Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 28, 2026


Trump Just NUKED Woke Universities From Orbit With New Policies | Timcast IRL

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00:02:07.000 Donald Trump has just stripped Title IX protections from LGBTQ students.
00:02:14.000 This is through the Education Department.
00:02:15.000 So theoretically, it should extend basically to all public schooling.
00:02:18.000 This means that identity is no longer protected under the Civil Rights Act based on this new rule.
00:02:25.000 And it's not the only one.
00:02:26.000 A couple of months ago, a story broke, and we were actually surprised to find we didn't see it until today.
00:02:32.000 In fact, it seems to be the case.
00:02:34.000 Many people didn't.
00:02:37.000 Effectively banned what they're describing as worthless student degrees.
00:02:42.000 This is going to destroy the woke university system.
00:02:46.000 So let me explain.
00:02:47.000 They are saying if your degree doesn't make enough money, if the jobs you can get from it don't make enough money, you can't get a loan for it. 0.97
00:02:56.000 This means every single woke, stupid, feminist, interpretive, dance, politics, sociology nonsense is not going to be eligible for loans, and the universities will not. 0.96
00:03:07.000 Have any funding for them. 0.99
00:03:09.000 The government subsidy of woke ended with this rule.
00:03:13.000 Now we'll see exactly where it goes.
00:03:16.000 Of course, with the midterms coming up, the latest polling is not very good for Republicans, and people are wondering if the Republicans are just resigned to defeat.
00:03:24.000 That may be the case, but Trump is pulling out his secret weapon himself and culture war issues.
00:03:30.000 Now, of course, liberal media is ragging on him, saying it's a mistake, he shouldn't do it, he's not popular enough.
00:03:36.000 Trump is putting this election on himself.
00:03:39.000 And Republicans are shifting the conversation from economics into culture war issues where they know they can see benefits.
00:03:46.000 Despite all that, however, polls are not particularly good.
00:03:49.000 And then, my friends, a story that's going viral because it's fun.
00:03:53.000 You know, seven years ago, NASA ran a simulation, a prediction that there was an asteroid that had a 1% chance of striking the Earth in April of 2027.
00:04:04.000 Now the story's coming back up because, of course, we're only a few months away.
00:04:10.000 And, you know, nothing's going to happen because nothing ever happens, right?
00:04:14.000 A meteor strike of all things.
00:04:16.000 But people like to, I don't know why, I guess, but you get it.
00:04:20.000 People like to imagine these things are possible, they're likely going to happen, and they're just not.
00:04:24.000 And, you know, it is what it is.
00:04:28.000 But we also got to talk about Trevor Lawrence.
00:04:29.000 I don't know if you guys saw this.
00:04:31.000 I'm not a football guy, and my entire Instagram feed is loaded with people.
00:04:36.000 I'm seeing all these viral videos where they're claiming Trevor Lawrence took a knee.
00:04:40.000 All right, in this football game at the one yard line with about nine minutes left in the game.
00:04:45.000 It makes no sense.
00:04:46.000 And then he made a comment about he was doing it for the Fantasy League fans, and people are screaming.
00:04:52.000 The idea now is that Homeboy knew he was affecting the state of the game to benefit gamblers, potentially himself, and this is all rigged.
00:05:02.000 I've seen some people post he should be criminally charged or investigated for taking a knee at this point.
00:05:08.000 His argument, of course, he came outside, oh, he's trying to run the clock down.
00:05:10.000 Run the clock down at nine minutes?
00:05:13.000 This seems very strange.
00:05:15.000 And with all the sports gambling and weird poker gambling, you know, mafia stuff we've heard of the past year or so, there's a lot of people who are just like, look, it happens.
00:05:25.000 And we know they're doing it. 1.00
00:05:26.000 That being said, you have to be pretty, pretty stupid to try and do that now. 1.00
00:05:30.000 So we're going to talk about that and everything else. 1.00
00:05:33.000 Joining us tonight to talk about that and so much more is Ed Martin.
00:05:37.000 Good to be with you, Tim.
00:05:38.000 Thank you.
00:05:38.000 That's a lot to cover.
00:05:39.000 That's a range.
00:05:41.000 I don't know where to start.
00:05:43.000 I'm worried about the asteroid right now.
00:05:44.000 You know, I got to.
00:05:45.000 I mean, that's the most fun story.
00:05:46.000 Yeah, that's it.
00:05:46.000 It makes everything go away.
00:05:48.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:05:48.000 It's easier.
00:05:50.000 But you actually have experience as it relates to some of the sports betting stuff, too.
00:05:53.000 Yeah, you know, I was just telling the story.
00:05:54.000 I met the guy, Jon Tay Porter, who is from Mizzou, from Missouri, and he was jammed on this gambling.
00:06:02.000 And he came in, I met with him, and we were talking about the issue.
00:06:06.000 And it is extraordinary.
00:06:07.000 And here's the thing his description to me was it's everywhere.
00:06:11.000 In other words, in the NBA, these guys are all gambling in all kinds of ways.
00:06:16.000 And then, so then you just say to yourself, okay, are they just gambling on things that they care about?
00:06:20.000 Or are they gambling on stuff that suddenly somebody can have an impact?
00:06:23.000 Because some of those bets, as you know, are like how many minutes you'll play in a quarter of an NBA game.
00:06:29.000 Yeah.
00:06:29.000 So if you go in, and this is what he admitted to, you go into a quarter and you immediately say, oh, my back hurts and they take you out, you've now.
00:06:36.000 Controlled what you did in that quarter, which somebody's betting on, and you've got some friend or third party who's like, Don't play more than it's a minute now.
00:06:44.000 In the third quarter, play you know, your performance has to be below three points.
00:06:48.000 So you get in, my hamstring hurts, and you're out.
00:06:51.000 So I, and look, you say that and you say, Oh, well, the NBA, what do those guys like?
00:06:55.000 Now realize that the budget for these football college football teams are 30 or 40 or million dollars.
00:07:02.000 There's 18 year old kids with a million dollars in their pocket, and you don't think that they're gambling.
00:07:07.000 So it's a wild world, and yeah, I still don't understand.
00:07:10.000 You played the clip.
00:07:11.000 Trevor Lawrence, it's such a weird way to stop.
00:07:14.000 Something's going on in his head that we don't know yet.
00:07:17.000 It has to be.
00:07:18.000 I saw one theory they said that he was supposed to get tackled because that was the script.
00:07:23.000 But because the guy missed, he took a knee instead.
00:07:25.000 Like, what do I do?
00:07:26.000 But we'll get into it.
00:07:27.000 Hey, what are you currently working on?
00:07:28.000 What were you doing before?
00:07:29.000 Where are you at now?
00:07:30.000 Well, so I was in the Trump administration from day one.
00:07:33.000 In fact, it's a great story I love to tell.
00:07:35.000 I was supposed to be chief of staff at OMB.
00:07:38.000 And I got a phone call on Saturday night before Trump was sworn in on Monday.
00:07:42.000 And I was told, can you come down to the old Trump Hotel?
00:07:45.000 So I've hired everybody for OMB.
00:07:48.000 I worked with the Doge guys because they were sort of on the edges of OMB.
00:07:52.000 And Russ Vogt is the OMB chair, the director.
00:07:55.000 And I go down on Sunday morning, the day before Trump's sworn in, I go around the corner and sitting at a table is Sergio Gore and Charlie Kirk.
00:08:05.000 And they say, hey, you once said you wanted to be the U.S. attorney in D.C., that guy that was supposed to take that job didn't take it.
00:08:13.000 And the president elect wants someone to do that job, would you switch over?
00:08:17.000 And I said, well, I got to call Russ and make sure he's okay with it.
00:08:20.000 Russ is going to say whatever the president wants.
00:08:22.000 So I switched over that.
00:08:24.000 And the next day, we didn't know this. 0.97
00:08:25.000 The next day, the president pardoned all the January 6ers, right? 0.98
00:08:29.000 I had been hoping for that, but I didn't think actually it was going to happen. 1.00
00:08:32.000 So, anyways, off to the races. 0.76
00:08:34.000 So, for four months, I was a U.S. attorney in D.C., which was an unbelievable job.
00:08:38.000 Tons of power, tons of opportunity to do good.
00:08:41.000 I was taken, and we were talking earlier, or I heard Crowder talking about DEI.
00:08:46.000 I took on Georgetown Law when they were still doing DEI stuff publicly, Schumer, all kinds of things.
00:08:52.000 And then for four months I did that.
00:08:53.000 Then I got blocked by Tom Tillis, which I could tell you the story of the last meeting with Tom Tillis.
00:08:58.000 It haunts me to this day.
00:09:00.000 Haunting, actually.
00:09:01.000 Legit haunting.
00:09:02.000 I could tell later or whatever.
00:09:04.000 And then I was moved over because I wasn't confirmed.
00:09:06.000 The president was not going to tolerate that.
00:09:07.000 So he made me pardon attorney and the associate deputy attorney general for the weaponization group.
00:09:14.000 So all of a sudden I got this huge docket.
00:09:16.000 But not a lot of automatic power.
00:09:18.000 Both of those jobs are kind of like dig into it and then make an argument to other people about prosecuting weaponization or pardoning.
00:09:25.000 That's the president's prerogative.
00:09:27.000 But very interesting.
00:09:28.000 And I did a lot of work for the president and for what his priorities were.
00:09:32.000 And it was great.
00:09:33.000 But I left about a month ago.
00:09:34.000 I'm out on my own.
00:09:35.000 I'm working with Russ Vogt's old shop, the Center for Renewing America.
00:09:39.000 I'm also practicing law, which I'm enjoying.
00:09:42.000 I'm a lawyer.
00:09:43.000 But I'm getting ready.
00:09:44.000 We were talking offline.
00:09:46.000 I was on a media blackout.
00:09:48.000 The DOJ doesn't really value guys and gals out there ripping in the media.
00:09:53.000 So, I was really quiet and it made me crazy after a while because this is too important to make clear what's at stake and what's going on.
00:10:02.000 And look, we have not done enough in DOJ, fine, but we've done a hell of a lot.
00:10:07.000 And I want to talk about that.
00:10:08.000 And one big thing we can talk about too is Second Amendment stuff, which we made progress.
00:10:12.000 We made progress like nobody's done it in history.
00:10:15.000 And Trump did it, and Todd Blanch green lighted everything I was trying to do, and we did it.
00:10:20.000 So, it's good to be out, to be in the fight a little differently.
00:10:24.000 We've got a lot to fight about, so it's important.
00:10:26.000 We definitely got to get into all of it.
00:10:27.000 So thanks for hanging out.
00:10:28.000 It's going to be fun.
00:10:28.000 We got the boys.
00:10:29.000 Yeah, what's going on, Tate Brown?
00:10:31.000 You're holding it down.
00:10:32.000 We got the eagle here.
00:10:32.000 I'm super excited.
00:10:33.000 He's one of the best.
00:10:34.000 One of the best.
00:10:35.000 We got a good show, Phil.
00:10:36.000 I'm excited.
00:10:37.000 It's going to be good.
00:10:37.000 I'm excited.
00:10:38.000 Good to see you, Carter.
00:10:39.000 Hey, you too, Phil.
00:10:40.000 And yeah, let's get into it.
00:10:41.000 We've got a lot to talk about.
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00:12:03.000 Let's jump into the news.
00:12:04.000 We've got this from the Hill.
00:12:06.000 Education Department formally rescinds Title IX protections for LGBTQ students.
00:12:12.000 The Education Department announced Monday it has formally rescinded the Biden era Title IX interpretation that gave sex based discrimination protections to students based on their orientation and gender identity.
00:12:25.000 Schools must now go back to the code as it was held under the previous Trump administration in 2020, which they say will protect women's sports.
00:12:33.000 Quote.
00:12:34.000 Thanks to today's action, the published Title IX regulation faithfully reflects court orders and congressional intent.
00:12:40.000 Reducing confusion for parents, students, and educational institutions, we will continue to relentlessly champion equal opportunity for all Americans and hold accountable any school or college that violates the rights and privacy of or athletic opportunities for our women and girls, Education Secretary Linda McMahon said.
00:12:57.000 Now, we do have another story that actually broke in July and for some reason was just getting picked up today.
00:13:03.000 In fact, I don't even think we noticed it.
00:13:05.000 I actually vaguely remember it.
00:13:07.000 Trump is banning federal student loans for worthless college degrees. 0.98
00:13:12.000 These two stories, my friends, this is Trump launching a nuclear bomb in the culture war against the hive of scum and villainy that is woke universities. 0.96
00:13:23.000 Let me explain how massive this story is. 0.94
00:13:26.000 Both of these stories. 1.00
00:13:28.000 You've got tons of worthless humanities degrees, feminist interpretive dance. 1.00
00:13:33.000 I'm kidding, but you get the point. 1.00
00:13:36.000 They will not have funding for these anymore.
00:13:39.000 Got a professor who wants to teach critical race theory?
00:13:42.000 Unfortunately, you can't get a job in critical race theory, so you can't get a loan for it.
00:13:48.000 So the universities won't have any funding for it.
00:13:51.000 Thus, these classes will start to disappear.
00:13:54.000 People will stop attending them, and the universities will start to revert back from whence they came.
00:14:00.000 Now, this is exactly what we've been asking for for a long time.
00:14:03.000 This is the kind of culture war victory that I've demanded, nay, expected, and I'm glad to see it.
00:14:09.000 Now, the economy is not doing too great.
00:14:10.000 Gas is really expensive.
00:14:11.000 A war is on.
00:14:12.000 I don't know how much this moves the needle, but I'm going to give praise what praise is due because this is what I voted for.
00:14:18.000 Right now, you got a lot of prominent conservative personalities saying, yes, things aren't going great.
00:14:24.000 Yes, the Republicans haven't utilized the power they could, but the culture war victories we've gotten have been fantastic.
00:14:31.000 And Democrats, when they get in, are going to go nuclear in the opposite direction.
00:14:35.000 So I'm super excited for this.
00:14:37.000 This is tremendous news.
00:14:38.000 I'm curious what the panel thinks.
00:14:40.000 Well, I mean, to your point about should the Democrats, you know, get power, whether they get the office of the president in 28 or not, they're going to do everything they can to stymie the The administration.
00:14:54.000 Now, obviously, this is executive order stuff.
00:14:56.000 This is stuff that Trump's going to have been, you know, the largest portion of his successes have been through executive order.
00:15:04.000 And he's actually done a lot of stuff.
00:15:05.000 I know there's a lot of people that are unhappy with him, unhappy with some of the policies that he's actually gone through with.
00:15:12.000 But the majority of things that people were looking for that actually have been achieved, it's all executive order and all in the bureaucracy.
00:15:21.000 So, I mean, I would love to see more.
00:15:23.000 Obviously, this is a good thing.
00:15:25.000 Like Tim said, the humanities departments are doomed now.
00:15:29.000 But yeah, just more of this.
00:15:32.000 But you know, again, I hate to be back to Crowder.
00:15:34.000 We were watching Crowder a while ago and he's talking, and the Harvard law school dean was complaining, or professor was complaining that the government was cutting off, without due process, the money that they were getting from the government was giving to Harvard.
00:15:48.000 And my thing is, why do we have a system where we've created this massive payment scam?
00:15:54.000 It's just like the welfare programs, it's just like other things where these student loans are just propping up schools that make up Degrees.
00:16:01.000 And as you said, these two stories come together, Tim, because Title IX was created in 1972.
00:16:06.000 And it was in the era where they were trying to say, give women some protection in higher ed, in sports, in other opportunities.
00:16:15.000 And it became the vehicle.
00:16:17.000 And I know this intimately because I worked with Phyllis Schlafly, the late Phyllis Schlafly, who fought against the ERA.
00:16:22.000 Title IX became the way that the camel under the tent, because they went in and they used it every time they wanted to the left to do all this kinds of crazy stuff.
00:16:32.000 And it culminated.
00:16:33.000 With this trend, the gender surgery and gender affirming and all this politically woke stuff.
00:16:39.000 But it's been going on for a very long time.
00:16:42.000 And the point here is the pendulum needs to not just stop some of this stuff, it needs to swing back, in my opinion, and back harder than we've ever seen.
00:16:51.000 I think this is progress.
00:16:53.000 And as you put them together, Tim, they work as a way to say, hey, we got to stop these universities.
00:16:58.000 But man, there's a lot of other aspects of these laws that are dragging down our entire culture, not only higher ed.
00:17:06.000 Well, yeah, I mean, Title IX needs to go because I went to a Big East school and I was the reason we couldn't have a football team.
00:17:10.000 Exactly.
00:17:11.000 What, really?
00:17:12.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:17:12.000 Yeah, we had like women's field hockey. 1.00
00:17:13.000 It was like those random sports for women because they couldn't have football. 1.00
00:17:17.000 No, no, but 60 male scholarships. 1.00
00:17:18.000 Here's what you had to do every male scholarship has to be paired with a female.
00:17:21.000 So you have 100 male scholarships for football, then you got to have a swim team, a lacrosse team, girls' team.
00:17:26.000 Girls, girls, girls.
00:17:27.000 That's why across the country they've shut down wrestling programs. 0.99
00:17:30.000 Remember this? 0.99
00:17:31.000 They shut down wrestling programs because they couldn't afford 25 more guys because they had to do girls' scholarships.
00:17:37.000 And you're looking around going, how many. 1.00
00:17:39.000 Women's scholarships.
00:17:40.000 Because remember, you can have a soccer team, men's and women's are the same size, but nothing's like a football team in terms of scholarships. 0.51
00:17:46.000 And then they went crazy with the law and said every dollar has to match, not just scholarships. 0.52
00:17:50.000 So if you have a weight room for the men, it has to be matched by the size of the weight room for the women.
00:17:56.000 This is fascinating because Charlie Kirk had spoken out against the Civil Rights Act, highlighting specifically these things that the intention is good, but the output was bad.
00:18:04.000 And then, of course, the left manipulates the context, they lie about the context as to what he was saying and say he wanted to get rid of civil rights.
00:18:11.000 What he was saying was we all agree it was bad that people were being discriminated against.
00:18:15.000 Like they wanted to go to a grocery store, they wanted to go to the movies. 0.62
00:18:17.000 But the idea now, as you guys are pointing out, That you can't have a men's football team because women don't want to play football.
00:18:26.000 Now, this makes no sense.
00:18:29.000 So, I remember there was a lawsuit in the UC system.
00:18:34.000 There was like a women's only computer club.
00:18:37.000 Someone filed a lawsuit saying that violates Title IX.
00:18:40.000 That would be Title IX, I believe.
00:18:41.000 Title IX, yeah.
00:18:43.000 And they lost the suit.
00:18:44.000 The courts ruled that because there was a computer program available to men, they could do a women's only. 0.99
00:18:50.000 Right. 1.00
00:18:52.000 You simultaneously say we can't do regular football because there's no women on it. 1.00
00:18:56.000 Even if it's open to women, there's got to be a women's team on the other side. 1.00
00:18:59.000 But then women can have a woman only computer club as long as there's a general computer club for men. 1.00
00:19:06.000 They're playing it both ways in the courts. 1.00
00:19:08.000 Right.
00:19:09.000 We can't function.
00:19:09.000 Exactly.
00:19:10.000 But look, this is the old.
00:19:11.000 I don't know if you guys are a fan of Eric Hoffer, the old Hoffer's line that every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and degenerates into a racket.
00:19:21.000 We're in the racket stage.
00:19:22.000 The racket stage is you take Title IX.
00:19:25.000 1972, and you say, Hey, we got to do better at protecting women.
00:19:28.000 Okay, I don't know, maybe not a bad idea.
00:19:31.000 Then it became a business where people made money off of that.
00:19:34.000 And now it's a racket where they just come up with a pretext and they do things like gender affirmation and all these other things.
00:19:40.000 And by the way, I thought you were going to say something else.
00:19:43.000 I thought nobody was supposed to have a gender. 0.96
00:19:45.000 You were supposed to just say what you want. 0.96
00:19:47.000 So what does it matter?
00:19:48.000 Just go fluid and it shouldn't be a problem.
00:19:50.000 But these kinds of changes, to your point about Trump, Trump does these things consistently across his worldview thing.
00:19:58.000 That is very different.
00:19:59.000 Most Republicans don't do this because Laura Bush was not going to let George W. Bush do that because she played softball growing up.
00:20:07.000 I don't know, I'm just making it up.
00:20:08.000 But that's the way.
00:20:10.000 John McCain was not going to do it because his wife was really good at basketball when she was a kid, and we don't want to change the rules.
00:20:16.000 That's the problem with the Republicans when in power, and Trump keeps doing this stuff.
00:20:22.000 Yeah, well, and people, it's with the Breitbart quote, politics is downstream from culture.
00:20:27.000 But there's some instances where culture is downstream from politics, and this is one of them where Title IX.
00:20:32.000 Kind of culturally institutionalized this idea of gender parity. 1.00
00:20:35.000 Like, okay, women should be able to do exactly what a man can do.
00:20:38.000 Like, evidence for this in sports would be U.S. soccer, right? 0.98
00:20:41.000 The U.S. Soccer Federation that is in charge of the men's team and the women's team.
00:20:45.000 And the women's team said everything needs to be equal, the paychecks, et cetera.
00:20:49.000 This applied to the coach.
00:20:50.000 So the men's team now is an opening for their coaching slot.
00:20:53.000 And there's a really world class coach, Mauricio Pacchettino.
00:20:55.000 And he's like, I want to coach your team.
00:20:57.000 Problem the max salary they get offered is like a drop in the bucket compared to what he wanted. 0.56
00:21:02.000 Because they had to match what the women's coach was being paid, which is just never going to happen.
00:21:05.000 The Men's World Cup generates, you know, it's probably to the pie or something. 0.54
00:21:10.000 Like the order of money the Men's World Cup makes is, you know, completely dwarfs the Women's World Cup.
00:21:15.000 So instead, like the U.S. soccer had to go and knock on a bunch of billionaires' doors and say, just write this off, donate to our program, we'll get a good men's coach.
00:21:22.000 So it's like institutionalized, even in an organization like U.S. soccer, which has no obligations under Title IX to do so, they are now basically forced to do so because of this cultural mindset that is because of Title IX.
00:21:33.000 Did you guys see, we talked about it last week.
00:21:36.000 Dressmaker, the video game?
00:21:37.000 Yeah. 0.96
00:21:38.000 So they spend all this money. 1.00
00:21:40.000 These feminists get into these game studios and they're like, okay, so we're making a World War I battlefield game. 1.00
00:21:47.000 We want women to play video games, so we're going to make the main character a purple haired female amputee. 1.00
00:21:54.000 And everyone hated it because women don't want to go to World War I.
00:21:58.000 And somebody made a dressmaker simulator where all you do is make dresses and then your customers give you one to five stars, and women are drooling over it.
00:22:08.000 They love it.
00:22:10.000 Men and women are completely different. 1.00
00:22:12.000 And now we've built this system where we are trying to get women to do things they don't want to do and people don't want to watch. 0.99
00:22:20.000 I bring this up because there are things that people, generally men and women, like about men. 0.70
00:22:26.000 They want to see the most brutish of dudes do the most brutish of physical feats.
00:22:31.000 That's what they want to see.
00:22:33.000 Maybe it's boxing.
00:22:34.000 They want to see a dude bust another dude up, leave him bloody, and then they're both standing there covered in blood and sweat.
00:22:40.000 Everyone loves UFC.
00:22:42.000 And you know what? 1.00
00:22:43.000 Women's fighting, not so bad. 1.00
00:22:45.000 People like that too, but you know, eh. 1.00
00:22:47.000 Let me tell you about UFC.
00:22:49.000 The guys that you see.
00:22:51.000 Do you ever see like a regular guy walking around holding up round sign?
00:22:58.000 What about a big tittied, beautiful woman? 0.75
00:23:01.000 The reason why is men and women like these things. 1.00
00:23:05.000 They make these movies. 1.00
00:23:05.000 Women do. 1.00
00:23:07.000 Women don't want to see a movie where a woman is a superhero, they want to see a movie where a woman is the subject of desire from the greatest man.
00:23:15.000 So, we had things that women could do that people really enjoyed watching and men could do, and they're trying to invert it for some reason in some weird experiment that doesn't work.
00:23:27.000 It just doesn't work.
00:23:28.000 Okay. 0.80
00:23:29.000 Women, James Bond, why did men and women love to go see it?
00:23:33.000 Because men wanted to be him and women wanted to be with him.
00:23:36.000 The male fantasy is that you're the guy smoking the cigar and you flick it into the, you know, the gasoline vapors or whatever, and the bad guy goes, I'll get you gone.
00:23:45.000 You stop the villain from destroying the world.
00:23:47.000 And the female power fantasy was that the guy that everybody loved said, You're my choice. 0.72
00:23:53.000 And she loved that. 0.82
00:23:55.000 And now they're doing whatever all this nonsense is.
00:23:58.000 But you know what?
00:24:00.000 Stop blathering on about it.
00:24:02.000 Trump, the administration, has nuked the hive, the root system.
00:24:09.000 If this sticks and we win, if we hold for a few years, we can cleanse our universities of this social contagion.
00:24:18.000 Yeah, I don't have a lot of faith that it's going to hold for a few years because, again, I think that anything that Donald Trump does through executive action, the next president could undo if they were a Democrat.
00:24:29.000 I mean, I would love to see, you know, a JD Vance or a Marco Rubio or some other unnamed person that's a Republican, conservative, whatever you want to call him, sit in the Oval Office again.
00:24:45.000 Whether that happens or not is going to have us, you know, is going to really be the key as to whether or not these.
00:24:50.000 Policies can stick around long enough to have serious impact, right?
00:24:55.000 Because that's really what we're trying to do, or what he's trying to do here.
00:24:58.000 He's trying to roll back not just an administration or two, he's trying to roll back 60 years of progressive policy.
00:25:07.000 Because whether or not people want to admit it, George Bush had a lot of progressive policies.
00:25:12.000 Even Ronald Reagan had some policies that were considered.
00:25:15.000 I mean, he gave amnesty.
00:25:16.000 Nixon, too.
00:25:17.000 Yeah, Nixon as well.
00:25:18.000 So, I mean, you're talking about.
00:25:21.000 Decades and decades and decades of policies that were moving the country to the left.
00:25:27.000 And Donald Trump is the first president that, you know, in the past 70 years or 80 years, that is actually trying to move the needle back.
00:25:37.000 Not just trying to say, hold up there, Democrats, or stop and do what the Democrats would do, but slower.
00:25:44.000 He's actually trying to move it back.
00:25:46.000 And there's a lot of people that are going to be giving me crap about saying this, but it's true.
00:25:50.000 He's the only president that's ever significantly decreased the number of bureaucrats in D.C.
00:25:57.000 And that actually did happen as much as people don't want to admit it.
00:26:00.000 Or don't want to say that he did.
00:26:01.000 They don't want to give him credit because they're mad about this issue or that issue.
00:26:05.000 Most of the time, they tend to be mad about the Iran war.
00:26:09.000 But he's the only president that's actually started to move the needle back to the right.
00:26:13.000 And if he had another Congress that worked with him, he'd be even more successful because this stuff could be codified into law as opposed to just executive action.
00:26:23.000 But one thing about what you said that's so important is that Trump does these things that affect money, especially.
00:26:29.000 Like USAID, the attack on USAID took the money off the table.
00:26:33.000 It didn't take more than a month or two.
00:26:35.000 For people to have to adjust their life.
00:26:37.000 People getting six figure salaries in the suburbs of DC complaining about it.
00:26:41.000 Here's the thing about this if you pull back on these degrees and the loans for these silly degrees, it'll only take six months for these schools to go belly up, to your point. 0.86
00:26:51.000 You know, some of these small schools that are running through mills of these really stupid courses, as Tim said earlier, people aren't going to take those courses because they can see what's coming. 0.89
00:27:01.000 That's going to have a huge effect. 0.98
00:27:04.000 This is one of the reasons.
00:27:05.000 They don't have the money for it.
00:27:06.000 Right.
00:27:06.000 They don't have the money.
00:27:06.000 But that's one of the reasons why, like, remember, we're going to.
00:27:08.000 Why did we give the Chinese communists all those visas for the students? 0.95
00:27:12.000 300,000 students. 0.82
00:27:14.000 And the answer is because Harvard wanted the money.
00:27:17.000 And USC wanted the money. 0.85
00:27:19.000 And they wanted cash payments from the Chinese communist parents sending their kids to the schools. 0.91
00:27:24.000 You take that money away, and those schools look, in every city now, you have schools going under.
00:27:29.000 St. Louis is where I'm from.
00:27:31.000 Fonbonne University has been around for 80 years, 100 years, totally out of business now.
00:27:35.000 Because why?
00:27:36.000 Because they had like 100 of their cash paying students from Qatar or somewhere in the Middle East.
00:27:42.000 And they stopped coming, and the school had a hole in their budget they couldn't fill. 1.00
00:27:46.000 And my point is good.
00:27:47.000 The business model can't sustain this stuff if you're not teaching something that's valuable for the kids.
00:27:53.000 There's one more point that I want to make.
00:27:54.000 This is something that I've been harping on for a long time all of the woke stuff that people complain about for the past 15 years, it all has its genesis in college.
00:28:05.000 Yes.
00:28:06.000 Right? 0.81
00:28:06.000 There was a time where people were saying, look, these kids with their silly ideas, they're going to get out into the real world and they're going to get smacked with reality, and then we don't have to worry about it. 0.81
00:28:16.000 But the fact of the matter is, they got out into the real world and they changed the culture at so many different companies, so many different big Fortune 500 companies.
00:28:27.000 They got into the HR departments and they started firing people for the smallest missteps and hiring people that shared their worldview.
00:28:35.000 And they managed to seriously mess with the culture of the United States.
00:28:40.000 And getting this kind of stuff out of schools actually can have really significant and dramatic downstream effects.
00:28:47.000 You get a, you know, I don't know, five, six, seven years of graduating classes that are not indoctrinated with this kind of stuff.
00:28:56.000 Because the humanities departments, the stuff that they learn, it doesn't stay in the humanities departments.
00:29:00.000 It starts infecting the rest of the college.
00:29:03.000 It starts getting into even the hard sciences.
00:29:05.000 And that's where you hear people trying to say things like two plus two equals five and all kinds of crazy nonsense that everyone knows is not true.
00:29:14.000 But they have to say this kind of stuff because the entire culture at the school is making a demand of it.
00:29:21.000 We need to.
00:29:22.000 I always like to pull this stuff up because there's a lot of people that just literally do not believe it because they don't pay attention.
00:29:27.000 Popular Mechanics literally wrote this not even one year ago why some people think two plus two equals five and why they're right.
00:29:34.000 No, they're not.
00:29:35.000 They're not right.
00:29:36.000 This is a lie.
00:29:37.000 This is a cult.
00:29:38.000 If you think two plus two equals five, you're in a cult. 1.00
00:29:40.000 You are with dangerous, stupid people. 1.00
00:29:44.000 They are lying to you, okay? 1.00
00:29:46.000 Using an argument like they say, well, what if it's 2.5?
00:29:52.000 Three plus 2.3.
00:29:55.000 Well, those both round down to two, but when you add them together, you get 4.6, which rounds up to five.
00:30:00.000 Therefore, no, now you're arguing 2.3 plus 2.3.
00:30:05.000 We define those in absolute terms.
00:30:08.000 This is the insanity you get that they are teaching your kids when they go to these schools.
00:30:13.000 So good on the Trump admin for saying enough.
00:30:17.000 This, I got to tell you, they're not teaching in China.
00:30:20.000 A communist country is not telling their kids two plus two equals five.
00:30:20.000 Nope.
00:30:23.000 That's because this is a demoralization. 0.92
00:30:26.000 Effort and China already did that in the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution back in the 60s. 0.93
00:30:32.000 Well, the machine is trying to demoralize all of us because they want it's, you know, it's not just China, but it's largely China. 0.92
00:30:32.000 Yep. 0.92
00:30:42.000 The easiest way to explain what's going on China is an adversary.
00:30:45.000 They've already publicly stated the U.S. is in decline and not to resist that decline. 0.71
00:30:50.000 They are actively funding these things, pushing our politicians towards it.
00:30:54.000 They are manipulating our system.
00:30:56.000 Trump is resisting back.
00:30:58.000 Doesn't mean he's perfect.
00:31:00.000 We'll see where things go moving forward.
00:31:02.000 But that being said, let's jump to the important story in that case.
00:31:05.000 From Mediaite, the levy has been breached.
00:31:08.000 CNN data guru declares blue wave is coming over the wall.
00:31:13.000 The data we've got so far shows Democrats are expected to sweep.
00:31:17.000 It's not so good for Trump and the GOP.
00:31:20.000 The polls are all showing it.
00:31:21.000 Trump's economic approval rating in 2026 is at 37%.
00:31:25.000 In 2018, when Republicans lost the midterms, it was at 77%.
00:31:30.000 I think it's fair to say most people don't care about foreign policy and don't know much about the war with Iran, but its after effects are hitting people because gas is over four bucks and we're out in West Virginia and diesel is 650.
00:31:43.000 People can feel the heat.
00:31:45.000 The question is, what are the Republicans even doing about it or have they resigned to defeat?
00:31:53.000 I don't know what they're doing about it.
00:31:55.000 I do know that there was a.
00:31:58.000 I saw someone had tweeted, I retweeted it, about messaging and.
00:32:03.000 Not that messaging is going to fix anything, but the places that are borderline, the congresspeople that are borderline that could possibly win, they really do need to make sure that they have the messaging right.
00:32:19.000 But there's a lot of places where I don't know that there's anything that's going to happen that's going to fix anything unless gas prices drop by like.
00:32:28.000 I'll rise in defense of the grand old party.
00:32:30.000 I mean, look, and election cycles.
00:32:33.000 Gravity means that the apple falls from the tree down to the ground.
00:32:35.000 That's what happens.
00:32:37.000 It also means generally that the presidential party in the president in the White House loses in the midterm.
00:32:42.000 So gravity is gravity, and it usually happens.
00:32:44.000 The problem with that right now, first of all, whenever CNN is pushing something, and I admit on this one, it's economic numbers, it's not quite the same as some of the push polls they push.
00:32:53.000 But it really is going to come down to about 26 seats, House seats, and three or four Senate seats.
00:32:59.000 And there are fundamentals to those things that you have to figure out.
00:33:03.000 And one of them is who's got money, and the other one is who the candidates are.
00:33:07.000 So, if you look at these races one by one across places like down in Virginia, down in Norfolk, that I think it's Virginia 2, they started to do early voting.
00:33:16.000 And the report, I don't have this confirmed, I'm just going to tell you how you look at these things, is that the city, the urban votes, vote totals are lower than they expected.
00:33:26.000 In other words, there's not enthusiasm in that district for the Democrat, which is what they need to overcome the.
00:33:34.000 So, Republicans have the headwinds, and the Democrats seem to have something at their back.
00:33:39.000 But the problem is, it's only in 26 races, and the Republicans definitely have a lot more money.
00:33:44.000 And money can't buy you races, but it can get close in a lot of them, and it can change the dynamic.
00:33:49.000 Now, it's starting to feel late.
00:33:51.000 Things are starting to break.
00:33:52.000 But again, it's head to head.
00:33:53.000 And I think right now, even the Democrats that say it's going to be a wave are saying they end up three, four, five up in the House.
00:34:01.000 No one thinks they can get to 20.
00:34:03.000 And by the way, when Tallerico in Texas is on TV all weekend long begging for debates, if you've ever run a race, Or been a candidate, you know that you ask for debates when you're losing.
00:34:17.000 You desperately want any attention you can get.
00:34:20.000 You want to get out on the TVs.
00:34:22.000 And Tallarico is not winning.
00:34:24.000 If he was winning, he would not want to do a debate where Ken Paxton would say, Do you really believe X or Y, these crazy quotes that Tallarico's pastor said?
00:34:31.000 So, you know, the doom and gloom in places like Texas, mostly I believe it's because the Republicans that didn't want Paxton to win are weighing in.
00:34:41.000 So I think it's not great.
00:34:43.000 Gravity is gravity, but I think it's better than people realize.
00:34:46.000 And I just don't believe any of this doom and gloom.
00:34:48.000 You know, Tim, we're going to get around to it.
00:34:50.000 The Second Amendment, the voters that are energized, they call them low propensity voters for the Republicans, conservatives.
00:34:57.000 There's a bunch of them in categories that are fired up.
00:35:00.000 Now, will they get out to vote?
00:35:01.000 That's the hard part, but I think it's going to be done.
00:35:04.000 You know, voters are definitely very happy with what has been going on.
00:35:08.000 I'll say that.
00:35:09.000 I actually, I guess for us out here in West Virginia, particularly in our district, we don't really need to.
00:35:17.000 We're definitely going to, but Riley Moore is our guy.
00:35:19.000 He's going to win.
00:35:20.000 He's the best, one of the best.
00:35:22.000 You know, I got to give a shout out to Riley.
00:35:24.000 He does not waste his time on social media nonsense.
00:35:29.000 He's not doing the AOC style media nonsense.
00:35:33.000 He's actually fairly aggressive on a lot of the issues that we all care about here in West Virginia.
00:35:38.000 And so we're incredibly lucky because not everybody can say that.
00:35:42.000 I'm just saying that because it's like we're good here.
00:35:46.000 You know, this is West Virginia.
00:35:48.000 But there's places in Texas, there's places in Florida where we're seeing Democrats get an edge.
00:35:53.000 I'm going to go and say this.
00:35:54.000 I largely agree with you.
00:35:55.000 I think when it comes to the doom and gloom about whether or not Democrats are going to win and beat the Republicans, I think it would be silly not to point out that people are, Trump's lost a lot of people.
00:36:05.000 Like libertarians, that's a couple percentage points.
00:36:09.000 There's a lot of moderates, they do not like the war stuff.
00:36:12.000 And a lot of people have shifted heavily because of Israel's involvement, because of the start of the war, or I should say last year as well.
00:36:20.000 And I think these are all negative impacts.
00:36:22.000 The economy is typically the principal issue.
00:36:24.000 But that being said, we are in a new world. 1.00
00:36:27.000 And I think it's fair to say it's the economy, stupid. 0.99
00:36:30.000 We guys got to give a shout out to that old man, that cratchy old Democrat, but it's fine. 1.00
00:36:33.000 It's fine. 0.53
00:36:34.000 It's a good quote.
00:36:36.000 However, right now, everybody lives in a niche political sphere.
00:36:41.000 So there are people who don't even know gas is $4 because the only thing they see when they go online is Israel. 0.53
00:36:47.000 There are people that go online and see nothing but unarmed black men being shot.
00:36:52.000 The way they're voting is changing from the way it used to be. 0.94
00:36:56.000 Used to be primarily that people went to the gas station and said, okay, this is nuts.
00:37:00.000 But now that young people don't own cars, not that they're all voting anyway, but for young people, they're largely persuaded by their social media algorithm.
00:37:09.000 So Trump's strategy has been, and not just Trump, but Republicans, shift to culture war issues we can win on.
00:37:15.000 Like the trans debate, for instance, Title IX stuff.
00:37:17.000 This is why they're making these moves. 0.53
00:37:19.000 They want James Tellerico to have to answer for all the weird, insane things he said in the past several years, and they want to shift away from economics.
00:37:28.000 I'll give you guys the big secret.
00:37:32.000 If I make a video on YouTube talking economics, nobody wants to watch it.
00:37:37.000 That says something moving into November.
00:37:40.000 Again, we actually have had stories pulled up.
00:37:43.000 We've got some stories pulled up talking about housing.
00:37:46.000 And I talked earlier today, boomers on average have a net worth of $1.6 million.
00:37:52.000 It doesn't move the needle for the average person to talk about money this way.
00:37:57.000 People care about niche projects, interests, et cetera.
00:38:02.000 The Republicans are trying to recenter around that.
00:38:05.000 So I'm just saying this.
00:38:07.000 I do think Republicans are in a tight spot.
00:38:10.000 Historically, it makes a lot of sense.
00:38:11.000 But I also want to stress I'm not going to sit here and just trust CNN when they come out every single day saying, you can't lose, give up, you can't lose.
00:38:20.000 I mean, I'm sorry, you can't win, give up, you can't win.
00:38:23.000 Right.
00:38:24.000 Yeah.
00:38:25.000 I mean, because there's been some interesting things like the Tyler Rico race. 0.93
00:38:28.000 I think a lot of that can be attributed to Paxton, you know, no offense to Paxton, but kind of coming out the gates a little slow, right?
00:38:34.000 Like he hasn't fully kicked off, like, you know, a full blown campaign.
00:38:38.000 There's been some reporting on this.
00:38:40.000 And I think a lot of this isn't so much to do with him as more, as you pointed out, kind of the Senate Republicans weren't too happy about how that all went down.
00:38:47.000 Because there was some reporting that there's kind of this like Mexican standoff between the Trump admin and the Senate Republicans, like, okay, whose responsibility is it to fund the Paxton race?
00:38:55.000 So I think Texas probably comes back to the Republicans as the camp.
00:39:00.000 I mean, again, the hour is a little, you know, getting a little late here, but as that kind of kicks into full swing.
00:39:03.000 Because I'm getting Tallarico ads out here in Virginia.
00:39:06.000 And, you know, I haven't been a registered voter in Texas.
00:39:08.000 Five years, and I'm still getting hit for ads for Talarico here.
00:39:13.000 There's like a profile on you at these companies.
00:39:15.000 Yeah.
00:39:15.000 So the fact that he's dumping enough money to say anyone that has any vague link to Texas push some ads his way, I think, to your point, does kind of illustrate the situation he's in.
00:39:24.000 I think the interesting race is Michigan, especially because Michigan is in this weird situation where they have uniquely high gas prices for the region.
00:39:33.000 Michigan has pretty expensive fuel right now.
00:39:36.000 And then additionally, they're having these trade issues.
00:39:38.000 A lot of these voters in the Detroit area are having these trade issues with Canada.
00:39:41.000 This is what I've Again, I've seen some people that are reporting from how voters are feeling on the ground.
00:39:45.000 And a lot of them are like, I don't know.
00:39:47.000 We're kind of in the transit industry, all this traffic coming down through Canada.
00:39:51.000 They're not too happy about that.
00:39:52.000 So it's kind of funny how Mike Rogers is in this position where some of the things that the Republicans aren't even necessarily responsible for, it's a referendum on his party, even though, once again, the Canada situation, even the gas, the gas is uniquely high in Michigan due to some Whitmer policies.
00:40:09.000 But he's having to answer it because his party's.
00:40:12.000 Holding the executive.
00:40:13.000 I want to grab this super chat from S. Bud Bud, one of our members.
00:40:17.000 He says, Halt diesel exports, make diesel basically free till the midterms and ride the wave.
00:40:23.000 He's not wrong.
00:40:24.000 I mean, if Trump came out and said we're halting the exports, dropping the price significantly, if Trump did any kind of tax release or rebate in the short term with a promise of more after the fact, you can win the election just like that.
00:40:37.000 And Democrats, when Trump offered that dividend, they're like he's trying to buy the vote.
00:40:41.000 What do you think it is when Democrats offer free health care?
00:40:43.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:40:44.000 They're trying to buy the vote.
00:40:45.000 So if Trump's doing that, I'm like, sure, I'm not a fan of any of it, but don't act like y'all are innocent.
00:40:50.000 Well, you got to drop the diesel export ban in like October because it'll keep prices down for like a month.
00:40:55.000 But then, once all the diesel producers realize they've lost a quarter of their market, they're going to slow down production.
00:40:59.000 So, everyone's talking about if it's going to happen, it's going to happen in October.
00:41:04.000 But CNN showing you the economic numbers and how bad it is.
00:41:08.000 What they're not showing you is New Hampshire is competitive, and it shouldn't be.
00:41:12.000 The Republicans should not be competitive.
00:41:13.000 Michigan is competitive because why?
00:41:15.000 Because it shouldn't be.
00:41:16.000 It's a blue state now. 1.00
00:41:18.000 It's competitive because that guy's a lunatic. 1.00
00:41:20.000 The Muslim guy's a lunatic. 1.00
00:41:23.000 Susan Collins is winning up in Maine. 1.00
00:41:26.000 I don't really like her. 0.88
00:41:27.000 She's not conservative, whatever, but she's winning.
00:41:29.000 So you look around, you say, hold on a second.
00:41:31.000 As the one place where it's tough is where they pulled a Biden.
00:41:35.000 In North Carolina, they ran a white guy and pretended that Cooper, who was a former governor, is a good old guy.
00:41:40.000 You know, he's like, oh, you know, Scranton Joe, what a good guy.
00:41:43.000 When he's going to vote for these lunatic leftists, and what Lee's had, the Republicans had a hard time getting his name ID up to compete.
00:41:50.000 And it's still close. 0.51
00:41:51.000 So the point is, the idea that, especially at the Senate, that this is, Related to that, what CNN's pushing is nonsense.
00:41:58.000 Now you go down to the house and it's hand to hand combat.
00:42:02.000 But you made the great point Riley Moore is safe and so are 406 seats.
00:42:08.000 Totally safe.
00:42:09.000 You're never going to lose these seats.
00:42:11.000 You can pretend you're going to.
00:42:12.000 It's 25 or so.
00:42:14.000 And now it's who can go hand to hand.
00:42:16.000 And here's what I'd say Tim, you brought this up the social issues.
00:42:20.000 Second Amendment voters, pro life voters, religious people that go to church every Sunday, people that believe that, look, people that watch Fox News, you can say what you want and I have.
00:42:30.000 I'm not a fan in lots of ways, but they are conditioning old people that are watching all the time that this is, you know, that the war is good and that, you know, healthcare is protected and you're going to be okay.
00:42:43.000 That's what they're telling them, whether it's true or not. 0.65
00:42:46.000 And that means that they're protecting that flank of the Republican coalition for voting.
00:42:49.000 Well, I think this is what a lot of people miss too is, you know, and this is coming from a Zoomer, you know, a right winger who has a lot of, you know, criticisms of the Republican Party. 0.63
00:42:59.000 Boomers, that's the bread and butter, you know, like we can sit on Twitter and antagonize boomers all day long.
00:43:03.000 And even if, You know, every single accusation is true or whatever. 0.89
00:43:07.000 That's besides the point.
00:43:08.000 That is the secret sauce for not just the Republican Party, but the Democrat Party too. 0.73
00:43:11.000 Like, boomers, largest generation, vote at exceptionally high rates, especially because now they're elderly.
00:43:17.000 So, the Republicans, as long as they nail the messaging on Fox News, they're in the race. 0.69
00:43:20.000 A lot of people don't want to hear that.
00:43:21.000 A lot of people are like, well, you know, we should go punish the Republicans at the ballot box.
00:43:27.000 Twitter is like kind of a ghetto in many ways.
00:43:28.000 Like, there's like 30,000 people that are using it on a daily basis. 0.99
00:43:32.000 You know, the boomers are ultimately going to be the ones that decide the election. 0.62
00:43:35.000 And yeah, Fox News, you go on Fox News. 0.98
00:43:38.000 You know, the Iran wars, you know, this had to happen. 0.99
00:43:40.000 It's the greatest thing since sliced bread. 0.85
00:43:42.000 That's going to resonate with a lot of the base.
00:43:44.000 So, just from purely like a political exercise, while it is certainly doom and gloom for younger people, certainly doom and gloom online, the Republicans, they can still kind of go to their fastball on this kind of thing.
00:43:56.000 And they're going to have probably better chance than we would expect, you know, if you're purely consuming online political content.
00:44:03.000 We have another rumble rant from S. Bud Buddy says Trump issues national emergency on behalf of the American people and halts diesel exports by a high percentage.
00:44:11.000 To supplement us with subsidized fuel.
00:44:15.000 Yeah, winning strategy.
00:44:17.000 Absolutely.
00:44:17.000 I think that's a winning strategy.
00:44:19.000 The question is, would he actually do it?
00:44:22.000 But before we get into the next segment, I'm going to say a couple of things.
00:44:22.000 They've talked about it.
00:44:29.000 I think periodically we've had Super Chats and Rumble rants come in that were relevant to the conversation.
00:44:35.000 We've always held them off for any of the show.
00:44:37.000 I'm going to try and grab some of those for the real conversation.
00:44:40.000 That seems to be the obvious thing we've never done in six years of doing this show.
00:44:44.000 So, if you guys are, because we'll go to the super chat portion, I'll be like, I can't remember what this is a reference to.
00:44:49.000 It's like, why are we going back?
00:44:50.000 So, I'll try and grab your chats and rants towards the end of each segment so that you guys can add to that conversation.
00:44:56.000 We'll carry on and then we'll move on.
00:44:57.000 I think that makes a lot more sense.
00:44:59.000 And the other thing I just want to say, real quick, is very excited.
00:45:02.000 You know, Tim Cast IRL being featured on the front page of YouTube right now in the live marquee.
00:45:06.000 Ed, your big old face is just right there.
00:45:09.000 But we're outwatched by a cartoon peanut opening gun packs in CS2.
00:45:09.000 It's beautiful.
00:45:14.000 All right, well.
00:45:15.000 But you know, hey.
00:45:16.000 That's defensible.
00:45:17.000 I mean, that's.
00:45:17.000 You know, I like.
00:45:18.000 Can we do that too?
00:45:19.000 Maybe we could start doing that.
00:45:20.000 It's show business.
00:45:21.000 That's right.
00:45:22.000 Can we add, how do you do that?
00:45:24.000 We'll add an animated.
00:45:24.000 Peanut to the show.
00:45:26.000 And utilize it.
00:45:26.000 And be like, we got it.
00:45:28.000 And no, I think it's more so the gambling.
00:45:30.000 We need a cashew.
00:45:31.000 Maybe we can't be too on the nose.
00:45:33.000 You know what?
00:45:33.000 What we got to do is we got to have keynote numbers going on behind all of us as we're talking.
00:45:33.000 I figured it out.
00:45:38.000 Like a wheel.
00:45:39.000 Pull the numbers out.
00:45:40.000 It's not a bad idea.
00:45:41.000 And then people are like, I picked my numbers, and then you see if you win because everything's becoming sports gambling, which brings us to our next story.
00:45:48.000 We got this from Fox News.
00:45:49.000 Trevor Lawrence fantasy owners are beside themselves after an inexplicable decision.
00:45:55.000 In fourth quarter blowout, my Instagram was blowing up over Trevor Lawrence taking a knee at one yard with nine minutes left in the game.
00:46:06.000 I'm not a football guy.
00:46:08.000 And I've got people being like, Did you see this?
00:46:10.000 They're freaking out.
00:46:11.000 I've got friends who don't know news at all asking me if I saw this story.
00:46:15.000 We're going to talk about it.
00:46:17.000 Because what they're saying is this dude took the knee intentionally so that he could control the outcome for the purpose of sports betting because it's all rigged.
00:46:27.000 I've seen videos on Instagram where they're like, this guy should be criminally investigated and prosecuted.
00:46:32.000 There's rumors that Fanatics is issuing refunds over certain wagers.
00:46:36.000 Let me show you this video.
00:46:38.000 This is Brick Center.
00:46:40.000 What is Trevor Lawrence doing?
00:46:43.000 This has to be gambling.
00:46:45.000 Watch this clip.
00:46:46.000 Run, pass, protection, all of it has been able to play a pretty dominant game against this group.
00:46:53.000 Design run for Lawrence.
00:46:58.000 Lawrence, broken tackles.
00:46:59.000 Eight minutes in.
00:47:03.000 48 seconds.
00:47:04.000 Listen to the commentators.
00:47:05.000 Eight minutes.
00:47:07.000 Just get yourself a touchdown, Spiro.
00:47:12.000 We're not inside.
00:47:12.000 Come on.
00:47:14.000 What are you doing?
00:47:15.000 Maybe a little too much.
00:47:16.000 Maybe a little too much.
00:47:18.000 He wasn't supposed to.
00:47:19.000 That's what people are saying.
00:47:20.000 I think that's Milton Williams had a chance at him.
00:47:24.000 Packish.
00:47:25.000 This is nuts.
00:47:25.000 So look at this.
00:47:26.000 Okay?
00:47:27.000 They even say, how did he get out of this?
00:47:30.000 He breaks through, is able to run forward.
00:47:34.000 And then takes a knee.
00:47:37.000 So, of course, his response was I was trying to run out the clock.
00:47:40.000 Tons of people were like, with nine minutes left, what clock are you running out?
00:47:45.000 I've seen a bunch of wild theories.
00:47:47.000 One, I've seen a lot of people saying that he's got a direct stake in the game and taking this because if he bet himself, he bet against himself scoring a touchdown, presuming he wouldn't score one, getting the opportunity to get one, he's like, uh oh.
00:48:01.000 Other conspiracy theories are that they're all in on it and the bigwigs of the game said.
00:48:06.000 You're not going to score, don't score.
00:48:08.000 And when he made it, when he managed to break through, which he wasn't supposed to do, he's like, uh oh, I'm going to get in trouble.
00:48:14.000 But here's where it gets crazy this article Trevor Lawrence jokes about fantasy football as the reason for ignoring touchdown at the one yard line.
00:48:22.000 Jokes about it?
00:48:23.000 He literally said, I'm looking out for the fantasy fans.
00:48:26.000 And then they're like, ah, he's joking.
00:48:28.000 Or was he serious and just oblivious?
00:48:31.000 Like, I didn't know that was a crime.
00:48:33.000 It's really annoying because we're going to get the truth on this in 20 years on a podcast.
00:48:37.000 Trevor Lawrence does the rounds, and it'll be like, oh, that's so funny.
00:48:40.000 I remember that vaguely.
00:48:41.000 Yeah, I think there's like three possibilities of what happened here.
00:48:45.000 The first is he's being honest, he was just trying to chew the clock up.
00:48:50.000 I mean, you could take another two minutes off maybe with three extra downs.
00:48:54.000 Second possibility is yeah, he's in on it.
00:48:57.000 Like if he had a rushing touchdown, it would have cost him a bunch of money or something like that.
00:49:01.000 The third, which I find to be actually the most compelling explanation, I saw a few people propose this, is that the halfback has some sort of clause in his contract where he gets extra money based off of how many rushing touchdowns he gets that year.
00:49:13.000 And so he must be buddies with the halfback and they're trying to get him.
00:49:16.000 This has happened before.
00:49:17.000 Some people pointed out a few examples of.
00:49:20.000 I think on the Jaguar, I think it was Maurice Jones Drew had a similar clause where if he got so many rushing touchdowns by a certain week in the year, he would get a huge paycheck.
00:49:28.000 And so some people speculate hey, this gives us, it's kind of a combination.
00:49:32.000 It gives us an opportunity to burn more time off for dominating this game.
00:49:36.000 And then additionally, it can give our halfback an extra rushing touchdown because it's on the one yard line.
00:49:41.000 That to me kind of seems like the most compelling explanation. 0.97
00:49:44.000 Because if it's this, I mean, surely he's not stupid enough to, like, if they're, they'll figure out if there's somebody cashing out and they have a connection to him. 0.97
00:49:52.000 They'll sniff that out right away. 0.99
00:49:54.000 Maybe he is.
00:49:54.000 Maybe it's the CTE.
00:49:55.000 I don't know.
00:49:56.000 I mean, look, they're playing the Patriots.
00:49:56.000 Yeah.
00:49:59.000 The Patriots definitely would have run the ball, you know, run the score up as much as they could.
00:50:04.000 I don't have particularly strong feelings as to why he would do this.
00:50:08.000 I mean, gambling.
00:50:09.000 Well, yeah.
00:50:10.000 I mean, possibly.
00:50:12.000 But you, I mean, you do see weird things happen like that in football games.
00:50:15.000 But I mean, I don't.
00:50:17.000 You know what I'm going to do?
00:50:18.000 I'm going to live stream myself walking to the White House press briefing.
00:50:23.000 And I'm going to be like, I'm going, I'm going there.
00:50:26.000 And then, because there's a wager for, there's a contract bet for me, a contract, whatever, on CalShee.
00:50:31.000 Tim Poole will go to a White House press briefing.
00:50:33.000 And we're actively trying to go.
00:50:35.000 They did invite us again, so we'll see.
00:50:37.000 But what I should do, I'll live stream myself walking.
00:50:39.000 I'll be like, all right, everybody, I am walking there.
00:50:41.000 And then right when I get the door, I'm going to take a knee.
00:50:44.000 Yeah.
00:50:44.000 Bad idea.
00:50:44.000 Yeah.
00:50:45.000 Oh, cross the line, Tim.
00:50:47.000 And then.
00:50:48.000 I think your third one is the most plausible.
00:50:50.000 I think it's something like that, but it still brings us to the same spot, which is.
00:50:54.000 There's so much money in these games now, in sports and sports gambling and in the conduct.
00:50:58.000 As you say, if it was the contract, it sounds right, you know, that you've got all these, it's just changing the way things are operating.
00:51:05.000 And to think that these guys are going to stay sort of pure of heart is insane.
00:51:12.000 And I mentioned off air that I met in my time in DOJ with this guy, Jon Tay Porter, who has admitted that he had a gambling problem in the NBA.
00:51:20.000 He talked about it publicly.
00:51:21.000 It's very compelling.
00:51:22.000 An addict.
00:51:23.000 He's gone, goes to Gambling Anonymous and all, and has, Stopped and all this kind of stuff.
00:51:29.000 But when you hear him talk about the fact that every aspect of the NBA is being gambled on, you know, how many points you get in a quarter, how many rebounds, how many minutes you play, all these things, to think that it's not going to be manipulated by people who want to make money is just naive.
00:51:46.000 I mean, it's not just the NBA, though.
00:51:47.000 Right, right, right.
00:51:48.000 The NBA is just where it's most egregious.
00:51:50.000 Because if you ever look up the Malik Beasley throwing games tape, I mean, it's the most unbelievable.
00:51:54.000 He doesn't even try to disguise it or hide it.
00:51:56.000 And he got indicted.
00:51:57.000 I don't think he got indicted, but he got investigated.
00:51:59.000 I think it might be pending.
00:52:01.000 But there's like a sizzle reel of like 10 minutes of Malik Beasley just like throwing the ball out of bounds, like slipping and throws it behind him and goes in the goal.
00:52:08.000 Like it's absolutely insane.
00:52:10.000 But additionally, even if it's not gambling related, there's still with the contract stuff that just completely erodes the integrity of the game.
00:52:17.000 Because I don't know if you remember, there was this spree where Russell Westbrook, I think he averaged a triple double over the season for non basketball viewers.
00:52:23.000 It's you get over 10 points, over 10 rebounds, over 10 assists.
00:52:26.000 You know, you could do steals or something that's unlikely.
00:52:28.000 And Like he's a point guard, so they don't get rebounds, right?
00:52:31.000 He's supposed to be taking the ball before he's usually the shortest player on the floor.
00:52:34.000 But if the other team shot a three pointer, the big men would run down the court, so then they'd be clear, wide open for Russell Westbrook to go grab a rebound.
00:52:43.000 And people were like, does he really just care about his stats that much where he needs to get a triple double every game?
00:52:48.000 Potentially, it could be a pride thing.
00:52:49.000 But what was more likely was that, again, if he got in a certain, for every triple double he got, he probably got some sort of kickback from the Oklahoma City Thunder.
00:52:56.000 And therefore, he was directly incentivized and his teammates were directly incentivized to allow him to collect rebounds.
00:53:03.000 Then all of a sudden, it starts tampering with statistics, records, et cetera.
00:53:07.000 It just erodes the integrity of the game.
00:53:08.000 So it's like, even if it's not something as illegal as sports gambling, these convoluted contracts, the amount of money in the game, it's still.
00:53:14.000 Tampers the integrity of the game.
00:53:15.000 Here's what I never got.
00:53:16.000 You can bet on the color of the Gatorade, but there are probably hundreds of people who know what the color of the Gatorade is.
00:53:22.000 How are people betting on that?
00:53:22.000 So, how is that?
00:53:24.000 It's a sucker's bet. 0.97
00:53:25.000 Right. 0.92
00:53:25.000 Well, it's like, I guess as soon as, you know, if you go, if you're like watching the game like three or four hours before, if you see a spike, you go and bet on that. 0.92
00:53:32.000 That's probably your best option.
00:53:33.000 There's some lady who works in an accounting department or a delivery company who's like, they just ordered like 500 gallons of, you know, like Arctic Frost or whatever.
00:53:43.000 And she's like, well, I know what the color of the Gatorade is going to be.
00:53:46.000 Well, that's why a lot of the college teams started like throwing people off and they would mix two flavors together.
00:53:50.000 I don't know, really?
00:53:51.000 Green or brown or whatever.
00:53:53.000 But if I can say, guys, I move it a little bit and I'll sound like a scourge, I guess, but the gambling's out of control.
00:53:59.000 And it's targeted at the kids, and kids are in the NBA or now in the NCAA football, you know, the top programs, the kids are making a million dollars and they're not even the stars.
00:53:59.000 Oh, totally.
00:54:11.000 And so they're gambling all the time.
00:54:13.000 And what I hate about it the most is they're using the technology, the neuroscience, To change your brain to make these kids do it.
00:54:21.000 And, you know, the idea of this not being something that we're all screaming about is crazy to me.
00:54:28.000 We're destroying generations of kids with this, allowing this stuff to go on.
00:54:33.000 I know it's a genie back in the bottle, but it's really, really bad.
00:54:39.000 And this is what's being annoying is like being a proper conservative, et cetera.
00:54:44.000 I'm still holding the line on all these issues that the cat's kind of out of the back. 0.99
00:54:47.000 Like, I'm still against gay marriage. 1.00
00:54:50.000 That train left the station 10 years ago. 0.95
00:54:54.000 To be a Republican nominee of the B Pro Game.
00:54:55.000 But I'm still holding on to lines because I'm like, dude, once you start giving an inch here, they'll take a mile.
00:55:00.000 This has certainly been the case with gambling.
00:55:02.000 They're saying, oh, what?
00:55:03.000 It's just putting a bet on your phone.
00:55:04.000 What's the big deal?
00:55:05.000 Next thing you know, you're watching Little League and there's betting markets.
00:55:09.000 This is insane.
00:55:10.000 It's over.
00:55:11.000 The future of the economy is we're moving.
00:55:14.000 So this is my prediction.
00:55:17.000 We had a labor economy.
00:55:20.000 Then the labor economy evolved in a variety of ways.
00:55:25.000 We brought in beasts of burden, and now you had an animal husbandry economy.
00:55:29.000 Could you bring the mules or the horses?
00:55:31.000 Could you buy them?
00:55:32.000 But it was still a labor economy.
00:55:33.000 It was still the work you were doing, but it was hated.
00:55:35.000 Industry came about, and we still had a labor economy.
00:55:38.000 Then we start offshoring a lot of this labor, and we get a service sector economy.
00:55:41.000 Now it's can I provide a service to you?
00:55:43.000 Not even a thing.
00:55:45.000 Things started to change dramatically with the internet when we got the information economy.
00:55:49.000 This is once the internet became ubiquitous.
00:55:52.000 Now, there was tons of money to be made in delivering news and information through websites.
00:55:56.000 People wanted this.
00:55:57.000 Advertisers were selling through it.
00:55:59.000 Information was access to product knowledge.
00:56:01.000 And the saying goes for sales, a million years, right?
00:56:06.000 You can have the best product in the world.
00:56:07.000 And if no one knows about it, you don't got a product at all.
00:56:11.000 Now we are in the attention economy.
00:56:13.000 Information is ubiquitous.
00:56:16.000 No one needs you to tell them the news.
00:56:18.000 Okay?
00:56:19.000 The moment Donald Trump does a backflip, Everyone's already found out about it.
00:56:24.000 So the question is how long can I keep your attention?
00:56:28.000 This is resulting in videos where people are screaming at the top of their lungs at each other.
00:56:32.000 But what happens after an attention economy?
00:56:37.000 The prediction economy.
00:56:39.000 Economics based on being able to foretell events because you're smart, smarter or more insightful.
00:56:45.000 So we get the I can provide you with information economy.
00:56:49.000 Please just look at me.
00:56:50.000 I've got nothing left.
00:56:51.000 And then I can see things before you do.
00:56:54.000 Now, for a lot of that's always existed to a small degree.
00:56:57.000 But stock trading was not for the retail investor, it didn't exist until I think it was like the Jobs Act or something with Obama, only in the past like 15 or so years.
00:57:05.000 You had to be rich or an institution to invest.
00:57:10.000 I think where we're going now, and the reason why Calci, Poly Market, sports betting, fantasy, the reason why all that's blowing up, our economy is going in a direction based on this.
00:57:20.000 This is the future, okay?
00:57:21.000 With AI, with everything.
00:57:23.000 You don't need jobs.
00:57:24.000 UBI won't work.
00:57:25.000 The economy is going to be based on if you are better at predicting outcomes than other people.
00:57:30.000 So, what do we get? 1.00
00:57:32.000 Gambling is stupid. 1.00
00:57:33.000 Gambling is like the stupidest, lowest tier of this because playing blackjack, you can count cards if you're looking at an actual shoe and improve your odds to 50.5%. 1.00
00:57:44.000 But they'll kick you out for that. 0.99
00:57:46.000 But if you're doing sports betting, there are people, people that I know who are doing million bucks a month sports betting, insane numbers.
00:57:55.000 And I'm going to tell you right now, I've already brought this up.
00:57:57.000 The average salary of a millionaire is $165K per year.
00:58:01.000 I know people that have, maybe they're not doing like a million every single month because it depends on when sporting are in.
00:58:08.000 But there are people that are printing money with sports betting.
00:58:13.000 You guys ever see the movie Casino?
00:58:15.000 One of the best movies ever made, you gotta watch it.
00:58:18.000 Robert De Niro, back before he went nuts.
00:58:22.000 And his character is based on a true story.
00:58:25.000 He's like, he used to make tons of money for the mafia, for the mob, by sports betting.
00:58:29.000 It'd be really simple.
00:58:30.000 He'd go and meet with friends and family and say, Tell me about the players, tell me about the jockeys, what's going on.
00:58:35.000 And they'd be like, Ah, yeah, he's been feeling sick this morning.
00:58:38.000 Okay, you go bet against them, and he'd print money.
00:58:41.000 This is what we're starting to see now.
00:58:43.000 Do you have access to information, and can you predict more?
00:58:46.000 So, it's one thing to say gambling is degenerate.
00:58:48.000 Yeah, I get it, but you're not stopping it because the genie's out of the bottle, the cat's out of the bag.
00:58:52.000 You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
00:58:53.000 I'll use every analogy we have in the world for this one.
00:58:56.000 You are going to see the people who are making the most money are the people who can look at the players and look at the numbers and say, I know who's going to win tomorrow.
00:59:06.000 And they're going to do crazy parlays and they're going to make crazy money.
00:59:10.000 This is what we're seeing, and we're already seeing it right now.
00:59:12.000 Like I mentioned that Peanut live stream, the cartoon Peanut.
00:59:16.000 Burnt Peanut.
00:59:17.000 Burnt Peanut.
00:59:18.000 Apparently, it's just cracking packs in CS2.
00:59:21.000 People just want to watch that.
00:59:23.000 So, you've already got this massive explosion.
00:59:26.000 You've got like Vegas Matt.
00:59:28.000 Have you guys seen Vegas Matt?
00:59:30.000 Dude plays slots and prints money.
00:59:32.000 You got Lady Luck plays slots and prints money.
00:59:36.000 You can lose the gambling, but people want to watch it.
00:59:39.000 They want to play it.
00:59:41.000 People want to be involved in it.
00:59:43.000 We can call it bad all day and night.
00:59:45.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:59:46.000 I completely agree.
00:59:48.000 But this is where the economy is shaping up to go.
00:59:50.000 Yeah.
00:59:50.000 Well, I mean, there's like multiple things here.
00:59:52.000 I mean, because we have, you know, deaths of misery, right?
00:59:54.000 You know, people that, you know, start consuming drugs or whatever.
00:59:58.000 But now you're seeing like consumption of misery, right?
01:00:00.000 Like, I think a lot of what's going on here is these are people that, and primarily young men who don't view themselves as having a future in the country or having a future in general.
01:00:10.000 And so they just say, well, okay, I could do 50 years at a company.
01:00:14.000 You know, you're not even guaranteed a good pension anymore.
01:00:16.000 Or I can just get rich now because I want to be rich now because the only time I'm going to be able to enjoy this wealth is while I'm young.
01:00:22.000 And so they'd start, you know, buying into these effectively get rich quick schemes.
01:00:26.000 There's so many problems with sports betting we could get into.
01:00:28.000 I think another missing piece here, so I think, first of all, it's primarily affecting young men. 0.81
01:00:32.000 Secondarily, young men were primed for this because here's like a little zoomer inside baseball.
01:00:37.000 Is from like 12 years old when you're playing video games, and I like video games, I'm a proud gamer, but you're primed for gambling, especially if you're playing games like Fortnite or games like I love FIFA growing up.
01:00:50.000 And on FIFA, you have Ultimate Team.
01:00:51.000 What do you do in Ultimate Team?
01:00:52.000 You pay money and you open a pack, and then you have a 5% chance of getting a good player.
01:00:57.000 And it kind of already starts getting this mentality of gambling, of You know, putting money in.
01:01:04.000 You know, the odds are stacked against you, but you know there's a chance you get a really good player.
01:01:08.000 So it's already kind of primed this.
01:01:09.000 I don't know if risk tolerance is the proper word to use here, but it's tampered with people's psychology when it comes to risk and involving putting money on the line.
01:01:18.000 And so it basically primed an entire generation.
01:01:20.000 My generation, same thing with Fortnite, same thing with Call of Duty Warzone.
01:01:23.000 It primed us for betting markets, it primed us for sports gambling.
01:01:28.000 I'm probably going to lose money, but when I do make money, I'm going to make it all back.
01:01:31.000 Same thing with Pokemon and Magic the Gathering cards.
01:01:34.000 Like Tim was saying, burnt peanuts opening packs of.
01:01:37.000 You know, cards.
01:01:37.000 Yeah.
01:01:38.000 I think he's pulling guns in CS2.
01:01:40.000 Well, yeah.
01:01:41.000 I don't know.
01:01:41.000 I don't know exactly what I think.
01:01:42.000 These video games like FIFA, like Fortnite, were so designed for mass consumption that it primed people from the online aspect.
01:01:48.000 Because growing up, I don't really remember people doing pack openings or kids on the playground, but you can do that in your living room as long as you had your parents' credit card.
01:01:55.000 The point right now is I'll phrase it like this I have seen probably 7,000 great musicians on Instagram.
01:02:05.000 And I'm going to tell you guys.
01:02:08.000 I don't know if the issue is just that humans aren't real.
01:02:10.000 Like, they're all NPCs.
01:02:12.000 And, you know, like, what was it you said that the Seventh day Adventists were right?
01:02:16.000 There's only like.
01:02:16.000 Who was witness?
01:02:17.000 There's like on 24,000 and sold them.
01:02:19.000 Like, they might have been cooking with that.
01:02:20.000 Well, go on Instagram and you're like, Jim, many times I have seen the video where a person walks in the room and in the corner of the room, they see the woman in the white dress, the horror twisted in the corner, and then it points and they look down, there's a spider, and then they're both in the corner of the room.
01:02:34.000 I have seen that video 7,000 times.
01:02:39.000 I want these people criminally charged for being boring, but I started to think to myself, maybe they just can't think.
01:02:47.000 Like, maybe the extent of their thought process is I can only imitate what I see other people do.
01:02:52.000 My point is, people are bored.
01:02:55.000 I've seen a million videos, okay, in all seriousness, maybe it's 375, where it's some young Gen Z woman playing a folk song and a guitar, and then there's texts being like, you're so lucky your algorithm stumbled upon this independent artist.
01:03:09.000 And I'm like, yeah.
01:03:10.000 You and 7,000 other identical, generic, boring people. 0.96
01:03:14.000 Block, block, go away.
01:03:16.000 My point is this people are bored and have nothing to do.
01:03:19.000 Everybody can sing, anybody can AI generate good music.
01:03:23.000 No one needs to do much of anything.
01:03:27.000 While we have political complaints, the rise of woke and political complaints is largely attached to there's nothing else to do.
01:03:35.000 We don't have to tend the fields anymore or the chickens or the cows.
01:03:39.000 People who are poor in the United States are obese.
01:03:42.000 So, from this, People are listless, purposeless, and bored, and they're seeking out a dopamine hit.
01:03:50.000 What's really bad about it is if I go out into my skate park and I land a Nolly hard flip, I get a dopamine hit.
01:03:58.000 It feels good.
01:03:58.000 I did that trick.
01:03:59.000 I'm a 40 year old man.
01:04:00.000 I still got it.
01:04:02.000 For young people, they artificially trigger a dopamine hit when they win at gambling, something they cannot control.
01:04:10.000 And that's the problem there's nothing left for people to do that makes them feel like they're succeeding except for random chance.
01:04:18.000 I'd go one step further in this, take it one step further.
01:04:21.000 And I think it's great that the president has been fighting with fake news and saying how fake news is bad.
01:04:26.000 But I'm past the point where I believe that the TV can brainwash people as well as big tech does with all these tools.
01:04:34.000 Because you can say that they conditioned you with the FIFA game.
01:04:37.000 By now, they've got neuroscientists on their team and they're figuring out how to hook you.
01:04:42.000 And they're figuring out how to hook your siblings and your kids and everybody else.
01:04:48.000 And that's the real enemy here.
01:04:50.000 The real enemy to me is the tech monsters that are using neuroscience to take over our lives, all of us.
01:04:58.000 And I don't disagree, Tim, that that's where we are.
01:05:00.000 You can't put the genie back in the bottle.
01:05:01.000 But to not describe it that way is to me, you know, again, NBC News isn't programming us, or CNN even.
01:05:10.000 It's Facebook and it's all the big tech giants.
01:05:15.000 And I think it's much scarier than people realize.
01:05:19.000 Well, I completely agree.
01:05:21.000 I mean, like, if Thomas Edison were alive today, he'd be working for some advertising firm, like, you know, digging through people's data to determine, you know, how to best target.
01:05:29.000 You know, a Mr. Beast, you know, candy bar ad or something.
01:05:33.000 Like, that's quite literally the brightest minds in the United States, barring some who do find success, are like pouring into basically advertising agencies.
01:05:41.000 Like, it is really disturbing stuff.
01:05:44.000 And yeah, to your point, I think people overrate the impact of liberal universities, of mainstream media.
01:05:51.000 I think a lot of what's going on is like social contagions who spread their pathogens through social media.
01:05:57.000 And I'm not an advocate, I think a social media ban actually makes things worse, but it is to indicate.
01:06:02.000 That young people are developing these ideas independently of like, you know, mainstream messaging.
01:06:09.000 I think these are actually developing like pretty organically.
01:06:12.000 Like, you're using with like transgender people.
01:06:13.000 A lot of that stuff, a lot of the stuff they're into, a lot of that culture is developed independently and it is disseminated through social media.
01:06:20.000 But I don't think that is like some of it certainly is top down, but like they enter these universities to the left of the universities.
01:06:26.000 Like, that is often the case.
01:06:27.000 And then they maybe pull the university to the left, but they're like coming in from high school like this.
01:06:31.000 We're not changing this. 0.90
01:06:34.000 If you want change, you have to influence children, not Gen Z. Gen Z are adults. 0.75
01:06:40.000 You're not going to go to someone who's in their mid 20s and say, let's rearrange your entire life. 0.93
01:06:43.000 It's not happening.
01:06:44.000 The habits that were built, like you described, came from when y'all were 12 years old.
01:06:48.000 Cracking packs, boosters, playing Overwatch, and desperately trying to get that skin.
01:06:54.000 And then you can show it off.
01:06:55.000 You can play the game with the rare pack pole or the Pokemon card.
01:07:00.000 So these people are now adults, and you're not putting that out.
01:07:03.000 You can go to younger kids.
01:07:05.000 And say we're putting a stop to this now so that when they grow up, they don't have these habits, but it's all happening.
01:07:09.000 Yeah.
01:07:10.000 I wanna read this Rumble rant from John Waters.
01:07:12.000 He says, I watch Vegas, Matt.
01:07:14.000 It's actually four guys talking and having fun.
01:07:16.000 He shows his session win or lose.
01:07:18.000 I like watching because it's an escape from all the noise, just four guys joking and having fun.
01:07:23.000 I get it, completely agree.
01:07:25.000 And that's what our plan with the show Poker with the Boys was supposed to be.
01:07:28.000 We wanted to do a podcast that was more just like dudes goofing off and telling jokes.
01:07:33.000 Unfortunately, it's illegal in every single state to do this unless we move to Texas.
01:07:36.000 So it's like, We never got around to it, though we bought all the stuff.
01:07:39.000 The point is not gambling.
01:07:43.000 The point was an escape.
01:07:45.000 And that's something that I was pointing out before last week.
01:07:49.000 The internet used to be the escape.
01:07:50.000 It's not anymore.
01:07:51.000 The internet is now the prison.
01:07:52.000 The internet is now real life.
01:07:54.000 When I was younger, before we had ubiquitous smartphones, I'd go out into the world and that was the world you interacted with.
01:08:00.000 I mean, old people recognize, like, remember this, young people didn't live it.
01:08:05.000 So I'd go to work. 0.69
01:08:06.000 That's work.
01:08:07.000 News would be on, people would talk about stuff, had to refill the mangoes in the Jamba Juice fridge.
01:08:07.000 Ugh.
01:08:14.000 I worked at a Jamba Juice.
01:08:15.000 And I'd go back home and I'd have a computer and I could go in a room by myself and send the computer and just shut everything down.
01:08:23.000 And I'd learn about things and I'd be interested in things.
01:08:25.000 Today, the internet is the prison.
01:08:27.000 It is life.
01:08:29.000 And so people are turning it off and being like, I want something else.
01:08:33.000 Yo, I've watched, it blew my mind, walking in a room full of people sitting on couches and they're watching Vegas Matt two hour slot machine.
01:08:43.000 Just literally, like, press a button, the slot comes down.
01:08:45.000 Press a button, the slot comes down.
01:08:45.000 Yeah.
01:08:46.000 And they're like, I just want it all to shut up.
01:08:51.000 I get it.
01:08:52.000 Well, I think it's like virtually impossible to find like a normie oracle.
01:08:56.000 This person that is completely untouched by the internet now because it's like it really is all encompassing.
01:09:00.000 And like my grandmother knows what looks maxing is.
01:09:02.000 I mean, like it is like beyond, you know, it is beyond like this is something that like was circulating on 4chan 10 years ago and now is like in the American zeitgeist.
01:09:10.000 CNN, New York Times are all doing front, you know, big hits on it and whatnot.
01:09:10.000 Everyone's aware of it.
01:09:14.000 Like we are beyond the point where, you know, we can like revert back and just go back.
01:09:19.000 You do get these rare moments where the internet actually does, and I'm talking about like the post COVID era, it does offer up something that is probably healthy for people.
01:09:27.000 I think the key is like trying to amplify that.
01:09:28.000 Like, a good example was like in the aftermath of COVID and the lockdowns, chess had this moment where chess, everyone's into chess.
01:09:36.000 Like, all my friends are playing chess.
01:09:37.000 We were, you know, intaking chess streamers and we were watching chess tournaments and whatever.
01:09:42.000 Nerds.
01:09:43.000 Yeah, it's like nerds.
01:09:44.000 But it's funny because it's like you had people from all sorts of walks of life like getting into chess.
01:09:47.000 And what was funny is it kind of died off.
01:09:50.000 And I wonder if part of the reason it died off was because these companies were finding it impossible to monetize it.
01:09:54.000 Like, the main house in chess was chess.com.
01:09:58.000 And chess.com is ran by like these chess purist ideologues.
01:10:01.000 Maybe that's not a, you know, I'm sure chess people will get mad at that.
01:10:04.000 But like, from my perspective, these are people that weren't actually seeking to just like totally monetize their basically stranglehold on the market.
01:10:12.000 And it was this rare moment where I'm like, this is actually something nice that the internet has offered up and provided.
01:10:16.000 I think the key would be like, you kind of have to socially engineer your way out of this is like amplify those more positive analog experiences and pretty much legislate out of existence these more like cancerous elements of the internet, like the gambling and all.
01:10:28.000 But, but guys, let's play it out then.
01:10:30.000 Let's play out what the crisis to come is.
01:10:31.000 And, and this is way too glib, but you know, the industrial revolution happens and everybody comes in off the farms.
01:10:37.000 And according to the, you know, accounts, they were drunk.
01:10:40.000 The men were go to work in a, in a factory and they get drunk at night.
01:10:43.000 It's where gin got popular in London.
01:10:44.000 They were all blotto, right?
01:10:46.000 And then you go forward in time and you see every time, you know, if you're right, Tim, that we're going towards this thing where it's going to be the attention economy, what do we end up with?
01:10:54.000 Prediction.
01:10:55.000 Prediction economy.
01:10:55.000 Sorry.
01:10:56.000 What, what do we end up with in terms of how people are living?
01:10:59.000 Because you're not going back on the farm.
01:11:01.000 I agree with you.
01:11:02.000 There's nothing to do.
01:11:03.000 I agree with you relatively.
01:11:05.000 And all the relationships have changed, right?
01:11:07.000 There's not the same situation where you lived within eight blocks of all the people that you might possibly marry in 1915, right?
01:11:14.000 So, what are we headed towards?
01:11:16.000 Think about it this way when AI can do everything and it already knows what is, what value do humans have?
01:11:25.000 Conceptualization.
01:11:27.000 So, if any person can go on AI and get a picture generated, a video game made, a movie made, Can answer any question, then humans have no value for each other.
01:11:36.000 The economy makes no sense.
01:11:38.000 I'm not going to go to you and say, Can you do work for me?
01:11:40.000 The robot can do it by itself.
01:11:42.000 The robot can answer all the questions.
01:11:43.000 Heck, optimist bots are going to come and clean my gutters.
01:11:46.000 It costs me almost nothing.
01:11:48.000 What value does another person have?
01:11:50.000 I can provide information not yet available.
01:11:53.000 So the AI can answer the questions now, but it sucks at predictions.
01:11:57.000 I can make a good prediction.
01:11:58.000 So we're going to see people who tend to be right based on what's going to happen.
01:12:03.000 Now, this is already true, obviously.
01:12:05.000 If you are good at predicting the future, you're going to get rich.
01:12:08.000 It will just be substantially more apparent and the basis by which many people are becoming rich.
01:12:13.000 And it already is, actually.
01:12:14.000 But what's the crisis look like?
01:12:16.000 What's the crisis look like?
01:12:18.000 What is the devastation of that look like in terms of the community?
01:12:24.000 How do people function?
01:12:25.000 How do they feel?
01:12:27.000 What do you do about it?
01:12:29.000 Well, I mean, not everybody's going to be good at predicting.
01:12:32.000 Not everybody's good at anything.
01:12:34.000 Right, I know.
01:12:35.000 But there are people who work at McDonald's and they can't do anything else.
01:12:37.000 Right, but they have something to do.
01:12:39.000 And in the future, that's not going to be there for them.
01:12:41.000 So they've got nothing to do.
01:12:43.000 There are people right now who just live off welfare.
01:12:45.000 Well, there are people who do nothing and get paid.
01:12:47.000 There are jobs that are fake for the purpose of just to give people money.
01:12:49.000 Well, I agree with that, but that's a progression in a negative way, a regression or whatever the word would be, towards something that's not good, right?
01:12:57.000 There wasn't welfare 100 years ago the same way there is now, right?
01:13:01.000 You had to go to St. Stanislaus if you were Polish American and get some help, or you went to St. Patrick's.
01:13:05.000 So, what do we end up with if we go?
01:13:08.000 I mean, UBI doesn't work.
01:13:10.000 It doesn't work.
01:13:10.000 UBI does not work.
01:13:11.000 So, it doesn't work.
01:13:12.000 So, we have right now a class of people that, as you said, are obese, and because they're on welfare, it's not a meaningful life, right?
01:13:18.000 So, what do we end up doing?
01:13:19.000 Most of us.
01:13:20.000 What do we find meaningful to them?
01:13:21.000 Well, do we end up with most of the people in that existence?
01:13:26.000 So, most people actually have a meaningless life?
01:13:29.000 Well, that's a question.
01:13:30.000 Outside, I mean, most people find meaning with families and with their social connections and stuff.
01:13:37.000 Most people don't do a job they love, they do a job that pays the bills, they do a job that they can tolerate.
01:13:45.000 So, I don't know that we're going to be able to fix the fact that people don't have the same social connections, but I don't think the jobs part is actually.
01:13:56.000 That's important because I think that there are an exceedingly few number of people, at least in the world, but specifically in the U.S., that have a job they really enjoy that they love.
01:14:10.000 Most people go to a job that they tolerate.
01:14:13.000 But did anybody ever?
01:14:13.000 Maybe they love it.
01:14:14.000 I mean, if you were a hunter gatherer, you'd work in a feast.
01:14:17.000 So that's just, let's call it.
01:14:18.000 There's more people now than ever have, probably.
01:14:20.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:14:21.000 And so I'm just saying that what the problem that's coming, it seems unbelievable.
01:14:21.000 I think that's true.
01:14:27.000 Overwhelming.
01:14:28.000 I think what I'm trying to articulate is the social connections is the more pressing problem than the actual work stuff.
01:14:34.000 I think that's true.
01:14:34.000 Yes.
01:14:35.000 And I mean, I know, Ed, you've talked about this before. 0.91
01:14:38.000 I mean, I think part of it really is like with sort of immigration crisis that we have with legal, like you're seeing the sort of the social compact breakdown where, I mean, even legal immigrants are like, okay, so I did all this paperwork and this person just comes and skips the line. 0.61
01:14:52.000 Where like a lot of communities in this country really feel unstable because of the volume of like illegal immigration that's coming to the country. 0.51
01:14:59.000 And like Trump's been doing some great work on the immigration front. 0.60
01:15:01.000 But how do you like to go to young men and you're like, hey, by the way, you can't buy a house and 20 million of them are being occupied?
01:15:07.000 And then Sarah Huckabee Sanders makes an ad just crapping all over you.
01:15:12.000 Yeah.
01:15:12.000 And, you know, I was looking for a job.
01:15:14.000 By the way, that's the end of her career.
01:15:16.000 She wanted to be VP in the next.
01:15:18.000 Let's pull this up.
01:15:19.000 We got this tweet from Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 1.00
01:15:22.000 You pay taxes to cover welfare for people who just choose not to work.
01:15:25.000 That's why I launched a welfare to work requirement.
01:15:27.000 If you're young, healthy, and get government assistance, you should work, go to school, or volunteer.
01:15:32.000 Let me play the video for you guys and then you can guess why everyone's mad.
01:15:37.000 Meet Brad.
01:15:39.000 Brad has turned relaxing into a full time profession.
01:15:44.000 But you, you actually work hard.
01:15:46.000 You pay taxes to cover welfare for guys like Brad who just choose not to work.
01:15:53.000 That's why I launched a welfare to work requirement.
01:15:56.000 Almost there. 0.99
01:15:58.000 Now, more Arkansans are working than ever before.
01:16:03.000 Even Brad.
01:16:07.000 So, what do you guys notice about this video that's got everybody all angry? 1.00
01:16:11.000 He's a chud. 1.00
01:16:12.000 They're going after gamers. 0.99
01:16:14.000 They're going after Gen Z white male gamers as if they're sitting at home on welfare, not working.
01:16:20.000 Oh, I'm proud to say on this tweet, I have the top quote tweet.
01:16:23.000 I've ratioed her like three to one on this. 0.99
01:16:25.000 Good shit. 0.99
01:16:25.000 Me and Matt Walsh are holding it down on this front. 0.99
01:16:28.000 In the quotes?
01:16:29.000 Yeah, I have the number one.
01:16:31.000 Kate Brown says the only acceptable villain in their anti welfare ad is a young white male gamer.
01:16:36.000 Yeah, it's a safe one, though.
01:16:37.000 It is.
01:16:38.000 It is.
01:16:38.000 It's a safe attack vector where it's like, look, if we're going to cut the brass tacks, I think we kind of know instinctually, especially in a place like Arkansas, who the primary people are that are.
01:16:46.000 On welfare, that probably gamer walks alone.
01:16:49.000 Uh, yeah, and so you're seeing like this total all out attack. 0.82
01:16:52.000 It's always going to be acceptable to punch, um, and beat up on young white men because like we're expected to just take it, and that's what's so absurd about this.
01:17:01.000 Where you know, some people are like, Well, what if she's doing 40 chess? 0.90
01:17:03.000 Like, this is an issue that needs to be solved, but she understands like if she can win over like you know more left wing people by attacking young white men, then like people support it.
01:17:11.000 And I'm like, Then just don't cut the ad at all.
01:17:13.000 Like, why even make the ad in the first place?
01:17:16.000 It's just a completely abhorrent messaging.
01:17:18.000 To young men who, like, it's been well illustrated that, and the Trump administration has been a large part of exposing a lot of this.
01:17:25.000 It's been well illustrated how major institutions in this country have seek to punish young white men, prevent them from getting into college, prevent, like, through deep supporting DEI initiatives, prevent them from getting better and better jobs in the economy that they would be entitled to off of merit.
01:17:38.000 It's just in every direction, it's been this impediment.
01:17:40.000 And then how do you turn around?
01:17:41.000 You turn around and attack those same guys who, I did a cursory search.
01:17:44.000 It's like 3% of under 30 white men are taking welfare subsidies in the state of Arkansas.
01:17:49.000 And they're probably taking it legitimately. 0.77
01:17:51.000 Presumably, yeah.
01:17:52.000 Yeah.
01:17:52.000 So it's just.
01:17:54.000 They collect that unemployment legitimately, and then there are people who are abusing it, and they're not being called out.
01:17:59.000 So that's what's just frustrating.
01:17:59.000 Yeah.
01:18:00.000 And it kind of goes back to my earlier thing.
01:18:01.000 Like, I mean, immigration is like where a lot of young men are not a lot.
01:18:05.000 You can go look at the polling.
01:18:06.000 The number one issue young men are citing is like immigration related issues, whether it's like housing crunches caused by immigration, jobs crunched from immigration.
01:18:15.000 So it's like the Trump administration has been doing really good work on that front.
01:18:18.000 But the problem is immigration, in and of itself, not going to be a kitchen table issue.
01:18:22.000 When you communicate to young guys, hey, we're like buying you back into the game.
01:18:25.000 You guys got completely like nuked from orbit by liberals with their junior partners, the conservative movement.
01:18:31.000 We're buying you back into this game by creating some room with like immigration enforcement.
01:18:36.000 What you don't do is like turn around and then this is your messaging.
01:18:36.000 Communicate that to us.
01:18:40.000 And we're not just picking on the random governor of Arkansas. 0.99
01:18:42.000 This is a woman that is steeped in conservative ink tradition.
01:18:46.000 This is a woman whose dad is like one of the most important people in the conservative movement, so to speak.
01:18:50.000 This is a woman that should know better.
01:18:53.000 And so, this isn't just an outlier because you also will see this sorts of messaging from Republicans all the time because they take for granted young white men.
01:19:01.000 Because, you know, as soon as young white men start getting a little agitated and say, What are you going to go vote for the Marxists?
01:19:05.000 They hate you even more.
01:19:06.000 And it's like, it just puts you in this tough perspective from like game theory.
01:19:09.000 Well, this is why Nick Fuentes said the GOP needs to be burned to the ground.
01:19:13.000 Yeah.
01:19:13.000 Because of things like this.
01:19:14.000 And he's just like, You're not going to get any meaningful political representation until the GOP is weak and taken over.
01:19:22.000 Well, and if you look at it from the perspective of how do the Democrats.
01:19:26.000 Talk about their core constituents, or at least who they like expect to be a part of their core constituencies.
01:19:30.000 They're coming up with holidays for them.
01:19:32.000 They're coming up with grants. 0.67
01:19:34.000 They're like, black women, black men are the greatest things in sliced bread.
01:19:37.000 And it's like, if that's your core base, fine, the Democrats know how to play politics.
01:19:41.000 I'm not expecting the GOP to have like, you know, white history month or anything like that, but at the very least, don't attack us.
01:19:47.000 I mean, it is just like, especially if they are in this knife fight for the midterms, I mean, it's insulting, sure.
01:19:53.000 But additionally, you're just going to completely demoralize young guys who, Okay, yes, they're not like the number one voting block.
01:20:00.000 It's still going to be, you know, older, older white people for the Republicans, but you're going to need them at some point, like when, you know, the demographics.
01:20:06.000 Well, I'm sorry.
01:20:08.000 I just, I gotta rag on conservatives.
01:20:12.000 Like at a certain point, you know, I look at a kid and he's getting bullied, okay?
01:20:19.000 And I see a bully picking on him.
01:20:21.000 And the kid who's getting bullied just keeps getting bullied and he won't do anything about it.
01:20:25.000 Am I supposed to go, oh no, oh, that poor baby.
01:20:28.000 Nah, that ain't me.
01:20:29.000 That ain't me.
01:20:30.000 I'm gonna see that kid and he's gonna be like, I'm getting picked on. 0.99
01:20:33.000 I'll be like, well, maybe you should start doing some push ups, learn to fight, kick him into balls, and he'll leave you the F alone. 0.98
01:20:39.000 I'm just, I'm done. 0.97
01:20:41.000 I'm frustrated with conservatives who will not defend themselves to save their own political ideology.
01:20:48.000 It just frustrates me.
01:20:52.000 But this ad has a history.
01:20:55.000 Reagan got famous in between his 76 and 80 loss talking about welfare queens.
01:21:00.000 And he accurately showed who it was and that the policies of the Great Society had created this mess.
01:21:08.000 And here is what I would say is amateur hour.
01:21:11.000 Someone said welfare.
01:21:13.000 I've seen the polling welfare to work.
01:21:15.000 Polls well among voters, they say.
01:21:18.000 But if you don't know where the heartbeat of the Republican Party or the conservative movement or just America is, you do an ad like this.
01:21:26.000 I mean, imagine naming that person Brad.
01:21:28.000 Like, it's actually like taunting everybody that knows Judd and Chad and all the rest of it.
01:21:35.000 And for her to think that this turns out anybody.
01:21:37.000 And by the way, Arkansas, she does have a problem. 1.00
01:21:39.000 She's not very popular down there. 0.98
01:21:41.000 So she's doing something to try to react to that.
01:21:43.000 That's what's going on.
01:21:44.000 But I mean, again, end of her career.
01:21:46.000 And Tim, I don't know what you mean.
01:21:48.000 What do you want?
01:21:49.000 You want Brad to defend himself or us to throw her under the bus?
01:21:53.000 I'm saying her career is over.
01:21:55.000 She will never be on a national ticket. 1.00
01:21:57.000 So she exemplifies the fact that I'm not going to call out the actual abuse in the welfare system, which is largely coming from migrants. 1.00
01:22:08.000 It's coming from single baby mamas in the black community. 1.00
01:22:13.000 Right. 0.78
01:22:14.000 It's not coming from young white Gen Z guys.
01:22:17.000 They're too afraid to say it, so they won't. 0.50
01:22:20.000 At the same time, I also will kind of push over the edge.
01:22:23.000 And I saw a clip.
01:22:24.000 And with all due respect, I know people get mad because it feels like I'm attacking the little guy.
01:22:29.000 But Crowder's got his debate going on right now.
01:22:32.000 And there was a woman who said that she has to lie about her politics to graduate.
01:22:35.000 Don't go to that school.
01:22:37.000 I'm done.
01:22:38.000 I'm not sympathizing with you when you choose to go to a woke university, pretend to be liberal, lie on your papers, and say, please validate me, woke professor.
01:22:49.000 I'm so sick of this.
01:22:51.000 When I was a teenager, I had a friend who was getting paid $3 an hour working as a waitress.
01:22:57.000 And she was like, it's not fair.
01:22:59.000 We need to raise the minimum wage and guarantee staff wages.
01:23:02.000 And I said, you can quit.
01:23:04.000 She was like, well, no, I need the job.
01:23:05.000 And I'm like, okay, well, if they're not paying you enough, you clearly need a better job, so quit.
01:23:10.000 And she's like, I can't.
01:23:11.000 Like, I have to have a job.
01:23:13.000 And I said, okay, then go to all the other employees and tell them all to get together and quit at the same time, demand a $2 an hour raise.
01:23:21.000 And she said, no, I won't do that.
01:23:23.000 I say, then don't complain to me and demand that we change laws for you when you won't take the first step.
01:23:32.000 To improving your life.
01:23:33.000 So, again, with all due respect, I understand it is stressful, it is difficult.
01:23:38.000 But if you have decided that you are going to bend the knee to these people, don't be surprised when they lord over you for 20 years.
01:23:49.000 Look, if you're going to steal me and her argument or her ad, at the end, Brad gets a job and it's like, oh, look, this is maybe something good. 0.99
01:24:01.000 But you can't deny the fact that, like, young white men have got kind of the shit into the stick for the past decade or so, since 2015. 0.98
01:24:10.000 I forget what the article was, but we talked about it on the show before today. 0.99
01:24:15.000 What was it?
01:24:16.000 The article about the discrimination against young white men.
01:24:21.000 Oh, right.
01:24:21.000 Yeah.
01:24:22.000 And the compact.
01:24:22.000 That was in the compact.
01:24:24.000 And it's true.
01:24:25.000 Like, John Doyle was talking about it recently.
01:24:27.000 It's like young white men actually are discriminated against.
01:24:31.000 And I think the reason that she went with this. 0.58
01:24:33.000 Isn't so much that she has a bone to pick with young white men, but because the fact that it's safe if you put any other person in there. 0.54
01:24:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:24:40.000 Republicans are too scared to say there are black women abusing the welfare system and we're giving too much money to illegal and legal immigrants. 1.00
01:24:49.000 I mean, imagine. 0.96
01:24:49.000 They're too scared to say. 0.96
01:24:50.000 Donald Trump. 0.97
01:24:50.000 Imagine if Democrats in California cut an ad painting, you know, a Chinese guy as like just this, like really incompetent. 0.97
01:24:56.000 Like it'd be so stupid because it's like, that's your base. 1.00
01:24:59.000 Like, what are you doing? 0.97
01:25:00.000 So it's like, just don't make the ad at all.
01:25:02.000 It's going to be popular.
01:25:02.000 Don't make it.
01:25:03.000 People are going to like it.
01:25:05.000 If that's your, like, don't even make the ad at all because you've just antagonized who, like, in large part, I can attest to this personally, make up the majority of your activist space.
01:25:13.000 So everyone's like, okay, well, they don't vote.
01:25:15.000 Yes, that's true, but they do provide you the muscle.
01:25:17.000 Those are the ones knocking on doors.
01:25:19.000 Those are the guys who are going to, like, staff a lot of these administrations.
01:25:21.000 If you alienate them, you potentially, they're not going to go to the left, but they're just going to tap out.
01:25:25.000 They're going to be doing cow sheet and sports betting. 0.54
01:25:27.000 It's like when you see these home security company commercials and the burglars are always like middle aged white guys.
01:25:32.000 Yeah.
01:25:33.000 Yeah.
01:25:33.000 Like, I'm sorry.
01:25:34.000 That's just not the demographic of people that are committing these crimes.
01:25:38.000 You know, I have a problem with this. 0.97
01:25:40.000 There is nothing wrong with saying that a majority of like murders are committed by young black men. 0.79
01:25:45.000 That is just a statistic and it says nothing about the individual black person. 0.93
01:25:49.000 It is not disparaging in any way to your average or any other black person to point out there are criminals that are disproportionately committed by young black men. 0.78
01:25:59.000 That's it. 0.98
01:26:00.000 But what we see here is, as Phil pointed out, and I think has already been said several times, but I'll say it again, it is safe to attack white men. 0.98
01:26:10.000 It is safe because white men aren't going to do anything about it. 0.53
01:26:14.000 And if she goes after the actual demographics that are abusing welfare, she's like, I would lose every single one of those votes.
01:26:21.000 So, you know what? 0.85
01:26:23.000 White people are going to vote for. 0.63
01:26:24.000 And this is kind of the point that I was making with, and not for anybody here, not for the people who are obviously standing up and pushing back. 0.67
01:26:30.000 But as we're looking at this, you know, I've got X pulled up on monitoring news and I see at Crowder's debate, this woman said she had to lie about her political beliefs, lie on her paperwork, otherwise she wouldn't graduate. 0.94
01:26:40.000 And I was like, Congratulations, you bent the knee to woke lunatics. 0.94
01:26:43.000 So that they would validate you. 0.96
01:26:44.000 I hope it works out for you.
01:26:45.000 Congratulations, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
01:26:48.000 The white people, white conservatives, are going to vote for her despite this ad.
01:26:53.000 Like you said, what are you going to do?
01:26:54.000 Vote for a Marxist?
01:26:55.000 They're going to bend over and take this stuff.
01:26:57.000 So I don't know what the answer is.
01:27:00.000 I'm just, I'll tell people this.
01:27:01.000 If you won't stand up for yourself, you know what?
01:27:03.000 I'll put it this way.
01:27:05.000 If you don't have the fortitude to stand up for yourself, don't expect me to.
01:27:10.000 Yeah, well, I think you should look at it from a slightly different perspective, which is.
01:27:15.000 No young men, young, let's just say, specifically young white men aren't going to vote Democrat.
01:27:19.000 That's likely not going to happen.
01:27:21.000 But you're going to lose an engine room.
01:27:24.000 And it's okay to say young white men are probably destined to vote Republican because among young white men, they are more right wing than millennials.
01:27:32.000 And I think potentially even Gen X would say.
01:27:34.000 They'll stay home.
01:27:35.000 Certainly.
01:27:35.000 But when you just basically nuke them from orbit, they're not going to be excited to vote Republicans.
01:27:42.000 They're not going to be wanting to go work for them.
01:27:43.000 Certainly.
01:27:44.000 Because it's like, why am I going to stick my neck out for you?
01:27:47.000 When you couldn't even not just stick your neck out for me, but you couldn't even resist attacking me. 0.99
01:27:50.000 I mean, it's just like completely ridiculous. 0.87
01:27:52.000 So they're going to lose that engine room who they're going to need.
01:27:55.000 I mean, they don't need it right now per se, but they're going to need it in the next five to 10 years.
01:27:59.000 And a lot of them are going to remember this.
01:28:00.000 A lot of them aren't going to like say, well, I was about to take that job, but I remember that Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
01:28:04.000 No, but it compounds. 0.99
01:28:05.000 It's just demoralization after more demoralization.
01:28:08.000 They just tap out.
01:28:09.000 They're like, I'm just going to get really into football or something.
01:28:10.000 And they're not going to be interested in this anymore.
01:28:12.000 All right, let's jump to a story that I was hoping we wouldn't have to cover, but I guess we're going to have to cover it.
01:28:17.000 It's got 10 million plus views.
01:28:20.000 I saw the story earlier. 1.00
01:28:22.000 It's going massively viral because so many people hate Candace Owens. 0.99
01:28:26.000 But you got this guy in X who says exclusive Candace Owens is a lesbian with four dating accounts. 1.00
01:28:32.000 And she cheated on her Hebrew speaking husband with girls in 2022.
01:28:36.000 I found four of her dating profiles, and there is some crude drawing of Candace licking a hairless cat.
01:28:43.000 Oh. 0.99
01:28:44.000 And it says, Candace Owens, the cheating lesbian funded by a Zionist. 1.00
01:28:48.000 Oh my God. 0.92
01:28:50.000 It's got 8.8 million views plus insane amounts of quotes, and it is the second top trending story on X right now.
01:28:57.000 I saw this story earlier and I said, I'm not going anywhere near this.
01:29:00.000 I actually, I think this guy emailed me.
01:29:04.000 And it said something like the dirt on Candace.
01:29:05.000 And I was like, no, I don't do this stuff.
01:29:07.000 I'm not playing this game.
01:29:08.000 Well, you know, other people wanted to play that game.
01:29:10.000 So here you go.
01:29:12.000 I'll give you the gist of it.
01:29:13.000 So I've got to go through literally every single thing in this weird Scooby Doo themed expose.
01:29:19.000 Apparently, she's got accounts on YouTube that it does appear they're legit.
01:29:25.000 They're regular, like a regular YouTube account, using a specific username.
01:29:30.000 That same username is attached to gay dating profiles that I believe many of them don't have her face, but it shows a young black woman.
01:29:39.000 And that's part of the corroborating information, I guess.
01:29:43.000 So, I don't know.
01:29:44.000 We'll scroll down a little bit.
01:29:46.000 Chapter one.
01:29:48.000 It's apparently she's got, I don't know.
01:29:51.000 Look, you can read through it yourself.
01:29:52.000 I don't want to go through all this stuff.
01:29:54.000 But she uses certain usernames that appear on gay dating profiles, and the same username appears on other profiles that are very obviously her.
01:30:06.000 And so that's largely the argument.
01:30:08.000 And then there's some videos where you can hear her voice and stuff like this.
01:30:11.000 Yeah, I'm not going to play all that.
01:30:14.000 But.
01:30:16.000 It's hilarious. 0.99
01:30:17.000 The cheating lesbian funded by a Zionist, the deconstruction of Candace, Candace Owens' hidden homosexuality, the federal agent promoting real Candace O to become president so he can blackmail her with a sex tape, and the Zionist who secretly owns her anti Zionist business. 0.99
01:30:32.000 Oh my God. 0.98
01:30:34.000 Well, what I will say is there was a big scandal because her lawyer was like one of the most prominent Zionists. 0.99
01:30:38.000 I don't know if you guys saw this. 0.97
01:30:40.000 It's like weird.
01:30:42.000 I don't know.
01:30:43.000 Welcome to the news cycle, I guess.
01:30:45.000 This is the news.
01:30:46.000 Say words.
01:30:49.000 Say words.
01:30:49.000 Well, look, I mean, when you're someone as popular as Candace Owens, or someone that has made as much news as Candace Owens has in the past couple of years, if you have skeletons in your closet, people are going to be looking for them.
01:31:05.000 And I mean, obviously, I don't know how legitimate this stuff is.
01:31:08.000 It looks like there might be some substance to it. 0.94
01:31:10.000 I saw the tweets myself and I scrolled on by because I don't give much of a crap about Candace Owens. 0.92
01:31:15.000 Or the drama kind of stuff, but you know. 1.00
01:31:18.000 But who gives a crap if she's gay anyway? 0.99
01:31:21.000 I guess the idea is like, if you're going to put in the headline, she's funded by Zionists, I can kind of tell the kind of people that are going to be sharing this and posting it. 0.99
01:31:31.000 Probably anti Zionists. 0.86
01:31:32.000 Yeah.
01:31:33.000 And I don't know.
01:31:35.000 Honestly, it would make sense that she's propped up as controlled opposition if someone was going to make that argument. 0.96
01:31:42.000 I don't really care to argue that she's gay if she is gay. 0.63
01:31:45.000 Like, my response, like when I saw the email, someone emailed me and they were like, you got to see the story.
01:31:49.000 I'm like, Good for her if she's gay, whatever. 0.98
01:31:51.000 She's in a sham marriage. 1.00
01:31:51.000 I don't know. 1.00
01:31:52.000 I don't know, whatever.
01:31:53.000 Like, I'm not here to rag on someone for being gay. 0.92
01:31:55.000 You can do that. 0.94
01:31:56.000 That's fine.
01:31:57.000 I think part of the impulse for people to do this is the fact that she's gotten so down in the mud with stuff.
01:32:04.000 And people are like, oh, well, if this is the type of salacious stuff that Candace Owens is involved or interested in reporting, finding out that she has a salacious past or whatever, people are going to be like, look, you lie down with pigs, you get covered in mud.
01:32:23.000 That's the way that media works.
01:32:26.000 And if you're.
01:32:27.000 You know, involved in this kind of stuff again, I don't have I gotta, I gotta say that she is, but like the picture they drew is it's pretty good, yeah.
01:32:36.000 You pull that up, I was like, What is this going to be?
01:32:38.000 It's just a test to the ironclad reporting of, yeah, exactly one of the best, misreputable outlets.
01:32:45.000 Yeah, I think they're in the new White House press pool.
01:32:48.000 You can see the mystery wagon outside of the white.
01:32:52.000 Could you imagine if like Laura Loomer asks, like, the one of the one of the the whole the stand in press briefings, you know, just like. 0.99
01:32:59.000 Can you comment on Candace Owens being a cheating lesbian funded by Zionists? 0.70
01:33:03.000 Or if they're in the press. 0.93
01:33:04.000 Well, so, yeah, John Smith, Mystery Machine News.
01:33:06.000 Yeah, I was wondering if they were on.
01:33:09.000 Has Laura Loomer tweeted about this yet?
01:33:11.000 She did.
01:33:12.000 She's way down.
01:33:13.000 Again, I was like, I don't care. 0.91
01:33:13.000 She did. 0.91
01:33:16.000 It's not news, okay? 0.85
01:33:17.000 Like, if Candace is gay, whatever. 0.98
01:33:18.000 She can be gay. 0.96
01:33:19.000 But it's trending on X. 0.93
01:33:21.000 It's like the trending news right now.
01:33:24.000 And I just muted everything that you could possibly, like, you know, if you're even referencing her in some vague way, I haven't muted.
01:33:31.000 So I just am completely.
01:33:33.000 Out of the can, so you missed the shocking reporting from Mystery Machine News.
01:33:37.000 I'm usually glued to my television set. 0.97
01:33:41.000 Why go with the stupidest brand you could to go like if you've got this big expose, call it like the World News Times or something, you know what I mean? 0.99
01:33:50.000 Not like shaggyism from the Mystery Machine. 0.99
01:33:54.000 I'm curious, the whole philosophy there, too.
01:33:57.000 He's already changed his bio to the man who defeated Candace Owens, claiming victory already.
01:34:03.000 Yeah, it's just fascinating.
01:34:04.000 This is the kind of stuff that has me saying, like, I'm checking out.
01:34:04.000 I got to be honest.
01:34:07.000 Like, with some renegade, hard hitting journalism?
01:34:10.000 That's no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm watching.
01:34:12.000 I watched a, did you guys know there was a pro data center party the other day in DC?
01:34:15.000 Oh, yeah.
01:34:16.000 A bunch of conservatives got together and had a big event, and it was in favor of data centers.
01:34:20.000 And people were asking, like, what are you here?
01:34:22.000 And there's a woman, and she's like, I love the internet.
01:34:24.000 And it's, and then some protesters, some protester woman showed up and started screaming, they're stealing all our water. 0.97
01:34:29.000 And I'm just like, okay, everyone's retarded. 0.91
01:34:33.000 Maybe we really just need to go watch some football and have some fun. 1.00
01:34:35.000 Just need to return to like feudalism.
01:34:36.000 Watch football and see if Trevor Lawrence is taking a knee.
01:34:39.000 We need feudalism.
01:34:39.000 Well, I mean, like when politics is.
01:34:42.000 Now I get politicians, you know, why Mitch McConnell or Mike Johnson is just like, we're not going to do any of this stuff.
01:34:47.000 Jonathan's like, we're not going to pass the Save Act.
01:34:49.000 They're sitting there being like, you want these people actually in control?
01:34:52.000 And I'm like, you know, this.
01:34:56.000 You know, it's really mind blowing to me.
01:34:58.000 There's a new show coming out on Hulu.
01:34:59.000 I forgot what it's called, but I was talking to Mershall Ford today.
01:35:03.000 And it looked like Schoolhouse Rock or whatever.
01:35:07.000 And I'm just like, and then I was talking to my wife, and I was like, you know, like Toys R Us, there was like some report that toy sales are up amongst adults or something like this.
01:35:16.000 Oh, yeah.
01:35:16.000 Majority.
01:35:16.000 And I'm just like, majority of sales.
01:35:19.000 This is the state.
01:35:21.000 Like, what am I doing here?
01:35:21.000 Okay, you know what?
01:35:23.000 You know, I mean, I could.
01:35:25.000 You could be opening packs of Pokemon.
01:35:27.000 I was going to say, I got right behind me, right behind me.
01:35:30.000 You can't see it anymore because we moved it over.
01:35:31.000 I'll move it back.
01:35:32.000 I've got a blue neon chocobo card.
01:35:36.000 Blue neon chocobo card.
01:35:37.000 You want to look up the value on that blue neon chocobo card?
01:35:41.000 Blue neon chocolate.
01:35:42.000 Blue neon chocobo.
01:35:44.000 We ain't playing around.
01:35:45.000 How do you spell chocobo?
01:35:47.000 It's phonetic.
01:35:48.000 C H O C O B O. Chocobo.
01:35:52.000 Don't you know anything, Phil?
01:35:53.000 No, I don't.
01:35:53.000 Chocolate bow.
01:35:54.000 I feel like, yeah, spelling it phonetically actually confuses me more.
01:35:57.000 Yeah, I guess because it's a C, not a K. Blue Neon Chocobo.
01:36:01.000 Come on. 0.99
01:36:02.000 Chocobo.
01:36:03.000 Between $1,900 and $2,500.
01:36:06.000 For ungraded near mint condition copies, the current market range is between $1,900 and $2,500.
01:36:10.000 Fresh out the pack in a double sleeve, placed inside our little box.
01:36:15.000 I also have an ancestral recall.
01:36:17.000 A PSA 10 mint grade is, examples exceed $3,900 to $9,009.
01:36:24.000 Wow.
01:36:25.000 I doubt it's 10 because you've got to get lucky to pull a 10.
01:36:28.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:36:28.000 But, you know, nine to 9.5 is like typical when you open a pack, just because there's always some kind of blemish. 0.96
01:36:35.000 But I could be spending my days cracking packs of, we got a reality fracture coming out for Magic the Gathering.
01:36:42.000 You know, I could just open booster packs and make a ton of money instead of whatever this is.
01:36:47.000 You know, that's true.
01:36:48.000 I mean, like, people are passionate.
01:36:51.000 But I say it again, you know, like, we're chickens in a chicken coop because I look at a lot of this stuff and I'm just like, this is what people want to talk about. 0.98
01:36:59.000 Like when I'm on the street and then I see the Jehovah's Witness doing their thing, I stop now. 0.99
01:36:59.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99
01:37:03.000 I'm like, tell me more about your thing again.
01:37:06.000 Well, because here's the reality.
01:37:08.000 I mean, what are you fighting for in politics with a story like this?
01:37:13.000 What are you hoping to accomplish?
01:37:15.000 Because if you're hoping to accomplish real change, like if you think Candace is negatively impacting the state of political affairs, this is not the most effective thing that a smart person could do to stop her.
01:37:28.000 The smartest thing you could do would be to make as much money as possible and influence, control, and other systems.
01:37:33.000 If you have control of a large business, you can actually manipulate with that business other industries.
01:37:42.000 You can do things like we see at these universities and subsidize ideas. 0.95
01:37:45.000 Making a blog that insults her for being gay doesn't actually do anything. 0.99
01:37:50.000 You know? 0.95
01:37:51.000 Well, no, but score settling.
01:37:53.000 I don't know if it's maybe a score settling.
01:37:55.000 I guess.
01:37:56.000 This is just this person trying to use Candace as a springboard for their own, you know, intent or for attention.
01:38:02.000 That's why he's already changed his name to.
01:38:04.000 The man that took Kansas Owens down or whatever.
01:38:07.000 But that's what I'm talking about.
01:38:07.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:38:08.000 Why I'm saying, like, dude, am I really going to.
01:38:12.000 Is this really what we're doing?
01:38:14.000 Too much of politics is just.
01:38:17.000 Remember the snizmogger? 1.00
01:38:19.000 What was her? 1.00
01:38:21.000 Snizmogger? 1.00
01:38:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:38:23.000 What were people calling her? 1.00
01:38:26.000 The woman who was spreading her legs and being conservative. 1.00
01:38:28.000 Oh, yeah, I know you're talking about that.
01:38:29.000 What's the word of truth?
01:38:29.000 I don't remember what her name was.
01:38:30.000 I don't remember. 0.99
01:38:31.000 Yeah, it was something mogging.
01:38:33.000 I don't know.
01:38:34.000 I mean, because it's like.
01:38:36.000 Oh, cooter mogging.
01:38:37.000 Cooter mogging. 0.71
01:38:37.000 Yeah, it's the cooter mogger. 0.71
01:38:38.000 Yes. 1.00
01:38:39.000 She, well, she's just selling her OnlyFans. 0.94
01:38:41.000 They all are. 0.95
01:38:42.000 Well, I don't know that he, that Shaggy has a YouTube channel.
01:38:44.000 I got another one to pull up for you guys. 1.00
01:38:45.000 I got another one to pull up for you guys.
01:38:46.000 Let me see if I can find this.
01:38:48.000 Cooter mine.
01:38:51.000 I got a video here from, I think it's the New York Times.
01:38:54.000 Everything's fake.
01:38:55.000 Everybody's lying. 1.00
01:38:56.000 Instagram is dumb. 1.00
01:38:57.000 Here's the video Exodus. 1.00
01:38:59.000 I'm an ex trad wife.
01:39:00.000 The first thing I do every morning is check to see if my child support's been baked yet.
01:39:04.000 There is a new category of social media influencer, trad wife.
01:39:04.000 God.
01:39:09.000 The influencer.
01:39:10.000 I was an 18 year old trad wife who had a baby at the same age, and I'm 36 now, and I'm here to tell you don't do it.
01:39:17.000 The trad wife trend really came to prominence as the MAGA movement was rising, as Trump was coming into office the first time.
01:39:27.000 What these trad wife accounts are keying into is conservative political movements in the United States.
01:39:34.000 But the trad wife social media trend is waning.
01:39:39.000 Following a bunch of trad wife accounts a few years ago, I was particularly interested in this one by this woman, Bernadine Bluntly.
01:39:48.000 She would make these videos that were about how traditional roles prescribe that women should be submissive to their husbands. 1.00
01:39:56.000 Shout out to the men who do these hard jobs, who take these risks so society can function.
01:40:00.000 Soon she would have 140,000 YouTube subscribers.
01:40:04.000 Eventually, it is her income from Instagram, YouTube, and online courses that she sells to young women that sustains her, her husband, and their six children.
01:40:16.000 A couple of months ago, I noticed a new video on her feed.
01:40:21.000 I can no longer align with the trad movement as it exists today.
01:40:25.000 She is not the only one who is distancing herself from the trad movement.
01:40:30.000 Recently, Nara Smith went on the Call Her Daddy podcast.
01:40:33.000 People started to compare you to trad wife.
01:40:35.000 They kind of used me as the poster child for the trad wife movement, which was very bizarre to me.
01:40:35.000 Yeah.
01:40:40.000 A lot of women who were recruited into the trad movement are recruited when they are very young, when they're 17, 18, a few years out.
01:40:50.000 They are women who have multiple children and are starting to understand.
01:40:55.000 That the fantasy of that life that was sold to them is not what the reality is like. 0.99
01:41:02.000 Many women are finding that it's dangerous if they put all of their trust, all of their power, all of their money in the hands of a man who abuses it.
01:41:13.000 What I found talking to these women is many of them feel like their lives could not have gotten worse.
01:41:19.000 What I initially thought was a return to strong family values has, in many cases, devolved into just control, legalism, and an online ideal that doesn't hold up in real life.
01:41:30.000 Today, Bernadine is divorced.
01:41:32.000 She shares custody of her six children.
01:41:34.000 Are we in a trad?
01:41:36.000 So, the internet is completely fake.
01:41:39.000 And I think for the most part, there is no truth, only argument.
01:41:43.000 The New York Times is lying, but this is what the internet and politics is.
01:41:48.000 Isolating a handful of women who've had bad experiences and then saying trad wife is over does not actually mean it's over. 0.97
01:41:56.000 Hence, they play everyone's favorite game. 0.81
01:41:59.000 She says, Is the trad wife movement over? 0.57
01:42:03.000 And I forgot the name of the law, Behringer or something like that, any headline that asks a question can be answered with the word no.
01:42:14.000 So, what the New York Times is doing, taking a handful of accounts with bad experiences and then trying to convince you that women don't want to be trad wives.
01:42:25.000 At the same time, the accounts they're isolating probably were grifters in the first place people who are saying, I'm a trad wife because it got them followers and made them money.
01:42:36.000 This is the internet, and this is the large majority of politics.
01:42:40.000 That's the unfortunate reality.
01:42:43.000 There are people who are voting based on what they currently believe.
01:42:45.000 Their beliefs can change, and you are being lied to by the media.
01:42:50.000 As always, the overwhelming majority of media is not interested, and this is independent or otherwise, they're not interested in telling you the truth.
01:42:59.000 They're interested in you agreeing with their worldview for the purpose of empowering their worldview for some reason.
01:43:06.000 It's not all bad when I say it like that. 1.00
01:43:09.000 Somebody who thinks I need to get people to agree with me on, like, you know, not transing kids or whatever, we get is a good thing. 1.00
01:43:16.000 The question is, are you fighting for truth so that people can make these decisions or are you pretending? 0.98
01:43:22.000 And I think the sad reality is the overwhelming majority of people have been lying from the get go.
01:43:29.000 We just sometimes overlap in what our moral worldviews are.
01:43:33.000 I do believe there is inherent good and objective evil.
01:43:37.000 I don't think that lying is always evil.
01:43:40.000 My point is that there are people who believe they're justified in manipulating others because their end goals are the good one.
01:43:46.000 And this is exactly what we're seeing right now.
01:43:48.000 So, my point ultimately is everything's fake.
01:43:52.000 Nobody's making real arguments.
01:43:53.000 And we exist in a world where the likes of the New York Times, as well as these influencers, are trying to manipulate you for some reason, largely to make money.
01:44:00.000 And I wish you good luck. 0.75
01:44:02.000 Well, I mean, the New York Times criticizing the trad wife movement is not in any way a surprise to anybody, right? 0.62
01:44:09.000 Like, this particular woman, I assume that she probably considers herself a feminist.
01:44:16.000 Any kind of narrative that. 0.99
01:44:18.000 Tells young women, hey, maybe it's good to have a family. 0.53
01:44:21.000 Maybe it's good to have a husband.
01:44:25.000 That's something that the progressive movement has been kind of against for as long as I can remember.
01:44:31.000 Particularly when she's saying she's basically trotting out all of the old arguments against marriage.
01:44:37.000 Oh, you could be with an abusive man.
01:44:40.000 You're going to be beholden to him and you're not going to have any money and blah, blah, blah.
01:44:45.000 You should get your career first. 0.99
01:44:46.000 These are all old tropes that the The feminist movement has been telling young women forever. 0.94
01:44:51.000 And so this is just rehashing the same old arguments and using, you know, a couple people that had a bad experience as the example. 0.83
01:45:02.000 Yeah, I mean, all the trad wives aren't talking about it. 0.84
01:45:04.000 All the actual traditional women, like, don't have an online presence. 0.96
01:45:08.000 They're just married with kids. 1.00
01:45:10.000 But the New York Times goal here is just to push feminism. 1.00
01:45:12.000 Right.
01:45:13.000 I was going to say, I think earlier I said something that I didn't think that the mainstream media was brainwashing.
01:45:18.000 And you watched this, and I said to you in the middle, is that a journalist?
01:45:21.000 I mean, if you think about how that's structured, how this preachy woman is laying out this argument, and as you say, it's totally fake, but you don't even know how fake it is.
01:45:30.000 I mean, it's, and yet it's effective.
01:45:33.000 How many times is that viewed?
01:45:34.000 I mean, it's probably, well, it's got 160,000 likes, so probably a lot of views.
01:45:39.000 Yeah.
01:45:39.000 Right.
01:45:40.000 And they know what they're doing.
01:45:41.000 I mean, again, they know what they're doing in influencing people.
01:45:44.000 And, you know, here we are with New York Times.
01:45:46.000 You know, I think that shows like this are just.
01:45:53.000 The winds caught us at the right time because almost everybody I meet is knowingly lying.
01:45:59.000 Like when Kyla pretended to have a fight with me, so that it's like they were like, wait, you're not playing the grift?
01:46:06.000 I'm so confused.
01:46:07.000 Like you can just lie about what's going on, and I would play along for the purpose of getting views.
01:46:12.000 People start fake beef on the internet to get attention, to get views.
01:46:16.000 And I think I got to be honest, a small amount of shows that I think are actually trying to be honest.
01:46:23.000 And, uh, The rest are just trying to figure out how to maximize audience size and make money.
01:46:31.000 Yeah, it's unfortunate, but you're going to see this kind of pushback from the left.
01:46:38.000 And that's the entirety of this Instagram reel, in my opinion. 0.98
01:46:42.000 It's a way to strike at women that think, hey, I should do traditional things. 0.99
01:46:48.000 But to Tate's point, actual trad wives, they're not really on the internet doing that stuff. 1.00
01:46:54.000 They're taking care of their family, they're doing actually traditional stuff, not being.
01:47:00.000 You know, social media influencers.
01:47:01.000 Yeah, well, they have like 20 bodies, so they're cleaning up the crime scene with the aesthetic.
01:47:06.000 That's what's, I mean, that's seriously what's going on. 0.97
01:47:07.000 And like all these women, I bet, yeah, they're probably like divorced and now they gotta like, you know, recreate themselves or whatever. 0.94
01:47:13.000 Half of them probably weren't even calling themselves trad wives before, but now they're coming out on the other side and they're like, yeah, that's exactly.
01:47:19.000 Yeah, the second one, she's like, I used to be a trad wife.
01:47:19.000 Well, like that.
01:47:21.000 No, she's probably just saying that because it gets views.
01:47:23.000 Guys, go on Instagram and just swipe the carousel and you will probably see in one hour 300 accounts.
01:47:31.000 Of people that may have well have just posted, please follow me.
01:47:35.000 It's insane.
01:47:37.000 And it really makes me want to go live in a van down by the river. 0.65
01:47:40.000 Didn't the one girl say she had like a baby at 18 and now she's 36, and uh, something's like, how long has a trad wife been like popularized like this? 0.78
01:47:52.000 And also, what are they trying to achieve by like you know trying to make people not want to have more children?
01:47:58.000 I don't get it. 0.99
01:47:59.000 Well, this is like I said, this is just the same feminist tropes that have been, yeah, you know, trotted out forever. 0.97
01:48:05.000 It's it's the you know, you're you could get into a bad relationship, you need to get a career first, you can you can wait to have kids, etc., etc.
01:48:12.000 Um, and for a long time, you heard women saying, Look, I regret, or you've heard women, you know, saying, I regret the fact that I didn't have kids in when I was young, and now I'm 35, and I can't find a man that wants to settle down or that wants to have children with me, or you know, I froze my eggs, and now I'm, you know, in my 40s, and we're having problems actually having a kid, and etc.
01:48:34.000 These are all real things that women are experiencing.
01:48:37.000 And yes, there are some women that end up in bad marriages or whatever that does happen, but it doesn't change the fact that young women.
01:48:45.000 If they actually do want a family, the best time to do it is when you're young because that's when you're most likely to be able to conceive.
01:48:54.000 That's just the other thing, too, is if we hadn't, if we got rid of no fault divorce, this woman would not be divorced.
01:49:00.000 People just had to, you know, like work hard for their families and it was expected in society.
01:49:05.000 Yeah, we're like dating, you're practicing divorce every time you break up because these people typically will date for like three or four years and then break up.
01:49:12.000 And it's like you've just like thrown away three to four years of something with someone and.
01:49:17.000 People typically engage in all the behaviors that were historically reserved for a marriage.
01:49:20.000 Now it's part and parcel.
01:49:21.000 So you're like primed for divorce already.
01:49:24.000 So it really is no wonder why this tends to happen. 1.00
01:49:28.000 Ex trad wife is really like a redundant thing to say. 0.98
01:49:30.000 You're just a divorced woman.
01:49:31.000 Like, presumably, the marriage that you were in did feature like gender dynamics. 0.98
01:49:37.000 You can't get away.
01:49:38.000 There's no such thing as like a truly like egalitarian marriage.
01:49:41.000 Like, yeah, there's probably some aspects the males like to do and the females like to do, and that doesn't overlap.
01:49:46.000 So then you can go back and say, well, I wasn't a trad wife. 0.94
01:49:49.000 It's just like, yeah, she's very redundant.
01:49:51.000 They probably don't really have much reach because I don't think any women are aspiring to be trad wives or just aspiring to be wives with children. 0.86
01:49:59.000 And if that is now traditional, so be it. 0.70
01:50:02.000 But these women that are actually like, you know, like my fiance, she's, I would say she probably possesses fairly traditional values, but she doesn't have those because the internet told her to do so. 0.65
01:50:13.000 It's just like she's a woman that's like naturally, which I'm not a trad husband.
01:50:17.000 I'm just like aspiring to have children. 0.95
01:50:19.000 I guess that makes you traditional now.
01:50:22.000 So. 1.00
01:50:23.000 Yeah, this is like just because we're in such a horrific gender zeitgeist right now. 1.00
01:50:28.000 I guess these terms do like have possess meaning, but they really didn't 10 years ago.
01:50:32.000 Like, trad wife wasn't invented, it's just gender dynamics, marriage, dating, et cetera, broke down so much that now we had to invent a term for someone that possesses natural gender roles.
01:50:42.000 And I think that's really the more important story in all of this.
01:50:46.000 Yep. 1.00
01:50:47.000 It's all fake and gay. 1.00
01:50:47.000 The idea. 1.00
01:50:48.000 Well, yeah, I mean, that sums up what Tate was saying.
01:50:52.000 Like, the idea of trad wife is actually fake, right? 0.94
01:50:55.000 Like, it was just normal. 0.79
01:50:58.000 Up until 1965, or whenever they invented the birth control pill.
01:51:04.000 Which is why, like, back to my initial point, which is someone that is openly identifying as a trad wife, they're possessing these aesthetics, but they're posting online, likely indicates they're hiding something or they're trying to cover up.
01:51:14.000 They're trying to overcompensate for something that happened in the past.
01:51:17.000 And that's why, like, yeah, these people that are engaging in this way, I'm sure there's outliers.
01:51:21.000 I mean, I can't think of any, but I'm sure there are that are like online trad wife influencers.
01:51:28.000 But yeah, if they possess that desire to, like, You know, shout to the rooftops how great this lifestyle is.
01:51:35.000 They're probably juxtaposing it with something in their past that wasn't traditional.
01:51:38.000 And that's why all of a sudden I've discovered this traditional aesthetic and I'm going to make it my whole thing.
01:51:42.000 Because likely what happened in the past wasn't traditional.
01:51:44.000 And so they have that contrast in their head, where most women that you would classify as trad wives or whatever, they've been traditional their whole life.
01:51:51.000 So they don't have this past to juxtapose it to.
01:51:54.000 So it doesn't occur to them to call themselves trad wives. 0.84
01:51:57.000 And so, yeah, when you see women identifying this way or have this almost minstrel act of how a traditional woman ought to act, you should evaluate them with serious suspicion and scrutiny because there's likely something going on there. 0.95
01:52:12.000 And we've seen countless, you know, how many times have we seen the Tridewife turns out to not be so traditional with the way she's carried herself? 0.99
01:52:19.000 We're going to grab your Rumble Rants and Super Chat. 0.60
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01:52:25.000 And the uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 p.m.
01:52:27.000 You don't want to miss it.
01:52:29.000 Grim Creeper says the ATF just stated the other day that forced reset triggers are, in fact, actually machine guns.
01:52:36.000 People need to be ready for knocks on their door.
01:52:39.000 Could you, I mean, you mentioned it, Preach.
01:52:40.000 Could you outline some of the victories you had on the door?
01:52:42.000 Well, the big one, guys, that I'm really, I'm glad we came back around to it is.
01:52:47.000 In 1992, there was a law passed that said you could apply if you lost your Second Amendment rights, you could apply and get them back.
01:52:54.000 Because there are now, today, up to 30 million people who have what's called a disability on their Second Amendment rights.
01:53:00.000 If you were discharged from the military, if you had various offenses, including convictions, you'd lose your Second Amendment rights.
01:53:06.000 In 1992, it passes.
01:53:08.000 All these years later, we never got it implemented.
01:53:11.000 It was defunded by the left.
01:53:13.000 Senator Feinstein made it her life's goal to defund it.
01:53:16.000 George W. Bush never got it done.
01:53:18.000 Trump won, never got it done.
01:53:19.000 In the last about 15 months, we implemented the program and it opened up.
01:53:23.000 And so there are, like I said, 30 million people that could apply to get their rights back, Second Amendment rights back.
01:53:29.000 Likely number is probably 5 million that would be eligible.
01:53:32.000 You know, if you're in prison for a double murder using a gun, you're not going to get your Second Amendment rights back.
01:53:36.000 But so that's what's ongoing.
01:53:39.000 And if you go to the website that we started with, justice.gov slash FFRR, Federal Firearms Rights Restoration.
01:53:45.000 So justice.gov slash FFRR.
01:53:48.000 And you can see the program that's been implemented.
01:53:51.000 It's in three stages.
01:53:52.000 One kicked off last month.
01:53:54.000 Another one will start the day after Election Day.
01:53:56.000 And then the doors will be totally open on January 1st for as many people that can apply.
01:54:00.000 You apply, it gets reviewed, and you get your rights back.
01:54:04.000 And I will say, President Trump made it a priority.
01:54:07.000 When I was in DOJ, I was told do this.
01:54:10.000 And then Todd Blanch, who's now the AG, made it a priority.
01:54:13.000 And so we've got it done.
01:54:14.000 And it's pretty cool.
01:54:14.000 It's pretty awesome.
01:54:16.000 The response is great.
01:54:17.000 You know, the two or three weeks ago, we had some pardons.
01:54:21.000 Of, I never say his last name right, Tate Adamiak, one of the guys that was the Navy guy that was convicted of ridiculous charges under Biden.
01:54:30.000 Those were completely, there was no law broken.
01:54:34.000 And he was sentenced to like 24 years or something crazy.
01:54:37.000 But anyway, and a couple other guys in there.
01:54:39.000 And we've been on the march, I think, on Second Amendment jurisprudence in the DOJ.
01:54:45.000 The Solicitor General is a guy named John Sauer.
01:54:47.000 He does a great job on that.
01:54:48.000 So do some of the other folks.
01:54:50.000 So there's a lot of positive happening around the Second Amendment.
01:54:54.000 I did an interview last night and I said to somebody, I think it's more necessary than ever at this moment in history, maybe back to the revolution, because you just need stability in the society.
01:55:05.000 And when you see what I saw, which is I looked at the emails of Lisa Monaco, I looked at Jack Smith's inbox, these people were targeting Americans.
01:55:16.000 They had real plans to target Americans, to destroy Americans.
01:55:21.000 This was not like, oh, should we debate the marginal tax rates?
01:55:25.000 This was, we're going to put you in that gulag in DC. 0.58
01:55:27.000 We're going to make up the law that we use to get you. 0.69
01:55:30.000 And so, getting your Second Amendment rights back, if you can, you know, and I tell people, you get out of prison having served your time, you get your First Amendment rights back automatically.
01:55:39.000 You can speak whatever you want, you can assemble whatever you want.
01:55:41.000 And so, you ought to, all these years of chipping away at it, we have not had that back, and we should, and we're going to have them.
01:55:48.000 Actually, I want to talk to you about that with the last few minutes before we go to the Uncensored Show.
01:55:52.000 You saw political weaponization targeting adversaries of Biden or the Republicans?
01:55:58.000 Well, the biggest one that I saw, there's two ways to answer that.
01:56:01.000 The first one is, When I became U.S. Attorney, I wanted to know. 0.89
01:56:05.000 I called it the 1512 Project, echoing the 1619 Project.
01:56:09.000 I said, I want to know why we charged in this office, in the U.S. Attorney's office, the 1512 charge, because it's called obstruction of official proceeding, and it's meant to be about evidence tampering, not going to the Electoral College and somehow disrupting the count, which is what they said.
01:56:26.000 And what you discover in there is it went all the way up to Lisa Monaco's desk.
01:56:30.000 She was the DAG at the time.
01:56:32.000 Basically, a lie.
01:56:34.000 And once that was done, once the decision was made to use that lie, because if you trespass into the Capitol, that's a trespass, it's a misdemeanor.
01:56:42.000 And no one's getting held on a misdemeanor.
01:56:45.000 You had to put the felony of 1512 on it to make these guys go to jail and rot in jail for years and years.
01:56:51.000 So, my point in the 1512 project, which is a document that exists, it shows the trail and it shows the Capitol Siege unit was targeting people to put them in jail.
01:57:02.000 Ray Epps wasn't targeted.
01:57:04.000 Ray Epps was given a walk.
01:57:05.000 Why?
01:57:06.000 Well, it's a good question.
01:57:08.000 It's a good question.
01:57:09.000 Keep asking.
01:57:10.000 I mean, well, we've been asking for almost six years now.
01:57:13.000 I think we're just, we're just, well, we're resigned to the fact that Trump is not going to give us any real power to tell people what's going on.
01:57:21.000 Well, okay, fair enough.
01:57:22.000 This is why people are checked out for the midterms, too.
01:57:25.000 Well, I mean, you could be checked out if you want, but you have to know who your enemy is.
01:57:29.000 I mean, and I'm describing to you what we saw and what we know.
01:57:33.000 On the Jack Smith, Jack Smith decided that his vision for what to do to Trump.
01:57:38.000 Was to put Trump at the center of a 250 to 300 person trial.
01:57:44.000 In the 1990s in Sicily, they had what was called maxi trials.
01:57:48.000 They tried 260 defendants.
01:57:50.000 They built special courthouses and the trials went on for two years and they broke the mafia that way.
01:57:56.000 That's what Jack Smith was doing.
01:57:58.000 And he was willing to roll up guys and gals in the alternate electors, they were called.
01:58:03.000 Do you remember those?
01:58:04.000 And roll them up into this massive thing and destroy them all.
01:58:07.000 Those people were not even political types. 0.79
01:58:09.000 You were.
01:58:10.000 You were like the deputy, the vice chair of the county party in Wisconsin was asked to sign as an alternate elector, and they were rolling up.
01:58:17.000 And that was Jack Smith's vision to put Trump at the middle and roll this thing up and do it in D.C.
01:58:23.000 And if they'd gotten it in D.C. in district court there, you wouldn't have been able to control the jury.
01:58:27.000 Why hasn't action been taken against any of these people?
01:58:29.000 Well, I mean, Jack Smith is, he didn't do anything illegal.
01:58:33.000 He did something that was, in my mind, you know, completely unprecedented.
01:58:37.000 A malicious prosecution?
01:58:38.000 He didn't get to, well, you could do it maybe, but it's hard to do.
01:58:41.000 I mean, look, I would have done a malicious prosecution.
01:58:43.000 Against a bunch of people.
01:58:44.000 Do you think it was malicious prosecution?
01:58:46.000 I think that Jack Smith got beat at the courthouse enough that by the time he gets to Trump, he drops down to just Trump.
01:58:55.000 You can make a case that that was malicious prosecution.
01:58:58.000 But I think any reasonable person, even a liberal, but you see, the argument from the liberals is that we want to win.
01:59:05.000 So, of course, they're not going to concede to this.
01:59:08.000 Any reasonable person who looks at the facts of the case is going to say, oh, yeah, they've weaponized the legal system.
01:59:14.000 Okay, well, we're going to elect you, Trump, give you all three branches of government.
01:59:18.000 Here's your opportunity.
01:59:19.000 And he went, no.
01:59:21.000 And so now I'm being asked to vote in the midterms again, and I'm just tired.
01:59:25.000 You know, to be fair, like I said, look, we're in Riley Moore's district, so we're chilling.
01:59:28.000 He's going to win.
01:59:29.000 I want to make sure he wins.
01:59:30.000 I'm very happy he does a great job.
01:59:32.000 But as for the Republicans, what hope do I have when all of that stuff happened and they don't do anything about it?
01:59:39.000 The weaponization, they tried to do that fund, right?
01:59:44.000 For people who were targeted and it got stopped.
01:59:47.000 They can't seem to get anything done.
01:59:48.000 So it's like, okay, maybe this is not the way for us to push back against evil people.
01:59:54.000 Well, a couple answers to that. 0.97
01:59:56.000 The weaponization fund was a stupid way to go about it, and that was not what. 0.98
02:00:00.000 Most of us were advocating. 0.98
02:00:01.000 That doesn't answer your question in the sense that it did blow up.
02:00:04.000 The second thing I would say is look, the deep state is real.
02:00:08.000 And I will tell you that the forces, we got in on day one and we fired a lot of people, but we did not go far enough.
02:00:14.000 If you ask me what is the necessary vision for the future, it's finish the job.
02:00:19.000 I would say we have to finish the job, meaning we did a lot of stuff to start and we didn't get enough done.
02:00:24.000 I concede it.
02:00:25.000 What was stopping the Trump DOJ from going after these people?
02:00:28.000 Well, I'm describing it to you.
02:00:30.000 All kinds of layers of.
02:00:32.000 Of bureaucrats and others who say, not now, it's not illegal, it's not malicious prosecution.
02:00:37.000 I mean, there was only a handful of us that were saying, let's keep going that way.
02:00:42.000 Now, you can say, well, it should be different.
02:00:44.000 I'm not going to disagree with you, but I'm going to say that's what the reality is.
02:00:48.000 And, you know, back to earlier in the conversation, you know, do you get to turn the ship around on a dime?
02:00:54.000 It doesn't look like you do.
02:00:55.000 Now, you can say, well, we should have done it better.
02:00:58.000 I'm not here to say a yay or nay.
02:01:00.000 I'm saying, you know, we can't afford to let them be in charge.
02:01:03.000 Well, could I ask you kind of a related question?
02:01:05.000 Because, I mean, it's kind of the same topic around like the mass deportations kind of themes.
02:01:09.000 Because, you know, from my perspective, this kind of is where the energy is with Republicans.
02:01:14.000 I mean, this is for most people at the top of their list what they want to see the Trump administration carry out.
02:01:19.000 I'm kind of wondering what your perspective is because a lot of people are sort of contesting the same thing, which is look, Trump's trying to do one thing, but he's running up against a lot of walls regarding this.
02:01:27.000 I'm kind of wondering where your head is at on the mass deportation.
02:01:29.000 Well, I mean, look, you guys probably could tell.
02:01:32.000 I mean, I was frustrated in my role because I wanted to do more.
02:01:36.000 At various times, and that's real.
02:01:38.000 I mean, I wasn't in charge of everything, and there we have it.
02:01:41.000 So, but I will just say this in the first 60 days, I saw progress like I'd never expected to see.
02:01:47.000 And you could say Doge was a success or failure.
02:01:51.000 If you don't know, you say it's a failure.
02:01:53.000 If you know it was a success, was it a thorough success?
02:01:57.000 No, but nothing was.
02:01:57.000 The first 60 days, we did more to dismiss cases, pardon people, fire people.
02:02:03.000 Look, we pardoned all the J6ers, we pardoned all the FACE Act, we pardoned cops. 1.00
02:02:09.000 We dismissed case after case and fired prosecutors. 1.00
02:02:11.000 What I would tell you is what I discovered was that's the tip of the iceberg.
02:02:16.000 That the people that stayed, the people that are there, and then the people in the administration that came in in the administration become part of the system.
02:02:25.000 And everything, the oxygen of the deep state is delay.
02:02:29.000 Slow stuff down.
02:02:31.000 It took us 15 months to implement what should have taken three months in the firearms restoration, firearm rights restoration, because there's All these layers, all these manuals, all this nonsense.
02:02:43.000 And I look, if I could have gone back and done what we did in the first 60 days for the whole time, it would have been better.
02:02:49.000 But that's not what happened.
02:02:50.000 And on deportation, by the way, same deal.
02:02:53.000 You got these judges who jam it up.
02:02:55.000 And then our side, meaning Republicans, say, oh, well, we better wait.
02:02:59.000 You know, what are we going to do?
02:03:01.000 We should have defied the judges long before now.
02:03:04.000 We should have taken that showdown on judges.
02:03:06.000 We should impeach judges immediately, build a case.
02:03:09.000 And when Riley Moore would vote for it, but very few Republicans would vote for impeachment.
02:03:14.000 But we have to build the case and make the argument about what these people are doing.
02:03:18.000 Because otherwise, our guys go, oh, well, we can't deport everyone.
02:03:21.000 We're negotiating against ourselves because of the federal courts.
02:03:24.000 Yeah, because, like, on the deportation front, because you've outlined the deep state, but then also you have these, like, special interest groups as well.
02:03:29.000 They're all part of the deep state.
02:03:30.000 They're all, I mean, they're all wrapped up into this.
02:03:30.000 Yeah.
02:03:33.000 Yeah.
02:03:33.000 Again, there's not a meeting where there's not a conspiracy, it's a consensus.
02:03:39.000 That's the old John Birch Society line.
02:03:41.000 Yeah.
02:03:42.000 That's exactly right.
02:03:43.000 There's not a meeting where they say, this is how we do it.
02:03:46.000 There's a consensus that we must slow down whoever comes in, especially Trump, and we'll use every tool we have.
02:03:52.000 And then our side doesn't have the stomach to impeach somebody.
02:03:55.000 Mm hmm. 1.00
02:03:56.000 This snooky woman, the judge in the District of Columbia, this is insanity. 1.00
02:04:01.000 And there's no stomach to use the tools in the Constitution from the Congress to just, if you just talk about impeachment, these people lose their mind.
02:04:08.000 I'll tell you a quick story.
02:04:09.000 I go to the federal district court.
02:04:11.000 Boesberg invites me over.
02:04:12.000 I'm the U.S. attorney appointed by the President of the United States, you know, all the authority.
02:04:16.000 I go to a meeting of all the federal district court judges, and Chutkin, one of the judges, she won't even make eye contact with me.
02:04:22.000 She actually speaks staring at a table like this, staring straight ahead.
02:04:25.000 I'm sitting down there because she won't make eye contact.
02:04:28.000 That's how whack these people are. 0.97
02:04:30.000 And we're pretending that we can go before these courts and get a functional deal, get something to work out.
02:04:37.000 It never is going to happen.
02:04:39.000 And we better realize it.
02:04:41.000 Now, Tim's mad because we didn't do more.
02:04:42.000 I know.
02:04:43.000 And I am too.
02:04:44.000 But I'm just telling you if you think that it's not progress, if you think we didn't make progress, then you don't know how these things work, in my opinion.
02:04:54.000 And so this is progress and we need more.
02:04:56.000 I just can tell you Democrats winning in the fall here is not going to be progress.
02:05:01.000 I agree, but I think the issue is Republicans don't know how to play the game to ensure that they win.
02:05:07.000 I agree.
02:05:09.000 You've got what appears to be a, and I'll play this you're playing Monopoly.
02:05:14.000 You are watching them pull cash from the bank while they stare you in the eyes and do it, and you're going, well, but I can't do that.
02:05:22.000 I got a better one.
02:05:23.000 Well, you're going to lose.
02:05:24.000 I got a better one. 0.97
02:05:24.000 It's like the Geneva Convention the rules of engagement are they get to be armed, and we have to put down our arms and let them shoot us in the head. 0.97
02:05:33.000 And then we're like, wow, these, and they say, but you must abide by the Geneva Convention.
02:05:37.000 You must abide by the Geneva Convention.
02:05:38.000 This is important.
02:05:39.000 These are the rules.
02:05:40.000 These are the rules.
02:05:41.000 A grand jury says secrecy.
02:05:43.000 Jack Smith leaks on the grand jury the whole time, and no one is indicted.
02:05:46.000 He's never indicted.
02:05:47.000 His people are indicted.
02:05:48.000 We talk about the grand jury, and they're like, whoa, whoa, the judges are like, this is out.
02:05:53.000 So I'm with you.
02:05:54.000 I'm with you when you say it.
02:05:56.000 And so it's real simple Nick Fuentes is going to be president.
02:05:59.000 Well, because he's the guy saying, burn the GOP to the ground for this reason.
02:06:04.000 Right.
02:06:05.000 Because he's the guy who's arguing that when you get into office, you don't play by the rules, you go to war.
02:06:10.000 And the Republicans right now are saying, slow down there, Democrats.
02:06:14.000 Well, not all of them, but I mean, here's the problem with that.
02:06:16.000 You can wish that you could burn down the Republican Party, but you got to have a vehicle.
02:06:20.000 You got to pick a team, and you got to make the team better.
02:06:23.000 And when I say finish the job, what I mean by finish the job is the Republican Party has to become completely now the America First MAGA party.
02:06:32.000 And that has to happen.
02:06:33.000 I want to tell you guys a story that I probably shouldn't tell you, but I'm going to tell you anyway, but I'm going to save it for the uncensored.
02:06:37.000 Portion of the show because we are a bit over time, but I'm going to tell you the story anyway because I'm going to talk to you about my ethos and probably why I'll never be in office.
02:06:46.000 So smash the like button, share the show with everyone.
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02:06:51.000 The uncensored show is coming up just after this.
02:06:54.000 Before we get to that, Ed, do you want to shout anything out?
02:06:58.000 The big thing I'm going to follow you.
02:07:00.000 Well, at Eagle Ed Martin is where to follow me, and also the website that I put up to help with getting people's rights back is firearmrightsusa.com.
02:07:10.000 FirearmRightsUSA.com and at Eagle Ed Martin on Instagram and X to follow that.
02:07:15.000 And a lot happening right now.
02:07:17.000 So I appreciate it.
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02:10:20.000 We need a smoother way to transition the music so it fades in.
02:10:24.000 Is that possible?
02:10:25.000 I'm sure I could figure it out.
02:10:25.000 Yeah.
02:10:26.000 Because we all love that song.
02:10:29.000 I'm going to get in trouble and tell a story.
02:10:31.000 I'm going to tell a story. 0.93
02:10:33.000 I hate lawyers. 0.82
02:10:35.000 Good. 0.99
02:10:35.000 I absolutely hate lawyers. 0.99
02:10:36.000 I don't hate lawyers because they're evil. 1.00
02:10:38.000 I hate lawyers because they're dumb as fucking shit. 1.00
02:10:41.000 Let me be angry for a moment. 1.00
02:10:43.000 I have dealt with lawyers my whole life who have been wrong every fucking time. 0.97
02:10:49.000 I have never had a lawyer who was right. 0.98
02:10:51.000 At one time.
02:10:52.000 Never.
02:10:53.000 Wow.
02:10:53.000 I'm smarter than all the lawyers I've ever had.
02:10:55.000 Wow.
02:10:56.000 And it's impressive.
02:10:58.000 I can give you one story where my brother and I were arrested on false charges.
02:11:04.000 I got disorderly conduct.
02:11:05.000 My brother got assault.
02:11:07.000 Our lawyer said, plead guilty.
02:11:09.000 They'll give you 22 hours of community service at your own discretion.
02:11:12.000 And my brother and I talked about it.
02:11:15.000 And because my brother was facing six months maximum and I was facing 30 days, my brother was okay, I'll take the deal.
02:11:22.000 Tim, we agreed, I'll go to trial because worst case scenario is 30 days.
02:11:27.000 I want a trial. 0.98
02:11:28.000 And then the long story short is the ADA flipped the fuck out when she heard I was demanding a jury trial. 0.99
02:11:33.000 My brother got pissed that she exclaimed, she screamed in court, screamed. 0.86
02:11:37.000 So then he said, I want a jury trial too. 1.00
02:11:40.000 Fuck her. 1.00
02:11:41.000 And then ultimately, the judge dismissed the case. 1.00
02:11:44.000 But I'll tell you this story.
02:11:46.000 At our old studio, we had Verizon.
02:11:49.000 It was very, very difficult to get because we had to have the lines installed.
02:11:54.000 So there was a tower.
02:11:56.000 Not too far from where our studio was, but they had not yet laid down the fiber lines to the residential properties.
02:12:03.000 So we had been talking to them for some time, being like, we need this done because we need access to fiber.
02:12:08.000 We currently only had 20 megabit DSL.
02:12:11.000 Sucks.
02:12:13.000 And so we were able to do the show, but with 20 megabits, you're really pushing the limit. 0.98
02:12:17.000 We had like a two megabit satellite backup, which sucked.
02:12:21.000 And, you know, the internet's improved greatly since then.
02:12:23.000 We eventually, no, I'm sorry, was it Verizon?
02:12:25.000 It might have been Comcast.
02:12:26.000 I think it was Verizon.
02:12:28.000 I think it was Verizon.
02:12:29.000 Yeah.
02:12:30.000 I think I remember Andy was always on the phone with them.
02:12:33.000 I think it was Verizon 2, but I don't want to besmirch their good name necessarily.
02:12:33.000 Okay.
02:12:38.000 So I'll be careful and just say, I think it was, but I could be wrong.
02:12:41.000 It might have been Comcast.
02:12:43.000 That also sounds like it could have been.
02:12:43.000 Yeah.
02:12:45.000 Yeah.
02:12:45.000 Right.
02:12:45.000 It could have been Comcast.
02:12:46.000 Yeah.
02:12:47.000 So what ends up happening is when we moved from the studio and we came here, we contacted them as we had a contract for several years and told them.
02:12:58.000 And my team's doing all this.
02:12:59.000 So this is what's relayed to me.
02:12:59.000 I'm not personally doing it.
02:13:01.000 Hey, we're going to be relocating, so we're not going to re up the contract.
02:13:04.000 Thank you for everything.
02:13:05.000 We'd like to discontinue service.
02:13:07.000 To which they said, no problem.
02:13:10.000 They said, we will come out, we'll discontinue, we will disable it and take to box and all that stuff.
02:13:14.000 We were like, thank you so much for everything.
02:13:17.000 Like a year later, my phone's blown up with unknown caller, and I never answer my phone.
02:13:23.000 And I'm getting voicemails, and I never answer it.
02:13:25.000 Well, it was a collection agency, and they wanted $80,000.
02:13:29.000 They said that what had happened was, wow.
02:13:32.000 When we terminated, we broke the contract and had to pay for the full three years for another contract, which is like almost $30,000 a year.
02:13:41.000 And so I just told my team outright, I was like, the collection agency is asking if we want to tell them screw off.
02:13:45.000 No, I'm not interested.
02:13:46.000 Like, this is fake.
02:13:47.000 We don't owe anybody any money.
02:13:49.000 And so eventually, my team comes to me and they're like, they're threatening to hold it against the company, against you personally.
02:13:57.000 I think we should just ask the lawyers about it.
02:13:58.000 And I'm like, okay, fine.
02:13:59.000 Because they were incessant.
02:14:02.000 The lawyers said, pay them $40,000.
02:14:05.000 And I said, who?
02:14:07.000 And they're like, this company. 0.99
02:14:08.000 I'm like, I don't know who the fuck this company is. 0.98
02:14:11.000 And they said, the amount of money it's going to cost you in legal fees and going to court to fight this debt, it's going to be more than 40. 0.99
02:14:17.000 So, like, pay the $40,000 and you're done with it. 0.86
02:14:19.000 And I said, I am not fucking giving $40,000 to a stranger on the internet because they're claiming I owe them money. 0.69
02:14:25.000 It's like, well, it's a real collection agency. 0.97
02:14:27.000 And I said, send them an email and tell them I'll give them $5,000.
02:14:32.000 I'm sorry they collected a bad debt, but this should cover their time. 1.00
02:14:36.000 And they responded back with a, you know, polite go fuck yourself. 0.99
02:14:41.000 I said, call them on the phone and tell them that's all that's going to happen and we're done with this. 0.99
02:14:44.000 And again, my lawyers came back and said, at this point, we're spending money on lawyers, right?
02:14:48.000 They were like, look, you've already spent more money now on dealing with a problem, and they're not going to go away.
02:14:54.000 And we talked to them on the phone, and they're not interested.
02:14:56.000 And I said, okay, I'll do it.
02:14:59.000 Give me the phone.
02:15:01.000 Hey, in five minutes, she was apologizing to me and accepted my gracious $5,000. 0.95
02:15:08.000 So, why the fuck was I being advised by multiple lawyers to pay a debt I didn't owe when it was actually quite simple? 0.57
02:15:15.000 I get on the phone with this lady, and she says, I said, I was like, hi, I've been relayed this information from my lawyers. 0.97
02:15:25.000 I believe you're trying to collect a false debt against my company.
02:15:29.000 And she says, yes, you have a debt.
02:15:31.000 I think the number was around $80,000.
02:15:34.000 And this is money that you owe.
02:15:35.000 So we're calling to negotiate payment.
02:15:38.000 And I said, yeah.
02:15:39.000 I was like, well, obviously, I respect that you're trying to do your job, ma'am.
02:15:42.000 But understand this is not a legal debt.
02:15:45.000 I do not owe this money, and you are incorrect.
02:15:47.000 I am sorry that your company purchased a bad debt.
02:15:50.000 But we actually don't owe this money as our contract ended and we amicably disconnected.
02:15:55.000 In fact, they personally came out to disconnect for us, so there is no contract for you to collect upon.
02:15:59.000 And she said, Well, you can say that, but we have paperwork showing that you owe this money.
02:16:05.000 And so we are going to pursue that money with however we have to.
02:16:09.000 And I said, I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
02:16:12.000 I appreciate that you guys put work into this already and that it was a mistake.
02:16:17.000 So I'm going to write you a check for $5,000 that I don't have to write because I don't owe anybody money, but I think.
02:16:23.000 It'll help cover your time and I'll be a nice guy.
02:16:27.000 And she says to me, Mr. Poole, we can't accept $5,000 in an $80,000 debt.
02:16:33.000 And you need to consider how much this is going to cost you if you go to court.
02:16:38.000 And I said, Excuse me? 0.99
02:16:41.000 Did you just fucking threaten me? 0.98
02:16:44.000 And she goes, No, I'm just, no, not at all. 0.99
02:16:47.000 I'm saying that court costs money.
02:16:49.000 And I said, Yes, you are telling me that if I don't give you money, I don't owe you, you are going to bring me to court and try and drag more money out of me.
02:16:58.000 And she's like, that is not what I meant.
02:17:01.000 I just meant that court is much more expensive to fight.
02:17:04.000 And I said, agreed.
02:17:05.000 And that's why I offered you $5,000. 1.00
02:17:08.000 And then I played the ultimate fuck you card that I hate to play. 0.99
02:17:11.000 I said, ma'am, are you at your computer? 0.99
02:17:14.000 Here's what I want you to do I want you to Google Tim Pool.
02:17:17.000 That's who you're talking to right now.
02:17:19.000 And here's what I'm going to do I'm going to go on my show to 12 million followers tonight, and I'm going to name you personally and your company for trying to shake me down for $80,000, and then we'll have another conversation.
02:17:31.000 She goes quiet.
02:17:32.000 I hear typing.
02:17:33.000 And then, you know, she says, I'm so sorry about this.
02:17:37.000 $5,000 sounds wonderful.
02:17:38.000 Thank you for your time.
02:17:40.000 And I said, Great.
02:17:41.000 My team will reach out.
02:17:42.000 And the debt was cleared. 1.00
02:17:43.000 And I still lost $5,000 on this bullshit from these pieces of shit. 1.00
02:17:47.000 And I'll tell you why I'm so pissed off about it. 1.00
02:17:49.000 One, I love the story. 0.98
02:17:51.000 I shouldn't tell the story because it's like, you know, my lawyers are like, What the fuck are you doing telling the story on your show? 0.97
02:17:51.000 I'll probably get in trouble. 0.97
02:17:57.000 I have dealt with dozens of legal firms.
02:17:59.000 I have sued numerous companies. 1.00
02:18:02.000 Single time I've gone to lawyers, they've told me, sit down, shove the stick up your ass, and cry because you're a loser. 1.00
02:18:09.000 And I'm just like, go fuck yourself. 1.00
02:18:10.000 I am going nuclear and I will burn the whole fucking thing to the ground before I take advice that says lose. 1.00
02:18:17.000 And this is what I can't stand. 0.99
02:18:19.000 Don't get me wrong, I understand the system is much more complicated when it comes to the federal government than I realize.
02:18:24.000 But if you cannot effectively communicate to the people standing behind you or the people standing in front of you, ready to take a bullet for you, as to why the job must be done in this way, they will walk away from you.
02:18:38.000 And so, this is the frustration I have when I see what's going on.
02:18:43.000 In DC, and with my bias due to my personal experience with every single case, I had a lawsuit where my lawyers are like, the judge has ordered us to do this thing.
02:18:54.000 The defendants that I was suing were violating every court order, every single one. 0.99
02:19:00.000 And the judge was going, oh, you know, I mean, you know, and my lawyer's like, you better not cross that line, Tim, because if you violate the orders, and I'm like, what the fuck is this shit? 0.98
02:19:09.000 Well, so long story short, I'm going to personal details. 1.00
02:19:12.000 I said, go fuck yourself, went nuclear, and I got a half victory, more so than I would have gotten with these people breaking the rules. 0.99
02:19:18.000 So, my experience with lawyers is I'm going to take the path of least resistance. 1.00
02:19:24.000 We're all going to give up and you're going to lose.
02:19:26.000 And what happens is because Republicans are spineless, the Democrats are like, we are doing this because we believe in a different world.
02:19:35.000 And the Republicans are doing this, saying, we believe in the world we're in.
02:19:38.000 And the Democrats are like, I will murder to get what I want.
02:19:42.000 And the Republicans are like, whoa, slow down there.
02:19:45.000 So, what do you get?
02:19:46.000 Democrats are more like me in this regard.
02:19:48.000 Their lawyers say, We better be careful. 1.00
02:19:50.000 The Democrats go, Nah, fuck them. 1.00
02:19:52.000 I'll punch them in the nose until they bleed before I lay down. 1.00
02:19:56.000 And the Republicans are more like my lawyers saying, We don't really want to deal with it this way. 0.99
02:20:00.000 I am not convinced that Bill Pulte, I think, is one of the only pit bulls in the administration.
02:20:07.000 He's willing to pull up mortgage applications to try and go after these people.
02:20:12.000 But the Republicans are just not willing to do it.
02:20:14.000 And as you described, you've got the people slowing things down.
02:20:17.000 The Republican Party is rife with people.
02:20:19.000 Like my lawyers, just give the Democrats what they're asking for so they leave us alone.
02:20:24.000 You've got more people now in the administration who are obviously willing to go to war, which is fantastic, but I don't think they're willing to do what needs to be done to actually win the conflict they're facing.
02:20:37.000 That is, when a man has pulled a gun figuratively, the Democrats have pulled a gun on Trump, threatening to imprison him for the rest of his life, raiding his family's home, and the Republicans pulled out legal paperwork.
02:20:49.000 And the meme consistently is that Republicans.
02:20:52.000 Pull out strongly worded letters while they're staring down the barrel of the Democrats' gun.
02:20:57.000 So, you know, maybe there's more to it, and there probably is, but then my only response to that is the Republicans' leadership is the worst if you cannot rally the people.
02:21:12.000 Dan Bongino with the Epstein files, worst PR I've ever seen.
02:21:18.000 And look, I like Dan, I got no beef.
02:21:20.000 I'm just saying, Dan comes out and says, Epstein killed himself.
02:21:24.000 And you spiked the whole thing and you created this opportunity for Democrats.
02:21:29.000 When I've said it a million times, he could have literally just come out and said, the investigation is ongoing.
02:21:33.000 That's it.
02:21:34.000 And people would have dropped it.
02:21:36.000 So they have handled their PR miserably.
02:21:39.000 They have not been able to rally the supporters of the coalition that they had in the midterms.
02:21:44.000 I'm sorry, in the general.
02:21:45.000 And now the midterms are here.
02:21:47.000 The libertarians have broken.
02:21:48.000 Many moderates are breaking.
02:21:50.000 And you've got a splinter faction, the Republican Party, that wants to see them lose.
02:21:53.000 So anyway, I'm done ranting.
02:21:54.000 I don't know.
02:21:55.000 I mean, look, you're saying, Tim, you're saying what most people feel, and you're saying there's a reason why I'm outside of government now because I did what I thought I could do and it was time to get out.
02:22:06.000 I will say this.
02:22:08.000 What Trump represents is a break, again, from my experience of 25 years of politics.
02:22:13.000 But we've never had a Republican leader do what he's done.
02:22:17.000 So shift the entire focus of the Republican Party and governing in a way that has been progress.
02:22:26.000 You know, America First is one way to say it.
02:22:28.000 I would say, like, I was on the Republican National Committee in 2013 through 15, and you couldn't be against free trade and be in good standing because there were about five of us that were, you know, opposing free trade. 0.69
02:22:40.000 Immigration, same thing.
02:22:41.000 Trump moved that whole party. 1.00
02:22:43.000 And Trump did more in a single stroke of his pen by pardoning all the J Sixers. 1.00
02:22:48.000 I can tell you, everybody was against that, the political class. 1.00
02:22:51.000 Yep.
02:22:52.000 And Trump did it.
02:22:52.000 So I'm not saying it's enough.
02:22:55.000 Pardon Ross Ulbricht as well, which is.
02:22:56.000 Yeah, Ross Ulbricht.
02:22:57.000 I mean, yeah.
02:22:58.000 And also the cops.
02:22:59.000 And also, I mean, you can go down the list.
02:23:01.000 The progress is real and it's too slow.
02:23:04.000 And I agree with everything you said in your rant in terms of the idea of the Democrats are playing for keeps and we're debating.
02:23:12.000 What would happen if.
02:23:14.000 A, let's just say, preliminary case argument was put together on malicious prosecution from Jack Smith.
02:23:21.000 Right.
02:23:22.000 And then Donald Trump did a press briefing definitively stating it was criminal malicious prosecution by a rogue element in the government.
02:23:33.000 Just say it.
02:23:34.000 What's stopping him from just saying it?
02:23:36.000 Nothing, huh?
02:23:36.000 So why isn't he?
02:23:37.000 Well, perception is reality.
02:23:38.000 Yeah.
02:23:39.000 I mean, I have argued myself what you're saying is you forget about whether you actually ever get the prosecution.
02:23:47.000 Just.
02:23:47.000 Say what the reality is, what the facts are, and drive the agenda and see where it goes.
02:23:52.000 And I did that my time in office.
02:23:54.000 Yeah.
02:23:55.000 So I.
02:23:55.000 Well, and they stopped you.
02:23:57.000 Like, they didn't.
02:23:58.000 I mean, I'm not spending my time worrying about it, but yes, that's right.
02:24:00.000 I mean, that is that no one was.
02:24:02.000 I mean, look, Tom Tillis stopped me as U.S. Attorney.
02:24:04.000 Well, we were taking on Schumer.
02:24:07.000 I was taking on Georgetown.
02:24:08.000 I was taking on Millie.
02:24:10.000 I was looking at, you know, the auto pen.
02:24:13.000 Why aren't we challenging the auto pen?
02:24:15.000 Right?
02:24:15.000 Yep.
02:24:16.000 I mean, there's no reason not to.
02:24:18.000 So, the point, but my point, Tim, is to come back and I mean, just tell you again in politics, it's different than, well, it's not different.
02:24:27.000 It's like life.
02:24:29.000 But you can make progress.
02:24:31.000 You will never make as much progress as you want.
02:24:33.000 That's the reality. 0.70
02:24:36.000 And look, I think they're going to kill us. 1.00
02:24:37.000 They're going to kill you and kill me if they win in 29. 1.00
02:24:41.000 I mean, 28. 1.00
02:24:41.000 I do think that. 1.00
02:24:42.000 So, I'm much more aware, as you are, of what's at stake.
02:24:46.000 And I'm stunned that our fellow conservatives and Republicans don't realize that.
02:24:51.000 I really am.
02:24:52.000 Jimmy Raskin in Congress accused me of rallying people for January 6th, which I did not do. 0.96
02:25:01.000 I was reading an article from Fox News where I said, Holy crap, this is going to get crazy.
02:25:05.000 If people come down here, Trump's telling people to come down to protest on January 6th. 0.98
02:25:08.000 That's nuts.
02:25:10.000 I actually canceled our plans to be down there because we thought it was going to get crazy.
02:25:15.000 Raskin plays a video of me alongside a bunch of others saying these people were encouraging those to insurrect.
02:25:23.000 Merrick Garland.
02:25:24.000 Falsely accused me of being funded by Russians, resulting in endless death threats. 0.99
02:25:30.000 I'm just some fucking guy on the internet. 1.00
02:25:32.000 This is crazy. 0.99
02:25:33.000 They've never come to me and tried to recruit me.
02:25:36.000 I've never had some Democrat say, Tim, listen, we need your support on this one.
02:25:40.000 Here's why we think Trump is. 1.00
02:25:41.000 No, no, they just literally said, fuck Tim Poole, burn him to the ground and make him suffer. 1.00
02:25:45.000 Never even fucking met these people. 1.00
02:25:47.000 Literally, I, in my bedroom, made YouTube videos. 0.99
02:25:51.000 They could have just said, YouTube banned Tim Poole. 0.97
02:25:54.000 They could have just fucking done that and been done with it. 0.98
02:25:56.000 Leave my reputation alone. 0.99
02:25:58.000 Let me go get a job at a movie theater.
02:25:59.000 No. 1.00
02:26:00.000 They said we want to shove a pipe up his ass and make him suffer for no fucking reason. 1.00
02:26:04.000 So, I expect when Donald Trump gets his home raided by these people, he's going to be like, fuck you, it's time for war. 1.00
02:26:13.000 Instead, I'm left feeling like a random guy on the internet expressing his opinion is unjustly and unfairly targeted by these psychopaths in government, and there's not a single fucking advocate for me. 1.00
02:26:27.000 And I'm saying that very personally because obviously most people, the J6ers obviously feel it more than I do. 1.00
02:26:32.000 They mocked me and defamed me, they put these people in solitary confinement. 1.00
02:26:36.000 So, I appreciate that Trump did that.
02:26:38.000 I genuinely do.
02:26:39.000 But when it comes to doing everything they can do, Trump certainly is not doing it.
02:26:44.000 And when it comes to the war with Iran, it's a question of like, how is that helping this country?
02:26:49.000 No, no, no. 0.74
02:26:50.000 I can go through all the scenarios on seizing Venezuela, pacifying the Caribbean, oil exports in the Gulf, shutting down the Strait of Hormuz. 0.94
02:26:59.000 We're going up against China.
02:27:00.000 If Trump is going to prioritize foreign policy over the collapsing internal politics because of the deep state, then he's going to lose.
02:27:08.000 That's just it.
02:27:09.000 He's lost the anti war libertarians.
02:27:09.000 He's going to lose.
02:27:12.000 The Epstein debacle has given Democrats a weapon against them that shouldn't exist.
02:27:16.000 And he's not stood up for himself publicly as it pertains to the weaponization of politics in his first.
02:27:23.000 I mean, don't get me wrong.
02:27:25.000 Personally, he said these people are crooks, but he's not done the procedural things he could do.
02:27:30.000 My view is my only conclusion in the day is that Trump is the deep state.
02:27:34.000 They're all the deep state.
02:27:35.000 They're all a part of the game.
02:27:37.000 And they're just pretending to be at war for the purpose of keeping Americans.
02:27:40.000 This is the conspiracy theory.
02:27:41.000 Keep Americans divided so they bicker amongst themselves, and you keep getting your wars.
02:27:45.000 The Democrats are going to come in and keep doing the same exact thing.
02:27:49.000 And so it's demoralizing to be at this point to do what Tate correctly called the land acknowledgement.
02:27:57.000 Like Trump has done good things, we all get it.
02:28:00.000 But then to be faced with the economic failures, the diesel shortage, the gas prices, all of these problems into a midterm.
02:28:09.000 If the deep state is burning this country to the ground, If they're putting innocent people in prison, if they're raiding the president's home, I don't understand why we've prioritized going to war for as long as we have.
02:28:21.000 And that's demoralizing.
02:28:22.000 Well, I mean, look, I'm not here to defend that.
02:28:25.000 And that's not my space.
02:28:27.000 I want to go back for a second to DOJ.
02:28:29.000 The thing I think that you can help with, you mentioned Pulte.
02:28:31.000 Pulte and I worked together on Tish James, on Cook, on a number of things, and with limited success, right?
02:28:39.000 And the thing that I think people have to understand is when you have a platform, the pressure you can put, It is important to put.
02:28:47.000 In other words, I'm not asking you to say it's all great.
02:28:50.000 I'm asking you to say, good job on J6, good job on Ulbricht, good job on this and that.
02:28:55.000 But you have to fight differently.
02:28:57.000 I agree with you.
02:28:59.000 And I wonder if after the midterms, I mean, if the president will change his mindset because, you know, I mean, look, I like that cash.
02:29:09.000 When I was U.S. Attorney, we cracked down on crime in the District of Columbia because I was doing ride alongs with the cops and I was seeing what a dump it was.
02:29:17.000 So that's all good.
02:29:18.000 But it doesn't really move me to hear that our crime statistics are better.
02:29:22.000 It doesn't excite me.
02:29:23.000 And they keep pushing that.
02:29:25.000 Well, those cops got caught flubbing the numbers.
02:29:28.000 Right.
02:29:28.000 Well, but they were flubbing the numbers there.
02:29:29.000 And it's like when they tell me, now believe statistics.
02:29:32.000 They were lying to us before, but now believe statistics.
02:29:35.000 Hey, look, my poll is good.
02:29:36.000 Believe my poll now, finally, because it's good.
02:29:38.000 I don't believe any of it.
02:29:39.000 I don't believe any statistics.
02:29:40.000 I don't believe the polls.
02:29:41.000 I would just say this if you believe we're at war with these people, you would behave differently than we have.
02:29:48.000 I will concede that.
02:29:49.000 That's how I feel too.
02:29:51.000 And the only question then is if you know politics, you know, I worked for Phyllis Schlafly.
02:29:55.000 I often tell you, we used to talk, you know, you have to do what's possible, you have to find what's possible.
02:30:00.000 I banged my head against the wall for 16 of the 18 months.
02:30:04.000 And my assessment is this is what I can do best to be out here to do more.
02:30:09.000 But the fact is that we've got to demand that people see what's happening.
02:30:13.000 And look, here's how I'll finish.
02:30:15.000 It doesn't make me excited to say it.
02:30:18.000 When Charlie Kirk was shot and killed, it should have been a wake up call.
02:30:22.000 It should have never, ever had to change.
02:30:25.000 The idea that we celebrate his anniversary of his death and talk about him as opposed to sort of a dramatic change in American life.
02:30:32.000 Is haunting to me.
02:30:34.000 That's the one that says to me, wait, these people are never going to believe that we're at war with them.
02:30:40.000 On the surface, it feels, you know, like my attitude on most things, like I don't have access to classified information.
02:30:50.000 We only think we know what's going on with the war in Iran.
02:30:53.000 Everybody's got their theories. 0.99
02:30:54.000 I think my theory is more likely correct than everybody else's.
02:30:58.000 When you take a look, I'll give you the simple version.
02:30:59.000 When you take a look at every action taken by the administration in this term, Again, pacifying the Caribbean, the criminals, you're clearing transport lanes, Panama Canal negotiations, Greenland for Northwest Passage, exports in the Gulf, Venezuela, Cuba, shutting the Strait of Hormuz down.
02:31:16.000 It really does look like an intentional attack on the oil system, recentering oil production and exporting through the United States as opposed to the Gulf and the OPEC nations, cutting off China from 50% of their oil.
02:31:29.000 That's my theory.
02:31:30.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
02:31:31.000 What I can say is when it comes to domestic stuff, I can tell you.
02:31:36.000 On the surface, factually, they're not doing everything they can to win this.
02:31:42.000 So, my only conclusion is they must be in on it because there are things that I know they're capable of doing that they could do that they don't do.
02:31:51.000 Like, I'll keep it simple like things that Democrats do, putting Steve Bannon in jail.
02:31:57.000 Republicans could easily do any one of those things, they don't.
02:32:00.000 So, I'm like, they must all be in on it together because holding someone in contempt, like Comey or something, is really easy to do.
02:32:09.000 But they won't even do that.
02:32:10.000 The PR stuff is the easiest stuff.
02:32:13.000 The Democrats come out and lie, like Raskin lied about me.
02:32:16.000 They made up fake charges against two random individuals in Eastern Europe no one's ever heard of, so they could falsely accuse me, Dave Rubin, and Benny Johnson of being funded by the Russians, despite the fact Dave Rubin's show was watching viral clips of animals slipping on banana peels.
02:32:30.000 Our show was talking about weird nonsense like flat Earth and aliens, but that was one big psyop.
02:32:36.000 And that's why after the election they dropped the case, just disappeared.
02:32:39.000 Because it was all fake.
02:32:41.000 And we don't see that from the Republicans at all.
02:32:46.000 So they could absolutely be doing things in turn that are not even difficult, not even a challenge, and they won't.
02:32:52.000 They won't hold one person in contempt.
02:32:55.000 Why is that?
02:32:57.000 They could put somebody in jail for three months, even symbolically.
02:33:00.000 They won't do it.
02:33:02.000 Well, the practical answer is you wouldn't get that through the court system because the court system is so stacked.
02:33:07.000 But I mean, D.C. is so bad against us.
02:33:09.000 But my answer to that would be we ought to go to war with them.
02:33:11.000 I tried to.
02:33:12.000 I tried to go to war with the judges immediately.
02:33:14.000 Got bar complaints against me from two different sides.
02:33:17.000 Well, yeah, but you got to play underhand if they're playing underhanded.
02:33:19.000 My point is Republicans and Trump have been unwilling to do anything untoward.
02:33:24.000 The Democrats are like, all is fair and love is war.
02:33:28.000 And as you mentioned, like the rules of engagement, they're armed, we're not.
02:33:31.000 That's a choice.
02:33:32.000 Democrats never told you to lay down your weapons.
02:33:35.000 Republicans laid down their weapons and said, no, no, no, we're not doing this because we're better men.
02:33:39.000 And the Democrats were like, thank you, I guess.
02:33:42.000 Lock them up, boys.
02:33:43.000 And the Republicans smiled as they were beaten with an inch of their lives.
02:33:48.000 So, well, we'll see.
02:33:49.000 I mean, I appreciate the conversation, though, but we do got to grab these callers.
02:33:53.000 So we'll start with our good friend, Slow Discord.
02:33:58.000 Gonefall.
02:34:00.000 What's up, Gonefall?
02:34:03.000 If Discord works.
02:34:06.000 There you go.
02:34:07.000 What's up, brother?
02:34:08.000 What's up, man?
02:34:10.000 I've got a really important question that's been going around the Discord as of late.
02:34:17.000 It's a very serious one.
02:34:21.000 So the question is. 1.00
02:34:23.000 Is it gay to hold hands with a homie? 1.00
02:34:27.000 Yes. 1.00
02:34:28.000 Yes.
02:34:31.000 I'd say so. 1.00
02:34:32.000 Is it gay to hold hands with who? 1.00
02:34:34.000 A homie. 1.00
02:34:34.000 A homie. 1.00
02:34:35.000 All right. 0.97
02:34:36.000 I like that meme where it's like, don't forget to kiss your homies goodnight. 0.88
02:34:42.000 It is. 1.00
02:34:43.000 It is gay to hold hands with your homie. 0.98
02:34:45.000 There could be some nuance here. 0.98
02:34:47.000 Are you asking for a friend?
02:34:48.000 There could be some nuance.
02:34:49.000 I mean, if he's dying of cancer, it's not.
02:34:52.000 That's what I go to.
02:34:53.000 I'm like, what if it's like a dire situation?
02:34:56.000 Yeah, if your homie's on his deathbed.
02:34:59.000 And he reaches out his hand and you grab his hand and you're like, you'll always be my brother.
02:35:04.000 And he's like, he smiles at you and then you hear like he flatlines as like it takes him.
02:35:10.000 That's actually the manliest thing a person could do. 0.98
02:35:12.000 But if you're like going for a walk in the park and he looks at you and you reach out his hand and you hold it as you walk together, yeah, that's gay. 0.98
02:35:12.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:35:18.000 Yeah, that's probably gay. 1.00
02:35:20.000 Yeah, I think there's certain situations in which it would be probably the best case scenario. 1.00
02:35:25.000 I just don't know.
02:35:26.000 Especially if it's laced fingers. 1.00
02:35:28.000 That's really gay. 1.00
02:35:29.000 And context matters too because if you're doing like a three legged race, You got to hold hands. 0.99
02:35:29.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:35:34.000 That's not gay. 1.00
02:35:35.000 It's like you and your buddy grab hands and you put the one leg in the beanbag. 1.00
02:35:38.000 You know that one?
02:35:39.000 It's the classic, like, office photo of the guy helping the other guy.
02:35:39.000 Yeah.
02:35:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:35:43.000 Holding hands while you're latching onto him before he falls to his death is super manly. 1.00
02:35:47.000 Well, I don't want to be gay. 0.99
02:35:49.000 Is it functional or is it for intimacy? 1.00
02:35:56.000 These are the questions you're here for, aren't they? 0.99
02:35:59.000 Well, the intimacy one, yes, is gay. 0.92
02:36:02.000 But, like, you know, if it's functional, like, hey, you know, I'm grabbing his hand because he's, you know, needs a hand getting up the, you know, the rock that we're climbing, then, then no. 0.80
02:36:13.000 If it's like acting upon attraction or facilitating sodomy, I think we could probably say no.
02:36:13.000 Yeah.
02:36:19.000 But I think there's an array of possibilities for instances in which it wouldn't be gay. 0.99
02:36:24.000 And I think that's the more thought provoking. 0.97
02:36:27.000 I think we've outlined a lot of these, you know, potential scenarios deathbed, rock climbing, you know, walking in a really good meal.
02:36:35.000 Really good meal.
02:36:35.000 Three.
02:36:36.000 You got to hold hands after to celebrate.
02:36:39.000 I think it's, you know, When I was a child.
02:36:42.000 So the question actually is not always.
02:36:44.000 Well, what if you're hostage?
02:36:45.000 The answer is not always.
02:36:47.000 Actually, that's a really funny point. 0.99
02:36:49.000 It is not always gay to hold a hand with a homie. 1.00
02:36:52.000 There are circumstances, like he's dying of cancer. 0.99
02:36:55.000 Caveats?
02:36:56.000 Yeah.
02:36:56.000 You know?
02:36:57.000 Well, and also it's a question of how long are you holding? 0.95
02:36:59.000 You're holding a hand, and he still says, like right before he goes, he's like, you're gay. 0.79
02:37:06.000 I think he's asking this because he's being held hostage right now.
02:37:08.000 It sounds like he has a whole lot of time.
02:37:10.000 Yeah, are you being held hostage right now?
02:37:14.000 Yeah.
02:37:15.000 Yeah.
02:37:15.000 There we go.
02:37:16.000 Gotten to the bottom of it.
02:37:18.000 Well, there you go. 0.99
02:37:18.000 Some sort of sodomite kingpin has pulled up in some gay bar in San Francisco or something. 0.99
02:37:25.000 I don't know what's going on. 0.78
02:37:27.000 To answer your question, it's nuanced.
02:37:30.000 There is no good answer.
02:37:33.000 There is no good answer.
02:37:35.000 If you're just hanging out with your boys at their house, yes. 1.00
02:37:38.000 I would say that's probably pretty gay. 1.00
02:37:41.000 Yeah. 0.97
02:37:45.000 You got to answer your question.
02:37:46.000 Do you got a follow up there?
02:37:50.000 I think these are great answers.
02:37:50.000 What?
02:37:53.000 You're very muffled.
02:37:53.000 I wish there was something I could do about your audio, sir.
02:37:56.000 I'm just concerned, you know, friends in the Navy, and they say it's not gay, you know, like to frolick around, hold hands, and hold in bed. 0.80
02:38:07.000 Yeah. 0.93
02:38:08.000 If you're in the Navy, hold hands, that's definitely.
02:38:10.000 Yeah, the Navy is where it's like no holds barred.
02:38:13.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:38:13.000 If you're in the Navy, you're gay. 1.00
02:38:19.000 Jack Misova could be the expert on this, I think. 1.00
02:38:21.000 That's right.
02:38:22.000 I have to have him weigh in.
02:38:22.000 Yeah.
02:38:24.000 I do like how all the different branches rib on each other, though.
02:38:26.000 My favorite was when these guys I knew in the Army called the Air Force the Chair Force, but I guess everyone calls it that.
02:38:31.000 Yeah.
02:38:32.000 The Chair Force.
02:38:35.000 Yeah.
02:38:36.000 Anyway, you want to shout anything out, brother?
02:38:39.000 Oh, shout out to the Discord.
02:38:41.000 I love them all and all the, you know, dormies and all the regulars.
02:38:45.000 I love them all.
02:38:46.000 They're all cool.
02:38:47.000 Do you hold hands with them all?
02:38:49.000 Do you join the Discord?
02:38:50.000 It could change your life.
02:38:53.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:38:53.000 Right on.
02:38:54.000 Thanks, man.
02:38:55.000 That was a real, yeah.
02:38:56.000 All right.
02:38:58.000 Philosophical conundrum he presented us.
02:39:00.000 Yeah.
02:39:01.000 Actually, it got more, it got deeper than I thought.
02:39:04.000 Fire God Vulcan.
02:39:08.000 What's up, Fire God?
02:39:09.000 Fire God Vulcan.
02:39:10.000 What's up, man?
02:39:11.000 Yeah, that's.
02:39:13.000 Sorry, I'm that white gamer that, you know, is on welfare, even though I own a house and two children.
02:39:18.000 You crushed that acting gig, you crushed your SAG card, should be coming soon because that was fantastic.
02:39:25.000 Well, I got a hypothetical question for you guys, and then I got a.
02:39:29.000 Another question and then a statement afterwards.
02:39:31.000 My hypothetical, it's 1950, right?
02:39:34.000 We just won World War II, five years out.
02:39:36.000 We are at the peak of American power.
02:39:40.000 And a smaller country, let's say like Canada, decides to send agents into our country to assassinate our president.
02:39:47.000 What would be the reaction of the United States population at that time?
02:39:52.000 War?
02:39:53.000 Yeah.
02:39:55.000 We would just wipe Canada's military and politics out, right?
02:40:00.000 The political faction.
02:40:01.000 Yeah, I mean, well, Canada barely has a military as it is, but yeah.
02:40:05.000 So, like the explanation if a very powerful country allows another country to try to assassinate their leader, basically, if they allow it, their power would wane over time.
02:40:17.000 Yeah, I've made this point quite a bit.
02:40:20.000 Any nation that tries to kill our leader, we are obligated to go to war with them.
02:40:24.000 If they're, you know, that's just it.
02:40:27.000 There you go. 0.98
02:40:28.000 So, Iran tried to kill our president. 0.98
02:40:29.000 Correct. 0.75
02:40:33.000 So, we shouldn't be obligated to go to war with them. 0.97
02:40:36.000 Yeah, if the argument was after an attempt on the life of our president, we bombed the fuck and wiped out their 50 top leadership, I would say the war is over. 0.98
02:40:44.000 They could leave. 0.98
02:40:45.000 Yeah, but it's not.
02:40:45.000 They're still fighting.
02:40:47.000 I know.
02:40:47.000 Why?
02:40:47.000 We got to wipe that ideology out that would try to kill our president.
02:40:50.000 Well, see, that's, I think, when you kill 50 of the top brass, it's a question of like, what was the purpose of the war?
02:41:00.000 We wiped out the top brass that.
02:41:02.000 I think, you know?
02:41:03.000 I think the weakness with Trump is he's trying to make an excuse when he can keep it simplistic.
02:41:10.000 If he did from the get go.
02:41:13.000 But now that, again, the leadership is wiped out, what's the justification for an ongoing war?
02:41:19.000 They're still fighting back.
02:41:21.000 Their ideology is still there.
02:41:23.000 But you're not getting rid of ideology.
02:41:26.000 Only occupation over like six generations gets rid of ideology.
02:41:30.000 And even then, look at Ireland.
02:41:32.000 They resurrected Gaelic. 1.00
02:41:34.000 Look at the Jews. 1.00
02:41:34.000 They brought back Hebrew. 1.00
02:41:37.000 Yeah, but I'm not saying control Iran or occupy it. 0.99
02:41:41.000 Obviously, I would want a new regime.
02:41:43.000 But you need to take that regime out because even though the leadership was wiped out, they replaced themselves.
02:41:48.000 I know, but what are you going to do?
02:41:49.000 You're going to just keep bombing every single time? 0.95
02:41:51.000 Like at a certain point, you're like, we killed them all.
02:41:54.000 I think that's what he's getting at. 0.97
02:41:55.000 Just keep bombing.
02:41:55.000 Just keep bombing.
02:41:57.000 Mow the lawn. 0.99
02:41:58.000 Take the IRGC out.
02:41:59.000 Just wipe them out.
02:42:01.000 Allow the people I've run around to take control.
02:42:03.000 Offer trade deals and friendship with them and leave.
02:42:08.000 I mean.
02:42:09.000 Well, that would require Trump to be actually going after them, but instead he's just in the Strait of Hormuz.
02:42:14.000 And this is the issue.
02:42:15.000 I think our politics and the people in this country have their patriotism weakened to the point where they don't accept. simplistic ideals to actually do what needs to be done in order to keep the power in this country.
02:42:26.000 Yep. 0.99
02:42:27.000 Also, I don't know if we have the capability to take out Iran. 0.95
02:42:30.000 There's also a large portion of the, there's a large portion of the population, or at least a large portion of the Republican Party that is far more isolationist and thinks that the United States should not be so aggressive in influencing other, other countries' political, you know, I agree with that 100%. 0.87
02:42:50.000 I am more or less an isolationist, but if another country tries to kill our leader, Wipe them out.
02:42:58.000 Yeah, I mean, okay. 0.61
02:43:02.000 That's a legitimate take, I guess, you know? 0.72
02:43:05.000 I mean, otherwise, our power would slowly wane over time if we allow it to happen over, you know, because they're going to be like, well, Iran's still standing, even though they tried to kill his leader. 0.95
02:43:13.000 Let's all try to kill their leader. 0.99
02:43:16.000 That's a legitimate argument, yeah, I think. 1.00
02:43:19.000 So, you're not going to get it.
02:43:22.000 That's all really I wanted to say.
02:43:24.000 I'm just sad that the patriotism in this country has dropped down because.
02:43:28.000 People are complaining about the economy and stuff like that, but I'm sure the people in World War II had a bad economy during World War II.
02:43:34.000 Everything went more expensive. 0.62
02:43:35.000 That's what happens during war.
02:43:36.000 But if you have a good reason to fight, and this is the problem, our political class is not giving good reasons to fight, then we should be willing to sacrifice just like our military is sacrificing. 0.77
02:43:50.000 We didn't join World War II until the Japanese bombed us. 0.95
02:43:53.000 I mean, it's like completely incomparable with Iran, where, I mean, Iran, like, whether you're for the war or not, I mean, We were doing a tango with them for the last 50 years versus World War II, which was like. 0.96
02:44:07.000 I agree, the Japanese bombed us and killed our military soldiers. 0.96
02:44:10.000 Who's the head of our military?
02:44:12.000 Pete Hegseth?
02:44:15.000 No, the President of the United States.
02:44:16.000 Okay.
02:44:18.000 Yeah, but again, I mean, it's.
02:44:23.000 In order to garner national support for a war, it's not as simple as that.
02:44:29.000 Pearl Harbor had a massive.
02:44:32.000 It used to be.
02:44:34.000 If Iran presented the hypothetical in 1950, if Canada tried to assassinate our president, what would we do?
02:44:41.000 We would wage war because the patriotism during that time was a lot higher than it is now. 0.50
02:44:46.000 I mean, if you added it, it's a declaration of war.
02:44:49.000 You tried to kill our president.
02:44:51.000 But these are vast, you're comparing it to World War II, and it's like, it's just vastly different.
02:44:56.000 I mean, the context.
02:44:57.000 Comparing to after World War II.
02:45:01.000 I mean, again, if an Iranian agent got up and took a pot shot at Trump, and this was well documented, this was put in the press, that'd be one thing.
02:45:08.000 But you're talking about a foiled conspiracy.
02:45:11.000 I mean, there are 30 foiled conspiracies on the president probably every year.
02:45:14.000 I mean, this was the case even under Obama.
02:45:16.000 I mean, you don't like it.
02:45:18.000 Two of them were caught and arrested and tried.
02:45:21.000 Yeah, it's correct. 0.89
02:45:22.000 But, okay, to the point of is this grounds for war?
02:45:27.000 I mean, that's a completely different situation.
02:45:30.000 Because, I mean, again, the reason we're going to war with Iran is not because they tried to assassinate the president and the war is deeply unpopular.
02:45:39.000 Again, because the things that were precursors to World War II were vastly different than the precursors to the Iran War.
02:45:45.000 A lot of people.
02:45:47.000 My hypothetical was after World War II.
02:45:50.000 Again, if Canada, I mean, but that's just irrelevant.
02:45:52.000 I mean, if Canada, but Canada, why would, I mean, that's just, it's completely. 0.53
02:45:56.000 The statement is if you allow a country to try to assassinate your president and you don't respond in kind, such as war and wipe that country out, other countries are going to do it.
02:46:08.000 Your power would wane over time.
02:46:09.000 That's just not, but that's not true at all.
02:46:11.000 I mean, what do you want him to do?
02:46:12.000 He's killed all the top brass of the IRGC. 0.68
02:46:15.000 We bombed them last summer. 0.97
02:46:16.000 We're bombing them again. 1.00
02:46:18.000 I mean, again, like the IRGC. 0.62
02:46:21.000 Yeah, we've taken out all their top brass.
02:46:23.000 I mean, I don't know what more you want the president to do here.
02:46:26.000 I mean, again, regime change is not going to happen.
02:46:27.000 It's never going to happen in a million years.
02:46:30.000 Does the IRGC still exist?
02:46:31.000 Maybe in a million, at least.
02:46:33.000 Well, if there's like a heat death or something.
02:46:35.000 If there's the heat death.
02:46:37.000 Yeah, but this is just such a sloppy way to justify this war, which there's a reason why the Trump administration backed away from this talking point because they realized, no, it's completely incomparable to the past.
02:46:49.000 I mean, from the perspective from a lot of American people, they're saying, well, we've been. 0.65
02:46:53.000 Having this tango with Iran, like, of course, we killed their leader. 0.82
02:46:57.000 So, of course, there's going to be this tango. 1.00
02:47:00.000 But you're right, it's a sloppy way.
02:47:02.000 But my proof was that I asked all of you in the hypothetical after World War II, when our patriotism was at its peak, we've all decided to wipe out the country to try to assassinate our president.
02:47:13.000 Now, there's so much politics involved and so much weakness and patriotism in this country that we have to come up with all these different reasons rather than keeping the simplistic view.
02:47:23.000 We need to maintain our world power.
02:47:25.000 No country needs to threaten us. 0.99
02:47:27.000 If you threaten us, such as trying to kill our president, kill our soldiers, or anything like that, we come after you and we wipe you out. 0.82
02:47:35.000 But part of the reason there's not this drum up of patriots and this demand for war is because people of your ilk squandered all of that in the global war on terror. 0.97
02:47:43.000 So, like, a lot of people are not going to be super fired up about a Middle Eastern intervention because we already did this two times.
02:47:50.000 So, it's like, I agree, in a vacuum, this should be the response, but there's so much extra context where it's not the same as if.
02:47:57.000 Canada, who was an ally in 1950, abruptly assassinated or attempted to assassinate a president.
02:48:02.000 That's just, it's a completely different context from a global adversary.
02:48:06.000 We're coming out of two wars that were deeply unpopular.
02:48:08.000 The neocons squandered all of their political capital on it and they're on the way out.
02:48:12.000 I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's just incomparable.
02:48:15.000 I, I saw you trying to like set this hypothetical up with, with your 1950 example, but it's just, you're comparing apples to oranges here.
02:48:22.000 I mean, these are two completely different scenarios.
02:48:24.000 Again, if, well, you're right.
02:48:25.000 If Norway turned around and if the Norwegians turned around and tried to assassinate Trump, it'd be like, I think the Americans.
02:48:31.000 Probably would be okay with glassing them, but it's so inconceivable because Norway, like, why would they're an ally, you know, they're an et cetera?
02:48:38.000 It's like the same thing. 0.80
02:48:40.000 Hold on, I want to get this right.
02:48:42.000 You think an ally would garner more attack than our adversary?
02:48:48.000 That was your hypothetical, where you're saying Canada is stabbing us in the back and it's something that assassinated a president.
02:48:54.000 I was proving if we're willing to do that to our ally, why aren't we doing it to someone we don't like?
02:48:59.000 We just have, dude.
02:49:01.000 How many servicemen are dead?
02:49:03.000 How many officials have we killed?
02:49:04.000 How much money have we wasted?
02:49:06.000 We're going to lose the midterms because of this.
02:49:08.000 What more do you want, dude?
02:49:10.000 That's the problem.
02:49:11.000 We're losing the midterm because of this, because the politics and the patriotism in this country has gone so bad that we are not willing to accept simplistic reasons to maintain the authority and power in this world.
02:49:24.000 But part of the reason it's down is because your ilk won't take responsibility that you've just led us into these countless quagmires where, yeah, a lot of people aren't too thrilled about this.
02:49:34.000 I'm an isolationist.
02:49:35.000 You're an isolationist advocating for the Iran war?
02:49:37.000 That makes zero sense.
02:49:39.000 I'm advocating that we have to respond to the assassination attempt of our president.
02:49:43.000 You're the only person in the country that thinks that because everyone in the Trump administration that's beating the war drum for Iran is completely separate.
02:49:50.000 My explanation is Trump is a politician, so he needs to say what he can say to get as much support as he can.
02:49:56.000 I'm saying this country has weakened its patriotism, that he has to do that rather than stating this is a simplistic reason that in order for our country to maintain its freedom and power, we cannot let our adversaries attempt to kill our presidents.
02:50:10.000 I mean, I think he's tried to outline up the outside of the war.
02:50:14.000 The only argument is Trump blew up all of their top brass.
02:50:17.000 That's it.
02:50:19.000 You're not going to change their ideology because you're looking at 12 to 15 million people that are advocating for it.
02:50:26.000 And you only do that through a generational occupation.
02:50:29.000 If you're not going to do a generational occupation, blow up their leadership and go home.
02:50:33.000 Yeah, it's just there's more and more and more demands.
02:50:36.000 And it's just like we've already expended so much to carry this war out for a very narrow class of people that actually care about it.
02:50:43.000 And it's still not enough. 0.98
02:50:44.000 There's lots of people in Iran.
02:50:46.000 There's the IRGC and there's the original Republic of Iran that are not the IRGC that believe the IRGC is an invading force. 0.99
02:50:53.000 And they supported their king, and this other group came in, and they're Islamic jihadists and Muslims that tried to spread this religion across their entire country and they corrupted the country, right? 0.82
02:51:04.000 I mean, that sentiment is common in the diaspora, so we engage with that more. 1.00
02:51:04.000 Yes. 1.00
02:51:08.000 But I keep getting these people in my replies, and I'm like, no, that reality is not the reality in Iran.
02:51:15.000 Like, our bombings of Iran have actually created a rally around the flag moment in Iran, where like this dynamic, yes, that's the case in Los Angeles.
02:51:24.000 Yes, the Persian community there are monarchist or whatever, but But the reality on the ground in Iran, it's not happening. 0.52
02:51:31.000 I mean, we did everything we could to create room for them to carry out a revolution, and it just hasn't happened.
02:51:35.000 The opposite happened.
02:51:36.000 Aren't we currently seeing splinter cells fighting against their own military?
02:51:40.000 You're seeing ethnic minorities who have always battled with the central government continue to battle with the central government. 0.61
02:51:46.000 I mean, there's limited skirmishes that they can put down pretty quickly.
02:51:50.000 Again, it's not going to happen.
02:51:52.000 I mean, again, you have Israel fanatics, you have Iranian monarchists, and then you have neocons, and all three of them keep demanding more from us.
02:52:03.000 And we're saying, no, we're sick of it.
02:52:07.000 Again, because of these fantasies that never actually play out. 0.88
02:52:09.000 Oh, we're going to go into Iraq and we're going to create this.
02:52:12.000 Didn't happen. 1.00
02:52:13.000 Iraq's in Iran's pocket. 1.00
02:52:14.000 Now we're going to go to Afghanistan. 0.86
02:52:16.000 We're going to create this because of a liberal democracy. 0.91
02:52:19.000 And then why do we need to occupy?
02:52:21.000 I don't understand why we need to occupy.
02:52:23.000 We can take a country, wipe out the bad guy, and give it to the people who want the country and say, we're your friends.
02:52:28.000 Here's a trade agreement.
02:52:29.000 We tried that and it didn't work. 0.64
02:52:31.000 I mean, that was the whole idea behind the Iran war is that we take out all their top brass and then these people rise up, and it hasn't happened. 0.71
02:52:39.000 It was a failure. 0.69
02:52:39.000 It was a mistake. 0.69
02:52:40.000 And we got to admit that.
02:52:42.000 Yeah, because the IRGC still exists. 0.86
02:52:46.000 We killed 50 plus of their officials.
02:52:49.000 They just replaced them with other people that agree. 0.99
02:52:50.000 I think people are underestimating how many people in Iran are still.
02:52:54.000 Plus, if the U.S. official gets wiped out, does the U.S. not exist anymore?
02:53:00.000 No, because we have a chain of command.
02:53:01.000 They have a chain of command.
02:53:01.000 Again, if Iran were to try and pursue a regime change in the United States, that would take.
02:53:05.000 50 plus officials being wiped out is not going to change that. 1.00
02:53:11.000 That's why it was so stupid to pursue regime change. 0.96
02:53:16.000 Well, no, what I'm saying is we're not doing enough and quickly enough to just wipe out the whole IGC. 0.99
02:53:21.000 Just take them out.
02:53:22.000 Well, that mentality is going to continue to cost us elections.
02:53:22.000 Okay.
02:53:25.000 It's going to cost us the midterms and it's going to cost us more elections when, again, the whole impetus behind Trump was to prevent these sort of quagmires from happening. 0.95
02:53:32.000 I mean, again, it's just fantasy land that we're going to go into Iran. 0.73
02:53:36.000 And kill a bunch of their guys, and then suddenly, like, it's a Marvel movie, all the locals are going to rise up. 0.51
02:53:40.000 It didn't happen. 0.96
02:53:41.000 It was a failure.
02:53:43.000 So you're saying we should allow an ideology that's willing to try to assassinate our president to still exist?
02:53:49.000 No, I got to push back on Tate.
02:53:50.000 Tate, you're wrong.
02:53:52.000 In the Marvel movie in Age of Ultron, the locals were throwing rocks at the Avengers.
02:53:56.000 They hated the Avengers.
02:53:57.000 Yeah.
02:53:58.000 They didn't rise up.
02:53:59.000 We also, I mean, like, this is part of geopolitics, it's part of brinksmanship.
02:53:59.000 Yeah.
02:54:04.000 I mean, North Korea exists, China.
02:54:06.000 Like, we can't just, because there's an ideology on Earth that we disagree with, go scorched Earth and destroy them.
02:54:11.000 I mean, it's.
02:54:13.000 You can't?
02:54:13.000 We tried.
02:54:14.000 It didn't work very well.
02:54:15.000 I mean, eventually you just got to get a little bit like, you know, spheres of influence, et cetera.
02:54:20.000 I mean, kind of go back to the basics on geopolitics. 0.80
02:54:24.000 Like the North Koreans. 0.97
02:54:25.000 I mean, I'm sure the North Koreans have probably tried to drop a piano on our president or something. 1.00
02:54:30.000 And they still exist. 0.99
02:54:32.000 Trump's quite respected.
02:54:32.000 They allowed Trump to cross their border individually alone.
02:54:35.000 So I'm not sure about that one.
02:54:37.000 Yeah.
02:54:37.000 I mean, because again, our approach to North Korea is vastly different.
02:54:40.000 Granted, they had China backing them up fully.
02:54:42.000 I mean, that was part of it. 0.86
02:54:44.000 You wonder if the Chinese weren't in the equation, what we would have done with North Korea. 0.82
02:54:48.000 But again, there was this realistic understanding that when, I mean, you got to go back to 2017.
02:54:53.000 I mean, the relations with North Korea, it was looking really rough there.
02:54:58.000 But they understood that a regime change would be too costly, not worth it.
02:55:01.000 I mean, we didn't even pursue regime change in Venezuela, you know?
02:55:05.000 I mean, because we understand that it probably wouldn't work and it'd make the situation worse.
02:55:09.000 Like, I think Marco Rubio's approach to Venezuela is very mature, which is just, I don't know, bend their arm.
02:55:15.000 Like, once you've got them under your thumb, bend their arm. 0.93
02:55:18.000 Iran is just vastly more complicated, complex, powerful, wealthy, et cetera, than the Venezuelans, and they're not in our hemisphere. 0.97
02:55:25.000 So it's going to be impossible to conduct any long term operations there.
02:55:29.000 Well, they're not so wealthy anymore.
02:55:31.000 I think the points have been made to the best they can have been made.
02:55:34.000 Do you want to shout anything out, brother?
02:55:37.000 No, everything's doing good.
02:55:39.000 Basically, keep the patriotism up and keep speaking what you're speaking to.
02:55:43.000 Right on, brother.
02:55:44.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:55:46.000 All right.
02:55:46.000 Thanks, dude.
02:55:49.000 All right, next up we've got salty bag of nuts.
02:55:56.000 So salty loads.
02:55:58.000 What's up, bag of nuts?
02:56:03.000 Not much.
02:56:04.000 I have a question for the guests.
02:56:05.000 Can you guys hear me?
02:56:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:56:11.000 Okay, cool.
02:56:14.000 It's regarding your relationship with Phyllis Shapeweed.
02:56:18.000 Yep.
02:56:20.000 I was kind of digging into you a little bit so I could see who you were, and your relationship with her was kind of cool.
02:56:26.000 I looked her up, and she seemed like an amazing woman.
02:56:29.000 So, the question is going to sound like I'm attacking you, but that's something I meant.
02:56:36.000 So, it goes like this it's like you were her handpicked successor, and her own daughter led the board that fired you.
02:56:47.000 Ten years later, two of you are still running rival organizations using her name.
02:56:53.000 What do you think she would feel about that?
02:56:55.000 And if you can tell the story of what happened, because it sounds like the younger daughter kind of did you dirty.
02:57:01.000 No, I mean, look, first of all, wherever you're reading that, that's old because I'm not running the organization anymore.
02:57:06.000 But it's easier to say that Phyllis Schlafly died at 92 years old in 2016.
02:57:13.000 When she died four days later, Trump came off the campaign trail and came to her funeral.
02:57:18.000 She backed him early.
02:57:19.000 She was one of the earliest backers of him, especially from the social conservative side.
02:57:25.000 And so she was amazing.
02:57:26.000 She was a really interesting lady, had a long career, anti communist, Catholic out of the Midwest, and then cut her teeth organizing the anti ERA movement.
02:57:36.000 And she was really the first one that organized Christians and Jews and Mormons to hold arms and link together.
02:57:44.000 And she was really an amazing lady.
02:57:46.000 So, all the rest of that, you got some of it right.
02:57:48.000 You got some of it off, but it's mostly in the past.
02:57:52.000 I was really honored that when she was going to pick her successor, she asked me to be her successor.
02:57:58.000 And we did that for a while.
02:58:00.000 The rest of it is family feuds and stuff that ended up in litigation, as Tim said.
02:58:08.000 There's nothing good in litigation or fights with lawyers.
02:58:11.000 So it's kind of water under the bridge.
02:58:13.000 But she was amazing.
02:58:15.000 And in fact, when I left the administration a month ago, I had an hour long conversation in the Oval Office with the president, just me and him.
02:58:22.000 And he talked a lot about Phyllis because when she backed him, nobody thought a social conservative from the Midwest like her would back a twice divorced New York former Democrat, et cetera.
02:58:35.000 So it was pretty amazing.
02:58:38.000 Very cool.
02:58:38.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:58:38.000 I'm a little.
02:58:39.000 I'm going to read more about her.
02:58:41.000 Yeah.
02:58:41.000 I was kind of blown away about it.
02:58:43.000 I've never even heard of her before.
02:58:44.000 Yeah. 0.94
02:58:45.000 She was amazing.
02:58:45.000 Yeah.
02:58:46.000 I mean, one thing I'll tell you for the kids listening she, when she was 14 years old, she had a teacher who told her to write 250 words a day, whole school year long.
02:58:54.000 And she said she never stopped writing.
02:58:56.000 That was her big ace in the hole.
02:58:58.000 She was a writer all the time, her whole life.
02:59:00.000 She wrote until she had a column she published the day after she died.
02:59:04.000 So she was, and she attributed that writing to clarity of thought.
02:59:09.000 You know, you just get stuff.
02:59:11.000 She was, um, She was cool.
02:59:12.000 If you really want to learn about her, the Lincoln Presidential Library has an oral history, and there's about 11 hours of Phyllis Schlafly being interviewed, and it's a pretty interesting career.
02:59:26.000 All right, Anja, I'll check that out.
02:59:27.000 My oldest daughter, she's 15, she wants to be a writer.
02:59:30.000 She's really upset about the AMS stuff coming out.
02:59:30.000 There you go.
02:59:32.000 Yeah.
02:59:34.000 Well, it's a good one.
02:59:36.000 Let's go.
02:59:36.000 Thank you.
02:59:38.000 You want to shout anything out, brother?
02:59:40.000 No, we're good.
02:59:41.000 Let's go down here.
02:59:42.000 All right.
02:59:42.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:59:46.000 Ed, it was great having you.
02:59:46.000 All right.
02:59:48.000 Yeah, good to be with you guys.
02:59:49.000 Great to be out here in the country.
02:59:51.000 Yeah, are you still based in D.C. then?
02:59:53.000 Yeah, Northern Virginia.
02:59:55.000 We should do the Tim Pool show, the one on one sit down conversation.
02:59:58.000 That'd be awesome.
02:59:59.000 Then it's much calmer.
03:00:00.000 I don't get as angry.
03:00:01.000 And then I just basically ask you all the questions.
03:00:03.000 I'd love it.
03:00:03.000 Good.
03:00:04.000 The challenge with Tim Kest IRL is everyone expects it to be a sit down interview show because we have the guests come on, but it's a news commentary show, so it is what it is.
03:00:11.000 But I appreciate you coming out.
03:00:12.000 And for everybody, thank you for calling.
03:00:14.000 We're back tomorrow morning.
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03:00:18.000 We'll see y'all there.