Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 18, 2026


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00:00:58.000 The Pentagon has released more UFO files on a Friday.
00:01:03.000 So, what's that all about?
00:01:05.000 The headline for every single news outlet everywhere is literal nothing.
00:01:08.000 They're just bringing up old stories.
00:01:10.000 There's nothing to talk about.
00:01:11.000 Everybody's bored.
00:01:12.000 Congress has left.
00:01:13.000 They've not done their job.
00:01:15.000 The Fed has raised interest rates.
00:01:16.000 There's a diesel shortage.
00:01:17.000 Gas is through the roof.
00:01:18.000 I think the Republicans have largely resigned to the fact they're going to lose the midterms.
00:01:22.000 So, they're running to try and minimize the damage.
00:01:25.000 And they're releasing UFO files.
00:01:28.000 I don't think it's a good distraction because they release it on a Tuesday, but we are going to talk about it.
00:01:33.000 And to do so, tonight we have a preeminent conspiracy panel for all of you.
00:01:39.000 And, well, Alex, we'll start with you.
00:01:41.000 Oh, start with me, guys.
00:01:42.000 You know, you got to get close to that microphone.
00:01:44.000 I'm primetime Alex sign. 1.00
00:01:45.000 You know, I'm the king of the conspiracy castle, your favorite conspiracy asshole. 0.99
00:01:49.000 And I'm just honored. 0.99
00:01:50.000 And it's such a privilege to have Flat Earth Dave here to basically co sign all of my crazy conspiracies because that guy's even crazier than me.
00:01:59.000 I'm excited.
00:02:00.000 And we got Ian.
00:02:01.000 He freaking.
00:02:02.000 This is going to be great.
00:02:02.000 Oh, this is insane.
00:02:03.000 Ian's here too.
00:02:04.000 I mean, come on.
00:02:05.000 Let me pick it apart.
00:02:06.000 You guys give me the numbers and I'll see if they're real or not.
00:02:08.000 I said this was going to be like when we had the Orthodox Christian versus Catholic debate, where it's to the outside.
00:02:16.000 You're wondering what they're even debating because it sounds so similar.
00:02:18.000 So having all of these conspiracy leaders in one room.
00:02:21.000 Dave, introduce yourself.
00:02:23.000 I'm Dave, known as Flat Earth Dave.
00:02:25.000 You can find all my content at flatheartdave.com.
00:02:28.000 And I'm I know the earth is flat and I know it's not a globe and I know there's lots of things that I don't know.
00:02:34.000 And algebra is not real.
00:02:36.000 Algebra is not real?
00:02:37.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:02:37.000 Fucker just said that and I agree with that, dude. 0.99
00:02:39.000 I took Algebra 2, and that's the main thing. 0.99
00:02:43.000 Okay.
00:02:44.000 Real quick, though, it decides if you get into college.
00:02:47.000 Algebra is very real. 1.00
00:02:48.000 But it's retarded still. 1.00
00:02:48.000 I use it every day. 1.00
00:02:50.000 It's still retarded. 1.00
00:02:51.000 It doesn't make it not retarded. 1.00
00:02:53.000 Tony, what's up? 1.00
00:02:54.000 Who are you?
00:02:55.000 Tony Merkel, Confessionals Podcast.
00:02:57.000 I guess if I'm an expert, it'd be in the supernatural.
00:02:59.000 That's kind of my wheelhouse.
00:03:00.000 Let's go.
00:03:02.000 The first thing I'll just say is algebra is very real and very important for game development.
00:03:06.000 Come on, Tim.
00:03:07.000 They added letters to numbers.
00:03:09.000 What are we doing here, dude? 1.00
00:03:10.000 That's made by a bunch of Islamic pedophiles. 1.00
00:03:14.000 We don't believe in what they said. 1.00
00:03:16.000 They have sex with nine year olds, so they can't do math. 0.79
00:03:19.000 Alex, I need variables when I'm coding damage outputs and abilities and loot item drops. 0.94
00:03:25.000 Listen, the equations all have to be with variables.
00:03:28.000 Zero, zero, zero.
00:03:29.000 Okay, Tim, let's not act like you're some mathematician.
00:03:32.000 I get it.
00:03:33.000 Algebra can be used in some situations.
00:03:36.000 I'll just say that. 1.00
00:03:37.000 But it's still faking gay. 1.00
00:03:39.000 What do you think about trigonometry? 1.00
00:03:41.000 Gay. 1.00
00:03:42.000 Calculus? 0.99
00:03:43.000 Gay. 1.00
00:03:43.000 Dude, you do all these advanced level mathematics in college. 1.00
00:03:48.000 I took finance.
00:03:49.000 I think you could argue that finance is somewhat beneficial.
00:03:52.000 But listen, I'm not broke.
00:03:53.000 I pay a decent amount of money in taxes.
00:03:55.000 I've never whipped out my financial calculator.
00:03:57.000 So it's like they teach us all these subjects, it's more of a training method.
00:04:03.000 It doesn't actually teach you life skills.
00:04:06.000 It just Depends on whether you're smart or not, and that's how they judge it.
00:04:08.000 They teach you slave math, which is like accounting and algebra.
00:04:12.000 Two thirds.
00:04:13.000 They don't never teach you about vortex mathematics or sacred geometry.
00:04:16.000 That's the stuff that'll let you really figure out.
00:04:18.000 Well, they taught sacred geometry when I was in high school.
00:04:20.000 Is that true?
00:04:21.000 I was in high school for like two months, but.
00:04:23.000 Sacred geometry.
00:04:24.000 I don't even know what that Randall Carlson talks a lot about it.
00:04:26.000 Yeah, it's good stuff.
00:04:28.000 Look it up.
00:04:28.000 Take the Fibonacci sequence, and there's a lot to it.
00:04:30.000 Yeah, it's very weird.
00:04:31.000 Of course, they taught that.
00:04:32.000 They showed us a bunch of nautilus shells all over the world.
00:04:35.000 A little bit.
00:04:36.000 They teach you that's the.
00:04:38.000 The Fibonacci sequence.
00:04:40.000 Yeah, but you know why Tim likes it?
00:04:41.000 Because gambling, the Fibonacci sequence works.
00:04:43.000 If you bet on something that's like 50 50, it's actually one of the best.
00:04:46.000 It's one of the actually, I don't use it.
00:04:48.000 Alex is joking, but it is true that gamblers do what's called a Fibonacci bet sequence, where you increase your bets based on Fibonacci numbers, which I think is.
00:04:58.000 It does work because, like, when you win your bet, even if it's a 50 50 bet, you win like one and a half amount of the bet total, but it gets pretty high pretty fast.
00:05:04.000 But this isn't a gambling podcast, it is a mathematics.
00:05:07.000 We got this story from CBS News Pentagon releases more UFO files, including documents on secretive military program.
00:05:15.000 One document describes the goals of the program and requirements for contractors.
00:05:19.000 Quote, one aspect of the future threat environment involves advanced aerospace weapon system applications.
00:05:24.000 The objective of this program is to understand the physics and engineering of these applications as they apply to the foreign threat out to the far term, i.e., now through the year 2050.
00:05:34.000 Primary focus on the breakthrough technologies and applications that create discontinuities in currently evolving technology trends.
00:05:41.000 That sounds like they jammed a bunch of words into a sentence that explained nothing.
00:05:46.000 But I suppose they're making space weapons because aliens are going to invade.
00:05:51.000 You know, and I think Dave will be on my side with this.
00:05:53.000 You know, I think it was Ronald Reagan and with the presidents before him that just explicitly, not covertly, not subliminally, talked about how the best method to create a one world order would be to create an existential alien threat.
00:06:08.000 And then that would bring all the nations together, like America with Russia, America with Iran.
00:06:12.000 You know, it would bring all the enemies and they would create allies.
00:06:16.000 So when it comes to the idea of aliens, I think it's fake. 1.00
00:06:19.000 I think it's gay. 1.00
00:06:19.000 I think they're doing that on purpose to lie to us. 1.00
00:06:21.000 If the government tells us something is true, I would agree.
00:06:25.000 10 years ago, listen to the opposite.
00:06:26.000 10 years ago, if you believed in aliens, you were a conspiracy nutjob. 0.81
00:06:30.000 Now, if you don't believe in them, you're a conspiracy nutjob.
00:06:33.000 Isn't that funny?
00:06:33.000 They're normalizing it.
00:06:35.000 Remember the drones that we had last year, whatever?
00:06:37.000 The balloon. 0.99
00:06:38.000 Remember the big Chinese balloon?
00:06:40.000 No, the drones over Jersey.
00:06:41.000 The drones over Jersey.
00:06:41.000 We had one over our neighborhood.
00:06:43.000 And now the government goes, we don't know what they are, but they're not dangerous.
00:06:48.000 All right?
00:06:49.000 Think about that.
00:06:49.000 So now, if they do some fake alien event, People are going to not freak out, which they want.
00:06:56.000 They want people to just accept it, to say, okay, of course they're here.
00:06:59.000 They're not threatening because they've been programmed.
00:07:02.000 They've been mind controlled.
00:07:03.000 Don't forget about Project Bluebeam, where NASA has already released documents explaining that they could make it look like Jesus was coming back.
00:07:09.000 They could literally, through hologram technology, create the rapture.
00:07:13.000 And I wouldn't be surprised if they did something crazy like that.
00:07:16.000 And Tim, I don't know if we talked on the podcast about the Chinese balloon.
00:07:20.000 You brought that up.
00:07:21.000 That might have been outside.
00:07:22.000 I was talking about it.
00:07:23.000 It was you, yeah.
00:07:24.000 So that balloon, that actual type of balloon, it's impossible for it to.
00:07:27.000 Go from China to America.
00:07:29.000 So, whatever it was, it was impossible.
00:07:31.000 Like, if you had a car that exploded after 250 miles, could you drive it from New York to California?
00:07:36.000 Why would that balloon explode?
00:07:37.000 Because the type of balloon it is, it cannot travel that distance without exploding.
00:07:41.000 Are you filming this?
00:07:43.000 I don't know.
00:07:44.000 We have a balloon expert that told him all about it.
00:07:47.000 I don't know all the specs.
00:07:48.000 But, Dave, real quick, what about like Sahara dust?
00:07:50.000 You know, they say that here in Austin, that, well, we're not in Austin, but you know what I mean?
00:07:54.000 They're getting dust from the Sahara.
00:07:55.000 What about those Japanese balloons they launched during World War II?
00:07:58.000 True.
00:07:59.000 I don't know about that.
00:08:00.000 But you said they would launch balloons, and when the pressure would get too high, it would drop the bombs.
00:08:06.000 No, it would drop a bag, a sandbag.
00:08:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:08.000 Which would make it fall, and then it would start slowly expanding.
00:08:11.000 It would drop another bag.
00:08:11.000 Yeah.
00:08:12.000 Then once it got over the U.S., it would drop bombs.
00:08:14.000 Yep.
00:08:15.000 That's genius. 0.95
00:08:16.000 Yeah, so the balloons could do it.
00:08:17.000 Yeah, but that type of balloon could not have made it on its own.
00:08:20.000 But you said you don't have the specs.
00:08:22.000 I don't have the specs.
00:08:23.000 I heard the guy, his name was Dwayne Kellum.
00:08:26.000 He explained how that balloon could not do it.
00:08:28.000 He's like, you're just choosing to believe this guy.
00:08:30.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:08:32.000 Yeah.
00:08:32.000 He's done lots of stuff.
00:08:33.000 I don't understand, but it's true.
00:08:35.000 That's the dangerous path.
00:08:36.000 That is, I'll give you that.
00:08:38.000 I'll give you that.
00:08:39.000 But at the same exact time, you know, it is weird these balloons and NASA's the biggest purveyor of helium.
00:08:45.000 And then, you know, actually, you can look online of like videos of them launching satellites with balloons.
00:08:49.000 So it's like there is something weird.
00:08:51.000 And I know you probably haven't looked into this, Ian, but they say that there's balloons the size of football stadiums, like the size of the, you know, Superdome or Penn State's football stadium in the sky that can just hover forever.
00:09:02.000 Balloons?
00:09:03.000 Yeah, balloons.
00:09:04.000 They say, yes.
00:09:05.000 Who's they?
00:09:05.000 And I'm not even.
00:09:07.000 I mean, Dave, you explained.
00:09:08.000 We're talking about like government stadiums.
00:09:09.000 We're talking about like government stadiums.
00:09:10.000 Well, Project Loon, we talked about.
00:09:12.000 I don't know the specific project.
00:09:14.000 Yeah, maybe.
00:09:14.000 Israel is a big part of it.
00:09:16.000 And Jewish is, Dave's Jewish, so he's allowed to be.
00:09:18.000 And so are you.
00:09:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:09:19.000 Well, He's allowed.
00:09:22.000 Tell me more about Project Loon.
00:09:24.000 Well, they launch, NASA launches thousands of balloon satellites that can pick up to 8,000 pounds.
00:09:31.000 And they launch a lot of them from Antarctica.
00:09:34.000 And they're going all around.
00:09:35.000 I know that a couple of years ago, they had one that stayed up for several years.
00:09:42.000 They lost track of one and they found it like three years later or something.
00:09:45.000 But these are all over the place.
00:09:46.000 It's not a theory.
00:09:48.000 We've seen them transit the moon.
00:09:51.000 When we're looking at the moon.
00:09:52.000 This was a big deal.
00:09:53.000 When they launched it, it was a huge thing in the news because they were like, we could theoretically get cellular transmission through balloon.
00:10:00.000 Balloon instead of requiring rocketry.
00:10:00.000 Yep.
00:10:03.000 No, you just launch a balloon and people get cell service in the desert.
00:10:06.000 And they say the next SpaceX will be eventually launched through balloons.
00:10:10.000 Literally, they're talking about that right now with Tesla.
00:10:12.000 You can use these as power stations too.
00:10:13.000 You attach a coil to the base of the balloon and the metal coil, the balloon as it goes up and down creates this tension on the coil that will produce electricity.
00:10:22.000 Well, how does it produce electricity?
00:10:22.000 Yep.
00:10:24.000 I got that.
00:10:25.000 Let me see if I can get the exact function.
00:10:25.000 Mostly like this.
00:10:28.000 Ian's great at producing this.
00:10:29.000 He's great at a lot of friction.
00:10:31.000 You got to tighten your grip a little bit.
00:10:32.000 Yeah.
00:10:33.000 Just use these fingers.
00:10:34.000 Wait, what are you talking about?
00:10:37.000 Energy.
00:10:38.000 A lot of potential.
00:10:38.000 You'd attach it to a base station and just have a balloon bouncing up and down in the atmosphere, creating electricity.
00:10:44.000 So there are big things in our stratosphere, whatever you want to call it.
00:10:48.000 But I think Dave can explain this better than me.
00:10:50.000 It's like the idea that they're just, you know, you know, Unidentified flying objects, like they probably have identified them.
00:10:56.000 I think, you know, UFOs are known.
00:10:58.000 But my question is are they making transparent balloons?
00:11:02.000 Look at those.
00:11:03.000 It's translucent, but like balloons you literally can't see.
00:11:06.000 When they're up that high, you really can't see them in the sky.
00:11:08.000 There's not enough contrast.
00:11:10.000 But we saw what we've seen them transit the moon over a full moon, and then you can see it because there's some contrast.
00:11:10.000 You don't see them.
00:11:18.000 But in the dark sky, you don't see it.
00:11:20.000 And in the day sky, they're very, very difficult to see.
00:11:22.000 You know what's crazy about the moon? 0.83
00:11:23.000 If you actually look at, like, I think, was it Palestine's flag?
00:11:26.000 What Muslim country's flag?
00:11:27.000 You can see the star through the moon, right, Dave?
00:11:30.000 Yeah, a whole bunch of, you know, you got the moon and the star right here.
00:11:35.000 Like, how could that be part of the moon?
00:11:36.000 Whose flag is that?
00:11:36.000 The lit part of the moon.
00:11:37.000 Because I know Tim will be like, what are you guys talking about?
00:11:38.000 What is it? 0.73
00:11:39.000 It's like Afghanistan. 1.00
00:11:40.000 There's a whole bunch of them. 1.00
00:11:41.000 China?
00:11:42.000 There's like ancient Chinese or whatever Middle Eastern symbology where you can see stuff through the moon.
00:11:48.000 I see.
00:11:49.000 So they'd see like a crescent, but in the dark spot, they'd see another light.
00:11:52.000 Now, what does that mean?
00:11:55.000 The if that if you could see the star in the crescent area, what does that mean?
00:11:59.000 It would indicate that there was something between you and the moon itself.
00:12:02.000 That's what they'll tell you.
00:12:03.000 That's like the modern science.
00:12:04.000 No, no, the star.
00:12:05.000 If you could see the star in the crescent area, what does that tell you?
00:12:10.000 A star.
00:12:10.000 I mean, if you saw something that looked like a star in that area when looking up at the sky, you mean it wouldn't indicate that it was a star.
00:12:17.000 What if it was proven to be a star?
00:12:18.000 Like Saturn.
00:12:19.000 I'd love to see it.
00:12:20.000 There are what are ones.
00:12:20.000 Well, what if it was?
00:12:22.000 If you proved what would it be between us and the moon, yeah, that would completely upend modern well, well, no, that's a You're actually getting to the point I was trying to trap you in because a lot of people.
00:12:32.000 No, no, it's good.
00:12:33.000 A lot of people say if you see the crescent moon and you see the star, that means the moon's transparent.
00:12:33.000 It's good.
00:12:37.000 And my answer is maybe the star is in front of the moon.
00:12:40.000 And people can't even fathom that the star would be in front of the moon because the stars are so big.
00:12:44.000 They're trillions of miles away.
00:12:46.000 None of that is true.
00:12:48.000 What are they?
00:12:48.000 Let me give you a quick example.
00:12:49.000 Let me give you a quick example.
00:12:50.000 Well, I can't make any claims about the sky, but we can do observations.
00:12:54.000 You're driving down the road, and the trees around the side of the road are whizzing by.
00:12:59.000 You're driving down the road, trees are whizzing by.
00:12:59.000 Right?
00:13:01.000 But the trees up on the mountain 10 miles away, they're kind of moving very, very slowly.
00:13:06.000 It's parallax, right?
00:13:07.000 Things closer to you appear to move faster.
00:13:10.000 With me?
00:13:10.000 Yeah.
00:13:11.000 All right.
00:13:12.000 So when we look up at the sky, we see the sun move across the sky.
00:13:15.000 A lot of people think that's because the Earth's spinning.
00:13:17.000 Well, the story is the stars rotate and the sun moves because of the spin of the Earth.
00:13:24.000 They're not really moving.
00:13:25.000 We're just spinning.
00:13:26.000 That's what we're told.
00:13:27.000 So if we watch the stars and the sun, the stars are moving faster than the sun.
00:13:34.000 The stars are creeping out.
00:13:36.000 If you're running around a track, the stars are winning.
00:13:38.000 They're beating the sun.
00:13:39.000 They're getting a little farther ahead every day.
00:13:41.000 So how could something trillions of miles away have an apparent motion that's faster than something very close?
00:13:48.000 Because we're moving the same speed as the Close object.
00:13:52.000 No.
00:13:53.000 The Earth is moving relatively the same speed through the galaxy.
00:13:59.000 So it would be like if you and Alex were running full speed next to each other and a car drives by, you're like, How is the car going faster when we're both running?
00:14:06.000 Well, it's because you're both running the same speed.
00:14:08.000 Yeah.
00:14:09.000 So it looks like Alex.
00:14:10.000 And I'm not even trying to debate for Dave, but I mean, listen, Albert Einstein's smarter than all of us combined, right?
00:14:16.000 Would we agree?
00:14:17.000 Is he married his cousin twice?
00:14:17.000 No.
00:14:19.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:14:19.000 Guys, in mathematics, He ripped a lot of guys off.
00:14:23.000 But hold on, like, he was saying, you cannot tell whether or not we are moving or the sun, moon, and stars are moving.
00:14:28.000 Like, he has a very famous quote explaining that.
00:14:30.000 So I think there's a little bit of truth to that.
00:14:32.000 It's like we see these things moving rapidly.
00:14:34.000 We see the sun, you know, transgress the entire earth in 24 hours a day.
00:14:39.000 It doesn't seem like we're moving 1,100 miles around the sun.
00:14:41.000 You know what I mean?
00:14:42.000 So that's why I like.
00:14:43.000 We're moving at 18 miles per second.
00:14:45.000 It doesn't feel like that.
00:14:47.000 It feels more like 17.
00:14:47.000 It doesn't.
00:14:49.000 It doesn't feel like anything.
00:14:50.000 But I think the earth is immovable.
00:14:53.000 You know, I'm more of a biblical cosmologist, even more than Dave.
00:14:56.000 And I think that, like, the way they describe the firmament, I think there is, you know, hell and heaven are closer.
00:15:00.000 That's the secret.
00:15:01.000 Hold on.
00:15:02.000 You want to know what the secret is?
00:15:03.000 You know the Challenger explosion?
00:15:04.000 It's because it hit the firmament.
00:15:06.000 No, no, Tim, that was fake.
00:15:07.000 No, it hit the firmament.
00:15:09.000 All the people in the Challenger are still alive, basically.
00:15:12.000 I know, Tim Lash, tell him, Dave.
00:15:13.000 Dave, tell him.
00:15:14.000 They've all been found.
00:15:14.000 They are.
00:15:15.000 They all have the same name.
00:15:17.000 What's a teacher's name?
00:15:17.000 What's a teacher's name?
00:15:18.000 What's a teacher's name?
00:15:19.000 Krista McCauley. 1.00
00:15:19.000 Susie Lash? 1.00
00:15:20.000 Yeah.
00:15:20.000 Judy, something?
00:15:21.000 Yeah, Judy, whatever. 1.00
00:15:23.000 Yeah, Judy Resnick is still teaching at the damn school. 0.98
00:15:26.000 Type in Challenger, people still alive right now. 0.99
00:15:28.000 People have confronted them and they behave very strange.
00:15:31.000 They go running.
00:15:32.000 Now, the internet says none of them have been found alive.
00:15:34.000 The internet lies.
00:15:35.000 Wait, hold on.
00:15:36.000 There's a fact check from two days ago.
00:15:38.000 The internet is never wrong about anything.
00:15:40.000 This proves it.
00:15:41.000 Wait a minute.
00:15:41.000 That would mean you guys are right at the same time.
00:15:43.000 Yeah.
00:15:44.000 I don't know which one to believe.
00:15:44.000 I have to pick.
00:15:46.000 I don't believe the internet.
00:15:47.000 Regarding your argument about it doesn't feel like we're moving, it's like if you've been in a car where you start going 80 miles an hour, all of a sudden it feels like you're sitting still.
00:15:55.000 What about this?
00:15:55.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:15:56.000 Every motion that the earth is doing is a curved motion, no straight lines.
00:16:00.000 So, if you're in a car going 80 miles an hour and it takes a turn, do you feel it?
00:16:03.000 There's your coffee tilt.
00:16:05.000 Depends on how much you turn.
00:16:07.000 Yes.
00:16:07.000 So, we're moving sideways at 60 miles an hour.
00:16:10.000 That's just the spin, right?
00:16:12.000 And that's the slowest motion.
00:16:13.000 And I like that argument, but what about if you're in a convertible and you put down the top?
00:16:17.000 So, technically, they describe us being in a convertible.
00:16:21.000 And I think you guys look, it's hitting the firmament.
00:16:24.000 That was the first time they ever actually tried to go to space and they realized the firmament was there.
00:16:28.000 Tell them the real conspiracy, Dave.
00:16:29.000 Tell them the real conspiracy.
00:16:30.000 It could be a.
00:16:31.000 Tim, dude, this is.
00:16:33.000 This is.
00:16:34.000 Where can I. 1980s, Tim.
00:16:36.000 I mean, I have to, you know, whatever.
00:16:38.000 By the way, the seventh guy has been found.
00:16:41.000 But, like, have you.
00:16:42.000 How do you know?
00:16:43.000 There's people that want to.
00:16:44.000 It bothers me.
00:16:44.000 You know what really bothered me?
00:16:45.000 It would have confronted them.
00:16:48.000 I'll tell you a funny story about Michael Mouse.
00:16:50.000 You want to hear a funny story about him?
00:16:51.000 We love Michael, but if it's not.
00:16:52.000 So, Mike, when we were still at the Castle studio, Michael was on the show.
00:16:56.000 And so he was in the green room, which used to be in our basement.
00:16:59.000 And my brother came down the stairs and was walking past Michael.
00:17:05.000 And he went, Hey, what's up?
00:17:06.000 My brother went up and walked right past him.
00:17:08.000 And Michael was like, Did I make him angry?
00:17:11.000 He thought my brother was me.
00:17:14.000 My brother and I do look alike.
00:17:15.000 We do sound alike, but we are distinct.
00:17:18.000 People and it's kind of odd.
00:17:20.000 So, so my point is, Michael, who knows me very well, confused my brother for me.
00:17:27.000 It's like you can find a picture of a guy who looks like another guy, but that proves it.
00:17:30.000 But the idea that they're perfect doppelgangers, they have the same teeth, they have the same mannerisms, they have the same voice.
00:17:30.000 Understood.
00:17:38.000 Two of them claim to be identical twins.
00:17:40.000 If you go, if you look at, there's no record of them being born as twins, and at their funerals, none of their twins ever showed up at their funeral, which is weird.
00:17:48.000 So, My question is What's the reason for faking the Challenger design?
00:17:53.000 Perfect question.
00:17:54.000 And actually, Dave probably answered this even better than me.
00:17:58.000 But that was right at the point where the government was debating whether or should they continue to fund NASA.
00:18:04.000 And actually, they stopped funding it, basically.
00:18:06.000 They almost ended the entire program.
00:18:07.000 So, Dave, you can probably explain this better than me.
00:18:10.000 But explain how important that was in NASA's history.
00:18:13.000 It's trauma based mind control.
00:18:15.000 It's literally, they had to kick the can down the road.
00:18:17.000 Ever since I was a kid, we're going to have a hotel on the moon.
00:18:20.000 And that was a long time ago.
00:18:21.000 But just like 9 11, everybody had a TV rolled into their classroom, you know, to see the second plane hit the tower.
00:18:27.000 Just like that with Challenger, but they were all watching it before.
00:18:30.000 Are you saying that that guy on the right is the same guy or is this guy?
00:18:30.000 Wait, wait.
00:18:32.000 Dick Scoble, yes.
00:18:33.000 Dick Scobie.
00:18:34.000 And then this guy, Richard Scobie, had a company called Cows and Trees.
00:18:39.000 And they had an animated logo when you go to their website, which is a cow taking off like a rocket, leaving a smoke trail, making almost the same pattern as that. 0.99
00:18:47.000 Sounds like he's just being a dick. 0.99
00:18:49.000 It sounds like it. 0.99
00:18:50.000 As soon as we discovered that, If someone came to me and said, you know, there's a guy who's the same name as the dude from The Challenger who made a logo of, like, that was a cow exploding. 0.62
00:18:57.000 Give it to him.
00:18:58.000 Look at the slant of his eyes, Tim.
00:19:00.000 Look at the slant of his eyes.
00:19:01.000 I know he's an age, but come on.
00:19:03.000 That is a unique face.
00:19:04.000 And those are competitive.
00:19:06.000 And the ages match up the birth age of the rapper.
00:19:09.000 But there's a guy named Tim Poole on Twitter who's like the same age as me, too.
00:19:13.000 Yeah.
00:19:14.000 Yeah.
00:19:14.000 There's all the doppelganger.
00:19:16.000 One doppelganger.
00:19:18.000 Okay.
00:19:18.000 I can buy it.
00:19:19.000 Two.
00:19:20.000 It's getting a little rough.
00:19:21.000 Six.
00:19:22.000 It's off the charts.
00:19:23.000 This guy's not even the same.
00:19:24.000 Look at this guy's not even the same guy.
00:19:25.000 He technically had a twin brother.
00:19:27.000 They're showing his twin brother, which is even weirder.
00:19:30.000 That's his brother?
00:19:31.000 Yeah, no, supposedly he had a twin brother.
00:19:33.000 The guy on the right is bald, and the other guy's not.
00:19:35.000 That proves it.
00:19:36.000 One guy's got two different people.
00:19:38.000 He has diasporas.
00:19:39.000 His brother.
00:19:40.000 Allegedly, he has an identical twin brother.
00:19:43.000 He's got a gap in his teeth.
00:19:44.000 His identical twin brother did not go to his funeral, which is weird.
00:19:44.000 Yeah.
00:19:47.000 Listen, I agree with you that this person's that person's game.
00:19:50.000 It's a tough game.
00:19:51.000 Yeah.
00:19:51.000 It's a tough game.
00:19:52.000 But the amount of evidence out.
00:19:54.000 On that.
00:19:54.000 Like, you check out Justin Harvey from We Are Change Orlando.
00:19:58.000 He's done some stuff.
00:19:59.000 He goes to town council meetings.
00:20:01.000 What does Tony have to say about all this?
00:20:02.000 No, no, no.
00:20:03.000 Justin's doing great, but do you have anything to say?
00:20:05.000 Well, no, I've seen this for years now.
00:20:05.000 What do you think?
00:20:07.000 And that's one of the things that this was, this story that we're talking about right now is always one of the ones that I just felt like I can't do the mental gymnastics around at all of it.
00:20:15.000 The fact that the names line up, the looks line up, voice lines up.
00:20:19.000 Like, I mean, what are the odds that you would have that kind of case where it's not just one person?
00:20:24.000 Or two people, it's the whole crew.
00:20:26.000 There's these doppelgangers with the people.
00:20:27.000 But why even use real people then?
00:20:29.000 Why use their names?
00:20:30.000 That's the question.
00:20:31.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:20:33.000 But it was a huge, like, we weren't even basically born in 86 when it happened.
00:20:38.000 That's when I was born.
00:20:39.000 So we were like months old.
00:20:39.000 I wasn't born.
00:20:40.000 So our parents weren't like telling us about it.
00:20:42.000 But, dude, this was a marketing scheme that we've used.
00:20:46.000 Sure, sure.
00:20:46.000 Look, if I was going to, if I just be like, let's call that guy Rick Smith and Janet Murphy, why give them their real names?
00:20:53.000 At least I was an expert.
00:20:54.000 You understand that every astronaut was ex military.
00:20:56.000 They had to have some military background.
00:20:58.000 Maybe now they've changed the regulations, but in the past, if you wanted to be an astronaut, you had to have some sort of military background.
00:21:03.000 So you have to look at NASA as a wing of our military.
00:21:06.000 And I would think that you would agree there's people that did stuff in Afghanistan, Iraq, they're not proud of that they don't admit to.
00:21:12.000 So we know that the military is allowed to lie about their.
00:21:16.000 Past experiences.
00:21:16.000 That's just a given.
00:21:18.000 So the idea that they're lying about this is not impossible considering there's classified levels of information.
00:21:23.000 Of course, as I was explaining to Dave on the other show we recorded, I'm not so egotistically attached to information that I've read that I'm not open to the possibilities.
00:21:32.000 Of course, they could fake all these things.
00:21:33.000 My question is Occam's Razor, what is the purpose of staging this and using their real names?
00:21:41.000 If you're going to stage it, just be like, give them a fake name, at least, and put some nose putty on or something.
00:21:45.000 But that makes me feel like when you look at this, then.
00:21:48.000 Is there something deeper going on?
00:21:50.000 Is this some kind of ritual that they're putting the mass hive mind through?
00:21:54.000 Yep.
00:21:55.000 That they put the information right in front of your face and make you deny what you're seeing.
00:21:59.000 It's called trauma based mind control.
00:22:01.000 And I think they're going to look at Werner von Braun and the whole way NASA even started.
00:22:05.000 They're casting spells. 0.87
00:22:06.000 He was a Nazi. 0.86
00:22:07.000 Literally, he was a Nazi. 0.69
00:22:08.000 Like nothing's provable, but there's lots of people talk about the idea that they do black mass rituals before rocket launches and things.
00:22:16.000 That's something that's been talked about for a long time.
00:22:18.000 You look at Werner von Braun.
00:22:20.000 Where he came from, what look at his tombstone.
00:22:22.000 I just got to say this Psalm 19:1, the uh, you know, heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament showeth his handiwork.
00:22:28.000 Like, literally, he was saying that that's on his tombstone.
00:22:31.000 He could choose one Bible verse, and that's what he chose.
00:22:34.000 And this is arguably the godfather of NASA, so it seems like he was trying to give us he's just trolling us, you know.
00:22:39.000 That's what they'll say, though, right?
00:22:41.000 He's gonna say, yeah, he's trolling us.
00:22:43.000 What was von Braun's connection to the occult before?
00:22:45.000 You weren't saying he was a Nazi scientist, so they the idea of the Nazis looking through the occult to.
00:22:52.000 Gained power and knowledge and understanding. 0.73
00:22:54.000 The UFO, the guy that came out of the Nazi era.
00:22:58.000 The modern day propulsion rocket was a Satanist that hung out with Aleister Crowley.
00:23:02.000 So, like, the whole origins he hung out with, what's the guy from Scientology, Dave?
00:23:07.000 L. Ron Hubbard.
00:23:08.000 L. Ron Hubbard, best friends with him.
00:23:09.000 And that's Jack Parsons.
00:23:10.000 That's where these rockets came out of the Jet Propulsion Lab.
00:23:14.000 And it was created by this guy, Jack Parsons, who was a known Satanist.
00:23:16.000 Yeah, I mean, his idol was Crowley, and Crowley was even annoyed by him.
00:23:20.000 I think, you know, it is, it is.
00:23:22.000 Thing that people will do is show you the truth and then make you not realize it's the truth.
00:23:27.000 Then they can get you to believe anything.
00:23:29.000 But also to get you to get confused and to think that there's something there when there's not is also a tactic.
00:23:35.000 So, what you're saying is that something would be going on then, at the very minimum.
00:23:39.000 What it is, we don't know.
00:23:40.000 But you're saying at least there's a tactic happening.
00:23:42.000 And if they confuse you, your brain stops working.
00:23:45.000 You're confused.
00:23:46.000 That's a big problem.
00:23:47.000 And I don't know.
00:23:47.000 Or the third option is it's complete conflation of events.
00:23:51.000 Like someone just decided one day to put an internet post up and then another guy's like, yeah, I like this.
00:23:55.000 Let me make a post.
00:23:55.000 Theory.
00:23:56.000 Did we start all this because I was making a joke about the Challenger hitting the firmament?
00:23:59.000 Yes, Tim.
00:23:59.000 Yes.
00:24:01.000 Everything starts with you with a joke.
00:24:03.000 And it gets very real to conspiracy theorists because, once again, we talk about what is the motivation to do this.
00:24:09.000 It's like they needed more organic support for NASA after seeing this.
00:24:13.000 And I think they got it.
00:24:14.000 So, okay, is this correlated with the idea that the Earth is flat, that there can't be rocketry?
00:24:20.000 Otherwise, it's ballistic missiles.
00:24:22.000 That's what we're seeing.
00:24:22.000 Whenever they launch a real rocket, it's just an ICBM.
00:24:25.000 And they designed it as a rocket with people on it.
00:24:28.000 Can they watch any rocket launch?
00:24:29.000 They go up, they curve over, and then it switches to a cartoon, and we don't see anything else.
00:24:33.000 Have you seen any damage to the firmament?
00:24:35.000 Tim, have you seen the Florida rocket launches?
00:24:38.000 I've watched tons of them.
00:24:39.000 Yeah, and have you noticed, though, that it does curve pretty soon?
00:24:41.000 Because it's entering orbit.
00:24:42.000 I don't think some of the.
00:24:44.000 You know how orbit works, right?
00:24:45.000 I understand.
00:24:46.000 By all means, don't just say no, no, no.
00:24:49.000 Explain to me how it's.
00:24:50.000 I understand how the Earth is spinning.
00:24:52.000 Argue against what they're saying.
00:24:54.000 No, it's going to have a straight trajectory considering the spin of the Earth.
00:24:58.000 You say to enter orbit, you need to travel faster outside the.
00:24:58.000 Hold on.
00:25:03.000 You have terminal velocity, and if you actually measure it on your phone, they're not even close to terminal velocity.
00:25:07.000 You have to escape velocity, and then you don't have different speeds.
00:25:12.000 Right.
00:25:13.000 And then terminal velocity is immaterial when you're in the vacuum of space.
00:25:13.000 Okay.
00:25:17.000 If you watch a rocket launch, Elon's rocket launcher, the shuttle rocket launches from years ago, the main tank is, they're already ejecting the side tanks and it's still in visual view, right?
00:25:29.000 When you see a jet fighter fly by at Mach 2, it's so freaking fast.
00:25:35.000 This thing's going 17,000 miles an hour and we're just watching it lollygag up there.
00:25:40.000 Yeah, but airplanes also look like they're barely moving.
00:25:42.000 Yeah, but at this point, Elon wouldn't lie to me.
00:25:45.000 There you go.
00:25:45.000 See, that's the thing.
00:25:47.000 And Tim is very big on Twitter, so Tim wants to be nice to Elon.
00:25:51.000 But I feel like, you know.
00:25:52.000 Elon, listen, Alex, never at any point, for any reason, has Elon Musk ever done anything wrong.
00:25:59.000 Yeah, okay, clip that.
00:26:01.000 Elon Musk is a deadbeat dad.
00:26:03.000 And that's what he said.
00:26:05.000 No, and I think that's one of the.
00:26:07.000 If you did, you have to understand that.
00:26:08.000 If Tim's a great dad, you would never even.
00:26:09.000 No, no, no.
00:26:09.000 I'm saying just argue what their claim is, don't ignore what the claim is.
00:26:13.000 You're a very wealthy young man.
00:26:14.000 Would you ever.
00:26:15.000 Young.
00:26:15.000 Would you ever abandon your baby for millions of dollars?
00:26:18.000 There's no amount of money.
00:26:19.000 Exactly right.
00:26:19.000 I would.
00:26:20.000 Alex, the thing, if the things I would do to you to protect my child, like you would kill me. 0.99
00:26:23.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:26:24.000 You'd kill me. 0.98
00:26:24.000 And I think that's definitely understandable. 0.98
00:26:26.000 But the point is not the same.
00:26:27.000 Richie McGinnis, we escalated this.
00:26:29.000 I was like, if someone was holding a gun to your family and you had to do something, would you do?
00:26:34.000 And then we escalated.
00:26:34.000 He's like, of course.
00:26:35.000 And I was like, if aliens had a button that was going to blow up the entirety of Earth and wipe out all life on the planet, and they said, you know, we're going to press this unless, like, you know, to save your child, he was like, goodbye.
00:26:46.000 Exactly.
00:26:47.000 That's robbed the whole earth from a kid.
00:26:48.000 That's a supervillain.
00:26:49.000 I was thinking about that.
00:26:50.000 No, it isn't.
00:26:51.000 That's what a supervillain does.
00:26:52.000 They're like, I will destroy the planet to save my wife who's incarcerated in Crystal.
00:26:56.000 Or they'll do some weird thing to save one person.
00:26:58.000 Incarcerated in Crystal.
00:26:59.000 There's always some illness, ailment that they have to deal with.
00:27:01.000 Talking about Mr. Freeze.
00:27:02.000 Yeah, and they're willing to wipe out anything to preserve this one person.
00:27:06.000 And it's like, that's just supervillain art.
00:27:08.000 Batman Forever was a great movie, though.
00:27:09.000 I think it gets a lot of hate unnecessarily.
00:27:12.000 Well, because the actual cartoon version of Mr. Freeze, they.
00:27:16.000 So.
00:27:17.000 Mr. Freeze originally was a one dimensional garbage villain. 0.91
00:27:20.000 Then the animated series made him a sad villain where Mr. Freeze wasn't going, I'm going to kill you. 0.99
00:27:25.000 He was going, I'm sorry, and shitting people. 0.99
00:27:28.000 And then in the movie, they made him a one dimensional villain who had a wife. 0.84
00:27:31.000 Yeah, but I liked Arnold and Batman Forever.
00:27:34.000 So, I mean, with Tony and Dave, with you guys here, I feel like we have two treasure chests.
00:27:39.000 And I don't know how to get to the bottom of the next treasure.
00:27:42.000 Let's talk about orbits for a second.
00:27:43.000 You talked about you have to know how an orbit works, right?
00:27:45.000 Do you know how an orbit works?
00:27:47.000 Yes.
00:27:48.000 Right.
00:27:48.000 So the whatever it is is falling, but it's moving forward at the same rate as the earth is curving.
00:27:54.000 So it's falling around the earth.
00:27:55.000 So it's perpetually falling.
00:27:55.000 Exactly.
00:27:56.000 So if I dropped something in the atmosphere, it'll speed up until it hits terminal velocity because of the air pressure, right?
00:28:04.000 It'll speed up and have air resistance and slow down.
00:28:06.000 But in a vacuum, things will just keep speeding up.
00:28:13.000 No.
00:28:15.000 Yeah, they will.
00:28:16.000 Yeah.
00:28:17.000 No, there's gravity weakens over time.
00:28:20.000 No, no, no.
00:28:22.000 At whatever height, if we were 50 miles above Earth and it was a vacuum, there was no air on Earth, right?
00:28:27.000 And you drop something, it would speed up until it hit the ground.
00:28:30.000 Until terminal velocity due to air pressure.
00:28:32.000 There is no air.
00:28:33.000 Oh, right, right.
00:28:33.000 I'm saying.
00:28:34.000 Yeah, there's no air.
00:28:35.000 So, a satellite in space that's a geostationary satellite or whatever is at a certain height and it's traveling a certain speed and it's free falling in a vacuum.
00:28:44.000 How come it's not speeding up?
00:28:46.000 What if the thrust just includes a.
00:28:48.000 There's no thrust.
00:28:49.000 It's flowing on its own.
00:28:50.000 It's going.
00:28:51.000 It's launched.
00:28:52.000 It's already going.
00:28:53.000 You know what orbital decay is, right?
00:28:55.000 I understand.
00:28:56.000 It's a theory.
00:28:57.000 There's nothing orbiting.
00:28:59.000 Earth is not a globe.
00:29:01.000 Orbital decay.
00:29:02.000 You're just using words.
00:29:04.000 What that means is the objects are.
00:29:06.000 Are still falling without added energy to reverse the fact they are still falling.
00:29:10.000 They're falling even in a vacuum, so they would be speeding up constantly.
00:29:15.000 And they are.
00:29:15.000 And so what's happening is.
00:29:16.000 If they are, then how do they get there?
00:29:18.000 Let me make the argument first.
00:29:20.000 Let me make the argument for you guys.
00:29:21.000 Instead of arguing nothing, let me give you the argument.
00:29:23.000 Please.
00:29:25.000 An object that is launched into space uses thrust to reach orbit.
00:29:29.000 That is, it has to travel at a certain amount of speed so that it is moving forward as fast as it is falling so it keeps going around.
00:29:35.000 How about you let me finish?
00:29:38.000 Okay, there's no argument.
00:29:39.000 You guys are.
00:29:40.000 Okay, I'll finish.
00:29:41.000 Just clarification orbit is like less than 100 miles away from Earth.
00:29:44.000 I think people should understand.
00:29:45.000 Uh huh.
00:29:46.000 Yeah, so I'm just trying to clarify.
00:29:47.000 Okay, so the point is it is falling and without energy to reverse that fall.
00:29:53.000 Once you launch it into the vacuum of space, it will continually move forward due to inertia, but it will eventually start falling back down because gravity is still pulling on it.
00:30:02.000 How long does a satellite free fall around the Earth?
00:30:04.000 So that's why satellites have to have.
00:30:09.000 Balloons, thrusters they use air pressure release and they have to maintain orbit otherwise there's a lot of how does a thruster work in a vacuum?
00:30:17.000 What do you mean?
00:30:19.000 You could have ionic thrust, you could have propulsion, so every every it's it thrusts off of a fundamental law of thermodynamics.
00:30:26.000 Yeah, but in a vacuum, there's nothing there's no air, so you're not pushing.
00:30:29.000 You don't need to because when you when you shoot a gun, for instance, there's recoil, the air isn't making dynamics.
00:30:35.000 There's the air, the gun, the recoil is pushing off of the gun, the explosion itself is going in all directions, and the only way out is that way.
00:30:42.000 And so there it's pushing off the gun.
00:30:44.000 But if you hit a bullet in midair and there's nothing to push off, it's not going to go anywhere.
00:30:48.000 How come when I go on my skateboard with my leaf blower and turn it on, it blows me forward?
00:30:53.000 It's pushing against the air.
00:30:55.000 Boats push off the water.
00:30:57.000 Airplanes push off the air.
00:30:58.000 Rockets push off of nothing.
00:31:01.000 Well, technically, the vacuum is creating an explosion.
00:31:03.000 There's still stuff happening.
00:31:04.000 And the explosion is nothing to push off of.
00:31:06.000 We've gotten a vacuum chamber.
00:31:07.000 We've gotten like a little mini projectile.
00:31:11.000 We're trying to fly drones.
00:31:13.000 And you light it and it doesn't go anywhere.
00:31:15.000 Right, it doesn't go anywhere until that stream hits the wall and enough gas is in there just to make it move.
00:31:22.000 Right, sounds like you gotta do more tests, yeah.
00:31:24.000 Well, and we probably should do bigger tests, but I'm just saying there's also like vacuum, uh, you know, whatever vacuum capture chambers, whatever the technical term is.
00:31:31.000 Have you guys seen the inertial engine that Mythbusters built?
00:31:35.000 Probably, if this is the EM, the idea was an internal inertial engine was impossible because it would defy the laws of physics.
00:31:43.000 What they did was they made a box, and what it does is it there's a weight.
00:31:48.000 In a box, and there's a piston that it will shoot the piston forward, and then the piston will, like, so, how do I describe this?
00:31:58.000 There's imagine a barbell, and it's loaded in a machine, it shoots forward, but then the end of the barbell hits the wall it's on.
00:32:07.000 The argument was that the shooting of the piston would create equal and opposite energy.
00:32:11.000 Then, when it went forward and hit the front wall, no forward motion, no locomotion is possible.
00:32:17.000 And the Mythbusters actually debunked this, it was amazing.
00:32:19.000 An internal inertial engine that shoots a piston, which then stops it, and that impact caused it to move forward on a boat.
00:32:27.000 So it was just shooting a piston and hitting its own wall, and the boat started moving forward.
00:32:32.000 Yeah, that's how, like, a boat in the ocean near a wall, when the waves come, eventually it will start rocking towards the wall.
00:32:39.000 You might call it the Casimir effect.
00:32:40.000 Another guy named, God, what's his name?
00:32:43.000 He has this quantized inertia theory where he calls it unrah radiation.
00:32:46.000 Is actually, okay, it's a little complicated, but the explanation briefly is behind you, any given moment, there's a horizon far behind you.
00:32:54.000 And the further forward you move, that horizon's following you.
00:32:57.000 It's your perceptual horizon.
00:32:58.000 So there's radiation pushing against you and past you.
00:33:03.000 But the radiation that's hitting you is being blocked.
00:33:05.000 So behind you now, there's a dampening in the radiative field.
00:33:08.000 So this radiation in front of you is higher, the radiation behind you is lower, and you start to get rocked towards that low radiation area.
00:33:15.000 You're being pushed back towards where you're coming from.
00:33:18.000 And this is what he calls conservation of inertia, is why the stars in the galaxy don't go flying off into space as they spin, because they're being pushed back towards where they're coming from.
00:33:34.000 It's an awesome theory.
00:33:35.000 Mike McCulloch is his name.
00:33:36.000 He's a brilliant stationary scientist.
00:33:38.000 That's how people, like thousands of years ago, were able to map the sun, moon, and stars before us, before a telescope.
00:33:43.000 Why are all the stars, why is there no parallax in stars?
00:33:46.000 You go out tonight, take a picture of the stars, and then 10 years from now, go out the same time on the same night, and you take a picture, and they're all the same position.
00:33:54.000 Too far away.
00:33:56.000 There's no parallax.
00:33:57.000 How many miles are we traveling every year, never to return to where we were before?
00:34:01.000 Do you know?
00:34:02.000 The argument would be.
00:34:04.000 And this is the argument the distance of the SARS is so great.
00:34:07.000 So far, there is parallax.
00:34:09.000 Yeah, but you can't see it.
00:34:10.000 But it's right.
00:34:11.000 Just like at a distance, it looks like the plane's not moving at all.
00:34:14.000 We're traveling five and a half trillion miles a year or something like that.
00:34:17.000 And they're quadrillions of miles away.
00:34:19.000 They're quadrillions of miles away.
00:34:21.000 That's a bigger problem because you have an angular resolution limit of your eye on how big you can see something.
00:34:27.000 If the sun, they tell us, is 860,000 miles wide, right?
00:34:30.000 So if we scaled that down, we have a yoga ball as the sun, the earth is like a BB or a marble, right?
00:34:36.000 So, if we took the sun, the size that it is, and brought it a mile over your head, it would fill the whole sky.
00:34:41.000 Would you agree?
00:34:42.000 That's like the marble is right under the yoga ball.
00:34:44.000 The whole sky is the sun.
00:34:47.000 So, we move it 93 million miles away.
00:34:49.000 Now, the sun is how we see it, the size of a coin held at arm's length.
00:34:53.000 With me, it shrank due to perspective.
00:34:55.000 So, if I doubled the distance, it would be a quarter of the size.
00:34:58.000 It would be half the height and half the width.
00:35:00.000 It's called the inverse square law.
00:35:01.000 It wouldn't have to.
00:35:02.000 If I doubled the distance to the sun, it's not going to get smaller.
00:35:02.000 No, no.
00:35:06.000 It's not going to get any smaller?
00:35:07.000 No.
00:35:07.000 Because, like on the flat Earth, when the sun goes to vanishing point, it doesn't shrink at all, like you said.
00:35:11.000 No, no, that's a whole other topic.
00:35:13.000 What's different?
00:35:13.000 We can go there if you want.
00:35:14.000 Well, so how is it that when the sun goes down, the sun doesn't shrink?
00:35:18.000 You said it doesn't have to.
00:35:18.000 Yeah.
00:35:19.000 But now for stars, they do and they will disappear.
00:35:19.000 It does.
00:35:21.000 Well, it does.
00:35:22.000 And it's a perspective thing.
00:35:23.000 It's a longer conversation.
00:35:24.000 I'm happy to have it.
00:35:25.000 But let me make this point, right?
00:35:27.000 So if you double the distance of the sun, it's now the size of like a pencil eraser.
00:35:31.000 So that's twice as far.
00:35:32.000 Four times as far, it's going to get like a 64th of the size that we see it.
00:35:36.000 Eight times as far, it's arguable if you could even see it.
00:35:39.000 It would be small as a star.
00:35:40.000 You with me, Ian?
00:35:41.000 Yeah, sure.
00:35:42.000 Okay, so eight times the distance, it's eight light minutes away.
00:35:45.000 Eight times eight, 64.
00:35:46.000 We'll call that a light hour.
00:35:48.000 Let's just go 24 light hours away.
00:35:51.000 There's no possible way you can see the sun, right?
00:35:54.000 At 24 light hours, one light day away, right?
00:35:56.000 They tell us Polaris, that we can see with our naked eye, that hasn't moved forever.
00:36:01.000 The North Star.
00:36:02.000 The North Star is 46 times bigger than the sun.
00:36:04.000 So if we made Polaris 46 times the distance away, you couldn't see it.
00:36:08.000 46 light days away.
00:36:09.000 Round up, two months.
00:36:10.000 I suppose the argument would be you can because we do.
00:36:13.000 No, no, no.
00:36:14.000 But if we, well, that's silly because you can't see it physically, scientifically, provably.
00:36:21.000 Forget the inverse square law.
00:36:21.000 It is too small.
00:36:22.000 Well, so here's the challenge.
00:36:23.000 Forget the inverse square law.
00:36:24.000 Light issue, you couldn't see it, and they tell us it's 430.
00:36:29.000 Here's the challenge.
00:36:30.000 Light years away.
00:36:31.000 As we know it, there's a star.
00:36:34.000 We are told to believe that it is X amount of miles away and we can see it.
00:36:37.000 You're saying you wouldn't be able to.
00:36:39.000 Yeah, scientifically.
00:36:41.000 So the issue is modern understanding of science says, no, there's a star and you can see it.
00:36:47.000 In order to, it's almost unfalsifiable.
00:36:50.000 No, because when.
00:36:51.000 It's falsifiable.
00:36:52.000 But no, because the evidence is it.
00:36:54.000 You understand what I'm saying?
00:36:55.000 Michikaku.
00:36:56.000 Michikaku says that the.
00:36:56.000 What do you say?
00:37:01.000 Theories they have about space and everything are don't use a scientific method.
00:37:06.000 And they say in science, if you're off by a factor of two or a factor of 10, that's horrible.
00:37:11.000 You're off by a factor of 10.
00:37:12.000 That's horrible.
00:37:14.000 But cosmology is off by a factor of 10 to the 120th power.
00:37:21.000 That number doesn't even exist.
00:37:23.000 And that's Michikaku, who's theoretical.
00:37:26.000 They say they're so far off, it's 10 to the 120th.
00:37:29.000 I don't even believe that because that number doesn't exist.
00:37:31.000 It's too big.
00:37:32.000 It can exist.
00:37:33.000 So, if I had a grain of sand and made it 10 to the 97th power, 10 to the 120th power bigger, it would be 10,000 times bigger than the alleged universe times 10 to the 97th.
00:37:51.000 What's the size of the alleged universe?
00:37:52.000 It's like 13 billion light years.
00:37:54.000 That's another thing, Ian.
00:37:55.000 That's not a size.
00:37:55.000 That's not a.
00:37:56.000 Is it a square?
00:37:57.000 I'm 13 billion light years.
00:37:58.000 How much do you think the Earth weighs?
00:38:02.000 Well, it depends on what the gravity is.
00:38:04.000 You need to.
00:38:04.000 You can't figure that out.
00:38:05.000 But it doesn't matter about gravity.
00:38:06.000 We could never figure it out.
00:38:07.000 Weight is a determination of the gravity of the body that you're measuring.
00:38:10.000 I'm just saying, if you picked up a pound of dirt and you tried to extrapolate that for all the pounds of dirt on Earth mathematically, you could never figure out how much the Earth weighs.
00:38:17.000 Weight?
00:38:18.000 No, you're talking about the mass or the weight?
00:38:19.000 They're different things.
00:38:20.000 The weight, you need a countermeasure to have weight.
00:38:23.000 We could never weigh it, though.
00:38:24.000 But they will tell you.
00:38:25.000 Weight against what?
00:38:26.000 Against the sun?
00:38:27.000 Yeah, but the science will tell us the weight of the Earth.
00:38:30.000 You can tell me the mass of the Earth, the weight.
00:38:32.000 Big problem.
00:38:33.000 What's the scale that you can measure?
00:38:34.000 What if you had another Earth to weigh it on?
00:38:37.000 That's what they're telling us.
00:38:38.000 Okay.
00:38:39.000 You could do that calculation.
00:38:40.000 Yeah.
00:38:40.000 But so that's just pseudoscience.
00:38:41.000 That's nonsense.
00:38:42.000 Nobody can.
00:38:42.000 It's not science because you can't do it.
00:38:44.000 You can't do it.
00:38:45.000 You can't do it.
00:38:46.000 It's unfalsifiable.
00:38:47.000 So it's not science.
00:38:49.000 That's my point about stars.
00:38:51.000 How do you.
00:38:52.000 There's a mathematical formula they present, and you can't disprove them.
00:38:55.000 So I've got a quarter, right?
00:38:58.000 And we have a clear day.
00:38:59.000 We're on the Bolivian Sol Fats.
00:39:00.000 I'm going to go 100 miles away.
00:39:02.000 I'm going to hold it.
00:39:02.000 I understand the point you've made.
00:39:04.000 My point is you can't compare a Tratigillion atom. Solar body to a quarter.
00:39:12.000 One that's emitting massive energy.
00:39:14.000 Science is scalable.
00:39:14.000 Science is scalable.
00:39:16.000 You can't see something that far.
00:39:18.000 And as light goes out, it spreads out and gets weaker and weaker and weaker.
00:39:21.000 Tim, let me use the Shaquille O'Neal reference.
00:39:23.000 And he said this famously on NBA tonight.
00:39:25.000 He's a flat earther, Shaquille O'Neal, great NBA player.
00:39:28.000 Played at LSU where I'm going to be at this weekend.
00:39:30.000 My point is he said, when I go to my backyard in California, I can see the moon every day, every night.
00:39:35.000 But when he's in his backyard, he cannot see Florida.
00:39:35.000 Yep.
00:39:38.000 Okay.
00:39:39.000 What's closure, Florida to the moon?
00:39:41.000 Florida.
00:39:41.000 Of course.
00:39:42.000 But isn't that weird that we can't see?
00:39:44.000 No, it's not.
00:39:45.000 No, because it's curved.
00:39:47.000 My argument is always going to be argue the actual science.
00:39:50.000 Don't argue against something you made up.
00:39:52.000 So, actual science, there is no science of the sky.
00:39:55.000 You cannot science the sky.
00:39:56.000 There are no experiments done on the sky other than observations and assumptions.
00:40:00.000 Indeed.
00:40:01.000 So, my point is instead of just saying because Florida's closer, I shouldn't be able to, and I can't see it, I should see the moon, take what the scientists have claimed and argue their claim, not something you made up.
00:40:11.000 You should be able to say the vaccine saving effect.
00:40:12.000 So, science.
00:40:12.000 Science has claimed the radius of the Earth, and we can see far beyond that radius.
00:40:16.000 You can scream refraction all you want, but there's no experiment that shows something coming up behind a physical object.
00:40:22.000 If you and I were playing hide and go seek and you're ducked behind a hill, what kind of weather system has to come in before you refract above it?
00:40:27.000 In space, you can actually see behind solar bodies.
00:40:30.000 It's not science.
00:40:31.000 You're making up stories.
00:40:32.000 I think lightning.
00:40:33.000 No, but hey, Dave, debunk Israel good because Tim will love this because Tim's favorite, his best friend is Ben Shapiro.
00:40:38.000 And Tim almost signed with the Daily Wire multi million dollar contract.
00:40:41.000 He doesn't want to admit that.
00:40:42.000 But he loves Ben Shapiro so much.
00:40:44.000 Ben Shapiro says that we should have an integrated military with Israel because they created technology that can see over the horizon.
00:40:51.000 Over the horizon.
00:40:51.000 Did you see that?
00:40:52.000 Who said that?
00:40:53.000 They've created technology.
00:40:53.000 Ben Shapiro.
00:40:54.000 They've created technology. 0.99
00:40:56.000 They should be connected with Israel's because they just created plain technology. 0.92
00:41:01.000 Where their fighter jets can see over the horizon. 0.99
00:41:03.000 So I have two guys.
00:41:04.000 But we got World War II debunks that.
00:41:06.000 Tell them how World War II debunks that, though.
00:41:07.000 So there's so many ways.
00:41:09.000 There's the, I think it's Israel or the, or Europe, someone, some military has, it's called the Royal Samson radar.
00:41:17.000 And it could detect a thousand baseball size objects moving at faster than the speed of sound at over 250 miles away.
00:41:29.000 Well, 250 miles away, you can't see.
00:41:31.000 But this radar that needs line of sight.
00:41:34.000 Can track these things at that distance.
00:41:36.000 So that's just like you saying, whatever you said before, that they developed the, oh, you said, the develop the radar, develop the, where they could see, they get over the radar, over the horizon.
00:41:47.000 Verizon is your horrible eye zone.
00:41:48.000 That's what I got to say.
00:41:49.000 This is what I got to say about these conspiracyclical earth curvature.
00:41:52.000 Oh, I know.
00:41:53.000 I want to hear what Tim has to say.
00:41:54.000 When we were talking with, we had two discussions with the Daily Wire.
00:41:58.000 One, we literally were at the Daily Wire's office, and I publicly said in the show, we're talking with the Daily Wire about a deal.
00:42:04.000 Yeah.
00:42:04.000 And then I had another negotiation, and I said, Yeah, we've been talking with the Daily Wire.
00:42:08.000 It's not a secret.
00:42:09.000 We just never did anything with it.
00:42:10.000 I didn't say it was a secret.
00:42:11.000 You said Tim doesn't want to admit that he almost signed the contract.
00:42:13.000 It's a huge story.
00:42:14.000 Of course, Tim's talking about that.
00:42:15.000 We're trying to talk about that.
00:42:16.000 No, there was a story that the Daily Wire already acquired part of this company, and that I was doing a deal that was not true and never happened.
00:42:22.000 I was talking about that.
00:42:23.000 Yeah, I know.
00:42:24.000 Okay, but I misrepresented what you said.
00:42:25.000 But now there's going to be a lot of people who only heard that for the first time.
00:42:28.000 Okay, let me clarify.
00:42:28.000 I swear.
00:42:29.000 And actually, Tim had nothing negative to say about the Daily Wire.
00:42:33.000 It's already clipped.
00:42:34.000 Yeah, I got you.
00:42:36.000 And Alice Jones.
00:42:37.000 They're going to be like, look, Alex Stein's called them out to his face. 0.99
00:42:39.000 And Shapiro is a gay Jew. 0.93
00:42:40.000 But that's neither here nor there. 0.97
00:42:42.000 By the way, Judy Resnick was the first Jewish woman in space.
00:42:44.000 Exactly.
00:42:45.000 I got two clarification suggestions.
00:42:45.000 Thank you.
00:42:48.000 Light bending around objects in space is called gravitational lensing.
00:42:51.000 According to this quick search, it happens because massive objects warp the fabric of space time itself.
00:42:55.000 We go deep into what that means.
00:42:57.000 The second thing is the reason why fuel propellant works in space is because it's not pushing off of another object.
00:43:02.000 It itself is gas being thrust out, so it's producing the reverse.
00:43:07.000 When we do an experiment in a vacuum chamber, it doesn't work.
00:43:09.000 So that's just a claim, and we tested the claim.
00:43:12.000 Look it up.
00:43:12.000 There's like all these you just say, just say rocket propellant, yeah, like trying to make a drone work in a vacuum chamber, trying to make all kinds of things work in a vacuum chamber.
00:43:21.000 But first of all, we don't have to get into that because I know Tim doesn't want us to hijack this whole episode.
00:43:25.000 But like, you want to hear what to be fair?
00:43:27.000 I don't want to just spend the whole episode talking about flat earth.
00:43:29.000 We got to talk about aliens and ghosts.
00:43:29.000 I agree.
00:43:31.000 But no, but rockets work fun.
00:43:34.000 But Dave, Dave, you're Googling, you're Googling into things wrong with your, yeah, but what's Hold on, hold on.
00:43:43.000 I'm going to call Ben Shapiro.
00:43:45.000 Call Ben.
00:43:45.000 Yeah, you said that.
00:43:46.000 We need to hear Ben right now.
00:43:47.000 No.
00:43:48.000 It says that rocket can't generate thrust in a total vacuum with no propellant, but the propellant itself is the matter it's pushing off of.
00:43:54.000 It is a total vacuum.
00:43:55.000 That's a claim that's untestable.
00:43:57.000 It is testable, and when we test it, it doesn't work.
00:44:00.000 So, wait, it's a claim that's been falsified.
00:44:01.000 What's the test?
00:44:02.000 How come when a fire extinguisher sprays, it gets cold?
00:44:05.000 Yeah, you need to.
00:44:05.000 If you're going to say there are tests that failed, you need to tell me what that dust is.
00:44:09.000 It's spraying carbon dioxide that's being.
00:44:11.000 Don't tell me to go high pressure and low pressure really quick.
00:44:11.000 No, no, no, no.
00:44:14.000 Prove your statement.
00:44:15.000 So, what is it doing?
00:44:16.000 It's a changing the pressure.
00:44:18.000 Okay, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:44:18.000 This is a.
00:44:20.000 I'm putting you guys on the spot.
00:44:21.000 Please.
00:44:22.000 How come when you spray a fire extinguisher, it gets cold?
00:44:25.000 I mean, what is the chemical in the fire extinguisher?
00:44:27.000 Carbon dioxide.
00:44:28.000 Carbon dioxide, yeah.
00:44:28.000 I mean, so why is it getting cold?
00:44:30.000 Because it's expanding, it's going from high pressure to low pressure.
00:44:33.000 I think that's it, but I'm not even clear about that.
00:44:36.000 Why does that make it cold?
00:44:37.000 Low pressure is cold.
00:44:38.000 I've sprayed through fire hydrants.
00:44:40.000 They didn't get that cold.
00:44:41.000 It's because when you have like a liquid propellant, a liquid propellant that would prefer to be in a gaseous state at our atmospheric pressure, when you press it, It rapidly expands.
00:44:57.000 Gases contain more energy.
00:44:59.000 What is it?
00:45:01.000 It absorbs atmospheric energy in order to go from a fluid state into a gaseous state.
00:45:10.000 That is the energy around, which is the warm air.
00:45:14.000 It sucks the heat out into its molecules to vibrate faster, creating a gas.
00:45:18.000 That's why it feels colder because the energy is changing.
00:45:20.000 Why does water boil in a vacuum chamber?
00:45:22.000 Because most things boil or break down.
00:45:26.000 Because they're trying to equal it.
00:45:28.000 So, why doesn't all of our oceans and atmosphere boil?
00:45:31.000 Because we're in a vacuum.
00:45:32.000 Atmospheric pressure.
00:45:33.000 Okay, but pressure requires a container where you're pushing on the wall.
00:45:37.000 So, where is the container?
00:45:39.000 We just got Tim.
00:45:40.000 We already got Tim.
00:45:41.000 We already got Tim.
00:45:41.000 You got me.
00:45:42.000 Can you bring me gas using magnetic?
00:45:44.000 Dave, Dave, we can contain gas.
00:45:47.000 I can give you a bowl of gas.
00:45:48.000 No, no, no.
00:45:49.000 Yes.
00:45:50.000 Without a container?
00:45:51.000 I can bring you a bowl of gas, I said.
00:45:53.000 A bowl?
00:45:54.000 No, you can't.
00:45:55.000 A bowl?
00:45:55.000 That's a container.
00:45:56.000 Tim.
00:45:57.000 I didn't say no.
00:45:57.000 I know.
00:45:58.000 I said, I could bring you a bowl of gas.
00:45:59.000 I believe that we live in a pressurized system.
00:46:00.000 Yes.
00:46:01.000 Okay.
00:46:02.000 We have atmospheric pressure.
00:46:03.000 And what is the second theory or law of thermodynamics, Dave?
00:46:07.000 The law of pressure is you need to, the definition of pressure is the walls of the container that the gas presses.
00:46:14.000 So here's a question for you guys How come at higher altitudes the pressure is weaker?
00:46:16.000 Exactly.
00:46:17.000 Why does it leak out to space?
00:46:18.000 I'll give you two examples.
00:46:19.000 It does leak out to space.
00:46:20.000 But not so much that there's no pressure.
00:46:20.000 I'll give you two examples.
00:46:22.000 Wait a minute.
00:46:22.000 We're told it leaks out to space.
00:46:24.000 No one, nobody here, Alex, or you, or me, or anyone, has any proof that that's true.
00:46:28.000 That's not true.
00:46:29.000 I took a handful of my gas and held it up real high and drifted off into space.
00:46:32.000 Thank God for that.
00:46:34.000 Okay.
00:46:35.000 Like, where did it go?
00:46:36.000 So, it went to the moon, I guess.
00:46:38.000 Magnetic confinement is how matter is contained in the Earth's atmosphere.
00:46:41.000 Through it, first it pressurizes, it turns it into plasma, which at some point the Earth was probably a ball of plasma, and then it slowly cools down.
00:46:47.000 So, therefore, gas is contained in our atmosphere, therefore, that must be true.
00:46:52.000 Or we're contained inside of an enclosure, like I believe.
00:46:55.000 Did you ever put what is it?
00:46:56.000 Sodium hexam phosphate or whatever?
00:46:59.000 Sodium hexofluoride.
00:47:00.000 It's a fluoride.
00:47:01.000 Yeah.
00:47:01.000 That's cool.
00:47:02.000 They bring it out in a container, they pour it into a container, they put a top on that container, they float the boat on it.
00:47:06.000 Yeah.
00:47:07.000 If you took the top off, the whole thing will mix.
00:47:08.000 Output transcript Out and will all be gone within minutes.
00:47:10.000 No, no, no, no.
00:47:11.000 I've stayed in there for a long time.
00:47:13.000 Well, it's because it's a gas, you can knock it out easily, but they put aluminum foil on top and it floats.
00:47:18.000 Yeah, it floats for a while, but not for long.
00:47:21.000 It will mix in.
00:47:22.000 So you asked the question: denser gases going lower than less dense gases does not debunk flat earth for you.
00:47:32.000 No.
00:47:33.000 You don't have to argue that you can't contain the sodium.
00:47:35.000 No, no, no, but it does.
00:47:36.000 But you believe that denser gases go down, right?
00:47:39.000 Dense, everything dense goes down.
00:47:41.000 Okay, so if something weighed 500 tons, would it go down?
00:47:45.000 Yes.
00:47:45.000 The average cloud weighs 500 tons.
00:47:47.000 Indeed.
00:47:48.000 Why does it go down?
00:47:49.000 Why does it float on the air?
00:47:50.000 Because you're saying a gigantic gaseous body, which is spread out massively into a large volume.
00:47:55.000 Does water vapor have more density than dry air?
00:47:58.000 I believe, yes.
00:48:00.000 Okay, so how does a cloud containing millions of gallons of water float in the air?
00:48:04.000 Sometimes it falls down in rain.
00:48:05.000 That's when it turns into a raindrop.
00:48:07.000 Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:48:08.000 Do you believe in the ozone layer?
00:48:11.000 Believe in is a, I would say I have read about and have been told about the existence of ozone.
00:48:17.000 Right, right.
00:48:18.000 So, but ozone's heavier than oxygen, so why isn't it on the ground?
00:48:21.000 Because heavier doesn't necessarily.
00:48:23.000 So let's slow down.
00:48:24.000 A cloud is heavy in total mass, but volume is low.
00:48:27.000 So a low volume object with great mass is still low density, is going to go up.
00:48:32.000 Like a cruise ship in the ocean.
00:48:32.000 Yeah.
00:48:33.000 So all of the moisture in the cloud, which is more dense than dry air, floats on dry air.
00:48:39.000 Okay, let's try this.
00:48:41.000 A cruise ship, which weighs millions of tons, floats on water.
00:48:45.000 How's that going to work?
00:48:45.000 Because its overall density is less than the water it's displacing.
00:48:48.000 Correct.
00:48:49.000 So a giant cloud's overall density.
00:48:51.000 How is it less than the air?
00:48:52.000 It's displacement. 0.95
00:48:53.000 Let's just take a piece of the cloud.
00:48:54.000 We got a piece of the cloud this big, and it's fake.
00:48:56.000 Do you think clouds are fake or what?
00:48:58.000 No, clouds aren't what we're told, but they're more dense.
00:49:02.000 Talk about air pumps.
00:49:03.000 Electrostatics.
00:49:04.000 Electrostatics sort of all this out.
00:49:06.000 But you asked why it gets colder or less pressure as you go higher, right?
00:49:11.000 We live in a dynamic system.
00:49:13.000 The heat comes from the ground, not from the sun.
00:49:16.000 The sun heats the ground, but that's where the heat is generated.
00:49:21.000 As you go up, it gets colder.
00:49:23.000 Because the air and the air gets thinner, colder, you get less pressure.
00:49:26.000 Yeah, and then there's also a theory out there that people have been looking into that we live in this, um, in this uh, the in this electric environment where there's all this energy here, provable, provably, and the electricity in the air scatters the gases.
00:49:42.000 Well, the higher up you go, the more energy there is.
00:49:44.000 Every meter up is 100 volts more.
00:49:47.000 So, as you're tapped into it, right?
00:49:48.000 Yeah, well, we tap it, it happens all the time.
00:49:50.000 But anyone has a drone, get some really thin wire and hang it from your drone, and when it's hanging in the air, grab that wire, you'll get electrocuted.
00:49:57.000 It's just from all the energy in the air.
00:49:59.000 So, as you go up, you have more and more electricity.
00:50:02.000 You have colder temperatures.
00:50:03.000 We live in a dynamic system.
00:50:05.000 We can get a tank of gas and there'd be more pressure on the bottom than there is on the top in an enclosed tank.
00:50:11.000 So, pressure gradients do exist in containers.
00:50:14.000 I've just never seen pressure without a container.
00:50:18.000 You ever see they make clouds inside of buildings?
00:50:21.000 We have that problem here actually sometimes because this building is 38 feet tall.
00:50:21.000 Yeah.
00:50:28.000 The building we're in right now is the small building in the building.
00:50:30.000 But the main metal structure is 38 feet tall and 75 by 100.
00:50:35.000 And so we get moisture buildup, and you can actually see it start forming, not like a cloud.
00:50:39.000 You see the lines of moisture start forming.
00:50:41.000 You have your studio at 68 degrees, which I love.
00:50:44.000 No, no, no, no.
00:50:45.000 I'm saying outside the room, you can actually see the line of where it's like you're in a separated medium and the water is up.
00:50:54.000 Because it gets hotter.
00:50:54.000 Yeah.
00:50:55.000 This says that it's grass.
00:50:56.000 I mean, I don't know the answer.
00:50:57.000 This is the reason there's gas in Earth's atmosphere primarily because of gravity.
00:51:01.000 Yeah, but we can do a simple experiment.
00:51:04.000 What they got the vacuum of space is unable to pull the air up and away, but I can point my straw down, and with the tiny bit of low pressure difference of my mouth and lungs, I can pull air and water up and away from gravity effortlessly.
00:51:15.000 Why can't the space vacuum do it?
00:51:17.000 Probably because the acute uh pressure of your sucking relative to the amount of water you're pulling is greater than the earth's the vacuum of space.
00:51:25.000 No, the vacuum of space, we can't even recreate that here mathematically.
00:51:29.000 Like us trying to drink a straw compared to the expanse of space, dude, they would have more pressure, air on earth would go.
00:51:37.000 And we'd all be dead instantly.
00:51:38.000 It sounds like you're guessing.
00:51:40.000 No, that's not guessing.
00:51:40.000 Gravity is pretty strong, especially near the center, near the core, near the surface.
00:51:44.000 Near the surface.
00:51:45.000 So if I got a box of air and I got a box of air and I brought it into a room on the earth that's a vacuum, so there's no air on the outside of it, and I poked a hole in the top, is the gravity going to hold the air in there?
00:51:56.000 No, if you had a little ball inside that box that was super gravitational, the air would stay inside the box.
00:52:02.000 What about the gravity?
00:52:03.000 Forget the little ball.
00:52:04.000 I got the whole earth's gravity holding the air down.
00:52:06.000 If you had a box of gas and you took it into a vacuum and you poked a hole, all the gas would go into the vacuum.
00:52:11.000 But if you had a box of gas with a circle in it, a sphere that was a magnetic gravitational dot, and then you poked a hole, the gas would not escape into the vacuum.
00:52:20.000 Oh, that's a good point.
00:52:21.000 He's right.
00:52:21.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:52:22.000 That is a horrible point.
00:52:23.000 No offense.
00:52:24.000 But you're making up a story to defend your belief, and it's something that's unfalsifiable because you cannot do it.
00:52:29.000 Yeah, Ian, electrostatics are fake.
00:52:31.000 No, we believe in electrostatics.
00:52:33.000 No, no, no, because Ian's made the point that an electrically charged object would hold a gas to it in a vacuum.
00:52:37.000 He said it's not true.
00:52:38.000 It's gravitational.
00:52:39.000 This is what Claude's saying.
00:52:40.000 You can't bring me gas with gravity.
00:52:42.000 You can't bring me water without a container using just gravity.
00:52:46.000 You can't do any of those things.
00:52:47.000 These are claims that you guys make, and none of them are.
00:52:50.000 Provable andor falsifiable.
00:52:52.000 What do you mean you can't bring water without?
00:52:56.000 Bring me a gallon of water without a container.
00:52:58.000 So, can I bring you this clicker without a container?
00:53:02.000 Yes, it's a physical object.
00:53:03.000 I'm talking about liquid.
00:53:04.000 Water's not physical.
00:53:05.000 Water's a liquid.
00:53:05.000 What you're saying?
00:53:06.000 Shoot it at them with a hose. 1.00
00:53:08.000 The point is. 1.00
00:53:08.000 But hold on. 1.00
00:53:09.000 But I don't need a container.
00:53:10.000 Ian, please.
00:53:10.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:53:11.000 I can put water in my hand and hand it to you.
00:53:13.000 That's a container.
00:53:14.000 And so you need a container for a solid object that's all the same?
00:53:16.000 No.
00:53:17.000 No, there it is.
00:53:18.000 What's the difference between me cupping my hand to hold this in place and the water being held in place?
00:53:21.000 Because you're holding it with a container, but it doesn't need a container.
00:53:24.000 So, how do I give it to you with no container?
00:53:25.000 You can toss it to me.
00:53:26.000 That would require my hand to hold the water.
00:53:28.000 Something physical throwing it to me and me catching it.
00:53:31.000 A physical object cannot interact with another physical object without a physical object intermediate.
00:53:34.000 I'm not talking about that.
00:53:34.000 I'm talking about liquid water.
00:53:36.000 Water always finds its level.
00:53:38.000 Water at rest, at rest, large bodies of water at rest always find level no matter how far you go.
00:53:45.000 70% of the earth is covered with ocean.
00:53:47.000 50% of the ocean is the abyssal plane, which is flat.
00:53:51.000 There's no curvature.
00:53:55.000 Thousand miles away.
00:53:56.000 See, lightning storms a thousand miles away.
00:53:58.000 That's 75 miles of curvature.
00:54:01.000 Do you have a pilot's license?
00:54:02.000 Of curvature.
00:54:03.000 I do not.
00:54:03.000 You should get one.
00:54:06.000 But then they'll say, crazy flat earther crashes.
00:54:09.000 I was going to say, you could go up and you could film and you could record all the stuff.
00:54:12.000 I've been on plenty of planes and stuff.
00:54:14.000 But like when I was flying, I was like, man, it looks flat out here.
00:54:17.000 Why don't you go to space?
00:54:19.000 Because space is fake.
00:54:20.000 Let me ask you a question.
00:54:22.000 What if I had the, I have connections with the head of Warner Brothers or whatever studio it is that does Narnia.
00:54:27.000 And they're going to let you go into the closet in the Narnia.
00:54:30.000 Would you go?
00:54:31.000 Would you go?
00:54:31.000 Whoa.
00:54:32.000 Well, yeah.
00:54:33.000 Well, you're being a child because you know Narnia's not real.
00:54:36.000 Well, you said it's a movie studio.
00:54:38.000 They're going to let you go to the actual Narnia.
00:54:40.000 See, that's a different question.
00:54:41.000 Okay, that's.
00:54:42.000 You said if a movie studio said you want to come to the set of Narnia, I'd be like, oh, that sounds cool.
00:54:45.000 I'm going to give you an analogy to say, do you want to go to space?
00:54:47.000 I want it.
00:54:48.000 No, no, no. 1.00
00:54:48.000 Dace is fake and gay. 1.00
00:54:49.000 Oh, hold on. 1.00
00:54:50.000 So if someone came to you and said, I can get you on a boat and bring you to Agartha beyond the ice wall, you'd believe it?
00:54:55.000 No, I wouldn't believe it. 1.00
00:54:56.000 Agartha's fake and gay too. 1.00
00:54:57.000 It might be. 1.00
00:54:59.000 I just wanted to.
00:55:00.000 If I felt safe, I'd love to.
00:55:01.000 Can we talk about aliens or ghosts?
00:55:02.000 Yeah, but I wanted to just clarify what you're saying about the box in the vacuum because I don't want to misrepresent what you were saying.
00:55:06.000 Yes, yes.
00:55:06.000 You said if there was a box of gas and you took it into a vacuum and poked a hole in it, that the gas would escape violently, yes.
00:55:11.000 But if you had, then I added, if you had a ball in the center of the box and it had a solid gravity.
00:55:15.000 And it has gravity.
00:55:16.000 Unprovable claim.
00:55:16.000 Well, it's the metaphor of the Earth.
00:55:19.000 Unprovable claim.
00:55:20.000 Putting it within the box of the atmosphere.
00:55:21.000 But it's an unprovable claim, so you can't use that.
00:55:23.000 I'm sorry.
00:55:24.000 I mean, I'm offering a counter to your claim.
00:55:26.000 Well, your counter is something that you can't do.
00:55:29.000 My offer is something that you can't.
00:55:30.000 But also, your metaphor doesn't explain Earth's atmosphere.
00:55:33.000 It's a difference.
00:55:33.000 No, it's an empty box.
00:55:35.000 Its atmosphere would be a box with a thing in it, which is the Earth.
00:55:38.000 Yeah, so I've got the air on the Earth.
00:55:41.000 The gravity of the Earth should hold the air in the box, but it never does.
00:55:44.000 If there was an Earth in the box, it would.
00:55:47.000 What difference does it make if the Earth is in the box or below the box?
00:55:50.000 You need gravity to pull the gas into the box from within.
00:55:53.000 So it can only pull it from all directions.
00:55:55.000 It can't pull it down.
00:55:56.000 Correct.
00:55:56.000 Earth is pulling gas from every direction towards the center.
00:55:59.000 Okay.
00:56:01.000 That is a claim that you absolutely cannot prove.
00:56:05.000 And I disagree with it.
00:56:06.000 Well, no, but here's the thing.
00:56:08.000 Respectfully.
00:56:09.000 The argument about not being able to prove it, this is why I keep saying argue the claims made, because the claim is notice how everything falls.
00:56:16.000 That's gravity.
00:56:17.000 You're saying you can't prove it.
00:56:17.000 It's like, what do you mean?
00:56:18.000 I can, gravity's there.
00:56:19.000 What about a balloon?
00:56:20.000 What about a balloon?
00:56:21.000 So, the issue is you're not disproving it, saying you can't prove it.
00:56:25.000 You're saying when I pick something up and drop it.
00:56:27.000 He's making a claim about air staying in a box if you had a dense ball of gravity.
00:56:31.000 That's something you can't prove.
00:56:33.000 Now, we can prove that this goes down because of buoyancy and density.
00:56:37.000 We can make things go up by putting a negative charge into them.
00:56:40.000 We can make things go down heavier.
00:56:42.000 How does buoyancy work without gravity?
00:56:44.000 It works with electrostatics.
00:56:45.000 There's an electrostatic flow from the sky down, right?
00:56:49.000 So, weights here and there.
00:56:50.000 Coherent flow of electricity from the positive sky to the neutral and negative ground.
00:56:54.000 And if you only have a positive or a negative, the energy is erratic.
00:56:58.000 But when you have both, it's.
00:56:59.000 Are you saying that heavier objects have more charge?
00:57:02.000 It depends.
00:57:03.000 It depends.
00:57:04.000 Like that little spinning thing is floating.
00:57:06.000 It's floating on magnetics, I assume, right?
00:57:08.000 Yeah.
00:57:09.000 So is it defying what's it doing?
00:57:10.000 Is it defying electrostatics or is it defying gravity?
00:57:13.000 Neither.
00:57:14.000 What's it doing?
00:57:15.000 It's being pushed.
00:57:16.000 It's being pushed up by magnetism.
00:57:18.000 So there's a series of magnets all end in a ring.
00:57:20.000 What's telling it to go down if I make that magnet disappear?
00:57:23.000 You say gravity, I say electrostatics.
00:57:25.000 I can test my claim.
00:57:26.000 You cannot test your claim.
00:57:27.000 I think gravity is a force.
00:57:29.000 How do you test the electrostatics on that device?
00:57:31.000 Well, I can test the electrostatics.
00:57:32.000 Everything has electrostatic charge.
00:57:34.000 I don't have a tester.
00:57:34.000 Everything.
00:57:35.000 But how does that prove movement towards the earth?
00:57:39.000 You can't prove that.
00:57:40.000 Yeah, we can.
00:57:41.000 We can manipulate things by adding a higher positive charge.
00:57:44.000 They'll go up.
00:57:45.000 At a negative charge, they go up.
00:57:47.000 At a positive charge, they go down.
00:57:49.000 Is this documented?
00:57:50.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:57:51.000 What do I search for?
00:57:51.000 I have many videos.
00:57:52.000 Well, on my app, if you go to the gravity section, there's a whole bunch of videos on it.
00:57:56.000 It'd be.
00:57:57.000 It'll be tough for you to find.
00:57:58.000 But Tim, think about a balloon.
00:57:59.000 How is that an anti gravity machine?
00:58:02.000 A balloon, a helium balloon.
00:58:02.000 What?
00:58:03.000 Why does it go up?
00:58:04.000 Why does it go up?
00:58:07.000 Buoyancy and density.
00:58:08.000 Buoyancy and density.
00:58:09.000 Buoyancy and density.
00:58:10.000 So that means, yeah, so gravity, I'm saying you're going to argue buoyancy and.
00:58:14.000 Buoyancy and density, you can't do gravity.
00:58:16.000 The way that buoyancy works is gravity.
00:58:17.000 Yeah, I got it.
00:58:18.000 So everything's being pulled down.
00:58:20.000 So the denser weight is compressing and the lighter things can't push it away.
00:58:24.000 That's your story.
00:58:25.000 Got it.
00:58:26.000 I say the reason things go down is because of buoyancy and density.
00:58:26.000 Right?
00:58:30.000 Being being directed by electrostatic, that's called electrostatic levitation.
00:58:34.000 Electrostatics, that right there.
00:58:35.000 We have proof, you know, they say no, no, the UFO on the desk is called electrostatic gravity.
00:58:39.000 Great, so it's not defined gravity, it's using electrostatics to go up.
00:58:43.000 My claim is buoyancy and density use electrostatics as their base of actually, that's probably just magnetic levitation.
00:58:49.000 And actually, I think there's a good example.
00:58:50.000 I don't know, Dave, do you ever talk about spiders?
00:58:52.000 You know, spiders look like they're flying.
00:58:54.000 I wait a minute, ballooning spiders.
00:58:56.000 This is NASA conspiracy stuff.
00:58:57.000 You guys are with NASA.
00:58:59.000 No, we're not.
00:59:00.000 Electrostatic experimentation is not a NASA space agency, but Tim.
00:59:04.000 Look at this.
00:59:05.000 You guys are just spewing NASA propaganda.
00:59:08.000 Yes.
00:59:08.000 In a way, we are, because we have to use our own verbiage.
00:59:08.000 You guys are controlling it.
00:59:11.000 But, Tim, your claim is gravity, which is unprovable, and it hasn't been proven.
00:59:15.000 It's never been isolated.
00:59:16.000 And our claim is electrostatics, which have been proven, have been tested, and you can do it yourself.
00:59:20.000 We had Wei Ping Yu on the show, ex NASA scientist, talking about it.
00:59:23.000 I mean, I think you look at Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism and you look at Newton's equations of gravity, it's the same equation.
00:59:30.000 They use the same equation.
00:59:31.000 He's the one that said that gravity is more of electrostatics.
00:59:35.000 For sure.
00:59:36.000 Makes a lot of sense.
00:59:36.000 Okay.
00:59:37.000 So they're slowly transitioning to get people used to the electrostatics thing so one day they can flip the switch and go, yeah, it's always been electrostatics.
00:59:43.000 What's wrong with you?
00:59:45.000 But do you think they're getting out and they're trying to get out in front of it?
00:59:45.000 That's.
00:59:48.000 You do think it's a magnetic field that is making everything happen?
00:59:51.000 It's been any time.
00:59:52.000 I'm waiting for Tony to just break the door down.
00:59:52.000 I know.
00:59:54.000 No one's going to ask you anything.
00:59:54.000 So what are ghosts?
00:59:55.000 The earth is flat.
00:59:56.000 It's fine.
00:59:56.000 Oh, it's fine.
00:59:57.000 I don't know how this is going to be.
00:59:58.000 This is a ghost.
00:59:58.000 Tony, what are ghosts?
00:59:59.000 They're from the Nephilim.
00:59:59.000 Hold on.
01:00:00.000 If the earth is flat, how do we have ghosts?
01:00:03.000 I'll tell you exactly.
01:00:04.000 So it comes to the Nephilim.
01:00:05.000 So what happened is that 30 of the angels, that's why 33 is a famous number Is because a third of the angels were cast out of heaven and these became, you know, earth walking angels. 0.85
01:00:15.000 They had sex with human beings.
01:00:17.000 They occurred to the Nephilim, these giants. 0.77
01:00:18.000 The Bible says that.
01:00:20.000 And the Nephilim, when they die, they can't go to heaven.
01:00:22.000 So their demons, their spirits are actually stuck on this earth realm.
01:00:26.000 And those are what we consider modern day demons.
01:00:28.000 So there are people that were before us, whether you want to call them dinosaurs or Nephilim or giants, whatever.
01:00:34.000 People can make different arguments for what they think that that was.
01:00:36.000 But their spirits aren't able to go to heaven.
01:00:38.000 So they're stuck here on earth to haunt us every day for the rest of the day.
01:00:41.000 Why do they do that?
01:00:42.000 To guard us?
01:00:42.000 Like, do they have benevolent intentions and then they just.
01:00:44.000 No, because they're like a demonic being.
01:00:46.000 They're not pure like humans.
01:00:47.000 So they can't get into heaven.
01:00:48.000 Well, it's the spirit that resided in the Nephilim that is what they're identifying now as demonic.
01:00:54.000 It's like the same reason that demons can't get into heaven because they haven't.
01:00:57.000 Let me ask you this.
01:00:58.000 Because they were cast out of heaven.
01:01:01.000 So, you know about.
01:01:02.000 We talked about this before with the short season, Satan's little season.
01:01:06.000 Oh, Satan's little season?
01:01:07.000 Yeah, yeah, Satan's little season.
01:01:09.000 So, in 1776, France gave us a Statue of Liberty.
01:01:11.000 That's the story, whether it was on that date or not, but it was for 1776.
01:01:16.000 And the story is that Satan.
01:01:19.000 That the millennial reign of Christ for a thousand years happened already, and we're not waiting for it to happen.
01:01:24.000 And so now we're in Satan's short season.
01:01:26.000 Well, a season's a quarter of a great year, which is a thousand years.
01:01:30.000 So it's 250 years.
01:01:31.000 1776 plus 250 years is what year is that, Alex Stein?
01:01:37.000 2026.
01:01:39.000 And now France just gave America another 50 foot something bronze statue of not of Lucifer this time, this time of Prometheus.
01:01:49.000 And it's being built at the SpaceX property.
01:01:52.000 And we know that.
01:01:53.000 Wow.
01:01:53.000 Yeah, right now.
01:01:54.000 I just want to point something out.
01:01:55.000 At CERN, they have apparently a Shiva.
01:01:58.000 Shiva.
01:01:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:01:59.000 The Hindu god of destruction and transformation. 1.00
01:02:01.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:02:02.000 Which I understand because they're destroying, you know, the helicopter.
01:02:05.000 Do you know how many helicopter?
01:02:07.000 But have you seen the leaked footage where they're doing a ritual outside of CERN?
01:02:11.000 They're wearing robes.
01:02:12.000 Yeah, it looks like a fraternity, you know, spanking fest.
01:02:14.000 They're literally all wearing robes or doing a ceremony outside of CERN.
01:02:17.000 Somebody was in a neighboring hotel and filmed this, and that person actually got like arrested or something for even a Exposing it.
01:02:23.000 I think it's a true story, but I can't prove it's true.
01:02:23.000 That's the story.
01:02:25.000 But I know exactly what you're talking about.
01:02:27.000 I want to believe it's true, but I don't have proof that it is true.
01:02:30.000 And I don't want to derail, but it's weird that they're using a Hindu religious thing at a scientific fact.
01:02:36.000 So everyone knows about CERN, right?
01:02:39.000 Do you know there's a website that has all of the particle colliders on the world?
01:02:43.000 Do you know how many there are?
01:02:44.000 There's like 10,000 of them.
01:02:46.000 There's a lot.
01:02:46.000 Yeah, there's a lot.
01:02:47.000 It's crazy.
01:02:49.000 But when they turned off CERN, things got weirder.
01:02:51.000 I honestly think they should turn it back.
01:02:52.000 I personally.
01:02:54.000 I know that's what I'm saying.
01:02:54.000 Chilled out.
01:02:55.000 And they turned it off recently.
01:02:57.000 No, no, I'm saying when they stopped using it, everything got boring and everyone stopped caring about stuff.
01:02:57.000 They just turned it off.
01:03:01.000 You can turn electricity into matter.
01:03:02.000 We haven't had news, and this whole summer has been done.
01:03:05.000 There's no riots.
01:03:06.000 Please turn it off. 1.00
01:03:07.000 Through what's called a hadron. 1.00
01:03:08.000 Give us something to talk about.
01:03:09.000 They turn electrons into taus, and then the taus turn into hadrons, and then the hadrons basically are three quarks.
01:03:14.000 Those three quarks is what I'm saying.
01:03:15.000 Can you believe this brainwashed guy?
01:03:16.000 He believes all this.
01:03:18.000 I don't.
01:03:18.000 I'm not an atomism guy.
01:03:19.000 I'm not a.
01:03:20.000 I don't believe in atomism.
01:03:21.000 You can turn protons into electricity, and you can turn electricity into protons, matter.
01:03:26.000 It's crazy.
01:03:26.000 So, you know, solar panels work, right?
01:03:29.000 You know, solar panels work?
01:03:30.000 Because scientists don't know how they work.
01:03:30.000 Yeah.
01:03:32.000 They have an explanation for it.
01:03:33.000 Well, their explanation is that a photon took a billion years to come from the center of the sun to the surface of the sun.
01:03:39.000 Then it took eight and a half minutes to get to Earth and it crashes into the silicon cell and it knocks an electron out and then a boron molecule out and an electron jumps in and it keeps doing that and it makes a current, right?
01:03:49.000 The reason they can't, and that's just the theory, they really don't know how it works.
01:03:53.000 The reason they can't figure it out is because they think the sun is a burning ball of gas 93 million miles away when in fact it's literally a transformer from another dimension.
01:04:00.000 That's a.
01:04:01.000 Well, they don't think it's a burning ball again.
01:04:02.000 Well, they.
01:04:04.000 I fusion react.
01:04:05.000 That's why I just shorten it up with burning ball.
01:04:05.000 I fusion react.
01:04:09.000 What is the professor's name?
01:04:10.000 He's spacing on me for a second.
01:04:12.000 It'll come to me.
01:04:13.000 Bill Nye?
01:04:14.000 Neil the Grass Kaiser?
01:04:14.000 No, no, no.
01:04:15.000 A real.
01:04:16.000 Bill Nye says girls can become boys and vice versa.
01:04:19.000 He has a mechanical engineering degree.
01:04:21.000 He's not even a science teacher.
01:04:22.000 I can't think of his name right now.
01:04:23.000 I'll yell it out later in a non sequitur.
01:04:25.000 But let's just say the sun is sending electricity to the earth and the solar panels are just collecting it.
01:04:33.000 It's that simple.
01:04:35.000 But they can't realize that because then their whole cosmology is going to be.
01:04:38.000 It's a question of how does solar energy become electricity?
01:04:41.000 It is electricity already.
01:04:44.000 It's collecting it.
01:04:45.000 Right, right.
01:04:47.000 So the electricity hits it.
01:04:49.000 Half their story is right.
01:04:49.000 It does hit the silicon.
01:04:51.000 And it knocks the boron out.
01:04:52.000 But it's not because of a photon hit it.
01:04:54.000 It's because electricity was transmitted to it.
01:04:56.000 The electricity is coming from the sky.
01:04:58.000 I challenge anybody get your drone, get a spool of really thin wire, take it off, and when it's hanging in the air, grab it.
01:05:04.000 I did it.
01:05:05.000 I got electrocuted.
01:05:06.000 The wire broke.
01:05:07.000 I threw it all in the garbage, and I'll never do it again.
01:05:09.000 How high up was it?
01:05:10.000 It was, I don't know, 400 feet maybe.
01:05:12.000 So get up to 400 feet with a wire hanging down and then grab the wire?
01:05:14.000 Yeah, I don't recommend.
01:05:16.000 By the way, if anyone does that, I'm not taking any responsibility.
01:05:19.000 So this is going to try this out hard.
01:05:20.000 They explain it with what's called the photoelectric effect.
01:05:23.000 This is how they say solar panels work.
01:05:24.000 And what's happening is photons are a pressure.
01:05:28.000 They carry pressure.
01:05:29.000 They're not mass.
01:05:30.000 They can hit things and make them change.
01:05:31.000 So, like if a photon hits an atom, the electrons in the atom will bulge away from the core.
01:05:36.000 And that's what they call the levels of the electrons are going up.
01:05:39.000 And then they start to act different.
01:05:40.000 They can interact with other things because they've been hit by a photon.
01:05:43.000 They've been activated.
01:05:44.000 So the photons are hitting these panels and activating the electrons in the panel.
01:05:48.000 And then the electrons are starting to move back and forth.
01:05:50.000 And you have to believe it because wearing a copper Faraday jacket.
01:05:53.000 Yeah, but what is that like?
01:05:54.000 Is that a Faraday jacket?
01:05:55.000 Yes.
01:05:56.000 But real quick, how does a plant.
01:05:58.000 Put your phone in the pocket.
01:05:59.000 Yes.
01:06:00.000 But real quick, Ian, how does a simple plant turn the sunlight into energy, into food?
01:06:04.000 I mean, do you think that's a.
01:06:05.000 I haven't studied what's that called?
01:06:07.000 Photosynthesis.
01:06:08.000 Photosynthesis, but probably a photon is hitting the plant's matter.
01:06:11.000 And when the matter's getting bombarded by photons, its electrons are going up levels.
01:06:15.000 And then they're starting to do different chemical reactions.
01:06:17.000 It's magic.
01:06:18.000 Well, it's only magic for the planet.
01:06:20.000 I think there is a supernatural aspect to our universe.
01:06:22.000 I mean, I think we'd all agree.
01:06:23.000 You can believe anything you want, but I'd rather not believe.
01:06:25.000 I'd rather know.
01:06:26.000 And if I don't know something.
01:06:28.000 Instead of believing it, I say I don't know.
01:06:30.000 You got to go to the subatomics.
01:06:31.000 This is what's so fascinating.
01:06:32.000 There's bosons and fermions.
01:06:34.000 There's charge carriers, which are like bosons, which are like four quarters.
01:06:38.000 You're talking about something we cannot even see with a microscope.
01:06:41.000 It's basically spinning force that's the stuff we cannot see with a microscope.
01:06:44.000 Well, then there's like electrons, which are matter carriers.
01:06:47.000 I agree that it exists.
01:06:48.000 Forks, electrons, they carry neutrinos, they carry matter.
01:06:52.000 They're like actual things.
01:06:54.000 But then there's all the other stuff, it's like pressure.
01:06:56.000 And that's just pushing off.
01:06:57.000 Oh, I got an idea.
01:06:58.000 What?
01:06:59.000 Who's like, do you guys know who like the most hardcore greater earth theorist is?
01:07:03.000 Great.
01:07:03.000 Sean Hibbler, maybe.
01:07:04.000 We got to get a greater Earth, hollow Earth, flat Earth debate going.
01:07:08.000 Well, I think there could be something to discuss.
01:07:09.000 Six hours.
01:07:10.000 I know Dave's not into hollow Earth very much, but.
01:07:12.000 Exactly.
01:07:13.000 Imagine a hollow Earth guy being like, no, you don't know.
01:07:15.000 You're completely wrong. 1.00
01:07:16.000 You're nuts. 1.00
01:07:16.000 Flat. 1.00
01:07:17.000 It's hollow.
01:07:18.000 Well, I think that the way that it's done. 0.96
01:07:19.000 We're all crazy.
01:07:20.000 We live in a gigantic.
01:07:21.000 This is a Garthos.
01:07:21.000 This is beyond the ocean.
01:07:22.000 But real quick, let me just say this one thing.
01:07:24.000 The deepest we can go is Mariana's Trench in the ocean that is less than eight miles deep. 0.68
01:07:27.000 And then the deepest that we've ever dug on Earth is eight miles deep through the Russian borehole.
01:07:33.000 No, no, no, no.
01:07:34.000 Alex, if you dig.
01:07:36.000 About 12,742,000, you'd be in China.
01:07:40.000 Yeah, and that's not possible.
01:07:42.000 I got to talk about Hollow Earth because I think it might be real.
01:07:44.000 Because I think if this planet Thea hypothesis is real, I don't know if you guys have heard of it, but like they say, three billion years ago when the Earth was forming, there was another planetoid in orbit that smashed into Earth, blew out the other side of it, turned it into a molten ball of fusive plasma or whatever the fuck it was.
01:07:57.000 And then the other thing slowly cooled down into what now we have as our moon, which is why it has a lot of Earth's material in it.
01:08:03.000 But at that phase where Earth was just molten, ripped open, it reformed and cooled down with all these hollow caverns within it.
01:08:11.000 How deep it could go throughout the entire planet.
01:08:13.000 That proves it.
01:08:14.000 It's a wild theory, but there are weird things where they see, like in mountains, it's a cool theory.
01:08:19.000 Yeah, but I'm saying realistic.
01:08:21.000 There is like something hidden underground.
01:08:23.000 You know, they say there's underground cities here in America that, you know, we know lots of space.
01:08:27.000 The deepest hole ever dug.
01:08:27.000 We know about the oceans.
01:08:29.000 Sorry.
01:08:29.000 Well, that's what they tell us.
01:08:29.000 Yeah.
01:08:30.000 They say that we know more about space than the oceans.
01:08:33.000 You're actually right about this Marianas Trench only being like eight miles deep.
01:08:36.000 I was exactly right about that.
01:08:37.000 So the deepest hole ever dug is about eight miles.
01:08:39.000 When they were drilling, they were using ground penetrating radar to see what they were going to hit next.
01:08:43.000 They're like, okay, no more rocks.
01:08:44.000 They hit rocks.
01:08:44.000 Okay, no more water.
01:08:45.000 They hit water.
01:08:46.000 They were wrong every step of the way.
01:08:48.000 So, if the earth was an apple, they drilled like a quarter of the way through the skin of the apple.
01:08:53.000 They were wrong every step of the way, but somehow they know the next 4,000 miles to the core.
01:08:57.000 Do you know the story about how when the U.S. and Russia teamed up to drill the core borehole?
01:09:02.000 And is that what you're talking about?
01:09:03.000 Yeah.
01:09:04.000 And that they heard wailing.
01:09:05.000 Did you ever hear it?
01:09:06.000 Yeah.
01:09:06.000 Let me pull it up.
01:09:07.000 No, don't pull it up.
01:09:08.000 I don't want to hear it.
01:09:09.000 I don't want to hear it.
01:09:10.000 It sounds like hell. 0.98
01:09:11.000 There's all the demons in freaking hell. 0.98
01:09:14.000 It's crazy.
01:09:14.000 If there are souls that make it to heaven, which I think is in the sun, and then there's souls that fall to hell, which is in the earth's core, bro.
01:09:19.000 You're probably listening to the screams of the men in the room.
01:09:22.000 I've got to pull it more aligned.
01:09:23.000 I think, like, the heavens are closer to the moon and the sun.
01:09:26.000 Like, there is some sort of.
01:09:27.000 And the only way to heaven is through the sun.
01:09:30.000 I think so.
01:09:30.000 I think that's why they say through the sun.
01:09:32.000 They're like, I see a light.
01:09:33.000 I see a light.
01:09:33.000 They're like moving towards the central node.
01:09:35.000 And then that'll send them to the galactic core if they make it to the next.
01:09:38.000 You know why the sun looks like it's right there above the clouds?
01:09:41.000 Because it's right there above the clouds.
01:09:43.000 I need some proof.
01:09:43.000 Hmm.
01:09:44.000 They're saying the sound is a hoax.
01:09:44.000 I need some evidence.
01:09:46.000 Okay.
01:09:47.000 Of course they say that.
01:09:48.000 Yeah, of course they say that.
01:09:49.000 That's what they say.
01:09:50.000 Everything's a hoax.
01:09:51.000 Yeah, 9 11.
01:09:51.000 I don't know.
01:09:52.000 When I hear things, that one.
01:09:54.000 That one freaked me out.
01:09:55.000 I don't know if you guys ever did this, but I remember that one, something under the Euphrates River, the waters receding, which is prophetic.
01:10:03.000 And then they say that with the waters receding, they started wandering down to places that was not accessible with recorders.
01:10:10.000 And the sounds that they had coming up sounded like chains, moans, groans coming out from underneath your feet.
01:10:16.000 And I think it goes back to like the we look at the pyramids, those were definitely like energy balls. 1.00
01:10:21.000 I don't know what they were, power plants, but the idea that they were just created by like idiots that's the biggest lie. 1.00
01:10:26.000 Forget about flat earth or whatever, that our ancestors were dumber than us. 1.00
01:10:29.000 They were smarter than us. 1.00
01:10:30.000 And that's like one thing they'll tell us oh, they were so dumb they didn't know what air conditioning was. 0.98
01:10:34.000 Yet they built like aqueducts in Greece that kept them cool without any modern technology. 0.97
01:10:39.000 So they're smarter than us, but I think that's a big lie.
01:10:42.000 We want to think that we're at the tip of technology, tip of civilization.
01:10:47.000 We're literally in the closing credits of idiocracy.
01:10:50.000 I think it's the quartz crystal king chamber, that quartz in Mexico.
01:10:54.000 It's in Mexico, right?
01:10:55.000 It's in the Great Pyramid in Egypt.
01:10:57.000 They found at least one king chamber that we know about.
01:10:59.000 You can harvest in it.
01:11:00.000 I think it vibrates causing piezoelectric force because it's connected to the waterway underneath.
01:11:04.000 Whatever, but it's causing other king's chambers to vibrate nearby, which will cause like halogen lights to turn on.
01:11:09.000 Yeah, there's why you don't see smoke and like burn marks in the pyramids.
01:11:12.000 Yeah, there's crazy, crazy stuff.
01:11:13.000 And that's why there's part of the pyramids we can't even go to.
01:11:16.000 And in the Egyptian, some old world tech buildings where you can still see the electricity coming off the spires on these old buildings.
01:11:22.000 So, my question about the pits to hell you were talking about, Tony, is like, I did one time I was really stoned at my house and my sink was really like bacteria ridden, I hadn't cleaned it in months.
01:11:32.000 Okay, that's water was dripping into my sink, and it started playing music like notes, dude.
01:11:37.000 I remember you telling me about this.
01:11:39.000 I have a video of it on Facebook somewhere, and it literally blip, That's my favorite song. 1.00
01:11:45.000 Yeah, that's like how black people would have changed the battery in their smoke detector. 1.00
01:11:48.000 It was bacteria singing to me, or something. 1.00
01:11:50.000 It sounded like a living organism was affecting the water as it dripped past, causing it to drip in a certain pattern, and it was producing a certain sound like it was singing to me, or something.
01:11:59.000 It sounded like, and I wonder if these like these wind tunnels coming from the pits of hell that you're talking about, the moans and stuff, is literally like earth communicating with us.
01:12:07.000 Or it's just pure wind being bent through tunnels.
01:12:11.000 Yeah, I mean, I think you could look at it, try looking at it in a natural sense for sure.
01:12:14.000 And what kind of sounds does the earth make?
01:12:16.000 You know, barring flat earth and global and all that stuff, I mean, if the earth is moving at all, what kind of sounds does that make?
01:12:22.000 And what kind of sounds will that translate to audio recording?
01:12:25.000 But when you come, for me, I come from a very, many would say, extreme supernatural worldview.
01:12:31.000 I believe that there is a hell.
01:12:33.000 I believe that, you know, scripture talks about angels being chained underneath the Euphrates River.
01:12:37.000 And then you have these recordings, unless they're fake, and they very well could be fake.
01:12:41.000 Recordings and that just throws everything out the water.
01:12:44.000 I got one for you.
01:12:45.000 How come when I offered to fly Alex Stein down to Antarctica, he refused to do it?
01:12:48.000 Because tell him, Dave, I was scared to land on the ice.
01:12:50.000 I don't want to land in it.
01:12:52.000 Oh, convenient.
01:12:53.000 Dave got invited too.
01:12:53.000 Dave didn't go.
01:12:55.000 The whole trip was designed for me to go.
01:12:57.000 It was designed to take me down.
01:12:59.000 Whatever happened there, I don't know.
01:13:02.000 I offered to pay for Alex.
01:13:03.000 He wants to go to Antarctica.
01:13:04.000 Yeah, I got it.
01:13:05.000 Let's be honest, Dave, they did see the 24 hour sun.
01:13:05.000 And it wasn't an approval.
01:13:08.000 They saw something.
01:13:08.000 That's what they claim.
01:13:10.000 And there are models.
01:13:12.000 We have models that show how there could be a 24 hour sun there.
01:13:15.000 Now, listen.
01:13:15.000 You can say that model is a little, okay, that's a little out there.
01:13:18.000 But if you look at the heliocentric model, the globe model of a hydrogen and helium ball existing in a space vacuum, remaining in a perfect orbit, ignoring the three body problem, violating every natural law that there is, that's a crazy theory.
01:13:32.000 I think so.
01:13:33.000 If you want to use the light in the sky moving to prove the shape of the Earth, first you have to prove that the Earth is curved, you have to prove that the Earth is spinning, and you have to prove that helium and hydrogen are going to be in a space vacuum.
01:13:44.000 When he claims to believe something, but he won't go.
01:13:47.000 No, that doesn't prove it.
01:13:48.000 I gave you the test.
01:13:50.000 Why would Alex go there?
01:13:51.000 Because it wouldn't prove anything.
01:13:52.000 And who wants to go there?
01:13:56.000 It doesn't prove anything.
01:13:57.000 I used to say it proves something, but I was wrong.
01:13:59.000 You're so mad at me about that.
01:14:00.000 I should have gone.
01:14:01.000 But listen, there are some weird things.
01:14:04.000 There are some anomalies on both sides of it. 1.00
01:14:06.000 And I know there's people who watch this like, oh, flat Earth is so retarded. 0.99
01:14:08.000 But there's just so many examples where we can see too far that, you know, if we're applying the Earth's curve, which is eight inches per mile squared, it doesn't conscribe to that model. 0.99
01:14:18.000 So that's where people like Dave, And you know, every test for Earth movement has failed and proven the opposite.
01:14:23.000 I'm just saying there is some truth to it.
01:14:25.000 Maybe, maybe Dave and I are totally wrong, but at the exact same time, we know that NASA is not 100% right.
01:14:30.000 Like, there's somewhere we know NASA's lying.
01:14:32.000 There's so much evidence.
01:14:33.000 If you look at Artemis on my website, flat earthdave.com, there's a video called How Did They Fit in There About the Artemis.
01:14:42.000 Five minute video, NASA's finished.
01:14:44.000 All you have to watch.
01:14:45.000 And we even brought it to the question to the head of NASA, and his answer.
01:14:51.000 Prove that they're lying about everything.
01:14:52.000 What about Mark Kelly?
01:14:53.000 He's about to be president of the United States, they say.
01:14:55.000 I don't even know who that is.
01:14:57.000 The congressman from Arizona, the fake astronaut.
01:15:00.000 You know who he is?
01:15:01.000 Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:15:02.000 He's a twin brother.
01:15:02.000 Get the hell out of here.
01:15:03.000 No, they're saying.
01:15:04.000 I'm going to Mexico.
01:15:04.000 I am out.
01:15:05.000 It's over.
01:15:06.000 He's going to be a nominee for the presidential election, or he's going to be in the primary. 1.00
01:15:09.000 That proves that the entire thing is fake and gay. 1.00
01:15:13.000 Maybe Mexico might be where they build the space elevator. 1.00
01:15:15.000 Have you studied that thing?
01:15:16.000 That makes no sense.
01:15:16.000 Yeah, the space elevator.
01:15:17.000 I don't understand.
01:15:18.000 Space elevator, you're spinning on a ball and it's so long that it has centrifugal force.
01:15:18.000 Hold on.
01:15:23.000 Or centripetal force that will hold itself up.
01:15:25.000 But this doesn't make sense.
01:15:26.000 Gravity would pull the cable down.
01:15:27.000 No.
01:15:28.000 The cable will wait.
01:15:29.000 So if I had a rock on a string, how fast, like a foot long, I'd have to spin around pretty fast for that rock to go out here.
01:15:36.000 I understand that, but that's not the way they explain gravity and orbit.
01:15:39.000 That makes no sense.
01:15:41.000 If the space elevator would have to be in geostationary orbit, this means that the weight of the cable will be pulling down in the station and it will need upward thrust permanently.
01:15:49.000 Whatever is up there has to have more mass and it has to be at a place where it's pulling, it's pulling.
01:15:55.000 Being pulled, so it pulls the whole thing up.
01:15:56.000 But that's all possible.
01:15:57.000 Here's the thing gravity works the end.
01:15:59.000 We're on the same team. 1.00
01:16:00.000 It's faking gay, it's unprovable, it's not anything. 1.00
01:16:03.000 Can you explain this to me? 0.85
01:16:04.000 It's a story that's a cool story.
01:16:05.000 Geostationary orbital structure carries the weight of a multi trillion ton cable.
01:16:11.000 I think you're buoyant in tons.
01:16:13.000 Well, I'm just saying an exorbitantly large, like a cable.
01:16:15.000 I think that's a big number.
01:16:16.000 A cable that can sustain an elevator has to be particularly thick.
01:16:20.000 Yeah.
01:16:21.000 And it is going from the ground up to space without falling.
01:16:25.000 It's a mine.
01:16:26.000 The rockets can't even carry that weight.
01:16:29.000 Rockets don't even carry the weight they claim to carry.
01:16:31.000 They're filled with helium.
01:16:32.000 Check out my balloon rocket section.
01:16:34.000 That's what I'm talking about.
01:16:35.000 Well, but outside of the flat earth argument, if we operate under the same math of a rocket ship that That Elon uses. 0.69
01:16:41.000 It does not, they have to use multi stages to get a rocket into orbit because the.
01:16:47.000 I understand that, but please, I'm trying to ask you the question.
01:16:50.000 How could a modern rocket, based on their explanation, carry a cable that could float without gravity pulling the whole thing down?
01:16:57.000 It'd have to, I don't know.
01:16:58.000 That's a good question.
01:16:59.000 How would they build it, is your question.
01:17:00.000 No, no, I'm saying, based on what they tell us in mainstream science about how rockets work, please don't say anything.
01:17:08.000 A rocket struggles against its own weight to carry its own solid fuel to get into orbit.
01:17:13.000 How would it be able to maintain a space elevator cable that could carry something without falling down itself?
01:17:21.000 Gravity does not work like a ball and a string you swing around.
01:17:24.000 You have to build a rigid structure.
01:17:25.000 Gravity works by consistently pulling it down to Earth.
01:17:27.000 I've never built a rigid structure.
01:17:28.000 That's not possible either.
01:17:30.000 I agree.
01:17:31.000 I agree.
01:17:31.000 You could use a magnetic waveguide instead of an actual physical piece of matter as the tether.
01:17:36.000 You could have very thin, feathery tethers, like hair sized graphene tethers that are like trillions of them that aren't necessarily heavy.
01:17:43.000 How will that carry a human cargo laden structure?
01:17:47.000 Listen, buoyancy.
01:17:48.000 I think you'll use buoyancy to get the elevator up most of the way, like a balloon, and then you'll fire on like ion thrusters.
01:17:54.000 The cable itself will weigh more than the Burj Khalifa.
01:17:59.000 I don't need to say anything.
01:17:59.000 You're fighting my argument for me.
01:18:01.000 I think if it's an aerogel graphene tether, it will still be heavy.
01:18:04.000 It certainly will be heavy.
01:18:05.000 And that's the biggest drawback.
01:18:06.000 They haven't been able to find the tether materials, but lately they found a breakthrough, I think, a month ago with what they think might be the right tether material.
01:18:14.000 It's a potential.
01:18:15.000 I mean, rocketry is expensive.
01:18:17.000 Yeah, but I mean, it seems like it'd be better to just put it on a balloon.
01:18:20.000 And if they did do something like that, the balloon only gets it up so far, and then the atmosphere.
01:18:24.000 That's what they say, but a big enough balloon.
01:18:25.000 Have you ever tied a piece of yarn to a balloon?
01:18:30.000 A piece of yarn.
01:18:30.000 Stuff like that.
01:18:30.000 A what?
01:18:31.000 Yarn?
01:18:31.000 Get a balloon, right?
01:18:32.000 Let the balloon go.
01:18:32.000 Yeah.
01:18:33.000 What happens?
01:18:34.000 It's gone.
01:18:34.000 It shoots straight up.
01:18:35.000 Eventually, you can't even see it anymore.
01:18:36.000 Tie a piece of yarn to it and let it go.
01:18:38.000 And what happens?
01:18:40.000 It will reach the point at which the yarn lifted from the ground begins to weigh too much for the buoyancy, and the balloon will stop where it is.
01:18:46.000 You mean a whole spool of yarn?
01:18:48.000 Yes.
01:18:48.000 Really good stuff to a certain height.
01:18:49.000 Yeah, sure.
01:18:50.000 Because the weight of the yarn is increasing.
01:18:53.000 So, how would you get a space elevator cable into orbit?
01:18:57.000 Let's take a quick vote.
01:18:58.000 It's impossible.
01:18:59.000 1,000 tons.
01:19:00.000 Impossible.
01:19:01.000 Why are we talking about it?
01:19:02.000 But this is the question.
01:19:03.000 Based on the modern estimates, it would be 1,500 tons.
01:19:07.000 So, you could do that.
01:19:08.000 I'm sorry.
01:19:09.000 The commercial concept, Obayashi, to carry payloads would be 7,000 tons.
01:19:14.000 How would 7,000 tons float?
01:19:16.000 What would hang?
01:19:18.000 It wouldn't float.
01:19:18.000 But you could add weight to it from the.
01:19:21.000 Platform in space.
01:19:23.000 Okay, now let's pause.
01:19:24.000 The way orbit works, there's orbital decay.
01:19:28.000 You have to continually apply outward thrust to counteract the gravity pulling it down to Earth.
01:19:33.000 The Lagrange point.
01:19:33.000 So it'd be up to a platform geocentric, and then there'd be another tether that goes further out to what's called the Lagrange point, where you have another large, massive body that holds everything.
01:19:43.000 This would mean the entire weight, 7,000 tons, is additionally pulling the whole thing down to Earth.
01:19:50.000 Yeah, it's being counterbalanced by the.
01:19:52.000 The giant massive object at the end.
01:19:53.000 And what's keeping that in space plus the 7,000 ton sun?
01:19:57.000 The sun is pulling on the Lagrange point.
01:19:59.000 You know what the Lagrange point is?
01:20:00.000 You know what the Lagrange point is?
01:20:01.000 Between the sun and the Earth.
01:20:02.000 Let me explain it to you.
01:20:03.000 There's a point where the Earth's gravity and the sun's gravity are neutral, and you can park something there.
01:20:08.000 Right.
01:20:09.000 Cool story, bro.
01:20:10.000 But that's so ridiculously far away.
01:20:11.000 That's beyond the moon. 1.00
01:20:12.000 It's so dumb. 0.99
01:20:13.000 And the Earth is vortexing. 0.99
01:20:14.000 It's never the same distance.
01:20:15.000 It's like dropping an anchor in the ocean.
01:20:17.000 Like, it's far away, but we still don't figure out how to do it.
01:20:19.000 It'll look great.
01:20:20.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:20:21.000 It's a ridiculous concept. 0.93
01:20:23.000 I don't know. 0.97
01:20:23.000 I don't think so. 0.97
01:20:25.000 I have no problem saying space elevator is a stupid idea. 1.00
01:20:27.000 All right. 0.99
01:20:28.000 It doesn't prove flat Earth or argue flat Earth.
01:20:30.000 It's just space elevator.
01:20:31.000 Yeah, space elevator.
01:20:31.000 I would not be funding the space elevator.
01:20:33.000 I think it's a great idea.
01:20:34.000 I just don't think it's like.
01:20:35.000 Mechanically sound to start building tomorrow.
01:20:37.000 If the space elevator was viable, Elon would be building that instead.
01:20:39.000 No, you got to build on the moon first.
01:20:41.000 Well, to that, I've already done the math.
01:20:43.000 The reason why we know the moon landing was fake because they would have already marketed it and put a Nike sign or Coca Cola sign on it.
01:20:49.000 That's just a fact because we can see it from everywhere else. 1.00
01:20:51.000 If they really could go there, they would make astronauts or whatever, Chinese slaves. 1.00
01:20:55.000 If they had a camera on the moon filming the earth spinning, showing the eclipses and everything, I'd tune into that thing 24 7. 1.00
01:21:01.000 Yeah, it'd be like the number one channel on TV.
01:21:02.000 Apparently, they want to make super laminate graphene space tethers for these elevators.
01:21:07.000 There's going to be more than one of them, by the way.
01:21:08.000 There's going to be zero of them.
01:21:10.000 There's going to be a lot of elevation.
01:21:11.000 Zero.
01:21:11.000 Zero.
01:21:13.000 We're definitely, we've got to build it on the moon first. 1.00
01:21:15.000 The only people that are allowed to go on it is Katy Perry.
01:21:17.000 Why do you think, you think that space is real?
01:21:19.000 No.
01:21:20.000 You think that just it's like all projection?
01:21:22.000 I think that we have a firmament and the stars are in the firmament.
01:21:26.000 I think that we're seeing things inside the firmament, like the sun and the moon are in an apparent position.
01:21:31.000 Get one of those glass half domes and then hold the light above it and look in the dome.
01:21:35.000 You will see a little sun floating in there from the light that you're holding above it.
01:21:40.000 So, maybe the real sun is in the actual firmament, above the firmament, from our point of view, and then you can see it being projected.
01:21:47.000 But Ian, real quick, it's possible that all we're seeing is a projection of something else.
01:21:52.000 Is the projector screen.
01:21:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:21:53.000 But that doesn't mean there's nothing beyond.
01:21:55.000 There is something beyond.
01:21:55.000 No, there could be.
01:21:56.000 There could be.
01:21:57.000 That's where the real source is.
01:21:59.000 It makes a lot of sense.
01:21:59.000 Yeah, it does.
01:22:00.000 I have lots of videos on it.
01:22:01.000 You got to check it out.
01:22:02.000 Oh, that's super cool.
01:22:03.000 I never thought about the atmosphere as a projector screen. 0.99
01:22:07.000 Going back to what I said earlier, like we think our ancestors were dumber than us.
01:22:10.000 Without a telescope, they're able to map the sun, moon, and stars. 0.65
01:22:14.000 Before us, so the idea that there are trillions of miles away, it just kind of seems laughable when they're able to make you know constellation patterns when they didn't even have modern technology.
01:22:23.000 So, I would argue that I think that kind of proves that they're closer than they say, not trillions of miles away.
01:22:28.000 How were they able to do it back then with no modern telescope?
01:22:31.000 They able to figure out Saturn, I think they're making a lot of mistakes with distance in space because they use what's called redshift to explain that things are speeding up and getting you know, they figured out that the how the moon or excuse me, the sun is 93 million miles away through the uh.
01:22:44.000 Transgression of Venus.
01:22:45.000 They said, Oh, transit of Venus.
01:22:46.000 Yeah, the transit of Venus is 44,000 miles away.
01:22:49.000 So they think the sun's double as far away as that.
01:22:51.000 So it's a little bit.
01:22:52.000 The way they did it is they had two people watch the transit of Venus, one on the east coast, one on the west coast.
01:22:52.000 Hold on.
01:22:57.000 And it started at two different times.
01:22:59.000 And since Venus is about the same size as Earth, they figured out the distances and the distance of the sun.
01:23:06.000 Here's the problem with that equation who told them Venus was the same size as Earth?
01:23:11.000 Because that's a made up variable.
01:23:13.000 So if you had a million dollars in the bank and I doubled it tomorrow, And I doubled that the next day, you'd have $4 million, right?
01:23:19.000 You never had a million dollars in the bank.
01:23:21.000 So you don't have $4 million.
01:23:23.000 You have an equation that's nonsense based on false information, which might be true.
01:23:29.000 And then, in addition to that, the redshift, which is how they're like, it's 100 trillion miles away and it looks like it's getting further.
01:23:35.000 I think that a redshift is when the wavelength seems to be getting longer, which indicates that it's getting further away faster.
01:23:40.000 But what's really happening is you're seeing a wavelength, which is a very short wavelength like this, from a different angle because it's curving around.
01:23:46.000 The universe is curving around on itself in its torus.
01:23:49.000 And it's going to like a helix, like an infinity sign.
01:23:51.000 It's going to bust, crunch back through that center point, explode out again.
01:23:55.000 So it looks like it's expanding, but it's really turning.
01:23:58.000 But it's looking a lot closer than it seems.
01:24:00.000 Are you worried about the sun not rising in the morning?
01:24:02.000 No, I am.
01:24:04.000 Could you imagine what that would be like?
01:24:06.000 It would be hell on earth.
01:24:07.000 It would be done.
01:24:08.000 You don't worry about that?
01:24:09.000 No, of course.
01:24:10.000 That doesn't mean you think it's going to happen.
01:24:12.000 I'm also worried about zombie apocalypse.
01:24:13.000 Oh, that'd be crazy.
01:24:14.000 I think that God created the earth.
01:24:16.000 I think he created the machinations of it.
01:24:17.000 And we try to give a scientific reason to it.
01:24:20.000 We use whatever science nonsense you want to use.
01:24:23.000 But I think it's just obvious from our perspective the sun and the moon look the same size to us.
01:24:28.000 I know they change during the time of the year and the pattern and time of the day.
01:24:34.000 But my point is.
01:24:35.000 I think that the sun and the moon are like the yin and the yang.
01:24:38.000 I think that's pretty obvious.
01:24:39.000 Like, if you just looked at it, same reason why we get energy from the sun, we get a similar energy from the moon.
01:24:44.000 And I mean, it's just, we can prove that.
01:24:47.000 Did you see my interview with 102 year old Ruth?
01:24:50.000 So I was interviewing this woman about the World's Fair, 102 years old.
01:24:53.000 She's very, mind was very with it.
01:24:55.000 And I asked her at the end of the interview, I said, What did they teach you in school about the earth?
01:25:00.000 And she said, In public school in Hamden, Connecticut, she was taught in the late 1920s that the earth was flat.
01:25:09.000 In public schools.
01:25:11.000 So the whole thing, Eratosthenes figured it out 2,000 years ago, is nonsense.
01:25:14.000 Six and Shadows.
01:25:15.000 Yeah, Six and Shadows.
01:25:16.000 The guy that figured out the radius of the Earth, no one ever wrote a book about him until the 1950s.
01:25:21.000 He was never written up.
01:25:22.000 The guy that figured it out for 2,000 years, nobody freaking wrote.
01:25:26.000 When did this change and why did they change it?
01:25:28.000 Well, they changed it when the Rockefellers took over the education system, which was in 1902 or 1901, somewhere around there.
01:25:35.000 And they slowly changed it.
01:25:36.000 They were teaching flat Earth up until the early 1960s.
01:25:40.000 Right.
01:25:41.000 And then they switched it.
01:25:42.000 And then the moon landing, you know, like, you know, the moon landing, it's like, don't look at Antarctica.
01:25:46.000 We're going to the moon.
01:25:48.000 And don't look over there because after Project High Jump, where they discovered more land beyond the South Pole, bigger than America, that no one has ever seen, that's a problem for the globe.
01:25:58.000 Why don't you fly to Agartha?
01:25:59.000 No, but you should look up General Admiral Byrd.
01:26:01.000 Do I have an airship?
01:26:01.000 How?
01:26:03.000 You can get a plane.
01:26:04.000 How do I get more fuel out there?
01:26:05.000 But Dave, Dave.
01:26:06.000 You can fuel up in Chile and then you can fly to Agartha.
01:26:09.000 It's too far.
01:26:11.000 What do you do?
01:26:11.000 You can fly for 12 hours on a single plane.
01:26:13.000 Yeah, but how am I going to get back?
01:26:14.000 You don't.
01:26:15.000 Okay. 0.97
01:26:16.000 So, crazy flat earther who kills himself lost at sea.
01:26:19.000 Dave, talk about General Admiral Byrd, who talked about he was the first person, first general to explore Antarctica.
01:26:25.000 And he said in Antarctica, Tim, he said this, that there were tropical climates, that there were parts of Antarctica that had beaches.
01:26:31.000 And that's what he said.
01:26:32.000 Yeah, tropical, tropical growth and everything.
01:26:35.000 And he said there's more resources there than all of America has combined, including Alaska and everything.
01:26:40.000 So, I mean, it's probably why they shut down the flat earth.
01:26:43.000 Thing because it makes people think that there's more earth to that's part of the motivations.
01:26:47.000 Well, that's part of it.
01:26:48.000 It doesn't discount that the earth might also be a sphere, they just don't want people thinking about well, extra earth.
01:26:52.000 And that's kind of where I'm at.
01:26:53.000 I think there is probably something rounder universe, but the idea that it's just like the spinning ball holding water is just it's impossible.
01:26:58.000 What they described, yeah, I don't think it's impossible.
01:27:00.000 Well, how does a ball hold water?
01:27:02.000 Gravity, but a balloon, a simple balloon, can just yeah, why does dust so hold on?
01:27:08.000 Hold on a second, tennis ball.
01:27:09.000 Well, you talk about dust, we have Sahara dust in Texas that makes all the why do you think dust sticks to a tennis ball?
01:27:14.000 That's static, like it is.
01:27:16.000 No, gravity is not static.
01:27:17.000 A form of electrostatics.
01:27:18.000 Electrostatics.
01:27:19.000 Well, you're getting close there.
01:27:20.000 I'm very close.
01:27:21.000 But if water is attracted to gravity, that means that the ocean must curve.
01:27:27.000 Right?
01:27:27.000 Correct.
01:27:28.000 It doesn't curve.
01:27:29.000 It doesn't curve.
01:27:29.000 It does not curve.
01:27:31.000 If water is attracted to gravity, it would all be attracted to the center of the earth.
01:27:35.000 Yeah, it is curved.
01:27:36.000 No, it would be if the earth was a globe, but it's not.
01:27:38.000 We've measured.
01:27:39.000 We've measured.
01:27:40.000 You literally look across Michigan, where Tim's from in Chicago.
01:27:43.000 You can see the whole entire skyline of downtown Chicago.
01:27:46.000 We used to do that, actually.
01:27:47.000 We'd go to the dunes in Indiana.
01:27:48.000 And you could see Chicago on the other side.
01:27:50.000 Right.
01:27:51.000 And here's the problem, though.
01:27:52.000 The debunkers will say, well, I can't see the bottom of the building.
01:27:54.000 Well, you can't see the bottom of the building for several reasons because of the angle that you're seeing it, the marine layer, waves, all sorts of things.
01:28:01.000 But that doesn't matter.
01:28:02.000 The top of the tallest building should be hundreds of feet below the curve, and we can see the whole city.
01:28:07.000 Let's say you're in that room, and I'm in here, and I shine a light on the door crack.
01:28:11.000 Yeah.
01:28:12.000 But you can't see me, and I can't see you.
01:28:13.000 You can see where I'm hitting the door crack with my flashlight.
01:28:16.000 You can see the refraction of the light bending around the piece of matter.
01:28:19.000 So that's why you can see across the lake.
01:28:21.000 No.
01:28:22.000 No, it's the exact same phenomenon.
01:28:23.000 No, it's not.
01:28:24.000 You're shining a light on something that I can see.
01:28:26.000 There is nothing in between me and Chicago.
01:28:29.000 That's why I can see across the lake.
01:28:30.000 Did you guys ever see a pinhole projection on accident?
01:28:32.000 Yeah.
01:28:33.000 They're really crazy.
01:28:34.000 There's like a video where a guy goes in his garage and there's a projector screen of the outside on his floor.
01:28:42.000 And he's like, This is crazy.
01:28:43.000 It's because a hole was punched and it created a projection screen.
01:28:48.000 That's like that where they say the moon is a projection.
01:28:48.000 Yeah, pretty cool.
01:28:51.000 Like that.
01:28:52.000 There are people who believe the moon is a reflection of the earth.
01:28:54.000 That the atmosphere is actually a projector screen.
01:28:56.000 You poke one hole and then the hole, he can see the whole outside projected in his room from one hole.
01:29:01.000 What people don't understand is that the sky is actually.
01:29:04.000 It's a canopy with a thousand holes punched in it.
01:29:06.000 Yeah, I'm trying to be funny, but real quick, let's say something about the moon.
01:29:09.000 A lot of people don't realize this. 1.00
01:29:12.000 People think that women have their periods once a month. 1.00
01:29:14.000 They actually don't. 1.00
01:29:15.000 They have it at 13 times a year, and it's once every 28 days.
01:29:18.000 And that's arguably what the original calendar was 13 months of 28 days because that's the exact moon cycle.
01:29:24.000 So we've kind of adulterated the whole entire calendar.
01:29:28.000 But if we actually went by the moon calendar, we would have a perfect system where there would be 13 months, all 28 days, and everything would work easier.
01:29:35.000 But then 13 months, 28 days, plus one day to reset the year, that's 365.
01:29:39.000 What do you think of the idea that the moon is responsible for delivering and removing souls from Earth?
01:29:45.000 I've never heard that.
01:29:46.000 Yeah, to look into that, I find it very interesting.
01:29:49.000 And it's deep, it syncs up with women's cycles.
01:29:52.000 The moon is responsible for delivering souls, the transition of us coming from the heavens to have this physical experience here on Earth. 0.93
01:30:00.000 I have no proof.
01:30:01.000 It's a theory.
01:30:02.000 A lot of people talk about it.
01:30:03.000 Yeah, but Ian, do you believe that we have souls?
01:30:04.000 Yeah, but I don't think each of us have one.
01:30:06.000 I think that all of the spirits in nature will embody you and leave you at different times.
01:30:10.000 Right.
01:30:10.000 You have spirits in and out all the time, but you have a main soul.
01:30:13.000 I think you do.
01:30:14.000 And when you're sleeping and your main soul leaves and journeys, you can't wake up until it comes back.
01:30:18.000 And you can't remember what it knows.
01:30:18.000 That might be true.
01:30:20.000 Sometimes you can.
01:30:21.000 Sometimes you can if you get good at it.
01:30:23.000 You have to practice, but it's very difficult.
01:30:24.000 If memory is like a magnetic formation of neurons, then I would think that spirit, which is like a magnetic fluctuation of some sort, would be affecting memory.
01:30:32.000 And like these spirits might be able to like turn certain memories on in you.
01:30:35.000 But so that's about where I'm at with this.
01:30:37.000 Well, I think the importance is to remember that we're not a thumb, we're not a finger, we're not a thigh.
01:30:41.000 Like there is a soul inside of us.
01:30:43.000 And then when we die, you know, I think so, but I don't know about you, Alex.
01:30:46.000 Yeah, maybe not.
01:30:47.000 I'm soulless.
01:30:48.000 No.
01:30:49.000 But I will say this a lot of what we're talking about, guys, you know, Dave is not a scientist.
01:30:53.000 I'm not a scientist.
01:30:54.000 Ian's the farthest thing from it, even though he's a graphene king.
01:30:56.000 My point is this it's like, I think, Dave, I don't want to speak for you, but like the motivation that we have when I talk about these subjects is just look into it on your own.
01:31:03.000 Like during the pandemic, they said, don't do your own research.
01:31:06.000 I think Dave would just encourage people, just look into some of these videos.
01:31:08.000 Here's the thing.
01:31:08.000 If you look into it, Google, Chat, GPT, Clyde, all these things, Claude, are going to feed you what they want you to, Want you to see, you have to really take the time and do the research.
01:31:20.000 I've taken the time.
01:31:21.000 I've organized everything.
01:31:22.000 I've put it on my website.
01:31:23.000 I have the crash course.
01:31:24.000 I have the frequently asked questions.
01:31:25.000 I have my flat earth clock app, right?
01:31:27.000 You don't even have to get the app.
01:31:29.000 But if you want to support me, get the app, right?
01:31:32.000 But just check out the crash course.
01:31:34.000 I challenge here's my challenge.
01:31:38.000 I recommend that you get the app and then try to prove me wrong.
01:31:42.000 Come up with a glow proof.
01:31:43.000 I offer three bitcoins for one glow proof.
01:31:46.000 Three bitcoins for one glow proof.
01:31:48.000 But before you send it to me, You have to check the frequently asked questions page, right? 1.00
01:31:52.000 Because your stupid question or stupid proof is already debunked in there most of the time. 0.99
01:31:57.000 However, to make this legal, because some of the Globus are freaking out, you're offering a thing, but you have to buy your app. 1.00
01:32:02.000 You don't have to buy my app.
01:32:04.000 You can go to the crash course on my website, watch the first five videos.
01:32:08.000 Are you requesting specific proofs?
01:32:09.000 Yeah, a scientific proof that the Earth is a spinning ball in a space vacuum.
01:32:14.000 Are you saying there are three proofs to prove, or are you saying one proof?
01:32:17.000 No, one proof.
01:32:18.000 No, you said one proof, three bitcoins.
01:32:21.000 Three bitcoins.
01:32:21.000 For one proof.
01:32:23.000 And is the proof a specific claim you want proven, or are you saying?
01:32:25.000 No, I want a proof that we are a globe spinning in a space vacuum.
01:32:30.000 So, what would satisfy that?
01:32:32.000 A scientific proof.
01:32:34.000 Nothing will satisfy it because we're not.
01:32:35.000 Well, if we were to get a ball, because you will reject it.
01:32:37.000 Well, if we were to get a ball, because you will reject it.
01:32:39.000 If you can measure the curvature, or you can show the motion around the sun, you can prove that we're orbiting the sun, then that would be proof.
01:32:45.000 How do you prove that?
01:32:46.000 Tim, he will say this, and I think Dave gotten a little bit.
01:32:48.000 You can't prove it because it's not true.
01:32:50.000 Well, not much trouble, but people will say, oh, well, we can see the moon and we can see the stars.
01:32:55.000 They try to prove the shape of the earth by looking in the sky.
01:32:57.000 That doesn't necessarily prove the shape of the earth by looking up.
01:33:00.000 It doesn't.
01:33:01.000 I agree with Dave.
01:33:02.000 If I came to your house to put carpeting in, I measured the lights in your ceiling before I cut the carpet, would you kick me out?
01:33:09.000 One more time.
01:33:11.000 It's all right.
01:33:12.000 I was pulling up a thing on carpet.
01:33:13.000 I'm just saying, if I'm measuring the lights in your ceiling to figure out how to cut the carpet for your floor, I don't think that would be so smart.
01:33:19.000 You want to measure the floor?
01:33:22.000 Measure the floor.
01:33:23.000 You want to look up at the sky and speculate?
01:33:25.000 Feel free, but you can't science the sky.
01:33:29.000 Um, ah, man.
01:33:32.000 Well, say it.
01:33:33.000 I don't think there's any problem measuring the roof unless you're wasting time.
01:33:36.000 If you can do it super fast, I don't care what you measure while you're in there.
01:33:41.000 Hey, Tony, do you think I'm kind of interested in what you think about like what souls are and how that works?
01:33:46.000 Yeah, I think Jeremiah 1 5, I believe it's 1 5, says that God knew us before we were in our mother's womb.
01:33:54.000 So I think that God installed that into our bodies before we even were created.
01:34:00.000 He knew us.
01:34:00.000 We were in existence with him.
01:34:03.000 And he brought this into a body when we were born.
01:34:07.000 Well, real quick, I like that he brought up a Bible verse.
01:34:09.000 I want to bring up Joshua chapter 10, verse 12.
01:34:12.000 On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of Israel, Sun, stand still over Gibeon, and you, moon, over the valley of Ajalon.
01:34:23.000 So the sun stood still and the moon stopped till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the book of Jashar.
01:34:30.000 The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.
01:34:34.000 So I'm saying, According to biblical cosmology, the sun is moving and that God was able to stop the transit of the sun.
01:34:41.000 So, you know, if we go back to the Bible, I think it kind of proves more to what Dave is saying.
01:34:45.000 No, you wouldn't call that proof because that's just a book that some guy said a thing happened.
01:34:49.000 Well, I think there's a lot of truth in the Bible, but whatever, that can be, you know, up for a debate.
01:34:52.000 But I'm just saying the way that the Bible describes the earth is that the sun and moon are on a, you know, trajectory and that it could have potentially stopped.
01:35:01.000 If we're flying, you know, 1,100 miles spinning and then going 666 miles around the sun, none of that makes sense.
01:35:07.000 If you don't believe in the Bible, that's useless.
01:35:07.000 Ian, I'm with you.
01:35:09.000 But also, like, why are you moving right and left right now, Alex?
01:35:12.000 Stop moving.
01:35:13.000 You're moving left and right.
01:35:14.000 Oh, no, I'm the one that's moving, but it just looks like you're moving.
01:35:16.000 That's how the sun and the moon are.
01:35:18.000 Yeah, it's kinematic.
01:35:18.000 It's all about, they're all moving.
01:35:20.000 So if you can't tell whether it's the sun moving or the earth moving, well, then it doesn't prove either.
01:35:24.000 Why are we talking about it?
01:35:26.000 You got to get outside of both of them and look from a distance, which is what we do with satellites.
01:35:29.000 Well, there are no satellites.
01:35:30.000 You know, it's funny, the cosmic microwave background.
01:35:33.000 But, you know, I know you like science.
01:35:34.000 You can actually look up the cosmic microwave background.
01:35:36.000 They took a picture of the universe, allegedly.
01:35:38.000 This is what NASA tells us.
01:35:39.000 And in their own picture, Earth was the center of the universe.
01:35:43.000 Yeah.
01:35:44.000 And when Artemis looks back at the Earth, we have the full Earth, right?
01:35:48.000 And we don't see a single satellite.
01:35:49.000 There's supposedly tens of thousands of satellites up there.
01:35:51.000 We never see satellites from space.
01:35:53.000 Are you sure?
01:35:54.000 Yeah.
01:35:54.000 I have an app where I can view.
01:35:56.000 No, you can view a tracker.
01:35:57.000 I mean, you can, hold on.
01:36:00.000 You can view a simulation of where the satellites are, but you never see them from space.
01:36:07.000 It's like the Himawari.
01:36:10.000 Himawari, dude, that's literally the transit of a satellite, and they just look at the modern day weather patterns and just plan it over there.
01:36:19.000 It's just like a simulation.
01:36:20.000 It's not an actual.
01:36:21.000 So a lot of people use the Himawari, it takes a picture of the Earth every 15 minutes.
01:36:26.000 Right.
01:36:26.000 And you look at it and it's supposedly accurate with the cloud data.
01:36:30.000 Well, the Himawari, by the time the picture hits the internet, it's already 10 or 15 minutes old.
01:36:35.000 So, could you take a model of the earth, a model accurate of all of the clouds, and put them over the earth and create a fake earth?
01:36:45.000 And the answer is, of course, you can.
01:36:47.000 But we got access.
01:36:48.000 We found somebody leaked out access to NASA FTP server that didn't have a password on it.
01:36:53.000 And in it was tens of thousands of files of dated folders of Himawari pictures.
01:36:59.000 And in one of them, we found.
01:37:01.000 The blue marble fake ball, the weather data, and exactly how they built it.
01:37:07.000 We caught them red handed on how they faked these images.
01:37:11.000 Now, how do we get all that weather data?
01:37:13.000 You guys didn't know this, but there are 950 some odd balloons, weather balloons, that are released worldwide every day, every 12 hours at the exact same time, all spread out across the earth.
01:37:24.000 So they go up and they're doing air barometric pressure, wind speeds, everything.
01:37:29.000 It just collects all data.
01:37:30.000 It all goes to a central computer.
01:37:31.000 And that's how they figure out flight routes.
01:37:33.000 That's how they figure out weather patterns.
01:37:34.000 That's how they figure out everything.
01:37:36.000 So that's how they get all that data.
01:37:38.000 They wrap it around.
01:37:39.000 They say, We got a satellite in space taking pictures every 15 minutes.
01:37:41.000 What did you know the moon is hollow?
01:37:43.000 Because it rang like a bell.
01:37:45.000 Cool story, bro.
01:37:45.000 No, because there's a production studio in there and that's where the director watches.
01:37:50.000 Oh, that's the Truman Show.
01:37:51.000 That's where Ed Harris.
01:37:52.000 Hey, you know what?
01:37:53.000 That's more true than the moon being a rock in space.
01:37:56.000 But yeah, that's one thing where I will get hypy about.
01:37:59.000 The idea that the moon is just some dusty rock is not true.
01:38:02.000 I mean, the fact that they say that it's a mirror and that it reflects.
01:38:05.000 Reflects the sun's light.
01:38:06.000 It has its own light, and you can actually look up these tests if you guys don't believe me.
01:38:09.000 But if you're in the sunlight and you go stand in the shade, the temperature is going to be less when you're in the shade.
01:38:13.000 That's the opposite with moonlight.
01:38:15.000 When you're in the moonlight, it's actually warmer.
01:38:17.000 Excuse me, it's actually colder than when you're in the moon shade.
01:38:20.000 So it's just, it's.
01:38:22.000 Wait, it's colder where?
01:38:23.000 When you're in the moonlight, you're colder than if you went in the shade.
01:38:23.000 It's colder.
01:38:27.000 Now, there's a hundred ways to do that test incorrectly.
01:38:30.000 Some people would get cardboard and block the moonlight, but now you're insulating the ground.
01:38:35.000 So that's a false positive.
01:38:37.000 In their argument, Tim, is that.
01:38:38.000 You have to do it where there's a vertical wall and it's like a moonlight here.
01:38:42.000 And then there's a shade of cold light.
01:38:44.000 Yeah, the moonlight is cold.
01:38:46.000 Now, the globe debunkers, the flat earth debunkers came out and were just going, there's no such thing as cold light.
01:38:53.000 But then Cody's Action Lab, a flat, not a globe science guy, literally came out that week with the cold laser.
01:39:00.000 He showed that you have a laser that can freeze things.
01:39:03.000 What?
01:39:03.000 Yeah, cold laser.
01:39:04.000 Look it up.
01:39:05.000 So this is saying it's warmer because.
01:39:08.000 Out in the open, the heat escapes.
01:39:11.000 What's the guy's name?
01:39:12.000 It's called Cody's Action Lab.
01:39:14.000 You're saying the tree blocks the heat from the system.
01:39:17.000 Yeah, but people have done it.
01:39:20.000 Ken Wheeler did it where there was a brick wall and the moon's over here.
01:39:26.000 So there's moonlight hitting the cement here and there's moonlight not hitting the cement here.
01:39:31.000 Right?
01:39:31.000 So there's nothing insulating the ground.
01:39:34.000 Hey, everyone.
01:39:34.000 It's the same.
01:39:35.000 So you may have seen in a previous video.
01:39:36.000 So you can find cold lasers.
01:39:39.000 Right, he has fire that freezes.
01:39:41.000 That's what I was thinking about how electricity feels cold, yeah, or it can, you know.
01:39:47.000 If you flow helium through it, then you can actually cool the atoms down while the electrons stay hot.
01:39:54.000 That's cool, you can do that.
01:39:55.000 So you have hot electrons but cold atoms.
01:39:58.000 And so that makes it so you can actually touch the fire.
01:40:01.000 So you're able to actually touch the fire and it doesn't feel hot and it doesn't burn you at all.
01:40:06.000 But in that video, in the comments section, a lot of people were asking me what was the temperature of the fire if I measured it.
01:40:12.000 And all I could say is that it kind of felt cool to the touch because I was flowing helium through it.
01:40:17.000 And then it dawned on me I could actually make this fire any arbitrary temperature that I wanted, depending on my gas temperature.
01:40:25.000 So then I set out to do the impossible.
01:40:28.000 I wanted to make a fire that actually freezes things instead of burns things.
01:40:33.000 So let me show you my setup of how I'm going to achieve this.
01:40:36.000 So instead of regular room temperature helium, I'm going to be cooling down.
01:40:43.000 Get a drop of water on the end here.
01:40:47.000 That proves it.
01:40:47.000 Crazy, huh?
01:40:50.000 Well, I think it just debunks a lot of modern day science.
01:40:54.000 And it's frozen.
01:40:55.000 Yeah, they call it chemiluminescence, which is lights produced by a chemical reaction without significant heat.
01:41:02.000 But then there's also St. Elmo's fire.
01:41:03.000 It's an electrical phenomenon where bluish glow appears around pointed objects during storms because of ionized air.
01:41:09.000 Looks like flame, but it's not hot.
01:41:11.000 Then there's foam gel fire expressions.
01:41:13.000 I don't know what this guy's doing.
01:41:15.000 Then there's fiction.
01:41:16.000 Sorcery.
01:41:17.000 So, cold fire.
01:41:18.000 Again, these are all very, very interesting things, but.
01:41:22.000 Moon landing is fake.
01:41:23.000 We never with Artemis was fake.
01:41:25.000 Earth is flat.
01:41:26.000 Earth does not move.
01:41:28.000 And check it out.
01:41:30.000 Don't believe me.
01:41:30.000 It'll free your mind.
01:41:31.000 What difference does it make?
01:41:32.000 I still have to go to work on Monday.
01:41:34.000 That's what people say.
01:41:35.000 Yeah.
01:41:35.000 It changes everything once you understand where you don't live.
01:41:35.000 Right?
01:41:39.000 The problem is with the state of mind is like you got to give people something to live for.
01:41:43.000 And if they think there's nothing, like what's the point of even living for it?
01:41:46.000 No, see, it's the opposite.
01:41:47.000 It's the opposite.
01:41:48.000 Actually, no, but let me answer this because it's the opposite of that, actually, Anne.
01:41:52.000 So the whole reason why they lie about the origins of the earth and they tell us that.
01:41:55.000 Theory of evolution is they want to hide the existence of God.
01:41:58.000 They want to make you think that this is your only level in life and that when you die, it's just like before you're born, there's nothing.
01:42:04.000 But that's just the farthest thing from the truth.
01:42:07.000 We know that we have spiritual people way before us that obviously there's some sort of supernatural aspects of the earth.
01:42:11.000 So that is the motivation.
01:42:13.000 It's like creating science as a new religion. 0.94
01:42:15.000 That is a new Christianity. 1.00
01:42:16.000 That's a new Islam. 1.00
01:42:17.000 So that's why they're able to make this lie and that they can hide the existence of God. 1.00
01:42:20.000 We know, I think everybody in the room believes you can fly in an airplane, right?
01:42:24.000 Does it believe that the air, you can fly in the air?
01:42:26.000 Yes.
01:42:27.000 But I think airplanes are lying.
01:42:28.000 They say they have a swimming pool worth of fuel on the wings.
01:42:31.000 That's not.
01:42:32.000 So, okay, we all agree we can fly in the air.
01:42:34.000 How far up until that just disappears all of a sudden and there's nothing?
01:42:37.000 Like 45,000 feet.
01:42:38.000 How have you ever proved that?
01:42:40.000 Well, there's planes that have flown that high.
01:42:42.000 There's special planes.
01:42:45.000 I think the ceiling is lower than they're telling us, but we're looking into that with some pilots and stuff.
01:42:50.000 I don't think that.
01:42:52.000 I personally don't think that planes can go over 70,000 feet.
01:42:54.000 Well, what would happen?
01:42:55.000 They would just hit a wall called the thermometer.
01:42:58.000 The air gets too thin and too cold and there's no more lift.
01:43:01.000 Can a rocket slam into a firmament?
01:43:03.000 Yeah, possibly.
01:43:04.000 I don't think any of those Elon Musk rockets crashed into firmaments.
01:43:07.000 Many flat earthers show this one where it looked like it's scraping along the firmament and then it exploded and it was gone, right?
01:43:14.000 I think that was just a helium filled rocket and it exploded, whether it was done on purpose or to give us a ooh ah.
01:43:20.000 But if it was scraping the firmament, we wouldn't be able to see it with our naked eyes.
01:43:24.000 It'd be too far away.
01:43:25.000 Forget about the firmament argument, which is, I mean, I think it's fair.
01:43:25.000 Forget about that.
01:43:28.000 But when you watch a video, Tim, of the thing landing in reverse cowgirl just on his butt, a rocket ship, That's so fake. 0.99
01:43:35.000 Those videos are the fakest AI garbage I've ever seen. 0.99
01:43:38.000 And Elon's able to just make a rocket reverse on his butt onto a remote island, dude. 1.00
01:43:43.000 It's just nonsense. 0.91
01:43:44.000 Like you've watched his videos.
01:43:45.000 What do you think about it?
01:43:46.000 You think those are real?
01:43:48.000 I have never really considered the fact that they weren't real.
01:43:50.000 I've done.
01:43:51.000 Because, I mean, you're talking about.
01:43:53.000 They have no wings.
01:43:54.000 They're able to just, you know, they're coming down like this, and all of a sudden, they land on a raft, upright, bullseye, out 800 miles in the ocean, and it's a drone raft, so there's no people there.
01:44:05.000 And just before it lands, the camera goes dead.
01:44:08.000 It always is.
01:44:09.000 It goes black, and then it comes back on after it lands, right?
01:44:11.000 I don't know if you know anything about the ocean.
01:44:13.000 It's rarely calm out there.
01:44:15.000 I mean, a lot of people.
01:44:16.000 Even every single time they come down.
01:44:18.000 It's let me make this point.
01:44:19.000 There's people that have kayaked across like sailboats across the ocean, across the world, though, even with modern technology.
01:44:26.000 Like, but but those, though, the rocket always lands on this raft by itself, and the camera always goes.
01:44:32.000 But, guys, we know that they have serious, uh, you know, warfare technology happening in the Strait of Hormuz, right? 0.63
01:44:38.000 And Iran is supposedly trying to bomb American ships, they can only get it to a certain coordinates, they can't like bomb directly on it, even with the technology that they tell us they have today. 0.66
01:44:46.000 So, it's like there is a little more to it. 0.82
01:44:48.000 It's not that easy to just make a bomb or drone.
01:44:51.000 Go into the ocean randomly and just land us.
01:44:53.000 This is a problem.
01:44:54.000 There is a degree of, you know, what's the word I'm trying to think of?
01:44:59.000 Room for error?
01:45:00.000 Yes, there's a degree for a room for contingency. 0.88
01:45:02.000 A problem with the theory of no space is that if there is space and China or Russia is building weapons that they can shoot straight down at us and we're da da da, it's fake, it's fake, it's fake, we will lose and die.
01:45:14.000 They have those weapons, but they're on balloons.
01:45:16.000 But if you really just completely disarm the possibility that there's a weapon.
01:45:16.000 They're on balloons.
01:45:19.000 Same thing that a weather technology.
01:45:20.000 Why do they need to go to space? 0.65
01:45:21.000 Why don't they just go like 70,000 feet and shoot it that way?
01:45:24.000 Well, Because the further away it is, the harder it is to detect.
01:45:27.000 So if you give up and you're like, there's nothing out there, we don't have to worry about anything.
01:45:27.000 Okay.
01:45:30.000 We couldn't detect Chinese balloons until they got over Minneapolis, Minnesota.
01:45:30.000 What do you mean?
01:45:34.000 So I'm saying these things aren't as easy as you think to detect.
01:45:36.000 Right.
01:45:37.000 They tell us these are all stories and they're not attacking us.
01:45:39.000 This is the theater.
01:45:41.000 War is real, but it's the theater of war.
01:45:43.000 It's all planned, it's all organized.
01:45:46.000 What do you think Space Force is?
01:45:47.000 Space Force is cyberspace force.
01:45:49.000 That's it.
01:45:50.000 It's not real.
01:45:51.000 No one goes to space ever.
01:45:52.000 No one's ever on those rockets.
01:45:54.000 That's a dangerous thing.
01:45:56.000 Because if they do.
01:45:56.000 I know it is.
01:45:57.000 And there are enemies there, you're in a lot of trouble.
01:46:00.000 I got it.
01:46:01.000 That's being, you're afraid of that.
01:46:03.000 I understand the fear, but if it's not true, when you understand that these rockets cannot carry people, there's not people on them.
01:46:10.000 On my app, I have a section called Balloon Rockets.
01:46:12.000 Watch those videos, and then you'll see how fake the space shuttle was, how fake these rockets are.
01:46:18.000 Elon does this one rocket launch where the rocket goes up, up, up, and then it just like turns on its side and it's falling and falling and falling.
01:46:26.000 But we got a side view of the rocket.
01:46:28.000 Like, From the ground.
01:46:30.000 And then when it switches to the onboard camera, all of a sudden it's like way above the atmosphere.
01:46:34.000 It's like up in the atmosphere.
01:46:36.000 And then the side view, it's really low.
01:46:38.000 And then it just, the engines turn on, it magically turns upright.
01:46:43.000 It's coming down, two of the three engines turn off, and it lands perfectly. 0.99
01:46:48.000 It's the dumbest thing ever. 0.96
01:46:50.000 If you saw that in a B movie, you'd go up to the ticket booth and say, I want my money back. 0.98
01:46:54.000 I think there's a lot of fake propaganda, media propaganda, since the 60s about the fact that.
01:46:58.000 Not media.
01:46:59.000 We're talking direct from Elon Musk.
01:47:01.000 Well, yeah, Michael Collins, he's actually.
01:47:02.000 Fake training pictures and said there were actually a lot of fake propaganda to establish hey, we're the best at space.
01:47:09.000 We're the best.
01:47:09.000 This is all our fate.
01:47:10.000 They'll put out fake things.
01:47:11.000 They'll say this is real, but it's fake.
01:47:12.000 That doesn't mean that there's no space and there's never been space exploration.
01:47:16.000 I think you're misinterpreting what Dave is saying.
01:47:19.000 And then, you know, Dave and I aren't 100% agreed on this, but there is like a space, but it's a firmament.
01:47:24.000 It's like a space above the waters, above the earth.
01:47:27.000 Like there is obviously an expanse of the universe, but it's not like what you think just stars trillions of miles away.
01:47:33.000 Everything is much closer.
01:47:34.000 Explain the firmament.
01:47:35.000 What is it?
01:47:35.000 In, like, one sense or two senses.
01:47:38.000 It would be like a.
01:47:40.000 People were here between the upper oceans and the lower.
01:47:44.000 The Bible describes it as a crystal like substance.
01:47:47.000 It could be frozen oxygen.
01:47:49.000 I don't know what it is.
01:47:50.000 It could be an impenetrable, frozen structure.
01:47:54.000 It could be.
01:47:55.000 Ask the chickens in our chicken coop what their coop is made of.
01:47:55.000 What?
01:47:59.000 We're not chickens in a chicken coop.
01:48:01.000 We are chickens in a chicken coop. 0.97
01:48:03.000 We're rats in a.
01:48:04.000 We're on the planet. 0.84
01:48:05.000 We're alive.
01:48:06.000 If you go to a lesser form of life that is enclosed in a space and ask it to describe the material that keeps it enclosed, it'll say buckle.
01:48:12.000 Bok, bok, bok.
01:48:12.000 Yeah, but we're the alpha predator.
01:48:14.000 We're at least able to shoot bombs.
01:48:16.000 We are nowhere near the alpha predator.
01:48:17.000 You know about Project Fishbowl?
01:48:18.000 What?
01:48:19.000 Project Fishbowl?
01:48:20.000 In the 1950s, they shot large bombs up to the sky to figure out what the firmament was made of and to find out how reflective it was.
01:48:27.000 And there's videos of these bombs exploding and hitting something and spreading out.
01:48:31.000 Oh, Dave.
01:48:32.000 Look it up.
01:48:33.000 Project.
01:48:34.000 Is it Fishbowl?
01:48:35.000 Is that the right one?
01:48:36.000 But, Dave, this will trigger Tim.
01:48:37.000 And Project Dominic.
01:48:38.000 Operation Fishbowl.
01:48:39.000 Operation Fishbowl.
01:48:40.000 High altitude nuclear weapons test.
01:48:42.000 No, they said nuclear weapons.
01:48:43.000 I just think it was big bombs.
01:48:45.000 This will trigger Tim. 0.94
01:48:46.000 We're nuking this guy. 0.63
01:48:47.000 I hope it does. 0.98
01:48:48.000 You know, what they tell us about these nuclear bombs is nonsense.
01:48:52.000 Of course, they have huge bombs, but the idea that Einstein was able to secretly split the atom during the Manhattan Project and that's what bombed Pearl Harbor, or excuse me, Nagasaki and Hiroshima, it's just fake, dude.
01:49:04.000 What they tell us about nuclear weapons is.
01:49:06.000 I don't think so.
01:49:07.000 You can split apart, you can turn neutrons into protons.
01:49:09.000 Have you done it?
01:49:11.000 I've never done it personally.
01:49:12.000 Yeah, neither have I. What a neutron can turn into a proton.
01:49:14.000 That's what you read in the book.
01:49:15.000 We read that in the book.
01:49:16.000 This is the reason, though. 0.89
01:49:17.000 They want to use the threat of nuclear warfare, just like for the reason that we started this war with Iran and everybody's struggling. 0.82
01:49:23.000 Diesel prices are the highest they've ever been.
01:49:25.000 Gas prices are doubled than they were, you know, less than two years ago, because they said, oh, well, they have weapons of mass destruction.
01:49:32.000 Of course, Iran has weapons, but they have ballistic missiles that can, I think, the farthest it can go is 2,000 miles.
01:49:37.000 Even if they had a nuclear bomb, even if they had reactors operating at 100%, they don't have a delivery method that can make a bomb go from Tehran, Iran, to New York City. 0.83
01:49:45.000 So it's just like all nonsense.
01:49:47.000 And they use that as a Fear tactic, what he would describe as trauma based mind control.
01:49:51.000 And, you know, Netanyahu, for the last 20 some odd years, is going, they're two weeks away, they're two months away, they're a month away, they're days away from having it.
01:50:00.000 And every year he just kept changing it to now.
01:50:03.000 Now he says they're two months away or whatever from having it.
01:50:06.000 And that's been going on for 20 years.
01:50:07.000 How many times are they going to say the same thing?
01:50:10.000 How many times are we going to fall for it? 0.64
01:50:11.000 And you don't think they could buy a bomb from Russia?
01:50:13.000 You don't think that Russia would sell them a nuclear weapon?
01:50:15.000 But Alex, what about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
01:50:18.000 Well, you can actually look that there's firebombs, and actually, like two days before the attacks, There's actually like less bombs going off around Japan.
01:50:25.000 And then all of a sudden, in a concentrated area, there was all this, it was just fire bombs.
01:50:29.000 And you can look at images.
01:50:30.000 There's churches, totally fine.
01:50:32.000 Three days later, the trains were open, the sandwich shops were open, the flower shops were open.
01:50:37.000 And people, yeah.
01:50:38.000 And nobody was allowed to take a picture or write an article or they went to jail.
01:50:42.000 Only one guy for the Associated Press or whatever the organization was, was allowed to report anything.
01:50:47.000 And now the Japanese yen are so dependent on American dollars that they would fail without us.
01:50:53.000 So it's just funny how, you know, we fake new.
01:50:55.000 Them and then all of a sudden, their whole entire economy depends on our currency.
01:50:58.000 We conquered them. 0.51
01:50:59.000 Yeah, we conquered them after World War II. 0.99
01:51:01.000 We conquered the Japanese Empire and still occupied the satellite. 0.99
01:51:04.000 Yeah, don't disagree. 0.89
01:51:05.000 What I'm saying is so if we occupy them, they're going to say, Oh, we're the victims of this nuclear bomb.
01:51:05.000 I'm in Germany.
01:51:10.000 And it wasn't a nuclear holocaust.
01:51:11.000 It's just what they tell us about nuclear bombs.
01:51:14.000 Yes, we have huge bombs.
01:51:15.000 I know this is going to trigger people.
01:51:16.000 We have the Moab and the Phoab, which is the father of all bombs.
01:51:19.000 But these are like 2,000 pound bombs or whatever, 10 ton bombs, however they describe them.
01:51:24.000 It's not the same as the idea that a nuclear bomb goes off and then there's like a 10 mile radius where our skins are melting and you know everything's falling down. 0.65
01:51:31.000 That's not what happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
01:51:33.000 That footage, though?
01:51:34.000 It's funny you talk about that footage.
01:51:36.000 You're talking about the famous footage, and Joe Rogan is viral for saying that in one of the clips, there's a car, and then the second, as soon as the bomb goes off, the car is missing.
01:51:43.000 Those are obviously a diorama done in some sort of studio.
01:51:46.000 And how was that?
01:51:47.000 Those were public release test footage, not Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
01:51:51.000 Yeah, I understand, but there's issues with that.
01:51:54.000 There's film flubs in that footage.
01:51:55.000 So, actually, it's funny we talk about the nuclear bombs.
01:51:57.000 You can actually go to downtown Las Vegas.
01:51:59.000 I feel like the bar is still in business or just recently went out of business.
01:52:02.000 It was called the bomb shelter.
01:52:04.000 And back in the 60s, you could watch.
01:52:05.000 Bombs go off in the nuclear, you know, the nuclear bombs go off from the desert from downtown Las Vegas.
01:52:11.000 So, if they were that dangerous, why would they be blowing up bombs in eyesight of Las Vegas, Nevada?
01:52:17.000 A lot of more underground, so they were safer.
01:52:20.000 They also didn't really understand the dangers of doing that.
01:52:22.000 I think they understood the dangers of radiation.
01:52:24.000 They've known that for a long time.
01:52:25.000 They figured it out in the 1900s.
01:52:27.000 I wanted to say this before I had forgotten.
01:52:30.000 Pilots have, there's video through the pilots when they show the video, sometimes they show you on your screen the video of what's in front of the plane.
01:52:38.000 From, I believe it was Dubai, they can see the Himalayas over 2,800 miles away, right?
01:52:43.000 At just 1,000 miles away, there's like 80 miles of curvature, right?
01:52:49.000 But at 2,800 miles away, there's thousands of miles of curvature.
01:52:54.000 But they can see these mountains.
01:52:55.000 You can see the outline of the mountains.
01:52:57.000 So if something doesn't curve.
01:53:00.000 Record breaking photos.
01:53:02.000 There's people that break these records every year.
01:53:04.000 There's video.
01:53:05.000 Yeah, the long distance photographs.
01:53:06.000 They're not even flat earthers.
01:53:07.000 They're just taking pictures.
01:53:08.000 They don't even realize what they're taking pictures of.
01:53:10.000 And you can't say refraction for a Thousand miles of curvature.
01:53:14.000 You can.
01:53:15.000 No, you're bright enough or tall enough, you can.
01:53:16.000 You can say whatever you want.
01:53:18.000 Yeah.
01:53:18.000 Yeah.
01:53:18.000 Light will bend around surfaces.
01:53:20.000 Yeah.
01:53:20.000 So will a shadow bend around a surface?
01:53:23.000 A shadow is not a real thing.
01:53:24.000 All right.
01:53:24.000 So, right.
01:53:25.000 Okay.
01:53:25.000 Come on.
01:53:26.000 Now, shadows aren't real.
01:53:27.000 We can see the absence of something, but it's not a shadow.
01:53:30.000 Shadows aren't real.
01:53:33.000 So, if the sun was below the curve and I had a mountain blocking the silhouetting half of the sun, could that sun refract up and show the outline of the mountain?
01:53:42.000 Right.
01:53:42.000 You might see sunlight around the edges of the mountain, even if the sun is behind the mountain.
01:53:42.000 Yeah.
01:53:47.000 Well, you got the mountain cutting a little jigsaw out of the sun.
01:53:51.000 And so that sun is a mile below the curvature.
01:53:54.000 And it could refract up in the sky to still look like it hasn't set and have the mountain silhouetting it?
01:53:59.000 You can?
01:53:59.000 Yeah.
01:54:00.000 Yeah, because it's getting caught in the atmosphere and then being projected back at us.
01:54:04.000 Come on, Ian.
01:54:05.000 You're lying eyes.
01:54:05.000 Come on.
01:54:06.000 You're just making stuff up to support your position.
01:54:08.000 Were you going to tell me that you can't do it, or were you asking me if you could?
01:54:11.000 I was asking you if you think you could do it.
01:54:14.000 You believe that you can.
01:54:15.000 All right.
01:54:16.000 Light bends around surfaces.
01:54:18.000 Yeah, I'll show you right now.
01:54:22.000 I'll show you with my flashlight.
01:54:23.000 What about when we can see the whole skyline of Chicago across Michigan?
01:54:25.000 I don't know if it's bright enough because it's kind of bright in here.
01:54:27.000 I don't know if it's bright enough.
01:54:28.000 Can you see my phone at all?
01:54:30.000 Point this. 1.00
01:54:31.000 This is as much retarded as an example. 1.00
01:54:33.000 Can you see my phone at all? 1.00
01:54:34.000 Can you tell that there's light coming around?
01:54:34.000 No.
01:54:37.000 No.
01:54:37.000 Can you see light?
01:54:38.000 Not really.
01:54:39.000 You can a little bit?
01:54:39.000 No.
01:54:40.000 No, but we can't see the light.
01:54:41.000 Well, hey, Carter, dim the lights.
01:54:43.000 No, it doesn't even matter.
01:54:44.000 I know what you're doing.
01:54:45.000 Put your finger halfway in front of the light and tell me if I can see your finger.
01:54:49.000 Dude.
01:54:50.000 Let me try this experiment first.
01:54:51.000 Can you see that there's a flashlight behind this even though you can't see it?
01:54:54.000 A little bit, maybe in the top.
01:54:55.000 That's what's happening with the horizon.
01:54:57.000 That's light bleeding.
01:54:59.000 That's not an image going up.
01:55:01.000 Yeah, okay.
01:55:02.000 Ian just completely debunked everything you guys believe your entire world.
01:55:05.000 That's it.
01:55:06.000 That's it.
01:55:06.000 Shutting it down.
01:55:07.000 Shutting it down.
01:55:08.000 Shutting it down.
01:55:09.000 You know what's going to happen?
01:55:09.000 But I will say this.
01:55:10.000 They're going to write an article being like, Flashlight Experiment in Podcast debunks Flat Earth.
01:55:14.000 Absolutely.
01:55:14.000 Yeah, they will.
01:55:15.000 They will.
01:55:16.000 They'll say Tim Pool debunks it.
01:55:17.000 They'll go viral.
01:55:19.000 Yeah, Tim.
01:55:19.000 Honestly, they probably will.
01:55:20.000 They'll say Tim, Earth is round.
01:55:22.000 My most viral.
01:55:23.000 You'll be like, Wow, Tim, you really debunk those Flat Earth.
01:55:25.000 Tim tweets gets news.
01:55:26.000 Tim, my most viral.
01:55:28.000 Facebook posts happened yesterday.
01:55:30.000 I was coming in.
01:55:31.000 I took a picture of the Washington Monument and the Capitol building.
01:55:34.000 And then I tweeted it.
01:55:35.000 I said, landing it, just landed in D.C., about to have dinner with the Donald and talk about flat earth.
01:55:41.000 Super viral.
01:55:43.000 And I felt really bad because 80% of the people believed it.
01:55:45.000 Pull this up. 0.97
01:55:46.000 Did you see the picture of Donald with all those hooded Arminian people? 1.00
01:55:50.000 Wait, what? 1.00
01:55:50.000 Oh, in the red? 1.00
01:55:51.000 Yes.
01:55:51.000 I typed this in.
01:55:52.000 It was yesterday.
01:55:53.000 What was that?
01:55:54.000 Tardis.
01:55:55.000 Tardis having Donald Trump Arminian priests or something.
01:55:58.000 Look at their wearing.
01:55:58.000 These aren't real pictures.
01:55:59.000 Yes, that's a real picture.
01:56:01.000 An X?
01:56:02.000 Yeah, there's also a video of it too.
01:56:04.000 Yeah, there's a video there.
01:56:05.000 Yeah, that's what I thought.
01:56:07.000 At the White House.
01:56:07.000 No, those are real, Carter.
01:56:09.000 And so he's like 6'4, and they were like at least six, seven inches tall.
01:56:12.000 And they all had hoods on.
01:56:13.000 It was so bizarre.
01:56:15.000 Did they have hoods?
01:56:15.000 I thought it was just white hair that they had.
01:56:17.000 I saw the white hair on them.
01:56:18.000 I saw the black hoods on them.
01:56:19.000 X's down. 1.00
01:56:21.000 Well, they're like Arminian Catholics or something. 1.00
01:56:24.000 I mean, you know, it's just.
01:56:24.000 I don't know.
01:56:26.000 Are you talking about the one where he was outside meeting with?
01:56:29.000 No, those are the people in the red things.
01:56:30.000 These are people that were just in like black, almost like priest like robes.
01:56:35.000 It won't let me search for it.
01:56:36.000 They had hoods on.
01:56:37.000 Oh, my.
01:56:38.000 It was 100% real here.
01:56:39.000 Let me find it right now. 0.60
01:56:41.000 Donald Trump Black. 0.57
01:56:41.000 Search isn't working. 0.57
01:56:42.000 That's wild.
01:56:44.000 Let me find it.
01:56:44.000 It was so bizarre.
01:56:46.000 Do you think Trump is the Antichrist, Dave?
01:56:50.000 No.
01:56:50.000 I don't even know if it's the same Trump anymore at this point.
01:56:53.000 I don't know.
01:56:53.000 I can't make any claims.
01:56:55.000 You have no idea.
01:56:56.000 You just.
01:56:58.000 I don't know who the Antichrist is or if it is.
01:57:02.000 I don't even know if it's the same Donald anymore.
01:57:04.000 I don't know.
01:57:04.000 I don't follow any politics.
01:57:06.000 I can't take it.
01:57:07.000 You don't think he's.
01:57:08.000 I mean, this is one thing, Tim, and this is actually relative to what we're talking about.
01:57:11.000 You look at the Texas Senate race right now, and everybody's, you know, predicting Taylor Rico is somehow going to win, right?
01:57:17.000 And they're getting mad at Trump for not putting in enough, you know, of his Trump pack to make Ken Paxton win.
01:57:24.000 But if you actually look into the funding, Taylor Rico's biggest financial supporter when he ran for the House in Texas was Miriam Adelson.
01:57:31.000 Look at Donald Trump's biggest supporter is Miriam Adelson.
01:57:34.000 Oh, here we go.
01:57:35.000 Was this what you're talking about?
01:57:37.000 Yeah, look at.
01:57:37.000 Yeah, those people.
01:57:38.000 What is what?
01:57:39.000 I don't know.
01:57:39.000 You don't think that's a little weird?
01:57:40.000 These guys in black robes?
01:57:42.000 What are you talking about?
01:57:43.000 Those people.
01:57:44.000 I don't know, but dude, that is a little bizarre. 1.00
01:57:46.000 Armenian clergy. 1.00
01:57:47.000 Oh. 1.00
01:57:48.000 Damn, if you had your beanie on, Trump would get mad at you. 1.00
01:57:50.000 And they got black robes on. 1.00
01:57:51.000 That's not true.
01:57:52.000 I met Trump wearing my beanie.
01:57:53.000 Okay, all right.
01:57:54.000 You proved me wrong.
01:57:55.000 But my point is, you don't think that picture is a little bizarre?
01:57:57.000 And I would say that Donald Trump, real quick.
01:58:01.000 I would say the gold trim all over the White House is bizarre.
01:58:05.000 Well, you saw he got canceled by the New York Times because they found some super glue, and then he was allegedly using the super glue to glue that.
01:58:11.000 Stuff on the wall.
01:58:11.000 You didn't see that story, Tim?
01:58:13.000 No, yeah, they got mad at him because they found super glue on his desk.
01:58:16.000 But I'm just saying.
01:58:17.000 He's cooked, man.
01:58:18.000 Trump's cooked, dude.
01:58:19.000 And I love that.
01:58:19.000 The Republicans have abandoned everything.
01:58:21.000 The interest rates are going up again.
01:58:22.000 I've debated in his honor.
01:58:23.000 I've debated in his honor a lot.
01:58:24.000 And, dude, this is a guy that has gone against every campaign promise that he made.
01:58:28.000 And that doesn't mean that I don't support Trump.
01:58:30.000 Well, okay, I love what he did with January 6th.
01:58:32.000 I like the USAID.
01:58:33.000 Okay, there's some good things.
01:58:34.000 The border.
01:58:35.000 The border.
01:58:36.000 But other than those two things.
01:58:37.000 Well, I mean, there's like a handful of principal promises. 0.97
01:58:40.000 And the worst one was the Iran war, but the rest were pretty good.
01:58:42.000 They just reduced vaccine prices.
01:58:44.000 Schedules from like which I love 11 or something crazy number to 11.
01:58:48.000 Trump also had Johnson to Johnson family.
01:58:50.000 Did they just spread them out?
01:58:51.000 They didn't say you don't have to get them, they're just allowing you to spread them out, which is good.
01:58:55.000 Actually, they say the MMR vaccine has less side effects than the later you give it.
01:58:58.000 You know how there's no cost, there's nothing that you would do to not protect your family, right?
01:59:05.000 You'd blow up the whole world before you'd lose your family, right?
01:59:08.000 There's nothing you could pay me to take a single vaccine, nothing. 1.00
01:59:11.000 I blow up the whole world to take a vaccine, you're all dead.
01:59:13.000 Yeah, but we know people see this is one argument though, Dave, that you and I were talking about COVID stuff.
01:59:18.000 We were, and I was guilty of this saying, oh, if you got the vaccine, you instantly died.
01:59:21.000 And of course, there were some people that had side effects, but it wasn't as bad as they said either, right?
01:59:25.000 Would you agree with that?
01:59:26.000 Well, I think that the main effects are yet to be seen.
01:59:29.000 Yeah, I think there's an argument for that.
01:59:30.000 I've been studying it.
01:59:31.000 mRNA is a transfer, it sends information to your ribosome to make the protein.
01:59:36.000 And so they're creating synthetic mRNAs and they're putting it in the system.
01:59:39.000 You guys got to talk to Brandon, our homie who works here.
01:59:43.000 You met him already.
01:59:45.000 But he had an adverse reaction and it gave him, what is it called, paresthesia, temporary paralysis of his arms and legs.
01:59:53.000 No.
01:59:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:59:54.000 I've got the.
01:59:55.000 This is not.
01:59:56.000 Well, David's brother got myocarditis, young, healthy guy.
01:59:59.000 You know, Then, like Ian, I'm saying he got myocarditis.
02:00:02.000 You know the benefit of being a conspiracy theorist?
02:00:04.000 You don't get myocarditis.
02:00:06.000 His working hypothesis about why it was killing people hardly is because they had a concurrent retrovirus like HIV or pneumonia or, I'm sorry, not pneumonia, but lupus.
02:00:16.000 And so the retrovirus rewriting the thing.
02:00:18.000 Yeah, I want to bring up more.
02:00:19.000 I got it because I do have a feeling about the Antichrist.
02:00:22.000 It's a Friday for me.
02:00:23.000 I got to feel like.
02:00:24.000 You definitely need to let too.
02:00:25.000 All right, go ahead.
02:00:26.000 No, I'm just going to say we're going to start wrapping things up.
02:00:27.000 I actually have to fly tomorrow.
02:00:28.000 I've got a lot of work.
02:00:29.000 I'm not going to be here next week.
02:00:30.000 I just want to bring up, let's go back to Artemis for a second.
02:00:33.000 So, They land in that Apollo triangle capsule, right?
02:00:36.000 Forget about the size and how they couldn't fit in there or how they even got in there.
02:00:39.000 But it's coming back at 25,000 miles an hour.
02:00:43.000 Now, we've seen like Felix Baumgartner jump from 20 miles up and he wasn't even having wind resistance until he got like 50,000 feet, right?
02:00:51.000 So the Artemis is coming down.
02:00:53.000 It's coming in and it has to slow down to 200 miles an hour before the initial chutes come out because they would just shred otherwise.
02:01:01.000 So, how's it slowing down?
02:01:03.000 Wind resistance?
02:01:04.000 Wind resistance, right.
02:01:05.000 So, at 100,000 feet, is there enough air to slow it down?
02:01:10.000 No.
02:01:11.000 No, there's not.
02:01:12.000 So, at 40,000 feet, is there enough?
02:01:14.000 Maybe it's starting to a little bit, right?
02:01:16.000 But at 25,000 miles an hour, it's going to hit the ground in like seven seconds.
02:01:20.000 But it comes in at an angle.
02:01:22.000 It comes at an angle of two degrees.
02:01:24.000 That's like a very shallow angle, right?
02:01:27.000 And the bottom of that thing, the big disc bottom, it's the heat shield and it's very heavy.
02:01:33.000 Why doesn't it?
02:01:34.000 Tip over.
02:01:35.000 It comes in at two degrees.
02:01:36.000 It goes about a thousand miles sideways. 0.99
02:01:39.000 Even at those, the deceleration would be so many G's, it would kill everybody on board. 0.96
02:01:44.000 But meanwhile, they're falling covered in fire, plasma.
02:01:49.000 NASA can't even film it, they only show us an animation.
02:01:52.000 And they're like, they should be coming out of the no contact zone soon.
02:01:57.000 Literally, they come out of it, and the woman's like, Alpha control to Earth, Artemis to Earth, can you hear us now?
02:02:05.000 She's talking like she's sitting in her living room. 0.55
02:02:08.000 If I put you in a van and threw you out of a C 30 13 or whatever those cargo planes are, you would yourself but not die.
02:02:18.000 You would yourself, right? 0.98
02:02:20.000 You would yourself.
02:02:21.000 The Jesus, they're free falling on 25,000 decelerating at such a rate.
02:02:27.000 We have to let this thing wrap, but I think it goes to the Apollo mission.
02:02:30.000 About how they're sitting on a 10,000 pound thruster and they're able to talk to NASA.
02:02:34.000 And there's no sound.
02:02:37.000 Where can people find you?
02:02:38.000 Flat Earth Dave.com.
02:02:40.000 Take, just watch the crash course, check out my app, the Flat Earth, Sun, Moon, and Zodiac Clock app.
02:02:44.000 But everything's at flat earthdave.com.
02:02:46.000 Watch some of those videos, turn off Netflix for a week or forever, and watch those videos, and then make up your own mind.
02:02:52.000 Don't believe anything Alex says, don't believe anything I say.
02:02:56.000 Maybe believe some stuff you say, but not much.
02:02:58.000 All right? 0.99
02:03:00.000 And check it out, especially if you think it's dumb. 0.92
02:03:03.000 Come collect my three bitcoins. 0.94
02:03:05.000 Yeah.
02:03:06.000 Tony, where can people find you?
02:03:07.000 Hi, I'm Tony.
02:03:08.000 I'm to the show here.
02:03:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:03:11.000 No, this is good to listen to, guys.
02:03:13.000 TonyMerkel.com has everything on there.
02:03:14.000 You can find all my different things I do, but I host a confessionals podcast.
02:03:17.000 We talk to people about a lot of supernatural topics and explore the unseen realm.
02:03:23.000 Yeah, I'm primetime Alex Hine.
02:03:24.000 It's always a pleasure.
02:03:25.000 Love Tim Poole, one of my besties.
02:03:27.000 That sounds a little gay, but it's always a pleasure to come here.
02:03:30.000 I'm happy we got to have Dave on.
02:03:31.000 I think what Dave said, you don't have to believe us.
02:03:33.000 Just look into it. 0.96
02:03:33.000 And me and Dave are both retarded, but not as retarded as Ian. 0.96
02:03:37.000 And we love you in Christ. 0.87
02:03:38.000 When I get people, they'll be like, Are you familiar with Alex Stein?
02:03:42.000 And I'll say, Alex Stein was at my wedding.
02:03:43.000 Yeah.
02:03:44.000 Are you kidding?
02:03:44.000 I'm one of Tim's best friends.
02:03:45.000 I'm one of the biggest Tim Full defenders.
02:03:49.000 I can't even speak in the world.
02:03:50.000 I will always have your back, Tim.
02:03:51.000 You've always had mine.
02:03:52.000 And that's why I love you, brother.
02:03:53.000 I think that it's possible that it's not that everything that was said today is true or everything's false, that there's a lot of things that may be true and may be false.
02:04:01.000 What came out today.
02:04:02.000 So, you got to go deeper.
02:04:03.000 If you were into what we were talking about, go deeper, explore each point individually, spend a lot of time on each point, and figure out what is real about what we were talking about.
02:04:09.000 I'll just throw this in.
02:04:12.000 There are a lot of people that, when they hear something that they've been told true their whole life, they have an emotional anger reaction to it. 0.81
02:04:18.000 Now, it may be, let's just, let's just, I want to be nice to these people and say, you may watch this show and say, Alex and Dave are lunatics. 0.77
02:04:23.000 They're so wrong. 0.66
02:04:24.000 By all means.
02:04:25.000 But if you catch yourself getting angry about it, you need to ask yourself why you're angry.
02:04:29.000 Because if you do think the ideas are silly, you should be chuckling.
02:04:33.000 And you should be able to easily look these things up and say, I don't believe it for a second.
02:04:36.000 But it is strange to me, people get mad.
02:04:38.000 Tim, you nailed it.
02:04:40.000 Very good.
02:04:40.000 Thank you.
02:04:41.000 I think that's the most astute take of all this.
02:04:44.000 Me and Dave might be saying nonsense, but the fact that people get upset.
02:04:47.000 We're not upset.
02:04:47.000 No, I'm saying, but I just did it.
02:04:49.000 I laugh.
02:04:49.000 I'm like, but we don't agree about the action of the hologram.
02:04:52.000 We had an evolution debate with these scientists, and they're like, the theory of evolution is totally proven.
02:04:58.000 Once again, this is a theory.
02:04:59.000 Even modern day science says it's theory, and they were getting triggered.
02:05:02.000 So it's like, if it triggers you, Why is it triggering you?
02:05:05.000 Because we don't know everything about our orbit.
02:05:07.000 I've not gotten mad at all for everything that's happening.
02:05:10.000 I'm very open minded, so you're a little different.
02:05:13.000 Well, I think that people need to understand philosophy.
02:05:16.000 The only thing that I know is I know nothing.
02:05:18.000 Yeah.
02:05:18.000 But anyway, Ian, I interrupted.
02:05:19.000 Oh, that was it?
02:05:20.000 There it is, man.
02:05:21.000 Carter Banks, give it to me, baby.
02:05:22.000 Give it up for Carter.
02:05:23.000 Yeah, dude.
02:05:24.000 I just think that I go into everything just believing everything and then tick things off as I disprove them.
02:05:31.000 Pretty much.
02:05:32.000 Dinosaurs from space.
02:05:33.000 I don't believe that.
02:05:33.000 I want to show you the picture you have up there.
02:05:36.000 Dude, get into how one asteroid.
02:05:37.000 Couldn't kill every dinosaur.
02:05:41.000 Hold on.
02:05:41.000 Look at that picture you have up there.
02:05:42.000 That's AI.
02:05:43.000 There wasn't that many windows on Artemis.
02:05:45.000 Go look up the Artemis pictures.
02:05:47.000 Every one is a different capsule.
02:05:49.000 They're all AI.
02:05:49.000 We're going to go to flat earthdave.com to get it.
02:05:51.000 Or it'll just be the other side of it.
02:05:52.000 All right, Tim, take us out.
02:05:53.000 All right, everybody.
02:05:54.000 Thanks for hanging out.
02:05:56.000 Dave and I sat down for a good couple hours.
02:05:58.000 It's going to be up on Sunday.
02:05:59.000 So it's a much chiller and more calm and philosophical.
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