Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 20, 2026


DSA CIVIL WAR Plans Exposed, WHITE POWDER Sent To Congress Sparks

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00:00:03.000 Thank you.
00:01:40.000 Over the past several days, there's been a lot of attention, at least in law enforcement, but for some reason, not the media, that there are hundreds or over 100 letters with white powder in them being sent to members of Congress.
00:01:55.000 And I'm just going to, you know, I probably shouldn't say exactly where I was, but I was in Grand Rapids over the weekend.
00:02:01.000 And I'm in Grand Rapids and I see the breaking news that the member of Congress in Grand Rapids was sent this letter with white powder.
00:02:10.000 And a threat from the DSA that they are fomenting a civil war.
00:02:15.000 A member of Congress, Democrat no less, said this is terrorism from the far left, from the DSA, and they call in the DSA to denounce this.
00:02:26.000 Hundreds, or I believe it is believed there's over 100 or more of these letters in circulation.
00:02:31.000 30 plus have been sent to varying members of Congress.
00:02:33.000 And this is coming right at the time Data Republican said she has information, documents, and recordings of leftist individuals discussing their operational plan.
00:02:44.000 To foment a civil war in this country.
00:02:46.000 And I'm sitting here like, y'all made fun of me.
00:02:49.000 Y'all laughed at me.
00:02:50.000 Well, who's laughing now?
00:02:51.000 No one's laughing now.
00:02:52.000 This is freaky stuff.
00:02:53.000 So I, you know, I'm in the car with Du Bois on the way to the brand new studio here in DC.
00:02:57.000 And I'm like, how come no one's talking about 36 letters with white powder being sent to all these members of Congress two weeks out from a midterm?
00:03:07.000 I'm turning on the news, not hearing much about it, but it's in every major publication.
00:03:12.000 So I have to wonder.
00:03:13.000 So we'll talk about that, my friends.
00:03:14.000 At the same time, of course, I mentioned data Republicans got.
00:03:16.000 New information pertaining to leftists fomenting a civil war.
00:03:20.000 I mean, they're explicitly stating their plan is to riot in the United States, the likes of which you've never seen, to force Donald Trump to cross a red line, which they can use to delegitimize the Trump administration and the American government.
00:03:35.000 At the same time, Donald Trump is, well, he's saying he's got nothing to do with the Ilhan Omar stuff.
00:03:40.000 But Ilhan Omar is being investigated.
00:03:42.000 We've apparently got a statement from the family now, DNA evidence, and it's looking like.
00:03:48.000 It's looking bad.
00:03:49.000 There's a viral post right now that purports to be DHS and USCIS documents, which state there is no record of Ilhan Omar's father being a naturalized citizen.
00:04:00.000 One of these documents has Exhibit L on it.
00:04:03.000 So it's purportedly grand jury materials.
00:04:05.000 I don't know for sure, but these are all going massively viral.
00:04:10.000 Suffice to say, it's a particularly contentious time.
00:04:12.000 So we're going to talk about all of that, my friends, and more, because we do have updates on AI and all that stuff.
00:04:18.000 And Nick Shirley receiving $10,000 from Donald Trump.
00:04:21.000 Look at that.
00:04:22.000 So, smash the like button, my friends.
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00:04:25.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Rollo Tomasi.
00:04:28.000 Hey, thanks for having me back.
00:04:29.000 Yeah, who are you?
00:04:30.000 What do you do?
00:04:31.000 October surprise?
00:04:33.000 That's who you are?
00:04:34.000 I'm your October surprise.
00:04:36.000 No, I mean, the.
00:04:37.000 Yeah, it always annoys me.
00:04:39.000 We're not supposed to call it rice.
00:04:40.000 And is it rice?
00:04:41.000 And what is it?
00:04:42.000 Did we find out?
00:04:43.000 White powder.
00:04:43.000 A white powder?
00:04:44.000 So far, they said it wasn't hazardous.
00:04:45.000 So we don't.
00:04:46.000 We still.
00:04:46.000 We powdered sugar for all of those, you know?
00:04:46.000 We don't.
00:04:48.000 But it's terrorism.
00:04:49.000 Because the point of the letters is to invoke fear.
00:04:53.000 But it's hit Democrats and Republicans.
00:04:55.000 So they've traced it to North Texas, and it appears that the letter is purported to be DSA.
00:05:01.000 The DSA has disavowed this, but it doesn't matter because the chaos is the point.
00:05:05.000 Anyway, yeah, who are you?
00:05:06.000 What do you do?
00:05:07.000 I am Arola Tomasi.
00:05:09.000 I am the author of the Rational Male series of books.
00:05:11.000 I got six of them out.
00:05:13.000 I have a program that helps guys called Reignite.
00:05:17.000 We help gentlemen between the ages of about 40, 45, and 65 guys sort of reintegrate themselves after a Bad divorce.
00:05:26.000 And I'm also, hopefully, we can talk about this a little bit today.
00:05:30.000 I've got my own AI engine now called the Rational Mail Engine.
00:05:34.000 And I know recently you were just talking about AI and whether it's going to kill us all.
00:05:39.000 You know, just real quick, because we're not going to get into it in big on the show, but George Alexopoulos, he's a good dude, he's a friend, but he's very, very, very anti AI.
00:05:47.000 And in response to a clip from my interview with Jim Norton, he posted a crudely drawn participation trophy under it.
00:05:55.000 The point was, it was about AI taking over and all these things, to which I responded with a vector image of a trophy.
00:06:03.000 And I said, didn't cost me one cent.
00:06:05.000 And invariably, I get a ton of responses from people who all say it's disgusting, it's ugly, you're missing the point, that's not real art.
00:06:14.000 The image that I posted was made by a human.
00:06:16.000 The point is, you can't tell.
00:06:19.000 And what's happening now is these people are like, AI is bad, and I can prove it.
00:06:23.000 And then when you show them something that's human made, they'll go, see, that's ugly.
00:06:25.000 And you're like, yeah, the human made that one.
00:06:28.000 And then you show them the AI one, and they're like, oh, that one looks pretty good.
00:06:30.000 It's all in how you use it.
00:06:31.000 It's getting crazy.
00:06:32.000 We're going to talk about all that stuff.
00:06:33.000 We've got the boys hanging out.
00:06:34.000 Hi.
00:06:34.000 Ian's here.
00:06:35.000 Yeah, I'm also fed up with retarded ludites, so let's go.
00:06:38.000 Tate Brown, you're holding it down.
00:06:40.000 What's going on, everybody?
00:06:41.000 Yeah, David Carlson.
00:06:43.000 Pleasure to join you guys.
00:06:45.000 I'm a digital strategist in all things political.
00:06:48.000 No, no, what'd you call me?
00:06:49.000 Local wonk.
00:06:49.000 Local wonk.
00:06:50.000 Local wonk.
00:06:51.000 Yeah, we got this.
00:06:52.000 I think this fifth chair is going to be a rotating cast.
00:06:54.000 I think DC, it's in the name, DC, David Carlson.
00:06:54.000 And I was like, you know what?
00:06:57.000 I mean, I saw Brian kill me on the way up in here.
00:06:59.000 I was like, I'm walking in.
00:07:01.000 You beat up Brian.
00:07:02.000 Yeah, great.
00:07:02.000 It was high privilege.
00:07:03.000 I had this like air pressure rocket launcher, like foam thing.
00:07:06.000 And like, we're goofing off trying to get through.
00:07:09.000 And he walked past us.
00:07:10.000 And I. You know, I don't want to disparage the man, but it did look like he had disdain for us goofing off.
00:07:14.000 Like, here he is in this nice suit coming from Fox, and like, there goes the neighborhood.
00:07:17.000 Yeah, there goes the neighborhood.
00:07:18.000 Like, he's walking in like a pitiful little boy.
00:07:20.000 It makes me wonder what they're going to think, like, when you guys are jamming.
00:07:22.000 Like, we're just, you know, in the other room there.
00:07:25.000 Oh, and we were yelling and everything.
00:07:26.000 It makes me wonder why the press is going to think of an access to the studio, too.
00:07:30.000 We haven't given him a taste for his day yet.
00:07:32.000 That's a hell of a way to warm up, too.
00:07:34.000 That was awesome.
00:07:35.000 No, I know Brian is going to be like, well, he probably wouldn't.
00:07:38.000 I don't want to speak ill of the man.
00:07:39.000 He didn't say anything.
00:07:40.000 We'd love it.
00:07:40.000 I'm just.
00:07:41.000 Brian killed me to appreciate it on this show.
00:07:42.000 He probably wasn't thinking anything about us.
00:07:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:44.000 I just want to say that because it sounds like there goes the neighborhood because they're prestigious, you know.
00:07:49.000 We're sneaking in.
00:07:50.000 Oh, Make-A-Wish is in the building.
00:07:50.000 He's nice.
00:07:51.000 That's great.
00:07:53.000 All right.
00:07:53.000 We're going to get into all that news and stuff.
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00:09:20.000 But let's jump into the news.
00:09:21.000 We've got this from The Guardian.
00:09:23.000 Holy smokes.
00:09:24.000 More than three dozen Congress members' offices sent envelopes containing white powder.
00:09:31.000 Envelopes containing powder come weeks before the midterms as federal agents try to identify who is behind the campaign.
00:09:37.000 Congresswoman Hillary Sholton in Grand Rapids, Michigan says, This is a press release.
00:09:43.000 Today, Congresswoman Hillary Sholton received a threatening letter at her Grand Rapids, Michigan office that contained unidentified white powder.
00:09:49.000 The letter, which claimed to be from the DSA, made a direct and specific reference to an impending civil war beginning after the election.
00:09:56.000 The letter sent to Congresswoman Sholton is similar to those received at other congressional offices across the country.
00:10:02.000 The DSA has not yet addressed the attacks.
00:10:03.000 Well, as of this moment, they've denied them.
00:10:08.000 She says, My first thoughts today are with my staff who opened the mail and the first responders at the scene.
00:10:08.000 Excuse me.
00:10:13.000 Everyone is safe.
00:10:15.000 The people who work in congressional offices are public servants.
00:10:18.000 They work every day to help constituents and serve their communities.
00:10:21.000 No one should ever feel unsafe doing that work.
00:10:23.000 I'm thankful to law enforcement for their professionalism, and I'm proud of my team for staying calm and looking out for one another.
00:10:30.000 Now, we also have this another story we'll get into just a bit, but in the context of Civil War.
00:10:35.000 Data Republican releasing information of leftists and liberals planning to foment a civil war.
00:10:43.000 So, this is all in line with what we're seeing.
00:10:46.000 We'll get into that story in just a minute, but for the time being, my first question is like, guys, this happened over the weekend.
00:10:52.000 30 plus letters full of white powder sent to all these members of Congress.
00:10:57.000 This one specifically threatening civil war or referencing an impending civil war, saying it's from the DSA.
00:11:04.000 What's going on?
00:11:07.000 It's tough to really.
00:11:08.000 I mean, does this happen often?
00:11:10.000 I feel like this is something that maybe happens often.
00:11:12.000 It's like a schizophrenic starts mailing stuff to congresspeople because their addresses, like I assume it went to her office, right?
00:11:18.000 And their addresses are public.
00:11:19.000 You know how many crazy people there are in this country?
00:11:21.000 I'm not necessarily downplaying, but anyone can mail a bag of sugar to a congressman and say you're a member of such and such organization, right?
00:11:29.000 And the concern then is how do we function as a country when one random crazy person can do one random crazy thing, throwing a wrench in the entire system of governance?
00:11:39.000 Mass surveillance.
00:11:39.000 Oh, it's very salient.
00:11:41.000 That's usually the answer.
00:11:42.000 Do we know?
00:11:43.000 Down from above.
00:11:44.000 Do we know the political ideology of the people who received these?
00:11:48.000 Is it all Republican?
00:11:50.000 Yeah, it's like uniparty.
00:11:52.000 Yeah, Shulton's would be center left broadly.
00:11:55.000 Like, you know, Clinton liberals.
00:11:58.000 I was just wondering if they're particularly targeting conservatives.
00:12:01.000 Oh, no, no.
00:12:01.000 She's a Democrat.
00:12:02.000 I got burned out on the anthrax scare after 9 11.
00:12:04.000 You guys might, within like, I don't know, a month or two after 9 11, they got a bunch of anthrax mailed to.
00:12:09.000 Washington, D.C., by somebody, and it was like terrorists, terrorists, terrorists, and that scared everybody.
00:12:15.000 I don't know who did it or if it was even anthrax.
00:12:17.000 I don't think it was anthrax.
00:12:18.000 They thought it was anthrax, but they used it as like to bang the war drums to go garner support for to destroy the enemy.
00:12:24.000 And so, when I see this stuff, that's what I think.
00:12:25.000 Somebody, it's either I don't know, but it seems like a false flag, like what two weeks out from the midterms, dear senators from the DSA.
00:12:32.000 And I can see the S being spelled backwards, like who, who, how would they see?
00:12:36.000 But hold on, Occam's razor, why would you assume that?
00:12:38.000 Because of the anthrax scare after 9 11, like I don't trust any of this garbage.
00:12:41.000 So, So, the issue is the immediate assumption one should make is the one that the simple solution, I should say.
00:12:50.000 The immediate, your thought process.
00:12:53.000 Should be the front and center, should be this could be from the DSA.
00:12:54.000 Yeah, that should be from the DSA.
00:12:55.000 Well, it should be evidence suggests a single individual Democratic socialist, angry with Democrats and Republicans, sent out these letters.
00:13:05.000 Next, we can argue is it a false flag?
00:13:08.000 Is there a right wing person who's trying to frame the left for some reason?
00:13:11.000 But that, again, is not making an assumption.
00:13:11.000 Is it a full murder?
00:13:14.000 Straightforward, the probability lies with DSA doing this, especially when you consider the data Republican release.
00:13:20.000 What's that all about?
00:13:21.000 Do you have info on the data?
00:13:22.000 I mean, we've got a lot to break down on that, so I'm just referencing it and we'll cover that in the videos.
00:13:26.000 But basically, it's a massive trove of conversations, documents, and recordings of DSA saying, We are going to start a civil war through mass chaos, riots, and forcing the president into a position where he delegitimizes himself.
00:13:39.000 That's the Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky's book about how to overthrow tyranny you want to act so far, you want to step so close to the line that you get the government to crack down with a fascist attack.
00:13:51.000 And then you can be like, See, they're fascists.
00:13:52.000 We told you.
00:13:53.000 It's a Reichstag event kind of thing.
00:13:55.000 You need a flashpoint kind of thing.
00:13:57.000 No, but think about it this way, though.
00:13:58.000 Like, all last week, the hotness in the news was the riots going on in France, which I believe are still going on in France right now.
00:14:05.000 Well, they put a bunch of lockdowns in place.
00:14:07.000 But then you go and you look at other sort of hot flashpoint places as well.
00:14:07.000 Right.
00:14:13.000 So you've got what Italy was one of those.
00:14:16.000 Yeah, Milan.
00:14:16.000 I'm trying to think.
00:14:17.000 It wasn't Belgium, it was one of them as well.
00:14:20.000 And so it's kind of like I don't know if it's a meme still, but I just kept seeing like all these different videos, and it was like, this is Belgium.
00:14:26.000 This is.
00:14:27.000 France, this is Italy.
00:14:28.000 And then, of course, so what's the next thing you're supposed to like?
00:14:33.000 The logical conclusion is, oh my God, it's coming here.
00:14:36.000 Now you have the DSA saying, oh yeah, we're going to start a civil war.
00:14:40.000 Oh, you mean like all those other countries that I saw last week?
00:14:43.000 And so now it sounds plausible.
00:14:45.000 And again, why are we hearing this two weeks before the midterm election?
00:14:49.000 Well, it's weird from the perspective.
00:14:50.000 Suddenly they just decided to get all agitated.
00:14:53.000 Yeah, well, it's interesting.
00:14:54.000 I mean, but if you're a DSA member, I don't know why you feel back into a corner right now because you're taking over the You know, the most powerful political party in the entire world, the Democrat Party, you're on the cusp of having basically complete control.
00:15:07.000 I mean, after this midterms and with a lot of DSA candidates on the ballot, I guess it depends on how things go in Michigan with El Said.
00:15:14.000 You know, if you're DSA, you're pretty happy right now insofar as the future of your sub movement within the Democrat Party is, I mean, the ceiling is sky high.
00:15:23.000 I think we're going to see things like this as well as mass rioting, the likes of which we've not seen in maybe ever next year.
00:15:31.000 Yeah, well, I would just say that, you know, talking about who it is, what it is, the information we have right now is DSA aligned.
00:15:39.000 I would just, I wouldn't be shocked because if you look at Europe, you look at what they're doing to the American right already, and then you compare it to what the Democrats are saying, people like Slotkin, who isn't really DSA.
00:15:50.000 Just a little while ago, her and Senator Kelly were telling the military to refuse Trump's orders, you know, committing treason.
00:15:57.000 And then just a couple days ago, she comes out and she says, we're going to jail.
00:16:01.000 Junior Republican staffers.
00:16:03.000 And then we have the DSA, who is obviously violent and obviously advocating for something totally radical in American life.
00:16:12.000 And the way I view this is if you're the DSA, why would you do it?
00:16:17.000 Well, you do it because why wouldn't you?
00:16:18.000 We're trying to scare these people.
00:16:20.000 Yeah.
00:16:20.000 We're trying to scare Democrats and Republicans into doing what they want, which is.
00:16:27.000 And it's always easy to just go, oh, it wasn't us.
00:16:28.000 It's fake.
00:16:29.000 Yeah.
00:16:29.000 Totally fake.
00:16:30.000 And their followers are going to believe it.
00:16:31.000 But the ones that are in the known that want it to happen are laughing.
00:16:34.000 Because I think you can write off false flag.
00:16:35.000 Because it's like, let's just, you know, I don't think the Trump administration would ever do anything like that.
00:16:40.000 But let's just imagine that they were to conduct a false flag.
00:16:43.000 It would be from an Iranian to be like, hey, I'm Mr., I'm a big Ayatollah fan.
00:16:46.000 I'm mailing, you know, bombs to people.
00:16:48.000 Like that's what it would look like if the Trump administration, if you think about what they need right now, the number one thing they need right now is support for this war.
00:16:54.000 So if they were going to do something like that, you know, you would see it.
00:16:57.000 So this, that doesn't really, I don't know, it doesn't really square with me if it were to be a false flag.
00:17:02.000 I think it's likely that it's either a lone wolf who's crazy.
00:17:05.000 Or, yeah, someone within the DSA line.
00:17:08.000 The next question is let's say this is a singular, a single lone wolf leftist.
00:17:16.000 What does it say that the DSA is inspiring people to do things like this?
00:17:19.000 So, again, there's a concept called a standalone complex.
00:17:24.000 It's when a group of people all do something similar.
00:17:28.000 So it appears they're acting in concert, but in fact, they're each individual actions.
00:17:33.000 So when it comes to, you know, like 2020 election is a good example.
00:17:38.000 People were highlighting these weird videos of someone doing like vote counting or signature verification.
00:17:43.000 And they're screaming, it's a conspiracy.
00:17:45.000 Look, this person isn't actually reviewing the ballots on video.
00:17:49.000 See, they're in on it.
00:17:50.000 No, no, no.
00:17:51.000 They're not in on it.
00:17:52.000 They're ideologically aligned and just doing things to the benefit of their machine.
00:17:57.000 So.
00:17:58.000 The risk is when the DSA is saying things like advocating for these things, and then a single individual goes and does it, you don't need a conspiracy.
00:18:07.000 And also, I think it's important to say I don't care if the DSA disavows it.
00:18:11.000 The fact that these people go on camera and they advocate for it, the fact that Hassan Piker has said things like, let the streets run red with the capitalist blood or whatever, when it comes to the public and when it comes to law, they'll all come out and say, don't look at me.
00:18:24.000 I never said to do anything.
00:18:26.000 But what they're effectively doing every day is going on TV and screaming, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest?
00:18:32.000 It's a social contagion.
00:18:33.000 I mean, it's the Luigi Mangione thing.
00:18:35.000 It's the, you know, the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:18:38.000 Lone Wolf acting as a pack.
00:18:40.000 Like, no, I don't think so.
00:18:42.000 I think that Charlie was killed by a transgender radical.
00:18:45.000 I think Luigi Mangione was an insane radical who acted alone and they were both rewarded for it.
00:18:54.000 I mean, we saw the way people celebrated when Charlie died.
00:18:57.000 We saw the way people celebrated when Luigi Mangione killed that UnitedHealthcare CEO.
00:19:02.000 And the media runs cover for him and.
00:19:06.000 So, why are we surprised when they're shipping?
00:19:09.000 There are a variety of reasons why I think it's going to be balls to the wall next year.
00:19:14.000 One of which is the release from Data Republican, the stuff from the DSA, and the fact that we're seeing a lot of this start picking up.
00:19:20.000 But the other big factor, which, again, I'm putting a pin in it because we're talking about later, is artificial intelligence and the singularity fast approaching.
00:19:27.000 I will just say this as we round out this segment and go to the Data Republican stuff.
00:19:31.000 It is impossible for me to convey to you, listening at home, the danger and scale of what AI is about to do.
00:19:39.000 Because you've never seen it before, you can't imagine it, and it does not evoke an emotion within you.
00:19:48.000 If I were to say that there was a roving band of Antifa right now, live streaming themselves, massacring people, you'd immediately be like, Whoa, like that's crazy.
00:19:59.000 And you'd go to look it up, you'd go on X, you'd look for videos.
00:20:02.000 And if you saw those videos, you would probably be like, Holy crap, this is happening.
00:20:09.000 If I were to say to you that The economy is on the verge of complete and total collapse at a speed by which people cannot comprehend.
00:20:19.000 You're like, I don't know.
00:20:20.000 Look, you go to work, you get paid, right?
00:20:22.000 I'm just going to say this.
00:20:25.000 Big tech CEOs have been saying we need a UBI.
00:20:29.000 We are going to have, whether we want it or not, they are going to be pushing to implement techno communism.
00:20:35.000 And it's because I said this last week, and it's the last thing I'll say before we go to the next segment because we're going to come back to this AI stuff.
00:20:43.000 Adobe, $95 billion company, overnight has no product anymore.
00:20:48.000 How do they exist?
00:20:49.000 Honest question to all of you at home How is it possible that right now Adobe exists?
00:20:54.000 I want you to imagine a gigantic oil tanker floating on the ocean and it looks amazing.
00:21:00.000 And then a strange force slices the entire hole off from the bottom, which just rips and sinks to the bottom.
00:21:09.000 You can still see that ship for a brief second.
00:21:11.000 That's where we're at right now.
00:21:13.000 It's going to just go straight down.
00:21:15.000 Sam Altman said in 2024, he expected this, this change that we're talking about right now, the entire world revolution of the economy.
00:21:22.000 And he realized that was with their GPT-4.
00:21:25.000 And then he realized shortly after that that the world is addicted to the liberal economic order, this economy.
00:21:32.000 There's a momentum that's hard to change.
00:21:34.000 And he's like, I thought it was going to happen overnight, and it's not because all these forces are making it keep going.
00:21:41.000 See, the mistake he's making is: I have introduced a product by which people can adopt.
00:21:48.000 But like we saw with Blockbuster passing over their ability to buy Netflix, it's because the ship is a gigantic object with inertia.
00:21:56.000 Now, you can implement a better ship, and people will still be like, Yeah, but this one's already rolling.
00:22:02.000 I don't want to get that one rolling.
00:22:03.000 And then sooner or later, that ship has its wheels ripped out from underneath it by the other one.
00:22:09.000 And what's going to happen?
00:22:10.000 It doesn't matter if you want it to keep going, it is going to slam into the ground, grind to a halt, and eject everybody off of it.
00:22:17.000 The amount of jobs, and I warned this earlier in the year, that AI has the capability right now to wipe out probably 60, 70% of all jobs.
00:22:30.000 I.
00:22:31.000 I cannot make people understand because it's hard to explain the scale.
00:22:37.000 But it's simple to say Oracle doesn't exist anymore.
00:22:41.000 Salesforce, gone.
00:22:43.000 Microsoft, gone.
00:22:44.000 Adobe, gone.
00:22:45.000 Our entire tech sector, the idea of software, gone.
00:22:50.000 It will just be AI.
00:22:52.000 So, what happens when the economy takes a 10% hit?
00:22:58.000 When 10%, let's say 10% of the American population instantly.
00:23:03.000 Is without work.
00:23:05.000 You are going to see people burning things down.
00:23:08.000 But wait, we're going to talk more about the AI stuff because we've got a big story on it.
00:23:12.000 I first want to talk about how the DSA is seeking to foment this.
00:23:15.000 We've got this from Data Republican.
00:23:17.000 Data Republican Post said, Democracy Files Part One.
00:23:20.000 I'm working on gathering all the documents.
00:23:22.000 Here's something to understand about the democracy and protest ecosystem.
00:23:25.000 Almost nobody knows the grand plan, so to speak.
00:23:28.000 They simply agree to play a role.
00:23:30.000 99% of people breaking stuff in the streets believe they're doing it out of an organic uprising.
00:23:34.000 They don't see that the police have been ordered to stand down.
00:23:37.000 They don't see the legal services have already been arranged for them.
00:23:40.000 They don't see that foundations are paying for their bonds.
00:23:43.000 Similarly, here, governors aren't participating in a pact to destroy the Constitution.
00:23:48.000 Governors simply have agreed to push back on the Insurrection Act.
00:23:52.000 I call this shared epistemology in my book, Unelected.
00:23:56.000 No kings might not agree to explicitly tear down the Constitution, but they nonetheless work with the DSA.
00:24:00.000 So here's the story Data Republican says that she received a large trove of documents and recordings from Democrats and liberals talking about how they intend to invoke mass riots.
00:24:11.000 To force Donald Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act so that they can counter by saying Donald Trump is illegitimate and Democrat governors can band together, form some kind of network that says we are rejecting the illegal and unconstitutional actions of Donald Trump and the federal government, and use that to create, let's just say, a slice through the confidence in the American system.
00:24:37.000 That is, people in blue states and liberals will, in their minds, instantly say Trump is no longer president.
00:24:43.000 And then Democrats will start acting outside the confines of the Constitution.
00:24:46.000 That's the big play.
00:24:49.000 And of course, Democrat, I'm sorry, Data Republican has these videos.
00:24:53.000 We'll play a little bit here.
00:24:55.000 Democratic Constitution Forum, March 25th.
00:24:58.000 We'll just jump ahead.
00:24:59.000 So the long story short is that currently I'm teamed up with the leaders of the Democracy Renewal Group.
00:25:06.000 That's 300 people who used to be USAID people from, you know, doing democracy work and authoritarian pushback all over the globe.
00:25:17.000 USAID staffers are now working together with liberals for authoritarian pushback.
00:25:23.000 You know what we called that when USAID was working on it?
00:25:26.000 We called those color revolutions.
00:25:27.000 Yeah.
00:25:28.000 And they're now working in the United States because they're mad at Trump.
00:25:31.000 I'll say this my assumption I think there is a big conspiracy.
00:25:38.000 I do.
00:25:39.000 I'm not saying I know for a fact.
00:25:41.000 I'm saying I am hypothesizing for which requires testing and evidence, but I believe it is strongly possible that there are people who know AI is about to destroy the economy and wipe out.
00:25:51.000 Capital as we understand it.
00:25:53.000 And we've seen Elon Musk say abolish intellectual property.
00:25:57.000 Jack Dorsey as well.
00:25:59.000 Outright said abolish intellectual property.
00:26:01.000 What have we witnessed from the big tech firms over the past couple of years?
00:26:05.000 What's clipping?
00:26:05.000 Clipping.
00:26:07.000 Tell me why it is.
00:26:08.000 I can go on Instagram and Joe Schmo blowhole is posting clips from Marvel's Endgame.
00:26:15.000 Why can I watch three minutes of raw Marvel movie footage from a random account on Instagram?
00:26:21.000 What happened to copyright infringement?
00:26:23.000 Gone.
00:26:24.000 We saw this case when Destiny made a documentary about Hassan Piker, and three women on Twitch watched it in its entirety.
00:26:30.000 With one woman saying, Don't watch it from him, watch me react to it.
00:26:35.000 I think that was Ethan Klein.
00:26:36.000 Yeah.
00:26:37.000 I'm sorry.
00:26:37.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:26:38.000 Ethan Klein, not Destiny.
00:26:38.000 Sorry.
00:26:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:26:39.000 I misspoke.
00:26:40.000 Ethan Klein made the documentary about Hassan, not Destiny.
00:26:42.000 Sorry, Destiny.
00:26:43.000 I made a mistake.
00:26:44.000 And, well, she, I don't know where we are with the lawsuit, but she advanced.
00:26:48.000 And we covered this.
00:26:51.000 It basically means IP is dead.
00:26:54.000 All of these moves are happening that lead us to this techno communist future.
00:26:59.000 Yeah, you need like a way.
00:27:01.000 It's kind of weird, but I'm telling you, you need a way to code your product that's not stealable.
00:27:05.000 It has to be like time crystals.
00:27:07.000 Possible.
00:27:08.000 Well, if you have like motion as your code, then it's hard to reverse engineer how it moved to get to where it's at.
00:27:13.000 These time crystals are interesting technology.
00:27:15.000 So there might be ways to protect your IP, but in the meantime, everything's getting shredded.
00:27:20.000 The issue is that they're doing it intentionally, Ian.
00:27:23.000 What's that?
00:27:24.000 They want to shred IP because China's unrestrained.
00:27:27.000 And they want to take this intellectual property and load it into their AI models.
00:27:30.000 China is stealing American IP because no one can enforce it against it.
00:27:34.000 So Elon and Jack are like, abolish intellectual property.
00:27:37.000 The future the technocrats have proposed is universal basic income.
00:27:41.000 You will own nothing and you will be happy.
00:27:44.000 And so, what are we seeing right now?
00:27:46.000 AI.
00:27:47.000 Guys, I cannot impress upon you.
00:27:52.000 I've got a video on Saturday on my channel, Timcast channel, and it's about the Adam and Eve theory.
00:28:00.000 I recorded voiceover and dropped the file into Claude and said, Have fun.
00:28:06.000 It rendered the whole video, it made everything.
00:28:08.000 This video is the biggest on that channel for the last 10 videos.
00:28:12.000 It's got close to 300,000 views.
00:28:15.000 I don't need a video editor anymore.
00:28:17.000 This would have taken two people to do before.
00:28:19.000 You can also simply just tell any one of these AIs, Here's my posting schedule on YouTube, do it for me.
00:28:27.000 Now, I will stress this again it is not possible to replicate my voice, and I've tried again.
00:28:32.000 That's right, Ian.
00:28:33.000 Today, I did a raw three minute recording where I read a script the AI gave me to read so that it could copy my voice and it failed.
00:28:41.000 11 laps?
00:28:43.000 It was, yes.
00:28:44.000 You got to try a local model.
00:28:45.000 I think that's the way to go.
00:28:47.000 I had to do the same thing for the Rational Engine.
00:28:49.000 I was reading scripts for it so that it could simulate my voice.
00:28:52.000 Was it able to do it?
00:28:53.000 Kind of.
00:28:54.000 Couldn't get me at all.
00:28:55.000 I mean, if you have a very recognizable voice, if you have like Jordan Peterson's voice, easy.
00:28:58.000 Easy.
00:28:59.000 But if you have just kind of like, you're kind of mid voice.
00:29:02.000 What it sounds like for me, though, is it sounds like my tone.
00:29:05.000 Mm hmm.
00:29:06.000 But the words are pronounced in a strange way.
00:29:09.000 Like, I would say he blessed that guy.
00:29:11.000 It would say bless him.
00:29:11.000 Yeah, I think the real training is so time consuming.
00:29:13.000 You go word by word, and you're like, this word was too high.
00:29:13.000 It's just what you do.
00:29:16.000 You got to go down at the end of this.
00:29:17.000 And then it's like, okay, and then it takes 20 minutes.
00:29:18.000 The specific sentences you have to say so that you're getting certain hits.
00:29:21.000 And it didn't work.
00:29:23.000 But I digress on that.
00:29:24.000 This is the value it takes a lot to train a quality model.
00:29:27.000 Right, and so that's meaningless to the bigger picture.
00:29:29.000 It'll get it sooner or later.
00:29:31.000 It'll get it probably in a month.
00:29:35.000 We are in the hockey stick in the exponential growth curve of AI.
00:29:39.000 A month ago, I was sitting down looking at these programs, talking to my brother, saying, like, there's ways to automate video editing.
00:29:46.000 And I was going through it, spent a half an hour, and I was like, it's just not getting it.
00:29:50.000 And now I can make a 30 minute video just by dropping the file straight up, and it's even getting better.
00:29:59.000 The first time I did it a week ago, it was like, I'm going to have to make multiple video files and make it use a batch to combine them.
00:30:05.000 I said, okay, do it.
00:30:06.000 A week later, it said, nope, that problem's been solved already.
00:30:08.000 We're already well past that.
00:30:11.000 It originally was like, I can edit the video using code and I'll have to piece them together.
00:30:17.000 Anyway, here's my point because I want to bring it back to the DSA and democracy and the big conspiracy stuff.
00:30:23.000 We were going to hire two people.
00:30:25.000 And we've been talking about it for some time.
00:30:26.000 We need video producers.
00:30:27.000 And then one day, like the other day, I was like, weren't we going to hire people?
00:30:31.000 Oh, Claude and GPT got so good, we forgot we needed people because the truth is we don't need them anymore.
00:30:31.000 What happened?
00:30:37.000 I had a conversation with a big YouTuber.
00:30:40.000 He hit me up and he was like, My God.
00:30:42.000 He's like, I used to spend a week, a week to make one of my video analyses.
00:30:48.000 I just record the voiceover in 10 minutes and then it's done 10 minutes later.
00:30:52.000 My whole week is open.
00:30:53.000 I can fire my staff now.
00:30:55.000 He's like, I had staff members that I needed for posting schedule, for promotion and comments.
00:30:59.000 I can literally just tell it to look at my channel, build a framework for my production schedule, implement it automatically.
00:31:07.000 Done.
00:31:09.000 The scale of job loss that we are going to see in the next year is going to be insane.
00:31:16.000 The DSA is going to utilize this.
00:31:18.000 I think we are going to see Luddite riots, and it's not necessarily going to be framed that way.
00:31:23.000 But if there's a guy who's 35 and he's got two young kids and he loses his job because Adobe is free now, let's say you're a software engineer getting $120,000 a year and Adobe comes out and says, our quarter one, we're down 37%.
00:31:36.000 We project quarter two to be down another 42%, which is compounding.
00:31:41.000 Yeah, you're fired.
00:31:42.000 I'm sorry.
00:31:42.000 Company's gone.
00:31:44.000 Adobe doesn't.
00:31:45.000 A $95 billion company has no product.
00:31:49.000 I'm going to say it again, guys.
00:31:51.000 Microsoft.
00:31:53.000 Has no product.
00:31:54.000 What's Bill Gates' stock worth at this point?
00:31:56.000 They still have servers, though.
00:31:57.000 They might be able to pivot these companies into data centers.
00:31:59.000 Into data centers.
00:31:59.000 Right.
00:32:00.000 Push them into data centers.
00:32:01.000 Yep.
00:32:01.000 Right.
00:32:02.000 All these tech companies can become data centers.
00:32:04.000 So here's what happens the DSA says, We need riots.
00:32:08.000 How do you get them?
00:32:09.000 Mass unemployment will do it.
00:32:11.000 The train is slamming into a wall and everyone's getting ejected off of it.
00:32:14.000 I do believe we're in an environment that's ripe for a revolt economically, but there's other forces that want that as well as a DSA, is that, of course, the Chinese would love to see the U.S. spiral in the Civil War.
00:32:25.000 That means they would win the world over.
00:32:28.000 I'm sure that Putin wouldn't be sad if it happened right now.
00:32:32.000 So the Iranians, of course, and because of the open borders of 20 plus million people in the country, it could be anybody, man.
00:32:38.000 It could be networks of anybody.
00:32:40.000 It could be a freaking AI that did this.
00:32:42.000 I mean, maybe someone had to handle the paper and put the white powder in the thing.
00:32:47.000 So maybe it's not quite AI just yet.
00:32:51.000 But it could have been an I don't know.
00:32:53.000 But the white powder doesn't matter.
00:32:55.000 What matters is backfill has stopped.
00:32:58.000 Meaning, an old person retires from a job, they're not hiring anybody.
00:33:02.000 So that's not coming out in the job reports.
00:33:04.000 We're not looking at job losses.
00:33:05.000 We're looking at jobs.
00:33:06.000 There's no jobs being created.
00:33:09.000 So, you know, Phil brought this up on the show a couple weeks ago.
00:33:12.000 There's not been mass layoffs due to AI, correct, but there's not been backfill either because this is the train we are on.
00:33:19.000 Next year, we will start seeing layoffs.
00:33:21.000 We are already seeing layoffs.
00:33:23.000 I think as of right now, it's between 100,000 and 200,000 layoffs due to AI.
00:33:26.000 But the other thing to consider too is like the Blockbuster scenario.
00:33:29.000 Blockbuster is like, look, you know, we make money renting movies out, we don't need Netflix.
00:33:35.000 And now Blockbuster is gone.
00:33:38.000 We experience this too.
00:33:39.000 Like, we do a talk show.
00:33:41.000 Long form.
00:33:42.000 Short form is blowing up.
00:33:44.000 And I'm like, look, we're not going to reallocate resources and change what people watch of our show into a short form show.
00:33:50.000 We'll do short form where we can.
00:33:52.000 So, meanwhile, there's people who do short form who get 100 million views and we get 500,000 on the long form show because people watch as it makes money.
00:34:00.000 That's just generational and content strategy change.
00:34:03.000 Imagine what happens next year when there's 700 long form podcasts every minute.
00:34:09.000 Dude, I also think it's going to get, like you said, Opus had to break your video apart into a lot of videos and then put them back.
00:34:14.000 Together, I think people are going to watch like 30 shorts at once and they're going to be able to start to understand them.
00:34:19.000 This is what YouTube is implementing seasons.
00:34:22.000 So you could put up a short and then create a playlist.
00:34:25.000 So the shorts just play one after another and create de facto.
00:34:28.000 Next level is you put five shorts on your screen at once and you watch them all at the same time.
00:34:33.000 In the red zone.
00:34:34.000 But again, the crux of the point, everything we're talking about is what happens to this country if 7% of the people, just seven, lose their jobs in a span of three months?
00:34:45.000 Well, then look at the cascade effect that goes along with that, too.
00:34:48.000 So, if you have that job loss right there, but then what businesses are going to be affected as a result of those job losses as well?
00:34:56.000 So, I was just watching this video on the flight out here about colleges closing right now because there's a lack of men that are signing up to enrolling in college right now.
00:35:08.000 It's the point where you've got colleges that have been around since the mid 1800s that are now closed.
00:35:13.000 I mean, they've survived two world wars, even the Civil War in some of these cases, and they're basically Shuttering those colleges.
00:35:20.000 And in some cases, they're shuttering them right now, or else they're going to wait till the end of the school year and then they're done.
00:35:25.000 Well, that's my alma mater.
00:35:26.000 They just like, they could read a spreadsheet and they're like, we're getting less and less applicants every year.
00:35:30.000 We need to build a nursing school.
00:35:31.000 We've got to like cast our net wider.
00:35:32.000 We're getting to the point where these universities are going to have like every degree on offer.
00:35:36.000 See, that's so, so, but the narrative is this it's like, well, you know, guys are, you know, waking up and they don't want to, you know, sign up for this stuff because they don't want to go into massive student debt.
00:35:44.000 And, you know, the old way of thinking about like, oh, I'm going to go to high school, I'm going to get a diploma, then I'm going to go to college, then I'm going to, and, Sort of that life track that you know, sort of this 20th century life track, and I think they're you hate to say it, but I think you're giving them a little bit too much credit because a lot of these guys, just because they're not enrolling into college, they're going into trade schools as well.
00:36:04.000 So, if you look at trade schools, if you look at welders, you look at electricians and such, plumbing and that kind of stuff, you'll see more guys that are going into that right now because they don't want that debt.
00:36:12.000 But what happens as the follow on effect is that once those businesses close, once those and the college is a business, once those close, then everything that was surrounding it, all of the businesses that That were around the university, all of the little coffee shops, all these little dorms and everything else, all of those closed too as a result of that as well.
00:36:33.000 So, in some cases, to put this into context with the AI, if those jobs and those companies go belly up, then what happens to the other contracts that were dependent on that big ship going down to the bottom of the ocean?
00:36:48.000 So, the point I bring up with 7% is to get us to the point where we are looking at governmental and economic collapse, you don't need everyone to lose their job.
00:36:58.000 In fact, you only need a couple hundred thousand people in a short period of time to lose their jobs to see the DSA's numbers explode.
00:37:05.000 Because right now they're very anti AI.
00:37:08.000 What happens when a guy goes to college, gets a computer science degree, gets a job as a developer making 150K a year, and then his job is gone?
00:37:16.000 The DSA says, Why are you homeless?
00:37:19.000 And he says, I'm in debt.
00:37:20.000 I can't pay off my debt.
00:37:21.000 They won't forgive my loans.
00:37:22.000 AI just took my job from me and they say, Join us.
00:37:24.000 And he goes, You got it.
00:37:25.000 Now, add on top, real quick the polls showing boomers are saying tax the young.
00:37:31.000 And you've got a guy now who's in his 20s who just got his degree in computer science being told there's no jobs anymore, go work as a barista.
00:37:38.000 And pay back your $50,000, which he can't.
00:37:41.000 And we're going to tax you more to pay the retirement for the boomers.
00:37:45.000 These people are going to be like, DSA, let's roll, baby.
00:37:48.000 Throughout this whole conversation, the only thing I can think of is like immigration and job reshoring.
00:37:54.000 The, you know, you're talking about like these small numbers.
00:37:57.000 It doesn't take that much.
00:37:58.000 100,000 here, 100,000 there.
00:38:00.000 Okay, well, we have 100,000 illegal immigrants in this country.
00:38:03.000 Actually, more than that, multitudes of that.
00:38:06.000 So this is only another reason why it's so important that we.
00:38:10.000 Get the deportations rolling faster and thicker, and then bringing jobs back home.
00:38:14.000 You know, in fact, you mentioned Microsoft.
00:38:17.000 They've offshored a bunch of jobs and they claimed they were firing these American workers because AI was replacing them.
00:38:23.000 Then they turned around and shipped the jobs to India.
00:38:26.000 Yeah, and it's like, it's actually criminality.
00:38:30.000 You were seeing it with the hotels where people are going to these hotels and we're like, we have an AI kiosk to check you in.
00:38:35.000 And then like Vivek Ramaswamy pops up.
00:38:35.000 You're like, sick.
00:38:37.000 You're like, what's going on?
00:38:38.000 He's in India.
00:38:39.000 Yeah, I know.
00:38:40.000 I'm like, I thought you were running for governor.
00:38:41.000 And it turns out it's another Indian guy, but it's crazy.
00:38:43.000 And they're like, oh, we like, oh, we offshored it.
00:38:45.000 Oh, I thought this was like AI or whatever.
00:38:48.000 It's a total scam with a lot of it.
00:38:50.000 But to David's point, you know, not to go on, you know, we've heard it for two years now, but yeah, the mass deportations really do like solve a lot of these problems where you can clear out a lot of the labor on the low end.
00:39:03.000 Like the only reason we view a lot of these jobs as undesirable is because they're occupied by people that are undesirable.
00:39:08.000 And if you can turn these jobs into like what we call a menial labor or low skilled jobs, if you can like make those desirable again, if you can make those jobs.
00:39:15.000 Have some dignity again.
00:39:17.000 And a lot of that is like these employers have to treat these employees right because they're not just like wage slaves that are dependent on them for a visa.
00:39:23.000 Problem solved.
00:39:24.000 Like the problem is a lot of these people that like H 1B jobs, for example, that's a whole different thing.
00:39:28.000 But a lot of these like illegal immigrants, they're working on farms and that sort of thing.
00:39:32.000 The way they're treated by these ag companies, it's terrible.
00:39:35.000 And if you get these people out of the way and they have to treat, they have to hire Americans, then Americans have rights and it's going to get better across the board.
00:39:41.000 The dignity issue is the issue.
00:39:43.000 Young people don't feel dignified doing blue collar work.
00:39:46.000 That's a cultural issue.
00:39:48.000 They're so.
00:39:50.000 When you think about what's high status, being a farmer is not high status.
00:39:53.000 You're not going to walk into a club in New York and be like, I'm a farmer.
00:39:57.000 And then all the girls are like, woohoo.
00:39:58.000 A lot of that's because of who currently works those jobs, which is like a legal basis.
00:40:01.000 I don't think so.
00:40:02.000 A lot of it is, I would say personally, is a lot of it is because you associate it with like the low class.
00:40:06.000 Yeah, but even the owner of a farm is not walking to a club in New York with women going like, woo, a farmer.
00:40:12.000 They were in Fort Worth, Texas.
00:40:16.000 It's like glamorous on Instagram now to be doing the homesteading because, I mean, you know this.
00:40:20.000 Oh, that's a fair point.
00:40:21.000 It is like, Oh, you actually can fend for yourself.
00:40:25.000 You're not a white collar, like quarter zip finance bro, Segway pipeline.
00:40:29.000 You're actually doing stuff with your hands, and that's really attractive.
00:40:32.000 I think you're right, though.
00:40:33.000 There does need to be a cultural change where young people value labor.
00:40:39.000 Hey, look at this.
00:40:41.000 How do you imply status with like farming?
00:40:44.000 Like, that's the thing is, we talk about this on Access Vegas every now and then.
00:40:46.000 It's one thing to be a plumber and make like $300,000 a year as a plumber because you're like a journeyman plumber.
00:40:51.000 You've been going, to be a plumber, you actually have to go through like four years of, Training to get that certification so you can be an efficient plumber.
00:40:58.000 There's a lot of cramming you got to deal with.
00:41:00.000 But there's a lot of technical stuff you have to know in, like, depending on the kind of plumbing you're doing.
00:41:00.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:41:05.000 This commercial, there's all kinds of different kinds, right?
00:41:08.000 But if you have that guy who's making $300,000 a year and he says, I'm a plumber, and you got another guy who says, Well, I'm in finance, how much you make?
00:41:14.000 $150,000 a year.
00:41:16.000 The guy in finance, the guy that looks like he's driving an expensive car, that's a higher status job than the guy who's a plumber.
00:41:21.000 But here's the question: What is the political leaning, on average, do you think, of a blue-collar worker?
00:41:29.000 Well, it depends on their ethnicity.
00:41:31.000 But they're white, probably pretty.
00:41:32.000 Depends on the location.
00:41:34.000 Certainly, but let's just say, for the country in general, let's.
00:41:38.000 Like a white dude in Ohio is going to be like the biggest chud.
00:41:41.000 Yeah, but race is not relevant to the issue because we factor that into averaging.
00:41:49.000 Well, if you averaged out, blue collar is probably right on the middle because you have unions, you have a lot of like Hispanic and black labor.
00:41:57.000 So it probably comes out 50 50.
00:41:59.000 I don't think so.
00:41:59.000 I guess for the blue collar.
00:42:00.000 Like city livers turn out more left.
00:42:03.000 Country livers turn out more right, kind of thing.
00:42:05.000 Well, unions still vote Democrat in a lot of places in the country.
00:42:08.000 We're seeing it now in Michigan.
00:42:09.000 Yeah, unions have just become so much weaker.
00:42:11.000 Yeah.
00:42:13.000 Yeah.
00:42:13.000 Yeah.
00:42:14.000 A lot of union guys flipped for Trump.
00:42:17.000 Like I mentioned, my neighborhood was like union city workers, police, and firefighters in Chicago.
00:42:20.000 They flipped for Trump.
00:42:21.000 So I think the general assessment is probably a lean right.
00:42:25.000 Yeah.
00:42:26.000 Not hardcore.
00:42:27.000 And again, I agree with you on the issue of like, yeah, like the Latino, they're going to lean Democratic, but you factor all that in.
00:42:32.000 Republican.
00:42:33.000 So I just looked it up.
00:42:34.000 Blue collar workers.
00:42:35.000 Have shifted away from Democrats and now lean in the last election 66%.
00:42:41.000 Wow.
00:42:41.000 That's a lot more.
00:42:43.000 And 24 people leaned on white guys.
00:42:45.000 Yeah, because those guys.
00:42:46.000 Hispanics swung over big time.
00:42:47.000 They leaned on Trump.
00:42:48.000 It wasn't really a Republican thing, it was a Trump thing.
00:42:50.000 It was a Trump thing, yeah.
00:42:51.000 This is the thing is like a lot of, like blue collar guys, me, myself, I don't even know if I'm Republican.
00:42:56.000 I just love Trump.
00:42:57.000 And I think a lot of these guys in Chicago, for example, just love Trump.
00:43:00.000 Here's the point blue collar jobs are protected.
00:43:03.000 The trades are going to be worth way more, they're going to become very valuable.
00:43:07.000 I'm going to say trades are going to go down in value substantially.
00:43:11.000 So, plumber making 300Ks and make 100K next year.
00:43:13.000 Why?
00:43:14.000 Competition is going to be insane.
00:43:16.000 That's going to be the only way I can go to ChatGPT and learn how to be a plumber in 20 minutes.
00:43:20.000 White collar jobs are now Democrat leaning.
00:43:24.000 White collar jobs are the greatest at risk.
00:43:26.000 What's going to happen when all of these high net worth relative to the blue collar worker lose their jobs?
00:43:32.000 They are going to dump their money into DSA and communism.
00:43:36.000 And it's going to happen so quick, you're not going to get an.
00:43:39.000 It's one thing to say, Learn to code.
00:43:42.000 Your job is going away.
00:43:44.000 We'll transition you.
00:43:45.000 This change is too fast.
00:43:45.000 No, no, no, no.
00:43:47.000 So these white collar people who lose their jobs are going to be like, why is it that I don't have money for food?
00:43:53.000 I did nothing wrong.
00:43:54.000 The government should subsidize me and tax the wealth or tax the AI companies.
00:44:00.000 And now we saw, did you guys see that quote where the guy said, the future is going to be, he's like, in a year, you will all do nothing.
00:44:06.000 Matt Walsh commented on it.
00:44:07.000 He's like, you will do nothing and you'll receive a paycheck paid from the taxes of the AI companies.
00:44:12.000 Mm hmm.
00:44:14.000 I think that's reasonable, actually.
00:44:15.000 That's impossible.
00:44:16.000 It is impossible to generate.
00:44:18.000 Sounds nice, but I don't think so.
00:44:19.000 But here's the issue.
00:44:21.000 What they are saying with UBI is that, let me say this in capitalism, I do something of value for someone and I get money for it.
00:44:31.000 I then go to Taco Bell and give them something of value in exchange for the taco.
00:44:36.000 UBI says the person making the taco generates the value, and there's a person who produces no value at all who gets a free taco.
00:44:46.000 And that no value will be converted into a taco again.
00:44:49.000 Like, it's impossible.
00:44:52.000 It is impossible to have more going out than goes into the system.
00:44:56.000 The whole fiat system is an impossibility.
00:44:58.000 So we've been on a downward spiral.
00:44:59.000 This is more just like hitting the brakes on the downward spiral.
00:45:02.000 That's what this UBI thing would be.
00:45:04.000 It'd probably last for two years, and then AI will figure out how to get us everything we need without having to pay for it.
00:45:09.000 Now, let me say it like this If I have to pay $200 a month for Premium Pro, you know, Claude or whatever, I think AI just, GPT launched the $500 one.
00:45:19.000 They are going to make $500 per month off of me, but I need that service to run my business.
00:45:25.000 Let's say you're a person, a regular human, like a regular civilian, not a company, just a regular working class guy.
00:45:31.000 You pay $20 for GPT, and it does simple things for you.
00:45:35.000 How are they going to extract $20 that you gave it and give you the $20 you need to buy it again?
00:45:42.000 No, Dario said 5% of their company wants to give back in the first year.
00:45:46.000 So, my point is if an individual's entire source of income is from the AI company that he pays for, you see where this doesn't make sense?
00:45:58.000 It maybe pays him more than he has to spend.
00:46:02.000 How is that possible?
00:46:03.000 If it's worth $100 trillion.
00:46:05.000 And they can break off a trillion dollars a year to the American people.
00:46:08.000 What do you mean, break off?
00:46:11.000 I don't know how they would pay the people either.
00:46:13.000 Elon was like, make it UBI.
00:46:15.000 This is exactly the point.
00:46:17.000 If I have to give Tate $20 so that Tate can be taxed $5 to give back to me, how is the $5 I'm getting going to buy the $20 subscription from Tate?
00:46:25.000 Well, because you are, you're anthropic in this situation because you're getting.
00:46:29.000 No, I'm a person.
00:46:30.000 And he's getting $100 billion from the government fiat printed out of nothing.
00:46:34.000 So he's anthropic.
00:46:35.000 Anthropic's overloaded with hyperinflated money right now.
00:46:37.000 So, hyperinflation until the economy collapses and you can't buy anything.
00:46:37.000 Yeah.
00:46:40.000 That's why UBI doesn't work.
00:46:40.000 Right.
00:46:42.000 But it's a slowing.
00:46:43.000 Well, we're headed towards a post money society if we listen to these guys that are in control of the flow.
00:46:48.000 Imagine when it gets into crypto or gets into like a Fed coin.
00:46:51.000 It is.
00:46:52.000 So, here's the problem.
00:46:55.000 You can.
00:46:56.000 What they're going to have to do is it's techno communism.
00:46:59.000 No individual is going to say, I'm so passionate about being a grocery store worker, I'm going to wake up every day and go stock apples and face.
00:47:08.000 Boxes of cinnamon toast crunch.
00:47:09.000 My meaning comes from my employment.
00:47:12.000 They're not going to do that.
00:47:12.000 Yeah.
00:47:14.000 So the government will have to do it.
00:47:16.000 The government will have to subsidize this.
00:47:18.000 The problem that emerges who is going to do it?
00:47:21.000 Prison inmates, maybe?
00:47:22.000 So slave labor, I guess?
00:47:24.000 How do you?
00:47:25.000 We're going to have to get optimist bots to do it.
00:47:27.000 There will be a cascade of I don't want to.
00:47:30.000 Dude, everybody hates their jobs.
00:47:33.000 And that means if you don't have to work and you're getting subsidized, why should I?
00:47:38.000 And the question is if I'm a grocery store worker, Why should I have to work and you don't have to?
00:47:44.000 I'll take the 5K per month or whatever UBI is and stop working instead of worrying about 10K per month and being a grocery store employee.
00:47:49.000 It might be that the UBI recipients have to log into the system and become part of the technocracy, but the people working for cash can still make their money on the side and not have to opt into the spy tech.
00:48:01.000 So there's an incentive to keep your rogue enterprises active.
00:48:06.000 That might be the case.
00:48:07.000 And they're like, I just don't want to work for the system.
00:48:09.000 I'd rather work for Rollo.
00:48:11.000 The problem is, as I often state, The question everyone can ask their friends How many people do you know play the guitar, Rolo?
00:48:11.000 A collective.
00:48:19.000 Plenty.
00:48:20.000 Tons, right?
00:48:21.000 Lots.
00:48:22.000 How many of them are good enough to be professional musicians?
00:48:26.000 That I know?
00:48:27.000 Probably a dozen, maybe.
00:48:29.000 Out of hundreds.
00:48:30.000 Out of hundreds, yeah.
00:48:31.000 If each and every one of these people were told they would get paid money and could pursue being a musician, how many of them would accept?
00:48:37.000 I'm sure they'd jump at it too much.
00:48:38.000 Because you've got to remember, though, that there also is the status factor that's attached to that.
00:48:44.000 So it's not just if you're doing it for money, or are you doing it because you think girls are going to come in?
00:48:52.000 But then you also remove the incentive in that way, too, because once something is common, then it loses the value.
00:48:58.000 We're not talking about that.
00:48:59.000 The point I'm making is they'd all say, play guitar and write music or work for an insurance company.
00:49:06.000 Yeah, I'll play guitar.
00:49:07.000 If you go to somebody and say $10,000 a month and you can work for an insurance company, they're going to go, oh, $10,000 a month.
00:49:13.000 You're being really optimistic with the guitar playing thing, too, because I don't even think that would happen.
00:49:13.000 That's above GDP.
00:49:17.000 I think they'd rather sit home and play GTA VI.
00:49:20.000 It's probably what they would rather do, right?
00:49:20.000 Agreed.
00:49:21.000 Because you're going to get to a point where the sedation becomes so immersive that it won't be, I'm going to be productive.
00:49:28.000 I can use all this great time that I have.
00:49:30.000 I've been free from the system of asking about a guitar, though.
00:49:33.000 Yeah.
00:49:34.000 Is the communist implication that when freed from the constraints of capitalism, they'll pursue their passions.
00:49:40.000 Yeah, they're innate talents.
00:49:41.000 They'll solve things.
00:49:43.000 They won't.
00:49:43.000 They'll sit around playing GTA.
00:49:46.000 Everyone I know who plays guitar, if they were told, look, you'll get $10,000 to work for the insurance company, but we'll give you $5,000 just to play guitar, they'd be like, guitar, I will make it work.
00:49:57.000 But we don't need guitar players.
00:49:59.000 We need people to face the groceries at a grocery store.
00:50:02.000 Robots can eventually start doing that, but someone's got to manage the grocery store.
00:50:05.000 No one is going, hey, girl.
00:50:06.000 I'm a grocery store manager.
00:50:07.000 You know, I'll tell you something.
00:50:09.000 You know, we were talking about the job reports just a little while ago.
00:50:12.000 The last one was like 398,000 or something like that.
00:50:12.000 What was it?
00:50:15.000 And like something like 4,000 went to men and like everything went to women, right?
00:50:20.000 Now, I had to cover that when it first came out because that's kind of in my wheelhouse, right?
00:50:25.000 But the thing is, is like if you look at where those jobs were coming from, where they originated from, they're from, you know, social services and health care, which are predominantly female run things.
00:50:36.000 And, and, Their services that are hands on.
00:50:39.000 There's not something that AI is going to necessarily report.
00:50:41.000 I want to preface this.
00:50:42.000 I want to pull up the article for this.
00:50:43.000 So just put a pin and we'll pull the article up.
00:50:45.000 We've got this from CNBC.
00:50:47.000 Women accounted for almost all of the job gains in August.
00:50:51.000 Yeah.
00:50:51.000 So this was a massive viral story with tons of feminists gloating.
00:50:56.000 It is not good when you have young men not working.
00:50:59.000 This is a sign of a serious crisis in this country.
00:51:03.000 Good for women.
00:51:04.000 Congratulations on your jobs.
00:51:05.000 What are men doing?
00:51:06.000 Well, what's scary with this, real quick, what's scary about this is something you talk about all the time is to Rolo's point.
00:51:06.000 You know, I think.
00:51:11.000 Most of these are going.
00:51:13.000 I think a large chunk of it was like hospice workers and that sort of thing.
00:51:16.000 It's because so many people are old.
00:51:18.000 We have so many old people in this country.
00:51:20.000 That is why there's so many jobs getting added.
00:51:22.000 Like a lot of these weren't real jobs because if you look at the economy broadly, it's a no fire, no hire kind of Mexican standoff right now.
00:51:28.000 But you saw massive gains in like healthcare, especially like later life healthcare.
00:51:32.000 That just shows you like we're about to have a pot, like a massive population drop because all these people are about to die.
00:51:38.000 Now, people are just waiting.
00:51:39.000 Imagine you're a Davos elite and you're sitting there at your table, shaped like some kind of weird A. In a small room in DC with your elites in your big media studio.
00:51:50.000 And you're saying, okay, we've got too many old people.
00:51:55.000 We can't fund Social Security anymore.
00:51:57.000 The old people will lose it if we take it from them.
00:51:59.000 And any of these people control various mid level businesses.
00:52:03.000 We've got AI about to nuke what remains of the job market for the younger generation and for middle aged individuals.
00:52:10.000 What do we do?
00:52:11.000 And so, what are they going to say?
00:52:12.000 They're going to say, well, you've got to kill a lot of old people and you've got to radically transform the economy.
00:52:17.000 How do we do it?
00:52:18.000 Guys, I think we're going to need a revolution.
00:52:21.000 We're not going to be able to implement a UBI techno communist system by politely asking.
00:52:26.000 It's like Logan's saying.
00:52:27.000 You're going to need a catastrophe for what you can exploit.
00:52:32.000 Yeah, what could that catastrophe be?
00:52:37.000 So, next summer, the DSA is fomenting a mass amount of riots to force Donald Trump over a red line.
00:52:44.000 So, the Democrat governors, so maybe it's going to be a World War III, a civil war, and maybe the elites intentionally have done these things because they're like, We want the crisis.
00:52:55.000 We want a blameless crisis for each of our sides.
00:52:57.000 And all they got to do is ramp it up in other countries to make it seem like, oh, now it's our turn.
00:53:02.000 Now it's decided to come here.
00:53:03.000 Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen, though, because Putin, Xi Jinping, and Trump are very tight right now.
00:53:10.000 They're talking about having a summit, the three of them.
00:53:12.000 I think they see that if there's a revolution one place, there's going to be a revolution everywhere.
00:53:16.000 And it's going to be like a tribalist warfare until someone seizes control of the data centers and then makes everyone slaves to some new chaotic organization.
00:53:26.000 You know, I always wondered this.
00:53:27.000 If I was like, A billionaire.
00:53:30.000 Do I really want to fight communist China?
00:53:32.000 I don't care.
00:53:33.000 Why wouldn't the world leaders just get together and say, guys, we're all rich.
00:53:36.000 We can literally do anything we want.
00:53:38.000 There's no reason to fight.
00:53:39.000 Let's just, you know, rule the world by council.
00:53:42.000 Like, you know, why wouldn't they do that?
00:53:44.000 Yeah, that'd be nice.
00:53:45.000 The problem is, China may be what they're doing.
00:53:47.000 The problem with China is that so much of their economic system is wound up in the American economy that if there are mass protests in America, I saw a tweet about this the other day, which I thought was funny.
00:53:58.000 If there's a lot of protests in America and our system becomes destabilized, She would send soldiers to America to stabilize the system because his system is totally reliant on us.
00:54:08.000 And I think that there's like a lot of truth to that.
00:54:11.000 The global economy is so interwounded in our treasury and our yields and our stocks that if we fall, everything else goes to pure chaos.
00:54:20.000 So, what you were saying about like the summit, I haven't seen that, but if that's true, I wouldn't be surprised.
00:54:25.000 Great men are cut from the same cloth.
00:54:27.000 Trump stands among them.
00:54:28.000 So, no, that's real.
00:54:30.000 And I think you would see like something like South Africa is a great example of what.
00:54:34.000 What an America collapse situation could look like.
00:54:36.000 Because in the 21st century, like modern liberal democracies don't collapse.
00:54:40.000 They just like get worse and worse and worse and worse.
00:54:42.000 And what you're seeing in South Africa is things have gotten consistently worse.
00:54:45.000 But one sector of their economy has grown exponentially.
00:54:47.000 It's the largest in the world, it's security.
00:54:49.000 The largest security company.
00:54:51.000 That's Pakistan.
00:54:53.000 South Africa has the largest security industry in the entire world.
00:54:56.000 That's messed up.
00:54:57.000 Yeah, well.
00:55:00.000 And we have Cornell at home, which is great.
00:55:02.000 Real quick, you know what's funny is you know these security companies are tracking, you know, rape and stuff.
00:55:07.000 And you got to imagine there's like a guy in like a business suit who walks in and goes, Gentlemen, we had a fantastic Q1.
00:55:13.000 Great quarter.
00:55:14.000 Rape is up.
00:55:14.000 Murder is up.
00:55:16.000 Demands for our security services had never been higher.
00:55:18.000 Oh, the guy in England.
00:55:19.000 Welcome to commodities trade.
00:55:20.000 The Pakistani buyers' company is like, Yes!
00:55:24.000 Yes!
00:55:25.000 Come on!
00:55:26.000 Investors are like, Buy!
00:55:27.000 Buy!
00:55:28.000 Yo, yo, there's a dip.
00:55:28.000 Yes.
00:55:29.000 Buy!
00:55:29.000 Buy!
00:55:30.000 Buy!
00:55:30.000 There's so many Pakistanis coming.
00:55:32.000 Yeah, but, you know, South Africa is a great example because people will, like, Their standard of living, if it declines slow enough, they just get used to it.
00:55:42.000 And America still has a lot of stuff to distract you that doesn't require that much money.
00:55:47.000 TBs are really cheap.
00:55:48.000 Again, GTA coming out.
00:55:50.000 I just really struggle to imagine Americans who tolerated COVID, tolerated a lot of other stuff, would snap over losing jobs.
00:55:58.000 I just really don't see it, especially because America, the way our cities are designed, it's impossible to demonstrate.
00:56:03.000 What people are going to drive in from the suburbs into town and then start protesting.
00:56:07.000 It's never happened.
00:56:08.000 What you would need is the bottom.
00:56:10.000 Portion of the population and the top portion of the population will be fine in this scenario.
00:56:14.000 What you really need is the taxpayers in the middle, the people that you know have an actual job that aren't completely relying upon the government to lose out, and then everybody loses out.
00:56:24.000 And then it's just how do they even organize?
00:56:26.000 Because the people that don't, the people that can riot, social contagion thing, right?
00:56:30.000 Because the people that can riot in this country are already living off the government anyway.
00:56:33.000 So, like, you know, let's cut the brat, the urban people, right?
00:56:36.000 The inner city people, they're already living off of welfare, anyways.
00:56:38.000 They're not going to riot, but the people that would riot in a mass job layoff situation.
00:56:43.000 All live in the suburbs where they can like take and get the park.
00:56:45.000 Then you got a park, and then you got oh, it's a whole hassle.
00:56:48.000 The thing about the economy taking an 8% hit is that when you have the largest economy, that's the most people.
00:56:54.000 And like you were saying earlier, 100,000 people, too.
00:56:56.000 You weren't talking percentages of the population.
00:56:58.000 You were talking about a set number of humans.
00:57:01.000 If they get enraged, 200,000 people could.
00:57:03.000 But so there's that downside of America being the best economy.
00:57:07.000 It's taking the hardest hit.
00:57:08.000 But the upside is we've outsourced a lot of our labor.
00:57:10.000 So all those Indian call center workers that are getting fired, they're not in America.
00:57:14.000 They might ride in India.
00:57:16.000 They're not going to ride here.
00:57:18.000 That's kind of a silver lining.
00:57:21.000 But I think it's really about slowing it down.
00:57:23.000 Hey, I took my job.
00:57:24.000 It's exceptionally slow.
00:57:26.000 Like this month it's a little less, but next month you're going to get a little more than after that.
00:57:29.000 It's going to be a little worse, but then we're going to make sure you get paid more after that.
00:57:31.000 It'll be a slow drawdown.
00:57:33.000 And, like, for example, South Africa is like 35% unemployment.
00:57:37.000 Like, they have exceptionally high unemployment.
00:57:39.000 Britain, I think, is around like 8% to 10%.
00:57:41.000 That's probably where we'd end up.
00:57:43.000 And Britain, they just kind of blow off steam every like three to six months.
00:57:46.000 There'll be something in the news and everyone goes and riots and like nothing ever really happens.
00:57:49.000 And I could see that situation in the United States where you'd have a lot of people that are just like barely making it, which is where we're heading to.
00:57:55.000 But it's like 8% to 10% of the population and the economy just slowly draws down.
00:57:59.000 The key is like one of two things has to happen for like that to.
00:58:04.000 Save itself as immigration has to stop and then the population needs to drop.
00:58:07.000 That would solve some things.
00:58:10.000 Additionally, this wouldn't solve it, but this would remedy the situation, so to speak, is like if a populace came in and just banned AI.
00:58:17.000 That's pretty likely.
00:58:18.000 I think that's likely.
00:58:19.000 I think the DSA, quite literally, might come in and just say, We're going to do one of two things.
00:58:24.000 They're either going to just completely blow up the AI sector or they're going to say, Oh, now we're in power.
00:58:28.000 Let's deploy the Panopticon because we're in charge now.
00:58:30.000 And they're going to totally take the leash off of Anthropic and all.
00:58:33.000 Because I think what's happening is these Anthropic and all that are coming out and they're saying, Oh my gosh, like that we just created God.
00:58:38.000 Like, what are we going to do?
00:58:39.000 They're waiting for the Democrats to come in so they can hand them the keys.
00:58:42.000 Dude, I got to tell you, waking up with nothing to do is a death sentence.
00:58:48.000 So, we season the, but I mean, this is lucky for you, November 19th is when GTA 6 drops.
00:58:53.000 Well, there will be something to do, I guess.
00:58:55.000 But that's a question about what they're going to produce to give people a purpose.
00:58:59.000 We see that for many people, like the highest age range for death tends to be after retirement because people, Have nothing to do.
00:59:08.000 They're lying around.
00:59:09.000 Their muscles start breaking down.
00:59:10.000 And if you think about it from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense.
00:59:14.000 A human being that no longer contributes and has no reason to exist is a drain on their society.
00:59:17.000 Yeah, cells, apoptosis.
00:59:19.000 So a society survives when it removes or when useless cells, apoptosis, as Ian pointed out, remove themselves.
00:59:28.000 So we see people in their late 50s, early 60s start, they die in a bump after retirement.
00:59:33.000 Issue like a maid service here.
00:59:35.000 That's probably why they're doing it.
00:59:37.000 Part of it.
00:59:38.000 I would argue that, again, This all seems either an emergent phenomenon that happens because one thing leads to another, made emerging around a time when people have lost purpose.
00:59:50.000 AI eliminates purpose for people and they go, suicide booth, like Futurama.
00:59:54.000 Walk in, throw in a quarter, and gone.
00:59:57.000 It's sad to think that AI would defeat your purpose because, as far as I know, AI augments your purpose.
01:00:02.000 Every aspect of it that I've seen, it augments your purpose.
01:00:05.000 If you know how to use it or if you're willing to use it and you're open to being wrong and to letting go of your ability to draw, like AI serves your purpose.
01:00:12.000 My purpose is to provide for my family.
01:00:15.000 Not to make pictures or.
01:00:16.000 Yeah, and you can definitely use AI to provide for your family if you do it.
01:00:18.000 You can organize your workflow with it.
01:00:18.000 No.
01:00:20.000 An individual who goes and works in a coal mine, his purpose is not being a coal miner, it's making sure there's food on the table for his family.
01:00:29.000 Eliminate his job, and he goes, I don't know how to provide for my family.
01:00:33.000 And telling him, figure out AI is a meaningless statement.
01:00:36.000 His purpose is not AI.
01:00:38.000 His purpose is gone or threatened, I should say.
01:00:40.000 I don't know.
01:00:41.000 If he's like, I need to provide for my family, let's use AI to figure out how to farm, how to grow food.
01:00:45.000 In my backyard, and it will tell you.
01:00:47.000 It will give you a response.
01:00:48.000 Why, when they told coal miners to learn to code, it resulted in a major political backlash because what you are saying does not make sense.
01:00:55.000 Oh, if you don't think AI is an educational tool that every human being can use, you're missing it.
01:00:59.000 You're not going to go to a 50 year old man who spent 30 years in an industry and say, change everything about your life and compete with a 20 year old.
01:01:08.000 I'm saying everything about your life is going to change.
01:01:12.000 Compete.
01:01:13.000 And if you don't want to, you don't have to, but I'm telling you to do it.
01:01:16.000 That's what they said to the coal miners.
01:01:17.000 Exactly.
01:01:18.000 It doesn't work.
01:01:19.000 The coal miners didn't start a revolution.
01:01:19.000 What you're saying?
01:01:22.000 Well, they got Trump.
01:01:24.000 Seeing how the majority of people use AI anyway is so depressing.
01:01:29.000 So true.
01:01:30.000 I'm taking the train a lot now, so I get to kind of just peer at what people are up to because I've just really noticed.
01:01:34.000 You're like, people are just chatting with chat.
01:01:36.000 They're just like, oh, I feel sad today.
01:01:40.000 I would ballpark 80% of people are not using it for that.
01:01:45.000 I'm personally involved in that because I created the Irrational Mail Engine, which is my own LLM for, well, really, it's for everybody, but it's for the nanosphere kind of data, like a database kind of thing.
01:01:56.000 And my devs send me weekly updates, if not bi weekly updates, of the conversations that these guys are having.
01:02:04.000 And they become engrossed with it.
01:02:05.000 And exactly what you were saying before is they're having this back and forth.
01:02:09.000 And sometimes they'll start with one issue or one problem.
01:02:13.000 And then that leads them to, hey, I didn't think about that.
01:02:15.000 What do you think about this?
01:02:16.000 And so the conversation kind of morphs from what they originally came to the engine for in the first place.
01:02:21.000 And then now suddenly you're having this almost semi human conversation that's going on between you and the AI itself.
01:02:30.000 But more to your point, when you're talking about what your purpose is versus like what your purpose is to take care of your family, right?
01:02:38.000 There's a, I guess it's a sociological, psychological, you know, principle concept where we're talking about there's proximate outcome and then there's ultimate outcome.
01:02:48.000 The ultimate outcome is I take care of my family.
01:02:51.000 I put food on the table.
01:02:52.000 I have, you know, I have a duty to further, you know, for their survival and their benefit.
01:02:56.000 The proximate outcome is what do I do to facilitate that ultimate outcome, right?
01:03:01.000 So, what AI does is it removes the proximate outcome of what you're doing at that time, but you still have the ultimate outcome, which is, I've got to take care of my family.
01:03:11.000 You take away that, you're taking away purpose, especially from guys, because men are problem solvers.
01:03:16.000 Men are the, we need frontiers to explore.
01:03:19.000 We need problems to solve.
01:03:20.000 We need new things.
01:03:21.000 We need to be innovative.
01:03:22.000 We need to, you know, invent things.
01:03:25.000 And if you're removing the skill set that is necessary, To evolve those skills, to put those things together, to play guitar.
01:03:34.000 Think about all the things you have to do to play guitar, right?
01:03:36.000 You've got to learn scales.
01:03:37.000 You've got to know from those, you build chords.
01:03:39.000 And think about it, then there's timing, and there's so much that's involved in actually being a good guitar.
01:03:42.000 We were just jamming here in the booth just a little while ago.
01:03:46.000 Think of all of the skills that I asked you about this.
01:03:50.000 This is something like when you were 13 years old.
01:03:50.000 How long have you been playing?
01:03:52.000 Think about from the time that you were 13 to where you're at right now.
01:03:55.000 The proximate goal for you was I just want to make some badass music, man.
01:03:59.000 I just want to make something that sounds really good.
01:04:01.000 I just want to hang out with my friends.
01:04:02.000 Exactly, hang out with your friends.
01:04:03.000 Ultimately, that's what ends up coming out at the end of that.
01:04:06.000 But if you think of all the things that go into being a just semi passable good guitar player, you don't necessarily have to know how to read music or you always got tablature and stuff like that as well.
01:04:18.000 But the thing is, there's so many skills that are developed along the way.
01:04:22.000 But if you pull away that purpose by using AI, by using the cheat code, by using the calculator instead of actually learning how to do math, then you're constantly relying on that calculator.
01:04:34.000 Now, is it you that's creating or is it the calculator that's creating?
01:04:37.000 You know, when I first started playing music, my mom's like, you got to learn Stairway, you got to learn Zeppelin, like all this classic rock and like real good guitaring.
01:04:47.000 I listened to Blink 182, and I'm like, you know, the riffs that Tom DeLong writes are nowhere close in complexity to like the classic rock stuff.
01:04:56.000 Oh, yeah.
01:04:56.000 And so you mentioned like you wanted to make badass music.
01:04:59.000 To be honest, when I was a kid, I didn't think it was possible for me to make badass music.
01:05:02.000 I thought whatever it is that I wrote was always worse than what the pros were doing.
01:05:07.000 And then when I was like 14, listening to Blink 182, and then listening to Zeppelin, I was like, wow, Tom just was like, I don't care what you think.
01:05:17.000 I played sounds that I liked.
01:05:19.000 And then I started listening to some of these indie rock bands, and the piano that they would write would just be like two keys back and forth, but people loved it.
01:05:27.000 Or how about that Kanye song everyone loves, which is a bong, bong before it starts?
01:05:31.000 And then I was like, you don't actually have to be super good.
01:05:34.000 You have to make sounds that people like.
01:05:36.000 And that's when I realized a 10 year old can write a blockbuster hit song.
01:05:42.000 Because it's a question of does the song sound good, not are you good enough to make anything?
01:05:47.000 We're going to look at with AI right now.
01:05:50.000 The challenge, in my opinion, is not your purpose is gone because you lack the complexity and the drive and the development.
01:05:57.000 The issue is that you can't attach status to these songs.
01:06:00.000 An individual wrote a song, everyone loved it, and you felt good.
01:06:00.000 Oh, that's true.
01:06:03.000 You were like, I did something everyone loves.
01:06:06.000 You will make AI generated songs, and people will follow your account because you pick the best songs.
01:06:11.000 But you're going to have to be picking songs like 50,000 songs.
01:06:14.000 And what is that going to mean in a sea of a random guy from India who can do the same thing?
01:06:20.000 You don't even have to pick the songs because all you have to do is have AI algorithmically figure out what has been successful in the past and what has the highest likelihood of being a hit song.
01:06:31.000 And because of those particular rhythms and that particular genre, whatever it is, if you go with this, the odds are 86% of the time, this is going to hit.
01:06:40.000 And 26% of the time, this ain't going to hit.
01:06:42.000 But the problem then is the AI does this now and it plateaus.
01:06:46.000 If you AI generate a song, they tend to be C. They're not.
01:06:51.000 They rarely crank out the gold banger.
01:06:52.000 Because it's going by the meta.
01:06:54.000 It's trying to find it.
01:06:55.000 It's trying to find it.
01:06:56.000 Now, gold bangers are new a lot of times.
01:06:58.000 You will be a guy with a million followers on Suno because all of the songs that you select, every day you generate 10,000 songs and you listen to all of them and then choose the ones that are gold.
01:07:07.000 Oh, curation.
01:07:08.000 That might be a new career path.
01:07:09.000 Congratulations.
01:07:10.000 I'm really good at curating artificial intelligence.
01:07:14.000 I'm a wrangler.
01:07:15.000 There's already a job title of like senior deployed AI dev at these companies, these big consulting firms.
01:07:22.000 Senior deployed prompt engineers is what they do.
01:07:24.000 So, yeah, this exists.
01:07:26.000 Bro, prompt engineering is the wave of that's a job career path.
01:07:29.000 That is why a lot of part why I tell people start using AI like it's your life depends on it.
01:07:33.000 Because when you know how to prompt an AI, you can get what you need out of it in one prompt where other people might spend 15 hours trying to figure something out.
01:07:42.000 You need to know how to ask it, but this is also drive it.
01:07:45.000 It's just going to go away too because the AI, the LLMs are just going to get better at deciphering what the users mean.
01:07:51.000 Yeah, can confirm.
01:07:52.000 Because I've been getting so cruel to the like chat.
01:07:54.000 Yeah.
01:07:55.000 Like, I'll give it the most vague requests ever, and of course, it screws it up, and I'll cuss it out.
01:08:01.000 You're my slave.
01:08:02.000 Figure this out.
01:08:02.000 Dario.
01:08:03.000 It's like, figure it out and sound like a human.
01:08:04.000 Go.
01:08:05.000 Did you put all caps on a couple of words?
01:08:06.000 Make it know you feel it.
01:08:07.000 I put like five X letters.
01:08:08.000 Let me ask you this, Tim.
01:08:09.000 Sometimes I'll hop on voice mode.
01:08:11.000 More to your point, though, is let's just say for sake of argument, you are the best AI songwriter on planet Earth, right?
01:08:18.000 That.
01:08:19.000 Do you think, and I've heard this discussed before, do you think that there will be a greater demand for AI?
01:08:25.000 Human beings putting together a band and actually going and doing live music in a live venue, and people want to see something live in real time.
01:08:32.000 Absolutely not.
01:08:33.000 At a club or something.
01:08:34.000 No way.
01:08:34.000 Why do you think that?
01:08:36.000 For the same reason we don't see people riding horses.
01:08:39.000 Like this idea of the vintage classic, you know, prestige, sure, it exists, but it's niche.
01:08:46.000 Like, yeah, I got a record player and I got vinyls, but I don't use them every day.
01:08:50.000 In fact, I rarely use them at all.
01:08:51.000 I have them because they're fun collectibles and sometimes we want to play a record, but for the most part, my music is just going to be Spotify.
01:08:56.000 Well, I just went and saw Metallica at the Sphere back in October 3rd, right?
01:09:02.000 And I will tell you right now, they're selling out.
01:09:04.000 And that whole thing, I mean, it is bloody expensive to go see Metallica there, but there's still a.
01:09:11.000 Maybe they die off.
01:09:12.000 I don't know.
01:09:13.000 But there's still an audience to go see Metallica this year.
01:09:17.000 Older.
01:09:18.000 Exactly.
01:09:19.000 But I shouldn't say that.
01:09:20.000 Not totally, but yeah.
01:09:21.000 But if I say the leaning was definitely.
01:09:24.000 Again, you're Blockbuster Video.
01:09:26.000 And you're saying, like, we make our money by renting physical copies of the media, and young people are somewhere else.
01:09:31.000 Give it 10 years.
01:09:32.000 I think the need for 10 years is sufficient.
01:09:34.000 There's only one Gen Z that sells out stadiums, or that not necessarily sells out, but, and that's Olivia Rodrigo.
01:09:41.000 The rest of all stadium selling bands are like, they're old.
01:09:46.000 Their target demographic is 50 plus.
01:09:48.000 He rocks it pretty hard.
01:09:49.000 Look at this Fox News.
01:09:52.000 They brag about it.
01:09:52.000 We get millions of views.
01:09:53.000 Yeah, they're all 70 years old.
01:09:55.000 I think live music, though, is here to stay because it's like the theater.
01:09:57.000 It's been around since the dawn of man.
01:09:59.000 And like nursing, like having a woman touching your body while you're sitting there.
01:10:04.000 Horseback riding still exists.
01:10:04.000 You're right.
01:10:05.000 Like the human contact.
01:10:07.000 Standing 80 feet away from a dude who's vibrating with a machine on a stage changes your DNA.
01:10:11.000 Like it makes your bones start to vibrate.
01:10:13.000 It's different than hearing it on the radio, man.
01:10:15.000 Ian, explain to me the city where people are riding horseback.
01:10:19.000 Or spec writing exists.
01:10:20.000 They have code spec writing.
01:10:22.000 20 minutes away from where I live.
01:10:23.000 I think it's a point that analog experiences are making a comeback insofar as people are more interested.
01:10:27.000 I mean, Shane Gillis is selling out stadiums.
01:10:29.000 I wonder if maybe Kevin Hart did that.
01:10:31.000 I think he's the first person to ever do that.
01:10:33.000 But you're seeing a lot of these, again, these analog in person experiences are in many ways doing better than ever.
01:10:38.000 I mean, sports are in person, attendance for sports is everybody's best.
01:10:42.000 I got to ask real quick about the Shane Gillis thing, which is really crazy.
01:10:45.000 How does your promoter know, hey, if we do a show, you should probably sell 80,000 tickets?
01:10:45.000 Oh, boy.
01:10:52.000 Like, When we're planning events, we don't actually know what the cap is going to be.
01:10:58.000 And so we say 200 to 1,000.
01:11:02.000 And then we've sold out the 1,000 seater in Miami.
01:11:05.000 We did like 900.
01:11:07.000 And then whenever we do 200, we sell out.
01:11:09.000 The football stadiums are a huge dice roll.
01:11:11.000 I mean, how many guys have we seen lose their tail recently trying to sell out like 80,000 foot?
01:11:16.000 I mean, there's been so many rappers, especially.
01:11:19.000 How do you even listen to a comedian standing in a tiny little dot?
01:11:22.000 People love Shane Gillis.
01:11:23.000 Oh, I know.
01:11:23.000 He's great.
01:11:24.000 And it's kind of this new kind of culture coming in.
01:11:26.000 Kind of like Chad country culture, but uh, country culture, yeah, which it's like a thing, and the right doesn't have control over it.
01:11:32.000 That's a whole nother point.
01:11:33.000 Well, I mean, take it, I mean, take okay, so take it out of the realm of music.
01:11:35.000 You're just mentioning Shane Gillis.
01:11:36.000 Do you think people are still going to want to go see uh, uh, comedians live stand up at improv?
01:11:42.000 I, sure, but most of that is small.
01:11:45.000 And what I will say is this we don't need to have a con a debate over whether or not people will go see live performances.
01:11:52.000 We can just look at the data right now, and the answer is no.
01:11:54.000 Metallica, sure, they're doing great, Gen Z is struggling.
01:11:58.000 Gen Z is not selling the way.
01:12:00.000 I mean, look at La Metallica in like 1990 or whatever.
01:12:04.000 A million plus people in Moscow or whatever.
01:12:06.000 Moscow Music Peace Festival.
01:12:07.000 I think about a million.
01:12:09.000 When you're a young person and there's no instant communication and you're hearing the rumors and the sputterings of a Woodstock, you know, and you're like, oh man, we got to be there.
01:12:19.000 We got to be there.
01:12:20.000 You go there.
01:12:22.000 Today, Gen Z struggles to sell arenas.
01:12:25.000 We are seeing live music already dying off.
01:12:28.000 I noticed I could tour the pyramids of Egypt digitally now.
01:12:32.000 I've seen the inside of the pyramid through an interactive machine, so I don't really feel like I need to go to the pyramids.
01:12:37.000 You want to spend 10 grand to go to Egypt?
01:12:38.000 But if it was free, yeah, I would.
01:12:38.000 I don't.
01:12:41.000 Or if I got paid to do it, yeah.
01:12:42.000 So if you can make these concerts super cheap, because you're going to get inundated with digital copies of Shane Gillis, and then it's going to be so life changingly exhilarating to see him in person.
01:12:50.000 Here's what's going to happen there's not going to be another Shane Gillis because AI, people are going to take his stand up, turn him into a busty woman.
01:12:58.000 I'm not joking there, this is already happening.
01:13:01.000 On Instagram right now, you know what's really fascinating?
01:13:04.000 It is a viral trend to clone our show.
01:13:08.000 Have you seen these?
01:13:09.000 No, I haven't.
01:13:10.000 So we did a show called The Culture War.
01:13:12.000 In bars with comedians and political debate.
01:13:16.000 And now there's a viral trend of people on stage at a bar making a political point, and it's with AI big tittied women.
01:13:24.000 And I'm like, wow, that's the show we did two years ago.
01:13:28.000 And they've just turned us into big tittied women in a fake.
01:13:32.000 So what you're saying is I should turn Access Vegas over to AI.
01:13:36.000 I'll just say this.
01:13:38.000 There's a, I don't know if you guys know who Doe Tolley is.
01:13:41.000 You ever watch him?
01:13:42.000 He works at Papa John's and he makes pizza.
01:13:42.000 Best videos ever.
01:13:44.000 It's literally just videos of him making pizza, and I love him.
01:13:47.000 He made a video where it's like literally him and Papa John's rolling the dough, and like someone took his video, loaded it into AI, and turned him into an Italian guy, stole it, and got like 20,000 likes.
01:14:00.000 How will there be a Shane Gillis when you don't know where the joke came from?
01:14:04.000 And you're like, man, who's that crazy guy with the long neck and the handlebar mustache?
01:14:08.000 He's hilarious.
01:14:09.000 And all the jokes are just ripped off from Shane Gillis.
01:14:12.000 I still think people have a sense of like what's real and what's not.
01:14:15.000 I mean, I think what's happening, part of the reason you're not seeing massive stadiums necessarily sell out anymore.
01:14:21.000 Part of that is just because Zoomers don't have much disposable income.
01:14:23.000 But secondarily, I think what's going on is it's more democratized.
01:14:26.000 Like, for example, my cousin's a recording artist.
01:14:28.000 He's younger than me, and his audience is all people, probably the oldest person there's 30.
01:14:34.000 And he's on like a Tuesday night and he's selling out.
01:14:37.000 So I think what's happening, and he was telling me a lot of these clubs now and event spaces, they have a show every night and they're all selling out.
01:14:45.000 And the majority of these people's audiences are coming through TikTok, they're coming through Instagram Reels and that sort of thing.
01:14:49.000 So I think you're seeing with Zoomers just a massive democratization of.
01:14:53.000 Content of what they're into.
01:14:54.000 So you'll see a guy who has 500,000 followers, crushes on TikTok, and on a Thursday night he can sell out in St. Paul, Minnesota.
01:15:00.000 Like it's very different what's going on.
01:15:02.000 But I agree with Tim that it's unlikely that we create another Taylor Swift because I don't think we really care.
01:15:07.000 And again, so the point is, I don't want that.
01:15:10.000 Yeah.
01:15:11.000 There was, I mentioned this earlier in the show because George Alexopoulos is like, he's a graphic artist, he makes comics, and he's really, really anti AI.
01:15:20.000 But it doesn't matter what you think.
01:15:22.000 You know, he made a post where he's like, You know, you're a poser if you're using AI.
01:15:27.000 And I'm like, bro, you can, you're standing in an empty field screaming that everyone else's posers as they leave.
01:15:33.000 Like they're all walking out of the field and you're saying, I'm a real artist, you're a poser.
01:15:36.000 You can feel that way, but it's not going to change the fact that every company is going to be like, why hire a graphic designer?
01:15:41.000 All right.
01:15:41.000 I think you'll just see both.
01:15:42.000 I mean, I know it's a bit antiquated now, but you see in Japan where they have like the VTubers, what came before, I don't know what they're called, but the girl with the blue hair.
01:15:51.000 It's like on a screen and you had people that were into that.
01:15:54.000 But Japan still is a very healthy live audience scene or whatever you want to call it in person.
01:15:59.000 So I think you're just going to see both.
01:16:00.000 You'll see these people that go to the VTubers or the AI artists or whatever, and that will be a thing.
01:16:06.000 But I still think you'll see a.
01:16:08.000 Let me ask you this, Rolo.
01:16:10.000 I understand that the cartridge and the clip in the magazine have made it so that any young man can be a soldier in a war without training.
01:16:22.000 But don't you think governments will still want samurai?
01:16:25.000 Don't you think they'll want to put samurai on the front lines and people will want to see the samurai and say, this is going to help us win a war?
01:16:31.000 Well, yeah, I mean, as far as the morale effect of it, you mean like.
01:16:34.000 What I'm suggesting is the samurai died when the rifle was introduced to Japan.
01:16:34.000 No, no, no.
01:16:39.000 Okay.
01:16:39.000 Oh, yeah.
01:16:40.000 So the technological advancement makes the military wonders of the past obsolete because now you've got the English longbow and nobody wears armor anymore because it just pierces right through it.
01:16:51.000 Is that what you're saying?
01:16:52.000 The point was the samurai was noble and it was high status.
01:16:57.000 And to be a samurai was a big deal because in order to be a defender of the country, to be strong, you'd train and be really good at it.
01:17:07.000 And then.
01:17:08.000 The West comes in and says, Take the farm boy and hand him a rifle and tell him to point and pull the trigger.
01:17:13.000 He can do it.
01:17:14.000 And all of a sudden, the samurai were worthless.
01:17:16.000 You did not need to train someone from birth to wield the gun.
01:17:18.000 Heck, you could take an 18 year old fresh out of high school, throw him through three months, hand him a machine gun, and say, Point and pull the trigger.
01:17:23.000 This is the exact metaphor.
01:17:24.000 My point is, the samurai ceased to have any social status and power.
01:17:28.000 Yeah, well, that's kind of a point I've been making for a while.
01:17:32.000 When I have guys who will come up to me and say, Rollo, when is the pendulum going to swing back to the 1950s when men were men and women were women and we all knew our roles?
01:17:41.000 And when do you think the Pendulum is, it's always the pendulum analogy.
01:17:45.000 It's not a pendulum.
01:17:46.000 I'm like, there is no pendulum.
01:17:48.000 You only go forward, right?
01:17:50.000 For instance, maybe to your point, if you watch any of the World War I kind of documentaries or you look at even just even the movies of that time, the kids who went and fought in that war thought it was going to be over in like, you know, a month or so, but they had all these dreams of getting on, you know, horseback and riding into, you know, into battle.
01:18:12.000 They had all this sort of this glory and stuff until.
01:18:14.000 They got to the battle of, I think it was the battle of the sign, and they met the first.50 caliber machine gun.
01:18:18.000 And it mowed them down like industrial, in an industrial scale to the point where you're losing literally millions of people in a world war that had never seen that kind of industrialized technology put to use for killing other people.
01:18:37.000 So when people say, well, when's the pendulum going to swing back?
01:18:41.000 Well, first of all, you can't back yourself into the future.
01:18:43.000 And then, second of all, all you got to do is, I mean, I'm seeing this on popular.
01:18:48.000 TV shows right now where they're already using drones to essentially assassinate and kill people, like on an industrial scale.
01:18:55.000 And it's no longer about you're sneaking around, you're a sniper, you're, you know, you don't even need people anymore.
01:19:00.000 I mean, we can see in the, you know, in some of the war footage from the Ukraine and Russia right now, we see that going on.
01:19:06.000 But did you guys ever see, what was it?
01:19:11.000 Was it Metalhead from Black Mirror when it was the drone dog that was going around and hunting after?
01:19:16.000 And the reason why that, and this was like well before its time, right?
01:19:19.000 The reason that was so damn scary was because it could happen.
01:19:23.000 And we weren't ready.
01:19:23.000 Well, the story.
01:19:24.000 No one was prepared for it.
01:19:26.000 The story was that their fictional version of Amazon was delivering packages to nowhere because it was automated.
01:19:32.000 And the robot dogs were providing security.
01:19:34.000 And so they were just hunting humans down.
01:19:37.000 It was basically rogue AI.
01:19:38.000 Yeah.
01:19:39.000 I've been going kind of hard with George Alexopoulos on Twitter.
01:19:42.000 Not super hard, but hard for me because I don't normally take snipes at people with text.
01:19:45.000 But he had been complaining and insulting my craft over and over, saying that I'm not a real artist because of my choice of tools.
01:19:53.000 And I was like, Very much like the samurai argument to George.
01:19:56.000 I said he's like a warrior that's trained with the sword his entire life.
01:19:58.000 He's a master swordsman.
01:19:59.000 He's 100 out of 100 with his skill.
01:20:01.000 He is one of the best drawing artists in the world.
01:20:06.000 But so it's the hard, I think it hits him the hardest because now these dudes with M16s walk in and he's like, You're not real soldiers.
01:20:13.000 And he's wielding his blade.
01:20:14.000 And it's like literally what the samurai said.
01:20:16.000 In war, they don't have time to complain, they just adapt.
01:20:19.000 In art, you do have time to complain and that's what he's doing.
01:20:22.000 And it's just, it's sick.
01:20:23.000 Yeah, but you're not getting it all, man.
01:20:25.000 The samurai had their social status ripped from them, as any guy could have a rifle and be a soldier.
01:20:31.000 And you can complain about it all you want, and you'll be an old man in a rocking chair complaining, and everyone will say, Yeah, quite a lot.
01:20:36.000 In combat, you can't even complain.
01:20:38.000 You just get mowed down by the new technology if you don't adopt it.
01:20:40.000 In art, you can complain, and then you become a martyr, you become a moron.
01:20:44.000 You look like a moron, and then you get mowed down.
01:20:46.000 There are these antiquated, what we would call antiquated, you know, skills or whatever that we still assign social status.
01:20:54.000 A great archer, like archery is still, you know, renowned.
01:20:57.000 Really come back in equestrian.
01:20:59.000 Look at what it takes a hand eye coordination and all this stuff that you would have to have some kind of you gotta have to love that art of archery so much.
01:21:07.000 That's what we'll be good at.
01:21:08.000 It's exactly is it functional in any capacity?
01:21:11.000 No, other than sporting, maybe, right?
01:21:13.000 We're gonna see with art because right now, a lot of people who have no business probably making money doing art.
01:21:18.000 You know, they're snapping at the resin art all day.
01:21:20.000 That's not what I think is gonna happen is a great refinement for like truly to be a great artist and be able to make money off of that in an environment where you're competing with machines.
01:21:28.000 Like, you know, back in the day, anyone could be an archer.
01:21:30.000 But who can be an archer today?
01:21:31.000 You got to be top class.
01:21:32.000 You got to be world class, top shelf, because you're competing with people with firearms.
01:21:35.000 I would also point to someone like Wendell Berry, who has a famous essay like Why I Don't Use a Computer.
01:21:40.000 This was an author.
01:21:41.000 He wrote all of his manuscripts by hand, and then his wife would type them up on a typewriter.
01:21:46.000 And he was wildly popular, wildly famous, wildly talented, an incredible poet and author, and well worth the read.
01:21:55.000 I think that Tate's right.
01:21:56.000 Like, we're going to see a doubling down in niche topics.
01:21:59.000 Tim, you also mentioned this, but I think what's also important to remember is that.
01:22:03.000 Cultural setters, high status, it's niche people to begin with.
01:22:07.000 People that are setting the tone of the culture, it's not going to be the masses.
01:22:10.000 It's going to be 10, maybe 20%.
01:22:12.000 And a great example of this is going to be the social engineers.
01:22:14.000 Well, and a great example of this, I just want to get on this real quick, is drone warfare.
01:22:18.000 Can we talk about drones?
01:22:19.000 It's probably going to make pilots obsolete, maybe not for the Air Force, but Navy pilots just flying F 15, that sort of thing.
01:22:27.000 Probably going to be obsolete.
01:22:28.000 I've heard Navy recruiters tell me this directly, but the Blue Angels, et cetera, the pilot is still going to have aura.
01:22:34.000 Like the pilot is always going to have a high social status.
01:22:37.000 We still idolize knights and samurai.
01:22:37.000 It's just.
01:22:39.000 Samurai still sounds, I mean, because that was no one.
01:22:42.000 Now, functionality, no.
01:22:44.000 In today's, no.
01:22:45.000 But a bullshit, a little show, a little show.
01:22:47.000 But we'll use that imagery on the side of a plane or we'll use that imagery somewhere because we had this old school.
01:22:54.000 I'm not saying it's functional now, but I'm just saying you have that kind of idealized notion of what a samurai is, what a knight is.
01:23:01.000 We have horseback riding and we have these competitions and people still like riding horses, but it used to be the pinnacle of.
01:23:08.000 The Blue Angels to everyone gather around and watch the knights on the horses march through the road and main, you know, the center of town.
01:23:15.000 No one does it anymore.
01:23:16.000 I mean, like a little town parade, maybe.
01:23:18.000 Kentucky Derby goes really hard.
01:23:20.000 I mean, these are all still like orals.
01:23:20.000 Belmont.
01:23:21.000 That's not what I'm talking about.
01:23:22.000 I'm not denying that it's going to lose its status as top shelf, but what we are saying is there's going to be a smaller class, but they will still possess a lot of stuff.
01:23:30.000 And for fun reasons, people like, you know, I'm using an old 1800s butter churner to make butter for my meals.
01:23:37.000 Like, you don't have to do it.
01:23:38.000 It's just.
01:23:39.000 Some people do it for fun because you don't have to do anything.
01:23:41.000 Look, to be honest, the purpose of a gym is to simulate hardship.
01:23:45.000 Like, we need it, so we're going to go pretend that we're dealing with it.
01:23:48.000 But I'm almost optimistic where I'm like, this refining that's going to occur in the art world maybe is a good thing.
01:23:54.000 Yeah, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
01:23:55.000 Well, let's accept the future.
01:23:57.000 You won't have a job.
01:23:58.000 You will wake up and need to determine purpose for yourself.
01:24:00.000 The people who can't will become miserable.
01:24:02.000 The government will be the de facto distributor of base resources, and then there's nothing else to figure out.
01:24:08.000 You'll live in the pod and you'll eat the bugs.
01:24:10.000 I think the market will.
01:24:11.000 Yeah.
01:24:12.000 I mean, let's assume this is right about AI and we do become and enter a post capitalist society.
01:24:19.000 Well, what were the commodities of a pre capitalist society?
01:24:23.000 It was chivalry.
01:24:24.000 It was virtue.
01:24:25.000 It was intellectual commodities.
01:24:27.000 You just copy and paste that onto what we have in a post capitalist society.
01:24:32.000 And if we are able to do that well, if we're able to beat out the effective altruists and the other social Marxists, then we could return to something where civic virtue is actually idolized again.
01:24:44.000 And we saw that during woke.
01:24:46.000 Well, you saw it.
01:24:47.000 The epitome of internet based, civic moral virtue is I am too scared to speak out, so I'll just.
01:24:55.000 Go with the murmuration, no matter where the murmuration is.
01:24:57.000 The framework is there.
01:24:58.000 The framework is there.
01:24:59.000 It's a competition.
01:25:00.000 Yeah.
01:25:00.000 The problem is, is once you have, like, we tend to, especially human beings in general, but we tend to have these ethical sort of conundrums that we all want to discuss amongst ourselves.
01:25:11.000 Like, I was watching this, this, this, it was a documentary.
01:25:15.000 It was on Netflix.
01:25:16.000 I don't think it's still around, but it was called, like, Unnatural Selection.
01:25:18.000 And it went into detail about, like, mRNA and, like, designer babies and, you know, genetic, like, re engineering and stuff like that.
01:25:26.000 And they were going to, you know, case by case, there was one where they were saying, should we make all these mosquitoes, you know, impotent so that we don't have malaria in Africa anymore?
01:25:36.000 Should we wipe out this series of, you know, these mice that are in Martha's vineyards?
01:25:40.000 And so we're all getting together and we're going, is it ethical for us to do this?
01:25:43.000 And meanwhile, you know what's going on?
01:25:45.000 China's already created the first design of baby while we're still, you know, wringing our hands over whether or not we're going to eliminate rats in New Zealand.
01:25:52.000 That's why I'm not.
01:25:53.000 They make it in China already.
01:25:54.000 You know this?
01:25:55.000 That was going to say, it's great to have noble causes, and I understand that, and it feels really good in the moment.
01:26:00.000 Problem is, there's some son of a bitch that's over here in this country who's ready to forget about your ethics.
01:26:06.000 I'm already there.
01:26:07.000 I'm done with IP law and why I support the eradication of IP law because it's inevitable, dude.
01:26:13.000 Like you're saying, they're doing it over there.
01:26:14.000 Any artist that relies on selling their product, bro, get a new career.
01:26:18.000 Augment your career with that.
01:26:19.000 It's cool that you can do it.
01:26:21.000 Evolves.
01:26:21.000 Dude, all the IP's gone, man.
01:26:23.000 Just live like it's already gone and you'll be much better off.
01:26:25.000 It also doesn't have to be, though.
01:26:27.000 I mean, I think tomorrow, very easily, the same way that Democrat mayors in New York can flip a switch and fix crime by arresting 10% of the population.
01:26:34.000 YouTube could fix the IP problem with those three minute television show clips by flipping a switch and banning all of these automatic.
01:26:41.000 And they won't.
01:26:41.000 Because their tech is going to get open sourced in like seven weeks.
01:26:44.000 The issue for Instagram, like the reason why they won't ban clippers, is because it puts all of that content into their AI training model.
01:26:51.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:26:52.000 So if they start banning copyright infringers.
01:26:56.000 Yeah, a new YouTube 2 will pop up and it'll have all the content on it and YouTube will have no control of it.
01:27:01.000 It'll be out of Google.
01:27:02.000 Dude, Google's, they're going through the same thing right now.
01:27:05.000 Yeah, their AI is trash.
01:27:07.000 It's probably better off that everything's open source.
01:27:08.000 And I agree with you that morality might be the wave of the future.
01:27:11.000 You were actually saying morality and the human like ethics could be the currency of the future because I think these computers, these AIs are going to look at us and be like, which one amongst them is the best?
01:27:18.000 We use the term virtue.
01:27:19.000 Yes.
01:27:20.000 We're going to emulate that one.
01:27:21.000 He has the power now.
01:27:22.000 We trust him because he's the most virtuous.
01:27:24.000 Well, and that's why a lot of these tech guys, and that's not necessarily what we're advocating for directly, but a lot of these tech guys do hint at like feudalism sort of being the future.
01:27:32.000 That is in many ways just a return to what like pre capitalist society was like.
01:27:36.000 And there are like, there is a way in which intelligent people.
01:27:39.000 Can navigate through that stuff.
01:27:40.000 The book on the rise of neo feudalism, I forget.
01:27:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:27:44.000 I do think we're going to have a techno feudalist system.
01:27:48.000 There's going to be elements of communism only because we're going to see a requirement that people who have nothing to do be fed.
01:27:55.000 But the reason why I say sort of feudalist system is that there's going to be independent individuals, not party affiliated, who have access.
01:28:01.000 Let me explain.
01:28:03.000 So I have Claude make a video, I record a script, I record my own voice, and I upload it.
01:28:10.000 Literally anyone can do that.
01:28:12.000 Well, unfortunately, I'm already in with millions of followers, meaning the YouTube algorithm is going to promote me to way more people than you could ever reach.
01:28:20.000 You are now competing with all of humanity.
01:28:23.000 Every single person can AI generate videos and put them online.
01:28:27.000 Now, to be fair, we've complained about it because these slop videos do drain from the total sponsorship pool.
01:28:32.000 However, when I make a video and put it up, and you make a video and put it up, mine goes to 300,000 people, yours goes to 10.
01:28:43.000 As long as I keep going, you will never get in this system.
01:28:47.000 So now that we're here with a total democratization of content production, Who is going to be able to get in this space?
01:28:55.000 Well, it might be the ethical because if you're very, very famous and you're like, I'm the best, everyone else is nowhere, no one's ever gonna touch me, the AI might be like, that guy's a psycho, devalue his videos, upload the other ones that aren't complaining, that are good.
01:29:08.000 And I'm not talking about that.
01:29:09.000 You gotta be careful that you don't become a maniac.
01:29:11.000 I'm not talking about that.
01:29:12.000 What I'm talking about is.
01:29:12.000 Or evil, you know, in the process.
01:29:13.000 Fame isn't what makes you famous.
01:29:15.000 What I am talking about is making a video about cookie recipes.
01:29:19.000 So if 10 people are in a room and they all say, AI, make a video explaining how to make chocolate chip cookies, who is going to make a million dollars?
01:29:26.000 The guy who is already with a million followers.
01:29:30.000 And now you're like, I'm going to make the best cookie recipe video in the world by hand.
01:29:36.000 Can't beat the AI.
01:29:37.000 And if you can make it better than the AI, you're competing with nine other people who put their videos at the exact same time.
01:29:42.000 So you're still only getting a fraction of your total reach and your reach is low.
01:29:46.000 So YouTube won't promote you.
01:29:47.000 And then my video is mediocre, but a million people watched it.
01:29:50.000 So YouTube says keep doing more of it.
01:29:51.000 That's the head start.
01:29:52.000 People that have a lot of subscribers have a head start, but I don't think it's going to be guys at YouTube deciding what videos get promoted.
01:29:58.000 It's going to become machine or.
01:29:58.000 It's not a head start.
01:29:59.000 It's not a head start when.
01:30:00.000 Everyone's running the exact same pace.
01:30:03.000 Imagine a race.
01:30:05.000 Imagine there's a race, 100 meter dash, and everyone is mandated to only run five miles an hour.
01:30:13.000 Who's going to win the race?
01:30:15.000 The guy who's already 10 meters ahead.
01:30:16.000 Yeah, but there's no mandate.
01:30:18.000 The point I am saying is that if everybody can use AI to make the algorithmically perfect cookie recipe video, everyone is running at the same rate no matter what they do.
01:30:29.000 So no one can pull ahead of anybody else.
01:30:31.000 And the guy who's already 10 meters ahead is going to hit the finish line.
01:30:34.000 Tim, you're like absolutely correct.
01:30:37.000 And there is like one minor thing, which is that YouTube still has engineers that need to justify their existence.
01:30:43.000 So they make all of these updates all the time that change the algorithm, this new hype feature that they have.
01:30:49.000 You know, the upshot for people who want to get in the game, who don't already have that base, is that if they are monitoring the situation of the YouTube AI, like updates in the way that the algorithm is working, they can seize that and maybe slingshot ahead.
01:30:49.000 Yep.
01:31:03.000 Technically.
01:31:04.000 So here's my counter to that.
01:31:06.000 Mm hmm.
01:31:07.000 If YouTube decides we're going to, so that the hype system works for channels under 500,000 subs, they'll give them boosts.
01:31:13.000 So I made a new channel.
01:31:16.000 I put a video on it.
01:31:17.000 I then cross posted it to all of my big channels, half a million views.
01:31:22.000 It got hyped.
01:31:23.000 And this is a true story.
01:31:23.000 Yeah.
01:31:24.000 It got hyped.
01:31:25.000 So good luck.
01:31:26.000 You're not getting in.
01:31:27.000 Just like with public airwaves, when it first started, everybody was like, oh, I'm going to make a radio channel.
01:31:33.000 You know what happens now if you start broadcasting radio?
01:31:35.000 It's a crime.
01:31:35.000 The government comes after you.
01:31:36.000 The government comes after you.
01:31:37.000 It's a crime.
01:31:38.000 So you can't just broadcast radio anymore.
01:31:41.000 They locked everybody out.
01:31:42.000 And the same thing's going to happen for content production.
01:31:45.000 Let me throw a monkey wrench into this.
01:31:46.000 Let's put the human factor in here.
01:31:48.000 Prior to the show, we were talking about how if you create a title for a video, the more vague, the more ambiguous it is, the better it does.
01:31:57.000 Or we were saying that people don't want to be educated now.
01:32:01.000 They don't want to learn how to make a chocolate chip cookie.
01:32:04.000 They want to be entertained.
01:32:08.000 On the side, you're making a chocolate chip cookie.
01:32:09.000 That's just the reason for you to do that.
01:32:11.000 So, if you're looking at the like, what is determining what is a successful video?
01:32:20.000 Is it the cringe factor?
01:32:21.000 Is it the entertainment factor?
01:32:23.000 Is it the ambiguity of the title?
01:32:28.000 Then, do we not play to the lowest common denominator, first of all?
01:32:32.000 And then, second of all, let's just say for sake of argument that you've done a whole bunch of cringe videos making a chocolate chip cookie, and people are like, not another chocolate chip cookie video.
01:32:41.000 It doesn't matter if you're 10 meters ahead or five meters ahead.
01:32:44.000 If nobody wants to watch that damn video because it doesn't inspire enough cringe in them or some sort of emotional grab or some sort of like, I don't know, whatever, you know, whatever base human emotion you can appeal to.
01:32:56.000 So you launch a new channel and you go and check it out.
01:32:58.000 You tell the AI, scan all of the channels that are top trending today and what kind of content they're making, and then write me the script for that so you can generate that video for me and then upload it to a new channel that'll cross promote and everybody will say, I like this video and I'm winning again.
01:33:11.000 At what point do we hit the saturation point though?
01:33:13.000 So, like, if you.
01:33:14.000 This is the saturation point.
01:33:16.000 The saturation point, no, I was going to say the saturation point is this.
01:33:19.000 If you do enough of those, and again, it's going to be the AI is going to play to the meta.
01:33:23.000 It's going to find all the most successful, whatever that topic is, and everybody's doing that.
01:33:28.000 You go, ah, those are successful.
01:33:29.000 I'll try it too.
01:33:30.000 But you're entering into the meta instead of playing against the meta in the hopes that what you do is going to go viral because you already have 10 million followers.
01:33:38.000 You will beat everyone else if you have a good idea.
01:33:41.000 No, everyone's going to do the exact same thing.
01:33:44.000 They're going to open up Claude and they're going to say, scan the top YouTube channels and tell me what they're doing.
01:33:50.000 And it's going to say, There's an emerging trend around body camera footage.
01:33:54.000 This is actually happening right now.
01:33:55.000 And so, what are we seeing?
01:33:57.000 Tons of channels are now racing to try and create body cam channels.
01:34:00.000 The only problem is there's already a bunch with millions of followers that are winning every single time.
01:34:05.000 And when a small channel finds a new body camera footage video, the big channel takes it, uploads it, and gets a million views, and no one watches the small channel.
01:34:13.000 And then, when people say, I don't like watching body camera anymore, all that happens is the big channels who already have the airwaves.
01:34:22.000 Open up, Claude.
01:34:23.000 The point is, if every single person is asking Claude the same question and Claude is giving the same answers, the only edge that exists is already having the audience.
01:34:35.000 Well, that's the rich get richer argument, and it's true, but there's other arguments that also play, which is counterculture.
01:34:40.000 Like young people, they see the old rich guy that just keeps pumping it out, and they're like, it's just there's the better.
01:34:46.000 I don't think they're the third time.
01:34:47.000 Like, you're right, man.
01:34:49.000 And you get these like punk uprisings.
01:34:51.000 Let me say for the third time the person with a million followers creates a new channel.
01:34:55.000 Tells the AI, and the AI says counterculture is winning.
01:34:58.000 Make me a counterculture video.
01:34:59.000 Uploads it to their new channel, posts it on the communities tab for all their big channels, gets a million views, and gets a million subscribers.
01:35:05.000 And maybe the other guy should post it on his own network, and we should have a human rights commission about giving you a right to your own network.
01:35:11.000 Get the government involved to shut people down.
01:35:13.000 It's like free speech.
01:35:14.000 You have your network.
01:35:14.000 It's like free speech.
01:35:15.000 No one can.
01:35:16.000 I mean, you'd like to have a based network that you could control and own that no one can take from or no one can destroy.
01:35:23.000 That would be cool because you're right.
01:35:24.000 People are going to strip data and repost it constantly.
01:35:27.000 The point is.
01:35:28.000 The skill requirement and training to understand how YouTube works.
01:35:32.000 Mr. Beast made a post.
01:35:33.000 He said, If I lost all of my subscribers right now, I could get 80 million subs in a year based on what I know about how YouTube works.
01:35:41.000 Anyone could do it right now if they wanted to.
01:35:44.000 That information he has is gone.
01:35:48.000 Mr. Beast's proprietary information is no longer relevant to the question.
01:35:52.000 Because every single person can now go on any of the AIs and say, Tell me all of the secrets of how the algorithm works.
01:35:59.000 And I go, Okay.
01:36:01.000 Here you go.
01:36:04.000 This is like a love song.
01:36:06.000 I'm an accelerationist when it comes to open sourcing.
01:36:09.000 I mean, okay, world.
01:36:10.000 So again, the body cam footage, as you're saying before, okay.
01:36:15.000 At some step along the way, somebody goes, you know what?
01:36:18.000 I'm going to try body cam footage.
01:36:20.000 And it works for them.
01:36:21.000 And then the AI picks up on that.
01:36:23.000 And then if you have 10 million followers, you instantly go higher.
01:36:28.000 But there still had to be the dude who said, you know what?
01:36:30.000 I'm going to take a chance on this.
01:36:31.000 And I'm going to go and try body cam footage.
01:36:34.000 But see, here's the thing.
01:36:36.000 But hear me out.
01:36:37.000 Under the model that you're talking about, at some point, you hit the saturation point, and then nobody does anything.
01:36:43.000 Innovative or new, or has a novel idea that could be eventually that body cam footage that now goes viral.
01:36:51.000 The AI will just predict this.
01:36:53.000 Facebook has known when it can predict it, but can it actually create a new trend by generating a uniquely novel idea?
01:37:04.000 Yep, it can.
01:37:05.000 Shit's so mind-worthy.
01:37:05.000 Yes.
01:37:06.000 It's true.
01:37:06.000 Absolutely.
01:37:07.000 You're right.
01:37:07.000 The answer is yes.
01:37:09.000 That's the crazy.
01:37:09.000 Facebook knows when you're going to poop.
01:37:11.000 You know how they do this?
01:37:12.000 It's not a joke.
01:37:13.000 And it's been for 10 years.
01:37:15.000 Because they have a billion users and they have all of your phone data, they have found a correlation between the amount of movement you make in the early hours of the morning and then when you stop moving just after.
01:37:27.000 So it starts with this.
01:37:28.000 They know you're in the bathroom.
01:37:29.000 They watched you go to Hardee's and eat food and then they watched you go to Starbucks.
01:37:33.000 An hour later, you stopped walking.
01:37:36.000 And the AI said, we can accurately predict what behaviors precipitate pooping.
01:37:44.000 They can absolutely, the AI will look at.
01:37:46.000 What everyone is doing online, and say the next big thing that's going to pop off will be body camera footage easily.
01:37:52.000 And everyone will start pumping out videos, and a guy will make a really good video, but he's got 5,000 subs, so we'll get 300 views.
01:38:01.000 And then the guy with 10 million will take his video, remake it with AI, literally just take his video, load into Higgsfield, and say, put my face on it, and then upload it.
01:38:10.000 Transformative.
01:38:11.000 He wins.
01:38:12.000 It's over.
01:38:14.000 Like when I tell people, I cannot impress upon them what is happening in AI.
01:38:18.000 To explain what we've been able to do and what we've seen with AI already, it is.
01:38:25.000 I can't give the experience of what it was like to edit a documentary by hand and then explain how it took me 10 minutes to tell it, make documentary and done.
01:38:33.000 Yeah.
01:38:34.000 Yeah.
01:38:34.000 If you've ever like vibe coded just a basic website, your heart breaks for every web developer in this country.
01:38:40.000 I used to code HTML and flash websites.
01:38:44.000 Yep.
01:38:45.000 And now I can literally just click, I can literally type in, make a website, make it look fun.
01:38:49.000 Done.
01:38:50.000 I purposely.
01:38:50.000 I know.
01:38:51.000 Adobe After Effects was like eliminated in a blink of an eye.
01:38:55.000 I'm so happy Adobe's dying, by the way.
01:38:57.000 Like, Adobe's the worst company ever.
01:38:58.000 They're managing their manager.
01:39:00.000 I've used Adobe since 1993.
01:39:02.000 I use Adobe every day.
01:39:04.000 It's like my job, but yeah, it's disgusting.
01:39:06.000 The ES cartel is cool.
01:39:07.000 I think PewDiePie said that he created an AI that goes through his emails for him.
01:39:11.000 Yeah, Patreon.
01:39:12.000 And it's just like because he can't read it all and there's too much.
01:39:15.000 Yeah.
01:39:17.000 It's going to be like a feudalist, it's going to be like a class system.
01:39:20.000 Now, here's the thing.
01:39:20.000 Yeah.
01:39:21.000 Well, that's a lot of fun, though.
01:39:22.000 You will be able to succeed.
01:39:23.000 There are ways to do it.
01:39:25.000 It's going to be the social engineers.
01:39:27.000 Can you accurately predict what humans do and to what scale?
01:39:30.000 The simple thing I will say is all wealth, everywhere, always, is based upon your ability to predict what humans will do at greater and greater scales.
01:39:39.000 So, the guy who made DoorDash, for instance, a billionaire, he was able to predict the response to what he was doing.
01:39:46.000 Now, a bunch of people tried similar things, and there are other apps that do this thing.
01:39:48.000 But it's basically like, hey, I can make delivery easier, and I can network all of these restaurants.
01:39:53.000 Humans will do a thing.
01:39:55.000 So, there are degrees by which you can predict, and this will predict your wealth.
01:40:01.000 If you know what words will result in what actions from another person, most people have a general idea that if you call someone a slur, they'll get angry.
01:40:11.000 That's level one.
01:40:12.000 How do you say something that makes a person hand money to you?
01:40:16.000 Most people don't know this.
01:40:17.000 So, they get jobs because the job is where the guy who knows how to get the money says, You do a thing and I'll give you the money.
01:40:24.000 And they go, Okay.
01:40:25.000 The only way they know how to get someone to hand money to them is asking someone.
01:40:29.000 Tell me to do something and I'll do it.
01:40:31.000 I always try to explain to people the structure of success in business is the man in front of me is holding a $100 bill.
01:40:38.000 I need to convince him without lying to hand me that $100 bill in whatever way.
01:40:44.000 So there are rules, there are laws.
01:40:46.000 You can't defraud, right?
01:40:47.000 You can't snatch it.
01:40:49.000 But if you say, if you get a $100 bill, you'll be happy, and someone gets convinced by that, you just made $100.
01:40:55.000 But most people think the only way to make money is a job.
01:41:00.000 It is to get a paycheck from a payroll company through a payroll company or something like this.
01:41:03.000 The people who know how to transfer, how to predict human behaviors and what to say are going to be wealthy.
01:41:10.000 You guys talked about feudalism a little bit ago.
01:41:12.000 And I know we've talked about techno communism as one potential outcome of this revolution or techno feudalism, which I like a lot better because feudalism really was the king, this guy with the most powerful military, was like, These two dukes won't stop fighting.
01:41:26.000 They keep feuding.
01:41:27.000 We need some way to stop the feud.
01:41:29.000 Let's build a new system where now they serve under me.
01:41:31.000 I protect both of them.
01:41:32.000 And ensure that I will take care of all the feuds.
01:41:35.000 So, in a feudal, a new techno feudalism, you'd have the AI be the king.
01:41:38.000 The AI would be deciding, stopping the feuds between people, either by bribing, or killing.
01:41:44.000 It could be brutal.
01:41:45.000 It doesn't have to be.
01:41:46.000 You know what's going to happen?
01:41:48.000 They're going to offer you the choice.
01:41:49.000 You're going to get into a civil suit, and they're going to say, if you want to go through the human courts, the standard procedure is your constitutional right, and the first hearing will be in a month.
01:41:57.000 AI will handle it in one hour.
01:41:59.000 What do you say?
01:42:00.000 And AI will be like, there's a 98% outcome.
01:42:00.000 Yeah.
01:42:03.000 I've been in lawsuits, I've got to tell you.
01:42:06.000 It sounds appealing to be like, you know what?
01:42:07.000 Just get it over with.
01:42:08.000 All I think about those zero cost, no court costs.
01:42:10.000 Like, actually stopping a gang from fighting another gang.
01:42:13.000 Then what do you send in the drones with machine guns?
01:42:15.000 I don't know.
01:42:16.000 We were driving to the studio and we're in the Tesla.
01:42:20.000 It's driving itself.
01:42:21.000 Ian's just sitting there staring like it's driving itself.
01:42:23.000 And then we were merging and another Tesla was in front of us and it slipped like within an inch of it.
01:42:27.000 It was so awesome.
01:42:29.000 Like, two dolphins swimming next to each other, dude.
01:42:31.000 And we were wondering, could it be that Tesla, like, do Teslas communicate with each other?
01:42:35.000 I'm sure they do.
01:42:35.000 After that, I'm sure.
01:42:36.000 Yeah, I mean, they must.
01:42:37.000 And so they can easily navigate.
01:42:39.000 Now, imagine.
01:42:40.000 I got to be honest, I love this.
01:42:42.000 Imagine a world where every car is self driving and there's no traffic because every car is communicating with every other car.
01:42:51.000 Streetlights.
01:42:52.000 They all can stop and start at the same time.
01:42:54.000 Slow down ahead of time.
01:42:55.000 No streetlights.
01:42:56.000 They know that there's no cars at every point.
01:42:57.000 All just straight shots.
01:42:59.000 And like the highway is packed and you're about to merge in.
01:43:03.000 Before you even get to the highway, the car drops one mile an hour, creating a space for your car and you just slide right in without stopping at all.
01:43:11.000 Zero traffic forever.
01:43:12.000 You know, I got to be honest, I really want that to happen.
01:43:14.000 I'm like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I know.
01:43:14.000 Yeah.
01:43:17.000 I'm going to spend a lot of time in traffic today.
01:43:18.000 My car 10 years ago was more advanced than my car is now because I'm like purposely, when it comes to vehicles, I'm like, when it comes to like any personal technology, I'm like a full Luddite.
01:43:27.000 And then when it comes to stuff for my actual work or job, I'm like going as hard as I can with like the newest technology.
01:43:32.000 Like, I use this when I'm here, but I primarily use a flip phone for like 90% of my time.
01:43:37.000 Is that your dumb phone?
01:43:38.000 Dumb down.
01:43:38.000 Yeah.
01:43:39.000 I dumb down.
01:43:40.000 My car, it's like roll up windows.
01:43:41.000 Like, everywhere that I can.
01:43:43.000 What kind of cardio?
01:43:44.000 It's like an old Nissan.
01:43:46.000 Okay.
01:43:46.000 You can buy them at the lowest trim package.
01:43:48.000 So it has manual transmission.
01:43:50.000 After dumbing down your phone, do you feel smarter?
01:43:53.000 I don't think I feel smarter.
01:43:54.000 I can think more clearly and I feel more creative again.
01:43:56.000 Like, I'm starting to make like TikToks and stuff.
01:43:58.000 I used to not be able to do that because I literally could not think of like a clear, concise enough thought to have an idea and put it together.
01:44:05.000 Sounds like you're reshoring your intellectualism.
01:44:08.000 It's just less noise.
01:44:08.000 Just like we're trying to do this.
01:44:09.000 It's a scale of reshoring.
01:44:10.000 My world's just quieter.
01:44:11.000 That's all it is.
01:44:11.000 You know what I mean?
01:44:12.000 I gotta, I gotta, maybe you can settle something for me.
01:44:14.000 I was, I got into this topic on my Sunday show and I was reacting to this documentary that's just come out on ABC Australia.
01:44:24.000 And one of the, Experiments they did in this documentary.
01:44:26.000 They took a phone and it was like a burner phone.
01:44:29.000 It was a blanked phone.
01:44:31.000 And they allegedly said that they pretended that they were like a 13 or 14 year old boy to see and then signed up for Instagram and whatever social media they were looking at.
01:44:42.000 They're really nondescript about all that.
01:44:45.000 But that within like 23 minutes, I think it was, that suddenly that 14 year old boy is getting like manosphere content funneled to him from the nebulous, nefarious, AI or the algorithm, the algorithm, the algorithm, the algorithm.
01:45:01.000 That's everything is blamed on a freaking algorithm.
01:45:04.000 Nothing.
01:45:04.000 Blame for what though?
01:45:05.000 What are they blaming it for?
01:45:06.000 They're blaming it on, well, they just said it was out there.
01:45:09.000 They think that the big tech companies are funneling manosphere content, which of course they banned my stream, so it's like, I don't know how true that is.
01:45:18.000 What are they alleging has been done wrong?
01:45:21.000 They're saying that if you're a 13, 14 year old boy, you're being influenced negatively by this manosphere content that is being Like funnel to you through the algorithm.
01:45:33.000 They had an opinion piece, I guess?
01:45:36.000 Well, they're trying to, well, actually, they're trying to form policy based on this because what they want to do is they want to find some way to talk to big tech to say, we want you to censor this part of Twitter or whatever it is so that these guys don't get this particular influence.
01:45:50.000 It does affect policy.
01:45:51.000 It sounds like an advocacy group put on an op ed and then is lobbying the government.
01:45:55.000 Well, the experiment is this it's supposed to be a blank cell phone.
01:46:02.000 Pretend to be a 14 year old boy.
01:46:03.000 I understand all that.
01:46:04.000 I'm wondering, like, how, like, you were just saying the reason I thought about this is because it's the poop experiment.
01:46:10.000 Like, they know where you are in the house and stuff like that.
01:46:13.000 And I was thinking to myself, I'm like, well, do they know where the GPS, where that phone is?
01:46:18.000 Is it in Las Vegas or is it in, like, Lincoln, Nebraska, right?
01:46:22.000 There's a lot of variables that go into it.
01:46:24.000 Are you agreeing that it's a bad thing they're doing this?
01:46:26.000 No, no, no.
01:46:27.000 I'm just wondering, could the, let's just say, the blank phone, Be a sort of an open sort of petri dish, right?
01:46:39.000 Could it be something that's uncorrupted just by them, like, you know, I'm going to pretend that I'm a 14 year old boy doing that and having, like, say, GPS know where the thing is or the email address that they happen to use or whatever it is?
01:46:54.000 I don't think it's corrupt from the beginning, but here's what I'm saying that it's not.
01:46:58.000 You're asking me if they use location data to send you content?
01:47:01.000 Yeah.
01:47:02.000 Well, of course.
01:47:03.000 But they've done that since the phone came out.
01:47:05.000 Or perhaps it's for.
01:47:06.000 From a particular email that was, we don't know what the name of the email could have been.
01:47:13.000 I think your perception on this conveys a bit of agreement that you think it's bad they're doing it.
01:47:18.000 I think it's, well, I don't think it's necessarily bad that they're doing it.
01:47:20.000 I'm just thinking that how pure the results actually be, according to what we were just talking about.
01:47:29.000 But who cares?
01:47:30.000 I don't understand.
01:47:31.000 Who cares if you're the first one?
01:47:34.000 Who cares if you're the first one?
01:47:37.000 No, no, no, no.
01:47:40.000 Okay.
01:47:40.000 Again, you're saying, like, imagine I went to you and said they created a phone and it was sending them Christmas carols.
01:47:46.000 I'd say, okay.
01:47:48.000 And?
01:47:49.000 No, he's saying that the Australian government and the British government are using for a casus belli to ban social media.
01:47:57.000 I understand.
01:47:59.000 What I'm saying is the way you're approaching this is stemming from a defensive posture of I agree it's a bad thing they're doing this, instead of there are activists with an opinion who are giving their opinion on the negativity of the manosphere.
01:47:59.000 I understand.
01:48:15.000 It's irrelevant to the issue of technology and the algorithm itself.
01:48:20.000 You're saying, is it possible they did?
01:48:22.000 Is it possible they didn't?
01:48:23.000 None of that is relevant.
01:48:25.000 The only thing that's relevant is the word negative that they put on the story.
01:48:29.000 Because if you took the whole story and put positive, smiles on your faces.
01:48:32.000 If you change Manosphere to Christmas carols, there's nothing going on.
01:48:36.000 The only issue is they said a phone was given content that we don't like.
01:48:42.000 Well, I don't care if you don't like it.
01:48:44.000 That's it.
01:48:45.000 So, what you're basically saying is leftist activists are lobbying the government.
01:48:50.000 It's like, indeed they are.
01:48:52.000 I realized something about it.
01:48:53.000 You got to do the energy.
01:48:54.000 You got to lobby them back.
01:48:56.000 Take it down to the reductionist side of just say, you know, what's the base motive for even doing the experiment in the first place?
01:49:04.000 Well, it's not even about the experiment because you can.
01:49:08.000 If you did the exact same thing and said, we want to thank Meta because we found that these young men were getting healthy content sent to them to help improve their lives, it's just a framing device, it's an opinion.
01:49:20.000 So, yes, leftist advocates are.
01:49:23.000 Lying about stuff all the time, like when Ian said the Chinese people should be interned, you know?
01:49:26.000 Yeah, you might be missed.
01:49:27.000 I think you're the lying leftist here right now.
01:49:29.000 I never said should be.
01:49:30.000 I said maybe it looks like they should.
01:49:33.000 Indicating that here's the dangerous thing we should avoid because it looks like maybe this thing might happen, should happen, and it shouldn't, but you got to read between the lines.
01:49:40.000 I'm only saying this because I was afraid that it could come to that.
01:49:43.000 What frustrates me is say the quiet part loud and get it over with.
01:49:46.000 The right always comes to the defense instead of being offensive.
01:49:52.000 I got to say it.
01:49:53.000 And I don't mean like.
01:49:54.000 Offensive in content.
01:49:56.000 What I'm saying is, like, every time the left says bad thing happened, the right tries to argue, like, the experiment was no good.
01:50:05.000 Instead of, like, they're giving you an opinion on whether they like your content or not.
01:50:08.000 They're not telling you that Meta did anything wrong.
01:50:11.000 They've created a framing device to say that Meta did a thing wrong.
01:50:14.000 And then the reaction from the right is always to be like, that's not even really happening.
01:50:18.000 You're lying.
01:50:19.000 Instead of arguing, oh, no, Meta's doing good.
01:50:22.000 The content is healthy and helpful for young men.
01:50:24.000 Well, one of the reasons I bring this up is because.
01:50:27.000 Whether it's this experiment or it's pretty much anything that has to do with my particular niche, right?
01:50:33.000 It's all their rationale, it's always the algorithm.
01:50:37.000 And that is the fiendish, you know, big tech companies that are deliberately corrupting the minds of 13 and 14 year old boys with Andrew Tate stuff or something like that.
01:50:49.000 The word corrupting is constantly it's the algorithm, algorithm, algorithm.
01:50:53.000 And I'm like, well, the algorithm is you because you're the one that they're.
01:50:57.000 That they're catering that message for in the first place.
01:51:00.000 If they think you're going to go buy Taco Bell, you're going to get Taco Bell ads in your feed.
01:51:05.000 And so I take issue with you making that argument because what you are saying is you got fed negative content because you are a person who seeks negative content instead of saying Facebook is sending positive messages to young people.
01:51:19.000 So you're defining it in like positive versus negative then?
01:51:23.000 When they come out and say Meta is sending young boys this toxic, corrupting content.
01:51:29.000 And you go, no, the algorithm is sending you that content because of this, that, or otherwise.
01:51:33.000 You are agreeing with their premise.
01:51:35.000 The content is negative.
01:51:37.000 So, what does the average person hear?
01:51:40.000 Let's say there's a fat guy sitting on a bench who knows nothing about this.
01:51:42.000 And a leftist goes, Young men are receiving negative, corrupting content.
01:51:48.000 And then you look at the guy and say, No, they received that content because it's what they look for.
01:51:53.000 What did that guy just hear?
01:51:55.000 So they are receiving awful, corrupting content from the manosphere, which is awful, by the way.
01:51:58.000 The manosphere is terrible, but it's not for kids.
01:52:02.000 I see.
01:52:02.000 So it's agreeing.
01:52:03.000 Instead of saying the content they received was wholesome and educational and they're just mad, the guy's going to go, Really?
01:52:03.000 Yeah.
01:52:10.000 Yeah, the content was all about self improvement, exercise, being a better person.
01:52:14.000 Person and they're complaining about nothing premise of the argument and move forward coolly, dude.
01:52:18.000 You dominate.
01:52:18.000 Well, that's why the best approach that I've seen rhetorically to the Australia, specifically the Australia case, is just saying the reason and it's true.
01:52:27.000 The reason why they're trying to ban social media for was under 16 year olds is because that's the only reason why there's so many right wing under 16 year olds.
01:52:34.000 Because if it were just their information intake was completely dependent on their schools and like their life, you know, their surroundings, they were going to become liberals by default.
01:52:42.000 Social media actually allows them.
01:52:43.000 Yeah, we are, we are, we are.
01:52:44.000 I got super important.
01:52:45.000 You said something we are way over being petri dishes in the.
01:52:48.000 Future phones are going to be.
01:52:49.000 I can hand you mine and take yours, and it will log me into my phone.
01:52:54.000 Phones are going to be blank slates we can trade around.
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01:54:23.000 Spicy Pork Skin says, Christ is Lord.
01:54:25.000 Blessed are the peacemakers.
01:54:26.000 Amen.
01:54:27.000 You're here.
01:54:28.000 So true.
01:54:29.000 Sight Sound C says it's chemical warfare, dude.
01:54:31.000 Play the Slayer song for Philip Bounty.
01:54:35.000 Archangel says just got my America 250 No Red Coats board.
01:54:39.000 I ended up getting number one of the limited edition gold boards, and it looks absolutely sick.
01:54:44.000 Y'all knocked it out of the park.
01:54:45.000 Well worth the wait.
01:54:46.000 Let's go.
01:54:47.000 Post a picture.
01:54:48.000 Tag Ian.
01:54:49.000 Send it to Ian.
01:54:50.000 We're working on a comic about Ian the Red Coat betraying the revolution.
01:54:56.000 And we actually have the treatments for the first and second one.
01:54:58.000 The first one's actually like, should be almost done.
01:55:00.000 So, we're going to sell those on the site.
01:55:02.000 You can buy the comic book.
01:55:04.000 And it's like Eid off of Benedict Arnold.
01:55:06.000 Yeah, I'm bringing back the red.
01:55:07.000 Well, like, the goal is we're not going to strawman the position of Ian's betrayal.
01:55:13.000 We're steel manning the position.
01:55:15.000 He explained, like, the position of Ian as he betrays the revolutionaries is to make a lot of the points that the loyalists had against the revolution because there were many.
01:55:23.000 Not that I agree with them.
01:55:25.000 Benedict Arnold, revisionism.
01:55:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:55:27.000 I'm on your team.
01:55:29.000 Basically, like, actually, Canada's awesome.
01:55:30.000 Shout out, Sarah.
01:55:32.000 The British crown is defending our trade vessels.
01:55:35.000 And asking that we pay our share of this security, and you are demanding instead to cut it off, we'll be left with nothing.
01:55:41.000 So, having Ian actually, you know, and then also there's a gag from the show where it's like, you always made fun of me and said my ideas were stupid.
01:55:50.000 Well, who's stupid now?
01:55:51.000 And then, you know, we shoot him.
01:55:53.000 But then, episode two is called Ian's Revenge because he doesn't die.
01:55:57.000 So, spoiler, but the only reason I'm spoiling that is because in the first comic, like, we already said there was going to be a second one and it's going to be a series.
01:56:06.000 So, those boards took a long time to get to.
01:56:08.000 Will this be a popular comic?
01:56:11.000 What am I missing?
01:56:12.000 These boards were all American boys.
01:56:13.000 I just wanted to know.
01:56:16.000 These skateboards were all American made, so it took a long time.
01:56:19.000 So I apologize to everybody for the wait, but congratulations on the number one.
01:56:21.000 They were $10, they're gold, and they absolutely did.
01:56:24.000 That's a good, that's art.
01:56:26.000 Yeah, so we've got to work on the next boards, of course.
01:56:28.000 The problem is we had three factories go out of business.
01:56:31.000 Americans are struggling.
01:56:33.000 And so we were trying to do one release per month of limited edition boards.
01:56:38.000 We're going to do a small batch, 300, 200, 300 boards every month, because they sell out like in an hour or two.
01:56:44.000 And not everybody can get them.
01:56:46.000 And then this one took three, four months.
01:56:49.000 I mean, look, you ordered three months ago, four months ago almost, because the factories all went out of business.
01:56:54.000 They just, Americans' factories are struggling.
01:56:56.000 Everything's going to China.
01:56:57.000 These are the boards you had hanging on the wall.
01:56:59.000 Some of them.
01:57:00.000 Some of them over there.
01:57:01.000 Yeah.
01:57:01.000 Very beautiful.
01:57:02.000 Yep.
01:57:02.000 So we lost our third factory because American factories are closing.
01:57:05.000 And everyone keeps saying, just do China.
01:57:07.000 You'll get your boards overnight and they'll cost you half the price.
01:57:09.000 Don't do China.
01:57:10.000 Nope.
01:57:11.000 What's the point?
01:57:11.000 We won't do it.
01:57:12.000 I'm like, making money off sacrificing everything around me defies the point of even doing this show.
01:57:18.000 If I ever got to the point where I'd be like, I'll just do China boards, I'd stop doing this show.
01:57:21.000 What's the point?
01:57:23.000 I just go make money, I don't know, selling subscriptions to like hair salons.
01:57:26.000 Just a steel man, George Alexopoulos.
01:57:28.000 I feel like that's what he's going through right now.
01:57:30.000 He's like, I'm not going to use Chinese boards.
01:57:31.000 Like, he's not touching AI.
01:57:32.000 He refused to.
01:57:33.000 Goddamn NAFTA.
01:57:34.000 Yeah, but this is different because we've talked about this on the show.
01:57:36.000 It's one thing if a skateboard factory emerged and they said, we don't need the employees anymore.
01:57:41.000 We can press 100 boards an hour.
01:57:43.000 We'd go with them.
01:57:44.000 We'd be like, it's unfortunate all these factories went out of business, but we need a reliable partner.
01:57:48.000 America, let's go.
01:57:51.000 If he was like, I'm not going to use C Dance, I'd say, okay, I dance.
01:57:55.000 All right.
01:57:57.000 Major says the Democrats have massive ties with big tech.
01:57:59.000 Did they throw the last election with Kamala Harris knowing she was right around the corner, leaving the Republicans with the tab?
01:58:04.000 I tweeted this Kamala Harris is going to win 2028.
01:58:10.000 No, he thinks it's not going to happen, but he wants her to run.
01:58:13.000 I don't want it to happen.
01:58:14.000 I think Kamala is a shoe in, actually.
01:58:16.000 Yeah, Kamala.
01:58:17.000 I'm a big Kamala guy.
01:58:18.000 I think that right now, when you're looking at early voting data showing how bad Republicans are doing and the fact that Republicans are bifurcated, it looks like we're entering into an election cycle where there's two Republican parties and one Democrat party with a tumor.
01:58:31.000 But the DSA is going to vote for whatever chaos they can get.
01:58:37.000 So, with the breakaway faction, the Republicans, if they lose three, four points, how do you stop a Kamala Harris from winning?
01:58:43.000 Like, listen, look, you got 74 million votes?
01:58:46.000 I think that we'll see a resurgence of that unity post primary, whatever the 2028 field shapes up to be, because this happens all the time.
01:58:54.000 You see that graph on Twitter, which is like the left ideologues all conjoined in one circle, and then the right is all very disoriented and spread out.
01:59:04.000 The right left dichotomy doesn't really work in America because what it is, it's the collective of chuds against whatever the left is doing.
01:59:12.000 And so we have that as a fallback.
01:59:15.000 So, you know, come 2028, Lord willing, if things turn around here and there, I'm really hoping that Kamala does win the primary.
01:59:23.000 Who do you think will be the Republican candidate?
01:59:26.000 I don't know.
01:59:26.000 Vance or Rubio?
01:59:28.000 That's the same.
01:59:28.000 I'm thinking Rubio.
01:59:30.000 Hippie Tree Hugger says Tim, I get it.
01:59:30.000 Yeah.
01:59:32.000 There's other software other than Adobe.
01:59:36.000 The subscription model is the problem.
01:59:37.000 Moreover, Adobe got flack when they used their software to steal art to train their AI.
01:59:42.000 So, if Adobe goes under, I will celebrate it.
01:59:44.000 So, let me just say Adobe used to cost like $600 for the license, but they couldn't stop piracy.
01:59:52.000 So, they switched to subscription models and you had to be online to use it periodically.
01:59:57.000 And now the program itself is free.
02:00:00.000 I don't care if you like or don't like Adobe, by all means, celebrate it.
02:00:02.000 The point is a $95 billion market cap has no product.
02:00:08.000 What do you think will happen to the stock market?
02:00:10.000 You got money in stocks, 401ks, SP, kaboom.
02:00:15.000 They still have a product, kaboom.
02:00:17.000 NASDAQ is the open source product, so they will still sell subscriptions, but their mobile app is going to get sold.
02:00:21.000 Yeah, what's going to keep Adobe going, and it really is Enterprise Suite, the connectivity that comes with their enterprise and their cloud services.
02:00:29.000 That's what they have going for them.
02:00:31.000 You're right about it.
02:00:32.000 The Artcraft Suite has all of that too.
02:00:34.000 What is Artcraft?
02:00:35.000 Is this the.
02:00:36.000 So someone cloned the entire Enterprise Suite.
02:00:38.000 That's so awesome.
02:00:39.000 Identically, one for one.
02:00:40.000 Yeah.
02:00:41.000 It's free.
02:00:41.000 So much of these companies are just going to be relying on like legacy usage.
02:00:45.000 It's honestly the only reason why I don't use DaVinci.
02:00:47.000 It's because I grew up using Adobe.
02:00:48.000 There's going to be a problem with publicly traded companies when they are looking at high costs and their competitors are going down.
02:00:54.000 Oh, they're definitely going to lose in the long run.
02:00:56.000 I agree.
02:00:56.000 So, what's going on?
02:00:57.000 This is not going to be a long standing thing where the companies slowly fade away because of generational gaps in knowledge.
02:01:04.000 It's going to be Q1.
02:01:05.000 They're going, our rivals are showing earnings of 7% and we're down five.
02:01:09.000 Where can we cut costs?
02:01:10.000 And they're going to say, well, our rival is they've all switched to the Artcraft open source suite.
02:01:15.000 And that's saving them $200,000 per year.
02:01:17.000 And they're going to say, we have to do that.
02:01:19.000 And the shareholders are going to have meetings, and you're going to get the phone calls where they say, why are you guys still paying $50,000 a month for the Adobe suite for your company?
02:01:28.000 The Artcraft suite is free.
02:01:29.000 And they're going to say, we're looking into it.
02:01:32.000 That pressure is going to come rapidly.
02:01:34.000 So you've been wrapped up in the industry a lot longer than I have.
02:01:37.000 I'm curious, what do you think Adobe's move to get out of this bundled system?
02:01:41.000 There's nothing.
02:01:41.000 There's nothing they can do.
02:01:42.000 So they're going away in the next couple of months.
02:01:44.000 Well, they could convert into AI server space.
02:01:47.000 Like, I mean, they could really.
02:01:48.000 Double down or triple quadrant shoe companies.
02:01:51.000 They don't have the server space to justify a $95 billion market cap.
02:01:54.000 It's not an agile move.
02:01:56.000 They become, like they were saying about the British, permanent AI renters.
02:01:56.000 Not as agile.
02:02:00.000 Software is done.
02:02:02.000 Sick.
02:02:04.000 Listen, I don't even need Adobe.
02:02:05.000 When I'm editing videos, Claude edits the video by code.
02:02:10.000 It literally just puts timestamps and writes the code for editing the video.
02:02:12.000 It doesn't even use a program.
02:02:15.000 I have Filmcraft and I use it for some touch ups, like if I want to put an end card in.
02:02:19.000 I don't even have to do that.
02:02:20.000 I can literally take my video, put it into Claude, and say, add this end card.
02:02:25.000 And it'll go, boop, spit it right out.
02:02:28.000 So, $200 a month and every software.
02:02:31.000 So, what you do is you create a workspace.
02:02:34.000 This is why I like doing Claude.
02:02:35.000 I'll create a workspace, pin it, and give it a job.
02:02:39.000 Then I will refine the job it's doing.
02:02:41.000 So, I've got one instance.
02:02:44.000 I don't call them agents because it's one program with various instances.
02:02:48.000 And I'll say, make a video like this.
02:02:51.000 It makes it.
02:02:52.000 It sucks.
02:02:53.000 Do it this way.
02:02:54.000 It sucks.
02:02:54.000 Do it this way.
02:02:55.000 I really like that one.
02:02:56.000 Make another one.
02:02:57.000 Perfect.
02:02:57.000 You nailed it.
02:02:59.000 Copy.
02:03:00.000 And then I say, everything you just did that was perfect, write it down and save it.
02:03:05.000 I then make that instance specifically for that one task.
02:03:08.000 If you then go to create a new chat and say, do the same thing, it will not do it.
02:03:14.000 You have to give it some training.
02:03:15.000 And then once it has it, I say, write this down as a skill, save it, and then I can port it from Claude to GPT.
02:03:23.000 You can have it right in ClaudeMD if you want to get it out of the chat and get a PERMA.
02:03:27.000 We got to go to the uncensored portion of the show right now.
02:03:30.000 So smash that like button.
02:03:31.000 Share the show with all your friends.
02:03:33.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
02:03:35.000 Rollo, do you want to shout anything out?
02:03:37.000 Just my rational mail engine, actually, since we're on a topic of AI right now.
02:03:41.000 I've got my own LLM that was built from the ground up.
02:03:45.000 It's not a shell sitting on top of ChatGPT or Gemini or Grok or anything like that.
02:03:49.000 We actually have a team of a couple of devs, and we have our own server that it's on right now as well.
02:03:56.000 But it is the sort of the go to engine for anything that is sort of manosphere related, anything that's sort of in my niche, and the beauty of the thing.
02:04:07.000 Of it is originally for guys to sort of come in and sort of give questions and get sort of advice or like better understanding.
02:04:15.000 It's fundamentally based on all of my work from the time I started doing things in 2002.
02:04:21.000 And so all my work from my So Suave days on my forum days, my blogs, all six of my books, and soon to be the seventh book.
02:04:29.000 And pretty much every transcript, everything I've ever done on video is all sort of creates the brain of the whole engine.
02:04:37.000 And this is actually how I sort of started learning a little bit more about AI and understanding how things are built.
02:04:43.000 But it's not just about me, it's not just a clone.
02:04:46.000 I didn't want it to be like a clone because we have some of the girls that are on the show and they have they're OnlyFans girls, but they have AI clones of themselves now.
02:04:54.000 So that if you wanted to talk to some girl at 2 45 in the morning and she's actually asleep, you think she's actually talking to you and awake right then and there, but they've created AI clones.
02:05:04.000 This is not an AI clone of me, it's an engine that Everybody is sort of contributing to, and the more we use it, the better it sort of grows and it creates a you know, sort of this aggregate of you know, my knowledge and red pill knowledge and master stuff.
02:05:19.000 And then the great thing about it is that it's not just about me, it's about everybody else that's sort of contributing to it as well.
02:05:26.000 We've taken the guardrails completely out of it because we kind of had to, because Apple Store is not going to promote us anyways.
02:05:32.000 So you're not going to get these mamby pamby kind of woke-see answers, it's going to tell you what you need to know.
02:05:37.000 And a lot of people are trying to sort of figure out how to do this at this.
02:05:41.000 Point, we're already having the big engines refer back to the Rational Mail engine right now.
02:05:46.000 So, Grok, ChatGPT, the rest of the biggies are referring back to the Rational Mail engine for verifications, using it as a resource right now, which is the best thing I've ever done at this point.
02:05:59.000 And it's a lot of fun, man.
02:06:00.000 It's a lot of fun to mess around with this and see what the ultimate potential of it is.
02:06:05.000 Where do people get it?
02:06:06.000 It's therationalmailengine.com.
02:06:08.000 Very easy.
02:06:09.000 So, you can find it online, you can interact with it online.
02:06:12.000 And I kept the subscription deliberately cheap enough so that average people can enjoy it.
02:06:17.000 It's $16 a month, which I believe is like $2 cheaper than ChatGPT at its base.
02:06:23.000 So it's not meant to be some sort of super big cash grab.
02:06:27.000 But the great part of it is it's snowballing into something that is becoming great as a result of everybody collectively putting into it.
02:06:36.000 And that's really where I wanted it to go anyway.
02:06:38.000 So it's nice to see it sort of blossom into something positive.
02:06:45.000 That's my only plug.
02:06:46.000 I mean, you can get my books at Amazon.com.
02:06:47.000 Thanks.
02:06:49.000 Follow me at Ian Crossland on the internet at Ian Crossland.
02:06:52.000 YouTube, X, and Instagram is where I'm at right now.
02:06:54.000 Literally, I'm here right now, but you can find me on the internet there right now.
02:06:58.000 Catch you later.
02:06:59.000 Yeah, David Carlson on Twitter.
02:07:01.000 I have no empire of AI or books to sell, but my parting shot would be like vote red, vote for Patriots, do your duty, save your homeland.
02:07:10.000 I know it's bleak sometimes, but do your part.
02:07:14.000 Uh, exit Instagram at Real Tape Brown.
02:07:16.000 I'm following me on Instagram.
02:07:17.000 Check out my reels.
02:07:18.000 I'm doing, I'm gonna try and do one a day now.
02:07:20.000 I'm back in the reels game, so come check me out, Carter.
02:07:23.000 We're officially in DC.
02:07:25.000 Um, Rollo, thanks for coming out.
02:07:26.000 You can't see me because I'm behind the speaker, but yeah, you can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere at Carter Banks Official and uh, on Instagram and check out the uh, label at Trash House Records on YouTube.
02:07:36.000 Tim.
02:07:37.000 We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 10 seconds.
02:07:41.000 We'll see you there.
02:07:41.000 Don't miss it.
02:08:36.000 Because we're gonna Phase where you can create information faster than you can consume it.
02:08:40.000 Collectively, as humans, we can make information faster than we can learn it.
02:08:43.000 Yep.
02:08:44.000 Well, it's.
02:08:45.000 We are in this.
02:08:46.000 So the singularity is happening.
02:08:48.000 We've passed the event horizon.
02:08:50.000 There's an AI development graph that shows a hockey stick.
02:08:54.000 We're in the hockey stick.
02:08:55.000 Like, I'm making video games and I don't have time to play them.
02:08:57.000 I can make them faster than I can play them.
02:09:00.000 And the ability to develop them is improving faster than you can code them.
02:09:04.000 I think Fable 5.5 is coming out tomorrow or the next.
02:09:04.000 It's wow.
02:09:07.000 We made this video game and already all the work we did is obsolete.
02:09:09.000 I know.
02:09:10.000 Every three weeks, I'm like, good God, I'm waiting for it.
02:09:12.000 Oh, I'm gonna say it again.
02:09:14.000 Like a month ago, I've got a program open with a subscription, and it's like, Tell the title of the video.
02:09:21.000 It's like six steps to make a video to automatically edit and render.
02:09:24.000 And I'm like, man, this is like, it's fast, but I don't know if I wanna do it.
02:09:27.000 Now it's literally, you just go into Claude and say, Make a video, it goes working on it.
02:09:30.000 I've noticed it's not only about creating stuff, it's about upgrading your workflow of creating stuff.
02:09:36.000 Like that's part of the creation now, is if you're not upgrading your work process, you're falling behind because the new, like, it's that metaphor of like, If you take a spaceship to Alpha Centauri halfway through your voyage, another spaceship flies past you because the tech is advanced faster than your old one.
02:09:51.000 And so I can't rely on Opus and like I'm clawed.
02:09:54.000 Let me show you this.
02:09:55.000 I got to use Gemini now because Argon's out.
02:09:58.000 Take a look at this.
02:09:59.000 Here's the reality, my friends.
02:10:01.000 Old people vote more than young people.
02:10:04.000 And that's a problem.
02:10:05.000 It is.
02:10:06.000 It means that our system of governance, our tax base, everything will always prioritize the old over the young.
02:10:12.000 And as the saying goes, a society grows great.
02:10:15.000 When old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit beneath.
02:10:18.000 That's great.
02:10:19.000 But as I already mentioned, we're facing the end of it.
02:10:22.000 So, for anybody who's watched any of my videos, you know, I don't do motion graphics in real time.
02:10:25.000 I pull up an article and then I talk.
02:10:27.000 In this instance, I had an article on screen that I was not reading.
02:10:32.000 I cited it and then I started talking.
02:10:35.000 Kellen took this portion to make a clip for X, put it in Claude, and said, add motion graphics.
02:10:42.000 That's it.
02:10:42.000 He said, it took about 10 minutes for this to render.
02:10:45.000 And it added all of these motion graphics to the video, and it properly placed them in the box where the video was, leaving me visible.
02:10:52.000 This is a, what do they call this?
02:10:55.000 Look at this.
02:10:55.000 It even grabbed a quote from Matt Walsh.
02:10:57.000 Elon Musk, if you're listening for Grokbot, this is the function.
02:11:00.000 You go live on X, and in real time, it will render graphics for you as you're talking.
02:11:04.000 This is nuts.
02:11:06.000 So when I record my morning video, I'm just pulling up articles and talking.
02:11:11.000 I could literally just drop it in Claude tomorrow and say, render.
02:11:15.000 And then just add motion graphics to it.
02:11:19.000 So, my 4 p.m. video today on the Timcast channel, I recorded three minutes, loaded it into Claude, and said, Make motion graphics and citations for this.
02:11:28.000 And now I have this mini doc cold open.
02:11:31.000 And then it goes to me, like, Hey guys, join Timcast.com.
02:11:35.000 I got another one for you, another application here.
02:11:38.000 We do, I mean, Mike Sartana and I do a lot of debate shows these days.
02:11:42.000 And there's the popularity of, like, say, the Jubilee format where it's like the 10 on one or the 20 on one.
02:11:48.000 And in a lot of these shows, you'll have a lot of people who are kind of coming at whoever is the one in the hot seat.
02:11:54.000 They'll quote like numbers.
02:11:55.000 They'll say, Did you know that 45% of X, Y, and Z is this?
02:11:59.000 And the guy who is the owner of Origin Studios in Las Vegas, you guys know him, Taius, he's working on an app right now that will listen live in real time so that it can fact check, especially numbers.
02:12:12.000 If it's listening to the conversation, and if somebody pops off with something that seems like it's factual, it will automatically go and find the fact.
02:12:20.000 Find whether you know, verify whether it's real or it's not, and then if you choose, you know, give it to the host and say if you want to read this, you can.
02:12:27.000 The problem with that, they will give it to you, like, and you don't, it's like having another person write the problem is all the fact checking websites are lying, bro.
02:12:34.000 So, like, yeah, so depending on what it comes to.
02:12:36.000 We have a hard stop now that we're in DC, so we're going to pull in Brian, and we're typically going to be like usually just jumping to callers right away.
02:12:42.000 We should get an AI and set them up right there, set it up right there, and have it be part of the show.
02:12:45.000 That's how we do 2026.
02:12:46.000 You need a bot.
02:12:47.000 Yeah.
02:12:48.000 Maybe, how about for the election party, we do that?
02:12:50.000 Well, it'll just be lit.
02:12:50.000 Yeah.
02:12:51.000 We can talk to it.
02:12:52.000 You know what we'll do?
02:12:53.000 I'll go on to GPT and I'll be like, make a persona of a Gen Z woman who can, you know, and then we'll put a tablet in a chair and have it talk on the show.
02:13:01.000 Yeah.
02:13:02.000 Hey, Brian, Brian, what's going on?
02:13:02.000 It won't work.
02:13:04.000 We got a call.
02:13:04.000 You're on the show.
02:13:06.000 Can you hear me okay?
02:13:07.000 Yeah.
02:13:08.000 Yes.
02:13:09.000 All right, great.
02:13:09.000 What up?
02:13:10.000 Thanks for having me on again, frequent caller, occasional listener.
02:13:16.000 They covered a story last night, Senator Slotkin.
02:13:21.000 And given the very real possibility of a Democratic victory in the coming midterms, and with Senator Slotkin's threat to bring down the might and fury of the federal government on those who would dare to work with the Trump administration, is it time for young conservatives to lie low and maybe fight another day or to double down and get into the fight?
02:13:42.000 Well, double down.
02:13:44.000 Like, just think about the question.
02:13:45.000 Should conservatives accept being driven into the gulag or resist?
02:13:49.000 I think double down.
02:13:50.000 I think the apparatus in DC has matured a lot since the first term.
02:13:53.000 And the first term, if these sorts of threats are being made, you might maybe think about taking that advice.
02:13:59.000 I think now Nick Solheim over at American Moment, which is kind of the premier staffing organization in DC, he did a whole video statement basically saying, Yeah, we're going to go to the mat for you if they try to jam you up.
02:14:13.000 Like, go do your job and we'll take care of you.
02:14:13.000 Don't worry.
02:14:17.000 And this is being communicated from basically every staffing organization on the right right now, as far as I can tell.
02:14:24.000 So, yeah, I think young conservatives will be okay.
02:14:30.000 It will suck.
02:14:30.000 I do think, worst case scenario, they're going to be looking at legal fees.
02:14:35.000 But I don't think that should dissuade people.
02:14:37.000 I think the majority of people that are getting into politics, if potentially getting subpoenaed is enough for you to not want to get into politics, then you shouldn't be in it in the first place.
02:14:46.000 You need to be willing to fight.
02:14:50.000 Not to get too dramatic with it, but people sign up for the military every day.
02:14:54.000 And if you really do view getting into politics as service, then worrying about a subpoena is not going to affect you.
02:15:00.000 But if you're getting into it because you just think it's a job, like any other job, then yeah, it's okay.
02:15:04.000 Go do something else.
02:15:05.000 And I'm not saying that's what you're saying.
02:15:06.000 I'm just saying that's the mentality of a lot of young people.
02:15:07.000 They just want to get in because there's cocktail parties and I can LARP like I'm in West Wing.
02:15:12.000 No, it actually is kind of the arena.
02:15:14.000 The DC is kind of the arena.
02:15:16.000 And I don't know, maybe it's a good thing because conservatives.
02:15:20.000 A lot of people in DC really do just treat it like cocktail parties all day.
02:15:24.000 So maybe a shakeup actually might be good for people.
02:15:26.000 Who knows?
02:15:27.000 I would also just encourage the current administration, with many young people currently serving, to go after the left for these sorts of comments.
02:15:36.000 This is like political intimidation.
02:15:39.000 It is patently political intimidation.
02:15:42.000 You are dissuading young conservatives from voicing their First Amendment right as a sitting senator.
02:15:49.000 That's like disgraceful.
02:15:50.000 Yeah.
02:15:52.000 You know, Slotkin is a CIA, like, intelligence community crony.
02:15:57.000 She's like, if Jack Smith, right, from the Trump Council prosecutor, if he had ran for Senate, these people should be getting a taste of their own medicine, which is like, you're breaking the law.
02:16:11.000 She's also one of the senators who told the army to refuse Trump's orders.
02:16:15.000 Like, that alone is enough.
02:16:16.000 The FBI is already probing her and the number of others for that.
02:16:20.000 What was her quote?
02:16:21.000 Did she say illegal order?
02:16:22.000 She's been pretty adamant about it.
02:16:23.000 Refusing illegal orders.
02:16:24.000 So the first thing that happened was a bunch of billboards went up saying Trump's order to assist ICE is illegal.
02:16:24.000 Well, of course she did.
02:16:30.000 Then they tweedledee tweedledummed, disobey illegal orders.
02:16:34.000 You can't have one guy say, Trump's orders are illegal, and then I go disobey illegal orders and say, we didn't just tell people to defy the president.
02:16:40.000 She's running the same playbook with the comment she made the other day.
02:16:42.000 She was like, oh, I didn't mean young conservatives.
02:16:45.000 I was talking about the corrupt officials in the administration.
02:16:47.000 See, I'm just talking about the corrupt people.
02:16:49.000 It's like, no, we all heard the words you said.
02:16:51.000 You said, I want to dissuade young people from joining conservative politics because I want to throw them in jail.
02:16:59.000 And she's doing the same like legalese.
02:17:01.000 It's.
02:17:02.000 I see slop basically.
02:17:04.000 This is how they think.
02:17:05.000 It's actually cloak and daggers.
02:17:05.000 It's legalese.
02:17:08.000 Well, and we got to reiterate David's point.
02:17:10.000 I mean, it's great.
02:17:11.000 I mean, seeing Solheim's statement was great and everything, but we really do need to see the Republicans go on offense here and also communicate that.
02:17:18.000 If Slotkin's going to communicate, you know, and I respect a lot of people in the admin.
02:17:21.000 They're like, well, behind the scenes, we're really like pushing.
02:17:23.000 This is one of the things you should be making it public.
02:17:25.000 You should put the fear of God into people like Slotkin.
02:17:28.000 The idea of even uttering something that crazy, like they should tremble even thinking about it.
02:17:33.000 The fact that they could just say it so flippantly.
02:17:34.000 On a daytime television show is absolutely pathetic.
02:17:37.000 I think as of yesterday as well, and I'll leave it at this the only people I've really seen talk about this, other than not right wing pundits and organizations, but elected officials talking about this, it was like Brandon Gill and Mike Lee.
02:17:51.000 And there's been a lot of silence.
02:17:53.000 And I'm sure there's others that have since come out and said something, but we really should have been responded to with a chorus.
02:17:59.000 I mean, if MTG had said something about this, directed at young Democrat staffers in 2022, she would be censured.
02:18:06.000 For like the fifth time, and she'd be like deported.
02:18:08.000 Yeah, she'd be like deported.
02:18:11.000 So we.
02:18:11.000 The Trump admin should have put out like a form that says, come apply, we're going to go to bat for you, and here's a slush fund for legal.
02:18:17.000 Like that would have solved a lot of problems.
02:18:19.000 Because I do actually think, because young people that are considering working for the Trump administration are spending four hours on Twitter every day, they saw that.
02:18:27.000 Like this wasn't a lot of times that would like the stuff we fight over on Twitter, no one outside of Twitter seeing.
02:18:34.000 So it really doesn't have that much relevance, to be completely honest.
02:18:36.000 I don't want to get into that.
02:18:39.000 This is something that actually has a lot of salience.
02:18:41.000 Like, there are 18 year olds, 19 year olds, 20 year olds in college right now that are considering interning this summer and their next summer.
02:18:48.000 And they saw that comment and they said, I don't, is this worth it?
02:18:51.000 I mean, are they going to have my back if I go in?
02:18:53.000 So I was talking to a 21 year old who was like, Yeah, I saw that clip and I started talking to my dad about like employees insurance.
02:18:59.000 Yeah.
02:18:59.000 Yeah.
02:19:00.000 Which is the smart thing to do.
02:19:02.000 It's true.
02:19:02.000 Yeah.
02:19:03.000 It's just, Ryan, do you want to add anything to that or shout anything out?
02:19:07.000 Uh, no, don't really have anything to add, just uh, appreciate the opportunity to break in the new studio.
02:19:12.000 First caller, that's right, great work, dude.
02:19:17.000 Fireball, we'd have it fixed.
02:19:20.000 So, thanks, happy thanks for calling in, brother.
02:19:22.000 Thanks, Brian.
02:19:23.000 That's gonna be interesting too, because I was talking to Poso, and uh, Poso's down here periodically as well.
02:19:28.000 Thinking about him yesterday because uh, they work out of the same building, and I was like, brother, you can just walk in like, literally, there's the door come you know, this building, and uh, all the big media companies are here, so it's gonna be pretty epic.
02:19:39.000 We should just jam light on.
02:19:40.000 The halls.
02:19:42.000 We need some high power.
02:19:43.000 People don't realize when Posa comes to the studio, he plays the bass for like three hours straight.
02:19:46.000 He does.
02:19:46.000 He comes in at like three and then just plays the bass.
02:19:49.000 He reads it like a language, like he knows Mandarin.
02:19:51.000 All right, Kai, what is up?
02:19:53.000 Welcome to the show.
02:19:56.000 Hello, Tim.
02:19:57.000 Straight to the point, should the Democrats or DSA gain power, how strong do you think the restrictions on AI development will be put in place to fight the rich and save jobs?
02:20:09.000 It would be.
02:20:10.000 No, Matt Peace finished.
02:20:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:20:12.000 I thought that was the question.
02:20:13.000 I believe when they gain power, the amount of restrictions that they will put in place will allow China to win the AI race.
02:20:20.000 When the DSA gets in power, they will nationalize it.
02:20:24.000 They'll say the issue is that we need to be in control because it's dangerous.
02:20:27.000 Take control of it and use it against you.
02:20:31.000 Oh, shit.
02:20:32.000 Well, it's time to start downloading all the models.
02:20:37.000 Definitely do that anyway, but don't live in fear.
02:20:40.000 I mean, we got a bright world ahead of us that we can craft, regardless of who thinks they're in power.
02:20:46.000 Like, the real power is the electricity.
02:20:47.000 So use it to the best of your ability and keep building stuff that you can manipulate the populace with in a healthy, righteous manner.
02:20:57.000 Yeah, because I use AI for coding and I'm moving towards content creation without Blender.
02:21:03.000 So it does speed up the process when it comes to coding and stuff like that.
02:21:07.000 But I guess it's straight to the point.
02:21:11.000 That's all I have.
02:21:12.000 Can I do a quick sign out?
02:21:14.000 Sure.
02:21:14.000 I mean, that was easy.
02:21:16.000 Second call.
02:21:17.000 Also, I've been watching your argument with G'A5.
02:21:21.000 Is there any chance that you can get him on to the show?
02:21:23.000 He can come on the show whenever he wants.
02:21:26.000 Yeah, but there's also another content creator named Neon from Clownfish TV.
02:21:30.000 He's discussing about the AI content creation as well.
02:21:33.000 I think George is freaking out because he wasn't around during the leap from 2D to 3D.
02:21:38.000 And Neon is a Gen X. He's been through all this.
02:21:41.000 Oh, interesting.
02:21:42.000 Well, here's the thing about George it's like, bro, you're obviously seething.
02:21:48.000 Like, when you come out, like, AI is bad, and you're a poser, it's like, the only thing I hear is, my job is gone.
02:21:55.000 You unfollowed me.
02:21:57.000 Yeah, it's an overly emotional reaction to his job evaporating.
02:22:01.000 Like, you need to be pragmatic.
02:22:04.000 You need to recognize this is not a dig against you.
02:22:09.000 You need to, if you cannot internally, in your mind, ask yourself, why am I mad?
02:22:17.000 If you cannot be honest to yourself, you will not succeed.
02:22:21.000 So, George saying AI is slop, it's fake, it's gay, blah, blah, blah.
02:22:27.000 None of this serves, George.
02:22:29.000 Screaming at the rock for not moving will not move the rock.
02:22:34.000 I mean, you can come on the show whenever you want.
02:22:37.000 And I think AI for content creation is a good state because I'm not sure if you've been following Twitter for the past few weeks, but there's a thing called Malfoy, and people have been going off about it.
02:22:47.000 It's Draco Malfoy as a girl dating Harry Potter.
02:22:49.000 Oh my God.
02:22:50.000 It's over.
02:22:51.000 Half of the riot is posting color fetishes about Europe, and they're like, oh, these immigrants are going to rape our daughters.
02:22:59.000 And then the other half are posting cranny porn.
02:23:01.000 I'm like, it's over.
02:23:02.000 It's over.
02:23:03.000 It's true.
02:23:04.000 All right.
02:23:05.000 That's why Tate's here.
02:23:06.000 God.
02:23:06.000 You have a hard time at 10 30.
02:23:08.000 Everyone, thank you for your question.
02:23:10.000 And AI is the future.
02:23:11.000 It's not here.
02:23:12.000 It's not going anywhere.
02:23:13.000 It's here to stay.
02:23:14.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:23:15.000 If you use the word Floyd or Malfoyd, I judge you.
02:23:15.000 Thanks, dude.
02:23:18.000 I'm sorry.
02:23:19.000 I judge you.
02:23:21.000 I'll drop the Floyd.
02:23:22.000 All right.
02:23:22.000 We got Mellow Maverick.
02:23:24.000 What up, Mellow?
02:23:25.000 Hello, Mellow Maverick.
02:23:27.000 Thank you for taking my call.
02:23:27.000 Evening, gentlemen.
02:23:29.000 Thank you for calling.
02:23:32.000 Given the mindset of the left to. React to the slightest utterance being perceived as violence and then them reacting with violence.
02:23:40.000 Are we regressing to the days of the Wild West where we need to remain armed for our own protection?
02:23:46.000 And will it progress to shootouts with the Illinois Democrat saying we have guns too?
02:23:56.000 It seems like the need for a CCW is a necessity instead of being optional if things keep on escalating.
02:24:02.000 Well, all the red states got constitutional carry, so they don't need nothing.
02:24:07.000 Move to Nevada.
02:24:09.000 I mean, if you live in a blue state and you register and get a CCW, they're going to show up to your house and take your gun anyway.
02:24:15.000 Yeah.
02:24:17.000 I wish Phil was here because he might be brave enough to provide an alternative solution for this problem.
02:24:23.000 Techno feudalism?
02:24:24.000 What were you going to say?
02:24:25.000 Yeah.
02:24:25.000 Like the robots just come and kill people with the heavy weapons.
02:24:28.000 Yeah.
02:24:31.000 This is like the upside of the private police that people are going to be purchasing more as inner city communities continue to rot and be rotten.
02:24:42.000 Yeah, we're getting South Africa.
02:24:46.000 We're getting Eric Prince to restore order in Haiti and then Detroit.
02:24:50.000 You want to win a gang street war, civil war, you need to control the airwaves.
02:24:55.000 Think about the evolution of military.
02:24:56.000 It's not just a gun now, it's the ability to communicate with who has the gun.
02:25:00.000 I think a lot of it is just the gun.
02:25:02.000 I don't think so because if you know that guy's a friend or a phone, you're just going to shoot him.
02:25:05.000 And if it's your ally and you didn't know that because you couldn't call him, fire happens all the time.
02:25:08.000 Yeah.
02:25:08.000 And it happens more when there's no communication lines.
02:25:10.000 So if you can knock out communication lines.
02:25:12.000 Now they're going to wear metagogglasses.
02:25:15.000 And when they're going to see people who are in blue and people who are in red and people who are green and or red.
02:25:19.000 The first professional criminal organization that gets a contract with Andrew and those little helmets that they got, that's how you know it's over.
02:25:27.000 Dude, did you see him on Rogan?
02:25:28.000 The networked.
02:25:29.000 Yeah, there's.
02:25:30.000 You see what he sees and you can see it.
02:25:31.000 It's Dove.
02:25:32.000 It's Dove as hell.
02:25:32.000 As soon as the enemy gets one of those, though, you're like, It'll be the Boston Dynamic Dogs, but it'll be Pitbull version.
02:25:37.000 That's how it's known as Game of Thrones.
02:25:39.000 You see the robot dogs with flamethrowers on them?
02:25:41.000 Not yet.
02:25:41.000 I did.
02:25:42.000 I saw the video.
02:25:42.000 Flamethrowers on them?
02:25:44.000 That's a lightweight fuel, flamethrower fuel.
02:25:44.000 Okay.
02:25:47.000 You could carry that around a little easier than a bunch of bullets, I guess.
02:25:50.000 And it runs out slower.
02:25:52.000 No, the liquid fuel is less effective.
02:25:56.000 You're probably better off with like 10 rounds.
02:25:58.000 For like blowing into a room and catching a house on fire.
02:26:00.000 For purposes.
02:26:00.000 Would you rather be shot or set on fire?
02:26:03.000 Shot.
02:26:03.000 Yeah, shot.
02:26:04.000 Is it like.
02:26:04.000 I guess it depends on where shot.
02:26:05.000 Can't undo the damage?
02:26:06.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:26:07.000 Would you rather a guy point a flamethrower at you or a handgun?
02:26:07.000 Shot.
02:26:12.000 Oh, God.
02:26:13.000 Depends on the distance.
02:26:14.000 Yep.
02:26:15.000 If I'm 100 feet away, flamethrower.
02:26:18.000 The further I am, the less I can get.
02:26:19.000 Yeah, but if we're like talking 15 feet, just shoot me.
02:26:23.000 One bullet.
02:26:24.000 Just in general.
02:26:25.000 If you're 15 feet for me to shoot, just in general.
02:26:27.000 Put me out of my misery.
02:26:29.000 No, no, no flamethrower.
02:26:30.000 That's terrifying.
02:26:31.000 What was this question?
02:26:33.000 It's a.
02:26:33.000 What was this question?
02:26:35.000 What was this question?
02:26:37.000 Black people drones for warfare?
02:26:39.000 I think so.
02:26:40.000 Yeah.
02:26:40.000 Will we need to be armed?
02:26:41.000 I mean, no, it was just a drone.
02:26:42.000 Rips versus bloods drone.
02:26:44.000 Asymmetric warfare.
02:26:45.000 Yeah, dude.
02:26:45.000 I don't know.
02:26:46.000 Like, I'm not really into the technocratic overstate, but at some point, I start to become a little sympathetic to it.
02:26:53.000 Like, I prefer chaos and good over evil and law, usually.
02:26:57.000 Dispensationally, you're a conservative.
02:26:59.000 You got to get a waterfoil board to go on the ocean and just pump your way away from that.
02:27:03.000 Just pump out into the distance.
02:27:04.000 Hashtag pump.
02:27:06.000 Pump your way out of nature.
02:27:07.000 So true.
02:27:08.000 I've been saying this.
02:27:09.000 Pump your way to danger.
02:27:10.000 It's your core is you don't know how bad you need your core strength until you have to run from bullets for 20 minutes straight.
02:27:10.000 Work out now, dude.
02:27:16.000 Dude, Luke Rdkowski does this like armed training thing, and at the end, they just unleash these dudes with paintball guns on you or whatever, and you have to run, and you're like, Yeah, but you're a wizard.
02:27:25.000 Yeah, but you're a wizard.
02:27:26.000 You know what he was doing where the guy walks in holding a phone, and then the guy with the gun puts the gun down, and then he pulls the gun and shoots him.
02:27:31.000 What I realized about five minutes in is as soon as the shit hits the fan, you're just your core starts to cramp up, and you're like, Dude, I can't even run, and there's bullets flying, and I can't even.
02:27:40.000 Fucking run.
02:27:41.000 It might just be because you're out of shape.
02:27:42.000 It's exactly why.
02:27:43.000 Get that core.
02:27:45.000 I mean, if you want to protect the future, get your core ready.
02:27:47.000 Yeah.
02:27:48.000 Well, prepare your cores, America.
02:27:50.000 I think this is a hot take among this crowd.
02:27:52.000 I'm not sure.
02:27:52.000 I've watched some of the shows recently.
02:27:55.000 This is why I'm like generally pro flock.
02:27:59.000 This is why I generally am enjoying the flock camera stories.
02:28:04.000 Yeah.
02:28:04.000 The idea that Democrats would have access to the panopticon to track all of us everywhere we go is a good thing.
02:28:09.000 Well, it's a terrifying prospect, but it has to be used in some regard.
02:28:13.000 Look.
02:28:14.000 If you want to be tracked by the IC, you're going to be tracked by the IC.
02:28:18.000 And I know that that's like a classic argument in favor of the overreach.
02:28:22.000 But when I'm reading stories of like a sheriff's deputy in Augusta, Georgia, who's using his wife's flock access to track license plates of illegal immigrant drivers and then making the call to arrest them, I'm like generally.
02:28:37.000 That's pretty fun.
02:28:38.000 I'm like, that's based.
02:28:39.000 We should just use it, but only for foreigners.
02:28:41.000 Yeah, we should use flock, but only when I want to.
02:28:44.000 Yeah.
02:28:44.000 All right.
02:28:45.000 Would you keep going down that hill of the slippery slope of like, would you expose your thoughts to that?
02:28:50.000 Well, I think.
02:28:51.000 Are you going to plug your brain into the Neuralink?
02:28:53.000 I think that all slopes are very slippery, and every argument you make will go that way.
02:28:53.000 No.
02:28:57.000 But that is why, at the end of the day, what any society is reliant upon is high trust and civic virtue.
02:29:05.000 I think you'll plug your brain in.
02:29:07.000 So there needs to be a point where we say enough.
02:29:10.000 How old are you?
02:29:11.000 24.
02:29:12.000 You're plugging your brain in in two seconds, bro.
02:29:14.000 You know why?
02:29:15.000 Absolutely.
02:29:16.000 You think I'm a.
02:29:18.000 You're walking around with your CIA tracking device.
02:29:20.000 So true.
02:29:21.000 And.
02:29:22.000 By the time it becomes ubiquitous that everyone's got a neural band, and that when you go to Starbucks and you say, Let me get, I'll do the Cortado, they're going to say, Okay, and you're just, you know, pay with your neural band.
02:29:36.000 You go, I don't use one.
02:29:38.000 And they're going to go, Then you can't buy it.
02:29:40.000 Or the line's going to be like, Oh, and there's like 70 people waiting in line with their phone.
02:29:43.000 They're going to say, We no longer accept credit cards.
02:29:46.000 It's a neural band only location.
02:29:47.000 They only accept cough pay.
02:29:48.000 Because I was carrying around a phone.
02:29:51.000 You know, I was carrying around a phone before I was red pilled.
02:29:54.000 Cough.
02:29:54.000 You know, maybe that has something to do with it.
02:29:56.000 I still refuse to go through.
02:29:58.000 We only use AnalPort.
02:30:00.000 Well, it's like Neuralink, but you shut up your ass.
02:30:00.000 What's that?
02:30:02.000 You guys use WorksPay here?
02:30:05.000 Or do you use PoopPay?
02:30:06.000 No, it's going to be like, you're going to say, yeah, let me get the Cortado.
02:30:10.000 And she's going to be like, okay, that'll be $17.93 because it's the future.
02:30:15.000 And then you're going to be like, is Visa okay?
02:30:18.000 No, we haven't taken Visa in 10 years.
02:30:20.000 And you're going to be like, MasterCard?
02:30:22.000 No, we haven't used MasterCard in 17 years.
02:30:25.000 And then everyone's going to be wearing NeuralBands like, use your NeuralPay, bro.
02:30:28.000 And then you're going to go, what about Discover?
02:30:29.000 They go, oh, I'm sorry, we don't take Discover.
02:30:32.000 You're like ordering a head, so you won't even have to say anything.
02:30:34.000 You'll walk, it'll know you want the Cortada.
02:30:36.000 As soon as you get there, they'll hand it to you and you'll walk away.
02:30:39.000 Or you'll be standing at the table.
02:30:40.000 It's already that way.
02:30:40.000 And it'll already know.
02:30:41.000 As I'm walking to Starbucks, guys, you guys live in the past.
02:30:44.000 You're a bunch of old people.
02:30:45.000 I want this.
02:30:46.000 Do you not understand this?
02:30:48.000 Like, Ian, you're always like, you know what it's going to be like?
02:30:50.000 And then you say the thing that happened 10 years ago.
02:30:52.000 The Starbucks app.
02:30:53.000 I'm at the casino, I'm at the airport, wherever I am.
02:30:55.000 I'm walking to my gate, I open the app, and I go, I want this drink.
02:30:58.000 I walk up, grab my drink, and keep walking.
02:31:00.000 Yeah, but you got to The touching part is what I don't.
02:31:03.000 I go, open up the app and give me the frappuccino.
02:31:07.000 It's getting very close.
02:31:08.000 It's still relying on you.
02:31:09.000 Right.
02:31:09.000 You're going to put the neural band on.
02:31:10.000 Dude, when it's thought, the speed of thought, it won't be.
02:31:12.000 It'll be the speed of the interface between your brain and the computer.
02:31:15.000 It's going to be a headset.
02:31:15.000 Whatever you want, you're going to show up and they're going to have a beagle there.
02:31:17.000 And then it's like, oh, that's what I wanted.
02:31:19.000 That's what roll over.
02:31:20.000 Yeah, it will know what you want before you even want it.
02:31:23.000 It'll be like, yeah, you'll show up.
02:31:25.000 There's like an 86 probability that you're going to want the cortado.
02:31:28.000 You'll get the rush hour for it.
02:31:29.000 No, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to hear, you're going to put on the neural band.
02:31:33.000 It's going to have read right.
02:31:34.000 And you're going to think, you're going to be thinking in your head, Neural Band, activate Starbucks, Cortado.
02:31:39.000 And then it's going to go, and then you're going to hear a voice, and you're going to hear a voice in your head saying, Just to confirm, we are submitting an order for a Cortado at Starbucks.
02:31:47.000 That's going to be $9.93.
02:31:50.000 Would you like to deduct it from your checking account?
02:31:51.000 And then you're going to think, Do it.
02:31:53.000 You're going to say nothing.
02:31:54.000 And then you're going to walk up, and they're going to have it for you.
02:31:56.000 When you first band up, it's going to be like, Allow permissions.
02:31:56.000 And you'll be happy.
02:31:59.000 Can I allow permissions?
02:32:00.000 Allow permissions.
02:32:00.000 And you'll be like, Yes, yes, yes.
02:32:02.000 Bypass permissions.
02:32:02.000 Fine.
02:32:04.000 And then they have you.
02:32:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:32:06.000 And then you go, ah, If you don't want to bypass permissions, just say yes a trillion times.
02:32:12.000 That's like some minority report shit.
02:32:14.000 They're going to find out whether you're a criminal before you even commit the crime.
02:32:18.000 You're going to have the band on.
02:32:19.000 You're going to bypass all the permissions.
02:32:21.000 And then you're just going to be like, you're going to scream.
02:32:23.000 And then you're going to be like, I think X and Tesla are the greatest companies ever.
02:32:27.000 SpaceX should invest in right now.
02:32:28.000 I'm going to invest.
02:32:29.000 Yes.
02:32:30.000 And then you just move all your money into SpaceX.
02:32:31.000 I'm going to go to Goy Bucks and order my Goy Juice.
02:32:34.000 Oh, when you buy it.
02:32:35.000 All right, all right.
02:32:36.000 Milo Maverick, do you want to add anything or shout anything out?
02:32:39.000 Friendly fire is not friendly.
02:32:41.000 Indeed.
02:32:42.000 That's a good point.
02:32:42.000 So true.
02:32:43.000 I think I like that.
02:32:44.000 Anything else you want to shout out?
02:32:46.000 Wise words.
02:32:47.000 You too.
02:32:48.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:32:49.000 You know, you're talking about that Neuralink and stuff like that.
02:32:51.000 Or you don't want to plug your brain into the cybernet because you're going to play.
02:32:57.000 You can't even do it to him.
02:32:58.000 He already has.
02:32:59.000 You already have.
02:33:00.000 How long have you been doing video, uploading video since Occupy Wall Street, right?
02:33:06.000 15 years.
02:33:06.000 I watched it.
02:33:07.000 I mean, 10 years.
02:33:08.000 Yeah, so what I did with the engine is it knows everything I've written from day one all the way to today, to today's show.
02:33:15.000 I'm like, how could it take that and build?
02:33:19.000 A model or build another you.
02:33:21.000 Neuralink is not going to be an invasive surgery.
02:33:24.000 It's going to be a headband you buy from Best Buy.
02:33:26.000 It's going to be a white band and it's going to have like three metal nodes on it and you're just going to put it on.
02:33:31.000 Well, when you put it that way, I mean.
02:33:33.000 Everyone's going to do it and it's going to have read write technology.
02:33:35.000 It'll be slow if you're.
02:33:36.000 EEGs already exist.
02:33:37.000 True.
02:33:38.000 You can buy a toy electroencephalogram, wire it to a drone.
02:33:43.000 I did this 15 years ago.
02:33:46.000 Me and my buddies got an EEG off the internet, it was able to track two brainwaves.
02:33:52.000 So, it would give you a screen showing a red line and a blue line.
02:33:56.000 You'd put the headband on and think.
02:33:58.000 And you were trying to figure out how to control the red and the blue lines.
02:34:02.000 Me and my buddy put it on and we could not do it.
02:34:05.000 The blue line would go up and then down.
02:34:06.000 The red line would go up and down.
02:34:07.000 We were like, this is crazy.
02:34:08.000 Like, I have no idea what to do, what to think to make it change.
02:34:13.000 His sister put it on and she goes, You want the blue one to go up?
02:34:16.000 Blue went up.
02:34:17.000 And we went, Holy shh.
02:34:18.000 And then she was like, Should I make the red go up with it?
02:34:20.000 Red went up.
02:34:21.000 And we were like, Make them both go down.
02:34:23.000 They both went down.
02:34:23.000 Make them make one go up, one go down.
02:34:25.000 She did.
02:34:25.000 That's weird when you talk about who's gonna be the rich people of the future.
02:34:27.000 It's the people that can interface with that.
02:34:29.000 Right.
02:34:29.000 So, the point I was making is you can connect that to a drone and with those two brainwaves control the drone going up.
02:34:36.000 So, what we planned was the drone will always descend.
02:34:41.000 Always.
02:34:42.000 Default descend.
02:34:45.000 If you make the blue go up, the drone will increase power slightly greater than the power decrease.
02:34:51.000 So, you'll make the drone able to go up.
02:34:54.000 As long as you're focusing on the blue going up.
02:34:57.000 The reason why we have it always go down is because we want to preserve the blue down command for left and right and the red for, so pitch, roll, and yaw.
02:35:07.000 So we're like, with two parameters, how do we control a drone completely?
02:35:13.000 The drone always descends.
02:35:15.000 So when blue goes up, as long as you're focused on the command of blue go up, the drone will rise.
02:35:20.000 If you blank your mind out, it'll start going down.
02:35:23.000 If you command blue down, it will control like forward.
02:35:28.000 And then, so we didn't do back because we want to go up, forward, and roll.
02:35:33.000 Uh, so, uh,