This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #616 - Retired Boston Detective

00:00:00.000 It was even bad in America.

00:00:03.120 You know, I'm not home a lot.

00:00:05.400 You know, I can't keep a plant alive at the moment.

00:00:08.460 But when I am home, my bedroom is like my sanctuary.

00:00:12.440 You know, it's a sacred spot for sleep.

00:00:15.220 Thankfully, I have a Helix Sleep Mattress.

00:00:19.320 God, I like it.

00:00:20.660 I mean, I get on that thing and, ooh, baby girl,

00:00:24.060 before I know it, it's morning and I'm feeling good.

00:00:27.800 In fact, I like mine so much I got two of them.

00:00:30.520 I put one of them in the guest room over there

00:00:32.500 in case mom wants to come

00:00:34.020 and just launch some of her dirty dreams into that thing.

00:00:37.840 Because honestly, sleep matters more to me than ever.

00:00:41.320 Especially when I'm on the go.

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00:01:21.440 Before we begin, I'd like to say that

00:01:22.800 some of the conversation from today

00:01:24.540 is kind of graphic in nature.

00:01:27.440 We're talking about police work and detective work

00:01:29.640 and some of it's intense.

00:01:31.880 If those types of conversations are not for you,

00:01:35.300 then please make that choice for yourself.

00:01:38.100 Thank you.

00:01:39.860 Today's guest is a retired Boston police officer

00:01:43.060 and detective.

00:01:44.280 She had over 20 years on the force

00:01:46.720 before she joined the Human Trafficking Unit

00:01:49.380 and fought criminals in that world.

00:01:52.260 We learned a lot about what it's really like out there

00:01:54.660 and I want to thank her for her service.

00:01:58.080 Today's guest is Miss Cara Connelly.

00:02:00.940 Shine on me

00:02:04.640 And I will find a song

00:02:08.880 I've been singing

00:02:10.080 I'm gonna sing it

00:02:11.120 Yeah, my hair.

00:02:19.060 I've been losing some hair because of stress.

00:02:20.980 Yeah, it happens.

00:02:21.860 Sucks.

00:02:22.480 Yeah.

00:02:22.620 You just go in the sink and you got handfuls.

00:02:24.680 Yeah, you just wake up

00:02:25.820 and it looks like you look back

00:02:26.900 and you're like, oh, who was...

00:02:27.800 On your pillow?

00:02:28.160 Yeah.

00:02:28.480 Yeah.

00:02:28.880 It's gross.

00:02:29.400 Your pillow's got sideburns on it or something.

00:02:31.860 You know?

00:02:32.460 Your pillow's using a curling eye.

00:02:34.300 It's a mess, yeah.

00:02:35.580 Same.

00:02:35.880 That's way too much.

00:02:36.300 You've dealt with it?

00:02:37.120 Yeah.

00:02:37.660 In the past, yeah.

00:02:38.660 Yeah?

00:02:39.060 And was it stress from work?

00:02:41.120 Yeah, and other things

00:02:42.160 but the minoxidil definitely helps

00:02:43.860 because I called my doctor

00:02:44.920 and they're like,

00:02:45.260 oh, she can't see you for nine months

00:02:46.440 and I was like,

00:02:47.380 well, my fucking hair's falling out

00:02:49.040 and they're like,

00:02:49.380 well, you can see the nurse practitioner

00:02:50.520 in two months.

00:02:51.200 I was like, no.

00:02:52.160 So I went to one of those online things

00:02:53.600 and they sent me minoxidil

00:02:54.760 and like three months

00:02:55.900 I had little bald baby hairs

00:02:57.040 sprouting out and came back.

00:02:58.420 So it does help.

00:02:59.360 Yeah.

00:03:00.140 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:00.660 That's what I'm realizing.

00:03:01.520 I just gotta,

00:03:02.660 yeah, just taking some time

00:03:03.740 just to enjoy,

00:03:04.580 do things just that I enjoy.

00:03:06.060 That's what I'm,

00:03:06.680 that's like my focus right now

00:03:07.940 is just to do things that I enjoy.

00:03:10.800 Because I'll let added stress

00:03:12.440 stay on me as well, you know?

00:03:13.920 Yeah, of course.

00:03:14.680 That's what I'll do.

00:03:15.380 And it builds up.

00:03:15.680 Yeah, and not realizing

00:03:16.720 that everything's gonna be okay.

00:03:18.720 You know?

00:03:19.120 That's what my,

00:03:19.740 my boyfriend's here with us

00:03:20.840 and when I was nervous about today

00:03:22.240 and he's like,

00:03:22.800 it's all gonna be okay.

00:03:24.080 Yeah.

00:03:24.380 Yeah, it really is.

00:03:25.740 Like the platitudes.

00:03:27.140 Yeah, everything's gonna be okay.

00:03:29.320 Kara Connolly,

00:03:30.280 thank you so much for joining us.

00:03:31.320 You are a retired police officer

00:03:34.160 and detective from Boston.

00:03:36.160 That's correct.

00:03:36.920 And you were on the forces for 30?

00:03:40.540 31 years.

00:03:41.280 31 years.

00:03:41.980 Yeah.

00:03:42.380 And you started out in Dorchester, I think?

00:03:45.680 Yeah, when I graduated the police academy,

00:03:47.540 they send you to a couple different places

00:03:49.840 until you're on probation or whatever

00:03:51.680 and I went to a part of the city

00:03:52.820 called Dorchester.

00:03:53.780 Wait, probation?

00:03:54.880 They send?

00:03:55.180 So when you join the police department

00:03:56.960 and you go through the police academy

00:03:58.180 and then when you get out,

00:03:59.720 now they do it for a year

00:04:00.640 but when I did graduate it,

00:04:02.140 it was six months

00:04:02.920 and they have you,

00:04:05.300 you basically,

00:04:05.800 it's a probationary period

00:04:06.720 to see if you're,

00:04:07.940 you know,

00:04:08.500 good enough,

00:04:09.100 behave enough

00:04:09.680 or do the right thing

00:04:10.540 for like six months.

00:04:12.140 So they send you to a couple different places

00:04:13.580 like one busy district,

00:04:14.780 one quiet district.

00:04:15.900 So they start you

00:04:16.480 like a probationary period somewhere?

00:04:18.080 Yes.

00:04:19.160 And you might stay there

00:04:20.000 or they might move you

00:04:20.740 but that's how you're on probation

00:04:22.000 for six months

00:04:22.580 and then you're,

00:04:23.140 you know,

00:04:23.560 a full-time police officer after that.

00:04:25.300 Okay.

00:04:25.760 And what were those first years

00:04:27.080 on the force like?

00:04:28.860 Like in South Boston, was it?

00:04:30.880 Yeah.

00:04:31.240 So I was actually born in South Boston.

00:04:32.820 So I was in Dorchester

00:04:33.600 and then I was in South Boston.

00:04:34.860 South Boston at the time

00:04:35.660 was a quieter district.

00:04:36.740 Dorchester was very, very busy.

00:04:38.060 In the 90s was like,

00:04:39.380 in Boston was a ton of shootings

00:04:41.140 and gang stuff going on.

00:04:43.200 So comparatively speaking,

00:04:44.980 South Boston was a quieter place

00:04:46.540 to end up for several years.

00:04:48.400 And what were the demographics

00:04:49.560 of that area like

00:04:50.460 where you were servicing?

00:04:52.360 Kind of everywhere.

00:04:55.540 Dorchester's a different,

00:04:56.540 a different demographic

00:04:58.360 in South Boston population wise.

00:05:00.880 Now South Boston's very hip

00:05:02.020 and like it's all young kids.

00:05:03.440 But at the time I was there

00:05:04.400 it was like all just kind of families.

00:05:06.940 Pretty quiet place at the time

00:05:08.640 compared to other districts

00:05:09.480 were like, you know,

00:05:10.100 shooting every couple of days.

00:05:11.800 So.

00:05:11.960 And is it mostly white,

00:05:13.040 black, Latino, Asian?

00:05:15.200 Dorchester at the time

00:05:16.460 when I was first there

00:05:17.740 was a lot of black,

00:05:19.760 some white, some Asian.

00:05:21.840 And South Boston at the time

00:05:22.960 was mostly white,

00:05:24.300 but with some black and Latinos.

00:05:26.120 Got it.

00:05:26.920 And who are the people

00:05:28.060 they call Southies?

00:05:28.940 Because you hear that a lot.

00:05:30.300 Southies is not a thing.

00:05:32.120 You could say you're from Southie,

00:05:33.580 but it's not,

00:05:34.140 it's not,

00:05:35.480 it's not pluralized.

00:05:36.460 There's no S on the end of it.

00:05:37.800 But,

00:05:38.300 so I'm from Southie,

00:05:39.780 but I never said that growing up.

00:05:40.980 We always said South Boston.

00:05:41.900 But most people said I'm from Southie.

00:05:43.480 Okay.

00:05:44.240 It's just a nickname

00:05:45.060 for the part of town.

00:05:46.200 Right.

00:05:46.400 But so you're not like,

00:05:47.560 but do other people call you Southies

00:05:49.000 or the Southies?

00:05:50.100 No.

00:05:50.400 People from like out of the city

00:05:51.440 who hear about it

00:05:52.040 became popular

00:05:52.800 because it was in Goodwill Hunting,

00:05:54.180 it was in South Boston.

00:05:55.340 So that's kind of what put it on the map.

00:05:56.960 So when people started moving there

00:05:58.620 and didn't know any better,

00:05:59.600 that's how they would say it.

00:06:01.140 But people who grew up there

00:06:02.240 back in the 70s, 80s,

00:06:03.600 or whatever,

00:06:03.960 didn't say it like that.

00:06:05.300 That pub that they,

00:06:06.360 you know,

00:06:06.620 they filmed in

00:06:07.360 became like a big thing,

00:06:09.040 Elstree Tavern.

00:06:10.000 And that was like around the corner

00:06:11.740 from where I grew up.

00:06:13.200 And were the people there

00:06:14.000 distrustful of police at the time?

00:06:15.500 What was the relationship like between?

00:06:17.420 No.

00:06:17.760 People in Southie like the cops

00:06:19.500 compared to other parts of the city,

00:06:21.220 I think,

00:06:21.840 in my experience.

00:06:23.020 I mean,

00:06:23.220 it was a quiet place

00:06:24.020 when I worked there.

00:06:24.760 Most of the stuff that,

00:06:25.820 kind of good stuff that happened

00:06:27.380 or whatever,

00:06:28.180 crazier calls I've been on

00:06:29.380 happened when I was a detective.

00:06:31.120 Patrolman was pretty quiet.

00:06:32.680 Do you remember

00:06:33.280 one of your first like big,

00:06:34.560 like calls as a patrolman

00:06:35.860 that was like,

00:06:36.580 oh, this is real.

00:06:37.840 Like,

00:06:38.000 do you remember that,

00:06:38.680 like a first moment

00:06:39.600 where you're like,

00:06:39.980 this is pretty real?

00:06:40.860 Well, a lot of the calls,

00:06:41.920 it's funny,

00:06:42.320 a lot of the calls

00:06:43.000 when it comes in like,

00:06:44.420 you know,

00:06:44.640 person with the gun call,

00:06:45.840 like I still remember

00:06:46.400 my first person with the gun call,

00:06:47.880 I was shitting my pants

00:06:48.880 because I was like,

00:06:49.400 oh my God,

00:06:50.020 you know,

00:06:50.600 and it turned out to be bullshit.

00:06:51.900 It wasn't even real.

00:06:52.780 So,

00:06:53.340 a lot of the calls are like that.

00:06:54.540 You don't know they're fake

00:06:55.380 until you get there.

00:06:56.280 So,

00:06:56.520 you're like an adrenaline dump

00:06:57.800 in the car

00:06:58.320 and you're like,

00:06:58.700 oh my God,

00:06:59.060 this is real.

00:06:59.620 And I remember being like,

00:07:00.440 what am I going to do?

00:07:01.940 Nothing.

00:07:02.220 It was a big nothing burger.

00:07:03.340 Were you putting lipstick on

00:07:04.420 or what do you even do?

00:07:05.740 there was no lipstick

00:07:06.480 when I was a patrolman.

00:07:07.900 No.

00:07:08.320 Yeah,

00:07:08.520 like would you like powder up

00:07:09.460 your face a little bit

00:07:10.140 or something?

00:07:10.600 No,

00:07:11.360 no one powdered their face

00:07:12.440 on the way to a car.

00:07:13.320 That wasn't it.

00:07:14.100 No,

00:07:14.620 that wasn't a thing.

00:07:16.400 Yeah,

00:07:16.800 that's just in Charlie's Angels,

00:07:18.140 huh?

00:07:18.380 Yeah.

00:07:19.320 What was it like

00:07:19.980 being an officer

00:07:20.780 in the 90s

00:07:21.760 in that time period?

00:07:22.720 Like,

00:07:23.060 was that way different

00:07:23.920 than you think it is now?

00:07:25.280 Yes,

00:07:26.080 I think so.

00:07:26.740 I mean,

00:07:27.100 obviously,

00:07:27.680 the gang,

00:07:28.700 the rate of shootings

00:07:29.640 in Boston

00:07:30.140 was much higher than,

00:07:32.900 I forget what

00:07:33.560 the highest homicide rate

00:07:34.760 was in the early 90s.

00:07:35.900 It might have been like

00:07:36.560 150,

00:07:37.280 160 people.

00:07:38.560 Now Boston has like

00:07:39.520 35 a year.

00:07:41.020 So it was a big difference.

00:07:42.980 It's become much safer

00:07:44.420 whether everyone,

00:07:45.180 the gangs kind of aged out

00:07:46.540 and they all went to jail

00:07:47.560 or,

00:07:48.040 you know,

00:07:48.220 got shot

00:07:48.860 or moved on in life.

00:07:50.060 Whatever happened,

00:07:51.140 it became much safer,

00:07:53.260 I'd say.

00:07:53.660 Well,

00:07:53.780 there's no money

00:07:54.340 in being in a gang either.

00:07:55.520 I think a lot of people

00:07:56.120 are like,

00:07:56.420 oh,

00:07:56.540 this is a shitty business,

00:07:57.820 you know?

00:07:58.740 This says,

00:07:59.360 1990,

00:07:59.900 the homicide peak.

00:08:01.020 Boston's homicide count

00:08:02.060 hit an all-time high

00:08:02.880 of 152 cases

00:08:04.100 with much of the violence

00:08:05.460 concentrated among youth

00:08:06.600 and involving firearms.

00:08:10.120 The spike was driven

00:08:10.980 by gang violence,

00:08:11.820 crack cocaine epidemic

00:08:12.760 and easy access

00:08:13.920 to handguns.

00:08:15.020 Yeah,

00:08:15.360 so the 90s are a little

00:08:16.260 different than now

00:08:17.380 for sure.

00:08:18.520 Compared to then,

00:08:19.400 how do you feel like

00:08:20.040 police work is different

00:08:21.100 between now and then?

00:08:22.140 Do you have any thoughts

00:08:22.760 on that?

00:08:23.900 I don't know.

00:08:24.440 I mean,

00:08:24.660 the whole community policing

00:08:26.280 aspect started

00:08:27.660 when I was new,

00:08:28.820 so that's kind of

00:08:29.820 still progressed along.

00:08:31.040 What does that mean,

00:08:32.140 community policing?

00:08:33.680 Well,

00:08:33.940 that's what they call it.

00:08:35.020 At the time,

00:08:35.640 they had walking beats,

00:08:36.740 so when I got on,

00:08:38.280 you wouldn't be in a cruiser,

00:08:39.560 like you'd walk the neighborhood,

00:08:41.020 kind of like they do

00:08:41.580 in New York City.

00:08:42.860 They have people walking around,

00:08:43.820 there's not a lot of cruisers,

00:08:45.300 and so they would put people

00:08:47.020 in certain parts of the city.

00:08:48.260 Like when I got on,

00:08:49.020 for example,

00:08:49.640 and I worked in Dorchester,

00:08:50.720 I think there were like

00:08:51.360 seven or eight walking beats

00:08:52.460 up and down

00:08:52.960 like kind of the main street

00:08:54.180 in the town.

00:08:55.960 And now,

00:08:56.840 excuse me,

00:08:57.180 there's only a couple,

00:08:58.320 and they just put those on again,

00:08:59.740 so they're kind of trying

00:09:00.580 to get back to that.

00:09:03.060 So that was very different.

00:09:04.320 Like people who did

00:09:05.400 the walking beats full time

00:09:06.380 like knew everyone

00:09:07.000 in the neighborhood,

00:09:07.620 that was the whole purpose

00:09:08.460 is to get people

00:09:09.180 into the neighborhood

00:09:09.760 so people feel comfortable

00:09:10.760 speaking to the police.

00:09:11.980 Except the neighborhoods

00:09:12.700 where they put the walking beats

00:09:14.500 were usually the worst neighborhoods

00:09:15.500 and people didn't give a shit.

00:09:16.740 They didn't want to talk to us.

00:09:17.860 Oh, it didn't matter anyway.

00:09:18.900 No,

00:09:19.260 not the parts of the city

00:09:20.260 where they had them.

00:09:20.780 Now it's different.

00:09:22.700 They don't have as many

00:09:23.680 walking beats at all.

00:09:24.760 They push a lot

00:09:25.660 of the social media stuff

00:09:26.740 like the dancing cops

00:09:28.840 is the fucking worst.

00:09:29.820 It's so cringy.

00:09:31.120 And the department,

00:09:32.160 all the police departments

00:09:33.220 do that.

00:09:33.760 They put it out

00:09:34.320 to try to be like,

00:09:35.120 look,

00:09:35.420 we're excessive.

00:09:36.160 Oh, see,

00:09:36.600 it's so embarrassing.

00:09:38.380 Oh, I haven't even seen this.

00:09:40.000 It's just,

00:09:40.680 it's so goddamn cringy.

00:09:42.560 Are these real cops?

00:09:44.120 That's usually the,

00:09:45.380 I don't know about them.

00:09:47.080 Yeah,

00:09:47.260 it says they are.

00:09:49.020 Oh my God.

00:09:49.760 Well,

00:09:49.920 at least they can dance.

00:09:51.280 It's like when our department

00:09:52.800 puts it out,

00:09:53.440 it's like,

00:09:53.640 she's like,

00:09:53.880 right,

00:09:54.060 cop's like,

00:09:54.480 look,

00:09:54.640 we're playing basketball

00:09:55.460 with the kids

00:09:56.260 and you know,

00:09:57.060 let's all do,

00:09:58.120 especially during COVID.

00:09:59.180 It's just,

00:09:59.780 it's so cringy.

00:10:02.140 They just put it out

00:10:02.700 on the other day

00:10:03.320 from female women,

00:10:05.160 law enforcement day

00:10:06.340 and they had like women

00:10:07.300 dancing and some of my girlfriends

00:10:08.940 and I sent it back and forth.

00:10:10.140 Like this is so embarrassing.

00:10:10.980 Who wants to see,

00:10:11.640 dude,

00:10:11.820 the last thing I want

00:10:12.760 is my cop dancing over there.

00:10:14.540 Is that what you're looking for

00:10:15.440 when you call for help?

00:10:16.400 Someone to show up

00:10:17.000 and start dancing?

00:10:17.820 Like you want someone

00:10:18.620 who's gonna give you a hand.

00:10:21.380 It's just,

00:10:22.080 I know they're trying

00:10:22.680 to soften their image.

00:10:23.720 They don't want to look

00:10:24.220 like paramilitary anymore.

00:10:25.480 They want to look friendly

00:10:26.360 and not scary and whatever.

00:10:27.940 Whether it works

00:10:28.500 or not long-term,

00:10:29.240 I don't know.

00:10:29.880 Yeah.

00:10:30.500 You get promoted

00:10:31.100 to detective in 2005?

00:10:33.260 Seven, 2007.

00:10:34.060 2007, yeah.

00:10:34.600 Okay.

00:10:35.080 And what is,

00:10:35.860 what does it mean

00:10:37.100 to become a detective?

00:10:38.480 What does that mean exactly?

00:10:39.500 So to become a detective,

00:10:40.520 back then you had to take an exam.

00:10:42.040 So it's like a six month

00:10:43.160 to year long process.

00:10:44.520 You have to study

00:10:45.080 for several months

00:10:45.840 and there's like six

00:10:46.640 or seven textbooks

00:10:47.360 you have to read.

00:10:48.340 So you take the exam

00:10:49.220 and then they do kind of

00:10:50.020 like an oral interview

00:10:50.940 depending on how you score

00:10:52.380 on the test

00:10:52.920 and then they kind of combine

00:10:54.000 your years of training

00:10:55.480 and experience,

00:10:56.600 your test score

00:10:57.440 and your interview

00:10:58.420 to say,

00:10:59.040 okay,

00:10:59.180 these people have been

00:11:00.100 high enough score

00:11:00.740 to get made detective.

00:11:01.580 So, and then you do like

00:11:03.260 a month's worth of training

00:11:04.400 back at the police academy

00:11:05.560 to, because being a detective

00:11:08.000 versus a patrolman

00:11:09.300 is very, very different.

00:11:10.800 First of all,

00:11:11.320 you don't wear a uniform

00:11:11.960 which is my favorite part

00:11:13.100 but it's just

00:11:14.100 a completely different job.

00:11:15.280 Like you're now responsible.

00:11:16.540 Cop gets a call,

00:11:17.360 they go to the call,

00:11:18.160 they write a report

00:11:18.880 and that's the end of it

00:11:20.120 until they have to go to court.

00:11:22.060 If the report

00:11:23.020 that the cop writes about,

00:11:24.100 it gets assigned

00:11:24.760 to a detective

00:11:25.360 and now you own that.

00:11:26.860 Like, so you have

00:11:27.440 to follow through,

00:11:28.220 you have to follow up

00:11:29.100 and go to court

00:11:29.760 or take out criminal charges

00:11:31.060 or whatever.

00:11:32.160 So it's a very different job.

00:11:34.300 Is there a lot of lobbying

00:11:35.220 to become a detective?

00:11:36.440 Like whenever you're like

00:11:37.300 on the force

00:11:38.880 or people like,

00:11:39.580 I want to be detective

00:11:40.620 and then do people,

00:11:43.080 is there any way

00:11:43.680 to manipulate things

00:11:44.720 so it betters your chances

00:11:45.900 of becoming a detective

00:11:46.800 or is it not like that?

00:11:48.060 No, not like that.

00:11:48.840 So everyone,

00:11:49.600 if anyone's a patrolman

00:11:50.600 doesn't want to be

00:11:51.140 a patrolman for long.

00:11:52.180 I was a patrolman

00:11:52.720 for 13 years

00:11:53.400 which was a long time.

00:11:54.480 We had,

00:11:54.900 usually they do

00:11:55.500 the detectives exam

00:11:56.420 every two or three years.

00:11:57.860 For some reason

00:11:58.320 we had a seven year break

00:11:59.480 because I didn't take it.

00:12:00.400 I just had a child

00:12:01.260 and I was like,

00:12:02.200 I'll take the next one

00:12:03.080 in a couple years

00:12:03.660 and it was seven years.

00:12:04.980 So I was a patrolman

00:12:05.840 for a long time.

00:12:06.820 So people want-

00:12:07.920 It was seven years

00:12:08.300 to the next promotion?

00:12:09.080 Yeah,

00:12:09.460 to the next exam.

00:12:10.840 So it was a long wait.

00:12:12.720 But people want it

00:12:13.880 just because it's better

00:12:14.960 than being a patrolman.

00:12:16.000 Some people love

00:12:16.580 being a patrolman

00:12:17.280 and will do that

00:12:17.860 their entire life

00:12:18.720 but most people

00:12:19.520 either want to take an exam

00:12:20.700 and become a supervisor

00:12:21.680 like a sergeant,

00:12:22.940 a lieutenant

00:12:23.340 and keep kind of

00:12:23.900 going up the chain

00:12:24.620 or people are interested

00:12:26.240 in being a detective.

00:12:27.160 So it's definitely desirable.

00:12:30.320 Do you remember

00:12:30.960 an early case

00:12:31.640 as a detective

00:12:32.340 that really kind of

00:12:32.980 stood out to you?

00:12:34.280 Yeah,

00:12:34.700 I had a good arm robbery

00:12:35.600 once.

00:12:37.180 Hell yeah.

00:12:37.480 That sounds like

00:12:38.060 an oxymoron,

00:12:38.680 a good arm robbery.

00:12:39.360 That's great.

00:12:39.840 A little good arm robbery.

00:12:41.060 It was on Halloween

00:12:42.200 which is always

00:12:43.540 one of the worst days

00:12:44.320 of the year to work.

00:12:45.620 Fourth of July,

00:12:47.260 Halloween sucks.

00:12:48.340 They're always crazy.

00:12:49.700 But we had an arm robbery

00:12:50.520 of a cell phone store

00:12:52.060 in the morning.

00:12:52.720 It was in the morning.

00:12:53.500 It was like 930 in the morning.

00:12:54.700 The store just opened up

00:12:55.780 and these two dudes

00:12:57.080 went in

00:12:57.540 and there was some girl,

00:12:58.660 a young girl,

00:12:59.360 early 20s

00:13:00.080 working there by herself.

00:13:01.400 It was in a shitty

00:13:02.100 part of town

00:13:02.920 and they literally

00:13:04.500 tied her up

00:13:05.180 with like telephone cord

00:13:06.420 around her wrists

00:13:07.480 and her ankles

00:13:08.020 and they stole

00:13:08.880 it was like 800 bucks

00:13:10.260 or 785 dollars

00:13:11.700 whatever it was.

00:13:14.040 But the feds

00:13:14.960 ended up taking it

00:13:15.740 because it was T-Mobile

00:13:17.200 and they can kind of

00:13:18.680 loop in the

00:13:19.580 Commerce Act

00:13:21.680 like by saying

00:13:22.260 because commerce

00:13:23.200 was halted

00:13:23.880 with other states

00:13:24.760 it becomes like

00:13:25.460 a federal case.

00:13:26.660 But the guys ran off

00:13:27.920 and the girl,

00:13:28.600 it was like something

00:13:29.120 out of a movie.

00:13:29.860 It was all on video.

00:13:30.640 She literally

00:13:31.480 hopped over to the phone

00:13:33.280 all tied up

00:13:33.960 with her ankles

00:13:34.580 and they put a gun

00:13:35.340 to her head

00:13:35.640 and everything.

00:13:36.160 It was two firearms

00:13:36.880 and she was terrified

00:13:38.180 and they

00:13:39.040 she hopped over

00:13:40.460 to the phone

00:13:41.100 and like knocked it

00:13:41.940 off with her head

00:13:42.700 and was like

00:13:43.080 calling for help.

00:13:44.640 At least she's in

00:13:44.960 a phone store though

00:13:45.880 like at least like

00:13:46.580 but she was able

00:13:48.220 to do that

00:13:49.000 and then it came in quick

00:13:50.220 so a couple of the guys

00:13:51.440 from work

00:13:52.100 everyone

00:13:52.960 I worked with the best

00:13:54.720 people on earth

00:13:55.320 in Dorchester.

00:13:56.040 They really were

00:13:56.700 great great cops

00:13:57.880 and they just kind of

00:13:58.920 flood the area

00:13:59.600 right away

00:14:00.220 and the description

00:14:00.900 is going out

00:14:01.640 and one of the officers

00:14:02.780 is actually one of my

00:14:03.660 police academy classmates

00:14:04.560 ends up seeing

00:14:05.920 these two guys

00:14:06.620 walking down the street

00:14:07.700 and a description

00:14:09.140 had been given out

00:14:09.620 to clothing

00:14:09.980 they left like a trail

00:14:11.240 of clothing down the street

00:14:12.380 they tried to drop everything

00:14:13.600 and change their appearance.

00:14:15.520 It's hard to run

00:14:16.020 and change at the same time.

00:14:17.080 Yeah so they

00:14:17.340 they were just kind of

00:14:18.300 yeah walking down the street

00:14:19.480 and really nice

00:14:20.100 it's actually a little teeny

00:14:21.060 there's a nice neighborhood

00:14:22.020 in this bad section of town

00:14:23.680 so they kind of stuck out

00:14:25.380 and but then he sees

00:14:26.540 the trail of clothing

00:14:27.920 jackets and hats

00:14:29.280 and shit left behind

00:14:30.440 so he called it in.

00:14:31.900 These guys

00:14:32.320 one of them had on gloves

00:14:33.500 but the other one

00:14:34.060 had band-aids

00:14:34.840 and tape around his fingers

00:14:35.960 so he wouldn't leave

00:14:36.740 any fingerprints

00:14:37.660 and as the guys

00:14:38.820 everyone went up there

00:14:40.100 the patrolman

00:14:40.620 were talking to him

00:14:41.400 he notices them

00:14:42.540 only they're picking away

00:14:43.480 to try to get the

00:14:44.380 the band-aids

00:14:45.280 and tape off their hands

00:14:46.340 and then another officer

00:14:47.540 in the area was searching

00:14:48.400 she's looking in trash cans

00:14:49.640 and she found the guns

00:14:50.760 and then someone found

00:14:52.220 the box

00:14:52.600 the money box

00:14:53.280 so it was

00:14:53.840 that was it

00:14:55.280 that was a pretty good one.

00:14:56.480 That was an exciting one.

00:14:57.540 Yeah

00:14:57.760 it was just

00:14:58.320 it came together nicely

00:14:59.360 everyone worked

00:15:00.180 like did so well together

00:15:01.480 everyone was like

00:15:02.200 everyone was there

00:15:02.920 at the right time

00:15:03.640 to do the right thing

00:15:04.600 and then the feds took it

00:15:06.120 and they had

00:15:06.620 they had serious criminal records

00:15:07.920 both of them

00:15:08.300 one of them

00:15:08.700 been doing armed robberies

00:15:09.560 all over the city.

00:15:10.520 It was like the same guy

00:15:11.640 hit like five or six places

00:15:13.060 so we were glad to get him

00:15:15.300 they got

00:15:15.700 because it was federal

00:15:16.580 they got like 20 something years each

00:15:18.300 one of their brothers

00:15:19.400 was a truck driver

00:15:20.660 and he

00:15:21.920 that's how they got the guns

00:15:22.980 he was a cross-country truck driver

00:15:24.580 and he would

00:15:24.960 he bought guns in Arizona

00:15:26.200 and then brought them back here

00:15:27.880 so that's what made it federal

00:15:29.360 is that they were transporting guns

00:15:30.500 across state lines

00:15:31.200 I think

00:15:32.500 they didn't end up

00:15:33.540 prosecuting him

00:15:34.760 because he basically testified

00:15:36.340 against his brother

00:15:37.420 but what made it

00:15:38.520 such a big

00:15:39.300 what made the

00:15:39.980 sentencing so severe

00:15:41.320 because they were

00:15:42.100 the way the feds do it

00:15:44.080 in federal court

00:15:44.860 is

00:15:45.180 they basically

00:15:46.660 add up

00:15:47.500 it's a point system

00:15:48.640 and depending on how many

00:15:49.660 charges or cases

00:15:51.060 how many times

00:15:51.620 you've been found guilty

00:15:52.360 then you're considered

00:15:53.320 an armed career criminal

00:15:54.180 and you get extra time

00:15:56.020 added on

00:15:56.560 oh got it

00:15:57.120 but yeah

00:15:57.880 for 785 bucks

00:15:59.720 they went to jail

00:16:00.300 for like 20 something years each

00:16:01.600 it was crazy

00:16:02.240 it's idiots

00:16:03.760 yeah

00:16:04.440 pretty much

00:16:05.700 and that poor girl

00:16:06.780 was terrified

00:16:07.440 I always felt bad for her

00:16:08.680 yeah

00:16:09.100 oh that would be so scary dude

00:16:12.080 I don't know what I would do

00:16:13.200 if someone did something like that

00:16:14.380 like pulled

00:16:14.780 like you know

00:16:15.460 she didn't even want to identify them

00:16:16.720 we were trying to do like a

00:16:17.800 we do a bring back

00:16:18.780 or show up your bring

00:16:19.480 because we brought them to say

00:16:20.980 have her identify them

00:16:22.560 and she was like

00:16:23.380 hiding behind the blinds

00:16:24.780 in the store

00:16:25.180 we usually

00:16:25.680 they'll have them like

00:16:26.560 go out on the sidewalk

00:16:27.680 and the person will like

00:16:28.700 look through her car window

00:16:29.680 but she was literally hiding

00:16:30.860 she was absolutely terrified

00:16:31.920 the poor thing

00:16:32.420 she's crying and everything

00:16:33.500 how important are fingerprints

00:16:35.840 is that a real thing

00:16:36.720 how important is that

00:16:37.560 when you were a detective

00:16:38.320 well that's a real thing

00:16:39.820 because everyone's are different

00:16:40.840 yeah

00:16:41.200 so if you get found at a scene

00:16:43.240 whether it's a break-in

00:16:44.420 or a robbery

00:16:46.540 or something like that

00:16:47.640 and they find

00:16:48.460 your fingerprints

00:16:49.220 well

00:16:49.860 what other excuse

00:16:52.020 do you have for being there

00:16:53.000 so it's a pretty good

00:16:54.080 especially now people

00:16:55.220 like in court

00:16:55.940 when cases go to court

00:16:56.940 they don't want witness identification

00:16:58.280 they want

00:16:59.860 because all the CSI shows

00:17:01.620 they think we all have

00:17:02.560 this bags of evidence

00:17:03.720 to show

00:17:04.260 when it comes to court

00:17:05.400 so

00:17:05.740 juries want to see

00:17:07.800 forensics

00:17:08.460 they want fingerprints

00:17:09.320 they want like

00:17:10.080 cell phone records

00:17:10.800 they want DNA

00:17:11.720 left behind

00:17:12.400 because of the TV shows

00:17:13.440 makes it look like

00:17:14.140 that's left at every scene

00:17:15.480 but

00:17:15.760 these guys covered

00:17:16.960 their fingerprints

00:17:17.520 they had masks on

00:17:18.980 like they put

00:17:19.600 you know bandanas

00:17:20.300 around their face

00:17:21.140 but the girl identified them

00:17:23.040 from the clothes

00:17:24.340 one of them didn't have

00:17:25.040 a mask on

00:17:25.600 so fingerprints

00:17:26.180 are definitely

00:17:26.920 very important

00:17:27.680 and what's the process

00:17:28.740 of actually lifting fingerprints

00:17:29.940 what is that

00:17:30.320 and you hear the term

00:17:31.100 lifting fingerprints

00:17:31.900 so different surfaces

00:17:33.320 use different tools

00:17:35.480 like this surface

00:17:36.660 the grain of the wood

00:17:37.720 would be no good

00:17:38.280 you need like a smooth surface

00:17:39.600 like they train us

00:17:40.840 on like granite

00:17:41.700 like countertops

00:17:43.140 oh yeah granite's nice

00:17:44.080 it's very smooth

00:17:45.400 it's shiny

00:17:46.100 so if someone leaves

00:17:47.120 a fingerprint

00:17:47.600 you have

00:17:48.100 or whether you have

00:17:48.660 dry or oily hands

00:17:49.660 you're leaving oil behind

00:17:51.400 and you could take

00:17:52.220 your powder

00:17:53.020 and you spin the little powder

00:17:54.180 on like a smooth surface

00:17:55.300 and literally

00:17:55.980 the fingerprint pops

00:17:57.080 and then you just take

00:17:57.880 this kind of

00:17:58.540 clear square

00:18:00.120 of like sticky

00:18:00.840 tape

00:18:01.720 and then like

00:18:02.320 press it down

00:18:03.160 and then lift it up

00:18:03.960 so it transfers

00:18:04.640 onto

00:18:05.340 the outline transfers

00:18:06.560 onto

00:18:06.960 there you go

00:18:08.380 can there be

00:18:09.200 fingerprints in a place

00:18:09.960 like could you look

00:18:10.640 at a counter or something

00:18:11.360 and see nothing

00:18:12.160 and there could actually

00:18:12.900 be fingerprints there

00:18:13.660 yeah you can kind of

00:18:15.300 if you use a flashlight

00:18:16.140 sometimes you can see it

00:18:17.260 if it's a clean surface

00:18:18.400 if it's like a shithole house

00:18:19.920 or filled like

00:18:20.520 bank robberies

00:18:21.860 we don't do fingerprints

00:18:22.640 because so many people

00:18:23.720 go up to every teller

00:18:24.860 like even if a bank robber

00:18:26.220 comes in

00:18:26.620 and puts his hands down

00:18:27.780 there's 10,000 other

00:18:30.080 fingerprints there

00:18:30.700 from the people

00:18:31.200 that came before you

00:18:32.080 right

00:18:32.360 so they don't

00:18:33.540 we don't bother

00:18:34.120 with something like that

00:18:35.080 because you have to be able

00:18:36.080 to show it's a suspect

00:18:37.060 so they won't like

00:18:37.860 put it into the system

00:18:38.760 to see who it even belongs to

00:18:40.300 could a surface be so dirty

00:18:42.100 that then the print itself

00:18:43.360 actually makes it clean

00:18:44.580 and that

00:18:45.060 you know what I'm saying

00:18:45.860 yes on dirty windows

00:18:47.000 we get those on a break-in

00:18:48.220 when they push up

00:18:49.240 push up a window

00:18:50.340 and leave them behind

00:18:51.480 and you can literally

00:18:52.160 see them

00:18:52.960 because you can see

00:18:53.540 sometimes they'll smear the dirt

00:18:54.860 sometimes it's so dirty though

00:18:56.440 the dust won't

00:18:57.800 the dust won't adhere to it

00:18:59.500 got it

00:18:59.980 what's a person

00:19:01.960 who picks up the fingerprints

00:19:02.840 what do they call that person

00:19:03.980 well we do it

00:19:05.660 detectives do it

00:19:06.400 oh detectives do it

00:19:07.000 they do it in Boston

00:19:07.660 yeah

00:19:08.020 some in other places

00:19:08.940 like the crime scene tech

00:19:10.020 will come out

00:19:10.560 in other departments

00:19:11.820 but we do it ourselves

00:19:13.040 unless it's like

00:19:13.740 a major incident

00:19:14.460 like a homicide

00:19:15.080 then the homicide unit

00:19:16.720 will call the forensic unit

00:19:17.980 like

00:19:18.320 and they'll

00:19:19.120 those

00:19:19.440 those are civilians

00:19:20.440 they're not police officers

00:19:21.520 but they'll have

00:19:22.240 they have gone to school for that

00:19:23.520 so if it's like a major

00:19:25.060 you know

00:19:25.560 like I said

00:19:26.560 a homicide

00:19:26.980 they'll call in the crime scene

00:19:28.160 techs to do it

00:19:28.740 they don't want to

00:19:29.320 mess with us

00:19:30.480 and you ever have a day

00:19:31.380 where it's just busy

00:19:32.000 and you're like

00:19:32.260 oh shit

00:19:32.640 I gotta get to my kid's birthday

00:19:33.820 or whatever

00:19:34.120 I'm gonna fucking just

00:19:34.940 we'll hope for the best of us

00:19:36.400 when you take off

00:19:37.080 yeah it sucks

00:19:37.700 like you could be

00:19:38.380 your shift ends at 4 o'clock

00:19:39.660 if you work days

00:19:40.400 and at 345

00:19:41.640 someone

00:19:42.160 a person's stabbed

00:19:43.320 alright I won't be home

00:19:44.800 until midnight

00:19:45.300 so

00:19:45.720 oh you say

00:19:46.420 oh so you stay

00:19:47.180 you stay

00:19:48.140 oh yeah

00:19:48.880 I was saying like

00:19:49.700 have you ever had a thing

00:19:50.380 where it's like

00:19:50.940 I gotta get out of here

00:19:52.420 you know

00:19:52.740 instead of doing the work

00:19:54.060 instead of dusting

00:19:54.820 for these fingerprints

00:19:55.740 I'm gonna hit the road

00:19:56.480 you know

00:19:56.740 you can't do that

00:19:57.300 you can't

00:19:57.720 no

00:19:58.020 it's on you

00:19:58.880 it's your case

00:19:59.900 if you're on call

00:20:01.860 we call it catch day

00:20:02.840 in Boston

00:20:03.500 but detectives

00:20:04.260 like certain squads

00:20:05.260 are in charge

00:20:06.320 of all those calls

00:20:07.060 that day

00:20:07.520 so

00:20:08.100 you know

00:20:09.080 five things could come in

00:20:10.120 we could get a shooting

00:20:11.000 a stabbing

00:20:11.580 an armed robbery

00:20:12.200 and you know

00:20:13.640 missing person

00:20:14.260 and they're all assigned

00:20:15.120 to you

00:20:15.560 but it's not that busy

00:20:16.880 but it can be

00:20:18.260 you might have a day

00:20:19.220 like you don't even go pee

00:20:20.420 you don't even eat lunch

00:20:21.780 I mean it's few and far between

00:20:23.140 but it definitely happens

00:20:24.300 wow

00:20:25.040 so you're just cruising like that

00:20:26.140 yeah

00:20:26.460 how much

00:20:27.880 you mentioned television

00:20:28.640 a little bit ago

00:20:29.040 how much is television

00:20:30.340 and what people think

00:20:31.580 and expect

00:20:32.080 how much has that affected

00:20:33.320 like the prosecution of cases

00:20:34.860 ruined it

00:20:35.520 absolutely destroyed it

00:20:36.580 yeah

00:20:36.840 because everyone has

00:20:37.820 such high expectations

00:20:38.820 if they watch you know

00:20:39.960 CSI Miami

00:20:40.740 or whatever the hell it is

00:20:42.020 and see they solve

00:20:43.300 everything instantly

00:20:44.220 and they have

00:20:46.260 cooperative witnesses

00:20:47.040 or they have all these

00:20:47.980 piles of evidence

00:20:48.920 and like I said

00:20:49.860 people in

00:20:50.420 because of that

00:20:51.400 people in regular juries

00:20:53.000 and regular court cases

00:20:54.120 expect

00:20:54.620 oh

00:20:55.200 they literally come back

00:20:56.720 with no saying

00:20:57.320 why don't you have fingerprints

00:20:58.600 why don't you have DNA

00:20:59.840 like why don't you have that

00:21:01.100 well not every case has that

00:21:02.800 like I said

00:21:03.240 a bank robbery comes in

00:21:04.300 they don't touch the counter

00:21:05.220 we have no DNA

00:21:06.260 we have no fingerprints

00:21:07.420 we have to go on

00:21:09.360 eyewitness identification

00:21:10.460 and videos now everywhere

00:21:11.740 videos huge

00:21:12.680 videos are huge help

00:21:14.080 but it's definitely

00:21:14.780 the shows have been

00:21:15.520 a detriment to

00:21:16.320 prosecuting cases for sure

00:21:18.500 so you think it's made

00:21:19.300 that the shows have made it

00:21:20.840 harder to prosecute cases

00:21:21.740 absolutely

00:21:22.200 because people have

00:21:23.100 higher expectations

00:21:24.020 the juries do

00:21:24.920 the juries do

00:21:25.440 and they're like

00:21:25.860 oh there's not enough here

00:21:26.760 yes

00:21:27.140 they'll be like

00:21:27.640 you don't have anything

00:21:29.320 where is everything

00:21:30.500 it's like

00:21:31.000 well we have

00:21:31.540 you know

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00:24:17.100 first 48

00:24:17.780 right

00:24:18.180 and my

00:24:19.320 friend

00:24:19.500 Chris D'Elia

00:24:19.960 he's a

00:24:20.300 comedian

00:24:20.580 he's

00:24:21.220 he has this

00:24:22.020 great joke

00:24:22.460 he's like

00:24:22.780 the first

00:24:23.540 48

00:24:23.980 and I'm

00:24:24.540 paraphrasing

00:24:25.040 he's like

00:24:25.360 the first

00:24:25.980 48

00:24:26.360 it's like

00:24:26.800 these detectives

00:24:28.400 have 48

00:24:28.980 hours to

00:24:29.500 solve the

00:24:29.920 crime

00:24:30.260 but really

00:24:30.820 they have

00:24:31.220 as much

00:24:31.600 time as

00:24:31.980 they want

00:24:32.340 yeah

00:24:32.560 they do

00:24:33.460 we do

00:24:34.060 you know

00:24:34.600 sometimes

00:24:35.020 you're waiting

00:24:35.460 on video

00:24:36.020 like it

00:24:36.500 doesn't

00:24:36.840 obviously

00:24:37.240 if you

00:24:37.580 don't have

00:24:37.960 a suspect

00:24:38.360 like right

00:24:38.940 away

00:24:39.340 but if

00:24:42.320 you work

00:24:42.700 at it

00:24:43.000 sometimes

00:24:43.380 the evidence

00:24:44.020 is out

00:24:44.340 that you

00:24:44.560 just have

00:24:44.780 to find

00:24:45.140 it

00:24:45.260 it might

00:24:45.480 not

00:24:45.680 slap

00:24:46.100 you in

00:24:46.320 the face

00:24:46.680 10 minutes

00:24:47.200 after the

00:24:47.660 incident

00:24:48.020 right

00:24:48.400 but do you

00:24:49.080 really only

00:24:49.500 have 48

00:24:49.980 hours

00:24:50.300 no

00:24:50.500 we have

00:24:51.240 all the

00:24:51.520 time you

00:24:51.840 need

00:24:52.120 except

00:24:52.440 it gets

00:24:54.760 busy

00:24:55.200 and if

00:24:55.720 I have

00:24:56.140 you know

00:24:56.400 three cases

00:24:57.020 that day

00:24:57.620 and if

00:24:58.160 like I

00:24:58.440 gotta work

00:24:58.900 on it

00:24:59.320 and then

00:24:59.680 two days

00:25:00.100 from now

00:25:00.560 I get

00:25:01.000 another big

00:25:01.540 one

00:25:01.820 like a

00:25:02.560 shooting

00:25:02.860 or a

00:25:03.200 stabbing

00:25:03.540 or whatever

00:25:03.900 now your

00:25:05.600 attention

00:25:06.940 is split

00:25:07.520 so time

00:25:08.920 is of the

00:25:09.340 essence

00:25:09.900 because something

00:25:10.600 else is always

00:25:11.360 gonna happen

00:25:11.840 something's

00:25:12.820 coming

00:25:13.140 and whether

00:25:13.640 you have

00:25:14.100 a leisurely

00:25:15.000 amount of

00:25:15.380 time to

00:25:15.800 work on

00:25:16.120 the case

00:25:16.540 like then

00:25:17.220 you're working

00:25:17.520 overtime

00:25:17.860 then you're

00:25:18.260 working a

00:25:18.600 double

00:25:18.820 to try

00:25:19.240 to stay

00:25:19.560 and work

00:25:19.840 on this

00:25:20.180 case

00:25:20.500 because another

00:25:21.320 one could

00:25:21.600 come in

00:25:21.880 tomorrow

00:25:22.160 so it is

00:25:23.180 this point

00:25:25.180 to it

00:25:25.520 like the

00:25:25.840 40 ads

00:25:26.160 are important

00:25:26.760 but I think

00:25:28.020 more so

00:25:28.420 because something

00:25:28.980 else is coming

00:25:29.580 so it's gonna

00:25:30.460 take the

00:25:31.080 attention away

00:25:31.780 and then you

00:25:32.340 can only be

00:25:33.020 in so many

00:25:33.780 places at once

00:25:35.140 you know what I

00:25:35.700 mean

00:25:35.860 you can't

00:25:36.320 you can't

00:25:36.660 yeah I

00:25:37.520 never thought

00:25:38.280 about that

00:25:38.660 part of it

00:25:39.300 how do you

00:25:40.280 prioritize what

00:25:40.940 cases are most

00:25:41.560 important

00:25:42.040 I mean

00:25:45.200 obviously

00:25:45.580 like if someone

00:25:46.320 gets shot

00:25:46.880 or stabbed

00:25:47.520 like that's

00:25:48.160 a violent

00:25:48.960 crime

00:25:49.620 and you

00:25:49.860 want that

00:25:50.260 person

00:25:50.660 who

00:25:50.880 it's

00:25:51.280 more

00:25:51.800 defendant

00:25:52.300 based

00:25:52.600 like the

00:25:52.920 kind of

00:25:53.260 person

00:25:53.560 that's gonna

00:25:53.940 do that

00:25:54.480 you want

00:25:55.040 them

00:25:55.380 off the

00:25:56.000 streets

00:25:56.240 right

00:25:56.560 right

00:25:56.960 and if

00:25:58.000 you know

00:25:58.500 compared to

00:25:59.500 you know

00:26:00.340 identity

00:26:00.780 fraud

00:26:01.220 well

00:26:01.720 that's not

00:26:02.820 an emergency

00:26:03.420 that can

00:26:04.300 wait

00:26:04.660 you know

00:26:04.980 what I

00:26:05.100 mean

00:26:05.200 so those

00:26:05.660 kind of

00:26:06.080 like

00:26:06.260 because we

00:26:06.520 get a ton

00:26:07.040 of fraud

00:26:07.440 check fraud

00:26:08.820 and all that

00:26:09.260 shit

00:26:09.460 bank fraud

00:26:09.880 it's a nightmare

00:26:10.400 because it's

00:26:11.380 a lot of

00:26:11.740 the times

00:26:12.000 it's not even

00:26:12.400 taking place

00:26:13.000 we have our

00:26:13.660 victims in

00:26:14.160 our city

00:26:14.560 but suspects

00:26:15.380 are all

00:26:15.860 over the

00:26:16.160 country

00:26:16.420 or all

00:26:16.760 over the

00:26:17.040 world

00:26:17.320 so you

00:26:17.880 can't

00:26:18.060 prosecute

00:26:18.540 them

00:26:18.800 so it's

00:26:20.200 hard to

00:26:20.520 chase down

00:26:20.900 so those

00:26:21.300 are kind

00:26:21.660 of

00:26:22.300 to the

00:26:22.940 victim

00:26:23.200 it's not

00:26:23.600 a lower

00:26:23.840 priority

00:26:24.240 they're the

00:26:24.600 one that

00:26:24.940 had their

00:26:25.280 money stolen

00:26:25.940 or whatever

00:26:26.780 but it's not

00:26:27.920 the same as

00:26:28.440 being shot

00:26:29.000 or stabbed

00:26:29.620 or having

00:26:30.220 a criminal

00:26:30.860 that's out

00:26:31.420 there

00:26:31.560 violent

00:26:31.920 armed

00:26:32.160 robbery

00:26:32.540 or something

00:26:33.100 like that

00:26:33.560 we gotta find

00:26:33.720 this guy

00:26:33.980 now

00:26:34.120 because obviously

00:26:34.620 they're in

00:26:35.000 heat for

00:26:35.380 crime

00:26:35.720 yes

00:26:36.080 exactly

00:26:36.560 wow

00:26:37.440 so are there

00:26:38.340 days when you

00:26:39.060 kind of get to

00:26:39.560 the end of your

00:26:40.100 shift almost

00:26:40.840 and you look

00:26:41.500 and you're like

00:26:42.120 oh my god

00:26:42.660 there's still

00:26:43.040 that one

00:26:43.480 missing person

00:26:44.180 I didn't reach

00:26:44.640 out about

00:26:45.020 or there's still

00:26:45.400 this one thing

00:26:45.940 it's always a

00:26:46.400 pile

00:26:46.660 and now I have

00:26:47.240 to go do

00:26:47.600 that

00:26:47.940 yeah

00:26:48.280 oh

00:26:49.040 you very rarely

00:26:50.300 get to go home

00:26:50.960 at the end

00:26:51.400 of your shift

00:26:52.840 you're always

00:26:53.840 staying

00:26:54.140 and how

00:26:55.920 what's that effect

00:26:56.920 like on your

00:26:57.780 home life

00:26:58.340 like were you

00:26:58.700 able to have

00:26:59.140 kind of a

00:26:59.460 home life

00:26:59.860 like what was

00:27:00.260 that like

00:27:00.560 for you

00:27:00.840 yeah I mean

00:27:01.140 it makes it

00:27:02.320 trickier for sure

00:27:03.140 you need help

00:27:04.100 at home

00:27:04.500 it definitely

00:27:04.960 makes it more

00:27:05.500 difficult

00:27:05.840 and were you

00:27:06.960 able to have

00:27:07.240 a family

00:27:07.540 except you have

00:27:07.940 children

00:27:08.240 yeah

00:27:08.820 nice

00:27:09.560 oh your daughter's

00:27:10.460 here

00:27:10.620 my daughter's

00:27:11.220 here

00:27:11.440 oh nice

00:27:11.800 I forgot

00:27:12.140 yeah

00:27:12.480 I didn't

00:27:12.900 forget

00:27:13.280 but I think

00:27:14.120 I just didn't

00:27:14.480 know if she

00:27:14.740 wanted to say

00:27:15.220 it or not

00:27:15.540 maybe too

00:27:16.040 so yeah

00:27:17.260 so yeah

00:27:18.180 how do you

00:27:18.520 manage that

00:27:20.300 was that

00:27:21.020 it's tricky

00:27:21.520 it was difficult

00:27:22.140 it was

00:27:22.620 not a lie

00:27:22.920 it was

00:27:23.360 it was hard

00:27:23.840 yeah

00:27:24.160 because if

00:27:24.940 you're expected

00:27:25.520 to come home

00:27:26.040 I get you

00:27:26.400 to help them

00:27:26.860 with that

00:27:27.220 project

00:27:27.720 or

00:27:28.120 just gotta make

00:27:29.020 supper

00:27:29.340 and you have

00:27:30.420 to call

00:27:30.700 and be like

00:27:31.080 I'm not

00:27:31.400 I'm not gonna

00:27:32.120 make it

00:27:32.520 someone got

00:27:33.060 stabbed

00:27:33.520 or I gotta

00:27:33.880 stay late

00:27:34.380 a lot of

00:27:34.680 times you know

00:27:35.220 you're gonna

00:27:35.580 be like okay

00:27:36.280 those days I know

00:27:37.880 I can stay

00:27:38.340 late because

00:27:38.920 I have coverage

00:27:39.660 with the kids

00:27:40.120 or whatever

00:27:40.500 yeah

00:27:41.060 but it's

00:27:42.100 it's not easy

00:27:43.060 but at least

00:27:43.940 you had a good

00:27:44.520 excuse

00:27:45.160 yeah

00:27:45.900 I mean I

00:27:46.300 wasn't

00:27:46.560 you know

00:27:47.160 getting my nails

00:27:47.820 done

00:27:48.180 or getting

00:27:48.960 shit faced

00:27:49.620 but

00:27:49.940 yeah I'm getting

00:27:50.400 my nails done

00:27:51.300 or I'm getting

00:27:51.700 yeah

00:27:52.040 I'm working

00:27:52.880 yeah

00:27:53.420 at least

00:27:54.080 it wasn't like

00:27:54.800 yeah I'm drinking

00:27:55.540 or something

00:27:56.060 or Euclid is on

00:27:57.040 third base

00:27:57.700 I can't

00:27:58.160 you know

00:27:58.500 I'm not gonna

00:27:59.760 be home

00:28:00.520 on time

00:28:01.280 yeah

00:28:01.480 do you start

00:28:02.780 to see where

00:28:03.440 family life suffers

00:28:04.560 do you see it

00:28:05.300 like you know

00:28:06.580 because that's also

00:28:07.120 a common theme

00:28:07.740 in a lot of

00:28:08.160 like police

00:28:09.920 serial programming

00:28:11.260 and films

00:28:11.980 and stuff

00:28:12.400 where the detective

00:28:13.660 is working late

00:28:14.460 and then there's

00:28:14.980 the family thing

00:28:15.700 starts to suffer

00:28:16.460 you know

00:28:16.920 I mean I'm sure

00:28:18.040 it did

00:28:18.420 but like I said

00:28:20.160 you've kind of

00:28:21.060 figured it out

00:28:21.620 you make it work

00:28:22.440 you do what you can

00:28:23.200 like I was a detective

00:28:24.180 in a busy part

00:28:25.320 of the city

00:28:25.820 and that's why

00:28:26.520 I transferred

00:28:26.860 to the human

00:28:27.340 trafficking unit

00:28:28.120 because that was

00:28:28.920 like a Monday

00:28:29.760 through Friday job

00:28:30.560 not a rotating

00:28:31.360 schedule

00:28:31.820 because I worked

00:28:32.480 holidays

00:28:32.900 we worked

00:28:33.300 every Christmas

00:28:33.840 you got a holiday

00:28:34.600 off every six years

00:28:36.640 so every

00:28:37.580 but you'd get

00:28:38.080 all the holidays

00:28:38.680 off that year

00:28:39.300 so that year

00:28:39.820 you're getting

00:28:40.260 you know

00:28:40.620 excuse me

00:28:41.420 you're getting

00:28:41.700 Easter

00:28:42.160 excuse me please

00:28:43.700 Thanksgiving

00:28:44.220 Christmas

00:28:45.000 New Year's

00:28:45.520 you'll get

00:28:45.780 all the biggies

00:28:46.340 off

00:28:46.680 but then it's

00:28:47.580 six more years

00:28:48.200 until you get

00:28:48.700 another one

00:28:49.180 so I went

00:28:51.380 to human trafficking

00:28:52.040 drink some water

00:28:52.540 real quick

00:28:52.860 you're good

00:28:53.760 horrific

00:28:54.580 sorry miss

00:28:55.260 you are

00:28:55.920 I don't want to

00:28:58.100 tell you what to do

00:28:58.700 anything

00:28:58.940 thank you for your

00:28:59.620 service

00:28:59.920 that's what I'm saying

00:29:00.540 so it's six

00:29:02.220 so that

00:29:02.520 wow

00:29:02.840 that's wild

00:29:03.960 so that time

00:29:04.960 you get to spend

00:29:05.400 with your family

00:29:05.800 it's really crucial

00:29:06.600 yeah especially

00:29:07.840 holidays

00:29:08.260 you know

00:29:08.700 but if you're

00:29:09.040 working different

00:29:09.500 shifts

00:29:09.800 if you're

00:29:10.060 working the

00:29:10.360 midnight shift

00:29:10.900 you can kind

00:29:11.400 of go home

00:29:11.780 and start

00:29:12.120 sleep for a couple

00:29:12.660 hours

00:29:13.040 and then

00:29:13.560 meet everybody

00:29:14.920 at Thanksgiving

00:29:15.480 so that's how

00:29:16.920 Boston worked

00:29:17.520 obviously different

00:29:18.260 cities do different

00:29:19.040 things

00:29:19.320 we just had

00:29:19.840 six squads

00:29:20.540 rotating days

00:29:21.620 off

00:29:21.940 but some units

00:29:23.260 like the human

00:29:23.720 trafficking unit

00:29:24.380 is Monday through

00:29:24.980 Friday

00:29:25.260 so it's a little

00:29:25.820 more normal

00:29:26.320 if you have

00:29:26.780 young kids

00:29:27.340 or a family

00:29:27.860 and you want

00:29:28.320 to be a regular

00:29:29.280 person as I call it

00:29:30.280 and have Saturday

00:29:30.760 and Sunday off

00:29:31.360 like everybody else

00:29:32.220 those units are

00:29:33.720 better for something

00:29:34.700 like that

00:29:35.240 got it

00:29:35.660 and I know

00:29:36.160 you ended up

00:29:36.660 in that unit

00:29:37.000 I want to talk

00:29:37.540 to you about

00:29:38.020 that in just a second

00:29:38.700 take me through

00:29:39.420 a couple more

00:29:39.900 detective calls

00:29:40.820 that were

00:29:41.380 interesting to you

00:29:42.840 or that really

00:29:43.640 stood out

00:29:44.280 I'd say

00:29:46.240 I always

00:29:46.900 my joke was

00:29:47.740 I was going to

00:29:48.260 be that I was

00:29:48.600 going to write

00:29:48.960 a book

00:29:49.340 and the name

00:29:49.980 of it was

00:29:50.260 going to be

00:29:50.620 Dick on the

00:29:51.240 Sidewalk

00:29:51.840 and other

00:29:52.420 stories from

00:29:52.980 the street

00:29:53.420 the last few

00:29:54.700 years I was

00:29:56.640 a detective

00:29:57.100 I got like

00:29:57.720 three of the

00:29:58.140 craziest cases

00:29:59.000 of my life

00:30:00.540 in year 31

00:30:02.340 we had someone

00:30:06.200 the guy cut off

00:30:06.960 his own dick

00:30:07.700 and threw it

00:30:08.880 on the sidewalk

00:30:09.500 oh for what

00:30:10.480 because he was

00:30:11.340 he was crazy

00:30:12.100 he was mentally ill

00:30:13.180 but we don't know

00:30:13.800 any of this

00:30:14.380 so the call

00:30:14.960 came in

00:30:15.560 in the morning

00:30:16.260 I was on the way

00:30:16.820 in it was early

00:30:17.380 in the morning

00:30:17.760 it was cold out

00:30:18.560 I remember that

00:30:19.260 oh yeah

00:30:19.940 I have the radio

00:30:20.500 on and I hit

00:30:21.580 the dispatcher

00:30:22.340 call a car

00:30:22.840 and then start

00:30:23.340 to laugh

00:30:23.940 and then she

00:30:24.820 says disregard

00:30:25.520 we don't know

00:30:26.860 what's happened

00:30:27.240 so I'm driving

00:30:27.820 to the station

00:30:28.380 and then a call

00:30:28.860 comes in again

00:30:29.580 sending a different

00:30:30.320 car because it

00:30:30.920 was like the

00:30:31.280 midnight shift

00:30:31.860 ending

00:30:32.620 sending a different

00:30:33.880 car hey can you

00:30:34.820 go to this

00:30:35.280 location

00:30:35.720 someone said

00:30:36.280 there's a

00:30:36.600 some mail

00:30:37.140 and a piece

00:30:37.620 of mail

00:30:38.040 anatomy

00:30:38.460 on the sidewalk

00:30:39.360 and we were

00:30:39.880 all laughing

00:30:40.220 we thought it

00:30:40.720 was we thought

00:30:41.860 it was a dildo

00:30:42.400 we thought it

00:30:42.700 was a joke

00:30:43.100 that's why

00:30:43.440 the dispatcher

00:30:44.140 was laughing

00:30:44.680 you just thought

00:30:45.160 it was like

00:30:45.360 a WNBA game

00:30:46.260 or whatever

00:30:46.640 it wasn't green

00:30:48.220 call comes in

00:30:49.960 like 10 minutes

00:30:50.600 later

00:30:50.940 and my detective

00:30:52.220 that I was working

00:30:52.740 with at the time

00:30:53.180 looked it up

00:30:53.680 on the computer

00:30:54.240 to see the text

00:30:55.020 of the call

00:30:55.560 like what does

00:30:56.160 this actually say

00:30:57.080 and then we saw

00:30:58.500 that the caller

00:30:59.080 was from

00:30:59.700 a nearby health

00:31:00.720 center

00:31:01.020 and it said

00:31:02.200 there's you know

00:31:02.880 it appears to be

00:31:03.900 a penis on the ground

00:31:04.680 there's blood

00:31:05.140 everywhere

00:31:05.500 we're like

00:31:05.840 oh shit

00:31:06.380 that's not fake

00:31:08.180 so the patrolmen

00:31:11.480 go up there

00:31:12.180 and so that's

00:31:13.080 our starting point

00:31:13.840 we don't know

00:31:14.260 anything else

00:31:14.900 and literally

00:31:15.560 there it is

00:31:16.220 I wasn't there yet

00:31:17.040 the patrolmen

00:31:17.640 see it on the sidewalk

00:31:18.540 and there's a blood trail

00:31:19.840 so they start following

00:31:21.180 the blood trail

00:31:21.860 and it went

00:31:22.480 it went a long way

00:31:24.180 several hundred yards

00:31:25.300 and it gets worse

00:31:26.380 and worse

00:31:26.880 so it

00:31:27.860 that's how it starts

00:31:28.800 so that's our starting point

00:31:30.160 and the patrolmen

00:31:30.840 follow the blood trail

00:31:31.760 and then they're following it

00:31:32.600 up the stairs

00:31:33.160 of this three family house

00:31:34.240 it's like three apartments

00:31:35.060 in one house

00:31:35.460 and the blood gets

00:31:36.160 bigger and bigger

00:31:36.840 they knock on the door

00:31:38.560 this guy opens the door

00:31:39.940 completely naked

00:31:40.940 a hole

00:31:42.020 where his dick used to be

00:31:43.320 and he's just standing there

00:31:44.600 not talking

00:31:45.420 and they're like

00:31:46.120 hey buddy

00:31:47.060 you okay

00:31:47.780 like

00:31:48.220 and he's just like

00:31:49.360 he doesn't speak

00:31:50.100 he just stares at them

00:31:51.100 so that

00:31:52.180 they're new

00:31:52.700 they were newer guys

00:31:53.520 I felt so bad for them

00:31:54.460 that's a tough call

00:31:56.000 they weren't brand new

00:31:56.860 obviously

00:31:57.320 but that's a lot

00:31:58.740 for young guys

00:32:00.100 to see this right

00:32:00.980 oh yeah

00:32:01.480 just see some cock

00:32:02.480 down the street

00:32:03.040 they're like hey

00:32:03.360 why don't you

00:32:03.920 why don't you come in

00:32:04.760 and sit down

00:32:05.440 so they

00:32:05.900 and turns out

00:32:06.480 it was like a group home

00:32:07.480 for mentally ill people

00:32:08.800 but there's no staff members

00:32:10.060 or anything

00:32:10.460 so there's three people

00:32:11.360 in the house

00:32:11.820 it is a blood bath

00:32:13.320 there's blood everywhere

00:32:14.780 in the bedroom

00:32:15.700 the floor

00:32:16.160 the sink was full of it

00:32:17.520 so they find that

00:32:19.680 and they get on the radio

00:32:20.620 and they're like

00:32:21.220 get us an ambulance

00:32:22.160 whatever

00:32:22.600 because we don't know

00:32:23.500 how is someone alive

00:32:25.300 right

00:32:25.620 so

00:32:25.900 he's alive

00:32:27.600 so

00:32:28.420 I get called

00:32:30.140 and me

00:32:30.740 and another detective

00:32:31.560 my boss went down

00:32:32.580 and it's on the sidewalk

00:32:34.120 and they're taking photographs

00:32:35.640 or whatever

00:32:36.080 and they call

00:32:37.000 once the ambulance

00:32:37.640 find out he's alive

00:32:38.740 they just assume

00:32:39.360 somebody had bled out

00:32:40.160 somewhere and was dead

00:32:41.160 or someone did it

00:32:42.340 to somebody else

00:32:43.280 he's like no

00:32:44.280 I did it

00:32:44.960 like oh shit

00:32:46.580 okay

00:32:46.940 so he's being honest

00:32:47.840 yeah

00:32:48.540 well he's just completely

00:32:49.520 and utterly mentally

00:32:50.140 at some other point

00:32:51.020 he'd like caught off

00:32:51.700 his own nipples

00:32:52.260 he said to let the devil out

00:32:53.500 so the poor thing

00:32:54.160 was very mentally ill

00:32:55.400 he was young

00:32:56.240 early 20s

00:32:57.020 so

00:32:58.920 once the EMTs

00:33:00.960 find out

00:33:01.520 this person's alive

00:33:02.580 now they want to

00:33:03.360 try to collect it

00:33:04.360 to see if they can

00:33:05.720 reattach it

00:33:06.320 at the hospital

00:33:06.640 so we had done

00:33:07.800 our photos

00:33:08.300 I actually have a video

00:33:09.320 of this whole thing

00:33:09.960 I pulled video

00:33:10.620 from the street

00:33:11.280 nearby surveillance video

00:33:12.480 that's how I know

00:33:13.180 kind of everything

00:33:14.300 after the fact

00:33:15.120 they come down

00:33:16.820 to reattach it

00:33:17.780 and we had just done

00:33:18.340 the photos

00:33:18.760 I didn't look directly

00:33:19.640 at it

00:33:19.960 I can do

00:33:20.700 oh never stare into it

00:33:22.100 you do like a weird

00:33:23.720 blurring

00:33:24.360 it's almost like

00:33:25.140 when someone blurs

00:33:25.860 out somebody's face

00:33:26.640 that's what your brain does

00:33:28.080 you're like I don't

00:33:28.740 I don't want to see that

00:33:29.960 I don't want to see all of it

00:33:30.760 it was big

00:33:32.140 it was nasty

00:33:32.900 so they try to come down

00:33:35.020 to take it off the sidewalk

00:33:36.120 he goes to pick it up

00:33:37.260 and what are they using

00:33:37.780 a spatula or whatever

00:33:38.780 no he had gloves on

00:33:40.400 he was using his hand

00:33:41.300 and he had this weird

00:33:42.300 clear cylinder

00:33:44.120 he was an EMT

00:33:44.820 he had this like

00:33:45.380 cylinder thing

00:33:46.160 he was going to put it in

00:33:46.880 remember at the bank

00:33:48.400 you would put that

00:33:48.880 check in the thing

00:33:49.660 and send it back up

00:33:50.400 literally like that

00:33:52.120 so he goes

00:33:53.440 he goes to pick it up

00:33:55.580 and it's been so cold

00:33:57.340 he's tugging it

00:33:59.800 and it was frozen

00:34:00.760 to the sidewalk

00:34:01.780 no way

00:34:02.440 like that guy

00:34:02.940 from Christmas Story

00:34:03.760 bring that up

00:34:04.540 like it's tugged

00:34:06.280 that's what happened

00:34:07.260 to the poor guy

00:34:07.980 bring that up real quick

00:34:08.740 because people forget

00:34:09.480 that that can happen

00:34:10.500 oh yeah

00:34:11.860 oh

00:34:13.360 and let's get

00:34:14.380 just to give us

00:34:15.500 a descriptive visual

00:34:18.040 what kind of

00:34:19.300 wiener

00:34:20.040 are we talking about

00:34:20.560 and if you're wieners

00:34:21.200 I don't know if it's still

00:34:21.980 what kind of

00:34:22.900 what kind of wiener

00:34:24.820 side

00:34:25.240 like

00:34:25.700 because that's just

00:34:26.560 a sidewalk wiener

00:34:27.440 what kind of wiener

00:34:28.060 are we talking about

00:34:28.900 it's big

00:34:29.700 it was

00:34:30.360 it was big

00:34:31.040 and it looked purple

00:34:31.980 ooh

00:34:32.640 yeah

00:34:33.240 it was a black guy

00:34:34.640 and it almost looked purple

00:34:35.740 but he went to tug it

00:34:37.620 and because it froze

00:34:38.500 he gave it a second tug

00:34:39.780 and then like

00:34:40.780 he didn't let go of it

00:34:41.840 it like went in the air

00:34:43.040 and this thing

00:34:44.160 came out

00:34:44.760 I don't know if it was

00:34:45.340 his urethra

00:34:45.820 I don't know what the fuck it was

00:34:46.980 I compared later

00:34:49.040 to like a balloon streamer

00:34:50.320 came like flying out the end

00:34:51.720 oh that's some party confetti baby

00:34:53.260 and I just turned

00:34:53.520 and dry heaved

00:34:54.520 into the street

00:34:55.080 I've never thrown up at the job

00:34:56.640 I've never done it

00:34:57.420 I dry heaved

00:34:58.760 into the street

00:34:59.520 and I was like

00:35:00.040 what the fuck

00:35:00.900 and some young patrolman

00:35:02.000 who was there

00:35:02.600 and this is all on video

00:35:03.900 he's in his uniform

00:35:04.700 and he does this little

00:35:05.920 kicky uncomfortable dance

00:35:07.360 because he's like

00:35:07.880 oh my god

00:35:08.520 that was horrific

00:35:09.200 oh he couldn't handle it like that

00:35:10.580 exactly

00:35:11.260 and then later

00:35:12.460 I pulled the video

00:35:13.240 from the street

00:35:13.780 we're like

00:35:14.060 how did this get there

00:35:15.100 how did this guy

00:35:15.760 get back to the house

00:35:16.620 he had cut it off

00:35:18.620 several hours before

00:35:20.020 in the house

00:35:21.020 walked down the street

00:35:22.660 and he's completely naked

00:35:23.760 nobody called police

00:35:24.920 this is the best part

00:35:25.820 there's people going to work

00:35:26.820 it's like 3 or 4 in the morning

00:35:28.020 busy busy street

00:35:29.440 driving down the street

00:35:30.900 he's completely naked

00:35:32.120 what no one called 911

00:35:33.380 and he's walking down the street

00:35:35.440 and I have a video of it

00:35:36.460 he leans

00:35:36.880 he cut it

00:35:37.940 but it wasn't off altogether

00:35:39.120 oh

00:35:40.000 so he leans down

00:35:41.480 wow bro

00:35:41.880 that's that

00:35:42.300 whoa

00:35:42.660 that's that Memphis

00:35:43.700 and then threw it on the sidewalk

00:35:45.240 no

00:35:45.620 oh

00:35:46.460 so wait

00:35:47.740 tell me that part again

00:35:48.540 he what

00:35:48.920 so he

00:35:49.740 so I'm watching this video

00:35:51.160 so he leans

00:35:51.440 tell me that part again

00:35:52.000 so I'm watching the video

00:35:53.060 and try to find him

00:35:54.060 like what time did this happen

00:35:55.240 and you just see this form

00:35:56.520 it's dark

00:35:57.120 and he's completely naked

00:35:58.320 walking down the street

00:35:59.700 and all of a sudden

00:36:00.960 he leans over

00:36:02.160 I'm like what's he doing

00:36:03.000 and he's in the direction

00:36:03.920 it's kind of from the side

00:36:04.980 direction of his crotch

00:36:05.840 you see his arm move

00:36:06.840 like a tug

00:36:07.540 and then he just

00:36:08.720 fucking threw it

00:36:09.760 and I remember

00:36:11.000 when I pulled the video

00:36:11.720 I didn't know this had happened

00:36:12.780 I watched it

00:36:13.780 and I pushed my chair back

00:36:15.700 from the desk

00:36:16.200 and screamed

00:36:16.880 I was like

00:36:17.480 what the fuck

00:36:19.120 the worst part is

00:36:20.820 he came

00:36:21.220 so if you can believe

00:36:22.020 something's worse

00:36:22.700 he came back

00:36:23.460 about a half an hour later

00:36:24.360 he walked like a mile

00:36:25.420 they said that's what saved him

00:36:26.660 why he didn't bleed to death

00:36:27.760 it was so cold

00:36:28.560 it coagulated the blood

00:36:30.100 so he didn't bleed to death

00:36:31.120 he came back

00:36:32.580 and he's walking down the street

00:36:34.460 and as he sees it

00:36:35.920 he walks over to it

00:36:37.800 and gets down on all fours

00:36:39.620 and leaned over

00:36:40.620 and kissed it

00:36:41.640 and then got up

00:36:42.880 and walked away

00:36:43.340 I thought he was going to eat it

00:36:44.300 like a dog bone

00:36:45.040 honest to God

00:36:45.880 I was like

00:36:46.260 what is happening

00:36:47.200 what is happening

00:36:48.040 he bent down

00:36:49.480 gave it a smooch

00:36:50.600 and got up

00:36:51.200 and walked home

00:36:51.780 oh god

00:36:52.940 it was fucking crazy

00:36:54.520 oh my god

00:36:55.880 the poor bastard

00:36:57.140 let me tell

00:36:57.900 because I got to go through

00:36:58.480 a couple beats of that story

00:36:59.520 and dear god

00:37:00.540 let me just say that out loud

00:37:02.040 so god knows

00:37:02.840 that we're just

00:37:03.420 alarmed by this

00:37:04.700 first of all

00:37:06.080 the fact that he cut it

00:37:07.060 and it was just hanging there

00:37:08.560 he didn't do the job

00:37:09.440 just like a piece of Memphis

00:37:10.500 mistletoe

00:37:11.160 just hanging there

00:37:12.040 that's so wild

00:37:13.420 yeah it was nuts

00:37:14.780 like mistletoe

00:37:15.640 at a diddy party

00:37:16.740 or something

00:37:17.180 it was crazy

00:37:17.420 and then he tugged it off

00:37:19.460 I can't even imagine

00:37:20.380 gives it a tug

00:37:21.000 because you've read

00:37:21.540 like a little hangnail

00:37:22.200 when you pull it off

00:37:23.080 kills

00:37:23.580 and this is like

00:37:25.800 there's a lot of nerve endings

00:37:27.120 down there

00:37:27.400 oh that's the ultimate hangnail

00:37:28.860 that's the most hang

00:37:30.800 that should be the name

00:37:31.620 of my chapter

00:37:32.200 not dick on the sidewalk

00:37:33.320 the ultimate hangnail

00:37:34.600 that's the most hangiest nail

00:37:35.980 that there is

00:37:37.580 when you said that

00:37:39.140 it got so visceral

00:37:40.420 I think for me

00:37:41.000 and I'm sure for anybody

00:37:41.860 most men get the same reaction

00:37:43.940 when you tell them

00:37:44.640 and then I wonder

00:37:45.280 what flew out of it

00:37:46.340 pull that up on perplexity

00:37:47.760 because I'm thinking

00:37:48.540 that's just a little

00:37:49.180 you know what it looked like

00:37:50.140 in the photo

00:37:50.840 and when I saw it come out

00:37:52.360 you know what like

00:37:53.040 sausage casing looks like

00:37:54.260 before there's a sausage

00:37:55.220 in it

00:37:55.520 it's almost like skinny

00:37:56.500 opaque kind of

00:37:58.260 almost

00:37:58.540 I don't know how else

00:38:00.220 to describe it

00:38:00.920 it's like kind of grey

00:38:02.300 and translucent

00:38:03.000 it was like a little

00:38:04.360 smaller than my pinky

00:38:05.320 and this thing

00:38:05.960 just flew out

00:38:07.080 I just could not even

00:38:08.600 yeah that's just

00:38:10.380 a little wiener funfetti

00:38:11.580 homie

00:38:11.960 let's look at

00:38:12.760 no give me a gander

00:38:14.180 at it man

00:38:14.760 I'm trying to get

00:38:15.380 I'm trying to get a gander

00:38:16.340 yeah just look at the

00:38:17.140 but let's look at the parts here

00:38:19.060 because it's fascinating

00:38:20.160 to know what is that

00:38:21.240 yeah I don't know

00:38:21.860 what the fuck it was

00:38:23.340 that's a vagina

00:38:24.320 oh no that's a wiener

00:38:25.100 sorry

00:38:25.480 oh come on

00:38:26.220 these days you can't tell

00:38:27.260 the other day

00:38:27.740 my buddy showed me

00:38:28.620 a picture of his naked wife

00:38:29.780 she has a wiener

00:38:31.280 and I was like

00:38:31.660 alright well

00:38:32.360 that's a surprise

00:38:33.560 yeah maybe it's a urethra

00:38:35.240 yes because see

00:38:36.000 the urethral opening

00:38:36.740 goes down to the end

00:38:37.580 that's what it was

00:38:38.520 god boy

00:38:39.460 yeah it was

00:38:39.980 it was dicey

00:38:41.040 it was a dice

00:38:41.660 and I remember

00:38:42.520 when we got the call

00:38:43.460 and I remember

00:38:43.860 standing over it

00:38:44.940 thinking like

00:38:46.560 where did I go wrong

00:38:47.600 in my fucking life

00:38:48.800 that it's 745

00:38:49.820 in the morning

00:38:50.400 and I'm looking

00:38:50.860 at someone's dick

00:38:51.960 on the goddamn sidewalk

00:38:53.280 you know

00:38:54.340 I was like

00:38:54.620 what did I do

00:38:55.460 what did I do

00:38:56.080 to disturb this

00:38:57.060 it's a question

00:38:58.220 as old as time

00:38:59.300 you know

00:39:00.100 it really is

00:39:00.980 poor bastard

00:39:01.720 I think a lot of women

00:39:03.060 have asked themselves

00:39:03.800 things like that

00:39:04.440 overall

00:39:04.800 you know

00:39:05.240 and in hindsight

00:39:07.340 how does that even follow up

00:39:09.120 do you guys keep that

00:39:10.160 in evidence

00:39:10.780 well no

00:39:11.180 they tried to reattach it

00:39:12.220 at the hospital

00:39:13.060 so they rushed him

00:39:13.820 to the hospital with it

00:39:14.700 and they did attach it

00:39:15.720 but it didn't take

00:39:16.520 it was like a month later

00:39:17.440 they had to like

00:39:18.080 take it off

00:39:18.740 yeah

00:39:19.800 imagine that month

00:39:22.080 oh my god

00:39:23.080 so it's funny

00:39:23.680 because of the group home

00:39:24.680 we were trying to find out

00:39:25.680 what is this kid's story

00:39:26.700 what's his name

00:39:27.300 because the other kid in the house

00:39:28.220 was not with it at all

00:39:29.300 couldn't even

00:39:29.720 he was just sitting there

00:39:30.340 playing video games

00:39:31.100 of course

00:39:31.460 it was like a bloodbath

00:39:32.400 so we're like

00:39:33.720 it's hard to get the kids

00:39:34.500 off the games

00:39:35.080 right

00:39:35.380 but these guys

00:39:36.160 they're like 20

00:39:37.460 so I called the supervisor

00:39:39.900 of the group home

00:39:40.680 and I was trying to get

00:39:41.800 some information

00:39:42.400 he's like

00:39:42.760 oh him

00:39:43.240 we're trying to find him

00:39:44.380 an in-house

00:39:45.040 a placement in a hospital

00:39:48.980 or a psych ward

00:39:50.360 because he's you know

00:39:51.140 he's been exposing his peanuts

00:39:52.300 in group classes

00:39:53.180 or whatever

00:39:53.620 in group meetings

00:39:54.760 and I said

00:39:55.300 well you're late

00:39:55.860 you're a little late

00:39:56.820 because he cut it off

00:39:57.800 and threw it on the side

00:39:58.360 with the guy

00:39:58.680 he's like what

00:39:59.280 like you could tell

00:39:59.960 he shit himself

00:40:00.560 because that's his

00:40:01.320 how someone's supposed

00:40:02.620 to be supervising

00:40:03.460 yes obviously

00:40:04.220 somebody's supposed

00:40:04.740 to be there

00:40:05.020 making sure at the very least

00:40:07.340 someone's not

00:40:08.180 lopping off their own wiener

00:40:09.380 and I just can't

00:40:10.520 I can't even imagine

00:40:11.840 the month wait

00:40:12.680 to know if it's going

00:40:13.500 to take or not

00:40:14.220 you know

00:40:14.640 I don't think he cared

00:40:15.620 but still

00:40:17.000 he was obviously crazy

00:40:19.300 I know that's not

00:40:20.340 the technical

00:40:20.820 but you don't think

00:40:21.340 he cared why

00:40:21.940 I mean he cut off

00:40:23.260 to begin with

00:40:23.780 he said he was

00:40:24.180 letting the devil out

00:40:25.040 like he's just

00:40:25.740 extremely mentally ill

00:40:27.220 and I don't think

00:40:28.020 he even

00:40:28.460 kind of

00:40:29.140 I mean I think

00:40:29.660 there's a part

00:40:30.080 of a lot of people

00:40:30.640 that think the devil

00:40:31.320 lives inside of their

00:40:32.300 genitalia for some people

00:40:33.400 yeah and like I said

00:40:34.360 he cut his

00:40:34.860 he cut his nipples off

00:40:35.980 he like carved

00:40:36.560 something in his forehead

00:40:37.520 like this poor kid

00:40:38.580 was really messed up

00:40:39.960 it's heartbreaking

00:40:41.500 that people go through

00:40:42.360 so much

00:40:42.920 and I just

00:40:44.100 I can't imagine

00:40:46.460 that month

00:40:47.040 where you're waiting

00:40:47.700 to see right

00:40:48.220 like the bandage

00:40:48.980 I can't imagine

00:40:49.380 doing it

00:40:50.200 like how do you

00:40:51.040 sit there

00:40:52.040 and saw it off

00:40:53.620 and he did it

00:40:54.560 did he use a saw

00:40:55.520 now let's ask

00:40:55.980 no it's just a big

00:40:56.800 long kitchen knife

00:40:57.660 but you know

00:40:58.080 it was dull as dishwater

00:40:59.360 it was in some

00:40:59.800 shitty group home

00:41:00.740 like it's not some

00:41:01.440 nice Henkel's knife

00:41:02.500 you know what I mean

00:41:03.300 I'm sure

00:41:03.640 well it's not like

00:41:04.100 Hanzo's scissors

00:41:04.880 it was like

00:41:05.580 some plastic handled

00:41:06.900 shitty kitchen knife

00:41:08.160 it was like this long

00:41:09.040 you got to see the knife

00:41:09.880 yeah we were up

00:41:10.540 in the apartment

00:41:11.000 was it a basically

00:41:11.660 knife you get

00:41:12.280 like if just

00:41:12.760 if you made your kids

00:41:13.460 dinner

00:41:13.700 you give them a knife

00:41:14.360 for your husband

00:41:14.740 no not a steak knife

00:41:15.600 like a little bit longer

00:41:16.700 like it would come

00:41:17.780 in your knife block

00:41:18.580 for like carving

00:41:19.320 or whatever

00:41:20.040 I don't remember that

00:41:21.640 I don't think it was

00:41:23.440 serrated

00:41:23.900 I hope it was

00:41:25.020 otherwise

00:41:25.420 serrated might be

00:41:27.420 more jagged

00:41:28.180 but I think you would

00:41:29.080 get it done pretty quicker

00:41:29.980 I don't know if we can

00:41:30.880 I mean the more we talk

00:41:31.740 God only knows how long

00:41:32.780 he was working at it

00:41:33.540 because the bed

00:41:33.980 the whole bedroom

00:41:34.720 so the kid I was

00:41:35.580 working with

00:41:35.980 thank God

00:41:36.720 he had been in the

00:41:37.440 crime scene unit

00:41:38.220 so he would go into

00:41:39.660 scenes all the time

00:41:40.560 like he put on

00:41:42.260 Tyvek suit to go in

00:41:43.540 because there's so much

00:41:44.420 blood

00:41:44.900 we go stepping through it

00:41:47.280 oh the wiener holds

00:41:48.060 a lot baby

00:41:48.700 that's the Lord's

00:41:49.860 spigot

00:41:50.300 the Lord had lots

00:41:51.820 that day

00:41:52.600 God boy

00:41:53.240 yeah definitely

00:41:54.240 God

00:41:55.500 and who was the other

00:41:56.440 kid just some honky

00:41:57.380 sitting there playing

00:41:57.940 double dragon or something

00:41:59.060 he was sitting there

00:42:00.380 he was like a grown man

00:42:01.280 with his legs crossed

00:42:02.140 like so you know

00:42:03.200 that's weird

00:42:03.580 the crisscross applesauce

00:42:04.680 yeah

00:42:05.100 he's sitting there

00:42:05.880 like trying to

00:42:06.420 we were talking like

00:42:07.340 hey do you know

00:42:08.120 what happened

00:42:08.660 he's just like

00:42:09.300 trying to look past us

00:42:10.540 like because we're

00:42:10.900 in the way of his game

00:42:11.780 to play the game

00:42:12.440 alright this guy

00:42:13.080 what game was it

00:42:14.440 do you remember it on

00:42:15.060 I don't know

00:42:15.500 I was concentrating

00:42:16.820 on other shit

00:42:17.480 wow

00:42:18.180 yeah he was literally

00:42:19.380 just trying to look

00:42:19.880 around us

00:42:20.500 I bet it was one player

00:42:21.260 they didn't have a lot

00:42:21.680 of two player games

00:42:22.220 at that time

00:42:22.860 wow

00:42:24.360 oh my god

00:42:25.120 but the worst

00:42:25.720 imagine you just

00:42:26.460 you're waiting

00:42:27.780 they wrap your wiener

00:42:29.400 they do the repackaging

00:42:30.720 and I bet at that point

00:42:31.660 it's almost like

00:42:32.080 the masked singer

00:42:32.780 you're just waiting

00:42:33.480 they take it off

00:42:34.140 and you're seeing like

00:42:35.200 okay is this

00:42:36.720 what do we have here

00:42:37.840 did this work

00:42:38.460 yeah

00:42:38.680 what's the result

00:42:39.720 yeah do we have

00:42:40.680 a Shaquille O'Neal here

00:42:41.560 or do we have

00:42:41.880 a Muggsy Bogues here

00:42:42.960 you know

00:42:43.240 I think you're just

00:42:44.100 waiting to see

00:42:44.920 what you're gonna

00:42:45.760 end up with

00:42:46.440 oh that must have

00:42:47.380 been horrible

00:42:47.900 the big reveal

00:42:48.840 you know

00:42:49.280 and they're like

00:42:49.760 move that bus

00:42:50.980 and then the bus

00:42:52.500 takes off

00:42:52.920 and your cock

00:42:54.700 doesn't work dude

00:42:55.540 that's the freaking

00:42:56.280 worst

00:42:56.780 god

00:42:57.480 I hate that

00:42:59.000 that was a day

00:43:00.140 I hate that

00:43:00.900 oh

00:43:02.900 that's harrowing

00:43:04.880 yeah

00:43:05.180 that was one

00:43:06.040 that's harrowing

00:43:07.120 and it's cold

00:43:08.220 was it so cold outside

00:43:09.220 was it hard to stand outside

00:43:10.200 was it that cold

00:43:10.940 we weren't outside

00:43:13.180 that long

00:43:13.740 once we took

00:43:15.460 the photos

00:43:16.100 and when the EMT

00:43:18.400 came down

00:43:18.920 and collected it

00:43:19.720 there wasn't else

00:43:20.960 much to do

00:43:21.520 with that scene

00:43:22.220 so then we went

00:43:23.260 up to the house

00:43:24.080 and it wasn't cold

00:43:25.180 in the air

00:43:25.480 we were outside

00:43:25.960 for maybe an hour

00:43:27.100 45 minutes

00:43:27.840 I don't even remember

00:43:28.580 because the

00:43:29.440 it wasn't like 20 below

00:43:30.880 right

00:43:31.500 but it was chilly right

00:43:32.580 yeah it was cold

00:43:33.500 but the part for me

00:43:34.940 I think that'd be

00:43:35.400 the wildest is

00:43:35.980 say you are

00:43:36.820 you know

00:43:37.800 you're so cold

00:43:38.700 you run out there

00:43:39.460 you're looking at the cock

00:43:40.340 and then it gets too cold

00:43:41.040 you had to run back

00:43:41.720 into your car

00:43:42.160 and warm up

00:43:42.580 no there was no

00:43:42.900 running back

00:43:43.360 and you're like texting

00:43:44.680 like alright let's meet

00:43:45.300 out there again

00:43:45.720 in 30 seconds

00:43:46.340 you know what I'm saying

00:43:46.920 like you're having

00:43:47.260 to battle the cold

00:43:47.920 so much

00:43:48.620 no not at that case

00:43:49.740 you're like oh yes

00:43:50.560 it's a black cock

00:43:52.720 and you have to go

00:43:53.320 sit back in your car

00:43:54.060 like that's the part

00:43:54.740 that would get you know

00:43:55.520 having to build up

00:43:56.700 just to stay warm

00:43:58.140 out there

00:43:58.620 god

00:43:59.660 that's insane

00:44:01.380 yeah it was fucking crazy

00:44:02.720 and it is

00:44:03.220 and that's the kind of shit

00:44:04.320 it's like you know

00:44:05.100 you're sitting there

00:44:06.240 and then you're watching

00:44:07.120 your kiddo blow out

00:44:07.980 some birthday candles

00:44:08.980 or something

00:44:09.620 you go from that

00:44:10.580 to something else

00:44:11.700 that was the day

00:44:12.900 yeah

00:44:13.420 we went out for drinks

00:44:14.280 after work that day

00:44:15.120 oh yeah

00:44:15.840 we're like we're going

00:44:16.620 out tonight

00:44:17.100 yeah I'm a black and tan

00:44:18.940 huh

00:44:19.320 that's what I'm saying dude

00:44:21.060 I love some Johnny Walker

00:44:22.520 yeah

00:44:23.040 there was another story

00:44:26.640 to pivot

00:44:27.340 I know that you had

00:44:28.180 mentioned whenever

00:44:29.080 our producer Nick

00:44:31.740 had reached out to you

00:44:32.900 and thank you so much

00:44:33.760 for coming

00:44:34.120 of course

00:44:34.700 I want to say thank you

00:44:35.280 so much

00:44:35.480 you look lovely today too

00:44:36.560 it's a really great outfit

00:44:37.800 who chose that

00:44:38.360 you did

00:44:38.720 I did

00:44:39.320 yeah

00:44:39.760 you did a great job

00:44:40.720 thank you

00:44:41.620 there was a story

00:44:44.240 you talked about

00:44:44.900 finding

00:44:45.260 someone had left

00:44:47.040 a child

00:44:47.980 someone

00:44:48.740 put a baby

00:44:50.880 in a trash can

00:44:51.620 and I preface this

00:44:53.020 right away by saying

00:44:53.900 the baby lived

00:44:54.560 the baby was fine

00:44:55.420 okay

00:44:55.820 but that call

00:44:58.040 came in

00:44:58.920 for patrolmen

00:45:00.300 there was like

00:45:00.900 a senior housing

00:45:01.640 on our district

00:45:02.360 and there was a gentleman

00:45:03.460 who lived there

00:45:04.040 an elderly man

00:45:04.780 and he had someone

00:45:05.500 who used to come

00:45:06.200 and clean his house

00:45:06.860 for him

00:45:07.200 and he called

00:45:08.580 911

00:45:09.040 because he said

00:45:09.780 someone just had

00:45:11.160 a baby in his house

00:45:12.640 and then left with it

00:45:14.560 in a bag

00:45:15.460 and it was crying

00:45:16.200 so

00:45:17.320 the patrolman

00:45:18.560 goes to the call

00:45:20.140 and he goes up

00:45:21.100 and talks to him

00:45:21.780 the apartment

00:45:22.260 is pristine

00:45:23.060 there's no sign

00:45:24.160 of a baby being born

00:45:25.420 he said she was

00:45:26.560 in the bathroom

00:45:27.060 he's like

00:45:27.480 it's

00:45:28.180 nothing happened

00:45:30.300 nobody had a baby

00:45:31.020 so he called

00:45:32.200 the officer called

00:45:33.700 an ambulance

00:45:34.180 for a psyche valve

00:45:35.200 saying it's this guy

00:45:36.660 the old man

00:45:37.620 something's wrong

00:45:38.440 or he maybe has dementia

00:45:39.740 just wanted to check on

00:45:40.780 and make sure he's okay

00:45:41.660 so as the ambulance

00:45:43.360 is pulling up

00:45:44.400 again I have this

00:45:45.940 on video

00:45:46.260 that's how I remember

00:45:46.800 the sequence

00:45:47.300 the ambulance

00:45:48.420 pulls up

00:45:49.100 and pulls in

00:45:49.880 there was like

00:45:50.500 a horseshoe driveway

00:45:51.540 and they pull in

00:45:52.720 the driveway

00:45:53.180 and just as they're

00:45:54.680 doing that

00:45:55.220 a girl is walking

00:45:56.200 down the street

00:45:57.000 maybe 50

00:45:58.400 60 feet away

00:45:59.460 maybe a little more

00:46:00.540 from the apartment

00:46:02.200 and it's a very busy

00:46:03.840 street in Dorchester

00:46:04.480 it's Dorchester Ave

00:46:05.720 and she's walking

00:46:06.500 on the street

00:46:06.880 and there's a

00:46:07.460 a wrought iron

00:46:09.040 trash can in the street

00:46:09.860 and she walks by

00:46:10.760 and she hears something

00:46:11.880 she thought it was like

00:46:13.240 someone put puppies

00:46:14.240 or something

00:46:15.100 in the trash

00:46:15.820 she hears something crying

00:46:16.780 she sees the ambulance

00:46:18.080 goes running over

00:46:18.920 and waves him down

00:46:19.780 and says

00:46:20.040 I think there's a baby

00:46:21.180 or something

00:46:21.880 in the trash can

00:46:23.660 wow

00:46:24.180 so the EMT

00:46:25.100 comes walking

00:46:25.700 down the street

00:46:26.060 you can tell

00:46:26.560 he thinks

00:46:27.140 she's full of shit

00:46:28.280 by the way

00:46:28.780 he's walking

00:46:29.380 there's no urgency

00:46:30.480 but everybody

00:46:31.140 in this neighborhood

00:46:31.660 is full of shit

00:46:32.260 there's no urgency

00:46:33.260 to his gate

00:46:34.780 he's just like

00:46:35.620 okay

00:46:36.240 because they get

00:46:37.100 they're inundated

00:46:38.000 with calls

00:46:38.540 they are buried

00:46:39.240 all day long

00:46:39.900 he's like

00:46:40.300 all right

00:46:40.600 we're here for this

00:46:41.320 but okay

00:46:41.760 he goes walking over

00:46:43.480 he goes in

00:46:44.900 the typical haunted

00:46:45.900 trash can

00:46:46.640 in Dorchester

00:46:47.300 he goes in

00:46:48.620 and you can see

00:46:49.720 his reaction

00:46:50.560 he picks it out

00:46:51.540 and then

00:46:52.080 it's crazy activity

00:46:53.820 he puts it on

00:46:54.600 you can see

00:46:55.300 this was all in the video

00:46:56.520 but you can't see exactly

00:46:57.800 you can see

00:46:58.420 insane movement

00:46:59.600 all of a sudden

00:47:00.400 he's on the air

00:47:01.300 and at the same time

00:47:02.560 the officer was up

00:47:03.300 in the house

00:47:03.720 said like

00:47:04.560 what's the ETA

00:47:05.320 in my ambulance

00:47:05.960 he never showed up

00:47:07.000 and at the same time

00:47:07.880 the girl had called

00:47:08.700 911 and said

00:47:09.480 there's a baby crying

00:47:10.820 in a trash can

00:47:11.640 so this is all

00:47:12.520 kind of happening

00:47:13.180 at once

00:47:13.620 so then we all

00:47:14.660 go flying up there

00:47:15.500 when they're like

00:47:15.900 yeah there's a baby

00:47:16.740 we don't have a mother

00:47:18.300 we don't know

00:47:19.180 what's going on

00:47:19.900 the woman

00:47:20.960 I spoke to the gentleman

00:47:22.540 in the house

00:47:23.000 he said

00:47:23.460 it was his cleaning woman

00:47:24.500 he had a different name

00:47:25.640 for her

00:47:25.880 that wasn't her real name

00:47:26.940 because we're trying

00:47:27.660 to track her down

00:47:28.280 like is she bleeding

00:47:28.960 out somewhere

00:47:29.600 is she hurt

00:47:30.580 does she need help

00:47:31.480 what is the story

00:47:32.800 yeah she just had a child

00:47:33.720 maybe

00:47:34.040 so he said

00:47:35.280 she was in the bathroom

00:47:36.000 for a couple hours

00:47:37.080 he thought she had

00:47:37.980 stomach problems

00:47:38.940 and then she asked him

00:47:40.300 do you have a pair of scissors

00:47:41.580 and then she asked him

00:47:43.280 for a bag

00:47:44.040 and then

00:47:45.220 because I interviewed him

00:47:46.140 me and my partner

00:47:46.780 and he walks

00:47:47.760 he said she walked

00:47:48.960 out of the bathroom

00:47:49.760 and she had like

00:47:51.140 a big tote bag

00:47:51.960 with her

00:47:52.280 like her purse

00:47:53.040 and the baby

00:47:53.980 was in the bag

00:47:54.940 and he could hear her crying

00:47:55.840 he's like

00:47:56.220 what's that

00:47:56.880 is that a baby crying

00:47:57.740 she's like

00:47:58.040 oh this is nothing

00:47:58.880 yeah

00:47:59.300 and then walked out

00:48:00.220 the door

00:48:00.640 or whatever

00:48:01.160 so

00:48:01.780 that's crazy

00:48:02.660 then on the video

00:48:03.400 you can see her

00:48:03.900 walking down the street

00:48:04.720 and there's people

00:48:05.180 coming toward her

00:48:06.060 and there's a gentleman

00:48:07.360 passing her

00:48:08.060 just as she gets

00:48:08.700 to the trash can

00:48:09.340 she waits for him

00:48:10.380 and as he goes past

00:48:11.200 she looks around

00:48:11.820 pulls it out

00:48:12.440 and goes

00:48:12.700 right in the trash can

00:48:14.460 so

00:48:15.640 turns out

00:48:16.580 she had gone in there

00:48:17.660 had the baby

00:48:18.580 she was at her 30

00:48:19.620 she wasn't a kid

00:48:20.540 and she wasn't

00:48:21.800 not mentally ill

00:48:22.820 she just

00:48:23.380 didn't plan on

00:48:24.520 keeping the baby

00:48:25.220 she had the baby

00:48:26.400 how alone

00:48:27.660 I do not know

00:48:28.460 and then cleaned the bathroom

00:48:29.700 that's why it was so pristine

00:48:31.600 when people think of women

00:48:32.980 like

00:48:33.240 that's the power

00:48:34.100 I mean women

00:48:34.620 it's just like

00:48:35.340 how she did that

00:48:36.600 I do not know

00:48:37.360 she sat in the tub

00:48:38.920 and had a baby

00:48:40.020 with no help

00:48:41.240 women are powerful man

00:48:44.380 and then to clean up

00:48:46.500 the bathroom

00:48:47.000 clean it up

00:48:47.540 but she also is a cleaning lady

00:48:49.020 I can understand

00:48:49.600 you know

00:48:49.940 that's why it was so nice

00:48:51.100 but also she I guess

00:48:52.640 has to hide her

00:48:53.300 I guess

00:48:53.580 did you determine

00:48:55.480 that she's mentally unwell

00:48:56.700 no she was fine

00:48:57.560 she just didn't want the baby

00:48:58.860 but we don't know

00:49:00.040 any of this at the time

00:49:01.080 so all we have

00:49:02.420 is a phone number

00:49:02.920 she signed in

00:49:03.720 on like the log

00:49:04.400 at the senior housing

00:49:05.360 and she put a phone number down

00:49:08.640 and one of the patrolmen

00:49:10.700 working at the scene

00:49:11.620 they blocked off the street

00:49:12.860 they were like

00:49:13.220 helicopters overhead

00:49:14.180 this was like news

00:49:15.080 it was on the news

00:49:15.860 and one of the officers

00:49:17.740 who was blocking the street

00:49:18.860 the traffic

00:49:19.380 we all get the phone number

00:49:21.080 and he starts

00:49:22.320 looking through reports

00:49:23.320 because he's sitting there

00:49:24.020 blocking the street

00:49:24.680 he starts looking through reports

00:49:26.180 because we don't have

00:49:26.840 the right name

00:49:27.400 that guy gave us

00:49:28.220 the wrong name

00:49:28.880 like the wrong age

00:49:29.640 he said she's a girl

00:49:30.580 she was in her 30s

00:49:32.100 to him she was a girl

00:49:33.080 because he's in his 80s

00:49:33.960 he's a pervert too

00:49:34.780 I'm not judging him

00:49:36.540 I don't know him

00:49:36.980 he said she's a good looking girl

00:49:38.340 so maybe you're right

00:49:39.200 the officer

00:49:40.540 the patrolman

00:49:41.840 starts looking through reports

00:49:43.100 and finds a phone number

00:49:44.360 attached to a different name

00:49:45.680 so then we start looking

00:49:47.000 we find the driver's lights

00:49:48.280 like this again

00:49:49.260 all took like over an hour

00:49:50.380 because there's a lot going on

00:49:52.040 and headquarters is calling

00:49:53.300 and everybody's like

00:49:54.100 this is huge

00:49:54.900 you know

00:49:55.280 so this kid finds

00:49:57.020 the kid's

00:49:57.880 woman's real name

00:49:58.920 and phone number

00:49:59.480 and they start

00:50:01.060 pinging the phone

00:50:01.880 so it turns out

00:50:03.340 after she put the

00:50:04.720 baby in the can

00:50:05.520 walked down the street

00:50:06.440 and got on the trolley

00:50:07.380 took the tea

00:50:08.020 back to like

00:50:09.480 to Mattapan

00:50:09.980 the train station

00:50:10.900 and then got on a train

00:50:11.780 or a bus

00:50:12.320 and went to her house

00:50:13.440 in Milton

00:50:13.760 so we knew what her address was

00:50:15.220 while she's in transit

00:50:16.880 we're following

00:50:17.500 they're following the ping

00:50:18.400 and she's like moving

00:50:19.220 through the city

00:50:19.860 and then my supervisor

00:50:21.980 and a couple of detectives

00:50:23.460 at least one

00:50:24.100 met her at the house

00:50:25.300 with an ambulance

00:50:25.980 so like this lady

00:50:26.900 we don't know

00:50:27.480 what's going on with her

00:50:28.380 so they met her

00:50:29.180 at the house

00:50:30.340 and said like

00:50:30.820 hey you gotta go to the hospital

00:50:31.940 are you okay

00:50:32.600 like what's going on

00:50:33.680 they went in the house

00:50:34.840 she like rented

00:50:35.460 a small in-law

00:50:36.220 or something in the house

00:50:37.140 they said there were

00:50:37.860 no baby items

00:50:38.760 it was full-term baby

00:50:39.860 there was no crib

00:50:41.280 there was no diapers

00:50:42.520 it was nothing

00:50:43.160 so it was

00:50:43.660 she did not plan

00:50:44.760 on keeping

00:50:45.640 this baby

00:50:46.700 she had no intentions

00:50:48.160 of doing that

00:50:48.800 obviously she didn't have

00:50:49.500 a single thing

00:50:49.960 in the house

00:50:50.400 but they took her

00:50:50.900 to the hospital

00:50:51.280 she was fine

00:50:52.620 they kept her

00:50:53.220 in the hospital

00:50:53.580 for a few days

00:50:54.220 but I mean

00:50:54.960 she literally

00:50:55.880 tied the bag

00:50:56.900 in a knot

00:50:57.320 like she tried

00:50:57.740 to kill the baby

00:50:58.540 and that girl

00:51:00.120 walking by

00:51:00.840 saved it

00:51:01.640 because it was cold

00:51:02.220 that day

00:51:02.560 she saved that

00:51:03.360 she saved that baby

00:51:04.320 that's unbelievable

00:51:06.580 it might never

00:51:07.280 have been found

00:51:07.780 like the city

00:51:08.300 comes and dumps

00:51:09.140 those trash cans

00:51:09.940 that baby's gone

00:51:10.940 the odds

00:51:11.480 that the girl

00:51:12.180 haven't been walking

00:51:12.760 by and hear it

00:51:13.640 yeah

00:51:14.540 and do they

00:51:15.620 repartner that

00:51:16.620 child and that mother

00:51:17.560 well I think

00:51:20.060 she tried to kill it

00:51:21.640 so I don't know

00:51:22.500 the homicide unit

00:51:23.640 came and took the case

00:51:24.440 why I don't know

00:51:25.040 because

00:51:25.300 you know

00:51:27.740 the baby lived

00:51:28.360 but it's obviously

00:51:29.020 a biggie

00:51:29.500 so they ended up

00:51:30.020 taking it

00:51:30.460 it took

00:51:30.900 four like four years

00:51:32.860 to go through court

00:51:33.500 it was during COVID

00:51:34.380 I remember people

00:51:34.980 wearing masks

00:51:35.520 when it was on the news

00:51:36.340 but it took like

00:51:38.660 four years

00:51:39.300 to wind its way

00:51:39.980 through court

00:51:40.480 no jail time

00:51:41.720 I'm like

00:51:42.040 that's attempted murder

00:51:42.960 she tried to kill

00:51:43.800 that baby

00:51:44.260 there's nothing

00:51:44.640 wrong with her

00:51:45.180 she wasn't scared

00:51:45.860 16 year old

00:51:46.660 you know what I mean

00:51:47.520 she was just

00:51:48.220 her defense attorney

00:51:49.580 tried to say

00:51:51.240 that it was cultural

00:51:52.080 I'm like

00:51:52.740 do people throw babies

00:51:54.320 in trash cans

00:51:55.000 in her culture

00:51:55.620 was it a black

00:51:56.640 or Asian Mexican

00:51:57.360 she was Haitian

00:51:58.840 she was from Haiti

00:51:59.660 like that's not cultural

00:52:01.920 oh shit

00:52:02.680 there she is

00:52:03.480 mother allegedly

00:52:05.740 abandoned newborn

00:52:06.860 in trash bin

00:52:07.660 in Dorchester

00:52:08.040 charged with

00:52:08.500 attempted murder

00:52:09.220 yep

00:52:09.700 that's her

00:52:10.660 she didn't serve

00:52:12.480 any time

00:52:12.980 no way

00:52:13.720 she got probation

00:52:14.440 yeah

00:52:16.260 none of we weren't

00:52:17.000 very happy with that

00:52:18.000 well yeah

00:52:18.640 because you just

00:52:19.000 like the psychology

00:52:19.860 of that person

00:52:20.440 that's out in the world

00:52:21.120 how could they value life

00:52:22.400 yeah she doesn't

00:52:23.660 at least not that life

00:52:24.760 yeah and how could

00:52:25.620 you probably value

00:52:26.220 one of the most

00:52:26.720 precious lives

00:52:27.380 unless that maybe

00:52:28.340 there was some

00:52:28.740 I wonder if it was

00:52:29.680 an extreme circumstance

00:52:31.000 of how she had that child

00:52:32.080 but

00:52:32.340 we weren't told

00:52:33.260 we were in communication

00:52:34.060 with the DA

00:52:34.840 like they never told us

00:52:36.200 other than it being cultural

00:52:37.640 we're like

00:52:38.080 what the fuck

00:52:38.660 culture is that

00:52:39.200 that's not a culture

00:52:39.860 anywhere

00:52:40.280 yeah

00:52:40.760 well the media

00:52:41.960 likes to make it easier

00:52:43.120 yeah

00:52:43.920 but I think it took so long

00:52:45.620 because court cases

00:52:46.500 were just dragging on

00:52:47.700 because you know

00:52:48.340 nobody worked

00:52:48.900 during COVID

00:52:49.400 except us

00:52:50.020 or whatever

00:52:50.420 I think

00:52:51.940 like everyone

00:52:52.600 just gets tired

00:52:53.500 of it

00:52:53.720 and wants to go away

00:52:54.740 I don't know

00:52:55.320 crazy

00:52:56.560 yeah

00:52:58.140 I mean

00:52:58.660 stuff like that's

00:52:59.540 harrowing

00:53:00.040 you know

00:53:00.380 I don't know

00:53:01.680 how you can

00:53:02.440 I don't think

00:53:03.480 there's a way

00:53:03.800 to shed that skin

00:53:05.040 if you're

00:53:05.660 a police officer

00:53:07.040 or a detective

00:53:08.160 even though

00:53:09.260 it may seem

00:53:10.100 superficial

00:53:10.940 like in some ways

00:53:11.700 you can just move on

00:53:12.360 and finish your day

00:53:13.020 there's got to be

00:53:13.740 a part of you

00:53:14.320 inside of you

00:53:14.780 that stores

00:53:15.500 a lot of that

00:53:16.240 uncomfort

00:53:17.580 and like

00:53:18.300 an illness

00:53:19.960 it's got to be

00:53:20.880 you kind of

00:53:21.620 I'd say you learn

00:53:22.700 how to deal with it

00:53:23.700 I dealt with things

00:53:24.420 better years on

00:53:25.500 my job

00:53:25.920 than I did

00:53:26.340 when I was new

00:53:27.060 you know

00:53:27.840 stuff that used to

00:53:28.680 upset me

00:53:29.160 you have to

00:53:29.700 it's your brain

00:53:30.280 safety mechanism

00:53:31.140 so you don't lose

00:53:32.000 your goddamn mind

00:53:32.880 you know

00:53:33.200 I mean

00:53:33.380 you learn how to

00:53:34.160 that's why cops laugh

00:53:35.640 at murder scenes

00:53:36.640 like it's

00:53:37.900 tension release

00:53:38.640 we're not laughing

00:53:39.360 at a murder scene

00:53:39.960 like people are trying

00:53:40.620 to talk

00:53:41.080 and say

00:53:41.480 okay

00:53:41.940 everything's normal here

00:53:43.680 you know what I mean

00:53:44.400 his brain's on the street

00:53:46.720 and you're like

00:53:47.140 so you know

00:53:47.860 what are you going

00:53:48.600 to get for lunch

00:53:49.180 like we have to do

00:53:50.440 something to distract

00:53:52.240 distract your brain

00:53:53.120 and you get better

00:53:53.720 at it

00:53:54.120 yeah that's

00:53:55.260 this officer

00:53:56.840 that we had in

00:53:57.500 who came in

00:53:58.660 was talking about

00:53:59.260 he worked in Los Angeles

00:54:00.120 and he talked about

00:54:01.020 this one story

00:54:01.440 where he had

00:54:01.820 a mother had called

00:54:03.080 her son was going

00:54:03.680 to commit suicide

00:54:04.280 she was worried

00:54:05.060 and

00:54:06.140 and he gets there

00:54:08.880 and the mother

00:54:09.560 comes out to greet him

00:54:10.680 tell him what's going on

00:54:11.700 my son's inside

00:54:12.660 while they're outside

00:54:13.840 talking

00:54:14.260 the son

00:54:15.040 kind of steps

00:54:15.640 into the doorway

00:54:16.420 behind a screen door

00:54:17.220 kind of

00:54:17.580 and takes his own life

00:54:19.120 with a shotgun

00:54:19.600 oh shit

00:54:20.400 shotgun's messy man

00:54:21.620 so then

00:54:22.760 now he's standing

00:54:23.720 out here with the mother

00:54:24.460 so he has to

00:54:25.660 console the mother

00:54:26.600 at the same time

00:54:27.640 and now go

00:54:28.360 approach this situation

00:54:29.440 right

00:54:29.700 so you

00:54:30.260 you have to do

00:54:30.960 many

00:54:31.200 like

00:54:31.460 you're like

00:54:32.160 oh shit

00:54:32.780 I just saw someone

00:54:33.600 blow their head off

00:54:34.740 with a shotgun

00:54:35.300 and the mother's

00:54:36.260 screaming it on the ground

00:54:37.180 I'm sure

00:54:37.760 but yet it's still

00:54:38.820 like

00:54:39.120 not a crime scene

00:54:40.280 but it's an active

00:54:40.960 situation

00:54:41.300 it's an active scene

00:54:42.060 you have to

00:54:42.640 lock it down

00:54:43.520 so there's a lot

00:54:44.460 there's a lot

00:54:44.980 they're chaotic

00:54:46.000 especially if you're alone

00:54:47.640 there's only one or two

00:54:48.420 and there's a lot going on

00:54:49.360 they're very chaotic

00:54:50.180 yeah

00:54:51.380 I can't even imagine

00:54:52.860 how things go

00:54:53.720 from seeming real

00:54:55.020 and normal

00:54:55.600 to absolutely surreal

00:54:57.740 like in a moment

00:54:58.980 almost like you're in a movie

00:54:59.820 or a video game

00:55:00.640 I remember he said

00:55:01.620 he walked into the

00:55:02.520 he had to push

00:55:03.300 the door wouldn't open

00:55:04.140 all the way

00:55:04.360 because the body

00:55:04.800 was right there

00:55:04.940 the body's too heavy

00:55:05.600 yeah you have to push

00:55:06.420 him out of the way

00:55:06.980 so he's pushing this

00:55:08.420 and then he steps inside

00:55:09.720 and part of the brain matter

00:55:11.340 had hit the ceiling

00:55:12.200 and it fell down

00:55:12.840 the back of his shirt

00:55:13.580 oh I think

00:55:14.180 this was a Vegas guy

00:55:15.220 this was the Vegas sergeant

00:55:16.600 I think I saw that

00:55:17.360 on your podcast

00:55:17.920 well I think Brad

00:55:18.780 he may have done

00:55:19.420 he may have been in Vegas

00:55:20.220 for a bit

00:55:20.520 he may have been in LA

00:55:21.200 I believe

00:55:21.620 but um

00:55:22.520 but he

00:55:23.140 it's gross

00:55:24.060 like I've stepped in that

00:55:25.180 like how do you

00:55:26.100 like you said

00:55:26.600 how do you

00:55:27.060 really

00:55:27.400 oh no it wasn't him

00:55:29.640 that was Chris Curtis

00:55:30.860 yeah

00:55:31.400 this other guy was Brad White

00:55:32.560 but just fascinating

00:55:34.000 fascinating story

00:55:35.260 but just here

00:55:36.140 like

00:55:36.440 I don't think

00:55:38.000 nobody else goes to work

00:55:39.220 and has this

00:55:39.940 horror movie

00:55:40.740 that can happen

00:55:41.400 once in a while

00:55:42.440 yeah

00:55:42.640 please EMTs fire

00:55:43.780 that's kind of it

00:55:44.760 yeah

00:55:45.080 yeah

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00:58:17.960 thank you

00:58:18.860 how much does the DA

00:58:22.120 you mentioned having a DA

00:58:23.360 what is that like

00:58:24.480 do police work better

00:58:26.520 under certain

00:58:27.240 mayoral

00:58:28.040 and district attorney

00:58:29.620 yes

00:58:30.140 leadership

00:58:31.580 yeah

00:58:32.260 they do

00:58:32.800 what's that whole

00:58:33.360 relationship like

00:58:34.200 like break it down

00:58:35.140 for me what that's like

00:58:36.260 well it

00:58:36.740 you know obviously

00:58:37.800 things are very

00:58:38.460 politically charged

00:58:39.300 right now

00:58:39.680 more so than

00:58:40.300 they've been in the past

00:58:41.140 I think in my experience

00:58:42.460 so it depends on

00:58:44.280 if your mayor

00:58:45.040 is supportive

00:58:45.660 or not

00:58:46.240 historically

00:58:46.960 I mean I had

00:58:47.740 several mayors

00:58:48.520 on in 31 years

00:58:49.640 as a police officer

00:58:50.760 and some are more

00:58:51.440 supportive than others

00:58:52.360 and some DA's

00:58:53.900 get elected

00:58:54.480 that are just like

00:58:56.060 oh we're not going to make

00:58:57.280 vandalism is no longer a crime

00:58:58.760 larceny is no longer a crime

00:59:00.100 shoplifting is no longer a crime

00:59:01.580 well the people in the stores

00:59:02.800 are still calling us

00:59:03.760 when someone's stealing

00:59:04.460 ten thousand dollars worth of shit

00:59:05.920 but the DA's like

00:59:07.160 not prosecuting

00:59:08.240 so now that's why

00:59:09.280 shit's locked up

00:59:09.940 in all these stores

00:59:10.700 it's the DA's

00:59:11.640 that were like

00:59:12.060 you know whether it's

00:59:13.300 the Soros DA's

00:59:14.200 or whoever the fuck they are

00:59:15.100 that got elected

00:59:15.680 that are softer on crime

00:59:16.880 or whatever

00:59:17.260 that's your job

00:59:18.240 as a district attorney

00:59:19.020 to prosecute crimes

00:59:21.200 and those are state laws

00:59:22.800 on the books

00:59:23.380 so if those laws

00:59:24.180 are still on the books

00:59:25.280 then why aren't you

00:59:26.040 prosecuting it

00:59:26.780 so that's why

00:59:27.520 shit is locked up

00:59:28.280 in CVS

00:59:28.980 because people can

00:59:30.080 indiscriminately steal

00:59:31.380 all over the country

00:59:32.600 they're not getting prosecuted

00:59:34.320 we had one guy

00:59:35.040 he was him

00:59:36.280 and his brother

00:59:36.820 doing it

00:59:37.380 they were like

00:59:38.140 two man wrecking team

00:59:39.160 every CVS

00:59:40.040 in Walmart

00:59:40.620 Walgreens

00:59:41.220 we added up

00:59:42.600 just like one kid

00:59:43.600 in one month

00:59:44.060 it was like

00:59:44.380 thirty thousand dollars

00:59:45.340 worth of shit he stole

00:59:46.240 now how is Target

00:59:47.280 or CVS recouping that

00:59:48.640 they're not

00:59:49.120 that's gone

00:59:49.940 but the DA's

00:59:50.840 doesn't care

00:59:51.640 so if you have a

00:59:53.640 like right now

00:59:54.440 there's a good DA

00:59:55.960 in Boston I think

00:59:57.400 and he's doing more

00:59:58.760 to make

01:00:01.120 you know

01:00:01.680 working with the officers

01:00:02.680 as a team

01:00:03.380 like we're on the same team here

01:00:04.680 we're just trying to prosecute

01:00:05.840 criminals

01:00:06.280 and help victims

01:00:07.340 and if

01:00:08.300 you know

01:00:09.040 the DA's

01:00:10.220 not supportive of that

01:00:11.460 like what about

01:00:12.040 all those victims

01:00:12.600 whose houses

01:00:13.120 are getting broken into

01:00:14.020 or their property's vandalized

01:00:15.640 and the DA's like

01:00:16.760 yeah we're not going to

01:00:17.460 prosecute that crime anymore

01:00:18.480 what about the people

01:00:19.600 whose shit's getting stolen

01:00:20.600 and ruined or whatever

01:00:21.820 like don't you care about them

01:00:23.160 right

01:00:23.500 and don't you care about

01:00:24.420 how they feel then

01:00:25.200 about their city

01:00:26.040 and about their country

01:00:27.060 and then you guys

01:00:28.520 are the ones

01:00:28.920 that have to deal with it

01:00:29.660 on the street level

01:00:30.340 oh everyone hates us

01:00:31.300 they take it out on you

01:00:32.240 but still

01:00:33.000 if someone hates the mayor

01:00:34.240 they take it out on the police

01:00:35.200 you know what I'm saying

01:00:35.540 it's like

01:00:35.860 and you guys

01:00:37.040 kind of can't

01:00:37.860 probably speak up on it

01:00:38.800 sometimes

01:00:39.020 because you're in a position

01:00:40.140 where you're working

01:00:41.600 under that regime

01:00:43.080 yeah

01:00:43.480 yeah I think about that

01:00:45.620 about the border too

01:00:46.440 sometimes

01:00:46.840 with like

01:00:47.280 you know

01:00:48.120 people illegally

01:00:48.880 coming across the border

01:00:49.780 and then

01:00:50.540 people can have

01:00:51.680 whatever thoughts

01:00:52.180 they want about

01:00:52.660 people coming over

01:00:53.420 right

01:00:53.580 I think everybody

01:00:54.160 needs to be

01:00:54.840 legally documented

01:00:55.820 that's here

01:00:56.260 however they figure that out

01:00:57.580 but you know

01:00:58.660 but the people

01:00:59.620 that matter

01:01:00.180 whose opinion

01:01:01.640 matters most to me

01:01:02.460 are the people

01:01:02.940 who live

01:01:03.520 what about the guy

01:01:04.500 right there

01:01:04.940 what about the border town

01:01:06.260 who's trying to put

01:01:07.000 his kids to sleep

01:01:07.740 at night

01:01:08.160 and they want to be

01:01:09.040 able to feel safe

01:01:10.000 just because they bought

01:01:11.580 a house somewhere

01:01:12.400 yeah

01:01:12.780 that there's not

01:01:14.380 people running

01:01:15.060 through their neighborhoods

01:01:15.820 whether those people

01:01:16.740 have good intentions

01:01:17.420 or bad

01:01:17.960 but just with the fear

01:01:19.160 it should happen

01:01:19.540 the fear that it puts

01:01:20.780 in their families

01:01:21.580 yes exactly

01:01:22.400 it's all quality of life stuff

01:01:23.920 it's all quality of life issues

01:01:25.220 and they don't seem

01:01:26.040 to get that

01:01:26.680 because it doesn't bother them

01:01:27.780 if they're living

01:01:28.320 in some you know

01:01:29.580 multi-million dollar house

01:01:30.740 somewhere

01:01:31.300 or a nicer part of the city

01:01:32.800 or state

01:01:33.340 it's not happening around them

01:01:34.600 like you said

01:01:35.000 the people in the border towns

01:01:36.200 they don't have a choice

01:01:37.640 yeah

01:01:38.500 especially

01:01:39.300 what about the guy

01:01:42.620 who's worked at CVS

01:01:43.580 for 20 years

01:01:44.140 and he loves it right

01:01:45.060 and he loves seeing people

01:01:46.360 come in

01:01:46.840 and he loves like

01:01:47.740 that's something

01:01:48.560 he knows some of the

01:01:49.520 older people

01:01:50.240 he's watched them

01:01:50.800 get older

01:01:51.140 and come in

01:01:51.500 and get their medicine

01:01:52.080 he's watched one of them

01:01:53.240 lose their spouse

01:01:54.000 over the years

01:01:54.540 and now they come in alone

01:01:55.540 but he's like a smile

01:01:56.940 in their life

01:01:57.600 once in a while

01:01:58.200 when they come in

01:01:58.900 and now he has to be

01:02:00.600 a deterrent to crime

01:02:02.220 yeah

01:02:02.440 they come in with trash bags

01:02:03.620 yeah

01:02:04.000 oh it's unbelievable

01:02:04.580 and literally just

01:02:05.140 clear the shop

01:02:06.140 they go and sell

01:02:07.000 all their stolen shit

01:02:08.420 at like the smaller bodegas

01:02:09.720 and convenience stores

01:02:10.780 so when they steal

01:02:11.800 all the detergent

01:02:12.640 and you know

01:02:13.860 all that

01:02:14.160 they steal

01:02:14.720 and baby formula

01:02:15.680 that's been locked up

01:02:16.400 for years

01:02:16.940 they go and sell

01:02:17.980 it someplace else

01:02:18.740 and the bodegas

01:02:19.880 is buying it off them

01:02:20.860 they know it's stolen shit

01:02:21.940 so they're a fault too

01:02:22.960 yeah

01:02:23.460 but like you said

01:02:24.680 the employee

01:02:25.320 what about him

01:02:26.320 like he doesn't want

01:02:26.980 to do that

01:02:27.340 when he goes to work

01:02:28.100 no

01:02:28.400 he's not a cop

01:02:29.680 he doesn't want to do that

01:02:30.520 he's not a cop

01:02:31.100 yeah

01:02:31.400 he doesn't want to chase people

01:02:32.540 yeah

01:02:33.120 that's the thing

01:02:33.720 they've made it so that

01:02:34.560 almost every person

01:02:35.560 has to feel like a cop

01:02:36.760 and then also

01:02:37.500 that there's not a lot

01:02:39.100 of support out there

01:02:39.920 and that's a sick thing

01:02:42.260 and our government

01:02:42.880 does that from the top down

01:02:43.900 and I believe

01:02:44.320 that there is a reason

01:02:45.460 they do that

01:02:46.000 they want to erode

01:02:48.000 a sense of community

01:02:50.780 and they want to erode

01:02:51.960 a sense of normalcy

01:02:52.980 and they're doing it

01:02:55.360 yeah

01:02:55.700 you know

01:02:56.120 who's the mayor

01:02:56.940 that they have now

01:02:57.600 over there

01:02:58.000 that's been supportive

01:02:58.760 do you feel like Cara

01:02:59.540 we haven't had a supportive mayor

01:03:01.600 that's the DA

01:03:02.300 Kevin Hayden

01:03:02.900 he's supportive

01:03:03.540 our mayor

01:03:04.300 okay hey boy

01:03:05.460 out of Newton huh

01:03:06.380 what's Newton like

01:03:07.860 is it good over there

01:03:08.700 Newton's a very

01:03:10.860 very nice city outside

01:03:12.060 it's a different city

01:03:13.880 than Boston

01:03:14.440 down in Newton over there

01:03:16.020 I definitely caught some

01:03:17.800 Newton's high end

01:03:18.720 Newton is

01:03:19.480 yeah

01:03:19.840 oh yeah

01:03:20.660 out of Newton

01:03:21.700 it's big money to live in Newton

01:03:22.700 Fig Newton they call it huh

01:03:23.980 it's big money to live there

01:03:25.200 oh god look at that

01:03:27.160 bunch of people probably

01:03:29.980 yeah he's from there

01:03:30.980 he lives in the city now

01:03:32.120 he's Suffolk County

01:03:32.920 he's not attached to the city

01:03:34.360 he's Suffolk County

01:03:35.200 but our prior DA

01:03:37.020 was atrocious

01:03:38.440 I bet every kid over there

01:03:39.740 has a signed

01:03:40.440 Tom Brady football

01:03:41.800 that's that kind of place

01:03:43.160 well he lived in Chestnut Hill

01:03:44.080 which is part of

01:03:45.060 Brookline and Newton

01:03:45.800 it's like all sandwiched

01:03:46.920 right in that neighborhood there

01:03:47.900 he lived in Chestnut Hill

01:03:49.040 yeah I bet all those kids

01:03:50.140 have that dude

01:03:51.000 yeah how has the DA support

01:03:53.960 been over the years

01:03:54.500 so this is a district

01:03:55.280 turning now

01:03:55.940 yeah he's good

01:03:56.780 was he during your term

01:03:58.680 he was there

01:03:59.940 when I retired

01:04:00.880 yeah

01:04:01.220 he was appointed by

01:04:02.340 Charlie Baker

01:04:02.760 preceded by Rachel Rollins

01:04:04.360 yeah thumbs down on her

01:04:05.820 oh she was another

01:04:07.460 district attorney

01:04:08.800 yeah

01:04:09.420 and now

01:04:10.340 so she

01:04:11.440 she became a US attorney

01:04:12.820 under Biden

01:04:13.740 and then she was

01:04:14.680 I believe fired

01:04:16.500 from US attorney

01:04:18.220 with some ethics violation

01:04:19.520 or some such

01:04:20.500 oh Biden would hire

01:04:22.180 anybody who's asleep

01:04:23.060 you fucking dude

01:04:24.960 he was fucking

01:04:26.160 he would hire

01:04:27.100 Fred Flintstone

01:04:28.380 to fucking sing him

01:04:29.280 to bed at night

01:04:29.820 thought she was a good fit

01:04:31.600 oh I'm sorry

01:04:32.500 she resigned before

01:04:33.480 she was canned

01:04:35.020 Rachel Rollins

01:04:35.560 was not formally fired

01:04:36.380 but resigned from position

01:04:37.300 in May 2023

01:04:37.920 following multiple

01:04:38.560 ethics investigations

01:04:39.520 and yeah

01:04:41.480 and I don't know

01:04:41.880 exactly what happened here

01:04:42.580 but what

01:04:43.080 what's it like

01:04:43.820 from one DA to it

01:04:44.540 like how can a DA affect

01:04:45.220 well she's the one

01:04:45.660 that decided

01:04:46.120 we weren't gonna prosecute

01:04:47.620 larcenies

01:04:48.400 shoplifting

01:04:49.340 vandalism

01:04:50.600 the minor crimes

01:04:51.800 and she used to say

01:04:53.060 those aren't

01:04:53.600 right

01:04:53.880 those aren't

01:04:54.440 I forget what

01:04:54.980 what verbiage was used

01:04:56.520 it was like

01:04:57.000 they're not

01:04:57.440 like not victimless crime

01:05:00.000 but they're trying to say that

01:05:01.160 no they're not

01:05:02.160 even if it's CVS

01:05:03.440 or Target

01:05:04.000 a big corporation

01:05:04.720 they're still losing

01:05:05.620 millions of dollars

01:05:06.560 it's totally victim

01:05:06.900 it was her

01:05:07.420 she was one of the ones

01:05:09.280 that was not supportive

01:05:10.820 and do you think

01:05:12.120 it's a DA

01:05:12.600 in that space

01:05:13.220 do you think

01:05:13.580 she's making her own choices

01:05:14.720 or do you think

01:05:15.240 that's coming down

01:05:15.880 from a higher

01:05:16.500 do you

01:05:17.380 allegedly

01:05:18.260 do you think

01:05:18.660 it's coming down

01:05:19.060 because it just seems crazy

01:05:20.320 to say we're not

01:05:21.180 gonna prosecute crime

01:05:22.260 how do you do that

01:05:22.860 it's fucking

01:05:23.440 it's a state law

01:05:24.520 how do you decide

01:05:25.860 what you're

01:05:26.300 during her campaign

01:05:27.660 Rollins pledged

01:05:28.700 to decriminalize

01:05:29.500 certain offenses

01:05:29.960 such as shoplifting

01:05:30.820 drug possession

01:05:31.760 yeah

01:05:32.180 wanton

01:05:32.980 oh wanton

01:05:34.800 or malicious

01:05:35.700 wanton malicious

01:05:36.360 yeah

01:05:36.740 or property

01:05:37.580 drug possession

01:05:38.200 intended to distribute

01:05:39.220 what

01:05:39.920 yeah

01:05:40.920 it's crazy

01:05:41.400 that's why

01:05:42.080 masks and cast

01:05:42.700 you've heard of

01:05:43.040 the part of boston

01:05:43.660 i don't know if you've

01:05:44.140 heard of the part of boston

01:05:44.620 called masks and cast

01:05:45.460 it is a disaster

01:05:46.560 down there

01:05:47.000 there's drug addicts

01:05:48.400 everywhere

01:05:48.860 they're all over the streets

01:05:50.180 they're destroying property

01:05:51.240 there's needles

01:05:51.860 all over the city

01:05:52.980 in south end

01:05:53.840 in that area

01:05:54.400 it's kind of

01:05:54.860 it was

01:05:55.360 it was focused there

01:05:56.900 and now they've tried

01:05:57.840 to kind of break it up

01:05:58.880 the last few years

01:05:59.620 because it was insane

01:06:00.600 and

01:06:01.700 now they've pushed it out

01:06:03.840 yeah there was

01:06:04.280 10 cities down there

01:06:05.400 look at this shit

01:06:06.360 yeah

01:06:06.960 and look

01:06:07.640 and some people say

01:06:08.340 this is just a bill

01:06:09.120 they have safe

01:06:09.800 shoot up zones there

01:06:10.880 they're letting them

01:06:11.480 shoot up heroin

01:06:12.780 in safe places

01:06:14.600 oh yeah

01:06:15.000 so now the needles

01:06:15.760 are all over the south end

01:06:16.860 and the poor people

01:06:17.480 in the south end

01:06:17.980 they pay a lot of money

01:06:18.980 to live there

01:06:19.640 these are beautiful brownstones

01:06:21.640 and now there's people

01:06:22.520 shitting in their front yards

01:06:24.220 throwing needles everywhere

01:06:26.400 breaking

01:06:26.720 say one guy was breaking

01:06:28.080 into the house

01:06:28.480 while people

01:06:28.860 it was under construction

01:06:29.680 the second floor

01:06:30.240 this was just a few weeks ago

01:06:31.320 and there's a guy's family

01:06:33.600 is there with his kids

01:06:34.440 and they had like

01:06:35.280 an old key or something

01:06:36.300 and they were breaking in

01:06:37.240 and going to like

01:06:37.880 shit in the floor

01:06:39.180 on the second floor

01:06:40.040 that was under construction

01:06:40.980 and he went up

01:06:41.540 and there's like

01:06:42.020 a pile of human shit

01:06:43.460 in his house

01:06:44.360 he's like

01:06:44.600 what is going on

01:06:45.320 they put up cameras

01:06:46.480 the guy was going in

01:06:47.180 and out every night

01:06:47.740 to like sleep on the floor

01:06:48.740 in his house

01:06:49.200 under construction

01:06:49.840 and shit on the floor

01:06:51.780 it's like the emoji

01:06:52.580 or whatever

01:06:52.980 yeah like

01:06:53.500 what is wrong with you

01:06:54.620 what

01:06:55.120 so that part of the city

01:06:57.120 I feel bad for people

01:06:58.020 who live down there

01:06:59.080 that's Atkinson Street

01:07:00.660 yeah

01:07:00.940 where is it

01:07:01.780 it's Atkinson Street

01:07:02.680 it's near the jail

01:07:03.320 yeah

01:07:03.740 well and look

01:07:04.300 and a lot of people say

01:07:05.060 this is just a bill's

01:07:05.980 tailgate or something

01:07:06.700 over here

01:07:07.040 I'm not saying that

01:07:08.300 some people say

01:07:09.000 this is a pinto tailgate

01:07:10.120 I'm not saying that

01:07:11.320 what we're saying

01:07:12.100 is that

01:07:12.720 this is a lot of

01:07:14.040 drug use

01:07:14.920 that's happening

01:07:16.420 over there

01:07:17.440 in this town

01:07:19.120 in Boston

01:07:19.580 yeah

01:07:19.920 but here's another thing though

01:07:21.320 they have this everywhere now

01:07:23.120 oh it's everywhere

01:07:24.100 every city has this

01:07:25.220 every democratically run city

01:07:26.980 I think

01:07:27.440 yeah

01:07:27.660 it could be run

01:07:28.240 well we don't have one here

01:07:29.940 I know that

01:07:30.560 I hope not anyway

01:07:31.460 I don't know

01:07:31.980 Austin got ruined

01:07:32.860 Austin was a blast

01:07:34.360 and I took my daughter

01:07:35.660 there several years

01:07:36.240 I'd been there

01:07:36.740 10 years ago

01:07:37.540 and I was like

01:07:37.840 this is the coolest place

01:07:39.040 reminds me of here

01:07:40.060 a little bit

01:07:40.620 like 6S

01:07:41.760 6 Street

01:07:42.160 where all the bars used to be

01:07:43.200 and then I went back

01:07:43.960 a few years later

01:07:44.760 because my daughter's

01:07:45.460 way into music

01:07:46.140 I wanted to take her

01:07:47.020 and she was afraid

01:07:48.480 to get out of the car

01:07:49.180 which is

01:07:49.580 there were homeless people

01:07:50.680 sleeping in hammocks

01:07:51.560 strung from street signs

01:07:52.900 in the street

01:07:53.420 and it was just rampant

01:07:54.660 before they

01:07:55.160 like if you're homeless

01:07:56.060 you got arrested there

01:07:56.940 yeah

01:07:57.240 which isn't the best thing

01:07:58.240 but you got to do something

01:07:59.380 they're like throwing bricks

01:08:00.720 through all the windows

01:08:01.460 that have been there

01:08:02.000 a long time

01:08:02.560 Austin got ruined

01:08:03.440 Seattle's a shithole

01:08:05.340 Portland

01:08:05.840 yeah

01:08:06.520 Portland is

01:08:07.240 I don't have to sneeze

01:08:08.200 but Portland is a shithole

01:08:10.320 but also it's awesome

01:08:11.640 I will say this

01:08:12.400 yeah I was up there

01:08:13.380 when I do landscape photography

01:08:14.920 as a hobby

01:08:15.380 or used to

01:08:15.860 and I went up to Oregon

01:08:17.140 and Washington

01:08:19.120 and it's the coolest place

01:08:21.180 like it's such a cool vibe

01:08:22.540 you know

01:08:22.840 but yeah I do think

01:08:23.660 that element that's out there

01:08:25.440 it's like why are we

01:08:26.780 it's like

01:08:27.560 I don't know their end game

01:08:29.020 like what is the point

01:08:29.800 of ruining all these cities

01:08:30.940 I think they want it to just

01:08:32.380 they want us to deteriorate

01:08:34.360 they want us to have

01:08:35.300 no sense of purpose

01:08:36.200 right

01:08:36.560 they want us to like

01:08:37.560 not have any pride

01:08:38.460 in the places where we are

01:08:39.560 because they've been so riddled

01:08:41.740 they get people

01:08:42.500 you know

01:08:43.220 the opioid epidemic

01:08:45.100 was put on America

01:08:46.280 and was allowed to occur

01:08:47.620 right

01:08:48.020 it wasn't like that

01:08:49.620 when I was young

01:08:50.140 no

01:08:50.520 they want this to happen

01:08:51.920 it is a

01:08:52.520 there is

01:08:53.200 it's no doubt to me

01:08:54.440 that this is an organized agenda

01:08:56.500 yeah I don't get it

01:08:57.480 but I believe that people

01:08:58.840 can fight back

01:08:59.480 and I believe that

01:09:00.340 I think it started a little bit

01:09:01.740 I think so

01:09:02.400 and I hope so

01:09:03.040 and also it gives you

01:09:03.920 a sense of purpose

01:09:04.580 in the world

01:09:05.040 it's like

01:09:05.400 you're here to defeat evil

01:09:06.760 you know

01:09:07.180 and we all can be a part of that

01:09:09.560 and I think it's something

01:09:10.320 that makes us feel that way

01:09:11.940 let's pivot a little

01:09:13.300 you ended up in the

01:09:15.860 oh quick question

01:09:16.580 did you ever see

01:09:17.600 Irish Mickey Ward

01:09:18.500 did you ever run across him

01:09:19.460 when you were running around

01:09:20.160 over there

01:09:21.000 did you ever hear about him

01:09:21.800 or anything

01:09:22.000 oh yeah he's a boxer

01:09:22.780 yeah

01:09:23.260 yeah I never ran across him

01:09:24.820 that's cool

01:09:25.680 yeah

01:09:26.040 yeah I was just watching

01:09:27.020 The Fighter the other day

01:09:28.140 and uh

01:09:29.360 that's about him right

01:09:30.200 about him yeah

01:09:30.720 wasn't he in it

01:09:31.480 didn't he play as the coach

01:09:32.680 or some shit

01:09:33.220 or something

01:09:34.060 no

01:09:34.440 I thought they gave him a part

01:09:35.860 he was in it at the end

01:09:36.940 okay

01:09:37.380 Christian Bale

01:09:39.260 Mark Wahlberg

01:09:40.360 that's when he got all skinny for it

01:09:41.680 yeah

01:09:41.880 such a great movie

01:09:43.020 but and all the sisters and stuff

01:09:45.240 they did such a great job

01:09:46.260 in that film

01:09:46.840 I got to go to watch

01:09:48.540 Lanie Wilson last night

01:09:49.660 oh that's right

01:09:50.340 the concert

01:09:50.780 how was it

01:09:51.200 I should have got y'all tickets

01:09:52.800 I didn't even know we're here

01:09:53.660 oh no goodness

01:09:54.680 that's okay

01:09:55.220 uh

01:09:55.820 it was so great

01:09:56.800 it was so great

01:09:58.200 Jelly Roll

01:09:58.920 uh

01:09:59.820 was there

01:10:00.360 so I got to see him

01:10:01.940 Ella Langley

01:10:02.680 I got to meet her

01:10:03.480 uh

01:10:04.180 she has a beautiful voice

01:10:05.500 um

01:10:06.620 it was just great

01:10:07.960 it was like a special time

01:10:09.620 nice

01:10:10.020 yeah

01:10:10.340 and Lanie's just a boss

01:10:11.880 she's just turned into like a

01:10:14.080 some people start to step into

01:10:16.360 whatever gift

01:10:17.180 they were given in the world

01:10:18.220 and some people kind of

01:10:19.760 uh

01:10:20.180 meander around the outside of it

01:10:21.680 I think

01:10:22.060 and

01:10:22.960 and no way is

01:10:25.140 is like a Vic

01:10:26.040 is better than the other really

01:10:27.300 I think it's all

01:10:27.900 by person

01:10:29.240 but she has just really

01:10:30.620 embraced this role

01:10:31.820 of just being like this

01:10:32.980 on stage presence

01:10:34.040 yeah

01:10:34.360 it was really powerful to watch

01:10:36.320 she does a great job

01:10:37.180 um

01:10:38.000 pivoting

01:10:39.420 anyway

01:10:39.760 that's uh

01:10:40.620 you ended up in

01:10:42.760 the human trafficking unit

01:10:44.280 yeah

01:10:44.880 so I was

01:10:45.340 is that the safe term

01:10:45.840 or how does that work

01:10:46.480 yeah that's

01:10:46.780 so I was in

01:10:47.580 a district detective

01:10:48.360 at Dorchester

01:10:48.920 and then I went

01:10:49.800 for several years

01:10:50.740 like five years or so

01:10:51.820 to the human trafficking unit

01:10:52.940 and then I went back

01:10:54.020 to Dorchester

01:10:54.680 but yes

01:10:55.120 I had a five year stint

01:10:56.360 to the human trafficking unit

01:10:57.200 as a detective

01:10:57.820 so

01:10:58.720 what

01:10:59.580 what is your definition

01:11:00.340 of human trafficking

01:11:01.140 let's just get that clear

01:11:02.040 because you hear so much

01:11:03.120 right

01:11:03.260 like

01:11:03.460 a few years ago

01:11:04.240 you would hear this social kickball

01:11:05.620 that was big

01:11:06.200 this was big four years ago

01:11:07.240 and everybody notices

01:11:07.900 it's gone now

01:11:08.640 right

01:11:08.920 notice how the kickballs fly

01:11:10.700 yeah

01:11:10.920 it's like oh

01:11:11.560 that's the big thing

01:11:12.340 everybody's commenting on it online

01:11:13.880 and now it's gone

01:11:14.880 right

01:11:15.120 it's really out of the zeitgeist

01:11:16.560 I know it's still

01:11:17.380 there's still things happening

01:11:18.760 but notice how that happens

01:11:20.620 right

01:11:20.880 and everybody's like

01:11:21.840 you'd see memes online

01:11:23.100 it's like tonight

01:11:23.700 while you sleep

01:11:24.400 one and a half million children

01:11:26.460 will be

01:11:26.920 taken on trains

01:11:28.660 across America

01:11:29.440 being human trafficked

01:11:30.300 and you're like

01:11:30.740 what in the shit dude

01:11:32.240 so

01:11:32.800 what did you really see

01:11:34.300 what were you expecting

01:11:35.220 when you got into that space

01:11:36.440 so I didn't know

01:11:37.240 like everybody else

01:11:38.220 I didn't really know

01:11:39.020 what that meant

01:11:39.600 I just you know

01:11:40.280 I knew

01:11:40.700 someone asked me

01:11:41.860 if I wanted to join the unit

01:11:43.300 and you know

01:11:44.140 I didn't know a lot about it

01:11:45.460 I thought it was just like

01:11:46.200 the movies

01:11:46.560 like you know

01:11:46.980 people being snatched

01:11:47.860 off the street

01:11:48.500 and forced into

01:11:49.540 to be prostitutes

01:11:51.520 in my experience

01:11:53.360 at least when I did it

01:11:54.360 that was not the case

01:11:55.460 so I guess human trafficking

01:11:58.040 is like when someone's

01:11:59.000 trafficked for the purpose

01:11:59.960 of to sell sex

01:12:01.060 right against their will

01:12:02.260 through you know

01:12:03.240 coercion

01:12:04.300 or force

01:12:05.200 or threats

01:12:05.820 or whatever

01:12:06.200 but when I got there

01:12:08.960 a lot of the cases

01:12:10.280 we had

01:12:10.920 it's funny

01:12:11.660 there were just

01:12:12.240 several pimps

01:12:13.640 that kind of ran

01:12:14.460 in the city

01:12:14.980 that were involved

01:12:15.880 you always came back

01:12:16.760 to the same

01:12:17.240 like six or seven guys

01:12:18.360 who always had

01:12:19.100 all these different

01:12:19.620 women working for them

01:12:20.500 and it was always girls

01:12:22.260 not always

01:12:23.180 I shouldn't say that

01:12:23.900 mostly it was girls

01:12:25.220 from the neighborhood

01:12:26.460 or just outside the city

01:12:27.940 like the suburbs

01:12:28.720 or whatever

01:12:29.120 and something in their life

01:12:30.620 like was fucked up

01:12:31.800 whether it was

01:12:32.520 you know

01:12:33.160 a parent situation

01:12:34.080 where they had one parent

01:12:35.140 or they'd been like

01:12:35.820 sexually abused

01:12:36.520 as kids themselves

01:12:37.240 or there was like

01:12:38.640 a DCF

01:12:39.220 which is Department of

01:12:40.060 Children and Families

01:12:40.760 like there were foster kids

01:12:41.960 it was always

01:12:42.540 kind of something

01:12:43.360 missing

01:12:43.880 it could just be

01:12:44.480 they weren't getting

01:12:45.080 attention at home

01:12:46.040 or they weren't happy

01:12:46.940 and the pimps

01:12:48.420 a lot of them

01:12:48.960 could be very charming

01:12:49.920 and they would meet

01:12:51.100 these girls

01:12:51.620 they'd just meet them

01:12:52.640 in the street

01:12:53.040 go to the train station

01:12:53.980 they hang at the T

01:12:54.980 at the T

01:12:56.320 in Boston

01:12:57.000 or I had one girl

01:12:58.340 it was a guy

01:12:58.780 I started talking

01:12:59.520 to when she was

01:13:00.560 walking down the street

01:13:01.400 and like

01:13:02.460 oh you're pretty

01:13:02.980 you want to be

01:13:03.360 in a music video

01:13:04.060 and she's like

01:13:04.800 she's like a teenage girl

01:13:05.820 yeah that'd be cool

01:13:06.740 and she went

01:13:07.240 and like they shot the video

01:13:08.300 and then like say

01:13:09.720 like we have to finish

01:13:10.480 the video

01:13:10.880 and then they like

01:13:11.840 make her go to another state

01:13:13.160 and like

01:13:13.680 oh we're gonna take pictures

01:13:14.860 of you

01:13:15.060 and put you online

01:13:15.840 and you're gonna

01:13:17.940 you know

01:13:19.240 have sex with these guys

01:13:20.160 for money

01:13:20.520 they don't get any of the money

01:13:21.440 the pimps get all the money

01:13:22.440 so that was a situation

01:13:25.180 where it was kind of

01:13:26.160 she was not willing

01:13:28.000 like that was kind of

01:13:28.960 a quick one

01:13:29.480 like over a week or two

01:13:30.320 but a lot of them

01:13:30.940 they groom the girls

01:13:31.660 for a long time

01:13:32.400 oh you don't have any money

01:13:33.780 I'll give you some money

01:13:34.440 I'll take you to get

01:13:35.060 your nails done honey

01:13:35.940 I had one guy

01:13:36.840 I literally had text messages

01:13:38.520 for like a month's worth

01:13:39.680 and you could see him grooming her

01:13:41.160 she worked in a store

01:13:42.940 I think her dad

01:13:44.120 her mother was

01:13:44.980 who was deceased

01:13:45.680 and her dad now wanted

01:13:46.740 to be a woman

01:13:47.360 and it was like

01:13:47.960 fucking with her head

01:13:48.780 and he like changed his name

01:13:49.840 to Susan or something

01:13:50.860 and she met this guy

01:13:52.320 working in a store

01:13:53.180 and he was like

01:13:54.420 he's like

01:13:55.140 oh you're working today honey

01:13:56.120 I'll bring you a tuna sandwich

01:13:57.300 and I don't want you hungry

01:13:58.820 and it was

01:13:59.220 you could see

01:13:59.640 it was like

01:14:00.100 you know

01:14:00.800 this progression of a relationship

01:14:02.880 and like a month later

01:14:04.140 she was like

01:14:05.220 oh that's my boyfriend

01:14:06.080 a lot of them think

01:14:06.580 this pimp's their boyfriend

01:14:07.920 and like a month later

01:14:09.780 you could see the messages

01:14:10.620 he's like

01:14:11.040 all right

01:14:11.280 we have seven guys coming in

01:14:12.840 and you know

01:14:14.740 you're going to do

01:14:15.720 all seven of them

01:14:16.540 at a party

01:14:17.060 there's like a bachelor party

01:14:18.180 or some shit

01:14:18.780 and then she's like

01:14:19.760 can I keep you know

01:14:20.620 a hundred bucks

01:14:21.220 for the piggy bank

01:14:22.020 and he's like

01:14:22.540 no it's all mine

01:14:23.480 it was like a thousand dollars

01:14:24.580 so it's like

01:14:25.760 they see something

01:14:26.800 missing in their lives

01:14:27.780 and they just manipulate them

01:14:29.200 or they're like

01:14:29.700 they're a little messed up

01:14:30.480 to begin with

01:14:31.240 they're like

01:14:31.520 they're in a bad situation

01:14:32.560 they don't know how

01:14:33.120 to get out of it

01:14:33.840 they think these guys

01:14:34.880 are boyfriend

01:14:35.280 you'll do this

01:14:35.800 if you love me

01:14:36.400 kind of shit

01:14:37.040 so that was a lot

01:14:38.300 of the sex trafficking

01:14:38.840 that you saw huh

01:14:39.580 yeah that's what

01:14:40.280 that was in my experience

01:14:41.380 yes there wasn't

01:14:42.280 a lot of people

01:14:43.140 being snatched off the street

01:14:44.320 like no one's being

01:14:45.100 shipped in

01:14:45.660 in a shipping container

01:14:46.800 from Russia

01:14:47.360 and all these girls

01:14:48.680 getting you know

01:14:49.360 the nail salon

01:14:49.980 the spas

01:14:51.560 are a little bit different

01:14:52.240 the Asian women

01:14:53.000 they were moving them around

01:14:54.700 yeah

01:14:55.940 they had a lot of those

01:14:56.560 the massage salons

01:14:57.480 yeah

01:14:57.880 but those were tough

01:14:59.620 because the second

01:15:00.320 we try to like

01:15:01.240 go in and

01:15:02.640 they move

01:15:03.200 they're gone

01:15:04.000 they're gone

01:15:04.280 they're gone to New York

01:15:04.740 yeah

01:15:05.260 New Jersey

01:15:05.740 different women

01:15:06.640 they're gone

01:15:07.260 they don't know their names

01:15:08.180 there's like

01:15:09.040 how many different dialects

01:15:10.340 can't pronounce the name

01:15:11.220 Chinese

01:15:11.720 and you're trying to get

01:15:12.940 our Chinese officers

01:15:13.700 hey can you translate this

01:15:15.040 and they're like

01:15:15.500 it's a different dialect

01:15:16.420 like it was a disaster

01:15:17.360 so

01:15:17.900 those were tough

01:15:19.280 yeah you don't even know

01:15:20.000 you're like

01:15:20.500 we're looking for

01:15:20.980 so we did those

01:15:23.960 yeah that's crazy

01:15:24.600 that kind of shit's wild

01:15:25.500 and I don't like

01:15:26.140 those kind of places

01:15:26.860 I'll say that

01:15:27.460 I'll walk into one of those

01:15:28.560 salons or whatever

01:15:29.340 I say if anybody jerks

01:15:31.220 me off

01:15:31.840 I'm jerking them off

01:15:33.620 that's what I tell them

01:15:34.860 no homo

01:15:35.480 I'm just saying

01:15:36.280 but I'm

01:15:36.880 you know what I'm saying

01:15:37.360 I'll put the pressure

01:15:37.960 on everybody in the building

01:15:39.080 just so everyone knows

01:15:39.800 what you're going into

01:15:40.360 don't even jerk me off

01:15:41.340 if somebody tries to even

01:15:42.260 sneak up on me

01:15:43.020 and jerk me off

01:15:43.860 some of these girls

01:15:44.400 would sleep in there

01:15:45.180 they would sleep on the beds

01:15:46.480 at night when it closed

01:15:47.240 yeah they'd sleep

01:15:47.260 and then they wake up

01:15:48.020 and jerk you off

01:15:48.700 that's the problem

01:15:49.420 but one of them had

01:15:50.160 we went in one

01:15:50.680 there was sink

01:15:51.180 there were baby turtles

01:15:52.180 in the sink

01:15:52.740 filled with water

01:15:53.340 swimming around

01:15:53.940 I'm like what the

01:15:54.620 the fuck is that

01:15:55.480 they like the animalia in there

01:15:56.480 they love aqua animals

01:15:57.760 I don't know what the hell

01:15:59.720 they were doing

01:16:00.160 I don't know what they were

01:16:01.240 doing with those things

01:16:02.080 we're like what the fuck

01:16:03.740 I don't know

01:16:04.980 you know

01:16:05.660 and we also did

01:16:06.640 party human trafficking

01:16:07.760 and we did

01:16:08.320 what we call john stings

01:16:09.840 we target the sex buyer

01:16:11.400 rather than

01:16:12.000 that's kind of a

01:16:12.880 it was a European model

01:16:14.020 that they found to be

01:16:14.920 more effective

01:16:15.420 rather than

01:16:16.540 you know cops used to

01:16:17.320 arrest the prostitute

01:16:18.340 well what about the guy

01:16:19.320 paying for it

01:16:20.320 of course yeah

01:16:20.940 so then you target

01:16:22.320 that angle of it

01:16:23.860 like we're going to tell you

01:16:24.580 if you don't have buyers

01:16:25.760 then no one's going to be

01:16:27.180 selling it

01:16:27.660 to try to do it

01:16:28.500 kind of backwards that way

01:16:29.620 so we would do

01:16:30.240 what we call john stings

01:16:31.420 and we'd put

01:16:32.120 ads online

01:16:33.160 back page doesn't exist anymore

01:16:34.660 but we'd put them on that

01:16:35.780 it was craigslist first

01:16:37.200 and then it was back page

01:16:38.360 I don't know how they're doing it now

01:16:39.340 whether it's on

01:16:40.060 insta

01:16:41.360 or you know

01:16:42.280 tiktok

01:16:43.240 I don't know where the hell

01:16:43.860 they're doing it now

01:16:44.240 I've been out of the unit

01:16:44.940 for about six years now

01:16:46.080 you'd have parties

01:16:46.980 and people would find people

01:16:48.020 on back page

01:16:48.540 and invite them over

01:16:49.300 you know

01:16:49.620 and like

01:16:49.880 they would hire strippers

01:16:51.880 and stuff like that

01:16:52.560 to come and dance

01:16:53.320 or hang out

01:16:53.740 so it was definitely a place

01:16:55.000 where people were kind of

01:16:56.120 eliciting illegal

01:16:57.220 oh yeah

01:16:57.640 that was there

01:16:58.320 when you put an ad in

01:16:59.800 you could pay extra

01:17:00.620 to bump it at the top

01:17:01.640 so it was so prevalent

01:17:02.740 when we were doing it

01:17:03.580 like we'd put an ad

01:17:04.460 in the morning

01:17:04.880 say I put my ad on

01:17:05.920 like three or four of us

01:17:07.900 in the office

01:17:08.340 would do fake ads

01:17:09.240 and you'd have to do

01:17:09.820 like real photos

01:17:10.560 because the guys

01:17:11.140 who were doing it

01:17:11.700 all the time

01:17:12.460 like we'll do reverse

01:17:13.660 Google image search

01:17:14.580 to find out

01:17:15.140 did this picture appear

01:17:16.020 someplace else

01:17:16.600 so they know

01:17:16.920 if it's a fake photo

01:17:17.840 because then maybe

01:17:18.580 you're a cop

01:17:19.060 or you're not going to look

01:17:19.780 like who you're

01:17:20.680 pretending you look like

01:17:21.820 so we'd all put our ads up

01:17:23.840 and then you know

01:17:25.060 you put on at 8

01:17:25.880 at 8.30

01:17:26.500 your phone's ringing

01:17:27.300 it's crazy

01:17:28.240 8.30 in the morning

01:17:29.260 they're already starting to call

01:17:30.500 and we'd set up our dates

01:17:31.500 for the day

01:17:31.940 like we'd have a hotel room

01:17:33.140 and we'd be waiting

01:17:34.540 in the hotel room

01:17:35.220 and we'd have dates set up

01:17:36.200 every half an hour

01:17:36.940 to show up

01:17:37.560 and would y'all hide

01:17:38.140 under the bed

01:17:38.640 no no it's hiding

01:17:39.660 under the bed

01:17:39.980 I would have to open the door

01:17:41.160 and there'd be like guys

01:17:43.000 like in the bathroom

01:17:43.940 officers in the bathroom

01:17:44.880 behind the wall

01:17:45.620 so my trick was

01:17:46.640 I was at like 45

01:17:48.480 46 when I was doing it

01:17:49.680 and my ad

01:17:50.160 I'm supposed to be 34

01:17:51.120 I didn't fucking look 34

01:17:52.680 but I'd open the door

01:17:53.680 I'd have like my hair

01:17:54.420 oh you would be the girl

01:17:55.740 oh I was a prostitute

01:17:56.600 yeah

01:17:56.980 what

01:17:57.560 yeah

01:17:58.020 so I'd have to talk

01:17:59.600 to them on the phone

01:18:00.260 what were y'all

01:18:00.640 understaffed or something

01:18:01.840 they just shouldn't have you

01:18:02.720 also the detective

01:18:03.420 well no you have to have

01:18:04.600 you're the one

01:18:05.220 you're the one

01:18:05.600 establishing probable cause

01:18:07.040 so it

01:18:07.940 if someone else

01:18:09.580 is doing it

01:18:10.240 and then you have to

01:18:11.180 like go testify in court

01:18:12.300 well you're not the one

01:18:13.060 that had the interaction

01:18:13.840 with them

01:18:14.320 so what we do

01:18:15.300 we put our ad

01:18:16.060 online

01:18:16.940 you'd put your photos

01:18:18.040 and some stupid saying

01:18:19.300 like you know

01:18:20.200 what you're offering

01:18:20.900 and how much it costs

01:18:21.720 and of course

01:18:22.620 it's acronyms

01:18:23.260 for everything

01:18:23.840 that's what I didn't know

01:18:24.680 anything about this

01:18:25.620 before I started

01:18:26.180 about GFE

01:18:26.780 which is girlfriend experience

01:18:28.080 means he'll kiss you

01:18:29.080 full service

01:18:31.380 means like sex

01:18:32.340 and a blow job

01:18:33.140 and then there's like

01:18:34.140 Russian and Greek

01:18:35.180 and there's all these

01:18:35.660 stupid acronyms

01:18:36.460 for everything else

01:18:37.280 and they thought

01:18:39.520 they were being clever

01:18:40.380 by saying

01:18:41.080 oh I want GFE

01:18:42.600 so they're not asking

01:18:43.660 for sex

01:18:44.360 oh I see

01:18:45.200 so by them saying

01:18:46.140 I want GFE

01:18:46.980 or I want Russian

01:18:48.140 or I want this

01:18:49.440 they think they're being clever

01:18:50.640 except you can say

01:18:51.480 like well based on my

01:18:52.240 training experience

01:18:52.920 I know Russian means

01:18:53.940 titty job

01:18:54.560 like or whatever

01:18:55.280 and then so

01:18:56.400 you taught

01:18:57.020 they call you on the phone

01:18:58.060 titty job

01:18:58.860 yeah that's a Russian

01:18:59.700 by the way

01:19:00.080 I didn't know that

01:19:00.720 I'll take it

01:19:01.360 I mean whatever

01:19:02.360 you know what I mean

01:19:03.180 it is

01:19:03.520 I'm sorry

01:19:04.140 yeah

01:19:04.540 it's okay

01:19:05.180 so you'd

01:19:06.020 you'd basically

01:19:06.840 talk to them on the phone

01:19:07.760 they'd call you

01:19:08.540 and some of them

01:19:09.040 were real nervous

01:19:09.640 obviously

01:19:10.100 you could tell

01:19:10.620 the long timers

01:19:11.380 they got right to business

01:19:12.380 and some of them

01:19:12.880 want to flirt

01:19:13.380 with you on the phone

01:19:14.260 or whatever

01:19:14.600 can you send pictures

01:19:15.460 of your eyes

01:19:16.040 or your feet

01:19:16.520 the foot fetish guys

01:19:17.740 are out there

01:19:18.180 big time

01:19:18.700 but

01:19:19.420 and then you're like

01:19:20.200 the more you do it

01:19:21.400 I'm like

01:19:21.620 I don't have time

01:19:22.040 for this shit

01:19:22.500 like

01:19:22.940 do you want to come

01:19:23.740 you were showing up

01:19:24.340 or not

01:19:24.620 so you'd basically

01:19:25.340 make the arrangement

01:19:26.200 so once they showed up

01:19:27.320 you already have

01:19:27.800 probable cause

01:19:28.380 they already agreed

01:19:29.480 to pay you

01:19:30.160 for sex

01:19:30.820 before they ever

01:19:31.440 showed up

01:19:31.920 so then by them

01:19:33.000 showing up

01:19:33.540 at the hotel

01:19:34.100 they're like

01:19:34.520 basically completing

01:19:35.460 the entire

01:19:36.660 the elements

01:19:38.660 of the crime

01:19:39.260 they showed up

01:19:40.220 they already agreed

01:19:40.960 to pay you

01:19:41.480 for such and such

01:19:42.240 so then you can arrest them

01:19:43.220 right when they get there

01:19:44.040 really

01:19:44.260 yeah

01:19:44.580 but like

01:19:45.440 depending where we do it

01:19:46.400 if we did it

01:19:46.900 like nights

01:19:47.400 or downtown parts

01:19:48.320 of the high-end hotels

01:19:49.120 would let us use their rooms

01:19:50.200 oh yeah

01:19:50.760 high-end would have to do

01:19:51.580 anything in there

01:19:52.320 every time we did it

01:19:53.300 we got a doctor

01:19:54.000 every fucking time

01:19:56.380 the Brigham Hospital

01:19:57.460 one of the best hospitals

01:19:58.440 in the world

01:19:58.880 allegedly

01:19:59.360 the Beth Israel

01:20:00.560 one guy showed up

01:20:01.500 in scrubs

01:20:02.140 with like Beth Israel

01:20:03.800 hospital on it

01:20:04.640 yeah

01:20:05.160 like what the fuck

01:20:06.300 you on lunch break

01:20:07.040 it was crazy

01:20:08.200 we got a doctor

01:20:09.000 every time

01:20:09.480 why you think

01:20:10.080 I don't know

01:20:11.100 too busy

01:20:11.660 too busy to get a girlfriend

01:20:12.900 I don't know

01:20:14.660 I don't know

01:20:16.100 are there

01:20:17.880 yeah

01:20:18.180 I wonder what that is

01:20:19.180 it's just interesting

01:20:19.780 I don't know

01:20:19.960 it was

01:20:20.240 we always got

01:20:21.140 and when we did it

01:20:22.220 in like the

01:20:22.740 not so nice parts of town

01:20:24.800 then we'd get like

01:20:25.640 you know

01:20:25.920 the cable guys

01:20:26.900 and the plasterers

01:20:28.360 and for some reason

01:20:29.220 I always felt bad for them

01:20:30.240 they didn't have any money

01:20:30.900 but it's the same crime

01:20:32.340 so I shouldn't have felt bad for them

01:20:33.660 they were just

01:20:34.660 you know

01:20:35.100 but I did

01:20:35.940 the rich guys

01:20:36.700 because they got very arrogant

01:20:37.840 when you tried to arrest them

01:20:39.860 they were all arrogant

01:20:40.880 we had

01:20:41.200 one guy

01:20:42.200 who's a Northeastern University

01:20:43.340 professor

01:20:44.220 and he was on the phone with me

01:20:46.480 saying I'm a professor

01:20:47.420 and he was trying to

01:20:48.740 talk me down on my prices

01:20:50.080 I don't make a lot of money

01:20:51.340 oh yeah

01:20:51.420 that's what I would do

01:20:52.140 I would text him

01:20:52.840 look how about this

01:20:53.940 $70

01:20:54.460 some lady's coming over

01:20:56.040 for $70

01:20:56.920 I'm like Jesus

01:20:57.720 and now I'm like

01:20:58.680 I was just

01:20:59.540 like

01:21:00.080 I would

01:21:00.940 he was bargaining with me

01:21:02.640 I don't make a lot of money

01:21:03.860 meanwhile

01:21:04.140 I made more money than me

01:21:05.260 yeah

01:21:05.640 but he

01:21:05.980 I always laugh

01:21:07.020 he wanted me

01:21:07.520 he's like

01:21:07.820 will you put me in yoga positions

01:21:09.240 that's what he wanted

01:21:10.240 he's fucking freaks

01:21:10.960 I'm like yeah

01:21:11.320 I got my lulus on

01:21:12.280 come on over

01:21:12.920 like you just

01:21:13.620 he wanted to be in yoga positions

01:21:15.540 me to put them in them

01:21:16.780 and then aggressive kissing

01:21:18.080 and when you get some weird requests

01:21:19.960 or anything like that

01:21:20.680 yeah

01:21:20.920 like look anything pretty wild

01:21:23.360 like were they

01:21:23.860 any like people

01:21:24.520 you'd enjoy them

01:21:25.400 and their wife

01:21:25.940 like join something like that

01:21:26.860 no

01:21:27.100 nothing

01:21:27.740 we never got those

01:21:28.800 we got a lot

01:21:29.560 almost everybody was married

01:21:30.900 one of them we did

01:21:31.780 we met him in a bar

01:21:33.040 he said it was the end of the night

01:21:34.020 he was too nervous

01:21:34.720 to come to a hotel

01:21:35.380 he said he'd never done this before

01:21:36.520 or whatever

01:21:36.860 so we agreed to meet him

01:21:38.340 downstairs

01:21:38.820 the hotel had a bar downstairs

01:21:40.260 and I was just sitting there

01:21:41.520 and now again

01:21:42.580 I'm supposed to be 34

01:21:43.780 and even 10 years ago

01:21:44.820 I didn't look 34

01:21:45.780 I think you look great

01:21:46.620 I don't fucking look 34

01:21:48.000 but thank you

01:21:48.740 but so I'm sitting at the bar waiting

01:21:50.860 and the signal is for like me

01:21:52.120 to touch my hair

01:21:53.000 and there's two cops

01:21:53.620 down the end of the bar

01:21:54.480 and he comes in

01:21:55.960 I see him walk past

01:21:57.020 he comes in

01:21:57.540 and the bar is crowded

01:21:58.380 I see this guy walk in

01:21:59.460 I said that's him

01:22:00.080 I knew it was him

01:22:00.880 you could tell like his face was

01:22:02.300 he wasn't like

01:22:03.180 hey I just got to a bar

01:22:04.460 and he's all chilled

01:22:05.140 he was like intense

01:22:06.560 scared

01:22:06.920 and he walked right past me

01:22:08.180 and went to the men's room

01:22:09.000 and looked at him

01:22:09.420 like that's him

01:22:10.060 he's got his fucking Burberry scarf on

01:22:12.020 and his you know

01:22:12.600 $400 jacket

01:22:13.700 yeah

01:22:14.320 and he came over

01:22:15.040 and approached me

01:22:15.880 a librarian son

01:22:17.040 he tapped me

01:22:17.660 and said oh my name

01:22:19.160 or whatever

01:22:19.540 and then when they came up

01:22:21.640 to arrest him

01:22:22.440 he fainted

01:22:23.320 we had so many guys faint

01:22:25.060 or like clacks on the bed

01:22:26.680 he went

01:22:27.420 his face

01:22:28.000 he was white as a ghost

01:22:29.180 and he just went down

01:22:30.200 so the officers like

01:22:31.020 drag him out to the vestibule

01:22:32.240 of the bar

01:22:32.600 we're like

01:22:32.860 we got to call this guy

01:22:33.580 in the ambulance

01:22:33.960 but he snapped to it

01:22:34.900 and he's crying and shit

01:22:36.240 and he's like

01:22:36.600 he's like 30 years old

01:22:38.240 and like dude

01:22:39.160 he's like

01:22:39.660 I'm so anxious all the time

01:22:41.660 I'm trying to get my wife pregnant

01:22:43.420 and I was like

01:22:44.220 you think you're going to get her pregnant

01:22:45.580 by fucking a prostitute

01:22:47.220 like what is wrong with you

01:22:48.580 I mean it's worth a shot

01:22:49.640 you know what I'm saying

01:22:50.660 I'm not saying that

01:22:51.720 but I'm just saying

01:22:52.440 you go fuck a stranger

01:22:54.220 and they none of them

01:22:55.280 nobody wants to use a condom

01:22:56.420 that was bareback

01:22:57.100 that was another code

01:22:57.860 oh they were doing barebacks

01:22:58.940 yeah that was a code

01:22:59.760 BBBJ

01:23:00.540 bareback

01:23:01.100 bareback

01:23:01.660 blood drop

01:23:02.180 so they didn't want to

01:23:04.660 oh there you go

01:23:05.540 here you go

01:23:06.340 bareback

01:23:06.780 sex without condom

01:23:07.920 BBBJ

01:23:09.180 and they'll ask you

01:23:09.620 how much extra

01:23:10.340 like how much will you charge me

01:23:11.980 for a bareback

01:23:12.960 so none of them wanted to use a condom

01:23:14.420 so they're all going home

01:23:15.260 to their families

01:23:16.000 after fucking some rando

01:23:17.760 who's having sex

01:23:18.900 with five people that day

01:23:20.000 yeah

01:23:20.320 like how many

01:23:20.980 not to mention

01:23:21.620 what township is it in

01:23:22.680 just Boston

01:23:23.760 yeah

01:23:24.180 oh yeah

01:23:24.460 so this guy's bringing

01:23:25.220 oh I'm trying to get my wife pregnant

01:23:26.620 what are you bringing home

01:23:28.180 hmm

01:23:28.900 yeah

01:23:29.900 bottom bitch

01:23:31.480 that's the pimp's main girl

01:23:33.500 she's the one who runs it for him

01:23:34.800 really

01:23:34.960 I see that in the terminology

01:23:36.040 yeah

01:23:36.460 let's see some more terms here

01:23:38.640 the in call

01:23:39.800 the escorts

01:23:40.200 that's only B

01:23:40.840 see

01:23:41.260 they go on forever

01:23:42.420 huh

01:23:43.300 yeah

01:23:44.900 and were people ever asked

01:23:46.420 so I'm trying to think of anything

01:23:47.520 were people ever asking for like

01:23:48.940 golden showers

01:23:49.680 urination type of things

01:23:50.900 I never had

01:23:51.640 I never got asked for those

01:23:53.100 one thing they asked me for

01:23:54.040 the guy's like

01:23:54.500 will you do a handy

01:23:56.000 and I was like

01:23:56.780 is that a quick hand job

01:23:58.080 like I had no idea

01:23:58.940 what the fuck it was

01:23:59.700 and my partner at the time

01:24:00.720 is like googling

01:24:01.760 on the urban dictionary

01:24:02.640 like what's that

01:24:03.640 it was some crazy thing

01:24:04.660 about choking

01:24:05.340 and she's on top

01:24:06.980 and then you flip

01:24:07.740 and he's on

01:24:08.460 I was like

01:24:08.780 how the fuck

01:24:09.420 do they come up

01:24:09.920 with these names

01:24:10.500 like what does that even mean

01:24:11.520 that's all that

01:24:11.900 Cirque du Soleil shit

01:24:13.060 people are doing now

01:24:13.920 it's crazy

01:24:13.940 like how is that a handy

01:24:15.160 because I was like

01:24:16.080 is that a

01:24:16.520 like what is that

01:24:17.260 that's all that

01:24:17.760 welterweight stuff

01:24:18.660 I think

01:24:19.020 I don't know what it is

01:24:20.180 what about

01:24:20.820 was there a lot of stuff

01:24:21.580 like people want you to touch

01:24:22.500 the hole in their butt

01:24:23.640 or anything

01:24:23.920 like any weird stuff

01:24:24.840 no they never got that

01:24:25.780 specific on the phone

01:24:26.800 but they would ask for anal

01:24:27.840 that was Greek

01:24:28.440 they were like

01:24:28.840 one of them

01:24:29.660 they're clever way

01:24:30.540 they're like

01:24:30.860 ooh do you speak any languages

01:24:32.060 so then I'm supposed to say

01:24:33.940 yeah I speak Greek and Russian

01:24:35.320 that's what I mean

01:24:35.760 they think they're clever

01:24:36.560 they have all these weird

01:24:37.560 online forums

01:24:38.440 where they talk about

01:24:39.500 the prostitutes

01:24:41.080 they rate them

01:24:42.220 I forget what the page

01:24:43.300 they used to rate them on

01:24:44.460 so that's why we had to

01:24:45.280 change up our photos

01:24:46.120 and use real stuff

01:24:47.060 because these guys

01:24:48.020 all talk to each other

01:24:49.000 the long

01:24:49.620 the guys that do it all the time

01:24:50.820 not the one timers

01:24:51.860 the lifers

01:24:52.480 yes or dabblers

01:24:53.840 like yourself

01:24:54.500 dabblers yeah

01:24:55.460 in and out

01:24:57.540 in and out

01:24:58.320 in and out

01:24:58.720 yeah they talk to each other

01:24:59.780 and rate the girls

01:25:00.680 it's crazy

01:25:01.480 it's a crazy life

01:25:02.500 and when would a night like that

01:25:04.060 for you guys end

01:25:04.920 like was there a certain point

01:25:05.940 where you guys

01:25:06.300 yeah we kind of call it

01:25:07.500 so like the calls would start

01:25:08.620 coming in the morning

01:25:09.260 and we'd like

01:25:09.740 we'd have you know

01:25:10.480 hire overtime to transport

01:25:11.840 because they'd be showing up

01:25:12.860 sometimes they'd show up

01:25:13.520 at the same time

01:25:14.240 like oh shit

01:25:14.840 they're coming to the same room

01:25:15.840 so we'd try to stagger the dates

01:25:17.320 dates

01:25:18.720 and we'd have them schedule

01:25:19.980 the area hour

01:25:20.680 every half hour

01:25:21.340 whatever

01:25:21.580 and after like

01:25:22.740 8 or 10 hours

01:25:23.420 the boss would call it

01:25:24.360 we always did a Super Bowl weekend

01:25:25.940 it was

01:25:26.340 Cook County

01:25:28.540 in Illinois

01:25:30.040 did a big

01:25:31.060 funding thing for it

01:25:32.440 they got money from the feds

01:25:33.440 and they all kind of agreed to do it

01:25:34.620 so at certain times of year

01:25:35.620 Super Bowls

01:25:36.620 were always when we did it

01:25:37.720 so we'd call it a night

01:25:38.900 after like

01:25:39.320 after we arrested

01:25:40.320 like 12

01:25:40.820 14 people

01:25:41.600 or whatever

01:25:41.960 she'd be like

01:25:42.480 alright that's enough

01:25:43.120 stop answering the phones

01:25:44.220 so on most Super Bowl weekends

01:25:47.040 you guys are doing that

01:25:47.840 we were

01:25:48.240 when we were in the

01:25:48.620 human trafficking unit

01:25:49.300 yeah

01:25:49.540 but we got one guy

01:25:51.340 he was

01:25:51.620 I was talking to him

01:25:52.720 on the phone

01:25:53.220 I'm like

01:25:53.560 this guy is so

01:25:54.720 fucking old

01:25:55.640 now I'm laughing

01:25:56.240 I was very shy about it

01:25:57.360 when I first started doing that

01:25:58.180 but I don't know who

01:25:58.680 the hell

01:25:59.440 I'm not a prostitute

01:26:00.520 I don't talk to these people

01:26:01.500 so I'd be all anxious

01:26:02.740 like hiding in the bathroom

01:26:04.040 so there's just 8 cops

01:26:05.260 and I don't want them

01:26:06.080 listening to me

01:26:06.720 like yeah

01:26:07.140 you can stick in my ass

01:26:08.100 for an extra 50

01:26:08.780 like I was embarrassed

01:26:09.640 and then I got more comfortable

01:26:11.400 and they would just be laughing

01:26:12.320 like I'd just be like

01:26:13.300 yeah this is what you want

01:26:14.220 okay and everybody's laughing

01:26:15.480 one guy

01:26:16.160 yeah come on my forearms

01:26:17.360 or whatever

01:26:17.780 for 30 bucks

01:26:18.720 sounded so old

01:26:20.100 and he's like

01:26:20.520 you gotta you know

01:26:21.260 yeah I'm an older gentleman

01:26:23.160 and I remember saying

01:26:24.000 that's alright

01:26:24.320 I'll take it easy on ya

01:26:25.480 and then he shows up

01:26:26.720 he's like

01:26:27.320 shorter than me

01:26:28.220 turns out he's like

01:26:29.340 multi-millionaire

01:26:30.440 philanthropist

01:26:31.180 from Beacon Hill

01:26:31.980 on the boards of like

01:26:33.480 Children's Hospital

01:26:34.260 and all this crazy

01:26:35.180 he laughed

01:26:35.760 he burst out laughing

01:26:36.680 when he got arrested

01:26:37.240 he was a tiny little guy

01:26:38.240 with glasses

01:26:38.620 he laughed

01:26:39.300 everyone else shits himself

01:26:40.540 or gets angry

01:26:41.260 but he laughed

01:26:42.760 he's the only one

01:26:43.280 he didn't give a shit

01:26:44.220 he's like

01:26:44.740 yeah I'll pay the fine

01:26:45.460 I don't care

01:26:46.620 just get my phone back

01:26:47.820 we take all their phones

01:26:49.060 and I remember

01:26:49.680 I was doing a detail

01:26:50.540 at Fenway Park

01:26:51.440 and he was in contact

01:26:52.880 he's like

01:26:53.300 I paid my fine

01:26:54.000 can I get my phone back

01:26:54.860 because we take their phones

01:26:55.620 as evidence

01:26:56.060 we have to show their

01:26:56.820 text messages or whatever

01:26:57.880 and if they plead

01:26:59.540 pay the fine

01:27:00.540 or plead out

01:27:00.980 they get their property back

01:27:01.980 because the case is done

01:27:03.600 but if they're fighting it

01:27:05.020 then we keep the evidence

01:27:06.140 because we have to

01:27:06.900 you know

01:27:07.200 do a search warrant

01:27:07.900 on the phone

01:27:08.340 and all this stuff

01:27:09.020 he's like

01:27:09.600 yeah I paid my fine

01:27:10.460 he literally

01:27:11.240 he showed up at the red

01:27:12.180 I'm like

01:27:12.580 I'm working in detail

01:27:13.460 like you can come

01:27:14.140 and get it

01:27:14.660 so I was in uniform

01:27:15.880 that day

01:27:16.260 because normally

01:27:16.580 I'm not in uniform

01:27:17.200 and he showed up

01:27:18.760 and he's laughing

01:27:19.400 in the car

01:27:19.860 I'm like

01:27:20.120 here's your phone

01:27:20.620 I'm like

01:27:20.840 what's the matter

01:27:21.300 with you

01:27:21.600 like why don't

01:27:22.620 you got

01:27:22.980 we got money

01:27:23.620 go get a girlfriend

01:27:24.260 he's like

01:27:24.640 ah

01:27:25.120 it's not worth the trouble

01:27:26.240 I was like

01:27:26.600 alright

01:27:26.820 have a good day

01:27:27.980 he did not give a shit

01:27:29.880 wow

01:27:30.300 yeah

01:27:30.680 gosh dude

01:27:33.040 did you

01:27:35.920 did you ever

01:27:36.640 just like

01:27:37.420 accidentally

01:27:37.980 just hook up

01:27:38.780 with one of them

01:27:39.260 like did that ever

01:27:39.940 happen

01:27:40.600 no

01:27:41.140 no

01:27:41.920 that didn't happen

01:27:43.080 like did one ever

01:27:43.900 show up and you're like

01:27:44.480 oh this guy's kind of cute

01:27:45.360 I wish it wasn't like this

01:27:46.500 no I never thought

01:27:47.540 I wish it wasn't like this

01:27:48.560 but yeah

01:27:49.120 some of them weren't

01:27:50.000 you know

01:27:50.360 that's what we say

01:27:50.940 some of them are good looking

01:27:51.940 you're like

01:27:52.260 what's go get it

01:27:53.060 what's wrong with you

01:27:53.880 like you're good looking

01:27:54.800 we used to say

01:27:55.320 like you're a good looking dude

01:27:56.540 you can get a girlfriend

01:27:57.440 some of them are like

01:27:58.220 fucking grotesque

01:27:59.180 like you can see

01:27:59.700 why they're paying for it

01:28:00.760 like I said the doctors

01:28:01.920 don't have time

01:28:02.620 maybe I don't know

01:28:03.380 they don't want the commitment

01:28:04.240 but some of them

01:28:04.820 would be good looking dudes

01:28:05.600 like what's wrong with you

01:28:07.340 I think for some guys

01:28:08.660 they have a

01:28:09.740 their sexual experience

01:28:11.160 especially if it starts off

01:28:11.780 with pornography

01:28:12.280 a lot of times

01:28:12.800 is really skewed

01:28:13.440 well that's an issue

01:28:14.060 now they don't know

01:28:14.780 what's real life

01:28:15.500 you know

01:28:15.940 but then it's safe

01:28:17.380 like you know

01:28:18.140 if it starts off

01:28:18.800 with pornography

01:28:19.160 it's very skewed

01:28:19.920 right

01:28:20.120 because this is

01:28:20.740 an environment

01:28:21.960 that's kind of like

01:28:22.760 you can get exactly

01:28:25.040 what you want

01:28:25.500 out of pornography

01:28:25.940 you can just put the terms

01:28:26.900 in you get what you want

01:28:27.820 and that's your intimacy

01:28:30.500 so that's how you build it

01:28:31.640 right

01:28:31.880 so then

01:28:32.740 it almost makes

01:28:34.140 it doesn't

01:28:34.900 it's not right

01:28:35.820 doesn't make anything right

01:28:36.860 or anything like that

01:28:37.600 and some people

01:28:38.320 you know

01:28:39.820 like prostitution

01:28:40.500 is one of the oldest

01:28:41.240 businesses in the universe

01:28:42.980 right

01:28:43.240 it's always been there

01:28:44.040 but some people

01:28:46.600 they

01:28:46.960 the next

01:28:48.540 the closest way

01:28:49.520 they can get somebody

01:28:49.960 is almost just

01:28:50.420 trying to create

01:28:51.220 the same thing

01:28:51.740 but in real life

01:28:52.480 right

01:28:52.680 so like

01:28:53.000 I need to create

01:28:53.680 the same thing

01:28:54.140 where it's like

01:28:54.420 I can kind of get

01:28:55.080 what I would like

01:28:55.880 yeah

01:28:56.160 these are my google terms

01:28:58.100 these are the things

01:28:58.600 that I like

01:28:59.120 and I'm going to pay for that

01:29:00.320 they don't want to waste time

01:29:01.200 maybe

01:29:01.460 I don't know

01:29:01.920 oh I think some people

01:29:02.600 for sure

01:29:03.040 it's time

01:29:03.500 it's like

01:29:03.760 I don't want to

01:29:04.240 have a big relationship

01:29:05.260 I just want to have some sex

01:29:06.260 I don't want to take someone

01:29:06.620 out to dinner

01:29:07.140 every you know

01:29:07.880 twice a week

01:29:08.500 and spend hundreds

01:29:09.200 and there's a lot of that

01:29:09.940 that goes on

01:29:10.360 and I don't look down

01:29:11.220 upon any of it

01:29:12.000 I just think

01:29:12.620 it's interesting that

01:29:13.820 you know

01:29:14.540 but yeah

01:29:15.200 the laws are the laws

01:29:15.980 and that's just what

01:29:17.120 your experience was like

01:29:17.840 yeah

01:29:18.120 so what I learned

01:29:19.060 like I

01:29:19.440 you know

01:29:19.840 it's like

01:29:20.220 hey if a girl wants to do it

01:29:21.640 but in reality

01:29:23.200 I think 99% of the time

01:29:24.680 they're not making a dime

01:29:25.680 so they're doing it all

01:29:27.020 and the pimp's taking all the money

01:29:28.060 so that's why I was like

01:29:28.980 well that sucks

01:29:29.640 I had like one girl

01:29:31.260 who was like

01:29:31.900 no there's not much I make

01:29:33.340 and she does

01:29:33.800 what's something called

01:29:34.360 sissy play

01:29:34.920 and I was like

01:29:35.400 what's

01:29:35.700 guys who like

01:29:36.600 not want to get hurt

01:29:38.180 but close to

01:29:39.120 not like sadomasochism

01:29:40.780 or whatever

01:29:41.180 but

01:29:41.940 she made a lot of money

01:29:44.040 she's like

01:29:44.640 I make you know

01:29:45.140 $500 an hour

01:29:46.160 or whatever

01:29:46.660 and I was like

01:29:47.460 shit

01:29:48.060 you know

01:29:48.720 I mean my partner

01:29:49.260 would be like

01:29:49.600 we need a new job

01:29:50.540 when we retire

01:29:51.400 like what the hell

01:29:52.460 but she kept her own money

01:29:54.460 but literally out of everyone else

01:29:56.120 I ever met

01:29:56.640 they didn't

01:29:57.160 they didn't keep it

01:29:57.960 they had to hand it over

01:29:58.840 so guys think

01:29:59.740 when we try to do it

01:30:00.900 it's like an education thing

01:30:02.100 we tell the guys

01:30:02.880 when we wrestle

01:30:03.840 I'm like

01:30:04.120 we're not doing this to her

01:30:05.040 because they're always like

01:30:05.680 don't tell my wife

01:30:06.560 like everyone would panic

01:30:07.880 for sure

01:30:08.520 say look

01:30:08.840 it's kind of what's supposed to

01:30:10.360 at the time

01:30:10.820 like an education thing

01:30:11.840 we're trying to make you aware

01:30:12.760 these girls

01:30:13.300 you think

01:30:13.700 you're doing something

01:30:15.100 you're paying for the service

01:30:16.560 they're giving you the service

01:30:17.480 and everyone leaves happy

01:30:18.560 but the girls weren't getting the money

01:30:19.980 they were getting the shit

01:30:20.700 kicked out of them

01:30:21.280 half the time

01:30:21.780 that's heartbreaking

01:30:22.480 so

01:30:23.160 oh yeah

01:30:25.640 happy stuff

01:30:26.480 I hated telling people

01:30:27.780 I worked there

01:30:28.300 because it was like

01:30:28.760 a conversation killer

01:30:29.820 like you'd see people's shoulders

01:30:31.160 just droop

01:30:31.820 you're like

01:30:32.340 oh you work at the NPR

01:30:33.140 they're like

01:30:33.760 oh

01:30:34.160 so you know

01:30:35.600 nothing good there

01:30:36.760 nothing good happening there

01:30:38.240 well it's just interesting

01:30:39.560 how perverse

01:30:40.320 like sexuality can get

01:30:41.640 and the things that cause it

01:30:42.700 in our world

01:30:43.220 you know

01:30:43.560 it's another thing

01:30:44.340 why they even allow

01:30:45.200 pornography to exist

01:30:46.320 like

01:30:46.620 I don't know if we need it

01:30:48.400 like as readily available

01:30:49.860 as it is

01:30:50.960 we had a woman come on

01:30:51.940 named Lila McElwaite

01:30:53.140 and she was telling us

01:30:54.580 that a lot of the pornography

01:30:55.500 you see online

01:30:56.140 it's non-consensual

01:30:58.640 right

01:30:59.000 and so a lot of times

01:31:00.400 you could have somebody

01:31:01.000 basically masturbating

01:31:02.380 or watching

01:31:03.360 and enjoying

01:31:05.100 a crime

01:31:06.740 and they don't even know it

01:31:07.560 so just the whole circle

01:31:08.960 of it all

01:31:09.280 is kind of depraved

01:31:09.600 yeah it's the same thing

01:31:10.480 but then I have friends

01:31:12.180 that do sex work

01:31:13.780 and they work for themselves

01:31:15.320 and they're masterful at it

01:31:17.140 fair enough

01:31:18.040 if they're working for themselves

01:31:19.520 and they want to do that

01:31:20.720 and they're making the money

01:31:21.520 that is victimless

01:31:23.740 yeah

01:31:24.180 and I think

01:31:24.980 and people may have issues

01:31:26.100 with people on both sides

01:31:27.200 of the transaction

01:31:27.900 probably have some issues

01:31:29.220 and may or may not

01:31:31.020 it could be different

01:31:31.740 but

01:31:32.100 but

01:31:33.460 anyway

01:31:34.020 yeah that would just be

01:31:36.340 but yeah

01:31:37.000 some people are into weird stuff

01:31:37.840 I had a buddy

01:31:38.360 he would hire a woman

01:31:39.280 just to tickle him

01:31:40.060 until he shit himself

01:31:41.020 oh

01:31:41.480 fuck

01:31:41.980 this is some weird shit out there

01:31:43.560 there's a lot of fetishes man

01:31:45.040 that's what I found out

01:31:45.720 but I started putting my feet

01:31:46.860 in the photos

01:31:47.520 because I was like

01:31:48.080 I gotta get the foot fetish guy

01:31:49.340 yeah yeah

01:31:49.780 because people want some

01:31:50.860 like the guy wanted me

01:31:51.680 to put him in yoga positions

01:31:53.000 how does that do it for you

01:31:54.680 yeah

01:31:55.040 it's bizarre

01:31:55.960 like you said

01:31:56.440 the guy wanted to tickle

01:31:57.340 until he got to shit

01:31:58.300 yeah

01:31:58.980 that's a really specific wish

01:32:00.640 oh if you tickle me

01:32:01.880 like how do you get there

01:32:02.560 yeah

01:32:03.000 how do you get there

01:32:03.900 and like were you tickled as a kid

01:32:05.320 and were like

01:32:05.940 oh no I'm gonna shit myself

01:32:07.320 and then as an adult

01:32:08.100 that's what does it for you

01:32:09.320 probably I don't know

01:32:10.340 where you watch a funny movie

01:32:11.460 and then you have to pee

01:32:12.260 like maybe

01:32:12.700 I don't know

01:32:13.100 I don't know how you start

01:32:13.900 I don't know how you get there

01:32:15.220 but yeah

01:32:15.660 if somebody tickled me

01:32:16.340 and all that shit

01:32:16.780 I would be upset

01:32:17.400 right

01:32:18.160 I think overall

01:32:19.480 I think most would

01:32:21.140 did you ever feel like

01:32:21.940 you had to be like a protector

01:32:23.100 for these women

01:32:23.600 or did a lot of them

01:32:24.200 feel like they just

01:32:24.680 they were in their own space

01:32:25.900 and that's what they wanted

01:32:26.720 and it's not something

01:32:27.420 you can really help with

01:32:28.280 like a lot of the women

01:32:28.900 it was a lot of the case

01:32:29.740 it was a lot of

01:32:30.660 I feel like you're just

01:32:31.700 banging your head off the wall

01:32:32.560 going nowhere

01:32:33.080 you help somebody

01:32:34.460 you get them

01:32:34.820 you get them away from somebody

01:32:36.060 you get them into

01:32:36.660 it's like a safe home

01:32:37.640 like there was a woman

01:32:39.080 who ran a non-profit

01:32:40.020 a place to put these people

01:32:41.260 get them some clothes

01:32:42.300 like a lot of them

01:32:43.160 they'd steal their shoes

01:32:44.380 and their IDs

01:32:45.040 and their phones

01:32:45.740 or whatever

01:32:46.100 so they couldn't run away

01:32:47.220 so you find them

01:32:48.460 a place to stay

01:32:49.300 and you know

01:32:50.000 get them target gift cards

01:32:51.360 they can go buy

01:32:51.940 like a toothbrush

01:32:52.580 and some soap

01:32:53.580 and then like

01:32:54.100 in the middle of the night

01:32:54.580 they jump out the fucking window

01:32:55.700 so like you do

01:32:56.980 you're like

01:32:57.500 getting called out of your house

01:32:58.660 at 10 o'clock at night

01:32:59.300 to go help somebody

01:33:00.080 and then they're like

01:33:01.140 oh well she's gone

01:33:02.180 and so many of them

01:33:03.440 ended that way

01:33:03.980 or they just disappeared

01:33:04.680 they wouldn't testify against them

01:33:05.960 so the cases went nowhere

01:33:06.960 so it was a little frustrating

01:33:08.340 yeah I think it's people

01:33:09.820 you can't help people

01:33:10.620 until they are ready

01:33:11.320 for some help

01:33:12.020 no

01:33:12.060 exactly

01:33:12.500 what about any

01:33:14.560 was there any gay

01:33:15.300 was there any gay pimps

01:33:17.060 out there

01:33:17.420 was that kind of thing

01:33:18.400 I don't know

01:33:18.600 or did a guy ever lie

01:33:19.660 and say like

01:33:20.080 when you busted him

01:33:20.920 like say you set him up

01:33:22.360 with a female prostitute

01:33:23.300 and he just like

01:33:24.580 he was like

01:33:25.020 I'm gay

01:33:26.000 I'm just joking

01:33:26.660 you know

01:33:27.060 happy Halloween

01:33:27.860 or whatever

01:33:28.380 no

01:33:28.820 they never tried that

01:33:30.180 I mean the jig's up

01:33:31.100 as soon as they show up

01:33:32.160 god

01:33:32.600 most of them knew it

01:33:33.800 they like fall on the bed

01:33:35.440 a couple of them cry

01:33:36.780 like really

01:33:37.720 yeah

01:33:39.500 but no

01:33:40.840 none of them

01:33:41.280 no one ever tried

01:33:42.000 to show the gay card

01:33:43.400 and be like

01:33:43.800 it wasn't me

01:33:44.440 I'm just here for fun

01:33:46.200 yeah

01:33:46.600 I'm just

01:33:47.040 I was just joking

01:33:47.680 just fucking with you

01:33:48.360 yeah

01:33:48.720 yeah

01:33:49.380 dude

01:33:49.860 you had a

01:33:52.320 you had an investigation

01:33:53.480 you had a three year investigation

01:33:55.260 that you worked on

01:33:56.620 yeah

01:33:57.060 that was a human trafficking case

01:33:59.140 that I did with

01:34:00.000 someone from

01:34:01.280 Homeland Security Investigations

01:34:02.580 okay

01:34:02.880 and what was that

01:34:03.600 like take me through

01:34:04.220 some of that story

01:34:04.760 you had a three year investigation

01:34:05.660 that actually started

01:34:06.600 with the one I told you

01:34:07.400 the girl the music video

01:34:08.500 okay

01:34:08.960 that's how it started

01:34:10.240 and we

01:34:11.160 we got a call to children's

01:34:12.680 from children's hospital

01:34:13.720 in Boston

01:34:14.240 saying this girl there

01:34:16.140 said she was raped

01:34:16.960 in Rhode Island

01:34:18.040 oh

01:34:18.400 she I think she was 15

01:34:20.420 maybe

01:34:20.860 or 16

01:34:21.840 that's how that case started

01:34:23.300 and then we found out

01:34:24.960 all she had was a nickname

01:34:26.920 wasn't even guys real name

01:34:28.260 she had like

01:34:28.660 his Facebook page

01:34:30.160 and a nickname

01:34:30.840 like Smokey or something

01:34:32.200 yeah

01:34:32.460 I don't want to say it

01:34:34.140 okay

01:34:34.380 sorry never mind

01:34:35.160 no the guy

01:34:35.740 yeah

01:34:36.160 I was just guessing

01:34:36.840 if it was Smokey

01:34:37.300 no it wasn't Smokey

01:34:38.400 okay

01:34:38.620 so she all shares a nickname

01:34:40.980 and we kind of worked

01:34:41.960 backwards from that

01:34:43.240 like one of the Homeland Security

01:34:44.500 agents drove the girl

01:34:45.380 she's like oh

01:34:45.900 this this woman

01:34:46.800 drove me to Rhode Island

01:34:48.220 but she wasn't involved

01:34:49.100 but she drove me

01:34:50.120 and this is where she lived

01:34:52.120 she lived in this neighborhood

01:34:53.020 that's where I had to meet her

01:34:53.980 so the Homeland Security

01:34:54.880 guys started driving around

01:34:56.120 and we saw the car

01:34:57.240 in the neighborhood

01:34:57.680 and got the license plate

01:34:58.700 so then I start looking

01:35:00.220 on my end

01:35:00.820 because he doesn't have

01:35:01.420 access to Boston Police Reports

01:35:02.600 I start looking for the license plate

01:35:04.120 and a car that matches

01:35:06.560 her description

01:35:07.160 because we don't know

01:35:07.760 if it's exact

01:35:08.340 and I find a car

01:35:09.240 but it's a guy's name

01:35:10.360 but then I start looking

01:35:11.520 for reports with someone

01:35:12.540 for that last name

01:35:13.400 and then I found a woman

01:35:14.340 with that last name

01:35:15.860 and with her first name

01:35:16.700 because she told me

01:35:17.400 the girls

01:35:17.700 she knew the woman's first name

01:35:19.660 all we had was a first name

01:35:21.040 and a red car

01:35:21.720 so then I find

01:35:23.220 the last name

01:35:24.060 in the car registration

01:35:25.280 I find old reports

01:35:26.660 with this woman

01:35:27.380 with their first name

01:35:28.820 and the same last name

01:35:29.700 and we're like

01:35:30.180 oh shit

01:35:30.840 that we pull up

01:35:31.780 you know

01:35:32.180 we did a photo raid

01:35:33.160 show the girl

01:35:33.700 and she's like

01:35:34.220 that's her

01:35:34.840 so then we start

01:35:36.140 talking to her

01:35:36.820 and we end up going

01:35:37.560 it was like a spider web

01:35:39.260 so these two guys

01:35:40.840 there were two guys

01:35:41.580 who pimped her out

01:35:42.460 in Rhode Island

01:35:43.440 but she did get raped

01:35:44.240 by some guy

01:35:44.720 the guy in Rhode Island

01:35:45.480 got like seven years

01:35:46.880 for the rape

01:35:47.360 or something

01:35:47.860 because she did not

01:35:50.200 go willingly

01:35:50.760 and those two guys

01:35:53.900 worked for another pimp

01:35:55.160 and he had women

01:35:57.840 all I think

01:35:58.660 he was in his late 20s

01:36:00.480 and he had

01:36:02.380 I think like 11 baby mamas

01:36:04.880 and like 17 kids

01:36:06.700 or 14 kids

01:36:08.240 something crazy

01:36:09.080 but he had like 27

01:36:11.100 28 victims

01:36:12.200 girls that worked for him

01:36:13.220 over a period of time

01:36:14.320 including a bottom bitch

01:36:15.620 she's like the girl

01:36:16.300 that works for him

01:36:17.100 who recruits girls

01:36:18.500 and is basically

01:36:19.360 in charge of everything

01:36:20.320 collecting the money

01:36:21.120 whatever

01:36:21.360 she works herself too

01:36:22.480 usually

01:36:22.900 the bottom bitch

01:36:23.880 but that took like

01:36:26.160 three years

01:36:26.820 because we were like

01:36:27.700 in Maine

01:36:28.280 New York

01:36:29.620 these girls went

01:36:30.460 to New Jersey

01:36:31.000 they went to Vegas

01:36:31.980 California

01:36:32.560 they would drive

01:36:34.140 they would drive

01:36:34.720 to Vegas

01:36:35.180 and work

01:36:35.740 and then drive back

01:36:36.820 but he had all these

01:36:37.680 women working for him

01:36:38.260 and he was very

01:36:38.960 very violent

01:36:39.640 like he would beat

01:36:40.320 the shit out of the girls

01:36:41.120 he would pee on them

01:36:42.200 stole their shoes

01:36:43.580 their licenses

01:36:44.380 their cell phones

01:36:45.440 so they couldn't call home

01:36:46.620 like I said

01:36:47.320 some of these girls

01:36:47.980 came from like

01:36:48.820 messed up places

01:36:49.600 and it took like

01:36:50.860 three years

01:36:51.280 to get enough people to

01:36:52.400 because every time

01:36:52.920 we found somebody

01:36:53.720 we found somebody else

01:36:55.300 so that took a long time

01:36:58.280 but that was

01:36:58.980 that was

01:36:59.960 he was

01:37:00.320 I think he got like

01:37:01.260 33 years in jail

01:37:02.560 because that went federal

01:37:03.280 because of all the

01:37:03.980 different states

01:37:04.720 that was a biggie

01:37:06.120 well thank you for that

01:37:07.920 thank you for that work

01:37:09.240 I liked going back

01:37:11.440 to the district

01:37:12.000 I mean I liked it

01:37:12.780 at the time

01:37:13.200 the schedule worked

01:37:13.860 but the district

01:37:14.560 is great people

01:37:15.600 like the patrolman

01:37:16.440 because when you

01:37:17.020 were in the human trafficking

01:37:17.640 there's no patrolman

01:37:18.440 it's just detectives

01:37:19.220 so it's like

01:37:19.720 four or five detectives

01:37:20.900 and a supervisor

01:37:21.540 when you go back

01:37:22.820 to the district

01:37:23.300 there's you know

01:37:23.840 100 200 people there

01:37:25.080 so it's a lot more fun

01:37:26.060 yeah you're part of life

01:37:26.920 we laugh all day

01:37:27.860 and stuff like that

01:37:28.980 so I was happy

01:37:29.820 I realized that kind of stuff

01:37:31.280 I go hang out

01:37:32.140 with the football team

01:37:32.740 around here sometimes

01:37:33.420 and it's just like

01:37:35.200 some of the best parts

01:37:35.880 of my week

01:37:36.220 because there's just

01:37:37.440 people around

01:37:38.020 yeah

01:37:38.260 it's like otherwise

01:37:38.960 my life is very much

01:37:40.100 like kind of by myself

01:37:40.960 not by myself

01:37:41.800 but it's a limited amount

01:37:43.320 you know

01:37:43.600 yeah

01:37:43.860 it got

01:37:44.560 it got

01:37:45.160 it got old

01:37:46.960 and again

01:37:47.560 all the cases

01:37:48.080 most of them go nowhere

01:37:48.960 so that's frustrating

01:37:49.980 and I just wanted to go

01:37:50.980 you know

01:37:52.180 back to the district

01:37:53.780 and it's great people

01:37:55.060 they're the best people

01:37:55.820 on earth

01:37:56.260 and you just had to laugh

01:37:57.120 all day

01:37:57.580 you know

01:37:58.180 like when it's real shitty

01:37:59.320 like the one with the guy

01:38:00.200 you know

01:38:00.480 two women stabbed

01:38:01.280 and the dog was stabbed

01:38:02.240 in the stomach

01:38:02.780 or whatever

01:38:03.160 like those are

01:38:03.800 like we work with

01:38:04.720 really good people

01:38:05.560 you're all there together

01:38:06.520 yeah

01:38:06.880 yeah

01:38:07.140 and you

01:38:08.260 and you won

01:38:09.300 detective of the year

01:38:09.940 for that right

01:38:10.500 yeah

01:38:11.060 for the federal

01:38:11.600 for the three year

01:38:12.620 yeah

01:38:12.960 let's go

01:38:14.100 Kara congratulations

01:38:15.000 it's funny

01:38:15.980 you know

01:38:16.180 Mark Wahlberg

01:38:16.900 was at the ceremony

01:38:18.060 for the Boston Police Foundation

01:38:19.260 gave me the award

01:38:20.040 the detectives union did too

01:38:21.340 but the Boston Police Foundation

01:38:22.640 did it

01:38:23.080 it's like a non-profit

01:38:23.880 and at the time

01:38:25.540 they were promoting

01:38:26.680 the movie Patriots Day

01:38:28.040 and Peter Berg

01:38:29.300 the director

01:38:29.820 and Mark Wahlberg

01:38:30.560 were there

01:38:31.080 for the award ceremony

01:38:32.700 gave me a picture with them

01:38:33.820 or whatever

01:38:34.160 you did

01:38:34.540 yeah

01:38:34.960 that's cool

01:38:35.980 I'm gonna have to

01:38:36.480 I will

01:38:37.360 yeah

01:38:37.680 they were promoting that

01:38:39.140 I'll text Mark

01:38:39.820 and send him our picture

01:38:40.560 I don't know

01:38:41.080 if he probably

01:38:41.520 doesn't even know who I am

01:38:42.620 but I think I accidentally

01:38:43.820 snuck his number off

01:38:44.660 of a sheet once

01:38:45.340 oh Mark Wahlberg

01:38:46.680 yeah

01:38:46.940 yeah

01:38:47.580 because he's from Dorchester

01:38:48.500 where I was a detective

01:38:49.940 oh really

01:38:50.040 yes

01:38:50.460 oh

01:38:50.740 then I'll make sure

01:38:51.560 that's where he and his brothers

01:38:52.580 the family's from

01:38:53.340 not even in a bracket

01:38:54.520 we ought to be like

01:38:55.060 hey this is awesome

01:38:56.000 I just wanted to let you know

01:38:58.820 I met one of Dorchester's finest

01:39:00.240 today right here

01:39:01.100 but congratulations

01:39:02.340 that's so cool

01:39:02.960 did that make you feel

01:39:03.920 a sense of accomplishment

01:39:04.820 yeah

01:39:05.180 I mean I worked hard

01:39:06.100 again it was with

01:39:06.960 Homeland Security

01:39:07.580 and a Homeland Security agent

01:39:08.840 she did a shit ton of work

01:39:10.240 more than me

01:39:10.820 she was great

01:39:11.760 we worked together on it

01:39:12.960 and like I said

01:39:13.420 it was a long

01:39:14.020 it was a long investigation

01:39:15.480 so I was very happy

01:39:16.480 to be

01:39:16.860 have it resolved

01:39:18.360 you know

01:39:18.800 yeah

01:39:19.180 in the process of it

01:39:20.500 someone the pimp

01:39:21.320 who was in charge

01:39:21.960 who thought

01:39:22.460 the first two pimps

01:39:23.580 that got caught

01:39:24.160 with a girl in Rhode Island

01:39:25.420 that I found

01:39:26.860 through a nickname

01:39:27.420 or whatever

01:39:27.800 they thought one of them

01:39:29.080 was ratting to the feds

01:39:30.240 so he had someone

01:39:32.200 shoot one of them

01:39:33.000 in the head

01:39:33.560 no

01:39:33.920 he lived

01:39:34.600 but not good

01:39:35.940 it was like a piece of pie

01:39:37.080 was missing from his head

01:39:38.160 oh

01:39:38.680 and he just

01:39:39.400 he could sing

01:39:40.060 but he couldn't talk

01:39:40.860 he could no longer speak

01:39:42.560 that's when I found out

01:39:43.380 they said in the brain

01:39:44.220 like oh

01:39:44.580 it's different parts of the brain

01:39:45.800 he could like sing

01:39:46.540 the alphabet

01:39:47.560 and happy birthday

01:39:48.460 but he couldn't speak

01:39:49.240 and he was not ratting

01:39:50.980 to the feds

01:39:51.740 he was nobody

01:39:52.220 he was like away in New Jersey

01:39:53.280 with some girl

01:39:53.900 not at that point

01:39:54.600 you're like who did

01:39:55.280 and he's like

01:39:55.840 D-E-F-G

01:39:57.000 yeah I got

01:39:57.460 I was in court

01:39:58.440 on something else

01:39:59.240 and one of the D-A's

01:40:00.040 L-M-N-O-P

01:40:00.720 did you hear this guy

01:40:02.280 got shot

01:40:02.800 and I was like

01:40:03.160 what's his name

01:40:03.760 I was like

01:40:04.140 oh shit

01:40:05.120 that's

01:40:05.440 we're looking for him

01:40:06.080 we have an arrest warrant

01:40:06.780 for him

01:40:07.200 but that guy

01:40:08.160 had him shot

01:40:08.880 man to get caught up

01:40:11.840 in such depths

01:40:12.740 of darkness

01:40:13.280 yeah

01:40:13.660 yeah so that was

01:40:15.600 I was glad to be done

01:40:16.480 with that one

01:40:17.220 is most of your social life

01:40:19.240 with police officers

01:40:20.640 and cops and stuff

01:40:21.420 it is

01:40:21.860 it was

01:40:22.340 until I moved

01:40:23.280 moved where

01:40:24.440 I moved out of Boston

01:40:25.360 I moved to South Carolina

01:40:26.540 you did

01:40:27.380 yes

01:40:27.860 no way

01:40:28.480 what part do you live in

01:40:29.220 yeah I live just

01:40:29.780 outside Charleston

01:40:30.500 dude I used to go

01:40:31.960 to College of Charleston

01:40:32.580 for one semester

01:40:33.340 nice

01:40:33.900 yeah I used to live

01:40:34.820 over on King Street

01:40:35.480 above a buddy's apartment

01:40:36.440 for a while

01:40:36.780 King Street's the shit

01:40:37.360 it was pretty neat

01:40:38.560 it was a little bit different

01:40:39.540 but it was fun

01:40:40.480 and it's beautiful over there

01:40:43.260 it's gorgeous

01:40:43.640 are you enjoying it

01:40:44.020 and I don't want to be cold

01:40:44.900 so and I'm not a Florida person

01:40:46.400 and your daughter lives over there

01:40:47.380 yeah

01:40:47.680 you guys got Folly Beach

01:40:48.980 that's right there

01:40:49.680 yeah IOP

01:40:51.460 Isle of Palms

01:40:52.640 Sullivan's Island

01:40:53.260 yeah but they

01:40:53.760 she lives

01:40:54.580 we live north of

01:40:55.680 just north of Charleston

01:40:56.720 so yeah

01:40:58.140 we moved there

01:40:58.660 so right before I moved

01:40:59.860 I forget where we're going with this

01:41:02.960 what was I saying

01:41:04.100 is most of your social life

01:41:05.120 oh yeah yeah yeah

01:41:05.840 until I moved

01:41:06.960 yes

01:41:07.360 and it's weird

01:41:08.900 everyone's like

01:41:09.240 oh you gotta have friends

01:41:10.100 that aren't cops

01:41:10.760 so I have friends

01:41:11.600 that I'm still friends with

01:41:12.700 in high school

01:41:13.200 that I've been friends with

01:41:14.120 for 40 years

01:41:14.780 so I have a core group of girls

01:41:16.400 a few girls

01:41:17.100 that I've known since high school

01:41:18.540 but it's weird

01:41:19.860 when you become a cop

01:41:20.780 like it's hard

01:41:21.640 to talk to regular people

01:41:23.340 only because

01:41:24.780 I always said

01:41:25.700 I felt like a party trick

01:41:27.040 if you're out in a large group

01:41:28.700 and someone's like

01:41:29.240 oh they're a cop

01:41:29.860 you got any stories

01:41:30.700 did you ever shoot anybody

01:41:31.820 shoot him

01:41:32.380 no I didn't fucking shoot anybody

01:41:33.460 and if I did

01:41:33.980 it was a bad day

01:41:34.960 so maybe I don't want

01:41:36.140 to talk about it

01:41:36.840 so I think that's why

01:41:37.940 we all just end up

01:41:38.680 hanging together

01:41:39.360 because we get it

01:41:40.200 whether it's you know

01:41:41.260 cops or nurses

01:41:42.680 or whatever

01:41:43.300 yeah

01:41:45.060 they get it

01:41:45.740 because you don't want

01:41:47.000 to feel

01:41:47.300 you don't want to be

01:41:48.200 performing all the time

01:41:49.240 like I don't want

01:41:49.740 to talk about it

01:41:50.440 it sucks

01:41:50.900 yeah you wear a cuff

01:41:51.840 some of it's funny

01:41:52.420 just handcuff sex jokes

01:41:53.940 you know like

01:41:54.520 dick on the sidewalk

01:41:55.280 sounds funny

01:41:55.980 but that was a sock morning

01:41:57.160 you know what I mean

01:41:57.820 more for that kid than me

01:41:59.100 but in baby in a trash can

01:42:00.960 and all this other shit

01:42:01.900 it's hard

01:42:02.340 yeah first of all

01:42:02.880 a lot of these sound like

01:42:03.760 like um

01:42:05.220 a lot of these sound like

01:42:06.000 baby shower party games too

01:42:07.480 I know

01:42:07.720 I do want to say that

01:42:08.180 and that's not what

01:42:09.360 we're doing here today guys

01:42:10.340 it's just kind of

01:42:11.100 some of the way things sound

01:42:12.340 yes

01:42:12.820 so that's what

01:42:13.420 those are my

01:42:13.860 what I call my chapter

01:42:15.060 my titles of my chapters

01:42:16.980 of the alleged book

01:42:17.800 I'm going to write

01:42:18.300 I love it

01:42:18.840 that's why I shortened it like that

01:42:20.400 but like you don't want to feel like

01:42:21.540 you're on all the time

01:42:22.820 so that's why we hang together

01:42:24.060 because we all get it

01:42:24.940 and we have a weird sense of humor

01:42:26.240 we're different people

01:42:27.220 like when we have Christmas

01:42:28.740 I run the

01:42:29.320 I used to run the Christmas parties

01:42:30.640 for our district

01:42:31.180 and they'd be like

01:42:32.420 oh we can section off

01:42:33.320 a part of the bar

01:42:34.000 we're like

01:42:34.300 no no no no

01:42:34.900 we have to be in our own space

01:42:36.380 like we are not

01:42:37.660 FIFO public society

01:42:38.740 I used to say

01:42:39.320 because we say shit

01:42:40.020 that is not funny

01:42:40.860 and it's funny to us

01:42:42.340 but if like

01:42:43.300 random normal people

01:42:45.020 who just go about their business

01:42:46.280 heard some of the shit

01:42:47.180 that we'd say

01:42:47.580 they'd be horrified

01:42:48.320 oh I've had

01:42:49.360 very recent experience

01:42:50.300 with some of that

01:42:50.900 and I feel you 100%

01:42:52.040 wow

01:42:54.640 was it hard to move away then

01:42:57.040 no I was ready

01:42:58.380 you were

01:42:58.760 yeah I was done

01:42:59.540 and I wanted to be warm

01:43:00.360 my daughter was already down here

01:43:01.560 oh your daughter lives in Charleston

01:43:02.760 yeah

01:43:03.180 oh that's great

01:43:03.960 so I wanted to come down

01:43:05.360 is that your only child

01:43:06.180 yeah

01:43:06.540 oh she's beautiful

01:43:07.360 thank you

01:43:08.260 and are you still married or no

01:43:10.360 no of course

01:43:11.100 years yeah

01:43:11.960 and was that hard

01:43:12.880 is it hard to keep

01:43:13.740 are a lot of officers married

01:43:15.480 and is there a lot of dating

01:43:16.840 on the force

01:43:17.520 what's that kind of life

01:43:18.900 like for

01:43:19.480 yeah it's a little

01:43:19.940 it seems very tough

01:43:21.400 we spend a lot of time together

01:43:23.120 so there's always

01:43:24.000 a lot of relationships

01:43:24.920 form in the police department

01:43:26.900 like cops end up

01:43:27.640 married to each other

01:43:28.520 I'm divorced

01:43:31.500 I've been divorced for years

01:43:32.540 it's funny

01:43:33.280 my ex-husband

01:43:33.940 and his new wife

01:43:34.700 he's remarried

01:43:35.280 a wife

01:43:35.480 they moved down here too

01:43:36.460 oh nice

01:43:37.260 yeah so we all get along

01:43:38.400 so they could be near my daughter

01:43:40.340 and they have a child as well

01:43:42.000 so she has

01:43:42.540 she has a brother with him

01:43:43.700 but it's hard

01:43:45.460 it seems easier now

01:43:47.580 for some reason

01:43:48.120 cops now

01:43:49.460 in my experience

01:43:50.460 that I've seen

01:43:51.180 are more family oriented

01:43:52.500 than they were

01:43:53.060 when I was young

01:43:53.840 there was a lot more drinking

01:43:55.020 going on then

01:43:55.800 like guys would stay late

01:43:57.060 in the parking lot

01:43:57.940 and like no one would go home

01:43:59.140 and now everyone's all

01:44:00.560 about their family

01:44:01.260 so I think it's morphed

01:44:02.700 whether it's who they're choosing

01:44:04.020 or who wants

01:44:04.720 no one wants the job

01:44:05.700 first of all by the way

01:44:06.620 when I took the police exam

01:44:08.180 like 10,000 people took it

01:44:09.940 and now they can't even get

01:44:11.360 like 800 people

01:44:12.400 to take the test

01:44:13.620 no one wants

01:44:14.180 I mean it's terrible

01:44:14.760 people hate us

01:44:15.420 well of course

01:44:15.600 when your district attorney

01:44:16.820 is not supporting you

01:44:17.600 when your government

01:44:18.140 isn't supporting you

01:44:19.040 and all over the country

01:44:19.560 like no

01:44:20.420 we're not the fire department

01:44:21.780 everyone

01:44:22.120 America's heroes

01:44:23.200 it's a joke

01:44:23.700 we laugh that

01:44:24.240 no one wants to see us coming

01:44:25.440 and it's just gotten worse

01:44:26.640 and worse over time

01:44:27.480 because we're not

01:44:28.140 politically supported

01:44:28.960 even nationally

01:44:29.760 weren't in the past

01:44:31.660 it's changed

01:44:32.400 so it's hard

01:44:34.520 to

01:44:35.100 maintain

01:44:36.760 relationships

01:44:38.020 like unless

01:44:38.980 because we're with each other

01:44:39.860 we all work 12, 14, 16 hours a day

01:44:41.620 I can't even imagine

01:44:42.580 and so that's how

01:44:43.480 a lot of them end up together

01:44:44.920 I think

01:44:46.060 and then again

01:44:46.560 because they understand it

01:44:47.700 it's hard for a non-police person

01:44:49.160 to understand

01:44:49.700 what's going through

01:44:50.280 our crazy heads

01:44:50.940 because we're all crazy

01:44:51.780 and we wouldn't take

01:44:52.940 we would have taken the job

01:44:54.420 I think

01:44:54.860 if it didn't make you crazy

01:44:56.240 I can't even imagine

01:44:58.620 you have to drive in a car

01:45:00.300 that has a siren on it

01:45:01.360 first of all

01:45:01.720 sometimes it's kind of aggravating

01:45:03.480 and then

01:45:04.260 when you get there

01:45:05.120 you might have to shoot somebody

01:45:06.360 or get shot

01:45:07.180 I'm out

01:45:08.220 yeah it's a lot

01:45:09.260 you know

01:45:09.780 it's a lot

01:45:10.280 so it's a lot

01:45:10.880 for a regular person

01:45:11.800 to live with someone

01:45:12.780 who's dealing with that

01:45:14.040 I think

01:45:14.540 yeah is it hard

01:45:15.400 to keep the work at work

01:45:16.320 for a lot of people

01:45:16.960 or is it not

01:45:17.560 is it

01:45:17.900 it's changed

01:45:18.740 I mean it varies by person

01:45:20.240 some people can shut it off

01:45:21.420 they don't give a shit

01:45:22.200 just go home and shut it off

01:45:23.400 and some people get really

01:45:24.560 you know

01:45:25.080 fucked up over it

01:45:25.980 and drink too much

01:45:26.840 or they're too

01:45:27.580 you know

01:45:28.160 mental like depression

01:45:29.700 or whatever

01:45:30.380 so

01:45:31.760 what did you think about

01:45:32.800 Trump utilizing the National Guard

01:45:34.220 to help out in some of these cities

01:45:35.300 I thought it was fucking great

01:45:36.080 I did too

01:45:36.620 I mean if the mayor's

01:45:37.500 aren't gonna fix it

01:45:38.320 you can't have that much chaos

01:45:40.120 in the streets

01:45:41.020 do something

01:45:41.880 I agree

01:45:42.480 and the fact that they're fighting it

01:45:43.640 like oh how dare you

01:45:44.600 clean up my city

01:45:45.460 are you insane

01:45:46.600 I would love if there's military

01:45:48.660 and I mean like

01:45:49.580 especially if it helps us

01:45:50.660 get to a point

01:45:51.260 where we don't need that

01:45:52.260 where there's a bit of

01:45:53.460 you know

01:45:54.120 where it solves

01:45:55.400 the problem

01:45:56.140 people want it

01:45:56.500 it's funny

01:45:56.920 when everyone was hating on us

01:45:58.280 a few years ago

01:45:58.980 bad after George Floyd

01:46:00.160 and stuff

01:46:00.620 everyone

01:46:01.040 hate us

01:46:01.880 videotaping you

01:46:02.560 everywhere you go

01:46:03.160 cameras

01:46:03.500 every radio call you're at

01:46:05.240 the phone's out

01:46:06.280 in your face

01:46:06.780 they're waiting for something

01:46:07.580 to happen

01:46:08.020 and they're cursing at you

01:46:09.140 spit on you

01:46:11.280 when they talk

01:46:12.140 and that's not

01:46:13.600 and you can't react to that

01:46:15.020 you can't be like

01:46:15.720 you know

01:46:16.100 you can't get into it

01:46:17.060 with people

01:46:17.500 and so we're

01:46:18.200 what pieces of shit

01:46:19.460 do that

01:46:20.400 everyone

01:46:21.060 that's who does it

01:46:22.220 everyone

01:46:22.660 every piece of shit

01:46:23.680 does it

01:46:24.220 but then you find out

01:46:25.260 like the normal people

01:46:26.120 in the neighborhoods

01:46:26.580 they want us there

01:46:27.660 they come out

01:46:28.260 they're like

01:46:28.600 thank you

01:46:29.160 thank you for coming

01:46:30.100 but that's

01:46:30.740 doesn't happen as often

01:46:32.360 as you'd like

01:46:32.980 and it is interesting

01:46:34.480 it is like

01:46:35.060 you know

01:46:35.580 I think it is a nice reminder

01:46:36.840 to find ways

01:46:37.540 to stop by our police

01:46:38.480 and fire departments

01:46:39.180 and be supportive

01:46:39.940 you know

01:46:40.380 one thing that's kind of fun

01:46:42.280 about fire departments

01:46:43.260 I'll say is

01:46:43.680 you can walk by

01:46:44.200 and see the guys

01:46:44.900 right there sometimes

01:46:45.760 right by the truck

01:46:46.380 you know what I'm saying

01:46:46.660 so you can go up

01:46:47.480 and say hey

01:46:48.080 you can go up

01:46:49.020 and like

01:46:49.380 yeah it's not like

01:46:50.240 walking into a police station

01:46:51.340 you're right

01:46:51.620 yeah there you're like

01:46:52.620 okay

01:46:52.880 well it has to be secure

01:46:54.280 because there's prisoners inside

01:46:55.620 and there's firearms

01:46:56.280 so it can't be as open

01:46:57.760 and welcoming

01:46:58.260 at a fire department

01:46:59.060 it's just a crock pot

01:46:59.960 full of freaking

01:47:00.620 ballpark franks

01:47:02.560 going on

01:47:03.020 so it's a different

01:47:03.800 now they'll guard those

01:47:04.760 with their life

01:47:05.300 some of those guys

01:47:05.860 it's a different atmosphere

01:47:06.580 yeah

01:47:07.060 and there's the one guy

01:47:09.380 that's like afraid

01:47:09.900 to slide down the pole

01:47:10.700 he's like

01:47:11.080 he just waits

01:47:12.300 so everybody else goes

01:47:13.060 and then he just

01:47:13.420 takes the stairs

01:47:14.000 real fast

01:47:14.520 but it's

01:47:15.120 none of that's any judgment

01:47:16.360 these guys are heroes

01:47:17.260 but that's one thing

01:47:18.240 that's nice

01:47:18.780 like we were in New York

01:47:19.620 the other day

01:47:19.960 and they were even

01:47:20.460 doing a call

01:47:21.060 and we like

01:47:21.540 took my buddy's son up

01:47:22.900 and he like

01:47:23.560 will wear his little

01:47:24.260 fire jacket around town

01:47:25.720 and he'll just like

01:47:26.960 go get into the fire truck

01:47:28.460 and shit

01:47:28.860 it's like

01:47:29.140 they come back

01:47:29.660 and we're just like

01:47:30.100 this kid's in their truck

01:47:31.520 but

01:47:31.740 oh kids love fire trucks

01:47:33.180 oh they love it

01:47:33.920 I mean that's

01:47:34.500 you know

01:47:34.760 and cruisers

01:47:35.440 they like the noise

01:47:36.300 the noise and the lights

01:47:37.400 it's exciting

01:47:38.220 they think it's cool

01:47:39.060 you know

01:47:39.560 oh look at this

01:47:43.280 here we go

01:47:43.760 Sean Diddy Combs

01:47:45.460 sentencing live updates

01:47:46.820 Combs gets 50 months

01:47:48.360 in prison

01:47:49.060 that's actually not that much

01:47:50.820 four years

01:47:51.460 for his conviction

01:47:52.940 on two prostitution

01:47:54.200 related offenses

01:47:54.980 what were the offenses

01:47:55.840 can you let me know

01:47:56.700 he must have been

01:47:57.820 sex trafficking

01:47:58.460 of a minor maybe

01:47:59.480 he got acquitted

01:48:01.340 of the most serious

01:48:01.920 charges he faced

01:48:02.400 racketeering

01:48:02.940 conspiracy

01:48:03.440 and sex trafficking

01:48:04.140 found him guilty

01:48:04.840 on two counts

01:48:05.320 of transportation

01:48:06.100 to engage in prostitution

01:48:07.360 you know

01:48:09.180 I personally thought

01:48:10.320 that this whole thing

01:48:11.440 was something

01:48:13.120 they were trying

01:48:13.560 to create

01:48:13.920 during the election

01:48:14.780 of kind of like

01:48:15.760 I don't know

01:48:16.560 how they were trying

01:48:17.240 to use it

01:48:17.820 but I thought

01:48:18.620 it was

01:48:18.820 they were trying

01:48:19.260 he did some crazy shit

01:48:20.500 oh for sure

01:48:21.480 I mean

01:48:22.500 but do you think

01:48:23.200 he was just a freak

01:48:24.080 that got really addicted

01:48:25.080 to what he was doing

01:48:25.900 and like a power hungry

01:48:27.360 from what I hear

01:48:28.040 he's a very power

01:48:29.620 controlling type of person

01:48:31.660 yeah I mean

01:48:31.840 I obviously don't know

01:48:32.920 the gist of

01:48:33.900 the cases

01:48:34.540 why they charge him

01:48:35.320 with conspiracy

01:48:35.940 and sex trafficking

01:48:36.980 with their minors involved

01:48:38.140 so I don't know why

01:48:39.240 yeah so we got what

01:48:40.060 just over four years

01:48:41.000 I don't know

01:48:42.640 what he

01:48:43.560 I mean

01:48:45.080 you can't get them

01:48:45.640 for sex parties

01:48:46.420 so there's obviously

01:48:47.120 something there

01:48:47.800 that's a good point

01:48:48.460 and who knows

01:48:50.440 what they kept back

01:48:51.420 who knows

01:48:51.860 what got like

01:48:52.700 behind closed doors

01:48:53.740 yeah stuff gets suppressed

01:48:54.560 yeah

01:48:54.880 victims don't want to testify

01:48:56.340 was he the one with the girl

01:48:57.320 he was kicking the shit out of

01:48:58.260 in the hallway

01:48:58.640 at the elevator

01:48:59.180 that was pretty bad to watch

01:49:00.640 yeah never mind

01:49:01.380 you know what

01:49:01.760 fuck that

01:49:02.360 give him fucking 10 more years

01:49:04.580 I am

01:49:06.200 I'm sorry

01:49:06.580 and you know what's messed up

01:49:08.600 I forgot about that

01:49:10.340 yeah

01:49:10.760 you know

01:49:11.620 there's so much evil shit

01:49:13.160 out there sometimes

01:49:13.720 well it's non-stop

01:49:14.780 every week there's something else

01:49:16.300 every day something else

01:49:17.360 comes out

01:49:17.840 so

01:49:18.120 but do you think

01:49:19.020 okay so going back to that

01:49:20.520 so that statement

01:49:21.140 and I agree with you

01:49:22.000 is a lot

01:49:22.440 but if we go back

01:49:23.560 to like

01:49:24.040 working the beats

01:49:25.240 on the indoor chest

01:49:26.460 when you were starting

01:49:27.240 like

01:49:28.120 there's a better way

01:49:30.300 to do it right

01:49:31.020 there's a better way

01:49:31.680 we can be

01:49:32.500 yeah people have to be

01:49:34.300 human beings

01:49:34.980 but there's a lot of people

01:49:36.320 that aren't

01:49:36.860 that's pieces of shit

01:49:37.840 for whatever reason

01:49:39.360 whether it's poverty

01:49:40.220 or their upbringing

01:49:41.060 or drugs

01:49:42.540 mess and fucks up families

01:49:44.200 to know it

01:49:44.740 and so

01:49:45.120 I don't know

01:49:46.740 I don't know what the answer is

01:49:47.880 it's not what we're doing

01:49:48.960 right

01:49:49.820 I wonder if it's what we are doing

01:49:52.760 or what is being done to us

01:49:54.220 that's having more of an effect on us

01:49:55.460 or

01:49:55.640 or probably some

01:49:56.820 some

01:49:57.640 well yeah

01:49:58.480 when we can't control it

01:49:59.440 people are gonna be

01:50:00.040 pieces of shit and bad

01:50:00.840 like that's not our fault

01:50:01.900 that's not your fault

01:50:02.740 we didn't do anything

01:50:03.620 we're just going about our business

01:50:04.860 having a job

01:50:05.580 getting up in the morning

01:50:06.320 going to work or whatever

01:50:07.260 yeah

01:50:07.660 the people that choose to

01:50:09.180 I'm just gonna fucking rob this person

01:50:10.720 some people are just bad people

01:50:12.160 yeah

01:50:12.540 some people end up that way

01:50:13.860 because of the way they're raised

01:50:14.640 and some people are just fucking bad

01:50:16.340 they really are

01:50:17.120 just the way they are

01:50:17.960 yeah and I think sometimes

01:50:19.120 we do get caught in this space

01:50:20.400 of like

01:50:20.700 oh we have to recuperate everybody

01:50:22.880 and we gotta save everybody

01:50:24.300 right

01:50:24.780 there's real victims out there

01:50:26.340 right

01:50:26.680 and it's not them

01:50:27.400 it's not those guys

01:50:28.420 that's a good point

01:50:29.160 oh when it came to the prostitute

01:50:30.820 the

01:50:31.160 the pimps

01:50:32.680 and everything like that

01:50:33.180 is there a certain like ethnicity

01:50:34.860 like is it Asian

01:50:35.900 is it black

01:50:36.620 is it white

01:50:37.340 is it

01:50:37.760 the pimps

01:50:38.560 do you hear like a certain

01:50:39.640 is that a

01:50:40.020 is that whole universe

01:50:41.060 of a certain world

01:50:42.240 like where a lot of these

01:50:42.900 because you always hear like

01:50:43.600 Asian prostitution

01:50:44.740 like was it a certain

01:50:46.000 or is it anybody

01:50:46.640 so the spas

01:50:47.640 were Asian

01:50:48.780 their pimps were Asian

01:50:49.940 but the ones

01:50:50.980 in my experience

01:50:52.100 in all of my cases

01:50:53.340 whether they were male

01:50:55.120 or female pimps

01:50:55.960 because we had a couple females

01:50:56.880 they were

01:50:57.420 they were black

01:50:58.560 they're African American

01:50:59.360 really

01:51:00.220 yeah

01:51:00.800 like female pimps too

01:51:01.980 they worked

01:51:02.660 yes

01:51:03.020 they ended up

01:51:03.720 like the bottom bitch

01:51:04.620 they'd end up kind of

01:51:05.640 working on their own

01:51:06.580 the most common

01:51:07.720 ethnicities of pimps

01:51:08.580 in the United States

01:51:09.100 according to available

01:51:09.960 arrest data and research

01:51:10.940 are predominantly black

01:51:11.800 African American

01:51:12.580 making up about

01:51:13.720 two-thirds of identified

01:51:14.640 or arrested pimps

01:51:15.600 wow

01:51:15.780 followed by a smaller

01:51:16.460 proportion of Latino

01:51:17.300 white

01:51:17.700 multi-racial

01:51:18.900 mixed people

01:51:19.440 they'll do

01:51:19.820 they'll pretty much

01:51:20.600 do anything

01:51:21.080 and Asian individuals

01:51:22.760 yeah

01:51:23.220 the spas were

01:51:23.960 the people running

01:51:25.600 those were Asian

01:51:26.260 that's kind of crazy

01:51:27.640 I wonder

01:51:27.980 well maybe it has a lot

01:51:28.880 to do with that music

01:51:29.660 that's in that culture too

01:51:30.860 just the way that

01:51:31.580 some of that music

01:51:32.280 is so vulgar

01:51:33.320 and like bitch

01:51:34.620 pimp

01:51:35.100 and that

01:51:35.560 you know

01:51:36.100 yeah stuff's glorified

01:51:37.240 yeah

01:51:37.840 that's a good point

01:51:38.540 I think that

01:51:39.460 that culture

01:51:40.000 has the most glorification

01:51:40.760 of the music

01:51:41.480 of the performers

01:51:42.520 now a lot of the

01:51:44.040 a lot of the producers

01:51:45.940 and agents

01:51:46.420 of that group

01:51:46.880 are white

01:51:47.320 so certainly

01:51:49.400 just as much

01:51:50.400 yeah they're involved

01:51:51.140 too

01:51:51.300 responsibility yeah

01:51:52.100 thank you so much

01:51:53.540 for hanging out

01:51:54.600 I want to know

01:51:55.060 what do you like to do now

01:51:56.080 so are you retired now

01:51:57.400 I just retired

01:51:58.240 three months ago

01:51:58.940 congratulations

01:51:59.620 thank you so much

01:52:00.940 very happy

01:52:02.000 you're supposed to put in

01:52:03.080 32 years

01:52:03.800 to get your full pension

01:52:04.680 but I gave up

01:52:05.340 after 31

01:52:05.980 what

01:52:06.660 yeah 32 years

01:52:08.040 but you get your

01:52:08.480 you still get a pension

01:52:09.680 no I get my pension

01:52:10.720 it's just not

01:52:11.160 the most you're gonna get

01:52:11.960 is 80% of your salary

01:52:13.340 okay

01:52:13.640 after 32 years

01:52:14.840 and I stayed till 31 years

01:52:17.260 and I get like 77%

01:52:18.740 or something

01:52:19.320 that's fair

01:52:19.780 yeah I'm down south

01:52:21.400 now I go to the beach

01:52:22.220 I paint

01:52:23.040 I do oil painting

01:52:23.900 in my

01:52:24.320 as a hobby

01:52:26.380 you do

01:52:26.880 yeah

01:52:27.420 would you do us

01:52:28.500 a little bitty painting

01:52:29.340 and we could put it in here

01:52:30.120 no I'm fucking terrible

01:52:31.120 I'm just learning

01:52:31.900 I copy artists

01:52:33.440 that I like

01:52:34.080 that's how I'm learning

01:52:34.760 it's like mixed colors

01:52:35.540 and stuff like that

01:52:36.180 so I copy artists

01:52:37.580 paintings that I appreciate

01:52:38.840 and I try to recreate them

01:52:40.100 just in the learning process

01:52:41.200 I'm terrible

01:52:41.760 I'm brand new

01:52:42.340 if you ever do want to do something

01:52:43.780 even smaller

01:52:44.340 it could even be years from now

01:52:45.440 you want to

01:52:45.900 I'll send you a little painting

01:52:47.000 yeah

01:52:47.300 my niece is an actual painter

01:52:48.900 and I told her I was coming

01:52:50.280 she's like

01:52:50.700 bring Theo a painting

01:52:52.100 oh that's cool

01:52:53.500 that's sweet

01:52:54.100 well I'm glad that I asked

01:52:55.020 that would be really nice to have

01:52:55.820 because then I can tell people

01:52:56.580 who it's from

01:52:57.160 and thank you so much

01:53:00.300 for your service

01:53:01.160 thank you so much

01:53:02.140 thank you for having me

01:53:02.900 thank you for having

01:53:03.520 normal people on

01:53:04.280 and not just

01:53:04.840 you know like

01:53:05.420 it's nice to have somebody

01:53:06.740 who gives a shit

01:53:07.920 what we're doing

01:53:08.860 instead of

01:53:09.940 you know

01:53:10.580 yeah well I think

01:53:11.320 I'm learning more

01:53:12.100 that that's just so much

01:53:12.960 more important to me

01:53:13.960 sometimes I think

01:53:15.000 I don't know

01:53:15.540 this whole thing

01:53:16.600 has been interesting

01:53:17.360 like just talking to people

01:53:19.000 and stuff like that

01:53:19.820 because I'm not really

01:53:20.700 the best interviewer

01:53:21.360 but I do

01:53:21.840 I am curious about people

01:53:23.240 well that's what makes

01:53:24.080 a good interview

01:53:24.640 you ask people questions

01:53:25.880 you know you're a great interviewer

01:53:27.260 come on

01:53:27.900 wow that's sweet of you

01:53:29.100 thank you

01:53:30.000 you're welcome

01:53:30.380 I love the Amish kid interview

01:53:31.600 that was great

01:53:32.100 oh he was good

01:53:32.880 he was great

01:53:33.540 he was so funny

01:53:34.860 he was very well speaking

01:53:35.340 he was just very direct

01:53:36.500 he seemed so natural at it

01:53:37.780 he really did

01:53:38.540 I know

01:53:39.140 I see your hat there

01:53:40.860 I like you

01:53:41.340 oh yeah

01:53:41.620 that's he gave that

01:53:42.500 it's really him

01:53:43.480 and Louis C.K. just gave me

01:53:45.160 his new book

01:53:45.940 I give it to your daughter

01:53:47.000 but it's kind of for boys

01:53:47.900 it's a boy book

01:53:49.180 is it a novel

01:53:49.900 it is

01:53:50.820 and he did a really great job

01:53:51.940 writing

01:53:52.180 alright

01:53:52.720 he's funny

01:53:54.080 he's funny shit

01:53:55.160 I know he had trouble

01:53:55.940 in the past

01:53:56.500 but he's a funny bastard

01:53:57.600 yeah he is

01:53:58.460 and I'm so glad

01:53:59.860 he had trouble in the past

01:54:00.540 because that's how

01:54:00.960 he and I got to know each other

01:54:01.860 because we've all had trouble

01:54:02.840 and so it's good

01:54:04.940 that's great

01:54:05.660 yeah

01:54:06.100 and in the spirit of service

01:54:08.100 we got a picture of our

01:54:09.240 this is our

01:54:09.800 Jim Jeffries

01:54:10.760 he was a comedian

01:54:11.280 that was on

01:54:11.680 that's his nephew

01:54:12.480 oh nice

01:54:13.100 Lieutenant Max Nugent

01:54:15.000 yeah

01:54:15.640 who was

01:54:16.140 an officer in the Australian Army

01:54:18.420 and he passed away

01:54:19.520 in a helicopter crash

01:54:20.380 so he is our

01:54:21.380 he's our hero

01:54:23.040 so we're excited

01:54:24.020 to have him

01:54:24.620 nice to have him there

01:54:25.760 yeah

01:54:26.160 it's nice

01:54:27.020 yeah he's cool

01:54:27.840 he seems like a neat guy

01:54:29.600 so I'm sure we'll get to know

01:54:31.080 channel some thoughts

01:54:33.020 and feelings

01:54:33.440 and energy from him

01:54:34.200 over the years

01:54:34.600 but anyway

01:54:35.420 thank you both for your service

01:54:36.420 congratulations on your move

01:54:38.480 thank you

01:54:39.020 and you look lovely

01:54:39.700 and I wish you a beautiful

01:54:40.820 second half of your life

01:54:42.280 as it evolves

01:54:42.940 thank you so much

01:54:43.720 and thank you for bringing

01:54:43.920 your daughter

01:54:44.360 and we got you guys

01:54:45.860 set up for dinner

01:54:46.340 night over at 1230 club

01:54:47.360 that'll be fun

01:54:47.920 that's lovely

01:54:48.360 thank you so much

01:54:49.080 yeah

01:54:49.300 I appreciate you

01:54:50.080 thank you so much

01:54:50.860 thank you

01:54:51.580 lovely to meet you

01:54:52.660 now I'm just floating

01:54:54.440 on the breeze

01:54:55.600 and I feel I'm falling

01:54:57.200 like these leaves

01:54:58.540 I must be

01:54:59.600 cornerstone

01:55:01.860 oh

01:55:04.480 but when I reach that ground

01:55:06.420 I'll share this peace of mind

01:55:08.580 I found

01:55:09.260 I can feel it

01:55:10.620 in my bones

01:55:12.740 but it's gonna tell you

01:55:15.420 I muchís

01:55:16.420 thank you so much

01:55:30.880 I'll give you a bit of time

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - October 09, 2025

#616 - Retired Boston Detective

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