:54.440 that this is an organized agenda
01:08:56.500 yeah I don't get it
01:08:57.480 but I believe that people
01:08:58.840 can fight back
01:08:59.480 and I believe that
01:09:00.340 I think it started a little bit
01:09:01.740 I think so
01:09:02.400 and I hope so
01:09:03.040 and also it gives you
01:09:03.920 a sense of purpose
01:09:04.580 in the world
01:09:05.040 it's like
01:09:05.400 you're here to defeat evil
01:09:06.760 you know
01:09:07.180 and we all can be a part of that
01:09:09.560 and I think it's something
01:09:10.320 that makes us feel that way
01:09:11.940 let's pivot a little
01:09:13.300 you ended up in the
01:09:15.860 oh quick question
01:09:16.580 did you ever see
01:09:17.600 Irish Mickey Ward
01:09:18.500 did you ever run across him
01:09:19.460 when you were running around
01:09:20.160 over there
01:09:21.000 did you ever hear about him
01:09:21.800 or anything
01:09:22.000 oh yeah he's a boxer
01:09:22.780 yeah
01:09:23.260 yeah I never ran across him
01:09:24.820 that's cool
01:09:25.680 yeah
01:09:26.040 yeah I was just watching
01:09:27.020 The Fighter the other day
01:09:28.140 and uh
01:09:29.360 that's about him right
01:09:30.200 about him yeah
01:09:30.720 wasn't he in it
01:09:31.480 didn't he play as the coach 0.99
01:09:32.680 or some shit 1.00
01:09:33.220 or something 1.00
01:09:34.060 no
01:09:34.440 I thought they gave him a part
01:09:35.860 he was in it at the end
01:09:36.940 okay
01:09:37.380 Christian Bale
01:09:39.260 Mark Wahlberg
01:09:40.360 that's when he got all skinny for it
01:09:41.680 yeah
01:09:41.880 such a great movie
01:09:43.020 but and all the sisters and stuff
01:09:45.240 they did such a great job
01:09:46.260 in that film
01:09:46.840 I got to go to watch
01:09:48.540 Lanie Wilson last night
01:09:49.660 oh that's right
01:09:50.340 the concert
01:09:50.780 how was it
01:09:51.200 I should have got y'all tickets
01:09:52.800 I didn't even know we're here
01:09:53.660 oh no goodness
01:09:54.680 that's okay
01:09:55.220 uh
01:09:55.820 it was so great
01:09:56.800 it was so great
01:09:58.200 Jelly Roll
01:09:58.920 uh
01:09:59.820 was there
01:10:00.360 so I got to see him
01:10:01.940 Ella Langley
01:10:02.680 I got to meet her
01:10:03.480 uh
01:10:04.180 she has a beautiful voice
01:10:05.500 um
01:10:06.620 it was just great
01:10:07.960 it was like a special time
01:10:09.620 nice
01:10:10.020 yeah
01:10:10.340 and Lanie's just a boss 1.00
01:10:11.880 she's just turned into like a
01:10:14.080 some people start to step into
01:10:16.360 whatever gift
01:10:17.180 they were given in the world
01:10:18.220 and some people kind of
01:10:19.760 uh
01:10:20.180 meander around the outside of it
01:10:21.680 I think
01:10:22.060 and
01:10:22.960 and no way is
01:10:25.140 is like a Vic
01:10:26.040 is better than the other really
01:10:27.300 I think it's all
01:10:27.900 by person
01:10:29.240 but she has just really
01:10:30.620 embraced this role
01:10:31.820 of just being like this
01:10:32.980 on stage presence
01:10:34.040 yeah
01:10:34.360 it was really powerful to watch
01:10:36.320 she does a great job
01:10:37.180 um
01:10:38.000 pivoting
01:10:39.420 anyway
01:10:39.760 that's uh
01:10:40.620 you ended up in
01:10:42.760 the human trafficking unit
01:10:44.280 yeah
01:10:44.880 so I was
01:10:45.340 is that the safe term
01:10:45.840 or how does that work
01:10:46.480 yeah that's
01:10:46.780 so I was in
01:10:47.580 a district detective
01:10:48.360 at Dorchester
01:10:48.920 and then I went
01:10:49.800 for several years
01:10:50.740 like five years or so
01:10:51.820 to the human trafficking unit
01:10:52.940 and then I went back
01:10:54.020 to Dorchester
01:10:54.680 but yes
01:10:55.120 I had a five year stint
01:10:56.360 to the human trafficking unit
01:10:57.200 as a detective
01:10:57.820 so
01:10:58.720 what
01:10:59.580 what is your definition
01:11:00.340 of human trafficking
01:11:01.140 let's just get that clear
01:11:02.040 because you hear so much
01:11:03.120 right
01:11:03.260 like
01:11:03.460 a few years ago
01:11:04.240 you would hear this social kickball
01:11:05.620 that was big
01:11:06.200 this was big four years ago
01:11:07.240 and everybody notices
01:11:07.900 it's gone now
01:11:08.640 right
01:11:08.920 notice how the kickballs fly
01:11:10.700 yeah
01:11:10.920 it's like oh
01:11:11.560 that's the big thing
01:11:12.340 everybody's commenting on it online
01:11:13.880 and now it's gone
01:11:14.880 right
01:11:15.120 it's really out of the zeitgeist
01:11:16.560 I know it's still
01:11:17.380 there's still things happening
01:11:18.760 but notice how that happens
01:11:20.620 right
01:11:20.880 and everybody's like
01:11:21.840 you'd see memes online
01:11:23.100 it's like tonight
01:11:23.700 while you sleep
01:11:24.400 one and a half million children
01:11:26.460 will be
01:11:26.920 taken on trains
01:11:28.660 across America
01:11:29.440 being human trafficked
01:11:30.300 and you're like 1.00
01:11:30.740 what in the shit dude 1.00
01:11:32.240 so 1.00
01:11:32.800 what did you really see
01:11:34.300 what were you expecting
01:11:35.220 when you got into that space
01:11:36.440 so I didn't know
01:11:37.240 like everybody else
01:11:38.220 I didn't really know
01:11:39.020 what that meant
01:11:39.600 I just you know
01:11:40.280 I knew
01:11:40.700 someone asked me
01:11:41.860 if I wanted to join the unit
01:11:43.300 and you know
01:11:44.140 I didn't know a lot about it
01:11:45.460 I thought it was just like
01:11:46.200 the movies
01:11:46.560 like you know
01:11:46.980 people being snatched
01:11:47.860 off the street
01:11:48.500 and forced into 0.99
01:11:49.540 to be prostitutes 0.97
01:11:51.520 in my experience 0.94
01:11:53.360 at least when I did it
01:11:54.360 that was not the case
01:11:55.460 so I guess human trafficking
01:11:58.040 is like when someone's
01:11:59.000 trafficked for the purpose
01:11:59.960 of to sell sex 0.80
01:12:01.060 right against their will 0.51
01:12:02.260 through you know
01:12:03.240 coercion
01:12:04.300 or force
01:12:05.200 or threats
01:12:05.820 or whatever
01:12:06.200 but when I got there
01:12:08.960 a lot of the cases
01:12:10.280 we had
01:12:10.920 it's funny
01:12:11.660 there were just
01:12:12.240 several pimps
01:12:13.640 that kind of ran
01:12:14.460 in the city
01:12:14.980 that were involved
01:12:15.880 you always came back
01:12:16.760 to the same
01:12:17.240 like six or seven guys
01:12:18.360 who always had
01:12:19.100 all these different
01:12:19.620 women working for them 0.98
01:12:20.500 and it was always girls
01:12:22.260 not always
01:12:23.180 I shouldn't say that
01:12:23.900 mostly it was girls
01:12:25.220 from the neighborhood
01:12:26.460 or just outside the city
01:12:27.940 like the suburbs
01:12:28.720 or whatever
01:12:29.120 and something in their life 0.99
01:12:30.620 like was fucked up 0.98
01:12:31.800 whether it was 0.99
01:12:32.520 you know
01:12:33.160 a parent situation
01:12:34.080 where they had one parent
01:12:35.140 or they'd been like
01:12:35.820 sexually abused 0.87
01:12:36.520 as kids themselves
01:12:37.240 or there was like
01:12:38.640 a DCF
01:12:39.220 which is Department of
01:12:40.060 Children and Families
01:12:40.760 like there were foster kids
01:12:41.960 it was always
01:12:42.540 kind of something
01:12:43.360 missing
01:12:43.880 it could just be
01:12:44.480 they weren't getting
01:12:45.080 attention at home
01:12:46.040 or they weren't happy
01:12:46.940 and the pimps
01:12:48.420 a lot of them
01:12:48.960 could be very charming
01:12:49.920 and they would meet
01:12:51.100 these girls 0.99
01:12:51.620 they'd just meet them
01:12:52.640 in the street
01:12:53.040 go to the train station
01:12:53.980 they hang at the T
01:12:54.980 at the T
01:12:56.320 in Boston
01:12:57.000 or I had one girl
01:12:58.340 it was a guy
01:12:58.780 I started talking
01:12:59.520 to when she was
01:13:00.560 walking down the street
01:13:01.400 and like
01:13:02.460 oh you're pretty
01:13:02.980 you want to be
01:13:03.360 in a music video
01:13:04.060 and she's like
01:13:04.800 she's like a teenage girl 0.52
01:13:05.820 yeah that'd be cool
01:13:06.740 and she went
01:13:07.240 and like they shot the video
01:13:08.300 and then like say
01:13:09.720 like we have to finish
01:13:10.480 the video
01:13:10.880 and then they like
01:13:11.840 make her go to another state
01:13:13.160 and like
01:13:13.680 oh we're gonna take pictures
01:13:14.860 of you
01:13:15.060 and put you online
01:13:15.840 and you're gonna
01:13:17.940 you know 0.99
01:13:19.240 have sex with these guys 1.00
01:13:20.160 for money 1.00
01:13:20.520 they don't get any of the money
01:13:21.440 the pimps get all the money
01:13:22.440 so that was a situation
01:13:25.180 where it was kind of
01:13:26.160 she was not willing 0.60
01:13:28.000 like that was kind of
01:13:28.960 a quick one
01:13:29.480 like over a week or two
01:13:30.320 but a lot of them
01:13:30.940 they groom the girls 0.97
01:13:31.660 for a long time
01:13:32.400 oh you don't have any money
01:13:33.780 I'll give you some money
01:13:34.440 I'll take you to get
01:13:35.060 your nails done honey
01:13:35.940 I had one guy
01:13:36.840 I literally had text messages
01:13:38.520 for like a month's worth
01:13:39.680 and you could see him grooming her
01:13:41.160 she worked in a store
01:13:42.940 I think her dad
01:13:44.120 her mother was
01:13:44.980 who was deceased
01:13:45.680 and her dad now wanted
01:13:46.740 to be a woman
01:13:47.360 and it was like 1.00
01:13:47.960 fucking with her head 1.00
01:13:48.780 and he like changed his name 1.00
01:13:49.840 to Susan or something
01:13:50.860 and she met this guy
01:13:52.320 working in a store
01:13:53.180 and he was like
01:13:54.420 he's like
01:13:55.140 oh you're working today honey
01:13:56.120 I'll bring you a tuna sandwich
01:13:57.300 and I don't want you hungry
01:13:58.820 and it was
01:13:59.220 you could see
01:13:59.640 it was like
01:14:00.100 you know
01:14:00.800 this progression of a relationship
01:14:02.880 and like a month later
01:14:04.140 she was like
01:14:05.220 oh that's my boyfriend
01:14:06.080 a lot of them think
01:14:06.580 this pimp's their boyfriend
01:14:07.920 and like a month later
01:14:09.780 you could see the messages
01:14:10.620 he's like
01:14:11.040 all right
01:14:11.280 we have seven guys coming in
01:14:12.840 and you know
01:14:14.740 you're going to do
01:14:15.720 all seven of them
01:14:16.540 at a party
01:14:17.060 there's like a bachelor party 0.99
01:14:18.180 or some shit 0.98
01:14:18.780 and then she's like 0.99
01:14:19.760 can I keep you know
01:14:20.620 a hundred bucks
01:14:21.220 for the piggy bank
01:14:22.020 and he's like
01:14:22.540 no it's all mine
01:14:23.480 it was like a thousand dollars
01:14:24.580 so it's like
01:14:25.760 they see something
01:14:26.800 missing in their lives
01:14:27.780 and they just manipulate them
01:14:29.200 or they're like
01:14:29.700 they're a little messed up
01:14:30.480 to begin with
01:14:31.240 they're like
01:14:31.520 they're in a bad situation
01:14:32.560 they don't know how
01:14:33.120 to get out of it
01:14:33.840 they think these guys
01:14:34.880 are boyfriend
01:14:35.280 you'll do this
01:14:35.800 if you love me 1.00
01:14:36.400 kind of shit 1.00
01:14:37.040 so that was a lot 1.00
01:14:38.300 of the sex trafficking
01:14:38.840 that you saw huh
01:14:39.580 yeah that's what
01:14:40.280 that was in my experience
01:14:41.380 yes there wasn't
01:14:42.280 a lot of people
01:14:43.140 being snatched off the street
01:14:44.320 like no one's being
01:14:45.100 shipped in
01:14:45.660 in a shipping container
01:14:46.800 from Russia
01:14:47.360 and all these girls 0.68
01:14:48.680 getting you know
01:14:49.360 the nail salon
01:14:49.980 the spas
01:14:51.560 are a little bit different
01:14:52.240 the Asian women
01:14:53.000 they were moving them around
01:14:54.700 yeah
01:14:55.940 they had a lot of those
01:14:56.560 the massage salons
01:14:57.480 yeah
01:14:57.880 but those were tough
01:14:59.620 because the second
01:15:00.320 we try to like
01:15:01.240 go in and
01:15:02.640 they move
01:15:03.200 they're gone
01:15:04.000 they're gone
01:15:04.280 they're gone to New York
01:15:04.740 yeah
01:15:05.260 New Jersey
01:15:05.740 different women 0.97
01:15:06.640 they're gone
01:15:07.260 they don't know their names
01:15:08.180 there's like
01:15:09.040 how many different dialects
01:15:10.340 can't pronounce the name
01:15:11.220 Chinese
01:15:11.720 and you're trying to get
01:15:12.940 our Chinese officers
01:15:13.700 hey can you translate this
01:15:15.040 and they're like
01:15:15.500 it's a different dialect
01:15:16.420 like it was a disaster
01:15:17.360 so
01:15:17.900 those were tough
01:15:19.280 yeah you don't even know
01:15:20.000 you're like
01:15:20.500 we're looking for
01:15:20.980 so we did those
01:15:23.960 yeah that's crazy 0.99
01:15:24.600 that kind of shit's wild 0.99
01:15:25.500 and I don't like 1.00
01:15:26.140 those kind of places
01:15:26.860 I'll say that
01:15:27.460 I'll walk into one of those
01:15:28.560 salons or whatever 0.99
01:15:29.340 I say if anybody jerks 0.99
01:15:31.220 me off 1.00
01:15:31.840 I'm jerking them off 0.99
01:15:33.620 that's what I tell them 1.00
01:15:34.860 no homo 1.00
01:15:35.480 I'm just saying 0.71
01:15:36.280 but I'm
01:15:36.880 you know what I'm saying
01:15:37.360 I'll put the pressure
01:15:37.960 on everybody in the building
01:15:39.080 just so everyone knows
01:15:39.800 what you're going into 0.98
01:15:40.360 don't even jerk me off 0.91
01:15:41.340 if somebody tries to even 0.76
01:15:42.260 sneak up on me 0.99
01:15:43.020 and jerk me off 1.00
01:15:43.860 some of these girls 1.00
01:15:44.400 would sleep in there
01:15:45.180 they would sleep on the beds
01:15:46.480 at night when it closed
01:15:47.240 yeah they'd sleep
01:15:47.260 and then they wake up 0.99
01:15:48.020 and jerk you off 1.00
01:15:48.700 that's the problem 0.99
01:15:49.420 but one of them had
01:15:50.160 we went in one
01:15:50.680 there was sink
01:15:51.180 there were baby turtles
01:15:52.180 in the sink
01:15:52.740 filled with water
01:15:53.340 swimming around
01:15:53.940 I'm like what the 0.99
01:15:54.620 the fuck is that 0.99
01:15:55.480 they like the animalia in there 1.00
01:15:56.480 they love aqua animals
01:15:57.760 I don't know what the hell
01:15:59.720 they were doing
01:16:00.160 I don't know what they were
01:16:01.240 doing with those things 0.99
01:16:02.080 we're like what the fuck 0.98
01:16:03.740 I don't know 0.99
01:16:04.980 you know
01:16:05.660 and we also did
01:16:06.640 party human trafficking
01:16:07.760 and we did
01:16:08.320 what we call john stings
01:16:09.840 we target the sex buyer
01:16:11.400 rather than
01:16:12.000 that's kind of a
01:16:12.880 it was a European model
01:16:14.020 that they found to be
01:16:14.920 more effective
01:16:15.420 rather than
01:16:16.540 you know cops used to
01:16:17.320 arrest the prostitute 0.95
01:16:18.340 well what about the guy 0.99
01:16:19.320 paying for it
01:16:20.320 of course yeah
01:16:20.940 so then you target
01:16:22.320 that angle of it
01:16:23.860 like we're going to tell you
01:16:24.580 if you don't have buyers
01:16:25.760 then no one's going to be
01:16:27.180 selling it
01:16:27.660 to try to do it
01:16:28.500 kind of backwards that way
01:16:29.620 so we would do
01:16:30.240 what we call john stings
01:16:31.420 and we'd put
01:16:32.120 ads online
01:16:33.160 back page doesn't exist anymore
01:16:34.660 but we'd put them on that
01:16:35.780 it was craigslist first
01:16:37.200 and then it was back page
01:16:38.360 I don't know how they're doing it now
01:16:39.340 whether it's on
01:16:40.060 insta
01:16:41.360 or you know
01:16:42.280 tiktok
01:16:43.240 I don't know where the hell
01:16:43.860 they're doing it now
01:16:44.240 I've been out of the unit
01:16:44.940 for about six years now
01:16:46.080 you'd have parties
01:16:46.980 and people would find people
01:16:48.020 on back page
01:16:48.540 and invite them over
01:16:49.300 you know
01:16:49.620 and like 0.52
01:16:49.880 they would hire strippers 0.94
01:16:51.880 and stuff like that
01:16:52.560 to come and dance
01:16:53.320 or hang out
01:16:53.740 so it was definitely a place
01:16:55.000 where people were kind of
01:16:56.120 eliciting illegal
01:16:57.220 oh yeah
01:16:57.640 that was there
01:16:58.320 when you put an ad in
01:16:59.800 you could pay extra
01:17:00.620 to bump it at the top
01:17:01.640 so it was so prevalent
01:17:02.740 when we were doing it
01:17:03.580 like we'd put an ad
01:17:04.460 in the morning
01:17:04.880 say I put my ad on
01:17:05.920 like three or four of us
01:17:07.900 in the office
01:17:08.340 would do fake ads
01:17:09.240 and you'd have to do
01:17:09.820 like real photos
01:17:10.560 because the guys
01:17:11.140 who were doing it
01:17:11.700 all the time
01:17:12.460 like we'll do reverse
01:17:13.660 Google image search
01:17:14.580 to find out
01:17:15.140 did this picture appear
01:17:16.020 someplace else
01:17:16.600 so they know
01:17:16.920 if it's a fake photo
01:17:17.840 because then maybe
01:17:18.580 you're a cop
01:17:19.060 or you're not going to look
01:17:19.780 like who you're
01:17:20.680 pretending you look like
01:17:21.820 so we'd all put our ads up
01:17:23.840 and then you know
01:17:25.060 you put on at 8
01:17:25.880 at 8.30
01:17:26.500 your phone's ringing
01:17:27.300 it's crazy
01:17:28.240 8.30 in the morning
01:17:29.260 they're already starting to call
01:17:30.500 and we'd set up our dates
01:17:31.500 for the day
01:17:31.940 like we'd have a hotel room
01:17:33.140 and we'd be waiting
01:17:34.540 in the hotel room
01:17:35.220 and we'd have dates set up
01:17:36.200 every half an hour
01:17:36.940 to show up
01:17:37.560 and would y'all hide
01:17:38.140 under the bed
01:17:38.640 no no it's hiding
01:17:39.660 under the bed
01:17:39.980 I would have to open the door
01:17:41.160 and there'd be like guys
01:17:43.000 like in the bathroom
01:17:43.940 officers in the bathroom
01:17:44.880 behind the wall
01:17:45.620 so my trick was
01:17:46.640 I was at like 45
01:17:48.480 46 when I was doing it
01:17:49.680 and my ad
01:17:50.160 I'm supposed to be 34 0.99
01:17:51.120 I didn't fucking look 34 0.98
01:17:52.680 but I'd open the door 0.96
01:17:53.680 I'd have like my hair
01:17:54.420 oh you would be the girl 0.99
01:17:55.740 oh I was a prostitute 1.00
01:17:56.600 yeah 0.99
01:17:56.980 what
01:17:57.560 yeah
01:17:58.020 so I'd have to talk
01:17:59.600 to them on the phone
01:18:00.260 what were y'all
01:18:00.640 understaffed or something
01:18:01.840 they just shouldn't have you
01:18:02.720 also the detective
01:18:03.420 well no you have to have
01:18:04.600 you're the one
01:18:05.220 you're the one
01:18:05.600 establishing probable cause
01:18:07.040 so it
01:18:07.940 if someone else
01:18:09.580 is doing it
01:18:10.240 and then you have to
01:18:11.180 like go testify in court
01:18:12.300 well you're not the one
01:18:13.060 that had the interaction
01:18:13.840 with them
01:18:14.320 so what we do
01:18:15.300 we put our ad
01:18:16.060 online
01:18:16.940 you'd put your photos 1.00
01:18:18.040 and some stupid saying 1.00
01:18:19.300 like you know 1.00
01:18:20.200 what you're offering
01:18:20.900 and how much it costs
01:18:21.720 and of course
01:18:22.620 it's acronyms
01:18:23.260 for everything
01:18:23.840 that's what I didn't know
01:18:24.680 anything about this
01:18:25.620 before I started
01:18:26.180 about GFE
01:18:26.780 which is girlfriend experience
01:18:28.080 means he'll kiss you
01:18:29.080 full service 1.00
01:18:31.380 means like sex 1.00
01:18:32.340 and a blow job 1.00
01:18:33.140 and then there's like 0.99
01:18:34.140 Russian and Greek
01:18:35.180 and there's all these 1.00
01:18:35.660 stupid acronyms 1.00
01:18:36.460 for everything else 1.00
01:18:37.280 and they thought
01:18:39.520 they were being clever
01:18:40.380 by saying
01:18:41.080 oh I want GFE
01:18:42.600 so they're not asking 0.99
01:18:43.660 for sex
01:18:44.360 oh I see 0.98
01:18:45.200 so by them saying
01:18:46.140 I want GFE
01:18:46.980 or I want Russian
01:18:48.140 or I want this
01:18:49.440 they think they're being clever
01:18:50.640 except you can say
01:18:51.480 like well based on my
01:18:52.240 training experience
01:18:52.920 I know Russian means
01:18:53.940 titty job
01:18:54.560 like or whatever
01:18:55.280 and then so
01:18:56.400 you taught
01:18:57.020 they call you on the phone
01:18:58.060 titty job
01:18:58.860 yeah that's a Russian
01:18:59.700 by the way
01:19:00.080 I didn't know that
01:19:00.720 I'll take it
01:19:01.360 I mean whatever
01:19:02.360 you know what I mean
01:19:03.180 it is
01:19:03.520 I'm sorry
01:19:04.140 yeah
01:19:04.540 it's okay
01:19:05.180 so you'd
01:19:06.020 you'd basically
01:19:06.840 talk to them on the phone
01:19:07.760 they'd call you
01:19:08.540 and some of them
01:19:09.040 were real nervous
01:19:09.640 obviously
01:19:10.100 you could tell
01:19:10.620 the long timers
01:19:11.380 they got right to business
01:19:12.380 and some of them
01:19:12.880 want to flirt
01:19:13.380 with you on the phone
01:19:14.260 or whatever
01:19:14.600 can you send pictures
01:19:15.460 of your eyes
01:19:16.040 or your feet
01:19:16.520 the foot fetish guys
01:19:17.740 are out there
01:19:18.180 big time
01:19:18.700 but
01:19:19.420 and then you're like
01:19:20.200 the more you do it
01:19:21.400 I'm like
01:19:21.620 I don't have time 1.00
01:19:22.040 for this shit 1.00
01:19:22.500 like 1.00
01:19:22.940 do you want to come
01:19:23.740 you were showing up
01:19:24.340 or not
01:19:24.620 so you'd basically
01:19:25.340 make the arrangement
01:19:26.200 so once they showed up
01:19:27.320 you already have
01:19:27.800 probable cause
01:19:28.380 they already agreed
01:19:29.480 to pay you 0.99
01:19:30.160 for sex 0.98
01:19:30.820 before they ever 0.90
01:19:31.440 showed up
01:19:31.920 so then by them
01:19:33.000 showing up
01:19:33.540 at the hotel
01:19:34.100 they're like
01:19:34.520 basically completing
01:19:35.460 the entire
01:19:36.660 the elements
01:19:38.660 of the crime
01:19:39.260 they showed up
01:19:40.220 they already agreed
01:19:40.960 to pay you
01:19:41.480 for such and such
01:19:42.240 so then you can arrest them
01:19:43.220 right when they get there
01:19:44.040 really
01:19:44.260 yeah
01:19:44.580 but like
01:19:45.440 depending where we do it
01:19:46.400 if we did it
01:19:46.900 like nights
01:19:47.400 or downtown parts
01:19:48.320 of the high-end hotels
01:19:49.120 would let us use their rooms
01:19:50.200 oh yeah
01:19:50.760 high-end would have to do
01:19:51.580 anything in there
01:19:52.320 every time we did it
01:19:53.300 we got a doctor 0.99
01:19:54.000 every fucking time 0.99
01:19:56.380 the Brigham Hospital 0.99
01:19:57.460 one of the best hospitals
01:19:58.440 in the world
01:19:58.880 allegedly
01:19:59.360 the Beth Israel
01:20:00.560 one guy showed up
01:20:01.500 in scrubs
01:20:02.140 with like Beth Israel
01:20:03.800 hospital on it
01:20:04.640 yeah 1.00
01:20:05.160 like what the fuck 1.00
01:20:06.300 you on lunch break 1.00
01:20:07.040 it was crazy
01:20:08.200 we got a doctor
01:20:09.000 every time
01:20:09.480 why you think
01:20:10.080 I don't know
01:20:11.100 too busy
01:20:11.660 too busy to get a girlfriend
01:20:12.900 I don't know
01:20:14.660 I don't know
01:20:16.100 are there
01:20:17.880 yeah
01:20:18.180 I wonder what that is
01:20:19.180 it's just interesting
01:20:19.780 I don't know
01:20:19.960 it was
01:20:20.240 we always got
01:20:21.140 and when we did it
01:20:22.220 in like the
01:20:22.740 not so nice parts of town
01:20:24.800 then we'd get like
01:20:25.640 you know
01:20:25.920 the cable guys
01:20:26.900 and the plasterers
01:20:28.360 and for some reason
01:20:29.220 I always felt bad for them
01:20:30.240 they didn't have any money
01:20:30.900 but it's the same crime
01:20:32.340 so I shouldn't have felt bad for them
01:20:33.660 they were just
01:20:34.660 you know
01:20:35.100 but I did
01:20:35.940 the rich guys
01:20:36.700 because they got very arrogant
01:20:37.840 when you tried to arrest them 0.97
01:20:39.860 they were all arrogant 0.82
01:20:40.880 we had 0.98
01:20:41.200 one guy
01:20:42.200 who's a Northeastern University
01:20:43.340 professor
01:20:44.220 and he was on the phone with me
01:20:46.480 saying I'm a professor
01:20:47.420 and he was trying to
01:20:48.740 talk me down on my prices
01:20:50.080 I don't make a lot of money
01:20:51.340 oh yeah
01:20:51.420 that's what I would do
01:20:52.140 I would text him
01:20:52.840 look how about this
01:20:53.940 $70
01:20:54.460 some lady's coming over 1.00
01:20:56.040 for $70
01:20:56.920 I'm like Jesus
01:20:57.720 and now I'm like
01:20:58.680 I was just
01:20:59.540 like
01:21:00.080 I would
01:21:00.940 he was bargaining with me
01:21:02.640 I don't make a lot of money
01:21:03.860 meanwhile
01:21:04.140 I made more money than me
01:21:05.260 yeah
01:21:05.640 but he
01:21:05.980 I always laugh
01:21:07.020 he wanted me
01:21:07.520 he's like
01:21:07.820 will you put me in yoga positions
01:21:09.240 that's what he wanted 1.00
01:21:10.240 he's fucking freaks 0.99
01:21:10.960 I'm like yeah 1.00
01:21:11.320 I got my lulus on
01:21:12.280 come on over
01:21:12.920 like you just
01:21:13.620 he wanted to be in yoga positions
01:21:15.540 me to put them in them
01:21:16.780 and then aggressive kissing 0.97
01:21:18.080 and when you get some weird requests
01:21:19.960 or anything like that
01:21:20.680 yeah
01:21:20.920 like look anything pretty wild
01:21:23.360 like were they
01:21:23.860 any like people
01:21:24.520 you'd enjoy them
01:21:25.400 and their wife
01:21:25.940 like join something like that
01:21:26.860 no
01:21:27.100 nothing
01:21:27.740 we never got those
01:21:28.800 we got a lot
01:21:29.560 almost everybody was married
01:21:30.900 one of them we did
01:21:31.780 we met him in a bar
01:21:33.040 he said it was the end of the night
01:21:34.020 he was too nervous
01:21:34.720 to come to a hotel
01:21:35.380 he said he'd never done this before
01:21:36.520 or whatever
01:21:36.860 so we agreed to meet him
01:21:38.340 downstairs
01:21:38.820 the hotel had a bar downstairs
01:21:40.260 and I was just sitting there
01:21:41.520 and now again
01:21:42.580 I'm supposed to be 34
01:21:43.780 and even 10 years ago
01:21:44.820 I didn't look 34
01:21:45.780 I think you look great 0.99
01:21:46.620 I don't fucking look 34 0.95
01:21:48.000 but thank you 0.95
01:21:48.740 but so I'm sitting at the bar waiting
01:21:50.860 and the signal is for like me
01:21:52.120 to touch my hair
01:21:53.000 and there's two cops
01:21:53.620 down the end of the bar
01:21:54.480 and he comes in
01:21:55.960 I see him walk past
01:21:57.020 he comes in
01:21:57.540 and the bar is crowded
01:21:58.380 I see this guy walk in
01:21:59.460 I said that's him
01:22:00.080 I knew it was him
01:22:00.880 you could tell like his face was
01:22:02.300 he wasn't like
01:22:03.180 hey I just got to a bar
01:22:04.460 and he's all chilled
01:22:05.140 he was like intense
01:22:06.560 scared
01:22:06.920 and he walked right past me
01:22:08.180 and went to the men's room
01:22:09.000 and looked at him
01:22:09.420 like that's him 1.00
01:22:10.060 he's got his fucking Burberry scarf on 1.00
01:22:12.020 and his you know 1.00
01:22:12.600 $400 jacket
01:22:13.700 yeah
01:22:14.320 and he came over
01:22:15.040 and approached me
01:22:15.880 a librarian son
01:22:17.040 he tapped me
01:22:17.660 and said oh my name
01:22:19.160 or whatever
01:22:19.540 and then when they came up
01:22:21.640 to arrest him
01:22:22.440 he fainted
01:22:23.320 we had so many guys faint
01:22:25.060 or like clacks on the bed
01:22:26.680 he went
01:22:27.420 his face
01:22:28.000 he was white as a ghost
01:22:29.180 and he just went down 0.90
01:22:30.200 so the officers like
01:22:31.020 drag him out to the vestibule
01:22:32.240 of the bar
01:22:32.600 we're like
01:22:32.860 we got to call this guy
01:22:33.580 in the ambulance
01:22:33.960 but he snapped to it 1.00
01:22:34.900 and he's crying and shit 0.99
01:22:36.240 and he's like 0.99
01:22:36.600 he's like 30 years old
01:22:38.240 and like dude
01:22:39.160 he's like
01:22:39.660 I'm so anxious all the time
01:22:41.660 I'm trying to get my wife pregnant 1.00
01:22:43.420 and I was like
01:22:44.220 you think you're going to get her pregnant 1.00
01:22:45.580 by fucking a prostitute 1.00
01:22:47.220 like what is wrong with you 1.00
01:22:48.580 I mean it's worth a shot
01:22:49.640 you know what I'm saying
01:22:50.660 I'm not saying that
01:22:51.720 but I'm just saying 1.00
01:22:52.440 you go fuck a stranger 1.00
01:22:54.220 and they none of them 1.00
01:22:55.280 nobody wants to use a condom
01:22:56.420 that was bareback
01:22:57.100 that was another code
01:22:57.860 oh they were doing barebacks
01:22:58.940 yeah that was a code
01:22:59.760 BBBJ
01:23:00.540 bareback
01:23:01.100 bareback
01:23:01.660 blood drop
01:23:02.180 so they didn't want to
01:23:04.660 oh there you go
01:23:05.540 here you go
01:23:06.340 bareback 0.99
01:23:06.780 sex without condom 0.99
01:23:07.920 BBBJ 0.99
01:23:09.180 and they'll ask you
01:23:09.620 how much extra
01:23:10.340 like how much will you charge me
01:23:11.980 for a bareback
01:23:12.960 so none of them wanted to use a condom
01:23:14.420 so they're all going home
01:23:15.260 to their families 1.00
01:23:16.000 after fucking some rando 1.00
01:23:17.760 who's having sex 1.00
01:23:18.900 with five people that day
01:23:20.000 yeah
01:23:20.320 like how many
01:23:20.980 not to mention
01:23:21.620 what township is it in
01:23:22.680 just Boston
01:23:23.760 yeah
01:23:24.180 oh yeah
01:23:24.460 so this guy's bringing
01:23:25.220 oh I'm trying to get my wife pregnant 1.00
01:23:26.620 what are you bringing home
01:23:28.180 hmm
01:23:28.900 yeah 1.00
01:23:29.900 bottom bitch 1.00
01:23:31.480 that's the pimp's main girl 1.00
01:23:33.500 she's the one who runs it for him
01:23:34.800 really
01:23:34.960 I see that in the terminology
01:23:36.040 yeah
01:23:36.460 let's see some more terms here
01:23:38.640 the in call
01:23:39.800 the escorts
01:23:40.200 that's only B
01:23:40.840 see
01:23:41.260 they go on forever
01:23:42.420 huh
01:23:43.300 yeah
01:23:44.900 and were people ever asked
01:23:46.420 so I'm trying to think of anything
01:23:47.520 were people ever asking for like
01:23:48.940 golden showers
01:23:49.680 urination type of things
01:23:50.900 I never had
01:23:51.640 I never got asked for those
01:23:53.100 one thing they asked me for
01:23:54.040 the guy's like
01:23:54.500 will you do a handy
01:23:56.000 and I was like
01:23:56.780 is that a quick hand job
01:23:58.080 like I had no idea 0.99
01:23:58.940 what the fuck it was 0.98
01:23:59.700 and my partner at the time 0.99
01:24:00.720 is like googling
01:24:01.760 on the urban dictionary
01:24:02.640 like what's that
01:24:03.640 it was some crazy thing
01:24:04.660 about choking
01:24:05.340 and she's on top 0.74
01:24:06.980 and then you flip
01:24:07.740 and he's on
01:24:08.460 I was like 0.99
01:24:08.780 how the fuck 0.99
01:24:09.420 do they come up 1.00
01:24:09.920 with these names
01:24:10.500 like what does that even mean
01:24:11.520 that's all that 0.99
01:24:11.900 Cirque du Soleil shit 0.99
01:24:13.060 people are doing now 1.00
01:24:13.920 it's crazy
01:24:13.940 like how is that a handy
01:24:15.160 because I was like
01:24:16.080 is that a
01:24:16.520 like what is that
01:24:17.260 that's all that
01:24:17.760 welterweight stuff
01:24:18.660 I think
01:24:19.020 I don't know what it is
01:24:20.180 what about
01:24:20.820 was there a lot of stuff
01:24:21.580 like people want you to touch 0.99
01:24:22.500 the hole in their butt 0.99
01:24:23.640 or anything 1.00
01:24:23.920 like any weird stuff
01:24:24.840 no they never got that
01:24:25.780 specific on the phone 0.99
01:24:26.800 but they would ask for anal 0.99
01:24:27.840 that was Greek 0.99
01:24:28.440 they were like
01:24:28.840 one of them
01:24:29.660 they're clever way
01:24:30.540 they're like
01:24:30.860 ooh do you speak any languages
01:24:32.060 so then I'm supposed to say
01:24:33.940 yeah I speak Greek and Russian
01:24:35.320 that's what I mean
01:24:35.760 they think they're clever
01:24:36.560 they have all these weird
01:24:37.560 online forums
01:24:38.440 where they talk about
01:24:39.500 the prostitutes 0.60
01:24:41.080 they rate them 0.91
01:24:42.220 I forget what the page
01:24:43.300 they used to rate them on
01:24:44.460 so that's why we had to
01:24:45.280 change up our photos
01:24:46.120 and use real stuff
01:24:47.060 because these guys
01:24:48.020 all talk to each other
01:24:49.000 the long
01:24:49.620 the guys that do it all the time
01:24:50.820 not the one timers
01:24:51.860 the lifers
01:24:52.480 yes or dabblers
01:24:53.840 like yourself
01:24:54.500 dabblers yeah
01:24:55.460 in and out
01:24:57.540 in and out
01:24:58.320 in and out
01:24:58.720 yeah they talk to each other
01:24:59.780 and rate the girls
01:25:00.680 it's crazy
01:25:01.480 it's a crazy life
01:25:02.500 and when would a night like that
01:25:04.060 for you guys end
01:25:04.920 like was there a certain point
01:25:05.940 where you guys
01:25:06.300 yeah we kind of call it
01:25:07.500 so like the calls would start
01:25:08.620 coming in the morning
01:25:09.260 and we'd like
01:25:09.740 we'd have you know
01:25:10.480 hire overtime to transport
01:25:11.840 because they'd be showing up
01:25:12.860 sometimes they'd show up
01:25:13.520 at the same time 1.00
01:25:14.240 like oh shit 1.00
01:25:14.840 they're coming to the same room 0.99
01:25:15.840 so we'd try to stagger the dates
01:25:17.320 dates
01:25:18.720 and we'd have them schedule
01:25:19.980 the area hour
01:25:20.680 every half hour
01:25:21.340 whatever
01:25:21.580 and after like
01:25:22.740 8 or 10 hours
01:25:23.420 the boss would call it
01:25:24.360 we always did a Super Bowl weekend
01:25:25.940 it was
01:25:26.340 Cook County
01:25:28.540 in Illinois
01:25:30.040 did a big
01:25:31.060 funding thing for it
01:25:32.440 they got money from the feds
01:25:33.440 and they all kind of agreed to do it
01:25:34.620 so at certain times of year
01:25:35.620 Super Bowls
01:25:36.620 were always when we did it
01:25:37.720 so we'd call it a night
01:25:38.900 after like
01:25:39.320 after we arrested
01:25:40.320 like 12
01:25:40.820 14 people
01:25:41.600 or whatever
01:25:41.960 she'd be like
01:25:42.480 alright that's enough
01:25:43.120 stop answering the phones
01:25:44.220 so on most Super Bowl weekends
01:25:47.040 you guys are doing that
01:25:47.840 we were
01:25:48.240 when we were in the
01:25:48.620 human trafficking unit
01:25:49.300 yeah
01:25:49.540 but we got one guy
01:25:51.340 he was
01:25:51.620 I was talking to him
01:25:52.720 on the phone
01:25:53.220 I'm like
01:25:53.560 this guy is so 0.99
01:25:54.720 fucking old 0.98
01:25:55.640 now I'm laughing 0.99
01:25:56.240 I was very shy about it
01:25:57.360 when I first started doing that
01:25:58.180 but I don't know who
01:25:58.680 the hell 0.98
01:25:59.440 I'm not a prostitute 0.99
01:26:00.520 I don't talk to these people
01:26:01.500 so I'd be all anxious
01:26:02.740 like hiding in the bathroom
01:26:04.040 so there's just 8 cops
01:26:05.260 and I don't want them
01:26:06.080 listening to me
01:26:06.720 like yeah 1.00
01:26:07.140 you can stick in my ass 1.00
01:26:08.100 for an extra 50 1.00
01:26:08.780 like I was embarrassed
01:26:09.640 and then I got more comfortable
01:26:11.400 and they would just be laughing
01:26:12.320 like I'd just be like
01:26:13.300 yeah this is what you want
01:26:14.220 okay and everybody's laughing
01:26:15.480 one guy
01:26:16.160 yeah come on my forearms
01:26:17.360 or whatever
01:26:17.780 for 30 bucks
01:26:18.720 sounded so old
01:26:20.100 and he's like
01:26:20.520 you gotta you know
01:26:21.260 yeah I'm an older gentleman
01:26:23.160 and I remember saying
01:26:24.000 that's alright
01:26:24.320 I'll take it easy on ya
01:26:25.480 and then he shows up
01:26:26.720 he's like
01:26:27.320 shorter than me
01:26:28.220 turns out he's like
01:26:29.340 multi-millionaire
01:26:30.440 philanthropist
01:26:31.180 from Beacon Hill
01:26:31.980 on the boards of like
01:26:33.480 Children's Hospital
01:26:34.260 and all this crazy
01:26:35.180 he laughed
01:26:35.760 he burst out laughing
01:26:36.680 when he got arrested
01:26:37.240 he was a tiny little guy
01:26:38.240 with glasses
01:26:38.620 he laughed 0.99
01:26:39.300 everyone else shits himself 0.88
01:26:40.540 or gets angry 0.96
01:26:41.260 but he laughed
01:26:42.760 he's the only one 0.98
01:26:43.280 he didn't give a shit 0.99
01:26:44.220 he's like 0.99
01:26:44.740 yeah I'll pay the fine
01:26:45.460 I don't care
01:26:46.620 just get my phone back
01:26:47.820 we take all their phones
01:26:49.060 and I remember
01:26:49.680 I was doing a detail
01:26:50.540 at Fenway Park
01:26:51.440 and he was in contact
01:26:52.880 he's like
01:26:53.300 I paid my fine
01:26:54.000 can I get my phone back
01:26:54.860 because we take their phones
01:26:55.620 as evidence
01:26:56.060 we have to show their
01:26:56.820 text messages or whatever
01:26:57.880 and if they plead
01:26:59.540 pay the fine
01:27:00.540 or plead out
01:27:00.980 they get their property back
01:27:01.980 because the case is done
01:27:03.600 but if they're fighting it
01:27:05.020 then we keep the evidence
01:27:06.140 because we have to
01:27:06.900 you know
01:27:07.200 do a search warrant
01:27:07.900 on the phone
01:27:08.340 and all this stuff
01:27:09.020 he's like
01:27:09.600 yeah I paid my fine
01:27:10.460 he literally
01:27:11.240 he showed up at the red
01:27:12.180 I'm like
01:27:12.580 I'm working in detail
01:27:13.460 like you can come
01:27:14.140 and get it
01:27:14.660 so I was in uniform
01:27:15.880 that day
01:27:16.260 because normally
01:27:16.580 I'm not in uniform
01:27:17.200 and he showed up
01:27:18.760 and he's laughing
01:27:19.400 in the car
01:27:19.860 I'm like
01:27:20.120 here's your phone
01:27:20.620 I'm like
01:27:20.840 what's the matter
01:27:21.300 with you
01:27:21.600 like why don't
01:27:22.620 you got
01:27:22.980 we got money
01:27:23.620 go get a girlfriend 0.99
01:27:24.260 he's like
01:27:24.640 ah
01:27:25.120 it's not worth the trouble
01:27:26.240 I was like
01:27:26.600 alright
01:27:26.820 have a good day 0.99
01:27:27.980 he did not give a shit 0.99
01:27:29.880 wow 0.99
01:27:30.300 yeah
01:27:30.680 gosh dude
01:27:33.040 did you
01:27:35.920 did you ever
01:27:36.640 just like
01:27:37.420 accidentally
01:27:37.980 just hook up
01:27:38.780 with one of them
01:27:39.260 like did that ever
01:27:39.940 happen
01:27:40.600 no
01:27:41.140 no
01:27:41.920 that didn't happen
01:27:43.080 like did one ever
01:27:43.900 show up and you're like
01:27:44.480 oh this guy's kind of cute
01:27:45.360 I wish it wasn't like this
01:27:46.500 no I never thought
01:27:47.540 I wish it wasn't like this
01:27:48.560 but yeah
01:27:49.120 some of them weren't
01:27:50.000 you know
01:27:50.360 that's what we say
01:27:50.940 some of them are good looking
01:27:51.940 you're like
01:27:52.260 what's go get it
01:27:53.060 what's wrong with you
01:27:53.880 like you're good looking
01:27:54.800 we used to say
01:27:55.320 like you're a good looking dude
01:27:56.540 you can get a girlfriend
01:27:57.440 some of them are like 0.99
01:27:58.220 fucking grotesque 0.99
01:27:59.180 like you can see 1.00
01:27:59.700 why they're paying for it
01:28:00.760 like I said the doctors
01:28:01.920 don't have time
01:28:02.620 maybe I don't know
01:28:03.380 they don't want the commitment
01:28:04.240 but some of them
01:28:04.820 would be good looking dudes
01:28:05.600 like what's wrong with you
01:28:07.340 I think for some guys
01:28:08.660 they have a
01:28:09.740 their sexual experience
01:28:11.160 especially if it starts off
01:28:11.780 with pornography
01:28:12.280 a lot of times
01:28:12.800 is really skewed
01:28:13.440 well that's an issue
01:28:14.060 now they don't know
01:28:14.780 what's real life
01:28:15.500 you know
01:28:15.940 but then it's safe
01:28:17.380 like you know
01:28:18.140 if it starts off
01:28:18.800 with pornography
01:28:19.160 it's very skewed
01:28:19.920 right
01:28:20.120 because this is
01:28:20.740 an environment
01:28:21.960 that's kind of like
01:28:22.760 you can get exactly
01:28:25.040 what you want
01:28:25.500 out of pornography
01:28:25.940 you can just put the terms
01:28:26.900 in you get what you want
01:28:27.820 and that's your intimacy
01:28:30.500 so that's how you build it
01:28:31.640 right
01:28:31.880 so then
01:28:32.740 it almost makes
01:28:34.140 it doesn't
01:28:34.900 it's not right
01:28:35.820 doesn't make anything right
01:28:36.860 or anything like that
01:28:37.600 and some people
01:28:38.320 you know
01:28:39.820 like prostitution 0.99
01:28:40.500 is one of the oldest
01:28:41.240 businesses in the universe
01:28:42.980 right
01:28:43.240 it's always been there
01:28:44.040 but some people
01:28:46.600 they
01:28:46.960 the next
01:28:48.540 the closest way
01:28:49.520 they can get somebody
01:28:49.960 is almost just
01:28:50.420 trying to create
01:28:51.220 the same thing
01:28:51.740 but in real life
01:28:52.480 right
01:28:52.680 so like
01:28:53.000 I need to create
01:28:53.680 the same thing
01:28:54.140 where it's like
01:28:54.420 I can kind of get
01:28:55.080 what I would like
01:28:55.880 yeah
01:28:56.160 these are my google terms
01:28:58.100 these are the things
01:28:58.600 that I like
01:28:59.120 and I'm going to pay for that
01:29:00.320 they don't want to waste time
01:29:01.200 maybe
01:29:01.460 I don't know
01:29:01.920 oh I think some people
01:29:02.600 for sure
01:29:03.040 it's time
01:29:03.500 it's like
01:29:03.760 I don't want to
01:29:04.240 have a big relationship 0.99
01:29:05.260 I just want to have some sex 0.98
01:29:06.260 I don't want to take someone 0.99
01:29:06.620 out to dinner
01:29:07.140 every you know
01:29:07.880 twice a week
01:29:08.500 and spend hundreds
01:29:09.200 and there's a lot of that
01:29:09.940 that goes on
01:29:10.360 and I don't look down
01:29:11.220 upon any of it
01:29:12.000 I just think
01:29:12.620 it's interesting that
01:29:13.820 you know
01:29:14.540 but yeah
01:29:15.200 the laws are the laws
01:29:15.980 and that's just what
01:29:17.120 your experience was like
01:29:17.840 yeah
01:29:18.120 so what I learned
01:29:19.060 like I
01:29:19.440 you know
01:29:19.840 it's like
01:29:20.220 hey if a girl wants to do it 1.00
01:29:21.640 but in reality
01:29:23.200 I think 99% of the time
01:29:24.680 they're not making a dime
01:29:25.680 so they're doing it all
01:29:27.020 and the pimp's taking all the money
01:29:28.060 so that's why I was like 0.99
01:29:28.980 well that sucks 0.88
01:29:29.640 I had like one girl 0.89
01:29:31.260 who was like
01:29:31.900 no there's not much I make
01:29:33.340 and she does
01:29:33.800 what's something called
01:29:34.360 sissy play 1.00
01:29:34.920 and I was like
01:29:35.400 what's
01:29:35.700 guys who like
01:29:36.600 not want to get hurt
01:29:38.180 but close to
01:29:39.120 not like sadomasochism
01:29:40.780 or whatever
01:29:41.180 but
01:29:41.940 she made a lot of money 0.50
01:29:44.040 she's like
01:29:44.640 I make you know
01:29:45.140 $500 an hour
01:29:46.160 or whatever
01:29:46.660 and I was like 1.00
01:29:47.460 shit 1.00
01:29:48.060 you know 1.00
01:29:48.720 I mean my partner
01:29:49.260 would be like
01:29:49.600 we need a new job
01:29:50.540 when we retire
01:29:51.400 like what the hell
01:29:52.460 but she kept her own money
01:29:54.460 but literally out of everyone else
01:29:56.120 I ever met
01:29:56.640 they didn't
01:29:57.160 they didn't keep it
01:29:57.960 they had to hand it over
01:29:58.840 so guys think
01:29:59.740 when we try to do it
01:30:00.900 it's like an education thing
01:30:02.100 we tell the guys
01:30:02.880 when we wrestle
01:30:03.840 I'm like
01:30:04.120 we're not doing this to her
01:30:05.040 because they're always like
01:30:05.680 don't tell my wife
01:30:06.560 like everyone would panic
01:30:07.880 for sure
01:30:08.520 say look
01:30:08.840 it's kind of what's supposed to
01:30:10.360 at the time
01:30:10.820 like an education thing
01:30:11.840 we're trying to make you aware
01:30:12.760 these girls 0.99
01:30:13.300 you think
01:30:13.700 you're doing something
01:30:15.100 you're paying for the service
01:30:16.560 they're giving you the service
01:30:17.480 and everyone leaves happy
01:30:18.560 but the girls weren't getting the money 1.00
01:30:19.980 they were getting the shit 0.99
01:30:20.700 kicked out of them 0.98
01:30:21.280 half the time
01:30:21.780 that's heartbreaking
01:30:22.480 so
01:30:23.160 oh yeah
01:30:25.640 happy stuff
01:30:26.480 I hated telling people
01:30:27.780 I worked there
01:30:28.300 because it was like
01:30:28.760 a conversation killer
01:30:29.820 like you'd see people's shoulders
01:30:31.160 just droop
01:30:31.820 you're like
01:30:32.340 oh you work at the NPR
01:30:33.140 they're like
01:30:33.760 oh
01:30:34.160 so you know
01:30:35.600 nothing good there
01:30:36.760 nothing good happening there
01:30:38.240 well it's just interesting
01:30:39.560 how perverse
01:30:40.320 like sexuality can get
01:30:41.640 and the things that cause it
01:30:42.700 in our world
01:30:43.220 you know
01:30:43.560 it's another thing
01:30:44.340 why they even allow
01:30:45.200 pornography to exist
01:30:46.320 like
01:30:46.620 I don't know if we need it
01:30:48.400 like as readily available
01:30:49.860 as it is
01:30:50.960 we had a woman come on 1.00
01:30:51.940 named Lila McElwaite
01:30:53.140 and she was telling us
01:30:54.580 that a lot of the pornography
01:30:55.500 you see online
01:30:56.140 it's non-consensual
01:30:58.640 right
01:30:59.000 and so a lot of times
01:31:00.400 you could have somebody 0.92
01:31:01.000 basically masturbating 0.98
01:31:02.380 or watching 0.99
01:31:03.360 and enjoying
01:31:05.100 a crime
01:31:06.740 and they don't even know it
01:31:07.560 so just the whole circle
01:31:08.960 of it all
01:31:09.280 is kind of depraved
01:31:09.600 yeah it's the same thing
01:31:10.480 but then I have friends
01:31:12.180 that do sex work
01:31:13.780 and they work for themselves
01:31:15.320 and they're masterful at it
01:31:17.140 fair enough
01:31:18.040 if they're working for themselves
01:31:19.520 and they want to do that
01:31:20.720 and they're making the money
01:31:21.520 that is victimless
01:31:23.740 yeah
01:31:24.180 and I think
01:31:24.980 and people may have issues
01:31:26.100 with people on both sides
01:31:27.200 of the transaction
01:31:27.900 probably have some issues
01:31:29.220 and may or may not
01:31:31.020 it could be different
01:31:31.740 but
01:31:32.100 but
01:31:33.460 anyway
01:31:34.020 yeah that would just be
01:31:36.340 but yeah
01:31:37.000 some people are into weird stuff
01:31:37.840 I had a buddy
01:31:38.360 he would hire a woman 0.96
01:31:39.280 just to tickle him 1.00
01:31:40.060 until he shit himself 0.99
01:31:41.020 oh 1.00
01:31:41.480 fuck 1.00
01:31:41.980 this is some weird shit out there 1.00
01:31:43.560 there's a lot of fetishes man 1.00
01:31:45.040 that's what I found out
01:31:45.720 but I started putting my feet
01:31:46.860 in the photos
01:31:47.520 because I was like
01:31:48.080 I gotta get the foot fetish guy 0.95
01:31:49.340 yeah yeah
01:31:49.780 because people want some
01:31:50.860 like the guy wanted me
01:31:51.680 to put him in yoga positions
01:31:53.000 how does that do it for you
01:31:54.680 yeah
01:31:55.040 it's bizarre
01:31:55.960 like you said
01:31:56.440 the guy wanted to tickle 1.00
01:31:57.340 until he got to shit 1.00
01:31:58.300 yeah 0.99
01:31:58.980 that's a really specific wish
01:32:00.640 oh if you tickle me
01:32:01.880 like how do you get there
01:32:02.560 yeah
01:32:03.000 how do you get there
01:32:03.900 and like were you tickled as a kid
01:32:05.320 and were like 0.99
01:32:05.940 oh no I'm gonna shit myself 0.99
01:32:07.320 and then as an adult 1.00
01:32:08.100 that's what does it for you
01:32:09.320 probably I don't know
01:32:10.340 where you watch a funny movie
01:32:11.460 and then you have to pee
01:32:12.260 like maybe
01:32:12.700 I don't know
01:32:13.100 I don't know how you start
01:32:13.900 I don't know how you get there
01:32:15.220 but yeah
01:32:15.660 if somebody tickled me 0.99
01:32:16.340 and all that shit 0.99
01:32:16.780 I would be upset 1.00
01:32:17.400 right
01:32:18.160 I think overall
01:32:19.480 I think most would
01:32:21.140 did you ever feel like
01:32:21.940 you had to be like a protector
01:32:23.100 for these women
01:32:23.600 or did a lot of them
01:32:24.200 feel like they just
01:32:24.680 they were in their own space
01:32:25.900 and that's what they wanted
01:32:26.720 and it's not something
01:32:27.420 you can really help with
01:32:28.280 like a lot of the women 1.00
01:32:28.900 it was a lot of the case
01:32:29.740 it was a lot of
01:32:30.660 I feel like you're just
01:32:31.700 banging your head off the wall
01:32:32.560 going nowhere 0.99
01:32:33.080 you help somebody
01:32:34.460 you get them
01:32:34.820 you get them away from somebody
01:32:36.060 you get them into
01:32:36.660 it's like a safe home
01:32:37.640 like there was a woman
01:32:39.080 who ran a non-profit
01:32:40.020 a place to put these people
01:32:41.260 get them some clothes
01:32:42.300 like a lot of them
01:32:43.160 they'd steal their shoes
01:32:44.380 and their IDs
01:32:45.040 and their phones
01:32:45.740 or whatever
01:32:46.100 so they couldn't run away
01:32:47.220 so you find them
01:32:48.460 a place to stay
01:32:49.300 and you know
01:32:50.000 get them target gift cards
01:32:51.360 they can go buy
01:32:51.940 like a toothbrush
01:32:52.580 and some soap
01:32:53.580 and then like
01:32:54.100 in the middle of the night 0.99
01:32:54.580 they jump out the fucking window 1.00
01:32:55.700 so like you do 0.99
01:32:56.980 you're like
01:32:57.500 getting called out of your house
01:32:58.660 at 10 o'clock at night
01:32:59.300 to go help somebody
01:33:00.080 and then they're like
01:33:01.140 oh well she's gone
01:33:02.180 and so many of them
01:33:03.440 ended that way
01:33:03.980 or they just disappeared
01:33:04.680 they wouldn't testify against them
01:33:05.960 so the cases went nowhere
01:33:06.960 so it was a little frustrating
01:33:08.340 yeah I think it's people
01:33:09.820 you can't help people
01:33:10.620 until they are ready
01:33:11.320 for some help
01:33:12.020 no
01:33:12.060 exactly
01:33:12.500 what about any
01:33:14.560 was there any gay 0.98
01:33:15.300 was there any gay pimps 0.99
01:33:17.060 out there 0.98
01:33:17.420 was that kind of thing
01:33:18.400 I don't know
01:33:18.600 or did a guy ever lie
01:33:19.660 and say like
01:33:20.080 when you busted him
01:33:20.920 like say you set him up 1.00
01:33:22.360 with a female prostitute 1.00
01:33:23.300 and he just like 0.98
01:33:24.580 he was like
01:33:25.020 I'm gay
01:33:26.000 I'm just joking
01:33:26.660 you know
01:33:27.060 happy Halloween
01:33:27.860 or whatever
01:33:28.380 no
01:33:28.820 they never tried that
01:33:30.180 I mean the jig's up
01:33:31.100 as soon as they show up
01:33:32.160 god
01:33:32.600 most of them knew it
01:33:33.800 they like fall on the bed
01:33:35.440 a couple of them cry
01:33:36.780 like really
01:33:37.720 yeah
01:33:39.500 but no
01:33:40.840 none of them
01:33:41.280 no one ever tried
01:33:42.000 to show the gay card 0.74
01:33:43.400 and be like 0.91
01:33:43.800 it wasn't me
01:33:44.440 I'm just here for fun
01:33:46.200 yeah
01:33:46.600 I'm just
01:33:47.040 I was just joking 1.00
01:33:47.680 just fucking with you 1.00
01:33:48.360 yeah 1.00
01:33:48.720 yeah
01:33:49.380 dude
01:33:49.860 you had a
01:33:52.320 you had an investigation
01:33:53.480 you had a three year investigation
01:33:55.260 that you worked on
01:33:56.620 yeah
01:33:57.060 that was a human trafficking case 0.76
01:33:59.140 that I did with
01:34:00.000 someone from
01:34:01.280 Homeland Security Investigations
01:34:02.580 okay
01:34:02.880 and what was that
01:34:03.600 like take me through
01:34:04.220 some of that story
01:34:04.760 you had a three year investigation
01:34:05.660 that actually started
01:34:06.600 with the one I told you
01:34:07.400 the girl the music video
01:34:08.500 okay
01:34:08.960 that's how it started
01:34:10.240 and we
01:34:11.160 we got a call to children's
01:34:12.680 from children's hospital
01:34:13.720 in Boston
01:34:14.240 saying this girl there 0.86
01:34:16.140 said she was raped
01:34:16.960 in Rhode Island 0.81
01:34:18.040 oh
01:34:18.400 she I think she was 15
01:34:20.420 maybe
01:34:20.860 or 16
01:34:21.840 that's how that case started
01:34:23.300 and then we found out
01:34:24.960 all she had was a nickname
01:34:26.920 wasn't even guys real name
01:34:28.260 she had like
01:34:28.660 his Facebook page
01:34:30.160 and a nickname
01:34:30.840 like Smokey or something
01:34:32.200 yeah
01:34:32.460 I don't want to say it
01:34:34.140 okay
01:34:34.380 sorry never mind
01:34:35.160 no the guy
01:34:35.740 yeah
01:34:36.160 I was just guessing
01:34:36.840 if it was Smokey
01:34:37.300 no it wasn't Smokey
01:34:38.400 okay
01:34:38.620 so she all shares a nickname
01:34:40.980 and we kind of worked
01:34:41.960 backwards from that
01:34:43.240 like one of the Homeland Security
01:34:44.500 agents drove the girl 0.99
01:34:45.380 she's like oh
01:34:45.900 this this woman
01:34:46.800 drove me to Rhode Island
01:34:48.220 but she wasn't involved
01:34:49.100 but she drove me
01:34:50.120 and this is where she lived
01:34:52.120 she lived in this neighborhood
01:34:53.020 that's where I had to meet her
01:34:53.980 so the Homeland Security
01:34:54.880 guys started driving around
01:34:56.120 and we saw the car
01:34:57.240 in the neighborhood
01:34:57.680 and got the license plate
01:34:58.700 so then I start looking
01:35:00.220 on my end
01:35:00.820 because he doesn't have
01:35:01.420 access to Boston Police Reports
01:35:02.600 I start looking for the license plate
01:35:04.120 and a car that matches
01:35:06.560 her description
01:35:07.160 because we don't know
01:35:07.760 if it's exact
01:35:08.340 and I find a car
01:35:09.240 but it's a guy's name
01:35:10.360 but then I start looking
01:35:11.520 for reports with someone
01:35:12.540 for that last name
01:35:13.400 and then I found a woman 0.84
01:35:14.340 with that last name
01:35:15.860 and with her first name
01:35:16.700 because she told me
01:35:17.400 the girls 0.99
01:35:17.700 she knew the woman's first name
01:35:19.660 all we had was a first name
01:35:21.040 and a red car
01:35:21.720 so then I find
01:35:23.220 the last name
01:35:24.060 in the car registration
01:35:25.280 I find old reports
01:35:26.660 with this woman
01:35:27.380 with their first name
01:35:28.820 and the same last name
01:35:29.700 and we're like 1.00
01:35:30.180 oh shit 0.99
01:35:30.840 that we pull up 1.00
01:35:31.780 you know
01:35:32.180 we did a photo raid
01:35:33.160 show the girl 1.00
01:35:33.700 and she's like
01:35:34.220 that's her 0.84
01:35:34.840 so then we start
01:35:36.140 talking to her
01:35:36.820 and we end up going
01:35:37.560 it was like a spider web
01:35:39.260 so these two guys
01:35:40.840 there were two guys
01:35:41.580 who pimped her out 0.99
01:35:42.460 in Rhode Island 0.98
01:35:43.440 but she did get raped 0.99
01:35:44.240 by some guy 0.96
01:35:44.720 the guy in Rhode Island
01:35:45.480 got like seven years
01:35:46.880 for the rape
01:35:47.360 or something
01:35:47.860 because she did not
01:35:50.200 go willingly
01:35:50.760 and those two guys 0.80
01:35:53.900 worked for another pimp
01:35:55.160 and he had women 0.97
01:35:57.840 all I think
01:35:58.660 he was in his late 20s
01:36:00.480 and he had
01:36:02.380 I think like 11 baby mamas
01:36:04.880 and like 17 kids
01:36:06.700 or 14 kids
01:36:08.240 something crazy
01:36:09.080 but he had like 27
01:36:11.100 28 victims
01:36:12.200 girls that worked for him
01:36:13.220 over a period of time 1.00
01:36:14.320 including a bottom bitch 1.00
01:36:15.620 she's like the girl 1.00
01:36:16.300 that works for him
01:36:17.100 who recruits girls 0.63
01:36:18.500 and is basically
01:36:19.360 in charge of everything
01:36:20.320 collecting the money
01:36:21.120 whatever
01:36:21.360 she works herself too 0.98
01:36:22.480 usually 1.00
01:36:22.900 the bottom bitch 1.00
01:36:23.880 but that took like 1.00
01:36:26.160 three years
01:36:26.820 because we were like
01:36:27.700 in Maine
01:36:28.280 New York
01:36:29.620 these girls went 1.00
01:36:30.460 to New Jersey
01:36:31.000 they went to Vegas
01:36:31.980 California
01:36:32.560 they would drive
01:36:34.140 they would drive
01:36:34.720 to Vegas
01:36:35.180 and work
01:36:35.740 and then drive back
01:36:36.820 but he had all these
01:36:37.680 women working for him 0.76
01:36:38.260 and he was very
01:36:38.960 very violent
01:36:39.640 like he would beat 1.00
01:36:40.320 the shit out of the girls 1.00
01:36:41.120 he would pee on them 1.00
01:36:42.200 stole their shoes
01:36:43.580 their licenses
01:36:44.380 their cell phones
01:36:45.440 so they couldn't call home
01:36:46.620 like I said
01:36:47.320 some of these girls 1.00
01:36:47.980 came from like
01:36:48.820 messed up places
01:36:49.600 and it took like
01:36:50.860 three years
01:36:51.280 to get enough people to
01:36:52.400 because every time
01:36:52.920 we found somebody
01:36:53.720 we found somebody else
01:36:55.300 so that took a long time
01:36:58.280 but that was
01:36:58.980 that was
01:36:59.960 he was
01:37:00.320 I think he got like
01:37:01.260 33 years in jail
01:37:02.560 because that went federal
01:37:03.280 because of all the
01:37:03.980 different states
01:37:04.720 that was a biggie
01:37:06.120 well thank you for that
01:37:07.920 thank you for that work
01:37:09.240 I liked going back
01:37:11.440 to the district
01:37:12.000 I mean I liked it
01:37:12.780 at the time
01:37:13.200 the schedule worked
01:37:13.860 but the district
01:37:14.560 is great people
01:37:15.600 like the patrolman
01:37:16.440 because when you
01:37:17.020 were in the human trafficking
01:37:17.640 there's no patrolman
01:37:18.440 it's just detectives
01:37:19.220 so it's like
01:37:19.720 four or five detectives
01:37:20.900 and a supervisor
01:37:21.540 when you go back
01:37:22.820 to the district
01:37:23.300 there's you know
01:37:23.840 100 200 people there
01:37:25.080 so it's a lot more fun
01:37:26.060 yeah you're part of life
01:37:26.920 we laugh all day
01:37:27.860 and stuff like that
01:37:28.980 so I was happy
01:37:29.820 I realized that kind of stuff
01:37:31.280 I go hang out
01:37:32.140 with the football team
01:37:32.740 around here sometimes
01:37:33.420 and it's just like
01:37:35.200 some of the best parts
01:37:35.880 of my week
01:37:36.220 because there's just
01:37:37.440 people around
01:37:38.020 yeah
01:37:38.260 it's like otherwise
01:37:38.960 my life is very much
01:37:40.100 like kind of by myself
01:37:40.960 not by myself
01:37:41.800 but it's a limited amount
01:37:43.320 you know
01:37:43.600 yeah
01:37:43.860 it got
01:37:44.560 it got
01:37:45.160 it got old
01:37:46.960 and again
01:37:47.560 all the cases
01:37:48.080 most of them go nowhere
01:37:48.960 so that's frustrating
01:37:49.980 and I just wanted to go
01:37:50.980 you know
01:37:52.180 back to the district
01:37:53.780 and it's great people
01:37:55.060 they're the best people
01:37:55.820 on earth
01:37:56.260 and you just had to laugh
01:37:57.120 all day
01:37:57.580 you know
01:37:58.180 like when it's real shitty
01:37:59.320 like the one with the guy
01:38:00.200 you know
01:38:00.480 two women stabbed 0.95
01:38:01.280 and the dog was stabbed
01:38:02.240 in the stomach
01:38:02.780 or whatever
01:38:03.160 like those are
01:38:03.800 like we work with
01:38:04.720 really good people
01:38:05.560 you're all there together
01:38:06.520 yeah
01:38:06.880 yeah
01:38:07.140 and you
01:38:08.260 and you won
01:38:09.300 detective of the year
01:38:09.940 for that right
01:38:10.500 yeah
01:38:11.060 for the federal
01:38:11.600 for the three year
01:38:12.620 yeah
01:38:12.960 let's go
01:38:14.100 Kara congratulations
01:38:15.000 it's funny
01:38:15.980 you know
01:38:16.180 Mark Wahlberg
01:38:16.900 was at the ceremony
01:38:18.060 for the Boston Police Foundation
01:38:19.260 gave me the award
01:38:20.040 the detectives union did too
01:38:21.340 but the Boston Police Foundation
01:38:22.640 did it
01:38:23.080 it's like a non-profit
01:38:23.880 and at the time
01:38:25.540 they were promoting
01:38:26.680 the movie Patriots Day
01:38:28.040 and Peter Berg
01:38:29.300 the director
01:38:29.820 and Mark Wahlberg
01:38:30.560 were there
01:38:31.080 for the award ceremony
01:38:32.700 gave me a picture with them
01:38:33.820 or whatever
01:38:34.160 you did
01:38:34.540 yeah
01:38:34.960 that's cool
01:38:35.980 I'm gonna have to
01:38:36.480 I will
01:38:37.360 yeah
01:38:37.680 they were promoting that
01:38:39.140 I'll text Mark
01:38:39.820 and send him our picture
01:38:40.560 I don't know
01:38:41.080 if he probably
01:38:41.520 doesn't even know who I am
01:38:42.620 but I think I accidentally
01:38:43.820 snuck his number off
01:38:44.660 of a sheet once
01:38:45.340 oh Mark Wahlberg
01:38:46.680 yeah
01:38:46.940 yeah
01:38:47.580 because he's from Dorchester
01:38:48.500 where I was a detective
01:38:49.940 oh really
01:38:50.040 yes
01:38:50.460 oh
01:38:50.740 then I'll make sure
01:38:51.560 that's where he and his brothers
01:38:52.580 the family's from
01:38:53.340 not even in a bracket
01:38:54.520 we ought to be like
01:38:55.060 hey this is awesome
01:38:56.000 I just wanted to let you know
01:38:58.820 I met one of Dorchester's finest
01:39:00.240 today right here
01:39:01.100 but congratulations
01:39:02.340 that's so cool
01:39:02.960 did that make you feel
01:39:03.920 a sense of accomplishment
01:39:04.820 yeah
01:39:05.180 I mean I worked hard
01:39:06.100 again it was with
01:39:06.960 Homeland Security
01:39:07.580 and a Homeland Security agent
01:39:08.840 she did a shit ton of work 1.00
01:39:10.240 more than me
01:39:10.820 she was great
01:39:11.760 we worked together on it
01:39:12.960 and like I said
01:39:13.420 it was a long
01:39:14.020 it was a long investigation
01:39:15.480 so I was very happy
01:39:16.480 to be
01:39:16.860 have it resolved
01:39:18.360 you know
01:39:18.800 yeah
01:39:19.180 in the process of it
01:39:20.500 someone the pimp
01:39:21.320 who was in charge
01:39:21.960 who thought
01:39:22.460 the first two pimps
01:39:23.580 that got caught
01:39:24.160 with a girl in Rhode Island
01:39:25.420 that I found
01:39:26.860 through a nickname
01:39:27.420 or whatever
01:39:27.800 they thought one of them
01:39:29.080 was ratting to the feds
01:39:30.240 so he had someone 0.98
01:39:32.200 shoot one of them 1.00
01:39:33.000 in the head 1.00
01:39:33.560 no
01:39:33.920 he lived
01:39:34.600 but not good
01:39:35.940 it was like a piece of pie
01:39:37.080 was missing from his head
01:39:38.160 oh
01:39:38.680 and he just
01:39:39.400 he could sing
01:39:40.060 but he couldn't talk
01:39:40.860 he could no longer speak
01:39:42.560 that's when I found out
01:39:43.380 they said in the brain
01:39:44.220 like oh
01:39:44.580 it's different parts of the brain
01:39:45.800 he could like sing
01:39:46.540 the alphabet
01:39:47.560 and happy birthday
01:39:48.460 but he couldn't speak
01:39:49.240 and he was not ratting
01:39:50.980 to the feds
01:39:51.740 he was nobody
01:39:52.220 he was like away in New Jersey
01:39:53.280 with some girl
01:39:53.900 not at that point
01:39:54.600 you're like who did
01:39:55.280 and he's like
01:39:55.840 D-E-F-G 1.00
01:39:57.000 yeah I got
01:39:57.460 I was in court
01:39:58.440 on something else
01:39:59.240 and one of the D-A's
01:40:00.040 L-M-N-O-P 1.00
01:40:00.720 did you hear this guy
01:40:02.280 got shot
01:40:02.800 and I was like
01:40:03.160 what's his name
01:40:03.760 I was like 0.99
01:40:04.140 oh shit 1.00
01:40:05.120 that's 0.99
01:40:05.440 we're looking for him
01:40:06.080 we have an arrest warrant
01:40:06.780 for him
01:40:07.200 but that guy
01:40:08.160 had him shot
01:40:08.880 man to get caught up
01:40:11.840 in such depths
01:40:12.740 of darkness
01:40:13.280 yeah
01:40:13.660 yeah so that was
01:40:15.600 I was glad to be done
01:40:16.480 with that one
01:40:17.220 is most of your social life
01:40:19.240 with police officers
01:40:20.640 and cops and stuff
01:40:21.420 it is
01:40:21.860 it was
01:40:22.340 until I moved
01:40:23.280 moved where
01:40:24.440 I moved out of Boston
01:40:25.360 I moved to South Carolina
01:40:26.540 you did
01:40:27.380 yes
01:40:27.860 no way
01:40:28.480 what part do you live in
01:40:29.220 yeah I live just
01:40:29.780 outside Charleston
01:40:30.500 dude I used to go
01:40:31.960 to College of Charleston
01:40:32.580 for one semester
01:40:33.340 nice
01:40:33.900 yeah I used to live
01:40:34.820 over on King Street
01:40:35.480 above a buddy's apartment
01:40:36.440 for a while 1.00
01:40:36.780 King Street's the shit 1.00
01:40:37.360 it was pretty neat 0.99
01:40:38.560 it was a little bit different
01:40:39.540 but it was fun
01:40:40.480 and it's beautiful over there
01:40:43.260 it's gorgeous
01:40:43.640 are you enjoying it
01:40:44.020 and I don't want to be cold
01:40:44.900 so and I'm not a Florida person
01:40:46.400 and your daughter lives over there
01:40:47.380 yeah
01:40:47.680 you guys got Folly Beach
01:40:48.980 that's right there
01:40:49.680 yeah IOP
01:40:51.460 Isle of Palms
01:40:52.640 Sullivan's Island
01:40:53.260 yeah but they
01:40:53.760 she lives
01:40:54.580 we live north of
01:40:55.680 just north of Charleston
01:40:56.720 so yeah
01:40:58.140 we moved there
01:40:58.660 so right before I moved
01:40:59.860 I forget where we're going with this
01:41:02.960 what was I saying
01:41:04.100 is most of your social life
01:41:05.120 oh yeah yeah yeah
01:41:05.840 until I moved
01:41:06.960 yes
01:41:07.360 and it's weird
01:41:08.900 everyone's like
01:41:09.240 oh you gotta have friends
01:41:10.100 that aren't cops
01:41:10.760 so I have friends
01:41:11.600 that I'm still friends with
01:41:12.700 in high school
01:41:13.200 that I've been friends with
01:41:14.120 for 40 years
01:41:14.780 so I have a core group of girls
01:41:16.400 a few girls
01:41:17.100 that I've known since high school
01:41:18.540 but it's weird
01:41:19.860 when you become a cop
01:41:20.780 like it's hard
01:41:21.640 to talk to regular people
01:41:23.340 only because
01:41:24.780 I always said
01:41:25.700 I felt like a party trick
01:41:27.040 if you're out in a large group
01:41:28.700 and someone's like
01:41:29.240 oh they're a cop
01:41:29.860 you got any stories
01:41:30.700 did you ever shoot anybody
01:41:31.820 shoot him 0.99
01:41:32.380 no I didn't fucking shoot anybody 1.00
01:41:33.460 and if I did 0.98
01:41:33.980 it was a bad day
01:41:34.960 so maybe I don't want
01:41:36.140 to talk about it
01:41:36.840 so I think that's why
01:41:37.940 we all just end up
01:41:38.680 hanging together
01:41:39.360 because we get it
01:41:40.200 whether it's you know
01:41:41.260 cops or nurses 0.98
01:41:42.680 or whatever
01:41:43.300 yeah
01:41:45.060 they get it
01:41:45.740 because you don't want
01:41:47.000 to feel
01:41:47.300 you don't want to be
01:41:48.200 performing all the time
01:41:49.240 like I don't want
01:41:49.740 to talk about it 0.99
01:41:50.440 it sucks 0.98
01:41:50.900 yeah you wear a cuff 0.95
01:41:51.840 some of it's funny 0.89
01:41:52.420 just handcuff sex jokes 0.83
01:41:53.940 you know like 1.00
01:41:54.520 dick on the sidewalk 1.00
01:41:55.280 sounds funny
01:41:55.980 but that was a sock morning
01:41:57.160 you know what I mean
01:41:57.820 more for that kid than me
01:41:59.100 but in baby in a trash can 1.00
01:42:00.960 and all this other shit 1.00
01:42:01.900 it's hard 0.99
01:42:02.340 yeah first of all
01:42:02.880 a lot of these sound like
01:42:03.760 like um
01:42:05.220 a lot of these sound like
01:42:06.000 baby shower party games too
01:42:07.480 I know
01:42:07.720 I do want to say that
01:42:08.180 and that's not what
01:42:09.360 we're doing here today guys
01:42:10.340 it's just kind of
01:42:11.100 some of the way things sound
01:42:12.340 yes
01:42:12.820 so that's what
01:42:13.420 those are my
01:42:13.860 what I call my chapter
01:42:15.060 my titles of my chapters
01:42:16.980 of the alleged book
01:42:17.800 I'm going to write
01:42:18.300 I love it
01:42:18.840 that's why I shortened it like that
01:42:20.400 but like you don't want to feel like
01:42:21.540 you're on all the time
01:42:22.820 so that's why we hang together
01:42:24.060 because we all get it
01:42:24.940 and we have a weird sense of humor
01:42:26.240 we're different people
01:42:27.220 like when we have Christmas
01:42:28.740 I run the
01:42:29.320 I used to run the Christmas parties
01:42:30.640 for our district
01:42:31.180 and they'd be like
01:42:32.420 oh we can section off
01:42:33.320 a part of the bar
01:42:34.000 we're like
01:42:34.300 no no no no
01:42:34.900 we have to be in our own space
01:42:36.380 like we are not
01:42:37.660 FIFO public society
01:42:38.740 I used to say 1.00
01:42:39.320 because we say shit 0.99
01:42:40.020 that is not funny 0.99
01:42:40.860 and it's funny to us
01:42:42.340 but if like
01:42:43.300 random normal people
01:42:45.020 who just go about their business 1.00
01:42:46.280 heard some of the shit 1.00
01:42:47.180 that we'd say 1.00
01:42:47.580 they'd be horrified
01:42:48.320 oh I've had
01:42:49.360 very recent experience
01:42:50.300 with some of that
01:42:50.900 and I feel you 100%
01:42:52.040 wow
01:42:54.640 was it hard to move away then
01:42:57.040 no I was ready
01:42:58.380 you were
01:42:58.760 yeah I was done
01:42:59.540 and I wanted to be warm
01:43:00.360 my daughter was already down here
01:43:01.560 oh your daughter lives in Charleston
01:43:02.760 yeah
01:43:03.180 oh that's great
01:43:03.960 so I wanted to come down
01:43:05.360 is that your only child
01:43:06.180 yeah
01:43:06.540 oh she's beautiful
01:43:07.360 thank you
01:43:08.260 and are you still married or no
01:43:10.360 no of course
01:43:11.100 years yeah
01:43:11.960 and was that hard
01:43:12.880 is it hard to keep
01:43:13.740 are a lot of officers married
01:43:15.480 and is there a lot of dating
01:43:16.840 on the force
01:43:17.520 what's that kind of life
01:43:18.900 like for
01:43:19.480 yeah it's a little
01:43:19.940 it seems very tough
01:43:21.400 we spend a lot of time together
01:43:23.120 so there's always
01:43:24.000 a lot of relationships
01:43:24.920 form in the police department
01:43:26.900 like cops end up
01:43:27.640 married to each other
01:43:28.520 I'm divorced
01:43:31.500 I've been divorced for years
01:43:32.540 it's funny
01:43:33.280 my ex-husband
01:43:33.940 and his new wife
01:43:34.700 he's remarried
01:43:35.280 a wife
01:43:35.480 they moved down here too
01:43:36.460 oh nice
01:43:37.260 yeah so we all get along
01:43:38.400 so they could be near my daughter
01:43:40.340 and they have a child as well
01:43:42.000 so she has
01:43:42.540 she has a brother with him
01:43:43.700 but it's hard
01:43:45.460 it seems easier now
01:43:47.580 for some reason
01:43:48.120 cops now
01:43:49.460 in my experience
01:43:50.460 that I've seen
01:43:51.180 are more family oriented
01:43:52.500 than they were
01:43:53.060 when I was young
01:43:53.840 there was a lot more drinking
01:43:55.020 going on then
01:43:55.800 like guys would stay late
01:43:57.060 in the parking lot
01:43:57.940 and like no one would go home
01:43:59.140 and now everyone's all
01:44:00.560 about their family
01:44:01.260 so I think it's morphed
01:44:02.700 whether it's who they're choosing
01:44:04.020 or who wants
01:44:04.720 no one wants the job
01:44:05.700 first of all by the way
01:44:06.620 when I took the police exam
01:44:08.180 like 10,000 people took it
01:44:09.940 and now they can't even get
01:44:11.360 like 800 people
01:44:12.400 to take the test
01:44:13.620 no one wants
01:44:14.180 I mean it's terrible
01:44:14.760 people hate us
01:44:15.420 well of course
01:44:15.600 when your district attorney
01:44:16.820 is not supporting you
01:44:17.600 when your government
01:44:18.140 isn't supporting you
01:44:19.040 and all over the country
01:44:19.560 like no
01:44:20.420 we're not the fire department
01:44:21.780 everyone
01:44:22.120 America's heroes
01:44:23.200 it's a joke
01:44:23.700 we laugh that
01:44:24.240 no one wants to see us coming
01:44:25.440 and it's just gotten worse
01:44:26.640 and worse over time
01:44:27.480 because we're not
01:44:28.140 politically supported
01:44:28.960 even nationally
01:44:29.760 weren't in the past
01:44:31.660 it's changed
01:44:32.400 so it's hard
01:44:34.520 to
01:44:35.100 maintain
01:44:36.760 relationships
01:44:38.020 like unless
01:44:38.980 because we're with each other
01:44:39.860 we all work 12, 14, 16 hours a day
01:44:41.620 I can't even imagine
01:44:42.580 and so that's how
01:44:43.480 a lot of them end up together
01:44:44.920 I think
01:44:46.060 and then again
01:44:46.560 because they understand it
01:44:47.700 it's hard for a non-police person
01:44:49.160 to understand
01:44:49.700 what's going through
01:44:50.280 our crazy heads 0.63
01:44:50.940 because we're all crazy 0.97
01:44:51.780 and we wouldn't take 0.91
01:44:52.940 we would have taken the job
01:44:54.420 I think 0.99
01:44:54.860 if it didn't make you crazy 0.78
01:44:56.240 I can't even imagine
01:44:58.620 you have to drive in a car
01:45:00.300 that has a siren on it
01:45:01.360 first of all
01:45:01.720 sometimes it's kind of aggravating
01:45:03.480 and then
01:45:04.260 when you get there 0.99
01:45:05.120 you might have to shoot somebody 1.00
01:45:06.360 or get shot 1.00
01:45:07.180 I'm out 0.93
01:45:08.220 yeah it's a lot
01:45:09.260 you know
01:45:09.780 it's a lot
01:45:10.280 so it's a lot
01:45:10.880 for a regular person
01:45:11.800 to live with someone
01:45:12.780 who's dealing with that
01:45:14.040 I think
01:45:14.540 yeah is it hard
01:45:15.400 to keep the work at work
01:45:16.320 for a lot of people
01:45:16.960 or is it not
01:45:17.560 is it
01:45:17.900 it's changed
01:45:18.740 I mean it varies by person
01:45:20.240 some people can shut it off 0.99
01:45:21.420 they don't give a shit 1.00
01:45:22.200 just go home and shut it off 0.99
01:45:23.400 and some people get really
01:45:24.560 you know 0.98
01:45:25.080 fucked up over it 0.99
01:45:25.980 and drink too much 0.99
01:45:26.840 or they're too
01:45:27.580 you know
01:45:28.160 mental like depression
01:45:29.700 or whatever
01:45:30.380 so
01:45:31.760 what did you think about
01:45:32.800 Trump utilizing the National Guard
01:45:34.220 to help out in some of these cities 0.98
01:45:35.300 I thought it was fucking great 0.90
01:45:36.080 I did too 0.92
01:45:36.620 I mean if the mayor's
01:45:37.500 aren't gonna fix it
01:45:38.320 you can't have that much chaos
01:45:40.120 in the streets
01:45:41.020 do something
01:45:41.880 I agree
01:45:42.480 and the fact that they're fighting it
01:45:43.640 like oh how dare you
01:45:44.600 clean up my city 1.00
01:45:45.460 are you insane 0.98
01:45:46.600 I would love if there's military 0.98
01:45:48.660 and I mean like
01:45:49.580 especially if it helps us
01:45:50.660 get to a point
01:45:51.260 where we don't need that
01:45:52.260 where there's a bit of
01:45:53.460 you know
01:45:54.120 where it solves
01:45:55.400 the problem
01:45:56.140 people want it
01:45:56.500 it's funny
01:45:56.920 when everyone was hating on us
01:45:58.280 a few years ago
01:45:58.980 bad after George Floyd
01:46:00.160 and stuff
01:46:00.620 everyone
01:46:01.040 hate us
01:46:01.880 videotaping you
01:46:02.560 everywhere you go
01:46:03.160 cameras
01:46:03.500 every radio call you're at
01:46:05.240 the phone's out
01:46:06.280 in your face 0.50
01:46:06.780 they're waiting for something
01:46:07.580 to happen
01:46:08.020 and they're cursing at you
01:46:09.140 spit on you
01:46:11.280 when they talk
01:46:12.140 and that's not
01:46:13.600 and you can't react to that
01:46:15.020 you can't be like
01:46:15.720 you know
01:46:16.100 you can't get into it
01:46:17.060 with people
01:46:17.500 and so we're 1.00
01:46:18.200 what pieces of shit 1.00
01:46:19.460 do that 1.00
01:46:20.400 everyone
01:46:21.060 that's who does it
01:46:22.220 everyone 1.00
01:46:22.660 every piece of shit 1.00
01:46:23.680 does it 1.00
01:46:24.220 but then you find out
01:46:25.260 like the normal people
01:46:26.120 in the neighborhoods
01:46:26.580 they want us there
01:46:27.660 they come out
01:46:28.260 they're like
01:46:28.600 thank you
01:46:29.160 thank you for coming
01:46:30.100 but that's
01:46:30.740 doesn't happen as often
01:46:32.360 as you'd like
01:46:32.980 and it is interesting
01:46:34.480 it is like
01:46:35.060 you know
01:46:35.580 I think it is a nice reminder
01:46:36.840 to find ways
01:46:37.540 to stop by our police
01:46:38.480 and fire departments
01:46:39.180 and be supportive
01:46:39.940 you know
01:46:40.380 one thing that's kind of fun
01:46:42.280 about fire departments
01:46:43.260 I'll say is
01:46:43.680 you can walk by
01:46:44.200 and see the guys
01:46:44.900 right there sometimes
01:46:45.760 right by the truck
01:46:46.380 you know what I'm saying
01:46:46.660 so you can go up
01:46:47.480 and say hey
01:46:48.080 you can go up
01:46:49.020 and like
01:46:49.380 yeah it's not like
01:46:50.240 walking into a police station
01:46:51.340 you're right
01:46:51.620 yeah there you're like
01:46:52.620 okay
01:46:52.880 well it has to be secure
01:46:54.280 because there's prisoners inside
01:46:55.620 and there's firearms
01:46:56.280 so it can't be as open
01:46:57.760 and welcoming
01:46:58.260 at a fire department
01:46:59.060 it's just a crock pot 0.95
01:46:59.960 full of freaking 0.98
01:47:00.620 ballpark franks 0.98
01:47:02.560 going on
01:47:03.020 so it's a different
01:47:03.800 now they'll guard those
01:47:04.760 with their life
01:47:05.300 some of those guys
01:47:05.860 it's a different atmosphere
01:47:06.580 yeah
01:47:07.060 and there's the one guy
01:47:09.380 that's like afraid
01:47:09.900 to slide down the pole
01:47:10.700 he's like
01:47:11.080 he just waits
01:47:12.300 so everybody else goes
01:47:13.060 and then he just
01:47:13.420 takes the stairs
01:47:14.000 real fast
01:47:14.520 but it's
01:47:15.120 none of that's any judgment
01:47:16.360 these guys are heroes
01:47:17.260 but that's one thing
01:47:18.240 that's nice
01:47:18.780 like we were in New York
01:47:19.620 the other day
01:47:19.960 and they were even
01:47:20.460 doing a call
01:47:21.060 and we like
01:47:21.540 took my buddy's son up
01:47:22.900 and he like
01:47:23.560 will wear his little
01:47:24.260 fire jacket around town
01:47:25.720 and he'll just like
01:47:26.960 go get into the fire truck 1.00
01:47:28.460 and shit 1.00
01:47:28.860 it's like 1.00
01:47:29.140 they come back
01:47:29.660 and we're just like
01:47:30.100 this kid's in their truck
01:47:31.520 but
01:47:31.740 oh kids love fire trucks
01:47:33.180 oh they love it
01:47:33.920 I mean that's
01:47:34.500 you know
01:47:34.760 and cruisers
01:47:35.440 they like the noise
01:47:36.300 the noise and the lights
01:47:37.400 it's exciting
01:47:38.220 they think it's cool
01:47:39.060 you know
01:47:39.560 oh look at this
01:47:43.280 here we go
01:47:43.760 Sean Diddy Combs
01:47:45.460 sentencing live updates
01:47:46.820 Combs gets 50 months
01:47:48.360 in prison
01:47:49.060 that's actually not that much
01:47:50.820 four years
01:47:51.460 for his conviction
01:47:52.940 on two prostitution
01:47:54.200 related offenses
01:47:54.980 what were the offenses
01:47:55.840 can you let me know
01:47:56.700 he must have been
01:47:57.820 sex trafficking 0.64
01:47:58.460 of a minor maybe
01:47:59.480 he got acquitted
01:48:01.340 of the most serious
01:48:01.920 charges he faced
01:48:02.400 racketeering
01:48:02.940 conspiracy
01:48:03.440 and sex trafficking
01:48:04.140 found him guilty
01:48:04.840 on two counts
01:48:05.320 of transportation
01:48:06.100 to engage in prostitution
01:48:07.360 you know
01:48:09.180 I personally thought
01:48:10.320 that this whole thing
01:48:11.440 was something
01:48:13.120 they were trying
01:48:13.560 to create
01:48:13.920 during the election
01:48:14.780 of kind of like
01:48:15.760 I don't know
01:48:16.560 how they were trying
01:48:17.240 to use it
01:48:17.820 but I thought
01:48:18.620 it was
01:48:18.820 they were trying 1.00
01:48:19.260 he did some crazy shit 1.00
01:48:20.500 oh for sure 1.00
01:48:21.480 I mean
01:48:22.500 but do you think
01:48:23.200 he was just a freak
01:48:24.080 that got really addicted
01:48:25.080 to what he was doing
01:48:25.900 and like a power hungry
01:48:27.360 from what I hear
01:48:28.040 he's a very power
01:48:29.620 controlling type of person
01:48:31.660 yeah I mean
01:48:31.840 I obviously don't know
01:48:32.920 the gist of
01:48:33.900 the cases
01:48:34.540 why they charge him
01:48:35.320 with conspiracy
01:48:35.940 and sex trafficking
01:48:36.980 with their minors involved
01:48:38.140 so I don't know why
01:48:39.240 yeah so we got what
01:48:40.060 just over four years
01:48:41.000 I don't know
01:48:42.640 what he
01:48:43.560 I mean
01:48:45.080 you can't get them 0.82
01:48:45.640 for sex parties
01:48:46.420 so there's obviously
01:48:47.120 something there
01:48:47.800 that's a good point
01:48:48.460 and who knows
01:48:50.440 what they kept back
01:48:51.420 who knows
01:48:51.860 what got like
01:48:52.700 behind closed doors
01:48:53.740 yeah stuff gets suppressed
01:48:54.560 yeah
01:48:54.880 victims don't want to testify
01:48:56.340 was he the one with the girl 0.98
01:48:57.320 he was kicking the shit out of 0.99
01:48:58.260 in the hallway 0.99
01:48:58.640 at the elevator
01:48:59.180 that was pretty bad to watch
01:49:00.640 yeah never mind
01:49:01.380 you know what 1.00
01:49:01.760 fuck that 1.00
01:49:02.360 give him fucking 10 more years 1.00
01:49:04.580 I am 1.00
01:49:06.200 I'm sorry
01:49:06.580 and you know what's messed up
01:49:08.600 I forgot about that
01:49:10.340 yeah
01:49:10.760 you know 1.00
01:49:11.620 there's so much evil shit 1.00
01:49:13.160 out there sometimes 1.00
01:49:13.720 well it's non-stop
01:49:14.780 every week there's something else
01:49:16.300 every day something else
01:49:17.360 comes out
01:49:17.840 so
01:49:18.120 but do you think
01:49:19.020 okay so going back to that
01:49:20.520 so that statement
01:49:21.140 and I agree with you
01:49:22.000 is a lot
01:49:22.440 but if we go back
01:49:23.560 to like
01:49:24.040 working the beats
01:49:25.240 on the indoor chest
01:49:26.460 when you were starting
01:49:27.240 like
01:49:28.120 there's a better way
01:49:30.300 to do it right
01:49:31.020 there's a better way
01:49:31.680 we can be
01:49:32.500 yeah people have to be
01:49:34.300 human beings
01:49:34.980 but there's a lot of people
01:49:36.320 that aren't 1.00
01:49:36.860 that's pieces of shit 1.00
01:49:37.840 for whatever reason 1.00
01:49:39.360 whether it's poverty
01:49:40.220 or their upbringing
01:49:41.060 or drugs 0.79
01:49:42.540 mess and fucks up families
01:49:44.200 to know it 0.65
01:49:44.740 and so
01:49:45.120 I don't know
01:49:46.740 I don't know what the answer is
01:49:47.880 it's not what we're doing
01:49:48.960 right
01:49:49.820 I wonder if it's what we are doing
01:49:52.760 or what is being done to us
01:49:54.220 that's having more of an effect on us
01:49:55.460 or
01:49:55.640 or probably some
01:49:56.820 some
01:49:57.640 well yeah
01:49:58.480 when we can't control it
01:49:59.440 people are gonna be 1.00
01:50:00.040 pieces of shit and bad 1.00
01:50:00.840 like that's not our fault 1.00
01:50:01.900 that's not your fault
01:50:02.740 we didn't do anything
01:50:03.620 we're just going about our business
01:50:04.860 having a job
01:50:05.580 getting up in the morning
01:50:06.320 going to work or whatever
01:50:07.260 yeah
01:50:07.660 the people that choose to 0.99
01:50:09.180 I'm just gonna fucking rob this person 0.99
01:50:10.720 some people are just bad people 0.99
01:50:12.160 yeah
01:50:12.540 some people end up that way
01:50:13.860 because of the way they're raised 0.99
01:50:14.640 and some people are just fucking bad 0.99
01:50:16.340 they really are 0.99
01:50:17.120 just the way they are
01:50:17.960 yeah and I think sometimes
01:50:19.120 we do get caught in this space
01:50:20.400 of like
01:50:20.700 oh we have to recuperate everybody
01:50:22.880 and we gotta save everybody
01:50:24.300 right
01:50:24.780 there's real victims out there
01:50:26.340 right
01:50:26.680 and it's not them
01:50:27.400 it's not those guys
01:50:28.420 that's a good point 0.95
01:50:29.160 oh when it came to the prostitute 1.00
01:50:30.820 the 0.99
01:50:31.160 the pimps
01:50:32.680 and everything like that
01:50:33.180 is there a certain like ethnicity
01:50:34.860 like is it Asian 0.98
01:50:35.900 is it black
01:50:36.620 is it white
01:50:37.340 is it 0.95
01:50:37.760 the pimps
01:50:38.560 do you hear like a certain
01:50:39.640 is that a
01:50:40.020 is that whole universe
01:50:41.060 of a certain world
01:50:42.240 like where a lot of these
01:50:42.900 because you always hear like 0.94
01:50:43.600 Asian prostitution 0.90
01:50:44.740 like was it a certain 0.63
01:50:46.000 or is it anybody
01:50:46.640 so the spas
01:50:47.640 were Asian
01:50:48.780 their pimps were Asian
01:50:49.940 but the ones
01:50:50.980 in my experience
01:50:52.100 in all of my cases
01:50:53.340 whether they were male
01:50:55.120 or female pimps 1.00
01:50:55.960 because we had a couple females 1.00
01:50:56.880 they were
01:50:57.420 they were black
01:50:58.560 they're African American
01:50:59.360 really
01:51:00.220 yeah 0.57
01:51:00.800 like female pimps too 1.00
01:51:01.980 they worked
01:51:02.660 yes
01:51:03.020 they ended up 1.00
01:51:03.720 like the bottom bitch 1.00
01:51:04.620 they'd end up kind of 1.00
01:51:05.640 working on their own
01:51:06.580 the most common
01:51:07.720 ethnicities of pimps
01:51:08.580 in the United States
01:51:09.100 according to available
01:51:09.960 arrest data and research
01:51:10.940 are predominantly black
01:51:11.800 African American
01:51:12.580 making up about
01:51:13.720 two-thirds of identified
01:51:14.640 or arrested pimps
01:51:15.600 wow
01:51:15.780 followed by a smaller
01:51:16.460 proportion of Latino
01:51:17.300 white
01:51:17.700 multi-racial
01:51:18.900 mixed people
01:51:19.440 they'll do
01:51:19.820 they'll pretty much
01:51:20.600 do anything
01:51:21.080 and Asian individuals
01:51:22.760 yeah
01:51:23.220 the spas were
01:51:23.960 the people running
01:51:25.600 those were Asian
01:51:26.260 that's kind of crazy
01:51:27.640 I wonder
01:51:27.980 well maybe it has a lot
01:51:28.880 to do with that music
01:51:29.660 that's in that culture too
01:51:30.860 just the way that
01:51:31.580 some of that music
01:51:32.280 is so vulgar 1.00
01:51:33.320 and like bitch 1.00
01:51:34.620 pimp 1.00
01:51:35.100 and that
01:51:35.560 you know
01:51:36.100 yeah stuff's glorified
01:51:37.240 yeah
01:51:37.840 that's a good point
01:51:38.540 I think that
01:51:39.460 that culture
01:51:40.000 has the most glorification
01:51:40.760 of the music
01:51:41.480 of the performers
01:51:42.520 now a lot of the
01:51:44.040 a lot of the producers
01:51:45.940 and agents
01:51:46.420 of that group
01:51:46.880 are white
01:51:47.320 so certainly
01:51:49.400 just as much
01:51:50.400 yeah they're involved
01:51:51.140 too
01:51:51.300 responsibility yeah
01:51:52.100 thank you so much
01:51:53.540 for hanging out
01:51:54.600 I want to know
01:51:55.060 what do you like to do now
01:51:56.080 so are you retired now
01:51:57.400 I just retired
01:51:58.240 three months ago
01:51:58.940 congratulations
01:51:59.620 thank you so much
01:52:00.940 very happy
01:52:02.000 you're supposed to put in
01:52:03.080 32 years
01:52:03.800 to get your full pension
01:52:04.680 but I gave up
01:52:05.340 after 31
01:52:05.980 what
01:52:06.660 yeah 32 years
01:52:08.040 but you get your
01:52:08.480 you still get a pension
01:52:09.680 no I get my pension
01:52:10.720 it's just not
01:52:11.160 the most you're gonna get
01:52:11.960 is 80% of your salary
01:52:13.340 okay
01:52:13.640 after 32 years
01:52:14.840 and I stayed till 31 years
01:52:17.260 and I get like 77%
01:52:18.740 or something
01:52:19.320 that's fair
01:52:19.780 yeah I'm down south
01:52:21.400 now I go to the beach
01:52:22.220 I paint
01:52:23.040 I do oil painting
01:52:23.900 in my
01:52:24.320 as a hobby
01:52:26.380 you do
01:52:26.880 yeah
01:52:27.420 would you do us
01:52:28.500 a little bitty painting
01:52:29.340 and we could put it in here 0.99
01:52:30.120 no I'm fucking terrible 0.97
01:52:31.120 I'm just learning 0.98
01:52:31.900 I copy artists
01:52:33.440 that I like
01:52:34.080 that's how I'm learning
01:52:34.760 it's like mixed colors
01:52:35.540 and stuff like that
01:52:36.180 so I copy artists
01:52:37.580 paintings that I appreciate
01:52:38.840 and I try to recreate them
01:52:40.100 just in the learning process
01:52:41.200 I'm terrible
01:52:41.760 I'm brand new
01:52:42.340 if you ever do want to do something
01:52:43.780 even smaller
01:52:44.340 it could even be years from now
01:52:45.440 you want to
01:52:45.900 I'll send you a little painting
01:52:47.000 yeah
01:52:47.300 my niece is an actual painter
01:52:48.900 and I told her I was coming
01:52:50.280 she's like
01:52:50.700 bring Theo a painting
01:52:52.100 oh that's cool
01:52:53.500 that's sweet
01:52:54.100 well I'm glad that I asked
01:52:55.020 that would be really nice to have
01:52:55.820 because then I can tell people
01:52:56.580 who it's from
01:52:57.160 and thank you so much
01:53:00.300 for your service
01:53:01.160 thank you so much
01:53:02.140 thank you for having me
01:53:02.900 thank you for having
01:53:03.520 normal people on
01:53:04.280 and not just
01:53:04.840 you know like
01:53:05.420 it's nice to have somebody 0.99
01:53:06.740 who gives a shit 0.99
01:53:07.920 what we're doing 0.98
01:53:08.860 instead of
01:53:09.940 you know
01:53:10.580 yeah well I think
01:53:11.320 I'm learning more
01:53:12.100 that that's just so much
01:53:12.960 more important to me
01:53:13.960 sometimes I think
01:53:15.000 I don't know
01:53:15.540 this whole thing
01:53:16.600 has been interesting
01:53:17.360 like just talking to people
01:53:19.000 and stuff like that
01:53:19.820 because I'm not really
01:53:20.700 the best interviewer
01:53:21.360 but I do
01:53:21.840 I am curious about people
01:53:23.240 well that's what makes
01:53:24.080 a good interview
01:53:24.640 you ask people questions
01:53:25.880 you know you're a great interviewer
01:53:27.260 come on
01:53:27.900 wow that's sweet of you
01:53:29.100 thank you
01:53:30.000 you're welcome
01:53:30.380 I love the Amish kid interview
01:53:31.600 that was great
01:53:32.100 oh he was good
01:53:32.880 he was great
01:53:33.540 he was so funny
01:53:34.860 he was very well speaking
01:53:35.340 he was just very direct
01:53:36.500 he seemed so natural at it
01:53:37.780 he really did
01:53:38.540 I know
01:53:39.140 I see your hat there
01:53:40.860 I like you
01:53:41.340 oh yeah
01:53:41.620 that's he gave that
01:53:42.500 it's really him
01:53:43.480 and Louis C.K. just gave me
01:53:45.160 his new book
01:53:45.940 I give it to your daughter
01:53:47.000 but it's kind of for boys
01:53:47.900 it's a boy book
01:53:49.180 is it a novel
01:53:49.900 it is
01:53:50.820 and he did a really great job
01:53:51.940 writing
01:53:52.180 alright
01:53:52.720 he's funny 0.99
01:53:54.080 he's funny shit 0.81
01:53:55.160 I know he had trouble 0.97
01:53:55.940 in the past 0.99
01:53:56.500 but he's a funny bastard 0.99
01:53:57.600 yeah he is 0.99
01:53:58.460 and I'm so glad
01:53:59.860 he had trouble in the past
01:54:00.540 because that's how
01:54:00.960 he and I got to know each other
01:54:01.860 because we've all had trouble
01:54:02.840 and so it's good
01:54:04.940 that's great
01:54:05.660 yeah
01:54:06.100 and in the spirit of service
01:54:08.100 we got a picture of our
01:54:09.240 this is our
01:54:09.800 Jim Jeffries
01:54:10.760 he was a comedian
01:54:11.280 that was on
01:54:11.680 that's his nephew
01:54:12.480 oh nice
01:54:13.100 Lieutenant Max Nugent
01:54:15.000 yeah
01:54:15.640 who was
01:54:16.140 an officer in the Australian Army
01:54:18.420 and he passed away
01:54:19.520 in a helicopter crash
01:54:20.380 so he is our
01:54:21.380 he's our hero
01:54:23.040 so we're excited
01:54:24.020 to have him
01:54:24.620 nice to have him there
01:54:25.760 yeah
01:54:26.160 it's nice
01:54:27.020 yeah he's cool
01:54:27.840 he seems like a neat guy
01:54:29.600 so I'm sure we'll get to know
01:54:31.080 channel some thoughts
01:54:33.020 and feelings
01:54:33.440 and energy from him
01:54:34.200 over the years
01:54:34.600 but anyway
01:54:35.420 thank you both for your service
01:54:36.420 congratulations on your move
01:54:38.480 thank you
01:54:39.020 and you look lovely
01:54:39.700 and I wish you a beautiful
01:54:40.820 second half of your life
01:54:42.280 as it evolves
01:54:42.940 thank you so much
01:54:43.720 and thank you for bringing
01:54:43.920 your daughter
01:54:44.360 and we got you guys
01:54:45.860 set up for dinner
01:54:46.340 night over at 1230 club
01:54:47.360 that'll be fun
01:54:47.920 that's lovely
01:54:48.360 thank you so much
01:54:49.080 yeah
01:54:49.300 I appreciate you
01:54:50.080 thank you so much
01:54:50.860 thank you
01:54:51.580 lovely to meet you
01:54:52.660 now I'm just floating
01:54:54.440 on the breeze
01:54:55.600 and I feel I'm falling
01:54:57.200 like these leaves
01:54:58.540 I must be
01:54:59.600 cornerstone
01:55:01.860 oh
01:55:04.480 but when I reach that ground
01:55:06.420 I'll share this peace of mind
01:55:08.580 I found
01:55:09.260 I can feel it
01:55:10.620 in my bones
01:55:12.740 but it's gonna tell you
01:55:15.420 I muchís
01:55:16.420 thank you so much
01:55:30.880 I'll give you a bit of time