E366 Ryan Williams
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1 hour and 38 minutes
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Summary
Ryan Williams is a world-class BMX athlete and member of the Nitro Circus. He s won countless gold medals and is one of the most humble people I know. In this episode, Ryan talks about what it s like to be a professional BMX rider in Australia.
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And he is a world-class gold medalist in scooter games and in BMX bicycling.
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This man has done things that you and I could never fathom doing.
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Even our dreams, we can't do the things that this man does in actuality.
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And we are so happy to have him here today, Mr. Ryan Williams.
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Is a, you know, a real astronaut, cyclist, almost
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What's kind of the appropriate term for somebody like you?
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Okay, so, and, um, action sports, like, so when you, when people say action sports,
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Um, anything that's kind of like, I guess, I guess slightly dangerous and considered a sport.
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And I was like, uh, I don't know, I've only been to, um, the comedy store, like, before that.
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And then, um, so this was, like, the second time going somewhere in Hollywood.
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Um, so, yeah, you guys, uh, yeah, that was such a surprise, dude.
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So, do you have, do you go to a place, uh, so you live in Australia, right?
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And do you, is there a comedy place you go to there?
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No, I've actually never seen a comedy show in Australia.
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But, um, so, yeah, I'm living here in Huntington Beach.
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You know, I like a lot of, I like how it all started with the inmates and everything,
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putting all, like, the seedy people over there.
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And so, I think I love that about it, you know?
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Just seeing the children and grandchildren of seedy people.
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And just seeing, like, the, you know, all the unique animals.
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It feels almost like a, it feels almost like a, um, like a secret location, kind of, you
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Uh, or it seems like a, um, like a practice facility for humanity.
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It feels like a training ground for, like, humans and Mother Nature.
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It's, uh, it must be, like, in the blood, because I feel like a lot of us have, like,
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And that's why, why you see us in action sports, like, just sending it.
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Australians have a different thing inside of them.
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And I don't know if it's a, do they know if it's a scientific thing, you think?
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I wonder if there's, like, that rebellious thing because, because Australia started because
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So, there was, like, convicts, and they, um, shipped them over because there was, like,
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they're, like, oh, we want to free up some space here.
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We need a little more bandwidth over here at the prison.
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So, we're going to send, we're going to send a couple, uh, a couple of bad boys over there.
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Um, so, how do you, so, so your world is mostly, like, take me through how you kind of
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got started, man, because I know you and I just met on IG.
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I was in, like, I love all your, like, tricks, and it seems so extreme, and, like, I get
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So, when I see somebody like you, I'm like, damn, this guy, you know, he's really able
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to level up, like, in this, um, you know, this guy seems like a real, like a, you know,
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uh, just like a real energy drink of a kind of guy, you know?
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I guess it started, like, where the action sports started was I watched the X Games, and,
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you know, like, there was a movie called The Ultimate X, and it had, like, guys like Travis
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Pastrana, Tony Hawk, and, like, I seen that, and I think all I had at the time were, like,
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rollerblades, because my mom took me to the roller drone, you know?
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So, I was like, I want to go to the skate park now.
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So, I just, like, went to the skate park on my rollerblades and fell on my butt, like,
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500 times, and then pretty much from then on, I was just, like, the skate park rat.
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And so, at skate parks over there, are people doing drugs and stuff, or is it mostly just
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Um, you could probably find drugs at the skate park, but I, like, there's certain skate parks,
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like, the skate park I mainly go to, it's got a fence around it, so you don't just go chill
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You kind of, like, pay to go in, and you're not going to pay twice to do drugs.
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Yeah, if you do your drugs and then you go in there, it'd be, yeah.
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Yeah, you want to save that money, I think, and just do your drugs outside, probably.
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Um, so, when you started, like, did you find that you were good at it in the beginning?
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Because sometimes I wonder how much of a, um, to be, like, an extreme sports person.
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How much, like, how much, like, um, is it in you, and then how much is it that you can
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Because I've always felt like something like that is not in me, dude.
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Like, you know, I'll even, like, even, you know, sometimes people, like, when the car
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stops real fast, people will put their hand over the person.
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I will make people put their hand over me, even if we're just kind of cruising along.
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Yeah, I guess, um, I would say, I guess it is built in a little bit.
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Like, you kind of have to be a little bit wild, because you've got to get over the hill,
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There's, like, no way not to, really, if you want to push to that upper level.
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But I guess it is something you can definitely learn.
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Like, obviously, I started just for fun, and I was just like, all my homies were, like,
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down the skate park, and then that's why I jumped on a scooter, because I was, like,
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the only rollerblade kid, just all, like, the lonely rollerblader, basically, down the
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And I was like, man, I want to ride with, I want to learn with everybody else.
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So I ended up, like, I had to borrow, like, their scooter and their shoes, because, obviously,
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No, well, you can if you try hard enough, but, yeah, pretty much just, it was all fun
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at the start, and then you, like, build up and just, I don't know, you slowly progress,
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but I guess at the start, you obviously have to be able to get hurt and not, like, cry about
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You have to, like, pick yourself up and keep going.
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And if you see somebody, like, were you helmeted in the beginning?
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And is it well received by others if you wear a helmet, or is it kind of...
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Like, you're not going to go out there and do a triple backward with no helmet on, because
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if you crash, then you're not going to be doing any more flips after that.
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You might, you know, like, you can get seriously hurt.
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But definitely, like, the skateboarding realm is, like, yeah, if you're not wearing a...
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If you're wearing a helmet, like, only in a stair set, they're like, what are you doing?
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But it's kind of well received in scooter and BMX to wear the helmet, because a lot
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of people have gotten hurt, even with a helmet on, and, like, can't ride anymore.
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So it's like, if everyone wasn't wearing a helmet, then there'd be way less BMX riders,
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And it's just like, why not have a helmet on and just protect your noggin?
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I would never want my kids, I don't think, to see me in a helmet, you know, if I'm a dad,
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I don't think I've ever seen a picture of you in a helmet, so...
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But I think, yeah, if a kid sees their dad in a helmet, I think it just does something
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You guys' helmets is different, because they're more, like, cool-looking helmets, I feel like,
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If you're, like, on a bicycle, like, in the neighborhood, and you were...
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And your dad drives up the driveway in the bike, and he has on a helmet, I feel
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I would feel so sad for my dad, and then I would feel so sad for me, I think.
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Like, if you're wearing a cyclist's helmet, the worst ones, I think...
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I don't know if you have, like, birds that swoop you here.
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Like, we have magpies in Australia, and they, like, swoop you, so you see cyclists, they'll
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have, like, a cycling helmet, and then they'll have zip ties, like, pointing up in the air.
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I used to paint fences on this man's property, and I used to do it with this big, kind of urban
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This dude, Johnny, was his name, Big Johnny, and he wore these...
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He had, like, real dark skin, and he had a big chest hair, and he would have these jewel...
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Like, a lot of gold and stuff, and silver choice chains and stuff in it, and he was a homosexual
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I didn't know that at the time, but people said he was later.
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He and I would paint these fences, and the birds would swoop down, because he had a big
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afro, so the birds would swoop down to get into his hair.
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So, at one point, my only responsibility was to have this, like, badminton racket, and
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I want to say it was nightingales, but it might have been something else.
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So, I'm just sitting there all day, just fucking, just love, love with Mother Nature, you know?
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But anyway, yeah, so, because, yeah, I think sometimes if I had that helmet, it would make
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me, if I saw my dad on a regular bicycle, but in your sport, you guys need the helmet.
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Yeah, yeah, I'd suggest wearing a helmet, just because you could, like, not even be trying
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anything crazy, and just, like, fall over and just hit your head, and there's, like, there's
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a lot of guys that, like, have had brain injuries, and then they can't ride, and it's,
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like, if they, and there's big people that get hurt not wearing a helmet and can't ride,
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so it's, like, may as well just wear one, but I get where you're coming from, but I'll
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So, you get going, you get, now, was it frowned upon that you're in there with the rollerblades?
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Yeah, well, yeah, it was, because I rolled away for, like, four years, but it was kind
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Like, I was just, I grew up with a single mom, and she was, like, that's all we could
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We just had the rollerblades, and then it's, like, I was, like, sweet, and then once I
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started, I was, like, man, this is fun, like, this is so fun, I'm just going to rollerblade
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because it's so fun, it's the only thing I had tried.
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I can't imagine rollerblading for four years, man.
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And so, then you get up to the scooter, so is that where you start to, like, make your,
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like, where do you start to kind of make your climb into, like, this fucking, like, astrophysicist
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Like, you're, like, this, like, you're, like, a bullet, kind of, like, where do you start
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I would say, like, I jump on a scooter, I think I rode for, like, maybe three or four years,
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and then kind of got sponsored, and then once I got sponsored, we did, like, a trip to the
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USA, and that was, like, when I was, like, what?
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Like, I'm riding a scooter, and, like, they're flying me over to the USA to just ride skate
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So, where were you riding when you were riding before you were still at these skate parks
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All, just the skate parks, and then for about, so, yeah, for about five, five or six years,
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it was just the skate park stuff, and then that's, like, after that, Nitro Circus see
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And they were, like, oh, let's give this guy a go on this 40-foot jump, and then see
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I was 17 years old, just, like, ready to send it.
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So, you didn't have any, so, like, yeah, was there a lot of fear or anything?
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Or take me through some of that process, because you're, let's see if we can pull up one of
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your, just pull up one of, I just want you to kind of take me through what some of this
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is, when you, like, because now you do some pretty, you're on, like, some pretty intense
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You can just type triple front flip in the top.
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I'm probably just skipping a little bit, but this one was crazy because it was, like,
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they built this jump just for me to do this trick.
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It's just the confidence is built, built up, you know?
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I've gained confidence in my abilities, in myself.
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Yeah, I don't even think we need the audio of it if we can.
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So, is this when you, once you get on, this, is this once you get over here to the U.S.?
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This is, like, after I've been on Nitro Circus, and then I'm, like, this is when I'm kind of
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Dude, you look like a full-on dame from fucking Adelaide, bro.
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But, yeah, they built this ramp just for this trick, and I was so scared because no one
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And it's still, like, one of the hardest tricks I've ever done, even though this is, like,
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Dude, now, did you, did these guys think you could do it?
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Yeah, that's the thing about action sports, is that, like, we know that if the other guy
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I was actually racing him to do the first one, and he got to do the first attempt.
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So, when you're going up this, like, what speed are you going whenever you hit this,
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I think we had a speedometer, and it was, like, 35 miles per hour.
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I just, like, what I do is kind of, like, you can close your, you know, you can close
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your eyes, and you can write your name, you know?
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I've, I've rode a BMX so long that I can, like, picture it in my head before I even do
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So, it's like, I just close my eyes, and I, like, have, like, a simulator in my brain
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that I've created over, like, 15 years of riding action sports, and I can just play that
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trick out, boom, boom, in my head 30 times before I drop in, and then I drop in, and it's
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I'm doing it, and then I'm, as I'm doing it, I'm, like, calculating, okay, is this what
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Is this what I imagined was going to be happening?
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And if I'm looking, and I'm seeing something else, I'm like, all right, how am I, how do
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So, at a certain point, it's just, you realize it's kind of survival, like, if it's, if something
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Okay, so on that trick right there that you're doing, what is that trick called?
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So if you, when you're going up, you're going up that ramp, how do you then get your bike to flip frontward?
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Because it would seem like you're going to go backwards.
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And it's kind of similar to that, but it's like obviously wheels, different inertia.
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But it's like, so what I do, the way I do it is I would ride up, right?
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And then I initiate the front flip by throwing my upper body over the front of the bike, right?
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Yeah, I have to do it a little bit early on that triple front flip because obviously it's three flips, not one.
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Like one flip, you can be like, just chill, and it comes around.
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Three flips is like, okay, I just have to put everything into it.
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And I actually like nose manual, which is like where you go on the front wheel.
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So I'll be going on one wheel up the ramp before I'm even off the top.
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Wow, so when you leave the ramp, you're only on that front wheel?
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Can you feel that front wheel catch the edge of that ramp at all or no?
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The funny thing is I had bruises on my legs because the bike would like press against my legs so hard because I would throw so hard that the handlebars would hit me in the legs.
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And that's how I knew I was spinning fast because I was like, oh yeah, I felt that.
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And then you feel the flick and you just kind of like hold on for the ride.
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And so at that point, do you just hope that you land at the exact right kind of timing?
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Or is the ramp built so that you could kind of, as long as you're coming, you can come in at a lot of different angles and land?
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Yeah, so it's kind of, you like, obviously the ramp is like 50% of the trick, you know, because it's like you got to have the same, the right trajectory.
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If you're coming into a flat surface, you're just going to explode.
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So you need to like, it's almost like a plane, you know, it comes into land just smooth like that.
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So it's like when we land, we want to be landing in the trajectory of the landing.
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So that's like smoother, but it's still a hard landing.
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So all the places where you land, usually it has to be at an angle so that, because you couldn't just do it flat.
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And once you pass that level, your bones can't do it.
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That's a fucking homemade Halloween, baby, you know.
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So you start to get, are you in school at this point?
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So whenever you kind of get going, you get on the scooter, right?
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I mean, scooter, like you see somebody on a scooter, like.
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Yeah, I think, and that's kind of a cool thing when I'm doing these nice stickers tours, because like, especially here in America, they're like, are you going to take that scooter down that ramp?
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And I'm like, bro, I'm going to do way more than just take it down the ramp.
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But yeah, when I first started, obviously scootering was like, it was just, it was just fun, man.
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And we did get, it was like, skateboarders would be like, why are you riding a scooter?
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You're not going to get anywhere riding a scooter, dude.
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I'm just trying to get to the skate park and do some stunts.
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But yeah, I got heaps of grief for that, like bullied, obviously.
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And then it's kind of like, that's why I got to catch this wave of like new age scooter dudes.
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So I was like in the forefront and I could create tricks because like the tricks that
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I was doing 10 years ago, a hundred, like 10,000 kids can do it now.
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Whereas it was like a world's first 10 years ago.
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It was like being at the front of like, it was like buying Bitcoin, you know, it was like,
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Like people were like, what are you going to buy Bitcoin?
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And then like the dudes that did were like, yeah, now.
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And it's like, I got on that first wave of scooters and then now I'm here like, yeah.
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Did you, um, and did you just feel like, did you try skateboarding as well?
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Did you try other things in the beginning and you just felt most capable with the scooter
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I think that the biggest thing was just my mates did it, you know, and I just wanted to hang
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And like, if all my mates skateboarded, I probably would have been a skateboarder.
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Cause I did have a skateboard and I would skateboard when my mates skateboarded, I would ride a
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I would just bring like everything I could to the skate park just in case, like more people
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I'd be like, okay, it's time for the skateboard today.
00:27:05.500
And that's kind of like why I picked up scootering so much just because dude, my mates are doing
00:27:10.180
And it was just the coolest vibe to go down the skate park, have your mates, learn new tricks.
00:27:16.680
So that's why I stick with the scooter, even though I got a lot of grief for it at the
00:27:21.620
And, um, and at school, so it was just, were you an only child?
00:27:27.760
And so, and you're, did, it was your mom like supportive of you doing this kind of
00:27:32.200
stuff or did she think it was dangerous or was she kind of a rebel?
00:27:36.400
So I did, I raced BMX like on the dirt track, like just racing, like when I was like younger
00:27:41.780
than when I roll bladed or at the same time, because my mom was like best in Queensland
00:27:48.160
When she was young, she was like number one in Queensland.
00:27:51.040
And then she started when I started again, when she was like 30 and then she was number
00:28:09.320
I don't know what a mega ramp is, but I believe you.
00:28:20.760
And then you're going to have to skip in a little bit though.
00:29:18.900
It's like an action sports paradise for myself.
00:29:20.880
And I've just been like building ramps and yeah, just progressing action sports.
00:29:28.360
So how, how, how, how big is this Our Willy Land?
00:29:42.560
Like I'll be walking up to go to a tree, mango would just fall off and I'll just pick
00:29:49.940
Oh, come for the fricking dangerous animals, stay for the free fruit, man.
00:29:53.600
Um, so you've got this park and now how much does this park kind of cost to that, that
00:30:02.060
So, um, I mean the land's like hot over half a million for the land, but that's like, you
00:30:09.600
So it's like, that's general, but the ramp is like $5,000.
00:30:14.160
And then for that big airbag thing, like it's a bag jump and that thing's like cost me like
00:30:22.000
But then I've got another one that's like a landing.
00:30:23.900
So like you switch, you go from that, that is what I practice my tricks on.
00:30:27.940
And like, you can land on like your head and be kind of all right.
00:30:30.920
And then, um, once you get your trick dialed, you switch it to the landing and then you can
00:30:34.880
like fully land the trick, you know, like claim the, the new trick, you know?
00:30:39.260
So you would then move that out of that space and put the ramp in that, you know, you can
00:30:47.280
It is like, it's, I've had it for like a year and a half now and it's just insane because
00:30:51.500
the best thing is I have my mates from the skate park.
00:30:54.100
Obviously I got great opportunity with Nitro Circus, you know, I got to ride these ramps
00:30:57.740
and go to these places and like progress myself, but my mates obviously stuck at home.
00:31:04.020
So now it's so funny to see the mates that I grew up with like 10 years ago that were
00:31:09.760
Now they're riding like this mega ramp at mine and doing tricks that like no one else
00:31:14.740
So they're progressing and becoming the best rider they can be because I've got it.
00:31:20.800
Cause I get like young scooter kids, like 10 year old kids coming in and doing double
00:31:27.440
I was like, I don't even know what I was doing when I was 10.
00:31:33.460
It's like, it's, I'm sure it's interesting to be a part of the, um, kind of the movement
00:31:39.460
So you get to this Nitro Circus, let's go back in time a little.
00:31:42.460
So you get onto this thing where you're going, now you're going to go tour in America.
00:31:47.300
So you got signed the video, you had some videos that got out and you got signed by
00:31:52.940
So I did, uh, I got signed by Nitro Circus and the first one was actually in Australia
00:31:57.160
and it was just like some company, Scooter Heart, they had paid to like do advertising
00:32:02.160
And then Nitro Circus was like, Oh, who, who are some scooter kids like up and coming
00:32:09.500
And I just, on my first show, I did like a world's first double front flip on scooter.
00:32:14.280
And then from then on, it was like, I was just on and it was just, it was mind blowing.
00:32:20.460
And did you, so at this point, do you have like a girlfriend already at this point?
00:32:33.940
So it was like a school, a school girlfriend, you know?
00:32:37.680
And were you like, uh, were you, were you becoming like a lot of pretty popular in your
00:32:45.100
And like at school, people knew I was like flying.
00:32:47.200
I literally was doing school Monday to Friday and then flying out and doing a Nitro Circus
00:32:55.340
So it was like a trip, but yeah, I was kind of a nerd in school too.
00:32:58.680
So I finished school and got into university, but I didn't choose to do that.
00:33:02.620
Now in Australia, do you have to go to university or you don't have to?
00:33:05.340
Nah, you can like drop out, you can drop out early.
00:33:08.000
I could have already been out of school when I was doing Nitro Circus and just being like
00:33:14.800
It's pretty, it's like pretty wild west over there.
00:33:20.740
So then you get on this tour and you guys start to come to America.
00:33:29.520
Um, she was like, obviously she was worried at the start, you know?
00:33:41.680
There's always, until you make it into, and it's really professional.
00:33:45.860
You're, whatever any child I think is doing for their parents, the parents always like,
00:33:52.620
I want you to do well, but you're fucking around here.
00:33:57.960
And then she like, she obviously gained confidence in myself.
00:34:00.420
And, uh, I was pretty lucky with injury and just like being calculated and not just like
00:34:08.580
Like we are in a way, but we're all, I'm like calculating the risk.
00:34:21.260
Um, so I was, uh, I got a notch circus and then that's kind of when things started to
00:34:27.380
And that's like when I started to really get a name and then that just made me more stoked
00:34:32.720
to be riding and like do better because I was like, man, me having fun doing these
00:34:37.080
tricks that I love doing is like progressing me through life.
00:34:40.960
Like, yeah, it is crazy when like your dream or something that you're really putting energy
00:34:45.400
into that, the world kind of meets that, like, like starts to like kind of push that
00:34:54.340
Like, why do I get to have this, like, um, this, why does, why do I get to be met this
00:35:04.480
I think honestly, a huge thing for me too, was the fact that you did get, I did get grief
00:35:11.080
You know, I got bullied for riding a scooter by like other people.
00:35:19.620
I just took it right on the chin and was like, I'm going to be so good that you can't not
00:35:30.440
It was like, all right, so you think that this is so bad that you can't be cool.
00:35:34.960
Well, I'm going to be so good that you start to think it's cool.
00:35:42.620
You have that, that desire to be fucking undeniable, that desire to like prove people
00:35:47.840
wrong, even if it's just a general, not even an exact person, but a general people.
00:36:03.120
I don't know if you've ever heard of Australia Zoo.
00:36:06.120
I can't remember you, the one where you get to hold the, um, the koala.
00:36:14.520
So she worked there and then, um, met the tiger, the tiger handler and like, yeah.
00:36:20.580
And then now she's married to the tiger handler.
00:36:37.680
Well, cause so what happened was I was growing, when I was growing up, obviously it was hard
00:36:48.400
And it was just like, I thought it was, it was actually kind of cool because I didn't
00:36:55.880
I get to go down there and like ride different skate parks.
00:37:02.180
My dad, and I see my dad here and there and I, my dad actually lives at the land now.
00:37:06.980
So my dad, my dad lives at the land where, and cause he's an excavator driver.
00:37:11.100
So I like employed him basically to be the groundskeeper Willie.
00:37:14.480
And then my mom lives at my house that I live in, like, that's a trip.
00:37:19.340
So then now they're almost all back on the same area.
00:37:32.880
So you get on, are you on the tours when you start to get onto some of these Nitro Circus,
00:37:43.540
Is it like a carnival kind of like, does it have that vibe or at that time, what was the
00:37:53.420
Like when I first got on, it was, it was like, I don't know if you've ever heard of the Metal
00:37:59.600
That's, uh, that's, um, uh, yeah, Brian Deegan.
00:38:07.300
I was like, you know, just let me know a little bit more, you know, but he said a lot of nice
00:38:12.400
So they were like, back in the day, they were like pretty gnarly.
00:38:15.920
So when I got on, they were going straight from like metal, there was a few metal militia
00:38:19.680
guys on Nitro Circus, but Nitro Circus was like steered towards, it was also, it also had
00:38:24.080
that like gnarliness, but it also had like the family vibe.
00:38:30.920
It's like, we would have this with wheels on it and it jumps the ramp.
00:38:34.840
So it was like, there was that kid vibe as well, like the family vibe.
00:38:38.160
So there really is like a circus vibe to it in a way.
00:38:41.720
Kind of like a family circus, like, um, action sports vibe.
00:38:48.020
Cause the, when I was a kid, you know, what came to town sometime was the circus Barnums
00:38:56.360
You never saw it a man, but one of them had like a whip or something.
00:38:59.080
Um, but they came to town and they would have like the tent, you know, and they'd have the
00:39:05.120
guy who would swing and you know, he would do a flip and then catch the other bar and
00:39:09.500
like, then he would light him on fire or something, swing him back.
00:39:15.320
Um, so you had like, that was a, that was like a circus, you know, that was like a circus
00:39:26.400
Cause it was like, these guys are just like mischiefs.
00:39:32.900
Like the, when I first got on, it was, it was pretty crazy.
00:39:36.000
Like the after parties were pretty gnarly and I'm 17 years old.
00:39:43.040
Have you been drinking with your mates and stuff back then?
00:39:46.300
Like in Australia, we drink pretty young, which is kind of like, yeah.
00:39:52.280
When you guys die, when you guys die, you're like, I'm done it.
00:40:00.040
But, um, so yeah, it was super, it was pretty wild.
00:40:02.780
So you, can you drink and stuff at these parties afterwards?
00:40:07.560
Like, and cause it was nitro circus, like I would be able to drink and go out and it was cool.
00:40:18.320
It was actually kind of funny when I first got on nitro circus, they were like, we want him out of our skate parks.
00:40:25.240
Hopefully he crashes and like hurts himself kind of deal.
00:40:37.600
And are you guys, you guys, you're on, you're going on tour buses.
00:40:41.580
Um, we would fly, but we also would do a tour buses sometime.
00:40:46.780
So that was a little bit later, maybe two or three years into doing the touring.
00:40:52.000
So you guys pull into like a venue and it's like, um, is it outdoors?
00:40:57.420
Like what, or what kind of venues are we talking?
00:41:00.320
So we've did, we did like, um, a Staples Center.
00:41:03.280
We've done Madison Square Gardens and that's, yeah, that is wild.
00:41:06.580
That's when we do like a bus tour and it's a trip because you do this massive show, like
00:41:11.980
in front of 10,000 plus people, you party, go to sleep on the bus, wake up in a different
00:41:25.180
So we're getting our first one starting this week.
00:41:31.720
So I'm excited to have like a little bit of a change of pace.
00:41:34.940
But yeah, that thing where you like leave late at night and you just wake up and you're
00:41:40.160
It's like a trip because wake up in a different country and it's like totally different.
00:41:44.980
It's like you had like a weird dream and now you've time traveled.
00:41:49.600
So you're out doing this thing or you graduated or no?
00:41:52.360
So I just passed schooling, like primary, uh, high schooling.
00:41:55.780
And then, uh, and is it just like Chris Lilley, like in that show, like in, uh,
00:42:15.700
It's kind of, it kind of is like, it's not even a bad representation.
00:42:22.600
That was one of the best things that I did a tour in Australia.
00:42:24.860
I got to meet Chris Lilley and that was pretty cool.
00:42:32.000
That's like, that's like one of the best shows.
00:42:35.560
It's like a lot of people here still don't know you.
00:42:41.980
Bro, when somebody hasn't seen it, I get so jealous because their life's going to be
00:42:48.640
Bro, if your relationship's bad, sit down and watch that together.
00:43:01.900
You're like going to different cities and stuff and that's in the U.S., right?
00:43:11.720
But the biggest, like the actual tours and the full-on experiencing the U.S.A., yeah,
00:43:16.460
it was on Nitro Circus tours on a bus and flying a lot.
00:43:20.520
Has anybody ever paid you to do like a private party or something like that?
00:43:24.620
Um, I've done like cool camps for kids and like done like, um, in Canada, I went to this
00:43:29.780
all-in skate park and like just spent a week with kids and taught them.
00:43:34.320
Uh, I was filming YouTube videos and these kids were just so stoked that I would like get
00:43:39.380
so much content because these kids would just send themselves and like, I got some, I got
00:43:43.360
some wild clips of these kids just sending it, you know?
00:43:47.960
Is this, are there times where you, do you ever meet a kid and you're like, oh, that kid's
00:43:55.420
Yeah, there's a few, there's a few like, I'm like, oh, I think I'm wild, but these, these
00:43:59.840
You got to get a mark and put a little star on their shoulder or something, you know what
00:44:08.320
So once you really get, so once you like, at this point your career is going like, are
00:44:16.160
So obviously when I first got on Nitro, it was like, I was 17 years old.
00:44:27.060
But then I think about three years in, that's when I was like making a living, you know,
00:44:31.820
or not even that actually probably, probably a year after starting with Nitro, then I was
00:44:38.980
And then eventually it, like I bought my first house when I was 21 and then, yeah.
00:44:46.940
Like crazy to ride a scooter and then like to make such a good living.
00:44:53.540
One thing I noticed about you, even in watching some of your own, uh, podcast clips and stuff
00:44:58.000
is just like your enthusiasm and like, you're kind of like just your excitement that this
00:45:06.140
Like sometimes I embrace that stuff like kind of cautiously, like I'm almost not ashamed
00:45:12.160
of my life, but sometimes I get embarrassed that I make money or embarrassed that I'm,
00:45:16.220
you know, have like, you know, you seem to just kind of wear it just kind of more like
00:45:22.080
Like, I can't believe I get to do this and this is it.
00:45:24.820
Well, I always just want to be out of like, I want to show, like, I want to, I want people
00:45:28.640
to see that like you can be a 12 year old scooter kid down the skate park.
00:45:33.460
Like literally you can be that kid and then make a living out of it when no one really
00:45:47.700
I'm like, dude, I'm here like with you on your podcast and I've been, I've watched you
00:45:54.140
And the reason I'm here is just because I'm so stoked to be riding a scooter.
00:45:58.180
And I, I literally am here because I didn't listen to that person that told me that
00:46:04.900
You know, if I listened to that person go, mate, you're not going to do anything
00:46:08.840
riding a scooter or the thousands of people that told me that actually, if I listened
00:46:12.240
to even one of those people, I wouldn't be sitting here today.
00:46:17.240
So it's like, I just want to inspire people to just keep pushing on and believing in whatever
00:46:26.660
Because yeah, it's like, you make me more stoked to be here today.
00:46:31.560
And I was like excited, you know, because I'm a fan and I wanted to learn, I want to
00:46:35.440
learn about, you know, what you do and what goes into it and stuff.
00:46:38.740
But then when I see you, it's like, you're so excited.
00:46:41.120
I'm like, fuck, now I have to be more excited because I have to meet you at a certain level
00:46:50.880
Do you think you get that from one of your folks actually?
00:46:55.180
The people around me, like Travis Pastrana, it was a huge inspiration to me.
00:46:59.980
And it wasn't just because of the things that he's done.
00:47:02.340
Like he's done amazing things, incredible things.
00:47:05.080
But, and he's done things that other people could maybe do now.
00:47:09.320
But the thing is that inspires me about Travis Pastrana is the fact that he can bring the
00:47:15.840
Like when he, the funniest thing, we're on tour right now with Nitro Circus and we, we're
00:47:22.540
And then he turned up for one show and that show was like the best show we did because of
00:47:27.700
the energy that he brings and just the level, he just lifts you to a new level, like just
00:47:37.340
It's like, can I be that guy that when the scooter kids, like when the scooter kids around
00:47:43.300
me, BMX kids around me, they just get that little extra like boost, you know?
00:47:51.580
That is the cool, I think that is like the coolest thing about Travis Pastrana.
00:47:55.020
And that's like what inspires me to just be stoked.
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What gifts does, what does Pastrana have that makes him, that gives him that ability, you
00:50:41.700
It's, the thing is, it's how great he is, right?
00:50:50.460
He is like up there, you know, like he's a, everyone kind of knows him.
00:50:53.700
And it's like, it's like, he's like a Tony Hawk as well.
00:50:57.300
And you know, you halt, you like think, okay, he's that level.
00:50:59.660
Like he probably doesn't have that much time, but he does for everybody.
00:51:04.500
And that was the trippiest thing for me when I got on Nitro Sickers was the first show
00:51:08.640
I'm on this scooter kid and I do this world first.
00:51:11.560
And I remember after I did it, I was like so stoked.
00:51:14.580
But the biggest thing I remember from that day is riding back to the start rant and Travis
00:51:24.340
And I was like, I was like, wow, like this is insane that this guy that I hold up like
00:51:30.500
this, like I've held up, inspired me to even start for him to just give me that.
00:51:35.980
It was like, it was like a year's worth of excitement in one second.
00:51:43.600
When you have like somebody that you really idolize or you really put on a pedestal and
00:51:50.360
they have a little bit of time for you or they have like an encouragement that really
00:51:55.140
helps, you know, man, the power of that is almost unprecedented really.
00:51:59.040
I think I think that, and I always keep that in mind because we obviously do these Nitro
00:52:02.800
Sega shows and it's like there's thousands of people there and like kids will want to
00:52:07.120
come get a photo, take a picture, get an autograph.
00:52:09.820
It's like, and that's why I always remember, I always remember like five seconds of Travis
00:52:15.720
for Strana's time was like a year's worth of just excitement for me.
00:52:19.840
So it's like, if I can give a kid five seconds of my time and that it means that much to
00:52:24.440
him, I'm going to give that kid that five seconds every single time, you know, it keeps
00:52:29.960
And so y'all show, so, so you said you hit a first trick and that was on one of the
00:52:36.040
So it was just a, it was a double front flip on scooter and like no one had ever tried
00:52:45.880
And did you start to, when you got on the tour, um, what prepping for that trick, you'd
00:52:54.740
So when I first got on the show, I tried it in practice and crashed it twice.
00:52:58.460
So that's what made the moment so special is that like, it was my first show.
00:53:01.380
I'm obviously like, it's so excited, like, and so nervous, but to ace that trick, it was
00:53:09.260
Like it was like the trajectory of my life just went.
00:53:17.060
You must feel like there's like a higher power or something that has a hand in that
00:53:20.780
when you, cause it just the science and everything to like flip off of something and just have
00:53:26.540
it be perfect in a moment where it's like in a real show.
00:53:30.220
Well, that's, I think that that's where I've done really well.
00:53:34.400
Like I never think that I'm someone that is physically built better or like wired better
00:53:41.540
So I think I just managed to like succeed when it's most important.
00:53:46.440
It's like at X games, it's like, I need to do land this trick now and then I'll just
00:53:52.260
But I, I obviously do the preparation, but for some reason it's just sick to in moments
00:54:02.080
And I think that's the main reason why I got to where I am today.
00:54:09.460
It almost feels like you're favored in some sense.
00:54:13.620
And I just thank whatever the driving force is.
00:54:18.140
And I try to give back like my positivity to the people around me because maybe that'll
00:54:24.100
You know, maybe that'll do, you know, that one moment might change their life and they
00:54:27.920
might do something better and be better in the end, you know?
00:54:33.540
Even sitting with you makes me feel a little bit better than when I wasn't sitting with
00:54:39.280
I think you got to give yourself some appreciation too.
00:54:41.000
I think that you, I mean, you probably realize, like I'm sure a lot of people will like write
00:54:44.820
in and tell you how like happy you make their lives.
00:54:47.460
And I'm sure you, you make people's day so like much better just by listening to you
00:54:54.040
And I think that's, that's why you deserve to be paid for what you do and like you work
00:55:02.200
Sometimes I have a tough time thinking that I deserve things, you know, and I don't know
00:55:14.920
And sometimes I'll try to, it takes a while sometimes to find things like that when you're
00:55:17.580
really trying to figure out where they're from, you know?
00:55:19.620
But yeah, I've always struggled feeling like I deserve stuff, you know?
00:55:23.940
I hope to be able to figure it out and I'm sure that I will.
00:55:28.460
What, uh, so you get in, so when do you, when do you get into like, like at some point
00:55:33.980
you went, you won a couple of competitions, right?
00:55:36.180
I know I read this, but, um, and Deegan was talking, talking with me about it.
00:55:43.220
Like that was kind of like another thing that changed.
00:55:46.500
So they, um, the shows are huge and then they had a thing called Nitro World Games and it
00:55:52.120
So they changed the, the show changed into a competition.
00:55:58.100
And that was a huge one that I wanted to do, but obviously I was like a scooter rider and
00:56:05.140
So I rode BMX at the skate park here and there, but it wasn't like my profession, right?
00:56:09.740
And then at Nitro Circus, I was doing tricks on a scooter that had never been done on a
00:56:18.340
So you're doing tricks on a scooter that's never been done on a BMX bike.
00:56:23.200
So you can do the same, you can do the same tricks, obviously just a different vehicle,
00:56:26.860
but so I was doing tricks that I could do on a scooter that no one had never, never
00:56:32.040
And so did someone challenge you to do it on the BMX?
00:56:34.500
They were like, the only reason you can do this is because you're on a scooter.
00:56:43.480
And I ended up borrowing one of their bikes, like one of the other guys on tour.
00:56:57.500
Like all I have to do is bring these scooter tricks over to the BMX world because no one's
00:57:02.160
doing it for some reason because they think it's lame or something.
00:57:25.860
The first year it happened, I actually lost the scooter competition and won the BMX competition,
00:57:32.860
And then came back the next year and I won scooter and BMX.
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And then I think it was like the year after I finally got on X Games.
00:57:40.860
And then, yeah, I've won three X Games golds now.
00:57:47.340
So, yeah, people have won, like Travis has won so many.
00:57:51.360
I think he's got like some of the most, but like that's, they're up like in the 20s, you
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know, but that, I think, so I did accomplish something recently.
00:57:59.460
I won the, I was the first person to do three golds in a row on the MegaRamp.
00:58:05.060
So for some reason, for 20 years, it had never happened that a person had consecutively
00:58:10.580
won three gold medals in a row on the MegaRamp and it made me so nervous.
00:58:15.040
Because I was coming to the, I was coming into the third one, like, oh, here we go.
00:58:19.520
I think like five people before me had won it twice and then they lost the third time.
00:58:26.260
So the third time, do, is that, is there a video that you think?
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You go, uh, X Games, Ryan Williams, X Games, um, 2018, I think, or 19.
00:58:48.180
Not that one, the, uh, that one, the real cost, big air, but it's a full broadcast.
00:59:04.440
So this isn't my winning run, but you'll see, like, wait, is this it?
00:59:20.960
Oh, hang on, this is going to play all of them.
00:59:27.280
Um, so that was, this was the first time I won and this was in Australia.
00:59:31.260
So my first time I ever won X Games was in Australia.
00:59:33.680
My whole family there, I, I paid for everyone to fly down and stay there.
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Cause that was like my dream achieved, you know, a gold medal at the X Games.
00:59:52.240
Click the, dude, you have the, at that point you have the haircut of every, I feel like
00:59:55.740
kind of middle-aged woman in the town that I'm from.
01:00:05.480
You were going big, dude, but you had a total, it was like a real Karen kind of haircut,
01:00:14.920
I really want to show you this one because this is, I had, yeah, this is it.
01:00:32.260
And then I'm like, here, I'm like, oh gosh, I got to land this, got to land this, got to
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And it was, it was such a trip because everyone was doing so well.
01:00:54.860
What, do you think someone's going to run up and just bring it down?
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Oh, so you're thinking, what can I do that'll be different right now?
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They are not, like, guys are doing tricks into it.
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But Morgan Wade, he, like, did a double tail whip into it.
01:01:18.740
And I knew that I had to do something that, like, had never been done before to get the win.
01:01:23.240
Like, they weren't going to give it to me easily.
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Did you feel like you had extra pressure to try and get the win?
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Like, they were going to judge you even more harsh because you already had two in a row?
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Like, it's a little bit tougher to get the third one?
01:01:37.480
And I would have just done it anyway, like, even if I, like, in the moment.
01:01:46.900
And, yeah, and he actually was the first guy I ever seen do a backflip drop-in.
01:01:51.240
So I was like, when I'm at the top, I'm actually like, this is for you, Dave.
01:02:00.760
The moments like this is the, it just trips me out.
01:02:03.380
And then I nearly rode off the side of the ramp going, like, this is obviously one of my,
01:02:07.120
it was one of my signature tricks that I brought from the scooter world, right?
01:02:20.440
So you lean that energy forward kind of, but not all the way forward.
01:02:27.900
So it's like, if you come off at all, like, you are hurting yourself real bad.
01:02:35.640
So what, and where do they measure the ramps from?
01:02:45.740
So from the bottom of the ramp to the coping, which is the metal, like, part across.
01:02:51.740
And I think it's like, there's some two foot of vert or something.
01:02:56.260
And so when you, when you get to like the peak of the ramp, right?
01:03:11.400
Like the thing is, I could, that's the scariest part about that ramp is you're going so fast
01:03:16.560
that literally, if I went like this, if I went like that, I would go 16, I would go
01:03:26.660
So that's why in that moment, man, I am like, that is the most wide I've ever been in my
01:03:33.160
I'm like, if I don't do the right thing right now, I'm going to get really, really hurt.
01:03:39.000
So you're going up, you're heading up the ramp.
01:03:46.420
It's just, it's kind of like, it's like the writing with your eyes closed.
01:03:56.600
So it's like, I remember I just, I remembered that I'd done, I'd landed that trick before
01:04:05.500
I'm going really fast, but I just got to like chill.
01:04:11.580
So I rode up and I just got to like, I don't, I don't want to initiate.
01:04:15.220
It's not like the triple front flip, total opposite to the triple front flip.
01:04:17.400
You're not trying to just initiate a lot of energy.
01:04:19.820
I'm like, I'm like this, like literally I'll pretend I'm doing it right now.
01:04:28.560
And then do you just, and then you just hold on, baby.
01:04:31.740
You're on the roller coaster with no, you're not strapped in.
01:04:37.640
But you don't, at the start, it's kind of blind because I'm looking at the sky, you know,
01:04:41.300
I'm not looking at the ground and then I'll be looking at the ground.
01:04:43.500
That's kind of the scariest part of that trick.
01:04:45.740
Because for a second, for a second, I'm like, am I out?
01:04:49.960
Am I on top of the ramp or am I perfectly transitioned into coming in?
01:04:54.300
And I like, look, you can see, like I, so I go, and then I say I'm blind.
01:04:58.460
See, I'm like looking at, I was looking at the roof for a bit.
01:05:00.660
And then all of a sudden, as I'm coming down, I look, okay, now I'm coming in.
01:05:10.960
That's the moment when you're like, I'm going to land it.
01:05:14.960
Because I've already played it through the simulator, right?
01:05:17.320
And I'm like, this is what I'm expecting to see.
01:05:32.620
Whenever I come to Queensland, dude, I'm going to have to go to our Willie land.
01:05:52.340
She obviously fucking has done her work, you know.
01:05:55.380
But I think, what's next up from a trike, you think?
01:06:12.420
Like skateboarding or anything, like rolled around?
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A lot of skateboarders, boss, just really were just doing drugs.
01:06:19.660
You know, they own the boards, but they was mostly just for, you know, setting their drugs
01:06:24.480
But we didn't have a lot of, I'm trying to think if we had extreme sports bus.
01:06:29.820
We had these guys that used to shoot these potato guns, like, they had like a rest area
01:06:35.800
And maybe in Australia, your whole country is like a rest area, actually.
01:06:38.920
But it's like, a rest area is like a place where you stop on the side of the interstate
01:06:44.000
And people, like, get out to use the restroom and drink water, change the baby, you know.
01:06:49.680
You usually have a cigarette and then get back in the van and keep going, you know.
01:06:53.940
Some of them beat the kids or whatever, but if they've been bad.
01:06:57.880
But not, but anyway, by us, there was a, there was one of those.
01:07:04.760
And a lot of gay men would meet up at these places because it was like a, you know, it
01:07:11.420
So gay men would meet up over there and, you know, do drugs and make out and stuff.
01:07:21.520
So a lot of men over there, some of them would, not a lot, but they had a lot of
01:07:23.920
they had these two guys that would make like potato, these potato gun launchers.
01:07:27.260
And if like a lot of like, like real high men were making out or something, they would
01:07:34.300
I mean, they weren't trying to endanger them or anything.
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I think they just didn't want them doing a lot of drugs and making out in the water.
01:07:41.380
They didn't want anybody to drown because some men had drowned.
01:07:44.200
So it was almost like lifeguarding a little bit, but, but that was like the most extreme
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sport I ever saw was people with these potato guns, you know.
01:07:57.640
We used to build the ramp, you know, somebody always liked the ramp, like was a poorly built
01:08:01.980
and this part would come out and then somebody, the handlebar would turn and went into some
01:08:15.100
I would love to get out there and try something.
01:08:17.020
Like I could, I could teach you like safely to do it too.
01:08:24.160
So what is like, what is the future of this whole sport kind of look like?
01:08:28.060
Like, what's, what is a mechanism, like not the bike or the scooter?
01:08:33.360
What's something that came out that people thought was going to be like the next thing
01:08:37.500
that people were going to use for tricks that kind of didn't make it?
01:08:44.340
Like roll blades are like pretty big back when I started doing it.
01:08:48.200
It was kind of like still around and still in the X games, but then roll blades just dropped
01:08:51.540
off a fair bit, but there's still insane dudes doing the roll blades.
01:08:57.400
Like that's kind of like, you know what a rip stick is?
01:08:59.560
The one where people go like this to get speed.
01:09:10.680
I think that, I think that you might find this a bit like even worse than, uh, roll
01:09:19.040
If you want to ride a rip stick, man, ride a rip stick.
01:09:31.400
We had like a roll, a place called Roller Kingdom Bus where we'd have all our birthday parties.
01:09:35.960
And, uh, dude, this one kid, this kid Jeremy, who we were buddies with at the birthday parties,
01:09:42.100
he would go and get all the gum from like under the tables and make a huge, like, and
01:09:47.200
by the end of the birthday party, he would be chewing the biggest gum, dude.
01:09:56.300
So he just had this ultimate thing of gum, dude.
01:10:00.140
And his, nobody would even, his parents, I guess, weren't paying attention to him because
01:10:03.620
when they came to pick him, they wouldn't even ask him.
01:10:08.060
He had so much fucking gum and he's just breathing through his nose and his mom's like, you're
01:10:15.560
So fucking, that's an X game right there, dude.
01:10:19.680
So that's the kind of extreme sports that we had, I feel like.
01:10:24.380
Um, was there, was there, what about that, the motorized thing that I see with the one
01:10:32.040
Um, I've seen some people lately doing some pretty crazy jumps on that.
01:10:35.580
I think things just keep evolving and like, there's so many crazy, just sports, just people
01:10:43.360
And I kind of think that's like, I can't say anything.
01:10:48.460
Like whatever, if you can, if you find it fun, man, just, just do it.
01:10:51.480
But it's pretty wild that like you can be a professional pogo sticker.
01:10:55.740
I wonder if they could do like a pogo stick with like a wheel on it, or I wonder if they
01:11:04.560
You know, there was one, there used to be soap shoes, they're called.
01:11:07.640
And they, people literally would have grind plates on their shoes.
01:11:11.760
And they would just run and jump and grind down stairs.
01:11:14.360
That's one that's a hundred percent dropped off, but people were doing it.
01:11:33.240
I think I've seen some dudes do some pretty, like gnarly rails on it.
01:11:38.500
So that's mostly for rail slides and stuff like that?
01:11:56.900
Ah, so the shoes have just like a place in the middle.
01:12:02.560
Well, it like, I guess it had a time for like a year and then, I don't know now.
01:12:06.980
I guess because once you land, you can't like then.
01:12:18.900
And that's just kind of like just running around.
01:12:21.220
Like, it's like practicing running away from like.
01:12:25.940
Like, I'm going to trick the cops or something.
01:12:30.400
A lot of parkour people, I think, are athletic graffiti.
01:12:35.400
It's like, it's like a little, it seems like a side, like a.
01:12:41.560
Like, I'm going to paint this later, but watch first.
01:12:48.400
That could actually be pretty cool if that free running incorporated with graffiti.
01:13:02.760
So then, if they had a wall while they're up there, and like, each time they went up,
01:13:06.620
And then by the end of like, you know, after six times of going up, then they had like a
01:13:13.320
Do you see something as being like the next thing?
01:13:17.020
Like you're saying, it's like, you know, a new mode of transportation comes along.
01:13:31.120
These days, anything can just become something.
01:13:34.060
It's like, TikTok is now huge when five years ago, I didn't even know what that was.
01:13:41.620
It's just something happens, and then it just sticks.
01:13:44.560
They're just throwing shit at the wall, and then it just sticks.
01:13:47.060
And they're like, oh, everyone's like, fuck, I want to throw that shit at the wall, too.
01:13:50.980
Why do Australians, why are you guys such a practice facility for insane shit?
01:14:01.640
But I guess we've just all, we're always just being that kind of loose cannon vibe, and
01:14:08.660
Like, I'm super proud to be Australian, and when I think of an Australian, I think of
01:14:12.780
like someone that's just like outgoing, going to try something like crazy.
01:14:51.020
Is there, um, do you feel like, uh, do you feel like there's, like, a next level for you?
01:14:58.160
Do you feel like, do you ever feel like you've kind of achieved all that you can?
01:15:03.580
Or what do you, what does that kind of look like?
01:15:05.740
Sometimes, actually, that's one thing that kind of gets to me sometimes, is that, like,
01:15:10.040
You know, you, like, look around and you, you see, like, people that have, like, a job
01:15:14.820
that is caring, like, you care, that cares for someone, or they look after someone, and
01:15:19.540
Like, you're a doctor that, like, really, really helps someone.
01:15:22.220
And then sometimes I'm like, well, I'm just here, just spinning around doing circles,
01:15:25.700
and, like, people like to watch it, but, like, what am I really bringing?
01:15:29.660
And sometimes that gets to me, because I'm like, why am I risking it myself to just do these,
01:15:35.660
like, stunts when, like, what are they really achieving?
01:15:38.700
But they do, like, people are inspired by it to do anything.
01:15:43.180
They might even just be inspired to, like, go harder in their life in whatever they're
01:15:48.180
And I'm sure you see kids that remind you of yourself, probably.
01:15:53.880
And the craziest thing is, like, the tricks I'm doing, I was doing 10 years ago, everyone's
01:16:01.920
Like, whatever I'm doing now, whatever I do to push the limits here today, that's just going
01:16:06.580
to make action sports even crazier, like, in the long run, you know?
01:16:11.960
So the harder I can go, the harder it's going to, like, the crazier it's going to be in the
01:16:17.640
Is there a chance, so you see sometimes you would see, like, that man drops in from outer
01:16:21.580
space or something with the Red Bull stuff, you know, the guy, you know, Danny, whatever
01:16:25.540
his name is, he jumps off of something and lands, you know?
01:16:28.880
Is there a way that you could do, like, a drop into a ramp, but from, like, an insanely
01:16:33.960
high place, like, off of a building and then still hit the, like...
01:16:39.660
Yeah, come in at a certain place on the ramp where you could still then go do something?
01:16:47.540
I've always imagined, like, maybe doing a trick, like a World's First or something new
01:16:55.720
He jumped onto the luge, I think, or something.
01:16:57.740
Like, I think it was just the one in Vegas, though.
01:17:01.940
He, like, jumped up it and then turned around and then jumped off into a ramp.
01:17:17.920
I feel like there'd be a lot of Vietnamese kids doing this.
01:17:20.480
Is there, like, a lot of Asian kids that do this sport?
01:17:23.300
BMX is popping off in Japan because they just had the Olympics.
01:17:33.840
Oh, because it was the first time they ever had BMX in the thing?
01:17:35.760
Yeah, first time I had BMX, first time I had skateboarding.
01:17:45.720
And then he turns around and he almost goes too far.
01:17:52.420
If not, it's somebody who definitely is going to try and get child support out of him.
01:18:04.520
That makes my freaking penis just go inside of my body, dog.
01:18:11.260
If I'm really concentrating, I can feel, like, my dick shrinking.
01:18:28.700
Now, do you feel like he's totally confident at this point?
01:19:01.800
Do you think he made it that close on purpose or not?
01:19:14.140
Like, you're saying you got to come in where there's enough of that gradient.
01:19:16.860
Yeah, because if you don't catch the transition, then you're pancaking.
01:19:23.320
Do you feel pretty proud of yourself a lot of times?
01:19:29.140
When I achieve something that I've really wanted to do for a long time, I'll feel that.
01:19:35.140
That's one problem that I have is just it's, like, on to the next.
01:19:37.640
It's hard to sit and smell the roses when I'm just so passionate about it.
01:19:42.300
And it's like, why stop when I don't have to or when I am able to just keep going?
01:19:46.980
It's hard for me to sit back and go, whoa, sick.
01:19:52.480
Yeah, and maybe because I think at some point, in some ways, there's not a ton of value in it.
01:19:56.680
I think there's value in, like, having appreciation for what you're doing and, like, recognizing it.
01:20:01.600
But, yeah, to sit there and just smell the roses, you know, you got to keep watering them, too.
01:20:07.260
I'll just always find that kind of interesting.
01:20:09.840
Is there a trick or something you have your eyes kind of set on?
01:20:12.000
Is there, like, a new template or a new, like, mode or something that you see yourself maybe being able to, like, a new type of ramp?
01:20:23.540
Is there things that you think of sometimes that you...
01:20:26.740
Well, obviously, it'd be so cool to do something like that, like, something out there and just different, not just a new variation of a trick, you know?
01:20:33.940
But there's tricks that I have on my trick list that I want to do that are, like, going to be that really next level.
01:20:54.160
I wouldn't nearly do it at the very start, but it's going to be...
01:20:56.940
So, I would do, like, a flip with a 180 turn and then a flip with a 180 turn and then the last one would just be straight.
01:21:12.720
When you guys go out on some of these tours, is the partying pretty good?
01:21:17.000
Like, people on the Nitro Circus tour or Australians in general, do you think?
01:21:25.040
I mean, Australians party so hard, but I feel like everywhere party's pretty hard.
01:21:30.720
Like, you just reach a point where you just go mad.
01:21:33.120
But I think on tour, it's so insane because we're all, like, super passionate.
01:21:38.360
You know, everyone is, like, at the pinnacle of their sport, action sport.
01:21:44.680
Like, if you went to a skate park, there's that one kid that's, like, insane.
01:21:48.760
And then, like, if you handpick, like, the best ones, join them into a group, like, a circus.
01:21:55.540
Like, we all are, like, kind of have ADHD, I guess.
01:21:58.740
Well, and we're all just super passionate, so...
01:22:02.440
Or do you hear stories that there used to be more partying?
01:22:04.280
Because with comedy, you always hear stories like, people were doing cocaine right here.
01:22:10.180
It's just, like, gotten hella fucking lame, dude.
01:22:12.340
Yeah, it's changed a lot for us, too, because I'm the youngest on tour, so...
01:22:18.940
But it used to be, like, everyone else was 20s, like, in their 20s, in their 30s.
01:22:23.940
But now they all have families and, like, kids, so it's, like, mellowed out a lot.
01:22:28.040
But in a way, that's a good thing and a bad thing, because we're all, like, smarter, wiser,
01:22:34.840
You're not getting drunk and then potentially, like, riding the next day, hungover and hurting yourself.
01:22:40.700
But there's guys on tour that literally will just drink into oblivion and then wake up
01:22:47.920
Like, you have the rock star dudes still doing that.
01:22:55.180
Like, a few drinks here and everyone's kind of a rock star again.
01:23:01.720
Like, I definitely love to have fun, go out and, like, party.
01:23:04.860
And, like, I had a few drinks at the Laugh Factory last night.
01:23:07.760
It would have been weird for me to, like, go party and then go do a show.
01:23:11.080
Because I have a younger following, too, and I want to be 100%.
01:23:15.160
Like, when I do a show, I feel like a lot of people, I'm representing scootering.
01:23:19.220
I'm representing action sports to, like, families and kids.
01:23:22.400
Just the term I'm representing scootering is so insane.
01:23:28.100
And it's so great to think of something that, yeah, you'd see some, like, yeah, you see some kid on and you're like, ah, fuck this kid, you know, 10 years ago.
01:23:36.200
But then now I'm sitting here enamored by this kid, you know.
01:23:42.140
Like, ever since the start, man, I was like, what can I do?
01:23:44.860
Like, scootering literally gave me my life, like, this amazing life.
01:23:50.260
I'm like, what could I do to stop that kid at the skate park getting grief like I did so he can just enjoy it, you know, and just, even though it was probably a good thing for me.
01:24:03.300
It's like, we want to stop all the bullying, but fuck, dude.
01:24:06.340
If I didn't get bullied some, dude, I would not.
01:24:18.760
And they're always, everyone's always, it's always going to be there.
01:24:24.520
I got it so bad in school, like, and then I got it so bad at the skate park.
01:24:28.900
And it, like, almost built this hard shell around my body that is, like, I don't, like, it bounces off me.
01:24:36.640
Any playground I drive by, dude, if I'm by myself, I roll down the window and yell a damn little slur or something.
01:24:44.080
Something where if somebody's out there, they're just like, what did I just hear?
01:25:01.040
What is something else that's kind of shitty that you could take and make it fucking awesome, bro?
01:25:06.820
And if you guys have ideas in there, too, Chris, let us know.
01:25:09.400
What is the next thing that Ryan could take that is.
01:25:21.420
I couldn't see this being a mode to become amazing.
01:25:48.080
Bro, if you could do something on that and then open it and take something out.
01:25:52.080
I mean, I'm just thinking, what if you do that thing where, like, sometimes people want to
01:25:57.560
be cool when they're handicapped and they get that little, like, knee thing?
01:26:11.300
That'd be perfect for the airport just cruising around.
01:26:13.600
Oh, dude, especially to see you on it would be legendary.
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Did that dude just fucking do a 670 through TSA?
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That thing's pretty, that was pretty great, actually.
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The thing is, this thing doesn't turn or twist.
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People are taking these things and actually doing,
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You know, your sport is one interesting thing that guys, like, you know,
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people can't just come into your sport and do it.
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That's why a lot of, that's why scooters actually got grief from people.
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Like, you can, you could jump on a scooter right now.
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So, it's, it's just so accessible that, like, little kids just grab it and they go.
01:28:32.480
So, they're at the skate park dropping in and just, like, getting in the way
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And that's kind of, like, where we get the bad rap is because it's so accessible
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and kids can just do it instantly and be in the road and not be, like,
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But it's, like, you could do the same thing if, if a kid only had a skateboard
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It's not easy to just get a skateboard and drop in.
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Like, it takes you a few weeks to get comfortable to do something.
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And in those weeks, you get told by your friends, hey, don't do this.
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Do you see yourself getting in anything motorized?
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I've flipped a motorbike that travels for Strana's, but it's gnarly, dude.
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What I've seen, we just had last weekend, our mate Bo Bamboo, we've done, like, 20 shows
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and he fell once, broke his collarbone, like, in one crash.
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So, it's just, like, instantly, if you fall off a motorbike, it's, like, you're done.
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Whereas, I can fall off, get up, go try again, like, a hundred times, motorbike, crash once.
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Like, compared to the guys on tour, I'm super lucky.
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Only, I fractured my ankle, my, both wrists, separated my shoulders, smashed my teeth out,
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And it's a very neck and neck mix as well, I think, you know.
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I'm trying to think of any other questions that I could think of that I really wanted to
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Yeah, what do you feel like is, like, oh, dude, they have, like, a lot of, like,
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what is the babes, like, how much babes is out there?
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Do they have a lot of, like, kind of, like, do a lot of the guys end up marrying girls
01:30:57.080
Because it seems like kind of a, like, I know it's a big world, but I know it seems like
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It takes a certain person to, like, want to be with, like, an action sports athlete.
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It's, like, kind of, like, you're going to be risking it with them.
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A chick that's into action sports, like, I'm sure I could, but I would be, like, freaking
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I could watch a dude slam all day, laugh at it.
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But a chick, like, falling over, I'm like, no, stop.
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So, I can imagine, like, it'd be hard, but, yeah, you get chicks coming out.
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Like, we're just, like, so confident in our ability.
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They're just like, this guy really likes riding his scooter, and he doesn't care.
01:31:46.340
You know, if you're Louis Armstrong on that bitch, then the ladies will show up.
01:31:49.520
Where are the better ladies, do you think, in the U.S. or Australia, have you found?
01:31:56.740
It is a hard question, but do you have a type of woman, you think, or that you like one
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It's just, like, it's, like, whoever is just cool, you know?
01:32:06.920
Like, Australian women are a bit, like, obviously, we're a bit crazy, so maybe I'd gel better
01:32:16.200
But I always dreamed of maybe going to Australia, finding me a little wife or something, a little
01:32:28.000
Yeah, I think it was, I think we, I've just been constantly talking, so that's sick.
01:32:39.040
And, like, I had been talking to him, because we obviously have the, we have Nitro Circus
01:32:42.260
in San Bernardino, and I was like, oh, dude, get your tickets, and he's like, he was like,
01:32:46.840
I don't know what my one-year-old's going to do.
01:32:48.320
Is he going to just, like, not even understand?
01:32:50.120
I was like, just get him head, like, you got to get the headphones, because the, the bike's
01:33:02.860
Yeah, it's pretty, I'm definitely excited about it.
01:33:05.620
Um, somebody just sent me a picture, they had a billboard in Times Square, that was
01:33:12.160
I want to go tour back over in Australia, I just got to get some more jokes, I just got
01:33:17.000
Yeah, they, um, it's pretty hard to get there, though, right now.
01:33:20.600
Yeah, how, how, how, that's the last thing I was going to ask you is, how ridiculous
01:33:25.220
Oh, man, it sucks so bad, and the thing, the craziest thing is, when I was there, I was
01:33:29.740
like, oh, yeah, this makes sense, like, everyone's doing it.
01:33:32.620
That's the thing, when you're, like, blinded, when you don't, you're
01:33:35.500
only see what's happening in the country, you're like, oh, it's okay, we're all
01:33:39.120
together, we're doing this together for a reason, you know?
01:33:42.580
And then, they're like, oh, America's so bad, there's so many cases, like, it's, just
01:33:47.740
And then, I literally got here, I got outside, everyone, it's, like, totally
01:33:52.180
And it's like, maybe they make you wear a mask, like, here and there, but I don't
01:33:55.440
have to, like, I don't have to quarantine for two weeks in a hotel room by myself to
01:34:06.720
So, I just had to get the test, right, to get on the plane, got here, sweet, all good,
01:34:15.620
Yeah, because Jim Jeffries just had a tour scheduled in Australia, right, his home country, right?
01:34:19.860
He goes back for two weeks, he's in his hotel, and on the last day, and he's going to start
01:34:27.800
his tour right after that, all the tickets are sold, they came to him, they said three
01:34:31.860
people down the block had just gotten COVID and he has to go back to America now and his
01:34:37.040
Could you fucking, that would make me kill somebody.
01:34:44.500
Man, they've opened up a little bit in certain states, so I'm going to just go chill there,
01:34:49.400
because I'm not, I can't sit in a room for two weeks, dude.
01:34:55.180
I mean, even when you go to like, if you go to like other parts of America, it's even
01:35:00.520
And you're like, even coming to Los Angeles seems really, really.
01:35:03.960
I was in like Nashville, and that was just so wild.
01:35:11.320
So, these two have been doing baseball stadiums, all outdoors.
01:35:13.880
It's actually funny because the motor ramp, we can't do that motor ramp indoors because
01:35:21.060
What's the highest ramp that's built right now for you guys to be able to use?
01:35:24.720
So, the ramp that the guy did the quad backflip off, I think it's like 20 foot.
01:35:34.980
What's the safest ramp that you can technically use right now?
01:35:39.040
The one that we use on tour is about 16 foot off the ground.
01:35:43.380
Could they build a 30 foot ramp if you wanted, or you wouldn't be able to get to the top
01:35:50.680
And if someone wants to do five flips, that's how it goes.
01:35:53.000
If you want to do more things in the air, even though it sounds like crazier to have
01:35:58.980
that bigger ramp, it's just going to give you that more time to get the trick done.
01:36:02.960
Because it's like right now, you just pushed for time in the air.
01:36:13.820
Well, when you come back down, make sure to come back to the podcast, man.
01:36:20.240
We'll put all of his links and everything, bro.
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I know you and I have been communicating for years, man.
01:36:35.540
And I think he might be our first Australian guest.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind.
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