E485 Israel Adesanya
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 13 minutes
Words per Minute
211.96481
Hate Speech Sentences
128
Summary
New Zealand is a fighter, a kickboxer, a martial arts artist, and a whole lot more. He is one of the most decorated fighters in the history of the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) and is a man of many talents.
Transcript
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happy to be here and uh he is he is a fighter a kickboxer a artist um he it's fascinating to watch
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him experience the world he's a damn human van gogh of some type of sorts um he's had one of the greatest
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runs as a ufc champion uh i'm just grateful to spend time with him today mr israel adesanya
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you're pretty happy you're you're probably i mean they don't have a lot of like
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like well let's don't fucking go down that road man i can't call another fighter handsome yeah you
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can look into i like the hair if i could mullet i'd definitely do it like for a season really yeah
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fuck yeah well they need someone and i don't want to say who but someone of certain culture yeah would
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be neat to see the jerry curl really yeah i know what you mean i used to have jerry curls when i was
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younger it was a thing maybe in the late 90s early 2000s but then it's not good for your scalp
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really yeah no all the chemicals in there you also the last time i did it i burnt my scalp
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yeah i left it on too long so then i was like right we're done with that but also it's not good
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for your scalp for your hair because my hair is meant to be as you say nappy like texturized you
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know so yeah having to burn it out to straighten it and then perm and all that stuff is not oh you
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got to do that so it's like you got to straighten it and then so the relaxer straightens it and and
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then you can put the jerry curl in there and then makes it curly but yeah i never had it long i had
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it short but still i mean a mullet would be nice though yeah it'll be a cool fighter i mean who uh
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miguel torres ricky simone ricky simone yeah he's got a nice one yeah a lot of guys at the gym oh well
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who else ortega has did he have one ryan ortega he just had locks like nice arnold allen did he have
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i'm trying to think a lot of kiwi guys like my guy toes him up a lot of the guys and a lot of
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damn women in this country you're not wrong to be honest bro you'll see a grandma with a hatchet
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in this like this is real it's standard yeah um but it would be awesome on some of the highlight
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videos just to see the fucking whip when you hit someone bang just over getting hit that's one thing
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i'm grateful for is like because i know it looks worse sometimes when you have long hair and you get hit
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and maybe even if you roll with the shot yeah the crowd goes oh yeah and then you're like
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fuck they thought that bro that a whiz passed me but it looked like you're gonna hit because of the
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dude that's what's interesting about you you're that intricate to detail
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that you want to even man it like you want to have a say-so in how you even get hit
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if that makes any sense like how does that look to people yeah you know like you're such an entertainer
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it's like i even want to make that look as perfect as i possible yeah yeah i try not to get hit but
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if i'm gonna get hit i'll be hit by the best yeah you know a lot of them so um and they're always
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iconic moments but still like yeah the game is hit and don't get hit so i can preserve my uh my noggin
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yeah yeah my brain want to keep this intact so i can keep doing this and i don't have to
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you don't want that yeah it is kind of crazy like reporters will totally look over that a guy can't
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even speak just to be like hey how do you feel about this next fight i mean that's why joe shout
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to him he stopped uh interviewing guys after they've been knocked out because oh really yeah
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he said that i think it was after one of the over him after the over him fight and over him did a
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famous meme or saying he says i clearly felt to tap because he had steep in a guillotine and he thought
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he tapped but again he just got rocked so you know your brain's not really all there i've been knocked
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out before like cold once shout out to pereira um yeah pereira is that how you say it yeah pereira
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alex portan pereira oh he's a he's he's really yeah i feel like you probably admire him yeah of
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course yeah yeah i look people think i'm i'm not a hater man i'm a guy who we're all in this game
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together right we're all trying to better our our lives for our family and all and generations and all
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that and he's achieved it you know in the beginning when he first came to the ufc granted he didn't
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have the run that i had he got to the spot he got because he already beat me in kickboxing
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and i don't want to hop on too much about this like um but i want to give you the history yeah
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no no for those for those who don't know okay yeah because i'm sure new people will be watching
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this so they don't understand it was literally three nil or two and no two or no two or no so
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technically the first fight i thought i won you know anyone who watched it well he edged that out
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and then they gave it to him and i was like what okay cool second fight we go to brazil thanks
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sao paulo beautiful oh and i was there on carnival oh man i was cutting weight so i couldn't be
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outside but i'll tell you what oh i'll never forget this i go downstairs from the hotel when i get to
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sao paulo because um you have to get like a a plug that works you know a converter and then i my phone
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was on one percent so i left it in my room i go downstairs and i'll never forget it i see this guy
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and two girls and then one of them kind of looked back to see what was behind her and smiled and
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just had the most beautiful racial ass to tits i've ever seen in my life and i remember thinking
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like fuck i wish i could capture this moment but i just right there i just right there so but i think
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they were hookers though because he was getting it was probably like 2 a.m we landed or something so
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he was getting some for to go yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but um yeah that that was beautiful just
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right there anyway back to the fight so i fight alex and then oh especially getting eaten in a
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couple days yeah oh man you know i'm hungry hungry but um yeah i get to the fight we're doing work
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beating them and then catches me because i rocked him in the second round and in the third round he
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just came back rallied up and just caught me flatlined me that's the only time i've ever been
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knocked out and was that the kickboxing yeah kickboxing okay and then yeah when when i came
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i was i came to i was and i remember like they were rushing me trying to put oxygen mask on me i was
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like i don't need that hold up and they tried to take me out on the stretcher as well and i was like
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chill champ like it's not that deep but then i walked to the back and i remember me and you just
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walk silently to the back into this white space and just kind of like huh i was like what do you hit me with
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and he goes left hook he straight away just told me left hook it's like your hand didn't come back
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fast enough i was like ah but again in that that time from being knocked out to that moment having
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a mic in my face and then so how do you feel about this fight that wouldn't be ideal so i'm glad joe
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stopped doing that um just so the guys don't have to embarrass themselves or say something that they
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might regret later on yeah yeah i never i didn't think about how crazy that is that they even do that
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it's almost like like kind of like when you have to do that dizzy bat game you know where you spin
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your head in my gym we have this drill that we haven't done in a while actually but the dizzy bat
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game and then you do it 10 times then you get up and you have to hit the pads just in case you never
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know in a fight where you might get rocked and then you have to keep your keep your composure so yeah
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dizzy bat game and then you know most times it's like you have to run straight but this one you have
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to right there one two ba ba one two three and you're just but again that's what it's like when you get
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rock sometimes and you're just like oh shit you have to keep your composure so oh that's interesting
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it's an old school drill that the league boys barmore league boys had so eugene's done it a
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few times but i might bring it back for some fun actually i might do it for some content that'd be
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a good idea it's in it i feel like it'd be fascinating i've never seen that you ever train
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uh yeah i've trained but i'm just a one-stripe white belt ah i see nice but there's still some
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possibility oh you can still there's levels yeah yeah you can still three stripes imagine that
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fuck you'd be a badass oh i'll fuck somebody up outside of jimmy john's
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um dude i've watched the documentary man it was really cool thank you it was really interesting
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for you to just like share about like it felt like what it's like to to like not only kind of
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to be to have some of your history but then also to like the pressures of how things change once you
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achieve your dreams and your goals and then how some of that feels like it doesn't really fulfill
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maybe what you thought it was gonna do yeah um like i could relate to that at a time man i'm sure
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wait when did you when did you kind of like like blow up what age would you say i would say like five
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years ago i think work started getting busier for me probably maybe about five years ago you would
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have been yeah i'm glad i didn't find fame at a young age like say 25 year old izzy with everything
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that i have now bad idea yeah hey tio bad idea as that's that's a story for later on but um yeah i'm
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glad i found fame later on but but still you know they say be careful what you wish for yeah and i don't
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regret anything i'm ready i prepared for this life but it's it's still surprising yeah there's levels there's
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all these variables you don't expect and i've kind of set myself up now to the point where okay
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i've expressed enough like how i've example what's one um after the ufc two two four three in melbourne
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um i defended my belt against whitaker against whitaker so i defended my belt the first time
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i like to put it and then going to the airport i remember just thinking in the car like because i was
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kind of just there's so much stimulus because i just did what i did and still the to this date the
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highest attendance in ufc history it was six 57 127 people and all these everywhere i went
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you know it was just crazy even the week fight week i went down the strip just walked alone just
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because i was like let me enjoy this while i can you know because i didn't know how long i would have
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that for i can still do it now but because i've i have boundaries now i didn't have that for a long
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time but what i did on the way to the airport going back to nz i just put out a thing on my story or
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tweet just saying like look if you see me at the airport just approach me cautiously you don't
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have to come yelling because for me oh my god yeah it's crazy it's very scary sometimes you think
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you're on fire the bit in the movie where i didn't even plan it and they just kind of like drove by
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and i'm like what the oh yeah it raised my adrenaline up and then they came to my door and
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that's why i moved houses because people would just come to my door and oh oh my god i'm and this is
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like 9 p.m at night i'm like yo and that's a boundary let me borrow some quiche yeah guys try
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to sell me a watch once oh that's perfect yeah and then i was like hold up and i went upstairs
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came back down i was like i already got this watch bro it was a g-shot like a black and gold one
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classic but then for me i just boundaries i had to learn boundaries for myself yeah because you burn
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out yeah it burns you after i do any kind of media stuff or anything with fans my people just know
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my friends my security they just know okay i just go to my room and i just re regroup or replenish
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my social battery if you will and i'm sure you've had to deal with this as well yeah i didn't know
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that i had to do that when it was like about two and a half years ago things were going well you know
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i was like being able to sell tickets and stuff and just like you work so hard for it you know and i
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didn't know like i would go meet every fan after i didn't know i felt like i it was i could never do
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enough yeah to make people think that i was enough no you gotta there's more they'll never
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there's never enough because you give them an inch it'll take a mile i haven't stopped signing um
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these uh guys who just come camp at the fighter hotel i don't even stay at the fighter hotel anymore
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i always get my own space now just because i remember like oh can you sign this please and
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then they'd have like a stack of shit oh totally and then you know i didn't want to be the bad guy
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so i'd sign everything but it got to a point where i might hang on that's not just for you
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you're selling that and you know just be honest but again don't take the piss and have like 20
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fucking gloves for me to sign i'm like yo i don't know you're just signing this for my daughter you
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sign this for my my grandson oh my god when they use their kids months old i don't like it when they
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use their kids as a trojan horse they come with the kid i'm like don't and i'm like do you want to
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take a picture because sometimes the kid would be like the fuck's this guy yeah i'm like do you want to
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take a picture or does your dad want to take a picture because if he just said oh bro i'm a big
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fan you know can't take a picture that's cool but again it's just boundaries boundaries and respect
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like i just came back from the gym i actually go to a a public gym once in a while now because after
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the the last lockdown again i come out into the world and people are all locked down they're excited
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the energy was always just and i just didn't know how to deal with it because again i'm human
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and i'd get really anxious and sometimes a little bit short with my fuse oh me too for sure bro what
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the fuck like come yeah let's take a photo but chill and then i realized no i gotta fix this so i
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went to a public gym just because i was like immerse myself in people and again i'd have to tell
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people nah not right now i'm working so that was my way of learning the reps of saying no you have to
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learn how to say no because if you don't say no they'll just take they'll take and they'll hold you
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hostage with their conversation as well yeah i don't like that oh they're like we face time my
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stepmother's dying you know like we face time she don't want to see me what am i gonna do tell
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us some jokes and then i get on there and she's like oh no and the lady's like what the she doesn't
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give a fuck she doesn't give a she has bigger problems she's trying to die yeah she's trying yeah
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she's trying to like she's trying to like hide whatever bad stuff is left in her home before god
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comes and gets her and now she has to like pretend that we can talk um but no i just found it to be
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fascinating because i i thought that once i got to a certain part of success maybe or if enough people
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knew me i thought everything inside of me would be cool and it bro when it wasn't it i mean not it
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knocked me out because i was like if this doesn't fix whatever's going on inside of me then i don't
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know what else could fix it you know it's never external it's always here internal so i had to
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learn that from watching other people like example rashad evans when he won the belt ufc 92 he said
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just he thought it'd be different but nah it didn't feel any different he just felt
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meh kind of like okay i've done it and i felt the same way so when i won the belt
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i was like did it feel different and i i still feel the same because i always felt like i was
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the best i always said this is just a fancy tiara it comes with me just keep winning so i never chased
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a belt ever i've never chased a belt i've never even identified myself on my bio or to people as
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unless for promo i said ufc middleweight champion but apart from that nah i just i know who i am so i
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never i don't the belt doesn't make me i make the belt i'm still me look how many people are calling
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me out and i'm not even the champion currently it's i'm israel dissonant i i feel like my name
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has transcended the belt itself i don't need the belt to show i'm a champion because how you carry
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yourself is is is what makes you a champion yeah but i'm still learning though constantly every day
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yeah no that's what i got from the documentary too it was cool man it was inspiring it was inspiring
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i appreciate that it really was man because a lot of that i could relate to too like i remember like
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when i was growing up i just wanted to be seen i remember you saying that at one point and it was
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like for some reason i just i was like i'm gonna make people see me and i don't even know what it
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meant or anything it was just it was like a like a lighthouse that was inside of me i i just got like
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oh were you a bully i wasn't a bully i just didn't get any attention now this haircut might have
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bullied you're like the same size just like give me your lunch look i was feared in a lot of
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softball circles because of my haircut they're like this guy's dangerous yeah yeah yeah this guy
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this fella um but no i think i just did i think i just felt like i i didn't want anything to define
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me except for me yeah that was like cute it was like and i don't even know where it came from but it
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was like i didn't want to attach myself to anything i wanted to walk to school and not take the bus i
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didn't want anybody determining the only way you were going to learn about me was through me wow that
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was it there was nobody else you could add there was it was all especially my voice it was the only
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thing that i had that was mine yeah and so it was like i'm going to use this are you an only child
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no i got three siblings but i think i felt like an only human probably oh wow i felt like an only
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human a lot of like solitude growing up yeah just a lot of like lack of connection like with family
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just like felt like i was in my own world yeah just working freelance it felt like we're the oldest or
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no i got an older brother older brother yeah middle yeah middle but we had like a lot of just like
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addiction and people it just wasn't like a no connection so i felt like i'm sentenced into this
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family but there's no real family here yeah you guys didn't have dinner at the table none of that
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no we just had fights it was always like fighting and a lot of violence and it was like
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it just didn't feel like anything so it felt like i'm never gonna let anything define me again yeah
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you know not like god got me one time with where i'm born you know like he got me there but after
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this where's this from where you're from i'm from louisiana i was gonna say same as um dc yeah cormier
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cormier and um dustin poirier poirier and uh who else is from there um alan joban is from down there
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now he's real cajun you know he's another he's a handsome fighter yeah god he's good looking he's
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a model actually yeah he's the model for calvin klein dude if you yeah and then he's modeling
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against calvin qatar you know it's like if i were that good looking i don't think i would have got in
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the rank you know i mean what did ali say it's the it's a pretty ones you gotta watch out for
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because you try i mean i used to do fashion week when i was younger but i think it's just because i'm
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one of the only black guys out here so it was just yeah i can yeah i thought there would be uh
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because there's more maori people here maori yeah maori yeah you got it and there's um
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the islanders as well like the sumoans and tongans yes big fellas oh yeah there's some of them you
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can't get around them you gotta yeah i had to go around the block yeah get around one guy get in the
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orbit no but um there was um who else yeah there's not a lot of like i guess what most of the universe
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would probably consider black black yeah is that true yeah facts wow um even when i first moved to
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new zealand i was in a little town called rotoroa and yeah one of the only black families there and
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you would have seen in the documentary yeah so definitely uh even when i went back to the creek
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i used to play at oh yes all those kids they were amped up whoa and i'm like yeah bro i used to play on
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this creek because my house was literally right there and it's i'm surprised it's still there it
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was beautiful um but again one of the only black kids so people didn't understand so they'd pick on
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me but my way of getting around that was dancing dance was my well got my like street cred yeah oh it
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was incredible man watching the documentary was cool like because one thing i learned a lot is that just
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you're such an inner you like to be an entertainer huh yeah you just love it i love it it's fun yeah
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because i'm i think for me early on it was just to get people to like me yeah that's in back in
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nigeria or when i lived in ghana for a brief it was just my way of expressing myself but when i moved
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to this country and i realized i danced better than everybody in my school i was like okay that's my
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thing yeah so then i kept on and i tried to make people like me just so i could fit in oh yeah again
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not everyone's gonna like you and i didn't understand how to deal with that when i was 13 14 12. oh yeah
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like like man especially if nobody's telling you how to deal with it i'm trying to do that now with
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the young guys that's around me i try and tell them like because i try and be honest with them this is
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this is where i'm at in my career this is when i was your age i was here and i give it to them raw
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like let them know the truth without sugar coating it and then they appreciate that because then they
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can take from they'll make their own mistakes you know yeah i can take from my mistakes and try not to
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make the same mistakes or dumb mistakes that i made yeah yeah i think when i was a kid i wish somebody just
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would have given me a little more information about what was going on i was making up all my own
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rules in my head and so then i created this own universe and checks and balances you know all right
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subject to change terms apply yeah yes i lived um when yeah like what was it like in nigeria do you
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have any memories of it kind of heaps yeah nigeria i grew up uh i was born and raised in lagos city
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and i'll my family was quite well off um and when i say this people normally think like oh it was born with
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a silver spoon in his mouth i was but my i still had to do chores i still this is why
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sometimes people try and help me iron my clothes i'm like no i got it because my dad would be like
00:24:44.000
bola g come on come on iron my shirt like you know for work yeah that kind of stuff i did the dishes i
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swept the compounds you know clean up the kennel the dog kennel so i just because my parents were rich
00:24:53.360
doesn't mean i didn't have to work i had to earn my keep yeah and um yeah i i learned hard work from
00:24:58.880
them as well even moving to new zealand when my mom became a nurse or she was in nursing school
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my dad would let her sleep and her cleaning job me and him will go to the bank and clean around 4 a.m
00:25:10.880
this is in rotoroa the town i was talking about around 4 a.m go and help her clean just so she can
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get enough sleep to go to school the next day oh that's nice that sounds like a thoughtful guy huh
00:25:20.720
yeah my dad oh my dad's the best well my dad is a real g he's one of the coolest gangsters i know
00:25:26.320
and i'm not talking street gangster he's just a mathematical word contract type like business
00:25:32.960
gangster you know i've said this before look you know rest in peace to habib's dad he was in his
00:25:38.720
corner and fighting michael jordan has his dad on the on the court so is steph curry a lot of other
00:25:44.240
dads as well in football but my dad helps me off the court and i've said this again and i'll say it
00:25:50.400
again and again the ufc knows what i got paid or what i get paid but they don't know what i'm worth
00:25:55.520
and that's thanks to my dad oh yeah because my dad is a chartered accountant by by by trade and
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he just knew how to flip my money for me because every time i came back from china every time i and
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i had i think i came back my when i lived there i came back with six figures or five figures high five
00:26:10.880
figures and then he tried to help me invest it and i was like i don't want to have a house he has too
00:26:14.880
like too much responsibility because i was young and dumb and i went broke again so i realized every
00:26:20.160
time i don't listen to this guy i go broke i should start listening to him so as soon as i go on the
00:26:24.960
ufc i was like right what do i do first thing we did buy my first house yeah and then now we've just
00:26:30.880
it's going crazy but again that's thanks to my dad but who else would you rather have in your corner
00:26:35.120
than has the best interest if without him i would have been ripped off so many times man yeah i would
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because people it's just in their nature they take advantage they see like oh this guy's not really
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paying attention or he didn't he just signed that contract he didn't even shit so i don't sign
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shit without my pops looking at it and then giving me the green green light like yeah it's cool
00:26:54.720
boom because he'll send it back with highlighted bits amend that that's what in perpetuity no we
00:27:00.800
can't have that amend that but but but yeah it's it's interesting because sometimes you'll feel like
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you trust somebody else more than you would trust your own like kin or family you know in there
00:27:10.240
yeah it's weird i don't know why that is i don't know because you grew up with them
00:27:13.280
we're familiar with them yeah you want to branch out you're like i can do this myself yeah it's probably
00:27:17.360
it silly um what other like what was there traditions that you missed about nigeria because
00:27:22.640
i mean it's to somebody it sounds fascinating to a lot of people you know yeah no there's a lot of
00:27:29.120
see like even now afrobeats has taken over the the globe with our sound i think we created afrobeats and
00:27:35.680
that's mainstream now um dances that we do the way that we dress but again i love my people i love my
00:27:43.840
culture it's just the the government like the greedy motherfuckers the old ancient dudes that
00:27:50.960
are still running the country still finding ways to just rip people off embezzle money all that kind
00:27:56.960
of stuff it happens worldwide but it happens really bad in nigeria and then they're just kind of selling
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the country to different entities and whatnot but in time the young generation the guys now who have
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grown up with the internet they're the ones who are seeing the bullshit and i guess changing it yeah
00:28:15.280
um ufc was saying that they might do their first uh start a fight center in africa how did that has
00:28:22.560
to be is that feel kind of cool to you do you feel any connection to that 100 like i feel that's
00:28:27.280
bro that's crazy humbly i feel like guys like myself kamaru and francis i've even known before sokoju
00:28:35.440
paved the paved the paved the way you know for them to do that and now dricas duplessis he's an
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african champion i would never ever take that away from him even though he tried to do that from us
00:28:46.320
but um yeah so we're paving the way for the next generation and i think i don't even think i know
00:28:50.720
i've said this once we grasp this mma shit once we grasp it because i've seen the talent out there
00:28:59.120
i don't look at me i'm scrawny i'm the i keep saying i'm the runt of my people you look at guys
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like kamaru and francis there's so many of them just walking around just rocking the streets brick
00:29:10.800
laying mechanics and you see them they just brawling as
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fuck working at a pet shop yeah honestly yeah you're like man you you missed out you should be a fighter
00:29:22.880
but like there's so many of them over there and they don't even have the best nutrition sometimes
00:29:27.360
they don't have the best of you know what we have so oh it's gonna change the game bruh
00:29:31.680
and now that they can see that's happened now there's four african champions that have come
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from this the country or the continent of africa sorry it's it's crazy yeah exactly because the
00:29:39.920
level of inspiration of like some kid laying he sees the fight he gets off of his brother's phone
00:29:44.720
he's watching or something and then he lays in his bed and the electricity in his body i get the
00:29:49.360
messages all the time walking like this could happen to me like something could happen to me they see
00:29:54.880
that we've done it so it's like the four minute mile we've unlocked that in your brain like it's
00:29:58.960
possible even me when i told my parents i wanted to fight no like yeah we just left the country yeah
00:30:04.720
yeah yeah so it's like why why do you want to fight no no no no because it was my parents thought it
00:30:09.280
was beneath me they wanted me to do something that was more prestigious like being like my dad is an
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accountant or lawyer or you know doctor but my grades weren't they weren't shit yeah yeah i was that
00:30:23.920
guy so i was i was not cut out for that even though i wanted to poirier man yeah he's like
00:30:28.240
i got eighth grade he's like actually i did it twice though so i was like well i guess that kind
00:30:31.440
of counts i did form three twice well some classes i had to repeat but again
00:30:38.720
yeah i wasn't cut out for it it was my brain was always just wired differently whenever
00:30:43.760
i might be dyslexic i don't know i've never really looked into diagnosing myself with anything because i
00:30:48.720
felt i don't want it to limit me so i just but i know the way i read words sometimes like it uh
00:30:56.000
it's it's even when i read a book sometimes i won't i won't get the whole thing so i have to go back
00:31:00.080
and read that's why i love audio books and podcasts so i can just listen and do other stuff but yeah
00:31:05.440
reading is a little bit weird to me but um yeah uh i lost my train of thought we were just talking
00:31:10.560
about the inspiration for the kids i mean just like the fact that some kid could like they wanted me to be
00:31:15.200
something prestigious but nah i i just i'm a dreamer i'm a daydreamer i could sit there and
00:31:20.160
i still i still do emotes as a 34 year old yeah i'll just be in the gym and you'll see me emoting
00:31:25.920
but my head is somewhere else oh yeah same man i think sometimes yeah i got late to the emote game
00:31:32.640
i think somehow and a lot of the shit's still dropping off sometimes you know i just didn't make
00:31:37.520
my own ones up and i yeah i'm a creative person and i feel like it's just how you express yourself
00:31:42.640
i'm this is this game of life it's it's it's a game of life it's dangerous game of life if you
00:31:48.800
make it but i feel like you can play the game how you want to play the game this is your avatar this
00:31:53.280
is your character you can customize this however you want regardless of what anyone else thinks you
00:31:59.200
know as long as you're not hurting anyone unless it's not on the contract but just doing you it's the
00:32:04.400
best way new zealand's kind of interesting like that i think there's a lot of interesting characters here
00:32:09.120
oh yeah i'll take you down k road it's just up the up the street somewhere ketamine road
00:32:14.320
no no yes yeah it could be it could be because there's some street over here we've seen some
00:32:21.440
people you got a guy just hold it up like this you can't tell if he's on like meth or yoga
00:32:26.720
no it's it's crazy on k road it's not too bad like in the daytime oh you now you get some crazies
00:32:33.200
yeah you get some i've almost been uh what was one a guy tried to stab me with a stapler oh this
00:32:39.040
is outside the sky tower i finished this was probably like six seven years ago and he was
00:32:43.920
getting cheeky or something and he wanted you to stay here yeah or you might leave yeah i was like
00:32:49.840
the fuck like a state wait first of all you're homeless where'd you get a stapler from
00:32:55.680
like what's he gonna do like hit me with a stapler but yeah people are crazy though yeah drugs
00:33:00.000
will make you do weird things yeah i'm i feel lucky i mean i went down that road but i'm not
00:33:03.920
down anymore that's good um yeah if they well what's interesting too i think for africa is
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say if they um if you start to get organized fighting in a place right and it's real organized
00:33:18.240
it almost takes the value off of the fighting people are doing for no you know what i'm saying
00:33:24.800
the streets right it starts to be like i'm if you're a street fighter you almost feel like i'm dumb
00:33:29.840
out here because that's where at least the you know it starts to change where the focus of it is
00:33:34.320
so i could see that being super helpful to like just curb a lot of that that type of violence and
00:33:39.200
stuff that they have i think um even even me it's been a long time since anyone's tried me in the
00:33:45.200
streets because now i'm kind of known but before that when i was only known in auckland you get
00:33:50.240
people who just you know they're drunk i'm drunk on a night out they think oh this guy oh yeah you're
00:33:55.680
a tough guy you're that kickboxing guy hey but i'm just like bro i'm not gonna whip your ass for
00:34:00.560
free i get paid for this yeah i'm not even working yeah i'm not nah why would i whip your ass for free
00:34:05.920
like it's even now my knockouts in the ufc you get a bonus 50k uh and i get paid crazy money to fight
00:34:12.960
um but why would i do that for free and also if i if i hurt someone it's assault with a deadly weapon
00:34:18.640
because i'm a trained professional so i don't want to put that's why i have people think i have
00:34:23.200
security for me no it's for people yeah for the public because sometimes people will try and get
00:34:31.440
a reaction out of you and i'm a very patient guy as i've said and sometimes no oh yeah i'm glad i have
00:34:40.880
them to be like right let's change the situation so that way i don't get in trouble for yeah i've had a
00:34:47.040
couple instances where it's like uh i needed a security person because my perspective wasn't
00:34:52.480
good no like people that have come up and start filming you and oh they're with you though yeah
00:34:57.120
and they're trying to get a reaction right yep yep and i like yeah one time i like i don't even want
00:35:02.640
to talk about it too much because then people are gonna start doing it more but yeah it was uh i'm
00:35:06.800
just glad yeah i'm glad it just ended because it could have got bad because then you get heated and
00:35:11.920
next thing you're a human being you're a man you got testosterone the song tries to punk you you're
00:35:15.760
like who the fuck are you yeah okay this allegedly allegedly i might have slapped a couple people
00:35:22.640
yeah allegedly because okay example i hate when they do this man like i'm walking through a crowd
00:35:28.240
and a guy just let's go out of nowhere just slaps me on the back like four times
00:35:36.320
i was like bro it's kind of like when will smith did no he did that he did it to what's it called
00:35:41.840
chris rock not like that but he did it to this reporter one time where he backhanded him like because
00:35:45.200
the guy tried to like he was messing with him trying to kiss him he's like what the fuck man
00:35:48.640
like yeah you know like some of this is a reaction what are you gonna do yeah i think well i mean they
00:35:55.120
say what hit first or if you get wait what do you call it wait till you get hit or if they
00:35:59.680
fuck with you but i'm like nah i'm not like chill song i can't let you get close i can't let once you
00:36:04.400
break that barrier that range and you seem like a threat it's i have to defend myself yeah and your
00:36:11.040
instincts are so tuned to that shit that you got to trust your instincts my friends don't scare me
00:36:15.120
anymore it was funny at first but they don't scare me anymore jump scares because i don't like them
00:36:21.440
oh you know when they try and scare me i'm very quick oh yeah yeah i but luckily i'm controlled
00:36:27.600
with what i do but i can just turn around and pop yeah some kung fu shit and then like i know yeah
00:36:32.320
yeah yeah watching you like it feels like you're watching like a um
00:36:38.240
uh fucking violent drawing or something you know damn i like that that's interesting no good
00:36:43.200
attitude um violent drawing you were at you know one the one i think my first fight you ever saw was
00:36:48.160
me versus gastelum yep it was amazing i got to meet your brother you guys walked by in the hallway
00:36:52.560
yeah that's right and i got to meet david man and it was uh is that when my face was all lumpy
00:36:55.840
like a potato bro that was a insane fight classic one of the best fights in the history of mankind it
00:37:04.000
was unbelievable uh yeah that fight i think was and then that that was also poirier and holloway were
00:37:09.760
on that card they fucking set it up for the core main event god so then for us to have to do that at
00:37:14.800
the main event wow so cool yeah um if there's a fight in in africa like the first card is that something
00:37:23.680
that you i'm i'm come on this yes definitely hundred percent it should have happened a long
00:37:29.680
time ago but again so many red tapes to get over dude it would be like the thriller in manila remember
00:37:34.960
that yeah oh i mean it's good we're going to africa yeah yeah people are going to be outside just
00:37:41.920
i mean honestly i already see i've seen it i've seen this yeah i've said this many times but the shower
00:37:47.600
is the most honest place on the planet i feel i can just be i'm in my birthday suit and i have the
00:37:52.800
element of water running over me so it helps me just create all this white space and i could just
00:37:57.600
go in my head and just create and i've seen i've predicted i've manifested i've made things happen in
00:38:02.160
there that come to fruition and i've seen it so many times when i get to to south africa or morocco
00:38:09.040
and nigeria wherever it is the event is when i get there and my people see me it's just it's it's
00:38:15.920
mob city it becomes it's like that when i when i last time i went to nigeria at the airport there was
00:38:21.040
just it was insane the police officers the the street thugs the area boys who are doing 419 like
00:38:27.120
they all just everybody yeah they even the people like in the comas are fucking
00:38:32.800
the dead bodies on the road it's like oh yeah i'll die tomorrow yeah nah but i love i love the love i
00:38:38.880
get out there man i love the love i get out there well the energy of that would be crazy um do you and
00:38:43.440
would that probably be verse ddp for the belt you think drickus yeah definitely um oh there's some
00:38:50.160
things that were meant to happen uh they summoned me they summoned me i'm sure this is out there now
00:38:55.120
eugene said some stuff but they summoned me they summoned me for 300 and i was like yep let's roll
00:39:01.360
but their side didn't want it so i was like well fuck it i'm just gonna keep who ddp side yeah they
00:39:07.600
didn't want it but i you know they just fought strickland so maybe he had a little bit niggly injuries
00:39:13.280
and stuff but hey we all we all got little you know niggles and whatnot so yeah um but i've i've
00:39:20.080
fought injured for the last how many fights so that's why i took time off just to let my body
00:39:25.440
heal and it has healed and yeah i'm sure there'll be more injuries it just happens through training
00:39:31.280
like what we do for work i can't even imagine it just constantly there's always something your finger
00:39:35.200
your toe your back your legs your whatever it might be your ankle yeah i hurt my neck the other day
00:39:40.240
they're just looking for something yeah what out here yeah i was just kind of looking like that
00:39:44.240
and i was like ah fuck something got me be like that man well you're 43 i forget yeah it's it's
00:39:49.600
crazy man do you train at all what do you do right yep i do yoga i'm nice about 12 miles a week yeah
00:39:55.280
i'm doing pretty good man nice because on stage i want to be able to show as much as i can
00:39:59.920
dexterity you're very animated yeah you know it's real important uh because i like to move and also
00:40:05.280
when you move sometimes a new thought can come into your head because you hit emotion and that's
00:40:10.160
what keeps me inspired that's all dancing that's what that's what happens that's how you freestyle
00:40:14.720
wow next movement it just leads to the next movement and it can create a new thought that's
00:40:19.520
beautiful the way you put that i didn't realize it was like that for you as well yes sometimes i'll be
00:40:23.440
like oh man if i just hit that and then it's almost like if you use your instrument it will use you
00:40:31.920
kind of in a way and you know sometimes i feel that yeah um what about like yeah demetrius
00:40:39.680
johnson was talking about to beat ddp you would need uh you need to brush up on your ground game
00:40:45.920
oh for me yeah yeah i got something i got a little something do you prefer to fight guys where it's
00:40:51.680
more like because some people like to fight up top like poor is like that he likes to and it's fun to
00:40:55.920
watch him there you know and some of the fights where it's on the ground honestly respect 100 but they
00:41:01.120
can be a little less exciting yeah um especially for the fans because they're being there since
00:41:06.720
five hours six hours drinking and they're just like i'm standing my ref i enjoy grappling i enjoy i love
00:41:12.800
it uh but no one's being able to keep me in that position that's the thing in how many ufc fights and
00:41:19.280
people think oh he's about to get exposed in this fight it's like actually only person would know jan but
00:41:24.240
he didn't do anything he just used his weight didn't try and finish me yeah really try and beat me up to
00:41:29.600
the last like eight seconds but yeah he just wanted to win the round so he kept me and used
00:41:33.680
his weight and i wasn't really used to that at the minute at the time so um it's a good point yeah
00:41:39.520
costa couldn't catch yeah a lot of the guys they can't catch you so you can't say hey this guy doesn't
00:41:44.400
like to go to the ground it's like well if you can't get him to the ground he shouldn't lay down
00:41:48.560
there and meet a guy down there what am i gonna butt scoot be like come on buddy i'm gonna get you
00:41:53.040
nah um i'm great on the feet so i like to keep the fight standing but i do enjoy the clinch i enjoy
00:41:59.200
the clinch i enjoy i enjoy the ground as well but in the gym it's different than in a fight and i'm
00:42:04.800
getting more comfortable on the ground in the gym which makes me you know even better in a fight but
00:42:09.520
um yeah just no one's been able to like take me and keep me there to see anything yeah yeah that
00:42:16.480
shouldn't be like yeah that's not a fault of yours it's interesting because sometimes you'll just hear a
00:42:20.400
a lead yeah yeah you'll hear a lead and you'll be like yeah that's right yeah not as i mean fake
00:42:24.880
news it happens all the time they just throw something out there hope it sticks and everyone
00:42:29.440
latches onto it and then that can just be clicks yeah clicks views attention that turns to money for
00:42:35.360
them is that the same in new zealand you feel like yeah everywhere worldwide now everyone got these so
00:42:40.560
everyone just thinks like you people just run up on you start filming like someone tried to get a
00:42:46.640
randomly what was i doing i was about to go fishing so i was filling up the skis
00:42:49.680
and then um a guy waiting there watching me i was like you want to take a pic okay let's get step
00:42:54.240
away from the gas pump because it says no phone we took a pic and he goes oh hold on hold on no no
00:42:59.120
so um what i was like what are you doing i'm not like a random pop-up interview yeah you think you
00:43:04.640
are tmz i wonder what may like in our society i guess we just see that more because you see like
00:43:10.320
younger younger people do it without even thinking that it's weird entitlement yeah it's entitlement and
00:43:17.360
i've had people even say like oh but you're famous i'm like no i'm a human being like no yeah just
00:43:24.080
because look i've always said this fuck fame but i like the perks if i had known what fame would have
00:43:29.120
brought i would have just rather been rich you know i only wanted to get famous so i could be rich so i
00:43:34.400
can have money so i can do whatever i wanted to whenever i wanted to the life i live right now so but
00:43:41.680
the fame was not what i expected and i'm grateful for it but at the same time i had to i had to learn
00:43:48.000
how to adapt to the newfound fame when it came oh it's heartbreaking some of it yeah i mean people
00:43:52.800
don't want to hear that i know it's like people don't want to hear that a part of you disappears
00:43:56.560
that you didn't even realize was about to leave and i didn't even get to write everything down that i
00:44:00.640
knew about that guy and that's the shit that sometimes makes me um kind of bum like i don't know i'm
00:44:07.360
not trying to sound like self-pity or anything but be vulnerable yeah there's a cost to everything
00:44:12.400
you know and there's a part of me it's like man i i don't even i i wish i remembered a little bit
00:44:17.360
more what i was like because i really liked myself then and then now it's like a different self you
00:44:22.560
almost have to learn about a new self yeah you have to make make peace with your new life yes that's the
00:44:28.240
thing yeah make peace with your new life this is it now this is my life now i think i did that about
00:44:32.000
two years ago because okay i used to love grocery shopping i'd have my headphones in and i'd just be
00:44:40.000
blah blah just listen to a podcast or music or maybe yeah you know sliding around on the cart
00:44:45.680
that was fun i don't do that anymore you know because the grocery store you know you just get
00:44:51.280
every step can i get a photo and then becomes a meet and greet and i'm like i know boundaries i've
00:44:55.680
had that before where people just around me and my boy matt was like bro you're just like a toy that
00:45:00.160
passed around because people were just like oh my turn my turn my turn and some of them won't
00:45:04.240
even know anything about fighting that's the worst and then they just who are you my husband said
00:45:08.240
something oh my god the the worst is when especially when bitches trying like who are you i'm like it's
00:45:14.560
all good don't worry about it no but like oh that kills me yeah who are you and i'm like baby who are
00:45:18.640
you i don't know who you are either it's it's mutual they do it on purpose to lower you but they think
00:45:23.840
it does but i'm like bitch i don't give a fuck like it's like who are you who are you i'm like
00:45:30.000
well who are you and the thing i actually enjoy meeting people for the first time because it's
00:45:35.680
rare for me these days so when i meet someone and they're like oh i'm sorry i don't know you're
00:45:39.600
i'm it's okay i'm israel what's your name oh nice to meet you and i can actually meet them without them
00:45:45.040
having a preconceived notion of who they think i am from tv or youtube or my promos or anything like
00:45:51.040
that they can actually meet me for me face value right so i enjoy that but people think
00:45:56.560
i because of how they would be if they were in my position they think i'm gonna be like everybody
00:46:02.240
knows me no matter where i go i still introduce myself yeah because it's just rude if you don't
00:46:08.080
it's weird when people don't but no i agree one of the things that i miss i used to love meeting people
00:46:12.560
it was one of my favorite things to do because it was like a new it was almost like a brand new show
00:46:16.320
you got a new chance to feel a certain way with somebody you could brighten their day you could
00:46:21.680
do it you could have anything the world was any all the options were there yeah and then the fact
00:46:27.200
that that's not the case um sometimes now it's uh it's a blessing i'm not saying that but it is a
00:46:33.920
bummer sometimes because i miss that thing like oh here's a new like space i get to play in you could
00:46:39.120
make things up it was just fun i love that i said new people or new countries whenever i go there like
00:46:44.080
i was just in switzerland and i met a couple new people but i was there for some uh some work and
00:46:50.400
um yeah new culture new food even the weather was muggy but i loved it i was like i'm i'm experiencing
00:46:57.040
what it's like to be in switzerland when it's cold and i saw the sun out of three days i saw the sun
00:47:01.840
once wow you know and the guy who even brought me there was like yeah last time i saw the sun was
00:47:06.400
like two weeks ago you know it's different out there but i enjoyed it i enjoyed the the the the vibe
00:47:12.080
and just meeting new people it's like this world's too big man like we can't all just be
00:47:18.080
in our own little bubble yeah it's so important to get out man even coming here was interesting
00:47:23.040
coming to new zealand first time yeah seeing what it's like it's i had no idea what it's gonna be
00:47:27.840
like yeah people are like we don't have any uh we don't have any uh snakes you know yeah we don't
00:47:33.920
nothing dangerous not though not the not these kinds but there's some snakes in the streets
00:47:37.520
oh like you don't have a fucking ozone layer either bro my god i'm telling you when you got
00:47:43.520
here how black were you were no i was black i was black were you really yeah i swear but because i've
00:47:47.760
been here i think i've been in two light skin now semi light skin in two days people are going to
00:47:53.760
start calling me melly around here i think no but um for me i went fishing the other day uh no this is
00:47:59.600
this one the other week so i thought you know what i'm black i'm protected by melanin by god yeah by god
00:48:05.520
by god amen ordained but um yeah for me i was i don't need sunblock but i put on my tattoos just
00:48:11.040
to kind of protect them but then my skin started peeling the next day like my shoulders because the
00:48:15.280
life jacket was on me so my shoulders were peeling my neck my face i was like what the
00:48:19.120
fuck is this and then someone told me oh your sunburned i was like what and i was like oh that's right
00:48:23.680
because in nigeria or in the continent of africa we have an ozone layer they don't have that here
00:48:28.960
so when i get hit by the sun here it's yeah it's like god's not even wearing a condom
00:48:32.960
it's just raw raw dogging you the sun is it's really crazy you're like have you been to any
00:48:41.520
beaches here yet we're going tomorrow to maybe wa haiku or why oh wajiki island okay yeah you
00:48:48.480
enjoy it there yeah some nice beaches there yeah people are like black sand ones people like you
00:48:53.280
got to get out we just got him people like you got to leave you got to get out you need to go to
00:48:57.600
it's just like everybody wants you to leave it's like we just got here there's some fun stuff in
00:49:01.440
auckland auckland's fun i like the city because yeah what makes you stay here because
00:49:05.120
my gym my gym really definitely my gym 100 i would have been fucked off by now like gone so i'm just
00:49:11.200
gypsying traveling around but my gym keeps me here because they're my people and they're the ones
00:49:15.920
that got me to where i'm at so that's loyalty and yeah that's huge you got great guys over there
00:49:20.960
dan hooker's there yeah i love dan is he cool guy he's the best he's the best bro he seems so
00:49:25.360
entertaining yeah he's he's an asshole but he's the best yeah uh cara france yeah um there's so
00:49:33.120
many guys i'm sure that i don't know i don't know a lot of the new ones coming up as well like carlos
00:49:36.880
is now in the ufc kevin's in the ufc even tyson pedro is training with us now tyson will be coming
00:49:41.840
tonight um to see the show oh sweet man yeah so i i can't wait for that how was last night that was
00:49:47.520
the show it was good yeah yeah i thought it was good it was kind of scary because you don't know
00:49:52.560
new territory say yeah and you don't know you'll be telling a story you're like oh
00:49:56.160
they don't have this business about the right there's a relate yeah so now you've gone six
00:50:01.200
minutes into the story you just have to give up you're like a senior citizen yeah i get the
00:50:06.160
references sometimes when i like maybe even eddie murphy delarius there was a few references i didn't
00:50:11.360
understand when i watched it the first time because i was like i didn't i you know i didn't live in
00:50:16.080
america so i didn't know what he was talking about but yeah you get older so you understand like ah
00:50:20.560
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00:52:53.280
yeah if not i would have been gone i would have been gypsying around but also my family's here i've
00:52:58.000
got siblings in australia as well they're they're gypsying around but i think the gym keeps me here
00:53:03.360
and i like the fact that new zealand's new zealand's not too grandiose in a sense like auckland's not
00:53:10.800
so big where it's gonna take me unless it's traffic it's gonna take me like hour and something to get
00:53:17.200
across town you know yeah i don't like that in sydney or certain australian territories it takes you
00:53:23.680
an hour and a half to go from here to here and i'm like that's a no from me yeah yeah yeah no i think
00:53:30.080
this is a it's a super unique place i'll say this it's one of the most unique places that i've been
00:53:34.720
i wish i was gonna get to travel around the country more i'm gonna come back and do it again and south
00:53:40.320
island next time that's what everybody says and you're like i wish i would have asked anybody yeah
00:53:44.640
south island but um but it's great though it's been everybody's been super nice like um it's
00:53:50.640
interesting what how what people think of what life means here it's kind of interesting i find it's a
00:53:56.800
bit more compared to the maybe where you're from laid back yeah yeah they don't take themselves as
00:54:04.240
serious you know and i think it allows for a lot more peace probably in their own world yeah and um
00:54:10.080
a lot of individuality here and that's one thing i could see like because you are like a hyper
00:54:14.720
individual it seems like so i could see it'd be like oh this makes sense why this is a very
00:54:21.040
this is what it cultivated me in a sense because i was trying to fit in but i wasn't meant to fit in
00:54:26.000
you know i don't even sound like i'm from here right because i was influenced by tv and all that kind of
00:54:30.160
stuff but um individuality here or individualism you still get that crabs in the back at bucket
00:54:37.680
mentality like people will try and do that oh people don't want you being fancy here they don't
00:54:43.600
want you getting braces here nah man it's kind of like hey bro you're gonna be the
00:54:47.920
fucking mayor man they want yeah they want you to be like they'll try to support you i think it's
00:54:52.560
worldwide but it's a weird thing with australia and new zealand i can't remember what the history is
00:54:57.840
but you're downplaying your achievement yeah a lot of humility yeah no but that's that's not
00:55:02.800
that's not real humility though okay that's that's bullshit that's like saying like you don't want to
00:55:09.280
seem bigger than yourself like if i know i'm the man i'm gonna say i'm the fucking man like i know i
00:55:14.640
know who i am because i'm treated you know wherever i go but they don't like you saying that outwardly
00:55:21.360
here because it's not humble but i'm like nah that's not that's that's being fake because i'm not
00:55:26.320
really expressing how i feel like example one of the national teams will win something crazy like
00:55:32.160
the world cup or whatever they get on the mic and it's like oh yeah no we did all right yeah we just
00:55:37.360
want to thank the lord jesus for i'm like bro say how you feel say with your chest like we
00:55:42.480
fucking did it yeah like you know like i want i want people to express and i've said this already there
00:55:47.520
was a viral video that went when i won this um sports sportsman of the year in new zealand award
00:55:52.240
and i gave the speech and it went viral for a while but it wasn't going to change the culture
00:55:57.680
but just i'm just stating the fact i was like like i'm being humble is when dan hooker punches me in the
00:56:02.640
face that's real humility right because then i have to address like okay how do i deal with that you
00:56:07.440
know when um carlos kicks me in the leg you know that's real humility but me trying to be confident
00:56:13.840
yeah but me trying to like say be subservient to make other people feel feel better about
00:56:19.760
themselves put it this way even recently it's interesting it's like you don't want to be
00:56:23.680
subservient to your own spirit yeah i know you know it's like because i feel myself a disservice right
00:56:28.720
yeah so for me even recently i realized how do i put this without seeing it seeming pompous i realized i've
00:56:36.560
lived i've lived the peasant life if you put it this way i i you know i've my last summer my last
00:56:44.720
job was september 4th 2013 next day i moved to china i planned for months to make that happen i failed
00:56:51.840
three times before it actually happened um i've lived that life i've lived for the weekend all that
00:56:57.280
kind of stuff but then the bigger i got i still fell into that trap where i didn't want to seem like
00:57:02.240
i was too cool you know oh yeah i get afraid a lot of times of uh being proud i'm almost it's a
00:57:09.520
weird thing i'm almost being proud of yourself yeah you should be you don't want people to know
00:57:13.120
you're proud of yourself yeah but i didn't want to seem like i'm too cool so i still try and
00:57:16.800
relate to the commoners if you will like when i'm out you know i'm at a bar you want to seem normal
00:57:22.000
yeah i want and i am normal and you are and you are but i can still walk around the street but i just
00:57:25.760
know i know i'm the shit but i know i ain't shit that's like a a good balance to have it's always
00:57:30.640
fluctuating i know i'm the shit and sometimes i ain't shit so it's a good it's a good balance to
00:57:35.920
have i think it's a good balance for anybody it is and yeah you're right i think the society here maybe
00:57:41.280
they have a different approach to some of that but and maybe some of that needs to evolve you know but
00:57:46.000
yeah um yeah i think it's it's okay to you're just learning about your own spirit and how do i
00:57:52.960
navigate this no one gave me a book of being like this is how you now you're famous here's what you do
00:57:58.560
nah even me sometimes uh i might not be in the mood i might be having a day the day my cat died
00:58:04.560
i was having a really day and the guy at the gas station again was like oh my god bro bro hold
00:58:09.280
up hold up bro adesonia bro can you talk to my car i'm like uh bro my cat just died this morning i
00:58:15.120
don't really i'm not and he's like oh oh good gee i'm like and i felt bad and i was like give me the
00:58:20.800
phone and then i grabbed the phone i was talking to him i was like wait hang on
00:58:23.840
nigga i'm pumping gas like fuck go away i was like bro and then i'm a bad guy forever
00:58:29.040
and then that's the only story they have about me but again i'm comfortable with that now when
00:58:32.720
people have a bad story about me i'm like they probably deserved it because when people bring
00:58:37.200
manners and respect i reflect that back and they get more out of me i stick around with them and uh
00:58:42.480
even if even if i i'm too i'm in a rush i still try and make people feel seen i still want to make
00:58:49.280
them feel like we connected yeah you know just even for a brief moment like bro i'm not doing
00:58:53.760
photos right now i'm in a rush but i love you i love you i love you and i just move yeah but again
00:58:58.080
i'll try and connect with them and let them know i really appreciate you but um i think it's the best
00:59:02.080
that you can do man i really do i'm human yeah i'm human and it's a crazy thing that you don't learn
00:59:07.680
how to be and it's there's there's so many like nice parts about it but there's there's parts about it
00:59:13.440
that are like especially nowadays with like the viralness of things you can't ever go back you
00:59:20.400
know and so then it's um anyway we're gonna start to sound like a couple of psychopaths
00:59:25.120
if we keep talking about it yeah but it's interesting no but the thing is it's relatable
00:59:29.520
it's to you and me it's relatable because you you live this life as well and i don't get to talk
00:59:33.600
about this with most people that's a good point man like my friends they can understand because
00:59:36.880
they see it you know but most people don't get it yeah you know they'll never get it because
00:59:41.920
they're not in this position yeah i've been afraid to like i've been afraid sometimes to get
00:59:45.840
like like i have a nice home you know i've been afraid to like even go look sometimes at like a
00:59:49.840
real like fancy home or something or maybe they had a little bit more space or a garage where i could
00:59:54.400
put two cars or something you know like you can only put one in your garage now yeah really so i just
00:59:59.120
like because i think there's a big part of me that humble well it's like i don't know who would i be
01:00:05.200
yeah who i don't know how i who i am if i'm in this if you have an extra space for the car yeah
01:00:12.400
no i think it's like i just i know i it's so much of my life i've been able to like
01:00:18.320
control like manage what's going on and it's gotten a little bit tougher for sure over the past few years
01:00:24.640
but i'm like if i had another element then will i even know my like am i going to get further away
01:00:30.080
from like you'll be fine myself i guess knowing who you are you'll be fine you'll be able to handle
01:00:34.720
having a nicer house it's just things are easier you know but money would have changed me if it was
01:00:42.480
going to change me would have changed me years ago probably about uh four years ago it would have
01:00:47.120
changed me if money was going to change me you get to a certain point when you make so many m's and
01:00:53.440
you just like it doesn't really matter because you're already as long as i can put a full tank of gas in
01:00:58.320
i don't even check the price of gas i just put a full tank in that's when i know i'm good like
01:01:02.800
i'm good because i remember the days when i'd be like yo um can i get can i get ten dollars on number
01:01:07.760
five please thank you i remember those days i did that i was me even five dollars just five dollars
01:01:13.040
on number five please thank you very much appreciate that yeah but now i can just go fill boom i didn't
01:01:17.280
gotta go inside i used my card bang that's when i know i'm comfortable and as long as i can do that
01:01:22.880
i'm good anything else is just bonuses yeah you know it's just bonuses like i said i would
01:01:27.520
rather be rich than famous but i do i do appreciate the fame because it brought me
01:01:32.240
this life so i'm grateful when you're a good entertainer and that's one of the interesting
01:01:36.000
things to see too it's like it's a blessing and it's like one of the cool things about being a
01:01:42.080
good entertainer is sometimes god will even move this entertainer along so more people can see him
01:01:47.200
yeah you know it's like i was interviewing this guy billy strings a couple weeks ago this guitarist and
01:01:51.360
he grew up in uh michigan like in it just like drug and like oh wow big drug culture like people
01:01:57.840
all around him dying you know opioids everything and he has a big a tough time with like people
01:02:04.800
coming to see him and paying tickets to see and stuff and and i was like but dude you don't know
01:02:09.040
like the guy who's cleaning up after your show he might be listening to your music that's making him
01:02:15.120
keeping his day you know it's like sometimes god uses all of us as like candles i feel like at
01:02:20.080
certain well vessels yeah we can all be used at any moment any given moment i feel you need
01:02:24.960
another water i'm good for now okay yeah now you're you're going you're great on the mic so you've
01:02:29.680
definitely been a vessel you know at times yeah i think that was how i actually became a fan of you
01:02:36.080
wasn't just your comedy it was it was it was um one clip if you probably scroll up to our first
01:02:40.880
conversation i would i would have sent it to you it was something of you being vulnerable on the mic
01:02:45.440
and i i think you even got teary and i was i related to what you said and i was just like and that's
01:02:49.440
when i dm'd you and i was like oh this guy follows me so i followed you back and then
01:02:53.520
talked like bro i really appreciate you being this vulnerable i can't remember what it was but i felt
01:02:58.480
that i felt that i think even bert kreischer same thing he was talking to tom and talking about
01:03:03.760
his daughters and something and how he feels like he's not doing enough and what yeah and i was just
01:03:08.160
like that shit hits me bro i'm a softy man oh yeah i'm a softy i'm i'm like i'm hard as
01:03:15.680
fuck because look what i did for a job but i am a softy like oh my heart strings sometimes some
01:03:21.680
something will just hit me and i'm just like yeah
01:03:26.080
oh i see two people hug at an airport and i just start oh you know yeah or somebody waiting
01:03:30.240
with flowers for somebody to come i'm like yeah those moments man yeah i'm crying in the handicapped
01:03:37.200
no it's interesting man well i don't think i started to evolve like i got into recovery from
01:03:45.600
drugs and alcohol like probably six years ago and that's when i started for the first time in my life
01:03:50.560
before that i'd been kind of a bad bad it wasn't crazy bad but it was getting like a little bit
01:03:55.760
you were just living your life yeah but it was like i didn't i wanted to have some cocaine sometimes so i
01:04:01.200
got afraid to have a beer because i was worried i would have cocaine one leads to the other yeah and i
01:04:05.600
never had a drinking problem but i was just if i do have a beer then if somebody has cocaine i'm done
01:04:10.240
yeah even me right now like so i lost my license because of this dui oh yeah why yeah i know first
01:04:16.320
one but it was a silly mistake i had dinner two cocktails it's it's out now but um then there was
01:04:22.720
some reports i couldn't speak about it then because there was still an ongoing court case but then
01:04:26.640
there was reports coming out saying he was two times over the legal limit and all this and there's no
01:04:30.640
excuse i just if i'm gonna go out out yeah i have people to drive for me but this was just
01:04:35.600
dinner two cocktails so i was 0.07 over the legal limit and everyone else that they've had this and
01:04:43.600
they've had their license they were like how come you weren't in court all i got was a fine and they
01:04:47.760
did and i'm like yeah but you're not me this new zealand media finally got me so they wanted to
01:04:53.360
guard him they want to parade him but i i handled it well and um shout out to the judge for being
01:04:58.080
kind and thoughtful and could see this is just a silly mistake that this guy can learn from he's
01:05:03.840
done more good than and this doesn't take away from that so i'm i'm grateful for that but um
01:05:13.120
fuck last year oh really yeah i just look i i went i had this procedure done with uh
01:05:22.320
stem cells last year and then i was like you know what i want my body to heal properly so i just kind
01:05:27.120
of stained yeah keep all the negative toxins out exactly and i started i have my one of my boys
01:05:31.760
who's a chef for 13 years he works for me now he every day i eat is a culinary experience one of the
01:05:37.280
best investments i've made in the last four years really i love it oh my god fuck buying all that kind
01:05:42.720
of shit like get a chef it's the best if you love food and you can't afford it get a chef holy
01:05:48.160
shit oh damn it's the best every day quesadillas and everything every he can his phrase i can cook
01:05:53.360
anything oh my god he can cook anything so for me um i would have something i would have fish at night
01:05:59.280
i think we're gonna have horse maybe sometime in two weeks i want to try some horse tacos bro they
01:06:03.440
got reindeer in damn sweden yeah i was at a restaurant they pull up with the fucking rd bro
01:06:09.360
i live in china i i didn't question too many things i ate there but i ate some things
01:06:13.840
yeah i ate some i know i've eaten donkey i don't have dog or cat i can't remember i've eaten pigeons
01:06:21.440
eating alligator oh yeah um my buddy just got a read on some um penguin meat ooh damn penguin what
01:06:29.680
would that be like because it's fluffy feathers and then it's i guess insulation and then meat would
01:06:35.920
it be lean no they're fat they're fat they're blubber they'd be a little bit of marbling yeah
01:06:39.840
yeah kind of a marble chicken yeah ooh it's a bird yeah it might be a marble chicken like a steak
01:06:45.840
chicken yeah well do you have to cook it medium rare or do you have to cook it all the way through
01:06:49.520
i don't know i hope it's headless though the head looks too cute that's the thing i think their
01:06:54.400
their pr is so cute you're like happy feet yeah yeah you're like damn people
01:07:00.080
sorry happy feet yeah they're the damn french bulldogs of the of the north you know actual yeah they
01:07:06.000
kind of look like that without the face yeah so maybe i don't know but i'm i gotta email him back
01:07:10.000
but um so when you do look at like so you've had some time off and stuff when you was it like did
01:07:15.920
you want to recalibrate what you because you've you've gotten to achieve your dreams right yeah and
01:07:21.520
there's something over and over and over and over again yeah like i mean it's unprecedented you know
01:07:26.000
like you've you mastered what you set out to do so then it's interesting because now you're a master
01:07:32.480
who is um who's already achieved everything you can achieve in the game but there's still more that
01:07:39.920
i want to do for myself right that's what i i i guess i'm wondering like how does that how do you
01:07:43.920
start to separate those two and what is that even you know i haven't mastered the game yet i'm still
01:07:48.080
learning every day even right now we're working again on my jab because i'm changing it up now because
01:07:54.160
there's so much footage on me people can watch the smart coaches and they can kind of game plan like my
01:07:59.200
question mark it was fucking everyone up early on got to like maybe after the robber whitaker
01:08:04.880
fight maybe the romero fight no costa fight actually costa avoided it but he he didn't fall
01:08:10.800
he fell for a different kick but um so from that five people kind of like know the question marks
01:08:15.920
coming so they're all scared of it my jab was vicious it still is but i'm just bringing it back
01:08:21.280
i'm tuning it up again so it's it's it's constant evolution constant learning every time and my
01:08:26.400
grappling as well i want to show it off i do want to show it off in the cage i did a little bit
01:08:30.560
in my fight with alex in new york a little bit but um you want to more yeah i want to things you want
01:08:37.200
to do okay oh wow fuck the belt and all that it's more about highlights yeah for me i'm a highlight guy
01:08:43.280
yeah i know that's what's interesting it's like that's what i was wondering i was like does he miss
01:08:47.280
some of the trash talking and just the fucking you know like when it's raw when it's honest yeah like
01:08:52.320
me and costa it was good because i didn't like the guy he didn't like me barracino is that his
01:08:57.440
name barracina i didn't know whatever yeah yeah so again like he's a guy that when i fought him
01:09:04.960
and again i had a lackluster performance against romero because he didn't want to engage so people
01:09:09.840
were like oh fuck him and it was i have the most exciting title fight in history and the most boring
01:09:14.960
title fight in history i do it all but um after that fight people were talking shit like oh this
01:09:21.520
and that right right right he's a boring fighter and it's weird i see it now they just forget they
01:09:27.360
forget and i'm like bro i gave you so much classics so quick people forget man yeah but then um for me
01:09:32.720
when that fight came about i didn't like him and he reminded me of every jock i had oh yeah he was
01:09:39.760
very you know good looking oh like just very muscular conditioner yeah oh bro the guy and he
01:09:46.400
was talking so much everyone and then the streets was like he went three rounds of romero he went
01:09:51.680
three rounds i'm like yeah i went five rounds of romero but he didn't do shit fuck you i can't watch
01:09:56.160
this watch this so when i fought him i remember i just i was so i was dialed in bro i was down watching
01:10:02.800
that we went to after the show we went to a bar i think we're in indiana somewhere we're in the apex
01:10:07.680
at the time oh not the apex um the fight island that was fight island and yeah i um i took him out
01:10:13.120
i took him for for a ride i took it he couldn't catch you no he didn't touch me once apart from in
01:10:18.320
the legs i did seeing that yeah and he's approved 100 well it's also in some cultures it's more
01:10:25.120
it's dominance it's more appropriate too yeah but i mean like for me i just felt it was the most
01:10:30.000
dominating thing i could do to him because he was in that position so yeah in brazil being engaged
01:10:34.160
just like two guys dancing yeah or just dancing high five yeah oh so they'll have some high fives
01:10:39.200
that'll last a long time and look at the technique look at the squat on the man yeah oh that's crazy
01:10:44.080
man you raw dog them it was good it was a good time i enjoyed it no regrets what did you think of
01:10:52.560
his uh of his fight with whitaker it's a good fight i liked it i liked his jab in that fight yeah i was
01:10:56.960
like okay he came back but man that earned the first round when you when you rock them with the wheel kick
01:11:01.120
yeah who did not expect that and then again at the end of the round so he got saved by the bell
01:11:07.440
came back and whitaker just just out guts them he just out guts them i thought it was close yeah i
01:11:12.400
thought maybe maybe costa might have won i felt he might have won but then when they gave it to
01:11:16.160
whitaker i was like huh okay well it wasn't a robbery but i thought costa probably had it um
01:11:22.480
yeah he was good he looked good in that fight he's he wasn't the same after this everyone keeps
01:11:27.440
telling me that you ruined that man really you think that yeah i don't think after that fight
01:11:33.280
he wasn't the same he was on a run he had this i'll tell you this you look at the fight you look
01:11:38.560
at the first round the way he looked at me and they look at the second round when he's like
01:11:44.560
like you see his face the demeanor changed i love those moments you take their soul away you
01:11:49.440
just know like this guy knows he doesn't want to be locked in here with me and it's like during a
01:11:53.360
video game but their controller's gone yeah bad dream for him bad dream for him so it's like
01:12:00.160
yeah i like that moment um but yeah i like the guy he's funny he's i think he's an entertainer he's
01:12:05.200
good on twitter uh he's got a secret juice secret juice and all that it's fun there's there's so many
01:12:12.480
uh that's one thing i was wondering do you miss sometimes just in the past year being off or so like
01:12:17.680
do you miss some of the entertainment like like because there's been a lot of great like the trash
01:12:22.080
talk and everything's that kind of like you know like like strickland's so ridiculous like him and
01:12:26.240
mgk are arguing like that shit is why it's hilarious though like do you laugh at some of it like like
01:12:32.480
it's just i didn't really i didn't really pay attention to i was like oh strickland i mean
01:12:35.680
strickland you put him in public it's uh it's a different story yeah yeah he's always got something
01:12:41.680
to say man yeah um is that a fight that you feel like you want to go like 100 yeah 100 come on man
01:12:48.480
i don't know i don't know what like if guys get like um that's it i care about going and revisiting
01:12:54.880
that not because of the fight but just because you care or not care so for me when pereira beat me
01:12:59.440
he beat me the first time i went to brazil he beat me knocked me out and i didn't chase it i was like
01:13:05.520
you know what i'm done with kickboxing and then he said he got motivated because he saw me you know
01:13:12.160
talking about him and then decided i'm gonna go mma and chase this guy and he did and then got to the
01:13:16.880
ufc they fast tracked him he got to me and fast track him yeah i mean it is what it is i don't
01:13:23.680
blame them it's it was look at what we have now we have classics so um he beat me in almost similar
01:13:30.240
fashion in the way i was beating his ass and then in the last round he just had that spirit and just
01:13:35.520
something behind him some kind of shinigami he just came and just beat me and i was just like
01:13:40.000
fuck again how is this guy and then i let it go and then i just knew this is the last one like
01:13:46.640
after this i'm done with this guy but i have to get him now i have to get him now and in that moment
01:13:51.280
when i when i got it done i got it done it took me six years and then i went after his kids too
01:13:56.960
i was like yeah where you at because i'm a petty motherfucker sometimes you want to end you know
01:14:00.880
just let the lineage know what's up of course not like because you don't want their kid fighting
01:14:04.720
your kid at school or something yeah no i won't even go to the same school but like the fact is i had
01:14:08.880
to teach his kids a lesson because of what they did prior and this took me what six years to
01:14:13.920
accomplish with strickland it wouldn't take me that long uh let me just get through ddp first
01:14:19.520
let me handle i i look i look to the next fight never i look ahead like a little peak at the future
01:14:25.680
but i don't try and focus on it and i just know the strickland fight will come back around and i'm
01:14:30.560
in i'm in a good place now health-wise mentally and i know exactly what happened in that fight that
01:14:37.040
just wasn't for me he's a great fighter put he's also a good champion what a reign i mean he did what he did
01:14:43.360
uh strickland yeah but i mean like he did what he did yeah everybody can beat me up yeah no but
01:14:50.240
i mean like he did what he did look even the way he beat me it was spectacular it was his moment
01:14:54.240
it was his moment like yeah like sometimes dave chapelle said something in this dreamer special he said
01:15:00.960
oh how did he put it hold up i got i have it saved here i have to find it no no i have it saved
01:15:06.000
here give me two seconds i'll play right now in five four three two one and that's the trick
01:15:17.440
to life you have to be wise enough to know when you were living in your dream and you have to be
01:15:25.280
humble enough to accept when you're in someone else's
01:15:31.280
they said that in this new special um i think dreamer and i felt that and i was like yeah because
01:15:38.080
look life is a game i would use this moniker of player one and even people sometimes think oh he's so
01:15:47.840
narcissistic he thinks he's player one i'm like don't you are you a bot like everyone can grab
01:15:54.800
the controller and play the game but most people don't most i'm sure you see it most people just go
01:15:59.120
through life just on the programming they just go with the flow whatever it's good to go with the
01:16:05.120
flow but whose flow are you going with oh yeah so for me i had to like pause and question everything
01:16:10.240
and i realized that was his night that was his night he was just he just fought the perfect fight
01:16:17.200
no matter what i made no excuses i gave it to him but again like i say i'm a patient
01:16:22.240
motherfucker i take my time i reassess and yeah i go for what what i want you know yeah but you still
01:16:31.600
feel a real fire for it oh yeah of course yeah i mean even the way look i had bars ready but i just
01:16:38.080
the way he reacted when ddp mentioned some of his stuff his trauma i was like oh yeah that let me
01:16:45.040
that let me know something again even look that moment you guys had was beautiful i'll say that
01:16:50.480
that was beautiful because i'd never seen him like that like after the fight he's crying because he's so
01:16:56.080
like what the fuck i just became i i clocked it and i was like as a joke i was like hey you're crying
01:17:01.440
like a bitch he kind of laughed i was like come here and whatever but then when he was talking with
01:17:06.720
you and then you guys kind of got really vulnerable i was like man no kitchen i have to you know go
01:17:11.040
through that yeah it's heartbreaking yeah it was heartbreaking to even see that but again look i'm
01:17:16.080
a human being and i can connect with people on a human level but it doesn't mean i'm not gonna get
01:17:20.800
you i'm not gonna look i even said this about silver look just because i'm a fan doesn't mean you
01:17:25.680
can't catch these hands you know silver was my michael jordan of this fucking game and i was just like
01:17:31.920
i was never i thought i would never fight him and then the opportunity presented itself and i was just
01:17:38.080
i had this trip planned for amsterdam france all this kind of stuff and then the opportunity came
01:17:44.000
and i was just thinking like i gotta do it i have to do it and i did it and it was a beautiful fight
01:17:51.120
beautiful way to like i wish he stopped after that i wish maybe he moves to boxing after that
01:17:56.720
because he even he said to me in the case like i passed the baton to you and none of the and just
01:18:01.760
kind of like bless me all these words and i'm there like like just crying you know for me because
01:18:08.880
that was never meant to happen oh it was never meant to happen but it happened and i even have it
01:18:14.480
framed in my house we're fighting on this chess piece like a chess board because that's what the fight
01:18:20.080
was and i hit him with that rock lee stance from naruto and he's standing there like gara it just looks
01:18:25.520
so cool like that fight was electric it was beautiful just a master just a masterful way to
01:18:31.520
play the game from two taijutsu masters if you will yeah there's a composer element to you that i think is
01:18:37.600
really interesting because it's like and that's why i wonder about like yeah does he still love like
01:18:42.400
what does he want to do with fighting just because there's just a lot of options in life yeah and
01:18:46.880
sometimes creativity can you know flow and just you know you can decide like yeah i've you know what
01:18:52.320
else do i want to you know be uh an actor do i want to you know i'll act i've already like turned
01:18:58.720
down a few roles a few high profile roles because i wanted to make sure i focus on fighting that's the
01:19:05.280
one thing i wanted to focus on was fighting i don't ever want to get sidetracked and yeah that's too much
01:19:10.640
yeah because i know what i can focus on and then if i do then things can get squirrely so i'd rather not
01:19:17.120
but um yeah dude if you were like a fighter pilot or something yeah so sick or if you were like in
01:19:22.560
a war like a war movie yeah yeah but i wouldn't say no i wouldn't say i'll say it off i'll say it
01:19:29.120
after this okay like but yeah um i'm definitely gonna have you know i already got ties in hollywood
01:19:35.120
like people want to work with me which is cool and i do my own stunts i mean save money
01:19:40.320
yeah yeah you know what i'm saying i like what you're thinking yeah save money i do my own stunts
01:19:44.480
you don't have to get a stunt double um but also i'll have my own production company and i will
01:19:49.840
like maybe make some some characters like some anime or just have weird ideas bro like sometimes
01:19:56.640
i'm i don't know how to write a screenplay but i'll get someone who can i can just vomit words at
01:20:01.200
them and they can just put it in a way that's digestible for tv or netflix or you know
01:20:08.480
a crunchy roll or whatever yeah stylebender studios i mean stylebender is such a great
01:20:13.200
it's like the greatest moniker honestly in a lot of ways because there's just so many
01:20:17.920
you don't even know what it is but you know what it is yeah i got it from even they just dropped the
01:20:22.240
live action uh the avatar series the last airbender just dropped yesterday oh yeah i saw new zealand
01:20:27.280
i'm gonna watch it tonight but um for me i when i was watching that i i i love that show i grew up on
01:20:34.560
that show so for me i got the name because i felt in this realm i want to master all the elements of
01:20:42.800
martial arts and realize my destiny as the avatar and i felt like i was the one so i have and i'm
01:20:51.040
still doing it and now you know the middleweight division needs me again so there's this i'm it's
01:20:57.360
all about the story you're telling yourself signal yeah exactly like what story are you telling
01:21:02.160
yourself this is the life we live and most people don't they just kind of go with the flow you're
01:21:07.040
so true and because that shapes your perspective and then your persp that's the huge ingredient that
01:21:12.320
i think so many people that um have that i didn't realize for years yeah is that perspective because
01:21:18.960
even me now six months without driving i'm like oh well i'm saving gas for six months
01:21:24.400
and then while i'm not driving i'm busy doing other shit making shit happen so i just
01:21:29.840
flip it around in my head so that way it's more tolerable was it um when you got when you got to
01:21:35.120
walk out with like fury what was that fight you guys want oh and gandu yeah oh bro what was that
01:21:39.840
like bro it was like three kings back together that was beautiful that was a moment i'll tell you one
01:21:45.040
thing i'm very laid back like contrary to popular belief i'm very laid back but for me i wish i i
01:21:55.360
dressed a little nicer for that walkout it still looked good we still we still had our moment but
01:22:00.080
like i kind of wore it's a chic like low-key like just it was too low-key for the moment the look i will
01:22:07.520
there's there's other outfits i've worn that i'm like i'm gonna still wear my slides
01:22:10.800
and like have that moment like it was beautiful like you know three kings but regardless we just
01:22:16.160
looked epic walking together and francis just the the adonis that he is just his story itself is is
01:22:22.880
bananas like if you know his history you've listened to it on jre and whatnot the way he's come up now
01:22:29.440
and now he's doing this when people said he wouldn't do this yeah making crazy money crazy money
01:22:36.480
so i'm happy for him even mike tyson right there it was a moment bro it was a moment for just for
01:22:42.000
history i love that these are moments for life i would never forget these moments man yeah it's crazy
01:22:48.240
i mean it just it's almost like you could never even understand what's going on you know yeah that's
01:22:54.400
so cool yeah see kamaru was dressed with that i kind of had a similar outfit that i was in mind but
01:22:59.200
then i was like nah it's his moment francis so i kind of think it was fair you pay homage to him
01:23:03.760
you're like i'm gonna dress down this is about looking at him yeah but then i still think like
01:23:07.680
for moments like that next time israel don't be so again another moment where i was like i shied
01:23:13.120
away from shining but again regardless if i was dressed with a headdress or whatever he would
01:23:18.960
have shined in that moment because it's his moment so i just wanted to make it about him
01:23:22.560
that's why when when you see stuff like this like fights like this do you get tempted when you see
01:23:26.720
these guys fighting like jake paul's mom and stuff like that like fighting like um kid laroi or whatever
01:23:33.200
like there's always this shit online all right you mean like the the boxers that everyone wants
01:23:37.760
to box down yeah there's always like a care bear fighting like like sneaker or something you know
01:23:42.800
like every week there's somebody's like fighting um a drawing of somebody's grandparents it's good
01:23:48.160
for the sport i think it's good for boxing because look look what it's done for but also shout out to
01:23:52.640
his ex and i see turkey the guy that organized all this he has lit a fire in the combat sports world
01:23:59.360
in a sense that bro they've been sitting on how much money of oil money like just crazy amounts
01:24:06.880
they're just disposable income like cost and even the ad there was an ad for um in uh and also
01:24:14.000
fury and yusik and they had all these mainstream hollywood actors and actresses in it and i'm like
01:24:20.560
because they just have the money huh just here but they've that's good for the game because now they've
01:24:25.920
forced vegas you know everywhere else to like raise the bar so it's good competition is good yeah this
01:24:32.400
ad insane look at the production and this is an ad for uh a boxing fight wow yeah and they pulled out
01:24:40.320
but you know the fight will still happen later in the year i think they've rescheduled but yeah like
01:24:44.640
this is that clint eastwood yeah that's what i'm saying jesus for an advert and he's not cheap no
01:24:52.880
no not for that not for acting but um oh wow so you're saying that they have all this money like
01:24:59.200
at net like it's just like you're doing with live golf where they're like yeah so that they bought
01:25:03.120
that as well so for me i've been invited now three times to saudi arabia and each time i went back
01:25:08.640
it just felt like it was more they were doing more with the net with the next seven years eight years
01:25:14.640
it's gonna be bigger than dubai i think or like the uae or match them for like tourism because now they
01:25:21.280
just even lifted um the alcohol ban they had yeah they had i think it was end of this in the last
01:25:26.640
year or this year they lifted the alcohol you can drink there now now i haven't been back since you
01:25:30.160
can but apparently you can that's gonna change everything it will it'll invite more people through
01:25:35.200
and then there's more buildings going up every time i go over there so yeah are you impressed
01:25:39.760
by it over there then it sounds like yeah i am very impressed also one thing i'm the culture i like
01:25:44.800
the culture over there they've preserved their culture still even as the the landscape moves
01:25:51.200
into the 21st century a little bit more and vice the world into the even in dubai and and abu dhabi
01:25:57.360
they still you see the cultures heavily present there and i respect that i love seeing that when you go to
01:26:01.680
a place so it's not too i guess uh westernized you know like i agree mcdonald's or whatever all that
01:26:09.040
kind of stuff you still see essences of their culture everywhere which is good and i feel like over
01:26:13.760
there they've they've done that heavily in 17 saudi arabia first alcohol sales in 72 years dividing
01:26:20.080
opinion yeah zoom in on it a little bit the news that saudi arabia will allow go down a little the
01:26:27.120
news that saudi arabia will allow its first alcohol shop has citizens and foreigners alike mulling one
01:26:32.640
question is this a minor policy tweak or a major upheaval sources familiar with the preparations for the
01:26:38.640
store it is closed details of the plan on wednesday located in the capital's diplomatic quarter
01:26:43.440
the store it looks like one store will be accessible only to non-muslim diplomats yeah
01:26:47.920
what's a diplomat that's that's that's i don't know i'm not really political enough to know what
01:26:52.080
that is but um all it takes is one that's a trojan horse i mean kind of like yeah medical marijuana
01:26:58.240
that was the gateway now now it's going to be a bunch of everywhere just doing fireball on camels
01:27:04.000
i love fireballs what's your drink of choice when you drink when i drank i liked beer i think and i
01:27:14.240
like sometimes like a dang like a pina colada or sometimes like a captain morgan and coke like
01:27:21.200
so i'm a sweet tooth guy but my standard is bourbon and coke but i like a sweet cocktail i love a sweet
01:27:27.840
cocktail it's just i look beer my dad used to distribute guinness all over west africa when i
01:27:32.960
was a kid what do you mean he would distribute like he was part of a group that would so he
01:27:36.560
trucks trucks all over west africa yeah cargos and we had so much in the house and one time i was like
01:27:43.200
maybe six or seven i was like can i taste that yeah sure i mean i had a taste and i did not touch
01:27:49.120
alcohol from that point till one time i think i was 18 maybe a little bit heartbroken and then hanging
01:27:56.320
out with my boys and you know i just have and i have i found woodstock bourbon and coke and then
01:28:01.760
when i first got drunk it was at this park with my boys i realized why like this is why that girl
01:28:07.920
outside the party's crying this is why that guy wants to fight everyone this is why that guy wants
01:28:12.160
to because it opened my eyes to understand what being drunk was like but um yeah it's so interesting
01:28:19.120
man because one thing it's interesting i think about you man and this is a judgment but yeah you are
01:28:23.200
you are yourself but you also are able to watch yourself be yourself and some people it's a it's
01:28:30.160
something that we all need more of self-awareness it's we have to find ways to get it because i think
01:28:35.200
it used to be the crux of a human being like you had a relationship with yourself that was evolving
01:28:42.800
constantly like um you know a lot of the greats like uh marcus aurelius and stuff not only would they
01:28:48.720
learn something but then they would sit there with what they learned and develop a relationship with
01:28:53.280
it yeah you know like what have i learned here what does this mean to me what am i getting from
01:28:57.200
this what is this serving me do i need to let go of this right i'm constantly questioning even
01:29:02.160
things that i've been told uh that's interesting bro no not not i think just living life and
01:29:09.920
okay example when i was young sunday school i remember you know you learned about god made the world
01:29:15.680
in seven days and this and that right yeah yeah and then for me i remember asking the question
01:29:21.920
to my sunday school teacher was like well if god made the world who made god
01:29:26.720
and then no answer just kind of like what and then i asked my parents asked the housemaids my aunties
01:29:33.120
and then eventually one of my aunties was like if you keep asking that question you'll go mad
01:29:37.360
and then i kind of thought like i don't think they understand i don't think these
01:29:40.880
these motherfuckers understand what's really going on so it made me question you know what
01:29:46.000
they tell me and over time through life i've had moments when i've done stuff and i'm just like
01:29:51.200
why did i do that why did i feel that way and then again i call it like you identified a monster that
01:29:56.720
you can kill it so once i identify the feeling of you know maybe envy or anger or sadness i'm like
01:30:03.520
why am i feeling this way and i can backwards engineer it or something so go go into that a little
01:30:09.040
bit because i think that's important because i think a lot of people deal with that so say if
01:30:12.720
somebody's kind of going through that like what like what kind of process are you kind of talking
01:30:16.240
about okay so example if um say okay it's it takes a skill to be happy for someone and i've noticed
01:30:24.800
this because when i was younger and growing up in nz the culture kind of caught me a little bit where
01:30:29.840
if someone's doing well you know it might it might look like ah because i noticed myself one of my
01:30:37.200
friends old friend i noticed myself like distancing myself away from him because he was doing so well
01:30:43.200
yeah and then i realized i was like wait hang on so i had to kind of because i was like this is my boy
01:30:48.320
about that i was like why am i why am i feeling this way why am i feeling like i'm jealous of him
01:30:55.040
when he's not doing anything to me and i've seen people do it to me as well the bigger i got it kept on
01:31:00.000
getting people will start oh it must be nice type type you know yeah like oh and then you see them start to
01:31:05.440
treat me differently so for me i start i noticed myself starting to treat him differently and
01:31:09.280
distance myself from him so i pulled the brakes sat with it for a few weeks probably and just kind of
01:31:15.760
identify like why i should be happy for him and it takes a skill to learn that and then becomes your
01:31:20.800
second nature over time once you become like reps reps reps reps because to learn to be a hater was
01:31:27.120
just natural in the environment i was in so i had to learn nah that's not the way i want to be so you
01:31:32.400
can unlearn behaviors as well even as i get older things things even women i have to unlearn
01:31:38.480
certain behaviors and be like okay yeah you have to know like this is maybe approaching it being
01:31:43.600
more honest or being more communicative and all that kind of stuff you have to unlearn
01:31:47.680
unlearn and constantly learn new ways of being yeah um when you uh when you look at the ufc today like
01:31:56.880
who really kind of um excites you like are there guys you're like oh this is fun i like this storyline
01:32:02.560
like um are you able to get a different look at it being away from it a little bit like do you have
01:32:07.600
yeah thing is before the ufc i watched everything i would watch all the embeddeds all the countdowns
01:32:14.800
all the shows they have on the ufc websites i would watch everything but then even when i was in
01:32:21.360
and i was watching everything but then over time i'm starting to understand sometimes the way
01:32:28.800
maybe nate and nick diaz feel because you've you've you've done so much for this game you've put so
01:32:34.320
much in this game and then you still feel sometimes disrespected and then you're just like man fuck this
01:32:40.320
shit like fuck this game but i've because i don't remember the last time i watched the countdown i don't
01:32:45.840
remember the last time i watched i don't even watch the embedded anymore i've kind of like
01:32:50.160
it's played out to me in a way but i was watching it when i was coming up and that that helped me a
01:32:54.880
lot because when i got to the ufc it was uh i just knew what to expect i was like oh yeah i've seen
01:33:00.080
this before oh i see yeah because at that point you're also surveying this like the stage so you
01:33:05.280
know like i know where the camera's here i know where to look up right there this is why i had these
01:33:09.120
moments man these people think it's all it's all like not a chance nah i have these moments because
01:33:13.520
again the shower i operate there and i just know like example the speech i get after i knocked out alex
01:33:19.040
i remember being in the shower visualizing winning in miami and just like because i i put myself
01:33:27.040
i immersed myself because of my imagination in that moment and i remember feeling so happy
01:33:32.080
and in that moment i was just like i just fuck i just want everyone to feel how happy i am and
01:33:36.640
that's all i wanted to say yeah and then the rest came vessel i was just like blah blah blah and i just
01:33:43.280
said what i said and people with it and it became this moment and i'm glad i'm glad i became that
01:33:49.600
moment because people still this to this day that's like man you made me feel so happy i remember that
01:33:55.440
speech and this and that and when i speak from the heart i feel it hits people because i'm trying to i'm
01:34:02.080
trying to connect we're all human beings no matter what race color like you just when you speak from the
01:34:06.240
heart i can touch people man i don't know if it's my mom says it's a gift but my mom's supposed to say
01:34:11.920
that but yeah no she's supposed to say that but no you're right it's tough to even trust our own
01:34:17.280
mom yeah but like i i think from doing it over time now with reps even when my my boys is uh i was one
01:34:25.360
i was a groomsman at this wedding i didn't write shit for the speech i just spoke from the heart and i was
01:34:30.240
like man i killed that shit yeah and yeah it's you know it's a skill in a way but at the same time
01:34:36.880
might be a gift but who knows we're all gifted we just have to tap into it and you get more practice
01:34:40.480
with it you've gotten practice over the years after fights after fights in china people speak english
01:34:46.640
i just said whatever i wanted you got 40 reps over there nobody even watched i'm gonna go back man
01:34:51.600
that's the thing because people actually they like they make a joke of it not my time in china but
01:34:55.920
i'm grateful for those times man like china man adventures really like unicycles and stuff
01:35:03.280
like what are you talking about talking like adventures fuck i don't this is a worldwide
01:35:09.120
internet thing but uh adventures like say just after fight okay so me and me and my one of my teammates
01:35:16.080
blood diamond we kind of had each other's back in china he's a zimbabwean guy and so we'd be living
01:35:23.600
we at one point we were in henan province jangzhou and we were just outside the city at this camp that
01:35:31.440
was our base after a fight we'll come back to the camp you know wherever we are and i traveled so many
01:35:37.040
places in china some places i can't even pronounce i don't even know i forgot i'd go straight from the
01:35:41.120
hotel fight fight hotel airport but then we'll get back to our base and then we'll take a weekend away
01:35:47.520
just to go to the city which is like 40 30 minute drive boom get a hotel go out there and they
01:35:52.640
they they like foreigners in their clubs because it looks like the club is more popping so we just
01:35:57.440
get given free boost black label johnny walker you know sit down and have have a time oh some things
01:36:05.120
i could never say on the camera but we had some good fun in china oh the hotels over there the the the
01:36:13.040
the the whoo they they massages all that it was it was a good time but i oh again i i fought
01:36:21.360
i was there for maybe 10 months i fought about 24 25 times one of those months i fought every
01:36:28.400
weekend because i have four fights that month and i had two knockouts but i was fighting constantly
01:36:32.640
and it just elevated me because it's reps i'm fighting you know i'm training with these guys
01:36:37.280
and they spar hard over there the chinese you ever want to eat brah they spar hard and sometimes well
01:36:42.880
back then they were still in the mindset like to train your chin you have to
01:36:46.480
uh so it did stand in yeah which is not really the smartest well the russians do what's that clip
01:36:54.160
with we have that clip with the russian have you seen this kind of stuff yeah the russians like uh
01:36:59.120
sambo yeah it's like instead of fiber they use this thing oh no he's gonna hurt himself no oh what the
01:37:12.080
what the fuck is that oh is that punishment that's got to be punishment that's torture
01:37:16.640
now this is training bro this is what it makes him stronger you're trying to separate the man from
01:37:22.800
himself jesus it kind of looks fun but at the same time he doesn't have a shadow anymore
01:37:28.000
i'm just gonna rip the solar pot wait what is that training for i need to know the russian
01:37:33.760
fitness training method pravilo is still used in many boxing gyms today to increase strength and
01:37:38.640
punching power can you look it up too i'm okay i'm trying to even see what the physics is how would
01:37:43.120
you so do you have to restrain yourself i don't understand well i guess if you let yourself sag
01:37:49.840
if you have to pull on all the ropes and like hold your core yeah like samson just ah
01:37:54.560
maybe that's something yeah i have to ask my strength coach because
01:37:58.960
that's why i have someone who's smarter than me i wouldn't ask anybody about that but
01:38:02.720
i don't think that looks like some torture he might be like that's a good idea let's
01:38:05.600
let's add that to your regimen i don't want to see uh gene setting that up for you is that your coach
01:38:10.800
gene no eugene yeah he's uh he's my and he goes by eugene yeah eugene yeah sorry no he's good i just
01:38:16.400
call him yeah a lot of names we call each other a lot of names well you guys have had a long
01:38:21.440
relationship yeah your little machine builds strength mobility the old-fashioned way stretching
01:38:26.160
out yeah let me see a little bit more that i mean i'm intrigued i'm straight because you could just
01:38:31.760
like there's a torture method back in the medieval times where you can like tie a guy to this horse and
01:38:36.960
this upper body to this horse and then they just like hit the horse and then they separate so maybe
01:38:42.400
that could be an old-school version but that was a way to kill people torture them yeah it works to
01:38:47.680
stretch and strengthen the internal framework of joints tendons and ligaments as well as improve
01:38:53.280
mental clarity and ability to work under stress okay by stretching all the connective tissues and
01:38:58.000
removing not like the fascia okay pravelo practice increases blood flow to the entire body i bet it's
01:39:05.280
definitely yeah i mean if it's you know the russians are pretty good at sport um so yeah and what do you
01:39:11.280
do it looks like your wife's mad at you i thought i was about to get 10 lashes or something
01:39:15.600
next minute damn it kind of looks fun that's heady i'm crazy so i like crazy
01:39:22.320
shit so while i wasn't fighting i um i took up other things like okay september i feel like when
01:39:29.440
you're not fighting i feel like you're in zelda breath of the wild i that's what it's like i think
01:39:33.920
honestly like i'm not playing the game literally yeah i know but you're in the in the like i can do
01:39:40.240
anything like i'm i've got money i've got a passport i can go anywhere but um for me i took up things
01:39:48.480
like golf golf's my new favorite pastime in a way because i like it because it's it's soft it's it's a
01:39:55.840
bit more um slow paced people say oh what about tennis or something i'm like something soft something
01:40:02.880
that's true because my life is chaos when i'm in the gym murderers trying to kill me all the time
01:40:07.280
working out cardio strength so then when i'm on the golf course i mean i'm not trying to even flex
01:40:13.280
but i got pretty good i want to see it i can't believe it i got i got pretty good in about
01:40:17.760
how many months let me say i got pretty good i'll send you guys this clip as well i got pretty good
01:40:29.040
oh my it's not bad look at the hips on them it's clean bro yeah wow we're even like the last one this is
01:40:36.160
my i was my final one i was like you know what there's a lot of great golfers from your country
01:40:41.280
yeah from nigeria oh no oh new zealand oh yeah see i sent that shit to the moon i sent that
01:40:47.680
shit to the moon i was like yeah and look again emotes this is how i live my life
01:40:53.280
i said yeah because when you're a kid you be doing shit like this and then you get to
01:40:59.440
i'm a power ranger when i was a kid i was a ninja turtle i was action man like you can be
01:41:04.720
anyone you want i was a boss boy for halloween i was like shit i was like yeah a bus boy i was
01:41:09.840
like hopeful like yeah like we had a lot of like low hopes in our area i didn't really have the
01:41:16.880
costume but in my mind i was i was legit a power ranger i was always a black ranger either him or
01:41:21.760
the red ranger that's fair but yeah um um what was i saying before before i got on this tender of
01:41:27.440
golf yeah so i like golf just because it's something different and who do you play with
01:41:30.880
golf yeah you just go by yourself oh my homies all go to the driving range but like last time
01:41:36.800
was a slava joe hopkins and my boy matt and this other guy jackson i believe yeah some local guys
01:41:42.720
yeah my friends oh nice uh slava and joe are fighters as well um joe still fights slava is
01:41:48.160
just a big time businessman now but he just likes to you know hit the hit the the golf sticks once in
01:41:53.920
a while it's fun yeah you golf oh yeah i like to golf i'm not good at it but i do like to do it
01:41:58.960
yeah i i would say i'm coachable i'm very very coachable because i'm the guy like the details
01:42:05.120
because at first i used to do this i was this guy so i would like yeah and then i'd strike it down
01:42:12.800
and then it wasn't until um this this guy was named daryl i believe out south auckland at
01:42:19.360
the airport there's a golf a driving range over there he told me like i've watched your videos
01:42:23.200
mate um see the way you when you set up your kicks you know and he explained to me and showed me
01:42:28.400
my hip faint and said like that's the way and then from then i got to this where it's like
01:42:36.000
and from there ah i can get that in there so once he once he told me that sorry once he told me that
01:42:42.880
then i was like and that's that's the day i started sending and i was like oh i'm getting this now
01:42:49.040
but now it's about learning what face of the club i want to hit with so i can determine which way the
01:42:56.720
ball goes if i wanted to go a bit to the right or to the left because right now it goes to the
01:43:01.600
right at least 60 65 percent of the time oh yeah that's what i'm doing okay yeah i'm constantly
01:43:08.400
and i'm okay maybe change the club face so the details of it intrigues me and again it's slow pace
01:43:14.000
and it just gets in my brain so i sunk my teeth into that last year i went skydiving
01:43:19.600
first time first time did it in uh abu dhabi and that was dope it was sick no way who'd you go with
01:43:27.040
other fighters or no no uh devin haney was there actually he did a lot after me yeah the boxer and
01:43:31.680
then um yeah uh dude that's crazy it's fun like i can't believe you've never been no i wanted and you
01:43:38.240
only have to do it seven more times i can go by myself so there's a place like a bad idea no i'm
01:43:42.880
gonna do it you are so even okay bro this is me yeah i'm already even i've got a motorcycle riding
01:43:51.200
lesson on saturday because and again my mom's a nurse so she's already told me nope nope oh because
01:43:58.240
she's seen the worst yeah a lot of the organ donors are come from motorcyclists that's what i've heard
01:44:02.400
you could do pink slips with strickland if you guys know i'm good oh does he ride oh yeah he does
01:44:05.360
ride motorcycles now but somebody would get i'd rather fight him yeah i'd rather fight him yeah do what we do
01:44:10.880
the man dance i want to do a man dance but um yeah so for me skydiving motorcycle riding i might
01:44:17.200
get into that unless i get talked out of it but um yeah something that just gets me going that's why
01:44:23.120
for me i know when i'm done with this game at least every few months i need to do something that'll make
01:44:28.720
me feel like i'm about to die like something scary something that makes me go fuck like this is this is
01:44:35.440
happening this is legit this is real i could die in this so why is that so important you think to people
01:44:40.480
i think it's for me i'm an adrenaline junkie really yeah i'm an adrenaline junkie i've accepted that
01:44:46.800
about myself um and i think you just i i even alex spoke about it after his islam fight where he said
01:44:56.400
like you know just sitting around like you you know you do something you need to do something and
01:45:00.800
i felt that a lot of fighters felt that so for me that's why i say giving me free time with what i have
01:45:06.960
now can be a bad idea but i'm glad that i'm older now a little a lot wiser a lot wiser now i'm surprised
01:45:14.480
i don't have any babies out there well that i know of maybe in china but we'll wait another we'll see
01:45:21.520
we'll see but like no i've just i've lived a life theo i've made some dumb decisions you know i've been
01:45:27.040
places i've been places some scary stories some good times and some bad ones but no regrets because
01:45:35.280
it all led me to these moments and the lessons i've learned from them priceless and stories
01:45:42.960
um i'm sure you got some stories oh yeah some i gotta keep to myself
01:45:47.680
for me because i've never really expressed this maybe after i'm done fighting
01:45:50.800
i'll i'll make like another doco or docuseries and then i'll go deeper because or a memoir even
01:45:57.040
a book yeah i mean get someone to write that co-write that with me because even while i was in the
01:46:01.840
ufc man i was just i went through my own ups and downs but i'm glad they weren't caught by the media
01:46:11.760
because then one thing is like sometimes if someone goes through something you want to go through it
01:46:17.040
alone without the world watching you because there's already like a magnifying glass on your
01:46:20.640
life you know everyone's watching you yeah waiting for you to fail or something like that so yeah
01:46:26.160
people take their own lives because they can't handle what the media does the media has no accountability
01:46:30.160
the media has no a lot of people living our lives they would have definitely on the lives themselves
01:46:36.480
unsubscribe from life because it's it's a lot and i've been there before where i'm just like
01:46:42.320
fuck this is too much and i just i find myself going my shell i'll just become a crab and i just
01:46:47.120
and then i just i wouldn't really want to you don't trust the world then i don't trust the world
01:46:54.080
nah i feel like i gotta protect myself so i become a turtle ninja turtle but then a little less ninja
01:46:59.440
a little more yeah more turtle yeah less ninja more inner ninja yeah oh bro man for me it's just about
01:47:04.960
learning learning how to come out of that and that's where you've seen in the in the doco uh talking
01:47:09.920
to jennet who's my she doesn't like to call herself a therapist she calls herself a possibility
01:47:13.680
manager oh she's impressive i was actually gonna ask you for her information which is crazy she's
01:47:17.520
here she's uh she might be i think she might be and she she retired and just travels the country now
01:47:24.160
in a caravan seeing her grandkids wow that's her life so she's already set herself up she's left that
01:47:30.320
life behind of the nine of five or whatnot so she just lives her life she asked the best questions it
01:47:36.000
felt like yeah that's what it is people think therapy is this thing where this motherfucker don't
01:47:40.640
know about me but they don't need to that's why you talk so and it's like dating in a sense you
01:47:46.240
kind of go to try different people 100 so many times people go see the first therapist and they
01:47:50.960
stay with them for years it's like are you changing are you evolving it's nobody's fault if you're not
01:47:55.920
but you got to put yourself into like some boiling water yeah because you want to see what the
01:48:01.120
fuck flavors are in you bro you got to figure it out if you get the wrong person they can see like a
01:48:06.320
therapist can sit there and be like oh this chick with blue hair cha-ching and then just keep him
01:48:11.840
for two years and just keep making money off them a great therapist or so i'm not asking you about
01:48:16.880
billy eilish all the time when you come in but like a great one is one that would um kind of like a
01:48:22.160
doctor a doctor shouldn't keep you sick constantly she's trying to help you like okay jenna last time i
01:48:26.800
saw her would have been over a year now i talked to her maybe about two months ago briefly through text when
01:48:34.240
things were getting rocky but thing is she's giving me so many tools that i can use
01:48:38.640
that when things get a little because i'm human and life yeah bro life be lifing so then i have
01:48:44.320
the tools i can use to help me yeah but then someone who just kind of keeps you in that suffering phase
01:48:50.960
and they can milk off you it's not someone you want to be with so shop around find the right person
01:48:55.440
that can kind of want the best for you and then you see am i getting something out of this
01:49:00.080
once you're not getting anything out of it pull back i'm sure there's something that's going to
01:49:03.840
happen life is always lifing something's going to happen that'll rock my world and then boom
01:49:09.120
jenna are you free can i talk to you boom yeah that's it but yeah at the moment i haven't seen
01:49:15.040
her because i've just been i've been awesome i've just been living my life and i've had my ups and
01:49:19.440
downs but again she's given me the tools to use that can help me bring myself back to balance and
01:49:25.360
that's what you want no bro i think it's just so important because you don't hear that part about
01:49:29.360
therapy you just hear like go see a therapist people are like this didn't work i'm not doing it
01:49:32.800
anymore and it's like there's somebody yeah there's somebody that works um you talked to
01:49:38.000
the documentary about and we'll get out of here in a minute man you talked to the documentary about
01:49:41.120
how long has it been see time flies when you're having fun wait what's that probably a couple hours
01:49:48.320
no way fuck off we barely even got man you wait till i retire we'll do this again we'll talk about some
01:49:54.880
shit one thing i like is your perspective on things you just oh the clips fucking there's i
01:50:05.120
think even the instagram page theo von clips that sends to our group chat a lot and i just crack up
01:50:12.000
like you just say the most out the gate shit i didn't even think of that yeah i don't know no it's
01:50:17.360
you it's your perspective and that's the beautiful thing of it you're able to express it so people can
01:50:22.880
follow the way your mind works yeah i mean it's cool to see thanks man yeah i like to
01:50:28.960
i don't know i was just always like i just wanted to find a way to be myself
01:50:34.560
whatever that even means it was just like man authentically be yourself yeah and what do you
01:50:39.280
who even am i and i just had no idea i didn't know what i built this kind of thing i didn't even know
01:50:44.000
what i was doing for so long yeah life's crazy bro it is especially the life we live yeah grateful
01:50:49.280
but it is crazy all of it's fucking unbelievable that we're just you know loud animals you know
01:50:55.680
like what if you were in the woods and you saw a bear like on his computer something you'd be like
01:50:59.840
this bear is yogi yeah this bear is mentally unwell you know but it's like um it's just weird being in
01:51:08.800
society but um what about ayahuasca did you ever try it you talked about it so that's on the list
01:51:14.640
it's definitely on i like the segway it's like well you gotta get it man yeah it's so fast have
01:51:20.720
you been yeah damn i just went a couple of weeks ago did you like uh did you go to the the jungle or
01:51:26.720
you found a guy that can actually do it properly because for me i've heard like because of the
01:51:31.120
popularity now there's a lot of shamans who aren't really shamans that they just oh come sit down in
01:51:37.520
a circle with us kumbaya and then give you the drug and or the plant medicine and then
01:51:41.760
you know you don't really get the you might get the trip but you don't really get the benefits from
01:51:46.320
like the the the shaman to guide you through that you know the purging and all that kind of stuff
01:51:52.000
but um it's it's been on my list but the reason i haven't done it yet and i told even mike tyson this
01:51:57.120
was because uh you probably haven't watched avatar but that's the best way i can explain it i've seen
01:52:03.520
it it's about the air blues or whatever blues yeah no no wrong one no avatar the the the last air
01:52:09.120
band of the series not the not like the tuskegee indians or whatever yeah something like that
01:52:15.760
no no no no that's you're talking you're thinking james cameron's avatar i'm thinking the the cartoon
01:52:21.440
okay i gotta watch the cartoon yeah oh there we go so yeah this avatar yeah the show the i i'm i'm a
01:52:28.160
big fan that's my one of my favorite animes but um it gets to a point where this guy doesn't know how
01:52:34.000
to firebend anymore because he became friends with this little kid ang so for me i felt like if i
01:52:40.960
go to the jungle and then i realize a lot of my shit oh yeah and i i actualize myself and i i i come
01:52:50.160
out of you know claire clarity and i'm just like will it affect my fighting that's the thing because i
01:52:55.680
fight i mean you've seen this in the doco i got chips in the dip you know i'm i'm very i'm very i have
01:53:03.040
something to prove you know i gotta prove something you know so for me it's not always
01:53:07.440
the other people it's to myself to my younger self because i used to get with a lot so it was
01:53:12.640
a weird like let i became strong so no one could with me so no one could you know i'm fortified in
01:53:19.440
myself and i'm like yeah you can't with me and i can that's why i'm able to be vulnerable now about
01:53:24.880
all this kind of stuff because i'm like you can't beat my ass it's all good right i'm safe enough now
01:53:29.440
yeah you know what that's interesting man i can relate to that it was like once i got like i always
01:53:34.000
just felt like people judged me so much because i was poor where i lived how i got to school uh what
01:53:40.480
we drove how we were you know and it just like i was just like i just want to you i want to be able
01:53:49.520
to be in control and like and that younger kid like now like that kid that was all bummed out like
01:53:54.880
now i can still notice when he's upset about something it comes up right but as an adult i can
01:53:59.520
be like hey uh it's cool right i got you right because if i sit here and cry if i sit here and
01:54:05.200
cry with him then i'm making him suffer two times exactly oh that's so good the way you put that the
01:54:10.480
kid inside the because sometimes someone will do something ah okay i'll say this i was in switzerland
01:54:18.000
right and then we're in this like thing um the setting classroom setting and i went to go get a
01:54:27.920
coffee came back and this lady had moved my stuff where they put me in the front of the class she
01:54:33.200
moved my stuff and i was like what are you is that oh i just she kind of like made anything she's
01:54:37.600
like i wanted some girl time with her and i was like oh that's cool i prefer the back of the class
01:54:41.600
anyway but then i sat there and for the first 15 10 minutes of the lecture i remember just feeling
01:54:47.120
rage i'm like who the fuck's this bitch if you want to sit with her get her to move
01:54:51.840
well you have to move my stuff and again it's this older white lady and it moved my stuff and
01:54:57.760
it just felt like it just took me back to that moment like just young izzy and i could feel myself
01:55:02.560
boiling so i just kind of calm him down like it's okay it's all right you're fine you're safe yeah and
01:55:08.240
then focus on what was doing but then that was just recent that was like two weeks ago and again
01:55:13.360
people can do something that triggers you triggered and then but you got to notice where that trigger
01:55:17.680
is because boom it's not attached i'll get so angry and then afterwards i'll be like oh my what was i
01:55:23.520
so that wasn't even whatever happened had nothing it's old i know it's old that we've just
01:55:32.080
and that's what ayahuasca that shit turns that old shit into a champagne bro yeah champagne bubbling
01:55:38.000
up yeah it comes yeah it is a party i've been on some trips like example uh before the miami
01:55:44.160
pereira fight i was micro dosing and i microdosed a little bit on psilocybin and i went on some
01:55:49.520
journeys within myself and i just sit on my couch watch the lights and just listen to this kind of like
01:55:54.720
lo-fi music and just question everything even deeper like who am i why am i this why do i feel
01:56:03.120
this way and then speak to my younger self but tapping into that is key because if you can make
01:56:08.720
him feel safe you're able to go through life easier because you'll be surprised how many moments that just
01:56:14.160
erase itself even like i said my people pleasing thing i know how to identify it when it comes up now
01:56:20.240
and i just did it i did it straight away even me like people i told you i don't live like the
01:56:27.600
commoners anymore because i realized i've lived that life because when i'd be at a bar like hey can i get
01:56:34.640
30 fireballs you know shots why and then people start to hang around me because they they know i'll be
01:56:42.560
like shouting drinks and whatnot and then i get to the point where i'm just like the next day i wake up
01:56:46.800
like why did i ever let those guys around me oh i didn't like those people but then boundaries
01:56:52.960
when i'm drunk i'm like a labrador i just think everyone's my friend yeah i'm the opposite of some
01:56:58.720
people drink bourbon and they think like oh it's they call it fighting beer i'm like hell no that's
01:57:02.960
the last thing i want to do i want to hug people i want to high five yeah i'm super nice super flirty
01:57:08.240
all that's being in your mouth yeah why not yeah it's like a golden retriever i am no but i i you
01:57:14.880
know like a golden retriever is just friendly with everyone so that's what i become when i'm when i'm
01:57:18.240
drunk but yeah for me i just realized you know what boundaries for me boundaries so that way i don't
01:57:25.040
have to i don't have to i don't have to be liked i don't need to prove to you that i'm down that i'm just
01:57:31.360
i'm just another dude because sometimes i feel like i have to do that to people but i'm like if you can't
01:57:35.920
handle who i am fuck bounce i don't have to prove to you that oh i'm i'm cool no it's you can i can
01:57:41.920
relate to you it's like nah i've lived your life you've never lived mine right right i don't have
01:57:46.400
to constantly reassure you reassure you yes yeah i don't have to constantly adjust every moment in my
01:57:52.400
life to reassure every single person that i come in contact with that's what i'm the same as them
01:57:57.840
yeah that's what that humble shit is when they talk about in new zealand when it's like
01:58:01.360
oh he's humble it's like oh some people i see them i'm like not that they're not humble i just
01:58:07.360
know that they're different off camera or they're different when other people are around yeah but
01:58:12.640
when they're in the public they want to you know be relatable and that's cool but i'm like nah bro
01:58:18.800
you're not they already they relate to you because of your story like they relate to you because of what
01:58:23.600
you've done in your field you know and they they fuck with it on some level so you don't have to
01:58:28.800
constantly bring yourself down to their level just stay where you are and connect with them
01:58:33.840
yeah that's one thing i learned as well i don't have to raise them because when people come yelling
01:58:37.200
at me now back in the day i'd have to like hey what's up man even if i'm gonna feel yeah you know
01:58:43.600
i get it but now let's watch wrestling or whatever on my phone or something yeah talk to my dead aunt
01:58:50.640
but um like for me it's like nah if i'm at a three and you come at me at a seven or ten i'm gonna keep it
01:58:56.640
a three yeah hey what's up man how you doing or even oh my i'm like chill bro what's up how you
01:59:01.760
doing man you good and i can bring them back to my my level of chun oh my god i'm such a big fat
01:59:07.040
i'm like that's cool come here give me a hug give me a hug and i love those moments man when people
01:59:11.200
are really genuine ah feels my heart i know huh because you want to be genuine too yeah and so it's
01:59:17.200
tough because people don't know where you're at sometimes because it's been a unique experience um
01:59:22.880
and yeah i think um it's a it's a learning curve it's a learning curve for both for both people
01:59:27.840
you know and yeah yeah life's such a learning curve man and i'm glad it is because it would get
01:59:31.600
fucking boring you know we keep learning um i'm still learning even even to this day like i said
01:59:36.960
two weeks ago that happened in switzerland and i said okay calm down young is he calm down it's okay
01:59:42.240
but then there's gonna be something else that comes through something else that comes through great
01:59:46.560
shit good bad beautiful ugly smiles and frowns whatever it is i'm going through it all and
01:59:53.680
right now i'm just taking my time that's all i can i'm taking my time with everything because if i i
01:59:58.320
don't know if you feel this way sometimes if i if i try and think because you know you got too many
02:00:03.360
things to deal with you know you like it can get overwhelming yeah so i'm like okay okay that's too
02:00:08.640
much and i just have to like right let me think what can i handle i can handle this right now and just
02:00:13.200
prioritize what i do yeah still learning though adulting yeah it's interesting i'm glad that god
02:00:20.080
or the gods that are out there let us adult that they let us um experience and evolve and learn and
02:00:28.720
it's pretty masterful what has been created out of life is pretty it's unbelievable it's like a
02:00:35.040
it's it's definitely i look one of the best zeldas probably yeah yeah zeldas i see i've only played
02:00:41.600
one of it i never clocked it not even close but like i know link that's the main character right
02:00:46.560
yeah did you play it a lot when you were a kid yeah i played it when i was a kid and then breath
02:00:50.080
of the wild came out and i played that on ds switch yeah so that's the one i have breath of the wild
02:00:54.720
and they just came out the new one oh yeah and it's cool too but breath of the wild is still cool so
02:00:59.440
you could stick with that one too yeah no i still got that one but right now i just started playing um
02:01:03.600
hell divers it's a great game hell divers holy it's like it's like it's like it's like halo hell
02:01:11.200
divers too it's like halo but and i never even played hello i played call of duty but it's just so
02:01:16.160
you you go liberate these planets or these worlds from these robots or these aliens but it's just the
02:01:21.360
way the gameplay um the the you play with your friends online it's yeah it's it's it's keeping me out of
02:01:28.960
trouble put it that way yeah oh it's important to know when to get in trouble and not yeah i mean i
02:01:34.400
like a little bit of trouble once in a while but at the same time i'd rather not because it always
02:01:38.720
finds me somehow it's it's a challenge it's a way that like you say god will just put this problem in
02:01:44.240
front of you so that way oh this is what i have to learn from this situation learn this if i don't
02:01:50.080
learn it guess what it comes back again it always does it'll come back again i'm like
02:01:54.480
fuck i thought i learned last time years a decade you'll be doing the same thing and trouble's always
02:01:59.040
in a it's always gift wrap too trouble it's not like ah trouble's not like fucking hey i'm trouble
02:02:03.840
trouble's like looks cool trouble with a nice ass yeah got that ruffa dump you're like oh here we go
02:02:10.720
trouble got but yeah got the yeah but um i've learned though that's the thing even younger guys
02:02:17.040
and i try and teach them just don't think with your dick just yeah you gotta you gotta use this
02:02:22.480
and yeah many many many mistakes have been made but many great great connections have been made as
02:02:29.040
well so yeah i thank god for it all but i still try to tell the young guys that watch me i just teach
02:02:35.200
them just don't do this yeah because there is some like you're like fuck i learned such the hard way
02:02:41.200
like i have got to tell somebody oh yeah some of this not even like you're preaching to people you're
02:02:44.960
just like for the love of god don't do this if i don't let somebody know then that's not even another
02:02:49.200
one that's like because i'm not married um but i don't even know if i want to i didn't really want
02:02:55.280
to but i don't know it'll happen maybe yeah one day you'll do it yeah it'll be the next adventure
02:02:59.520
anything i'm not married but i would like to be married but i have a tough time with doing commitment
02:03:04.320
yeah i'm i'm in my selfish era right now i feel like this these next few years uh i'm definitely i'm
02:03:12.480
definitely on the back end of my career so and i said i was i was the most active champion me and
02:03:17.840
volkanovski the most active champions crazy you know and bro most people get the belt right now
02:03:24.000
dricker's got the belt he kind of wants to chill they want to hold the belt for a little bit you
02:03:27.600
know look look nice you know i'm saying i was like who am i fighting next cool put that guy on who am i
02:03:32.640
fighting next because you risk it every fucking time every fucking time that's how i have so many defenses
02:03:38.480
because i'll be like who am i fighting next boom let's go you know but um for me everything i have
02:03:45.520
to do right now is going towards this bro i only just started having breakfast oh but context i
02:03:52.960
used to wake up and just go straight to the gym work out like two workouts back to back and then have
02:03:58.320
breakfast around one i'm 34 now you know almost 35 i know my body's different i have to put the right
02:04:04.720
fuels in my body i was living off ubi eats bro like just really yeah man i was training for fights
02:04:09.680
off uber eats yeah that was out because the skills i was so damn taquito yeah you know what i'm saying
02:04:15.280
like carl's jr uh indian food anything chinese you were defeating other other men on carl fuel like
02:04:24.640
carl's jr yeah anything burger king like mcdonald's only when i'm drunk because i didn't really like
02:04:30.480
the quality but um yeah it's gone yeah it's like paper it's yeah like oh man i had big mac one time
02:04:36.800
did not sit well with me and i was like yep so only when i'm drunk i'd have mcdonald's but yeah
02:04:41.360
if a brother can't have a burger and this is insane bro i've had so many i've had over 100 fights so i
02:04:47.120
didn't really think like the way i ate would affect my skills but again it does at a certain point because
02:04:53.840
when i was younger bro when i was 26 25 i'd be out you know i'd be getting home around say four
02:05:00.800
trying to get some pussy yeah and from there you know you sleep around 6 6 30 then you have to wake
02:05:07.520
up at 10 to go spot 11 get punched in the head hung over and uh it's like i could do it and just kick
02:05:15.760
ass but then the older you get you can't do it your body doesn't metabolize the same oh it's that's what
02:05:20.640
i'm saying now i'm like how did i do that yeah that was fucking wild how did i do that no so then
02:05:27.120
now it's about like i said putting the right fuel in my body like i said i've got my boy
02:05:30.880
matt who cooks for me now every day is a fucking cuisine oh yeah you know and i feel better as
02:05:35.200
well my body i can feel my skin y'all ever had that lamb we got a lamb we got more sheep than people
02:05:40.960
in new zealand really yeah i think five to one and well a lot of people are sheep but yeah there's
02:05:45.840
some people i've definitely sheep yeah furry hind in yeah yeah you can see them they got mullets in the back
02:05:52.080
as well same same um if the world ends what's your strategy what's your plan well right now i'm
02:05:59.040
building um also having a bunker in there allegedly maybe i shouldn't have said that fuck it's all right
02:06:06.640
but um yeah i just feel i mean you saw that world the movie the leave the world behind
02:06:12.480
yeah that's possible very possible what if the internet shuts down who knows yeah you wake up and
02:06:18.720
the phone doesn't work they've shut down all new zealand's connection to the world or you have
02:06:23.040
two calls left what do you do and where do you go oh i call my dad first person call my dad and um
02:06:29.680
i'd probably go yeah drive down to wanganui but thing is funny enough during lockdown people were
02:06:34.960
doing that when they they made the call or like you get the alert lockdown starts at midnight tonight
02:06:40.160
some fucking purge type shit people were getting out of auckland people were going down to their
02:06:45.360
batches if they could people were trying to see what their family and some people these guys got
02:06:49.760
caught going to hamilton which is about 45 minutes away from auckland um or maybe an hour away they
02:06:56.320
went over through like some farm roads just to get kfc in hamilton yeah just to get kfc in hamilton and
02:07:03.760
bring it back i think they were gang members as well i swear to god yeah yeah look this up love that
02:07:08.880
looking for kfc they were looking for kfc during lockdown yeah look at kiwi uh ms13 yeah i don't
02:07:17.040
i can't remember which gangs it was but not we don't have no sorenos out here oh really no no no mexican
02:07:22.320
gangs but um yeah you know they're prevalent kfc hamilton kfc uh lockdown lockdown i just want to
02:07:32.000
yeah right there yeah it'll be there men caught yeah there it is
02:07:40.400
look at that i love how the police confiscated it yeah man we got that that's their lunch right
02:07:44.800
there for the next three days it just at least there's no crime in this country yeah if this
02:07:49.520
is a bad deal yeah this is like oh we got you now it's a couple wings and a breast
02:07:55.680
new zealand police have made a bizarre arrest after a pair of alleged gang associates yeah we're
02:08:00.720
caught trying to enter auckland with a boot full of kfc chicken sell that shit on the low
02:08:09.200
are you not allowed to bring it in no you couldn't leave the auckland district so they left to go
02:08:14.240
get kfc and bring it back a couple storm hunters huh actual so everything was shut down the lockdown
02:08:18.960
was bizarre man did you guys uh where were you living i moved to tennessee during the lockdown and
02:08:23.440
it was my man it was you can dance that's why everyone moves to texas as well yeah texas changed
02:08:29.520
everything yeah that's why all the comed the comedy scene moved over there once joe and the
02:08:34.400
mothership and and there's a good energy there now of like possibility and new and like people are
02:08:40.400
excited there man i love watching kill tony because dude it's so good i used to watch it back in the
02:08:44.960
day i was just talking about actually i used to i used to watch it no i used to listen to it at my old
02:08:48.320
job i used to listen to it and roast battle um and then when i saw tony in texas one time he's like
02:08:55.360
yeah man we've yeah super gay no gay yeah he's like yeah man and he was telling me how it's going
02:09:05.600
up and i was like all right but i'll have a look so now i watched on youtube and i got my flatmate
02:09:09.920
hooked and now we've just been watching it like the whole hans kim rick diaz thing just took it to
02:09:14.240
a new level rick diaz has got some cojones on him man out of nowhere the guy just like stop
02:09:19.760
protecting him i want his spot and i just i saw it about two weeks ago where um the light cut out
02:09:25.600
and he came out and then was flipping him off yeah no he just he just uh rick diaz appeared after the
02:09:33.040
new year's show he just the next week the lights cut out and then came back on and then hans kim is
02:09:38.080
doing a set on stage and then rick diaz is right there just flipping him off it's like a soap opera
02:09:42.240
now it is yeah it's got storyline it's got a storyline to it now it's so amazing bro to go there and watch
02:09:48.560
i'm gonna go one day like definitely i know sean o'malley went and then he did the new year show
02:09:52.640
but then at some point i'll go to austin texas and i'll go to kill tony i just want to sit there
02:09:56.960
i don't even got to talk i'll just sit there answer questions and just watch the the chaos ensue
02:10:01.440
just live in front of me it's so crazy and they got the blind guy you're like yeah oh yeah what's
02:10:05.760
his name and he's playing uh is it bones no i don't know the blind guy that hates gays what's his name
02:10:11.280
oh i can't remember his name no oh my god fuck i know his name it's gonna come to me i hate they
02:10:15.440
got chris rogers the painter they're painting the whole time they got the crazy part is you get
02:10:20.400
one minute which is impossible it would almost be like hey be the best ufc fighter in one minute
02:10:25.120
you got to just throwing hope now but um but then they roast the guy oh that's the woman if if they
02:10:31.760
suck and if they're obnoxious then you can see tony's like oh i gotta go i gotta live one he can just
02:10:38.880
roast the motherfucker they do the other day that i was while i tuned in um on youtube it was streaming
02:10:44.560
live they had 81 000 people watching damn live that's worldwide bro unbelievable yeah for i mean
02:10:51.520
the concept itself is wild so now to do it in the arena and then they've had these main characters
02:10:56.640
now like the regulars like hans kim and uh david lucas yeah and now oh cam newton oh cam patterson
02:11:03.120
uh pat fuck yeah racist yeah but um yeah even he's hilarious dude i want to have him come on
02:11:12.240
here yeah where are you based right now i'm based in tennessee and los angeles and la yeah i see you
02:11:18.880
go back how often do you spend between both i tour probably six months and the rest i do like four
02:11:24.400
months in tennessee road dog two months in la so what where's next after this you're going to australia
02:11:29.680
right we're going to australia and then we got like atlanta new orleans new orleans we're gonna
02:11:34.000
put a show up at iowa sometime soon yeah so a lot of great places still to go perform man it's been
02:11:39.200
awesome man world's a big place man i mean i know we want to go to south africa we want to go home
02:11:44.000
there wait till the ufc goes there yeah yeah wait yeah like the ufc is definitely gonna go there
02:11:50.080
and when it does i'll be right there too i think well what you perform tonight i think it'll be my first
02:11:55.040
time seeing you live oh yeah yeah well we better go get ready too yeah i've only seen you on netflix
02:12:00.160
but yeah i can't wait oh this will hopefully be better i think or david enjoyed my brother enjoyed
02:12:05.280
it last night he did yeah fuck yeah that's fair it was dope yeah so i can't wait that's some of the
02:12:10.000
the gang yeah let's get it easy um izzy thanks so much man i don't think there's anything else to
02:12:16.240
say right now wait till i retire then we'll talk all right yeah we'll get deep deal bro i appreciate
02:12:22.000
it man thank you so much for your time man and thanks for the documentary too thanks for being
02:12:25.520
vulnerable i really respect that especially when people in opposition don't have to fake the funk
02:12:30.240
you can just be honest about what's really going on so i appreciate that and that's good for everyone
02:12:34.240
else to see we're human yeah we're trying our best to be trying that's adults i'm adulting i don't even
02:12:40.480
know sometimes i'm like how did we get here how do i i know like am i meant to i have houses now
02:12:47.120
i know i know that's crazy i'm like i'm doing all right i know even rogan told me one time he's
02:12:53.360
like sometimes it's scary because i'll pull into my house and i'm in the garage and i'll feel like
02:12:57.440
somebody's gonna come in right after me and just take it all away damn he said sometimes that's that
02:13:01.520
keeps you hungry though it's a thing that just happens to people yeah um but israel thank you so
02:13:07.520
much thank you theo yeah brother gang gang baby we'll see you in uh style bender we'll see you in
02:13:12.160
africa baby praise baby now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves
02:13:23.040
i must be cornerstone oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can