This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E521 Bassem Youssef

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00:01:08.540 Today's episodes are regarding the conflict in Israel and Palestine.

00:01:11.860 I've heard a lot about this issue and I want it to deepen my own understanding.

00:01:16.920 I recognize that this is a sensitive topic, but the only way to truly learn is to seek knowledge.

00:01:23.300 I decided to have guests from both sides of the aisle, if you will, to help me learn by sharing their views.

00:01:30.200 I did this in separate episodes because I'm not a debate moderator, and I chose guests who I thought would share their views sincerely,

00:01:38.040 and I think both of them did.

00:01:40.460 I'm very thankful to have the opportunity to learn, which is something that they don't even have in some countries.

00:01:46.580 Today's guest is a comedian who was born in Egypt and now lives here in America.

00:01:50.680 He's also a political commentator, writer, and a former medical surgeon.

00:01:56.400 He's been called the John Stewart of the Arab world and has been pretty vocal about the Israel-Palestine conflict for years.

00:02:04.100 You may have seen his viral appearance on Piers Morgan.

00:02:07.260 We're going to talk about that and a lot more.

00:02:10.060 I'm very grateful for his time.

00:02:12.440 Today's guest is Bassem Youssef.

00:02:14.880 Bassem Youssef.

00:02:44.280 Yes.

00:02:45.420 That's how you say it?

00:02:46.160 Bassem?

00:02:46.860 No, Bassem.

00:02:47.580 Bassem.

00:02:48.080 Bassem.

00:02:48.680 Oh, yeah.

00:02:49.160 Softer.

00:02:49.620 Bassem.

00:02:50.060 Oh, Bassem.

00:02:50.900 Bassem.

00:02:51.660 Yeah.

00:02:53.040 Your student special at the Wiltern.

00:02:55.000 Yes.

00:02:55.580 On October 4th.

00:02:57.700 Yes.

00:02:58.140 Okay.

00:02:58.680 Yes.

00:02:59.060 And what kind of like, so your audience is predominantly, because you're Egyptian.

00:03:02.820 Yes.

00:03:03.320 And is your audience mostly like Egyptian folks, or does all Middle Eastern people come out and support a Middle Eastern comedian?

00:03:10.760 Mostly brown people, 60% Arabs, sometimes 50%,

00:03:14.540 and then maybe 20%, like Indian, Pakistanis, and then the rest are white.

00:03:19.020 Yeah.

00:03:19.200 So I get like between 20% to 30% white people, but it's different from each state, from each show.

00:03:27.160 So it's been quite a ride, to be honest.

00:03:31.440 Yeah, you've been doing comedy, because you were a surgeon.

00:03:34.740 A heart surgeon, yeah.

00:03:35.600 You were a heart surgeon.

00:03:36.380 Yeah.

00:03:36.620 That's crazy.

00:03:37.800 Hey, bro.

00:03:38.680 Why would you stop doing that?

00:03:40.200 Why would you?

00:03:41.440 No, why do it?

00:03:42.500 Because medicine is terrible.

00:03:44.180 It's a thankless job.

00:03:45.440 Is it?

00:03:45.900 Yes.

00:03:46.280 I spent 19 years of my life in medicine.

00:03:48.560 19 years of my life.

00:03:49.680 And I say in my show, I mean, you do that because that's what's expected of you in the Middle East.

00:03:56.280 In the Middle East, you're expected to be one of three things, a doctor, an engineer, or a disappointment.

00:04:01.040 So I didn't want to disappoint my parents.

00:04:03.180 So I went into medicine, and I went there for 19 years.

00:04:06.760 I didn't have any kind of aspirations.

00:04:09.160 It's like, what do you want to do?

00:04:10.100 I'm just going to do the regular stuff.

00:04:12.080 I wasn't the guy who's cracking jokes in class or anything.

00:04:16.440 Really?

00:04:17.060 No, nothing.

00:04:18.380 A regular guy.

00:04:19.860 Just a regular, boring guy.

00:04:21.300 Really?

00:04:21.660 Just a boring guy?

00:04:22.580 Very boring.

00:04:23.480 And then, so how do you realize that you're able to be a comedian then?

00:04:26.120 Because that's kind of-

00:04:26.940 I didn't.

00:04:27.740 You didn't think at all when you were a kid.

00:04:29.220 I didn't.

00:04:30.040 I didn't.

00:04:31.360 Revolution happened in Egypt, 2011.

00:04:33.800 And I just happened to be like a regular fan for Jon Stewart.

00:04:39.480 And so I watched Jon Stewart for years, and I had this dream of maybe I'll be a writer

00:04:45.160 on a similar show in Egypt.

00:04:46.840 So when the revolution happened, and I saw the kind of crazy stuff that they've been showing

00:04:53.000 on television.

00:04:54.300 So it's like the craziest conspiracy theories ever.

00:04:58.160 And that was a revolution in Egypt?

00:05:00.020 Yes.

00:05:00.820 So the states-run media was running all kinds of crazy stuff.

00:05:04.600 So I started doing YouTube videos, making fun of it.

00:05:07.520 Yeah.

00:05:08.060 Blew up.

00:05:09.520 And in two weeks, I had millions of views on my YouTube channel that I just opened.

00:05:15.300 I didn't even have a YouTube channel before that.

00:05:17.720 And then suddenly, every single platform, every single television station won me on the show.

00:05:23.200 Wow.

00:05:23.380 And now, do a show.

00:05:25.740 So I did a show, out of nothing.

00:05:27.440 And I hired people who were not in the business, people who were like amateurs, like me.

00:05:32.280 And it became the biggest show in the Middle East, and I had 40 million people watching

00:05:36.000 each episode.

00:05:36.820 Oh.

00:05:38.020 And so how does that end?

00:05:39.320 Did you just-

00:05:40.320 Oh, I was kicked out.

00:05:41.480 I had my show canceled a couple of times.

00:05:43.360 I had even the signal, the satellite signal jammed a couple of times.

00:05:46.900 I had lawsuits.

00:05:48.400 I had shows shut down.

00:05:51.060 People threatened around me.

00:05:52.320 I was threatened.

00:05:52.940 And then I, by both regimes.

00:05:55.560 I had, I went through three different regimes.

00:05:57.780 Oh, wow.

00:05:58.440 Military, Islamist military.

00:05:59.720 And then they, they, they, they both hated me.

00:06:03.180 And that's when it's you.

00:06:04.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:05.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:05.580 When you, when you, when you make fun of people and everybody hates us, it's like, okay, I

00:06:08.480 think you're doing the right thing.

00:06:09.600 And I couldn't do the show anymore.

00:06:11.340 So I escaped.

00:06:12.180 I left Egypt, 2014.

00:06:13.740 I came here into a very dark era.

00:06:18.040 I didn't know, you know, like I was everything.

00:06:20.600 And then I came here and I'm nothing, nobody.

00:06:23.140 And it was humbling.

00:06:24.600 Because I thought, hey, I have a good story.

00:06:26.760 I'm a doctor.

00:06:27.640 I did comedy.

00:06:28.780 I should come here and Hollywood should open its door.

00:06:31.140 Nothing.

00:06:31.600 Nobody cares about you.

00:06:32.520 Like, yeah, you were great in Egypt.

00:06:34.160 Now, we don't know what to do with you.

00:06:35.640 Yeah, so I, I think it's got to be a big transfer.

00:06:40.220 I think that's scary.

00:06:41.440 That would have to be one of the scariest things I think for a comic is going to another

00:06:44.780 country because the entire template of everything is different.

00:06:49.020 Like the, the pentameter of what's funny, like things that people know and don't know

00:06:54.100 references, all of that.

00:06:55.760 And then you're in a whole new space and Hollywood does not care really.

00:06:59.020 It's like you show up.

00:07:00.100 They don't care.

00:07:00.780 It doesn't matter.

00:07:01.460 And you have to understand, I was even a comedian who changed.

00:07:03.760 I just been there for three years.

00:07:06.440 I just left medicine, did a show out of nothing, became successful.

00:07:10.960 So I only had two, three years under my belt coming to America as an, as a comedian in

00:07:16.320 Arabic.

00:07:17.500 So I come here.

00:07:19.220 So I, I started doing standup comedy and I sucked so bad because it's my second language.

00:07:25.840 And also I did, it's not just the language, it's the rhythm, the music.

00:07:29.280 Each language has its pauses, its rhythm, its cadence.

00:07:32.460 And I, I would write stuff that would be intelligent, but I wouldn't deliver it right.

00:07:39.380 So I went into the years of darkness and the humiliation.

00:07:44.480 And that was here in the U S that's when you first started standup?

00:07:46.640 Yes.

00:07:47.100 Wow.

00:07:47.320 What was your first set at here?

00:07:48.420 Uh, I, uh, I did, um, I did something in, uh, oh, the improv, like open mic and it was terrible.

00:08:00.140 And, uh, I did a few open mics and then I, uh, I, but, but here's the thing, here's the trick.

00:08:05.620 What helped me is that I was someone with a good story.

00:08:07.940 So I didn't go into comedy the whole, the, the first, all, all, like right away.

00:08:12.700 I won a speaker series.

00:08:14.400 I'm like, ah, I came from the revolution, Egypt.

00:08:16.320 So I wouldn't go to talk to universities and stuff.

00:08:18.540 Like a talk.

00:08:19.240 A talk.

00:08:19.840 That's better.

00:08:20.040 And then with that talk, I would put jokes.

00:08:22.300 And then I was like, oh, I have a five minutes.

00:08:24.300 Let me try it.

00:08:25.020 And then I suck.

00:08:25.600 It's like, no, that's not the five minutes.

00:08:28.440 Now I have two minutes.

00:08:30.340 Yeah, yeah, two minutes.

00:08:31.100 So I would go back and forth, back and forth, back and went, went for years.

00:08:34.920 And when COVID hit, I still went on the road because I needed to have any time I can get.

00:08:40.760 So I'll go and I would play for five people, six people.

00:08:44.600 Uh, and, uh, it was funny that people knew me from Egypt, from my, my own country, Arabs

00:08:50.380 and Egyptians would know me.

00:08:52.060 It's like, and they would see my, see my name.

00:08:53.840 It's like, oh, we have to come and see Basim Yusuf.

00:08:55.580 Now in their mind is this guy with this huge show and they come and I'm a struggling comedian.

00:09:00.840 And I would see it on their faces.

00:09:02.960 They would say, oh, too bad.

00:09:05.820 Basim is a, is a has-been.

00:09:08.060 Maybe he'll be driving an Uber in three months.

00:09:10.680 Yeah, maybe this is how he'll make his money.

00:09:13.240 So it was very related for me.

00:09:15.980 And then two years ago, something happened.

00:09:18.960 Started to fill in spaces, places, have kind of a few sold out shows and it went well.

00:09:26.840 And last year I was actually talking about shooting my special already.

00:09:29.960 I was having interest and, uh, then October 7th happened and then I blew up because of

00:09:35.340 Piers Morgan and then more people came to me.

00:09:37.380 But here's the thing.

00:09:38.480 When I was, uh, complaining about not, not having enough people coming to me, I wasn't

00:09:45.040 ready yet.

00:09:45.780 Oh yeah.

00:09:46.420 After October 7th, now everybody knew who I am.

00:09:49.360 Yeah.

00:09:49.760 So they came to my show.

00:09:51.000 And you were a little more prepared.

00:09:51.900 If I was, if that, if the Piers Morgan thing happened, if that-

00:09:55.900 Two years earlier.

00:09:56.360 Two years later, I wouldn't be good enough at people who come and get disappointed.

00:09:59.680 Yeah.

00:10:00.040 So I think I took my time and I think I'm grateful for that.

00:10:04.600 Yeah.

00:10:04.800 It's funny.

00:10:05.240 You said about like your time and how it like, you think you have, I remember when

00:10:08.480 I first thought I had like five minutes, I'd be like, I'm like, guys, I'm doing, I got

00:10:11.740 five minutes, you know, calm down.

00:10:13.700 But then you realize if you have five minutes, you really only have like two minutes, you know,

00:10:17.000 it's like when it really, when you cook the fat down and kind of figure things out.

00:10:23.140 Yeah.

00:10:23.560 That Piers Morgan thing was huge for you.

00:10:25.560 Yes.

00:10:26.200 That was huge.

00:10:27.020 Came out of nothing.

00:10:28.000 Yeah.

00:10:28.200 Came out of nowhere.

00:10:29.580 A comedian friend of mine, Amir Kay, connected us and he works with me a lot on the road.

00:10:35.140 And this was absolutely, this was just so funny and insightful and ridiculous.

00:10:40.760 Yes.

00:10:41.700 Did you know it would have that big of an impact?

00:10:43.740 It has 22 million views.

00:10:44.840 Yes.

00:10:45.660 Yeah.

00:10:46.300 That's, I went into that and I was warned by everyone that I know that not to go on

00:10:53.720 the show.

00:10:54.180 Yeah.

00:10:54.920 Because at the time with October 7th, there was a certain story and a certain perception

00:11:01.340 and no one was allowed to talk outside of the perception.

00:11:03.960 It was all one sided.

00:11:06.380 And my wife is half Palestinian and her family in many of them are in Gaza.

00:11:12.400 And, and they were bombed.

00:11:14.020 And, and she lost many of her family members all through the years, but it became so natural

00:11:19.380 that Gaza gets, gets bombed that it's, it's, it's, it's crazy that this is a part of their

00:11:25.680 life.

00:11:25.940 So we don't even talk about it.

00:11:27.580 It's like, yeah, we don't, we don't, I don't even hear anyone about anybody of her family

00:11:32.120 until a bomb goes on.

00:11:34.400 And that's not just like the last eight months.

00:11:36.580 I'm talking about like years.

00:11:38.540 So, uh, when that happened and I saw there's, this is one sided and our, my side of the story

00:11:43.840 is not being allowed to talk, but nobody's is willing to listen because everybody was

00:11:48.660 hysterical.

00:11:49.560 So when he went in and he said like, how's everybody?

00:11:51.800 How's your family?

00:11:52.300 It's like, well, I know I tried to kill my wife, but she's using my kids as human shields.

00:11:56.340 So I use the same stuff that they're using because it, the, the way that they were justifying

00:12:02.820 the continuous attack was ridiculous.

00:12:05.560 One of them was by Ben Shapiro and even DeSantis.

00:12:08.180 He said, well, you know, Israel warns Palestinians before bombing them.

00:12:13.800 It's like, oh my God, how cute.

00:12:15.080 How, wow.

00:12:16.140 Wow.

00:12:16.840 Wow.

00:12:17.320 So, so like if, so if Putin warns Ukrainians, it's okay for Putin to bomb Ukraine because

00:12:22.320 as long as you warn them, that's fine.

00:12:23.940 And I, and I, and I find it like, and I said, and I thought like, I think Israel became so

00:12:27.680 effective of warning them that they actually be like warned them ahead of their funeral.

00:12:32.240 They actually been sending flowers to the funeral.

00:12:35.100 It's like a, we're very sorry for your upcoming loss.

00:12:37.760 We're going to be there in 10.

00:12:40.680 I mean, it's like, it's like, are you guys gaslighting us?

00:12:44.560 And then, and then I was hearing, oh, there's so many babies we kill, but we cannot help it.

00:12:51.060 What do you mean?

00:12:51.560 If you're the most funded, most advanced, most trained, most supported military in the

00:12:57.520 Middle East, and you can't help killing babies, maybe you can stick to your day job.

00:13:01.940 Maybe, maybe genocide is not the hobby for you.

00:13:05.100 It's just, so it kind of like drew, it was, for me, it, the, the, the, a justification just

00:13:13.060 drove me crazy.

00:13:13.980 So I took every single element that they were taking and I just regurgitated back to them.

00:13:17.780 Right.

00:13:17.960 And he said, so what should Israel do?

00:13:19.600 It's like, exactly what they did, kill more people.

00:13:21.640 Why not kill more?

00:13:22.640 Kill more because the whole idea, if you talk about ceasefire of please stopping the killing,

00:13:27.440 you have all kinds of arguments not to say, all right, let's do whatever you want, guys.

00:13:31.840 Yeah.

00:13:32.180 And then show them how ridiculous, because this is what comedy does.

00:13:35.400 That is the job of comedy.

00:13:36.740 Comedy doesn't counteract.

00:13:37.960 It's like, all right, let's see, let's see your idea.

00:13:40.200 And let's multiply by hundreds and see how that feels.

00:13:44.980 Because it is funny how the most crazy question that they asked me, remember that, Theo?

00:13:51.280 What's the proportion to response?

00:13:53.140 What's the proportion?

00:13:54.120 How many dead bodies can we get away with?

00:13:56.140 Yeah.

00:13:56.320 What's an evil?

00:13:56.880 What makes things fair?

00:13:58.180 What's a good number to kill?

00:14:00.060 It's like, I find it very interesting how the media suddenly is interested in calculus.

00:14:03.820 It's like, if one Hamas rocket equals 10 Israeli strikes, how many funerals can we plan for next week?

00:14:15.800 What is this?

00:14:17.240 What is this?

00:14:19.040 Are there people in Gaza that are consuming your content that are able, do you think it's bringing some relief?

00:14:25.460 Because I can only imagine.

00:14:26.920 If they have some internet.

00:14:28.040 Right.

00:14:28.240 Because you understand, Gaza is basically, it's sealed off.

00:14:32.320 Okay.

00:14:32.580 Even before October 7th, forever.

00:14:34.940 I love it how it was just like, ah, we left Gaza.

00:14:38.000 We're not occupying Gaza anymore.

00:14:39.860 Yes, but you're making an embargo of sea and water and land.

00:14:43.620 You cannot give five calories inside without going through the checkpoint.

00:14:48.160 So it is fine.

00:14:49.580 It was like, we're not occupying you, but we are locking you from outside.

00:14:53.800 So when they get internet, sometimes they do, and I get a lot of people supporting, and someone sent me a video that made me cry.

00:15:02.720 In the middle, after a bombing, they were like sitting, kids, and they were playing my video.

00:15:10.080 Somebody downloaded it, and they blamed my video on like an old television in the rubble, and that made me cry.

00:15:15.880 Oh, so yeah, just so my listeners know, because a lot of us, we're curious about Israel and Palestine.

00:15:21.680 You hear about it all the time, right?

00:15:22.820 But some of us, we don't even know like what's going on there, you know?

00:15:27.560 Because also a lot of the news you get, you're like, is this news even accurate, you know?

00:15:31.280 Like what filters is the news going through?

00:15:33.560 So what do you feel like is happening between Israel and Palestine?

00:15:39.100 What do you think is happening in Gaza?

00:15:40.300 Is that the question?

00:15:41.100 Yeah, it is a very complicated question.

00:15:43.760 Here is a question of the century.

00:15:45.360 What's happening there?

00:15:48.140 Well, I don't want to talk about October 7th, not just now, because things didn't start on October 7th.

00:15:55.600 Yes.

00:15:56.080 There is a country called Palestine that's been there, and in this piece of land, many people have went in and out, had kingdoms, have empires, have states, and they were like any other place in the world, right?

00:16:11.360 Yeah.

00:16:11.620 So very recently, and I would take as recently as like 150 years, there was a promise by the Jewish people in Europe to have a national state or a home in Palestine, which was very weird because if most of those Jews were in Europe, and they were persecuted by people in Europe, even before Hitler, there was pogroms all over.

00:16:36.320 There were what?

00:16:37.320 And there was pogroms, like kind of like mini holocausts, where they would like go persecute them, and they would like displace them.

00:16:45.820 Most Jews in Europe didn't have a good life in Europe, especially in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and Russia.

00:16:51.060 I didn't know that.

00:16:52.060 And yeah, they have pogroms, it's called pogroms all over.

00:16:57.660 They have been-

00:16:58.460 Pogroms?

00:16:59.460 Pogroms, pogrom, P-O-G-R-O-M-S.

00:17:01.720 Yeah, pogrom right here, an organized massacre of a particular ethnic group, in particular that of Jewish people in Russia or Eastern Europe, what you just said.

00:17:08.160 So they have been treated quite nasty in Europe for so many reasons.

00:17:12.720 Many of them can actually track it back to the whole sin of Jews killing Jesus.

00:17:18.420 And since then, the Catholic Church in Europe and many Christians in Europe have really dealt with Jewish people in a horrible way.

00:17:26.500 Yeah, well, you should have killed somebody else, I think, because they're going to hold that against you.

00:17:30.920 Some people are.

00:17:32.200 You should have killed whoever else was there.

00:17:34.120 Yes, exactly.

00:17:34.800 Or not Jesus, you know what I'm saying?

00:17:36.120 Yeah, I know.

00:17:36.720 I don't even know who did or where it was.

00:17:38.940 Was it like one of those murder mystery dinners or something like that?

00:17:43.360 No, because it was the new religion, and then there was the whole idea about Jews pushing the Roman ruler to crucify Jews.

00:17:51.840 But that doesn't matter, because you shouldn't kill anybody for the sins of their parents.

00:17:57.560 But anyways-

00:17:58.760 But they picked the wrong guy.

00:18:00.260 Yeah, I mean, they picked the son of God.

00:18:02.100 Yeah.

00:18:02.220 Now I also, but if you're going to aim, you got to aim high.

00:18:08.960 Can you imagine if like they're going with Jesus and then somebody's like, hey, he's been made.

00:18:15.100 Guys, he's a made man.

00:18:16.360 He's a made man.

00:18:17.340 He is the made man.

00:18:18.620 Let's kill the other guy.

00:18:19.600 Let's get this other guy.

00:18:20.640 So for years and years, it's not going well for them.

00:18:23.000 And then after First War I, there was a promise by the British government to the Jews to establish a home in Palestine.

00:18:31.660 Why did they pick Palestine?

00:18:33.160 Exactly.

00:18:33.900 Why?

00:18:34.880 Was there other options that they chose?

00:18:36.400 There was Argentina, Madagascar, and Uganda.

00:18:42.380 Ooh.

00:18:43.940 As a matter of fact, the British government gave the Jewish people about 8,000 acres in Uganda in order to start a home.

00:18:51.480 But it was difficult for the Jewish council at the time or the Zionist council at the time to bring people to go to Uganda or to Argentina.

00:19:00.400 It's like, no, the only way that we can do it is to send them to Palestine because it's the holy land.

00:19:05.160 It's the promised land.

00:19:06.600 So did they choose Palestine or the British people are?

00:19:10.440 Because this was after World War I.

00:19:11.560 It was like Britain and America.

00:19:13.360 Yeah.

00:19:13.840 In 1917, there's something called the Balfour Declaration, which was one of the British government who said,

00:19:19.620 we can give you the state of Palestine as your homeland.

00:19:24.280 Okay.

00:19:24.740 Bring that up, Nick.

00:19:25.580 Before 1917, it was there were many.

00:19:28.260 Yeah.

00:19:28.640 Balfour Declaration.

00:19:30.020 The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during the First World War,

00:19:34.660 announcing its support of the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine,

00:19:38.540 then an Ottoman region with a small minority of Jewish population.

00:19:42.860 I like your fact-checking everything, and it's coming great.

00:19:46.660 Well, I just, this is good because I always wonder some little things, and I know little things, but I don't know enough.

00:19:52.180 But before 1917, there was other trials with other options for the countries I told you.

00:19:58.280 And you know what's the kicker?

00:19:59.260 That's funny.

00:20:00.720 Many Orthodox Jewish rabbis objected for Palestine to be the homeland

00:20:06.980 because in their Jewish faith, we cannot have a land for Israel until the Messiah, the real Messiah,

00:20:13.560 because they don't believe in Jesus, their Messiah would come.

00:20:16.820 So they were a huge opposition for having a land of Israel in Palestine.

00:20:23.920 In Palestine because it was a...

00:20:25.700 Yeah.

00:20:26.140 Because it was a...

00:20:26.920 Because it was not the time yet.

00:20:30.040 It should wait until the Messiah to come, and then that will create the land of Israel.

00:20:35.660 Oh, I see.

00:20:36.460 So wherever the Messiah sewed up, that would be the land of Israel.

00:20:38.960 But the secular Zionists at the time, they said like, okay, how about like we build the land,

00:20:43.660 and that will force him to come.

00:20:45.060 So kind of like build it, and they will come.

00:20:46.720 How about that?

00:20:48.400 So you understand that?

00:20:49.320 Yeah, like field of dreams kind of.

00:20:51.180 So because here's the thing, because many of the people who talk about like Israelis being like a biblical promise,

00:20:55.600 even they were not having a consensus of what, where should we have.

00:21:00.940 So whoever tells you, oh, it's consensus, it's divine.

00:21:03.440 No, they even had problems deciding.

00:21:05.280 So anyways, and at that time, they, especially in the 1930s, after Hitler came to power,

00:21:11.760 there were like droves and droves and droves of Jewish Germans and Jewish Polish people,

00:21:16.240 and Jewish Russians.

00:21:16.840 And they were like having, they went into refugee boats, and they came to Palestine.

00:21:22.260 And you know why?

00:21:23.080 Because they were not granted visas by the United States.

00:21:25.960 They were not granted visas by other European countries.

00:21:28.960 Wow.

00:21:29.100 So a lot of Jewish, like German Jews, Polish Jews, they weren't granted visas by the West,

00:21:35.720 but they were by Palestine.

00:21:37.320 And Palestinians didn't have anything because it was a mandate by the British.

00:21:41.140 They were occupying that land, but they were Palestinian people.

00:21:43.660 So this became the myth of a land with no people to the people with no land.

00:21:49.060 And if you actually find that, you will actually find that thing.

00:21:53.620 This was one of the myths, a land with no people to the people with no land.

00:21:57.220 So they will tell people, hey, there was no people living there.

00:22:00.960 So it is ours.

00:22:02.160 It is just a desert, but it was never a desert.

00:22:05.580 There were like more than 1.2 million Palestinians living in that piece of land.

00:22:11.260 Before the Balfour Declaration.

00:22:12.120 Before the Balfour Declaration.

00:22:14.060 Then Jewish people coming in.

00:22:16.100 And then many of those Jewish European residents started to form militias and armed gangs.

00:22:24.700 The Haganah, the Ergon, the Shteyn.

00:22:29.920 Now were these Jewish people that had just been rescued from the Nazi Germany?

00:22:36.080 From Nazi Germany, yes.

00:22:36.900 Okay.

00:22:37.080 From the 1930s all the way to the Second World War.

00:22:39.480 So they started to move to Palestine, which is now Palestine and Israel.

00:22:43.240 What was it called at that point?

00:22:44.140 It was all called Palestine.

00:22:45.780 Palestine.

00:22:46.340 Even after Israel was given the land?

00:22:48.900 After given the promise.

00:22:50.500 The promise.

00:22:50.900 Because if you read it, it was giving a promise to make the land in the land of Palestine.

00:22:54.860 I see.

00:22:55.180 So even many of those Israelis had Palestinian passports.

00:22:58.720 So the land was called Palestine.

00:23:00.280 And there were Palestinian people living there.

00:23:02.140 1.2 million at least.

00:23:04.940 Fast forward.

00:23:05.840 I'm not going to go into so many details.

00:23:07.620 But I fast forward.

00:23:08.800 1948.

00:23:10.200 1947, 48.

00:23:11.420 There was like many wars happening.

00:23:13.740 Many wars happening.

00:23:14.580 Many attacks between the Palestinians and the Jews.

00:23:18.680 Because the Palestinians said, like, you're coming from Europe and you're taking our land.

00:23:21.500 It's like, no, this is our biblical land.

00:23:23.220 Now it's ours.

00:23:25.040 And those Jews were, like, supported pretty much by the British and the American.

00:23:30.080 And you think that's like, oh, we don't want them back.

00:23:32.220 So take all the weapons and stay there.

00:23:34.480 So, and then there were a declaration, a UN declaration, a partition.

00:23:39.320 It's called a partition, 1947.

00:23:41.480 And they gave the Jews, who were less than 30%, more than half of the land.

00:23:46.140 Okay.

00:23:46.320 And they gave the Jew, the Palestinians, who were much more, like 45, 49%.

00:23:51.920 And who did, who was helping dictate that?

00:23:53.920 Who was helping, not dictate it, but who was helping, like, facilitate it?

00:23:57.340 Well, after First, Second World War, after 1945, the British and the Americans were, like, kind of the world superpower.

00:24:04.180 Right.

00:24:04.340 So they were, at the time, I think it was-

00:24:06.940 They were running the chessboard.

00:24:07.620 I think it was Truman.

00:24:09.260 It was Truman in power who basically pushed.

00:24:12.720 And there's, like, a video, black and white video for Truman describing, like, we were trying to please everybody, but it was difficult because we were putting them people into other people's land.

00:24:24.320 And it's there in black and white.

00:24:25.440 So, so that, why I'm telling, giving this, because, yeah, these ideas, see, former President Henry Truman talks about generating power in the Middle East.

00:24:33.980 It is just like, if you watch them, especially the one in front of the map.

00:24:39.440 Yeah, the one in front of the map.

00:24:40.400 The two on the front of the map, you know?

00:24:43.980 Lloyd Anderson was one of them.

00:24:45.360 We had several other people in the country, even among the Jews, the Zionists particularly, who were against anything that was to be done if they couldn't have the whole of Palestine and everything handed to them on a silver plate so they wouldn't have to do anything.

00:25:00.320 It couldn't be done.

00:25:01.440 We had to take it in small doses.

00:25:03.440 You can't move five or six million people out of a country and fill it up with five or six million more and expect both sets of them to be pleased.

00:25:12.320 We had all sorts of-

00:25:14.360 So, you see, and I'm really talking about this because if you want to talk about October 17th, you need to talk about the basis because they will always get like a point of time.

00:25:25.580 The basis of this, this was a land of Palestinian people.

00:25:29.140 People from Europe came in and they started to import other Jews from other parts of Arab countries.

00:25:35.460 And they said, this is our land now for whatever biblical reason would it be because this doesn't make any sense.

00:25:40.400 This is like me coming into your podcast studio.

00:25:43.140 It's like, hey, my fortune cookie told me that this is mine now and I'm allowed to kill you.

00:25:47.780 I don't care about what your Bible or Torah or Quran tells you.

00:25:51.640 If you have a holy scripture, good for you, but that doesn't dictate political decision that can affect the lives of other people in the region.

00:25:59.660 So, this is exactly what happened.

00:26:01.080 And what drives me crazy is that we hear the whole idea about like the chosen people or the chosen people or the chosen people.

00:26:06.660 Okay, fine.

00:26:07.160 You think your chosen people, good for you.

00:26:08.800 Everybody think they're chosen.

00:26:10.060 Christians think they're chosen.

00:26:11.300 Muslims think they're chosen.

00:26:12.220 But what drives me crazy is the Christian Zionists, the pro-Israel Christian Zionists who say that they are chosen, that the Jews are chosen.

00:26:22.380 And I'm sorry to say, isn't Jesus your guy?

00:26:26.340 Are you in an open relationship?

00:26:27.780 Yeah, he was cool.

00:26:28.620 Are you in an open relationship?

00:26:30.840 Like, how come you believe in a religion, in a God, in a doctrine, but you believe that other people from another religion are chosen over you?

00:26:38.640 Don't you feel unchosen?

00:26:39.880 Right.

00:26:40.080 I mean, this is like a religious polygamy, right?

00:26:42.400 Are you cheating on Jesus?

00:26:44.500 Is this some sort of a religious FOMO?

00:26:46.620 It doesn't make any sense.

00:26:48.100 And I don't, and I'm sick and tired of this whole idea about chosen people.

00:26:50.480 What does it mean to be chosen?

00:26:51.580 Do you have a bottle service?

00:26:52.780 Yeah.

00:26:53.080 Do you have like a VIP lounge access?

00:26:55.020 Are you like in a waterfront condos?

00:26:56.860 And we were like back in the purgatory in our shitty timeshare.

00:27:00.000 It's great advertising, right?

00:27:01.640 I know.

00:27:02.300 It's really great advertising if you just say you're the chosen people.

00:27:05.440 How did that term come about, I wonder?

00:27:07.240 It was in their Bible, in their Torah.

00:27:12.000 But it's fine because everybody thinks they're chosen.

00:27:14.100 Everybody wants to think they're chosen.

00:27:14.960 That is the driving force of faith.

00:27:16.620 Right.

00:27:16.920 That I'm the only one in heaven and everybody's going to go to hell.

00:27:19.820 Yeah.

00:27:20.140 But I don't understand if they're saying that they're chosen, why the Christian Zionists believe that?

00:27:24.840 So what is a Zionist?

00:27:26.820 A Zionist, okay, there's a Zionist.

00:27:29.580 They would want you to believe that the Zionists simply believe that having a national statehood for Jewish people.

00:27:35.980 But that's more than that.

00:27:37.180 Zionist is...

00:27:39.660 Are Zionists Jewish or are they...

00:27:41.640 No, not necessarily because you can be Zionist and still Christian or a Zionist or an atheist because many of the pros...

00:27:50.860 That's why I don't say Jews.

00:27:52.580 I don't say...

00:27:53.520 I say pro-Zionist or pro-Israel because many of the people in Congress are Christians and they just believe in Zionism.

00:28:01.820 Zionism here, as we believe it from an Arab perspective, it is a colonial settling idea of ideology that is based on cleansing the whole group of people out of their land and you coming into...

00:28:14.620 If you want to have like a national state, that's fine.

00:28:18.720 But you understand they are building it on the state of other people.

00:28:21.560 You're coming in and you're doing it.

00:28:22.840 And just to give you a very, very small snippet of the magnitude of what happened, 1948, 15th of May, the day that Israel declared independence.

00:28:32.620 On that day, overnight, 750,000 Palestinians, three quarters of a million were displaced overnight.

00:28:42.120 Overnight.

00:28:42.940 Displaced from their village, displaced from their homes, displaced from their cities.

00:28:46.720 They were killing, raping.

00:28:48.720 They were burning, all kinds of things.

00:28:50.620 And you have documentaries where Israeli soldiers, they talk, braggingly talk about like the atrocities that they did and the rape and the women that they raped and all of that happened.

00:29:01.460 And was that...

00:29:03.120 Yeah, so this is a perfect example.

00:29:05.040 You see, this is 1946 Palestine.

00:29:07.320 This is old Palestine with a little of like Jewish spots here and there.

00:29:12.580 And this is the UN partition.

00:29:14.220 Suddenly, the UN gave all of that white space to Israel.

00:29:19.760 So the Palestinians are like, wait a minute, that doesn't work.

00:29:23.320 But how were they lobbying like the UN?

00:29:29.440 Is the UN the group that was doing it?

00:29:30.520 No, no, but you have to understand like UN has no power.

00:29:32.600 Okay, got it.

00:29:33.320 Who has the power?

00:29:34.100 America and England.

00:29:35.540 You understand that UN now or security, America runs the world.

00:29:40.680 Right.

00:29:40.780 So America is the superpower, especially after the Second World War.

00:29:43.820 They are the strongest country.

00:29:44.920 They are the strongest country ever.

00:29:45.840 They just like bomb, like drop two nuclear weapons or bombs.

00:29:50.240 Oh, yeah.

00:29:50.460 They had women playing baseball at that time.

00:29:52.080 And you have even Henry Truman's like, we tried, but like we're trying to do it, but it's difficult.

00:29:56.900 But it's hard.

00:29:57.300 This is, you see how it went from here to here in less than 50 years?

00:30:03.500 How now the Palestinian state, quote unquote state, have become just like islands and islands and islands.

00:30:10.500 And so you had 1.2 million.

00:30:13.260 Now you have, you see this little green thing?

00:30:15.560 You have more than 5 million Palestinians living there crushed into these little things.

00:30:21.440 Gaza, which is the little strip on the side, it has 2.2 million people.

00:30:25.600 And those 2.2 million people were not born in Gaza.

00:30:28.120 More than three quarters of them came from outside, but they were pushing them, pushing them, pushing them.

00:30:32.260 So we understand this is, this is the state now.

00:30:34.880 So the basis of all of this is occupation.

00:30:37.880 I see.

00:30:38.300 That's why when they tell you that Israel has the right to defend itself.

00:30:41.660 And people say that an occupying force has no right to defend itself as against the people that they occupy.

00:30:47.800 Say that again to me, Boston.

00:30:49.060 So if you are an occupying force, you have no right to defend yourself because you cannot, it's like, does the Nazi Germany has a right to defend itself against the French resistance?

00:30:59.880 You can't.

00:31:00.540 You went into their country.

00:31:01.840 Right.

00:31:02.260 With might and with force and with military.

00:31:05.300 You occupy them.

00:31:06.780 You get them.

00:31:07.620 And this is why, and I want to tell you, well, how come they, if you did October 7th, you should expect that, well, before October 7th, it's been going on and on and on.

00:31:15.740 Every single day, a Palestinian will wake up in the morning and an Israeli soldier or Israeli settler can go into their house, burn their house, take their house, kill them, take them as hostages, put them in prison, say that they are terrorists.

00:31:30.120 And a lot of people talk about the Israeli hostages.

00:31:33.920 You understand, but before October 7th, there are 5,000 Palestinian hostages in prisons.

00:31:40.360 One of every five Palestinian has been put in jail.

00:31:44.300 You understand?

00:31:44.900 So put that in perspective.

00:31:46.320 America has 330 million people.

00:31:49.880 Yeah.

00:31:50.440 So imagine.

00:31:51.680 Some people are missing.

00:31:52.620 How many people are missing?

00:31:53.520 300.

00:31:53.760 So imagine, if, imagine, imagine out of those, about 65 million Americans is in jail right now.

00:32:03.300 This is the reality of Palestinians.

00:32:06.740 So at a certain point, if I'm talking to people who are listening to us now, you have a farm, you have a land, you have, you have your, your, your, your cows, your hurdle, your family.

00:32:15.200 Imagine for 75 years, your house has no privacy.

00:32:21.960 Your, your, your, your family has no sanctity.

00:32:24.940 You can't go to sleep knowing that you're going to wake up and your house will be yours in the morning.

00:32:28.200 You go in, people take them being pushed out.

00:32:31.160 They take their land.

00:32:32.040 At a certain point, you have to break.

00:32:33.940 Yeah.

00:32:34.120 You have to snap.

00:32:35.020 So you're saying that what happened on October 7th is just a buildup of a long series of things.

00:32:39.960 That's just a pinpoint.

00:32:40.660 And it's, and it's not new.

00:32:42.160 I know a lot of people say like, I'll give an example, 2014, exactly 10 years ago in Gaza, 2,200 Palestinians were killed, dead, 500 children killed.

00:32:50.880 There was no October 7th.

00:32:52.420 You understand?

00:32:52.960 There was no October 7th.

00:32:53.940 Right.

00:32:54.280 But they go in because it's, and I gave this example to Chris Cuomo once.

00:32:57.900 It's like, Israel is like, Palestine, Gaza and, and West Bank is like a small fishbowl.

00:33:04.900 And you have the power to go into this fishbowl and you just like, like kick the shit out of those fish anytime you want.

00:33:13.120 At a certain point, one fish will be crazy enough, suicide enough to jump from the fishbowl and, and bite your, with your pinky.

00:33:19.980 That's October 7th.

00:33:20.780 Yeah.

00:33:21.080 So you're going, oh, I'm going to destroy.

00:33:22.380 It's already destroyed.

00:33:23.780 Yeah.

00:33:24.100 You're creating piranhas.

00:33:25.180 You understand, you understand that in, in just eight months, Israel have bombed Gaza more than America has bombed Pakistan, Iraq for eight years.

00:33:35.300 Wow.

00:33:35.800 In eight months.

00:33:37.060 You, you, you, you don't do that.

00:33:39.400 You don't do that.

00:33:40.240 And of course they tell you, oh, it's collateral damage, which crazy, right?

00:33:43.700 It's like, oh, those people that died, this collateral damage.

00:33:46.680 We really wanted to take that terrorist, but the school got in the way.

00:33:50.120 I mean, the, the geography is very hostile.

00:33:52.100 Every time we kill Hamas, they just like, schools and, and babies come out of nowhere.

00:33:59.300 It's like, it's like, I shouldn't be laughing at this.

00:34:01.400 I know.

00:34:01.960 I mean, it's dark because sometimes I feel that Israel has some sort of a program called No Civilian Left Behind.

00:34:07.300 You know, it's like, it doesn't matter if you're a little kid playing soccer or a Hamas terrorist, you get a piece of the action.

00:34:15.580 It's like, you understand.

00:34:17.380 Yeah, it's like favored nations.

00:34:18.620 Because I, as an Arab, I have no power.

00:34:20.940 I haven't, I'm not powerful as the United States.

00:34:23.160 I'm not powerful as Israel.

00:34:24.000 So all I have to do is just like laugh at this.

00:34:26.380 Right.

00:34:26.520 Because that doesn't, that, that doesn't work.

00:34:28.420 So back to 1948, they displaced 75, it's like 750,000 people and they continue to occupy the land every single day.

00:34:36.300 So you said that in 1948, what was that movement called?

00:34:38.960 And that was just like in one day it kind of happened?

00:34:40.720 Yeah, that's the, that is the establishment of the state of Israel, 1948, 15th of May, 1948.

00:34:46.120 Okay, and so when Israel established itself and were they, or is Israel able to establish itself by itself or did they have to have like support from Britain and America or?

00:34:55.620 Well, Israel didn't establish itself over one day.

00:34:58.760 Right.

00:34:58.880 And they've been doing, they were like having like pushing people into it from other countries and, and, and actually they had a lot of support from England and from, from America.

00:35:11.160 And, and, and, and I find it very interesting how that Israelis make, made Americans think that terrorism is something that has been invented by Arabs or Muslims.

00:35:21.480 Because if you talk to anybody, terrorism, oh, Arabs, Muslims, you know that the first terrorist attack ever in the Middle East was carried out by Israel.

00:35:30.120 1946 in July, Israel bombed King David Hotel, killing 91 British soldiers.

00:35:36.700 91.

00:35:37.100 That is the, that is the, that is the, and it was led by a stern gang, which is Itzhak Shamir, who was, later became the prime minister of Israel.

00:35:46.200 So, they have been killing people, they have been terrorizing people all through, and then they called Palestinians terrorists.

00:35:53.420 And when that, so when that one day comes the establishment of Israel as a country, is it like a certain, at that day, is there just like a mass where everybody has to move out of this space and this is ours and this is yours?

00:36:03.080 They basically move them into, if you go get back the map, they move them into the West Bank and in, in, in, in Gaza.

00:36:07.820 Okay.

00:36:08.140 And then in that map that we've been, yeah, in, you see the third one?

00:36:12.100 Yeah.

00:36:12.460 Yeah.

00:36:12.600 So now, all of the Palestinians are into this.

00:36:15.780 1967, we go to war with Israel, Egypt goes to war, get its ass kicked because we had Nasser messing up big time.

00:36:22.900 And 1967, Egypt went to war?

00:36:24.940 Yeah, with, with, and then Israel.

00:36:26.740 With who?

00:36:27.100 With Palestine?

00:36:27.600 With Israel.

00:36:28.260 With Israel.

00:36:28.680 With Israel.

00:36:28.940 And then now, and then after that, Israel could actually completely control the West Bank and in Gaza.

00:36:34.080 I see.

00:36:34.340 So now, this is under, so what you could see in all of these green marks is an occupation.

00:36:40.800 And let me say it again, it's an occupation.

00:36:43.560 Got it.

00:36:43.780 It's a military force that is occupying people and it is an occupation because of a land that has been disintegrated from this to this.

00:36:52.620 So was, so you're saying that the, it wasn't, the, the occupation, it was by force, it was never by like agreement.

00:37:01.140 Yeah.

00:37:01.300 How can you agree to, is there a lease?

00:37:03.900 Like, what does the lease say?

00:37:05.300 The what?

00:37:05.740 The lease.

00:37:06.680 The lease?

00:37:08.680 There's no lease when you occupy, what did the lease say in France when Nazi came in, when Nazi came in and took over your land?

00:37:15.060 You have nothing to say.

00:37:16.520 You have, you have people coming in with the, most Jewish people I know are landlords, you know?

00:37:20.460 So it's like, I can't imagine they would do this without a lease.

00:37:24.660 Well, if you have an army next to you, why would you need a lease?

00:37:27.700 Because, because till today, till today, like you have, go into the internet and find just like, uh, Israeli settlers, uh, uh, uh, terrorizing, uh, uh, uh, Palestinian farmers.

00:37:40.760 Just random thing.

00:37:41.860 You have like a hundred videos.

00:37:43.160 Happens every single day.

00:37:44.380 So, and this is why I'm talking because everybody is focused on this little strip, on the Gaza Strip.

00:37:49.600 Yeah.

00:37:49.900 But people don't know what is happening in those green scattered.

00:37:54.000 This is happening every single day.

00:37:55.940 Every single day, people, by the way, the, uh, the, the hostages are not 5,000 people anymore.

00:38:01.760 After October 7th, it's now 12,000 people.

00:38:04.000 12,000 Palestinians in prisons.

00:38:06.300 Wow.

00:38:06.520 In prisons.

00:38:07.620 So when, when you talk about hostage and, and, and I just want to get people back October 7th, when Hamas did this, and I'm not defending Hamas, I'm not into any kind of support of any group.

00:38:18.080 But they said, we will release the hostage if you release our hostages, because you have been going into our houses and taking people, half of the people, the 5,000 people that I told you about, half of them are women and children.

00:38:28.580 Wow.

00:38:29.160 Half of them.

00:38:29.780 So, and, and then they, they, and I'll just give you an example, because I know what would people tell you.

00:38:34.560 Oh, but these are terrorists.

00:38:35.740 I'll give you an example of a terrorist.

00:38:37.960 Uh, Suad Zuraykat, she is a Palestinian mother.

00:38:40.580 Wait, so you have to say it slower.

00:38:41.880 Suad Zuraykat.

00:38:42.980 Suad Zuraykat.

00:38:44.040 She's a Palestinian mother.

00:38:45.880 Her, her, her husband was killed.

00:38:48.560 And then she wrote on Facebook, may God unite us in heaven.

00:38:52.120 The Israeli, uh, uh, authority considered that as an incitement for terrorism.

00:38:57.320 And they took her and they put her in detention for eight months.

00:39:00.120 Wow.

00:39:00.300 That's the kind of people that they will take you for terrorism.

00:39:03.160 All right.

00:39:03.740 And, and I'm not saying that there is violence, but put yourself in their place.

00:39:07.500 Your house is being taken.

00:39:08.800 Your farms are being burned.

00:39:09.960 Your cattle is being killed.

00:39:11.280 Your, your, your kids are being taken in front of you.

00:39:13.560 Your, your woman, your husband, your wife may be even raped and taken away and sexually molested.

00:39:20.640 Yeah.

00:39:20.900 How long can you keep going?

00:39:23.280 Because, because, but we want peace.

00:39:25.280 This is not a peace.

00:39:26.260 This is subjugation.

00:39:27.320 So you're saying that over time, it's like a slow devouring of, of the Palestinian people

00:39:32.380 is kind of what's happened.

00:39:33.320 Yeah.

00:39:33.600 Yeah.

00:39:33.840 It is devouring.

00:39:34.580 It's the, as you said, they devour the land.

00:39:36.760 They devour, devour their lives.

00:39:38.520 They have, they are dehumanizing.

00:39:39.940 And when you, when you fight back, you're called a terrorist.

00:39:43.060 Now let's go back to October 7th, because this is very important.

00:39:47.120 October 7th, Hamas, which is a militant group that is living in Gaza, that has won the election

00:39:53.420 in 26, to 2006, but they were never allowed to take power because Israel started bombing

00:39:58.660 them.

00:39:59.360 Okay.

00:39:59.540 So Hamas was actually an elected group.

00:40:01.860 Yeah.

00:40:02.320 Okay.

00:40:02.720 Yeah.

00:40:02.900 And when they ran for election, what were they, were they like?

00:40:06.020 They were, they were, they were, they were running as a group.

00:40:08.440 I mean, Hamas was, Hamas is a, they don't like the, the Palestinian authority that was

00:40:13.080 already there.

00:40:13.740 They didn't like them.

00:40:14.440 They didn't like them.

00:40:15.100 So they, and, and Israel, Netanyahu was so happy with that.

00:40:18.840 And they started to give money to Hamas in order to bolster them and make them stronger.

00:40:23.980 And he said in the Likud party, in his, in his party, he said, the only way to prevent

00:40:29.340 a Palestinian state is to make the Palestinian factions fighting the whole time.

00:40:34.060 He said that.

00:40:34.840 So he created a monster.

00:40:36.660 So he, he saw that.

00:40:38.060 So you're saying that Netanyahu, who is the president of Israel.

00:40:42.060 Yeah.

00:40:42.380 Or the prime minister.

00:40:43.140 He saw that, okay, there's this alternative group, Hamas, who that, who is causing conflict

00:40:51.360 with the people who are in charge in Palestine.

00:40:53.260 And so I'm going to fund Hamas.

00:40:55.140 Yes.

00:40:55.540 And, and Hamas was, I wouldn't say that they were moderate.

00:40:58.080 They would say like, we want to eradicate Israel, whatever.

00:41:00.680 And then they, they kind of revised their charter, but they weren't fun, like fun, like fans

00:41:06.600 of each other.

00:41:07.900 But, and did Israel definitely fund them?

00:41:10.040 They, they, you have, you have Netanyahu on tape, actually confessing, facilitating their,

00:41:18.260 their support many times.

00:41:20.920 And you can, you can look it up if you want.

00:41:22.500 Like, it's like, what, what I'm trying, what I'm trying to say is they, they won the election

00:41:27.260 to 2006 and they, Israel didn't like it.

00:41:30.520 And then they started bombing and then Israel.

00:41:32.000 Who won?

00:41:32.500 Hamas?

00:41:33.440 Hamas won by 51%.

00:41:35.100 Okay.

00:41:35.460 In Gaza.

00:41:35.960 But then they were like infighting and it didn't work.

00:41:39.800 And then they, Israel kind of like created even a bigger embargo.

00:41:43.580 And then the, for the past like 20 years, they're just like been going, every time Hamas

00:41:48.320 like retaliates, Israel retaliates and they retaliate and they retaliate.

00:41:52.540 But who has the power?

00:41:53.400 Who has the military?

00:41:54.120 Mike, it's Israel.

00:41:54.820 At the end of the day, it's militants.

00:41:56.640 Oh yeah.

00:41:56.940 Israel is a, is a superpower.

00:41:58.700 Yeah.

00:41:58.860 So you cannot just like cry, oh, we, we're going to perish because of a militant group.

00:42:04.180 If we're giving you that money, we, that doesn't work this way.

00:42:07.940 But here's what I want to talk about, which is the most important thing about October 7th,

00:42:13.820 which I find there is like a big failure of the American media.

00:42:18.000 When October 7th happened, everybody was talking about raping women, decapitating children,

00:42:23.980 putting women in the oven.

00:42:25.060 And even Antony Blinken, the state, the secretary of state, he went into Congress and he described

00:42:29.880 this scene about the Hamas militants going into a house, raping the woman, blinding the

00:42:36.160 father, cutting the limb of a child, cutting a finger of another child, and then cutting

00:42:41.780 the chest, the breast of a woman and playing football with it and raping it.

00:42:46.980 And I said, wait a minute, how is this happening during war?

00:42:51.900 Where are the Israeli Apache fighters?

00:42:54.020 Where are, where are the response?

00:42:56.280 Because, you know, I understand how big is Israel.

00:42:58.060 Israel is like as small, actually as small as New Jersey.

00:43:01.680 And in that area of New Jersey, there is like, there is a, yeah, you see, you see, it's almost

00:43:09.340 there.

00:43:09.660 Wow, it's the same.

00:43:10.220 Yeah, almost there.

00:43:10.980 Yes, a little bit.

00:43:11.960 And you understand, you understand, Israel has, has, has, has airfields and military camps

00:43:19.540 in every five seconds.

00:43:20.700 It's like Starbucks in New York.

00:43:22.000 Yeah.

00:43:22.760 The response should be less than five minutes.

00:43:24.940 Yeah.

00:43:25.100 It took them eight hours.

00:43:26.080 Yeah.

00:43:26.200 I need a Venti missile.

00:43:27.160 Now, that, that, that testimony that I just gave you by Anthony Blinken came out to be

00:43:33.740 wrong.

00:43:34.280 Who's Anthony Blinken?

00:43:35.080 Anthony Blinken is the Secretary of State.

00:43:36.780 For Israel?

00:43:37.580 No, for America.

00:43:38.440 For America.

00:43:38.860 Okay.

00:43:39.060 So, he went and gave that graphic detail in order to bring money, to get money to send

00:43:44.300 to, to be sent to Israel.

00:43:45.880 These testimonies came out to be untrue, false, fabricated, because they were promoted by rescue

00:43:53.880 groups in Israel.

00:43:55.200 They're called Zaka and Hadzullah United.

00:43:57.900 Zaka, Z-A-K-A.

00:43:59.660 Zaka is a group that has been known to be lying.

00:44:02.860 They fabricated babies in oven, babies in laundry lines.

00:44:06.460 Yeah.

00:44:06.660 They keep putting the babies everywhere.

00:44:08.080 No matter what side you're on, it's like, oh, the babies are here.

00:44:11.020 And, and yeah, that's, that's the website.

00:44:12.900 And if you, if you look, if you look at, if you, if you, if you search, if you search for

00:44:17.100 them, you will find that their lies has been debunked many times by the Israeli media themselves.

00:44:22.920 Israeli media, artists, channel 12.

00:44:26.260 They said that these people have lied to us and they have collected so much money because

00:44:30.980 of the graphic details.

00:44:32.260 And you understand, these are lies that has been repeated by Biden, Antony Blinken, the

00:44:36.860 state department in order to justify the absolute maximum killing of Israel to pass.

00:44:43.240 So this was made on a lie.

00:44:45.220 So it's propaganda.

00:44:46.000 Yeah.

00:44:46.180 It's propaganda because, you know, I'm not going to tell you, they killed a million people.

00:44:51.220 They raped women.

00:44:53.080 They decapitated babies that have a much more.

00:44:55.980 Right.

00:44:56.460 Stronger effect because what a baby could do to you.

00:44:59.600 Baby could do nothing.

00:45:00.420 And then you decapitate him.

00:45:03.320 You must be a monster.

00:45:04.440 So now these are monster death cult worshipers that we can kill and we can bomb everybody.

00:45:09.660 You see that?

00:45:10.200 So it's a perspective.

00:45:11.120 You're like framing it.

00:45:12.140 And so you're saying, but who's doing that?

00:45:13.440 The Israeli media.

00:45:14.380 Yeah.

00:45:14.500 Yeah.

00:45:14.560 The Israeli media.

00:45:15.360 The Israeli media, because all of the, and not just the Israeli media, the American media

00:45:18.440 have propagated these stories and they have never taken back or refuted a single story.

00:45:23.620 Oh, American media is not good.

00:45:25.200 And you know, and what made me like go crazy?

00:45:28.580 The Israeli media, they made themselves like, guys, this didn't happen.

00:45:31.240 So this is like the strongest bro code I've ever seen in my life.

00:45:34.240 It's like, you know, you're lying for your bro and your bro's like, dude, that didn't happen.

00:45:39.140 That didn't happen.

00:45:40.000 So America is lying hard for Israel, while Israel itself, the Israeli media said, guys, that didn't happen.

00:45:46.240 All of these lies didn't happen.

00:45:47.760 The New York Times article screams without words was debunked to be lies.

00:45:52.260 There was so many people, lies, lies, lies.

00:45:55.120 No decapitated babies were found.

00:45:56.680 Only one baby was killed.

00:45:57.840 Her name is Mila Cohen.

00:45:58.800 She's 10 months old and she was died during an exchange.

00:46:01.140 No decapitated babies.

00:46:02.540 No rape women.

00:46:03.820 Sheryl Sandberg and New York Times have spread all of these lies and they were debunked many, many times.

00:46:08.780 And still the American media are running with the lies.

00:46:11.960 But America, a lot of American media is...

00:46:14.840 If you say that, that would be anti-Semitic.

00:46:16.500 So I'm not going to go there.

00:46:17.680 Right?

00:46:17.980 Oh, is that anti-Semitic?

00:46:18.760 They're telling me everything that I say now is anti-Semitic.

00:46:22.440 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:46:22.860 But I'm saying that even the Jewish people in Israel telling you these are lies.

00:46:26.900 Well, my friends, my Jewish friends who, they say that.

00:46:30.800 They say that the media is mostly run by Jewish folks.

00:46:33.840 I don't think that that's...

00:46:35.280 It is.

00:46:35.840 They told me that.

00:46:37.000 It is.

00:46:37.560 It is.

00:46:37.920 All of the corporates, all of the CEOs, but that's a different thing.

00:46:40.620 But I don't want to go into their intention.

00:46:42.920 I'm just giving you a case that it didn't have...

00:46:45.100 But we can't say that though?

00:46:47.000 Well, according to a bill that was passed by the Congress two months ago,

00:46:50.980 there is now an anti-Semitic bill that anything, any criticism to Israel

00:46:55.420 will be counted as anti-Semitic.

00:46:57.720 Any criticism to Jewish people who might have a dual loyalty to Israel and America,

00:47:03.940 if you attack them, that will be called anti-Semitic.

00:47:06.380 If you talk about AIPAC controlling the elections and giving money,

00:47:10.280 that's anti-Semitic.

00:47:11.060 And I say, wait a minute.

00:47:11.980 That's against the First Amendment of the United States.

00:47:13.880 Because I have grown up seeing people shitting on everything,

00:47:20.020 on the American president, on religion, on Jesus Christ.

00:47:23.580 Oh, yeah.

00:47:23.660 Gays, whites, blacks.

00:47:25.460 Jesus, whites, Muslims.

00:47:27.800 But when you...

00:47:28.480 Santa.

00:47:28.800 But suddenly when you talk about Israel, which is a foreign country that we give aid,

00:47:32.240 you can't speak?

00:47:33.240 You can't talk about...

00:47:34.400 You're labeled anti-Semitic?

00:47:36.360 Why?

00:47:36.600 Yeah, I gotta...

00:47:38.160 Yeah, some of it's like...

00:47:40.660 Well, we had Roseanne Barr on She's Jewish.

00:47:45.420 She said something...

00:47:46.260 She made a joke and our episode got taken down.

00:47:48.800 But if she made it, it was obviously like a joke, you know?

00:47:51.720 Like, so some of it's just confusing because here's the thing I don't understand.

00:47:56.440 Like, just say if you can't say...

00:47:58.680 If we're not allowed to say something, at least tell us what it is.

00:48:01.580 No, we're not.

00:48:02.080 They always keep you in this kind of fear of saying something wrong.

00:48:05.980 And they have all of their...

00:48:06.900 You're anti-Semitic or anti-Semitic.

00:48:07.960 It's like, guys, like, you have to stop this anti-Semitic because...

00:48:10.640 Well, it becomes this boy that cried wolf kind of thing where it's like you accuse everybody

00:48:14.060 of...

00:48:14.200 Of anti-Semitic.

00:48:14.600 It's like, dude, I have so many Jewish friends.

00:48:16.140 You think I'd be...

00:48:16.960 I'm not...

00:48:18.560 I don't like Netanyahu.

00:48:19.600 I don't like some of the choices that I feel like that that country makes.

00:48:22.500 But I don't...

00:48:24.500 I don't have anything against my Jewish friends, though.

00:48:28.720 That's why I'm very careful when I talk.

00:48:30.220 I never say Jewish people.

00:48:31.280 I say pro-Zionist, Zionist, Israel, pro-Israel.

00:48:35.180 Oh, shit.

00:48:35.700 I said Jewish people all a few minutes ago.

00:48:36.900 No, no, no.

00:48:37.380 No, no.

00:48:37.940 I don't say about Israel because I know that a lot of Jewish people don't like what Israel

00:48:41.460 is doing.

00:48:42.160 I know that a lot of Jewish people don't like how they control the Congress.

00:48:45.400 I don't like how...

00:48:46.360 A lot of Jewish people that don't like how AIPAC, which is a foreign lobby, and yet is

00:48:50.460 allowed to operate under American local law, that they can openly brag about buying

00:48:57.540 Congress seats.

00:48:59.760 If you go into AIPAC Twitter account or X account, they would brag about how 98% of

00:49:07.880 our candidates...

00:49:08.280 Do not accept all cookies if you go over there.

00:49:10.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:11.020 Like, go to their...

00:49:12.720 No, not network.

00:49:14.580 AIPAC.

00:49:15.140 Just...

00:49:15.500 Yeah, AIPAC.

00:49:16.120 It's A-I-P-A-T.

00:49:18.680 A-I, A-I-P-A-T-A-I, A-I, A-I.

00:49:23.680 Yes.

00:49:24.560 And AIPAC...

00:49:25.080 No, no, no, no, tracker.

00:49:26.160 Yeah, AIPAC.

00:49:26.660 Yeah, that's one.

00:49:27.240 Yes.

00:49:27.500 And what is AIPAC?

00:49:28.340 American-Israel Public Affairs Committee.

00:49:31.200 Yeah, Public Affairs.

00:49:32.060 Yeah, Public Affairs.

00:49:33.160 So go down, go down, and see what they talk about the elections.

00:49:37.260 When they talk about the elections, they always talk about, like, they end it with, yeah,

00:49:45.140 another great...

00:49:45.840 Being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics.

00:49:48.380 They end that with every...

00:49:49.920 100% of ABAC and Dutch Democrats won their primary rate, 100%.

00:49:52.960 How is, like, a foreign country, like a lobby that works for a foreign country, brags about

00:50:00.800 buying your elections like that?

00:50:02.920 It is...

00:50:03.680 You see, being pro-Israel is good policy and good policy, and every single tweet is like

00:50:09.000 that.

00:50:09.240 They are basically looking to you in the eyes and say, like, we're buying your elections

00:50:12.620 and you can't do anything about it.

00:50:14.500 So I can accept that from NRA, because the NRA is a domestic group, right?

00:50:19.040 At least it presents the interest of American gun owners.

00:50:26.880 Oh, this is a very...

00:50:29.920 Oh, I just saw this guy recently.

00:50:31.240 And Massey, who said, like, each one in Capitol Hill has an AIPAC handler.

00:50:36.840 It's like, I need to talk to my guy.

00:50:38.680 Everybody but me has an AIPAC person.

00:50:41.160 What does that mean, an AIPAC person?

00:50:42.520 It's like your babysitter, your AIPAC babysitter, who is always talking to you for AIPAC.

00:50:53.440 It's just kind of like having an agent or whatever.

00:50:55.440 Yeah, but, like, handle it.

00:50:58.240 Go ahead.

00:50:58.880 Go continue.

00:51:00.020 And I don't understand why every American politician have to go there and bend the knees.

00:51:04.040 And when they come to DC, you go have lunch with them.

00:51:05.920 And they've got your cell number.

00:51:07.820 And you have conversations with them.

00:51:11.700 Well, I think part of this...

00:51:13.040 I'll talk to my AIPAC person, and it's clearly what we call them, my AIPAC guy.

00:51:18.420 I'll talk to my AIPAC guy and see if I can get him to, you know, dial those ads back.

00:51:24.680 Group of Americans who lobby on behalf of Israel.

00:51:28.720 They're for anything...

00:51:29.460 But I think also, it's like, you have to look at it as, like, we live in a country that is a capitalism, right?

00:51:37.420 Absolutely.

00:51:37.880 And they are...

00:51:39.260 Like, Israel just does...

00:51:40.420 They're the best business people, you know?

00:51:42.600 They're like...

00:51:43.680 It's almost like monopoly, and they won.

00:51:46.160 Okay.

00:51:46.480 You know?

00:51:46.900 That's what I feel like sometimes, like...

00:51:49.280 Yeah, they won.

00:51:50.440 And good for them.

00:51:51.180 They're very good.

00:51:52.000 But, like, how does an American feel?

00:51:54.320 Right, but you can't hold it against them because they are good at this...

00:51:57.200 Like, you can't hold it against them because they won, right?

00:52:00.000 So, you cannot hold it against Israel, but you hold it against Russia if they try, or China if they try.

00:52:05.300 So, why do we accept it from Israel, but not from Russia?

00:52:07.880 Except what?

00:52:08.980 Except them controlling the elections.

00:52:11.620 You understand?

00:52:12.380 So, you have an AIPAC, which is a lobby, basic lobbying for another country.

00:52:20.840 They...

00:52:21.240 This is in the news, and you can look it up.

00:52:23.140 They paid $100 million in order to buy seats for congresspeople and senates.

00:52:30.240 And because of the people they were able to put there, they were able to approve $26 billion to Israel.

00:52:36.920 So, understand.

00:52:37.580 As an American, your politicians are being bought for $100 million, and because of that, your country will send $26 billion to a different country.

00:52:48.740 $26 billion that could have been spent in my own country, in my own community.

00:52:53.260 This is the biggest, the best return of investment ever.

00:52:56.900 You pay $100 million, and I take back $26 billion from you.

00:53:00.000 That's crazy.

00:53:00.740 Yeah.

00:53:00.900 And this is why, when I talk about what's happening, is I'm not even...

00:53:04.500 You see, like, oh, yeah, you've missed that.

00:53:07.600 What you just had, AIPAC targets progressive with $100 million in its coffers.

00:53:11.840 Yeah.

00:53:12.240 So, basically, anybody who talks against you in Congress, you pay...

00:53:17.900 Basically, you pay them out, and then you take more money.

00:53:22.180 Don't we, as Americans, deserve the $26 billion to be put in our communities?

00:53:27.660 Oh, I think it's like, this is, we give them money, but they control us?

00:53:33.100 Yeah.

00:53:33.500 This is like...

00:53:34.340 Oh, it's fucking...

00:53:35.100 They're good at their business, dude.

00:53:36.180 This is like a sugar daddy who's being slapped around like a bitch from his sugar baby.

00:53:43.940 This is like, there's like basically picking up a whore in the strip mall, in the strip in Las Vegas,

00:53:49.380 and then suddenly she's in charge of your life.

00:53:52.660 This is like having a dominatrix and stuff like, it's like, I'm going to kick your balls,

00:53:56.440 and you're going to like it, and you're going to pay me $26 billion for it.

00:54:00.220 It's like, that doesn't work, because I come from the Middle East, and I'm used to dictatorship.

00:54:05.700 I am used for us having no voice.

00:54:08.060 I'm used to a certain class of people controlling the country.

00:54:11.880 But even then, we knew that these people are not in control, because they had to answer

00:54:16.800 for China or Russia or America or France, right?

00:54:20.140 Yeah.

00:54:20.420 Because we're a dictatorship.

00:54:21.180 This is how dictatorship works.

00:54:22.660 A democracy-loving country like America or Britain go control a certain country,

00:54:28.180 and it's easier for them to deal with a dictator.

00:54:30.060 So we knew that they were not calling the shots.

00:54:32.140 It was called from Washington.

00:54:33.800 I'm fine with that, because I'm a third world guy.

00:54:35.920 We're from the Middle East.

00:54:37.260 We have to follow the masters of this planet.

00:54:40.100 Now, I came to America, and I became an American.

00:54:42.720 I thought I was like joining, I'm joining the winning team.

00:54:46.840 I will have a say in my country, and then suddenly my country,

00:54:50.160 the most powerful country in the world, the superpower in the world has its policies being dictated

00:54:54.660 from Tel Aviv.

00:54:55.360 How does it work?

00:54:56.680 You see?

00:54:57.740 And it's fine.

00:54:59.060 And I ask Americans, guys, are you used to this kind of humiliation?

00:55:02.780 You're supposed to be like from a country for the people, by the people,

00:55:06.520 and then suddenly your elections and being dictated by a different country.

00:55:10.060 How does it work?

00:55:11.020 But to me, the thing is just like making it, is it true or not?

00:55:16.520 It's like, just tell me what's happening.

00:55:19.200 I just told you.

00:55:19.980 Right.

00:55:20.400 So whatever I, I just told you that like a foreign lobby from a foreign country is controlling

00:55:25.320 your politics right in front of you.

00:55:27.160 And then you have, and by the way, I understand how lobby works.

00:55:31.660 Because, but remember when Democrats was giving shit to Republicans,

00:55:36.400 where they're having so much money from NRA, right?

00:55:39.120 Oh, you're taking money from the gun lobby.

00:55:41.580 How dare you?

00:55:42.160 And then the Republicans were making, were attacked there.

00:55:45.320 You're taking money from tech.

00:55:46.940 Israel is the only country that gives both sides and nobody questions.

00:55:51.820 So basically it's not, caring about the education will not get you elected.

00:55:56.720 Caring about healthcare will not get you elected.

00:55:59.960 Caring about the wellbeing of your American constituents will not get you elected.

00:56:03.760 It is caring about what's good for Israel.

00:56:06.120 So yes, guys, our neighborhood is shit.

00:56:07.920 We have no sewage, no education, but God bless Israel.

00:56:11.400 It doesn't, you're basically having a lot of people elected for your Congress to look

00:56:16.700 for a different country, look out for a different country.

00:56:19.160 To me, it's very, it does seem very bizarre.

00:56:22.420 Yeah.

00:56:22.580 I think a lot of that stuff, like when it hits my heart over the past, like especially eight months, you know, it's been, it makes me feel like there has to be a way better way to figure things out.

00:56:34.820 It's all about like fear mongering.

00:56:36.540 They will tell you, but Israel is alone.

00:56:38.160 It is surrounded by enemies that want to wipe our ass.

00:56:41.060 Is that true or not?

00:56:41.980 Is Israel surrounded by enemies or not?

00:56:43.420 Bring them, bring the map of the Middle East.

00:56:46.660 Because one of the reasons I'm sure America and Israel have a, like work together is because they need each other, right?

00:56:53.800 Okay, so Egypt is surrounded by Egypt.

00:56:55.940 Egypt is the biggest military force in the Middle East.

00:56:57.980 That's my country.

00:56:58.760 Okay.

00:56:59.120 And they have having like a 45 years lasting peace treaty.

00:57:03.920 There has never been a single missile or bullet shot from Israel, from Egypt to Israel, all over that.

00:57:10.080 So Egypt and Israel have a good.

00:57:12.460 Yeah, Jordan is the other country's peace.

00:57:16.400 UAE, peace.

00:57:18.980 Do you have, really the big threat for Israel is the little militant group in the Gaza Strip, which is Hamas, and Hezbollah, which is south of Lebanon.

00:57:27.060 Oh, yeah.

00:57:27.200 And if you have all of that military might.

00:57:29.340 Hezbollah, the President?

00:57:30.560 Yeah, it's up there.

00:57:31.940 Like you see the gray area, like in Lebanon.

00:57:34.480 Yeah.

00:57:34.700 Oh, is that where he lives in?

00:57:35.560 So basically you have like two militant groups who doesn't like you, right?

00:57:39.420 Supported by Iran, which is far away from you.

00:57:41.680 And you have all of these Arab countries around you, basically friends with you.

00:57:45.900 So all of these, they want to kill us all.

00:57:47.640 We're going to perish.

00:57:48.540 Well, fuck you.

00:57:49.020 All of this.

00:57:49.600 You see, Saudi Arabia, they have like almost normalized relationship.

00:57:53.940 So you don't believe that.

00:57:55.140 You believe that they have, it's pretty stable over there.

00:57:57.320 It is a way to push in war and make you, because if you're not threatened, how can you sell the war?

00:58:01.900 Yeah.

00:58:02.660 And if you talk about October 7th, see what, they want to be, you believe that before October 7th there were peace.

00:58:09.440 Actually, before October 7th, two weeks before October 7th, Israel bombed Gaza three times.

00:58:14.620 Before October 7th, Israel already killed 75 children in the West Bank in the same year.

00:58:20.260 All of these numbers were happening, all of this ongoing.

00:58:23.200 There was no peace before October 7th.

00:58:25.820 And you go in and you go in with these lies that has never been refuted by the American media, although it was found to be lies and lies and lies.

00:58:33.840 And you do that because you want to tell people we're dealing with terrorists.

00:58:36.920 All of the Arab countries hate us and we have to kill us.

00:58:39.500 And then they will bring in the Holocaust.

00:58:40.980 I'm very sorry for the Holocaust, guys, but we had nothing to do with your Holocaust.

00:58:45.000 We were just like minding our fucking business.

00:58:47.340 I was dead or whatever.

00:58:48.660 I wasn't dead.

00:58:49.220 I wasn't alive.

00:58:49.940 We were in the Middle East.

00:58:51.400 We were just there.

00:58:52.140 And the Holocaust happened to you in Europe.

00:58:53.820 It didn't happen to you because of us.

00:58:55.880 And then you import people from a different continent because you didn't want them.

00:58:59.560 You didn't give them visa.

00:59:00.400 You didn't take them as refugees.

00:59:02.280 America and Britain, you mean?

00:59:03.580 Yeah.

00:59:03.980 And then you put them on our land and then you take our land and then you tell everybody, oh, there was no one there.

00:59:08.920 So has America showed up and Britain showed up and tried to help like facilitate like communications to make things better there?

00:59:18.000 There were many tries for peace treaties, but Obama said it best.

00:59:21.960 In his book, he said the problem with Israel and Palestine is that one of them is very strong and one side is very weak.

00:59:27.320 And there's nothing that compels me to give you land.

00:59:30.220 So they will tell you, oh, we gave five chances to the Palestinians.

00:59:34.640 And they said, no, that is not true.

00:59:36.520 So when you, when I have the whole land and suddenly you're going to give me 49%, that is not a deal.

00:59:42.920 That's like, if you don't like it, we're going to take it from you.

00:59:45.060 If you give me like a shitty deal and you don't, I don't accept it because that is my land.

00:59:49.540 You just can't say like, oh, they didn't accept it.

00:59:52.140 Right.

00:59:52.360 So, but have there been deals offered one way or the other, like peace?

00:59:55.420 Yeah.

00:59:55.580 Yeah.

00:59:55.740 Like there's something called the Oslo Accords.

00:59:57.660 It's happened in 1995.

00:59:58.620 The Oslo Accords.

01:00:00.120 The Oslo Accords.

01:00:01.380 And you have Netanyahu bragging on tape saying that I have personally sabotaged the Oslo Accords.

01:00:09.200 So it means nothing.

01:00:10.080 I think.

01:00:11.560 Okay.

01:00:11.920 The Oslo Accords are a pair of interim agreements between Israel and Palestine Liberation Organization, PLO, signed in Washington, D.C. in 1993, signed in Egypt in 1995.

01:00:21.780 They marked the start of the Oslo Process, a peace process aimed at achieving a peace treaty based on resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.

01:00:32.720 Among the notable outcomes, Oslo Awards were the creation of the Palestinian National Authority, which was tasked with the responsibility of conducting limited Palestinian governance over parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

01:00:42.260 So this was helping Palestine create a government?

01:00:44.080 Yes, but then it was all over the way.

01:00:47.780 It's now clear.

01:00:48.300 The Oslo Peace Accords were wrecked by Netanyahu.

01:00:50.400 And that was written by Avish Lime, who's an Israeli author.

01:00:53.520 Right.

01:00:54.220 Because there's people in Israel that don't agree with Netanyahu, right?

01:00:58.060 Yes, I know.

01:00:58.620 But honestly, I'm sick and tired of saying, oh, Netanyahu is bad, but the rest of Israel, no.

01:01:03.240 98% of Israeli communities said that we're not doing enough in Gaza.

01:01:07.420 Only 2% says it's too much.

01:01:09.500 70% of Israelis said that we should not send humanitarian aid to Gaza.

01:01:14.080 A lot of people, and I don't blame, I mean, I blame them, but like when you tell your people that those are like evils and they're like vampires and they're like killers, of course you're going to hate them.

01:01:24.120 Of course you don't want them to live.

01:01:25.180 Yeah.

01:01:25.380 But you cannot expect to treat people like animals.

01:01:29.880 And when they behave like animals, retaliate like animals, you go on and complain.

01:01:33.800 Yeah.

01:01:34.420 Right?

01:01:34.860 How do you, is there a way, because man, it's just, there's so much, there's so much damage done there.

01:01:43.440 How do you find, how is there some sort of a solution?

01:01:47.140 Like what direction do you see?

01:01:48.580 The solution is fixing the occupation.

01:01:51.340 There is an occupation.

01:01:52.320 And why doesn't America and Britain step in and say, look, we helped create this in the beginning.

01:01:56.860 We want to be here to help us, like establish safety for these people now.

01:02:01.560 Okay, America.

01:02:02.720 What is America made of?

01:02:04.160 Government.

01:02:04.900 What is the government is made of?

01:02:06.400 Elected officials.

01:02:07.620 These people are elected through what?

01:02:09.380 Through elections.

01:02:09.940 Who is controlling the elections and paying for certain people to be there?

01:02:13.500 AIPAC.

01:02:14.420 But do we know, but don't, doesn't every country have lobbyists that try to like influence our elections?

01:02:19.520 Not a foreign lobby like this.

01:02:21.200 Yeah.

01:02:21.500 There is lobbies everywhere.

01:02:22.760 But when you have a foreign lobby that works for an external country, that is not normal to you.

01:02:28.140 But is that considered just like a, you know how we have like little base or a little, what are the places called if you're in London?

01:02:37.700 Oh, the embassy.

01:02:38.480 Like we have embassies in different places.

01:02:40.120 Yes.

01:02:40.540 Don't, is that, isn't that just like them having like a human embassy or something like a.

01:02:44.240 No, no.

01:02:44.920 You know what I'm talking about?

01:02:45.560 Kind of.

01:02:45.820 I understand, but like that doesn't work with lobbies with, with parliaments.

01:02:50.100 And like, this is, again, this is like, imagine a lobby that is openly funded by China and that lobby going there and buying seats for your, for, for people who are pro-China.

01:03:01.360 It seemed like unfair.

01:03:02.500 It's, it's, it's, it should not be accepted in a democratic country.

01:03:07.440 Why do we allow that to happen?

01:03:09.380 And it would seem like, well, but, but then, you know what, that's where it comes down to capitalism because it's the same shit that we allow where, just like where the, the, that drug company came in and hired former people from the FDA to come and work for their drug company.

01:03:25.980 That's wrong.

01:03:26.240 That's illegal.

01:03:26.940 Right.

01:03:27.100 And, and also, and also the government, I mean, capitalism wants you to believe that there's nothing you can do.

01:03:32.600 It's only the free market.

01:03:33.420 Even the free market has some sort of a government control.

01:03:35.760 If a company goes out and become a monopoly, you have antitrust laws and you, and the, and that government can curb that company.

01:03:43.180 Yeah.

01:03:43.360 But the problem is the government that should curb the influence of a foreign lobby is being paid by the same foreign lobby.

01:03:50.260 So why, who would come up and put like a questioning for Israel lobby?

01:03:54.280 The people they just paid, get into Congress.

01:03:56.660 I paid you.

01:03:57.680 Yeah.

01:03:57.900 I own your ass.

01:03:59.260 You are not going to go into Congress and then ask, why are we following?

01:04:03.140 So Israel's a gangster.

01:04:04.720 Exactly.

01:04:05.760 This, this, this is what really make me disenfranchised.

01:04:08.000 I came, you know, I became an American citizen in 2019 and I was so, right in time for the 2020 elections.

01:04:13.660 I was so happy.

01:04:14.560 I'm going to be elected.

01:04:15.520 It took me now four years.

01:04:16.620 I'm not going to, I'm not going to vote in the coming elections.

01:04:18.660 What's the, what's the point?

01:04:19.920 Like, what about America, man?

01:04:21.360 What America?

01:04:22.020 It's like, so now I'm, why would I even care to vote for anybody while both of them are competing to be Israel's favorite bitch?

01:04:29.460 Yeah.

01:04:30.660 It's basically like this.

01:04:32.040 It's like, oh, I'm the best one for Israel.

01:04:33.960 How about being the best one for America?

01:04:36.240 How about doing what's good for America?

01:04:38.240 Is it good for America to pay $26 billion?

01:04:41.300 If I'm seeing this, how do, how do I feel as an American?

01:04:45.060 Well, I think it's, well, for one, I think a lot of people don't know what to think.

01:04:50.100 A lot of people aren't super clear on maybe what's going on, you know?

01:04:53.100 Because they're not allowed to, because they are being, all they need to know is like to see the headlines of the news.

01:04:58.200 And the headlines of the news is always something bad about Palestinians or something bad about, nothing is bad.

01:05:03.820 They don't spend enough time because they want their ESPNs and they need to their Netflix.

01:05:08.740 They don't want to involve.

01:05:09.860 That's why a lot of Americans are still believing in the raping and the decapitated babies, because you can't stay tuned into the news for long.

01:05:18.700 So for them, they do the shock.

01:05:20.500 Right.

01:05:20.860 The lies.

01:05:21.640 And then when people say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, that didn't happen.

01:05:24.960 It's like, oh, it's too late now.

01:05:25.980 Because people are kind of, they're tuned out.

01:05:27.920 Yeah, I think a lot of people do not even believe the news at all anymore, though.

01:05:31.180 I think the news has super lost a ton of credibility over the years.

01:05:34.780 So what happens?

01:05:35.860 You create a kind of apathy.

01:05:37.640 So people don't care and business go as usual.

01:05:41.600 The Congress getting bought, people getting bribed, $26 billion getting sent to Israel.

01:05:47.480 People continue having bombing.

01:05:49.140 And then every now and then, why is this happening?

01:05:51.260 Because you checked out a long time ago.

01:05:53.040 Yeah.

01:05:53.760 And then you ask, what can we do?

01:05:55.420 Nothing, because they made you check out a long time ago.

01:05:58.080 So we have all of these people looking at what the government's doing, looking at what

01:06:01.560 the world is doing.

01:06:02.300 It's like, that ain't right, but there's nothing I can do about it.

01:06:05.320 And this is exactly how you run the world.

01:06:08.780 In my country, in the Middle East, I do that because you cannot speak up because you're

01:06:14.240 going to be put in jail.

01:06:15.640 But here, you can speak up, but nothing will happen.

01:06:19.060 Nothing will change.

01:06:19.540 Here, I think sometimes you get afraid to even ask questions about stuff.

01:06:23.000 And it's like, well, this doesn't even make any sense.

01:06:25.180 It's like, just at least let things make sense to me.

01:06:28.220 For me, not be able to ask questions and shit is just fucking, that's the thing that's

01:06:31.800 really, really weird.

01:06:33.260 Yeah.

01:06:33.620 Because it's all about like the attacking.

01:06:35.320 So if you go and you repeat what I just told you, it's like, oh, he's a liar.

01:06:39.280 He's an anti-Semite.

01:06:40.060 He hates Jews.

01:06:40.900 Okay.

01:06:41.160 What did he lie about?

01:06:42.400 They will never give you details.

01:06:43.940 What did he lie about?

01:06:45.300 I'll give you an example.

01:06:46.460 On the second Piers Morgan interview, I went up to him and I gave him a story.

01:06:49.420 I told him that Israel used to give contraceptive pills to the Ethiopian Jews, Ethiopian Jewish

01:06:57.260 women who were immigrated from Ethiopia.

01:07:01.160 And for more than 15 years, Israel would give them contraceptive shots without them knowing.

01:07:07.840 So they would sterilize them.

01:07:09.560 They would not allow them to breathe because they are black.

01:07:11.940 Is that true?

01:07:12.920 Yeah.

01:07:16.620 Dude, you know what I noticed, dude?

01:07:18.360 I was in Atlanta at the Coca-Cola factory or whatever.

01:07:21.300 And you can taste all the sodas from around the world.

01:07:25.440 Look.

01:07:27.380 Ethiopian women in Israel giving contraceptive without consent, huh?

01:07:31.200 Yeah.

01:07:32.640 Israel's lead.

01:07:33.500 So when Benjamin Netanyahu was in the government and he came out and he personally apologized,

01:07:41.000 right?

01:07:41.420 So this is cut and dry.

01:07:44.020 And you know what happened?

01:07:45.380 The Israelis on the X.

01:07:47.040 Oh, he's a liar.

01:07:47.780 That never happens.

01:07:49.000 It's here.

01:07:50.200 So this is, I'm just preparing you that every time you're going to tell them something,

01:07:54.460 they will tell you, oh, it's a lie.

01:07:55.400 It's a lie.

01:07:55.860 Nobody said that.

01:07:56.580 Nobody said that.

01:07:57.500 Well, a lot of that's just, I mean, yeah.

01:07:59.320 People will position themselves constantly.

01:08:04.360 You know, it's like people are, especially if people are up to no good, nobody wants to

01:08:08.920 get caught.

01:08:09.700 Yes.

01:08:10.220 A lot of times.

01:08:11.440 Yeah.

01:08:11.840 It's like you saying something and somebody, you're a racist.

01:08:13.940 It's like, wait, what did I just said that was racist?

01:08:15.980 Oh, no, no, you're a racist.

01:08:16.760 You're making me uncomfortable.

01:08:18.300 You see that, the way that they attack you?

01:08:20.700 Yeah.

01:08:20.960 It's like, okay, attack what I said.

01:08:24.280 Yeah.

01:08:24.860 If I'm a racist, I do it at home.

01:08:26.820 Yeah.

01:08:27.200 Behind closed doors.

01:08:29.200 But this is, you're anti-Semitic, you're racist, you're a homophobe.

01:08:32.400 The way that they use, like the same way as, oh, you're Islamophobe.

01:08:35.960 I don't like this word, Islamophobe.

01:08:37.140 I don't know if anybody cares about that shit anymore.

01:08:38.960 Nobody cares.

01:08:40.140 Well, people have thrown around some of those terms so many times.

01:08:42.920 It's like the boy that cried wolf kind of in a way.

01:08:44.980 It's like, you can't, I can't, you can't make it feel like I can't ask something or

01:08:50.500 talk about something.

01:08:51.700 Yeah.

01:08:52.120 It just, sometimes it just, sometimes some, some of that stuff is strange.

01:08:56.600 And it's hard.

01:08:58.100 I mean, some of this stuff is even hard to talk about because it's like, I worry that even

01:09:02.080 just by having like some of this conversation, it's like, you just, it's kind of scary because

01:09:07.460 I don't know what I could get in trouble for, but, but this is scary, man, because like

01:09:10.760 I, I'm, I'm new to this country.

01:09:12.180 So like, I'm kind of like following your lead guys.

01:09:14.420 And I'm saying like, wait, isn't this country made, created on the cornerstone of freedom

01:09:19.760 of expression?

01:09:20.880 Why is there some things that we are not allowed to speak about or afraid?

01:09:25.300 This is, this is the promise of the West.

01:09:27.480 Come here and speak and say whatever you want, no matter how offensive it is.

01:09:31.560 It doesn't matter because it is words.

01:09:33.260 But then suddenly you come here and you find all of these red lines.

01:09:35.980 And I, and I was made fun of like when I came from, oh, you came from the Middle East.

01:09:39.340 You have all of these red lines.

01:09:40.680 You cannot speak about that.

01:09:41.820 We can't speak about Jesus.

01:09:43.180 We can't speak about the American president.

01:09:44.520 You can't speak.

01:09:44.940 And now I come here and I see the red line.

01:09:46.900 You have one red line.

01:09:48.020 Really?

01:09:48.240 And you have one red line.

01:09:49.920 Everybody here, not you.

01:09:51.320 Then that red line, you, everybody can see you guys cannot be able to talk about, which

01:09:56.680 is Israel.

01:09:57.320 This is your red line.

01:09:58.840 Your red line is not even in your country.

01:10:00.980 Yeah.

01:10:01.640 Which is crazy.

01:10:02.920 That's a crazy statement.

01:10:03.620 It's a crazy.

01:10:04.540 Dude, I'll tell you what I heard, dude.

01:10:05.820 I heard that Jesus, Jesus did like a lot of impersonations and stuff.

01:10:11.160 What did he impersonate?

01:10:12.300 His dad?

01:10:12.980 Just his friends and stuff.

01:10:14.740 But I heard that somewhere.

01:10:16.360 I don't know why I read that, but he would do like impersonations, I guess, or whatever.

01:10:20.340 What?

01:10:20.540 He would be like the, the, the, the, the, the archangel Michael.

01:10:23.860 And it's like, hey, Jesus, but, but he, he's an archangel.

01:10:29.020 He walks into a clown.

01:10:30.040 I know.

01:10:30.280 But, but, but, but, but I, and, okay, I'll tell you something about, like, things that

01:10:34.860 people find offensive, for example.

01:10:37.980 We were, we're basically profiled as, as Muslims that we hate.

01:10:42.820 Slims, we call them.

01:10:43.800 Yeah.

01:10:44.180 Yeah.

01:10:44.660 Slims.

01:10:45.380 Yeah.

01:10:45.740 What weird.

01:10:46.180 I made that up a couple of years ago.

01:10:47.280 It's like a, I don't want to say it's a racial slur, but if it is, you're welcome.

01:10:51.960 Slims?

01:10:52.620 It's like the Slims of cigarettes?

01:10:53.840 It's kind of like, whenever we say Muslims, we say, we say Slims.

01:11:00.860 I think it's, I really like it.

01:11:02.960 Some people might not like it and that's okay.

01:11:04.680 And I, I, I, one thing that kind of like drives me clear sometimes, like, oh, we like

01:11:09.440 Israel, but we don't like Muslims.

01:11:10.680 Like, why?

01:11:11.300 And then politicians, like, we go, Judeo-Christian values.

01:11:14.240 Have you heard about that?

01:11:15.220 Judeo-Christian values.

01:11:16.540 Like, guys, what do you talk about Judeo-Christian values?

01:11:19.000 You understand that people in, in Israel hate Christians.

01:11:22.640 You understand that?

01:11:23.100 You go right now.

01:11:24.140 That's not true, you think?

01:11:25.220 You go right now in the video and you write Israelis spitting on Christians in Bethlehem

01:11:31.840 or, uh, uh, spitting on Israel, on Christians in, in, in Israel.

01:11:37.200 You see?

01:11:38.280 Spitting, hitting, attacks on Israel and surging in Israel, occupied Islam, ultra-Jewish, spitting

01:11:43.800 on Christians.

01:11:44.600 But this could be specific stuff.

01:11:46.280 No, no, this, this is part, okay, so.

01:11:48.520 You know what I'm saying?

01:11:48.840 This might not be an everyday thing because I have a lot of friends that are Jewish and

01:11:51.840 there's like so many videos.

01:11:54.260 It's just like the videos keep scrolling as we say, that's not that very, you see how

01:11:57.820 many videos right now we're talking?

01:12:00.620 The videos keep scrolling.

01:12:01.980 That's not that everything, but we happen to have a hundred videos to say that that's

01:12:05.840 true.

01:12:06.120 Oh, it says there's only 2,000 videos.

01:12:09.600 Oh, okay.

01:12:10.380 Okay.

01:12:10.920 And you have actually one of their, uh, uh, one of their ministers, Ben Gavir, who is

01:12:16.720 the basic national security, as I said, it is actually part of our, it's part of our

01:12:20.880 religion.

01:12:21.180 There's not, there's no hate about that.

01:12:23.020 And many of the rabbis would say that Jesus right now, Jesus is a son of a whore.

01:12:29.080 The Virgin Mary is a whore.

01:12:30.780 She made up the whole thing about the son of God in order to cover for her adultery.

01:12:35.480 And Jesus, and Jesus right now is in, is being burned with feces and semen for eternity.

01:12:41.480 This is what they say.

01:12:42.660 So basically, I don't know if you follow this trend.

01:12:44.440 I've never heard that.

01:12:44.920 Yeah.

01:12:45.500 You can find it out.

01:12:46.360 And this is a trend on TikTok?

01:12:47.620 No, not a trend.

01:12:48.400 These videos are already there.

01:12:50.060 So basically when Christians go there, the, the, the, the, all, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

01:12:55.020 the Orthodox Jews will go, haktuah.

01:12:58.260 They go, haktuah.

01:13:00.240 They spit on that, spit on that thing.

01:13:05.080 So, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm not saying that this represent all Jews, but what

01:13:09.340 I'm saying is if you want net pick about this, because I grew up as a Muslim and all of those

01:13:15.000 videos net picking of like, oh, look at this extreme Muslim who said that, oh, this must be

01:13:20.040 all Muslim, all Muslim are terrorists.

01:13:21.900 And we have a lot of those videos and nobody's talking about it.

01:13:25.080 So you understand like how this is personal for me.

01:13:27.540 Yeah.

01:13:27.860 And I'm fine talking about those horrible people in the Muslim community, but talk about

01:13:31.840 everybody.

01:13:32.440 Right.

01:13:33.080 Don't limit our speech.

01:13:35.280 And I'm, and I'm, and I, by the way, and I hate the word Islamophobe.

01:13:37.960 Anybody is, is allowed to talk about Islam or the Quran or whatever.

01:13:41.380 I will never call you an Islamophobe, but I'm an equal opportunity offender.

01:13:45.040 If you talk about my religion, let's talk about everybody's religion.

01:13:47.380 Oh yeah.

01:13:47.800 If you're going to talk about my politics, let's talk about everybody's politics.

01:13:51.060 Yeah.

01:13:51.300 I'm not here to attack Jewish people.

01:13:53.400 I'm not here to attack Israel.

01:13:54.540 I am just asking for my right as an American to be able to speak about everything without

01:14:00.840 having fear of being canceled or having my, my career canceled.

01:14:05.800 I, I, I, I had opportunities.

01:14:08.880 My opportunities in Hollywood dried up completely after I, I talked about it.

01:14:12.020 Is that true?

01:14:12.460 Do you think it's tougher for, um, Arabic and Islamic, um, entertainers in Hollywood?

01:14:19.420 Oh, it is tougher, but there's also people who are not Muslims, who are not, uh, Arabs

01:14:23.680 who were had canceled because of their opinions.

01:14:26.560 There have been, uh, blacklists of people in tech companies that have been removed from

01:14:31.480 their companies because of a post of Facebook.

01:14:33.620 And this is happening in America.

01:14:35.160 And of course you remember what happened in these colleges were like American students

01:14:39.100 were being beaten by American police for the sake of a foreign country.

01:14:43.640 You understand like the American university movement, which one of the most amazing movement

01:14:49.760 that they went out against Vietnam.

01:14:51.260 They went out against South Africa and now they went out against Israel and they're being

01:14:55.160 hit and, and, and, and, and, and penalized in their own campuses for just speaking up.

01:15:01.780 Yeah.

01:15:02.460 Yeah.

01:15:02.920 I feel like they should be able to do that at campuses.

01:15:04.720 But then what happens is investors, uh, or donators to the campuses who don't, who believe

01:15:10.860 what they, what they believe, they choose to take their money away.

01:15:15.780 You know, I think.

01:15:16.580 And, and those donors are pro what?

01:15:19.400 They're pro money.

01:15:21.260 So if you, uh, right, please, uh, Jewish billionaires threaten Columbia universities

01:15:28.080 to withdraw their money.

01:15:29.240 I'm never going to fucking work again.

01:15:32.420 Dude, I, I came here having receipts.

01:15:35.340 I know, but I'm going to get in trouble, dude.

01:15:37.040 Pro-Israel Jewish billionaires cut, look, I, there it is.

01:15:40.420 Billionaires stop Columbia cash over anti-Israel protests.

01:15:42.800 Columbia billionaires doers are more giving a million.

01:15:44.820 So you see, what does it, so, so your donors, your donors, the donors have more loyalty to

01:15:51.240 a foreign country and telling you, if you speak about, against that foreign country, I'm not

01:15:54.540 going to even give you my money.

01:15:55.780 But it makes sense though, that you, that makes sense.

01:15:58.460 If you think that, that you say you're a, uh, like I'm a New Orleans Saints fan.

01:16:03.060 If somebody, if somebody puts up a Falcons flag, an Atlanta Falcons flag, and I'm a New Orleans

01:16:07.900 Saints fan and it's my bar or something, or I'm the one that helps take care of the place

01:16:12.900 where they're putting the flag up.

01:16:13.980 I'm going to be upset.

01:16:15.000 I'm going to say, well, I'm not going to help take care of this place anymore.

01:16:17.280 If you support, but the Falcon and myself, these are two people in the league, in an American

01:16:22.020 league, but you are basically talking about a different, you're, I'm not even talking

01:16:26.780 about, I'm not even discreet, attacking your team.

01:16:29.900 I am, I am, I am saying, I'm saying that I don't want my college to take part from, I,

01:16:37.920 I, you know, I understand why they went.

01:16:39.540 They said that we need to divest from any investment with the Israeli army.

01:16:45.160 Is that fair or not?

01:16:47.840 That's fair.

01:16:48.900 Like, I don't want my universities, the one that I pay tuition to, to be involved with

01:16:55.380 the military or the, or the Israeli, that's fair.

01:16:59.620 And then you have, no, we need to be involved in other people's shit and you need not to

01:17:05.460 speak about that.

01:17:06.900 That doesn't make any sense.

01:17:07.860 That doesn't make any sense to me, man.

01:17:09.200 Well, why don't like, um, Arab, like, why don't different groups start to build their

01:17:14.240 own strongholds of like university and, um, like media so that everybody can have their

01:17:22.420 own channels?

01:17:23.180 Most Arabs work in vaping.

01:17:25.040 I don't know that there's much for money in the Arab community.

01:17:28.760 Hey, smoke signals.

01:17:30.100 We just, we just said that like Jewish people are very good in business.

01:17:32.920 We can't compete with that.

01:17:34.040 We just have hookahs and vapes.

01:17:36.440 We can't compete with them.

01:17:38.100 So, but like, you see, if that is the case, don't call it a democracy anymore.

01:17:42.660 If the, if the whole idea about like who pays the more money, it's an oligarchy.

01:17:47.360 Don't call yourself democratic.

01:17:48.840 Just say, Hey, it's a capitalist country.

01:17:50.580 Whoever has more money, but that's dangerous because tomorrow China might have more money

01:17:55.400 here and control it.

01:17:56.540 So it has to be a fair game for everybody, but it's not fair because now they say TikTok,

01:18:02.200 we need to ban TikTok because it's, it's, it's, it's, it's against Israel because it's

01:18:06.000 pro China.

01:18:06.680 So it's, you're not even making the, the, the, the, the, the, the game fair.

01:18:11.100 If, if, if, if Israel can buy its way through it, anybody should buy its way through it.

01:18:15.300 Yeah.

01:18:16.260 Oh, I see what you're saying.

01:18:17.260 You're saying, well, then if that's the case, then China should be able to do it too.

01:18:20.660 And Saudi Arabia is able to do it and Iran is able to do it.

01:18:23.180 Israel's an ally.

01:18:24.040 I guess why, I guess like.

01:18:25.380 Why is Israel an ally?

01:18:27.860 I don't know why.

01:18:28.700 And which ally have you given $26 billion?

01:18:32.520 I don't know, dude.

01:18:33.960 You see, but these things, we repeating that, oh, Israel is our greatest ally.

01:18:37.760 Why?

01:18:38.820 I don't know, but you have to have, well, here's why.

01:18:40.840 I believe, this is what I've always been kind of like, I guess, heard, is that you have

01:18:46.400 to have an ally in the Middle East because there's so much oil and power and money over

01:18:50.500 there.

01:18:52.120 America doesn't have allies in the, all about Saudi Arabia, the biggest oil producing

01:18:55.440 company in the world, Iraq, Egypt, these are, UAE, all of Kuwait, all of these are allies

01:19:01.040 for the United States.

01:19:02.140 I don't know if Saudi Arabia is an ally.

01:19:03.900 I don't know about that.

01:19:04.700 Really?

01:19:05.280 Saudi Arabia is the most beneficial for your economy.

01:19:08.160 Really?

01:19:08.480 They are the biggest buyer of the Europeans.

01:19:10.700 Except for those two buildings in New York City, dude, outside of that.

01:19:13.520 You know what I'm saying?

01:19:14.240 Well, so why didn't you go after them?

01:19:16.080 Because I guess somebody owed somebody some money or something.

01:19:19.420 Let's talk about 9-11 now because it's a bigger issue.

01:19:21.880 We don't, we're going to go really down the rabbit hole.

01:19:24.100 But here's the thing.

01:19:25.420 You have all of those people, their allies.

01:19:27.480 What has Israel done to you being an ally?

01:19:29.660 It has ruined your reputation in front of everybody.

01:19:32.600 Everybody hates America because of Israel.

01:19:34.240 I don't know if that's true.

01:19:35.040 You think so?

01:19:35.600 Yeah.

01:19:35.860 Everybody hates America because of Israel.

01:19:37.100 I'm telling you.

01:19:38.280 And that's why they hate, they hate America because what Israel is doing in Palestine.

01:19:43.340 And how America is supporting Israel forever.

01:19:48.100 And if you find America supporting the killing of my own people, you can't help but people hate

01:19:52.700 you, right?

01:19:53.160 At a certain point, I don't think that Israel is a good ally for us.

01:19:57.420 They are costing us a lot of money.

01:19:59.420 They are harboring a lot of terrorists.

01:20:01.520 The Jewish Defense League, there are three people from the Jewish Defense League in 1994

01:20:05.120 who killed an American citizen and they escaped to Israel.

01:20:09.020 And Israel is not delivering you.

01:20:10.420 Is that a work of an ally?

01:20:11.800 Israel hit the liberty, USS Liberty in 1967.

01:20:15.900 It's an American vessel.

01:20:17.100 Does that an American?

01:20:17.700 There is a book called By Way of Deception by Viktor Ostrovinsky who is an ex-Mossad officer

01:20:26.460 who said that Israel knew about the 1982 Lebanon bombing where 52 Americans were killed and Mossad

01:20:34.140 held the information because they want to do it in spite.

01:20:38.700 Is that the work of an ally?

01:20:42.060 Israel harbors the biggest number of pedophiles in Israel, more than 50 people at least from 2014 by the Jewish Watch community.

01:20:53.260 There's actually a Jewish group who have actually said that.

01:20:56.500 So you have people who are molesting American children in America and they're escaping to Israel using the dual nationality thing

01:21:04.340 and Israel is not giving you back.

01:21:05.640 Is that the work of an ally?

01:21:07.640 If somebody's a molester, you got to send them back.

01:21:09.300 It's on CBS News if you want to look at it.

01:21:11.800 Like CBS News, you can talk about it.

01:21:14.680 You don't like Israel, I think.

01:21:16.640 I don't like Israel, no.

01:21:17.760 I do not like it.

01:21:18.460 I think their ways are evil.

01:21:20.640 You see how Jewish American pedophiles hide from justice in Israel.

01:21:24.100 That's CBS.

01:21:24.680 I'm not making this up.

01:21:27.500 A lot of them, too, would hide by the Winn-Dixie in our area.

01:21:33.840 So is this a work of an ally?

01:21:35.780 Is an ally giving you $100 million to bribe your politicians, buy your elections and then make you pay $26 billion?

01:21:43.560 That's not a work of an ally.

01:21:44.960 If someone takes $70 million of tax-exempt money for their veterans, that's not a work of an ally.

01:21:50.240 But how many issues did America create for itself just with its own practices of doing those sorts of things to other countries and stuff?

01:22:03.740 I wonder.

01:22:03.960 You know what I'm saying?

01:22:04.380 I wonder if there's a part of, if that's true.

01:22:08.000 I don't know.

01:22:08.560 I mean, America has known to finance and carry out coups in all kinds of different countries.

01:22:15.360 In Latin America, they're known to overthrowing a government if they don't like.

01:22:19.000 For example, it happened in Chile.

01:22:20.500 It happened in Argentina.

01:22:21.700 It happened in so many places.

01:22:23.420 It happened in Iraq.

01:22:24.460 Iraq in 1954, there was like an elected official that they thrown out because of oil agreements.

01:22:31.460 America is known to manipulate the whole world.

01:22:35.120 It is, it is, it is, it, that's what, what superpowers do.

01:22:37.960 Right.

01:22:38.240 So if like the Romans did it, the Greeks came, I accept that.

01:22:41.380 I accept that because we were the police of the planet.

01:22:44.140 Yes, it happened.

01:22:44.980 It comes with a cause.

01:22:45.700 It's terrible.

01:22:46.040 But couldn't that evolve and then Israel could just become that?

01:22:49.040 What do you mean?

01:22:49.900 Like, like if we were the leader at one time, couldn't Israel be the leader at one time?

01:22:54.660 Why?

01:22:55.100 Couldn't China be the leader at one time?

01:22:56.680 Well, well, China I can accept because it's a, it's a superpower.

01:23:00.320 But Israel is a client state.

01:23:02.040 It's a small state.

01:23:02.680 This is like basically you living, you, you, you working in a, in a corporate and the CEO coming every day and shitting on your office, shitting on your office.

01:23:11.780 It's like, but he's a CEO, he's the owner.

01:23:13.120 But then he brings his little poodle and then he shits on your desk.

01:23:16.820 That's too much.

01:23:17.920 That's Israel.

01:23:19.240 Right.

01:23:19.700 I can accept it because you are the superpower of the world, but don't bring your brat dog to do it on my desk.

01:23:26.380 That's too much.

01:23:27.620 Because the only way that I can do anything for that dog is that the owner is the CEO and I don't want to be fired.

01:23:33.220 So that's basically, Israel is the bulldog that's being, that harassing everybody around it in the region.

01:23:38.960 And, and, and, and they, although they hate us, where are we going to perish?

01:23:43.900 Fuck it.

01:23:44.420 You're not going to perish.

01:23:45.160 You have nuclear weapons.

01:23:46.160 You have like.

01:23:46.620 Yeah, they're fine.

01:23:47.620 They're fine now.

01:23:47.900 It's definitely gets kind of wonky.

01:23:49.040 They're fine.

01:23:49.660 And then, okay.

01:23:50.240 And then how can, how is it sense of self-defense?

01:23:52.700 Because I'm sure that you've seen these videos, all of these IDF soldiers wearing women laundry, taking like the women's, the, the, the, the kids toys, destroying empty hospitals, destroying empty schools just for the fun of it.

01:24:04.620 That doesn't look like an army that is defending itself.

01:24:07.720 Yeah.

01:24:08.320 Well, to me, it's felt like the feeling of it is that, um, like usually when you hear, I mean, I've said this before, usually when you hear like free a place, that's the place that needs help.

01:24:20.840 You know, it's like, you don't hear like free Michigan or free America or free China, you know, or sometimes you hear free China.

01:24:28.000 But, um, but yeah, if you hear free, free Palestine, if you hear that, then that's usually, if, if something becomes that big of a fervor that that's the campaign slogan, that place usually needs some sort of help.

01:24:40.840 Yeah.

01:24:41.160 How does someplace that's stronger, like Israel that has so much, how, how do they help?

01:24:47.140 How do we get to it?

01:24:48.160 Why would they help?

01:24:48.960 They just want the land.

01:24:50.240 But they're the, but they.

01:24:51.440 Remember the map that we saw how they, this has been ongoing from 1940s.

01:24:55.940 But they obviously have enough of the land.

01:24:57.320 No, they want the whole land.

01:24:58.720 They want all over the West Bank.

01:25:00.080 They want all of Gaza.

01:25:00.860 And they have said many times on television, the, the, the only way this would happen if people in Gaza go into Egypt and people in the West Bank are driven into, uh, Jordan.

01:25:11.500 Is this a legitimate map?

01:25:12.340 Did you draw this map?

01:25:15.360 It's from the internet.

01:25:16.400 But, but, but they have been telling you openly, we're going to displace those people out there.

01:25:20.240 But at a certain point, they have to recognize, hey, we haven't, this is.

01:25:22.800 No, they don't care.

01:25:23.660 They haven't.

01:25:24.120 Well, let's see, that's the part to me that's not cool, dude.

01:25:26.340 Show me, show me in this map anywhere where Israel has scaled back.

01:25:30.500 What they have done, they have moved forward to disintegrate the land more, push the people more, abuse the people more.

01:25:37.180 And because they have the power and because they have America behind them, they are not compelled to do anything different.

01:25:43.400 Well, they feel like they're in the right.

01:25:44.860 Yes, they feel in the right because it's given, but the Bible gave it to me because God gave it to me.

01:25:50.180 So if I'm that, if I believe I'm the chosen people, I can do whatever I want.

01:25:54.320 Oh, yeah.

01:25:54.780 And I have to tell you, like a lot of people ask me, Pastor, are you religious?

01:25:57.820 I said, like, if these are God's chosen people, I have doubts.

01:26:00.420 I'm going to lose my job for another two more years for laughing at all.

01:26:07.520 But do you think, though, that why doesn't America help Palestine?

01:26:12.380 Why don't we?

01:26:13.700 Because they help.

01:26:14.780 I just told you.

01:26:15.880 What is America?

01:26:17.460 America is a government.

01:26:18.440 This government is made of officials.

01:26:19.780 These officials are elected.

01:26:21.740 They need money for the elections.

01:26:23.060 Who pays for election campaigns?

01:26:25.020 Who is the biggest?

01:26:25.580 But even still, you can still help someone because they need help.

01:26:29.200 No.

01:26:30.280 No.

01:26:30.720 They don't care.

01:26:31.800 Who is the biggest recipient of donors from Israel?

01:26:35.720 Nine million dollars over the years.

01:26:37.780 Joe Biden.

01:26:38.960 Joe Biden, yeah.

01:26:39.600 Yeah.

01:26:40.120 So why would he help?

01:26:41.160 Why would I help Palestine while I'm getting my money from you?

01:26:44.160 I mean, he can give me all kinds of, like, fancy political talk, but it's really about being reelected.

01:26:49.900 So the idea, you are thinking as a human being, what is the right thing to do?

01:26:55.280 And you're right.

01:26:56.420 But the right thing to do is not the right thing in politics.

01:26:59.180 The right thing in politics is to survive and have as much money as possible to stay in power as long as possible.

01:27:04.220 No morals, no right and wrong, nothing.

01:27:06.980 Just power.

01:27:08.560 Well, one thing that didn't help, by having the term free Palestine, that's going to attract all the...

01:27:15.480 But if you label something free something right next to Israel, dude, no wonder they keep coming.

01:27:21.620 They should have said a very expensive Palestine.

01:27:24.420 It's a very expensive Palestine, but it is expensive.

01:27:26.580 It's costing us a lot of money.

01:27:27.900 They should have said under contract Palestine.

01:27:31.620 Work in progress.

01:27:32.840 Now, is that a joke?

01:27:33.920 Am I going to go to jail?

01:27:35.480 I don't know.

01:27:35.820 Why would you go into jail?

01:27:36.480 You shouldn't.

01:27:37.280 I understand that, but why do I feel like I'm right?

01:27:40.620 Why do you feel that?

01:27:42.060 Theo, you are an outspoken person.

01:27:44.440 You speak about anything.

01:27:45.180 You go on stage and you have no boundaries.

01:27:47.880 When people in America start to have boundaries about a certain issue, we need to ask questions.

01:27:52.940 Why?

01:27:53.420 Oh, I get it.

01:27:54.540 Why?

01:27:55.480 And also, it's just like, it's crazy.

01:27:58.940 It's just like, maybe it's my disappointment because I bet everything on this country.

01:28:03.760 I really, really love living here, being here.

01:28:06.680 And the only thing that I was promised, which is freedom, it seems not to work.

01:28:13.300 And I'm someone who's been canceled a few times, mapped from my own country.

01:28:16.900 So, I come here, it's like, hey, America, freedom.

01:28:19.140 It's like, oh, freedom of everything except that one thing.

01:28:21.920 Come on, come on, do it.

01:28:23.200 What kind of freedom is that?

01:28:24.200 Maybe I should have like, I don't know, went to Tel Aviv instead.

01:28:27.440 Well, I think it behooves everybody if you can joke about everything.

01:28:31.080 I think that that makes things a lot more chill.

01:28:34.060 So, how do you handle like, not agreeing with Israel but still supporting like your Jewish friends and stuff that are in America?

01:28:42.000 I don't think that's a difficult choice because the Jewish people, here's the thing.

01:28:47.700 They want you to make you think that all Jewish people are with Israel.

01:28:50.560 That is not true.

01:28:51.220 A lot of Jewish people do not agree with that.

01:28:54.220 Oh, yeah.

01:28:54.820 I have a lot of Jewish friends that are on kind of both sides of this thing.

01:28:58.180 You have a lot of, you have a Jewish block that every single week that goes out in Europe and in America.

01:29:05.580 And remember when we were talking about those university encampments?

01:29:11.020 Many of them, there was like a Jewish block that was part, and many of them were even arrested with their Arab and American brothers.

01:29:18.200 But they don't want to talk to you about that.

01:29:19.520 There is, you can find many pictures for Orthodox Jews burning the Israeli flag.

01:29:26.740 Orthodox Jews in New York.

01:29:28.500 OJs, yeah.

01:29:28.980 Yeah, OJs.

01:29:29.820 They do not represent us.

01:29:31.200 But they don't want you to see that.

01:29:32.520 They want, you want you to see one thing.

01:29:34.840 How do you get, here it is.

01:29:36.560 All of those Jewish people, they don't like what is it.

01:29:39.040 You can't show that, dude.

01:29:39.680 We're going to.

01:29:40.220 Why not?

01:29:40.860 Yeah, you old man.

01:29:41.220 But wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:29:42.500 How many pictures of burned American flag have you seen?

01:29:45.520 I don't look at those either.

01:29:46.520 No, no, no, but if you have a picture now of burning the American flag or the Iranian flag.

01:29:50.920 Oh, you can't even go to jail for it anymore.

01:29:52.220 No, but like Israeli flag?

01:29:55.200 Why?

01:29:55.820 Why?

01:29:57.320 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not inviting people to hate on Israel.

01:30:00.760 I'm not inviting people to hate on Jewish people.

01:30:02.600 Yeah, agreed.

01:30:02.680 I just want to say you need to have the freedom to speak your mind, even if it doesn't please certain people.

01:30:09.420 Because this is democracy.

01:30:10.760 Democracy is noisy, and you will listen to things that you don't like.

01:30:14.320 But you should not feel afraid of speaking up your mind.

01:30:18.480 Yeah.

01:30:19.240 Yeah, I think the part where I even started to think about it was, it just started to seem like, you know, obviously what happened on October 7th was horrible.

01:30:28.080 And, but then it just started to seem like such an overstatement of.

01:30:33.580 Yeah, it was like, oh, we have to kill Hamas, we have to kill Hamas by any, it's just.

01:30:37.580 And then they just won't exist.

01:30:38.900 And so, I don't know, there's something inside of me, even if I don't know anything about it, there's something inside of me that just says, this just feels messed up.

01:30:45.280 I like the fact that they say like, oh, we're doing this for Palestinians.

01:30:48.820 We need them.

01:30:49.680 We will get rid of Hamas for them, and the Palestinians will be grateful.

01:30:54.000 And then I do.

01:30:54.740 And then I see the destructions.

01:30:56.000 I see that, yeah, there's a lot of Palestinians who don't like Hamas, but you want to, you want to convince me that you want to destroy that place, and then you think those people that would be left would be okay with you?

01:31:07.360 Do you think the Palestinian people knew that Hamas was going to do this October 7th?

01:31:11.280 I don't think they knew.

01:31:12.420 And, of course, it's devastating for them.

01:31:15.180 And, but it, and I wish the October 7th never happened.

01:31:19.040 But again, we come back, it's like, how long can you take it?

01:31:22.840 How long can you take the abuse, the land theft, the killing?

01:31:27.180 At a certain point, you're going to be desperate.

01:31:29.040 And you're going to be desperate against a much more stronger enemy.

01:31:34.440 But isn't, like, but when America revolted for tea, they revolted against a much stronger enemy.

01:31:43.020 And I find it very interesting how everything in the American culture, you watch Star Wars, you side with the rebels.

01:31:50.340 You watch the Hunger Games, you side with the rebels.

01:31:53.260 You go to Israel, you side with the oppressor.

01:31:56.680 You don't side with the rebels.

01:31:57.740 You don't side with the people with no weapons.

01:31:59.560 You don't side with the people with the machine guns or the knives.

01:32:02.740 You side the people with the military arsenal.

01:32:05.040 Yeah.

01:32:05.900 Because they were deemed terrorists, less humans, dehumanizing.

01:32:10.700 See how they talk about Palestinians.

01:32:12.040 They are death cults.

01:32:13.240 They are terrorists.

01:32:14.180 And what are Palestinians like?

01:32:15.820 Like normal people.

01:32:17.300 Normal people, but they're living in a horrible condition.

01:32:19.560 I married one of them.

01:32:21.000 Oh, gosh.

01:32:21.440 So I can report that she has no fangs or nails other than the nails that she does in the nail salon.

01:32:26.560 So she's like a normal human being.

01:32:28.760 And we have normal kids.

01:32:30.380 And they don't turn into werewolves at night.

01:32:33.240 They are normal people.

01:32:34.260 They are normal people who have been in this land and they were taken away from them.

01:32:37.620 And this was a problem that was imported from a different continent, done by other perpetrators.

01:32:44.020 And they were rejected by other white people.

01:32:47.140 And they were just like put on us.

01:32:49.480 And it is terrible.

01:32:50.640 And it should not happen.

01:32:51.900 So do Palestinians also have issues with Britain and the U.S. then probably?

01:32:55.460 Of course.

01:32:56.100 But like I don't think they have any time to have issues with anybody.

01:32:58.540 They have time to survive.

01:32:59.680 They're living in tents right now in Gaza.

01:33:01.120 And the people who live in West Bank are under threat to be killed or kicked out at any moment.

01:33:08.380 And I just want people to look at them as humans.

01:33:13.860 Everybody who went to Gaza, everybody who went to West Bank, saw what happened to those people.

01:33:17.920 And then we speak of they're being shut down.

01:33:20.100 Are you able to look at Israel as humans too?

01:33:23.260 Yes.

01:33:23.960 But I look at everybody as humans.

01:33:26.440 And I will not do the same mistake that they have been doing to us, dehumanizing us, calling us terrorists.

01:33:33.320 But they are acting like terrorists.

01:33:35.240 Why don't we give part of our country to Palestine?

01:33:41.100 Why don't you give part of your country to Jewish people?

01:33:45.320 Oh, yeah.

01:33:45.900 Why don't we give part of our country to one of the groups?

01:33:48.560 At least that would help.

01:33:49.400 Do you think?

01:33:49.780 Yeah, I think.

01:33:51.280 Maybe.

01:33:51.840 But it's not.

01:33:52.920 Or an island.

01:33:54.240 What about that?

01:33:54.620 What if you did a merger?

01:33:56.280 You did Palestine-Ireland.

01:33:58.000 Palestine-Ireland.

01:33:58.720 That's a good one.

01:33:59.680 Yes.

01:34:00.140 Do you think that's possible?

01:34:01.600 Would Palestine accept something like that where it's like, let's give this place.

01:34:07.360 I'm not Palestinian, so I cannot speak on their behalf.

01:34:09.500 But I think Palestinians want to stay in their land.

01:34:11.760 And I think many of those.

01:34:14.560 This is what drives me crazy because it doesn't make any sense.

01:34:17.340 Any Jewish person all around the world, if you're like a Polish Jewish, like an American

01:34:23.760 Jewish, just because you're Jewish, you can get the Israeli passport right now, right

01:34:29.180 now.

01:34:29.740 And once you get the passport, you can come from Brooklyn, land into Israel, take a piece

01:34:35.040 of land that was owned by a Palestinian right on the spot.

01:34:38.180 Or a home that is owned by a Palestinian saying that this is your promised land.

01:34:43.140 Like, what do you mean?

01:34:43.560 You can walk into the house?

01:34:44.580 Yeah.

01:34:45.180 You can just walk in the house and you can have videos of people taking their stuff and

01:34:49.060 barging into a Palestinian home in the West Bank.

01:34:52.000 It happens all the time.

01:34:53.180 It doesn't make any sense.

01:34:54.860 A Brooklyn Jew, just because he was born Jew, can just like go to Israel, take the passport

01:35:00.460 and take a piece of land that is belonged to someone else, even now as we speak.

01:35:04.720 Does that make any sense?

01:35:05.420 Most people wouldn't do that.

01:35:06.780 Many people do that.

01:35:08.080 Many people do that.

01:35:08.860 On every single given day, you have planes with thousands of Jewish people from all

01:35:13.820 over the world coming from Eastern Europe, coming from Africa, coming from Latin America,

01:35:18.000 coming to America and settling in the land, settling in Arab land.

01:35:22.880 Does the Palestinian people, do they have a police department?

01:35:26.000 They have like, they have something called the Palestinian Authority, which is an oxymoron.

01:35:32.740 And they are called the Palestinian Authority, but show me an authority that has absolutely

01:35:38.360 no say about the foreign people coming in and taking land from your people.

01:35:41.920 Yeah.

01:35:42.880 Dude, my friend got a job at the airport and he was a little guy, right?

01:35:47.080 And they gave him a billy club and it weighed him down and he was so little.

01:35:50.960 He's like, he probably weighed 60 pounds or whatever.

01:35:53.500 And I guess-

01:35:53.760 I think he's more effective, more than the Palestinian Authority.

01:35:56.540 He has more power than their-

01:35:58.200 The club, when you'd see him run, it was so-

01:36:00.740 He almost had to run sideways because of the way the club would like shuffle and like block

01:36:04.700 his legs.

01:36:05.360 I wish it was that funny.

01:36:06.780 What's a solution?

01:36:07.840 We, we, we, there has to, you have to have some-

01:36:10.020 The solution is to end the occupation and the solution is that Israel should stop killing

01:36:14.160 Palestinians and taking their land.

01:36:15.380 It's as simple as that details, what land, how much, well, that's not my thing to say

01:36:20.580 because I'm a comedian, not a politician, I'm not a Palestinian.

01:36:23.160 There are Palestinian politicians that can talk on their behalf, but I can tell you whatever

01:36:28.460 is happening now is wrong.

01:36:30.020 And I'm not, it's not my problem or my issue to come up with a solution because I didn't

01:36:35.440 cause that crisis.

01:36:36.580 It's someone else caused it and it's not for me to fix it for them.

01:36:39.480 But what I can say, what's happening is wrong.

01:36:41.520 Are any, are any American or British leaders, and some of this stuff, I don't know a ton,

01:36:47.520 you know, I'm trying my best to learn.

01:36:49.540 Is some, um, American or British leaders trying to help negotiate that?

01:36:54.220 Have we tried over the years to help?

01:36:55.540 Yeah, but it's, it's always been skewed towards Israel.

01:36:58.720 Is that true though?

01:36:59.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:37:02.020 And-

01:37:02.520 Because both sides have rejected peace agreements, right?

01:37:04.940 Yes, but one of them rejected it because basically you're giving them a very shitty deal

01:37:09.940 and the other side rejected it because they want more.

01:37:12.800 And now they're telling you, it's like, hey, you know what, forget about the second state.

01:37:16.640 Forget about two state solution.

01:37:17.940 Even the Israelis say that, oh, it's all ours now.

01:37:20.100 Forget it.

01:37:20.580 What about like Ladder and Bloom or something?

01:37:22.260 Who is, who is doing the, um, or Remark or something?

01:37:27.040 Who's the, who's, who's negotiating it all?

01:37:30.540 I don't know.

01:37:30.960 There's no negotiation now.

01:37:32.120 Like Israel hasn't gone to the negotiation table for the past 20 years.

01:37:34.800 Like is Gaza on Zillow?

01:37:36.760 No.

01:37:38.440 I think if there's Zillow's-

01:37:40.800 I'm just joking, dude.

01:37:44.240 Is that offensive?

01:37:45.080 Oh my God.

01:37:45.900 No, no, no, no.

01:37:46.700 And I, I learned to laugh about everything.

01:37:49.240 It's like, I think Zillow's like, uh, it's-

01:37:54.700 Here's the thing.

01:37:55.100 If it's not on Zillow, I don't think you can take it.

01:37:57.600 However, it's not in Zillow.

01:37:59.500 It's not, oh, wow.

01:38:00.540 But I think one thing about a lot of my Jewish friends I notice is they do a good job of

01:38:05.540 working together, you know?

01:38:07.100 Jewish people are great business people.

01:38:08.900 And, uh, I, I don't want to kind of be the guy who's like, hey, I have black friends,

01:38:13.300 but like, I honestly like my agents, my managers, and, uh, they, they all come from companies

01:38:18.800 that are overwhelmingly Jewish people and I have no problem with dealing with it.

01:38:22.100 My, my, my, uh, my utmost friend and, and, and the guy that I look up to is Jon Stewart.

01:38:31.600 And I, he's the reason why I'm known to America when I came on his show.

01:38:34.380 He came to my show.

01:38:35.180 I love him to that.

01:38:35.840 He's my big brother and he's Jewish.

01:38:37.980 I don't, I, I, that's why I don't fall into this like Jewish, Jewish, Jewish.

01:38:41.760 Now, there are just like bad people that happen to be Jewish.

01:38:44.840 And there's a bad people that happen to be Muslims.

01:38:46.920 There are bad people that happen to be Christians and there are bad people that happen to be

01:38:49.800 atheists.

01:38:50.280 I don't look through the sense lens of, of religion, but I can see people who would use

01:38:55.040 religion in order to advance their policy.

01:38:57.680 The same way that ISIS and Qaeda used Islam in order to promote themselves as the only

01:39:01.680 speakers of Islam, we as Muslims rejected it.

01:39:03.880 And the way that Israel is speaking on behalf of all Jewish people, Jewish people, a lot of

01:39:07.680 Jewish people are rejecting that because it's not anti-Semitism to attack Israel.

01:39:11.880 It's not anti-Semitism to criticize Zionism.

01:39:14.780 It's just like freedom of expression.

01:39:16.560 And that is why I don't hold that, but they want to reduce you.

01:39:19.380 You're a Jew hater.

01:39:20.480 Dude, relax.

01:39:21.340 I'm not.

01:39:21.780 Yeah.

01:39:21.900 I don't like when people say, say that sort of thing.

01:39:25.200 Yeah.

01:39:25.500 It's a way to shut down the conversation, to scare you, to intimidate you, to make people

01:39:29.140 have like a negative reaction to you without even you speaking.

01:39:31.800 Dude, if I was a Jew, if I didn't, if I hated Jewish people, I would know.

01:39:35.120 You would know.

01:39:36.140 You would know.

01:39:36.680 You know what I'm saying?

01:39:37.360 Like, I feel like I'd be the first to know.

01:39:38.680 You'd go to New York and not eat bagels.

01:39:40.380 You'd know.

01:39:40.860 Yeah.

01:39:42.900 Yeah.

01:39:43.440 I feel like I would have an inkling.

01:39:44.460 Your boy called Bagels.

01:39:45.780 New York.

01:39:46.660 Yeah.

01:39:47.660 Now, don't do that, dude.

01:39:49.380 Have you had debates with friends like on this topic a lot?

01:39:52.520 Yeah.

01:39:52.680 Many times.

01:39:53.760 Many times.

01:39:54.280 And some of them listen.

01:39:55.520 Some of them are set in their ways.

01:39:57.480 Like anything.

01:39:58.240 Like, that's true for Americans, for Egyptians.

01:40:02.140 I have debates about the Egyptian revolution with Egyptian friends who would never listen

01:40:06.680 to my point of view.

01:40:07.900 So, yes.

01:40:08.500 It's a very emotionally charged topic.

01:40:11.360 So, you will have people coming in very emotional.

01:40:13.980 And they will not want to hear.

01:40:16.660 Yeah.

01:40:16.900 Have you heard a good solution idea from a friend?

01:40:20.860 No.

01:40:21.120 A solution is end the occupation.

01:40:23.440 And treat everybody living in that land equally.

01:40:27.880 Don't treat them as subhumans.

01:40:29.860 But at this point, say they ended the occupation, right?

01:40:32.320 Yeah.

01:40:33.640 The kids are never going to forget.

01:40:36.520 It's never going to.

01:40:37.320 Yeah.

01:40:37.940 You have created a catastrophe.

01:40:40.420 You have created something that will last for decades.

01:40:43.760 Many of those people do not like America right now.

01:40:45.920 They don't like Jewish people like now.

01:40:48.420 They don't like.

01:40:49.900 Oh, you just realized.

01:40:52.580 Well, yeah.

01:40:53.140 Because it's American young men and women.

01:40:55.200 They're probably at some point going to have to go and put their blood in a field somewhere.

01:40:58.780 Yes.

01:40:59.200 And as an American, I don't want America being involved in wars in the Middle East.

01:41:04.120 I don't want America to be funding wars in the Middle East.

01:41:06.620 I don't want our taxpayers' money going to fund killing babies.

01:41:12.380 Some babies are assholes.

01:41:14.300 I'll say that.

01:41:14.680 Some of them.

01:41:15.100 Some of them.

01:41:15.780 I give you that.

01:41:16.600 Not a lot of me.

01:41:17.400 Every now and then, you're like, whoa, dude.

01:41:19.520 But you don't want your money.

01:41:21.260 But I'm joking too, babies.

01:41:22.240 Yeah.

01:41:22.660 But you don't want your money to be part of that destruction.

01:41:26.320 Well, our country's fucking falling apart.

01:41:28.360 Everybody is addicted or dealing with addiction.

01:41:32.780 Our families are dealing with loss from addiction.

01:41:35.460 You kill people's spirits with the fucking bullshit plan for the vaccine.

01:41:40.740 Don't make it worse and go and pay more money for destruction.

01:41:44.280 If it's already been fucked, deal with this fuckery.

01:41:47.100 Don't make it worse.

01:41:48.620 Yeah.

01:41:48.940 Don't go and fuck yourself even more.

01:41:51.620 I wish you guys could settle it on the field.

01:41:53.100 Is there any sports that Israel and Palestine play against each other?

01:41:56.360 Circumcision.

01:41:57.240 Oh, really?

01:41:59.480 That's the only thing in common.

01:42:00.640 And who's winning?

01:42:11.820 I don't know.

01:42:13.560 Like, I think we get, because they're more Muslims, I think we're cutting more dicks than they.

01:42:17.840 There you go.

01:42:18.600 The year, huh?

01:42:19.300 This year.

01:42:19.920 Like on the NAS dick.

01:42:20.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:42:22.500 And let's see.

01:42:23.480 When you see, like, the pain and the, like, physical destruction and the human destruction that's happening over there and just, like, the videos of people being, like, maimed and brutalized on both sides over there.

01:42:38.300 As a surgeon, that must make you feel some type of way, too, huh?

01:42:41.080 Yeah, and there's a lot of surgeons and doctors who've been to Gaza and they come back with horrible stories.

01:42:44.800 Really?

01:42:45.120 Because, yeah, they're all over there.

01:42:46.800 They tell you, because every single hospital in Gaza is bombed.

01:42:49.720 36 hospitals, all of them destroyed.

01:42:53.860 They have, like, maternity wards and incubators being killed.

01:42:57.360 They have, basically, a place that has no basic needs and you're bombing the shit out of them every day.

01:43:02.900 And you say, oh, we couldn't get Hamas?

01:43:06.420 It's like, Israel, I think the IDF would be the worst in playing Jenga.

01:43:11.440 Yeah.

01:43:11.620 You know, like, okay, this is a terrorist.

01:43:13.840 Ah, the whole region went down.

01:43:15.840 Well, you do think that if the army is that acute, that they would be able to be more articulate.

01:43:26.000 You mean, like, killing people less discriminately?

01:43:29.600 Just, like, getting exactly whoever Hamas is.

01:43:32.360 Yeah, they can.

01:43:33.080 They can, but they don't care.

01:43:34.240 Because we have seen them on video killing babies.

01:43:38.040 We cannot just tell me it's by mistake when you have babies with sniper bullets in their head.

01:43:43.360 Yeah.

01:43:43.720 Right?

01:43:44.160 Twice.

01:43:44.880 You can't say, that's my mistake.

01:43:46.560 You can't say, oh, we're trying our best.

01:43:48.620 And then you blow up an empty hospital or an empty school just for spite.

01:43:55.060 Yeah.

01:43:55.700 You can't say, oh, we're not doing that by mistake.

01:43:58.520 Like, and you keep, and you cannot have a war when 80% of the people are displaced, 100% of the people are, 100% of the place is destroyed, and 50% of the infrastructure is, like, completely wiped out.

01:44:13.020 You just, it's 80%.

01:44:14.360 It's just, you can't, you can't.

01:44:15.580 This is not war.

01:44:16.380 This is annihilation.

01:44:18.720 Do you think it's going to stop or no?

01:44:20.660 It's been going on for eight months, and I don't know how much they're going to continue.

01:44:24.440 I think there was just, what's the latest?

01:44:25.840 No, nothing, just, they just bombed a, there's a video of a, of a, of a refugee hospital.

01:44:33.520 All Palestinians to leave Gaza's largest city, the latest.

01:44:36.460 Israel orders all Palestinians to leave Gaza's largest.

01:44:38.300 Yeah, also, there's a video.

01:44:39.280 Where do they go if they're ordered to leave?

01:44:41.020 They just, in the rural areas around, they want to push them into Sinai, but in Sinai, they can't, but they're closed.

01:44:46.380 Sinai's closed?

01:44:47.640 The borders with Sinai.

01:44:48.800 Also, you can see there's a video of a refugee hospital, a refugee school in Gaza, that the moment that they were playing football, and Israel just dropped the bomb, and they were playing football.

01:45:00.360 Well, let me read this.

01:45:01.100 Israel launched the war in Gaza after Hamas' October 7th attack, in which militants stormed into Israel, killed some 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and abducted about 250.

01:45:10.340 Since then, Israeli ground offensives and bombardments have killed more than 38,000 people in Gaza.

01:45:15.540 38,000.

01:45:15.960 According to the territory's health ministry, it does not distinguish between combatants and civilians in its count.

01:45:20.160 Wow.

01:45:23.340 But yeah, that's the video.

01:45:26.300 They were playing football.

01:45:27.500 This is like a refugee camp.

01:45:29.220 And then the moment.

01:45:30.420 What is a refugee camp?

01:45:31.380 A refugee school.

01:45:32.580 They're like, inside guys, they're all, see?

01:45:40.700 That's every single day.

01:45:42.840 Every single day.

01:45:44.640 That's every single day.

01:45:46.780 In schools and hospitals, every single day.

01:45:51.120 That just happened two days ago.

01:45:52.740 Yeah.

01:45:54.340 Man.

01:45:55.560 Yeah, I don't know.

01:45:58.400 I just remember when I was a kid, my mom would say sometimes, like, I don't know why we're sending Israel all this money.

01:46:04.220 You know?

01:46:05.100 But she never liked Netanyahu.

01:46:07.340 Yeah, but whether Netanyahu or Montyahu, we said, we said.

01:46:10.380 She said he looks like a bad guy.

01:46:11.560 We sent money to Israel even before Netanyahu.

01:46:14.020 Now, the question is, there's just, like, a lot of questions, and we need to be able to ask these questions without having fear of being canceled or destroyed or having our career taken away from us.

01:46:23.160 Well, we fucking threw that out the window this episode.

01:46:24.740 I don't think you did anything wrong, Theo.

01:46:26.600 Theo, you did well, man.

01:46:27.920 Even listening, though, sometimes.

01:46:29.480 Even listening now?

01:46:30.880 You're afraid of listening?

01:46:32.400 What happened to our American freedoms?

01:46:34.600 It disintegrated to being afraid of listening.

01:46:36.660 Oh, as a human being, I'm okay.

01:46:38.300 Okay.

01:46:38.540 I think just my life, I get worried about being able to still do my job.

01:46:42.020 You did nothing wrong, Theo.

01:46:43.500 You got a guy who spoke his mind, which is what Americans are.

01:46:48.060 I agree.

01:46:48.780 You just gave me a platform to speak our mind, and you're bringing someone else who will say the opposite of what I'm going to say.

01:46:55.000 It's going to be up to people to decide.

01:46:56.720 How do you, like, support your Jewish friends, like, just in the U.S. and stuff or whatever, who disagree with kind of some of the situation there?

01:47:03.140 Is that kind of tough sometimes?

01:47:04.580 It is tough for them.

01:47:05.420 I mean, I have a lot of Jewish friends who are in disagreement with their parents who are pretty much Zionist, and they don't agree with that.

01:47:12.980 And a Zionist, what is it again?

01:47:14.080 Just give me one more.

01:47:14.880 Okay.

01:47:15.640 According to Jewish people or Zionist people, it is just simply having a national state of Israel in the Middle East.

01:47:24.680 But for us, it's more than that.

01:47:27.020 For us, it's more than this.

01:47:28.980 It's not just the establishment.

01:47:30.140 This is what they tell you, just the establishment.

01:47:32.040 But for us, they have done that by displacing people, colonizing their land, and taking away their homes, taking away their land.

01:47:38.900 For us, Zionism is not good.

01:47:41.100 Okay.

01:47:41.940 For who?

01:47:42.280 For Arabs and Muslims, because they took a land from Palestinians under the pretense of this thing.

01:47:49.240 And then they tell you, it's decolonization.

01:47:51.480 If Israel moved out of the territory there, do you think that another group would move right into it?

01:47:57.620 No, I don't think.

01:47:58.980 There's like, there's seven or eight million Jews in Israel.

01:48:02.920 That's a lot of people to move out.

01:48:05.620 Right.

01:48:05.740 But I'm just saying, say if that was vacated, would it not with the Syrians or Egyptians or somebody else cruise right in there?

01:48:11.380 No, because there are already Palestinians there.

01:48:13.420 And how many Palestinians live in Israel?

01:48:15.360 Okay.

01:48:17.060 There are 3.5 million who live in the West Bank.

01:48:20.540 2.3 million live in Gaza.

01:48:23.020 So a total of eight.

01:48:24.900 Inside Israel, in the territory, there are 2 million Palestinians live in Israel.

01:48:31.340 And there are 7 million Palestinians who live outside refugees.

01:48:36.540 And where is one of the largest spaces of Palestinians outside of?

01:48:40.140 Jordan.

01:48:41.080 Jordan.

01:48:41.560 Jordan.

01:48:42.000 What about in America?

01:48:43.380 No, maybe there are like half a million.

01:48:44.880 Maybe Michigan?

01:48:46.000 No, no, no.

01:48:47.100 Michigan, there's a lot of Muslims, but many of them are Lebanese, many of them are Iraqis.

01:48:51.380 Some of them are Palestinians.

01:48:52.560 I think they are about like 400,000 in America.

01:48:59.620 A total of 7 million outside of Palestine.

01:49:03.340 7 million.

01:49:04.060 Some of them are refugees.

01:49:05.080 Some of them are citizens of other countries now.

01:49:07.740 How much longer do you think Palestine?

01:49:08.980 I see, 175.

01:49:10.540 Oh, 175,000 Palestinian Americans.

01:49:12.140 In America, yeah.

01:49:13.280 Wow.

01:49:13.760 That's like 0.05.

01:49:15.540 They're very small.

01:49:16.180 Some of them are on Wilshire every other Saturday.

01:49:19.260 What are you talking about?

01:49:19.840 Yeah.

01:49:20.640 Yeah.

01:49:20.780 Some of them have the best restaurants here.

01:49:26.440 Well, yeah.

01:49:27.300 Yeah.

01:49:28.240 I'm super glad we got to talk about it.

01:49:30.780 Sorry for some stuff I was kind of like trying to like, you know, I just, I think some stuff,

01:49:35.980 I don't know what if it's like, I don't know what to say, I guess.

01:49:38.800 And sometimes I just listen because I don't know how to like, some conversations I just, you just don't know what to say or do.

01:49:45.520 Yeah, and I understand because for Americans, Americans have so much to worry about.

01:49:49.120 They have to worry about their own daily life and their own like paying their bills.

01:49:52.720 And then it's like, why do we have to care about this remote place in the Middle East that we will never see?

01:49:57.520 And now why is this like, this is like an everyday, this is an everyday, this is an everyday.

01:50:02.120 Why do we have, and I, and I feel for them.

01:50:04.080 But the reason why Americans should care about that, because that is affecting our government, our democracy, our way of life.

01:50:13.120 Because if you're an American, you think this is remotely, they're remote from you.

01:50:18.000 No, it doesn't because it affects the way that you speak about politics.

01:50:20.660 You hear many times, you say, I don't know if I'm going to go to jail.

01:50:23.560 Well, if you talk about something that's happening that foreign, you shouldn't be worried about going to jail.

01:50:29.960 You should be worried about talking, talking about the government giving that much money for destruction.

01:50:35.860 So it affects you, whether you like it or not, it affects you.

01:50:40.000 Yeah, I think one of the bigger problems that we have is that we facilitate so much war and weaponry in the world to try and leverage things.

01:50:50.320 But then maybe that needs to happen for us to have the safety we have.

01:50:54.340 And maybe we're, you know, it's just, it's hard to know all that stuff, how one thing affects the other, you know?

01:51:01.280 But you see, I find that this is actually the end result of every conversation.

01:51:04.900 Oh, we don't know.

01:51:05.760 Maybe this is what will happen just in order.

01:51:07.400 But that's like a way to stay complacent.

01:51:10.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:51:11.380 Because what is happening is not right.

01:51:13.340 All of this money, all of these billions of dollars coming out from our pockets, that is not right.

01:51:18.640 And I'm talking about money, politics, and freedom.

01:51:21.540 These are the three things that are the cornerstones of American life.

01:51:23.900 That's a good point.

01:51:24.240 Our politics, our freedom, and our money.

01:51:25.840 If we don't know where our money is going and why, and why is our politics is being taken over by a foreign lobby, that is wrong.

01:51:36.760 Yeah.

01:51:36.960 And you need to start from there.

01:51:39.420 Yeah.

01:51:39.880 It just breaks my heart.

01:51:40.860 I mean, I just, you see what happens over there, and it's heartbreaking.

01:51:43.880 And it's like, well, how do you, yeah, I just wanted to learn a little bit more about it.

01:51:46.500 And I wanted to get some perspective from somebody that was at least able to speak about it and who was willing to speak up about it.

01:51:53.300 You know, and you've spoken vibrantly about it.

01:51:55.440 And I understand how difficult it is because maybe some of your listeners, your audience, don't really care about that stuff.

01:52:01.000 So, and maybe for them, this is too heavy.

01:52:03.220 But for the people who are interested, what you did is to bring a problem that affects us whether we like it or not.

01:52:10.080 And I'm happy that you're bringing a rabbi to speak on a totally opposite level.

01:52:16.720 And I'm happy that when people have more questions, you bring more people to speak to you.

01:52:20.300 I'm happy to come back again and talk to the people.

01:52:23.260 And because at the end of the day, you listen not just for entertainment, but for education.

01:52:26.860 Yeah.

01:52:27.020 And there's so many things in that world that I don't know.

01:52:29.000 So, I listen to shows that will tell me.

01:52:31.700 So, I just want, I'm not here to attack anybody.

01:52:34.820 I'm not here to say bad things about anybody.

01:52:37.800 I'm here to just invite people to be more curious and to understand how things work and to form their own opinion and not just give up to, oh, this is the way it is.

01:52:49.240 We can't change anything.

01:52:50.360 Because if you said that, nothing would change.

01:52:52.160 And then you will come up tomorrow and you will complain about why things are not changing.

01:52:57.020 It just needs to start from asking questions.

01:53:01.220 Yeah.

01:53:01.560 Asking questions, open your mind.

01:53:03.540 And I will be more than happy to come back again and talk about, I'm sure that you can have so many questions, so many rebuttals, like ask him this, ask him that.

01:53:11.680 And I'm happy to come and if you would get me on the show again.

01:53:15.180 And I'm happy to speak.

01:53:16.400 You see how we talked?

01:53:17.720 It was nothing.

01:53:18.440 There's nothing threatening of what we did today.

01:53:20.640 Yeah.

01:53:21.140 There's nothing anti-Semitic.

01:53:22.340 There's nothing Islamophobic.

01:53:23.380 We didn't go and attack people from different faiths.

01:53:28.720 We just talk about politics and I might be wrong, but prove me wrong.

01:53:32.940 Oh, yeah.

01:53:33.920 Asim, thank you so much, man.

01:53:35.180 Thank you so much.

01:53:35.720 I really appreciate you.

01:53:36.720 Yeah.

01:53:37.100 Inshallah.

01:53:37.600 What do people say?

01:53:38.780 Inshallah is like if God wills.

01:53:40.620 If God wills.

01:53:41.280 If God wills.

01:53:42.120 Inshallah.

01:53:42.880 Inshallah.

01:53:43.760 Inshallah or Inshallah?

01:53:45.040 Inshallah.

01:53:45.960 Inshallah.

01:53:46.640 I was just like, Inshallah.

01:53:47.960 Inshallah.

01:53:48.420 Yeah.

01:53:49.160 That's it.

01:53:51.180 Amazing.

01:53:51.500 Inshallah.

01:53:52.060 Inshallah.

01:53:53.140 Yes.

01:53:53.860 You can, people can find you.

01:53:56.060 Bessim Yusuf.xyz or Bessim at Instagram.

01:53:59.460 I'm starting my Montreal.

01:54:02.560 I'm coming 20th of July.

01:54:04.420 Then I'm going a whole American tour in Florida, Chicago, Minneapolis.

01:54:09.040 Let's go.

01:54:09.620 San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis.

01:54:12.520 I said that.

01:54:13.000 Yeah.

01:54:13.560 Tampa, Orlando, Toronto.

01:54:17.900 So I'll see you guys.

01:54:19.340 Marvelous.

01:54:19.900 Yeah.

01:54:20.060 If you haven't seen this guy, watch also his interview with Piers Morgan.

01:54:23.840 It's insightful and interesting and funny, you know?

01:54:28.320 And it's okay to say that, you know, we have to laugh in times of pain.

01:54:31.320 That's why God put it into us.

01:54:32.840 Thank you.

01:54:33.260 And yeah, just thank you so much for your time, brother.

01:54:35.880 Thank you for having me.

01:54:37.180 Thank you for the space.

01:54:38.440 Thank you for accommodating me.

01:54:40.580 I appreciate you.

01:54:41.300 Love all of your listeners, guys.

01:54:42.880 Love you all.

01:54:43.380 Now I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:54:49.040 I must be cornerstone.

01:54:54.440 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:54:59.680 And I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take...

01:55:06.680 I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take...

01:55:07.940 You know what?

01:55:13.000 What?

01:55:13.480 You know what?

01:55:15.460 You're not.

01:55:19.280 Thanks, fellas.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - July 30, 2024

E521 Bassem Youssef

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