00:02:21.000By now, I'm sure all of you have seen the story.
00:02:23.000Dave Chappelle mocking Charlie Kirk's assassination over the weekend at a sold out show at Madison Square Garden.
00:02:30.000Now, many people are saying he told a joke.
00:02:32.000He did, kind of, but his first statement wasn't a joke.
00:02:35.000He said that ever since Charlie Kirk was murdered, he's felt better.
00:02:39.000That's not a joke, that's just him saying he feels good.
00:02:41.000And many people stormed out of the event.
00:02:43.000I don't know if it was like everybody, but fans filmed themselves leaving saying he was just complaining about politics for like 80 minutes.
00:03:00.000He said, I'm sure Charlie Kirk is looking up at us, laughing so hard he can't breathe, which is, I would call it a joke, but it was a diss.
00:03:08.000This is why it sparked a lot of outrage.
00:03:09.000A diss is when the people are behind you and you're insulting someone so that you can laugh at them.
00:03:15.000It is a kind of joke, but it's at someone else's expense intentionally.
00:03:19.000And the issue, of course, Dave Chappelle was imitating, was making a play on Tony Hinchcliffe's joke.
00:03:25.000About George Floyd, in which he said quite literally the exact same thing, which has sparked a massive controversy with people on the left saying people on the right are hypocrites because they don't support free speech.
00:03:36.000Of course, I'm going to break it all down for you.
00:03:39.000We here at Tim Cass are going to break it down for you so you can understand.
00:03:42.000I'll just say it outright no one has principles.
00:03:45.000I just literally don't think anybody does.
00:03:47.000Maybe here and there, I might have some.
00:04:42.000George Floyd was a career criminal who victimized people violently, he was in the process of committing a crime and doing drugs behind the wheel of a vehicle, actively resisting arrest.
00:04:53.000And the guy who showed up after all of this, Chauvin, by all means, I don't think he was completely innocent, but he shows up after.
00:05:00.000George Floyd resists arrest, says, I can't breathe, put me on the ground.
00:05:03.000And they put that guy in prison for the rest of his life, as well as the rest of the officers.
00:05:09.000I don't think anybody should be commended for it.
00:05:11.000But we are looking at people like Dave Chappelle who venerate career criminals, people who hold pregnant women at knife point, who chew speedballs, meth and fentanyl, by the wheel of a car.
00:05:53.000Secret Service and National Guard brought him down while he screamed.
00:05:55.000Hey, that happened again a few days ago.
00:05:57.000A second guy apparently jumped the barrier today, too.0.95
00:06:00.000Holy crap, it's just so crazy, isn't it?0.53
00:06:02.000And then you got Jennifer Welch, the I've Had It podcast.0.91
00:06:04.000She's lost an estimated 28 sponsors because she pulled up a tweet where someone said, We're going to dig up Charlie and do it again, and then laughed for like 30 seconds.0.91
00:06:38.000I've been recently commenting on a variety of public issues involving lawfare for a variety of different outlets American Mind, Chronicles, The Federalist.
00:06:45.000When I was a prosecutor, I handled a whole bunch of different trials, espionage, fraud, some of the largest trials in the country in 2021.
00:06:53.000Not the largest, but two of the largest.
00:06:55.000The largest was the trial of Officer Derek Chauvin, which you referenced earlier.
00:06:59.000And I think it's important to get to the truth of this because, again, as I stated, we're in bizarre.
00:07:05.000We are looking, the left is a bizarro version of America in that Derek Chauvin, for whatever your criticisms of him are, they believe some weird fantasy nightmare reality of what really happened.
00:07:16.000And I want to break that down because I do believe this is obviously why Dave Chappelle chose to mock Charlie Kirk the way he did.
00:07:35.000We never worked together, which is probably a good thing now that I think about it because we were going down some rabbit holes there.
00:07:42.000Long term Republican, long term professional economist, worked for the White House, worked for a few other agencies, taught in the universities for a while, had my own business for a long while.
00:07:56.000I worked on the road for 11 and a half years in South Florida.
00:07:59.000Around the time I joined the Libertarian Party out of fiscal disappointment with the Republican Party, I served as the Libertarian Party's vice presidential nominee in 2024.
00:08:10.000My team and I rejoined the Republican Party, joined the Republican Liberty Caucus last year, and very excited to be now launching a campaign to earn the vice presidential nomination of the Republican Party, a campaign that's never been run before, which is probably everything you need to know about whether or not it's a good idea.
00:08:27.000I think it's a fantastic idea, but this is just to be the vice president in 2028.
00:08:33.000To run and earn the nomination in 2028, we want the national delegates to weigh in on who they would like to have as the presidential nominee rather than just blindly deferring to the presidential nominee, as has been tradition.
00:10:01.000Keat is a peer to peer encrypted messaging and file sharing app.
00:10:05.000So you can talk to your friends without some creepy middleman taking all your data.
00:10:08.000Now, these big companies, they like to come out and they say that their apps are.
00:10:12.000They protect your data, but they still centralize all that information on servers and it can still be accessed and your metadata and other things can still be found.
00:13:11.000I don't know exactly what was said in that capacity.
00:13:13.000But several people were like, yeah, there was no punchline.
00:13:16.000He was just basically saying he hated Charlie Kirk, was calling him racist and things like this.
00:13:20.000So, right now, the big debate is whether or not.
00:13:23.000The right supports or opposes free speech.
00:13:27.000So I'll say a couple of things for all of these people.
00:13:31.000You've got, I'm going to shout out my low order thinker libertarians, not all libertarians, just the low order thinker ones, who don't have any moral foundations other than liberty.
00:13:43.000Check out Jonathan Knight's Moral Foundation research.
00:13:45.000You'll be surprised at what some of these people support.
00:13:53.000Okay, to be fair, there are sometimes, somewhere.
00:13:56.000Almost no one operates on principles, and those that say they do are lying.
00:14:02.000Some do, 99.9% don't, and it is no exception in the culture war.
00:14:07.000This is to say, I say this with total derision to most people who are activists in the culture war, but I will also say this with respect to those who are cognizant of this.
00:14:15.000Humans operate on moral frameworks, not principles.
00:14:20.000This means there is a line some people think you should not cross, and others think it's fine to cross.
00:14:27.000That is, when you insult, when a society denigrates a career criminal, drug abuser who is resisting arrest, we say, yeah, well, that's who we should mock.
00:14:37.000A society draws its line saying, those people should be derided to discourage people from doing those things.
00:14:44.000And you venerate the men who stand up for righteousness, for good, for order, for making this country stronger and more prosperous, particularly when they are murdered in cold blood.
00:14:58.000It is an absurd and stupid notion to argue, I have a principle that you should never mock the dead.1.00
00:15:04.000No, there are terrorists and murderers and child rapists, and we want society to know that should you engage in those behaviors, we will mock you and your legacy will be a dirty diaper.0.99
00:15:15.000And those that stand for good, who will sacrifice themselves for what is better, we build statues in your honor.
00:15:22.000That's always been the distinction.0.94
00:15:24.000So you got the low order thinker libertarians calling conservatives hypocrites, but don't get me wrong, you got conservative hypocrites claiming Dave Chappelle was never funny, which is just Ridiculous considering he's the most famous comedian in the world.0.96
00:16:05.000First and foremost, I think Dave Chappelle was at one point one of the funniest comedians around.
00:16:09.000I think The Chappelle Show was one of the best shows around in its prime.
00:16:14.000Ever since Chappelle kind of aged more, he stopped kind of telling jokes, and now his comedy special has just turned into these annoying, obnoxious lectures that I really hate.0.98
00:16:23.000And comedy pretends nowadays, I feel like, or for a long time, pretend to be truth tellers, but are just usually obnoxious assholes.0.96
00:16:30.000And I think that's what the case is here with Chappelle.0.95
00:16:32.000I think he knew what he was doing, but I think this is also very clearly and obviously conservative bait.
00:16:37.000I think he knew what he was doing because he was like quoting this Ratcliffe joke, and he knew he was going to hit the conservatives with the freak.
00:16:48.000But he knew that he'd be able to hit the conservatives with the free speech argument and say that they're a bunch of hypocrites.0.93
00:16:55.000I think we just, at this point, the culture is so messed up in how bloodthirsty and excited and how people laugh at the pain of the Kirk family.0.93
00:17:41.000So let's disregard that premise entirely.
00:17:43.000The First Amendment protects five things the freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom to petition the government for redress of grievances, and freedom of speech.
00:17:51.000Freedom of speech means you are secure in your right vis a vis the government to say what you want.
00:17:58.000But that has nothing to do with whether we can criticize other people for speaking publicly, shame them, remove them from the public square.
00:18:04.000It just means that the government can't stop them.
00:18:07.000Yes, but that's not the argument being made right now.
00:18:08.000The argument being made right now is that the right argued for the right to free speech as it pertained to offensive jokes and now are not arguing for it because they offended.
00:18:17.000No, we are arguing, well, I am arguing that you should have the capacity to speak freely vis a vis the government.
00:18:23.000The government should not be able to stop you.
00:18:26.000When you exercise that right, you are also bringing upon yourself the opportunity to be mocked out of the public square.
00:18:31.000And my strictly limited point here is this is not hypocrisy.
00:18:43.000The cancel culture war centered around social media companies and other companies either firing employees or censoring and banning people, these were private companies doing it.
00:18:52.000And the left argued you have no right to free speech on a private platform owned by other people.
00:18:59.000I think that when Twitter or X owns the monopoly on the public square, there has to be some capacity by which individuals can participate in public.
00:19:09.000So I've never agreed with this free speech, you know, this leftist argument or whatever it may be.
00:19:15.000But the argument made by conservatives was Facebook shouldn't censor people.
00:19:19.000So there's a difference between when Dave Chappelle in 2019 was calling out political correctness at the height of cancel culture, I called him a hero.
00:20:42.000Dave Chappelle was not doing this to prove a point.
00:20:46.000That's a fine opinion, but I disagree with that psychoanalysis.
00:20:51.000In my view, I think Dave Chappelle is personally hurt when he watches Tony Hinchcliffe make that joke and everyone laughs.
00:20:58.000Because to Dave, in his mind, George Floyd was an innocent guy murdered by the police, and we're laughing at him.
00:21:04.000And we're laughing at the pain he's experienced.
00:21:06.000The problem is, Dave Chappelle is factually wrong and has no idea what he's talking about.
00:21:11.000This is what most liberals do and how most liberals are.
00:21:13.000They live in a bizarre world of fake information, they don't even know what they're talking about half the time.
00:21:17.000So instead of looking into what happened, Dave Chappelle has an emotional knee jerk reaction, thinks George Flo is an innocent guy who was brutally murdered by the cops instead of a career criminal who was resisting arrest, still should not have died, but I digress.0.94
00:21:30.000And so he says, If you needle me, I'm going to needle you.
00:21:38.000If we are to exist in a radio Rwanda society where there is always an escalating tit for tat, I hope you guys have bought your safeandreadymeals.com emergency food.0.67
00:21:48.000Because my fear after Dave Chappelle said this is that someone's going to try and kill him.
00:21:54.000Because this is the most brutal mockery of Charlie Kirk's death I have heard yet.
00:22:00.000And people were buying t shirts covered in his blood.
00:22:03.000And Dave Chappelle went before, was it 30 some odd thousand people at Madison Square Garden and said, When people I don't like are killed, I feel good.
00:22:12.000Now there's going to be someone out there who cried and mourned the death of Charlie, and they're going to say, I'd like to feel good too.
00:22:18.000That's the problem with what Dave Chappelle just did.
00:22:21.000He's opened the door on himself, me, and anybody else who's in the public commentary space.
00:22:26.000That's why it's principally number one wrong to do.
00:22:29.000No one is going around suggesting that you murder people like George Floyd.
00:22:34.000Dave Chappelle got on stage in front of the world and said, it's good when you kill, and that is messed up.
00:22:43.000The other thing that's messed up, and you did a good job of explaining the second comment that he made about the joke about looking up at us.
00:22:49.000The first comment that you showed us, however, that In which Dave had said, you know, I feel better, right?
00:22:57.000I think that may come from a different place.
00:23:00.000I think that Dave is really upset about the fact that we have a conservative culture in America in which a lot of people, like Charlie Kirk, actually believe in a certain set of values and it drives Dave crazy.
00:23:16.000I think that he really resents a whole lot of thinking of a conservative nature.
00:23:22.000I am not convinced that he doesn't feel better over this.
00:23:26.000I think Dave is messed up, and I think he's a part of this victim culture that we have in all too many circles in the United States where we lift up victimhood and we praise people who have failed.
00:23:39.000And I think that that's where Dave is coming from.
00:23:42.000You know, one of the things I find fascinating about this, too, is that I was looking it up, but Charlie Kirk actually tweeted out in support of Dave Chappelle when he was attacked allegedly by some like.
00:24:21.000What that suggests is that the Overton window has shifted in the last five years.
00:24:25.000That now, that never would have happened five years ago that a left wing comedian, and I agree that Dave Chappelle is very funny, that he would have made a comment that was politically inflammatory and that anybody would have walked out or suggested anything to him.
00:24:38.000It wouldn't have been considered politically inflammatory.
00:24:42.000Apparently, according to some of the people that were there, They said that when people started walking out on them, and like they were groans, they were jeers, some people cheered, some people yelled F Charlie.0.98
00:24:51.000When people started walking out, Dave apparently complained this crowd sucks.0.96
00:24:56.000That's according to one person who was there.0.95
00:25:00.000Look, this whole idea that woke is dead, that there is not a culture war going on in the United States.
00:25:09.000There are a lot of people on the right that thought, oh, Donald Trump won the election, and we are going to have now, you know, we're going to have control of the culture, et cetera.
00:25:18.000The conservatives or people on the right, I think is probably a better way to describe it.
00:25:22.000They don't have control of the culture, but they do have influence now.
00:25:26.000And I think that that's kind of been the way that it's always been.
00:25:30.000There was a time where if you said something that was politically correct, like in the 90s, you could get people trying to boycott you and stuff.
00:25:38.000This was generally if the right didn't like it.
00:25:41.000And then the pendulum swung and the left kind of took over the culture.
00:25:45.000And then by 2010, you could lose whatever for saying the wrong thing, 2012, whatever it was.
00:25:52.000But there was always kind of a stalemate, right?
00:25:54.000Like the right had enough influence to be able to actually, you know, threaten to boycott or threaten to get people fired.
00:26:03.000The left then became ascendant and then they had all the influence.
00:26:06.000But I think now it's kind of going to kind of gone back to the situation where, look, if you say something insensitive, there is enough energy on the right and enough energy on the left where you can get some kind of, you know, social consequences.
00:26:22.000And, Now it seems Dave is going to be.
00:26:25.000I think what's going to happen now, you've got this viral clip of James Carville saying Democrats were lying the whole time.
00:26:54.000Yeah, or I should be careful how he phrased it, but he basically was like, if they start going after the Trump administration illicitly, he's going to go after them.
00:27:02.000So I'm just going to say it like this The New York Times published an article a few days ago saying we're in the fourth great crisis of America.
00:27:10.000Oh boy, I wonder what that sounds like.
00:27:12.000And they make reference to the Civil War and World War II and the Great Depression.
00:27:36.000The people who shut up for Charlie Kirk's funeral, the people who believe in more than just who Charlie was, I want to make this distinction.
00:27:45.000When George Floyd died, people tried to burn the country down.
00:27:49.000In fact, it was like, what, $4 or $5 billion in damage nationwide.
00:27:54.000And 30 some odd people were killed after George Floyd died.
00:27:59.000When Charlie Kirk died, there was no riot.
00:28:02.000But that anger is pent up, and people still have it.
00:28:06.000And George Floyd is trying to throw fire onto that powder keg.
00:28:11.000To say this to so many people who have not reacted to the murder of someone they followed, they cared about, or someone that many of them loved, with no reaction, to see this man, I want to make sure people understand it is painful to watch these college kids wear the freedom shirts covered in blood for Halloween, and they all did it.
00:28:31.000They were doing it all over the place.
00:28:32.000The young woman who went and told the poem about the Kirk Aversary, how they memified the murder of this guy, the murder of him.
00:28:40.000And conservatives still have not reacted with violence.0.94
00:28:44.000They are being needled every day and they are being spat on, being told, we will kill you and we will laugh and we will get away with it.
00:28:51.000What scares me the most is that Dave Chappelle is one of the biggest possible personalities on the planet.
00:28:57.000And he decided he was going to give permission to everybody, that he was going to look into the eyes of every Charlie Kirk fan and say, I feel good about this.
00:29:11.000I think the point you made in the beginning, how the government is going to be going after businesses, going after private citizens and stuff like that to try to cool the impulse for either political activism or to be involved with the administration, I think that signals the most stressing situation.
00:29:32.000Let me put it like this What we are seeing right now with the Democrats, those people you saw on the street throwing Molotov cocktails eight years ago, Yeah, those are the people in Congress now.
00:29:48.000You've got 25 confirmed gender non conforming individuals who won in this midterm.
00:29:54.000These are people who I guarantee you were out marching in those streets.
00:29:58.000Not suggesting they were doing anything violent.
00:30:00.000And not just them, but in this wave, you are getting people who 10 years ago were the fringe activists who were marching in these streets that were engaging in violence or whatever it might be.
00:30:27.000The security apparatus of the United States government would never allow it.
00:30:29.000And we are literally here right now with street level far left activists holding the reins of political power.
00:30:37.000I said it before and I'll say it again.
00:30:38.000Populations don't change their politics, their politics are developed as children, as young people, and they grow into the political system.
00:30:47.000That's why Nick Fuentes is getting 80,000 concurrent viewers.
00:30:51.000And getting half a million to a million views per show despite being banned everywhere.
00:30:55.000Young men who followed him developed those politics, are now entering the political space with those politics.
00:31:01.000What we are going to see is here's how I described it.
00:31:05.000Back in the day, the left and the right were very close to each other with an overlap.
00:31:10.000As time went on, they slowly started to move away from each other.
00:31:13.000The younger generation is down here, the older generation is up here.0.60
00:31:17.000You take two boomers, they're going to grant a lot of things.0.52
00:31:19.000You take two Gen Z, and they're not going to grant anything.0.90
00:31:23.000As the boomers die off and our generations move, the center of American politics is getting spread further and further out till eventually we get stuff like this Dave Chappelle gloating over the murder of a guy for politics.0.98
00:31:38.000Well, a 20 year old who protests becomes a 30 year old who runs for office, becomes a 40 year old president, becomes a 40 year old member of Congress, who becomes a 50 year old who passes a bill saying, Gulag the right.0.87
00:31:50.000And eventually you get two vehicles, two black SUVs.0.73
00:31:53.000Speeding down DC towards the police station, two men jump out, run up to the building, and scream, Arrest that man, at each other.
00:32:01.000And then the police are going to make a decision.
00:32:03.000And depending on who controls law enforcement and violence, makes a determination.
00:32:07.000If this is to continue with the Democrats threatening to go after private citizens for their political opinions, or Slotkin saying she'll go after junior staffers, then the end result is fairly obvious, in my opinion.
00:32:19.000Either the right says, guess you win, left, revolution.
00:32:24.000The left now has more than enough state legislatures to overturn the electoral college, eliminating a constitutional protection.
00:32:32.000And they make it blocked by the Supreme Court because there are some arguments against how they could pull this off, but.
00:32:37.000Functionally, they could eliminate the Electoral College in 2028.
00:32:44.000That is the dissolution of our constitutional government when they rip that through secondary means.
00:32:50.000Will the right just say, guess you win?
00:32:52.000Will the left then take 2028 and make Puerto Rico, D.C., Guam states, the Virgin Islands, add eight new Democrats senators so the right can never win again?
00:34:19.000The left is on our team are all the normal people.
00:34:22.000And then we have this other political class team in America that has an interest in conflict on the left and on the right who dehumanize the other side to your point.
00:34:34.000This is, you know, Dave is an example of someone who is not on my team.
00:34:37.000And that's not because he's on the left and I'm on the right.
00:34:39.000It's because he's crazy and he doesn't want people to get along in a way.0.90
00:34:43.000So, which political leader on the right is advocating for death and gloating over the murder of leftists?0.93
00:35:07.000But crossing the line is when you murder people and gloat over their death, and that's the left.1.00
00:35:12.000So, when people on the right say, I think the left is crazy or they're a cult or you're an idiot, you're a moron, well, that's.1.00
00:35:19.000Crass, but acceptable within politics.1.00
00:35:22.000When the left says it's good that Charlie died and they feel good and they wear Halloween costumes of blood spout on their necks, that's the people advocating for murder and death.
00:35:30.000There's a huge difference, but I don't think it necessarily means in the next couple of years they're going to eliminate, for example, the Electoral College.0.98
00:35:36.000I just don't think the Democratic Party has its shit together sufficient.0.96
00:35:40.000That's not one of the words I'm not allowed to use.0.99
00:35:56.000The Democratic Party doesn't have a mandate.
00:35:59.000Every blue state that's gotten a legislative majority has passed the interstate compact.
00:36:02.000And also, and now we've got six more states that just reached that blue majority.
00:36:07.000I do not think the trend says they would not do it.
00:36:10.000And to be real, real quick, to be fair, we have seen this in Congress time and time again where the Democrat leadership will go to one person and say, spike the vote because we want the issue.
00:36:20.000The only problem is the national popular vote interstate compact is two states, two over the thresholds to accomplish it, which would mean the Democratic Party would have to convince two of the six not to vote on what they've campaigned on.
00:36:35.000It's that whoever would win the national popular vote, they'd commit all their electoral votes to it.
00:36:40.000They pledged to subvert the Constitution.
00:36:44.000To your point about a mandate, though, the people that were elected, like the Democrats, I think it's highly likely that they believe that this is a mandate.
00:36:55.000They don't look at this and say, and I get the sense because I've talked to some of my friends that are actually on the left, and they don't get the sense that this is because of.
00:37:04.000The war and because of inflation and because of gas prices.
00:37:07.000They get the sense that this is a repudiation of Trump.
00:37:10.000The people don't like Trump and the people don't like Trump for all of the reasons that the Democrats don't like Trump.
00:37:16.000It's not because, you know, I can't pay my bills.
00:37:18.000I don't have, you know, the prospects of getting a home and I'm, you know, 25, 30.
00:37:23.000I don't, you know, I don't like the Iran war.
00:37:24.000He promised that we wouldn't go to war.
00:37:26.000I agree with you from a conservative or from a realistic perspective.
00:37:44.000So they might get people that really don't like what they do.
00:37:49.000They might get people that would kick them out of office because of the things that they do.
00:37:53.000But the things that we're talking about, things like expanding the court, the things like overriding the state compact, all of those things, they would do.
00:38:25.000I'm sure you've seen the graphs showing that the right has all these different camps spattered all over the place, and they all tear each other's throats apart.
00:38:31.000The libertarians broke from Trump a while ago over the war in Iran and the Epstein files.
00:38:36.000On the left, they're all hyper centralized around one cluster.
00:38:40.000This means you are going to see what we call the standalone complex, and I think you do.
00:38:44.000That is, you do not need to instruct a Democrat as to, or a liberal, as to what is the appropriate course of action towards victory.
00:38:51.000You do not need to go to a polling location and tell the liberal, when you're doing signature verification, throw the Trump in the garbage or throw the Biden in the winners.0.54
00:39:22.000So it doesn't care about those institutions.
00:39:23.000It doesn't care about the form of government, and it doesn't care about the rule of law.
00:39:27.000And the other side does care about those things.
00:39:29.000But they recognize that in order to stop the first side, they might have to do some things that break those rules.
00:39:35.000And the right does not know how to do that.
00:39:37.000And it doesn't know how far we can push the rules, how far we can bend them, what tactics we can use in order to send a message that the other side's lawlessness will not be tolerated.
00:39:47.000There are some techniques that can be used, which would be a third option from versus rolling over versus civil war that can be deployed.
00:39:54.000And some of them are now being deployed for the very first time.
00:39:58.000Well, one, for example, would be Jeff Clark's organization called Operation Oversight, which is functionally a lawfare campaign brought by the right.
00:40:06.000So, what it is, is it's not using the spirit of the law.
00:40:09.000For example, when the left tried to take John Eastman's law license, the former advisor to President Trump, they were technically complying with the letter of the law, but not complying with the spirit of law.
00:40:18.000Same thing with the indictments of Donald Trump.
00:40:19.000I wrote about these issues extensively.
00:40:22.000We can comply with the technical, literal meaning of the law and use the processes and the institutions to send a strong message to those who would engage in lawlessness.
00:40:42.000What is effective is communicating to Jack Smith personally that you personally will incur legal bills defending your legal license, which is what the National Civil Liberties Alliance recently did, brought a lawsuit against him on behalf of Marshall Blackburn in the state of Tennessee.
00:40:58.000And if you impose specific costs on specific leftist activists, on them specifically, Not on the movement generally, but on specific human beings, then you can cut potentially the head off.
00:41:27.000They are a fluttering group of thousands of birds aimlessly fluttering about, just somehow watching each other and moving in the right directions.
00:41:51.000When you go to a county fair and you're supposed to guess on how much a cow weighs, and 10,000 people guess, it's a common misunderstanding that the median happens to be correct on that bell curve.
00:42:00.000A lot of people bid too high, a lot of people bid too low, but in reality, what happens is most people do not know how much a cow weighs, and a few people know a lot, and those guys get it right.
00:42:09.000That murmuration is not just some group mob organization that's emerging like spontaneous order.
00:42:14.000What's actually happening is that there are a few heads to this hydra and they can be cut off.
00:42:24.000And then if you prosecute two or three people specifically, like for example, Jack Smith and others, that would send a very strong deterrence message.
00:42:32.000I agree with you generally, but I don't think it's coordinated enough to act as a group.
00:42:37.000The murmuration still requires the first bird to move in a particular direction.
00:43:03.000Here's what I would say if you're Todd Blanch at the Department of Justice, your opportunities now to bring effective lawsuits or criminal cases, among other things, are limited.
00:43:11.000And the reason they're limited is because you're seeing mass defections.
00:43:14.000You know that you're going to be lawfared, and you know that the criminal litigation itself will take longer than two years in most cases, which means you're banking on JD Vance or Marco Rubio winning.
00:43:23.000That's a career gamble that most people will not take.
00:43:25.000Trump's going to prison January 21st, 2029.
00:43:29.000The New York State criminal convictions are pending.
00:43:31.000They're just frozen until he's out of office.
00:43:33.000There is absolutely the concern that the left would continue to subvert the American system of governance by seeing those prosecutions through.
00:43:51.000There are other things that can be done, though.
00:43:54.000So, for example, the full faith and credit clause of the United States Constitution requires that one state abide by the laws of another state when it comes to the enforcement of those laws in that other state.
00:44:02.000So, if you're in Florida, for example, and New York issues a warrant for your arrest, then Florida's supposed to comply with it.
00:44:09.000But there are intelligent ways that Governor DeSantis could tell Donald Trump, well, no, hear me out, though.
00:45:11.000And Donald Trump could have responded with, you are free to come and serve me at my home.
00:45:15.000And Ron DeSantis could have said, state police will not allow a fraudulent charge because there was no underlying crime to the falsification for an upgrade.
00:45:44.000But today, more Americans are aware that the West is in crisis.
00:45:47.000And so the question is not whether they did it in 2020, but will they do it now?
00:45:52.000And the answer is not the question is just because they won't do it in every specific instance doesn't mean that they won't do it in many instances.
00:45:58.000I think the reality is palpable, visible to literally everybody who understands going in politically.
00:46:18.000In my world, when I talk to what I call my normie friends who are right coded, but basically normie Americans, the Charlie Kirk murder was the one thing in the last 46 years that has broken through to them.
00:46:28.000I say 46 years because I'm 46 years old.
00:46:54.000As of right now, Gina Milan says, Jennifer Welch says, I've had a podcast.
00:46:58.00028 brands have pulled or ended their sponsorships.
00:47:02.000Now, We can see that two of them may have already ended their sponsorships before.
00:47:07.000But for those that are not familiar, Jennifer Welch on her show pulled up a tweet where someone said, We're going to dig Charlie Kirk up and do it again.
00:47:15.000And then she just started laughing for like 30 seconds.
00:47:18.000Then she claimed the guy who killed Charlie was a MAGA guy, which is a lie.
00:47:23.000And since then, she has lost directly 26 sponsorships, according to this post.
00:47:30.000Now, the last I saw from Colvet was it was like 22.
00:47:45.000But that means there are 26 companies that have broken from her show because she mocked the death of Charlie Kirk.
00:47:52.000So the question remains right now if we want to be optimists, and I am here's what I am hoping the Democrats realize that by winning the center in this midterm, they need to chill the F out, drop this stuff, condemn these people, and keep the Joe Rogans and the Shane Gillises because this is the kind of stuff that makes the middle freak out, like you were just saying.0.51
00:48:15.000I hope the Democrats take that lesson and say, Hey, if we chill out, we might win more elections and have more power and get more of what we want.0.68
00:48:23.000The problem is, then they get in 2028, and more of what they want is communism.
00:48:26.000So I'm still hoping at least it chills things out for a little bit.
00:48:29.000The question will be right now, with the direct ramifications against this lady mocking Charlie Kirk, will anything happen to Dave Chappelle?
00:49:36.000And if you cannot close your venue to a comedian who's subverting the West, then you're just not serious about winning.0.80
00:49:42.000I think a lot of people still think we need more civility in politics, which is nonsense, but a greater percentage of people today are now saying, holy crap, everything is at stake.0.82
00:49:53.000We need more duels in Aaron Burr in politics.0.79
00:49:56.000Well, I will say this no, I want more civility in politics.
00:50:02.000My politics on the political spectrum, we're talking about tax policy and marginal tax rates, would be liberal leaning.
00:50:08.000But these conversations don't exist anymore because right and left no longer are about whether you want a higher or lower tax rate, certain trade policies.
00:50:17.000I'm going to come out and say this.0.66
00:50:18.000There's a guy, there's a viral video where a roofer says he was MAGA and he switched and voted part of the blue wave because Trump was deporting his illegal day laborers.
00:51:30.000We're talking about 25 years of liberal policies that erased overnight because of Trump.
00:51:35.000What I would say is, I agree with that in part.
00:51:37.000There were still people on the left who thought, well, we want to protect American jobs, protect the blue collar worker back in the 1990s and early 2000s.
00:51:46.000But the tendencies of the far left political movement of the country in 1998, 1999, what you'd call woke today, 2000, 2005, were already there.
00:51:55.000I'm talking about the Democratic Party.
00:53:06.000They were motivated, and this is to your cold point, they're motivated by something very different than argumentation and effective reasoning or by bettering the material standards of the Americans.
00:53:14.000They're motivated by a psychological desire to, as Batman would say, watch the world burn.
00:53:55.000Well, I think maybe we're talking past one another.
00:53:57.000I don't disagree that Bernie Sanders is what I am saying is what I'm saying is that the corpus of ideas that leads to today's modern left, the one that wants to exist, Charlie, as a small faction outside of mainstream politics and has slowly taken over.
00:54:09.000It existed in 1960s America and the Great Society program.
00:54:12.000But, but, and it got the president of the United States elected.
00:54:15.000If you think Lyndon Johnson was, was, you know, he wasn't elected the first time around.
00:54:18.000But my point is the president of the United States, who was a Texas Democrat, by the way, after stealing the Senate seat, as Robert Carroll well documented, but Lyndon Johnson, what, What percentage of the country at that time was going to church on the weekends?
00:54:29.000I don't know the answer to that question.
00:55:05.000The people who run the Democratic Party, yes, the big business Republicans, if you were going to use the political divide of the 1990s, you would say that liberal activists had, you know, politics make strange bedfellows.
00:55:17.000Big business Republicans were allied with liberal activists, right?
00:55:20.000They both wanted, you know, certain things that made themselves political bedfellows.
00:55:43.000So, a small faction bubbled up and took over in the last 10 years.
00:55:46.000Well, I'm just disagreeing on the time, but I agree with the principle.
00:55:49.000Yeah, the point at which the curve became visible to most Americans was in the last 10 years.
00:55:55.000But many of us were commenting on it 25 years ago.
00:55:57.000I mean, I was having the same discussions in 2000.
00:56:00.000Like, the left wasn't wrong because their marginal tax rates were too high or because the fractional reserve banking system was out of control.
00:56:26.000Yeah, that's my point the nature of leftism is fundamentally a psychological issue.
00:56:31.000Now, the average voter, to your point, Tim, who votes Democratic, is thinking in the 1950s, 1960s, even the 1970s, 1980s, is seeing an opportunity to better their material standards.
00:56:40.000They see the plutocrats at the top, they think they're being exploited.
00:56:43.000They saw opening China with Nixon was bad for them.
00:56:46.000We didn't bring about a liberal Republican democracy over there.
00:57:37.000TJ, it seems to me that the distinction between leftists who want to support the little guy and leftists who want to tear down institutions is a bit of an artificial distinction.
00:58:58.000The, the, I mean, so what are we, what are we talking about here?
00:59:00.000We're talking about this because, as I said, the West is deep in crisis.
00:59:03.000And it's a strange thing to say that ideas matter so much.
00:59:07.000But the ideas has, as Richard Weaver said, ideas have consequences.
00:59:11.000And the fact is, if you, at some point, the software that's loaded in some person's head is so wildly different than the software that's loaded in another person's head that they have irreconcilable differences.
01:00:21.000In America, if you break the population into three groups, and we were talking about this beforehand, 80% of the people are just concerned about their daily lives, right?
01:00:29.000They've got to pay their mortgage, mow their lawn, raise their kids.
01:00:31.000And when politics comes around, they think about it only because they want to identify what's in their interests and what's in their community's interests, and to a lesser degree, what's in the national interest.
01:01:32.000And I said, if you ask someone what it means to misgender, a liberal will tell you if a trans person says it's she, her, and you use he, him, you're misgendering.0.50
01:01:41.000A conservative would tell you if a person is male and you say her, you've misgendered.0.93
01:01:45.000You've opted to ban half the country.0.51
01:02:34.000This, or you don't have it up there now, but the point is the sponsors did withdraw.0.99
01:02:38.000That is to bring the white pill back just a little bit, because I tend to agree with you.0.92
01:02:42.000I'm only pointing out that just now, whether it's Jeff Clark's organization or pulling sponsors, we are realizing how to do the asymmetric warfare.0.95
01:02:51.000Sponsors pulling their advertising money.
01:02:54.000And the problem now that needs to be understood is while this is a good sign, we should remain optimistic.
01:03:00.000It needs to be stated that following the midterm elections, many big tech companies are now going to be split again.
01:03:06.000And they're going to ask themselves, who is going to kill me and my family?
01:03:10.000That being said, Stephen Miller was just made chief of staff.
01:03:13.000They may still fear Todd Blanch and Donald Trump.
01:03:17.000So now what's going to happen as the big tech companies pulled back from censorship recently, they may take their foot off the gas and just say, We're going to try and do nothing because if Trump, if the right loses in 2028, we're dead.
01:03:51.000In order for the right to win, they need a 67%.
01:03:55.000In order for the left to win, they need 40%.
01:03:58.000Right now, the right, with this, we are seeing the right has 70 plus percent of the population on their side as it pertains to Bud Light with Dylan Mulvaney.
01:04:08.000Shane Gillis didn't like the cancellation.0.98
01:04:10.000But with this midterm election, everybody woke up and went, oh crap.0.90
01:04:16.000I think the left is bigger and more culturally relevant.0.98
01:04:21.000So I'll put it like this If the election did not happen, or I should say the day before the election, nobody had in their mind that Donald Trump was cooked, that MAGA was over.
01:04:31.000Despite the fact that the election results show us they are.
01:04:35.000This means that every Republican who got Trump's endorsement danced around hippy skippy, happy that it got it.
01:05:16.000Not that Fuentes, Nick Fuentes, make that happen, but that Nick Fuentes is the avatar of the Gen Z anger that exists there and why they're voting.0.78
01:05:28.000I'm not suggesting, I'm not condemning nor condoning.
01:05:30.000I'm saying the people who follow him are politically active and listening to what he has to say.
01:05:35.000They voted Democrat, they helped that blue wave.
01:05:39.000It's entirely possible that what we see now with Trump bringing in Stephen Miller is that Trump starts to believe maybe I should have gone harder and these young men would have voted for me instead.
01:05:51.000The question everyone's going to ask themselves: Did Trump lose the midterms because he went too far or he didn't go far enough?
01:05:58.000Because many Trump supporters are saying he didn't arrest enough people.
01:06:01.000Depends on the context, because he definitely went too far when it comes to the war in Iran.
01:06:07.000If that didn't happen, then a lot of people.
01:07:06.000He was riding high in the Nicolas Maduro kidnapping.
01:07:09.000Even a nuclear bomb doesn't solve Iran, and the people that don't want war would have lost their minds if he'd have dropped the nuke in the midterms.
01:07:19.000There's no arguing the merits of a ground invasion nuclear bomb are immaterial to the argument that some people say Trump went too far and some say he did not go far enough.
01:07:28.000There are certainly neocons arguing that Trump's half measures, this is a fact.0.52
01:07:32.000Literally, the neocons, Mark Levin, Trump's negotiation attempts, the terrorist regime failed, and if he just went in and did the job, he would have won.
01:08:00.000My point is, there are neocons in media saying he didn't go hard enough.
01:08:04.000There are libertarians saying he went too hard.
01:08:06.000There are Groypers saying he went too hard, but he didn't go hard enough domestically.
01:08:10.000The question people need to ask right now, what we are looking at for the Republican Party, is they're going to try and parse through whether they went too far or not far enough.
01:08:20.000And the Mark Levin faction of the Republican Party, which exists, are going to suggest Trump didn't go far enough.
01:08:25.000And the Groypers are going to say he went too far.
01:08:27.000And the libertarians, he went too far.0.77
01:08:28.000I think it really depends on your ideology because if you're a Groyper, you probably think he didn't go too far in the immigration stuff, but If you look at how people actually voted, like he lost the Hispanic bloc that he won over.
01:08:39.000And there's a few different things too.
01:08:40.000Like a lot of pro life people think he was way too pro choice.
01:10:10.000Congress has a low approval rating is not because people don't like Congress.
01:10:13.000It's because Congress, as a collective body, can't do anything.
01:10:16.000But when you look at the polling for individual members of Congress, they poll very high.
01:10:19.000Donald Trump pissing everybody off means there's an interesting spattering of he didn't go far enough and he went too far.
01:10:27.000For instance, how do you piss off the immigration diehards and the anti immigration people?
01:10:34.000The anti immigration people are mad because Trump wasn't doing mass deportations, and the pro immigration people were mad that he was too harsh on the ones he did do.
01:11:55.000The young vote's low, the 40 year olds are high, and boomers go low.0.75
01:11:59.000We see a spike from 18 to 24, and then it goes down and then up.
01:12:03.000This younger generation is hyper politically active, and it's not 100% because of gas prices.
01:12:08.000It is about the West and America, which does tie to their economic standing.
01:12:12.000But I want to make one point that I was trying to make before as it pertains to neocons.
01:12:17.000Because people base their worldview on a view count publicly displayed, they do not understand what is happening around them.
01:12:25.000Many people go online and they see a post with millions of views and they assume that must be popular opinion.
01:12:30.000Well, I'm going to let all of you know right now Ben Shapiro does about a million per episode on his audio podcast.
01:12:36.000People look at his YouTube channel and they say, wow, Ben Shapiro's views are gone.
01:12:42.000You know, this like anti Iran, you know, pro war guy is like losing and nobody likes him.
01:12:47.000Look at Tucker Carlson, he's through the roof.
01:12:49.000And then when you actually see Ben Shapiro's numbers, which are published by the New York Times, you go, how the does he do 7 million podcast downloads per week?
01:13:33.000For what it's worth, let me just add one point to this, which is nobody said this recently, which is this it is conceivable that he has succeeded, and the consequence was you lost the midterms catastrophically.
01:13:55.000You do not see an administration spend its entire existence securing oil around the world and then have one off-in-the-corner nuclear program.
01:14:02.000Especially when Iran is threatening the petrodollar.0.52
01:14:06.000So strongly destabilizing the region.0.57
01:14:08.000And the deal for the United States as it pertains to Saudi Arabia and other countries, the petrodollar, is that we are the world police and we will shut down international terrorism to ensure your country can trade.
01:14:18.000In exchange, you buy oil through our system.
01:14:21.000Iran has violated that for generations.
01:14:23.000And they were funding the militia groups, the Houthi rebels, they were bombing the Red Sea.0.78
01:14:27.000Saudi Arabia, shout out to our TimCast members who first pointed it out because I agree, likely goes to Trump and says, We can't ship anything out of Hormuz or the Red Sea because of Iran.0.68
01:14:37.000If you want a petrodollar deal to be re-upped because it's expired, you're going to go and blow them to smithereens.
01:14:42.000That's why Donald Trump re-centered oil in the Gulf.
01:14:50.000That's why he wants the Northwest Passage.
01:14:52.000I do not think that when you look at the entire picture, this gigantic jigsaw puzzle, looking at a unicorn with one piece missing and you go, that piece missing is probably a nuclear bomb.
01:15:18.000So, like Marco Rubio said, Israel was going to go in.
01:15:21.000That was going to lead us, Iran was going to target us in response.0.84
01:15:23.000So, we weren't going in with them.0.90
01:15:25.000I think it's fair to say the U.S. was pressured to start this war because Israel wanted to go in.0.94
01:15:29.000I think Israel's interests are obvious.0.51
01:15:31.000And I think Donald Trump's interests are obvious when you look at the big picture of everything he did.
01:15:35.000And I think the nuclear weapon thing is a lie because you can't go to the American people and say, we want to be the world police and want to secure an international trade by which we blow people up around the world so that we have more money than everyone else.
01:15:48.000They're going to go, ah, not interested in that.
01:15:50.000I agree with you, and I think that we've had a whole lot of discussion here that maybe wasn't meant to let President Trump off the hook, but in effect does.
01:16:00.000The way that he went into the war was poorly thought out, poorly negotiated, poorly strategized, and at the end of the day, poorly executed.
01:16:10.000It was an abject, complete, unmitigated failure.
01:16:30.000That's like his way of claiming victory and trying to not get into a pro that's right, but it's demonstrable evidence that he was lying to us.
01:16:43.000He says the other day, he says a couple days ago, they can't get a nuclear weapon, so maybe I won't bomb them anymore.
01:16:49.000That was the reason why we launched the second phase of the war, according to him, so that they wouldn't be able to get nuclear weapons, right?
01:16:56.000And now Pickaxe Mountain is still here, which he said is where they've moved into the nuclear program.
01:23:21.000And the reality is we simply cannot afford whether we have the money to do so or the ships, you know, the surface level ships to do so or not is beside the point.
01:23:52.000If you say that the reason we want to win is because we want to win, then, unless you're saying that the reason we want to win is because we want to get rich.
01:23:57.000Okay, so that's not what we're saying.
01:23:59.000What we're saying is actually quite clear.0.86
01:24:01.000Iran is outside the petrodollar system and will not agree to our terms.
01:24:04.000No, but why do we wish to preserve the petrodollar system?
01:25:01.000That's the thing that you're trying to protect.
01:25:03.000That's the thing that's at issue or at stake when you're saying, can Iran have or have not a bomb?
01:25:08.000And the point that I'm making right now is discussing whether or not we can go to Iran sounds like an episode of the McNeil Leher News Hour from 1994.0.69
01:25:16.000It's simply not germane to the crisis that we face.
01:26:27.000And I think at this point, we now need to say to Americans if you wish to preserve the identity of what it means to be an American, then you're going to have to sacrifice.
01:26:36.000And the reality is that means that actual human beings in the United States, American citizens, are going to be.
01:26:43.000That the reason, at least one of the presumed reasons, Donald Trump goes to war with Iran and nuclear weapons is a farce and it's laughable, is that the petrodollar.
01:26:53.000Saudi Arabia is off the deal and threatening to go cut deals with China and Russia instead.
01:26:57.000All of a sudden, we find ourselves shoring up the Gulf of America, renaming it the Gulf of America, taking out Venezuela, getting back our oil assets, isolating Cuba, pacifying the entire Caribbean, renegotiating Panama and the Northwest Passage.
01:27:10.000It looks like Trump is setting contingencies for when the petrodollar falls because when it falls, the economy is going to fall 10x.
01:27:17.000So if you thought it was bad enough that what we're dealing with this war and high gas prices, what happens to this country, regardless of your shared moral foundation, when gas goes to $15 a gallon?
01:27:29.000I would flip that exactly around and say, We can predict what will happen to the country based upon the scope of the shared moral foundation.
01:27:35.000If we have a shared cultural consensus, then we will survive and we will succeed and rebuild if your dystopian future comes to fruition.
01:27:44.000We have a long enough shared moral foundation for 100 years.
01:27:49.000I would say since the Great Society really began eroding, but we're nitpicking the time again.
01:27:53.000My point is exactly the same, though, which is the situation is dire.
01:27:56.000If you do not share your first principles with your countrymen, then you do not have a country.0.99
01:28:00.000And if you are unwilling to do the hard things to preserve your country, like removing immigrants who don't belong here, Then you're not going to preserve your country.0.94
01:28:07.000And if you're unwilling to do simple things like deport people or cut your Social Security by 15%, then there's no reason to go to Iran.0.96
01:28:14.000If you're not willing to do the easy things, then you shouldn't be doing the hard things.
01:28:17.000Let's put it like this You're in your house and your family is sick.
01:28:22.000And you're saying, we all have shared values, but sooner or later we'll all be vomiting and we're going to die.
01:28:27.000It doesn't matter what we believe or like, we're in trouble.
01:28:30.000Yes, we could be healthy in the future.
01:28:33.000Yes, we shouldn't have eaten the junk food in the past.
01:28:35.000But right now we're in this predicament.
01:28:54.000If we steal the antibiotics from our neighbor and bring it over, we will be cured and we can then start working towards exactly what you want.
01:29:01.000You know, for what it's worth, the point that you're making is largely an Austrian economics point.
01:29:05.000If your point is that once you are hooked on fiat currency, you can't just quit cold turkey, then yes, I agree.
01:29:19.000But there's other things that are heading in the wrong direction anyway.
01:29:24.000Let me tie this to the Floyd riots quickly.
01:29:26.000The reason that the prosecution of Derek Chauvin is relevant is because it is built on and connected to a lie.
01:29:32.000When the trial of Derek Chauvin started, Al Sharpton said on the courthouse steps in a national press conference Derek Chauvin might be in the courtroom, but America is on trial.
01:29:42.000There was a political movement, Black Lives Matter, Defund the Police, critical race theory, and all the rest, that was existing in the periphery of mainstream American discourse, and it used the prosecution and conviction of an innocent man to catapult itself into the mainstream.0.76
01:30:38.000Which is if you can get Americans to start speaking the truth about symbolically large issues, Then they will begin to speak the truth about other issues that don't have symbolic significance.
01:30:48.000And you will be voted out of office for two years, and the economy is bad.
01:30:52.000In two years, but this is a generational fight.
01:30:54.000Winning the Cultural War is a 40 year battle.
01:30:57.000So, if every two years the economy must be strong for you to win that battle, what do you do?
01:31:04.000Here's the point I would make every single man who decides to have children with a woman is making a decision to make himself worse off today.0.96
01:31:11.000And yet we have 100 million years of Homo sapiens and 10,000 years of civilization.
01:34:14.000If we're like measuring this in an accounting sense, of course the value is.
01:34:17.000Men are looking for a purpose, and a purpose requires that meaning be connected to sacrifice in a way that is achievable, even if difficult.
01:34:25.000Men want to lift heavy objects, figuratively and literally, and they want to raise families, and they want to be provided an opportunity to do that, and we should give it to them.
01:34:32.000The point that I'm making is that a very narrow point, which is all of us, men and women, boomers, Gen Zers, are all going to have to make financial sacrifices in terms of how much Social Security we get, Medicare, Medicaid, what we want to do internationally with our military, et cetera.
01:34:47.000If we wish to have a fighting chance to reunify ourselves, there is not a single hooker, crack, or nor amount of hookers that will ever bring you the kind of satisfaction of having a family.
01:34:58.000I totally agree with you, and yet there are a lot of heroin hookers.
01:35:02.000The problem is, and I'm going to make the point when you say to the world, young man, sacrifice for someone else, and they go, whoa, I'll rather do the hookers.0.86
01:35:13.000I am telling you, hookers are nowhere near as emotionally satisfying and gratifying.0.78
01:35:18.000As your child saying, Daddy, I love you.1.00
01:35:41.000All of civilization can be understood on a spectrum, if you want to oversimplify things, of whether or not we're going to defer gratification or not.
01:35:48.000Are we going to defer gratification or not?
01:35:54.000If you wish to sacrifice today so that you could have something better in the future and along the way, then you must make a sacrifice.
01:36:02.000You've got to give up something today.
01:36:05.000If you want to have a fishing pole tomorrow to increase your fishing, productivity, then you've got to stop doing whatever you're doing right now and build the fishing pole.
01:36:12.000My argument is it doesn't apply to family.
01:36:56.000I think everybody agrees that the family is.
01:36:59.000I forgot exactly how you were phrasing it, but a lot of what you were talking about is how, like, the social fabric in our country is starting to diminish and, like, it's not starting to diminish.
01:37:16.000The first thing is, and this is, I'm going to give you a couple examples.
01:37:19.000The first is a very tactical example in a day to day life.
01:37:22.000Next time your friend brings up sports ball after making a political remark that assumes you agree, you have to call them out.
01:37:29.000You have to say the hard things at the barbecue about, Whatever the issue happens to be, immigration or the proper role of men and women or race, because the truth is your guide, okay?
01:37:38.000If you're unwilling to speak the truth and you're not going to preserve the civilization, that's one.
01:37:42.000On the other end of the spectrum, we have to understand that we must control the media apparatus and all the communication channels that communicate ideas.
01:38:05.000We recognize that ideas have consequences, and that if we wish to shape the political discourse and preserve the nation and the West in general, then we've got to change the ideas that are in people's heads.
01:38:15.000And we're not going to convince old adults to do that, but we can take tactical control of the institutions that shape ideas and expect to win in 25 years.
01:38:23.000Now, the petrodollar might destroy us in two years.
01:39:26.000All of the best movies, Hollywood is absolutely dominated by the left, as you know, but they accidentally make a right wing movie every once in a while.
01:39:35.000And those movies do better than any other movie.
01:39:36.000And the reason is because they talk about men incurring incredible burdens.
01:40:42.000What actually happened in that case, and if we can start doing that, do not want to open that Pandora's door again because they're scared, because they're afraid, and because the Overton window has.
01:40:50.000Been set by the people who control the media institutions, and that's the left.
01:42:25.000I don't say you have to control them, I think you just have to get a toehold in them, just like we did on X. Where you can begin to speak about the truth.
01:42:31.000You need access to these institutions.
01:42:34.000If your point is you cannot change the world if you are powerless, then I agree.
01:42:37.000And the funny thing is, the left argued this the whole time.
01:42:40.000The late David Graeber, he hated the name, but the anarchist anthropologist, said, The left has adopted the fascistic ethos, there is no truth but power.
01:43:29.000Because this is the Overton window, and the left has said that making comments like that for reasons which are hard to articulate is outside the Overton window.
01:43:46.000The comment suggests that there's something that it means to be an American, in part because there's something that it means to not be an American.
01:45:29.000Clearly, the reason that people cringe at this statement is because it is outside the Overton window.
01:45:35.000So, if I had made a slightly different statement like this, and I'm saying no, it's not always.
01:45:38.000What I'm saying is that sometimes people react to the things that people say in that category.
01:45:43.000Yes, yes, but we got to move past that if we wish to prevail.
01:45:45.000What I'm saying is if you make, again, this is just a litmus test statement, if you make the statement that 75% of illegal aliens.0.57
01:45:53.000Okay, so now we're dealing with a class, a set that by definition is here illegally because they are illegal.
01:45:58.000If you make the comment in public that 75% of illegal aliens need to be deported, then normal Americans will cringe because they don't like controversy, just like they don't like cops arresting people, just like they don't like seeing violence or aliens being deported by ICE in courtrooms.0.54
01:46:33.000No, I also, I mean, look, on this podcast right now, I'm making the point that we have to confront the fact that, for example, if we want to, it's not just that a weather van comment.
01:46:41.000In that particular example, I was using it as a weather van.
01:46:43.000I think you would agree with me if you made the comment in public, your normal American friends would probably cringe a little bit.
01:46:48.000He's saying you need to speak the truth.
01:46:59.000If you are sitting down with a group of normies and there's a bunch of Mexican workers and you say, 75% of people here probably need to be deported.1.00
01:47:38.000Again, that's nitpicking the percentage.
01:47:40.000No, I am saying if you specifically and literally say to a group of normies, 75% of people here probably deserve to be deported, their immediate reaction is, you don't even know if they're illegal or not.
01:48:11.000That doesn't mean they only speak Spanish.
01:48:13.000Okay, listen, do we wish to have a discussion about recreating the national ethos?
01:48:16.000If so, then we're not going to get into it.
01:48:18.000If your point is that there are people in the United States who speak Spanish who happen to be American citizens, then, like, granted, I get that.
01:48:26.000The point I made was that if you tell normies abruptly and without qualification the guys speaking Spanish should be deported, you push them to the left.
01:48:34.000And if you do the opposite of that, which is pretend that all of this is perfectly acceptable and normal, which has been the prevailing political wins for the last 50 years, then you lose your.
01:48:59.000This is the same argument that I might make to say there are no 100,000 strong communities of Americans in India, is the same argument that we can make.0.68
01:49:06.000I believe you are exemplifying why the right loses and the left wins right now.0.82
01:49:21.000And I agree with you that the left wing understands.
01:49:23.000That when you say, listen, I'm not trying to be harsh, but these people came here illegally, the left goes, these people think about their children and how they would suffer.
01:49:57.000Because the argument you're making is that we should be blunt and say the truth to people when that's not how people.
01:50:02.000But the truth can also have a psychological component, which is that if you understand that the barbarians are inside the gate and you wish to preserve Western civilization and you wish to preserve the ideas that you take for granted because they're built into the fabric of our civilization, you can't even articulate what they are.
01:50:31.000But I'm not trying to appeal to the Democratic Party.
01:50:32.000Voting block, what I'm trying to appeal to is the normie American who's right coded, who doesn't understand fully but intuitively grasps that the West is under great crisis and is likely going to fail.0.53
01:50:43.000And what that means is that their sons and daughters will not be raised in the community that they want.
01:52:18.000But I don't see the cultural difference.0.86
01:52:20.000You don't see the cultural difference between the Somalian from Mogadishu who comes to the United States, has never read the Declaration of Independence, doesn't know that it exists, and does not care, and has no plan to assimilate, and an American?0.77
01:52:30.000You don't understand the difference between that?0.92
01:52:32.000There's a huge difference between those two.
01:52:33.000There is a huge difference, and the problem is that you're not.
01:52:37.000You were accusing me of finishing your sentence incorrectly.
01:53:09.000There is a tremendous cultural distinction between a person who says, let me file the paperwork, let me be of you and do your rules, and other people who are like, I'll give you an example.
01:53:19.000I was in an Uber in Tijuana, and the driver said, I put a ladder up to the wall.
01:53:25.000The coyotes built a ladder so I could climb over the wall.
01:53:28.000And then when the CBP came, I fell off a ladder and broke my leg.
01:53:31.000But I'm going to get back in that country.
01:54:07.000If you and I were in Mexico, I would, and raising a family, I've raised a family, and you don't try to run that border, I don't think you're doing right by your family.
01:54:22.000That's an appeal that the left wing makes, which is we're all sympathetic to.
01:54:26.000I agree that these are fathers and mothers.
01:54:28.000What I'm saying is, and some of them are good people, many of them are good people.
01:54:46.000Today, a larger percentage of the population in the United States is foreign born than at any point in the last 150 years.1.00
01:54:53.000That cannot be sustained, whether it is illegal or legal.1.00
01:54:57.000The point is, there's a reason why we are the bastion of.
01:55:01.000There's a set of ideas that most people could not even write down if you tried that govern how we interact with one another and make us wealthy and fantastically successful at all the things we do, whether it's scientific discovery and cultural reasons too.
01:55:35.000So, what we found in Minnesota is that Somalis followed all the rules to extract public funds and mail it back to Somalia.0.96
01:55:42.000That violates the spirit of our culture and laws.1.00
01:55:45.000And we were shocked to find how could they be setting up fake daycares and fake hospice care, taking hundreds of millions of dollars and then putting it in suitcases and flying to Somalia?0.97
01:56:19.000Distinct immigrants, legal and illegal, in various parts of the United States who do not share our culture and are damaging our country.1.00
01:57:35.000What I'm saying, let's set aside the theoretical argument of what it means to be an American to address the emergent reality, which is practically speaking, if.
01:57:46.00020% of your population is foreign born, 30%, 40%.0.89
01:57:50.000At some point, you no longer have a culture that's strong enough to assimilate anybody.0.96
01:57:54.000The point that I'm making is instead, they'll be swamped and you'll become a polyglot, Balkanized community, just like Yugoslavia.0.96
01:58:00.000That's why you call it the Balkans.0.96
01:58:15.000You can add water to wine and at some point it's no longer wine.0.99
01:58:17.000And what I'm saying now is, In 1850, this wasn't a problem because the percentage of the population that was foreign born was very low, and today it's very high.0.99
01:58:25.000And if we had an immigration pause for 75 years, then we can revisit the issue.
01:58:36.000I mean, the easiest definition is that you accept the premise of the Declaration of Independence, that we hold these truths to the truth.1.00
01:58:40.000So if a Somali dude comes over and accepts, you know, all the premises in the Declaration of Independence, poof, therefore, no.1.00
02:01:47.000I think actually that's the academic view.
02:01:49.000I mean, if you have a heterogeneous slap, you don't have an issue.
02:01:53.000What's the argument for there being an ethnic definition of America?0.52
02:01:58.000I'm simply observing that Americans in history were largely of one ethnicity, then it expanded with the introduction of the Chinese, and then slaves were made citizens.
02:02:06.000Well, and also Dutch, but then the slaves were added as citizens in 1865, and then Irish and Italians.0.54
02:02:12.000But the point is, all of this happened gradually.0.99
02:02:15.000You're struggling a couple of Jews.0.96
02:02:16.000Let's make the argument an extremist.0.95
02:02:18.000If you brought 150 million Somalians who were Muslim or Islamic and believed in Sharia law, do you think that the United States would exist the day after that?0.92
02:02:57.000We'll do it on the uncensored portion of the show as we're going to it right now.
02:03:00.000I had a great conversation with a few guys about nations, ethnicity, laws, and how these things operate.
02:03:05.000So head over to rumble.com slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored portion.
02:03:09.000Sorry we didn't get to your super chats today, guys, but this is spicy and we're having a good time.
02:03:13.000You want to shout anything out before we go to the uncensored show?
02:03:16.000Yeah, I wrote a book recently called American Scapegoat in which we're talking about symbolic truths and real truths and encourage everyone to get it.
02:03:26.000I encourage folks to go to miketremont.com and learn about the campaign for earning the vice presidential nomination of the Republican Party.
02:06:22.000Average height in Sweden is 5'11 to 5'11 for men and 5'7 for women.
02:06:29.000But I think that the average height in Thailand for men is 5'7 and for women is 5'2.
02:06:35.000Now, this matters because I want y'all to think about this scenario.
02:06:39.000Your average Swede encounters a gray wolf, your average Thai person encounters a gray wolf.
02:06:44.000Now, don't get me wrong, like, Thai people probably aren't counting gray wolves in Thailand.0.67
02:06:47.000My point is, There is a visible function of your genetic background.
02:06:56.000And the easiest thing for people to recognize is height, which means there are subtle differences in cultural development and laws based on the genetic structure of a people.
02:07:07.000This means the culture of Scandinavia will be informed differently.
02:07:11.000I'll give you a better example Japanese people, so I'm told and could be wrong, have gut bacteria that can better break down cellulose.
02:07:20.000I happen to be Japanese, so I'm allowed to say that whether it's right or wrong.
02:07:23.000But let me double check that Japanese gut bacteria cellulose.
02:07:37.000So I'm explaining ethnicity and its ties to nation.
02:07:41.000And the first example I just gave is the average height in Scandinavia for a man is 5'11.
02:07:46.000The average height in Thailand is 5'7.
02:07:48.000If these two individuals encountered a dangerous wild animal of the same type, they're going to have two different reactions to it based on their average height.0.68
02:07:55.000A Scandinavian person will be less threatened by a small predator than a Thai person would be.0.50
02:07:59.000Now, a Thai man may not be all that threatened by, say, a badger, but a Scandinavian on average will be less threatened.0.74
02:08:05.000This will inform their laws and their culture.
02:08:09.000Japanese people have gut bacteria that can break down cellulose, hemicellulose, and pectin better than other peoples, which means their culture will enjoy certain foods that other cultures cannot.0.94
02:08:19.000So when Somalis move to Japan, which they may be doing soon, they're not going to be able to eat traditional Japanese food.0.98
02:08:26.000This will functionally change the culture of Japan if the population of Somalis grows larger.0.98
02:08:31.000So, yes, there's absolutely an ethnic component.
02:08:33.000We can also take a look at theories on the blood type diet, which some say is not necessarily true.
02:08:39.000But are you familiar with the blood type diet?
02:08:45.000So, there are theories that type O, being the most common blood type, dates back to a time when humans were eating fresh fish and wild, you know, foraging for wild vegetables.
02:08:58.000As we became agrarian and developed animal husbandry, you end up with type A and type B.
02:09:04.000I believe type B is dairy based with milk and fats, and type A is meat based from chickens and eggs and cow meat and things like this.
02:09:13.000And then you get the modern diet, which is AB, which is we eat all sorts of wacky junk.0.97
02:09:18.000The point ultimately is, and I think the Japanese argument is the most apt.1.00
02:09:24.000So you heard what I said about Japanese people?
02:09:42.000So, if you are moving people into a culture that is dominated by dairy products, which we heavily are, they're going to get sick a lot and they're going to not eat that.
02:09:50.000And it's going to fundamentally change the culture, the economics, and even the laws of a nation.
02:09:54.000So, there is absolutely an ethnic and racial component.
02:11:26.000Look, bringing different people into the United States of different types, yes, it may have different effects on everything from biology to, you know, culinary culture.0.99
02:11:45.000But fundamentally, I think that there's two things wrong about your argument.
02:11:51.000One is that that is not what is inherently American.
02:11:55.000What is that we eat and in what proportions is not what makes America great.
02:12:00.000Good thing that wasn't my argument then.
02:12:02.000Do you want to actually argue my point?
02:12:03.000You were saying that it would change our culture.
02:12:06.000I gave you two different examples of very linear things that absolutely did affect the cultures of those people to the larger point there is an ethnic component outside of those two granular examples.
02:12:20.000Yes, ethnicity does drive certain aspects of culture.
02:12:25.000Those aspects of culture are not what is fundamentally American.
02:12:56.000But if people come here and all of a sudden soccer surpasses the NFL and surpasses baseball, I'm sorry, that doesn't change fundamental American culture.
02:13:16.000Because no one in the world says the word soccer, a slang term in the UK for association football that was coined, and the United States has soccer teams, and we've always had soccer teams, and it is very, very popular here.
02:14:17.000There's a statue of the man who brought the town together to build their now minor league baseball field, and everyone loves it.
02:14:23.000Every year, they have a town hall meeting and they go over the budget and they decide as tradition, as we all have worked for and our great great grandfather sacrificed for and helped build and invested in.
02:14:34.000We are going to allocate public tax funds to revitalize the baseball field.
02:14:39.000Then Joe Biden brings in 51% Haitian migrants who come in and have done nothing wrong.
02:14:44.000They were invited in by the government.
02:14:46.000They come in and they come to the town hall meeting and they say, all in favor of using this year's budget to revitalize the baseball field.
02:14:53.000And all the people of the town whose culture and tradition have been there for 100 plus years scream and cheer.
02:14:58.000And the 51% of the town's population who are Haitian migrants say, no, we need a migrant welcome center because we are all here and we have trouble assimilating.
02:15:06.000So the town says, okay, no more baseball.
02:15:14.000We don't want people fighting over these things.
02:15:16.000But the first thing people see when they look at another person is going to be their physical body.0.61
02:15:21.000So, what ends up happening then is the white Anglo Saxon Protestants who grew up here and said, My great grandfather sacrificed so that we would have a place to play baseball with our kids.0.99
02:15:32.000And these migrants from Haiti don't care about that and just voted us out.0.99
02:15:35.000And now we can't have baseball anymore.1.00
02:16:10.000Take all the planks away at once, as Elon Musk said, and you have a rapid, unscheduled disassembly, and then you put them all back together, then you have something very different.
02:16:21.000I'm arguing that point because I think it's been clarified.
02:16:24.000What I'm saying is if you move one plank out and replace it with another plank, and 10 years later, another plank comes out and you replace that, and then over the course of 100 years, the culture has changed, then you've preserved something.
02:16:54.000That is the point that I'm making, which is that the temporal component of this, how quickly this happens, is critical to it.
02:17:01.000And one other point, which is if we can't speak plainly about race and ethnicity and sex and sex roles and immigration and legal immigration and ideas without being called racist or chauvinistic or misogynistic or whatever, if we cannot speak truthfully like men around a table, we're never going to do the things that need to be done to preserve the country.