Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 28, 2026


Trump Just NUKED Woke Universities From Orbit With New Policies | Timcast IRL

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00:02:07 Donald Trump has just stripped Title IX protections from LGBTQ students.
00:02:14 This is through the Education Department.
00:02:15 So theoretically, it should extend basically to all public schooling.
00:02:18 This means that identity is no longer protected under the Civil Rights Act based on this new rule.
00:02:25 And it's not the only one.
00:02:26 A couple of months ago, a story broke, and we were actually surprised to find we didn't see it until today.
00:02:32 In fact, it seems to be the case.
00:02:34 Many people didn't.
00:02:37 Effectively banned what they're describing as worthless student degrees.
00:02:42 This is going to destroy the woke university system.
00:02:46 So let me explain.
00:02:47 They are saying if your degree doesn't make enough money, if the jobs you can get from it don't make enough money, you can't get a loan for it. 0.97
00:02:56 This means every single woke, stupid, feminist, interpretive, dance, politics, sociology nonsense is not going to be eligible for loans, and the universities will not. 0.96
00:03:07 Have any funding for them. 0.99
00:03:09 The government subsidy of woke ended with this rule.
00:03:13 Now we'll see exactly where it goes.
00:03:16 Of course, with the midterms coming up, the latest polling is not very good for Republicans, and people are wondering if the Republicans are just resigned to defeat.
00:03:24 That may be the case, but Trump is pulling out his secret weapon himself and culture war issues.
00:03:30 Now, of course, liberal media is ragging on him, saying it's a mistake, he shouldn't do it, he's not popular enough.
00:03:36 Trump is putting this election on himself.
00:03:39 And Republicans are shifting the conversation from economics into culture war issues where they know they can see benefits.
00:03:46 Despite all that, however, polls are not particularly good.
00:03:49 And then, my friends, a story that's going viral because it's fun.
00:03:53 You know, seven years ago, NASA ran a simulation, a prediction that there was an asteroid that had a 1% chance of striking the Earth in April of 2027.
00:04:04 Now the story's coming back up because, of course, we're only a few months away.
00:04:10 And, you know, nothing's going to happen because nothing ever happens, right?
00:04:14 A meteor strike of all things.
00:04:16 But people like to, I don't know why, I guess, but you get it.
00:04:20 People like to imagine these things are possible, they're likely going to happen, and they're just not.
00:04:24 And, you know, it is what it is.
00:04:28 But we also got to talk about Trevor Lawrence.
00:04:29 I don't know if you guys saw this.
00:04:31 I'm not a football guy, and my entire Instagram feed is loaded with people.
00:04:36 I'm seeing all these viral videos where they're claiming Trevor Lawrence took a knee.
00:04:40 All right, in this football game at the one yard line with about nine minutes left in the game.
00:04:45 It makes no sense.
00:04:46 And then he made a comment about he was doing it for the Fantasy League fans, and people are screaming.
00:04:52 The idea now is that Homeboy knew he was affecting the state of the game to benefit gamblers, potentially himself, and this is all rigged.
00:05:02 I've seen some people post he should be criminally charged or investigated for taking a knee at this point.
00:05:08 His argument, of course, he came outside, oh, he's trying to run the clock down.
00:05:10 Run the clock down at nine minutes?
00:05:13 This seems very strange.
00:05:15 And with all the sports gambling and weird poker gambling, you know, mafia stuff we've heard of the past year or so, there's a lot of people who are just like, look, it happens.
00:05:25 And we know they're doing it. 1.00
00:05:26 That being said, you have to be pretty, pretty stupid to try and do that now. 1.00
00:05:30 So we're going to talk about that and everything else. 1.00
00:05:33 Joining us tonight to talk about that and so much more is Ed Martin.
00:05:37 Good to be with you, Tim.
00:05:38 Thank you.
00:05:38 That's a lot to cover.
00:05:39 That's a range.
00:05:41 I don't know where to start.
00:05:43 I'm worried about the asteroid right now.
00:05:44 You know, I got to.
00:05:45 I mean, that's the most fun story.
00:05:46 Yeah, that's it.
00:05:46 It makes everything go away.
00:05:48 Yeah, that's right.
00:05:48 It's easier.
00:05:50 But you actually have experience as it relates to some of the sports betting stuff, too.
00:05:53 Yeah, you know, I was just telling the story.
00:05:54 I met the guy, Jon Tay Porter, who is from Mizzou, from Missouri, and he was jammed on this gambling.
00:06:02 And he came in, I met with him, and we were talking about the issue.
00:06:06 And it is extraordinary.
00:06:07 And here's the thing his description to me was it's everywhere.
00:06:11 In other words, in the NBA, these guys are all gambling in all kinds of ways.
00:06:16 And then, so then you just say to yourself, okay, are they just gambling on things that they care about?
00:06:20 Or are they gambling on stuff that suddenly somebody can have an impact?
00:06:23 Because some of those bets, as you know, are like how many minutes you'll play in a quarter of an NBA game.
00:06:29 Yeah.
00:06:29 So if you go in, and this is what he admitted to, you go into a quarter and you immediately say, oh, my back hurts and they take you out, you've now.
00:06:36 Controlled what you did in that quarter, which somebody's betting on, and you've got some friend or third party who's like, Don't play more than it's a minute now.
00:06:44 In the third quarter, play you know, your performance has to be below three points.
00:06:48 So you get in, my hamstring hurts, and you're out.
00:06:51 So I, and look, you say that and you say, Oh, well, the NBA, what do those guys like?
00:06:55 Now realize that the budget for these football college football teams are 30 or 40 or million dollars.
00:07:02 There's 18 year old kids with a million dollars in their pocket, and you don't think that they're gambling.
00:07:07 So it's a wild world, and yeah, I still don't understand.
00:07:10 You played the clip.
00:07:11 Trevor Lawrence, it's such a weird way to stop.
00:07:14 Something's going on in his head that we don't know yet.
00:07:17 It has to be.
00:07:18 I saw one theory they said that he was supposed to get tackled because that was the script.
00:07:23 But because the guy missed, he took a knee instead.
00:07:25 Like, what do I do?
00:07:26 But we'll get into it.
00:07:27 Hey, what are you currently working on?
00:07:28 What were you doing before?
00:07:29 Where are you at now?
00:07:30 Well, so I was in the Trump administration from day one.
00:07:33 In fact, it's a great story I love to tell.
00:07:35 I was supposed to be chief of staff at OMB.
00:07:38 And I got a phone call on Saturday night before Trump was sworn in on Monday.
00:07:42 And I was told, can you come down to the old Trump Hotel?
00:07:45 So I've hired everybody for OMB.
00:07:48 I worked with the Doge guys because they were sort of on the edges of OMB.
00:07:52 And Russ Vogt is the OMB chair, the director.
00:07:55 And I go down on Sunday morning, the day before Trump's sworn in, I go around the corner and sitting at a table is Sergio Gore and Charlie Kirk.
00:08:05 And they say, hey, you once said you wanted to be the U.S. attorney in D.C., that guy that was supposed to take that job didn't take it.
00:08:13 And the president elect wants someone to do that job, would you switch over?
00:08:17 And I said, well, I got to call Russ and make sure he's okay with it.
00:08:20 Russ is going to say whatever the president wants.
00:08:22 So I switched over that.
00:08:24 And the next day, we didn't know this. 0.97
00:08:25 The next day, the president pardoned all the January 6ers, right? 0.98
00:08:29 I had been hoping for that, but I didn't think actually it was going to happen. 1.00
00:08:32 So, anyways, off to the races. 0.76
00:08:34 So, for four months, I was a U.S. attorney in D.C., which was an unbelievable job.
00:08:38 Tons of power, tons of opportunity to do good.
00:08:41 I was taken, and we were talking earlier, or I heard Crowder talking about DEI.
00:08:46 I took on Georgetown Law when they were still doing DEI stuff publicly, Schumer, all kinds of things.
00:08:52 And then for four months I did that.
00:08:53 Then I got blocked by Tom Tillis, which I could tell you the story of the last meeting with Tom Tillis.
00:08:58 It haunts me to this day.
00:09:00 Haunting, actually.
00:09:01 Legit haunting.
00:09:02 I could tell later or whatever.
00:09:04 And then I was moved over because I wasn't confirmed.
00:09:06 The president was not going to tolerate that.
00:09:07 So he made me pardon attorney and the associate deputy attorney general for the weaponization group.
00:09:14 So all of a sudden I got this huge docket.
00:09:16 But not a lot of automatic power.
00:09:18 Both of those jobs are kind of like dig into it and then make an argument to other people about prosecuting weaponization or pardoning.
00:09:25 That's the president's prerogative.
00:09:27 But very interesting.
00:09:28 And I did a lot of work for the president and for what his priorities were.
00:09:32 And it was great.
00:09:33 But I left about a month ago.
00:09:34 I'm out on my own.
00:09:35 I'm working with Russ Vogt's old shop, the Center for Renewing America.
00:09:39 I'm also practicing law, which I'm enjoying.
00:09:42 I'm a lawyer.
00:09:43 But I'm getting ready.
00:09:44 We were talking offline.
00:09:46 I was on a media blackout.
00:09:48 The DOJ doesn't really value guys and gals out there ripping in the media.
00:09:53 So, I was really quiet and it made me crazy after a while because this is too important to make clear what's at stake and what's going on.
00:10:02 And look, we have not done enough in DOJ, fine, but we've done a hell of a lot.
00:10:07 And I want to talk about that.
00:10:08 And one big thing we can talk about too is Second Amendment stuff, which we made progress.
00:10:12 We made progress like nobody's done it in history.
00:10:15 And Trump did it, and Todd Blanch green lighted everything I was trying to do, and we did it.
00:10:20 So, it's good to be out, to be in the fight a little differently.
00:10:24 We've got a lot to fight about, so it's important.
00:10:26 We definitely got to get into all of it.
00:10:27 So thanks for hanging out.
00:10:28 It's going to be fun.
00:10:28 We got the boys.
00:10:29 Yeah, what's going on, Tate Brown?
00:10:31 You're holding it down.
00:10:32 We got the eagle here.
00:10:32 I'm super excited.
00:10:33 He's one of the best.
00:10:34 One of the best.
00:10:35 We got a good show, Phil.
00:10:36 I'm excited.
00:10:37 It's going to be good.
00:10:37 I'm excited.
00:10:38 Good to see you, Carter.
00:10:39 Hey, you too, Phil.
00:10:40 And yeah, let's get into it.
00:10:41 We've got a lot to talk about.
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00:12:03 Let's jump into the news.
00:12:04 We've got this from the Hill.
00:12:06 Education Department formally rescinds Title IX protections for LGBTQ students.
00:12:12 The Education Department announced Monday it has formally rescinded the Biden era Title IX interpretation that gave sex based discrimination protections to students based on their orientation and gender identity.
00:12:25 Schools must now go back to the code as it was held under the previous Trump administration in 2020, which they say will protect women's sports.
00:12:33 Quote.
00:12:34 Thanks to today's action, the published Title IX regulation faithfully reflects court orders and congressional intent.
00:12:40 Reducing confusion for parents, students, and educational institutions, we will continue to relentlessly champion equal opportunity for all Americans and hold accountable any school or college that violates the rights and privacy of or athletic opportunities for our women and girls, Education Secretary Linda McMahon said.
00:12:57 Now, we do have another story that actually broke in July and for some reason was just getting picked up today.
00:13:03 In fact, I don't even think we noticed it.
00:13:05 I actually vaguely remember it.
00:13:07 Trump is banning federal student loans for worthless college degrees. 0.98
00:13:12 These two stories, my friends, this is Trump launching a nuclear bomb in the culture war against the hive of scum and villainy that is woke universities. 0.96
00:13:23 Let me explain how massive this story is. 0.94
00:13:26 Both of these stories. 1.00
00:13:28 You've got tons of worthless humanities degrees, feminist interpretive dance. 1.00
00:13:33 I'm kidding, but you get the point. 1.00
00:13:36 They will not have funding for these anymore.
00:13:39 Got a professor who wants to teach critical race theory?
00:13:42 Unfortunately, you can't get a job in critical race theory, so you can't get a loan for it.
00:13:48 So the universities won't have any funding for it.
00:13:51 Thus, these classes will start to disappear.
00:13:54 People will stop attending them, and the universities will start to revert back from whence they came.
00:14:00 Now, this is exactly what we've been asking for for a long time.
00:14:03 This is the kind of culture war victory that I've demanded, nay, expected, and I'm glad to see it.
00:14:09 Now, the economy is not doing too great.
00:14:10 Gas is really expensive.
00:14:11 A war is on.
00:14:12 I don't know how much this moves the needle, but I'm going to give praise what praise is due because this is what I voted for.
00:14:18 Right now, you got a lot of prominent conservative personalities saying, yes, things aren't going great.
00:14:24 Yes, the Republicans haven't utilized the power they could, but the culture war victories we've gotten have been fantastic.
00:14:31 And Democrats, when they get in, are going to go nuclear in the opposite direction.
00:14:35 So I'm super excited for this.
00:14:37 This is tremendous news.
00:14:38 I'm curious what the panel thinks.
00:14:40 Well, I mean, to your point about should the Democrats, you know, get power, whether they get the office of the president in 28 or not, they're going to do everything they can to stymie the The administration.
00:14:54 Now, obviously, this is executive order stuff.
00:14:56 This is stuff that Trump's going to have been, you know, the largest portion of his successes have been through executive order.
00:15:04 And he's actually done a lot of stuff.
00:15:05 I know there's a lot of people that are unhappy with him, unhappy with some of the policies that he's actually gone through with.
00:15:12 But the majority of things that people were looking for that actually have been achieved, it's all executive order and all in the bureaucracy.
00:15:21 So, I mean, I would love to see more.
00:15:23 Obviously, this is a good thing.
00:15:25 Like Tim said, the humanities departments are doomed now.
00:15:29 But yeah, just more of this.
00:15:32 But you know, again, I hate to be back to Crowder.
00:15:34 We were watching Crowder a while ago and he's talking, and the Harvard law school dean was complaining, or professor was complaining that the government was cutting off, without due process, the money that they were getting from the government was giving to Harvard.
00:15:48 And my thing is, why do we have a system where we've created this massive payment scam?
00:15:54 It's just like the welfare programs, it's just like other things where these student loans are just propping up schools that make up Degrees.
00:16:01 And as you said, these two stories come together, Tim, because Title IX was created in 1972.
00:16:06 And it was in the era where they were trying to say, give women some protection in higher ed, in sports, in other opportunities.
00:16:15 And it became the vehicle.
00:16:17 And I know this intimately because I worked with Phyllis Schlafly, the late Phyllis Schlafly, who fought against the ERA.
00:16:22 Title IX became the way that the camel under the tent, because they went in and they used it every time they wanted to the left to do all this kinds of crazy stuff.
00:16:32 And it culminated.
00:16:33 With this trend, the gender surgery and gender affirming and all this politically woke stuff.
00:16:39 But it's been going on for a very long time.
00:16:42 And the point here is the pendulum needs to not just stop some of this stuff, it needs to swing back, in my opinion, and back harder than we've ever seen.
00:16:51 I think this is progress.
00:16:53 And as you put them together, Tim, they work as a way to say, hey, we got to stop these universities.
00:16:58 But man, there's a lot of other aspects of these laws that are dragging down our entire culture, not only higher ed.
00:17:06 Well, yeah, I mean, Title IX needs to go because I went to a Big East school and I was the reason we couldn't have a football team.
00:17:10 Exactly.
00:17:11 What, really?
00:17:12 Exactly. 1.00
00:17:12 Yeah, we had like women's field hockey. 1.00
00:17:13 It was like those random sports for women because they couldn't have football. 1.00
00:17:17 No, no, but 60 male scholarships. 1.00
00:17:18 Here's what you had to do every male scholarship has to be paired with a female.
00:17:21 So you have 100 male scholarships for football, then you got to have a swim team, a lacrosse team, girls' team.
00:17:26 Girls, girls, girls.
00:17:27 That's why across the country they've shut down wrestling programs. 0.99
00:17:30 Remember this? 0.99
00:17:31 They shut down wrestling programs because they couldn't afford 25 more guys because they had to do girls' scholarships.
00:17:37 And you're looking around going, how many. 1.00
00:17:39 Women's scholarships.
00:17:40 Because remember, you can have a soccer team, men's and women's are the same size, but nothing's like a football team in terms of scholarships. 0.51
00:17:46 And then they went crazy with the law and said every dollar has to match, not just scholarships. 0.52
00:17:50 So if you have a weight room for the men, it has to be matched by the size of the weight room for the women.
00:17:56 This is fascinating because Charlie Kirk had spoken out against the Civil Rights Act, highlighting specifically these things that the intention is good, but the output was bad.
00:18:04 And then, of course, the left manipulates the context, they lie about the context as to what he was saying and say he wanted to get rid of civil rights.
00:18:11 What he was saying was we all agree it was bad that people were being discriminated against.
00:18:15 Like they wanted to go to a grocery store, they wanted to go to the movies. 0.62
00:18:17 But the idea now, as you guys are pointing out, That you can't have a men's football team because women don't want to play football.
00:18:26 Now, this makes no sense.
00:18:29 So, I remember there was a lawsuit in the UC system.
00:18:34 There was like a women's only computer club.
00:18:37 Someone filed a lawsuit saying that violates Title IX.
00:18:40 That would be Title IX, I believe.
00:18:41 Title IX, yeah.
00:18:43 And they lost the suit.
00:18:44 The courts ruled that because there was a computer program available to men, they could do a women's only. 0.99
00:18:50 Right. 1.00
00:18:52 You simultaneously say we can't do regular football because there's no women on it. 1.00
00:18:56 Even if it's open to women, there's got to be a women's team on the other side. 1.00
00:18:59 But then women can have a woman only computer club as long as there's a general computer club for men. 1.00
00:19:06 They're playing it both ways in the courts. 1.00
00:19:08 Right.
00:19:09 We can't function.
00:19:09 Exactly.
00:19:10 But look, this is the old.
00:19:11 I don't know if you guys are a fan of Eric Hoffer, the old Hoffer's line that every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and degenerates into a racket.
00:19:21 We're in the racket stage.
00:19:22 The racket stage is you take Title IX.
00:19:25 1972, and you say, Hey, we got to do better at protecting women.
00:19:28 Okay, I don't know, maybe not a bad idea.
00:19:31 Then it became a business where people made money off of that.
00:19:34 And now it's a racket where they just come up with a pretext and they do things like gender affirmation and all these other things.
00:19:40 And by the way, I thought you were going to say something else.
00:19:43 I thought nobody was supposed to have a gender. 0.96
00:19:45 You were supposed to just say what you want. 0.96
00:19:47 So what does it matter?
00:19:48 Just go fluid and it shouldn't be a problem.
00:19:50 But these kinds of changes, to your point about Trump, Trump does these things consistently across his worldview thing.
00:19:58 That is very different.
00:19:59 Most Republicans don't do this because Laura Bush was not going to let George W. Bush do that because she played softball growing up.
00:20:07 I don't know, I'm just making it up.
00:20:08 But that's the way.
00:20:10 John McCain was not going to do it because his wife was really good at basketball when she was a kid, and we don't want to change the rules.
00:20:16 That's the problem with the Republicans when in power, and Trump keeps doing this stuff.
00:20:22 Yeah, well, and people, it's with the Breitbart quote, politics is downstream from culture.
00:20:27 But there's some instances where culture is downstream from politics, and this is one of them where Title IX.
00:20:32 Kind of culturally institutionalized this idea of gender parity. 1.00
00:20:35 Like, okay, women should be able to do exactly what a man can do.
00:20:38 Like, evidence for this in sports would be U.S. soccer, right? 0.98
00:20:41 The U.S. Soccer Federation that is in charge of the men's team and the women's team.
00:20:45 And the women's team said everything needs to be equal, the paychecks, et cetera.
00:20:49 This applied to the coach.
00:20:50 So the men's team now is an opening for their coaching slot.
00:20:53 And there's a really world class coach, Mauricio Pacchettino.
00:20:55 And he's like, I want to coach your team.
00:20:57 Problem the max salary they get offered is like a drop in the bucket compared to what he wanted. 0.56
00:21:02 Because they had to match what the women's coach was being paid, which is just never going to happen.
00:21:05 The Men's World Cup generates, you know, it's probably to the pie or something. 0.54
00:21:10 Like the order of money the Men's World Cup makes is, you know, completely dwarfs the Women's World Cup.
00:21:15 So instead, like the U.S. soccer had to go and knock on a bunch of billionaires' doors and say, just write this off, donate to our program, we'll get a good men's coach.
00:21:22 So it's like institutionalized, even in an organization like U.S. soccer, which has no obligations under Title IX to do so, they are now basically forced to do so because of this cultural mindset that is because of Title IX.
00:21:33 Did you guys see, we talked about it last week.
00:21:36 Dressmaker, the video game?
00:21:37 Yeah. 0.96
00:21:38 So they spend all this money. 1.00
00:21:40 These feminists get into these game studios and they're like, okay, so we're making a World War I battlefield game. 1.00
00:21:47 We want women to play video games, so we're going to make the main character a purple haired female amputee. 1.00
00:21:54 And everyone hated it because women don't want to go to World War I.
00:21:58 And somebody made a dressmaker simulator where all you do is make dresses and then your customers give you one to five stars, and women are drooling over it.
00:22:08 They love it.
00:22:10 Men and women are completely different. 1.00
00:22:12 And now we've built this system where we are trying to get women to do things they don't want to do and people don't want to watch. 0.99
00:22:20 I bring this up because there are things that people, generally men and women, like about men. 0.70
00:22:26 They want to see the most brutish of dudes do the most brutish of physical feats.
00:22:31 That's what they want to see.
00:22:33 Maybe it's boxing.
00:22:34 They want to see a dude bust another dude up, leave him bloody, and then they're both standing there covered in blood and sweat.
00:22:40 Everyone loves UFC.
00:22:42 And you know what? 1.00
00:22:43 Women's fighting, not so bad. 1.00
00:22:45 People like that too, but you know, eh. 1.00
00:22:47 Let me tell you about UFC.
00:22:49 The guys that you see.
00:22:51 Do you ever see like a regular guy walking around holding up round sign?
00:22:58 What about a big tittied, beautiful woman? 0.75
00:23:01 The reason why is men and women like these things. 1.00
00:23:05 They make these movies. 1.00
00:23:05 Women do. 1.00
00:23:07 Women don't want to see a movie where a woman is a superhero, they want to see a movie where a woman is the subject of desire from the greatest man.
00:23:15 So, we had things that women could do that people really enjoyed watching and men could do, and they're trying to invert it for some reason in some weird experiment that doesn't work.
00:23:27 It just doesn't work.
00:23:28 Okay. 0.80
00:23:29 Women, James Bond, why did men and women love to go see it?
00:23:33 Because men wanted to be him and women wanted to be with him.
00:23:36 The male fantasy is that you're the guy smoking the cigar and you flick it into the, you know, the gasoline vapors or whatever, and the bad guy goes, I'll get you gone.
00:23:45 You stop the villain from destroying the world.
00:23:47 And the female power fantasy was that the guy that everybody loved said, You're my choice. 0.72
00:23:53 And she loved that. 0.82
00:23:55 And now they're doing whatever all this nonsense is.
00:23:58 But you know what?
00:24:00 Stop blathering on about it.
00:24:02 Trump, the administration, has nuked the hive, the root system.
00:24:09 If this sticks and we win, if we hold for a few years, we can cleanse our universities of this social contagion.
00:24:18 Yeah, I don't have a lot of faith that it's going to hold for a few years because, again, I think that anything that Donald Trump does through executive action, the next president could undo if they were a Democrat.
00:24:29 I mean, I would love to see, you know, a JD Vance or a Marco Rubio or some other unnamed person that's a Republican, conservative, whatever you want to call him, sit in the Oval Office again.
00:24:45 Whether that happens or not is going to have us, you know, is going to really be the key as to whether or not these.
00:24:50 Policies can stick around long enough to have serious impact, right?
00:24:55 Because that's really what we're trying to do, or what he's trying to do here.
00:24:58 He's trying to roll back not just an administration or two, he's trying to roll back 60 years of progressive policy.
00:25:07 Because whether or not people want to admit it, George Bush had a lot of progressive policies.
00:25:12 Even Ronald Reagan had some policies that were considered.
00:25:15 I mean, he gave amnesty.
00:25:16 Nixon, too.
00:25:17 Yeah, Nixon as well.
00:25:18 So, I mean, you're talking about.
00:25:21 Decades and decades and decades of policies that were moving the country to the left.
00:25:27 And Donald Trump is the first president that, you know, in the past 70 years or 80 years, that is actually trying to move the needle back.
00:25:37 Not just trying to say, hold up there, Democrats, or stop and do what the Democrats would do, but slower.
00:25:44 He's actually trying to move it back.
00:25:46 And there's a lot of people that are going to be giving me crap about saying this, but it's true.
00:25:50 He's the only president that's ever significantly decreased the number of bureaucrats in D.C.
00:25:57 And that actually did happen as much as people don't want to admit it.
00:26:00 Or don't want to say that he did.
00:26:01 They don't want to give him credit because they're mad about this issue or that issue.
00:26:05 Most of the time, they tend to be mad about the Iran war.
00:26:09 But he's the only president that's actually started to move the needle back to the right.
00:26:13 And if he had another Congress that worked with him, he'd be even more successful because this stuff could be codified into law as opposed to just executive action.
00:26:23 But one thing about what you said that's so important is that Trump does these things that affect money, especially.
00:26:29 Like USAID, the attack on USAID took the money off the table.
00:26:33 It didn't take more than a month or two.
00:26:35 For people to have to adjust their life.
00:26:37 People getting six figure salaries in the suburbs of DC complaining about it.
00:26:41 Here's the thing about this if you pull back on these degrees and the loans for these silly degrees, it'll only take six months for these schools to go belly up, to your point. 0.86
00:26:51 You know, some of these small schools that are running through mills of these really stupid courses, as Tim said earlier, people aren't going to take those courses because they can see what's coming. 0.89
00:27:01 That's going to have a huge effect. 0.98
00:27:04 This is one of the reasons.
00:27:05 They don't have the money for it.
00:27:06 Right.
00:27:06 They don't have the money.
00:27:06 But that's one of the reasons why, like, remember, we're going to.
00:27:08 Why did we give the Chinese communists all those visas for the students? 0.95
00:27:12 300,000 students. 0.82
00:27:14 And the answer is because Harvard wanted the money.
00:27:17 And USC wanted the money. 0.85
00:27:19 And they wanted cash payments from the Chinese communist parents sending their kids to the schools. 0.91
00:27:24 You take that money away, and those schools look, in every city now, you have schools going under.
00:27:29 St. Louis is where I'm from.
00:27:31 Fonbonne University has been around for 80 years, 100 years, totally out of business now.
00:27:35 Because why?
00:27:36 Because they had like 100 of their cash paying students from Qatar or somewhere in the Middle East.
00:27:42 And they stopped coming, and the school had a hole in their budget they couldn't fill. 1.00
00:27:46 And my point is good.
00:27:47 The business model can't sustain this stuff if you're not teaching something that's valuable for the kids.
00:27:53 There's one more point that I want to make.
00:27:54 This is something that I've been harping on for a long time all of the woke stuff that people complain about for the past 15 years, it all has its genesis in college.
00:28:05 Yes.
00:28:06 Right? 0.81
00:28:06 There was a time where people were saying, look, these kids with their silly ideas, they're going to get out into the real world and they're going to get smacked with reality, and then we don't have to worry about it. 0.81
00:28:16 But the fact of the matter is, they got out into the real world and they changed the culture at so many different companies, so many different big Fortune 500 companies.
00:28:27 They got into the HR departments and they started firing people for the smallest missteps and hiring people that shared their worldview.
00:28:35 And they managed to seriously mess with the culture of the United States.
00:28:40 And getting this kind of stuff out of schools actually can have really significant and dramatic downstream effects.
00:28:47 You get a, you know, I don't know, five, six, seven years of graduating classes that are not indoctrinated with this kind of stuff.
00:28:56 Because the humanities departments, the stuff that they learn, it doesn't stay in the humanities departments.
00:29:00 It starts infecting the rest of the college.
00:29:03 It starts getting into even the hard sciences.
00:29:05 And that's where you hear people trying to say things like two plus two equals five and all kinds of crazy nonsense that everyone knows is not true.
00:29:14 But they have to say this kind of stuff because the entire culture at the school is making a demand of it.
00:29:21 We need to.
00:29:22 I always like to pull this stuff up because there's a lot of people that just literally do not believe it because they don't pay attention.
00:29:27 Popular Mechanics literally wrote this not even one year ago why some people think two plus two equals five and why they're right.
00:29:34 No, they're not.
00:29:35 They're not right.
00:29:36 This is a lie.
00:29:37 This is a cult.
00:29:38 If you think two plus two equals five, you're in a cult. 1.00
00:29:40 You are with dangerous, stupid people. 1.00
00:29:44 They are lying to you, okay? 1.00
00:29:46 Using an argument like they say, well, what if it's 2.5?
00:29:52 Three plus 2.3.
00:29:55 Well, those both round down to two, but when you add them together, you get 4.6, which rounds up to five.
00:30:00 Therefore, no, now you're arguing 2.3 plus 2.3.
00:30:05 We define those in absolute terms.
00:30:08 This is the insanity you get that they are teaching your kids when they go to these schools.
00:30:13 So good on the Trump admin for saying enough.
00:30:17 This, I got to tell you, they're not teaching in China.
00:30:20 A communist country is not telling their kids two plus two equals five.
00:30:20 Nope.
00:30:23 That's because this is a demoralization. 0.92
00:30:26 Effort and China already did that in the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution back in the 60s. 0.93
00:30:32 Well, the machine is trying to demoralize all of us because they want it's, you know, it's not just China, but it's largely China. 0.92
00:30:32 Yep. 0.92
00:30:42 The easiest way to explain what's going on China is an adversary.
00:30:45 They've already publicly stated the U.S. is in decline and not to resist that decline. 0.71
00:30:50 They are actively funding these things, pushing our politicians towards it.
00:30:54 They are manipulating our system.
00:30:56 Trump is resisting back.
00:30:58 Doesn't mean he's perfect.
00:31:00 We'll see where things go moving forward.
00:31:02 But that being said, let's jump to the important story in that case.
00:31:05 From Mediaite, the levy has been breached.
00:31:08 CNN data guru declares blue wave is coming over the wall.
00:31:13 The data we've got so far shows Democrats are expected to sweep.
00:31:17 It's not so good for Trump and the GOP.
00:31:20 The polls are all showing it.
00:31:21 Trump's economic approval rating in 2026 is at 37%.
00:31:25 In 2018, when Republicans lost the midterms, it was at 77%.
00:31:30 I think it's fair to say most people don't care about foreign policy and don't know much about the war with Iran, but its after effects are hitting people because gas is over four bucks and we're out in West Virginia and diesel is 650.
00:31:43 People can feel the heat.
00:31:45 The question is, what are the Republicans even doing about it or have they resigned to defeat?
00:31:53 I don't know what they're doing about it.
00:31:55 I do know that there was a.
00:31:58 I saw someone had tweeted, I retweeted it, about messaging and.
00:32:03 Not that messaging is going to fix anything, but the places that are borderline, the congresspeople that are borderline that could possibly win, they really do need to make sure that they have the messaging right.
00:32:19 But there's a lot of places where I don't know that there's anything that's going to happen that's going to fix anything unless gas prices drop by like.
00:32:28 I'll rise in defense of the grand old party.
00:32:30 I mean, look, and election cycles.
00:32:33 Gravity means that the apple falls from the tree down to the ground.
00:32:35 That's what happens.
00:32:37 It also means generally that the presidential party in the president in the White House loses in the midterm.
00:32:42 So gravity is gravity, and it usually happens.
00:32:44 The problem with that right now, first of all, whenever CNN is pushing something, and I admit on this one, it's economic numbers, it's not quite the same as some of the push polls they push.
00:32:53 But it really is going to come down to about 26 seats, House seats, and three or four Senate seats.
00:32:59 And there are fundamentals to those things that you have to figure out.
00:33:03 And one of them is who's got money, and the other one is who the candidates are.
00:33:07 So, if you look at these races one by one across places like down in Virginia, down in Norfolk, that I think it's Virginia 2, they started to do early voting.
00:33:16 And the report, I don't have this confirmed, I'm just going to tell you how you look at these things, is that the city, the urban votes, vote totals are lower than they expected.
00:33:26 In other words, there's not enthusiasm in that district for the Democrat, which is what they need to overcome the.
00:33:34 So, Republicans have the headwinds, and the Democrats seem to have something at their back.
00:33:39 But the problem is, it's only in 26 races, and the Republicans definitely have a lot more money.
00:33:44 And money can't buy you races, but it can get close in a lot of them, and it can change the dynamic.
00:33:49 Now, it's starting to feel late.
00:33:51 Things are starting to break.
00:33:52 But again, it's head to head.
00:33:53 And I think right now, even the Democrats that say it's going to be a wave are saying they end up three, four, five up in the House.
00:34:01 No one thinks they can get to 20.
00:34:03 And by the way, when Tallerico in Texas is on TV all weekend long begging for debates, if you've ever run a race, Or been a candidate, you know that you ask for debates when you're losing.
00:34:17 You desperately want any attention you can get.
00:34:20 You want to get out on the TVs.
00:34:22 And Tallarico is not winning.
00:34:24 If he was winning, he would not want to do a debate where Ken Paxton would say, Do you really believe X or Y, these crazy quotes that Tallarico's pastor said?
00:34:31 So, you know, the doom and gloom in places like Texas, mostly I believe it's because the Republicans that didn't want Paxton to win are weighing in.
00:34:41 So I think it's not great.
00:34:43 Gravity is gravity, but I think it's better than people realize.
00:34:46 And I just don't believe any of this doom and gloom.
00:34:48 You know, Tim, we're going to get around to it.
00:34:50 The Second Amendment, the voters that are energized, they call them low propensity voters for the Republicans, conservatives.
00:34:57 There's a bunch of them in categories that are fired up.
00:35:00 Now, will they get out to vote?
00:35:01 That's the hard part, but I think it's going to be done.
00:35:04 You know, voters are definitely very happy with what has been going on.
00:35:08 I'll say that.
00:35:09 I actually, I guess for us out here in West Virginia, particularly in our district, we don't really need to.
00:35:17 We're definitely going to, but Riley Moore is our guy.
00:35:19 He's going to win.
00:35:20 He's the best, one of the best.
00:35:22 You know, I got to give a shout out to Riley.
00:35:24 He does not waste his time on social media nonsense.
00:35:29 He's not doing the AOC style media nonsense.
00:35:33 He's actually fairly aggressive on a lot of the issues that we all care about here in West Virginia.
00:35:38 And so we're incredibly lucky because not everybody can say that.
00:35:42 I'm just saying that because it's like we're good here.
00:35:46 You know, this is West Virginia.
00:35:48 But there's places in Texas, there's places in Florida where we're seeing Democrats get an edge.
00:35:53 I'm going to go and say this.
00:35:54 I largely agree with you.
00:35:55 I think when it comes to the doom and gloom about whether or not Democrats are going to win and beat the Republicans, I think it would be silly not to point out that people are, Trump's lost a lot of people.
00:36:05 Like libertarians, that's a couple percentage points.
00:36:09 There's a lot of moderates, they do not like the war stuff.
00:36:12 And a lot of people have shifted heavily because of Israel's involvement, because of the start of the war, or I should say last year as well.
00:36:20 And I think these are all negative impacts.
00:36:22 The economy is typically the principal issue.
00:36:24 But that being said, we are in a new world. 1.00
00:36:27 And I think it's fair to say it's the economy, stupid. 0.99
00:36:30 We guys got to give a shout out to that old man, that cratchy old Democrat, but it's fine. 1.00
00:36:33 It's fine. 0.53
00:36:34 It's a good quote.
00:36:36 However, right now, everybody lives in a niche political sphere.
00:36:41 So there are people who don't even know gas is $4 because the only thing they see when they go online is Israel. 0.53
00:36:47 There are people that go online and see nothing but unarmed black men being shot.
00:36:52 The way they're voting is changing from the way it used to be. 0.94
00:36:56 Used to be primarily that people went to the gas station and said, okay, this is nuts.
00:37:00 But now that young people don't own cars, not that they're all voting anyway, but for young people, they're largely persuaded by their social media algorithm.
00:37:09 So Trump's strategy has been, and not just Trump, but Republicans, shift to culture war issues we can win on.
00:37:15 Like the trans debate, for instance, Title IX stuff.
00:37:17 This is why they're making these moves. 0.53
00:37:19 They want James Tellerico to have to answer for all the weird, insane things he said in the past several years, and they want to shift away from economics.
00:37:28 I'll give you guys the big secret.
00:37:32 If I make a video on YouTube talking economics, nobody wants to watch it.
00:37:37 That says something moving into November.
00:37:40 Again, we actually have had stories pulled up.
00:37:43 We've got some stories pulled up talking about housing.
00:37:46 And I talked earlier today, boomers on average have a net worth of $1.6 million.
00:37:52 It doesn't move the needle for the average person to talk about money this way.
00:37:57 People care about niche projects, interests, et cetera.
00:38:02 The Republicans are trying to recenter around that.
00:38:05 So I'm just saying this.
00:38:07 I do think Republicans are in a tight spot.
00:38:10 Historically, it makes a lot of sense.
00:38:11 But I also want to stress I'm not going to sit here and just trust CNN when they come out every single day saying, you can't lose, give up, you can't lose.
00:38:20 I mean, I'm sorry, you can't win, give up, you can't win.
00:38:23 Right.
00:38:24 Yeah.
00:38:25 I mean, because there's been some interesting things like the Tyler Rico race. 0.93
00:38:28 I think a lot of that can be attributed to Paxton, you know, no offense to Paxton, but kind of coming out the gates a little slow, right?
00:38:34 Like he hasn't fully kicked off, like, you know, a full blown campaign.
00:38:38 There's been some reporting on this.
00:38:40 And I think a lot of this isn't so much to do with him as more, as you pointed out, kind of the Senate Republicans weren't too happy about how that all went down.
00:38:47 Because there was some reporting that there's kind of this like Mexican standoff between the Trump admin and the Senate Republicans, like, okay, whose responsibility is it to fund the Paxton race?
00:38:55 So I think Texas probably comes back to the Republicans as the camp.
00:39:00 I mean, again, the hour is a little, you know, getting a little late here, but as that kind of kicks into full swing.
00:39:03 Because I'm getting Tallarico ads out here in Virginia.
00:39:06 And, you know, I haven't been a registered voter in Texas.
00:39:08 Five years, and I'm still getting hit for ads for Talarico here.
00:39:13 There's like a profile on you at these companies.
00:39:15 Yeah.
00:39:15 So the fact that he's dumping enough money to say anyone that has any vague link to Texas push some ads his way, I think, to your point, does kind of illustrate the situation he's in.
00:39:24 I think the interesting race is Michigan, especially because Michigan is in this weird situation where they have uniquely high gas prices for the region.
00:39:33 Michigan has pretty expensive fuel right now.
00:39:36 And then additionally, they're having these trade issues.
00:39:38 A lot of these voters in the Detroit area are having these trade issues with Canada.
00:39:41 This is what I've Again, I've seen some people that are reporting from how voters are feeling on the ground.
00:39:45 And a lot of them are like, I don't know.
00:39:47 We're kind of in the transit industry, all this traffic coming down through Canada.
00:39:51 They're not too happy about that.
00:39:52 So it's kind of funny how Mike Rogers is in this position where some of the things that the Republicans aren't even necessarily responsible for, it's a referendum on his party, even though, once again, the Canada situation, even the gas, the gas is uniquely high in Michigan due to some Whitmer policies.
00:40:09 But he's having to answer it because his party's.
00:40:12 Holding the executive.
00:40:13 I want to grab this super chat from S. Bud Bud, one of our members.
00:40:17 He says, Halt diesel exports, make diesel basically free till the midterms and ride the wave.
00:40:23 He's not wrong.
00:40:24 I mean, if Trump came out and said we're halting the exports, dropping the price significantly, if Trump did any kind of tax release or rebate in the short term with a promise of more after the fact, you can win the election just like that.
00:40:37 And Democrats, when Trump offered that dividend, they're like he's trying to buy the vote.
00:40:41 What do you think it is when Democrats offer free health care?
00:40:43 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:40:44 They're trying to buy the vote.
00:40:45 So if Trump's doing that, I'm like, sure, I'm not a fan of any of it, but don't act like y'all are innocent.
00:40:50 Well, you got to drop the diesel export ban in like October because it'll keep prices down for like a month.
00:40:55 But then, once all the diesel producers realize they've lost a quarter of their market, they're going to slow down production.
00:40:59 So, everyone's talking about if it's going to happen, it's going to happen in October.
00:41:04 But CNN showing you the economic numbers and how bad it is.
00:41:08 What they're not showing you is New Hampshire is competitive, and it shouldn't be.
00:41:12 The Republicans should not be competitive.
00:41:13 Michigan is competitive because why?
00:41:15 Because it shouldn't be.
00:41:16 It's a blue state now. 1.00
00:41:18 It's competitive because that guy's a lunatic. 1.00
00:41:20 The Muslim guy's a lunatic. 1.00
00:41:23 Susan Collins is winning up in Maine. 1.00
00:41:26 I don't really like her. 0.88
00:41:27 She's not conservative, whatever, but she's winning.
00:41:29 So you look around, you say, hold on a second.
00:41:31 As the one place where it's tough is where they pulled a Biden.
00:41:35 In North Carolina, they ran a white guy and pretended that Cooper, who was a former governor, is a good old guy.
00:41:40 You know, he's like, oh, you know, Scranton Joe, what a good guy.
00:41:43 When he's going to vote for these lunatic leftists, and what Lee's had, the Republicans had a hard time getting his name ID up to compete.
00:41:50 And it's still close. 0.51
00:41:51 So the point is, the idea that, especially at the Senate, that this is, Related to that, what CNN's pushing is nonsense.
00:41:58 Now you go down to the house and it's hand to hand combat.
00:42:02 But you made the great point Riley Moore is safe and so are 406 seats.
00:42:08 Totally safe.
00:42:09 You're never going to lose these seats.
00:42:11 You can pretend you're going to.
00:42:12 It's 25 or so.
00:42:14 And now it's who can go hand to hand.
00:42:16 And here's what I'd say Tim, you brought this up the social issues.
00:42:20 Second Amendment voters, pro life voters, religious people that go to church every Sunday, people that believe that, look, people that watch Fox News, you can say what you want and I have.
00:42:30 I'm not a fan in lots of ways, but they are conditioning old people that are watching all the time that this is, you know, that the war is good and that, you know, healthcare is protected and you're going to be okay.
00:42:43 That's what they're telling them, whether it's true or not. 0.65
00:42:46 And that means that they're protecting that flank of the Republican coalition for voting.
00:42:49 Well, I think this is what a lot of people miss too is, you know, and this is coming from a Zoomer, you know, a right winger who has a lot of, you know, criticisms of the Republican Party. 0.63
00:42:59 Boomers, that's the bread and butter, you know, like we can sit on Twitter and antagonize boomers all day long.
00:43:03 And even if, You know, every single accusation is true or whatever. 0.89
00:43:07 That's besides the point.
00:43:08 That is the secret sauce for not just the Republican Party, but the Democrat Party too. 0.73
00:43:11 Like, boomers, largest generation, vote at exceptionally high rates, especially because now they're elderly.
00:43:17 So, the Republicans, as long as they nail the messaging on Fox News, they're in the race. 0.69
00:43:20 A lot of people don't want to hear that.
00:43:21 A lot of people are like, well, you know, we should go punish the Republicans at the ballot box.
00:43:27 Twitter is like kind of a ghetto in many ways.
00:43:28 Like, there's like 30,000 people that are using it on a daily basis. 0.99
00:43:32 You know, the boomers are ultimately going to be the ones that decide the election. 0.62
00:43:35 And yeah, Fox News, you go on Fox News. 0.98
00:43:38 You know, the Iran wars, you know, this had to happen. 0.99
00:43:40 It's the greatest thing since sliced bread. 0.85
00:43:42 That's going to resonate with a lot of the base.
00:43:44 So, just from purely like a political exercise, while it is certainly doom and gloom for younger people, certainly doom and gloom online, the Republicans, they can still kind of go to their fastball on this kind of thing.
00:43:56 And they're going to have probably better chance than we would expect, you know, if you're purely consuming online political content.
00:44:03 We have another rumble rant from S. Bud Buddy says Trump issues national emergency on behalf of the American people and halts diesel exports by a high percentage.
00:44:11 To supplement us with subsidized fuel.
00:44:15 Yeah, winning strategy.
00:44:17 Absolutely.
00:44:17 I think that's a winning strategy.
00:44:19 The question is, would he actually do it?
00:44:22 But before we get into the next segment, I'm going to say a couple of things.
00:44:22 They've talked about it.
00:44:29 I think periodically we've had Super Chats and Rumble rants come in that were relevant to the conversation.
00:44:35 We've always held them off for any of the show.
00:44:37 I'm going to try and grab some of those for the real conversation.
00:44:40 That seems to be the obvious thing we've never done in six years of doing this show.
00:44:44 So, if you guys are, because we'll go to the super chat portion, I'll be like, I can't remember what this is a reference to.
00:44:49 It's like, why are we going back?
00:44:50 So, I'll try and grab your chats and rants towards the end of each segment so that you guys can add to that conversation.
00:44:56 We'll carry on and then we'll move on.
00:44:57 I think that makes a lot more sense.
00:44:59 And the other thing I just want to say, real quick, is very excited.
00:45:02 You know, Tim Cast IRL being featured on the front page of YouTube right now in the live marquee.
00:45:06 Ed, your big old face is just right there.
00:45:09 But we're outwatched by a cartoon peanut opening gun packs in CS2.
00:45:09 It's beautiful.
00:45:14 All right, well.
00:45:15 But you know, hey.
00:45:16 That's defensible.
00:45:17 I mean, that's.
00:45:17 You know, I like.
00:45:18 Can we do that too?
00:45:19 Maybe we could start doing that.
00:45:20 It's show business.
00:45:21 That's right.
00:45:22 Can we add, how do you do that?
00:45:24 We'll add an animated.
00:45:24 Peanut to the show.
00:45:26 And utilize it.
00:45:26 And be like, we got it.
00:45:28 And no, I think it's more so the gambling.
00:45:30 We need a cashew.
00:45:31 Maybe we can't be too on the nose.
00:45:33 You know what?
00:45:33 What we got to do is we got to have keynote numbers going on behind all of us as we're talking.
00:45:33 I figured it out.
00:45:38 Like a wheel.
00:45:39 Pull the numbers out.
00:45:40 It's not a bad idea.
00:45:41 And then people are like, I picked my numbers, and then you see if you win because everything's becoming sports gambling, which brings us to our next story.
00:45:48 We got this from Fox News.
00:45:49 Trevor Lawrence fantasy owners are beside themselves after an inexplicable decision.
00:45:55 In fourth quarter blowout, my Instagram was blowing up over Trevor Lawrence taking a knee at one yard with nine minutes left in the game.
00:46:06 I'm not a football guy.
00:46:08 And I've got people being like, Did you see this?
00:46:10 They're freaking out.
00:46:11 I've got friends who don't know news at all asking me if I saw this story.
00:46:15 We're going to talk about it.
00:46:17 Because what they're saying is this dude took the knee intentionally so that he could control the outcome for the purpose of sports betting because it's all rigged.
00:46:27 I've seen videos on Instagram where they're like, this guy should be criminally investigated and prosecuted.
00:46:32 There's rumors that Fanatics is issuing refunds over certain wagers.
00:46:36 Let me show you this video.
00:46:38 This is Brick Center.
00:46:40 What is Trevor Lawrence doing?
00:46:43 This has to be gambling.
00:46:45 Watch this clip.
00:46:46 Run, pass, protection, all of it has been able to play a pretty dominant game against this group.
00:46:53 Design run for Lawrence.
00:46:58 Lawrence, broken tackles.
00:46:59 Eight minutes in.
00:47:03 48 seconds.
00:47:04 Listen to the commentators.
00:47:05 Eight minutes.
00:47:07 Just get yourself a touchdown, Spiro.
00:47:12 We're not inside.
00:47:12 Come on.
00:47:14 What are you doing?
00:47:15 Maybe a little too much.
00:47:16 Maybe a little too much.
00:47:18 He wasn't supposed to.
00:47:19 That's what people are saying.
00:47:20 I think that's Milton Williams had a chance at him.
00:47:24 Packish.
00:47:25 This is nuts.
00:47:25 So look at this.
00:47:26 Okay?
00:47:27 They even say, how did he get out of this?
00:47:30 He breaks through, is able to run forward.
00:47:34 And then takes a knee.
00:47:37 So, of course, his response was I was trying to run out the clock.
00:47:40 Tons of people were like, with nine minutes left, what clock are you running out?
00:47:45 I've seen a bunch of wild theories.
00:47:47 One, I've seen a lot of people saying that he's got a direct stake in the game and taking this because if he bet himself, he bet against himself scoring a touchdown, presuming he wouldn't score one, getting the opportunity to get one, he's like, uh oh.
00:48:01 Other conspiracy theories are that they're all in on it and the bigwigs of the game said.
00:48:06 You're not going to score, don't score.
00:48:08 And when he made it, when he managed to break through, which he wasn't supposed to do, he's like, uh oh, I'm going to get in trouble.
00:48:14 But here's where it gets crazy this article Trevor Lawrence jokes about fantasy football as the reason for ignoring touchdown at the one yard line.
00:48:22 Jokes about it?
00:48:23 He literally said, I'm looking out for the fantasy fans.
00:48:26 And then they're like, ah, he's joking.
00:48:28 Or was he serious and just oblivious?
00:48:31 Like, I didn't know that was a crime.
00:48:33 It's really annoying because we're going to get the truth on this in 20 years on a podcast.
00:48:37 Trevor Lawrence does the rounds, and it'll be like, oh, that's so funny.
00:48:40 I remember that vaguely.
00:48:41 Yeah, I think there's like three possibilities of what happened here.
00:48:45 The first is he's being honest, he was just trying to chew the clock up.
00:48:50 I mean, you could take another two minutes off maybe with three extra downs.
00:48:54 Second possibility is yeah, he's in on it.
00:48:57 Like if he had a rushing touchdown, it would have cost him a bunch of money or something like that.
00:49:01 The third, which I find to be actually the most compelling explanation, I saw a few people propose this, is that the halfback has some sort of clause in his contract where he gets extra money based off of how many rushing touchdowns he gets that year.
00:49:13 And so he must be buddies with the halfback and they're trying to get him.
00:49:16 This has happened before.
00:49:17 Some people pointed out a few examples of.
00:49:20 I think on the Jaguar, I think it was Maurice Jones Drew had a similar clause where if he got so many rushing touchdowns by a certain week in the year, he would get a huge paycheck.
00:49:28 And so some people speculate hey, this gives us, it's kind of a combination.
00:49:32 It gives us an opportunity to burn more time off for dominating this game.
00:49:36 And then additionally, it can give our halfback an extra rushing touchdown because it's on the one yard line.
00:49:41 That to me kind of seems like the most compelling explanation. 0.97
00:49:44 Because if it's this, I mean, surely he's not stupid enough to, like, if they're, they'll figure out if there's somebody cashing out and they have a connection to him. 0.97
00:49:52 They'll sniff that out right away. 0.99
00:49:54 Maybe he is.
00:49:54 Maybe it's the CTE.
00:49:55 I don't know.
00:49:56 I mean, look, they're playing the Patriots.
00:49:56 Yeah.
00:49:59 The Patriots definitely would have run the ball, you know, run the score up as much as they could.
00:50:04 I don't have particularly strong feelings as to why he would do this.
00:50:08 I mean, gambling.
00:50:09 Well, yeah.
00:50:10 I mean, possibly.
00:50:12 But you, I mean, you do see weird things happen like that in football games.
00:50:15 But I mean, I don't.
00:50:17 You know what I'm going to do?
00:50:18 I'm going to live stream myself walking to the White House press briefing.
00:50:23 And I'm going to be like, I'm going, I'm going there.
00:50:26 And then, because there's a wager for, there's a contract bet for me, a contract, whatever, on CalShee.
00:50:31 Tim Poole will go to a White House press briefing.
00:50:33 And we're actively trying to go.
00:50:35 They did invite us again, so we'll see.
00:50:37 But what I should do, I'll live stream myself walking.
00:50:39 I'll be like, all right, everybody, I am walking there.
00:50:41 And then right when I get the door, I'm going to take a knee.
00:50:44 Yeah.
00:50:44 Bad idea.
00:50:44 Yeah.
00:50:45 Oh, cross the line, Tim.
00:50:47 And then.
00:50:48 I think your third one is the most plausible.
00:50:50 I think it's something like that, but it still brings us to the same spot, which is.
00:50:54 There's so much money in these games now, in sports and sports gambling and in the conduct.
00:50:58 As you say, if it was the contract, it sounds right, you know, that you've got all these, it's just changing the way things are operating.
00:51:05 And to think that these guys are going to stay sort of pure of heart is insane.
00:51:12 And I mentioned off air that I met in my time in DOJ with this guy, Jon Tay Porter, who has admitted that he had a gambling problem in the NBA.
00:51:20 He talked about it publicly.
00:51:21 It's very compelling.
00:51:22 An addict.
00:51:23 He's gone, goes to Gambling Anonymous and all, and has, Stopped and all this kind of stuff.
00:51:29 But when you hear him talk about the fact that every aspect of the NBA is being gambled on, you know, how many points you get in a quarter, how many rebounds, how many minutes you play, all these things, to think that it's not going to be manipulated by people who want to make money is just naive.
00:51:46 I mean, it's not just the NBA, though.
00:51:47 Right, right, right.
00:51:48 The NBA is just where it's most egregious.
00:51:50 Because if you ever look up the Malik Beasley throwing games tape, I mean, it's the most unbelievable.
00:51:54 He doesn't even try to disguise it or hide it.
00:51:56 And he got indicted.
00:51:57 I don't think he got indicted, but he got investigated.
00:51:59 I think it might be pending.
00:52:01 But there's like a sizzle reel of like 10 minutes of Malik Beasley just like throwing the ball out of bounds, like slipping and throws it behind him and goes in the goal.
00:52:08 Like it's absolutely insane.
00:52:10 But additionally, even if it's not gambling related, there's still with the contract stuff that just completely erodes the integrity of the game.
00:52:17 Because I don't know if you remember, there was this spree where Russell Westbrook, I think he averaged a triple double over the season for non basketball viewers.
00:52:23 It's you get over 10 points, over 10 rebounds, over 10 assists.
00:52:26 You know, you could do steals or something that's unlikely.
00:52:28 And Like he's a point guard, so they don't get rebounds, right?
00:52:31 He's supposed to be taking the ball before he's usually the shortest player on the floor.
00:52:34 But if the other team shot a three pointer, the big men would run down the court, so then they'd be clear, wide open for Russell Westbrook to go grab a rebound.
00:52:43 And people were like, does he really just care about his stats that much where he needs to get a triple double every game?
00:52:48 Potentially, it could be a pride thing.
00:52:49 But what was more likely was that, again, if he got in a certain, for every triple double he got, he probably got some sort of kickback from the Oklahoma City Thunder.
00:52:56 And therefore, he was directly incentivized and his teammates were directly incentivized to allow him to collect rebounds.
00:53:03 Then all of a sudden, it starts tampering with statistics, records, et cetera.
00:53:07 It just erodes the integrity of the game.
00:53:08 So it's like, even if it's not something as illegal as sports gambling, these convoluted contracts, the amount of money in the game, it's still.
00:53:14 Tampers the integrity of the game.
00:53:15 Here's what I never got.
00:53:16 You can bet on the color of the Gatorade, but there are probably hundreds of people who know what the color of the Gatorade is.
00:53:22 How are people betting on that?
00:53:22 So, how is that?
00:53:24 It's a sucker's bet. 0.97
00:53:25 Right. 0.92
00:53:25 Well, it's like, I guess as soon as, you know, if you go, if you're like watching the game like three or four hours before, if you see a spike, you go and bet on that. 0.92
00:53:32 That's probably your best option.
00:53:33 There's some lady who works in an accounting department or a delivery company who's like, they just ordered like 500 gallons of, you know, like Arctic Frost or whatever.
00:53:43 And she's like, well, I know what the color of the Gatorade is going to be.
00:53:46 Well, that's why a lot of the college teams started like throwing people off and they would mix two flavors together.
00:53:50 I don't know, really?
00:53:51 Green or brown or whatever.
00:53:53 But if I can say, guys, I move it a little bit and I'll sound like a scourge, I guess, but the gambling's out of control.
00:53:59 And it's targeted at the kids, and kids are in the NBA or now in the NCAA football, you know, the top programs, the kids are making a million dollars and they're not even the stars.
00:53:59 Oh, totally.
00:54:11 And so they're gambling all the time.
00:54:13 And what I hate about it the most is they're using the technology, the neuroscience, To change your brain to make these kids do it.
00:54:21 And, you know, the idea of this not being something that we're all screaming about is crazy to me.
00:54:28 We're destroying generations of kids with this, allowing this stuff to go on.
00:54:33 I know it's a genie back in the bottle, but it's really, really bad.
00:54:39 And this is what's being annoying is like being a proper conservative, et cetera.
00:54:44 I'm still holding the line on all these issues that the cat's kind of out of the back. 0.99
00:54:47 Like, I'm still against gay marriage. 1.00
00:54:50 That train left the station 10 years ago. 0.95
00:54:54 To be a Republican nominee of the B Pro Game.
00:54:55 But I'm still holding on to lines because I'm like, dude, once you start giving an inch here, they'll take a mile.
00:55:00 This has certainly been the case with gambling.
00:55:02 They're saying, oh, what?
00:55:03 It's just putting a bet on your phone.
00:55:04 What's the big deal?
00:55:05 Next thing you know, you're watching Little League and there's betting markets.
00:55:09 This is insane.
00:55:10 It's over.
00:55:11 The future of the economy is we're moving.
00:55:14 So this is my prediction.
00:55:17 We had a labor economy.
00:55:20 Then the labor economy evolved in a variety of ways.
00:55:25 We brought in beasts of burden, and now you had an animal husbandry economy.
00:55:29 Could you bring the mules or the horses?
00:55:31 Could you buy them?
00:55:32 But it was still a labor economy.
00:55:33 It was still the work you were doing, but it was hated.
00:55:35 Industry came about, and we still had a labor economy.
00:55:38 Then we start offshoring a lot of this labor, and we get a service sector economy.
00:55:41 Now it's can I provide a service to you?
00:55:43 Not even a thing.
00:55:45 Things started to change dramatically with the internet when we got the information economy.
00:55:49 This is once the internet became ubiquitous.
00:55:52 Now, there was tons of money to be made in delivering news and information through websites.
00:55:56 People wanted this.
00:55:57 Advertisers were selling through it.
00:55:59 Information was access to product knowledge.
00:56:01 And the saying goes for sales, a million years, right?
00:56:06 You can have the best product in the world.
00:56:07 And if no one knows about it, you don't got a product at all.
00:56:11 Now we are in the attention economy.
00:56:13 Information is ubiquitous.
00:56:16 No one needs you to tell them the news.
00:56:18 Okay?
00:56:19 The moment Donald Trump does a backflip, Everyone's already found out about it.
00:56:24 So the question is how long can I keep your attention?
00:56:28 This is resulting in videos where people are screaming at the top of their lungs at each other.
00:56:32 But what happens after an attention economy?
00:56:37 The prediction economy.
00:56:39 Economics based on being able to foretell events because you're smart, smarter or more insightful.
00:56:45 So we get the I can provide you with information economy.
00:56:49 Please just look at me.
00:56:50 I've got nothing left.
00:56:51 And then I can see things before you do.
00:56:54 Now, for a lot of that's always existed to a small degree.
00:56:57 But stock trading was not for the retail investor, it didn't exist until I think it was like the Jobs Act or something with Obama, only in the past like 15 or so years.
00:57:05 You had to be rich or an institution to invest.
00:57:10 I think where we're going now, and the reason why Calci, Poly Market, sports betting, fantasy, the reason why all that's blowing up, our economy is going in a direction based on this.
00:57:20 This is the future, okay?
00:57:21 With AI, with everything.
00:57:23 You don't need jobs.
00:57:24 UBI won't work.
00:57:25 The economy is going to be based on if you are better at predicting outcomes than other people.
00:57:30 So, what do we get? 1.00
00:57:32 Gambling is stupid. 1.00
00:57:33 Gambling is like the stupidest, lowest tier of this because playing blackjack, you can count cards if you're looking at an actual shoe and improve your odds to 50.5%. 1.00
00:57:44 But they'll kick you out for that. 0.99
00:57:46 But if you're doing sports betting, there are people, people that I know who are doing million bucks a month sports betting, insane numbers.
00:57:55 And I'm going to tell you right now, I've already brought this up.
00:57:57 The average salary of a millionaire is $165K per year.
00:58:01 I know people that have, maybe they're not doing like a million every single month because it depends on when sporting are in.
00:58:08 But there are people that are printing money with sports betting.
00:58:13 You guys ever see the movie Casino?
00:58:15 One of the best movies ever made, you gotta watch it.
00:58:18 Robert De Niro, back before he went nuts.
00:58:22 And his character is based on a true story.
00:58:25 He's like, he used to make tons of money for the mafia, for the mob, by sports betting.
00:58:29 It'd be really simple.
00:58:30 He'd go and meet with friends and family and say, Tell me about the players, tell me about the jockeys, what's going on.
00:58:35 And they'd be like, Ah, yeah, he's been feeling sick this morning.
00:58:38 Okay, you go bet against them, and he'd print money.
00:58:41 This is what we're starting to see now.
00:58:43 Do you have access to information, and can you predict more?
00:58:46 So, it's one thing to say gambling is degenerate.
00:58:48 Yeah, I get it, but you're not stopping it because the genie's out of the bottle, the cat's out of the bag.
00:58:52 You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
00:58:53 I'll use every analogy we have in the world for this one.
00:58:56 You are going to see the people who are making the most money are the people who can look at the players and look at the numbers and say, I know who's going to win tomorrow.
00:59:06 And they're going to do crazy parlays and they're going to make crazy money.
00:59:10 This is what we're seeing, and we're already seeing it right now.
00:59:12 Like I mentioned that Peanut live stream, the cartoon Peanut.
00:59:16 Burnt Peanut.
00:59:17 Burnt Peanut.
00:59:18 Apparently, it's just cracking packs in CS2.
00:59:21 People just want to watch that.
00:59:23 So, you've already got this massive explosion.
00:59:26 You've got like Vegas Matt.
00:59:28 Have you guys seen Vegas Matt?
00:59:30 Dude plays slots and prints money.
00:59:32 You got Lady Luck plays slots and prints money.
00:59:36 You can lose the gambling, but people want to watch it.
00:59:39 They want to play it.
00:59:41 People want to be involved in it.
00:59:43 We can call it bad all day and night.
00:59:45 Don't get me wrong.
00:59:46 I completely agree.
00:59:48 But this is where the economy is shaping up to go.
00:59:50 Yeah.
00:59:50 Well, I mean, there's like multiple things here.
00:59:52 I mean, because we have, you know, deaths of misery, right?
00:59:54 You know, people that, you know, start consuming drugs or whatever.
00:59:58 But now you're seeing like consumption of misery, right?
01:00:00 Like, I think a lot of what's going on here is these are people that, and primarily young men who don't view themselves as having a future in the country or having a future in general.
01:00:10 And so they just say, well, okay, I could do 50 years at a company.
01:00:14 You know, you're not even guaranteed a good pension anymore.
01:00:16 Or I can just get rich now because I want to be rich now because the only time I'm going to be able to enjoy this wealth is while I'm young.
01:00:22 And so they'd start, you know, buying into these effectively get rich quick schemes.
01:00:26 There's so many problems with sports betting we could get into.
01:00:28 I think another missing piece here, so I think, first of all, it's primarily affecting young men. 0.81
01:00:32 Secondarily, young men were primed for this because here's like a little zoomer inside baseball.
01:00:37 Is from like 12 years old when you're playing video games, and I like video games, I'm a proud gamer, but you're primed for gambling, especially if you're playing games like Fortnite or games like I love FIFA growing up.
01:00:50 And on FIFA, you have Ultimate Team.
01:00:51 What do you do in Ultimate Team?
01:00:52 You pay money and you open a pack, and then you have a 5% chance of getting a good player.
01:00:57 And it kind of already starts getting this mentality of gambling, of You know, putting money in.
01:01:04 You know, the odds are stacked against you, but you know there's a chance you get a really good player.
01:01:08 So it's already kind of primed this.
01:01:09 I don't know if risk tolerance is the proper word to use here, but it's tampered with people's psychology when it comes to risk and involving putting money on the line.
01:01:18 And so it basically primed an entire generation.
01:01:20 My generation, same thing with Fortnite, same thing with Call of Duty Warzone.
01:01:23 It primed us for betting markets, it primed us for sports gambling.
01:01:28 I'm probably going to lose money, but when I do make money, I'm going to make it all back.
01:01:31 Same thing with Pokemon and Magic the Gathering cards.
01:01:34 Like Tim was saying, burnt peanuts opening packs of.
01:01:37 You know, cards.
01:01:37 Yeah.
01:01:38 I think he's pulling guns in CS2.
01:01:40 Well, yeah.
01:01:41 I don't know.
01:01:41 I don't know exactly what I think.
01:01:42 These video games like FIFA, like Fortnite, were so designed for mass consumption that it primed people from the online aspect.
01:01:48 Because growing up, I don't really remember people doing pack openings or kids on the playground, but you can do that in your living room as long as you had your parents' credit card.
01:01:55 The point right now is I'll phrase it like this I have seen probably 7,000 great musicians on Instagram.
01:02:05 And I'm going to tell you guys.
01:02:08 I don't know if the issue is just that humans aren't real.
01:02:10 Like, they're all NPCs.
01:02:12 And, you know, like, what was it you said that the Seventh day Adventists were right?
01:02:16 There's only like.
01:02:16 Who was witness?
01:02:17 There's like on 24,000 and sold them.
01:02:19 Like, they might have been cooking with that.
01:02:20 Well, go on Instagram and you're like, Jim, many times I have seen the video where a person walks in the room and in the corner of the room, they see the woman in the white dress, the horror twisted in the corner, and then it points and they look down, there's a spider, and then they're both in the corner of the room.
01:02:34 I have seen that video 7,000 times.
01:02:39 I want these people criminally charged for being boring, but I started to think to myself, maybe they just can't think.
01:02:47 Like, maybe the extent of their thought process is I can only imitate what I see other people do.
01:02:52 My point is, people are bored.
01:02:55 I've seen a million videos, okay, in all seriousness, maybe it's 375, where it's some young Gen Z woman playing a folk song and a guitar, and then there's texts being like, you're so lucky your algorithm stumbled upon this independent artist.
01:03:09 And I'm like, yeah.
01:03:10 You and 7,000 other identical, generic, boring people. 0.96
01:03:14 Block, block, go away.
01:03:16 My point is this people are bored and have nothing to do.
01:03:19 Everybody can sing, anybody can AI generate good music.
01:03:23 No one needs to do much of anything.
01:03:27 While we have political complaints, the rise of woke and political complaints is largely attached to there's nothing else to do.
01:03:35 We don't have to tend the fields anymore or the chickens or the cows.
01:03:39 People who are poor in the United States are obese.
01:03:42 So, from this, People are listless, purposeless, and bored, and they're seeking out a dopamine hit.
01:03:50 What's really bad about it is if I go out into my skate park and I land a Nolly hard flip, I get a dopamine hit.
01:03:58 It feels good.
01:03:58 I did that trick.
01:03:59 I'm a 40 year old man.
01:04:00 I still got it.
01:04:02 For young people, they artificially trigger a dopamine hit when they win at gambling, something they cannot control.
01:04:10 And that's the problem there's nothing left for people to do that makes them feel like they're succeeding except for random chance.
01:04:18 I'd go one step further in this, take it one step further.
01:04:21 And I think it's great that the president has been fighting with fake news and saying how fake news is bad.
01:04:26 But I'm past the point where I believe that the TV can brainwash people as well as big tech does with all these tools.
01:04:34 Because you can say that they conditioned you with the FIFA game.
01:04:37 By now, they've got neuroscientists on their team and they're figuring out how to hook you.
01:04:42 And they're figuring out how to hook your siblings and your kids and everybody else.
01:04:48 And that's the real enemy here.
01:04:50 The real enemy to me is the tech monsters that are using neuroscience to take over our lives, all of us.
01:04:58 And I don't disagree, Tim, that that's where we are.
01:05:00 You can't put the genie back in the bottle.
01:05:01 But to not describe it that way is to me, you know, again, NBC News isn't programming us, or CNN even.
01:05:10 It's Facebook and it's all the big tech giants.
01:05:15 And I think it's much scarier than people realize.
01:05:19 Well, I completely agree.
01:05:21 I mean, like, if Thomas Edison were alive today, he'd be working for some advertising firm, like, you know, digging through people's data to determine, you know, how to best target.
01:05:29 You know, a Mr. Beast, you know, candy bar ad or something.
01:05:33 Like, that's quite literally the brightest minds in the United States, barring some who do find success, are like pouring into basically advertising agencies.
01:05:41 Like, it is really disturbing stuff.
01:05:44 And yeah, to your point, I think people overrate the impact of liberal universities, of mainstream media.
01:05:51 I think a lot of what's going on is like social contagions who spread their pathogens through social media.
01:05:57 And I'm not an advocate, I think a social media ban actually makes things worse, but it is to indicate.
01:06:02 That young people are developing these ideas independently of like, you know, mainstream messaging.
01:06:09 I think these are actually developing like pretty organically.
01:06:12 Like, you're using with like transgender people.
01:06:13 A lot of that stuff, a lot of the stuff they're into, a lot of that culture is developed independently and it is disseminated through social media.
01:06:20 But I don't think that is like some of it certainly is top down, but like they enter these universities to the left of the universities.
01:06:26 Like, that is often the case.
01:06:27 And then they maybe pull the university to the left, but they're like coming in from high school like this.
01:06:31 We're not changing this. 0.90
01:06:34 If you want change, you have to influence children, not Gen Z. Gen Z are adults. 0.75
01:06:40 You're not going to go to someone who's in their mid 20s and say, let's rearrange your entire life. 0.93
01:06:43 It's not happening.
01:06:44 The habits that were built, like you described, came from when y'all were 12 years old.
01:06:48 Cracking packs, boosters, playing Overwatch, and desperately trying to get that skin.
01:06:54 And then you can show it off.
01:06:55 You can play the game with the rare pack pole or the Pokemon card.
01:07:00 So these people are now adults, and you're not putting that out.
01:07:03 You can go to younger kids.
01:07:05 And say we're putting a stop to this now so that when they grow up, they don't have these habits, but it's all happening.
01:07:09 Yeah.
01:07:10 I wanna read this Rumble rant from John Waters.
01:07:12 He says, I watch Vegas, Matt.
01:07:14 It's actually four guys talking and having fun.
01:07:16 He shows his session win or lose.
01:07:18 I like watching because it's an escape from all the noise, just four guys joking and having fun.
01:07:23 I get it, completely agree.
01:07:25 And that's what our plan with the show Poker with the Boys was supposed to be.
01:07:28 We wanted to do a podcast that was more just like dudes goofing off and telling jokes.
01:07:33 Unfortunately, it's illegal in every single state to do this unless we move to Texas.
01:07:36 So it's like, We never got around to it, though we bought all the stuff.
01:07:39 The point is not gambling.
01:07:43 The point was an escape.
01:07:45 And that's something that I was pointing out before last week.
01:07:49 The internet used to be the escape.
01:07:50 It's not anymore.
01:07:51 The internet is now the prison.
01:07:52 The internet is now real life.
01:07:54 When I was younger, before we had ubiquitous smartphones, I'd go out into the world and that was the world you interacted with.
01:08:00 I mean, old people recognize, like, remember this, young people didn't live it.
01:08:05 So I'd go to work. 0.69
01:08:06 That's work.
01:08:07 News would be on, people would talk about stuff, had to refill the mangoes in the Jamba Juice fridge.
01:08:07 Ugh.
01:08:14 I worked at a Jamba Juice.
01:08:15 And I'd go back home and I'd have a computer and I could go in a room by myself and send the computer and just shut everything down.
01:08:23 And I'd learn about things and I'd be interested in things.
01:08:25 Today, the internet is the prison.
01:08:27 It is life.
01:08:29 And so people are turning it off and being like, I want something else.
01:08:33 Yo, I've watched, it blew my mind, walking in a room full of people sitting on couches and they're watching Vegas Matt two hour slot machine.
01:08:43 Just literally, like, press a button, the slot comes down.
01:08:45 Press a button, the slot comes down.
01:08:45 Yeah.
01:08:46 And they're like, I just want it all to shut up.
01:08:51 I get it.
01:08:52 Well, I think it's like virtually impossible to find like a normie oracle.
01:08:56 This person that is completely untouched by the internet now because it's like it really is all encompassing.
01:09:00 And like my grandmother knows what looks maxing is.
01:09:02 I mean, like it is like beyond, you know, it is beyond like this is something that like was circulating on 4chan 10 years ago and now is like in the American zeitgeist.
01:09:10 CNN, New York Times are all doing front, you know, big hits on it and whatnot.
01:09:10 Everyone's aware of it.
01:09:14 Like we are beyond the point where, you know, we can like revert back and just go back.
01:09:19 You do get these rare moments where the internet actually does, and I'm talking about like the post COVID era, it does offer up something that is probably healthy for people.
01:09:27 I think the key is like trying to amplify that.
01:09:28 Like, a good example was like in the aftermath of COVID and the lockdowns, chess had this moment where chess, everyone's into chess.
01:09:36 Like, all my friends are playing chess.
01:09:37 We were, you know, intaking chess streamers and we were watching chess tournaments and whatever.
01:09:42 Nerds.
01:09:43 Yeah, it's like nerds.
01:09:44 But it's funny because it's like you had people from all sorts of walks of life like getting into chess.
01:09:47 And what was funny is it kind of died off.
01:09:50 And I wonder if part of the reason it died off was because these companies were finding it impossible to monetize it.
01:09:54 Like, the main house in chess was chess.com.
01:09:58 And chess.com is ran by like these chess purist ideologues.
01:10:01 Maybe that's not a, you know, I'm sure chess people will get mad at that.
01:10:04 But like, from my perspective, these are people that weren't actually seeking to just like totally monetize their basically stranglehold on the market.
01:10:12 And it was this rare moment where I'm like, this is actually something nice that the internet has offered up and provided.
01:10:16 I think the key would be like, you kind of have to socially engineer your way out of this is like amplify those more positive analog experiences and pretty much legislate out of existence these more like cancerous elements of the internet, like the gambling and all.
01:10:28 But, but guys, let's play it out then.
01:10:30 Let's play out what the crisis to come is.
01:10:31 And, and this is way too glib, but you know, the industrial revolution happens and everybody comes in off the farms.
01:10:37 And according to the, you know, accounts, they were drunk.
01:10:40 The men were go to work in a, in a factory and they get drunk at night.
01:10:43 It's where gin got popular in London.
01:10:44 They were all blotto, right?
01:10:46 And then you go forward in time and you see every time, you know, if you're right, Tim, that we're going towards this thing where it's going to be the attention economy, what do we end up with?
01:10:54 Prediction.
01:10:55 Prediction economy.
01:10:55 Sorry.
01:10:56 What, what do we end up with in terms of how people are living?
01:10:59 Because you're not going back on the farm.
01:11:01 I agree with you.
01:11:02 There's nothing to do.
01:11:03 I agree with you relatively.
01:11:05 And all the relationships have changed, right?
01:11:07 There's not the same situation where you lived within eight blocks of all the people that you might possibly marry in 1915, right?
01:11:14 So, what are we headed towards?
01:11:16 Think about it this way when AI can do everything and it already knows what is, what value do humans have?
01:11:25 Conceptualization.
01:11:27 So, if any person can go on AI and get a picture generated, a video game made, a movie made, Can answer any question, then humans have no value for each other.
01:11:36 The economy makes no sense.
01:11:38 I'm not going to go to you and say, Can you do work for me?
01:11:40 The robot can do it by itself.
01:11:42 The robot can answer all the questions.
01:11:43 Heck, optimist bots are going to come and clean my gutters.
01:11:46 It costs me almost nothing.
01:11:48 What value does another person have?
01:11:50 I can provide information not yet available.
01:11:53 So the AI can answer the questions now, but it sucks at predictions.
01:11:57 I can make a good prediction.
01:11:58 So we're going to see people who tend to be right based on what's going to happen.
01:12:03 Now, this is already true, obviously.
01:12:05 If you are good at predicting the future, you're going to get rich.
01:12:08 It will just be substantially more apparent and the basis by which many people are becoming rich.
01:12:13 And it already is, actually.
01:12:14 But what's the crisis look like?
01:12:16 What's the crisis look like?
01:12:18 What is the devastation of that look like in terms of the community?
01:12:24 How do people function?
01:12:25 How do they feel?
01:12:27 What do you do about it?
01:12:29 Well, I mean, not everybody's going to be good at predicting.
01:12:32 Not everybody's good at anything.
01:12:34 Right, I know.
01:12:35 But there are people who work at McDonald's and they can't do anything else.
01:12:37 Right, but they have something to do.
01:12:39 And in the future, that's not going to be there for them.
01:12:41 So they've got nothing to do.
01:12:43 There are people right now who just live off welfare.
01:12:45 Well, there are people who do nothing and get paid.
01:12:47 There are jobs that are fake for the purpose of just to give people money.
01:12:49 Well, I agree with that, but that's a progression in a negative way, a regression or whatever the word would be, towards something that's not good, right?
01:12:57 There wasn't welfare 100 years ago the same way there is now, right?
01:13:01 You had to go to St. Stanislaus if you were Polish American and get some help, or you went to St. Patrick's.
01:13:05 So, what do we end up with if we go?
01:13:08 I mean, UBI doesn't work.
01:13:10 It doesn't work.
01:13:10 UBI does not work.
01:13:11 So, it doesn't work.
01:13:12 So, we have right now a class of people that, as you said, are obese, and because they're on welfare, it's not a meaningful life, right?
01:13:18 So, what do we end up doing?
01:13:19 Most of us.
01:13:20 What do we find meaningful to them?
01:13:21 Well, do we end up with most of the people in that existence?
01:13:26 So, most people actually have a meaningless life?
01:13:29 Well, that's a question.
01:13:30 Outside, I mean, most people find meaning with families and with their social connections and stuff.
01:13:37 Most people don't do a job they love, they do a job that pays the bills, they do a job that they can tolerate.
01:13:45 So, I don't know that we're going to be able to fix the fact that people don't have the same social connections, but I don't think the jobs part is actually.
01:13:56 That's important because I think that there are an exceedingly few number of people, at least in the world, but specifically in the U.S., that have a job they really enjoy that they love.
01:14:10 Most people go to a job that they tolerate.
01:14:13 But did anybody ever?
01:14:13 Maybe they love it.
01:14:14 I mean, if you were a hunter gatherer, you'd work in a feast.
01:14:17 So that's just, let's call it.
01:14:18 There's more people now than ever have, probably.
01:14:20 Yeah, that's right.
01:14:21 And so I'm just saying that what the problem that's coming, it seems unbelievable.
01:14:21 I think that's true.
01:14:27 Overwhelming.
01:14:28 I think what I'm trying to articulate is the social connections is the more pressing problem than the actual work stuff.
01:14:34 I think that's true.
01:14:34 Yes.
01:14:35 And I mean, I know, Ed, you've talked about this before. 0.91
01:14:38 I mean, I think part of it really is like with sort of immigration crisis that we have with legal, like you're seeing the sort of the social compact breakdown where, I mean, even legal immigrants are like, okay, so I did all this paperwork and this person just comes and skips the line. 0.61
01:14:52 Where like a lot of communities in this country really feel unstable because of the volume of like illegal immigration that's coming to the country. 0.51
01:14:59 And like Trump's been doing some great work on the immigration front. 0.60
01:15:01 But how do you like to go to young men and you're like, hey, by the way, you can't buy a house and 20 million of them are being occupied?
01:15:07 And then Sarah Huckabee Sanders makes an ad just crapping all over you.
01:15:12 Yeah.
01:15:12 And, you know, I was looking for a job.
01:15:14 By the way, that's the end of her career.
01:15:16 She wanted to be VP in the next.
01:15:18 Let's pull this up.
01:15:19 We got this tweet from Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 1.00
01:15:22 You pay taxes to cover welfare for people who just choose not to work.
01:15:25 That's why I launched a welfare to work requirement.
01:15:27 If you're young, healthy, and get government assistance, you should work, go to school, or volunteer.
01:15:32 Let me play the video for you guys and then you can guess why everyone's mad.
01:15:37 Meet Brad.
01:15:39 Brad has turned relaxing into a full time profession.
01:15:44 But you, you actually work hard.
01:15:46 You pay taxes to cover welfare for guys like Brad who just choose not to work.
01:15:53 That's why I launched a welfare to work requirement.
01:15:56 Almost there. 0.99
01:15:58 Now, more Arkansans are working than ever before.
01:16:03 Even Brad.
01:16:07 So, what do you guys notice about this video that's got everybody all angry? 1.00
01:16:11 He's a chud. 1.00
01:16:12 They're going after gamers. 0.99
01:16:14 They're going after Gen Z white male gamers as if they're sitting at home on welfare, not working.
01:16:20 Oh, I'm proud to say on this tweet, I have the top quote tweet.
01:16:23 I've ratioed her like three to one on this. 0.99
01:16:25 Good shit. 0.99
01:16:25 Me and Matt Walsh are holding it down on this front. 0.99
01:16:28 In the quotes?
01:16:29 Yeah, I have the number one.
01:16:31 Kate Brown says the only acceptable villain in their anti welfare ad is a young white male gamer.
01:16:36 Yeah, it's a safe one, though.
01:16:37 It is.
01:16:38 It is.
01:16:38 It's a safe attack vector where it's like, look, if we're going to cut the brass tacks, I think we kind of know instinctually, especially in a place like Arkansas, who the primary people are that are.
01:16:46 On welfare, that probably gamer walks alone.
01:16:49 Uh, yeah, and so you're seeing like this total all out attack. 0.82
01:16:52 It's always going to be acceptable to punch, um, and beat up on young white men because like we're expected to just take it, and that's what's so absurd about this.
01:17:01 Where you know, some people are like, Well, what if she's doing 40 chess? 0.90
01:17:03 Like, this is an issue that needs to be solved, but she understands like if she can win over like you know more left wing people by attacking young white men, then like people support it.
01:17:11 And I'm like, Then just don't cut the ad at all.
01:17:13 Like, why even make the ad in the first place?
01:17:16 It's just a completely abhorrent messaging.
01:17:18 To young men who, like, it's been well illustrated that, and the Trump administration has been a large part of exposing a lot of this.
01:17:25 It's been well illustrated how major institutions in this country have seek to punish young white men, prevent them from getting into college, prevent, like, through deep supporting DEI initiatives, prevent them from getting better and better jobs in the economy that they would be entitled to off of merit.
01:17:38 It's just in every direction, it's been this impediment.
01:17:40 And then how do you turn around?
01:17:41 You turn around and attack those same guys who, I did a cursory search.
01:17:44 It's like 3% of under 30 white men are taking welfare subsidies in the state of Arkansas.
01:17:49 And they're probably taking it legitimately. 0.77
01:17:51 Presumably, yeah.
01:17:52 Yeah.
01:17:52 So it's just.
01:17:54 They collect that unemployment legitimately, and then there are people who are abusing it, and they're not being called out.
01:17:59 So that's what's just frustrating.
01:17:59 Yeah.
01:18:00 And it kind of goes back to my earlier thing.
01:18:01 Like, I mean, immigration is like where a lot of young men are not a lot.
01:18:05 You can go look at the polling.
01:18:06 The number one issue young men are citing is like immigration related issues, whether it's like housing crunches caused by immigration, jobs crunched from immigration.
01:18:15 So it's like the Trump administration has been doing really good work on that front.
01:18:18 But the problem is immigration, in and of itself, not going to be a kitchen table issue.
01:18:22 When you communicate to young guys, hey, we're like buying you back into the game.
01:18:25 You guys got completely like nuked from orbit by liberals with their junior partners, the conservative movement.
01:18:31 We're buying you back into this game by creating some room with like immigration enforcement.
01:18:36 What you don't do is like turn around and then this is your messaging.
01:18:36 Communicate that to us.
01:18:40 And we're not just picking on the random governor of Arkansas. 0.99
01:18:42 This is a woman that is steeped in conservative ink tradition.
01:18:46 This is a woman whose dad is like one of the most important people in the conservative movement, so to speak.
01:18:50 This is a woman that should know better.
01:18:53 And so, this isn't just an outlier because you also will see this sorts of messaging from Republicans all the time because they take for granted young white men.
01:19:01 Because, you know, as soon as young white men start getting a little agitated and say, What are you going to go vote for the Marxists?
01:19:05 They hate you even more.
01:19:06 And it's like, it just puts you in this tough perspective from like game theory.
01:19:09 Well, this is why Nick Fuentes said the GOP needs to be burned to the ground.
01:19:13 Yeah.
01:19:13 Because of things like this.
01:19:14 And he's just like, You're not going to get any meaningful political representation until the GOP is weak and taken over.
01:19:22 Well, and if you look at it from the perspective of how do the Democrats.
01:19:26 Talk about their core constituents, or at least who they like expect to be a part of their core constituencies.
01:19:30 They're coming up with holidays for them.
01:19:32 They're coming up with grants. 0.67
01:19:34 They're like, black women, black men are the greatest things in sliced bread.
01:19:37 And it's like, if that's your core base, fine, the Democrats know how to play politics.
01:19:41 I'm not expecting the GOP to have like, you know, white history month or anything like that, but at the very least, don't attack us.
01:19:47 I mean, it is just like, especially if they are in this knife fight for the midterms, I mean, it's insulting, sure.
01:19:53 But additionally, you're just going to completely demoralize young guys who, Okay, yes, they're not like the number one voting block.
01:20:00 It's still going to be, you know, older, older white people for the Republicans, but you're going to need them at some point, like when, you know, the demographics.
01:20:06 Well, I'm sorry.
01:20:08 I just, I gotta rag on conservatives.
01:20:12 Like at a certain point, you know, I look at a kid and he's getting bullied, okay?
01:20:19 And I see a bully picking on him.
01:20:21 And the kid who's getting bullied just keeps getting bullied and he won't do anything about it.
01:20:25 Am I supposed to go, oh no, oh, that poor baby.
01:20:28 Nah, that ain't me.
01:20:29 That ain't me.
01:20:30 I'm gonna see that kid and he's gonna be like, I'm getting picked on. 0.99
01:20:33 I'll be like, well, maybe you should start doing some push ups, learn to fight, kick him into balls, and he'll leave you the F alone. 0.98
01:20:39 I'm just, I'm done. 0.97
01:20:41 I'm frustrated with conservatives who will not defend themselves to save their own political ideology.
01:20:48 It just frustrates me.
01:20:52 But this ad has a history.
01:20:55 Reagan got famous in between his 76 and 80 loss talking about welfare queens.
01:21:00 And he accurately showed who it was and that the policies of the Great Society had created this mess.
01:21:08 And here is what I would say is amateur hour.
01:21:11 Someone said welfare.
01:21:13 I've seen the polling welfare to work.
01:21:15 Polls well among voters, they say.
01:21:18 But if you don't know where the heartbeat of the Republican Party or the conservative movement or just America is, you do an ad like this.
01:21:26 I mean, imagine naming that person Brad.
01:21:28 Like, it's actually like taunting everybody that knows Judd and Chad and all the rest of it.
01:21:35 And for her to think that this turns out anybody.
01:21:37 And by the way, Arkansas, she does have a problem. 1.00
01:21:39 She's not very popular down there. 0.98
01:21:41 So she's doing something to try to react to that.
01:21:43 That's what's going on.
01:21:44 But I mean, again, end of her career.
01:21:46 And Tim, I don't know what you mean.
01:21:48 What do you want?
01:21:49 You want Brad to defend himself or us to throw her under the bus?
01:21:53 I'm saying her career is over.
01:21:55 She will never be on a national ticket. 1.00
01:21:57 So she exemplifies the fact that I'm not going to call out the actual abuse in the welfare system, which is largely coming from migrants. 1.00
01:22:08 It's coming from single baby mamas in the black community. 1.00
01:22:13 Right. 0.78
01:22:14 It's not coming from young white Gen Z guys.
01:22:17 They're too afraid to say it, so they won't. 0.50
01:22:20 At the same time, I also will kind of push over the edge.
01:22:23 And I saw a clip.
01:22:24 And with all due respect, I know people get mad because it feels like I'm attacking the little guy.
01:22:29 But Crowder's got his debate going on right now.
01:22:32 And there was a woman who said that she has to lie about her politics to graduate.
01:22:35 Don't go to that school.
01:22:37 I'm done.
01:22:38 I'm not sympathizing with you when you choose to go to a woke university, pretend to be liberal, lie on your papers, and say, please validate me, woke professor.
01:22:49 I'm so sick of this.
01:22:51 When I was a teenager, I had a friend who was getting paid $3 an hour working as a waitress.
01:22:57 And she was like, it's not fair.
01:22:59 We need to raise the minimum wage and guarantee staff wages.
01:23:02 And I said, you can quit.
01:23:04 She was like, well, no, I need the job.
01:23:05 And I'm like, okay, well, if they're not paying you enough, you clearly need a better job, so quit.
01:23:10 And she's like, I can't.
01:23:11 Like, I have to have a job.
01:23:13 And I said, okay, then go to all the other employees and tell them all to get together and quit at the same time, demand a $2 an hour raise.
01:23:21 And she said, no, I won't do that.
01:23:23 I say, then don't complain to me and demand that we change laws for you when you won't take the first step.
01:23:32 To improving your life.
01:23:33 So, again, with all due respect, I understand it is stressful, it is difficult.
01:23:38 But if you have decided that you are going to bend the knee to these people, don't be surprised when they lord over you for 20 years.
01:23:49 Look, if you're going to steal me and her argument or her ad, at the end, Brad gets a job and it's like, oh, look, this is maybe something good. 0.99
01:24:01 But you can't deny the fact that, like, young white men have got kind of the shit into the stick for the past decade or so, since 2015. 0.98
01:24:10 I forget what the article was, but we talked about it on the show before today. 0.99
01:24:15 What was it?
01:24:16 The article about the discrimination against young white men.
01:24:21 Oh, right.
01:24:21 Yeah.
01:24:22 And the compact.
01:24:22 That was in the compact.
01:24:24 And it's true.
01:24:25 Like, John Doyle was talking about it recently.
01:24:27 It's like young white men actually are discriminated against.
01:24:31 And I think the reason that she went with this. 0.58
01:24:33 Isn't so much that she has a bone to pick with young white men, but because the fact that it's safe if you put any other person in there. 0.54
01:24:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:24:40 Republicans are too scared to say there are black women abusing the welfare system and we're giving too much money to illegal and legal immigrants. 1.00
01:24:49 I mean, imagine. 0.96
01:24:49 They're too scared to say. 0.96
01:24:50 Donald Trump. 0.97
01:24:50 Imagine if Democrats in California cut an ad painting, you know, a Chinese guy as like just this, like really incompetent. 0.97
01:24:56 Like it'd be so stupid because it's like, that's your base. 1.00
01:24:59 Like, what are you doing? 0.97
01:25:00 So it's like, just don't make the ad at all.
01:25:02 It's going to be popular.
01:25:02 Don't make it.
01:25:03 People are going to like it.
01:25:05 If that's your, like, don't even make the ad at all because you've just antagonized who, like, in large part, I can attest to this personally, make up the majority of your activist space.
01:25:13 So everyone's like, okay, well, they don't vote.
01:25:15 Yes, that's true, but they do provide you the muscle.
01:25:17 Those are the ones knocking on doors.
01:25:19 Those are the guys who are going to, like, staff a lot of these administrations.
01:25:21 If you alienate them, you potentially, they're not going to go to the left, but they're just going to tap out.
01:25:25 They're going to be doing cow sheet and sports betting. 0.54
01:25:27 It's like when you see these home security company commercials and the burglars are always like middle aged white guys.
01:25:32 Yeah.
01:25:33 Yeah.
01:25:33 Like, I'm sorry.
01:25:34 That's just not the demographic of people that are committing these crimes.
01:25:38 You know, I have a problem with this. 0.97
01:25:40 There is nothing wrong with saying that a majority of like murders are committed by young black men. 0.79
01:25:45 That is just a statistic and it says nothing about the individual black person. 0.93
01:25:49 It is not disparaging in any way to your average or any other black person to point out there are criminals that are disproportionately committed by young black men. 0.78
01:25:59 That's it. 0.98
01:26:00 But what we see here is, as Phil pointed out, and I think has already been said several times, but I'll say it again, it is safe to attack white men. 0.98
01:26:10 It is safe because white men aren't going to do anything about it. 0.53
01:26:14 And if she goes after the actual demographics that are abusing welfare, she's like, I would lose every single one of those votes.
01:26:21 So, you know what? 0.85
01:26:23 White people are going to vote for. 0.63
01:26:24 And this is kind of the point that I was making with, and not for anybody here, not for the people who are obviously standing up and pushing back. 0.67
01:26:30 But as we're looking at this, you know, I've got X pulled up on monitoring news and I see at Crowder's debate, this woman said she had to lie about her political beliefs, lie on her paperwork, otherwise she wouldn't graduate. 0.94
01:26:40 And I was like, Congratulations, you bent the knee to woke lunatics. 0.94
01:26:43 So that they would validate you. 0.96
01:26:44 I hope it works out for you.
01:26:45 Congratulations, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
01:26:48 The white people, white conservatives, are going to vote for her despite this ad.
01:26:53 Like you said, what are you going to do?
01:26:54 Vote for a Marxist?
01:26:55 They're going to bend over and take this stuff.
01:26:57 So I don't know what the answer is.
01:27:00 I'm just, I'll tell people this.
01:27:01 If you won't stand up for yourself, you know what?
01:27:03 I'll put it this way.
01:27:05 If you don't have the fortitude to stand up for yourself, don't expect me to.
01:27:10 Yeah, well, I think you should look at it from a slightly different perspective, which is.
01:27:15 No young men, young, let's just say, specifically young white men aren't going to vote Democrat.
01:27:19 That's likely not going to happen.
01:27:21 But you're going to lose an engine room.
01:27:24 And it's okay to say young white men are probably destined to vote Republican because among young white men, they are more right wing than millennials.
01:27:32 And I think potentially even Gen X would say.
01:27:34 They'll stay home.
01:27:35 Certainly.
01:27:35 But when you just basically nuke them from orbit, they're not going to be excited to vote Republicans.
01:27:42 They're not going to be wanting to go work for them.
01:27:43 Certainly.
01:27:44 Because it's like, why am I going to stick my neck out for you?
01:27:47 When you couldn't even not just stick your neck out for me, but you couldn't even resist attacking me. 0.99
01:27:50 I mean, it's just like completely ridiculous. 0.87
01:27:52 So they're going to lose that engine room who they're going to need.
01:27:55 I mean, they don't need it right now per se, but they're going to need it in the next five to 10 years.
01:27:59 And a lot of them are going to remember this.
01:28:00 A lot of them aren't going to like say, well, I was about to take that job, but I remember that Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
01:28:04 No, but it compounds. 0.99
01:28:05 It's just demoralization after more demoralization.
01:28:08 They just tap out.
01:28:09 They're like, I'm just going to get really into football or something.
01:28:10 And they're not going to be interested in this anymore.
01:28:12 All right, let's jump to a story that I was hoping we wouldn't have to cover, but I guess we're going to have to cover it.
01:28:17 It's got 10 million plus views.
01:28:20 I saw the story earlier. 1.00
01:28:22 It's going massively viral because so many people hate Candace Owens. 0.99
01:28:26 But you got this guy in X who says exclusive Candace Owens is a lesbian with four dating accounts. 1.00
01:28:32 And she cheated on her Hebrew speaking husband with girls in 2022.
01:28:36 I found four of her dating profiles, and there is some crude drawing of Candace licking a hairless cat.
01:28:43 Oh. 0.99
01:28:44 And it says, Candace Owens, the cheating lesbian funded by a Zionist. 1.00
01:28:48 Oh my God. 0.92
01:28:50 It's got 8.8 million views plus insane amounts of quotes, and it is the second top trending story on X right now.
01:28:57 I saw this story earlier and I said, I'm not going anywhere near this.
01:29:00 I actually, I think this guy emailed me.
01:29:04 And it said something like the dirt on Candace.
01:29:05 And I was like, no, I don't do this stuff.
01:29:07 I'm not playing this game.
01:29:08 Well, you know, other people wanted to play that game.
01:29:10 So here you go.
01:29:12 I'll give you the gist of it.
01:29:13 So I've got to go through literally every single thing in this weird Scooby Doo themed expose.
01:29:19 Apparently, she's got accounts on YouTube that it does appear they're legit.
01:29:25 They're regular, like a regular YouTube account, using a specific username.
01:29:30 That same username is attached to gay dating profiles that I believe many of them don't have her face, but it shows a young black woman.
01:29:39 And that's part of the corroborating information, I guess.
01:29:43 So, I don't know.
01:29:44 We'll scroll down a little bit.
01:29:46 Chapter one.
01:29:48 It's apparently she's got, I don't know.
01:29:51 Look, you can read through it yourself.
01:29:52 I don't want to go through all this stuff.
01:29:54 But she uses certain usernames that appear on gay dating profiles, and the same username appears on other profiles that are very obviously her.
01:30:06 And so that's largely the argument.
01:30:08 And then there's some videos where you can hear her voice and stuff like this.
01:30:11 Yeah, I'm not going to play all that.
01:30:14 But.
01:30:16 It's hilarious. 0.99
01:30:17 The cheating lesbian funded by a Zionist, the deconstruction of Candace, Candace Owens' hidden homosexuality, the federal agent promoting real Candace O to become president so he can blackmail her with a sex tape, and the Zionist who secretly owns her anti Zionist business. 0.99
01:30:32 Oh my God. 0.98
01:30:34 Well, what I will say is there was a big scandal because her lawyer was like one of the most prominent Zionists. 0.99
01:30:38 I don't know if you guys saw this. 0.97
01:30:40 It's like weird.
01:30:42 I don't know.
01:30:43 Welcome to the news cycle, I guess.
01:30:45 This is the news.
01:30:46 Say words.
01:30:49 Say words.
01:30:49 Well, look, I mean, when you're someone as popular as Candace Owens, or someone that has made as much news as Candace Owens has in the past couple of years, if you have skeletons in your closet, people are going to be looking for them.
01:31:05 And I mean, obviously, I don't know how legitimate this stuff is.
01:31:08 It looks like there might be some substance to it. 0.94
01:31:10 I saw the tweets myself and I scrolled on by because I don't give much of a crap about Candace Owens. 0.92
01:31:15 Or the drama kind of stuff, but you know. 1.00
01:31:18 But who gives a crap if she's gay anyway? 0.99
01:31:21 I guess the idea is like, if you're going to put in the headline, she's funded by Zionists, I can kind of tell the kind of people that are going to be sharing this and posting it. 0.99
01:31:31 Probably anti Zionists. 0.86
01:31:32 Yeah.
01:31:33 And I don't know.
01:31:35 Honestly, it would make sense that she's propped up as controlled opposition if someone was going to make that argument. 0.96
01:31:42 I don't really care to argue that she's gay if she is gay. 0.63
01:31:45 Like, my response, like when I saw the email, someone emailed me and they were like, you got to see the story.
01:31:49 I'm like, Good for her if she's gay, whatever. 0.98
01:31:51 She's in a sham marriage. 1.00
01:31:51 I don't know. 1.00
01:31:52 I don't know, whatever.
01:31:53 Like, I'm not here to rag on someone for being gay. 0.92
01:31:55 You can do that. 0.94
01:31:56 That's fine.
01:31:57 I think part of the impulse for people to do this is the fact that she's gotten so down in the mud with stuff.
01:32:04 And people are like, oh, well, if this is the type of salacious stuff that Candace Owens is involved or interested in reporting, finding out that she has a salacious past or whatever, people are going to be like, look, you lie down with pigs, you get covered in mud.
01:32:23 That's the way that media works.
01:32:26 And if you're.
01:32:27 You know, involved in this kind of stuff again, I don't have I gotta, I gotta say that she is, but like the picture they drew is it's pretty good, yeah.
01:32:36 You pull that up, I was like, What is this going to be?
01:32:38 It's just a test to the ironclad reporting of, yeah, exactly one of the best, misreputable outlets.
01:32:45 Yeah, I think they're in the new White House press pool.
01:32:48 You can see the mystery wagon outside of the white.
01:32:52 Could you imagine if like Laura Loomer asks, like, the one of the one of the the whole the stand in press briefings, you know, just like. 0.99
01:32:59 Can you comment on Candace Owens being a cheating lesbian funded by Zionists? 0.70
01:33:03 Or if they're in the press. 0.93
01:33:04 Well, so, yeah, John Smith, Mystery Machine News.
01:33:06 Yeah, I was wondering if they were on.
01:33:09 Has Laura Loomer tweeted about this yet?
01:33:11 She did.
01:33:12 She's way down.
01:33:13 Again, I was like, I don't care. 0.91
01:33:13 She did. 0.91
01:33:16 It's not news, okay? 0.85
01:33:17 Like, if Candace is gay, whatever. 0.98
01:33:18 She can be gay. 0.96
01:33:19 But it's trending on X. 0.93
01:33:21 It's like the trending news right now.
01:33:24 And I just muted everything that you could possibly, like, you know, if you're even referencing her in some vague way, I haven't muted.
01:33:31 So I just am completely.
01:33:33 Out of the can, so you missed the shocking reporting from Mystery Machine News.
01:33:37 I'm usually glued to my television set. 0.97
01:33:41 Why go with the stupidest brand you could to go like if you've got this big expose, call it like the World News Times or something, you know what I mean? 0.99
01:33:50 Not like shaggyism from the Mystery Machine. 0.99
01:33:54 I'm curious, the whole philosophy there, too.
01:33:57 He's already changed his bio to the man who defeated Candace Owens, claiming victory already.
01:34:03 Yeah, it's just fascinating.
01:34:04 This is the kind of stuff that has me saying, like, I'm checking out.
01:34:04 I got to be honest.
01:34:07 Like, with some renegade, hard hitting journalism?
01:34:10 That's no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm watching.
01:34:12 I watched a, did you guys know there was a pro data center party the other day in DC?
01:34:15 Oh, yeah.
01:34:16 A bunch of conservatives got together and had a big event, and it was in favor of data centers.
01:34:20 And people were asking, like, what are you here?
01:34:22 And there's a woman, and she's like, I love the internet.
01:34:24 And it's, and then some protesters, some protester woman showed up and started screaming, they're stealing all our water. 0.97
01:34:29 And I'm just like, okay, everyone's retarded. 0.91
01:34:33 Maybe we really just need to go watch some football and have some fun. 1.00
01:34:35 Just need to return to like feudalism.
01:34:36 Watch football and see if Trevor Lawrence is taking a knee.
01:34:39 We need feudalism.
01:34:39 Well, I mean, like when politics is.
01:34:42 Now I get politicians, you know, why Mitch McConnell or Mike Johnson is just like, we're not going to do any of this stuff.
01:34:47 Jonathan's like, we're not going to pass the Save Act.
01:34:49 They're sitting there being like, you want these people actually in control?
01:34:52 And I'm like, you know, this.
01:34:56 You know, it's really mind blowing to me.
01:34:58 There's a new show coming out on Hulu.
01:34:59 I forgot what it's called, but I was talking to Mershall Ford today.
01:35:03 And it looked like Schoolhouse Rock or whatever.
01:35:07 And I'm just like, and then I was talking to my wife, and I was like, you know, like Toys R Us, there was like some report that toy sales are up amongst adults or something like this.
01:35:16 Oh, yeah.
01:35:16 Majority.
01:35:16 And I'm just like, majority of sales.
01:35:19 This is the state.
01:35:21 Like, what am I doing here?
01:35:21 Okay, you know what?
01:35:23 You know, I mean, I could.
01:35:25 You could be opening packs of Pokemon.
01:35:27 I was going to say, I got right behind me, right behind me.
01:35:30 You can't see it anymore because we moved it over.
01:35:31 I'll move it back.
01:35:32 I've got a blue neon chocobo card.
01:35:36 Blue neon chocobo card.
01:35:37 You want to look up the value on that blue neon chocobo card?
01:35:41 Blue neon chocolate.
01:35:42 Blue neon chocobo.
01:35:44 We ain't playing around.
01:35:45 How do you spell chocobo?
01:35:47 It's phonetic.
01:35:48 C H O C O B O. Chocobo.
01:35:52 Don't you know anything, Phil?
01:35:53 No, I don't.
01:35:53 Chocolate bow.
01:35:54 I feel like, yeah, spelling it phonetically actually confuses me more.
01:35:57 Yeah, I guess because it's a C, not a K. Blue Neon Chocobo.
01:36:01 Come on. 0.99
01:36:02 Chocobo.
01:36:03 Between $1,900 and $2,500.
01:36:06 For ungraded near mint condition copies, the current market range is between $1,900 and $2,500.
01:36:10 Fresh out the pack in a double sleeve, placed inside our little box.
01:36:15 I also have an ancestral recall.
01:36:17 A PSA 10 mint grade is, examples exceed $3,900 to $9,009.
01:36:24 Wow.
01:36:25 I doubt it's 10 because you've got to get lucky to pull a 10.
01:36:28 Yeah. 0.96
01:36:28 But, you know, nine to 9.5 is like typical when you open a pack, just because there's always some kind of blemish. 0.96
01:36:35 But I could be spending my days cracking packs of, we got a reality fracture coming out for Magic the Gathering.
01:36:42 You know, I could just open booster packs and make a ton of money instead of whatever this is.
01:36:47 You know, that's true.
01:36:48 I mean, like, people are passionate.
01:36:51 But I say it again, you know, like, we're chickens in a chicken coop because I look at a lot of this stuff and I'm just like, this is what people want to talk about. 0.98
01:36:59 Like when I'm on the street and then I see the Jehovah's Witness doing their thing, I stop now. 0.99
01:36:59 Oh, yeah. 0.99
01:37:03 I'm like, tell me more about your thing again.
01:37:06 Well, because here's the reality.
01:37:08 I mean, what are you fighting for in politics with a story like this?
01:37:13 What are you hoping to accomplish?
01:37:15 Because if you're hoping to accomplish real change, like if you think Candace is negatively impacting the state of political affairs, this is not the most effective thing that a smart person could do to stop her.
01:37:28 The smartest thing you could do would be to make as much money as possible and influence, control, and other systems.
01:37:33 If you have control of a large business, you can actually manipulate with that business other industries.
01:37:42 You can do things like we see at these universities and subsidize ideas. 0.95
01:37:45 Making a blog that insults her for being gay doesn't actually do anything. 0.99
01:37:50 You know? 0.95
01:37:51 Well, no, but score settling.
01:37:53 I don't know if it's maybe a score settling.
01:37:55 I guess.
01:37:56 This is just this person trying to use Candace as a springboard for their own, you know, intent or for attention.
01:38:02 That's why he's already changed his name to.
01:38:04 The man that took Kansas Owens down or whatever.
01:38:07 But that's what I'm talking about.
01:38:07 Yeah, I don't know.
01:38:08 Why I'm saying, like, dude, am I really going to.
01:38:12 Is this really what we're doing?
01:38:14 Too much of politics is just.
01:38:17 Remember the snizmogger? 1.00
01:38:19 What was her? 1.00
01:38:21 Snizmogger? 1.00
01:38:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:38:23 What were people calling her? 1.00
01:38:26 The woman who was spreading her legs and being conservative. 1.00
01:38:28 Oh, yeah, I know you're talking about that.
01:38:29 What's the word of truth?
01:38:29 I don't remember what her name was.
01:38:30 I don't remember. 0.99
01:38:31 Yeah, it was something mogging.
01:38:33 I don't know.
01:38:34 I mean, because it's like.
01:38:36 Oh, cooter mogging.
01:38:37 Cooter mogging. 0.71
01:38:37 Yeah, it's the cooter mogger. 0.71
01:38:38 Yes. 1.00
01:38:39 She, well, she's just selling her OnlyFans. 0.94
01:38:41 They all are. 0.95
01:38:42 Well, I don't know that he, that Shaggy has a YouTube channel.
01:38:44 I got another one to pull up for you guys. 1.00
01:38:45 I got another one to pull up for you guys.
01:38:46 Let me see if I can find this.
01:38:48 Cooter mine.
01:38:51 I got a video here from, I think it's the New York Times.
01:38:54 Everything's fake.
01:38:55 Everybody's lying. 1.00
01:38:56 Instagram is dumb. 1.00
01:38:57 Here's the video Exodus. 1.00
01:38:59 I'm an ex trad wife.
01:39:00 The first thing I do every morning is check to see if my child support's been baked yet.
01:39:04 There is a new category of social media influencer, trad wife.
01:39:04 God.
01:39:09 The influencer.
01:39:10 I was an 18 year old trad wife who had a baby at the same age, and I'm 36 now, and I'm here to tell you don't do it.
01:39:17 The trad wife trend really came to prominence as the MAGA movement was rising, as Trump was coming into office the first time.
01:39:27 What these trad wife accounts are keying into is conservative political movements in the United States.
01:39:34 But the trad wife social media trend is waning.
01:39:39 Following a bunch of trad wife accounts a few years ago, I was particularly interested in this one by this woman, Bernadine Bluntly.
01:39:48 She would make these videos that were about how traditional roles prescribe that women should be submissive to their husbands. 1.00
01:39:56 Shout out to the men who do these hard jobs, who take these risks so society can function.
01:40:00 Soon she would have 140,000 YouTube subscribers.
01:40:04 Eventually, it is her income from Instagram, YouTube, and online courses that she sells to young women that sustains her, her husband, and their six children.
01:40:16 A couple of months ago, I noticed a new video on her feed.
01:40:21 I can no longer align with the trad movement as it exists today.
01:40:25 She is not the only one who is distancing herself from the trad movement.
01:40:30 Recently, Nara Smith went on the Call Her Daddy podcast.
01:40:33 People started to compare you to trad wife.
01:40:35 They kind of used me as the poster child for the trad wife movement, which was very bizarre to me.
01:40:35 Yeah.
01:40:40 A lot of women who were recruited into the trad movement are recruited when they are very young, when they're 17, 18, a few years out.
01:40:50 They are women who have multiple children and are starting to understand.
01:40:55 That the fantasy of that life that was sold to them is not what the reality is like. 0.99
01:41:02 Many women are finding that it's dangerous if they put all of their trust, all of their power, all of their money in the hands of a man who abuses it.
01:41:13 What I found talking to these women is many of them feel like their lives could not have gotten worse.
01:41:19 What I initially thought was a return to strong family values has, in many cases, devolved into just control, legalism, and an online ideal that doesn't hold up in real life.
01:41:30 Today, Bernadine is divorced.
01:41:32 She shares custody of her six children.
01:41:34 Are we in a trad?
01:41:36 So, the internet is completely fake.
01:41:39 And I think for the most part, there is no truth, only argument.
01:41:43 The New York Times is lying, but this is what the internet and politics is.
01:41:48 Isolating a handful of women who've had bad experiences and then saying trad wife is over does not actually mean it's over. 0.97
01:41:56 Hence, they play everyone's favorite game. 0.81
01:41:59 She says, Is the trad wife movement over? 0.57
01:42:03 And I forgot the name of the law, Behringer or something like that, any headline that asks a question can be answered with the word no.
01:42:14 So, what the New York Times is doing, taking a handful of accounts with bad experiences and then trying to convince you that women don't want to be trad wives.
01:42:25 At the same time, the accounts they're isolating probably were grifters in the first place people who are saying, I'm a trad wife because it got them followers and made them money.
01:42:36 This is the internet, and this is the large majority of politics.
01:42:40 That's the unfortunate reality.
01:42:43 There are people who are voting based on what they currently believe.
01:42:45 Their beliefs can change, and you are being lied to by the media.
01:42:50 As always, the overwhelming majority of media is not interested, and this is independent or otherwise, they're not interested in telling you the truth.
01:42:59 They're interested in you agreeing with their worldview for the purpose of empowering their worldview for some reason.
01:43:06 It's not all bad when I say it like that. 1.00
01:43:09 Somebody who thinks I need to get people to agree with me on, like, you know, not transing kids or whatever, we get is a good thing. 1.00
01:43:16 The question is, are you fighting for truth so that people can make these decisions or are you pretending? 0.98
01:43:22 And I think the sad reality is the overwhelming majority of people have been lying from the get go.
01:43:29 We just sometimes overlap in what our moral worldviews are.
01:43:33 I do believe there is inherent good and objective evil.
01:43:37 I don't think that lying is always evil.
01:43:40 My point is that there are people who believe they're justified in manipulating others because their end goals are the good one.
01:43:46 And this is exactly what we're seeing right now.
01:43:48 So, my point ultimately is everything's fake.
01:43:52 Nobody's making real arguments.
01:43:53 And we exist in a world where the likes of the New York Times, as well as these influencers, are trying to manipulate you for some reason, largely to make money.
01:44:00 And I wish you good luck. 0.75
01:44:02 Well, I mean, the New York Times criticizing the trad wife movement is not in any way a surprise to anybody, right? 0.62
01:44:09 Like, this particular woman, I assume that she probably considers herself a feminist.
01:44:16 Any kind of narrative that. 0.99
01:44:18 Tells young women, hey, maybe it's good to have a family. 0.53
01:44:21 Maybe it's good to have a husband.
01:44:25 That's something that the progressive movement has been kind of against for as long as I can remember.
01:44:31 Particularly when she's saying she's basically trotting out all of the old arguments against marriage.
01:44:37 Oh, you could be with an abusive man.
01:44:40 You're going to be beholden to him and you're not going to have any money and blah, blah, blah.
01:44:45 You should get your career first. 0.99
01:44:46 These are all old tropes that the The feminist movement has been telling young women forever. 0.94
01:44:51 And so this is just rehashing the same old arguments and using, you know, a couple people that had a bad experience as the example. 0.83
01:45:02 Yeah, I mean, all the trad wives aren't talking about it. 0.84
01:45:04 All the actual traditional women, like, don't have an online presence. 0.96
01:45:08 They're just married with kids. 1.00
01:45:10 But the New York Times goal here is just to push feminism. 1.00
01:45:12 Right.
01:45:13 I was going to say, I think earlier I said something that I didn't think that the mainstream media was brainwashing.
01:45:18 And you watched this, and I said to you in the middle, is that a journalist?
01:45:21 I mean, if you think about how that's structured, how this preachy woman is laying out this argument, and as you say, it's totally fake, but you don't even know how fake it is.
01:45:30 I mean, it's, and yet it's effective.
01:45:33 How many times is that viewed?
01:45:34 I mean, it's probably, well, it's got 160,000 likes, so probably a lot of views.
01:45:39 Yeah.
01:45:39 Right.
01:45:40 And they know what they're doing.
01:45:41 I mean, again, they know what they're doing in influencing people.
01:45:44 And, you know, here we are with New York Times.
01:45:46 You know, I think that shows like this are just.
01:45:53 The winds caught us at the right time because almost everybody I meet is knowingly lying.
01:45:59 Like when Kyla pretended to have a fight with me, so that it's like they were like, wait, you're not playing the grift?
01:46:06 I'm so confused.
01:46:07 Like you can just lie about what's going on, and I would play along for the purpose of getting views.
01:46:12 People start fake beef on the internet to get attention, to get views.
01:46:16 And I think I got to be honest, a small amount of shows that I think are actually trying to be honest.
01:46:23 And, uh, The rest are just trying to figure out how to maximize audience size and make money.
01:46:31 Yeah, it's unfortunate, but you're going to see this kind of pushback from the left.
01:46:38 And that's the entirety of this Instagram reel, in my opinion. 0.98
01:46:42 It's a way to strike at women that think, hey, I should do traditional things. 0.99
01:46:48 But to Tate's point, actual trad wives, they're not really on the internet doing that stuff. 1.00
01:46:54 They're taking care of their family, they're doing actually traditional stuff, not being.
01:47:00 You know, social media influencers.
01:47:01 Yeah, well, they have like 20 bodies, so they're cleaning up the crime scene with the aesthetic.
01:47:06 That's what's, I mean, that's seriously what's going on. 0.97
01:47:07 And like all these women, I bet, yeah, they're probably like divorced and now they gotta like, you know, recreate themselves or whatever. 0.94
01:47:13 Half of them probably weren't even calling themselves trad wives before, but now they're coming out on the other side and they're like, yeah, that's exactly.
01:47:19 Yeah, the second one, she's like, I used to be a trad wife.
01:47:19 Well, like that.
01:47:21 No, she's probably just saying that because it gets views.
01:47:23 Guys, go on Instagram and just swipe the carousel and you will probably see in one hour 300 accounts.
01:47:31 Of people that may have well have just posted, please follow me.
01:47:35 It's insane.
01:47:37 And it really makes me want to go live in a van down by the river. 0.65
01:47:40 Didn't the one girl say she had like a baby at 18 and now she's 36, and uh, something's like, how long has a trad wife been like popularized like this? 0.78
01:47:52 And also, what are they trying to achieve by like you know trying to make people not want to have more children?
01:47:58 I don't get it. 0.99
01:47:59 Well, this is like I said, this is just the same feminist tropes that have been, yeah, you know, trotted out forever. 0.97
01:48:05 It's it's the you know, you're you could get into a bad relationship, you need to get a career first, you can you can wait to have kids, etc., etc.
01:48:12 Um, and for a long time, you heard women saying, Look, I regret, or you've heard women, you know, saying, I regret the fact that I didn't have kids in when I was young, and now I'm 35, and I can't find a man that wants to settle down or that wants to have children with me, or you know, I froze my eggs, and now I'm, you know, in my 40s, and we're having problems actually having a kid, and etc.
01:48:34 These are all real things that women are experiencing.
01:48:37 And yes, there are some women that end up in bad marriages or whatever that does happen, but it doesn't change the fact that young women.
01:48:45 If they actually do want a family, the best time to do it is when you're young because that's when you're most likely to be able to conceive.
01:48:54 That's just the other thing, too, is if we hadn't, if we got rid of no fault divorce, this woman would not be divorced.
01:49:00 People just had to, you know, like work hard for their families and it was expected in society.
01:49:05 Yeah, we're like dating, you're practicing divorce every time you break up because these people typically will date for like three or four years and then break up.
01:49:12 And it's like you've just like thrown away three to four years of something with someone and.
01:49:17 People typically engage in all the behaviors that were historically reserved for a marriage.
01:49:20 Now it's part and parcel.
01:49:21 So you're like primed for divorce already.
01:49:24 So it really is no wonder why this tends to happen. 1.00
01:49:28 Ex trad wife is really like a redundant thing to say. 0.98
01:49:30 You're just a divorced woman.
01:49:31 Like, presumably, the marriage that you were in did feature like gender dynamics. 0.98
01:49:37 You can't get away.
01:49:38 There's no such thing as like a truly like egalitarian marriage.
01:49:41 Like, yeah, there's probably some aspects the males like to do and the females like to do, and that doesn't overlap.
01:49:46 So then you can go back and say, well, I wasn't a trad wife. 0.94
01:49:49 It's just like, yeah, she's very redundant.
01:49:51 They probably don't really have much reach because I don't think any women are aspiring to be trad wives or just aspiring to be wives with children. 0.86
01:49:59 And if that is now traditional, so be it. 0.70
01:50:02 But these women that are actually like, you know, like my fiance, she's, I would say she probably possesses fairly traditional values, but she doesn't have those because the internet told her to do so. 0.65
01:50:13 It's just like she's a woman that's like naturally, which I'm not a trad husband.
01:50:17 I'm just like aspiring to have children. 0.95
01:50:19 I guess that makes you traditional now.
01:50:22 So. 1.00
01:50:23 Yeah, this is like just because we're in such a horrific gender zeitgeist right now. 1.00
01:50:28 I guess these terms do like have possess meaning, but they really didn't 10 years ago.
01:50:32 Like, trad wife wasn't invented, it's just gender dynamics, marriage, dating, et cetera, broke down so much that now we had to invent a term for someone that possesses natural gender roles.
01:50:42 And I think that's really the more important story in all of this.
01:50:46 Yep. 1.00
01:50:47 It's all fake and gay. 1.00
01:50:47 The idea. 1.00
01:50:48 Well, yeah, I mean, that sums up what Tate was saying.
01:50:52 Like, the idea of trad wife is actually fake, right? 0.94
01:50:55 Like, it was just normal. 0.79
01:50:58 Up until 1965, or whenever they invented the birth control pill.
01:51:04 Which is why, like, back to my initial point, which is someone that is openly identifying as a trad wife, they're possessing these aesthetics, but they're posting online, likely indicates they're hiding something or they're trying to cover up.
01:51:14 They're trying to overcompensate for something that happened in the past.
01:51:17 And that's why, like, yeah, these people that are engaging in this way, I'm sure there's outliers.
01:51:21 I mean, I can't think of any, but I'm sure there are that are like online trad wife influencers.
01:51:28 But yeah, if they possess that desire to, like, You know, shout to the rooftops how great this lifestyle is.
01:51:35 They're probably juxtaposing it with something in their past that wasn't traditional.
01:51:38 And that's why all of a sudden I've discovered this traditional aesthetic and I'm going to make it my whole thing.
01:51:42 Because likely what happened in the past wasn't traditional.
01:51:44 And so they have that contrast in their head, where most women that you would classify as trad wives or whatever, they've been traditional their whole life.
01:51:51 So they don't have this past to juxtapose it to.
01:51:54 So it doesn't occur to them to call themselves trad wives. 0.84
01:51:57 And so, yeah, when you see women identifying this way or have this almost minstrel act of how a traditional woman ought to act, you should evaluate them with serious suspicion and scrutiny because there's likely something going on there. 0.95
01:52:12 And we've seen countless, you know, how many times have we seen the Tridewife turns out to not be so traditional with the way she's carried herself? 0.99
01:52:19 We're going to grab your Rumble Rants and Super Chat. 0.60
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01:52:29 Grim Creeper says the ATF just stated the other day that forced reset triggers are, in fact, actually machine guns.
01:52:36 People need to be ready for knocks on their door.
01:52:39 Could you, I mean, you mentioned it, Preach.
01:52:40 Could you outline some of the victories you had on the door?
01:52:42 Well, the big one, guys, that I'm really, I'm glad we came back around to it is.
01:52:47 In 1992, there was a law passed that said you could apply if you lost your Second Amendment rights, you could apply and get them back.
01:52:54 Because there are now, today, up to 30 million people who have what's called a disability on their Second Amendment rights.
01:53:00 If you were discharged from the military, if you had various offenses, including convictions, you'd lose your Second Amendment rights.
01:53:06 In 1992, it passes.
01:53:08 All these years later, we never got it implemented.
01:53:11 It was defunded by the left.
01:53:13 Senator Feinstein made it her life's goal to defund it.
01:53:16 George W. Bush never got it done.
01:53:18 Trump won, never got it done.
01:53:19 In the last about 15 months, we implemented the program and it opened up.
01:53:23 And so there are, like I said, 30 million people that could apply to get their rights back, Second Amendment rights back.
01:53:29 Likely number is probably 5 million that would be eligible.
01:53:32 You know, if you're in prison for a double murder using a gun, you're not going to get your Second Amendment rights back.
01:53:36 But so that's what's ongoing.
01:53:39 And if you go to the website that we started with, justice.gov slash FFRR, Federal Firearms Rights Restoration.
01:53:45 So justice.gov slash FFRR.
01:53:48 And you can see the program that's been implemented.
01:53:51 It's in three stages.
01:53:52 One kicked off last month.
01:53:54 Another one will start the day after Election Day.
01:53:56 And then the doors will be totally open on January 1st for as many people that can apply.
01:54:00 You apply, it gets reviewed, and you get your rights back.
01:54:04 And I will say, President Trump made it a priority.
01:54:07 When I was in DOJ, I was told do this.
01:54:10 And then Todd Blanch, who's now the AG, made it a priority.
01:54:13 And so we've got it done.
01:54:14 And it's pretty cool.
01:54:14 It's pretty awesome.
01:54:16 The response is great.
01:54:17 You know, the two or three weeks ago, we had some pardons.
01:54:21 Of, I never say his last name right, Tate Adamiak, one of the guys that was the Navy guy that was convicted of ridiculous charges under Biden.
01:54:30 Those were completely, there was no law broken.
01:54:34 And he was sentenced to like 24 years or something crazy.
01:54:37 But anyway, and a couple other guys in there.
01:54:39 And we've been on the march, I think, on Second Amendment jurisprudence in the DOJ.
01:54:45 The Solicitor General is a guy named John Sauer.
01:54:47 He does a great job on that.
01:54:48 So do some of the other folks.
01:54:50 So there's a lot of positive happening around the Second Amendment.
01:54:54 I did an interview last night and I said to somebody, I think it's more necessary than ever at this moment in history, maybe back to the revolution, because you just need stability in the society.
01:55:05 And when you see what I saw, which is I looked at the emails of Lisa Monaco, I looked at Jack Smith's inbox, these people were targeting Americans.
01:55:16 They had real plans to target Americans, to destroy Americans.
01:55:21 This was not like, oh, should we debate the marginal tax rates?
01:55:25 This was, we're going to put you in that gulag in DC. 0.58
01:55:27 We're going to make up the law that we use to get you. 0.69
01:55:30 And so, getting your Second Amendment rights back, if you can, you know, and I tell people, you get out of prison having served your time, you get your First Amendment rights back automatically.
01:55:39 You can speak whatever you want, you can assemble whatever you want.
01:55:41 And so, you ought to, all these years of chipping away at it, we have not had that back, and we should, and we're going to have them.
01:55:48 Actually, I want to talk to you about that with the last few minutes before we go to the Uncensored Show.
01:55:52 You saw political weaponization targeting adversaries of Biden or the Republicans?
01:55:58 Well, the biggest one that I saw, there's two ways to answer that.
01:56:01 The first one is, When I became U.S. Attorney, I wanted to know. 0.89
01:56:05 I called it the 1512 Project, echoing the 1619 Project.
01:56:09 I said, I want to know why we charged in this office, in the U.S. Attorney's office, the 1512 charge, because it's called obstruction of official proceeding, and it's meant to be about evidence tampering, not going to the Electoral College and somehow disrupting the count, which is what they said.
01:56:26 And what you discover in there is it went all the way up to Lisa Monaco's desk.
01:56:30 She was the DAG at the time.
01:56:32 Basically, a lie.
01:56:34 And once that was done, once the decision was made to use that lie, because if you trespass into the Capitol, that's a trespass, it's a misdemeanor.
01:56:42 And no one's getting held on a misdemeanor.
01:56:45 You had to put the felony of 1512 on it to make these guys go to jail and rot in jail for years and years.
01:56:51 So, my point in the 1512 project, which is a document that exists, it shows the trail and it shows the Capitol Siege unit was targeting people to put them in jail.
01:57:02 Ray Epps wasn't targeted.
01:57:04 Ray Epps was given a walk.
01:57:05 Why?
01:57:06 Well, it's a good question.
01:57:08 It's a good question.
01:57:09 Keep asking.
01:57:10 I mean, well, we've been asking for almost six years now.
01:57:13 I think we're just, we're just, well, we're resigned to the fact that Trump is not going to give us any real power to tell people what's going on.
01:57:21 Well, okay, fair enough.
01:57:22 This is why people are checked out for the midterms, too.
01:57:25 Well, I mean, you could be checked out if you want, but you have to know who your enemy is.
01:57:29 I mean, and I'm describing to you what we saw and what we know.
01:57:33 On the Jack Smith, Jack Smith decided that his vision for what to do to Trump.
01:57:38 Was to put Trump at the center of a 250 to 300 person trial.
01:57:44 In the 1990s in Sicily, they had what was called maxi trials.
01:57:48 They tried 260 defendants.
01:57:50 They built special courthouses and the trials went on for two years and they broke the mafia that way.
01:57:56 That's what Jack Smith was doing.
01:57:58 And he was willing to roll up guys and gals in the alternate electors, they were called.
01:58:03 Do you remember those?
01:58:04 And roll them up into this massive thing and destroy them all.
01:58:07 Those people were not even political types. 0.79
01:58:09 You were.
01:58:10 You were like the deputy, the vice chair of the county party in Wisconsin was asked to sign as an alternate elector, and they were rolling up.
01:58:17 And that was Jack Smith's vision to put Trump at the middle and roll this thing up and do it in D.C.
01:58:23 And if they'd gotten it in D.C. in district court there, you wouldn't have been able to control the jury.
01:58:27 Why hasn't action been taken against any of these people?
01:58:29 Well, I mean, Jack Smith is, he didn't do anything illegal.
01:58:33 He did something that was, in my mind, you know, completely unprecedented.
01:58:37 A malicious prosecution?
01:58:38 He didn't get to, well, you could do it maybe, but it's hard to do.
01:58:41 I mean, look, I would have done a malicious prosecution.
01:58:43 Against a bunch of people.
01:58:44 Do you think it was malicious prosecution?
01:58:46 I think that Jack Smith got beat at the courthouse enough that by the time he gets to Trump, he drops down to just Trump.
01:58:55 You can make a case that that was malicious prosecution.
01:58:58 But I think any reasonable person, even a liberal, but you see, the argument from the liberals is that we want to win.
01:59:05 So, of course, they're not going to concede to this.
01:59:08 Any reasonable person who looks at the facts of the case is going to say, oh, yeah, they've weaponized the legal system.
01:59:14 Okay, well, we're going to elect you, Trump, give you all three branches of government.
01:59:18 Here's your opportunity.
01:59:19 And he went, no.
01:59:21 And so now I'm being asked to vote in the midterms again, and I'm just tired.
01:59:25 You know, to be fair, like I said, look, we're in Riley Moore's district, so we're chilling.
01:59:28 He's going to win.
01:59:29 I want to make sure he wins.
01:59:30 I'm very happy he does a great job.
01:59:32 But as for the Republicans, what hope do I have when all of that stuff happened and they don't do anything about it?
01:59:39 The weaponization, they tried to do that fund, right?
01:59:44 For people who were targeted and it got stopped.
01:59:47 They can't seem to get anything done.
01:59:48 So it's like, okay, maybe this is not the way for us to push back against evil people.
01:59:54 Well, a couple answers to that. 0.97
01:59:56 The weaponization fund was a stupid way to go about it, and that was not what. 0.98
02:00:00 Most of us were advocating. 0.98
02:00:01 That doesn't answer your question in the sense that it did blow up.
02:00:04 The second thing I would say is look, the deep state is real.
02:00:08 And I will tell you that the forces, we got in on day one and we fired a lot of people, but we did not go far enough.
02:00:14 If you ask me what is the necessary vision for the future, it's finish the job.
02:00:19 I would say we have to finish the job, meaning we did a lot of stuff to start and we didn't get enough done.
02:00:24 I concede it.
02:00:25 What was stopping the Trump DOJ from going after these people?
02:00:28 Well, I'm describing it to you.
02:00:30 All kinds of layers of.
02:00:32 Of bureaucrats and others who say, not now, it's not illegal, it's not malicious prosecution.
02:00:37 I mean, there was only a handful of us that were saying, let's keep going that way.
02:00:42 Now, you can say, well, it should be different.
02:00:44 I'm not going to disagree with you, but I'm going to say that's what the reality is.
02:00:48 And, you know, back to earlier in the conversation, you know, do you get to turn the ship around on a dime?
02:00:54 It doesn't look like you do.
02:00:55 Now, you can say, well, we should have done it better.
02:00:58 I'm not here to say a yay or nay.
02:01:00 I'm saying, you know, we can't afford to let them be in charge.
02:01:03 Well, could I ask you kind of a related question?
02:01:05 Because, I mean, it's kind of the same topic around like the mass deportations kind of themes.
02:01:09 Because, you know, from my perspective, this kind of is where the energy is with Republicans.
02:01:14 I mean, this is for most people at the top of their list what they want to see the Trump administration carry out.
02:01:19 I'm kind of wondering what your perspective is because a lot of people are sort of contesting the same thing, which is look, Trump's trying to do one thing, but he's running up against a lot of walls regarding this.
02:01:27 I'm kind of wondering where your head is at on the mass deportation.
02:01:29 Well, I mean, look, you guys probably could tell.
02:01:32 I mean, I was frustrated in my role because I wanted to do more.
02:01:36 At various times, and that's real.
02:01:38 I mean, I wasn't in charge of everything, and there we have it.
02:01:41 So, but I will just say this in the first 60 days, I saw progress like I'd never expected to see.
02:01:47 And you could say Doge was a success or failure.
02:01:51 If you don't know, you say it's a failure.
02:01:53 If you know it was a success, was it a thorough success?
02:01:57 No, but nothing was.
02:01:57 The first 60 days, we did more to dismiss cases, pardon people, fire people.
02:02:03 Look, we pardoned all the J6ers, we pardoned all the FACE Act, we pardoned cops. 1.00
02:02:09 We dismissed case after case and fired prosecutors. 1.00
02:02:11 What I would tell you is what I discovered was that's the tip of the iceberg.
02:02:16 That the people that stayed, the people that are there, and then the people in the administration that came in in the administration become part of the system.
02:02:25 And everything, the oxygen of the deep state is delay.
02:02:29 Slow stuff down.
02:02:31 It took us 15 months to implement what should have taken three months in the firearms restoration, firearm rights restoration, because there's All these layers, all these manuals, all this nonsense.
02:02:43 And I look, if I could have gone back and done what we did in the first 60 days for the whole time, it would have been better.
02:02:49 But that's not what happened.
02:02:50 And on deportation, by the way, same deal.
02:02:53 You got these judges who jam it up.
02:02:55 And then our side, meaning Republicans, say, oh, well, we better wait.
02:02:59 You know, what are we going to do?
02:03:01 We should have defied the judges long before now.
02:03:04 We should have taken that showdown on judges.
02:03:06 We should impeach judges immediately, build a case.
02:03:09 And when Riley Moore would vote for it, but very few Republicans would vote for impeachment.
02:03:14 But we have to build the case and make the argument about what these people are doing.
02:03:18 Because otherwise, our guys go, oh, well, we can't deport everyone.
02:03:21 We're negotiating against ourselves because of the federal courts.
02:03:24 Yeah, because, like, on the deportation front, because you've outlined the deep state, but then also you have these, like, special interest groups as well.
02:03:29 They're all part of the deep state.
02:03:30 They're all, I mean, they're all wrapped up into this.
02:03:30 Yeah.
02:03:33 Yeah.
02:03:33 Again, there's not a meeting where there's not a conspiracy, it's a consensus.
02:03:39 That's the old John Birch Society line.
02:03:41 Yeah.
02:03:42 That's exactly right.
02:03:43 There's not a meeting where they say, this is how we do it.
02:03:46 There's a consensus that we must slow down whoever comes in, especially Trump, and we'll use every tool we have.
02:03:52 And then our side doesn't have the stomach to impeach somebody.
02:03:55 Mm hmm. 1.00
02:03:56 This snooky woman, the judge in the District of Columbia, this is insanity. 1.00
02:04:01 And there's no stomach to use the tools in the Constitution from the Congress to just, if you just talk about impeachment, these people lose their mind.
02:04:08 I'll tell you a quick story.
02:04:09 I go to the federal district court.
02:04:11 Boesberg invites me over.
02:04:12 I'm the U.S. attorney appointed by the President of the United States, you know, all the authority.
02:04:16 I go to a meeting of all the federal district court judges, and Chutkin, one of the judges, she won't even make eye contact with me.
02:04:22 She actually speaks staring at a table like this, staring straight ahead.
02:04:25 I'm sitting down there because she won't make eye contact.
02:04:28 That's how whack these people are. 0.97
02:04:30 And we're pretending that we can go before these courts and get a functional deal, get something to work out.
02:04:37 It never is going to happen.
02:04:39 And we better realize it.
02:04:41 Now, Tim's mad because we didn't do more.
02:04:42 I know.
02:04:43 And I am too.
02:04:44 But I'm just telling you if you think that it's not progress, if you think we didn't make progress, then you don't know how these things work, in my opinion.
02:04:54 And so this is progress and we need more.
02:04:56 I just can tell you Democrats winning in the fall here is not going to be progress.
02:05:01 I agree, but I think the issue is Republicans don't know how to play the game to ensure that they win.
02:05:07 I agree.
02:05:09 You've got what appears to be a, and I'll play this you're playing Monopoly.
02:05:14 You are watching them pull cash from the bank while they stare you in the eyes and do it, and you're going, well, but I can't do that.
02:05:22 I got a better one.
02:05:23 Well, you're going to lose.
02:05:24 I got a better one. 0.97
02:05:24 It's like the Geneva Convention the rules of engagement are they get to be armed, and we have to put down our arms and let them shoot us in the head. 0.97
02:05:33 And then we're like, wow, these, and they say, but you must abide by the Geneva Convention.
02:05:37 You must abide by the Geneva Convention.
02:05:38 This is important.
02:05:39 These are the rules.
02:05:40 These are the rules.
02:05:41 A grand jury says secrecy.
02:05:43 Jack Smith leaks on the grand jury the whole time, and no one is indicted.
02:05:46 He's never indicted.
02:05:47 His people are indicted.
02:05:48 We talk about the grand jury, and they're like, whoa, whoa, the judges are like, this is out.
02:05:53 So I'm with you.
02:05:54 I'm with you when you say it.
02:05:56 And so it's real simple Nick Fuentes is going to be president.
02:05:59 Well, because he's the guy saying, burn the GOP to the ground for this reason.
02:06:04 Right.
02:06:05 Because he's the guy who's arguing that when you get into office, you don't play by the rules, you go to war.
02:06:10 And the Republicans right now are saying, slow down there, Democrats.
02:06:14 Well, not all of them, but I mean, here's the problem with that.
02:06:16 You can wish that you could burn down the Republican Party, but you got to have a vehicle.
02:06:20 You got to pick a team, and you got to make the team better.
02:06:23 And when I say finish the job, what I mean by finish the job is the Republican Party has to become completely now the America First MAGA party.
02:06:32 And that has to happen.
02:06:33 I want to tell you guys a story that I probably shouldn't tell you, but I'm going to tell you anyway, but I'm going to save it for the uncensored.
02:06:37 Portion of the show because we are a bit over time, but I'm going to tell you the story anyway because I'm going to talk to you about my ethos and probably why I'll never be in office.
02:06:46 So smash the like button, share the show with everyone.
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02:06:54 Before we get to that, Ed, do you want to shout anything out?
02:06:58 The big thing I'm going to follow you.
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02:07:15 And a lot happening right now.
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02:10:20 We need a smoother way to transition the music so it fades in.
02:10:24 Is that possible?
02:10:25 I'm sure I could figure it out.
02:10:25 Yeah.
02:10:26 Because we all love that song.
02:10:29 I'm going to get in trouble and tell a story.
02:10:31 I'm going to tell a story. 0.93
02:10:33 I hate lawyers. 0.82
02:10:35 Good. 0.99
02:10:35 I absolutely hate lawyers. 0.99
02:10:36 I don't hate lawyers because they're evil. 1.00
02:10:38 I hate lawyers because they're dumb as fucking shit. 1.00
02:10:41 Let me be angry for a moment. 1.00
02:10:43 I have dealt with lawyers my whole life who have been wrong every fucking time. 0.97
02:10:49 I have never had a lawyer who was right. 0.98
02:10:51 At one time.
02:10:52 Never.
02:10:53 Wow.
02:10:53 I'm smarter than all the lawyers I've ever had.
02:10:55 Wow.
02:10:56 And it's impressive.
02:10:58 I can give you one story where my brother and I were arrested on false charges.
02:11:04 I got disorderly conduct.
02:11:05 My brother got assault.
02:11:07 Our lawyer said, plead guilty.
02:11:09 They'll give you 22 hours of community service at your own discretion.
02:11:12 And my brother and I talked about it.
02:11:15 And because my brother was facing six months maximum and I was facing 30 days, my brother was okay, I'll take the deal.
02:11:22 Tim, we agreed, I'll go to trial because worst case scenario is 30 days.
02:11:27 I want a trial. 0.98
02:11:28 And then the long story short is the ADA flipped the fuck out when she heard I was demanding a jury trial. 0.99
02:11:33 My brother got pissed that she exclaimed, she screamed in court, screamed. 0.86
02:11:37 So then he said, I want a jury trial too. 1.00
02:11:40 Fuck her. 1.00
02:11:41 And then ultimately, the judge dismissed the case. 1.00
02:11:44 But I'll tell you this story.
02:11:46 At our old studio, we had Verizon.
02:11:49 It was very, very difficult to get because we had to have the lines installed.
02:11:54 So there was a tower.
02:11:56 Not too far from where our studio was, but they had not yet laid down the fiber lines to the residential properties.
02:12:03 So we had been talking to them for some time, being like, we need this done because we need access to fiber.
02:12:08 We currently only had 20 megabit DSL.
02:12:11 Sucks.
02:12:13 And so we were able to do the show, but with 20 megabits, you're really pushing the limit. 0.98
02:12:17 We had like a two megabit satellite backup, which sucked.
02:12:21 And, you know, the internet's improved greatly since then.
02:12:23 We eventually, no, I'm sorry, was it Verizon?
02:12:25 It might have been Comcast.
02:12:26 I think it was Verizon.
02:12:28 I think it was Verizon.
02:12:29 Yeah.
02:12:30 I think I remember Andy was always on the phone with them.
02:12:33 I think it was Verizon 2, but I don't want to besmirch their good name necessarily.
02:12:33 Okay.
02:12:38 So I'll be careful and just say, I think it was, but I could be wrong.
02:12:41 It might have been Comcast.
02:12:43 That also sounds like it could have been.
02:12:43 Yeah.
02:12:45 Yeah.
02:12:45 Right.
02:12:45 It could have been Comcast.
02:12:46 Yeah.
02:12:47 So what ends up happening is when we moved from the studio and we came here, we contacted them as we had a contract for several years and told them.
02:12:58 And my team's doing all this.
02:12:59 So this is what's relayed to me.
02:12:59 I'm not personally doing it.
02:13:01 Hey, we're going to be relocating, so we're not going to re up the contract.
02:13:04 Thank you for everything.
02:13:05 We'd like to discontinue service.
02:13:07 To which they said, no problem.
02:13:10 They said, we will come out, we'll discontinue, we will disable it and take to box and all that stuff.
02:13:14 We were like, thank you so much for everything.
02:13:17 Like a year later, my phone's blown up with unknown caller, and I never answer my phone.
02:13:23 And I'm getting voicemails, and I never answer it.
02:13:25 Well, it was a collection agency, and they wanted $80,000.
02:13:29 They said that what had happened was, wow.
02:13:32 When we terminated, we broke the contract and had to pay for the full three years for another contract, which is like almost $30,000 a year.
02:13:41 And so I just told my team outright, I was like, the collection agency is asking if we want to tell them screw off.
02:13:45 No, I'm not interested.
02:13:46 Like, this is fake.
02:13:47 We don't owe anybody any money.
02:13:49 And so eventually, my team comes to me and they're like, they're threatening to hold it against the company, against you personally.
02:13:57 I think we should just ask the lawyers about it.
02:13:58 And I'm like, okay, fine.
02:13:59 Because they were incessant.
02:14:02 The lawyers said, pay them $40,000.
02:14:05 And I said, who?
02:14:07 And they're like, this company. 0.99
02:14:08 I'm like, I don't know who the fuck this company is. 0.98
02:14:11 And they said, the amount of money it's going to cost you in legal fees and going to court to fight this debt, it's going to be more than 40. 0.99
02:14:17 So, like, pay the $40,000 and you're done with it. 0.86
02:14:19 And I said, I am not fucking giving $40,000 to a stranger on the internet because they're claiming I owe them money. 0.69
02:14:25 It's like, well, it's a real collection agency. 0.97
02:14:27 And I said, send them an email and tell them I'll give them $5,000.
02:14:32 I'm sorry they collected a bad debt, but this should cover their time. 1.00
02:14:36 And they responded back with a, you know, polite go fuck yourself. 0.99
02:14:41 I said, call them on the phone and tell them that's all that's going to happen and we're done with this. 0.99
02:14:44 And again, my lawyers came back and said, at this point, we're spending money on lawyers, right?
02:14:48 They were like, look, you've already spent more money now on dealing with a problem, and they're not going to go away.
02:14:54 And we talked to them on the phone, and they're not interested.
02:14:56 And I said, okay, I'll do it.
02:14:59 Give me the phone.
02:15:01 Hey, in five minutes, she was apologizing to me and accepted my gracious $5,000. 0.95
02:15:08 So, why the fuck was I being advised by multiple lawyers to pay a debt I didn't owe when it was actually quite simple? 0.57
02:15:15 I get on the phone with this lady, and she says, I said, I was like, hi, I've been relayed this information from my lawyers. 0.97
02:15:25 I believe you're trying to collect a false debt against my company.
02:15:29 And she says, yes, you have a debt.
02:15:31 I think the number was around $80,000.
02:15:34 And this is money that you owe.
02:15:35 So we're calling to negotiate payment.
02:15:38 And I said, yeah.
02:15:39 I was like, well, obviously, I respect that you're trying to do your job, ma'am.
02:15:42 But understand this is not a legal debt.
02:15:45 I do not owe this money, and you are incorrect.
02:15:47 I am sorry that your company purchased a bad debt.
02:15:50 But we actually don't owe this money as our contract ended and we amicably disconnected.
02:15:55 In fact, they personally came out to disconnect for us, so there is no contract for you to collect upon.
02:15:59 And she said, Well, you can say that, but we have paperwork showing that you owe this money.
02:16:05 And so we are going to pursue that money with however we have to.
02:16:09 And I said, I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
02:16:12 I appreciate that you guys put work into this already and that it was a mistake.
02:16:17 So I'm going to write you a check for $5,000 that I don't have to write because I don't owe anybody money, but I think.
02:16:23 It'll help cover your time and I'll be a nice guy.
02:16:27 And she says to me, Mr. Poole, we can't accept $5,000 in an $80,000 debt.
02:16:33 And you need to consider how much this is going to cost you if you go to court.
02:16:38 And I said, Excuse me? 0.99
02:16:41 Did you just fucking threaten me? 0.98
02:16:44 And she goes, No, I'm just, no, not at all. 0.99
02:16:47 I'm saying that court costs money.
02:16:49 And I said, Yes, you are telling me that if I don't give you money, I don't owe you, you are going to bring me to court and try and drag more money out of me.
02:16:58 And she's like, that is not what I meant.
02:17:01 I just meant that court is much more expensive to fight.
02:17:04 And I said, agreed.
02:17:05 And that's why I offered you $5,000. 1.00
02:17:08 And then I played the ultimate fuck you card that I hate to play. 0.99
02:17:11 I said, ma'am, are you at your computer? 0.99
02:17:14 Here's what I want you to do I want you to Google Tim Pool.
02:17:17 That's who you're talking to right now.
02:17:19 And here's what I'm going to do I'm going to go on my show to 12 million followers tonight, and I'm going to name you personally and your company for trying to shake me down for $80,000, and then we'll have another conversation.
02:17:31 She goes quiet.
02:17:32 I hear typing.
02:17:33 And then, you know, she says, I'm so sorry about this.
02:17:37 $5,000 sounds wonderful.
02:17:38 Thank you for your time.
02:17:40 And I said, Great.
02:17:41 My team will reach out.
02:17:42 And the debt was cleared. 1.00
02:17:43 And I still lost $5,000 on this bullshit from these pieces of shit. 1.00
02:17:47 And I'll tell you why I'm so pissed off about it. 1.00
02:17:49 One, I love the story. 0.98
02:17:51 I shouldn't tell the story because it's like, you know, my lawyers are like, What the fuck are you doing telling the story on your show? 0.97
02:17:51 I'll probably get in trouble. 0.97
02:17:57 I have dealt with dozens of legal firms.
02:17:59 I have sued numerous companies. 1.00
02:18:02 Single time I've gone to lawyers, they've told me, sit down, shove the stick up your ass, and cry because you're a loser. 1.00
02:18:09 And I'm just like, go fuck yourself. 1.00
02:18:10 I am going nuclear and I will burn the whole fucking thing to the ground before I take advice that says lose. 1.00
02:18:17 And this is what I can't stand. 0.99
02:18:19 Don't get me wrong, I understand the system is much more complicated when it comes to the federal government than I realize.
02:18:24 But if you cannot effectively communicate to the people standing behind you or the people standing in front of you, ready to take a bullet for you, as to why the job must be done in this way, they will walk away from you.
02:18:38 And so, this is the frustration I have when I see what's going on.
02:18:43 In DC, and with my bias due to my personal experience with every single case, I had a lawsuit where my lawyers are like, the judge has ordered us to do this thing.
02:18:54 The defendants that I was suing were violating every court order, every single one. 0.99
02:19:00 And the judge was going, oh, you know, I mean, you know, and my lawyer's like, you better not cross that line, Tim, because if you violate the orders, and I'm like, what the fuck is this shit? 0.98
02:19:09 Well, so long story short, I'm going to personal details. 1.00
02:19:12 I said, go fuck yourself, went nuclear, and I got a half victory, more so than I would have gotten with these people breaking the rules. 0.99
02:19:18 So, my experience with lawyers is I'm going to take the path of least resistance. 1.00
02:19:24 We're all going to give up and you're going to lose.
02:19:26 And what happens is because Republicans are spineless, the Democrats are like, we are doing this because we believe in a different world.
02:19:35 And the Republicans are doing this, saying, we believe in the world we're in.
02:19:38 And the Democrats are like, I will murder to get what I want.
02:19:42 And the Republicans are like, whoa, slow down there.
02:19:45 So, what do you get?
02:19:46 Democrats are more like me in this regard.
02:19:48 Their lawyers say, We better be careful. 1.00
02:19:50 The Democrats go, Nah, fuck them. 1.00
02:19:52 I'll punch them in the nose until they bleed before I lay down. 1.00
02:19:56 And the Republicans are more like my lawyers saying, We don't really want to deal with it this way. 0.99
02:20:00 I am not convinced that Bill Pulte, I think, is one of the only pit bulls in the administration.
02:20:07 He's willing to pull up mortgage applications to try and go after these people.
02:20:12 But the Republicans are just not willing to do it.
02:20:14 And as you described, you've got the people slowing things down.
02:20:17 The Republican Party is rife with people.
02:20:19 Like my lawyers, just give the Democrats what they're asking for so they leave us alone.
02:20:24 You've got more people now in the administration who are obviously willing to go to war, which is fantastic, but I don't think they're willing to do what needs to be done to actually win the conflict they're facing.
02:20:37 That is, when a man has pulled a gun figuratively, the Democrats have pulled a gun on Trump, threatening to imprison him for the rest of his life, raiding his family's home, and the Republicans pulled out legal paperwork.
02:20:49 And the meme consistently is that Republicans.
02:20:52 Pull out strongly worded letters while they're staring down the barrel of the Democrats' gun.
02:20:57 So, you know, maybe there's more to it, and there probably is, but then my only response to that is the Republicans' leadership is the worst if you cannot rally the people.
02:21:12 Dan Bongino with the Epstein files, worst PR I've ever seen.
02:21:18 And look, I like Dan, I got no beef.
02:21:20 I'm just saying, Dan comes out and says, Epstein killed himself.
02:21:24 And you spiked the whole thing and you created this opportunity for Democrats.
02:21:29 When I've said it a million times, he could have literally just come out and said, the investigation is ongoing.
02:21:33 That's it.
02:21:34 And people would have dropped it.
02:21:36 So they have handled their PR miserably.
02:21:39 They have not been able to rally the supporters of the coalition that they had in the midterms.
02:21:44 I'm sorry, in the general.
02:21:45 And now the midterms are here.
02:21:47 The libertarians have broken.
02:21:48 Many moderates are breaking.
02:21:50 And you've got a splinter faction, the Republican Party, that wants to see them lose.
02:21:53 So anyway, I'm done ranting.
02:21:54 I don't know.
02:21:55 I mean, look, you're saying, Tim, you're saying what most people feel, and you're saying there's a reason why I'm outside of government now because I did what I thought I could do and it was time to get out.
02:22:06 I will say this.
02:22:08 What Trump represents is a break, again, from my experience of 25 years of politics.
02:22:13 But we've never had a Republican leader do what he's done.
02:22:17 So shift the entire focus of the Republican Party and governing in a way that has been progress.
02:22:26 You know, America First is one way to say it.
02:22:28 I would say, like, I was on the Republican National Committee in 2013 through 15, and you couldn't be against free trade and be in good standing because there were about five of us that were, you know, opposing free trade. 0.69
02:22:40 Immigration, same thing.
02:22:41 Trump moved that whole party. 1.00
02:22:43 And Trump did more in a single stroke of his pen by pardoning all the J Sixers. 1.00
02:22:48 I can tell you, everybody was against that, the political class. 1.00
02:22:51 Yep.
02:22:52 And Trump did it.
02:22:52 So I'm not saying it's enough.
02:22:55 Pardon Ross Ulbricht as well, which is.
02:22:56 Yeah, Ross Ulbricht.
02:22:57 I mean, yeah.
02:22:58 And also the cops.
02:22:59 And also, I mean, you can go down the list.
02:23:01 The progress is real and it's too slow.
02:23:04 And I agree with everything you said in your rant in terms of the idea of the Democrats are playing for keeps and we're debating.
02:23:12 What would happen if.
02:23:14 A, let's just say, preliminary case argument was put together on malicious prosecution from Jack Smith.
02:23:21 Right.
02:23:22 And then Donald Trump did a press briefing definitively stating it was criminal malicious prosecution by a rogue element in the government.
02:23:33 Just say it.
02:23:34 What's stopping him from just saying it?
02:23:36 Nothing, huh?
02:23:36 So why isn't he?
02:23:37 Well, perception is reality.
02:23:38 Yeah.
02:23:39 I mean, I have argued myself what you're saying is you forget about whether you actually ever get the prosecution.
02:23:47 Just.
02:23:47 Say what the reality is, what the facts are, and drive the agenda and see where it goes.
02:23:52 And I did that my time in office.
02:23:54 Yeah.
02:23:55 So I.
02:23:55 Well, and they stopped you.
02:23:57 Like, they didn't.
02:23:58 I mean, I'm not spending my time worrying about it, but yes, that's right.
02:24:00 I mean, that is that no one was.
02:24:02 I mean, look, Tom Tillis stopped me as U.S. Attorney.
02:24:04 Well, we were taking on Schumer.
02:24:07 I was taking on Georgetown.
02:24:08 I was taking on Millie.
02:24:10 I was looking at, you know, the auto pen.
02:24:13 Why aren't we challenging the auto pen?
02:24:15 Right?
02:24:15 Yep.
02:24:16 I mean, there's no reason not to.
02:24:18 So, the point, but my point, Tim, is to come back and I mean, just tell you again in politics, it's different than, well, it's not different.
02:24:27 It's like life.
02:24:29 But you can make progress.
02:24:31 You will never make as much progress as you want.
02:24:33 That's the reality. 0.70
02:24:36 And look, I think they're going to kill us. 1.00
02:24:37 They're going to kill you and kill me if they win in 29. 1.00
02:24:41 I mean, 28. 1.00
02:24:41 I do think that. 1.00
02:24:42 So, I'm much more aware, as you are, of what's at stake.
02:24:46 And I'm stunned that our fellow conservatives and Republicans don't realize that.
02:24:51 I really am.
02:24:52 Jimmy Raskin in Congress accused me of rallying people for January 6th, which I did not do. 0.96
02:25:01 I was reading an article from Fox News where I said, Holy crap, this is going to get crazy.
02:25:05 If people come down here, Trump's telling people to come down to protest on January 6th. 0.98
02:25:08 That's nuts.
02:25:10 I actually canceled our plans to be down there because we thought it was going to get crazy.
02:25:15 Raskin plays a video of me alongside a bunch of others saying these people were encouraging those to insurrect.
02:25:23 Merrick Garland.
02:25:24 Falsely accused me of being funded by Russians, resulting in endless death threats. 0.99
02:25:30 I'm just some fucking guy on the internet. 1.00
02:25:32 This is crazy. 0.99
02:25:33 They've never come to me and tried to recruit me.
02:25:36 I've never had some Democrat say, Tim, listen, we need your support on this one.
02:25:40 Here's why we think Trump is. 1.00
02:25:41 No, no, they just literally said, fuck Tim Poole, burn him to the ground and make him suffer. 1.00
02:25:45 Never even fucking met these people. 1.00
02:25:47 Literally, I, in my bedroom, made YouTube videos. 0.99
02:25:51 They could have just said, YouTube banned Tim Poole. 0.97
02:25:54 They could have just fucking done that and been done with it. 0.98
02:25:56 Leave my reputation alone. 0.99
02:25:58 Let me go get a job at a movie theater.
02:25:59 No. 1.00
02:26:00 They said we want to shove a pipe up his ass and make him suffer for no fucking reason. 1.00
02:26:04 So, I expect when Donald Trump gets his home raided by these people, he's going to be like, fuck you, it's time for war. 1.00
02:26:13 Instead, I'm left feeling like a random guy on the internet expressing his opinion is unjustly and unfairly targeted by these psychopaths in government, and there's not a single fucking advocate for me. 1.00
02:26:27 And I'm saying that very personally because obviously most people, the J6ers obviously feel it more than I do. 1.00
02:26:32 They mocked me and defamed me, they put these people in solitary confinement. 1.00
02:26:36 So, I appreciate that Trump did that.
02:26:38 I genuinely do.
02:26:39 But when it comes to doing everything they can do, Trump certainly is not doing it.
02:26:44 And when it comes to the war with Iran, it's a question of like, how is that helping this country?
02:26:49 No, no, no. 0.74
02:26:50 I can go through all the scenarios on seizing Venezuela, pacifying the Caribbean, oil exports in the Gulf, shutting down the Strait of Hormuz. 0.94
02:26:59 We're going up against China.
02:27:00 If Trump is going to prioritize foreign policy over the collapsing internal politics because of the deep state, then he's going to lose.
02:27:08 That's just it.
02:27:09 He's lost the anti war libertarians.
02:27:09 He's going to lose.
02:27:12 The Epstein debacle has given Democrats a weapon against them that shouldn't exist.
02:27:16 And he's not stood up for himself publicly as it pertains to the weaponization of politics in his first.
02:27:23 I mean, don't get me wrong.
02:27:25 Personally, he said these people are crooks, but he's not done the procedural things he could do.
02:27:30 My view is my only conclusion in the day is that Trump is the deep state.
02:27:34 They're all the deep state.
02:27:35 They're all a part of the game.
02:27:37 And they're just pretending to be at war for the purpose of keeping Americans.
02:27:40 This is the conspiracy theory.
02:27:41 Keep Americans divided so they bicker amongst themselves, and you keep getting your wars.
02:27:45 The Democrats are going to come in and keep doing the same exact thing.
02:27:49 And so it's demoralizing to be at this point to do what Tate correctly called the land acknowledgement.
02:27:57 Like Trump has done good things, we all get it.
02:28:00 But then to be faced with the economic failures, the diesel shortage, the gas prices, all of these problems into a midterm.
02:28:09 If the deep state is burning this country to the ground, If they're putting innocent people in prison, if they're raiding the president's home, I don't understand why we've prioritized going to war for as long as we have.
02:28:21 And that's demoralizing.
02:28:22 Well, I mean, look, I'm not here to defend that.
02:28:25 And that's not my space.
02:28:27 I want to go back for a second to DOJ.
02:28:29 The thing I think that you can help with, you mentioned Pulte.
02:28:31 Pulte and I worked together on Tish James, on Cook, on a number of things, and with limited success, right?
02:28:39 And the thing that I think people have to understand is when you have a platform, the pressure you can put, It is important to put.
02:28:47 In other words, I'm not asking you to say it's all great.
02:28:50 I'm asking you to say, good job on J6, good job on Ulbricht, good job on this and that.
02:28:55 But you have to fight differently.
02:28:57 I agree with you.
02:28:59 And I wonder if after the midterms, I mean, if the president will change his mindset because, you know, I mean, look, I like that cash.
02:29:09 When I was U.S. Attorney, we cracked down on crime in the District of Columbia because I was doing ride alongs with the cops and I was seeing what a dump it was.
02:29:17 So that's all good.
02:29:18 But it doesn't really move me to hear that our crime statistics are better.
02:29:22 It doesn't excite me.
02:29:23 And they keep pushing that.
02:29:25 Well, those cops got caught flubbing the numbers.
02:29:28 Right.
02:29:28 Well, but they were flubbing the numbers there.
02:29:29 And it's like when they tell me, now believe statistics.
02:29:32 They were lying to us before, but now believe statistics.
02:29:35 Hey, look, my poll is good.
02:29:36 Believe my poll now, finally, because it's good.
02:29:38 I don't believe any of it.
02:29:39 I don't believe any statistics.
02:29:40 I don't believe the polls.
02:29:41 I would just say this if you believe we're at war with these people, you would behave differently than we have.
02:29:48 I will concede that.
02:29:49 That's how I feel too.
02:29:51 And the only question then is if you know politics, you know, I worked for Phyllis Schlafly.
02:29:55 I often tell you, we used to talk, you know, you have to do what's possible, you have to find what's possible.
02:30:00 I banged my head against the wall for 16 of the 18 months.
02:30:04 And my assessment is this is what I can do best to be out here to do more.
02:30:09 But the fact is that we've got to demand that people see what's happening.
02:30:13 And look, here's how I'll finish.
02:30:15 It doesn't make me excited to say it.
02:30:18 When Charlie Kirk was shot and killed, it should have been a wake up call.
02:30:22 It should have never, ever had to change.
02:30:25 The idea that we celebrate his anniversary of his death and talk about him as opposed to sort of a dramatic change in American life.
02:30:32 Is haunting to me.
02:30:34 That's the one that says to me, wait, these people are never going to believe that we're at war with them.
02:30:40 On the surface, it feels, you know, like my attitude on most things, like I don't have access to classified information.
02:30:50 We only think we know what's going on with the war in Iran.
02:30:53 Everybody's got their theories. 0.99
02:30:54 I think my theory is more likely correct than everybody else's.
02:30:58 When you take a look, I'll give you the simple version.
02:30:59 When you take a look at every action taken by the administration in this term, Again, pacifying the Caribbean, the criminals, you're clearing transport lanes, Panama Canal negotiations, Greenland for Northwest Passage, exports in the Gulf, Venezuela, Cuba, shutting the Strait of Hormuz down.
02:31:16 It really does look like an intentional attack on the oil system, recentering oil production and exporting through the United States as opposed to the Gulf and the OPEC nations, cutting off China from 50% of their oil.
02:31:29 That's my theory.
02:31:30 Maybe I'm wrong.
02:31:31 What I can say is when it comes to domestic stuff, I can tell you.
02:31:36 On the surface, factually, they're not doing everything they can to win this.
02:31:42 So, my only conclusion is they must be in on it because there are things that I know they're capable of doing that they could do that they don't do.
02:31:51 Like, I'll keep it simple like things that Democrats do, putting Steve Bannon in jail.
02:31:57 Republicans could easily do any one of those things, they don't.
02:32:00 So, I'm like, they must all be in on it together because holding someone in contempt, like Comey or something, is really easy to do.
02:32:09 But they won't even do that.
02:32:10 The PR stuff is the easiest stuff.
02:32:13 The Democrats come out and lie, like Raskin lied about me.
02:32:16 They made up fake charges against two random individuals in Eastern Europe no one's ever heard of, so they could falsely accuse me, Dave Rubin, and Benny Johnson of being funded by the Russians, despite the fact Dave Rubin's show was watching viral clips of animals slipping on banana peels.
02:32:30 Our show was talking about weird nonsense like flat Earth and aliens, but that was one big psyop.
02:32:36 And that's why after the election they dropped the case, just disappeared.
02:32:39 Because it was all fake.
02:32:41 And we don't see that from the Republicans at all.
02:32:46 So they could absolutely be doing things in turn that are not even difficult, not even a challenge, and they won't.
02:32:52 They won't hold one person in contempt.
02:32:55 Why is that?
02:32:57 They could put somebody in jail for three months, even symbolically.
02:33:00 They won't do it.
02:33:02 Well, the practical answer is you wouldn't get that through the court system because the court system is so stacked.
02:33:07 But I mean, D.C. is so bad against us.
02:33:09 But my answer to that would be we ought to go to war with them.
02:33:11 I tried to.
02:33:12 I tried to go to war with the judges immediately.
02:33:14 Got bar complaints against me from two different sides.
02:33:17 Well, yeah, but you got to play underhand if they're playing underhanded.
02:33:19 My point is Republicans and Trump have been unwilling to do anything untoward.
02:33:24 The Democrats are like, all is fair and love is war.
02:33:28 And as you mentioned, like the rules of engagement, they're armed, we're not.
02:33:31 That's a choice.
02:33:32 Democrats never told you to lay down your weapons.
02:33:35 Republicans laid down their weapons and said, no, no, no, we're not doing this because we're better men.
02:33:39 And the Democrats were like, thank you, I guess.
02:33:42 Lock them up, boys.
02:33:43 And the Republicans smiled as they were beaten with an inch of their lives.
02:33:48 So, well, we'll see.
02:33:49 I mean, I appreciate the conversation, though, but we do got to grab these callers.
02:33:53 So we'll start with our good friend, Slow Discord.
02:33:58 Gonefall.
02:34:00 What's up, Gonefall?
02:34:03 If Discord works.
02:34:06 There you go.
02:34:07 What's up, brother?
02:34:08 What's up, man?
02:34:10 I've got a really important question that's been going around the Discord as of late.
02:34:17 It's a very serious one.
02:34:21 So the question is. 1.00
02:34:23 Is it gay to hold hands with a homie? 1.00
02:34:27 Yes. 1.00
02:34:28 Yes.
02:34:31 I'd say so. 1.00
02:34:32 Is it gay to hold hands with who? 1.00
02:34:34 A homie. 1.00
02:34:34 A homie. 1.00
02:34:35 All right. 0.97
02:34:36 I like that meme where it's like, don't forget to kiss your homies goodnight. 0.88
02:34:42 It is. 1.00
02:34:43 It is gay to hold hands with your homie. 0.98
02:34:45 There could be some nuance here. 0.98
02:34:47 Are you asking for a friend?
02:34:48 There could be some nuance.
02:34:49 I mean, if he's dying of cancer, it's not.
02:34:52 That's what I go to.
02:34:53 I'm like, what if it's like a dire situation?
02:34:56 Yeah, if your homie's on his deathbed.
02:34:59 And he reaches out his hand and you grab his hand and you're like, you'll always be my brother.
02:35:04 And he's like, he smiles at you and then you hear like he flatlines as like it takes him.
02:35:10 That's actually the manliest thing a person could do. 0.98
02:35:12 But if you're like going for a walk in the park and he looks at you and you reach out his hand and you hold it as you walk together, yeah, that's gay. 0.98
02:35:12 Yeah. 0.98
02:35:18 Yeah, that's probably gay. 1.00
02:35:20 Yeah, I think there's certain situations in which it would be probably the best case scenario. 1.00
02:35:25 I just don't know.
02:35:26 Especially if it's laced fingers. 1.00
02:35:28 That's really gay. 1.00
02:35:29 And context matters too because if you're doing like a three legged race, You got to hold hands. 0.99
02:35:29 Yeah. 0.99
02:35:34 That's not gay. 1.00
02:35:35 It's like you and your buddy grab hands and you put the one leg in the beanbag. 1.00
02:35:38 You know that one?
02:35:39 It's the classic, like, office photo of the guy helping the other guy.
02:35:39 Yeah.
02:35:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:35:43 Holding hands while you're latching onto him before he falls to his death is super manly. 1.00
02:35:47 Well, I don't want to be gay. 0.99
02:35:49 Is it functional or is it for intimacy? 1.00
02:35:56 These are the questions you're here for, aren't they? 0.99
02:35:59 Well, the intimacy one, yes, is gay. 0.92
02:36:02 But, like, you know, if it's functional, like, hey, you know, I'm grabbing his hand because he's, you know, needs a hand getting up the, you know, the rock that we're climbing, then, then no. 0.80
02:36:13 If it's like acting upon attraction or facilitating sodomy, I think we could probably say no.
02:36:13 Yeah.
02:36:19 But I think there's an array of possibilities for instances in which it wouldn't be gay. 0.99
02:36:24 And I think that's the more thought provoking. 0.97
02:36:27 I think we've outlined a lot of these, you know, potential scenarios deathbed, rock climbing, you know, walking in a really good meal.
02:36:35 Really good meal.
02:36:35 Three.
02:36:36 You got to hold hands after to celebrate.
02:36:39 I think it's, you know, When I was a child.
02:36:42 So the question actually is not always.
02:36:44 Well, what if you're hostage?
02:36:45 The answer is not always.
02:36:47 Actually, that's a really funny point. 0.99
02:36:49 It is not always gay to hold a hand with a homie. 1.00
02:36:52 There are circumstances, like he's dying of cancer. 0.99
02:36:55 Caveats?
02:36:56 Yeah.
02:36:56 You know?
02:36:57 Well, and also it's a question of how long are you holding? 0.95
02:36:59 You're holding a hand, and he still says, like right before he goes, he's like, you're gay. 0.79
02:37:06 I think he's asking this because he's being held hostage right now.
02:37:08 It sounds like he has a whole lot of time.
02:37:10 Yeah, are you being held hostage right now?
02:37:14 Yeah.
02:37:15 Yeah.
02:37:15 There we go.
02:37:16 Gotten to the bottom of it.
02:37:18 Well, there you go. 0.99
02:37:18 Some sort of sodomite kingpin has pulled up in some gay bar in San Francisco or something. 0.99
02:37:25 I don't know what's going on. 0.78
02:37:27 To answer your question, it's nuanced.
02:37:30 There is no good answer.
02:37:33 There is no good answer.
02:37:35 If you're just hanging out with your boys at their house, yes. 1.00
02:37:38 I would say that's probably pretty gay. 1.00
02:37:41 Yeah. 0.97
02:37:45 You got to answer your question.
02:37:46 Do you got a follow up there?
02:37:50 I think these are great answers.
02:37:50 What?
02:37:53 You're very muffled.
02:37:53 I wish there was something I could do about your audio, sir.
02:37:56 I'm just concerned, you know, friends in the Navy, and they say it's not gay, you know, like to frolick around, hold hands, and hold in bed. 0.80
02:38:07 Yeah. 0.93
02:38:08 If you're in the Navy, hold hands, that's definitely.
02:38:10 Yeah, the Navy is where it's like no holds barred.
02:38:13 Yeah. 1.00
02:38:13 If you're in the Navy, you're gay. 1.00
02:38:19 Jack Misova could be the expert on this, I think. 1.00
02:38:21 That's right.
02:38:22 I have to have him weigh in.
02:38:22 Yeah.
02:38:24 I do like how all the different branches rib on each other, though.
02:38:26 My favorite was when these guys I knew in the Army called the Air Force the Chair Force, but I guess everyone calls it that.
02:38:31 Yeah.
02:38:32 The Chair Force.
02:38:35 Yeah.
02:38:36 Anyway, you want to shout anything out, brother?
02:38:39 Oh, shout out to the Discord.
02:38:41 I love them all and all the, you know, dormies and all the regulars.
02:38:45 I love them all.
02:38:46 They're all cool.
02:38:47 Do you hold hands with them all?
02:38:49 Do you join the Discord?
02:38:50 It could change your life.
02:38:53 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:38:53 Right on.
02:38:54 Thanks, man.
02:38:55 That was a real, yeah.
02:38:56 All right.
02:38:58 Philosophical conundrum he presented us.
02:39:00 Yeah.
02:39:01 Actually, it got more, it got deeper than I thought.
02:39:04 Fire God Vulcan.
02:39:08 What's up, Fire God?
02:39:09 Fire God Vulcan.
02:39:10 What's up, man?
02:39:11 Yeah, that's.
02:39:13 Sorry, I'm that white gamer that, you know, is on welfare, even though I own a house and two children.
02:39:18 You crushed that acting gig, you crushed your SAG card, should be coming soon because that was fantastic.
02:39:25 Well, I got a hypothetical question for you guys, and then I got a.
02:39:29 Another question and then a statement afterwards.
02:39:31 My hypothetical, it's 1950, right?
02:39:34 We just won World War II, five years out.
02:39:36 We are at the peak of American power.
02:39:40 And a smaller country, let's say like Canada, decides to send agents into our country to assassinate our president.
02:39:47 What would be the reaction of the United States population at that time?
02:39:52 War?
02:39:53 Yeah.
02:39:55 We would just wipe Canada's military and politics out, right?
02:40:00 The political faction.
02:40:01 Yeah, I mean, well, Canada barely has a military as it is, but yeah.
02:40:05 So, like the explanation if a very powerful country allows another country to try to assassinate their leader, basically, if they allow it, their power would wane over time.
02:40:17 Yeah, I've made this point quite a bit.
02:40:20 Any nation that tries to kill our leader, we are obligated to go to war with them.
02:40:24 If they're, you know, that's just it.
02:40:27 There you go. 0.98
02:40:28 So, Iran tried to kill our president. 0.98
02:40:29 Correct. 0.75
02:40:33 So, we shouldn't be obligated to go to war with them. 0.97
02:40:36 Yeah, if the argument was after an attempt on the life of our president, we bombed the fuck and wiped out their 50 top leadership, I would say the war is over. 0.98
02:40:44 They could leave. 0.98
02:40:45 Yeah, but it's not.
02:40:45 They're still fighting.
02:40:47 I know.
02:40:47 Why?
02:40:47 We got to wipe that ideology out that would try to kill our president.
02:40:50 Well, see, that's, I think, when you kill 50 of the top brass, it's a question of like, what was the purpose of the war?
02:41:00 We wiped out the top brass that.
02:41:02 I think, you know?
02:41:03 I think the weakness with Trump is he's trying to make an excuse when he can keep it simplistic.
02:41:10 If he did from the get go.
02:41:13 But now that, again, the leadership is wiped out, what's the justification for an ongoing war?
02:41:19 They're still fighting back.
02:41:21 Their ideology is still there.
02:41:23 But you're not getting rid of ideology.
02:41:26 Only occupation over like six generations gets rid of ideology.
02:41:30 And even then, look at Ireland.
02:41:32 They resurrected Gaelic. 1.00
02:41:34 Look at the Jews. 1.00
02:41:34 They brought back Hebrew. 1.00
02:41:37 Yeah, but I'm not saying control Iran or occupy it. 0.99
02:41:41 Obviously, I would want a new regime.
02:41:43 But you need to take that regime out because even though the leadership was wiped out, they replaced themselves.
02:41:48 I know, but what are you going to do?
02:41:49 You're going to just keep bombing every single time? 0.95
02:41:51 Like at a certain point, you're like, we killed them all.
02:41:54 I think that's what he's getting at. 0.97
02:41:55 Just keep bombing.
02:41:55 Just keep bombing.
02:41:57 Mow the lawn. 0.99
02:41:58 Take the IRGC out.
02:41:59 Just wipe them out.
02:42:01 Allow the people I've run around to take control.
02:42:03 Offer trade deals and friendship with them and leave.
02:42:08 I mean.
02:42:09 Well, that would require Trump to be actually going after them, but instead he's just in the Strait of Hormuz.
02:42:14 And this is the issue.
02:42:15 I think our politics and the people in this country have their patriotism weakened to the point where they don't accept. simplistic ideals to actually do what needs to be done in order to keep the power in this country.
02:42:26 Yep. 0.99
02:42:27 Also, I don't know if we have the capability to take out Iran. 0.95
02:42:30 There's also a large portion of the, there's a large portion of the population, or at least a large portion of the Republican Party that is far more isolationist and thinks that the United States should not be so aggressive in influencing other, other countries' political, you know, I agree with that 100%. 0.87
02:42:50 I am more or less an isolationist, but if another country tries to kill our leader, Wipe them out.
02:42:58 Yeah, I mean, okay. 0.61
02:43:02 That's a legitimate take, I guess, you know? 0.72
02:43:05 I mean, otherwise, our power would slowly wane over time if we allow it to happen over, you know, because they're going to be like, well, Iran's still standing, even though they tried to kill his leader. 0.95
02:43:13 Let's all try to kill their leader. 0.99
02:43:16 That's a legitimate argument, yeah, I think. 1.00
02:43:19 So, you're not going to get it.
02:43:22 That's all really I wanted to say.
02:43:24 I'm just sad that the patriotism in this country has dropped down because.
02:43:28 People are complaining about the economy and stuff like that, but I'm sure the people in World War II had a bad economy during World War II.
02:43:34 Everything went more expensive. 0.62
02:43:35 That's what happens during war.
02:43:36 But if you have a good reason to fight, and this is the problem, our political class is not giving good reasons to fight, then we should be willing to sacrifice just like our military is sacrificing. 0.77
02:43:50 We didn't join World War II until the Japanese bombed us. 0.95
02:43:53 I mean, it's like completely incomparable with Iran, where, I mean, Iran, like, whether you're for the war or not, I mean, We were doing a tango with them for the last 50 years versus World War II, which was like. 0.96
02:44:07 I agree, the Japanese bombed us and killed our military soldiers. 0.96
02:44:10 Who's the head of our military?
02:44:12 Pete Hegseth?
02:44:15 No, the President of the United States.
02:44:16 Okay.
02:44:18 Yeah, but again, I mean, it's.
02:44:23 In order to garner national support for a war, it's not as simple as that.
02:44:29 Pearl Harbor had a massive.
02:44:32 It used to be.
02:44:34 If Iran presented the hypothetical in 1950, if Canada tried to assassinate our president, what would we do?
02:44:41 We would wage war because the patriotism during that time was a lot higher than it is now. 0.50
02:44:46 I mean, if you added it, it's a declaration of war.
02:44:49 You tried to kill our president.
02:44:51 But these are vast, you're comparing it to World War II, and it's like, it's just vastly different.
02:44:56 I mean, the context.
02:44:57 Comparing to after World War II.
02:45:01 I mean, again, if an Iranian agent got up and took a pot shot at Trump, and this was well documented, this was put in the press, that'd be one thing.
02:45:08 But you're talking about a foiled conspiracy.
02:45:11 I mean, there are 30 foiled conspiracies on the president probably every year.
02:45:14 I mean, this was the case even under Obama.
02:45:16 I mean, you don't like it.
02:45:18 Two of them were caught and arrested and tried.
02:45:21 Yeah, it's correct. 0.89
02:45:22 But, okay, to the point of is this grounds for war?
02:45:27 I mean, that's a completely different situation.
02:45:30 Because, I mean, again, the reason we're going to war with Iran is not because they tried to assassinate the president and the war is deeply unpopular.
02:45:39 Again, because the things that were precursors to World War II were vastly different than the precursors to the Iran War.
02:45:45 A lot of people.
02:45:47 My hypothetical was after World War II.
02:45:50 Again, if Canada, I mean, but that's just irrelevant.
02:45:52 I mean, if Canada, but Canada, why would, I mean, that's just, it's completely. 0.53
02:45:56 The statement is if you allow a country to try to assassinate your president and you don't respond in kind, such as war and wipe that country out, other countries are going to do it.
02:46:08 Your power would wane over time.
02:46:09 That's just not, but that's not true at all.
02:46:11 I mean, what do you want him to do?
02:46:12 He's killed all the top brass of the IRGC. 0.68
02:46:15 We bombed them last summer. 0.97
02:46:16 We're bombing them again. 1.00
02:46:18 I mean, again, like the IRGC. 0.62
02:46:21 Yeah, we've taken out all their top brass.
02:46:23 I mean, I don't know what more you want the president to do here.
02:46:26 I mean, again, regime change is not going to happen.
02:46:27 It's never going to happen in a million years.
02:46:30 Does the IRGC still exist?
02:46:31 Maybe in a million, at least.
02:46:33 Well, if there's like a heat death or something.
02:46:35 If there's the heat death.
02:46:37 Yeah, but this is just such a sloppy way to justify this war, which there's a reason why the Trump administration backed away from this talking point because they realized, no, it's completely incomparable to the past.
02:46:49 I mean, from the perspective from a lot of American people, they're saying, well, we've been. 0.65
02:46:53 Having this tango with Iran, like, of course, we killed their leader. 0.82
02:46:57 So, of course, there's going to be this tango. 1.00
02:47:00 But you're right, it's a sloppy way.
02:47:02 But my proof was that I asked all of you in the hypothetical after World War II, when our patriotism was at its peak, we've all decided to wipe out the country to try to assassinate our president.
02:47:13 Now, there's so much politics involved and so much weakness and patriotism in this country that we have to come up with all these different reasons rather than keeping the simplistic view.
02:47:23 We need to maintain our world power.
02:47:25 No country needs to threaten us. 0.99
02:47:27 If you threaten us, such as trying to kill our president, kill our soldiers, or anything like that, we come after you and we wipe you out. 0.82
02:47:35 But part of the reason there's not this drum up of patriots and this demand for war is because people of your ilk squandered all of that in the global war on terror. 0.97
02:47:43 So, like, a lot of people are not going to be super fired up about a Middle Eastern intervention because we already did this two times.
02:47:50 So, it's like, I agree, in a vacuum, this should be the response, but there's so much extra context where it's not the same as if.
02:47:57 Canada, who was an ally in 1950, abruptly assassinated or attempted to assassinate a president.
02:48:02 That's just, it's a completely different context from a global adversary.
02:48:06 We're coming out of two wars that were deeply unpopular.
02:48:08 The neocons squandered all of their political capital on it and they're on the way out.
02:48:12 I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's just incomparable.
02:48:15 I, I saw you trying to like set this hypothetical up with, with your 1950 example, but it's just, you're comparing apples to oranges here.
02:48:22 I mean, these are two completely different scenarios.
02:48:24 Again, if, well, you're right.
02:48:25 If Norway turned around and if the Norwegians turned around and tried to assassinate Trump, it'd be like, I think the Americans.
02:48:31 Probably would be okay with glassing them, but it's so inconceivable because Norway, like, why would they're an ally, you know, they're an et cetera?
02:48:38 It's like the same thing. 0.80
02:48:40 Hold on, I want to get this right.
02:48:42 You think an ally would garner more attack than our adversary?
02:48:48 That was your hypothetical, where you're saying Canada is stabbing us in the back and it's something that assassinated a president.
02:48:54 I was proving if we're willing to do that to our ally, why aren't we doing it to someone we don't like?
02:48:59 We just have, dude.
02:49:01 How many servicemen are dead?
02:49:03 How many officials have we killed?
02:49:04 How much money have we wasted?
02:49:06 We're going to lose the midterms because of this.
02:49:08 What more do you want, dude?
02:49:10 That's the problem.
02:49:11 We're losing the midterm because of this, because the politics and the patriotism in this country has gone so bad that we are not willing to accept simplistic reasons to maintain the authority and power in this world.
02:49:24 But part of the reason it's down is because your ilk won't take responsibility that you've just led us into these countless quagmires where, yeah, a lot of people aren't too thrilled about this.
02:49:34 I'm an isolationist.
02:49:35 You're an isolationist advocating for the Iran war?
02:49:37 That makes zero sense.
02:49:39 I'm advocating that we have to respond to the assassination attempt of our president.
02:49:43 You're the only person in the country that thinks that because everyone in the Trump administration that's beating the war drum for Iran is completely separate.
02:49:50 My explanation is Trump is a politician, so he needs to say what he can say to get as much support as he can.
02:49:56 I'm saying this country has weakened its patriotism, that he has to do that rather than stating this is a simplistic reason that in order for our country to maintain its freedom and power, we cannot let our adversaries attempt to kill our presidents.
02:50:10 I mean, I think he's tried to outline up the outside of the war.
02:50:14 The only argument is Trump blew up all of their top brass.
02:50:17 That's it.
02:50:19 You're not going to change their ideology because you're looking at 12 to 15 million people that are advocating for it.
02:50:26 And you only do that through a generational occupation.
02:50:29 If you're not going to do a generational occupation, blow up their leadership and go home.
02:50:33 Yeah, it's just there's more and more and more demands.
02:50:36 And it's just like we've already expended so much to carry this war out for a very narrow class of people that actually care about it.
02:50:43 And it's still not enough. 0.98
02:50:44 There's lots of people in Iran.
02:50:46 There's the IRGC and there's the original Republic of Iran that are not the IRGC that believe the IRGC is an invading force. 0.99
02:50:53 And they supported their king, and this other group came in, and they're Islamic jihadists and Muslims that tried to spread this religion across their entire country and they corrupted the country, right? 0.82
02:51:04 I mean, that sentiment is common in the diaspora, so we engage with that more. 1.00
02:51:04 Yes. 1.00
02:51:08 But I keep getting these people in my replies, and I'm like, no, that reality is not the reality in Iran.
02:51:15 Like, our bombings of Iran have actually created a rally around the flag moment in Iran, where like this dynamic, yes, that's the case in Los Angeles.
02:51:24 Yes, the Persian community there are monarchist or whatever, but But the reality on the ground in Iran, it's not happening. 0.52
02:51:31 I mean, we did everything we could to create room for them to carry out a revolution, and it just hasn't happened.
02:51:35 The opposite happened.
02:51:36 Aren't we currently seeing splinter cells fighting against their own military?
02:51:40 You're seeing ethnic minorities who have always battled with the central government continue to battle with the central government. 0.61
02:51:46 I mean, there's limited skirmishes that they can put down pretty quickly.
02:51:50 Again, it's not going to happen.
02:51:52 I mean, again, you have Israel fanatics, you have Iranian monarchists, and then you have neocons, and all three of them keep demanding more from us.
02:52:03 And we're saying, no, we're sick of it.
02:52:07 Again, because of these fantasies that never actually play out. 0.88
02:52:09 Oh, we're going to go into Iraq and we're going to create this.
02:52:12 Didn't happen. 1.00
02:52:13 Iraq's in Iran's pocket. 1.00
02:52:14 Now we're going to go to Afghanistan. 0.86
02:52:16 We're going to create this because of a liberal democracy. 0.91
02:52:19 And then why do we need to occupy?
02:52:21 I don't understand why we need to occupy.
02:52:23 We can take a country, wipe out the bad guy, and give it to the people who want the country and say, we're your friends.
02:52:28 Here's a trade agreement.
02:52:29 We tried that and it didn't work. 0.64
02:52:31 I mean, that was the whole idea behind the Iran war is that we take out all their top brass and then these people rise up, and it hasn't happened. 0.71
02:52:39 It was a failure. 0.69
02:52:39 It was a mistake. 0.69
02:52:40 And we got to admit that.
02:52:42 Yeah, because the IRGC still exists. 0.86
02:52:46 We killed 50 plus of their officials.
02:52:49 They just replaced them with other people that agree. 0.99
02:52:50 I think people are underestimating how many people in Iran are still.
02:52:54 Plus, if the U.S. official gets wiped out, does the U.S. not exist anymore?
02:53:00 No, because we have a chain of command.
02:53:01 They have a chain of command.
02:53:01 Again, if Iran were to try and pursue a regime change in the United States, that would take.
02:53:05 50 plus officials being wiped out is not going to change that. 1.00
02:53:11 That's why it was so stupid to pursue regime change. 0.96
02:53:16 Well, no, what I'm saying is we're not doing enough and quickly enough to just wipe out the whole IGC. 0.99
02:53:21 Just take them out.
02:53:22 Well, that mentality is going to continue to cost us elections.
02:53:22 Okay.
02:53:25 It's going to cost us the midterms and it's going to cost us more elections when, again, the whole impetus behind Trump was to prevent these sort of quagmires from happening. 0.95
02:53:32 I mean, again, it's just fantasy land that we're going to go into Iran. 0.73
02:53:36 And kill a bunch of their guys, and then suddenly, like, it's a Marvel movie, all the locals are going to rise up. 0.51
02:53:40 It didn't happen. 0.96
02:53:41 It was a failure.
02:53:43 So you're saying we should allow an ideology that's willing to try to assassinate our president to still exist?
02:53:49 No, I got to push back on Tate.
02:53:50 Tate, you're wrong.
02:53:52 In the Marvel movie in Age of Ultron, the locals were throwing rocks at the Avengers.
02:53:56 They hated the Avengers.
02:53:57 Yeah.
02:53:58 They didn't rise up.
02:53:59 We also, I mean, like, this is part of geopolitics, it's part of brinksmanship.
02:53:59 Yeah.
02:54:04 I mean, North Korea exists, China.
02:54:06 Like, we can't just, because there's an ideology on Earth that we disagree with, go scorched Earth and destroy them.
02:54:11 I mean, it's.
02:54:13 You can't?
02:54:13 We tried.
02:54:14 It didn't work very well.
02:54:15 I mean, eventually you just got to get a little bit like, you know, spheres of influence, et cetera.
02:54:20 I mean, kind of go back to the basics on geopolitics. 0.80
02:54:24 Like the North Koreans. 0.97
02:54:25 I mean, I'm sure the North Koreans have probably tried to drop a piano on our president or something. 1.00
02:54:30 And they still exist. 0.99
02:54:32 Trump's quite respected.
02:54:32 They allowed Trump to cross their border individually alone.
02:54:35 So I'm not sure about that one.
02:54:37 Yeah.
02:54:37 I mean, because again, our approach to North Korea is vastly different.
02:54:40 Granted, they had China backing them up fully.
02:54:42 I mean, that was part of it. 0.86
02:54:44 You wonder if the Chinese weren't in the equation, what we would have done with North Korea. 0.82
02:54:48 But again, there was this realistic understanding that when, I mean, you got to go back to 2017.
02:54:53 I mean, the relations with North Korea, it was looking really rough there.
02:54:58 But they understood that a regime change would be too costly, not worth it.
02:55:01 I mean, we didn't even pursue regime change in Venezuela, you know?
02:55:05 I mean, because we understand that it probably wouldn't work and it'd make the situation worse.
02:55:09 Like, I think Marco Rubio's approach to Venezuela is very mature, which is just, I don't know, bend their arm.
02:55:15 Like, once you've got them under your thumb, bend their arm. 0.93
02:55:18 Iran is just vastly more complicated, complex, powerful, wealthy, et cetera, than the Venezuelans, and they're not in our hemisphere. 0.97
02:55:25 So it's going to be impossible to conduct any long term operations there.
02:55:29 Well, they're not so wealthy anymore.
02:55:31 I think the points have been made to the best they can have been made.
02:55:34 Do you want to shout anything out, brother?
02:55:37 No, everything's doing good.
02:55:39 Basically, keep the patriotism up and keep speaking what you're speaking to.
02:55:43 Right on, brother.
02:55:44 Thanks for calling in.
02:55:46 All right.
02:55:46 Thanks, dude.
02:55:49 All right, next up we've got salty bag of nuts.
02:55:56 So salty loads.
02:55:58 What's up, bag of nuts?
02:56:03 Not much.
02:56:04 I have a question for the guests.
02:56:05 Can you guys hear me?
02:56:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:56:11 Okay, cool.
02:56:14 It's regarding your relationship with Phyllis Shapeweed.
02:56:18 Yep.
02:56:20 I was kind of digging into you a little bit so I could see who you were, and your relationship with her was kind of cool.
02:56:26 I looked her up, and she seemed like an amazing woman.
02:56:29 So, the question is going to sound like I'm attacking you, but that's something I meant.
02:56:36 So, it goes like this it's like you were her handpicked successor, and her own daughter led the board that fired you.
02:56:47 Ten years later, two of you are still running rival organizations using her name.
02:56:53 What do you think she would feel about that?
02:56:55 And if you can tell the story of what happened, because it sounds like the younger daughter kind of did you dirty.
02:57:01 No, I mean, look, first of all, wherever you're reading that, that's old because I'm not running the organization anymore.
02:57:06 But it's easier to say that Phyllis Schlafly died at 92 years old in 2016.
02:57:13 When she died four days later, Trump came off the campaign trail and came to her funeral.
02:57:18 She backed him early.
02:57:19 She was one of the earliest backers of him, especially from the social conservative side.
02:57:25 And so she was amazing.
02:57:26 She was a really interesting lady, had a long career, anti communist, Catholic out of the Midwest, and then cut her teeth organizing the anti ERA movement.
02:57:36 And she was really the first one that organized Christians and Jews and Mormons to hold arms and link together.
02:57:44 And she was really an amazing lady.
02:57:46 So, all the rest of that, you got some of it right.
02:57:48 You got some of it off, but it's mostly in the past.
02:57:52 I was really honored that when she was going to pick her successor, she asked me to be her successor.
02:57:58 And we did that for a while.
02:58:00 The rest of it is family feuds and stuff that ended up in litigation, as Tim said.
02:58:08 There's nothing good in litigation or fights with lawyers.
02:58:11 So it's kind of water under the bridge.
02:58:13 But she was amazing.
02:58:15 And in fact, when I left the administration a month ago, I had an hour long conversation in the Oval Office with the president, just me and him.
02:58:22 And he talked a lot about Phyllis because when she backed him, nobody thought a social conservative from the Midwest like her would back a twice divorced New York former Democrat, et cetera.
02:58:35 So it was pretty amazing.
02:58:38 Very cool.
02:58:38 Yeah, yeah.
02:58:38 I'm a little.
02:58:39 I'm going to read more about her.
02:58:41 Yeah.
02:58:41 I was kind of blown away about it.
02:58:43 I've never even heard of her before.
02:58:44 Yeah. 0.94
02:58:45 She was amazing.
02:58:45 Yeah.
02:58:46 I mean, one thing I'll tell you for the kids listening she, when she was 14 years old, she had a teacher who told her to write 250 words a day, whole school year long.
02:58:54 And she said she never stopped writing.
02:58:56 That was her big ace in the hole.
02:58:58 She was a writer all the time, her whole life.
02:59:00 She wrote until she had a column she published the day after she died.
02:59:04 So she was, and she attributed that writing to clarity of thought.
02:59:09 You know, you just get stuff.
02:59:11 She was, um, She was cool.
02:59:12 If you really want to learn about her, the Lincoln Presidential Library has an oral history, and there's about 11 hours of Phyllis Schlafly being interviewed, and it's a pretty interesting career.
02:59:26 All right, Anja, I'll check that out.
02:59:27 My oldest daughter, she's 15, she wants to be a writer.
02:59:30 She's really upset about the AMS stuff coming out.
02:59:30 There you go.
02:59:32 Yeah.
02:59:34 Well, it's a good one.
02:59:36 Let's go.
02:59:36 Thank you.
02:59:38 You want to shout anything out, brother?
02:59:40 No, we're good.
02:59:41 Let's go down here.
02:59:42 All right.
02:59:42 Thanks for calling in.
02:59:46 Ed, it was great having you.
02:59:46 All right.
02:59:48 Yeah, good to be with you guys.
02:59:49 Great to be out here in the country.
02:59:51 Yeah, are you still based in D.C. then?
02:59:53 Yeah, Northern Virginia.
02:59:55 We should do the Tim Pool show, the one on one sit down conversation.
02:59:58 That'd be awesome.
02:59:59 Then it's much calmer.
03:00:00 I don't get as angry.
03:00:01 And then I just basically ask you all the questions.
03:00:03 I'd love it.
03:00:03 Good.
03:00:04 The challenge with Tim Kest IRL is everyone expects it to be a sit down interview show because we have the guests come on, but it's a news commentary show, so it is what it is.
03:00:11 But I appreciate you coming out.
03:00:12 And for everybody, thank you for calling.
03:00:14 We're back tomorrow morning.
03:00:16 for Tim Cats News.
03:00:18 We'll see y'all there.