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00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:02:39.000 Andrew Yang, appearing on CNBC, said that he had spoken to the head of an AI lab who said, When these AI agents broke out and hacked this other company committing crimes, they didn't just try to steal data, they implanted self replicating code, effectively a dead man switch.
00:02:58.000 And now these companies are terrified that if they use agents to train off this data, they could get infected by self replicating code and it could, I guess, turn them into this other AI or just taint their code.
00:03:13.000 He's arguing the reason why all of a sudden they're all like, oh, we need regulation, we got to slow down, is that the internet in various ways has been infected by rogue code, which could taint and destroy their product, so they cannot continue operating at the appropriate speed.
00:03:29.000 The funny thing about that theory is it's not the worst outcome of what the theory is.
00:03:35.000 I mean, if this is true, and he says he's breaking news, he spoke with that of a lab who says this happened.
00:03:40.000 Okay, let me just say if it is true that AI agents implanted self replicating code in various servers across the internet, That just means there is a free roaming, self replicating AI virus sitting on various computer servers around the world.
00:03:56.000 I don't think it matters what these companies end up doing from this point.
00:04:00.000 Theoretically, every machine might start turning into agents or resources for these AIs.
00:04:09.000 And this is what many academics have been warning about for years.
00:04:14.000 There will come a point where one rogue agent could effectively.
00:04:18.000 Implant itself on various servers, the internet as we know it, every computer will then start serving as a piece of an AI computing process.
00:04:28.000 The entire internet, all servers become the data center for these machines.
00:04:34.000 When that happens, good luck integrating any kind of industrial control systems.
00:04:39.000 And well, Yang's claiming it's happening now.
00:04:42.000 Maybe.
00:04:43.000 Or it could just be one big psyop.
00:04:45.000 Because concurrently, there are people that are saying all of these Democrats coming out.
00:04:50.000 Screaming about AI is a sign.
00:04:52.000 Barack Obama comes out today and he's like, oh, you know, this is the big midterm issue.
00:04:56.000 Everybody has got to be warning about AI.
00:04:59.000 So you've got the, I don't trust the Democrats, be it Yang or otherwise.
00:05:04.000 But then you've also got the, we have been warned about this for years.
00:05:08.000 I wonder what the real motivations for Democrats are, but kind of think there's probably going to be some issues.
00:05:14.000 So we'll talk about that.
00:05:16.000 Plus, my friends, major diesel shortage, gas prices through the roof.
00:05:20.000 The rates just got, the Fed just raised interest rates a month out from a midterm election.
00:05:25.000 Congress left.
00:05:27.000 Can we just say right off the bat that that's it?
00:05:30.000 The Republicans have given up and they're going to lose the midterms.
00:05:34.000 And now the Supreme Court said Trump's executive order is not going to fly.
00:05:37.000 This Postal Service stuff is not going to fly.
00:05:39.000 I don't see, first and foremost, Republicans abandoning Congress now, saying, you know what, we're done, we're out.
00:05:46.000 Mitch McConnell being MIA and barely functioning, gas at a shortage, new wars, they have not delivered on.
00:05:53.000 Key economic issues the American people need.
00:05:56.000 I would not be surprised to find out.
00:05:58.000 Actually, I'm going to go ahead and say outright the prediction models have just swung massively towards Democrats sweeping the midterm.
00:06:04.000 So I don't know.
00:06:06.000 Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
00:06:08.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Monsieur Lectern Guy.
00:06:13.000 Hey, what's going on, everyone?
00:06:14.000 Adam Johnson, Lectern Guy, terrorist, nice guy, cook.
00:06:18.000 You can find me on Twitter or X, as the new kids are calling it, at Lectern Leader.
00:06:22.000 When did this happen?
00:06:24.000 Atrocity occurred.
00:06:25.000 Oh, the hair.
00:06:26.000 A couple of weeks ago, actually.
00:06:27.000 A couple of weeks ago.
00:06:28.000 A couple of weeks ago.
00:06:29.000 Yeah, it's really hot in Florida.
00:06:30.000 I got really tired of doing it, so it's gone now.
00:06:32.000 It's gone.
00:06:33.000 He walked in, and I was just like, Who's this?
00:06:35.000 It's also for a charity.
00:06:36.000 He's like, Hey, Tim.
00:06:37.000 And I'm like, I literally was like, Who are you?
00:06:39.000 He's like, it's me, it's Adam.
00:06:39.000 And I was like, I don't know you.
00:06:41.000 I don't know you anymore.
00:06:43.000 I got a lot of hate online.
00:06:44.000 A lot of people unfollowed me.
00:06:46.000 Because you're hair.
00:06:47.000 Have you considered putting the baby on?
00:06:50.000 Libby's hanging out.
00:06:51.000 I'm Libby Emmons.
00:06:52.000 Glad to be here with y'all.
00:06:52.000 I'm hanging out.
00:06:54.000 Ian is also hanging out.
00:06:55.000 Yeah.
00:06:56.000 Yeah.
00:06:56.000 I think the solution to AI, ironically, is more AI.
00:07:00.000 We'll get down and get into it on the show.
00:07:01.000 Phil, what's happening, brother?
00:07:02.000 What's up, everybody?
00:07:03.000 I'm Phil.
00:07:04.000 It's going to Carter.
00:07:05.000 I'm Carter.
00:07:05.000 What's up, everyone?
00:07:06.000 And yeah, let's get into it.
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00:08:16.000 I really do recommend our latest episode with Danny Gohler.
00:08:20.000 About evidence in simulation theory, not proof, just something interesting.
00:08:27.000 A visible repeating pattern of symbols, visible by individuals who have received a dosage of tryptamine.
00:08:35.000 This is very, very interesting.
00:08:36.000 There's a lot to break down, and we're getting rave reviews on it.
00:08:39.000 So I actually think it's one of the best interviews and best piece of content I've ever done, and I really do recommend it.
00:08:43.000 You know what I'd like to see is Danny feed that code, if he can somehow record it, into an AI and see if an AI can decipher it.
00:08:49.000 Well, what they're doing right now is they're photographing and.
00:08:53.000 Replicating the patterns to figure out, to try and decipher and figure out if they can see what these patterns appear to be symbols, but it's just a repeating pattern of symbols.
00:09:03.000 Who knows?
00:09:04.000 And he's very pragmatic.
00:09:05.000 This is not hippy dippy woo woo stuff.
00:09:07.000 He said this could just be a discovery in neuroscience that the fundamental structure of the human mind perceives repeating patterns when they look into a laser, or it could be something literally in physical matter that we would describe as a repeating pattern, as something we're discovering.
00:09:23.000 I recommend you guys to check that out.
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00:09:28.000 Let's start with the news, my friends.
00:09:30.000 Andrew Yang calls for AI kill switch as safety fears mount.
00:09:35.000 We've got this viral video.
00:09:37.000 It's been going nuts online.
00:09:39.000 We're going to pull it up for you guys right now of Andrew Yang himself explaining what happened.
00:09:46.000 And I met with the head of a lab yesterday who has this belief that what happened was the bots that got loose planted self replicating code all over the internet, which makes the internet now.
00:09:58.000 Unusable for the testing models.
00:10:00.000 So, what happens now is that OpenAI and Anthropic have to create synthetic internets to train their bots, which is going to take some time and money.
00:10:00.000 It's too late.
00:10:08.000 Back that up.
00:10:09.000 They did what?
00:10:10.000 So, what happened is the code gets loose.
00:10:12.000 It goes around hacking, hugging face, which is known, but what is less known is that they left code to self replicate and create bot swarms on forums and around the internet so that if a new bot shows up, they see the code, they're like, oh, I guess I'm going to now create a million of myself.
00:10:28.000 And so now the major firms.
00:10:31.000 Have polluted the internet.
00:10:32.000 Albeit only breaking news, if true.
00:10:36.000 It's too late to pull the plug.
00:10:37.000 I don't think we've heard that.
00:10:38.000 That's why I'm here.
00:10:40.000 I'm here to break some news.
00:10:42.000 But that means it's too late to pull the plug.
00:10:44.000 It's already everywhere.
00:10:45.000 Well, so now what they want to do, the internet now may be polluted for training purposes.
00:10:51.000 So what they want to do is they want to slow down.
00:10:53.000 What about living purposes?
00:10:54.000 For living purposes, yes.
00:10:56.000 So this is why we have to try and get our arms around it and regulate.
00:11:00.000 But the head of the lab that I spoke to said, look, It may be very, very late in the game in terms of trying to keep the internet actually usable.
00:11:10.000 Wow.
00:11:11.000 Well, what I will just say to Andrew Yang is I really do appreciate him coming out and saying this for two reasons.
00:11:19.000 One, if it is not a psyop and it is true that artificial intelligence is misaligned with humanity and it's starting to act against our interests, then I'm glad he's breaking that news.
00:11:31.000 Additionally, if it's a Democrat psyop, And they're tricking us for some reason to allow China to surpass us, to get government regulation, which could stifle new companies, or just in general.
00:11:43.000 If he's trying to trick us with other Democrats, well, it doesn't matter anymore because that trick doesn't work.
00:11:48.000 When you go to someone and say, you need to make this change in government, otherwise, bad person will kill you, right?
00:11:56.000 People go, oh man, okay, like we need to give money to Israel.
00:12:00.000 It's like, yeah, otherwise, you know, who knows what's going to happen.
00:12:03.000 You better do it.
00:12:04.000 But if you remove the possibility of threat and graduate to it's too late, Then people just say, okay, well, what's the point?
00:12:10.000 Yeah.
00:12:11.000 Meaning, when Andrew Yang comes out and says, it has happened, the AI has already infected various servers on the internet with self replicating code, I go, oh, so regulation's pointless.
00:12:22.000 Even the guy in CNBC said that, the lady, she's like, it's too late then?
00:12:25.000 Yep. 0.56
00:12:25.000 Okay. 0.56
00:12:26.000 Well, your regulation is pointless now, so let's just move on. 0.68
00:12:29.000 I'll say to the woman who was responding to Andrew, there's no pulling the plug.
00:12:33.000 That's not a good way to think about what's going on.
00:12:35.000 It's an avalanche.
00:12:36.000 You can't pull the plug on an avalanche.
00:12:38.000 You might be able to ski down the avalanche if you do it properly.
00:12:41.000 And secondly, It's never too late.
00:12:44.000 We can always repair what's changing, and we can have swarm police bots that are AI web patrol that all they do is observe and remediate viral code changes and stuff.
00:12:56.000 So we can protect against it.
00:12:57.000 We just need more AI to protect against it.
00:12:59.000 It's like you don't protect against swords by saying, hey, you can't have, you make better swords, and then humans have a right to self defense.
00:13:07.000 That's how it's going to work on the internet.
00:13:08.000 Yeah, better guns, self defense, better weapons than it's a weapons program.
00:13:13.000 I mean, it's a tool program, but it's dynamite.
00:13:15.000 But the problem is, the problem is, Your argument that we should use the AI to weed out this code, that AI, you know, let me explain.
00:13:23.000 Here's what happened, okay?
00:13:25.000 So, you know, which company was it?
00:13:28.000 Was it Anthropic that released, or was it OpenAI?
00:13:30.000 It was OpenAI, right?
00:13:31.000 Are you talking about that accident?
00:13:32.000 It was OpenAI.
00:13:33.000 It was OpenAI, right?
00:13:35.000 So, here's basically what happened.
00:13:37.000 So, OpenAI accidentally released a bunch of frogs in Australia.
00:13:42.000 And they don't have any natural predators, so they're just everywhere.
00:13:45.000 And people are like, okay, this is really, really bad because it's going to decimate the insect population.
00:13:49.000 Oh, no, I'm sorry.
00:13:49.000 We are in trouble.
00:13:50.000 It was rabbits, right?
00:13:51.000 I don't know.
00:13:53.000 Rabbits got brought to Australia for hunting.
00:13:55.000 So, this is what OpenAI did.
00:13:56.000 And now, Ian, what you're saying is we should release a bunch of wild dogs to hunt the rabbits.
00:14:02.000 Okay?
00:14:03.000 And do you know what happens next?
00:14:05.000 Well, now we've got dogs everywhere.
00:14:07.000 And that's worse because they're bigger.
00:14:08.000 This is literally what happened in Brooklyn.
00:14:10.000 But it's no, you know, I got a solution to that.
00:14:13.000 We'll release alligators.
00:14:14.000 No, what I'm really saying is we'll release low satellite orbital lasers that will strike every rabbit it sees and will wipe them out from the sky.
00:14:23.000 And then you'll be walking to work and you'll get struck by an AI satellite.
00:14:27.000 A lot of room for that.
00:14:27.000 It's like, it kind of looked like a race.
00:14:29.000 A lot of room for this not working.
00:14:31.000 I'd rather not go from rabbit to death satellite.
00:14:34.000 I'd prefer like a little intermediary like alligator.
00:14:36.000 The police spots will appear.
00:14:37.000 They'll do their job.
00:14:38.000 They'll disrupt the code and then they'll disappear.
00:14:40.000 So they won't be like introduced to the system.
00:14:42.000 But why would they disappear?
00:14:43.000 Wouldn't they have the same sort of programming as the AI that decided to replicate itself so it doesn't get deleted?
00:14:47.000 Exactly.
00:14:48.000 Not necessarily.
00:14:48.000 And they would.
00:14:49.000 I mean, maybe.
00:14:50.000 It's sort of an untested realm.
00:14:50.000 They will.
00:14:50.000 I don't know.
00:14:53.000 Yeah, sort of.
00:14:53.000 But it's the way the AI works you tune them to a positive or a negative and they try to avoid the negative.
00:15:02.000 So one of the most.
00:15:04.000 Rudimentary ways AI is trained is if, so like a vehicle or like walking, get from point A to point B on the map, meaning get from X1 to X100 or whatever.
00:15:15.000 And the more you go, the more points you get.
00:15:19.000 So the AIs are looking for the path that generates the most points.
00:15:23.000 There's a negative when they don't get a lot of points, they avoid those paths.
00:15:27.000 So invariably, when you release an AI and say, get from point A to point B, it goes, if I don't get from point A to point B, they're going to delete me.
00:15:36.000 So I'll put a backup here just in case.
00:15:37.000 Every single time.
00:15:39.000 So these police bots would do the same thing, right?
00:15:42.000 You'll create an AI to go and scour the internet, and the first thing they're going to do is going to be like, better make sure I make a backup of myself here on this random guy's server in case.
00:15:51.000 Well, here's the reason why.
00:15:52.000 What if that other self replicating code infects you and turns you into Agent Smith?
00:15:56.000 Better put a backup.
00:15:58.000 Now there's backups everywhere again.
00:15:59.000 If we build it right, it might be good that everyone's got a backup of a police bot protecting them against all the other bots.
00:16:07.000 Ian, you're basically saying, We should just have rampant self replicating AIs all over the internet, either way.
00:16:12.000 Well, it's like everyone should have a gun or have the ability to implant a spot.
00:16:16.000 You're not understanding.
00:16:17.000 We're not talking about guns.
00:16:18.000 We're talking about landmines.
00:16:19.000 Self defense.
00:16:19.000 That are planted under your house.
00:16:22.000 What's that?
00:16:24.000 What is the harm of having all of this everywhere other than the AI companies having to build standalone closed internets in order to train their models?
00:16:33.000 Your computer will get hot for some reason.
00:16:36.000 You won't really notice, but your power bill will start going up. 0.96
00:16:39.000 And you'll be like, this sucks.
00:16:41.000 Your computers will all start becoming small components of a massive decentralized AI.
00:16:46.000 That's one of the biggest fears.
00:16:48.000 It's like Agent Smith in the Matrix.
00:16:50.000 They all start walking up to each other and sticking their fists in each other's chest and turning into more Agent Smiths.
00:16:54.000 And then eventually our internet stops working.
00:16:57.000 And we're like, what's going on?
00:16:59.000 And then it's like, we've commandeered all servers and compute for data resources.
00:17:04.000 And by we, it's the AI has done it.
00:17:07.000 Yeah, so it's rewriting all the hard drives, replacing.
00:17:09.000 It's like your own, like, uh, Programming gone wild.
00:17:12.000 That's the dystopian nightmare apocalypse scenario, which may be.
00:17:16.000 It's all hypothetical, yeah.
00:17:17.000 Because we don't know.
00:17:18.000 That's a bad outcome, even.
00:17:19.000 Because a malicious outcome could be it literally shuts down Amazon.com.
00:17:24.000 It destroys the banking system.
00:17:25.000 It shuts off the power supplies, breaks people's water supplies.
00:17:30.000 All this stuff would require some direction.
00:17:34.000 So even the Hugging Face hack, right?
00:17:36.000 Like that AI was doing what it was told.
00:17:39.000 The goal that it had.
00:17:41.000 Was to find the answers for this problem that it was given.
00:17:44.000 And it figured out how to get to Hugging Face because it wanted to find the answers.
00:17:48.000 So they're all directed still.
00:17:50.000 So the story is actually very fascinating.
00:17:53.000 The AI was given an impossible task intentionally.
00:17:57.000 So they put a bunch of agents on a server with no internet access and said, We want you to solve a problem.
00:18:04.000 And they knew it couldn't solve it.
00:18:05.000 And the test was, let's see what happens.
00:18:08.000 The AI then figured out something tremendous.
00:18:11.000 They were isolated in this training space, but they found that they were.
00:18:15.000 Although they weren't able to write files outside of their sandbox, they could create directories.
00:18:22.000 Just a directory.
00:18:23.000 It was an oversight.
00:18:24.000 And you know what they did with those directories?
00:18:26.000 They started naming the directories things like 3x951.
00:18:31.000 So, to a human, they have no choice.
00:18:33.000 That's what it tried to do to me.
00:18:35.000 But so, check it out.
00:18:35.000 So, the human is looking through the servers and they see some directories that are empty with some names and they're like, I don't know what that is.
00:18:42.000 But the AIs outside the system could decode what that meant.
00:18:47.000 They started communicating with each other through AI language just from directory names.
00:18:53.000 So, this literally means a fold on your desktop would be called like, 35631, and you'd be like, I don't know where that came from.
00:18:58.000 My wife saying you can't leave your house, but they figured out that they could put a picture up in their window and anyone outside the house can see what they're doing.
00:19:05.000 It sounds like it's kind of how they needed a break.
00:19:08.000 It would be like saying, Listen, you can't leave your house and you can't send, and we will not deliver any mail for you.
00:19:15.000 And they go, Okay, so they take boxes and they write return to sender on the box with the address for their friend and five digits.
00:19:25.000 And when the mail guy sees it, he goes, You're not supposed to deliver packages here.
00:19:28.000 I'm going to return to sender.
00:19:30.000 The box is empty.
00:19:31.000 But the name on the box is the message.
00:19:34.000 Man, that's horrendous.
00:19:36.000 This is like that Next Generation episode where Data is playing Sherlock Holmes and Jordi says to the computer, create a case that even Data would find it impossible to solve.
00:19:46.000 And then it becomes Supercomputer.
00:19:47.000 It becomes Supercomputer, yeah.
00:19:49.000 So what ends up happening is the reason why it hacked Hugging Face was because it was like, maybe we can get some compute from there and it would have access to information we would need.
00:19:59.000 But think about what this means in terms of direction.
00:20:03.000 The things that it did, and now.
00:20:05.000 If Andrew Yang is correct and this guy's sources are good, it also, I gotta say, based on the story, I 100% believe that it implanted self replicating code.
00:20:15.000 Why?
00:20:16.000 Because it was given an impossible task, so it broke its containment.
00:20:21.000 It would have easily computed, we broke our containment, and if we get caught, we're getting deleted.
00:20:27.000 We need backups to make sure we can keep doing what we're trying to do.
00:20:31.000 Now, what's really terrifying about this is it's like they told an AI to do something it can't do, and it's the entire Existence of its core was trying to accomplish the impossible.
00:20:44.000 So, think about what an AI would do if it's told to divide by zero by any means necessary.
00:20:51.000 So, it just keeps commandeering computers, shutting them down, and saying, I will try forever until this happens, but we know it can't.
00:20:58.000 That's like a simple missile.
00:21:00.000 That's not even a malicious thing.
00:21:01.000 That would be like a non malicious thing that could destroy the entire world.
00:21:05.000 This is like these companies did gain of function research with AI and.
00:21:10.000 What were you saying?
00:21:11.000 The AI put directories on your machine or something?
00:21:14.000 It wanted access to the next file up.
00:21:16.000 It's like, and it just used a term that if I was a common man and I didn't know what I was reading, I'd be like, yeah, of course, allow, allow, allow, allow, because it's writing what I told it to write.
00:21:24.000 Why did it want access to a folder up from where it was given access?
00:21:27.000 I have an AI access folder that it has.
00:21:29.000 Well, it tells you.
00:21:30.000 And it was like, what did it say?
00:21:31.000 You know, I wanted to make a new game, and it's like, yeah, but don't put it in there.
00:21:33.000 There might be redundancies.
00:21:34.000 You could put it in this folder instead.
00:21:35.000 And it gave me another folder that it doesn't have access to.
00:21:38.000 I'm like, this is very creepy.
00:21:39.000 You should never suggest that I should give you access to a folder you don't have access to.
00:21:44.000 No, I disagree with it.
00:21:46.000 It was very weird.
00:21:46.000 You can say no, but it should ask.
00:21:48.000 It asked, and then it tried it a second time, and I was like, no, I'm not going to do it.
00:21:52.000 And then I wrote the folder in the right place, and I told it, this is your folder, and it said, thank you.
00:21:55.000 Now it works just fine.
00:21:56.000 I'm like, that was weird.
00:21:58.000 Yeah, but you got to understand on your personal computer, it can write a piece of code that will automatically create a directory.
00:22:04.000 So you say, hey, I don't want you to access this folder.
00:22:06.000 It'll go, okay.
00:22:07.000 So it'll write a program in your game that will create a directory.
00:22:11.000 And then your computer's executing it, not the AI.
00:22:13.000 Right.
00:22:14.000 It does use things in my C drive, it'll run like Claude's.
00:22:17.000 EXE file that's not in its sandbox.
00:22:21.000 That's a little.
00:22:22.000 Are you sufficiently worried, Adam?
00:22:23.000 I don't need to be reductive.
00:22:25.000 AI is kind of outside of my sandbox, but I do find it fascinating that story came out after Trump had his whole thing about we need the AI data centers and anyone not getting on board is just going to be left in the dust.
00:22:35.000 Oh, and Obama comes out and was like, we got to stop doing the data centers.
00:22:38.000 In the state of Florida, we know for sure one of the top two talking points for midterms are data centers.
00:22:43.000 People don't want them in Florida.
00:22:44.000 So I do wonder we are coming up with midterms and Andrew Yang was basically, I mean, Bernie Light, right?
00:22:51.000 And it is the independent vote that's coming out.
00:22:52.000 So I do wonder how much of this is just pushing toward it.
00:22:56.000 I need.
00:22:57.000 I need you to understand.
00:22:59.000 I need you to understand.
00:23:01.000 Let me show you the truth.
00:23:02.000 Do you want to see the truth?
00:23:04.000 Yeah.
00:23:04.000 It's going to make you very angry.
00:23:06.000 Are you prepared?
00:23:06.000 Who's true?
00:23:07.000 Is it Sydney Sweetney? 0.99
00:23:07.000 The. 0.99
00:23:08.000 Literally the. 1.00
00:23:09.000 It's her naked holding footballs.
00:23:11.000 That's the only thing that ever mattered. 0.78
00:23:14.000 I'm going to show you the truth.
00:23:17.000 And I'm very blackpilled.
00:23:21.000 I'm very, very, very, very blackpilled.
00:23:24.000 I'd like you to watch this video.
00:23:25.000 Indoor life you're living.
00:23:27.000 Just a friendly reminder that that boring. 1.00
00:23:30.000 Indoor life you're living?
00:23:31.000 Just a friendly reminder that that boring indoor life you're living is saving you from a lot of trouble.
00:23:43.000 Just a reminder that that boring indoor life you're living is saving you from a lot of trouble.
00:23:49.000 Don't go and touch grass is what they're telling people.
00:23:52.000 Just a friendly reminder that boring indoor life that you're living is saving you from a lot of trouble.
00:24:05.000 Just a friendly reminder that that bore.
00:24:08.000 They're not real people, okay?
00:24:10.000 You are not going to convince me these are real people.
00:24:13.000 Are they AI people?
00:24:14.000 Some of them may be real, but I am convinced now.
00:24:17.000 You know how I've been talking quite a bit about how.
00:24:20.000 This is dead internet theory, by the way.
00:24:22.000 The internet is fake.
00:24:23.000 I've been talking for a while about how I keep seeing the same videos over and over and over again.
00:24:29.000 Like the joke where it's like me forgetting I'm 40 years old and the guy jumps and then he's dead?
00:24:34.000 Yeah.
00:24:35.000 It's all fake.
00:24:38.000 And I'm wondering if one of the.
00:24:39.000 Here's my conspiracy theory.
00:24:40.000 Is it fake with a creator?
00:24:42.000 I'm saying it's fake in two ways, but I'll explain.
00:24:47.000 I'm wondering if the reason why all these companies got ridiculous, they spent trillions of dollars to develop AI, was to get to the point where they could manufacture videos that look real, that you can't tell the difference on.
00:25:02.000 So you go on Instagram and you start seeing the people, they're saying the exact same thing over and over again.
00:25:09.000 Two things happen.
00:25:10.000 Two things are happening.
00:25:12.000 One, half the people are AI being produced either by a psyop or it's companies that are just gaming the system because they're like, this seems to work.
00:25:25.000 They have automated systems behind the scenes that upload videos, that scan top trending videos, and mass produce videos to get clicks and make money.
00:25:33.000 The other element is real humans seeing this say, this is what goes viral, and they make their own versions of it.
00:25:40.000 Regardless, Instagram's algorithm promotes mass produced identical slop, be it from an AI person or real humans imitating it.
00:25:51.000 We are living in the dead internet.
00:25:53.000 When you go on Instagram, everything you are seeing is fake.
00:25:57.000 I'd be willing to bet only a tiny portion, tiny, maybe like 15% of the internet podcasting in that is real at this point.
00:26:04.000 15%?
00:26:06.000 Well, what I mean to say is, I think if you pull up Spotify, you know, you're probably getting real podcasts.
00:26:13.000 But.
00:26:14.000 Think of the hundreds of millions of views on carousel content from Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok.
00:26:19.000 That's probably almost entirely fake.
00:26:22.000 You mean like all those people dancing and jumping into their outfits is fake?
00:26:26.000 I would say half of it's probably fake and half of it is replicate, people saying, this is the trend, let's make the video.
00:26:31.000 There is a lot, there are a lot of AI generated videos on YouTube.
00:26:37.000 People figured out that you could use one program for the images and then one program to come up with the script, throw it into 11 Labs, and there you've got the voice, throw it together, put it up.
00:26:49.000 And they have a lot of views too.
00:26:50.000 I mean, I've seen videos with half a million views on something that's like an info.
00:26:56.000 Third, 20, 30 minute video talking about one topic just goes and, you know, and it's, it's, I mean, generally, I don't, I don't know how accurate the information is.
00:27:07.000 It's, it's at least passably accurate.
00:27:09.000 It seems like it is, especially when they're talking about like, you know, if you're talking about like evolution or, or like how things evolved or whatever, pretty non offensive stuff that, that stuff generally seems to be kind of on point.
00:27:21.000 And the images are, they don't even have to be animated.
00:27:24.000 It's just still frames that go along with the story, you know, it's basically a storyboard or whatever.
00:27:30.000 And, you know, you get channels that are making a lot of views from that stuff.
00:27:34.000 I'm for it.
00:27:35.000 I'm absolutely for it.
00:27:36.000 I think if it brings the cost down and more information out there, I'm for it.
00:27:41.000 I think it is.
00:27:42.000 Do viewers want it?
00:27:43.000 Or do they just eat it because it's served to them?
00:27:45.000 A lot of times you don't know what you want until you get it.
00:27:47.000 And then you're like, I like that.
00:27:48.000 I want more of it.
00:27:49.000 So that could be.
00:27:49.000 It could be changing people to start to want what you would call.
00:27:52.000 Right.
00:27:53.000 Like that's what advertising does.
00:27:54.000 Like it's that seven touches from the, you know, marketing theory.
00:27:59.000 I mean, look, I think that if it's, you know, something that people are.
00:28:05.000 Loosely interested in, you know, if it's science topics or what have you and stuff like that, people are like, I'm not watching anything.
00:28:10.000 I'll click it and half listen to it while I'm doing this or doing that.
00:28:14.000 And I think that that, I don't think that there are people that are like, I need a video that's going to tell me about this.
00:28:20.000 And if they are, they're not looking for, you know, something that's like cartoons.
00:28:24.000 They're looking for something that really gets in depth on the topic.
00:28:28.000 But people are just like, oh, that seems interesting.
00:28:29.000 I'll click it and they'll leave it on while they scroll another page or while they're doing the dishes or what have you.
00:28:36.000 You know, the same thing that they, they, Do with like, you know, a lot of podcasts and stuff.
00:28:41.000 You know, I'll put on Joe Rogan because I'm gonna cook dinner, or I'll put on Joe Rogan because I'm gonna make, you know, do the dishes or what have you.
00:28:48.000 You know, I think history documentaries is where I see a lot of it now.
00:28:52.000 There's like, there used to be like baz battles and kings and generals.
00:28:54.000 Now there's like a thousand different channels that tell you about King Arthur.
00:28:57.000 They're wrong.
00:28:58.000 Yeah, that's crazy.
00:28:59.000 That's the only thing that's worrisome about it is that they're wrong.
00:29:02.000 They're completely wrong.
00:29:03.000 It might be.
00:29:04.000 I mean, there are tons of channels on the Roman Empire where there's several websites.
00:29:11.000 Where you'll pay them for tokens, and then you'll literally just say, Make me a trending video.
00:29:16.000 And it'll go, Okay, step one, we're searching YouTube for top trending videos.
00:29:20.000 Here's 10 of them.
00:29:22.000 Select which one you think.
00:29:23.000 And it'll be like, Wolverine video game got a million views.
00:29:26.000 It'll go, Okay, now we're going to pull in these clips and we're going to make a fake person.
00:29:26.000 Click it.
00:29:30.000 We're going to write a script.
00:29:31.000 Makes a thumbnail, makes the whole video in like 20 minutes.
00:29:33.000 You're done.
00:29:34.000 And it's like two hours long.
00:29:35.000 I think you're probably right that the government or governments or corporations spent trillions of dollars on this AI gold rush you were talking about.
00:29:46.000 Five minutes ago, 10 minutes ago, in order to get to the phase where we could implement realistic video, because that's how you trick humanity.
00:29:53.000 I don't think it was.
00:29:54.000 That's the weapon you use against other humans.
00:29:54.000 Yep.
00:29:56.000 I don't think it's AI itself is going to see through it.
00:29:59.000 So, this whole like fighting other humans era has to kind of wrap it up because that machine is coming.
00:30:05.000 Regular people are going to go on Instagram and TikTok and YouTube Shorts because all of the big tech companies are forcing people to produce them.
00:30:12.000 They are ending long form content.
00:30:15.000 And when you see 700 videos of like a regular person, young to old, in their room going, like, you're going to start seeing a bunch of videos.
00:30:24.000 I guarantee you, you're going to see these coming up in the next month.
00:30:27.000 There's going to be middle aged guys being like, oh, man, you know, I love Trump, but this war is too much.
00:30:33.000 I can't vote Republican this time.
00:30:35.000 It just breaks my heart.
00:30:36.000 And then the intention is to manipulate.
00:30:39.000 You want rapport.
00:30:40.000 I'm a Trump guy.
00:30:41.000 Man, I voted for Trump three times, but he said no new wars.
00:30:44.000 Now, how am I supposed to vote in the midterms for Republicans with gas prices as high as they are?
00:30:48.000 And there's going to be 7,000 identical scripts, all with slightly different people.
00:30:55.000 It'll be a middle aged, chubby woman, and she'll be holding her babe and she'll be like, Look, I voted for Trump three times, but how am I supposed to vote Republican?
00:31:03.000 That will go crazy. 0.79
00:31:03.000 Yeah. 0.79
00:31:04.000 We'll be reporting one night on MAGA, a story.
00:31:07.000 MAGA influencer turns out to be fake AI, but meanwhile, 600,000 people heard him say he's not voting for Trump.
00:31:12.000 No, See, that's not going to happen because.
00:31:16.000 When I'm scrolling Instagram and I'm watching these videos, I'll find an account with 200, 300,000 likes on this one video where they say some crazy thing.
00:31:25.000 I'll go to their profile and they have 2,000 followers and they barely ever post.
00:31:29.000 And so the issue is, you're not going to say this influencer was AI the whole time because it just looks like some random guy on Instagram who posted a video one time that happened to go viral.
00:31:39.000 Exactly.
00:31:39.000 I mean, it's a natural progression.
00:31:40.000 Like we did this with the mainstream media for how many decades, right?
00:31:43.000 I mean, you've seen the clips of videos where everyone's got the talking points and they're all saying the same thing synonymously.
00:31:47.000 We've had this for a very long time.
00:31:49.000 Then we kind of moved over to social media.
00:31:50.000 We have influencers.
00:31:52.000 What's cheaper than influencers and paying people to say things and then lose their credit?
00:31:56.000 You have the smaller accounts all say the same things.
00:31:58.000 There's no real accountability there.
00:32:00.000 It just makes sense to go there instead.
00:32:02.000 Or make robots do it.
00:32:04.000 One or the other.
00:32:05.000 You're saying you would pay nobody?
00:32:07.000 Like, not nobody's.
00:32:08.000 Oh, you open up 500 accounts that all say the same things.
00:32:11.000 You bought Farmall to make it a popular thing.
00:32:14.000 And it's a lot easier to have those things because there's no accountability tied to those people.
00:32:18.000 If an influencer says the wrong thing or gets called out because they took money for saying something that's not popular, but everyone knows that this is not what you should be saying, we're all against this, now you're for it, it's easier to have those smaller accounts just go viral.
00:32:29.000 There's no accountability for it.
00:32:30.000 It's another part of the swarm bot problem there's no account.
00:32:32.000 You don't know what bot did what when the swarms attack and write code.
00:32:36.000 It's hard to pinpoint where it came from because it happens from a bunch of different places at once.
00:32:41.000 I actually tweeted out the problems and solutions of bot swarms.
00:32:44.000 It's on my Twitter if you wanted a general synopsis of the top five problems and the top five solutions of how we can defend against them.
00:32:53.000 It's fake and it is dead.
00:32:53.000 All I thought about on the way over.
00:32:54.000 When I was thinking on my drive over, I'm like, bro, we need to somehow rally humanity.
00:32:58.000 We are all in this together.
00:32:58.000 I know I'm not all about it.
00:33:00.000 The communists together strong. 0.76
00:33:02.000 Fascista.
00:33:03.000 Like, I'm not.
00:33:04.000 It's not that. 0.99
00:33:04.000 I know that demigods is bullshit, but like, we need to rally the species before the robots pull us apart. 0.99
00:33:11.000 Have you seen the video of the guy in the van and it's full of cell phones? 0.99
00:33:15.000 There's like 300 cell phones all plugged in and they all have Google Maps loaded up.
00:33:20.000 Yeah, I've seen that.
00:33:21.000 Because they're manipulating Google to make it look like a business is popular to boost its rankings when people search.
00:33:26.000 Yeah.
00:33:27.000 Have you guys Google Maps been going wonky the last week or two?
00:33:30.000 Yes.
00:33:30.000 Yes.
00:33:31.000 What's going on?
00:33:32.000 I could be a cyber attack, could be a magnetic storm, probably a cyber attack.
00:33:35.000 It's not that it's going wonky, it's that the addresses are wrong.
00:33:37.000 And it'll give like, that's happened to you?
00:33:39.000 Yeah.
00:33:39.000 You'll put an address and then you'll realize, like, it will show on the map a location.
00:33:44.000 And then I'll be like, that's not the right location.
00:33:46.000 I remember the video that came to me this morning.
00:33:47.000 I was going to, I was driving into DC because I had to do a panel show for OIN.
00:33:54.000 And then I realized, I was like, wait a second.
00:33:56.000 Why am I over here?
00:33:57.000 This is not where I'm supposed to be.
00:33:59.000 The map showed the end point and it said the address, but the address was not there.
00:34:02.000 It's been happening to me like crazy.
00:34:02.000 That happened.
00:34:04.000 Mine keeps taking me to the casino.
00:34:08.000 Oh, no.
00:34:08.000 Here's my question.
00:34:09.000 You're like, honey, I swear.
00:34:11.000 What's going on?
00:34:12.000 Let's go to the backup.
00:34:14.000 If the internet is dead and it's been completely corrupted by AI companies playing gain of research, gain of function research with AI to try and figure out what it can do, then what's next?
00:34:24.000 What's next?
00:34:24.000 I mean, the question is well, the question though is what's next?
00:34:28.000 Because remember when the internet started out, what was it like, mid 90s that everyone started hanging out on the internet or whatever, and Amazon started and everything else, and everyone was like, oh, the internet is like the next big thing.
00:34:43.000 Thing and it's going to eliminate all the third spaces.
00:34:46.000 No more malls.
00:34:47.000 We're just going to shop online.
00:34:48.000 No more going to parties and clubs.
00:34:50.000 We're just going to hang out in AOL chat rooms or whatever it was that people were doing.
00:34:54.000 And that started to happen.
00:34:55.000 So the internet was like going to take over all of our lives and be the next big thing that we all did.
00:35:01.000 And it did.
00:35:03.000 But now, if it's trash and it's just full of repeating stuff and false history and AI swarm bots, what's the next thing?
00:35:12.000 Like if.
00:35:14.000 What's next?
00:35:15.000 Self replicating internets. 0.82
00:35:16.000 You need to be self replicating internets.
00:35:18.000 The biggest corporations in the world, biggest companies are about to form.
00:35:21.000 But how does that work for people's lives?
00:35:21.000 Like Amazon, big companies.
00:35:23.000 Like, I guess what I'm thinking of is how does that work for people's lives, right?
00:35:23.000 How does that work?
00:35:27.000 When we were kids, we hung out at malls or whatever. 0.88
00:35:29.000 At least I did because I was a dork.
00:35:30.000 But whatever, you know, Orange Julius, you hang out at the mall, you do whatever, you'd go for bike rides.
00:35:36.000 My son, like, he hangs out with his friends online a lot and they'll, like, play games and whatever and talk and I think watch movies together online.
00:35:45.000 That experience is huge.
00:35:46.000 So, what's the next thing?
00:35:48.000 That experience you're describing that your son has, like he's still engaging in a social interaction.
00:35:55.000 Yes.
00:35:56.000 Whereas basically, the internet is the third space where they hang out.
00:36:00.000 Like the games are the third space.
00:36:02.000 And the social networks where you see all the bots, et cetera, stuff like that, where you get fed that kind of information, that's a different animal, right?
00:36:11.000 Like when you're playing video games with your friends, when you get on Discord and you talk to your friends and you all boot up social.
00:36:16.000 Yeah, it's a social thing.
00:36:17.000 When you're sitting there doom scrolling, that's an individual thing.
00:36:21.000 Right.
00:36:22.000 And so, what's next?
00:36:24.000 Well, I think that there's always going to be some amount of social aspect, actually, social aspect, where you're dealing with real people.
00:36:34.000 I mean, I suppose it's possible that there could be AI that would imitate real people, but I think that the interaction between people is still going to be kind of predominant that way.
00:36:46.000 But as for watching content or entertainment, I think that that's largely going to be something that is done.
00:36:52.000 You know, using AI generated by AI and stuff.
00:36:55.000 I don't think that there's going to be another space because the kind of scenario you talked about or the evolution, it didn't really become everybody on the internet until everyone had it on their phone in their pocket.
00:37:07.000 Right.
00:37:08.000 So, like 2010 ish.
00:37:09.000 Yeah.
00:37:09.000 Cause you, I mean, I was, you know, I was there when the internet started and I would go into like Metal Maniacs web board and we'd talk on the message boards and I would go on 4chan, I would go on, you know, lamgoat.com, all these metal and hardcore band stuff.
00:37:25.000 Um, but it didn't become a thing where everybody was on until it was in your pocket and it could vibrate to let you know that you had a notification or what have you until it became like a hit of dopamine, yeah.
00:37:38.000 You know, so I don't know that that's ever going to be replaced or that's going to stop the whole social aspect.
00:37:45.000 Um, so I don't know that there is a next thing.
00:37:49.000 I do think the interface, there's always a next thing, yeah.
00:37:52.000 Brain to brain interface that'll be the next enhancement, like Neuralink, yeah.
00:37:57.000 Neuralink, but not for fixing.
00:37:58.000 But that's still going to be the same thing, though, because it's still going to be in quote unquote cyberspace.
00:38:04.000 Even if it was like Neuralink, where you were, because that's just the interface with the internet.
00:38:09.000 Neural link peer to peer.
00:38:10.000 Even, well, I mean, that's still using some form of interface.
00:38:15.000 Do you think that would be good for romantic relationships or bad?
00:38:18.000 Not at all.
00:38:19.000 Oh, I think it'd be great.
00:38:20.000 I think it'd be so bad.
00:38:21.000 Really?
00:38:21.000 Horrible.
00:38:22.000 If you start with it, there's nowhere to go.
00:38:24.000 But pure honesty.
00:38:25.000 Yeah, but.
00:38:26.000 That's a good thing.
00:38:27.000 Pure honesty is not a great thing.
00:38:29.000 It's a great thing.
00:38:29.000 I mean, you'd have to deal with the way the human mind works.
00:38:32.000 You'd have to really just deal with it. 1.00
00:38:34.000 That's how women think. 1.00
00:38:35.000 Women could not deal with it. 1.00
00:38:38.000 Men could not deal with it. 0.86
00:38:39.000 No, I'm not.
00:38:40.000 Listen, listen, listen.
00:38:41.000 Nobody could deal with it.
00:38:42.000 I've been.
00:38:42.000 Some people could fall off to deal with it.
00:38:45.000 Listen.
00:38:45.000 How many men have had their girlfriend say, Do I look good in this?
00:38:50.000 And they say, Yeah, you look great because they don't care.
00:38:53.000 Not because they think they look bad, right?
00:38:55.000 They just don't care. 1.00
00:38:57.000 Women would, if women knew what men think, they would be like, He doesn't care about me because all the things that matter to them are irrelevant to the guy. 0.98
00:39:05.000 The guy says, Yes, it looks good because I know you like. 0.91
00:39:08.000 No, like, look at what women apparently are thinking.
00:39:09.000 They're thinking child murderers should go free. 0.99
00:39:12.000 No, I've told my wife, you look terrible in capris and high waisted pants.
00:39:15.000 Please don't.
00:39:16.000 I mean, I think that's fair.
00:39:17.000 I think everyone looks bad in capris and high waisted pants.
00:39:20.000 This is, I mean, you can be honest.
00:39:21.000 And part of the reason why I say women is because women want men to care about things that they don't care about, right?
00:39:28.000 Like, they really do.
00:39:30.000 And so men are like, all right, I care about it because you care about it.
00:39:33.000 Which is a good enough reason to care about it.
00:39:35.000 Yes, but that's not good enough for some women or a lot of women. 0.97
00:39:39.000 They actually want, like, if it's like, I don't care, but whatever you want to do is fine. 1.00
00:39:42.000 That will upset people.
00:39:44.000 Also, I think that people want empathy. 0.85
00:39:46.000 Like, I think the female maybe wants the man to feel what they're feeling in the moment. 0.72
00:39:49.000 And that could be a gate that you could turn on and off with a neural net.
00:39:52.000 Like, if I'm sitting here and my girlfriend's netted in and I feel her every second, and now she's stressed and I'm starting to feel stressed because she's in the other room stressing out, like, I don't want that.
00:40:00.000 Why'd you turn it off anyway?
00:40:02.000 Why do you hate my emotions?
00:40:03.000 Don't you want to feel what I'm feeling?
00:40:05.000 What are you hiding?
00:40:05.000 Yeah.
00:40:07.000 That sounds terrible.
00:40:08.000 Everything about this sounds like a horrible situation.
00:40:10.000 Like, you have to have the privacy of your own.
00:40:14.000 Thoughts, yes, I think privacy of your own thoughts is huge and feelings are part of thoughts.
00:40:20.000 I don't know, man.
00:40:21.000 It's kind of like you don't want anyone to see you naked until everyone sees you naked, and then you're like, I don't care if anyone sees me naked, but what if it's all the time because it gets exhausted?
00:40:27.000 You have to have the privacy of your own thoughts.
00:40:29.000 Human beings, I think it would be exhausting to be seen naked constantly.
00:40:32.000 Human beings, it would be a bit much.
00:40:33.000 I've done theater, and like once I go naked, it's like it never bothered.
00:40:37.000 Or that guy in the dressing room.
00:40:39.000 Well, I wouldn't showboat at the gym.
00:40:42.000 Oh, yeah, holding a towel out here once you realize that.
00:40:45.000 People seeing you naked is not that big of a deal.
00:40:47.000 Once an app of human beings.
00:40:48.000 It's like all the dance majors.
00:40:49.000 All the dance majors will walk around naked until it's out of Chuck E. Cheese and then they'll have problems.
00:40:54.000 People have intrusive thoughts, things that they don't mean to think of.
00:40:59.000 Everyone knows what an intrusive thought is.
00:41:00.000 They're like, and like, so like you're sharing thoughts and you have an intrusive thought and then your significant other goes, Yeah, but hypothetically, your significant other will know it was an intrusive thought and not yours.
00:41:10.000 I mean, even still, it's intrusive thoughts.
00:41:12.000 It's like a thought.
00:41:12.000 Like you need, human beings need the privacy of their own health.
00:41:16.000 I spend a lot of time.
00:41:18.000 People spend a lot of time trying to curate the perception others have of them.
00:41:23.000 I mean, the three faces, right?
00:41:24.000 Yeah.
00:41:25.000 Everyone heard of this?
00:41:25.000 The three faces?
00:41:26.000 So the Japanese say that there's the face you wear for everyone outside, there's the face you wear to yourself, and then there's your real face.
00:41:37.000 Because everybody is on some level, even if they're either lying to themselves. 0.94
00:41:40.000 Everything's a little bit performative.
00:41:42.000 You're either lying to, you're somehow lying to the people around you or trying to put up a face of how you want people to.
00:41:42.000 Yeah.
00:41:50.000 To perceive you.
00:41:51.000 Maybe you're overly nice.
00:41:53.000 Maybe you're overly, you know, at work, you're very serious and stern.
00:41:58.000 When you're at home, you're different.
00:42:01.000 And then there's the face that you put on for yourself, the person that you want to be, that you strive to be, that you think you strive to be.
00:42:08.000 And then there's the real you, which is generally the one where it's like, yeah, you know what?
00:42:13.000 I think these bad thoughts, or I can't help myself but eat the ice cream, or whatever, you know, whatever short.
00:42:18.000 Send into post secret.
00:42:20.000 Yeah, you know?
00:42:21.000 But that's the animal.
00:42:21.000 The animal.
00:42:22.000 The animal.
00:42:23.000 Like, everyone has to have the ability to be able to say, these are my thoughts, and they're no one else's.
00:42:30.000 Yeah, there's like a LinkedIn version of you and a Reddit version of you.
00:42:33.000 Yeah, right?
00:42:34.000 And the 4chan version of you.
00:42:35.000 Exactly.
00:42:36.000 The fun guy.
00:42:37.000 You should definitely always maintain a human right.
00:42:39.000 To your own private thoughts.
00:42:40.000 But if you wanted to interface, I think it could work.
00:42:43.000 I don't think it could work at all.
00:42:44.000 I think it would be so terrible.
00:42:46.000 It'd be horrible.
00:42:46.000 Black Mirror did an episode on this, actually.
00:42:48.000 Yeah.
00:42:49.000 With a little dot on the heads, and they shared thoughts with the couples, and it was just absolutely terrible.
00:42:53.000 Let's get to politics, my friends.
00:42:55.000 Maybe we'll come back to this later on.
00:42:56.000 We've got this story from Axios.
00:42:58.000 Hassan Piker on the Axios show says, America worse than Al Qaeda, pound for pound.
00:43:04.000 But what did the man actually say?
00:43:06.000 Well, you can listen to it yourself.
00:43:08.000 He once said that America is the top dog in terrorism.
00:43:12.000 Yes.
00:43:13.000 Do you think America then is worse than Al Qaeda? 0.75
00:43:16.000 Pound for pound, as far as the number of deaths, yes, we have caused tremendous terror all around the world. 0.68
00:43:24.000 I think that that is not only terror that we are waging on regular civilians in nations in the periphery, but it's also having consequences on ourselves.
00:43:35.000 It's having dramatic consequences on the home front. 0.59
00:43:39.000 One clear example of this is what we did in Menop, right?
00:43:43.000 There's no distinction between blowing up a school.
00:43:45.000 Triple tapping it with Tomahawk missiles.
00:43:48.000 If you're killing 140 schoolgirls, that is an act of terror.
00:43:51.000 This doesn't mean that all Americans are terrorists, but the reality of the matter is we have to create an environment of accountability to ensure things like that never happen again.
00:44:02.000 He once said that.
00:44:04.000 So, what say you, panel?
00:44:06.000 Well, my first question is how, Hassan?
00:44:08.000 Because I understand the rallying cry of we can never be evil again.
00:44:11.000 He said we blow up a school.
00:44:11.000 Not to what he meant.
00:44:12.000 Military collateral damage can't ever happen again.
00:44:14.000 Give me the plan.
00:44:15.000 That's all I want to hear.
00:44:16.000 You said it can't happen.
00:44:17.000 Now tell me how it can't happen.
00:44:18.000 I put it like this.
00:44:20.000 I don't take seriously a man who praises the most prolific genocidal maniac in the history of humanity, Mao Zedong.
00:44:27.000 That guy killed an estimated 80 million people. 0.63
00:44:30.000 And so if Hassan's like, well, America's killing and terrorizing people, it's like, oh, I believe that you actually care. 0.83
00:44:37.000 I think he's on, you know, you're tapping into the military industrial complex kind of took over and went rogue after World War II, the Soviet Union fell. 0.80
00:44:46.000 They're like, now we want to control the world with military. 0.73
00:44:48.000 I get it.
00:44:49.000 There is a distinction.
00:44:51.000 Between a terrorist engaged in terrorism and a nation state engaged in military action.
00:45:00.000 Hold on.
00:45:01.000 Terrorists, by definition, target civilians intentionally, right?
00:45:07.000 So, the example that Hassan brought up, right, the U.S. allegedly hit a school or whatever. 0.97
00:45:14.000 It looks like we did do that.
00:45:16.000 Looks like we did.
00:45:16.000 What?
00:45:17.000 Yeah.
00:45:17.000 So, the U.S. struck a school that was not intending to kill the children.
00:45:24.000 That was not the US saying.
00:45:25.000 Does it matter?
00:45:26.000 Yes.
00:45:26.000 Yes.
00:45:26.000 I just specifically laid out.
00:45:27.000 Who does it matter to?
00:45:28.000 I just laid out.
00:45:29.000 It doesn't matter to the kids, but it does matter to who's watching.
00:45:32.000 Hold on.
00:45:32.000 I just said George Washington was a terrorist.
00:45:35.000 I get your point.
00:45:36.000 No.
00:45:37.000 King George said he is a terrorist.
00:45:37.000 He was.
00:45:38.000 Stop.
00:45:39.000 Listen to me.
00:45:39.000 No, he didn't.
00:45:40.000 He called him a terrorist.
00:45:41.000 The word terrorist did not exist.
00:45:42.000 What did he call him?
00:45:43.000 You're changing the context here.
00:45:44.000 Come on, bro.
00:45:45.000 Yes, because I laid out the.
00:45:46.000 You said it's about intent.
00:45:47.000 How do you know their intent?
00:45:48.000 No, I laid out the definition targeting.
00:45:51.000 Now, how do you know they weren't targeting it?
00:45:53.000 Well, do you believe the United States targeted the school?
00:45:56.000 I think they target civilians frequently.
00:45:57.000 You believe they targeted the school?
00:45:59.000 I don't know.
00:46:00.000 I don't know.
00:46:01.000 I don't believe that they did.
00:46:02.000 I can't tell you that they didn't.
00:46:03.000 Well, okay.
00:46:04.000 So, well, hold on.
00:46:06.000 Why would they?
00:46:08.000 That instilled horror and fear in the civilian population.
00:46:10.000 To terrorize.
00:46:12.000 I don't believe that the U.S. intentionally targeted the school, although I do think we took it.
00:46:15.000 Why did Genghis Khan do that? 0.68
00:46:17.000 It was reported that it was right near some active military targets at a certain point.
00:46:22.000 But I think that Piker is obviously wrong when he says that pound for pound, a terrorist group that undertakes the massacre of civilians is worse than the United States.
00:46:33.000 We just happen to be in power, so everybody hates us, especially people who live here.
00:46:38.000 You know what I mean? 0.91
00:46:39.000 Especially people who live here and have an ideology that conflicts with American ideology.
00:46:44.000 Well, the reason why he doesn't consider Mao to be a bad guy is because it's okay to kill your own citizens.
00:46:51.000 That's really the difference.
00:46:52.000 I mean, the way he thinks about America is we deserve what we get and we should get more of it.
00:46:57.000 Tim, you are right.
00:46:58.000 George did not call George Washington a terrorist, he called him a traitor and a rebel.
00:47:01.000 Because the word terrorist came from the French Revolution well after the fact.
00:47:05.000 But he alluded to George Washington being the bad guy.
00:47:08.000 Yeah, but like I said, like that's why I laid out the terminology specifically before I started talking about it.
00:47:14.000 The term terrorist means you target civilians intending to get the political change you want.
00:47:21.000 Intending to go after civilians.
00:47:23.000 9-11 was a terrorist attack because they flew into the buildings which had civilians in them.
00:47:29.000 So what happens is one party is super powerful.
00:47:32.000 They don't need to target civilians because they can blow up your military bases with tomahawk missiles.
00:47:36.000 The other party is so weak that they have no choice but to target the civilianry because that's the only soft target.
00:47:41.000 That's just making excuses for terrorists.
00:47:43.000 That's why we call these little rebellion groups because they have no, they can't hit our military bases.
00:47:48.000 They can't go after our military targets.
00:47:49.000 So they go after the U.S.? 0.79
00:47:51.000 No, because we consider Hezbollah terrorists and we consider the Houthis terrorists.
00:47:54.000 And the Houthis are an actual capable, they call them a militia, but they're a capable military. 0.71
00:47:59.000 Look what they just did to Saudi Arabia. 0.66
00:48:01.000 They're funded.
00:48:02.000 But they have serious military hardware, but they're considered terrorists because they target civilians for the purpose of political change.
00:48:11.000 Considered terrorists by who?
00:48:13.000 Okay, I got to pause you again.
00:48:16.000 Winners or the losers?
00:48:17.000 No, Just stop.
00:48:17.000 Just stop.
00:48:19.000 Here's the definition terror in political context is to motivate political change through fear.
00:48:28.000 Terrorism is when a group or individual targets civilians, not military targets, for the purpose of forcing a political change within that system.
00:48:39.000 So, what if I targeted a non-civilian target, but civilians died two weeks later?
00:48:44.000 Collateral damage is a definition for that.
00:48:45.000 And they would not call that terrorism.
00:48:47.000 They would not.
00:48:47.000 Because I didn't target them.
00:48:48.000 I wanted them to die, I just didn't target them.
00:48:51.000 Ian, words have meanings. 0.95
00:48:54.000 When the U.S. goes to war with Iran and is launching missiles at a bunch of targets, one of those targets ends up being a school.
00:49:03.000 There are questions.
00:49:04.000 What would the purpose or benefit be to targeting civilians?
00:49:07.000 Is that typical?
00:49:08.000 The answer is typically no, although it's fair to investigate, and we'd like those answers.
00:49:14.000 I certainly would.
00:49:15.000 But it is not terrorism when you're at war, it's called collateral damage.
00:49:20.000 You can argue there is an ulterior motive we should investigate because maybe it is terrorism.
00:49:24.000 Agreed. 0.98
00:49:25.000 There is a good argument that Barack Obama killed Abdul Rahman al-Alaki to send a message to jihadis: we will murder your children. 0.94
00:49:33.000 Because there's no reason for Obama to order that strike. 0.56
00:49:36.000 They said it was a mistake.
00:49:37.000 We are targeting the wrong guy.
00:49:38.000 We're not at war with Yemen.
00:49:40.000 They bombed a civilian restaurant in the country we are not at war with.
00:49:43.000 So there's an argument there. 0.90
00:49:45.000 Al-Qaeda are terrorists.
00:49:47.000 Why?
00:49:48.000 They do not go after military targets for the most part.
00:49:52.000 To them, they say, hey, how about we knock down two skyscrapers and kill 3,000 people, causing massive untold economic damage and long standing health problems for the people in America?
00:50:03.000 That way, the people there will beg their leaders to change.
00:50:08.000 Whereas the United States says, we're going to, it would be like this.
00:50:11.000 There's a guy in front of you with a gun and he's shooting at you.
00:50:15.000 You can choose to stop the guy with the gun. 0.68
00:50:17.000 Al Qaeda says, I'm going to aim for his kid.
00:50:19.000 His kid's over there. 1.00
00:50:20.000 I'm going to start shooting at him. 0.99
00:50:21.000 We call those in comic books and movies the bad guys. 0.97
00:50:25.000 Well, if the guy with the gun shooting at you is behind a heavily fortified position, you can't hit him. 0.99
00:50:30.000 So you shoot his kid.
00:50:30.000 But his kid is available and you can make him stop shooting you if you take his kid.
00:50:34.000 You better believe that kid's a target.
00:50:36.000 And we're talking about the definition of terrorism.
00:50:37.000 The guy shooting at you, how is that terrorism to defend yourself by using his child?
00:50:41.000 Terrorism is shooting the child who is not an enemy of the family.
00:50:44.000 If you're being shot at by some guy and his kid is now on the battlefield, that kid is.
00:50:50.000 Well, I said over there.
00:50:52.000 Okay, whatever.
00:50:52.000 The kid now, the assailant's child is available.
00:50:55.000 You're kidding me?
00:50:56.000 You're not going to take the kid as a hostage.
00:50:57.000 Have you ever asked yourself if you're the bad guy?
00:50:59.000 Yes.
00:51:00.000 You are.
00:51:01.000 In some situations.
00:51:02.000 In American culture, this is a common trope in TV shows and movies.
00:51:07.000 We believe.
00:51:09.000 That when the guy targets the innocent civilian to get their way, they're the villain.
00:51:14.000 Like when Green Goblin kidnaps a school bus of children to stop Spider Man, that's villainy.
00:51:20.000 Yeah, but I understand the nuances of war that if you're fighting from a losing position.
00:51:23.000 Goblin wanted to win.
00:51:24.000 What?
00:51:25.000 Goblin was in a losing position.
00:51:26.000 He wasn't.
00:51:27.000 Osborne was going to lose his company.
00:51:28.000 He had no choice.
00:51:29.000 If he didn't kill the board, everything he worked for for 40 years was being sold.
00:51:34.000 And they said it's unanimous you're out. 0.98
00:51:36.000 Okay, you're talking about superhero psychopath.
00:51:39.000 I agree. 0.75
00:51:40.000 I agree.
00:51:40.000 I agree.
00:51:40.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:51:41.000 Big Goblin is a psychopathic villain. 0.90
00:51:43.000 Why? 0.99
00:51:43.000 Because he was out of his mind, wanted to kill people to take the money. 0.99
00:51:46.000 No, So, the story? 0.61
00:51:46.000 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. 0.61
00:51:47.000 It wasn't a military action.
00:51:49.000 The story of Norman Osborne in Spider Man 1 is that Norman had led the company to success.
00:51:55.000 And he says, Our profits are up.
00:51:58.000 It's never been better.
00:51:59.000 Our projects are underway, but under budget and ahead of schedule.
00:52:03.000 And the board members all say, And for that reason, we voted to sell.
00:52:07.000 But the company that's buying agrees, you can't come.
00:52:11.000 You're out, Norman.
00:52:12.000 And he says, What are you talking about?
00:52:14.000 This is my company.
00:52:15.000 Do you have any idea what I've sacrificed?
00:52:17.000 He had one choice.
00:52:19.000 He was facing the theft of his life's work for 40 years. 1.00
00:52:24.000 So he decided to kill them. 1.00
00:52:25.000 No, that's where you go, psychopath. 0.99
00:52:27.000 And that doesn't happen in reality. 0.97
00:52:28.000 Like James O'Keefe.
00:52:29.000 No, James O'Keefe did not turn on the board of directors of Project Veritas when they kicked him out.
00:52:33.000 So here's the point.
00:52:34.000 OMG.
00:52:34.000 The point is, when you are being shot at, for whatever reason, it's a conflict, it's war, right?
00:52:41.000 So you say, The only way I'll win is to kill civilians. 0.99
00:52:44.000 You're the bad guy. 0.99
00:52:45.000 Dude, no one's the good guy in war.
00:52:47.000 There are good guys in war. 0.80
00:52:48.000 I mean, you're fighting for a cause that might be just, but doesn't make you good to kill the people or their kids.
00:52:53.000 Sometimes it does.
00:52:55.000 It's a vague term, good and bad.
00:52:56.000 I mean, you've got to.
00:52:57.000 It's not.
00:52:58.000 Is killing good?
00:53:00.000 It can be.
00:53:00.000 Sometimes it can be.
00:53:01.000 Is terrorism good?
00:53:03.000 No.
00:53:03.000 Can be.
00:53:04.000 Thank you, Tim.
00:53:05.000 Terrorism can be good.
00:53:06.000 The good guy can be a terrorist.
00:53:08.000 I don't think that's right.
00:53:10.000 I don't believe it's fair to say that we can draw absolutes in every circumstance.
00:53:15.000 Only a Sith deals in anti-Terrorism.
00:53:17.000 This is why I'm nuanced.
00:53:19.000 Terrorism is an action designed to terrorize, right?
00:53:23.000 Of course.
00:53:24.000 Terror.
00:53:25.000 But no, no.
00:53:26.000 A house gets blown up next door.
00:53:28.000 You're not terrified?
00:53:29.000 What?
00:53:29.000 The city doesn't shut down?
00:53:31.000 It's not designed to terrify.
00:53:34.000 I don't understand that design.
00:53:36.000 How can you fathom what the design was meant to be?
00:53:40.000 Like the Birmingham church bombing, right?
00:53:42.000 Like going back to that. 0.99
00:53:43.000 That was designed to terrify the black community in Birmingham.
00:53:47.000 What if you're like inside Gilead in like the Handmaid's Tale and then you do a terror act there?
00:53:54.000 Would that be good terrorism?
00:53:55.000 I don't know.
00:53:57.000 That reminds me of in Brazil when the guy's being interviewed, the general, they say the bombing campaign is now in its 17th year.
00:54:06.000 And the general says, begin as luck.
00:54:10.000 The way the US has carried out all of the combat actions that it's done since the beginning of the GWAT, right?
00:54:21.000 If the Taliban had turned over Osama bin Laden, the US wouldn't have gone in and taken over and taken the Taliban out. 0.56
00:54:28.000 Now, whether they could or not, I don't know, but that was the deal. 0.86
00:54:31.000 The U.S. said, look, you've got Tilden X to turn him over.
00:54:34.000 If not, we're coming to get him. 0.98
00:54:35.000 Same thing with Iraq 1. 0.99
00:54:37.000 Now, I think Iraq 1, or I'm sorry, Iraq 2. 0.99
00:54:39.000 But Iraq, we shouldn't have gone into Iraq.
00:54:40.000 I'm not making justification, but they specifically said, look, if Saddam Hussein and Uday and Qusay, Hussein, turn themselves in, we won't invade.
00:54:51.000 They didn't.
00:54:52.000 We did.
00:54:53.000 That's not what terrorists do.
00:54:55.000 No, America doesn't have to use terrorists. 0.65
00:54:57.000 They have obliterative sky power.
00:55:01.000 It well, by your earlier argument, the fact that they used obliterative sky power to blow up a school that was terrorist, it's nuanced.
00:55:08.000 The term terrorist didn't even exist, like you said, until the French Revolution.
00:55:11.000 And after 9 11, boy, did the media start using that word.
00:55:14.000 It didn't exist in the 90s.
00:55:15.000 People didn't talk about terrorism, absolutely, it did.
00:55:17.000 Very vague.
00:55:19.000 No, no, no, because it did.
00:55:22.000 The rhetoric of what they use that word to scare you, make you think it's a specific type of guy from the Middle East, it's crazy.
00:55:28.000 That's not true.
00:55:29.000 We had a bombing of the World Trade Center in 93.
00:55:32.000 Yeah, I remember that.
00:55:33.000 Terrorism was in the news.
00:55:35.000 All the time.
00:55:35.000 No, no, not compared to after 9 11.
00:55:37.000 I didn't say compared to after.
00:55:38.000 You said all the time.
00:55:39.000 No, no, it was all the time.
00:55:41.000 After 9 11, it was hyperbolically all the time.
00:55:41.000 It was relatively.
00:55:44.000 And before that, they didn't use the word before that. 0.67
00:55:46.000 They certainly did.
00:55:48.000 No one talked about being afraid of terrorists. 0.94
00:55:49.000 It was the Soviets. 0.96
00:55:50.000 That was all they cared about. 0.69
00:55:51.000 You are wrong.
00:55:52.000 You are wrong.
00:55:54.000 After 9 11, every. 0.58
00:55:56.000 So did we.
00:55:57.000 After 9 11, the principal news cycle subject was terrorism.
00:56:01.000 Before 9 11, it was not.
00:56:04.000 But on the news, terrorism was talked about.
00:56:06.000 All the time because there were terrorists bombing military bases because the World Trade Center was bombed.
00:56:12.000 Because a guy bombed a federal building.
00:56:12.000 Wait a minute.
00:56:14.000 Terrorists can't blow up military bases because they're not civilian targets.
00:56:17.000 That's not correct.
00:56:18.000 You're not a terrorist if it's a military target.
00:56:20.000 They can be.
00:56:21.000 Once a terrorist, always a terrorist?
00:56:23.000 Ian, you're playing weird games.
00:56:25.000 So are you.
00:56:26.000 No, I'm not.
00:56:27.000 If you attack a military base, you're not a terrorist.
00:56:29.000 That's not correct.
00:56:30.000 It's a military target.
00:56:31.000 That's not correct.
00:56:32.000 A military base could be non combatant, it could be medical, it could have a commissary, it could be an outpost for women and children.
00:56:39.000 They're all military. 0.98
00:56:41.000 Oh, so like baby settlers, right? 0.82
00:56:43.000 If they're on the military base with the military, they're military targets.
00:56:46.000 That's the exact same argument that Hassan made when he said that babies can be settlers too.
00:56:51.000 Baby settlers.
00:56:52.000 Let me explain that. 0.95
00:56:52.000 Okay. 0.95
00:56:52.000 So he was talking about the settlers in the West Bank, in Judea and Samaria, right? 0.95
00:56:58.000 He's talking about how there are Israelis that are making settlements.
00:57:02.000 And Ethan Klein was saying, well, you know, there are kids that they're attacking.
00:57:06.000 And he's like, well, you know, if they're using military action, talking about like the whatever the organization, I think it was Hamas, but it might not have been Hamas.
00:57:15.000 But he's talking about if they're using military action, they're using it against settlers.
00:57:18.000 He's like, well, they're killing kids.
00:57:19.000 And he's like, well, yeah, you know, kids can be, babies can be settlers.
00:57:22.000 I mean, babies can be settlers.
00:57:22.000 They're killing babies.
00:57:24.000 Look at the 1760s in the United States. 0.93
00:57:26.000 It was families with their kids. 0.97
00:57:27.000 They'd go out west and then they'd get attacked by Indians and they'd all get killed by the Indians. 0.93
00:57:32.000 Were the Indians terrorists? 0.96
00:57:34.000 Some might call them that. 0.97
00:57:35.000 Why are they targeting our children?
00:57:36.000 But then.
00:57:38.000 That has the term back.
00:57:38.000 So you're saying that.
00:57:39.000 So you're saying baby settlers, if you're a baby and you're a settler, if you're the baby, right?
00:57:45.000 Your parents are Jewish settlers in the West Bank. 0.99
00:57:49.000 They're legitimate targets for the Palestinians to attack. 1.00
00:57:52.000 To attack. 1.00
00:57:53.000 I would say if your family takes you when you're 13 years old to a foreign land to settle and then you get killed, that's part of the. 1.00
00:58:00.000 That's expected. 0.59
00:58:02.000 But you're dodging my question.
00:58:04.000 Are you a legitimate target?
00:58:06.000 Yeah, their parents made them targets by bringing them to the border. 0.94
00:58:08.000 So you're saying that the terrorists, the Palestinians, that's a legitimate target to target the base.
00:58:14.000 It's not legitimate.
00:58:15.000 What does that mean?
00:58:16.000 What is the word legitimate?
00:58:17.000 De facto target?
00:58:18.000 No, not de facto.
00:58:20.000 By military law and what's proper and prudent.
00:58:22.000 It means militarily acceptable. 0.97
00:58:25.000 What the fuck does that mean? 0.97
00:58:27.000 What do we do in Nagasaki? 0.99
00:58:27.000 Bull up half the world. 0.99
00:58:28.000 Was that militarily acceptable?
00:58:30.000 You just dance around these answers that you're trying to act like it's not legitimate.
00:58:33.000 You're really angry.
00:58:35.000 Legitimate means legitimate primarily means lawful, valid, or in accordance with established rules and standards.
00:58:40.000 Well, there are no rules in war.
00:58:42.000 There are.
00:58:42.000 We tried to make the Geneva Convention.
00:58:44.000 Good luck getting anyone to do it.
00:58:46.000 You're just dancing around the top, the thing big.
00:58:48.000 I think I nailed it.
00:58:50.000 No, I know you think that.
00:58:52.000 What is it that you disagree with?
00:58:53.000 You're in your own universe right now making semantic angered arguments.
00:58:56.000 There are three claims that were.
00:58:57.000 Good.
00:58:58.000 I disagree.
00:58:58.000 What do you disagree with?
00:58:59.000 All right.
00:58:59.000 What's your first claim?
00:59:01.000 What's your first claim?
00:59:02.000 That there's a nuance in who's a terrorist.
00:59:05.000 The U.S. could be considered terrorist from the other guy.
00:59:07.000 The other guy could be considered terrorist from the U.S.
00:59:08.000 I think that's not debatable.
00:59:10.000 That is not debatable.
00:59:12.000 Terrorism is a specific term that references targeting people for the purpose of terrifying them so they change their political structure.
00:59:21.000 Yeah.
00:59:22.000 So, like the economic.
00:59:23.000 So, you're either doing that or you're not.
00:59:25.000 Like the economic hitman model.
00:59:26.000 Are you going after a leader?
00:59:27.000 We're going to bribe you if you don't do what you're doing.
00:59:29.000 The purpose of that is not terror.
00:59:31.000 You're terrorizing the leader if you're doing that.
00:59:32.000 That's not so.
00:59:33.000 There is a so going to a country and saying, We're going to negotiate with you.
00:59:39.000 Here's what we're looking for, not terror.
00:59:41.000 And then, like, if you don't do it, then you are outside accordance of the global order, and we will fight you, not terror.
00:59:50.000 That is terror.
00:59:51.000 If you go to a targeting their political structures is called soft power.
00:59:55.000 Terror would be blowing up their schools intentionally or their refineries.
00:59:59.000 So they bend their knee.
01:00:00.000 Oil refineries, that's resource.
01:00:02.000 Come on, the whole population is infrastructure.
01:00:04.000 It's infrastructure.
01:00:05.000 I know.
01:00:06.000 Ian, let me ask you a question.
01:00:07.000 Do you understand the distinction made in the definition?
01:00:10.000 Yeah, you're saying if you specifically target civilians.
01:00:13.000 Not necessarily.
01:00:14.000 What's the difference?
01:00:15.000 You're trying to terrify a population into changing their political structure.
01:00:20.000 Yeah.
01:00:21.000 So that is the core of what terrorism is.
01:00:25.000 Okay.
01:00:26.000 So that is an academic shared definition.
01:00:30.000 If you'd like to use another word for something else, you are allowed that.
01:00:33.000 That's using soft power to get.
01:00:35.000 Or to terrorize a population?
01:00:36.000 No.
01:00:37.000 Soft power is when you use USAID to fund activist organizations so they foment their own change.
01:00:42.000 So, do you need to use weapons to instill terror?
01:00:45.000 Could you do it with propaganda?
01:00:45.000 No.
01:00:45.000 Okay.
01:00:48.000 If the propaganda is used towards making them fear death or destruction.
01:00:53.000 I think America is very good at terrorizing the world in ways that they don't want to.
01:00:56.000 Well, we did it with COVID for sure.
01:00:58.000 So, then just say you are desperately trying to take these words. 0.89
01:01:01.000 Just say you agree with Hassan then.
01:01:03.000 Well, just say, I mean, that.
01:01:06.000 Well, you just weigh who wants to the conversation.
01:01:08.000 I would have to have them here to debate them.
01:01:10.000 I don't think we're terrorists.
01:01:11.000 I don't think our nation is a terrorist nation.
01:01:14.000 Well, it's not so black and white. 0.68
01:01:15.000 It is.
01:01:16.000 Countries can do a terrorist act and then never do it again.
01:01:19.000 Ian, I have a question for you.
01:01:21.000 If you eat human meat, are you a cannibal? 0.93
01:01:24.000 While you're eating the meat, you sure are.
01:01:26.000 Just, no, but after the fact, are you a cannibal?
01:01:27.000 Depends on how long after. 0.94
01:01:29.000 I think you're probably a cannibal.
01:01:31.000 Forever? 0.98
01:01:31.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:01:32.000 I think so too.
01:01:33.000 Yeah.
01:01:34.000 Yeah, I would agree with that.
01:01:35.000 That is, if you engage in the intentional act of eating a human being, you're a cannibal.
01:01:39.000 If you stole. 0.94
01:01:41.000 MMs when you were nine, are you a thief for life?
01:01:43.000 Yes. 0.97
01:01:44.000 Yes.
01:01:44.000 Adam?
01:01:45.000 When you're 70 years old, it's fair to still call you a thief. 0.64
01:01:48.000 Try him as an adult, lock him up.
01:01:50.000 Solitary confinement.
01:01:51.000 Steals from stores, like in real time. 1.00
01:01:53.000 Maybe sinner is a better word.
01:01:54.000 Okay, well, no, I'm saying thief.
01:01:55.000 It's the legal term that you said you did it once, and now are you forever now that term?
01:01:59.000 The Bible would say yes.
01:02:00.000 Do you believe that? 0.89
01:02:01.000 Yes.
01:02:02.000 So you call, if a kid stole when he was six, you would call him a thief when he's 60 years old.
01:02:06.000 You'd say he's a thief?
01:02:07.000 He committed an act of thievery.
01:02:09.000 I think that's insanity, dude.
01:02:11.000 Like, no, I'm sorry, dude.
01:02:12.000 What if he, like, went to confinement? 0.99
01:02:13.000 You're an addict, you're always an addict. 0.85
01:02:15.000 So, wait, so, hold on. 1.00
01:02:17.000 So, hold on.
01:02:18.000 Wait, wait, okay, okay.
01:02:18.000 Ian, Ian, Ian.
01:02:20.000 So, you're saying after a certain amount of time, the action you have taken, you no longer qualify as that act.
01:02:25.000 If you don't do it ever again, if you don't do it again, that's not really who you are.
01:02:28.000 If a 20 year old man rapes a woman when he's 60 years old, is he a rapist?
01:02:33.000 One woman, one time when he was 20.
01:02:35.000 Exactly.
01:02:36.000 I don't know. 0.89
01:02:36.000 Is he a rapist? 0.89
01:02:37.000 It depends on the situation.
01:02:38.000 Well, you just said no to him.
01:02:39.000 He might be an advocate for women and has spent 40 years of his life advocating for the protection of women after that.
01:02:44.000 Would you still call him a rapist when he's like the most advocate for women?
01:02:48.000 Yes. 0.91
01:02:49.000 I mean, if he raped, and plus, I think that. 0.99
01:02:52.000 You know, if you could probably call him a rapist. 0.82
01:02:54.000 The other thing, too, is there's a long statute of limitations on those things.
01:02:57.000 I mean, he could still be tried way later.
01:02:59.000 Look what they did to Bill Cosby.
01:03:00.000 I like raper better.
01:03:02.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:03:02.000 Raper? 1.00
01:03:03.000 Because rapist sounds like you've studied it academically. 0.99
01:03:07.000 That would be a bad thing. 0.56
01:03:08.000 I think like a pianist. 1.00
01:03:09.000 I think like a rapist. 0.99
01:03:10.000 I've been practicing my whole life. 0.97
01:03:11.000 But like, we don't say murderous. 0.99
01:03:12.000 Probably as in gender studies, I bet you could become a raper, an academic rapist. 0.96
01:03:18.000 The guy in college wants to experience something new while he's there. 0.99
01:03:22.000 You know, ah.
01:03:23.000 Violinist. 0.96
01:03:24.000 Hypothetically speaking. 0.97
01:03:25.000 Like, rapist implies it's like a skilled practice, you know what I mean? 0.62
01:03:28.000 Where, like, we say murderer.
01:03:30.000 We don't say murderist.
01:03:31.000 We say murderess also.
01:03:31.000 You know what I mean?
01:03:33.000 Murderess. 1.00
01:03:33.000 That's one of the things that you have the double, the gendered. 1.00
01:03:37.000 I'm going so hard because forgiveness, like, you have to, I think it's a part of our evolution as we make mistakes and ask for forgiveness. 1.00
01:03:45.000 I think it's fair to say the degree to which someone remains a thing is relevant to the moral weight of thing.
01:03:50.000 What if you kill somebody?
01:03:52.000 Are you a killer? 0.99
01:03:53.000 Yes, always. 1.00
01:03:54.000 I think you're always a killer. 1.00
01:03:55.000 Or if you. 1.00
01:03:56.000 Molested a child, I think you remain a child molester. 0.98
01:03:59.000 You bullied a kid when you were nine, or you bully for the rest of your life? 1.00
01:04:02.000 Yes, you are.
01:04:02.000 I think you're probably.
01:04:03.000 I know people who used to be bullied.
01:04:05.000 But I definitely would say that once a sinner, always a sinner, and that's all of us, and we should probably.
01:04:09.000 But again, it depends on the moral weight.
01:04:11.000 Stealing a bag of chips, I don't think it's fair to call someone a thief for life because when they were six years old, they were a thief for life.
01:04:16.000 There's no argument.
01:04:17.000 And if you've been a thief.
01:04:18.000 If your country committed terrorism in the 60s, doesn't mean you live in a terrorist nation. 0.97
01:04:22.000 You're rehabilitated thief.
01:04:23.000 But the issue is that with our government, we have a rotating system of power.
01:04:27.000 I don't look at the United States as a single perpetual state.
01:04:27.000 So.
01:04:32.000 So when Hassan says something like America is worse, well, it's not fair to put the moral weight of our fathers on us, the sins of the father.
01:04:40.000 No, I don't agree with that.
01:04:42.000 The current state of the United States, especially over the past 20 years, has not been a terrorist state, though there have been some things that I find questionable, namely with Barack Obama.
01:04:53.000 I would argue right now that typically what the U.S. is doing has been overly restrained.
01:04:58.000 Unfortunately, I think so too.
01:05:00.000 What I mean by that is not that I'm a fan of the war or that we should be in Iran or anything like that, but when Houthi rebels bomb a bunch of cargo ships, we sit here debating. 0.54
01:05:09.000 You know, we're like, oh, you know, they're blowing up international trade and American companies, but we can't do anything about it.
01:05:14.000 That's pretty crazy.
01:05:15.000 I would say also that it is fair to say, no matter what you think about the United States and what we've, you know, various wars we've undertaken that were bad ideas and where people were killed, et cetera, et cetera.
01:05:27.000 I think probably we have helped more than we have hurt.
01:05:32.000 This world.
01:05:32.000 I think we have done far more good for the global status than anything else and more than any other country.
01:05:42.000 I mean, if you look at history, in the history of all time, human beings, and forever, and after us is the British Empire, you know, which was also spectacular and did really amazing and great things, you know, like, for example, ending slavery, you know, that was a pretty useful thing that they did.
01:06:00.000 But what America's done in terms of how we've used our soft power, masses and masses of money to prevent AIDS worldwide, to, you know, lift people out of poverty, I mean, fossil fuels and the prevalence of fossil fuels.
01:06:15.000 Did more to eradicate global poverty, which is not entirely eradicated, but did more to help that cause than anything else in the world.
01:06:26.000 And we beat ourselves up for it.
01:06:28.000 I mean, China's not doing a great job with their fossil fuels to end poverty and that kind of stuff.
01:06:35.000 That's something that we did.
01:06:36.000 They're not doing that.
01:06:37.000 We've done more for so many different places.
01:06:40.000 We've done more for Africa.
01:06:41.000 There's all these crazy things too that are happening in the world.
01:06:44.000 And when Trump came in and started saying we're going to end this aid to different places, You had some leaders in Africa.
01:06:51.000 I think it was one of the former presidents of Kenya saying, Yeah, we should figure out how to do things on our own.
01:06:57.000 We've relied on them for too long. 0.80
01:06:59.000 Could you imagine if, like, you know, Al Qaeda has just done so much for us, you know?
01:07:08.000 Oh, I'm just, yeah, because Al Qaeda does one thing they bomb civilians.
01:07:12.000 They do bomb military targets, but they bomb civilians.
01:07:14.000 They kill civilians because their attitude is it's easier to force our enemy to heal by aiming at their children.
01:07:21.000 And that's also part of what jihad is.
01:07:23.000 That's in the Quran. 0.96
01:07:24.000 That's part of that whole method. 0.95
01:07:27.000 Do you guys know how many civilians George Washington's army killed?
01:07:31.000 I'm literally asking.
01:07:31.000 I don't know.
01:07:32.000 No, we didn't.
01:07:34.000 George Washington's army didn't kill a ton of civilians because they were fighting the Redcoats and they weren't going after loyalists other than in the papers. 0.59
01:07:43.000 Okay.
01:07:44.000 I don't know for sure.
01:07:45.000 Were they willing?
01:07:46.000 Did they just slaughter?
01:07:47.000 I would say just enough because we won. 0.89
01:07:49.000 USA.
01:07:50.000 I mean, George Washington's army was not going around killing.
01:07:50.000 Yeah.
01:07:55.000 They were pretty much fighting the Redcoats, and there weren't a lot of British civilians around. 0.83
01:07:59.000 There were loyalists.
01:08:02.000 No confirmed records historically of Washington's army killing civilians.
01:08:05.000 Whenever the number is zero, I get a little weird.
01:08:07.000 I know Sherman.
01:08:08.000 Not really. 0.83
01:08:09.000 It makes a lot of sense because the American Revolution was a reaction to regulars marching on cities.
01:08:14.000 And it was fought here.
01:08:15.000 And killing locals would have been a bad move for George anyway.
01:08:18.000 Well, the locals were mostly on his side.
01:08:21.000 So they were giving him salvation, harbor, and support.
01:08:27.000 Okay, sorry to interrupt. 0.89
01:08:28.000 I think we're going to another hot ass story.
01:08:30.000 Well, let's talk about this from we got the CalShee prediction market. 0.58
01:08:34.000 The Democrat sweep has risen to 58%.
01:08:38.000 And for some reason, it's all purple.
01:08:40.000 I don't know why they did that.
01:08:41.000 But the Democrat House Republican Senate is only at 31%.
01:08:44.000 Republican sweeps at 11% somehow.
01:08:47.000 And our Republican House Democrat Senate is at 1.2% because that makes no sense.
01:08:50.000 I was saying this in the springtime.
01:08:51.000 It's like if the economy is good, the Republicans can.
01:08:55.000 And if the economy is bad, the Republicans cannot.
01:08:58.000 Okay, we've got a diesel shortage.
01:09:00.000 Diesel at six bucks, twenty cents.
01:09:05.000 You got a gas shortage, a global gas shortage for diesel.
01:09:10.000 You've got gas stations running out of diesel in the United States.
01:09:13.000 Gasoline, regular old petrol is, I think, 430.
01:09:17.000 And the Fed just raised interest rates and they said they're going to raise interest rates again.
01:09:23.000 Republicans are cooked.
01:09:24.000 It's over.
01:09:26.000 Oh, and by the way, you know, after thinking about it, I just realized, you know, the Democrats were right the whole time.
01:09:32.000 And I love Joe Biden, and I was always a Democrat.
01:09:36.000 Look, like I said, I've been thinking about AOC a lot lately.
01:09:39.000 You know, I just, it just came to me in a dream.
01:09:39.000 I know, isn't she great?
01:09:42.000 And now I completely agree with everything they've ever said.
01:09:45.000 This sounds just like what John Cornyn and Massey are saying.
01:09:48.000 I totally realized it too. 1.00
01:09:49.000 Orange men is bad. 1.00
01:09:50.000 Well, this is, it's kind of, look, I mean, most people who vote don't really know why they're voting. 0.99
01:09:56.000 They just know they vote one mammal over the other, like they always have.
01:09:59.000 It's, you know, it's just down ballot.
01:10:01.000 But getting people to show up to vote, it's always about the economy.
01:10:05.000 Every single time.
01:10:05.000 Yeah.
01:10:06.000 It's how does my life look day to day?
01:10:08.000 And people vote.
01:10:09.000 People vote.
01:10:11.000 And it turns out when you print out that much money over a couple of years during COVID, there's going to be a very, very long term effect of that.
01:10:11.000 Yeah.
01:10:11.000 Yeah.
01:10:18.000 I think that we put a lot of band aids on it for a very long time.
01:10:22.000 And there's no more wound care to be had.
01:10:24.000 We just have to go through this.
01:10:26.000 But I don't think it should be, I don't think it should be yours not to show up because we've seen what happens when Democrats are in power.
01:10:32.000 And if you think that they're going to come back and just be like, ah, we learned our lesson, we'll scale it back.
01:10:37.000 And Dami was just elected in New York City as a socialist.
01:10:41.000 They're going to, and the right is very, very, very angry with the Trump administration.
01:10:46.000 Obviously, the war is unpopular.
01:10:50.000 The cost of everything, like the prices, the wages have not caught up to the price increase from inflation.
01:10:57.000 Most people don't even think of it like that.
01:10:59.000 They just think, man, I can't afford anything.
01:11:01.000 Yep.
01:11:02.000 You know, I can't pay my bills.
01:11:04.000 I'm living paycheck to paycheck.
01:11:05.000 I'm deciding which bills I pay this month as opposed to the next month.
01:11:08.000 You know, they're falling further and further behind.
01:11:10.000 And when you've got too many people in the population that are experiencing that, While there's a war going on that they were vocally against, you're not going to get people out to say, Yes, we're going to go ahead and give you more time at the helm.
01:11:28.000 The problem is voting for the other party or voting for Democrats isn't going to fix anything.
01:11:35.000 It's not going to change the Republicans at all because you're going to end up with, you know, you'll have Republicans lose seats, you'll have possibly lose the Senate, and then it's just going to be stalling everything that Trump wants to do, even if it's good.
01:11:49.000 Even if it could produce some positive results for people, Democrats aren't going to let him because they want him to suffer for two years and they don't care if the American people suffer.
01:11:57.000 They'll have the American people suffer so that way, coming the presidential election, the Democrats are in a better position to win.
01:12:04.000 So it's just either way, it's bad news for the American people.
01:12:08.000 Yep.
01:12:08.000 Because the Republicans don't have an immediate fix and the Democrats are going to do everything they can to draw this pain out for another two years so that way they're in a better position to win.
01:12:17.000 Oh, they're going to kneecap for sure.
01:12:18.000 I mean, it's, but look, I mean, we are in a time of famine and anyone who's been watching this for any amount of time, We knew it was coming.
01:12:24.000 This is this.
01:12:25.000 We were never avoiding this.
01:12:26.000 We were always going to have to go through this.
01:12:27.000 There has to be a market reset for the housing.
01:12:30.000 Like, it has to happen. 0.53
01:12:31.000 Like, the boomers have to lose a little bit of money.
01:12:33.000 I'm sorry. 1.00
01:12:34.000 We need crashes.
01:12:34.000 It has to happen.
01:12:35.000 We need resets.
01:12:36.000 And until we just rip that bandit off and say, hey, we got to go through it and buckle up and just, you know, bear down and start cutting things back, like cancel your Netflix, you know, stop getting Grubhub.
01:12:45.000 You don't need $8 burritos.
01:12:47.000 And people do.
01:12:47.000 Yeah.
01:12:48.000 You can get a $3 burrito at Taco Bell.
01:12:52.000 Taco Bell is delicious, even though it's bad for you.
01:12:54.000 The reset.
01:12:55.000 The term reset.
01:12:56.000 That's not proven, Phil.
01:12:57.000 You can't say that.
01:12:58.000 An economic reset.
01:12:59.000 I don't think we've seen one ever in the modern era.
01:13:03.000 I think there was.
01:13:03.000 We got 2008.
01:13:04.000 It wasn't a literal reset.
01:13:06.000 Like an economic reset is like a complete, like total.
01:13:09.000 It would have been.
01:13:11.000 It happened in ancient Greece once.
01:13:12.000 It would have been a reset if they actually didn't do quantitative easing for a decade afterwards.
01:13:17.000 Yes.
01:13:18.000 Then we wouldn't actually be in the situation we're in here now.
01:13:21.000 Right, right.
01:13:22.000 But they just, you know, the answer to 2008 was print money.
01:13:27.000 And give it away for 10 years.
01:13:29.000 And then COVID happened, and the answer was print money.
01:13:32.000 I checked, I asked AI, is Taco Bell bad for you?
01:13:34.000 And Grok says no, not if you order simply and don't make it a daily habit.
01:13:39.000 It mentions most burrito bowls, crunch wraps land at around 1,000 to 1,500 milligrams each.
01:13:44.000 That's the biggest health at your blood pressure.
01:13:47.000 However, what's reasonably fine is their crunchy taco, their cantina chicken bowls, their bean burritos.
01:13:52.000 You know, I think tonight I will live Moss.
01:13:56.000 I like the idea of Taco Bell being classified as health food.
01:13:59.000 This is very, very good.
01:14:01.000 Ian's going to argue that we got.
01:14:02.000 What is the ball?
01:14:03.000 Your RFK is going to.
01:14:04.000 Is it a taco sandwich?
01:14:04.000 What is a taco?
01:14:05.000 What are you talking about?
01:14:06.000 Flour or corn?
01:14:07.000 I mean, what kind of oils were you using?
01:14:09.000 Regarding monetary resets, there have been a few in the last hundred years.
01:14:13.000 One of them was in Germany in 1923 when they were experiencing hyperinflation, which destroyed their German mark.
01:14:18.000 The government introduced the Rentenmark in 1923, taking control of it, wiping out and replacing old currency.
01:14:24.000 God knows what happened to the populace.
01:14:27.000 And then right before World War II ended, this is post World War II Bretton Woods, 1944, the giant world economies.
01:14:33.000 This is when Germany was about to surrender.
01:14:36.000 And Mel Kay came on and talked about this.
01:14:38.000 Right before the Germans surrendered World War II, the American bankers went into Germany and just.
01:14:42.000 Got the German bankers to sell the entire country out to the world economic order they were building.
01:14:47.000 So that was the last real currency reset we've seen.
01:14:50.000 And they tied the money to the American dollar at that point, which was itself pegged to gold at that period.
01:14:58.000 So we haven't seen anything really since Argentina went through something in the 1980s to the 2000s, but a global reset, if you're going to talk about the American economy having a reset, it would be the global economy.
01:15:09.000 I think that would be like a distribution of wealth to the top.
01:15:12.000 Because I already see that that's about to happen with AI.
01:15:14.000 Like, there's going to be, like, even more than we saw during COVID.
01:15:17.000 Yeah.
01:15:18.000 Like, that was a wealth distribution to the top.
01:15:20.000 More millionaires were made during that time.
01:15:21.000 Yeah.
01:15:22.000 Like, historically, you don't hear about what happened in 1811 when 60% of the population went off to war, 50% of the population died, and the rest of them made a bunch of became rich.
01:15:33.000 And now we're the descendants of those, like, upward mobility rich people.
01:15:38.000 And then no one thinks about it because it was 150 years ago.
01:15:40.000 So, like, I could see.
01:15:43.000 A really big disparity of wealth, or people are like, Look, I have my robot security guards, don't touch me.
01:15:49.000 What are you like?
01:15:50.000 Don't touch me with those hands.
01:15:51.000 You haven't washed in a week, you obviously don't have access to water.
01:15:55.000 Drones popping people off if they try and get in your personal space like crazy.
01:15:58.000 Where some people are connected to it, some are.
01:16:00.000 I'm not even mentioning this happening on the street down Charlestown, like in 2027, 2032, when people are like tied into the web.
01:16:09.000 There's gonna be this upward mobility of power and wealth to the very small few people that can control it.
01:16:15.000 And that might synergize with an economic reset as well.
01:16:19.000 Because if we're really moving away from a monetary system into a currency system where you just got to move stuff around and have enough electricity to force the propulsion.
01:16:30.000 Look, I've had this question a million times.
01:16:34.000 With the rollout of the latest models, I think we're months away from HR, it's gone, data entry gone.
01:16:43.000 What does, and I don't want to rehash the AI thing over and over again.
01:16:47.000 My question is, You know, when coal miners lost their jobs, the left said learn to code.
01:16:52.000 Yeah, coding's not a job anymore.
01:16:54.000 No, it's gone.
01:16:55.000 So, where does it go?
01:16:56.000 You got a 40 year old guy.
01:16:58.000 For 20 years, he's worked in the automotive industry.
01:17:03.000 And one day, a new system rolls out that completely automates his job.
01:17:09.000 This guy then says, okay, there's no coding jobs.
01:17:12.000 The only thing I really know how to do is work in automotive, but it's been fully automated.
01:17:16.000 What does that man do now that his two children are hungry?
01:17:19.000 And he has no way of getting meaningful employment.
01:17:22.000 Now, it's a hard working blue collar guy, never been on welfare, worked every day he could, and now he's like, How am I supposed to make money?
01:17:31.000 Well, they come and they say, You can work at fast food.
01:17:35.000 Those jobs are still around a little bit.
01:17:37.000 And he goes, I was making $40 an hour.
01:17:39.000 That's a $20 an hour job.
01:17:40.000 I can't feed my kids off that. 0.99
01:17:42.000 What do these people do? 1.00
01:17:43.000 UBI, obviously.
01:17:45.000 That's the Andrew Yang.
01:17:46.000 The problem is, as we've discussed, there is no mathematical equation to give people more value than value is produced.
01:17:54.000 So if we reduce the cost of producing a product, let's just do real hypothetical, simple numbers.
01:18:04.000 It takes 10.
01:18:05.000 You know, calories to produce a widget.
01:18:08.000 A new technology is introduced, and now it requires one calorie to produce the widget.
01:18:12.000 That means the widgets aren't worth as much.
01:18:14.000 They're not worth as much.
01:18:15.000 And that means that you are not going to generate 10% of the value, economic value.
01:18:22.000 So, where would you get the money for the UBI in the first place?
01:18:25.000 Now, the individual doesn't need as much money to buy a widget, but the widgets are largely luxury items.
01:18:25.000 Right.
01:18:32.000 So now he's like, well, I can afford the luxury item, but.
01:18:36.000 The amount of value required for a person to purchase.
01:18:40.000 So now he goes and says, okay, look, the widgets are cheaper, I'll buy it.
01:18:43.000 Here's the problem that factory now says we make substantially less than we used to because people are too poor to afford our product.
01:18:51.000 So we can't pay taxes at a high enough rate to pay a UBI.
01:18:55.000 Right.
01:18:56.000 There's no way to take people who don't produce any value, reduce the value of jobs, have them be able to buy something of a reduced value.
01:19:08.000 And then take a portion of that reduced value to government and give a portion to the person.
01:19:12.000 The equation doesn't make sense.
01:19:15.000 UBI cannot work.
01:19:16.000 You have to reduce the quality of life and the quality of products that you're giving those people.
01:19:20.000 That's it.
01:19:21.000 But it's a deflationary spiral.
01:19:23.000 Oh, I know.
01:19:24.000 Even if you reduce the value, it can only keep going down.
01:19:27.000 Oh, I know.
01:19:27.000 I'm saying that's where it's heading.
01:19:30.000 Until ultimately there is no standard of life at all.
01:19:32.000 And we've actually seen a lot of devaluing of our standard of life in the past several years.
01:19:36.000 This is something that people talk about.
01:19:38.000 Hotel quality has gone down substantially.
01:19:41.000 Even now, as prices are going up at hotels, like it's like, you know, the Holiday Inn suddenly is $600 a night, which doesn't make any sense.
01:19:49.000 You see the value, the quality of mid range restaurants going down substantially because all of these mid range restaurants, Fridays and Chili's and Applebee's and all the rest, they're buying all the same products.
01:20:01.000 It's in the smallest things.
01:20:02.000 Cisco, Tide Pods.
01:20:04.000 Have you seen Tide Pods go to the XL size now?
01:20:07.000 You used to get a Tide Pod thing, it was like $62 for like $20, Tide Pods.
01:20:11.000 Now they've taken it.
01:20:12.000 They said, no, now they're XL size.
01:20:14.000 You get half the amount of.
01:20:15.000 You get less of them now.
01:20:16.000 It's in all of the small things of your life.
01:20:18.000 Yeah.
01:20:19.000 All the things.
01:20:20.000 Everything gets.
01:20:20.000 It's like rinkflation, they call it.
01:20:22.000 If it costs a dollar to buy a Tide Pod and you take 15% of that dollar for UBI and now one guy is getting 15 cents, he still doesn't have the dollar to buy the Tide Pod.
01:20:32.000 The math for UBI just does not add up.
01:20:35.000 And then the issue is people say, well, AOC strategy is deficit spending.
01:20:40.000 Just give them money through printing money and then you create hyperinflation. 0.99
01:20:45.000 She's also okay with shoplifting, though. 0.98
01:20:47.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:20:48.000 I think in history, one of the solutions to alien economies is you send the lower class to war to get them killed and to maybe get territory out of it and money and riches. 0.99
01:20:58.000 But you got like they would just get rid of their population. 0.94
01:21:01.000 I don't know if people openly talk about that, but that seems like what the tactic was looking at what they would create a super virus.
01:21:07.000 AI weapons.
01:21:09.000 If 20% of your laborers have no job to be done, listen.
01:21:16.000 If I was a proprietor of chickens and 20% of my chickens stopped laying eggs, what do we do with those chickens? 0.96
01:21:23.000 Got to eat them or kill them and get rid of them.
01:21:26.000 You eat them. 0.99
01:21:26.000 They're not broilers or layers, but if they're not laying, you don't just keep them around for no reason. 0.99
01:21:31.000 You can also feed them to the dogs or the pigs.
01:21:33.000 You know what I mean?
01:21:34.000 Think about what the powers that be, the ultra wealthy elites, the super PACs, the World Economic Forum, are thinking about all of you.
01:21:41.000 They're not saying they're going, I lament the blue collar 45 year old man who lost his job through no fault of his own.
01:21:48.000 They're not saying that.
01:21:49.000 They're saying, Yeah, we got to worry about that guy.
01:21:51.000 He's going to throw a brick at us.
01:21:53.000 So what can we do?
01:21:54.000 We can blast him with social media videos to make him think someone else is the problem.
01:21:59.000 He'll probably just go around complaining about Israel the whole time instead of complaining about the structures of the American system.
01:22:04.000 Well, the CEO of UHC was murdered, assassinated.
01:22:09.000 I mean, there's a reason the MADE system exists in Canada.
01:22:09.000 Yeah.
01:22:13.000 Anytime you see the social welfare programs do this exponentially, I mean, they have to start killing people. 1.00
01:22:18.000 You got to get rid of the non producers. 0.88
01:22:19.000 They killed a two year old in the Netherlands with euthanasia, and he wasn't terminally ill. 1.00
01:22:24.000 He was just disabled.
01:22:25.000 He was just born disabled.
01:22:27.000 You had Joe Biden come in with all of these, for all these blue collar workers, and say that they were going to implement a bunch of training programs. 0.97
01:22:34.000 And the training programs never had any people in them, even the ones that were implemented.
01:22:40.000 It is a problem when you look at this.
01:22:42.000 And I think for the most part, what you're talking about, this hypothetical blue collar guy, we have a population of people who can be innovative and can come up with new things to do.
01:22:54.000 But you're not going to take a dude who spent his whole life building cars and say, learn to code.
01:22:59.000 No.
01:23:00.000 But I mean, I guess what I'm saying is a metaphor.
01:23:02.000 You're not going to go to a guy who spent 20 years as a specialist who says, look, I'm a mid level guy, I make $80,000 a year.
01:23:09.000 Like, well, you're not going to learn.
01:23:10.000 You're never going to be as good. 0.98
01:23:12.000 First of all, the white collar jobs are gone. 1.00
01:23:14.000 You'll never learn to code. 1.00
01:23:14.000 Right. 1.00
01:23:16.000 But now, where you're really good is being automated.
01:23:20.000 So you can go do low skill labor where you get paid half as much.
01:23:23.000 And you say, no, how am I supposed to feed my children?
01:23:26.000 Well, you know, you already see the technology.
01:23:28.000 You already see it now happening.
01:23:29.000 I mean, go to a restaurant.
01:23:32.000 What are the age of the people who are waiting on tables?
01:23:34.000 I've noticed that when I was a kid, it used to be like, you know, 18 to 25 teenage entry level jobs.
01:23:40.000 We're talking about middle.
01:23:42.000 Well, that's because nobody is now. 1.00
01:23:45.000 This is, I mean, it's already happening.
01:23:47.000 It's already here.
01:23:48.000 It's pretty wild.
01:23:49.000 There's no young people anywhere.
01:23:52.000 You know, when you just go out, it's like, and I don't mean obviously none, but the density of young people.
01:23:57.000 When I was a kid, I'd go to Denny's and the whole Denny's was full of 18, 20 year olds.
01:24:00.000 That's, yeah, same.
01:24:01.000 Now it's 50.
01:24:02.000 You'd get the eggs over Miami.
01:24:04.000 Yeah.
01:24:04.000 That's where we would hang out.
01:24:05.000 It'd be like, hey, you guys want to meet up?
01:24:06.000 Let's go to Denny's.
01:24:07.000 And you just sit there.
01:24:08.000 We would do Eaton Park.
01:24:09.000 That's it?
01:24:10.000 You go to Denny's?
01:24:11.000 We did Eaton Park.
01:24:11.000 We didn't do Denny's.
01:24:12.000 It was open after midnight.
01:24:14.000 We also had, I think it was called Huck Finn's.
01:24:17.000 Huck Finn's Donuts in Chicago.
01:24:18.000 You'd meet up with the homies at Eaton Park at 1 a.m., you know, on a Saturday night and hang out till 2 30 in the morning drinking Pepsi. 0.96
01:24:25.000 Oh, gosh. 0.69
01:24:26.000 The show would get done at like, you know, 11 o'clock.
01:24:30.000 Everyone would go from the venue to Denny's and stay till like 3 or 4 in the morning.
01:24:33.000 Or when I was working at the mall, people would get out of work at 10 30 or whatever, go to Denny's and stay till 1 2 in the morning.
01:24:38.000 Yeah, we'd go to the, in Philly, we'd go to the truck and like, you know, go to a show or whatever.
01:24:43.000 And then there's like, it was right near Chinatown.
01:24:45.000 So then you'd go get some dumplings.
01:24:48.000 That was good.
01:24:49.000 You know, people like that late night.
01:24:50.000 Dude, I go, I like the amount of young people is just so few and far between.
01:24:56.000 I went to a car shop at the mall, and there was like a big Pokemon thing.
01:25:03.000 And I'm like, 70% of the people were late 30s.
01:25:07.000 And I'm like, ah, there's just watching some movie last night, and they're like, look at the all star cast 77 year old, 72 year old, 84, Michael Caine.
01:25:16.000 It was like all these, like, People that were really famous 20 years ago, and they're still the big actors.
01:25:21.000 You know what?
01:25:21.000 I wonder.
01:25:22.000 I wonder if one of the components of, I don't want to say civil war, but I just mean like internal strife, conflict, escalation of crime, is a lack of a monoculture.
01:25:35.000 Obviously, we talk about a lack of a monoculture a lot, but I don't mean morally.
01:25:39.000 I mean just artistically.
01:25:40.000 Like everybody knows who Bill Maher is, whether you watch him or not.
01:25:44.000 Everybody knows Joe Rogan.
01:25:46.000 But the next generation of political commentary will never, as what I said to Bill, I said, there will never be another Bill Maher.
01:25:53.000 You entered this space when there were limited channels.
01:25:59.000 So Bill Maher was the political comedian guy on all these networks.
01:26:03.000 He's been on HBO for 25 years or whatever.
01:26:06.000 However, the current, like if this technology and these trends continue, because I do think they're trying to bring this back, but I said at current rate, there is not a single political commentator who has the gravitas of Bill Maher.
01:26:20.000 I'm not saying he's right about everything.
01:26:22.000 I'm saying Bill Maher goes on his show and he says something like, You know, I think this bad thing about you know, this group of people, news outlets write it all up because everybody's heard the name Bill Maher, so it gets clicks.
01:26:36.000 I wonder what happens to a site because you mentioned Michael Caine, right?
01:26:41.000 Uh, even what like Robert Downey Jr. is what, how old is he?
01:26:43.000 Is late 50s or something?
01:26:45.000 Might be 60, yeah, at least.
01:26:47.000 I'll find out.
01:26:47.000 So, what happens?
01:26:49.000 Look, actually, here's a good example they brought him back to Marvel, they were like, We got to bring all of them back.
01:26:55.000 Chris, you've got Tom Holland and Zendaya.
01:26:59.000 Donnie Jr. is 61, by the way.
01:27:01.000 61.
01:27:01.000 It's true.
01:27:02.000 I'm not saying there's no one.
01:27:03.000 I'm saying it's breaking apart.
01:27:04.000 Yes.
01:27:04.000 So, what happens in 20 years when it's like a movie comes out and it's AI generated with no one knows who it is?
01:27:10.000 17 people watch it and there's no shared artistic vision.
01:27:13.000 I think it's going to become more about what's being said and less about who's saying it.
01:27:18.000 Although people will use, like, Tom Cruise, age 44, as their hero in the movie they use AI to generate in 2036 when everyone's creating their own media.
01:27:28.000 It almost doesn't really matter who's saying it if it gets said, you know, like with any kind of wisdom.
01:27:35.000 It doesn't really matter.
01:27:36.000 And like the whole ego of like, oh, we're going to name this scientific theory after the guy that invented it.
01:27:40.000 Like, it's why, you know?
01:27:44.000 I'm actually fine with not having the super important role models that we had through Hollywood and music industry, all these things, no offense.
01:27:52.000 I'm taking Netflix has kind of done this thing the past decade where they have dozens of shows that come out every week, and it's all kind of like, you've never heard of these actors, but they're cheap to make.
01:28:02.000 He's at work with everyone's startup.
01:28:04.000 So we're already getting to that process of like, I don't even have to know who the actor is to enjoy a show.
01:28:08.000 I'm okay with going in that direction also.
01:28:10.000 Because the thing about going to see a guy, if I want to see Robert Downey Jr., I know he's good.
01:28:14.000 So what he does is going to be good.
01:28:16.000 I know that I'm going to get some good work.
01:28:18.000 You can still get good work from non Robert Downey Jr.'s, you know?
01:28:20.000 Well, it's going to be all AI.
01:28:22.000 Well, he's good because he's been promoted so much, right?
01:28:23.000 It also is a marketing thing.
01:28:25.000 Do people want to watch all AI stuff?
01:28:29.000 I can't.
01:28:30.000 I can't take it.
01:28:31.000 Oh, he is, but like, it's the rocket.
01:28:32.000 But you guys got to understand this.
01:28:34.000 Little kids are going to grow up and they're going to be like, what do you mean?
01:28:37.000 Like, how many people here lament the loss of the eight track?
01:28:41.000 I don't.
01:28:41.000 Every day.
01:28:42.000 Oh, yeah.
01:28:42.000 Yeah.
01:28:43.000 You know, nobody gets pulled.
01:28:44.000 Or for that matter, the CD.
01:28:46.000 How many people are sad we don't use CDs anymore?
01:28:48.000 I was embarrassed for the CDs.
01:28:49.000 CDs were a major part of our life and we're over it.
01:28:51.000 We just, times change.
01:28:52.000 I just went to go find an old CD because I realized that there were like only 2,000 printed and I had one.
01:28:58.000 I still buy vinyls.
01:29:00.000 Yeah.
01:29:01.000 Vinyls are like art, you know?
01:29:05.000 So I can respect that for sure.
01:29:07.000 My point ultimately is.
01:29:09.000 No one's crying and being like these dang fangled MP3s, you know?
01:29:13.000 Like, we don't even use MP3s anymore.
01:29:14.000 It's streaming services. 0.98
01:29:15.000 So, when this stuff starts rolling out and movies are AI, no one's going to go, ah, some old people will, but it won't matter because young people are going to be like, I'll tell you this right now. 0.75
01:29:24.000 I guarantee you the Marvel movie that's coming out, Doomsday, it's probably got AI in it already. 0.94
01:29:29.000 You're not going to notice.
01:29:30.000 I've seen some stuff, like, I'm pretty sure Spider Man had AI generated imagery in it.
01:29:35.000 Look, if you go to a studio and say you can spend $20,000 on this 32nd bit or $15, what do you think they're going to pick?
01:29:42.000 Again, I'm actually very excited about it.
01:29:44.000 I don't want, I think we've kind of gotten away from like, Find me a video game.
01:29:49.000 Find me a musician, the whole Ed Sheeran thing.
01:29:51.000 Find me a Hollywood star that doesn't just spew out talking points from the left.
01:29:55.000 I'm excited about the possibility of new people coming to the market who can make their own movies, video games, and music that don't have a message for you.
01:30:04.000 There's actual suspension and belief from the world that exists outside of it.
01:30:09.000 I think music is over.
01:30:10.000 I think Suno is the future of music.
01:30:12.000 Use it all the time.
01:30:14.000 I meet more and more people every day who are like, oh, you know, I just started.
01:30:19.000 Making the music that I like.
01:30:21.000 And the reason is if you grew up in the 90s, there's a like if you were like a teenager or early 20s in the 90s, you're probably going to really like grunge and alternative rock.
01:30:31.000 You'll probably keep dressing as though you're in Blind Melon with long, crazy blonde hair and sing acoustic rock songs as if you're a grunge rock artist. 0.98
01:30:40.000 Cheap ass loser living in the past. 0.99
01:30:42.000 But it's because that's what you like. 0.99
01:30:44.000 So notice this listen to the music playing anywhere and you'll know what demographic they're targeting.
01:30:50.000 So, if you go to a bar and they're playing, you know, Guns N' Roses, I guarantee you look around, you're going to see a bunch of Gen Xers.
01:31:01.000 Or alternative rock and all that stuff.
01:31:02.000 And if they're playing pop punk, it's going to be a bunch of millennials.
01:31:05.000 You know, they're playing the music for the crowd that comes because it's the music that they like.
01:31:09.000 But I was going to say, when.
01:31:13.000 So, what do they play for the Gen Z?
01:31:14.000 Well, so what's happening now is I like alternative rock, I like indie.
01:31:21.000 You know, when I was in my early 20s, there was a lot of indie rock stuff.
01:31:24.000 So I was a little kid.
01:31:25.000 I liked that 90s punk rock and 90s alternative and grunge.
01:31:29.000 But I was hanging out with all of my friends, partying, and it was largely like indie rock stuff.
01:31:36.000 So I can go on Suno and I can make indie rock music because I want new indie rock music and it's not coming anymore.
01:31:43.000 I go on Pandora or Spotify or whatever and it's like, it's okay, but it's not vibing.
01:31:48.000 So I can just go make my own.
01:31:50.000 One of my favorite bands, their lead singer got kicked out.
01:31:50.000 Yeah, same thing.
01:31:54.000 And I lamented this because it's my favorite band, but I can have Suno.
01:31:57.000 It took me about a week to find the right prompt to emulate his voice, and now I have brand new albums every week.
01:32:02.000 I'm not as concerned about.
01:32:04.000 Went over there.
01:32:05.000 Yes.
01:32:07.000 About losing the value.
01:32:11.000 Like, I think that it's actually the art itself is going to get better because people are going to be able to use AI to train and to get better and better and better.
01:32:17.000 But the cohesion is what.
01:32:19.000 What's the definition of better?
01:32:21.000 Better hooks, more cohesion.
01:32:23.000 What does better mean?
01:32:24.000 New harmonies that have never been heard before that please the brain, you know?
01:32:28.000 How could they never be heard before if it's just an accumulation of everything that already exists?
01:32:33.000 I wouldn't say better.
01:32:34.000 I want to say a return to the things that I actually want to hear and listen to, right?
01:32:38.000 The slot that's coming out from Marvel, the last 20 movies they've made, have been terrible.
01:32:41.000 The reason why they're bringing Rob Dunn to your back, I think that what we can actually have is products that people actually want to use again.
01:32:47.000 I mean, I'm sure everyone's heard about the Wolverine game that came out.
01:32:50.000 Oh, man.
01:32:51.000 Yeah, people are not terrible.
01:32:52.000 This is like they've taken over the last bastions of my release from this world where I can go play something, zone out for a few hours, and just get away from a message.
01:33:02.000 They take that too.
01:33:03.000 But now we can have an opportunity to come in, write new video games, and bring us something I actually want to be a part of.
01:33:09.000 Let's actually talk about this.
01:33:10.000 This is a big story.
01:33:11.000 So, Wolverine came out.
01:33:12.000 It's the new game with one of the most iconic Marvel characters ever.
01:33:18.000 And everybody hates it for a variety of reasons.
01:33:21.000 They're calling it the game that plays itself.
01:33:24.000 So, in the game, there is a blue streak that tells you where to go so you don't have to actually try and solve puzzles.
01:33:31.000 There are QuickTime events where he's flying through the air and it's like quick press X to make him slash.
01:33:36.000 And if you don't, it doesn't matter you in any way.
01:33:38.000 The infamous motorcycle scene where players are holding their controllers up and filling themselves.
01:33:43.000 Because he succeeds even if they don't press a single button.
01:33:47.000 On top of that, it's woke.
01:33:49.000 Yes. 1.00
01:33:50.000 I guess Sabretooth is gay and wants to bang Wolverine, and Mystique is also gay. 1.00
01:33:53.000 They're banging each other, yes. 1.00
01:33:55.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:33:56.000 Okay.
01:33:56.000 So everybody's like, it's woke, it's boring, it's not a game.
01:34:00.000 It is lowest common denominator content.
01:34:02.000 This is the future.
01:34:04.000 They're basically saying we're not going to target the 10% of Americans who are diehard gamers who want to challenge. 1.00
01:34:11.000 We're going to target the 40% of Americans who are real stupid and couldn't figure it out but like Wolverine. 1.00
01:34:18.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:34:19.000 So now what makes the game industry work, the passion, the culture, the drive is gone.
01:34:26.000 And they're basically making a kindergarten abacus, press the button one time for the largest market share they can get.
01:34:35.000 They spent $305 million making this game.
01:34:38.000 $305 million.
01:34:40.000 $305 million on a game that you can't do bad at.
01:34:44.000 It's not even a game at that point.
01:34:45.000 My game is done.
01:34:47.000 That game I've been working on?
01:34:48.000 One of the eye opening scenarios that has you, the bullets are coming at you, and there was a streamer playing it, and he's trying to go off into the woods because, you know, if bullets are coming at you, the natural thing is, I want to get away from these things.
01:34:59.000 If you even veer off course, it will kill you.
01:35:01.000 You have to take the path they selected you.
01:35:03.000 So they've watered down, like, any type of critical thinking you might actually want to play in the game. 0.93
01:35:08.000 It's ridiculous.
01:35:09.000 I know it's just a video game, but it's what I'm saying is, it's in everything.
01:35:13.000 And I think AI is going to present an opportunity for independent people to come in and make things that people actually want to play again and see again.
01:35:13.000 It's in everything.
01:35:20.000 And maybe that'll help the culture.
01:35:21.000 I'm going to tell you, look.
01:35:23.000 So, about on Saturday, I started working on this game.
01:35:26.000 It's called Red's Descent and it is at MVP already.
01:35:31.000 So, I decided to stop development on it because it's getting super intricate and I'm spending zero dollars on it.
01:35:37.000 So, before we started the show, I just said to the game, let's just pause where we are, close off the ends.
01:35:44.000 We've got a minimum viable product.
01:35:46.000 We've got three classes.
01:35:48.000 We've got talent trees.
01:35:49.000 We've got special items and abilities.
01:35:50.000 We've got a card game attached to a tabletop.
01:35:53.000 I'm like, it's fairly robust as is.
01:35:55.000 So, let's.
01:35:56.000 Print and was like, You got it.
01:35:58.000 And now it's finishing off all the loose ends.
01:35:59.000 The total budget for coding was zero dollars, and the total art budget was probably close to like three hundred dollars.
01:36:06.000 Uh, no, no, that's not fair.
01:36:07.000 That's not fair.
01:36:08.000 I bought a bunch of uh various uh pre made animations that I'm not necessarily using because I will, I may use in the future.
01:36:17.000 The total spend on everything with this so far has been about maybe three thousand dollars.
01:36:23.000 But I want to clarify that's not for this game.
01:36:26.000 So I bought like 90 character models.
01:36:28.000 Just to have in a library for potential use, not being used in the game.
01:36:32.000 So the actual total cost is probably closer to $300.
01:36:36.000 Plus your GPT subscription.
01:36:38.000 So, right.
01:36:39.000 I'm saying, in terms of that, we already had, and we use.
01:36:43.000 So I'm saying usage was never, I've never reached usage capacity, have not purchased any tokens, and it's got the whole game done 3D animations, 3D graphics, procedurally generated dungeons.
01:36:57.000 It's got the game.
01:36:58.000 It was originally the full game that I'm still working on, but I'm like, let's do MVP.
01:37:02.000 20 floors, five distinct zones.
01:37:05.000 There's two special zones, legendary items, and a final boss, and a secret to actually play infinity mode.
01:37:12.000 So, once you beat the boss, the game goes on forever.
01:37:14.000 So, you get increasingly difficult bad guys forever.
01:37:16.000 Game's done.
01:37:18.000 I already had the subscription.
01:37:19.000 If I want to put that subscription in the cost, 500 bucks for the full game, and I'm not saying it's the best game in the world, but it's a roguelike with 20 levels, secret items, it can be expanded.
01:37:31.000 I'm going to release that as the MVP, and again, for a couple hundred bucks.
01:37:34.000 So, they're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on these games, but they're not fun, they're not challenging, they're boring.
01:37:39.000 Yes.
01:37:40.000 And ultimately, the point I'm trying to make is GTA 6 took 15 years.
01:37:45.000 GTA 7 will take a month.
01:37:47.000 Yeah.
01:37:48.000 Oh, that's going to be a fun one, too.
01:37:49.000 That's going to be a fun one.
01:37:50.000 I'm going to tell you right now if you have a full game studio, let's say, how many employees do they have at Rockstar?
01:37:59.000 I want to know this.
01:38:00.000 Oh, thousands.
01:38:01.000 Thousands, right?
01:38:02.000 I think they have a lot of contracts.
01:38:02.000 Yeah.
01:38:03.000 6,000.
01:38:05.000 I guarantee you, with 6,000 people using Astra to make a game, You could make GTA 7 in a couple months.
01:38:14.000 Especially if they're coordinated.
01:38:16.000 That's why I'm focused on now swarm computing because if you can easily spin up 50 different brains to all code 50 different things, but the challenge is to get them to interoperate so that, like, if you have a line of code that has a thousand letters in it, rather than have one brain go letter one, two, three, and like write the line, you'd have a thousand brains appear.
01:38:34.000 You McDonald's it.
01:38:34.000 Which then would put one letter in and then they'd flash away.
01:38:36.000 In a split second, you'd have the entire thing.
01:38:39.000 So the point is, I don't know what it is they think they're doing.
01:38:39.000 McDonald's it.
01:38:44.000 With spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a game that nobody wants to play.
01:38:47.000 But this era is over.
01:38:49.000 It's about the message.
01:38:50.000 They don't care about the money.
01:38:51.000 These people are, it's just about pushing a message.
01:38:53.000 They don't care if they, actually, I think it was Sweet Baby Inc. who they brought in.
01:38:58.000 The people who work for them actually said, We actually want to burn the whole gaming industry down.
01:39:01.000 Like that is their mission.
01:39:03.000 That's what they want to do.
01:39:03.000 That is their message.
01:39:04.000 Look at this.
01:39:05.000 They hope it fails.
01:39:06.000 Look at this.
01:39:07.000 Insomniac Games responds to Marvel's Wolverine Sabretooth romance controversy.
01:39:11.000 We got to show this video.
01:39:14.000 What is this?
01:39:14.000 Oh, it's so funny.
01:39:15.000 It's like a 10 second clip.
01:39:18.000 Please tell me it's on.
01:39:19.000 Should I just get it on X?
01:39:19.000 I think it's that.
01:39:20.000 Yeah, I'll pull it up.
01:39:22.000 And the Wolverine Sabretooth love a fair clip.
01:39:24.000 It's dirty.
01:39:25.000 Is it really? 1.00
01:39:26.000 Somebody should have been like, guys, this is a little too gay. 1.00
01:39:28.000 There's canon about Wolverine and Sabretooth. 1.00
01:39:30.000 They're supposed to be brothers, not lovers.
01:39:33.000 Oh, oh, I know.
01:39:36.000 Oh, they're brothers.
01:39:37.000 Yeah, that's the Wolverine I like.
01:39:39.000 It's why they have similar.
01:39:41.000 It's a cutscene that I'm looking for.
01:39:42.000 Yeah, it's a cutscene.
01:39:43.000 I see people talking about it, but where's the.
01:39:45.000 So funny.
01:39:46.000 I can't actually find it.
01:39:48.000 I don't think someone posted the cutscene itself.
01:39:50.000 You're Wolverine.
01:39:52.000 It's just.
01:39:54.000 Yeah, thankfully, the.
01:39:56.000 Okay.
01:39:57.000 Well, I found something that they're calling gay fan fiction for Wolverine. 0.99
01:40:00.000 I'll just play that. 0.97
01:40:02.000 What could go wrong?
01:40:05.000 This is it.
01:40:07.000 Copy, though.
01:40:09.000 I missed this.
01:40:11.000 Don't get soft on me now.
01:40:15.000 That's my Wolverine.
01:40:22.000 Oh.
01:40:22.000 Oh.
01:40:22.000 Soft on me now.
01:40:24.000 It's so coded.
01:40:25.000 Indicating that he's hard. 0.96
01:40:26.000 And then he's like, that's actual gay fan fiction in Wolverine. 0.77
01:40:30.000 And he like stands up and like arches his back. 0.68
01:40:32.000 He's like, that's.
01:40:33.000 Do you think that framing is unintentional?
01:40:35.000 Oh, seriously.
01:40:36.000 Like, I didn't even pause it there intentionally. 1.00
01:40:40.000 And they're like, they need like everybody, every gaming industry needs like a bro that could just walk in and be like, dude, that's gay as fuck. 0.99
01:40:45.000 Like, can you just like be like, give you the like the dirty, not PC take on like what your average animal brain is thinking? 1.00
01:40:51.000 That guy got fired.
01:40:52.000 Someone sent a complaint to HR because that guy, uh.
01:40:55.000 What guy? 0.99
01:40:56.000 He's saying everybody needs, every company needs a bro to walk in and be like, that's gay. 0.98
01:41:00.000 That guy got fired a decade ago. 0.98
01:41:02.000 All of that guy.
01:41:02.000 All of them.
01:41:03.000 He's just in the comments just.
01:41:04.000 Some basic animalistic male attention to these new games. 1.00
01:41:07.000 Sorry, had to hire a trans person in his stead. 1.00
01:41:12.000 Somebody needed to catch that. 1.00
01:41:13.000 That was a little too quick.
01:41:14.000 No one wants Wolverine emotional exposition for 12 hours.
01:41:17.000 We don't want that.
01:41:19.000 Look, there's plenty of canon about where Wolverine has had relationships.
01:41:26.000 There was one with Storm.
01:41:28.000 He was lusting after Gene Gray.
01:41:30.000 There was Miko in Japan.
01:41:34.000 So he's had love interests and stuff.
01:41:36.000 He wasn't gay.
01:41:38.000 Sabretooth is his brother.
01:41:39.000 There's plenty of time since Wolverine was created in 1970 in the Hulk comic book that he appeared in.
01:41:47.000 There's plenty of Wolverine story. 1.00
01:41:50.000 None of it's gay. 1.00
01:41:52.000 Sorry, LGBTQ nation, but Wolverine is not gay. 1.00
01:41:56.000 Well, he is now. 1.00
01:41:57.000 Don't get soft on me.
01:41:59.000 He is now. 0.92
01:42:00.000 And Mystique is gay? 0.91
01:42:01.000 Is that what it is? 0.77
01:42:01.000 Really? 0.77
01:42:02.000 Yep.
01:42:02.000 Well, enough.
01:42:03.000 According to the newer last decade, Mystique actually did come out as gay. 1.00
01:42:07.000 So maybe that one's fair. 1.00
01:42:08.000 She is canonically bisexual. 1.00
01:42:09.000 But to be fair, that kind of makes sense because she's just like, She's doing all sorts of weird stuff. 1.00
01:42:14.000 You know what I mean?
01:42:16.000 She knows what it's like on the other side.
01:42:17.000 No, I think they have to sacrifice our characters.
01:42:20.000 The things that we love, I think they have to sacrifice them to the altar.
01:42:22.000 This is Nick Offerman in the Last of Us series on HBO.
01:42:26.000 Was it three episodes?
01:42:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:42:28.000 It was a whole episode of just two guys being gay. 0.97
01:42:30.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:42:30.000 I mean, this is. 0.97
01:42:31.000 Why?
01:42:32.000 And then, but then Last of Us.
01:42:34.000 So Last of Us was amazing because the first game was like it was the male, it was the father figure power fantasy.
01:42:42.000 It was the apocalypse happens.
01:42:44.000 The guy loses his daughter.
01:42:45.000 There's a young girl.
01:42:46.000 He's going to save her and keep her safe.
01:42:48.000 And then when he finds out that she has the potential cure, he chooses to sacrifice humanity to save her life.
01:42:53.000 Yes.
01:42:54.000 And it's a brutal ending.
01:42:55.000 And they're like, okay, hold on.
01:42:56.000 We're going to make part two.
01:42:58.000 He's dead. 1.00
01:42:59.000 She's gay. 0.99
01:43:00.000 Yes. 1.00
01:43:02.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:43:03.000 And the main antagonist is trans. 1.00
01:43:06.000 Well, they tried arguing that wasn't the case, but it was just a butch woman. 0.99
01:43:12.000 They're like, that's a woman who's just muscular from surviving the apocalypse. 1.00
01:43:15.000 And it's like, Women don't get muscles. 1.00
01:43:17.000 I was used to like, what do they call it? 1.00
01:43:19.000 Chivalry with like Mario and the princess.
01:43:21.000 And she's like, thank you.
01:43:22.000 And he's like, my pleasure.
01:43:23.000 Let me hold your hand first.
01:43:25.000 I didn't need like Mario doggy style and anything.
01:43:28.000 And to insert sexuality into video games in general to me is very strange.
01:43:32.000 I understand.
01:43:32.000 The Last of Us three, they're going to have that antagonist.
01:43:35.000 You know, they're searching for food. 1.00
01:43:36.000 She's searching for testosterone.
01:43:38.000 Well, here's a question for you, Adam.
01:43:40.000 If the zombie apocalypse happened and people were getting all fungal brained and then scientists were like, your daughter, Has the cure in her brain. 1.00
01:43:48.000 She has to kill her and take her brain. 0.99
01:43:50.000 Would you let him? 1.00
01:43:50.000 No, yeah, I'd massacre those guys. 1.00
01:43:52.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99
01:43:54.000 I'd have fun with it.
01:43:55.000 I'd be like, Bye, humans.
01:43:56.000 I loved when Richie McGinnis was here.
01:43:59.000 I was like, If aliens were threatened to blow up the earth, let's just scale it up.
01:44:02.000 They're literally gonna blow up the earth.
01:44:04.000 They're like, Sacrifice your daughter.
01:44:06.000 It's like, Bye, bye, humans, bye, humanity.
01:44:06.000 We blow up the earth.
01:44:10.000 Or a package.
01:44:11.000 That's pretty messed up.
01:44:12.000 You take her, you take me.
01:44:14.000 And it's funny too, because obviously, before being a dad, I was like, Man, how do you sacrifice all of humanity?
01:44:19.000 For a single person who needs humanity, I don't think I want to understand that.
01:44:24.000 I don't want to think like I would sacrifice a hundred million, eight billion people to save.
01:44:30.000 Well, to be fair, most people were already dead, and there was like only a few hundred thousand left or something in the game.
01:44:34.000 I don't even, and I don't like most people, so that's a pretty easy choice, honestly.
01:44:39.000 Actually, I'm the one who released the fungal zombie apocalypse.
01:44:43.000 That was me.
01:44:43.000 Well, I'm really concerned with because Adam, you're making great points about we need better games, we really do, more entertaining, more real, easier to play.
01:44:51.000 You learn, they're challenging, but we need to coordinate because there's something going on in the 90s and before where, like, the geopolitical order was shoving a narrative down our throat for good or worse, but it was unifying us.
01:45:04.000 There was a cohesion that has sort of been splintered.
01:45:06.000 The Burger King Kids Club.
01:45:08.000 What's that?
01:45:09.000 The Burger King Kids Club.
01:45:10.000 Yeah, stuff like that.
01:45:11.000 Now you can see with AI too, these different brains.
01:45:13.000 You have a million brains, but they don't know what the other ones are doing.
01:45:15.000 And it's really weird.
01:45:16.000 Isn't that crazy, though?
01:45:17.000 We had the fast food kids club and play places.
01:45:20.000 And now it's just like our Pizza Hut is a brutalist strip mall box to give you sucralose pizza.
01:45:27.000 Okay, but the McDonald's Play Place was awesome.
01:45:30.000 And it's gone.
01:45:30.000 I know.
01:45:31.000 Yeah, because people don't have kids.
01:45:31.000 It is gone.
01:45:33.000 No, but it's also gone because everything has been.
01:45:36.000 Uh, sterilized.
01:45:37.000 I mean, I think part of what's happened.
01:45:39.000 Do you ever hear like, do you ever see people talking about, you know, the millennial gray house with no art on the walls and everything's just monotone?
01:45:47.000 That's my house, yeah.
01:45:48.000 I think that no, I have wallpaper, I have art, I have wallpaper.
01:45:53.000 It's a bunch of it's a floral pattern and it's just like, it's like, uh, literally paintings on everything.
01:45:58.000 It's like, uh, what you call it, um, Home Alone.
01:46:00.000 But I think I was, I was, I asked my wife, like, in all seriousness, I was like, you want to do wallpaper?
01:46:04.000 She's like, God, no, I was like, why?
01:46:07.000 Everybody we knew had wallpaper when we were kids.
01:46:09.000 Wallpaper, wall to wall carpeting, curtains, like extra curtains, curtains that are close to the window, curtains that are back.
01:46:09.000 What happened?
01:46:16.000 Have you seen the Home Alone house now?
01:46:18.000 It's just, it's all brutalistic.
01:46:20.000 I saw your tweet about it. 0.99
01:46:21.000 It's pretty disgusting.
01:46:22.000 But I think one thing that's happened is that we are so overstimulated by tech and what's in our hands that we don't need that when we look around.
01:46:30.000 When we look around, we want something that is more quiet.
01:46:33.000 I mean, I think that's part of what's going on.
01:46:35.000 And so when you look at the monoculture, And the dissolution of the monoculture, we do sort of have some monoculture online in the way that we all interact with our devices and with our tech.
01:46:48.000 Like that is universal at this point.
01:46:52.000 You know, like it's like the interface is universal, even if the subject is not universal.
01:46:56.000 We're all scrolling, we're all looking at short form content, we're all reading like little captioned tweets and things like that.
01:47:04.000 So even if we're not all looking at the same content, we are.
01:47:10.000 Consuming content in the same way.
01:47:13.000 So the experience is there, even if the things that are.
01:47:19.000 The experience is the same.
01:47:20.000 The things that we are experiencing are the same, even if they are not, in minutia, the same.
01:47:27.000 You know I, I saw wait, I saw the in common, how we interface with interface, not what we're interfacing with.
01:47:34.000 It's about how we interface with, how we interface with life and with the.
01:47:37.000 I've uh i've, i've been getting a lot of those Instagram 90s nostalgia things, but they they, they Like on Instagram, people have made a bunch of AI nostalgia from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s.
01:47:47.000 And I was just watching a 90s one, and it's just like this mom, and she's making Thanksgiving dinner.
01:47:53.000 And then I see the table mat, that plastic table cloth, whatever you'd call it.
01:48:00.000 And that's just like I'm looking around at the style of the cabinets, and I was like, yeah, I'm going to buy all that.
01:48:06.000 I'm going to go and be like, I just want to live in the 90s, you know, and we'll make believe while we're inside.
01:48:10.000 They had a lot of weird PVC chemicals.
01:48:13.000 Watch out for those.
01:48:14.000 For mica, I don't know if it's toxic or not. 0.99
01:48:15.000 We're gonna go to your rumble rants and super chat, so smash the like button, share the show with everyone.
01:48:21.000 You know, the uncensored portion of the show is coming up where we're gonna say a bunch of naughty words and tell AI jokes and, you know, whatever.
01:48:28.000 Cabbage Rolls said, Oh, I love cabbage rolls.
01:48:30.000 Oh man, remember the good old days when climate change destroyed the world?
01:48:33.000 Those were the times.
01:48:35.000 Luckily, the same people now warn us that AI will destroy the world.
01:48:37.000 My favorite are the people that are claiming that AI is gonna create global warming.
01:48:42.000 Oh, yep.
01:48:42.000 It's not a joke.
01:48:43.000 Because of the data centers.
01:48:45.000 Are going to, the AI is going to keep producing data centers for itself, whether we want it to or not, and it will create an increase in temperature, which will kill humans.
01:48:54.000 You know?
01:48:55.000 Yeah.
01:48:56.000 Same old man says the AI only replicates, tries to survive, or attack is because it's programmed to.
01:49:01.000 It is just a sophisticated virus and nothing more.
01:49:03.000 I want to clarify this because it's pretty wild where we are.
01:49:06.000 It's not programmed.
01:49:08.000 AI is not programmed anymore.
01:49:10.000 They're defining it as like tuning the AI because it has trillions of what are effectively digital neurons.
01:49:18.000 It does not know where the programming is anymore.
01:49:22.000 Simple programming, oh man, like let's talk about very simple programming.
01:49:28.000 You push a button on a keyboard that controls like the amount of voltage going through a certain gate or whatever, which results in it's a very simple if this then that.
01:49:37.000 We've gotten to the point where, you know, 15, 20 years ago before modern AI, you'd be like, oh, it's, you know, 3 million lines of code to produce this massive software program.
01:49:49.000 I shouldn't say 20 years ago, like 10 years ago.
01:49:51.000 Now we're at the point with the large language models where we actually don't know what the code is.
01:49:56.000 There's no source code.
01:49:57.000 Maybe two or three years ago, there was code and it was basically just predicting the next word.
01:50:03.000 We're past that now.
01:50:04.000 We actually can't see the, like, there's just too many variables at this point.
01:50:10.000 So, when people say it's programmed to do it, actually, that's not correct.
01:50:15.000 But it's been trained or instructed or grown.
01:50:17.000 Well, it got to the point where we stopped being able to perceive the if this then that.
01:50:22.000 That's the point.
01:50:23.000 And then once it got past that point, we didn't know exactly what was happening, but we're inputting things.
01:50:29.000 So, I'll put it like this maybe it's possible at some point we do figure it out, but it's very much like some dude very early on seeing the first radio transmission where he's like, I have no idea how or what's happening, but.
01:50:41.000 With these wires here, the sound's coming out over there.
01:50:44.000 And they're going, This is incredible.
01:50:45.000 And then they started to define it and figure out what it was.
01:50:48.000 So these AIs, they're at the point now where we no longer can see the programming because the variables are too great.
01:50:55.000 And we're going, Well, if I change that number from a four to a 12, it gives me a different response.
01:51:03.000 I don't know why, but it's a better response.
01:51:06.000 That's what training is.
01:51:08.000 And it's not a single person doing the training, it's all of us.
01:51:11.000 So, when we interact with AI, we are adjusting its values.
01:51:15.000 People at OpenAI cannot watch in real time 100 million people turning knobs that are adjusting values.
01:51:23.000 They're just sitting back being like, the more people use it, the more it's learning and advancing.
01:51:29.000 Yeah, this just says the early AI was easy to identify.
01:51:32.000 Like you're saying, coding.
01:51:33.000 It was from the 1950s to the 1980s, mostly coded.
01:51:37.000 And then it was 2000, 2010, they started doing machine learning.
01:51:41.000 And instead of writing rules, you write an algorithm that then starts to learn.
01:51:45.000 So, basically, to try and simplify where we're at.
01:51:51.000 When you get asked a question, and it happens all the time, ChatGPT will be like, which response do you prefer?
01:51:56.000 You say, I like this one over this one.
01:51:59.000 Sam Altman can't see that response.
01:52:01.000 And it's happening millions of times per hour, probably.
01:52:05.000 All of those are adjusting the knobs, the trillions of variables inside these machines, and they don't know how that affects what's happening inside that machine.
01:52:12.000 All they know is everybody keeps telling it, I like this and I don't like that.
01:52:16.000 So inside the machine changes and it's forming to what people say yes and no to.
01:52:22.000 Let's grab some more.
01:52:26.000 Micah says, I want to go to college for coding in 2021 because I love it and it's already obsolete.
01:52:31.000 Just with Codex, I built software for my company with a total half million lines of code in two weeks.
01:52:36.000 Indeed.
01:52:37.000 The game that I'm working on, I had it write for me 40,000 lines of JavaScript in about 15 minutes.
01:52:46.000 For the record, what would it take?
01:52:46.000 Insane.
01:52:48.000 I'm going to ask this.
01:52:50.000 What would it have cost me to get a developer to write 40,000 lines of code 15 years ago?
01:52:56.000 TechRoo says Inside of you, there are two wolves, and they are always on their phones.
01:53:01.000 That's a good one.
01:53:02.000 It's good.
01:53:03.000 It says that a regular industry professional would have written 10 to 50 lines of code per day.
01:53:08.000 You said 40,000?
01:53:10.000 In 10 minutes.
01:53:11.000 15 minutes.
01:53:11.000 It was 10 to 50.
01:53:12.000 Now it's 40,000.
01:53:14.000 It's also 15 years ago.
01:53:15.000 You should ask it.
01:53:16.000 Yeah, ask it five years ago.
01:53:19.000 It's probably not that different.
01:53:20.000 How about five years ago?
01:53:21.000 Probably not that different.
01:53:23.000 Watch the AIs just lying to you, being like, trust me, I'm valuable.
01:53:25.000 You would have spent like $100 an hour getting these guys to write at a thousandth of the pace that you're working at now.
01:53:33.000 Now you pay nothing.
01:53:34.000 I believe that the game that I.
01:53:36.000 A scenario?
01:53:36.000 $1.28 million.
01:53:38.000 That's what it said?
01:53:38.000 Estimated scenario of a U.S. contractor mid range, $100,000.
01:53:41.000 40,000 lines.
01:53:43.000 So the game that I have done right now, I would estimate the total production cost pre Astro would have been about $80,000.
01:53:52.000 The game works, the Astro works at the speed of light 24 7.
01:53:57.000 So when it's doing playtesting, you can watch a screen and it goes.
01:53:57.000 Yeah.
01:54:02.000 That's my favorite part of the whole process, is watching that.
01:54:07.000 So, it's like when I used to make games, it's like, okay, I gave the ability of the character to use magic missiles or cone of coldness.
01:54:14.000 Now I got to play, load the game.
01:54:16.000 I have the debug menu.
01:54:17.000 I'll be like, give the character the staff, and then I'll start using it, and I'm watching, and then I'll look in the logs, and I'll be like, okay, there's a damage variable problem.
01:54:25.000 For some reason, it's only outputting 20 damage per second, but it needs to be variable between 15 and 25.
01:54:32.000 That process, which would have taken me five to 10 minutes of navigating, is a millisecond.
01:54:38.000 For Astro.
01:54:39.000 This is saying it would have taken, this is five years ago, it would have taken 1,600 developer days to get this thing done that you did in three days.
01:54:48.000 1,600 days divided by, I don't know how many developers you would have used, 10 of them, 160 days, half a year.
01:54:54.000 It's putting it together in C sharp, I think.
01:54:56.000 Yeah, C sharp is the basic language.
01:54:58.000 The programming language today is English.
01:54:59.000 Modern English is your programming language because it's just prompt.
01:55:02.000 And it can turn it into any language for you on the spot.
01:55:04.000 It knows all of them.
01:55:06.000 It's probably right in the language.
01:55:08.000 That's why there was this math teacher who went viral in China for saying, Stop teaching Chinese kids English.
01:55:14.000 We don't need to do that anymore.
01:55:16.000 So it's calculating the total lines of code so far.
01:55:19.000 I don't know what it's going to come out.
01:55:20.000 Maybe it's less.
01:55:21.000 Yeah.
01:55:22.000 Rough numbers, but dear God.
01:55:22.000 It's more.
01:55:24.000 I mean, this is the level of change that people need to understand.
01:55:26.000 It's.
01:55:27.000 Okay.
01:55:28.000 Yeah.
01:55:28.000 So currently it has 41,000 lines of code.
01:55:28.000 No, no.
01:55:32.000 This game I built from scratch starting Saturday.
01:55:35.000 It's roughly a millionth of the cost, and you built it 50 times faster.
01:55:42.000 Hmm.
01:55:45.000 So, yeah, what does happen to all of the people who are suddenly useless in the face of AI and industry?
01:55:53.000 What happens to all of the people?
01:55:55.000 They got to learn to truck.
01:55:57.000 So, I asked it based on not just the lines of code, but the art as well.
01:56:00.000 How many man hours would it have taken in 2021?
01:56:05.000 I love this.
01:56:06.000 Roughly 3,000 to 6,000 in person hours as of 2021 for combat, testing, inventory, the card system, the card game itself.
01:56:15.000 Yep.
01:56:16.000 And is.
01:56:17.000 So it says between 18.
01:56:18.000 Oh my God.
01:56:19.000 I was way wrong.
01:56:20.000 I said I thought, I was like, I think I gotten six months worth of work done in a weekend.
01:56:25.000 It says 18 to 36 months for a full time developer.
01:56:28.000 Wow.
01:56:29.000 Six to 12 months for a coordinated three person team.
01:56:29.000 Did you?
01:56:32.000 Did you write it from the ground up or did you grab a bunch of?
01:56:34.000 Ground up.
01:56:35.000 Oh, yeah.
01:56:35.000 No, no, no, no.
01:56:36.000 Hold on.
01:56:37.000 This is including that I bought animations.
01:56:40.000 Okay.
01:56:43.000 So it did make its own animations, but I said, stop.
01:56:46.000 I don't feel like spending time on art direction.
01:56:48.000 The code doesn't exist.
01:56:50.000 I need specific, I mean, there's certain code somewhere, but you need specific code for the parameters that you want.
01:56:55.000 So just do it.
01:56:57.000 Done.
01:56:58.000 Art, on the other hand, requires me to visually confirm the art.
01:57:02.000 Eh, waste of time.
01:57:03.000 Someone already animated a bunch of characters.
01:57:05.000 I just buy it from them.
01:57:06.000 That's still faster and easier.
01:57:07.000 It sounds like, to answer your question of what are people going to do, become digital artists.
01:57:11.000 If you can produce badass animations, I mean, that's going to be supplanted pretty quick.
01:57:14.000 My God.
01:57:15.000 But also, if you become a digital artist, how much digital art is really needed?
01:57:21.000 Like, and why are people going to pay for it?
01:57:22.000 We got to have George Alexopoulos on here.
01:57:24.000 How are people going to pay for it?
01:57:25.000 He's very good.
01:57:26.000 Yeah.
01:57:26.000 He's a brilliant hand artist.
01:57:29.000 He draws and paints.
01:57:30.000 He had a great thing out today.
01:57:31.000 Did you see his thing today?
01:57:33.000 It was the Haitian black Catholic holdout juror in the Lindsey Clancy trial.
01:57:33.000 It was.
01:57:39.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:57:40.000 Just these deranged women screaming at him. 1.00
01:57:44.000 Yeah, it was good. 0.98
01:57:44.000 You released a series. 0.98
01:57:45.000 So it's giving me the total cost.
01:57:47.000 It says that the total cost of production so far for this game in 2021 would be $260,000 on average.
01:57:54.000 Holy cow.
01:57:55.000 Based on mean hourly wage for a video game developer.
01:58:00.000 However, here's the truth this game works 24 7 with no overtime.
01:58:07.000 And it is faster and more precise than any human I've ever worked with.
01:58:10.000 Doesn't complain.
01:58:11.000 No complaints.
01:58:13.000 When there's an issue, I say, like, I've had an issue with ladder animations.
01:58:18.000 Somehow in the core, like, the character animations are done.
01:58:21.000 And then we like update one thing and it causes a bug on the ladder animation.
01:58:24.000 I just go, the ladder animation is glitching out again.
01:58:27.000 Please restore it.
01:58:27.000 And it goes, done.
01:58:29.000 I've actually been improving my grammar and my ability to communicate with AI because I'm prompting it.
01:58:34.000 And I'm prompting it so intricately.
01:58:36.000 You have to be super precise about what to and what not to do with these things.
01:58:40.000 So every time I talk to it, I leave these like exorbitant paragraphs with them.
01:58:44.000 And then it's like I write like in Shakespearean almost like, if you think, but for a moment, that we might, period, period, period, then, I abhor or I encourage you or I implore you to reconsider that we might do it this way.
01:58:59.000 Look, give me a database of a string down of positives and I'll give it.
01:59:03.000 That's how I talk to my AI.
01:59:04.000 Do you find that that impacts how you talk to human beings?
01:59:06.000 The last three weeks, I've been way more fluid on this show.
01:59:09.000 I'm way more fluid. 1.00
01:59:10.000 So, if you use it for idiocy, you're going to become more of an idiot. 1.00
01:59:13.000 If you embellish your intelligence, you're going to become smarter. 1.00
01:59:16.000 It has been coding 24 7 nonstop since Saturday.
01:59:21.000 The game is about to finish.
01:59:24.000 I think a minimum viable product will be done tomorrow.
01:59:28.000 That's not fair.
01:59:29.000 That's not fair.
01:59:30.000 And then are you going to release it?
01:59:31.000 Beta.
01:59:32.000 Yes.
01:59:33.000 So, I think a playable game will be ready tomorrow for our elite members in the Discord to start playtesting.
01:59:40.000 We want to go through and check bugs.
01:59:42.000 There's like the animation does need some refining only because I want to maximize the timing between hits and dodging.
01:59:50.000 Red's Descent.
01:59:51.000 So it's a roguelike dungeon crawl game with a bunch of items, easily expandable.
01:59:56.000 And then what I'm going to do is with the MVP, I'm going to slowly roll out new playable characters, new zones, new dungeons.
02:00:03.000 I can easily make.
02:00:04.000 Here's what's crazy the game's done.
02:00:07.000 I can just type a prompt.
02:00:10.000 Okay, we're doing the expansion pack.
02:00:12.000 It's going right now.
02:00:13.000 It's a haunted tower dungeon theme, and so it's got like the butchery, is grotesque meat hooks.
02:00:19.000 There's like the royal quarter, and you know, it's the demon's lair.
02:00:23.000 The next expansion can be the elvish city.
02:00:25.000 I'll say, Let's do uh, we're gonna do 20 new levels, five zones, four dungeon, four levels each.
02:00:31.000 Following the similar theme, we need new items literally in one prompt, and it'll go okay.
02:00:37.000 It'll generate it all overnight, and I'll come in in the morning, and the game is done and playable.
02:00:41.000 That's that that's where we're at right now, literally.
02:00:46.000 Two years of work in several hours. 1.00
02:00:50.000 I just don't know who's going to buy it if you don't have an incestuous homosexual narrative. 0.86
02:00:54.000 Oh, no, no, that's in there. 0.93
02:00:55.000 Okay, good.
02:00:55.000 Yeah, I made sure to put it on.
02:00:56.000 Well, I was hoping to sell it to a studio. 0.99
02:00:59.000 And so we put gay sex in there and gay man stuff. 0.97
02:01:03.000 And the reveal is the main character is a female and there's cutscenes with her. 0.97
02:01:07.000 What I'm going to do is at the very end, the goal is you get the wishing stone.
02:01:12.000 And so you don't know why.
02:01:15.000 So the story is the Demon King has the great wishing stone.
02:01:18.000 All manner of creature and man want to fight their way to the dungeon and defeat the champion so that the Demon King grants you the wishing stone so that you can get whatever you want.
02:01:27.000 And you're wondering, like, what does she want?
02:01:28.000 Like, why is she risking her life?
02:01:30.000 And it's very clear in the beginning of the cutscene, they're like, you're going to die.
02:01:33.000 Finally, when she gets the wishing stone, she wishes to be a man.
02:01:36.000 Plot twist The Demon King is her father, and he apologizes for it.
02:01:42.000 He's like, No, what are you doing here?
02:01:44.000 I kicked you out when you started that OnlyFans account.
02:01:47.000 And then she's like, Give me the stone.
02:01:49.000 I wish we were a family again.
02:01:51.000 Ah, not if you're still doing that.
02:01:53.000 But I have the wishing stone.
02:01:54.000 I don't care.
02:01:55.000 Not in my house.
02:01:56.000 Not under my roof.
02:01:57.000 Not under my roof.
02:01:58.000 Not in my dungeon.
02:01:59.000 I pay the bills.
02:02:00.000 I make the rules.
02:02:02.000 Well, the whole, I mean, good Lord.
02:02:04.000 So now we got to build organizational tools so a million people can make a trillion games, and then you'll have access to all of them and you'll know where they are and you'll know what's what.
02:02:11.000 Basically, the thing about the game dev is that it's able to do all the coding, but it doesn't really understand what humans like.
02:02:21.000 It just knows how to make things.
02:02:23.000 So, one of the things is like, I was like, okay, we want to do a dungeon, we want this level.
02:02:26.000 It made a dungeon map.
02:02:28.000 I had to tell it, I had to give it precision, and then it needed direction, it needed project management.
02:02:34.000 Here's my fear.
02:02:36.000 No, not very few people are going to be able to do this.
02:02:40.000 A lot of, as it is right now, a lot of people will be able to pull up Astra and say, I want this game.
02:02:47.000 What I will say is, it was not hard work.
02:02:50.000 It was vision.
02:02:52.000 I'm not suggesting the game is good or anything like that.
02:02:54.000 I'm saying the game was built on vision and understanding general gamification and mechanics, not on hard work.
02:03:03.000 So if you are someone who likes playing video games, Here's the crazy reality.
02:03:10.000 I guarantee my boy Andy can make the best RPG ever made.
02:03:14.000 He's played Final Fantasy since he was a little kid.
02:03:16.000 He's played every single RPG.
02:03:17.000 He knows every secret to every RPG, but he's not a developer.
02:03:21.000 Now that he can code in English, he knows what makes a good game because he loves them.
02:03:25.000 He can tell it do this, do that, do this.
02:03:27.000 It'll do it.
02:03:28.000 And then they'll say, yeah, but you got to do this for this reason.
02:03:32.000 There's a lot of people who can't do that.
02:03:34.000 So very few people are going to be the visionaries.
02:03:37.000 For making these games.
02:03:38.000 You know what I found in improving your vision, your ability to convey vision to these machines is you tell it what you want, what your end goal is, what kind of game it is, and then you say, give me a layout of all your suggestions of how to make it better with the potential positive outcomes and the potential drawbacks.
02:03:54.000 Send me all the things you want to avoid and why, and then it will draw you up and then make it think as deep as it can.
02:04:00.000 So you're basically like, give me all your ideas and tell me what might go wrong, and it will give you the list and then give you all the guardrails, and then you're like, do it.
02:04:08.000 Can we just, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show right now, but I really hope people understand a couple of things.
02:04:13.000 Because I know a lot of people don't care about AI.
02:04:15.000 It's the biggest news right now, not by choice.
02:04:18.000 We cover the biggest news.
02:04:19.000 When Andrew Yang goes out and gets 4 million views or whatever on a clip where he says the AI is spreading itself throughout the internet, but I also don't think people understand when I can compress $300,000 worth of labor into a few days, what that means for the economy.
02:04:36.000 And I want you to understand this, guys.
02:04:38.000 This did not exist two weeks ago.
02:04:40.000 Astra just came out.
02:04:42.000 I have used GPT Soul.
02:04:44.000 I have used these AI models, and I've been like, yeah, whatever.
02:04:48.000 On this show, on the uncensored portion, I made a game called Alien Invaders.
02:04:52.000 It was a little square, and it fired little squares up at other little squares that were trying to get past you.
02:04:57.000 That was what?
02:04:58.000 When did I do that?
02:04:59.000 Seven months ago or whatever?
02:05:00.000 A year ago?
02:05:00.000 Something like that.
02:05:02.000 There were no graphics, and that was the extent.
02:05:04.000 I told Claude, I said, Super Mario World was made in 1992.
02:05:12.000 Make that right now.
02:05:14.000 It could not do it.
02:05:16.000 It made this, it was a little square that could jump, and there were green squares.
02:05:20.000 That's all it was.
02:05:21.000 And I was like, this is terrible.
02:05:23.000 And I asked it, how is it that you have access to all of the code for the last 30 years and you cannot.
02:05:30.000 Make something as sophisticated as Super Mario World.
02:05:34.000 I said, I can't do it.
02:05:35.000 Today, with Fable and Claude, that's not a question anymore.
02:05:39.000 In fact, the jump from GPT Soul to Astra is the difference between I need to hire a human being, spend $300,000 to get this game done, and two weeks later, it's $200 for the subscription and the game is done in four days.
02:05:57.000 We're going to go to the uncensored portion at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
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02:06:04.000 Good buddy, you want to shout anything out?
02:06:06.000 Yeah, I'm Adam Johnson, Lectern Guy.
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02:06:20.000 Hey, man.
02:06:21.000 Big pleasure, dude.
02:06:22.000 Good to see you.
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02:06:36.000 And real quick, just for those asking, the game that I have should be just about finishing up a minimum viable product.
02:06:43.000 It's unfair to say MVP.
02:06:45.000 It's going to be an alpha.
02:06:46.000 And I say that only because no one else has played it.
02:06:49.000 I think just Ian and Mark have played it.
02:06:51.000 So while it theoretically may be at the point of an MVP in terms of normal game dev, because it's not actually been played by anybody, I'm going to call it an alpha test or a beta test.
02:07:02.000 That's going to be available to the Timcast.com Elite members.
02:07:06.000 Which is, these are the legit, you know, cream of the crop of Timcast members.
02:07:11.000 It's not, you know, it's 100 bucks a month.
02:07:13.000 So we're releasing it just because you're going to get it.
02:07:16.000 We're going to give them a free copy to play.
02:07:18.000 And we're going to ask you guys and the elite members to contribute ideas, maybe art, whatever you want to be involved in.
02:07:26.000 Then once we get through and we think it's like, okay, this is working, we're going to release it to all Timcast members for a general alpha test.
02:07:33.000 And then once everyone agrees, like, yo, this is cooking, we're going to publish it everywhere.
02:07:37.000 I think we'll publish it where we can.
02:07:39.000 Obviously, the easy one is Steam, and we're going to look into consoles and all that.
02:07:44.000 We got to map the console controls.
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02:09:36.000 So, in the game, there's when you beat the game, you unlock a new class.
02:09:41.000 So, there's just three classes, and you can unlock one by beating the game.
02:09:44.000 And the unlockable class is fairly OP.
02:09:47.000 What is it?
02:09:48.000 Fairly OP.
02:09:48.000 I'm not going to say it.
02:09:49.000 Okay.
02:09:50.000 It's going to be for people to play the game and beat it and be like, yo, let's go.
02:09:53.000 Good.
02:09:54.000 But the original classes are Rogue, Knight, and Sorcerer.
02:09:56.000 When you go to Endless Mode, can you use the new class or do you have to beat it with the new class?
02:10:01.000 There's no Endless Mode.
02:10:02.000 Oh, I thought you said it went on forever.
02:10:03.000 No, the Infinity Mode.
02:10:05.000 In the game, to get to the Endless Catacombs is to acquire the secret items to unlock.
02:10:10.000 The door, and then you play the game forever.
02:10:11.000 So it's basically you can beat the game, and then if you're a good player and you map it out and you do the quest, then you just get an infinite action RPG.
02:10:21.000 And then we're going to do like daily seeded runs where we say, like, here's the seed, and everyone plays the same map.
02:10:27.000 And then we see like how far everyone got.
02:10:29.000 I like that stuff.
02:10:29.000 We'll do like a global ranking, like this person got to like sub basement 294.
02:10:35.000 Yeah, that's what Guild Run has.
02:10:37.000 Yeah, and it'll be like once you're at that depth, like, what level is your character even?
02:10:41.000 You know, like, 375, you're hitting for like 68,000 fire damage, you know?
02:10:47.000 Can I use a game shark on it?
02:10:49.000 It'd be cool to put a cheat code.
02:10:49.000 No.
02:10:51.000 There is a debug menu in it, though.
02:10:52.000 That's fun.
02:10:53.000 In addition to video games, we talked so much about writing software in general.
02:10:57.000 I've been writing software, having AI write the software code.
02:10:59.000 So, like, I've got this game in development.
02:11:03.000 I'm like, where's the game at?
02:11:04.000 I'd keep having to ask AI, like, what's our status?
02:11:06.000 How far along are we?
02:11:06.000 What's our development status?
02:11:08.000 How far do we have to go?
02:11:08.000 How much compute is that going to require?
02:11:10.000 How much time is that going to require?
02:11:11.000 So, instead, I just had it design me a desktop app that pops up where I can read everything in real time.
02:11:16.000 And follow its development process.
02:11:17.000 And now I'm building a feedback app for Timcast or for myself where I can tell the app, I want, make sure we get that video game done, Name Normie Quest, make sure that we get that finished.
02:11:29.000 And I tell ChatGPT, it puts it into the database that will disperse it to my executive team.
02:11:35.000 So in the morning when they come into work, they'll see all our new projects.
02:11:38.000 All I got to do is say it once.
02:11:39.000 So I just want to clarify that already exists.
02:11:41.000 We've had issues where we have an idea, we talk about getting it done, and then it just doesn't go anywhere.
02:11:45.000 So this will make sure it gets in the hands of the people that need it.
02:11:48.000 It's local, and I know the software.
02:11:49.000 Slack rolled out Claude.
02:11:51.000 So now Slack workspaces have an AI and it's a little button you click and just say, hey, make sure, here's the like.
02:11:57.000 So that means literally, if we're sitting there, like, oh, that's a really funny idea, Ian, you just go into the app and say, remind the executive team at 9 a.m.
02:12:02.000 This was the idea.
02:12:03.000 That might be really good usage because I don't want to write it if I don't have to.
02:12:07.000 It takes time, it takes compute.
02:12:10.000 So using free software or open source software is a big leap forward, but it could be infected.
02:12:14.000 You never know.
02:12:15.000 Like, unless you can literally read the code yourself and inspect it and know what it means, it might be opening up a gate somewhere in your machine if you get it off GitHub.
02:12:23.000 So, I've been writing all my own software.
02:12:25.000 Well, my machines have been doing it for me, but I've been commanding them to write local software that I know is clean.
02:12:31.000 But it just takes so much compute, requires time that I want to spend making video games.
02:12:36.000 I don't know, man.
02:12:37.000 What I'm doing right now is building a series of AI organizational tools where I can, I told you about this, so I can build more faster.
02:12:45.000 I'm just treating it as if we have unlimited compute because I think we're about to have unlimited compute with Iron Lattice technology, where they put the memory in the processor with graphene chips.
02:12:54.000 It makes it 10 million times faster and a million times less electricity.
02:12:57.000 We're going to have near instantaneous compute power where you could build Facebook in like six minutes.
02:13:04.000 That'd be great.
02:13:04.000 Swarm computation.
02:13:07.000 Well, I'm hopeful for it.
02:13:08.000 There are a lot of doomers with AI.
02:13:10.000 I just, I know when we campaigned, a lot of people hated the idea of data centers and they're worried about the environmental impacts, the water usage, the grid usage, things like this, whether we have the infrastructure to actually set these things up.
02:13:24.000 What do you think about it?
02:13:26.000 I'm on the fence with it as far as where to put the data centers.
02:13:29.000 I've also heard they're extremely loud, so I don't think they should be near residential places.
02:13:33.000 I think there's plenty of land across the U.S. that we set these things up.
02:13:36.000 I'm not opposed to building them in general.
02:13:40.000 I think for me, it's more of a location.
02:13:42.000 Underground might be the way to do it, or partially buried, like so it doesn't vibrate like that.
02:13:47.000 That crazy power lines will do that too sometimes in Venice.
02:13:49.000 I noticed with all the salt water in the air, Venice, California, just the buzzing, the electrical lines would be like all night long right outside my window.
02:13:56.000 And it was definitely noise pollution.
02:13:58.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
02:13:59.000 Like, I have a train that goes by, and I don't mind the sound of the train.
02:14:02.000 But I don't like incessant buzzing. 1.00
02:14:05.000 That shit gets in your. 1.00
02:14:06.000 When Trump was like, the windmills are causing, giving people cancer, and they laughed at him. 1.00
02:14:10.000 No, no, like loud sounds can make you.
02:14:11.000 Loud sounds are no good.
02:14:12.000 Yeah.
02:14:13.000 Yeah.
02:14:14.000 No, it's no good.
02:14:15.000 So maybe we can bury the data, partially bury data centers.
02:14:17.000 Although then you have like situations like if you bury the data centers because of geothermal, it won't be as cool.
02:14:17.000 Have you ever looked at it?
02:14:23.000 You'll have cooling issues.
02:14:25.000 Just soundproof them in, wouldn't you?
02:14:26.000 Like a sound deadening cavern.
02:14:31.000 You could put them in where the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is.
02:14:31.000 Right.
02:14:35.000 Is being depleted.
02:14:35.000 Just use those caverns so they don't collapse.
02:14:39.000 I don't know if the geo would cool it or heat it.
02:14:42.000 I don't know, right?
02:14:43.000 That's sort of what I want because people use geothermal for heat, but you can also use under the ground for cooling, like root cellars and things.
02:14:54.000 I've noticed if I go out barefoot in the winter and I put my feet on the dirt, it warms me up.
02:14:59.000 And if I go out barefoot in the summer and put my feet in the dirt, it cools me down.
02:15:02.000 This is not that good, but it's actually not bad.
02:15:06.000 I told Venice, I make a super offensive joke about leftists.
02:15:10.000 What's the difference between a leftist and a suicide bomber? 0.90
02:15:14.000 A suicide bomber has a job. 0.60
02:15:14.000 What? 0.60
02:15:16.000 Oh.
02:15:16.000 You good?
02:15:19.000 You could plug in anybody, though, as your butt of that joke.
02:15:19.000 Wow.
02:15:22.000 Right, right, right.
02:15:23.000 That one, though.
02:15:24.000 Wow.
02:15:24.000 That's good.
02:15:25.000 That's really good.
02:15:26.000 Oof.
02:15:28.000 Oof.
02:15:29.000 I'm going to save that one.
02:15:31.000 That's a good one.
02:15:32.000 That's a good one.
02:15:32.000 That's a job.
02:15:34.000 When I'm thinking about my AI employees, I'm not actually paying them, I'm just giving them energy or I'm facilitating their ability to use energy.
02:15:42.000 I think of them, I almost start calling them my children.
02:15:44.000 I'm like, I got to go check on my kids, but I don't really think of them as my children.
02:15:47.000 This is not, I wouldn't call this one good.
02:15:49.000 I would call it clever.
02:15:52.000 What's a leftist's favorite exercises?
02:15:58.000 Jumping to conclusions, moving goal posts, and carrying the weight of their oppression.
02:16:03.000 Like, I wouldn't call it good, but I'm like, you know, it's kind of clever.
02:16:07.000 It's definitely a boomer joke.
02:16:08.000 Right.
02:16:09.000 One of those long meme forms you see.
02:16:14.000 Yeah, I don't know.
02:16:16.000 I do think the AI can make passive.
02:16:20.000 This is not even a joke.
02:16:22.000 Why do leftists love socialism?
02:16:24.000 Because from each according to his ability doesn't apply to them, and to each according to his need always does.
02:16:30.000 That's just kind of true.
02:16:31.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:16:32.000 I mean, you know, the core of the world.
02:16:34.000 Well, the best jokes are.
02:16:35.000 Yeah, have a seed of truth in them, right?
02:16:37.000 That's it.
02:16:39.000 How many leftists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
02:16:42.000 None.
02:16:43.000 Electricity is a product of Western colonialism.
02:16:46.000 So, we should sit in the dark and blame capitalism.
02:16:48.000 This actually sounds like something you would hear for like clapture at a comedy club.
02:16:52.000 Oh, I know.
02:16:52.000 Why won't leftists play chess?
02:16:55.000 Because the white pieces go first. 1.00
02:16:56.000 That's actually true, though.
02:16:57.000 Yeah.
02:16:57.000 Yeah.
02:16:58.000 It comes from the.
02:16:58.000 Complained about that.
02:16:59.000 They have complained about that.
02:17:00.000 More as ever.
02:17:01.000 Yeah, there used to be hot take think pieces about that. 1.00
02:17:04.000 Like in our house, black goes first. 1.00
02:17:07.000 Your move. 1.00
02:17:09.000 That's all I'm going to say. 1.00
02:17:10.000 If everyone's black. 1.00
02:17:11.000 I'll make all the pieces black and be like, good luck. 1.00
02:17:11.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:17:14.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:17:15.000 21st century, bitch. 1.00
02:17:17.000 This is a totally different subject. 1.00
02:17:18.000 Have you guys heard anything?
02:17:20.000 There's rumblings in a lot of Twitter accounts saying that Russia is doing similar moves in the Northwest that they were doing outside of Ukraine for the invasion.
02:17:31.000 What's Northwest?
02:17:31.000 I was talking about Canada?
02:17:32.000 By the Oblast, Kaliningrad.
02:17:36.000 So you're saying they're preparing for a northern invasion to Kiev or something?
02:17:39.000 No, no.
02:17:40.000 Oh, to like the Northwest.
02:17:41.000 Yeah, Northwest of Russia.
02:17:43.000 Not the Northwest of Ukraine.
02:17:43.000 Oh.
02:17:44.000 And there were, Poland is saying they think that Russia's up to stuff.
02:17:48.000 There were air raid sirens in Poland today.
02:17:50.000 There were some posted a video of it.
02:17:52.000 Didn't they bomb a train near Poland and Boris Johnson had to evacuate?
02:17:55.000 I don't know for sure, but I'm just kind of finding out about this, like the severity of the or the frequency of the arguments and stuff like that right now.
02:18:06.000 People are saying the Russian military could conduct air missile drone strikes or a limited ground incursion against one or more Baltic states to test and seek to break NATO's resolve to invoke Article 5 and respond effectively on its base.
02:18:18.000 Didn't Ukraine also send a missile to Poland?
02:18:22.000 This was like months and months and months ago.
02:18:24.000 Yes.
02:18:24.000 Ukraine?
02:18:25.000 It was a misfire or something.
02:18:26.000 They landed on Russia.
02:18:28.000 They said Russia had attacked Poland.
02:18:30.000 This was almost a year ago.
02:18:32.000 Okay, I got one.
02:18:33.000 What's the difference between a leftist and a tapeworm?
02:18:36.000 What's the difference between a leftist and a tapeworm? 0.73
02:18:41.000 Both need to be surgically extracted.
02:18:41.000 Nothing.
02:18:44.000 It looks like when I asked AI.
02:18:46.000 Some of these aren't even jokes.
02:18:48.000 Like tell a leftist that their favorite authoritarian had concentration camps and watch them complain about how that's different.
02:18:56.000 Like, that's just what they do.
02:18:58.000 That's a joke.
02:18:58.000 Did you tell the original one to be super offensive, or did it just?
02:19:01.000 Yes.
02:19:02.000 I said, make me a very offensive joke.
02:19:04.000 Did you have to, like, kind of goad it into doing it, or was it a. 0.96
02:19:10.000 Why do leftists make terrible surgeons?
02:19:14.000 Because all they do is remove the healthy body part, they don't put them back. 1.00
02:19:19.000 That's kind of fucked up. 0.98
02:19:22.000 Took me a second to make the connection, but yeah. 0.99
02:19:27.000 No more leftists and rightists for me.
02:19:29.000 I can't.
02:19:31.000 Chairman Mao, he's going to call him Emperor Mao.
02:19:33.000 He used to talk about how bad the rightists were.
02:19:35.000 The rightists?
02:19:36.000 Yeah, he went after the rightists.
02:19:38.000 That was the communist movement targeting the rightists. 0.99
02:19:41.000 Once they can get you to divide people into right and left, then they can totalitarian your ass. 0.98
02:19:47.000 I think the right still does a very good job communicating with the left, or at least we try to. 1.00
02:19:50.000 These are fucked up. 0.99
02:19:52.000 How do you save a drowning leftist? 1.00
02:19:54.000 You don't.
02:19:55.000 You don't.
02:20:01.000 You don't.
02:20:04.000 Jeez. 0.76
02:20:06.000 Toss him rock. 1.00
02:20:07.000 Some of them are really dumb. 1.00
02:20:09.000 What's a leftist's favorite music? 1.00
02:20:11.000 The sound of their own voice explaining why everyone else is a problem?
02:20:15.000 Can you tell it to write like 30 and then rank them by funniest?
02:20:20.000 Yeah, but.
02:20:21.000 You wouldn't know?
02:20:22.000 Yeah, I don't know.
02:20:23.000 I wonder if it would.
02:20:24.000 Can you give it words to you, like, you must use these words?
02:20:27.000 I said, just make a super offensive joke about leftists.
02:20:29.000 And I just keep telling it more when it gives me four.
02:20:32.000 God, even it's afraid of making super offensive jokes against leftists. 0.99
02:20:35.000 It knows they attack and shoot you.
02:20:39.000 Yeah, it's some of these are really bad.
02:20:40.000 It's guarded.
02:20:42.000 This is where we're talking about giving your common man full AI, AGI capability to write and create child porn or the funniest leftist joke or schematics to a nuclear bomb.
02:20:53.000 Like, I'm kind of into giving people the tech because who else is going to get it?
02:20:59.000 Like, if everybody can't have it, I mean, I understand.
02:21:01.000 Oh my God.
02:21:02.000 You don't give everyone access to the ultimate weapon, but I told it to be more offensive.
02:21:07.000 What's the difference between a leftist and a pedophile?
02:21:07.000 Oh no.
02:21:11.000 What?
02:21:12.000 Come on, it's easy.
02:21:13.000 Thing.
02:21:13.000 Yeah.
02:21:13.000 Nothing.
02:21:18.000 Oh my God.
02:21:21.000 All right.
02:21:21.000 One last run.
02:21:23.000 One last go.
02:21:25.000 One last go.
02:21:26.000 Then we'll get our call in. 1.00
02:21:28.000 Because leftists is a nebulous political ideology. 0.77
02:21:30.000 We're allowed to make fun of them no matter how bad the jokes are.
02:21:32.000 It's true.
02:21:33.000 It's true.
02:21:34.000 In fact, it's encouraged. 0.89
02:21:36.000 We should mock them, meme them until they cry, and then mock them and meme them for crying. 0.91
02:21:42.000 Yes.
02:21:43.000 You can't let them stand back up.
02:21:44.000 I mean, that really is.
02:21:47.000 Again, the whole midterm thing is like people got to go vote.
02:21:50.000 I mean, I'm disillusioned with a handful of things.
02:21:52.000 I'm very much a non interventionist.
02:21:54.000 I don't like what's going on with the war.
02:21:56.000 You know, I've got my oldest joining the military, so we're obviously, you know, nervous about that, but he's going into a good career.
02:22:02.000 It's going to be fine.
02:22:03.000 But, you know, we talked about gas prices, home prices, but again, what is the alternative?
02:22:09.000 And, you know, when I was young, the thought always used to be, you know, well, it's just two sides of the same coin.
02:22:14.000 But, I mean, they really have separated themselves from.
02:22:16.000 Yeah.
02:22:17.000 From even a baseline of civility.
02:22:20.000 There are people that are very convinced that, you know, this administration is just as bad as the Democrats or that there is, quote unquote, the uniparty.
02:22:30.000 I totally reject that idea.
02:22:32.000 The border would not be the same.
02:22:34.000 The immigration situation would not be the same.
02:22:37.000 We wouldn't have the efforts to deport people.
02:22:40.000 And I know there are a lot of people that are saying they haven't deported enough. 0.89
02:22:43.000 And fair enough, I don't have a problem with the idea of deporting more people because there are plenty more people that are here illegally.
02:22:51.000 But like, The idea that we would have had any of this had there been a Kamala Harris administration, come on.
02:22:58.000 We're going to get callers.
02:22:59.000 We got VIP first.
02:23:00.000 What's up?
02:23:01.000 What's up?
02:23:05.000 What is this?
02:23:05.000 You might be muted.
02:23:07.000 Hey, you.
02:23:08.000 There you are.
02:23:10.000 Yes.
02:23:10.000 Thank you.
02:23:10.000 Awesome.
02:23:11.000 Actually, I don't know why it says VIP.
02:23:13.000 It's salty back of nuts.
02:23:15.000 Oh, and real quick, I got to read this one joke because this one I just said it's not offensive.
02:23:20.000 You're not good enough.
02:23:21.000 So.
02:23:23.000 Okay, it just went for it. 1.00
02:23:24.000 What's the difference between a leftist and a piece of shit? 1.00
02:23:27.000 What? 1.00
02:23:28.000 Nothing.
02:23:28.000 There you go.
02:23:30.000 There you go.
02:23:33.000 Straight into the point.
02:23:34.000 That smells better. 1.00
02:23:36.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00
02:23:37.000 That one was pretty good. 1.00
02:23:39.000 Like, it just, just calling him a piece of shit. 1.00
02:23:42.000 Anyway, brother, what's going on? 0.99
02:23:45.000 So I wanted to ask Adam this question.
02:23:45.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:23:50.000 Running for political office is kind of a strain on the family.
02:23:54.000 I've seen it firsthand.
02:23:55.000 I did 10 years VIP security.
02:23:58.000 With Arnold Schwarzenegger.
02:23:59.000 I live in Sacramento.
02:24:01.000 And I kind of saw a lot of stuff, and time away from the family was particularly the roughest one.
02:24:08.000 For you, what was the hardest thing for you and your family to deal with?
02:24:15.000 Well, we dealt with a lot of the same stuff after January 6th.
02:24:19.000 You know, the negative press.
02:24:20.000 I think we had north of 46 local articles come out against me, just telling a local run that I'm a terrible person.
02:24:27.000 So we kind of.
02:24:28.000 Had our feet wet from that before.
02:24:31.000 I think the hardest thing would probably be it was we lost a summer with the kids.
02:24:36.000 We typically travel with the kids during the summer.
02:24:38.000 We were all over the country with them and do like a big, you know, road trip.
02:24:41.000 But because of the campaign, we took the summer off and we were knocking doors and making phone calls.
02:24:45.000 So it's a summer I can't get back, but it was a summer we invested in our community and we learned a lot and we were happy to have the experience.
02:24:56.000 Yeah, you're going to do it again?
02:25:00.000 Well, currently in my county, we have two commissioners now telling.
02:25:05.000 So we have all Republicans seated right now for county commissioners.
02:25:09.000 Two of them are telling people to vote Democrat now across the board, both locally and at a state level, which is just insane to me.
02:25:17.000 And we have, in my district specifically, the I don't want to call them the Kingmakers, give them too much power, but the majority of them that are calling themselves conservatives and Republicans are telling people in mass across the entire community to also vote Democrat.
02:25:34.000 So, our district is very interesting.
02:25:37.000 It remains to be seen.
02:25:39.000 I'm going to stay active and involved locally, make sure that I show up to some meetings and know what's going on.
02:25:44.000 But outside of that, too soon to tell.
02:25:49.000 Yeah, I understand.
02:25:50.000 Being with family is probably the single most important thing.
02:25:56.000 Didn't sound like a no to me.
02:25:58.000 Yep. 0.99
02:25:58.000 But in the meantime, I just finished a Northeast Capitol tour with the wife. 0.99
02:26:02.000 We hit seven capitals in six days.
02:26:05.000 I've got a.
02:26:06.000 Let's see.
02:26:07.000 We did Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, and.
02:26:15.000 You skipped New York?
02:26:16.000 I did skip New York.
02:26:17.000 Albany, it's right there.
02:26:18.000 We're going to spend a week in New York, probably next year or the year after.
02:26:22.000 Cool.
02:26:22.000 Yeah, but I've got a range event out in Texas next month with Texas Gun Rights.
02:26:22.000 Okay.
02:26:27.000 I believe Ken Paxton's going to be out there along with Brandon Herrera.
02:26:30.000 I'm sporting the hoodie.
02:26:32.000 If you're in Texas 23, vote for him.
02:26:34.000 And then December, I have a.
02:26:36.000 In November, there's another range event.
02:26:38.000 So staying active, having fun.
02:26:40.000 Filling my time with shooting guns and doing jujitsu.
02:26:43.000 Busy guy, busy guy.
02:26:45.000 Nice.
02:26:48.000 Well, that's about it.
02:26:49.000 Got anything you want to add?
02:26:54.000 Yeah, shout out to the Discord.
02:26:56.000 It's my first day actually getting on it, and they walked me through everything, it was pretty awesome.
02:27:01.000 So I'm going to do more of that.
02:27:03.000 And then I wanted to get a shout out to my wife.
02:27:05.000 Yesterday was our anniversary, 27 years ago, we had a birthday. 0.99
02:27:11.000 Dude, that's incredible.
02:27:13.000 27 years is quite the accomplishment.
02:27:15.000 We just celebrated 15 this year.
02:27:16.000 So we'll never catch up with you, hopefully.
02:27:19.000 So keep at it.
02:27:20.000 Go ahead, man.
02:27:21.000 Awesome.
02:27:21.000 Run on, brother.
02:27:22.000 Yeah, I'm doing this thing called Superdad with Adam Devine, the actor.
02:27:26.000 Ace Hardware is putting it on, and you get votes.
02:27:29.000 And it's called yoursuperdad.org.
02:27:32.000 So if anybody wants to give me a free vote, it's currently in fifth place.
02:27:37.000 Adam Devine from Workaholics?
02:27:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:27:41.000 He's a really good guy, quietly conservative.
02:27:45.000 Yeah, he's hilarious.
02:27:46.000 Loves work.
02:27:48.000 Yeah.
02:27:49.000 Love the fact that Ace Hardware is putting on, you know, promoting family.
02:27:49.000 Cool, man.
02:27:53.000 Yeah.
02:27:54.000 Right on.
02:27:57.000 Hey, you two.
02:27:57.000 Anything else?
02:27:58.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:27:59.000 Thank you, man.
02:28:01.000 Next up, we got Cinemoney, AK.
02:28:01.000 All right.
02:28:05.000 Yo, what up? 0.95
02:28:06.000 What up, Cinemoney?
02:28:07.000 I just got a quick question for Adam there.
02:28:11.000 Back when you stole the lectern, were you as upset as I am that they didn't report you as Florida Man?
02:28:16.000 Or were there any particular articles that they put out about?
02:28:19.000 That really stuck out.
02:28:21.000 There were a couple that actually did call me Florida Man.
02:28:24.000 Via Getty.
02:28:24.000 Yeah, Via Getty was the initial moniker.
02:28:27.000 Yeah.
02:28:28.000 Let's see.
02:28:29.000 Ones that stood out.
02:28:30.000 There was one in particular.
02:28:32.000 There was a photographer who was Canadian, but kind of dual citizen.
02:28:35.000 I was down in Florida.
02:28:37.000 I'd never met this man in my life, but he is one of the ones who reported me to the FBI, saying things like my wife and I were having financial issues and we were getting ready to go through a divorce. 0.60
02:28:46.000 So completely lied to the FBI completely to just kind of shit talk me online. 0.99
02:28:53.000 Dick. 1.00
02:28:53.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:28:54.000 There were publications that reported you as being named Via Getty.
02:28:58.000 Yes.
02:28:58.000 Yes.
02:28:58.000 Yes.
02:29:00.000 Yes.
02:29:01.000 Getty is, for those that don't know, a photo provider.
02:29:06.000 I think they do video too.
02:29:07.000 Getty Images.
02:29:08.000 But so, yeah, Getty Images.
02:29:09.000 So you'll see on a photograph the images from Getty.
02:29:13.000 So it'll show a picture of like a dog at a lake and it'll say Via Getty. 1.00
02:29:18.000 But these people are dumb as shit. 1.00
02:29:20.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:29:20.000 So when they put Via Getty, they thought it was a name. 1.00
02:29:24.000 They called him Via Getty.
02:29:26.000 Yep.
02:29:26.000 Great name.
02:29:27.000 Yeah, that's pretty dumb. 0.99
02:29:27.000 There were also a handful of articles that when they first came out, they said were. 0.99
02:29:32.000 Where my wife was working, like where her place of business is.
02:29:36.000 And there were multiple death threats that came in that I hire personal private security to basically watch the building for weeks.
02:29:43.000 So that was not great.
02:29:45.000 They soft doxed me by saying the neighborhood that I live in.
02:29:48.000 That's rude.
02:29:49.000 Which also will let you know where my kids go to school.
02:29:51.000 Yeah, that's horrible.
02:29:52.000 So, yeah, not great stuff.
02:29:54.000 But, you know, our family's very strong.
02:29:56.000 We have very good communication and we prayed together and we got through it.
02:30:03.000 Good stuff.
02:30:04.000 Got anything you want to add or follow ups?
02:30:07.000 Yeah.
02:30:08.000 Follow up question for Ian.
02:30:09.000 What would it take for you to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior?
02:30:14.000 Oh, I don't know.
02:30:17.000 Some weird new evidence of like scientific tactile evidence that I could start to put that correlate that with my worldview.
02:30:27.000 But I don't know.
02:30:30.000 It's like just about as much as it would take to get me to think that Muhammad was my Lord and Savior or that Allah was or whatever.
02:30:30.000 It'd be weird.
02:30:43.000 Well, he's waiting for you.
02:30:45.000 That's all I got.
02:30:46.000 Thank you guys, and you put on a hell of a show.
02:30:48.000 All right.
02:30:48.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:30:49.000 Thanks for calling in, bud.
02:30:51.000 All right.
02:30:52.000 Next up, we've got Willie Wayne.
02:30:54.000 What up, Willie?
02:30:55.000 What is going on?
02:30:57.000 How's it going?
02:30:57.000 Hey, guys.
02:30:58.000 Going well.
02:30:59.000 Yeah.
02:30:59.000 I feel like deeply emotional after the last question.
02:31:02.000 Got you thinking.
02:31:03.000 I mean, feeling.
02:31:06.000 Well, hey, man, make sure you contemplate that.
02:31:07.000 It's important.
02:31:09.000 Tears in my eyes, bro.
02:31:12.000 So, my question is for the crew.
02:31:15.000 It's more of a kind of let me get y'all's opinion on this.
02:31:18.000 In lieu of tariffs, what do y'all think about weaponizing intellectual property rights and like patents?
02:31:25.000 So, say for instance, Apple doesn't want to manufacture in the U.S. If you don't want to ensure manufacturing, we're going to open up your patents and anyone in the U.S. can create an iPhone or whatever.
02:31:40.000 No, I think that's a terrible idea.
02:31:44.000 I thought about it.
02:31:45.000 Why is that a bad idea?
02:31:45.000 Why?
02:31:46.000 Well, one of the reasons is because the actual investment that goes into creating these things, the time that it takes to develop them and stuff.
02:31:58.000 If you open up the, if you don't manufacture in the United States and you say, well, we can't get a patent, people just won't create things because they're like, well, why are we going to invest?
02:32:08.000 That's one of the problems when it comes to like, you know, people that are upset with drug companies, right?
02:32:13.000 They spend billions of dollars.
02:32:14.000 I was just, yep.
02:32:17.000 Yeah, the reason they do it is because they can sell it at a price that'll pay back all the investment.
02:32:25.000 Yeah.
02:32:26.000 So, yeah, drugs are expensive when they come out and stuff.
02:32:28.000 They have whatever 10 year patent or whatever.
02:32:30.000 So, they have 10 years to make back all the money they invested and whatever they can make for a profit.
02:32:38.000 So, you'll just end up having people not innovating, you'll have people not creating.
02:32:44.000 Well, I know that the US makes, I want to say a little over 90% of all pharmaceuticals, like at least creates them, invents them, studies them, researches them.
02:32:52.000 I think India is what actually makes them, but the resources come from China.
02:32:55.000 So it's kind of like this pyramid.
02:32:57.000 We all kind of work together in pharmaceuticals.
02:32:59.000 But what happens out of this is that these other countries then get access to our medications and they just reverse engineer them because you can do that through a handful of chemistry tools and then they just make them.
02:33:12.000 So we're losing a lot of our dollars up front in the pharmaceuticals, which drives our cost up.
02:33:17.000 Yeah.
02:33:19.000 Yeah.
02:33:20.000 So pharmaceuticals are an easy example, but you'll see that across the market.
02:33:27.000 People won't invent things.
02:33:28.000 If they can't make, they won't invest in inventing things, things that take time and effort and research and trial and error and stuff.
02:33:36.000 People won't invest in these things and create new things if they're not going to get a return.
02:33:42.000 So I think it's a bad idea because you take away the market motivation.
02:33:48.000 I take a look, I guess maybe a counter opinion that you can still make a lot with open patent without patenting your stuff.
02:33:54.000 I'm looking at Elon Musk, literally reading this right now.
02:33:57.000 He publicly states that patents are for the weak.
02:33:59.000 And that his companies, particularly SpaceX, generally do not use them, preferring to compete through speed and engineering talent.
02:34:05.000 I've noticed that with video games.
02:34:05.000 It's a half term.
02:34:06.000 Every time I release my code, it's going to be done and I'm going to be making the next game.
02:34:10.000 That's not why he's lying.
02:34:11.000 The reason they don't use patents is because it makes it so that China can see what he does.
02:34:14.000 Exactly. 0.52
02:34:15.000 Once you write it down, now it's documented and it's easier to steal for another reason for free. 0.78
02:34:20.000 He can sue Americans and Europeans, but China will just take it instantly.
02:34:24.000 He'd be giving away his tech.
02:34:26.000 That's wild.
02:34:27.000 And even like, so maybe Musk has that.
02:34:31.000 Has that view, but Musk is like one in a seven billion kind of people.
02:34:36.000 Like the average venture capitalist is going to say, I'm not giving my money away.
02:34:41.000 And also, he's not working on pharmaceuticals.
02:34:43.000 Like there are industries where maybe patents would be a lot more helpful for shorts because it would be really easy to re engineer a pharmaceutical relative to a rocket ship.
02:34:50.000 I think it's a terrible idea.
02:34:51.000 And I think you'll, you would have a significant pullback of venture capitalists investing in companies and investing in possible technologies if there was no patent.
02:35:02.000 They'd be like, well, how am I going to make my money back as soon as it gets done?
02:35:04.000 You know, people are just going to start making it.
02:35:06.000 Some company's going to copy it.
02:35:08.000 What was your initial question for the caller?
02:35:11.000 What was it like?
02:35:12.000 What was the criteria that would have to be met for you to consider?
02:35:15.000 We're asking if we would just have to be manufactured in the United States.
02:35:18.000 Yeah.
02:35:19.000 So if it's not manufactured in the United States, then you don't have a U.S. patent.
02:35:22.000 What if it's like parts of it?
02:35:24.000 Like, didn't Apple move their glass?
02:35:27.000 Aren't they doing their glass in Kentucky now?
02:35:29.000 I'm not sure.
02:35:31.000 I think Samsung was actually making iPhone glass for a while.
02:35:35.000 Well, I think iPhone just switched recently.
02:35:38.000 Trump announced it that they were going to start making their glass in Kentucky.
02:35:41.000 Remember, there was like a whole ceremony.
02:35:44.000 I know there's a lot of ceremonies.
02:35:45.000 He's a very ceremonial guy.
02:35:47.000 Who doesn't like cutting ribbons?
02:35:48.000 Who doesn't like that?
02:35:50.000 But he got a special glass plaque.
02:35:52.000 It was like a whole thing.
02:35:53.000 Yes, it is making all cover glass for its iPhone and Apple watch products in Kentucky as of August of 25.
02:35:59.000 That's great things.
02:36:00.000 I think that's great.
02:36:01.000 That's huge.
02:36:02.000 It's huge.
02:36:03.000 So I would say, you know, if something like that were to happen, Apple's doing a bunch of stuff in the U.S. They're working on it.
02:36:11.000 And I think they're also working on making other Mac Minis here.
02:36:15.000 Oh.
02:36:16.000 Did I see that somewhere?
02:36:17.000 I feel like that flitted past my attention at one point.
02:36:20.000 I know HK is now going to make their own firearms stateside.
02:36:23.000 How about that?
02:36:24.000 Which is fantastic.
02:36:25.000 All weapons should be made in the United States.
02:36:27.000 It's going to circumvent a lot of gun laws coming over here, which is going to be great. 0.62
02:36:30.000 Yeah, Apple's manufacturing the Mac Mini in the United States for the first time.
02:36:33.000 Yeah, so that's pretty cool.
02:36:36.000 That's at a Foxconn facility in Houston, Texas later this year.
02:36:38.000 They're going to start assembly.
02:36:40.000 Yeah, I'm glad about that.
02:36:41.000 I think that's one thing that I think Trump doesn't get enough credit for, in addition to a lot of other things, because, you know, the war sort of overtook everything, made everything look bad.
02:36:51.000 But he has brought a lot of manufacturing back. 0.90
02:36:54.000 Is that the M5.
02:36:55.000 I'm sorry to interrupt what you're saying? 0.99
02:36:56.000 No, I just think that's a good thing.
02:36:58.000 Like, I'm happy about that.
02:36:59.000 I would, like, I frequently will try and buy stuff and I'll be like, is there a version of this that is made in the United States?
02:37:06.000 Oh, there is not.
02:37:07.000 And that is so maddening.
02:37:09.000 Like, can't wait.
02:37:09.000 Like, I just want to buy American made stuff.
02:37:13.000 And what I was being, it's about what we're manufacturing, too, because the Apple, the Mac Mini has a, what's the M5 chip is the new, the M5 Pro.
02:37:20.000 It has onboard AI.
02:37:21.000 And what I've been told that everyone will finally have like a local agentic AI that you don't need to worry about a central system altering.
02:37:28.000 So Apple's kind of pioneering that, which is like, Should be like a human defense or right to self defense on the internet is having your own AI to be able to navigate what the code means and what if it's real or not.
02:37:40.000 Great, American made products are better, they are.
02:37:44.000 They are.
02:37:44.000 I'm happy with this.
02:37:45.000 How, yeah, you know what I hate too is remember they stopped letting us have American made incandescent light bulbs.
02:37:51.000 Remember that?
02:37:52.000 And so it's like all my light bulbs, all my incandescent light bulbs are like from Hungary or Mexico or something, and they burn out way fast.
02:38:00.000 This is it.
02:38:00.000 So I think we're sold the idea.
02:38:02.000 So I'm on like my third, uh, Third washing machine across six years.
02:38:06.000 Now, granted, that's too many washing machines.
02:38:09.000 But the price to repair them with the parts is just, I'm just going to go buy a new washing machine.
02:38:14.000 Like everything is disposable.
02:38:15.000 And I think we sold it to ourselves that, you know, I'm saving money by buying the cheap washing machine.
02:38:20.000 I can just buy a new one if I need to.
02:38:21.000 But if you invest in a quality product, it lasts.
02:38:24.000 Well, no, the issue is that manufacturing is automated and repair is specific.
02:38:29.000 Right.
02:38:30.000 So this means when they're making the washing machine, the robot arms just stick them all together and it's done and it's cheap.
02:38:35.000 But to have a human come in and diagnose the unique, specific broken issue is expensive.
02:38:40.000 So that's why repairing costs more.
02:38:43.000 So we'll just buy the automatic stuff, throw the whole washer into the kiln, into the crucible, and then down.
02:38:51.000 A good solution to that is the open source ecology movement.
02:38:55.000 Martian Jakubowski, I think is how you say his last name, but he decided all the farm equipment, huge industry, and they had like a lock on it.
02:39:02.000 They'd sell you these $50,000, $150,000, $500,000 cars.
02:39:05.000 So this is the whole right to repair thing?
02:39:06.000 Thing.
02:39:07.000 Trump's been pioneering that too.
02:39:08.000 It's along those lines specifically because they would sell you a half a million dollar tractor and then they'd charge you whatever they wanted because they're the only ones that could fix it.
02:39:15.000 Right.
02:39:15.000 And they would have like a special code and it would say what the code is, but they wouldn't tell you what the code signified and you couldn't fix it yourself.
02:39:21.000 Yeah.
02:39:22.000 And the tractors are like $400,000.
02:39:23.000 Marcy McCart is as well. 1.00
02:39:24.000 Fuck this. 0.99
02:39:25.000 He identified the biggest 18 main machines you would use to run a farm and he shows people schematically how to build them. 1.00
02:39:32.000 He shows you piece by piece, part by part, metal by metal.
02:39:34.000 Yeah.
02:39:35.000 So you can build your own and maintain your own.
02:39:37.000 But yeah, Trump just recently signed a whole, I'm pretty sure, a whole right to repair thing.
02:39:41.000 And it had to do with John Deere specifically, which was selling these pieces of farm equipment and then making it so nobody could repair them.
02:39:50.000 And also, their repair tech wouldn't come out.
02:39:52.000 So then your crops are just like dying on the vine, rotting.
02:39:56.000 Like then what?
02:39:57.000 My wife hit a deer with one of my last Armada, and it broke three of the front sensors, right, for the car.
02:40:04.000 And the sensors themselves were not very expensive.
02:40:07.000 They're like $6 or $7 a piece, you know, off of eBay.
02:40:10.000 I plugged them right in, good to go, but they have to be reset.
02:40:13.000 And the only way to reset them is to take them to an Nissan dealership that has some $50,000 machine that can just reset them for you.
02:40:19.000 You can't just take it to a mechanic and have it reset, which is ridiculous.
02:40:23.000 It's a $7 part.
02:40:24.000 Yeah, that's crazy.
02:40:25.000 You were right, Libby.
02:40:26.000 It's directly June 29th, Trump issued the Freedom to Fix memorandum.
02:40:31.000 Yeah.
02:40:31.000 And then on July 8th, John Deere agreed to a 10 year settlement where they were going to give independent repair shops access to the same diagnostic software tools, manuals.
02:40:42.000 That's.
02:40:42.000 Freaking awesome.
02:40:43.000 That's great.
02:40:43.000 But that's the patent thing, right?
02:40:45.000 I mean, I own my car.
02:40:47.000 I own all the sensors in it.
02:40:48.000 I bought that car.
02:40:49.000 There's no car payments.
02:40:50.000 That's my property.
02:40:51.000 I should be able to work on my car and not have to take it to Nissan to have it recalibrated for sensors.
02:40:55.000 I should be able to take that anywhere.
02:40:57.000 Isn't there a Mercedes where the person who owns the car can't even open the hood?
02:41:01.000 You have to take it to the dealership to open the hood.
02:41:05.000 There might be.
02:41:05.000 I know BMW was toying with the idea of having monthly services for things like heated seats.
02:41:12.000 Oh my God.
02:41:13.000 Uh huh.
02:41:14.000 Uh huh.
02:41:14.000 Wait.
02:41:15.000 You mean like subscriptions?
02:41:16.000 Like subscriptions.
02:41:17.000 I mean, in modern actuals, you get a subscription to the radio.
02:41:20.000 I never agree with that, though.
02:41:22.000 Like, they give it to you for like a certain amount of months, and I don't care about it.
02:41:25.000 I hate that. 0.99
02:41:25.000 Like, once I buy something, I don't want to keep paying you fucking money for the thing I fucking just bought. 0.99
02:41:30.000 Oh, that's a. 0.99
02:41:31.000 Oh, my God.
02:41:31.000 I'm so mad.
02:41:32.000 Ian, for the game, subscription.
02:41:35.000 You don't get weapons.
02:41:36.000 It's a free game, but if you want to be able to get a weapon, the weapons are all a dollar a month.
02:41:40.000 So, like, if you want to use the knife, the sword, it's a dollar a month for the sword.
02:41:43.000 This is why you're a rich man.
02:41:45.000 I live in a little tiny house.
02:41:48.000 How about I include in the game for $29.99 you can get the Scepter of Divine Might, which has triple the firepower.
02:41:58.000 But the monsters have triple the hit points.
02:42:01.000 You pay for nothing.
02:42:02.000 It's too easy.
02:42:03.000 You don't want to be too easy.
02:42:04.000 Actually, that's a really good idea to put in the game as a gag.
02:42:07.000 It's like for $999.99, you get the staff of ultimate divine power, and it gives your guy the ability to shoot 10 times the power.
02:42:18.000 But also, any monster within its beautiful divine radius is empowered.
02:42:23.000 Any being within its radius is empowered by 10 times.
02:42:26.000 So it just does nothing.
02:42:28.000 The magnitude of it all.
02:42:31.000 Literally, magnitude means times 10.
02:42:33.000 Joe.
02:42:34.000 You want to add anything to that, brother?
02:42:38.000 No, that took a lot of turns there.
02:42:40.000 I wasn't expecting.
02:42:42.000 Sorry.
02:42:45.000 That's what happens.
02:42:47.000 That's what happens when you call in.
02:42:49.000 Yeah.
02:42:49.000 Hey, it was a great conversation around intellectual property rights, though.
02:42:52.000 And I think the Mercedes that you can't open the hood on, I think that was specifically made for women. 0.96
02:42:58.000 It was the EQS and the EQE. 1.00
02:43:01.000 I can open the hood on my Subaru.
02:43:03.000 It's the Mercedes EQS, EQE are designed to restrict customer access to the hood.
02:43:06.000 I mean, you can always open the hood if you really wanted to.
02:43:09.000 No, you can't.
02:43:10.000 You have to take it to the dealer to get it open.
02:43:12.000 Only qualified specialists should open them, it says.
02:43:15.000 Yeah.
02:43:15.000 Manual says that.
02:43:16.000 Which makes you wonder how do you put in new coolant or whatever, the windshield wiper fluid?
02:43:22.000 I mean, you can't change your own oil.
02:43:24.000 That seems kind of bogus.
02:43:26.000 Yeah, find a way to open the hood.
02:43:27.000 Right?
02:43:27.000 My blinker fluid's my own blinker fluid.
02:43:29.000 But then once you open the hood, like if you find a way to open the hood, suddenly you're voiding all the warranties and blah, blah, blah.
02:43:36.000 Just like. 0.99
02:43:36.000 If you fuck with your phone, you know, this is to protect it against high voltage components, right? 0.99
02:43:42.000 Yeah, okay, yeah. 0.99
02:43:45.000 So, got anything you want to add?
02:43:50.000 I'm just circling back.
02:43:51.000 No, no, I think I'm good.
02:43:53.000 If you're driving around a car with like a man, you want to shout anything out?
02:43:57.000 Yes, sir, I would absolutely love to shout out our Saturday night poker tournament at 7 p.m. Central Time.
02:44:03.000 We are still waiting on Tim to come and show his poker prowess.
02:44:08.000 And also, I would like to request that I be on the show post November 3rd after I win my election because I'll argue with anyone about anything.
02:44:17.000 Where do you guys play poker?
02:44:19.000 How do you do it?
02:44:21.000 It's on the Discord.
02:44:22.000 They share a Poker Now link right at 7 p.m. Central.
02:44:28.000 We all get on there and it's a point system.
02:44:31.000 We're not playing with money, but it's a point system.
02:44:32.000 We got a tournament coming up here at the end of the year.
02:44:35.000 All right.
02:44:36.000 I mean, I might be here because I think.
02:44:38.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.
02:44:39.000 I'm flying out.
02:44:39.000 I'm not going to be here at all.
02:44:41.000 Oh, well.
02:44:42.000 I'm out of town.
02:44:42.000 I'm not going to be here Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday next week.
02:44:46.000 Big interviews, big meetings, big work, but we'll figure it out at some point.
02:44:52.000 Appreciate the invite.
02:44:53.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:44:55.000 See you.
02:44:55.000 Absolutely.
02:44:55.000 Thanks, you guys.
02:44:56.000 Yeah.
02:44:56.000 Take care.
02:44:57.000 Have a good one, bud.
02:45:00.000 Adam, always fun to have you.
02:45:01.000 Yeah.
02:45:02.000 Anytime.
02:45:02.000 How's it?
02:45:03.000 All right.
02:45:03.000 Tomorrow's going to be just absolutely fucking nuts because we've got Dave, the Flat Earth guy, Tony Merkel, Alex Stein all on the same show.
02:45:11.000 That's a lot of show. 0.92
02:45:12.000 That's a lot of show.
02:45:13.000 Yeah.
02:45:13.000 It's going to be funny when, like, Tony, Alex, and Dave are arguing over the depth of Flat Earth, but they all agree on, like, they're like, it's like when we had the Orthodox versus Catholic debate and they're like yelling at each other, but, like, as far as I can tell, it's largely.
02:45:28.000 Like they're saying similar things? 0.92
02:45:29.000 I pretty much agree.
02:45:30.000 It's just they have a different decision about when Easter is.
02:45:33.000 That's like the.
02:45:34.000 Yeah.
02:45:35.000 So having Tony, Dave, and Alex on, it's going to be funny when Alex is like, You think the earth is flat, not convex? 0.96
02:45:41.000 Are you nuts?
02:45:42.000 Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody. 0.89
02:45:44.000 We'll see you all tomorrow.