#650 - Jake Paul
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 7 minutes
Words per minute
155.54388
Harmful content
Misogyny
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Toxicity
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Hate speech
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Summary
Jake Paul is a renaissance man. He s a content creator, an entrepreneur, a professional boxer, and he has political aspirations, possibly. This is my first time getting to sit down with him and really have a talk, and I m grateful for that.
Transcript
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Just a reminder that tickets for Busboys, the movie, with myself and David Spade, are on sale right now.
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It's in theaters April 17th, but if you get tickets now, it'll show the movie theaters that we're going to sell them,
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or that they are selling, and then we can expand to more theaters.
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So if you know when you're going to go and you can support, that would be great, and no pressure if you can't.
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And again, the pre-sale tickets are available, busboysmovie.com.
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He's a professional boxer, and he has political aspirations, possibly.
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This is my first time getting to sit down with him and really have a talk.
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just like anyone could have a kid it's crazy bro like when i look at people i'm like yo what
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the fuck is this guy doing he's got a fucking kid he's gonna raise this kid the kid's gonna
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be worse like well we'll talk about logan after a while dude but i'm talking about just in general
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i'm just joking logan uh but i'm talking just about in general dude yeah the fact that they
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don't put birth control in the suboxone first of all or something like like methadone with birth
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control you think they're just and if you don't finish school you shouldn't get more than one
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kid i don't think there should be like a certificate that you gotta you gotta fill out
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some paperwork for to get a kid bro to be honest you gotta pass the iq test honestly or some shit
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like that yeah even a low iq test would feel bad like ah these these people and and and by the way
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Look at the president with the machine gun
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I gave a little to my buddy's cat the other day.
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so he turned into a fucking iron marathoner dude he's dating a dog now he's fucking he's crushing
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it dude yeah it's changing it's changing the uh animalic sex order dude um dude good to see you
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dude i saw this picture of you the the other day um see if you can pull this out there was a picture
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of a of a pet that we saved speaking of pets that one of them looked like you and tell me if you
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think it's fair or not and this is i'm not that's pretty that one yeah i would say that's a that's
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that's a that's a great compliment yeah that's i thought it was gonna be much worse
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i thought you were gonna show like a fucking lemur or something yeah something on his last
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leg or something i was like i'm honored that this is he thought of me bro because
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Me and Spade have a movie that we made that's coming out
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Did that make it harder to self-fund and stuff like that?
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or getting all yeah all of it getting in theaters i think people were some people called and were
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like dude how'd you guys get it into theaters you know and so that part i think was kind of tough
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the tough parts were just all the spaces you have to stay involved with you think like oh somebody
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else does that and you're like oh no there's no there's nobody else and so it just falls back on
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you i'm sure it's yeah are you nervous like for the outcome because i think you know like you just
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see a lot of movies with the biggest names these days with super big budgets and the you know all
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the people behind them and then it flops like are you nervous about that yeah because it's public
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like even I've had a couple of fights where it's like the pay-per-views weren't as good
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but it's private info yeah I think there's a part of me like I like to be like kind of in control
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of what i do right and so that's why i was waiting to do something where it's like um we wrote it we
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made it's our own thing so at least in the end i do feel like we did a good job and i got to do it
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with somebody really like who's amazing and a stat and like established in that universe um
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yeah i think it is scary because you don't want it to affect how people think about you or feel
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about you they may just not be like i care about seeing a movie this weekend and it's almost to
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the weekend like nobody buys a ticket for a movie three weeks in advance i thought we'd put it out
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and be like oh it'll all sell out like a like you like maybe with a comedy show but with a movie
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it's like you kind of have to wait till that weekend it's probably similar with like a pay-per-view
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no 100 and we actually like base our fights around making sure there's no other big events
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um like the last fight on netflix like third third biggest fight ever with joshua 35 million
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viewers live but it was the same weekend as avatar the same day so it plays into it like
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would we have gotten five million more viewers it's just something interesting to think about but
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um sometimes you can't choose another date so yeah we just yeah i think i'm definitely a little
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bit spooked about it i'm a little uh i'm nervous about i'm also kind of excited about it and if
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i think if it doesn't go great it's okay it's like you know i hope it does because we want to
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be able to make more stuff and help other people make more stuff that don't get like like there's
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no studio attached to it it's like nobody told us anything we could put in or out of the script
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um so it's all our own thing so so it's not woke yeah it's not woke dude we got an eight-year-old
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This is my problem with people saying the word f***ing.
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because some people are wondering what I don't say
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and you won't even know when I'm going to say it.
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who fucking is pissed off at one of his friends
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I'm not going to be some guy who's holding hands
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The stuff with the husband and what could have happened
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Like mess with people's families and shit that much
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They don't go into that kind of area very much
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This could be fucking you or Logan in 40 years, dude.
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Dude, this is Hulk Hogan's whole family in one picture, dude.
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Yeah, no, honestly, it's fucking hilarious.
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and like all the Republicans being mad about this shit
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and even though it's fucking dark and twisted
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yes um and and extreme truth and people weren't ready for that but but uh i i think it's fucking
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hilarious and um i want to ask you something because i've been over the last couple of days
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calling um makeup artists and i was gonna do a response to this and like go
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That makes us, if we have to partner with someone,
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And he's done it a couple of times, actually.
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Dude, Justin Trudeau did it, and he's freaking dating Katy Perry.
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Justin Trudeau, the mayor of freaking Canada.
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But to be fair, that picture's in black and white, so we can't tell how dark he went.
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What about Jimmy Kimmel when he was blacking around over there?
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He never grew up with anything racist in his heart
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that's the problem there's too many haters out there
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craziest one he did was the one where he spit
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on a black guy out of a car dressed as a white guy
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I think it's a good discussion, and I'm glad that you brought it up.
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Because sometimes, yeah, it's like I don't even have anybody that's even semi-bullying.
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You're like kind of the blackest guy we've had in here in a while.
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yeah yeah and shout out jim yeah he showed me his asshole and i'd even ask about it and what what
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so how did he show you his it was outdoors he was reenacting something and uh and he showed me
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his asshole but he's awesome honestly the the the more people i meet in life and like he showed me
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as richard dent you know that's just an old bears player who played at the same time and that's just
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such a crazy statement okay go on the more people no yeah the more the more people i meet the more
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weird like i think that yeah like people are fucking weird bro yeah and they want to show
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people do bro it's the 11th so this is the problem is like i was raised right in a sense
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but like what bro i'm saying i'm saying like the the richer you get the less um normal experiences
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has become for you, so you have to do something
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take yourself out of the files right now or something.
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fish that's in a wheelchair. Have you seen that?
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Look at this. Look at this bitch they got.
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You don't think anything's possible, dude?
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Look at this bitch. You trying to fight that thing
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He's a wheelchair and two IQ is who I'm looking to fight.
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He still has a one fight deal with the UFC, but you got to fucking.
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But this is what we're fucking living in, dude.
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People can't eat and we're fucking building fish.
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it makes sense why is it a fucking wheelchair this is this is comedy gold like uh it's comedy
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goldfish dude we're fucked we're fucked dude this is horrible all we've done is is lobby for
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fucking blackface this whole pod and nothing else dude but we're gonna keep it moving man
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do you think um okay let's let's start over okay do you think erica kirk had anything to do with
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the husband's death let's switch it up let's switch it up and that's mouthwash you know but
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yeah keep having some do you i love listerine bro it's a fucking good stuff that's a new listerine
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green apple bro you you're funny i don't know if you can ask that you're pretty funny okay
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i don't know i'll talk about a lot of things but i i don't think i'll talk about charlie kirk
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and his assassination okay the sensitive details around it oh dude i don't even want to fucking
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talk about it's just on our list of stuff so i'll keep it moving some some ai you chat gbt'd what
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to ask jake paul and it told you this it was like what will go most viral it said things jake paul
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could handle and yeah one of them was frizz golf one of them was oh the tiger woods dui that was
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kind of crazy let's talk let's let's let's brush on that because people deal with addiction people
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deal with that stuff it's something i've dealt with um that was kind of a surprise to me i was
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kind of surprised to see that you know have you ever played golf with tiger no um i don't no i
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don't play golf i i mean bro like it's a second time thing for him right yeah but it's been like
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a decade since the last time so it just seems like maybe he was going through a tough patch
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yeah it's tough bro it's tough did you ever struggle with anything like that
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Yeah, for sure. For sure. Like, um, especially when I was younger, there was a phase where, um, I was just like going through a really rough time in a lot of ways in life. Um, suicidal, um, lost a lot of money and had terrible people around me.
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and so that was a that was a time that you were what were drinking or was like a thing because
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i've been in you know like i've been in sobriety in and out of sobriety over the past like 10 years
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it's a fucking tough road you know and you try your best i've been in like shit for like uh sex
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love addiction intimacy disorder all of that shit you know i should probably be in like a
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fucking wheelchair or whatever you know and that's real talk man praise god yeah praise god
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no it's but but see how you're healing with it and you're sitting here today doing great things
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in life and people love you and i love you and you're a genius and you're an amazing guy and
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you just like worked through it but you're like honestly healing with it it goes back to like
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comedy yeah that's why you're funny as fuck and you're making fun of yourself and it makes it
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acceptable to your uh traumatized version of yourself so yeah but um i've been in
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dark places as a kid like it's the funny like disney star crash out bankrupt money money money
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bad people around you drugs alcohol party la girls girls girls tip yeah and it just like
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it's like a fucking cycle out there so my my biggest advice to people is
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don't fucking live in la and like go into that ecosystem um because i'm a product of it but it's
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not me i i had to um heal from it and like but it it just was going to happen that way so um
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no matter who goes out there no matter who they are it's not their fault but like they become
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looped into that system and will end up unhappy and most likely addicted to a bunch of shit and
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um yeah it's it's a it's a sad thing chasing validation i met this person at this party i
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want to be famous i met this guy i took a photo with them it's just like a fucking dead end um
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So, um, yeah, I think that energy overall in society is starting to change a little
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I think we're starting to realize that there's not like all this, like collection of moments
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and even items and even finances while we're here, there's not a really, the depth of value
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So, so yes, I, I was at the, um, this summit this past weekend in Montana and I, I was taking a piss next to Jeff Bezos and my, my, uh, my dad always said to me, like, since I was a kid, famous people put their pants on the same way.
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And so I realized like, bro, he's, I love him by the way.
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I can't even imagine what his voice sounds like.
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I just pissed next to Jeffrey and they were like
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did you grab his dick like it's just all a joke
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did you fucking same day deliver that cock you feel me
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Dude, I remember one time I pissed next to fucking Kid Rock, dude.
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And I was like, fuck, I thought I'd made it, dude.
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But it's also funny to, like, these people, like, that are so in the media.
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And I, like, find myself in this category often.
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They have so many ideas about who I am or what I am.
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But like, bro, at the end of the day, we're all fucking humans.
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And like seeing these people like eat, like even just seeing Jeff Bezos eat was just like funny.
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okay so he's what probably also his his wife like i think has a weird like public persona
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um and their whole relationship bro it just goes back to fucking media but she was
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awesome and smart and nice and very intelligent and um i don't know it's just weird how the media
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paints everyone and it's it's actually sad because i even had a preconceived notion of these people
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because it's just like indoctrination and you see enough things where you just like start to
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conform to that idea but then you could just be so wrong yeah oh i i think that that happens a lot
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you know it's easy to get addicted to that too one of the things that i think is most important
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right now is um the the value of our own attention what do we put our attention on you know because
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it's easy to sit there and just absorb all the bullshit and be like here's a picture of Lauren
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Bezos or Jeff Bezos and you know there's just an article and there's no even repercussions for
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anything more it's like she just got her tits done he just got his head done or whatever and
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you're just like okay but you know what I'm saying but most people just we believe it it's like I've
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found myself believing stuff and it's like this is you know I'm sure you've read things about
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yourself that are astronomically outrageous no 100 this is I think the word you said that
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is key is like repercussions like there needs to be some form of punishment for
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invalid commentary on anything yeah um and this is why i started suing people because um
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have you had a lot of nil type like that sort of issues or just people saying stuff people
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mostly like rigged fights and and steroids and fake fights and like this type of thing it's like
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bro do i look like i'm on steroids like no i'm a chubby kid like do do you know how legal it is
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within all of these commissions to rig fights like you guys are actually fucking stupid but
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i can't say that to them and then even when i'm like sitting here now defending myself it it feels
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like they're gonna look at it and be like of course he would say that right um so i'm just
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suing people because that's when the truth comes out is like let's let's go to court yeah let's
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actually look at the documents and see if my fights were rigged and get to the bottom of it
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and i know i'll come out on top because they're not and so yeah and this i'm gonna go delete an
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old tweet as well as you're saying this but uh yeah oh yeah you you did say that thing i was
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like fuck you for a second bro yeah i was actually mad at you i was mad at you but i was mad at you
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for saying that yeah i can't remember why though because i think yeah i think it's exactly what
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you're saying it was like um well let me think about it i don't know exactly what i said but
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it was something like yeah i don't or yeah some actually remember this it was a jab like that
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yeah you did it was a verbal jab like that i'm sorry man don't sue me also please and i will
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take it down but like um but what what it's fine by the way it's fine it's fine but why
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like what was the because i i look at it to be honest as another male who's insecure about me
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being successful trying to take me down hmm let me think about that for just a second let me really
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think about it yeah um yeah why would i say it was probably it was like um it felt like probably
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a bandwagon-y type of thing you know um i'm not using that as an excuse i'm just saying that was
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probably part of it um let me think uh oh yeah it's easy for me now in hindsight yeah it's easy
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for me to like um just say something from here where i'm sitting here i don't have to say it to
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his face i don't have to be around him and say it because i wouldn't i probably i wouldn't do that
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unless i felt like it was a joking environment that was like safe um yeah so those are probably
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the things to be honest with you and and um and i think it would take us longer for me to sit here
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and or you know it took me longer to really probably sit and like kind of think out what
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all the small parts were but those honestly are the things that i'm thinking of off the bat yeah
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no and then uh like appreciate your honesty and candidness around that like and and it's
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it is annoying for me because i fucking work my ass off in the gym like all the fucking time i
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think i mean you came i mean like there was a there was a time where it was like yeah this
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this guy isn't a real fighter these are things that people would say and then there's no there's
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no person now like you disproved but but that's the thing is i could handle the not a real fighter
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because i'm like fuck you haha right i could handle the um like most of the things that people
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said but then when i got so good that people couldn't believe what i was doing that it turned
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to fake fight steroids that really bothered me to be honest um i don't know why like it just like
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seemed like the polar opposite thing that people could say that would disprove it all
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um so it was so far from truth and i think that's why i'm blessed by god and like such a
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uh pivotal person in today's society is because i live by truth and i think that when you do that
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god continues to bless you and i think the the fake fights thing like is so far from the truth
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that it really bothered me yeah i could see that i could see that it would well yeah man i'm sorry
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if i contribute to that bro it's fine it's fine no problem but i'm glad that we're talking about
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this because i do think that it's interesting i think that um yeah i think there's something like
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uh yeah why like yeah why does that kind of like why do we or why have i acted that way why do we
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act like why is you know sometimes it's in just it's getting involved in the conversation but
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yeah, to think that there's not like real repercussions or real like just things that
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happen, feelings that happen. Do you, I think sometimes people, you guys are such good promoters
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over the years, right? And you guys have done a good job of continuing to evolve in entertainment
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and society. Like there's not a lot of people that have a 17 year lifespan in entertainment
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and it may be longer i don't i'm not even sure how old you are it's yeah it's been like 13 years
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yeah i mean to keep that and have a level that is like one of the highest levels in different
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mediums and then also i think people don't know like um i don't know people don't know but it's
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tough to get people to reframe you into something that's different i'm not using those as excuses
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i'm just saying that there could be some of that in there bro i'm not gonna lie like if
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i might have a little if i um like saw me as another like young and up incoming male i would
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like have jealousy of myself and be like fuck this guy he's got a jet and a gold medal fiance
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and The Perfect Life and 6,000 Acre Ranch,
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I just think there could be some of that in there, yeah.
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Is there some of it that keeps a chip on your shoulder?
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i'm not i don't know what i'm motivated by anymore to be honest yeah that's interesting
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i feel that sometimes i think it's i think it goes back to like helping others and like
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community i'm a big fan of marcus aurelius and i mean the biggest thing he just says is like
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your duty to society is the most important thing and so i think that's where i've landed recently
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because i have like everything and um like you have enough for yourself you mean you have what
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you need yeah and and my family and all of that so like i i just go back to like the leader of
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the roman empire should probably listen to what he had to say and one of his biggest sayings is
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i should you know your biggest thing is to be uh a part of society and make it a better place
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so i think that's that's maybe where i'm at um these days one thing that really um kind of like
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at the Olympics. I thought that was really cool,
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guys I think don't probably do a lot of supporting
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um this is awesome bro how are you feeling what was bro so yeah so like honestly um
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yeah it it's uh the greatest moment i've ever witnessed as a human just like everything
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that happened and the way it played out was just nuts and i know how hard she works and
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like how dedicated she is and how much every single day she's putting so much detail into
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And, um, the girl right before her, like two races before set, sorry, set, set the Olympic
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So we were all like looking at each other, like, oh my God, that was a fast time.
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she she might not win right now like what the fuck um and then she just fucking comes out
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and sets the new olympic record and fucking wins um let's go and i could i could tell that
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she was going to win like before everyone else because i like see her times and so that's why
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i was like already crying and i was like i don't cry so there was some more build-up to it it wasn't
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like just that exact moment you could feel it coming on yeah no i could you could see the the
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speed and the times on the on the you know digital board so i knew maybe before anyone else and um
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bro like i'm the one that has to like deal with her stress and problems and thoughts around the
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whole sport on a daily basis so i knew how much it meant to her and yeah it was just like witnessing
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fucking greatness at the highest level in the coolest thing representing her country the dutch
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people were all there screaming like all of it was just beautiful um the dutch are fucking
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aerodynamic dude i've always said that yeah they're very aerodynamic you've been you've been
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long on on the dutch they're tall and they're a lot of them are very aerodynamic pull up a dutch
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man bro just no my pull up a dutch honestly you're just very aerodynamic i'm not gonna look at this
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hold on that guy on the right fucking mr dutch right there and fucking his little dutch dime
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in a heartbeat. You'll be back to Puerto Rico
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what did she tell me I don't know she was always working
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you know she was just always like delivering stuff
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foundation what is it with um cat williams or oh yeah yeah yeah and that that's what i was saying
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like i'm just happy for your mother that she's gonna benefit yeah i'm glad to see mom you're
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gonna get an afternoon off dude yeah yeah so what's the foundation again because with that
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clip in the foundation doesn't have a name yet nobody even knows those are coming out but
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It's benefiting the parents of autistic kids, right?
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And there's other autistic people in my fucking family.
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That was a special time. I'm glad we all got to witness that and that you went there and showed
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up for that. If you didn't have any money, right? If you say you didn't have anything and you had
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to get what would you get your girl for like a white like a present or whatever you think
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i wouldn't i would write her a letter i i think that's still the most meaningful thing that you
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could do um words i think are the most important thing in love and yeah i would just write her a
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letter yeah oh uh yeah i saw that you sat with vance at the olympics vance is cool huh yeah
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ohio guy he's neat to be around yeah no he's super normal bro um god damn he's pulling up
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the photos like that's his fucking job he he's just um just joking trevin sorry um yeah i like
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being around vance he's been on here a couple times do you think he's trying to position
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himself to be that next dog or what do you think i think i think yeah of course like
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he's uh yeah if you're gonna if you're the vice president you're already playing the game
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like play in but he's already balls deep so yeah i think he's gonna jockey for president for sure
00:52:18.620
it's gotta be scary when you're that deep in it yeah it makes it easier when you have like
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15 securities uh around you and people have to get wanded just to talk to you but like
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yeah it's still weird it's still weird bro like it's the weirdest thing in the world um
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do you yeah have you you're playing that you're playing the biggest game of life
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that's fucking true dude and and it's gotten dangerous yeah and and do you want to play that
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and like can you um it's it's it's just really interesting like
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is there room for you in that space i saw something recently with you and trump where
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you guys were like uh kind of flirting or whatever just palling around or whatever yeah we're we're
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flirting he's cute no i saw a thing where you guys and he was giving you a lot of credit i was
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nervous like i was sweating hell and fuck yeah it's got to be a moment like that where you're
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like okay this is kind of wild no yeah like at that point like life didn't make sense i had to
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like call my dad uh um for him to ground me a little bit but even he was like bro what the
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fuck this is the coolest thing in the world um yeah i've been like flirting with the idea of
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politics just because i think it goes back to marcus aurelius of like helping society and
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like what that's the number one thing you can do um and it's become a joke like my my business
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partner jeff woo we have a venture capital fund together bring up jeff bring up woo
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so six years ago he was like you're gonna become the president
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assassinated but i don't want to so um and what would you wear like a you couldn't wear like a
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helmet or something you'd have to have shields and stuff around you probably or just you'd have
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to how crazy would it be if to protect yourself to run you literally had to like almost like i
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wonder if people running in the future like live stream from a bunker do you know i'm saying do
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their things from like a protected space because it's going to get dangerous out there yeah no
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you're a thousand percent right like that they actually probably will like i i yeah like i'm
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even scared just talking about this shit yeah um but i think we're getting to a place where i could
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see something like that happening i could see you running i could see something like that i could
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see like it does take something inside of people i feel like that they feel a sense of a purpose
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and a calling to something and if they can make sure that that's not just attached to their own
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ego and they can make sure that there is a sense of
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not only your life but everyone that you're affiliated with so you're also like signing
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your kids up for it so like i really don't want to do it but like it it's become like a funny joke
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that i would and then randomly trump endorses me fully um which someone texted me that said
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like you'd have to pay him a billion dollars to get that endorsement um and you got it for free
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right there yeah pull it up let me see a little endorsement this is pretty good god is with us
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i know he wants us on the right side of history and everyone here has to do their part and god's
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got us trump's got us god bless love you kentucky
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you did a good job there man that's a fucking tough environment to be in that kind of space
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i mean it would it be something like you would run with advantage i mean do you think it's
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something like that or would you start as mayor of like like northern puerto rico or something
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or do you is there any talks or what is the concept i guess sorry yeah so you're actually
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is like i'm just a fucking kid from ohio that's a high school dropout like
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if it makes sense at some point then it makes sense and that that that was like his job
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and his purpose and all of that yeah um and i loved that but like it you know it if someone
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was like this is like me becoming a world champion in boxing like it makes more sense than
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jake paul becoming president charlie kirk was clearly going to be the the next president so
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thing that right the whole energy that's out there yeah yeah yeah that's a good point that
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somebody did they they there was probably people that didn't want to see that possibly occur they
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didn't want to see that get to the next level or yeah there's a lot of uh investigatorial stuff
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about that you know some people say that it was like a microphone on his lapel that blew up and
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that that's what killed him um and then that microphone was made here in tennessee and then
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two weeks after that the factory was made at blew to smithereens and like 16 people died which is
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just a kind of a crazy like that's one of the wildest kind of like that's one of the most
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interesting theories that i've heard yeah there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there these days
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and i was just with some like bros in minnesota and they were kind of asking me about these
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conspiracy theories because they were like oh he knows more than than i do um i think that a lot of
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it is fucking bullshit and people just want something to like hang on to um i i don't disagree
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on like certain points but you have to be really smart and selective to decipher the conspiracy
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theories that are out there and like realize which ones have like even a little bit of truth
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but why as a society like do we hang on to these so much like conspiracy theories yeah because
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it's like well we love drama as humans basically like we just love fucking bad news and we love
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to like we have it yes this is a fucking problem it is a problem and so conspiracy theories give
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people a reason to fucking gossip and like just it's just like something to do bro people are
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bored well like i've never met a rich person who's doing dope shit in life that gives a fuck
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about any of this shit because they're just have better shit to do that that's the problem is like
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people need to go get a job and have a purpose and um we're at a point though i think where
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people can't trust mainstream media they don't trust it it's it's heavily owned by a couple
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of corporations and so i think that created a lot of this space for um like just outlier
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investigators outlier people asking questions when every you know there's that famous thing
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this this is the problem is all of it has become an entertainment product it's all the wwe i've
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been saying exactly everything is the wwe so so this person who's claiming to tell the truth
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starts to dabble in like a little bit of like fun fun fun because it's gonna get more views i mean
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But the difference is I'm not doing it on things that affect the world.
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And I'm not talking about missiles and Iran and fucking Israel and Charlie Kirk.
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So I'm down to, like, entertain when it's in the entertainment world.
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When it's in politics, like, people shouldn't fuck around.
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And so, like, who is telling the truth these days?
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And I wish you'd think with all this technology or something, there would be able to be, like, a truth filter you could put over something on your phone.
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But then I guess it would be, like, what is the arbiter of the truth?
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Like, it's like a lot of these, like, um, AI models now it's like they have information
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So they're only going to spit out whatever, whatever, you know, like the, the information
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So you're only going to get answers that are based on it.
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Um, one thing that you said that I did want to say that I thought was interesting was
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during the Roman empire, a lot of the, um, the politicians also had to fight on the battlefield.
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So that was one thing that I thought was really amazing about those times where it's like,
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If they were going to make choices that affected the lives of, like, the citizens of the military, of, like, the farmer who was putting down his pitchfork and picking up a sword, like, they had to be out there as leaders as well.
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And I feel like that's where some of your energy comes from.
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Like, if I ever was running for office, I would also be, like, super down to have an AR-15 and fucking shoot these motherfuckers.
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out of a fucking gun and a shield yeah bro like who has that i'm down to die bro i think i put
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that on the line with anthony joshua like i'm down for this shit bro but like you're i think
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you're right it's a that's a really good point actually like trump should be on the front lines
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i don't know if he's old enough yet he might be too tall to be out there too
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I don't know if you send, like, a brother over there.
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you know what i was thinking this let's go dude and welcome to america's last brain cell
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for i'm the yvonne and this is jake paul oh dude what about your freaking mom was trying
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to freaking holler at me is that true what was happening yeah my mom she was married
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she is uh they're in a great relationship i love um i love my mom and and stepdad um
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oh damn am i only gonna get in trouble is this bad and derek is that your stepdad rick derek
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david david i was wondering the other day i was like what is his stepdad's name um
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Philosophically, if a woman is in a relationship for 30 years with a normal guy.
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And then the fucking Mohawk comes out with the Ovan.
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and by done it what do you mean take her out for ice cream
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are you talking about like what are you talking about
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I would have taken her for ice cream out of hetero Murli.
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Bro, if you were my stepdad, I'd be so happy, bro.
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Not in the house or something, but I would let y'all smoke.
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As long as you don't smoke outside of our bedroom window or something while we're trying to rest.
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that was there oh that was my dad and mom but their divorce got it yeah yeah but i don't know
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i think he was like you know you know i'll tell you what not to do you know i think he said some
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stuff like that to me so i think there was like a mix of like energy there but yeah i know and
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she's an author i admire that i know she just came out with a book right yeah fuck the paul
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fuck the pauls fuck the pauls yeah great book by the way for um fuck the pauls i would say like
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mostly um if people have an interest in like fame and navigating it I think it's a good book
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what effect do you think she had over the years on like did she kind of was she ever like an
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orchestrator of things or was she just kind of like somebody who was just supporting in the
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distance like oh because it's interesting how a mom reacts to like I think their son's journey
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through uh popularity and like because that for a while they're just their son and then they're
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kind of like a pseudo sibling or something to everybody um in in a way you know yeah i um
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definitely like supporting from afar um but
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like more recently she's gotten more involved in like knowing who she is and being like fuck you to
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these certain people in my life that aren't good so she's become a more of a protector i think at
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first i was me and my brother were like teaching her um and she's very smart lady but i think it
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was such a new world for her of social media and so i think uh she she always was giving her 100
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percent best effort to help in any way possible and that came across in different ways but i think
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more recently she's she's become um more of a protector and more opinionated and she knows she
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has more confidence in her opinions and i think that's been good for both logan and i do you think
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that you guys as careers have allowed you to see a new side of your mom that you are really that
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makes you like have even some more unique thoughts about her does that make any sense
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no 100% um yeah admire her more or yeah that's what it was is is admiring her more because
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like I was built for this and destined for it and you don't know if your parents are always
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on that same wavelength and i think a lot of celebrities and their parents probably don't
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even get along or talk or are involved like i see a lot of that um and it turns out that she
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was fucking built for this and she's ready for the fire which is gangster and i was like that's
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my fucking mom and that's my freaking wife yeah sorry no that's my first date bro dude i'm just
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saying take us to an award show um but yeah i would take her somewhere nice yeah like what
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restaurant you think or oh i know where i would take her a place that has a golf course but we
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don't play golf we're just gonna go eat there nice watch the rich people come in oh there's tom
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just to get the fucking grapes in my nose, boy.
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what am I, some kind of fucking smut somewhere?
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Bro, I need another whiskey blue raspberry.
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so yeah so ice in the fridge so so oh um but no uh no i think it's i've gotten to know her a little
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bit of the issue by seeing her here and there and i think her i think her energy and i think
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it's something nice when you get a chance in your life to see your mom in a different way
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and i think that's what happened yeah and i think that that's it's almost like a beautiful thing in
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a way you almost get to see just to see somebody grow into something different at some point in
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their life is really special whether that's and it can be in any way but i think this so so yeah
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i could really imagine that that's nice no exactly and and like a lot i've noticed uh a lot of people
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don't change or don't know how to and um evolve and they just like get stuck in their same patterns
01:13:35.540
and especially when they're older because if you've been doing something for 40 or 50 years
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you're gonna like get stuck in that rut um and so to like see her change and actually be able to
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like evolve is is beautiful and i i noticed it with my dad as well he's a little bit
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more behind um but he's doing it and he's doing the work um and that's beautiful that's awesome
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man i think it's cool like whenever like um as a child you get to be a part of something like that
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and see that and like i think there's a lot of like kind of like growth and moments there for
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ourselves and our parents you know uh yeah being a son is an interesting responsibility when you
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realize that it's um not just like one of taking in a way and i don't mean that it just because
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that's how it is when you're you think it's just like this one-way sort of thing um it it is like
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you're like until you're like conscious enough to not take from your parents it really is a one
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way relationship and it's the first one one way relationship in your life do you do you have kids
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or like what's going on no no wife i don't have any kids i'm not dating right now i'm just working
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on myself and uh so it's been like the last year has been kind of tough with just like um
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just staying on track and then i realized i was just kind of putting myself like in the situate
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like just things that uh i wasn't like they weren't like all like rungs on the ladder towards
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my goal you know some of them were fun rungs and things like that but it just wasn't where i needed
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to be and like some of the sobriety has been a little bit tough over the past year so um but
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right now i'm doing better than i've done in a long time and uh and so yeah i feel good about
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that um i need it's hard it is i need to go especially for you in like your position and
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all of those things like people you it's hard to find the right person that doesn't have the
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wrong intentions yeah i feel like i'm a decent judge of that kind of stuff i think um i'm enjoying
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kind of not having to date and do things like that the problem is is you can't judge it until
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how did you know your girl was the right one
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was it like an experience y'all had together or like a thing
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insane and it's gonna break the internet and let's see what happens and then she's just like
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yeah i'm a waitress like do you want a shot like she's not gonna understand the importance of that
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or you or like what right did i think yeah there could be some that but if she goes well i know
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what you're gonna have the black and salmon if she said that as a joke then i would know okay
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maybe this bitch is okay she has at least has a sense of humor so a sense of humor is big for me
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You also don't want to add discomfort to someone's life
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Are the little things that I'm involved in
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when i get back out there um i saw that you and you did you and your father do ayahuasca who did
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it yes yeah i've been there a few times man ayah yeah okay and thank god i mean dude i'll even
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fucking talk to this bitch every now and then once you've done ayahuasca dude you look at a
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house plant way different you're like how are you boys this morning you know huh 10 and 2 you know
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bro i'm not gonna lie bro i've talked to have you talked about this ad nauseum i didn't know if you
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have well about what have you talked about this so much i didn't even know no no no no i talk no
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i'm saying after doing ayahuasca i like grabbed steel sometimes or like aluminum and metal and
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be like talk to it because it's a living object people don't understand that metal is a living
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object so that sounds fucking insane but like it's no different than a plant yeah they're they're
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atoms moving around and so i i actually talk to the items in my house to like give them better
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energy like let me let me boost your spirits today gus i know you're a bookshelf but you don't know
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what you're holding on to you know i'm saying you've got everything you've got uh the crucible
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right here on your back you've got all these freaking god you've got moby dick carrying the
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bible the seven bibles bridges of madison county bro my bookshelf is tired bro yeah you've got
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dunkirk on you gotta talk to it you have no clue what you're doing i like that yeah but to boost up
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your fucking boys who were fucking carrying all your words around i like that i boost up everything
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in my house bro where'd you guys do where'd you guys do it at did somebody come to you i've done
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it like a bunch of times okay um mostly costa rica oh and did your wife go too yes wow
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I did it right outside of a Popeye's over there
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What was like the biggest thing you took away from it then?
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um i remember i mean you went like a deep thing yeah i've there was a point like um
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i remember this feeling that i had when i was a kid that maybe if i was a like um
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if i was a girl that uh i would my parents would love me more that that so i was like
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there was like this weird like like just questioning of who i was or something um
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um i remember that that was like a crazy thought that i had when i was a kid
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um i mean that that's like a comparable thing which goes back to like
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then that they probably probably made you feel compared or some weird shit like i don't know
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how to psychoanalyze all of that no but it was something yeah i just thought like maybe uh like
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they don't see me as i am so maybe it was just a thought that as a kid well maybe if i was a girl
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they would see me it was just but that's kind of a crazy thought that a kid would have and it sucks
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yeah so things like that and you kind of process those like yeah you know you process for like a
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kid feeling those things yep um i think the biggest one for me was uh self-love what it was
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like just like putting the mirror up of like look at yourself and how come you don't love yourself
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sometimes and in a lot of moments i do um but i think that trickles out into a lot of other areas
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of life where um it can not be good um like where it turns into like like between where it turns
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into ego or where it turns into that kind of stuff exactly yeah it's scary yep and just like
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yeah just like even insecurity is a part of self-love and so i've actually like really
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worked on it and gotten so much better at it and i i feel secure now um but i came from a place of
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of insecurity but it takes practice to to get there um and to find that confidence and that
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love and to know who you are and not give a fuck what anyone thinks. Cause I also was like judged
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and in public scrutiny and all of these things since I was like 19. So I think that was the
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biggest thing was, was self-love. Yeah, dude. I feel like it's funny. We were talking about this
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the other day in a meeting and thanks for sharing that with me. Um, we're talking about, did your
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dad say any wild shit while he was in there was he in there fucking capping he was bro he's like
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her name was janet was he just yelling shit in there or whatever bro i literally had to because
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that's great bro to sit there with your with a one of the people that created you and to be on
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that journey that seems wild to me was it like that or was it not like that it just seemed like
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it wasn't it wasn't i had to um i realized the the like sweetest thing about my father is that
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he's a protector and he's a fucking warrior and he was so high off of ayahuasca that he was like
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trying to like figure out where his um fiance was and like protect her and he thought that like
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people were like trying to attack her and there was no one there and he was just like i need to
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get i need to protect i need to do this i need to do this so um he's like installing fucking
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security systems literally he was he turned into fucking secret service um but there he is right
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there yeah there he is drinking soup through his head that got fucking out of his dome bro so it's
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really interesting though like a spoon honky sorry that's my mom driving by just telling me to brush
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about teeth um so so was his mind blown if he'd never done anything like that
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all right so um he had a stroke before this and um before ayahuasca and um
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i've always been into psychedelics because i'm in the sport where you get fucking hit in the head
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and there's science around mushrooms creating neurogenesis
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And so I basically told him at some point to do it
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these things are like actual magic in the world and um people don't understand their significance
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and how profound they are and how much healing can be done and when you talk to these people
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from the Sonoran tribe who are like masters in the toad and that's where they like originated it
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um it cures Parkinson's Alzheimer's all of these things the list goes on and on and on um and
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there's a reason why it's illegal in the united states because of big pharma yeah and etc
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big pharma sucks we can go down that rabbit hole but well there's a law they're trying to pass a
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law right now in uh that they're allowing ibogaine in um in tennessee and uh and they need to pass
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it it's something all these all these plant medicines need to be they need to be approved
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100 now people don't need to be buying them out of a fucking like a one of those like skill crane
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machines or something like that at a pizza hut or whatever you know but but but but it's fucking
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wild that you could just go to any local place here five minutes away and get fucking double
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moscow mule yeah but you can't do something that's actually good for you what does that say
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about our leaders about pharma about insurance all of these things so and there's there's
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no one's ever fucking done toad or mushrooms and like done something bad yeah but you've seen
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hundreds of times where the alcoholic is shooting up a place and killing people and beating his
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wife so like what the fuck are we doing as a society it's it's ass backwards it's sad um
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and i agree i mean i just yeah i think it's awesome that you are such a proponent of that
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man because that's a big thing that's going on right now i think when is that build can you
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look that up for me? The Helping Open Pathways to Effective Treatment Act, HB 2075, is under
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consideration in the 2025-2026 legislative session. The bill would not legalize Ibogaine
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for general use. Instead, it would create a state framework for FDA-supervised clinical trials
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targeting opioid use disorder, co-occurring substance disorders, PTSD, and related brain
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injury conditions funded via a public-private matching grant structure. I'm a proponent of
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that are you a thousand percent amen there you heard that um let's fucking vote let's fucking
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vote vote for toad yeah that's it bro we love frogs um and toads did your relationship with
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your dad change after or no or was it just kind of another okay so that i mean so um there's like
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a really interesting thing that happened to him um when you know the like ayahuasca experts
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they've like seen everything and my dad had a stroke and you could viscerally see a difference
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in how he talked and acted he like wasn't there it was like lights on no one's home
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like 60%, not full on, but it was sad. And I was like, yo, like
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talk to a bunch of people, blah, blah, blah. Let's do ayahuasca. So, um, he basically
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did it. And what the shamans were saying was the, and what they could feel they're experts
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at this shit, by the way. And it's not bullshit. They don't give a fuck, bro. Like they live in
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the middle of the fucking jungle in fucking
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and everyone was worried before it like they were like yo like he's kind of i don't want to
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use the r word right because i would never say read or but like i don't say it no me either i'll
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spray paint it on your wall i'll never say it yeah but i'm not saying in it but he was like
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low-key retard and well that's not even yeah that's fine it brought him back so yeah and imagine
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that dude imagine you just somebody rolls into like a learning disabled class which i was in
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and i was in yeah i was in there for not a long time but i did a little bit of time in there and
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imagine somebody rolls in there one day and the next day that classroom opens up
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and kids can be healed i think there's a lot of healing in this stuff
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related psychedelic evidence right there on this is on perplexity uh dmt ayahuasca's key active
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component is under phase one trials for stroke safety and recovery potential with pre-clinical
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data indicating brain healing via neuroplasticity wow so so this is science right and there's a big
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problem with science and yes it's that everything is like documented and like experiment and like
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measure measure measure and there's a good side of that but
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bro these fucking people have been doing psychedelics for thousands of years and have
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reported studies human to human they're not fucking scientists but they have the
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human to human conversation of like yo this actually worked right um and so that's not
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gonna be on fucking yeah perplexity well it's not some gooner in a lab we're in fucking keds
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who's fucking doing all this shit you know we're talking about real yeah people that are in the
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woods who have been doing they know what's going on exactly it's crazy how we've gotten so far away
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from like all this bullshit like how we got so far away from all these like real healing methods
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that have been alive for thousands of years and then we got into this just like bear monsanto
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fucking bullshit where we're all just addicted to stuff and it's ruining people's lives and then now
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we're getting back out of that i feel like we're getting back out of that faster than ever though
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do you feel that yeah i think i do i do i do and because we trusted our government we trusted that
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these that the epa and fda all these things were taking care of us we but now it's like fuck they're
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making us sick there's a health care that doesn't want to take care of it's like it's it's a it's
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it's been a road yes and like the best thing is that um social media removed the
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barriers for information knowledge um and anyone can say whatever they want and
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it i don't find i know that the truth is like resonating more so people like understand more
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about health psychedelics yeah peptides love relationships authenticity there's a reason why
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like certain celebrities are like falling off is because they're just like oh you're fake as fuck
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we don't like you um so i think it's a good thing it's a great thing um and it almost goes back to
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like freedom of speech but like imagine freedom of speech with marketing behind it
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yeah i think it's like um i do i you can hope that we're in a new revolution of some sort
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you know that's always a nice hope to have i find um dude let's talk about some of these fights dude
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who had the dumbest trunks on that you thought
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you thought you were like this fucking guy
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I'm knocking this guy out just cause of the trunks
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yeah he's the most like vanilla like dumb ass white guy who just like got told what to wear
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bro it's i don't even remember it until you pulled up this photo but like bro he looks like a fucking
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idiot he just wore kind of like um trunks from the um you like you literally just like found him
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at a local store yeah it's he always had this there was always an energy during that where it
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seem like he'd just kind of woken up earlier you know um and blessings to him he's doing much
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better now um dude so what about uh mvp you guys have hosts you guys have um promoted like 30 fights
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now okay you're you're teaching me this information okay thank you um how has that
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been as a promoter how has it been different than you thought it would be what's been like
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what is what is some of the energy going on with that um yeah like we came into the game and um
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this was like i saw boxing as like taxi and we were uber um and it was just like so obvious
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and we operate as like a startup and me and my business partner don't need money who jiwu
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and don't need to do it and that's why our motto is always like fighter first and um
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that's that's actually like very important so when you start there where you like fighter first and
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operate as a startup we like instantly took over and resonated with fighters and are clearly the
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best to work with and make our fighters the most amount of money and give them the highest
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percentage of the fights etc um but on top of that if you like just want to talk analytics like
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coming into the game i have a hundred million followers or something like that wow and the
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second biggest promoter is dana white with like 30 so i'm like three times bigger than him is that
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y'all's biggest competition then is it uh is there another boxing i guess there's zufa there's
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zufa's new yeah they just started and they're already making like a lot of mistakes and are
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are quite quite basic um and yeah like you don't want to pay connor ben 15 million dollars
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to do an easy ass fight against regis um right off rip because your whole ufc model
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is paying fighters like one third of that max and
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do you think it sets a tough precedent for them exactly they already fucked up like bad
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um maybe if they were to like buy us or partner with us they would like have
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such a better outcome which i truly believe could you see a world where your partner i'm
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You would, the amount of money you would spend, like, I don't have an ego, bro.
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Like, you don't, you don't not pay your fighters.
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bro you like you don't get john jones on the white house card first of all
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justin gaethje is gonna lose to ilia on the white house card so you have a spaniard beating
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a white american on the patriotic white house card like okay big mistake first of all second
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of all why are you not gonna pay john jones do you think it was a financial thing with him or
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bro this is like one of the most profitable sports organizations in history their their
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investors have gotten greedy they're in control they um they are looking at the pnls and being
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like yo like we can just keep pumping this shit and they're not they're not they forgot their
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heart as a company that's the problem and so um
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i'm always going to speak the truth and i'm i'm partners with netflix on an mma event so
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well i know you guys have that do you guys have that event coming up but mma hasn't stood the
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tests of time because the best people in the sport become wrestlers and they just like hold on
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what do you mean like CM Punk you mean there's a lot of great fighters in the no Khabib
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Cosmo like oh they become wrestlers I've seen like ground game guys exactly not like WWE guys
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which is boring no one wants to watch that there is a level so it so it hasn't stood the test of
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time yeah boxing has been around since the 1500s mma is 30 years and it's declining and also because
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it's not ran properly and they're becoming greedy and it's like a super corporate organization
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uh where they're signed with paramount they have stockholders it's a part of the wwe
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are you manual public company blah blah blah so when they're paying fighters like 15 percent of
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the revenue by the way down to 10 percent um the investors are going to be like yeah we're going
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to make more money is it money 10 percent do they change it it's it's going down so you're just
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you're assuming that it is the nfl pays their athletes 50 percent of the revenue got it so if
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the nfl makes a billion dollars the athletes make 500 million got it in the ufc it's 150 million
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out of a billion but when you exclude conor mcgregor and john jones from that it becomes like
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five zero like five percent 50 million out of a billion because they make less you mean the
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overall gross is less so then the percentage is less yeah because that number factors in the
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super fights were um i am a ufc fan and i've just enjoyed being associated there i have so much fun
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over there it's such an interesting thing i'm you know some of the business side i don't know about
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but i it does feel like here's what i hear people say the cards have gotten uh not as interesting
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right because there's more cards but you also hear people say that um like my sponsor was saying this
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morning he's saying dude i love that i can just turn on paramount and that the ufc is on there
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every week so i think there's like you know there's different avenues to go down with it and i think
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that sports is paramount like who has that do you have one i don't know exactly yes i don't know if
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i do that's what i'm saying yeah i might i probably do i don't i i think i think i have one but like
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i don't know yeah that's what i mean so but i think like if they were like gun to head gonna
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shoot you log in probably gonna figure out the login bro that's true so that's fucking bro that's
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a great game show dude yeah log in death.com all right today we fucking something you pull him in
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blindfolded he's like motherfucker you got 30 seconds to get into spotify premium everyone
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would die he gets to call his wife you get one call but that person can't look it up
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for ngannu to fight someone else i mean i know that lens is kind of a new uh name to a lot of
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people yeah but he he's he's um uh very good it's it's a more dangerous fight for him than um
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who do we have as the other opponent it should be gunner versus damn bigfoot if i could find him
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people would watch that shit we had a we had a i forget who the fuck it was we had a different name
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um who was a bigger name and easier fight for him so as francis is you know we joke around and
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fight blah blah marketing but like respect to him for for doing this and um it's a very
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challenging fight so uh it's gonna be fun and and diaz versus perry like it's just gangster
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gangster bro we just had uh actually nate diaz on this is before we knew that you were coming on and
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he was on like it hasn't even come out yet but he did talk about this something um pull up the clip
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that he had talked about he talked about some of the fight fights between us yeah he talked about
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a couple of things here let me see what we got in here i'm not fighting for mbp i'm fighting for
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netflix and i'm finding from real fight incorporated which i'll probably be doing next
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with netflix anyway real fight entertainment on a thing and show you how to throw a real
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uh mma fight show i've been in the ufc for 20 years now so i'm like yo i'm gonna do that
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from real fighting with you know i'm not working for a fucking mvp like all these other motherfuckers
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are i'm a ufc fighter i'm working for me for real fighting and i'm hunting jake paul's
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motherfucking ass not taking a fight with a guy who's on the comeback me and fuck connor will
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fight again when the time is right and it's time to fight but it's gonna be when we both on the
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uprise not not when someone's dying out the whole fighting even like paul i feel like i beat ball
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a lot of people felt that way but it was his like big show so it's like okay all right but i know
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what i know from experience i ain't winning no decisions even if i do so watch that fight over
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and don't read the punch count in your own count without somebody else's i won that fight too
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um yeah no i i never say the word i think it's like super offensive um
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i would never say it um when when you see someone that's like it's just hard to like
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comprehend what they're saying and um i'm gonna take like a business
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higher level i'm gonna take the high road okay because he technically is
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working for my company and he's trying to deny it in that clip um and i'll just leave it there
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because i don't care about that i want mma to grow but yes technically like he's he's literally
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with lying i don't work for okay that that's fine bro like whatever your ego wants i'll bend down to
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it for now because mma is going to prosper and you nate should just not lie um and
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yeah fuck like do you think he's lying about the part about him thinking that he won
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like that that's the most bizarre part about it but like i don't have time to address stupidity
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do you because then you give it more momentum um and maybe i'll do it just just this one time but
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Like, the judges said I won every single round.
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So if it was, like, a close fight, that would be a different combo.
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But this guy was, like, easy work, lightest puncher I've ever fought.
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On my mom's life, rest in peace, striker down God,
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Nate Diaz is the lightest and worst puncher I've ever fought.
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and and i think it's a good bout yeah i think i think it's it's high on my list of priorities
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to do that and what's the toughest like kind of uh like barrier to entry to getting that done is
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it just the time it would take to get more prolific in some of that ground game and stuff
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in jiu-jitsu no no it's just the business side got it um he probably wants a certain amount of
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money to take the risk in losing to me um and yeah i just don't give a fuck i have enough money
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i got all my shit so um that that's why these guys are actual ducks is because you can't like
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hide behind money anymore um so yeah i i think i think it's gonna happen though and and if if he
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beats perry then me versus nate is probably the number one thing on the list like above tommy
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fury above francis and ganu above ksi do you think he could beat perry i think he will yeah
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First of all, they're two of like really the most beloved outlier guys that like,
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And they kind of like, they do things their own way.
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I mean, I'm just, I'm trying to evade the question.
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uh what's the program you have with the charity it's the program for the all it's for like uh
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parents parents of autistic children giving them like a day off yeah so like that that's why this
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fight is awesome is like their parents are both gonna get hella days off
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yeah yeah i mean i don't see it but yeah um yeah so you think they're smart like you you would
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classify nate diaz and and mike parry as smart i think and by the way that's secluded from
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autist okay like autistic people are smartest people in the world but like i'm just obviously
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joking but i think you think they're fucking smart i think they got the toughest fucking
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autism that there exists uh i wish i had that touch gloves tism you know that's what i want
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dude um if they were starting a company would you invest in it come on bro that's crazy bro
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that's a crazy thing to act somebody and during the daytime um i'm pretty sure it's like
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i think dude uh i would it depends on what kind of business it was i think oh yeah if it were
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like a dog catching business fuck yeah bro or brain rejuvenation yeah yeah dude i think but
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yeah if it's like yeah doing taxes and shit no no no no it's just fine yeah if it's just fucking
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dude god i gotta get some fucking help that's the number one thing i say to myself every day
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dude is i gotta get some help um rousey karana what do you feel about this bout dude karana's
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been out for a while yeah i think um was it tough to make that the lead bout was there a purpose in
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that like a reason behind it yeah we're we're like proponents for for women mostly like putting them
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on the forefront um and i genuinely like believe that women's boxing is so entertaining um
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they're shorter rounds and they just like fucking go at each other and i think they
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have a chip on their shoulder so it becomes more entertaining than like a 12 round floyd
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versus de la jolla where they're just like fucking tapping each other for 12 rounds and everyone's
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disappointed um so yeah that was that was part of the purpose and um and that's mvpw that was
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part of a group you guys launched yeah we yeah so my comedy is mvp uh and then and then we have
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mvpw which is like women's um that that side of things and were you searching for your fighters
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is how are you going to populate this to have good belts?
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Because a lot of people are under UFC contracts.
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So, like, we have all the best women signed to us.
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that the beautiful thing about it is that um we can make the mega fights happen because we
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know both sides of the party and but will you will will they be able to fight in ufc will
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will people under your banner be able to fight in ufc or netflix's thing if they keep this going
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and it's interesting to see a guy who's fighting
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there's just a lot of stuff to see you be a business guy
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stupid fucking thing to put on my instagram yeah that i think can like summarize me a little bit
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um i think it's like super fucking gay to talk about it but um you want me to read it
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like we might not put this part in okay but like
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it it kind of summarizes what you're saying okay so uh life became unrelatable
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so it's easy to become hateable i live in truth so my views are undebatable life's become
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approvals and payables funny how i was the only one who knew i was capable now anything in life
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is available only because i can't became unbreakable once in a generation beyond occasional
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send all the pressure please God is protecting me I'm gravitational I hope you don't hate and
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use it as motivational but honestly this shit is not sustainable or very attainable
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have to manage it with Ivy League occupational horrid lady over there I post more content than
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you but i'm still untraceable i hate to be cocky but at this point it's educational this is who the
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fuck i am it's not recreational you probably could but if we're being honest you are not capable
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so again that's why i'm hateable is he a politician investor rapper boxer it's unexplainable and
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that's why i'm inescapable so i think that's like what dude i fucking really like that
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i think and you know what yes that's what i was trying to say yeah and it is and it is man
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and you know the sad part about it is that like people are gonna like um clip that and then them
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and but but that's why i'm saying it's like sad that they're gonna clip it and be like bro thought
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he cooked no we're not saying that you are um what's that guy's called ghana or whatever
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we're just saying that you i that you explained exactly what i was thinking and that's yeah and
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i agree that's why that's why i brought it up otherwise i wouldn't have but but but the sad
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part is that people are gonna clip it and be like but people are also freaking touching their own
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dicks all the time so people are disgusting you don't have your own dick jerking off is gay dude
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but it's still a dude bro fuck that now some chick rolls up with a cock maybe i'll help her out you
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feel me blm dude um so you love thailand never been i haven't even looked at i haven't even
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gone there on like one of those like um map zoom in views like view street views or whatever
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do uh your brother just had a child do you get competitive with him like do you start to think
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about that yet or you guys aren't really kicking that can around at the moment
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because once wife got that gold bro you know i'm saying you could hatch something
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and sorry that's just something i read recently on a uh on a headstone in memphis so i was just
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I just mean somebody might have got a gold grill put in
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Has it been interesting to see him be a dad
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like he used to be cool and like kick it and like drink and smoke with us and then
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he just like goes to bed at 10 p.m but honestly bro i'm so happy for him like this is what's
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needed like he's amazing um and he's a great dad it's just like funny because and again i would
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never use the word the r word but like when um he's walking down the beach with his um kid
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and i'm like bro this is my brother like he's fucking retarded and he's like carrying the baby
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down the fucking beach and he like got it on his shoulder i'm like bro what the fuck is going on
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it's just it's just funny um but i'm i'm so happy for him and esme is like the coolest thing
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in the world. And yeah, she, she's like 18 months. And, um, I, I like went to hang out
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with her the other day and like, we don't see each other a lot because we're always
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busy. Logan's traveling. We like whatever. But, um, she's looking at me and I'm like
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It's crazy how something like that, when we first
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it like it was like the first time we were a family it felt like in some ways yeah i would agree
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i i think and and nina by the way is is such a great mom she's doing such a great job and she um
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like sends videos and pictures to us every day oh that's sweet of her and so like shout out to nina
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for for fucking being amazing on that side of things yeah it's nice it keeps you involved
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makes you feel like a part of it that's important yep and they do this thing where it's like outfit
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of the day and like uh esme like loves it and she like knows even though she can't talk really
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she like puts on her outfit and then nina like films her coming out of the room with the outfit
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fucking remodel that bitch. There's no coupon.
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bitch or something. You gotta do something, bro.
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type shit um blessings to them man jake thanks for coming and hanging out dude yep i appreciate
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it bro i've just enjoyed getting to talk to you this is most you and i've ever talked and i i
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think it's like yeah you just get a different concept of people it's hard to know people
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until you talk to them dude brian johnson i thought that that guy was gonna be like
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he was gonna show up like in bubble wrap or something
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fucking drinking his own cum or something bro bro sorry you know he's had a little wait but
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And by the way, what I'm saying is, dude, he was a cool, he was like, just as it just
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like, it's just interesting until you get to know somebody, you're right.
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We live in this place where we assume things based on what we see.
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And some of it's our, some of it's our fault and some of it is a place of where we are.
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Wow, he's supposed to go to bed at 4.30 p.m. anyway.
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So, like, I kind of fucked up the don't die movement.
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