Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 30, 2026


HIJACK! Terror Attack Thwarted, Pilot ATTACKED Over Saudi Arabia | Timcast IRL

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00:02:35.000 A terror attack thwarted.
00:02:37.000 At least that's what everyone thinks right now.
00:02:40.000 We have been getting conflicting reports all day.
00:02:42.000 Initial reporting was that a pilot attacked a co pilot.
00:02:46.000 I guess they're both just pilots, so who's the co pilot?
00:02:48.000 Then Fox News said no, the co pilot was attacked or attacked the pilot.
00:02:54.000 Two pilots.
00:02:55.000 One guy tried diving the plane down, a fight breaks out.
00:02:59.000 There's a stabbing.
00:03:00.000 Apparently, the guy who got stabbed kicks the latch, busts the door open, allowing people to get in and regain control of this flight.
00:03:07.000 It was en route.
00:03:09.000 To Tel Aviv landing in Saudi Arabia.
00:03:11.000 The story is absolutely crazy with new information breaking all day and conspiracy theories.
00:03:17.000 So, we're going to have to talk about this.
00:03:18.000 This is the big, big news.
00:03:20.000 Of course, we have a bunch of other little bitty news.
00:03:23.000 There's this funny thing happening with America.gov, that new AI, and a lot of people are like, it's broken, it's going crazy.
00:03:29.000 They found an Easter egg, a Minecraft reference, and people think it's going crazy.
00:03:33.000 We'll talk about that.
00:03:35.000 And a bunch of smaller stories.
00:03:36.000 But of course, the midterms are a month away.
00:03:40.000 We got big questions about what is going to be happening.
00:03:44.000 So, my friends, smash the like button, share the show, and all that good stuff.
00:03:48.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Micah Beckwith.
00:03:52.000 What's up, Tim?
00:03:53.000 I'm doing great.
00:03:53.000 How are you doing?
00:03:54.000 How about you?
00:03:55.000 This is awesome.
00:03:55.000 I'm good, man.
00:03:56.000 You guys, he's taking me back to the days I loved in college, man.
00:04:02.000 You guys have this place decked out.
00:04:04.000 I'm like, he shows up, there's guitars.
00:04:06.000 I was going to say, where's like, Jesus, this is awesome.
00:04:08.000 Yeah, let's go.
00:04:08.000 The skate park and everything.
00:04:09.000 All right.
00:04:10.000 Well, so who are you?
00:04:11.000 What do you do?
00:04:12.000 Yeah.
00:04:12.000 Well, I'm the lieutenant governor of the state of Indiana.
00:04:14.000 I'm just kind of a normal guy.
00:04:15.000 I mean, I got into politics because I hated seeing kind of what was happening in America.
00:04:20.000 I got a pastoral background, music background, but I was working with students, saw government policies and public schools, just taking kids down a path that I just didn't, I knew wasn't true.
00:04:30.000 And objective truth is under attack.
00:04:32.000 And I said, well, listen, I'm going to jump in the fight.
00:04:34.000 We're going to make sure that we stand for what's right and true and not care who knows it.
00:04:39.000 So I come out of politics politically.
00:04:41.000 Considering you're such a man of good moral standing, will you apologize for stealing my football team?
00:04:46.000 No, absolutely not.
00:04:47.000 Because Indiana's better than Illinois.
00:04:49.000 So do better, Illinois.
00:04:52.000 No, I actually, I said this before the show.
00:04:53.000 I was like, my hat's off to Indiana.
00:04:56.000 They did everything they could for a great football team.
00:04:58.000 It's doing really well.
00:04:59.000 And Illinois and Chicago dropped the ball, and it's their fault.
00:05:02.000 So I say, congratulations.
00:05:03.000 You got a great team now.
00:05:04.000 Thank you.
00:05:05.000 Well, and you know what?
00:05:06.000 Once we're done with that, then we're going to go down to Cincinnati, take the Bengals and bring them over.
00:05:09.000 And then once we're done with that, we're going to rename Lake Michigan to Lake Indiana.
00:05:12.000 And then our reign will be complete.
00:05:15.000 But in all seriousness, I think this shows that Indiana's priorities are better than Illinois's.
00:05:21.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:22.000 Look, a bunch of my buddies here, we're all from Chicago.
00:05:26.000 We're all pissed off.
00:05:26.000 And we're like, Indiana's taking the cake.
00:05:29.000 Totally.
00:05:29.000 They're doing better.
00:05:30.000 Well, listen, Illinois spent $2 billion on services for illegal immigrants over the last year.
00:05:38.000 Think about that for a second.
00:05:40.000 We offered the Chicago Bears a $2 billion stadium.
00:05:43.000 There it is right there.
00:05:44.000 So if you wouldn't be spending all your money on people that shouldn't be here, And clamp down on immigration like Indiana has done, you'd be fine.
00:05:51.000 You'd have money to get the Bears a stadium and continue to invest in your city.
00:05:55.000 But because you're stupid and you do all this leftist progressive policies, then, you know, okay, Indiana will be your huckleberry.
00:06:01.000 We'll take that.
00:06:02.000 But this is a bigger picture here, too.
00:06:05.000 I'm trying to explain to some of my friends, they're like, I don't understand how the state and the city could allow.
00:06:11.000 You know, it's one thing if the Bears go to Arlington Heights, it's the Chicagoland area, so we all kind of roll our eyes.
00:06:17.000 But how could the state lose the Bears?
00:06:18.000 And I said, because the voters in the state, No longer care about its traditions.
00:06:24.000 Could you imagine in 1990 if they were like, the Bears need money?
00:06:28.000 Oh, dude.
00:06:29.000 Listen.
00:06:30.000 They'd have dumped all the money in the world for the Bears.
00:06:35.000 But when demographics change, a question is asked for all the newcomers, they call them, coming to Illinois, and the politicians running for office ask a question How many of you care about the Bears?
00:06:45.000 And the newcomers say, The who?
00:06:48.000 So then when it comes to allocation for budget, what do they do?
00:06:50.000 Migrant services, like you pointed out, instead of the traditional Chicago, the Illinois team that is iconic and has the Bears that everybody knows.
00:07:00.000 So I don't want to rant too much.
00:07:02.000 We'll talk about it.
00:07:03.000 Real quick on that, can I just say last thing?
00:07:05.000 This is multiculturalism and what it does.
00:07:07.000 It destroys nations, it destroys cultures.
00:07:09.000 Because when you bring in all the other cultures of the world, you lose the culture and the heritage of what made you great to begin with.
00:07:15.000 That's why nobody cares about the Bears, because multiculturalism has pushed the culture of what made Chicago a great city and Illinois a great state.
00:07:21.000 It pushed it out.
00:07:22.000 It's really that simple.
00:07:23.000 We've used this analogy on the show quite a bit where it's like you got 100 people live in a town, they all come together to build a baseball field and they take care of it.
00:07:30.000 That you then bring in 101 Haitian migrants and I say this with all due respect for legal migrants.
00:07:37.000 They're not going to vote for what you built and what you love or what your grandfather built for you because they're just like, well, our interests are not aligned with that.
00:07:45.000 So 101 vote against you and say, we don't want to allocate money.
00:07:49.000 We want health care services for immigrants.
00:07:52.000 And then your baseball field is gone or it goes to Indiana.
00:07:54.000 We're going to talk about this.
00:07:56.000 Of course, we've got a lot more to talk about, especially with the midterms coming up and how this stuff's going to play out.
00:07:59.000 The boys are hanging out.
00:08:00.000 Yeah, what's going on, everyone?
00:08:02.000 Yeah, you guys are very fortunate to be of Illinois, like literally right now.
00:08:04.000 There, so you can just be like, I don't know, like, look what they're doing.
00:08:07.000 Hey, we do that a lot, actually.
00:08:09.000 Just go look, it's right there.
00:08:11.000 The same thing in New Hampshire, just like Massachusetts, and people are like, Yeah, you're right.
00:08:15.000 You know, my parents, you know, West Virginia's got Maryland and Virginia right there.
00:08:20.000 You know, a lot of case studies.
00:08:23.000 There's a lot of red states next to blue states, to put it simply.
00:08:26.000 People flying away.
00:08:27.000 Well, yeah, because if you're like in Arkansas, they're like, Uh oh.
00:08:32.000 Like, we got some bad cities in Arkansas.
00:08:34.000 Well, I mean, Little Rock's not doing great.
00:08:37.000 But yeah, what's up, everybody?
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00:10:49.000 You know, as I already mentioned, let's get to the news.
00:10:51.000 We got this from the BBC.
00:10:53.000 What we know about the stabbing on the Fly Dubai flight to Israel.
00:10:57.000 The quick news is that a flight from Dubai to Israel.
00:11:02.000 The pilots were fighting.
00:11:04.000 Guy gets stabbed.
00:11:05.000 One pilot kicks open the lock.
00:11:06.000 Door flies open.
00:11:07.000 Passengers go in.
00:11:08.000 There's backup pilots.
00:11:10.000 Crew members are seriously injured, stabbed.
00:11:10.000 They take over.
00:11:13.000 They divert this to Saudi Arabia.
00:11:14.000 It's believed to have been an attempted terror attack.
00:11:18.000 Some are hyping it up like it could have been a 9 11 where they were going to crash this plane and hurt a bunch of civilians.
00:11:23.000 We don't know exactly, but we do have new information.
00:11:26.000 We have names here on the stabbed pilot.
00:11:29.000 There are, of course, conspiracy theories running rampant.
00:11:32.000 But that's the quick just let's give you guys the quick updates here.
00:11:36.000 They say the stabbed pilot, identified as Indian National Captain Smith Machachahar, was taken to the hospital after the flight landed and later called a hero by the Israeli Prime Minister.
00:11:49.000 Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz has called the incident an attempted jihadist terror attack.
00:11:54.000 The BBC is yet to receive official statements from police, emergency services, or investigators regarding any motive.
00:12:00.000 This is Flight Dubai's FZ 1073, took off from Dubai International Airport in the United Arab Emirates.
00:12:08.000 En route to Ben Gurion Airport in Israel.
00:12:10.000 It was carrying 150 people.
00:12:12.000 Almost all the passengers were Israeli.
00:12:14.000 Data says that it made a rapid descent, dropping more than 17,000 feet in two minutes.
00:12:20.000 A minute later, the plane signaled an emergency code.
00:12:23.000 It diverts, starts to climb back up.
00:12:26.000 We know that there were two pilots in the back.
00:12:27.000 I think they were British, or one guy was British.
00:12:29.000 We're not entirely sure.
00:12:31.000 So there are a lot of conspiracy theories.
00:12:33.000 Some were saying they believe it may have been, they think it was an attempted false flag because, you know, hey, the internet's going to do what the internet does.
00:12:41.000 But either way, Considering where we are with the state of the Iran war, I think it's fair to point out, while I'm not saying it's a definitive correlation, reporting over the past few days has been that Iran is crumbling.
00:12:54.000 They are losing control of the Strait of Hormuz and they're being worn down.
00:12:59.000 Surprise, surprise, at their weakest, after a long drawn out war and wiping out of much of their leadership, you get this attempted terror attack.
00:13:08.000 We don't know for sure.
00:13:10.000 Maybe, maybe not.
00:13:11.000 There's been some speculation that this guy maybe was just suicidal and said, I'm going to take everybody down with me.
00:13:16.000 But either way, we're lucky that it was stopped.
00:13:20.000 And it's a crazy story.
00:13:22.000 The pilot who got stabbed kicked the lock so the door could open.
00:13:25.000 And if he did not do that, nobody was getting in that cockpit to stop this plane.
00:13:30.000 That's crazy.
00:13:31.000 Yeah.
00:13:32.000 The motivation is unclear, obviously, but we know that the perpetrator was an Omani national.
00:13:40.000 Oman, obviously, good relations with Iran.
00:13:43.000 We kind of used them as a mediator.
00:13:44.000 They mediated the first round of talks, I think, last year, actually.
00:13:47.000 And then.
00:13:48.000 They were mediating all the discussions in the lead up to the war.
00:13:52.000 So, again, it's impossible, like without any explicit, you know, like, oh, I wrote down why I'm going to do this or whatever.
00:13:58.000 It seems unlikely that it was like top down from the IRGC that just doesn't, this doesn't seem like something that they would do, especially that they would have a connection with an Omani national.
00:14:09.000 It could be, I think my gut tells me it's overlapping.
00:14:13.000 So, okay, Oman, Israel, not popular there.
00:14:17.000 So, it would make sense that that would be a motive for him, right?
00:14:19.000 There's a literal war going on between.
00:14:22.000 What many people view as even between the Muslim world and Israel, obviously.
00:14:26.000 And then additionally, he could probably just be mentally disturbed.
00:14:30.000 Well, clearly, he's mentally disturbed.
00:14:32.000 We've seen in the past pilots go haywire before and try to take the plane down or attack their co pilot.
00:14:37.000 It's not the first time it's happened.
00:14:38.000 I think it happened like there was a German that did this fairly recently.
00:14:42.000 So I think it's kind of two things probably happening here suicidal pilot or mentally disturbed, whatever you want to say here.
00:14:49.000 And then the context that he's Omani probably gives you a bit of motivation to want to take down a plane over Israeli airspace because he knows, like, okay, if anything happens to the plane, it's going to fall down and someone's going to get hurt.
00:15:00.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm not so sure about any of the stuff that I, the kind of conspiracy theories.
00:15:07.000 You know, the plane was full of Israelis.
00:15:09.000 So there is kind of the idea that the Omani guy was like, well, you know, this is my chance to hit back at Israel because there were so many Israelis on board.
00:15:20.000 Again, the pilot that actually landed the plane, I think he was an Israeli as well, right?
00:15:27.000 No, so the two backups, one was British and the other one hasn't been identified yet.
00:15:30.000 Okay, so they were backup.
00:15:32.000 Yeah, it probably wasn't an Israeli because it was Fly Dubai.
00:15:34.000 I doubt they would hire it.
00:15:35.000 So, yeah.
00:15:36.000 So they had, but it's good.
00:15:37.000 They obviously had backup pilots on the flight because it would crash without it.
00:15:44.000 But I don't see what Iran would get out of it by just taking down a commercial jet.
00:15:53.000 They don't stand to gain anything.
00:15:55.000 No, Iran doesn't.
00:15:56.000 But in terms of the conspiracy theories, if this plane crashed and killed a bunch of Israelis, I mean, the war would.
00:16:04.000 Dramatically escalate.
00:16:06.000 Well, I mean, I don't know that the Israelis would automatically say, well, you know, this was definitely something that Iran did.
00:16:14.000 If they could somehow pin it on, if there was some evidence that Iran was involved, sure.
00:16:18.000 But I'm just saying the conspiracy theorists are making the argument because they have theories for literally everything.
00:16:24.000 In terms of the war, I think the simple answer is, like you were pointing out, this guy's probably sympathetic.
00:16:30.000 Yeah, well, I mean, we've seen in the past, obviously not maybe necessarily pilots directly taking on the plane, but commercial jets getting shot down.
00:16:37.000 There's countless examples of there's a conflict going on, a faction that's sympathetic with one of the belligerents then shoots down a passenger jet.
00:16:46.000 We saw it with Ukraine and Russia, where some sympathetic there's a creature flying around here.
00:16:50.000 It's a moth.
00:16:51.000 It's called the moth.
00:16:52.000 A creature.
00:16:53.000 A creature.
00:16:53.000 A creature.
00:16:54.000 A creature.
00:16:55.000 A small beast.
00:16:56.000 Reagan.
00:16:56.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:16:58.000 It's a sort of Mossad.
00:16:59.000 I don't know what's going on here.
00:17:01.000 I mean, we saw this with the KLM.
00:17:03.000 I think it was KLM flight, and it got shot down by pro Russian, obviously had.
00:17:08.000 Nothing top down from the Russian government.
00:17:10.000 They're sympathetic with Russia.
00:17:11.000 We saw this a lot during the Rhodesian Bush War.
00:17:14.000 I think on two separate instances, rebels that were trying to abolish Rhodesia or whatever shot down commercial jets that were flying over the airspace.
00:17:25.000 But in those instances, it didn't lead to a full blown escalation.
00:17:29.000 This is a full blown escalation.
00:17:31.000 Now, if we want to talk about a true.
00:17:33.000 Somebody walks closer to this.
00:17:34.000 Here you go.
00:17:35.000 Aerial battle taking place in the studio.
00:17:37.000 We keep talking about war.
00:17:39.000 Yeah.
00:17:39.000 So.
00:17:39.000 With the moth.
00:17:40.000 So it's not uncommon for.
00:17:42.000 Sympathetic elements to sympathize with the belligerent in a current conflict.
00:17:48.000 Similar to what we're seeing now.
00:17:49.000 People sympathizing with the moth are like, poor things, you're scared.
00:17:52.000 It's like, Peter's got to die.
00:17:53.000 Emailing you guys.
00:17:54.000 It's got to die.
00:17:55.000 Some sort of Zimbabwean.
00:17:56.000 But what bugs do you sympathize with?
00:17:59.000 Because I feel like a lot of people are going to be like, a moth.
00:18:01.000 They kind of sympathize with a little bit.
00:18:03.000 Well, it's a failed butterfly.
00:18:04.000 That's exactly what it is.
00:18:05.000 If it was a fly, they'd be like, get it down.
00:18:07.000 Because butterflies are like, oh, I got the fly.
00:18:08.000 There's no butterflies here.
00:18:10.000 It's like, dude, you had one job and you couldn't do it right.
00:18:11.000 Yeah.
00:18:12.000 It'd become a butterfly.
00:18:13.000 You know what I mean?
00:18:14.000 Let's bring it back to IRGC.
00:18:14.000 Yeah, literally.
00:18:16.000 They're the moths.
00:18:18.000 They're the moths of this analogy.
00:18:20.000 Is that what I'm getting at?
00:18:21.000 And Israel's the butterflies?
00:18:22.000 Or who's, I don't know who's who.
00:18:23.000 Well, no, I'd say the IGC is more like a house fly.
00:18:27.000 And I don't mean that in terms of their scale.
00:18:28.000 I'm saying it's like people are annoyed by them.
00:18:30.000 Yes, right.
00:18:31.000 They're buzzing around, causing problems in the Middle East with trade and all that stuff.
00:18:34.000 But it doesn't mean I want to see my neighbor come out with a gun and start shooting at the fly.
00:18:39.000 You don't want to hit it with a bazooka necessarily.
00:18:41.000 With a bazooka.
00:18:42.000 Yeah.
00:18:42.000 Well, it's a figure of speech.
00:18:44.000 You don't kill a squirrel with a bazooka.
00:18:46.000 We had a member call him the other day.
00:18:48.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:18:48.000 I never heard that.
00:18:49.000 Is it for real?
00:18:49.000 What do you think is the proper caliber to shoot a squirrel?
00:18:53.000 Probably not a bazooka.
00:18:54.000 Probably not a bazooka.
00:18:55.000 Sure.
00:18:56.000 Fine, fair enough.
00:18:57.000 A great shot.
00:18:57.000 A small rifle maybe would make 17.
00:19:00.000 Super Mag.
00:19:01.000 It's a big TMR.
00:19:01.000 Turn it.
00:19:02.000 What's the biggest thing you can use?
00:19:04.000 I love gun guys because they're like, oh, probably like a 36.
00:19:06.000 You're like, oh, yeah, dude, totally.
00:19:08.000 I'm like, probably a 6.9, 6.7.
00:19:11.000 5.56 is almost a universal caliber.
00:19:15.000 That's a 4.56.
00:19:16.000 Whirl a BB gun is probably sufficient.
00:19:18.000 That was what I was saying.
00:19:19.000 You could stop on it.
00:19:20.000 It's sufficient.
00:19:22.000 You only need to shoot with that thing right back there.
00:19:24.000 A range.
00:19:25.000 That is a Union Civil War musket.
00:19:27.000 Yeah, shoot with that.
00:19:28.000 Why not?
00:19:28.000 Go with Lindy.
00:19:29.000 You are not hitting anything.
00:19:32.000 You're going to aim that and it's going to go sideways.
00:19:33.000 Well, the good thing about squirrels is they're not particularly afraid of humans.
00:19:37.000 You can get usually within 10, 15 yards where that might actually be.
00:19:40.000 Yeah, dude, just hold some peanuts in your hand and when it comes up, just kick it.
00:19:42.000 Try shooting that with the moth with that thing.
00:19:45.000 Don't kick squirrels.
00:19:46.000 Squirrels are fine.
00:19:48.000 You know what I mean?
00:19:49.000 If someone falls out of a tree with a moth.
00:19:50.000 Which is the, in this analogy, we'll bring it back.
00:19:52.000 The squirrels are Sweden in this analogy, right?
00:19:55.000 They're fine.
00:19:56.000 Stay in your lane.
00:19:57.000 Nobody ever really cares about them.
00:19:57.000 Right.
00:19:59.000 Yeah, snap together.
00:20:00.000 And, uh,.
00:20:01.000 And Ukraine would be like a cow.
00:20:05.000 It's like, why?
00:20:06.000 Ukraine has the most farmland, the most arable farmland in Europe.
00:20:09.000 There you go.
00:20:09.000 So it's this big animal.
00:20:12.000 Hey, they're tough, but it's a lot of meat and everybody wants it.
00:20:15.000 That's right.
00:20:15.000 And then the Filipinos are like puppies, where it's like they're cute, kind of charming, kind of innocent.
00:20:20.000 They're not going to hurt anybody.
00:20:21.000 Americans marry them.
00:20:22.000 I mean, but they can get a little annoying.
00:20:25.000 They might pee on your rug and then you're like, okay, you know, it's a little too much for you.
00:20:29.000 You know, that Filipino passport is a golden passport.
00:20:31.000 What was that?
00:20:32.000 Filipino?
00:20:32.000 Filipino passport.
00:20:33.000 Is it?
00:20:34.000 So I'm.
00:20:36.000 It's not literally so, like, the US is considered a golden passport because it gets you a visa on entry in all these countries.
00:20:41.000 But I learned this when I was working with a guy who was Filipino, he was Filipino American.
00:20:46.000 Because Filipinos are fishermen, they basically get a visa on entry to tons of countries because they're just laborers.
00:20:53.000 So they can show up basically anywhere.
00:20:56.000 And, like, so they can go to Iran, just walk on in.
00:21:00.000 What?
00:21:00.000 Yeah.
00:21:01.000 Like, for the United States, of course, we're barred from going to North Korea, Iran, and like a bunch of these countries.
00:21:05.000 Filipinos just show up and they're like, yeah, come on in.
00:21:07.000 Because They're not going to do anything.
00:21:09.000 It's like they're not a threat.
00:21:11.000 They're not dangerous.
00:21:11.000 I guess we have tables that need to be waited on.
00:21:13.000 Filipinos, Filipino like gangbangers.
00:21:16.000 Do you guys know what leathernecks are?
00:21:18.000 Have you ever heard of leathernecks?
00:21:19.000 Because the Filipinos had knives so they had to wear leather on their necks because they were so good.
00:21:19.000 Yeah.
00:21:24.000 Oh my God.
00:21:25.000 Basically, what I mean is when Filipinos come to other countries, they just work.
00:21:28.000 They don't really bother anybody.
00:21:29.000 We don't hear stories about Filipino gangbangers killing people in America or terror attacks.
00:21:34.000 No, they just come here, they do really well, they make a good amount of money, and they just mind their own business.
00:21:39.000 Look, they should be deported if they're here illegally.
00:21:41.000 Just saying.
00:21:42.000 Just saying.
00:21:43.000 And to piggyback on both of those points, I would say it's unlikely that this attack was a false flag because I think Israel, if they wanted to ramp the war back up, they wouldn't need to justify it to anyone.
00:21:52.000 They probably would just do it.
00:21:54.000 We saw this in southern Lebanon where they sort of re engaged there.
00:21:57.000 The Americans are upset about it, but it doesn't matter.
00:22:00.000 That directly ties into the conversation we were just.
00:22:02.000 No, but I completely agree with this because with October 7th, people hear all these conspiracy theories, and I'm like, guys, I've followed foreign policy my whole life, okay?
00:22:11.000 I was.
00:22:13.000 I was in the newsroom advice when they had teams going out during protective edge.
00:22:17.000 Israel's never needed a reason to just flatten any part of Gaza they wanted to.
00:22:22.000 That's why people get like mad at them because they don't.
00:22:24.000 Right.
00:22:24.000 They just kind of do it whenever they want.
00:22:26.000 They don't need a false flag, guys.
00:22:28.000 They just do it anyway.
00:22:29.000 It's called mowing the lawn.
00:22:30.000 Every few years, they go and they start taking out Hamas targets, which, of course, they're going to be under schools or media centers or whatever it might be.
00:22:38.000 You can complain all you want about it.
00:22:38.000 I'm not saying it's good.
00:22:40.000 I'm just saying they don't, they've never needed a Kaz's belly.
00:22:42.000 They're like, okay, we need, we need an excuse to launch some missiles at Iran.
00:22:42.000 Yeah.
00:22:45.000 Let's just like take out a fly Dubai.
00:22:47.000 It's like, they would just do that anyway.
00:22:49.000 It's Israel.
00:22:50.000 They already kind of understand that they're standing on the globe.
00:22:53.000 I mean, they've spent Spoken about this openly, that their perception on the world stage has declined massively.
00:22:58.000 So I think they're kind of in a position where they're like, we're just going to kind of do whatever we want for the.
00:23:02.000 You're going to hate us anyways, essentially.
00:23:04.000 And I just, I can't imagine where Israel does still.
00:23:10.000 They still do think that the relationship with the Gulf states could still be there.
00:23:14.000 They still think after this war is over that they could sort of form a sort of anti Iran power block.
00:23:19.000 That was kind of what the Abraham Accords were.
00:23:21.000 So it's unlikely they, you know, risk that by staging a false flag with the Dubai.
00:23:26.000 Or if they would probably just shoot down a domestic flight, or if they were to do a false flag, just do something domestic.
00:23:31.000 Yeah, I mean, excuse me.
00:23:34.000 I think Israel, the goal of having, like, you know, a unified bloc against Iran is worth putting the effort in.
00:23:41.000 So the idea of them doing things that are going to put that in jeopardy, I don't think it would happen.
00:23:47.000 And Israel's winning this ideological war, I think, because Iran keeps lashing out at their Muslim neighbors, right?
00:23:54.000 I mean, so they're going after the UAE, they're going after Saudi.
00:23:56.000 I mean, Iran's really turned into sort of the scourge of that region.
00:24:01.000 And I don't think Israel needs to do anything to make the other nations hate Iran more because I think people are getting pissed.
00:24:06.000 I mean, when you're shooting rockets at the UAE, Iran's like lobbing them into their big public spaces.
00:24:15.000 I mean, that's all you got to do to isolate Iran.
00:24:19.000 Now the whole world is against them.
00:24:20.000 So I think, yeah, to your point, I think it would be really stupid for Israel to do something like this.
00:24:26.000 So I don't put a whole lot of thought.
00:24:28.000 The Iranians have been kind of playing off of the Gulf states where they kind of understand that the Gulf states are in many ways caught in the middle, even though a lot of the Saudis and the Emiratis were like wanting this to happen, the initial strikes to happen, because they understand like if we bomb the Saudis, well, they haven't bombed, but if we bomb the Emiratis and the Qataris, they're going to go to the Israelis and the Americans and be like, hey, what the heck?
00:24:49.000 This was supposed to be like limited strikes.
00:24:51.000 Now we're getting bombed.
00:24:52.000 So the Iranians kind of like have a strategy insofar as if we bomb the Gulf states, they hate us anyway, but then we can use that as leverage.
00:25:01.000 So then they'll go and complain to the United States, and then it turns into this whole kind of tug of war.
00:25:06.000 I want to talk about the midterms, but before we get into the hard politics of it, I want to pull up this tweet from Mark Mitchell, Honest Polster.
00:25:15.000 Oof, Fox News views in the demo are down around 50% year over year in September, and it's an election season.
00:25:24.000 We have this follow up from Give Me Three Steps.
00:25:27.000 They posted the actual data boomers are consuming less slop, not good for November.
00:25:33.000 So we take a look at primetime, 8 to 11 p.m., 2025 to 2026, down 39% in the key demo.
00:25:43.000 They're down 49% in the key demo.
00:25:45.000 Total day, down 48% in the key demo.
00:25:50.000 We have this post as well.
00:25:52.000 Total views for the same window on Saturday, 765,000 total viewers.
00:26:01.000 This is absolutely insane.
00:26:03.000 It's not just Fox News.
00:26:04.000 I'm not singling out Fox News because Fox is beating.
00:26:07.000 CNN and MS Now.
00:26:09.000 But what the happened in the last year where basically everybody just turned off the TV, stopped watching everything?
00:26:18.000 Because I'm going to stress this.
00:26:20.000 It's not just every, every, to a hammer, everything looks like an ale.
00:26:24.000 And so you get these pollsters that live in politics and they're like, whoa, Fox News views are down.
00:26:27.000 Yeah, well, sports views are down too.
00:26:30.000 Where did everybody just go?
00:26:32.000 What happened?
00:26:33.000 Outside.
00:26:34.000 Maybe.
00:26:35.000 I don't know that that makes sense.
00:26:37.000 We have phones.
00:26:38.000 What happened where just abruptly over one year, 50% of people were like, I ain't going to watch TV anymore.
00:26:46.000 I mean, apps, videos, podcasts, whatever.
00:26:50.000 Was it all fake?
00:26:52.000 I mean, maybe.
00:26:54.000 I suppose if you've got decline in viewership and stuff across the board, multiple genres, not just news, but you're talking about sports, you're talking about everything, maybe all these industries were padding the numbers and now you have something that reflects reality.
00:27:12.000 I think the only, I've heard this from a lot of people because I've talked, we have ad sales teams and stuff like that.
00:27:17.000 And I'm hearing people say, like, well, do you think habits just changed?
00:27:20.000 And I'm like, habits don't change in a month.
00:27:23.000 Like September of last year, it just drops off and doesn't come back.
00:27:28.000 And that is not a habit we've tracked in media.
00:27:31.000 Even watching the change in habit with the younger generation, the older generation, I don't think a bunch of boomers just died.
00:27:39.000 We are expecting there to be a rapid decline, but that would be month over month.
00:27:42.000 You'd see a rep, you wouldn't just see it go.
00:27:44.000 It looks like the numbers were fake the whole time.
00:27:47.000 Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably likely as they were juicing their numbers.
00:27:51.000 And I don't know, maybe some metrics.
00:27:53.000 USAID was juicing the numbers for everything.
00:27:55.000 Yeah, USAID combined with like maybe they, I don't know, the FTC or something, maybe demanded different metrics or something.
00:28:02.000 I don't know what the internals are, but something had to, because it's not like those people got Thanos snapped.
00:28:05.000 Well, I'll mention this.
00:28:08.000 We talked about this last night briefly in the uncensored portion of the show.
00:28:12.000 Obviously, anybody who watches this show knows that our concurrent viewership is down.
00:28:16.000 A year ago, we were doing 67,000 concurrents.
00:28:19.000 Live on YouTube.
00:28:20.000 And that sounds amazing.
00:28:21.000 It's like, wow, we're the biggest primetime show on YouTube.
00:28:24.000 Right now, we got about 11,000.
00:28:25.000 On YouTube, we got about 12,000 on Rumble.
00:28:29.000 Our views to watch time ratio has not changed.
00:28:33.000 So I'm sitting here being like, how is it possible that we're doing, we do about 250K on YouTube, we do about 250K on Rumble, and then we've got between like X, Facebook, and the podcast, another 200,000 or whatever.
00:28:45.000 How could it be that our concurrent views go way down from 60 to 15,000 in the course of a year, but we get the same viewership?
00:28:54.000 And the same watch time per viewer.
00:28:56.000 That math makes literally no sense, unless the argument is nobody watches live and they're now watching the show.
00:29:03.000 No, that doesn't make sense either, because when the show wraps, we check in the two hours a show is live, we'll get about 150,000 unique viewers, and we'll get the same average watch time that we got a year ago.
00:29:15.000 Literally, it makes no sense.
00:29:17.000 I'm going to have to go there, guys.
00:29:19.000 USAID was faking everything, maybe so that people around the world and other countries presumed.
00:29:26.000 US culture was dominating all forms of media?
00:29:29.000 I don't know.
00:29:30.000 All I know is it makes no sense in an election year that we're seeing all news go down and we're also seeing sports go down and YouTube and everything.
00:29:43.000 That makes no sense to me.
00:29:44.000 Yeah, I mean, I would have to know.
00:29:45.000 The app is off the charts.
00:29:46.000 I'd like to know, and you guys probably know this better than I would, who controls these numbers?
00:29:52.000 Like, who's the wizard behind the curtain pulling the strings that these numbers come from?
00:29:58.000 Like, is there.
00:29:59.000 Is there an overarching authority that says, hey, these are legitimate numbers?
00:30:02.000 It's just random?
00:30:03.000 Is it YouTube?
00:30:03.000 You got to trust YouTube?
00:30:04.000 Well, who gets to?
00:30:06.000 Look, I'll say everybody's lying to varying degrees because it's hard to know for sure.
00:30:12.000 So you just, everybody goes with the best possibility.
00:30:15.000 So, you know, it's like, well, look, I got, you know, a million on Instagram.
00:30:15.000 Yeah.
00:30:20.000 How many of those actually watched the video?
00:30:23.000 Yeah, we don't really know.
00:30:24.000 We just know that at some point that person clicked the video.
00:30:26.000 Can you trust Instagram that they are being honest with that million number?
00:30:31.000 Maybe that's the issue right now is that they weren't before and now they are.
00:30:34.000 Now they're starting to be honest.
00:30:36.000 Yeah.
00:30:36.000 Yeah, I mean,.
00:30:37.000 So, there was a big story when USAID got shut down.
00:30:40.000 Five months later, rap isn't on the Billboard Hot 100 for the first time in like 30 years.
00:30:45.000 And now we've got.
00:30:45.000 It's stayed off, too.
00:30:46.000 It hasn't.
00:30:47.000 There's been a few that have popped up, but not hit anywhere in the top 10 or anything like that.
00:30:51.000 So, the liberals come on and go, What do you mean?
00:30:52.000 Like, here's a few rap songs that clearly made the charts.
00:30:54.000 And you're like, Yeah, of course.
00:30:56.000 But it's like country is taking over.
00:30:59.000 The belief is that I don't know how or if USAID was involved, but something was happening behind the scenes.
00:31:06.000 And I think it was psychological operations.
00:31:08.000 Yeah, I agree with that.
00:31:09.000 You get.
00:31:09.000 So, I'll give you an example.
00:31:11.000 When Elon Musk announced he was going to buy Twitter, what did we see?
00:31:15.000 I don't know if you know this story.
00:31:17.000 All the major liberal influencers lost millions of followers and the conservatives gained millions.
00:31:23.000 Now, how does that make sense at all?
00:31:25.000 It was very, very weird.
00:31:27.000 The argument we heard was liberals are fleeing X because Elon's buying.
00:31:31.000 It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:31:32.000 Elon did not buy it.
00:31:34.000 And the sale was blocked at the time.
00:31:36.000 They were saying he wasn't going to be able to buy it.
00:31:38.000 And liberals were making fun of Elon for failing to purchase Twitter.
00:31:42.000 Yet somehow we saw accounts like Cenk Uger.
00:31:45.000 Losing insane amounts of followers.
00:31:48.000 One theory was that Twitter was intentionally padding the numbers for liberals and suppressing the numbers for conservatives to make it look like liberalism was popular when it was not.
00:31:59.000 I couldn't agree with you more.
00:32:00.000 I think we've been lied to more than we realize in the last 10 years, 15 years.
00:32:05.000 And I think it's, you know, one of the best things I think the Trump administration has done thus far is gone after USAID.
00:32:12.000 I mean, and people talk about the midterms, Tim.
00:32:14.000 So we'll talk about, you know, I know we're saying, oh man, this is going to be a hard year for Republicans.
00:32:18.000 Maybe, but.
00:32:19.000 Remember, the last election cycle that we had, USAID was pumping tons of money into getting Democrats elected.
00:32:26.000 They don't have it.
00:32:27.000 This is the first election that they will not have that money.
00:32:30.000 I think that's going to play big dividends for honesty in actually this election.
00:32:35.000 So maybe it won't be quite the bloodbath that some were saying for three people.
00:32:39.000 I think it's all fake.
00:32:40.000 Look at this.
00:32:40.000 Yeah.
00:32:41.000 This is from after the sale.
00:32:44.000 Big accounts on the left are losing followers, those on the right are gaining followers.
00:32:47.000 Holy smokes.
00:32:47.000 The people on the left who are leaving aren't deleting their accounts, they're just not logging in.
00:32:53.000 So, this just, it's all fake.
00:32:55.000 I think it's all fake.
00:32:56.000 I think there's some kind of conflict.
00:32:58.000 Like, we know there is an elite civil war going on.
00:33:01.000 Like, they try to put Trump in prison.
00:33:03.000 Trump's obviously at odds.
00:33:04.000 We've got Jack Smith testifying saying Trump's breaking the law.
00:33:07.000 We get it.
00:33:08.000 The ultra wealthy, powerful elites in politics are all fighting each other.
00:33:11.000 This, I think this is proof of it.
00:33:13.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:33:14.000 And listen, we have been, I praise God for President Trump because I think he's the only person that could break the machine the way he's done.
00:33:21.000 Now, has he done everything perfect?
00:33:22.000 No, but he has broke the machine.
00:33:25.000 To where we would have still been being lied to.
00:33:28.000 We would have still seen the business as usual.
00:33:31.000 It would have been Rhino GOP, weak sauce Republicans trying to say, oh, we're standing strong.
00:33:37.000 And they would have been steamrolled by all of these tech titans that have been lying to us.
00:33:42.000 And I mean, listen, I think we're starting to see a little bit of honesty come back into the world around us.
00:33:47.000 And I think that's a win because I think once the honesty happens, then I think our side starts winning.
00:33:52.000 I think the ramifications of USAID being defunded and basically being dissolved.
00:34:00.000 Can't be overstated.
00:34:01.000 I think that you're seeing like global impact, not just here in the US, which I think there's great results here in the US.
00:34:08.000 But like, I think that.
00:34:11.000 You didn't get him?
00:34:14.000 I think if you look at like South America and the elections that have been happening down there, there's a ton of countries that have been left wing for decades.
00:34:22.000 And I think that the reason that they're electing, you know, either centrist or right leaning or sometimes far right candidates is because.
00:34:31.000 He wasn't a moth, by the way.
00:34:32.000 What was that?
00:34:33.000 It wasn't a moth.
00:34:33.000 I.
00:34:34.000 It was like just some goofy looking bear.
00:34:36.000 It was the moth man.
00:34:37.000 I am not an AI generated.
00:34:40.000 What is it?
00:34:40.000 Is it entomologist?
00:34:42.000 Entomologist.
00:34:42.000 Yeah.
00:34:44.000 But yeah, I think that you see South America, there's a ton of countries that have elected right wing politicians.
00:34:50.000 And then it is possible, obviously, we don't have any kind of metrics on this, but it is possible that the lack of USAID money is affecting things like entertainment, things like what people are, what the numbers are saying.
00:35:01.000 You know, it could very well be that NGOs and stuff were.
00:35:05.000 Paying a lot of the social media companies or paying for to pump up ads so they could get better ad rates, you know.
00:35:11.000 And to the point about, you know, hip hop not being on the billboard, you know, top songs.
00:35:15.000 I mean, I think culture was being shaped by radicals who controlled the USAID funds.
00:35:21.000 And culture means everything it means the entertainment, the music, the politics, the family life, what you believe about liberalism or conservatism.
00:35:29.000 I mean, so I think we've seen the breaking of the system.
00:35:33.000 So now we can actually, you know, the light's starting to shine in.
00:35:36.000 And I think it's going to be a different season going forward.
00:35:38.000 Yeah, I hope you're right.
00:35:39.000 I want to believe that.
00:35:40.000 Whether or not that's going to turn into Republicans winning in the midterms, I don't know.
00:35:46.000 I'm still of the opinion that the thing that really drives people to the polls in the midterms is if they're angry, they won't.
00:35:56.000 If they're happy, they'll go and they'll vote.
00:35:58.000 If they're not happy, they're not going to go.
00:36:00.000 Because people still kind of look at it.
00:36:02.000 I mean, you have to have a really, really pissed off electorate to get people to go out and vote, which the left has.
00:36:10.000 They hate Donald Trump.
00:36:11.000 They hate Donald Trump.
00:36:11.000 That's all they got.
00:36:12.000 They, you know, orange man bad, right?
00:36:14.000 That's what they do.
00:36:15.000 They're pissed.
00:36:16.000 They're going to go vote because of that.
00:36:17.000 They have no, but the right, they might be mad, but they're not pissed, right?
00:36:21.000 They're like, I don't like how this happened.
00:36:24.000 I don't like what Republicans are doing here or the Iran war or gas is too high or all this stuff.
00:36:29.000 And it's like, okay, guys, that's great, but we have to save our nation.
00:36:32.000 Yeah.
00:36:33.000 Get your butts to the polls.
00:36:34.000 I think there's a vocal minority of people that are really, really, really upset about the Iran war, but I think they are a very small, narrow minority.
00:36:43.000 Part of the electorate.
00:36:44.000 I think that the average Republican still looks at Israel.
00:36:47.000 I'm talking about people that are not super plugged in politically.
00:36:51.000 And if they're like, if they have a positive opinion, they're like, well, yeah, you know, they're an ally.
00:36:58.000 So I guess, yeah.
00:37:00.000 Or they're indifferent.
00:37:02.000 The people that are angry, they're going to be vocal.
00:37:06.000 They're definitely not going to go, or they might go and cast a protest vote.
00:37:09.000 And I'm just hoping that those people that are really angry either look.
00:37:14.000 I can't tell you to go and vote.
00:37:15.000 You know, can't tell you who to vote for.
00:37:17.000 I would like to see people vote for Republicans because I'd like to see Donald Trump doing more of what he's been doing because a lot of the things that he has been successful in passing or whatever, they're all from executive action.
00:37:29.000 There has been no significant legislation since the big, beautiful bill.
00:37:32.000 And I would like to see those kind of policies continue.
00:37:36.000 I'd love to see Congress actually pass some bills and codify them because there's a lot of things that we talked about that we will start to see some kind of benefit to the United States.
00:37:48.000 But these things are probably a couple years down the road because he's setting the, he's basically setting up the conditions for the US to be in a stronger position two, three, four, five years down the road.
00:37:58.000 That's what people have to remember.
00:37:59.000 It takes time to fix the chaos that four years of Biden and Democrats did to this.
00:38:03.000 Not just four years.
00:38:04.000 Well, yeah, 60 years.
00:38:05.000 Yes, you're right.
00:38:06.000 I mean, you can go all the way back, but think about just the border, right?
00:38:09.000 The last four years, now we've had a border problem before Biden, but I'm going to tell you, the last four years was awful.
00:38:15.000 And so to clean that mess up, I mean, it's going to take time.
00:38:18.000 And so we've got to stay the course, we've got to be persistent.
00:38:21.000 And if we get into this instant gratification sort of mindset, we're going to give it right back over to the left, and they're going to continue to destroy us.
00:38:30.000 And the people that seem to be most upset, they are looking for immediate things.
00:38:34.000 Now, there are some things that they're upset about that they're 100% justified.
00:38:39.000 There's a lot of people that are upset about the fact that nobody is being held to account for all the COVID stuff, right?
00:38:46.000 And there was a lot of absolutely atrocious behavior by the federal government surrounding COVID.
00:38:53.000 There are a lot of people that are upset about a lot of the things when people were attacking Trump.
00:38:57.000 There hasn't been investigations about some of the stuff.
00:39:00.000 And I get that.
00:39:01.000 And I think they're right to be upset about that.
00:39:03.000 But at the same time, the Doesn't mean that you derail the entire administration.
00:39:08.000 Yeah.
00:39:08.000 So that way, things like the border, which in my opinion is the most important thing the U.S. is facing, so that there can't, so progress on the border and reducing the number of illegal immigrants here can be, you know, pulled back.
00:39:22.000 Americans are real bad at thinking long term.
00:39:25.000 We think like here and now, short term.
00:39:27.000 And that can be, that can be our, one of our greatest weaknesses that we, yeah.
00:39:30.000 Look, I try to, I try to be sympathetic because look, I go and I fill up my car.
00:39:34.000 Yeah, totally.
00:39:35.000 You know, I got, I've got a Tesla, but I've also got a Jeep.
00:39:38.000 And it like, It cost me 70 bucks for like two thirds of a tank the other day, you know?
00:39:44.000 And so I get it.
00:39:45.000 It's fundamentally because it's not a uniquely American problem.
00:39:47.000 I mean, it is a natural function of democracy where the leader has to basically think in two year time frames.
00:39:56.000 Like, it's a very unfortunate sort of reality.
00:39:58.000 I mean, there's benefits of democracy, obviously.
00:40:00.000 But, you know, when your global foes don't have to worry about elections, you know, that makes them a bit more agile.
00:40:05.000 They're able to think longer term.
00:40:07.000 Yeah.
00:40:07.000 I mean, Iran just put out a thing saying, look, go vote for the Democrats because they know.
00:40:10.000 Yeah, well, put out a big message to the American people go vote for the Democrats.
00:40:13.000 And they, the, the, the, actually, yeah, they did the release for regime change.
00:40:18.000 The release that they did could have been written by any of the libertarians out there.
00:40:23.000 Love it.
00:40:23.000 It could have, it's literally point for point all of the arguments that libertarians.
00:40:27.000 Well, and, and this is what makes the situation difficult.
00:40:29.000 I mean, this is why Iran was such a misstep because I completely agree.
00:40:34.000 I mean, I, I was making this argument for a long time, which is, yeah, like, it's unrealistic that we're going to get like 20 million deportations in the first year or something.
00:40:42.000 Okay, we do need to see it ramping up, et cetera.
00:40:44.000 But I do, I am like an agreement that, okay, yes, this does take time to sort of sort this out.
00:40:50.000 I mean, just to get us back to 2020 levels of illegal immigration, it's going to take time.
00:40:56.000 So, what I'm getting is this is why Iran is such a misstep because when you blow up the economy or you blow up inflation and cost of living right before an election, even if people are going to the polls and they're saying, they're not saying, I'm so mad about the Iran war, like most people aren't necessarily saying that, but it's this sort of constellation of fallout.
00:41:15.000 From all of the different aspects of American life that have been affected by Iran, people get really upset with the ruling party.
00:41:21.000 So we can say, oh, well, stay the course.
00:41:25.000 And I mean, I agree, this is going to take a long time.
00:41:28.000 But the reality is that's not how voters operate.
00:41:30.000 No, not at all.
00:41:31.000 You're in a democracy, so you kind of have to play ball with the situation you're in.
00:41:34.000 And that's why it was such a misstep to take on such a large, long foreign policy strategy when we don't even know if we're going to hold the executive in two years.
00:41:43.000 Let's jump to this next story.
00:41:45.000 So, we were just discussing how Fox News key demo viewership is down nearly 50% year over year in an election year.
00:41:53.000 That's absolutely insane.
00:41:55.000 People are largely tuning out, but it does seem strange.
00:41:58.000 Now, is this translating?
00:42:00.000 Are we seeing something in politics?
00:42:02.000 Kelsey's got it at Democrat sweep 62%, Democrat House, Republican Senate 28%, which does seem possible, but is dropping.
00:42:12.000 And we've got this poll from Wall Street Journal Americans want populist policies that defy traditional political labels.
00:42:19.000 They say the top 10 policies with highest support among both Democrat and Republican voters pass a law to ban surprise medical bills.
00:42:26.000 Require insurance companies to cover services and medicines prescribed by doctors.
00:42:30.000 Cap the max of prescription drugs.
00:42:32.000 Cap credit card interest rates at 10%.
00:42:34.000 Stop illegal immigration at the border.
00:42:37.000 Restrict large institutional investors from buying large numbers of single family homes, which Trump did.
00:42:42.000 Create a pathway to citizenship for long term immigrants who contribute to their communities.
00:42:45.000 Yes, if they're here legally.
00:42:47.000 Cap child care costs for working families.
00:42:49.000 All of these are fairly populist.
00:42:53.000 The question is why aren't Republicans campaigning on any of these things?
00:42:58.000 Well, I mean, because it's, I mean, it goes back to the cost of living.
00:43:02.000 I mean, this is, this was the Republicans' bread and butter in Trump 1.0 because we had a rockstar economy.
00:43:08.000 I mean, even Democrats were saying, you know, you can go look at some of the polling from the first term, and even Democrats were saying they trusted the Republicans more with the economy than the Democrats.
00:43:18.000 And when you don't have that, again, that is like our fastball as Republicans.
00:43:21.000 You can say this, that, or the other, but at least we're going to have, you know, a rockstar economy.
00:43:26.000 If you lose that, you know, it puts you in a really difficult situation.
00:43:29.000 So a lot of these candidates are going to the stump.
00:43:31.000 And senators to a degree, but representatives can't go up there and make these promises like, hey, we're going to cap credit card interest at 10%.
00:43:38.000 That's got to come from the executive.
00:43:40.000 Maybe governors have some bandwidth there.
00:43:42.000 Senators have to go and defend their party's record.
00:43:45.000 That's the reality of the situation.
00:43:46.000 That's how people view politics now, they don't even, like, for example, in Michigan, I'm sure there's people that really like El Said, but generally speaking, most people are just thinking, okay, that's the Democrat and that's the Republican.
00:43:56.000 And I'm mad at the Republicans right now, so I'm going to vote for the Democrats for that sort of block of swing voters that still exist.
00:44:01.000 So, they have to go up and they have to defend the record of the last two years.
00:44:05.000 And when you don't supply them with the economic ammunition that they need on the stump, it's going to cause problems.
00:44:09.000 So, like, I agree, you know, it would be nice for Republicans to kind of come up with these out of the box, more populist policies on the stump.
00:44:17.000 But they understand that that's going to bite them in the butt because they're not going to be able to pass any of that.
00:44:20.000 They can't even pass stuff like the Save Act, which is, you know, universally popular, actually, if you look at the polling just there.
00:44:26.000 I mean, the independents love it.
00:44:26.000 Yeah.
00:44:28.000 So, the bill that was on the Senate just voted down, all the Democrats voted against it, it had the Save Act in it.
00:44:35.000 And that's the argument that Democrats.
00:44:36.000 Democrats are making.
00:44:37.000 And this was, this was voter ID, which is 75, 80% popular with the American electorate in total, Democrats and Republicans.
00:44:44.000 And then there was the stop insider trading, basically, which is again, extremely popular with the American people.
00:44:51.000 But, you know, they're, they're consistently Democrats and Republicans saying we should stop this.
00:44:56.000 And every single Democrat voted down, voted no on this.
00:45:00.000 And it was because of the voter ID, which again is popular with the American people.
00:45:05.000 There, it was basically politically insulated.
00:45:08.000 But they still voted it down because it was going to be popular.
00:45:11.000 It would help Donald Trump at the polls and it would cause issues for Democrats that don't want to show ID when they vote.
00:45:19.000 It's just with those specific policy proposals, it's really rare that a politician can propose.
00:45:25.000 Governors is a different ballgame because governors can actually make those promises and implement them.
00:45:30.000 Probably even state reps and state senators.
00:45:33.000 But for senators and U.S. representatives, it's really difficult for them to run on one policy because typically all these policies that are on here, although people say they like them, Like low salience.
00:45:43.000 People are going to ultimately vote on vibes, and vibes oftentimes are derivative on how well am I doing right now.
00:45:50.000 If people feel like they've gotten poor since last year, they feel like their money's not stretching as far, they're going to get upset about that.
00:45:56.000 I mean, again, we can sit here and bemoan that, but that's just how politics works.
00:46:01.000 Someone like Mike Rogers is in an especially difficult situation because Michigan has uniquely high gas prices for the region.
00:46:06.000 I mean, this great state of Indiana, gas is like a dollar cheaper than it is in Michigan right now.
00:46:11.000 And while, yes, a lot of those high gas prices in Michigan are attributable to the Democrat governance there, that's absolutely true.
00:46:18.000 The problem is El Said can go and easily blame it on the Iran war.
00:46:21.000 You kind of lose that plausible deniability when there's two factors that are causing the Michigan gas prices to drive up.
00:46:21.000 Yep.
00:46:26.000 So it puts Mike Rogers in a tough situation because that race is ultimately a referendum on the Trump administration.
00:46:31.000 Well, how's Indiana doing?
00:46:33.000 Good.
00:46:33.000 I mean, got a great new football team.
00:46:36.000 Bears are coming over.
00:46:37.000 Gonna go after the Bengals here pretty soon.
00:46:40.000 Are you actually?
00:46:41.000 Oh, I was gonna say.
00:46:41.000 No.
00:46:42.000 I wouldn't be surprised, man.
00:46:43.000 You're killing it.
00:46:44.000 No, but I mean, yeah, don't tempt us, you know?
00:46:47.000 No, but I say Indiana's doing well.
00:46:49.000 Now, here's what we've done.
00:46:50.000 So we've got good governance in Indiana.
00:46:52.000 So we've got a balanced budget.
00:46:53.000 We've had it for a long time.
00:46:54.000 We've been in the The black, not in the red.
00:46:56.000 Like states like Michigan are struggling.
00:46:58.000 They can't do what we did.
00:46:59.000 Like we kind of see what we did with Illinois.
00:47:01.000 But Michigan and Indiana, what we've done is we've cut our gas tax.
00:47:04.000 We've suspended our gas tax.
00:47:06.000 That took 60 cents off of the pump right there.
00:47:09.000 And so we've seen huge gains.
00:47:12.000 I mean, gas, I filled up earlier today.
00:47:14.000 Gas was like 374, 380, roughly give or take.
00:47:19.000 Better than most.
00:47:19.000 Better than most, right?
00:47:20.000 A little rough.
00:47:21.000 A little high, but not where you go to Michigan and it's 480.
00:47:25.000 It's five bucks a gallon.
00:47:26.000 I mean, that's when you really start.
00:47:27.000 You know, hurting it.
00:47:28.000 So, but it's again because we can do this.
00:47:31.000 Like, we can.
00:47:31.000 So, our governor did this a few months ago, and he's going to continue to extend that to say, hey, we're going to give relief.
00:47:38.000 And listen, we're going to keep cutting taxes in Indiana.
00:47:40.000 Like, right now, like, we can do better.
00:47:41.000 Like, we're a great state.
00:47:43.000 We've got great tax policy.
00:47:44.000 It's super, super low taxes, very limited government, very low regulation.
00:47:48.000 However, we can do better.
00:47:50.000 And that's always got to be the mindset of every politician is, hey, we can do better.
00:47:54.000 Because a lot of times people will say, well, Indiana is good.
00:47:56.000 Like, look at Illinois, look at Michigan.
00:47:58.000 We're good.
00:47:58.000 And I'm like, yeah, yeah.
00:47:59.000 That's fine that we're much better than Illinois or Michigan.
00:48:01.000 That's a low bar.
00:48:02.000 Let's do better, right?
00:48:04.000 And let's cut more taxes.
00:48:05.000 Let's limit government anymore.
00:48:06.000 Because I'm going to tell you, government's natural state of being is growth, right?
00:48:11.000 It will always grow and grow and grow until somebody comes in and says, we need to cut it.
00:48:16.000 And so the natural state of being for every politician has to be cut government.
00:48:21.000 Where can we cut taxes?
00:48:22.000 Where can we limit government?
00:48:23.000 Because if we don't do that, if we don't counter the natural state of government growth, then we will just allow this thing to grow out of control.
00:48:29.000 Two big problems with government.
00:48:31.000 Government programs can't fail because they're lost programs as it is, and bills never sunset.
00:48:38.000 So you get laws on the books that just stay forever.
00:48:40.000 That's right.
00:48:41.000 With a private enterprise, you can go out of business and then you're gone, problem solved.
00:48:45.000 But when the government says, we're going to spend X amount of dollars here, what happens when there's a budget shortfall?
00:48:50.000 What do they do?
00:48:51.000 New taxes.
00:48:52.000 And it's an addiction that keeps getting worse.
00:48:54.000 We see this in Indiana with our property taxes.
00:48:58.000 So, property taxes, we've got a lot of Republican local governments.
00:49:02.000 For the most part, they do a good job.
00:49:03.000 The problem is they will say, hey, we've got to keep up with inflation in the economy.
00:49:10.000 So we're going to tap into more homeowners on their property taxes.
00:49:15.000 So even Republicans fall prey to this trap that in some cases, well, we're just going to raise money and revenue.
00:49:21.000 So we're just going to tax more.
00:49:23.000 And they'll say, you know, we come in as a state and say, hey, we want to limit property taxes.
00:49:26.000 We want to get rid of property taxes because we think it's immoral and you shouldn't have to rent your property from the government.
00:49:32.000 And then you'll hear local officials, a lot of times, even local Republican officials say, Hey, that's our money.
00:49:39.000 And you have to remind Republicans no, it's not.
00:49:42.000 That's the taxpayers' money.
00:49:43.000 That's the citizens' money.
00:49:45.000 It's not your money.
00:49:46.000 Well, how are we going to pay for stuff?
00:49:48.000 Well, I'm sorry.
00:49:49.000 I'm not concerned with government paying for stuff as much as I am the homeowner or the family member or the parent paying for stuff.
00:49:57.000 And so we just have to, we've got to check ourselves and never let it run out of, run away from us to say, hey, oh, government deserves to spend more, to build more.
00:50:07.000 And even, oh, it'll be good.
00:50:09.000 Like it'll be good for the community.
00:50:10.000 And then people want to live here.
00:50:11.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:50:12.000 Okay, great.
00:50:13.000 But just like everyone else, if you don't have the money, you got to live in a budget.
00:50:17.000 And sometimes government forgets that they have to budget, live within a budget.
00:50:20.000 Because to your point, Tim, they didn't, They can just tax.
00:50:23.000 It's the only industry where if people buy less, you can still get more.
00:50:27.000 They just print.
00:50:29.000 It's pretty nice, actually, if you're a business owner.
00:50:31.000 It'd be nice to have a printing machine.
00:50:33.000 It's pretty nice if you're working for an NGO outside of D.C. and USAID is dumping money in your bank account no matter what you do.
00:50:38.000 No kidding.
00:50:39.000 It's what made it interesting about Trump because this works really well at the state level, but at the federal level, you just have so much gridlock.
00:50:46.000 A great example is Amtrak, where Amtrak, they have one profitable line.
00:50:51.000 It's the Acela line that actually makes money, and it makes a lot of sense to have a train line there from D.C. to You know, Boston, you got Philly, New York, et cetera.
00:50:58.000 But then you have these, you know, lines that go from, you know, New, I'm just spitballing here, but like New Orleans to Seattle.
00:51:04.000 It's like just, I mean, hemorrhaging money.
00:51:07.000 And any logical, you know, if it was a business, you just cut that line and bolster the Acela line.
00:51:12.000 And then when you make enough money, maybe you can try and expand to Florida or something.
00:51:15.000 So whenever these fights come up in the Senate, I'm just going to pick on him.
00:51:19.000 I don't know what his record is.
00:51:20.000 I'm just using him as a stand in.
00:51:22.000 It's like, you know, John Barrasso in Wyoming.
00:51:23.000 And we like, you know, Barrasso's whatever.
00:51:25.000 But, you know, if there's an Amtrak line running through Wyoming, And they're saying we need to cut this line.
00:51:31.000 It's not making any money.
00:51:31.000 He's saying, I'm going to lose 3,000 jobs for my constituents.
00:51:35.000 I can't justify that.
00:51:36.000 So we're keeping that line in.
00:51:38.000 So it's like, it's all built in.
00:51:39.000 It makes it impossible to actually cut anything from the budget.
00:51:42.000 And I mean, Doge found this out where Doge did make some cuts, but they were promising $2 trillion in cuts.
00:51:47.000 And we got like, I think $20 billion that you could like read on a spreadsheet.
00:51:51.000 And the primary reason, it's no fault of their own that they realize this.
00:51:54.000 A lot of this is approved by Congress and they can't justify even losing 200 jobs.
00:51:58.000 Because their constituents, they're in a town hall, they're going to get raked over the coals on it.
00:52:02.000 And then their opponent's going to use that in an attack ad or put them up on stage.
00:52:05.000 And it's just so at the federal level, it's all like baked in.
00:52:08.000 So, what I like about Trump is he kind of realized this.
00:52:10.000 Trump was just like, austerity measures probably not going to happen until we like sort this country out long term.
00:52:16.000 So, he's like, I'm just going to use the money to like get my agenda across.
00:52:20.000 So, that's the big, beautiful bill comes across everyone's desk.
00:52:23.000 And you have these budget hawks come out and they're like, no, this is going to expand the budget.
00:52:26.000 And Trump's like, the budget's going to get blown out anyway.
00:52:29.000 Let's at least like channel the money from USAID to like ICE, right?
00:52:32.000 Like, that's kind of logical.
00:52:33.000 And so, I kind of like that approach where it's like, I think states like in India that's smart.
00:52:36.000 It's not even austerity measures because you're just cutting like fat, like just stuff that shouldn't even be on the state budget in the first place.
00:52:42.000 But on the contrary, kind of on the flip side, at the federal level, from my perspective, it feels like the Republicans constantly promise we're going to cut the budget and then it never actually happens.
00:52:50.000 Trump just is like, I don't know, maybe, but we're going to actually just reallocate this money and then put it into government programs that actually benefit American people, like ICE.
00:52:57.000 And so it's kind of this balance, but certainly Indiana makes sense.
00:53:00.000 No, Indianapolis is an interesting thing going on.
00:53:03.000 So we have this terrible bus line called the Red Line, and it's not any good.
00:53:08.000 It clogs up.
00:53:09.000 They took a.
00:53:11.000 Lane of the streets, and they allocated it for the bus.
00:53:14.000 So now traffic is worse, right?
00:53:16.000 They're pushing everyone into this public bus line.
00:53:18.000 It doesn't do well, it doesn't make any money.
00:53:21.000 Well, they thought it would be better because it's a Democrat controlled city to put in another line, the red line, going the other direction, or the one's northwest or northeast, north south, the other one's east west.
00:53:34.000 And so, but what you could find is with this bus line that they're putting in, you'd be able to buy every resident.
00:53:41.000 A new car for the same amount of money that they are spending on this bus line that's going to congest the traffic even more.
00:53:49.000 It's not going to be as efficient.
00:53:50.000 It doesn't make money.
00:53:51.000 These things hemorrhage money.
00:53:52.000 They never break, they never even break even.
00:53:54.000 And so, you know, if you're a business owner, you'd be looking at this and be like, wow, it's not really practical to put in a bus line.
00:54:00.000 Why don't we just buy everybody in Indianapolis a new car?
00:54:02.000 That's a lot cheaper, we'll save money, and people will be able to get around a lot more effectively and efficiently.
00:54:08.000 And, but yet in government, you can't do that, right?
00:54:10.000 You'd reignite the auto industry.
00:54:11.000 You would.
00:54:12.000 There you go, right?
00:54:13.000 Well, it's funny because, you know, And this is again what kind of sucks just about the situation we're in, as you know, in civics broadly is like you can't even try necessarily.
00:54:24.000 I mean, I don't know what's going on in Indiana, but like broadly, you can't even try like solutions.
00:54:28.000 For example, in China, they're having all this gridlock.
00:54:30.000 They're like, all right, we'll just build high speed rail, and the people that don't want to drive, they can get on the rail and they get from point A to point B.
00:54:35.000 Well, we try it in California.
00:54:36.000 The Democrats try it, to be fair, and they blow up the budget and they don't even have a train line.
00:54:40.000 It goes from like Merced to Bakersfield or something like total disaster.
00:54:43.000 And so it's so frustrating.
00:54:44.000 So everyone just kind of throws their hands in the air and they're like, I guess we can't have.
00:54:48.000 You know, high speed rail or anything like that.
00:54:50.000 And then additionally, you know, when you do build the high speed rail, we can't even get the bums off of it because we have all these, like, we can't even enforce vagrancy laws.
00:54:59.000 So you go, you know, you go to like, you know, you go like on the subway in New York, a marvel of infrastructure.
00:55:04.000 I think it's a fantastic, I mean, it's unbelievable the New York subway.
00:55:07.000 It's like the most robust metro system in the world.
00:55:10.000 But, and there's like homeless people everywhere.
00:55:12.000 So it's like we have the problem where we can't, we can't build new infrastructure anymore.
00:55:15.000 But then when we do build it, we can't even enforce like laws on the books to make it safe.
00:55:19.000 So people won't even want to take the train in the first place.
00:55:22.000 Let me tell you a story, young Tate.
00:55:23.000 The story of a woman named Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.
00:55:28.000 So, Amazon wanted to open a warehouse in New York City, and it was going to generate billions of dollars.
00:55:35.000 They negotiated with the city and said, here's what we'll do.
00:55:37.000 You give us a discount on our tax bill, we'll build there, we'll end up paying you billions of dollars in tax revenue, but make it cheaper for us than anywhere else, and you win our business.
00:55:48.000 So, the city was like, praise be, because our infrastructure is crumbling, our trains are running down, and we need the money to fix them.
00:55:57.000 So, protesters who don't understand math gather in the financial district in New York.
00:56:04.000 AOC joins them.
00:56:06.000 And AOC gives a quote Why are we giving Amazon $3 billion?
00:56:12.000 These activists genuinely believed that a tax discount was the city giving cash to Amazon and got them to shut down their build.
00:56:22.000 And New York has faced a budget deficit ever since.
00:56:27.000 And now, And this is news.
00:56:28.000 We'll get into it.
00:56:29.000 Actually, we'll jump into it in a second.
00:56:30.000 Zoran Mamadani is like, let's just tax everybody and then make the state pay for it.
00:56:36.000 AOC sabotaged her city and state, and now they're blaming the wealthy.
00:56:43.000 Let's do this.
00:56:44.000 Let's pull this story up.
00:56:45.000 We got this news.
00:56:46.000 We got this from the New York Times.
00:56:49.000 Judge orders New York to scrap rollout of second home tax and start over.
00:56:53.000 Staten Island judge sided with a group of homeowners who had sued the city over its introduction of the tax, dealing a blow to Mayor Zoran Mamadani.
00:57:01.000 So he says, What we're going to do is we're going to tax anybody who's got a second home in the city.
00:57:05.000 Basically, go after rich people.
00:57:07.000 This is insane because you've got penthouses with a lot of money.
00:57:10.000 They pay an insane amount of taxes and they're barely there.
00:57:14.000 So it's almost no footprint.
00:57:16.000 A lot of these properties are in skyscrapers that are in use.
00:57:20.000 This was an insane play that would drive people out of the state.
00:57:24.000 Kathy Hochul at a conference said, We've got to get these people, these rich people, back from Palm Beach.
00:57:31.000 They're leaving.
00:57:32.000 And we got to convince them to come back to New York.
00:57:34.000 Which brings me back to the story of AOC.
00:57:37.000 When Amazon wanted to build this warehouse, they said, We're going to bring something like 20,000 to 30,000 jobs.
00:57:43.000 That's going to boost the economy.
00:57:45.000 All of those people are going to pay income tax to the city, and we're going to pay property tax and corporate tax to the city as well.
00:57:53.000 And AOC, because she's not very smart, and I'm not saying that to be mean, she genuinely believed when the city offered a discount on taxes to Amazon, meaning if Amazon would have owed $10 billion, they said, We will charge you only $7 billion.
00:58:10.000 To come to New York.
00:58:11.000 Amazon said that $3 billion in savings means we still have to pay $7 billion, but that's lower taxes than the other locations we're looking at, so we'll take the deal.
00:58:22.000 AOC claims after the fact, I did nothing to do with this.
00:58:26.000 It wasn't even my district.
00:58:27.000 No, she went down to the protest in the financial district where they were rallying to stop Amazon from coming in, and it helped convince Amazon it's not worth the hassle if people are protesting.
00:58:37.000 So New York didn't get the tax revenue they needed, which would be going to fix the infrastructure right now.
00:58:44.000 For which Zorhan Mamdani says they have a budget shortfall, so we're going to tax property owners or take it from the state.
00:58:50.000 They do this to themselves.
00:58:53.000 Guys, go back and pull that story up about AOC and that protest.
00:58:58.000 And it is fascinating to see now, something like six years on, the ramifications of her insane misunderstanding resulting in real budget crises in New York.
00:59:11.000 This is what you get with commie policy.
00:59:14.000 Well, I mean, it comes down ultimately to does the company that they're seeking to punish, do they like it or not?
00:59:19.000 I mean, that's kind of what it comes down to because a similar project just took place in New York City over by City Field.
00:59:26.000 It's like all chop shops around there.
00:59:27.000 I'm actually kind of sad because I used to go park over there when I go to City Field, and it's like always reliable parking because chop shops, no one wants to get stabbed.
00:59:33.000 And they're bulldozing all of them.
00:59:36.000 And New York City FC, an MLS team that's owned by Manchester City FC, it's been in the news recently because it turns out the Abu Dhabi Sports Group, which owns the team, was.
00:59:46.000 Cooking the books to the tune of like a billion dollars.
00:59:48.000 It's neither here nor there.
00:59:49.000 Decides we're going to build our stadium, you know, across the street from City Field.
00:59:53.000 You know, the tax breaks, you name it.
00:59:55.000 They're leasing the property to a city football group instead of allowing them to buy it, which means they're losing all the property tax revenue on it, et cetera, et cetera.
01:00:04.000 Not a peep, not a peep from any of these people who derailed the Amazon thing because they like, they like, you know, the idea of having a soccer stadium there.
01:00:11.000 But what's funny is the people funding it, it's a foreign investment group.
01:00:15.000 It's the Abu Dhabi investment group when you go up the chain.
01:00:17.000 So it's just like completely.
01:00:19.000 You know, compared to Amazon, where look, I mean, I'm not going to bat for Amazon here necessarily, but at the very least, they're an American company.
01:00:27.000 You know, I mean, you got to at least can't, you know, credit where credit's due.
01:00:29.000 Where, you know, NYCFC, it's the MLS.
01:00:32.000 It's not even like this age old institution like a baseball team, it's like a new startup league from the 90s, you know, et cetera.
01:00:38.000 So it's just completely ridiculous where they pick and choose when to antagonize companies just based off of the fibers.
01:00:43.000 Look, Tate, Tate, I pulled the story up and I have this hammer.
01:00:50.000 I'd like to bash.
01:00:51.000 Myself in the face with having to read this over and over again.
01:00:54.000 I thought you were both.
01:00:55.000 Because this was, I was looks maxing.
01:00:57.000 Yeah.
01:00:57.000 I was looks maxing.
01:00:59.000 You know, learned it from Clavicular.
01:01:01.000 AOC celebrated Amazon pulling out of New York, but the governor says it cost the city 25,000 jobs.
01:01:07.000 And now we're seven years on, and Zorhan Mamdani is saying we have a budget shortfall, and if we don't fill it, we're going to have to tax the working class.
01:01:17.000 So we've got to go after people's properties.
01:01:19.000 We need the state to bail us out.
01:01:21.000 How about you all just blame Alexandria Ocasio Cortez?
01:01:26.000 Now, I know she goes, it's not my district where they were doing the warehouse.
01:01:30.000 No.
01:01:30.000 No, but she is a national level politician with millions of followers who rallied people against Amazon and helped shut this thing down.
01:01:40.000 And now they're suffering because of it.
01:01:42.000 But the problem is this is seven years ago.
01:01:45.000 There's a 24 year old in New York right now who's got their first job.
01:01:51.000 They don't understand why their city is falling apart, why the L train isn't working, and they can't get from hipster Williamsburg into the city for their job.
01:01:59.000 And they hear the politician say it's the rich people's fault.
01:02:02.000 When they were 17 years old and living in the suburbs or outside of New York, they did not know this was happening.
01:02:09.000 And now these people are in the workforce and they're going to vote and they don't understand the woman they are supporting burned their future to the ground.
01:02:19.000 Okay.
01:02:20.000 How do you convey this to the Gen Z people who, for the first time entering politics, don't know this happened?
01:02:25.000 Well, it's kind of a chicken and egg problem here because the 24 year old in New York, He's accustomed to the L train not functioning properly.
01:02:34.000 He doesn't remember, seriously, he doesn't actually remember a time when New York City had functioning infrastructure.
01:02:40.000 And this is what makes like decline so pernicious, is because, you know, we have this idea that eventually people will snap and they'll be like, okay, we got to fix the city.
01:02:48.000 It's not how it works.
01:02:49.000 People kind of get accustomed to how bad things are getting.
01:02:52.000 And then young people come in who are used to that level of, you know, standard of living or whatever.
01:02:56.000 So it can only get worse.
01:02:57.000 So it actually just kind of creates this downward spiral.
01:03:01.000 And then New York City, because they have so much third world migration, You know, they're used to horrible infrastructure.
01:03:06.000 So even a broken L train is like, you know, a miracle to them.
01:03:09.000 So it just creates this like situation where there's really zero accountability for public officials because, once again, younger people accustomed to the rot, newcomers, immigrants, or whatever from the third world, it's already like this is fantastic compared to where they come from.
01:03:23.000 And then the people that get so pissed off because everything's falling apart, they just leave.
01:03:26.000 They move to Florida or North Carolina.
01:03:27.000 The people that you need to bounce AOC from office, all the New Yorkers that, you know, were there on 9 11, et cetera, they're all in North Carolina and Florida now.
01:03:35.000 By and large, I mean, or New Jersey, even.
01:03:37.000 But to Tim's point about, you know, the blaming rich people, that's exactly what AOC was doing.
01:03:43.000 Like, the whole point of that was to stick it to Bezos, right?
01:03:48.000 It was, look, he's a billionaire.
01:03:50.000 He's got all this money.
01:03:52.000 Amazon's such a big company.
01:03:53.000 They treat their workers so bad.
01:03:55.000 All it was was just posing.
01:03:57.000 It was a way for her to stand up and say, look, I'm standing up to the billionaires.
01:04:01.000 We're going to do this because, you know, the billionaires, the mega corporation, Amazon, is getting all this money from New York, which obviously it wasn't.
01:04:09.000 New York wasn't writing a check for them.
01:04:12.000 But that was the narrative, and enough people believed it and made a bunch of noise so Amazon doesn't build it there.
01:04:18.000 And New York suffers because of it.
01:04:20.000 This is something that happens when the left attacks business, and it happens every time you attack business.
01:04:27.000 Businesses create jobs, they create opportunities, they create tax revenue.
01:04:33.000 And when the left goes after businesses and goes after business owners just because they're successful or because they're good at what they do, It hurts the people that are literally there protesting.
01:04:44.000 Those people will feel the ramifications downstream.
01:04:46.000 But again, to our point earlier, we as a society don't think long enough term.
01:04:52.000 And we end up voting and protesting for things that will harm the economy in the long term.
01:04:59.000 Well, it's all like this entire saga was a battle between left wing populace and right wing populace that were dancing around the real issue here because Amazon wasn't a perfect shadow boxing partner for AOC.
01:05:11.000 She could say, well, this is clearly the reason why your city is falling apart.
01:05:14.000 But also, conservatives were also lulled into this idea that Amazon moving to town is actually going to maybe improve the city.
01:05:21.000 And neither are really true.
01:05:22.000 When you look at Queens, I lived there for four years.
01:05:25.000 When you look at Queens and you look at what's actually really holding back people that are from Queens and would like to have a high standard of living that live there, it is the biggest issue immigration.
01:05:34.000 Half the city's foreign born.
01:05:36.000 So, you know, we're in a situation where the native population of the United States is declining, like in sheer numbers.
01:05:42.000 Everyone knows this.
01:05:42.000 Our TFR went negative in the 80s.
01:05:44.000 So, Queens, in theory, the price should be stable or declining.
01:05:48.000 Manhattan, it's always going to be expensive, et cetera.
01:05:51.000 We don't have tenement housing anymore.
01:05:52.000 So, people got to have, you know, one bedroom apartment or whatever.
01:05:55.000 But Queens, it's single family housing from basically once you get past Sunnyside, it's all single family housing by and large.
01:06:01.000 You have some occasional apartment blocks.
01:06:03.000 So, this is a place that should, as the population declines, be getting cheaper andor be an option for people commuting into Manhattan.
01:06:10.000 But it continues to be exorbitantly expensive.
01:06:13.000 Year after year, rent goes up, et cetera.
01:06:15.000 Amazon doesn't solve that.
01:06:17.000 Running Amazon out of town doesn't solve that.
01:06:18.000 We're both shadow boxing in a way.
01:06:20.000 The real issue here is immigration, not keeping crime under control, entire neighborhoods in New York.
01:06:26.000 City are off limits for normal people because the crime's out of control.
01:06:30.000 So we have all these artificial sort of these artificial dynamics that are driving the price up that we should be addressing that.
01:06:37.000 You know, immigration and crime that is like the two things that are keeping rent highest in New York City.
01:06:41.000 So that was what kind of frustrated me about the whole sag.
01:06:44.000 I'm like, we're kind of both dancing around the obvious here, which is, you know, Amazon doesn't really much to do with it.
01:06:48.000 I mean, I agree.
01:06:49.000 I think it's stupid to run them out of town, but I'm also not convinced that Amazon coming to Queens is going to be this golden bullet and solve their problems.
01:06:56.000 You know, once again, half the city's foreign born.
01:06:58.000 I mean, it's crazy.
01:07:00.000 You know, in the 50s and 60s, in the 70s even, well, I mean, not the 70s, but the 50s and 60s, people born and raised in Queens would graduate high school and they'd be able to buy a home in Queens on a single salary.
01:07:12.000 What changed?
01:07:13.000 Was it like we ran out of jobs?
01:07:14.000 No, it actually has little to do with economics.
01:07:16.000 It has to do with the actual demographics of the place changing.
01:07:19.000 Well, it got more dangerous in certain neighborhoods, which made it off limits.
01:07:22.000 You know, Jamaica, Queens, Trump grew up there.
01:07:24.000 Now it's a war zone.
01:07:25.000 And then additionally, all these people from the third world moved into the city.
01:07:28.000 And I do think there's a major cultural component to it as well.
01:07:33.000 All these factors converging.
01:07:35.000 You know, a lot of these lefty activists like to say that the millennials are the first generation who have it worse than the parents before them.
01:07:43.000 And I'm like, yeah, except for the fact that my parents didn't have cell phones or TV.
01:07:49.000 You know, it's like you rented an apartment, there was nothing in it.
01:07:52.000 We have these added expenses, unfortunately, because they become necessities like a cell phone.
01:07:57.000 They're not super expensive, but now you have all these added things you have to pay for.
01:08:01.000 So I think there's also, with Gen Z, They played video games when they were kids where you were gambling.
01:08:08.000 Like you were talking about this the other night.
01:08:10.000 You play these games with loot boxes.
01:08:12.000 And now, what do we see?
01:08:13.000 Gen Z was programmed to chase that double mean hit for sports betting and things like that.
01:08:20.000 We weren't giving a younger generation a message of honor, loyalty, and hard work.
01:08:24.000 We were giving a message of short term gains, gambling, and goofing off.
01:08:28.000 Yeah.
01:08:28.000 Like with young people, and this is a major problem that GOP has.
01:08:33.000 I was talking about it today on Twitter.
01:08:36.000 If young people are underperforming, and let's just say you're making the case it's entirely inherent of their generation, it is a complete cultural thing, something is derailed, there's something wrong with them.
01:08:45.000 That's not an indictment of that generation, that's an indictment of the society that raised them ultimately.
01:08:50.000 Because if you know, I think we could probably all around the table say parenting has declined in quality over the last hundred years.
01:08:56.000 So, again, when Zoomers are you know, there's a high proportion of Zoomers that are LGBT, you know, to use a PC term here, or that are socialist or something like that, you have to ask yourself.
01:09:06.000 Is there something just inherently wrong with this generation, or perhaps there's external factors that created this environment where they're like turning into adults and they're like basically arrested developments?
01:09:16.000 There's the immigration component.
01:09:17.000 That's a large component.
01:09:18.000 But additionally, someone left the watch at some point between the 60s and the 2010s.
01:09:24.000 Every generation got worse.
01:09:26.000 Millennials are permanent children.
01:09:28.000 Gen Z are worse children.
01:09:31.000 I imagine Gen Alpha is going to be worse.
01:09:32.000 Hopefully, Gen Alpha just goes nuts and becomes like super based or something.
01:09:37.000 But millennials are buying toys, right?
01:09:39.000 Was that Toys R Us story?
01:09:40.000 Yeah.
01:09:40.000 Well, millennials are a weird case because millennials are the ones who grew up when the social compact still existed.
01:09:47.000 They became adults, it broke down, and now they're mad.
01:09:49.000 They feel like their inheritance was stolen.
01:09:51.000 Where Zoomers grow up, like I was born in 01, we grew up understanding that the social compact was already broken because we were watching how millennials were operating as young adults.
01:10:00.000 So we entered this dynamic thinking it's all broken anyway.
01:10:03.000 And so you see a high proportion of nihilism among Zoomers.
01:10:06.000 So millennials and Zoomers are slightly different dynamics.
01:10:09.000 Here's the sad reality the American dream, I would define the American dream as you can work hard.
01:10:18.000 Get a house, have a family.
01:10:21.000 Or, like, you know, I hear from a lot of young people, they think the American dream is that you're going to go to college, get a good job, and you're going to be well off.
01:10:29.000 It's like, yo, Americans are all wealthy, even poor Americans.
01:10:32.000 We have fat homeless people.
01:10:33.000 That's right.
01:10:33.000 The American dream, what it meant was back in the day when people came from Europe or whatever, it's like we don't have upward mobility in our country.
01:10:41.000 In the United States, there's an opportunity to work hard.
01:10:44.000 If you work hard, you can succeed.
01:10:46.000 The sad reality is because of this breakdown in social contract, It is still possible to get rich, but it's through dishonorable means.
01:10:53.000 Not always.
01:10:55.000 You can make a great app that solves a problem.
01:10:58.000 The old joke is make an app that can help people be lazy and you'll be a billionaire.
01:11:03.000 So figure out what that is.
01:11:04.000 Make that program.
01:11:05.000 But I watched a video today, and this is a recurring trend now with AI, where there will be a guy who's a juggler.
01:11:14.000 Someone has stolen all of his videos, and AI rendered a big tittied woman in a bikini juggling.
01:11:21.000 Re upload all of those videos so it looks good, and they're getting millions of views and making money now doing nothing.
01:11:27.000 Unscrupulous.
01:11:28.000 They don't care to steal from this person.
01:11:30.000 They're going to sell sex to people.
01:11:32.000 Real easy to make money if you want to be an OnlyFans hoe.
01:11:36.000 You know what I mean?
01:11:36.000 Do things that go be a grifter online, lie to people.
01:11:40.000 There's easy money to be made, and you'll get ahead.
01:11:42.000 The problem is, these are the paths people are choosing.
01:11:45.000 They are making, the younger generation's like, I'm going to get mine.
01:11:49.000 I'm going to get my bag.
01:11:50.000 Who cares?
01:11:51.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the American dream, like we have to cut through all the platitudes that have been offered up over the years to sort of explain what the American dream is.
01:12:00.000 The American dream fundamentally is your quality of living is directly tied to the quality of your labor.
01:12:05.000 That is fundamentally what the American dream is, as in the more intelligent you are, the better you are at your job, or the more you're able to offer society broadly.
01:12:15.000 The output of that will be a standard of living that rewards you for your cunningness or your ability to work hard, et cetera.
01:12:22.000 That started to break down in the last 50 years, and that is why people.
01:12:26.000 Have felt like the American dream has basically been robbed or broken down.
01:12:30.000 Just people can't quite articulate that.
01:12:31.000 But that's fundamentally what the American dream is that your standard of living is directly tied to the quality of life.
01:12:35.000 I don't think that I disagree with that.
01:12:37.000 I think that the American dream is about the ability to actually own property and have your property be yours where you can control it.
01:12:46.000 Because the people that came to the United States, they come here because they're trying to, or at least up until maybe the 60s, they came here because they were trying to escape governments and societies that didn't allow them to control their own destiny.
01:13:00.000 I don't think that the American dream is about how wealthy you are.
01:13:04.000 I think it's about being able to own something and control your own destiny.
01:13:07.000 That's why the fact that people don't have the ability to have one job that pays for a house and a family, that's why it has such an impact on society.
01:13:16.000 When you could work one job, pay for your family, your wife could stay home to raise your kids, and you had a house that was yours, that mattered to the American people.
01:13:25.000 And that, I think, honestly, is what the American dream was.
01:13:28.000 Well, that was my point is that a property should be a byproduct of standard living.
01:13:32.000 That would be part of standard living.
01:13:34.000 So, property, people came here, or people grew up in America, and they didn't expect just to get property handed to them.
01:13:39.000 I mean, some people inherited it, obviously, but people understood.
01:13:42.000 If I put an honest day's work in and the better my output is, the nicer my property's gonna be, whatever.
01:13:50.000 But people understood that ownership of property wasn't just handed to you, it was a result of working hard andor being exceptionally cunning, inventing something.
01:13:58.000 So I mean, I agree that property is like part of the philosophical ethos of the United States, but people tie that to like, okay, well, I worked hard, so I should have a property.
01:14:06.000 That's why Zoomers are so frustrated because the ones that do work hard, I mean, I'll agree there's like obviously a lot of problems culturally with Zoomers, but Zoomers can work hard.
01:14:14.000 They're not necessarily guaranteed they're ever going to own a property, especially if they're a cow.
01:14:17.000 They just got to own it in the middle of nowhere.
01:14:18.000 But you're right.
01:14:19.000 Yeah, I was going to say, you can't have liberty without virtue.
01:14:22.000 That's what Benjamin Rush said, George Washington, John Adams.
01:14:26.000 And I think the American dream, we've turned it into stuff, right?
01:14:32.000 That's not what the American dream is.
01:14:33.000 It's not about stuff.
01:14:34.000 It's not about the house that you own.
01:14:37.000 It's about being able to come and live a life that has liberty that's secured by government so I can pursue what I want to pursue.
01:14:45.000 I may not get those things.
01:14:47.000 And I think we told the world, if you come to America, you'll be rich.
01:14:49.000 I think that's what people assume the American dream is.
01:14:52.000 It's never been about stuff.
01:14:53.000 It's never been about having a nice house or a comfortable living.
01:14:56.000 It's about being able to have a life where I'm free to be able to pursue what I believe God's calling me to pursue.
01:15:01.000 That's what the American dream is.
01:15:03.000 The reason we're failing in America is because we've kicked virtue out.
01:15:08.000 So think about this like, there is no virtue anymore.
01:15:11.000 It's everyone does what's right in their own eyes.
01:15:13.000 That's what it is.
01:15:13.000 Yeah, it's.
01:15:14.000 Oh, go ahead.
01:15:15.000 I was just going to say so without virtue, you can't have liberty.
01:15:17.000 You're going to have people saying, Well, I've been wronged.
01:15:19.000 And well, by who?
01:15:21.000 Well, because the government's not giving me my stuff.
01:15:24.000 Okay, well, that's not virtuous to take stuff.
01:15:26.000 Government doesn't give you stuff, right?
01:15:28.000 That's not a virtuous thing to say.
01:15:30.000 The virtuous thing to say is no, what can I do on my own merit?
01:15:33.000 What can I do on my own work ethic to go out and pursue something?
01:15:36.000 And has government gotten out of my way and protected my liberty to do that?
01:15:39.000 Once you get back to the fundamental value in American history, which is we are a virtuous people, therefore we can be a free people, that's when you'll start seeing.
01:15:48.000 This crap like AOC saying, you know, oh, we should run Amazon out and it's going to have negative effects if we don't have virtue.
01:15:56.000 But the same thing.
01:15:56.000 No, no, no.
01:15:59.000 Everyone, you know, when they enter their career, they're looking to make their mark.
01:16:04.000 There are people who hope to one day be quoted.
01:16:09.000 Something they said mattered and it resonated with a generation.
01:16:13.000 And right now, this is my moment to say that quote that will be copied and pasted and shared.
01:16:21.000 For a millennia.
01:16:22.000 I got the moth.
01:16:23.000 A generation of Americans will know this quote When your economy is based upon women showing their buttholes on the internet, your country has fallen.
01:16:38.000 Well, yeah, I mean, because I think this is like, wrecked out of a t shirt somewhere.
01:16:42.000 Yeah.
01:16:43.000 A nation whose economy is women showing their buttholes on the internet is a nation that has failed.
01:16:49.000 Well, I mean, that's true.
01:16:50.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:16:51.000 Well, this ties in directly because I mean, like, when I'm getting at standard of living, I'm not saying quantified by your net worth.
01:16:56.000 What I'm saying is, the standard of living is, if Phil was hitting on it, which is part of it, is like, I need to know that when I become an adult, I'm going to enter a community that I can participate in, that I'm going to be able to get married, I'm going to be able to have kids, my kids are going to grow up around people that are like them.
01:17:10.000 That is all like wrapped up into a general standard of living.
01:17:12.000 Obviously, some of that's quantifiable through net worth, but some of that is not quantifiable.
01:17:15.000 Like, is my neighborhood safe?
01:17:18.000 Can I find a wife?
01:17:19.000 And with Zoomers, part of the problem is what you're hitting on is, for example, sexuality has been commodified.
01:17:26.000 So now the dating market is a complete disaster.
01:17:29.000 And because women are flaunting themselves on the internet, that's certainly a component of it.
01:17:32.000 Now, Zoomers have a complete inability to participate in the dating market.
01:17:35.000 If I was China, do you know what I would do?
01:17:38.000 I would get a bunch of those dudes.
01:17:40.000 You ever see those videos where they got like 100 cell phones all plugged in and they're all automated, sock puppeting?
01:17:45.000 I would get 10,000 of those accounts if I was China, and I would start dumping money into OnlyFans girls.
01:17:56.000 I would convince a generation of my enemies, women, to be.
01:18:01.000 To be hookers.
01:18:02.000 Well, the problem is that's already happening.
01:18:04.000 That's banned in China.
01:18:05.000 It's not allowed.
01:18:06.000 No, but you know what?
01:18:07.000 That was already read in the congressional record that Russia, the communists were going to do this in America in 1943.
01:18:11.000 The congressional record, 45 tenets of communism.
01:18:14.000 And that was, that was big, that was to normalize rampant sexuality and to make traditional norms go away and accept the extremes.
01:18:23.000 And that's exactly, and, you know, we were told by the Soviets, they told Eisenhower, they said, you won't be a communist, but your children's children will be communists.
01:18:31.000 And we're going to do it by, by, Going after your traditional values.
01:18:36.000 We should subpoena OnlyFans.
01:18:38.000 They should be investigated to see if the subscriptions that are coming through are how much of it is based in foreign countries and particularly adversaries of the United States.
01:18:49.000 I think we're underestimating the degeneracy of the American people.
01:18:52.000 No, I'm not.
01:18:55.000 But I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if it found like 20% of all the money was coming from China or Russia.
01:19:00.000 I mean, we watch Caleb Hammer's show.
01:19:01.000 Every single guy that goes on the show has a bunch of OnlyFans subscriptions.
01:19:04.000 I think.
01:19:05.000 I think the call came from inside the house in this situation.
01:19:08.000 I truly believe that's a cultural problem, and we need to shame these artists.
01:19:12.000 But I think you can say it got started by outside forces because those who knew America knew that we were too strong to be taken down from outside.
01:19:20.000 I think the communists infiltrated, they got the wheels turning, and now we've taken it to the umpth degree on our own.
01:19:27.000 Yeah, but I mean, I think that's true, but this has always been the case through history where outside forces seek to destabilize an adversary.
01:19:34.000 Like, for example, you know, the British imported opium into.
01:19:39.000 To be able to start a war and they got a treaty port out of it.
01:19:41.000 So, I mean, I agree that I do think maybe the inklings were so bad by our adversaries.
01:19:46.000 But I mean, I agree.
01:19:49.000 I mean, certainly.
01:19:50.000 But I think by and large, the American people, like, I'm generally pretty dismissive of claims that our adversaries are making things bad.
01:19:58.000 I'm like, Americans are kind of retarded.
01:20:00.000 New rule for this show anybody who we're going to hire, one of the first questions we ask is, do you have an OnlyFans account?
01:20:09.000 Like, are you paying any OnlyFans?
01:20:13.000 And if you lie to us, you're going to sign your contract.
01:20:15.000 I do not have OnlyFans.
01:20:16.000 I don't have to pay for it.
01:20:18.000 And people who want to come on the show.
01:20:20.000 If you're paying for it, no, get out.
01:20:22.000 Do a Caleb Hammer show before the show.
01:20:25.000 As a pastor, I can say, I do not have an OnlyFans account, nor am I paying for anything on OnlyFans.
01:20:31.000 We should do a Caleb Hammer style pre show, a financial audit for the pre show.
01:20:34.000 I mean, to be fair, I love his show.
01:20:37.000 I didn't watch it before.
01:20:39.000 I didn't watch Caleb Hammer when he was a financial auditor, but I do watch him now when he shames.
01:20:43.000 Leftists.
01:20:45.000 It's fantastic.
01:20:46.000 And it's like he's mocking these people who have OnlyFans.
01:20:49.000 Thank you, sir.
01:20:49.000 I'm like, absolutely.
01:20:50.000 It's fun.
01:20:51.000 When he roasts these people who don't read books or Google search the things they believe.
01:20:51.000 That's awesome.
01:20:55.000 Yeah.
01:20:56.000 Well, and what's so upsetting about the whole thing with pornography?
01:20:58.000 It's like pornography.
01:20:59.000 How do they go on his show?
01:21:01.000 Well, that's, I think he pays them or something.
01:21:03.000 But I hear that.
01:21:04.000 We should do that.
01:21:05.000 I agree.
01:21:06.000 Tim and Tate takedown.
01:21:08.000 That'd be great.
01:21:08.000 I would love to go through people's financial records.
01:21:11.000 No, we don't.
01:21:12.000 No, we literally just be like, what do you spend money on?
01:21:14.000 It's like, you're a loser.
01:21:14.000 And they're like, porn.
01:21:17.000 But the thing is, pornography is nested inside of a much larger issue.
01:21:20.000 The larger issue that needs to be addressed, which probably you can only socially engineer your way out of it, is that sexuality has become commodified.
01:21:27.000 Where, you know, you ban porn, it doesn't actually solve.
01:21:30.000 The main problem here, which is that sexuality in and of itself has become completely commodified.
01:21:35.000 This is where I put on my sort of Christian hat here.
01:21:37.000 I mean, I always have my Christian hat on, but I think Christianity addresses this directly is, you know, sexuality, the Christian's kind of the secret sauce.
01:21:44.000 If you kind of reserve it within the bounds of marriage, it does solve a lot of problems.
01:21:48.000 Because, like, you know, I think that you're kind of seeing it now with the whole Cornell 7 thing is that ultimately people do feel guilty when they sort of, you know, conduct their sexuality outside the bounds of marriage and then they'll look for reasons why.
01:22:04.000 Why I might be feeling guilty, and they'll try to blame it on something.
01:22:06.000 And I'm like, I think the reality is you haven't lived a virtuous lifestyle according to our creator, and now you're living in the consequences of that.
01:22:13.000 So you want to blame society for that.
01:22:15.000 So, absolutely.
01:22:15.000 And I would agree with that wholeheartedly.
01:22:17.000 Studies even show if you follow that biblical lifestyle, you're going to be happier.
01:22:17.000 And you know what?
01:22:24.000 There's the statistics.
01:22:25.000 I mean, those who are walking in a monogamous marriage, right?
01:22:28.000 They have better sex, they have a better, healthier family life, they're genuinely more happy.
01:22:35.000 And fulfilled than anyone else in the.
01:22:38.000 I mean, there's a reason Kurt Cobain killed himself when he was at the pinnacle of his fame, the pinnacle of money, the pinnacle of success, and he still took his own life is because at the end of all of those things, there still is emptiness until you fill it with what our creator told us to fill it with.
01:22:53.000 Yeah.
01:22:53.000 Well, and what's so disturbing about this is generally this is a good practical application, but now because of feminism, a wrench has been thrown in, which is a lot of men get married and then they end up like totally like chained, like they're totally.
01:23:07.000 Just getting like dominated in their marriage.
01:23:09.000 And so, what used to just be like a fix all is like, just dude, just get married and like it's going to be fine.
01:23:14.000 Now, a lot of men are getting married and they're like getting totally whipped by their wives as well.
01:23:18.000 And like, that's what's so alarming is like our society has eroded so much that you don't even have these like safe bets anymore.
01:23:26.000 I mean, I would say following Christ is going to be a safe bet, but if you're going to like quantify that and like step by step advice, there's multiple instances where an external factor can come in and just like totally take that sort of plank out.
01:23:38.000 And that's what's so frustrating is like, you know, you really got to make sure it's not enough just to get married.
01:23:42.000 You got to be sure you're marrying like a sane, normal woman because I think the Lindsey Clancy thing kind of exposed all this.
01:23:48.000 It's like, you could do everything right.
01:23:50.000 You could do everything your pastor says, and then she like looks slimes at your whole family.
01:23:54.000 And you're like, okay, well, what happened here?
01:23:55.000 So I'm not countersaying.
01:23:57.000 I totally agree.
01:23:58.000 I'm just saying like, it's just unfortunate that we can't even necessarily give that as just get married young.
01:24:02.000 It's like, you know, there's a historical precedent for this.
01:24:06.000 Every 80 years, there's a cycle throughout world history.
01:24:08.000 You can see it.
01:24:09.000 Of strong societies that turn into weak societies.
01:24:11.000 And it's this cycle.
01:24:12.000 It's hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.
01:24:20.000 And we are in the cycle of weak men.
01:24:21.000 I mean, this is Strauss-Hout generational theory.
01:24:24.000 Yes, that's right.
01:24:24.000 Yeah.
01:24:25.000 And we are in what's called the fourth turning.
01:24:27.000 It is happening within the next two years.
01:24:30.000 80 years ago, we had the World War II.
01:24:32.000 80 years before that, we had a civil war.
01:24:34.000 80 years before that, we had the revolutionary period.
01:24:36.000 There actually was also, we don't really follow this because it was pre-American history.
01:24:40.000 It was colonial history.
01:24:41.000 But eight years before that, there was also a great crisis with the UK in the 1690s.
01:24:47.000 It was wild.
01:24:47.000 There's a modern articulation of that idea.
01:24:52.000 It's nicotine men create good times, good times create weed guys, weed guys create bad times, bad times create nicotine.
01:24:59.000 I love it, man.
01:25:00.000 I've never heard that one.
01:25:02.000 But to your point, King Philip's War.
01:25:06.000 Yeah, is that what it was?
01:25:07.000 Yeah.
01:25:07.000 17, what?
01:25:08.000 17, what?
01:25:10.000 It was the 1670s.
01:25:12.000 1670s, all right.
01:25:14.000 So it was about 100 years.
01:25:15.000 Well, actually, the American Revolutionary period started in the 1750s, 1760s.
01:25:19.000 Yeah.
01:25:20.000 Wow.
01:25:20.000 Weak men.
01:25:21.000 I was going to tell you, I mean, and that's why the Me Too movement and the Toxic masculinity movement is so dangerous because you're eradicating the one thing that God designed to protect society, which is masculine, strong men who are men that love fiercely.
01:25:37.000 They love their families, they love their wives, their children, they love their communities and their neighbors, and they will be violent and go to war to protect that which they love.
01:25:46.000 Yo, and so, yeah.
01:25:47.000 I'm sorry, real quick.
01:25:48.000 King Philip's War is considered one of the bloodiest conflicts per capita in U.S. history.
01:25:52.000 Wow.
01:25:53.000 And nobody talks about it because it was colonial, it was not American Revolution.
01:25:56.000 Yep.
01:25:57.000 Wow.
01:25:57.000 Yeah, it was the English.
01:25:59.000 Going to war with all the Indian tribes.
01:26:01.000 Yep.
01:26:01.000 I think it was kind of like residue from the French and Indian War and then led to like a sort of unification.
01:26:06.000 To your point, there was just today Hillary Clinton was on Morning Joe talking to Joe and Mika, and she was saying that she was warning against the rise of Christianity.
01:26:17.000 She said that white Christian men are causing such damage to the United States.
01:26:20.000 The idea you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by, let's say it, white men of a certain persuasion, certain religion, certain ideology.
01:26:30.000 It's just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for.
01:26:34.000 I think the way she articulated it is actually good because it is doing damage to what they're aiming for.
01:26:43.000 The it is the response to what the left want to create and the what the left are creating, what they want to create, what they are creating is utter chaos.
01:26:53.000 Well, it's feminism, which is at its root, it is the spirit of Jezebel.
01:26:58.000 If you go back and study the biblical times, the spirit of Jezebel hated strong men, and so I would say.
01:27:04.000 Hillary Clinton is the modern manifestation of that spirit of Jezebel in the flesh in America's in American society.
01:27:11.000 So, yes, she's right.
01:27:13.000 Strong Christian men are a threat to what she believes and everything she stands for.
01:27:18.000 So, yeah, she should be scared because strong Christian men standing up and saying, We are not going to put up with this absolute destructive feminist worldview that you have that you're pushing on America.
01:27:28.000 We're going to fight you at every turn.
01:27:30.000 Yeah, she should be scared.
01:27:31.000 Absolutely.
01:27:31.000 And I'm I'm I tweeted, I retweeted it, and it absolutely.
01:27:37.000 Makes me happy that she goes on shows like Morning Joe and says this stuff because she is literally, she is actually saying the truth, right?
01:27:47.000 Like, strong.
01:27:48.000 Like, I'm not even, like, I'm not really a believer.
01:27:51.000 I'm pretty fairly agnostic.
01:27:53.000 I mean, maybe I'm Catholic.
01:27:54.000 But you believe the principles of that, right?
01:27:56.000 Like, you understand the principles.
01:27:58.000 I call myself Catholic, curious.
01:27:59.000 I was raised a Catholic and I don't have a deep seated, strong faith.
01:28:03.000 But I do think that if you're going to have a society, there has to be foundational things that your society believes.
01:28:10.000 And I think that Christians get it right.
01:28:12.000 That's right.
01:28:12.000 And our history is rooted in Judeo Christian ethics, which is, which has worked really well for all Western society.
01:28:18.000 Now you have things like communism that want to push God out.
01:28:21.000 You have radical Islam that wants to come in and replace Christianity with a Sharia law, you know, death cult.
01:28:28.000 And they are not shy about their religion, they are not shy about enforcing their norms on other people.
01:28:35.000 And when Hillary Clinton sees the Islamists coming in and the radical Muslims who want to push this down our throats, they celebrate that.
01:28:42.000 They're saying, oh, we'll come on in, which is the wildest thing because Sharia law, Islam, Totally subjugates women.
01:28:48.000 I mean, it completely takes away any progressive feminist movement freedom that they've fought for over the last 60 years.
01:28:56.000 So it's kind of wild, but it's two demonic forces aligning so that they can tear down the one thing that they know would protect American freedom and our children's children, and that is strong men standing on Christian values.
01:29:07.000 Yeah.
01:29:08.000 I mean, it's the Red Green Alliance.
01:29:10.000 It's exactly what happened in Iran.
01:29:13.000 It's the reason why we are dealing with the situation in Iran today is because of that.
01:29:18.000 And As much as the left refuses to acknowledge it, they will be absolutely crushed should they get their way.
01:29:27.000 The progressives, they don't have any way to defend against the Islamists, the Muslim ideology.
01:29:37.000 They don't have any way to defend against it because their entire worldview is wrapped up in the idea that Islam and Muslims are an oppressed minority, even though they're not.
01:29:48.000 Their entire ideology is wrapped up in Islam is an oppressed minority.
01:29:52.000 And so.
01:29:53.000 We can't tell them no.
01:29:55.000 And because they don't possess the ability to tell them no, should they get into power, they will be wiped out just like they were in Iran.
01:30:02.000 That's right.
01:30:03.000 And honestly, the UK needs to hear this too.
01:30:06.000 They need to understand that if they continue down the path that they're on in 30, 40 years, the UK will be an assassin.
01:30:14.000 It won't even take that long.
01:30:15.000 I mean, I think they're already gone.
01:30:16.000 I mean, I don't know if there is any hope for the UK.
01:30:18.000 I mean, seeing what I'm seeing now, they've given themselves over, and the strong men of the UK have either fled or.
01:30:25.000 Have been pushed, have been subjugated themselves.
01:30:28.000 So, yeah, I think we are in a battle.
01:30:30.000 And you're right, absolutely, Phil, where this is the Red Green Alliance playing out all over again.
01:30:34.000 It worked really well in Iran.
01:30:35.000 If you go back and read news articles in the 70s about the Shah in Iran, or when they were tearing down the Shah, right?
01:30:41.000 The communists tore down the Shah, and then the caliphate came in and established.
01:30:45.000 They were saying of Ayatollah Khomeini back in the 70s, mid 70s, he was going to be a champion for women's rights.
01:30:50.000 That's ridiculous.
01:30:51.000 Which is hilarious.
01:30:51.000 The guy we just killed, we sent a Scud missile up his backside a few months ago.
01:30:55.000 Like this guy was being championed as a women's rights activist.
01:31:00.000 He gets into power.
01:31:00.000 He lets the communists do the hard work of tearing down the Shah and the traditions, the walls that protected the Persian people for many generations.
01:31:08.000 Now, the Shah wasn't necessarily a good guy.
01:31:10.000 He was corrupt and greedy, but he wasn't a tyrant like what you saw the Ayatollah become.
01:31:15.000 And then they push him out.
01:31:16.000 The communists pushed out the Shah.
01:31:18.000 There's a vacuum.
01:31:19.000 And wouldn't you know it, the radical Islamists come in.
01:31:22.000 And then they march the communists out in the street a few weeks later and shoot them all.
01:31:25.000 And I mean, most people know this, or at least they have a sense of this.
01:31:25.000 Yeah.
01:31:30.000 Iran used to be a Western-styled country.
01:31:33.000 Same thing in Afghanistan.
01:31:34.000 You can look at pictures of Afghanistan in the 70s before the revolution there.
01:31:40.000 It was on track to be a Western-style country, and it wouldn't be basically a basket case nation like it is today had they not been overtaken by an Islamist government.
01:31:52.000 I don't know how it's here.
01:31:53.000 I don't know what other parts of the country, but I can tell you in Indiana, when I'm talking to legislators or people in government and I'm saying, hey, listen, Islam is the greatest internal threat.
01:32:03.000 That we have right now that we're dealing with, they say, oh, well, it's not really that bad.
01:32:08.000 Oh, they're not very, there's not many of them.
01:32:11.000 Oh, like they could never, Sharia law could never replace constitutional law.
01:32:15.000 And I'm like, man, people are so short sighted.
01:32:17.000 They don't know history.
01:32:18.000 They don't know modern history.
01:32:19.000 And they certainly don't know the last 1400 years of what Islam has done to what the Western civilization.
01:32:25.000 And they're here to destroy everything we believe in.
01:32:28.000 And I don't know what we have to do to wake these people up.
01:32:31.000 Are they just ignorant of history?
01:32:33.000 Are they just like this idea of being blissful because of their ignorance?
01:32:37.000 I have no idea.
01:32:38.000 But we've got to sound the alarm and say, guys, by the time you realize the danger with Islam is by the time you realize it's a problem, it's too late.
01:32:47.000 They've got their foot on your throat and you're dead.
01:32:49.000 I mean, look, there is example after example after example throughout all of the Middle East of countries, and not only the Middle East, but Asia as well.
01:32:58.000 Countries that used to be, you know, what you would consider on track to be a Western country that have turned into countries that are no longer that way.
01:33:07.000 And even if you look at like Saudi Arabia, right?
01:33:11.000 They kicked all of the hardliners and all the extremists out.
01:33:13.000 And there are people in Saudi Arabia, there are people in the UAE, in the government that warn Europe and they warn the West.
01:33:21.000 They're like, Get rid of the Muslim Brotherhood.
01:33:23.000 Get rid of these organizations.
01:33:25.000 We don't have the problems of, you know, radical Islam because we throw these people in jail.
01:33:33.000 Yeah.
01:33:34.000 And Europe is not listening.
01:33:36.000 The UK is not listening.
01:33:37.000 And for the people in the back that are listening, please understand when people say, well, freedom of religion in America, Islam is not a religion.
01:33:45.000 It's a political and military ideology masquerading as a religion to take advantage of our liberties here and our suicidal empathy that Americans oftentimes, you know, Put out to the world so quickly.
01:33:58.000 So, Islam is not a religion.
01:34:00.000 It is a political and military ideology that is hostile to the West.
01:34:04.000 It's hostile to everything we believe and hold true in America.
01:34:08.000 And if we don't see that and stop it before it gets a foothold, my fear is it's going to be too late.
01:34:13.000 Yeah.
01:34:14.000 Yeah, I think we have a lot of like various ethnic sort of enclaves that have sort of formed in the United States that are all vying for power.
01:34:22.000 I think Muslims are certainly a component of that.
01:34:24.000 I think what's not talked about by Republicans enough is Hindus.
01:34:27.000 I mean, Indians.
01:34:28.000 At large, especially Hindus, also engage in this kind of ethnic nepotism.
01:34:33.000 You can see it in the H 1B data.
01:34:35.000 I mean, it's so obvious what's going on here.
01:34:37.000 And I mean, that's why I think Beau French was fantastic to call it out because it really struck a nerve because all of a sudden you saw a lot of Republicans who correctly chest beat about Muslim migration.
01:34:46.000 Again, correctly.
01:34:47.000 Like, I agree.
01:34:48.000 I support a Muslim ban, remigration, et cetera.
01:34:51.000 But also, we got to address all these problems because we're seeing the same things with, again, Indian immigrants and their descendants also engaging in a lot of the same behaviors.
01:34:59.000 Granted, they're not going to go blow up a city bus or anything like that.
01:35:01.000 But The long term damage to the country is still there.
01:35:04.000 I think the priority ultimately really needs to be putting Americans first and like actually determining what an American is first.
01:35:10.000 And then I think that you hit the Tate, you hit it on the head.
01:35:13.000 Determining what an American is that's the problem.
01:35:16.000 You go to any ridiculously expensive, you know, valueless Ivy League school and you ask any professor to say, Can you please identify what being an American is?
01:35:28.000 What is our core value system?
01:35:30.000 What are our core beliefs?
01:35:31.000 Like, what do we.
01:35:32.000 And I think you're going to get a thousand different answers.
01:35:34.000 I think they will all be radically away from the truth of what we really are.
01:35:39.000 And so we've got to redefine who we are as Americans.
01:35:42.000 Not redefine it in the sense that we're making up new definitions, but go back, take back what the culture has stolen, say, no, we're going back to the beginning.
01:35:49.000 What did our founders believe being American actually meant?
01:35:53.000 And then if you come here and if you immigrate here, do it legally and assimilate into our culture.
01:35:59.000 Because immigration without assimilation is invasion.
01:36:02.000 And we have let a lot of people invade our country because they're not assimilating.
01:36:05.000 Well, Beau French pointed out.
01:36:06.000 I think we see, and I loved what he said, and I shared it.
01:36:09.000 Like, he's pointing out, this is not assimilation.
01:36:13.000 Yeah, they're all hanging out together.
01:36:14.000 I'm like, where are, where's the, where's this beautiful melting pot picture?
01:36:19.000 This did not look like a melting pot.
01:36:20.000 It looked like we had just totally been taken over by a completely different culture.
01:36:25.000 And, and where, what happened?
01:36:26.000 Yeah, it was a salad with a giant tomato in it.
01:36:28.000 That's what was going on.
01:36:30.000 Yeah, I, I hate tomatoes.
01:36:31.000 I know.
01:36:31.000 I like tomatoes.
01:36:32.000 Well, that's so true.
01:36:33.000 Uh, and the what is, the what is an American thing?
01:36:35.000 We don't even need to do like any, like, Introspect.
01:36:35.000 Super easy.
01:36:38.000 I mean, I know I like doing it, but we don't necessarily need to do all this like introspection.
01:36:41.000 We just have to ask Japanese people.
01:36:43.000 And the Japanese are like, oh, like Mike Trout, you look like that.
01:36:46.000 It's very easy.
01:36:47.000 Just go ask the Japanese, like, what's an American?
01:36:49.000 They put it in their video games.
01:36:49.000 And they'll tell you.
01:36:51.000 There's a lot of things we should ask the Japanese and act on their advice.
01:36:54.000 The Japanese are like, why did they start bringing in third world migrants?
01:36:58.000 Yeah.
01:36:59.000 Oh, I don't know if we can chess speed.
01:37:00.000 They've brought in like 10,000.
01:37:01.000 We've brought in millions.
01:37:03.000 I mean, they should.
01:37:03.000 I know.
01:37:03.000 I know.
01:37:04.000 That's asking them, like, yeah.
01:37:05.000 Why would you.
01:37:06.000 They already elected a really national.
01:37:06.000 They're stopping it.
01:37:07.000 It's because their birth rate is so ridiculously low.
01:37:09.000 Yeah.
01:37:10.000 But they, but like, it took like 10,000 third world migrants, which is like a drop in the bucket for 127 million people.
01:37:15.000 For them to elect like a full blown nationalist who's like, we're not letting a single one back in.
01:37:20.000 So the Japanese like lock in.
01:37:21.000 I have a lot, you know, I've made the point, I think Japan's the only Western nation left when you really truly think, when you truly think about what it means to be Western, the Japanese are.
01:37:29.000 And, and I mean, they're hardcore about it.
01:37:31.000 Yeah.
01:37:32.000 I mean, the new lady comes in and she's like, oh, Mario and Luigi are foreign.
01:37:32.000 Well, yeah.
01:37:35.000 Get them out of here.
01:37:38.000 Let's go.
01:37:39.000 Let's go.
01:37:40.000 And it was so fun.
01:37:40.000 Oh, so funny where like Trump, like I guess he maybe, I don't know, but he like didn't understand like Pearl Harbor is like a really touchy subject.
01:37:47.000 There.
01:37:47.000 So he was like, you know, like these surprise attacks, like the prime minister of Japan with Pearl Harbor, you know, and he's like saying, you know, great work.
01:37:55.000 He's almost like complimenting him, and she's like, disturbed.
01:37:58.000 It's so funny, dude.
01:37:59.000 Oh, man, I loved it.
01:38:01.000 I love President Trump.
01:38:02.000 You know, and there were a lot of Japanese people on X that were like, that were actually appreciative of his making a joke about it like that because it, to them, at least the way that they were articulating on X, they were like, look, it makes it okay for us to address this now.
01:38:02.000 Yeah.
01:38:18.000 It's something that we don't want to talk about, or the Japanese people had built on it.
01:38:21.000 They're not irony poisoned there.
01:38:23.000 Like, here, we can't take anything seriously.
01:38:25.000 They don't have that.
01:38:26.000 So they're like, well, Pearl Harbor must be really sensitive for them.
01:38:28.000 Why are they joking about it?
01:38:29.000 We're like, did we joke about 9 11?
01:38:31.000 Did you imagine, though, if Japan was like, hey, maybe it's not a good idea to attack an American military base?
01:38:36.000 Let's just not do that.
01:38:37.000 Maybe not.
01:38:38.000 Then basically all of East Asia would just be Japan?
01:38:43.000 Yeah, no, that's a very true.
01:38:45.000 Oh, shoot.
01:38:48.000 Yeah, it's a huge, huge.
01:38:49.000 Huge thing with the Japanese where they refuse to apologize for anything, which is like fine, that's their prerogative.
01:38:54.000 But the Koreans, where the South Koreans and the Japanese should like literally be on the same page about everything because they have an adversary right there.
01:39:01.000 But they still like every three years, like a row happens diplomatically and they get really mad that Japan won't apologize for the comfort women and all that.
01:39:08.000 Really fascinating.
01:39:09.000 The Japanese, like, dude, they just that's why they, if you read the media around the time, I was talking about pre show when Obama went over there and like apologized for the nuclear bombs, which was like the gayest thing ever.
01:39:18.000 The Japanese were like, what is he doing?
01:39:20.000 Like, what's wrong with this?
01:39:21.000 Because the Japanese recognize.
01:39:23.000 What actually happened after World War II, the blessing of liberty actually came to their shores because we're the only nation that says we will go to war with you, but after you surrender and after we make peace, we will help you rebuild in a way that actually benefits your society.
01:39:39.000 I mean, no other nation does that.
01:39:41.000 We just say, hey, give us enough space to bury our dead that we fought, and now we want to help you be set free and experience liberty.
01:39:50.000 I dream of a Starbucks on every corner in Tehran.
01:39:56.000 The American dream.
01:39:57.000 The American dream is going to be McDonald's, Hard Rock cafes, Gucci's, and casinos.
01:40:02.000 Well, because the cultures that emerge out of the countries that we are victorious against are always vastly different than the pre war culture.
01:40:11.000 You think about the Germans, you think about the Japanese.
01:40:13.000 I mean, you can look across the board of all of our people that we've defeated.
01:40:17.000 Do you know?
01:40:17.000 I wonder what's going to, if we beat Iran, what does Iran anime look like?
01:40:23.000 I don't know.
01:40:23.000 What does Iranian Pikachu look like?
01:40:25.000 Persian Pikachu.
01:40:27.000 Persian Pikachu is really fascinating to think about.
01:40:29.000 Do you know the story of the Yata song?
01:40:32.000 No.
01:40:32.000 Japanese song?
01:40:33.000 Yata?
01:40:36.000 It's a big meme.
01:40:38.000 So apparently, post war generations were depressed and miserable.
01:40:43.000 Young men in Japan were hopeless.
01:40:45.000 There was nothing to look forward to.
01:40:47.000 And this song came out called Hooray, Yata in Japanese.
01:40:51.000 And it was like lifting people's spirits up because they were like killing themselves like crazy, just with hopelessness.
01:40:56.000 Well, the Ministry of Culture in Japan, they have a Ministry of Culture, which I guess would be their equivalent of like some sort of like soft power exercising or whatever.
01:41:04.000 They, after the war, were like, everyone thinks we're like, You know, samurais and stuff.
01:41:08.000 So, we need to like soften our image.
01:41:10.000 They think about kamikaze.
01:41:11.000 So, they're like, okay, we got to get everyone into a room and we got to like figure out how we can soften our image to the world.
01:41:11.000 We think about Japan.
01:41:16.000 You know, it makes a lot of sense.
01:41:17.000 You don't want to be viewed as like still the big bad Japanese empire.
01:41:21.000 So, they came up with Hello Kitty.
01:41:22.000 Hello Kitty was quite literally like pushed by the Ministry of Culture to soften, you know, and it's funny because Dave Chappelle had a bit and it was like a funny bit that he came up completely independently, but he hit the nail on the head of this, what I'm talking about, where he had a joke where he said, you know, we bombed the masculinity out of him.
01:41:36.000 Like, we dropped two nuclear bombs.
01:41:38.000 He was sort of drawing Hello Kitty.
01:41:39.000 And it's like, actually, he's completely correct.
01:41:41.000 That's exactly what happened.
01:41:42.000 They said, we're too masculine.
01:41:44.000 Like, people think like Mashima and stuff when they think about Japan, which Mashima is kind of based.
01:41:48.000 He's separate from the whole fascist thing, kind of.
01:41:52.000 Anyway, the Ministry of Culture was like, okay, we got to soften our image up.
01:41:56.000 So let's push the other kid.
01:41:57.000 So it's funny that Dave Chappelle, like, incorrectly was giving the correct history of what happened there.
01:42:02.000 Well, I mean, it counters more like.
01:42:03.000 You know, the funny thing about anime is, like, every character's white.
01:42:07.000 Yeah, basically.
01:42:07.000 Like, Naruto, it's like one of the most popular anime in a long time.
01:42:09.000 It's a blonde-haired, blue-eyed kid.
01:42:11.000 Japanese are white.
01:42:12.000 Yeah.
01:42:12.000 Yeah, the Japanese.
01:42:13.000 That's not what I mean.
01:42:14.000 I said this in Phil and got some friends.
01:42:15.000 I'm saying, like, Sailor Moon is blonde and blue.
01:42:16.000 You almost look Japanese a little bit.
01:42:18.000 I mean, just when the.
01:42:19.000 I am Japanese.
01:42:19.000 Are you?
01:42:20.000 I'm 5%.
01:42:21.000 20% Korean.
01:42:23.000 10% luck, 20% skill, 50% power oil.
01:42:28.000 That's true.
01:42:29.000 That's correct.
01:42:30.000 5% Japanese and what?
01:42:32.000 95% West Virginia.
01:42:34.000 95% Korean.
01:42:35.000 95% love of the game.
01:42:36.000 Then a bunch of random European, American.
01:42:39.000 Nonsense.
01:42:40.000 Did you do, like, how do you know this?
01:42:42.000 Are you just guessing or did you actually.
01:42:43.000 No, no.
01:42:44.000 My grandmother's from Korea.
01:42:45.000 Oh, you didn't do 23andMe?
01:42:46.000 No, no, no, no.
01:42:46.000 Yeah.
01:42:47.000 My mom did.
01:42:48.000 My grandmother's literally from Korea.
01:42:48.000 Okay.
01:42:50.000 Okay, cool.
01:42:50.000 And so my grandmother was 20% Japanese.
01:42:54.000 Okay.
01:42:55.000 Which has implications if anyone understands what that means.
01:42:58.000 You get free school?
01:42:59.000 I don't know.
01:43:00.000 No, it means the Korean women weren't intentionally becoming Japanese.
01:43:03.000 Ah, gotcha.
01:43:04.000 Just pretend it was a Romeo and Juliet situation.
01:43:06.000 That's what I'm saying because we had a super chat once and they were like, how dare you dishonor Japanese people?
01:43:06.000 Yeah.
01:43:10.000 They did nothing wrong.
01:43:11.000 And I was like, guys, I'm not going to pretend that like some Japanese guy and some Korean woman had a forbidden love and eloped.
01:43:19.000 Like, It was probably war rape.
01:43:22.000 So there you go.
01:43:22.000 Yeah.
01:43:23.000 My grandparents were missionaries to Japan after World War II.
01:43:26.000 So they were men of that missionaries.
01:43:27.000 My mom was born in Tokyo.
01:43:29.000 Oh, wow.
01:43:29.000 Yeah.
01:43:29.000 So they were on the north side of, they did missionary work on the North Island, which is Hokkaido.
01:43:35.000 And a little village called Hombetsu is where they lived.
01:43:38.000 My great grandfather is from what would now be North Korea.
01:43:42.000 At the time, it wasn't North or South Korea.
01:43:44.000 It was just Korea.
01:43:44.000 Okay.
01:43:44.000 Just Korea, yeah.
01:43:45.000 My great grandfather, he lived in Okinawa.
01:43:47.000 He was fighting, he was in a war.
01:43:49.000 People don't understand, Okinawa is like deep.
01:43:52.000 Deep far south from Japan.
01:43:54.000 It's like Japan's Hawaii.
01:43:55.000 I met a Japanese guy one time.
01:43:56.000 I was like, My great grandfather lived there.
01:43:58.000 And he's like, Really?
01:43:58.000 And I was like, Yeah, he was killing you guys.
01:44:00.000 Yeah, that was so easy.
01:44:02.000 He was killing you guys.
01:44:03.000 It was like Starbucks.
01:44:05.000 He wasn't.
01:44:06.000 He was an engineer, for the record.
01:44:07.000 I don't ever get offended by any of this history stuff.
01:44:11.000 Yeah.
01:44:12.000 I mean, but real quick, I did find out I was Japanese because of my mom's 23 and me.
01:44:12.000 Yeah.
01:44:18.000 Because we didn't know my grandma was part Japanese.
01:44:20.000 She was a Korean woman from Korea.
01:44:21.000 But then it's like, Oh, would you look at that?
01:44:21.000 Okay.
01:44:23.000 You know, okay, that's cool.
01:44:25.000 Now, did you say that they would have been in North Korea?
01:44:27.000 Or my great grandmother would have been in South, my great grandfather was in North.
01:44:31.000 Okay.
01:44:32.000 Yeah.
01:44:32.000 Wow.
01:44:33.000 Wow.
01:44:33.000 Yeah.
01:44:34.000 But there was no North and South back then.
01:44:34.000 Wow.
01:44:35.000 Yeah.
01:44:36.000 No idea.
01:44:36.000 It was just a bunch of farmers.
01:44:37.000 Yeah.
01:44:38.000 Yeah.
01:44:39.000 Yeah.
01:44:40.000 And again, going back to just kind of, if we knew history, this communist uprising in America would, I mean, people could just look at North Korea.
01:44:47.000 I mean, look what communism gets you.
01:44:49.000 Just fly over North Korea at night, you know, do a.
01:44:52.000 Nah, nah, nah.
01:44:53.000 Have you ever listened to Greta Thunberg?
01:44:55.000 North Korea is communist paradise.
01:44:57.000 You live in the woods.
01:44:57.000 That's right.
01:44:58.000 You have no food.
01:45:00.000 There's no animals to eat.
01:45:01.000 I'm not even joking.
01:45:02.000 I guess that is true.
01:45:03.000 She really says that?
01:45:04.000 Greta Thunberg said several years ago, she says, We don't want to wait till 2030.
01:45:04.000 She does not.
01:45:09.000 We want to end fossil fuels today.
01:45:11.000 Yeah, I knew that.
01:45:12.000 Yeah, she wants to live like these lefties want to live like North Korea.
01:45:15.000 That's crazy.
01:45:15.000 They want communism.
01:45:16.000 They don't want the electricity.
01:45:18.000 They want green.
01:45:19.000 They don't want climate change.
01:45:20.000 All of this.
01:45:21.000 They don't know history, and that's the problem.
01:45:22.000 I mean, they really don't.
01:45:24.000 And actually, they're not even looking around the world right now.
01:45:27.000 They don't know modern events.
01:45:28.000 Yeah, modern events, right?
01:45:29.000 Yeah.
01:45:29.000 Current events.
01:45:30.000 That's true.
01:45:31.000 Yep.
01:45:31.000 Oh, yeah, like the AOC thing.
01:45:32.000 It's a perfect example.
01:45:34.000 You know what?
01:45:35.000 I was just talking to some friends.
01:45:37.000 And I'm just like, no one gets to vote anymore.
01:45:39.000 No one gets to vote.
01:45:39.000 Yep.
01:45:40.000 I saw a part, there's this video of these people in DC having a pro data center party.
01:45:44.000 And I'm like, it's just so stupid.
01:45:46.000 Like, you're allowed to be in favor of data centers.
01:45:47.000 Y'all are not like them.
01:45:48.000 It's just whatever.
01:45:49.000 But like, to throw a party that's like, we love data centers, it's like, sure.
01:45:54.000 But then protesters showed up and they were like, they're stealing our water.
01:45:57.000 And I'm like, oh my God.
01:46:00.000 Kevin O'Leary wanted to build a bunch of data centers in the middle of the desert.
01:46:00.000 People don't.
01:46:04.000 And they protested that.
01:46:05.000 Yeah.
01:46:05.000 They're not protesting anything.
01:46:08.000 It's just they're mad.
01:46:10.000 And you say, I got a solution for you.
01:46:11.000 And they go, I don't want a solution.
01:46:12.000 I want to be mad.
01:46:13.000 It looks like they're voting for five year olds.
01:46:15.000 Yeah.
01:46:16.000 But they vote.
01:46:16.000 Yeah.
01:46:17.000 Which is crazy.
01:46:17.000 Yeah.
01:46:18.000 They shouldn't vote.
01:46:19.000 Yeah.
01:46:20.000 I wish we could do sort of a constitutional litmus test before people get their voting registration card.
01:46:26.000 Nobody votes.
01:46:27.000 Yeah.
01:46:28.000 In my opinion, we need to shrink the number of voters down to a few million in total.
01:46:34.000 There's, there's, there's, we were talking about this the other day with Ian.
01:46:36.000 There's no way.
01:46:38.000 The issue is, you don't need votes, you don't need laws, you don't need police when you have a morally and culturally homogenous people.
01:46:47.000 So, the example that I like to give is you said you're a pastor.
01:46:49.000 Yeah.
01:46:51.000 If everybody in this country, 100%, were devout Christians, you would not need police.
01:46:56.000 Yeah.
01:46:56.000 You'd need civil court because disagreements happen.
01:46:58.000 Yeah.
01:46:59.000 But you wouldn't need any codified law because everybody would be living by their moral tradition, which is in Christianity.
01:47:07.000 You'd have civil law, codified law for civil issues because.
01:47:12.000 You can be morally virtuous and still dispute a property line.
01:47:16.000 And you would need probably facilitators for that.
01:47:19.000 But you're not going to need a guy to chase down a gangbanger who just shot a bunch of people.
01:47:26.000 Don't get me wrong.
01:47:26.000 I am being hyperbolic because obviously, like, a dispute over property could result in two morally virtuous people fighting.
01:47:32.000 Yeah.
01:47:33.000 No, and you're right.
01:47:35.000 When you see faith increase, you'll see crime go down, right?
01:47:38.000 And just the Christian ethic will naturally push those things in society that are ills.
01:47:44.000 They'll kind of make them obsolete to some extent.
01:47:46.000 But I will say this we're always going to have crap because of the sin nature, the fallen state of man until Christ returns someday.
01:47:55.000 I mean, so God's ordained way was to have government that did not bear the sword in vain.
01:48:00.000 I mean, that's even when all the people, I mean, this was given, this was even back in the wilderness with Moses, all the people were technically God's people, right?
01:48:09.000 They all said, hey, we're Israelites.
01:48:10.000 Hey, we recognize Yahweh as the one true God.
01:48:13.000 There was still crime and there were still problems.
01:48:15.000 There had to be justice carried out.
01:48:17.000 And so, and this is where the Hebrew Republic was birthed out of when Moses was told by his father in law, hey, establish the thousands, the hundreds, the fifties, the tens, because you can't do it all, because people were coming to him saying, hey, civilly, we need you to adjudicate something, Moses.
01:48:29.000 But then there was also criminal stuff that was going on that needed to happen.
01:48:32.000 So I interviewed Dave, the Flat Earth guy.
01:48:35.000 The Earth is flat.
01:48:35.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:48:36.000 Yeah.
01:48:36.000 He also, on the Culture War back in the day when we were doing these debates, we had a geocentrist, a standard modern astrophysics guy, as well as a Flat Earther on.
01:48:47.000 I said to Dave, I am not so egotistically attached to belief that I get offended if you believe something that I think is wrong.
01:48:54.000 Yeah.
01:48:54.000 And I was just thinking as you said this, I was like, it is unfortunate.
01:48:58.000 I'm not a Christian.
01:48:59.000 I'm not going to pretend to be.
01:49:00.000 But it is unfortunate that so many lefty, secular, and atheist types haven't even considered what their life would be like under Christian moral ethics, or because it largely is still in the United States, or how their lives could be improved by it.
01:49:16.000 Yeah, totally.
01:49:17.000 Yeah, you're 100% right, Tim.
01:49:18.000 I mean, I tell people when they say, Oh, don't push your religion down my throat.
01:49:22.000 I'm not pushing my religion down my throat.
01:49:24.000 I just believe there's something better for you out there.
01:49:26.000 Like, I want your life to improve.
01:49:28.000 And I just think there's something over here that will help your life.
01:49:31.000 Drastically improve.
01:49:33.000 I believe that there's a creator.
01:49:34.000 Well, first of all, our Declaration of Independence says there's a creator.
01:49:37.000 I believe what the founders knew to be true, which is there's a God.
01:49:39.000 None of us are Him.
01:49:40.000 Let's look to Him.
01:49:41.000 But I believe this God isn't just a creator that says, hey, I created you.
01:49:44.000 Now just live and let live.
01:49:46.000 I believe this creator says, hey, I love you more than you could ever even imagine.
01:49:51.000 I know you better than you know yourself.
01:49:53.000 And I have something so awesome in store for you.
01:49:55.000 And I want to give that to you.
01:49:56.000 And when people find that, it's like it becomes life giving.
01:49:59.000 Well, that's the philosophy.
01:50:02.000 That's the theology.
01:50:03.000 That's the spiritual.
01:50:03.000 That's the faith.
01:50:04.000 That is the transcendent.
01:50:05.000 Yeah.
01:50:06.000 Even beyond that, I'm saying like your houses would be cheaper.
01:50:10.000 That's right.
01:50:10.000 You'd have less murder.
01:50:12.000 Yeah.
01:50:12.000 You'd work less.
01:50:14.000 Like the practical life you live would be improved with a strong moral foundation.
01:50:17.000 100%.
01:50:18.000 And again, that's, you know, Thomas Paine was a great, great founder.
01:50:22.000 He was an atheist.
01:50:23.000 He was an atheist.
01:50:24.000 He did not believe in faith that it was real to him.
01:50:28.000 He was an atheist.
01:50:29.000 However, he recognized that these principles of Christian values, if the American Republic rests on these principles, it would make his life better.
01:50:38.000 His family's life is better, his neighbor's life is better.
01:50:40.000 You don't have to be a Christian going to church, taking communion every single week to benefit when good ethics are the foundation of your society.
01:50:49.000 But we have diversity now.
01:50:51.000 That's right, yeah.
01:50:52.000 You've got one enclave in, say, Insert City, where Democrats have imported an enclave.
01:50:59.000 I'm not going to single any group out.
01:51:01.000 But their moral tradition says that they can, say, give surgery to young girls.
01:51:06.000 Right, yeah, mutilation.
01:51:07.000 And they're like, nothing's wrong with that.
01:51:09.000 And then we're like shocked and appalled by it.
01:51:11.000 And now you've got in the United States, you've got China operating private police departments.
01:51:15.000 You've got Sharia patrols.
01:51:17.000 You've got, what is it, Mosaic Law patrols?
01:51:20.000 You have like Jewish groups that go around.
01:51:21.000 Yeah.
01:51:22.000 It's crazy.
01:51:22.000 It's like, what are we doing?
01:51:24.000 Yeah.
01:51:24.000 And so I was doing a town hall.
01:51:26.000 I do all these town halls around the state of Indiana.
01:51:28.000 I love doing just open mics, right?
01:51:29.000 Like, hey, come on out.
01:51:30.000 I get the leftists to come out in droves, these anti God communists.
01:51:33.000 I mean, it's amazing.
01:51:33.000 I love it.
01:51:35.000 And so they'll come out.
01:51:36.000 This one lady, we were in this like upper class Donut County, this little town called Zionsville, just outside of Indianapolis.
01:51:43.000 And it's just like leftist hub of, you know, Woke, you know, Karens.
01:51:46.000 And so this one Karen came out and she was ripping on me.
01:51:49.000 She stands up to the microphone.
01:51:51.000 She said, Get your God out of our government.
01:51:52.000 Get religion out.
01:51:53.000 We don't want anything to do with faith.
01:51:54.000 I said, Okay, fine.
01:51:55.000 But who are you going to replace him with?
01:51:56.000 What religion and what God will you replace him with?
01:51:59.000 She was like, That's crazy.
01:52:00.000 We don't need a God.
01:52:00.000 I said, Okay, hold on a second.
01:52:02.000 Every nation has a God.
01:52:03.000 The only question is, who is it?
01:52:05.000 When you figure out that that God of that nation says this is good and this is bad, every nation has one, then you build your laws based on whatever that God says.
01:52:13.000 And I said, So you go to Iran.
01:52:15.000 They say that throwing LGBTQ members off of buildings is a good thing and their laws allow it.
01:52:21.000 I said to her, Do you think that's a good thing?
01:52:23.000 And she looked at me and she was like, Well, no, that's terrible.
01:52:24.000 I said, But who says?
01:52:26.000 You go over there and tell them they're wrong, they're going to say, No, you're wrong.
01:52:29.000 Who's right?
01:52:30.000 And I said, That's the problem, ma'am.
01:52:31.000 When you remove God, you remove any moral lawgiver, and everyone's objective truth becomes their reality, and anyone can do whatever they want to do.
01:52:38.000 Here's my response to these lefties.
01:52:40.000 So they say, Get your God out of our government, right?
01:52:44.000 So here's my question to the lefty.
01:52:45.000 Okay, so do you believe that God is real?
01:52:47.000 Do you believe that Jesus Christ is king?
01:52:50.000 And how do you think they'd respond?
01:52:51.000 No.
01:52:52.000 So if God's not real, then what is this religion?
01:52:56.000 It's clearly not backed by any deity or defined scripture.
01:53:01.000 It would just be like a political ideology, right?
01:53:05.000 If you believe there is no God and there is no Jesus, then this is just a group of people who believe in a political structure, right?
01:53:11.000 Okay.
01:53:12.000 What's the difference between their political structure and your political structure?
01:53:16.000 Neither are backed by a God in your belief.
01:53:18.000 You are the one who says there's no God.
01:53:20.000 Therefore, these people just have bad beliefs.
01:53:24.000 You have beliefs as well.
01:53:24.000 Okay.
01:53:26.000 The issue is that.
01:53:27.000 Why yours and not theirs?
01:53:28.000 As it pertains to law, the left, when they say get God out of government, They're saying, get your ideology out of our government.
01:53:34.000 My response is, and what, replace it with your ideology?
01:53:37.000 Yeah.
01:53:37.000 When people, like, people will say, hey, check your Christianity at the gates of the state house, at the doors of the state house.
01:53:37.000 Yeah.
01:53:43.000 And I'll say, okay, wait, you, someone who's LGBTQ, you said they can bring their identity in.
01:53:47.000 If a doctor comes in, you can bring their identity in.
01:53:50.000 If a teacher comes in, bring your.
01:53:51.000 But because I'm a Christian, I'm a pastor, you want me to check my identity at the door?
01:53:55.000 No, no, no.
01:53:56.000 If you get to bring yours in, I get to bring mine in.
01:53:59.000 And they, and I'll tell you this, like.
01:54:00.000 Add one thing.
01:54:01.000 You don't like Christians.
01:54:01.000 Yeah.
01:54:02.000 That's right.
01:54:03.000 Exactly.
01:54:03.000 Anything but Christ and anyone.
01:54:05.000 Or anyone but Christ and anything but Christianity.
01:54:07.000 I was talking to one guy in my neighborhood once.
01:54:09.000 He comes and he says, Listen, I'm not a Trump fan.
01:54:11.000 He starts ripping on Trump.
01:54:12.000 He said, Well, because he's a womanizer and he's a cheater and he's a liar, steals money and all this stuff.
01:54:12.000 I said, Well, why not?
01:54:17.000 I said, Okay, hey, we're trying to get a law in Indiana passed where we put the Ten Commandments on every schoolroom wall, right?
01:54:23.000 Would you be okay with that?
01:54:24.000 He said, Well, absolutely not.
01:54:27.000 There's no place for religion in our schools.
01:54:29.000 I said, Oh, hold on.
01:54:30.000 I said, You're telling me you're going to hold Donald Trump to a standard of don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't lie.
01:54:38.000 All the things that the Ten Commandments say to do, but you don't want them up anywhere in our culture.
01:54:43.000 Don't hold this man to a standard you yourself will not promote in your regular life.
01:54:48.000 Yep.
01:54:48.000 Yeah.
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01:55:08.000 Help our family move after eviction notice.
01:55:11.000 We need to be out by Halloween.
01:55:12.000 Sorry to hear it, brother, man.
01:55:13.000 Best of luck.
01:55:16.000 B Mobius says squirrels are rats with PR.
01:55:19.000 Yeah, I call them tree rats.
01:55:21.000 They're tree rats, especially in New York.
01:55:23.000 They're rough.
01:55:26.000 All right.
01:55:26.000 What do we have here?
01:55:28.000 Casey says How is Trump ending the 20 year war in Iraq?
01:55:31.000 Not the biggest news of the day.
01:55:32.000 Yeah, the last troops left, huh?
01:55:34.000 Because it was largely drawn down.
01:55:35.000 There's a couple hundred troops we had there for like advisory positions or something.
01:55:39.000 Yeah, and they're still in the region.
01:55:41.000 Right.
01:55:41.000 I mean, even Central Command said, hey, we're still close by if stuff gets out of hand.
01:55:45.000 We're close by to everything.
01:55:46.000 Grim Gaming says, I helped my buddy at his farm in Illinois.
01:55:49.000 It is $1.40 more than it is in Indiana.
01:55:52.000 Presumably, he's saying for gas.
01:55:53.000 Wait, say that again.
01:55:54.000 How much was it?
01:55:54.000 $1.40 more.
01:55:56.000 Oh.
01:55:56.000 Yeah, I assume he means gasoline.
01:55:58.000 Yeah.
01:55:59.000 It's, man, Illinois is so jacked up.
01:56:02.000 Hey, move to Indiana.
01:56:03.000 We want conservatives to move to Indiana.
01:56:05.000 Don't stay there.
01:56:08.000 The opportunity is Indiana.
01:56:09.000 For my friends that don't want to leave Chicago, I mean, look, the Bears found it.
01:56:09.000 Yeah.
01:56:13.000 That's right.
01:56:14.000 But look, here's the thing.
01:56:15.000 It's really simple.
01:56:16.000 Illinois said, we don't care about the Bears, and India said, we absolutely do, and they paid.
01:56:20.000 That's right.
01:56:21.000 Did you see the story last year?
01:56:23.000 I don't know if you saw it, but Illinois, 33 counties voted in Illinois to secede from Illinois.
01:56:29.000 It came to our legislature last year.
01:56:29.000 Really?
01:56:32.000 So we had to pass a bill to accept these 33 counties.
01:56:35.000 The governor, yeah, we did.
01:56:35.000 They did.
01:56:37.000 Heck yeah, we did.
01:56:38.000 And the governor signed it, right?
01:56:40.000 So we have a bill.
01:56:41.000 We said, hey, we will take these 33 counties in the southern part of Illinois to become part of Indiana.
01:56:46.000 So now it goes back to the Illinois state legislature, which probably won't happen.
01:56:51.000 If they were to do it, though, then it would go to Congress and Congress would redraw the lines.
01:56:55.000 I think you guys should file a lawsuit.
01:56:58.000 And argue that, and look, I understand the Supreme Court, this may fall under original jurisdiction because it's gonna be a state versus state issue.
01:57:06.000 So it goes directly to the Supreme Court.
01:57:08.000 I imagine they'll probably say no because I view them to be largely politically motivated.
01:57:13.000 Most people are, they're political.
01:57:14.000 Doesn't matter what's right or what's true, but this nation was founded on the principle of self governance.
01:57:20.000 That if a group of people determine they have a right to decide how they are ruled, that means if these counties say, we are Indiana, Illinois should have no right to block them from doing so.
01:57:32.000 Yeah.
01:57:34.000 And I think the people there would be happier.
01:57:37.000 It would create political pressure on Illinois to fix their business.
01:57:37.000 Yeah.
01:57:41.000 Right.
01:57:43.000 We have seen this with Northern California, the state of Jefferson, with Greater Idaho.
01:57:47.000 I did not realize we had 33 counties in Illinois saying it.
01:57:49.000 In Western Maryland, three counties voted to secede and join West Virginia.
01:57:54.000 It should be up to the people in those counties to decide.
01:57:59.000 Which state they are a part of.
01:58:00.000 And this would be tremendous, in my opinion, because it would force the states to listen to the minority, to guarantee minority representation for these communities.
01:58:10.000 So let me tell you about Maryland, because you probably get it with Illinois and Indiana stuff.
01:58:13.000 In Western Maryland, largely rural, you can't own certain guns because Baltimore has gun violence.
01:58:19.000 That's ridiculous.
01:58:19.000 Yeah, and I understand that they're like, we got a problem with gun violence in Baltimore, so we're going to pass some laws.
01:58:24.000 Sure, sure.
01:58:25.000 But how are you going to go tell a guy who lives in the wilderness in Western Maryland he can't now have an M1?
01:58:31.000 M1A, because you're scared about a guy in Baltimore who's got a Glock.
01:58:34.000 Yeah.
01:58:35.000 So M1As are banned in Maryland.
01:58:36.000 They're considered assault weapons.
01:58:38.000 Ridiculous.
01:58:39.000 Yet the problem in Baltimore is Glocks.
01:58:40.000 Yeah.
01:58:41.000 It's absolutely insane what that state is.
01:58:43.000 Listen, you elect bad politicians, they create bad policy, and the whole people suffer.
01:58:47.000 Well, this is the thing.
01:58:48.000 I have this conversation all the time.
01:58:52.000 One of our contractors was here.
01:58:53.000 She's like moderate, kind of liberal.
01:58:55.000 And I was like, you know, I went to the March for Our Lives years ago.
01:59:00.000 I do not do the man in the street gotcha stuff.
01:59:02.000 I was genuinely like, hey, I'm filming a vlog.
01:59:04.000 Would you like to answer questions?
01:59:06.000 99% of people at this gun control rally, I said, Can you tell me why you're here?
01:59:11.000 What you're hoping to accomplish?
01:59:12.000 What did they all say?
01:59:13.000 We want to ban assault rifles.
01:59:16.000 And then I asked them, That's interesting.
01:59:20.000 Are you aware that we actually did, in the United States, ban the production and sale of civilian use assault rifles in 1985?
01:59:26.000 And currently, you can still buy them under something called the NFA.
01:59:29.000 It's a tax.
01:59:30.000 It takes a few months to get, but it has to be pre 1985.
01:59:32.000 There's very few of these.
01:59:33.000 So effectively, that ban did pass.
01:59:36.000 They all went, I didn't know that.
01:59:37.000 One lady actually had a sign and she folded it up.
01:59:39.000 I showed her my phone.
01:59:40.000 I was like, I'm not trying to get you.
01:59:41.000 I'm genuinely curious.
01:59:43.000 None of them had any idea what they were protesting for.
01:59:45.000 That's hilarious.
01:59:46.000 Now, sad.
01:59:47.000 You know, I said 99% because there was one guy who was like, I understand the NFA.
01:59:51.000 I understand all that stuff.
01:59:52.000 That's been done.
01:59:53.000 These are challenges.
01:59:54.000 His concern was, he was like, Look, you've got handguns with 17 rounds that kids are buying and we've got to figure out what to do.
02:00:01.000 And I said, Totally get it.
02:00:02.000 Totally get it.
02:00:03.000 Yeah.
02:00:04.000 Let's grab some more of these.
02:00:06.000 Sever's Lates or Sever's Lates.
02:00:08.000 Did we see that the Sec War wants pitches from states to build new bases?
02:00:13.000 State of the Forces was great today.
02:00:15.000 Yeah, and their own power sources, too.
02:00:17.000 I think that was something, right?
02:00:19.000 That and Palmer Lucky and Elon Musk are slotted to be the advisors, or I forget what their actual title is, but for advancing U.S. technology for the Department of War.
02:00:31.000 Palmer Lucky.
02:00:32.000 Dude, Palmer Lucky's awesome.
02:00:33.000 He is.
02:00:34.000 I'm a big fan of that guy.
02:00:35.000 Yep.
02:00:36.000 He just smack talks people on, does his thing.
02:00:38.000 He just doesn't care.
02:00:39.000 Yeah.
02:00:39.000 I'm a big fan.
02:00:41.000 Shadav says Tim, Japan did not bring in their incompatible migrants because of their birth rates.
02:00:48.000 It was a stipulation for accessing funds from the IMF and the World Bank.
02:00:52.000 They didn't pick those individuals.
02:00:53.000 Interesting.
02:00:54.000 I don't know that.
02:00:57.000 Was not aware.
02:00:58.000 We'll have to dig that story up.
02:00:59.000 That's interesting.
02:01:01.000 All right.
02:01:02.000 What do we have?
02:01:02.000 I love you, Lord says, Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moths and vermin destroy.
02:01:08.000 Matthew 6 19.
02:01:09.000 The one you just killed.
02:01:12.000 It wasn't a moth.
02:01:13.000 Oh, yeah.
02:01:14.000 That's right.
02:01:14.000 I'm sorry.
02:01:14.000 I don't know what it was.
02:01:15.000 Is it a goofy looking little bug?
02:01:17.000 It was a moth.
02:01:18.000 It wasn't.
02:01:18.000 I promise you.
02:01:19.000 It was not a moth.
02:01:20.000 No.
02:01:21.000 It looked like a lightning bug.
02:01:23.000 Prove it.
02:01:23.000 What?
02:01:23.000 No.
02:01:24.000 It was not.
02:01:25.000 Go find it.
02:01:25.000 It was not.
02:01:26.000 It was over here.
02:01:26.000 It was like tan, but I'm not sure what it was.
02:01:28.000 It was not a muff.
02:01:29.000 It looked not like.
02:01:30.000 It was definitely not a muff.
02:01:32.000 Yeah, it looked like.
02:01:34.000 We got a bunch of goofy ass bugs in the building.
02:01:36.000 Lantern flies and stink bugs.
02:01:39.000 Yeah, it wasn't stink bugs.
02:01:40.000 It wasn't a stink bug.
02:01:41.000 It was a lantern fly.
02:01:41.000 Yeah, those are out there.
02:01:42.000 But it looked like.
02:01:44.000 Its body looked more like a lightning bug.
02:01:46.000 So I don't know what kind of bug it was.
02:01:47.000 We got a bunch of goofy bugs out there.
02:01:49.000 We actually have a war going on, and it's been going on for some time.
02:01:49.000 It's crazy.
02:01:52.000 It's really weird.
02:01:53.000 Like, one day there were a bunch of crickets in the ramps.
02:01:57.000 Okay.
02:01:57.000 And we were like, we got a cricket problem.
02:01:59.000 Then all of a sudden, we had a ketidid problem.
02:02:01.000 And it was like they kept cycling.
02:02:03.000 Like the different bugs were going to war and taking over.
02:02:05.000 We had ladybugs.
02:02:08.000 Stink bugs are coming in, though.
02:02:08.000 Yeah.
02:02:09.000 Amazing.
02:02:10.000 They're from China.
02:02:11.000 All right.
02:02:12.000 Let's grab one more quick one.
02:02:15.000 Marutia says Tim, please look into the China show's video exposing embassy backed CCP sleeper cells and Chinese secret police assaulting people with impunity on U.S. soil during Xi's recent visit to D.C. Whoa.
02:02:29.000 I like the China show's premise, but the guys on it kind of just.
02:02:32.000 Yuck it up a little more than I think that is my taste.
02:02:36.000 We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
02:02:39.000 So, smash the like button, share the show with all your friends.
02:02:42.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Kessler.
02:02:44.000 Would you like to shout anything out?
02:02:46.000 Well, hey, no, thanks for having me.
02:02:47.000 This has been great.
02:02:48.000 I love the conversations, guys.
02:02:50.000 Keep speaking truth, right?
02:02:51.000 I think, yeah, you kind of people ask, okay, what's the solution?
02:02:54.000 We talked about a lot of problems.
02:02:55.000 It's easy to hit the problems.
02:02:57.000 I really think people just know the truth and speak the truth.
02:03:00.000 And I believe more than anything that if you know the truth, the truth will set you free.
02:03:02.000 And so, if we believe in freedom, speak the truth.
02:03:05.000 Yeah.
02:03:06.000 That's so true.
02:03:06.000 Oh, yeah.
02:03:07.000 Where can people find you?
02:03:09.000 You can look me up on Google Me.
02:03:11.000 I don't believe everything you read about me.
02:03:15.000 But the Micah Beckwith on Twitter.
02:03:17.000 And then you can also go to Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith.
02:03:21.000 And then anywhere, you know, just type my name in on social media and it'll come up.
02:03:26.000 So let's go.
02:03:26.000 Well, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Real Tape Brown.
02:03:31.000 And we'll be back tomorrow at noon for the Timcast Daily News Live Show.
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02:05:15.000 I thought the word Wimixon was offensive to trans people.
02:05:20.000 It's offensive to normal people.
02:05:24.000 Rutgers women's rugby team rebands to Rutgers Wimixon's rugby.
02:05:28.000 Oh, yes.
02:05:29.000 This is exactly what I wanted to hear.
02:05:31.000 Not true.
02:05:32.000 This is what every Republican needs to be talking about right now.
02:05:35.000 Babon B. What is it?
02:05:36.000 No, this is post millennial.
02:05:37.000 This is real.
02:05:38.000 This is Wimixon.
02:05:40.000 Literally, Wimixon.
02:05:41.000 That's the word.
02:05:42.000 I don't know.
02:05:43.000 To be inclusive, I guess, they decided they're going to be.
02:05:47.000 Well, I mean, it's rugby, and it's probably going to be half men.
02:05:50.000 People that used to be men.
02:05:53.000 Those are called men.
02:05:53.000 You know, like 50 50.
02:05:55.000 We're excited for that.
02:05:56.000 It's a co ed team, technically.
02:05:57.000 Rutgers Women's Rugby will be making the change to Rutgers Wimixon's Rugby.
02:05:57.000 Those are called men.
02:06:02.000 This change reflects our team's commitment to creating a welcoming, inclusive, and supportive environment for our players.
02:06:07.000 Inclusivity is an important part of who we are, and we want every member of our team to feel valued and represented through our organization.
02:06:14.000 How long do you think this will last?
02:06:15.000 This is evolving.
02:06:17.000 Uh,.
02:06:18.000 You know, look, Republicans need the trans issue to come back because it's a game winning issue.
02:06:23.000 If Democrats, like, the estimates are that Trump gained three points off of those Kamala Harris, they, them commercials.
02:06:30.000 That's right.
02:06:31.000 So if they want to keep doing this stuff, you know, actually, I got to give a shout out to Destiny, who had a really great point.
02:06:37.000 He said, I was confused as to why this tiny population has become such a big talking point because I'm like, there is no pandemic of trans people.
02:06:46.000 And then I realized there's a pandemic of Democrats who are defending it.
02:06:49.000 I was like, hey, he's actually right.
02:06:53.000 It's a winner for Republicans.
02:06:55.000 Most people do not, they don't accept the concept.
02:07:00.000 When it was a situation where it was like, all right, we're going to, as a society, say, look, if you're a man and you want to live as a woman, we'll accept that.
02:07:10.000 That was something that the average person could say, okay, live and let live, doesn't bother me.
02:07:16.000 But when it was trans women, men that want to dress as women, demanding access to women's spaces, That was where the line was.
02:07:25.000 That was where, no, right?
02:07:27.000 Like, I'm not, I don't want to have to worry about going into, you know, having to go to HR because there is a trans woman that used to be Jim, you know, two years ago that I've worked with for 10 years.
02:07:41.000 And now it's Janet, and I said Jim, and now, oh, now we got to go into HR and I might lose my job.
02:07:47.000 That kind of stuff is not going to fly with normal people.
02:07:51.000 The whole bathroom stuff, it's not going to fly with normal people.
02:07:54.000 And I think that.
02:07:57.000 At least the people that were moderately online heard about things like trans women saying that if you're a cis male and you won't date trans women, you're a bigot.
02:08:09.000 And your average dude, your average straight guy, is not like they're going to be like, no, no, I'm not going to do it.
02:08:15.000 Like, you would see this stuff on the internet, you know, suck her dick, bigot.
02:08:21.000 And dudes are like, no, this is not happening.
02:08:27.000 Okay, but you said something there.
02:08:28.000 It's like, this is most normal people.
02:08:31.000 Understand this.
02:08:32.000 How long until it isn't normal anymore for us to push back on it and we are the ones that are the abnormal?
02:08:40.000 I mean, that's the goal.
02:08:41.000 Yeah, but I don't think that that ever wins.
02:08:44.000 I don't know, man.
02:08:46.000 Because sucker dick, bigot.
02:08:48.000 But no, I hear you.
02:08:49.000 It's crazy.
02:08:50.000 It's crazy to think that right now.
02:08:51.000 But if I would have gone back 25 years from now or like 25 years ago and I said to all y'all, hey, in 25 years, there will literally be presidential candidates saying they, them, And we should let boys compete in girls' sports.
02:09:04.000 And if boys want to identify, you would have said 25 years ago, there's no way in God's green earth.
02:09:10.000 This is the famous meme during the 2008 with the gay marriage campaign.
02:09:10.000 They did.
02:09:16.000 There were these memes online where it was like things that will happen if gay people get married.
02:09:19.000 It was like the terrorists will win.
02:09:20.000 There'll be another war in the Middle East.
02:09:22.000 And everyone's like, all of those things happened.
02:09:24.000 Yeah.
02:09:26.000 But more importantly, conservatives argued, and this is fascinating.
02:09:29.000 We did this segment where there was Gay Marriage the Musical, and it's like all these celebrities.
02:09:36.000 It's like John C. Riley and I think Will Ferrell's in it, whatever.
02:09:40.000 And the liberals are like, Dancing, saying, We want to get our gay friends married.
02:09:44.000 Then the conservatives come out and say, They'll teach children about sodomy.
02:09:48.000 So all the people go, Oh no, and they vote against it.
02:09:50.000 And they go, Wait a minute, that was a lie.
02:09:52.000 And the conservative characters go, We won, so we don't care.
02:09:55.000 And now what are we finding out in schools?
02:09:57.000 They're teaching kids about sodomy.
02:09:58.000 So they were right the whole time.
02:09:58.000 That's right, yeah.
02:10:00.000 But I do want to just ask Phil this important question Ever in your life, did you think that you would ask a lieutenant governor, or would you say to him, Suck her dick, bigot?
02:10:11.000 You know, I didn't actually have that in my bingo cards.
02:10:14.000 That's disrespect, man.
02:10:15.000 Come on, what the heck?
02:10:16.000 No, this is the after show.
02:10:17.000 No, no, no, no.
02:10:18.000 I'm going to call you a faggot here.
02:10:19.000 It was a question of disrespect.
02:10:20.000 It was a question of agreement and absurdity about our condition.
02:10:24.000 It's a great point.
02:10:25.000 Like, we are sitting here and you've got an elected official and you've got cultural influencers like yourself, and we're having this legitimate conversation around women X, Wim X, Wim X, Wim Xin.
02:10:36.000 I don't even know how to say that.
02:10:38.000 It's ridiculous.
02:10:38.000 It's ridiculous.
02:10:39.000 So, we have to hold the line and we need to push back on this because they wanted tolerance.
02:10:45.000 They said, hey, just tolerate us.
02:10:47.000 Okay, fine.
02:10:48.000 You do you, I do it, I'll do me.
02:10:49.000 Just.
02:10:50.000 Stay over there with that nonsense, right?
02:10:51.000 Like, then they said, no, no, no, we want you to now accept us into the culture.
02:10:55.000 So, everywhere you go, we get to go to you.
02:10:57.000 Then they want you to affirm us, affirm what I'm doing is right.
02:11:01.000 And the next and final stage of this boss that we're going to have to fight is you better celebrate us.
02:11:06.000 And if you don't celebrate us, then we're going to cancel you.
02:11:08.000 We're going to get you fired.
02:11:09.000 We're going to label you as a bigot and an outcast, right?
02:11:14.000 That's where we're at.
02:11:15.000 Well, I think that the pushback has solidified with.
02:11:20.000 Again, normal people.
02:11:21.000 Yeah.
02:11:22.000 Right.
02:11:23.000 The Bud Light stuff with Dylan Mulvaney was a massive, massive error.
02:11:29.000 And it was simple, right?
02:11:31.000 Dudes go to the bar with their buddies, and he sees a guy drinking a Bud Light, and he just says, Huh, you're drinking the gay beer?
02:11:39.000 Done.
02:11:40.000 Done.
02:11:41.000 Yeah.
02:11:42.000 It was Miller Light, the give me the champagne of beers, screw the Bud Light.
02:11:47.000 And it cost Bud Light a lot.
02:11:49.000 And the American, and I don't think that Bud Light has recovered from that.
02:11:52.000 I still won't drink Bud Light.
02:11:54.000 You still drink biobank?
02:11:55.000 Oh, at least I still drink it.
02:11:55.000 No way.
02:11:57.000 No, no, no.
02:11:58.000 But I really do think that the, you know, the, because the end goal is for it to be normalized so much that gender, which I reject the concept of gender outright, you're a man or woman.
02:12:09.000 What is gender?
02:12:10.000 Like your sex spirit?
02:12:12.000 No.
02:12:13.000 Nah.
02:12:14.000 Yeah.
02:12:14.000 I'm not buying it.
02:12:16.000 Or biological sex.
02:12:17.000 I don't even say biological sex.
02:12:18.000 It's sex.
02:12:19.000 Yeah.
02:12:19.000 You're male or female.
02:12:21.000 That's it.
02:12:21.000 You're a man or a woman.
02:12:21.000 Yeah.
02:12:22.000 Like there is no, There is not non binary.
02:12:26.000 There are women that are more masculine and there are men that are more feminine.
02:12:29.000 Fine.
02:12:30.000 That's easy to understand.
02:12:32.000 But this whole, like, oh, I'm gender fluid.
02:12:36.000 Today I woke up and I was feeling like a woman, but tonight I'm feeling like I am bullshit.
02:12:41.000 You know how many times on social media, online, I legitimately will respond when people see a picture and it's all white people, they'll be like, or like white men, they'll be like, oh, look at all these white men.
02:12:50.000 You guys, you know, there's no diversity.
02:12:52.000 I literally respond and say, I identify as an African American woman.
02:12:55.000 So thank you very much for, you know, Not affirming me, you need to do better, you know?
02:13:01.000 So, yeah.
02:13:02.000 But the, like I said, I mean, I say, suck her dick bigot because it's ridiculous sounding, but.
02:13:09.000 Did you say that on the show earlier?
02:13:10.000 Would that be allowed?
02:13:11.000 Yeah, I mean, the family issue on the show is.
02:13:15.000 I wouldn't call you a faggot.
02:13:16.000 But look, the main issue is if we have parents who watch the show and they'll be on the living room with their kids.
02:13:22.000 Oh, yeah.
02:13:22.000 That's good.
02:13:23.000 So we try to avoid swearing and, you know, we're not like it can affect your ad rates and stuff if you swear and say sucker dig bigot.
02:13:30.000 But this is the after show.
02:13:33.000 You can say anything.
02:13:34.000 But look, that's where people draw the line.
02:13:37.000 And another place where you draw the lines, lesbian women.
02:13:41.000 Do not want to have sex with people with penises, right?
02:13:45.000 And so men, men.
02:13:47.000 But like, no, but the, I mean, the point, the point is, lesbian women are like, I don't want a dick.
02:13:55.000 And, but, but there are trans, there are trans, trans women, dudes, that say that they're women and then they call lesbians bigots because they're oppressing them.
02:14:07.000 I mean, I gotta, I gotta be honest.
02:14:08.000 I'm trying to figure out, I'm just mental gymnastics in my head.
02:14:11.000 It is, it's totally mental.
02:14:12.000 I gotta be honest, like, There's a dude out there who was like, he really wants to bang a lesbian, but she's not into guys.
02:14:18.000 So he's like, Mama woman.
02:14:19.000 And now you're a bigot.
02:14:20.000 And it's like, that's pretty ballsy.
02:14:23.000 Yeah.
02:14:23.000 You know what I mean?
02:14:24.000 To be like, I see what you did there.
02:14:25.000 It's pretty ballsy.
02:14:27.000 I see what you did there.
02:14:28.000 No, but I mean, like, that's so rapey, but like, well, the whole thing's rapey.
02:14:35.000 That is rapey as hell.
02:14:35.000 Suck her dick, bigot.
02:14:37.000 I'm just saying, like, a dude who wants to bang a lesbian so hard, he pressures her politically.
02:14:41.000 Yes.
02:14:42.000 That's like rape times 10.
02:14:43.000 Well, it is, but it gives.
02:14:46.000 To this point, it gives social cover to people that want to abuse other people.
02:14:53.000 It gives social cover.
02:14:54.000 They use virtue, like the school's virtue, to say, you better do what I'm telling you to do.
02:15:00.000 If not, you're not virtuous.
02:15:01.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:15:03.000 And that's the virtue.
02:15:04.000 I mean, it's just, it's all blanket.
02:15:06.000 It turns into a blanket cover for sexual assault.
02:15:09.000 I'm checking Zillow right now, Whiting Indiana properties.
02:15:13.000 Are you really?
02:15:13.000 You're going to move?
02:15:14.000 You guys are going to move the street?
02:15:15.000 Well, I'm from Chicago.
02:15:16.000 Yeah.
02:15:16.000 And, you know, my wife's from Chicago.
02:15:19.000 We love Chicago, but we don't want to be in Illinois.
02:15:21.000 And there's a casino in Whiting.
02:15:21.000 Yeah.
02:15:23.000 There you go.
02:15:25.000 Hey, man, listen, we'd love to have you.
02:15:27.000 I don't know what West Virginia's tax rates are.
02:15:29.000 It's pretty good in West Virginia, I think.
02:15:30.000 No, West Virginia is okay, but it's wonky as fuck.
02:15:33.000 Is it really?
02:15:34.000 Yeah, we got one of the best members of Congress, Riley Moore.
02:15:36.000 He's awesome.
02:15:37.000 He skateboards.
02:15:38.000 So he's like, I think he's the only one.
02:15:39.000 Is that why he's awesome?
02:15:42.000 You know, it's a large reason.
02:15:44.000 What's his policy on taxes?
02:15:45.000 I mean, is he good on all of it?
02:15:48.000 And he's actually.
02:15:50.000 Said on TV, we have too much legal migration.
02:15:53.000 Like, oh, yeah, yeah, good.
02:15:55.000 He's addressed it.
02:15:56.000 He's not just played this game where he tries to go solve it and says illegal immigration is bad and leaves it there.
02:16:00.000 Or, you know, Jim Justice in West Virginia, though, he said we shouldn't be deporting people who have been here for 15 years.
02:16:07.000 The problem is that statement is meant to defend illegal immigrants because nobody's pissed about the legal migrants here who need to re up or whatever.
02:16:07.000 He's a tarred.
02:16:15.000 They're mad about the illegal immigrants.
02:16:17.000 Riley Moore is like, nah, there's too many legal ones as well.
02:16:19.000 And we're like, wow.
02:16:20.000 That's great.
02:16:21.000 Yeah, so Riley's fantastic.
02:16:22.000 Yeah, that's awesome.
02:16:24.000 Yeah, you know, West Virginia, it seems like you guys got your head screwed on straight for most.
02:16:27.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a good state.
02:16:29.000 I mean, hold the line.
02:16:29.000 Don't, I know you've got your problems just like Indiana.
02:16:32.000 Indiana's a great state, but we, boy, we've got our problems too.
02:16:35.000 But we're just trying to hold the line.
02:16:36.000 We're trying to keep complacency from setting in.
02:16:39.000 And you get fat and lazy.
02:16:41.000 And, you know, we've been a super majority for now, you know, I don't know, 15, almost 15 years, I guess.
02:16:46.000 And you just kind of find this complacency where it's like, oh, we're fine.
02:16:49.000 You know, we'll be fine Republican.
02:16:52.000 And then people, then you get bad Republicans that just get lazy, and then they start governing like Democrats, and then people give up on Republicans.
02:16:58.000 And it's not the Republican principles that are the problem, it's the people who have the R next to their name that are the problem.
02:17:04.000 And that's what I'm trying to help people see.
02:17:05.000 It's like, hey, don't give up on the principles of republicanism because it works.
02:17:09.000 It's really good.
02:17:11.000 Punish the bad republicans in the primary and then defend the nation from radical leftists in the general.
02:17:18.000 Yeah, I'd like to see more of that.
02:17:20.000 Right now, you've got so many people that are disenfranchised, or, well, not disenfranchised.
02:17:26.000 Basically, they're just nihilistic.
02:17:27.000 I didn't realize y'all had two casinos.
02:17:30.000 You got Ameristar and Horseshoe.
02:17:32.000 Oh, we've got, no, we've got, we've got, Four wins and say, no, we've got a bunch of casinos.
02:17:36.000 No, but I mean in East Chicago.
02:17:38.000 East Chicago.
02:17:38.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:17:39.000 You know, and I always tell people, don't gamble.
02:17:42.000 And what I mean by that is when you go to the casino and you've got some disposable cash, like 100 bucks, 200 bucks, whatever's in your budget, that doesn't affect your life and you get free drinks while you hang out with your buddies or you go to a show, that's what casinos are for.
02:17:56.000 The problem is when people go there with their paycheck.
02:17:58.000 So I'm a fan of being responsible and I don't, you know, people are always like, gambling is wrong.
02:18:03.000 It's like, yeah, yeah.
02:18:04.000 But if.
02:18:05.000 If you got a hundred bucks for a Friday night with your boys and you're going to go put like 50 bucks on your favorite sports team while you have a drink, you want to make it a little more exciting.
02:18:12.000 Come on, that's fine.
02:18:13.000 Well, it's the, it's again, liberty without virtue can't exist, right?
02:18:18.000 So if you don't have virtue, you're going to do things like gamble your paycheck away.
02:18:23.000 I, you know, I say, you know, scripture says, you know, everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial.
02:18:26.000 And that's how I look at it, where it's like, hey, listen, we don't live under the old covenant of a do this, don't do that mindset.
02:18:32.000 We live under freedom in Christ where you can, you can.
02:18:36.000 You don't have to be like, oh, is this the right thing to do today?
02:18:39.000 You just have to say, hey, listen, is this beneficial for me?
02:18:41.000 Am I honoring God and what I'm doing?
02:18:43.000 And if you have that mindset, it's going to go well for you.
02:18:47.000 What's the, is there a state income tax in?
02:18:49.000 Yeah, it's like three, three, four.
02:18:52.000 It's not so bad.
02:18:53.000 Seven, something like that.
02:18:54.000 Yeah, it's good.
02:18:54.000 Yeah.
02:18:55.000 Actually, it's.
02:18:56.000 We should abolish it.
02:18:57.000 We should abolish it.
02:18:58.000 I mean, that's what.
02:18:59.000 But right now, we're working on getting rid of property taxes.
02:19:02.000 So we want to be.
02:19:02.000 Ooh.
02:19:04.000 Tate has thoughts about that.
02:19:06.000 This is fantastic, in my opinion.
02:19:06.000 Yeah.
02:19:08.000 I know Tate's got arguments for it, but you want abolishing it or keeping it?
02:19:11.000 Keeping.
02:19:11.000 I'm pro property tax.
02:19:13.000 So, because it's the most unpopular position in the media.
02:19:18.000 The idea is you guys do this, and people want to move there and start businesses there because they save money.
02:19:22.000 And then they can use that money to start businesses, and let's go.
02:19:26.000 Yeah.
02:19:26.000 No, no.
02:19:27.000 So, there are multiple plans in the works.
02:19:29.000 I don't think we'll abolish property taxes for everything businesses and second and third homes.
02:19:34.000 But I think right now the goal is to at least get abolished property taxes for your homestead.
02:19:38.000 So, you can never lose your house because you can't pay the government rent to stay.
02:19:42.000 I just think property taxes are immoral.
02:19:45.000 I agree.
02:19:45.000 Because it's not really your property, Tate.
02:19:47.000 Is it?
02:19:48.000 You're renting from the government.
02:19:49.000 You're renting from the government.
02:19:50.000 Well, that's like a natural rights argument.
02:19:53.000 Because then, technically, you don't own your labor because your labor is taxed.
02:19:56.000 True.
02:19:57.000 But I will say this life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
02:20:00.000 Jefferson changed that.
02:20:01.000 It was a Lockean principle.
02:20:02.000 It was life, liberty, and property, is what John Locke said.
02:20:05.000 Jefferson changed that to pursuit of happiness so we didn't lump slavery into that because the South would have said, hey, the slaves are our property.
02:20:12.000 So, we have a right to own slaves.
02:20:14.000 He didn't want that.
02:20:15.000 So, he changed it to pursue happiness.
02:20:16.000 But the founders believed you couldn't actually pursue happiness if you didn't have property as a God given right.
02:20:21.000 That's what the whole thing was.
02:20:22.000 But the founders were all super pro property tax.
02:20:24.000 I think it was Jefferson said it's the most moral tax.
02:20:27.000 Yeah, I mean, again, but I think, yes, they were.
02:20:31.000 But how do you rectify property being a God given right then?
02:20:35.000 Is property not a God given right?
02:20:37.000 Well, you have a responsibility.
02:20:39.000 Like, if you buy property, it's not just like everything on this acre.
02:20:42.000 Is all that matters.
02:20:43.000 And then, like, what it's like not to use like the libtard trope, but it's like we live in a society, right?
02:20:47.000 Like, part of what gives your value, part of what gives your property value is the infrastructure around it, the amenities, police, fire, et cetera.
02:20:57.000 And so, yeah, I mean, when you're buying a property, you're not just buying a house, you're buying like a place in a community.
02:21:03.000 Like, that is the point.
02:21:04.000 That's why.
02:21:05.000 So, pay sales tax on your house when you buy your house.
02:21:08.000 You could, but the problem is, and so, like, I'm sympathetic, but the problem is it screws over young people because when everyone that owns a home now is going to be grandfathered in, they don't have to pay that sales tax.
02:21:19.000 But then, young people that are trying to buy a house for the first time, now the property tax, there's a shortfall in revenue.
02:21:25.000 They're just going to front load it.
02:21:26.000 So, your closing costs go up like.
02:21:27.000 So, what about?
02:21:28.000 So, in Indiana, one of the things that we're looking at again, not abolishing all property taxes, but abolishing your homestead property tax.
02:21:33.000 So, second and third homes still have property taxes, businesses still have property taxes.
02:21:38.000 And then, if, but if we get rid of homestead, if we have 100% homestead deduction, so, and then, and then we abolish income tax.
02:21:45.000 I think that would be, maybe be a good, yeah.
02:21:49.000 It's tough.
02:21:49.000 It's like a good example is like Hillsborough County.
02:21:51.000 I was looking at through Florida because DeSantis is proposing something similar.
02:21:54.000 And I was looking through Florida, like Hillsborough County, for example, Tampa, et cetera.
02:21:59.000 They were basically crunching the numbers.
02:22:01.000 They're like, okay, we don't have a state income tax and they're doing a homestead exemption, but they're going to abolish properties like a second, third homes and whatever.
02:22:07.000 And they were like, 88% of our property tax comes from, or sorry, 88% of our revenue comes from property taxes.
02:22:13.000 So, because unfortunately, I don't know, Indiana is probably quite good at this, but typically municipal governments aren't great at cutting their budgets down.
02:22:21.000 They were like, yeah, they were like, we're going to have to get this revenue from elsewhere.
02:22:26.000 And so, one of the proposals they came up with is taxing people to go to the park.
02:22:29.000 Like, they just came up with a cocktail of taxes, which are all super regressive on young people.
02:22:34.000 So, it'd be one thing if these municipal governments, like Hillsborough County, were like, hey, we can cut.
02:22:38.000 Yeah, we can cut, we'll be good.
02:22:39.000 The problem is, it's like I want to see that first before we abolish property taxes because then it's just going to basically end up like taxing young people.
02:22:46.000 So, let me ask you this.
02:22:46.000 So, what about a tax, a property tax where in Indiana, we have a 1% cap on our homestead, right?
02:22:55.000 That's constitutionally.
02:22:56.000 So, based on the assessed value, you're only allowed to tax 1% of your assessed value.
02:23:02.000 The problem is, the assessed values have gone through the roof.
02:23:04.000 Yeah, that's a problem.
02:23:05.000 Like everywhere, right?
02:23:06.000 So, a property tax 10 years ago would have been assessed on $200,000 on your home that you bought, but now it's $200,000.
02:23:12.000 $500,000 and people are saying, oh my gosh, I can't afford this.
02:23:15.000 This is where the pain's coming from.
02:23:16.000 So, what if we just did this?
02:23:18.000 Say, hey, listen, what you bought your house at.
02:23:20.000 So, if you bought your house for $200,000, as long as you live there, every year you'll pay 1% on $200,000 as your general property tax payment every year.
02:23:30.000 And it never goes up.
02:23:32.000 It's because really, think about it.
02:23:33.000 Assessed value is totally bunk that the government says, hey, this is what it's worth.
02:23:40.000 It's just somebody's subjective opinion.
02:23:42.000 It's either an assessor's opinion or it's a Program a software's opinion that your house is now worth more, it's not actually worth what someone paid for it.
02:23:50.000 That's in true economic form.
02:23:52.000 Well, I agree that the assessors are out of control, they're just not going to defend that.
02:23:56.000 And I think they could probably pin it to like general market values like what are other homes selling for?
02:24:01.000 Well, they try to.
02:24:02.000 The problem is, if you pin it at your time of purchase, you end up like California.
02:24:07.000 California tried this, they passed it, was it prop seven?
02:24:11.000 Yeah, props it back in the 70s.
02:24:13.000 What ended up happening is it completely took away churn in the market, so people were terrified to sell their homes because they're like.
02:24:19.000 My entire value is stored in this.
02:24:21.000 And if I sell this, I'm going to basically get blown out in the market because then I got to buy a house with a new property tax evaluation.
02:24:27.000 But I would argue that strong societies are made by families who put down roots in communities.
02:24:34.000 I agree.
02:24:34.000 I don't think we should be incentivizing people to just be able to pick up and move easily.
02:24:39.000 I know the realtors don't like that.
02:24:40.000 But because think about this the more you have turnover in a society, in a neighborhood, the less you know your neighbors, right?
02:24:48.000 The more like, you know, people are moving in from all over the place, right?
02:24:51.000 What creates a strong society is hey, we grew up with these people.
02:24:54.000 We know these people.
02:24:55.000 The neighbors live there for a long time.
02:24:57.000 Families grow there.
02:24:58.000 And so you're incentivizing good behavior of saying, put down roots and you'll be compensated.
02:25:03.000 Like you'll be blessed.
02:25:05.000 The taxes will be low.
02:25:06.000 If you want to move, okay, fine.
02:25:08.000 But yeah, you might miss a huge benefit in this.
02:25:12.000 I think that's a good thing to say to, you know, we're incentivizing people to stay.
02:25:15.000 I mean, I agree that that is certainly a problem that these, like, the cohesiveness of neighborhoods breaks down if you have, like, high churn in the market.
02:25:22.000 But I would, like, respond to two things is one, Americans are very transient people.
02:25:26.000 You always have been.
02:25:27.000 I mean, if you go up your ancestry, Probably been the state for a few generations.
02:25:31.000 Some people obviously have been in the same state for six, seven generations, but most Americans move around a lot.
02:25:36.000 I mean, that's kind of our legacy is going to the frontier.
02:25:38.000 So that would be maybe the more philosophical element.
02:25:42.000 The second thing is you do need some level of churn because the major problem in the housing market right now is older people not downsizing.
02:25:49.000 For example, if you look in Northern Virginia, you have these massive homes that empty nesters are living in.
02:25:56.000 And I'm not saying, I'm not making their homes go take their homes.
02:25:59.000 I'm just saying, look, We can't insulate people from market realities either.
02:26:03.000 That would be kind of a populist talking point.
02:26:06.000 Basically, what you're getting at is we need to find ways to insulate people from the market reality of the value of your home going up.
02:26:13.000 And property tax has always been a factor in the United States.
02:26:15.000 We've always had property tax.
02:26:16.000 I agree the assessments are out of control.
02:26:18.000 We should address that.
02:26:19.000 But when we try to insulate people from market realities, it just causes an incentive to not downsize.
02:26:24.000 Again, I don't think you are because something is only worth what somebody paid for it.
02:26:29.000 To assess a value on anything and then tax somebody for it.
02:26:34.000 Why don't we do the same then with stocks?
02:26:36.000 Because we could tax people on unrealized gains.
02:26:38.000 We should be doing that because if you want to say fair is fair, fine.
02:26:42.000 Then if you get to tax somebody's house on unrealized gains, then you get to tax somebody's stocks on unrealized gains.
02:26:48.000 Why are you saying it's okay on your house, your investment, but then on your portfolio and your stock market?
02:26:53.000 Oh, don't touch that.
02:26:54.000 Because I don't think a house should be.
02:26:56.000 I think part of what's happened in this country is we now view houses as just an asset purely.
02:27:00.000 And I think that sort of mentality reiterates that the home is purely an economic asset, where I think a home is more.
02:27:06.000 It's again, it's purchasing your.
02:27:08.000 Plot in a community, participation with the civic institutions.
02:27:12.000 Again, the great schools.
02:27:13.000 I want to be here to the great schools.
02:27:14.000 So, when you kind of compare it to stocks or other assets that may appreciate, like, I don't know, you get a nice trading card and now it's worth more, and then you pay more on that sales tax once you sell it, et cetera.
02:27:24.000 The problem is like reducing houses down to just an economic asset, I think, sells short what a home actually means.
02:27:30.000 And I agree with that.
02:27:31.000 You're buying into a community, right?
02:27:33.000 So, there's an aspect to pay for the roads, pay for the fire, the police, pay your fair share, right?
02:27:37.000 I'm good with that.
02:27:38.000 Okay, so then when you buy into the community early on, And you take a risk on a small community that then later grows to be a very popular community, and you're paying, hey, I bought my house for $200,000.
02:27:49.000 Yeah, I could sell my house now for $600,000 because now everyone wants to live here.
02:27:52.000 But I invested 30 years ago.
02:27:54.000 I've been paying 30 years of roads and schools and fire and police.
02:28:00.000 And then to say to them now, hey, you've got to up your property tax, and then people come in based on the community you've spent time building, and then someone from Chicago moves in and says, well, I want to live here too, and my property taxes shouldn't be more than yours.
02:28:13.000 It's like, whoa, whoa.
02:28:15.000 Yeah, they should because I've been here for 30 years.
02:28:17.000 You just moved in from Chicago, and you want to tell me that now because you want to have.
02:28:22.000 Yeah, finish that point real quick.
02:28:24.000 I want to add to that.
02:28:24.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:28:25.000 So imagine this you've got a rundown, crummy little neighborhood.
02:28:29.000 You move into it because you can afford it, and you start helping the local garden.
02:28:33.000 You and your friends are like, we're going to work hard to make this place great.
02:28:36.000 Now that it's great, all these hipsters and rich people are like, I want to live there.
02:28:40.000 So the property value goes up, and then the state says, now you have to pay more money than you make.
02:28:44.000 And you go, whoa, whoa, wait.
02:28:45.000 I was paying a few thousand dollars a year in property taxes, but because we worked hard to make this place great, I got to pay 10 times that now.
02:28:53.000 Yeah, that's how it works.
02:28:54.000 This is well, the problem is picking out the traditional residents and bringing in people who've never lived there and sacrificed nothing.
02:29:01.000 You're making this a left wing argument.
02:29:02.000 This is fundamentally the same argument.
02:29:04.000 No, that's not a left wing argument.
02:29:06.000 This is fundamentally the same argument.
02:29:07.000 Let me finish.
02:29:09.000 This is fundamentally the same argument that anti gentrification people advocate all the time.
02:29:13.000 So, what that's wrong, that's fundamentally wrong.
02:29:16.000 No, it's no, we live in a free market.
02:29:18.000 That's just the reality.
02:29:19.000 You're not, it's not a free market when the government increases my taxes because I made my house look nice.
02:29:25.000 No, it's because the value of your house is gone.
02:29:27.000 That's literally communism.
02:29:28.000 To tax me based on my unrealized gain.
02:29:31.000 No, it's not.
02:29:32.000 It's not.
02:29:32.000 Home isn't just purely an economic asset.
02:29:34.000 You're paying for streets.
02:29:36.000 The value of your home.
02:29:38.000 And the value of my home goes up on a private market.
02:29:40.000 So the government says we're going to tax you on the unrealized gain is much closer to socialism and communism than free markets.
02:29:46.000 Because a home isn't just a point of sale.
02:29:48.000 A home is an asset that needs to be maintained.
02:29:51.000 And part of what maintains that home is the infrastructure around it.
02:29:54.000 Do you know that there are people in Chicago, and I'm sure you have this in Indiana, who fire guns for the purpose of keeping their taxes down?
02:30:00.000 Yeah, that's retarded.
02:30:01.000 Because they have to.
02:30:03.000 Because the taxes are retarded.
02:30:03.000 No, that's.
02:30:05.000 Just move.
02:30:07.000 Okay.
02:30:07.000 But we're just saying this is America.
02:30:09.000 So this is communism, bro.
02:30:10.000 That's what I'm talking about.
02:30:12.000 Your legacy heritage land is not your right.
02:30:15.000 Just move.
02:30:16.000 Yes.
02:30:16.000 Your grandfather built this farm.
02:30:19.000 Get the fuck out.
02:30:19.000 Obviously.
02:30:21.000 If you can't afford it, then yeah.
02:30:22.000 If Americans can't afford it, bring the Haitians in.
02:30:24.000 It's the market.
02:30:25.000 No, no, I'm not.
02:30:26.000 Why not?
02:30:26.000 That's immigration.
02:30:27.000 That's a completely separate thing.
02:30:29.000 But see, again, this is the fundamental difference where, okay, in one instance, The property is a God given right, right?
02:30:35.000 In yours, you're saying, hey, it's just a market.
02:30:38.000 It's a consequence of the markets, right?
02:30:39.000 The property.
02:30:40.000 So I would disagree with that property is a consequence of the markets based on Lockean philosophy that God is the one who allows us to have this right of property, right?
02:30:52.000 He gives us property.
02:30:53.000 Therefore, the government should not be able to damage that right.
02:30:57.000 It should secure that right.
02:30:58.000 That's what governments are instituted among men to do secure the right.
02:31:00.000 Now, I think that's the fundamental disagreement.
02:31:04.000 We see one side saying, Well, it's just a market thing.
02:31:07.000 It's just something.
02:31:08.000 Whereas I think what Tim is trying to say is like, hey, this is a God given right where people, they've put down roots, they've lived here.
02:31:15.000 This is theirs.
02:31:16.000 What right does the government have to come in and tax them on it and then to really run them out?
02:31:22.000 Like, I think to me, that's just like, that's government overreach big time.
02:31:25.000 I don't think because this has existed in the country for 300 years.
02:31:28.000 The way I see it is that people are just tired.
02:31:30.000 And I sympathize with why they're tired of paying for property taxes because they do feel like writ large, the United States is declining.
02:31:37.000 They're not getting the ROI on taxes that they used to.
02:31:39.000 My problem, the main reason why I'm like so vocal on this is because it fundamentally will screw over young people.
02:31:45.000 Like, I agree, I don't disagree with that.
02:31:47.000 Like, I agree with what you're saying.
02:31:48.000 Like, there has to be a mechanism to help young people for sure.
02:31:51.000 And listen, I'm going to advocate for the next generation young man in this country more than anybody else.
02:31:57.000 Like, we need those guys to be successful.
02:31:59.000 We need those guys to get the jobs, get rid of the H 1B visa crap.
02:32:02.000 Like, that's absolutely ridiculous.
02:32:04.000 However, I also think we have to then say, hey, you don't have just because you're young, you don't have a right to just, you know, Be given property, fight for it, earn it, and then once you get it, hold on to it.
02:32:17.000 And government's not going to do anything to destroy it.
02:32:19.000 I'm going to put it like this.
02:32:20.000 So the year is 1800, and there's a plot of land in Ohio that nobody's laid claim to.
02:32:25.000 And a guy shows up and says, I need 50 acres.
02:32:27.000 I'm going to put a farm here for my family.
02:32:30.000 And he builds a house, and then generations go by, and it's been 100 years.
02:32:35.000 And outside the community, there's now little towns and stuff, but they still own that 50 acres.
02:32:38.000 Well, the property value has gone up substantially.
02:32:40.000 They introduced the property tax and the assessment system.
02:32:44.000 And now, It's fourth or fifth generation, and they come and they say, You got to pay us a couple hundred bucks a year in property taxes to maintain the community.
02:32:50.000 And they say, Yeah, that's fair.
02:32:51.000 That makes sense.
02:32:52.000 You know, my great, great granddaddy built this farm and we've had, it's been in our family for generations.
02:32:57.000 Now it's the year 2026 and there's a small town surrounding it and they have this big plot of land.
02:33:02.000 What happens is the city comes in and says 50 acres in this town, whoo, that's worth 10 times per capita what it was when your granddaddy came.
02:33:10.000 When your granddaddy came, it was worthless.
02:33:12.000 So now you got to give us $10,000 per year.
02:33:14.000 And they say, but we're a farm.
02:33:16.000 We don't make that.
02:33:17.000 We just grow enough to sustain our family.
02:33:19.000 And we've been here for generations.
02:33:20.000 And they go, Then sell us a piece of your land.
02:33:23.000 So they hack off a chunk of it and give it, and they sell it off to try and pay their taxes.
02:33:27.000 Every year to pay their taxes, they hack off a chunk, a half acre, an acre, and eventually the family plot is gone to the benefit of young people who did not build it and aren't in that family.
02:33:38.000 Now, I believe Americans have a right to transfer their wealth to their children because if you don't have that, people won't work hard.
02:33:45.000 They'll say, there's no point.
02:33:47.000 This is the fundamental issue with command economies.
02:33:51.000 When you tell people, Everyone in a small town, no matter how hard you work, you're all going to get paid the same.
02:33:58.000 What happens?
02:33:59.000 The people who can do well say, What's the point?
02:34:01.000 I'm not getting anything.
02:34:02.000 And everybody drags down.
02:34:04.000 It's literally what we saw with the Soviet Union.
02:34:06.000 So when you tell people there's no point to build a future for your children, we're taking half of it when you die, and then we're going to keep raising the price on your taxes and then come and seize your land by gunpoint, people stop trying to build things for their children.
02:34:20.000 All because you think as a young person, you deserve.
02:34:23.000 You have a right to the property owned by those who came before you who aren't in your family.
02:34:26.000 No, you're making an argument for a command economy because, again, property taxes have been a reality in this country for 300 years.
02:34:33.000 And then now we have a generation that comes along that, by the way, has been selfish at basically every turn.
02:34:37.000 Now they're saying we're tired of paying taxes.
02:34:39.000 That's nothing to do with a command economy.
02:34:41.000 Yes, it does.
02:34:41.000 Because, once again, you're asking the government to intervene to insulate yourself from market realities.
02:34:45.000 No, I'm saying to remove government force and intervention from market realities.
02:34:50.000 No, you're not.
02:34:51.000 Property taxes are baked into the asset of your home.
02:34:51.000 I am.
02:34:54.000 I am saying the value of your home should be the only thing related to whether or not you want to sell or can live there.
02:35:03.000 You should own the land, not the government.
02:35:03.000 No, the value.
02:35:06.000 But again, it requires you to invest.
02:35:12.000 I'm sorry.
02:35:15.000 Saying it's command economics is just flat out wrong.
02:35:19.000 I'm saying your argument is far closer to command economics than the free market argument.
02:35:24.000 It's literally not.
02:35:25.000 The idea that the government can jump with a gun and say, give me money or your land is mine.
02:35:28.000 Is command economics.
02:35:29.000 No, that's just taxes.
02:35:31.000 That's literally command economics.
02:35:32.000 You're making an anarchist argument.
02:35:33.000 Do you know what command economics means?
02:35:35.000 You're making an anarchist argument.
02:35:36.000 You're saying taxes.
02:35:37.000 I said it was a libertarian argument, yes.
02:35:39.000 You're making an anarchist argument.
02:35:40.000 No, I'm making a libertarian argument.
02:35:42.000 Anarchists don't believe in taxes.
02:35:42.000 No, they don't.
02:35:43.000 Libertarians believe in taxes, but in the land.
02:35:45.000 And may or may not be property tax.
02:35:47.000 The idea that the government can come to you on your land and point a gun at you and say you will be arrested unless you pay us and we will seize your land is literally command economy.
02:35:56.000 So what happens if I don't pay my income tax?
02:35:59.000 You will get arrested.
02:36:00.000 Yes.
02:36:00.000 So, am I not sovereign over my labor?
02:36:01.000 Yeah, you are not.
02:36:03.000 You're an anarchist.
02:36:03.000 Correct.
02:36:04.000 We live.
02:36:05.000 I did not say I opposed income taxes.
02:36:07.000 No, no.
02:36:08.000 We live in a mixed economy.
02:36:10.000 It is not a free market laissez faire capitalist system.
02:36:12.000 So, if we're abolishing property taxes but keeping income taxes because I'm not sovereign over my property, then that means I'm sovereign over my property but not sovereign over my labor.
02:36:20.000 No.
02:36:20.000 And I actually would think we largely should remove income taxes.
02:36:24.000 I agree with that.
02:36:25.000 I think it's one step in the general battle.
02:36:27.000 So, if the business is trying to sell a product but they have to.
02:36:31.000 Factor in taxes?
02:36:32.000 Are they not sovereign over that product they're selling?
02:36:34.000 I mean, this is the logic.
02:36:35.000 I think there's an argument.
02:36:36.000 This is a natural rights argument.
02:36:37.000 I don't think anyone's saying that government doesn't have a right to tax because government has to produce revenue to be able to provide certain services that we as individuals could not provide for ourselves, right?
02:36:47.000 Like roads, infrastructure, things like that.
02:36:49.000 I do think government gets a little bit too big when it tries to provide things for us that the founders would have never said government should not be providing for us.
02:36:58.000 But I will say this I think sales tax, I think that's a perfectly fine tax.
02:37:04.000 Why?
02:37:04.000 Because it's a user tax.
02:37:05.000 If I don't want something or if I don't want to pay taxes, I don't go out and buy that thing.
02:37:10.000 But if you want to sell and trade, then there's a tax that goes into that.
02:37:14.000 I think that's a lot more of a fair tax than.
02:37:17.000 Your income that you have no choice.
02:37:19.000 You have to work, right?
02:37:21.000 Your property, you need to own property.
02:37:22.000 You're going to own property.
02:37:24.000 Those are things that are God given rights.
02:37:26.000 And morality is not black and white, it's a gradient, meaning property tax is a tax on unrealized gains.
02:37:32.000 And what happens is somebody buys a house for $100,000, the neighborhood gentrifies for some reason.
02:37:38.000 And now a guy who makes $50,000 a year is told he's got to pay $20,000 in taxes for the year or lose his home.
02:37:44.000 So his only choice is to sell.
02:37:46.000 And then someone comes in and offers him below market under pressure because if he does it, the state will seize his property.
02:37:52.000 That's command economics.
02:37:54.000 Now, this means that tax is a problem.
02:37:58.000 Income tax does not mean you are going to be put in jail and lose your ability to live in the home that your grandfather built for you.
02:38:05.000 It is an absurdity.
02:38:06.000 It is insane that you can build a house with your own bare hands and the government says, Looks like you made something of value.
02:38:14.000 You got to pay us $10,000 a year now because you built something.
02:38:18.000 That is literally command economics.
02:38:19.000 You know where they don't have property?
02:38:20.000 If this is truly the dream that I can just build a homestead and I have no responsibility to my community whatsoever.
02:38:26.000 Somalia is a great example.
02:38:27.000 Now, I wonder why you keep straw manning the argument instead of actually addressing it.
02:38:30.000 You're trying to absolve the argument you're making.
02:38:32.000 Arguing that property tax is a tax on unrealized gains and seizes the property from families is not an argument we should not have ties to our community.
02:38:40.000 You can go to church and tithe, or we can have, like he mentioned, sales tax or income tax.
02:38:45.000 And that can go to your town, city, state, or otherwise.
02:38:48.000 The problem is if you have the ratchet up income tax and sales tax to make up the property tax shortfall, you're just passing the tax burden's got to go somewhere.
02:38:48.000 But it's not.
02:38:56.000 It's actually quite important to young people.
02:38:57.000 Let's factor this in.
02:38:59.000 Don't make a lot of money at work, but you own your house.
02:38:59.000 You.
02:39:02.000 You can live there and no one can kick you out.
02:39:04.000 If you don't work, you don't pay the income tax.
02:39:07.000 If you don't buy, you don't pay, but no one can steal your home from you.
02:39:10.000 They can put a lien on your house.
02:39:10.000 They can.
02:39:12.000 If you don't pay your interest, the IRS will put a lien on your house.
02:39:14.000 If you're not working, you don't pay income tax.
02:39:18.000 Okay.
02:39:18.000 Right.
02:39:18.000 If you have zero bills whatsoever, then that's fine.
02:39:21.000 No.
02:39:21.000 I'm just saying that property tax is forced upon you and it's a do it or we take it from you, where income tax is when you engage in a behavior, we take a piece of it.
02:39:30.000 See, one is a tax.
02:39:32.000 So, this is the problem with unrealized gains taxes, which includes property tax.
02:39:36.000 You do not have the money, we want it.
02:39:39.000 Income taxes, you made the money, we get a piece.
02:39:42.000 There's a degree of immorality from the lowest level of immorality to the highest level.
02:39:48.000 Property taxes is high because you are taxing a person on something they don't have.
02:39:54.000 Whereas, income taxes, upon receipt of the money, you say, I get a percentage.
02:39:59.000 I'm not a big fan of.
02:40:00.000 Of how these tax systems work, but income tax is substantially better than property tax.
02:40:05.000 I think I'm viewing this the complete opposite, where I'm like, at least property tax is defensible because as the value of my property accrues, which by the way, you can sell your home and then just make all that money and then move elsewhere.
02:40:15.000 So it's not like we're just robbing people.
02:40:18.000 I got to finish here.
02:40:19.000 But the difference here is with income tax, I view that as far less defensible, quite frankly, because to your point, the government's not adding any value in the In the agreement between me exchanging my labor and exchange for currency.
02:40:34.000 And I say the same thing with the property tax.
02:40:35.000 It's a moot point.
02:40:36.000 No, the property tax, again, the municipality that you live in adds value to your home.
02:40:42.000 Yes.
02:40:42.000 So there are local income taxes, state income taxes.
02:40:45.000 But what I will say, I will say this.
02:40:47.000 I will say this.
02:40:48.000 What his point was that you have something with income tax.
02:40:51.000 They're taking a percentage of something you have.
02:40:53.000 Your unrealized gains, you don't have that.
02:40:55.000 That's not tangible.
02:40:56.000 You can't go to the bank and say, hey, my house is now worth $400,000, so I need to pay more to the government.
02:41:02.000 So you could have someone living in a property on fixed income, and now the government says, hey, you're worth more on paper.
02:41:08.000 And they say, but I don't have it.
02:41:09.000 Look, we got to go to callers, but I'm going to say this.
02:41:12.000 One of our members, what would happen?
02:41:15.000 He blew himself up?
02:41:16.000 Is that what the story was?
02:41:17.000 They were trying to take his house and then.
02:41:18.000 He was an old man on a fixed income who could not pay the taxes.
02:41:22.000 And he was begging for help because the government threatened him with guns to kick an old man out of his home.
02:41:28.000 And he doesn't have money.
02:41:30.000 So he blew it up.
02:41:31.000 I agree.
02:41:31.000 That sucks.
02:41:32.000 But what I'm arguing is what's going to happen is the tax burden gets shifted on the young people because boomers want to absolve themselves of all responsibility.
02:41:40.000 That is a different problem requiring a non command economy solution.
02:41:43.000 You're saying we've got to abolish income tax.
02:41:45.000 Okay, I agree.
02:41:45.000 Well, someone's got to pay for the police department.
02:41:47.000 Someone's got to pay for the fire department.
02:41:48.000 I did not say abolish income tax.
02:41:50.000 Why does somebody have to pay for the police department?
02:41:51.000 Because.
02:41:52.000 Isn't the Second Amendment given to us that we protect ourselves?
02:41:55.000 Why have we relied too much, like so much on police?
02:41:58.000 Oh, we got, like, protect yourself, protect your family.
02:42:00.000 The police are going to mediate a property dispute, among other things.
02:42:03.000 It's not just about home defense.
02:42:04.000 But does it need to be, like, we always say police and fire, right?
02:42:07.000 Police and fire, police and fire.
02:42:08.000 Oh my gosh.
02:42:09.000 What are we saying?
02:42:10.000 Government has to protect us.
02:42:12.000 That is not government's job.
02:42:14.000 Government's job was to secure our liberties, our rights, the God given rights, right?
02:42:19.000 Not to be our protector.
02:42:21.000 We should protect ourselves.
02:42:22.000 Now, Well, the police is.
02:42:24.000 We got to go to callers, but I got a question for you, Tate.
02:42:27.000 Let's say you buy a house for $100,000.
02:42:30.000 A year later, due to inflation and other factors, it's now $250,000.
02:42:32.000 Your property tax increases by two and a half times.
02:42:36.000 So let's say, you know, Illinois got particularly high.
02:42:38.000 You're going to be paying like $10,000 for the year, but you don't make that much money.
02:42:42.000 What do you do?
02:42:43.000 Sell my house and move to a state.
02:42:44.000 Okay.
02:42:45.000 What if you can't?
02:42:45.000 Because the market's down and property values, nobody can sell them.
02:42:49.000 Houses are falling off the market.
02:42:50.000 Like if you live in the hood?
02:42:52.000 No.
02:42:52.000 Like if you live in Nashville right now where no one can sell their houses.
02:42:55.000 You can sell your house in Nashville.
02:42:56.000 No, you can't.
02:42:57.000 Yes, it is because boomers.
02:42:58.000 It's the highest possible price.
02:42:58.000 No, you can't take.
02:43:00.000 Hey, you can't.
02:43:01.000 There is nowhere in this country where you can't sell your home.
02:43:03.000 You are wrong.
02:43:04.000 Unless you're in the hood.
02:43:05.000 You are wrong.
02:43:06.000 You want to know how I know?
02:43:07.000 I have family in Nashville.
02:43:08.000 They have no problem selling their home.
02:43:10.000 You are factually incorrect.
02:43:11.000 You are wrong.
02:43:12.000 People in Nashville cannot sell their homes.
02:43:14.000 Yes, Nashville homes are falling off the market because people can't sell them.
02:43:18.000 I'm one of them.
02:43:18.000 I own property in Nashville that can't sell.
02:43:21.000 The value is declining of the home, which I agree.
02:43:23.000 The assessor should pay for it.
02:43:24.000 And there is a mortgage on the property.
02:43:26.000 If I go any lower, I will owe the government and the bank at the same time.
02:43:31.000 So now we're mad at the banks because you took a mortgage?
02:43:33.000 No, I'm saying your solution makes no sense.
02:43:36.000 No, you're trying to insulate people from market realities.
02:43:39.000 No, you are.
02:43:42.000 You're arguing with 300 years of American history.
02:43:43.000 You can't just sell property, it's not a thing.
02:43:48.000 Yes, if you drop the price down, you can't sell a house for less than market.
02:43:52.000 You will get a tax burden.
02:43:54.000 You wouldn't.
02:43:55.000 Yeah, that sucks.
02:43:56.000 I fully respect that if you owned property, you would know these things.
02:43:59.000 And there's a problem that Gen Z can't own property because there is a property disparity because of how our system is set up.
02:44:07.000 But it is literally not possible to just decide to sell your house.
02:44:11.000 It's not real.
02:44:13.000 Well, you can't.
02:44:13.000 Okay.
02:44:14.000 It sucks if the property values in your area decline.
02:44:17.000 So you get a $300,000 mortgage, you put 20% down, you're 60K in.
02:44:17.000 I agree.
02:44:25.000 You owe property taxes.
02:44:26.000 They come and they assess you say, I can afford this.
02:44:28.000 The property value goes up based on assessment for local areas.
02:44:31.000 But then there's a market downturn.
02:44:33.000 Now you owe 50% more in your taxes.
02:44:36.000 The government says your property is worth $450, and you can sell it for less and go underwater on your mortgage and still owe your taxes for the year because you got to pay that before selling.
02:44:48.000 And no one wants to buy because we're underwater.
02:44:50.000 You're making an argument that the assessors are not evaluating these homes properly, which I agree with.
02:44:55.000 If the value of your home drops, the assessors are not.
02:44:57.000 I am making the argument that the idea that you can just sell your property.
02:45:02.000 I've got three properties on the market, and the market is dead, and I owe property taxes on an increased assessment.
02:45:08.000 Despite the fact nobody wants to buy the property, you're wrong.
02:45:11.000 Inflated assessments are terrible, but again, if you are in a scenario where you can't keep another problem of property taxes, okay, the assessment has more to do with the government's ability to carry out.
02:45:21.000 Well, if the government is corrupt on property taxes, then maybe we got to solve that problem, right?
02:45:26.000 Yeah, well, let's go do something.
02:45:27.000 Let's get our guns.
02:45:29.000 This is just anarchy.
02:45:31.000 The idea, again, you can't just up and sell your property and move.
02:45:36.000 Okay, now let's try this.
02:45:37.000 Usually you can.
02:45:38.000 I agree.
02:45:39.000 Let's try another point because we do have callers, but Let's try another point.
02:45:39.000 Sometimes people can't.
02:45:43.000 A guy works at a steel factory in East Chicago and he makes $60,000 a year.
02:45:49.000 His house is worth $200,000.
02:45:51.000 He can afford his taxes.
02:45:52.000 And then some casinos move in and the property value goes up because the area is gentrifying.
02:45:57.000 They say, just sell your property if you can't afford the taxes.
02:45:59.000 And he goes, but I have to live here to work at the factory.
02:46:02.000 I can't afford any of the houses in my neighborhood and the taxes are kicking me out.
02:46:06.000 I bought the house, I own it.
02:46:08.000 I can afford to live here at my salary, but the taxes are going up.
02:46:12.000 I can't afford And I can't afford to buy a house in my neighborhood, so I'm gonna have to move an hour outside of the city.
02:46:18.000 How am I supposed to get to the factory every day for work?
02:46:21.000 How about you let the man live in the house he bought, you don't tax him on it and threaten to take it from him, and you can tax what he has, not what he's living in?
02:46:30.000 Okay, but again, this is talking about insulating from market reality.
02:46:34.000 No, it's not.
02:46:35.000 Yes, it is.
02:46:35.000 You're saying.
02:46:36.000 Are you being willfully obtuse?
02:46:39.000 It is not a market reality if you own the house and the government threatens to seize it.
02:46:39.000 Do you think.
02:46:44.000 Do you think no one in American history has ever had to deal with this?
02:46:46.000 I mean, that is not the argument.
02:46:48.000 The argument is why should the government have the right to seize my house at gunpoint unless I liquidate my asset and go become homeless?
02:46:58.000 Because you have a responsibility to your community as a home.
02:47:00.000 Which can be accomplished by other means.
02:47:02.000 Maybe, but not by taxes.
02:47:04.000 And then that goes back to the initial problem okay, I agree.
02:47:08.000 If we're going to abolish property taxes, the municipal governments need to indicate that they can cut their budgets massively.
02:47:14.000 And they have not demonstrated it.
02:47:15.000 Would you agree that when you buy something on the market, Once you buy it on the market, you take it off of the market.
02:47:21.000 The market forces should not impact it.
02:47:23.000 Once it's off the market, if I go buy a valuable baseball card on the market, I pay something for it at market price.
02:47:31.000 I then own it.
02:47:32.000 Market forces should not impact what happens to that card in my possession.
02:47:37.000 But we got to bring callers.
02:47:39.000 We got 15 minutes and we'll try and squeeze them in.
02:47:41.000 There's no infrastructure upholding the value of your card.
02:47:44.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:47:45.000 Take callers before we go.
02:47:46.000 Ryan, major threat.
02:47:48.000 What's up, man?
02:47:48.000 What's up?
02:47:49.000 What's up, dude?
02:47:53.000 Let me on once again.
02:47:54.000 How's it going?
02:47:56.000 As you guys mentioned during the top of the show, the Bears are leaving Chicago, heading for Hammond, Indiana, allegedly.
02:48:05.000 Yeah.
02:48:07.000 Given all the incentives, we're talking bonds, real estate tax abatements, maybe even some eminent domain that's going to have to go in to make this deal happen.
02:48:18.000 Is the juice worth the squeeze to Indiana taxpayers?
02:48:22.000 Yeah, so let me take that.
02:48:23.000 So we have a stadium authority that we've set up.
02:48:27.000 It doesn't actually impact taxpayers.
02:48:30.000 What we've done is we've essentially created this bond securement that basically the bond's gonna fund it over 40 years.
02:48:39.000 And all of the tax revenue that is created by the stadium itself, so ticket sales, food, beverage tax from around the stadium, that will be used to pay down the bond.
02:48:49.000 The state is securing the bond, right?
02:48:52.000 But we're not actually taxing taxpayers to secure that bond.
02:48:57.000 We already have that in our stadium authority.
02:49:00.000 So essentially, we're saying, hey, we secure this.
02:49:02.000 Now, if the stadium were to go bankrupt, Then, yes, the taxpayers would be on the hook.
02:49:07.000 We don't think that's going to happen.
02:49:08.000 It hasn't happened for Lucas Oil.
02:49:09.000 It didn't happen for Gamebridge.
02:49:11.000 I mean, we've seen very successful stadium authority districts work in the state.
02:49:15.000 So, really, you're not actually, taxpayers aren't going to feel it.
02:49:18.000 The taxpayers that will, or the taxes that will go into it, is when you use the stadium for something, for tickets, food, sales in that area.
02:49:27.000 There will be food and beverage tax in that area.
02:49:30.000 But the majority of Hoosiers won't feel a squeeze at all.
02:49:33.000 I think it was brilliant.
02:49:35.000 What Indiana offered up to the Chicago Bears to come down.
02:49:39.000 I think the amount of money you guys are going to generate off of people from Chicago coming in to watch games is a massive transfer of wealth from the state of Illinois to Indiana just on a daily basis.
02:49:51.000 People buying gas, people buying bubble gum, people buying a can of iced tea.
02:49:55.000 That's going to go to Indiana.
02:49:56.000 Illinois fucked up royally in the most insane way.
02:50:00.000 I can't believe it.
02:50:01.000 They should have rolled out the red carpet for the Bears and said, We're going to build whatever you need.
02:50:04.000 They don't have the ability to do that.
02:50:06.000 I mean, it's not that they didn't want to do that, they were literally broke.
02:50:10.000 Illinois had no options.
02:50:13.000 They even essentially went back to their legislature, and the legislature tried to give the local municipalities the ability to raise more taxes.
02:50:20.000 And even the local municipalities couldn't do it because they were already taxed to death.
02:50:23.000 They were already living in debt.
02:50:24.000 And so for Indiana, we've been stewarding our finances really well over the last 25 years.
02:50:31.000 We actually have a surplus.
02:50:33.000 We were able then to secure this bond and be able to get this bond to be able to fund the $2 billion stadium.
02:50:41.000 And then it'll get paid down by the revenue from the stadium.
02:50:45.000 So if the stadium doesn't happen, then we don't need to worry about it.
02:50:49.000 If the stadium happens, then the revenue from the stadium will pay down that bond.
02:50:53.000 I think y'all are going to print money.
02:50:54.000 See, here's the thing Illinois doesn't, you don't know what you got until it's gone.
02:51:00.000 For you guys in Indiana, you're looking at here's how many people expect to come in per game.
02:51:05.000 Here's these people.
02:51:06.000 Concerts.
02:51:07.000 Oh, yeah.
02:51:08.000 Everything.
02:51:09.000 I mean, it's because it's a stadium.
02:51:10.000 Yeah, stadium.
02:51:10.000 So you've got gas.
02:51:10.000 Yeah.
02:51:12.000 You've got hotels, you've got even people moving in labor, so they're going to buy houses.
02:51:16.000 It's going to be a massive boom that Chicago can't easily factor.
02:51:21.000 They don't know how many houses, how many employees.
02:51:24.000 They have a general idea.
02:51:26.000 You guys can see and calculate moving in what we'll build.
02:51:31.000 Illinois is not going to know the full extent of the revenue they lose until it happens.
02:51:35.000 That's right.
02:51:36.000 Yeah.
02:51:37.000 And that's, Illinois is nuts.
02:51:39.000 Well, again, this is a result of good politics versus bad politics.
02:51:44.000 So, you know, this is the tale of two cities here, everyone.
02:51:47.000 So, learn the lesson.
02:51:48.000 I want Illinois to be prosperous and successful.
02:51:51.000 My heart breaks for the 33 counties in Illinois that are hurting so bad, they want to come to Indiana.
02:51:58.000 You know, I don't want that to be the case for our neighbors next door, but you keep electing bad people.
02:52:03.000 Depending on where you are in Chicago, it could be 15 minutes to 45 to come down to Hammond for a concert, for whatever, and it's going to be the new hotspot.
02:52:11.000 That's right.
02:52:11.000 And it's going to be easier to get to.
02:52:13.000 You're actually, I mean, you're only 25 miles, give or take, from.
02:52:17.000 From Chicago.
02:52:18.000 I mean, it's not that far.
02:52:19.000 No, half hour drive.
02:52:20.000 And so, and it's just gonna be easier parking.
02:52:23.000 There's gonna be easier access, better taxes.
02:52:26.000 I mean, it's.
02:52:27.000 I mean, look, most people were driving from the suburbs.
02:52:29.000 Like, if you're in the suburbs, you're driving to the city for a Bears game, half an hour as it is.
02:52:34.000 Now you're just looping around the city, avoiding the traffic.
02:52:36.000 It's great.
02:52:36.000 That's right.
02:52:38.000 Insane.
02:52:38.000 Illinois, you're nuts.
02:52:39.000 Well, congratulations, though.
02:52:41.000 I mean, I do think as much as I'm so, I'm met at Illinois, I am met in Indiana.
02:52:41.000 Thank you.
02:52:47.000 Indiana is doing right by our team and giving them a better space, and it's going to be a lot more comfortable, like you said, better parking, better hotels, less congestion.
02:52:55.000 I'm just pissed that Illinois, you know, I'm pissed at the circumstances because what's happening is.
02:53:02.000 You have a city, everybody loves the Bears.
02:53:04.000 The city says the Bears need a new stadium, here's what you need.
02:53:06.000 If 20 years ago, everybody in the city says, We love the Bears, we all agree.
02:53:11.000 The politicians say, Vote for me, and we're going to fund the Bears.
02:53:14.000 Then you get diversity.
02:53:16.000 People move from all over the country or from other countries, and they say, Bears?
02:53:21.000 What's that?
02:53:22.000 Why would we spend money on that?
02:53:24.000 And then Indiana.
02:53:25.000 Instead of saying the Bears, they're saying the Bears?
02:53:27.000 Exactly.
02:53:28.000 Yeah.
02:53:29.000 Anyway, I think that's a good point.
02:53:31.000 And I just, you know, to your point, Tim.
02:53:33.000 We've let diversity destroy our nation.
02:53:36.000 People don't understand the cultural heritage and the foundations that made the cities and the nations, this nation, good to begin with.
02:53:42.000 So, that's what happens.
02:53:43.000 So, protect our culture.
02:53:46.000 Yeah.
02:53:47.000 Is there anything else you want to add?
02:53:49.000 No, nothing I want to add.
02:53:51.000 Just shout out my homies in the Discord.
02:53:53.000 Gonthal, if you're listening, I am not going to hold your hand.
02:53:58.000 Right on, brother.
02:53:59.000 Can't hold hands.
02:54:00.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:54:01.000 Thanks, man.
02:54:04.000 All right.
02:54:05.000 Next up.
02:54:08.000 We got Kilo and a very slow Discord.
02:54:11.000 Kilo Charlie5, welcome back.
02:54:15.000 Y'all hearing me all right?
02:54:16.000 What's up, man?
02:54:19.000 All right.
02:54:21.000 I got a question for the whole panel.
02:54:21.000 I'll get right to it.
02:54:24.000 Regarding last night's suggestion that the Iran war was part of a deal for Saudi Arabia to resign the petrodollar, if this is the case, how would we ever change the regime in Iran?
02:54:36.000 We've already seen as soon as we take out the brass, they install another one.
02:54:39.000 The RGC is like one big giant cult.
02:54:43.000 I have to believe Trump knew this.
02:54:44.000 He's been talking about Iran for years.
02:54:47.000 We saw news coverage from like 20 years ago of him talking about Iran, and Trump is pretty savvy.
02:54:52.000 Anything short of glassing them is just a waste of tax dollars.
02:54:56.000 We know he'll never do that, so it seems more like a charade.
02:54:59.000 So my question is Is he naive enough to think he could actually affect change, or is there something else going on?
02:55:06.000 Always something else going on.
02:55:08.000 I wish we knew beyond classified information for a reason.
02:55:12.000 And no one's ever going to tell you the real reason for anything, let alone war.
02:55:18.000 Look, I think that no matter what the scenario, because the U.S. has plans for basically any scenario that you could imagine, like when Trump goes to the people at the Pentagon and he says, I need to know how to do this, like they don't say, We don't know.
02:55:42.000 So whether or not.
02:55:44.000 He, you know, whether or not it was actually possible, they laid out a plan.
02:55:51.000 Now, anytime you have a plan, like, you know, the enemy gets a vote.
02:55:57.000 But I imagine when the president comes to you, if you're, you know, you're in at the DOD, if you're the Secretary of War, if you're on the Joint Chiefs, they are obligated to be able to say, this is how we would do it.
02:56:13.000 And then it's up to the president's discretion to make the decision as to whether he believes.
02:56:17.000 The political goals can be accomplished.
02:56:21.000 So, whether there is or is not some kind of other agenda, I don't know.
02:56:27.000 But you know that the DOD, when the president comes and says, hey, how do we do this?
02:56:33.000 They have some kind of plan.
02:56:37.000 Whether, again, they probably don't say it's a guaranteed home run, but they have to tell him something.
02:56:46.000 And then it's up to the president's discretion as to if he believes it can be pulled off.
02:56:51.000 You don't go to the DOD and then the Joint Chiefs just say, We don't know.
02:56:57.000 You know, that just doesn't happen.
02:57:03.000 Yeah, I just had to believe.
02:57:03.000 You know?
02:57:06.000 He had to know that I ran.
02:57:09.000 I mean, the RGC, you know, as soon as you take one out, they're going to install another one and you'd have to take them all out.
02:57:16.000 The only way of doing that is with a nuke.
02:57:19.000 So it takes something more than just a conventional war.
02:57:24.000 I don't know that I agree with that about the necessity of nuclear weapons, especially considering nowadays they can use the Hellfire missile that has blades on it to take out individuals.
02:57:39.000 The idea, the days of needing to nuke an entire city, I don't know that that's accomplishing any goal other than ensuring that the whole world condemns you.
02:57:54.000 You know, when you have the ability to take out individuals, I think that the possibility of being able to take a specific group of people out becomes far more realistic.
02:58:08.000 Now, obviously, it's not simple, and they probably underestimated how deep the bench was in Iran.
02:58:17.000 But I think that a nuke is just a way to, or will end up just.
02:58:24.000 Putting the rest, you know, having the rest of the world condemn the United States, making Iran definitely the underdog.
02:58:31.000 It'll give them the ability to say, look at how big and bad the United States is, the most powerful country in the world, and they used a nuclear weapon.
02:58:38.000 This was a taboo since the end of World War II.
02:58:41.000 There are way more negatives with using a nuclear weapon first than there are positives.
02:58:46.000 And I don't even think that a nuclear weapon would achieve the goals of taking out all of the IRGC because, again, I think they have a real deep bench and they're not all sitting around the same table.
02:59:00.000 Oh, yeah.
02:59:01.000 I wasn't advocating for a nuke.
02:59:02.000 I just said that anything short of that would, without putting boots on the ground and sending in conventional troops, I don't know of any way they're going to get rid of all of them because they're so entrenched.
02:59:17.000 And like you said, they're spread out.
02:59:20.000 They're not just sitting around a table.
02:59:21.000 Yeah.
02:59:22.000 I mean, I don't think that boots on the ground would be a good idea either.
02:59:26.000 And I know you're not advocating that.
02:59:28.000 But I don't think that, I'm not even sure that boots on the ground would work.
02:59:32.000 I think probably the biggest thing that I would say is that you need the Persian people to rise up and basically take back their own country.
02:59:41.000 And America can't be the savior for every nation that is in tyranny.
02:59:45.000 We can protect our own interests, and I think we did by blowing the crap out of them so they don't get a nuclear bomb.
02:59:49.000 And I think that was good that we did it.
02:59:51.000 But at the same time, as much as it's heartbreaking to say this, if the Persian people won't stand up and go to war against the IRGC and throw off their chains of bondage, then there's nothing really we can do for them.
03:00:04.000 And I think they're going to have to.
03:00:07.000 We had to do it.
03:00:08.000 Our ancestors did it for our freedom and liberty, and they're going to have to do the same thing.
03:00:12.000 And it's going to cost them a lot.
03:00:14.000 It's going to create a lot of bloodshed.
03:00:15.000 But how much do you value freedom?
03:00:17.000 Do you got anything you want to follow up or anything you want to add?
03:00:23.000 No, I'll just give a shout out.
03:00:26.000 You can check out my channel, The Black Sheep Prepper, on X at BSP underscore prepper.
03:00:33.000 And shout out to all the guys in the Discord.
03:00:36.000 And y'all have a good evening.
03:00:37.000 Cheers, guys.
03:00:38.000 Thanks for going in, brother.
03:00:39.000 Thanks, you, man.
03:00:40.000 Yep.
03:00:41.000 Last but not least, we have Mike Ner.
03:00:41.000 All right.
03:00:45.000 What's up, Mike Ner?
03:00:46.000 Nothing until Discord loads.
03:00:49.000 Hey, there you are.
03:00:51.000 There you go.
03:00:52.000 Hi, thank you so much for taking my call.
03:00:54.000 I know we're kind of short on time, so I'll just try to get right to it.
03:00:58.000 Mr. Lieutenant Governor, I am an Indiana resident and I actually helped pass out some of your flyers, I am a retired Hamden firefighter.
03:01:09.000 But as I am going back to school to Indiana University, here's my question.
03:01:18.000 As a student at Indiana University, what is Indiana doing to prevent public universities from simply Renaming and rebranding DEI requirements rather than actually eliminating them.
03:01:29.000 Yeah.
03:01:30.000 Yeah.
03:01:30.000 Well, thanks, Mike.
03:01:31.000 Appreciate you, man.
03:01:32.000 And, you know, appreciate all you're doing for our state.
03:01:35.000 We, you know, the governor has been very clear.
03:01:37.000 I've been clear.
03:01:38.000 We're not putting up with DEI.
03:01:40.000 Now we have to know it's there.
03:01:41.000 And you're right.
03:01:42.000 The schools are not stupid.
03:01:44.000 They will just rebrand it, hide it until they can get rid of our administration and hopefully get a woke administration to come in afterwards.
03:01:51.000 And they'll just bring it right back to the surface again.
03:01:54.000 So we need to know when these things are happening.
03:01:57.000 So, If you see stuff like that where you're noticing, hey, this is just a rebrand, reach out to my office, let me know.
03:02:03.000 We'll take it right to where it needs to go, which is the trustees.
03:02:06.000 Now, I'll tell you this the legislature saw this happening in Indiana, and they basically gave the governor the authority to replace the entire board of trustees.
03:02:15.000 And the governor has done that, and we have gotten rid of all the woke trustees.
03:02:20.000 And so now IU is starting to turn the corner back towards common sense education policy.
03:02:27.000 And I think you got a good board of trustees.
03:02:29.000 They want to know when this stuff is happening because they'll root it out.
03:02:32.000 Now, they have to be sensitive and careful because they can't just go nuclear because you have all these tenured woke commie professors that are still there.
03:02:41.000 And if they create a storm, it'll blow back and they've got to kind of be pretty surgical with it, but they're doing it.
03:02:47.000 And I want you to know they're finding that stuff, they're rooting it out, they're getting rid of some of these professors one at a time that shouldn't be there, but they're trying to do it in a way that doesn't spark a firestorm because if they do that, it just creates this anarchist, chaotic movement down at IU, which then.
03:03:03.000 You know, it makes it harder to do so.
03:03:05.000 So, I'm seeing a lot of good things, but there's also more things under the surface that we've got to know about.
03:03:10.000 So, if you find it, if you see anything like that while you're there, I mean, be the whistleblower, man.
03:03:14.000 Let us know.
03:03:14.000 I mean, we'll obviously you can leave your name out of it, we'll keep you anonymous, but you know, tell my office so we can get it to the attention of the trustees.
03:03:23.000 No, no, thank you so much.
03:03:24.000 I appreciate all the effort that's going into this.
03:03:27.000 I literally had a counselor when I asked her, it's like with everything coming down with all these DEI requirements and diversity, and she.
03:03:39.000 I'm sorry, was somebody going to say something?
03:03:40.000 Wait, no, no, go ahead.
03:03:42.000 I thought we lost you.
03:03:42.000 Keep going.
03:03:43.000 What did she say?
03:03:46.000 Well, I asked her about some of the requirements that they'd be changing since some of the DIs would be being phased out.
03:03:51.000 She's like, no, anything that's diversity is just going to be renamed and rebranded.
03:03:55.000 That's exactly what she said.
03:03:57.000 But thank you for all the effort that you and Governor Braun are putting into this.
03:04:03.000 I really do appreciate it.
03:04:04.000 Well, hey, thanks, Mike.
03:04:05.000 Appreciate you, man.
03:04:06.000 And yeah, just let us know.
03:04:08.000 And honestly, even that counselor, if she's saying stuff like that, I mean, email me, tell me her name, and then I'll get it over to the trustees and we'll just say, hey, you need to check out even this counselor.
03:04:17.000 I mean, that's not appropriate.
03:04:19.000 If she's saying we're just going to rename it, she's thwarting the will of the people because the elected officials have put it in the policies to say we're not doing this stuff anymore.
03:04:29.000 That makes a lot of sense.
03:04:31.000 I appreciate it.
03:04:31.000 Thank you.
03:04:32.000 Yeah, thank you.
03:04:34.000 Rana, man, you want to shout anything out?
03:04:37.000 Yeah, I'd actually like, for once, I'd like to shout out my.
03:04:40.000 I'm going to echo.
03:04:43.000 I'd like to shout out my brother, Stephen Eichner.
03:04:45.000 He's actually running for the county's third district, and it's a heavily blue area.
03:04:50.000 So, if anybody wants to give him a chance, you know, to maybe give a Republican, a good, strong Republican, a chance in a heavily blue area, it'd be Stephen Eichner, S T E P H E N, AI C H N E R.
03:05:06.000 He has his website set up.
03:05:07.000 If anybody wants to donate, he probably could use all the help he can get.
03:05:11.000 Hey, what county are you in?
03:05:14.000 I'm in Jasper County and my brother is up in Lake County.
03:05:18.000 In Lake County.
03:05:19.000 Okay.
03:05:19.000 So, Lake County.
03:05:20.000 So, up in Hammond, Gary area.
03:05:22.000 So, all right.
03:05:23.000 So, yeah, get out there and support him.
03:05:25.000 Let's get Republicans elected in Lake County to turn it back.
03:05:28.000 Jasper's doing well.
03:05:29.000 You guys got some good leaders in Jasper.
03:05:32.000 But, yeah, we definitely want to help Lake County as much as we can.
03:05:37.000 No, thank you so much, Tony.
03:05:39.000 I appreciate it.
03:05:39.000 Yeah.
03:05:40.000 Thank you.
03:05:40.000 Right on, man.
03:05:41.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
03:05:43.000 No, thank you.
03:05:44.000 Have a good night.
03:05:45.000 Take care.
03:05:47.000 We are back tomorrow, as we always are.
03:05:49.000 And coming on the show tomorrow is Jeremy Hambly, the quartering.
03:05:53.000 I know there's going to be a lot of people who are mad, and he's got, I don't know.
03:05:56.000 I don't know.
03:05:56.000 You know, there's some controversy, and they're going to get mad at us.
03:05:59.000 Well, Jeremy's coming on the show.
03:05:59.000 It's going to be fun.
03:06:01.000 We'll see you tomorrow morning, everybody.
03:06:02.000 Thanks for hanging out.
03:06:03.000 And yeah, we'll see you then.