Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 02, 2026


NY AG To Open CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION Into Cornell 7 | Timcast IRL

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00:01:00.000 Governor Kathy Hochul has announced she's going to be appointing a special prosecutor, Leticia James, to the Cornell allegation story, despite the fact that all of the records we have now, including a statement from the alleged victim, shows that it was entirely consensual.
00:01:17.000 This story has been blown up because Me Too is back.
00:01:20.000 But we've got a wave of stories about women who are arguing they have no responsibility because they have no agency.
00:01:27.000 I'm not joking.
00:01:28.000 Calm down.
00:01:29.000 I'm not being mean. 1.00
00:01:30.000 We got one lady who murdered her kid.
00:01:32.000 Another story. 1.00
00:01:33.000 Because she lost custody. 1.00
00:01:34.000 Another lady murdered her kids because she's crazy, I guess.
00:01:38.000 You've got this woman in the Cornell story saying that even though she consented to everything, even though the men asked her if she felt uncomfortable and told her they would stop, she's still saying, but it doesn't matter because she has no agency because she's effectively a child. 0.77
00:01:53.000 Now, that was me being mean.
00:01:54.000 But Kathy Hochul's arguing that becoming voluntarily intoxicated doesn't mean consent, which would mean, and this is where it gets crazy.
00:02:05.000 According to statements that are being rumored, they may be, and I've seen these posts all over the place.
00:02:10.000 Some of the men in question are now accusing the Cornell woman of raping them because they said while they all agreed to do drugs, she initiated the adult activities that they did not want and even told her to stop. 0.99
00:02:26.000 This is so, so dumb. 0.98
00:02:27.000 You know what this really comes down to? 1.00
00:02:29.000 It's going to be a left versus right thing, it's going to be a conservative versus lib thing.
00:02:32.000 Because, look, I'll put it this way.
00:02:35.000 I don't care about any of these guys.
00:02:37.000 I mean, like, guys, if you're going to be getting involved in these kinds of activities with drugs and let's just call it lewd and lascivious activities, I'm not going to defend you.
00:02:47.000 But I will tell you the truth.
00:02:48.000 And the truth is, this is not a rape story.
00:02:51.000 It's a story of a drunken adult.
00:02:55.000 I'll keep the language a little light for now, but you get the point.
00:02:57.000 And then, when the dudes basically got embarrassed and the girl got embarrassed, this is the statements.
00:03:04.000 They were all embarrassed because people were spreading rumors about all of them, guys included.
00:03:08.000 The president of the frat told her she wasn't allowed to come to the frat anymore.
00:03:11.000 She got pissed and said, You're throwing me under the bus? 0.95
00:03:15.000 It would seem the actual story is that rumors circulated of a ketamine induced orgy.
00:03:22.000 Everybody was embarrassed by it.
00:03:24.000 They decided they were going to kick her out of the party, the upcoming party she was begging to come to with the heart emoji and everything.
00:03:30.000 She was like, okay, so this story is actually a story of dishonor, disloyalty, and revenge.
00:03:35.000 We're going to talk about that and a whole lot more.
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00:03:41.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Thomas Corbett Dillon.
00:03:44.000 Hello, thanks for having me.
00:03:45.000 Who are you?
00:03:46.000 What do you do?
00:03:47.000 I'm Thomas.
00:03:48.000 I was a former advisor to the prime minister in England, Boris Johnson, although not a big fan of him anymore, but that's okay.
00:03:54.000 And now I just do television, so I'm over here.
00:03:56.000 I do a lot of.
00:03:57.000 Talking head stuff.
00:03:58.000 So if you hear a British accent, it's probably me.
00:04:00.000 Right on.
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00:04:02.000 Everybody.
00:04:03.000 Hello, everybody.
00:04:04.000 Phil here, Carter.
00:04:05.000 What's going on?
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00:04:06.000 Good to have you back, Thomas.
00:04:07.000 We've got a lot to talk about.
00:04:08.000 Let's get into it.
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00:05:17.000 Let's jump into the news. 0.72
00:05:19.000 We got this from Fox News Cornell rape allegations prompt New York Attorney General Leticia James to open.
00:05:25.000 Active criminal investigation.
00:05:28.000 The AG was appointed special prosecutor by Governor Hochul over questions about Cornell police conduct.
00:05:33.000 We're also seeing viral images that purport to be the woman in question.
00:05:38.000 Now, we're going to show you all of the posts that are going viral, but I'm going to stress I have not been able to independently verify the identity of the Jane Doe, nor that the images being shared are of the correct person.
00:05:53.000 And so you've got all these images of this woman going viral.
00:05:57.000 I'm telling people, like, yo, they're.
00:06:00.000 They're posting memes that are pretty brutal.
00:06:03.000 Okay, some language I'm not going to repeat.
00:06:06.000 They're putting images of the woman's face on trains.
00:06:10.000 You know, if it turns out that's not the right person, y'all are going to be in trouble.
00:06:13.000 You're going to get sued into oblivion.
00:06:14.000 That being said, I do have some guesses.
00:06:18.000 I am going to go ahead and assume the moment this Jane Doe files this lawsuit, the guys in question know who she is.
00:06:26.000 Come on. 0.96
00:06:27.000 Everybody at the college knew who she was, she was being called names she was mad about.
00:06:33.000 It was only a matter of time before all of this broke out into the public and everyone knew what her name was.
00:06:39.000 So there's a lot of people who believe this is the one we're going to show you.
00:06:43.000 But we'll start here.
00:06:44.000 We've got Kathy Hochul opening this special, announcing the special prosecution.
00:06:50.000 New York Attorney General Leticia James announced Friday morning she has opened an active criminal investigation into the alleged gang rape.
00:06:56.000 This is now an active criminal investigation led by the Office of the Attorney General, James said, after New York Governor Kathy Hochul appointed her as independent prosecutor to the case.
00:07:03.000 Every New Yorker deserves to know that when they report a crime, it will be investigated fully and fairly, that they will be seen and heard, that this is the promise of our justice system.
00:07:11.000 Okay, well, here's the facts. 0.62
00:07:14.000 This woman, actually, you know what? 1.00
00:07:16.000 Shoe on Head has a post here where she actually highlights key elements.
00:07:23.000 From the, I'm going to show this because we talked about it last night, but it bears repeating.
00:07:28.000 Here's what they're opening a criminal investigation into.
00:07:31.000 The DA says her sworn statement to Cornell police in 2024 described the activity very differently from the lawsuit.
00:07:38.000 She did not say she had been drugged against her will.
00:07:40.000 She acknowledged voluntarily consuming alcohol and drugs.
00:07:44.000 The DA said she described herself as conscious during the relevant events.
00:07:47.000 She did not describe herself as unconscious or physically incapacitated.
00:07:51.000 She did not describe the events as a gang rape.
00:07:53.000 Most importantly, the DA says her statement described Her participation in sexual activity as voluntary and consensual, including with several men.
00:08:01.000 According to the DA, when she asked particular men to stop, they stopped.
00:08:06.000 So, this is the story that has been going around, of course, for the life of me.
00:08:11.000 And we'll start here because we got a lot to break down.
00:08:15.000 You guys, I think we all have our opinions on this one, but I'd like to hear from you guys.
00:08:18.000 Why is it that women, despite the facts proving it was voluntary and consensual, are claiming otherwise?
00:08:26.000 Likely it's because they feel like they can identify with her, right?
00:08:29.000 They've done something that they regret, so they endorse her claim of rape because it makes them feel like they're validated for having, you know, for the things that they did that they've regretted.
00:08:47.000 It allows them to put the blame on someone else as opposed to acknowledging that their bad decisions led to them feeling bad about the situation.
00:08:58.000 It's not pretty.
00:08:59.000 It's not nice to talk about, but that's probably the thing it is.
00:09:03.000 That's why, that's the argument that the Lindsey Clancy supporters make.
00:09:06.000 They say, I understand Lindsey.
00:09:09.000 I understand how she felt.
00:09:10.000 They may not have actually committed, well, you know, hopefully the vast majority of them haven't committed murder.
00:09:16.000 But they say, I understand because I've Felt stressed when I had kids and I had postpartum depression, or I had this, I had that.
00:09:22.000 So I understand.
00:09:23.000 So, because of that, if I were to condemn her, it's like I'm condemning myself and I don't want to feel like I did anything bad.
00:09:33.000 So, therefore, I'm going to say that she didn't do anything that was actually wrong, or that we have to understand her because I would look for that understanding.
00:09:42.000 It's all about the way that they feel about themselves, I think.
00:09:45.000 And in regards to this, it's not that they're trying to defend the woman.
00:09:49.000 Who got who took the gang?
00:09:52.000 But they're trying to induce, like, show that these other guys are guilty.
00:09:58.000 It's like deeply psyched.
00:09:59.000 When people are in deep psychosis, they know animalistically that if you can convince the world of a lie, that they will believe it and then the world will adopt reality as if that lie is real.
00:10:09.000 People know that.
00:10:10.000 And deep psychos will, like, animalistically do it.
00:10:14.000 I think some people are literally what they call out of their minds and they're just working off of animal instinct and they're like, yeah, let's make it real.
00:10:22.000 Nope.
00:10:23.000 I don't think I agree with the idea that all the people that are saying that she was assaulted are psychotic.
00:10:30.000 No, I don't think all of them are.
00:10:32.000 But I think it's a deep form of psychosis when you know it's not real, but you know you can convince people of it and make it effectively function as reality.
00:10:40.000 People will do it.
00:10:40.000 I've seen people do it.
00:10:41.000 It's crazy.
00:10:42.000 And it's not uncommon either.
00:10:43.000 That's the weird thing about it.
00:10:44.000 That's why I say I think that psychosis is a specific thing, like psychotic or psychotic person is a specific thing.
00:10:51.000 I think that this is about the way that they feel and not wanting to feel bad about themselves.
00:10:57.000 A lot, but it's about having power.
00:10:59.000 It's about saying, like, we get our way, we can do what we want.
00:11:03.000 F off.
00:11:04.000 What do you think, Thomas? 1.00
00:11:06.000 I think women are impressive. 1.00
00:11:08.000 I like the way they would never say a bad word against another woman. 1.00
00:11:11.000 They act like sort of the world's best mafia.
00:11:13.000 It's like, you know, any good person.
00:11:14.000 I got to disagree with that completely.
00:11:16.000 You don't think?
00:11:17.000 The whole base of the story.
00:11:19.000 This woman in question was the centerpiece of idolization from these men. 0.90
00:11:24.000 So other women started calling it rape to justify it's so.
00:11:29.000 Oh, interesting. 0.90
00:11:29.000 Yeah, so here's what happens. 0.90
00:11:30.000 But they're still defending her.
00:11:32.000 She's not guilty in any way.
00:11:34.000 Sort of, sort of.
00:11:35.000 Here's what happened. 1.00
00:11:36.000 She has a gangbang. 1.00
00:11:37.000 She loved it.
00:11:38.000 Apparently, according to some of the guys, this is the reporting.
00:11:40.000 It may be rumors.
00:11:41.000 There's a lot of fake news out there.
00:11:41.000 It may not be true.
00:11:43.000 But there's posts showing where the guys were like, they didn't want to hook up with her and she initiated it.
00:11:47.000 And so they're like, she raved me, right?
00:11:49.000 She has a gangbang.
00:11:50.000 She texts.
00:11:52.000 The main dude that she's kind of hooking up with, she loved it.
00:11:56.000 She said, I really liked being with you and Matt to this guy, whatever his name was.
00:12:00.000 And so she's having a good time. 1.00
00:12:04.000 She tells her roommates, hey, there are rumors going around that I'm a slut, and it's absolutely true. 1.00
00:12:10.000 The other women went online and said they were gang raping her. 1.00
00:12:13.000 Why? 1.00
00:12:15.000 To justify why it would be that all of these guys wanted her at the same time.
00:12:20.000 So it's jealousy.
00:12:21.000 Wow.
00:12:22.000 Why would you make up?
00:12:24.000 I mean, again, I'm going to stress this is the New York Times reporting this.
00:12:24.000 This story.
00:12:27.000 I'm not making this up. 1.00
00:12:28.000 The New York Times reported she said it's all true and she was a slut. 1.00
00:12:31.000 She was a whore. 1.00
00:12:34.000 Other women started posting that she had been gang raped. 1.00
00:12:37.000 In response to that post, she texted the main dude and was like, dude, this is BS.
00:12:41.000 Why are they saying this?
00:12:43.000 The dude said, this is BS.
00:12:44.000 I'm going to report it and get it taken down. 0.73
00:12:47.000 Both the woman and the guy were upset that random people from the college were accusing him of raping her. 0.95
00:12:53.000 Now, the question is psychology why would random women go on and start attacking her as being a rape victim? 1.00
00:13:01.000 They started calling her a slut and a whore. 1.00
00:13:03.000 Others started calling her a rape victim. 1.00
00:13:05.000 All of it to denigrate this of her being the centerpiece of idolization among these men. 0.96
00:13:13.000 She then gets embarrassed, her reputation ruined, and she maintains.
00:13:17.000 Positive contact with these guys and then asks them to come to the next gangbang, to which they say yes.
00:13:26.000 Then the frat president says, You know what?
00:13:29.000 You can't come.
00:13:30.000 Why?
00:13:32.000 According to the reporting from the New York Times, again, not my opinion, everybody around the school is claiming that they raped her and she's denying it and they're denying it.
00:13:40.000 The frat is like, We don't want to be involved with whatever this is, so you probably shouldn't come. 0.90
00:13:44.000 She gets pissed and says, I knew this would happen.
00:13:47.000 It's always the woman that gets the short end of the stick.
00:13:50.000 Here's the story that I see. 0.99
00:13:52.000 A woman had a gangbang with a bunch of guys and loved it.
00:13:55.000 The guys loved it. 1.00
00:13:57.000 Women got jealous and started posting online, calling her a slut or a rape victim. 0.99
00:14:01.000 The woman and the men in the gangbang were pissed off. 0.99
00:14:05.000 Everybody was embarrassed.
00:14:06.000 She said, They won't leave me alone.
00:14:08.000 My reputation is ruined.
00:14:09.000 He says, Don't worry, it'll blow over.
00:14:10.000 They're friends.
00:14:12.000 But finally, then, when the frat says, You're not welcome at our frat house anymore because of the damage to all of their reputations, she then basically says, It's time for revenge.
00:14:23.000 I got to be honest.
00:14:25.000 None of these people are good people.
00:14:27.000 So it's funny.
00:14:27.000 Right.
00:14:27.000 It's like, I'm not taking.
00:14:29.000 I got people hitting me up being like, why are you defending these frat guys?
00:14:30.000 What? 1.00
00:14:31.000 They're scumbags. 1.00
00:14:31.000 They're having ketamine gangbangs. 1.00
00:14:33.000 I don't like these guys. 1.00
00:14:33.000 They're losers. 1.00
00:14:35.000 But I'll add to that they backstabbed this chick, they stabbed her in the back. 1.00
00:14:42.000 She wanted to keep hanging out with the guy and go to another gangbang, and they wouldn't let her come because they didn't like the bad reputation they got from having the gangbang in the first place with her.
00:14:51.000 And it's probably even more nuanced.
00:14:53.000 There were, I don't know how many dudes were involved.
00:14:55.000 Five.
00:14:55.000 I keep picturing five to seven.
00:14:57.000 It was seven?
00:14:57.000 Cornell seven, that cool guy.
00:14:59.000 Oh, holler.
00:15:00.000 And at her worst, that's great, grand in scope.
00:15:03.000 I don't know if that's a good or evil thing.
00:15:05.000 But anyway, maybe a couple of those guys did call her, like leave, and they're like, yo, that girl's so slow, and started spreading it.
00:15:11.000 But the main guy didn't.
00:15:12.000 And he's like, oh my God, this is so out of hand.
00:15:14.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:15:15.000 And then, Maybe girls.
00:15:16.000 She sent them a heart emoji saying, I'm going to bring my SIGs to the party.
00:15:20.000 She wanted the second gangbang.
00:15:22.000 It really sounds like a spiraling of shame that the center few people experienced, and then it got more and more and more, and then they imploded.
00:15:34.000 No, it was like people did a crazy thing, now they're ashamed of it.
00:15:38.000 I don't even know why this is a legal thing.
00:15:41.000 I hear you, I hear all the theories.
00:15:43.000 I'm going to go and say, upon reading all of the texts, the messages, the statements, the New York Times.
00:15:48.000 Laying out this timeline, it's pretty incredible.
00:15:52.000 It's two weeks after the first gangbang, they're having a Halloween party, and she's like, I want to come to this one.
00:15:57.000 And they're like, Yeah, the guy literally says, This house is your house.
00:16:00.000 You are always welcome here.
00:16:02.000 Then the frat president calls her and says, Nah, we don't think it's a good idea because they didn't like that people were claiming they raped her.
00:16:07.000 So they said, You can't come. 0.94
00:16:08.000 So what does she do?
00:16:09.000 She says, Fine.
00:16:10.000 This is a story of betrayal. 0.96
00:16:12.000 It's a story of drug, gangbang losers, all of them, everyone involved. 0.92
00:16:16.000 The woman's a ketamine gangbanger, and the guys are all ketamine gangbangers. 0.95
00:16:20.000 Well, actually, gang bang is not the right word. 0.87
00:16:22.000 Sounds like gang bang.
00:16:24.000 Gang rapists? 0.86
00:16:25.000 Gang bangists? 0.99
00:16:26.000 Gang bangists. 1.00
00:16:27.000 That's how you delineate. 1.00
00:16:29.000 You know what this is? 0.98
00:16:30.000 The lowest circle of fellows reserved for the betrayers and the mutineers. 1.00
00:16:34.000 So I'll just say this. 0.95
00:16:35.000 First, I would never be involved in a gangbang, let alone a ketamine gangbang or even doing ketamine.
00:16:41.000 I've never done hard drugs in my life.
00:16:43.000 So I just have no respect for any of these people.
00:16:47.000 But I said this earlier today.
00:16:49.000 If I was in college, part of a frat or something, and there was a chick that I was friends with and we had hooked up and people were spreading rumors about us and they were insulting us, and then my frat or whatever told her she was not welcome to hang out, you know what I'd do?
00:17:04.000 I'd text her back and say, I'm ditching the party and coming to hang with you.
00:17:07.000 I don't betray my friends like that.
00:17:08.000 If they've got a problem with this, that's on them, not on me, and I won't leave you behind. 0.98
00:17:11.000 The frats are pretty crazy.
00:17:12.000 I wasn't in a frat in college, but they would probably throw you out of the frat if you did something like that. 1.00
00:17:17.000 I think frat people are losers. 0.94
00:17:19.000 I always kind of thought so. 0.97
00:17:20.000 I never joined it on purpose.
00:17:22.000 My first week at college, I was a freshman.
00:17:24.000 We were walking down the street.
00:17:25.000 Me and my roommate Bob, my college buddy, we've known each other since we were three.
00:17:29.000 We went to this frat party and they were like, Foosball?
00:17:31.000 And they were playing.
00:17:32.000 I was like, Yeah, I'm really good at football.
00:17:33.000 They were like, Okay, but if we shut you out 10 to nothing, you have to streak naked through the house.
00:17:37.000 And I was like, All right, I'm good at football.
00:17:39.000 They were not going to stand 9 to nothing.
00:17:42.000 And then I scored, I could score a goal, and they were like, no, they were all pissed off.
00:17:46.000 Dude, I was sweating so hard.
00:17:48.000 It was crazy.
00:17:49.000 Just drunken. 1.00
00:17:49.000 It was pretty gay. 1.00
00:17:50.000 What's that? 1.00
00:17:51.000 They wanted me naked, dude. 0.99
00:17:51.000 Like, pretty gay. 0.99
00:17:52.000 It was crazy. 1.00
00:17:53.000 Okay, here's what I'd say about frets. 0.57
00:17:54.000 I don't care about fraternities or sororities in the general sense of like, you find a community that you're going to work with in college, and then when you guys get older, you have friends, you have connections, all that's great.
00:18:03.000 But I'm talking specifically about these dudes.
00:18:06.000 You see the story where they found a bunch of freshmen in a basement covered in ketchup?
00:18:09.000 Yeah.
00:18:11.000 If I find out, and look, I understand.
00:18:13.000 Who am I, right?
00:18:14.000 I'm not a hedge fund.
00:18:15.000 I'm not, you know, whatever.
00:18:16.000 I'm nobody.
00:18:17.000 I'll just tell you this though, for what it's worth.
00:18:19.000 Anybody comes to a job, comes to me for a job, I'm going to be like, yeah, were you in a frat? 0.96
00:18:26.000 Were you hazed? 0.68
00:18:27.000 You were? 1.00
00:18:27.000 Get the fuck out of my house. 1.00
00:18:29.000 We had our. 0.99
00:18:30.000 I'm not hiring anybody. 0.81
00:18:32.000 Look, there aren't that many places for men anymore.
00:18:35.000 And, like, you know, that kind of is an attack on another sort of brotherhood.
00:18:39.000 There aren't, you know, look at what every society and, you know, members' clubs and things, you can't have men only place anymore.
00:18:44.000 You're not a man.
00:18:45.000 Only one place where you can, like, just get men together. 0.99
00:18:48.000 Yeah, no, you're not a man if you get on your knees so a guy can smack you with a head fistful of ketchup.
00:18:52.000 These are the extreme stories, I'm sure.
00:18:54.000 Exactly, I agree.
00:18:55.000 I don't think that always happens. 0.85
00:18:56.000 But I don't think we should be getting rid of male spaces. 0.60
00:18:59.000 I didn't say that.
00:18:59.000 I said the frats are fine.
00:19:00.000 Like, the term fraternity, you got really psychotic fraternities, and then you have, like, cool.
00:19:04.000 Places.
00:19:05.000 Exactly what I said.
00:19:06.000 I've never even seen it.
00:19:07.000 I'm just in the movies, but apparently it sounds pretty realistic.
00:19:10.000 The idea of a fraternity where you can make friends and you can have a male space.
00:19:14.000 As I already said, all of that is fine. 0.93
00:19:16.000 However, there are too many of these that do these hazing rituals. 0.99
00:19:20.000 And if you engage in hazing, you're a loser. 1.00
00:19:23.000 You are a loser. 1.00
00:19:25.000 That's just it. 1.00
00:19:26.000 You need validation and acceptance so bad you get on your knees for another man.
00:19:30.000 I'm not interested in working with a person.
00:19:31.000 It's kind of like boot camp, but I don't know. 0.99
00:19:36.000 No, Boot camp is you go in, and there is a story learned guy telling you to stop being a bitch and go crawl through the mud to be a better man. 1.00
00:19:45.000 Hazing is get on your knees for me so I can smack you with a fistful of ketchup. 0.99
00:19:49.000 I think the similarity, I didn't do boot camp and I didn't do hazing, but I think the similarity is they want to break your will so that you become one of the group.
00:19:57.000 That's the point of the horrific experience.
00:20:00.000 I am.
00:20:00.000 Traumatize you and rebuild you from the ground.
00:20:02.000 Basic training is to strip down your inner bitch. 1.00
00:20:04.000 You did it. 1.00
00:20:05.000 You did it literally.
00:20:05.000 Basically, yeah.
00:20:07.000 What was your take on it?
00:20:09.000 It was a lot about teaching you teamwork, teaching you to stop thinking about yourself as an individual, thinking yourself as a member of a team, and focus on whatever your goal is at the time.
00:20:24.000 It's part of the reason why, if one person messes up, everybody goes and does PT.
00:20:29.000 They had this area called the pit, which is just basically a sandbox.
00:20:32.000 And everyone out, if someone messes up, they'll put everybody in the sandbox and you're all doing PT in the sandbox, sit ups, whatever.
00:20:40.000 And you don't want to be the reason why everyone goes to the pit, right?
00:20:45.000 You don't want to be the reason why everyone has to go and roll around in the sand and be miserable for the rest of the day.
00:20:51.000 So, a lot of it is teaching you to, you know, it's mostly a lot of it's getting you to pay attention to details because details matter.
00:21:01.000 And it's also getting you to work as a team member.
00:21:04.000 Hazing is mindless.
00:21:08.000 There was that one, remember that one where the cops came and they had a bunch of dudes locked in the basement and the cops were like, What do you, you can't do this?
00:21:15.000 And not a one of the guys would speak out against, like, dude, I, the last thing I need when I'm trying to build something is somebody who is so mentally weak, they would let another man do that to them.
00:21:28.000 That's just reality. 0.99
00:21:30.000 Basic training an individual enlists, signs up, To enter a tough physical space because they have chosen to strip themselves of their inner bitch. 0.69
00:21:38.000 And also, when you allow yourself to go through a horrific training process, if there's a goal at the end that you're trying to accomplish something, that's reasonable.
00:21:45.000 But if it's just a party house, like with you want to make friends, it's not a good reason to do it.
00:21:49.000 It's not, first of all, it's not like horrible, right?
00:21:53.000 Like basic training is hard, right?
00:21:55.000 But it's not like they're not, it's not horrible.
00:22:00.000 Like you don't feel like when your drill instructors are yelling at you or whatever, It doesn't feel personal, right?
00:22:07.000 Even though they'll say, sometimes they'll say some pretty nasty stuff or whatever, at least when I was in, they did.
00:22:12.000 It didn't feel like it was personal and it didn't feel like they were trying to embarrass you or mock you, right?
00:22:19.000 It was trying to teach you to do the correct, to do things the right way.
00:22:23.000 You didn't see humiliation rituals?
00:22:25.000 No, no.
00:22:25.000 You get that in like Full Metal Jacket, the movie.
00:22:27.000 You know, there's instances of the drill sergeant humiliating one of the private because he had a donut in his.
00:22:33.000 I can't speak to what Basic was like in the 60s.
00:22:36.000 Okay.
00:22:36.000 I can't.
00:22:37.000 I wasn't there.
00:22:37.000 I don't know.
00:22:38.000 I went in the 90s.
00:22:40.000 But, you know, they would still yell at you.
00:22:42.000 They would still swear.
00:22:43.000 They would still be like, you know, they would still call you names.
00:22:46.000 But it wasn't about humiliating you.
00:22:49.000 It was about correcting you, making an error.
00:22:52.000 So, again, this is, I can't speak for older generations.
00:22:55.000 I know that the standards have changed and I know that it's different now, too.
00:23:00.000 Um, But when I went through, it wasn't humiliation rituals.
00:23:04.000 It wasn't trying to embarrass you. 1.00
00:23:06.000 It wasn't trying to make you feel like you were an idiot or something. 0.99
00:23:10.000 They were trying to correct you for errors that you made and trying to teach you how to do things right. 0.98
00:23:15.000 They weren't soft on you and it was hard, but it wasn't super horrifying.
00:23:20.000 Like one of the things that people hear a lot of stories about or get most worked up about is like the gas chamber that you go into.
00:23:27.000 And there's a lot of buildup to that, but you get instruction.
00:23:31.000 If you follow the instructions, it's not that bad.
00:23:33.000 It's really not.
00:23:34.000 The only point of the gas is to make sure that you can clear your gas mask properly, and the gas lets you know that you screwed up if you do it wrong, right?
00:23:42.000 It's not going to hurt you.
00:23:44.000 Like a live fire training or something?
00:23:46.000 Basic training isn't a we did it so you have to.
00:23:50.000 It's basic training.
00:23:52.000 You're eating better food, you're getting fit.
00:23:54.000 In these three months, you're going to get rid of all that fat, you're going to be able to do push ups, you're going to have some strength, you're going to be better prepared.
00:24:01.000 Right, the shared heat you do.
00:24:02.000 What do you do, PT every day?
00:24:03.000 Yeah.
00:24:04.000 The shared humiliation of frats and like the whole thing that's really really crazy to me.
00:24:09.000 That was so weird.
00:24:10.000 They like put shaving cream on, I mean, just the amount of things they would do.
00:24:13.000 They started to make it illegal at a lot of colleges.
00:24:15.000 Did you see that stuff when you went to college?
00:24:17.000 Because I never, I never, no, I stayed away from frats pretty much the whole time.
00:24:20.000 We had a frat in the theater department.
00:24:22.000 I was a theater major after my fresh sophomore year, and uh, but I didn't join it.
00:24:26.000 Our parties were kind of crazy, but like no gang bangs that anyone talked about.
00:24:33.000 You probably have the occasional threesome of one for sure.
00:24:37.000 Let's jump to this story.
00:24:39.000 So we've got a handful of posts here.
00:24:41.000 It is now being alleged by numerous large X accounts that Lucy Craig is the individual known as Jane Doe.
00:24:49.000 I've not been able to independently verify that.
00:24:52.000 So I say right now, I don't know that it's true, but the amount of.
00:24:56.000 People, I mean, millions upon millions of followers everywhere on the internet posting photos of her.
00:25:01.000 They're all saying it's her. 0.99
00:25:02.000 My presumption is look, everybody at Cornell knew who this girl was because the story was massively viral and she was being called a slut and a whore and all that stuff. 0.53
00:25:11.000 So it's not even about whether one of these seven guys released her information, but how do you remain a Jane Doe when everyone at your college knew what you did?
00:25:19.000 Yeah.
00:25:20.000 Sooner or later, her name was coming out.
00:25:21.000 Yeah.
00:25:22.000 That's like, that's another thing of like, yo, if this happened, maybe it was embarrassing. 0.99
00:25:25.000 Maybe people were calling you a slut, but like, you. 0.99
00:25:27.000 Kind of keep it to yourself. 0.98
00:25:28.000 It's sort of that whole, you don't want to freak out about it.
00:25:30.000 You kind of want to make light of it.
00:25:32.000 I got to pause you. 1.00
00:25:34.000 She stated in the documents, she is quoted as saying she is a slut. 1.00
00:25:40.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:25:41.000 It's true.
00:25:42.000 She did it.
00:25:42.000 When people make fun of you, if you take it personally, you go, stop.
00:25:46.000 No.
00:25:47.000 Uh-uh.
00:25:48.000 It gets worse and worse and worse.
00:25:48.000 Uh-uh.
00:25:49.000 But if you're just like, yeah, it goes away instantly.
00:25:52.000 So this is what happened. 0.94
00:25:55.000 When people were calling her a horn of slut, she texted the main dude and he was like, I'm sorry, like it's gonna blow over. 0.98
00:26:01.000 People will just ignore it and it'll go away. 0.98
00:26:03.000 She's like, You're right, it'll get better.
00:26:05.000 And then someone started posting that she had been gang raped and she got pissed.
00:26:09.000 The dude, she texted him, Why are they saying this?
00:26:12.000 And he said, This is BS.
00:26:14.000 I'm gonna report this and get it removed. 0.98
00:26:16.000 Other people made up the rape story and she was with them. 1.00
00:26:20.000 No.
00:26:21.000 Check this post out from AF Post.
00:26:23.000 Fraternity brothers Gilio Lopez and Winston Lee alleged that Lucy Craig initiated unwanted and non-consexual sexual contact with them.
00:26:30.000 The Cornell son doxed both men as rapists, despite statements suggesting that Craig was the aggressor.
00:26:36.000 Now, AF Post posted this image.
00:26:39.000 I'm presuming that's Lucy Craig.
00:26:42.000 Gina Milan posted: This is Lucy Craig, a.k.a. Jane Doe, who was allegedly the victim in the Cornell lawsuit.
00:26:48.000 One of her recent IG posts is just a photo of her from the chest down showing her outfit with the caption: Fun and funky outfits keep the sorrows away.
00:26:54.000 From what I can see, she seems to be enjoying life and posting pictures like everything is completely normal.
00:26:59.000 The whole thing is bizarre.
00:27:00.000 Now, I'll say it again.
00:27:01.000 I've not been able to find any verification that Lucy Craig is Jane Doe, but everybody's posting that it is.
00:27:10.000 Take that for what it means.
00:27:11.000 If it turns out Lucy Craig is not this, or this is not the right Lucy Craig, then people are going to get sued and get killed.
00:27:19.000 We've got some splitting to do.
00:27:21.000 Well, so there are some posts going around, allegedly, of the frat bros talking about it, and there's an Asian woman.
00:27:29.000 And so some people are like, that's not her.
00:27:32.000 I tried to search Lucy Craig on Instagram. 0.99
00:27:34.000 Because there's pictures of an Asian woman and they're like, they're having a gangbang with an Asian woman.
00:27:38.000 Well, the guys' names are all, you know, every one of the guys has been doxxed.
00:27:42.000 And I think it's, you know, I don't want to dox them, but I think a lot of people have seen their faces.
00:27:46.000 It's kind of interesting.
00:27:47.000 It's very diverse.
00:27:48.000 Have you seen the crowd of guys?
00:27:50.000 They kind of tick every box.
00:27:52.000 There's even like a little Hawaii, like Islander guy. 0.56
00:27:54.000 There's a black guy, there's a white guy, there's like a Latino guy.
00:27:56.000 I'm like, wow, they really ticked all the diversity.
00:27:58.000 But I think a lot of people are implying.
00:28:01.000 That this is like your traditional frat bro, like white crew of like, you know, waspy people.
00:28:06.000 It's actually not. 0.92
00:28:07.000 It's a very different crew.
00:28:09.000 So, yeah, the whole story is, but you know, their lives are ruined.
00:28:13.000 One of the guys already lost his job at a bank and literally have not been proven anything that they did.
00:28:19.000 But their lives are kind of over.
00:28:20.000 That's the problem with these things is that there's, you know, there's no, they don't need to be proven guilty of anything.
00:28:25.000 I think we should stand up for these people.
00:28:26.000 And I mean, all of them.
00:28:27.000 Lucy also, like, none of you guys did anything wrong.
00:28:29.000 You had a crazy freaking night, obviously. 0.83
00:28:33.000 It was animalistic. 0.99
00:28:35.000 Okay, come on.
00:28:36.000 If she's going to press charges, she did something wrong.
00:28:40.000 If she consented the entire time, if the story, if the statements to the police are correct, and she consented, which is what the evidence points at right now, and then years later, she says, I'm going to press charges.
00:28:54.000 I'm going to sue you in a civil lawsuit.
00:28:57.000 Then she did something wrong.
00:28:59.000 Look at this.
00:28:59.000 Additionally, Letitia James, AOC, all the people that have already chimed in and said that they're, that have decided that the men are guilty, they've done something wrong as well.
00:29:12.000 Look at this.
00:29:14.000 Mr. Lopez said that she initiated the sexual contact and did not ask for his consent.
00:29:18.000 He left around 2 a.m., he said, after he became uncomfortable and went with three friends at McDonald's.
00:29:23.000 He said he did not tell them what had transpired in part.
00:29:26.000 Because he was admittedly a bit embarrassed about what happened.
00:29:30.000 Mr. Lee also said that Jane Doe initiated sexual activity without asking.
00:29:34.000 He said he snorted a line of ketamine off her body and she tried to initiate sex.
00:29:38.000 I kind of took a step back because I didn't want to engage in anything like sex.
00:29:41.000 I thought it wasn't the time for that.
00:29:43.000 But later in the night, Mr. Lee said he asked for Jane Doe's consent before engaging in a threesome with her.
00:29:48.000 He recalled telling Jane Doe, if you're uncomfortable with any of this or you don't want to do this, that's perfectly fine.
00:29:53.000 We can call it a night.
00:29:54.000 She replied, we're all consenting adults here.
00:29:56.000 This is the most crazy story.
00:29:58.000 What?
00:29:58.000 So earlier in the night, he snorted K off her body.
00:30:01.000 And but she and she probably reached for him and like grabbed at him, and he was like, No, no, no, no, not yet, not now. 0.55
00:30:06.000 And then later, he was like, God, I really, I really am horny.
00:30:08.000 And so he goes back to her, he's like, Hey, are you still down?
00:30:10.000 And she's like, Yeah, of course.
00:30:11.000 Well, this is this is this is horrifying. 0.99
00:30:12.000 I mean, she raped him. 0.99
00:30:13.000 He couldn't consent. 0.99
00:30:15.000 He was high.
00:30:16.000 He did drugs and she reached for him and he said no. 0.98
00:30:19.000 Later on, when he was too intoxicated to know what was going on, she raped him. 0.74
00:30:23.000 If the drugs are on her body, does that mean she provided the drugs? 0.68
00:30:26.000 Maybe.
00:30:26.000 I don't know.
00:30:27.000 I mean, look, they're all ketamine gangbangists.
00:30:30.000 I have no sympathy for any of them, but the truth, okay?
00:30:34.000 The truth is it's not rape.
00:30:35.000 Yeah.
00:30:35.000 If they can all corroborate that she said we're all consenting adults here, that right there kills her case.
00:30:42.000 And additionally, There was something that was said.
00:30:44.000 I don't know if it's in this particular screen cap, but she said there were times where they discussed certain sexual acts that she declined and they didn't do those, and certain sexual acts that she consented to and they did those.
00:31:00.000 That right there shows that all of the allegations of sexual misconduct are false.
00:31:06.000 So, here we go.
00:31:07.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:31:07.000 Hold on.
00:31:07.000 This is amazing.
00:31:08.000 We got texts here.
00:31:10.000 Apparently, it's from ABC.
00:31:11.000 I got to fact check this.
00:31:12.000 I know some of them are, I know the first two are true, but listen to this.
00:31:15.000 Bro, everyone knows.
00:31:16.000 I'm incredibly stressed out.
00:31:18.000 Some random censored told some of my friends, I don't even know who that is, how she knows me.
00:31:24.000 I will also say this is my life temporarily.
00:31:28.000 My reputation is destroyed and I'm utterly ashamed.
00:31:31.000 You're right, it'll get better.
00:31:33.000 And you think everyone's just jealous of us, but also like everyone needs to grow up because sexuality and sex and redacted is changing and stuff.
00:31:41.000 Like this is going to become more common.
00:31:43.000 I'm also really open minded though.
00:31:45.000 I love you, King.
00:31:46.000 Also, tell anyone who gives you ish.
00:31:49.000 That I'll actually beat them up that don't want that smoke, I promise.
00:31:54.000 So, what I can say is, I'm going to try and pull this up because this is just an image on X.
00:32:00.000 But these are all in the New York Times story.
00:32:04.000 Even the, you're right, it'll get better.
00:32:06.000 But holy crap, if she did say, everyone needs to grow up, it's going to become, I love you. 0.80
00:32:11.000 It's going to become normal. 0.98
00:32:12.000 I love you, King.
00:32:13.000 That's text from her to him?
00:32:14.000 Yes.
00:32:15.000 I like the first reply there, calling her Gangbang Jane.
00:32:18.000 Is that her new nickname?
00:32:20.000 Well, I mean, it's Jane Doe, right?
00:32:23.000 A question also this is a little tangential.
00:32:25.000 I don't think this actually happened in this story, but considering rape, like if you're having sex with someone and it's going on for 10, 20, 30 minutes or whatever, it's four hours, however you like to do it.
00:32:34.000 And then she's like, okay, stop.
00:32:36.000 And you keep having sex, I guess that you would consider that rape. 0.99
00:32:40.000 Yeah. 0.97
00:32:40.000 If you're like, hold on, hold on, stop, she's right. 0.97
00:32:42.000 And then she doesn't stop, that would be technically rape. 0.53
00:32:44.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:32:44.000 What if it's your wife? 1.00
00:32:46.000 And it's been going on for 20 years.
00:32:48.000 She's like, I'm tired.
00:32:48.000 And you're just, is that rape?
00:32:50.000 Yes.
00:32:50.000 Is that illegal?
00:32:51.000 Yes.
00:32:52.000 Does that, I know.
00:32:53.000 But like, think about that.
00:32:55.000 Oh my God.
00:32:55.000 Have you ever been with a girl and she's like, stop, like pretending, use that cheap voice?
00:33:00.000 And you're like, don't pretend to tell me to stop because later you could pretend to charge me with rape. 0.85
00:33:05.000 This is part of why there is a serious degradation of, Of in relationships and stuff because women will say, We want affirmative consent all the time, right? 0.94
00:33:20.000 Or we want to, we must be, we must give you for affirmative consent all the time. 0.97
00:33:24.000 And they will say that to their friends and stuff like that.
00:33:27.000 They will say that in public. 0.85
00:33:28.000 And then they'll wonder why guys, when a woman says, No, don't do that in that same kind of voice that you're talking about.
00:33:37.000 And the guy says, Okay, I won't.
00:33:39.000 And then she's like, Well, you know, I liked him and he really didn't, you know, I liked him and he, but he didn't.
00:33:44.000 You know, he never asked me out or whatever, or what have you.
00:33:47.000 It's mixed signals that guys are receiving.
00:33:49.000 And that's why guys are like, well, I don't know what the hell to do.
00:33:51.000 That's part of the reason why guys are checking out of society.
00:33:54.000 Not because affirmative consent is bad, but because it's a mixed, there are mixed signals coming from society.
00:34:02.000 And dudes know that if they read the signals incorrectly, they're criminally liable.
00:34:09.000 Dude, this is nuts.
00:34:11.000 Quote, I do know people are changing the narrative because, like in any sexual scenario with one woman and many men, the woman was probably the victim.
00:34:20.000 That's what she said. 0.75
00:34:22.000 Oh, well, she's acknowledging.
00:34:25.000 Okay, okay.
00:34:26.000 I think this is an open and shut non case.
00:34:28.000 It is, and that's why it's so weird that they're pushing this.
00:34:33.000 Maybe this is our golden opportunity.
00:34:40.000 Yeah, here's the original text.
00:34:49.000 Some she said she consented to, and some that felt like coercion.
00:34:53.000 The young woman recalled a group of multiple men walking into a room.
00:34:56.000 I was instantly horrified, and I remember squealing out loud and running across the room and hiding under the covers on another bed.
00:35:03.000 As the night wore on, I felt like I was unable to make any decision because of how intoxicated I was.
00:35:09.000 But tonight, the district attorney still believes that statement showed consensual sex, despite vulgar Snapchat messages shared among the fraternity brothers appearing to invite more men into the room.
00:35:20.000 If you take that Snapchat being vile and crude and vulgar, that did not.
00:35:27.000 Have any relevance to the issue of whether Jane Doe consented to what was happening.
00:35:32.000 Tonight, ABC News has also obtained text messages Jane Doe exchanged days after with one of the men she now accuses of rape.
00:35:40.000 Bro, everyone knows my reputation is destroyed and I'm utterly ashamed.
00:35:45.000 But later texting, everyone needs to grow up because sexuality and sex is changing and stuff like this is going to become more common.
00:35:52.000 I'm also really open minded, though.
00:35:54.000 I love you, King.
00:35:55.000 The following week, that man appears worried.
00:35:58.000 I'm being labeled an assaulter in the public eye.
00:36:01.000 Jane Doe first reassured him I've never mentioned your name.
00:36:05.000 But the next day, she texts, I think I'm done talking to you.
00:36:08.000 I know you lied.
00:36:09.000 And that same day, she went to police.
00:36:12.000 On social media, the Fraternity Brothers have been dubbed the Cornell Seven.
00:36:16.000 A lawyer for one of them said that's not fair, and his client is innocent.
00:36:20.000 It's guilt by association, but when you actually read the complaint and see what's there.
00:36:24.000 You realize they're not accusing him of rape.
00:36:27.000 Tonight, the governor of New York says Cornell has now accepted her call for an independent investigation.
00:36:32.000 Bro, this is wild.
00:36:34.000 I love you, King.
00:36:35.000 And then he betrays her, and so she gets her revenge.
00:36:35.000 Yeah.
00:36:39.000 Yeah.
00:36:39.000 I don't know why they're pushing it so hard.
00:36:40.000 Like, why is the attorney general getting involved and all this?
00:36:44.000 It's a strange story.
00:36:45.000 It feels like high school drama.
00:36:46.000 It's like, you know, people texting and arguing, and all of a sudden it's the biggest story in the world.
00:36:49.000 It's crazy.
00:36:51.000 It feels like things are supposed to work out in reality sometimes, and this is the opportunity where, like, they're like, look, Here's a really bad thing that's easy to disprove.
00:37:00.000 And now it's your chance to be like, bad idea.
00:37:02.000 And then it's done.
00:37:04.000 That's what this feels like.
00:37:06.000 I mean, I don't see how, how can, like, it's clear.
00:37:06.000 Yeah.
00:37:09.000 How is there any case here? 0.99
00:37:10.000 I don't see what Letitia James is going to do.
00:37:13.000 Is she going to find some.
00:37:14.000 She's going to ride this as hard as she can. 1.00
00:37:17.000 Same thing with AOC because it is a, you know, it is a victimized woman, allegedly a victimized woman. 1.00
00:37:25.000 And so it's what they're supposed to do as women in power. 1.00
00:37:29.000 They're supposed to support women. 0.70
00:37:30.000 They're supposed, You're supposed to believe all women.
00:37:33.000 But the problem is that there doesn't seem to be the evidence that this was actually rape. 1.00
00:37:40.000 There's some smart women. 0.99
00:37:41.000 So the lady on The View, I forget who it was, but she came out and said, Yeah, she backtracked. 1.00
00:37:45.000 Oh, she changed her. 0.88
00:37:46.000 Of course she did. 1.00
00:37:47.000 She got yelled at until she backtracked.
00:37:48.000 Sonny Hostin was like.
00:37:50.000 Sonny Hostin was like.
00:37:51.000 Was like, Sonny Hostin was like, she consented to all of this.
00:37:57.000 She did the drugs.
00:37:58.000 She agreed to be with these men.
00:37:59.000 And she was like, that's what happened.
00:38:01.000 And then after she got attacked mercilessly online, she came out and said, no, no, I'm just saying that the laws need to change because those men should go to jail.
00:38:06.000 Oh, of course.
00:38:07.000 Yeah.
00:38:08.000 Dude, it seems to be what's happening.
00:38:09.000 I know people applying pressure.
00:38:10.000 People applying pressure to a vulnerable woman who then changes her story. 0.95
00:38:14.000 Sonny Hostin echoing what this Jane Doe chick did.
00:38:19.000 That's really, really terrible.
00:38:21.000 But these guys' lives are ruined.
00:38:21.000 Yeah.
00:38:23.000 You know, even if this goes away.
00:38:25.000 I don't care.
00:38:26.000 I don't care.
00:38:27.000 I don't care.
00:38:27.000 You want to join a frat and do a ketamine gangbang?
00:38:30.000 And then you're like, oh no, the consequences of my actions.
00:38:34.000 Whatever.
00:38:34.000 Yeah.
00:38:35.000 Like, I think it's wrong to falsely accuse guys of rape.
00:38:37.000 Yeah.
00:38:37.000 But in current year, if you want to go have ketamine induced and fueled gangbangs, I'm sorry, dude.
00:38:46.000 I'm looking at this woman and these guys having a drug induced gangbang, and I'm like, I'm not going to feel sorry for any of them.
00:38:53.000 This is going to be.
00:38:53.000 I will call out the truth.
00:38:55.000 This is not a rape.
00:38:57.000 But, like, the guys shouldn't face any penalties on rape.
00:39:00.000 They shouldn't be getting criminally charged.
00:39:01.000 But their lives are ruins from their own actions. 0.98
00:39:04.000 This is going to make more dudes apprehensive about dealing with women. 0.99
00:39:09.000 I mean, why would you risk it now, right?
00:39:11.000 Yeah, well, the thing is, like.
00:39:12.000 Incels are growing.
00:39:13.000 Yeah, I mean.
00:39:14.000 It's not even an incel now, it's voluntary.
00:39:15.000 No, it's voluntary, right?
00:39:17.000 That's the thing.
00:39:17.000 It's like dudes are checking out.
00:39:19.000 Of course not.
00:39:19.000 Dudes are saying, well, I don't, you know, I can't find a good woman.
00:39:23.000 I don't want to. 0.97
00:39:24.000 And the more women are overtly sexual, which is what is necessary to make it clear to a guy who's apprehensive about talking to women, what's necessary to make it clear that it's okay for you to talk to me. 0.93
00:39:38.000 I will take the initiative. 0.70
00:39:41.000 The more he's going to think, well, what if she changes her mind?
00:39:43.000 Yep. 0.98
00:39:44.000 You know, this is terrible for society.
00:39:47.000 This whole idea that you can have, you know, the whole free sex idea from the 60s that comes along with feminism, the kind of stuff that they're putting on call her daddy and talking about. 0.85
00:40:02.000 It's horrible for women. 1.00
00:40:03.000 It's horrible for women. 1.00
00:40:04.000 You know, it's important not to become incel. 1.00
00:40:07.000 You don't want to be, I mean, and it's up to you.
00:40:09.000 If you want to be celibate, which means you don't have any sex ever, okay, but you don't have to be celibate to avoid this.
00:40:15.000 Just be chaste.
00:40:17.000 It's a virtue in Catholicism, a Christian virtue, chastity. 0.99
00:40:20.000 It means keep it in your pants. 1.00
00:40:22.000 Except for your girlfriend, except for your woman. 1.00
00:40:24.000 That's supposed to be for your wife. 0.96
00:40:25.000 Yeah, your wife. 1.00
00:40:26.000 You know, the one that you're building a marriage with. 0.98
00:40:29.000 Just don't swing it around.
00:40:31.000 I mean, it's not that hard to not be involved in the academy and gangbang.
00:40:35.000 It's definitely not hard to be involved in the academy.
00:40:37.000 Let's pull up this story from the New York Times Men accused in Cornell sex assault suit give varying accounts of the night.
00:40:43.000 The reason why this story is big is because the men are now, in fact, accusing Jane Doe of rape.
00:40:50.000 So we can just scroll right down here.
00:40:53.000 So let me read this for you.
00:40:55.000 In the hours of interviews in a statement collected during the Cornell administrative investigation over the winter of 24, all the men denied any wrongdoing.
00:41:02.000 Four acknowledged having sexual contact with the woman, but said that their interactions had been consensual.
00:41:07.000 The others denied participating in sexual encounters.
00:41:09.000 One said that he, in fact, was a victim of sexual misconduct because the woman had given him oral when he was too incapacitated to consent.
00:41:17.000 All their accounts differed. 0.99
00:41:19.000 She's got to be criminally charged for this. 0.99
00:41:21.000 She should be criminally charged for this.
00:41:23.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:41:25.000 For working that dude off when he was in cap. 1.00
00:41:27.000 Here's what's going to happen with Letitia James getting involved.
00:41:31.000 If you're a guy in a blue state, you've got one move. 0.95
00:41:34.000 After you have sex, immediately film yourself saying, I was just raped, and then cry, and then write on a piece of paper the date and hold up a newspaper, and then turn the TV on. 0.99
00:41:47.000 Go to your roommates and film yourself telling them she just raped me. 0.99
00:41:50.000 Then, if it ever comes up, you could be like, Here's a video I made of that night saying she had raped me. 0.99
00:41:53.000 I was just too scared because of the political ramifications. 0.56
00:41:56.000 Or, or, or just call the cops on her.
00:41:58.000 You could also get her ahead of time, be like, Look, I need consent, but I need to put on video.
00:42:03.000 We're going to record the whole thing.
00:42:05.000 You're going to say on video, we're both going to acknowledge consent before we begin.
00:42:07.000 So you hit record.
00:42:08.000 What?
00:42:08.000 It's not good enough.
00:42:09.000 And then you get a video because you deep fake it?
00:42:11.000 No, because we all.
00:42:13.000 I'm joking, by the way.
00:42:14.000 I'm not saying.
00:42:15.000 I understand.
00:42:16.000 What I'm telling you is that we've already had these cases where a man actually had gotten written consent from her, like via text messages, and she argued she was pressured into texting him and she didn't want to consent, but had no choice.
00:42:29.000 And they're like, okay, it's rape.
00:42:31.000 Right.
00:42:32.000 Confessions under duress. 0.99
00:42:34.000 Your only move as a guy is to immediately report the woman you just banged for rape. 0.98
00:42:38.000 And of course, if you like her, you're not going to do that. 0.96
00:42:40.000 Like, what a conundrum.
00:42:41.000 Sorry, were you about to say something?
00:42:42.000 No, I just can't believe this.
00:42:43.000 I mean, it's just like, I don't really know what.
00:42:46.000 Everyone knows everything, everywhere, all the time is rape.
00:42:51.000 Yeah. 0.95
00:42:51.000 It just means it's over. 0.95
00:42:53.000 It's like, what else can we do?
00:42:56.000 That seems to be the only thing now.
00:42:57.000 You say you've got to accuse every girl. 0.93
00:43:00.000 Right.
00:43:01.000 Yeah.
00:43:01.000 So I don't know.
00:43:02.000 I feel for the guys.
00:43:04.000 It's tough.
00:43:05.000 I feel for the girl too, because I think sex is different for women. 0.99
00:43:07.000 You know, once it happens, it changes women in a different way than it changes. 0.95
00:43:11.000 I don't know. 0.50
00:43:11.000 What are you guys talking about? 0.50
00:43:12.000 I don't feel for any of them.
00:43:13.000 They're ketamine gangbangs.
00:43:14.000 Not the, I mean, guys in general.
00:43:15.000 Oh, guys in general.
00:43:16.000 Like if you're putting up with this, you know, that's, it's pretty tough.
00:43:18.000 Yeah.
00:43:19.000 Even if a guy gets a win to fill out a form, she'll say, I didn't sign it.
00:43:22.000 Or she'll be like, they forced me to.
00:43:22.000 Yeah.
00:43:24.000 Ian, were you saying that you should record the entire like happening of the sex so you can later go back and be like, this is what happened?
00:43:31.000 She liked every minute.
00:43:32.000 We will break it down frame by frame.
00:43:33.000 Not one time did she complain.
00:43:35.000 And then she'll go, I had to pretend that I liked it, otherwise he'd kill me. 1.00
00:43:39.000 And then all the women are going to be like, I know exactly what she's saying. 0.99
00:43:44.000 And the guy's like, I asked her if she likes it. 0.98
00:43:46.000 She said, yeah.
00:43:47.000 It's like that we played that video yesterday where there's a woman and she goes to a bunch of women and men.
00:43:52.000 She's like, if you had a night where you're completely safe, what would you do?
00:43:55.000 And the women are all like, I'd go for a walk. 1.00
00:43:57.000 And then all these women are like, oh, it's so scary to be a woman, even though men are more likely to be victims of violent crime. 0.93
00:44:03.000 This is what happens.
00:44:04.000 Literally, no matter what happens, if a woman's like, oh, yeah, like I told him yes, but because I was scared. 0.85
00:44:12.000 Remember that video, 10 hours of walking through New York as a woman? 0.99
00:44:15.000 Yeah.
00:44:17.000 Literally, it's a woman walking in New York.
00:44:19.000 Some of the guys are creepy for sure, but some of the guys are like, morning.
00:44:23.000 And they call that sexual harassment.
00:44:25.000 A guy says, how are you doing, ma'am?
00:44:27.000 And they're like sexual harassment.
00:44:28.000 And there's a slew of gym videos of girls with like guys looking at them while they're working out. 0.90
00:44:32.000 And there are a few creeps, but then you see one, she's like, What?
00:44:35.000 What?
00:44:36.000 And it's, he's like, What do you mean, what?
00:44:38.000 And she's like, You, you call your manager.
00:44:41.000 Are you harassed?
00:44:41.000 He's like, I am the manager.
00:44:43.000 You're, get off my property.
00:44:44.000 And she's like, Oh, oh, oh, okay. 1.00
00:44:46.000 It's just so crazy how women think they're being harassed when they're not sometimes. 1.00
00:44:51.000 That's a little too much.
00:44:52.000 And I think that's like social pressure and like internet psychosis of like young kids thinking they should be a boy when they're a girl and like a woman thinking they should be a rape victim when they're not.
00:45:01.000 And I'm not just saying it's only on young kids and women.
00:45:03.000 Like, men obviously take on that persona induced psychosis.
00:45:07.000 I've used the word three times on the shows of our psychosis, but the phenomenon's crazy.
00:45:15.000 The oversensitivity to like gender communication.
00:45:18.000 A lot of girls are saying that men, which I disagree.
00:45:21.000 I think men are actually really good at holding each other to account.
00:45:23.000 Like, if you're in a group of guys and there's a creeper, no one wants to hang out with him.
00:45:28.000 It's like, okay, you're scaring off all the women.
00:45:29.000 Like, don't be afraid. 0.90
00:45:30.000 And invite that guy to come with you.
00:45:31.000 It's like, you don't want him to come to the bar with you.
00:45:31.000 Right.
00:45:33.000 You're a creep. 0.91
00:45:33.000 So, actually, you know, I think men are actually pretty good at holding each other to account. 0.91
00:45:38.000 But there seems to be, you know, I saw a lot of people saying that their group chat had 50 people in it and none of the people immediately reported, like, they were supposed to call the police and say, hey, there's a horny girl at the frat house.
00:45:50.000 Like, and women are like, how the 50 men didn't step up.
00:45:53.000 Some of the guys were asleep until like 4 a.m., and they're getting accused as well.
00:45:56.000 So, yeah, the whole thing is crazy.
00:45:58.000 I think guys in their right mind, sometimes some guys are good at keeping other guys in account.
00:46:03.000 Those are usually men that are destined for leadership, but a lot of men are just like predatorial animals.
00:46:10.000 Like, and I don't know what the numbers are. 0.99
00:46:11.000 You know, a lot of humanity is just a bunch of plebs, like common man, 80% of the population doesn't think beyond their first order or their third order or whatever. 0.99
00:46:20.000 Um, But that doesn't discount what you're saying that all those guys, like, I don't know. 0.99
00:46:25.000 Plus, when you add alcohol, it's harder for guys to make other dudes take account because they've destroyed their frontal cord, their low back.
00:46:32.000 And also ketamine.
00:46:33.000 Yeah, that'll do it.
00:46:35.000 That's a pretty hard drug.
00:46:36.000 That's pretty intense.
00:46:38.000 I didn't realize the kids are doing ketamine.
00:46:39.000 No, not at all.
00:46:40.000 Men should keep each other in account for that kind of thing.
00:46:43.000 I think they're better at doing that. 0.90
00:46:45.000 What?
00:46:45.000 I think they're good at doing that.
00:46:46.000 You know, every time I've been out and there's a guy who's like being a creep, yeah, because it ruins it for everyone else.
00:46:51.000 You don't want to be the creepy group.
00:46:53.000 So, but unless every guy in the group is a creep already, yeah, and they just enforce each other, which, sorry, Phil, you were about to.
00:47:01.000 I mean, the idea that men don't police their own, like that, that is something that men have done forever.
00:47:10.000 It is true that when you get a group of guys behaving badly, there's definitely tribal kind of the, you know, go along with it.
00:47:20.000 But like, I mean, mostly, at least the dudes that I know, if there are dudes that are kind of misbehaving, they'll be like, all right, I'm out of here. 0.99
00:47:31.000 I mean, I've been in, personally, I've been in situations where I'm like, all right, it's time to go, you know, don't go stupid places with stupid people and do stupid things. 0.99
00:47:40.000 If someone busts out cocaine, kick them out of the party. 1.00
00:47:43.000 That's my advice.
00:47:45.000 Well, yeah.
00:47:45.000 Yeah.
00:47:45.000 You know what?
00:47:46.000 To that point, like, all that remains has a rule.
00:47:48.000 Like, that kind of stuff doesn't happen on the bus.
00:47:50.000 You don't bring it on our bus.
00:47:52.000 We don't want, none of us do it, and no one in the band does that kind of stuff.
00:47:56.000 So it's like, don't bring it on the bus.
00:47:58.000 Like, it will fall on us.
00:48:01.000 We're the ones that are renting it, we're the ones that are paying for it.
00:48:04.000 So if you go off with your friends and do something that's fine, but you leave it with them or leave it somewhere else, don't bring it on the bus.
00:48:10.000 You know? 1.00
00:48:12.000 Don't do stupid, don't go stupid places and do stupid things with stupid people. 1.00
00:48:12.000 Drugs are bad. 1.00
00:48:16.000 Some drugs are bad.
00:48:17.000 Some drugs are good, Ian.
00:48:19.000 Hey, there's some drugs are legal.
00:48:21.000 Be responsible.
00:48:22.000 I'm talking about aspirin.
00:48:25.000 Everyone's talking about marijuana.
00:48:27.000 No, you don't.
00:48:29.000 Anything in the wrong dose is pretty bad.
00:48:31.000 So, bro, sugar in the wrong dose is bad.
00:48:33.000 Salt will kill you.
00:48:34.000 Yeah, water will kill you.
00:48:36.000 But some drugs are definitely more powerful and dangerous than other drugs.
00:48:40.000 Ketamine.
00:48:40.000 I've never done ketamine, fentanyl.
00:48:42.000 It was very salty and I didn't like it.
00:48:42.000 I tasted it actually.
00:48:44.000 I've never done fentanyl.
00:48:46.000 I had a dip on my, and I was like, God, it was super salty.
00:48:46.000 I took ketamine.
00:48:50.000 I think it's a salt.
00:48:51.000 I'm not sure.
00:48:52.000 I don't think they do it for the taste, but yeah, you're supposed to like do a bunch.
00:48:54.000 She's like, just do a bunch at once.
00:48:56.000 I'm like, that's not how I roll, man.
00:48:57.000 I got to know what I'm getting into.
00:48:59.000 I have no idea.
00:49:00.000 Again, like when everyone's like, oh, pay off our student loans, give us student loan forgiveness.
00:49:04.000 I'm like, oh, why? 0.87
00:49:05.000 They're getting student loans for ketamine gangbangs.
00:49:06.000 I ain't paying for that.
00:49:08.000 It's true.
00:49:09.000 I don't want to pay you.
00:49:09.000 It is.
00:49:10.000 Dude, I knew people when I was 20 years ago, when my friends were in college.
00:49:15.000 20 years, it's been a long time.
00:49:16.000 I'm in Chicago and they've got tens of thousands of dollars in student loans.
00:49:20.000 They're just partying.
00:49:20.000 And what are they doing?
00:49:21.000 I'd go to the bar.
00:49:22.000 I'd be like, Friday night, and they'd be like, hey, we're all going out to the bar.
00:49:24.000 Like, we're by UIC or something.
00:49:25.000 And I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll meet up with you guys.
00:49:27.000 And I'm like, I'm broke because I just work, right?
00:49:29.000 And they're buying drinks like crazy.
00:49:31.000 And I was just like, man, you guys like spending 100 bucks on drinks.
00:49:34.000 And they're like, well, I got student loans.
00:49:35.000 So I'm like, what?
00:49:38.000 I knew one dude who got scammed out of five grand in student loans because he gave it away.
00:49:43.000 Oh, brutal.
00:49:44.000 I told him not to give him the money.
00:49:45.000 He did anyway, and then he got scammed.
00:49:46.000 I used it for living, dorm expenses, and like my food court.
00:49:50.000 But it was only like $9,000 a semester when I was going in like 2000.
00:49:56.000 I'm lucky that I, this is all about me right now, but I skipped the whole drinking thing until I was 23.
00:50:01.000 I didn't start messing with alcohol until I was 23.
00:50:04.000 So I didn't get, I didn't fall apart in college.
00:50:07.000 A lot of people were just getting by because they would drink.
00:50:09.000 It was just parties, dude.
00:50:11.000 I think that's an interesting thing about the alcohol because in England, obviously, the drinking age is 18.
00:50:16.000 So, when you go to your first year of university, usually what happens if the drinking age is 18, you start like two, three years before, right?
00:50:22.000 By the time you get to 21 in Europe, you're kind of moved on to like wine bars and you're not really doing the shots anymore.
00:50:28.000 But the 21 year olds in this country feel like they're a little bit more immature, I think.
00:50:33.000 It's kind of interesting.
00:50:33.000 If you can't start drinking until you're 21, maybe you have your first drink at like 19, which is crazy.
00:50:39.000 By 19 in England, we're, you know, wine and you've done all the partying.
00:50:43.000 So, the drinking age is interesting here.
00:50:45.000 I've always found that confusing.
00:50:47.000 You keep them until.
00:50:48.000 21 until you can drink, it seems kind of old.
00:50:50.000 Why is it?
00:50:52.000 And not that you have the answer, but in the U.S., why did they?
00:50:55.000 18 is an adult, and they had the drinking age at 18, and then they raised it to 21, and car accidents declined sharply, and a lot of people didn't die because of it.
00:51:09.000 So, 18 year olds make worse decisions than 21 year olds.
00:51:13.000 So, you add alcohol to that and lowers inhibition.
00:51:16.000 They think they can think they're sober enough to drive.
00:51:19.000 And Europe, it's a different situation because not everybody drives in the U.S. to drive, yeah, everybody drives.
00:51:26.000 Everyone, you know, a teenager gets a car, 18, 19, whatever.
00:51:30.000 So, one of the main reasons why they have the drinking age of 21, the federal government said to all the states, you have to raise the drinking age to 21.
00:51:38.000 And they, hold on, hold on.
00:51:39.000 And they said, no, we don't want to.
00:51:41.000 And then the Fed said, well, we're going to withhold federal Department of Transportation money unless you raise the drinking age to 21.
00:51:47.000 So, the federal government used the Department of Transportation and money for roads, basically for interstates, as leverage to get the states to agree.
00:51:57.000 Is it then possible that?
00:51:58.000 Uh, now that we have the dawning of the age of automated driving, we can lower the drinking age again.
00:52:06.000 I wouldn't be surprised if when there were significantly more cars on the road that are self driving, people talked about that.
00:52:16.000 But you also have to remember, we're a country that outlawed alcohol for a while, and that didn't work out so great, but we did.
00:52:26.000 And I don't think that Americans' attitudes towards drinking are similar to European attitudes towards drinking, right?
00:52:33.000 It might happen in the future, but I don't know.
00:52:35.000 We're like descendants of the Puritans, the Brownians that fled the debaucherous English, you know, 1660 or whatever. 0.72
00:52:44.000 If you want to have drinks and stuff, I mean, it's legal, it's fine. 0.91
00:52:47.000 I can't think of anything that alcohol makes better.
00:52:51.000 Like, there is no.
00:52:52.000 There is.
00:52:53.000 But it's only a tiny bit.
00:52:54.000 There is no thing that I can think of that is worse in my life because I don't drink.
00:53:02.000 But alcohol, that's the problem with it the dose.
00:53:04.000 They give you a bottle of beer.
00:53:05.000 It's probably like eight doses in one bottle.
00:53:08.000 You only need about an eighth of that to get the benefit from it.
00:53:11.000 And then after that, you just start to get intoxicated.
00:53:13.000 I don't think that there's really any benefit from drinking.
00:53:15.000 Well, they say it lowers blood pressure.
00:53:17.000 It can be really good for hardened arteries and things.
00:53:19.000 I've heard.
00:53:21.000 I've heard stories about that, but I don't think that those stories have been debunked.
00:53:26.000 I don't think that there's anything.
00:53:28.000 That's beneficial about drinking.
00:53:30.000 How long have you not been drinking for?
00:53:32.000 Last time I had, last time I, I used to drink a lot, like daily drinking, drinking vodka straight, like, you know, last, but the last time I was like regularly drinking was 2017.
00:53:46.000 Wow.
00:53:47.000 And I've had a handful of drinks since.
00:53:49.000 So, oh, I was going to say something awesome.
00:53:53.000 Yeah.
00:53:54.000 And there's nothing in my life that's worse without drinking.
00:53:57.000 And I don't really have much of a problem.
00:53:59.000 I was talking to the guest last night, Jeremy, about smoking cigarettes.
00:54:02.000 I miss Marlboro's.
00:54:04.000 Oh, interesting.
00:54:05.000 I miss Marlboro's a whole lot.
00:54:06.000 I would.
00:54:07.000 Do you still go to the same places?
00:54:08.000 Do you go to like bars and things where you would miss drinking?
00:54:10.000 Because that's.
00:54:11.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:54:12.000 I mean, I'm in a band and I, you know, that's the kind of main thing.
00:54:15.000 You don't miss it as well.
00:54:16.000 My main thing.
00:54:17.000 And when we're on tour, no problem.
00:54:18.000 I find it like I've done like sober nights.
00:54:21.000 Drunk people are really annoying to be around. 0.95
00:54:22.000 They're the worst. 0.91
00:54:24.000 So then it's like you kind of just want to get drunk just to put up with them.
00:54:26.000 Bro.
00:54:26.000 No, you want to tell them to get out.
00:54:28.000 From the age of 16 to 23, all my friends would drink, not all of them, but drunk.
00:54:32.000 I would hold dudes' hairs while they were, one guy was puking in the sink.
00:54:36.000 I would clean the sink for it.
00:54:37.000 I was the sober guy for like seven years.
00:54:39.000 But I didn't want to drink more.
00:54:40.000 I was more disgusted by it the more I would watch and smell it.
00:54:43.000 I was like, what are these animals doing to them? 1.00
00:54:46.000 They're just so dumb. 1.00
00:54:47.000 Like they would disappear and then the husk would be like having a hard time. 1.00
00:54:51.000 I'm like, bro, you were my friend 20 minutes ago, and now I don't even see you.
00:54:54.000 The worst.
00:54:55.000 Oh, God.
00:54:56.000 But I'm telling you, the right dose, because if we go out after the show, I'm going to get a beer these last Fridays, and I'll get like a small, dark beer, and I'll drink like this much of it, like a fifth of it, just to get an, like, I don't want to get drunk.
00:55:09.000 I don't want to feel loopy.
00:55:11.000 Once it happens, then it's like, oh, I want to keep feeling this.
00:55:14.000 You know, I know that experience, but if you can just get the health, it's kind of like drinking kombucha a little bit, you know?
00:55:22.000 Like a gut shot of like vinegar or something.
00:55:24.000 That's fun.
00:55:25.000 Not a fan of kombucha, but.
00:55:26.000 Really?
00:55:27.000 I mean, yeah.
00:55:28.000 But I mean, look, even this situation, right?
00:55:30.000 Like, this situation would be totally different if they weren't drinking.
00:55:33.000 Well, that was obviously the trigger for it, right?
00:55:35.000 They didn't open with the ketamine, they start with the drinking and then it leads onto that.
00:55:39.000 So, have a couple drinks to get loosened up, lower your inhibitions, start doing some drugs, drink some more, really lower your inhibitions. 0.99
00:55:49.000 Next thing you know, you're doing ketamine off a stranger's penis. 0.98
00:55:52.000 I don't know if you guys got the right off the tip. 0.98
00:55:56.000 I don't know if you guys did the DARE program growing up, drug abuse resistance education.
00:56:01.000 I got it since I was in third grade in 1987 or something.
00:56:05.000 But it told me that marijuana was the gateway drug.
00:56:09.000 And I believed it for 20 years.
00:56:10.000 And then I realized it was alcohol.
00:56:13.000 And society makes so much money off of it that it's like they won't come out and say, yo, this is the gateway drug.
00:56:17.000 When you drink, you lower your inhibitions, it makes you way more susceptible.
00:56:21.000 It's already changed, though.
00:56:21.000 Gen Z aren't drinking anything like what the older generations are drinking.
00:56:25.000 So it's certainly changing. 0.62
00:56:28.000 If you go to like college towns now, a lot of the bars are not as busy as they certainly used to be.
00:56:31.000 So, the whole thing you mentioned, dare like, dare is one of the major reasons why I never tried Coke.
00:56:38.000 I thought that my heart would explode.
00:56:40.000 You hear stories, oh, dude, that dude did one line of Coke, heart exploded.
00:56:44.000 Like, I ain't touching that stuff.
00:56:45.000 I had a story teacher tell me, like, if I did ecstasy, I would die.
00:56:49.000 So, I never did that.
00:56:50.000 It was part of why I didn't drink or smoke pots until I was 23.
00:56:53.000 So, I guess it worked, huh?
00:56:55.000 I mean, hey.
00:56:57.000 They lied.
00:56:58.000 It's like sometimes lying to people is worth it because it'll get them to do the right thing and you don't need to really tell them why you're lying.
00:57:04.000 Sometimes, like, I get it.
00:57:06.000 Don't ask, don't tell.
00:57:07.000 But, like, I just felt betrayed because after I found out weed was so much more benign than I had been taught.
00:57:12.000 And the whole, like, you know, William Randolph Hearst making it illegal with the reefer madness in the 30s, like the whole kind of thing.
00:57:20.000 I don't know.
00:57:20.000 You're selling the weed hard.
00:57:21.000 I actually disagree.
00:57:22.000 I know.
00:57:23.000 You talk about what.
00:57:24.000 Alcohol does to people.
00:57:25.000 I see what weed does to my friends.
00:57:27.000 I think it can be pretty devastating to people because look, maybe you drink on a Friday night, but you go around to someone on a Wednesday morning and they're smoking weed.
00:57:36.000 They're high as hell.
00:57:37.000 I think the legalization of weed is certainly causing a lot of problems for younger people.
00:57:42.000 Two responses to that, because I believe you, is one is dosage.
00:57:47.000 If you're overdosing on anything, it's a problem, whether it's weed at 4 a.m. or whatever, it's a problem.
00:57:52.000 Secondly, they've changed weed a lot in the last 20 years.
00:57:54.000 Now, the THC levels are like 32%, when they used to be like six, eight.
00:57:59.000 And they'll strip CBD out of the plant sometimes, which is you need it to balance the THC.
00:58:06.000 You need the cannabidiol or CBG.
00:58:09.000 You need these precursors to the healing elements that aren't psychoactive.
00:58:13.000 If they strip that out just to give you a psycho dose, psycho, that word is in the term psychoactive, it can make you very psycho.
00:58:22.000 That's my problem with weed.
00:58:23.000 And I don't think people have been educated about that, the changes in the potency of it.
00:58:28.000 Yeah, everyone's doing the vapes now.
00:58:29.000 It's not the actual plant like it used to be.
00:58:32.000 I don't know.
00:58:33.000 It's certainly one of the ones that, you know, if you went to a McDonald's to get a drive through and everyone was drunk, you'd be like, this is crazy.
00:58:40.000 But you go, everyone's high.
00:58:42.000 Everyone working in these sort of jobs are completely high these days.
00:58:44.000 And I think it's a big problem.
00:58:46.000 Yeah, the over medication of society in general. 0.99
00:58:49.000 Because at pharmaceuticals, I see people on Adderall and shit that are like high as hell. 0.96
00:58:53.000 And you just, it's kind of accepted because it's legal, but it's probably way worse. 0.99
00:58:56.000 Prescribed.
00:58:57.000 Yeah, right.
00:58:58.000 A doctor, it's not only legal, a guy told him to do it.
00:59:01.000 A trusted professional told him to do it.
00:59:01.000 Yeah.
00:59:03.000 And when the government are pushing it, when like in the UK, there's a big push to make weed legal, but at the same time, they're making.
00:59:09.000 So if you're born after 2008 now, you will never be allowed to buy cigarettes.
00:59:13.000 Dude, what is up with that?
00:59:14.000 It's crazy.
00:59:15.000 But they're allowing weed.
00:59:16.000 It's weird.
00:59:16.000 It's like, okay, they.
00:59:18.000 I don't know.
00:59:19.000 I'm big on the nicotine.
00:59:20.000 I think if you look at the guys who did the NASA, they're all like chain smoking.
00:59:25.000 Like all of them, the smart people seem to chain smoke.
00:59:28.000 But they weren't smoking weed, that's for sure.
00:59:30.000 Nicotine men make good times.
00:59:32.000 Good times make weed dudes. 0.97
00:59:33.000 Weed dudes make bad times. 0.92
00:59:35.000 Bad times make nicotine men.
00:59:36.000 When does ketamine guys come into that?
00:59:39.000 I don't think they're involved.
00:59:40.000 I don't think they're involved.
00:59:41.000 Having sex outside.
00:59:43.000 The nicotine, it's neuroprotective.
00:59:45.000 It's got a massive value.
00:59:47.000 Nicotine is a met, but of course, overdosing can harm you and smoking.
00:59:50.000 Anything can produce a lot of too much toxin in your lungs.
00:59:53.000 But, like, I think you, Carter, last night you were saying that there's a country where there's a black market for tobacco.
00:59:58.000 Was that you?
00:59:59.000 Someone was saying that yesterday.
01:00:00.000 No, it was Jeremy Hambley.
01:00:01.000 Oh, yeah, he said that.
01:00:02.000 Australia.
01:00:03.000 So, like, are you foreseeing something like a black market for tobacco arising if they make it?
01:00:07.000 I mean, it's crazy.
01:00:08.000 Like, and it's about what the government controls.
01:00:10.000 Like, they literally are banning kids from smoking.
01:00:12.000 So, I guess if you're born in 2007, you'll be selling.
01:00:16.000 So, you'll be able to buy cigarettes, but someone born, you know, on the 1st of January won't be able to buy them ever.
01:00:21.000 And this is the same thing with like drinking here.
01:00:23.000 Like, I don't know anyone, I mean, That abides by the whole 21 law.
01:00:28.000 Right.
01:00:28.000 Kids still get alcohol, and there's always one guy with a fake ID that everyone goes to, so it's a black market for that, too.
01:00:34.000 I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it means that even when they're like in their 30s, they're not going to be allowed to buy cigarettes.
01:00:39.000 What is up?
01:00:40.000 What are they doing?
01:00:41.000 Is that not harvest the economy?
01:00:43.000 What's that?
01:00:44.000 Trying to make it illegal for people to smoke.
01:00:46.000 So they're not like a tobacco rich economy, England.
01:00:48.000 Like the U.S. is probably a huge tobacco industry in the U.S. Look, if you go to X, right, there is no Marlboro X account.
01:00:56.000 There's no Lucky Strike X account.
01:00:59.000 There's no Newport X account.
01:01:02.000 But there's a Philip Morris X account.
01:01:04.000 And all Philip Morris does is tweet about how they're putting themselves out of business intentionally.
01:01:10.000 It is not socially acceptable to smoke here in the U.S. still.
01:01:13.000 It's coming back.
01:01:14.000 I see it coming back.
01:01:16.000 I think that there are more people that smoke, and there definitely is.
01:01:20.000 So, even at the VMAs, performers were smoking on the stage.
01:01:23.000 Yeah.
01:01:23.000 Cigarettes are cool again.
01:01:25.000 That is true, but it's not something that society's going to.
01:01:28.000 You're never going to see the Marlboro man.
01:01:30.000 Okay, I'll tell you one thing about cigarettes.
01:01:31.000 This has been my biggest disappointment with America.
01:01:34.000 My favorite thing in Europe is you go to a bar, you get a drink, you have your drink, and then you go to the smoking area.
01:01:40.000 And that's where you talk to people, right?
01:01:42.000 And if there's a nice person you want to chat up, you do the fake thing.
01:01:45.000 Have you got a lighter?
01:01:46.000 I've got a lighter in my pocket.
01:01:47.000 But it's a way to open conversation with people, talk to people.
01:01:50.000 You don't have that here.
01:01:51.000 You go to a bar and you're just in that loud room the whole time.
01:01:54.000 There's no chance to talk to people.
01:01:55.000 The smoking area is the best place to be.
01:01:58.000 It used to be they smoked indoors.
01:01:59.000 I don't know if that was what it was.
01:02:01.000 And that was, for me as a non smoker, it was pretty rough.
01:02:03.000 My parents even smoked inside when I was like one.
01:02:05.000 And then there was a new rule no more smoke in the house. 0.99
01:02:08.000 The cars would smell like ass. 0.99
01:02:09.000 You're too young to remember smoking on airplanes, huh? 1.00
01:02:11.000 Yeah.
01:02:12.000 Never, never was on an airplane.
01:02:13.000 I think I flew for the first time in 2001.
01:02:15.000 It happened in England when they banned smoking inside.
01:02:18.000 And then they realized that all of the nightclubs had carpets and they absolutely stunk.
01:02:21.000 The smoke was covering the smell of like hundreds of years of alcohol in the carpets.
01:02:26.000 So they were like, okay, we've got to figure this out.
01:02:28.000 So, smoke to the carpets are legit.
01:02:31.000 I mean, I love the smoking area.
01:02:32.000 That's the best thing.
01:02:32.000 I think an outdoor, you know, corral, or I think I'd love it if every place could have one, a courtyard, but some places just don't have the money for it or something.
01:02:39.000 And then they just got a little place in the middle of it.
01:02:41.000 Every place in Europe has an outdoor terrace, a smoking area.
01:02:44.000 It's great.
01:02:45.000 That's the place to be.
01:02:45.000 That's how you make friends.
01:02:46.000 That's where you meet people.
01:02:47.000 That's the fun part of Europe.
01:02:49.000 So, if they want to bring cigarettes back, y'all make healthy ones.
01:02:52.000 I know it's not super healthy to smoke anything.
01:02:54.000 There is no such thing as a healthy cigarette.
01:02:56.000 Dispense with all that additive.
01:02:58.000 There is no such thing as a healthy cigarette.
01:03:01.000 American spirits are like just tobacco, if I understand correctly.
01:03:06.000 At least this is what they're.
01:03:07.000 They take forever to smoke.
01:03:08.000 That's the problem with those.
01:03:10.000 I mean, well, like Marlboro's, they put stuff in them to make them burn faster.
01:03:10.000 Yeah.
01:03:13.000 So that way you actually have to smoke more cigarettes.
01:03:16.000 They have min maxed cigarettes.
01:03:18.000 In the United States, they min max cigarettes to the perfect level to make them ultra addictive and also make as much money as they could.
01:03:28.000 They burn faster here.
01:03:30.000 They put stuff to make them more addictive.
01:03:34.000 I wish that if they didn't give you cancer and emphysema and stuff like that, I would still be smoking today.
01:03:38.000 Who does?
01:03:39.000 No, I mean, look, nah.
01:03:41.000 I mean, I don't want COPD.
01:03:42.000 And you're talking to a guy that misses cigarettes more than anything.
01:03:47.000 Believe me, If they weren't bad for you, I know.
01:03:50.000 I don't smoke, but I do like if I'm drinking, I'll have a cigarette.
01:03:53.000 And it's fun.
01:03:54.000 It's a shareable thing.
01:03:55.000 You share it with people.
01:03:57.000 But yeah, my first American spirit, I'm like halfway done.
01:04:00.000 I'm like ready to be finished, and it's still got like 30.
01:04:02.000 You had it for 45 minutes, and you're like, I've got 30 seconds.
01:04:04.000 What is this?
01:04:05.000 This is American spirit, tobacco without the flavorings, humectants, and other tobacco additives.
01:04:10.000 It doesn't have that, but it does have other things added into the cigarettes.
01:04:14.000 Like, what does it say here?
01:04:18.000 Cigarette paper, obviously, filters, adhesives.
01:04:21.000 Other manufacturing components to this whole thing.
01:04:23.000 This will help you to drink longer because you have a cigarette, it sort of soaps you up a little bit, brings you back, and then you go and have another drink.
01:04:29.000 Extends the night.
01:04:30.000 I would do like a little bit.
01:04:31.000 I should be sponsored by Flip Morris.
01:04:33.000 Like, I can have a drink, no problem.
01:04:36.000 I can have maybe one or two drinks and be like, okay, I don't want to have any more.
01:04:41.000 Tell you what, if I have a cigarette or two, that's it.
01:04:43.000 I'm buying a carton.
01:04:45.000 What?
01:04:45.000 You do the Zinn?
01:04:46.000 Yeah.
01:04:46.000 So that doesn't make you want a cigarette, though?
01:04:48.000 Not more than normal, no.
01:04:50.000 No.
01:04:50.000 Interesting.
01:04:51.000 I started buying tobacco leaves just directly from manufacturers.
01:04:54.000 I'd get a big, fresh, South American leaf and then I'd let it dry on my counter and then break it up and crush it up into powder and sprinkle it a little on top of a bowl of weed.
01:05:04.000 My buddy called them molars, is what they used to call them.
01:05:04.000 And I'd do those.
01:05:07.000 But I could do that.
01:05:08.000 And I never got addicted to it.
01:05:09.000 I don't know why.
01:05:10.000 Because I didn't smoke until I was 23 or 27 or something.
01:05:13.000 I never really, cigarettes, tobacco.
01:05:15.000 So I never developed an addiction or just the way I'm doing it.
01:05:18.000 I'd never touch, only two or three times have I ever had a night where I touched those garbage artificial ones with like, you know, all of them that the industry wants to sell you.
01:05:27.000 They're all bad for you. 0.93
01:05:28.000 And the ones with the garbage artificial stuff are the best. 0.84
01:05:33.000 They're the best.
01:05:34.000 No, no.
01:05:34.000 I think pure tobacco, only for health value, is the best.
01:05:38.000 Okay.
01:05:38.000 So no cigarettes are healthy.
01:05:40.000 You can eat it too.
01:05:41.000 You are, you are.
01:05:43.000 Bringing smoke into your lungs that is not good for you.
01:05:46.000 You know what, the probably, I think you can't eat it.
01:05:48.000 I used it as a spice in stew.
01:05:50.000 It's very, very spicy, kind of like mint.
01:05:51.000 It tastes almost like mint, but it's very, no, it tastes more like black pepper.
01:05:55.000 Yeah, but I mean, what I'll do is I'll crush up and just like throw it in powder like pepper into the stew.
01:06:00.000 Can't even, I mean, it's spicy.
01:06:02.000 It is a bad thing to smoke at all.
01:06:06.000 Like it's not good for your lungs.
01:06:08.000 Inhaling things that, like cigarette smoke or even vape stuff, like vaping may be less bad for you.
01:06:16.000 But it's still bad for you.
01:06:17.000 There is no safe cigarette.
01:06:19.000 There is no safe vape.
01:06:21.000 That being said, the ones that are the worst are the ones that are the best.
01:06:26.000 Oh, you mean like the most enjoyable?
01:06:28.000 Marlboro Red's the best.
01:06:30.000 I don't really.
01:06:31.000 I do.
01:06:31.000 I smoked too.
01:06:32.000 Did you ever get that feeling where it just felt like cold in your lungs after?
01:06:35.000 Because it's like kills all the sensitivity.
01:06:37.000 It's like the menthol ones.
01:06:37.000 No.
01:06:38.000 Those will do that.
01:06:39.000 I smoked for like 30 years, dude.
01:06:41.000 How many were you doing a day?
01:06:43.000 I'd smoke a pack a day.
01:06:44.000 Wow.
01:06:45.000 Yeah.
01:06:45.000 They were.
01:06:46.000 Wow.
01:06:46.000 Yeah.
01:06:47.000 I heard that during COVID, people that had been smoking actually weren't getting hit as hard because it was doing something in their lungs to prevent the COVID, whatever, the virus to get into.
01:07:00.000 That's your one good thing about smoking, then.
01:07:02.000 Well, I mean, aside from it's awesome.
01:07:04.000 Yeah.
01:07:05.000 You know, you look cool.
01:07:07.000 It's awesome.
01:07:07.000 Yeah.
01:07:08.000 Yeah, but it's terrible for your health.
01:07:11.000 I think the weed, I don't mind as much because you smoke it and then you're high for like two or three hours.
01:07:16.000 With cigarettes, it's like six minutes or eight minutes.
01:07:18.000 And then, like, I'm like, oh, the buzz is gone.
01:07:20.000 Now I feel a little weird.
01:07:21.000 But with weed, it's like one and done, baby.
01:07:23.000 Now I can get to work.
01:07:24.000 I mean, I never felt weird after smoking a cigarette.
01:07:28.000 Like, you would get a little bit of a rush or whatever.
01:07:31.000 But after that, it wasn't like, oh, I'm coming down off my cigarette.
01:07:37.000 The only coming down was, I want another cigarette.
01:07:39.000 You know?
01:07:39.000 Yeah.
01:07:41.000 That was easily rectified by going and having another awesome cigarette.
01:07:48.000 Did you ever do nicotine patches?
01:07:50.000 I did those, yeah.
01:07:51.000 Do you like.
01:07:52.000 I don't know.
01:07:53.000 Nicotine patches worked, but the place you put them on would itch.
01:07:59.000 Wait, where do you put them?
01:08:00.000 Your arm, I bet.
01:08:03.000 I would end up putting them on my calf because the arm you move around a lot, whereas the calf doesn't have the same kind of.
01:08:10.000 It doesn't move as much as your upper shoulder or whatever.
01:08:13.000 So I put them on my calf.
01:08:14.000 But they would itch uncontrollably with a terrible smile.
01:08:18.000 Hated them.
01:08:19.000 Soothe them with water or something after.
01:08:20.000 They worked.
01:08:21.000 I think you guys are having too much fun, so we're going to go to this story from The Atlantic.
01:08:25.000 The supporters urging Trump to declare martial law for the midterms.
01:08:29.000 It's not really a story.
01:08:31.000 There's prominent Trump supporters, people he's done for a long time, that are going on stage saying if Trump does not declare martial law, we're going to lose and everyone's going to prison.
01:08:38.000 But the media sure is running with it.
01:08:40.000 So, should Trump declare martial law to control what they say is to prevent fraud?
01:08:48.000 He shouldn't.
01:08:51.000 But a lot of people are going to go to jail.
01:08:55.000 Like, all of the, if the, If the Republicans don't control the House, all the committees and the assignments and stuff are going to change.
01:09:04.000 You're going to see a lot of Democrats on a lot of committees, and they're going to cause all kinds of investigations.
01:09:10.000 They're going to be bringing people before Congress and accusing them of any number of crimes like supporting conservatives, supporting Donald Trump, agreeing with his policies, things of that nature.
01:09:25.000 So remember, like two years ago, when I was like, we got to stop all of the political.
01:09:29.000 Tit for tat because one side does it to the other, then the other side. 1.00
01:09:32.000 And people, nobody really like said, Hey, you're a stupid idiot. 1.00
01:09:35.000 But people were kind of like, No, you know, we got to go after him when you have the power because they're going to do it. 1.00
01:09:39.000 I think you actually, they're going to do it anyway.
01:09:41.000 You might as well use it.
01:09:43.000 Can you admit now I was right that the ping pong is going to get knocked back in the other direction now?
01:09:48.000 And it's going to be now the Republicans are going to get persecuted and then it's going to get knocked back in 2032.
01:09:52.000 And it's going to get the Democrats worse?
01:09:53.000 Hold on, hold on.
01:09:54.000 There have been no political persecutions of Democrats.
01:09:58.000 Comey, what happened?
01:10:02.000 I don't know.
01:10:02.000 They drug him through the ring or the process is the punishment.
01:10:04.000 They went after him for putting a picture online saying 86 feet.
01:10:07.000 He's 47.
01:10:08.000 He has done, there were no political persecutions of anyone.
01:10:12.000 Comey, like nothing happened for Comey.
01:10:15.000 I don't even think that he actually went in front of Congress.
01:10:17.000 And the things that are going to happen, should the Democrats win the midterms, are going to prove me right.
01:10:26.000 The Republicans have done nothing.
01:10:29.000 That's one of the reasons why people are so upset with the Trump administration is because there was no accountability for the Steele dossier.
01:10:38.000 There was no accountability for all the attacks on putting people from January 6th in prison, people that did nothing wrong.
01:10:47.000 There was no accountability for any of the stuff that happened during COVID.
01:10:50.000 There was no accountability.
01:10:51.000 That's one of the major complaints that people have the Republicans haven't done anything.
01:10:55.000 We've talked about it on this show multiple times.
01:10:58.000 The Republicans have power and they sit on their hands.
01:11:01.000 The Republicans don't do anything, et cetera, et cetera.
01:11:03.000 So, what you prescribed is what has happened.
01:11:07.000 Yeah.
01:11:07.000 No.
01:11:08.000 No, because the Comey thing really pissed a lot out.
01:11:10.000 So, look, you're talking about one.
01:11:12.000 Didn't they go after Jack Smith for stuff?
01:11:12.000 What about Jack Smith?
01:11:14.000 Letitia James, didn't they go after her for something?
01:11:14.000 No.
01:11:16.000 No, they didn't go after her. 0.90
01:11:17.000 They went after her for more fraud.
01:11:18.000 Yeah, they went after Letitia James for more fraud.
01:11:19.000 What happened?
01:11:21.000 Trump's enemies. 1.00
01:11:21.000 But she did that. 1.00
01:11:24.000 But it was like the people that pissed Trump off got investigated, you know.
01:11:27.000 But you're talking about a few.
01:11:30.000 Instances where there was likely criminal behavior.
01:11:33.000 I'm talking about like people that were at the Capitol that didn't even go inside, right?
01:11:39.000 Trump.
01:11:39.000 That was horrible.
01:11:40.000 All that stuff the Biden administration did was horrible.
01:11:41.000 Trump pardoned them against it.
01:11:43.000 And so then the Republicans did nothing to punish the people that actually used the power of government against those people.
01:11:51.000 The one of them, again, one of the major arguments that people have about the Trump administration is he's done nothing to go after.
01:12:00.000 The Democrats.
01:12:00.000 That's one of the reasons why people, why Republicans don't want to go out and vote for Republicans in the midterms.
01:12:06.000 So I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but your prescription has been attempted. 0.92
01:12:13.000 No, I don't agree. 0.98
01:12:14.000 Not completely.
01:12:15.000 It's like saying my prescription is fasting, and you're like, Yeah, but I had a donut earlier.
01:12:19.000 So you're saying that any kind of prosecution of a Democrat, whether there is likely a violation of the law or not, has to be completely off the table or else your prescription hasn't been.
01:12:30.000 I'm saying equal justice.
01:12:32.000 So, like, yeah, Comey put 8647, but like if Pete Hegseth had posted it, equal.
01:12:40.000 Democrats put a guy in prison, Douglas Mackey, for posting memes.
01:12:44.000 Yeah, but I'm not saying because they're bad, we should be worse.
01:12:47.000 I'm not saying because they're bad, we can be as bad as them.
01:12:49.000 I'm saying.
01:12:50.000 Look, don't do the bad thing.
01:12:52.000 Yeah, and the Republicans have done significantly less with the power that they have than the Democrats did prior to Donald Trump returning to power.
01:13:04.000 And you're going to see that they're going to do significantly more when they get back in power.
01:13:09.000 The idea that you can stop people from exercising power by not exercising power over them is wrong.
01:13:17.000 Except you can use it as justification against the masses.
01:13:20.000 You can say, look, we opted not to execute.
01:13:23.000 And now they're coming into power.
01:13:26.000 We expect the same thing.
01:13:27.000 And then the rest of society can be like, yes, we support that righteous momentum.
01:13:31.000 That is not going to happen.
01:13:32.000 It can't be.
01:13:33.000 I didn't say can.
01:13:34.000 It's going to be so.
01:13:35.000 I didn't say whether it could or it's possible.
01:13:38.000 I'm saying that it is not going to happen.
01:13:41.000 The Democrats have already made it clear that they're going to do these things, they've already been campaigning on them.
01:13:47.000 Letitia James is doing the same kind of thing now that she was doing before, that she did against Trump.
01:13:53.000 She's already decided that the Cornell 7 are guilty.
01:13:59.000 This is absolutely the case.
01:14:03.000 They are going to do things like pull normal people before Congress and do whatever they can to not just hamstring the administration, but to use the power of government against people that supported Donald Trump.
01:14:17.000 You may be right.
01:14:18.000 You know, their future's unwritten, but it's without the moral argument of like, look, we didn't do it.
01:14:25.000 You have no moral justification for continuing these witch hunts.
01:14:28.000 Instead, you say, no, well, the Trump administration did do it a little bit.
01:14:31.000 So I guess.
01:14:32.000 I don't think that.
01:14:33.000 First of all, I.
01:14:34.000 I reject the idea that the Trump administration did do it.
01:14:37.000 The Comey thing was insane.
01:14:38.000 Total free speech.
01:14:39.000 I still reject the idea that the Trump administration did it the way that you're describing, right?
01:14:46.000 But that doesn't change the fact that the Democrats are going to do it significantly more than the Republicans did.
01:14:54.000 Even if we grant your argument and say, okay, they overstepped when it came to Comey, right?
01:15:01.000 That doesn't change the fact that the Democrats are going to be going after way more people than just.
01:15:07.000 A handful of people.
01:15:08.000 They're going to be doing everything they can to ensure that they remain in power, put people that supported Donald Trump out of jobs, make sure that if they can, they'll put them in prison.
01:15:20.000 This is absolutely going to happen.
01:15:24.000 I think they come for Ian first.
01:15:26.000 I don't think that Democrats are a mindless monolithic mob.
01:15:31.000 The people can, if they see righteousness done, some people will identify that as a change.
01:15:36.000 Totally disagree with you.
01:15:37.000 Okay, you think a giant.
01:15:39.000 How many?
01:15:40.000 200 million, 150 million people all think the same thing.
01:15:43.000 I think about 100 million people.
01:15:45.000 You think 100 million people think the same thing?
01:15:47.000 There are seven guys.
01:15:48.000 That is not a healthy way to live, bro.
01:15:49.000 There are seven guys who are now facing criminal prosecution despite being victims because a mob demanded it.
01:15:55.000 Yeah, I know.
01:15:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:15:57.000 They will just be mindless mobs, yes.
01:16:00.000 Yeah, but 100 million people are not all thinking the same thing.
01:16:03.000 And then you flip one switch and all 100 million of them then change their idea to a new thing.
01:16:07.000 That's not how it works.
01:16:08.000 That's exactly what happened during COVID.
01:16:09.000 It's been happening since COVID.
01:16:11.000 Yes, yes.
01:16:11.000 Literally.
01:16:12.000 No, you get pockets of people one day and then they think something later in the day.
01:16:16.000 No, two masking happened overnight.
01:16:19.000 Fauci was on TV and says, You don't need to be wearing two masks.
01:16:23.000 A day later, someone asked him, Yeah, but wouldn't two masks be beneficial?
01:16:27.000 He's like, Well, I guess.
01:16:28.000 And then instantly they put up double masking policies everywhere and people were like, You better wear your mask.
01:16:33.000 Even conservatives said not to wear the conservatives when COVID first broke out, told everybody wear masks.
01:16:39.000 Fauci said don't.
01:16:40.000 And so, conservatives were doing it, liberals were not.
01:16:43.000 Literally, in the span of one week, they flipped positions.
01:16:47.000 And even if it's 100 million people, that's less than a third of the country.
01:16:53.000 A third of the country would be 110 million.
01:16:55.000 You maybe got three.
01:16:57.000 Hold on, there's 330 million Americans.
01:17:00.000 So, if you have 100 million people, that's less than a third.
01:17:04.000 So, that's not an everybody thing.
01:17:06.000 It's a large portion, but it doesn't mean that it's still a significant portion of the population.
01:17:13.000 And yes, 100 million people can absolutely think the exact same thing.
01:17:18.000 No, not the exact.
01:17:19.000 They can think in similar directions, but realistically, maybe pockets of like 30 or 40,000 people might think 98% of the same stuff about something.
01:17:28.000 I think you're misjudging the number of people that are very conformist.
01:17:33.000 I think that you don't understand how malleable people's minds are based on what they see and hear.
01:17:38.000 Because if you behave a certain way, it sends out ripples and pitches.
01:17:41.000 But I'm still saying that most, remember, what I'm saying is most people don't think the same as that group, right?
01:17:49.000 You're talking about 230 million people that, if in your scenario, 100 million people think the same.
01:17:55.000 I'm going to just say that's 200.
01:17:56.000 That's how many people identify as the group.
01:17:58.000 Just for easy numbers, 100 million people think the same, and they're a minority because there's still 230 million people that would disagree with them.
01:18:07.000 Yeah, but I don't think they, I'm not saying they think the same.
01:18:10.000 I don't think that many, you ever get that many people thinking, and maybe we're misusing, we have different definitions of what the same means.
01:18:16.000 I mean, literally the same.
01:18:17.000 It's not, or close, nearing the same, which is very unrealistic.
01:18:23.000 Close enough where they would approve of using the government to punish their political opponents.
01:18:29.000 Maybe.
01:18:29.000 But like Tim said, they get a directive one morning on the TV and then they all put on their don't punish people masks.
01:18:35.000 And then, like, they're not going to get that directive.
01:18:37.000 Yeah, but it can happen.
01:18:39.000 It can.
01:18:40.000 That's why you got to be righteous when you act as a leader.
01:18:45.000 That is not going to happen either.
01:18:47.000 But just saying it's not is like that's understanding.
01:18:51.000 That's an unfair way to categorize the future.
01:18:53.000 You're arguing for potential outcomes.
01:18:55.000 It's believing them when they say what they're going to do.
01:19:00.000 Like, I am listening to the things that Democrats say that they want to do, and I believe that they want to do the things that they say they want to do.
01:19:08.000 You probably listened to a thousand of them, maybe less.
01:19:13.000 People in positions of power, those are the people of consequence, the people that will be in positions that will have the power to do the things they want.
01:19:21.000 They don't speak for the masses that have malleable minds.
01:19:23.000 They don't speak for the people that you can.
01:19:25.000 I used to be a Democrat.
01:19:27.000 Now I'm unaffiliated.
01:19:28.000 Like, I'm not.
01:19:29.000 If you do wrong, I'll do that instead.
01:19:31.000 I'm not going to follow.
01:19:34.000 There are many, many people that are good, intelligent people that identify as Democrats that when they see things being done right in the Republican Party, they identify, they agree with it.
01:19:44.000 And they're like, wow, that's actually a good thing.
01:19:46.000 What's going on here?
01:19:48.000 And, but if the Republicans just play the villain that they're supposed to play because it's going to be anyway.
01:19:53.000 And I thought the Lucretia James was going to be.
01:19:54.000 You're saying that the Comey thing makes them the villain enough to say, you know what?
01:19:59.000 We need to make sure that we do everything we can to make sure that Republicans cannot be in positions of power again.
01:20:04.000 I thought it looked really bad because it's like saying, yeah, we're going to be good.
01:20:08.000 We're going to be good.
01:20:09.000 So just get him.
01:20:10.000 I can't do it.
01:20:11.000 Just get one guy.
01:20:12.000 Is it a stand up?
01:20:13.000 No, he's still that guy.
01:20:14.000 Is it enough?
01:20:15.000 Is what enough?
01:20:16.000 Is it enough to cross the line into saying, well, they went after Comey, so we're going to go after as many Republicans as we can?
01:20:23.000 I don't think retribution is a good argument.
01:20:25.000 So then, for the sake of retribution, you mean revenge?
01:20:29.000 Yeah.
01:20:30.000 Because retribution is different.
01:20:31.000 Okay.
01:20:31.000 Maybe it's definitely not revenge.
01:20:34.000 I don't think revenge is a good way to lead.
01:20:38.000 I don't think retribution is either.
01:20:39.000 What?
01:20:40.000 Give me the exact.
01:20:41.000 Yeah, we should pull this up and look at the difference because.
01:20:42.000 Retribution is a deserved, severe punishment given as payback for a wrong or criminal act.
01:20:47.000 Wow.
01:20:48.000 I think the difference is that retribution is considered to be deserved.
01:20:51.000 Yeah.
01:20:52.000 And revenge could be deserved or not.
01:20:54.000 Exactly.
01:20:54.000 Right.
01:20:55.000 Revenge is just you wronged me, I'll wrong you back.
01:20:56.000 So retribution would be a type of revenge.
01:20:59.000 Yes.
01:21:01.000 Retribution is more likely associated with an individual saying, like, that criminal did something bad and we will have retribution.
01:21:09.000 Revenge is like, you stole my PlayStation, so I'm going to break in your house and steal yours.
01:21:13.000 Like, just two bad dudes.
01:21:14.000 Or famously, Elliot Rogers' Day of Retribution.
01:21:18.000 Well, that's not real retribution at all.
01:21:19.000 That's not.
01:21:20.000 I don't know anything about that.
01:21:21.000 Oh, it's not.
01:21:22.000 When he killed a bunch of women?
01:21:23.000 Yeah, he was the age. 0.83
01:21:24.000 Oh, retribution?
01:21:25.000 Yeah, he was bizarre.
01:21:26.000 Yeah, right.
01:21:27.000 People will use the term retribution to fuel their own games.
01:21:29.000 It's the act of hurting or punishing someone in return for a wrong or injury they have caused you.
01:21:34.000 So, retribution is a type of revenge.
01:21:36.000 Typically, it's considered to be deserved.
01:21:37.000 It seemed like Trump was trying to exact revenge on James Comey the way they went so hard for him putting up a picture, a meme that other people had posted.
01:21:46.000 Well, I mean, it wasn't just a picture or a meme.
01:21:50.000 The argument was this is a call to violence against the president.
01:21:55.000 Now, you can disagree and say, no, I don't think it was, but that's what the argument was.
01:22:00.000 And considering it's a sitting president and the idea of a call to violence against the president is an actual crime, what James Comey was saying was, no, it was not.
01:22:11.000 I'm saying throw him out.
01:22:13.000 And they're saying, no, there's already been multiple attempts on the president's life.
01:22:17.000 So this is actually endorsing violence against the president.
01:22:21.000 If I put up a meme of James Comey with a ball gag in his mouth, bent over, and then like the GIMP in the background from Pulp Fiction coming out, I'm not like encouraging people to go gang rape James Comey.
01:22:33.000 It's just a funny meme.
01:22:34.000 Like, that's not a call to violence.
01:22:35.000 But the 8647 isn't a funny meme.
01:22:39.000 The 8647 is saying.
01:22:43.000 Eight miles out and six feet under.
01:22:45.000 Yeah.
01:22:45.000 It's saying that Donald Trump, and again, this is the argument that the government was making, it's saying that he is endorsing.
01:22:53.000 The murder of the president.
01:22:55.000 I would love to hear your take on this because I don't know.
01:22:58.000 Well, I mean, yeah, look, I hear what you're saying, but I think you're thinking of the world in a much nicer way than it is.
01:23:05.000 And I think that with the James Comey thing, I think the importance, as you said, if you'd have posted it, it would be different.
01:23:10.000 This is the former director of the FBI.
01:23:12.000 Like, it's who is posting it is the difficult part.
01:23:16.000 I think he shouldn't be doing those sorts of things.
01:23:18.000 But look, it's scary if the Democrats get in.
01:23:22.000 I think, you know, you guys are thinking of America, of course.
01:23:25.000 I'm looking at it from a global situation.
01:23:27.000 I think the world is moving to a centralized system.
01:23:33.000 The fact that the president won at the last election is the one barrier.
01:23:36.000 If you look at all the countries, the Western countries, they're all falling under the same thing, whether it's open borders, left wing governments.
01:23:42.000 You guys are the outlier.
01:23:43.000 You're the only one still standing.
01:23:46.000 Know if they can get in this time and if they can get the next presidency, I think America is going to fall in line with the rest of the world and we're going to move much closer to a global system, which I think is very bad for the world.
01:23:57.000 Like a technocracy?
01:23:58.000 Yeah, I mean, look, if you look at Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK, all of them, they basically have the same system.
01:24:04.000 They're ruled by the same sorts of people, they're the same laws.
01:24:06.000 All the laws are the same now.
01:24:08.000 You guys, that's exactly what would have happened here if Kamala Harris had won.
01:24:11.000 She was totally aligned with all those people.
01:24:13.000 Obama is out in the UK all the time.
01:24:15.000 That's what they want for America.
01:24:16.000 They want to get rid of the free speech, they want to have the open borders.
01:24:19.000 They've got to flood the country with these people because they keep losing.
01:24:22.000 They need more people.
01:24:23.000 They need 100 million people that are going to vote for them.
01:24:25.000 If you think the border was open under Biden, I think if you get a Democratic president at the next election, I think it's going to be, it'll be really, it'll be insane.
01:24:33.000 And then I don't think you'll ever get a Republican win again.
01:24:37.000 That's the scariest part about it.
01:24:40.000 I don't have a control group to do the study to know what would have happened if Trump hadn't persecuted, well, whatever you want to call it, went after Jim Smith.
01:24:47.000 Persecuted.
01:24:48.000 So there was Comey.
01:24:49.000 So there were two different cases, right?
01:24:51.000 There was lying to Congress.
01:24:53.000 Which was thrown out.
01:24:54.000 That was about the testimony for the Russia investigation, the crossfire hurricane.
01:25:01.000 And then there was the 8647 one.
01:25:03.000 That one has been pushed to next year.
01:25:05.000 Right.
01:25:06.000 So the argument is like I said, the Trump administration is arguing that it was a call to violence and considering the multiple attempts on the president's life.
01:25:15.000 Remember, there have been three assassination attempts there was Butler, there was the guy that was by his golf course, and then there was the one at the correspondence dinner.
01:25:24.000 Dude tried to run into the correspondence dinner.
01:25:27.000 So, the correspondence dinner was after the James Comey, after he put up the meme.
01:25:33.000 I was at that dinner, actually.
01:25:35.000 Oh, really?
01:25:35.000 Was it crazy?
01:25:37.000 What was your experience like there?
01:25:40.000 It was, yeah, it was weird.
01:25:41.000 I mean, I was with a bunch of White House friends, so I managed to get out of the lockdown, which was good because they were kept in there for like six, seven hours.
01:25:48.000 The people were stuck in there.
01:25:49.000 So, but it was crazy, you know, and it's weird to think that, you know, that was how close it came.
01:25:55.000 You know, like I see the videos where he ran, that was the bar that we were standing at, and he literally was right there.
01:26:00.000 But it was weird.
01:26:00.000 I mean, hey, we went into the dinner, no security, didn't go through any, you know, scanners or anything.
01:26:05.000 It was very, very strange the setup that they allowed that to happen, you know.
01:26:10.000 Dude, you served with Boris Johnson.
01:26:12.000 You were like his, what did you do with him?
01:26:14.000 I had a company.
01:26:15.000 We ran all of his social media video content.
01:26:18.000 When you got into it, were you aware of the liberal economic order?
01:26:21.000 This, like, you know, what you were saying earlier, this unified mind state.
01:26:25.000 I think it comes out of Switzerland with the Bank for International Settlements, and they're feeding the Bank of London, the Federal Reserve, and they're kind of.
01:26:31.000 It's the natural progression of where things go.
01:26:33.000 Did you know that when you were getting involved with Boris, or did you find out along the way?
01:26:38.000 Because you said you were feeling different things now about it.
01:26:40.000 Yeah, no, we didn't.
01:26:41.000 And now we talk about the Boris wave, which we were letting in.
01:26:44.000 He actually let in.
01:26:45.000 So we had Brexit, which.
01:26:46.000 You know, people voted because they were sick of immigration and they were mad at like Polish immigrants.
01:26:51.000 That was the, we used to be the butt of the joke in England. 1.00
01:26:53.000 There were too many Polish immigrants now. 1.00
01:26:54.000 We'd like die for some Polish immigrants. 1.00
01:26:57.000 So they swapped that out and brought in the third world, I think, to probably punish the UK for voting for Brexit, leaving the EU. 1.00
01:27:04.000 Because look, that's what was happening, right? 1.00
01:27:05.000 The EU is this massive organization and it was expanding rapidly.
01:27:09.000 Now, Canada is now talking about doing a sort of like backdoor deal with the Europeans.
01:27:15.000 I don't know. 0.56
01:27:16.000 It's, Certainly, the separation of nation states is moving away.
01:27:21.000 Everyone's moving closer together.
01:27:24.000 So, we'll see what happens.
01:27:25.000 Did technology change while you were working with Boris and that kind of opened your opinion?
01:27:29.000 I left during COVID because I didn't like the COVID stuff.
01:27:32.000 I came here, I came to the land of the free because there was no freedom.
01:27:35.000 You'd get arrested if you left the house more than once a day.
01:27:37.000 And that's the most interesting thing.
01:27:38.000 If you look at COVID, I think there's an argument they brought.
01:27:42.000 If you believe that it was a whole conspiracy, they maybe brought it a little bit too soon here, maybe because they wanted to get rid of Trump and all of this.
01:27:50.000 And it didn't work, right?
01:27:51.000 It worked in Europe.
01:27:52.000 It worked very well in Europe.
01:27:53.000 They have mass surveillance, they have facial recognition, but they could see if you left the house more than once a day.
01:27:58.000 You would get fined, you would get arrested if you kept doing it.
01:28:01.000 So what are they doing now?
01:28:02.000 Flock cameras are now everywhere in this country, right?
01:28:04.000 They are figuring out what went wrong last time, bringing in, so now you're going to have your flock cameras all over the place.
01:28:10.000 If they do this again, It will work.
01:28:12.000 It didn't work the first time.
01:28:13.000 If they do it again, it will work.
01:28:15.000 You will have massive lockdowns in this country.
01:28:17.000 There's a huge outcry about flock in the last month or so.
01:28:17.000 They're trying to.
01:28:21.000 They tried to lock down this country and they couldn't.
01:28:23.000 What happened? 1.00
01:28:24.000 The red states didn't play ball. 0.99
01:28:26.000 So now they're going to flood Texas and Florida and all these red states with millions of people from the third world that will vote Democrat and will do as they're told. 0.98
01:28:34.000 They have now the surveillance to implement lockdowns. 0.99
01:28:37.000 What happened?
01:28:38.000 People were leaving the blue states to go down to the red states.
01:28:40.000 Well, now you've got the recognition everywhere.
01:28:42.000 They can stop the cars.
01:28:43.000 They can.
01:28:44.000 They're fixing the problems that made COVID not work last time.
01:28:47.000 And that's scary for the United States.
01:28:49.000 Yeah, wow.
01:28:51.000 What's your future motive right now?
01:28:53.000 Like your six month, eight month focus?
01:28:56.000 I literally don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.
01:28:58.000 Like, the world is like that right now.
01:29:00.000 We have no idea.
01:29:01.000 I mean, this whole situation with the, I'm sure you covered it, the bombing, the attempted bombing of the US base in the UK was very, very strange.
01:29:09.000 If they'd have succeeded with that, you probably would have had a massive response from the Americans. 0.56
01:29:13.000 You probably would have done some major bombing of, Iran, everything could have changed. 0.73
01:29:18.000 That got foiled, and we're in this timeline now.
01:29:20.000 So I literally have no idea.
01:29:22.000 It's crazy.
01:29:23.000 No one knows what's going to happen.
01:29:24.000 What was the bombing?
01:29:25.000 This is the first I've heard of. 0.88
01:29:26.000 These Iranian backed cells tried to blow up the US base in the UK, where all your bombers are that are bombing Iran. 0.65
01:29:32.000 And they got some little old lady drunk driving, coming home from a party, called it in and was like, Hey, there's like 10 guys in the bushes outside your American base. 0.93
01:29:41.000 I'm not sure they should be there.
01:29:43.000 And they all got arrested. 0.98
01:29:45.000 And then, of course, the British. 0.76
01:29:45.000 Actually, they arrested the old lady for being offensive towards these poor Iranian men. 0.76
01:29:49.000 They called it that she was a racist.
01:29:51.000 Were you gangbanged by those guys?
01:29:52.000 Right.
01:29:54.000 It's off the table. 1.00
01:29:55.000 So, yeah, little old lady saved the day. 0.86
01:29:57.000 But, like, yeah, If that had happened, I think if they'd have got in and blown up like four of your B 1 bombers, yeah, you guys would have like unleashed hell on Iran. 0.84
01:30:04.000 And that we'd be in a very different timeline right now. 0.81
01:30:07.000 So it's, who knows?
01:30:08.000 We don't know what's going to happen.
01:30:09.000 A lot of terrorist talk recently.
01:30:11.000 We had the one, the plane nearly got happened.
01:30:14.000 There's a lot of terrorism talk right now.
01:30:16.000 It's quite scary.
01:30:17.000 Yeah, I thought of that when full scale ground war in Iran soon. 0.99
01:30:21.000 I don't know if it would have been that, but I think you would have like bombed the shit out of them.
01:30:25.000 So, the people who believe it's a false flag obviously also, conspiracy theorists believe it's predictive programming in a sense.
01:30:32.000 Not the same thing.
01:30:33.000 Predictive programming is when a movie comes out where it's like a terror attack and then it happens and everyone expects it.
01:30:38.000 But you get this failed thing on the plane in Tel Aviv. 1.00
01:30:41.000 You get the Iranian thing. 0.79
01:30:43.000 Now, if two months later there's a major terror attack from Iran, they're going to be like, see?
01:30:47.000 And everyone's going to go, oh, yeah.
01:30:49.000 Yeah.
01:30:49.000 So, we'll see.
01:30:50.000 Yeah, we don't know.
01:30:50.000 And of course, the British government released them, of course, immediately and put them on bail.
01:30:54.000 Meanwhile, if you tweet something in England, good luck getting out on bail. 0.87
01:30:57.000 But if you're a terrorist backed by Iran, yeah, they'll let you out the next day. 0.96
01:31:00.000 Why did they let them out? 0.54
01:31:01.000 Because they don't want to admit that we've got a problem with these sorts of people.
01:31:04.000 You know, they were furious when the picture came out.
01:31:06.000 And of course, they were, you know, they were not right wing conservatives.
01:31:10.000 They were really wanting to blame it on the far right.
01:31:12.000 Is it, and maybe you don't know the answer to this, I'm kind of leading the question, but like, is it that the king's just done with the U.S.?
01:31:18.000 He's pissed off at the way Trump's been controlling and he's just subtly allowing Trump to try and force them?
01:31:24.000 Well, we, I mean, if you look.
01:31:25.000 Look, so I don't know if you guys saw the video, but the Prime Minister of England now is a hardcore socialist.
01:31:30.000 He just ended his party conference by singing the socialist national anthem.
01:31:34.000 That's like this Red March song that is just insane, that they're literally all singing this on the stage, waving like red flags.
01:31:40.000 They're proud socialists.
01:31:41.000 And look, that's the DSA.
01:31:43.000 It's the exact same party.
01:31:43.000 That's what's coming.
01:31:44.000 That's who is taking over the Republican Party.
01:31:47.000 That'll be who is going to be backing whether they make it to the presidency.
01:31:51.000 They'll probably get vice president.
01:31:52.000 They're going to get a lot of politicians.
01:31:55.000 You're going to get your First Muslim senator up in Michigan that might be taking over his DSAs.
01:31:59.000 But the king's got to be involved or at least happy with what's going on. 1.00
01:32:02.000 The king's an idiot. 1.00
01:32:03.000 The king's irrelevant. 1.00
01:32:04.000 He's totally done.
01:32:05.000 If I was a king and I had an embassy of my closest allies and a foreign nation tried to bomb it, I would come down so hard on them.
01:32:13.000 Yeah, but you'd be a better king than him.
01:32:17.000 He's not really a king.
01:32:18.000 He's kind of just.
01:32:20.000 I mean, they're totally in with the Davos, the globalist agenda.
01:32:24.000 They're all in on the green energy.
01:32:26.000 They'd rather.
01:32:27.000 Build solar and do all these wind farms than actually invest anything.
01:32:30.000 We just found out the UK airport, Heathrow Airport, is the busiest airport in the world.
01:32:34.000 It needs a new runway.
01:32:36.000 And they've said, well, we'll make the decision in 2039. 1.00
01:32:39.000 It's just, it's so, England's so dumb. 0.97
01:32:41.000 Solar in England is an interesting choice. 0.99
01:32:43.000 Of course, it doesn't work.
01:32:44.000 It never works.
01:32:45.000 And they, but they love it.
01:32:46.000 They, you know, and they put big wind farms and, of course, they put them off the coast of where the president's golf courses is, which really upset him.
01:32:53.000 But like, look, I always say, and Americans always come to me and they say, oh, it's so sad what happened in Europe.
01:32:58.000 And like, I can't believe it happened.
01:32:59.000 And I'm like, dude, that's exactly where you're heading.
01:33:01.000 You guys don't see this.
01:33:02.000 Like, that's exactly what is going to happen here.
01:33:04.000 We see it.
01:33:05.000 Right, right.
01:33:06.000 But it's the path that you're on.
01:33:08.000 And if they get power, which is looking like they're going to, it's good luck.
01:33:13.000 I mean, they already got rid of free speech in COVID.
01:33:15.000 Free speech was gone in this country during COVID.
01:33:17.000 And only because the president.
01:33:19.000 Yes.
01:33:20.000 Only because the president came in and beat Kamala Harris did that get reversed.
01:33:23.000 And because Elon took over X, they almost got rid of ending free speech in this country.
01:33:29.000 So it was really close.
01:33:31.000 If Kamala had won, you guys would probably be in the same situation as the UK.
01:33:35.000 Like everyone seems to have forgotten.
01:33:36.000 Remember, they were flying migrants from the Texas border to a hotel in New York City, giving them the credit cards and the phones.
01:33:41.000 And everyone says to me, I can't believe that migrants in England get free hotels.
01:33:46.000 They would do it.
01:33:46.000 The Democrats were doing that.
01:33:47.000 It's not a European thing.
01:33:49.000 It's not an English issue.
01:33:50.000 It's a globalist issue.
01:33:51.000 Yeah, I think they want to make. 0.55
01:33:52.000 They want to center everything around China because the Chinese political system is total control.
01:33:56.000 So, if you're a globalist, you're like, look, the United States, the people can fight back. 0.99
01:33:59.000 It sucks. 0.50
01:34:00.000 In China, they can't fight back and they can't even own land. 0.99
01:34:03.000 Let's center global hegemony in China where nobody can fight back. 0.91
01:34:08.000 And England is totally in bed with China now. 0.88
01:34:08.000 Yeah. 0.88
01:34:10.000 They just approved this massive super embassy in London.
01:34:13.000 It's like the biggest embassy in the world. 1.00
01:34:16.000 It's stupid. 1.00
01:34:16.000 They seem to think they can replace the American partnership with Chinese partnership. 1.00
01:34:20.000 Well, I'm going to let everybody in on a secret.
01:34:22.000 We have a class system in the United States very, very easily.
01:34:26.000 The idea of the United States and our financial system, the Federal Reserve and all of that, it serves one purpose.
01:34:34.000 If you are smart enough, you don't have to work.
01:34:36.000 That's it.
01:34:38.000 Unfortunately, it's also got to the point where if you're unscrupulous enough, you don't have to work, which is a problem.
01:34:44.000 But the machine does go after people who break the rules, like the Tates, for instance.
01:34:47.000 Now, by all means, you can say that the Tates are guilty and they're going after the Tates.
01:34:55.000 Because in this system, The Tate brothers weren't supposed to be wealthy.
01:34:59.000 The way the system works is right now, I think we're at what, 4.25% interest rates.
01:35:05.000 Now, why is it that the interest rates are basically universal?
01:35:08.000 Why is it that if you want to own a home, you got to pay a premium, 4.25% on that loan?
01:35:12.000 If you're rich, we just give it to you.
01:35:15.000 If you put money in the bank, and here's the way it works it works for everybody.
01:35:19.000 You put $100 in the bank, you can get a 3.6% or 4%.
01:35:23.000 In fact, X right now is a 6% APY if you have direct deposit.
01:35:28.000 Now, if you're poor, is that 6% really helping?
01:35:30.000 Not really.
01:35:31.000 But what if you have $10 million and you're getting 6%?
01:35:33.000 Congratulations, you never have to work again.
01:35:35.000 That was $6 million a year?
01:35:36.000 $600,000.
01:35:37.000 $600,000 a year.
01:35:38.000 You just live off of it.
01:35:39.000 If you have $10 million in cash and you put it into a 6% savings, like with X, you will make $600,000 per year doing nothing.
01:35:49.000 Wow.
01:35:50.000 That is the classism of the United States.
01:35:52.000 That at a certain point, you are just rich forever, and everyone else struggles and has to work really, really hard.
01:35:59.000 That system they built.
01:36:00.000 We also had USAID, which was the political class, where once you were in the club, you never had to work again.
01:36:07.000 They funneled money to you from the people, from their savings, not necessarily through taxes, but through inflationary policies, and you never had to work.
01:36:14.000 But the poor people did.
01:36:16.000 And the whole point of our political system was to manage the expectations of the poor so they don't go crazy.
01:36:20.000 That's why the Democrats.
01:36:22.000 We'll just arrest these seven guys.
01:36:24.000 So long as the masses don't go crazy, we don't care because we don't have to work.
01:36:29.000 That's the system.
01:36:30.000 And USAID was funding a lot of things in Europe.
01:36:33.000 There was a politician, Rory Stewart, in the UK, and he was, he totally let the mask slip.
01:36:33.000 It's crazy.
01:36:38.000 He was complaining when Trump canceled USAID because his wife lost a million dollars a year in her salary.
01:36:43.000 And everyone's like, wait, sorry, why is the American taxpayer giving your wife a million dollars a year?
01:36:48.000 So yeah, they're totally, they were funding all of these NGOs and these globalist organizations.
01:36:52.000 So that has, I think that's probably one of the most impactful policies he's done is take away USAID.
01:36:58.000 That's changed a lot of things, particularly in the UK, particularly in European places.
01:37:02.000 The money was insane. 0.96
01:37:03.000 What people need to understand, because I see the black AR said Andrew Tate got rich too fast and started talking Manosphere talking points. 1.00
01:37:10.000 The media and powers that be don't like that. 1.00
01:37:13.000 But cryptocurrency.
01:37:15.000 Wait, say that again.
01:37:16.000 What about?
01:37:17.000 The Tates got, I think the Tates first got rich off of cryptocurrency.
01:37:21.000 Yeah.
01:37:21.000 Okay.
01:37:22.000 Yeah.
01:37:22.000 Thomas is running out.
01:37:23.000 He's going to go do a TV hit right now.
01:37:25.000 So he'll be back in a second.
01:37:27.000 But when I told him, I was like, we should do the TV hit live from the show.
01:37:32.000 That'd be cool.
01:37:32.000 What's he doing?
01:37:33.000 He's a Newsmax.
01:37:35.000 But it was like at the last minute too hard.
01:37:38.000 They could see him go.
01:37:39.000 Yeah.
01:37:39.000 They could see him sitting here being like, how's it going?
01:37:41.000 And then just do the hit.
01:37:42.000 It's five minutes.
01:37:43.000 And then we just, we all be quiet.
01:37:45.000 Because you could have him do that.
01:37:46.000 It's not set up for it.
01:37:47.000 Yeah.
01:37:48.000 I was like, if we had a few hours more, we could have set that up.
01:37:48.000 Yeah.
01:37:51.000 That's cool.
01:37:52.000 But he'll bounce back in a second.
01:37:54.000 So, what I mean is, the crypto stuff got people rich, but they weren't supposed to get rich.
01:37:58.000 I'm thinking about my buddy in 2012, Robert, YouTuber.
01:37:58.000 Yeah.
01:38:03.000 We were sitting at his friend's apartment in North Manhattan, and he was smoking a cigar.
01:38:07.000 We were playing poker.
01:38:08.000 And he was like, You know anything about Bitcoin?
01:38:11.000 I was like, No.
01:38:12.000 He's like, What year?
01:38:13.000 2012, maybe, or 11.
01:38:14.000 And I was like, What is it?
01:38:15.000 He's like, You write down a piece of paper, and it's money.
01:38:18.000 I was like, What happens if you lose it?
01:38:19.000 He's like, Then it's gone.
01:38:20.000 And he's like, And I was like, huh, it was like two cents.
01:38:22.000 They were two cents each or something.
01:38:24.000 No, no, no, not in 2012.
01:38:25.000 It was in 2011.
01:38:26.000 It was in 2011.
01:38:27.000 It was March of 2011.
01:38:28.000 It was like $2, I think it was, or $2.
01:38:30.000 That's like, yeah, mid 2011, it was like three bucks.
01:38:32.000 Yeah, it was like three bucks.
01:38:34.000 I got my first Bitcoin at 70 cents.
01:38:36.000 You heard about it?
01:38:37.000 Oh, you have?
01:38:38.000 I had 21 Bitcoin at 70 cents.
01:38:40.000 Ow!
01:38:41.000 But anyway, that guy disappeared.
01:38:43.000 Not like disappeared.
01:38:44.000 I just, he, once crypto went up to 17,000, I never heard from him again.
01:38:47.000 He probably sold it and is now a trillionaire living on an island.
01:38:50.000 There were a bunch of crypto people that have been arrested, imprisoned, and seemingly for no reason.
01:38:50.000 I don't know.
01:38:56.000 But the reason is fairly obvious.
01:38:58.000 Crypto emerged rather as a surprise to a lot of people.
01:39:02.000 And a bunch of people who probably shouldn't have influence got a lot of influence.
01:39:07.000 So, if you're the Davos group, if you're the World Economic Forum, if you're the IMF, if you're the Liberal Economic Order, you don't care when people start getting rich through the rules you've created because you're watching them.
01:39:18.000 And every step of the way, you're like, ban him from YouTube.
01:39:22.000 Now he's not rich anymore, right?
01:39:23.000 But if a dude does crypto, they're outside your system.
01:39:25.000 And all of a sudden, you're like, that dude can now fund a bunch of crazy stuff and upend our plans.
01:39:31.000 Get rid of him.
01:39:32.000 Yeah.
01:39:33.000 They built Ripple for that reason, I think, to try to supplant Bitcoin.
01:39:36.000 That was like the big banks.
01:39:38.000 What's that?
01:39:39.000 It's the big banking crypto.
01:39:39.000 XRP.
01:39:41.000 They want to make Ripple the unified, but it's just Bitcoin's so entrenched right now.
01:39:45.000 And it might be a CIA op.
01:39:46.000 I don't know.
01:39:47.000 Satoshi Nakamoto means, doesn't it mean CIA?
01:39:51.000 It means intelligence.
01:39:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:39:52.000 Really?
01:39:55.000 Satoshi Nakamoto means Central Intelligence Agency.
01:39:58.000 It's pretty close.
01:39:59.000 Well, because it's translated from Japanese.
01:40:02.000 So it means like, yeah, Agency of Central Intelligence or something.
01:40:08.000 I mean, come on.
01:40:08.000 We talked about it on this show like a year ago.
01:40:11.000 Yeah, it means intelligent.
01:40:12.000 Satoshi is the middle.
01:40:13.000 Why central origin or clear thinking foundation?
01:40:16.000 Nakamoto is middle.
01:40:17.000 So it's intelligent inside, intelligent middle.
01:40:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:40:21.000 It can translate to central intelligence agency.
01:40:23.000 Good lord.
01:40:24.000 Do you think that's like an accident or like a different translation?
01:40:27.000 Because in Japanese it would be different, a way of like maybe just an organized place to put everything intelligent?
01:40:33.000 Yes, the central intelligence origin.
01:40:36.000 I think it might be CIA.
01:40:38.000 Satoshi is commonly interpreted as wise, intelligent, Or clear thinking.
01:40:43.000 Nakamoto is a surname meaning central origin, middle base, or root.
01:40:47.000 Intelligent central origin.
01:40:49.000 I mean, good lord.
01:40:52.000 Humans are known to kind of put it right in your face and be like, you can't prove it.
01:40:56.000 What do you want?
01:40:57.000 Here's the thing the Tates were doing like meme coins and stuff.
01:41:03.000 They did really, really well with crypto.
01:41:05.000 I don't know the full story.
01:41:06.000 I've just heard some of the stuff they've posted.
01:41:08.000 I remember watching them on the couch and they're like, we got a coin.
01:41:11.000 And then Andrew would burn a bunch of the coins to pump the value up and stuff like that.
01:41:15.000 Aren't a lot of people doing that?
01:41:17.000 Yeah, but they made insane money and got tons of influence.
01:41:21.000 So I think the reason they're going after them is look, by all means, I don't know.
01:41:25.000 These accusations, they've tried several times and they've kept that, they fail all the time.
01:41:30.000 But I'm not trying to get into that.
01:41:32.000 The point is, even if that were true, they ain't going after the Epstein people.
01:41:36.000 There is a club and you ain't in it.
01:41:38.000 And if the Tates are guilty of what they're accused of, it's obvious who's in the club because there are people who aren't being arrested for the stuff they did.
01:41:45.000 It's interesting to think of the crypto millionaires, billionaires, trillionaires, I don't know how deep it goes, as being outside the system.
01:41:52.000 I wonder if they're co opting that crypto system because it's so easy to become a tracking central.
01:41:56.000 Maybe the whole time it was supposed to be an op to make it look like it was outside the club.
01:42:01.000 And they got all these crypto billionaires that think they're safe.
01:42:04.000 But as soon as you use cryptocurrency to crack the proof of work, I had 21 Bitcoin on a computer.
01:42:10.000 And then the computer got destroyed in a fire.
01:42:12.000 And I was like, I don't know, it was like 18 bucks.
01:42:15.000 Is it?
01:42:16.000 The computer was worth more.
01:42:17.000 The computer was 1,000 bucks.
01:42:18.000 I was pissed.
01:42:18.000 Oh, I just got a new computer by now.
01:42:20.000 That's like 1.8 million or something.
01:42:21.000 I'm going to start training AI on my new computer.
01:42:24.000 1.7 million.
01:42:26.000 Right now, Bitcoin is, one second, 86?
01:42:30.000 By 84, I think.
01:42:31.000 Yeah.
01:42:32.000 Up and down, up and down.
01:42:33.000 What's the plan?
01:42:34.000 What do you mean, what's the plan?
01:42:35.000 Sell it, sell it, go into cash.
01:42:37.000 Just hold on to it.
01:42:37.000 I'm not buying it.
01:42:38.000 Reinvest in high tech.
01:42:39.000 No, Bitcoin is.
01:42:39.000 Bitcoin will come out, there'll be 4,000.
01:42:42.000 In three weeks, they go up to 7,000 because Bitcoin is the IMF.
01:42:42.000 And then in.
01:42:46.000 So I went to Davos in, I think it was like 2018, or I might have been 2017, 2017, I think.
01:42:53.000 And the whole theme of Davos was crypto.
01:42:56.000 And so I didn't go to the actual WEF, I was outside because in Davos, they have a bunch of parties around.
01:43:04.000 So, there's like ski resorts everywhere.
01:43:06.000 You can just go get a hotel and hang out.
01:43:08.000 And there's politicians everywhere, there's world leaders.
01:43:11.000 I went to a bar.
01:43:13.000 Tons of people worked for government.
01:43:15.000 There was one individual that I talked to who was, I'll keep it relatively vague.
01:43:21.000 Let's just say a royal family.
01:43:23.000 And they were like, the plan is that the global reserve is going to be Bitcoin.
01:43:28.000 What year was that?
01:43:29.000 This was 2017, I think.
01:43:32.000 And then, in 2018.
01:43:33.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
01:43:34.000 You ready for the best part?
01:43:35.000 I filmed three vlogs from Davos.
01:43:38.000 They're all gone.
01:43:39.000 Are they really?
01:43:40.000 Do you still have them somewhere?
01:43:41.000 Oh, dang.
01:43:41.000 Nope.
01:43:42.000 YouTube took them down.
01:43:43.000 What?
01:43:44.000 Yep.
01:43:44.000 Somebody made a phone call.
01:43:45.000 I went to Davos and I was filming daily vlogs at the time.
01:43:48.000 This was back when my Timcast channel was daily vlogs.
01:43:51.000 And I think it was like January of 2017.
01:43:53.000 I'm not sure.
01:43:54.000 One day I was looking back because we had talked about it on this show and I was like, oh, I want to find that interview I did where we talked about how the Davos group, they want Bitcoin.
01:44:02.000 And then I went to my channel and there's three days missing.
01:44:04.000 The videos are just gone.
01:44:05.000 Dang.
01:44:06.000 No notifications, nothing.
01:44:08.000 Just they're gone.
01:44:09.000 I noticed one of the videos was titled Bitcoin is the New Global Currency. 0.99
01:44:12.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
01:44:13.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:44:13.000 At the end of it was either the end of 2017 or 2018 when Trump decided we're going to start taxing your crypto sales. 0.99
01:44:20.000 It didn't happen up until 2018.
01:44:21.000 And then the US was like, we're going to get a grip on this.
01:44:23.000 But for the eight years preceding, it was the Wild West.
01:44:26.000 If you went from two cents per Bitcoin and you had 100,000 of them, then it went up to 17 grand, bro, you just made a hundred, like a billion dollars and not taxed at all, completely off the, like, and then a, So maybe that whole coming up on the world currency thing happened after you went to Davos, is when Trump made it a taxable event.
01:44:46.000 So maybe that's a form of collusion with the process.
01:44:49.000 I don't know.
01:44:50.000 It was just Trump.
01:44:51.000 Actually, I don't think Trump was in office yet.
01:44:54.000 Well, it was January of 2017.
01:44:56.000 Oh, yeah.
01:44:57.000 It was before Trump did that.
01:44:58.000 Trump did that in like 18, I think.
01:45:00.000 I have to imagine that like these elites hate me so much, but I'm not like, you know, it's like if you walk into a room and there's like a coyote, you're like, oh, what the hell is a coyote doing?
01:45:11.000 You got to call the police, like deal with it.
01:45:13.000 That's like Andrew Tate.
01:45:14.000 I'm probably more like a housefly where I'm like buzzing around the room the whole time and they're like, I cannot stand Tim Pool, but there's not enough to be like, swat him.
01:45:23.000 You know what I mean?
01:45:24.000 Yeah.
01:45:24.000 I think they think, okay, this guy's a risk, but as long as he doesn't cause a revolution, we're okay.
01:45:31.000 Yeah, they don't like me.
01:45:32.000 They accuse me of being all sorts of things.
01:45:34.000 You know what I mean?
01:45:35.000 Of course they do.
01:45:35.000 Yeah.
01:45:36.000 But it's like, if this was an Andrew Tate level threat, they'd be like, just shut them down, ban them, and arrest them.
01:45:42.000 Yeah, because you're not doing anything wrong.
01:45:43.000 And in fact, what we do kind of is just a question.
01:45:45.000 Well, that's not the question.
01:45:46.000 The question of whether there's something wrong doesn't matter.
01:45:49.000 You're not doing anything that violates their workflow.
01:45:52.000 We're actually helping the global order consolidate around AI and a technology.
01:45:55.000 I think it's more neutral.
01:45:57.000 I'm sort of.
01:45:57.000 I'm neutral.
01:45:58.000 I think this show is fairly moderate in those respects.
01:46:01.000 Like, we don't scream.
01:46:02.000 For or against AI, we're like kind of middle of the road.
01:46:04.000 We're doomer on sometimes, we like it, and sometimes.
01:46:07.000 So they're like, I imagine they're looking at us like, these guys are so annoying.
01:46:10.000 Bro, I've been thinking about world order.
01:46:12.000 You know what I mean?
01:46:12.000 Like, it's a fly.
01:46:13.000 It's like, it's not going to sting you.
01:46:16.000 You know, it's not going to ruin your plans, but it's just get, stop.
01:46:19.000 You know what I mean?
01:46:20.000 So sometimes they screw with us.
01:46:21.000 Yeah, like don't fly in their face because you might get smacked.
01:46:24.000 But that's right.
01:46:25.000 You just hang out in the other area of the room.
01:46:26.000 No one's going to say it.
01:46:27.000 It's actually a really good metaphor for that.
01:46:28.000 Yeah.
01:46:29.000 All right.
01:46:30.000 We're going to grab some questions from the members over here.
01:46:34.000 So if you guys have any questions you want to get in, Get them in now.
01:46:38.000 In the meantime, we'll talk about how, you know, I wonder if actually just world leaders are losing.
01:46:38.000 We're going to pull them in.
01:46:45.000 Like 2017, these people that were all like, yeah, Bitcoin's going to be it, are they still even in power after Trump came in for second term?
01:46:53.000 I don't know.
01:46:53.000 I think national leadership is struggling.
01:46:56.000 The whole plan to move away from nationalism to globalism.
01:47:00.000 Like, they really seem like these corporate, the people that want corporate governance want to disempower national governance so that we then give in to the corporate influence and authority.
01:47:09.000 So, I'm not, I wouldn't be surprised if world leaders are struggling intentionally because their banks are getting blown up by the Swiss bank because they want control corporate.
01:47:18.000 No, those are the global elites.
01:47:21.000 Which ones?
01:47:22.000 Who are?
01:47:23.000 Those countries.
01:47:24.000 The leaders of the countries.
01:47:25.000 Yeah, well, like I'm saying, dude, like.
01:47:27.000 We live in a country, every Western country has this system.
01:47:30.000 I mean, it's the global economic system.
01:47:32.000 The idea likely was let's make it so that if you're smart enough, you don't have to work and you can do whatever you want, right?
01:47:39.000 Think about it this way.
01:47:42.000 If you were like, you've all known Harari, right?
01:47:44.000 Right, and then they let you into the club.
01:47:45.000 No, no, no, no. 0.95
01:47:46.000 The smart people are the risks if they're not getting invited in.
01:47:48.000 Listen, listen.
01:47:49.000 So, you've all known Harari, right?
01:47:49.000 Okay.
01:47:50.000 The useless eaters? 0.99
01:47:52.000 We understand in biology the weak have to die and the strong have to survive. 0.98
01:47:58.000 Organisms accumulate, then you'll get degeneracy, struggling, starvation, disease, etc.
01:48:04.000 So, we know that you can't feed wild animals, they become dependent, and then it ruins the ecosystem and they can kill them.
01:48:10.000 We know you need ecosystem balanced.
01:48:12.000 So, what kind of system would you build?
01:48:14.000 They'd build this.
01:48:15.000 They'd say, Okay, if you're smart enough to get a million bucks, congratulations, you're getting $60,000 a year.
01:48:20.000 You only need $2 million.
01:48:23.000 I'm not saying it's easy to get, but you get $2 million, you're going to get right now $120,000 a year.
01:48:29.000 Isn't that crazy?
01:48:30.000 That's higher than the GDP.
01:48:32.000 They built a system where they're like, you don't have to be a peasant if you have the ability to get to this level.
01:48:38.000 Yeah, and I would even augment that and say instead of it's like, if you're strong enough, you're going to succeed.
01:48:43.000 And if you're weak, you're going to fail, just like in biology.
01:48:46.000 It's if you can adapt, you will survive and thrive.
01:48:50.000 If you cannot adapt to the system, you will fail.
01:48:52.000 The attitude is this Darwinian.
01:48:53.000 We want the smartest people to be free to do whatever they can, and that decentralized market output will create big things. 1.00
01:49:02.000 What we don't want is a bunch of stupid people burning everything down. 1.00
01:49:05.000 So look at the system that they built. 1.00
01:49:07.000 People who are not capable, they use as peasant labor. 0.98
01:49:10.000 I'm not saying this to be mean to people who are working class. 0.82
01:49:12.000 Like, this is how they see you. 0.99
01:49:14.000 You will have to work your fingers to the bone every day for the rest of your life because you aren't smart enough to escape the machine.
01:49:20.000 All we ask is that you don't burn the system down.
01:49:23.000 So, what do they do?
01:49:24.000 Left foot, right foot, back and forth, Democrat, Republican.
01:49:27.000 Republicans don't pass the Save Act because they like the system.
01:49:30.000 Sure.
01:49:30.000 Anybody who's capable of getting a couple million bucks who can put it in, you are free from peasant labor for the rest of your life.
01:49:35.000 I'm going to say it again. 0.97
01:49:36.000 If you can make $2 million at any point in your life and put that into a high yield savings or ETF, a high yield ETF is going to do better.
01:49:45.000 You're going to get the GDP right now is 95K per year.
01:49:48.000 Could you imagine getting 10 grand per month for doing nothing but being rich?
01:49:54.000 They built this system 100 years ago, and now.
01:49:58.000 Ian, imagine if you never had to work and you'd wake up and just had 10 grand.
01:50:01.000 It concerns me because it's UBI.
01:50:03.000 They're moving crypto.
01:50:04.000 It's UBI for the people who are capable of getting to that level and it's hard work for everybody else.
01:50:08.000 That's what they're trying to turn crypto into away from proof of work.
01:50:11.000 Speaking of work for everyone else, away from proof of work to proof of stake, which means if you have it, you're going to make more of it because you're supplying it to the network.
01:50:20.000 That's how you get rich.
01:50:21.000 And it's the same system, dude.
01:50:24.000 The people who.
01:50:25.000 They basically say it to your face.
01:50:27.000 If you can figure out how to break that barrier.
01:50:30.000 You don't have to work anymore.
01:50:31.000 And if you're not smart enough, you're going to be a peasant forever.
01:50:34.000 And then if you're smart, but you're too smart, they won't let you in, like John McAfee.
01:50:40.000 Well, he broke the rules.
01:50:41.000 I agree with you.
01:50:41.000 What rules?
01:50:42.000 You're kidding.
01:50:42.000 He was outside the system.
01:50:44.000 What did he do that was rule breaking? 1.00
01:50:45.000 Because he was a crazy man. 1.00
01:50:46.000 I mean, he was nuts. 1.00
01:50:47.000 He had to pay taxes. 0.99
01:50:48.000 Okay.
01:50:49.000 There it is.
01:50:49.000 He's a prominent libertarian saying, burn the system down with the money to back it up.
01:50:54.000 And so he's an example of an intelligent person that wasn't let in.
01:50:56.000 Tates are telling people, literally, escape the matrix.
01:51:00.000 They got money and influence and they're burning the system down.
01:51:03.000 Yeah, those are the dangerous ones are the intelligent ones that want to burn it down.
01:51:07.000 The regular people, they just make them watch sports or left and right, like you were saying, left foot, right foot, or this team and that team, or that country and this world leader is going at it, or whatever the competition that they want to describe.
01:51:18.000 They called it Bread and Circus in Rome.
01:51:20.000 It was about the circus.
01:51:21.000 They would make sure that the population got a circus.
01:51:24.000 For free, so that they weren't, didn't become malcontent about the foreign wars where their husbands were off and their dads were gone.
01:51:29.000 Ian, I got a chicken coop out back.
01:51:32.000 So long as the roosters aren't causing a fuss, I don't care what they do.
01:51:36.000 But the moment those roosters start tearing things up and digging holes, I'm taking them out and we're eating them. 0.99
01:51:41.000 And what if a rooster built, dug out a little canal to help irrigate for the other hens to drink fresher water?
01:51:48.000 Would you elevate him to a position of power?
01:51:48.000 I don't care.
01:51:50.000 I do nothing.
01:51:51.000 Okay.
01:51:52.000 That's his business with the hens.
01:51:53.000 Right.
01:51:54.000 Now, if the hens start pecking each other, we put blinders on them so they can't.
01:51:58.000 Is that like repealing the 19th?
01:52:02.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:52:06.000 Similar.
01:52:06.000 Yeah.
01:52:07.000 Actually, that's a great post.
01:52:09.000 I should post that picture.
01:52:11.000 Hey, I'm going to pull that up.
01:52:13.000 I'm going to pull that up and then we'll grab some.
01:52:15.000 With blinders?
01:52:16.000 No, I'm going to post the image of the chicken blinder and then put repeal the 19th.
01:52:20.000 I've never seen this chicken blinder before.
01:52:23.000 You guys have never seen chicken blinders?
01:52:25.000 I have.
01:52:26.000 It's not really inhumane because I don't think it physically hurts them.
01:52:29.000 No, no, no.
01:52:29.000 It's just a little clip on their beak.
01:52:31.000 And it makes it so that they can see the sides but not forward.
01:52:35.000 And you do this because they're pecking each other.
01:52:37.000 Now they can't fight each other because they can't see in front of them.
01:52:39.000 Oh my God.
01:52:40.000 Wow.
01:52:41.000 Brilliant.
01:52:42.000 Repeal the 19th. 0.73
01:52:45.000 Controlling what they can see.
01:52:46.000 That's the music.
01:52:46.000 And then they got the ones with the googly eyes.
01:52:48.000 Look. 0.59
01:52:49.000 The googly eye ones. 1.00
01:52:50.000 Fucking chickens, dude. 1.00
01:52:55.000 Make a chicken blender that says, like, iPhone on it or something like that. 1.00
01:52:58.000 Oh, that one on the right has literally googly eyes.
01:53:01.000 Now I see what you're talking about.
01:53:01.000 Yeah.
01:53:02.000 We got to settle down.
01:53:02.000 All right.
01:53:03.000 He says Massachusetts is now begging Trump to fast track gas pipelines after years of blocking fossil fuels.
01:53:09.000 Energy bills are soaring.
01:53:10.000 When do they finally admit their energy policy failed working Americans?
01:53:14.000 Well, I just refer to the previous question, the previous conversation we were having.
01:53:19.000 We're chickens in a chicken coop.
01:53:21.000 Uh, I'm like a fluffy rooster.
01:53:24.000 That's it.
01:53:25.000 I'm in the chicken coop, same as everybody else.
01:53:26.000 We're all chickens in the chicken coop.
01:53:29.000 They just want y'all not to burn things down.
01:53:31.000 That means sometimes things burn down, right?
01:53:33.000 The general idea is oh, this Cornell story, everyone's getting all angry.
01:53:37.000 Okay, throw them some red meat.
01:53:39.000 When the chickens are all ornery and yelling and fighting, you throw some fish in there.
01:53:43.000 And then they completely forget what's happening.
01:53:44.000 Then one chicken maybe acts out and you're like, hey, chickens, because we're a little bit more intelligent, you're like, look, this chicken did a bad thing.
01:53:50.000 Everyone focus.
01:53:51.000 We're going to punish this chicken.
01:53:52.000 Don't ever, like, so they make a big deal out of it.
01:53:54.000 They.
01:53:54.000 Yeah.
01:53:55.000 Which is maybe what they're doing with the Cornell thing.
01:53:57.000 They're like, don't ever step.
01:53:59.000 We need control of the world.
01:54:00.000 They did the same, Bankman Fried. 0.59
01:54:02.000 Bankman Fried.
01:54:03.000 Well, I wonder about this because politics got so contentious, people are ready to string each other up, right?
01:54:08.000 The question is like, well, the powers that be, be it Trump or Democrats, don't want that to happen. 0.92
01:54:11.000 So at what point do they say, all right, throw in the red meat and distract everybody, make them fight over something dumb? 0.94
01:54:16.000 Yeah. 0.92
01:54:17.000 Maybe that's Candace and Tucker.
01:54:20.000 Probably. 0.95
01:54:21.000 By changing the conversation to Israel, left and right moved to where you had a left and a right.
01:54:27.000 Tucker and Candace come in screaming Israel, and now portions of the left and portions of the right have formed a new faction.
01:54:33.000 That's why I tweeted the new left right divide is Israel, because Annika Spear and Tucker Carlson, having the same worldview, they're no longer distinct from each other.
01:54:41.000 Dude, if I owned a network like Google and I could just decide who got featured, I should be stripped of that power.
01:54:49.000 Like, no human should have that power.
01:54:50.000 That's pretty crazy.
01:54:52.000 Google's got a CEO, but like, it's owned by the shareholders.
01:54:56.000 I wonder who gets to decide what gets featured, how they do that.
01:54:58.000 Well, that would be whoever's in charge of like YouTube.
01:55:02.000 It's a big machine, dude.
01:55:04.000 You know, like Apple, for instance, they pick winners and losers.
01:55:09.000 Like, who reads the New York Times?
01:55:11.000 Why are they on the front page?
01:55:12.000 Why are they on the front page?
01:55:14.000 You know what I mean?
01:55:15.000 Thomas, let's grab this.
01:55:16.000 Oh, how was the news hit?
01:55:17.000 We're running through super chats right now.
01:55:19.000 Oh, yeah, good.
01:55:19.000 I just did a quick piece on the riots in France.
01:55:23.000 So sorry I had to dip out for a second.
01:55:24.000 But yeah, the footage is crazy.
01:55:27.000 The France stuff is lit. 0.93
01:55:28.000 Where's like migrants are riding? 1.00
01:55:29.000 Yeah, that's what. 0.68
01:55:30.000 So they're calling it high school kids, which they are technically high school kids.
01:55:33.000 But, you know, as I just said, it's not little Pierre from Bordeaux. 1.00
01:55:36.000 This is, you know, migrants in really rough areas of Paris that are just burning their schools for no reason. 1.00
01:55:43.000 But look, the French love to riot, but this is a different type of. 1.00
01:55:47.000 Are they French? 0.98
01:55:47.000 Of Variety. 0.98
01:55:48.000 No, they're not.
01:55:51.000 Wait, wait, I was trying to say.
01:55:52.000 Is this going to be live?
01:55:53.000 We're going live tonight at eight, but we'll tell it at the end of the day.
01:55:56.000 It was on live already.
01:55:56.000 It was just live by now.
01:55:58.000 CNOSCE says, Why is nobody questioning Jane Doe's incredibly detailed memory after a drug alcohol fueled orgy?
01:56:04.000 That's not even a joke, actually.
01:56:05.000 That's a good point.
01:56:06.000 Guess I mean, it's not one that you remember much on.
01:56:09.000 That's an extreme drug.
01:56:10.000 That's why I was just sitting on what it did last night.
01:56:13.000 Yeah, I mean, she might not remember anything.
01:56:16.000 Serge X says, Next time you go to a poker game, you should arrive with Kaiba's theme song.
01:56:21.000 No, what was the thing called that they wear in Yu Gi Oh?
01:56:25.000 I don't know at all.
01:56:28.000 What does that mean?
01:56:28.000 Yu Gi Oh was not my jam.
01:56:29.000 I was a little old for that. 0.79
01:56:32.000 I was a Pokemon guy.
01:56:35.000 What is it called?
01:56:37.000 The Yu Gi Oh Armbands.
01:56:39.000 I don't even know how to search for it.
01:56:41.000 I'm asking ChatGPT.
01:56:42.000 No, it wasn't an armband.
01:56:43.000 They had a game tray on their arms to hold their cards.
01:56:46.000 Oh.
01:56:46.000 The dual disc?
01:56:47.000 It was called the dual disc.
01:56:49.000 It's not a disc, though.
01:56:50.000 Yeah, it was called the dual disc.
01:56:52.000 Yep.
01:56:53.000 Like a Vambrace.
01:56:54.000 Yeah.
01:56:54.000 That's how you'd play, you'd have your cards on one arm.
01:56:57.000 You know that show's about Magic the Gathering?
01:56:59.000 Stolen.
01:57:01.000 So, Magic being the first card game and having monsters fight each other, Yu Gi Oh! was about them basically playing Magic.
01:57:08.000 Oh, cool.
01:57:08.000 Okay.
01:57:09.000 And then the funny thing is, when the show first came out, The game had no rules.
01:57:14.000 It made no sense.
01:57:15.000 Like, Yu Gi Oh! would literally just do things that were game breaking and, like, right away.
01:57:18.000 Oh, that's kind of how He Man was.
01:57:20.000 If you ever get a chance to watch the documentary and the way they formed He Man, that was for toys.
01:57:24.000 What's that?
01:57:25.000 It was for toys.
01:57:25.000 It started off, and they went to a meeting, and they're like, Yeah, we have toys.
01:57:28.000 We have a show, everything.
01:57:29.000 And they're like, Great, we'll sign you, Hasbro, or whatever. 0.99
01:57:31.000 And they're like, Shit, now we got to make a show. 0.99
01:57:33.000 Yeah, they're like, What's it about? 1.00
01:57:34.000 And they're like, We'll figure it out.
01:57:34.000 Yeah, that's why the show makes no sense.
01:57:36.000 Didn't they just have a movie about that come out?
01:57:38.000 Yeah.
01:57:38.000 It made no sense.
01:57:39.000 That was it.
01:57:40.000 Did it do well?
01:57:41.000 I bombed.
01:57:41.000 Oh, really?
01:57:42.000 It makes no sense.
01:57:43.000 The movie of He Man or the movie about the The movie of the He-Man movie that just came out.
01:57:46.000 Like a big budget superhero.
01:57:48.000 He tried to make it a comedy, man.
01:57:49.000 It looked terrible.
01:57:50.000 It shouldn't have been a comedy.
01:57:51.000 It should have been hot action, like Conan or something.
01:57:54.000 Yeah.
01:57:54.000 All right.
01:57:55.000 Quanta says: We keep seeing weird stuff, especially seeing media dropping.
01:58:00.000 And so far, the only answer people can come up with is USAID was funding it.
01:58:04.000 Why don't we start calling for the release of USAID programs, name and shame, when they exist?
01:58:08.000 All of the USAID programs stopped by Doe so we can see publicly what was being done, a la Epstein files.
01:58:13.000 I would love to see that.
01:58:14.000 We should start, yeah.
01:58:15.000 We want the USAID files.
01:58:16.000 That would be huge.
01:58:17.000 That's brilliant.
01:58:18.000 But, like, Quanta, that's very, very smart.
01:58:19.000 If your dad was it, your dad, would you really want to know?
01:58:24.000 Yes.
01:58:24.000 Look, their funding was crazy, but the problem is that they funneled it through a lot of places.
01:58:28.000 Like they would give it to a charity in the UK, and then that charity would then fund another thing, and the trail would go, and eventually it would end up at these far left protests, of course.
01:58:39.000 But this is your first summer without protests in this country.
01:58:42.000 The funding seems to have dried up.
01:58:42.000 It's interesting.
01:58:44.000 What the hell's going on?
01:58:45.000 This thing just turned down and started making noises.
01:58:47.000 Ah, those robots, dude. 0.61
01:58:49.000 Those.
01:58:50.000 It's a listening device of sorts.
01:58:51.000 ASI, super intelligence act.
01:58:53.000 Hey, by the way, calling it super intelligence?
01:58:54.000 Wrong move, dude.
01:58:55.000 I'm super intelligent.
01:58:56.000 Those things are ASI, Don.
01:58:58.000 Artificial super intelligence.
01:59:01.000 Get it straight.
01:59:03.000 This is super intelligence, bro.
01:59:05.000 I already said it, but it's true.
01:59:06.000 That's hilarious.
01:59:08.000 I like the way you just dropped Don.
01:59:09.000 That's going to the president.
01:59:10.000 Yeah.
01:59:11.000 I'm telling you.
01:59:12.000 Good friend of yours.
01:59:13.000 They are super intelligent, but they're also artificial.
01:59:15.000 I liked watching the press conference and all of the AI bros are desperately trying to say SI every time.
01:59:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:59:23.000 All right.
01:59:24.000 We got time for about one more.
01:59:24.000 Let's see.
01:59:26.000 What do we got here?
01:59:31.000 Let's see.
01:59:32.000 It says Tiff this says.
01:59:35.000 So fun to be here.
01:59:36.000 Usually I'm doing yard work.
01:59:37.000 Sinosky and I are not on the same page about this frat girl's first hit single.
01:59:42.000 I think it should be less nagging, more gagging. 0.99
01:59:45.000 He thinks it should be ketamine, dick, gobbler. 0.99
01:59:47.000 What say you? 1.00
01:59:48.000 Gosh.
01:59:49.000 I like the first one.
01:59:50.000 Yeah, ketamine, mushroom, gobbler.
01:59:53.000 I think the first one.
01:59:55.000 Yeah, what was the first one again?
01:59:57.000 Less nagging, more gagging.
01:59:58.000 Yeah, that sounds better. 1.00
02:00:00.000 You know, and then I have to say dick. 1.00
02:00:02.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:00:03.000 Jessica Clarity, can you give a pep talk to Republicans who are so mad about the war and economy they secretly want Democrats to win to teach them a lesson?
02:00:09.000 I don't think they realize their social ramifications, the social ramifications it will have, and will possibly revive woke agendas.
02:00:17.000 Yeah, I think a lot of them want it.
02:00:18.000 Guys, we're like, we have a Me Too story. 0.79
02:00:22.000 We had a lady get fired from her job for having cornrows, a white lady. 0.84
02:00:24.000 She posted a picture in cornrows, she got fired. 0.98
02:00:27.000 It is 2016 all over again.
02:00:30.000 I'm most back.
02:00:31.000 I'm concerned with Nick Fuentes, and not, I haven't talked to him in a while, Nick.
02:00:35.000 I haven't seen him in a little bit, but like saying, like, he's just happy to watch it all burn.
02:00:38.000 I don't know if he used the word burn down, but total Democrat sweep.
02:00:41.000 He's like, good.
02:00:42.000 They deserve it.
02:00:42.000 Yeah, but he's not really a Republican.
02:00:44.000 So listen, the ratings.
02:00:46.000 They want the ratings.
02:00:47.000 They want to be like, oh, the Democrats are doing it again.
02:00:49.000 The problem with his guys that support him is that when they think, what is it, 2034 or something, when he can run for president, good luck.
02:00:57.000 You will never be able to win as a Republican in this country if the Democrats win.
02:01:00.000 They will flood this country with so many millions of people.
02:01:05.000 He won't get a chance.
02:01:05.000 So it's like that's their dream.
02:01:08.000 They say you burn it this time and then we'll be back in 2034 and it'll be vice.
02:01:12.000 It's, yeah, it's not going to work.
02:01:13.000 I mean, you think we're going to elect a conservative in England?
02:01:16.000 It's impossible now.
02:01:16.000 It's never going to happen.
02:01:18.000 They've done a great job.
02:01:19.000 They flood the country.
02:01:20.000 They tried in Biden.
02:01:21.000 They didn't do enough.
02:01:21.000 They're going to double it, triple it this time.
02:01:23.000 Ian, you got to post the chicken blinder.
02:01:24.000 Just a picture of the chicken with a blinder on saying repeal the 19th.
02:01:28.000 No, no, I don't want to repeal the 19th.
02:01:31.000 Repeal the 19th question mark?
02:01:32.000 Yeah, they do.
02:01:33.000 It's too, they won't know what it means.
02:01:34.000 It's too, uh.
02:01:35.000 We're going to wrap things up.
02:01:36.000 Smash the like button, share the show with all your friends.
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02:01:40.000 You know what you should do?
02:01:41.000 If you're, you know, like when you're, you know, when you go out and you're like, turn the TV on for the dog, turn on Tim Kestir off the dog.
02:01:45.000 You know?
02:01:46.000 You'll watch him wag his tail when I do it.
02:01:46.000 There you go.
02:01:47.000 He will, yes, right.
02:01:48.000 He's going to be like, you know, and then next time he sees Ian on the street, he's going to be all excited and happy.
02:01:52.000 And then Ian will take a picture with him.
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02:01:58.000 I started a new show after your boys last time I was here kept telling me that this is the thing to be doing.
02:02:03.000 So called the Intel Report on YouTube.
02:02:06.000 And we just do a couple of foreign stories once a week talking about what's going on in the world.
02:02:10.000 So, yeah, that's fun.
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02:02:51.000 Yeah, thanks for coming again, Thomas.
02:02:53.000 Always good to have you.
02:02:55.000 The Tim Pool Show this Sunday, 6 p.m., is going to be epic.
02:02:59.000 We had Jillian Michaels on, and it's looking so good.
02:03:03.000 The production, the new set that we had set up, we're still setting up the new set.
02:03:08.000 So you're going to see us in this temporary new set.
02:03:10.000 Looks really, really great.
02:03:11.000 And I honestly think the conversation I had with Jillian is one of the best conversations I've had in a very, very long time.
02:03:17.000 So that'll be the Tim Pool Show on Sunday.
02:03:18.000 Don't miss it, and we'll see y'all there.