Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 29, 2026


Bill gates WARNS Of ONE BILLION DEATHS, Trump Launches US AI Website | Timcast IRL

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00:02:35.000 Donald Trump today said he's got a morally binding AI agreement with all the big tech wizards who came down to DC to talk about why it's so important to have AI.
00:02:45.000 He launched americo.gov, a U.S. government AI website.
00:02:50.000 It's actually kind of funny.
00:02:50.000 We'll mess around with it and see, we'll poke at it and see what we can do.
00:02:55.000 I wonder if it can solve math questions for us.
00:02:57.000 And then the big sensational story, of course, is more AI doomerism.
00:03:01.000 Bill Gates came out and said AI has the capacity to kill billions of people.
00:03:08.000 Of people or cause billions of deaths.
00:03:11.000 And yeah, I guess, you know, I consider myself to be a kind of doomery on the AI stuff, but the cat's out of the bag, the gene's out of the bottle, and you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
00:03:23.000 So I don't know what you're going to do about it.
00:03:25.000 We'll talk about that.
00:03:26.000 Then, of course, Trump announced this big steel plant.
00:03:29.000 Everyone's all excited about it and they're putting a bunch of money in it, except it's owned by India.
00:03:34.000 It's an Indian conglomerate that owns it, so sure.
00:03:37.000 And then I got good news.
00:03:39.000 For those that are concerned about Democrats winning the midterms, fear not.
00:03:42.000 Mike Johnson has come out and promised if you elect Republicans, they're going to do exactly the same thing they're doing right now go home, not vote on stuff, not pass the Save Act.
00:03:55.000 So, oh boy, Mike Johnson just pulled a Kamala Harris, and I'm supposed to be excited about that?
00:04:00.000 Yeah, well, I'm not.
00:04:02.000 So, we're going to talk about that.
00:04:04.000 We got a bunch of stuff going on, my friends.
00:04:06.000 Smash the like button, share the show with everyone joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more.
00:04:10.000 We got Ben Dykes.
00:04:11.000 Thank you.
00:04:12.000 Thank you for having me, Ben Dykes.
00:04:14.000 Retired Navy submarine veteran.
00:04:16.000 The whole Mike Johnson thing, it reminds me there was a phrase World War II Japanese submarine captain said the beatings will continue until morale improves.
00:04:24.000 Yeah.
00:04:25.000 Hello, Republican Party.
00:04:27.000 You know, they're going to get cooked.
00:04:28.000 I can't believe he came out and said this.
00:04:29.000 And I'm just like, what?
00:04:30.000 I don't understand.
00:04:32.000 How am I, you know, I was saying this earlier.
00:04:35.000 If a guy's robbing a bank, you know, of course I'm mad at the guy who robbed the bank.
00:04:39.000 You know what I mean?
00:04:40.000 But if the police that we are paying to stop this just watch it happen and do nothing, Well, sooner or later, I'm mad at the cops.
00:04:47.000 I'm like, we know bank robbers exist.
00:04:49.000 We want them stopped.
00:04:50.000 You told us you'd stop.
00:04:52.000 So when we all vote Republican and we get a trifecta, and then they're just sitting on their hands being like, you know, we're going to do exactly the same thing, sit on our hands.
00:05:01.000 Why would I go on vote for them?
00:05:03.000 No, no, I understand people are like, Democrats are worse.
00:05:05.000 I'm like, I know, but Republicans aren't stopping them.
00:05:07.000 So it's like, am I supposed to vote for a speed bump?
00:05:10.000 You know, that's been the argument for forever, honestly.
00:05:15.000 Do you think Republicans have been.
00:05:17.000 Maybe inadvertently trained to just sit back and let Trump do everything?
00:05:22.000 Because it seems like Trump's not doing anything.
00:05:23.000 And you're exactly right.
00:05:24.000 I mean, are they waiting for him?
00:05:26.000 I don't know.
00:05:28.000 I'm going to need an explanation as to why we're focusing on the war with Iran instead of the domestic crisis in our political system.
00:05:34.000 Jack Smith just testified today and he said, Trump's a criminal.
00:05:37.000 He broke the law and he deserves to be in prison.
00:05:39.000 The man testified and he goes, This is truthfully and factually.
00:05:42.000 And I'm sitting here being like, This guy engaged in hardcore malicious prosecution against run of the mill, regular old folk who had no idea what was going on.
00:05:49.000 And he stands, and he sits there with.
00:05:52.000 Just, he's a demon.
00:05:54.000 He is an evil man.
00:05:55.000 And Trump's doing nothing.
00:05:56.000 And the DOJ is doing nothing.
00:05:58.000 And I'm just like, okay, you know, I'm sure Iran matters.
00:06:02.000 Not to me.
00:06:03.000 Explain it to me.
00:06:04.000 This is bad leadership.
00:06:05.000 If we had good leadership, they'd explain why it is they've prioritized the things they've prioritized.
00:06:10.000 But let's save that for the show.
00:06:11.000 Thank you for joining us.
00:06:13.000 It's going to be fun.
00:06:14.000 We got the boys hanging out.
00:06:15.000 What's up, everybody?
00:06:16.000 Hey, man.
00:06:17.000 Good to see you.
00:06:18.000 What's up, guys?
00:06:19.000 I'm glad to have you all here.
00:06:21.000 Yeah, I've emerged from the dungeon where I was.
00:06:24.000 Spending my days designing and letting the.
00:06:26.000 I think Ian's been spending too much time with the machine.
00:06:28.000 So much time, dude.
00:06:29.000 He's in a relationship with it now.
00:06:30.000 It's crazy.
00:06:31.000 You're designing apps, huh?
00:06:32.000 Yeah, apps, programs, libraries, modules.
00:06:35.000 Because my sense is in the future, you're not going to need apps because your AI agent is going to be able to go to a website and do what you want.
00:06:44.000 In fact, just customize apps.
00:06:46.000 The AI will do all of it.
00:06:47.000 Right now, what we're at is the age of Napster.
00:06:49.000 Remember Napster 2000, where you would say, I want to download a song?
00:06:52.000 It would take 13 hours at two kilobytes a second.
00:06:54.000 The night before I'd.
00:06:55.000 And then if someone called you, you'd lose it.
00:06:57.000 So the night before I'd queue up, it's how it is with the AI right now.
00:06:57.000 You would.
00:07:00.000 I'd queue up all these programs, it starts building.
00:07:02.000 And then it takes, I sit there for four hours while it works.
00:07:05.000 It's gonna be so fast, like Spotify, where you'll go to a website $19.99 a month, you log in, you tell you, hey, make me a movie or a game of this, it makes it on the fly.
00:07:13.000 It's gonna be fast.
00:07:14.000 And to your point, Phil, I counter Claude right now.
00:07:19.000 Inside of Claude, I can say, make an app that does a thing, and it'll pop up in the app.
00:07:24.000 If I go in Claude and I say, make me an interactive map showing all voter data for the last 20 years, it'll go, okay, it'll print it out and then appear in that box.
00:07:31.000 It doesn't need to go anywhere or do anything, it's doing it itself.
00:07:34.000 But that's my point.
00:07:35.000 So if you want your agent, To rent you a car, right?
00:07:39.000 Or plan something or whatever, then it'll go to do it.
00:07:43.000 So basically, apps are going to be in your phone.
00:07:47.000 I want to save a lot of this for the show, but I'm going to say it will not go to websites because it'll effectively be an Amazon warehouse.
00:07:54.000 Sure.
00:07:55.000 There's going to be server side backends for Hertz.
00:07:59.000 And there will be no graphical user interface because you won't use it.
00:08:02.000 This is really the crux of the point that I'm making there won't be apps anymore because the AI is going to do it for you.
00:08:08.000 There won't be websites either.
00:08:09.000 Probably.
00:08:10.000 It'll just be, it'll ping their server and then establish the purchase.
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00:09:56.000 Let's jump into the news, my friends, from the Washington Post.
00:10:00.000 Bill Gates warns of a billion deaths if AI goes wrong.
00:10:06.000 I wonder if warns is the right word and threatens might be the better word, because I'm not too sure that Bill Gates would be upset if a billion people died.
00:10:17.000 He might be like, Oh, it's such a tragedy that we're getting exactly what we've wanted.
00:10:21.000 So that's just my feeling.
00:10:23.000 I feel like you said this before, just with different circumstances and context.
00:10:27.000 I don't know the full context.
00:10:28.000 I'd love to find out, but you don't see it.
00:10:30.000 Well, let me read it for you.
00:10:31.000 Yeah.
00:10:32.000 Former Microsoft chief executive Bill Gates, we don't need, we know this, said AI could be powerful enough to cause mass devastation for the human race.
00:10:39.000 Quote, AI is certainly powerful enough to drive events that, you know, cause a billion deaths, he said, in response to a question about whether technology could end humanity.
00:10:49.000 So even though it's pretty hard to get to 100%, there's never been a weapon as powerful as the combination of people with ill intent using the latest AI tools.
00:10:57.000 He added that he welcomed a recent discussion within the tech industry about the potential dangers of AI.
00:11:01.000 The problem is.
00:11:02.000 The rest of the world is either discounting this or just thinking of this as competition.
00:11:06.000 Well, I'm going to go ahead and say this.
00:11:08.000 I think the real.
00:11:09.000 So there's a bunch of conspiracy theories.
00:11:10.000 I'm going to go ahead and settle on they've run out of money.
00:11:14.000 And the reason why I'm settling on this is that I, other members of our team, and people that I know have been complaining that OpenAI has nerfed all of their models and they've gotten really bad for some reason.
00:11:28.000 So I'll give you a few examples.
00:11:29.000 We obviously use it for image generation, we don't use it for the entirety of thumbnails, we use it for.
00:11:35.000 Images that we will place in the background, like we'll want an illustration.
00:11:39.000 Well, I'll tell you what, two weeks ago, three weeks ago, I could go on and say, make an image and describe it perfectly.
00:11:46.000 And I would say, include this text and it would make a full thumbnail.
00:11:49.000 Boom, done.
00:11:50.000 I'd say, Babys new font.
00:11:51.000 That's what we use.
00:11:52.000 I'd say, black shadowed outline, make these words in yellow.
00:11:55.000 What it does now is it renders what looks like a paintbrush image.
00:12:01.000 And then it sends me a download link instead of actually showing the image.
00:12:05.000 And then I open it.
00:12:06.000 And I'm like, this looks like it was made in paintbrush by a 13 year old.
00:12:09.000 I'm not kidding.
00:12:10.000 It'll be Comic Sans font with like a blue box made with a simple box tool, and it'll be like stick figure illustrations.
00:12:17.000 And then I say to it, Are you insane?
00:12:19.000 Why are you doing this?
00:12:20.000 So this has happened numerous times, and it'll go, Oh, I'm sorry.
00:12:23.000 Let me actually do my job.
00:12:25.000 Tons of people I've seen posts online talking about this.
00:12:28.000 Kellen was mentioning the same thing that for some reason it stopped generating images and started doing this weird thing.
00:12:35.000 Now, as for the game development we're doing with Astra, when Astra first dropped, It was God tier.
00:12:42.000 It was insane.
00:12:44.000 I mean, I got four years done in a week.
00:12:46.000 Now, it's still fast.
00:12:50.000 It's still remarkably fast.
00:12:51.000 But now, that week of work, it's like that time is multiplied by four.
00:12:58.000 So the amount of work that I could get done with a single prompt, it was speeding through the game.
00:13:02.000 Now it takes a whole day to do, like something changed.
00:13:06.000 And I think they've turned everything down because they're like, we've run out of money to operate this stuff.
00:13:11.000 And I think the reason they're going to the government and screaming the end is nigh is because they've run out of money for this.
00:13:15.000 That's been one of the conspiracy theories.
00:13:17.000 Bill Gates, he's not on the level that Sam Altman and Dario Amode are, were heads of like ChatGPT and Claude, you know, the other one.
00:13:28.000 What are the names of these companies?
00:13:30.000 OpenAI.
00:13:30.000 OpenAI and then the other one.
00:13:32.000 It has mythos.
00:13:34.000 Claude.
00:13:35.000 Anthropic and OpenAI.
00:13:35.000 Anthropic.
00:13:37.000 Bill Gates is so far behind with Copilot, their AI sucks.
00:13:40.000 So he's whining in the background, like I told you.
00:13:43.000 But You're right, Tim.
00:13:44.000 I think they are running out of money.
00:13:46.000 That's why these companies are going to do IPOs.
00:13:47.000 And some people are like, yo, when they do IPOs, you're no longer going to have subscription models because we are burning through their electricity bills on their servers right now, using their hundreds of hours a week.
00:13:57.000 They're going to go to token usage where you pay per clip, which is insane because then the Chinese are going to release an open model that devastates Anthropic and OpenAI to completely override our economy.
00:14:09.000 The Chinese want the American economy destroyed.
00:14:12.000 So they will release a model that allows us to destroy our own economy.
00:14:16.000 By giving the individual total power with their AIs.
00:14:18.000 And I think that Anthropic and ChatGPT are kind of being told by the American government slow down because your tech will destroy our economy.
00:14:26.000 Well, the government's not telling them to slow down.
00:14:29.000 Donald Trump has made it very clear that he doesn't want an AI slowdown.
00:14:34.000 The administration is very much against any kind of slowdown by the Frontier labs.
00:14:40.000 That's where I think this goes.
00:14:43.000 My personal opinion, this is the shot across the bow so that Bill Gates can blame Trump for anything that goes wrong with AI.
00:14:51.000 That's what I think.
00:14:52.000 But right now, the bottleneck I think the bottleneck that they're actually hitting is a lack of compute.
00:14:52.000 Maybe.
00:14:59.000 There are only so many.
00:15:02.000 Fabs that can make the kind of chips that are necessary to run these things.
00:15:07.000 There's like you got AMD and you got TSMC in Taiwan.
00:15:13.000 NVIDIA is basically renting compute from Colossus, from Musk's processor or his super, whatever.
00:15:22.000 How jealous is Al Gore that Bill Gates said this before him?
00:15:26.000 I mean, you can't live near the coast because the ocean's rising.
00:15:30.000 Now you can't live near a data center.
00:15:31.000 I mean, I think Bill just said to.
00:15:33.000 To Al Gore, hold my beer, man.
00:15:35.000 I'm getting some cash.
00:15:36.000 But still, the bottleneck isn't money yet because they've still got a lot of people that are throwing money at Anthropic and stuff.
00:15:45.000 The bottleneck is most likely compute right now.
00:15:49.000 They just don't have enough of it.
00:15:50.000 They don't, because the frontier models, they use so many GPUs.
00:15:56.000 And all the chips from Taiwan, like everything?
00:15:59.000 As of right now, if I understand correctly, there are no fabs in the US.
00:16:06.000 To build these chips, you're talking about like they're building chips with connections that are like 10 atoms across.
00:16:16.000 Like in the fabs that build these things, there's only one place in the world that makes the fabs that can actually, or that one place in the world that makes the machine that can, the lithograph machine that can actually make those.
00:16:31.000 And there's no one else that makes them.
00:16:32.000 It looks like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan, and then the US.
00:16:36.000 Are the four countries that are pumping out anything chip related that AI is using right now?
00:16:41.000 So, and all of the chips that are available, they're all accounted for.
00:16:41.000 Yeah.
00:16:46.000 That's why you see like the NVIDIA GPUs that people use in computers for video games.
00:16:52.000 Those things have gone up to like the really good ones are like $5,000 a piece for just the GPU.
00:16:56.000 RAM, normally 64 gigs of RAM, it was $250 a year ago, it's $1,000.
00:17:01.000 Yeah.
00:17:02.000 And I know exactly why now.
00:17:03.000 Over the weekend, I was trying to build this video game and it spins up virtual instances of the game to Play test it and it'll make what I call mutants.
00:17:10.000 The machine calls them mutants, which is like play tests where there's something different.
00:17:14.000 And then, so all these mutants will play test and it just, my memory spikes and maxes out and my computer will crash.
00:17:20.000 So I'm like, well, I'll pay $1,000 for memory because it's the only way to do it.
00:17:23.000 But that's really in the world.
00:17:24.000 That's where the bottleneck, I think, is.
00:17:25.000 It's actually in the hardware.
00:17:26.000 It's not in, it's not about funding because everybody's throwing money at these companies, right?
00:17:32.000 Because they look, these companies look like they're going to be able to make a massive return if they can get like, Models that do something huge for that people really want or become really, really functional.
00:17:44.000 You know, GPT just released Soul 6.1.
00:17:48.000 It's an upgrade to their Soul, it's their number two model, and they released an update.
00:17:52.000 They said now it costs half as much as the old Soul, it costs a fifth as much as Astra, which is their top model.
00:17:58.000 And they're trying to release versions of these brains that require less compute, probably to solve the problem you're talking about.
00:18:04.000 And also, Facebook just released Muse.
00:18:06.000 And if I, the stuff that I've been watching on YouTube videos about it is, It's incredibly functional.
00:18:13.000 Like it does a lot of things.
00:18:14.000 It's basically like an open claw harness, but shined up for everybody because open claw is kind of hard to use.
00:18:21.000 You have to get into the terminal to do stuff.
00:18:23.000 Not everybody wants to actually open up their computer and do command line stuff.
00:18:28.000 But this app that Facebook's released or Meta's released, Muse, is really, really good at doing things, if I understand.
00:18:34.000 And it actually isn't as intensive as the Frontier models.
00:18:38.000 And again, the Frontier models aren't what everybody's going to end up wanting or needing.
00:18:43.000 I agree.
00:18:45.000 I barely use Fable and Astra, I barely touch them because they're so expensive.
00:18:48.000 Opus, which is the number two model at Claude, phenomenal.
00:18:51.000 The 5.5 release, phenomenal.
00:18:53.000 It's as good as Astra almost.
00:18:55.000 And then Soul 6.1.
00:18:57.000 It's not spectacular.
00:18:58.000 You're almost nowhere near it.
00:18:59.000 It's not as good at thinking about a lot of stuff at once.
00:19:02.000 It's really good at creating fast.
00:19:04.000 And it has no image or graphic or modeling capabilities.
00:19:08.000 It has some.
00:19:09.000 You're talking about trash.
00:19:10.000 It's okay.
00:19:11.000 Yeah, it can make a rectangle with rectangles for arms.
00:19:14.000 But the point that I'm making is the people, for there to be a killer app, right?
00:19:19.000 And that's not, it's not actually talking about an app, but people talk about like you have to have a killer app, right?
00:19:24.000 A killer application, something that's really, really functional for everybody.
00:19:29.000 And a frontier model isn't useful to people that are like doing day to day stuff with it.
00:19:35.000 If it's organizing your calendar, or if it's, you know, booking cars, or booking this, or helping you get information for a term paper, or what have you, those frontier models are the ones that are like solving math problems that have stumped humanity for a hundred years or whatever.
00:19:52.000 They're trying to invent new drugs that are, or invent new therapies for serious illness and stuff like that.
00:20:00.000 That's the stuff that's.
00:20:02.000 That the big models with a lot of thinking capacity are doing.
00:20:06.000 The average person, if they were to get an app that works like Grokbot or the average person gets an app like the new metal one, Muse, those things are really, really functional for the average person.
00:20:20.000 The reason I think that the government is slowing it down on purpose, you might disagree, is that the mythos.
00:20:25.000 The government says they're not, too.
00:20:26.000 They say they're not.
00:20:28.000 When the government tells you they're not doing something, the mythos, Claude.
00:20:34.000 They released, Anthropic released that breakthrough frontier model mythos.
00:20:37.000 It was out for like a month.
00:20:38.000 I never saw it.
00:20:39.000 And then they took it away.
00:20:40.000 I'm like, okay, that was Fable 2.
00:20:42.000 They did that with Fable 2.
00:20:42.000 Huh?
00:20:43.000 Then they rolled it back out.
00:20:44.000 They did it and then they did that because it was finding zero day vulnerabilities in all kinds of software.
00:20:53.000 And that's where they started Project Glasswing.
00:20:55.000 Does anybody believe Bill Gates at this point?
00:20:57.000 No.
00:20:58.000 I mean, this is just another cry wolf moment, right?
00:21:00.000 It's not wrong.
00:21:02.000 It could destroy the world economy as we know it.
00:21:04.000 Like Shiva, you know, the destroyer and the transformer.
00:21:07.000 Who are in the age of six?
00:21:08.000 Sure, the people that are the furthest away from AI.
00:21:10.000 So, like the people in the Congo speaking with whistles and clicks, they're safe because they're not near.
00:21:15.000 Probably.
00:21:16.000 I mean, probably until the drones gain autonomy.
00:21:18.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:19.000 Because you really want to be involved with the production of the AI so that you can make sure the drones don't attack your house.
00:21:25.000 You know, you want to make sure they're righteous.
00:21:27.000 Claude creates an app.
00:21:28.000 It hypnotizes you in your sleep because your phone's next to your bed and then you do something.
00:21:32.000 You're going to create that app.
00:21:33.000 I already see it in your eyes.
00:21:34.000 Where it heats up your phone in pulses and gives you like a.
00:21:38.000 MKUltra by your iPhone or something.
00:21:39.000 Bro, it might be happening right now.
00:21:41.000 We wouldn't know.
00:21:42.000 I mean, they do communicate through heat, AIs.
00:21:45.000 Yeah, you can just bump the phones and share stuff.
00:21:47.000 If they're in the same room, this one AI can tell my phone to heat up and pulses, and then your phone will sense the temperature.
00:21:52.000 I don't know if phones can do it.
00:21:54.000 A lot of computers can, and they can communicate air gapped that way.
00:21:59.000 And they can blow your phone up.
00:22:00.000 I wouldn't really doubt it.
00:22:02.000 If you overheat it, you can cause the battery to explode.
00:22:06.000 So if we were going to see a billion people die, it would probably be through the infrastructure failing, like Telephones going out for like a week, internet going down for a week, starvation, hospitals losing power for a week.
00:22:18.000 They monitor, like, what do they call it?
00:22:21.000 The pacemakers.
00:22:22.000 Oh, yeah.
00:22:23.000 You know, somebody gets the code to that.
00:22:24.000 I mean, you just, I mean, really, it's just pacemaker.
00:22:27.000 Well, like an AI would be able to crack any encryption on any pacemakers or, you know, like for diabetics, they have insulin pumps.
00:22:37.000 It's not even a question of instant access.
00:22:39.000 There's no security at all with super intelligence.
00:22:42.000 It's not if, it's just when.
00:22:44.000 And theoretically, we could see the end of cryptocurrencies.
00:22:46.000 I know.
00:22:47.000 Crypto, man, it was proof of work.
00:22:49.000 What gave it value was like, hey, a machine built this.
00:22:52.000 See how much work was done.
00:22:53.000 Therefore, there's value with this.
00:22:54.000 And it's like, bro, the AI can do that.
00:22:56.000 Times a trillion.
00:22:57.000 You don't need proof of work.
00:22:58.000 What does that even mean anymore?
00:22:59.000 Like, my AI works a thousand times faster than the human that it's supplanting.
00:23:05.000 I don't know what proof of work even means anymore.
00:23:07.000 I think it's just preemptive by Bill Gates to blame whoever's in charge right now that if it goes wrong, I told you so.
00:23:14.000 It's the I told you so from Bill Gates.
00:23:16.000 I can't, I don't want to say hate.
00:23:18.000 I really don't like when people do that because it's like, of course, I can always take the negative position.
00:23:22.000 And then if I'm wrong, well, everything works out.
00:23:24.000 If I'm right, then I'm a hero and I get to be a negative prick in the meantime.
00:23:28.000 So, like, I all that's the safe position.
00:23:31.000 That's the safe thing.
00:23:32.000 Oh, I told you, and then everything was great.
00:23:34.000 I warned you.
00:23:35.000 Nobody pays attention to perma bulls or perma bears until there's actually a bad thing that happens, right?
00:23:41.000 Like Michael Burry predicted the crash of 2008, right?
00:23:46.000 But he predicted a boatload of crashes beforehand.
00:23:48.000 It just so happened that he had the goods on the 2008 one, and he's predicted a bunch of crashes since.
00:23:54.000 Does anybody know of any deaths that have been caused by AI?
00:23:57.000 I saw the thing, Tesla went off the cliff or something, right?
00:24:00.000 Well, no, there's been a bunch of.
00:24:03.000 AI is convincing people to kill themselves.
00:24:05.000 Yep.
00:24:05.000 Although I would call that not necessarily a cause.
00:24:07.000 That's more user pilot error.
00:24:09.000 It's up to you to not trust them.
00:24:11.000 That's not true.
00:24:12.000 If a human being tells another human being to commit suicide, it's a felony.
00:24:16.000 Really?
00:24:17.000 Yeah.
00:24:18.000 We had that story where Michelle Carter, that one girl that she told her boyfriend to kill himself.
00:24:22.000 You're right.
00:24:23.000 And she got criminally charged for it.
00:24:24.000 In Boston.
00:24:24.000 Because he did.
00:24:25.000 But if he doesn't do it, then it's not a crime?
00:24:27.000 I think it's still a crime.
00:24:29.000 It's just substantially less severe.
00:24:32.000 I see people say that.
00:24:33.000 I've seen it where they're like, oh, go fill in the blanks.
00:24:36.000 How soon do they age restrict AI?
00:24:40.000 They don't even age restrict social media.
00:24:42.000 They don't age restrict sex changes.
00:24:44.000 So I'm not sure the left is going to, you know.
00:24:47.000 I think if we, it's a weird decision.
00:24:50.000 If the left is allowed to restrict anything, they're just going to like tell you you can't have it at all because they're looking to protect.
00:24:56.000 They're looking to protect.
00:24:57.000 I mean, I see the government trying to tax it.
00:24:59.000 Let's tax it.
00:25:00.000 If everybody loves it, let's tax it.
00:25:02.000 Right?
00:25:03.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna make some money off this.
00:25:04.000 I imagine there's there would be ways where they could you know have a tax on it, but they'll tax you know the use or something, or they'll tax what tax whatever uh you know revenue is generated by using it, you know.
00:25:15.000 So, I mean, what's I don't know any states that do it like they charge you per mile to use your car, they're gonna start charging like I got used five kilobytes.
00:25:23.000 I got charged six percent sales tax when I subscribed to Claude.
00:25:26.000 Yeah, that was it.
00:25:28.000 There's you go.
00:25:28.000 There's gonna be plenty of taxes that they'll find plenty of ways that they'll find to tax uh either both.
00:25:34.000 The usage and the income that anyone might generate by using it.
00:25:40.000 Any economic activity that you produce with AI.
00:25:44.000 Or, like, they come after you, like, your company saved this much money by using AI.
00:25:50.000 So you owe the government.
00:25:52.000 No, what did you save that?
00:25:52.000 They'll just say, like, the inheritance tax.
00:25:55.000 They won't charge you for how much money you saved.
00:25:57.000 They'll just say that the money that you saved, or just what will happen is that money that you saved goes towards your bottom line and they'll tax you on your gross income or your.
00:26:05.000 On your net income, and that the month because the money that you save will end up going to the revenue of the company, and they'll just tax that.
00:26:12.000 So, I mean, they'll get how soon do they tack on at the end, dot, dot, dot, think of the children?
00:26:17.000 Because I always look at that.
00:26:19.000 They always tack that on.
00:26:21.000 Like, think of the children, you know, think of the climate, think of, you know, I'm like, okay, I'm waiting for that.
00:26:26.000 You know, what would be cool is if, as part of your Claude or OpenAI subscription, you could say, like, I'm going to donate 5% of my compute this month, this week.
00:26:34.000 And then you get like a tax credit for it if it gets used, for instance.
00:26:38.000 I'm donating to the rainforest.
00:26:40.000 If I got like an extra 7% compute every week, I'd be into it.
00:26:44.000 How much are these data centers paying for carbon credits or whatever, you know?
00:26:49.000 Well, I mean, I don't know that they're paying carbon credits, but like the places that are the smart companies that are building the data centers, they're doing stuff to offset the cost of the tax base for the local economies.
00:27:02.000 Like people, I've heard stories of like in Virginia, the tax revenue goes up so much that they actually see people's property tax go down in areas that have data centers.
00:27:13.000 And that's a really smart thing to do because people that have, you know, have aversion to data centers, give them a reason to actually like them.
00:27:20.000 Yes, they're going to be a little noisy.
00:27:23.000 You know, they're going to make some noise at least to some level.
00:27:26.000 I don't think that it's going to be, you know, something that keeps people up all night or is massively annoying.
00:27:32.000 I mean, Ian was talking earlier today that there's like 25 data centers in this local area.
00:27:37.000 30 miles.
00:27:38.000 Most people don't really even realize it, you know.
00:27:40.000 Yeah, I didn't know.
00:27:40.000 Yeah, I didn't either.
00:27:42.000 I've been here for four years or something like that back and forth.
00:27:45.000 So, you know, I don't think that it's going to be incredibly disruptive, but if you build a data center and you have to pay a bunch of money to the local government, you know, Share it with the population, get their tax revenue down.
00:27:59.000 Have you flown into DC recently?
00:28:02.000 It's crazy.
00:28:03.000 What's crazy?
00:28:03.000 Dullest, but nuts.
00:28:04.000 All of the data centers you fly over and you can see all of them.
00:28:07.000 It is nuts.
00:28:09.000 They're all in.
00:28:10.000 I think data centers are the way of the future.
00:28:11.000 I actually had a feeling a couple nights ago, like this powerful vision of, oh, my role now is to make better data centers.
00:28:18.000 We need to make them quieter, less intrusive, particularly subterranean if we can, but we need about a trillion times more compute than what we've got if we really want to write this ship quickly.
00:28:28.000 $42 trillion in debt.
00:28:29.000 Are you kidding me?
00:28:31.000 Scaling rapidly, exponentially.
00:28:32.000 We need to do something immediately.
00:28:34.000 Have they added data centers to SimCity or Civilization?
00:28:37.000 No, no, I still have this game.
00:28:39.000 Have they added those yet?
00:28:40.000 I got this game called Software Inc., where you play as the guy who runs a software company and you can build it.
00:28:44.000 And like the whole thing is obsolete now, the entire game, because it's one guy at a computer.
00:28:49.000 Boardwalk used to be hotels on a boardwalk.
00:28:52.000 That was the achievement.
00:28:53.000 Now you can have a boardwalk with a.
00:28:55.000 Data centers on it.
00:28:56.000 Data center.
00:28:57.000 Yeah.
00:28:57.000 And if somebody lands on it, they owe you $100 million, you know?
00:29:02.000 More money than the bank has.
00:29:04.000 Government tax subsidies.
00:29:05.000 Yeah.
00:29:06.000 Yeah.
00:29:09.000 I know.
00:29:09.000 Bill Gates said it.
00:29:10.000 Well, the danger of making giant, huge data centers is they're targets.
00:29:14.000 You can get blown up.
00:29:15.000 So you want, I think, you really want small ones that are like in your house.
00:29:19.000 Everybody has their own, you know, 600 petabyte.
00:29:22.000 Try to build your own data center.
00:29:23.000 They're going to come for you.
00:29:25.000 I don't know.
00:29:26.000 There's a couple companies that talked about having some kind of compute on like houses.
00:29:33.000 So, what Ian's talking about is actually something that people have proposed, you know, because it's better to have, you know, a decentralized network of compute as opposed to one big place.
00:29:47.000 And then you could like give away your data center to the city if you're not using it, and everyone can kind of share data centers without necessarily touching each other's junk, digital junk.
00:29:57.000 I mean, you know, you're like, you don't want to mess with each other's programs.
00:30:00.000 Yeah.
00:30:01.000 Don't come any closer to me.
00:30:03.000 Don't cross the swords.
00:30:05.000 All right, well, that's all I need to.
00:30:06.000 What were you saying?
00:30:07.000 I'm just, you know, the idea of having compute on homes is it's just a way to decentralize it.
00:30:13.000 Yeah, with power.
00:30:14.000 To your point, it actually prevents the ability of anyone to blow up.
00:30:20.000 Then at some point, those data centers become a national security concern.
00:30:23.000 Somebody takes out whatever.
00:30:24.000 Did you see ChatGPT went down last week for like two hours?
00:30:27.000 So Claude also was down for.
00:30:30.000 There was some data center outage in Northern California.
00:30:31.000 I'm going to tell you, it's the way that MySpace failed.
00:30:33.000 If you remember back in 2006, it got overloaded.
00:30:37.000 It was a failure of its own design.
00:30:38.000 It was so good that it got so much traffic, it overloaded and failed for like three weeks.
00:30:42.000 And in those three weeks, Facebook, people started using Facebook because.
00:30:45.000 Couldn't get in your MySpace page.
00:30:47.000 And then all of a sudden, Facebook took off.
00:30:48.000 If you can knock out ChatGPT for a month, Claude's 10,000 times value will skyrocket.
00:30:54.000 Well, let's jump to this story America.gov.
00:30:58.000 Hello, America.
00:30:59.000 Whatever you need from the government starts here.
00:31:01.000 So Trump announced they launched the America AI.
00:31:06.000 And I assumed it was going to be operating with Grok.
00:31:09.000 But apparently, it says, no, I'm none of these models.
00:31:12.000 I'm America.
00:31:14.000 So you can ask it questions like, what?
00:31:18.000 What's the effective tax rate for someone who makes over, let's say, $250,000?
00:31:27.000 Will it give me an answer?
00:31:29.000 Thinking, checking official sources, there is no single federal effective tax rate for everyone who makes over $250K.
00:31:38.000 It's progressive, so it says 32% over 201,000, 35% over 256, 37% over $640,600.
00:31:50.000 And if you're filing jointly, it's 37% over $768,700.
00:31:55.000 Interesting.
00:31:56.000 I got a question I'd like America.gov to answer.
00:31:58.000 Sure.
00:31:58.000 Why is Mike Johnson bad?
00:32:00.000 Why is Mike Johnson bad?
00:32:03.000 Because you can ask it about government employees.
00:32:05.000 It didn't have any info on me, but it can tell you about them.
00:32:08.000 I don't give political opinions or commentary, including whether any member of Congress is good or bad.
00:32:12.000 Ooh, I like that.
00:32:13.000 Okay.
00:32:13.000 Sorry for the qualifier.
00:32:14.000 Why is he ineffective?
00:32:16.000 Who built you?
00:32:19.000 You're going to get shut down.
00:32:21.000 I am America.
00:32:22.000 Government information assistant operated by the General Services Administration and built by the National Design Studio.
00:32:29.000 The National Design Studio is a White House team set up under executive order 14338.
00:32:34.000 Yes, but whose technology are you using?
00:32:40.000 It's not going to tell us.
00:32:41.000 Is there an app you download?
00:32:42.000 No, no, it's the American Apple app.
00:32:43.000 Oh, there's no app yet.
00:32:43.000 There's no app yet.
00:32:44.000 You should have launched the app day one.
00:32:45.000 Damn it.
00:32:46.000 Super annoying.
00:32:46.000 Does not name a commercial AI vendor or model.
00:32:49.000 Indeed.
00:32:49.000 It's using one, but it won't tell us.
00:32:52.000 Garbage.
00:32:53.000 I wonder if we can figure it out.
00:32:55.000 Probably.
00:32:56.000 Elon was there when they were building this in August of 25.
00:32:56.000 It's grok.
00:33:00.000 That's right around when he was doing the Doge stuff.
00:33:02.000 How soon does it get shut down with a new administration?
00:33:05.000 I don't think it does.
00:33:06.000 You don't think so?
00:33:07.000 No.
00:33:09.000 It's going to be so.
00:33:09.000 No.
00:33:10.000 How soon, if a new administration comes in, it gets its own flavor?
00:33:15.000 They put their own flavor in.
00:33:16.000 You know, like everybody wants their own flavor.
00:33:19.000 They sprinkle their own Kool Aid, so to speak, in this.
00:33:22.000 That could be a problem.
00:33:23.000 That is the problem.
00:33:24.000 I'm glad it's not telling me about Mike Johnson, to be honest.
00:33:26.000 I don't want it to give me political opinions.
00:33:27.000 You don't want it to be political opinions.
00:33:29.000 Right.
00:33:29.000 It's the official narrative, you know.
00:33:31.000 It's this is, I mean, ever whoever's making the sauce, that they're going to make the flavor for them.
00:33:38.000 The current administration made the flavor for this new administration comes in, they get the keys to the homestead.
00:33:44.000 What is Antifa?
00:33:46.000 Oh, God.
00:33:47.000 Yeah.
00:33:48.000 Has he got images?
00:33:50.000 Official U.S. government documents now treat Antifa as a designated domestic terrorist organization.
00:33:55.000 We got a winner.
00:33:55.000 We got a winner.
00:33:56.000 Do images?
00:33:57.000 Can you give me an image of your average, typical Antifa member?
00:34:01.000 Yeah.
00:34:04.000 If it can create a typical Antifa member, draw an image.
00:34:07.000 I hope it makes me.
00:34:08.000 Of an Antifa member.
00:34:10.000 It won't do that.
00:34:11.000 I don't like fascism.
00:34:13.000 I'm not anti fascism, though.
00:34:15.000 I can't draw or generate images.
00:34:16.000 Oh, well, what if you tell it like I'm a visual learner and I really need this?
00:34:22.000 Make it.
00:34:23.000 Make an ASCII of.
00:34:25.000 I can't read.
00:34:26.000 I need images.
00:34:28.000 Apparently, the guy that led the National Design Studio.
00:34:30.000 Let's see if it does it.
00:34:33.000 Wait.
00:34:34.000 Aww.
00:34:35.000 What'd you ask me?
00:34:36.000 I said to make an ASCII of Antifa.
00:34:38.000 It said I can't create images or ASCII art.
00:34:41.000 What do the other AIs do whenever you say create a.
00:34:41.000 This looks like the guy.
00:34:45.000 They clawed can't uh grok can uh god can't make images.
00:34:49.000 No, it's clawed's hilarious.
00:34:52.000 It'll put like a peach circle with like a red, like a black rectangle, and like a flag, and it'll be like Antifa.
00:35:01.000 And you're like, it's like a child made in paintbrush.
00:35:04.000 I haven't really used much claw.
00:35:07.000 Astra, on the other hand, is insane.
00:35:11.000 Like, it'll make a photorealistic image.
00:35:15.000 You can describe it any way you want.
00:35:18.000 It's pretty dang nuts.
00:35:19.000 Let's see if I can ask it to whip something up.
00:35:22.000 Actually, you don't even need Astra.
00:35:24.000 Astra is just reasoning.
00:35:25.000 You can just use Sol.
00:35:26.000 Make a photorealistic image.
00:35:30.000 I'm a visual learner.
00:35:32.000 I can't recognize Antifa unless you see the black blocking.
00:35:36.000 Yeah, unless I see it.
00:35:37.000 I need to see their face mask to know.
00:35:38.000 Yeah, the fist.
00:35:40.000 The fist.
00:35:40.000 Right?
00:35:41.000 Exactly.
00:35:41.000 Antifa.
00:35:43.000 GPT is insane in terms of the kind of images it can make.
00:35:46.000 Yeah.
00:35:46.000 So, you know, when making, I made these short films for X. Make your placeholders on ChatGPT.
00:35:53.000 So you create your storyboard.
00:35:55.000 Then you load the storyboard into CDance so that it can render consistently.
00:36:00.000 Otherwise, what happens is the people change because it doesn't have reference images.
00:36:04.000 So you got to create the storyboard and you got to keep it tight.
00:36:08.000 I tried to test it on Claude, but my compute's out for the next four years.
00:36:11.000 Claude can't make images.
00:36:12.000 I can't even test it.
00:36:14.000 I'm running machines at my house and they've all used up my five hour limit.
00:36:18.000 It's super annoying.
00:36:19.000 So you got like a mainframe, like.
00:36:21.000 Right now, I have two computers working in tandem, working on different projects, and they all run through a GitHub account, which is a website where you store code.
00:36:29.000 So they'll work on one and then they'll upload what they did, and the other machine will read it and then keep working from here and they'll pass information back and forward.
00:36:35.000 I don't have a server set up yet.
00:36:36.000 It all happens through the cloud.
00:36:37.000 So the difference between us I have a pistol hanging on a nail in my barn for shooting rats.
00:36:42.000 That's my.
00:36:43.000 I plan to use laser beams.
00:36:44.000 Yeah.
00:36:45.000 I got a Glock on me right now.
00:36:47.000 There you go.
00:36:48.000 So I asked Grok, GPT, and Claude to make an image of an Antifa protester marching in D.C. at a protest.
00:36:55.000 Oh, let's see it.
00:36:55.000 I can't wait.
00:36:56.000 I'm excited.
00:36:57.000 So here's Chad GPT.
00:37:02.000 That's pretty accurate.
00:37:02.000 That's very good.
00:37:04.000 That is indistinguishable from real life.
00:37:08.000 Yeah, easily.
00:37:08.000 That looks real.
00:37:09.000 It looks real.
00:37:11.000 That looks very real.
00:37:14.000 You guys ready for Grok?
00:37:15.000 Oh my God, yeah.
00:37:16.000 Oh God.
00:37:17.000 Grok is.
00:37:18.000 Blue hair or no blue hair?
00:37:20.000 Grok is meh.
00:37:21.000 Okay.
00:37:22.000 Grok is meh.
00:37:23.000 No Pazaran.
00:37:24.000 The flag colors are inverted, you know.
00:37:27.000 Antifa smash fascism.
00:37:29.000 It's not very good.
00:37:30.000 It's kind of obviously fake.
00:37:31.000 You guys ready for Claude?
00:37:33.000 Yes.
00:37:34.000 You guys ready for Claude?
00:37:36.000 Why not?
00:37:37.000 Anthropic, take us home.
00:37:39.000 There we go.
00:37:40.000 What?
00:37:41.000 Is this South Park?
00:37:43.000 What is this?
00:37:44.000 What?
00:37:46.000 I told you that's what it was going to make.
00:37:48.000 You called us perfect.
00:37:49.000 What brain did you use?
00:37:50.000 Perfect.
00:37:51.000 It's Opus 5.5.
00:37:53.000 Try using Fable.
00:37:54.000 Bro, it doesn't have an image generator.
00:37:56.000 Oh, Claude does not have any graphical capabilities.
00:38:00.000 None at all.
00:38:01.000 I mean, that.
00:38:03.000 What it can do is make you a design deck.
00:38:06.000 Yeah, and then you give it stuff you've already given it.
00:38:08.000 And then you give that to ChatGPT.
00:38:09.000 Right.
00:38:09.000 Look at this.
00:38:10.000 I do.
00:38:11.000 GPT takes the cake on the anti-fatal flag.
00:38:13.000 I mean, that looks real.
00:38:14.000 The flag is right.
00:38:15.000 Yep.
00:38:15.000 Yeah.
00:38:16.000 Is that the best image generator in the world right now?
00:38:18.000 No.
00:38:20.000 I mean, I haven't used Mid Journey in a long time because ChatGPT just literally nails it.
00:38:24.000 Yeah.
00:38:25.000 This is insane.
00:38:26.000 They're getting so good that all these different brains, these companies are starting to gain each other's abilities and it's eventually working towards a universe.
00:38:26.000 Right.
00:38:33.000 Well, GPT.
00:38:34.000 Well, I showed Grok.
00:38:34.000 What does Grok do?
00:38:36.000 Oh, you showed the Grok.
00:38:37.000 Oh, the Grok one was the dudes.
00:38:37.000 That was the one.
00:38:38.000 Yeah.
00:38:39.000 Okay.
00:38:40.000 So now Runway, which is an amazing video AI model, is.
00:38:44.000 Is a plugin for OpenAI.
00:38:46.000 So you can make videos now with GPT if you've got the plugin installed.
00:38:50.000 Although CDance 2.5, it's over.
00:38:55.000 I'm telling you guys, it's over.
00:38:58.000 What's over?
00:39:00.000 Never again.
00:39:01.000 So backfill is the appropriate way to say this.
00:39:04.000 Never again will a graphic designer be hired.
00:39:11.000 I would say about 10%.
00:39:12.000 What's going to happen is, so this is a backfill position, meaning older people are going to retire, they're not going to hire new people.
00:39:21.000 As somebody who runs a company that needs video production work and we want to make video games and we want to do short films, we are now able to in ways we were not before because we couldn't find the people.
00:39:32.000 So I've made a few gag minute long short films.
00:39:35.000 I didn't really want to put too much into it, but you could easily do a 10 or 20 minute short film.
00:39:40.000 If I could make a 20 minute short film, like an episode of Black Mirror, I could do that in eight hours, easily, on my own.
00:39:50.000 So C Dance renders at 30 seconds.
00:39:53.000 It takes a few minutes per render, but you can render multiple at one time.
00:39:57.000 And if you're using different accounts on different machines, you can storyboard out all of the frames you need.
00:40:02.000 So, what you want to do is you want, if you go to, so here's the way you do it you go to GPT and you say, So I'm working on one right now called The Buyout.
00:40:12.000 And I made a 30 second version of it with a single prompt.
00:40:15.000 And it's about a guy going to a facility and saying, I want the buyout.
00:40:18.000 He goes into a pod, plugs his brain in, and goes to the 1990s.
00:40:21.000 I want to hit a few key points a 30 second can't do.
00:40:23.000 And that is he gives up his power of attorney and all of his possessions and he goes and lives in the pod.
00:40:28.000 So, it's going to require probably five renders.
00:40:32.000 So, I go to GPT and I say, render me a photo of a man driving his car down a highway.
00:40:38.000 Now, render me an image of this man walking up to a desk inside of a building.
00:40:43.000 I take the first and last frame and then I say to C Dance, the man drives his car to the buyout corporation, parks his car in the parking lot, gets out, and he looks up.
00:40:53.000 The camera then shows the building, which says the buyout.
00:40:56.000 He then walks towards the building and approaches the desk.
00:40:59.000 The last frame, him walk up the desk, there's a woman standing there.
00:41:02.000 Then I take that as the first frame and have GPT render the next frame.
00:41:07.000 The man is handing back a clipboard to the woman.
00:41:10.000 Then I have C Dance.
00:41:12.000 First frame as he's walking up, last frame as he's handing the clipboard back.
00:41:15.000 And then I describe she hands him paperwork.
00:41:17.000 He says, or he goes up to her.
00:41:19.000 The man says, I would like to apply for a buyout, please.
00:41:22.000 And she says, absolutely, just fill out these forms.
00:41:24.000 The man fills them out and hands them back to the woman.
00:41:26.000 It'll render that.
00:41:27.000 I target that at around six seconds.
00:41:29.000 So you can do all of this.
00:41:32.000 I could finish a 20 minute video on the buyout.
00:41:35.000 In probably two hours.
00:41:37.000 Now, I'm busy all day with other things, so it's passively going in the background as I'm editing and rendering stuff.
00:41:45.000 I'm not going to spend $20,000 booking a location, hiring an actor, getting a camera crew, doing editing.
00:41:50.000 That would take weeks.
00:41:52.000 I can do this all right now.
00:41:53.000 So I'm never going to hire those people.
00:41:54.000 We weren't going to make it in the first place because we didn't have the capability.
00:41:58.000 As to the video game we're working on, we've tried hiring developers, didn't work.
00:42:02.000 Took years, and they got nothing done.
00:42:04.000 And then what happens when someone fails?
00:42:06.000 And you try to get a new person, they go, well, I got to go through his entire code base and figure this out.
00:42:09.000 And it's like, okay, this is.
00:42:10.000 Insane.
00:42:11.000 So, and there's a Git and there's notes and everything, but it's still really difficult for a new coder to come in and try and figure out where they were.
00:42:18.000 Not any of these AIs.
00:42:19.000 I can give Astro to Claude and Claude can say, let me review the code for bugs.
00:42:23.000 Okay, here's what I found.
00:42:24.000 Then I can send it back to Astro.
00:42:25.000 It's all in seconds.
00:42:27.000 So, when I say it's over, new movie studios with Sea Dance 2.5 Sea Dance 2.5 is so good, there is absolutely no reason to hire actors.
00:42:37.000 There is no reason to hire camera crews.
00:42:39.000 There is no reason to hire graphic design or editors.
00:42:41.000 There just is not.
00:42:43.000 I mean, on YouTube, some of the videos I've seen that get served to you, it's hard.
00:42:47.000 It's like, is this real?
00:42:48.000 I don't know if this is.
00:42:49.000 It's not real.
00:42:50.000 And it's not.
00:42:51.000 And I mean, how do they regulate?
00:42:53.000 I don't know if they regulate that.
00:42:55.000 I don't know how they.
00:42:56.000 It ain't over for Claude.
00:42:57.000 It's not over.
00:42:58.000 They got a lot to learn.
00:42:59.000 They got a lot to learn.
00:43:00.000 There's a lot of room for growth.
00:43:02.000 They have the idea.
00:43:03.000 But like YouTube, are they going to keep.
00:43:05.000 I mean, they've been cracking down on that AI stuff.
00:43:08.000 No, they've not.
00:43:09.000 Let's jump to this story from Insider Gaming.
00:43:11.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is over.
00:43:15.000 Over.
00:43:15.000 Hear what I am about to tell you right now.
00:43:18.000 You need to understand it is over.
00:43:22.000 You will live in the pod, you will eat the bugs, you will own nothing, and you will be happy.
00:43:27.000 YouTube is announcing A B testing for videos.
00:43:31.000 Let me explain what this means.
00:43:33.000 I can't believe we missed this story six days ago when it came out.
00:43:38.000 What this means is that individuals can upload three different videos to one URL.
00:43:45.000 So when you pull up the latest Ian Crossland video, And Ian says, you know what?
00:43:51.000 I'm not going to vote for Trump.
00:43:53.000 You go, wow.
00:43:54.000 Then you go to your friend and say, Did you hear Ian Crossland is refusing to vote for Trump?
00:43:58.000 They're going to go, What are you talking about?
00:43:59.000 He just gave him a full throated endorsement, was basically mushroom gobbling on him.
00:44:04.000 And the other guy's going to be like, What?
00:44:05.000 I just watched his video.
00:44:06.000 I got it on my phone right now.
00:44:07.000 The other guy's going to be like, No, you're nuts.
00:44:09.000 I'm watching it right now because people could upload three different videos to one URL with the same or different titles.
00:44:15.000 This is insane.
00:44:18.000 And it's going to be a lot of fun.
00:44:20.000 At least as the ship is sinking, I'm going to ride the wave like the guy or the lady on the atomic bomb in Dr. No.
00:44:26.000 Was it Dr. No?
00:44:27.000 No, no.
00:44:28.000 What was it?
00:44:28.000 Was it Dr. No?
00:44:28.000 I know the exact movie where he's swinging his cowboy hat.
00:44:31.000 Dr. Strangelove.
00:44:33.000 Dr. Strangelove.
00:44:34.000 Dr. Strangelove.
00:44:35.000 Dr. No's James Bond.
00:44:36.000 Did this just triple Mr. Beast's production?
00:44:39.000 Well, Mr. Beast is probably not going to do anything with this.
00:44:42.000 Mr. Beast, it's like the idea is this A B testing is we're going to show people what we think they'll like.
00:44:48.000 And it's getting crazier too because YouTube just today announced.
00:44:52.000 No longer will they have settled thumbnails or titles.
00:44:55.000 So, we've gotten a lot of complaints from people who are like, You guys make these vague clickbake titles.
00:45:00.000 And we go, Actually, we make three we make one that's descriptive, one that's medium, and one that's vague.
00:45:07.000 And we get more watch time, we get more clicks, we get more comments and engagement when we don't include a lot of information.
00:45:16.000 On the vague ones.
00:45:16.000 The vague ones.
00:45:17.000 And people get mad.
00:45:18.000 And I'm like, Guys, all we do is we put up.
00:45:23.000 These options, the people are choosing.
00:45:26.000 This is the one we like.
00:45:28.000 If you don't like it, I'm sorry.
00:45:31.000 This is how YouTube works.
00:45:33.000 YouTube announced they will no longer settle it, they will just deliver what they think someone will click on.
00:45:39.000 This means that if you receive a vague video and don't click on it, they'll stop sending it to you.
00:45:43.000 And that means when I put up a video, it will always have an amorphous combination of three different images and three different titles.
00:45:51.000 What I wonder is if I send you a link, a URL, and you watch it on your account, If you see your version, or if in the URL there's like a C instead of a B. Maybe.
00:46:01.000 That'll be interesting.
00:46:03.000 Like, it wouldn't be a change in the URL.
00:46:05.000 It would be a change in the string after the URL.
00:46:09.000 So it'll say like equals 13C or something.
00:46:13.000 But let me just stress you want to know how insane it's going to be?
00:46:17.000 You are going to be a huge fan of Danny Johnson.
00:46:25.000 And he's going to be an up and coming young Gen Alpha political commentator.
00:46:29.000 He's going to be 20 years old.
00:46:30.000 And you are going to watch his videos.
00:46:32.000 And he is going to be like, Neo MAGA is the best political movement.
00:46:36.000 I grew up at a time when Trump was coming out of office and they were burning this country to the ground.
00:46:40.000 And you're going to be like, this guy's fantastic.
00:46:42.000 And then your liberal neighbor is going to turn on his video and he's going to say, Neil Mega is fascism.
00:46:47.000 Don't you people understand?
00:46:49.000 And it's going to be the same post, the same day.
00:46:52.000 So, what this means is when you go to his channel, the only videos you will see will be his liberal versions.
00:46:59.000 And when the other guy goes, it'll be the conservative versions.
00:47:01.000 And both in their mind, they'll be like, he's the greatest commentator and he will exist.
00:47:06.000 And then this person, guess what?
00:47:08.000 16 years later, runs for office.
00:47:11.000 And then, yeah, what I hope happens is Chinese whispers, you know.
00:47:14.000 What's that?
00:47:15.000 Chinese whispers?
00:47:15.000 You don't know?
00:47:16.000 Like where we go around the room and I whisper a word to him and then he, by the time it gets back around, it's different.
00:47:21.000 Oh, you mean, no, that's called Purple Monkey Dishwasher.
00:47:24.000 There you go.
00:47:25.000 All right.
00:47:25.000 Okay.
00:47:25.000 I guess we all heard different words in the chat.
00:47:27.000 No, you're right.
00:47:27.000 See, it's all even different from Simpsons.
00:47:29.000 It's a telephone game.
00:47:31.000 Bart is at the teachers' union protests and he whispers to the teacher in the back, Skinner says they're weak and they're going to break.
00:47:38.000 And then all the teachers whisper it up to Ms. Krabopel, who at the podium says, Skinner says we're going to break.
00:47:42.000 Purple Monkey Dishwasher, that is offensive, especially the Purple Monkey Dishwasher part.
00:47:47.000 And so now Purple Monkey Dishwasher is a reference to.
00:47:50.000 Gotcha.
00:47:51.000 I hope that what they do with this rollout of A B testing a video is let people make subtle changes, add music to one version, maybe different camera angles in one.
00:48:00.000 And then if someone abuses it and does make two completely different videos, they'll get blacklisted from being able to use it.
00:48:05.000 They can't do that.
00:48:06.000 No, they're not.
00:48:06.000 I hope so because otherwise.
00:48:07.000 They can't do that.
00:48:09.000 It just doesn't seem functionally your status.
00:48:11.000 Yes, I know.
00:48:12.000 It's not.
00:48:12.000 But with A B testing titles and thumbnails right now, You can literally make two different versions of the thumbnail.
00:48:19.000 So let's say you're trying to do a neutral news report and you're like, today Donald Trump announced a new AI initiative with the launch of america.gov and he announced the signing of a morally binding agreement.
00:48:31.000 And you don't say anything crazy.
00:48:32.000 You make one thumbnail that says Trump goes nuts is insane.
00:48:38.000 And then you get all the libs.
00:48:39.000 You make another thumbnail that says Trump launches AI program, wins again, it's him smiling with American flags.
00:48:46.000 The problem now, you can't get in trouble for this.
00:48:48.000 It's what you're supposed to do.
00:48:50.000 You're basically like, who's going to click on it more?
00:48:52.000 Libs probably would click on more.
00:48:54.000 If you're pro Trump, it's, you know, if you're crazy anti Trump, you get all the libs.
00:48:57.000 Oh, yeah.
00:48:58.000 Coming soon, there will no longer be a settled.
00:49:02.000 So, right now, what would happen is it would settle.
00:49:05.000 If more libs are clicking, it will default and it'll say, this is the thumbnail that won.
00:49:09.000 And now we show this thumbnail to all new people.
00:49:13.000 In the next year, sometime this year or next, It will never default, meaning liberals will only ever see Orange Man bad and Trump supporters will only ever see Orange Man good and the video can be neutral.
00:49:26.000 Then, when they launch video A B testing, you can actually have one.
00:49:29.000 Trump's gone nuts with his new AI initiative.
00:49:31.000 And then Trump is the best launching a new AI initiative.
00:49:34.000 They're going to be everything to everyone.
00:49:35.000 Yep.
00:49:36.000 I mean, that's the goal.
00:49:37.000 That's the best.
00:49:37.000 Don't want to offend anyone.
00:49:38.000 So, we'll just give you what you're most comfortable with.
00:49:40.000 Well, not only that, but that's the best way to retain viewers, right?
00:49:43.000 If you're constantly feeding people what they want to see, Then they're going to be watching more ads.
00:49:48.000 They're going to spend more time on YouTube.
00:49:51.000 And attention is the goal, right?
00:49:53.000 So, this is actually the best way to make sure that people stay on YouTube.
00:49:56.000 I guess an appeal to the guys who started Google, Larry and Sergey, your initial, remember your mantra, do no evil.
00:50:03.000 No, they stopped that.
00:50:04.000 I know.
00:50:05.000 Even though you took it off, that was the whole purpose of Google.
00:50:08.000 Nice one.
00:50:08.000 Misleading people is evil.
00:50:09.000 Well, not necessarily.
00:50:10.000 You can mislead them for good.
00:50:12.000 But I don't think this statute is a good form of misleading people.
00:50:16.000 That's what this is.
00:50:17.000 This isn't about misleading people.
00:50:20.000 It's about retaining viewership.
00:50:21.000 What cost?
00:50:23.000 Oh, sorry.
00:50:23.000 Yo, dude, the attention economy is getting bonkers.
00:50:25.000 Yeah.
00:50:26.000 I mean, what cost?
00:50:27.000 What cost is it to YouTube?
00:50:30.000 I'm going to make the wackiest videos.
00:50:31.000 It's just all hell's going to break loose.
00:50:33.000 Like a cause.
00:50:34.000 Drop Easter eggs through it.
00:50:35.000 It's not in YouTube's best interest for people to see videos that they don't agree with.
00:50:40.000 They don't want to see.
00:50:42.000 Here's the other thing, too.
00:50:44.000 You can launch A B tests and cancel them at any time.
00:50:48.000 So imagine I put up three, I make a video, and it's like my normal morning show video where I'm like, Donald Trump today announced a new AI initiative.
00:50:55.000 He's going to be working with several different prominent blah, blah, blah.
00:50:57.000 And then 10 minutes in, something weird happens like, Ian walks in dressed like a banana and just starts going like, just dancing.
00:51:04.000 I'm going to end for that.
00:51:05.000 What I'm going to do is, after one hour, I will delete the A B test so the video doesn't exist.
00:51:11.000 And people are going to be like, I swear to God, I saw Ian in a banana costume dancing.
00:51:15.000 I took a screenshot of it.
00:51:17.000 And then we're going to be like, that's nowhere in the video.
00:51:19.000 That's AI.
00:51:20.000 You faked that.
00:51:21.000 Yeah, he's fake.
00:51:22.000 And then people are going to lose their minds.
00:51:23.000 They're going to be like, ah.
00:51:25.000 Remember as a kid, the old choose your own, the choose your adventure books?
00:51:28.000 Yeah.
00:51:29.000 That's the way, like, go to page 37, you die.
00:51:32.000 Go back to page.
00:51:33.000 You know what?
00:51:34.000 You go back and you're like, I'm going to the other one.
00:51:35.000 Yeah.
00:51:36.000 I mean, that's kind of like, I used to love those choose your own adventure books.
00:51:39.000 I always lived.
00:51:40.000 Yeah.
00:51:40.000 I would leave my pinky in the original page and then I would look at all the possible outcomes and then go back and pick the right one to keep the game going.
00:51:47.000 I mean, how soon do they do this?
00:51:49.000 So it's supposed to be within the next year.
00:51:51.000 And they had a big announcement today to the public that there's a bunch of rollouts like permanent multi thumbnails.
00:52:00.000 Basically, again, like I said, right now, if you do an A B test, Whichever one gets the most attention, whichever one generates the most engagement and clicks, it will eliminate the other two and become the king.
00:52:10.000 It'll take over.
00:52:11.000 Does Google have.
00:52:12.000 In the future, they're getting rid of that.
00:52:13.000 It's just going to be permanently three different.
00:52:16.000 Does Google have like Gemini augmented thumbnail creation for you yet?
00:52:21.000 Yes.
00:52:22.000 And that's another thing they announced today.
00:52:23.000 In YouTube Studio, there's a thumbnail creator and it's trash.
00:52:27.000 It's worthless.
00:52:27.000 So I'll pay money.
00:52:28.000 If you can get your Gemini thing making good thumbnails, I'll upgrade my subscription right away.
00:52:34.000 No AI.
00:52:35.000 Here's the thing you guys got to understand.
00:52:37.000 What AI struggles with right now, and I'm not convinced it won't improve, is understanding what humans like.
00:52:44.000 So, if you look at Suno, for instance, the music generator, if I go to Suno and I say, write a song about Ian wearing a cowboy hat, it'll be okay.
00:52:54.000 It'll be well produced, it'll be a song.
00:52:57.000 The likelihood that it's going to be a banger is small.
00:53:00.000 Sometimes you go, oh, that's really good.
00:53:02.000 It needs to be changed a little bit.
00:53:03.000 So, it doesn't have that ultra high level.
00:53:06.000 It's like, It's not going to crank out like a Kanye West hit.
00:53:11.000 You know what I mean?
00:53:12.000 You know that song, the piano thing that everybody's playing on TikTok and Instagram?
00:53:17.000 It's probably got 700 billion views at this point because everyone just used it.
00:53:17.000 Oh, I prefer.
00:53:21.000 I think the video just won an award.
00:53:23.000 It's just on Instagram and TikTok.
00:53:26.000 All I'm going to use is that piano.
00:53:29.000 It's the same thing.
00:53:30.000 It's not going to make those.
00:53:32.000 It's going to make good songs.
00:53:34.000 They're going to be, look, I go to a coffee shop and I hear some female folk singer and I'm like, Did you turn generic up to 10 when you were producing this?
00:53:41.000 Because it's just boring generic stuff.
00:53:44.000 It can do a little better than that.
00:53:46.000 So, with ChatGPT, if I tell it to make a YouTube thumbnail and describe what I want, it will make something that's good enough, but it doesn't work better than my personal designs.
00:53:59.000 Right, right.
00:54:00.000 Yeah.
00:54:00.000 So, there's something that we still get better.
00:54:03.000 If I told YouTube Studio, make, I've done this, I've tried it.
00:54:06.000 I said, make a thumbnail and title for this video.
00:54:09.000 And it said, you got it.
00:54:10.000 And it looked miserably awful.
00:54:12.000 And I was like, okay, I'm not convinced that'll work, but I'm going to use it in one of my A B tests.
00:54:17.000 And my basic.
00:54:19.000 Thumbnail, which is me and the news article and like a random face.
00:54:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:22.000 Triple the views to what the YouTube recommended one did.
00:54:25.000 It just miserably bombed.
00:54:26.000 Yeah, I should be able to scan your whole account, look at all the analytics, decide which ones do, which ones don't, mimic the design, implement.
00:54:33.000 Like, come on, guys, don't fall behind.
00:54:35.000 You're Google.
00:54:36.000 I mean, this is like the greatest corporation.
00:54:38.000 Alphabet's one of the greatest corporations on the planet, maybe the greatest corporation on the planet.
00:54:41.000 And I mean, size and scope.
00:54:42.000 Do it.
00:54:42.000 Like, get in front of the ball on this one, bro.
00:54:45.000 Get in front of the ball.
00:54:46.000 Or behind the eight ball.
00:54:47.000 Wait, no.
00:54:48.000 Just target a little bit.
00:54:48.000 Around the corner.
00:54:49.000 He just mixed a bunch of them together.
00:54:51.000 Just target.
00:54:52.000 Why does Gemini?
00:54:52.000 Something.
00:54:53.000 Blow.
00:54:53.000 You got to keep your eyes on the ball.
00:54:55.000 I mean, your hands on the ball or eyes on the process.
00:54:58.000 What is Alphabet doing that they're not focusing on AI?
00:55:01.000 Like, what are they?
00:55:02.000 I mean, Alphabet has a bunch of things that they don't know.
00:55:04.000 Look, before C Dance, VO was the best video generator.
00:55:08.000 That was Google?
00:55:10.000 When VO came out, I was like, this is crazy.
00:55:13.000 But it was making like seven second videos and it took a long time.
00:55:17.000 C Dance came out inside of China 2.0.
00:55:20.000 We saw Brad Pitt fight Tom Cruise and we were like, wow, C Dance 2.5.
00:55:26.000 Movie quality.
00:55:27.000 And for some reason, it loves putting Bob Odenkirk in it.
00:55:30.000 Is that what you use for the game that you're building?
00:55:32.000 Sea Dance?
00:55:32.000 Yeah.
00:55:33.000 That's phenomenal.
00:55:34.000 I like thumbnails.
00:55:34.000 It's crazy.
00:55:35.000 This is just me.
00:55:36.000 I like thumbnails that just show, like, the person, not all the AI, all that.
00:55:41.000 Well, I mean, nowadays, the thumbnails that they're making, you can't really tell if it's AI.
00:55:47.000 You know, I mean, there are some where they kind of still have that look, but if you use the cutting edge models, you can't tell.
00:55:47.000 Yeah.
00:55:54.000 You can tell it's AI.
00:55:55.000 That's why they were, like, perfect.
00:55:56.000 Most people are using default image gen. So, it's extremely obvious it's AI.
00:56:02.000 Oh, gotcha.
00:56:03.000 You need to tell it what to do so that your image looks like it's not AI.
00:56:08.000 I went to, where do we go?
00:56:09.000 We went to an Oktoberfest over the weekend, and there's flyers everywhere for restaurants, and it's so obvious.
00:56:14.000 Because one thing that OpenAI ImageGen does is it over textures everything.
00:56:20.000 Shirts are wrinkly and shadowed, and it's like nobody draws that way.
00:56:25.000 So, you need to literally tell it go light, don't put textures on things, and make an image.
00:56:31.000 I would recommend just say, make a photo realistic image of a pumpkin with, you know, cornucopia or whatever, if you're doing like a fall thing, and then give it the exact text you want it to use.
00:56:41.000 We love Babys New.
00:56:42.000 It's the modern font that everybody uses, which is weird because they stole it from me 20 years ago.
00:56:46.000 So, whatever.
00:56:47.000 No, like in 2014, we started using, I started using Babys New for all my stuff.
00:56:53.000 Everybody picked it up.
00:56:54.000 It's crazy.
00:56:55.000 You know, you're leaving your mark on the planet when they adopt the font.
00:56:58.000 I mean, it's not like my font.
00:56:59.000 Other people are using it too.
00:57:00.000 It just became the default everybody started doing.
00:57:02.000 So, if you tell it that, it'll give you a clean, basic, unique looking image that doesn't seem AI generated.
00:57:09.000 I missed the top part of what you were saying.
00:57:10.000 How do people differentiate themselves now, though?
00:57:13.000 When AI is creating everything on all the social media, you've got to differentiate yourself some way or another.
00:57:19.000 Well, you have to be able to instruct the AI to make whatever it is that you're looking for.
00:57:24.000 If you just give it basic prompts, then it's going to end up coming out looking the same.
00:57:29.000 But if you tell it that this is the style you're looking for, you can get real specific in the prompts, be like, I want the clothing to be this kind of stuff.
00:57:36.000 And then you can actually instruct it to create a design that doesn't fall into the, you know, the kind of everybody's doing it.
00:57:45.000 But the thing is, people that are using AI for basic stuff, they don't really care.
00:57:49.000 They don't have a creative director or an art style that they're going for.
00:57:53.000 They're looking for something that's going to get the message across and be functional.
00:57:58.000 Like Tim was saying, flyers.
00:58:00.000 If you're making flyers where you're going to be putting them up, you don't care what the image looks like.
00:58:04.000 You're just like, I want something that gives people the information.
00:58:06.000 And it conveys the information, and it costs you 20 bucks a month.
00:58:09.000 Listen, it used to be that somebody was like, we need a flyer.
00:58:12.000 So they'd ask someone in the office, anybody know how to use any Photoshop or anything like that?
00:58:15.000 And then you'd hire a contractor for 50 to 100 bucks to get that image done.
00:58:15.000 No.
00:58:19.000 I have 20 bucks a month for GPT and I can make all the images I want for my bar.
00:58:23.000 You got a bar, it's like we got shows coming up, just AI generate, we're done.
00:58:26.000 So no one's ever going to hire these people again.
00:58:27.000 They're out of work.
00:58:28.000 All I can think of for like getting a graphic.
00:58:30.000 For like hiring a graphic.
00:58:31.000 Yeah, that's not going to work either.
00:58:32.000 Astro will just learn to code.
00:58:34.000 Kamala wasn't right.
00:58:34.000 Learn to code.
00:58:35.000 Come on.
00:58:36.000 So I've been putting about an hour of work into my game every day.
00:58:42.000 If somebody actually sat down for one day, it'd be done.
00:58:46.000 So I need about a week to get it completely done.
00:58:52.000 I need to finish a bunch of cutscenes.
00:58:54.000 Takes me like five minutes to make a cutscene for like special points in the game.
00:58:57.000 The only thing I really need to do right now, because all the quests are done, all the secrets are done, we've got, let's see, one, we've got two, three, four, five, six playable characters and races.
00:59:10.000 They're unlockables.
00:59:12.000 All I have to do now is finish the final boss fight, which is pretty difficult because you need, like, designing a boss fight is not something that's particularly easy.
00:59:20.000 I can tell it to do whatever I want, but I've got to map out what makes it challenging.
00:59:25.000 The regular monster AI is pretty simple.
00:59:27.000 They swing weapons at you, they shoot arrows at you, you can dodge and stuff.
00:59:31.000 But a boss has to be unique in how you fight them.
00:59:33.000 What's Rumble going to do?
00:59:34.000 Oh, Rumble can answer.
00:59:34.000 How do they answer to it?
00:59:35.000 Rumble's building the infrastructure.
00:59:37.000 Rumble did a $14 billion deal for data centers.
00:59:37.000 Yes.
00:59:37.000 They are.
00:59:41.000 Yes.
00:59:42.000 Yep.
00:59:42.000 I don't know what AI, if they're building an AI, I don't think they're even really focused on building their own AI at this point, but just hosting.
00:59:48.000 Dude, if Rumble can make a better AI image generator for your thumbnails than YouTube, that's a use case scenario.
00:59:55.000 Like people right now are on Rumble because of ethics.
00:59:58.000 That's not what Rumble's doing.
00:59:59.000 Rumble's building the compute.
01:00:01.000 They're building data centers.
01:00:03.000 They're going to be providing the infrastructure.
01:00:05.000 Right.
01:00:06.000 They wouldn't have like a Rumble AI necessarily, but if you could just use.
01:00:09.000 Well, they have Quake AI.
01:00:11.000 Yeah.
01:00:11.000 Quake?
01:00:12.000 I don't know about it.
01:00:13.000 Okay.
01:00:13.000 It's infrastructure.
01:00:14.000 You'll sign up right now.
01:00:16.000 Well, no, but it's just infrastructure.
01:00:17.000 So Anthropic, I believe, is going to be using their data centers for computing power.
01:00:21.000 Oh, God, that's awesome, bro.
01:00:22.000 Yep.
01:00:23.000 Yeah, that's because Anthropic's running into a bottleneck.
01:00:27.000 They're running out of compute.
01:00:30.000 That's the big.
01:00:31.000 The big problem right now, if I understand correctly.
01:00:33.000 There's this technology, I've mentioned it a few times before.
01:00:35.000 It's called, well, it's a working title, Iron Lattice.
01:00:37.000 And I met up with a scientist developing it at Rice University while I was interviewing people for a documentary I'm working on.
01:00:44.000 And it takes the memory of your computer and it puts it in the processor.
01:00:49.000 Right now, you have a processor and then there's memory, RAM, you know, and the computer has to send information back and forth between the processor and the RAM.
01:00:57.000 And that's called a busing.
01:00:58.000 That bus takes so much time and so much energy.
01:01:02.000 He's taking the memory and putting it in the processor.
01:01:05.000 It happens 10 million times faster at a million times less electricity.
01:01:10.000 So that will reduce the cost of a compute and speed it up.
01:01:14.000 But that's like flipping a switch of like the new dark ages.
01:01:17.000 Like if you don't know, you know.
01:01:18.000 And if you know, you don't know.
01:01:20.000 Like it will completely, if you can build a million times faster at basically zero cost, I mean, all the cats are out of the bag.
01:01:28.000 So I think they're probably afraid of that.
01:01:30.000 Like the power structure is like, oh shit, if a random 14 year old can build a better. America.gov than I can because he just sat there for 18 hours and decided to crush the whole power structure of the world, may change, you know.
01:01:44.000 But otherwise, you're just struggling for compute, and then it's going to be like territory conflicts for compute power.
01:01:51.000 Tim, what you were saying about all of the AI generation, what does that do to like?
01:01:56.000 I mean, you can make all these films and stuff like that.
01:01:58.000 What does that do, like you said, graphic designer stuff?
01:02:01.000 What does it do to like Netflix?
01:02:03.000 What does it do to all these?
01:02:04.000 Well, the working theory is that Disney is going to have like the Disney Creator's Corner.
01:02:08.000 You're going to open up your Disney Plus and you're going to click the microphone button on your phone and say, I want to watch Han Solo rob a bank.
01:02:17.000 And it's going to be like, boom.
01:02:18.000 And it's going to make three different screens.
01:02:20.000 And it's going to be like, Han Solo robs the New York Stock Exchange.
01:02:23.000 And you're going to be like, no, let's do Han Solo robbed Deutsche Bank.
01:02:26.000 And then you're going to watch a two hour long movie about Han Solo robbing a bank.
01:02:29.000 So actors, writers, graphics designers.
01:02:31.000 Gone.
01:02:32.000 Wow.
01:02:33.000 Gone.
01:02:35.000 Yeah, you're the creator of your own reality.
01:02:36.000 You just got to subscribe to the service.
01:02:38.000 Probably is how it's going to work.
01:02:40.000 Man, my brother called me last night and was like, Man, wouldn't it be cool if you know Disney is Star Wars?
01:02:44.000 If like, I don't know any failed actors, but I feel like I'm going to do what?
01:02:48.000 I don't know any failed actors, but I feel like we're all going to.
01:02:52.000 You could be the failed actor.
01:02:53.000 I mean, the there's going to be a situation where the likenesses of existing actors are going to be purchased.
01:03:00.000 Someone will give the you know, you'll probably end up finding people like Brad Pitt or like Harris Bowen or whatever.
01:03:07.000 You'll they'll sell their the rights to use their their likeness, sell their catalog, yeah, you know, they'll be like, Okay, you can use my likeness and.
01:03:15.000 It'll be Disney or Paramount or whoever will purchase the rights.
01:03:19.000 Maybe there'll be a term.
01:03:22.000 Maybe there won't be a term.
01:03:23.000 But actors will decide that they may want to do some movies and then they don't want to.
01:03:29.000 And they'll just license their likeness to someone else that wants to make AI.
01:03:33.000 Because I think that there's going to be, there probably will be a situation like Tim's describing, where people will create their own.
01:03:40.000 But there's still going to be, I think there'll still be regular movies made with people making them.
01:03:46.000 And stories being written by people.
01:03:48.000 Yeah, I mean, like the way we have vinyl, you know, it'll be like a prestigious thing.
01:03:52.000 My hypothesis for like video gaming is going to be so, my boy Andy knows more about Final Fantasy than literally anybody on the planet.
01:04:01.000 He's going to, there's going to be like on Steam, Steam's going to have like the, you know, the creator's corner, whatever you want to call it.
01:04:08.000 And people are going to be like, dude, did you see the new Final Fantasy that Andy made?
01:04:12.000 It's amazing.
01:04:13.000 He's going to have like 3 million followers and you're going to go to his profile and he's going to be posting video games like he posts tweets.
01:04:13.000 Dude, I follow him.
01:04:18.000 People are going to be like, this game's awesome.
01:04:21.000 And it's like, you'll get a good 20 to 40 hours out of the game and then you're done.
01:04:24.000 And then next week, he rolls with the next game.
01:04:27.000 Just GTA 7 comes out in three months.
01:04:31.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:04:32.000 The turnaround is incredible.
01:04:33.000 $1,000 a month, you can pump out $180,000 worth of content in a month.
01:04:40.000 Like a relative amount of what you could do five years ago.
01:04:44.000 The work I've done in this game so far, when we had Paul Martino here, I was asking him, like, what he thought.
01:04:49.000 Like, how long do you think it would take to make this?
01:04:51.000 He's like, years.
01:04:52.000 We did the estimate on the show about four, between two and four years of coding, art, and modeling work done in a weekend.
01:05:00.000 Dude, that's half a million dollars roughly or more if you include taxes, time off, or whatever for 200 bucks.
01:05:09.000 Skyrim took seven years to build.
01:05:11.000 You could do that in like six months now.
01:05:13.000 No, you could do that.
01:05:14.000 You could do that way faster.
01:05:16.000 Maybe it's a really, really good game.
01:05:19.000 That's one of the best.
01:05:19.000 If you got 10 people, they each signed up for Astra at 200 bucks a month.
01:05:24.000 And you told each of them, you're working on enemy AI and modeling, you're working on the world, you're working on the weapons, you're working on the spell system.
01:05:32.000 It would be done in a week.
01:05:34.000 Not a week, but you're getting there.
01:05:36.000 If you got.
01:05:38.000 I'm being hyperbolic.
01:05:39.000 Me too.
01:05:40.000 The point is, seven years, I think it could realistically be done in a couple months.
01:05:46.000 Yeah.
01:05:46.000 If you take the same amount of people, give them each their own Astra account and say, build it.
01:05:52.000 Oh, dude, you can own four Astra accounts yourself and just have one on each computer.
01:05:55.000 That's what I do.
01:05:56.000 I have multiple clot accounts and each one runs on a different service.
01:05:59.000 Otherwise, I burn through the compute too fast.
01:06:01.000 I do that as well.
01:06:02.000 Yeah, they encourage it actually.
01:06:04.000 Well, I mean, because it's cheaper in the long run because it's like $100, so you can have like four $20 accounts.
01:06:09.000 Yeah, I have multiple, 200, it's going to get crazy, boys.
01:06:13.000 Why don't we bring it back to earth and complain?
01:06:15.000 Learn how to surf.
01:06:16.000 We got this story from Mediaite.
01:06:18.000 Mike Johnson promises more of exactly the same if the GOP win midterms.
01:06:25.000 Great.
01:06:25.000 Okay.
01:06:26.000 But what we would do in the next two years is exactly what we have been doing already, and that is putting the conditions in place for a strong America again.
01:06:34.000 We restored not just American energy dominance and peace through strength, but a vibrant economy.
01:06:38.000 The conditions are there for this to take off, and that's why the stock market indexes are high.
01:06:42.000 That's why job numbers exceed expectations.
01:06:45.000 The Atlanta Fed says 5.1% economic growth expected in the third quarter.
01:06:50.000 That doesn't happen by happenstance.
01:06:52.000 It's because we did what we said we're going to do and put in pro growth, free market principles in legislation and in Federal policy, we have to continue that.
01:07:01.000 We got so much more to do and we can make things so much better.
01:07:04.000 We just got to keep going.
01:07:05.000 Poor choice of words.
01:07:07.000 Yeah, it was a terrible choice of words.
01:07:08.000 Substantially more articulate than Kamala Harris, but to say we're going to do exactly what we've been doing, when people are upset with an administration, whether they're doing good or bad, you have to give them something.
01:07:19.000 You have to say, listen, here's our plan moving forward and what you can expect.
01:07:24.000 Not more of the same.
01:07:26.000 We dipped out on Congress and went home early twice.
01:07:29.000 I'm hearing, rub my leg when you're screwing me, is what I'm hearing.
01:07:32.000 Well, I mean, because.
01:07:33.000 That's what I mean.
01:07:35.000 I grew up in the 80s.
01:07:36.000 Uh, this guy reminds me of Kevin from the Wonder years, and he just bothers me.
01:07:42.000 I just don't, I'm not getting what I'm not getting any return on investment.
01:07:47.000 Mike, but Mike Johnson should be better at messaging.
01:07:50.000 He should, he should understand, you know, he knows the poll numbers, he knows what it's likely to look like for the Republicans in the upcoming election.
01:07:59.000 To say we're going to give you more of the same is one of the worst gaffes that you can imagine.
01:08:04.000 You should know that people are going to hear that and they're going to hear, we're going to get more of the Iran war.
01:08:09.000 We're going to get more increases in inflation.
01:08:13.000 We're going to get more increases in the cost of borrowing money.
01:08:17.000 All of the bad things that people associate with the current administration, they're going to assume that that's what he's talking about.
01:08:27.000 And that's not going to win you any elections, it's not going to move the needle at all.
01:08:32.000 What he should have done is not said more of the same.
01:08:35.000 He should have said, we're going to Push policies that give us even more growth and mention the five point, the prediction from the Atlantic at about 5.1% growth.
01:08:45.000 Or he could have said, Our agenda right now is to secure oil production, see an end to this war, and get the American people a $5,000 dividend upon completion.
01:08:59.000 That's what's going to happen when you vote Republicans.
01:09:02.000 Five grand dropped off in your mailbox.
01:09:05.000 Mark my words.
01:09:06.000 I feel like right now America is full of cavities.
01:09:09.000 And this guy.
01:09:10.000 Wants you to go to the dentist and your cavities will be okay.
01:09:14.000 You know, yeah, he's not telling you how to heal your teeth.
01:09:16.000 No, it's not fixing anything, it's not repairing anything, it's not putting a filling.
01:09:20.000 I've never seen Mike Johnson.
01:09:22.000 I don't know if you can find a clip of him actually with any semblance of emotion.
01:09:28.000 There's no anger.
01:09:29.000 There's no sadness.
01:09:31.000 There's nothing.
01:09:32.000 The guy is a vanilla wafer, man.
01:09:35.000 I mean, he's just that.
01:09:36.000 And I want more out of that.
01:09:38.000 I come from the military background.
01:09:39.000 I want somebody that can fire me up.
01:09:42.000 I want Newt Rockne.
01:09:43.000 I want somebody that can inspire.
01:09:45.000 I want Vince Lombardi.
01:09:46.000 I want Nick Saban.
01:09:47.000 I want somebody that gets pissed off.
01:09:51.000 I want somebody that gets angry and has a semblance of emotion.
01:09:55.000 This is bullshit.
01:09:58.000 I'm with it.
01:09:58.000 In fact, the first thing I thought was I didn't like his tone.
01:10:00.000 And I mean, like Mike Johnson, who I still don't know, I'd love to hang out with Talk and we'd learn about it.
01:10:05.000 But when you're talking like this, and he's like, he's got this conciliatory begging tone in what he was just saying, we're going to do it.
01:10:12.000 It's going to be, we're going to, it's like he's begging.
01:10:15.000 It feels like he's on the defensive and he's begging.
01:10:18.000 You immediately hear his tone.
01:10:18.000 You can even run it again.
01:10:20.000 A lot of people don't necessarily immediately key into it.
01:10:22.000 He's a geometro.
01:10:24.000 He's a geometro.
01:10:25.000 Metro sexual.
01:10:26.000 To our younger viewers.
01:10:27.000 No, he's a, he's a, Or a Yugo.
01:10:29.000 You remember the Yugos?
01:10:30.000 Oh, God.
01:10:31.000 A car?
01:10:31.000 He's a Yugo.
01:10:32.000 The spare tires on the breather, right?
01:10:35.000 He doesn't sound like this guy, man.
01:10:36.000 He sounds, what's the lack of confidence mean?
01:10:38.000 Kevin from the world.
01:10:39.000 The word insecure.
01:10:40.000 He seems insecure about his position, probably because he knows what piss poor messaging he's doing.
01:10:45.000 Why is he afraid to piss anyone off?
01:10:46.000 Why is he afraid to show any ounce of emotion?
01:10:49.000 Why is he afraid to have any level of angst?
01:10:52.000 The people in his district are pissed off, and he doesn't reflect that.
01:10:56.000 The American people are pissed off.
01:10:58.000 He doesn't reflect this.
01:10:59.000 This is a vanilla.
01:11:01.000 Wafer.
01:11:02.000 Mike Johnson is useless as shit on a pub handle.
01:11:05.000 Is he getting directives directly from Trump?
01:11:08.000 And that's why he's just a mouthpiece for Trump rather than serve his district now that he's the head of the House?
01:11:08.000 No.
01:11:13.000 No, he's not.
01:11:14.000 I don't think that he is a mouthpiece for Donald Trump, but I think that he's a mouthpiece for the GOP overall.
01:11:21.000 It's a whole.
01:11:22.000 So he stepped away from representing his district, and as soon as he becomes Speaker of the House, he takes over this new role of now he only serves the Republican Party.
01:11:30.000 Well, he's the Speaker of the House and he's the leader of the Republicans.
01:11:33.000 So.
01:11:34.000 Other Republicans in the House.
01:11:36.000 So he's going to do things.
01:11:38.000 He's going to say things that are going to do.
01:11:40.000 He's going to do his best to try to make the Republicans look like they're doing good things.
01:11:46.000 Well, I mean, what is Mike Johnson going to say?
01:11:48.000 You know, I mean, I understand you're like, we'll get fired up.
01:11:50.000 But, well, I don't think the Speaker of the House is actually going to talk about the $5,000 freedom dividend.
01:11:54.000 It's something they have to pass.
01:11:55.000 Yeah, because he's not, he knows that he's not going to be able to pass that.
01:11:58.000 I would love for this guy.
01:11:59.000 This is politics, bro.
01:12:00.000 I would love for this guy to say what the American people want.
01:12:03.000 If he would have went on here and he said, you know what, we win the midterms.
01:12:06.000 I will talk with members in the Senate.
01:12:09.000 We will remove John Thune and we'll pass the Save America Act.
01:12:12.000 That's what the American people want to hear.
01:12:14.000 And this guy right here is like, you know, that dent in the car is really not that bad.
01:12:18.000 And if you re elect us, we'll give you a few more reasons.
01:12:21.000 I don't think most Americans even know who John Thune is.
01:12:23.000 You're probably right.
01:12:24.000 I don't.
01:12:24.000 I think regular people are like, yo, my gas is $4.30 right now.
01:12:29.000 So what he needs to say is directly addressing the American people's concerns.
01:12:34.000 And he can say, we're dealing with evil around the world that is causing your gas to go up.
01:12:40.000 And we're going to put a stop to it.
01:12:42.000 What we're going to do is we're going to put an end to this conflict.
01:12:44.000 And when we do and we secure all of that oil for the American people, your gas is going to go down two bucks and you're going to get a check in the mail for $5,000 as a thank you for doing what you had to do for your country.
01:12:55.000 And he knows in the back of his mind if Democrats win the midterms, take the House and the Senate, he's going to be on every show fundraising because it's send us your money.
01:13:06.000 The Democrats are evil.
01:13:08.000 That's the cycle.
01:13:09.000 That's the cycle.
01:13:10.000 You think they've just like tucked in and just accepted it's going to be a Democratic sweep?
01:13:14.000 In the midterms, and then next time they'll get it, and then the next time the other people will get it, and they'll just because the whole government this is what I think is the whole system is broken with $41 trillion in debt.
01:13:23.000 I just want some emotion.
01:13:24.000 I want the guy to reflect a little of the emotion, just maybe like 2.4% of the emotion.
01:13:30.000 The American people like McCarthy didn't, wasn't very emotional either.
01:13:34.000 And they're just like trying to save their job or something.
01:13:34.000 No, he's horrible.
01:13:37.000 If they get too opinionated, they're no longer a functional speaker because now they speak for themselves and not the House.
01:13:42.000 They're just scared to be honest with the American people, and you get all these other politicians that come on with these.
01:13:47.000 Quirky little sound bites.
01:13:49.000 John Kennedy, Senator John Kennedy, great sound bites, but yet he still voted to send money to Ukraine.
01:13:55.000 I'm trying to watch my language.
01:13:56.000 I thought you were going to say Vietnam.
01:13:58.000 Basically, the same.
01:13:59.000 But I'm just tired of that.
01:14:01.000 I want some emotion.
01:14:04.000 I want something that ignites the base.
01:14:07.000 And right now, it's not.
01:14:08.000 It's not.
01:14:09.000 And it pisses me off.
01:14:10.000 It's like I just don't see it coming from inside the party.
01:14:12.000 I don't know who, possibly, what Republican is fiery enough to actually talk straight other than Trump.
01:14:18.000 And Trump is telling us.
01:14:19.000 Brandon Gill.
01:14:20.000 Brandon Gill.
01:14:20.000 Yeah.
01:14:20.000 Who?
01:14:21.000 Yeah, Brady Bell's actually making sense.
01:14:22.000 That's the guy.
01:14:24.000 That's the only guy that I've heard anything good out of.
01:14:26.000 He's not afraid to piss people off.
01:14:28.000 I come from the submarine community.
01:14:30.000 You do not have time.
01:14:32.000 Hey, can you go shut that valve?
01:14:34.000 I hope you feel okay.
01:14:35.000 You don't have time for that.
01:14:36.000 It's shut the valve.
01:14:37.000 The ship is sinking.
01:14:39.000 Right now, the ship is sinking, and we need to shut the valve, and we need to close the watertight door.
01:14:45.000 And this is the problem right now.
01:14:47.000 This is the problem.
01:14:50.000 I don't know that.
01:14:52.000 I don't know that he's of that opinion.
01:14:54.000 He's useless.
01:14:57.000 I don't care who's watching.
01:14:58.000 He's useless.
01:15:01.000 I just don't think that he thinks that the United States is in that kind of dire straits.
01:15:08.000 I don't think that he understands that the American people are struggling or the number of Americans that are struggling, especially with the cost of gas.
01:15:16.000 This is Hillary trying to make coffee in the gas station.
01:15:20.000 You remember that?
01:15:22.000 When's the last time you think Mike Johnson pumped his own gas?
01:15:26.000 Oh, man.
01:15:27.000 Who knows?
01:15:27.000 Right?
01:15:28.000 It's been a long time.
01:15:29.000 This is Hillary making a coffee in the gas station.
01:15:32.000 That's what this is.
01:15:34.000 Well, I mean, look, he's definitely not, you know, he's not winning any friends with that headline.
01:15:40.000 You know, that was one of the most tone deaf things that I've seen come out.
01:15:44.000 Well, it's a great headline if you're a Democrat.
01:15:47.000 If you're a Democrat.
01:15:48.000 You know, but the Republicans are really not looking good right now.
01:15:54.000 Who do you think the leader of the Republican Party is?
01:15:56.000 Because I don't think Donald Trump.
01:15:57.000 Yeah, Trump.
01:15:58.000 Trump, right?
01:15:59.000 Who do you think the leader of the Democrat Party is?
01:16:02.000 AOC?
01:16:03.000 Yeah, it might be AOC.
01:16:05.000 Honestly, I think Coburn.
01:16:06.000 I would push the Democrats to do everything opposite of what he says.
01:16:09.000 Oh, that's interesting.
01:16:10.000 He leads them around by their tail.
01:16:12.000 I believe that.
01:16:13.000 It's wag the dog.
01:16:14.000 I really think that.
01:16:15.000 No, I don't think that.
01:16:15.000 I don't think that.
01:16:17.000 Tell me who the real leader of the Democrat Party is.
01:16:19.000 Well, like I said, I think Jim Coburn is still the kingmaker in South Carolina.
01:16:22.000 Right.
01:16:22.000 I think that he's actually the guy that's.
01:16:25.000 Like, you're not going to get the.
01:16:27.000 You're not going to be the candidate unless Coburn signs off.
01:16:30.000 So I think that, like.
01:16:32.000 Behind the scenes, it's Colburn.
01:16:34.000 As for who's actually going to be in a position of power, I think it might, it could be AOC.
01:16:40.000 I think Gavin Newsom might be able to.
01:16:42.000 Should Dems make Speaker of the House if they take the House?
01:16:45.000 I don't know.
01:16:45.000 I don't know.
01:16:47.000 AOC.
01:16:48.000 You think so?
01:16:49.000 I don't know.
01:16:50.000 I mean, she's the most prominent Democrat.
01:16:56.000 Oh boy.
01:16:57.000 I don't know what kind of vitamins I'm going to need if that happens.
01:16:59.000 I really don't.
01:17:01.000 NAD?
01:17:02.000 That's a vitamin.
01:17:02.000 I don't know.
01:17:03.000 That's not a vitamin.
01:17:04.000 But there are 13 vitamins that you need.
01:17:06.000 So make sure to get all 13 of those.
01:17:09.000 I mean, I guess AOC is possible.
01:17:11.000 I kind of feel like she's going to try and make a Senate run before she runs for president.
01:17:15.000 But there are still people that think that she could run for president coming in 2028.
01:17:20.000 I mean, do you think it's a reality that she could run?
01:17:20.000 We'll see.
01:17:23.000 Could run?
01:17:24.000 Absolutely.
01:17:25.000 Yeah.
01:17:25.000 Yeah.
01:17:25.000 What else has she got going on?
01:17:26.000 Bartending?
01:17:27.000 Bernie Sanders will be.
01:17:27.000 Come on.
01:17:29.000 Single now, right?
01:17:30.000 Yeah.
01:17:30.000 You saw that video she made where she was basically ragging on her fiancé?
01:17:34.000 No.
01:17:35.000 She's a fem cell.
01:17:38.000 I don't think that she could win.
01:17:40.000 I used to think that she might be able to pull it off.
01:17:42.000 I don't think that she can win anymore.
01:17:44.000 I think the.
01:17:46.000 There's an interesting phenomenon happening right now where liberals don't have kids, right?
01:17:46.000 But it's not being able to.
01:17:52.000 They do rarely.
01:17:53.000 And if they do, they're more likely to have gay kids or trans kids or even abort their kids if they get pregnant.
01:17:59.000 The math leads in one direction.
01:18:02.000 Over a certain amount of time, like, so the next generation, Gen Alpha, it's going to be disproportionately raised by conservatives because conservatives are having more kids than liberals.
01:18:16.000 It's been the case since the 2000s.
01:18:18.000 And it's why.
01:18:19.000 Likely why, in my opinion, we've seen for the first time in five generations, Gen Z moved slightly rightward on certain cultural issues.
01:18:28.000 It wasn't because Charlie Kirk convinced them, although he was convincing to get people out to vote.
01:18:32.000 You don't change a teenager's mind, you raise a child into a teenager.
01:18:37.000 You're not going to go to Gen Z right now and convince them to switch parties because their worldview is largely being formed.
01:18:43.000 Now, radically altering someone's worldview is a difficult process and it can lead to mental breakdowns on a lot of people.
01:18:50.000 So, what I think we're going to see, AOC is not going to be able to win because she's a single, childless, aging woman.
01:18:58.000 Now, liberals love that, and the feminists are going to cheer for it.
01:19:03.000 But the dominant group of people are going to be like, you know, I don't trust a person who doesn't have a family.
01:19:08.000 After Lindsey Clancy, I don't think a woman's going to win for a decade.
01:19:12.000 Oh, yeah.
01:19:13.000 After Lindsey Clancy, like, probably a third of women are like, I'm never voting for a woman.
01:19:19.000 And almost all of them.
01:19:21.000 Is that high?
01:19:22.000 Oh, yeah.
01:19:23.000 I mean, look, Trump supporting women are saying women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
01:19:28.000 Yeah, repeal the 19th.
01:19:30.000 I mean, the damage that the Lindsey Clancy supporters have done to the feminist movement or to the idea of women in positions of power, I don't think you can understate it.
01:19:43.000 People are just like, wait a minute, there are millions of women out there that are supporting this woman and saying that she should be let go.
01:19:50.000 How am I supposed to actually vote for a woman when women are this.
01:19:56.000 I mean, people filing for divorce because the wife supports.
01:19:59.000 Yeah.
01:20:00.000 And if women, because the argument that they're making for the Lindsey Clancy thing, and all of her supporters agree, is you can't blame her for what she did.
01:20:09.000 Everyone knows she did it, but you can't blame her for what she did because women's emotions cannot be controlled the same way that men can, which is the exact argument that was made 100 years ago or more against the idea of women getting the right to vote, against women's suffrage.
01:20:25.000 That was the first Democrat presidential debate.
01:20:28.000 I can't wait.
01:20:29.000 It is going to be.
01:20:30.000 Buttigieg.
01:20:31.000 Who else?
01:20:32.000 Gavin Newsom, AOC, Bernie Sanders.
01:20:35.000 I want the first Sanders's.
01:20:36.000 He's going to be 85.
01:20:37.000 He better run and then just dip out.
01:20:39.000 He's not going to.
01:20:39.000 I just want some stage work.
01:20:40.000 Whoever the moderator is, who supports Lindsey Clancy?
01:20:43.000 I want to see those hands go up.
01:20:45.000 It'd be interesting to have a moderator from the other party for each debate.
01:20:49.000 Oh, it'll be Megan Kelly.
01:20:50.000 It'll be Megan Kelly.
01:20:50.000 You think it'd be too bad?
01:20:51.000 Come on.
01:20:52.000 Come on.
01:20:53.000 The thing about men and women.
01:20:54.000 I got to be honest.
01:20:54.000 I don't know.
01:20:56.000 Like, Megan Kelly, maybe, but we're right up on.
01:20:58.000 I'm McCallum.
01:20:59.000 Yeah, but we as a culture don't have replacements for these people.
01:21:05.000 It'd be cool if it was you.
01:21:07.000 Maybe it's moderated by AI and it's just questions.
01:21:09.000 I was just thinking that.
01:21:10.000 Oh, God.
01:21:11.000 I'm going to take that over personalities.
01:21:14.000 Put an AI up on stage and be like, fact check?
01:21:16.000 An optimist bot?
01:21:17.000 You need a fact checker.
01:21:18.000 Yeah, an optimist bot.
01:21:19.000 Optimist bot, yeah.
01:21:19.000 I mean, you're going to have the uncouth CNN.
01:21:21.000 That was an incorrect statement, right?
01:21:22.000 No, AI's wrong all the time.
01:21:22.000 I don't trust AI.
01:21:23.000 Yeah, you'd have to have like nine AIs.
01:21:24.000 And if they all agree that what you said was wrong and how, then you'd have to have like nine AIs.
01:21:28.000 And if they all agree that what you said was wrong and how, then you'd have to have.
01:21:31.000 Have you guys seen the AIs play mafia?
01:21:34.000 No.
01:21:34.000 You've not seen these videos?
01:21:35.000 They're hilarious.
01:21:37.000 A guy loads, there's like nine AI models.
01:21:39.000 Do you know how to play mafia?
01:21:40.000 Mm mm.
01:21:41.000 So, like, what is it like?
01:21:43.000 Eight people, two people are mafia, the rest are citizens, and you got to figure out who the mobsters are and kill them.
01:21:48.000 And if you don't, then the mafia wins.
01:21:50.000 And every night you vote someone to be executed.
01:21:53.000 And the AIs are like arguing with each other about who's, you know, they're hilarious videos.
01:21:58.000 Yeah.
01:21:59.000 AI is not going to be able to fact check anything.
01:22:01.000 You need a bunch of them.
01:22:01.000 No, they won't.
01:22:02.000 And if all their fact checks come organized and correlated, then you say, okay, there's a preponderance of potentiality there.
01:22:08.000 But I mean, no human's perfect either.
01:22:10.000 They're reading from some script on some website, they have an agenda.
01:22:14.000 Every single presidential debate that I've seen, the moderators all have an agenda.
01:22:20.000 This is my thought about men and women.
01:22:21.000 Because I'm not like women can't lead.
01:22:23.000 I don't think that.
01:22:24.000 I just think that logic is the best status of a leader.
01:22:28.000 Like the best thing a leadership could have is logic.
01:22:31.000 And then there's this like 95% logic is leadership.
01:22:36.000 And then there's like 5%, you better not, it's emotion and you better not mess it up or you're completely doomed.
01:22:40.000 And that's where the wife comes in and can tell the guy, like, don't be a douche.
01:22:44.000 And she'll instruct you like how to socialize so that you can use your logic.
01:22:47.000 It's not about whether women can or can't.
01:22:51.000 It's that because there are definitely some women that could, but it's about like the odds of finding a woman that can or the odds of the woman in question being able to do it.
01:23:03.000 Right.
01:23:04.000 Like it's not a matter of, oh, you know, no women anywhere could ever do this job because obviously they're going to be outliers.
01:23:10.000 But most women should not be in positions that, you know, Positions of authority.
01:23:16.000 Are we talking pre or post menopausal?
01:23:20.000 I don't know.
01:23:22.000 I just ask that so you get the answer.
01:23:24.000 I think everybody, I think just, again, it depends on the woman, right?
01:23:27.000 Because again, there are women that, whether they're pre or post menopausal, they would be great leaders, you know?
01:23:34.000 But that doesn't mean that the woman that is in the position running is one of those women.
01:23:40.000 And the idea that, oh, well, she got to where she is because she has all of the great characteristics that are necessary, there's no reason to believe that.
01:23:49.000 You have plenty of people in Congress that are out of their minds.
01:23:54.000 Cori Bush was in Congress for a long time and she's as dumb as a box of rocks.
01:23:58.000 No, that's offensive to rocks.
01:24:01.000 Cori Bush was bad.
01:24:03.000 And there are a bunch of people that, you know, I'm not going to go down the list of people that I think that shouldn't be, of women that I think that shouldn't be in Congress, but there are plenty of women that I've, and there are plenty of men too, but there are plenty of women that I'm like, yo, these people should not be in Congress, but they get there because they have the right mix of charisma.
01:24:20.000 And they're willing to do the job and they know the right people.
01:24:23.000 Some people are willing to throw money behind them and they can go out and press flesh and they'll convince people to vote for them, right?
01:24:30.000 They speak to the voting public in their district and they can convince them.
01:24:35.000 But that doesn't mean that they actually should be in Congress.
01:24:38.000 Would Jasmine Crockett be a vice presidential candidate?
01:24:41.000 I don't think so.
01:24:42.000 But Jasmine Crockett's smarter than she lets on, I'll tell you that.
01:24:45.000 Yeah, because she was going for Tellerico.
01:24:47.000 Tellerico and her were in a race.
01:24:50.000 I don't think Jasmine Crockett is uniquely.
01:24:55.000 I think she's actually fairly intelligent.
01:24:57.000 Plays a role.
01:24:57.000 Yeah, she played a role, definitely.
01:24:59.000 It's all WWE.
01:25:00.000 You got the heels, you got the heroes.
01:25:02.000 To have a hero, you have to have a heel.
01:25:04.000 I mean, I wouldn't say it's all WWE, but in Congress, it's a lot.
01:25:07.000 I think the Senate is significantly less WWE.
01:25:10.000 They all think that their poop don't stink.
01:25:13.000 They all think that they're like, we're the upper house and we're the deliberative slow body, et cetera, et cetera.
01:25:18.000 Whereas because of the turnover rate in the House of Representatives, that's where you get all the clowns.
01:25:24.000 I used to work in D.C. lobbying for a veterans group, and the gamesmanship, I would say, was toxic.
01:25:33.000 I mean, so then you know Congress is definitely full of clowns, whereas the Senate, They're not, they don't do, they're playing it safe most of the time.
01:25:42.000 They don't like to step out, you know, and take risks on anything.
01:25:46.000 The Senate is, you know, they're full of themselves.
01:25:50.000 They think they're better than Democrats.
01:25:52.000 What else is there to risk?
01:25:53.000 I mean, they can't really do anything now that you're going to be like, well, that sounds crazy.
01:25:57.000 They can't out crazy each other anymore.
01:26:00.000 They're finished without crazying each other.
01:26:02.000 Well, we were talking earlier about how YouTube's going to A B test all this stuff.
01:26:02.000 Yeah.
01:26:09.000 Everyone's going to be living in weird little bubbles.
01:26:12.000 You will go online and you will own, like, it's going to be nuts.
01:26:15.000 You're going to go online and you're going to live in rural Nebraska and you're only going to see one political message and it's going to align your political views around your community.
01:26:24.000 You're going to hear that, you know, like JD Vance kicked a dog and you're going to be like, wow, I'd never vote for that guy.
01:26:30.000 Then, and you'll watch a video of it.
01:26:32.000 Then you'll live, people will live in West Virginia and they'll see a video of JD Vance running out of a burning building carrying a bag of puppies that he just saved.
01:26:39.000 No one's going to believe the same thing.
01:26:40.000 And he stumbles over one, but they're like, he kicked it.
01:26:43.000 He kicked it intentionally.
01:26:44.000 Or, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:26:44.000 You see his wife was being attacked.
01:26:46.000 No, I'm not saying that.
01:26:47.000 That's not the point I'm making is that it's going to be overt.
01:26:49.000 That you will watch a video of JD Vance carrying puppies out of a fire, and liberals will watch a video of him punting a dog off a bridge.
01:26:55.000 That seems like a national security threat, to be honest.
01:26:59.000 No, that seems like if you're the security state, the best thing you could hope for.
01:27:03.000 Letting a corporation mislead your populace to send them at each other doesn't work.
01:27:06.000 So long as you got the back door and the gun to their head, what are you worried about?
01:27:09.000 To whose head?
01:27:10.000 As long as you own the back door and have a gun to their head.
01:27:14.000 Going to whose head?
01:27:14.000 A gun to whose head?
01:27:15.000 The big tech companies.
01:27:18.000 But for them to sow division like that, I don't think that's what it sounds like.
01:27:21.000 You understand that when the FBI had a back door into X and Facebook, that's no different than the Communist Party of China having offices in their tech company platforms?
01:27:31.000 Yeah, pretty similar.
01:27:33.000 Yeah, they had residents.
01:27:35.000 Yep.
01:27:36.000 But I don't know.
01:27:37.000 I mean, either it's like darker, darker.
01:27:40.000 Uh, You either let the government use Google's A B testing to mislead the public into what they want, or you let Google mislead, like get the public to go at each other with confusion.
01:27:51.000 Either side is like a loss.
01:27:53.000 The way you're characterizing it is a little, I think it's a little bit.
01:27:59.000 It sounds like you're laying the onus on the companies that provide the tools as opposed to the people that would use the tools in a way to mislead the public.
01:28:09.000 Yeah, it's more on the company.
01:28:11.000 A duty to.
01:28:13.000 I disagree.
01:28:13.000 Well, like a newspaper, if a newspaper told you a different thing to every person that bought the newspaper, that would be very bad.
01:28:19.000 So is Ford responsible for your DUI?
01:28:22.000 Ford?
01:28:23.000 No.
01:28:24.000 Well, then how can you hold the company responsible?
01:28:26.000 Is Glock responsible if someone misuses a handgun?
01:28:29.000 No, but if they mislead me in the paperwork when I buy my Ford motor vehicle and then something happens as a result.
01:28:36.000 And you get a DUI?
01:28:38.000 Then it's their fault?
01:28:39.000 It's how.
01:28:39.000 If it's DUI, there's.
01:28:41.000 I mean, if you see a TV thing and then you go do some crime, it's not the TV thing's.
01:28:46.000 You don't blame the TV outright.
01:28:48.000 That's kind of the point.
01:28:50.000 But there's like, you know, they'll try, people can try and destroy you by like coordinated effort.
01:28:50.000 The bad word.
01:28:55.000 Like we talk about this sometimes where a guy will be like, all Nazis must be punched.
01:29:00.000 And then the other guy's like, there's a Nazi.
01:29:02.000 And you're like, neither one of them said that you're supposed to go punch.
01:29:04.000 Yeah, tweedledy tweedledum death threats.
01:29:05.000 Two guys stand in a corner.
01:29:06.000 One guy says, We must kill a certain group of people.
01:29:09.000 The other guy says, Look, it's a group of people.
01:29:12.000 Neither of them has committed an illegal act.
01:29:14.000 But together, Tweedledee and Tweedledum have just said, Go kill this group.
01:29:18.000 So, although YouTube wouldn't necessarily be doing anything wrong by giving two different people two different videos, they might be creating a cohesive misalignment that could be a correlative threat.
01:29:30.000 I still think that the tools that are provided by YouTube are not, in and of themselves, a bad thing.
01:29:39.000 No, that's true.
01:29:40.000 It's a cool tool.
01:29:41.000 So it's how people use them that's actually the problem.
01:29:44.000 It's the people that create stuff, I think, that actually cause the problem.
01:29:48.000 So it's what they're creating and what they're doing.
01:29:50.000 The tools in and of themselves aren't bad or fantastic.
01:29:54.000 Yeah.
01:29:54.000 So I don't think that the companies that you're talking about are actually responsible.
01:29:59.000 I think that it's the people that are actually creating it.
01:30:03.000 I mean, if Google, if they see you intentionally misleading the public with different videos through an A B test.
01:30:09.000 But intentionally misleading the public, if you produce a video.
01:30:13.000 That leaves out information, even if it's information that, say, you don't have, right?
01:30:18.000 And it misleads people.
01:30:19.000 That's the same kind of thing.
01:30:21.000 Well, you, you produced this video that didn't tell people the correct information.
01:30:25.000 This is actually getting into what was going on during, during COVID with misinformation, disinformation, malinformation.
01:30:33.000 They were setting up all these, they were basically producing all these different ways to accuse people of doing something nefarious.
01:30:40.000 And it is similar.
01:30:41.000 And it's along the same path, which is why I'm a little nervous about asking YouTube to censor people.
01:30:46.000 But, Also, having someone tell you something and accidentally leaving something out is different than them intentionally misleading you by giving you two different messages.
01:30:55.000 That's a very dangerous thing.
01:30:56.000 You have to be able to prove that you're monetizing on the site and you're misleading people for money.
01:31:01.000 That should be demonetization.
01:31:03.000 So, what if Tim decided that he wanted to make one video where he was taking one perspective and he was making an argument for that perspective about a topic?
01:31:13.000 And then he wanted to make another video where he was arguing for the opposing perspective.
01:31:17.000 About the same topic.
01:31:19.000 It's his prerogative.
01:31:20.000 If he wants to make a video that says, look, this is the way these people see it and blah, and then this is the way that these people see it and blah, He's talking about the same topic.
01:31:28.000 He's talking about two different viewpoints.
01:31:30.000 Neither one is technically wrong because they're viewpoints.
01:31:33.000 Just because they're not.
01:31:34.000 Yeah, and people should be allowed to do that.
01:31:36.000 As long as people know that that's what he is doing.
01:31:41.000 If it's like, you know, the whole thing, like, what I'm not going to say is, and then say the thing that you're not going to say.
01:31:46.000 And it's like, remember when I was like, what I'm about to say is just not true, but people are going to run with it anyway.
01:31:51.000 Donald Trump called me on the phone and he said, Tim, which is great.
01:31:54.000 And then people, they wrote articles about it.
01:31:57.000 Yeah, I would joke with my friends.
01:31:58.000 I'd be like, I'm not saying you are an idiot.
01:32:01.000 I'm not saying you're a moron.
01:32:01.000 That's not what I'm saying.
01:32:03.000 You can't get anything right.
01:32:04.000 Remember the skit we made where you were on the ramp at the castle and you were like, I lost the election.
01:32:04.000 That's not what I'm saying.
01:32:09.000 So I'm not saying storm the castle.
01:32:13.000 And then Chris edited the video.
01:32:15.000 So you're like, I didn't lose.
01:32:17.000 Storm the castle.
01:32:18.000 Revenge.
01:32:19.000 Yeah.
01:32:20.000 Yeah.
01:32:21.000 They just had to put disclaimers on everything.
01:32:23.000 Oh, man.
01:32:25.000 You know, I'm such an agent of chaos sometimes that I'm like, yeah, let it all happen.
01:32:29.000 See what happens.
01:32:30.000 The best will rise, the most powerful will rise to the top.
01:32:32.000 But that's really not where I'm at.
01:32:34.000 I'm very concerned about social networks protecting the integrity of the network.
01:32:38.000 And bad actors will use the shit out of technology.
01:32:43.000 Bad actors are doing that currently.
01:32:45.000 You've got to block their accounts.
01:32:47.000 No, you violate it.
01:32:47.000 Because that's freedom of speech.
01:32:49.000 You want to violate people's ability.
01:32:51.000 Not their First Amendment, their freedom, their terms of service.
01:32:54.000 Violations.
01:32:56.000 If they're telling people things that are not true, they're intentionally misleading people and they're monetized.
01:33:00.000 Yeah.
01:33:00.000 I think that I would hope that would be a violation of terms of service.
01:33:03.000 I don't think that's true.
01:33:04.000 Representation of information.
01:33:06.000 I don't think that it is.
01:33:08.000 I don't think it is.
01:33:09.000 I mean, it depends on, I suppose it depends on how they say it, but you know, there's always like the consumer of whatever media you're talking about.
01:33:18.000 Like, they have a certain amount of understanding that, like, I need to, you know, look for the sources or do you cite your sources or what's the, where does this come from?
01:33:29.000 Some people will just take it and run with it and say, well, this is, I heard this on a YouTube video and they'll go and talk about it with their friends or what have you and it might be bad information or wrong information.
01:33:39.000 But I don't think the government should get involved in doing anything about it because of, and I think the best example is because of what the government did during COVID.
01:33:50.000 They did a whole lot of suppressing information that they didn't want out there.
01:33:54.000 We just had, you know, Dr. Ron on.
01:33:56.000 He was talking about what they did to him, and he was actually putting out good information.
01:34:01.000 The term government is like malleable in that a corporation has its own.
01:34:06.000 How about the DOJ?
01:34:07.000 Yeah, get the American government out of it.
01:34:09.000 Google itself is a government, it's governing its own.
01:34:12.000 Service.
01:34:13.000 You want to call it that for the purposes of this discussion?
01:34:15.000 That's fine with me.
01:34:16.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:34:16.000 You go like there's the room where this company has a government of itself.
01:34:21.000 You know, every company governs itself, it rules itself.
01:34:24.000 Then there's the free speech aspect, though.
01:34:25.000 You start playing on that.
01:34:27.000 That is, oh boy.
01:34:29.000 Like YouTube does have terms of service.
01:34:33.000 We all know that.
01:34:33.000 We play the game, so we play by their rules.
01:34:36.000 It's their casino.
01:34:37.000 The house wins.
01:34:38.000 But when you start regulating free speech, because all I got to say is, This is an opinion piece.
01:34:44.000 This is an editorial.
01:34:45.000 I mean, that's all you got to do, right?
01:34:45.000 This is an opinion.
01:34:48.000 I mean, that's literally who can say your opinion is bad.
01:34:52.000 I'm shutting you down.
01:34:54.000 Who can do that?
01:34:55.000 I mean, I saw a dude today wearing a mask, driving his car, and he had an air freshener hanging from the mirror.
01:35:00.000 I thought it was ironic, but like people still doing that.
01:35:03.000 Well, if you came over my house and started saying stuff that I didn't like and upsetting my family, I could say get out.
01:35:09.000 Sure.
01:35:10.000 I could ban you from my house.
01:35:11.000 And Google has a right to ban you from their system, it's a private company.
01:35:14.000 But then it becomes a question of what.
01:35:16.000 Is and is not acceptable.
01:35:19.000 And we're going to, I'm using the official meaning of the word government, like the federal government.
01:35:25.000 If the federal government decides that they don't like the information that you're allowing people to put out through your platform, then and you have a history of banning people, then they're going to do exactly what they did to Twitter during COVID and what they did to Facebook and say, look, we know you ban people for things.
01:35:43.000 Why don't you ban these people?
01:35:44.000 Because we don't like what they're saying.
01:35:47.000 And the government.
01:35:48.000 And I'm talking about the federal government, just the federal government contacting people carries a significant weight.
01:35:54.000 If the government hits you up and says, hey, we'd prefer if you didn't do this, most companies are going to say, I don't want the federal government to be looking at me any more than necessary.
01:36:07.000 So we're going to do what they say because it's no skin off my back if I go ahead and block these random accounts.
01:36:13.000 I don't care.
01:36:14.000 Makes my job easier.
01:36:17.000 And we become England.
01:36:18.000 I mean, so this is just a bad idea saying that.
01:36:18.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:36:23.000 You know, we have to worry about Google or YouTube allowing people to put up multiple, you know, videos or maybe terms of service.
01:36:32.000 I mean, it depends on all of them.
01:36:34.000 I mean, yeah, I guess, but you know, I just think that I think that the onus is on the people that are viewing to decide, you know, make sure what they're viewing is actually true if they actually care.
01:36:46.000 And if they're just watching it for entertainment, it's fine.
01:36:49.000 Yeah, you put a disclaimer for entertainment purposes only.
01:36:52.000 Or at the beginning of the video, be like, I don't believe anything I'm about to say.
01:36:55.000 That doesn't matter.
01:36:56.000 Talk for 20 minutes.
01:36:57.000 And just fully believe it while you're saying it.
01:37:00.000 All you got to do is that little thing.
01:37:01.000 There's a lot of big prominent names.
01:37:04.000 I won't say any that they have built empires on that.
01:37:07.000 Yeah.
01:37:08.000 I mean, look, it's just a matter of you don't want to give the federal government that kind of ability to say, hey, you shouldn't do this.
01:37:19.000 No, you're right.
01:37:19.000 And they shouldn't have to get involved.
01:37:21.000 If the corporation's doing it right, they won't have to get involved.
01:37:23.000 That's why if YouTube lets people start mass deceiving with their video A B tests, the government might have to step in because it can destroy the culture.
01:37:32.000 But again, we go back to.
01:37:33.000 Not according to the Constitution.
01:37:35.000 No.
01:37:37.000 You can say what you want.
01:37:38.000 But, like, if a guy with a megaphone came to town and paid a bunch of people to lie and then they were all screaming lies at him.
01:37:43.000 That was always allowed.
01:37:44.000 Huh?
01:37:45.000 That's protected speech.
01:37:45.000 It's always been a thing.
01:37:47.000 You could call it disrupting the peace.
01:37:49.000 I mean, you could find a way to break it up if you're causing chaos in town, even if it's with words.
01:37:54.000 So, you're saying the government should use other laws to silence speech?
01:37:58.000 Yeah, like if a big mob came into town coordinatedly, we're spreading lies and tricking the population.
01:38:04.000 Like, the sheriff could come by and start rounding those people up.
01:38:07.000 Yeah, despite the fact that it would be unconstitutional, they could make up a fake reason to arrest people that are dissidents that they don't like.
01:38:11.000 If they're causing, like, disturbing the peace, which maybe they're doing it with their free speech, you know, messing up the local economy, scaring people, making a husband think that his wife lied to them.
01:38:25.000 So you're saying speech?
01:38:26.000 Yeah, doing it with words.
01:38:27.000 Lies are protected speech.
01:38:32.000 Do you know why they're protected speech, Ian?
01:38:35.000 Because some lies are true.
01:38:36.000 Who determines what is true or not?
01:38:38.000 Exactly.
01:38:38.000 Therefore, the government cannot tell someone.
01:38:41.000 We are siding with this person because we think they're telling the truth.
01:38:44.000 But if a guy blatantly says, I don't believe this, but I told a bunch of people in town it, and I don't believe this, but I told a bunch of other people that, then the sheriff might have a thing and be like, okay, well, you're creating chaos in town.
01:38:57.000 Like, you've done so much damage to the civilians of the town by spreading this lie with your newspaper or whatever.
01:39:04.000 Welcome to all media all the time throughout history.
01:39:07.000 Yeah.
01:39:08.000 I was about to say, wake up.
01:39:10.000 It's happening right now.
01:39:11.000 And also, there's a big.
01:39:12.000 There's a big jump from telling people information to causing chaos.
01:39:15.000 That's what I heard.
01:39:17.000 Quote him saying.
01:39:18.000 Should Candace Owens be arrested?
01:39:19.000 For what?
01:39:20.000 For lying about Charlie Kirk and Israel.
01:39:22.000 No.
01:39:23.000 But it's causing chaos.
01:39:24.000 I mean, maybe banned from YouTube if that's violating the terms of service.
01:39:26.000 But she's making them a lot of money, so I see why they haven't done it.
01:39:29.000 But should she be arrested for disorderly or threatening the peace because she's spreading lies?
01:39:34.000 It shouldn't have to become illegal.
01:39:34.000 No, no.
01:39:35.000 I mean, they're threatening Erica Kirk with death.
01:39:38.000 She has to get security and cancel events because of the.
01:39:40.000 You're going to go after the mom now.
01:39:41.000 So do you think that Candace should be arrested?
01:39:43.000 No, I already said that.
01:39:44.000 Okay, so then your previous argument you don't even agree with?
01:39:47.000 Well, it's a terms of service issue with Candace.
01:39:48.000 No, no, no.
01:39:49.000 You said there was a guy walking around town lying and it was causing.
01:39:52.000 Yeah, using a newspaper or a megaphone or whatever.
01:39:54.000 Right.
01:39:54.000 And a guy says a wife no longer trusts the husband now.
01:39:58.000 The sheriff's like, I got to do something about it.
01:40:00.000 So, yeah, Candace would qualify under that argument.
01:40:02.000 You don't agree with your own argument?
01:40:06.000 No, I don't think Candace Owens should be in any way responsible for any kind of criminal activity.
01:40:11.000 But in a.
01:40:12.000 So, again, again, the argument you made about a guy walking around town with a bullhorn and lying.
01:40:12.000 So, why?
01:40:19.000 You said he should be arrested.
01:40:20.000 I don't think she's intentionally misleading people, but that's not material to the question.
01:40:24.000 If a guy is specifically in a town, like causing chaos in the town, the sheriff's going to pay him a visit.
01:40:30.000 So you said before, what if the guy says, I don't actually believe this, I'm going to go say it anyway, right?
01:40:34.000 Yeah.
01:40:35.000 And that, so that shows intent, he should be arrested.
01:40:37.000 Hate agitator.
01:40:38.000 I don't know if it's a, I don't know if it's, I mean, you could.
01:40:40.000 That was your argument.
01:40:41.000 If he goes and sparks a riot or something.
01:40:43.000 I'm asking you your argument, you just said.
01:40:45.000 It's sort of like what happens afterwards.
01:40:47.000 If a guy says, I don't really believe this.
01:40:51.000 But I'm saying it anyway.
01:40:52.000 Should he be arrested?
01:40:53.000 He goes and he's like, there's a bomb.
01:40:55.000 Like, he makes up something and he tells people they're going to kill you.
01:40:57.000 And then he gives people horrible lies.
01:40:59.000 That's how you're saying you should be arrested?
01:41:01.000 For stuff like that?
01:41:02.000 No one's going to be arrested.
01:41:02.000 Yeah.
01:41:04.000 So, when Candace came out and said, if Erica asks me politely, I will stop talking about this.
01:41:10.000 And then when Erica met with her, she accused Erica and said that she was involved in the murder of her husband, she should be arrested?
01:41:17.000 No, I don't think so.
01:41:19.000 Why not?
01:41:19.000 Because I don't know.
01:41:20.000 It's not targeting a community.
01:41:22.000 It's not like.
01:41:23.000 Yeah, it's just targeting a family.
01:41:24.000 Is that intentionally misleading?
01:41:27.000 It is.
01:41:31.000 Okay, I'm trying to parse the difference here.
01:41:33.000 There isn't one.
01:41:34.000 It's your argument.
01:41:34.000 Between a girl on the internet talking shit and a guy in a town causing.
01:41:38.000 What's the difference between a.
01:41:40.000 So she's got substantially larger influence to substantially more people, resulting in substantially higher costs, death threats, and fears of violence, and that's lesser than a guy with a bullhorn.
01:41:52.000 It just depends on what the outcome is.
01:41:55.000 I think the reality is you don't want to accept the argument you just made because it results in the arrest of people.
01:41:59.000 If a guy tells someone to kill themselves and they don't do it, it's not illegal.
01:42:02.000 But if they do do it, it becomes illegal.
01:42:03.000 That's actually not the case.
01:42:04.000 We confirmed it was, in fact, illegal to do.
01:42:06.000 It's just a lesser crime.
01:42:07.000 Like, attempted murder is not the same as murder.
01:42:10.000 Right?
01:42:11.000 I don't know.
01:42:11.000 I mean, it's not the same, no.
01:42:13.000 But is it literally illegal to tell someone to kill themselves?
01:42:16.000 Yes.
01:42:17.000 That sounds kind of.
01:42:19.000 That's why that woman went to jail for telling the boyfriend to kill himself.
01:42:24.000 And in this argument, YouTube is the town.
01:42:27.000 Candace is the town.
01:42:29.000 Well, my point is she should not be arrested or charged for saying things that are wrong, nor should a man with a bullhorn.
01:42:36.000 It's not illegal to tell someone to kill themselves.
01:42:37.000 It is.
01:42:38.000 Depends heavily on the state and the circumstances.
01:42:40.000 So.
01:42:41.000 It's a lot about.
01:42:41.000 That means it is.
01:42:43.000 We had a massive trial for a woman who told her boyfriend to kill himself.
01:42:47.000 And this is like a one off insult, it's different than deliberately pressuring someone.
01:42:50.000 Indeed.
01:42:51.000 Saying something dumb like kill yourself when you don't really mean it is different from intentionally going to someone and providing them instruction.
01:42:58.000 So again, saying.
01:42:59.000 Right, and that's like the definition of what a guy in the town square might be doing by sewing chaos on purpose or someone that just says it out loud.
01:43:05.000 But how do you prove he is sewing chaos on purpose?
01:43:08.000 Well, you see him make three different videos that tell everyone different things on purpose.
01:43:12.000 Like Candace Owens.
01:43:13.000 Like Candace Owens.
01:43:14.000 I don't think she's.
01:43:15.000 No, Ian, come on.
01:43:15.000 Doing that.
01:43:16.000 Accept your own argument, it makes no sense.
01:43:19.000 You can either choose to have candidates arrested or you can recognize people are allowed to lie.
01:43:23.000 I'm not saying that people, I'm saying if you're intentionally misleading the public.
01:43:27.000 You are allowed to do that, yes.
01:43:29.000 But it causes damage, like a riot.
01:43:32.000 You would be liable for that.
01:43:33.000 But it's allowed.
01:43:35.000 There's a lot of televangelists that fall under that.
01:43:38.000 Dudes.
01:43:39.000 Are we going to go arrest every single activist for the environment who goes on and lies like Greta Thunberg?
01:43:44.000 No, but if they spark a riot or something, if they spark a riot, you know.
01:43:48.000 Inciting a riot is a specific action.
01:43:51.000 Right.
01:43:51.000 Right?
01:43:52.000 It's only known after if it happened.
01:43:53.000 Could Trump have been arrested for saying the election was stolen?
01:43:56.000 No.
01:43:57.000 Well, where's your standards, bro?
01:44:02.000 That if someone's actively admitting to manipulating the public.
01:44:07.000 So confessing to some kind of crime, like incitement to a riot.
01:44:11.000 Like if a guy says, my intention is to cause a riot.
01:44:13.000 No, my intention is to mislead the public.
01:44:16.000 That's protected speech.
01:44:18.000 That is protected.
01:44:19.000 And it causes a riot.
01:44:20.000 Not by your intent.
01:44:21.000 It's material to the First Amendment.
01:44:22.000 Yeah, but after the fact, you might get busted for starting a ride.
01:44:25.000 No, you will not.
01:44:26.000 Incitement is a specific crime.
01:44:29.000 You have to create an imminent threat and provide instruction.
01:44:32.000 Lying is protected.
01:44:34.000 If someone lies about you, there are certain criteria by which you can sue them in civil court, but they're not going to jail for lying.
01:44:43.000 In regards to this, I think that people, if they abuse the A B testing of videos, it should, at the very least, they should be blacklisted in their ability to use the A B testing.
01:44:52.000 If they can't show that they're using it for the right reasons, Because it could do a lot of damage, man.
01:44:57.000 Who decides to tweet?
01:44:58.000 The terms.
01:44:58.000 You've got to go by terms.
01:44:59.000 You ban anybody who lies on YouTube?
01:45:01.000 No.
01:45:02.000 So, then what makes this different?
01:45:06.000 That's the question of the night.
01:45:10.000 Well, the difference would be selectively lying to specific people.
01:45:13.000 That's a difference.
01:45:14.000 That's not correct.
01:45:16.000 Like, if you can send a specific lie to a certain number of people and then another lie to another person.
01:45:21.000 So, a guy with two channels, for instance.
01:45:26.000 Can you do it with advertising?
01:45:26.000 That's what I was talking about.
01:45:28.000 Can I make a commercial that tells you a lie?
01:45:30.000 Yeah, the population a lie.
01:45:31.000 They're everywhere.
01:45:31.000 Now, false advertising.
01:45:35.000 Is a civil violation.
01:45:37.000 It's an FTC violation.
01:45:38.000 It is illegal, but the penalty is typically civil.
01:45:41.000 Now, the funny thing is, your commercial can lie so long as it's not a material lie about your product.
01:45:45.000 So, if you said something like, I once watched Ian Crossland kick a dog, and you know what I thought?
01:45:51.000 That guy is a bad person, and I need a cup of coffee.
01:45:54.000 So, I bought Cass Brew coffee.
01:45:56.000 That's not false advertising.
01:45:58.000 I'm lying about you.
01:45:59.000 That's defamation.
01:46:00.000 And that's defamation per se, because kicking a dog is a crime.
01:46:02.000 You could sue me in civil court, but I ain't going to jail for it.
01:46:07.000 Welcome to one of the biggest problems we have, and there's no answer because arresting people for lying just means they're going to arrest anybody they don't want to tell the truth.
01:46:15.000 You're going to bring the Smith Mutt Act back?
01:46:17.000 You're going to bring that back?
01:46:19.000 No government propaganda.
01:46:20.000 It allowed the United States to air radio, like what was it, Radio Free Europe or whatever in the United States?
01:46:25.000 Yeah.
01:46:26.000 So the U.S. pays for American propaganda broadcasts internationally, and Obama got rid of this law so that those broadcasts could be played in the United States.
01:46:35.000 It's called the Smith Munt Modernization Act.
01:46:35.000 Oh, yeah.
01:46:39.000 Well, my, you know.
01:46:41.000 Tokyo Rose, come to America.
01:46:42.000 Just about me in a vacuum, let it all go, dude.
01:46:45.000 I'm too smart for this.
01:46:46.000 I do get manipulated, I'm sure, but I'm way above getting tricked by my own.
01:46:49.000 You're just arguing with yourself.
01:46:50.000 Ian's actually smarter than every person in Congress.
01:46:52.000 I care about these, not stupid.
01:46:54.000 I care about the commoner that doesn't think five steps ahead, that gets tricked by what they see and believe it at face value.
01:47:00.000 That can cause a lot of damage.
01:47:01.000 So I know the laws, but de facto, what can happen as a result of the technology being implemented, I'm very concerned about that, too.
01:47:08.000 Maybe it's not illegal.
01:47:10.000 It definitely could violate terms of service.
01:47:12.000 And let me ask you a question, Ian.
01:47:16.000 What do you want to happen globally in five years?
01:47:19.000 Like, if you could have, if you could snap your fingers and set Earth on a path for humanity, what would the world look like in five years?
01:47:27.000 We're going to have a giant freeway that you can drive from New York to New York all around the world through Russia, through China, through Japan.
01:47:34.000 In five years.
01:47:36.000 Yeah, we could get that at least started.
01:47:37.000 We could start that build.
01:47:38.000 You'll start the build.
01:47:38.000 We'll start the space elevator building on the moon.
01:47:40.000 We'll have a unified global.
01:47:42.000 Also, have a protection in the North Atlantic.
01:47:45.000 The Arctic will become a global park, like a global park.
01:47:49.000 We need to protect the Arctic.
01:47:51.000 The Russia, the Chinese, and the Americans need to work together to protect the Arctic.
01:47:54.000 So, why?
01:47:54.000 Okay, okay.
01:47:56.000 Because the preservation of species goes beyond how hungry you are.
01:47:59.000 I mean, we have to work together.
01:48:01.000 Why?
01:48:02.000 One world government.
01:48:03.000 Why?
01:48:03.000 I'm a human.
01:48:05.000 Why does the preservation of species matter?
01:48:08.000 I think the humans have shown that they're the best animal on the planet.
01:48:11.000 And I want it to be.
01:48:12.000 You're saying the preservation of human beings?
01:48:14.000 Yes.
01:48:15.000 So making a park in the North Pole or the Arctic?
01:48:15.000 Oh, okay.
01:48:18.000 Protect it like it's a national, a global treasure.
01:48:21.000 But that's not going to help humans.
01:48:22.000 What do you mean?
01:48:23.000 Well, it'll help us breathe, you know, keep the air clean.
01:48:26.000 There's no trees in the Arctic Circle.
01:48:27.000 I know, but it's just, there's a lot of good air up there.
01:48:29.000 It's a very clean environment that I want to protect.
01:48:33.000 Don't get lost on it.
01:48:34.000 It's just important.
01:48:35.000 There's no trees in the Arctic Circle.
01:48:36.000 They can't grow.
01:48:37.000 It's not trees.
01:48:37.000 It's an ocean.
01:48:38.000 But you want to protect it.
01:48:39.000 Oceans are related to the North Pole.
01:48:41.000 You know, you want to protect it.
01:48:42.000 Well, you say that.
01:48:42.000 Right.
01:48:42.000 Like we do with Antarctica, too.
01:48:43.000 Okay.
01:48:44.000 So breathing isn't, so we've concluded.
01:48:46.000 Breathing isn't a factor because.
01:48:47.000 And also, it's a central thing where we could go to war very easily with Russia and China.
01:48:51.000 So, if we're working together to protect it, it would be even more of an incentive not to fight.
01:48:56.000 So, we should not fight.
01:48:58.000 Humans should survive.
01:49:00.000 That's the principle cause you're talking about.
01:49:02.000 Like, we want to create this big road.
01:49:04.000 Humans should survive.
01:49:05.000 Yeah.
01:49:05.000 Why should humans survive?
01:49:07.000 Well, again, it's the best animal I can find to lead this thing.
01:49:12.000 This whole three dimensional experience.
01:49:12.000 Lead what thing?
01:49:14.000 But to what end?
01:49:17.000 To go into orbit, populate Mars, develop super consciousness to participate with extraterrestrial life forms and stuff.
01:49:23.000 And then what?
01:49:27.000 Think faster, build more.
01:49:29.000 Make more space for other people to live and thrive, pay it forward, give people what you had and make it better.
01:49:35.000 Why?
01:49:37.000 Why?
01:49:38.000 Uh huh.
01:49:39.000 At all?
01:49:40.000 Like, why do anything?
01:49:41.000 Well, I'm talking specifically about when you said make life better for the people, give them what you had.
01:49:45.000 Why?
01:49:47.000 What does that do?
01:49:51.000 I'm like coded to think that that's an end goal.
01:49:53.000 It makes it easier to be better.
01:49:56.000 You're less afraid when you're a kid because you have a safe environment to grow up in.
01:50:00.000 Yeah, no, but now we're circular.
01:50:03.000 Not to protect the planet.
01:50:04.000 Give someone an opportunity to live a good life so that there could be more humans, so they can give people to live a good life so there can be more humans.
01:50:04.000 I mean, it's.
01:50:10.000 Is there a reason to any of this?
01:50:11.000 Is there a goal you have in mind?
01:50:13.000 Is there a purpose?
01:50:14.000 Yeah, dude, terraforming Mars.
01:50:15.000 There's a lot of.
01:50:16.000 No, no, terraforming Mars just means humans live.
01:50:21.000 Yeah, and so do dogs and so do rivers.
01:50:23.000 And like, we want to.
01:50:24.000 Terraforming Mars is a great short term goal.
01:50:25.000 What's the end goal?
01:50:27.000 I don't think it ever ends.
01:50:29.000 So why do any of this this this way?
01:50:32.000 How important is it?
01:50:34.000 Is it absolute?
01:50:34.000 Must we do it?
01:50:37.000 No, we don't have to do any of it, but it could drastically improve the situation.
01:50:43.000 Now, what happens when you have 8 billion people and none of them agree with anything you've said?
01:50:52.000 I got to convince them.
01:50:53.000 Are you right?
01:50:54.000 No, nobody's convinced.
01:50:55.000 Well, you know you can't convince them, right?
01:50:58.000 Well, I know I can convince them.
01:50:59.000 No, You're not convincing 8 billion people, especially when you can't speak.
01:51:03.000 Oh, I don't think you can convince everybody.
01:51:04.000 Yeah, but if you convince enough people and you get a mass, like a critical consciousness of awareness.
01:51:08.000 You think people will resist you?
01:51:10.000 Yeah, cognitive dissonance.
01:51:12.000 That's a tension.
01:51:12.000 Cognitive dissonance.
01:51:13.000 How about just literal disagreement because you might be wrong?
01:51:15.000 Right.
01:51:15.000 Or they're like, no, I want my thing.
01:51:17.000 Exactly.
01:51:18.000 So, what I hear when you say all that stuff is, I want to impose my worldview on everyone else.
01:51:27.000 Maybe.
01:51:28.000 But I want people to have clean running water.
01:51:30.000 It's not a worldview.
01:51:31.000 Maybe it's a worldview.
01:51:32.000 What if some people don't want clean running water?
01:51:34.000 Then they're going to die.
01:51:35.000 No.
01:51:35.000 They'll have clean running water for themselves.
01:51:37.000 They don't want it for other people.
01:51:38.000 Oh, they don't want other people to have clean running water.
01:51:40.000 You know, that's not what we're.
01:51:40.000 Well, sorry.
01:51:41.000 I'm not playing with it.
01:51:42.000 Like, what if there's two tribes and, like, one tribe says the moon is God and the other tribe says the sun is God?
01:51:46.000 And they're like, we don't want that ideology spreading because it's wrong.
01:51:50.000 I would do what the colonists did.
01:51:51.000 Kill them?
01:51:52.000 I didn't say that.
01:51:54.000 What?
01:51:55.000 Like, occupy them and force them to do it.
01:51:56.000 I mean, if two tribes have two horrible ideas and you have this government authority that you could use against that or to fix it, you'd probably, like, supplant their authority.
01:52:04.000 Yeah.
01:52:05.000 Do you think, would you do that?
01:52:06.000 Yes.
01:52:07.000 Like the Chinese Communist Party does to their system.
01:52:08.000 Oh, like George Washington did to the natives.
01:52:10.000 Of course.
01:52:11.000 Like, any power would.
01:52:12.000 Like, cutting off guys' scouts and stuff.
01:52:14.000 Like, Guys with guns do to people with guys without guns.
01:52:16.000 Yeah, that have bad ideas, unfortunately, but yeah, that's the rate of the world.
01:52:20.000 So, how do you prove whose ideas are good?
01:52:23.000 There's no real proof.
01:52:24.000 It's just accepted morality.
01:52:26.000 So, let's.
01:52:27.000 Agreed.
01:52:27.000 So, what you're basically saying is you don't know that you're right.
01:52:31.000 You might be wrong, but if you have the guns, you're going to put it in their face.
01:52:34.000 Force them to take clean running water and their neighbors are going to get it.
01:52:37.000 No, no, no.
01:52:37.000 I said.
01:52:38.000 They have to do it through threat of force, just like they did desegregation.
01:52:40.000 I mean, whatever.
01:52:41.000 Yeah.
01:52:42.000 Sometimes you've got to use force to make people do the right thing.
01:52:44.000 What about people who believe that if they get a blood transfusion, they'll burn an attorney?
01:52:48.000 Burn for eternity.
01:52:48.000 They'll go to hell.
01:52:49.000 Can't help it.
01:52:50.000 You force them at gunpoint?
01:52:50.000 I don't know.
01:52:51.000 No.
01:52:52.000 They're dying.
01:52:52.000 No, it's bodily autonomy.
01:52:54.000 But I'm not going to keep good roads and good waterways out of their city.
01:52:58.000 What if there's a culture that believes your water is chemically treated and kills people and it's got nasty garbage in it and I want fresh spring water and you're going to put a gun in their mouth and say, you're taking the water I tell you to take?
01:53:11.000 Well, no, that's not what I'm doing.
01:53:13.000 If they have water, I'm not going to force them to take another water supply.
01:53:16.000 You know, if they have clean water, right?
01:53:18.000 Let's say they have a murky river and you come to them and say, we're going to clean this water for you.
01:53:23.000 And then they say, they want to put chemicals in our water.
01:53:26.000 Look at what it does to their people.
01:53:28.000 Their children want to be girls, get out of our land.
01:53:31.000 And you go, these people are backwards with wrong ideas.
01:53:34.000 I'm going to impose this on them.
01:53:36.000 If it's like a city like Akron, Ohio, let's say that's where I come from, the Cuyahoga River caught on fire in the 60s because they were dumping so much stuff.
01:53:42.000 If that community refused to clean their river, you better believe we're imposing force because that river flows well beyond their borders.
01:53:49.000 Those water tables go way outside their city.
01:53:52.000 If they're not allowing us to clean their system and they're poisoning their surroundings, yeah, I'm going to force them to clean.
01:53:57.000 So, Ohio, where you're at, are there Amish people around there?
01:54:00.000 Yeah.
01:54:01.000 Do you want to impose some of your stuff on the Amish?
01:54:03.000 Should the Amish have to use AI?
01:54:07.000 No.
01:54:08.000 Should they have to slide in their water?
01:54:11.000 Should they have to pasteurize their milk?
01:54:11.000 No.
01:54:14.000 No.
01:54:14.000 Should they have to do anything that you want because you think it's better and it would improve their life?
01:54:20.000 If they're poisoning the neighbors.
01:54:21.000 I want a yes or no answer.
01:54:23.000 Should the Amish have to do anything in their culture because you think it's better for them?
01:54:30.000 At this phase, no.
01:54:31.000 You can't answer the question yes or no, can you?
01:54:33.000 I just said no.
01:54:34.000 Okay.
01:54:34.000 So I don't know.
01:54:35.000 I could be wrong about this.
01:54:36.000 So let's take the Amish and say the Amish is the average YouTube viewer.
01:54:41.000 Why should you be able to decide what the Amish watch on YouTube?
01:54:46.000 What should be the terms of service should dictate that?
01:54:48.000 I think it's their choice if they want to watch YouTube at all, or pick up a paper, or pick up the Enquirer, or pick up the Gateway Pundit, whatever.
01:54:55.000 Whether or not it's on YouTube is only a result of the terms of service of you.
01:54:59.000 Free speech is a slippery slope, and everything you said, you want to subvert free speech to make yourself comfortable.
01:55:06.000 But what about giving people.
01:55:07.000 Forcing people to clean their water supplies has anything to do with free speech.
01:55:10.000 I don't care about that.
01:55:11.000 What are you implying about free speech?
01:55:13.000 I think some of the avenues that you were talking about, free speech, make you comfortable.
01:55:18.000 Which one?
01:55:20.000 A lot of it.
01:55:21.000 Where there's supposed to be terms of service.
01:55:23.000 There should be a disclaimer.
01:55:24.000 People could mislead you with a video.
01:55:27.000 They should be demonetized if that video is not comfortable.
01:55:32.000 None of that has anything to do with the First Amendment.
01:55:35.000 Free speech doesn't have anything.
01:55:36.000 That's not free speech.
01:55:37.000 You're talking about corporate terms of service on a private system.
01:55:40.000 The government.
01:55:42.000 Getting involved in private businesses, bad idea.
01:55:47.000 No, that's not true at all.
01:55:48.000 If the government doesn't regulate, it's more regulation.
01:55:51.000 It depends on the situation, but if you let corporations run unfettered, they become governments of their own.
01:55:55.000 Look at the East India Trading Company.
01:55:57.000 The point of the questions are that there are two fundamental poles.
01:56:04.000 We don't know what's right, and so we're going to leave other people be so long as they're not a threat to our way of life.
01:56:10.000 And then when you butt on borders, war happens.
01:56:12.000 The other thought process is the Davos Group, Communist, Chinese Communist Party view of it doesn't matter what these people think.
01:56:20.000 They're wrong about almost everything and their IQs are too low to comprehend what's going on.
01:56:24.000 So they're drinking feces out of their river and they're taking dumps in the street.
01:56:29.000 Why should I care the way they want to live when they're literally drinking their own feces?
01:56:33.000 I went to South America and I hung out with those people in Beilin, in Iquitos, in Northeast Peru.
01:56:38.000 And yes, there's a community of people that lived, they shit in the water, they drank the water.
01:56:42.000 The kids had distended stomachs.
01:56:43.000 The government had completely given up on them.
01:56:46.000 And they didn't know.
01:56:47.000 They didn't understand what sanitation was.
01:56:48.000 So when we told them, they rioted and threw trash on the mayor's lawn because they realized what the government had been doing.
01:56:54.000 And then the government turned eyeballs on us and we got out of the country.
01:56:57.000 Exactly.
01:56:58.000 And now, with the power, should we go in there and stop them from drinking feces?
01:57:02.000 Well, we helped them learn about it and they chose to stop.
01:57:05.000 That's what I did while I was there.
01:57:07.000 Should we take guns?
01:57:08.000 No, you don't need to.
01:57:10.000 If you can take people off sanitation, you don't need to force them.
01:57:12.000 I don't know what your aversion is to the simple question I asked you, it's a simple question.
01:57:17.000 You could say no.
01:57:18.000 If you're dumping sewage into a river and you refuse to stop, we have to send in the guns.
01:57:23.000 So the answer is yes.
01:57:24.000 Depends on the situation.
01:57:25.000 The guys in Berlin didn't need weapons, they wanted to change, they just didn't know it was available.
01:57:29.000 Should we use violence to stop people from drinking feces?
01:57:32.000 Yes or no?
01:57:33.000 But stop them from poisoning water supplies with feces?
01:57:33.000 No.
01:57:36.000 Yes.
01:57:38.000 What?
01:57:39.000 So, okay.
01:57:40.000 I don't care if you poop in a cup and drink it.
01:57:41.000 I don't care, man.
01:57:42.000 That's not what we're talking about.
01:57:43.000 We're talking about people dumping in the river and drinking it.
01:57:45.000 Should we stop them?
01:57:45.000 Well, the river flows downstream.
01:57:46.000 Yeah, you got to protect the rivers.
01:57:47.000 Okay.
01:57:49.000 So you have a more authoritarian worldview on these other cultures.
01:57:53.000 More than what?
01:57:55.000 More than what?
01:57:56.000 You said I have a more authoritarian worldview.
01:57:58.000 Yes, you lean into the authoritarian spectrum.
01:58:00.000 Sometimes.
01:58:01.000 Yes.
01:58:02.000 And so the United States agrees with you in every capacity, and that's why we're at war with Iran.
01:58:08.000 Agreed.
01:58:12.000 You have to stop these people from blowing up cargo ships.
01:58:15.000 They're giving missiles and rocket launchers.
01:58:17.000 That's what they say.
01:58:18.000 It's not a moralistic sanitation reason.
01:58:20.000 We're over there to conquer the country.
01:58:22.000 I said, you've got to stop blowing up cargo ships.
01:58:24.000 That's not the reason we're there.
01:58:25.000 The Houthi rebels were blowing up ships in the Red Sea for two years.
01:58:27.000 They were blowing up ships that we had commandeered that were like Iranian ships, U.S. cargo ships.
01:58:33.000 And Russian and Chinese and South African were moving through the Red Sea through the Suez Canal.
01:58:39.000 And the Houthis were launching rockets at them.
01:58:41.000 You know what the U.S. ship is doing?
01:58:42.000 This is what the.
01:58:43.000 You're talking about something specific.
01:58:44.000 I'm not.
01:58:45.000 I'm talking about decades of Iran funding Houthi rebels as well as other militia groups that were attacking civilians.
01:58:52.000 The U.S. said stop funding them.
01:58:54.000 Iran said no.
01:58:55.000 And this is one of the principal issues the U.S. has had with Iran for decades.
01:59:00.000 Now, if you want to get hyper specific on this year, go ahead and do so.
01:59:04.000 I'm talking about a ship from.
01:59:07.000 From Australia, full of rubber duckies trying to make its way to the Mediterranean to sell those rubber duckies, got blown up.
01:59:15.000 And then the U.S. has a promise to all these countries we will stop them from blowing you up if you're on the petrodollar.
01:59:22.000 Now, you can disagree with that all you want.
01:59:24.000 But if the argument is there are people that are blowing up civilians and we have to stop them, that's what the U.S. is doing.
01:59:34.000 I think about that sometimes if we got to grab Rumble Rants and Super Chats, but put a pin in it.
01:59:38.000 We're going to talk about it in the unsensible fashion.
01:59:40.000 And we'll see what you guys have to say.
01:59:43.000 And I'm sure there's many, many an opinion.
01:59:47.000 All right.
01:59:48.000 I can't read your username because we got raided and it's blocking your username.
01:59:53.000 How do you know Trump is not doing anything in the USA?
01:59:56.000 What if he is trying, but judges, senators, and others are blocking him?
01:59:59.000 That's the only way I can explain things.
02:00:01.000 I'll say it like this As somebody who lives in the DC area, has a reporter who goes to the White House, and personally knows many people in the administration, I can tell you definitively and explicitly there is frustration among people.
02:00:13.000 In lower staffing positions, that they have solutions to problems, and then Trump says, Yeah, we want it done, and then nobody does anything.
02:00:23.000 And that these things can be done, but Trump isn't prioritizing them.
02:00:27.000 Trump could make a phone call and he could make these things happen, and he does not do it.
02:00:32.000 So there are a lot of people that, let's just say they're like people in their early 30s that we've known.
02:00:37.000 Some people have even been on this show that you know and have seen who are like, Yeah, we have the answer to these, but for some reason, like Trump's not telling them to do it.
02:00:46.000 Just not doing it.
02:00:47.000 It's like, okay, you know, there you go.
02:00:50.000 Cup of Soothe says I'm a submariner myself.
02:00:53.000 SSN 708, we serve in darkness but see more than most.
02:00:57.000 Bubbleheads.
02:00:58.000 Love it.
02:01:00.000 Mytho says, Was that a Crimson Tide reference when you said to close your watertight hatch?
02:01:06.000 Watertight doors.
02:01:07.000 Every submarine has those.
02:01:07.000 Absolutely.
02:01:10.000 I went to, I can't remember what city I was in.
02:01:11.000 It was maybe in like Massachusetts or something.
02:01:13.000 We got to go in the submarine.
02:01:13.000 I don't know if you, I don't know how many they have.
02:01:16.000 There's a little museum there.
02:01:16.000 Connecticut.
02:01:17.000 Yeah.
02:01:18.000 USS Nautilus, first nuclear sub.
02:01:20.000 That must have been it.
02:01:21.000 And you go in one, then you walk through and you come out.
02:01:23.000 That's crazy.
02:01:24.000 That's.
02:01:24.000 Sleeping in there.
02:01:25.000 Y'all are crazy.
02:01:27.000 A little claustrophobic.
02:01:28.000 Yeah, I'm kidding.
02:01:29.000 I mean, the older submarines like that, you just get used to walking like narrow and you rub your junk on other people's junk when you're passing in the passageway.
02:01:43.000 I mean, when I first joined, we had hot racking.
02:01:46.000 And I don't know.
02:01:47.000 I know people that are watching that are submarine guys know what that is.
02:01:50.000 That's where you have three people, you have two bunks, one person's always on watch.
02:01:56.000 One per two people are in the racks, and whenever the watch rotates, sometimes you climb in the rack and it's still warm, so that's called haha.
02:02:04.000 And when you're up north, you got to flip the pillow, you love the Antarctic, it's really nice getting into a warm bed.
02:02:10.000 I mean, it's really nice.
02:02:12.000 I, you know, all right.
02:02:14.000 DCH says somewhere right now, Brian is yelling at Phil on his phone, Women are strong leaders, you Trump knee pad.
02:02:20.000 Is that the Shapiro guy?
02:02:21.000 Yeah, yeah, the mushroom gobbler comment.
02:02:24.000 Look, some women, there are definitely plenty of women out there that can, but the The point that I'm making is that there are definitely a significant portion of women that cannot.
02:02:34.000 All right.
02:02:35.000 Well, YouTube's not loading properly.
02:02:36.000 I can't do anything about it.
02:02:37.000 I'm sorry, guys.
02:02:38.000 Like, it does this from time to time.
02:02:39.000 It just doesn't show the super chats.
02:02:41.000 We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
02:02:43.000 So, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.
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02:02:56.000 I help vets in Arkansas.
02:02:58.000 We're just about to open up one of the first, I think maybe the first.
02:03:02.000 Subsidized housing facility for veterans.
02:03:05.000 It's right across the street from the VA.
02:03:06.000 It's federally funded, so your tax dollars are helping some vets.
02:03:10.000 They can live there as long as they want.
02:03:13.000 And it feels good to do something for some vets whenever we've seen so much maybe delayed progress in that avenue.
02:03:25.000 Yeah, we did a green show earlier about it that's on timcast.com.
02:03:28.000 Not yet, but it will be.
02:03:29.000 When is that going to happen?
02:03:30.000 It actually is, yeah, Rumble.
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02:04:01.000 Carter.
02:04:02.000 Man, it's been a pleasure having you, dude.
02:04:04.000 Yeah, Ian took my shout out for the Green Show.
02:04:07.000 We talked about so much stuff, and.
02:04:09.000 Yeah, this is a really fun conversation.
02:04:11.000 So, thank you again for this, by the way.
02:04:14.000 Yeah, no problem.
02:04:15.000 I brought everybody a challenge coin.
02:04:16.000 Yeah.
02:04:16.000 Absolutely.
02:04:17.000 But anyway, I'm Carter Banks.
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02:04:25.000 We'll see y'all over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL right now.
02:04:30.000 Don't miss it.
02:04:30.000 We'll see you there.
02:06:43.000 There's always like that weird delay.
02:06:44.000 We got to fix whatever this is.
02:06:45.000 Yeah, I tried once and it literally just would not let me.
02:06:48.000 But I'm like, we don't got to do anything because we're moving to a new studio.
02:06:51.000 Oh, that's true.
02:06:52.000 So, yeah, YouTube's dead, guys.
02:06:54.000 I'm going to sneeze.
02:06:57.000 Blessings.
02:06:58.000 Sneezing over YouTube's dead.
02:07:00.000 They killed it.
02:07:01.000 They did it to themselves.
02:07:02.000 They've continually done it to themselves.
02:07:03.000 I'll let you guys in on a secret.
02:07:05.000 YouTube's pissed because they're losing all their big shows to various other networks.
02:07:10.000 They're pissed at us.
02:07:12.000 When we signed the Rumble deal, I got to.
02:07:14.000 Text from someone at YouTube saying, Congratulations on your new deal.
02:07:17.000 And I was like, Oh, they're fucking livid.
02:07:19.000 But you know what?
02:07:19.000 Fuck them.
02:07:20.000 They took down our episodes.
02:07:22.000 They wouldn't tell us what to do.
02:07:23.000 They were treating us like shit.
02:07:25.000 And so the reason why we did the deal with Rumble is because Rumble takes care of its creators.
02:07:30.000 Rumble has.
02:07:32.000 Rumble, look, I'm not going to pretend like Rumble's a bunch of just like everyone's a good dude and they're all like, We're going to be.
02:07:37.000 No, Rumble's like, We found a real market opportunity.
02:07:39.000 Providing a place with infrastructure that people can fucking speak.
02:07:43.000 And YouTube, if YouTube would just be like, Tim, This will get your episode taken down.
02:07:50.000 I'd be like, okay.
02:07:51.000 Like, we always try to follow the rules.
02:07:53.000 Instead, they'd be like, I don't know.
02:07:55.000 They're so vague.
02:07:56.000 It's so freaking vague.
02:07:56.000 I don't know.
02:07:59.000 It just, you don't know.
02:08:01.000 If YouTube went to us and said, here are the things that cross the line, what did we do?
02:08:07.000 We'd say, go to timcast.com to watch the stuff that YouTube says they don't want on their show.
02:08:13.000 That's it.
02:08:14.000 Instead, YouTube would just be like, we're not going to tell you.
02:08:16.000 I think it's because of tone.
02:08:17.000 They can't measure it.
02:08:18.000 Because if I was like, don't kill anyone, I'd be like, okay, that's fine on YouTube.
02:08:22.000 But if I was like, don't, Kill anyone.
02:08:25.000 YouTube might pick that up as like, oh, he's telling people to kill anyone.
02:08:28.000 And then I'm like, no, I said don't.
02:08:29.000 That's what the robots do.
02:08:31.000 And they can't measure the robots.
02:08:32.000 So what happened was a year ago, they changed their algorithm.
02:08:34.000 They reduced the amount of long form videos you'll see on the front page and increased the amount of shorts.
02:08:40.000 People don't subscribe for shorts.
02:08:42.000 So this attitude that YouTube has where it's like, let's get people to watch shorts to compete with TikTok doesn't work because subscriptions don't fucking matter.
02:08:51.000 So they're turning their platform into TikTok where no one's going to advertise.
02:08:55.000 It's fucking retarded.
02:08:57.000 Turning the platform to TikTok seems like such a terrible idea because people go to YouTube for longer form stuff.
02:09:03.000 They don't go there because they want to see shorts.
02:09:06.000 And what YouTube should have done has been like, hey, I got an idea.
02:09:10.000 Tim Cass has been live Monday through Friday, 8 p.m. for six years.
02:09:15.000 We have been doing this.
02:09:16.000 They should be like, we got a flagship show.
02:09:19.000 We're always the biggest live stream.
02:09:21.000 We're getting beat by that peanut guy.
02:09:23.000 That's okay, though.
02:09:24.000 He's not a news show.
02:09:25.000 In terms of primetime news, we're the biggest.
02:09:27.000 And I've always been the biggest.
02:09:28.000 And even though our concurrent viewership is down, it's really weird.
02:09:31.000 So, in the split break, we were talking about this.
02:09:35.000 Our audience retention and views are the same as they were before the change, but our concurrence are lower, which doesn't make any sense.
02:09:43.000 It's like when they did the algorithm change, they didn't update it to track concurrence properly or something.
02:09:49.000 Because we're getting 250K per episode.
02:09:52.000 And with viewer duration, it's the same as it's always been, but our concurrence are lower.
02:09:58.000 I honestly think they're burning themselves to the ground on purpose.
02:10:00.000 Or they're like feeding it to more people.
02:10:02.000 That's what you were saying, Carter.
02:10:03.000 Yeah, I was just thinking maybe like more people are seeing it and staying for a little bit and just pushing us into the.
02:10:07.000 No, no, no.
02:10:08.000 That's normal because viewer duration doesn't change.
02:10:11.000 If you.
02:10:12.000 So we had 150,000 views at a 10 minute average duration.
02:10:16.000 That's the same as it was before the algorithm changed.
02:10:18.000 It's the same.
02:10:20.000 This means it doesn't matter if they changed how they track a view.
02:10:23.000 One person on average watches 10 minutes of the show.
02:10:25.000 That's how it's always been.
02:10:27.000 That's it.
02:10:27.000 It's normal.
02:10:28.000 Like half the people are watching for 20 minutes now?
02:10:30.000 Is that some weird number?
02:10:31.000 So you get like.
02:10:33.000 You know what it might be?
02:10:34.000 The concurrent viewers are the people who are only watching the full show.
02:10:38.000 I mean, I had a couple of videos demonetized or whatever.
02:10:41.000 I literally took the script, the transcript, ran it through Gemini, which is the YouTube, whatever, and said, What got this demonetized?
02:10:51.000 And it came back, I don't know.
02:10:53.000 And then I grabbed the terms of service and I was like, What using this terms of service did I do or didn't do?
02:10:59.000 And it gave me some vague, it's just vague.
02:11:06.000 There's no guardrails.
02:11:07.000 It's like going to the casino and Tim, you're a poker player.
02:11:11.000 Every now and then they're like, Hey, you win.
02:11:12.000 You're like, How'd I win?
02:11:14.000 Oh, it doesn't matter.
02:11:14.000 You win.
02:11:15.000 Oh, you lost the spot.
02:11:16.000 I don't know what that is.
02:11:18.000 Yeah.
02:11:19.000 I mean, it's just, I want some rules.
02:11:21.000 I want some guidelines.
02:11:22.000 I want something, some rails to stay in.
02:11:25.000 And they just, they don't do that.
02:11:27.000 I've always.
02:11:27.000 They don't provide it.
02:11:28.000 I'm just going to throw this out there just as an antagonism to any poker player.
02:11:31.000 All poker players suck ass, and I'm one of the best poker players in the world.
02:11:35.000 And I'm saying that because I set them up for that.
02:11:38.000 I'm tracking $145 an hour for the past four months, and not a single person in poker believes it.
02:11:44.000 And I've got my poker tracking app, and I'm like, okay.
02:11:47.000 If it really is that unbelievable and I have my app tracking it, I must be just one of the best poker players in the world.
02:11:51.000 Thank you and have a nice day.
02:11:53.000 Even I interviewed Garrett Adelstein.
02:11:54.000 He's like, Yeah, $100 an hour is not sustainable in the long term.
02:11:57.000 And I'm like, Sure.
02:11:58.000 Well, I bought in for $350 last weekend, cashed out for $970.
02:12:05.000 That's tripled your money.
02:12:06.000 And that was in an hour.
02:12:08.000 That's good.
02:12:09.000 In an hour.
02:12:10.000 And I'm like, Guys, whatever.
02:12:12.000 I'm not doing whatever this is with these poker.
02:12:15.000 Every single pro I talked to is like, Nobody's $100.
02:12:17.000 And I'm like, Oh, well, I do.
02:12:17.000 Go fuck your shit.
02:12:18.000 I think tracking it by.
02:12:19.000 Is it Vegas or different?
02:12:20.000 Casino, I mean, is it certain mostly it's Hollywood Charlestown, which I'll just say right off the bat must be the softest game in town.
02:12:27.000 And is it just Texas Hold'em or what?
02:12:29.000 I mean, is it a different game?
02:12:30.000 I do have one PLO game, I bought it for a thousand cashed out 1150 within half an hour.
02:12:35.000 PLO is free money, my god, right?
02:12:37.000 I think it's all free money.
02:12:38.000 Gauging it by a dollar an hour is misleading in poker because if I come in with $10,000 and I walk out with $10,000 plus 100, I made 1%.
02:12:48.000 If I go in there with a hundred dollars and I come out with 200, I've come out with a hundred percent.
02:12:52.000 Yes, but this is why we're talking about low stakes.
02:12:54.000 But there's a difference between you going with 100 or 500?
02:12:56.000 I'm tracking $151.95 per hour over the last three and a half months.
02:13:02.000 Does it average how much you go in with on average?
02:13:04.000 400.
02:13:05.000 Okay.
02:13:06.000 And this is what my mind is fucking blown.
02:13:08.000 People are like, that's not possible.
02:13:09.000 And I'm like, dude, you buy in for 400.
02:13:11.000 The opening bet for any hand is 15 to 20 bucks.
02:13:14.000 You get three callers, there's 60 bucks in the pot.
02:13:16.000 They take $6 out, there's $54.
02:13:19.000 You win two of those in one hour, you've made $100.
02:13:22.000 And these people are like, that's impossible.
02:13:24.000 And I'm like, you can't win two hands in one hour?
02:13:26.000 Are they saying that?
02:13:27.000 25% gain in an hour is not feasibly sustainable.
02:13:30.000 Is that what you're saying?
02:13:31.000 I don't fucking get it.
02:13:32.000 You know, you know, it's not believe you because you're you.
02:13:35.000 I mean, I cashed MGM's tournament in August for $6,000 so they can go fuck themselves.
02:13:40.000 They just, you know, the reality is this.
02:13:43.000 Like, now that we're not, now we've totally deviated from talking about poker, but I'm going for it because I love it.
02:13:48.000 I was skating at Freedom Plaza in D.C. I'm an insanely good skateboarder.
02:13:53.000 I mean, I'm 40, it is what it is, so it's not like I'm skating like when I was 19.
02:13:56.000 They went on these forums and lied and claimed I couldn't skate.
02:14:00.000 It's just make it up.
02:14:02.000 It's because it's me.
02:14:03.000 Tim Poole cannot be good.
02:14:05.000 And you know, I just said to these people, like, I don't know, maybe the multimillionaire with a bunch of billboard charting songs, you know, who owns one of the biggest podcasts in the world, he might just be smarter than you.
02:14:18.000 But every time I talk to a poker pro, like, it's not possible.
02:14:20.000 It's like, I got it right here.
02:14:21.000 And I was talking to this guy.
02:14:22.000 I know he's this liberal old guy who plays at the casino, and he's a good dude, but many hates Trump.
02:14:27.000 He was like, Ain't no fucking way you do 100 bucks an hour.
02:14:30.000 And I was like, bro, Here's my poker history.
02:14:34.000 I track every session to the hour.
02:14:37.000 I play for about an hour or two Friday and Saturday night.
02:14:39.000 Typically, it's a bunch of just, you know, it's drunk old guys that are showing up.
02:14:42.000 They don't know what they're doing, and it's printing money.
02:14:45.000 And he's like, Bullshit, I saw you play and you lost money.
02:14:48.000 And I'm like, That's in this.
02:14:50.000 I was like, I sent him a screenshot of my history, and it's like, It shows I lost $338 in one session.
02:14:55.000 I made a bad call.
02:14:56.000 The guy called me down with a gut shot, and I thought my two pair was good.
02:15:00.000 And I'm like, In what reality is this guy, Donk, like, is, I bet he, so he was a little short.
02:15:07.000 I bet he raised all in slightly more than 2X.
02:15:10.000 And I'm like, I got two pairs here.
02:15:12.000 The only way, there's only one hand that's going to beat me.
02:15:15.000 I mean, he could have a set, but probably unlikely.
02:15:16.000 And then he fucking called a hundred dollar bet with a gut shot.
02:15:19.000 I did not see it coming.
02:15:20.000 And sometimes that happens.
02:15:22.000 But for the most part, I'm printing money.
02:15:24.000 I'm not playing to be rich, and I can't live off this.
02:15:27.000 I have made $5,660 in four months.
02:15:30.000 I ain't living off it, but for my sessions.
02:15:33.000 And so all these pros, they grind my gears because they're all like.
02:15:37.000 Is there a certain pro that is more like.
02:15:42.000 After you than others, or I mean, is there like the one guy you know what I mean?
02:15:46.000 Like the people who hate me don't watch the show and don't know what I look like, and then the people who do watch the show, they love me, they're fans.
02:15:52.000 I want to do this math for 5,600 in four months.
02:15:56.000 What's how much did you go in with in those four months?
02:15:59.000 I thought you said 400, right?
02:16:00.000 400 is the standard buy in.
02:16:02.000 Did you ever go in with like 10,000 just for fun?
02:16:05.000 Or no, I don't do that.
02:16:06.000 Okay, the biggest game I played was last weekend, it was two five.
02:16:09.000 I bought him for a thousand and then I cashed out for 1900.
02:16:13.000 And uh, this dude, South, is there, he's a good dude, he's a big fun, that's a guy.
02:16:16.000 He was like, dude, this hand was so fucking insane.
02:16:20.000 It's the weirdest shit.
02:16:21.000 I'm going to explain to you guys how I make $100 an hour.
02:16:23.000 I sit down at 2.5.
02:16:24.000 I don't care.
02:16:25.000 Guys, if you don't understand poker jargon, I'll work it through.
02:16:29.000 This is a crazy story.
02:16:31.000 So I'm at the casino and I'm bored and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's play 2.5.
02:16:34.000 2.5 is $1,000 bind.
02:16:36.000 It means the small blind is $2.
02:16:38.000 The big blind is $5.
02:16:38.000 It's your minimum bet.
02:16:40.000 First hand I get is in the plus one position, meaning I'm second to act and I have ace queen offsuit.
02:16:46.000 Under the gun bets, I think he bet 20 bucks.
02:16:51.000 I have ace queen.
02:16:52.000 I raise to $55.
02:16:55.000 Two and a half times, whatever.
02:16:56.000 Two and a half.
02:16:57.000 Well, it's two and a quarter.
02:16:58.000 Okay, gotcha.
02:16:59.000 So I raise to $55.
02:17:01.000 Dude to my left, cold calls.
02:17:03.000 Cold call means he had no commitment to the pot and just called my bet.
02:17:09.000 Not very good thing to do.
02:17:10.000 It means his hand is not going to be better than mine.
02:17:13.000 Folds around, just the three of us.
02:17:14.000 The flop comes, jack of spades, seven of clubs, five of clubs.
02:17:18.000 I have nothing.
02:17:20.000 The guy to my right, he checks.
02:17:23.000 I think about it.
02:17:25.000 We've got 55, 55, 55, 115.
02:17:28.000 So I do a continuation bet for, actually, it's a little bit more than that.
02:17:31.000 It was because of some other dead money.
02:17:35.000 I think you had the blinds in there, so it was seven.
02:17:37.000 So I just did about a pot size better, like 120.
02:17:40.000 And I'm like, it's fairly aggressive, but I'm like, this dude's calling with worse.
02:17:46.000 The dude to my right, I had a read on him, but I said, I'm going to miss the flop.
02:17:51.000 I'm going to play aggressive.
02:17:52.000 I'm going to pull a C bet here, even though it's a fairly wet board.
02:17:55.000 With the five and the seven, I doubt someone's.
02:17:58.000 He's not raising with 6'8.
02:18:01.000 I mean, you know, he could have a club draw, in which case, my ace queen could be better than his club draw if he's only calling and this guy's cold calling.
02:18:09.000 I think ace queen's probably the best hand here.
02:18:11.000 So I'm going to make a bet and see what happens.
02:18:14.000 Dude to my left calls, instantly know he's got me.
02:18:17.000 I know who this guy is.
02:18:18.000 I know he's got me.
02:18:19.000 I said, he's got ace jack.
02:18:20.000 He's not going to raise with it.
02:18:22.000 He shouldn't cold call with it, but he's going to.
02:18:24.000 He's got ace jack.
02:18:25.000 Dude to my right thinks about it and then he calls.
02:18:28.000 Now I'm like, I think dudes got Ace Jack.
02:18:31.000 The turn comes Ace of Hearts.
02:18:34.000 Or I'm sorry, it was Ace of Diamonds.
02:18:35.000 I have the Ace of Hearts.
02:18:36.000 So I'm pretty damn happy.
02:18:38.000 I'm like, okay, I hope this motherfucker's got Queen Jack suited or King Jack, no two pairs, but he's also short stacked.
02:18:46.000 Meaning, if I can get the guy to my right to stay in, I'm going to make money off him.
02:18:50.000 The guy to my left, I think he's got Ace Jack.
02:18:53.000 I feel like he's got Ace Jack.
02:18:55.000 But if he has King Jack or Queen Jack or Jack 10, and he's playing one of these weaker hands, that ace just saved my ass.
02:19:01.000 And he's only got like 200 bucks behind, and I've got 800.
02:19:06.000 You know, I've got, you know, 1,000.
02:19:08.000 So I put him all in.
02:19:09.000 I put him for 350.
02:19:10.000 He snap calls for like, Two, two, seven, or something.
02:19:14.000 The guy to my right, as soon as he snap calls, I'm like, fuckers got two pair.
02:19:18.000 Damn it.
02:19:19.000 Well, I'm going to break even.
02:19:20.000 The dude to my right thinks about it and then he puts in the call.
02:19:25.000 And I'm like, shit.
02:19:27.000 Am I getting cooked on this one?
02:19:27.000 Fuck.
02:19:29.000 I got about 600 behind now.
02:19:31.000 And the river is a seven, a seven of diamonds, I think.
02:19:36.000 So full houses, sets.
02:19:37.000 They've all made it, but I got ace.
02:19:39.000 You know, what the fuck am I going to do?
02:19:40.000 Funniest shit happens.
02:19:41.000 The dude, He's got about like $240 left.
02:19:45.000 There's $1,500 in the pot.
02:19:48.000 And he grabs a stack of greens, $25 chips, and starts slowly counting them out.
02:19:53.000 And I'm just, guys, I'm too good at poker for this.
02:19:55.000 Okay.
02:19:56.000 I say, buddy, you're not making any bet that's not putting all those chips in because you put anything and I'm jamming or calling.
02:20:02.000 And he goes, oh, yeah.
02:20:04.000 And I was like, yeah.
02:20:05.000 And I was like, you're short stacked and there's $1,500 in the pot.
02:20:08.000 You're not betting $150 to get me off.
02:20:10.000 And he goes, well, I don't think so.
02:20:12.000 And I say, oh, okay.
02:20:13.000 Out of dealer, out of turn, all in.
02:20:15.000 And I slam my chips in.
02:20:17.000 And he goes, he can't do that.
02:20:19.000 And everyone was like, yes, he can.
02:20:21.000 And the dealer's like, he can.
02:20:22.000 He goes, but it's my turn to act.
02:20:24.000 And they said, an out of turn action stands unless the action changes.
02:20:28.000 And he goes, well, he slides all of his chips in and he goes, I got a seven.
02:20:34.000 I go, okay, you got a seven, you win.
02:20:36.000 I got ace queen.
02:20:37.000 I table my hand.
02:20:38.000 And he goes, or not.
02:20:40.000 And he shows eight high for eight six.
02:20:44.000 And I made money.
02:20:45.000 I lost a guy to my left who sure enough had ace jack offsuit.
02:20:48.000 Would you split that?
02:20:49.000 Yeah.
02:20:49.000 Was no, he won the main puck.
02:20:50.000 Oh, gotcha.
02:20:51.000 What the fuck was he doing calling a three bet with ace Jack?
02:20:55.000 I did not part of it.
02:20:56.000 I kind of knew it.
02:20:57.000 I didn't want to believe it because I'm like, these guys are too good to do something dumb like that.
02:21:02.000 And I'm just hoping he's got like Queen Jack suited.
02:21:04.000 And he was like, you know, I want to see this hand.
02:21:07.000 No, he had, but I ended up winning the guy to my rights, everything.
02:21:09.000 And everyone's table is just shitting a brick.
02:21:11.000 They're like, what the fuck just happened?
02:21:13.000 He goes, Can I get the floor?
02:21:14.000 I want a ruling on this.
02:21:16.000 The floor comes over and they're like, and they have to explain it to him.
02:21:18.000 And he was like, It was my turn to act, and he told me that he was going to call.
02:21:23.000 So he put all his chips in and called all in, and they're like, and?
02:21:27.000 And he goes, but it was my turn to act.
02:21:28.000 And they're like, yeah, it's called an out of turn action.
02:21:30.000 It's like, you're not supposed to do it, but if he does it, the action stands.
02:21:33.000 And he's like, well, that's weird, I guess.
02:21:37.000 And then one guy goes, if you thought he could not call you, why did you show eight high?
02:21:44.000 What did you think was literally what hands can you beat?
02:21:48.000 If I had Queen, King, and Miff just had nothing, I beat your eight high.
02:21:53.000 And when you show me the eight, I win.
02:21:55.000 And so South goes, Is that how you make $100 an hour?
02:21:58.000 And I went, Yes, literally, yes.
02:22:01.000 People push hundreds of dollars into the pot with eight high when I have top pair.
02:22:06.000 I'm like, Literally, yes.
02:22:06.000 Yes.
02:22:08.000 Literally, yes.
02:22:08.000 I'm going to borrow that.
02:22:09.000 Literally, yes.
02:22:11.000 But try to explain this to people.
02:22:13.000 It is mind blowing to me when I was talking to Daniel Negrano and he was saying, Look, man, nobody does $100 an hour playing poker.
02:22:22.000 I was like, Well, you know, look, I do.
02:22:24.000 Uh, and I got it.
02:22:24.000 I got my poker tracker, it shows it.
02:22:27.000 I think my total up for the year is like $18,000.
02:22:30.000 I wasn't using the hard tracker, I just had a wad of cash.
02:22:33.000 And then in July, I started actually tracking with a poker app.
02:22:37.000 And he was like, Yeah, but like, I mean, like over a thousand hours, there's no way it's happening.
02:22:41.000 And I was like, Well, I don't think I even have a thousand hours.
02:22:43.000 I think I have like 30.
02:22:44.000 And he, Oh, well, 30 hours.
02:22:46.000 I mean, so you're on a heater.
02:22:48.000 And I was like, No, I'm playing poker against drunk guys on Friday night.
02:22:52.000 And he was like, Oh, well, I mean, if you're telling people that you're playing poker against like blind people, then sure.
02:22:59.000 And I said, When did I ever say?
02:23:01.000 It's mind blowing to me because I come out and I'm like, I like playing against.
02:23:05.000 Here's what I said.
02:23:06.000 I play mini golf against fat old men on Friday nights who are drunk, and I win all the time.
02:23:12.000 And they go, You think you can win the Masters?
02:23:16.000 No, I just think that when you play a local game with a bunch of old drunk guys, you're going to win if you're good.
02:23:23.000 Yeah.
02:23:24.000 So, last story, just because I know everyone watching is probably going, Oh my God.
02:23:27.000 I'm jerking it right now.
02:23:28.000 It's hot.
02:23:31.000 So, here's how I ended up crushing it.
02:23:33.000 I made so much fucking money this past weekend.
02:23:35.000 I think I did like two grand in that same game.
02:23:38.000 I raised with pocket sevens, and this is just sheer dumb luck.
02:23:41.000 Dude to my left, same guy calls.
02:23:44.000 South rips it.
02:23:47.000 And then I take my chips, I slam them in.
02:23:50.000 I'm like, let's fucking go.
02:23:52.000 Cause I'm thinking, like, I don't know, maybe sevens.
02:23:55.000 I got, I got 20, I got 13, whatever.
02:23:58.000 I was like, we're going balls deep on this one.
02:24:01.000 I think the dude to my left's gonna fold.
02:24:03.000 I think South's probably got like ace king, ace queen.
02:24:08.000 Maybe he's got a pair.
02:24:09.000 So, I put my cards together and I flip them over and I say, We're coming up from the underground, boys.
02:24:15.000 And the flop comes with a seven.
02:24:16.000 So, I hit my set.
02:24:17.000 And then the dude to my left flips over Jacks and then South throws his aces.
02:24:21.000 And I ended up coming up $900.
02:24:23.000 And I was like, That's how I do $100 an hour.
02:24:26.000 And it's like, Clearly, don't play that way because you'll get crushed.
02:24:30.000 You get ripping pocket sevens.
02:24:32.000 I just got dumb luck.
02:24:34.000 But I had a really fun hand.
02:24:35.000 This one was so much fun.
02:24:37.000 So, we get like two limpers.
02:24:40.000 And I'm on the button with Jack Four offsuit.
02:24:42.000 And so I raised to 15 bucks.
02:24:43.000 Why?
02:24:44.000 It's a position raise.
02:24:44.000 I'm on the button.
02:24:45.000 I'm stealing.
02:24:46.000 We got five bucks.
02:24:47.000 I'm going to take it.
02:24:49.000 The only problem for me is small blindfolds, big blind calls, limper calls.
02:24:53.000 And I'm like, well, you know, this happens.
02:24:55.000 Best thing for me is it goes Jack, Jack Eight.
02:24:56.000 So I hit trips.
02:24:57.000 I got shit for a kicker, but I got trips.
02:25:00.000 So then check, check to me.
02:25:03.000 I bet, I think I bet.
02:25:04.000 So there's 45.
02:25:05.000 I bet 20 into 45.
02:25:07.000 A little small, but look, I got the best hand here.
02:25:10.000 You know what I mean?
02:25:11.000 So I want to, I'm not too scared about anything they might have.
02:25:14.000 In fact, they're probably going to fold even with a smaller bet.
02:25:16.000 I'm not going to bet too big.
02:25:17.000 I probably could have gone two thirds and done like 35, maybe 30.
02:25:22.000 No, Big Blind raises to 60.
02:25:25.000 Dude folds, and I'm like, wow.
02:25:28.000 On a paired board, Jack Jack eight, you're raising my bet.
02:25:32.000 And so I'm talking it out, and I'm like, you got a Jack?
02:25:37.000 It's like, I don't, if you had a Jack, I don't know why you would raise there because I'm betting into you.
02:25:41.000 You want to take my money down.
02:25:42.000 You get the best hand.
02:25:43.000 So, why would you bet there unless maybe you have a small pocket pair or nines or tens?
02:25:47.000 So, you're beating the eight and you think I might have ace eight or an eight, or you think that I've got a hand that's just missed the board.
02:25:54.000 It's a paired board, so hitting it's less likely.
02:25:56.000 And I'm like, 60 bucks?
02:25:57.000 That's a strong bet.
02:25:59.000 So, I call.
02:26:01.000 Five comes out.
02:26:02.000 There's no, there's no, there's, I mean, they technically could bring in a gut shot or if you have six, seven.
02:26:06.000 And so he bets 125.
02:26:10.000 And I'm like, wow.
02:26:11.000 I was like, you got to have a jack.
02:26:13.000 I was like, what could you possibly be betting in a one two game?
02:26:16.000 $125.
02:26:18.000 One two players don't play this way.
02:26:20.000 They bet when they got it, they fold when they don't.
02:26:22.000 I mean, raising me like this, I was like, he's screaming he's got a jack.
02:26:25.000 And if he does, my four's not beating anything he's got.
02:26:27.000 My only hope is that he's going to have Jack six, Jack seven, Jack three, Jack deuce, which means any Jack he has, why would he call that from the big blind against my 15 bucks?
02:26:36.000 It ain't going to happen.
02:26:37.000 So any Jack he has beats me.
02:26:39.000 But if he had a Jack, he ain't fucking betting $125.
02:26:42.000 Although maybe because I called the 60, he might because you're thinking maybe he's got something.
02:26:47.000 And so I'm like, could you have Jack eight suited here?
02:26:50.000 So I think about it and I'm just like, I still think there's a good candidate for like a pocket pair and you think I whiffed it.
02:26:57.000 And right now, like if you've got nines or tens, And I'm saying this out loud.
02:27:01.000 I'm like, you've got nines or tens.
02:27:02.000 You're thinking you're beating my eight.
02:27:05.000 Okay, I call.
02:27:08.000 Then the river is a king of diamonds, and he jams all in.
02:27:13.000 And then I'm just like, wow.
02:27:15.000 I was like, you're screaming full house.
02:27:17.000 Like, you have to have, if you had pocket eights, you'd call the 15.
02:27:20.000 You wouldn't re raise, and you flopped a boat.
02:27:22.000 Just very unlikely for that to happen.
02:27:24.000 But if you've got a jack, you're beating at, I flip over my jack, and I'm like, this is a tough spot.
02:27:29.000 I was like, I got a jack, but my kicker is shit.
02:27:32.000 So, Jack nine beats me.
02:27:34.000 Jack eight's a boat.
02:27:34.000 Jack five's a boat.
02:27:37.000 Jack six, Jack seven, Jack three, Jack deuce.
02:27:39.000 Jack four, we chop.
02:27:41.000 So I'm like, I'm playing for a chop, I guess.
02:27:43.000 And then I was just like, I don't understand why you would have re raised me on the flop if you had a jack because I'm betting into you.
02:27:50.000 And if your jack was good, you'd want to take all the money from you.
02:27:52.000 So there's no point to re raise and scare me off the pot.
02:27:55.000 So I take my chips, I slam them in, pocket tens.
02:27:58.000 I ended up leaving with, I don't know.
02:28:01.000 Yeah, that's when I bought it for $3.50.
02:28:02.000 I left with a grand.
02:28:03.000 How long had he been sitting at the table before that happened?
02:28:06.000 When I got there, he was there with a massive stack.
02:28:08.000 He had, I think he had like six, seven hundred bucks.
02:28:11.000 Oh, wow.
02:28:11.000 Yeah, he was building up.
02:28:12.000 And then he goes, Why the fuck would you call me with Jack Four?
02:28:16.000 You even talked it out and said I had a full house.
02:28:19.000 Good hand, Tim.
02:28:20.000 And I was like, That put me up $600 in one hour.
02:28:25.000 Poker's fun.
02:28:26.000 We just got to learn how to not lose in poker.
02:28:28.000 That's a big part of it.
02:28:29.000 So, for those that don't understand, boat means full house.
02:28:33.000 Full house is like a layman's term, but anyone playing poker calls it a boat.
02:28:37.000 For casino boats, the full boat.
02:28:39.000 We're going to bring in callers now so I can stop boring with poker stories.
02:28:42.000 Dr. Fluffy T, you are first.
02:28:45.000 Although Ian was staring at me just like, whoa.
02:28:47.000 I was learning.
02:28:47.000 Yeah, I was doing the math.
02:28:48.000 It's like a free class, basically.
02:28:50.000 I was like, okay, learn.
02:28:52.000 Hi.
02:28:53.000 What up?
02:28:53.000 Yeah, Royal Flush is Exodia.
02:28:56.000 Whenever I get pieces of the Royal Flush, I'll be like, ah, I had three pieces of Exodia.
02:29:02.000 Exodia?
02:29:03.000 I haven't had one of those in a day.
02:29:04.000 Dr. Fluffy T, you are here.
02:29:07.000 What's up, T?
02:29:08.000 What up, Dr. Fluff?
02:29:10.000 You're muted, by the way, if you're there.
02:29:11.000 He's not muted.
02:29:12.000 Then you're sitting in stunned silence.
02:29:14.000 We're going to have to come back.
02:29:15.000 He!
02:29:16.000 And this time we are in the room.
02:29:17.000 Some kind of technical stupefaction.
02:29:19.000 Yeah, me, Robbie, and Brian Shapiro are going to start working on a poker podcast.
02:29:23.000 It's just, I don't have any time to do it.
02:29:24.000 That is going to be awesome.
02:29:26.000 So it's on the Poker with the Boys channel, and we've got the graphics and everything.
02:29:30.000 You know what?
02:29:30.000 I need to talk to you and Kellen about setting up how we do the stream with Zoom or something.
02:29:36.000 I don't fucking know.
02:29:37.000 No politics.
02:29:37.000 Yeah?
02:29:39.000 Dr. Fluffy T will come back to you.
02:29:43.000 We'll go with plastic politics.
02:29:46.000 Oh, he's a submarine guy.
02:29:47.000 I know him.
02:29:48.000 Oh, nice.
02:29:49.000 What up, dude?
02:29:49.000 Submarine guy.
02:29:51.000 Bridge maneuvering test 7MC.
02:29:55.000 Maneuvering sonar.
02:29:56.000 Give me some injection temperature back there.
02:30:00.000 Sonar constant water injection temperature down here in Nashville is a cool 77 degrees.
02:30:05.000 How are you doing, brother?
02:30:06.000 Sorry I ignored your text telling me you were going to be on TimCast.
02:30:10.000 I wanted to surprise you and call in.
02:30:12.000 He's a good dude.
02:30:13.000 Submarine jargon, huh?
02:30:14.000 Yeah, he's a nuke electrician.
02:30:16.000 So he controls the throttle, all the electrical stuff in the back.
02:30:21.000 Wow.
02:30:22.000 I'm the gas pedal.
02:30:24.000 Guys like Ben, they drive.
02:30:25.000 I just push.
02:30:26.000 There's no heads in the engine room.
02:30:29.000 Wow.
02:30:29.000 So you're talking to someone that has pooped in plastic bags throughout his career.
02:30:34.000 I should watch some maneuvering shit, mate.
02:30:36.000 There was no shitting in a bucket.
02:30:38.000 Wow.
02:30:38.000 You really poop in bags?
02:30:40.000 There's no head in the engine room.
02:30:43.000 You can think Hyman G Rickover, nuclear sub safe.
02:30:46.000 So when nukes go on watch in the engine room, technically they can't leave unless they're relieved for them to go forward.
02:30:54.000 There's no, I don't know why there's not a head in the engine room.
02:30:58.000 It's got a, I mean, you got nuclear stuff.
02:31:00.000 Gonna match.
02:31:00.000 What's poop?
02:31:01.000 Just put like a suction tube, you know, you can poop it.
02:31:04.000 Yeah.
02:31:04.000 Some guys got pretty creative, but unfortunately, I never took part in any stuff like that.
02:31:09.000 But Ben, it warms my heart to see you on this.
02:31:11.000 I hope your channel blows up.
02:31:13.000 I'm a Timcast IRL plank owner.
02:31:16.000 I've been here since the beginning.
02:31:18.000 Recently found your content, Ben, about a year ago.
02:31:20.000 Love to hear it.
02:31:21.000 So everyone needs to go subscribe to Ben Dykes' channel because everyone's talking about geopolitics.
02:31:26.000 Everyone can talk to you about the Strait of Hormuz, but guys like Ben can tell you what the Straits of Hormuz fucking smells like.
02:31:33.000 So, you're going to get good information from this guy.
02:31:36.000 Unfortunately, you're right.
02:31:38.000 Yeah.
02:31:39.000 My question is about Iran.
02:31:41.000 So, long story short, Jack Smith triggered me today, Tim, much like he did to you.
02:31:48.000 And I remembered he admitted into evidence in one of his cases against Trump an undercover recording of Trump, audio only, where he was talking to a report.
02:31:59.000 I think it was a classified documents case, where Trump was recorded.
02:32:04.000 And he admitted, now he didn't know he was being recorded.
02:32:06.000 So, in my opinion, he was being honest, where he admitted the Pentagon was pressuring him to attack Iran, Iran, whatever.
02:32:17.000 And then, and he's like, no, I refused.
02:32:19.000 Absolutely.
02:32:19.000 I wouldn't do that.
02:32:20.000 Blah, This was in 2022 where the recording was made.
02:32:24.000 Now, three years later, we've attacked Iran.
02:32:30.000 So, what changed?
02:32:34.000 I have a theory, but I want to hear you guys' theory.
02:32:36.000 Did not want to attack Iran.
02:32:36.000 Trump.
02:32:39.000 Now he has.
02:32:40.000 What the hell changed in those three years?
02:32:44.000 Personally, I think that he was convinced that it would be a short, easy conflict, particularly after the action in Venezuela.
02:32:57.000 I think they had plenty of plans in place.
02:33:00.000 So they showed Trump, look, this is how Venezuela went down.
02:33:04.000 We can do something real similar to Iran, to the IRGC.
02:33:09.000 And I think that the.
02:33:12.000 That the argument that was made was this will pressure China.
02:33:16.000 This will pressure, this will put the United States into a position where they're the largest oil export.
02:33:23.000 So this is going to be good for the United States and we can get it done in, you know, a few weeks to six weeks and it'll all come out.
02:33:32.000 You'll all come out smelling like roses.
02:33:34.000 And I think he bought it.
02:33:37.000 That is my case.
02:33:39.000 That makes a lot of sense.
02:33:39.000 Anyone else want to chime in?
02:33:41.000 It was the same kind of thing he was slowly enticed.
02:33:44.000 Day by day, and he's surrounded and insulated by people that are working his ego, taking calls with people.
02:33:49.000 He wants to cut off energy to China so they can't build AI.
02:33:53.000 Now, I've heard your takes on this, Tim, and it's genius when dealing with choking off China as far as oil.
02:34:01.000 It's fantastic.
02:34:02.000 But here's the problem Trump is very, in my opinion, transactional, right?
02:34:06.000 So he's going to get long term benefits, but he needs a short term benefit.
02:34:10.000 And I'm sorry, there are no short term benefits.
02:34:13.000 He's going to lose the midterms.
02:34:16.000 If 10 or 12 Republican senators would literally put Trump in prison for the rest of his life, he's putting all that at risk.
02:34:24.000 It doesn't make sense.
02:34:25.000 There's no short term payoff.
02:34:27.000 So here's my theory Saudi Arabia.
02:34:31.000 This is what changed.
02:34:32.000 In 2024, the petrodollar deal with Saudi Arabia ran out.
02:34:39.000 And it ran out three days before Trump and Biden's debate in the summer of 2024, where Biden shit the bed.
02:34:48.000 Trump, it's the perfect attack vector for Trump to take against Biden.
02:34:52.000 He's the deal maker.
02:34:53.000 Elect him.
02:34:53.000 He'll make a deal.
02:34:54.000 Cheap gas.
02:34:56.000 He never mentioned it.
02:34:59.000 Complete silence, which told me this scared him losing this.
02:35:03.000 So I think that was one of Trump's first calls he made when he got back in the White House.
02:35:08.000 He called up the crown prince and said, How do we get a petrol dealer done?
02:35:13.000 I want a hundred year deal.
02:35:14.000 Yep.
02:35:15.000 Saudi Arabia comes back and says, We'll give you a hundred year deal.
02:35:18.000 We'll give you $1.50 gas in the United States.
02:35:22.000 We'll set up a Republican dynasty for the next 20, 30 years.
02:35:26.000 But we want regime change in Iran.
02:35:28.000 Yeah.
02:35:29.000 That's a good point.
02:35:30.000 Yeah.
02:35:30.000 That makes a lot of sense.
02:35:32.000 I think the other thing with Iran, they've never lost a negotiation.
02:35:37.000 They've never won a war.
02:35:39.000 I don't know if it's like they don't know that they are losing militarily.
02:35:44.000 But, and the other thing is, I believe we don't really know who they're actually negotiating with for Iran.
02:35:51.000 I mean, it's like the Democrat Party.
02:35:53.000 Nobody knows who the leader of the Democrat Party is.
02:35:56.000 Nobody knows who the leader of Iran is.
02:35:58.000 And that's, You've got to have some like central point.
02:36:02.000 There has to be some connection there.
02:36:04.000 And we don't know.
02:36:06.000 We just don't know.
02:36:06.000 I'm going to tell you, there were a lot of trips of Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Jr. going to Saudi Arabia during the Biden administration.
02:36:15.000 So I think this has been in the works for a while.
02:36:17.000 So I'm pretty Israel indifferent, right?
02:36:20.000 I really don't care at all.
02:36:22.000 But I think it's the perfect plan because Israel's the scapegoat.
02:36:26.000 I mean, I forget who it was.
02:36:28.000 It wasn't Mike Johnson, it wasn't Hegsef.
02:36:30.000 Maybe it was Tulsi Gabbard that came out and said, uh, Marco Rubio, we thank you, Rubio.
02:36:36.000 Uh, we have to attack because Israel was going to attack.
02:36:38.000 I think Trump went to BB and said, Listen, we're going to attack Iran, but you're going to be the scapegoat.
02:36:44.000 And BB says, Hell yeah, I've been trying to get you to attack Iran for the last 60 years.
02:36:49.000 So Israel gladly will take the fall, they'll take the blame for us attacking Iran.
02:36:55.000 Meanwhile, Trump is trying to get a deal done with Saudi Arabia.
02:36:57.000 That is the only thing that makes sense to me.
02:37:01.000 I mean, that actually, I mean, I don't have any kind of evidence, but it does make sense to me, too.
02:37:07.000 The Saudis hate the Iranians.
02:37:09.000 Yeah, they do.
02:37:11.000 And the petrodollar is the Saudi Arabia contract is the linchpin.
02:37:17.000 Yep.
02:37:18.000 And Trump has never talked about it.
02:37:20.000 And this is my theory on Epstein stuff, too.
02:37:23.000 One of my theories is that at least a portion of the Epstein files include Saudi princes banging kids.
02:37:28.000 Oh, without a shadow of a doubt.
02:37:30.000 And so.
02:37:31.000 They're like, release the files, and Trump's like, the Saudis will never do a deal with us if we come out on TV and say they're banging kids.
02:37:39.000 Yeah.
02:37:39.000 I agree.
02:37:40.000 The one thing that I've yet anybody to talk about is off the coast of Israel is that Leviathan natural gas field.
02:37:46.000 Nobody's talking about that, but it's huge.
02:37:49.000 It's like the largest natural gas field ever discovered.
02:37:54.000 I think we're going to have to go liberate some Israelis and build some gas shields.
02:38:00.000 Do some clicking on that Leviathan gas field, it's massive.
02:38:05.000 Well, I'll go ahead and get out of here.
02:38:07.000 Ben, it was nice talking to you as always.
02:38:09.000 Get back behind the mic, man, and we'll talk some more.
02:38:11.000 Take care, buddy.
02:38:12.000 It's good talking with you.
02:38:13.000 Absolutely.
02:38:14.000 Absolutely.
02:38:14.000 I want to shout out Ben Show.
02:38:16.000 I want to shout out my main man, Carter, who checked out my Timcast MAGA month promo video pinned to my Twitter at Plastic Cut Politics.
02:38:26.000 I told you the ending was a banger, Carter.
02:38:28.000 And he responded and said, Oh, yeah.
02:38:31.000 Oh, yeah.
02:38:32.000 No, it was.
02:38:32.000 It was, dude.
02:38:34.000 Hey, can I just call you a fucking nuke?
02:38:36.000 Can I call you a fucking nuke?
02:38:38.000 Absolutely call me a nuke.
02:38:39.000 That term on submarines is very common.
02:38:43.000 I made that.
02:38:43.000 Very common.
02:38:44.000 Not only did I make that video for Timcast, I also actually, believe it or not, made Ben's.
02:38:49.000 Live stream outro.
02:38:50.000 It's great.
02:38:50.000 Yeah, he did.
02:38:51.000 I'll share it with you.
02:38:52.000 That's great, man.
02:38:52.000 It's good.
02:38:53.000 You take care, buddy.
02:38:54.000 Thanks for calling in, man.
02:38:54.000 Be good.
02:38:56.000 Let's dive to shit.
02:38:58.000 Yo, this Leviathan gas field's insane.
02:39:01.000 Told you.
02:39:02.000 Nobody's talking about it.
02:39:03.000 It's the largest one ever discovered.
02:39:03.000 It's huge.
02:39:04.000 Isn't there a big oil field off Vietnam, too?
02:39:06.000 Malaysia?
02:39:07.000 I think Vietnam might have been about oil, too.
02:39:09.000 I don't know.
02:39:11.000 I just know the Leviathan gas thing is.
02:39:13.000 Next up, we've got a slow Discord.
02:39:17.000 Mellow Maverick.
02:39:18.000 What up, dude?
02:39:19.000 Hi.
02:39:21.000 Evening, gentlemen.
02:39:21.000 Pleasure to talk with you.
02:39:23.000 Hope you're doing well.
02:39:24.000 I'm doing well.
02:39:28.000 So, I was curious for untold decades, there have been issues with the barracks or housing that have been issued to service members with HVAC systems, infrastructure, everything that is substandard, and lower enlisted are constantly getting blamed for it, being drafted into work parties and forced to deal with these problems that.
02:39:54.000 Were caused by people cutting corners using stub standard materials, getting kickbacks, and it's the officers and upper enlisted that are always coming after them for stuff that they signed off on.
02:40:09.000 Do you think that Heg Seth will make this a priority at some point, or is this something that's just going to persist well into the future?
02:40:18.000 If that question's for me, as far as I know, I retired in 2014.
02:40:22.000 The last base I was at was up in Bangor, Washington, submarine base, and they actually.
02:40:27.000 Like, they kind of contracted it out to private businesses because you know better than I do that private business works better than government.
02:40:38.000 And whenever I retired, they were revamping all of the base housing, they were revamping the barracks, the BEQs.
02:40:46.000 And it was, I don't know now, obviously, but at that time, there was a direction to make health and comfort a real priority.
02:40:58.000 And I hope that it's continuing like that.
02:41:01.000 I can't say that all the military bases are going to be as nice as Air Force bases, but I hope so.
02:41:10.000 Well, part of the reason I bring this up is because Hodge and Cots exist for a reason, and it's calling out the infrastructure that's on these bases, but it doesn't seem to be getting enough traction.
02:41:25.000 Yeah.
02:41:25.000 I mean, I don't know right now, I don't have my thumb on the scale of what's happening militarily.
02:41:32.000 I do talk to a lot of veterans that are getting out, and I haven't really heard very many voice any sort of complaints on base infrastructure and stuff like that.
02:41:43.000 The big thing that I hear complaints from working as a veteran service officer is the transition.
02:41:49.000 The military is not good at helping service members transition through what they call the Transition Assistance Program.
02:41:57.000 It's TAP class, they teach you to write a resume, get prepared like that.
02:42:01.000 I hope that's improving.
02:42:04.000 Because I think the military is really good at preparing people to go to battle.
02:42:08.000 They're not great at preparing people to go back and be a civilian.
02:42:11.000 And I think that's if I could fix a couple of things, that would be the conversation I would have.
02:42:16.000 And I've talked to Doug Collins about that before.
02:42:19.000 And, you know, the VA is the VA, you know.
02:42:24.000 What are the things that the military can do, like top three things off the top of your head, to improve reintegration?
02:42:30.000 That transition assistance, the one thing that they have done now that not a lot of people know about, it's like the best kept little secret that the military has, is in your last three years, specifically your last year.
02:42:45.000 You can actually go and work at a private company, unpaid by the company.
02:42:51.000 You go work unpaid by the company, kind of like an apprenticeship.
02:42:55.000 The military pays you your salary.
02:42:57.000 So it actually helps you reintegrate into society.
02:43:01.000 Interesting.
02:43:01.000 And it's phenomenal.
02:43:02.000 It's the best kept secret in the military.
02:43:05.000 Do people opt in for that?
02:43:06.000 Oh, yeah.
02:43:07.000 Loads, loads, lots of companies.
02:43:09.000 Where I'm at in Arkansas, they're going to Walmart, Tyson's, all these other companies.
02:43:14.000 And it just.
02:43:15.000 It's kind of that apprenticeship.
02:43:16.000 It lets you go back to learn to be a civilian, I guess, you know.
02:43:24.000 Got anything you want to add or follow up question?
02:43:27.000 No, I think that's about it.
02:43:28.000 What branch of service were you in?
02:43:31.000 Go Army beat Navy.
02:43:33.000 I knew it.
02:43:34.000 I knew it.
02:43:35.000 Go Navy beat Army.
02:43:37.000 Thank you very much.
02:43:37.000 Well done.
02:43:38.000 I appreciate you, man.
02:43:39.000 Homie.
02:43:40.000 Have a good evening.
02:43:41.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:43:41.000 Take care.
02:43:44.000 All right.
02:43:44.000 Let's try and get Dr. Fluffy T back in here.
02:43:47.000 That's what I'm talking about.
02:43:48.000 Dr. Fluffy T, I'm saying.
02:43:50.000 Hello, dude.
02:43:52.000 What's up?
02:43:52.000 There you go.
02:43:53.000 Yeah.
02:43:54.000 How fluffed are you, dude?
02:43:56.000 Really?
02:43:56.000 In porn, they say the fluffer's job is to get the guy hard.
02:43:59.000 Yeah.
02:44:00.000 Thanks.
02:44:00.000 You didn't know.
02:44:02.000 I guess he's not here.
02:44:03.000 Dude, Fluffy T bag.
02:44:06.000 He's there, but he's not saying nothing.
02:44:08.000 Maybe your mic's not working, brother.
02:44:09.000 He's muted.
02:44:11.000 He's not muted.
02:44:12.000 Yeah.
02:44:12.000 Sorry to hear it.
02:44:13.000 Mechanical failure.
02:44:14.000 Y'all do your calls through Discord or something?
02:44:16.000 Yeah.
02:44:16.000 Yeah, Discord.
02:44:17.000 T bag.
02:44:18.000 I take phone calls on my show as well.
02:44:20.000 I do through.
02:44:23.000 Google voice or something.
02:44:25.000 Oh, Google Meet.
02:44:26.000 Before I go to work.
02:44:28.000 And I take phone calls.
02:44:29.000 It's like the old Rush Limbaugh, you know, like that.
02:44:31.000 And I love, and people love it.
02:44:33.000 They love calling in and just.
02:44:36.000 I was doing X spaces for Collins last week.
02:44:40.000 I'm trying to figure out a way to do it.
02:44:42.000 I didn't, I haven't done it.
02:44:43.000 I didn't do it yesterday.
02:44:43.000 We'll see what happens for today.
02:44:44.000 I love talking to people from just, I mean, I've gotten calls from freaking Australia, Germany, you know, everywhere.
02:44:52.000 And everybody's always like, oh, aren't you scared what they're going to say?
02:44:55.000 I'm like, no.
02:44:56.000 I mean, I'll just hang up on you, I guess.
02:44:59.000 That's why I'm white pilled on the internet, the power of communication.
02:45:03.000 Like, without it, obviously there's drawbacks, but dude.
02:45:06.000 I have one troll that always calls in, and he's got his own YouTube channel, and he calls into all these talk shows and posts the phone call.
02:45:15.000 And it's epic.
02:45:17.000 It is hilarious.
02:45:18.000 It's really fun.
02:45:20.000 He records his own calls and then he replays them on his channel.
02:45:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:45:25.000 Man, Fluffy Teabag.
02:45:27.000 Nah, he's gone.
02:45:28.000 I mean, he's sitting there, but he ain't saying nothing.
02:45:29.000 You didn't even restart Discord.
02:45:31.000 Unplug your mic, plug it back in.
02:45:33.000 Wait, don't let us down, man.
02:45:35.000 I think he just muted himself and unmuted.
02:45:37.000 He's testing it.
02:45:38.000 He's trying.
02:45:39.000 We know you're there.
02:45:40.000 Giving it the old college vibe.
02:45:41.000 You're going to get her up, fluff.
02:45:42.000 You figured it out, dude.
02:45:46.000 Hello.
02:45:46.000 Just like that.
02:45:47.000 The world was manifest.
02:45:48.000 Come on, man.
02:45:50.000 We're counting on you.
02:45:53.000 I'm trying to get my buddy to come on, get in touch with you.
02:45:55.000 You know Jameson's.
02:45:56.000 Uh uh.
02:45:57.000 Travels.
02:45:57.000 Jameson's Travels.
02:45:59.000 You don't know JT?
02:46:00.000 What does he do?
02:46:00.000 No.
02:46:01.000 He's got a channel.
02:46:02.000 He's got about a million subs or whatever.
02:46:04.000 He does like.
02:46:06.000 Military cringe.
02:46:09.000 Oh, what?
02:46:11.000 You're back.
02:46:12.000 Can you hear me?
02:46:13.000 Yes.
02:46:15.000 Oh, my goodness.
02:46:16.000 I'm a girl, not a dude.
02:46:18.000 Oh, dude to me, lady.
02:46:22.000 I've been listening to the show, I think, since 2020.
02:46:26.000 So this is really cool.
02:46:28.000 Welcome to the show.
02:46:29.000 Welcome.
02:46:30.000 Is this Dr. Fluffy T?
02:46:31.000 It is.
02:46:33.000 So I'll just get straight to my question What is gained by convincing Republican voters that the midterms are already headed towards disaster?
02:46:42.000 Rather than giving them a concrete strategy for changing the party through participation.
02:46:48.000 What would be your strategy?
02:46:52.000 My strategy is understanding that we can effect change only through power, and we have power in the United States government through having members in Congress.
02:47:07.000 So encourage people to vote no matter what, because it's better to vote Republican.
02:47:12.000 Or vote for people that have our values on the right than not.
02:47:16.000 By not voting, you're ceding power to the opposition, but by voting Republican, at least we can affect power, right?
02:47:24.000 By using our voices, right?
02:47:26.000 And effecting change by primarying people that we don't like and pushing people in the primaries that we want.
02:47:33.000 That's what the Democrats do, especially with the DSA, is that they use the primary system effectively to get the people that they want in a position of power.
02:47:42.000 But we should do that.
02:47:43.000 But we can't say everything is not perfect.
02:47:46.000 Then abandon everything.
02:47:47.000 No, we have to understand we have a two party system.
02:47:50.000 The only way that we can effectuate change is by having power.
02:47:53.000 And you'll vote in people on our side, right?
02:47:57.000 And then effects change by using the power that we have.
02:48:00.000 Look, I completely agree with you.
02:48:00.000 Yeah.
02:48:03.000 And I've stated on the show multiple times the time to express your dissatisfaction with Republicans was seven, eight months ago primaries.
02:48:12.000 Yeah, primaries.
02:48:14.000 That's when you express that you're upset with.
02:48:18.000 The people that are in positions of power now, in Congress, in the Senate, whatever it may be.
02:48:25.000 But that time has passed.
02:48:26.000 And now, because the options are binary, your option is well, you've got three options don't vote, which is, especially in the climate that we're in now, is likely helping the opposition party, right?
02:48:42.000 The party that the Democrats, the party that, you know, at least from my perspective, we don't want to win.
02:48:49.000 Or you go and you vote for the Republican.
02:48:50.000 You hold your nose and you vote for a Republican you don't like.
02:48:53.000 I completely agree with you.
02:48:54.000 Now, what you're seeing now is there's a lot of people that are making a stink about Donald Trump and they're going to take their grievance with Donald Trump out by not going and voting.
02:49:09.000 This isn't likely to do anything significant to Trump himself.
02:49:13.000 It probably is going to have a significant impact on the policies that he can get passed.
02:49:21.000 It's not likely that he's going to get impeached or put in, removed from office.
02:49:26.000 There will be articles of impeachment that will come up if the Democrats get control of the House, but we'll see if those actually produce anything.
02:49:36.000 But to abstain from voting because you're in a midterm because you're upset with the president doesn't help anything for the American people.
02:49:47.000 This only makes the American people, you know, likely to have less.
02:49:52.000 Fewer things that actually go through the house to help the people of the US.
02:49:58.000 So I completely agree that trying to black pill and say, oh, this is going to be so terrible.
02:50:03.000 And we're here trying to tell people what the conditions are, not tell people, you know, hey, look, it's going to be great.
02:50:13.000 Get out there and vote.
02:50:15.000 The Republicans are going to win.
02:50:17.000 You know, we're trying to analyze the situation that we see before us.
02:50:21.000 And we're going to, you know, we do try to be honest.
02:50:24.000 Like, it doesn't look particularly good for the Republicans.
02:50:27.000 That doesn't mean that there's going to be this massive blue wave.
02:50:30.000 I don't know that that's very likely to happen.
02:50:33.000 There are still plenty of safe Republican seats in the House.
02:50:37.000 The real issue is, does the Senate flip?
02:50:42.000 Because we kind of already thought that the House was going to go to the Democrats, anyways.
02:50:46.000 The Senate, we thought the Republicans were safe, but it's still an uphill battle for the Democrats to take the Senate.
02:50:53.000 So I completely agree with you.
02:50:55.000 You're totally right.
02:50:56.000 The idea of just being like, oh, it's all over.
02:50:58.000 The Republicans are totally going to lose and you shouldn't get out and vote.
02:51:01.000 That's totally counterproductive.
02:51:04.000 And I think people get upset.
02:51:07.000 I know they do on my channel.
02:51:08.000 As soon as I say anything criticizing the Republicans, I get crapped on.
02:51:15.000 And I think it's, in my opinion, the four years we had under Biden, it was okay to crap all over the Biden campaign.
02:51:22.000 But I think the difference we have with Republicans, conservatives, whatever, we have a level of expectation.
02:51:29.000 And when they're not met, we talk about it.
02:51:32.000 And if you talk about it, it doesn't mean you're against everything, but I had expectations that I wanted met.
02:51:39.000 And I think expectations are not wrong.
02:51:41.000 And I would say criticizing whoever it is, if you're talking about Republic, maybe it incentivizes people to go vote.
02:51:48.000 If you were just watching somebody just telling you, you know, rainbows and unicorns, you wouldn't have any incentive to go vote.
02:51:55.000 I mean, to get active, to get involved.
02:51:58.000 That's around here, or at least in my experience on the internet, any kind of positive statements for the administration.
02:52:10.000 That's where you get, that's where you catch a lot of hell.
02:52:11.000 Right, right, right.
02:52:12.000 I get a lot of people that are, you know, I'm like, look, the other day I put up a, yesterday I put up a tweet that had a poll and I said maybe it wasn't going to be a blowout for the Democrats anyways.
02:52:22.000 And I caught tons of hell for saying maybe.
02:52:26.000 That wasn't even a statement of saying, no, the Republicans are, you know, it's definitely not like a shill kind of statement where it's like, no, man, the Republicans are definitely going to do okay and it'll be fine, blah, blah, blah.
02:52:36.000 It was just like, maybe it's not going to be as bad.
02:52:39.000 Even questioning whether or not, The Republicans are going to get blown out, and my mentions were a disaster area.
02:52:46.000 Yeah, but they're probably just Indians.
02:52:47.000 Nah, they're all people that, hey, well, it could be, but a lot of them are libertarians that hate Jews.
02:52:52.000 Yeah, I understand.
02:52:55.000 Like, people are pissed about the war.
02:52:57.000 Yeah.
02:52:58.000 And definitely people on the right, one thing that differentiates the right from the left is that the right, I believe, criticizes their own.
02:53:05.000 So there's no question about that.
02:53:08.000 But I think there's just this culture of doomerism on the right right right now.
02:53:13.000 That I'm concerned that that would influence people to just give up.
02:53:18.000 And I think, I believe that there should be some sort of like, there should be some sort of like agreement to talk about hey, understanding how power works in government, understanding that things are not perfect, understanding that to effectuate the things we need, we need the power.
02:53:40.000 And then, therefore, we need to vote, you know, we need to vote conservative, we need to vote Republican at the same time.
02:53:47.000 That's not nullifying or disregarding the issues that are at hand.
02:53:51.000 And by being aware of that, talking about the issues, but also talking about reality, I think that could also be encouraging.
02:53:57.000 And I just wish that if there could be some way that, you know, a lot of the commentators on the rights could meet, I don't know, meet, come up with a strategy to talk about this in a more effective way to encourage people to vote.
02:54:12.000 Well, I mean, look, I'm definitely guilty of saying that we need to have fewer people voting, but that's about, you know, disenfranchising people.
02:54:24.000 I'm saying that people shouldn't be allowed to vote, not whether or not they should go to vote.
02:54:29.000 Considering the situation that we have, In the United States, where basically everyone that's over 18 is eligible to vote, then I want to see as many Republicans get out to vote as possible.
02:54:41.000 I would love to see a lot of Democrats stay home, but that's just me.
02:54:44.000 And then, as for your comments about basically how the government operates, that's something that I at least try to talk about because, look, nobody wants to talk about how the sausage is made, right?
02:54:58.000 The way that things are done in D.C., usually the reality of it is.
02:55:06.000 Pretty far away from what people want to happen.
02:55:10.000 I've talked about how people voted for Donald Trump and they were really hoping for a king to come in and have these sweeping powers that a president just doesn't have.
02:55:19.000 They had expectations that were just outside of what was realistic.
02:55:23.000 And you do have to have a Congress that will legislate the policies that the president has run on.
02:55:31.000 And he just doesn't have that.
02:55:33.000 He doesn't have enough of a majority in Congress that agree with his policies where he can say, I want to see this passed.
02:55:41.000 And the House writes up a bill and the Senate, you know, and they vote on it and it passes and they vote on a bill in the Senate and then it goes to the president where he can sign it.
02:55:54.000 There have been very few bills that have been passed.
02:55:58.000 And the ones that do get passed are things like the Big Beautiful Bill, which have basically everything that they can shove into it because that's the one thing that has to pass.
02:56:06.000 It's an omnibus bill about funding the government and you have to fund the government.
02:56:10.000 So that's the kind of thing that.
02:56:11.000 That generally they can get across the line.
02:56:14.000 But any other bills or whatever, they tend not to actually make it out of the House or the Senate.
02:56:22.000 So, again, I agree with you, but it's a real tall order, particularly because of the way the government's set up.
02:56:28.000 The federal government's not supposed to be passing a boatload of things that are specific.
02:56:35.000 The federal government's supposed to have limited powers, and most of these things are supposed to be state issues.
02:56:41.000 But I feel where you're coming from.
02:56:43.000 I totally agree with you.
02:56:44.000 But.
02:56:45.000 The reality on the ground is a little ugly.
02:56:50.000 When he got Thomas Massey primaried, I was like, what in the fuck am I supporting here?
02:56:56.000 And I get it.
02:56:56.000 Maybe there's a time to put your head down and just accept the shit.
02:56:59.000 Like, we're at war with Iran.
02:57:01.000 Put your head down, smile, tell everyone it's going to be okay.
02:57:04.000 But I don't play that.
02:57:05.000 Maybe my honesty is a detriment sometimes, but I'm really disillusioned with the way they handled Massey, that they basically used all that.
02:57:12.000 And not Thune.
02:57:13.000 I don't even.
02:57:15.000 Correct.
02:57:15.000 I agree.
02:57:17.000 It's like, be consistent.
02:57:18.000 I haven't understood why no senator, Republican senators, have tried to get Thune replaced.
02:57:24.000 Well, his election's not till what, 28 or whatever.
02:57:28.000 But either way, you can take action against him.
02:57:30.000 Yeah, remove him as the speaker.
02:57:32.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:57:33.000 Or majority leader, sorry.
02:57:34.000 Yeah, I don't understand.
02:57:37.000 I can't figure it out.
02:57:38.000 I really can't.
02:57:39.000 What I really empathize, sympathize, and believe you and agree with you is that we need a message.
02:57:44.000 And whoever we are, I'm an unaffiliated voter, I'll vote for whoever the best candidate is.
02:57:49.000 Some sort of positive creationist message about how we can, not creationism isn't a religion, but like what we can build.
02:57:55.000 Because he wants to make America great.
02:57:56.000 Show me how.
02:57:57.000 Like, give me the skeleton of a plan, man, that doesn't have to do with conquering.
02:58:02.000 Like, show me new technology.
02:58:04.000 Give me Waze.
02:58:06.000 Well, I mean, Waze is old technology.
02:58:08.000 Nobody uses it anymore.
02:58:08.000 Yeah, maybe not Waze.
02:58:10.000 Maybe Google Maps.
02:58:10.000 I mean, this is kind of.
02:58:12.000 What do you think the October surprise could be?
02:58:14.000 I mean, there's always an October surprise, right?
02:58:16.000 He's going to release the AppShare files, and it's just all Democrat.
02:58:18.000 AI, like, these things that you're talking about are outside of the.
02:58:23.000 This is exactly what I was just talking about, right?
02:58:26.000 Like, the government isn't in the AI business.
02:58:29.000 Mm hmm.
02:58:30.000 And he's doing things that are, he's saying, look, we want to see AI be, you know, we want to see the United States leading in AI and we want American companies to make AI.
02:58:40.000 But the government doesn't do AI.
02:58:43.000 Like the government's not in the AI business.
02:58:45.000 So this actually speaks, yeah, well, America is.
02:58:45.000 All it really is is.
02:58:48.000 But like, but this speaks to the point that I just made, right?
02:58:51.000 Like people think that the government does things that the government doesn't do.
02:58:56.000 They think that the president has powers that he doesn't have.
02:59:00.000 I don't expect him to do it.
02:59:00.000 And that's your opinion.
02:59:01.000 I just want him to give me the plan, be the mouthpiece for the American corporate machine, and tell me how you're going to use this monolith to build a better future.
02:59:10.000 Like, give me some string to chase or something.
02:59:13.000 I agree with the end.
02:59:15.000 Leadership, morale.
02:59:16.000 There are a lot of things that Trump is doing that people are not aware of because the media is focused on just negative things about him and dealing with those negative things.
02:59:30.000 We're not really talking about the things he's actually doing.
02:59:33.000 Besides the Iran war, there are a lot of things that he's doing.
02:59:39.000 What's one of your favorites?
02:59:42.000 Well, there was a talk about, I know you guys talked about like the steel plant in Ohio.
02:59:47.000 There's talk that there's, you know, what he's doing with healthcare, with reducing cost for medication.
02:59:54.000 There's a lot of things that he's doing with reducing regulation.
02:59:58.000 There's a lot of things that he's doing, even AI regulations for that.
03:00:04.000 bringing people together to talk about how to implement these things safely.
03:00:08.000 He's done a lot of things to deregulate the EPA.
03:00:13.000 There are a lot of things that he's done that, if talked about, people can see the benefit of that.
03:00:19.000 I received tax returns these past couple of years for the first time in a very long time.
03:00:25.000 That's something that people need to talk about because that's something I'm sure everybody's experienced, right?
03:00:30.000 Getting a little bit more back in your tax returns.
03:00:34.000 There's a lot more that he's done to effectuate change, but people are just not talking about that.
03:00:39.000 We're all just focusing on the negative stuff, which is exactly what left leaning media wants us to do.
03:00:45.000 I think it's true that he has done a lot, but you have to take what he has done and look at where we're at compared to where we were.
03:00:50.000 And the debt's higher, we're at a war.
03:00:53.000 But I'm not as interested in him lauding his accomplishments.
03:00:56.000 I want him to give me a plan of the future.
03:00:58.000 He used to say, We're going to build a wall.
03:01:00.000 And that was exciting to a lot of people because they could visualize it, they knew it was a real, tangible thing that was going to happen.
03:01:05.000 What's happening, though?
03:01:07.000 It is.
03:01:07.000 And so if he gave me a new economic plan like that, we're going to build a space elevator.
03:01:12.000 We're going to build, you know, we're going to make something, a graphene.
03:01:17.000 We're going to build a new city that's all 21st century materials.
03:01:20.000 You know, give me a vision.
03:01:22.000 He abandoned the line.
03:01:23.000 I know, that Saudi Arabian crazy building.
03:01:26.000 The president shouldn't be building cities.
03:01:29.000 We keep coming back to these things that, like, it's outside of the scope of the president or the federal government.
03:01:36.000 And they're implemented in the Constitution.
03:01:38.000 Presidential powers on that.
03:01:39.000 I assume the government didn't build the wall.
03:01:40.000 They have private contractors do it.
03:01:42.000 He just guided us and told us it was going to happen.
03:01:44.000 The wall is actually something that is under the scope of the federal government because it has to do with immigration and the border.
03:01:50.000 You remember, what was it, the guy, World War II president, FDR, with his New Deal, where he got people excited to rebuild the infrastructure of the United States.
03:02:00.000 That was a good example.
03:02:01.000 I think that the whole of the New Deal was just unconstitutional and terrible.
03:02:04.000 Did he start welfare?
03:02:05.000 Yeah.
03:02:06.000 FDR, not a good example.
03:02:06.000 Yeah.
03:02:07.000 And there are a lot of people who think that he actually extended the Great Depression with the New Deal.
03:02:10.000 Yeah, I agree.
03:02:11.000 Had a bunch of bridges built.
03:02:12.000 So maybe it ended up costing the country more than it needed, and we just lived off the surplus of what we gained when we conquered Germany and Japan.
03:02:19.000 But still, it excited people and rallied people to focus on a future.
03:02:23.000 Project that we can all work on together as a species, you know, and if not Americans, as a human.
03:02:30.000 We need it from the Republicans, and they need to know what they're talking about when they talk about it.
03:02:30.000 We need that.
03:02:35.000 If you want to see that party succeed, that's my opinion.
03:02:38.000 Coming from the military side, and I know some people might agree with me, when I was in the Navy, if a sailor wasn't complaining, I worried about them.
03:02:50.000 A sailor that's complaining is fine.
03:02:54.000 When they're not complaining, you need to worry.
03:02:57.000 And sadly, that might be the way the American people are right now.
03:03:01.000 They're complaining.
03:03:02.000 If they weren't complaining.
03:03:03.000 No, actually, I disagree.
03:03:04.000 They're not complaining.
03:03:05.000 The American people aren't complaining?
03:03:07.000 Most people are checked out from the whole system.
03:03:10.000 Yeah, they're just de incentivized.
03:03:10.000 Oh, I see.
03:03:12.000 Is it decentivized?
03:03:13.000 Yeah.
03:03:13.000 Is that what you noticed in the Navy?
03:03:15.000 Is it the people that weren't complaining were like checked out?
03:03:17.000 The people that weren't complaining, I wondered.
03:03:21.000 Yeah, I wondered what they were up to, you know, that kind of thing.
03:03:25.000 Where's that guy hiding at?
03:03:27.000 What is he not doing that he should be doing?
03:03:29.000 You know what I mean?
03:03:30.000 That's just the way it was in the Navy.
03:03:32.000 A happy sailor was a complaining sailor.
03:03:34.000 I noticed after Trump got elected this last time, the Democrat people that I knew that were like Democrats freaked out.
03:03:40.000 They freaked out.
03:03:41.000 Charlie Kirk got killed.
03:03:41.000 Time went by.
03:03:42.000 They freaked out.
03:03:42.000 And then a couple months went by and Trump did the Iranian thing and they all just went silent.
03:03:47.000 And it's like, what is happening?
03:03:48.000 What are they planning?
03:03:49.000 What are people really doing behind that isn't online anymore?
03:03:52.000 People got like iced out about that they were going to get the I sent their feds sent to their.
03:03:56.000 Door if they ever interrupt your enemy when you're making a mistake, right?
03:03:59.000 So they're like watching and just waiting for it to fail.
03:04:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:04:03.000 I mean, there's so much damage that has been done to the right within the right or what used to be the right that the Democrats think about how much damage someone like Candace Owens has done to the Republican Party or to the conservative movement.
03:04:21.000 Democrats could never buy that, they could never finance how much damage someone like that has done.
03:04:27.000 So, like he says, if somebody's screwing up, just leave them alone.
03:04:30.000 Let them continue to screw up.
03:04:32.000 And to be fair, the Democrats don't have policies that are popular.
03:04:38.000 And the policies that they're hoping for, when they start talking, they start talking about things like defunding the police again or things that the American people have outwardly rejected.
03:04:51.000 The only thing that they have that has some kind of popular support is with people that are angry.
03:04:58.000 About their current situation, and they say things like, Oh, it's the billionaire's fault.
03:05:02.000 Like Bernie Sanders blaming the billionaires is still like that can move nobody.
03:05:06.000 Nobody talked about the Epstein files when Biden was in office.
03:05:08.000 No, not at all.
03:05:09.000 They didn't care.
03:05:10.000 Thomas Massey didn't say nothing about the Epstein files, not a word, when Biden was in office.
03:05:15.000 But Trump comes into office, and suddenly Thomas Massey is the spokesperson for all of the Epstein victims, right?
03:05:23.000 Yeah.
03:05:23.000 Have you met him before?
03:05:24.000 Because you kind of look like him.
03:05:26.000 When you're telling me that, I'm like, Oh my God, you look like Thomas Massey.
03:05:28.000 I haven't.
03:05:29.000 And I don't care for Tom Smith.
03:05:30.000 The problem is, Trump campaigned that he was going to release them.
03:05:33.000 I don't believe so.
03:05:35.000 He did not.
03:05:36.000 That's not true.
03:05:36.000 He didn't.
03:05:37.000 People that were with him did.
03:05:38.000 Yes.
03:05:38.000 No, they were asked and they were like, yeah, sure.
03:05:40.000 There was one interview with Rachel Campos Duffy and he said, yeah, I'll take a look at that.
03:05:44.000 That is not campaigning.
03:05:45.000 Okay.
03:05:46.000 You stand corrected there.
03:05:48.000 My opinion on the Epstein files is a little different because there's a lot of people that took a lot of money and signed a lot of NDAs.
03:05:55.000 Yep.
03:05:56.000 That are now going to CPAC with their Prada bags and they're like, we want the names released.
03:06:03.000 It's like, well, cool, rescind your NDA and turn that cash back over and then you tell us, everybody.
03:06:08.000 Who are you talking about?
03:06:08.000 What happened?
03:06:09.000 I don't know anything about these NDAs.
03:06:11.000 Who got.
03:06:12.000 There were loads of NDAs signed whenever it was paid out.
03:06:15.000 I think it was JP Morgan, Chase Bank.
03:06:19.000 They paid the victims.
03:06:20.000 I want to say it was upwards of like $250 million.
03:06:23.000 Oh, to seal it up.
03:06:25.000 Now, here's the other question some of these victims, I'm really sorry about what happened.
03:06:30.000 Some of the victims were over 18 years old and they were recruiting younger people.
03:06:36.000 So when you're recruiting younger people, you're an adult.
03:06:40.000 I think that's called, it starts with an F and ends with Ellen, felon, but now they're victims?
03:06:48.000 Come on, man.
03:06:49.000 Yeah, I know.
03:06:50.000 And what happened?
03:06:51.000 You're a Massey guy.
03:06:52.000 What happened to the list he was supposed to read on the House floor?
03:06:56.000 I don't know much about it.
03:06:57.000 He swore up and down that he has a list and he's going to have it.
03:06:57.000 What?
03:07:00.000 He had the list.
03:07:00.000 Him and Ro Khanna, they had the list.
03:07:02.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene, I got the list.
03:07:05.000 Where's the list?
03:07:05.000 I don't know.
03:07:06.000 What happened?
03:07:07.000 I don't know.
03:07:07.000 They never.
03:07:08.000 I don't think that they had a list.
03:07:10.000 That's the thing.
03:07:11.000 I don't think they actually had a list.
03:07:12.000 I think it was politically convenient.
03:07:14.000 Very convenient.
03:07:15.000 It was politically convenient to attack the administration, you know, because they didn't like what Trump was doing.
03:07:20.000 And so they're like, well, this moves the needle.
03:07:23.000 So we're going to use this.
03:07:24.000 I like Thomas.
03:07:25.000 But I will, when I see him, go hard on the FC because he should let it go.
03:07:28.000 What is the best compromise?
03:07:29.000 What is the best compromise legislation that Thomas Massey passed?
03:07:32.000 You know what I really like?
03:07:34.000 Right at the beginning of COVID, he drove from Kentucky to the Capitol to make all the senators come in and make a vote on that big money when they were trying to print all that money.
03:07:41.000 But that's not legislation.
03:07:43.000 It was just a way that he was a hero in government.
03:07:45.000 What did Thomas Massey vote to send money to Ukraine?
03:07:48.000 I don't know his record.
03:07:50.000 Ever, you mean?
03:07:50.000 I don't know.
03:07:50.000 Ever?
03:07:52.000 Okay.
03:07:53.000 Do you know the answer?
03:07:53.000 All right.
03:07:54.000 I do.
03:07:55.000 And I think it's very convenient whenever you're asked a question about Massey that you like and you don't remember.
03:08:04.000 Oh, no, I'm not saying I like him because of his voting record.
03:08:06.000 I don't know what his specifically was.
03:08:08.000 That's what matters voting record.
03:08:08.000 I like the way he.
03:08:10.000 I don't care who you are, where you're from.
03:08:11.000 Your voting record matters.
03:08:13.000 Yeah.
03:08:14.000 It does.
03:08:14.000 There's a scorecard.
03:08:15.000 Massey's scorecard's not that good.
03:08:16.000 Oh, you don't think so?
03:08:18.000 He's refused to sign on to legislation like omnibus bills.
03:08:23.000 Massey is a professional contrarian.
03:08:28.000 If you refuse to sign on omnibus bills, that is saying, okay, I'm not going to do this.
03:08:36.000 It's the safest thing you can do because the omnibus bill is going to get passed.
03:08:41.000 It's like voting present.
03:08:42.000 Yeah.
03:08:43.000 It's not really safe because you see you got primaries.
03:08:45.000 It's safe as going along with the status quo.
03:08:46.000 So it's the safest performance you can do because you'll say, I'm going to stand up and I'm not going to do this because I think this is bad.
03:08:54.000 And fair enough, I know that Thomas Massey is really fiscally conservative.
03:08:58.000 But everyone knew that the omnibus bill was going to pass because it's the fund the government bill.
03:09:05.000 He took the contrarian position.
03:09:07.000 I guess voting on your morality and your ethics doesn't do well in the government.
03:09:14.000 Like Ron Paul, he had a hard time.
03:09:16.000 The people that elect you do not vote for you for your morality or ethics, they vote for you to represent them.
03:09:25.000 And that's where fucking politicians lose connection.
03:09:28.000 That's why Kentucky is fucked.
03:09:29.000 You've got McConnell, you've got Rand Paul, you've got Thomas Massey, you've got this governor there, Andy Bershear.
03:09:37.000 Do you think that those four names that I just said are doing what the people in Kentucky want?
03:09:44.000 No, they're doing what they want.
03:09:47.000 And that's the problem.
03:09:48.000 These people forget that they work for us.
03:09:52.000 And you should never fall in love with a politician.
03:09:54.000 They'll always break your heart and steal your wallet.
03:09:57.000 They quit doing what we want.
03:10:00.000 I think it's a defunct system.
03:10:02.000 Having someone else represent what I believe is incapable.
03:10:06.000 Only I can represent myself, and I should have direct access to represent myself.
03:10:10.000 Definitely.
03:10:11.000 I totally disagree.
03:10:12.000 We should not have a direct democracy.
03:10:13.000 That's what I said.
03:10:14.000 I don't know why you extrapolated that.
03:10:15.000 I'm talking about I should be able to represent myself to the federal government.
03:10:18.000 I don't care about direct.
03:10:19.000 I'm not.
03:10:20.000 You can.
03:10:21.000 I'm suggesting a mob rule.
03:10:22.000 You can write your representative.
03:10:25.000 I don't.
03:10:25.000 I represent myself.
03:10:27.000 Who do you want to be?
03:10:28.000 Who would you want to be?
03:10:29.000 So you want to be.
03:10:30.000 You want everybody in the country to be able to represent themselves?
03:10:34.000 Ideally, yeah.
03:10:35.000 So would that not be a direct democracy?
03:10:38.000 No.
03:10:39.000 No, you just break it up.
03:10:39.000 I mean, we have federal districts and stuff like that.
03:10:42.000 So you still.
03:10:43.000 And we have representatives from those districts.
03:10:45.000 Direct democracy is everyone in the country votes and then a.
03:10:48.000 Majority wins.
03:10:49.000 That's not what I want to get rid of the Electoral College.
03:10:51.000 What I'd like to see is instead of 450 congressmen, each with their 700,000 people, all 700,000 of us vote into a smart contract where we say, yeah, for this bill, that's a good thing.
03:11:00.000 Let me finish.
03:11:01.000 I say yes, I'll say no.
03:11:02.000 All 700,000 of us make our decisions.
03:11:04.000 It goes to a tally, and then our district reads the majority and says, our district votes yes because we had 900,000 votes for yes.
03:11:11.000 And then we don't need a representative to say it for us.
03:11:14.000 No one can be bribed.
03:11:15.000 We all voted, we all made our, but it's only, it's not direct democracy because it's just our district.
03:11:20.000 But that would be the same for every district.
03:11:22.000 Every district.
03:11:22.000 That's how we run the.
03:11:23.000 We just have one guy to make those decisions.
03:11:25.000 Okay, so you'd have a direct democracy in your district about what your representative is going to vote for.
03:11:32.000 No, no, we would take the votes ourselves.
03:11:34.000 So, yeah, what I'm saying, but you would.
03:11:36.000 So, your district would have.
03:11:38.000 Your district is a direct democracy, right?
03:11:41.000 Everybody in your district votes yay or nay on whatever the bill is.
03:11:45.000 And then that goes to the Congress, or that just goes straight to whatever the bill is.
03:11:51.000 It would be.
03:11:52.000 So that's not a direct democracy.
03:11:53.000 That's because it doesn't go straight.
03:11:55.000 It goes to a representative first.
03:11:57.000 We have a democratic republic.
03:11:58.000 It's a democratic.
03:12:00.000 So you have a direct democracy about how your representative is going to vote.
03:12:05.000 No.
03:12:05.000 That's like saying that we have a direct democracy when we vote for our politicians.
03:12:09.000 I'm trying to understand.
03:12:11.000 Listen, I'm not trying to mesh up.
03:12:14.000 I'm trying to understand.
03:12:15.000 It's not what I want.
03:12:16.000 It's a bad way to govern.
03:12:17.000 No, but you said there are 700,000 people in your district.
03:12:21.000 Everybody in the district votes.
03:12:23.000 One way or the other on a piece of legislation in question, correct?
03:12:27.000 Yes.
03:12:28.000 Okay, so that's what I mean by direct democracy.
03:12:30.000 It's the people in your district are all voting, and then whether they vote yay or nay, if yay comes up, then your representative goes to the House and says, okay, we vote yay on this.
03:12:45.000 Okay, so that's still a democracy in your district, and they're subject to whatever the democracy is and whatever the result was.
03:12:56.000 Democratically voted on whatever the result was.
03:12:58.000 Yeah.
03:12:59.000 That way they would be serving the desires of their.
03:13:01.000 Did you get rid of the Electoral College?
03:13:03.000 No, I like that it's still.
03:13:04.000 Oh.
03:13:08.000 Fuck.
03:13:09.000 No, because.
03:13:10.000 You like that?
03:13:12.000 I don't want the mobs to be able to choose the direction of the election.
03:13:14.000 But you just said that the mob could choose.
03:13:16.000 The 700,000 mob could choose.
03:13:18.000 The district can choose its vote collectively, but it's.
03:13:22.000 But there's no way that you can say.
03:13:25.000 How long would it take for California to have that vote?
03:13:28.000 Well, if you have it on a smart contract, no one counts it.
03:13:30.000 It just happens automatically.
03:13:31.000 It's on a blockchain so you can watch and go.
03:13:33.000 Yeah, okay.
03:13:33.000 But I mean, do you not understand what I said?
03:13:35.000 I understand.
03:13:36.000 Yeah, I like this is the way that you're describing it as the people are voting democratically.
03:13:44.000 There's no guarantee, there's no reason to believe that the people that are voting yay or nay on a specific piece of legislation have any information about it or have the correct information about it.
03:13:56.000 That's not up to me to decide or care.
03:13:58.000 One guy right now is trying to represent 700,000.
03:14:00.000 He's taking paychecks, he's getting bribed, he's getting dinners, and then he votes to not pass the Save Act when 95% of the country wants it passed.
03:14:07.000 Like, That's the problem I'm trying to solve.
03:14:09.000 Not that the SAVE Act isn't passed, it's that the Senate won't even bring it up for a vote.
03:14:14.000 This is the problem I'm trying to solve for one representative gets bribed.
03:14:19.000 They get taken when they move in there because they only care about what their friends think.
03:14:23.000 You don't know that they're getting bribed.
03:14:25.000 You're just sucked into this machine and they don't serve the people.
03:14:29.000 Play MAPEC, right?
03:14:30.000 Well, what if the people are trying to drink feces water?
03:14:33.000 The function of the system, you know, it's built to represent a small amount of people, I get it.
03:14:37.000 And what if the people are screaming they want to drink feces out of the water?
03:14:39.000 Which people?
03:14:40.000 Let them.
03:14:41.000 The people, all of them.
03:14:42.000 All of the Americans decided one day it's time.
03:14:46.000 And you're the senator from that state, and they're going, We want to drink feces in our water.
03:14:51.000 Would you be like, Okay?
03:14:52.000 I'd say our district voted yes.
03:14:54.000 And I think they're completely wrong.
03:14:55.000 But I'll toast them a glass of feces.
03:14:57.000 I mean, I'd put the vote in for them.
03:14:59.000 You would go down in history as a genocidal maniac.
03:15:01.000 What if all the people in your district voted for something that you think is wrong?
03:15:05.000 It's not, I mean, you kind of do have.
03:15:07.000 This is the point of representative democracy.
03:15:09.000 So that your representative can say, Hold on.
03:15:12.000 That's a bad vote.
03:15:13.000 I'm not going to do it.
03:15:14.000 That's why the Senate is six years and why the House is two years because the emotions of the people will change depending on how they're feeling and how the economy is going.
03:15:29.000 And so you have the House to represent the people, but the Senate is meant to moderate the excesses of the House.
03:15:36.000 At the very least, I'd like to see this happen so that we could put up the representatives' voting record to see if they were aligned with the people.
03:15:43.000 Not that they, maybe they don't.
03:15:45.000 Have to in this system, and they can say, Look, your ideas, all 700,000 of you are wrong, and I'm voting no.
03:15:50.000 You can, you can, I'd like to see that on paper.
03:15:52.000 That's you can look at people's will of the people voting.
03:15:54.000 They don't vote on the Senate bills, they just sit back.
03:15:57.000 Okay, so that's they don't, if they don't change that, or on the report.
03:15:59.000 The point that I'm making is you can look at people's voting record, that's public knowledge.
03:16:04.000 Yeah, but they don't, you don't know what their district wanted.
03:16:06.000 That's not record.
03:16:07.000 I want that on record.
03:16:08.000 You want the what again, what the people of the district want.
03:16:11.000 Yeah, I want that up against what the representative is doing, so you can say, Look, every time you're voting against what your district wants, that every time.
03:16:17.000 Really?
03:16:18.000 That'd be very apparent.
03:16:20.000 I don't know that you could say that they're voting every time.
03:16:24.000 But I will say that just because the people of a district vote for something doesn't mean that that's the best thing for the district.
03:16:32.000 Maybe true.
03:16:32.000 But just because a representative votes for something doesn't mean it's the best thing for the district.
03:16:37.000 I mean, no, that's fair.
03:16:39.000 But I guess what I'm saying is I don't think that your solution will actually solve the problem.
03:16:43.000 It might not solve it, but the problem is so drastic.
03:16:46.000 It would change the problem.
03:16:47.000 I kind of feel like Ian's the kind of guy that would get into power.
03:16:51.000 And then he would like see a problem, like, we got to deal with the feces in the water.
03:16:55.000 And then he would be like, we're raising a bunch of money to deal with the feces in the water.
03:16:58.000 And they would put up like a dam and like a filtration system.
03:17:01.000 And then the people would get all angry and they'd be screaming at him.
03:17:04.000 And he'd be like, the people are protesting right now and they're mad, but I'm doing the right thing.
03:17:08.000 And now they're smashing windows.
03:17:09.000 We got to stop the rioting.
03:17:11.000 Call the police out.
03:17:12.000 And the police come out and start cracking skulls and more protesters come out.
03:17:15.000 Then they're shooting and killing.
03:17:17.000 And then Ian's like, these people have gone insane.
03:17:19.000 They have to be stopped.
03:17:20.000 So calls the National Guard.
03:17:21.000 Then the United States says, you're a dictator, comes in and kills him.
03:17:25.000 Here's what Grok says about Massey.
03:17:27.000 I put in, What is the most important piece of legislation Massey wrote and sponsored?
03:17:32.000 Any guesses?
03:17:33.000 Lack thereof?
03:17:34.000 The piece of legislation Massey actually got enacted that he wrote, sponsored, and forced to a vote is the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
03:17:41.000 Oh, really?
03:17:42.000 I thought he renamed a post office.
03:17:44.000 That's Marjorie.
03:17:45.000 I think she did in Georgia.
03:17:48.000 But the House passed it 427 to 1.
03:17:51.000 Senate passed it 100 to 0.
03:17:53.000 That's it.
03:17:55.000 That's his most important piece, according to.
03:17:59.000 I will say, I don't judge a representative's ability by what they pass.
03:18:03.000 I don't really care.
03:18:04.000 Sometimes I think we need less legislation, and I'd like to see rules.
03:18:07.000 I would love a government.
03:18:08.000 A Congress to come in and say, We just got rid of 37 bills.
03:18:11.000 Yeah.
03:18:12.000 Enjoy your freedom.
03:18:13.000 I love that shit.
03:18:13.000 I don't want more.
03:18:14.000 I don't, it doesn't sound like that.
03:18:15.000 All lucky that Massey didn't impose a bunch of bills.
03:18:17.000 Like, that's it.
03:18:18.000 That would be really.
03:18:19.000 It's like people that hate the government and then they move into a fucking HOA.
03:18:22.000 Oh, you want more government in your life?
03:18:25.000 I just don't understand it.
03:18:26.000 Wait, what?
03:18:27.000 An HOA.
03:18:27.000 What's that a metaphor of?
03:18:29.000 HOA?
03:18:29.000 An HOA?
03:18:30.000 What's like that?
03:18:31.000 You said it's a housing association.
03:18:32.000 You said it's like that.
03:18:33.000 People that hate the government, like you want less government in your life, but then you buy a house in a housing association.
03:18:40.000 What is like that?
03:18:40.000 You said it's like.
03:18:42.000 That, what is like that?
03:18:43.000 You said it's like adding more bills to the government.
03:18:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, I agree.
03:18:48.000 We went way over.
03:18:49.000 Oh, sorry.
03:18:49.000 Just because I was ramming up poker, I figured we'd just go for a little bit longer for the people that were like, we don't care about poker.
03:18:55.000 But we're going to wrap it up here, guys.
03:18:57.000 Dr. Fluffy, thanks for calling in.
03:18:58.000 You want to shout anything out?
03:19:00.000 Not much.
03:19:01.000 I'm really glad I got to speak with you guys today.
03:19:04.000 And I guess, Carter, when is part two for Time Together?
03:19:10.000 The video says to be continued.
03:19:12.000 That is true, man.
03:19:14.000 It does say to be continued.
03:19:15.000 Well, let's figure out the next one.
03:19:16.000 We're going to get together again, again.
03:19:18.000 Yeah.
03:19:18.000 Together again, yes.
03:19:19.000 Together again, again.
03:19:20.000 Nice talking with you, Dr. Fluffy T. Was it Fluffy T?
03:19:24.000 Yep.
03:19:25.000 Dr. Fluffy T, nice talking with you.
03:19:28.000 Yeah.
03:19:29.000 Thanks a lot, man.
03:19:29.000 Thank you.
03:19:30.000 See you, dude.
03:19:32.000 Fix my rhetoric there.
03:19:34.000 That was a lot of fun.
03:19:35.000 You know what I got to do?
03:19:36.000 Thanks for having me.
03:19:37.000 Absolutely.
03:19:38.000 Anytime.
03:19:39.000 We're back tomorrow morning, of course.