This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #683 - Neil deGrasse Tyson

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00:01:07.120 He's the most famous astrophysicist in the world and maybe in some other worlds.

00:01:13.700 We don't know.

00:01:15.040 You know him from his show Star Talk.

00:01:17.460 He has a new book, Lost in Space, 5,000 Facts for Navigating the Universe.

00:01:24.560 We caught up in his hometown of New York City.

00:01:27.840 I'm grateful for his return.

00:01:29.880 Today's guest is Neil deGrasse Tyson.

00:01:47.460 We got to ship some of this badass out into space, man.

00:01:52.540 That's what I'm saying, dude.

00:01:53.780 Space, you know, it's expensive, though.

00:01:56.360 That's the problem.

00:01:57.240 Yeah.

00:01:57.700 There's more talk than action.

00:02:00.120 No time like the present, man.

00:02:01.860 Neil deGrasse Tyson, good to see you.

00:02:04.420 Thanks for having me back on.

00:02:05.860 Oh, my gosh.

00:02:06.560 It's been a few years.

00:02:07.580 Yeah, it's a pleasure, man.

00:02:08.640 And you're in my town now.

00:02:09.740 Yes, I was going to say.

00:02:10.740 Yeah, we're here in New York City.

00:02:11.920 We had a chauffeur on, and he talked about, he was from the Bronx,

00:02:16.260 and he talked one time about the bronx there you go yeah he was from the bronx and it's i heard

00:02:23.460 there's a lot of asians over there too so from the bronx well not when i was growing up okay yeah

00:02:27.700 yeah well he said that there was a time in the 70s when they used to bring swimming pools over

00:02:32.960 there like a pool like semi trucks uh into his neighborhood i i don't remember that but i do

00:02:39.480 You know that occasionally, if you had a charitable fire department, they would open the fire hydrants.

00:02:48.260 And you can, there are these sort of covers with holes in it, and it would put spray onto the street so that you could play in the street.

00:02:56.720 So they'd crack open the fire hydrants?

00:02:58.100 They'd crack that open.

00:02:59.120 But I'm looking at your images now.

00:03:01.180 No, I don't remember those.

00:03:03.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:03:03.920 And I was in town at that time.

00:03:05.420 Is this in the Bronx?

00:03:07.320 Yeah.

00:03:07.640 That's cool.

00:03:09.080 Yeah, this is the Bronx, it says.

00:03:10.600 This is 1970.

00:03:11.980 Yeah, I'm around. 0.81

00:03:12.860 I'm an old fart, so.

00:03:14.680 But you were barely alive. 0.95

00:03:17.460 You were barely alive.

00:03:19.600 But yeah, I was just, I didn't know if maybe you'd remember that from growing up, you know?

00:03:22.680 Yeah, I mean, hot times in the city, you know, the street gets hot,

00:03:27.400 and it's just hot in the summer, and no one is in school.

00:03:30.480 And so I think it keeps emotions tamped down so that there's no unrest.

00:03:36.760 Yeah. Last thing we want, huh? That's so true. You have a new book, Lost in Space,

00:03:45.120 5,000 Facts for Navigating the Universe.

00:03:48.100 Yeah. It's co-produced between my podcast, StarTalk podcast, and National Geographic Books.

00:03:55.820 It's like our fourth collaboration. It's gorgeous. And it's 5,000 facts in all categories.

00:04:02.920 and it's, but they're not just facts

00:04:06.560 because you can just Google facts.

00:04:08.760 They're start-talkified, a start-talkified fact.

00:04:13.040 So I'll give you an example.

00:04:14.020 All right.

00:04:14.420 Okay, instead, ask me, how big is the sun?

00:04:18.640 How big is the sun?

00:04:19.560 I could say it's 864,000 miles, but you can Google that.

00:04:22.900 Or I can say, take 100 Earths and line them up.

00:04:29.360 That's the width of the sun.

00:04:31.160 Wow, really?

00:04:31.900 Or, if you're hungry, I can say, if the sun were a sesame seed bagel, Earth would be the size of one of the sesame seeds.

00:04:44.660 That big guy.

00:04:45.840 So I'm just saying, the facts are just a little more pop culture infused.

00:04:50.840 I see.

00:04:51.680 A little more pizzazz.

00:04:53.080 Yeah, yeah, just so that you will never forget it.

00:04:56.600 Yeah.

00:04:57.100 Okay?

00:04:57.500 You're not going to forget the sun and the Earth right now.

00:04:59.860 I know they have bagels in Nashville.

00:05:01.060 Yeah, well, also, my brother is deathly allergic to sesame seeds.

00:05:05.920 Well, then there you go.

00:05:07.700 So I'm not going to forget that at all.

00:05:09.360 You're not going to forget that.

00:05:10.340 Dude, I actually, I read in your book that, yeah, I was perusing through it, man.

00:05:14.300 It's like, yeah, it's just an engaging book.

00:05:16.740 Yeah, yeah, you just need to pick it up and open it, and there it is.

00:05:18.800 Open it to wherever you're in, and you're in it.

00:05:20.660 You're in like, you're out in the universe.

00:05:22.460 Yeah.

00:05:22.820 I mean, literally.

00:05:24.420 And one thing that I read in it was that the human brain has 100 times more synaptic connections than there are stars in the Milky Way.

00:05:35.000 And that, I mean, and that blew my mind.

00:05:36.860 Yeah, it's impressive.

00:05:38.840 Yeah.

00:05:39.180 So is our brain more complex than like a galaxy?

00:05:44.000 I would say so.

00:05:45.740 Why can't I say so?

00:05:47.260 I'm going to say so.

00:05:48.660 All the stars are interacting with each other with the force of gravity.

00:05:52.440 but in your brain, there's like chemical reactions,

00:05:56.440 there's electrical reactions,

00:05:58.440 they're being influenced by other reactions

00:06:00.440 that happened before, these are your memories.

00:06:02.440 There's, sometimes you get like an earworm,

00:06:05.440 a song gets in your head, you can't get it out,

00:06:07.440 it's firing all by itself.

00:06:09.440 Or you have these emotions that make you tear up,

00:06:12.440 or bring joy.

00:06:14.440 Yeah, the universe inside your head is surely more complex

00:06:21.440 than the universe itself, which brings the question,

00:06:24.440 how is it possible that the universe

00:06:27.440 can make something more complex than itself?

00:06:31.440 Wow. Is that possible?

00:06:34.440 It has happened.

00:06:36.440 So unless you want to say God did it,

00:06:38.440 but then that's kind of a little bit of a cop-out,

00:06:41.440 because then I'd say, well, who made God?

00:06:42.440 Then you have to say, well, God always was, or God,

00:06:44.440 you have to, I can ask you questions and put you in a place

00:06:48.440 where you're stuck saying something

00:06:50.440 that you just have to assert to be true.

00:06:52.940 And so...

00:06:54.940 But there had to be a beginning.

00:06:56.440 Well, we have a Big Bang,

00:06:57.940 but that pushes the question earlier.

00:06:59.940 But who lit the match, though?

00:07:00.940 Exactly, who it was before the Big Bang.

00:07:02.940 And only in the last couple of decades

00:07:05.940 did we look at our equations

00:07:07.940 that give us the Big Bang,

00:07:09.440 and there's data that support it as well.

00:07:10.940 But you look all the way back,

00:07:12.440 and say, wait a minute,

00:07:13.440 these equations are popping out other universes.

00:07:17.280 So maybe there's not just a universe,

00:07:19.900 maybe there's a multiverse.

00:07:22.080 If there's a multiverse, then our universe

00:07:23.800 is just one of some uncountable number of other universes.

00:07:27.800 So then you have to ask,

00:07:28.880 what was around before the multiverse?

00:07:32.280 And here's another one that's a little bit mind-blowing.

00:07:34.860 You go far enough back, there's Earth,

00:07:36.940 and then the universe.

00:07:38.920 Well then, no, Earth is just one of eight planets

00:07:44.060 around the sun.

00:07:45.920 Well, the sun, there's something special.

00:07:48.240 No, those dots of light in the night sky 0.99

00:07:51.600 are just like the sun, like damn. 0.98

00:07:54.320 The Milky Way galaxy, there it is. 0.97

00:07:57.040 Then Hubble discovers in 1925, 26,

00:08:01.240 there are other galaxies in the universe,

00:08:04.860 just like the Milky Way.

00:08:06.960 So everything we thought there was one of, there isn't.

00:08:10.000 There's countless others among them.

00:08:13.220 but we got one universe, maybe not.

00:08:17.820 Maybe there's a multiverse.

00:08:21.960 Well, if the universe never makes anything in ones,

00:08:26.540 could there be only one multiverse?

00:08:30.160 Okay, is there a network of multiverse?

00:08:34.460 Is it a metaverse?

00:08:36.160 We're running out of adjectives there,

00:08:38.140 But to think about it is humbling.

00:08:43.440 And not enough people are humbled in their life.

00:08:46.900 Some people need a dose of humbling, as far as I can tell.

00:08:49.940 You have to think to be humbled.

00:08:51.940 And a lot of us aren't doing that.

00:08:55.280 You think?

00:08:55.880 You think?

00:08:57.140 And half the time, myself included.

00:09:00.120 Or they act before they think, and then they regret it,

00:09:02.440 or they try to justify it after the fact.

00:09:05.140 Oh, yeah, look.

00:09:06.280 I mean, you've been reading my diary.

00:09:08.140 but um what makes us able to think well if you talk to evolutionary biologists

00:09:16.140 they will which i haven't and i'll let you know that straight up i have so yeah i've been talking

00:09:21.180 to my buddy rick right and he's neither evolutionary nor biologist right well honestly

00:09:27.840 he's been doing duster oh yeah he'll be fine but back to where we are but yeah i'm just saying i

00:09:34.320 I value objective reality.

00:09:36.900 Okay, yeah.

00:09:37.560 And the brain barely works as it is.

00:09:41.820 Right.

00:09:42.380 So to start stirring in chemicals and say,

00:09:44.740 let me do something else with my brain,

00:09:47.380 I don't want to be that far removed

00:09:49.360 from what is objectively true in this world.

00:09:51.580 Oh, yeah.

00:09:52.040 He's been hitting that keyboard cleaner, you know?

00:09:55.020 The dude's got a space bar in his head now, dude.

00:09:58.220 Wait, so what was the question?

00:09:59.560 It was, oh, so evolutionary biologists would say,

00:10:02.680 our thoughts...

00:10:04.320 when they evolved were just sufficient to not die

00:10:10.980 and stay alive long enough to make babies.

00:10:13.320 Like, what do you mean by that?

00:10:14.160 So the first thoughts were just like,

00:10:15.700 okay, I need to stay alive and I need to procreate.

00:10:19.200 If I do not run away from this lion, I will die.

00:10:26.080 Well, okay, let's say you have three kids.

00:10:29.420 One of them said, oh, I wonder what that is

00:10:32.020 rustling in the brush let me go find out it's a lion they get eaten yeah that curiosity is removed

00:10:38.160 from the gene pool okay oh that's a good point yeah and the people say i don't know what that

00:10:42.820 is but i'm a little bit afraid let me go the opposite direction they live another day they

00:10:47.980 have babies so curiosity is not always a good thing for your survival if you're curious about

00:10:54.880 things that could kill you so that's first fact and plus you want to make more of yourself so

00:11:01.520 So sex matters, all right?

00:11:03.360 So these are simple thoughts.

00:11:05.520 And you know that thing where someone throws up

00:11:07.840 and you smell their throw up and you wanna throw up too?

00:11:09.900 Oh yeah, what game is that called?

00:11:11.120 It's one of those challenges I think on TikTok, isn't it?

00:11:13.220 Oh, is it really?

00:11:14.060 Oh, okay.

00:11:14.900 Why wouldn't it be, it's TikTok, right?

00:11:16.580 But there's an evolutionary reason for that.

00:11:19.400 We're a tribe, we're here.

00:11:20.800 You ate something before the rest of us did

00:11:22.960 and you just threw up.

00:11:26.300 I don't wanna eat what you just ate.

00:11:28.360 What's my body's best way to tell me that?

00:11:30.920 I wanna throw up just the way you did.

00:11:33.560 So that triggers, that's a chain reaction in your tribe,

00:11:37.020 back in the cave.

00:11:37.860 So we all throw up and we're all better

00:11:39.780 because it happened to you, okay?

00:11:42.420 And so it's why we react in these ways.

00:11:46.040 So the evolutionary biologists would say,

00:11:48.160 we have thoughts that are for this reason, okay?

00:11:51.380 I'll give one more and I'll bring it into the present.

00:11:54.280 But some of the first thoughts were to keep us surviving.

00:11:58.520 Yes, yes.

00:11:59.360 Okay, got it.

00:12:00.200 Now watch how that unfolds.

00:12:01.580 Okay.

00:12:04.540 Okay, and we care about our tribe.

00:12:07.960 Okay, we all kind of look the same.

00:12:09.980 We smell the same,

00:12:11.220 because we're like eating the same things.

00:12:12.760 We're wearing the same clothing.

00:12:14.280 We're hanging out in the same place on earth.

00:12:16.640 We're buddies.

00:12:17.480 We're buddies, right.

00:12:18.320 It's all of that, okay.

00:12:19.560 Here's another one.

00:12:20.940 You go off and you come back with the food for tonight.

00:12:26.840 The deer.

00:12:27.680 The deer, whatever that is.

00:12:29.320 Yeah.

00:12:30.160 Sack of doves.

00:12:30.980 And I go out and I don't come back with anything,

00:12:32.800 but you come back with the elk, okay?

00:12:36.160 Well, you had some abilities that I didn't. 1.00

00:12:42.920 The women want to have babies with you. 1.00

00:12:47.100 Let me say that more precisely. 1.00

00:12:48.920 We'll say it again.

00:12:52.440 Let me say that more precisely.

00:12:54.960 Those who it didn't matter who they had babies with,

00:12:59.320 If I really have some inability to bring home the bacon 0.79

00:13:02.240 and we start having babies,

00:13:04.660 my offspring doesn't have that ability either.

00:13:06.660 We simply die off.

00:13:08.820 We starve. 0.97

00:13:10.120 Whereas your branch of the tribe thrives.

00:13:13.760 If it's not enough food for everyone,

00:13:15.380 your branch will thrive.

00:13:16.260 So there is evolutionary selection 0.99

00:13:19.460 to favor women who seek out, 0.98

00:13:29.900 we can call it the alpha male,

00:13:31.140 but it's the male who brought back the food.

00:13:33.600 But in the end, you're saying that

00:13:34.740 whoever could think and recognize that.

00:13:37.980 You wouldn't even have to think.

00:13:39.720 Suppose, I don't care who I'm going to want to have babies with,

00:13:42.520 and then we all have babies and none of us can feed ourselves.

00:13:44.780 We simply die.

00:13:46.160 You die, and your gene pool does not propagate.

00:13:51.080 So this behavior that survives this very,

00:14:00.640 you can think of it as an unfair,

00:14:02.280 but it's favoring the fittest.

00:14:04.520 Okay?

00:14:05.680 That's what it does.

00:14:07.120 Evolution is about not only your survival,

00:14:09.380 but the death of everything else

00:14:11.260 that did not fulfill that moment for its survival.

00:14:15.960 Here's my point, all of these things

00:14:20.860 that mattered to our survival back then,

00:14:23.320 in modern days, you just go to the grocery store

00:14:25.380 to bring home food.

00:14:26.220 Yeah.

00:14:27.060 Nobody's bringing home the elk on their back, the deer,

00:14:29.760 and so- 0.97

00:14:30.520 But if a girl sees you with a bag of Takis,

00:14:32.240 she'll pull up.

00:14:33.240 That's what I'm saying is-

00:14:35.360 I mean, y'all not saying.

00:14:37.580 What I'm saying is, these elements in our behavior

00:14:41.840 have been hijacked in modern civilization, okay?

00:14:47.140 So you care not that the person brought home the deer,

00:14:54.180 but they're bigger than life.

00:14:57.520 They're bigger than the other.

00:14:58.620 So what today is bigger than life?

00:15:00.140 Somebody, a movie star, someone famous.

00:15:03.440 Famous people have hijacked that element

00:15:07.580 of our tribal behavior.

00:15:09.640 I see what you're saying.

00:15:10.480 it used to be the person who was able to provide

00:15:12.700 and like the way with like actual, with a skill.

00:15:15.480 A skill and a thing.

00:15:16.500 They're bigger than life.

00:15:17.480 And survive.

00:15:18.180 Today, you don't even need that,

00:15:19.460 but the urge is still there.

00:15:21.220 Right.

00:15:21.560 And famous people are doing that,

00:15:23.680 which is why famous people, you know, it's...

00:15:27.800 Yeah, they get Celsius deals.

00:15:30.780 I mean, if you...

00:15:31.780 Oh, I see what you did there.

00:15:33.800 But no, Celsius is my word.

00:15:35.220 I just want you to know.

00:15:35.880 Okay.

00:15:36.440 It is a temperature scale.

00:15:38.980 Okay.

00:15:39.120 whatever else it is on your show,

00:15:42.500 I'm a scientist, it's a temperature scale.

00:15:44.700 So, but you're saying so that like some of the things

00:15:46.900 that were like inaugural in our-

00:15:49.720 Yes, good word.

00:15:51.080 Our most primal sort of abilities

00:15:54.160 that helped us to survive and advance.

00:15:56.440 Yes.

00:15:56.780 Some of those, and that also were mechanisms

00:16:00.820 to help us to procreate and move forward.

00:16:04.000 Yes.

00:16:04.180 that those have been hijacked by these superficial practices.

00:16:11.400 The urge is still there, even though society has made it irrelevant.

00:16:16.040 It's biologically there.

00:16:18.140 So when I talk about these tribes back then,

00:16:20.400 and you have a little watering hole,

00:16:22.240 wait a minute, somebody's coming over the horizon.

00:16:24.420 Who's that?

00:16:25.380 Well, they smell different.

00:16:26.320 They look different.

00:16:27.620 What?

00:16:27.980 They want my watering hole?

00:16:30.840 That's not going to happen.

00:16:32.100 And so we're going to fight.

00:16:33.740 Okay?

00:16:34.020 That's a survival thing.

00:16:35.740 Today, water comes out of the fricking faucet,

00:16:38.820 but we still have tribal urges.

00:16:42.000 And the tribal urge is out of control.

00:16:46.900 It's like, even when people look alike,

00:16:49.960 they'll still tribalize. 1.00

00:16:51.020 Well, you pray to this God instead of this God. 0.80

00:16:53.320 You look, by the way, the two of you look identical, okay? 0.79

00:16:55.760 Just look at, remember Ireland,

00:16:58.120 we had Catholic Irish and Protestant Irish.

00:17:02.060 They pray to the same God out of the same Bible,

00:17:05.020 but there's two branches and they're fighting each other. 1.00

00:17:07.780 The Shiites and the Sunnis,

00:17:10.780 they're both Muslim, fighting each other. 1.00

00:17:13.380 So it is so deeply within us 1.00

00:17:18.440 that even if we were the same,

00:17:19.960 we would find ways to tribalize against it.

00:17:22.500 We have long hair instead of short hair.

00:17:24.000 You have red hair instead of blonde hair.

00:17:25.520 You can tall instead of short.

00:17:27.800 And if you are all of that,

00:17:30.140 but you found something else to tribalize behind,

00:17:33.060 like where you're born, your skin color,

00:17:36.020 again, who you worship, what's your sexual preference,

00:17:39.880 that becomes a thing, and then people fight over that.

00:17:42.760 So I'm surprised we have survived this long.

00:17:46.320 Oh, you think we're about to hit a cul-de-sac?

00:17:48.580 I'm sad, I'm just sad.

00:17:50.480 Oh, you really?

00:17:51.320 Oh, yeah, yeah, people, it's like they're only happy

00:17:56.260 when they have someone else they can be angry with.

00:17:59.040 How's that so?

00:18:00.380 But do you think it's serving us as humans?

00:18:02.600 No, no, no.

00:18:04.840 Of course, there are more humans now than ever before,

00:18:07.020 so clearly it hasn't hurt us that badly.

00:18:09.820 But as our weapons, the power of our weapons grow,

00:18:15.360 and we still have tribal feelings,

00:18:19.000 it's gonna, I don't think it'll end well.

00:18:21.600 The toughest part, I think, is that the people,

00:18:25.460 the populace, are at a different space

00:18:27.460 and the governments now, but it feels like we're at a place now where it's not even the people that

00:18:33.740 want a lot of that, but it's like we're just sitting here almost like heading wherever the

00:18:38.920 government's going to take us. Which is unfortunate because it's supposed to be a government by the

00:18:41.980 people of the people for the people. I agree. And if it's not that, then I don't know what we mean

00:18:45.900 when we say 250th anniversary of our democracy, you know, and it's people say freedom. It actually

00:18:54.200 was not 250 years of freedom because women didn't vote until like 1920 or something so they were

00:19:02.880 not half the population was not participating in the leadership so what it is for 250 years

00:19:07.980 it's not a democracy and not a it was only a recently a democracy but what it has been

00:19:13.300 is kingless for 250 years and i like that yeah i don't want anyone who by birthright claims they

00:19:21.940 have power over me just because whose vagina they came out of yeah i don't i i'm sorry you got to 0.56

00:19:28.320 earn this you got to show me that you're someone worth following yeah that you've earned my respect 0.97

00:19:34.640 and my loyalty and my devotion and if you haven't done that go home so i i'm proudly say as an

00:19:41.520 american 250 years without a king yeah i don't know how we'll get out of this kind of space

00:19:48.700 that we're in. I don't want to get into like a woe is us kind of space, but it does feel like kind

00:19:53.400 of a scary, it feels like a scary space. Because everyone's fighting all the time. But do you

00:19:57.840 think they're fighting because they want to be? Or do you think a lot of it is that they're being

00:20:01.820 programmed to fight? Yeah. They're only happy if they're fighting. Right. And plus social media

00:20:06.260 is an outrage engine. You go anywhere and say, hey, what are they doing? I hate that. And it

00:20:12.420 It just feeds it.

00:20:13.660 And then you come back for more and advertisers love it.

00:20:16.820 Yeah.

00:20:17.660 They love it. 0.82

00:20:19.140 So it's feeding your tribal urges. 0.84

00:20:23.140 We're a little trapped.

00:20:24.140 And think about advertisers.

00:20:27.180 What do they put in an ad, okay? 0.99

00:20:29.440 They put in someone you want to have sex with 1.00

00:20:31.560 and then you'll do whatever they say 0.97

00:20:33.040 because you want to procreate and make more babies, okay?

00:20:36.600 And you do it because it feels good,

00:20:39.420 But evolutionarily, it kind of had to feel good

00:20:43.800 to make more of you.

00:20:44.620 I mean, otherwise, we'd go extinct pretty quickly.

00:20:46.800 What are you saying?

00:20:49.880 What?

00:20:50.560 What are you talking about?

00:20:51.780 What?

00:20:52.180 What are you saying right now?

00:20:53.120 What am I saying right now?

00:20:54.260 I'm saying that we're being manipulated.

00:20:57.280 Oh, yes.

00:20:57.980 By advertisers.

00:20:59.260 And they know these primal evolutionary urges.

00:21:03.120 And they exploit them.

00:21:04.380 Yes.

00:21:05.180 They've got this spear to a sharp tip, Neil.

00:21:08.300 you know and that is spooky because it's this new sort of survival in a way where it's like

00:21:15.780 it used to be the lion in the woods that you were and now it's sort of this like

00:21:20.020 it's this algorithm it's this black hole for your attention and once your attention is gone and it's

00:21:28.280 not on you and your well-being someone else is manipulating it yeah yeah it's dark yeah so i

00:21:33.660 worry so so if aliens arrived i would ask i wrote a book about aliens too a few months ago yeah like

00:21:41.080 if you've your first encounter with an alien it sets you up for that okay what is it like a how

00:21:46.300 to do like yeah it's a complete like a first date type of yeah yeah yeah yeah so for example if an

00:21:51.700 alien oh yeah um you know lands and walks up to you and there happens to be some appendage sticking

00:21:56.880 out don't grab it and shake it yeah because you don't know what part of the alien that is oh yeah

00:22:02.380 You probably don't want to find out, I'm guessing.

00:22:04.740 That's a space branch.

00:22:06.280 If an alien came down and they had technology that got them here,

00:22:09.480 one of my first questions would be, how did you survive yourselves?

00:22:14.980 Like, what do you mean, yourselves?

00:22:16.520 Yourselves.

00:22:17.920 Their own technology.

00:22:21.020 Right, because we may not.

00:22:22.260 We may not.

00:22:23.060 We may not survive our own technology.

00:22:24.980 And maybe they're all just peace, love, and aliens.

00:22:27.440 Peace, love, and, you know, love, not war.

00:22:29.780 well i mean you know the evil alien trope is so common evil aliens is just one of well that's

00:22:36.020 because i think that that's been how they've been i don't want to say aliens have been pigeonholed

00:22:41.180 but i do feel like they have been yes they have but what do you think we get that i think we get

00:22:46.100 it because they have a more advanced technology obviously because they got here and we haven't

00:22:50.260 visited them at any time humans with more advanced technology have encountered other humans with less

00:22:56.760 technology it has never boded well yeah for the it they've been enslaved killed tortured

00:23:03.480 molested and so i think the evil alien concept is our own fears placed upon them in our

00:23:17.660 storytelling it's a mirror to how we know we would behave in that situation and that's unfair

00:23:26.280 to the aliens because they could just be peace loving aliens for all we know yes i'll tell you

00:23:32.000 what i think the aliens are i think we end up in this space where um you you don't use your body

00:23:39.340 as much anymore right you're uh you're you're on screens you're digital things get technological

00:23:45.640 maybe they put a chip in you or whatever and your body after it's like like eons of non-use and

00:23:52.560 thousands of years of non-use just starts to like turn into this sort of this shape

00:23:56.960 and your eyes which are the things that like you still are pulling information in from and maybe

00:24:02.780 they put a contact lens in that then expands over time and then i believe that we just become the

00:24:08.460 alien so all we're seeing the aliens are just us in the like coming to visit interesting because

00:24:13.620 like an older us because the aliens are hardly ever jacked when they come down the usually thin

00:24:20.080 Yeah, well, they quit lifting weights centuries ago.

00:24:23.600 And here's the crazy part.

00:24:24.840 I think aliens that come here,

00:24:26.140 like if you see an alien ship on Earth,

00:24:30.700 I think it's almost like an alien family somewhere else. 0.85

00:24:33.980 Like the parents took them on like a shitty trip 0.50

00:24:36.320 for like summer or whatever.

00:24:38.040 And it's like they could go to anywhere else in the galaxy 0.99

00:24:40.160 and they're like, fucking mom, we got to go to Earth, you know? 0.98

00:24:43.040 And so that's why we don't even see a lot of them 0.99

00:24:45.020 because it is like some jacked up alien tourist destination.

00:24:48.740 So this is a low attraction point in the book, right?

00:24:54.100 Okay.

00:24:54.440 Unfortunately.

00:24:55.440 I think that that's a possibility.

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00:30:28.460 You know what else?

00:30:30.860 Elon Musk this month might be passing 12,000 satellites in orbit around the Earth.

00:30:36.800 Oh, and you know where they're launching them out of, don't you?

00:30:38.760 Well, they're going to—Florida and Vandenberg, California.

00:30:42.440 Well, Louisiana.

00:30:43.840 Is Louisiana making a bid to launch?

00:30:46.040 Yeah, pull that up.

00:30:46.680 We just got a—I think we just got a big deal down there down in Pecan Island, baby.

00:30:50.420 Is that very—that must be very far south.

00:30:52.640 Yeah, man.

00:30:53.320 It's like, bro, they're going to have dudes down there like, man, they got.

00:30:58.920 Man, you're never going to believe this, shot.

00:31:01.920 They done launched a ship out there, baby.

00:31:04.180 Picon Island.

00:31:05.200 Ten rocket launch pads will be built in Vermilion Parish.

00:31:09.340 Monday, those who hunt and fish in the area share complicated feelings.

00:31:14.040 Wow.

00:31:14.940 Construction on what is slated to be the world's largest rocket launch site

00:31:18.560 is expected to begin in rural Vermilion Parish next year.

00:31:22.220 Those who live, visit, and play nearby

00:31:24.340 have mixed feelings about the development.

00:31:27.580 Pecan Island is the closest residential area

00:31:29.620 to the proposed site of Starbase, Louisiana. 1.00

00:31:33.100 It is made up of, sorry.

00:31:35.860 It's such a crazy dichotomy.

00:31:38.820 It's such a-

00:31:39.320 Well, Texas was in the running for this.

00:31:41.220 But we got that big up.

00:31:42.860 So apparently it landed there.

00:31:45.360 So what's important is that east of the island,

00:31:49.800 I don't know the map, but it's important that there's water east of the launch pad.

00:31:55.440 Really?

00:31:55.800 Why is that?

00:31:56.200 Because as it launches, it wants to orbit the Earth.

00:31:58.400 Typically, it goes east.

00:31:59.740 If something bad happens and it blows up, it then falls in the water, not on residential

00:32:04.060 property.

00:32:05.280 Oh, yeah, bro.

00:32:06.200 They got a lot of boats.

00:32:07.920 They got people sleeping on each other's backs down there, baby.

00:32:11.240 Well, then they got something to look at at night.

00:32:13.080 But launches, there's nothing like a rocket launch.

00:32:15.500 Let me just tell you.

00:32:16.320 They never get old. 1.00

00:32:17.140 They ain't here to have Boosie written on them bitches. 1.00

00:32:19.000 which is going to be... 1.00

00:32:20.340 Let's see.

00:32:21.720 Pecan Island is made up of mostly hunting and fishing camps

00:32:24.360 with about 100 permanent residents.

00:32:27.100 SpaceX plans to use the site to support thousands of Starship flights a year.

00:32:31.540 There will be five launch facilities with two launch pads each.

00:32:37.600 How many shuttles will go up a day?

00:32:39.240 Does it say?

00:32:40.120 Well, I mean, so right now, I mean, Starship carries people.

00:32:44.280 He's got his Falcon launch, you know, hundreds a year.

00:32:47.780 so every few days there's a launch and it's going to be people on it starship is designed for people

00:32:52.620 but um so it could that could be where he launches people to go to the moon who knows

00:32:59.160 what the future that's going to look like bro so here's what happened in huntsville alabama

00:33:04.640 when the government says we got to compete with the ruskies because they're gonna they they got

00:33:10.520 german rocket engineers we got warner von braun let's build a rocket dude they put him in huntsville 0.94

00:33:15.620 alabama rocket city well not yet it's some backwoods place in the south and he says i need

00:33:22.500 engineers i need mathematicians and so people moved there and they didn't want to send their

00:33:26.980 kids to the local schools they built new schools industries followed it and that section of alabama

00:33:33.580 is like it landed from space it's a it's a high tech corridor in alabama unlike other areas of

00:33:42.120 Alabama so that would completely change the economy of southern Louisiana oh it's gonna be

00:33:47.140 wild down there man yeah I'll have definitely unique style rockets you probably have a pecan

00:33:51.280 crusted rocket you know a little bit of a little bit of crawfish I'm on rocket they're gonna have

00:33:58.820 it all down I haven't had crawfish in a long time it's gonna be beautiful but I'll say this if they

00:34:02.520 just let strangers jump on them rockets bro you gonna have there won't be strangers after they

00:34:07.360 pay 10 million dollars i mean if it's tourists it's still really expensive but they're gonna

00:34:12.360 have like a you know something for lower income they'll probably have like oh no no see that's 0.99

00:34:17.060 how you do a lower income they're gonna have an ebt seat on that bitch you know that here's what 1.00

00:34:21.300 you do when for low income you just have a lottery and everyone pays 10 bucks for a ticket 1.00

00:34:27.380 you saw enough tickets somebody wins that lottery and they go up and they don't have to be rich for 0.97

00:34:32.540 that oh shit robo show gonna be on that rocket sermon gonna be on that rocket that'll work 0.54

00:34:40.460 that's gonna be amazing dude um by the way i don't mind going to rocket but it depends on where 0.97

00:34:45.200 where it's headed okay i don't want to boldly go where hundreds have gone before send me somewhere

00:34:50.740 moon mars beyond i'm signed up have you ever been offered to go to space uh i was no actually no

00:34:58.200 But, and space, what people say space,

00:35:01.880 is, you know, you got the Bezos, Branson,

00:35:04.380 billionaire boys space race,

00:35:06.540 but they just go up and fall back to Earth.

00:35:09.300 The whole trip is within 30 minutes.

00:35:11.560 They don't go into orbit.

00:35:12.660 But they go above this magical place

00:35:14.320 called the Karman Line,

00:35:15.600 where if you go above that level of the atmosphere,

00:35:18.280 then daytime sky turns dark

00:35:21.760 because there's not enough air to turn blue.

00:35:24.320 And so they call that the Karman Line.

00:35:26.000 So if you go above that,

00:35:27.340 you're classified as an astronaut.

00:35:29.100 And I'm just saying, I'm an astrophysicist.

00:35:32.320 If you're gonna send me into space, send me somewhere.

00:35:34.720 And if, I don't know if you knew that,

00:35:36.960 take Earth and shrink it down to a schoolroom globe.

00:35:39.500 You can ask, how high up did they go?

00:35:41.320 Down to a schoolroom globe?

00:35:42.360 Yeah, so here's Earth, a schoolroom globe.

00:35:44.120 How high up is the space station?

00:35:46.380 Okay.

00:35:47.220 Space station is less than a half an inch above the surface.

00:35:51.780 Okay.

00:35:52.620 And then the Bezos-Branson trip,

00:35:55.600 They're the thickness of two dimes above Earth's surface.

00:35:59.520 You remember that crazy dude that jumped out

00:36:01.420 of a balloon for Red Bull, Felix Baumgartner?

00:36:04.540 Yes.

00:36:05.380 Okay, a few years back.

00:36:06.780 His balloon, he died recently, by the way,

00:36:09.020 doing one of these stunts. 0.99

00:36:10.540 Damn, it's tough. 0.99

00:36:11.380 Oh, I pee. 0.99

00:36:12.220 Yeah, he jumped the thickness of one dime above the Earth.

00:36:15.840 So none of this is really going anywhere

00:36:19.400 for me, an astrophysicist.

00:36:21.300 Send me somewhere, moon, Mars, and beyond, and I'm good.

00:36:23.600 And if Elon says, ride one of my rockets, I'll say, Elon, I want you to fly your mother first and bring her back safely.

00:36:32.400 Yeah.

00:36:32.940 Then I'll go.

00:36:33.680 That's fair.

00:36:34.300 Yeah, that's fair.

00:36:35.000 That's totally fair.

00:36:35.560 I think that's very fair.

00:36:36.640 You got to mom test it.

00:36:38.280 Yeah.

00:36:38.880 But surely someone's reached out and offered you, said.

00:36:42.080 Oh, so I was once given an opportunity to ride in the Vomit Comet.

00:36:45.880 You know, there's a plane that goes up and falls back down in your wait list for a little bit of time.

00:36:50.400 Pepsi was going to offer me a spot.

00:36:51.960 but I had to wear a Pepsi jumpsuit

00:36:55.480 and because they were advertising zero calorie Pepsi

00:36:59.780 and this was a zero gravity ride

00:37:02.500 and I could be photographed and end up in an ad

00:37:05.240 and I say, it ain't worth that much to me.

00:37:08.360 I ain't giving my, so no, so I haven't.

00:37:11.320 But have Katy Perry and those people,

00:37:12.940 have they actually been in space

00:37:13.760 or they've just been above the Carmen line?

00:37:15.340 Well, that's-

00:37:16.120 And so technically they have.

00:37:17.320 Technically they've been in space.

00:37:18.280 Katy's been in space

00:37:19.140 and I thought they got a bad rap on that.

00:37:21.960 People cashed on that launch. 0.59

00:37:25.720 And, well, Katie, she's got a new album out

00:37:27.080 and they all want to make sure they're pretty

00:37:28.200 with their makeup and everything.

00:37:29.460 And I'm thinking, chill, first of all.

00:37:31.600 When planes were invented,

00:37:34.060 the first people to go were famous and rich people.

00:37:37.140 Yeah.

00:37:38.040 And the press wrote about it.

00:37:40.300 And I'm saying, this is kind of interesting.

00:37:42.080 Let's keep doing this.

00:37:43.660 And the industry grew till it became its own thing.

00:37:48.060 And so the aviation industry was birthed

00:37:50.620 in exactly the same way.

00:37:51.960 I see.

00:37:52.380 So you got to use celebrities to advertise it.

00:37:54.120 Yes.

00:37:54.520 But I think here's the thing.

00:37:56.100 Like you're saying, it didn't make sense in anybody's mind.

00:37:58.980 Like I can't even get from here to Hoboken in a half hour, dude.

00:38:06.240 That'd be hard.

00:38:06.900 Right?

00:38:07.240 I'm not going to think they can get to space and come right back.

00:38:09.880 And then it kind of looked bizarre.

00:38:11.560 And then they like over there, like the door was kind of open.

00:38:14.420 There was a lot of stuff that didn't, they didn't help throwing calls.

00:38:17.900 Oh, okay.

00:38:18.600 Well, I'm just saying celebrities in space.

00:38:21.140 That's where I drew the line, and there they are.

00:38:23.220 Yeah.

00:38:23.480 And the fact that we're talking about it now is evidence.

00:38:26.200 That's your point.

00:38:27.040 Even if you're, you know.

00:38:28.720 Yeah, if it's just an advertising thing, then yes.

00:38:30.700 Yeah.

00:38:31.180 Right. 0.99

00:38:31.420 Even if you're going to be a dick about it, you're still talking about it. 0.98

00:38:33.980 But that's brave of those people to just be like, 0.78

00:38:36.620 I'm going to trust this thing is going to make it into space and come back.

00:38:39.880 And then come back and land safely.

00:38:41.840 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:43.160 Like I said, if I'm going to put my life at risk in that way,

00:38:45.300 I want to go farther.

00:38:46.640 Give me something, a place to go.

00:38:48.080 Who would you take into space with?

00:38:49.420 I'll bring family.

00:38:50.860 if they agree i don't say degree you bring family for two days oh oh okay i see what your point

00:38:58.160 okay ain't nobody bringing family to space bro hey bro you don't bring sand to the solar system

00:39:05.920 cup you feel me okay i get it okay but so you want to bring like you know your who your boys

00:39:13.000 you hang out with you know they're just yeah who would you bring like if you had to bring kind of

00:39:16.240 like a little gang up to space who do you go yeah i don't i haven't thought about that okay i hadn't

00:39:20.440 thought because that would mean i'd be focusing on them when i'm really focusing on the universe

00:39:23.760 that's fair yeah that's all i'm saying so maybe bring yeah i'm trying to think yeah it's actually

00:39:29.240 a good question because you might it might take your energy you know what i'd want to bring

00:39:32.060 a poet and a comedian i'd bring you because because you you look around and you say some 0.94

00:39:40.900 funny shit there's a this there's some funny stuff to be experienced oh yeah saturn looking 0.74

00:39:49.040 No, I highly value the lens through which comedians observe the world, 0.96

00:39:57.480 especially if it's a world you have not seen before.

00:40:01.460 So you know what happens?

00:40:02.340 Everything up there comes through your lens,

00:40:06.100 and you're going to think about it in the context of all of your life

00:40:09.520 and all the crazy people you grew up with and all the stories you tell.

00:40:13.760 That's going to happen through this lens,

00:40:15.580 and that'll keep me entertained the whole way.

00:40:17.520 Oh, thanks, bro.

00:40:18.820 Yeah, that'd be cool to be up there.

00:40:19.940 And then I will bring Duncan Trussell.

00:40:23.220 Do you know him?

00:40:23.800 No.

00:40:24.580 He's an amazing comedian.

00:40:26.720 So I would bring him, and he has a great mind that loves to think about, like, unique stuff.

00:40:32.980 Okay, weird stuff.

00:40:34.020 Yeah, you need a mind like that, that thinks outside of any other parameters.

00:40:39.920 He is a poet of sorts as well.

00:40:42.280 And then, low key, I bring a couple.

00:40:45.920 little space candy you feel me bro okay and you know that's between us but

00:40:55.200 well something you need to know yeah i'm duty bound to alert you of this um i bring a couple

00:41:03.460 ladies that's what i'm saying i get that okay i did so much you think it was drugs i totally

00:41:07.000 understood okay and which leads me to say i'm bringing a little bit of drugs that

00:41:11.300 In space, you might not need them 1.00

00:41:16.260 because you're as high as fuck in space. 1.00

00:41:19.140 You're lying. 1.00

00:41:19.820 No, no, I'm just saying you are in space.

00:41:21.780 Oh, yeah.

00:41:22.080 Usually on Earth, you say,

00:41:23.820 I want to escape my moment here and float somewhere else.

00:41:26.600 You are literally floating in space.

00:41:30.260 And you're going to say,

00:41:30.740 I need drugs to now transcend that?

00:41:32.880 That's a waste of drugs.

00:41:34.180 Lead to drugs for people still on Earth, A.

00:41:36.400 B, if you bring in some arm candy,

00:41:40.500 I'm duty-bound as a physicist to tell you 0.83

00:41:43.000 that sex in space is very different to execute. 1.00

00:41:50.240 I'm into some shit. 1.00

00:41:51.340 I'm just saying, most things you do on Earth while having sex, 1.00

00:41:57.440 you would careen and bounce off the back walls of the spaceship

00:42:02.360 if you're in zero G. 1.00

00:42:04.520 What about even oral sex? 0.99

00:42:06.180 Is that possible in space? 0.99

00:42:08.580 Yeah.

00:42:09.580 Okay, good.

00:42:10.420 But what I'm saying, but you're floating.

00:42:12.160 And so, you know, on earth,

00:42:14.620 you're in the same place at the same time.

00:42:16.500 In space, you'd have to be strapped down, is my point.

00:42:19.660 So you have to bring kind of straps with you.

00:42:21.400 You have to-

00:42:22.240 That's the way you said that.

00:42:24.680 Or you have to bring something.

00:42:27.760 Oh, I have to bring straps?

00:42:28.720 Yeah, I would've done that anyway.

00:42:30.980 You gotta, I mean, I'm just saying like-

00:42:32.800 Yeah, you have to strap because on earth,

00:42:37.220 you're assuming the person is there

00:42:38.800 every time you're in body contact.

00:42:40.680 Oh, I see.

00:42:41.140 But in space, in zero G,

00:42:42.700 body contact sends someone careening off the wall.

00:42:45.760 So you, say if you were engaging

00:42:47.820 in some type of sexual activity

00:42:49.540 and you, and one person was to kind of like

00:42:52.000 pressure their body

00:42:53.460 or thrust their body against someone else's body.

00:42:55.880 They're going to bounce off and hit the wall.

00:42:57.720 It's just, you have to rethink all the moves

00:43:00.660 and all the motion and all the positions.

00:43:03.560 That's all I'm saying.

00:43:04.780 If you're going to bring the candy, there it is.

00:43:08.840 I'm bringing you a piece, cut.

00:43:10.020 No, I'm just kidding.

00:43:14.600 But it's good, dog.

00:43:17.080 Dude, yeah, thanks for thinking about this with me, man.

00:43:21.160 It's just physics at that level.

00:43:22.900 Yeah.

00:43:23.200 That's all it is.

00:43:23.700 But also it takes you, you know, it makes you,

00:43:26.360 I'll just tell you this immediately right now,

00:43:28.240 we just had a lot of people who aren't going to want to be astronauts.

00:43:31.720 I'll tell you that, bro.

00:43:34.100 Also, if you're sick to the stomach,

00:43:37.860 okay, you ever either been in a roller coaster

00:43:40.140 or driving on a country road

00:43:42.420 and there's like a short hill

00:43:44.860 and you come down off it,

00:43:45.740 you feel a little thing in there?

00:43:48.280 Well, that's because you're sort of weightless

00:43:50.920 going over the hill

00:43:51.800 because you go up and then it falls right back down

00:43:54.000 and your organs are not accustomed to that.

00:43:57.020 So that happens a lot there?

00:43:58.140 In space, it's the entire feeling.

00:44:00.680 Nuh-uh.

00:44:01.220 Yes, and you have to just get used to that.

00:44:03.240 And until you get used to that, you are throwing up.

00:44:05.960 And so the last thing you want to do is vomit in zero G.

00:44:10.360 It's bad enough when you see the splatter pattern

00:44:12.440 on the outside of bars, you know, that's bad enough.

00:44:16.700 You say, you know, who?

00:44:18.120 Oh yeah, that little bush light Rorschach.

00:44:19.880 Right, yeah, it's a Rorschach.

00:44:21.120 The vomit Rorschach outside of bars.

00:44:23.380 So in space, there's no Rorschach

00:44:25.640 because it doesn't fall down.

00:44:26.960 It just goes everywhere and it gets in your hair

00:44:29.480 and in the vents and everything.

00:44:31.240 unless you got a bag to barf into.

00:44:36.060 And you have to make sure that it has forward velocity

00:44:39.380 so that it gets into the bag.

00:44:41.700 It can't just come up into your mouth

00:44:43.200 because then it wouldn't know where else to go.

00:44:45.660 So it could hypothetically be pumped,

00:44:47.820 but like your stomach-

00:44:48.680 Oh yeah, your stomach pumps.

00:44:50.540 Can convulse it enough to get it to your mouth

00:44:52.920 and then you would have to spit it out?

00:44:54.640 They call it reverse peristalsis, they call it.

00:44:56.880 Where all your digestive organs,

00:44:59.060 it says, I got to get this out of here.

00:45:01.280 And by the way, think about it.

00:45:02.320 When you're throwing up, it's going against gravity to begin with.

00:45:05.320 It was in your stomach, and now it's here.

00:45:07.840 So you were already working against gravity.

00:45:09.960 So in zero-G, you would have no trouble doing that.

00:45:12.560 I'm just saying you want it to have some projectile velocity to get into the bag.

00:45:18.360 Oh, for sure.

00:45:18.920 Otherwise, it'll just kind of hang out all around your face.

00:45:21.940 Just things to think about.

00:45:23.680 Because you're thinking about going into space, dude.

00:45:26.020 Well, you're making me think about it.

00:45:28.680 That's what I said.

00:45:29.260 I would take you.

00:45:29.800 That's why.

00:45:30.180 You think I'm not going to think about it when you walk in the room?

00:45:33.680 What are you talking about?

00:45:35.240 And let me reassert, they're comedians I love, but they come more from my life experience.

00:45:40.280 And it's fun if they say something that I might have thought of.

00:45:43.200 But I'm going to tell you, you have a completely different life experience than I ever had or dreamt of.

00:45:48.980 And I value that.

00:45:50.060 Aw, thank you, Neil.

00:45:51.380 Well, I appreciate it.

00:45:52.200 Same about you, dude.

00:45:53.140 I feel lucky to be able to talk with you today.

00:45:54.800 No, well, you're in my town.

00:45:55.920 I can't let you come through town without me finding you.

00:45:58.280 And that's the truth.

00:45:59.040 I appreciate it, man.

00:46:00.540 I really do.

00:46:01.680 Yeah, this is fun, dude.

00:46:03.020 I'll say this.

00:46:03.640 You make communicating fun.

00:46:05.580 Oh, well, thank you.

00:46:06.860 Yeah, you know, I thought about it.

00:46:09.820 If there's a professor at the front of a class and they're like writing on the chalkboard

00:46:13.640 or whatever the board is made of these days, they're expecting you to meet them at the

00:46:18.920 chalkboard.

00:46:19.760 They don't care how you learn.

00:46:23.540 They're just putting it out there.

00:46:24.700 So they're being a professor, but they're not being an educator.

00:46:29.040 okay they're not being a community an educator communicator turns around looks at their audience

00:46:33.820 and wonders how is your brain wired for thought for learning and i'm going to shape my information

00:46:40.200 to reach in there so i can access everybody in the room and i'm going to meet you 90 of the way

00:46:47.360 to where you are and that's more effort otherwise you're just putting stuff up and leaving oh no

00:46:52.820 it's more effort so thank you for noticing that yeah i see the shapes you're making daddy i see

00:46:57.700 it. I love it. I love it, man. I read actually in your book, I said, I read somewhere that you

00:47:03.480 can't even smell in space. Is that true? Yeah. So space- Tell me a little bit more about space.

00:47:08.620 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Space, there's no, you know, the molecules are very sparse. Okay. It's the

00:47:15.000 world's best vacuum. Okay. And so when you smell, you are inhaling molecules that connect to your

00:47:21.580 olfactory glands and they connect in ways that give you a taste, give you a smell. I mean,

00:47:27.120 They're all related.

00:47:28.560 So if I smell something,

00:47:29.540 it's actually a molecule that lands inside.

00:47:31.200 Yes, yes.

00:47:32.120 And that sets off the senses.

00:47:33.080 Or if you taste something,

00:47:33.860 it's a molecule that attaches to your taste buds.

00:47:36.080 Same phenomenon.

00:47:37.340 Got it.

00:47:38.180 Now here's something interesting.

00:47:39.720 Some molecules twist this way,

00:47:41.880 and other molecules twist the other way.

00:47:45.260 I know which ones twist the other way, Kurt.

00:47:47.300 What?

00:47:48.140 You know what I'm talking about?

00:47:51.000 So watch.

00:47:51.840 I know a couple of them boys.

00:47:53.060 So, the molecule that gives you the flavor of mint

00:48:00.840 twists, it's exactly the same molecule,

00:48:04.040 except in space it twists the opposite way

00:48:06.960 from the molecule that gives you the flavor of caraway.

00:48:11.500 What is caraway?

00:48:12.340 Caraway, that's the seed that's in rye bread.

00:48:15.160 Okay.

00:48:16.000 So caraway and mint,

00:48:17.620 if you write down the chemical equation, it's identical.

00:48:20.520 But if you build them, they turn in opposite directions.

00:48:24.420 And so that tells you that it's not just the chemical,

00:48:27.840 it's how it's configured so that it attaches

00:48:30.240 to your taste buds.

00:48:31.740 And in one way you taste mint,

00:48:33.580 the other way you taste this, it's a caraway seed thing.

00:48:36.700 Yeah, I think it's caraway.

00:48:38.220 So it's just because of the way that it moves,

00:48:40.400 that the taste-

00:48:41.240 It's the way that it attaches the configuration

00:48:44.660 of the molecule to the configuration of your taste buds.

00:48:47.200 Wow.

00:48:48.460 If it can lock in, then you'll taste it.

00:48:50.700 Otherwise, it goes right on by.

00:48:52.020 Do you remember, you're old enough to remember,

00:48:53.980 there was this thing that Lay's potato chip,

00:48:58.460 did they invent it?

00:48:59.380 It's called Olestra.

00:49:00.580 Oh, I remember that.

00:49:01.420 Do you remember Olestra?

00:49:02.580 Bro, remember that?

00:49:04.260 Do you remember Olestra?

00:49:05.180 The booty chip, they called it.

00:49:06.700 Exactly!

00:49:07.540 So it's oil, and they fry the chips in this oil, 0.80

00:49:13.540 But that oil, we don't have enzymes to digest that molecule.

00:49:22.540 Man, Neil, man.

00:49:23.540 People couldn't handle it.

00:49:26.540 The flavor of the oil, but you can't digest it.

00:49:30.540 So it does not get pulled into your body.

00:49:33.540 It moves through your intestines.

00:49:35.540 Man, people was doo-dooing everywhere.

00:49:37.540 So on the bag of chips, it said,

00:49:42.540 Don't eat too much. 0.99

00:49:44.580 It may cause anal leakage. 0.97

00:49:47.440 First time ever, those words were on a bag of potato chips. 0.92

00:49:50.980 And the FDA approved it. 0.98

00:49:53.740 Well, it also has anal leakage. 0.98

00:49:55.880 What? 0.93

00:49:56.400 So my point is, that is something that did not configure to our ability to digest it.

00:50:06.260 We didn't have the enzymes for it.

00:50:07.540 So it just went right on through.

00:50:08.660 I just want to see you. 1.00

00:50:09.620 Elestra may cause abdominal cramping and loose stools.

00:50:12.640 Elestra inhibits the absorption of some vitamins and other nutrients.

00:50:16.700 Abdominal cramping, yeah.

00:50:18.180 Yeah, you may remember them as wow chips, Frito-Lay.

00:50:21.940 They used them in there.

00:50:24.040 Used Elestra in versions of Lay's, Ruffles, Doritos, and Tostitos.

00:50:28.680 Pringles also had light fat-free version using the ingredient.

00:50:31.560 A serving of wow chips was marketed as having about half the calorie of standard chips and no fat.

00:50:37.020 But it didn't have fat because I think it just ran right through your body, so it didn't even...

00:50:41.440 Well, but it's fat that you could not digest.

00:50:43.420 Right.

00:50:43.760 So normally, what happens if you eat fat and you eat it, it becomes your fat or a source of energy for you.

00:50:50.400 We could not interact with it chemically.

00:50:52.480 Oh, yeah.

00:50:53.040 So we are a sack of chemicals that either do or do not interact with what we put in our mouth or what we smell or what we taste.

00:51:02.880 So I'm just saying, there are people who say,

00:51:06.600 I don't like food that has chemicals in it.

00:51:08.900 Everything is chemicals.

00:51:10.400 You are chemicals.

00:51:12.620 Have you ever seen the list of medicines at a pharmacy?

00:51:16.820 There's a book called the PDR, Physician's Description.

00:51:20.000 It's this thick.

00:51:21.120 Okay.

00:51:21.640 The four inches thick.

00:51:22.520 It's filled with all the medicines that exist that we take.

00:51:25.800 Yeah.

00:51:26.180 Why do they work at all?

00:51:27.240 Because we are sacks of chemistry, and so are these medicines.

00:51:30.320 There it is.

00:51:31.140 Got it.

00:51:32.240 And we didn't start living longer until we figured that out.

00:51:35.640 Well, but we don't know that necessarily.

00:51:37.640 No, I'm going to tell you.

00:51:38.200 I'm going to tell you.

00:51:39.060 We don't know if that's true now.

00:51:39.960 Yeah, I'm going to tell you.

00:51:42.980 Sorry.

00:51:43.660 No, it's fine, dude.

00:51:44.600 It was fun doing that.

00:51:45.680 No, it's good.

00:51:46.500 We're having a good time.

00:51:46.980 Okay, cavemen.

00:51:48.080 We don't know that because there's stories in the Bible

00:51:50.960 where they say people lived 1,000 years.

00:51:53.400 No, not 1,000.

00:51:56.760 The oldest was, who was it?

00:51:59.080 Lived 969 years.

00:52:00.560 Well, come on, man.

00:52:02.240 You know what I'm saying, bro?

00:52:05.140 Yeah.

00:52:06.160 Methuselah lived 969 years.

00:52:08.620 Methuselah, dang.

00:52:09.940 Shorty was trying to meet somebody.

00:52:12.020 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:13.240 So Noah was, I think, 700-something.

00:52:16.520 Yeah, everybody back then, yeah, look at those ages.

00:52:18.940 So they were living, bro.

00:52:20.060 Oh, Noah, 950, yeah.

00:52:21.560 But also, they only had a few people, so they had to stay alive.

00:52:24.780 Oh, is that how that works?

00:52:26.380 I would guess, right?

00:52:27.240 So I think people started living normal, quote, normal age, biblical normal ages after Noah.

00:52:34.800 That's when the ages came back down.

00:52:36.720 Yeah, once the pets showed up, people were like, we can chill, you know?

00:52:39.580 But if you look at, like, the archaeological records, which are not what's in the Bible,

00:52:45.180 half of everyone born in cavemen days were dead before they were 30, okay?

00:52:51.620 Fast forward to 1840, 1850.

00:52:55.660 Half of everyone born in the world was dead before they were 35.

00:53:01.020 That's 10, 20,000 years.

00:53:03.720 And you know, everyone over that time drank clear water, breathed pure air.

00:53:11.620 They ate organic.

00:53:13.540 Right.

00:53:15.200 Because sometimes we romanticize the idea.

00:53:17.300 They romanticize it.

00:53:18.060 I do not want to go back to that time.

00:53:19.860 Plus, I'd be someone's slave anyway, right?

00:53:21.760 So no, I don't want to go back to that time.

00:53:23.680 Not in my place you wouldn't be.

00:53:24.660 Oh, thank you, sir.

00:53:25.440 love you so so now you'd have to do something i'm just saying we all got to help out

00:53:32.260 you know i'm saying you'll have to do the dishes once in a while but we all will have our day to

00:53:38.520 do them anyway sorry i shouldn't say anything i'm just saying i got you bro anywhere we go in time

00:53:45.080 i got thank you thank you thank you so uh so what happened between 1850 and like 1950 and that's

00:53:52.240 So it was 30, maybe 34, you said, until like 1850.

00:53:55.920 Well, for 30,000 years.

00:53:57.640 Since cavemen through the middle of the 19th century-

00:54:00.820 That's how long people live.

00:54:01.800 We increased the life expectancy by five years, okay?

00:54:05.500 Half of everyone born in 1840 was dead before they were 35.

00:54:10.440 A lot of that was infant deaths as well. 1.00

00:54:12.540 We've just gotten way better at that.

00:54:14.020 But also, there are three things.

00:54:15.900 Vaccines, antibiotics, and sanitation.

00:54:21.620 Those three things doubled our life expectancy within decades.

00:54:25.700 And now we're damn near triple that when you have other medicines

00:54:29.580 and anti-cancer treatments and this sort of thing.

00:54:31.840 It's not odd to have someone live to be 90-something.

00:54:34.960 That's not even weird.

00:54:36.500 But now we're also, I think it seems like we've gotten into a place

00:54:39.300 where some of these things have become compromised or got,

00:54:42.460 like greed has become such a big thing.

00:54:44.840 Corporate involvement has become-

00:54:46.820 Well, it's always been, but-

00:54:48.140 Right, but I think it's big.

00:54:49.100 it seems like across the board.

00:54:51.240 It would be greed over your health.

00:54:52.400 Yes.

00:54:52.600 Yeah, sure.

00:54:54.040 And whatever that is,

00:54:56.720 it's not as big an impact as the positive impact,

00:54:59.760 realizing that we are sacks of chemistry

00:55:01.360 and we can interact with us chemically

00:55:03.080 to get rid of ailments, to cure disease.

00:55:06.180 Oh, for sure.

00:55:07.500 So I'm just saying,

00:55:09.160 I'm giving a shout out to modern medicine and science.

00:55:12.320 Yeah.

00:55:12.640 Because that's what,

00:55:13.640 people take science for granted

00:55:15.200 because it's kind of hidden, you know?

00:55:17.440 Well, I think more recently what has given it a bad rap probably are during COVID.

00:55:24.980 And we don't have to go into any of this.

00:55:26.360 But I'm just saying some of the things that I think have given it a bad rap even more specifically,

00:55:30.160 probably during COVID, I think, to me anyway, whenever they had the opioid epidemic

00:55:37.180 and those people didn't get held liable, that was like a big thing.

00:55:40.000 Not about science in general, but just about-

00:55:41.920 That was a medicine that a medical company made.

00:55:44.300 I mean, right, a pharmaceutical company.

00:55:46.080 That stuff, and then now there's a lot of skepticism

00:55:49.120 because there's a lot of ownership of news and media.

00:55:52.880 There's a lot of entanglement.

00:55:54.140 Yeah, yeah, it's a problem.

00:55:56.300 And I think life expectancies have stalled a little bit.

00:56:00.340 They're pausing.

00:56:01.240 The opioid epidemic actually impacted that.

00:56:04.240 So did COVID, by the way.

00:56:05.320 Our life expectancy stalled during COVID.

00:56:08.400 But I'm saying overall, are you living a life

00:56:11.380 with science or without science?

00:56:12.620 I'm picking science, okay?

00:56:14.620 And we got to, you know, make sure it's working for us and not against us.

00:56:18.520 I think that's where we are in the space now, hopefully,

00:56:20.520 is that there's going to be some purification of a lot of processes

00:56:23.520 that maybe have probably gotten compromised in different places

00:56:26.440 and some that haven't and have been accused of being compromised.

00:56:29.180 Yeah, all I'm saying is people say, I'm just saying it's this.

00:56:31.600 You realize we landed a rover, an SUV-sized rover on Mars

00:56:37.080 that carried a helicopter with it that flew around the surface of Mars.

00:56:41.080 But they lost it.

00:56:42.900 No, it died.

00:56:43.620 that the helicopter died.

00:56:45.160 But that rover, that thing is missing.

00:56:47.080 Oh, is it?

00:56:47.660 I haven't checked that.

00:56:48.220 I think it is, isn't it?

00:56:49.060 Is that right?

00:56:49.820 Did they ever get that rover back?

00:56:51.160 You can't lose that rover.

00:56:51.940 I'm not calling you out on it, Neil.

00:56:53.180 You can call me out.

00:56:54.280 I don't claim full knowledge of everything

00:56:56.360 in the whole universe.

00:56:57.080 But the fact that they got it there, yes.

00:56:58.240 That's what I'm saying.

00:56:59.280 That's what I'm saying.

00:57:00.540 Yeah.

00:57:01.540 Most people can't get their kid

00:57:03.240 to pick up their toys from the living room

00:57:04.460 and science is putting one onto Mars.

00:57:07.140 No, NASA main rovers have not gone missing.

00:57:09.880 Curiosity and perseverance.

00:57:11.200 where they remain operating.

00:57:13.680 Yeah, those are the current rovers.

00:57:14.380 Those are their names?

00:57:15.320 Yes.

00:57:15.940 Okay.

00:57:16.260 They get named by middle schools.

00:57:18.640 Well, I'm just going to say

00:57:19.580 they were named by urban middle schools, I think.

00:57:22.940 Curiosity and Perseverance remain operating on Mars.

00:57:27.000 Older rovers such as Spirit.

00:57:28.400 What, those two words too big for you? 0.94

00:57:29.860 What are you saying?

00:57:30.320 I'm just saying that those names

00:57:34.080 have more ambiance to them.

00:57:36.360 Oh, so they're more abstract.

00:57:37.880 Yes, than like Matthew and Susan.

00:57:41.200 Gotcha.

00:57:41.720 That's what I am saying.

00:57:42.540 Gotcha.

00:57:42.880 And that is the truth.

00:57:44.160 Curiosity and perseverance remain operating on Mars.

00:57:46.780 Older rovers such as Spirit and Opportunity ended after NASA lost contact with them.

00:57:50.420 Yeah, because their batteries die.

00:57:52.020 That's fine.

00:57:52.800 So, no, we're still in contact.

00:57:53.860 All I'm saying is, you know, as a matter of fact, it is rocket science.

00:57:58.640 As a matter of fact, yeah, you got to work hard to get the right answers.

00:58:01.920 Science is done.

00:58:02.540 And, you know, last year, this year, and next year, there's a total solar eclipse.

00:58:07.060 I can tell you the exact second it will begin

00:58:10.560 and where you need to stand to see it.

00:58:13.060 This is an event in the future of the moon moving

00:58:16.060 through space coming between earth and the sun.

00:58:20.060 We know what's going on.

00:58:22.060 If I didn't tell you how we figured this out,

00:58:26.060 the scientists would be the gods of this earth.

00:58:31.060 If you don't behave, I'm gonna get rid of the sun tomorrow

00:58:34.060 at 1235.

00:58:35.060 and the sun starts disappearing

00:58:38.380 you'll be groveling at my feet

00:58:39.760 try to get the sun back

00:58:40.820 and I'll say yeah okay I'll bring it back

00:58:43.800 just this one time and it comes back

00:58:46.040 I bet there was a lot of perverted action

00:58:48.300 going on

00:58:48.920 but we tell you how we know this

00:58:51.820 we write books you can learn to do that

00:58:54.020 too

00:58:54.440 the old missing son trick huh 1.00

00:58:57.040 I bet a lot of ladies and some dudes 1.00

00:59:00.040 fell for that 1.00

00:59:01.000 I bet they fell for that

00:59:04.180 but you're right

00:59:05.300 You know, if you needed another reason 0.99

00:59:06.440 to think Columbus was a dick, okay, 0.98

00:59:09.060 on his third voyage, or might have been fourth. 0.98

00:59:12.020 How many voyages did he get?

00:59:13.600 Huh?

00:59:14.080 He got more than one?

00:59:14.980 Oh, yeah.

00:59:16.120 Multiple voyages.

00:59:17.200 Oh, I thought he did it on the first.

00:59:18.440 He came back multiple times.

00:59:19.400 No.

00:59:20.080 Oh, I thought he did it on the first try.

00:59:21.560 No, no, no.

00:59:22.260 No, on the third or fourth,

00:59:24.940 is he in Jamaica or Hispaniola?

00:59:27.500 One of the larger Caribbean islands.

00:59:29.940 And he's ready to go back to Spain.

00:59:32.040 and oh he's got four voyages good uh so between 1492 and 1504 he made four voyages across the

00:59:40.300 yeah there you go so on his fourth voyage it was uh he was headed back to spain and he

00:59:47.920 didn't have enough food for his crew and so he went to the locals i need can you spare me some

00:59:54.660 food for this trip back he says no we only grow exactly what we need for to get through the winter

01:00:00.340 so we can't do this.

01:00:02.420 You know what he did?

01:00:03.260 He went, looked up his tables, science tables,

01:00:06.980 and said, if you do not give my crew food, 0.96

01:00:10.940 my Christian God, because they're all heathens, right? 1.00

01:00:13.820 Because they're running around, they're not Christian. 1.00

01:00:15.940 Right. 1.00

01:00:16.620 My Christian God will make the moon disappear

01:00:21.460 six days hence if you do not obey.

01:00:24.500 Wow.

01:00:25.980 And some were rightly skeptical,

01:00:27.980 but others were kind of spooked.

01:00:29.700 And six days come, the moon starts disappearing

01:00:32.060 because he knew there was a total lunar eclipse happening

01:00:34.980 and they just brought on the food.

01:00:37.980 Dang.

01:00:38.740 And I don't know, we didn't check back

01:00:40.340 to see if they survived the winter, but-

01:00:42.920 But they definitely-

01:00:43.700 Yeah, if you needed another reason to think 0.99

01:00:45.080 Columbus was a dick, that there goes one. 0.99

01:00:48.000 But if you- 0.99

01:00:48.380 Using the laws of physics known to the Europeans- 0.97

01:00:51.300 Was he a dick or was he a scientist? 0.98

01:00:52.960 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:00:54.020 But I'm just saying he used trickery.

01:00:56.540 He used knowledge of the rhythms of the heavens as trickery, yes.

01:01:02.220 And I'm saying, so that's the case.

01:01:04.460 If scientists did that today, we would rule the world.

01:01:06.940 But no, we let politicians rule the world for reasons that remain mysterious to scientists.

01:01:12.700 But we tell you how it's all done.

01:01:15.000 Mysterious to everybody, I think.

01:01:16.320 Oh, yeah.

01:01:16.680 Okay, there you go.

01:01:17.420 It's a mysterious place that we're in, you know?

01:01:20.240 That's why I'm here today.

01:01:21.240 I'm telling you that comedians make it bearable.

01:01:23.920 thank you for existing in this world well that's nice of you to say neil i think you guys carry the

01:01:30.820 soul of a of a society of civilization because you because you you have to be smart enough

01:01:37.460 to know what's there to make fun of make fun of it and hand it back to the people

01:01:42.380 who who would otherwise get angry because you're making fun of them but say hey that's kind of

01:01:48.840 oh you you shed some light on something i didn't even know i was doing or i was thinking or i was

01:01:53.680 saying. And so, yes, you make the world bearable. Let's take a break right there for a second.

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01:04:47.420 yeah dude you know what i was just thinking the other day was i wish they made pants right and

01:04:54.240 they should have these that you can they have a built-in like liner in between oh to just pee

01:04:59.540 down the leg that you can pee into the pants yeah they kind of have that and the pants holds it

01:05:03.760 space suits can do that yeah really if not diapers they used to have these these uh well this is a

01:05:10.280 portable urinal stadium pal there it is that's a portable urinal though i'm talking about pants

01:05:15.160 where it just fills up in the legs and then you don't want to fill it up like dump the stuff dude

01:05:21.020 i don't want to be caught dumping it or whatever and what if you get caught by the city or whatever

01:05:24.840 i want to just fill it up and then drop it like yeah put it at home or put your leg over the

01:05:30.180 toilet this is for people who are drinking beer at a ball game and are too freaking lazy to get 0.99

01:05:38.280 off their ass and go to the bathroom yeah they have yeah this is yeah this is you're looking at 0.99

01:05:44.100 anybody this is just some dude who's taped a bunch of plastic to his leg and he's literally 1.00

01:05:50.100 we've peeing in it in this commercial in that ad there's pee going in it that no that's that

01:05:57.200 ain't right yeah of course it's not so be discreet of course be discreet and look at the guy

01:06:02.040 you know that no i i don't mind getting up moving my muscles every you know however a couple hours

01:06:09.880 If I have pee in my body, I want it to get out.

01:06:13.540 You said you were bed wetter as a kid.

01:06:15.260 Oh, yeah, I was, man.

01:06:16.180 Yeah?

01:06:16.960 I wet.

01:06:17.480 When did it go away?

01:06:18.260 Is it still a thing?

01:06:20.480 I'm non-practicing.

01:06:21.640 Non-practicing bed wetter.

01:06:23.200 Yeah, but I'm not currently active.

01:06:24.980 So I was not a bed wetter, but it's not like I never did wet the bed.

01:06:29.720 And the times that I did wet the bed, I can count them.

01:06:33.420 I was dreaming that I was in the bathroom peeing.

01:06:37.100 Oh, wow.

01:06:37.780 Yeah, sometimes that would happen to me.

01:06:39.020 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:39.420 But other times I would just pee all over.

01:06:42.400 Wait, in your dream, you're just peeing wherever you are?

01:06:44.960 Oh, dude, I would remember, yeah, a lot of,

01:06:46.960 because I would have dreams, and for some reason,

01:06:48.700 sometimes I was like a, it wasn't like a detective or whatever,

01:06:53.320 but it was like somebody who had to have information or something,

01:06:56.480 and people would ask me the information,

01:06:58.280 and my answer was always just to pee all over in the dream.

01:07:00.880 It would be like, this is-

01:07:01.820 Wow, it was a response.

01:07:02.780 Yes, it was a response.

01:07:03.860 Wow.

01:07:04.340 And so then I would pee in real life.

01:07:06.180 Look up, what type of child, is there like a,

01:07:09.420 Is there like a demographic or a gender?

01:07:13.080 Like what type of kids wet the bed like the most or for the longest, I wonder?

01:07:18.860 I don't know if they've got that figured out, but they later found some medicine that I heard.

01:07:22.680 Oh, I took it.

01:07:23.460 Oh, you did? Okay.

01:07:24.380 Oh, dude, I'll tell you about something else that they got.

01:07:26.700 So I finally got a pill and you get a pill and you don't wet the bed, but you got to take the pill.

01:07:32.720 And sometimes you forget or whatever and you just wet the bed.

01:07:35.880 but the other thing that can happen is my mother that pill somebody invented that pill

01:07:41.560 okay i mean before that there was no pill oh i know that and then there's a pill so i'm just

01:07:49.140 saying that's a um oh here's the statistics yeah so the bedwetting drops you know as you get into

01:07:56.540 your teens yeah it's hard to yeah at age five it's 15 to 20 percent of kids and then it drops a

01:08:02.420 a couple of percent here and there until age 10, it's 5% to 6%. In adulthood, about 2% in some

01:08:09.200 estimates. Scroll back up a little bit. Bedwetting clinically called nocturnal enuresis after age

01:08:18.920 five is about two to three times more common in boys than girls. In one US sample of eight to

01:08:23.840 11-year-olds, it affected 6.21% of boys versus 2.15%. Yeah, more than twice.

01:08:29.820 Race itself is not a useful standalone explanation

01:08:32.820 for why an individual child bedwets or will wet the longest. 0.98

01:08:37.020 Yeah, so it's, I mean, I'm just saying we're a sack of chemicals.

01:08:40.520 We give you a pill, that goes away.

01:08:42.540 Well, listen to what happened to me, dude.

01:08:44.020 So my mother for my birthday one time saved up a little bit of money

01:08:49.040 and she got me these electric, a buzzer underwear, right?

01:08:52.540 And it was an underwears that had a buzzer in the front.

01:08:56.600 And when the...

01:08:57.500 When pee hits it.

01:08:58.180 when the pee, pee hits it, it makes a like a G. So it wakes you up, wakes you up. Right.

01:09:04.320 But dude, uh, I ended up, so I would go over to my grandparents, right. I go stay there when I

01:09:09.480 was really, when I was really like probably four or five and they let me drink as much apple juice

01:09:14.140 as I could. Right. And you, and I would piss big on apple juice. Right. If I was drinking apple

01:09:18.340 juice, I knew I was wet in the bed. Okay. And the second it hit my lips, I couldn't stop drinking

01:09:22.140 it. So I would drink like one of the big ones at night, dude. And then my grandparents didn't

01:09:26.380 know i had these underwears and so in the middle of the night i'm laying there buzzing i'm dead

01:09:30.440 asleep my grandfather has no idea what's going on dude i wake up he's on a chair he's buzzing he

01:09:37.100 thought i was getting electrocuted he's on a chair with a broomstick pushing it against my body like

01:09:41.940 that trying to get me to be be awake scared crying yeah with a broomstick yeah because i guess he

01:09:47.920 thought wood wouldn't travel um energy unless he thought you the devil was in you was he trying to

01:09:52.560 exercising.

01:09:53.400 I mean, look, he might've been trying to touch me

01:09:55.360 with a stick, who knows? 1.00

01:09:56.400 That was a fucking pervert. 1.00

01:09:58.400 Maybe the person who invented the pill 1.00

01:10:01.240 was given that gift as his grandma.

01:10:03.540 He said, I'm not doing this.

01:10:04.540 And it changed it, and then science helped him figure it out.

01:10:06.440 There you go, yeah. 0.94

01:10:07.980 What about this, dude, can you ejaculate in space? 0.96

01:10:10.540 Would that be the same as vomiting, kind of? 0.97

01:10:12.020 Like, is it the same, like, can you ejaculate in space?

01:10:14.240 Yeah, yeah, I mean, the muscles do that all by themselves.

01:10:16.860 So the way to test it, here's how to test it,

01:10:19.760 is, because when they first sent astronauts in space,

01:10:22.560 There was the question, can you swallow in space?

01:10:25.160 Yeah.

01:10:26.000 Will phlegm just gather in your throat?

01:10:28.780 But there were all these questions,

01:10:30.280 and it had never been tested,

01:10:31.880 but you could sort of test it.

01:10:33.960 Yeah.

01:10:34.880 You can say, okay, on earth, 0.99

01:10:40.100 can you ejaculate standing up? 0.99

01:10:42.380 Clearly. 0.99

01:10:43.220 Yes. 0.99

01:10:46.840 Can you ejaculate horizontally? 0.99

01:10:49.680 Clearly. 0.99

01:10:50.520 can you ejaculate upside down? 0.96

01:10:54.060 Now that's harder to test, 0.85

01:10:55.680 but there's no reason why you think that wouldn't happen.

01:10:58.940 Well, if you can ejaculate vertical to gravity,

01:11:01.620 horizontal to gravity, and opposite gravity,

01:11:04.760 then no gravity should be no problem for that action. 0.84

01:11:09.900 And sure enough, yeah, you can ejaculate in space, 1.00

01:11:13.180 women ovulate in space, all the normal things, 1.00

01:11:16.880 because the body doesn't know 1.00

01:11:19.200 if you're horizontal or vertical,

01:11:20.520 it's gotta be able to do it all by itself.

01:11:22.100 Veins sending blood,

01:11:28.440 you know, why doesn't blood collect in your down here?

01:11:32.140 Because you have veins and arteries

01:11:33.960 that help move the blood through your system,

01:11:36.440 get it back to the heart.

01:11:37.820 So-

01:11:38.660 Because otherwise blood would just gather all in your feet?

01:11:40.720 Correct, without that.

01:11:41.940 Because of gravity?

01:11:42.780 Now here's what happens, yes.

01:11:43.860 Here's what happens in space.

01:11:45.100 your brain doesn't know how to get rid of the blood

01:11:49.780 as efficiently as other parts of your body.

01:11:55.000 So people, their heads can swell up a bit.

01:11:57.960 Really?

01:11:58.560 In zero G, yeah.

01:12:00.140 And there's pressure on the eyeballs.

01:12:02.220 So it's not a picnic.

01:12:04.060 How do they relieve that in there?

01:12:05.200 I don't know all the ways that they figured this out.

01:12:09.020 So you know the solution?

01:12:11.160 Rotate the space station.

01:12:12.260 Like any sci-fi movie you've ever seen, it rotates.

01:12:15.100 and it creates an artificial gravity and then you don't have to worry about it get on with your

01:12:18.840 life so nasa still hasn't gone there even though all science fiction has so i'm very disappointed

01:12:24.900 that's fascinating man oh by the way in lost in space there are chapters on every one of these

01:12:31.200 oh yeah that's what i'm saying yeah yeah there's everything in there there's every there's on space

01:12:34.940 exploration what what you know like half the stuff we've been talking about are things out of there

01:12:38.780 but also that's right that's right it's all a bunch of like it's so many different facts and

01:12:42.820 Things that are kind of conversation starters, man.

01:12:45.760 I read, one thing I read in there was that you'll be younger in space.

01:12:54.240 Or that, does space make you younger?

01:12:55.960 Yeah, it doesn't make you younger, you, well, okay, it depends on how fast you're moving.

01:13:02.100 Okay.

01:13:02.420 If you're moving really fast, you will age more slowly than people back on Earth.

01:13:06.620 Okay.

01:13:07.480 And so it's just Einstein's relativity.

01:13:09.240 so you don't reverse so much as everything ticks slower your heart rate your watch

01:13:15.460 everything is normal to you and you look to earth and everybody's kind of moving faster

01:13:20.580 it's a relativity problem it's not so it's a fascinating fact and wait explain it to me a

01:13:27.220 little bit better well there's not it's it's just is i mean but like if you come back will you have

01:13:31.620 aged as much that's the famous twin paradox right so you send off your twin and they go and travel

01:13:38.320 with the speedolite or half the speedolite.

01:13:39.340 Wait, they did that.

01:13:40.040 Was it Mark and Scott Kelly are the twins, right?

01:13:41.920 Yeah.

01:13:42.380 They're twin astronauts.

01:13:43.780 And they sent, they're identical twins.

01:13:45.420 And they sent one into the space station

01:13:47.400 for like a year or so.

01:13:48.940 And then the other one stayed here on Earth.

01:13:50.820 And when they came back, then they tested their DNA.

01:13:53.540 They looked at their health.

01:13:54.400 There they go.

01:13:54.760 We got good pictures of them.

01:13:56.040 What'd they learn?

01:13:56.660 I think I had Scott Kelly on my podcast.

01:14:00.500 And I said, so which twin are you?

01:14:02.880 He said, oh, I'm the good looking one.

01:14:04.620 That was a fun reply.

01:14:06.420 He's probably been asked that a hundred times.

01:14:07.860 Oh, yeah, I don't even believe in twins, but I believe that people love them.

01:14:12.980 So I have no idea what you meant by that, that you don't believe in twins?

01:14:16.100 It just makes me very nervous.

01:14:18.480 Okay.

01:14:19.300 And I don't hold any edge against people that are twins.

01:14:22.420 I love them, but it makes me very skeptical.

01:14:25.720 You creeped out?

01:14:26.640 No, skeptical.

01:14:28.340 Of?

01:14:29.520 The reality of it.

01:14:30.840 Okay.

01:14:31.300 And maybe the science.

01:14:32.520 So here's what I said.

01:14:33.700 The good thing about science is it's true whether or not you believe in it.

01:14:37.500 Right.

01:14:38.900 Right.

01:14:39.520 So whether or not you believe it, it has no effect.

01:14:42.580 Oh, let them cook.

01:14:44.120 But I'm just saying if they show up like that.

01:14:47.460 You're a little creeped out.

01:14:48.700 No.

01:14:49.820 I'm just.

01:14:51.020 You don't believe this can happen.

01:14:53.240 I want to see the paperwork.

01:14:55.060 That's what I'm saying.

01:14:55.740 I want to see the VIN numbers.

01:14:58.740 You want to see?

01:14:59.860 I want to see the Carfax.

01:15:03.700 Show me the Carfax.

01:15:04.860 That's what I want to see, Neil.

01:15:07.500 By the way, by the way, by the way, okay, twins have different fingerprints.

01:15:17.860 There's their VIN.

01:15:19.120 That's fair.

01:15:19.760 I refuse to say VIN number because the N in VIN stands for number, so I refuse to say that.

01:15:23.800 Okay, okay.

01:15:26.560 It's like people said, where's the nearest ATM machine?

01:15:29.480 The M in ATM stands for machine.

01:15:32.280 I respect that.

01:15:33.060 Okay, so the VIN is their fingerprint.

01:15:36.140 Got it.

01:15:36.480 There you go.

01:15:36.900 it's two different two different fingerprints huh do they have the same dna identical dna

01:15:42.860 what so one of them could do a murder and you could think it's either one

01:15:46.040 uh depending on the yes yes you wouldn't know yes it could be the twin who did it but you know

01:15:51.940 what's crazier than that there's some people who are what's the word um the chimeras there's some

01:16:00.580 They can see at night?

01:16:02.080 No, that'd be good if you could.

01:16:05.300 There's some people where the zygote, 0.93

01:16:08.100 something in their fertilization

01:16:12.000 merged two different DNAs into one life form.

01:16:17.920 I think it's, don't quote me on this,

01:16:21.380 and I think it has to do with two,

01:16:25.540 that might've been fraternal twins,

01:16:27.740 but the yokes merged.

01:16:29.500 So when you come out as an adult, 0.71

01:16:31.880 if I take a DNA sample of your arm,

01:16:34.800 I'll get a different DNA than I get a DNA sample

01:16:37.160 from some other part of your body. 0.98

01:16:38.620 And they're called chimeras. 1.00

01:16:40.160 Let me see that.

01:16:41.060 A chimera is a single organism, object, or concept

01:16:43.760 made up of completely different parts, genotypes, or origins.

01:16:48.680 A single organism whose body contains cells

01:16:50.860 from two or more distinct zygotes.

01:16:52.640 Yes.

01:16:53.480 It can happen when two fertilized eggs

01:16:54.800 fuse together early in the womb

01:16:57.220 or through cell exchange in twins.

01:16:58.820 Right, it's two separately fertilized eggs.

01:17:00.540 So they would be, it's not a twin,

01:17:02.160 it's not an identical twin.

01:17:03.360 But it can show up in the same body.

01:17:06.020 So it means if I do commit a crime

01:17:09.260 and I leave Diana on the scene

01:17:10.700 and then they get DNA off my cheek or something

01:17:12.880 and it's not the DNA that I left,

01:17:15.240 they wouldn't implicate me.

01:17:17.700 Yeah, it's pretty wild.

01:17:18.480 That is wild.

01:17:18.940 It'd be a good murder mystery

01:17:19.880 if you want to just throw in some chimeras.

01:17:22.100 They're very rare, people. 0.62

01:17:23.420 Just throw a couple in.

01:17:26.320 Well, what we've been talking about,

01:17:27.920 um, people going to space, right. And space travel and what's going on. And, um, and it's

01:17:33.420 kind of become this privatized thing now, it seems like in a way with like, you know, Elon's trying

01:17:37.640 to get there. Bezos is running it. Um, do you, are, what are your fears about, uh, about like

01:17:46.500 space? And like, do you think it's going to get gentrified? Like I know in your book, you talk

01:17:50.740 about how much stuff is getting left in space. Like what are your fears about like the privatization

01:17:55.440 of space yeah yeah so it's the space debris is a whole separate issue there's not only all the

01:18:00.100 satellites as i said earlier elon is now rising through his 12 000th satellite wait wait tell me

01:18:05.560 about that again well no he's launched 12 000 he has 80 of all satellites orbiting the earth

01:18:10.860 were launched by spacex okay so aliens coming to earth and they see not only how many satellites

01:18:19.140 are orbiting it, but the level of debris that's left over from destroyed satellites and paint

01:18:25.580 chips and rocket boosters and things, I think that's why we haven't been visited by aliens.

01:18:30.740 What the hell are you doing down there? 0.99

01:18:32.680 And they just move on because it's a trash heap. 0.98

01:18:35.680 And it doesn't become a trash heap until it's every trip you take, you encounter trash.

01:18:42.420 You know, you go in the wilderness, you toss a candy wrapper over, no one's ever going

01:18:46.320 to see that again.

01:18:47.480 They're not going to come arrest you.

01:18:48.560 but if a thousand people do that

01:18:50.800 and the candy wrapper is everywhere,

01:18:51.940 you've destroyed the wilderness.

01:18:53.060 Oh yeah.

01:18:53.900 So space is kind of approaching that.

01:18:58.580 Really?

01:18:59.420 So dude, check this out.

01:19:00.240 So this is a video of debris orbiting the earth.

01:19:09.240 This is real?

01:19:10.400 Yes.

01:19:11.240 And NASA tracks this.

01:19:12.500 This is just what NASA tracks.

01:19:13.860 The military tracks even more.

01:19:16.900 Earth is in the center of that,

01:19:19.240 and the low Earth-orbiting debris

01:19:21.780 is what's directly on the surface.

01:19:24.280 The rest of that are, like I said, satellite.

01:19:27.100 This is just the debris,

01:19:28.360 not even the satellites we care about.

01:19:30.500 How are we gonna fix it?

01:19:31.880 Look, we're zooming in.

01:19:33.040 Look at this.

01:19:34.080 Nuh-uh.

01:19:34.920 Yeah, huh.

01:19:35.760 Well, how can planes even be out there?

01:19:38.180 What is this?

01:19:39.020 Well, because that's orbiting in space.

01:19:40.200 Planes are much, much lower than that.

01:19:42.800 Dude, how do you know it?

01:19:44.740 How do I know what?

01:19:45.680 This is real?

01:19:46.720 Yes, it's as real as twins.

01:19:52.660 This is the debris that we are actively tracking.

01:19:57.140 Dang.

01:19:57.520 Okay?

01:19:58.060 Bro, look, and some of y'all cannot see this at home.

01:20:00.800 It is.

01:20:01.700 Some of your people just listened to the podcast.

01:20:03.520 About half.

01:20:03.920 About half.

01:20:04.620 We're looking at a NASA video of all of the-

01:20:08.780 This looks like a snow globe inside out.

01:20:11.040 A snow globe.

01:20:11.860 I love that.

01:20:12.860 You have to go look at this.

01:20:14.180 But do we know that this is factual, Neil?

01:20:16.080 How do they get this information?

01:20:17.860 We're tracking it.

01:20:19.480 You can track the debris.

01:20:22.880 Oh yeah.

01:20:23.980 In fact, sometimes launch windows are affected

01:20:27.420 by whether there's a hunk of debris

01:20:29.100 that might collide with the thing you're trying to launch.

01:20:31.880 Well, at this rate, how could they launch anything

01:20:33.960 with this much debris going on?

01:20:36.100 It's dangerous and you're taking a risk.

01:20:37.700 Space is very empty.

01:20:39.100 You're looking at this compressed onto a screen.

01:20:41.080 Got it.

01:20:41.920 So usually you don't hit any of it,

01:20:43.840 But if this gets worse, which it will,

01:20:49.640 there's something called a Kessler effect.

01:20:52.180 Ooh, let me hear it go, ooh.

01:20:54.360 Ooh.

01:20:55.200 Okay, the Kessler effect.

01:20:58.520 It's where there's so many satellites.

01:21:01.620 These are going 18,000 miles an hour,

01:21:04.520 multiple times the speed of a rifle bullet, okay?

01:21:07.680 Okay.

01:21:08.520 And if you're hit by one of those bits and pieces,

01:21:11.720 they're small.

01:21:13.080 It'll destroy your, you break into pieces

01:21:16.920 if you're another satellite.

01:21:18.360 So one piece can break a satellite into,

01:21:20.620 let's say, 10 pieces.

01:21:21.540 So they're hitting each other all the time.

01:21:22.700 Well, not yet.

01:21:24.440 At the Kessler effect is there's a threshold,

01:21:27.440 above which if a single satellite gets destroyed,

01:21:32.000 there are enough other satellites

01:21:34.380 ready to be destroyed by its debris

01:21:37.000 that it systematically destroys 100%

01:21:39.620 of the satellites in orbit.

01:21:41.580 That's called the Kessler Effect.

01:21:43.660 And you don't want to ever get near that.

01:21:45.660 Really? Yes.

01:21:47.420 In fact, the movie, the movie.

01:21:50.200 Armageddon? No, Gravity.

01:21:52.200 Was basically the Kessler Effect.

01:21:54.080 Do you remember that?

01:21:54.920 Where the debris just started taking everything out?

01:21:56.760 It says, number of rocket launches

01:21:58.060 since the start of the space age in 1957, about seven.

01:22:01.220 7,300.

01:22:02.060 7,320.

01:22:04.080 Number of satellites these rocket launches

01:22:06.160 have placed into Earth orbit, 27,490.

01:22:10.360 Wow.

01:22:11.480 Number of these still in space, 18,840.

01:22:14.780 Of those 18,000, about 12 to 14,000 are SpaceX.

01:22:21.000 Wow.

01:22:21.920 And about 2,500 of those, or 2,800 of those

01:22:25.160 are not even functioning anymore,

01:22:26.440 but they are still out there.

01:22:27.280 Now, here's the next one.

01:22:28.120 Space objects regularly tracked

01:22:32.460 and maintained in their catalog, 46,000, okay?

01:22:38.540 Wow.

01:22:39.780 And then this is wild total mass of all space objects in Earth's orbit.

01:22:43.860 17,000 tons.

01:22:45.600 God.

01:22:46.040 Yes.

01:22:46.480 I'm not going out there.

01:22:48.260 I'm not going out there.

01:22:49.280 Stay here on Earth.

01:22:50.440 Oh, yeah.

01:22:51.480 Unless it gets weird, man.

01:22:54.560 Isn't it already weird?

01:22:55.960 What is your threshold for weird if it hasn't gotten weird enough for you yet?

01:22:59.140 We're there.

01:23:00.360 Thank you.

01:23:02.260 I think we're even past there.

01:23:05.260 Yeah, do you start to think about that?

01:23:06.820 Like, what do you think is going on?

01:23:08.020 What do you think that these elites are trying to do?

01:23:10.300 Because obviously going into space is Elon's big thing, right?

01:23:14.020 Like, is it just him like having a blast

01:23:16.980 or because he has unlimited ideas?

01:23:18.620 Like it's like a kid who can-

01:23:19.620 And he's got the money.

01:23:20.440 Right, he can do whatever he wants.

01:23:22.100 Or do you think we will need colonization?

01:23:24.600 Like, do you think there's something coming

01:23:26.300 that they're not letting the rest of us know about?

01:23:28.460 I'm not authorized to comment.

01:23:31.620 If you make it in and I don't, dude.

01:23:33.960 I said I'm taking you with me.

01:23:35.760 Didn't I already say that?

01:23:36.620 My boy.

01:23:37.500 You're my first call.

01:23:39.220 Okay.

01:23:39.700 I'm coming.

01:23:42.160 Thank you, dude.

01:23:42.940 Thank you, bro.

01:23:43.560 And I'm going to hold you to that.

01:23:44.520 Yeah, no, no.

01:23:45.200 I will be there.

01:23:48.140 Banging on the window.

01:23:49.600 Hey, Neil.

01:23:51.980 I got you on tape, Sam.

01:23:54.560 Didn't they have that space treaty?

01:23:56.140 What was...

01:23:56.640 Well, there's the original outer space treaty from 1967.

01:23:59.720 Yeah, what was that about?

01:24:00.920 And that was peaceful cooperation in space.

01:24:05.100 Amongst different countries, right?

01:24:06.560 All the space, because it came out in 1967,

01:24:08.820 we're about to land on the moon. 0.86

01:24:10.380 We're trying to beat Russia, 0.87

01:24:11.620 and it says, we're all going into space, 0.93

01:24:13.620 and that's the next frontier,

01:24:14.540 we should do it together peacefully.

01:24:17.060 Now here's my rebuttal to that, okay?

01:24:21.220 If you can go into space with all these countries

01:24:25.320 and be peaceful and kind to one another,

01:24:28.940 then don't go ahead and do that on Earth.

01:24:32.260 What do you mean you can't do that on Earth,

01:24:35.220 But a treaty is gonna make us do that in space?

01:24:37.480 I know.

01:24:38.520 Show me that you can do it on Earth.

01:24:40.740 Then I'll have evidence that this will work in space,

01:24:43.020 because I don't believe you. 1.00

01:24:44.340 Type of shit. 1.00

01:24:45.180 I don't believe you for a minute. 1.00

01:24:46.480 Space don't want us, dude, if this is how we're acting.

01:24:48.900 Plus it's very hostile to human physiology.

01:24:53.220 Space is.

01:24:54.060 Space.

01:24:54.900 Yeah.

01:24:55.740 There are a hundred ways you can die.

01:24:57.240 People say, oh, going to Mars,

01:24:58.420 that's like Columbus going to the New World.

01:25:00.140 No, it's not.

01:25:00.980 You know why?

01:25:02.240 Because when Columbus came to the New World,

01:25:05.780 the trees where he landed are made of wood,

01:25:08.960 just like the trees in Spain where he built his ship.

01:25:13.200 So he can repair his ship.

01:25:14.920 Oh, what else?

01:25:15.760 He steps off the ship, he can breathe the air.

01:25:18.520 He steps off the ship.

01:25:19.600 There are other human beings there to greet him

01:25:22.380 and to feed him.

01:25:24.560 On Mars, no such luxuries.

01:25:28.100 If you crash on Mars, you dead.

01:25:29.580 Dang.

01:25:30.420 If something breaks on your ship, you day it.

01:25:32.440 Unless you have like a 3D printer, okay?

01:25:34.700 And what, you could just print you up a little something?

01:25:36.200 Yeah, print up a nut or a bolt or something, you know.

01:25:38.640 Ooh, that's a good idea to bring.

01:25:39.940 I know, I know.

01:25:40.380 From now on, when people say,

01:25:41.500 what do you bring into an island?

01:25:44.460 I got an idea.

01:25:45.060 So what you do is you preload the Martian surface

01:25:47.820 with these things you might need.

01:25:49.700 Understood.

01:25:50.480 The Outer Space Treaty, these are the rules.

01:25:52.680 This is hilarious.

01:25:53.500 No weapons of mass destruction are allowed in space, right?

01:25:59.040 No ownership?

01:26:00.200 Yeah.

01:26:00.420 No ownership, no nation can claim sovereignty

01:26:03.220 or ownership of outer space, the moon, or other planets.

01:26:07.180 Peaceful use, celestial bodies must be used

01:26:09.060 only for peaceful goals.

01:26:11.680 Military base and weapons are banned there.

01:26:14.680 Space is open for exploration

01:26:15.980 and used by every country equally.

01:26:18.180 Right, so there's a later version of this

01:26:21.980 called the Artemis Accords, where in the Artemis Accords,

01:26:25.780 we wrote it, it's the same as this, it's the same,

01:26:30.020 but it allows you to maybe make a business case

01:26:35.760 for mining an asteroid.

01:26:37.340 Nuh-uh.

01:26:38.160 Okay.

01:26:39.000 The Artemis Accords?

01:26:39.880 Yeah, Artemis Accords.

01:26:41.000 A non-binding set of principles established by NASA

01:26:44.040 and the US Department of State in 2020

01:26:46.640 to guide civil space exploration and cooperation

01:26:48.800 on the Moon, Mars, and other celestial bodies.

01:26:51.140 So it leaves open business cases, okay?

01:26:54.280 Now, here's the thing.

01:26:57.400 100-something odd countries have signed it.

01:26:59.600 You know who hasn't signed it?

01:27:01.580 Russia, China, North Korea, and Venezuela.

01:27:04.480 Wow.

01:27:05.320 So that's the treaty in progress right now.

01:27:07.140 India's not spacefaring, they have a rover on the moon.

01:27:10.180 Oh, they do? 0.87

01:27:11.300 I bet it's picking up other people

01:27:12.620 and driving them somewhere else.

01:27:13.620 No, just, stop.

01:27:16.560 Is that crazy, dude? 1.00

01:27:19.360 I'm just joking, India. 1.00

01:27:20.780 Can you still tell jokes like that? 1.00

01:27:22.140 Oh, yeah, we can.

01:27:22.980 Yeah, you can, okay.

01:27:24.040 And I'm just joking.

01:27:24.820 On the side of the tracks, you can tell those jokes. 1.00

01:27:26.380 And my Indian friends will love that joke. 1.00

01:27:28.100 Okay, that's okay.

01:27:29.260 Because I love them.

01:27:30.360 Okay.

01:27:31.320 So here's something that-

01:27:34.000 That's wild, though. 1.00

01:27:35.300 Here was such a dick move that I only thought Americans would have done, but the Indians 1.00

01:27:41.260 did it, and I was just so sad, okay? 1.00

01:27:43.800 Because, you know, India and Pakistan have got this thing- 0.87

01:27:46.000 Right there, they don't get along together. 1.00

01:27:46.940 They don't get along.

01:27:47.660 Right there, they don't get along.

01:27:48.840 Okay.

01:27:48.920 Be buddies.

01:27:49.720 Okay, watch. 0.97

01:27:50.760 India, on their rover, on the rover tracks,

01:27:57.960 they imprinted their flag

01:28:00.380 with the Indian Space Research Organization, ISRO.

01:28:05.280 They have a little logo.

01:28:06.540 Their flag and that logo is on the tracks of the rover.

01:28:09.700 So as the rover moves along the surface of the moon,

01:28:15.360 the Indian flag gets repeated there.

01:28:20.760 It'll stay there for 1,000 years

01:28:22.240 because there's no weather, there's no wind.

01:28:24.280 Nothing's going to erode it. 0.98

01:28:25.300 Now, here's the dick move. 0.99

01:28:26.740 You ready? 0.99

01:28:27.980 Someone on social media,

01:28:29.100 I can't blame the whole country for this. 1.00

01:28:30.940 Some dick on social media 0.98

01:28:33.380 said Pakistan has the moon on its flag 0.98

01:28:41.940 because it's got the moon and the star,

01:28:44.700 the Islamic symbol,

01:28:46.700 whereas India has its flag on the moon.

01:28:50.760 really, did you need to do that?

01:28:53.940 You're already ahead of them in all these ways

01:28:56.200 and you got to like cast shade, really?

01:29:00.160 That's a cheap dig.

01:29:01.100 That's a cheap dig.

01:29:01.700 I thought it was punching down.

01:29:03.140 Yeah, and also-

01:29:04.180 I mean, it was clever.

01:29:05.120 Yeah, I agree.

01:29:06.280 It was a clever joke, but it was like-

01:29:08.540 But it's like you are the meditation guys.

01:29:11.980 Good point.

01:29:12.840 You know?

01:29:13.400 Good point.

01:29:13.980 You're the ones that should be supposed to be cool

01:29:15.540 and copacetic with everything.

01:29:17.000 But at least they're not attacking other people with missiles.

01:29:18.940 So I think I would take the first, you know what I'm saying?

01:29:22.820 Okay.

01:29:23.380 I would take that over.

01:29:24.760 But it's still not conducive to peaceful cooperation in space.

01:29:29.200 Well, I'll say this.

01:29:30.000 It does break the outer space treaty. 0.99

01:29:34.700 Don't be a dick in space. 0.99

01:29:36.560 I think that's kind of what the treaty said. 0.99

01:29:38.500 It does.

01:29:39.840 And what was that second one that allowed the business, the Artemis Accord?

01:29:42.500 Can you just show me that one more time?

01:29:43.760 It's worded in a, the way I should say it,

01:29:46.360 it's worded in a way that does not preclude

01:29:49.520 business interests.

01:29:50.480 Yeah, that's what I wanted to just read.

01:29:52.580 So there it goes.

01:29:53.420 And look at all the countries that have signed it.

01:29:56.700 There it is, that's huge.

01:29:58.200 Half these countries never getting into space.

01:30:00.040 No, but they might.

01:30:02.700 Would you let them be ambitious, dude?

01:30:04.580 You're right.

01:30:05.420 Give them a dream.

01:30:07.120 You're right.

01:30:07.960 Please.

01:30:08.800 Go back to the, if you go back to the table of contents,

01:30:12.000 Registration of space objects, scientific data,

01:30:14.840 space heritage, space resources.

01:30:18.020 Space resources.

01:30:20.900 How's that for a code word?

01:30:22.660 Let's go to page four.

01:30:24.640 Utilization that can benefit humankind

01:30:27.100 by providing critical support for safe

01:30:28.900 and sustainable operations.

01:30:31.740 The extraction and utilization of space resources.

01:30:35.260 Recovery from moon, Mars, comets, asteroids,

01:30:38.000 should be executed in a manner that complies with the treaty.

01:30:40.960 Safe, sustainable activities.

01:30:43.320 They affirm that the extraction of resources

01:30:45.180 do not inherently constitute national appropriation.

01:30:49.260 See, it's very loosey-goosey there.

01:30:52.920 But it opens the door

01:30:54.800 because we have a lot of space enterprise ready to,

01:30:57.380 space industry ready to just jump on all of them.

01:31:00.420 Do we have that?

01:31:02.120 Yeah.

01:31:02.840 I mean, is there a lot of things

01:31:03.760 that are kind of like in the hop or that if we-

01:31:06.640 Yeah, when Artemis lands on the moon,

01:31:08.620 it'll be supported by three or four or five different large space industry companies space

01:31:15.580 industrial complex right so we talked about that last time didn't we what was it oh yeah yeah we

01:31:20.920 talked about generational uh yeah that that's an interesting subject because if the destination is

01:31:25.460 too far and it takes longer than your lifetime then you just they have what's called generational

01:31:30.620 ships in science fiction we talked about them last time we were on okay yeah yeah and you thought

01:31:35.400 Maybe you weren't really sure about it.

01:31:37.040 I don't want to be born on a ship that's predestined to go somewhere

01:31:40.140 because someone three generations before me mandated that.

01:31:44.720 But what if we need you?

01:31:48.000 When we land, we need me.

01:31:49.680 What if we need you?

01:31:50.580 What if you're out there for a purpose?

01:31:53.080 Because somebody's going to be born on a ship in space and have to save us.

01:31:57.380 You think that'll be how that goes?

01:31:58.620 That's a good science fiction story, right?

01:32:01.240 So they are the chosen one.

01:32:04.300 They are the savior.

01:32:05.400 They're the one, they're Neo in the matrix.

01:32:08.800 It's gotta happen, don't you think?

01:32:10.800 That's a modern day Jesus.

01:32:12.020 Jesus was the savior.

01:32:13.900 The story of a hero always repeats itself.

01:32:15.940 It feels like we need one.

01:32:18.160 A savior, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:20.660 So all these private companies are participating

01:32:23.860 and they'll each do what they do best

01:32:25.680 and you bring it all together

01:32:27.100 and you get the best of private enterprise

01:32:28.680 which runs efficiently and they'll bring the cost down. 0.99

01:32:33.180 So, but if they have a damn Jenny's ice cream on the moon or whatever, I'm going to fucking 0.99

01:32:37.460 what's, why you got a problem with that? 0.99

01:32:39.100 I don't know.

01:32:39.640 In our town where I live at, they took a lot of the, um, like mom and pop stuff and they

01:32:44.460 put in the bigger stuff.

01:32:45.600 It's okay.

01:32:46.380 Oh, you want.

01:32:47.840 Okay.

01:32:48.340 Well, if it's a frontier, maybe mom and pops will be the ones who do it.

01:32:51.640 Yeah, you're right.

01:32:52.580 That's a good point.

01:32:53.200 So it usually starts that way. 0.54

01:32:54.520 That's true.

01:32:54.980 Right.

01:32:55.280 Right.

01:32:55.520 Cause it's not a big enough industry yet for the big companies to buy everybody out.

01:32:59.900 That's true.

01:33:00.340 And I joke about this, you know, on the moon,

01:33:02.040 if they want to have a colony on the moon,

01:33:04.120 they have restaurants, right?

01:33:06.120 But you have to cook a little differently

01:33:07.480 because the gravity is different and the air is, you know,

01:33:10.620 and-

01:33:11.460 Yeah, you have that whole chapter on gravity and-

01:33:13.320 Yes, yes, a whole thing, a whole thing.

01:33:15.760 But here's my bad dad joke, okay?

01:33:18.720 But you have to promise to laugh.

01:33:20.120 Okay.

01:33:21.620 That wasn't very confident.

01:33:23.260 That was like, really?

01:33:24.960 No, I got you.

01:33:26.060 Okay.

01:33:26.900 You got my back on this one?

01:33:28.000 Yes, sir.

01:33:28.840 No, restaurants on the moon

01:33:29.900 would surely have an interesting menu.

01:33:33.020 They just won't have any atmosphere.

01:33:36.900 Is that an authentic laugh?

01:33:38.800 I thought it was pretty good.

01:33:39.820 Okay.

01:33:40.500 Yeah, I'll tell that to someone.

01:33:42.280 Okay, restaurant with no atmosphere.

01:33:44.320 Yeah, I'll tell that to someone.

01:33:46.360 So a lot of what Elon Musk,

01:33:48.120 you know, people, you know,

01:33:50.540 sometimes he goes off the rails and off the chain, but-

01:33:54.800 I think he literally goes off the rails sometimes.

01:33:56.440 What he has done through his efforts

01:33:59.820 is reduce the cost of access to space.

01:34:03.420 And that enables whole industries to jump in and play.

01:34:06.380 How has he done that?

01:34:07.620 Well, so for one, he's reusing his rockets, okay?

01:34:11.860 He has boosters that go up,

01:34:13.680 and he leaves a little bit of extra fuel in the booster,

01:34:16.960 and then the computers take over,

01:34:18.200 and the boosters fall back to Earth,

01:34:19.920 and they land on pads. 0.99

01:34:21.340 Damn, they gonna hit a shrimp boat down there. 0.99

01:34:23.460 Well, actually, so depending on the trajectory, 0.99

01:34:28.940 they'll either come all the way back to Cape Canaveral

01:34:30.860 or they have a landing pad out in the ocean

01:34:33.760 and they'll land on the landing pad.

01:34:34.860 Oh, they're going to miss that bit.

01:34:36.480 They're going to miss that bit.

01:34:38.040 That'll be bad.

01:34:38.680 Yeah, but I'm telling you,

01:34:39.520 you know how many shrimp boats are going to be out there suddenly?

01:34:41.660 You know how many new LLCs are going to be formed in Louisiana?

01:34:44.140 People waiting.

01:34:45.620 They want to be hit by, they want, no.

01:34:47.740 Oh, waiting for that booster to hit them, bro.

01:34:51.000 Waiting for that rocket, bro.

01:34:52.560 So it's gorgeous.

01:34:53.560 It comes down, and then the legs come out, and then it lands, sticks to the landing.

01:34:57.200 Oh, Larry got hit by that rocket, huh?

01:35:00.240 Larry got hit by that rocket.

01:35:03.280 So think about it.

01:35:04.200 If you flew to Europe, and every time you did that, they pushed the plane off a cliff

01:35:09.360 and rolled out a new one, your ticket would be very expensive.

01:35:13.120 Right.

01:35:13.640 But they reused the planes.

01:35:14.900 And if you reused the rockets, that's one way to cut it down, among others, that they're

01:35:18.780 working on.

01:35:19.160 so

01:35:19.860 we talked about

01:35:21.480 we mentioned gravity

01:35:22.760 just a second ago

01:35:23.260 is gravity changing at all

01:35:24.720 like over time

01:35:25.640 no

01:35:25.800 at all

01:35:26.440 well if you go to a mountaintop

01:35:28.020 you will weigh less

01:35:29.240 on the mountain

01:35:29.740 than at sea level

01:35:30.520 oh really

01:35:30.980 yeah because you're farther away

01:35:32.020 from the center of the earth

01:35:32.960 but if you're just sitting here

01:35:33.980 gravity's not changing

01:35:34.820 okay

01:35:35.280 no

01:35:35.780 all right let's get in

01:35:38.200 let's chat a little bit more

01:35:39.740 and I do want to say too

01:35:41.720 I know the holidays

01:35:42.340 are kind of coming up

01:35:43.140 they're not here yet

01:35:43.680 but I think your book's

01:35:45.460 a good holiday gift

01:35:46.660 oh thank you for saying that

01:35:47.920 I hadn't thought about that

01:35:48.740 yeah

01:35:49.060 just because it's so beautiful.

01:35:50.980 Yeah, it's nice, it's like a nice,

01:35:52.560 it's like something you can get,

01:35:54.020 you could tap in at any moment.

01:35:55.380 And you gift it and it's, you know,

01:35:58.040 most coffee table books you open as a pretty picture,

01:36:00.640 you might read the caption, you close it.

01:36:02.300 This one, you open it and it pulls you in.

01:36:06.140 I wrote it, so should I be saying that?

01:36:08.480 I don't know.

01:36:09.320 But every next fact, because it's been star talkified,

01:36:13.460 the fact has been brought to life

01:36:16.540 with another way to think about that information,

01:36:19.800 then it means more to you.

01:36:22.460 And there's a whole chapter on stuff

01:36:25.120 that people hope they would never have seen again.

01:36:27.440 There's a whole chapter on the periodic table of elements.

01:36:30.560 So for example, okay,

01:36:34.500 do you know the symbol for lead on the periodic table?

01:36:39.060 Do you know what that is?

01:36:40.520 N-A.

01:36:41.680 That's sodium. 1.00

01:36:42.560 Damn. 1.00

01:36:44.320 White lead, they call it. 1.00

01:36:46.540 Interesting, yeah, yeah.

01:36:48.220 So, PB.

01:36:50.660 PB?

01:36:51.500 PB, well, PB, where do you get that,

01:36:53.220 how do you get that from lead?

01:36:54.360 Well, PB is plumbum, which is lead in Latin.

01:37:01.440 Plumbum, plumber.

01:37:04.920 Plumbers used to work in lead.

01:37:06.620 All pipes used to be lead.

01:37:08.980 That's how plumbers get their name, plumb.

01:37:13.060 PB on the periodic table, that's, there you go.

01:37:16.540 I got another one.

01:37:18.180 There's an element we discovered on the sun

01:37:20.920 before we discovered it here on Earth.

01:37:24.020 I think it's called,

01:37:28.860 what is it?

01:37:33.060 We named it after the Greek sun god.

01:37:37.000 Radon.

01:37:38.960 Helios is the Greek sun god

01:37:42.560 and that element is helium.

01:37:45.740 There it is.

01:37:47.080 Helium's good.

01:37:48.000 Yeah.

01:37:48.340 Radon.

01:37:48.900 That was discovered by Marie Curie, the first radioactive element.

01:37:53.000 She died of cancer.

01:37:53.880 It was sad.

01:37:54.580 She didn't discover mercury?

01:37:56.540 No.

01:37:56.900 Mercury's been around forever.

01:37:58.200 You'd think she would have.

01:38:00.000 Why? 1.00

01:38:01.300 Marie Curie?

01:38:04.460 Maybe not.

01:38:05.360 Should I have to laugh at that joke?

01:38:06.980 Maybe not.

01:38:08.360 Maybe I'm off.

01:38:09.600 Okay.

01:38:10.920 Okay.

01:38:11.400 You laughed at my joke.

01:38:12.200 I'll laugh at that one.

01:38:12.960 Okay.

01:38:13.300 That's fair.

01:38:13.800 Okay.

01:38:14.040 Then we cut to me.

01:38:14.800 That was good.

01:38:16.280 I see what you did there.

01:38:17.740 Okay, we're even, dude.

01:38:20.060 Let's talk about just a couple more little things,

01:38:22.400 and then I want to get a few more things about your book,

01:38:25.120 and then we'll get you on your way.

01:38:26.380 And thanks so much for hanging out, Neil.

01:38:27.580 Sure.

01:38:28.000 I appreciate it.

01:38:29.400 But I'm saying I think it's a good holiday gift.

01:38:31.300 And it's not a lot of pressure.

01:38:32.260 Some books, you pick it up.

01:38:32.940 It's a ton of pressure.

01:38:34.060 Yeah, that's good.

01:38:35.080 And personally, I'm not a big reader.

01:38:37.280 If someone hands me a 500-page book, when do you start it?

01:38:41.600 When do you stop?

01:38:42.740 And while busy-

01:38:43.280 Where do you hide it?

01:38:44.800 No, but this is not that.

01:38:46.960 It's biscuits of information that just rise up,

01:38:51.900 and then you can't not reach for another.

01:38:55.020 It's galactic biscuits, man.

01:38:57.160 Starbohydrates.

01:38:58.320 Okay, that's bad.

01:38:59.220 That's a good one.

01:38:59.780 No, that's good. 1.00

01:39:00.300 Oh, damn. 0.99

01:39:02.200 Starbohydrates? 1.00

01:39:02.740 Yeah.

01:39:03.100 Good, good one.

01:39:03.900 Thanks, thanks.

01:39:05.740 What are you going to be for Halloween?

01:39:07.560 Let's get into that.

01:39:08.100 I was never a Halloween person.

01:39:10.160 Come on, Neil.

01:39:11.320 You know why?

01:39:12.560 Once I learned why people dress up,

01:39:16.200 I said, that's why I don't dress up.

01:39:18.740 Why, do you think it's sacrilegious kind of?

01:39:20.080 No, no, no, no, no.

01:39:20.960 People dress up because it's the one day

01:39:23.300 where they can be something in their fantasies.

01:39:26.620 Okay?

01:39:28.060 And I never had fantasies.

01:39:30.980 I never had, I was a very literal kid.

01:39:35.480 You were just a reality-based.

01:39:37.020 Yeah, I was completely reality-based.

01:39:39.400 And so to dress up like something

01:39:41.460 and pretend to be that, I was just myself.

01:39:45.160 I didn't need to pretend.

01:39:46.260 So I was a literal kid.

01:39:47.680 And I was much later before I would appreciate

01:39:51.100 what it is to be fully human,

01:39:55.620 which is you have feelings, emotions, you cry, you-

01:39:59.020 That came later in life for you?

01:39:59.900 Later in life.

01:40:00.900 Later in life.

01:40:02.000 Wow.

01:40:02.680 In my life, I have never,

01:40:04.560 we used to have telephones with handsets.

01:40:07.120 I've never slammed down the handset.

01:40:09.560 That's an emotion that I've never slammed a door

01:40:12.040 out of anger.

01:40:13.440 I just never had that,

01:40:14.920 which is weird because I used to wrestle.

01:40:17.120 I spent eight,

01:40:17.680 I was captain in my high school wrestling team.

01:40:19.720 So, but it was,

01:40:22.060 if someone beat me,

01:40:23.500 it was like, good.

01:40:26.080 Now I know I need to get better.

01:40:27.700 It wasn't, I'm angry.

01:40:28.840 Let me run.

01:40:29.260 No, I'd never had emotions like that.

01:40:31.780 So I'm enchanted by Halloween,

01:40:34.800 but I'd never had the urge to dress up.

01:40:37.100 Now you can say,

01:40:37.700 If I did dress up, what would it be?

01:40:39.260 I'll tell you.

01:40:39.940 That's fair.

01:40:40.580 I'll tell you.

01:40:42.020 I would be a nerd savior man.

01:40:49.580 Okay?

01:40:50.140 I don't have a word for it.

01:40:52.000 Because in high school, because like I said, I used to wrestle.

01:40:54.780 I was 190 pounds in high school, captain and undefeated.

01:40:57.740 But I went to a geeky high school.

01:40:59.820 So everybody's a geek.

01:41:00.800 And there's a high school across the way that would take our lunch money every time.

01:41:05.640 Okay?

01:41:05.900 and I wanted to fight against that.

01:41:10.260 So I had this fantasy that first I could fly

01:41:13.560 and that if there was a geek in trouble,

01:41:15.620 they'd beam like digits of pie on the sky.

01:41:19.200 And the more digits of pie,

01:41:21.060 the more serious the situation was.

01:41:23.180 And I see it in the sky and I fly and it come down

01:41:26.920 and the kid would be wedgied or something on the hook

01:41:31.520 or something that cool kids did to geeky kids. 1.00

01:41:35.700 and I would just pummel the shit out of them. 1.00

01:41:38.640 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:39.300 And I'd say, go forth in freedom.

01:41:42.680 But I'm a geek too, so I'm a geek protector.

01:41:45.220 But you're a boss geek.

01:41:46.260 Yes, I was a kick-ass geek protector.

01:41:49.680 Yeah.

01:41:50.040 And to this day, if I see geeks getting abused in the street

01:41:54.600 because they're not as cool, they're not dressed as nice, 1.00

01:41:56.840 I will intervene because I know I can kick some ass if I have to. 0.99

01:42:03.140 Plus, I used to study martial arts, 0.98

01:42:04.560 but more as a curiosity thing but and i wanted to be bruce lee you know um not for halloween but

01:42:11.480 yeah so um the moral to that for me is just i i don't like seeing people harmed or abused just

01:42:25.660 for being who they are amen yeah i agree with you though right right on that yeah it's not good

01:42:30.800 Yeah, it's just, it's, well, what do I mean?

01:42:32.800 It's not good.

01:42:33.440 Of course it's not.

01:42:34.120 But yeah, I agree with you that.

01:42:36.580 Yeah, there's something about like.

01:42:38.260 They didn't do anything to you.

01:42:39.780 They didn't.

01:42:40.360 And they're already the underdog.

01:42:41.520 Right, right.

01:42:42.420 Sometime.

01:42:42.840 Yeah, right.

01:42:43.440 Now, you know, a lot of that changed in my life.

01:42:45.660 I don't know why I'm a little older than you.

01:42:46.320 A lot of it's changed in our life.

01:42:47.220 Yeah, yes, it has.

01:42:48.160 Because the bullies learned that the geeks know how to program their computer.

01:42:55.780 Yeah. 0.94

01:42:56.120 I could help them with the math homework. 1.00

01:42:58.060 And now the world is run by geeks. 0.94

01:43:00.200 run by geeks. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to just, in other words, the most powerful people

01:43:04.560 in the world are geeks on the spectrum, half of them. Yeah. I think half of them are on the

01:43:07.900 spectrum. Do you believe that? I, one out of six, I, I'm not clinically authorized to make this

01:43:15.840 diagnosis, but based on being around my colleagues, my whole life, I would say one in six, one in five

01:43:22.140 is on the spectrum in some way. Perfectly happy in the lab. Eye contact is a little difficult,

01:43:27.500 but do you think that that's why we're starting like we create more stuff that

01:43:31.280 like is tech but there's not of the that we're losing the connection because

01:43:35.660 oh interesting point because they they're very focused and they can

01:43:38.620 right but they sometimes lack an element of being able to read certain like that's deep

01:43:44.040 and i i'd have to do the research to conclude that but let me restate what i think you just said

01:43:49.420 okay if geeks on the spectrum are inventing the next wave technology should we be surprised that

01:43:55.200 that next wave technology has no understanding

01:44:00.060 or sensitivity to the human element,

01:44:04.100 the interpersonal human element.

01:44:05.840 Because that wasn't in the people

01:44:07.600 who invented it in the first place.

01:44:09.120 Yeah.

01:44:10.040 That's deep.

01:44:12.920 I wonder if that's true.

01:44:15.600 Because here we are,

01:44:17.340 and we're letting these guys do some stuff.

01:44:19.540 Right.

01:44:20.420 And we're all, it's hurting.

01:44:22.260 It's hurting, and they didn't want it

01:44:24.420 to hurt on purpose.

01:44:25.260 No.

01:44:26.080 They just didn't have the need for themselves.

01:44:27.600 Right, they didn't understand.

01:44:28.680 Right.

01:44:29.520 So why would they incorporate it?

01:44:30.360 Right, why would they even know

01:44:32.720 that you would become so addicted to your social media

01:44:36.940 and how you look to other people?

01:44:38.660 What's it called, your self-image?

01:44:41.900 It's, you know, you enter a depressed state

01:44:46.280 because you're not as beautiful as other people

01:44:48.700 who are online curating their presence.

01:44:52.800 Right.

01:44:53.540 even know that they're not even real yeah we're not they're not authentic i should say yeah so

01:44:59.940 the creators don't understand that because they don't have that software maybe that's intriguing

01:45:04.340 i'd be curious to see what research says about that and i'm not saying all people that are on

01:45:08.900 no no but it's a hypothesis worth testing oh i like that dude now we're doing something together

01:45:14.620 that's exciting yeah i was trying to think of some good what is this one right here oh pie in

01:45:19.720 the sky there that's a that would be a serious bro you look tough neil oh i didn't create that

01:45:26.380 that's somebody i don't know who did but still that looks good what about uh michael we are now

01:45:30.700 looking at ai rendered version of me with a pie superhero outfit with a cape stars on it and there

01:45:38.600 must be 500 digits of pie in the sky that means the world is about to end and i think that's uh

01:45:45.360 current what about a halloween costume mike degrasse tyson see if you can put that in ai see what

01:45:51.100 happens no well the thing about science is you know and then there's the supermodel tyson beckford

01:45:59.560 oh here you go oh oh let's go oh dude let me say what's it say on my arm there

01:46:07.080 Frick or knock out

01:46:10.000 What about Tyson chicken nugget

01:46:15.480 That would be good

01:46:16.120 If he was a little nugget

01:46:18.060 That'd be good

01:46:19.280 You'd eat yourself too probably 0.97

01:46:20.580 That works until you die

01:46:23.860 That's true

01:46:25.560 But hey if you're starving

01:46:26.740 That'd be a risky moment

01:46:27.820 Wouldn't it be

01:46:28.440 That'd be a risky moment

01:46:31.100 That's cute Neil

01:46:32.840 You do not look happy about it

01:46:34.260 But you would definitely

01:46:36.900 you probably have a little bit of yourself chicken tender chicken tender is good um no let me see

01:46:42.740 with tyson beckford because he's a supermodel yeah let's see if let's at least if i look hot

01:46:46.780 at the very least if i could look hot with tyson beckford or neil degrossi tyson to put that in

01:46:52.560 there that's um you don't mean the degrossi high yeah remember that that'd be weird how are they

01:46:57.920 gonna they can't i can't mash that that doesn't you know it's science

01:47:02.180 there you go why am i in a wheelchair because that character was in a wheelchair drake's character

01:47:10.400 but tyson beckford no no this is degrassi neil degrassi oh oh gotcha gotcha you stepped ahead

01:47:17.120 of me there yeah this is no that looks innocent enough that looks good yeah

01:47:20.720 let's go oh dude that's awesome man well look there you go eat look i'll say this

01:47:31.520 you got some great costumes that come that just because you exist some cool new universes can

01:47:37.920 show up in the world i officially give you my permission to post these that you just created

01:47:42.820 okay thank you of me in there okay thank you okay um oh there he goes yeah that was drake i forgot

01:47:49.280 that was drake yeah that was him man yeah he's talented um let me see where can we uh did you

01:47:55.960 ever want to be abducted by aliens do you fear them or do you

01:48:00.880 i more than ever would like them to come get me really yeah and that's the truth i think and i

01:48:12.420 don't mean that in any like i'm scared for my life way or anything like that or i'm gonna yeah but so

01:48:16.100 my same sentiment is maybe for a different reason i i want to be abducted ever since a child i've

01:48:22.760 since I was 10 years old.

01:48:24.680 I wanted to be abducted,

01:48:25.980 not because I wanted to leave Earth,

01:48:28.300 but that I wanted to see

01:48:30.180 what the rest of the universe was like.

01:48:31.840 And if they could abduct me,

01:48:33.000 they clearly have access to the universe

01:48:35.580 in ways that I don't.

01:48:36.720 So it was because I was a curious,

01:48:38.820 cosmically curious kid.

01:48:41.140 Wow, that's pretty cool, man.

01:48:42.580 Yeah.

01:48:43.020 Did you ever feel like they might not abduct you

01:48:45.140 because of your skin color?

01:48:47.240 Never. 0.93

01:48:49.180 Never.

01:48:49.640 They're aliens, for goodness sake.

01:48:51.180 I didn't mean that in a bad way.

01:48:52.140 No, no, no.

01:48:52.760 No, I had no such thoughts because-

01:48:55.320 Because I've had black friends that are like, 1.00

01:48:56.640 aliens don't abduct us and this type of shit. 1.00

01:48:58.880 Oh, there was the Key and Peele skit. 1.00

01:49:01.760 Huh?

01:49:02.600 You know the Key and Peele skit?

01:49:03.440 Uh-uh.

01:49:04.280 It was hilarious.

01:49:05.120 It's a suburbia, right?

01:49:06.800 They're so funny.

01:49:07.640 And there's zombies coming up the street, 0.98

01:49:11.800 and they turn to this home where black people live, 0.96

01:49:17.160 and it goes around back and they're barbecuing, 0.96

01:49:19.560 and then the zombie just recoils,

01:49:22.160 and then goes back to the street 0.97

01:49:23.580 and chases the white people. 1.00

01:49:25.780 So these are like racist zombies. 0.99

01:49:30.040 It's a whole skit, it's an entire skit. 1.00

01:49:32.960 And so all the black people just hanging out 0.99

01:49:35.480 on lawn chairs and the white people are just going crazy. 0.96

01:49:38.960 So I had no such thoughts that Alien would somehow 0.91

01:49:41.820 see me as a black human, just as a human.

01:49:44.720 But I knew, because I'm old enough to remember,

01:49:46.920 the Apollo program, the Mercury Seven astronauts

01:49:50.240 and all these guys, none of them looked like me

01:49:54.240 in the slightest.

01:49:55.880 Not only that, on Broadway was the number one hit musical,

01:50:00.480 Hair, and none of these guys had hair longer

01:50:04.500 than an inch on their head, all these crew cuts.

01:50:07.760 So I was interested in space,

01:50:10.280 not because of the Apollo program,

01:50:12.400 because it looked like there was nothing in there for me.

01:50:14.700 Wow.

01:50:15.540 And it was more pure curiosity with the universe,

01:50:19.100 and me and the aliens will take it.

01:50:20.720 Wow.

01:50:21.580 Yeah.

01:50:22.120 If you got in there, right, say they come and get you, okay?

01:50:25.280 They're doing a special, right?

01:50:28.140 And they want to get different types of folks up there.

01:50:30.820 Uh-huh.

01:50:31.420 You know? 1.00

01:50:32.040 The whites aren't cutting it anymore. 0.99

01:50:34.580 Well, no, just think about it. 0.94

01:50:36.060 Ask yourself this, okay?

01:50:38.600 When you look at pigeons, are you grouping them into kinds of pigeons?

01:50:45.080 No, you're not because they're just pigeons to you.

01:50:47.220 but if you really did it some surface patterns of their feathers are different okay and when you look

01:50:55.320 at an alligator do you even know who's a female and who's a male alligator no no you don't and

01:51:02.200 do you know what the pet you don't even care because you are so different from the alligator

01:51:07.060 you're not focused on how alligators different from each other you're focused on the fact that 0.96

01:51:12.660 It's a fricking alligator. 0.95

01:51:13.900 Yeah. 0.97

01:51:14.740 So, if you're an octopus and you look at humans,

01:51:20.900 are you saying, oh, this human has a different color skin

01:51:22.840 than this human?

01:51:23.680 No, you're a creature that swims in the ocean

01:51:26.660 with eight legs, okay? 0.99

01:51:29.880 All you're gonna see are these humanoid things

01:51:34.000 that have a head, only four limbs and not eight, okay?

01:51:38.940 And you're living in the air, not in the water.

01:51:41.240 that will preoccupy your awareness of them.

01:51:44.140 If humanoid aliens came,

01:51:46.220 which is all Hollywood can think of creating, 0.95

01:51:49.920 the octopus will not distinguish between us and them.

01:51:54.660 Because they always have two eyes, a nose, a mouth,

01:51:57.180 a head, shoulders, neck, arms, legs, torso, feet,

01:52:00.680 arms, hands, and fingers.

01:52:02.280 And that's it.

01:52:03.120 That's what we, do you know,

01:52:04.940 do you realize that all life on earth has common DNA?

01:52:09.940 and that bananas have 25% identical genes to human beings.

01:52:16.980 Nuh-uh.

01:52:18.120 And because of that, if you get an alien from another planet

01:52:21.680 that has no DNA at all or has DNA,

01:52:25.880 but none of it is in common with us,

01:52:28.040 it should look at least as different from humans

01:52:31.360 as bananas and humans look from each other.

01:52:35.040 And all Hollywood depictions are they're walking,

01:52:37.640 they're talking and walking, coming down the street.

01:52:39.320 Whistling.

01:52:39.940 You know, so I had no such thoughts

01:52:45.580 that aliens will notice my skin color.

01:52:48.740 And I'm pretty sure any future aliens would feel the same.

01:52:52.240 I just didn't know because a lot of abductions

01:52:54.760 seem like it's a lot of times often a guy

01:52:57.840 that it seems kind of white. 1.00

01:52:59.580 Yeah, well, actually one of the first

01:53:01.320 and most famous abductions, you can look this one up,

01:53:03.740 is the Betty and Barney Hill case.

01:53:06.800 Barney Hill was a black man.

01:53:08.600 Was he? 0.99

01:53:08.940 Betty Hill was a white woman. 0.66

01:53:10.660 Let me see him. 0.83

01:53:11.600 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:53:14.000 Oh, yeah, he looks kind of black. 0.99

01:53:15.540 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:16.380 Barney and Betty Hill were American couple

01:53:18.080 and civil rights activists

01:53:19.600 who claimed they were abducted by extraterrestrials

01:53:22.300 in a rural portion of the state of New Hampshire

01:53:24.540 from September 19th to 20th, 1961.

01:53:28.400 The incident came to be called the Hill Abduction

01:53:30.380 and the Zeta Reticuli Incident

01:53:32.840 because two UFOlogists connected the star map

01:53:36.260 allegedly shown to Betty Hill

01:53:37.540 with the Zetter reticuli system.

01:53:39.560 The story was adapted into the best-selling 1966 book,

01:53:42.940 The Interrupted Journey,

01:53:44.580 and the television film, The UFO Incident.

01:53:47.240 And that television film,

01:53:49.020 James Earl Jones played Barney Hill.

01:53:52.380 Did he really?

01:53:53.220 Yeah, yeah, it was pretty cool, very cool.

01:53:54.780 But so anyhow, so-

01:53:56.660 And you obviously played James Earl Jones.

01:54:00.420 This is CNN.

01:54:02.500 so so uh so anyhow so aliens early on have been abducting black people but not in the numbers 0.77

01:54:13.340 that they do of white people but this is an early mixed couple that might have been why they got

01:54:16.640 them oh you know what i'm saying it might have been oh who knows and they look like a beautiful

01:54:23.180 couple yes they're very well groomed i think is the way they look like a beautiful couple and i'm

01:54:27.340 I'm glad they got brought back.

01:54:28.380 Did they get brought back?

01:54:29.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:54:30.060 Okay, good.

01:54:30.880 And so I'm just saying there's precedent 0.75

01:54:34.340 for at least some black people to be abducted, 1.00

01:54:36.500 but you are correct. 1.00

01:54:37.700 The overwhelming majority are white people

01:54:40.680 and English-speaking people.

01:54:44.480 If you look at a map of all reported UFO incidents

01:54:47.680 in the world, go MUFON, M-U-F-O-N, they'll have a map.

01:54:53.480 Mapped, there, UFO sighting maps.

01:54:55.680 That's it.

01:54:57.060 Whoa, okay, notice hardly any in Mexico,

01:55:00.840 every dot there on this map is a reported UFO sighting.

01:55:05.680 Now, it could be that if you don't speak English,

01:55:08.060 you don't know where to report it.

01:55:09.300 That could be so, I get it, but-

01:55:12.080 But you could just tell your friend.

01:55:13.500 Difference here is staggered.

01:55:17.060 You know what I'm saying, bro?

01:55:17.980 Now, rotate the map or go to some other place.

01:55:20.320 Can you rotate the map?

01:55:22.880 There you go, rotate it around.

01:55:24.380 Look at that. 0.90

01:55:25.640 Okay, a little bit in India.

01:55:26.840 keep turning, England, there you go.

01:55:30.660 And then right across the channel.

01:55:33.820 Okay, now come down to Australia.

01:55:36.800 Okay, well Australia doesn't have many people to begin with,

01:55:39.220 but in all the major cities are sightings, correct.

01:55:41.940 And what about China, are they reporting them?

01:55:44.160 They're not allowed to, are they? 0.89

01:55:45.800 You know, I'm just saying this UFO thing

01:55:48.720 is such an American phenomenon. 0.99

01:55:51.620 And so either the aliens just like English speaking people, 0.99

01:55:56.840 Or no one else gives a shit. 1.00

01:56:00.460 Or it's just, the English people know better 0.99

01:56:04.940 how to report their sightings than other people do.

01:56:07.240 Or we're more gullible in thinking

01:56:09.280 that something is aliens

01:56:10.480 when it's just some natural phenomenon.

01:56:12.480 So this map is staggering, I think.

01:56:17.160 And dude, I'll tell you this, honestly,

01:56:19.540 I think that the final war on the planet 1.00

01:56:23.600 is gonna be blacks versus aliens. 0.99

01:56:26.080 Really? 1.00

01:56:26.680 Black humans versus aliens, yeah. 0.88

01:56:28.220 Really? 0.96

01:56:28.820 So that's a movie that looks like it's going to be in the sequence

01:56:32.340 with Predator versus aliens.

01:56:35.560 I mean.

01:56:36.600 Predator versus aliens.

01:56:38.560 Humans versus aliens. 1.00

01:56:39.540 Black people versus aliens. 1.00

01:56:40.860 Okay. 1.00

01:56:41.600 Because somebody's going to have to battle them.

01:56:46.820 Oh.

01:56:47.760 And I don't.

01:56:48.520 Let me cut you off here.

01:56:49.780 Is it like, wasn't there some movie called Jason Takes Manhattan?

01:56:55.240 and someone did a parody on that jason tries to take harlem

01:57:00.660 jason comes up with this mask and action boom get out get out of my back 0.98

01:57:07.700 black people are not going to stand for this they're not black people at a certain point 1.00

01:57:13.160 are not going to stand for aliens bullshit yeah yeah and i think more of a white uh society 1.00

01:57:18.260 will just fall into it too easy at a certain point black people are going to detect this 1.00

01:57:23.860 bullshit we've all seen the videos of people trying to to scare black people with halloween 1.00

01:57:28.540 trick like someone pops out of the can get punched yeah it's just yeah stay in the can 1.00

01:57:34.180 stay in the can yeah i see i see that's interesting so all the white people of the

01:57:39.520 world would have acquiesced to the demands of the aliens and would have just gotten absorbed 0.51

01:57:45.460 and black people are holding out yeah it'll be the final battle yeah i think that they end up 0.86

01:57:50.280 being the savers of the world wow wow because i think it's just like that's a movie because 0.86

01:57:56.440 every great story is the arc you know that that missed its time that should have come out like 0.99

01:58:00.900 1973 that movie with black exploitation films where black people are kicking ass and it was 0.98

01:58:06.260 okay for everybody to do even white people said okay we'll give it to you because we've been so 1.00

01:58:11.380 hard on you all these years well you kick our ass for a few for a few years in the movies that 0.99

01:58:16.420 That would have been a good time, Black People Versus. 0.99

01:58:18.560 But I'm talking about. 0.83

01:58:19.400 That one had the movie Blackula.

01:58:21.640 Did they have that?

01:58:22.860 Yes, Blackula. 1.00

01:58:24.380 Oh, damn. 1.00

01:58:25.180 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:58:26.040 So that was the era where this movie should.

01:58:31.680 Who is that?

01:58:32.520 It's not Richard Pryor, is it?

01:58:33.360 No, no, no, no, no.

01:58:34.660 It was a serious movie.

01:58:35.880 It looks like it would be a joke, but no.

01:58:38.660 I would love to see that. 0.99

01:58:40.040 And look, there he is, biting some white chick. 0.98

01:58:43.880 I've seen that before. 0.97

01:58:46.120 But no, I think, I'm not even joking, Neil.

01:58:48.360 I believe that that is going to be the, that's going to be the battle.

01:58:50.760 And I believe that they saved the planet.

01:58:54.320 That's what I believe.

01:58:55.260 Somebody is going to hear this podcast and is going to write that script.

01:59:00.140 We need it.

01:59:01.500 We need it.

01:59:02.640 I mean, I'm at a point where like we need, that's what,

01:59:04.900 because I don't know what else can save everything.

01:59:07.300 Yeah, yeah.

01:59:08.620 Another thing, they come down to these badass spaceships

01:59:11.660 and here we are getting our guns out of the cabinet and shooting at,

01:59:15.220 really like don't you just see what has happened here the bullet will like absorb into their ship

01:59:21.460 and it will become part of their ship yeah for example right yeah can you just extrapolate 0.98

01:59:27.220 what's happening here so that's right so the black people we don't have as many guns as the 0.95

01:59:32.880 white people do but we would know the guns would be pointless we'd have to find some other way to

01:59:37.160 get them they'll figure it out yeah maybe barbecue you think that seems racial 0.64

01:59:44.260 that seems racial to me dude

01:59:47.500 after all the stuff we've said 0.93

01:59:49.680 I know they'll listen to our music

01:59:50.820 they'll listen to jazz jazz will

01:59:52.840 oh now we're talking

01:59:55.460 yeah and then the aliens just be chilling

01:59:57.220 smoking

01:59:58.520 dude that's how they'll

02:00:08.440 there'll be some way but that's how

02:00:10.720 that'll be

02:00:11.720 it'll be their muse

02:00:14.240 I believe that.

02:00:14.980 It'll be there.

02:00:16.740 I've always believed that.

02:00:17.620 How long have I said that for, Nick?

02:00:18.900 That which calms...

02:00:20.620 26 years ago.

02:00:21.640 How long ago?

02:00:22.220 Two to six years ago.

02:00:22.900 Two to six years ago, sorry.

02:00:24.760 That which calms the inner beast of the alien

02:00:28.220 is some smooth jazz.

02:00:33.660 Your book, before you go,

02:00:35.280 yeah, anything else about aliens

02:00:36.880 or we can go into your book

02:00:37.600 as a chapter on the Zodiac.

02:00:38.860 So thanks for giving my alien book a shout out.

02:00:41.100 It came out earlier this year, back in May.

02:00:43.920 Take Me to Your Leader, yeah, yeah.

02:00:46.420 It's a small book, very fits in your pocket kind of thing.

02:00:49.640 And that book is like everything you need to know

02:00:52.900 for your alien encounter, and it's grounded in physics.

02:00:55.220 I mean, so it's not, it's to try to anchor

02:00:58.840 the conversations people are having about what they see,

02:01:01.260 what they think they see, what they wanna see,

02:01:04.320 it's in there.

02:01:05.160 There's a chapter on alien intelligence,

02:01:07.160 alien technology, alien powers.

02:01:09.840 what powers do aliens show in a movie

02:01:14.600 that might be possible on Earth,

02:01:16.260 even if it's beyond our current technologies?

02:01:19.100 So it's a very serious but fun exploration in that.

02:01:23.420 So thanks for giving that a shout out.

02:01:25.440 But the Lost in Space, like I said,

02:01:28.240 that's a big fat old 5,000 fact book.

02:01:31.800 Yeah.

02:01:32.940 National Geographic, they don't do ugly, right?

02:01:36.840 Oh yeah, some of the images and just like, yeah.

02:01:38.880 It's a nice journey of, like, kind of information and enjoying yourself.

02:01:43.560 You're laying on a couch.

02:01:44.680 You're enjoying something.

02:01:45.980 You're sitting there.

02:01:46.820 You got to dip in.

02:01:48.300 Yeah, put a dip in.

02:01:49.440 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:50.140 And, you know, for my podcast, I wanted it to have a tagline,

02:01:54.660 but a marketing person nixed it.

02:01:57.160 Because you come and you have fun and you learn something.

02:02:00.140 So the tagline was, learn something for a change.

02:02:03.660 That's what I was going to say.

02:02:04.860 And they said, no, that's too off-put.

02:02:07.400 But it was too, and so in this book,

02:02:11.000 it's like learn something for a change, yeah, yeah.

02:02:14.100 Last question before you go, I guess.

02:02:16.060 All right.

02:02:17.140 Could aliens bring new elements and stuff

02:02:21.200 and new science here that we haven't seen?

02:02:23.620 Like, would it alter the fabric of our science?

02:02:26.560 Does that make sense?

02:02:27.400 Yeah, it's a great question.

02:02:28.240 So in the chapter Alien Powers

02:02:30.000 and Alien Science and Technology,

02:02:32.020 I explore the science that we have discovered on Earth

02:02:37.260 that applies across the universe and across time.

02:02:40.840 They are beholden to that.

02:02:43.120 But then there's other things about the universe

02:02:47.780 that are mysteries to us that they might have harnessed,

02:02:53.280 like dark matter, dark energy, wormholes.

02:02:57.260 You know how to make a wormhole?

02:02:58.620 You need a negative gravity material.

02:03:03.120 It'd be a substance, normal things have gravity,

02:03:06.000 This is negative gravity.

02:03:06.940 Like what, mud or something?

02:03:08.060 No, no, no, it's just, it doesn't exist.

02:03:10.080 We don't know.

02:03:11.060 But maybe an alien figured out how to make it.

02:03:13.920 And if you can make a negative gravity thing,

02:03:15.900 instead of bringing things together, which gravity does,

02:03:18.000 it pries things apart,

02:03:19.540 which is what you need to make a wormhole.

02:03:22.000 Yeah.

02:03:23.320 So, but here's the thing, if they master wormholes,

02:03:26.020 then they connect where they are to where we are,

02:03:28.020 and they just step through, they wouldn't need spaceships.

02:03:32.540 They would step through like Rick and Morty.

02:03:34.540 You know, Rick has a, he opens a portal.

02:03:37.320 Or who's this dude in the Avengers?

02:03:41.560 Doctor Strange, you just step through.

02:03:43.480 And they would just be here.

02:03:44.720 They'd just be here, if it's a proper wormhole.

02:03:47.000 Right, it's not a whole tube that you pass through.

02:03:49.440 You just step through.

02:03:50.520 So if they mastered that,

02:03:52.780 then they would not be seen in spaceships.

02:03:55.960 Where would you go if you could wormhole?

02:03:58.060 Oh.

02:04:02.000 Center of the galaxy.

02:04:03.720 That's gotta be bad.

02:04:04.740 There's a supermassive black hole there.

02:04:06.800 I would need radiation protection

02:04:08.440 because there's a lot of lethal electromagnetic energy

02:04:13.440 coming out of there,

02:04:14.280 but the center of the galaxy feels cool to me.

02:04:16.720 How many people have we sent there?

02:04:18.640 Zero.

02:04:19.680 Ever?

02:04:20.520 To the center of the galaxy?

02:04:21.840 Yeah.

02:04:22.680 What do you mean?

02:04:23.520 We've only been to the moon like six times.

02:04:26.000 Oh, man.

02:04:26.840 So what do you mean?

02:04:27.680 The center of the galaxy is like- 0.99

02:04:28.520 Well, fuck it's good, yeah. 0.99

02:04:30.040 30,000 light years away. 1.00

02:04:31.440 Nobody going there.

02:04:32.280 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:04:33.200 Galaxy, dude.

02:04:34.680 Galaxy.

02:04:36.020 I don't know.

02:04:36.860 Okay, well, Earth.

02:04:38.480 Earth and the planets and the sun, solar system.

02:04:40.340 Okay.

02:04:41.580 We and 400 billion other stars.

02:04:43.960 Uh-huh.

02:04:45.020 Milky Way galaxy.

02:04:46.040 Okay.

02:04:46.880 We and thousands of other galaxies,

02:04:49.860 the Virgo supercluster of galaxies.

02:04:52.760 Other superclusters combine the universe.

02:04:55.120 They keep renaming this thing and making it bigger.

02:04:57.320 Bigger and bigger, yeah, as we discover it, yeah.

02:04:59.700 As we discover it.

02:05:00.640 It's like they just kind of give you

02:05:01.540 a little more bread, a little more bread crump.

02:05:04.340 Well, yeah, incremental, that's where we make new telescopes.

02:05:07.220 So is there new physics?

02:05:09.460 There could be, but the physics we know

02:05:12.760 is not going to be different for them.

02:05:15.460 So our physics would have to apply to them?

02:05:18.440 Certain aspects of our physics, yes,

02:05:20.400 because we've tested it on Earth and across the universe.

02:05:24.100 So the periodic table of elements,

02:05:25.980 which you saw in your chemistry class, that is full.

02:05:29.780 it used to have gaps in it and we said wait there's a gap here there must be an element

02:05:34.460 let's look for it let's synthesize it let's create it bada bing here's the element the first element

02:05:41.520 this is in the book the first element that was manufactured because there was a gap in the whole

02:05:47.500 element do we see this in nature no nature doesn't make this element let's make it ourselves that's

02:05:53.260 how badass we are we made this element and we named it after the prefix we use for things that

02:05:59.680 artificially made you know that prefix tech it's called tech nicium technicium we invented that

02:06:07.680 and wow i and that's a real element yeah in fact this has very important and significant

02:06:16.480 medical application and can you just buy it or is it like i've never tried their labs that can

02:06:22.000 synthesize it but wow yeah you can't know what are you gonna do i mean what would you do with

02:06:27.420 I don't know, I'm just half some.

02:06:29.540 I guess, I don't even know.

02:06:30.920 I didn't know it existed.

02:06:32.740 Well, right, so there's-

02:06:33.640 Yes, you can buy technetium.

02:06:36.160 Technetium, but it is strictly regulated

02:06:38.080 and very difficult for private individuals

02:06:39.840 to obtain in pure form because it is radioactive.

02:06:42.880 Yes.

02:06:43.620 Never mind.

02:06:45.620 Radioactive.

02:06:46.140 Do not want that in my house. 1.00

02:06:46.860 Want to keep your gonads. 1.00

02:06:48.140 Yeah.

02:06:49.600 So the element is full.

02:06:52.760 When the Knicks were in the playoffs,

02:06:56.000 They hadn't been since I was in middle school.

02:06:58.380 Wow.

02:06:58.680 Okay.

02:06:58.920 52 years or something.

02:06:59.860 Yeah, yeah. 0.94

02:07:00.720 I'm an old fart. 0.69

02:07:02.340 And so while they were in the playoffs, I tweeted.

02:07:07.040 I said, I forgot the exact number, but it's approximate.

02:07:10.100 I said, the last time the Knicks won the championship,

02:07:14.380 the periodic table had 11 fewer elements.

02:07:17.500 Just to measure time by our rate of discovery of these elements.

02:07:22.100 So we're up to 118.

02:07:23.300 nature only makes 92 of them wow we've manufactured so we got the periodic table

02:07:31.640 that is what the universe is made of materially what i looked like last time new york next

02:07:37.340 championship look at you boy oh yeah see i'm very geeky i got a camera that that was one of the

02:07:44.940 world's first selfies it turns out you know who selfie this before me uh is is colin powell

02:07:51.860 has a photo of himself in a mirror.

02:07:55.120 So I just thought this would be a cool thing to do

02:07:56.780 when I was 14 or something.

02:07:58.760 Dude, that's cool.

02:07:59.540 So that's one of several posts.

02:08:01.220 And I have like a karate kimono thing on it.

02:08:04.000 Yeah, I can see that, man.

02:08:05.560 So you had some cool hobbies.

02:08:07.120 Yeah, I developed my own film.

02:08:08.980 And I was a geek kid, like I'm saying.

02:08:11.180 Can there be more elements, though?

02:08:13.140 So no, because those elements are just

02:08:15.980 how many protons are in the nucleus.

02:08:19.860 There's an element with one proton that's hydrogen.

02:08:21.640 two protons, helium, three, lithium, four, boron,

02:08:28.800 five, six is carbon, seven is nitrogen, eight is oxygen.

02:08:34.160 Good.

02:08:34.980 They all have names, and they're in sequence.

02:08:37.720 There's no room to fit any other element

02:08:40.360 because we're counting protons.

02:08:42.120 At the high end, we're up to 118 proudly,

02:08:45.660 but maybe the aliens have 119, 120, yes.

02:08:50.220 What about kryptonite?

02:08:51.140 That's entirely, Krypton, that's a gas. 0.82

02:08:54.560 And we have it?

02:08:55.400 That's a gas.

02:08:56.240 Do we have it?

02:08:57.180 Oh yeah. 1.00

02:08:58.020 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:08:58.860 Oh yeah, Krypton, it's a noble gas. 1.00

02:09:02.500 Good.

02:09:03.260 Not that anybody asked, but in the time that has elapsed

02:09:05.540 since the Knicks last won a championship,

02:09:08.400 we've discovered eight new subatomic particles.

02:09:11.400 Dang.

02:09:13.340 The J-psi-mason, the tau-lepton, the bottom quark,

02:09:17.300 the gluon, the WZ-boson, the top quark, the tau-neutrino,

02:09:21.000 and the Higgs boson, Nobel Prizes all around.

02:09:24.760 And they are all entering the portal as well this week.

02:09:27.180 Probably, I'll say that.

02:09:28.020 What's the next one?

02:09:28.860 Not that anybody asked, but the last time

02:09:30.060 the New York Knicks won a championship,

02:09:31.880 Steven Spielberg had not yet made

02:09:34.440 a feature-length movie about aliens.

02:09:37.120 That's how long ago that was, that's all I'm saying.

02:09:42.280 So whatever they make their craft out of,

02:09:45.100 it's gotta be these ingredients.

02:09:46.500 Got it.

02:09:47.660 So I can talk about these ingredients that they have.

02:09:50.660 Maybe they may have some fancy alloy, sure,

02:09:52.700 but they'll be made of these ingredients.

02:09:55.380 Do they have negative gravity substance?

02:09:58.560 Maybe, I don't know.

02:10:00.000 I'm not going to preclude that.

02:10:01.740 Maybe they figure that out.

02:10:03.780 Can they read your mind?

02:10:09.460 If they get close enough, maybe,

02:10:11.660 because your brain is electromagnetic signals.

02:10:14.980 It does?

02:10:15.700 Yes, and that's why you can put electrodes on your head

02:10:18.840 and read your brain waves.

02:10:19.940 so yes in principle yes we don't know how to do that yet but i give that to them yeah no give

02:10:27.620 it to them they're more advanced sure they came all the way here give it to them yeah so there's

02:10:31.820 a whole conversation there about powers they have but i'm not giving them the physics that we've

02:10:38.140 already established got it we're we're good with that yeah and we know that because we can measure

02:10:44.240 atomic phenomenon in other stars and other galaxies across space and throughout time

02:10:51.820 and so we're good there be proud of that amen what do you think like the next biggest realm

02:10:59.560 of discovery in science like where where is science really going to start to i think we're

02:11:04.540 going to get in our genome and start messing we're going to start playing god i think uh

02:11:11.000 Oh, you wanna play a piano with 12 fingers?

02:11:16.380 Let's put in the gene that gives you 0.87

02:11:17.860 a sixth finger on each hand,

02:11:19.560 and then compose something that'll do that.

02:11:21.620 I think who we are and what we look like

02:11:25.520 might become boutique-y, okay?

02:11:29.720 And that's, I hope that doesn't happen,

02:11:32.700 because so much of what makes life interesting

02:11:36.460 is working with what you've got,

02:11:38.880 how inventive you need to be to work with how you are

02:11:43.200 and what.

02:11:44.200 Right, it gives us a purpose.

02:11:45.860 It gives you, let me work with this.

02:11:47.700 Right.

02:11:48.540 Let me see what I can do here.

02:11:49.340 Strategy.

02:11:50.560 And this urge to be normal,

02:11:55.980 I think every interesting thing that's ever happened

02:11:58.420 in civilization was created or imagined or assembled 1.00

02:12:04.940 by people who are not normal. 1.00

02:12:06.380 If everybody were normal, nothing would happen.

02:12:10.180 Think about that.

02:12:11.020 Yeah.

02:12:12.020 So in praise of being abnormal,

02:12:18.520 there's a famous quote, I think it was George Bernard Shaw.

02:12:23.320 Reasonable people follow rules and do what they're told.

02:12:28.160 Unreasonable people break rules

02:12:31.660 and do things that they're not supposed to do.

02:12:35.160 So all advances in civilization have come about

02:12:38.780 from the work of unreasonable people.

02:12:41.260 Wow.

02:12:42.680 If you only do what you're told,

02:12:43.660 you will never make a discovery.

02:12:45.280 Amen.

02:12:46.120 I mean, that goes back to even some of the stuff,

02:12:47.640 it's like the person that's different,

02:12:49.900 the person that's going to do things

02:12:53.800 at a beat of a different drummer or whatever.

02:12:55.840 Right.

02:12:56.680 Celebrate that.

02:12:58.060 Yeah.

02:12:58.920 That might be the savior.

02:13:00.240 That might be the liaison.

02:13:01.920 It might be the patriot that gets us to the next level.

02:13:03.880 the link there, and here's just an interesting fact.

02:13:07.380 I don't know what percentage of the public is trans.

02:13:14.580 Some numbers put it in low single digits.

02:13:17.320 And then if you're like a normalist, you will say,

02:13:20.320 well, fix that, they're not normal, they're abnormal.

02:13:23.700 Okay?

02:13:25.780 Do you realize that 98% of all atoms in the universe

02:13:33.880 are hydrogen and helium, 98%.

02:13:39.040 Everything that is what we care about and love

02:13:42.760 is enabled by what's in that 2%.

02:13:48.280 The iron, the oxygen, the silicon, the nitrogen,

02:13:50.940 the phosphorus, the everything else

02:13:55.160 is what makes this universe what it is.

02:13:57.800 And it's in that 2%.

02:13:58.940 The variety.

02:14:00.260 There it is.

02:14:01.100 The cadmium.

02:14:02.360 That's in there too.

02:14:03.460 Is it?

02:14:03.940 Yes.

02:14:04.620 Yeah, dude.

02:14:05.600 Yeah, man.

02:14:06.300 You got to have variety.

02:14:07.380 You got to have difference.

02:14:08.600 And also-

02:14:09.520 It's the forces we put on ourselves

02:14:11.980 to try to make people conform to what is normal or average.

02:14:17.660 So that disturbs me.

02:14:18.760 I want people to celebrate being different,

02:14:21.680 not be sad that they're not the same.

02:14:25.020 Yeah.

02:14:25.400 Amen to that, dude.

02:14:26.220 Yeah.

02:14:27.500 And a lot of it is like stuff like media,

02:14:31.380 online stuff that just it's created to create the fight oh yeah because in the end i think people

02:14:36.780 you walk up to anybody somebody most people would take care of each other i'd like to think so i

02:14:42.400 think but generally they would do so if you're the only two in the boat and all you have is each

02:14:47.320 other but if you're with a clan of a hundred people and there's three people who are different

02:14:53.900 out there it's way too easy to reject them it almost comes naturally within us to protect

02:15:03.120 what's in group and reject what's out out of group well hopefully we don't get into a place

02:15:08.320 where people are like you know things are getting that rough out there you know i hope not i mean

02:15:13.860 it's it definitely has happened that way in some parts of the world oh for sure definitely i'm not

02:15:18.000 saying that it hasn't for sure yeah but i mean i hope it doesn't get to like we're at the like

02:15:21.300 where things get so dystopian out there and stuff.

02:15:24.340 I don't think that's going to happen.

02:15:25.700 In the end, do you think that existence wins,

02:15:27.860 like that good wins?

02:15:30.120 So in that vein, there's a paragraph I want to read

02:15:33.360 from Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot.

02:15:35.540 Okay.

02:15:36.120 Okay?

02:15:36.720 And it encapsulates so much of what my people feel

02:15:40.020 as astrophysicists.

02:15:41.380 Because we see Earth not just as living humans

02:15:45.160 on the surface.

02:15:46.080 We think of Earth from space and from deep space.

02:15:49.660 Okay.

02:15:50.020 And what does it look like?

02:15:50.780 What does it feel like?

02:15:51.620 What are you thinking?

02:15:52.440 And there's Earth, just this orb adrift.

02:15:58.900 What are you thinking?

02:16:02.840 Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena.

02:16:09.320 Think of the rivers of blood spilled

02:16:11.780 by all those generals and emperors

02:16:14.080 so that in glory and in triumph,

02:16:16.360 they could become the momentary masters

02:16:18.700 of a fraction of a dot.

02:16:21.260 Think of the endless cruelties visited

02:16:23.700 by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot

02:16:26.260 on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants

02:16:29.000 of some other corner of the dot.

02:16:31.920 How frequent their misunderstandings, 0.97

02:16:34.340 how eager they are to kill one another.

02:16:38.860 How fervent their hatreds, our posturings,

02:16:42.100 our imagined self-importance, the delusion

02:16:44.940 that we have some privileged position in the universe

02:16:47.560 are challenged by this point of pale light.

02:16:53.240 So I think about that all the time.

02:16:57.580 You will not find legions of astrophysicists

02:17:00.760 leading soldiers into battle.

02:17:02.620 Yeah.

02:17:04.260 That is not ever gonna happen.

02:17:06.840 You would think we could do better,

02:17:08.120 and I think most of us want to.

02:17:10.240 Yeah, yeah.

02:17:12.080 You know?

02:17:13.560 Well, you know what, it has to be,

02:17:17.340 What I found, the most potent way to get someone

02:17:20.440 to accept someone else is to have your kids

02:17:24.140 want to marry one of them.

02:17:26.400 I mean, think about it.

02:17:27.320 Historically, marriages were like packs between countries

02:17:31.040 to bring peace among them.

02:17:33.300 They marry the royalty off, and now you got to be friends.

02:17:37.260 So-

02:17:37.480 That's the truth.

02:17:38.320 Maybe there's deep truth in that.

02:17:40.240 Oh, I've always said beige power, man.

02:17:42.320 I think it all ends really beige, man.

02:17:47.340 man. I've always said beige power, dude. Neil deGrasse Tyson, thank you so much, brother.

02:17:56.120 Thanks for having me back. I mean, I enjoyed our last time together, but I can't, I'm not

02:18:00.120 leaving until we both look at this babyfied version of us when you asked me a question

02:18:06.240 and I answered it. Let's take a look at this. That sounds fair. Let's check it out right here.

02:18:10.080 This is like, I think, what AI was intended for.

02:18:14.180 Oh, yeah.

02:18:15.820 Is outer space gay or straight? 0.97

02:18:18.460 Okay, so I'm going to give you an answer. 0.92

02:18:20.420 Are you ready?

02:18:21.160 Yeah. 0.76

02:18:21.480 Is outer space gay or straight?

02:18:23.340 Practically everything we see and measure in space, not only objects, but temperature, size, density, is on a spectrum.

02:18:34.620 So for you to say, is the universe gay or straight?

02:18:38.100 I'm going to tell you, whatever the universe is, it's on a spectrum.

02:18:41.600 So it's bi.

02:18:45.500 That was terrible. 0.99

02:18:49.160 Yeah, I never even seen that, dude.

02:18:51.040 You haven't seen it?

02:18:51.680 You don't see your own stuff?

02:18:52.860 Uh-uh.

02:18:53.300 Sometimes I do.

02:18:54.080 Sometimes I don't.

02:18:54.540 My mother sends me stuff sometimes.

02:18:56.540 Yeah, yeah, okay.

02:18:57.340 It was fun, dude.

02:18:58.020 Our last conversation was fun, man.

02:18:59.680 I've listened to it a couple times over the years, and just grateful to have you back,

02:19:03.400 and just grateful that you keep just contributing

02:19:05.180 to the world, sharing and opening your heart up

02:19:07.920 and sharing things that are important.

02:19:09.320 Whoever will listen, I'm there for you.

02:19:11.900 You've done a great job over the years, man.

02:19:13.860 So thank you so much for your contribution.

02:19:15.000 I keep laughing and I meant that in space.

02:19:17.120 Yeah.

02:19:17.620 You knock on the door, I'll let you in.

02:19:21.400 Hey, and if you do that, then I won't be lost in space.

02:19:25.540 How about that?

02:19:26.460 You'll have a guide.

02:19:27.420 Yeah, I will.

02:19:28.420 Lost in Space, 5,000 Facts for Navigating the Universe.

02:19:32.200 That's your new book.

02:19:33.400 it's a beauty it's a thanks for the shout out yep you bet man and uh thank you so much neil i

02:19:37.820 appreciate it all right now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves

02:19:44.800 i must be cornerstone oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i

02:19:55.780 can feel it in my bones but it's gonna tell you

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - September 16, 2026

#683 - Neil deGrasse Tyson

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