E496 A Carny
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1 hour and 56 minutes
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218.93184
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Summary
On this episode of The Carny Babies, we are joined by Mitch Candiano, aka Mitch the Carny Baby. Mitch is a carnival carny from the New England area, and his family has been involved in the carnival business for over 100 years. Mitch talks about the history of the business, the behind the scenes of the food, the games, the prizes, the debauchery, and everything that goes in to the carny universe.
Transcript
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planned features and network management details today's guest is a carny out of the new england
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area and his family has been involved in the carnival business for over 100 years i'm excited to learn
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all about the behind the scenes of the food the games the prizes the um the debauchery everything
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that goes in uh to the carny universe today's guest is carny mitch candiano
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mitch the carny baby good to see you thank you man thank you for having me so thanks for coming
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on dude so we just want to learn about carnies and carnival employees fairs everything like it
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um what is carny an appropriate term yeah i was born and raised a carny really my grandparents were
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carnies my parents were carnies my brother and his kids are carnies no way oh yeah so it runs deep man
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1918 he started and can i say before we really get going yeah i gotta thank you for having a poor
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pedestrian like me on because you know i don't wear a watch and i don't use a washcloth so tom would
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never have me on oh yeah does he yeah he doesn't like the pores he doesn't like the pores i don't
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know why yeah i don't know dude i think we're great people yeah look i don't yeah i'm not yeah i don't
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have a washcloth i'd i probably should have one that's what i use yeah yes he hates washcloths oh he
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hates them he hates them yeah yeah yeah i think well i i'll use a washcloth like to get like in here
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though yeah right i mean how do you get it out get in there really i try to use my fingernail and
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getting it out and then just like putting it like that into the drain or whatever but i don't think
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that's enough sometimes especially as you get older yeah you know um but yeah wet willy yeah you got
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it doing a wet willy on somebody yeah yeah i remember doing oh i'm gonna sneak one up on you later
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are you really dude just wear a condom oh i will okay that's all i'm asking for you know
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i mean it's a leash you could do dude the irish hello sure man yeah it's our first time hanging
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too so i'll definitely keep it covered yeah um but dude thanks yeah so i guess i'm just curious like
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so what is a carny what is the term so a carny carnival you know carnival worker okay i guess is
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where it came from and uh so that's what we are and i know there's all different versions i know
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people sometimes think of like uh somebody that just got out of prison covered in tattoos smelling
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like cabbage you know missing a couple fingers and they think that's a carny that's working the
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ride or something like that oh yeah that iris deodorant yeah you know and uh we don't we carnies
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don't call them carnies we call them like 40 milers or green help or something like that because
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like a 40 miler he's just trying to get onto the road and get 40 miles down the street to the next
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lot so you get out of whatever situation he was in when he joined the carnival okay so there's
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different types you have actual carnies that are like they've been in there for a while yeah
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like their families are out there they have kids they raise their kids out there and then you got
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40 milers yeah we call them 40 milers and those are guys that are just kind of like maybe just got
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out of doing some time and they're just trying to try to get a job and you know get out of town and get
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out of town yeah just trying to get there for just something yeah and so a lot of times the
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carnival will hire folks like that just because they need like a lot of short it's tough to find help
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out there you know people that want to travel and just be out there every day and you know living
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at the carnival yeah and you're in a different town every week and you know you don't get much
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time off so it's it's wild yeah it's interesting well it's kind of interesting it's kind of similar
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to uh comedians because you go to a town or a city for a few days and then you hit the road and you go
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to somewhere else yeah yeah um i'd say like that's like the calling like a uh open mic or like a comic
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is kind of like calling one of those ride guys a carny is kind of like the same thing you know
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okay i see what you're saying yeah yeah yeah that makes good sense man um and your family's been
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doing you said hundreds of years well since 1918 my grandfather started selling cotton candy in 1918
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wow yeah and what brought him into that i'm really not sure he came over from italy when he was born
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in 1900 and so he was about four or five years old came over on the boat to ellis island and all that
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and uh i don't know he was 18 years old and started selling cotton candy at like street fairs and little
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things like that and um yeah it's just kind of how we started and got into it i actually still have
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some cotton candy machines that he built handmade like wooden frame and like you know belt driven
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like old old school they obviously don't work but because then now they're like all sturdy metal
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like you know industrial looking like the ones we use now whirlpool makes them yeah yeah something
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like that but um yeah we have yeah your cotton candy will have a fucking sock in it or whatever
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you're like this is like one of these you're looking at yeah so we have a couple like that
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as a older those are kind of like the those kind of seem like residential ones that you can kind of
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like buy for your house so your grandfather came over and he started selling cotton so he started
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selling cotton candy yeah he's selling cotton candy and then like what he just gets a job he stays like
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he just kept doing it and then you know he had kids and then my father got into it and my father
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mother started their own whole carnival business oh they started buying rides and games and food and
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everything and uh you know we had a whole carnival called candiano's amusements you know way back
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before i was born and then when i was born they kind of split up and my dad started working for bigger
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carnivals like the real big ones that did big the big county fairs and state fairs and stuff like that
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yeah so he started working for a company like that and then went for ended up working for uh another
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the biggest one in new england called fiesta shows and so he worked for them up until he died and so
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he was kind of like you know a big shot out there he ran like food and games and stuff for him out there
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and was a lot man so what and so did you what was one of your first jobs in the carnival yeah yep and so
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what's the difference between a carnival and a fair because we had the fair would come a lot yeah so the
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fair is the same thing yeah it's basically except the fair is they have like the animals and everything
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like that like you have the whole agricultural part of it you know and sometimes they'll have
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like demolition derbies and oh yeah and all that and like the races and um all the agricultural like
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the pigs definitely yeah all that stuff so that's what kind of distinguishes it from a fair to a
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carnival and they kind of been long running like up where we are we have the tops field fair it's been
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around for like 150 years or something like that yeah how does that 4h element fit in because that's
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also a whole different element than the rides and the games yeah that's kind of you would always like
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i remember we'd always have to walk over to like the livestock shed or whatever it's like a bomb
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shelter or whatever that had a bunch of pigs in it and stuff and you'd have to go over there and uh
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pig races you ever see those yeah and they have like the kids art like you'd won like third place
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whatever it was pretty bad a lot of like jesus christ like they hid it over here behind the
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goats you know it wasn't that great of art but you'd be able to go over there and like um they
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had like crocheting and a lot of local crafts but uh did you guys ever have beef was there like a lot
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of like beef between carnies and the livestock was in the carnivals between the carnival wow like so
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during the spring when we're doing just carnivals we would split up into like three different
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sections so you could do three cities at the same time but then when we got to the fairs we would
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all get together and then the fights would break out oh yeah like crazy fights so what was a lot
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of the beef between the people the workers oh i'm a first unit no you know you're just a lonely guy
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from the third unit like you know you shouldn't be over here like with us or partying with us or
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hanging you know they kind of look down on you like it's just like anything else you know the first
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unit got all the big rides and the nice stuff and then the second unit was kind of stepped down oh yeah and
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then the third unit was like they got all the shit all the bad rides all the bad stuff so whenever
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they all teamed up it was all these beefs going on like you know oh territorial stuff territorial stuff
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yeah yeah huh so like what was your first job in in it i think my first i think i was probably
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probably selling cotton candy probably in the in the floss we call it a floss stand and it was the one
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that did cotton candy snow cones popcorn and candy apples oh yeah yeah and the caramel apples sprinkles
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i love that man i still make caramel apples do you oh that's so good that's so good man and people
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don't think about them that much no if you ask somebody what are you thinking about they never
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say caramel apples that's true it just you know it's like something you don't hear as much as you
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wish you should because they're so good when you get them they're so good yeah they really are
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and was that like what goes into making cotton candy like what is it sugar and and coloring oh
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okay that's it sugar and coloring yeah and it's honestly not a lot of sugar but what how does it
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get the um cotton or whatever it heats up huh so it heats the sugar up so it like gets real stringy
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and like fluffs out like that it goes in the machine so that's that head there in the middle spins
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really fast and it heats up some people get crazy with the cotton candy have you seen the people that
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make the animals and stuff with the cotton candy uh-uh oh no you should check that out really oh
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they get crazy they make all kinds of animals and stuff with the cotton candy to give to the kids
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i don't know how they do it i got a girl that works for me one of mitch's bitches yeah yeah and she
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wants to start figuring out how to do that really yeah and that's what you call them mitch's bitches i
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don't call them that they call themselves that oh yeah so don't cancel me guys no it could be a union
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yeah who knows a lot of yeah there's a lot of different unions i'll study yeah so there's in
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the pipe fitters union and he's always yelling about something but um yeah these girls they call
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themselves mitch's bitches huh yeah they all made shirts that say mitch's bitches on it it's pretty
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wild and those are your friends yeah friends yeah i pretty much hire friends or they become friends
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real fast once they start working for me yeah like sill love you babe and so what about this bring
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that back up sorry i'm just trying to learn about this so cotton candy it is made by heating and
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liquefying sugar and spinning it centrifugally through minute holes minute holes causing it to
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rapidly cool and re-solidify in a fine strands it is often sold at fair circuses carnivals wow
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so you just put some sugar in a hot in the hot yeah and that thing that spins in the middle you pour
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sugar in there and you call it you call it the sugar ahead of time okay and you start spinning and
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next thing you know it makes cotton candy yes it's coming out crazy and you got your stick and you
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whipping it around how fast how long does it take it doesn't take long to fill up a bag
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wow but i don't know if this guy's gonna get crazy maybe he does i don't know i've seen some
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there are some people that really make some intricate stuff with the cotton candy yeah there's
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a machine that's just kind of like the one i have just like that so that was like my first gig you
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know like there's a picture of me i was born in the summer so like as soon as i was born my mom
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had me right out on the road with her uh-huh so there's a picture of me sitting by the con in my
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little car seat sitting up by the cotton candy machine while she's making cotton candy you know
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a month old seriously so your family was just out there like oh yeah and so like what towns was that
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usually oh man we did like the topsfield fair the marshfield fair out on cape cod the bangor and
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scowhegan fair up in maine rochester fair in new hampshire uh hopkinson fair in new hampshire
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um but it was a really big one in connecticut we did wow yeah and then in the spring it was just
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all the spring was always sometimes you do some a lot of the same stuff but a lot of times
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it would get switched up because like if you didn't do that well the year before or whatever
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you know they would find you another place to go yeah you know and towards the end i don't do
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carnivals anymore i'm still in the business of like selling food and stuff like that but i don't do
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carnivals because towards the end of when i was doing it they were still like we were doing like
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these closed down strip centers you know i mean like old ames and kmart parking lots where everything's
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boarded up and we're in the parking lot trying to make nobody's coming you got like you know nobody
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there so this is uh somebody making cotton candy right here yep is this the machine you're talking
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about mine's similar to that i don't know if it's they have a different speed or a heat it might be the
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same because but it does seem like a different consistency than the one i use that that i make
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and so what is it the sugar's in there just spraying it out really hot yep and it cools off
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immediately oh wow so this is that's all cotton candy so this is a cotton candy machine right here
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yep okay and so that's the sugar is inside of that see that little thing yeah that's spinning super
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fast right in the middle it's spinning so fast you can't even tell it's spinning yeah and it's just
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blowing hot sugar hot sugar oh yeah and now this wow and this is a korean guy oh he's getting down
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he'll make an umbrella it looks like he's making yeah like maybe a ufo yeah something
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wow yeah these guys get creative i don't know how they do it so you guys would never do anything
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like this at the fairs huh no i didn't even really leave it on sticks that often because i i wasn't that
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good at spinning it because you want it to be like nice and big and fluffy on a stick when yeah
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people that's true and so i wasn't even that great at that i would always put it in a bag and sell the
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bag cotton candy wow this is unbelievably creative yeah oh here we go now do you get jealous when you
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see somebody taking it to another level of course i know me too it's like when you see somebody that's
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just that great they're crushing it on the stage like meeting tim dylan you're like ah damn
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i'm just regular cotton candy oh man you and tim were on the same level come on oh that guy's so
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funny he is oh it's just so funny to be around um thank you for saying that it's nice you to say
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that um okay so you're working the cotton candy that's how you get started out what kind of like
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groups are at the car at the carnival at the uh yeah we definitely say separated okay what kind of
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groups are at the carnival like are there because there's the games right there are the joinies the
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what is it we call them joinies joinies yep and what what is that the joints because the trailers we
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call them joints okay and so they work the joints okay so they work the games those are the joints
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and then there's the food yep and the concessions concessions and then there's and then you got the
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ride jocks ride jocks yep and are those groups kind of like they keep to their own a little bit or
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yeah for the most part the joinies and concessions are mingled and you know i mingled with everybody
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just i knew everybody but you know a lot of times some of the ride guys would mingle with some of the
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some of the concessions a little bit and you know they would mingle a little bit but for the most part
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they were with their own crews you know yeah did you ever work the rides i yeah yeah i did it all i
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because you know i was just out there and when i was a kid before i even like worked officially i would
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like i knew everybody so i would jump on the ride hey let me run this ride for a little while or i
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work inside the haunted houses scaring people when i was like you know 12 13 years old right you know
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and like they had the walk-in you know haunted houses or the ones you ride through and i would
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go in there and like scare the people coming through and stuff like that and you know that was always fun
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and why is your family so tied in just for doing it for so long right honestly and um you know even
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before my father you know i had i had um my grandfather around the same time i guess well
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yeah he was i got my i had a great uncle or was he he was my father's great uncle i believe more
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cousin and he was already big in the in the circus business he was one of the biggest freaks in the
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world he was uh most famous three-legged man frank lentini frank lentini yep there he is
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oh wow yeah he had three legs four feet two dicks 16 toes oh wow oh yeah two wieners on him yep
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oh my gosh two peepees dude i couldn't even you could serve dude you could serve yeah it's almost
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like you're like a damn soda fountain at that point leg dick leg dick leg leg oh you could have
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urine and infantile you know it was wild and they both worked really yeah oh my gosh and how did
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y'all know that was it did they write it down somewhere yeah well because he was so everybody
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wanted to know you know so like when he was traveling the freak shows and he was really well
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spoken they called him like the mayor of the freaks because he would go and speak for everybody like
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when he'd be like you know we want more money or we want better working conditions or whatever
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he would be the guy that would go talk to everybody he worked for ring lane uh barnum and bailey he
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worked for all the all the big freak shows and circuses wow frank lentini was born in sicily in
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1881 he was the fifth of 12 children yeah and they didn't his parents didn't really like him
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that much gave him to his aunt yeah they were kind of ashamed of him because he had three legs
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each of different lengths now that yeah that is a that's a lot too you know because then you're like
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um throw it your hip like that's gonna be crazy yeah it's gotta be tough on your joints a fourth foot
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that stuck out of one of his knees 16 fingers and an extra set of genitals wow running on that spare
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jenny dude huh keep the lights on bro uh his condition was the result of a parasitic twin
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that was attached to his body at the base of his spine wow that was too they couldn't take it off
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because especially back then i'm sure that but they definitely it was too dangerous to try to remove
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he would go on to work with every major circus including barnum and bailey in his act he would
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kick a soccer ball ride a bike and skate yeah he'd kick it out of his third leg like hold the ball
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over a football and kick it with his third leg yeah oh bro that's got to be so incredible huh
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yeah imagine running and you can just kick somebody with your third leg while you're running
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dude imagine you could play footsie with both with two women under the table i'd still have an extra
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leg in different directions yeah and one let and one extra foot to tap to the music you're listening
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to dude what a time brother his career spanned more than 40 years and he came to be known as the king
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in the circus industry for his hard work and presence he married and had four children wow
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yeah all the children came out fine he got a lung failure damn you'd think he got it well he got one
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of his legs caught in something you know i'm saying just the odds because every now and then i almost
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get one of my legs caught in something wow look at that zoom in on one of these photos please
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i love the one on the right where he's got like the one in the and he's got each other foot on a stool
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is that such a trip yeah it almost looks like uh no let's go to the other one that he was talking
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about yeah that what you mean the black and the leather yeah wow look at those pants those pants
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have to be like what the fuck are we doing he said he would buy two sets of shoes and he would give
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his uh fourth shoe the extra shoe to a buddy that lost a leg oh so they all went to use oh that's
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beautiful man yeah you just don't see that kind of stuff anymore that's the toughest part about stuff
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um wow unbelievable look at that dude there he is there's an old man down there yeah can we get
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one more picture of him frank lentini oh how wow i wonder what would it be like imagine you this had
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to be such a flex so you cross your leg and then you cross the other one over
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bro you must people must have thought you were jordan peterson no matter what
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right that had to be so wild unbelievable what i used a picture of him on the uh back of an
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allison chains album was there yeah they have a three-legged dog on the front and he's the
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three-legged man on the back i think i remember that yeah it's actually their best album down in a
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hole is that them yeah i'd like to fly but my wings have is all denied you know it dude that's so
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incredible so this is a relative of yours yeah yeah he was um he was my dad's either great uncle or
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cousin i can't remember i i tried to like really narrow it down but it's you know so long ago and
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um my dad's not with us so i can't ask him anymore i'm sorry to hear that man it's all right um 23 and
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me though they might not even have these kind of yeah my my brother actually started doing that
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so i'm back to see with the 23 and me and like yeah he's got the ancestry going on so he's trying
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to like put it all together yeah yeah so i tried to find out some more information about him through
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that i know he had four kids um they were all came out normal no parasitic twins there wow so yeah
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being a parasitic twin can you bring that up for me first of all i've always thought twins should
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have to fight to see who when who gets to make the shots call the shots to stay alive yeah you know
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that's got to be tough and i'm not saying that nobody deserves to be alive but it's just like
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because it's kind of crazy when you meet one guy and then you meet and you know they're kind of just
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each half of a guy or whatever and you're like what are we doing here like at least you two get
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together and decide what you want to say and then come tell us you know exactly because it's a lot
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of extra kind of like back and forth you know a parasitic twin is a type of conjoined twin where
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one fetus stops developing but remains attached to its twin wow the other twin continues to develop
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but is usually born with the limbs organs or other tissue structures from its parasitic twin still
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attached it's a very rare condition gosh dude imagine two to see what is that sorry oh no that's another
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child oh that's how does it uh she looks like tila tequila a little bit i can see that you don't
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talk about yeah um doja cat i don't know that's doja cat dude that's bro that's fucking hilarious
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dude i don't even know what doja cat looks like
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oh i don't know dude no that kid has longer hair than doja cat i think yeah imagine being a parasitic
00:23:09.620
like imagine knowing that your brother or something was like a part of you and now that they're
00:23:13.680
it's almost like you got to live it's like nature like yeah but you must feel a lot there must be
00:23:18.660
like a lot of responsibility you know and then seeing your brother's wiener if you look at your
00:23:22.660
own wiener and seeing your brother's wiener does that make you gay if you jerk off that wiener
00:23:27.240
no dude it just makes you a cool brother i think
00:23:30.800
touche dude to not polish your brother off once a year or something on you know yeah that's kind of
00:23:38.340
day after christmas or whatever it's not rude i think it's just well if you don't ever let them come
00:23:42.660
yeah that is kind of rude it's uh i bet when you get to heaven he's gonna be like hey come on
00:23:49.080
god 36 years and not one nut yeah brother i left that thing down there for a reason
00:23:55.860
he took advantage of that yeah i'm the one who helped you out and gave you the third leg i gave
00:24:00.180
you a fucking job you know that's wild man um so people like frank lentini what was that group
00:24:07.260
that group was called what is freaks freaks okay they were the freak show the freak shows
00:24:11.740
and that was popular did you ever work with that um so occasionally the carnivals would have freak
00:24:18.240
shows join up with us um but they were all you know corner store freaks they weren't really great
00:24:25.800
like we had the we had the uh the ripoff of the lobster man and i actually think he was a relative
00:24:31.380
of the original lobster man but he had fake gloves that he would put on to make himself have fake
00:24:36.500
lobster hands oh really oh yeah that's not real no we had a lot of that yeah yeah so it was a lot
00:24:42.560
of yeah because they had like the freaks were like the bearded lady i remember you would hear about
00:24:47.100
um what like the four-titted sister whatever you they'd always have something you know the lispy jew
00:24:53.600
they always have something rolling the lizard man or something like that man a real life mermaid
00:24:59.140
was really one they'd have a girl in a tank with like a fake suit on acting like she was a real
00:25:03.500
mermaid yeah yeah oh yeah the four-shouldered italian they'd have that guy yeah um oh the smallest
00:25:10.580
horse i met the world's smallest horse one time we used to have that too yeah tom thumb is the one
00:25:15.120
that i met i don't know the name of the one i had we had but yeah he was at the fairs with the
00:25:20.040
agriculture he'd be they pay 50 cents and get to walk up and walk around and see and go in yeah
00:25:25.140
they had the dollar they had i remember they had one dude at the fair in our town it was like
00:25:29.580
if you gave him a dollar he would tell you if you were fat or not right yeah like guess your age or
00:25:34.920
your weight or like stuff like that but this dude i remember you give him a dollar and he'd just call
00:25:38.720
you fucking fat oh really and then you just yeah he was like the fat dollar guy or whatever
00:25:44.160
that's like what the fuck you just walk off you're like jesus christ i think he was just out there
00:25:52.280
hustling people yeah he might not even have worked with the with the carnival dude honestly that's a
00:25:55.900
new one that guy could have been working different here's a couple of them right here general tom thumb
00:26:00.720
uh charles sherwood stratton was actually a relative of pt barnum when barnum learned of stratton's
00:26:06.300
dwarfism he sensed opportunity barnum took stratton under his wing and taught him how to sing dance and
00:26:11.840
impersonate famous historical figures wow oh that was the lobster boy oh here's lobster boy right here
00:26:18.620
as shocking as his appearance is grady styles real life story is even more shocking styles condition
00:26:23.780
was known as ectrodactyl ectrodactyly i think you got it ectrodactyly which causes hands and feet to
00:26:34.240
fuse into claws yes the condition ran in styles family in fact he was the sixth generation in his
00:26:42.300
family to have it his father was already performing in the circus when grady was born so he entered
00:26:46.500
circus life early as the lobster boy wow that was his kid yeah pinching ass and taking names on that
00:26:53.520
guy wow look at him and there's a picture right there of bearded lady and lobster boy they fell in
00:26:59.960
love oh that's that's romantic a valentine's day love story huh wow i wonder what their kids would come
00:27:07.660
like huh yeah bearded lobsters yeah it'd be interesting i mean it would probably be something
00:27:13.160
yeah you'd see it like one of those fancy omakase places or whatever you know i don't think benihana
00:27:19.720
would be running that it's probably not you know get you a cut of freaking hair lobster you know it might
00:27:24.740
be who else did they have let me see a few more of them these were all the freaks right yeah lionel the
00:27:30.800
lion-faced man born steven bebrowski in 1891 poland lionel the lion-faced man endured a medical
00:27:39.920
condition known as hyper trichosis which is commonly associated with werewolf syndrome for obvious
00:27:46.840
reasons in an odd twist of fate his mother was convinced the condition was caused by her witnessing
00:27:52.720
his father being mauled by a lion when she was pregnant still that was a coincidence albeit a crazy
00:27:59.620
coincidence wow i haven't heard of him unable to handle his appearance any longer she put him up
00:28:05.580
for adoption when he was four years old oh he was adopted by a german entertainer who put him
00:28:11.520
onto the circus circuit see and he made a life for himself we still we need freak shows it's true
00:28:16.840
that way these freaks can make a living yeah they don't have and and they had i remember what was
00:28:22.180
that thing they had a dime i want to think because they almost had one in the tent a dime museum can
00:28:29.260
you look that up i thought you were talking about somebody that pays a dime dime museum and freak
00:28:34.400
shows from the popular coney island amusement park in new york city to traveling circuses and sideshows
00:28:38.860
exhibits that featured people with physical differences with some sort of the most prevalent
00:28:43.740
attractions in the 19th and early 20th centuries wow dime museums often featured humans who were
00:28:49.840
considered different for the public to view and experience yeah because i think they had some places
00:28:55.000
where you could pay a dime i guess was the name i'm assuming from 1840 until 1940 freak shows were
00:29:00.880
at their height historians typically marked 1840 as the beginning of the freak show era the museum
00:29:06.320
contained many exhibits of historic artifacts and gaffes oh that was the year pt barnum began the
00:29:11.900
american museum a new york city attraction that cost a dime to enter there it is the museum also housed
00:29:17.820
many people who were considered to be rarities worthy of exhibition wow so you'd have other
00:29:23.040
people included tom tom tom there he is a person with dwarfism the aztec twins albinos
00:29:29.880
um and many other living curiosities wow dude that's almost like a deke fraternity somewhere you know
00:29:38.440
it really is i mean it's yeah it's different but it's probably similar so you so did you ever cross
00:29:43.760
you cross paths with some of these guys but it wasn't like yeah not like like i said though the
00:29:48.860
the lobster man a boy that was with us i had heard i didn't really talk that he was a relative
00:29:53.760
of the actual lobster man but he had fake claws that he would put on and uh we actually had one of
00:29:58.500
the last living munchkin though that was out there touring with us at the freak show is one of the
00:30:03.520
dwarfs and he was on he was one of the original munchkins and smoking bongs with him he'd have to stand
00:30:09.640
up on the on a picnic table in order to like hit the bong would he yeah oh that's beautiful yeah he
00:30:14.960
was like 70 years old hitting the bong with us 70 yeah wow i think he was that old i was i was young
00:30:21.120
but i'm pretty sure he was up there and he was a little little guy yeah he was in a munchkin from
00:30:24.840
the original uh movie wow wizard of oz he was in wizard of oz yeah you smoke dope with a wizard of
00:30:30.300
oz munchkin yeah no way dude that's incredible man it was pretty wild god dang that's lucky
00:30:37.140
yeah that's crazy man because just to be able to get to do something like that yeah wow i'll watch
00:30:42.880
that movie a bunch jerry maron that was the guy he or this was one of them the last surviving adult
00:30:49.460
munchkin okay when did he die what's it say that 2016 okay yeah it was probably him because he said
00:30:55.680
he was the last one bring up a picture of this dude wow and there he is right there i was at the
00:31:03.060
carnival so he could have been bullshitting me too yeah he could have been full of shit it could
00:31:05.780
have just been a little dude trying to fucking get high yeah well he could have been a seven
00:31:09.940
year old with a cane trying to fucking fucking put a beard on him yeah somebody put a beard on him
00:31:14.680
look at jerry maron right there on wikipedia he's huffing he's got a cigar on him right there wow
00:31:19.640
oh yeah that guy that's beautiful um so so the freaks weren't as much of a part of you guys's
00:31:28.200
universe not as much no you know and now what about the rides because yeah i want to go through some
00:31:33.100
of the different stuff because by us they would have the rides would come right oh yeah the fair
00:31:37.220
would come we were excited we lived right down the street from the fairground so we walk over
00:31:42.220
there and um the day before the fair you could go and for 50 cents you could get on a ride but
00:31:48.640
they were just plugging them bitches in yeah man and you were the test subjects oh dude you would
00:31:54.000
somebody's going flying off oh the zipper we go in that dude i you ever you remember the zip
00:31:59.560
zip is my favorite ride oh bro i i'd get all my money i'd have saved up my allowance i would go
00:32:06.020
down there because the day before because if you went regular the day it was eight dollars to get
00:32:10.080
in and we're like fuck that dude you know i got two dollars i'm going in i got my quarters in my
00:32:15.280
pockets but the zipper would shake all your money out of your pocket they did that on purpose oh dude
00:32:20.760
it was horrible i get out i had no more money i had to vomit it was shake i remember it shook a couple
00:32:25.180
of my teeth like my baby teeth out or whatever like i believe it yeah you get out you had no
00:32:29.960
enamel you had no money yeah because they could really get it going when they want they know how
00:32:34.520
to run it so they could like really get you whipping around and drop it it was whole it it it was
00:32:39.580
unbelievable it literally felt like you've been putting the garbage disposal yep that was a tough
00:32:44.100
ride i loved it did you yeah it was my favorite one really yeah what was cool though when i was a kid
00:32:49.740
in school and you know you would go on field trips to the fair i don't know if you guys did that at
00:32:53.180
your school but we would take field trips to the topsfield fair when we were in grade school
00:32:56.640
but i would skip that day of school and i would just go to the carnival of the fair with my father
00:33:01.220
and uh the rides weren't open yet they kind of were only there they're supposed to be going to
00:33:05.920
the 4-h stuff and all the agricultural stuff and so i would go over and grab sneak over some of my
00:33:11.300
grab my friends from the uh from their chaperones and bring them over to the rides and the ride guys
00:33:15.240
would let us all ride the rides while they were rest of the school was at the 4-h section oh that's
00:33:19.480
nice so it was pretty cool oh yeah because you were kind of dialed in huh yeah yeah yeah i knew
00:33:24.460
everybody you know they all looked out for me i was like oh it's little mitch like i knew it because
00:33:28.220
i was running around as a little kid so everybody you know knew and it would copy a little bit of
00:33:32.060
drugs or something sometimes oh yeah yeah it was it was wild was the drug use out there a little bit
00:33:39.120
yeah yeah just a little bit and what were the drugs really what were some of it i mean weed yeah
00:33:45.320
of course weed alcohol i mean especially i mean when we were at the fairs you're open for so long
00:33:51.060
like you close at 11 at night you had to open 11 in the morning so we're crushing beers as fast as
00:33:56.440
we can once we close to get as drunk and as fucked up as fast as we can to go to sleep or just if we
00:34:02.300
could yeah just have fun and were people doing drugs too like what kind of uppers are we talking
00:34:07.260
cocaine oh yeah oh yeah yeah plenty of cocaine fuck yeah i'll tell you just to step up though they
00:34:14.640
have straightened out these days they drug test and all that shit now but bro if you drug test the
00:34:19.860
guy who's working the fair ride for me get fucked you want a good ride or not i want a real ride for
00:34:26.760
a real drug using american that's what i want yes okay dude we used to go we would get on the
00:34:33.240
gravitron right it was great we would throw so many parties and that at night bro this one guy
00:34:39.700
we get in there right and i remember like that you would get against the thing and it would like
00:34:43.860
slowly move you up the wall yeah start spinning and there was a guy in the middle who's like are you
00:34:48.880
ready to rock i'm like who the fuck is he talking to right this guy was always just in his own world
00:34:53.520
oh yeah and the thing was spinning and i swear one time this dude got his wing like was just showing
00:34:59.280
his wiener to people and he was playing a nice day for a wide wedding and you were so you couldn't
00:35:07.500
even turn your so even though you felt like you were visually being molested or whatever you couldn't
00:35:12.680
turn your head to look and see if anybody else knew what was going on so you get off and everybody
00:35:19.160
was just afraid to say i think we just seen that guy's wiener you know um to november rain you know
00:35:26.200
oh that's pretty sweet and there was some parts of it were nice when they would play some of the
00:35:30.560
ballads in there but yeah that was harrowing going in there yeah that ride's pretty crazy
00:35:35.600
sometimes the guy would get out if you got a really wild guy he would get out
00:35:39.640
and he would come because you know how they had the fence and hang on the pole
00:35:43.700
yeah dude it walked and hang and pull himself around it and go back in while the ride was running
00:35:49.300
you're like what is this guy doing yeah the dude would be walking i totally he would walk he could
00:35:53.800
even walk around yeah yeah you have to hold on to the railing but he could walk around it yeah
00:35:57.780
oh my god i forgot about that yeah he kind of was like the guy at the skating rink that kind of was
00:36:04.160
like with the shat like the dude who would go through and do the backwards skating and like skate
00:36:09.280
through your girlfriend's legs or whatever like who the fuck is this guy yeah it like kind of reminded
00:36:13.660
me of that guy you know oh here he is right here this is somebody on a gravitron there's somebody
00:36:18.400
trying to sit up on it yeah he's trying to push it up on his own yeah something
00:36:22.320
we used to like flip ourselves upside down and be upside down in there on the against the wall
00:36:29.900
yeah he could move all around oh wow yeah we didn't know we were too small to do some of this this is
00:36:36.740
like late teens oh that kid looks about ourselves yeah oh yeah he's standing straight out oh yeah
00:36:41.980
that's dude vapes oh yeah he does um yeah it was fun we used to throw a lot of after parties in
00:36:47.940
the gravitron in the gravitron yeah yeah take me through some of that like and is it men and women
00:36:52.300
come to or no depend yeah i mean we had some girls out there working for sure yeah some of the guys
00:36:57.780
were definitely better looking yeah but uh you know we had we had we had some ratchets up
00:37:03.280
i mean if you're gonna work a ride and travel the carnival and especially if it was 20 30 years ago
00:37:10.740
yeah yeah it was gotta be a tough chick you sure do and like there was some of them i mean this one
00:37:15.780
girls you know they had crazy this girl had bust a nut on me tattooed on her ankle oh yeah you know
00:37:22.120
head hoe was another one tattooed on her wow yeah these girls some of them had the lot lizards tattooed
00:37:27.700
on their feet really oh yeah so it was women that were probably just doing their best out there that
00:37:34.340
had been through a lot probably yeah i mean you got good ones too i'm not gonna lie bust a nut on me is a
00:37:39.060
lot that was that was pretty rough well i felt like it was yeah i thought it was sexual harassment
00:37:44.740
every time she walked past me i was like this is she wasn't good looking oh yeah well she's not
00:37:51.260
saying marry me you know what i'm saying like but but still that's all yeah that seems to be
00:37:57.020
yeah bust and then what do you even say now that she's married as a family what do you even adjust
00:38:03.440
those letters like like um yeah what could you change that to oh you could do us you me i think
00:38:11.700
bust if you put the b and t bust a take out the a cover that up nut take out the n and t just the u
00:38:19.660
yeah us and then it would be a blank and then it would be you just the u and then nut on me
00:38:27.580
take out the on and just me does that make any sense or not not really but it's probably still
00:38:33.980
better than bust a nut on me yeah it would be it would just say you i would say us you me yep
00:38:40.440
yeah you make it work i think it'll walk in it'll go over better yeah if you're at the grocery market
00:38:49.840
it's gonna go way better because if you're walking over by the cabbage you get some hella fresh
00:38:55.100
produce on your back you know you're like where's that from well you told me dude that's the
00:39:00.220
freshest produce they got for good semen bro yeah take me through like a good party night out there
00:39:05.900
oh well the party nights like in the gravitron yeah because they had the sound system in there
00:39:10.440
already oh yeah you know and you had the walls so you can get in there and like you know really
00:39:14.600
be able to party and get loud and not bother too many the the you know the bosses because you
00:39:20.220
know the bosses still stayed out there in their trailers too so you didn't always you didn't
00:39:23.380
want to wake them up in the middle of the night and have them come out like bars everybody get
00:39:27.280
in here bunkhouse everybody you know we open in three hours wow so yeah and what was the sleeping
00:39:33.140
quarters like so i mean be honest with you my family didn't care where i slept at that point like
00:39:38.880
i was 13 14 just sleeping wherever wow yeah mostly in games i'd sleep in the game at night one of the
00:39:44.960
games no way really yeah wow it was pretty wild yeah it was i mean i've even slept i mean wherever
00:39:53.920
sometimes especially when you're going over the road like everything's torn down you got no place
00:39:57.460
to go you're waiting for your ride like i passed out in the generator box before just waiting and what
00:40:02.260
is that just the electrical thing yeah the giant generators that run everything yeah and because
00:40:06.120
everything's packed up and that thing's always open you got a nice cozy pile of wires you can crawl up
00:40:10.540
on like a cat and pass out for a little bit yeah and it's kind of romantic almost yeah it's it's
00:40:17.560
wild i mean for the most part when you got a little older you know um yeah were there bunks so like
00:40:21.480
where did everybody sleep so they had bunks the ride guys had bunks okay so the ride operators had bunks
00:40:27.260
yeah they would put most of those guys up in bunks and were they like a trailer like what type of bunks
00:40:31.480
yeah it was just a giant trailer they would buy like they almost looked like one of the uh like an
00:40:36.820
18 wheeler trailer uh-huh and they would just turn it into uh bunk rooms they would just chop it all
00:40:41.640
up okay um some of them they had some that were built professionally as house trailers they had
00:40:46.940
those ones too and they were i mean those were it was pretty tough because it was like
00:40:51.220
bunk two bunk beds and you know you're in there with and it was tiny it was like a closet with just
00:40:56.320
two beds yeah and you know that's where they had the ride got the uh the games and the joinies were
00:41:02.480
on their own unless you know what do you mean on their own like people would sleep in sleeping
00:41:06.240
bags or people would stay at motels or what yeah wherever you could like if you made enough money
00:41:09.800
to get a motel you get a motel if you didn't you didn't you'd sleep in a tent or like there was a
00:41:14.260
at a point after i stopped staying staying in the games when i was younger i ended up bringing a couple
00:41:19.300
of my friends out on the road with me and so as soon as high school was done for the summer we'd go
00:41:24.020
out on the road until you know school started back up and so i'd probably bring a couple of friends
00:41:28.740
with me out there do ej and uh we we'd set up like our own tent city away from everybody so we could
00:41:34.680
party and not bother anybody yeah yeah we'd have a nice campfire we even brought we we used to
00:41:40.180
travel with uh a lizard with us too we always brought him with us we had a nice little cage
00:41:44.360
for him and he was our little buddy and we'd set him up yeah and we just drink we had out we had
00:41:48.680
all our tents and nice fire going and we'd party out there a couple men and a lizard bro it's like
00:41:53.160
the bible on our part you know like a whatever the new bible they'll write will be yeah the carny
00:41:57.960
bible yeah yeah it was fun man and um yeah a lot of people slept in their games so that would be it
00:42:05.700
you just crash in there and they would just pop it back open in the morning yep okay roll your
00:42:09.300
sleeping bag up put it under the counter and what were some of the other rides man do you remember
00:42:13.680
the sky master the sky master yeah or they call it the apollo sometimes it was two um yeah like two
00:42:22.680
like boats but they would go upside down so you were closed in and they swung like this they were
00:42:28.060
opposite they would swing opposite of each other and then they'd go upside down and sometimes they
00:42:31.940
would hold you up there yeah and hold you while you're upside down and you could shake it and like
00:42:36.760
shake everybody's money out of their pockets oh yeah there it is oh yeah yeah this was for the big
00:42:42.700
kids i don't think i went on this at the time yeah i used to run that sometimes so it was really easy
00:42:48.040
to tear down and set up and sometimes i would run it and you're in the dog house and you know it's
00:42:52.240
just a kind of just a remote control like a little joystick you get it going you rock it back and
00:42:56.120
forth until you get enough energy to get it up and around and you can hold it up there and you'd hold
00:43:00.940
it and you just shake it a little bit and wiggle it so it'd go back and forth a little bit and you
00:43:04.580
start shaking the money out of their pockets so it all falls down although one time there was a bad
00:43:08.800
scene bad scene because you're always supposed to wait till the end of the ride
00:43:12.100
to go pick up the money well a kid who ran it all the time was trying to be a daredevil and he ran
00:43:18.940
through to get the money while it was on while the ride was still in while he was up top ended up
00:43:24.540
getting hit oh yeah it was pretty wild he lived he lived he did live wow but it was a mess i wasn't
00:43:31.260
there at that at that carnival or fair when it happened but i was at the next one and you lose a
00:43:36.080
limb they put you just right over in a freak show now you go right to the freak show everything punts you
00:43:40.800
right or you could be in a game after that too you know because you can work a game with one arm
00:43:44.520
yeah or in a wheelchair wow so so a guy got damaged up pretty good yeah he got hit pretty good damn
00:43:51.900
it was pretty crazy is that one of the worst accidents you've ever seen out there
00:43:56.000
that was probably the worst yeah we were running that skydive at one time and the you know how you
00:44:04.300
got the shoulder bars that come down it had let go while the girl was in there but that you're caged
00:44:09.980
in still too but she was flopping around while it was going around like while she was upside down
00:44:14.000
the shoulder bars came up and she fell into the cart and like just getting just banged just getting
00:44:19.380
banged around while it was spinning around and how and how long if somebody's not doing well on a ride
00:44:23.260
can you shut it down for them does it take a few seconds yeah it'll take sometimes uh some take longer
00:44:29.620
than others to slow it out and come to a stop yeah i mean there was one the freak out i don't know if
00:44:36.280
you've heard of the freak out the freak out yeah it's a pretty dope ride now now that's my
00:44:41.340
favorite ride i'd say out of all of them let me see kind of like uh it's an arm and it's got these
00:44:46.480
other arms that come down and those spin while it goes back and forth and you get an awesome sense
00:44:52.560
of weightlessness almost like a like a roller coaster i'd say like that first drop there it is
00:44:58.240
freak out oh that's pretty cool looking yeah they didn't have the freak out oh so that so that goes
00:45:06.420
like a pendulum and spins and spins oh yeah and um dude i remember yeah we would get on that swing
00:45:15.260
one of them was like a swing set you just faced out yeah the swinger yeah and it would just then
00:45:20.640
you would just people would just be you would just people would be vomiting like people would
00:45:27.020
be like standing watching you and then literally you come around and just splash oh yeah just dose
00:45:33.000
them up with that fucking with that tummy skeet baby that vomit you gotta wash up a lot of puke on
00:45:37.940
some of those rides they get a lot of pukers we had one i don't even remember the name of the
00:45:41.480
official name of the ride but we called it the puke barrel yeah well that's what i'm saying dude
00:45:45.380
you guys were making shit yeah that was the name of it the puke barrel i was like okay i don't even
00:45:51.340
know the official name and if what what ride caused the most vomit you think the puke barrel really
00:45:56.600
probably it was uh it looked like one of those metal 55 gallon drums you know those metal like
00:46:01.880
garbage can barrels but it was huge okay yeah you know and so it was massive and say it was on its
00:46:07.920
side and you go in it had a sliding door and you go in and then there were two seats that people
00:46:13.920
could sit in circle seats and those spun like this while the floor rocked back and forth like
00:46:18.060
this and the outside barrel spun like this with strobe lights going on inside i mean who's not
00:46:24.300
gonna puke yeah it was pretty wild yeah it's good stuff so we actually owned one of those candy
00:46:31.760
on my mom and dad owned a couple of them actually would have been so they split up when i was like a
00:46:36.380
year old so they ended up i was too young to kind of help with the business so my mom sold most of
00:46:42.600
the rides by the time i was you know a teenager or so we still had some stuff kitty rides and stuff
00:46:48.160
but we had gotten rid of all she had gotten rid of all the major rides that she had had yeah bring
00:46:54.320
and now what do you do when something what is this what is this here oh that looks like the
00:47:01.880
we call them the thousand and one nights i'm not sure what this version's called but that's what it was
00:47:06.640
okay yeah it looks like the whole thing is shaking so people are going and jumping on the side to
00:47:13.780
yeah oh yeah a carnival ride in traverse city michigan suddenly malfunctioned what do you do
00:47:20.920
when this kind of thing happens what do y'all do shut it the f down but how do you i mean people
00:47:27.660
are trying to save this thing from falling over yeah they're all trying to get some weight on it
00:47:31.480
is that a realistic approach you think is that safe or would you tell the people i mean it could
00:47:36.260
be oh because that was one of the things about the carnival you always felt like nobody had your
00:47:46.180
back in a way yeah which was something exciting about it and deathly alarming like and you felt like if
00:47:54.040
you died they wouldn't tell your parents yeah it could i mean we probably buried some bodies out
00:48:00.580
back i mean in the haunted house probably some of those bodies in there probably kids that just never
00:48:05.440
made it out yeah but i'll be honest with you though the carnival rides are a lot safer than
00:48:11.920
probably a music parks amusement parks really yeah because they get inspected every week so you're
00:48:17.500
getting state inspectors every single week every time you set up they have to come in and like
00:48:21.460
and uh you know give it a go ahead so what's the worst accident you've ever seen out there
00:48:27.020
so that was i mean i didn't see the kid get hit by the skymaster but that was probably the worst
00:48:32.840
although at one fair that i was at at topsfield fair i forget the name of the ride but somebody did
00:48:39.900
come flying out of it but they didn't die or i can i wish i could remember the ride but they always
00:48:47.160
say those people didn't die but you never see those people anymore yeah that's true you know
00:48:53.120
or like they'll be like yeah they yeah janet didn't die and they're like well then why isn't yeah
00:48:57.860
where is she yeah oh she went to florida she retired yeah people yeah if she retired she's 11
00:49:03.440
yeah where did she so that's just the thing i think sometimes about that kind of stuff that seems
00:49:10.980
like a little bit tricky man where you're like i was saying they um like i did they uh they do
00:49:15.680
inspect them a lot more than like your your regular music parks i mean that are just set up
00:49:20.740
year round they only got like one or two inspections a year oh yeah and so but the carnival like they have
00:49:25.940
to get state inspected every week every time you set up in a new place so okay wow i didn't i did not
00:49:33.000
expect that yeah because it seems like they're not even you know where the shady part comes in
00:49:39.560
is where like say something breaks or something happens during the week and then it gets fixed
00:49:44.860
not up to par in between inspections in between inspections oh and you just got to have the ride
00:49:50.920
you got to have it going you got to make the money yeah and then so you have you have your main ride
00:49:57.020
guys so all the ride formants have to do a once inspection every day and they have to fill out a
00:50:02.300
and say they inspected their ride i mean but yeah and then you have the ride super who's in charge of
00:50:10.500
all those guys and is he yeah but it's like how lot how real how if they're locked in cool if they're
00:50:16.300
not then it's whatever yeah yeah i could be a ride yeah if i was a ride super dude you're like yeah okay
00:50:22.520
you just take the forms you're like yep everything's fine yeah oh you know yeah people ain't gonna be
00:50:27.160
everybody not gonna be living if i'm a ride super to be honest and no offense to anybody
00:50:34.300
okay so you got the rides i'm trying to think of the other rides there were uh there was some um
00:50:39.580
there was like you know what we used to do too on the remember the super slide
00:50:43.280
yeah super slide was pretty fun with that burlap sack yeah you know when it's really fun during the
00:50:48.880
rainstorm and you get a black trash bag really oh yeah you don't even touch that bottom hill
00:50:54.200
you know just launched off oh that's awesome you gotta open up the fence at the bottom of the
00:50:59.820
ride because i've seen people oh hit that fence so hard oh yeah go right under it hit it hard just
00:51:07.320
get scalped on the way oh yeah they got that fishnet face for the rest of their life oh yeah i've seen
00:51:12.400
oh yeah there's nothing like just yeah really after hours you know getting drunk going down sometimes
00:51:17.080
we would just wet it on our own we'd get a hose and soak the slide and grab a trash bag yeah that sounds
00:51:22.720
like fun dude would you guys have some fun like that like was there oh yeah i mean there was one
00:51:26.560
crazy party we were we were um we're all partying it was like the beginning of the year it was like
00:51:30.900
the second or third carnival so we were all like warmed up now we're like all right let's have this
00:51:35.280
is one because you'd have parties where everybody would party together like the ride guys everybody
00:51:40.360
food joints even some of the owners you know what i mean some of the parties once in a while
00:51:44.360
and so this was like a beginning of the year like let's get you know let's have a welcome home
00:51:49.940
party everybody's in and so we're partying all throughout the carnival like we're on the sea
00:51:53.840
dragon and you can unlock the sea dragon and get it swinging manually you just get a couple kids
00:51:58.080
on each side swinging it one way and you just really and you can get it going and so we were
00:52:02.160
partying yeah we were partying up on the sea dragon late one night and uh there was a new guy
00:52:07.040
that i guess the ride super didn't like he had just started oh yeah and uh he passed out drunk in
00:52:13.060
his car and he was driving like this brand new white escort or something like that you know nice and
00:52:17.300
white pretty nice yeah but it was small car cheap car but it was it was new and uh the ride super
00:52:22.560
really didn't like him and he was passed out drunk in his car right on the side of this on the sea
00:52:27.080
dragon and we're up in the top seat just sitting up there having a couple drinks putting them back
00:52:31.200
and what do they do they set them on fire all of us well not quite all of a sudden the ride super
00:52:34.700
goes over to his house trailer and he opens up his he gets a five gallon bucket yeah and he opens up
00:52:39.060
his shitter drain his tank and he fills up the five gallon bucket with all the shit water
00:52:43.200
and he goes over and he dumps it on the guy's car oh and nothing the guy doesn't wake up nothing so
00:52:49.440
he keeps doing it over and over again until he dumped his his whole tank onto this dude's car
00:52:54.300
and he just slept through the night like that all day and we're laughing hysterically about this but
00:52:59.540
it's outside of the car right it's outside of the car it's on his car but on the outside so it's just
00:53:03.720
covered now and yeah just everything and uh but that night i didn't see him but the next spot i remember
00:53:11.680
i'm walking by and he's outside and it's he's trying to scrub it all off and it's just got this
00:53:16.740
brown tint and you could see where it like swirled all around like he could not get that thing clean
00:53:21.620
for the life of him he didn't last another week he didn't no was there a lot of stuff like that
00:53:27.380
there's a lot of like uh um hazing and stuff oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah and what about um take me
00:53:36.600
into so i feel like that's kind of the rides i'm trying to think of any more of the rides that i
00:53:41.000
the zipper was just harrowing i know i would get on it and i'll be like i'm not getting on it this
00:53:47.540
year because last year i got hurt and i don't have any more money or whatever and i got electrocuted
00:53:53.380
and so electrocuted oh dude i got electrocuted because that was one of the big things is one time
00:53:58.660
i got off of i think it probably was the zipper i got off and i touched i've told this story before
00:54:04.740
i've touched the two like metal bars you're getting off of like the stair bars whatever
00:54:09.900
and it completed a circuit and i just bro got lit and i couldn't let go right and some guy working
00:54:16.560
the ride behind me um it was a black gentleman he called me he's like get moving and i i was like
00:54:24.920
and then he just fucking kicked me right in the back dude i think he even called me the n-word but i
00:54:32.580
think he kicked me in the back and thank god he did yeah because i was just like part of this i was
00:54:37.880
just completing the circuit i was just probably powering a fucking lantern or something down the
00:54:42.520
street yeah yeah whatever i was doing dude it was unhealthy for me yeah you know because i was
00:54:47.740
conducting electricity and um thank god but yeah i just remember be it was very
00:54:53.580
very it seemed like um there were some safety issues i would say yeah yeah it sounds like it
00:55:01.540
yeah we i've definitely run into a few live rides before yeah especially during oh has that happened
00:55:05.940
yeah what's happened to me okay yeah so that's a real thing yep because i know my whole life i was
00:55:12.140
like i know this happened man well how does that happen um because there's so much wiring going on in
00:55:18.780
those things like all the lights and everywhere and back then too you know now with leds they don't
00:55:23.680
take as much but back then you had those really hot lights and they took a lot more power and so you
00:55:27.800
got bigger currents running through and something could just get cut or pinched somewhere along the
00:55:32.480
line and next thing you know you're making that live damn god yeah that thing really caught me up to
00:55:39.720
speed boy i fucking aged probably eight months i went home my mother's like god you seem different
00:55:46.120
you know hey ma you already grew a mustache from it yeah i was like things are gonna change around
00:55:51.980
here yeah i'm wearing the pants now but i remember that dude we walk over and yeah the rides would
00:55:59.100
just be getting set up in the distance and we'd come in and they'd they'd have somebody standing
00:56:04.760
over there and for 50 cents you could get over there and get you a couple tickets and go get on
00:56:09.260
them yeah and no the other kids people didn't know because the fair wasn't open yeah but we knew this
00:56:14.640
could we live right there and so we'd all walk over there that's cool i don't we never did anything
00:56:18.840
like that it was pretty cool man what about so take me into some of the games we hope you're enjoying
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00:56:56.120
because you had the boost you had the game boost yeah we had game boost we own some uh my brother
00:57:00.640
still has i i think he still has one or two you know they're definitely not as profitable as they used
00:57:06.020
to be yeah um but yeah i used to have all kinds of games i mean a lot of them are illegal now you
00:57:12.580
know maybe i should throw in yeah maybe i should throw on some like shades or something if i want
00:57:16.320
to spill secrets like the magician telling the secrets of the about the games yeah if you want to put some
00:57:21.560
on no i'm just kidding they all know who i am now anyway oh yeah well i yeah because i know there
00:57:26.220
was videos that came out years ago about like exposing all the games or whatever really i didn't like that
00:57:31.200
shit i knew that you pretty much weren't gonna win no there's something that you are not gonna win
00:57:39.000
unless they want you to win ah if you if they got if they got enough money out of you and they got a
00:57:44.620
good tip going there's a big crowd if you're in a wheelchair or something probably if you're maybe
00:57:49.520
it all depends on how much money you spent yeah and then like if they got a nice crowd and they want
00:57:54.340
to keep that and a lot of like if the crowd is really like they've been there a while and they
00:57:59.560
really want to see that dude win and he spent enough money and you know you could get now you
00:58:03.480
can if that dude wins everybody's gonna stop playing yeah you know ah so the part of it is
00:58:08.520
some strategy yeah well there's a lot of strategy to it what was one of the games that was the
00:58:12.400
toughest game to win probably you think the toughest to win like legitimately well so there's some that
00:58:20.460
just can't be won okay so okay so take me like what is one of them so like the cover the red spot
00:58:26.640
you guys ever have that one cover the red so there would be yeah there'd be a big red circle
00:58:33.020
yeah and you get like little discs this yeah yeah could not be won legally oh there would be one
00:58:39.860
that could be won on that the guy would show you how to do it on because that one can be won okay
00:58:45.080
and he would always use that one and i've worked that game before so i don't know how it's done
00:58:49.160
and then you have all the other ones the circles are just slightly too big to be completely covered
00:58:56.060
oh so the base circle yep there it is ah cover the spot okay so you see how that one's covered all
00:59:03.660
down there with the five discs it's completely covered so sometimes those red circles are just
00:59:09.200
slightly too big where it's mathematically impossible to cover it all dude the saddest part i just remembered
00:59:17.460
this so my brother he was like the older brother you know and like he like was trying to win a game
00:59:22.540
and i knew we didn't have much money you know so like he kept trying to win and like i knew it started
00:59:28.800
to be a little bit thing like i gotta win this my brother's watching me you know and he fucking didn't
00:59:33.420
win and i could feel it just break his fucking heart oh man i have seen god so many hearts broken
00:59:39.300
really oh my god i've seen families broken up oh i mean they've spent their whole mortgage lost a car
00:59:45.740
like lost everything yeah he even traded that kid in like trying to win i swear to god
00:59:50.980
sometimes you'll see the kids still up there as a prize now you can win them
00:59:54.660
yeah you guys want you guys want this uh stuffed bunny with a cleft palate or you want ricky
01:00:06.500
and they're like nah nah we got a real life ginger over here we gotta feed ricky man we'll take that
01:00:12.780
we'll take that uh hoppy the cleft palate fucking easter hero over there it's if you get a gambler
01:00:19.480
playing you know somebody that gambles they know what's up no you they lose everything because they
01:00:24.500
want to win they want to win and then you tell them hey man if you win not only will you get the prize
01:00:30.260
but i'll give you your all your money back oh every dollar you spent i will give it back
01:00:39.700
and now a gambler is not going to say no and how hard is it have you ever had to run somebody up like
01:00:46.780
that i kind of have by the time those games are kind of i mean i ran the red spot and stuff but i
01:00:52.260
was a kid i was still a teenager then so i wasn't a real agent you know but were there some people they
01:00:57.400
were good at oh man they were so good like when i was a real little kid and before i was working i
01:01:02.520
would you know sit on the counters with some of these guys you know when yeah they're not busy
01:01:06.680
and i'd sit down and hang out but then all of a sudden a mark would walk by and they'd get them
01:01:09.740
and i would just see them run them up because like you pay your bills right yeah like you pay your bills
01:01:14.860
every month yeah yeah so just don't worry about paying me up front just keep playing i'll tell you
01:01:20.400
how much you owe at the end oh yeah what do you think is the most you ever seen somebody lose on a
01:01:25.440
carnival game i've seen somebody lose a car like legit had to give up their car no yeah who who's
01:01:32.760
gonna enforce it though well because they're a gamble they're like most most gamblers pay that
01:01:38.480
like if they have it they'll pay their debt so they'll go get they'll go get the title and sign
01:01:42.800
it over right there to keep playing really yeah i mean you ever been to a casino like some of these
01:01:50.580
guys some of these gamblers are like they lose everything amazed at somebody yeah i have friends
01:01:55.960
that are uh real successful and i'm amazed at some of these guys that just go gamble all the time i
01:02:02.420
don't i'm so thankful i don't get any uh like i like to play you know i'll play some games you know
01:02:10.120
i like to do yeah we play prize picks and stuff like that and but i don't i'm not the guy that's
01:02:17.160
betting betting the house yeah yeah no i'm so great man i'm thankful to god that i don't have that
01:02:22.780
i've seen i've seen people like eventually like they'll go home and they're like i just got hustled
01:02:29.160
and then they'll end up like going to the cops or something like that and coming down the next day
01:02:32.860
and you got to squash the beef and make everybody happy like i've seen that happen new hampshire man
01:02:38.640
loses life savings on carnival game let's look at it i probably saw that epsom new hampshire
01:02:43.520
from the salts i guess um henry gribom says he lost his life savings 2600 dollars damn
01:02:52.460
on a life savings carnival game and all he has to show for it is a stuffed banana with dreadlocks
01:02:57.920
wow you got the dreaded one though dude blm bro that's all i'm saying dude yeah at least you got
01:03:04.020
the dreaded banana dude wow yeah it's it was crazy those games are illegal now though up there
01:03:11.680
well it says you're expecting the kids to win a few things let the kids have a good time say grip
01:03:15.220
home i just didn't turn it just didn't turn out that way grip home says he attended a manchester
01:03:19.160
carnival run by new hampshire based fiesta shows you mentioned them that's us it is that's who we
01:03:24.360
worked for wow and wanted to win an xbox connect at a game called tubs of fun yeah i'll tell you
01:03:30.460
about that one where contestants toss balls into a tub ain't happening it isn't what is it so the
01:03:36.480
bushel basket that's what it is the tubs of fun so they take those remember those old apple bushel
01:03:40.320
baskets oh yes i remember they'd be up on the side yeah like at an angle kind of yeah at an angle
01:03:44.940
kind and you got to toss the softball in there yes yes there it is oh there's some guys getting it
01:03:51.560
right here yeah yeah so there's a there's a trick to it do you see how he's doing it you got to give
01:04:01.240
it a spin and it's got to hit right on the edge i see so it'll like it'll kind of like use its
01:04:06.620
momentum to stay in there and they're using plastic ones too they i don't know right go back to the
01:04:10.900
bushel baskets can you find the bushel baskets they might be just as hard the one we're talking
01:04:14.580
about it's the same game but the bush those were made of the wooden ones like the original apple
01:04:19.320
bushel baskets yeah so take me through it so what the problem they were at like an angle right it's
01:04:24.460
that same same same thing as that with the plastic ones except they were wooden um they just won't
01:04:30.280
stay in there the softball is so light and bouncy and the back of those baskets are just so bouncy as
01:04:35.420
well that they would just bounce out you can't get the ball to stay in there it's it's really i mean
01:04:41.920
if you know a trick and you like they were doing if you could get the right back spin on it
01:04:46.260
and hit it right at the edge you can get it to stay in there but how they get people so easily
01:04:51.340
is they'll the guy sitting in the in the booth can easily toss the ball in there from his angle
01:04:57.680
it'll easily go in there and stay in there and then you give the other ball to the guy and be like
01:05:01.620
look at how easy it is throw the ball in there and give him a free here's a free shot see how easy
01:05:05.860
it is and then they throw it in there because that other ball is already in the basket it'll dead in
01:05:09.900
that second ball and that second ball will stay in so now people like oh my god that was so easy
01:05:15.360
but now when you give them the balls they don't have that first ball in there and they won't get
01:05:20.200
that ball to stay in there wow and you're like no it's like this this you know what you're doing
01:05:25.640
wrong bud you're hitting it in the wrong place watch what i do watch what i do you take that ball
01:05:30.340
and you're like just like this throw it in there and it goes in and you're like here's this ball watch
01:05:34.560
try it now and they do it and they're like oh i did it you're right and then you give them both
01:05:38.980
balls again and then they can never do it again and you just keep it going keep the cycle going
01:05:42.680
dude i remember the weird there was always the weirdest energy when you were the kid and you
01:05:47.260
were up there at the thing you just once you'd engage in the conversation with the booth guy if
01:05:51.780
you're a kid you're like you start to feel like man i gotta play now i already started talking to this
01:05:57.540
guy you know i know only got a couple of bucks here what am i gonna do you know and then you would
01:06:04.120
play and then you would fucking miss the first one you'd be like i am such a fucking
01:06:08.580
loser yeah i am a loser and they know you're not going to win too and they're just trying to get
01:06:14.000
that two bucks out of you and get you out of the get you out of the hair god that was hard and i'll
01:06:19.800
tell you what if eric adams was there he would have found out that there wasn't an xbox in that box
01:06:25.020
yeah oh oh so you're saying that if they have the prizes some of the prizes aren't even in the boxes
01:06:32.220
no wow oh yeah because they know nobody can win it so why you're not even going to put a real
01:06:36.200
probably they just put playstation boxes and xboxes i mean damn dude in the craziest adams
01:06:41.920
will probably find the yayo that time in there but
01:06:44.000
what's in here and mitch is talking about the episode with um who are we with shane gillis
01:06:51.640
and we're like that yeah yeah that's just that was so funny dude yeah that was a crazy video i
01:06:56.740
can't believe they're doing the drug searches like that but yeah oh but sometimes we would win
01:07:01.420
something and it would be a felt elvis or a felt picture of a something oh i remember those felt
01:07:08.460
pictures remember it's like it was like neon and felt yeah some of it would be felt like not all of
01:07:13.300
it yeah if you had a black light or something it would look like you'd be able to see it oh and the
01:07:16.820
posters they had those felt posters that's what it was yeah yeah yeah um yeah i remember those
01:07:22.540
i forgot about those yeah the start art games like the the ones that you throw the dart at oh that
01:07:27.380
was fun with the balloons yeah the balloons are a hostile though too it is oh yeah because they
01:07:31.620
don't always have like because oh because you'd have a dot behind it or something you had to have
01:07:35.020
um they'd have different um circles under there and they'd say small medium large like what size
01:07:40.660
prize you win and you know they would never have an extra large up under there or if they did it
01:07:45.580
would be under like a really like barely blown up balloon so that dart would always bounce
01:07:49.300
god because i based how i felt about myself for the rest of the year on how well i did on these
01:07:57.200
games that was the that was the thing yeah even the start art game like if you didn't get that dart
01:08:03.620
right in the red star dart yeah that's what we called it the start art where it was like you had
01:08:07.840
to throw a dart get it in the red and it couldn't touch the border around it it would be a black border
01:08:12.300
around the red star and if it touched any part of the the dart was touching the black just a little
01:08:17.340
bit you didn't win oh and the thing was if you'd think it would be in there completely you know
01:08:22.020
you're on the ground you hit it and you're like oh did that go in and the person working the game
01:08:25.520
would go up and look and if it was all the way in but it was close he would just touch it a little
01:08:30.060
bit and push the dart so it would touch the black no oh yeah yeah i don't you just have to do it nice
01:08:36.380
and smooth so you just you know you just barely push the dart up a little bit so it'll start touching
01:08:40.500
the border and be like oh you're so close bud come on up and take a look you'll see it's touching the black
01:08:45.320
i don't even remember that one star dart i remember they had the water horse but that
01:08:50.280
was a competition against other people so somebody always won yeah i mean there are ones that are
01:08:54.580
slower than others yeah naturally like the games like you could hit them both at the same time
01:08:58.740
and one just rises a lot slower than the other one or blows up the other one i remember yeah once
01:09:04.000
sometimes it didn't even make any sense i remember one time it was like ring the fucking fish and they
01:09:07.520
had fish swimming and you just throw the fucking rings in there get a fish you didn't get shit you're
01:09:13.440
like how do you even know if you got it like i was like you lost you're like oh fuck dude i'm a
01:09:19.500
loser man 12 more months of winter it's like punctatum phil just seeing your fucking reality
01:09:25.000
each year when i went it was like god i forgot how much yeah i based my like who i was off of that man
01:09:32.960
and just like because i'd i would save my money each you know i was very particular about saving my money
01:09:38.460
so when we go down there i'd have a you know i'd plan ahead and i would get my little i would keep
01:09:44.720
my money in like one of those gym beam those purple gym beam bags yeah you remember the oh yeah with
01:09:49.640
the drawstring yeah oh yeah i'll keep my money yeah the crown royal bag sorry the crown royal bag
01:09:54.940
and i bring it down there and god dude this felt horrible ring toss that was one now that was fun i
01:10:02.600
will say this because you know why because you got a bunch of rings yeah and they can't lie to you
01:10:06.260
you're either getting it on the bodily or not like that's a legitimate game that those are still
01:10:09.980
around right that was a lot of fun i remember um those ones are a hustle oh yeah the weighted
01:10:15.940
yeah the weighted everybody knows that now but and this is we're looking at the weighted uh milk
01:10:20.800
bottles yep and the softballs yeah what was so hard about it just they're weighted they're not
01:10:26.360
going to knock over with the um softball because you'd fill them with you'd fill them with lead or
01:10:30.860
cement or whatever and the top one would be empty so if people said oh they're weighted you would
01:10:35.760
just grab the empty one and hand it to them and be like oh look at dude they're not weighted
01:10:38.760
oh wow that's pretty crazy the bushel basket that was another one that was a hustle what was that
01:10:46.780
i mean not the bushel the banker ball wait you remember the banker ball the it was like um there
01:10:52.600
was a wooden backdrop back uh-huh and there was like a laundry basket underneath and you had to like
01:10:57.940
throw the ball against the back and make it hit into the basket yes yep
01:11:01.140
yes i remember that so some of them were so confusing to me i didn't play them you would
01:11:08.180
just push that basket in so it would never do it so it would never do it so it'd never drop in
01:11:13.120
where did y'all keep the fish at night who was with all the fish we had a fish lady no way you
01:11:18.800
had a fish lady not the girl that ran the rides like i never worked a fish game or like we didn't
01:11:23.480
own one but i knew the girls that ran it and yeah they just had a trailer that was full of
01:11:26.900
five gallon drums full of fish and they'd bag them up wow because that was the craziest part
01:11:33.640
because you'd fucking get home and you'd have a fish you know yeah you're like look at this fish
01:11:37.340
yeah and your neighbor would be like we're gonna cook them bitches you know and you just have your
01:11:41.860
neighbor go cook six six of those goldfish or baby koi they called them goldfish get pretty big if you
01:11:47.740
let them if you just let them go yeah i've seen some really big ones my sister won a goldfish once and
01:11:52.560
they put it in their fish tank or whatever and it grew into like a big fish carp or whatever yeah
01:11:58.140
i didn't realize how big they got it it couldn't even turn around the tank they got for it was so
01:12:02.880
small the fish couldn't even fucking turn around it was just like it would just always be straight
01:12:07.100
ahead look at this dude right there crazy one of the world's biggest goldfish has been caught
01:12:13.180
weighing in at 67 pounds four ounces the enormous specimen was found in a fishery in france by british
01:12:22.000
angler andy hackett who reportedly spent over 25 minutes reeling the fish in can you imagine
01:12:28.240
reeling that in and being like what in the fuck what did i just catch i thought these were
01:12:36.760
two wins bro and if we're not this right here because to tell you if you don't think there's
01:12:45.080
stuff in the water that is turning your kids trans or multi-armed or whatever
01:12:51.780
then this is a fucking fair goldfish yeah this is a parking lot uh minnow half of them probably
01:13:01.840
spray painted gold yeah that was supposed to die right when you got home yep if you made it that far
01:13:07.900
yeah that's the etd on these things the second you cross your doorstep they're supposed to die
01:13:13.280
it's how most kids learn about death is from a fair goldfish but here we are modern day
01:13:21.040
and this mother 67 pounds and living in france unbelievable probably working at a creperie or
01:13:31.500
something chocolate it's just unfuck and people are like the water's safe the water ain't fucking
01:13:38.760
safe bro god i'm sorry to get crazy but this shit dude it's like how much proof do you need
01:13:45.720
it's in your face that the water's bad yeah i mean that is uh that thing could work in the freak show
01:13:53.940
yeah i'd pay 50 cents to go see that oh you staple another little cock to that thing i think
01:14:00.260
like a fucking it'll do 11 years in a freak bowl work over there and and nipsy's freak bowl or
01:14:07.760
whatever it's called when you're a dreaded banana son um alive alive alive but some of the gay yeah
01:14:16.160
i remember some of the people that worked like some of the one lady i remember for she we gave her 50
01:14:22.680
cents she we she was we were just scratching her back while she was smoking a joint or whatever oh nice
01:14:28.040
and we're and then she's like i'm all done and we're like what the fuck is that did you get the
01:14:32.000
roach we didn't get anything we didn't we might have got a little like contact yeah yeah that's
01:14:37.820
what she that's what you were paying for but yeah i remember we gave that lady like a couple of us
01:14:41.520
it was like three of us scratching her back at the same time we didn't even know her i was like dan
01:14:45.640
this bitch is wild but it's kind of cool yeah that sounds like she would work she'd she'd be good
01:14:50.960
in the dunk tank man those dunk tank clowns were something else man yeah what so yeah take me on some of
01:14:55.660
the other periphery characters that were part of the carnival yeah the dunk tank clown guy was he
01:15:01.200
was i mean you have to have a really special guy to be updated really like be able to like go at
01:15:07.300
people all day get them pissed off enough to like spend their life savings trying to knock you into a
01:15:12.900
pool of water like what kind of stuff is he saying he's just saying like i slept with your wife last
01:15:17.120
night like you know your brother's an n-word or whatever yeah you know and he would have to get
01:15:22.360
why sometimes he would have to have cops protect him when he closed like to walk him to his you
01:15:26.540
know get him off the lot because people wanted to kick his ass i mean i've seen people you know beat
01:15:31.460
him like not beat him up but go after him if they're what if he didn't have protection you know because
01:15:35.760
not all the time you know at the fairs you had cops around but you wouldn't always have cops at the
01:15:39.880
carnivals and stuff and he would really get people going like they're not even trying to dunk him
01:15:43.560
they're trying to throw the ball through the fence like they're smashing that fence with the ball
01:15:46.940
really oh yeah so that guy had to have some real cojones or just be not even mentally that great
01:15:53.580
or whatever yeah wow it was wild he would uh yeah they would he would get into some serious shit
01:15:59.940
yeah a lot of beefs you don't see him anymore what were they yeah so they were just like yeah
01:16:04.960
yeah i was with your sister's mother last night oh i was with your daughter last night you know what i
01:16:10.880
mean with your daughter and the guy's saying his daughter's 11 or whatever they don't care that's
01:16:14.880
what i'm saying these guys would get mad the dude's just yelling like i slept with your 11
01:16:19.960
year old daughter last night what are you gonna do about it yeah the dude's just like hey i'm a
01:16:25.900
pedophologist he thinks he's protected by fucking 40 gallons of water this dude's just like walking
01:16:29.840
by with his kid doesn't even know all of a sudden the guy's like what what did you say yeah god it's
01:16:35.060
just heartbroken dude oh it's a sick world man yeah who else was there they were like barkers i remember
01:16:42.460
like oh there was the guess your weight guy yeah i guess you were a real thing that was a real
01:16:47.240
thing yeah he would guess your weight or your birth date or um what else would he guess there
01:16:51.360
was something else how did they do it it was just a it was really just came down in numbers like they
01:16:57.760
couldn't really do it but it was you could tell like they just got good at it you could tell look
01:17:02.900
at somebody because there was that you had you had an average you know what i mean you could be off
01:17:06.520
by like 10 pounds or whatever it was you know five pounds either way or when they guess your
01:17:11.340
birthday they could be like i don't know if it had to be like the same month i know there was like a
01:17:17.100
window where it wasn't the exact date but i think it might have been if it was in that sign you know
01:17:21.500
what i mean oh yeah if they're sagittarius's i'll know dude exactly or a leo or something you could
01:17:25.740
tell one of my ex-girlfriends was a sagittarius and i'll spot them bitches anywhere now you know i'll spot
01:17:32.080
i'm 200 yards away you gotta saggy on the fucking coming over the ridge watch out um we had some
01:17:39.000
characters man i remember the guy that worked the uh the big old guy that worked the diner the
01:17:43.180
sausage stand when i was a kid i mean this is when smoking was still loud he'd have a big old cigar in
01:17:47.200
his mouth italian dude it's like what what do you fucking kids want huh fucking ashes are falling into
01:17:53.980
the pile of onions and peppers right there big old cigar just always hanging over his mouth while he's
01:17:58.160
working the grill those were the best onions too you were like you know get them riled up until you
01:18:03.260
get the ash in there you know what i mean you want that ash yeah a little free burnt wince gotta be
01:18:07.620
careful on the first day of the carnival though maybe sometimes if they brought like some sometimes
01:18:12.480
they'd bring the leftovers from the last carnival and try to sell it oh yeah it's like that's a good
01:18:17.980
point right yeah so because the carnival ends on a sunday yep and then it starts back on a thursday
01:18:23.380
um sometimes a wednesday sometimes we do overnighters where you would tear down sunday night
01:18:29.100
set up sunday night and then open monday yeah it's like tearing out so they'd close you a little early
01:18:35.120
like five or six o'clock on a sunday night then you got to tear down drive to the next location start
01:18:39.900
setting up and then open up that night so what other periphery people do y'all use do you guys hire
01:18:45.780
other locals you said there were like 40 milers like guys that would come on yes you're i mean they're
01:18:50.300
always looking for help i mean it was kind of set up back then you had like the main carnival owner
01:18:54.920
that owned like like say fiesta shows he owned all the rides mostly and um sometimes some of the games
01:19:01.480
and food but you would have other families that owned like you know they had a whole grip of you
01:19:07.140
know games or a whole bunch of food stands and you would and with the games there was a lot of
01:19:12.380
families that owned a bunch of different games and they would join up with the carnival and you would
01:19:16.760
tour with that carnival for the year okay so it was a lot of like smaller family businesses would
01:19:21.480
join up under the larger umbrella of the carnival yeah oh i see so there was a lot of that and so
01:19:27.920
a lot of that's gone by the wayside now like they start buying up other carnival businesses then they
01:19:33.980
start buying their own games and food and hiring people to run them for them instead of like you
01:19:38.460
know having people come in rent and everything yep so it's some larger conglomerates now you think
01:19:43.520
yeah wow yeah i know like fiesta definitely bought a bunch out and that's how they got so big in new
01:19:49.320
england and um yeah started like we own some stuff my family still does my brother still owns stuff out
01:19:57.060
out there and does it but then he also manages stuff for the owner of fiesta shows okay so that gets him
01:20:03.720
like good locations you know what i mean and like prime spots and stuff was there a lot of camaraderie
01:20:08.960
amongst you guys was there a lot of party and what was that like like what was some of the lifestyle
01:20:12.840
like yeah so we had some camaraderie like definitely like the ride guys like they would all have their
01:20:18.200
own crews especially like some of the bigger rides had like four five six guys as a crew if they were
01:20:24.580
like there would be different crews you'd have the music fest and like the sea dragon crew they
01:20:28.460
called themselves the dickhead crew and you'd have these different crews and so they had a really
01:20:33.140
tight-knit and then like the ride guys on a whole mostly did the food guys too would and then you
01:20:39.780
know the different families obviously with with the people that worked for that family were pretty
01:20:43.560
tight-knit and then you know yeah at night you know whoever whoever you clicked with you know what
01:20:49.160
i mean and i clicked with everybody i would party with anybody from like the lowest ride guy to like
01:20:53.940
the the owners oh you know were you a pretty hard partier or not yeah man real hard yeah pretty hard
01:21:00.420
yeah by the time i hit 21 i was already shitting and puking blood for drinking so much no way oh
01:21:04.940
yeah jesus yeah it was pretty wild well did that run in your family alcoholism or drinking that much
01:21:11.060
um because that's kind of a lot of drinking yeah it's all i really like i didn't grow my dad like my
01:21:17.800
dad my mom and dad got divorced when i was a year old and so you know i had one foot in the carnival
01:21:23.420
and another one in the city i grew up in like a pretty inner city city like you know in new york
01:21:29.860
no outside of boston called lawrence lawrence massachusetts yeah lawrence massachusetts wow
01:21:34.180
so it was like a lot of gang activity and stuff there oh yeah that's fun so and like the carnival
01:21:40.660
was like my escape in the summer yeah which isn't much of it so it's like the carnival of the hood
01:21:44.820
like which one do you want yeah and uh i am and um so yeah i drank a lot partied hard and would the
01:21:52.960
parties get pretty crazy with shit get a little bit yeah yeah it would be pretty crazy especially when
01:21:57.720
you go to these bigger towns because like you go to some of these towns you know and the girls are
01:22:00.780
like especially like a lot lizards you know the ones that like they love the kind of the car when
01:22:06.240
the carnival comes to town because they ain't got nobody else like especially up in the sticks
01:22:09.420
of maine or something like that really so you're saying there was a lot of like uh like hookers
01:22:14.600
almost that would come and service the carnival workers yeah not not hookers just like straight
01:22:19.120
up hoes i guess oh girls that didn't want money yeah girls that just wanted a party yep
01:22:23.720
oh wow you'd get car fulls of them sometimes really oh yeah oh wow i never thought of that
01:22:29.800
like a fair you know one of some of the big fairs man they would show up after you're already closed
01:22:34.260
down and everything and car fulls of chicks would show up looking to party no yeah why did they know
01:22:38.980
you guys had drugs or something yeah they just were like oh the carnival's in town like let's go meet
01:22:43.620
the carnies you know you know so the only thing that happens every year in their town wow that's
01:22:49.820
freaking ripping bro then the next night you got the car full of the dudes showing up looking
01:22:53.660
and be like yo who fucked my old lady last night oh yeah you got fights breaking out all the time
01:22:58.520
yeah how well how wild would some of those parties get pretty wild yeah yeah some of the fights were
01:23:04.620
pretty crazy i mean it was no different than being in the city sometimes like it was so the dude dudes
01:23:09.640
would roll up and they'd want to settle the score yeah right and they couldn't because there's just so
01:23:14.840
many carnies like really yeah you know you can't show up with a car full of people or even two cars i
01:23:21.140
mean we have hundreds of people would you guys get in fights a lot were there a lot of fights out
01:23:25.100
there yeah there were i didn't fight a lot i wasn't much of a fighter i didn't like to fight but i've
01:23:28.880
seen some crazy ones like yeah i was i got arrested for one of them uh-uh yeah we'll do that so we were
01:23:33.900
at just a situation where we were in connecticut and all the carnivals got together you know and so
01:23:39.920
you got the first unit like oh the third unit's down there like we got to go show them who's boss you
01:23:45.160
know what i mean and they go down and i'm and i didn't even really know anybody from the third
01:23:48.820
unit at that point and i was friends with a lot of the kids from the first unit and uh i was on some
01:23:54.820
uh i was on some i think i was on some dancing condoms maybe that night some paper some acid oh
01:24:01.040
some lsd yeah praise god baby yeah and so there was a few of us on it and so they came up and they
01:24:06.680
were like oh we just got into a big fight down there like down in tent city and blah blah blah and
01:24:10.860
i was like and a couple of kids are like what no way like let's go down there again and blah blah
01:24:15.700
let's go and so i'm tripping and i'm like all right let's see where this goes and i just went
01:24:20.440
to go see the action yeah and so i'm down there and like it just all hell breaks loose like people
01:24:26.860
are getting ripped out of their tents like swords are coming flying out like it was wild like i'm
01:24:31.680
seeing like little droplets of blood fly by my face like laughing at me and stuff and i'm standing in
01:24:36.360
the middle like what is going on like this is like there was just it's like 30 people yeah it was
01:24:41.520
crazy and like security tried to stop it and they got beat up and so now they're all standing up
01:24:46.640
against the fence like ripped shirts and like holding on for dear life they're like we don't
01:24:51.220
want no part of that and the girls are screaming at him like stop this help go stop the fight go
01:24:55.920
stop the fight and they're like the cops are on their way don't worry about it like we are not
01:24:59.480
we don't want nothing more to do with it so steady showed up and uh i i left and the cops were out
01:25:07.620
there looking around or whatever and there were some people and i i didn't really think much of
01:25:11.080
it because i didn't i wasn't involved i was there but i wasn't involved i wasn't fighting yeah and so
01:25:15.940
i was just like i'm not too worried about it i'm gonna go walk around and see what's up yeah as soon
01:25:20.480
as i went out there cops like get on your knees he comes running up to me with a can of me like trying
01:25:24.760
to get a bj i guess i don't know he he comes running at me like oh with mace with mace oh my
01:25:30.680
jesus christ i'm like what is going on hey cops now too and so and i'm tripping so i'm like oh god
01:25:36.740
dude i'm like yeah whatever you want bro one time i and whatever they take you to jail they maced you
01:25:45.400
yeah no they didn't mace me but they did take me to jail they did yeah and you showed up in jail
01:25:49.740
were you still tripping oh yeah yeah i was tripping pretty hard i remember i was like standing in the
01:25:53.500
hallway and a few of my friends got arrested and a bunch of the kids from the other side that got
01:25:57.560
beat up got arrested oh yeah and uh i'm in the hallway and it was like i remember there being
01:26:02.500
like this textured wall and i couldn't stare at it i was just like it was going crazy at me and so i
01:26:08.680
turn away and the cops just like put your fucking face against the wall he's spitting on me and like
01:26:14.380
yeah like at a guar concert yeah i was like wow okay worse than guar oh and so face the wall and
01:26:21.220
they brought me into the cell and whatever we i bond out the next day i had a hitchhike back to
01:26:25.960
the carnival no oh yeah as soon as i get back to the car and they put me in a cell with one of the
01:26:30.920
kids that got beat up and so my friends are in another cell i'm in the cell with it and i'm still
01:26:34.900
tripping and i'm just like yelling fresh fish and like i'm just kind of being out of my mind and
01:26:39.400
you're yelling that at yourself no the cops oh the cops huh i think well maybe it was the kid that
01:26:45.860
got beat up because yeah i think people yell that at you if you're the fresh one yeah i know
01:26:49.760
but you were like i'm gonna beat him to the punch i'm gonna yell it yeah oh i like that and uh they
01:26:55.500
decided to keep me in there for a while because i think they everybody got bonded out they let
01:26:59.520
everybody leave and i'm still in there and then they went to lunch the cops and i'm like what is
01:27:05.760
going on i'm like they even they were gone for an hour hour and a half or so and then they come back
01:27:11.540
and i finally had calmed down wow and they and i was already bonded like i but they kept me in the
01:27:17.480
cell for an extra couple hours they finally let me out hitchhiked back to the carnival because of the
01:27:23.060
whole scene it was on the news i got fired that day and had to pack up my house trailer and hit the
01:27:29.260
road damn that's wow man it was pretty crazy so uh but i got back home and my mom was doing an event
01:27:38.640
that weekend so i just jumped on with one of her events and just went right back to work
01:27:43.320
were your parents were they always in in the were they working at carnivals as well yeah so my dad
01:27:50.720
was at was he at the one that that happened he might have been there he might have been at another
01:27:54.860
one was he doing at the carnival so my dad was uh he managed food and games okay so you're just
01:28:00.920
running around doing that yeah he was an old man by then by the time i was around he was 50 when he
01:28:05.560
had me oh okay so by the time i was like working 15 16 he was already almost pushing 70 you know
01:28:11.940
yeah and he looked like an old italian mafia like dude like he kept like this with his cane like
01:28:16.980
what are you guys doing over here get to work hitting his cane hitting his cane at you like come on
01:28:21.900
come on like colonel parker he was a good dude miss your dad um what was the uh what's some of the
01:28:31.040
wildest like was there some pretty good like sex activity going on out there because everybody
01:28:35.480
always thinks i think there's this vibe you think about like carnies like the ride shut down
01:28:40.560
and then the party starts yeah yeah like i think that's what the the energy you feel like happens
01:28:46.920
you know yeah like i said you get those car full of girls show up oh yeah one of those girls that
01:28:51.160
showed up the head hoe tattoo i was telling you about that was one of the girls that she wasn't even
01:28:54.920
an employee she was one of the girls that showed up looking to party it said bust a nut on me no this
01:28:59.040
one said head hoe head hoe on it yeah wow yeah just the advertising that they have that's wild to
01:29:07.700
me usually you don't know like a girl's tattoo would be like a secret you know yeah like any like you
01:29:13.760
know like love is forever or whatever you're like well i'm gonna have to decipher this you know but if
01:29:20.360
somebody's just like bust a nut on me or whatever it's like well it's just like not as much guesswork i
01:29:26.100
guess but yeah and it'd be crazy i mean they the girls like to party just as much as the guys so
01:29:32.920
you know there would be a lot of crazy stuff going down you know um looking to party looking to get
01:29:37.440
down and yeah i've seen some stuff i mean there's you know a friend yeah i've seen some stuff a friend
01:29:45.600
of mine like this chick really wanted to get down with a couple friends of mine so he breaks into
01:29:50.340
somebody's house trailer that we had never i don't know whose trailer it was he climbs through the
01:29:53.940
window goldie locking huh next thing i know he's kicking the door open and the door comes flying
01:29:58.760
open we're all standing outside and we're like well the hell what's going on he's like we got a spot
01:30:03.260
now let's go and he brings her in there and right on somebody's bed i don't know whose bed because they
01:30:08.200
had the couch pulled out so the door is wide open he's going to town right there wow yeah just making
01:30:12.920
love huh i don't know when you call it love but there was something going on yeah making almost
01:30:18.960
love my god yeah um so it was um it was interesting to tell you about another crazy game that we had
01:30:28.040
was uh it was called the crazy bike you ever heard of that one crazy bike yeah it was a bicycle where
01:30:33.180
if you turn left the wheel went right and if you turn the handlebars right the wheel went left oh my gosh
01:30:38.420
no yeah and so i owned one of those and i couldn't ride it i couldn't but i forgot my one of my best
01:30:45.340
friends learned how to ride it so we put it out there and if you could ride it 10 feet we would
01:30:49.400
give you 50 bucks yeah that thing was a hustle it was it was pretty tough to run i mean but if you
01:30:54.480
could learn how to ride it and the kid that worked for me was really good he'd be able to sit on the
01:30:59.480
handlebars backwards and ride it like he got really good at it it's a unicycle no it was a bicycle
01:31:04.460
regular bicycle two-wheel bike a crazy bike and we called it a crazy bike and so the if you turn
01:31:09.580
it to the left the wheel went to the right yep wow if you turn to the right the wheel went left so
01:31:13.500
hard to try to figure out how to ride that really especially if you never had oh yeah see god i
01:31:18.160
couldn't even imagine this right it's like because it's like dyslexia yeah yeah it's like dyslexia made
01:31:24.500
up piece of transportation but he could yeah he my friend could ride it all around the carnival like that
01:31:28.760
wow oh that's a vibe yeah and so we would do it if you drove it 10 feet we would mark it on the
01:31:37.520
ground if you drove it 10 feet we'd give you 50 bucks and now was there a lot of ladies to me did
01:31:42.140
you guys call regular people civilians what did y'all call them marks marks yeah god and we got everybody
01:31:48.500
that walked through it was like we how much can we gotta we gotta get it out of it yeah we gotta get
01:31:52.280
it get that mark and if you got one you'd call it out like you know we got you got a fresh one you got
01:31:56.580
a mark here and a lot of people would wear these pins called i love robin marks but it would be
01:32:01.120
spelt out like robin r-o-b-i-n and then marks underneath it so it looked like somebody's name
01:32:06.640
who was robin marks i was i was robin marks i got it but nobody was really actually robin marks no
01:32:14.560
bring up a picture for robin marks let's just find someone there's got to be somebody
01:32:17.920
there we go robin marks oh wow there is one and so yeah if you get marks there she is right there oh
01:32:25.700
sweetie i could fall in love with her husband yeah and like for the games you would either you'd
01:32:31.000
either be an agent or a clerk that's what we call the people that work the games like they're joinies
01:32:36.060
but an agent is somebody that can rob a mark and a clerk is somebody that's just going to collect
01:32:40.460
his money and not really hustle them so like what give me an example of how those would be at the
01:32:44.680
game like a clerk is somebody that doesn't really doesn't really know how to hustle somebody okay you
01:32:49.420
know what i mean he would just be there like oh you want to play he'll collect your money and you can
01:32:53.160
play the game but he's not going to sit there and try to hustle you out of more money okay where
01:32:56.940
an agent is going to try to take you for everything you got and who were the ages were there was it
01:33:02.060
like usually older people was it younger could it be anybody it was anybody anybody that was good at
01:33:07.120
hustling really like there was all all ages whites was it native america like who type was it any
01:33:12.640
it was whites whites yeah it's kind of a white sport carnivaling yeah yeah has it has it changed
01:33:20.820
like or i remember it being like that it was like kind of maybe white and black guys at work
01:33:24.640
or white and black people that worked there i guess yeah that's kind of all we had in our area
01:33:28.780
yeah up there and up north we didn't really have there's not a lot of blacks up north yeah i mean
01:33:34.460
one of my best friends artist he was an older guy and he worked out there my whole life he was best
01:33:38.520
friends with my brother because all my siblings were much older than me and so yeah we had some out
01:33:43.800
there and some you know some uh i guess it's some puerto ricans and stuff like but not really i mean
01:33:49.520
now they have a lot of um mexicans and south africans oh really yeah that's pretty much who's
01:33:56.080
running the rides now why what's changed like how have things changed yeah since the past and now
01:34:01.040
well it was hard finding i think really good ride help so they i don't know why it was mexico and
01:34:08.920
south africa i don't know why those two countries were picked but apparently it sold to them that
01:34:14.860
you're going to go on a work and vacation you get to see the united states and work and make money while
01:34:19.460
you're at it which is all bullshit you just you're doing the carnival and you're at that carnival it
01:34:25.320
doesn't look any different wherever you go you just it's the same lot so you're not you're not
01:34:29.940
seeing anything different would you ever get some free time i did yeah because you were a kid i was a
01:34:35.700
kid and like your parents were they didn't make money they weren't made of anything i mean we were
01:34:40.820
poor yeah wow so it's not a big money maker no and my parents were divorced so like so they were
01:34:46.520
splitting the money no i don't know or like when you have two homesteads going it's it's like yeah
01:34:52.040
but i didn't see my dad much growing up like really like yeah until i started joining the carnival
01:34:58.740
i mean i would once in a while like i would see him on like holidays and stuff and once in a while i
01:35:03.720
would go stay at his house i guess i remember but yeah what it was i didn't see him that much
01:35:08.640
until i almost had to be at the carnival to see him yeah yeah oh man it's kind of a bummer
01:35:13.540
it's kind of interesting it is yeah i mean bummer my dad was a hard ass too so i guess i'm glad
01:35:19.600
that i didn't see this much from what my brother said oh yeah he was great when i was i mean he was
01:35:23.960
an old man so he was just like a whatever people yeah start to lose their steam yeah their edge
01:35:29.660
but so it was definitely different and my mom you know trying to hold the carnival together
01:35:35.060
herself when all the kids were already grown and out of the house and not helping anymore
01:35:39.440
and i was still like a really young kid so yeah we didn't and we lived we didn't have much money
01:35:45.340
like i was getting school lunches and shit like that oh yeah same man yeah school lunches is always
01:35:50.900
so weird because you had to go get the ticket each day in the morning did you have to do that
01:35:54.820
no i forgot how they did it i think it was just like when you signed up and i don't remember
01:36:00.780
we had to go get the free ticket each day so it'd be like kind of embarrassing i felt like it was
01:36:06.260
embarrassing i remember that because i think it was by name or something like that or a separate line
01:36:11.500
or yeah separate line i remember you'd have to go to get the free ticket from the lady and had a y on
01:36:16.260
it yeah and if you paid ticket had an x on it yeah and i remember yeah we had to get the free ticket i
01:36:22.300
forgot about that man yeah i'm not saying like i'm ashamed of anything but i remember feeling at
01:36:28.240
the time like at the time yeah you were trying to just like pretend you weren't getting that one
01:36:33.800
yeah i don't know why they had me on this list that's strange yeah you're there yeah really what
01:36:39.660
happens every day sure god that wants to make some poor whoever's making these lists is just confused
01:36:48.740
huh um a lot of times people look at the carnival as a sad that like i think it got that rap over
01:36:55.000
the years in a way that it just like was a negative what are some positives about it because i also loved
01:37:00.940
like i loved go there was something like you almost felt like you were in the big city in a way because
01:37:07.160
there was these lights going on and there was you know people would come that you didn't normally get
01:37:11.700
to see because there were kids that went to different schools and that if they didn't go to your school
01:37:15.340
then maybe you'd see them there um those are things that i liked about it there were like
01:37:20.880
game you know like yeah you got to gamble or play games you didn't get to do that there was no other
01:37:26.640
world that you got to do that in as a kid yeah no you definitely felt a sense of like when you had a
01:37:32.500
good weekend or a good day and stuff and you felt like everything went off smooth especially if you're
01:37:37.120
doing food or like games that aren't a ripoff of rides like you know a lot of the ride guys would
01:37:42.220
feel pride and having like a really nice ride with all the lights working and stuff like that
01:37:46.060
making sure every bulb is fixed because then you got some rides where the ride suit the ride guys
01:37:50.060
didn't really give a fuck like all the lights are busted you got one blinking light going and like
01:37:54.800
yeah that's it no music and yeah yeah guys you know like i said he's like one of those guys that just
01:38:01.360
got out of prison and yeah so he's done he doesn't really care about the ride that much but when
01:38:07.080
but for the families that are out there and like when you have a good weekend or like a really nice
01:38:12.860
fair and you feel good about like you know putting on a good show for everybody and like having a good
01:38:17.320
you know i had pride in having a really like the cleanest stands and putting out quality food you
01:38:22.600
know you mean like a family's running like if a family owned like we do the games or we do the right
01:38:27.300
like we do the food and we do the right games so there would be some organization to that yeah there
01:38:31.920
would be multiple families there would be like you know sometimes 10 12 different families out there
01:38:36.800
yeah all owning i mean sometimes you would have one guy that just owned his one game
01:38:41.120
and he would travel everywhere with you get with you just running his one game that's what he owned
01:38:46.300
was there another world of carning where it was like somebody owned all of it and they would just
01:38:52.760
hire all the people yeah it's becoming that now oh it is yeah it's definitely is what is it like
01:38:59.880
about that what is it that makes people go to a carnival you think or go to a fair like what is it
01:39:04.980
fun they want to go on the rides yeah they want to have some fun they want to escape we need more
01:39:12.020
escapism these days yeah it was fun i definitely remember it was fun yeah and that was the thing
01:39:17.280
like it was crazy and stuff and we have some crazy stories but we always wanted to make sure like
01:39:21.200
we had we wanted to provide a good time for the people too i mean granted the rides definitely you
01:39:26.140
know are i mean the games are a hustle and some agents did take it too far you know i agree like those
01:39:32.180
people that were getting robbed of their life savings like you're taking it too far yeah but
01:39:36.000
for the most part like you do want the people to have a good time and come back the next day and
01:39:41.000
bring more people and any animals ever get loose out there when you got oh man well one time we let
01:39:46.280
a chicken go we we stole a chicken or a rooster and we put it up in the doghouse of the music fest
01:39:50.820
so when the next day they came to work there was this wild rooster up in the up in the doghouse
01:39:55.500
and the doghouse is the control room where you run the ride oh nice and the music fest is the one
01:40:01.080
where like they go around it's like they're you're in a car that kind of swings that it goes around
01:40:05.460
like this big like uh not a track but it's kind of because it's on an arm so they kind of the cars
01:40:10.580
swing and they swing around and they're playing like crazy music or whatever yeah i remember that
01:40:14.840
one and then it's like are you guys ready to go backwards yeah let's go backwards this time there
01:40:19.260
it is music fest yeah dude god those rides were such a big thing yeah we put a we put a chicken
01:40:27.880
in the doghouse one time for the right guys so when they showed up the next day yeah yeah because
01:40:33.380
i remember one time a lady just brought a box of cats and fucking just dumped that bitch out at the
01:40:38.680
fair that's a good place to get rid of them yeah i think that was like some of the vibe it was just
01:40:43.480
like people that had extra animals or whatever and they're like we're gonna bring them up here
01:40:47.700
because we knew people be up here and if they want a cat they got it or whatever but yeah there
01:40:54.180
was always some weird shit like that going on any love stories over the years you see where carnivores
01:40:58.880
met each other and yeah i met i'm i mean back in the day that's the only place i really met
01:41:04.260
i mean my friend april who i was been with i was with for you know almost 10 years or something
01:41:10.020
we were 16 17 when we hooked up and met at a carnival yeah she worked for somebody and i was working
01:41:15.940
out there and she worked for a friend of mine another family let me dart that balloon huh
01:41:20.340
she was actually pregnant when we hooked up already too and uh really yeah wow that seems
01:41:25.260
illegal that's crazy in the eyes of god but i don't know we're still friends that i still i mean
01:41:30.740
raekwon her son is works for me now yeah really yeah her son works for me like really yeah so wow
01:41:37.840
that's love man yeah well that's still best friends you know really yeah we're not together
01:41:41.740
obviously but yeah we're best friends still and damn so yeah we had some love can happen out there
01:41:48.860
i think my nephew met his wife out there he's met he just got married a year or two ago he met her out
01:41:53.140
there yeah yeah but she was south african i think she came over from uh that whole when they brought
01:41:59.760
all because they keep bringing more south africans over every year why just for that work and vacation
01:42:04.240
they sell them people think that they're going to come to america and make a lot of money and travel
01:42:08.540
and see the country but are they bummed out when they get here or no they're like most of them are
01:42:11.940
they are but they're already here they're already here some of them pay to go back home like you've
01:42:16.180
got to like but some of them love it and some of them end up rising up and getting positions of power
01:42:21.360
too yeah so it goes both ways some of them hated it some of them didn't mind it and some of them loved
01:42:27.320
it oh yeah mexicans i don't know because they all spoke mexican i couldn't figure it out if they liked
01:42:32.820
it or not yeah i think mexican people adjust pretty well yeah they just adjust well to most things you
01:42:40.520
know i would like to be mexican probably be fun oh yeah i think i'll be i don't know if i'd be good
01:42:47.220
at it but i would be i know i would try my best but i don't know i don't know i don't know
01:42:51.720
well my girlfriend's half mexican really yeah yeah does she seem does that part of her seem good
01:42:57.560
i love it yeah there you go yeah yeah i would just we'll see what happens but i anyway that's
01:43:02.120
like a bigger conversation but what about like gypsies did y'all ever run across those types of
01:43:06.740
oh yeah we had some gypsies you know what i'm talking about yeah man we had some that did like
01:43:10.640
the uh psychic readings and stuff like that yeah yeah and they traveled there's a lot of mushes out
01:43:15.440
yeah they didn't we didn't see them much really they were gypsies so they were travelers they were
01:43:20.260
travelers like because normally like if you wanted to do the big fairs you would have to like as a like
01:43:25.960
if you were a gypsy that just wanted to come in and do it yeah like in us family or different
01:43:29.540
families that were out there they would make you do the spring season with them and you had to do
01:43:33.660
all the shit spots if you wanted to get the good spots you know what i mean oh yeah it's just like
01:43:37.620
comedy yeah so but i don't know how the gypsies got away with it maybe just because like what do
01:43:43.060
you mean they got away with it they would do what they wouldn't have to do the shit spots
01:43:45.980
sometimes you would just see a gypsy like a psychic reader or somebody that did like the palm reading or
01:43:50.840
or the cards and you would only see them at like some of some of the big fairs and they wouldn't
01:43:56.100
have to do like all the shit spots oh they didn't have to play the smaller ones in this and the ones
01:44:00.100
you didn't love yeah they were funny man and you'd walk by like because i never went into them but she
01:44:04.940
would always like come on in i don't know and they're so perceptive because they would try to
01:44:11.160
get you to think that they were being psychic or they knew something but they're just watching
01:44:15.740
what's going on out in the carnival and they're like oh there's gonna be a blonde in your life
01:44:20.400
i see it and it's like yeah because you saw me last night hanging out with her right like but
01:44:25.980
they're uh yeah the gypsies are yeah real interesting my brother's friend donnie is a
01:44:31.600
gypsy i think he won't i mean he might not admit it but i think he is but i don't know if he is
01:44:35.900
but he is he is but i wouldn't mind being a i don't know much about it i don't i just wish i knew
01:44:43.540
more about it i like kind of simple you know i like kind of like jewelry or whatever and
01:44:49.180
sometimes i don't like a lot i mean i they're so secretive they're like gypsies are unique
01:44:55.080
they're unique yeah they're like yeah you don't know what's going on no you don't have a navy seals
01:45:00.660
but of like complete bullshit you don't know what they're thinking what they do like if they're
01:45:04.160
being if they're being serious or not if like they're telling you yeah you don't know they just
01:45:08.780
say stuff and they have their own language oh they do yeah it's pretty easy because the uh
01:45:13.820
i can't even speak it right really is that pig latin carny oh that's carny yeah carny is
01:45:20.060
tough because you have oh there's a carny language yes really yeah like what do you what do you tell
01:45:25.720
you about this oh it's like a pig latin yeah you put e-e-z before every vowel oh my so it gets
01:45:33.560
tough e-e-z yeah oh my g-e-z it would be gizad oh my gizad so o would be eezo mezad gizad oh my god
01:45:45.440
eezo mezad gizad wow breeze bizad you put eezad above eez before every vowel so god would be gizad
01:45:58.740
beezad bizad eezad eezad what was the what did the lady say beezad eezad oh yeah naysad bizad
01:46:11.300
eezad eezad eezad bizad busting that oh man that's a crazy so how do you shut the carnival down
01:46:21.400
and move it to the next place what's that like what's the breakdown like in the setup
01:46:24.680
when you close at night you wait for the big gondola wheel to close down that's how you know
01:46:28.900
you're closed what is the big gondola wheel the big ferris wheel the giant ferris wheel you wait
01:46:32.700
for the lights to go off and that means you close that's when you know it's time to close and you
01:46:36.060
close down and uh depending on what you ran um games were really easy to tear down you know the
01:46:44.080
hardest thing was putting on the hitch after they took your game away because the hitches come off
01:46:47.880
the pull the trailer that you pull the trailer by you got to take those off so you can put all the
01:46:52.100
games bottom up to each other make the midway wait hold on when you say make the midway what
01:46:56.420
do you mean and you put them one into the truck when you put you know when you go on to the midway
01:47:00.400
the midway is like where all the games and the food are they're all able to butt up against each
01:47:04.760
other flat because you take the hitch off with that that goes on to the that you hook the truck up to
01:47:09.320
you back the truck up to the hitch oh yeah and so that comes off and that's probably the hardest part
01:47:13.880
of like tearing down a game okay it's taking that on and how do y'all travel it all out there how does it
01:47:18.240
all move out so it's up to each family they usually have trucks that pull that pull their stuff and
01:47:25.000
somebody that works for them usually will be a driver or two they might have a couple drivers
01:47:28.640
or you might hire a trucking company to come in and pull your stuff um the carnival that like the
01:47:35.500
carnival itself they own big trucks that pull their stuff and they also hire people out too depending on
01:47:40.680
how fast you got to get the stuff over the road how far it is if you can make multiple trips or not
01:47:45.260
because sometimes if you're only going you know 50 60 miles you can make multiple trips but if you're
01:47:50.020
going a couple hundred miles you might not want to make as many trips you know yeah you don't have
01:47:53.760
the time yeah so you'll hire a trucking company to come in and take it and i used to tear down rides
01:47:58.760
and stuff too for extra money so i would do like sometimes up to five rides a night i'd tear down
01:48:04.340
and set up i would tear down five rides go set up five rides and you know i'd make good extra money
01:48:09.160
doing that yeah it was cash yeah so what are they paying extra 50 bucks to help turn around or something
01:48:13.840
no so you do four or five a night maybe a couple hundred bucks that's great
01:48:18.080
you know yeah and so like the stand i have now like some of the even back then at the carnival
01:48:24.920
we had a wooden frame like i ran towards the end i ran all i was in charge of the food stands for my
01:48:30.360
brother and my father and um we had the wood frame sausage stands that had the counters that came along
01:48:37.440
the side that you could sit at and sit at the counters and like watch them cook and stuff like that i
01:48:42.220
don't know if you had them down here or not but that so that's what i have now that's what i use
01:48:46.600
out at the festivals too okay and that's a lot of work because everything has to come out of the truck
01:48:51.040
you know the grills the fry it laters the fridges like everything comes out you set it up how would
01:48:55.200
they move the big rides how do they get those to the next town or whatever yeah big big truck you
01:49:00.640
tear down and most of them they fold down pretty small like a lot of them do they fold onto a semi or
01:49:06.420
just onto a trailer onto a semi trailer on a semi trailer yeah it's got wheels under it
01:49:10.680
right some of them are ground we call the other ones that aren't on a trailer ground mounts
01:49:14.460
okay so they'll have a trailer for it and but everything has to come off the trailer and set
01:49:18.800
up on the ground okay but then some are on the trailer itself and the trailer just unfolds like a
01:49:24.300
you know like a transformer how hard is it to break down a whole carnival does it take a whole day or
01:49:28.860
they get it done in a matter of it depends i mean you can move you can get it done fairly fast
01:49:33.340
you know sometimes you can be have everything done in like a good six hours or so wow really
01:49:41.460
and do they travel at night usually or what does it happen yeah yeah because you usually close sunday
01:49:46.760
nights and so you're done depending on how late you close sometimes you'll close early um some sundays
01:49:54.500
though they do the uh the bracelets where you buy a bracelet you could ride all the rides all day at
01:49:58.580
night and so when they do that and if you're making money you stay open later because you don't want to
01:50:02.620
you don't want to close on people is what we call it oh yeah if there's people still there yeah
01:50:06.540
what was one other game we used to play where you would like put the slide the money and it would
01:50:11.320
you pay and get these thing of coins and you put the coins in and it would push called the splash
01:50:16.300
down was one of the ones we called it yeah it would move the coins forward and sometimes it would push
01:50:20.300
a little like a an actual quarter would be on top of them it would push a quarter off for a dollar
01:50:24.780
we use quarters in ours oh you do yeah there was sometimes depending on the state sometimes you
01:50:30.380
use coins sometimes you can use quarters in Maine you can use quarters yeah and so but those are a
01:50:35.600
hustle too are they yeah because there's a couple different ways they hustled it sometimes there
01:50:40.120
would be uh something under the quarters of the coins there's like this triangle right at the front
01:50:45.360
of the lip so when they're pushing they push sideways and if you want to see on the sides there's the
01:50:50.080
splash downs on the sides did you notice before that there's an out of bounds so the coins can push
01:50:55.520
into the out of bounds so you would put a lot of weight in the middle so instead of pushing forward
01:51:03.420
it would push to the side yeah because they could fall off to the side yeah and if they fell off in
01:51:07.220
the middle you got you got it right but if they fall to the sides the house gets it yeah that was it
01:51:12.040
right there and so the more weight you put in the front the more it's going to push to the sides
01:51:16.800
damn sometimes people would glue that shit down no oh yeah oh god you know what it taught you though
01:51:26.620
it taught you about loss man it taught you that life is gonna fucking you're probably gonna lose
01:51:33.400
yeah you know and you're probably gonna knock somebody up yeah it just taught me that everything
01:51:39.220
is a fucking hustle man yeah everything in life whether it's your hvac guy whether it's your teacher
01:51:45.680
at high school yeah whether it's your second fucking wiener yeah it's a fucking hustle life's
01:51:52.040
a hustle dude because yeah life's a hustle man um that was another thing speaking of his wiener that
01:51:58.800
was the way he made money you asking how like i knew he used it he used to make these pamphlets and
01:52:02.720
he'd sell those things to everybody because he was tired of answering all those questions if his
01:52:06.400
penis worked or not how he really like it like his like uh hygiene and stuff like that the great
01:52:12.200
lentini you mean yeah the great lentini so i'd love to get a hold of one of those wow that'd be
01:52:17.100
fascinating if you had that pamphlet bring up that bring that up one more time i want to look at him
01:52:20.680
as we close out here my dad had three nipples did he really yeah wow i had an extra nipple right
01:52:26.400
down here hmm that's almost that's like a third lay it's kind of like a third it's like
01:52:32.300
it seems like it's the same genetics you know yeah i was i was kind of wondering that if it was
01:52:37.620
because of the genes i think frank lentini for as long as i can remember uh sideshow attractions
01:52:41.920
let's look at two more of them before we go mirin dajo the invulnerable man mirin dajo was born in
01:52:47.620
rotterdam in the netherlands in 1912 mirin was famous for piercing his body with sharp objects
01:52:51.900
and suffering no pain or even bleeding as a result he also had boiling water hurled at him and survived
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being shot in the head multiple times mirin was not affiliated with any one sideshow act or circus
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but the idea of being a human pin cushion was one that was popular in that industry wow so he would put
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pins right through himself he was the real article wow that's pretty crazy i think i remember hearing
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about him really when i was when i was researching my uncle that i remember seeing in the elastic man
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too there was a guy that maybe that was him that could like stretch his skin really crazy mirin dajo
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maybe it was him while he would perform he would also preach and say that his abilities were the
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result of god showing those he performed for that there was something better out there
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while he preached he would also condemn the idea of materialism huh
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so he kind of had a message with what he was doing interesting interesting man um
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mitch man nice to meet a carny bro nice to meet a guy that's uh that's been through it
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and able to come here and share a little bit of what the world and universe is like
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yes it's been quite a ride man it's definitely been interesting and i want to change it for the world
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it's taught me a lot and uh it got me yeah it got me i mean it's where it's where i am today it got me
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here to meet you yeah man it got me here to meet you and i'm i'm the job i have now like selling food
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out there is uh they treat me like a rock star out there and i'm not gonna lie like they
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they really do and i have to give a shout out to all those all those all my nieces and nephews
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out there in the world that really like support me and take care of me and out there like they really
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love uncle mitch's munchies home of the turtle dick sandwich really yeah and it's real meat
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yeah turtle dick sandwich there's only two places in the country that could sell it oh wow
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yeah it's in danger it's got to be endangered or whatever yeah so we do it we do it you know
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now we go get we get the turtle we snip it and send it back off in the wild you serious no oh but
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we do sell a turtle dick sandwich but it's not real but it's not turtle dick okay but that's what it
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says on the menu it says turtle dick sandwich and then it says if you have to ask it's not for you
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oh i see so we fuck well that's just one of the things it's like you just can't even get real
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turtle dick anymore but you should see all the turtle dicks we have now people make turtle dick like
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we have all these turtle dicks a dancing turtle dick all this crazy shit out there the games
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continue man i love it thanks miss so much for your time man um yeah i appreciate you coming
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dude and spending some time with us and uh i'm gonna see you on the ninth yeah yeah it's actually
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what i do in the winter i work for my buddy's company north beast up there with ashley and
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frankly at umass amherst oh yes saturday night or saturday night yeah i think a friday night
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saturday night yeah yeah i'm gonna be working it that's great yeah i'll see you soon
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there yeah it's crazy um mitch thank you so much man nice to meet you bro nice to meet you
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i'm sorry for the sweaty all good i'm nervous still now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel
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i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this
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peace of peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones but it's gonna tell you