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00:02:03.800 Today's guest just finished his new album, College Park, which you can grab out there.

00:02:10.940 He has seven albums that have been created.

00:02:13.040 He's a rapper and a producer.

00:02:15.540 He's now delving more into the worlds of YouTube and TikToks.

00:02:19.840 You can get to know him as a human as well.

00:02:24.040 He's Grammy-nominated.

00:02:25.980 You may know him as the Young Sinatra.

00:02:27.980 Today's guest is Logic.

00:02:29.660 You got an elevator.

00:02:59.040 That's annoying.

00:03:00.780 I have a fucking elevator in my, like, house.

00:03:04.220 Well, it's like on the outside of it.

00:03:06.340 Dang, rich check.

00:03:08.180 But-

00:03:08.700 Wow, bro.

00:03:09.720 What do you mean you have a real elevator?

00:03:11.820 And what do you have people, like, waiting?

00:03:13.440 Like, how do you-

00:03:14.220 Well, no, there's just an elevator that's like-

00:03:16.020 It's like in my building.

00:03:17.760 But it's basically my elevator, basically.

00:03:20.640 Like, so say if you get in it and the door's open, where are you?

00:03:25.380 I'm right, I'm at my door.

00:03:29.000 But are you in your apartment, in your condo or home or are you at-

00:03:32.920 No, I'm like a doorway.

00:03:34.240 Okay.

00:03:34.480 I'm a doorway.

00:03:34.880 But it's not a lobby.

00:03:35.860 It's like a private, it's like right there.

00:03:37.840 Like, it's like a shared, it's like me and the other, because I'm in Malibu in this condo.

00:03:41.660 So-

00:03:41.800 Oh, nice.

00:03:42.500 It's a vibe.

00:03:43.020 So you go all the way down.

00:03:44.060 But wait, what I was going to say was, I'm really happy to be here.

00:03:48.100 Thanks, man.

00:03:48.820 Seriously.

00:03:49.300 You're like TikTok Ellen.

00:03:50.880 Oh, dang.

00:03:51.460 It's a big deal to be here.

00:03:53.120 That's cool.

00:03:53.740 I didn't know that.

00:03:54.680 I mean, we have a similar haircut, or at some point we did.

00:03:57.300 And we're both from Louisiana, which is kind of crazy.

00:04:01.840 You probably wouldn't think that Ellen's from Louisiana, huh?

00:04:03.880 I didn't know that you were both from, I didn't know she was from there.

00:04:06.140 Yeah, I think she grew up there.

00:04:07.400 Can you look that up, Zach?

00:04:09.120 Huh?

00:04:09.420 Ellen.

00:04:10.400 Ellen DeGeneres.

00:04:11.520 Oh, yeah.

00:04:12.560 Yo, Ellen DeGeneres is, that was my big thing.

00:04:16.300 I always wanted to be on Ellen, because I watched Ellen since I was a little boy.

00:04:19.240 Yeah.

00:04:19.420 And then I was like, yo, if you make it on Ellen, like you made it.

00:04:22.020 And then I actually went to Ellen and performed.

00:04:25.480 I met Kobe.

00:04:26.480 He was there when you went on?

00:04:27.740 Dude.

00:04:28.220 Yeah.

00:04:28.520 Kobe was there.

00:04:29.560 Let's see.

00:04:30.040 What does it say?

00:04:30.920 Metairie, Louisiana.

00:04:31.700 Wow, Louisiana.

00:04:32.640 That's crazy.

00:04:33.440 Wow.

00:04:33.860 Metairie's kind of wild.

00:04:34.680 Metairie's a good place to, like, if you want to do drugs with somebody that's Italian

00:04:42.540 at night.

00:04:45.260 Okay.

00:04:47.180 Well, speaking of drugs.

00:04:48.680 That's a good place.

00:04:49.600 She was originally supposed to be the chick in Pulp Fiction, not Uma Thurman.

00:04:57.040 Not Uma Thurman's character.

00:04:59.020 But do you remember when they were, like, stabbing her in the heart to give her the adrenaline,

00:05:03.080 the shot of adrenaline?

00:05:04.460 And the chick's house, when John Travolta's like, who's that girl with all that shit on

00:05:08.720 her face?

00:05:09.140 And he's like, that's my wife.

00:05:10.980 Ellen was supposed to play the chick with all the shit on her face.

00:05:12.980 Oh, really?

00:05:14.000 Yeah.

00:05:14.180 Fun fucking fact.

00:05:15.220 Oh, there it is.

00:05:15.960 Yeah.

00:05:16.320 That would have been Ellen DeGeneres.

00:05:17.700 That would have been Ellen?

00:05:18.740 Yeah.

00:05:19.300 Oh, dang.

00:05:20.520 Yeah.

00:05:20.820 But that was a highlight for me.

00:05:22.540 You went there.

00:05:23.920 What do you mean?

00:05:24.440 You went to Ellen.

00:05:25.180 Yeah.

00:05:25.560 I went there.

00:05:26.140 Well, I went twice, actually.

00:05:27.540 Damn.

00:05:28.560 Yeah.

00:05:28.900 And then we became, like, homies.

00:05:30.440 And then next thing I know, I'm, like, us and our wives are, like, at her restaurant.

00:05:35.400 And fucking Leonardo DiCaprio comes up.

00:05:37.460 And he's like, oh, what's up, Logic?

00:05:39.120 Blah, blah, blah.

00:05:39.440 I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

00:05:41.300 What's my life?

00:05:41.880 I felt like somehow I was, like, joining the Illuminati.

00:05:43.980 Yeah.

00:05:44.460 It was wild.

00:05:45.180 Yeah.

00:05:45.440 It must sort of feel like as you get more popular that you start to meet certain people

00:05:49.100 and you're like, damn, am I getting closer to, like, meeting, like, the final, like,

00:05:53.580 lizard boss or whatever?

00:05:55.720 Yeah, I guess.

00:05:56.860 You know?

00:05:57.420 Bro, it's insane.

00:05:58.480 I'm actually, because I'm going ham on social media now.

00:06:00.560 Uh-huh.

00:06:00.820 Like, I'm, like, taking it so seriously, spending really good money on, you know, my team, my

00:06:06.200 camera guys, my editing.

00:06:07.380 Like, I have in-house editors and I have two houses that I'm paying because I have so much

00:06:12.040 shit that's coming because I've realized-

00:06:13.960 Are you, like, editor trafficking, it sounds like, almost?

00:06:15.660 I'm editor trafficking.

00:06:16.860 Dang.

00:06:17.460 Yeah.

00:06:17.760 But it's all good.

00:06:18.780 Yeah.

00:06:18.980 And no, but I really believe in, like, this next chapter of my career where I'm just going

00:06:22.420 to be making music and having a blast.

00:06:23.860 But, like, I feel that my personality is really what makes me, me.

00:06:28.580 It's what makes Logic Logic.

00:06:29.740 You know, the biracial guy, like, just being myself.

00:06:32.580 And, um, I'm about to lean into that shit hard as fuck.

00:06:36.560 So, but what was I saying about Ellen?

00:06:38.240 Well, it's interesting.

00:06:38.960 I think, like, as I watch you, I think, like, first, obviously, people get to know you through

00:06:43.300 your music, right?

00:06:44.200 Yeah, for sure.

00:06:44.600 Or a lot of people have.

00:06:46.020 But I also, then I also find, and I found this, I haven't found this about a lot of musicians,

00:06:50.520 and, um, a lot of musicians kind of aren't interesting.

00:06:53.500 They're interesting through their music, but they aren't, uh, I've found a lot of musicians

00:06:59.100 are tough to interview because, um...

00:07:01.880 It's the personification.

00:07:02.920 They're trying to portray, like, who they are on the record rather than allowing themselves

00:07:06.760 to just be them.

00:07:08.100 You know what I mean?

00:07:08.600 It's like, Mariah Carey takes shits.

00:07:10.480 You know what I mean?

00:07:10.940 But maybe she doesn't want to talk about that on the show.

00:07:13.140 You know what I mean?

00:07:13.540 Like, I got, I got to use wet wipes.

00:07:15.160 What about you?

00:07:16.700 I'm still, I'm still afraid to admit which way I wipe.

00:07:19.920 What you mean?

00:07:21.100 You be wiping towards the ball?

00:07:22.680 I mean, I don't know.

00:07:23.640 Are you fucking serious?

00:07:24.680 What?

00:07:24.900 That's crazy.

00:07:25.400 You what?

00:07:26.640 You wipe towards your balls?

00:07:28.120 I don't think so.

00:07:29.660 Anyway, man.

00:07:30.440 So, I use, um, I use, I use wet wipes.

00:07:34.960 I don't know.

00:07:35.720 I mean, they should have people, like, kind of, like, that should be something you have

00:07:39.280 to, like, instead of, like, your gender, like, say which way you wipe.

00:07:42.160 Like, that way people can just assume your gender right there.

00:07:45.460 I get it.

00:07:45.980 I guess.

00:07:46.440 I don't know.

00:07:46.940 But I've never heard about, I've never heard of a man wiping towards his balls.

00:07:50.000 Yeah, that's insane.

00:07:50.860 I think that'd be, who would do it, you know?

00:07:53.320 Nobody I know.

00:07:54.320 Yeah.

00:07:54.420 Anyway, question.

00:07:55.780 I have a question for you.

00:07:57.280 Is, um, first of all, are you cool talking about, like, fam?

00:08:00.440 Nothing weird.

00:08:01.160 I'm just saying, like, family.

00:08:02.060 Like, if I asked you about family and stuff.

00:08:03.660 Okay, cool.

00:08:04.060 Because I don't know.

00:08:04.500 You never know.

00:08:05.080 Yeah, totally.

00:08:05.860 So, your dad, when he had you, was 70 years old?

00:08:09.320 Yeah.

00:08:09.800 Bro.

00:08:10.840 Because I was looking shit up.

00:08:11.880 Because, like, I've seen, you know, cool, stand-up, fun stuff like that.

00:08:15.680 But, like, before I came to the show, I was like, man, I really want to know even more

00:08:18.900 about this guy.

00:08:20.940 So, that means that your father was born, like, over 110 years ago?

00:08:25.480 Yeah.

00:08:26.060 Let me think.

00:08:26.540 I was just, it's so funny you ask this, man.

00:08:27.680 I was just thinking about him the other day.

00:08:28.980 And I was thinking about how, um, how old he would be if he was alive.

00:08:35.020 He would be, he was born in 1910.

00:08:37.700 Crazy.

00:08:38.000 So, he would be 113 this year.

00:08:41.860 Wow.

00:08:42.620 That's.

00:08:43.260 It'd be crazy.

00:08:43.700 My grandfather was born in 1880.

00:08:47.660 But to be busting nuts at 70.

00:08:50.140 Oh, I don't want to do it.

00:08:51.620 That's wild.

00:08:52.480 Because your heart could stop.

00:08:54.880 Well, that reminds me of my dad.

00:08:56.060 I feel like every time you're, like, getting close, it's just a risk.

00:08:58.820 Ask, man.

00:09:00.560 How old was your dad?

00:09:01.620 And thank you for asking, man.

00:09:02.940 It's sweet to you that you checked out and you care.

00:09:04.940 It's nice to think about my dad.

00:09:06.220 I was thinking the other day how it would be cool if they had a place where you could

00:09:08.860 take clothing from, like, a deceased parent and put it on a mannequin and go spend time

00:09:12.900 with your family in a weird way.

00:09:14.960 That's funny.

00:09:15.620 Like, if people need that kind of healing in their lives or something.

00:09:19.260 I know you had kind of a wild upbringing.

00:09:20.620 So, you started out in Maryland, right?

00:09:22.600 Yes, sir.

00:09:23.040 Okay.

00:09:23.380 Just for our audience that doesn't know.

00:09:24.600 Because some of our audience might not know you, and I want them to get to know you.

00:09:27.160 And so, you started out in Maryland, and your parents are, both your parents are different

00:09:32.220 colors, right?

00:09:33.060 Yeah.

00:09:33.220 My dad's black, and my mom is white.

00:09:35.400 And I was conceived in a crack house after they had met each other after about three days.

00:09:40.860 Yep.

00:09:41.440 Bender.

00:09:41.880 A bender baby.

00:09:42.940 Bender baby.

00:09:43.680 Yeah.

00:09:44.240 My mom was a prostitute.

00:09:45.740 My dad was a crack addict for a long time.

00:09:50.160 I'm named after my dad.

00:09:52.160 And, yeah.

00:09:53.460 What's really crazy, though, is I remember my dad telling me, he was like, yeah, you know

00:09:58.380 I got a paternity test to make sure your ass was mine.

00:10:00.160 Because I came out looking white as fuck.

00:10:02.220 Yeah.

00:10:02.720 Because it's very apparent my father is a black man.

00:10:04.860 Like, he's not half black.

00:10:06.060 He's not this.

00:10:06.380 He's fucking black.

00:10:07.540 And, um, I thought he did it, like, when I came out the canal.

00:10:12.660 But the, uh, literally, bro, like, three days ago, a buddy of mine was at my crib, and he's

00:10:17.260 like, oh, fuck, I got a warrant.

00:10:18.440 I'm like, what do you mean you got a warrant?

00:10:20.560 And he's like, I got a warrant in Maryland.

00:10:22.140 And I'm like, bro, when's the last time you were there?

00:10:23.820 He was like, 10 years ago.

00:10:24.660 I'm like, oh, shit, what do you got to do?

00:10:25.920 So, he has to write the judge.

00:10:27.300 Long story short, he was looking up his criminal history on this website.

00:10:31.480 And he's like, yeah, you can type in anybody's name.

00:10:33.260 And I'm like, yo, type in my fucking dad.

00:10:36.980 So, he types in, he types in my dad.

00:10:39.880 And my dad's like, bro, he, like, stole my identity and maxed out credit cards before

00:10:43.900 I was 18 and shit, because we had the same name.

00:10:46.500 And so, um, I'm like, let's look it up.

00:10:50.460 So, we look it up, and I'm just seeing, like, petty theft, car theft, possession charges.

00:10:56.160 And then I see Terry Lee Miller, my mother's maiden name, versus Robert Hall, defendant.

00:11:02.940 And I'm like, what the fuck is this?

00:11:04.420 And it says, paternity slash child support.

00:11:07.040 Bro, it's like 1999, so I'm nine years old.

00:11:11.120 Right.

00:11:11.500 And I look this, it's so crazy.

00:11:13.300 Like, bro, I never knew, like, you know, I heard about it.

00:11:16.240 I kind of saw things when I was a kid, but you don't really put too much together.

00:11:20.200 Yeah.

00:11:20.460 And then you see on the internet, you're kind of, it's almost like you're wandering through yourself.

00:11:23.860 It's like I'm reading, I already wrote a biography.

00:11:26.480 You know what I mean?

00:11:26.940 I wrote an autobiography.

00:11:28.160 So, now I'm reading something that's even crazier.

00:11:31.640 And so, what's hilarious is that it shows, like, that my dad took a paternity test, because

00:11:36.360 he was like, that ain't my baby.

00:11:37.860 Nine years later.

00:11:39.660 And it's nine years.

00:11:40.640 I wonder if you did something at eight years old that he's like, nah, I'm out.

00:11:43.620 Yeah.

00:11:43.860 But the best part is, fuck the internet, I'm black.

00:11:48.340 I told you.

00:11:49.480 I fucking told you.

00:11:51.560 So, yeah, that was wild.

00:11:53.040 Dude, yeah, I think these days, yeah, being black definitely helps.

00:11:55.980 I think everything's kind of heading towards that kind of Ben Simmons kind of trans sort

00:12:00.900 of vibe where everybody's going to be.

00:12:03.100 I think-

00:12:03.400 Olive people.

00:12:04.260 That's what I said.

00:12:04.900 Olive people, man.

00:12:05.060 We've always said, like, beige power.

00:12:06.680 Like, in three generations, you can't, you're going to need, even now, you need, like,

00:12:10.620 a chart to be racist.

00:12:11.900 I feel like you need, like, a, you know what I'm saying?

00:12:13.920 You need to, like, carry the one if you're really going to get into it.

00:12:16.540 You can't even yell.

00:12:17.840 It used to just be a little yell, like, f*** or something out of the window, and it

00:12:21.900 would land on somebody.

00:12:22.900 But now it's like everybody's, yeah.

00:12:24.280 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:25.180 I agree.

00:12:25.480 But, yeah, crazy-

00:12:26.840 That's crazy, man.

00:12:27.960 Did it make you feel like he didn't care or something at that point?

00:12:30.540 Because that would be, I feel like if I saw that, or did your mom, like, instigate

00:12:35.000 it, and so that's why he had to do it?

00:12:36.940 No, I think, well, I definitely think she wanted child support, but also I'm just like,

00:12:40.620 woman, what you going to get from a crackhead?

00:12:43.180 Like, I'm just being real, right?

00:12:44.380 I love my dad.

00:12:45.000 He's clean nowadays.

00:12:46.340 I actually, I haven't talked to him in a couple of years, and I just texted him the other

00:12:49.200 day, and so I'm always trying, it's like a f***ing black hole, no pun intended, that

00:12:54.460 I'm always trying to go through.

00:12:56.460 It's just, whatever.

00:12:57.340 Anyway, I'm like, woman, why would you even try to get child support when the man can't

00:13:02.480 take care of himself at the time?

00:13:04.260 So I'm like, it just, to me, it doesn't make sense, but now, your dad has my dad on age

00:13:10.540 nut busting, but my dad was 63.

00:13:13.140 This is what's really crazy.

00:13:13.920 So I'm one of nine.

00:13:15.280 Wow.

00:13:15.680 But I'm the only child between my mother and my father.

00:13:18.280 So my mother has all, all her children are with black men, and all my brothers and sisters

00:13:26.320 on my dad's side, they're all, so everybody's mixed, but I'm the whitest looking mother.

00:13:29.560 I'm the most transparent.

00:13:30.440 And what's crazy is, is 33 years ago, after I was born, my dad got a vasectomy, okay?

00:13:40.100 And then five years ago, I find out that I have a little brother.

00:13:43.840 No.

00:13:45.400 So the story is a wild one.

00:13:48.080 Now-

00:13:48.260 So he was already chopped out, and then he got a new baby somehow?

00:13:51.980 Yeah, it's actually just poked through.

00:13:53.340 And it's his, because you know they made him get a paternity.

00:13:56.340 Yeah.

00:13:56.720 Just like me.

00:13:57.380 Yeah, I know, dude.

00:13:58.240 He probably just has a stack of pizzas at his house, man.

00:14:01.780 What's wild, though, about my dad is that, who I love, I'm just keeping it real.

00:14:06.140 You know what I always find really funny is, like, sometimes my family would be like,

00:14:09.180 we don't want our business out there.

00:14:10.340 And I'm like, you shouldn't have done all that dumb ass shit.

00:14:13.600 What the fuck do you mean?

00:14:14.840 But anyway, I would never say anything too crazy.

00:14:17.800 Yeah, totally.

00:14:17.880 But this is all public fucking knowledge.

00:14:19.480 Yeah, apparently.

00:14:20.440 Fuck.

00:14:20.680 Exactly.

00:14:21.040 So my dad, I find out I have a little brother.

00:14:25.560 It's like 2018.

00:14:26.200 And I read about this in my book, because I actually wanted to adopt my brother, but that's

00:14:30.820 another story.

00:14:31.480 Wow.

00:14:31.800 So I had a stepmother.

00:14:33.800 Her name was Debbie.

00:14:36.000 And Debbie and my dad would use together.

00:14:38.580 And Debbie OD'd and wound up in a coma for four months.

00:14:45.500 So she's in a coma.

00:14:46.840 Beautiful woman.

00:14:47.520 She's in a coma.

00:14:48.180 My dad is like, all right, well, this sucks.

00:14:52.200 He's in the program, AA.

00:14:54.200 And he goes up to one of his friends, and they're talking to dad.

00:14:57.360 They find out that a close friend of his is dying.

00:15:01.120 I think it was like cancer or something.

00:15:02.780 So he goes to see her.

00:15:03.960 And like her last words are like, take care of my daughter.

00:15:06.760 And her daughter was like this young 21-year-old girl.

00:15:09.680 And he took care of her.

00:15:10.320 He fucked her and knocked her up.

00:15:11.420 No.

00:15:11.820 Oh, that's so AA.

00:15:13.840 She is so AA.

00:15:15.260 Everyone's fucking each other.

00:15:17.000 Anyway, knocks her up.

00:15:19.940 Shortly after the baby's born, she dies of a heroin overdose.

00:15:23.160 No.

00:15:24.460 Then, and now this had happened a bit before, but while all this was happening, my dad had

00:15:30.160 started seeing a woman who I think is now his current wife.

00:15:35.260 And then his then wife comes out of the coma, and he's like, it's over.

00:15:41.820 I'm just like, yo, that's so crazy.

00:15:44.120 Well, sometimes women take a long time to make, to decide.

00:15:47.140 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:15:48.100 But it's like, wow, she can't, I love how the first thing she gets out of the coma.

00:15:52.080 I know.

00:15:52.540 And then unfortunately, she OD'd and died a couple years later.

00:15:56.320 But this is like the life I grew up in, man, just drugs and violence and guns, and my

00:15:59.640 brother's running in the streets.

00:16:00.860 And you have surprise siblings.

00:16:02.300 It's like.

00:16:02.760 Surprise siblings, bro.

00:16:03.640 Like 11 years old, I found out I had four siblings.

00:16:06.400 I was like, what?

00:16:07.480 It seems like so, like such a chaotic environment to grow up in.

00:16:10.660 And like, were there times, were there like some special times you remember like spending

00:16:14.300 with your mom or dad that was just kind of like you and them one-on-one that were like,

00:16:18.580 that was kind of like a warm, like human kind of time?

00:16:21.880 Yeah.

00:16:22.280 I remember this one time my dad stole my earring upon it for crack.

00:16:25.340 That was dope.

00:16:26.140 Damn.

00:16:27.200 It was just one earring too?

00:16:28.680 It was just one earring.

00:16:30.000 Yeah.

00:16:30.160 No, I guess, I guess a few times I had with my dad was music because he's a musician.

00:16:36.520 So he plays like go-go music, which is, you know, prominent in DC.

00:16:39.940 And he played with EU and Chuck Brown and different people.

00:16:43.060 And I think that's where I get a lot of my musical talent.

00:16:45.160 But he's the type of motherfucker though, he would like take me to the studio.

00:16:47.640 And if there was like studio time that he schemed, like I would get none of it.

00:16:52.780 Like he'd be like in there singing, like, you know, he's got some, he's got some songs.

00:16:55.740 One of his most famous lines is, she's just a crackhead bitch sucking on the devil's ding

00:17:00.940 dong.

00:17:01.700 And he's talking about smoking a pipe.

00:17:03.500 I'm like.

00:17:04.380 I feel like that's copywritten, dude.

00:17:05.620 I've heard that every crackhead I feel like plays that.

00:17:09.180 Straight up.

00:17:10.020 I feel like that is like a national anthem.

00:17:11.900 So my mom, my mom, we, we, there was definitely for as, as sick mentally as my mother was and

00:17:20.500 is, I haven't talked to her in over a decade now, unfortunately.

00:17:23.400 Wow.

00:17:23.980 And I'd love to, but she's just not there.

00:17:26.500 She's the type of person to be like, don't take the Lord's name in vain.

00:17:30.060 God damn it.

00:17:30.680 You motherfucker.

00:17:31.340 Like crazy.

00:17:32.560 You know what I'm saying?

00:17:33.360 And she was, she would, she'd hit me with the hard R and all my, my brothers and sisters

00:17:37.580 growing up.

00:17:38.300 It's weird.

00:17:39.040 It was like.

00:17:39.680 Yeah, man.

00:17:40.180 Your mom would embalm you.

00:17:41.280 Yeah, bro.

00:17:41.680 It was like this systemic because she, you know, I remember her telling me that she

00:17:45.780 brought, you know, a 14 year old black boy home to introduce to her parents.

00:17:49.220 And they were like, we don't mix with their kind here.

00:17:50.800 Like wild shit.

00:17:51.840 Right.

00:17:52.060 It was like old school racism.

00:17:53.440 Yeah.

00:17:53.460 So it was in her.

00:17:54.700 Cause she would always, obviously she's fucking black guys.

00:17:57.980 You like, you're not, you know what I mean?

00:17:59.600 It's like, you know, who's fucking them.

00:18:00.820 Usually back in the day they were driving like a Honda Civic.

00:18:04.020 It would be kind of like a thick girl that got sunburned pretty easy and was driving a

00:18:07.680 Honda Civic.

00:18:08.400 And if she was a redhead dude, she's smashing brothers though.

00:18:12.020 No cat, bro.

00:18:13.120 There was no, every girl that drove by with a fucking Honda Civic, dude, that was a little

00:18:18.180 bit thick, bro.

00:18:19.100 It was catching some sun and freckles were showing up on her shoulders, bro.

00:18:22.120 Oh my God.

00:18:22.800 She was going over to a brother's house.

00:18:24.560 I had some good times.

00:18:25.460 I did.

00:18:25.920 I had some good times with my mom, but I had more work.

00:18:28.760 Like my mother, she almost strangled me to death one time.

00:18:30.480 I just been, I've been kidnapped.

00:18:32.180 I've been through the gnarliest shit, fucking molested, wild shit.

00:18:36.100 But well, and that was just, that was my dad's girlfriend.

00:18:39.360 She just kissed me with Skittles in her fucking mouth and I could taste the rainbow.

00:18:41.980 Oh God, that'd make me fucking hard.

00:18:43.360 Yeah, it was great.

00:18:45.940 I swear to God, dude, if a woman, I remember if any woman came even near me when I was a

00:18:51.040 child, I'd get it right.

00:18:52.040 What is up with that though?

00:18:53.060 That's a real thing.

00:18:53.900 I used to be in ninth grade.

00:18:54.940 Like I couldn't get up.

00:18:55.760 They'd be like, could you please write this mathematical equation?

00:18:58.620 And I'm like, I'm fucking doing math like Zach Galifianakis to decrease my boner before

00:19:02.900 you stand up.

00:19:03.800 But yeah.

00:19:04.800 I think, well, for me, I think there was no, like I had such a, like a rocky connection

00:19:09.000 with my own mother.

00:19:09.800 Like she didn't show me like a lot of, and I say this a lot, but I don't really go into

00:19:13.580 it.

00:19:13.740 She like didn't show me like a lot of affection and she like would kind of look at me with

00:19:19.580 judgment all the time.

00:19:21.080 And so I never knew anytime I got around a woman, it was always like a lot of like real

00:19:28.260 like uncomfortable energy.

00:19:30.300 Was this even when you were like a child?

00:19:32.180 Did you feel this way?

00:19:33.060 Or was it more in your teenage, in later years?

00:19:35.240 I didn't notice it until I got a little bit.

00:19:37.060 Now I notice it all.

00:19:37.960 It all makes a lot of sense.

00:19:39.460 But yeah, I think my mother would just always had a lot of, she never looked at me like

00:19:42.740 just with like adoration.

00:19:44.500 There was always like judgment.

00:19:46.860 And so I think I always interpreted that like with a woman that there's always some type

00:19:51.480 of judgment.

00:19:52.200 So I'm not enough immediately when I show up or even look at a woman, it's like, even

00:19:56.940 when I look at a woman's eyes, it was like, I'm not enough.

00:19:59.520 So I think that like permeated in me throughout like being young.

00:20:02.600 And so I think it made everything kind of, so then anytime I got close to a woman, everything

00:20:07.120 was uncomfortable.

00:20:07.820 Cause it was like, how can I be this close?

00:20:10.920 And I'm okay.

00:20:11.720 Like, I'm okay to be here.

00:20:13.100 And it's not like, I'm not being like feeling rejected.

00:20:17.340 It's like, I think it made, it made everything super, just a lot of nerves in that space.

00:20:23.100 You know?

00:20:23.720 I get it.

00:20:24.300 I've always felt more of a connection with women because I was raised and surrounded by

00:20:28.840 women.

00:20:29.080 So I've had to deal with like, you know, I've had sisters who fucking come home after

00:20:32.380 getting raped or, you know what I mean?

00:20:34.180 Just like the craziest shit.

00:20:35.700 And I don't know.

00:20:36.880 I just always like, you know, I see my, my mom, I'm like a little boy, you know, like

00:20:41.760 damn near a toddler.

00:20:42.540 She's getting her fucking brains beat out of her.

00:20:44.300 She's all bloody and police come and all this shit.

00:20:46.380 And I'm like, Oh, don't treat a woman like that.

00:20:49.260 You know, my dad's smoking crack and pawn in my fucking PlayStation and shit.

00:20:52.560 Oh, don't treat your child like that.

00:20:54.220 So I saw all these, you know, my brother's running around with guns.

00:20:56.560 Oh, try to, don't do these things.

00:20:58.620 And that's not me shitting on my family.

00:21:00.180 Like, it's just, it is what it is.

00:21:01.940 You know what I mean?

00:21:02.340 And, and a lot of my family's really turned their lives around for the most.

00:21:06.460 I mean, motherfuckers are still in the hood and shit, but it's good.

00:21:08.960 And you know, sometimes motherfuckers will be like, Hey man, like, how come you don't

00:21:12.000 give your money, your family money?

00:21:13.940 And it's like, one, I have, and then it's gone immediately.

00:21:17.920 It's like, I've done that.

00:21:18.640 And then it's like, Oh, I learned my lesson immediately.

00:21:20.320 Cause like you give somebody money, they don't know what to do with it.

00:21:23.820 It's even like, okay, what?

00:21:24.780 I'm gonna buy you a house.

00:21:25.600 And then what?

00:21:25.860 I gotta pay your mortgage for the rest of your life.

00:21:27.740 I got this, I got that.

00:21:28.560 So it's like, you can only give, but so much to, to a person.

00:21:32.000 Cause if somebody gave me a million dollars when I was in the hood at 18, I would just

00:21:37.160 be a Taco Bell every day.

00:21:38.640 Oh, like I would just be like, I don't know.

00:21:41.440 I'd be doing Coke, dude.

00:21:42.860 I'd be trying to eat my own ass, dude.

00:21:45.140 Oh my God.

00:21:46.280 Dude, you do enough drug.

00:21:47.600 You'll try to, you'll get back there.

00:21:49.860 True.

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00:24:17.400 But it's interesting you say that because, yeah, there's some family members of mine that

00:24:20.320 like it's easier to share stuff with or like help them get something if they're trying to

00:24:25.360 get it in their life and I can help like financially.

00:24:27.320 And then there's some where it's like they're not in a space where they're kind of healthy

00:24:31.820 enough in a way where it's like, yeah, you can't, it's tough to, if you give $10,000

00:24:35.840 to somebody who's struggling with addiction, you might never, they may die.

00:24:40.860 No, you can't do it.

00:24:41.620 Yeah.

00:24:41.900 So some of that stuff gets a little bit tricky.

00:24:43.760 My niece, my niece, I'm putting her through college right now.

00:24:46.340 Oh, that's awesome.

00:24:46.860 She's one of the ones that like really broke through and she's doing incredible.

00:24:50.080 Sorry.

00:24:50.300 What were you going to say?

00:24:50.840 Yeah.

00:24:51.080 Um, so, but how were you able to like compartmentalize that stuff and like not get so attached to

00:24:56.140 it?

00:24:56.260 Cause it seems like you're able to like talk about these pretty traumatic times that happen

00:24:59.980 in your life and you don't, but you're able to kind of discuss it in a way that's like,

00:25:05.240 I'm not like, who, fuck.

00:25:06.480 Like, yeah, I think you go through that or you never really, that never really was.

00:25:10.360 I definitely did, but I was never like, I mean, I've had, there's, you know, I've,

00:25:14.800 I've shed some tears over like not having a family, you know what I mean?

00:25:18.380 Things like that, but most of the tears I shed were like having my son and like getting

00:25:23.980 married to a beautiful woman that loves me and like giving me the family I never had.

00:25:29.420 And that shit makes me be like, wow.

00:25:30.780 Like I'll look at my son, like this cute little three-year-old pure soul.

00:25:36.520 And I'm like, damn, I can't believe my parents smacked me around and did, you know, cook crack

00:25:41.780 in front of me.

00:25:42.460 You know, I had drug dealers in the house cooking crack.

00:25:44.940 I'm breathing this shit in.

00:25:46.080 Like I could never imagine that for my son.

00:25:49.160 So it makes me really happy.

00:25:50.720 But I think the biggest way, if I'm being quite honest, how I dealt with my upbringing

00:25:55.080 was through music, through writing.

00:25:56.940 You know what I mean?

00:25:57.740 Cause like a lot of people are scared of therapy or this or that.

00:26:00.940 I've always been, I've been in therapy for 10 years, over 10 years now.

00:26:04.380 And it's, it's helped me a lot and it's given me a lot of tools to break down and better

00:26:09.040 know myself.

00:26:09.580 But before I, you know, sat down with any professional, I had to really look in the mirror

00:26:13.400 and be like, yo, like what matters to you?

00:26:16.040 You know what I mean?

00:26:16.480 What, what do you want?

00:26:17.780 What don't you want?

00:26:18.460 And that's why even with the raps and shit, like I didn't look at it at hip hop and go,

00:26:23.640 oh yeah, I'm a boats and hoes and bitches.

00:26:25.660 And I didn't like, I didn't see it like that.

00:26:27.380 I saw it as a, as a business.

00:26:28.500 And I say with persistence, determination, realism, and wanting success more than your next

00:26:32.120 breath, you could truly fucking attain anything you want.

00:26:34.840 But a big key is realism.

00:26:36.960 So I wasn't like, oh, I want the $20,000 chain and I want the, I was like, I want to

00:26:41.400 create a brand and I want to do it in a way that nobody else is really doing it.

00:26:45.380 And that's why my whole motto is peace, love, positivity.

00:26:47.200 It's about being yourself.

00:26:48.380 And also the craziest shit is bro.

00:26:51.440 Eminem is Eminem, the goat.

00:26:53.140 He's the shit, but he's not the first white rapper.

00:26:56.200 There was so many before, bro.

00:26:57.660 I'm the first black, white, white looking black guy traversing hip hop, like me and J.

00:27:05.140 J. Cole's genetic makeup, the same.

00:27:06.980 Drake's the same.

00:27:08.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:08.340 So many people.

00:27:09.820 So I'm like the first of my kind as well, experiencing this.

00:27:13.860 So when I would be talking about things like emotions and how it's okay to feel this and

00:27:18.940 people are like, shut the fuck up.

00:27:20.200 Like, and I had to like really navigate being comfortable in my skin.

00:27:24.620 And yeah.

00:27:25.280 Yeah.

00:27:25.760 Cause I feel like that's not a universe where if you come with feelings into like a rap

00:27:29.760 battle, it's a, you know, that's not the sword and shield.

00:27:34.800 You want to bring in there.

00:27:35.800 It's changing a little bit though.

00:27:37.100 When you see like a lot of these vert, like a lot of like, um, these like ciphers and verses

00:27:41.620 and stuff you see online, I feel like you, you start to, people get a little bit more

00:27:44.760 emo in there.

00:27:45.900 I guess I don't really give a fuck about that shit.

00:27:48.140 I'm just like, I love music.

00:27:49.620 You know what I mean?

00:27:50.020 Like I used to be about the freestyling and all that shit and like the battles and that's,

00:27:53.700 it's cool.

00:27:54.600 It's cool.

00:27:55.440 But it's a lot of, it's a lot of like, fuck you.

00:27:58.280 I'm great.

00:27:58.880 And all this, which is systemic.

00:28:00.260 Like I still rap like that sometimes.

00:28:01.860 Like I'll have braggadocious shit.

00:28:04.220 Like I actually had a line where I said braggadocious flow.

00:28:06.680 I'm vain like an IV.

00:28:07.880 So it's like, it's just like little things where it's in us.

00:28:11.360 It's systemic.

00:28:12.200 Why am I wearing this?

00:28:13.240 I'm wearing this cause I never had it.

00:28:14.960 My people never had it.

00:28:15.900 So I like it.

00:28:16.840 I got it.

00:28:17.340 What's up?

00:28:17.680 Look at me in a way.

00:28:19.000 Right.

00:28:19.320 It really is like, you know what I mean?

00:28:20.860 I like to think I do it a little more, you know, classic.

00:28:24.860 I'm not, I just try to try not to be too over the top, but if a motherfucker wants to

00:28:27.740 be over the top, good.

00:28:28.700 He never had it.

00:28:29.540 And if that's what he wants to do, but I would rather sleep in my money.

00:28:35.300 You know, I'd rather sleep in a $5 million house in Malibu.

00:28:38.120 I'd rather have you a nice home or something.

00:28:40.100 Yeah.

00:28:40.340 A waffle maker, get you a damn Ottoman dude.

00:28:43.640 I remember when I got a fucking Ottoman cuz God damn, bro.

00:28:47.500 Changes the game.

00:28:47.960 It does do.

00:28:48.420 When I sat on the couch and then my feet sat on the couch, touchdown, dude.

00:28:53.580 I thought I was going to damn heaven, bro.

00:28:55.440 It's pretty amazing.

00:28:56.460 I would have taken my own life right there if I could have just to stay comfortable forever.

00:29:01.120 I got a number you could call.

00:29:02.620 I know, dude.

00:29:03.760 I heard about that, man.

00:29:06.120 Sorry.

00:29:06.520 Our conversation has been all over a little bit, but it's cool, bro.

00:29:08.760 I'm trying to, I'm trying to.

00:29:09.620 I like it.

00:29:10.100 It feels like we're just like, I'm just chilling with, with a friend.

00:29:13.680 So speaking of which you went to like five fucking colleges.

00:29:15.960 What's up with that?

00:29:16.980 Yeah, man.

00:29:17.420 And I think I didn't know what I wanted to do and I got into comedy and it, like comedy

00:29:22.780 was this kind of thing.

00:29:23.560 You didn't have to commit to anything.

00:29:25.520 You know, I always had a lot of trouble committing to stuff.

00:29:29.720 And so comedy kind of made it where you didn't have to commit.

00:29:33.020 I think I didn't want to commit to a college.

00:29:35.420 I just, I don't know.

00:29:36.680 I had big like commitment issues.

00:29:38.700 I think out of the gate in the world, I didn't like kind of my environment so much that I

00:29:42.280 just didn't, I was never going to let anything kind of place me or pigeonhole me or even if

00:29:50.860 it was a school, you know, it was like, I want to do my own thing, you know?

00:29:56.080 I think that's dope.

00:29:57.300 I mean, I feel like also, if I, personally, I feel that your 20s, like to like 26, 27,

00:30:04.760 that's the time to just fuck your life up if you're going to do it.

00:30:07.780 Like following a dream.

00:30:08.840 Yeah.

00:30:09.340 Like let it go.

00:30:10.000 Because by the time you're 26, 27, you're like, all right, fuck it.

00:30:12.080 I'll put this tie on and go to this job for the rest of my life.

00:30:14.580 Yeah, you know, whatever.

00:30:16.300 But it's like, I feel like-

00:30:17.380 Enterprise rental.

00:30:18.600 Do whatever you're going to, whatever your ambition is, do it now.

00:30:22.500 Do it right now while you still can because you don't want to look back, you know, full

00:30:27.680 of regret.

00:30:28.240 I say that a lot to people.

00:30:29.180 You could even, and I know this is maybe frowned upon or whatever, you could kill somebody.

00:30:35.320 A lot of people are doing seven-

00:30:36.300 I would say that's frowned upon.

00:30:37.500 Well, a lot of people are doing seven years now.

00:30:39.240 Oh, for a murder?

00:30:40.400 Yeah.

00:30:41.080 So I'm like, dude, if there's somebody that we really don't need, I mean, ask some other

00:30:44.300 people.

00:30:44.660 Don't just fucking pick somebody in your area.

00:30:46.820 Yeah.

00:30:47.200 But, you know, get a small consensus.

00:30:49.560 And look, dog, if you think it's going to help humanity, bro, you only, you know, people

00:30:53.220 are doing seven years.

00:30:54.220 Wait a second.

00:30:54.600 How did we just go from following your dreams to murdering people and only getting seven

00:30:59.400 years?

00:31:00.240 It's rap music, dude.

00:31:01.220 That's what it is, bro.

00:31:02.900 Well, actually, one thing I did want to also ask, because we were talking about emotions

00:31:05.680 and shit.

00:31:06.760 So as a comic, you know, as a fucking genius comedian, which you are, you know, you're so quick,

00:31:13.020 you're witty, you're on your shit.

00:31:14.300 Has there ever been a time where you were like going back and forth with another comedian

00:31:20.800 and they actually, and this is, it's not a two part question, but more of a description.

00:31:25.640 And they actually like fucking like legitimately hurt your feelings or is it more so like, fuck,

00:31:31.840 I've been bested in this comedic duel or both?

00:31:35.560 That's a good question, man.

00:31:36.860 I think I've been bested in a comedic duel for sure by like guys like, you know, I'll

00:31:40.880 be, I'll get around like Shane Gillis sometimes and just who he is makes me laugh or if I'm

00:31:46.660 having like a rough day.

00:31:48.100 Fuck, one day I'd been eating, I went on a new diet where you didn't eat any calories

00:31:53.340 or something for like a week.

00:31:55.100 So I could barely even breathe, you know, like I couldn't even open my eyes that good.

00:31:59.120 And I had to do an episode with this kid, Bryce Mitchell.

00:32:01.900 Right.

00:32:02.620 And he seemed like this, like, I thought he was like a wizard, you know, and he's like

00:32:07.480 a UFC guy.

00:32:08.560 Like he's a very interesting dude.

00:32:10.260 I don't think people would say he's a wizard though.

00:32:11.880 And he's, I would like had no energy.

00:32:14.520 So I was like, I felt pretty bested that day.

00:32:17.360 I think sometimes there's times where you get with comedy.

00:32:21.360 I think it's good with podcasting because you can do the conversations again.

00:32:25.320 I would, uh, but I think doing something like rapping, that kind of thing feels really

00:32:32.240 scary because people judge bars of raps and stuff all the time.

00:32:35.500 Yeah.

00:32:35.760 They don't do that with comedy.

00:32:37.260 Nobody's like, Oh dude, Larry had some shit bars over here.

00:32:40.260 You know, you know, it's like, they're not doing that.

00:32:43.060 So, uh, they might say when somebody has a couple of good jokes, but, um, that would

00:32:49.640 be scary to me to be like, okay, I'm going to rest on these lines and put them out.

00:32:52.960 Has there been something you put out where you're like, cause I put out some specials

00:32:57.280 where I'm like, I know that the recording that night wasn't the best.

00:32:59.820 I know that like, after the audio came out, I'm like these people I was working with

00:33:04.220 didn't do, didn't capture it the best.

00:33:06.160 I know that I probably could have been in a better position and taking care of myself

00:33:09.960 better the weeks leading up to it.

00:33:11.360 So I was putting out something as good as I could.

00:33:14.640 Um, but with your work, you got to feel like you get a chance to be like, okay, this is

00:33:21.960 it.

00:33:22.160 Is there ever a point where you like started something and by the end you were like,

00:33:24.920 fuck, but I still got to put it out.

00:33:27.400 No, I would never put out something if I like wasn't behind it.

00:33:31.620 Like if I wasn't behind it, even if it's like some fun shit or cause that, that, that was

00:33:35.480 one thing that was really tough to navigate through this last decade because, uh, I, you

00:33:40.320 know, I'm known as a fucking lyricist.

00:33:41.820 Like I rap, you know, but I've also broken out of that box and made pop music.

00:33:45.420 I've made trap music.

00:33:47.040 I've sang, I've done indie records.

00:33:48.960 I've done all types of stuff because I just, that's me.

00:33:51.160 I want to do different shit.

00:33:52.260 You know, it's like, you've acted, you're, you have a podcast, you're so much more than

00:33:56.040 just, uh, you know, uh, just a comedian, quote unquote, like, you know, and, um, that's how

00:34:01.480 I felt about myself.

00:34:02.340 So the, the hardest thing was, was navigating like people, what other people thought and

00:34:06.780 what other people said, because I did care and because I wanted to be accepted so much.

00:34:10.980 Like I literally, it was so obvious and apparent, but that's because I love hip hop and it's a

00:34:16.420 beautiful space.

00:34:17.060 But the thing is, is I was always accepted by the greats, the people in this, you know,

00:34:22.020 industry, whether it's Wu-Tang Clan, Nas, like so many people that I've come into contact,

00:34:26.900 Q-Tip, you know, RZA.

00:34:28.300 I mean, you've worked with all of them.

00:34:29.980 Yeah.

00:34:30.400 And they give me my flowers and it's really amazing.

00:34:32.400 But for so long, I was so focused on like, well, I want to be accepted by, I don't know,

00:34:36.880 like the tastemaker or somebody with a fucking podcast.

00:34:39.860 Yeah.

00:34:40.120 It's like, fuck them and their podcast.

00:34:41.440 I rap.

00:34:42.280 Right.

00:34:43.240 And, and when I.

00:34:44.160 Or any fucktard, any fucktard in a Honda Accord with fucking loud pipes on that bitch,

00:34:49.900 dude.

00:34:50.420 It's like, ah, fuck.

00:34:51.460 Is that guy like me?

00:34:52.960 You know?

00:34:53.220 No, but that's a real thing though.

00:34:54.480 That's what I'm saying.

00:34:55.140 That's a real thing.

00:34:55.960 That would be like, that's the dude.

00:34:57.360 It's like, instead of really, if, if, you know, if the greats are giving you your rewards,

00:35:02.260 but I'm still listening to this motherfuckers driving by and he's listening to Nelly still,

00:35:07.060 I'd be like, fuck dude, I got, I'm missing somebody.

00:35:09.400 I'm missing a bandaid.

00:35:09.880 You know, I love Nelly, but I'm just saying, yeah, it's like, I'm missing something.

00:35:12.520 You know, it's like.

00:35:12.980 No, I get it.

00:35:13.240 I think having my son, do you have children?

00:35:17.200 Having my son really totally opened my eyes about how much shit doesn't fucking matter.

00:35:22.640 Like my son, this thing that came out of my nuts is healthy and happy.

00:35:27.300 So Joe Schmo talking shit about me, like who gives a fuck?

00:35:30.280 Also, it's like, I'm rich and I'm famous and you're talking about me.

00:35:35.140 Like, good job.

00:35:36.180 Like, bro, you did it.

00:35:37.000 Like mission accomplished.

00:35:37.760 You met the green lizard alligator at the end of the fucking game.

00:35:41.960 Like you did it.

00:35:42.800 And so for me, that realization, and this is just in the last few years,

00:35:47.060 because my biggest thing was I used to be so upset that it hurt when people would say mean things about me,

00:35:55.020 which they do on the internet all the time.

00:35:56.240 I mean, it's crazy shit.

00:35:56.940 I hope your baby dies.

00:35:57.800 Your wife's ugly.

00:35:58.580 And when you see that every day, every day, all these different things,

00:36:01.760 just people that shit that people spew out, it can fucking affect you.

00:36:04.860 And so I used to be so angry, like, fuck, like, why does this hurt?

00:36:09.060 Why does this hurt?

00:36:09.840 And then I realized it's like, bro, it hurts because you're a human being and you have emotions.

00:36:13.180 And when I stopped being so hard on myself and I was like, bro, it's okay that it hurts.

00:36:18.280 What you're in control of is how long will you let that affect you and how much will you let it affect you?

00:36:23.640 And now if I see some shit, if I subject myself to being on the internet and I see some shit,

00:36:27.920 I just kind of just like, hmm, fuck this guy.

00:36:29.780 And that's it.

00:36:30.720 And it's pretty cool.

00:36:31.820 But it used to keep me up.

00:36:33.080 So what helps you turn there?

00:36:34.560 Because that's really some AA type stuff.

00:36:36.200 It's like, you know, if I sit there and read something about it and I start to feel a certain way,

00:36:40.200 that's normal.

00:36:41.020 That kind of can happen.

00:36:41.800 But if I sit there and continue to feel that way, then I'm doing that to myself at a certain point.

00:36:46.060 I don't realize it.

00:36:47.500 That thing is the instigator.

00:36:48.760 But if I'm sitting there and still thinking about it, then that's a choice that I'm making really at a certain point.

00:36:53.460 Or still going through it.

00:36:55.420 Right.

00:36:55.840 Because I used to.

00:36:56.460 Isn't that crazy, bro?

00:36:57.360 I used to go and people would be like, oh, you're amazing.

00:37:00.960 I love your comedy.

00:37:02.060 I love your albums.

00:37:04.160 And it's just so much love.

00:37:05.260 I love you.

00:37:05.640 I love you.

00:37:06.040 But then we look and it's like, you fucking suck.

00:37:08.560 And you're just like, oh my God.

00:37:09.560 And you looked at the guy and you look at him and he's fucking 14.

00:37:12.160 He plays Xbox.

00:37:12.840 He's a cunt.

00:37:14.260 And you're like, this whole thing.

00:37:16.960 When deep down, it doesn't matter.

00:37:18.700 Why are we doing this to ourselves?

00:37:19.500 But I think a big part of it is what it means to be human and adaptation.

00:37:24.540 So when you think about us fucking on an African plane thousands of years ago.

00:37:30.200 Oh, yeah.

00:37:30.500 Like Big Buck Hunter?

00:37:31.800 Type shit.

00:37:32.760 Type beat.

00:37:33.440 And when we walk out of the brush, nobody's going, wow.

00:37:39.100 Look at these beautiful clouds.

00:37:41.020 Look at this sky.

00:37:41.580 No, you're looking for lions immediately.

00:37:44.140 And so I think that's what we do on today.

00:37:46.880 Fast forward.

00:37:47.760 We're looking for where's the threat?

00:37:49.280 Where's the threat?

00:37:51.360 And now I'm just kind of like, man, I honestly don't know why the fuck I cared so much for

00:37:57.840 so long.

00:37:58.440 You know what I mean?

00:37:58.980 Well, it would make sense.

00:37:59.860 I feel like you cared if you're looking for, I mean, I feel like especially as children,

00:38:03.880 especially growing up, you're probably looking for adoration.

00:38:08.080 Everybody wants to be seen or accepted.

00:38:10.960 Yeah.

00:38:11.360 I don't know.

00:38:12.140 You seem to have adapted pretty well.

00:38:15.000 Yeah.

00:38:15.540 Yeah.

00:38:15.840 It's not like it was ever terrible.

00:38:17.080 But there was just times when it was.

00:38:19.840 And the reason I love to discuss things whenever I, such as this, whenever we kind of reach

00:38:24.920 the subject for people out there is it's like, bro, you're not alone.

00:38:28.100 Like it's a real thing.

00:38:28.620 Not to sound cliche, but like everybody goes through shit.

00:38:31.360 Everybody, you go on the internet, you get to fight with some asshole.

00:38:33.580 It can affect you.

00:38:36.380 And just the sheer amount of shit that we see and process mentally daily, like I don't

00:38:41.180 think humans are even supposed to be doing that.

00:38:43.300 Yeah.

00:38:43.560 Like think if it's like 1950, you know, and little Mary Jane, like this bitch didn't have

00:38:50.600 Twitter and just see all this shit with all these girls half naked by fucking 13 being

00:38:55.400 over-sexualized.

00:38:56.420 And she's like, well, I need to change myself.

00:38:58.520 And I need all, like that shit didn't exist.

00:39:00.100 Well, that's, you know, I wonder a lot of times I think, you know, and I've jerked off

00:39:06.100 recently.

00:39:06.480 I'm going to be honest with everybody, but I think that a lot of times we've exhausted

00:39:10.680 our sexuality.

00:39:11.980 So like, you know, I feel like you're, you're even maybe even through a DNA strain, you're

00:39:17.100 only supposed to see so much cooter and everything over time and ass or whatever.

00:39:21.000 I actually agree with that.

00:39:22.080 Oh, so it's crazy that now you're having children.

00:39:24.040 I think that have no sex because you fucking, you, you know, Ronnie, the daddy or whatever spewed

00:39:29.540 it all out, dude.

00:39:30.280 That's why fucking Ernie is just sitting in the yard, fucking licking rocks and scrolling

00:39:36.340 on TikTok because he can't even, he don't even have anything left in him.

00:39:40.620 You know, it's like, it's weird.

00:39:42.120 Like whenever we created digital media, it's like, we burned it out all out of us.

00:39:45.880 I think there's a lot of men out there who are gay, not even because they want to be.

00:39:50.280 It's because they, all the straightness got jerked out of them over time by looking at

00:39:55.360 pornography.

00:39:56.060 Wait, what?

00:39:56.800 Yeah.

00:39:57.660 Think about pornography, bro.

00:39:59.080 It goes on a regular saying.

00:40:00.040 Bro, if somebody wants to be fucking gay, they're just gay.

00:40:02.960 Oh, well, some people are, but some people-

00:40:05.140 You're saying some people, their predecessors have just, just busted so many nuts that they-

00:40:10.920 Or even them.

00:40:11.580 But there's a difference.

00:40:12.540 Wait, no, but it's like, then what you're talking about is more so celibacy rather than

00:40:16.700 a sexual orientation.

00:40:18.700 I don't know, man.

00:40:19.700 I think we don't know the long-term effects of some of this pornography.

00:40:22.700 Think about it, dude.

00:40:23.340 Like, when you're saying back in the day, you go to maybe the store and you see a woman

00:40:27.200 pick up a melon or something, and you go jerk off in the truck.

00:40:30.040 And you think about it.

00:40:30.980 Oh, that was insane.

00:40:32.100 Every time you fucking see an avocado salad, you fucking got to hide in the outhouse.

00:40:38.200 When I was a kid, I used to fucking watch anime, and I'd just be in my head thinking

00:40:41.700 about like this anime bitch with big ass tits, and I'm like 12 years old.

00:40:44.680 Oh, yeah, bro.

00:40:45.460 Because I didn't have anything.

00:40:46.480 I didn't have fucking porn.

00:40:47.180 I didn't have fucking internet.

00:40:48.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:48.620 I was busting nuts to fucking pencil drawings.

00:40:52.000 Damn, dude.

00:40:52.980 It was a vibe, though.

00:40:53.940 I remember one time I busted so many nuts.

00:40:55.920 The first time I ever busted a nut.

00:40:57.820 Oh, yeah.

00:40:58.240 Take a sec.

00:40:58.660 I busted like 13 nuts.

00:41:01.100 I was like 12 years old, and I'm shooting ghost loads.

00:41:03.780 Daytime or nighttime?

00:41:05.300 Night.

00:41:05.780 All night.

00:41:06.820 Literally, it was the first time.

00:41:08.420 Because, you know, it's like my dick would get hard, this or that.

00:41:10.340 I'm like 12, bro.

00:41:11.940 But like, you know.

00:41:14.060 My neck would get hard when my dick would get hard a lot.

00:41:16.160 You like Batman?

00:41:16.780 Yeah, I was like I'm on the Gravitron at the fair or whatever.

00:41:22.140 The fucking UFO.

00:41:23.540 Literally, I would, you know, I just had never busted a nut.

00:41:26.800 And then you bust that first nut, and it like opens your mind.

00:41:31.100 You're like, oh, my God.

00:41:33.020 So I jerked off all night, and then my dick was like all fat.

00:41:38.300 Oh, it hurts.

00:41:39.040 It hurt.

00:41:39.640 And I went to school the next day, and it was like I was walking weird.

00:41:42.580 And then I came home, and I was like, man.

00:41:44.740 I talked to my friend.

00:41:45.440 I was like, yo, I think my dick's fucked up.

00:41:46.680 Can you look at it?

00:41:47.300 He's like, what?

00:41:47.860 You want me to look at your dick?

00:41:49.260 And I was like, yeah, man.

00:41:50.080 It's all good.

00:41:50.740 Dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

00:41:52.300 You do it so much, you end up in a gay instance.

00:41:55.880 What can I say?

00:41:57.240 What can I say?

00:41:58.060 But no, it was hilarious.

00:41:59.480 He was like, yeah, your shit's fucked up.

00:42:00.600 You need to chill.

00:42:01.600 So I was like, okay.

00:42:02.340 What?

00:42:02.400 He just told you that?

00:42:03.460 Yeah, he was just like, yeah, that's not normal, man.

00:42:05.240 Yeah.

00:42:05.880 God, yeah.

00:42:06.760 I remember getting so much ointment, and I would pack it around my wiener because it would like,

00:42:11.280 I just exhausted its use so much.

00:42:13.720 And I would get like all that Neosporin or whatever.

00:42:15.600 Are you being serious?

00:42:16.300 Oh, 100%.

00:42:16.960 And I would put it all around it because it would hurt, you know?

00:42:21.220 I mean, Louis C.K. was on here, and we talked about that, about imagine if you had a friend

00:42:26.060 that was your wiener, and you just kept fucking pack.

00:42:28.100 Every time he was around, you just kept fucking shaking him around until he spit up all over.

00:42:31.680 Ew.

00:42:32.140 And then he did it, and then everybody's like, let him rest, let him rest.

00:42:35.560 And you're like, nah, fucking get him back up.

00:42:37.040 Oh, my God.

00:42:38.180 How many nuts have you busted in a day?

00:42:39.960 Oh, not that many.

00:42:41.080 I'm more of a long, I'm more of like a-

00:42:44.460 Like draw it out, edge?

00:42:46.380 I wouldn't even call it edging.

00:42:47.660 I would just call it very lazy, kind of archaic nuts, you know?

00:42:51.740 Archaic nuts?

00:42:52.640 I think maybe four.

00:42:54.900 Oh, man, I got you beat.

00:42:56.840 Yeah, good.

00:42:58.740 I can't handle it.

00:43:00.320 I mean, I was just really young.

00:43:02.020 It bums me out.

00:43:02.960 If I do it a little bit, it bums me out.

00:43:04.920 You know what I'm over?

00:43:05.700 Porn.

00:43:06.860 I'm so over it.

00:43:07.900 Well, it's horrible.

00:43:08.280 They said this, actually.

00:43:10.160 Seven states pushed to require ID for watching porn online.

00:43:12.980 Louisiana just did this, and I think this is one of the best things

00:43:15.500 that's ever been done.

00:43:16.380 For sure.

00:43:17.040 Because, dude, I really do think, Logic, that this has ruined

00:43:21.420 a lot of relationships.

00:43:22.540 It's like, it used to be a woman was where any fantasy you had

00:43:26.800 was directed towards your spouse, towards your wife.

00:43:30.420 And then now, those fantasies are all exalted.

00:43:35.440 That person can't even compete with the digitality of all this pornography.

00:43:41.900 Yeah.

00:43:42.260 What does that article say?

00:43:43.100 I'm sorry, Zach.

00:43:44.620 Gotta love Zach.

00:43:45.440 I love Zach.

00:43:46.340 Thanks, bro.

00:43:47.240 He's good, man.

00:43:48.080 And I've never told him that, so I'm glad.

00:43:49.620 I'm actually glad someone said that.

00:43:51.060 No, he's great.

00:43:52.000 Finally.

00:43:52.680 He is.

00:43:53.400 After decades of, can we zoom in a little bit?

00:43:55.420 After decades of fretting over minors potentially being overexposed to pornography online,

00:44:00.520 several states are suddenly moving fast in 2023 to attempt to keep kids off porn sites

00:44:05.120 by passing laws requiring age verification.

00:44:07.460 No, but that's real.

00:44:08.180 I mean, have you ever seen those funny TikToks or things where it's literally eighth grade

00:44:12.360 and the band's playing at lunch, and then they'll stop, and then the kid does the porn

00:44:17.040 hub drum thing as a joke, and then all the kids laugh because they know?

00:44:22.160 It's fucking deep, man, because I remember the first time I was exposed to pornography,

00:44:26.680 I was like five years old.

00:44:28.060 No.

00:44:28.500 Yeah, but it was print.

00:44:30.180 That's how old I am.

00:44:31.300 It was print.

00:44:32.120 Yeah, same.

00:44:32.900 It was print magazine, but I just didn't understand.

00:44:34.660 I remember going up to my mother, and once again, she's a huge ... I'm not shitting on

00:44:38.320 her here, but I'm just being honest.

00:44:39.460 She's a fucking hypocrite because I was like, what's sex?

00:44:43.760 I was five years old, and I asked her, and she was like, that's sex, and I'm like,

00:44:48.340 what the fuck?

00:44:48.960 No, she did that.

00:44:49.520 She did this.

00:44:50.200 She just went like that, and I was like, oh, shit, so then I went to my homies.

00:44:52.880 I was like, yo, check it out.

00:44:53.960 I'm having sex right now, and I'm telling all my friends and shit.

00:44:57.140 They're like, what the fuck?

00:44:59.200 But yeah, I mean, that's not that bad, seeing a little nudie magazine when you're grown.

00:45:05.940 No.

00:45:06.080 You're grown up, but now it's fucking deep, man.

00:45:08.680 I remember one of the first times I was on the internet watching, like 2006, 2007, where

00:45:16.780 I didn't even know where to go, and I'm in Yahoo, just typing shit, and some chick's going

00:45:21.720 down on this guy, and then she pukes all over his dick, and I'm scarred, and I'm like, oh

00:45:26.060 my God.

00:45:27.120 That is some shit people don't need to be exposed to.

00:45:29.180 It's like a golden corral advertisement.

00:45:30.360 I know, and now that's my fetish.

00:45:31.920 No, I'm just kidding.

00:45:33.220 But it's like, it's just a weird thing.

00:45:35.860 Yeah, it's overexposure, man.

00:45:37.280 Well, it's crazy, but the harm it does to us, I think that's the things we don't know.

00:45:41.200 It's like that harm.

00:45:42.120 It used to be you would take all those feelings, and you'd put them to work.

00:45:44.860 Every time you saw your spouse, you would fantasize about them.

00:45:47.720 And if you're open, if you're open, you're like, hey, what's up?

00:45:50.060 You're trying to wear this maid outfit, and pretend X, Y, Z.

00:45:53.880 It's just to have those fantasies, you know?

00:45:56.080 And my wife, she's super open.

00:45:57.900 Her fucking dad's probably watching this right now, so I'm not going to get too deep.

00:46:00.360 But if you know what I mean.

00:46:02.460 But no, she's, my wife, man, she's incredible, you know what I mean?

00:46:07.060 She really satisfies me.

00:46:08.580 And that's another thing when I think, like, all through my 20s, I was just, like, jerking

00:46:11.720 off watching porn just because it was just kind of a thing to do.

00:46:14.340 Not a lot, not crazy.

00:46:15.420 Like, I never had an addiction, nothing like that, you know?

00:46:17.800 And I've known some dudes who have and have beaten that, which I think is great.

00:46:22.380 But I'm just like, for what?

00:46:23.900 I kind of, I'm almost, like, seeing it, like, seeing it all, and now I want to just,

00:46:27.540 like, not anymore and just focus on my personal sexual relationship with my wife.

00:46:32.960 Not that I'm not or haven't, but just to even more.

00:46:35.880 I think porn has been so normalized in a way, which is not, it's like, as an adult, like,

00:46:45.020 to each their own, you know what I mean?

00:46:46.260 But I just think this shit about making sure that minors aren't really so exposed to it,

00:46:51.280 I think it is important.

00:46:52.820 But also, somebody's, it's almost like guns, you know?

00:46:57.180 Sure, you can have all the gun laws you want, X, Y, Z.

00:47:00.360 I wonder what the comments are looking like right now.

00:47:02.400 Anyway, you could have all these gun laws, whatever.

00:47:04.560 But at the fucking end of the day, bro, if somebody really, really wants to fucking get

00:47:07.700 a gun and kill somebody, they're going to do it.

00:47:09.160 And they can even make a gun.

00:47:10.960 3D print a fucking gun.

00:47:11.860 But that's how I feel kind of about, like, porn, where it's like, if an underage, you

00:47:16.420 know, teenager who's older wants to see that, they're going to find a way to do it.

00:47:22.180 But if you make it more difficult, then I think you're exposing less people to something

00:47:26.860 that can essentially traumatize them.

00:47:28.820 You know, you ever heard of that show, Euphoria?

00:47:31.220 I met someone from it one time at a party.

00:47:33.840 Well, they really talk about, in an incredible way, how porn has just fucked with the youth,

00:47:45.800 thinking like, yeah, bitch, take this dick.

00:47:47.860 Like, oh, and it's like, that's really, I mean, it's a time and place, you know what

00:47:50.840 I'm saying?

00:47:51.200 It's a time and place for that.

00:47:52.040 Oh, yeah, there's definitely evening.

00:47:53.060 But, you know, like, your first time.

00:47:56.920 Yeah, you can't be like that.

00:47:57.900 And then a girl thinks like all this crazy.

00:47:59.580 And then here's the crazy part.

00:48:00.760 You're not even connecting with the other person at all.

00:48:03.120 Now you're almost performing actions that you've seen.

00:48:07.560 So then it's like the human connection, it's totally gone.

00:48:11.040 It's like, we're almost, it's become weird because with porn, you're almost start to,

00:48:15.720 and with everything digital, you almost start to impersonate what you've seen.

00:48:19.960 So now we've taken art in all forms, and some people will consider porn art and that's fine.

00:48:25.800 We've taken art, we've made art, and now we're watching the art we've made and reenacting

00:48:30.600 the art.

00:48:30.960 But we don't, it's like we're, we're done.

00:48:35.380 Yeah.

00:48:35.640 All I know is like my first time having sex, I was like fucking Titanic.

00:48:39.400 Wow.

00:48:39.780 Really?

00:48:40.120 Yeah.

00:48:40.260 I was like, I love you.

00:48:41.640 Oh my God.

00:48:42.600 Well, also I never experienced true love, like love.

00:48:45.720 Like I, I, I, I, I don't really believe like, like I love my mom and my dad, but like, not

00:48:52.420 like I love my son, not like I love my wife.

00:48:54.680 You know what I mean?

00:48:55.240 It sounds like that was a big change to you.

00:48:56.760 Like once you had a family, it kind of, cause sometimes you hear that a family will solve

00:49:01.200 a lot of those old like wounds because you suddenly have a thing that it's not about

00:49:05.960 this behind you anymore.

00:49:07.040 It's obviously about in front of you.

00:49:08.800 Yeah.

00:49:09.200 And when you're loving your son, you kind of replenish that thing that you didn't get in

00:49:12.840 a weird way.

00:49:13.500 It's like.

00:49:13.840 No, not even in a weird way.

00:49:15.360 Wow.

00:49:15.640 That is it.

00:49:16.320 That is it.

00:49:16.880 And that's what's so crazy.

00:49:18.000 Like just the fact.

00:49:18.760 Did you know it was going to be like that?

00:49:20.220 Um, no.

00:49:20.700 Like, were you scared to get into a marriage?

00:49:22.260 Were you scared to have a child?

00:49:23.520 Like those are things that have always been fearful to me.

00:49:24.020 Well, I wasn't scared to get into a marriage this time.

00:49:25.680 Cause I got it right the second time.

00:49:27.060 Oh, you did a first marriage?

00:49:28.040 Yeah, I did a first marriage.

00:49:29.080 Wow.

00:49:29.460 That was hard.

00:49:30.360 Um, and that was just, it just wasn't my person.

00:49:33.220 There was no, there was no like no, uh, infidelity, no this, no that.

00:49:37.480 It's just, and respectfully, like I won't really get into it because that isn't my story

00:49:42.960 to tell.

00:49:43.340 And that's a story that I would happily tell you, you know, if you over dinner or hanging out

00:49:47.420 or whatever, but publicly it's just, just wasn't my person.

00:49:50.700 It wasn't right.

00:49:51.380 So when I found my wife now, Brittany, it was just like, Oh my God.

00:49:55.880 Like she, and she got it.

00:49:57.000 The wildest shit.

00:49:57.780 I felt like Leo.

00:49:58.560 Like I've found the bitch when she was 19.

00:50:00.340 Oh yeah.

00:50:01.020 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:01.980 It's all the way.

00:50:02.280 And Jerry Leo Lewis, dude.

00:50:03.700 Bring up Jerry Lee Lewis.

00:50:05.220 He was a pedophile, but he was respected.

00:50:06.940 Oh shit.

00:50:07.180 What?

00:50:07.460 I ain't, that's not what I, what the fuck you talking about?

00:50:10.380 You're not that dude.

00:50:11.200 You're a musician.

00:50:11.820 Yeah, cheer, cheer, cheer.

00:50:12.880 But I'm just saying he was, uh, he married like a damn 12 year old.

00:50:16.920 Oh no, he didn't.

00:50:18.140 Really?

00:50:18.560 Yeah.

00:50:19.060 Jerry Lee Lewis, boy.

00:50:20.020 What the fuck?

00:50:21.300 I mean, that kid is.

00:50:23.400 Well, that wasn't me anyway.

00:50:24.720 No, you have a great wife.

00:50:25.580 No, yeah.

00:50:25.880 Did your wife just do a cameo in your new video?

00:50:28.160 Yeah.

00:50:28.480 I had a video where she popped in.

00:50:29.860 I thought that was her, man.

00:50:31.240 I watched.

00:50:31.700 It was cool.

00:50:32.360 It's fun, bro.

00:50:33.120 That's a nice anthem.

00:50:34.360 Thank you.

00:50:34.880 It's been, uh, it's been fun.

00:50:37.880 Um, just being a dad and being a husband.

00:50:41.220 And I also, that's one thing that I love about getting older, especially in hip hop, because

00:50:44.900 hip hop is such a young genre.

00:50:46.720 It turns 50 this year.

00:50:47.580 And, um, for me, I love talking about being a father.

00:50:53.960 I love talking about aging, you know, because hip hop and what pop music in general, it's

00:50:58.920 all about like just young, young, young, young, young, literally like 17, 18, 19, 20, like

00:51:03.140 all this shit.

00:51:03.600 But it's like, bro, I'm fucking 33, man.

00:51:05.060 You know what I mean?

00:51:05.440 I'd be getting hemorrhoids and shit.

00:51:06.920 Like, I want to talk about like, I want to talk about real stuff, you know, what it means

00:51:11.260 to invest your money and be smart with things, which your average kid's like, I don't give

00:51:15.340 a fuck.

00:51:15.600 Let's blow the money.

00:51:16.360 Let's go to Vegas, baby.

00:51:17.640 But it's just like, man, I've done that and I've had that and that's cool.

00:51:20.900 But like, it's, I just love this stage of where I am.

00:51:24.040 And you talk about looking forward.

00:51:25.100 And in many ways, I definitely do look forward.

00:51:27.020 But so much of my career, bro, you know, 10 years ago, it was always, I could never be

00:51:33.580 present because I was just like, oh, fuck, I'm broke.

00:51:36.220 Like, I'm, my roaches have fleas.

00:51:38.120 Fuck.

00:51:38.500 Like, I have nothing.

00:51:39.440 Like, you know what I mean?

00:51:40.060 Like, and so I wanted something.

00:51:41.720 I wanted something.

00:51:42.720 And so once you got a little more comfortable, it made things easier.

00:51:46.220 Yeah, but I'm still thinking about the future because it's like, and this is when I started

00:51:49.640 to get therapy because we got to understand, bro.

00:51:51.700 I remember, you know, I did, I did a deal one year.

00:51:54.720 I made $30 million.

00:51:55.900 Wow.

00:51:56.240 I fucking, I had the biggest panic attack on my basketball court.

00:51:59.460 Flex.

00:51:59.960 Really?

00:52:00.560 Yeah, because I was like, bro, I was so poor my whole life.

00:52:02.760 EBT, man.

00:52:03.620 I fucking ate cereal with powdered milk, bro.

00:52:05.920 Okay?

00:52:06.260 Like, I didn't have anything.

00:52:07.680 Like, I had nothing.

00:52:08.660 I never had shit.

00:52:09.780 Wow.

00:52:09.980 So then when I finally got it, I like fucking freaked out about it.

00:52:13.080 And then I started going to therapy and I was like, what do I do?

00:52:16.340 What if I lose my money?

00:52:17.560 And the bitch laughed at me.

00:52:18.840 I call her the bitch.

00:52:19.620 She's my therapist.

00:52:20.400 She's amazing.

00:52:21.080 She's, she's Australian.

00:52:22.060 She could be a down-ass bitch as well.

00:52:23.260 She is a down-ass bitch.

00:52:23.920 No, but she's extra down because the bitch is Australian.

00:52:26.380 So she's down under.

00:52:27.160 Oh, yeah.

00:52:27.960 You know what I'm saying?

00:52:28.880 Anyway.

00:52:30.500 So she said, she was like, she was like, first of all, you're not going to lose your money.

00:52:35.500 You're not a fucking idiot.

00:52:36.500 She's like, look at you.

00:52:37.180 You're making proper investments.

00:52:38.380 You're, you're, you know, you're taking care of yourself.

00:52:39.980 She said, but if you did, what would you do?

00:52:44.100 And I was like, I'd fucking grind my ass.

00:52:46.240 And she's like, exactly.

00:52:47.000 You get it back.

00:52:47.580 So number one.

00:52:49.380 And I remember this is at a time when, um, I was like going through a lot mentally,

00:52:53.660 like a lot.

00:52:54.580 Cause I had the fucking 1-800 song out.

00:52:56.480 You know what I mean?

00:52:56.900 It's like the biggest thing in the world.

00:52:58.160 And everywhere I go, it's like suicide.

00:52:59.680 And people were like, I tried to kill myself.

00:53:01.300 And my brother tried to kill himself.

00:53:02.840 And my sister killed herself.

00:53:04.200 And just everywhere I'm going, it's like all this shit.

00:53:06.500 And I'm like.

00:53:06.760 Right.

00:53:06.900 And for people to know, there was a song that, uh, anthem that he did that was, uh, about

00:53:10.360 suicide prevention.

00:53:11.700 And just, uh, about, uh, kind of loving yourself a little bit of evolution.

00:53:15.620 Mental health.

00:53:15.900 Yeah.

00:53:16.060 Yeah.

00:53:16.220 Mental health.

00:53:16.720 So go on.

00:53:17.480 So, yeah.

00:53:17.880 So dealing with all that was like a lot.

00:53:21.120 Um, but for me, like I had turned down a million dollar show in Australia and I've always

00:53:27.940 wanted to go to Australia and it was literally, it was a festival and I was going to headline

00:53:31.560 the festival.

00:53:32.240 Bro, 45 minutes, a million dollars.

00:53:33.920 Wow.

00:53:34.320 And I turned it down and people could be like, oh, you're fucking crazy.

00:53:36.600 It's like, bro, I want to put a bullet in my head.

00:53:38.100 Right.

00:53:38.700 Like I didn't give a fuck.

00:53:39.840 And then, so I remember talking to my therapist and being like, oh, you know, I, people are

00:53:45.100 going to think I'm crazy.

00:53:45.740 And she goes, what do you value?

00:53:47.480 Do you value getting on a 22 hour flight in your mental state right now and going all the

00:53:55.640 way to a country that you've never been, that you want to go to, but this isn't how you

00:53:59.020 want to do that.

00:53:59.420 What do you value?

00:54:00.000 I was like, I value resting and taking a fucking break so I don't off myself.

00:54:05.500 And she said, then do that.

00:54:06.460 And when discussing money and things with her, I remember she goes, she goes, listen,

00:54:12.240 you're always stressing about money and you're a millionaire.

00:54:15.260 She goes, you know, I see a few billionaires.

00:54:17.500 You know what they tell me?

00:54:18.840 I say, what?

00:54:19.460 She goes, they say, if only I had another billion.

00:54:22.640 And I'm like, yo, that's deep.

00:54:24.940 I need to let this shit go.

00:54:26.060 I made it.

00:54:26.580 And so around this time, this is like 2018 around this time.

00:54:32.140 And then I fucking grinded for like another two years, but I realized, man, I was always

00:54:36.700 looking that like so far, man, like, you know, when I started rapping, I'm like, okay,

00:54:42.220 I got to put out a mixtape, put out a mixtape.

00:54:43.700 Okay.

00:54:43.860 I got to get fans, get fans.

00:54:44.880 Okay.

00:54:45.020 I got to start touring, start touring.

00:54:46.420 Okay.

00:54:46.560 I need a record deal.

00:54:47.340 Get a record deal.

00:54:48.120 Okay.

00:54:48.360 I got to put out an album, put out an album.

00:54:49.960 Okay.

00:54:50.180 The second album can't flop.

00:54:51.320 Second album does good.

00:54:52.280 Okay.

00:54:52.540 I need to.

00:54:52.920 And then it's like, I got to go gold.

00:54:54.660 And then you go gold.

00:54:55.320 Okay.

00:54:55.440 I got to go platinum.

00:54:56.180 And then you go platinum.

00:54:57.200 Motherfucker, I'm almost 10 times platinum on one fucking song.

00:54:59.720 Like, it's just a crazy, it's just, it never ends.

00:55:02.480 And so once I made it, when my son came out the puss and I realized I was like, yo, fuck

00:55:10.600 everything else.

00:55:11.260 I want to be as present as I can be.

00:55:13.220 So like me being here with you today, it's why I did my research.

00:55:17.180 You know what I mean?

00:55:17.860 It's why I'm so happy and honored that you would let me on this show.

00:55:22.580 I can't believe, bro.

00:55:23.200 I've been doing this shit for 10 years and people like you want to sit down with me.

00:55:29.180 It's incredible.

00:55:30.160 So now every single day, of course I have goals, ambitions, things that I look forward

00:55:34.620 to, but I do the best I can to truly just be like, wow, this is cool.

00:55:39.080 And also like, I'm not fucking dying of an illness.

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00:58:39.580 What was the thing, like, why were you all, were you able to figure out why you were always

00:58:44.260 looking towards the future?

00:58:45.560 Like, what that was?

00:58:46.720 Like, how that started or anything inside of you?

00:58:48.760 Probably because my present was always horrible growing up.

00:58:52.360 Yeah.

00:58:52.640 So it was always like, I can't wait till I'm 18.

00:58:54.560 I'll get them one day.

00:58:55.560 Yeah.

00:58:55.920 No, I'll get the fuck out of my house.

00:58:57.900 Because my house was a war zone, man.

00:59:00.480 You know what I'm saying?

00:59:01.240 Like I said, motherfuckers.

00:59:01.740 Yeah, so traumatic.

00:59:02.460 Yeah, cook and crack, cook and da-da-da.

00:59:03.740 So how can you be present?

00:59:04.700 How can I be like, oh, yeah, this is so sick.

00:59:06.560 I am so broke.

00:59:07.580 Right.

00:59:08.280 Oh, yeah.

00:59:08.800 Nobody loves me.

00:59:10.360 Tight.

00:59:11.340 Yeah.

00:59:11.680 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:12.600 So I was always looking ahead.

00:59:13.940 You know what I mean?

00:59:14.740 And then now I'm like, oh, my God.

00:59:16.200 My wife loves me.

00:59:17.420 My son loves me.

00:59:18.540 My fans love me.

00:59:19.380 This is it.

00:59:19.920 I can really soak this moment up.

00:59:21.380 Even right here, I'm not even joking.

00:59:22.640 I'm not trying to sound extra.

00:59:23.980 Bro, this is so fucking cool.

00:59:25.220 I've wanted to do your show for like a long time.

00:59:28.020 Thanks, dude.

00:59:28.820 Yeah, man.

00:59:29.180 There's a couple shows I have and people that just in general that I want to spend time with.

00:59:35.560 And I'm glad that we could do this.

00:59:37.380 So thank you for having me.

00:59:38.380 Oh, thanks, man.

00:59:40.200 So with those receptors being weird from growing up with not being able to like, because your

00:59:44.620 receptors get closed down if people aren't loving you and that sort of thing, right?

00:59:47.780 If things aren't proper, if things aren't comfortable, the receptors, I think, for accepting

00:59:51.860 love and that sort of thing probably get kind of damaged as a child.

00:59:54.620 Yeah.

00:59:55.780 Are you able to feel that change once you had your own family?

00:59:59.420 Or has that also been like a work in progress?

01:00:02.820 That was a work in progress because I always was like, one day I'm going to have a family.

01:00:07.140 One day I'm going to have a family.

01:00:08.060 And then I had the family that I do now.

01:00:10.420 And I realized, holy shit, my best friends who were driving me to shows and are my best

01:00:16.740 friends to this day.

01:00:17.600 My producer who made all my beats.

01:00:19.340 These were my family this whole time.

01:00:21.280 As I met these people, like really, blood is like, it's crazy.

01:00:25.060 You think, like even think about this.

01:00:26.760 Like, I know it sounds so stupid, but my wife's parents, first of all, I hit the jackpot.

01:00:30.560 They're fucking stoners and we smoke joints together.

01:00:32.380 It's amazing.

01:00:32.640 Oh, really?

01:00:33.080 Yeah.

01:00:33.220 They're the best.

01:00:33.960 Anyway.

01:00:34.280 Wow.

01:00:34.480 But like, they're my family, but we're not related.

01:00:41.020 Like, isn't that weird to think?

01:00:42.280 I mean, I'm not even being funny.

01:00:43.480 I'm just saying like, there's no, we don't have the same blood.

01:00:46.260 Right.

01:00:46.640 But my son is like, that's my grandparents and that's my mom and that's my dad.

01:00:51.260 But like, even the premise of like a mother and a father, like a husband and wife, like

01:00:56.260 obviously, I know it sounds stupid.

01:00:57.880 I'm setting you up.

01:00:58.500 I'm giving you gold, but I'm saying like, they're not related.

01:01:02.200 But like, as a child, you look at them, you're like, this is our family.

01:01:05.260 Like, it's so weird to process that these two people had a whole life before, fucked

01:01:10.060 different people, all types, but they came together and it's just like, that's my parents,

01:01:14.480 bro.

01:01:14.840 I never had that shit.

01:01:16.380 Right.

01:01:16.900 I never had it.

01:01:18.300 So then when I, you know, I meet my wife and then we have a baby and then I'm like,

01:01:22.380 whoa, like this connection is a real thing.

01:01:25.160 And even the connection that I have, like with other members of her family, like they

01:01:30.280 really become my family.

01:01:32.500 And I'm like, whoa, that's weird.

01:01:33.960 Because also, even though I'm very close with a lot of them, there's some that I'm not

01:01:37.780 that close with, but I'm so close with my homies I came up with.

01:01:42.600 So then I'm like, well, what is family?

01:01:43.940 It's a weird thing.

01:01:44.900 And I'm still trying to process it.

01:01:46.640 That's the biggest thing I'm really enjoying about my thirties is the lack of like giving

01:01:51.640 a fuck about external shit and being able to really just like live my life.

01:01:56.420 They say that I feel more comfortable truly in my skin than ever before.

01:02:01.800 Cause I'll be, I'll do videos and I'll be all funny and stupid.

01:02:04.300 Yeah.

01:02:04.600 I noticed you being like kind of just becoming more of your person, a personality, right?

01:02:08.200 For sure.

01:02:08.600 Than just a, just a music or just seeing the person, the part of your personality that does

01:02:14.120 music.

01:02:14.320 I'm trying to be Rap Seacrest motherfucker.

01:02:15.900 Like I want to be like, I could easily see that.

01:02:17.940 I want to be hip hop fucking Jimmy Fallon.

01:02:20.740 Like that's what I want.

01:02:21.820 I just, I don't know.

01:02:22.680 And I'll still always make music, but this is it.

01:02:25.100 Like I want to, you know, come back and do this shit.

01:02:28.160 I want to go do other, other shows.

01:02:29.660 I want you to come fuck with me on my YouTube shit.

01:02:32.220 Like I really just, I just want to make people laugh and have fun and, and educate along

01:02:37.500 the way.

01:02:37.720 Just like you're doing, this is really great, man.

01:02:39.120 For you to be able to crack a incest joke one second and then talk about serious mental

01:02:43.200 health.

01:02:43.760 It's like dope, man.

01:02:44.660 You walk this really fine line, which is, you should be proud of yourself.

01:02:47.160 Oh, thanks, man.

01:02:47.720 I'm sucking this guy's dick right now, but it's true.

01:02:49.460 Well, I can't help it, but you know, try to stay, be alive and be, you know, do my best

01:02:53.800 to just be myself.

01:02:54.920 It's hard a lot of times.

01:02:55.860 Um, I'm kind of intrigued on what you like, since you were saying, if you didn't have

01:02:59.440 a family and so you, I, it takes somebody like that to go through your experience to

01:03:04.940 be able to make, but then you do something, you make music and beats that bring people

01:03:10.800 together, which is interesting because it's so interesting that some, something that would

01:03:15.220 somebody that didn't have something that brings, makes them feel together would then

01:03:20.700 have the propensity, almost like a mirror or flat or an inverse of it would be able to

01:03:24.940 bring people together.

01:03:25.700 It's really crazy how all that works.

01:03:27.380 It's the craziest part is, is like, you know, I'm very, I'm very known for, you know, like

01:03:34.080 I said, my positive lyrics, like uplifting the lyrics, letting people know, like, it's

01:03:37.060 going to be all right, keep persevering, keep fighting no matter what you're going through.

01:03:40.440 But when I first was writing lyrics like that, it was to me.

01:03:44.360 So, because I didn't have anybody there, I didn't have family, I didn't have friends

01:03:48.000 really to articulate and be like, oh, you're okay.

01:03:50.820 Like you'll get through.

01:03:51.500 Like when my mom's half naked and all fucking bleeding and the cops are coming and dragging

01:03:55.240 the bitch down the stairs and, you know, just, just the wildest shit is happening.

01:03:59.140 Nobody was there to say that.

01:04:00.120 So I'm writing these lyrics like, don't worry, whatever you're going through, you'll get

01:04:03.680 through it.

01:04:04.080 You know, don't worry, you know, whatever's troubling your mind in time, you're going

01:04:08.920 to find it.

01:04:09.580 It's all like, whatever.

01:04:10.580 Like, and I would just get this and it would, it was just released.

01:04:13.980 And then over the years, like, and then once I kind of started popping and when I say popping,

01:04:18.660 I really, I mean, fucking beyond underground, like internet days of dat piff and free mixtapes

01:04:24.000 and YouTube and shit, like the beginning of Twitter.

01:04:26.140 And I started to see people be like, man, this song really resonated with me.

01:04:29.280 I was like, what the fuck?

01:04:31.120 And that's another reason why I even created the 1-800 song because about suicide prevention

01:04:36.620 is because so many people were like, bro, your music saved my life.

01:04:40.300 I'm like, what?

01:04:42.640 And they're like, no, for real.

01:04:44.160 Like, and then I did this tour for my second album where I, uh, I got a tour bus and literally

01:04:49.740 did a fan tour from California to New York, going to my fans' houses, eating dinner with

01:04:54.720 them and their families, playing them my album early.

01:04:56.760 And so many of them were saying, yo, your music saved my life.

01:05:01.560 And they would go into detail about how and why.

01:05:04.360 And then I was like, whoa, okay, this isn't just, whoa, this is crazy.

01:05:07.820 And then that's when I decided to write the song 1-800 because I was like, if I selfishly

01:05:13.200 was writing these records for me and then they've affected you people to the point where, what

01:05:19.540 do you mean you people?

01:05:20.060 Anyway, to the point where you feel like I legitimately have affected you, but I wasn't

01:05:27.440 trying.

01:05:28.340 What could happen if I tried?

01:05:29.980 And that's what happened.

01:05:31.120 And then Congress wrote me a letter and was like, it's fucking statistics have proven that

01:05:35.940 your song has saved lives around the world.

01:05:37.780 That's crazy.

01:05:38.320 Yeah, it's crazy shit.

01:05:39.080 That had to be bizarre.

01:05:39.820 What'd you do with the letter?

01:05:41.560 Um, I got it.

01:05:42.840 I'm trying to frame, I'm trying to frame it.

01:05:44.240 I want to get it framed like a, uh, like a doctorate, like, you know, when you become

01:05:48.080 a doctor and it's like on that like thick raised paper, I want that shit.

01:05:52.300 That's one thing that gets hectic about like when your life gets busy is all the things

01:05:55.460 you want to frame and haven't framed yet.

01:05:57.420 It's like, it's kind of like, I mean, I know it sounds crazy.

01:05:59.660 That's one of the toughest things.

01:06:00.680 There's a pile of about four things at home that I want to frame.

01:06:03.300 And one day I will.

01:06:04.300 I got a lot of pictures too, with people.

01:06:05.940 Like I've been so blessed to meet so many people and then I'll remember and I'll tell my

01:06:10.540 assistant, I'm like, yo, find that picture of me and Stevie wonder.

01:06:13.160 Like for real.

01:06:14.520 Or get to joining me and Kobe or Hey, can you get the shit of the time I met Chappelle

01:06:18.880 and he bought me a drink?

01:06:19.780 Like I literally just all these Sarah Silverman, like, dude, I'm so lucky to like me and bro,

01:06:24.880 we've got to take a picture after this.

01:06:26.040 I'm framing it.

01:06:26.500 Where the fuck do you think it's going?

01:06:27.660 Yeah, it's going to my house, bro.

01:06:29.240 Do you, um, so being black and white is that, it's gotta be like the fucking coolest

01:06:34.200 I feel like, but is it scary sometimes?

01:06:36.280 Like, do you feel black and white or do you just feel one thing?

01:06:41.820 Yeah, that's a good, I feel like me.

01:06:46.660 I know that sounds cliche.

01:06:47.980 I just, I feel like me, but I do, um, like if you walk past like a barbecue spot, do you

01:06:55.520 feel like part of you comes to the edge of your skin?

01:06:58.360 Yeah.

01:06:58.760 You know what I'm saying though?

01:07:00.420 Like do you feel some cells kind of scoot over to, and if you walk past like a, um,

01:07:05.120 a cop, do you feel those same cells like kind of move to the other side of your skin?

01:07:07.940 Oh, a hundred percent.

01:07:08.840 But the craziest part is, is like, cause here's, here's a fact, whether, whether you fucking

01:07:13.120 like logic or not, or whether you're like, whatever, it's like, I don't give a shit.

01:07:18.480 I'm not here to argue.

01:07:20.220 Cause you know, there's people who's like, well, you don't, you'll never understand what

01:07:23.180 it's like to walk down the street as a black man.

01:07:25.120 And I'm like, yo, all right, why don't you just shut the fuck up?

01:07:27.920 Cause you'll never understand what it's like to walk down the street as a black man and

01:07:31.080 a white man's body.

01:07:31.960 And then wait, wait, let me shut the fuck up.

01:07:33.560 Why are we arguing?

01:07:34.520 Yeah.

01:07:34.640 You're like Mrs. Doubtfire.

01:07:35.800 But that's what I'm saying.

01:07:36.420 Why are we, hello?

01:07:38.840 Why are we arguing in the first place?

01:07:40.620 What you, what you're going through, I'm not denying what you're going through.

01:07:43.540 Fuck all that shit.

01:07:44.420 So for me, it's like, yeah, it's a, it's a crazy thing.

01:07:46.620 Like, yeah.

01:07:48.440 And I love it.

01:07:49.480 You know, motherfuckers used to always be like, oh, he talks about this all the time.

01:07:53.500 I'm like, so the fuck what man?

01:07:54.740 I don't give a fuck.

01:07:55.460 I'm proud.

01:07:55.960 I like it.

01:07:56.460 You know what I mean?

01:07:56.840 You can look at motherfucker Twitter bio and their shit be like black and proud motherfucker.

01:08:00.260 I'm biracial.

01:08:01.020 I'm proud.

01:08:01.480 But I do feel, I definitely code switch a lot.

01:08:03.800 You familiar with this term?

01:08:04.740 Uh-uh.

01:08:05.400 Code switching is like, if I was going into, into like a fucking interview or some shit, I'm like,

01:08:09.240 well, hello there, sir.

01:08:10.080 Yes.

01:08:10.280 I really like this job.

01:08:11.780 I'd really appreciate that.

01:08:12.960 Thank you so much.

01:08:14.420 I'm going to call a nigga.

01:08:14.940 What the fuck, man?

01:08:15.540 You got my shit.

01:08:16.460 You know what I mean?

01:08:17.140 So it's like, it is a part of you.

01:08:20.340 It's almost like you kind of feel like two different people.

01:08:22.960 But that's one thing in the culture as well.

01:08:25.160 It's like any, anybody who's of the culture who meets me, IRL, that's some bullshit.

01:08:29.620 Anybody who fucking really meets me, shakes my hand.

01:08:31.960 They know what's up.

01:08:32.640 Because it's not a thing.

01:08:33.660 Why would it even be a thing?

01:08:34.800 It's not a thing.

01:08:35.280 It's only a thing on the internet.

01:08:36.460 It's only a thing on the internet.

01:08:37.480 Like, I've never met anybody and they're like, no, you're not.

01:08:41.180 You're not.

01:08:41.700 Like, I just, I've just, I'm, because it's not a thing.

01:08:44.420 Like, it's not a thing.

01:08:46.800 It's not a thing.

01:08:47.440 It's like, I definitely love to let people know who I am.

01:08:52.940 So yeah, when I meet somebody, if they're like, tell me about yourself.

01:08:56.360 First thing out of my fucking mouth, black dad, white mom, da-da-da, grew up broke.

01:09:00.560 It's just, it's my fucking identity.

01:09:02.660 There's no identity crisis.

01:09:03.740 This is who the fuck I am.

01:09:04.720 And I know.

01:09:05.620 Well, it's also, it's a responsibility in a weird way.

01:09:07.740 As you get older, it's like you become this piece of an important time when people are

01:09:12.620 discussed and stuff and they want to know what things feel like.

01:09:15.160 And they want to know, like, you know, and some people that don't know how to relate.

01:09:20.140 Like, I like always was envious.

01:09:23.960 I always was envious of black kids growing up.

01:09:26.340 Like I grew up in like a half and half neighborhood.

01:09:28.500 Right.

01:09:28.840 And I was real envious of black kids because, I mean, this may sound crazy, but I, like,

01:09:36.380 they at least had an excuse for how people treated them and looked at them in a weird

01:09:40.600 way.

01:09:40.900 And it's not an excuse, but.

01:09:42.120 I understand.

01:09:43.240 They like, and then it was like, if you were poor and white, it was like, you just fucked

01:09:47.340 up somehow.

01:09:48.420 It was like, how, what the fuck?

01:09:50.160 How did you fuck up?

01:09:51.500 You know?

01:09:52.280 Like you didn't.

01:09:53.680 That's like the white privilege thing, which I agree with.

01:09:56.540 I think white privilege is a fucking real thing.

01:09:57.900 And there's always more to it.

01:09:59.000 Exactly.

01:09:59.540 There's always so much more to it.

01:10:00.980 It's like, you're just talking in like a specific moment, but I always was like, man,

01:10:06.260 I feel, it was because I felt sometimes a similar way that some of my black friends felt.

01:10:12.280 Yeah.

01:10:12.420 But because you guys are of, you're of the culture, bro.

01:10:15.340 That's what I'm saying.

01:10:16.180 Culture to me, when I say of the culture, I'm not talking about skin color.

01:10:19.600 I'm not talking about none of that shit.

01:10:20.960 It's like, I grew up with Salvadorian kids and black kids and white kids and Asian homies.

01:10:27.420 And we were all from the same place.

01:10:29.600 We, we talked the same, bro.

01:10:31.700 There was white home.

01:10:32.680 There was white people in our clique and it'd be like 14 black dudes, three white guys.

01:10:37.220 And in my biracial ass and all the white, the white boys would say, nigga, they do.

01:10:41.080 That's what they do.

01:10:41.720 They would say it because the black dudes are like, Hey, say that shit.

01:10:44.860 Set you down.

01:10:45.600 Like that's the internet is a spray painted on my legs.

01:10:49.220 Sometimes I remember what?

01:10:50.700 And I was like, this is fucking, what the fuck?

01:10:52.980 I don't want it this bad, but yeah, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a crazy thing,

01:10:59.280 but that's what I mean of the culture.

01:11:00.480 It's like, you understand that plight of like, you know, uh, just, well, I mean, did you grow up poor?

01:11:06.700 Yeah.

01:11:07.060 Yeah.

01:11:07.280 So then growing up broke and, and, and, and, and longing for things and one thing,

01:11:11.500 and then having that connection.

01:11:12.640 So I was like, damn, you know, like I never had the PlayStation.

01:11:15.600 Right.

01:11:15.900 Like, I mean, I did like later, but I had like the, like when everybody was on like the PS3

01:11:19.680 and shit, I finally got my PlayStation type, type shit.

01:11:22.180 So, but, but that's, that's a big thing.

01:11:24.600 I think, um, all this fighting on the internet of what is this or that?

01:11:28.980 Cause there's no, like, there's no voice.

01:11:31.800 There's no like ambassador of black people, like, do you know what I mean?

01:11:34.540 Or white people or this or Asian people, like just cause one black dude or white guy

01:11:40.240 or says something, it's like, they don't fucking speak for an entire race of people,

01:11:43.160 let alone almost what you could consider like a denomination or just a, uh, uh, um, a,

01:11:48.500 a group of people in a specific place.

01:11:51.200 Because also like racism in America is so different from racism in Europe or this or

01:11:54.960 that, or that, like, you know, people have their different experiences with it in ways

01:11:59.780 that we could never understand.

01:12:01.240 Oh, totally.

01:12:02.000 Yeah.

01:12:02.160 Yeah.

01:12:02.400 I could never understand what it was like to be, what it's like to be something different

01:12:05.860 than what I am.

01:12:06.620 You know, I could try in moments, you know, I think one thing that I envied about black,

01:12:12.000 uh, and it was mostly guys that I knew, I didn't know a lot of black girls when I was

01:12:15.540 a kid, but, um, just their origin story.

01:12:18.760 They had like a origin story, you know, it felt like they had like a history and a purpose

01:12:23.960 and like, it sounds like we're talking about a fucking Marvel movie.

01:12:26.180 What do you mean?

01:12:26.600 But that's what it felt like.

01:12:27.580 It was like, it was like if, uh, I don't know, black, it just felt like they had like,

01:12:32.460 uh, they were coming from a place.

01:12:37.040 It was obvious that they were coming, like making, they had to make a comeback in a way.

01:12:43.020 Oh yeah.

01:12:43.640 No, no, no.

01:12:44.140 The deck was stacked against them.

01:12:45.620 That was it.

01:12:45.960 Yeah.

01:12:46.060 I was like, what the fuck?

01:12:46.760 Where is this going?

01:12:47.540 Yeah.

01:12:47.760 It's a hundred percent.

01:12:48.740 I mean.

01:12:49.360 Right.

01:12:49.540 So they had like a fucking, like, they had like a thing that everybody knew that was obvious.

01:12:56.040 And it was like, I think I always envied that a little bit.

01:12:59.280 It was like, I feel some.

01:13:01.500 Wait, why?

01:13:01.920 Why would you envy?

01:13:03.380 Cause I feel some of these ways, but nobody knows it by looking at me.

01:13:08.120 I get it.

01:13:08.980 But that's different.

01:13:09.820 But once again, that isn't really so much of a race thing.

01:13:13.000 Like even though what you're talking about, yeah, that's like fucking 400 years of slavery

01:13:16.280 and oppression and fucking, yeah, a hundred percent.

01:13:18.900 Like that's some deep shit.

01:13:21.540 But what you're talking about is like the plight of man, bro.

01:13:25.300 Like you came up with these people in your own way though.

01:13:29.260 You definitely don't have the same lineage or history that goes into a lot of emotion, confusion,

01:13:35.480 need for education, you know, that black folk have about themselves.

01:13:40.200 Um, and just, you know, whether it would be, uh, you know, someone in Latin culture as well,

01:13:46.220 experiencing their own thing.

01:13:47.320 So, but aren't you, what, what's your father?

01:13:51.200 My father's from Nicaragua.

01:13:52.540 Yeah.

01:13:53.040 But I'm perceived mostly as white.

01:13:55.400 But I mean, aren't you biracial?

01:13:57.780 Yeah.

01:13:58.240 But I don't have a dual citizenship.

01:14:00.340 You don't need a citizenship.

01:14:01.640 Motherfucker DNA.

01:14:02.580 What you're talking about?

01:14:03.180 DNA is your citizenship.

01:14:04.600 Like you're.

01:14:05.400 Yeah.

01:14:05.980 So you're mixed technically.

01:14:07.580 Yeah.

01:14:07.860 So was your father light skin?

01:14:09.740 No, he was dark skin kind of.

01:14:12.380 Welcome to the club.

01:14:13.260 Shit.

01:14:13.540 What the fuck you mean?

01:14:15.120 But that's what I mean.

01:14:15.900 So you, but do you perceive yourself as white?

01:14:19.460 No, people call us like, uh, my brother's real dark skin and people would call us like,

01:14:24.580 uh, uh, like, uh, what do they call?

01:14:28.520 Oh, Puerto Ricans when I was growing up.

01:14:29.900 That was like the big thing that everybody called.

01:14:31.600 To call y'all Puerto Rican?

01:14:32.460 Yeah.

01:14:32.600 They didn't have any Mexicans back then.

01:14:33.860 So for some reason, people like Puerto Ricans.

01:14:35.340 That's how I felt about Maryland.

01:14:36.600 There was like no Mexicans.

01:14:37.580 There's just a bunch of Salvadorians.

01:14:38.680 Yeah.

01:14:39.040 And I was just eating papooses all the time.

01:14:40.860 They're so fire.

01:14:41.620 But wait, we had a group called whites against Mexicans actually in our town for a little

01:14:45.500 bit, but we didn't have any Mexicans.

01:14:47.900 So it was just like, I think they kind of roughed up this Chinese kid once.

01:14:52.220 What the fuck?

01:14:53.160 Okay.

01:14:53.980 Wait a second.

01:14:54.700 Hold on.

01:14:55.100 So how do you perceive yourself?

01:14:58.100 Or at least how did you growing up?

01:14:59.460 Did you perceive yourself?

01:15:00.260 I perceive myself as white.

01:15:01.500 Cause I think my dad was so old.

01:15:02.940 I was so embarrassed of anything to do with him.

01:15:05.340 That I didn't want to know about it or learn about it.

01:15:08.680 You know, I mean, my dad grew up in a village where people would eat dirt.

01:15:12.780 They didn't have anything to eat and they would eat dirt and get sick and die all the

01:15:15.620 time.

01:15:16.340 I remember him telling me stuff about that.

01:15:18.280 Um, but I didn't care.

01:15:21.740 I, I think I rejected him so much in a weird way cause he was so much older that it was

01:15:26.940 every time he was around, even though I long to like kind of know him more, I think it was

01:15:32.980 so embarrassing once I kind of became like of age where I knew what my friends, the looks

01:15:37.060 on their faces.

01:15:37.560 Isn't that so annoying to like, no, but not even fuck those kids, but just you, that you

01:15:42.060 were so young and like, it's almost like imagine not to, right.

01:15:46.280 But if I could be me now, then I would accept all the, and just talk about all the things

01:15:50.420 that you could learn, but it's all good.

01:15:53.800 You know what I mean?

01:15:54.480 That's, that's, that's life.

01:15:55.780 And, and that, that's where you, uh, where you stood and you were a kid, you were being

01:16:01.040 normal though.

01:16:01.640 It's not like you were like some piece of shit.

01:16:03.300 You know what I mean?

01:16:03.900 It's like, you know, you were just like dead.

01:16:06.600 Like, you know what I mean?

01:16:07.280 It was, it was right.

01:16:08.340 It was normal.

01:16:08.940 Yeah.

01:16:09.000 It was like, dad, drop me off around the block.

01:16:10.620 Like, don't, don't pull up.

01:16:11.540 So I get that.

01:16:13.000 Um, they had, what was that?

01:16:14.800 Did you see the thing they had?

01:16:16.640 Zach, if you can pull it up, it was about, they just had some kids that got in trouble.

01:16:19.600 They had a Salvadorian caretaker.

01:16:23.380 The only thing I'm talking about in Miami, the second graders, it was a blackface incident

01:16:27.400 that they had.

01:16:28.160 What the what?

01:16:28.620 Yeah.

01:16:28.900 Yeah.

01:16:29.160 We were talking about this before.

01:16:30.240 Or two or what is it?

01:16:31.200 Two year olds.

01:16:32.420 Yeah.

01:16:32.660 So there's a Miami preschool is kind of getting some flack because they put two year olds

01:16:37.020 in like blackface for black history month.

01:16:39.520 What?

01:16:40.940 At least they gave them jobs and shit though.

01:16:43.020 I mean, damn.

01:16:46.620 Yo, you're kidding.

01:16:47.800 No, but here's what happened.

01:16:48.660 There's a Salvadorian.

01:16:50.120 Can you find the people that run this preschool in Miami are from Argentina?

01:16:55.760 So they don't know the culture here as much.

01:16:58.240 Oh, I understood.

01:16:58.680 So this was black history month.

01:17:00.240 So they were just, so they had these kids and they, some of the white kids, they wanted

01:17:04.040 them to be able to be black.

01:17:05.460 And so, and then you got these little innocent little kids that don't know what the fuck

01:17:10.820 is going on.

01:17:11.560 Well, the crazy thing is they blurt the kid's face out.

01:17:14.160 Oh yeah.

01:17:14.480 Like that's going to make it different.

01:17:15.720 That makes it look even worse.

01:17:17.180 I know.

01:17:17.460 It makes it look even worse.

01:17:18.660 It looks like eight bit fucking, yo, that's, that's wild.

01:17:21.620 Only blackface I've ever really personally experienced.

01:17:25.360 Is this Rolex I got?

01:17:27.320 Oh, gang, gang.

01:17:28.300 This shit is dope.

01:17:29.120 Yeah.

01:17:29.360 It's actually in Japanese kanji too, which is a, which is a vibe.

01:17:32.860 Is that a, let me see it.

01:17:33.880 It's from Tokyo.

01:17:35.080 Oh, dang.

01:17:35.780 That's nice, huh?

01:17:37.380 And is that stone inside of it?

01:17:39.600 What do you mean?

01:17:40.560 What's in the inside of it?

01:17:41.900 Oh, you mean like, what is the, what is it, the black shit made out of?

01:17:45.460 I don't know.

01:17:45.760 It might be onyx or something.

01:17:46.740 I don't fucking know.

01:17:48.000 Cause this show.

01:17:48.880 Yeah.

01:17:49.020 Cause well the, um, yeah, the blackface stuff comes from like minstrel shows.

01:17:52.840 They had like, I think it was like 200, 150 years ago.

01:17:55.740 They had like shows where they wouldn't let black performers perform.

01:17:59.560 So they made them.

01:18:00.960 So they made white people.

01:18:02.160 They had them put black stuff on their face.

01:18:03.780 Right.

01:18:04.780 So I think that's where a lot of the, obviously the origins of people being against it, you know,

01:18:10.940 that it makes people feel uncomfortable.

01:18:12.180 I just wonder if at a certain point, like if it's a two year old kid, what the,

01:18:17.400 fuck this heat, you know, and it's like.

01:18:18.580 Yeah.

01:18:18.780 But, but a two year old kid ain't applying blackface to himself.

01:18:22.980 That's true.

01:18:23.640 There's an adult doing that.

01:18:25.700 Like, let's just be real.

01:18:26.960 No, you know what I'm saying?

01:18:28.200 What the fuck?

01:18:28.520 First of all, where does this kid have accent, access to paint or shoe polish?

01:18:33.580 Like they was doing back in the day.

01:18:34.940 Like where, like it's no, this is, this is an adult.

01:18:37.180 Now this specific thing, it's like, oh, okay.

01:18:39.780 They were, it was like a Latin situation.

01:18:42.480 They didn't know.

01:18:43.480 Like it is what it is.

01:18:44.680 You know what I mean?

01:18:45.320 But besides that, do you think there will ever be a time where it's like, say a kid

01:18:49.540 who loves, you know, Derek Rose is his favorite athlete.

01:18:52.700 He's an eight year old.

01:18:54.600 He can, he can put on makeup if he wants.

01:18:59.520 He can darken up a little bit or urban out a little bit to go out trick or treating,

01:19:03.240 you know?

01:19:03.560 To what?

01:19:04.280 Or he can like.

01:19:05.020 To urban out?

01:19:06.200 I mean, he can get like.

01:19:07.080 Urban out?

01:19:08.100 I mean.

01:19:08.420 Yo, I'm about to urban out right now.

01:19:10.340 No, I'm just saying.

01:19:10.800 Yo, you got, where's the shoe polish?

01:19:12.300 Let's urban out.

01:19:12.940 What the fuck?

01:19:13.640 I don't know.

01:19:14.160 I'm just saying, do you think.

01:19:15.260 No.

01:19:15.720 Okay.

01:19:16.000 Of course not.

01:19:16.940 You can't fucking, what the fuck kind of shit is that?

01:19:18.800 You can't do that shit, man.

01:19:19.920 Now, the difference is though, it's like, if you're Robert Downey Jr., I think that shit's

01:19:24.160 hilarious.

01:19:24.920 Like if you're, if you're a fucking actor, it's a gig, it's a job, it's a bit, you know,

01:19:30.220 you're fucking Chappelle.

01:19:31.380 You're the, you're like, whatever.

01:19:32.200 Like it's fucking, if this is what you do.

01:19:34.360 Right.

01:19:34.560 You know what I mean?

01:19:34.900 Cause I'm gonna be real, bro.

01:19:35.880 Like, like comedians, I feel like I don't even, yep, there it is.

01:19:39.920 There it goes.

01:19:40.480 Now, don't get me wrong.

01:19:41.120 That's the most racist shit ever, but that's why it's fucking hilarious.

01:19:44.580 Let's just be real.

01:19:45.300 Anybody who's watched Tropic Thunder, it's like, you got to understand they're actually

01:19:49.420 making fun of the racism of Hollywood at the time by casting a white guy to play a black

01:19:56.040 guy who's really another guy and a guy with another guy.

01:19:58.820 Yeah.

01:19:59.340 Survive.

01:20:00.640 Survive.

01:20:01.600 Like, and that's just like, man, when I was 18 years old and I watched that,

01:20:04.440 I was like, this is fucking hilarious.

01:20:06.520 Right.

01:20:06.960 But it's, I believe that the shit was done right.

01:20:10.180 It was tasteful.

01:20:11.040 It was this, it was, it was, I mean, even when there's a moment in the movie when he's

01:20:14.360 like a white character is talking to him as he's in black face and he's like, something,

01:20:20.180 something, you people.

01:20:20.740 And he's like, what do you mean you people?

01:20:22.360 And then, and then the black homie who's the actor, he's like, what the fuck you mean?

01:20:25.940 You people.

01:20:26.760 That's funny, bro.

01:20:28.340 That's funny.

01:20:28.920 And so question for you as a comedian, like where do we draw the line?

01:20:34.360 Cause I feel like shit's easing up a bit.

01:20:36.540 And I think, I think with the, I know we all know where it started.

01:20:39.800 Harvey Weinstein, Me Too movement, cancel culture.

01:20:42.320 Like it became this crazy, almost overcorrection, but I'm happy it happened just because like

01:20:47.500 there's a lot of shit, pieces of shit in the industry that we're getting away with a lot

01:20:51.560 of stuff.

01:20:51.920 Now there's a big difference between like, I made a little mistake or dah, dah, dah, whatever.

01:20:56.220 And then just like straight up rape and things like that.

01:21:00.000 So it was, I think it was really good that that happened, but then yeah, a hundred percent.

01:21:04.740 It was, it was incredible that these women were given a voice and given power and, you

01:21:09.060 know, taking back power that was essentially stripped from them, which is disgusting.

01:21:12.800 And that's something I've dealt, uh, seen the women in my life deal with personally.

01:21:16.880 So I got that now fast forward, you know, a couple of years that I, and then you just

01:21:20.800 making jokes and shit.

01:21:21.800 Like I saw this one girl, they was trying to cancel this girl in high school.

01:21:25.640 I was watching it, you know, H3, H3, you ever, yeah, it's like.

01:21:28.100 Yeah, Ethan Klein.

01:21:28.820 Yeah, Ethan.

01:21:29.420 So like Ethan did this, not bit, but you know, you know, and he did this thing where he's

01:21:33.580 talking about this, this little white girl who's wearing a, like a kimono prom dress.

01:21:38.420 And then everybody's like, that's cultural appropriation.

01:21:41.860 Like this girl's not allowed to wear a kimono.

01:21:44.340 She's not Japanese.

01:21:45.420 Like all this shit.

01:21:46.200 Right.

01:21:46.360 And I was just like, God damn, this is fucking crazy.

01:21:48.360 Cause I'm like wearing a, I'm like wearing a fucking kimono watching this shit.

01:21:51.680 Cause I, cause I went to Japan and I'm fucking doing an album in Japan and I'm like, where

01:21:56.960 am I shit?

01:21:57.520 You know, I think I'm turning Japanese.

01:21:58.820 Like I'm fucking vibing it over there and I'm supporting the economy.

01:22:02.740 I'm buying, it's a fucking little Japanese woman.

01:22:04.980 Who's like, you know, have this, have this, thank you very much.

01:22:08.840 And I'm like, Oh, that's dope.

01:22:10.060 Does that mean I'm culturally, what the fuck?

01:22:12.040 Like, I don't know.

01:22:13.020 Now this is a hot take, but I'm just simply saying, that's kind of crazy.

01:22:17.720 You know what I mean?

01:22:18.600 Yeah.

01:22:19.120 Like she, it wasn't like she was like straight traditional, even, even then though.

01:22:23.500 But it was just like, she was just like wearing a cute little, a little thing.

01:22:26.540 And they was trying to destroy this, this girl.

01:22:28.980 So as a comedian, how do you feel when people be really like, did you see what happened

01:22:34.660 to, you know, Troy Bond, you know who Troy Bond is?

01:22:36.720 Uh-uh, bring him up.

01:22:37.920 Yo, you don't know Troy Bond?

01:22:39.240 Troy Bond?

01:22:40.260 Yo.

01:22:40.660 Okay.

01:22:40.880 First of all, Troy Bond is the future of comedy.

01:22:42.980 Is he really?

01:22:43.760 This kid, yeah.

01:22:45.320 Co-tweet, co-tweet this motherfucker.

01:22:47.040 He's on, he's on TikTok.

01:22:48.040 He's incredible.

01:22:49.200 And if you go to it, you might be able to see it here.

01:22:52.660 Troy Bond.

01:22:53.500 If you go to his, yeah, keep scrolling down.

01:22:56.440 You should, it's, oh fuck.

01:22:58.000 You're like, I met him before.

01:22:59.060 And he's a gay gentleman?

01:23:00.200 No, he's not gay.

01:23:02.460 But he, he, he does refer to himself as a Puerto Rican lesbian.

01:23:07.080 Oh.

01:23:07.460 But he's actually black and white.

01:23:08.960 He, he made a joke about how he looks like, looks like that.

01:23:12.060 Yeah, he looks like that killer, remember?

01:23:14.080 Who?

01:23:14.500 Jeffrey Dunn?

01:23:14.740 Ronnie Rodriguez or whatever.

01:23:16.200 Oh, the fucking, um.

01:23:17.900 Yeah.

01:23:18.520 What was that guy?

01:23:19.060 The guy?

01:23:19.620 The fucking, you talking about the dude?

01:23:21.240 Oh, Zodiac?

01:23:21.900 No, not the Zodiac.

01:23:22.880 The fucking.

01:23:23.100 I think it's Ronnie Rodriguez.

01:23:24.720 Who was it?

01:23:24.960 How do we go from Troy Bond to Ronnie Rodriguez?

01:23:27.420 Dude, somebody's got to kill.

01:23:28.920 Bro, I'll tell you this.

01:23:30.200 They, uh.

01:23:30.920 What the fuck?

01:23:31.880 No, that's not.

01:23:33.020 You're thinking, no, Ramirez, Ramirez.

01:23:35.340 Ronnie Ramirez, yeah.

01:23:36.220 You're thinking of Ramirez, the fucking whatever.

01:23:38.020 Ronnie Ramirez, the Zodiac salesman or whatever.

01:23:40.580 But listen, so if you, I don't know if you have TikTok up there, if you can go to TikTok

01:23:44.060 or if somebody can try to get you this clip.

01:23:45.760 Because I think it's really important that you show it on the show.

01:23:47.600 Oh, I see it.

01:23:47.920 And the reason is, is because, so he's black and white, but I'm gonna be honest, he looks

01:23:52.920 like he could, he could be white or something else or, you know, he's kind of like yourself.

01:23:57.000 Ambitious.

01:23:57.740 Yeah.

01:23:58.280 And so he's doing this, um, this great set.

01:24:04.900 We'll find it.

01:24:05.640 We'll find it.

01:24:05.980 He's doing this great set.

01:24:06.940 Uh-huh.

01:24:07.620 And this girl screams at him and she's like, that's so fucking racist, blah, blah, blah,

01:24:14.060 blah, blah, blah.

01:24:14.280 And she doesn't even know.

01:24:15.480 Yeah.

01:24:16.160 That he's, that he's mixed.

01:24:17.320 You get a lot of that in clubs these days.

01:24:18.820 So I'm just like, why the fuck would you go to the club, to a comedy show?

01:24:24.720 You see the bill, you know, pretty much who's going to be there that night.

01:24:27.640 Who's got time.

01:24:28.720 You know, I've only ever been to a comedy club once.

01:24:30.860 We'll talk about that in a bit.

01:24:31.760 But what is that like for you?

01:24:34.220 Well, I think this is what's happened.

01:24:35.680 I think this is what's happened.

01:24:36.800 I think you have, I don't think you have as much racism in the world as you did 25 years

01:24:43.260 ago.

01:24:43.920 I really don't.

01:24:44.920 I think what you have these days, you have a lot of division that happens from people

01:24:49.800 like online.

01:24:51.240 You have a lot of people that have marketed the past and it's great to be reminded by

01:24:56.320 the past.

01:24:57.720 Undeniably.

01:24:58.420 Right.

01:24:58.660 We still have a lot of recovering to do from the past.

01:25:01.860 I think some cultures, even genetically, they have to work.

01:25:06.220 It will take time for their DNA to heal from traumas of the past.

01:25:10.440 No doubt.

01:25:11.500 But I think now you get a lot of the past marketed, like packaged into clips into like movies where

01:25:17.880 you're constantly reminded of, of like the fucked up things of the past to the point where some

01:25:26.280 people that just becomes their identity now.

01:25:28.580 So they don't have any real like human connection to it.

01:25:31.580 They just have this sort of like, it's almost like, I don't want to say it's an educational

01:25:36.640 connection, but it's just like, oh, I see this.

01:25:40.080 That's racist.

01:25:40.760 There's no, I don't have any texture to it.

01:25:44.640 There's no like history to it for me.

01:25:46.900 It's just something that I see now online and I know that that's supposed to be racist.

01:25:50.540 But what's also crazy to me is the, is the hit when there is history ties.

01:25:53.800 So for example, I wrote this movie script a couple of years ago called Jerry about a

01:25:56.960 homeless comedian who tells jokes on Venice for a dollar.

01:25:59.640 Okay.

01:25:59.900 And one night he's, he's telling standup jokes, all types of jokes.

01:26:04.380 He's telling black jokes, white jokes, gay jokes.

01:26:07.020 It's just be, he's just being funny.

01:26:08.200 He's being himself.

01:26:08.840 Okay.

01:26:09.120 Jerry.

01:26:09.600 And he makes a joke about, I forget it now, but it's something along the lines of like,

01:26:14.680 oh man, could you imagine if like a South Central, um, blood had leukemia, he would be

01:26:21.400 like the illest, uh, blood of all time because it's a blood condition.

01:26:25.880 Anyway, it's a lot funnier with the way that I wrote it.

01:26:28.240 And in this, in the, uh, in the crowd, in the crowd, um, this woman who was laughing

01:26:36.300 hysterically stops and starts heckling the man, heckling the man, heckling the man.

01:26:39.520 And then she's just like, how could you possibly say that?

01:26:42.340 And he doesn't even argue with her.

01:26:45.000 And his manager, Mike, um, which is the character I'd like to play, uh, is like, dude, why didn't

01:26:50.160 you say anything to that woman?

01:26:51.940 And he goes, you know, a lot of people tend to be hypocrites.

01:26:54.680 She, she, she's a white middle-aged white lady.

01:26:56.800 She wants to laugh at black jokes.

01:26:58.360 She wants to, she's straight.

01:26:59.540 She wants to laugh at gay jokes.

01:27:01.060 He's like, it's very apparent.

01:27:02.880 It's either her, her mom, her dad.

01:27:04.880 Somebody died of a blood disease, bro.

01:27:07.200 It was this or that.

01:27:08.460 And it was just really cool.

01:27:11.020 Cause I, I've taken my own experience when writing that about what triggers people and

01:27:15.300 what I've seen trigger people.

01:27:16.320 And I just think it's really kind of annoying that people like to pick and choose.

01:27:22.780 Don't get me wrong.

01:27:23.480 You know, it's like, it's almost like if, if somebody was to make a Parkinson's joke,

01:27:26.420 you know, I actually, I made, I made a joke.

01:27:28.920 Um, I, I, I had a, my, my, you don't know Parkinson's.

01:27:33.060 I don't, but I'll tell you, I'll tell you something.

01:27:34.740 It's actually wild.

01:27:36.160 So, uh, a gentleman named Chewy does all my tattoos.

01:27:39.420 I met him through Travis Parker.

01:27:39.960 I saw him on your Instagram.

01:27:41.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:41.680 And so he asked me to give him a tattoo.

01:27:44.300 So he did that Metal Gear Solid one.

01:27:45.360 It took about six or seven hours.

01:27:46.420 Exactly.

01:27:46.780 He spent his time.

01:27:47.520 You spent your time.

01:27:48.600 You care.

01:27:49.480 You just look at it.

01:27:49.940 That was a cool one actually.

01:27:50.740 It reminded me of that game too.

01:27:51.720 Go on.

01:27:51.940 Thank you.

01:27:52.160 I love that game.

01:27:53.240 So Wu-Tang, I have a Wu-Tang tattoo right here.

01:27:55.780 And he was like, oh, I want you to give me a Wu-Tang tattoo.

01:27:57.760 And this was like five years ago.

01:27:58.940 And I jokingly, I'm like, y'all don't want to see that shit.

01:28:01.160 It looks like Michael J.

01:28:01.920 Fox did it.

01:28:03.060 Cause it's all squiggly.

01:28:04.180 Oh yeah.

01:28:04.640 Bad off.

01:28:05.380 But I go, I go, don't worry.

01:28:07.540 I can make that joke.

01:28:08.740 It's kind of like saying the N word.

01:28:11.000 And I was like, cause I'm black.

01:28:12.900 And I said, because I have dystonia.

01:28:15.120 So dystonia, I have cervical dystonia.

01:28:17.760 I don't have a cervix.

01:28:18.680 Cervical is a, it's your neck.

01:28:20.760 And basically my head shakes like this.

01:28:22.720 Really?

01:28:23.180 Yeah.

01:28:23.420 It goes like this.

01:28:24.180 You got that remix in you.

01:28:25.420 Oh, you got that.

01:28:26.540 It's crazy.

01:28:28.000 And so I have to go get Botox injections in my neck.

01:28:32.260 No.

01:28:32.820 Yeah.

01:28:33.060 Deep in my neck.

01:28:33.840 It's why my neck looks like such a young bad bitch.

01:28:36.620 No, they go deep in there.

01:28:38.300 It's why Botox was invented.

01:28:40.040 And so they go all the way into weaken the muscle.

01:28:42.300 Cause my muscle, I know bro, it's fucking crap.

01:28:43.940 Did it put you down when you do it?

01:28:44.880 No, I do it.

01:28:45.600 I do it every three months.

01:28:46.760 I'm supposed to, like my shit right now.

01:28:48.600 You're running behind, huh?

01:28:49.520 Yeah.

01:28:49.780 It's shaking a little bit now.

01:28:51.220 So I got to do it.

01:28:53.380 And what I'm saying is, is like, bro, people die of Parkinson's disease.

01:28:59.000 You know, Ryan Reynolds, father passed away.

01:29:00.620 Like he had to experience it.

01:29:01.560 So it's like, when I make a joke like that, um, I think it's really how it's just,

01:29:05.980 it's just how you do it.

01:29:06.960 Like that's a man's pain, bro.

01:29:08.500 You know what I mean?

01:29:09.020 We all love Michael J. Fox.

01:29:10.340 It's fucking Michael Smith fly, man.

01:29:11.680 It's Marty.

01:29:12.100 Like we love Michael J. Fox.

01:29:13.600 I love Michael J. Fox.

01:29:14.820 And in no way would I ever try to hurt somebody this or that.

01:29:19.660 That's honestly my pain.

01:29:21.380 That's like me.

01:29:22.040 Like the fact that if I didn't have these shots in me right now, or even my thumbs,

01:29:25.980 my thumbs fucking shake.

01:29:27.340 Like it's these things that, that are insecure and that give me emotional pain and sometimes

01:29:32.340 physical pain.

01:29:33.420 And in a way I used comedy in that moment to like cope and with a man that I can relate

01:29:41.020 to, to some degree, not to that degree, obviously.

01:29:43.280 And I just think it's kind of crazy that if you're a good comedian, no, if you're a fucking

01:29:48.200 great comedian, you use pain and you use trauma such as Chappelle and your prior and so many

01:29:54.640 great people to talk about the hard things.

01:29:58.200 And so I think I love Chappelle because no matter what, you motherfuckers got hot takes,

01:30:02.120 I love great comedians because they will shit on black people, white people, Asian people,

01:30:07.840 straight people, gay people.

01:30:08.820 Chinese.

01:30:09.140 Chinese.

01:30:09.680 Every day, every day, and they have us all laughing with and at each other.

01:30:14.060 Like it's fun.

01:30:15.000 It used to be like that, bro.

01:30:17.260 I mean, it is with cats like you and who step out and they're like, fuck that.

01:30:20.960 And you say what you want.

01:30:21.860 Cause like the thing is, is like, I love Chappelle and I feel like the motherfuckers like damn

01:30:27.100 near uncancelable.

01:30:28.000 I used to think Kanye was uncancelable.

01:30:30.580 I really believed it until Kanye and I love Kanye.

01:30:33.600 You know, it's just like, yo, he's mentally, he's ill, you know?

01:30:36.100 And it's like, I literally was like, there's nothing.

01:30:39.540 He was wearing a white lives matter t-shirts.

01:30:41.660 I'm like, there's nothing Kanye West can do.

01:30:44.080 And he did snorkeling.

01:30:45.100 He did.

01:30:45.860 There's pictures of him snorkeling.

01:30:46.820 He did the two things that you don't do.

01:30:50.640 One of two, one of two.

01:30:51.640 He didn't do the two things.

01:30:52.480 He did one of two things that you don't do that could get you canceled.

01:30:58.740 Sex shit that you shouldn't be doing, whether it's underage or this, da, da, da.

01:31:02.180 He did that?

01:31:02.840 No, he didn't do that.

01:31:04.080 Oh, I said one of two.

01:31:06.020 So don't mis-fucking-quote me now.

01:31:07.440 Okay.

01:31:08.320 Or fucking be racist.

01:31:10.620 And he's-

01:31:11.540 But he was raced against Jews.

01:31:12.620 That's what really got him canceled.

01:31:13.600 No, I know 100%, but I'm still saying-

01:31:15.380 He tried every other race to be raced against, I feel like.

01:31:17.580 Yeah, but I'm just-

01:31:18.460 And it didn't take-

01:31:19.040 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:31:19.640 I think the one, there is something to be said about, yeah, it's just like, bro, that's

01:31:24.780 a group of people just in general that are fucking, they are killing it in Hollywood.

01:31:30.080 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:31:30.920 Like, it's just a real, in a great way.

01:31:33.380 Like, cool, whatever, fuck it.

01:31:34.340 Good for them.

01:31:34.920 Yeah, I don't think that it is.

01:31:35.040 But like, why would you say, not even that, take that shit out of it, right?

01:31:39.520 Okay.

01:31:39.760 Bro, you're talking about, you know, Hitler was kind of cool.

01:31:42.320 Right.

01:31:42.700 I think there's something, he got addicted to something about pushing buttons.

01:31:46.860 I think that's what it was.

01:31:47.840 Yes, I agree.

01:31:48.300 I mean, from the hat to all this other shit.

01:31:50.200 And it's like, whatever, man, it's cool.

01:31:51.700 But I just, that was a sad thing.

01:31:53.320 That was like such a hard thing to see.

01:31:54.700 Cause I'm just like, man, that's one, that's the one thing like legitimate, like hate, like

01:31:59.560 hate, hate speech, hate this, hate that.

01:32:01.480 It's like, bro, you could have pretty much said anything, but you, you backed Hitler.

01:32:05.520 Like you can't do that.

01:32:06.600 Yeah.

01:32:06.720 You can't back Hitler, dude.

01:32:07.840 I mean, even if he, you know, every, you know, yeah, you cannot do it.

01:32:12.780 Yeah.

01:32:13.000 It's Hitler.

01:32:13.600 Yeah.

01:32:13.860 I mean, yeah, it's Hitler.

01:32:14.960 It's like, there's like four guys you can't back.

01:32:16.720 Hitler, Satan, Weinstein, I think.

01:32:20.920 Yeah.

01:32:21.060 Definitely.

01:32:21.700 Definitely that.

01:32:22.620 And I don't know who else, maybe that Wile E. Coyote guy, whichever one's a bad one on

01:32:25.980 that.

01:32:28.580 I love it.

01:32:29.820 But yeah, I think that that was crazy.

01:32:31.900 But here's one thing that happened with the Kanye thing that also got weird is like, if he's

01:32:35.720 mentally unwell, right?

01:32:36.840 Do you think he's mentally unwell?

01:32:38.060 Yes.

01:32:38.560 Right.

01:32:39.260 So at a certain point.

01:32:40.320 I don't think he's fucking, I don't think he's crazy.

01:32:42.420 Right.

01:32:42.720 He may be manic.

01:32:43.420 He may have some different issues.

01:32:44.960 I think, yeah, I think he's bipolar and I think he's, but he's mentally unwell.

01:32:47.980 I don't think he's like fucking crazy.

01:32:49.660 Like I'm not writing my man off.

01:32:51.020 I love this dude.

01:32:51.780 He's changed my life.

01:32:52.780 Yeah.

01:32:53.020 I never even met him, you know?

01:32:54.760 So anyway, please.

01:32:55.500 I just want to make that very clear.

01:32:56.840 Like I'm not hot take just trying to use Kanye's name for fucking TikTok.

01:33:00.640 Oh, I think, yeah.

01:33:01.440 I wish Rihanna would have brought him out at halftime.

01:33:03.340 I think that would have been awesome.

01:33:04.240 Wouldn't it have?

01:33:05.140 Yeah.

01:33:05.340 But you know, her folks were like, yeah.

01:33:07.800 Also, it's just like, is that where he really needs to be right now?

01:33:11.680 Probably not.

01:33:12.300 On stage in front of the entire world.

01:33:14.120 Right.

01:33:14.460 But.

01:33:14.940 But that's exactly goes into my point.

01:33:16.340 I was going to make is that, or that I was going to bring up is that at what point should

01:33:20.620 the media stop putting some dude out there if they know he's mentally unwell?

01:33:25.560 The same media that has running advertisements for like, people are mentally unwell, get help,

01:33:30.720 get help.

01:33:31.280 And then they're taking somebody, even if that guy's making a clown of himself, right?

01:33:35.560 If you know in your heart that part of him is not well, and you continue to publicize

01:33:42.220 him every day, every moment, everything he says, like that's kind of sick.

01:33:47.300 It is.

01:33:47.760 But that's our culture.

01:33:48.620 That's what we live in, man.

01:33:49.480 And, you know, we love to see, I've even had it at a different scale, of course, but

01:33:54.500 like, just my rise, like I was the underground, underdog.

01:33:58.280 Everybody wants that fucking underdog to win.

01:34:00.260 And then when they win, it's like, oh, he's killing it, killing it.

01:34:03.000 But like, they want you to fall.

01:34:05.620 Yeah.

01:34:06.180 They really do.

01:34:07.120 It's like a movie.

01:34:07.900 It only works like that.

01:34:08.920 Yeah.

01:34:09.220 And I've fallen, but it's almost like perception.

01:34:11.860 Like, have I really fallen?

01:34:12.780 Like, I'm fucking, I've made good investments monetarily.

01:34:16.100 You have a family.

01:34:16.700 Yeah, exactly.

01:34:17.240 So it's like, but there is a thing where it's like, oh, he's whack now, you know?

01:34:21.760 And it's like, oh, Logic's whack.

01:34:23.140 And then you drop another album and they're like, Logic's back.

01:34:26.240 Logic's whack.

01:34:26.900 Logic's back.

01:34:27.940 And then I'm just, and this is where I finally found this place where I'm like, I give a fuck.

01:34:31.980 Logic's rich and happy.

01:34:33.800 Like that, that's all that matters.

01:34:36.980 I could talk to you all day and I want to talk to you all day.

01:34:39.760 I got to pee.

01:34:40.300 All right, let's pee and we'll come back and do another half hour.

01:34:42.320 All right.

01:34:43.420 Oh, man.

01:34:44.280 Yo, how about pee drips?

01:34:45.640 Oh, fuck.

01:34:46.260 Look, I feel like I used to shake it.

01:34:48.280 I don't want any more.

01:34:48.920 I keep it.

01:34:49.240 I just let it go right into the pant.

01:34:50.780 Nah, man.

01:34:51.280 I got to shake it a little bit.

01:34:52.540 But yeah, you're right.

01:34:53.600 You're right.

01:34:54.240 It's just annoying, but whatever.

01:34:56.420 Pee drips.

01:34:57.000 It's like, anyway, I.

01:35:00.160 How much do you sleep?

01:35:01.240 Do you, are you able to sleep fully through the night or you got to get up and pee?

01:35:03.680 Well, oh, I get up every night, 100%.

01:35:07.060 Wow.

01:35:07.460 Every night?

01:35:08.260 Yeah.

01:35:08.400 Because I'm hydrated.

01:35:09.620 Like I love, I drink a lot of water and I used to, I mean, I'm at the tail end of college

01:35:14.180 because, well, I never went to college, but I also.

01:35:17.400 Then that's the total attitude of somebody who never went to college.

01:35:20.200 Yeah.

01:35:20.660 I'm at the tail end of college, bro.

01:35:22.340 I just mean like drinking.

01:35:24.360 What the fuck?

01:35:25.080 I've never heard that statement in my life.

01:35:26.860 Alcohol wise.

01:35:27.460 33, he's like, I'm at the tail end of college, bro.

01:35:30.220 Like about time, bro.

01:35:31.860 Yeah.

01:35:32.240 I never drank really or smoked.

01:35:35.720 Yeah.

01:35:36.000 My whole life until I was like 27, 28.

01:35:39.220 What?

01:35:39.560 So was that because your parents were addicts, you think?

01:35:41.680 A hundred percent.

01:35:42.480 Yeah.

01:35:42.680 Yeah.

01:35:42.880 Without, without doubt.

01:35:43.780 Wow.

01:35:44.100 And then, cause I was like, I can't let this fuck me.

01:35:47.780 Like literally my friends would be like, man, I just hit the weed.

01:35:49.640 I actually just released a video yesterday about this.

01:35:53.360 It's like an anime that is kind of a part of a trailer for this album, College Park,

01:35:57.100 that's dropping.

01:35:58.320 And anyway, uh, so I was just so scared that it would affect that.

01:36:02.240 And then when I made that 30 million, I was like, well, I did it.

01:36:05.580 Let's do Coke.

01:36:06.540 No, I'm just kidding.

01:36:07.560 No, I was like, I did it.

01:36:08.740 Okay, cool.

01:36:09.280 And then I just, I started to enjoy, uh, all I don't do anything hard and I don't judge

01:36:13.260 anybody who does, but I do, uh, I just, I love scotch and I love, uh, I love weed.

01:36:18.980 And I just started doing that and then I did it pretty, pretty good.

01:36:23.820 And then like 2020, like through COVID, I was getting fucking wrecked.

01:36:26.840 Really?

01:36:27.320 Yeah.

01:36:27.520 I mean, there's nothing else to do.

01:36:28.520 I had my baby and whatever, but I was like just hung over all the time for like two years.

01:36:31.860 I was like perpetually hung over cause I never did it.

01:36:33.740 I never, I never did it.

01:36:34.540 I finally did it, but it wasn't like, bro, I actually have a song in this album, you know,

01:36:38.800 and I go, uh, you know, I wake up seven days a week and get the job done.

01:36:42.300 You know, you know, I'm always there for my wife and my son, but at the end of the day,

01:36:45.320 I love to pour one more like two, but occasionally three.

01:36:47.760 And it scares me not because I have a problem.

01:36:49.940 I'm the type of person, if there's an issue, then I'm gonna solve them.

01:36:52.180 It's more like seeing how this shit has destroyed life.

01:36:54.860 I look at my mom, I look at my dad and it's just, it's, it's a, it's a crazy thing, man.

01:36:59.820 So I saw that.

01:37:01.240 Um, and I, I do, I get, I get the job done.

01:37:03.680 I did my thing, but now I'm just, I'm at the tail end of it.

01:37:07.000 Cause I, yeah, I just, and I say this to say like my whole sleep schedules changed.

01:37:11.260 Cause it just, as a musician, I used to be up till five 30 in the morning, wake up at 1 PM.

01:37:15.760 I was in bed with my wife the other day and it was two.

01:37:19.320 And I was like, dude, if this was two years ago, it'd be 11 PM for me right now.

01:37:24.000 It was two, it's, it was 2 PM in the afternoon.

01:37:27.000 And so, yeah.

01:37:28.960 When you made the 30 million, what was it?

01:37:30.440 They bought your catalog?

01:37:31.840 No, that was a deal that I did.

01:37:33.520 I did a long-term.

01:37:34.820 A touring deal?

01:37:35.580 Yeah.

01:37:36.080 Wow.

01:37:36.500 Yeah.

01:37:36.640 Yeah.

01:37:36.780 And on top of that, I re-upped with my Def Jam, with Def Jam, cause now I'm independent,

01:37:41.420 but I re-upped with Def Jam and they gave me some nice M's as well.

01:37:45.600 And it was all like within a week of each other.

01:37:47.500 Oh.

01:37:48.060 Yeah.

01:37:48.280 Which is crazy.

01:37:48.740 Did you get one eight ball even?

01:37:50.480 No.

01:37:51.220 Yeah.

01:37:51.420 I've never done, I've never done Coke.

01:37:52.860 Really?

01:37:53.280 I've never done anything hard.

01:37:54.320 My God, boy, I'll fucking do it for you.

01:37:58.040 All right.

01:37:59.120 I will.

01:37:59.620 If you need somebody to just tag me in, dude.

01:38:01.520 So wait, are you sober?

01:38:02.940 Yeah.

01:38:03.800 I got 10 months right now.

01:38:05.120 Wow.

01:38:06.160 So...

01:38:06.480 Is it hard?

01:38:08.860 What's hard for me is if I think about women sometimes, that's my trigger.

01:38:13.180 It's women, it's affection, that's my trigger.

01:38:15.420 That would make me do drugs.

01:38:17.100 And I don't drink because I'm afraid I would buy cocaine.

01:38:19.940 I don't have a drinking problem.

01:38:21.480 I don't even like drinking.

01:38:22.300 I don't like peeing that much.

01:38:24.760 I don't.

01:38:25.560 It's so dumb.

01:38:26.340 Oh my God.

01:38:27.240 I like how it feels a little bit, cause it feels almost kind of like, not homoerotic,

01:38:32.160 but I feel like it's like...

01:38:33.320 You're wild.

01:38:34.540 It almost feels like, kind of like pervy, like you're making your own weather and it

01:38:38.360 feels like you're touching your wiener at the same time or whatever.

01:38:40.760 Right.

01:38:41.060 But I don't think it like, I don't like, it doesn't, it's bores me after a while.

01:38:48.280 It's like, I don't want to be doing this.

01:38:49.440 I would rather do something else that I haven't done before.

01:38:51.500 Honestly, that's how I feel.

01:38:52.420 Cause I quit.

01:38:52.960 I smoked cigarettes since I was 11 and I smoked cigarettes.

01:38:55.480 What?

01:38:55.720 Yeah.

01:38:55.940 I smoked cigarettes from 11.

01:38:57.360 That's the Baltimore national anthem, isn't it?

01:38:59.000 Smoking fucking cigarettes when you're 11?

01:39:01.020 Newport's at that.

01:39:01.960 Oh God, bro.

01:39:02.620 Dude, I would smoke cigarettes with my mom.

01:39:04.600 Like a glass long Bobby over here, dog.

01:39:06.100 I would smoke cigarettes with my mother.

01:39:08.220 Dang, bro.

01:39:08.560 I remember when I was, I was 11 years old and I was like, I'll never forget this.

01:39:13.280 I was watching Fresh Prince and I'm sitting on the carpet, dusty ass carpet.

01:39:17.380 There's two roaches fucking each other.

01:39:18.840 Oh yeah.

01:39:19.280 Mom's in the, in the kitchen making, you know, bologna and shit.

01:39:22.820 And I'm like, mom, I got to tell you something.

01:39:25.420 She's like, what?

01:39:27.120 And I'm like, you're not going to like it.

01:39:28.480 And she's like, oh my God, did you get someone pregnant?

01:39:31.620 And I'm shooting ghost loads.

01:39:32.900 I'm 11.

01:39:33.400 It's like, no.

01:39:34.440 And I'm like, no.

01:39:35.420 And she's like, did you, are you in trouble with the police?

01:39:38.980 And I was like, no.

01:39:39.960 She was like, are you doing drugs?

01:39:42.620 I'm like, no.

01:39:43.960 And she's like, oh my God.

01:39:46.160 What's next?

01:39:47.680 Are you smoking cigarettes?

01:39:49.280 And I'm like, bitch, you smoke.

01:39:51.420 What the fuck?

01:39:52.500 So she's like, yeah.

01:39:53.320 And then a week later, like, and what she didn't know.

01:39:55.420 And I told her this, I was like, bitch, for like the last like year, as we've been walking

01:39:58.920 to the bus stop, I just, you flick your shit and I just grab it.

01:40:01.440 Grab it.

01:40:01.840 Oh, it's hilarious.

01:40:02.900 Yeah.

01:40:03.000 And then we would smoke together.

01:40:03.880 Anyway.

01:40:04.180 So I did that from.

01:40:04.720 What a great scene in a movie or something.

01:40:06.740 You're seeing a young kid walk his mouth.

01:40:08.840 She's not even paying attention to him.

01:40:10.060 She's in her own world.

01:40:10.700 She flicks a cigarette.

01:40:11.580 He fucking grabs it.

01:40:12.460 He just continues talking to her.

01:40:13.740 I should put that in something.

01:40:16.360 Yeah.

01:40:16.740 So I smoked till I was 25.

01:40:17.800 And then I quit for three years.

01:40:19.380 Like a secondhand son, you know?

01:40:21.180 Secondhand son.

01:40:24.560 And then I quit last year because I then did the vapes.

01:40:26.980 And you were smoking real sick when you got into vapes, huh?

01:40:28.860 I got into vapes.

01:40:29.580 So I quit at 25 for three years.

01:40:31.520 And then at 28, I got into vapes because of my buddy, Shwy, fucking asshole.

01:40:34.620 And then, and then last year I went on tour with Wiz Khalifa.

01:40:39.820 And I was like, I can't fucking be smoking.

01:40:42.740 I got to stop.

01:40:43.320 So I did a cold turkey and bro, I was like sweating bullets.

01:40:46.500 Yeah, it's so hard.

01:40:47.200 And fucking like jolting out of bed, like jolting out of sleep.

01:40:49.900 It was, it was crazy.

01:40:50.820 But it's like destroyed my anxiety.

01:40:53.240 Like all that nicotine, I didn't realize how much anxiety it was giving me that.

01:40:57.200 And then on top of fucking being hung over.

01:40:59.100 And then, so once I just really kicked back on the, on the alcohol, stopped the nicotine

01:41:03.980 and just smoked a hell of a lot more weight, I just feel great.

01:41:07.040 I fucking ran two miles today before I got here.

01:41:08.840 Nice, dude.

01:41:09.280 I just been, yeah.

01:41:10.200 I did some yoga before I came today.

01:41:11.680 Vibe.

01:41:12.040 I need to stretch.

01:41:12.680 But I do think that, yeah, that nicotine's so bad, bro.

01:41:15.860 The hardest thing I've been having to do is quit vaping.

01:41:19.040 This is why I brought this up was because we, you were talking about if you get drunk,

01:41:23.300 you might want to do an eight ball or something like that because it's like, ah, that those

01:41:26.500 inhibitions kind of go out and you're like, fuck it, let's go.

01:41:29.020 That's how I feel.

01:41:29.860 Bro, I was in the studio last night and I was like, man, I kind of want to, I kind of

01:41:33.660 want a cigarette.

01:41:34.280 Like my friends are smoking cigarettes and everybody's vaping.

01:41:36.200 My fucking new assistant, Jaden, he's, he's just like.

01:41:38.720 He's vaping?

01:41:39.340 He's fucking vaping and shit.

01:41:40.500 Oh, he's fired.

01:41:42.800 No, no.

01:41:43.620 But I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck?

01:41:45.380 And I stayed strong.

01:41:46.420 Yeah.

01:41:46.720 Because I remember the feeling of like, I don't want to do this anymore.

01:41:51.040 Like this shit sucks.

01:41:52.680 You know where you just, whether it's cigarettes or vaping and you just do it and do it and

01:41:56.220 do it.

01:41:56.440 And then it's really just like, ugh, like I'm not getting that hit anymore.

01:42:00.340 That thing.

01:42:01.000 Yeah.

01:42:01.400 I'm just doing, it's almost like I'm a fucking robot or something.

01:42:05.600 The saddest thing for me to think about is when I leave here today, what choice am I

01:42:09.780 going to make?

01:42:10.100 Am I going to get in my car and stop at the vape shop?

01:42:12.500 They don't even sell the ones I like anymore.

01:42:14.400 So now I'm down to doing some like third string vape, some fucking, you know, it's like,

01:42:20.560 it's, this vape would never start for any team, you know, and I'm going to, but am I

01:42:26.160 going to go buy that, you know, and get like muffin ice or some fucking shit?

01:42:30.960 I'd almost rather smoke a cigarette.

01:42:32.740 Yeah.

01:42:33.080 Cause I'm going to hit it two times and all I'm going to do is I'm going to feel so bad

01:42:36.180 about myself.

01:42:36.780 How about when the juice is just like, you ever get the juice where it's like in your

01:42:39.680 mouth and shit and it's gross?

01:42:41.180 Did you ever Juul?

01:42:42.320 No, I don't Juul.

01:42:43.280 Oh, that was my shit.

01:42:44.180 I used to fucking just Juul that shit.

01:42:47.100 Juuling's gross.

01:42:47.980 No, Juuling was just fucking like crack, man.

01:42:50.680 God.

01:42:50.980 So good.

01:42:51.860 But I'm glad I said, I never smoked crack.

01:42:54.080 You didn't?

01:42:54.500 Well, I mean, I'm a crack baby.

01:42:56.600 Was one of your parents on crack when you were conceived, you think?

01:42:59.380 Yeah.

01:42:59.780 I told you that.

01:43:00.720 They met at a crack house, Theo.

01:43:02.280 Fuck yeah.

01:43:03.580 That's cool, dude.

01:43:04.620 That's so cool, man.

01:43:05.300 I met a girl at a subway once, but not the same, but we both had a fucking little bit

01:43:10.320 of sandwich in us and she gave me a Beej.

01:43:13.860 You know?

01:43:15.560 Yeah, right.

01:43:16.040 What about, did you ever see any crack around the house or no?

01:43:19.900 Yeah, of course, bro.

01:43:20.660 Really?

01:43:20.980 Yeah, my, one of my, my, yeah, my sister's, my sister's boyfriend at the time showed me

01:43:27.700 how to cook crack in the house.

01:43:29.840 What do you do?

01:43:30.580 Like, how do you make a good crack?

01:43:32.100 I'm going to be honest, bro.

01:43:32.920 This was like 10 years ago.

01:43:33.920 It was one time.

01:43:35.480 He just had the shit on the stove.

01:43:37.200 He had the actual, he had the Coke and he fucking mixed it with some shit and some fucking

01:43:40.880 bacon powder and put it on the thing.

01:43:42.220 He was like, okay, now grab the fucking, it was like in a jar, in a mason jar.

01:43:45.760 He's like, okay, grab that shit.

01:43:47.640 And he like gave me these like mittens and I put the mittens on.

01:43:50.580 He's like, now pour it and do all this fucking shit.

01:43:52.720 And meanwhile, we're not wearing masks or anything.

01:43:56.000 And this fucking shit.

01:43:56.900 Yeah, but you're not wearing masks.

01:43:57.760 You're in a crack house, dude.

01:43:59.500 Jesus.

01:44:00.520 This is an MIT, bro.

01:44:05.600 Yeah.

01:44:06.320 And then it's like billowing upstairs through the vents where there's like little children

01:44:10.920 sleeping.

01:44:11.240 Yeah, I'd be up there sleeping with them.

01:44:13.040 Yeah.

01:44:13.240 Not with them, but.

01:44:14.240 Oh shit.

01:44:14.720 I'd be in a crib up there for sure, dude.

01:44:16.780 Chill, chill, bro.

01:44:17.760 God, that's gotta be nice.

01:44:20.000 I never got to smoke crack, man.

01:44:21.940 I always wanted to.

01:44:22.740 Isn't that crazy?

01:44:23.800 I always wanted to fucking.

01:44:24.720 What do you mean you never got to?

01:44:26.300 You sound like me talking about the Grammys.

01:44:28.820 Like I got nominated.

01:44:29.960 I went there.

01:44:30.440 I fucking lost to Bruno Mars.

01:44:32.100 I never did it, but I like really wanted it.

01:44:34.220 Yeah.

01:44:34.880 What the fuck?

01:44:36.000 What?

01:44:36.280 I feel like that would, yeah, I would, you know, you always just imagine the fucking flame

01:44:41.280 hitting around that rock and you being on the receiving end of it.

01:44:44.560 It's like Leo in a fucking Wolf of Wall Street.

01:44:47.660 You ever see that?

01:44:48.020 He's like, yo, smoke this crack with me.

01:44:49.760 He's like, all right, fuck it.

01:44:51.420 And they do it.

01:44:52.000 That's what it's like.

01:44:52.580 Bro, I've seen my dad.

01:44:53.340 I remember one of my, when my dad was 18 and now he's, he claims that since then he hasn't

01:44:58.460 smoked crack.

01:45:00.980 Okay.

01:45:01.700 But I know he's definitely had some good, some good years where he's been, he was clean,

01:45:07.220 is clean.

01:45:07.640 I don't fucking know.

01:45:08.160 Whatever.

01:45:08.360 I still got to text this motherfucker back.

01:45:09.620 I got him on red.

01:45:10.320 This nigga man.

01:45:11.340 Is it weird not to communicate with him much?

01:45:13.700 Let's see what he, let's see what the last thing he said.

01:45:15.660 Is it, I mean, yeah.

01:45:18.520 Do you really feel like a connection to him or do you have to create a connection with him?

01:45:22.440 Whoa.

01:45:24.300 This motherfucker just sent me the craziest picture of my.

01:45:28.940 That y'all's family?

01:45:30.220 I think so.

01:45:31.140 He just sent, he sent this to me with no fucking context.

01:45:33.560 Yeah.

01:45:33.840 That's.

01:45:35.560 Whoa.

01:45:36.340 What the fuck?

01:45:37.780 Anyway.

01:45:38.480 Um, oh my God.

01:45:40.380 Is he a grandfather?

01:45:41.480 No, I think that's my fucking dad right there.

01:45:43.520 That really light skinned motherfucker, light skin looking motherfucker right there.

01:45:46.180 At the top?

01:45:47.060 On the left?

01:45:47.500 Yeah, washed out with the, with the afro.

01:45:48.700 Let me see that shit.

01:45:49.540 Dang, dude.

01:45:50.380 That guy looks like a wolf on the bottom right.

01:45:54.540 He does.

01:45:55.020 Wow, dude.

01:45:56.860 That's crazy.

01:45:57.620 Let me tell, I'm gonna text him right now and be like, what the fuck picture is this?

01:46:00.100 Yeah, who is this?

01:46:00.740 It looks like the Jackson 7s.

01:46:05.420 Um, yeah, so, uh.

01:46:07.100 That's crazy, dude.

01:46:08.340 I wish half my family was fucking black, dog.

01:46:10.420 It's dope.

01:46:10.960 It's a vibe.

01:46:11.700 I really love it.

01:46:12.440 Yeah, because it would seem like, man, let's see what's going on in here.

01:46:15.600 Yeah.

01:46:16.040 Culturally, it's really cool, man.

01:46:17.580 It's like, I love, I love being black.

01:46:20.080 I'm gonna, I'm gonna be real.

01:46:21.320 Dude, I remember we'd go to black funerals, dog.

01:46:23.440 God.

01:46:25.640 It was just fucking crazy.

01:46:26.540 She'd be jumping.

01:46:27.380 Oh.

01:46:28.080 It sucks and it's hard and afterward, everybody's turning the fuck up.

01:46:30.980 I'd be hugging some big black, I don't even fucking know her brother's crying into her tits.

01:46:34.780 Oh my God.

01:46:35.980 Wait, what black funeral were you at?

01:46:38.200 Just when I was growing up, a lot of people would die in our area and they were black.

01:46:42.780 And so, we'd go to the funerals and, uh, it was just sad, you know?

01:46:48.720 Like, some kid shot himself in the head.

01:46:51.040 Oh, that's deep.

01:46:51.640 I hope it was, you know, I'm assuming a closed casket.

01:46:54.820 Yeah.

01:46:55.860 I'm pretty sure.

01:46:56.580 I don't remember.

01:46:57.020 I mean, I'm sure it was.

01:46:58.040 I didn't, I don't think at that age I went up there.

01:47:00.080 That'd have been wild.

01:47:00.620 But the other kid, this other kid died on the bat playing basketball.

01:47:05.260 What else?

01:47:06.920 People were dying in our area a decent amount.

01:47:11.260 Question.

01:47:11.860 Yeah.

01:47:12.200 One kid got bit by a bat, I remember, and got some type of encephalitis.

01:47:15.180 You're fucking joking.

01:47:15.940 I swear to God.

01:47:16.500 A kid got bit by a bat?

01:47:18.440 Oh, yeah.

01:47:18.980 Look up a bat disease.

01:47:20.220 What is it?

01:47:20.640 What is this?

01:47:21.040 COVID?

01:47:22.060 20?

01:47:22.340 No, this was, no, this was old school.

01:47:24.360 This was bat to human direct.

01:47:25.940 This wasn't this fucking roundabout through CNN shit.

01:47:29.100 What is this?

01:47:29.120 Rabies can spread?

01:47:30.060 Okay, what?

01:47:30.500 So, he died of rabies?

01:47:31.720 Bats after minor C.

01:47:32.800 Looks like it's rabies.

01:47:34.080 Yeah.

01:47:34.880 Or whatever they call it.

01:47:35.840 But how did he not go get checked?

01:47:37.340 Oh, y'all are in the hood, right?

01:47:38.660 Well, no, but he was getting checked.

01:47:40.000 They didn't have fucking, they weren't getting checked then.

01:47:42.080 There weren't, yeah.

01:47:43.240 People would pray over him and somebody would, you know.

01:47:45.560 Oh, my God.

01:47:46.180 Don't get me fucking started on that shit.

01:47:47.860 My mom, she was so, like, insane religious.

01:47:51.000 Like, she's so hypocritical.

01:47:52.880 She's like, don't you take the Lord's name in vain, god damn it, motherfucker.

01:47:55.900 Like, that's my mom, bro.

01:47:57.360 That's awesome, dude.

01:47:58.840 I love your reactions.

01:48:00.800 But, yeah, no, it's a, it was a weird thing to say.

01:48:05.400 Do you miss the anarchy of that kind of stuff?

01:48:07.460 Of course not.

01:48:07.980 No.

01:48:08.260 I'm not fucking sick.

01:48:09.900 You know, like, sick people miss that shit.

01:48:12.460 And I was.

01:48:13.220 And I had to break that cycle.

01:48:15.620 Like, bro, there's times when my phone, like, my phone's in another room and I'm just sitting

01:48:20.600 somewhere and I'm alone, like, I'm talking to my wife, I'm hanging with my baby, I'm on

01:48:24.280 a call, I'm on this, I'm on that.

01:48:25.500 And then everything stops and I'm like, because I'm, and I have to tell myself, I grew up in

01:48:34.600 such chaos that I find peace boring.

01:48:41.160 That's fucked up.

01:48:42.240 Like, that's deep.

01:48:43.400 And I had to learn that.

01:48:45.260 So when I think about, like, women I would date and there would be, like, drama and, you

01:48:49.880 know, she's like, what the fuck?

01:48:50.700 You don't know me.

01:48:51.280 You're like, what are you talking about?

01:48:52.020 Like, all this shit.

01:48:52.660 And I'm like, yes, bitch.

01:48:54.840 Like, I'm so used to that because my mom, like, man, I remember my mom threw this fucking

01:48:58.900 crazy ass, like, it was like a metal container for pens and it sliced my stepdad's fucking

01:49:05.760 skull open and his brains and it was like the craziest shit.

01:49:08.500 And then she got locked up and then I was living with him, but he wouldn't let me leave

01:49:13.160 and it was like the craziest shit.

01:49:14.660 And then, oh man, he had like desert eagles, he'd be shooting at the cops and he fucking would

01:49:18.800 take me on as Harley Davidson.

01:49:20.200 It's the craziest shit, but between that and, like, fights and arguments, I mean, we had

01:49:23.280 these fucking weirdos that were like the Manson family that, like, stayed with us and then

01:49:26.840 they ended up killing their baby and it was just, like, the wildest shit.

01:49:30.340 So as I got older, you know, when I'm meeting, like, hey, my name's Samantha, my parents are

01:49:37.340 in law and I'm like, bitch, you're too boring for me.

01:49:39.900 I need some, I need you to stab me, bitch.

01:49:41.940 Beat me up.

01:49:42.620 Like, you know what I mean?

01:49:43.220 Get a fucking sword out of your car.

01:49:44.700 Like, that's what I felt I needed.

01:49:47.720 And then I had to break that cycle and realize, like, no, like, that's just because that's

01:49:51.760 how you grew up.

01:49:52.320 But most people don't realize that.

01:49:53.900 Like, my sister, I won't say which one.

01:49:57.080 She gonna be mad as fuck.

01:49:58.400 I'm talking to my sister one day and she's like, she's like, yeah, she's like, yeah,

01:50:02.280 Bob, I'm seeing this guy.

01:50:03.960 I think he's the one.

01:50:04.920 I'm like, oh, word, for real?

01:50:06.600 You know, she got, like, a bunch of kids, all different baby daddies.

01:50:09.820 And I'm like, okay.

01:50:11.920 So he's the one.

01:50:12.660 She's like, yeah, he treats me so good.

01:50:14.300 I love him.

01:50:15.080 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:50:15.900 And I'm like, that's dope.

01:50:16.920 How'd y'all meet?

01:50:17.420 She's like, well, actually, I've known him since I was, like, 15.

01:50:20.580 I'm like, damn, man, he sounds like a good dude.

01:50:22.060 He's treating you good?

01:50:22.740 She's like, yeah.

01:50:23.260 I'm like, what does he do?

01:50:24.260 She's like, what?

01:50:25.900 I'm like, what does he do for a living?

01:50:27.000 What does he do?

01:50:27.640 Oh, you know, bitch, what?

01:50:30.640 Speak up.

01:50:31.080 What does he do?

01:50:32.080 She's like, oh, you know, he's just in life for prison for murder.

01:50:34.260 I'm like, bitch, what?

01:50:40.120 Like, for real, bro.

01:50:41.520 For real.

01:50:42.300 I'm like, you, wait, hold up.

01:50:44.360 You found the one?

01:50:45.520 She's like, yeah, we're going to get married.

01:50:46.440 He treats me so good.

01:50:47.500 I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

01:50:49.020 Go to Starbucks, man.

01:50:50.280 Why don't you get you a good man?

01:50:51.440 You know what she says to me?

01:50:52.820 She goes, I just love thug niggas.

01:50:55.360 Damn, bro.

01:50:57.060 And I'm like, girl, I love you with all my heart, but you got to figure this shit out.

01:51:01.800 Am I right?

01:51:02.500 And I'm like, damn, that's so deep.

01:51:05.780 And she's like, yeah, it's crazy.

01:51:06.860 I love her, though.

01:51:07.520 She's, I mean.

01:51:08.460 Sometimes you want to love something that can't love you, you know?

01:51:11.980 If it's a thug, you know, I think if sometimes thugs, no matter what, I mean, no matter who

01:51:15.700 they are, I wonder if they have a tough time loving people, you know?

01:51:19.320 Like, I wonder if that's what she means by that.

01:51:21.120 Yeah, but also women will be like.

01:51:22.960 Yeah, they want to murder her, bro.

01:51:24.160 I'm telling you, women want to be fucking murdered, dog.

01:51:27.180 And any woman that says she don't, man, I think she's on one.

01:51:30.540 I just never understand.

01:51:31.680 They love all the murder shows, you know?

01:51:34.020 Oh, look at Tiffany got hacked up, and they'll be texting their friend, oh, that bitch, you

01:51:38.720 know?

01:51:39.260 Like, damn, bro.

01:51:41.480 Fucking R.I.P., dog.

01:51:43.040 Tiffany ain't even cold, and y'all fucking jealous.

01:51:46.000 Oh, my God.

01:51:47.260 Because her husband fucking worked for Cutco or whatever.

01:51:49.780 Oh, my God.

01:51:50.460 But it's crazy.

01:51:51.460 People, they want that, they want a commitment from man, even if it's fucking.

01:51:55.940 Yeah, but they also want to like, why bitches be wanting to change a man?

01:51:58.800 Can we just talk about that?

01:52:00.040 A bitch want to change a man, and she'd do it.

01:52:03.220 You know, he'd be like, he'd be like, whatever.

01:52:04.740 And she's like, she could take a motherfucker and just change this about him.

01:52:08.480 And she's like, if you want to be with me, you got to change this other thing, too.

01:52:10.940 And he's like, all right, girl.

01:52:11.880 And he's trying to better himself.

01:52:13.280 And she's like, oh, you're going to have to change that, too.

01:52:15.220 And then a year goes by, he's a fucking brand new man.

01:52:17.640 And she's like, it's over.

01:52:19.040 He's like, what, bitch?

01:52:19.920 She's like, you changed.

01:52:22.060 Yeah, yeah.

01:52:22.820 Am I right?

01:52:23.540 Yeah.

01:52:24.520 Nah.

01:52:24.920 She's like, why you got a top hat on?

01:52:26.560 You're like.

01:52:27.540 Looking like Mr. Peanut.

01:52:28.780 Yeah, you fucking bought it from me.

01:52:30.900 Oh, man.

01:52:31.500 Anyway.

01:52:31.900 How did you know when you met your wife that that was it, man?

01:52:34.720 Was that hard?

01:52:35.820 Was that a weird thing?

01:52:36.600 It was definitely hard.

01:52:37.920 You know what I'm saying?

01:52:38.520 My shit was.

01:52:39.300 Because you were, I'm sure you was easy to date.

01:52:41.000 Oh, I thought we was talking about my dick.

01:52:42.940 Oh.

01:52:44.220 Anyway.

01:52:46.920 Truth be told.

01:52:48.040 Yeah.

01:52:48.360 How did you know, like, this is the one for you?

01:52:50.040 I found my wife.

01:52:51.580 I walked in to a store three days after I got separated from my previous wife.

01:52:57.780 And I saw this girl.

01:52:59.540 And I thought she was, like, 24 or something.

01:53:01.540 I was 28 at the time.

01:53:02.620 She was 19.

01:53:03.320 I didn't know this.

01:53:04.120 That's all right, man.

01:53:05.140 Yeah.

01:53:05.460 And we had a, she worked at a smoothie shop.

01:53:08.300 Oh, God.

01:53:09.120 I fucking love that.

01:53:10.080 Bro.

01:53:10.400 And she was grinding.

01:53:11.220 She's busting her ass.

01:53:11.920 She's in college.

01:53:12.540 She's doing all this other shit.

01:53:14.340 And, yeah, man.

01:53:15.400 She was really just super duper sweet.

01:53:17.700 And I went back to the same smoothie shop every, every, every day for two weeks.

01:53:21.940 And she wasn't there.

01:53:22.900 Oh.

01:53:23.860 And I was, like, writing music about her, like a fucking creep.

01:53:26.340 And I was, like, just, like, was so inspired.

01:53:28.280 Like, I don't know.

01:53:28.720 She was just so beautiful.

01:53:29.660 She was breathtaking.

01:53:30.540 So I go back every day.

01:53:32.580 In the morning and in the night in case.

01:53:34.560 Which shift?

01:53:35.060 I don't know.

01:53:35.660 And then I go.

01:53:37.320 And I'm, like, befriending, like, all the, oh, and there's a bunch of bad bitches that

01:53:40.380 work there.

01:53:40.740 And they all think I'm coming to see them.

01:53:43.080 Oh, that's crazy, bro.

01:53:44.560 And I'm, like, I'm not coming to see y'all.

01:53:45.840 It's, like, for real.

01:53:46.520 And then, like, yo, it was crazy.

01:53:48.260 Like, and I remember the manager was this gay dude.

01:53:50.420 And he was leaving.

01:53:51.320 Oh, now he trying to smash, too.

01:53:53.400 Now, I bought him some chocolates.

01:53:55.620 Because he was leaving.

01:53:56.480 Oh, I'm sure, bro.

01:53:57.260 So I was, like, I was just, like, I'm going to be the nicest motherfucker.

01:53:59.660 I mean, I am a nice guy.

01:54:00.780 But I was, like, I'm going to be extra.

01:54:01.800 So she's hearing about me.

01:54:03.140 And she was.

01:54:04.380 And she, everybody thought I was there to see, like, a different bitch.

01:54:07.140 But, like, she didn't know.

01:54:08.060 And then if she finally, bro, two weeks go by.

01:54:10.320 And I was, like, all right, I'm giving up.

01:54:11.460 I go there one night.

01:54:12.400 And she wasn't there.

01:54:13.040 And I was, like, I got to take a piss.

01:54:14.000 I go take a piss.

01:54:14.820 I walk out.

01:54:15.820 And I go to pay for my shit.

01:54:16.820 And I just hear, hey, Bobby.

01:54:18.120 And I turn around.

01:54:19.000 And it was this fucking angel.

01:54:21.520 And I was, like, oh, my God.

01:54:23.060 This is it.

01:54:23.500 And my heart was just beating out of my chest.

01:54:25.760 Like, bro.

01:54:26.420 Like, fucking crazy.

01:54:27.580 For real.

01:54:27.840 And it's, like, man, I'd gone through a lot, man.

01:54:29.700 And I just fucking, I'm getting publicly divorced.

01:54:32.040 And just all this crazy shit.

01:54:33.700 And it's just so difficult.

01:54:34.660 And here's this, like, angel.

01:54:36.000 And so I'm talking to her.

01:54:37.900 And she's so fucking cool.

01:54:38.900 Did you have a visor on?

01:54:40.440 A what?

01:54:40.900 Like a smooth, like some of a smoothie place to make you wear that visor.

01:54:43.740 Did she?

01:54:44.260 A visor, yeah.

01:54:44.860 Fuck no.

01:54:45.420 She was looking bad as shit.

01:54:46.580 Had her hair all parted.

01:54:47.500 She wasn't looking stupid.

01:54:48.560 Oh, yeah.

01:54:48.960 And then she's in fucking leggings.

01:54:50.920 And I was, like, oh, my God.

01:54:52.900 I'm talking to her.

01:54:53.780 And then she's just so sweet.

01:54:55.000 And she's just talking to me.

01:54:55.980 And I'm telling her about things I have going on.

01:54:57.680 And she's, like, that's so cool.

01:54:58.880 You know, sometimes me and my boyfriend.

01:55:01.380 No.

01:55:01.880 And I was, like, fuck, bro.

01:55:03.480 This sounds like a piece of shit.

01:55:04.900 Yo, literally, I was, like, yo, this fucking sucks, man.

01:55:07.420 What the fuck?

01:55:08.020 You got a boyfriend?

01:55:08.680 But I didn't say it like that.

01:55:09.440 I was, like, no way.

01:55:11.620 That's so tight.

01:55:13.180 Like, what's his name?

01:55:15.060 What's his fucking name, bitch?

01:55:17.460 You better tell me his fucking name right now.

01:55:19.220 You can't even hear his name?

01:55:21.080 Oh, I don't know.

01:55:21.780 Yeah.

01:55:22.120 It's a whole thing.

01:55:22.940 So she says this shit.

01:55:24.360 And then.

01:55:24.680 Oh, I'm glad.

01:55:25.980 So then I come back.

01:55:27.680 I come back, like, a week.

01:55:30.340 Or, no, a couple days later.

01:55:31.500 And I see her again.

01:55:32.500 And what happened?

01:55:33.380 And I was just, like, I was just talking to her.

01:55:36.100 I was, like, telling her about all these cool new things happening in my life.

01:55:38.460 Oh, yeah, definitely.

01:55:39.200 And I was just, like, man, like, we should be friends.

01:55:42.160 And she's, like, we are friends.

01:55:43.720 No, no.

01:55:44.120 She was, like, yeah, for sure.

01:55:45.100 And I had this whole.

01:55:45.780 You don't understand.

01:55:46.240 Like, I'm not joking.

01:55:46.800 I, like, rehearsed for 48 hours the whole conversation.

01:55:50.720 How it was going to go.

01:55:51.920 How I was going to get her number.

01:55:54.080 Oh, my God.

01:55:54.740 And then play the long waiting game.

01:55:56.780 Because she was worth it.

01:55:57.760 You know, like, I was, like, okay, we're going to wait.

01:56:00.020 We're going to figure this out.

01:56:00.780 Yeah.

01:56:00.900 So I had this whole thing.

01:56:02.700 And I was, like, we should be friends.

01:56:04.200 And then I start to do my spiel.

01:56:05.700 She's, like, yeah, I could just give you my number.

01:56:07.540 And I was, like, oh, my God.

01:56:08.720 I didn't even have to do.

01:56:09.880 I didn't have to do anything.

01:56:11.020 So I'm, like, okay, cool.

01:56:11.900 So I get her number.

01:56:12.720 And when did you text her, dude?

01:56:14.100 I fucking texted her that night.

01:56:15.440 What?

01:56:15.780 I don't give a fuck.

01:56:16.860 Dude, you're going to fuck it up.

01:56:17.660 No, I put my dick on the table, bro.

01:56:19.380 I'm not scared of shit.

01:56:20.360 You be you 100%.

01:56:21.480 And they're either going to accept you and love you for who you are.

01:56:23.780 Or they're fucking not.

01:56:24.560 They're not.

01:56:25.260 And that's what I'm saying.

01:56:26.080 No, it's a real.

01:56:26.600 I mean, they're not for you, maybe.

01:56:28.940 I.

01:56:29.900 Yeah.

01:56:30.360 You got to be yourself, bro.

01:56:32.440 Like, be you in a fucking relationship.

01:56:33.840 That's why it's so bullshit when two people get together on a fucking date.

01:56:37.280 And they're not.

01:56:37.980 They're lying.

01:56:39.020 They're being them.

01:56:39.780 Like, I'll be on a first date.

01:56:40.800 I'll be like, damn, bitch.

01:56:41.540 I just ripped ass in the bathroom.

01:56:43.440 Wow.

01:56:43.780 I'm like, that's who I am.

01:56:44.820 I'm like, me and my wife on our first date.

01:56:46.880 I was like, I'm not in a weird way.

01:56:49.200 I was just like, do you want children one day?

01:56:51.060 She was like, yeah.

01:56:51.880 I was like, oh, dope.

01:56:52.480 Do you see yourself getting married?

01:56:54.140 Da, da, da.

01:56:54.460 I'm like, what's up?

01:56:55.600 You super religious?

01:56:56.580 She's like, no.

01:56:57.480 I believe in something.

01:56:58.680 Like, energy is something.

01:56:59.680 Yeah.

01:57:00.120 I'm like, okay.

01:57:00.780 I ask those important questions because most people don't.

01:57:03.500 And then five years fucking later, they're getting divorced because they never talked

01:57:05.700 about them in the first place.

01:57:06.620 Yeah.

01:57:06.740 So anyway, I get her numbers.

01:57:08.180 And her wife's fucking rubbing a gemstone on her vulva.

01:57:12.480 But yeah, they get weird like that.

01:57:14.280 So dude, so you knew and how long after that did you get engaged?

01:57:17.520 Well, the crazy thing is super duper long story short, I created this like fake release

01:57:24.040 party for a mixtape called Bobby Tarantino 2 that just so happened to be on St. Patrick's

01:57:28.200 Day, but it was really basically the Great Gatsby.

01:57:30.140 Are you familiar with the Great Gatsby?

01:57:31.720 So I created this whole party just to invite this bitch.

01:57:34.080 Westig.

01:57:34.820 Yeah.

01:57:35.020 With all her friends.

01:57:37.800 And then she ends up bringing her boyfriend.

01:57:39.560 No.

01:57:40.260 Yeah.

01:57:40.620 It was crazy.

01:57:41.500 So she brings her boyfriend and the dude comes in and he's like, oh, Roger, can I have

01:57:46.160 a picture with you?

01:57:47.220 And immediately I was like.

01:57:48.400 No way.

01:57:48.680 He's Swedish.

01:57:50.280 Is that Swedish?

01:57:51.640 Did I just do Sweden?

01:57:52.660 I think so.

01:57:53.160 No, Sweden's like this, yeah.

01:57:54.880 Or is that more German?

01:57:56.020 I don't know.

01:57:56.780 Whatever.

01:57:57.180 I'm not good with fucking.

01:57:58.280 I mean, like if I do an Irish, when I do Irish, I sound kind of Jamaican at the same

01:58:02.660 time when I do Irishman.

01:58:03.780 Yeah.

01:58:04.340 Anyway, fucking whatever, bro.

01:58:05.440 Love it.

01:58:06.060 Long story short, she didn't stay with that guy.

01:58:10.000 Wow.

01:58:10.640 But how long did it take?

01:58:12.200 And were you low-key flirting with her?

01:58:13.640 What was happening?

01:58:14.680 I flirted with her, but she never flirted back.

01:58:16.740 Wow.

01:58:17.180 That was beautiful.

01:58:18.240 Yeah.

01:58:18.380 Because I was like, bitch, I want to take you on a private helicopter to San Diego.

01:58:21.620 And shit.

01:58:21.780 Like, at the party, I'm like playing, I'm playing pool.

01:58:24.920 I was like, no, I'm not like, what'd you mean, murderer?

01:58:27.840 That's gangster.

01:58:28.940 Yeah, you're right.

01:58:29.340 My bad, dude.

01:58:29.440 What'd you talk about?

01:58:30.220 I wasn't like, yo, you want to go see my fucking rathead collection?

01:58:33.340 What the fuck?

01:58:34.640 What'd you mean, murderer?

01:58:36.540 Hey, bitch, you want to go to private jet?

01:58:38.080 What the fuck?

01:58:38.820 You're right.

01:58:39.220 My bad, my bad.

01:58:39.840 All right.

01:58:40.080 Anyway.

01:58:40.500 Yeah, you're right, you're right.

01:58:42.280 But yeah, I was definitely flirting with her a little bit, but I was respectful.

01:58:44.860 I wasn't like, fuck this dweeb.

01:58:46.700 Like, it wasn't like.

01:58:47.420 Right, right.

01:58:47.840 And then she just like, I, they just.

01:58:50.920 That happened.

01:58:51.440 She just saw a man.

01:58:52.320 I'm going to be real.

01:58:52.900 She was dating a boy.

01:58:54.320 They fucking went to high school together and shit.

01:58:55.640 And then she saw a man and was like, what's good?

01:58:57.380 And that's a, and that's a real thing.

01:58:58.780 It's like, whatever.

01:59:01.720 Eight months later, we were engaged.

01:59:04.480 She was, she got, I knocked her up in like May.

01:59:08.740 We were in Tokyo.

01:59:10.060 Oh, yeah.

01:59:10.820 When I, when I bought that cultural appropriation kimono.

01:59:14.460 And, and I knocked her up.

01:59:16.500 We had a really bad fight.

01:59:18.480 And then, yeah, it was like so bad.

01:59:20.200 It was like the worst fight we've ever really had.

01:59:21.940 And then I shut that shit down.

01:59:22.980 I was like, this is fucking stupid.

01:59:24.040 We don't need to be doing this shit.

01:59:25.020 We need to respect each other.

01:59:26.140 And if we feel, don't let animosity build.

01:59:28.480 Don't this, don't that.

01:59:29.460 But I told her that the real thing is she was pissed off.

01:59:31.960 Cause we're at some fucking club in Japan.

01:59:34.260 Everybody's wasted.

01:59:35.740 And, um, the, the woman who, who led us through the door, I was just like, oh, there's, there's

01:59:39.620 a pretty dress.

01:59:40.640 Cause I'm just, I'm a gentleman.

01:59:42.020 Like if I see a woman and that's just from being raised around women, like, oh, nice earrings.

01:59:45.760 Like, and my wife knows me, she gets it.

01:59:48.080 Like, but you don't think you'd low key do it for some sort of a return?

01:59:50.940 No, never, never, no.

01:59:51.940 Yeah.

01:59:52.180 Especially with women.

01:59:53.020 Cause for me, women doesn't matter.

01:59:54.480 Like she could be bad.

01:59:55.960 She could be not what you would call, uh, you know, a bad bitch.

02:00:01.040 Like, you know what I mean?

02:00:01.680 Or whatever, just, just a normal looking, whatever the fuck.

02:00:04.700 I don't know.

02:00:05.660 Librarian.

02:00:06.040 Let's keep it a hundred.

02:00:06.820 The bitch could be ugly or she could be fucking a supermodel.

02:00:09.360 Okay.

02:00:09.620 And I will be like, oh, I love your shoes.

02:00:11.360 Or I'll be like, oh, damn.

02:00:12.240 Right, right.

02:00:12.460 Yeah.

02:00:12.660 I'll be like, what?

02:00:13.080 Like your hat.

02:00:13.780 Like your shoulders.

02:00:14.400 Are they gel?

02:00:15.180 Is it gel?

02:00:15.720 Is it acrylic?

02:00:16.200 Right.

02:00:16.380 Like, I don't give a shit.

02:00:17.240 I just like.

02:00:17.640 Like your arms.

02:00:18.560 Yeah.

02:00:18.780 Whatever.

02:00:19.180 Anyway, so she just got mad that I said the bitch had a nice dress.

02:00:22.080 Oh yeah.

02:00:22.480 Women will get upset about that.

02:00:23.320 And I was like, don't you ever bring that shit to me ever fucking again.

02:00:25.780 Wow.

02:00:25.960 Because I was like, I would never fucking do that to you.

02:00:27.600 I don't give a fuck.

02:00:28.420 Like, this is not, whatever.

02:00:29.820 And it was so stupid.

02:00:30.760 And then we argued and I knocked her up.

02:00:32.820 Yeah.

02:00:33.660 And then we got married a couple months later.

02:00:35.080 I'll show you, huh?

02:00:35.680 Yeah.

02:00:35.900 I fucking showed her.

02:00:36.840 Dude, if I'm arguing with somebody, you got to fucking knock them up.

02:00:41.120 That's how most of us got in the world when you think about that.

02:00:43.380 Yeah.

02:00:43.660 I mean, look at my parents.

02:00:45.160 Oh yeah.

02:00:45.720 They were high and on crack and angry and screaming.

02:00:47.740 So you want kids?

02:00:51.060 Well, they made a good creation, man.

02:00:52.680 Do you want children?

02:00:54.060 I do want some children, you know?

02:00:55.500 And I start to get to the point where it's like, yeah, I definitely want to have some children.

02:00:59.260 But also you can't hurry love, man.

02:01:01.060 You got, you know, I like this girl and it didn't work out.

02:01:03.860 And then I was in this other relationship and I couldn't commit.

02:01:06.260 And so I just got to.

02:01:08.240 What if you got like the female equivalent of a sperm donor?

02:01:12.000 What is it?

02:01:12.640 I don't fucking know.

02:01:13.360 A surrogate or some chick you could just knock up and be like, here, take my sperm.

02:01:16.780 And you just, you select.

02:01:18.000 Because women, they do this.

02:01:19.140 They'll select.

02:01:19.620 They'll be like, okay, he's got to be chocolate 6'8".

02:01:22.620 Fucking NBA player.

02:01:24.120 This, that, whatever.

02:01:25.080 And you can like pick what you want.

02:01:26.720 And then that woman could have a child herself.

02:01:29.280 So you could do the same thing.

02:01:30.940 You just get like some super bad, gorgeous woman.

02:01:33.880 And what do you have to do?

02:01:34.880 Do you do sex with them or do you have to drive over there?

02:01:38.840 Definitely not.

02:01:40.040 I don't.

02:01:40.760 It's a little more professional than that.

02:01:42.520 You know what I mean?

02:01:43.520 That would be like the most expensive, craziest escort of all time.

02:01:48.040 It's like a hundred grand, I think, to do something like that.

02:01:50.580 To do what?

02:01:51.280 To get somebody to have your child that you don't know.

02:01:54.160 Really?

02:01:54.840 In America, yeah.

02:01:56.060 Wow.

02:01:56.540 It's like 80 in Mexico, I think.

02:01:58.420 I wouldn't.

02:01:58.680 But you got to go down there.

02:01:59.660 That's going to cost you a couple G.

02:02:00.860 I wouldn't sweat it because like you're already, you're still, you still have like 30 years

02:02:06.100 on when your dad made you.

02:02:07.340 That's a good call.

02:02:07.680 So you got time.

02:02:08.700 You know what I mean?

02:02:09.340 Like you got it.

02:02:09.980 Well, my dad was 38 when my mother was born.

02:02:14.540 Yeah, but that's, it's just.

02:02:16.140 It was different times though.

02:02:17.240 Not even that it was different times.

02:02:19.040 Yeah, that's true.

02:02:19.380 It's just like, bro, who gives a shit?

02:02:21.200 Wasn't somebody, they were upset with Billie Eilish and the guy from the neighborhood.

02:02:24.760 I don't know if you heard about this.

02:02:25.640 Yeah.

02:02:25.720 So Billie Eilish, you know, she's younger.

02:02:27.160 They were like 12 years difference.

02:02:28.280 Yeah, but so what?

02:02:29.360 She's fucking of age.

02:02:30.860 She can make her own decisions and we don't know what the fuck.

02:02:32.920 We don't, we're not in on their text message that they can be fucking in love and happy.

02:02:36.880 Yeah.

02:02:36.960 Who are we to say, now it'd be different if like she was 17 or, you know, he was like,

02:02:42.140 I can't wait to knock the socks off that.

02:02:43.880 Yeah.

02:02:44.220 That'd be a little weird.

02:02:45.840 He's like, let me get that kitty cooter.

02:02:47.620 Oh no, don't say that.

02:02:49.260 If he's texting that kind of shit, then you got to go to jail.

02:02:51.860 Oh my God.

02:02:53.740 Will you guys have any more children, do you think?

02:02:55.520 Or what do you think?

02:02:55.800 My wife is currently pregnant with our.

02:02:57.640 Oh, you got back in there?

02:02:59.180 Yeah, with my second son.

02:03:01.200 What?

02:03:01.600 We're going to name him Leo.

02:03:03.240 Really?

02:03:03.740 Yeah, we're going to name him Leo because my best friend.

02:03:05.700 So here's, here's actually super quick.

02:03:08.380 The first thing I ever said to my wife was nice tattoo.

02:03:11.540 And she had a tattoo here that spelled Noel with two L's.

02:03:15.000 And she says, oh, it's in my grandmother's handwriting.

02:03:17.940 It's her middle name.

02:03:18.920 And I was like, holy shit.

02:03:20.000 And both sets of her grandparents are in their high eighties living alone, killing it.

02:03:24.040 Probably still fucking, it's like, they're killing it.

02:03:26.180 Yeah.

02:03:26.300 They're amazing.

02:03:26.700 And so I actually got her mother's name, middle name, Grace tattooed on me in her grandmother's name, which is really cool.

02:03:37.400 But I say this to say that since her middle name is her grandmother's name, she wanted her, the second boy's middle name to be her father's name, middle name.

02:03:48.880 Okay.

02:03:49.580 So Kurt David is my father-in-law.

02:03:52.760 So our boy's name will be Leon David Hall.

02:03:56.500 But Leon David is my best friend's name.

02:04:00.500 Leon David Rosalem, who fucking let me sleep in his basement when I was homeless, didn't have anywhere to go.

02:04:05.260 And almost a year to the day, I signed a Def Jam and we all moved to LA.

02:04:08.900 So I named him after my best friend, Leon David.

02:04:11.980 And it's cool because he's after my best friend, who also has the same middle name as my father-in-law.

02:04:17.760 And yeah, we call him Leo.

02:04:19.060 It's a perfect circle.

02:04:20.060 Liam?

02:04:20.800 Leo.

02:04:21.360 Leo is a good name.

02:04:22.280 Yeah.

02:04:22.780 I like it.

02:04:24.440 Lady killer Leo, you know what I mean?

02:04:26.260 Yeah.

02:04:26.620 It sounds like it.

02:04:27.280 I mean, he's got to probably be handsome if you're, I mean, you seem pretty handsome and your wife looks attractive.

02:04:31.320 I seem handsome.

02:04:33.080 Am I handsome or do I seem handsome?

02:04:34.940 I think you seem handsome.

02:04:37.060 As far as I'm going to go, dude.

02:04:39.160 I think you're handsome.

02:04:40.540 Less time to get tough.

02:04:41.540 You're a handsome guy and you got great skin.

02:04:43.960 You're handsome.

02:04:44.440 Thanks, dude.

02:04:45.300 You got great skin.

02:04:46.540 Yeah.

02:04:46.800 I'm just getting older though.

02:04:47.760 That's the only thing, you know?

02:04:48.760 What the fuck are you talking about?

02:04:49.980 You got great skin.

02:04:50.820 Time comes and get you.

02:04:52.080 Look at your hair.

02:04:54.740 Look at you.

02:04:55.520 What are you talking about?

02:04:56.340 You look good.

02:04:56.940 You look great.

02:04:58.180 Oh, dude.

02:04:58.700 I look like a homeless stuffed in a non-homeless guy.

02:05:03.840 One thing that's interesting about you, I think I love what you're doing, man.

02:05:06.660 I love the fact that you're kind of like, you're not pivoting from music, but you're adding

02:05:09.800 to your ability to perform with also people seeing more of your personality, which I think

02:05:15.100 is interesting, especially coming from your own life and all the experiences you've had.

02:05:18.880 I think some people, they only have what their music is, but you, there's so much.

02:05:23.160 I mean, it's fucked.

02:05:23.740 There's a lot to fucking unpack there.

02:05:25.340 I mean, there's so many sentences you said during this chat that I could be like, well,

02:05:28.560 what about this?

02:05:29.160 What about this?

02:05:29.820 So I think there's going to be a lot of just breadth of not only knowledge, but just sharing

02:05:35.500 of experiences that you've had or being able to relate to people.

02:05:39.320 It's probably going to be a big part of your future.

02:05:41.160 So I think it's cool, man, that people are getting to know you more and that you're allowing

02:05:45.240 that to happen because I think there's probably a need for that in the world because a lot

02:05:51.220 of people don't have the experience that you've had.

02:05:52.980 So, you know, yeah, man, I just, I just, I kind of see this as the second chapter of

02:05:59.060 my career, you know, or second act, if you will, of my career.

02:06:02.860 And yeah, the music is so therapeutic.

02:06:05.280 I'll always do it.

02:06:06.040 I love it.

02:06:06.520 It's like, it's so easy for me to do it.

02:06:08.580 You know, I was on vacation a couple of weeks ago and I made 37 beats in a day on vacation.

02:06:13.720 I woke up, I was just in bed and then played with my son and then put him down for a nap

02:06:18.640 and finished my 37 for the day.

02:06:20.220 Like, I don't know.

02:06:21.180 I just love it and it's amazing.

02:06:23.180 But this shit, I live on this because like, I used to really be so jealous of comedians

02:06:29.980 because I'm like, these fucking assholes, especially the greats, they go out on stage, they're

02:06:36.640 themselves and all they need is a fucking microphone.

02:06:39.900 I got to go out there and I got to have fucking lasers and big screens and kids on Molly in

02:06:45.200 the back and everyone's like, oh my God.

02:06:46.880 And that's why when I do go out on tour, cause I'm definitely touring for this, I'm stripping

02:06:51.120 it down.

02:06:51.560 I've been in arenas for like fucking six years.

02:06:53.660 I don't want to fucking do arenas.

02:06:54.820 I want to do theaters, three to 7,000 cap fucking theaters, simple backdrop, the shittiest

02:07:00.380 lighting show.

02:07:01.100 And it's going to be about me as a fucking MC doing my thing.

02:07:03.920 But what I'm saying is here, this being me is the best thing I know how to do and be.

02:07:12.760 So even when I do rap, there's still some personification of like, yeah, but I'm like

02:07:17.160 logic, the, the rapid, this is the side of me that's rapping or the side of me that's

02:07:21.320 got to be super like here.

02:07:22.600 I can just be, I can be me.

02:07:23.780 I can be funny.

02:07:24.460 We can talk.

02:07:25.040 We can like do, I can literally do this all fucking day.

02:07:27.860 Right.

02:07:28.420 The fact that's letting me know that this is where my future is, is, is going, especially

02:07:32.140 on YouTube and social media.

02:07:33.360 And I'm making a serious, serious investment.

02:07:35.700 So for all my fans who are watching, let me just tell y'all, y'all spending fucking

02:07:39.920 a fuck ton of money to do the YouTube and the green screen videos and the trap and all

02:07:46.200 this other stuff.

02:07:47.100 And, and I love it.

02:07:48.160 It's cool, man.

02:07:48.600 I love that.

02:07:49.000 I went to your channel, man.

02:07:49.800 I watched a few videos and I liked it.

02:07:51.560 I was like, oh, I just feel like I'm getting to know him.

02:07:53.380 It's engaging.

02:07:54.440 It's different from the, you know, his history as a musician.

02:07:57.540 And also I think it's like, um, you know, when you grow up in a place with a lot of chaos

02:08:02.780 and a lot of like trying to kind of trauma, which is a buzzword that people use these

02:08:06.180 days.

02:08:06.400 But when you grow up in that environment, you don't really get a chance to settle down

02:08:10.640 sometimes till you're, you're almost a late bloomer in some ways in life where you don't

02:08:14.760 get a chance to kind of, you know, it takes a time for things to settle.

02:08:18.600 It's like Michael Jackson.

02:08:19.580 Imagine how Justin Bieber must feel.

02:08:21.280 It's a real thing.

02:08:22.060 Like for kids who never like really got to have a childhood, you know what I mean?

02:08:25.360 And had a childhood in front of the whole world.

02:08:27.140 Like, bro, think about some shit that you've done or said that you wouldn't even want to

02:08:31.020 say publicly, like that would totally get you canceled because you were just a normal

02:08:35.260 human being who maybe said a wrong joke or this, like as a kid, like as kids, like we

02:08:40.340 all say and do dumb shit.

02:08:41.500 I don't give a fuck who you are.

02:08:42.300 We're humans.

02:08:42.900 Well, there's two blackface kids, dude.

02:08:45.620 Exactly.

02:08:46.360 But that's what I mean.

02:08:47.320 It's like, we've all done something.

02:08:49.600 That kid's two years old.

02:08:51.940 He's fucked.

02:08:53.060 He's canceled.

02:08:53.900 He's canceled.

02:08:54.740 He's two.

02:08:55.160 You're canceled.

02:08:55.580 They blurred his fucking face out.

02:08:57.480 People, you think 20 years from now, people are going to like, are you little Eddie?

02:09:00.180 Is this you?

02:09:01.100 Like, what the fuck?

02:09:01.980 I think it's really funny though, how it's like a whole, not bit.

02:09:07.220 I almost said bit.

02:09:07.940 We did the bit, but it's like a whole thing on blackface, but they don't show the blackface.

02:09:13.860 Oh no.

02:09:14.160 Like, why would you blur it out?

02:09:15.640 It's almost like Asian porn where you blur it.

02:09:19.040 It's like, what's the point?

02:09:20.360 Oh, they blur out the faces?

02:09:21.440 Yeah.

02:09:22.020 Oh, I haven't seen that.

02:09:22.780 I mean, I guess maybe it's like, because that's somebody's child.

02:09:25.300 I don't know.

02:09:25.760 But it's, it's just almost like, Hey, here's, here's a, here's a writeup on this thing.

02:09:30.500 And then you go, cause you want to see it, but you can't see it.

02:09:32.800 You can't see it.

02:09:33.360 How are you going to see blackface when your face is blurred?

02:09:35.540 Well, I mean, it's like, and also like at least, um, if the kids are going to do it,

02:09:41.360 let them fucking do it.

02:09:43.660 Or is that the right take or not?

02:09:45.100 Maybe not.

02:09:45.800 So what I'm trying to say is, well, look, fuck no.

02:09:49.900 One of them was a cop and one of them was a fucking construction worker.

02:09:53.360 What'd you mean?

02:09:53.800 One of them.

02:09:54.460 What does that mean?

02:09:55.380 I'm just saying one of them.

02:09:56.580 What?

02:09:56.920 No.

02:09:57.240 I'm kidding.

02:09:59.800 Dude, congrats on the new album.

02:10:01.260 It comes out March.

02:10:03.040 March.

02:10:03.620 No, February 24th is called College Park.

02:10:06.220 Okay.

02:10:06.760 Yeah.

02:10:07.740 It comes out February 24th.

02:10:09.220 It's called College Park.

02:10:11.400 Thanks so much to you.

02:10:12.260 Yeah.

02:10:12.380 I'd love to chat again sometime.

02:10:13.680 Yeah, for sure.

02:10:14.780 It'd be cool.

02:10:15.600 You know, come by every once in a while.

02:10:17.060 Yeah.

02:10:17.260 And I want to make my rounds too, man.

02:10:18.840 Any, any homies or different people that you know that you think it'd be fun to fuck with

02:10:22.680 them?

02:10:22.840 What about Tiger Belly?

02:10:23.520 Have you been on there?

02:10:24.640 Oh, yeah.

02:10:25.540 I want to do it all, man.

02:10:26.360 So like, let me know, you know, I want to fuck with whoever.

02:10:29.040 I'll think of some great ones, man.

02:10:30.440 All right.

02:10:30.720 Yo, make sure you check out Troy Bond.

02:10:32.680 Okay.

02:10:32.920 I'm telling you, man, the kid, he's really special.

02:10:34.580 You know, it's almost like when I first fucking met Pete Davidson and we used to hang all the

02:10:38.340 time.

02:10:38.580 And I just, I was like, oh yeah, this dude's out of here type shit.

02:10:40.500 Really?

02:10:40.840 It's that feeling.

02:10:41.540 Yeah.

02:10:41.740 It just felt like he had just like a unique energy.

02:10:43.840 Yeah.

02:10:44.080 And he does.

02:10:44.840 And he's so easy.

02:10:45.640 I mean, like he says, he looks like a Puerto Rican lesbian.

02:10:48.240 Like it's hilarious.

02:10:48.840 Yeah.

02:10:49.480 Yeah.

02:10:49.680 A lot of people thought he was Brittany Griner.

02:10:51.160 Remember a couple months ago.

02:10:52.440 What?

02:10:53.040 There was a lot of, you bring that up.

02:10:54.280 Honestly, Pete Davidson, Brittany Griner.

02:10:56.380 Dude, Brittany Griner was at the, I went to the golf this past weekend.

02:10:59.500 I was in Phoenix.

02:11:00.260 Brittany Griner was there.

02:11:01.080 I had a chance to meet her and I had to do something for a buddy.

02:11:05.880 Dude.

02:11:06.460 I would have loved to be like, yo, what was, what's that like?

02:11:09.560 Wait, this is a real thing?

02:11:10.700 Oh yeah.

02:11:11.360 This is happening.

02:11:12.320 It's a doppelganger.

02:11:13.060 Oh, it's totally in that one right there though.

02:11:15.040 Yeah.

02:11:15.220 A lot of people thought that that was Pete Davidson when they traded for Russia or whatever.

02:11:18.900 Dude, here's a crazy thing that I heard.

02:11:21.200 What?

02:11:21.780 From some like, um, I was at like a party and they had some Israeli guys there and they

02:11:26.280 said that they, the reason Brittany Griner got busted or got, she was over there.

02:11:31.980 There's like a Russian czar or whatever that pays women to come play basketball topless

02:11:38.020 over there.

02:11:39.260 And that's what she was doing over there in the first place.

02:11:41.340 Cause people, no one asked like, what was she even doing in Russia in the first place?

02:11:45.340 Oh, I don't know if that's true, but it was real interesting, but she just got a haircut.

02:11:49.460 I almost got to meet her at the golf tournament.

02:11:51.820 You have a favorite football team.

02:11:53.560 I fucking hate sports.

02:11:54.860 I'm trying to get into it.

02:11:56.360 I just, I, it's not that I hate it.

02:11:58.780 It's just like, I've just fucking never, I mean, I love skateboarding.

02:12:01.800 You know what I mean?

02:12:02.160 That's a sport.

02:12:02.940 Yeah.

02:12:03.120 I used to do that shit till I was like 20 years old.

02:12:06.500 Like I was obsessed.

02:12:07.520 Yeah.

02:12:07.760 I'm actually going to have dinner with Paul Rodriguez tonight.

02:12:10.080 No.

02:12:10.420 One of the greatest skateboarders of fucking all time.

02:12:12.760 Yeah.

02:12:13.280 I just actually, I was doing, I was doing this interview with this cat named Vic blends

02:12:16.500 and he.

02:12:17.800 Yeah, dude, I see him.

02:12:18.500 I follow him on TikTok.

02:12:19.500 He's super dope.

02:12:20.180 And I did an interview with him and I won't, I won't, I won't give that away, but it was,

02:12:24.360 it was really, it was really special.

02:12:26.060 And anyway, I ended up meeting Paul Rodriguez.

02:12:29.040 So that's what I'm saying.

02:12:30.460 Dude.

02:12:30.820 Well, it sounds like you have a lot of new stuff going on in your life, man.

02:12:33.140 Thanks for coming in and sharing it with us, man.

02:12:34.780 Thanks for being so cool.

02:12:35.940 And you know, I'm, I'm, I'm glad that you're sober.

02:12:40.860 Thanks, man.

02:12:41.440 Yeah.

02:12:41.740 And yeah, I feel pretty good about it.

02:12:43.120 It's a little bit.

02:12:44.160 I feel like, yeah, I feel like it's the only way I can do things now.

02:12:49.840 Kind of.

02:12:50.820 Well, what do you mean?

02:12:51.420 I don't know if I was fucked up if I'd be able to do anything.

02:12:53.960 Well, I mean, were you fucked up?

02:12:55.280 I mean, look at you.

02:12:56.060 No, but it's just always the fear of being that.

02:12:59.180 I don't know if I go out, what tomorrow, what it could be like tomorrow.

02:13:02.080 I don't want to risk that I'm not going to be able to be here with you.

02:13:05.380 I love how honest you are, man.

02:13:07.040 And that's how I feel.

02:13:09.080 Honesty is, obviously, I know we should be wrapping up here, but I just want to say like,

02:13:13.620 how long had you done hard drugs?

02:13:19.660 I think if somebody had something, I would do it.

02:13:22.200 So I didn't go around a lot of people that had it, but if somebody had a little something

02:13:25.040 on it, I would do it.

02:13:26.000 You know, I met a dude at a laundromat one time and did some damn LSD, dude.

02:13:30.060 What's left all my fucking clothes in there and fucking left.

02:13:33.020 What's your, what's your drug of choice?

02:13:34.500 Probably cocaine.

02:13:36.940 Yeah.

02:13:37.540 I would say probably.

02:13:38.300 What does it feel like?

02:13:39.020 If I had to guess, I would say cocaine.

02:13:40.740 What's it like?

02:13:42.580 Let me think.

02:13:43.480 I like cocaine because it makes me feel exactly how I want to immediately.

02:13:46.640 Like having a beer, it's like, hey, I got to talk to Patrick or Ricky.

02:13:50.260 You know what I'm saying?

02:13:51.300 If I have cocaine, dude, I get to go home, fucking hold on to my fucking wiener and be

02:13:56.140 scared and.

02:13:58.040 Wait, what?

02:13:58.960 Yeah.

02:13:59.200 That's what you do, dude.

02:14:00.180 If you do a bunch of cocaine in your house, you hold on to your fucking wiener and you be

02:14:03.960 scared and then you hope that you'll live, but you don't know if you will.

02:14:10.000 Are you fucking serious?

02:14:11.020 Yeah.

02:14:11.640 And what?

02:14:12.060 Do you like that feeling?

02:14:13.440 Do you like it?

02:14:13.900 I think there's a part of me that relates to that feeling so much.

02:14:17.120 Oh yeah.

02:14:17.400 But that just sounds like desperation and all that sounds like fucking childhood trauma.

02:14:21.500 Yeah.

02:14:22.100 Agreed.

02:14:22.540 I think it just, it just attaches to that old shit.

02:14:24.860 I couldn't imagine you on cocaine.

02:14:26.760 So like, have you, how many times, have you ever been on cocaine while you were doing

02:14:30.720 the show?

02:14:32.140 No.

02:14:32.640 No, no, no, no.

02:14:33.540 I couldn't, but I couldn't imagine.

02:14:34.900 You're already so like.

02:14:35.780 I'd be so scared.

02:14:36.740 You're super chill.

02:14:38.000 Like this is what's crazy.

02:14:39.100 It's like you're chill, but animated at the same time.

02:14:41.860 And I feel like if you were on cocaine, like you would explode.

02:14:44.960 Oh, I would be looking at porn on my phone and I'd be pretending I wasn't.

02:14:50.800 That'd be the tough part.

02:14:51.700 I would drive and do cocaine and be looking at like escorts.

02:14:55.420 It was just all just tragic.

02:14:57.920 And I think I didn't like, but I think I liked cocaine because it's like, I want to feel,

02:15:02.880 I don't want there to be any ambiguity about how I want to feel.

02:15:06.760 I want to feel how I want to feel right now.

02:15:09.140 Yeah.

02:15:09.240 But you're talking about grabbing your wiener and freaking out.

02:15:12.020 Are you serious?

02:15:12.900 I mean.

02:15:13.520 I'm a hundred percent serious.

02:15:14.480 What do you like about it though?

02:15:16.020 The feeling like what feel?

02:15:16.980 Cause I'm just curious.

02:15:17.820 Like what does it.

02:15:18.640 It gave you an excuse to be a, it gave you an excuse to grab your wiener.

02:15:22.920 Oh, shut the fuck up.

02:15:24.320 What are you talking about?

02:15:25.400 That's what I'm telling you.

02:15:26.420 No, man, you do blow.

02:15:27.840 Right.

02:15:28.280 This is how I imagine it.

02:15:29.300 It's like, all right, you're fucking, you're in the Hollywood Hills.

02:15:31.840 You got six bitches with you.

02:15:33.640 You know what I'm talking about?

02:15:35.200 You're fucking driving in a drop top coupe and you fucking do a line and you fucking feel

02:15:40.640 invincible.

02:15:42.020 That's what I think cocaine is.

02:15:43.320 You're describing it as like, oh shit.

02:15:46.620 That does not sound fun.

02:15:49.160 That does not sound fucking fun at all, man.

02:15:51.880 I'm definitely never doing cocaine now.

02:15:55.580 Shit.

02:15:56.160 Thank you.

02:15:56.580 All right.

02:15:56.820 Good interview.

02:15:57.420 Fuck.

02:15:57.800 Dang.

02:15:58.100 Now I'm just falling on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

02:16:04.740 I must be cornerstone.

02:16:09.980 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

02:16:15.380 And I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take a little bit.

02:16:23.540 Bye.

02:16:24.200 Bye.

02:16:25.400 Bye.

02:16:26.840 Bye.

02:16:27.380 Bye.

02:16:28.280 Bye.

02:16:36.580 Bye.

02:16:36.640 Bye.

02:16:37.260 Bye.

02:16:38.580 Bye.

02:16:39.520 Bye.

02:16:39.680 Bye.

02:16:40.780 Bye.

02:16:41.240 Bye.

02:16:41.620 Ai.

02:16:42.100 Bye.

02:16:42.420 Bye.

02:16:42.620 Bye.

02:16:42.820 Bye.

02:16:43.220 Bye.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - February 28, 2023

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