E508 Joey Diaz
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2 hours and 8 minutes
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196.86485
Summary
Comedian Joey Cam Diaz joins Jemele to discuss his new book, Tremendous, and his new show with Lee Syatt called The Check-in. He also talks about his new music project, The Church of What's Happening Now, and how he got into comedy.
Transcript
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Coming to you live from Austin today, today's guest is a comedian.
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Probably one of the most unique comedians of all time.
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He has a new book out called Tremendous, which you can check out on Amazon.
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He was the host of the famed podcast, legendary podcast, The Church of What's Happening Now.
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He has his own podcast now with Lee Syatt called The Check-In.
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I'm grateful to catch up today with one of my heroes, Mr. Joey Coco Diaz.
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Like, Jelly Roll, every time he wins an award, he gets up there and he's like, I just want to thank right now there's somebody who's stuck under a bridge.
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There's somebody out there who's got a size 11 foot and a size 8 tennis shoe.
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And I just want to say you can fucking live your dreams, man.
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Dude, every time they call his name for any, every time Jelly gets an award, man, he just, he's so full of feelings, bro.
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He gets up there and he's just like, I want to tell you that I was a, I was a maitre d' at a macaroni grill.
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Like, sometimes it's just fucking like, bro, if they even like at a fat, like, I feel like even at Chipotle, if they just call his name to come get his order, he goes up there, he picks it up.
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He's like, I want to let every illegal alien in this motherfucker know in 40 days.
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And with only 90 singing lessons, you can win a fucking American Music Award.
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I realized, I didn't realize how much I missed seeing you until I got out of the car, out of the Uber at the mothership.
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First person I asked for when I got there, I'm like, where's fucking Theo?
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It's been, it's fucking crazy, man, what happens to life sometimes.
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The first fucking year was a struggle because I was lost.
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I was like, you know, what I was trying to do was, honestly, was just figure out what happened the last 30 years.
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Because after the pandemic, when the pandemic hit, we were all gung-ho.
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But, like, by May of the pandemic, I was like, what the fuck happened?
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You know, movies, talking to this guy, talking to that guy.
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The store at the end, before the pandemic, it was something that you'll never, ever see again.
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I still remember I would do spots and then go to the kitchen after my spot and just sit for a minute and look out into the bar area and stuff.
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And it would be, like, celebrities, MMA people, the Clippers.
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Every time you left the store on Tuesdays or Thursdays, you got in your car and you had to fucking drive 30 minutes just to be compressed.
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Dr. Dre was hanging out at night before the fucking thing.
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It was just a scene that was, you know, hard to believe.
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Kennison, Dice, those guys had their thing and we had our thing.
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I didn't realize it either until I went back, like, over the, I've gone back over the past two years and it's like, it's not even, it's not even the same thing anymore.
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It was like a, it was like lightning striking when everybody was there, dude.
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When, dude, the lineup sometimes, like on a Tuesday night.
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I would clip a lineup, I would take a picture of it or something and go, this is where you were with these guys.
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I want to see somebody try to take something away from me.
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Well, 2009, I wasn't there, but in 99, I was there.
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And I remember looking at those lineups and they weren't good, but you had fucking animals, like three of them there on the lineups.
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It wasn't like nine motherfuckers coming at you.
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It was a cavalcade every Tuesday and Thursday and everybody got along.
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Whitney, you, Burt, Joe, Segura, fucking Tripoli, Eddie Bravo, Owen Smith.
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Bro, they had MMA fighters that weren't even comedians fucking doing 20 minutes down there.
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Eddie Bravo was doing like 40 fucking minutes, bro.
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And people walked in there and it's like they got high.
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As soon as people walked in, it's like walking into the mothership.
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And this is, you know, I didn't do it for one summer.
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Just to look at that lineup and be like, it doesn't even feel like you're really the
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Oh, does it have a, is it like a black movie or not?
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Like I, this is way before I got into comedy, way before I got into comedy.
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You know, I like movies and there was one particular guy that the guy was a musician
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and he was struggling and he was like a Bruce Springsteen type guy.
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And then he came to him and he fucking shut out the light because he was the devil.
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No, that's why you're getting confused with the Africans and stuff.
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The guy during the movie, after he became a star, he would go, what the fuck?
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After he knew the devil took his soul, he would go to a restaurant and see the girl he
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Your mother told you to stay away from people like me and you want to take a picture of
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And I was, I had committed to coming down and seeing what life was like with the fucking
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and the sticks, you know, and started going to softball games and basketball games with
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And were you playing or you were just coaching or what?
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I used to go to my father-in-law's house in Nashville.
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That motherfucker's always watching girls softball.
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And I would look at him and go, I'm not even going to say nothing to my wife, but this
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Listen, man, I, I, for me to get into comedy, I lost a family.
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Like this was part of the whole, like, what happened?
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Like I left Boulder when she was five and now she's 30 fucking four.
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Is it, are there times where it just hits you and it just hurts sometimes?
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It really took me part of the addiction and all that shit was that.
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And then I had this, then God gave me a second chance and they threw another girl at me.
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So I said, let me sink in, you know, and fucking be a dad.
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Just get, I got a second chance to do this the right way this time.
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Did you, and that was a real thought in your head.
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You know, I've gotten, Theo, how many second chances have I fucking gotten?
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So some second chances you got to jump on and go, you know what?
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My daughter collects Social Security for three of those years.
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So when my mother died, I didn't get Social Security.
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Because they said she didn't work enough quarters.
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So I had no money coming in when I was a kid, you know, for all those years.
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I got a letter about six months ago about retiring and all this shit with benefit.
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I'm not in the mood to go on planes every weekend.
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I'll forget sometimes, Joey, how long I did this shit for.
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And people are like, what are you talking about, man?
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But part of my brain is just like, I don't know what time when I wasn't going to the airport.
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Or wasn't getting in the car for a fucking haul.
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Once I get in the Uber and I got an edible in me and I'm headed to fucking LAX, look out, motherfuckers.
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I would wake up in the middle of the night going, I can't believe I booked this trip to this place.
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Fuck, I should have taken that week off and I shouldn't have booked this.
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I can't believe I got to go to this town this week.
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Yeah, like, fuck, he's tickle town or something.
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Dude, I did a fucking weekend in Puerto Rico one time.
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I was like, I never should have when nine people fucking showed up to a couple gay dudes over there.
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I think it was like a sex laundering or whatever, but I didn't do anything.
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But I went and, you know, I tried to do my best comedy, but just fucking unreal, bro.
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Now, we've been doing this for a long time and you, uh.
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And it's like, I just went back to Jersey and I was like, to top it off, I haven't lived in Jersey in 40 years.
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I got a raccoon that will not leave me the fuck alone.
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He looks at me at night like, motherfucker, you got me again.
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I put a piece of nicotine gum in that motherfucker.
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That motherfucker was running up and down fucking my street with nicotine in him.
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I live around the corner from Jimmy Florentine.
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I got to learn how to fucking navigate this shit.
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When we were kids, not only did he live in town, J.J. Braddock,
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Dude, you saw James Day Braddock when you were a kid.
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We would go to Hudson County Park, and one day somebody said,
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He would just give you like 10 bucks to shovel in front of his house
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He was fucking, he'll fight you with one fucking hand, those guys.
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I've probably watched that movie maybe 12 times, Cinderella Man.
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The funny thing was, I got in trouble for that movie.
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And all of a sudden, right before the movie starts, a fucking Cameron Crowe sits next to me.
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Did you see the jacket he made for Braddock when he was shooting that movie?
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And I'm like, oh, what the fuck is Gladiator doing next to me?
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Cameron Crowe, so that's the guy that made Gladiator?
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And as the movie ended, I couldn't take it anymore.
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The producers for The Longest Yard are sitting in front of me.
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And I go, yo, that's the fucking movie of the year right there.
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And he looked at me, and the producers looked at me.
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But I'm telling them this is the fucking movie of the year.
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And then, because my friends told me, when he was shooting the movie, they would see him
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He was doing different delis around fucking towns.
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And that's one of the reasons I've, like, this, I mean, I'm, you know, Dustin is fighting
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And so part of me is, like, I'm, like, tying it in my head.
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When he told me that, I was, like, dude, it's like James J. Braddock, bro.
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Well, maybe before the show, I'll take you to J.J. Braddock Park.
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Over there, they got good fucking food over there.
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They got a fucking place called Tapas right down the block from there.
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Like, you leave there going, I take Leo all the time.
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When he comes down, I take him to different places.
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He's been doing it, I think, almost five years now.
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Yeah, he opens up Rogan, a couple, not Rogan, Josh Wolfe.
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Yeah, that's when I saw him, Josh Wolfe, and Jacob Wolfe the other day at a clothing store.
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But then, yeah, me and Lee went up to the mothership one night.
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I think it might have been the first time I came on, on you guys' podcast.
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And, and in the beginning, there was something in the headphones.
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It was like, Lee, I'm hearing like a little, like a sound in the headphones.
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I think he was like looking on his phone trying to fix it.
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The whole board is in front of him or whatever.
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So he's over there and he's like, and I, I hear this sound in the headphones again.
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And it's like, this time it was him making like a wheezy.
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He had like some HVAC issues going on or something, that motherfucker.
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Like if you hit a popcorn bag, that's been fucking good.
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Those, those eight years of that podcast with Lee, that was rough.
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Like I didn't know how rough it was till I stopped doing it.
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Like, what do you mean keeping up every week by having a party every week?
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Oh, y'all were Neil Armstrong and that other guy who fights people.
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We were doing 2,000 milligrams, mushrooms, Vicodins, whatever people dropped in that office fucking.
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Are you guys fucking put that dude in a blender?
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There was a couple people that wanted a blender, including myself.
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I was mixed goods for fucking a year after that.
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When I moved to Jersey, I moved to August, right?
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And we stayed in the corporate housing till my house was ready.
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No, the house wasn't, we couldn't move in till September 2nd.
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Those two weeks were like, I was just driving my wife crazy.
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I was eating Xanax to fucking help me go to sleep.
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Because I used to make Michael Jackson tea at night.
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Like, I'd make, like, edible tea and put 2,000 milligrams in there.
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Put some Sesame Street on and start jerking off.
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God, I can't believe you even said that to yourself.
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Like, it was like, the first month in Jersey was a fucking, like, I wasn't high enough.
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So I went to make another batch of tea, and I passed up.
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And when I got up, like, two hours later, the fucking steam thing, the tea, it ran out of water.
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It just fucking collapsed into a little metal thing.
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And then I had, like, fucking, I fell asleep at a restaurant.
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I mean, listen, I was going to the weed store every other day.
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To top it off, I was drinking eight to ten espressos a day, Cuban coffees.
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And did you know what you wanted to do at that point?
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Or were you thinking, like, I don't know what I want to do?
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Because I remember there was a point right when the pandemic happened, right?
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After, like, 30, 40 days and not being able to do comedy.
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But then I'm like, I haven't taken a break in my whole life.
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So there was a time where I was like, I don't even know what I'm, you know, what's going on.
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And then, yeah, for a little bit, I didn't know.
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Yeah, during the pandemic, that's what saved me, was we kept podcasting.
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I mean, listen, the podcast started at 7, and we would get there at 6, talk shit, me and Lee, start doing edibles.
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And we'd do another hour of chit-chat, bongs, edibles, and then a two-hour podcast.
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And then after the podcast ended, we'd hang out for another hour.
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How the fuck can a podcast be, you know, you're there seven hours for a two-hour fucking podcast?
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Two nights a week, and it was constant, you know?
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The night you did the mushrooms, I left out of there.
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I felt like a damn taquito when I left out of there, brother.
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You know, the fucking weed scene was growing with us.
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Edible companies were giving me fucking edibles, then Comedy Chaos.
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Give me the five people that probably, when they showed up at the church, they definitely,
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You could see their eyes, and I'm like, you know.
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From spring to fall, a damn solstice right in front of you.
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That made me feel really bad, you know, because she's the fucking salt of the earth.
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There was a lot of shit that people didn't see.
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Like, one of the best episodes we did was Stephen Bauer the first time.
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The camera would face him, and every once in a while, he'd go off camera and take a liquor
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He would take them out of his sock first and drink them, and then put them upside down
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And he would take another bottle out and drink it.
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We counted like nine fucking bottles, plus the beer he was drinking.
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He would come on there and bring bags of pills.
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I'm not talking about like a prescription bottle.
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And then when you take these, like, this is the way he carried the bag.
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When you took one of these, you did one of these.
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And then if this don't do it, this don't do it.
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When you're just eating pills, and you know what the fuck they are.
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And I remember I did his podcast once on a Sunday.
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And when I got there, they had bags of fucking pills at the studio.
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I was high from 1 o'clock in the afternoon to fucking the next day.
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But yeah, one time this gay, I don't want to say the dude was gay.
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But he gave me a couple somas to drive him somewhere.
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But he gave me a couple somas to drive him somewhere.
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Remember Don Flamenco from Mike Tyson's Punch Out?
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Well, this guy was the first homosexual that everybody knew in our area.
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And then, so he would get the one with the rose in his mouth.
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So he fucking goes, Dio, bro, I'll give you a couple somas.
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He went into the service station to get a prepaid phone call or something because he had some domestic issues.
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And I fucking, it only been about 12 minutes of taking them bitches.
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Bro, he fucking takes my body and moves me over to the passenger seat the cops came.
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But who gives their drive a fucking two somas, you know?
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When I think of the times that I drove fucked up, Joey.
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When I used to get, I would put both of my feet on the pedals, right?
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Because I was too nervous to let one of my feet make all the decisions, right?
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So I was like, I ain't trusting this one of my feet.
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I'm going to have both feet down there in case something pops off, right?
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But even then, it's like playing a, you know, it's a little bit of driver's ed kind of vibes.
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And I would be like in a crosswalk and I would be high.
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And somebody would be walking through and I'd be like, do not fucking hit the gas, bro.
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Just hoping my feet didn't do their own shit and start a new adventure for themselves, you know?
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It just got me so, just being so fucked up that you didn't know if you were going to be able to rely on yourself, you know?
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Listen, I could smoke a joint and drive better than most people.
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Because I know I could talk to a cop, but if I'm drinking, I can't talk to him.
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I'm not going to fucking try to tell him I have one drink.
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That's why I won't even have one drink when I go out.
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The fear of a cop pulling me over and asking me, were you drinking?
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So before I go through all that shit, you know, and we didn't have Ubers.
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People don't understand what that was like, not having an Uber.
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Say if you wanted to leave a place, you had to fucking walk off.
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Walk or fucking run or fucking go through the weeds or some shit.
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You know, my thing was, I'm still very grateful that in all those years, nothing happened bad on the road.
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And, bro, I was in situations where, you know, a lot of shit could have happened drug-wise.
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One time in Beaumont, like when I think of nights that I could have died, it's Beaumont.
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I blew my whole check in a hotel in Houston fucking coming down, hiding from people.
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You know, Houston was fucking, you came to Houston to lose your mind.
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When I was like 24, there was an old guy that hung out at one of the bars.
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And he would just drink and then throw punches in the air.
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And one day I asked the bartender, what's up with this fucking guy?
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Jumped out of a building and landed in a garbage dumpster.
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He would get a check from the government on the first.
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And he'd be in there fucking arguing with the bartender.
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Dog, I locked him in the bathroom at 2.30 in the afternoon.
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Because in Jersey, the bathroom's locked from the outside.
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That's the noise he made when I opened the door.
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Then towards the end, I would go, Johnny, you ever do coke?
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And that would put his emburism, whatever craziness he had,
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And I still remember giving him a line of coke like a two in the morning,
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And then being in the car at 5, going to the city to get coke,
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and seeing him walking over the George Washington Bridge,
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And he just fucking, he just watched the basketball game.
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He kind of like, he was just like an adult, right?
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But he had this son named Rocky was his son, right?
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And so Rocky was like, I don't know if something was wrong with him,
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but something was pretty much wrong with him, right?
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Like, he just wasn't, you couldn't really rely on him.
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Like, if you told him something, it didn't matter because he didn't really know, like,
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So you wouldn't share, like, a lot of information with him.
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So one time we're all outside and Mr. Denny goes, Rocky, show him that cock, right?
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And everybody was like, damn, Rocky's got that cock on him, bro.
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And then after that, it would always, like, any time that Mr. Denny was around,
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he would be like, Rocky, show him that cock, huh?
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Yeah, yeah, he was definitely, but he was like, you know, he was healthy enough.
00:40:03.940
Like, he could enjoy Christmas and shit, you know?
00:40:06.200
It wasn't like he was like, you know, like, you got to keep him in the back or whatever.
00:40:10.480
He was definitely like, you know, he was a cool guy.
00:40:15.560
Like, it wasn't like he was like, he just wasn't real bright and his mouth was always wet, you know?
00:40:20.860
But the dad would be like, Rocky, show him that cock.
00:40:25.920
Because most of those, like, mentally challenged, like, retards, they got big dicks.
00:40:33.880
They'll re-calk your living room, dude, them boys.
00:40:35.920
I saw a fucking, I was up at a, in Salem, Oregon one time.
00:40:42.040
And it was a, whatever, Special Olympian Convention at the hotel.
00:40:50.160
And I was working with a feature act who had huge tits with cleavage.
00:40:59.240
And he started making, he started making noises.
00:41:09.780
And there was two fucking big black guys, like, University of Oregon football players
00:41:18.600
He was just going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:23.400
I was like, this fucking, because they're strong, too.
00:41:29.780
They'll hold you down and fuck you to death with that big fucking special Olympian dick.
00:41:38.160
Yeah, you can't let them pet an animal for too long.
00:41:46.340
What was that thing in the news I just saw that they found?
00:41:52.520
Well, now I'm starting to think that more people will have conditions, right?
00:41:57.780
Because they're having, they just found like plastics.
00:42:02.780
Microplastics have been found in human testicles.
00:42:07.820
I mean, Joey, this is the kind of stuff, brother.
00:42:09.840
You're lucky you have a healthy, two healthy daughters.
00:42:14.280
You know, this is the kind of stuff, man, that's happening now.
00:42:17.880
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00:42:23.460
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00:42:32.260
when a study from researchers at the University of New Mexico examined 47 canine and 23 human testes.
00:42:38.800
Nuts or body nuts taken from neutering operations and condivers, respectively.
00:42:44.120
All of those testicles had microplastics inside of them.
00:42:48.380
So it's just like, what's going to, what, like, you know, what is that causing, bro?
00:42:54.240
If you got, you know, what kind of effects can happen?
00:42:58.360
Does it say they've already been found in our bloodstream and in other human organs,
00:43:03.720
I just, you start to wonder what happens when that gets into your brain.
00:43:09.240
Does that make more if a kid's got plastic in his head or whatever?
00:43:13.580
Listen, bro, there's so many things going on right now.
00:43:22.780
The pandemic opened up, you know, with the fucking shots and the mental health.
00:43:27.280
It just opened up a variety of fucking, of everything.
00:43:33.740
I lost weight and all of a sudden I had this bump.
00:43:39.660
Who the fuck knows what they're putting in food anymore?
00:43:43.360
You know, you don't know what you're really eating.
00:43:57.360
And, you know, try to make a doctor's appointment now.
00:44:00.840
It's, you know, try to get a hard, try to make a hard appointment.
00:44:05.160
They'll tell you, like if you call today, they'll go, yeah, fucking July 8th.
00:44:09.640
Because that fucking, the fucking needle fucked everybody's heart up, you know.
00:44:22.140
Has it always been like that or do you think it's happening more than ever?
00:44:25.980
Do you feel like it's always been like that in life?
00:44:27.920
I think it's always been like that, but we have the internet now and 20,000 media outlets.
00:44:39.040
Listen, this metal, this fucking heart, the disease, I think the biggest thing I'm looking at is I've never seen mental health like this.
00:44:50.600
I grew up with people and I talk to them now and they're not the same fucking person.
00:44:56.760
I know the pandemic or whatever, the 30 years of comedy, you know, getting hit in the head.
00:45:02.240
But right now, man, you have, did you see like the last 10 years to rise and everybody's a politician now?
00:45:11.480
Anywhere you go, people want to talk to you about politics.
00:45:14.100
I've never seen like, men, don't even want to talk about pussy no more.
00:45:21.320
And that pandemic fucked us up because what were you doing?
00:45:24.760
Listen to music or watching TV, waiting for the next fucking handjob.
00:45:28.820
After the pandemic, I never watched world news ever again.
00:45:38.100
I don't watch anymore because they're just scaring white people.
00:45:48.080
And I fucking tried my best to decipher what's getting thrown at you all day.
00:45:53.420
But the mental health, I think right now, and this is what it's got to be.
00:45:58.660
It's the fucking, you know, everybody's a celebrity now.
00:46:01.960
We're living in a world where everybody's a fucking celebrity now.
00:46:05.040
You go to a fucking movie theater now, they got poster boards for you to take pictures of.
00:46:12.740
I got at restaurants by my house on Thursday nights.
00:46:18.080
Lamborghinis, Ferraris, to go to a fucking restaurant.
00:46:22.260
The other half, we're fighting for our fucking lives.
00:46:28.280
Every day, you put the news on in the afternoon or whatever.
00:46:37.800
And if you're going to, you get sucked in by it.
00:46:41.940
We're getting thrown so much information at us anymore.
00:46:47.380
Fucking, somewhere along the line, you got to crack.
00:47:15.980
I think there's still a Howard Johnson's by me on Route 3.
00:47:21.780
My mom, when I was like five, we would go, she would drop us off there to meet my grandparents
00:47:29.580
And we didn't know our, like, and they would have, oh, they used to have, and we'd have
00:47:38.140
They had the bathroom that had the little, you ever go with, like, you ever go to a bathroom,
00:47:42.500
but it has a little room before you get in the bathroom.
00:47:44.560
It's like, you open the door, and then you're just in like a little bitty room, and then
00:47:49.680
It's like, the room's like three feet by three feet.
00:48:02.500
Oh, I remember, for $11, you could stay at the place, right?
00:48:12.060
Shoney's had an inn, and we would go, bro, and they also had this, like, premier buffet
00:48:20.160
They had, like, this kind of roped-off area of the buffet, and down there, they had fucking
00:48:24.260
salmon or whatever, you know, damn, you know, special pickles, salmon, honeydew.
00:48:31.720
Like, I never, shit, you'd never seen fucking gay watermelon, you know what I'm saying?
00:48:35.380
They had all the special shit down there, like black pudding or whatever.
00:48:43.500
They had, like, this special area of the buffet, but it was, like, roped off unless you got the
00:48:55.840
When you were a kid, all that shit's nice until you got old, and you're like, why am I eating
00:49:21.040
There's, like, ten of those fucking joints that you're eating in.
00:49:25.440
What's the place that they have the chocolate fountain?
00:49:44.140
We used to do comedy in Shakey's Pizza in Seattle.
00:50:04.580
You just want to go over to them and go, listen, here's a good mortician.
00:50:08.520
So when they lay out your body, they can take that salmon out.
00:50:17.140
I mean, I think, well, people are still doing them, but it's definitely more of a risque type of thing.
00:50:23.000
It's kind of, like, the only fans of, like, the dinner community, I feel like.
00:50:26.320
Like, if you see a buffet, it's-it almost feels like it's prohibition or something.
00:50:36.480
When you go to those places and you look around and you're like-
00:50:39.100
Like, I went to-I went to fucking-where did I go?
00:50:52.160
But I can't go to Paducah because they take me to this restaurant and they put cheddar cheese on everything.
00:51:02.380
I mean, whatever you order, they put a handful of that communist cheddar cheese.
00:51:07.320
It's worse than the one the government sends you.
00:51:10.360
And I'm eating the one night with my wife because my wife brought it home to me the one night.
00:51:15.540
She's like, we're going to go over here and eat.
00:51:17.260
You could stay there and I'll just bring you a thing.
00:51:23.240
The next night I went, I'm like, yeah, that play, I'm excited.
00:51:26.780
And we went there and I'm looking at these people and everybody's ankles were swollen.
00:51:41.760
And what this bitch do is she put like a blue tattoo on it to throw the color off of the diabetic foot.
00:51:50.500
And she's sitting there eating beer, drinking beer.
00:51:53.460
If you're eating beer, I've seen a woman over there eating beer with a spoon.
00:52:00.320
When I see a diabetic foot at a restaurant, I got to go.
00:52:05.980
When I looked around this restaurant, Paducah, everybody's ankles were swollen.
00:52:16.720
You got to look around and see who's in the joint.
00:52:24.720
It's like people that are almost just like cattle that don't want to.
00:52:28.940
Yeah, that can't even breathe that good or read.
00:52:31.700
You'll see people like on like on Oxygen, you know, sneaking in a fucking.
00:52:50.860
Yeah, there's just a lot of bad food out there.
00:52:54.840
You have to take care of yourself because the government or whatever, whatever we thought,
00:52:58.680
the FDA, that shit's all been compromised, bro.
00:53:02.320
You show up with an envelope and they'll approve anything.
00:53:07.120
Bro, you could have damn menthol bread pudding, bro.
00:53:15.680
Like who would buy, you know, and it's constant.
00:53:19.640
It's like bodybuilding, recuperation, testosterone.
00:53:23.720
I'm going to buy testosterone online from some fucking guy I don't know.
00:53:49.160
I like when somebody goes on Rogan and they talk about a product.
00:53:53.180
And then you go on Instagram two weeks later and they're talking on Rogan about the product.
00:53:57.040
And they're selling it just because Rogan was in it.
00:54:11.320
We've just gotten to where everything is an advertisement.
00:54:16.860
I mean, if you look at it even with like a lot of young men aren't having sex anymore.
00:54:21.260
A lot of women are selling their bodies on only face.
00:54:24.080
It's like there's nobody holding anything, you know.
00:54:27.160
It used to be you had to go at least tickle somebody to get some pussy, you know.
00:54:47.900
We've forgotten with, listen, man, we've forgotten a lot of things.
00:54:56.760
You know, I was really opposed to texting for years.
00:55:05.440
But I didn't like it because it takes away our connection, man.
00:55:20.520
Because what they're doing is creating a society that separates us even more.
00:55:41.380
It's like, I'm going to tell you something interesting.
00:55:52.320
And once I was there a year, August 19th of 2021, I was a little better.
00:56:02.800
But I did something that before I did the knee operation, because I went back and my knee
00:56:09.300
went to shit as soon as I landed, like three weeks later, because I was going to cryo every
00:56:14.840
But once I landed here in the pandemic, there was no more fucking cryo.
00:56:22.780
And one day I was going for a ride, and I saw a jujitsu school, a Gracie jujitsu school
00:56:35.720
But people are still, like, not touching each other and shit.
00:56:43.220
But when I left there, I had a doctor's appointment, like, a week later.
00:56:46.900
And then he told me I had to have knee surgery.
00:56:53.320
And it's the guy, the brown belt at the school.
00:56:58.140
I go, dog, after I saw you, I got knee surgery, so it'll be a while.
00:57:07.560
He was just being a nice kid going, if you want to come in and move a little bit, it'd just
00:57:20.300
I went to jujitsu the same day that the Soprano movie premiered.
00:57:37.900
And then he goes, just roll with me for a minute.
00:57:39.640
And I remember leaving that and going, I feel a lot better.
00:57:48.260
I'm not gay or nothing, but just that touch of him fucking submitting me and grabbing me.
00:57:59.040
I'm like, I'm going to sit at the beacon with 2,000 fucking people to see this movie.
00:58:07.140
When I got out, the driver dropped me on the corner of the beacon.
00:58:17.880
And I remember walking out of that circle going, if I don't get COVID now, I'll never get it.
00:58:27.200
Just saw the movie with my family and some friends.
00:58:31.720
But going to that jiu-jitsu class and the classes after that, like, I was just going to take privates for, like, six months.
00:58:46.560
I need to talk to them and touch them and fucking be human around, be human.
00:58:52.500
Isolation, it feels like it's what you want to do for yourself to make things easier and more comfortable.
00:58:57.620
And that is one of the biggest traps, you know.
00:59:02.060
It's like I'll, like, even the other day I had some friends that went out on the boat here on Lake Austin, right?
00:59:06.900
First, I was like, I'd rather just chill, work on my comedy, you know.
00:59:10.180
I'm in Austin specifically to work on, get up on stage and stuff.
00:59:14.500
And so, but then I was like, you know, I should go because I always choose the let me stay and work on something.
00:59:24.760
And then I find myself, well, then you're always by yourself.
00:59:28.600
You get stuck with by yourself thoughts, by yourself bullshit.
00:59:32.400
You know, when you're with somebody, you get a, they don't, and they don't fucking run off.
00:59:39.320
I'm not a weird, I'm not a complete weirdo, you know.
00:59:44.640
And being in those classes, it just like, and you make friends, you start to realize people got your back.
00:59:51.540
That, there's nothing is as helpful, I don't think, as going to those jiu-jitsu classes.
00:59:55.720
I don't go into them as much as I wish I did, because I kept getting hurt, bro.
01:00:05.740
I got a fucking bunch of lemons, fucking duct taped to my rib cage and reading shit online, you know.
01:00:11.520
Eating oleander or whatever on the fucking internet and apple seeds.
01:00:19.320
I remember one time where we'd been in there rolling for the day, and I just started bawling, crying, bro.
01:00:24.440
Like, just shit from my, that was stuck in my body or whatever.
01:00:34.140
I go every Monday and Thursday, and it keeps me together.
01:00:38.200
You have to show up with a million dollar envelope for me not to go.
01:00:48.560
And after that hurt, my ankle, I go, you know what?
01:00:58.820
I ride the bike, and I'm done for the fucking week.
01:01:01.880
Like, I don't give a fuck what you got going on.
01:01:05.760
I got to go to jiu-jitsu because if you don't go on Monday, then you're behind a week.
01:01:20.380
I got to cover, and that's why I always go Monday.
01:01:25.780
If you want to take Thursday from me, something else will happen.
01:01:28.240
But that's helped me a lot because it gives you a different set of friends.
01:01:34.840
And it gives you a set of friends that have, you know, they're all trying to get healthy.
01:01:53.840
I even enjoyed jujitsu when I was doing comedy full time because it got you away from the agents and the managers and everybody talking about the same shit all the time.
01:02:06.200
And secret gay dudes, too, out there in Hollywood, bro.
01:02:11.000
I remember the first time I ever, some guy, you know, I just got into town.
01:02:16.140
And some guy tried to kiss me outside of a park or whatever.
01:02:18.860
And then I remember another time a dude, an agent or whatever, gave me a ride to some place, introduced me to like Cuba Gooding Jr. or whatever.
01:02:33.380
Dude, I was like, if I wasn't a little brave, I would have been gay, bro.
01:02:50.620
Whenever one of those guys wants a hit on you, rock, show him the cock.
01:02:57.200
Suck this fucking, suck this stick of love over here.
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Dude, and Rocky, they grew up, like, downwind from, like, one of those pesticide factories or something, you know, the place that would have the spray rig, you know?
01:06:49.480
Dude, remember when the spray rig would come through your neighborhood, dude?
01:06:52.320
We would fucking get on our bikes, bro, and ride, because in Louisiana, they sprayed that bitch fucking twice a week, dude.
01:06:59.000
The whole fucking, everybody's stepmother looked like a mosquito in that bitch, dude.
01:07:03.300
But we would get on our bikes and just ride behind that gas, just pure gas coming out that bitch, dude.
01:07:10.380
But Rocky and then Mr. Denny, they lived downwind from one of those fuckers.
01:07:15.280
That's what probably fucked, made his dick big.
01:07:18.620
People gonna all move from those places now and go, man, it made Rocky's dick big.
01:07:23.540
Oh, Rocky ain't been fucking stung by a bee since 2011, bro, I'll tell you that, dude.
01:07:31.680
God, I love, yeah, dude, I love, I guess the best thing is remembering stuff from growing up.
01:07:37.560
That's something that I really, that's my favorite thing, is just remembering stuff from growing up.
01:07:47.140
I love it, you know, that's where most of, like, the most entertaining stuff is for me.
01:07:51.780
But growing up now feels, yeah, it feels, like, kind of weird.
01:07:54.800
I think for a lot of times, I didn't want to grow up because I still wanted to just be a part.
01:07:58.540
I feel like if I grow up too much, then I'm, then I lose all the fun.
01:08:05.760
You know, man, it's so weird how you look at your life and you go, what the fuck?
01:08:09.440
Like, I haven't had fun, like, fun, fun, fun, since I left New Jersey when I was 20.
01:08:17.080
Like, that old-fashioned fun that I liked, I enjoyed, you know, just getting fucked up and laughing with your friends.
01:08:24.820
Sleeping on the floor and going down the shore and all that shit.
01:08:28.280
And then it's like I've been chasing it for the last 40 years.
01:08:34.500
What happened those summers when I was growing up?
01:08:39.680
I look at, like, I was seeing something about, a while ago about a club.
01:08:43.660
They were talking about this club and VIP and all this.
01:08:46.160
And I looked at it and I'm like, all this is is people chasing Studio 54.
01:08:58.500
You know, us, guys like you and I, our childhoods were fucking really special.
01:09:06.820
When we think of our childhood, we had no other option than to become a comic.
01:09:10.540
Because all the tools were put in front of us, the stories, the situations, other storytellers
01:09:21.560
I think now, like, I was always going to be a comic.
01:09:30.380
I remember somebody told me one time that when you do a movie, okay, like, you know,
01:09:36.940
I did a bunch of movies earlier and nobody talked to me.
01:09:50.520
Because one day, when the podcast and everything else started lifting us, people started connecting
01:10:01.600
But after you hit a little bit and people start following you and stuff, your movies will
01:10:12.400
Yeah, he had a concept that said, like, people do a movie.
01:10:16.420
Like, you do a movie with, like, who's the hottest star today?
01:10:36.520
You don't think that you're getting as much as you should have.
01:10:54.720
They didn't talk to me till I fucking told the story about mugging a hookah and lighting
01:11:11.600
Let's say you did a movie with Bradley Cooper and you call me a year from now and go,
01:11:23.040
But in three years, as you keep growing, your career keeps growing, more people will
01:11:29.080
start going, Let me watch that movie because Theo's in it now.
01:11:38.060
And that's how that movie gets big and connected to all the other movies.
01:11:49.720
That's the only movie where people would come out and shake my hand and at the end of the
01:11:54.660
Because they thought I was going to go up there and do Adam Sandler knock-knock jokes.
01:11:58.040
I'm up there talking about snorting coke and fucking getting my dick sucked.
01:12:06.460
And now you say one fucking joke about mugging a hooker and you're selling out fucking comedy
01:12:14.840
But the culture of it is what I'm talking about.
01:12:17.600
How you might not think nobody saw you, but years from now.
01:12:21.500
It's like you could do 18 movies and the movie you hate the most is the one that people come
01:12:40.620
I was coked up till 8 in the morning and my call time was at 9.
01:12:43.820
And they're like, oh, no wonder you hated the fucking movie.
01:12:51.140
I guess it's like, did you think that when podcasting started, it was going to be what
01:12:59.400
Did you get into it because you were like, oh, I don't know if like acting is going to
01:13:05.780
Like what was kind of your motivation to get into it?
01:13:39.140
And they're like, we're willing to give you like six weeks of work.
01:13:43.080
The number they threw at me was so fucking ridiculous.
01:13:48.620
And a year before this, I had had this conversation with somebody else.
01:13:58.800
And he told me that right before he got Molly and whatever that fucking show was, Mike and Molly, he was like, I'm thinking of getting out of this shit.
01:14:11.300
They want me to work Wednesday through Sunday in those days.
01:14:14.400
And I'm like, you know, when that happened to me, I was like, you know what, it's 2009.
01:14:23.780
I'm going to go to the Ford store and pee in a bottle and get a job selling cars.
01:14:37.300
It's, it's, I've been doing it for 20 years or something, right?
01:14:42.160
And it's not, I'm not even happy doing it anymore.
01:14:50.920
I could always book a movie or a TV show, except lately.
01:15:01.460
I got a two, I got two, I got an audition for me to go, go fuck yourself.
01:15:06.620
When you got one line to curse at Steve Martin and you don't get it, you're not doing well.
01:15:18.760
If they have something, they'll call me and I'll put it on tape.
01:15:21.760
Lately, they've been doing Zoom ones, which I'm in fucking shock.
01:15:36.440
My dick gets hard when I go in the room and there's other actors in there and they look
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I'm going to show you what I'm doing here, bitch.
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But then when they call you for wardrobe, you're like, come on, guys.
01:15:54.220
Come back for this and then park and then we're going to do a table read on Tuesday.
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If somebody calls you and says you got something.
01:16:15.940
I remember going to audition one time and the guy told us in the audition, go home.
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But what I was telling you was the truth was, I'm going to tell you the honest to God truth.
01:16:40.920
I'm not the best comedian, but I'm a good storyteller.
01:16:46.720
And I always knew if I had a chance to tell my story, it would change things.
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If it didn't, then I'll go away into the hills quietly.
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Like anything 20 years ago with boxing, you know, you look at a guy that's a boxer or UFC fighter.
01:17:09.740
All right, and you're like, look at this fucking guy.
01:17:15.020
But then they do those things, you know, 20 for 20, like those HBO would do like, let's talk to Theo at his house, you know.
01:17:39.360
And he gets up in the morning after training, two hours, and he goes to the farm and works eight hours.
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And then he picks his kid up from school, cooks for them.
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Then he goes back over there and puts his kids in showers.
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And you're like, I thought this guy was just a fucking sack of shit.
01:17:58.940
That I knew if I could tell my story digitally, like detail by detail, I could get somewhere.
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And for two months, we were doing what people do.
01:18:17.100
When you get into the nuts and bolster people and you, like I told you, I had nothing going on in my career until I told the story that I mugged the hooker and lit her wig on fire.
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And all of a sudden, I was selling 150 tickets a show.
01:18:30.400
And you're like, I've done fucking all this stuff.
01:18:48.700
And then I would, like, negotiate with hookers online.
01:18:53.100
So I'm sitting there like, I'm not, like, price gouging or whatever they call it.
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But I'm like, you know, like, I'm like, how about this?
01:19:01.380
You know, give me, like, you know, $75 off the amount or whatever.
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A woman of the night or whatever escort would come over.
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Fucking hand them the money and have them go home.
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And I would do that two or three times in the night.
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And I couldn't even understand what she was saying.
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I thought she wanted to do, like, butt stuff or something.
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But then she just was trying to get me to watch this fucking dog, dude.
01:19:57.740
So the whole conversation was just ridiculous, bro.
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You're not the only heart that got fucking secret fucking desires.
01:20:24.780
Whenever you do coke and you're by yourself, you're dying to call a freak that's going to take the ride with you.
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And if I got somebody to come over, if I jerked off before they come over, then I wouldn't even open the door.
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I'd crash a fucking aspirin and give it to them.
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Like, I'd feel so bad once a hooker was coming over one time.
01:20:58.180
I remember putting on, like, I didn't want to even seem like I did coke or whatever.
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So, I, like, I remember putting on, like, an apron or something to make it seem like I was, like, cooking around my house.
01:21:06.580
Like, just being, like, an organized guy, you know?
01:21:18.400
I just wanted to look like I was doing something important or whatever, and I didn't have, like, a, you know, that was the closest thing.
01:21:24.780
I had, like, a uniform, I guess, or whatever was that, but.
01:21:27.660
I would love to sit with, like, a fucking, I don't know, one of those psychotherapists that's analyzing people for drugs or something,
01:21:36.480
and just sit there with them for three days and tell them the stupid shit that, and it's not even stupid.
01:21:46.120
When you think about it years later, you're, like, that was fucked.
01:21:55.620
And I was thinking about in 86 when the Mets won the series or something with a playoff.
01:22:03.160
I went to New York to pick up, like, a couple ounces of Coke.
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And when I got there, the guy I went to see said to me, your Coke is ready to go.
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I got to go away for three days to a wedding in Connecticut or something.
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And I stayed in that house from Friday to Sunday snorting Coke with a candle and with my pants rolled up because it was all water.
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So I'm walking around like Jethro Tull, that album from Jethro Tull, with a mirror, navigating myself to the water in this fucking basement.
01:23:21.400
He would call me every hour like, how's it going over there?
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I'm here with your sister and mom snorting fucking Coke in this fucking, you know.
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And then I get to the airport, Kennedy Airport.
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When I walked out, they had a T-shirt on and steam was coming out of me.
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And people looking at me like, what the fuck is he on?
01:23:57.040
Then I got on the plane and I was so coked out.
01:24:01.220
Before the plane took off, they came to me and said, you can't keep getting up and going to the bathroom.
01:24:05.960
I was going every eight minutes to the bathroom to load up.
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And then when the plane took off, I actually took the blanket, put it over my head, put the lunch tray down, crushed it up.
01:24:30.740
You got to remember, this was going on in our lives once a week.
01:24:35.120
And then I go, because in those days, the planes had like a little bar.
01:24:40.560
And I remember that, I'll never forget, there was a black linted bar.
01:24:50.940
No, People's Express was a plane that went out of business, a company that went out of business.
01:25:00.720
This shit today, I don't know what the fuck's going on.
01:25:06.620
You go on a plane now, you go on a plane to sit there like a commie and look straight ahead.
01:25:11.480
In the 80s and 90s, you went on a plane, you partied.
01:25:17.600
He always says about how great it was on planes.
01:25:19.680
I could come up with the Theo and go, Theo, buy Theo a drink, buy that lady in row three
01:25:24.020
a drink, and all of a sudden, you're picking up chicks on a plane, dog.
01:25:32.200
I order whatever, a Southern Comfort, an orange juice, whatever the fuck I'm drinking.
01:25:36.420
And Theo, as I'm talking, it's just me and him at the bar.
01:25:40.440
A fucking Coke rock falls out of my nose and lands on the lint, and me and him are looking
01:25:48.320
And I go, I look up, and I'm looking at the plane.
01:25:57.360
Look, I was doing shit that nobody, I remember going on a date with a girl to a fucking net
01:26:08.340
I was holding it for later in case you didn't want to go home with me.
01:26:10.720
You know, the first quarter I'm talking to, and we're not getting nowhere.
01:26:17.660
I went to the bar to get a drink at the net game.
01:26:30.320
And all of a sudden I go, you want to do a line?
01:26:41.660
By the end of the night, he had his fucking bow tie off.
01:26:45.880
He was just pouring them in and giving them to people.
01:26:48.120
I didn't go back to that seat until three minutes left.
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I had a good fucking time sitting next to your fucking tight-ass fucking telling me.
01:27:02.480
I mean, that's the shit that happened all the fucking time.
01:27:12.680
But listen, there was a time when there was a $39 flight to Miami.
01:27:34.420
You get on that plane and there'd be 200 people fucking whacked.
01:27:48.040
They'd get on that plane with the last two lines and pray to God until they get to the airport.
01:27:56.640
After midnight, a fucking, on the hour every hour to Miami.
01:28:03.160
Why would that fucking, why would you want to go to Miami?
01:28:05.640
What would make you want to go to Miami at 2 in the morning?
01:28:20.280
Thousands of, you know, fucking getting high and not getting anywhere.
01:28:27.840
After you look at it over a long period of time, it's like getting high and not getting anywhere.
01:28:33.140
You know, you're talking about that shit about giving the hook of money.
01:28:41.160
I bought an eight ball and I didn't take no cigarettes home.
01:28:44.140
Because I knew once I had that eight ball in me, I'm not walking a 7-Eleven.
01:28:49.540
So I stayed in that apartment all night, eight hours with no fucking cigarettes on an eight
01:28:59.920
I bought an eight ball and no cigarettes to go.
01:29:07.560
I've told this story before, but I, you know, I went one time.
01:29:10.280
I used to love telling people that people had died.
01:29:13.200
One of my favorite things to do, tell people like a famous person had died.
01:29:18.920
I'd be like, oh, you know, someone so died, whatever, you know, and just, we could talk
01:29:25.100
And they find out at some point that they didn't die.
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I just talked to this guy for an hour about over here.
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01:30:18.380
Yeah, dude, I remember one time I had an escort or whatever.
01:30:22.880
I hate to hooker, I feel like, but do hookers like the term hooker?
01:30:28.700
So yeah, and I always paid, but yeah, this hooker got sick one time, and I remember I
01:30:35.080
stayed over there for like a day and a half taking care of her.
01:30:43.440
No, we texted for a while, and then I changed my number.
01:30:50.340
We didn't even speak really the same language that much.
01:30:52.740
I think she spoke like Slovakia maybe or something, but yeah, but we were, I mean, definitely
01:30:59.820
had been doing drugs, but that was that, you know?
01:31:03.060
I saw my mother, I wouldn't surprise my mom for Mother's Day.
01:31:13.120
I got over there, and I go to her house, right?
01:31:17.960
I'd never been to the house that she lives in, but she's only been there for maybe about
01:31:21.820
a year and a half, but so I go, I'm knocking on the door, and I'm like, she's not answering.
01:31:27.700
I'm like, oh, man, don't tell me, like, they'll finally come to see her, you know, and that
01:31:32.960
would be my mom, you know, because that's how she is.
01:31:35.680
I finally come to visit, and she goes and dies just to show me up, you know?
01:31:39.220
Like, I could see her doing that shit, but I look through the window, through the blinds,
01:31:44.200
and through the back blind that's open, and she's laying out in the back in the bikini,
01:31:48.020
Because my mom would, like, the one time she would spend by herself, she would get in
01:31:52.420
her bikini and get herself a can of beer and go lay on the side of that house.
01:31:56.240
How old is your mom now, if you don't mind me asking?
01:32:10.000
This was the first time I'd ever went and, like, visited my mother in years, you know?
01:32:14.020
Like, she never asked, she never, like, says, like, I want you to come.
01:32:17.940
You know, she doesn't, she doesn't like to assert herself into things, really, you know?
01:32:25.400
She just, she likes to kind of keep her distance, I think, in some ways.
01:32:30.300
But, anyway, so I look through the thing, and I see her in the back in that bikini in
01:32:34.480
the chair, and it brought all the memories out from when I was a kid.
01:32:36.760
Sometimes, like, if she'd had enough, she'd fucking go lay out in the side yard and put
01:32:43.040
And if I, look, our whole apartment complex was always sinking in the mud.
01:32:47.820
We was always fucking fighting with the landlord.
01:32:52.180
We're fucking, you know, the dinner table's two inches lower than it was last week, you
01:32:56.840
So mom's chair would be over there just slowly.
01:32:59.560
We thought that bitch was going to disappear, bro.
01:33:12.220
Like, even when I was young, she always was going.
01:33:20.600
That's the one thing I think I remember the most about my mom.
01:33:27.400
She, just how she's built, you know, something inside of her, she, it's hard for her to stay
01:33:40.500
You sit there and you go, nobody calls me to do anything.
01:33:44.460
And when they do call, you know, I'm living a life now off of Bill Hicks.
01:33:52.300
Bill Hicks had the greatest joke that couldn't be any truer.
01:33:58.740
It just makes you realize that what you're going to do just ain't worth doing.
01:34:08.220
For me to get into this party, I got to drive an hour and a half.
01:34:11.180
By the time I get back and I got to hear shit, you know, it's just a thousand variables.
01:34:17.460
But then again, Tom Hardy says that once you spend time alone for a while, you like it.
01:34:23.600
And some people like it and there's nothing wrong with that, Theo.
01:34:26.640
Theo, listen, at this age and at any age, from the time I was 20, my favorite thing,
01:34:37.920
But between me and you, give me a joint and a good book.
01:34:44.480
I'll smoke a joint every two hours, take a bite of the sandwich.
01:34:49.440
That's the happiest I am when I'm fucking reading.
01:34:53.100
If I don't have a book now in the hotel, I'll go back and start looking up recuperation
01:34:57.220
for men over 60, benefits of boxing, you know, benefits of breathing.
01:35:10.720
You press benefits on my page and every benefit comes up.
01:35:18.160
Benefits of doing, you know, I'm the captain benefit.
01:35:21.360
I want to know everything that I can about something.
01:35:37.480
We wish we could have joined the fucking improv troupe and been to the wall flowers.
01:35:42.060
And no, we like being up there alone with a microphone with four bricks and working ourselves
01:35:49.280
Takes a certain person want to be a comic, bro.
01:35:53.620
Yeah, I think sometimes I do compare myself to just like people that aren't comics that
01:35:57.520
And then you have to realize how odd it is to do that job.
01:36:03.580
If you saw an animal do it in the woods, you'd be like, that fucking animal's out of his fucking
01:36:15.080
You have to come to terms with all the things we are as comics.
01:36:25.280
We chose something that, you know, I don't know why I chose it.
01:36:30.860
And I knew once I had the felonies, I wasn't going to do anything else that I really liked.
01:36:36.860
This is not, you know, comedy is a profession for fucking guys like us.
01:36:44.380
We can't figure out what it is, but it makes us tick.
01:36:59.080
And so I remember we would hear him say it, dude.
01:37:01.980
Just those books like by, who's the crazy white guy?
01:37:08.600
The comic, the comic before fucking Richard Pryor.
01:37:17.620
Next time you're having a hard time with yourself, go order one of his books.
01:37:22.300
Ladies and gentlemen, Legendary, How to Talk Dirty, any of those books.
01:37:38.380
That book will tell you more about yourself than you know about yourself.
01:37:46.580
He partied with strippers and jazz musicians and did heroin every night.
01:37:54.640
He didn't have to be at work till 11 o'clock at night.
01:37:56.840
Remember, they only did fucking burlesque shows.
01:38:12.680
And Lenny Bruce used to play there in the 50s and 60s.
01:38:15.760
If you ever have a chance to go to this place, go out there.
01:38:32.400
You know, I had been at Zaney's already one time.
01:38:35.660
And I was going back to see my in-laws, so I wanted to do stand-up one night.
01:38:43.940
He was telling the stories about all the comics that would come through there in the 50s and 60s.
01:38:52.300
No wonder fucking my boy Johnny Cash was going to Jackson, right?
01:39:02.900
We're not, you know, and that's why I went home.
01:39:11.780
I wanted to come back to Jersey to find myself.
01:39:15.760
Do you think that you've gathered what you wanted to find?
01:39:32.660
Did you have any amends to make whenever you got there or no?
01:39:38.480
But the people that was going to make amends still weren't worth making the amends to.
01:39:46.600
My amends was doing something with my life, right?
01:39:50.780
If you really cared about me or care about anybody, you look at them and go, that dude
01:39:59.600
The guy fucked me over, but he died in a car accident.
01:40:12.360
I'm not going to fucking apologize to nobody in there.
01:40:15.900
Yeah, I didn't know if anything wild had happened.
01:40:18.920
I don't have anything like that either, I don't think, from my hometown.
01:40:25.900
You know, when you've been there for a long time, it's a number on your head for a while.
01:40:29.680
Like, just, you know, we thought there was a lot of rejection.
01:41:19.400
Dog, I had so many tickets when I first moved to L.A.
01:41:26.600
Ralphie Mae and those guys go, oh, your apartment got towed.
01:41:36.800
That not having money to eat lunch and having to rob the gas station for a pack of cigarettes
01:41:40.680
on the way to Josh Wolf's house to get a turkey burger.
01:41:43.680
You know, to fucking borrow eight bucks to go to Sunset Grill and get a burger with the guy with the bum leg.
01:41:50.060
You know, nobody knows that, what it's like to showcase for Jay Massad and them telling you, like, why are you here?
01:42:04.700
But then it was seven years of I can't get an agent.
01:42:14.440
We did something that a lot of people just can't handle.
01:42:25.700
But for me, I think it was time to move on to the next chapter.
01:42:35.980
I feel bad that I haven't even read it, but I did just order it today.
01:42:41.820
I think when I did your podcast last time over Zoom, I think you remember telling me
01:42:51.180
I was trying to write that book for fucking 20 years.
01:42:54.280
A lot of comics always have that book milling around in them, huh?
01:42:59.340
And then I kept trying to hook up with a writer.
01:43:03.000
And then I hooked up with Jimmy Florentine's niece.
01:43:11.920
We made it to number nine on the audio book in New York Times, which for a dirty comic
01:43:23.220
Before, you were saying something really funny.
01:43:27.400
But you were telling me that you used to call people and tell them celebrities died.
01:43:36.260
And so I remember one time we went on a camping trip with them.
01:43:39.560
And right when we started out, I told everybody Jay Leno had died, right?
01:43:49.240
And so all the dads were like, oh, gosh, that's so sorry to hear that.
01:43:53.440
And so then throughout the rest of the weekend, I'd be in my tent, right?
01:43:56.720
And I'd hear the dads out there talking one I'm telling the other one.
01:43:59.340
And, you know, Jay Leno passed away, and I would be in my tent, bro, fucking howling, bro, laughing at a level where it was like coming out of my fucking spine.
01:44:11.640
And I don't know why stuff like that made me laugh so much.
01:44:15.500
I don't know if it was that I had control, like a hidden control or that I was affecting things without them knowing.
01:44:21.420
I mean, it just, there was nothing as good as that, bro, as that kind of shit, dude.
01:44:26.600
When you fuck with people, like, you know, control fucking with people, like me telling Lonnie Bravo Rogan was in the CIA, all that shit, bro, it's always great.
01:44:37.760
But the best thing I ever think I did, and I did it on accident, remember Chuck Liddell?
01:44:43.920
When Chuck Liddell was the fucking king of the UFC, he was the king of the UFC, okay?
01:44:58.660
I get a call from a friend of mine, he goes, you know, Fidel died.
01:45:07.580
And he goes, I'm sitting here with Dana White or something.
01:45:11.340
And I go, you know, Fidel died, but the phone didn't say it right.
01:45:19.220
He told Dana White that Joey Diaz just called him, told him Chuck Liddell died.
01:45:28.860
Now this is Dana White's fucking man at the time.
01:45:32.120
Dana White's got no hair, and he lost even, he lost the hair he was going to give his children.
01:45:40.300
Eddie Bravo called Dana and says, Liddell died.
01:45:51.780
Did your, did your parents come over from Cuba?
01:46:04.040
And Fidel came and spoke to our class, I remember.
01:46:07.120
But I, we, we didn't speak enough Spanish to know a ton of, they had a translator.
01:46:19.360
It was like a floating college, but we stopped there on the cruise ship.
01:46:22.240
I was working in a bookstore, so we pull up in a Cuba, dude, and all the people are there
01:46:25.800
having, you know, and we're like throwing all our tennis shoes, everything we own that
01:46:29.420
they could have, we're throwing it off the boat, bro.
01:46:32.020
And like, you would be walking through town and people would like, have you come up to
01:46:35.200
And they would tell you like, just about like the control they were under and shit.
01:46:39.380
And it was like top secret kind of, but we got to go to a baseball game.
01:46:43.140
Dude, a cup, some group was partying in this alley somewhere.
01:46:45.880
I went over there, I'm dancing, partying, they cut open a birthday cake, bro.
01:46:48.920
We thought it was like a fucking, a party for like an old man.
01:46:55.880
This old dude is going down on one of the chicks, bro.
01:47:04.760
I thought it was like somebody's grandpa's birthday, bro.
01:47:08.600
I'm over there singing the Pledge of Allegiance.
01:47:11.460
I look over, dude, this guy's fucking trying to get back in the birth canal over here.
01:47:27.780
And those girls come up here and they destroy it.
01:47:34.600
There's a strip club in Jersey that my friend, I grew up with this guy, he owns.
01:47:38.740
And they keep closing them down because they're just nasty.
01:47:45.660
I went in there like three times and I'm like, this is buck wild.
01:47:49.340
There was a biker chick that would slam her heels together.
01:47:52.140
And every time her heels would come, I got to get out of here.
01:47:58.140
And I would go in there once a week just to talk to the one Cuban girl.
01:48:02.220
And she would tell me about Cuba, what's going on.
01:48:05.440
And she would tell me right now, why don't you just sit there?
01:48:11.160
There's thousands of girls that will suck your dick.
01:48:13.360
What are you there talking, watching the game for?
01:48:22.180
That's when I might get a real Spanish wife or something.
01:48:37.660
How'd you know you were in love when you met your wife, dude?
01:48:43.900
You think it's hard for guys like us to be in love, kind of?
01:48:50.840
That's when you're in L.A., not when you're in your hometown.
01:48:53.820
Once you get to L.A. and you're caught up, that's your love.
01:48:57.500
When you really, really think about it, at the end of the day, that's your love.
01:49:00.500
I was with my wife maybe three years before, you know, it was like, but thank God she had patience.
01:49:14.060
And it wasn't until my wife and I got together.
01:49:18.560
We're going to be together 24 years next month.
01:49:31.280
The relationship was good, but we were always struggling.
01:49:37.720
And I got to Longest Yard, and I went to shoot it, and when I came back home, I had to shoot, you know, for 11 weeks.
01:49:55.540
So I don't know how many times I got up at 3 in the morning, and my fucking costume would be out.
01:50:02.520
She'd be cooking eggs at 3 in the morning for me.
01:50:08.020
You know, like, and that's when I realized I really love her.
01:50:15.900
Once you get married and you lose, I'm a Catholic.
01:50:25.760
If it's not working, let's move the fuck on, you know.
01:50:28.540
But with her, it was different, and now it's tremendous.
01:50:32.420
Like, I mean, it's now, after 24, I look at her, and I'm like, if it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be here.
01:50:39.900
Did moving to Jersey help you guys' relationship, you think?
01:50:43.340
One thing about me and my wife, I got to be honest with you, we got into a fight in December in Nashville.
01:50:50.080
Beside that, me and my wife never really, we got into, like, it was a long-awaited battle.
01:51:01.080
I just went home Christmas Day, and she got mad at me for, like, two weeks.
01:51:04.980
We had a little problem at the house for two weeks.
01:51:07.580
But ever since then, it's been, and before then, it was smooth, you know.
01:51:15.140
And now we got this little girl, and, you know, we bought this house.
01:51:19.660
We did so many fucking things in three years, you know.
01:51:25.520
I got a pension for the pension, another pension.
01:51:28.460
Hopefully she's laundering money from you, too.
01:51:35.800
I never thought I would say something like this.
01:51:41.960
For me, it was the best thing that happened at that time.
01:51:46.880
Like, was there a fear to be like, okay, this is.
01:51:57.520
Then you come back a year later, and there they are.
01:51:59.320
And then one time you come back, and they obviously have a boyfriend.
01:52:02.380
And they bring them to the show, and that's when the relationship ends.
01:52:08.580
And I had, honest to God, no lie, I probably had six girls on the rotation
01:52:13.500
that would just come over to snort coke and have sex.
01:52:18.740
It's a beautiful thing, but it's like, you get used to it.
01:52:22.200
Right, and yeah, and then it runs its course, and then time changes.
01:52:25.180
And you come back, and you're still living five years ago,
01:52:27.140
and now they got chilled, they got a fan, so everything changes.
01:52:37.100
Then it took me two more years of struggling on coke.
01:52:42.660
Heroin, and then, and that was what was killing me, that I was hurting her.
01:52:47.240
And one day I go, you know what, I got to stop this shit,
01:53:01.980
That would live with her for the rest of her life.
01:53:15.640
I didn't want people telling Rogan he was wrong.
01:53:21.500
So now he's got my back 100%, because, so I got clean,
01:53:26.300
and then two years later I proposed to her on the phone.
01:53:33.960
I was going for a ride, and I go, you know what, I got to marry this girl.
01:53:41.140
That's interesting, man, saying, like, I don't want to hurt you,
01:53:48.060
She could never handle waking up and finding me on the floor.
01:53:57.740
We could find anybody dead and the next day fucking go eat a pizza.
01:54:13.460
Sometimes I'll be sitting with somebody, I'll be like,
01:54:15.000
if this person died, what would I do with him right now?
01:54:21.440
Yeah, and I'm just sitting in the backseat of an Uber,
01:54:23.780
and you're like, what the fuck would I do with this guy, you know?
01:54:26.180
Do you ever have tough moments, like when you think back on your own mom
01:54:33.520
Do you ever, like, on Mother's Day, do you do anything special?
01:54:39.780
It's like these idiots celebrate 420 one day a year.
01:54:48.560
In fact, I didn't even bring flowers to a cemetery this time.
01:54:52.920
I went to a cemetery when I moved back to Jersey.
01:54:58.520
I went, I complained, I brought some tools up there,
01:55:01.020
I did some cleaning, and it's, like, scared me now.
01:55:05.380
And it's, like, now I don't even want to be buried.
01:55:08.060
I don't want the people to have to come visit me
01:55:25.480
Yeah, do you remember, like, a funny story that you,
01:55:31.040
Oh, I got 30,000 of those things where it's just,
01:55:35.000
I still remember a night where I was probably, like,
01:55:55.700
Some nights she'd just walk me up to talk to me
01:55:59.580
This one particular night she woke up and she's like,
01:56:03.480
There's a girl downstairs that wants to meet you.
01:56:09.480
And I went down, like, with warm-ups or something.
01:56:14.100
and there was other women and fucking my stepdad
01:56:21.560
At 4 in the morning, I went upstairs and put on a suit.
01:56:32.160
Finally, somebody gives me, like, a shot of whiskey.
01:56:36.820
And all of a sudden, they're, like, take her upstairs.
01:56:43.460
I just held her hand, and she took me upstairs to the attic.
01:56:47.720
We had an attic where she was going to spend the night.
01:56:50.420
And, Theo, do you know till this day, I cannot tell you if I fucked her,
01:56:56.280
I think I just passed out from the fucking anxiety.
01:57:08.740
Like, when I went to Catholic school and I come home, she's like,
01:57:19.380
And I have to go up there and fight two fucking kids.
01:57:24.860
But those years, this is what I'm trying to do with my daughter now.
01:57:28.280
Because I remembered what, how my mom got to me.
01:57:34.420
Like, I finally had to tell my daughter a couple months ago that I smoked pot.
01:57:44.080
Smoke coming out of your mouth and you come out of the bathroom.
01:57:49.340
She's like, we have smoke coming out of our house and we don't have a chimney, Dad.
01:57:56.720
And she'll go, and I go, company keeps breaking in my house and smoking dope.
01:58:10.100
Soon, eventually, someday, I got to tell her the story.
01:58:13.380
I don't want to tell her now because I don't want her to think, well, what if me and mommy break up?
01:58:21.380
I thought when I put the book out, I would have to sit her down.
01:58:27.560
No, she's not going to read it until I tell her to read it.
01:58:36.400
If it wasn't for my childhood, I would have never became the person I would have became.
01:58:41.840
Whether it's a criminal thing, everything I did in my childhood came to help me out later on.
01:58:59.780
It's just so good to just hear your voice even.
01:59:01.800
And I remember how much like when you would go on your lives, dude.
01:59:05.920
Remember when Mad Flavor was going fucking live, dude?
01:59:15.900
Dude, I would get texts from my friends back at home.
01:59:20.000
And I thought it was like a black stripper was going to do something, you know.
01:59:37.160
I love smoking on Instagram and stuff like that.
01:59:40.160
I haven't made a video on Instagram in three weeks.
01:59:50.840
I would get up just to take a shower to go out there, smoke, and talk to these fucking animals.
02:00:00.400
People, dude, I remember a deaf kid even fucking called me and talked to me and told me he was
02:00:06.120
Dude, people fucking came out of their own diseases and malfunctions.
02:00:11.700
We were getting up at seven in the morning to do that shit.
02:00:15.740
At eight o'clock, I was already three sheets to the fucking wind.
02:00:19.900
There was a weed store that opened up at nine that gave out bagels in Studio City.
02:00:28.280
I would be there at nine in the morning with him eating bagels, eating fucking banana bread.
02:00:39.280
And that's why I was uptight last night on stage.
02:00:43.460
I'm going to drop like 800, 1,000 milligrams tonight and go down there and torture Joe,
02:00:57.380
For my situation now, it would, it makes sense.
02:01:11.820
Three, four days, eight, nine sets, get back on the plane and go home.
02:01:15.960
If I buy, I'll buy a condo or something in the building.
02:01:19.080
Like I told you, something that everything is there.
02:01:25.700
Everything, weights, music, they cook in the building.
02:01:30.560
If I could find one of those down here, maybe get Troy Conrad in with me,
02:01:41.040
You know, if they're not watching it, somebody else could come in.
02:01:46.840
I don't want to do that because I don't want to resettle.
02:01:53.360
You know, for me to remove her again, fuck that.
02:02:20.500
But amongst those clubs, I did like, I mean, I probably did 12 sets at Mothership.
02:02:29.640
I went to get tacos, and I'm like, dog, I'm tired.
02:02:32.640
I went to get tacos after the second main room show, and I wanted to do the bottom of the
02:02:37.440
barrel again to get some other joke, but I was like, dog, I got to go home.
02:02:54.580
Ate breakfast, went for a nice walk, smoked a joint, went right back upstairs, watched
02:02:59.200
the rest of some Clint Eastwood movie, and I fucking slept from 10 to 2.
02:03:08.420
I took a long shower, I shaved with one of those Puerto Rican Bic razors.
02:03:18.220
You know, when you get out of the shower, you feel all these little things.
02:03:20.700
I could see myself as I was shaving in the shower, putting all those little cotton balls
02:03:24.620
all over your face, like, that you had all this fucking.
02:03:33.560
Uh, I'm very proud of you and what you've done.
02:03:38.260
I love that you have a smile on your face all the time, and I will take you up on June
02:03:43.920
We're gonna, uh, so you're at Beacon that Friday night.
02:04:02.980
Let's go to lunch Saturday and then go to the fights if you want.
02:04:05.520
Even if you don't go to the fights, it'd be great.
02:04:07.760
Saturday we'll go, cause you'll have more time.
02:04:27.840
Like when he was old though, guys, you know, he was fucking old.
02:04:44.640
But I never saw him box or, you know, he never coached me in boxing.
02:05:00.560
And there was somebody in our neighborhood that told us about like him.
02:05:04.700
And then they said, if you ever go up there, he'll give you money to shovel snow.
02:05:08.300
And I remember one time we went up there as kids.
02:05:10.680
And he was outside giving like danishes and 10 bucks if you shovel.
02:05:16.300
I never really saw him after that or spoke to him.
02:05:20.140
But you hear the legend, you know, and then it is what it is.
02:05:42.780
And he's the one that put the statue from my age.
02:05:48.020
And the whole family showed up when they put the statue up.
02:05:55.460
I think I saw Natalie Portman at my hotel yesterday.
02:06:14.160
And he's like, hey, man, what are you doing here?
02:06:15.800
I'm like, the question is, what are you doing here?
02:06:29.940
And Joe's like, ah, you should have brought him.
02:06:32.000
I bumped into him, started talking to him like he knew me for 10 years.
02:06:50.620
When you hit me last week and said, what time tomorrow?
02:07:08.240
And yeah, I just appreciate the fact that I get to know you.
02:07:19.300
When I told that motherfucker you were down here, he lit up.
02:07:25.400
Just like a warm McFish when I got a hold of him.
02:07:28.780
Nah, I just fucking smelled his breath for a couple minutes, dude.
02:07:39.480
A lot more energetic than I heard him be in the past.
02:07:47.780
You just need a break sometimes to realize what just fucking happened.
02:08:08.840
Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.