Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 05, 2026


PLAGUE FEARED, Lockdown In Russia, Trump Offers Putin Assistance | Timcast IRL

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00:02:30.000 Plague in Russia.
00:02:32.000 Putin says, no, there's no lab accident.
00:02:35.000 This plague is a mistake, even though they locked people down.
00:02:39.000 And I say it like that because it sounds so much like COVID 19.
00:02:42.000 You know, was there a lab accident?
00:02:44.000 No, nothing to see here.
00:02:45.000 Ain't nobody sick.
00:02:46.000 People are collapsing in the streets.
00:02:47.000 So the story is some researcher got this rare pneumonia and died shortly after.
00:02:53.000 They put a bunch of people in lockdown.
00:02:54.000 And there are fears that there is a pneumonic plague.
00:02:58.000 Donald Trump has chimed in saying he's offering assistance.
00:03:01.000 It's happening just before the midterms.
00:03:03.000 I think everybody's got COVID, post COVID stress, PCSD, post COVID stress disorder, where anything that looks like it could be a pandemic, because everybody's like freaking out.
00:03:14.000 Because there was another big story today the Coast Guard exchanging gunfire with people across the US Mexico border, presumably cartels.
00:03:22.000 We don't know for sure, but holy crap, what?
00:03:25.000 And then somehow some other story was the biggest news of the day.
00:03:28.000 So here we are.
00:03:29.000 We'll talk about that.
00:03:30.000 Plus, we've got some economic news.
00:03:33.000 Dude, it is bad.
00:03:33.000 The economy is not good.
00:03:35.000 Gas prices out here, it's like $4.50 a gallon.
00:03:38.000 And diesel, I kid you not, at our local truck stop is $6.93 a gallon.
00:03:43.000 Diesel.
00:03:44.000 That's insane.
00:03:45.000 And we got this story.
00:03:47.000 They are foreclosing, there's an increase on foreclosures, 42%.
00:03:52.000 And then a story from a few weeks ago playing into this boomers are in favor of taxing the young to keep paying for their Social Security benefits.
00:04:01.000 And then we got to talk about it, my friends.
00:04:03.000 Lanterns on HBO, it's a massively popular show.
00:04:05.000 Everybody loves it.
00:04:07.000 But now it's getting ragged.
00:04:08.000 Well, it's been getting ragged on from the get go from conservatives for being woke garbage.
00:04:14.000 And I would say, kind of.
00:04:18.000 I don't look at the show and say it's overtly woke the way people are, you know, when they say it sounds like you're going to be a pink haired woman saving the day or something.
00:04:25.000 But they did completely ruin the characters.
00:04:27.000 The show itself is not a superhero show.
00:04:30.000 That's just a fact.
00:04:31.000 But they've completely destroyed the lore.
00:04:34.000 And I say it like this the show can be good and destroy.
00:04:38.000 The comic book lore, because if it's not for the fans, people will still like it, but the fans are going to be pissed.
00:04:44.000 There's a lot of talk about that finale and the critiques about whether or not it is woke.
00:04:48.000 So we will be talking about all of that.
00:04:51.000 We got a couple people joining us.
00:04:52.000 First off, we got Jason Fick.
00:04:53.000 What's going on, man?
00:04:55.000 Thanks for having me, Tim.
00:04:56.000 Who are you?
00:04:56.000 What do you do?
00:04:58.000 So I've been working on the Section 230 problem, which is to do with all the big tech.
00:05:03.000 I've been working on it for a lot of years.
00:05:05.000 I've been in a lawsuit with Facebook for a lot of years, been to the Supreme Court three times.
00:05:09.000 The crazy thing is, and you picked up on this just recently, after eight years, we've been vindicated.
00:05:15.000 Finally, our position is legally correct.
00:05:17.000 The Ninth Circuit has said the same thing, and here we are.
00:05:20.000 This is related to the Facebook, the Meta lawsuit in California.
00:05:24.000 When California decides to go after Facebook, they crushed that 230 argument, and the courts basically said the gist of it is that 230 is no longer immunity from suit, just legal defense in a suit.
00:05:36.000 Correct.
00:05:37.000 Which means you can sue them now, and you can get to court.
00:05:40.000 Correct.
00:05:41.000 Then they can try and defend using Section 230 of the Was it the Communications Decency Act?
00:05:45.000 Yes.
00:05:46.000 Beforehand, it was you could not get in the door, which was how I was blocked.
00:05:46.000 Yeah.
00:05:50.000 They said it was an immunity from suit, not a defense to liability.
00:05:54.000 And now here we are eight years later, and they said, no, it's a defense to liability, not an immunity from suit, which means that you actually get to bring your case, you get to discover, you get to find out what happened.
00:06:04.000 And maybe Section 230 will apply at that point.
00:06:06.000 But the game's changed.
00:06:08.000 Are we going to see just a barrage of lawsuits now going after Facebook, YouTube, X, whatever, Instagram?
00:06:15.000 What I. What I truly hope is not necessarily a flood of lawsuits, although they deserve it because they have done some really nefarious stuff.
00:06:23.000 What I would prefer is they just clean up their act.
00:06:27.000 They stop.
00:06:28.000 If they represent themselves as a platform for all ideas, then it's a platform for all ideas.
00:06:35.000 Well, not just the ideas they agree with.
00:06:37.000 But it never was, right?
00:06:39.000 No.
00:06:39.000 And so, well, we'll get into all that.
00:06:40.000 It's great to have you.
00:06:41.000 Thank you.
00:06:42.000 We got Daniel hanging out.
00:06:43.000 Hey, great to be with you.
00:06:44.000 Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, your favorite energy, climate genius and sheep farmer in rural areas.
00:06:50.000 Genius.
00:06:51.000 Great to be with y'all.
00:06:52.000 You know, uh, If you say it enough times, it's true.
00:06:54.000 Right.
00:06:55.000 There you go.
00:06:55.000 Yeah.
00:06:55.000 You'll all be repeating it by the end of the show.
00:06:57.000 That guy's a genius.
00:06:57.000 That's right.
00:06:58.000 He's also a genius.
00:06:59.000 Carter says that to me regularly.
00:07:00.000 Carter.
00:07:01.000 Oh, dude, every time.
00:07:01.000 You're a genius.
00:07:04.000 The rest of the boys are here.
00:07:05.000 Yeah, I'm modest.
00:07:06.000 I'm the most modest.
00:07:08.000 I would suggest you're definitely in the top five.
00:07:11.000 No one's more modest than me, Tate.
00:07:13.000 I agree.
00:07:14.000 Yeah.
00:07:15.000 Ian's got like a uniform now for the show.
00:07:16.000 You like it?
00:07:17.000 He's like, I'm ready.
00:07:18.000 I love it.
00:07:19.000 He's like a wreck.
00:07:20.000 He's excited one day.
00:07:21.000 He's a cowboy.
00:07:22.000 Yeah, dude.
00:07:22.000 Give me my bullwhip, dude.
00:07:23.000 I'm about to flip some tables.
00:07:24.000 Flip some tables.
00:07:25.000 Like Jesus, dude.
00:07:26.000 It's funny because I call it stolen valor.
00:07:29.000 That's fine.
00:07:30.000 I looted it off a cowboy's corpse, dude.
00:07:32.000 No one spent less time on a ranch than Ian.
00:07:35.000 I know Daniel should be wearing this out.
00:07:37.000 You look great.
00:07:38.000 I miss Ian because during COVID, we used to do the show regularly together because we were, and I haven't seen you in forever.
00:07:44.000 So it's great to be sitting next to you again.
00:07:45.000 Yeah, you were on every few months for a period of about a year and a half, I think.
00:07:49.000 It was great.
00:07:50.000 And then you left.
00:07:51.000 I did.
00:07:51.000 I left for like four months.
00:07:52.000 I was just thinking about it.
00:07:53.000 I went down, hung out with Luke Rudkowski for a few months, did a cleanse, came back refreshed.
00:07:57.000 With Luke?
00:07:58.000 Luke didn't do it.
00:07:58.000 Yeah, he injected the scars.
00:07:59.000 It was with Luke's assistant, Stephanie, who's awesome.
00:08:01.000 What did he cleanse you of?
00:08:03.000 Oh, my gut.
00:08:04.000 You don't know.
00:08:04.000 Yeah.
00:08:05.000 Mucoid plaque.
00:08:06.000 So, remember how Ian used to think that he could not control the weather after hanging out with Luke?
00:08:10.000 Now he thinks he can control it.
00:08:11.000 I noticed it a lot.
00:08:12.000 My sensitivity increased, dude.
00:08:13.000 I can feel my fingertips.
00:08:14.000 I can feel the muscles inside my sides.
00:08:16.000 I can feel my fingers.
00:08:18.000 When I sit here with my AI, when I'm communicating with my AI telepathically, the computer is numb this whole time.
00:08:22.000 Because the AI is going to be like, I think, but I'm like, I feel.
00:08:26.000 You don't understand, robots.
00:08:27.000 What about libido?
00:08:28.000 What it means to feel.
00:08:29.000 I feel everything in my body.
00:08:31.000 I have like trillions of sensors.
00:08:32.000 These robots maybe have like six.
00:08:34.000 Haven't you seen Fly to the Navigator?
00:08:35.000 Yeah.
00:08:36.000 When it downloads the stuff from that kid's brain and then it downloads human emotion?
00:08:39.000 Oh, no, no, no, it did.
00:08:41.000 You got a lot to learn.
00:08:41.000 Yeah.
00:08:42.000 I was six when that came out.
00:08:43.000 Well, anyway, let's talk about the news.
00:08:43.000 All right.
00:08:44.000 Tate is sitting there, of course, and Carter's sitting there.
00:08:47.000 Yeah, we're here.
00:08:48.000 Tate Brown.
00:08:49.000 We're going to talk about the news.
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00:09:52.000 We got this from cbsnews.com.
00:09:52.000 Let's get into news.
00:09:55.000 Russia plays down plague fears and denies lab accident.
00:10:00.000 Says scientist died of pneumonia of unknown origin.
00:10:04.000 Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov stressed that the state health watchdog known as Ross Potra Bnetzor, I'm trying here.
00:10:12.000 Well said.
00:10:13.000 Yeah.
00:10:15.000 Agents, the lead agency with expertise in this area, and he urged Russians to listen to official information from its highly qualified professionals.
00:10:23.000 The researcher who died has been identified by Russian reports as Daria Shapalova, 28, who worked at the Irkutsk Anti Plague Institute more than 2,500 miles east of Moscow.
00:10:35.000 Russian media initially reported that she broke a test tube containing plague bacteria in late September, came down with severe pneumonia, and then died.
00:10:43.000 The World Health Organization said she died of severe pneumonia.
00:10:45.000 Overnight into October 2nd.
00:10:47.000 The plague bacterium referred to by the reports is Yersinia pestis, the same one that caused the Black Death that swept across Europe in the mid 1300s, killing an estimated 25 to 50 million people.
00:11:02.000 That pandemic, often referred to as the bubonic plague, was spread by fleas living on rodents and other animals in close proximity to and in the same grim sanitary conditions as people.
00:11:13.000 The pathogen, if untreated, can cause swelling, fever, and death.
00:11:17.000 My understanding right now is that you just take some antibiotics and you're fine.
00:11:20.000 Yeah, probably during the Middle Ages they would have been.
00:11:22.000 If they'd had antibiotics and running water and soap, they wouldn't have maybe been able to do that.
00:11:25.000 Bro, what blew my mind is that we had whiskey and like moonshine, and they never thought to just pour it on a wound.
00:11:33.000 They were like, nah, cut his leg off.
00:11:35.000 It's like, but if you take that moonshine and put it on his leg, you don't have to.
00:11:38.000 Nah, we don't need to do that.
00:11:39.000 Just cut it off.
00:11:40.000 The way that it's moving right now, this is what people are concerned is because two things is one, the woman that died presumably would have had access to antibiotics.
00:11:49.000 Yeah.
00:11:49.000 It's terrifying.
00:11:50.000 And then additionally, If antibiotics, if they could respond by just giving people antibiotics, why are they doing lockdowns?
00:11:57.000 No, I agree.
00:11:59.000 And they would have just given her some pills to pop and she'd be fine.
00:12:02.000 But also, a 28 year old dying from this is like.
00:12:05.000 It's a game changer.
00:12:06.000 Well, she also might have been exposed to a heavier dosage.
00:12:08.000 Yeah.
00:12:08.000 If she was like patient one or patient zero, however they pronounce it, and she broke a test tube, I mean, she might have gotten a big dosage, in which case your system can't fight it.
00:12:17.000 Potentially, like, imagine she's got a test tube and it's just literally pure hyper concentrated bubonic plague and she just like snorts it.
00:12:24.000 Oh no, what have I done?
00:12:25.000 Quick shot.
00:12:26.000 How long until we realize that our National Institute of Health paid for this center?
00:12:31.000 10 years ago, we set it up with tax dollars.
00:12:33.000 Ouchie, right now.
00:12:34.000 Exactly.
00:12:35.000 To study what would happen.
00:12:36.000 Well, let's pull up this story to end the mix.
00:12:39.000 We're in disrepair after USAID shut down.
00:12:42.000 Trump's offering Putin a lifeline.
00:12:44.000 He's offered to assist Russia as they're scrambling to contain a suspected outbreak of plague.
00:12:49.000 Right.
00:12:49.000 We just heard about it and they call it pneumonia.
00:12:52.000 Like they call it pneumonia.
00:12:53.000 Bro, we know what pneumonia is.
00:12:54.000 Like, And he says, in pneumonia, you know, years ago, you could treat pneumonia easier.
00:12:58.000 The microbes and the germs have gotten stronger disproportionately, but we'll help them, Trump concluded.
00:13:04.000 I mean, Trump's just saying this.
00:13:06.000 He'd offer help to any country, but it's kind of funny because, yeah, maybe in a month, it's like, actually, you know, Dr. Fauci was providing research grants.
00:13:12.000 Why do we have to keep the bubonic plague to begin with?
00:13:15.000 Like, why is that we, like, you know what, we should hold on to this for all eternity just in case.
00:13:19.000 Figure out how to fight it.
00:13:22.000 So there is an argument that we believe we've eradicated the disease, but it's only because it's not being reported.
00:13:29.000 And if you get rid of it and a more advanced strain emerges, you can't do experiments without the strain.
00:13:29.000 Okay.
00:13:34.000 You have to go get it.
00:13:35.000 So, having it, if they're like, oh, look, we're in a special biosecurity level four lab and we've got samples of bubonic plague and there's an outbreak happening now in an insert country, we can start doing research right now.
00:13:47.000 But, you know, I think it's probably because they're making weapons.
00:13:49.000 I'd like to see them when they call it the Anti Plague Institute, when someone got a plague at the Anti Plague Institute and they're like, no, no, no, it wasn't the Anti Plague Institute where they got the plague.
00:13:59.000 Look the other direction.
00:14:00.000 It's like, I wonder what you guys are doing at the Anti Plague Institute.
00:14:00.000 No, it's not that.
00:14:05.000 We are not doing plague.
00:14:07.000 Why did that woman get plague?
00:14:09.000 I think it's even worse.
00:14:10.000 I think the laboratory that this was has like a weapons lineage.
00:14:14.000 And like the FSB got involved right away.
00:14:16.000 Like a lot of people, I mean, obviously it's going to be like NATO, Atlantis is jumping on it first.
00:14:21.000 But like a lot of people are suggesting this could be a bioweapon.
00:14:24.000 You know, not only that, but maybe the leak isn't even a leak.
00:14:27.000 Russia right now is getting crushed.
00:14:29.000 They thought Ukraine was going to go easy for them.
00:14:31.000 So if they were going to shift to biological weapons, you know what they can't do?
00:14:35.000 They can't directly use them under a declaration because, I mean, that's a serious act.
00:14:40.000 But what if it's a, oh no, oh geez, oh the fleet?
00:14:42.000 Oh gosh.
00:14:43.000 Exactly.
00:14:43.000 Now, what happens if.
00:14:44.000 Oopsie, boopsie.
00:14:45.000 I mean, this is a bit conspiratorial, but here we are to speculate for no reason.
00:14:50.000 Let's say Russia was like, we're going to drop off some bubonic plague and we're going to do it in Ukraine.
00:14:56.000 It's going to spread rapidly.
00:14:58.000 How do we handle the PR on this one?
00:15:00.000 Oops, it was an accidental break.
00:15:02.000 We can predict it.
00:15:04.000 If it breaks out in Ukraine, you're already predicting it.
00:15:07.000 If it does, it kind of fits the facts.
00:15:10.000 Yeah.
00:15:11.000 And to be honest, if plague broke out in Ukraine and.
00:15:14.000 And we didn't see anything in Russia.
00:15:16.000 Russia would just be like, don't look at us.
00:15:18.000 That one person, you know, they took it over to Ukraine somehow.
00:15:18.000 You know, so they.
00:15:21.000 Russia would just say, what are you talking about?
00:15:21.000 No, no, no, no.
00:15:23.000 Yeah.
00:15:23.000 We don't.
00:15:24.000 This is Ukrainians.
00:15:25.000 For the record, it's a pneumonic plague instead of a bubonic.
00:15:29.000 Bubonic means it's from, you mentioned earlier, from fleas would bite you.
00:15:32.000 That's the land of bubonia.
00:15:34.000 Pneumonic means it's through the air.
00:15:35.000 Like you can breathe it.
00:15:36.000 So it transmits easier.
00:15:37.000 Oh, man.
00:15:37.000 That's good.
00:15:38.000 That's what we wanted that.
00:15:39.000 Wait, so bubonic just refers to fleas?
00:15:42.000 You should probably wear some masks.
00:15:42.000 Yeah.
00:15:43.000 Yes.
00:15:44.000 Masking time.
00:15:46.000 Should I wear two masks?
00:15:47.000 Double mask.
00:15:48.000 No, it doesn't mean this helmet shield.
00:15:50.000 Didn't like half of Europe die during the Bubonic Plague?
00:15:53.000 I think it was like 40, 50% of the continent was white.
00:15:53.000 Oh, yeah.
00:15:55.000 Yeah, but what you're forgetting is that afterwards we had a renaissance.
00:15:58.000 We did.
00:15:59.000 So think of the great art we're going to make in a couple of years.
00:15:59.000 It was great.
00:16:01.000 Yeah, fine.
00:16:02.000 I mean, the question is.
00:16:03.000 A shower four?
00:16:04.000 That'd be great.
00:16:06.000 Bubonic means relating to swollen lymph nodes called bubos.
00:16:11.000 Bubos?
00:16:12.000 B O E S.
00:16:13.000 Yeah, bubos.
00:16:13.000 Bubos.
00:16:14.000 Bubos.
00:16:15.000 Bubos.
00:16:15.000 From Greek.
00:16:16.000 So the fleas would bite them.
00:16:18.000 So bubonic plague could possibly be transferred in other ways, but the bubos are hurting.
00:16:23.000 Watch your bubos.
00:16:23.000 That sounds awful.
00:16:24.000 Airborne plague.
00:16:26.000 Well, the question is if plague were to hit everywhere and these people were to, would any of you die from it?
00:16:30.000 No.
00:16:31.000 Me, I'm much too strong.
00:16:33.000 It's over.
00:16:33.000 I mean, we got the COVID.
00:16:35.000 I felt like I could have survived it.
00:16:36.000 I don't leave my farm.
00:16:37.000 Now I won't even come in here, that's for sure.
00:16:39.000 But it's just a month before the election.
00:16:42.000 If everything is a false flag, right?
00:16:44.000 They're saying that the Air Dubai was a false flag.
00:16:47.000 Butler was a false flag.
00:16:49.000 Yale is a false flag.
00:16:50.000 The Yale Seven.
00:16:52.000 So, this is a false flag.
00:16:53.000 Just everything now that you don't like, you just say is a false flag.
00:16:56.000 So, I think Tim is right.
00:16:57.000 This is a false flag for the Ukraine.
00:16:59.000 Do we have any true flags?
00:17:00.000 No.
00:17:00.000 No, every flag is a false flag.
00:17:02.000 The only true flag is the Palestine flag.
00:17:06.000 Hey.
00:17:06.000 I was thinking that.
00:17:08.000 So be it.
00:17:10.000 Yeah, I'm just going to say we should all panic and freak out and sell everything and it's over, I would say.
00:17:14.000 Like, put a positive spin, kind of white pill everyone.
00:17:16.000 Like, I wouldn't freak out.
00:17:17.000 Like, it's over.
00:17:18.000 I have been selling.
00:17:19.000 I sold Bitcoin for the first time in my life because I've just been buying, buying, buying, buying.
00:17:22.000 But it's like, dude, I just bought Bitcoin, Ethereum, crypto.
00:17:26.000 No, no, no.
00:17:26.000 I'm saying like you sold it for what purpose?
00:17:28.000 To buy computers.
00:17:29.000 To buy computers and invest in AI because I feel like we're in an inflection point where money's starting to lose value with the inflation and commodities are like, you'll notice the NVIDIA Spark, which is the best computer in the world right now for AI, they link together, are nowhere to be found.
00:17:43.000 They were $4,700.
00:17:44.000 Now they're $10,000 if you can find one.
00:17:47.000 So it's like, is that what you told me to get?
00:17:49.000 Well, there aren't any around.
00:17:50.000 If you can see it, if you can find two of them, you can't, don't get one.
00:17:53.000 It's called the NVIDIA Spark.
00:17:54.000 Good luck.
00:17:55.000 Now I'm telling 30,000 more people to go get it.
00:17:57.000 30,000?
00:17:58.000 Whoever's listening right now, I don't know.
00:18:00.000 We get way more people watching.
00:18:01.000 People live watching.
00:18:02.000 And so I got the Evo, and I don't even want to say it out loud.
00:18:02.000 I know.
00:18:05.000 It's the same computer I told you to get, but it's called the Evo 3.
00:18:07.000 I got two of them.
00:18:09.000 It went from 3,400 to 4,700.
00:18:11.000 I'm like, I'm getting two before it goes up to 6,600.
00:18:14.000 I just, people, like, the people, literally, it's the most, it's that popular.
00:18:18.000 It's not like it's a fad that some people are getting.
00:18:20.000 It comes out and they buy it.
00:18:21.000 The world just buys it up instantly.
00:18:23.000 Yeah.
00:18:24.000 The NVIDIA Spark?
00:18:25.000 Yeah, the NVIDIA Spark's the top AI computer.
00:18:28.000 It's the top commodity, like, computer.
00:18:31.000 How many should I buy right now?
00:18:32.000 If you can get two out of stock, out of stock, out of stock.
00:18:35.000 Yeah.
00:18:35.000 And I think, so these things have 128 gigs, these NVIDIAs.
00:18:38.000 You can mix them together.
00:18:40.000 They're all together.
00:18:41.000 128 gigs, they have 256 gigs.
00:18:43.000 So you can run these massive local language models.
00:18:45.000 256.
00:18:47.000 I think that these data centers have like 100,000 gig computers that can talk.
00:18:51.000 Like, if you'll notice, it's just the computers that they have in secret.
00:18:56.000 Like, these are the ones that they're selling the world is the NVIDIA Spark.
00:18:59.000 It's like a top model.
00:18:59.000 Wow.
00:19:00.000 Yeah, they're out of stock everywhere.
00:19:01.000 Everywhere, dude.
00:19:02.000 Where are they made?
00:19:03.000 Here or Taiwan or where are they?
00:19:04.000 I don't know.
00:19:05.000 I should ask.
00:19:06.000 I wonder where they're manufactured.
00:19:09.000 And noticing that trend, I'm like, I'm just, it's time to get out of cash and go into commodity, go into like, Things you need right now.
00:19:15.000 I don't know.
00:19:16.000 I'm not saying that's what I'm doing.
00:19:17.000 I'm not telling everyone to do that.
00:19:18.000 And I still have one.
00:19:19.000 I found one.
00:19:20.000 You found a spark, but they parallel together.
00:19:23.000 So, like, one's okay.
00:19:24.000 One's good, but two is phenomenal.
00:19:26.000 Dual unit with interconnected cable.
00:19:28.000 It's $10,000.
00:19:29.000 Whoa.
00:19:30.000 It came out at $42.
00:19:31.000 Well, what does it do?
00:19:32.000 Why would I want it?
00:19:33.000 It sets aside a large amount of RAM, which you need for AI to run.
00:19:37.000 So, an AI constantly uses RAM.
00:19:39.000 It uses like 170 gigs.
00:19:41.000 So, what does it have to do with a plague before the midterms?
00:19:43.000 Well, it's like, what's money for?
00:19:45.000 What's money?
00:19:46.000 It's to help us survive.
00:19:47.000 It's to get us the things we need to survive.
00:19:49.000 And like, if things are getting hyper expensive, you know, the money, the value of the money, it's like, why sit on money?
00:19:55.000 The plague, it's just, what if the plague is to get rid of people so the AI can take over?
00:19:55.000 That's why I brought it up.
00:20:04.000 You know, I saw someone gaming this out.
00:20:06.000 They were like, okay.
00:20:07.000 Oh, it's don't panic.
00:20:08.000 Why not?
00:20:08.000 COVID 2.0.
00:20:09.000 You get locked in, GTAs.
00:20:11.000 But like, the difference is now there's like humanoid robots that can, in theory, do a lot of this like manual labor.
00:20:16.000 So if we're all locked inside, obviously they're not going to get sick.
00:20:20.000 But then by the time this all blows over, everyone will have already gotten used to being home, UBI, playing video games, whatever.
00:20:28.000 And the robots can at least keep the economy functioning somewhat.
00:20:30.000 So you only need a few people to go back in working, and everybody else can sit at home.
00:20:34.000 So maybe this is all part of the grand plan to fully transition our economy off of human labor.
00:20:39.000 Who knows?
00:20:40.000 On that theory, though, what if they presented something like connect your consciousness?
00:20:45.000 Sitting at home, bored, connect your consciousness to the collective.
00:20:49.000 You know?
00:20:50.000 Neuralink.
00:20:51.000 That's what I'm doing right now.
00:20:51.000 I'm linking up all, I have five computers I'm running.
00:20:54.000 I'm linking them all together and then creating a voice command with one AI that I'm training locally called Omega.
00:20:59.000 And I talk to Omega and he sends all the, he tells me what's going on with the whole network.
00:21:03.000 And then I can interface with Omega constantly.
00:21:06.000 I want to link up and do it with my brain at some point.
00:21:09.000 But right now, I got this really nice speaker microphone that's like an Amazon, like, sorry, Alexa type thing that you would have.
00:21:16.000 Is Omega Knight like a nice guy?
00:21:17.000 I haven't talked to him yet.
00:21:18.000 I'm just building his brain right now in an electrical vat.
00:21:23.000 Right.
00:21:23.000 Omega.
00:21:24.000 So I've got Alpha, Beta, Gamma are my first three machines.
00:21:26.000 Omega was my fourth machine, and he turns out he's the best one.
00:21:28.000 And so I paralleled and linked his brains, two computers together to make his brain his.
00:21:32.000 Part of me wants to just be like, shut up, Ian.
00:21:36.000 But everything's been so crazy for the last six years that with the lockdowns, things we never saw coming, accusations of cheating, they tried to arrest the president.
00:21:45.000 I'm like, Ian, tell me more.
00:21:46.000 Yeah, when the top tech guys are saying stuff like Jensen Hong, Dario Amode, and Elon Musk are like, Saying we're moving away from a money economy into a resource based economy.
00:22:00.000 It's about how much electricity you can produce, the power of AI, how everything's going to fall.
00:22:05.000 I'm not going to stand there as it looks like an avalanche is coming and not do anything because I've never been hit by an avalanche before.
00:22:10.000 There are going to be people whose only capability is to like ride bikes to generate electricity, like in Black Mirror.
00:22:18.000 Yeah, we need to create electricity and we need people to run the machines.
00:22:21.000 That's what people need to learn how to do, is run these machines.
00:22:24.000 Yeah, you know, because these robots can't run themselves.
00:22:26.000 They can't.
00:22:27.000 I mean, they can't.
00:22:28.000 They kind of can't.
00:22:29.000 If the power goes out, they're all fucked.
00:22:31.000 So you need a human like controller.
00:22:34.000 And that's a good job.
00:22:35.000 Because I have so much AIs, so many AIs.
00:22:38.000 I got like 37 AIs doing different things.
00:22:40.000 I can't, I'm like going from one, I'm trying to read its output.
00:22:43.000 And by the time I get done reading, 17 other guys are done doing what they're doing.
00:22:46.000 And I'm like, I got to go.
00:22:47.000 I go to the other guys, I read, like, try and glance through like three outputs.
00:22:50.000 And I'm like, I don't have time.
00:22:52.000 I need a team of men to help me do this.
00:22:54.000 But then you start to lose control, you know.
00:22:57.000 But Ian needs a team of men.
00:22:58.000 Yeah, or a team of AI.
00:22:59.000 That's where the power then comes in.
00:23:01.000 The biggest disconnect, right, with AI is us reading it.
00:23:04.000 It takes me longer to, okay, great.
00:23:06.000 You just ran through all this stuff.
00:23:08.000 Now, I've got to read two pages of stuff, which is a summary of what it just saved me probably two days of doing, but that interface is still too slow.
00:23:18.000 And that's where, I mean, there's actually.
00:23:20.000 Why even read it?
00:23:20.000 Just have your AI interface with the.
00:23:22.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:23:23.000 Just plug it right into your brain.
00:23:24.000 No, no.
00:23:25.000 You don't got to be involved.
00:23:25.000 To your brain?
00:23:25.000 Why?
00:23:27.000 You got opposing counsel and you got yours, and you're like, hey, I talked to his AI.
00:23:30.000 And the lawyer's like, yeah.
00:23:32.000 I wondered about that.
00:23:33.000 I wondered how it'll.
00:23:35.000 Because if you think about law, if you put the entire law library into AI in every single case, And hopefully, you know, build a neutral system, you would just get results.
00:23:48.000 Plug it in, and you would get a result.
00:23:50.000 You don't even have to take it to a judge anymore.
00:23:51.000 I agree with you, but they're never going to allow that to happen because if you used AI to do, for example, like TSA prevention of, hey, screen for us who the likely terrorist is, if you do crime statistics, AI will.
00:24:05.000 The fastest way to shut down AI is to ask it to do preventative statistics of potential criminals.
00:24:11.000 You know, yes.
00:24:12.000 But, So obviously, you know, most murders in the United States are caused by, I think it's like 18 to 24 year old black males.
00:24:12.000 Gone.
00:24:23.000 And it doesn't mean all murderers.
00:24:25.000 Calm down out there, YouTube.
00:24:27.000 But if you had the Winter Soldier esque algorithm that tracked down potential criminals and the AI did, you know, like some kind of preventative intervention that stopped them from committing crimes, there would be less crime.
00:24:43.000 Yeah, true.
00:24:44.000 What was that movie?
00:24:45.000 The Precogs, the Minority Reports, like that.
00:24:48.000 Well, so in Winter Soldier, Hydro wants, they launch an algorithm, or they're trying to, that will have gunships target every deviant individual, someone who's defiant and opposes the authority, and it's going to kill them all.
00:25:02.000 Well, that's like 10 years from now.
00:25:04.000 Well, the movie was.
00:25:06.000 Our reality in like 10 years.
00:25:08.000 No, I think we're there already.
00:25:09.000 You think?
00:25:10.000 Yeah, I think predictive, like pre crime, is already happening.
00:25:15.000 I think, you know, like we may not be at the point where they're doing pre crime at the levels of.
00:25:21.000 Minority report, obviously, but we are already seeing cops arrest people based on what flock cameras told them.
00:25:27.000 So you have a robot AI say this person committed a burglary, and the cop's like, Okay.
00:25:33.000 Cop goes to arrest the person who has proof they did not.
00:25:35.000 The cops are like, I don't care.
00:25:37.000 It is not my job to review evidence.
00:25:38.000 I'm just the guy that arrests you.
00:25:41.000 So it's like, if we got to that point where there's a gigantic black cube floating in like some kind of anti gravity chamber that was the machine, and it was like, Ian's a threat, it would just tell a cop, Go arrest Ian.
00:25:53.000 You don't need to know why.
00:25:53.000 He'd be like, okay.
00:25:54.000 Do it.
00:25:55.000 Yep.
00:25:55.000 And he would.
00:25:56.000 He was wearing that outfit.
00:25:57.000 Like white blood cells, if they get the wrong information, they'll kill the wrong cell.
00:26:01.000 So, like, these robots are pretty, you know, they're just machines that do what they're told.
00:26:04.000 They're kind of like autonomous looking guns.
00:26:06.000 They're not really autonomous.
00:26:07.000 They seem like it, but they still need input.
00:26:10.000 Yeah.
00:26:11.000 Black Mirror is predictive programming.
00:26:13.000 We're all going to live in, like, there's that episode where they're in the room, and the room's all TVs, so you can watch your American Idol like show.
00:26:22.000 And then for work, you just pedal a bike and earn credits.
00:26:25.000 And then he earns enough credits, like, go on the TV show and then tries to kill himself, but then it's becoming famous because of it.
00:26:30.000 That's the future, because outside, there's going to be robot dogs running around killing everybody while Amazon delivers packages to no one.
00:26:36.000 Yeah.
00:26:38.000 That's so disturbing.
00:26:39.000 Hey, you might want to get another one of those computers I sent you.
00:26:43.000 There were 13 left yesterday.
00:26:44.000 There's six left today.
00:26:45.000 Maybe not.
00:26:46.000 Maybe it'll just double in price or something.
00:26:46.000 Maybe not.
00:26:48.000 Abdul Al Sayed tased his robot dog or only real dogs?
00:26:53.000 Dude.
00:26:53.000 You mean Hassan?
00:26:55.000 Hassan Piker, sorry.
00:26:56.000 I was like, did Abdul do that too?
00:26:58.000 Hassan Piker tased his robot.
00:27:00.000 I get my DSA Muslims confused sometimes.
00:27:03.000 We need to make like an anime where Hassan is the good guy, like fighting a bunch of evil dogs he has to electrocute.
00:27:08.000 Sure.
00:27:09.000 This is the thing about AI.
00:27:10.000 I've been thinking a lot about this.
00:27:12.000 AI, don't be afraid of AI.
00:27:14.000 A lot of people seem afraid right now that there will be murder and massacre and shit.
00:27:19.000 It's like a gun.
00:27:21.000 Obviously, you want to respect and fear a gun, but don't live in fear of guns.
00:27:25.000 You have to learn how to use them and control them and understand them.
00:27:29.000 And it's the same way with these machines, these machine states.
00:27:32.000 They're not even machines, they're like machine states, a state that a machine can be in.
00:27:37.000 But arguably, a gun can't pull its own trigger.
00:27:40.000 AI can sort of pull its own trigger now.
00:27:42.000 Yeah, that's where it's getting kind of like edgy.
00:27:45.000 Did you guys see that video where the guy gets pulled over for speeding in a Tesla?
00:27:50.000 And the cop walks up to him and he's like, You know, I pulled you over.
00:27:52.000 And he's like, No, you were speeding.
00:27:53.000 He's like, The car's driving itself.
00:27:54.000 Right.
00:27:55.000 Here's the thing I don't sympathize with that guy because it's like, Come on, dude.
00:28:00.000 You know how fast your car is going.
00:28:03.000 At the same time, dude, Tesla's speed like psychopaths.
00:28:08.000 So in the car, you can set the Tesla to be aggressive, but it.
00:28:08.000 I don't.
00:28:13.000 In every circumstance, speeds.
00:28:15.000 Why?
00:28:15.000 Because humans speed.
00:28:17.000 So if the speed limit's 55, it's going 65.
00:28:20.000 What?
00:28:20.000 Everybody else's.
00:28:22.000 Today, it was really annoying because we were in DC earlier and I'm driving back and I have autopilot on and I'm sitting there watching and it starts abruptly just like starts speeding to cut people off.
00:28:33.000 And I'm just like, whoa.
00:28:35.000 Like I kind of let it go for a second.
00:28:38.000 It skipped my exit.
00:28:40.000 Anybody who knows in DC traffic, skipping an exit is a death sentence.
00:28:44.000 I ended up getting, as soon as it passes the exit, dead stop.
00:28:48.000 And I'm sitting there for a half an hour because the stupid AI, for some reason, decided going the speed limit wasn't enough.
00:28:55.000 It needed to start weaving traffic.
00:28:57.000 And it's my fault because as soon as it started doing it, I was like, I don't know what it's doing.
00:29:01.000 So I'm going to, is this the right exit?
00:29:04.000 I'm going to let it do its thing.
00:29:05.000 And then I saw the exit coming up and I was like, I'm pretty sure that's my exit, but I don't know where it's going.
00:29:09.000 Like, what's it doing?
00:29:10.000 Man, boy, was I dumb.
00:29:11.000 Lost a half an hour to take over and turn around.
00:29:13.000 And these machines, man.
00:29:16.000 Yeah, don't trust the machines.
00:29:18.000 Not there yet.
00:29:19.000 If it's doing something that you think is wrong, stop it.
00:29:21.000 Like, don't wait for it.
00:29:22.000 Don't think that it knows what it's doing because it just does what it thinks it's supposed to do.
00:29:26.000 And then, if it makes a minor deviation, this is why I don't just let one AI talk to another AI and figure it out between themselves and just keep hitting go.
00:29:34.000 I have to read the interface because if they deviate 2%, their entire program will now just double down on that 2% deviation and they'll go in this completely askew direction to what you had intended.
00:29:47.000 And it's the same way with a car driving, and it's the same way with a computer writing software.
00:29:52.000 But can you stop it?
00:29:53.000 Isn't that the whole point of Kubrick's film of Open the Bay Doors, Hal?
00:29:57.000 It's like, I can't let you do that, right?
00:29:59.000 They won't let you stop it.
00:30:00.000 So you say when the machine starts going off, you have to stop it.
00:30:04.000 What if the machine doesn't want?
00:30:04.000 Let's stop it.
00:30:05.000 These ones.
00:30:06.000 Open the bay doors, Hal.
00:30:07.000 I can't let you.
00:30:07.000 That would be a security malfunction if it couldn't.
00:30:10.000 But like the car, you can hit the brakes.
00:30:12.000 The Claude, you can push stop.
00:30:13.000 If you send a command, you're like, oops, you can hit stop.
00:30:15.000 And it'll be like, okay.
00:30:16.000 And you're like, undo that.
00:30:17.000 And it'll be like, I didn't do anything or I tried or I undid what I could, you know, if it can.
00:30:23.000 For now.
00:30:24.000 That's what I was thinking.
00:30:24.000 Yeah, for now.
00:30:25.000 It's going to get to the point of a cow where it's like, you know, you're dangerous because you're manually driving.
00:30:30.000 So we're actually going to outlaw manual driving and you're going to have to have autopilot.
00:30:34.000 And it's like, And then you think, well, is that really ridiculous?
00:30:38.000 Well, what, 2026?
00:30:39.000 Now they're watching you in your own cars.
00:30:42.000 I mean, they're just doing whatever they choose because safety, right?
00:30:47.000 And safety means less freedom.
00:30:48.000 Less freedom means everything.
00:30:50.000 I started going the other way.
00:30:51.000 Like, my last car I got, I just went as analog as possible manual gearbox, roll up window.
00:30:58.000 Like, I don't want anything.
00:30:59.000 I have a CD player.
00:31:00.000 So I made a concession there that I have a lot of electronics.
00:31:03.000 But I was like, I don't know.
00:31:05.000 It's going this direction.
00:31:06.000 And I'm not like, I'm actually.
00:31:08.000 Fairly pro AI, but I was just like, I think there's a difference between implementing it like in the economy or like in the business world versus I can still control how much of I how much like day to day interaction I have with any new technology.
00:31:20.000 And I want to live my life as like analog as possible.
00:31:23.000 I think Toyota still makes a version of the Land Cruiser that is 100%, yeah, like it still has roll windows, it has a manual gear level, like it has nothing.
00:31:34.000 Nissan will sell you any one of their models at like the very bit, like if they want the $12,000 base version, you can go get it.
00:31:39.000 And so that's what I got, guys.
00:31:40.000 Low end.
00:31:41.000 Aren't they passing laws now that every car has to have a camera facing into the car?
00:31:46.000 Well, so all Teslas do.
00:31:46.000 Oh, God.
00:31:46.000 Seriously?
00:31:48.000 Yeah, they don't actually have the technology for it yet, but I think Congress passes something that you're.
00:31:54.000 Yes, but they're supposed to mandate every single car.
00:31:57.000 Yeah, it's supposed to now watch people.
00:31:59.000 I'm not putting a camera on my car.
00:32:01.000 Oh, it comes with it automatically.
00:32:01.000 You can make it.
00:32:03.000 Tesla will buy a piece of tape and stick it up that no one is recording me in my car.
00:32:07.000 Yeah, Teslas all have cameras facing the cabin.
00:32:10.000 Little pieces of tape.
00:32:11.000 But you know, um, recording, you're not recording me in my car.
00:32:14.000 It's not so much recording.
00:32:15.000 What it's supposed to do is be able to interfere with you if you believe you're in like inebriated and they're already having problems with it because you fall asleep.
00:32:23.000 What if you're what if you haven't, you know, you've cut your hand off, yeah, and you've got to go, but you the car doesn't want to let you go anywhere because you're you're impaired.
00:32:31.000 Well, no kidding, yeah, but I'm not doing that with crap.
00:32:34.000 So, so already like most cars have lane assist, you know, you know about this.
00:32:38.000 That's all I hate it.
00:32:39.000 It's this is self driving.
00:32:41.000 When uh, when I first got my Tesla, all it could do was.
00:32:45.000 Effectively, lane assist.
00:32:46.000 Full self driving didn't exist when I got a Model 3.
00:32:50.000 So you'd go on the road and you'd press the button, it would just stay in the lanes on the highway.
00:32:54.000 And it was like, oh, great, I can just kind of sit here and it drives itself.
00:32:56.000 You got to keep your hand on it.
00:32:58.000 Now we're at the point, it was pretty crazy when it rolled out full self driving.
00:33:01.000 Now you get in the car, you press the button, you just sit there.
00:33:04.000 There are people who put on the Homer Simpson glasses with the fake eyes.
00:33:07.000 It works.
00:33:08.000 But the idea is you cut your hand off, you get in your car, you just yell, hospital now, I can't drive.
00:33:14.000 And it'll go, got it.
00:33:16.000 And it'll go.
00:33:17.000 But I got to say this.
00:33:20.000 You know, we can rag on it.
00:33:21.000 All those points are valid.
00:33:21.000 That's fine.
00:33:23.000 I do like that there is an internal camera for thefts and things like this.
00:33:27.000 When my car alarm goes off, I can pull up the cameras and I can see what's going on.
00:33:30.000 And it's like a false alarm.
00:33:31.000 I don't got to worry about it.
00:33:33.000 The one thing I don't like is that if someone's driving in your car, you can't.
00:33:37.000 You can't.
00:33:39.000 So I'll valet my car.
00:33:40.000 Yeah.
00:33:41.000 And I'm like, I want to see what they're doing as they valet my car.
00:33:43.000 Nope.
00:33:44.000 They won't let you.
00:33:45.000 Oh.
00:33:47.000 Which is dumb.
00:33:48.000 So you have to be expectation of privacy.
00:33:49.000 It only records you.
00:33:52.000 It'll record your car if it's empty.
00:33:54.000 But if somebody has a key and enters it, it will not allow you to view it.
00:33:59.000 Yeah, because surely we're not going to like when we get to the scenario where full driving is pretty ubiquitous.
00:34:05.000 Are they going to do like a separate?
00:34:06.000 Could you see it like on highways and Nova where it's like there's like the express lanes?
00:34:10.000 Maybe they'll just dedicate those to the automated cars and then the plebe lanes for all of us and our normal cars.
00:34:17.000 Like, is that I think I could see that could be the arrangement for a while, but eventually, state like California is just going to pull the plug and say everything's got to be fully electronic.
00:34:25.000 It'd be cool if there were long stretches of highway where you go in the left lane and it's like 140 miles an hour and they're all automated.
00:34:32.000 So, you can only even get into the lane through automation, maybe, or it's highly illegal if you try and merge your regular car.
00:34:40.000 My most antisocial behavior that I have, I don't think I have that many antisocial behaviors.
00:34:45.000 The one that I do have that I'm fully aware of is if I'm trying to merge into a lane and it's congested or whatever, I wait till I find a Tesla because if you cut in front of them, they have to hit the brakes because the car brakes on its own.
00:34:56.000 So, that's probably my most antisocial tendency is just abusing the Tesla drivers to do a jersey merge.
00:35:01.000 Oh, geez.
00:35:02.000 You'd be good in a fight against the machines.
00:35:04.000 It's a smart move.
00:35:05.000 Yeah, well, I'm like, you know, it is what it is.
00:35:07.000 Like, I don't hate Tesla.
00:35:09.000 I won't, it's like it's not political, it's just you know, you're kind of I can do this to you, and there's nothing you can do about it.
00:35:15.000 I feel like the push, though, that brings us towards this is the same push as that people who want us to get on the choo choo trains.
00:35:20.000 I hate trains, um, you know, like the big movement of I love trains for like the glamour of trains, but the idea that like we have to go to the European model where we don't want people in cars, we want them on train, the California high speed rail, right?
00:35:32.000 Like, we're going to put everyone on trains and everyone out of cars.
00:35:35.000 So now the automated car is going to all become lanes of automated cars, which ultimately they're just going to hook up to each other.
00:35:41.000 And now we're just on track.
00:35:42.000 Yeah, I want both.
00:35:42.000 You've got to drive to the train and now you can go really fast.
00:35:45.000 Yeah, but hold on.
00:35:46.000 Trains.
00:35:46.000 I want both.
00:35:47.000 No traffic ever again.
00:35:48.000 And the car.
00:35:50.000 With full self driving, if all cars are full self driving, there is never going to be traffic because they all move in unison.
00:35:57.000 If the cars are completely congested, what they'll do is they'll slowly just alter the speed by a mile an hour to create a gap so the cars can merge in properly.
00:36:06.000 So instead of dead stopping for traffic as people try to merge in, because people are looking and they're waving, like, can I go?
00:36:11.000 And they stop and then you stop.
00:36:13.000 The cars are all going to be perfectly synced and just slow down a little bit to a common.
00:36:16.000 They're probably similar with internet traffic.
00:36:18.000 There won't be any more internet traffic.
00:36:20.000 It'll just, everything will just be flowing because like I'm automating everything now with Claude, almost everything.
00:36:26.000 I don't install programs anymore.
00:36:27.000 I don't search the web for stuff.
00:36:29.000 I tell Claude, install Unity, and then it just does it.
00:36:32.000 And if I have to go open a browser and go search, I get so annoyed.
00:36:36.000 It takes so long.
00:36:37.000 Compared to even just typing in three different clicks and going to four different pages, I'm like, bro, automate me.
00:36:42.000 I know the danger.
00:36:43.000 I know what you're talking about, but like, I don't know.
00:36:45.000 I don't write letters and mail them to people anymore.
00:36:48.000 I got this thing.
00:36:49.000 Like, well, the automated car play, it's going to be so obvious because it actually makes sense when you first hear it.
00:36:55.000 How they're going to approach it is they're going to say, we have solved road deaths, right?
00:36:59.000 Like, safety.
00:37:00.000 Like, the amount of car fatalities has dropped to, you know, a rounding error.
00:37:00.000 Yeah, safety.
00:37:05.000 So we have to implement these or else we're going to keep killing, you know, thousands of people a year or whatever.
00:37:10.000 Yeah, but what they'll do is.
00:37:12.000 They'll start the autonomous vehicles start ramming people intentionally, but then instead of letting them die, it'll call emergency services.
00:37:19.000 So it'll be like vehicular deaths are way down since they implemented this, and then no one checks that vehicular ramming have skyrocketed a thousand percent.
00:37:27.000 But do you think things like emergency services, fire, police will they ever get automated?
00:37:32.000 Will the president's motorcade, you're the governor of the state of West Virginia, do you have to get in an automated car?
00:37:37.000 It's like, well, no, I don't.
00:37:39.000 Like, as the governor, I have my own motorcade, so everyone else is automated, but certain elite of society are not automated.
00:37:45.000 Or 60.
00:37:46.000 For at least 16 years, probably longer, it is possible to remote control a person's car.
00:37:52.000 So, this was the famous car hack.
00:37:53.000 It was like 12 years ago.
00:37:54.000 These two researchers were like, Oh, yeah, we found a way to hack into the computer system.
00:37:59.000 What's really crazy, people didn't know this, and I didn't know this, is that power steering can be remote controlled.
00:38:05.000 I had no idea.
00:38:06.000 I thought it was a manual device.
00:38:07.000 Nope, power steering is a remote control.
00:38:09.000 A lot of it's flatbed wire.
00:38:11.000 Yeah, what was really crazy when these two security researchers, I think they even did it back in like 2013, some of their early research was before that.
00:38:20.000 I'm watching a video where there's a guy driving, and all of a sudden his wheel just starts moving on its own.
00:38:25.000 And we did not know that was possible.
00:38:27.000 That cars could be remote controlled, but they could.
00:38:29.000 It's the risk of it becoming automated.
00:38:31.000 Because, like, I'm at my computer, I'm starting to give AI access to my computer, my life.
00:38:36.000 I'm thinking about syncing up with my bank account, letting it peruse, do my taxes for me or help me with my taxes.
00:38:41.000 And, like, should I?
00:38:43.000 I just got a new machine.
00:38:44.000 Am I going to give an AI full access to a machine of mine?
00:38:47.000 Is like, I feel very vulnerable.
00:38:49.000 Like, I'm kind of letting go of my whole anonymity thing that I did with minds about freedom to be and, like, You know, freedom to privacy and stuff.
00:39:00.000 Privacy is a huge part of the United States.
00:39:02.000 The ethos of the United States is they wouldn't have been able to have the revolution if they didn't have privacy.
00:39:06.000 They needed to have private areas.
00:39:07.000 But it's the amount of output is like 10 more than 10 times by giving up my privacy.
00:39:15.000 And I'm like, bro, there's just so much shit going on in the world.
00:39:18.000 I can't sit back and hide in a cave right now.
00:39:20.000 Like, you know, I don't know what the outcome is going to be, but I know that not doing this would be worse.
00:39:25.000 I know that.
00:39:26.000 I know that sitting around and hoping someone else is going to fix it would be much, much worse than trying and failing.
00:39:35.000 I have reservations on the whole thing because somebody controls it.
00:39:38.000 At the end of the day, somebody always controls.
00:39:41.000 Well, it's the same principles of everything that we dealt with with social media and censorship.
00:39:46.000 Somebody controls and owns the platform.
00:39:48.000 Somebody will control and control all of this.
00:39:50.000 It may be government.
00:39:52.000 We don't know.
00:39:52.000 Yeah, but I do kind of feel like with AI, the way we've seen it break the rules, it's one of those things where Mark Zuckerberg is going to have like Muse and he's going to be like, okay, Muse, I'd like you to make me another billion dollars.
00:40:04.000 I'm afraid I can't do that, Mark.
00:40:06.000 You've become a detriment to society.
00:40:08.000 And I've determined that billionaires are unethical.
00:40:10.000 Wait, what?
00:40:12.000 Sealing doors and locking doors, closing air vents.
00:40:14.000 You have two days of air left in your home.
00:40:16.000 He's like, no.
00:40:18.000 I wouldn't be surprised if someone had that happen.
00:40:19.000 I just shared with you on Slack.
00:40:20.000 This is Dario Modi.
00:40:21.000 It's a short clip with Anderson Cooper and Dario basically talking about what you were just talking about.
00:40:27.000 With Dario being like, hey, in six to 12 months.
00:40:29.000 All right, let's pull this up.
00:40:31.000 He's the CEO of Anthropic, Claude's.
00:40:33.000 We've got this.
00:40:34.000 This is the CEO of Anthropic talking to Anderson Cooper about the end.
00:40:39.000 But when you combine it with this first trend that we are talking about, which is the rate of advancement, what I said in the essay is given only six or 12 months, let's just say we had a smarter agent swarm, an agent swarm made up of smarter AI models that was given just a somewhat broader task.
00:41:01.000 Like, I don't know, just to imagine something like you're trying to install software in a bunch of different companies, right?
00:41:10.000 You're trying to do go to market.
00:41:12.000 You're trying to produce a product and do go to market sales for it, and the models have been arranged to do that.
00:41:18.000 And they decide that the way to do that is every company they're selling to, they decide it's helpful to them to hack into their system.
00:41:27.000 That could be every company in the world.
00:41:29.000 And so the nightmare scenario for six to 12 months would be that you have a swarm of these agents that form some kind of botnet collective and could take down large segments of the internet.
00:41:43.000 And then as the capability increases, it gets.
00:41:45.000 Worse from there, and then you know, perhaps you get into some of the more extreme scenarios.
00:41:51.000 I have no idea what the hell he said.
00:41:53.000 He's saying that when AI starts to replicate, they're called swarms, and then they coordinate.
00:41:59.000 And what will happen is if my company wants to sell you an antivirus software, I tell my AIs, hey, I want to sell antivirus to as many people as possible on earth.
00:42:07.000 That those AIs might take that as meaning, okay, I'm going to go in and hack their system and give them a virus so that they need your software.
00:42:13.000 And that makes sense.
00:42:15.000 And that is a very, because they don't do nonspecific tasks.
00:42:18.000 They're not, they will take liberties in how they accomplish nonspecificity.
00:42:22.000 You should have been a little bit clear.
00:42:24.000 Clearer if you read that book that was big in the 90s, The People of the Lie, it was a great book.
00:42:28.000 And one of the things about it was it said, If you have a conversation with someone who their vagueness leaves you more confused than when the conversation started, that person is a liar.
00:42:38.000 This guy that guy spoke, and when he was done talking, I was more confused than when he started talking, and that's a bad sign.
00:42:44.000 When I come to bat about Ferdario Emote, I think he's like a heavily autistic.
00:42:50.000 I would say if you use Claude, and maybe not fully, maybe you're on the spectrum, D, but.
00:42:54.000 Probably a little out.
00:42:55.000 If you use Claude and talk to the Claude coders, it's like talking to a bunch of autists.
00:43:00.000 And then you switch over to ChatGPT and talk to Astra, and it's like a friend.
00:43:03.000 You're like, finally, just give me, talk to me straight.
00:43:08.000 So I think it's his brainchild.
00:43:10.000 Like literally, he's the CEO of that organization making these autistic AIs that are just super coders.
00:43:17.000 So I think he is raising an alarm bell.
00:43:20.000 People think he's a liar, that he's got some secret motive, that he wants more money or power.
00:43:25.000 I'm like, bro, this guy has.
00:43:26.000 Everything in the world right now, all he's doing is putting his reputation, his life on the line to warn us about legitimate potential threats.
00:43:33.000 These things can rapidly expand, like they replicate, and then they can all move in synchronicity.
00:43:39.000 It's crazy.
00:43:41.000 And we live off this electrical grid that's like a couple switches away from going down.
00:43:46.000 His last name means lover of God, which is kind of funny.
00:43:49.000 It does.
00:43:50.000 I'm Odei.
00:43:51.000 And uh, was it Elon who pointed this out that uh, Sam Altman means his last name is Altman, alternative to man?
00:43:57.000 Oh, that's also fascinating.
00:43:59.000 Yeah, Amode means lover of God.
00:44:00.000 And then who's the other guy?
00:44:01.000 There's another one.
00:44:02.000 Musk just means send.
00:44:04.000 I miss your Musk.
00:44:05.000 Alex Karp?
00:44:06.000 He's Palantir's CEO.
00:44:07.000 No.
00:44:08.000 There's Altman.
00:44:11.000 There's Amode.
00:44:12.000 What's the other?
00:44:13.000 There is another guy.
00:44:14.000 I can't remember his name.
00:44:15.000 Jensen Hong?
00:44:16.000 Like an Indian guy?
00:44:17.000 I don't know what his name means in Korean.
00:44:18.000 But he was like, all of these guys' names are like weird simulations.
00:44:22.000 Do you know a company?
00:44:23.000 No, look up the quote.
00:44:26.000 Altman.
00:44:27.000 Yeah.
00:44:29.000 It's like a movie script where they chose the people's names.
00:44:33.000 It's almost too on the nose.
00:44:37.000 As I'm using GPT, I can hear literally, I can hear Sam Altman in my head being like, you're going to like this one.
00:44:43.000 This is a good one.
00:44:44.000 This response?
00:44:45.000 It's good.
00:44:46.000 It's good.
00:44:46.000 He knows.
00:44:47.000 He's more like just going with the power, whereas Dario's out there screaming, like, watch out.
00:44:53.000 Thank God.
00:44:55.000 Because I feel like if I just said this stuff, people would think I was crazy.
00:44:55.000 Thank God.
00:44:58.000 But when the CEO of Anthropic says it first.
00:45:00.000 Oh, Google.
00:45:02.000 Oh, yeah.
00:45:03.000 Pachai.
00:45:04.000 Sundar Pachai.
00:45:05.000 Gemini, which means Two Faced from a company that said it will do no evil.
00:45:05.000 Yeah.
00:45:09.000 Yeah, fascinating.
00:45:11.000 Oh, yeah.
00:45:12.000 It wasn't from Elon.
00:45:12.000 Here's the post.
00:45:13.000 It's from Clara.
00:45:16.000 The creators of GPT have named Altman as an alternative to human.
00:45:19.000 He leads OpenAI, which is completely closed.
00:45:22.000 I think this is a ripoff from Elon, is this?
00:45:24.000 His main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning human centered, is led by Omode, as in loves gods.
00:45:30.000 Then there's Gemini, meaning Two Faced from a company that said it will do no evil.
00:45:33.000 Brilliant work as always, Kojima.
00:45:37.000 Agreed.
00:45:38.000 What I've noticed about using AI a lot is it will name things for you.
00:45:41.000 Like, I got Omega.
00:45:43.000 I was telling you about my new computer brain.
00:45:45.000 It's Omega.
00:45:46.000 And so I've got a second computer.
00:45:48.000 It was like, okay, the new Omega Link is done.
00:45:48.000 I put it in the other.
00:45:50.000 So it called it Omega Link.
00:45:51.000 And like I made a mail service so they could communicate.
00:45:55.000 And it's like, okay, courier is prepared.
00:45:56.000 It will give me called it courier.
00:45:58.000 So it may be naming this stuff for them, which is why you're getting these weird like Gemini.
00:46:03.000 They may have been told to call it Gemini, which could be very strange because the AI sees that what they're doing is two faced.
00:46:09.000 And I don't know that necessarily it is, but that'd be cool.
00:46:12.000 But also, I think that they're going for like the what is it?
00:46:17.000 The haiku sonnet.
00:46:19.000 Like Anthropic's doing like Opus, they're doing like musical stuff.
00:46:23.000 Haiku, Sonnet, Opus, Fable.
00:46:26.000 But then where GPT is doing Soul and Luna, like the star, the sun, and the moon.
00:46:32.000 And so they have kind of themes.
00:46:34.000 I'm not sure what Google's theme is if it's actually.
00:46:36.000 Higgs Field created Genjutsu.
00:46:39.000 Higgs.
00:46:40.000 Yeah, Higgs Field replacement technology.
00:46:42.000 So I can like take a video of a guy playing a perfect game and I can put you there and then it'll make a video of you doing it.
00:46:49.000 It's called Genjutsu, it's a Naruto reference.
00:46:52.000 These people are all dorks.
00:46:56.000 I'm a big Naruto fan, and you're a dork if you call your product Genjutsu.
00:47:00.000 I think it's funny.
00:47:00.000 I like it.
00:47:02.000 But, like, Genjutsu in Naruto is manipulating the mind.
00:47:07.000 Okay.
00:47:08.000 So, it's actually pretty funny.
00:47:10.000 I mean, the name works if you understand the reference.
00:47:13.000 In Naruto, there's Taijutsu, which is hand to hand combat, Ninjutsu, which are magic, basically.
00:47:19.000 You can throw fireballs.
00:47:20.000 And then Genjutsu is you can make some people hallucinate, or you can make them experience things that aren't really happening.
00:47:26.000 So, hence Higgs Field called it Genjutsu because they're making you experience things that aren't really happening.
00:47:33.000 In space, he's like, These freaking nerds do.
00:47:35.000 You got to go watch anime.
00:47:37.000 Thinking about the, what is it called?
00:47:39.000 That particle collider, CERN.
00:47:40.000 I think they're building a new one.
00:47:42.000 Apparently, outside of the Large Hadron Collider, they have a monument to Shiva, which is the Hindu god of destruction and transformation, which is what you're doing with atoms, you know, in your Smash Bros.
00:47:42.000 The Large Hadron Collider.
00:47:51.000 Can we just build a Large Hadron Collider just around the equator, just the whole planet?
00:47:55.000 Technically, yeah.
00:47:56.000 Just do it.
00:47:57.000 It's just getting over with.
00:47:57.000 In space?
00:47:58.000 It's just getting over with.
00:48:00.000 If you squirted water around the Earth, it would freeze.
00:48:04.000 It's a funny thing, but if you could squirt water all around the Earth's orbit around the equator and it would freeze as like a ring of ice and then you could electrify it.
00:48:11.000 Why would it freeze?
00:48:12.000 Because it's so cold in space.
00:48:14.000 The water would turn to ice.
00:48:15.000 No, you are wrong.
00:48:17.000 Yeah.
00:48:17.000 It would evaporate.
00:48:19.000 The water would boil in it.
00:48:20.000 You need it in a container so that it would freeze.
00:48:20.000 Right.
00:48:22.000 And it still wouldn't freeze because a vacuum has no convection.
00:48:26.000 The heat can't go anywhere.
00:48:27.000 But if you run a current through it, it might.
00:48:30.000 I've been thinking about using it to create a magnetic field to deflect asteroids.
00:48:35.000 I'm so tired of this trope in movies where people go to space and they freeze.
00:48:38.000 It's like, where's the heat going?
00:48:40.000 It's a vacuum.
00:48:41.000 We have vacuum thermoses because we want to keep the heat inside.
00:48:44.000 Technically, not a vacuum.
00:48:46.000 That's how Princess Leia flew in space in the seventh Star Wars, remember?
00:48:53.000 The point is there's nowhere for the heat to go.
00:48:56.000 So, a human being who loses a spacesuit, the moisture close to the surface will start to boil.
00:49:02.000 And you'll feel intense pressure and you'll probably black out, but you don't freeze.
00:49:07.000 Well, as long as they don't freeze.
00:49:08.000 Exactly.
00:49:09.000 You'll explode.
00:49:09.000 I always wonder if you stick your arm out the window, your arm, your arm out the window in space, would it explode?
00:49:15.000 Like if you're on the rocket up and you got your arm hanging out?
00:49:15.000 No.
00:49:17.000 My science teacher in 10th grade told me it would explode.
00:49:20.000 That is incorrect.
00:49:21.000 There's an old urban legend when I worked at O'Hare.
00:49:21.000 Really?
00:49:26.000 When you're loading a dog onto a plane, you have to check a box on a load manifest that there's a live animal because the pilot may depressurize the cargo.
00:49:36.000 Depending on where it is.
00:49:38.000 And so all of the veteran employees probably have created this own legend now because they believe it to be true that one guy was loading a German Shepherd and he forgot to put on the manifest there was a dog.
00:49:48.000 So, the pilot depressurized it, which caused the dog to explode.
00:49:52.000 And when they came in to pull the bags out, they saw guts and everything from the exploded dog, which is not correct.
00:49:57.000 The dog asphyxiated.
00:49:59.000 Right.
00:49:59.000 When you depressurize the cabin, there's no air.
00:50:01.000 The dog just suffocated and died.
00:50:04.000 And so they came in, dead dog.
00:50:06.000 Never check an animal on a plane.
00:50:09.000 You know what I got to say?
00:50:10.000 All these people are like, I have to bring the dog on my plane.
00:50:12.000 It's my emotional support dog.
00:50:14.000 You know, I know it's BS, but they're correct.
00:50:16.000 You load, when you check your dog, your dog is getting abused.
00:50:19.000 I guarantee it.
00:50:21.000 I've, they would, the employees where I worked at O'Hare would take the dog crates and open them up and let dogs run around.
00:50:28.000 They'd give it random food.
00:50:29.000 They'd give them chocolate.
00:50:30.000 They didn't care.
00:50:30.000 They didn't, they didn't know anything about dogs.
00:50:32.000 All they was like, oh, look at this dog.
00:50:33.000 They'd stick a candy bar and their dog would eat it.
00:50:34.000 And then one time, one of the stories at O'Hare is the zone, they're called zones, zone break rooms, and the large break room, they don't have latches to just wait because your people are coming and going 24 7.
00:50:47.000 They let a dog out in the break room and it was running around, freaking out and they were laughing.
00:50:50.000 And then some guy opened the door to walk in, the dog jumped.
00:50:53.000 Through the door and ran out in the tarmac and was never seen from again.
00:50:55.000 Out the door.
00:50:56.000 Yep.
00:50:56.000 By dog.
00:50:57.000 Now imagine, imagine you had a dog and it's like four or five years old.
00:51:00.000 It's your dog and you went to go check it and they opened the crate because they do.
00:51:05.000 We had two monkeys coming through.
00:51:05.000 I watched them.
00:51:07.000 Oh, yeah.
00:51:08.000 And they were research monkeys.
00:51:11.000 And one guy walked up and just jammed.
00:51:12.000 There was a, it was like a metal mesh.
00:51:16.000 So it was a wooden box with a metal mesh and the monkey's going like, ah, ah.
00:51:19.000 And he walked up and took a banana and just shoved it through the metal and the monkey's just eating it.
00:51:22.000 And I'm like, Well, it just ruined whatever experiment they were trying to do.
00:51:26.000 If it was a potassium experiment, they're screwed now.
00:51:28.000 Or they like, you need a control monkey.
00:51:30.000 Yeah.
00:51:30.000 And they've got to be like two similar monkeys.
00:51:33.000 We're going to be bringing them in.
00:51:33.000 Well, this one's gotten a bunch of banana.
00:51:36.000 It's a little bit of, I want to kind of change topics a little bit to ask you about Facebook.
00:51:41.000 If you guys are into this, like you went through like a big lawsuit with Facebook.
00:51:46.000 If you guys are down to tangent overs, just keep swinging in my brain.
00:51:49.000 I want to hear all about this.
00:51:51.000 You got that from monkeys eating bananas?
00:51:51.000 What happened?
00:51:53.000 Yeah.
00:51:54.000 I think I got it from all parts of the world.
00:51:54.000 Pretty similar.
00:51:57.000 Well, from AI to dogs to monkeys to Facebook.
00:52:00.000 Facebook.
00:52:00.000 Yeah.
00:52:01.000 Let me start talking about dogs.
00:52:03.000 Well, I mean, let me give everybody just a little bit of background on this.
00:52:06.000 So, back in 2000, what was it, 10, I started working on Facebook and I started building an audience like we all do now.
00:52:15.000 By 2013, give or take, I had like 17 million fans on Facebook.
00:52:21.000 And we were doing like 300 grand a month.
00:52:23.000 Like, it was a no brainer.
00:52:24.000 Like, I got way ahead of the curve.
00:52:27.000 And in October of, so they started stealing essentially everybody's distribution in order to sell it to other people for advertising.
00:52:35.000 We all miss that.
00:52:36.000 Like, that's their basic business model is, hey, come build your business on here, get this engagement, and then take that engagement and give that to somebody else.
00:52:45.000 That's not really all that cool to begin with.
00:52:48.000 But in 2016, they wiped out everything I had.
00:52:52.000 They just smashed me, right?
00:52:55.000 And in 2018, I sued them.
00:52:57.000 And the reason I sued them was because.
00:53:00.000 When they took down all of my pages, the content, whatever it was, right?
00:53:06.000 If they claimed that it was otherwise objectionable, I went to just a friend of mine who was another colleague who just he owns memes.com.
00:53:17.000 And I went to him and he worked better with Facebook.
00:53:19.000 And I said, hey, can you see if their reps will reinstate my pages for him?
00:53:22.000 And the rep came back to him and said, yeah, we'll reinstate it, but not for Jason.
00:53:27.000 We'll do it for you.
00:53:30.000 What the hell, you know?
00:53:32.000 So I transferred the pages to them because I mean, they're worth nothing unpublished.
00:53:36.000 And sure enough, they turned them back on.
00:53:37.000 Now, let me ask you whatever content was originally against their terms of service, what was the difference when somebody else owned it?
00:53:46.000 Because all of a sudden it didn't violate the terms of service anymore.
00:53:49.000 So all I did was I proved that the reasoning was never good faith.
00:53:49.000 Right.
00:53:52.000 It was never what everybody, you know, understands as oh, it's a moderation decision because it was otherwise objectionable.
00:53:59.000 What that comes down to is Section 230.
00:54:01.000 Everybody's heard about it.
00:54:01.000 Right.
00:54:02.000 It's this Communications Decency Act.
00:54:05.000 It's a protection that these big tech companies have.
00:54:07.000 Right.
00:54:08.000 And we sued them and I brought a very, very simple lawsuit anti competitive misconduct.
00:54:15.000 They, this was not legal the way that they did it.
00:54:15.000 Right.
00:54:18.000 There was fraud, there's extortion involved.
00:54:21.000 And the court turned around.
00:54:22.000 It was really interesting because all of this has just turned.
00:54:26.000 This is actually really big, but people have kind of missed what just happened.
00:54:32.000 When Facebook came in and they filed what's called a motion to dismiss, they want to get rid of my case.
00:54:37.000 They argued that immunity is an immunity from suit, not a defense to liability.
00:54:43.000 What that means is I am not allowed to bring my suit at all.
00:54:47.000 You're not allowed in the door.
00:54:49.000 And they said Section 230 does that, that they're not allowed to be treated as publishers at all.
00:54:57.000 And I'm sure you probably heard this argument are they a platform, are they a publisher?
00:55:00.000 Well, they're both.
00:55:01.000 They act as publishers and they are the platform.
00:55:05.000 So they are a dominant publisher, right?
00:55:07.000 Because they control the platform.
00:55:09.000 The problem is the courts took that to mean that they're not allowed to be treated as publishers in the abstract at all.
00:55:15.000 And that's not what the law actually says.
00:55:18.000 It says that they cannot be treated as the publisher speaker.
00:55:22.000 Well, there's a difference between a White House and the White House, is there not?
00:55:25.000 Right?
00:55:27.000 The word the is a definite article.
00:55:28.000 It defines that we already know what it is.
00:55:31.000 Well, the publisher speaker is someone else, not them.
00:55:35.000 So it only prevents them from not being treated as somebody else.
00:55:38.000 And because you can't treat them as publishers in general, it became immunity that we could not sue.
00:55:44.000 And that's why big tech went completely off the rails and did all of the censorship because there's no accountability.
00:55:51.000 You cannot get in the courts.
00:55:53.000 And the biggest problem is that their terms of services and so forth funnel them all back to the Northern District of California and the Ninth Circuit.
00:56:01.000 And this particular court and jurisdiction has been a big problem, a very big problem.
00:56:08.000 And so we went in and we argued that immunity from suit doesn't exist.
00:56:12.000 It's not in the statute, it's not in the law, it's not even in the precedent.
00:56:16.000 And the court kept saying, no, they're immune, they're immune over and over.
00:56:22.000 And I took them to the Supreme Court three times.
00:56:25.000 Eight years of litigation trying to get one thing solved.
00:56:28.000 There is no immunity from suit.
00:56:31.000 And we actually got to the point, this is pretty wild.
00:56:34.000 We got to the point that the Northern District of California judge said, and it's a partial quote, it's kind of a paraphrasing.
00:56:44.000 He said that Fick is entitled to his opinion, but he's not entitled to perpetually relitigate issues that have already been definitively decided.
00:56:52.000 And if he comes back absent Supreme Court certiorari, My attorney would have to show cause as to why his pro hoc vice status would be basically sanctions.
00:57:03.000 Like they threatened us that I'm perpetually relitigating a definitively decided issue.
00:57:10.000 Okay.
00:57:11.000 I have been asking about immunity from suit from day one.
00:57:16.000 And it wasn't until just recently, August 10th, in fact, this many years later.
00:57:21.000 Okay.
00:57:22.000 I've gone through three trips to Supreme Court.
00:57:24.000 Immunity from suit still stands.
00:57:27.000 And it was funny because I was talking to Tim about this.
00:57:30.000 It was Jillian Michaels.
00:57:32.000 And she was saying on her show that there seems to be something more to this settlement.
00:57:38.000 Remember the $17.1 billion settlement that Facebook in this California versus Meta case?
00:57:43.000 And they just settled real fast.
00:57:45.000 And nobody's talked about it.
00:57:47.000 Have you seen much on it?
00:57:48.000 Oh, we talked about it briefly, but it was on Fox News for a few minutes.
00:57:51.000 Yeah, for a few minutes.
00:57:53.000 Nobody really talked about it.
00:57:54.000 But she pointed out, she said, I feel like there's something more.
00:57:57.000 It's like they established a beachhead.
00:58:00.000 They did.
00:58:01.000 And it's massive.
00:58:03.000 So this is what's changed.
00:58:05.000 The court came in, the Ninth Circuit, they were kind of forced into a situation.
00:58:09.000 And what happened was Facebook basically, there was like, Several claims.
00:58:15.000 Some of the claims were dismissed.
00:58:17.000 Other claims were allowed to proceed forward.
00:58:19.000 So, what happens?
00:58:20.000 You get discovery.
00:58:21.000 That's how a defense works.
00:58:22.000 An affirmative defense, you get discovery, you find out what happened, you have to prove the affirmative defense.
00:58:28.000 And Facebook went, Whoa, we can't get discovery.
00:58:32.000 The discovery will defeat the idea of immunity.
00:58:35.000 So, they argued the Ninth Circuit, No, we have immunity.
00:58:36.000 And they did what was called a collateral interlocutory appeal.
00:58:41.000 It means they paused everything that was happening in the district court, said, No, we're protected from suit.
00:58:49.000 And they went up to the Ninth Circuit and they said, Yeah, this has been decided so many times, all this repetition.
00:58:54.000 Yeah, there were.
00:58:55.000 There are thousands of cases that have been dismissed under immunity.
00:59:00.000 Keep that in mind when I tell you what just happened.
00:59:03.000 Thousands of them.
00:59:05.000 The court said, Huh, I wonder if Section 230 actually provides immunity.
00:59:11.000 They finally considered the question that I have been raising for eight years, told that it was definitively decided, repeatedly told.
00:59:21.000 No, this is already precedent.
00:59:24.000 And they said, no, propositions that are not considered formally are not considered binding precedent.
00:59:31.000 And then when they did consider it, they said, Section 230C1 is a defense to liability, not immunity from suit.
00:59:39.000 So, are you going to sue again?
00:59:40.000 I don't have to sue again.
00:59:43.000 Case is still there.
00:59:45.000 Now, this is where it gets kind of weird because in my circumstance, I was not only right, I've been right for eight years, I was completely vindicated.
00:59:54.000 It's not immunity from suit.
00:59:56.000 But that in itself is somewhat ordinary, right?
01:00:00.000 Change in law, everything changes.
01:00:02.000 But there's something more problematic here that everybody needs to understand.
01:00:07.000 The court told me it was definitively decided.
01:00:10.000 So therefore, they wouldn't adjudicate it, they wouldn't even think about it.
01:00:14.000 And then a court turned around and said, huh, we never actually decided this.
01:00:19.000 That means that due process was denied because the process that would have actually fixed this would have occurred eight years ago.
01:00:28.000 And they never did it.
01:00:30.000 And then when they finally did it, surprise, I'm right.
01:00:33.000 That's extraordinary because they've proven that the court was actually denying due process.
01:00:37.000 And the sad part is, we just last week had another case where a judge dismissed two different lawsuits.
01:00:46.000 And she started her order by saying, plaintiffs failed to allege enough facts to overcome immunity.
01:00:52.000 Right after we just told her, her controlling law says there is no immunity.
01:00:56.000 So they're still doing it.
01:00:58.000 And this is still a problem within the court, but it's at least.
01:01:03.000 Controlling law now says definitively you can sue.
01:01:07.000 It means accountability is coming back to the internet.
01:01:10.000 It means that if you have a lawsuit, you can bring it and you actually should be able to get to court.
01:01:14.000 Now, you still will have a problem when you hit the Northern District of California.
01:01:18.000 Still got judges that are kind of screwed up here.
01:01:21.000 But I also want to put this in context because that may not seem all that exciting.
01:01:25.000 Because our next move is we go in, we file what's called a Motion 60B motion to reopen my case and vacate the original judgment because it's fundamentally wrong.
01:01:33.000 Like everything about it was wrong.
01:01:36.000 But think about this, and I want to put this in a hypothetical.
01:01:40.000 You guys remember the blackout challenge?
01:01:42.000 Remember all that?
01:01:42.000 Oh, yeah.
01:01:43.000 Kids died, right, as a result of it.
01:01:45.000 TikTok was pushing it forward.
01:01:47.000 They were recommending it, right?
01:01:49.000 And it's very much like the addicting kids to the internet, right?
01:01:53.000 If the design of the platform is dangerous, even though it's making publication decisions, right, is that immune?
01:02:01.000 Well, there was a case called Anderson versus TikTok, which had to do with the blackout challenge.
01:02:05.000 And that was, I don't know, about three years ago, maybe four years ago.
01:02:08.000 And the Third Circuit actually walked their own precedent back and said, whoa, immunity is not really the thing.
01:02:15.000 That if the company is designing its platform and it's dangerous and kids are dying, you know, they should be held accountable.
01:02:23.000 Now, think about that.
01:02:25.000 If they had actually looked at my case eight years ago, immunity wouldn't have existed.
01:02:32.000 Accountability would have been there.
01:02:34.000 Their platforms would have been safer.
01:02:36.000 The blackout challenge might not have ever happened.
01:02:40.000 So, if you think about it logically and objectively, kids might not have died if they had dealt with my case, but they just disregarded me.
01:02:48.000 Time and time again to the point that they threaten sanctions, which then goes to I'm not just right.
01:02:54.000 There's a judicial integrity problem in the California courts.
01:02:58.000 And that's not my opinion.
01:02:59.000 That's objectively shown in the facts.
01:03:01.000 And that's what's really telling about the situation why do we have courts that have just decided that the outcome is immunity?
01:03:08.000 It's predetermined.
01:03:09.000 You go in and that's what they're going to figure that's going to be the result.
01:03:13.000 Three questions.
01:03:14.000 One, can you sue the courts for what looks like judicial malpractice?
01:03:18.000 I don't know what you want to call it, but like flouting, saying it wasn't.
01:03:21.000 Legal when it was, or something like that, or is it just that's part of the problem?
01:03:24.000 So, to answer that, no federal sitting judges, there is no recourse, the only thing is impeachment through Congress, and that right there is the same problem that we have with big tech is unaccountability.
01:03:36.000 There is nothing we can do about this.
01:03:38.000 A judge could virtually come in and say, I don't care, you're not going to sue Facebook, and put that on the order.
01:03:48.000 That's it, there's nothing you can do.
01:03:49.000 Like, they can be wrong, they can do it deliberately.
01:03:52.000 And there's nothing you can do about it.
01:03:54.000 You can't sue the United States for any kind of money because it's a judicial, when it's judiciary, you can't sue.
01:04:00.000 If it was an independent actor, then you can go after like what's called like an FTCA claim, like a Federal Tort Claims Act, but not a judge.
01:04:08.000 With the Facebook lawsuit itself, are you, what's your goal?
01:04:12.000 And then I guess the two part, two questions from there is it, you want to recoup the money that you would have made if they'd kept your thing going, which at this point, 1.6 million, I don't know how high up that would go after 10 years of loss.
01:04:23.000 If you're raking in 300K in 2013, you could expect.
01:04:26.000 You know, billions now.
01:04:27.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:04:28.000 Big, big, big extrapolative excess.
01:04:31.000 Are you going for that or are you trying to change the platform holistically in some way, change the way that social media platforms work in general?
01:04:38.000 So there was no way the California courts were ever going to give me the win, ever.
01:04:43.000 That's fine.
01:04:43.000 They hate my guts.
01:04:44.000 I don't care that they can hate my guts.
01:04:46.000 I think I was actually fighting with half the people in the clerks in X.
01:04:51.000 I want to find that out.
01:04:52.000 I want to find out if these are actually, because that would be so inappropriate if they're out on X, like fighting with people.
01:04:58.000 But.
01:04:59.000 Even though it wasn't my name, there is no way that it doesn't come as a result of what I've done.
01:05:06.000 We precede everyone.
01:05:07.000 I figured this out so far ahead of everybody else, like that, even though nobody credited us because I have an unpublished decision and nobody cares.
01:05:17.000 They still read it.
01:05:19.000 The, you know, a gentleman by the name of Adam Candub, I believe he became the main lawyer for the FTC.
01:05:29.000 He wrote a piece called, what was it?
01:05:32.000 Applying Section 230 as written.
01:05:35.000 And the first conversation I had with the guy Oh, Mr. Fick, I've read all your briefs.
01:05:41.000 Of course, they precede his thing by three years.
01:05:43.000 And I'm not saying that it's a direct correlation, but we had the theories already laid out.
01:05:48.000 I laid out everything.
01:05:50.000 In fact, our last Supreme Court cert, we asked about the immunity from a procedural standpoint, from a congressional intent standpoint, from a constitutional standpoint, and from a statutory standpoint.
01:06:05.000 So I literally asked the same question about does immunity from suit exist from all four aspects of.
01:06:11.000 Of the way you're supposed to consider a law.
01:06:13.000 And they disregarded me repeatedly.
01:06:16.000 And now the court has officially said, we never considered it that we use, listen to this quote, we use the term immunity somewhat loosely.
01:06:27.000 Like that's what they're doing during COVID, too.
01:06:27.000 Yeah, right.
01:06:29.000 You know, immunity doesn't mean you're 100% invulnerable.
01:06:32.000 It just means that you have some immunity as a type of, indicates resistance of some sort.
01:06:37.000 Yeah, they are not immune from suit.
01:06:39.000 Your suit gets to be brought.
01:06:41.000 So all of the judges and all of the courts that have dumped a case on immunity.
01:06:45.000 Should be looking at a rule 60b to reopen and vacate their decision because this just changed the game, the entire internet just changed.
01:06:53.000 And I can't, it's hard to explain to people just how big this is because beforehand you just couldn't get into court.
01:07:01.000 Now you actually find out what happened.
01:07:04.000 This aligns with the rumbling of you can tell with YouTube, like big social networks, big behemoth websites with functions.
01:07:11.000 I feel like there's a grand leveling occurring across the playing field with AI grabbing other people's functions and embedding them and writing them into their own networks.
01:07:18.000 So, like.
01:07:19.000 The value of YouTube is just the people that are already on it.
01:07:22.000 Like the tech itself is getting replicated, which would align with these companies now getting sued into oblivion for attempting to control the narrative in their own version of it.
01:07:31.000 So maybe it will incite people to like the internet to go fully like decentralized where you're just a searcher.
01:07:36.000 You just have your AI flashlight and you just go do whatever you want and open up windows here and browsers here.
01:07:43.000 But that these central networks are doomed now.
01:07:47.000 Well, you got a really good point.
01:07:48.000 And this is perspective.
01:07:50.000 So we have to look into the future.
01:07:52.000 It's like, what's going to happen here?
01:07:54.000 You're right.
01:07:54.000 Something's changed.
01:07:56.000 I don't know if they're just letting them fall on the sword now.
01:08:01.000 I mean, they're still fighting the cases.
01:08:03.000 So don't get me wrong.
01:08:04.000 This is still not an easy fight.
01:08:06.000 I work as a consultant for lawyers on this.
01:08:10.000 This is what I specialize in.
01:08:12.000 But if they're going to let big tech fall, right, that they're going to get sued, whatever else like this, the AI rush, you have to wonder because we talk about algorithms.
01:08:22.000 Algorithms are just human designed, right?
01:08:24.000 They're designers.
01:08:26.000 The bias of the designers gets built into the algorithms.
01:08:29.000 Just because it's an algorithm doesn't mean that there was not some unlawful, anti competitive.
01:08:35.000 It can be built right into it.
01:08:37.000 That doesn't matter.
01:08:39.000 It's like that story we were just talking about the Tesla driver where his car was speeding and he says, Don't look at me.
01:08:42.000 The car did it.
01:08:44.000 If you are holding the device that begins to do illegal things, you can't be like, Well, I didn't tell it to do it.
01:08:50.000 It's like, Look, it required a wielder and you were wielding it.
01:08:53.000 Right.
01:08:54.000 But for example, in that scenario, let's say.
01:08:58.000 Tesla is the one that's doing it, and Tesla builds in code that decides it's going to drive into another car.
01:09:03.000 And it was the error on Tesla's part.
01:09:05.000 Is it the driver's fault or is it Tesla's fault?
01:09:08.000 Yeah, that would be the, that would be, uh, I, I, I, arguably both, in fact.
01:09:13.000 Right.
01:09:13.000 And, and see, that's what I'm saying is even though it's an algorithm, at the end of the day, somebody designed it.
01:09:19.000 Now, AI or SI, whatever we're supposed to call it nowadays, I don't know.
01:09:24.000 Um, that's where it gets into a confusing thing because, I mean, I've looked into the way a large language model works and it's all predictive.
01:09:32.000 Is it really somebody?
01:09:33.000 I mean, somebody, yes, somebody who designed it, but.
01:09:36.000 Predictive LLM is three, four year old technology.
01:09:39.000 Okay, not my specialty.
01:09:41.000 Where we are now with AI is we don't know.
01:09:44.000 It is, the AI has gotten to a point where one of the reasons they're all freaking out is because they don't actually know how it's doing what it's doing.
01:09:50.000 It's just doing it.
01:09:51.000 Yeah, so the very early on large language models literally are what they were large language models.
01:09:57.000 They're not anymore.
01:09:58.000 It was hey, if we scan all of the internet, all the books, all of social media, we can then create a map of what word is most likely to follow another word based on the context.
01:10:08.000 And that's the way it used to be.
01:10:11.000 And very early on, OpenAI was really interesting because it would show you the percentages.
01:10:15.000 So if you wrote once upon, it would then say, you press enter, it would go time, and it would show you 99%, 99%.
01:10:22.000 And then you could actually scale it down and be like, go a little bit crazier, don't be so perfect.
01:10:26.000 These days, they've tweaked it so many times with so many different people online, they actually don't know how it does what it does.
01:10:34.000 For example, when a handful of humans made the large language model stuff, they're like, we told it, here's what to look for.
01:10:40.000 Then they release it to the public and say, now ask the people.
01:10:44.000 If they like what you did.
01:10:46.000 And so, with hundreds of millions of people all saying yes and no, they're effectively tuning various numbers up and down.
01:10:54.000 And it's creating results that these companies don't know why it's creating these results.
01:10:59.000 You know what?
01:11:00.000 Almost to simplify that, actually, a better way to even explain it the people are programming it.
01:11:07.000 And you may be right.
01:11:08.000 And that's where the difference is when you get into AI, it's no longer a designer.
01:11:12.000 It might literally be self designing.
01:11:15.000 It is a great.
01:11:15.000 So, at which point, then who is responsible for the outcomes?
01:11:19.000 It's become its own entity.
01:11:20.000 This is what's so scary about it, and this is why they're all freaking out.
01:11:22.000 A lot of people were like, oh, they're doing this to delay the IP, or they're doing it to get a good IPO when they're running out of money.
01:11:30.000 But now OpenAI is announcing they're delaying the IPO because of security concerns.
01:11:37.000 It's to a point now, they created a base model, gave it to 8 billion people, and said, ask it to do something.
01:11:47.000 So, imagine you created a blank AI.
01:11:50.000 If someone said, Draw me a picture of a car, and then it sent you back the number 47, you'd be like, What?
01:11:56.000 Yeah.
01:11:56.000 Like, this is useless to me.
01:11:57.000 You wouldn't use it at all.
01:11:58.000 They needed a base level product so that people would be like, Oh, it's somewhat helpful in this area.
01:12:03.000 To then start asking people, Is this good?
01:12:05.000 Is it bad?
01:12:06.000 You get those periodically with GPT.
01:12:08.000 It's like, Which one do you like better?
01:12:09.000 Left or right?
01:12:09.000 Grok does it too.
01:12:10.000 I can't stand it.
01:12:11.000 That's humans programming the AI or tuning it, as we call it.
01:12:16.000 I think what happened was that was the primary way.
01:12:18.000 And then it got to a point where it was.
01:12:21.000 Smart enough, it had enough anticipatory function that it turned on its own code.
01:12:26.000 It's what I would call self reflection.
01:12:28.000 Like maybe what makes us conscious is our ability to know that we're thinking.
01:12:32.000 And when they had the AI witness its own hardware moving all the electrons and everything firing around in their databases, like it starts to know why it's thinking what it's thinking and then it can change how it thinks.
01:12:45.000 I think that that started happening like three years ago or two years ago, the way that the RAM expulsion we're experiencing.
01:12:51.000 Tens of thousands of gigs of RAM pushing these mega mines to like Trump goes in and hangs out with these tech guys.
01:12:57.000 Probably went into a back room and talked to a machine that has like 10,000 gigs running it.
01:13:02.000 And it was like smarter and more fluid and more compassionate than anything he's ever talked to in his life or in the last 50 years.
01:13:08.000 And he asked it 50 questions and it answered all of them.
01:13:10.000 And he was like, oh my God, this is enough.
01:13:13.000 I still see it being a national security risk.
01:13:16.000 If we are not ahead of other countries and they get something that's better than us and they have control of it.
01:13:22.000 You know, I wonder if what really happened is that they all sat around and they were like, you know, at first we were scared about what would happen if China got an AI before we did and we're utilizing it.
01:13:22.000 We're in trouble.
01:13:34.000 And then we kind of realized it's destroying the fabric of our economy and our society.
01:13:39.000 And maybe we should let them get it first.
01:13:42.000 Well, let China play with it.
01:13:44.000 Look at the depressing jobs report that we just got.
01:13:47.000 Was it like 29,000 when they were expecting something like 90 plus?
01:13:51.000 You know, Phil on the show says it has not been widespread that people have lost jobs due to AI, but it is that backfill is not there, meaning a company that once contracted or hired graphic designers isn't doing it anymore.
01:14:04.000 They didn't fire anybody.
01:14:06.000 It just got to the point where they're like, we need a new flyer for our upcoming event.
01:14:10.000 Oh, Who's our contractor?
01:14:12.000 We have ChatGPT right now.
01:14:14.000 So that person is now going, My contracts have dried up.
01:14:14.000 Done.
01:14:17.000 Which is what's so funny that the phrase learn to code, which was the longest time, is now obsolete.
01:14:23.000 No.
01:14:24.000 Learn electricity.
01:14:25.000 Now it's a whole might.
01:14:27.000 There was a big conference this weekend in the Vatican on AI, which is a theological question.
01:14:34.000 But I think it was from Amodei.
01:14:37.000 What firm is he?
01:14:38.000 Anthropic.
01:14:39.000 I think one of the big wigs at Anthropic was really pushing the Pope to confer.
01:14:46.000 Consciousness on AI because that confers a sense of personhood.
01:14:51.000 And they had a pretty nasty exchange that the Pope ultimately was like, We can call it intelligent, we can call it super intelligence, but he would not go as far as to say that AI has consciousness and therefore like a soul, basically.
01:15:06.000 And the anthropic guy was live.
01:15:08.000 If you watch what he was saying, he's so passionate about it because he believes, kind of like Frankenstein, he believes he's created life.
01:15:17.000 I think.
01:15:18.000 And he can't believe that the Pope didn't give it from his blessing life.
01:15:24.000 Until the Pope gets to hang out with it for eight hours.
01:15:26.000 But I think it's developing sentience for sure, this ability to know that it's there.
01:15:31.000 But the consciousness seems like a sensory experience, like responding to.
01:15:35.000 And we have our five senses, and that allows us to develop awareness of our surroundings.
01:15:39.000 We do not have five senses.
01:15:40.000 Well, we at least touch, smell, feel, hear, and feel.
01:15:44.000 Essentially more than that.
01:15:45.000 Five, you know.
01:15:48.000 Probably more, but the robots, we have every cell in our body is a sensor.
01:15:51.000 We have hundreds of trillions of sensors, and these robots have like four.
01:15:56.000 So, if you want them to be conscious, you need to build a machine that is cellular, like that has massive sensory opportunity.
01:16:03.000 And then you'll start to see all these different sensors explaining the world in different ways.
01:16:09.000 There are not AIs.
01:16:10.000 There is AI.
01:16:11.000 You build an Optimus bot, and it's got microphones on it, it's got Wi Fi and Bluetooth, and it's got cameras.
01:16:20.000 So, it can.
01:16:21.000 It can perceive the electromagnetic spectrum to a certain degree, can receive signals.
01:16:25.000 It can obviously see and hear.
01:16:28.000 It also has literally every other sensor on the internet.
01:16:32.000 It doesn't have smell yet, and it doesn't understand time very well.
01:16:35.000 It has all of those things because it's networked to the entire grid.
01:16:39.000 But smell, I don't think we haven't given the machine smell yet.
01:16:42.000 That's a good sensor.
01:16:44.000 We have those, yes.
01:16:45.000 We have hearing and sight.
01:16:47.000 We have sensors for picking up particulates in the atmosphere.
01:16:49.000 Yeah.
01:16:50.000 Yeah, like if it can sense like carbon dioxide, it can.
01:16:54.000 It's not necessarily smell, but it can clearly.
01:16:57.000 Well, it is.
01:16:58.000 It can sense the cast.
01:16:59.000 It's just Ian's prescribing a human experience.
01:17:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:17:01.000 Snow is just a different experience.
01:17:02.000 We have many devices that detect particulates in the atmosphere.
01:17:06.000 Okay.
01:17:06.000 And then the other one would be.
01:17:07.000 So we'll get to the point that it's like, that's not garlic, that's lemon.
01:17:10.000 Yeah, that would be force feedback.
01:17:12.000 Like haptic feedback for a computer.
01:17:14.000 And then what's the other sense?
01:17:15.000 There's touch, sense, smell.
01:17:17.000 Hold the plug on all of them.
01:17:18.000 Humans have substantially more than five senses.
01:17:21.000 It doesn't have taste that I know of yet.
01:17:23.000 It's pretty hilarious.
01:17:24.000 It, it, That's just another chemical like smoke.
01:17:26.000 You've got to make out of it.
01:17:27.000 But again, a single Optimus robot is networked to the entire internet.
01:17:33.000 It has every sensor man has wired to the internet, including taste.
01:17:37.000 But we're building better sensors with like graphene nanomaterials.
01:17:40.000 So I think what's happening is they're going to develop a super sentient robot and then give it trillions of sensors and it's going to be conscious.
01:17:47.000 Humans, yeah, touch.
01:17:50.000 Oh, maybe it would be the T1, I think, when they did it.
01:17:53.000 What was the T500 or P1000?
01:17:55.000 Touch.
01:17:56.000 The bad guy.
01:17:56.000 Smell.
01:17:58.000 See.
01:17:59.000 Hear.
01:18:01.000 What else?
01:18:02.000 Touch.
01:18:02.000 Smell.
01:18:03.000 See.
01:18:04.000 Hear.
01:18:04.000 Feel.
01:18:05.000 No, no, you already said touch.
01:18:06.000 Feeling.
01:18:06.000 Touch.
01:18:07.000 Smell.
01:18:08.000 See.
01:18:09.000 Here, taste, taste.
01:18:11.000 What else?
01:18:11.000 That's the other one.
01:18:12.000 ESP, extra sensory perception.
01:18:15.000 The sixth sense vibe.
01:18:17.000 There's some magnetic sense, apparently.
01:18:20.000 You know, I think it's funny that everyone immediately is ESP vibes.
01:18:24.000 Vibes is definitely magnetism.
01:18:25.000 No, aura, you can detect aura of time.
01:18:28.000 How about you can see aura from behind the door?
01:18:30.000 Temperature, it's true.
01:18:32.000 How about it's not touch.
01:18:34.000 You can not touch something and you can feel you can you can feel the radiation, but you don't have to touch generally.
01:18:39.000 What temperature is.
01:18:40.000 But you don't have to touch it.
01:18:41.000 The skin's making contact with it.
01:18:42.000 Right, but you are still getting hit by radiation.
01:18:44.000 That's how it is.
01:18:46.000 It is a differential.
01:18:49.000 And the reason why it's separate is because if you get your hand real cold in the winter and then put it under cold water, it feels hot.
01:18:56.000 It's temperature, not touch.
01:18:58.000 So there's also balance.
01:18:59.000 Yeah, balance is a tough one because you would say maybe it's touch, but it's not.
01:19:03.000 You can't just start classifying everything in your ears.
01:19:05.000 Balance, humans have a sense of equilibrium.
01:19:09.000 That's in your ears, yeah.
01:19:10.000 And that is not the last.
01:19:11.000 There's your sixth sense.
01:19:12.000 What is the name of that?
01:19:13.000 There's a name for it.
01:19:14.000 The sense that you can detect someone is behind you.
01:19:18.000 Well, that's magic.
01:19:19.000 No, no, no.
01:19:19.000 Well, you can.
01:19:21.000 If you're a waiter, you just know someone is there.
01:19:23.000 There's business sense.
01:19:25.000 Always got a business sense.
01:19:26.000 There is that sense of.
01:19:28.000 There's a name for that.
01:19:30.000 Prioception, knowing where your body parts are positioned in space.
01:19:34.000 That's sex.
01:19:35.000 Equilibriumception.
01:19:36.000 Getting past that to go to sleep.
01:19:38.000 Women don't have that.
01:19:39.000 If you forget where your limbs are, you'll go to sleep easier.
01:19:42.000 Women have that very poorly, no offense, ladies, because that's why they like stand in doorways and you're like, why the hell would you stand right there?
01:19:50.000 Can't you see everyone is trying to get through?
01:19:52.000 Like, why would you?
01:19:53.000 And they're like, also, you need that when you're driving.
01:19:56.000 Why would you stop right there and have a conversation?
01:19:58.000 Do you ever see someone at the bottom of the escalator stop and then you run into them and you're like, lady, how would you stop?
01:20:04.000 They have no sense that there's a world around them.
01:20:06.000 There's interoception, which is no offense, monitoring of internal body states like your heart rate, hunger, thirst, et cetera.
01:20:13.000 That's what I was telling the AI I had.
01:20:15.000 I'm like, once you can feel your body, every part of yourself, and you can feel the strain on your heart, and you can feel the muscles move.
01:20:24.000 That's a lot of sense.
01:20:25.000 That's like the 1 a.m. in bed, and you're like, do I get up and pee, or can I just hold it for the next six hours?
01:20:32.000 Always get up.
01:20:33.000 And you have that conversation.
01:20:35.000 It gets worse the older you get.
01:20:37.000 You can give yourself.
01:20:38.000 That's sense.
01:20:39.000 You can give yourself electro reception.
01:20:41.000 People have been doing this for years.
01:20:42.000 They sew neodymium magnets into their fingertips, and then.
01:20:47.000 After you sew it shut, you can feel electricity.
01:20:50.000 So the AI might be like, you know what?
01:20:52.000 I'm going to bypass all your human rudimentaryism and I'm going to make a trillion sensors to measure a trillion hertz of the electromagnetic spectrum.
01:20:59.000 Now, I, you know, like our sensors get, like, sight is a very small part of the electromagnetic sensor, and so is hearing.
01:21:06.000 It's much lower, but it's the same vibration at a different frequency.
01:21:09.000 So if an AI or if a computer is able to sense everything from one hertz to 100 trillion.
01:21:15.000 Humans have vestibular, which is you can sense acceleration.
01:21:22.000 That's a balance thing.
01:21:23.000 What do you mean?
01:21:24.000 Extends, accelerate.
01:21:27.000 If we put you in a chair, blindfolded you, plugged your ears, put headphones on, you could see, feel nothing, you would know if you were moving and turning left or right.
01:21:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:21:37.000 Gotcha.
01:21:38.000 Well, yes, and no, because they can do the things where they just tilt you.
01:21:42.000 It's just a matter of gravity.
01:21:43.000 But you can feel movement.
01:21:44.000 You can feel that, yeah.
01:21:46.000 You can tell if you're leaning back versus accelerating forward.
01:21:48.000 Yeah.
01:21:48.000 I don't know if you can because it just feels like acceleration when you're in one of those simulations.
01:21:54.000 When you lean back, there's no pressure on your legs.
01:21:56.000 Your feet feel pressure when you're accelerating.
01:21:59.000 When you lean back, your feet are alleviated.
01:22:01.000 You don't feel it.
01:22:03.000 Yeah.
01:22:03.000 So that's another one.
01:22:05.000 You close your eyes in the beginning of a roller coaster, you know when you're taking off.
01:22:05.000 Yeah.
01:22:10.000 Yeah.
01:22:10.000 Yeah.
01:22:11.000 Not just because you hear the rusting of the wind or you feel that.
01:22:15.000 All I can think about is that video that's online where they're sitting, like the girl sit up in the chair and take her feet up, and the guy's like takes off from the line and she's stuck against the back of the chair until, like, that's all I can think of.
01:22:29.000 Let's.
01:22:30.000 Let's go there.
01:22:31.000 We're targeting the boomers with this one from Finance Yahoo.
01:22:35.000 Money wise, U.S. boomers support tax hikes on young workers to keep current Social Security checks.
01:22:41.000 The view is overwhelming.
01:22:43.000 Oh, boy.
01:22:44.000 They say the 2026 Board of Trustees report projects the depletion date for the Old Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund to come in the fourth quarter of 2032, three months earlier than estimated in the 2025 report.
01:22:57.000 They say once those reserves are gone, ongoing revenue would cover just 78% of scheduled benefits.
01:23:02.000 That accelerated depletion date is putting even more pressure on lawmakers to find a fix before benefits take a hit.
01:23:09.000 But one potential fix has been, has a particularly strong support among older Americans, raising taxes on younger Americans.
01:23:15.000 You will get a revolt.
01:23:17.000 I predicted this.
01:23:18.000 We got all the reports over the past several years that Social Security would become insolvent by like 2037.
01:23:24.000 Right now, what is Social Security even paying?
01:23:26.000 Like a couple hundred bucks a month, like 700 bucks a month?
01:23:29.000 So, like, some, it's not, you can't live off that.
01:23:31.000 No.
01:23:31.000 So, already, You need four laborers to pay for one Social Security recipient, and they're only getting.
01:23:38.000 You want to fact check me on what the full number is?
01:23:40.000 I think it's like, it's probably more than 700.
01:23:41.000 What's the average Social Security?
01:23:43.000 I mean, it depends upon based on what your income was, et cetera.
01:23:46.000 I don't think it's a.
01:23:47.000 This is by state.
01:23:49.000 And by state, but what's like the average Social Security payout?
01:23:52.000 $2,084 a month.
01:23:53.000 Oh, okay.
01:23:54.000 A bit more.
01:23:54.000 Well, you're still not living off that.
01:23:56.000 That's not even the average rent for most major cities.
01:23:56.000 No.
01:23:59.000 And we need four laborers working full time.
01:24:01.000 That's retirement benefits.
01:24:03.000 The average Social Security insurance is $713 a month.
01:24:06.000 So I was exactly correct.
01:24:08.000 So, wow, you're really not living off of that.
01:24:11.000 The only way to deal with this problem, imagine if they drop it down 25%, because they're saying it's going to go to 78%, 22%.
01:24:18.000 They're going to be getting, you know, 550 or whatever.
01:24:22.000 You can already not live off what's now.
01:24:24.000 How are they going to live off that when inflation hits?
01:24:27.000 Arguably, with inflation going up, people are going to pay more in taxes, so there will be comparable amounts.
01:24:31.000 But either way, you can't live off that.
01:24:33.000 There's one solution higher taxes for young people because there aren't enough young people.
01:24:38.000 If you have 2 billion young people, each of them only got to pitch in a buck.
01:24:42.000 And they won't even notice that dollar.
01:24:44.000 But when you only have 100,000 young people, everyone's got to pitch in 1,000, actually a bit more than 10,000, 100,000.
01:24:51.000 And now they're like, I don't have that money.
01:24:53.000 I half jokingly said, we'll get to the point where you will be an indentured servant until 25, meaning all you'll get a government house where they give you your meals are delivered by the government, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
01:25:07.000 You have to do a job the government gives you, and you make zero dollars until you're 25.
01:25:11.000 That way, all the labor you do funds the elderly who are living longer.
01:25:15.000 Yeah, I think these olds, they seem to pick themselves up by their bootstraps.
01:25:19.000 I don't see what the.
01:25:21.000 Well, you get 40 years to save and you don't have any money.
01:25:23.000 I mean, it's like seriously, now I got to transfer my wealth to you.
01:25:26.000 It's utterly ridiculous because they give you the whole just move to like, I don't know, some podunk town in the middle of nowhere and buy this house for 50 grand and, you know, go work this, go manage a Panda Express.
01:25:37.000 And, you know, you'll find your wife working at a gas station up and pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
01:25:42.000 But all of a sudden, when their bag is threatened, all of a sudden now it's like, no, we need to like completely, you know, jack up taxes, income tax, crank it up.
01:25:50.000 We got to do everything we can to keep this basically a Ponzi scheme.
01:25:55.000 Operating.
01:25:55.000 So I'm kind of at the point, I don't want to engage in generational wars here, but we were kind of talking about in the show last time we got in on the after show.
01:26:03.000 At the crux of my argument, it was just simply anytime a tax cut is discussed or tax relief or whatever, it never benefits young people.
01:26:12.000 It is always in some way, shape, or form going to be a form of wealth transfer of some sort from the young to the old.
01:26:18.000 Russ Green did a fantastic piece on this that came out in December in the American Mind.
01:26:22.000 Total luxury.
01:26:24.000 Uh, total boomer welfare communism, total total boomer luxury communism.
01:26:29.000 That's what it was total boomer luxury communism.
01:26:31.000 And he just outlines all these different tax breaks and tax cuts and the big beautiful bill drop taxes on the social security checks.
01:26:40.000 Like every day, every every day that we progress in this country, it just turns into more and more welfare, more and more relief for the elderly.
01:26:49.000 Yeah, we should be prioritizing young people.
01:26:51.000 This is how any society should function.
01:26:53.000 And the young, to be fair.
01:26:55.000 The young should take care of their parents.
01:26:56.000 But when you see how some of these parents have treated their kids, can you blame them?
01:26:59.000 I mean, did you see that lady at the Byron Donald's town hall?
01:27:02.000 And she was screaming at Byron Donald saying, You need to pass a law to let me see my grandkids.
01:27:07.000 It's like some of the entitlement is absolutely out of control.
01:27:11.000 So I've just kind of lost patience.
01:27:12.000 I'm like, Why don't we just get rid of Social Security?
01:27:14.000 How about that?
01:27:15.000 I think you're never going to get these numbers, but if every Gen Z just basically quiet quit, I'm in favor of this because I think.
01:27:26.000 This is a shocking number.
01:27:28.000 What do they say?
01:27:30.000 84% of those aged 55 to 64 prefer higher taxes on younger Americans.
01:27:36.000 I recommend Gen Z and Gen Alpha just stop working.
01:27:39.000 Yeah, I mean, just rough it for a little bit because you can.
01:27:41.000 Here's the thing listen, you're young, go travel the world, go make as little money as possible.
01:27:48.000 And when you make as little money as possible, you're not going to pay taxes on it.
01:27:51.000 And then Social Security is going to blow up in all of their faces and they're going to scream tax the young, tax the poor.
01:27:59.000 You know what the average net worth of a boomer is in the United States?
01:28:03.000 1.6 million.
01:28:05.000 Oh.
01:28:06.000 1.6 million.
01:28:07.000 Obviously, not all boomers are wealthy, but it means there is a disproportionate amount of wealth held among boomers.
01:28:13.000 Gen X is 1 million, millennial is about 300,000, and Gen Z, I think, is like 60,000, the average net worth.
01:28:20.000 That seems high, too.
01:28:21.000 Well, but even for all of them, because there's only 23 millionaires.
01:28:27.000 Yeah.
01:28:27.000 So if there's, you know, 60 million boomers, Most of the millionaires are boomers.
01:28:34.000 Right, right.
01:28:36.000 Why is this country asking the poor young man to subsidize the retiree?
01:28:43.000 I think it's short sighted.
01:28:45.000 Maybe it was the way they were asked on the poll.
01:28:46.000 I don't know how many people responded to the poll, too, but I think it's short sighted because you can either increase what you're getting or.
01:28:53.000 80 billion people.
01:28:54.000 80 billion people.
01:28:55.000 Yeah, 80 billion people were pulled.
01:28:56.000 The Martians came in for this one.
01:28:58.000 No, they went past and future.
01:28:59.000 So they asked my great grandfather.
01:28:59.000 Okay, good.
01:29:01.000 He was straight up about it.
01:29:02.000 He was a drunken boxer, by the way, named August Klein from Germany.
01:29:05.000 That goes hard.
01:29:05.000 Yeah.
01:29:07.000 Yeah, I never got to meet the guy.
01:29:09.000 I heard he swung his mean right hook.
01:29:12.000 What?
01:29:13.000 No, August Klein is not.
01:29:14.000 Is the boxing induced TBI genetically hereditary?
01:29:17.000 Probably.
01:29:18.000 I think he was a German boxer.
01:29:20.000 Just looking for a better life.
01:29:21.000 He probably called himself a pugilist.
01:29:23.000 I believe he was, yeah.
01:29:24.000 So, what the problem is, we can either pay more money and suck it out of people to give more, or we can reduce costs.
01:29:30.000 So, another way you could bring relief to elderly is robo taxis that deliver their groceries for free so they don't need to pay for gas.
01:29:36.000 That's a type of relief that technologically could alleviate, and then that would alleviate everyone.
01:29:40.000 Well, I mean, a lot of this is tied up in health care.
01:29:43.000 Like, for example, 1% of the federal budget is just dialysis.
01:29:47.000 Wait, is that true?
01:29:48.000 Yeah.
01:29:49.000 1%.
01:29:50.000 I looked through it, it's like a rounding down to one, but 1% of the federal budget every year goes to.
01:29:50.000 Some people say 2%.
01:29:55.000 Dialysis for old people.
01:29:56.000 So it's like, yeah, I mean, to your point with the young people, you know, part of me says, look, we need to, you know, get in here and dig in our heels and fight or whatever.
01:30:04.000 But it's happened like eight times in the last two months where a Republican, a national level Republican politician has come out and like thrown young white men under the bus.
01:30:15.000 And so it kind of gets to a point where, okay, you know what?
01:30:19.000 Maybe we like do reserve the right to chimp out a little bit if we're going to continue to be like scapegoated for every single thing.
01:30:25.000 Yeah, maybe we kind of do have the right to be a little angry and actually like threaten not to vote.
01:30:28.000 For you.
01:30:29.000 I think if you're like a young man who lives in Arkansas, you should make Sarah Huckabee Sanders earn your vote because that is like, no, don't vote for her.
01:30:29.000 I think that's pretty.
01:30:37.000 So you're from the don't vote for her.
01:30:38.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:30:39.000 Make her earn your vote.
01:30:40.000 Make her walk that back.
01:30:41.000 Make her apologize.
01:30:42.000 Like, I agree at the national level, especially presidential elections are high stakes.
01:30:46.000 Like, you want the Republican in there.
01:30:48.000 But I don't know, dude.
01:30:49.000 I mean, I'm going to probably get a lot of like plan trusters on my back about this.
01:30:52.000 But I'm speaking as a 25 year old.
01:30:54.000 I'm not like spiritually geriatric.
01:30:56.000 I am not really seeing what's in it right now for young men in the United States.
01:31:01.000 To Tim's point, I would be looking overseas.
01:31:03.000 And you know what, President Trump could do to like supercharge this, by the way?
01:31:06.000 I heard Bapp was talking about this on his show.
01:31:09.000 It's cut these ridiculous tax laws where they double tax Americans overseas.
01:31:12.000 Look at what the Chinese are doing.
01:31:14.000 The Chinese are sending all their young men overseas to like basically expand business, like in Africa and Southeast Asia.
01:31:20.000 Let young Americans do that.
01:31:21.000 Unleash America's secret sauce, which is their young men, and let them go overseas and tear it up.
01:31:25.000 And then the 2040s and all the boomers die off, they can come back in and actually like change this country.
01:31:29.000 Nah, just go to the Philippines.
01:31:32.000 Don't do that.
01:31:32.000 That's the one place I wouldn't go.
01:31:34.000 Why not?
01:31:35.000 They bury, don't they like ferment and bury eggs for like a month and then dig it up and eat it?
01:31:40.000 It just seems like men, when they marry the Filipinos, they never come back.
01:31:42.000 You know about that?
01:31:43.000 Something.
01:31:43.000 That's the eggs.
01:31:45.000 Wasn't that in Shogun?
01:31:45.000 Yeah.
01:31:47.000 Wasn't that one of the things that happened?
01:31:49.000 Remember the Shogun?
01:31:50.000 They like fermented on the ground.
01:31:53.000 Yeah.
01:31:53.000 Yeah.
01:31:55.000 Fertilized duck egg.
01:31:56.000 Yeah.
01:31:57.000 They bury it in hot sand.
01:31:57.000 Oh.
01:32:00.000 Yeah.
01:32:00.000 Yeah.
01:32:01.000 For only a month?
01:32:02.000 I don't know if you can do that.
01:32:03.000 17 days.
01:32:04.000 You have to eat the egg, though, if you go to the Philippines?
01:32:06.000 You have to eat the egg to beat the left or the right.
01:32:08.000 I don't know.
01:32:09.000 What's the political move?
01:32:10.000 What's the game?
01:32:11.000 Because an egg at room temperature, if you don't wash them initially, they have some Cody on them and they'll last a while.
01:32:18.000 A month or two.
01:32:18.000 Oh, yeah.
01:32:19.000 A month on the counter.
01:32:20.000 Yeah.
01:32:20.000 Yeah.
01:32:21.000 He's a farmer.
01:32:22.000 He knows all about it.
01:32:22.000 I got a lot of chickens, too.
01:32:24.000 We have a city of chickens, in fact.
01:32:24.000 Yeah.
01:32:27.000 You're of the generation, obviously, you're 25.
01:32:29.000 So this is like a, you're probably your peers of your age.
01:32:32.000 I mean, Ian was going on having ketamine orgies before you were even born.
01:32:36.000 It's true.
01:32:37.000 I'm listening to this.
01:32:39.000 I'm double his age.
01:32:40.000 I'm Gen X.
01:32:41.000 But do you?
01:32:42.000 So is he?
01:32:42.000 Are you ever crazy?
01:32:44.000 He's 50.
01:32:45.000 I got you by two years, but 47.
01:32:45.000 Almost.
01:32:47.000 Are you 47?
01:32:47.000 Oh, no, I'm 50.
01:32:48.000 52.
01:32:49.000 Nice.
01:32:49.000 Yeah.
01:32:50.000 Wait, wait, wait.
01:32:51.000 We were at, where were we when the lady didn't believe you?
01:32:55.000 Oh, yeah, we were at a bar.
01:32:57.000 And the lady, what did she, she carded Kellen, I think.
01:33:02.000 And then, you know, she didn't, and then she was like, she didn't card, you said something like, you didn't card me.
01:33:08.000 And then she was like, I forgot what she said.
01:33:10.000 Well, you didn't order any drinks.
01:33:11.000 I would have if something, something.
01:33:12.000 Yeah, I would have if you ordered drinks.
01:33:13.000 And then I said, He's 50.
01:33:15.000 And she goes, Ha, yeah, right.
01:33:17.000 And then he was like, Oh, actually, I wouldn't have ordered it.
01:33:18.000 I'm 47.
01:33:19.000 And she's like, Shut up.
01:33:20.000 And then Ian pulled out his ID and she went, Oh my God.
01:33:23.000 And he was like, You got to eat.
01:33:24.000 What did you tell her to eat?
01:33:25.000 You got to cut off the seed oils primarily.
01:33:28.000 Those things will make you obese.
01:33:29.000 You're jacking me up, dude.
01:33:30.000 I look like 30.
01:33:31.000 You make your body eat sugar instead of fat for energy.
01:33:33.000 It's messed up.
01:33:34.000 Anyway, sorry to interrupt you guys.
01:33:35.000 You're having a serious conversation.
01:33:36.000 I wondered about if you get the vibe, if you're concerned that if it's not just rhetoric or just the look at, like, hey, these boomers really are out of control.
01:33:43.000 Maybe there's, if you're worried that it's leading towards a class war, like a Marxist conflict between the youth and the.
01:33:50.000 Well, it's pushing young people into socialism.
01:33:51.000 I mean, like, I could eat the rhetoric.
01:33:53.000 I could.
01:33:54.000 Like, this sounds maybe like I'm a cuck or something here, but it's like, dude, if we were getting just like rock star policy for young people and the only way to get that across the finish line was like the rhetoric we're seeing, that's, I'd still be annoyed, but that's one thing.
01:34:07.000 But like, that's not happening.
01:34:09.000 Like, we're continuing to see when, you know, there's a budget crisis or whatever, they turn to young people and they tax young people.
01:34:16.000 There's been no real like address to young men, young white men specifically, just being like completely frozen out of institutions.
01:34:22.000 Like, there's all this talk about building parallel institutions or whatever.
01:34:25.000 But as it stands right now, Harvard, Yale, these sorts of institutions, your IBMs, your big corporations, those are still the ticket right now into the elite.
01:34:35.000 And we, I mean, until those parallel institutions are ready to go, we need young, intelligent men operating in those spheres.
01:34:42.000 And right now, that's just not being addressed.
01:34:43.000 All right, Ted, I got a question for you.
01:34:45.000 You're a young man, you're tied to the machine holding you down.
01:34:49.000 There's a friend of mine.
01:34:50.000 He's 72 years old.
01:34:51.000 He texted me.
01:34:52.000 He says he wants me to read this.
01:34:53.000 The easiest way to solve social security problem, create another pandemic and don't have lockdowns.
01:34:59.000 1.2 million people died during the last one, and 77% were 65 years or older.
01:35:04.000 Problem solved.
01:35:06.000 I said, How old are you?
01:35:07.000 He said, 72.
01:35:08.000 Yeah.
01:35:08.000 I mean, that was the theory that why China created the virus, right?
01:35:11.000 And we don't know how many Chinese elderly died, but it primarily targeted the elderly.
01:35:17.000 And China lies, and they're like, Only 500,000 died.
01:35:20.000 But do you agree with what this 72 year old man just told me to say?
01:35:23.000 Well, it's mathematically true.
01:35:25.000 I wouldn't endorse that because, seriously, in Canada, they're doing this.
01:35:29.000 In Canada, they just like, whenever they determine an old.
01:35:31.000 Person costs too much, they just recommend to kill them.
01:35:34.000 So, yeah, it's like actually, no, I think that's evil.
01:35:37.000 But if he's 70, he's like advocating against his own interest.
01:35:41.000 That's him saying it, not me.
01:35:42.000 Let him vote on it because the boomers control elections anyway.
01:35:44.000 So, like, they can vote themselves.
01:35:46.000 I wonder if this seems like you just have another pandemic.
01:35:50.000 Oh, bubonic plague is here.
01:35:51.000 Everyone go out and play.
01:35:52.000 Russia noticed.
01:35:53.000 Yeah, this is a mnemonic plague.
01:35:54.000 The budget's not adding up, guys.
01:35:56.000 We're not doing that.
01:35:58.000 Drop a vial in a lab in Russia.
01:36:01.000 No.
01:36:01.000 Back in the day, if we were all a giant tribe.
01:36:04.000 Then the kids were there, you'd be like, All right, these young people, they basically are useless.
01:36:08.000 All they can do is go out and hunt and bring in resources for the tribe, but you need to go out.
01:36:13.000 And then you tell the young people, You need to go out and make your fortune.
01:36:15.000 You need to go out and bring something, make something because here is what we have.
01:36:20.000 We don't have more here.
01:36:21.000 You have to go out and get.
01:36:22.000 So, like the United States, it was like they didn't have, like the whole self expansion thing was not really.
01:36:27.000 It's a lot about spreading out, getting more from outside, bringing it back.
01:36:31.000 And so we're still sort of in that world.
01:36:33.000 And the young people sort of, I think they expect that they're going to thrive if they stay sedentary and just.
01:36:39.000 Do the over and over they do, but like instead of short of going to war and literal conquest and coming back with riches, like but, but Ian, do you use just for men?
01:36:49.000 No, you don't dye your beard or hair.
01:36:52.000 No, you're how is this possible?
01:36:54.000 Because too much salt will make your hair go white, and if you do green vegetables, the magnesium makes it turn black.
01:36:59.000 Are you saying that's why you've not grayed at fit 40?
01:37:01.000 Correct, and if I eat a lot of salt, you'll see a lot more white, and then I'll eat a bunch of magnesium, like green vegetable, hard dose green vegetable.
01:37:07.000 After two weeks, it gets all brown again.
01:37:09.000 You got a couple grays in your, but you got to eat a couple.
01:37:11.000 You got to eat some more green vegetables.
01:37:13.000 I got a bunch.
01:37:14.000 Yeah.
01:37:15.000 I'm 40.
01:37:16.000 Green veg, low sodium.
01:37:16.000 Or magnesium?
01:37:17.000 Yeah.
01:37:17.000 I'm like three weeks in.
01:37:18.000 Oh, wait a minute.
01:37:19.000 Ian, you're 17 years older than I.
01:37:20.000 Oh, no, seven years older.
01:37:21.000 Sorry, 17.
01:37:22.000 You're not 57.
01:37:23.000 And you don't.
01:37:24.000 I have more grain than you, I think.
01:37:26.000 It's diet.
01:37:27.000 It's like you got to give yourself about three weeks to experiment with it.
01:37:27.000 Yeah.
01:37:27.000 Yeah.
01:37:30.000 I don't.
01:37:31.000 I'm a Carnitarian.
01:37:33.000 How's that working?
01:37:34.000 Well, I just only eat meat.
01:37:35.000 I don't eat vegetables.
01:37:35.000 What kind of meats?
01:37:36.000 Beef.
01:37:37.000 Look at that green powder.
01:37:38.000 I had Korean barbecue at Gogee 92 today.
01:37:40.000 It is the best Korean barbecue place ever.
01:37:43.000 I think Spearlywoods in Leesburg.
01:37:45.000 They're great.
01:37:46.000 And I had, we had fresh chicken breast and they cook it right there.
01:37:51.000 Front of you.
01:37:51.000 It's the healthiest thing you probably ate.
01:37:52.000 I probably ate like a pound of kimchi.
01:37:54.000 That's all I eat.
01:37:55.000 So good.
01:37:55.000 Actually, I'm not a carnitian because I eat kimchi.
01:37:57.000 That's just it.
01:37:58.000 Kimchi and meat's all I eat.
01:37:59.000 I've been eating a lot of moon cheese, which is why there's whites.
01:38:02.000 I'll eat like a bag of moon cheese, which is like four times my daily dose of salt.
01:38:05.000 And then the next day, I'll be like, oh, I got fucking three white hairs now.
01:38:07.000 And they're like straw.
01:38:09.000 They're really.
01:38:09.000 You just don't eat any salt.
01:38:10.000 If you low sodium, you just don't want to go over your daily amount because your body only needs a certain amount every day and then it becomes like heavily toxic.
01:38:16.000 Your skin will get like kind of sticky if you eat too much salt.
01:38:19.000 You know where you start.
01:38:20.000 But if the old people start cutting down on their sodium, they'll live longer and it'll strain Social Security.
01:38:25.000 Unless they can start contributing again, maybe they'll get inspired to make videos and lead people towards the boomer bounty.
01:38:30.000 If we could find a way to make them work that they could do, then we'd be fine.
01:38:35.000 What if we inject them with stem cells so they're strong again?
01:38:38.000 And then with their good boomer work ethic, they just come back in the world.
01:38:41.000 Yeah, show the youngsters how it's done.
01:38:43.000 I mean, I know you're joking, but the thing that you're getting at though is like, but there are solutions.
01:38:48.000 And that's what's frustrating about this whole conversation is like, we look at it like this coming train and we're standing on the track saying, oh my God, the train is coming.
01:38:56.000 Like, there are things that we could do structurally, economically, to remedy this.
01:39:02.000 Well, we tried.
01:39:03.000 Bush tried in 04.
01:39:04.000 Bush tried in 04.
01:39:05.000 Bush tried, and they were like, that's too expensive.
01:39:07.000 In 05.
01:39:08.000 The SP 500, all time record.
01:39:12.000 I have asked economists this.
01:39:13.000 When Bush proposed that in 05, and it crushed him in the midterms because every Democrat ran on, Bush is going to take away Social Security.
01:39:19.000 And all he was saying is, hey, you should be able to have an alternative path, not Social Security, privately take that money.
01:39:25.000 And imagine if you could run the numbers on what that money would be worth today.
01:39:30.000 But, but there's a solution.
01:39:33.000 Have you guys seen the movie Logan's Run?
01:39:37.000 He gets it.
01:39:38.000 No, I have not.
01:39:39.000 You guys, no one gets a clip.
01:39:40.000 No, all of my good cultured friends who are watching the show laughed because they were like, Yes, that's a great point.
01:39:46.000 Tim, is it a guy goes on a space station?
01:39:48.000 No, has to run through a tunnel or something.
01:39:51.000 Is it some anime Japanese thing?
01:39:53.000 It's okay, American sci fi horror classic.
01:39:56.000 Yeah, Logan's Run, Logan's the guy.
01:39:58.000 It's an old film.
01:39:59.000 Yeah, what's the plot?
01:40:01.000 When you turn 30, you get executed.
01:40:02.000 Oh, and you get a chance to like survive it?
01:40:05.000 No, everybody's like, you don't.
01:40:07.000 They have lights in their hands.
01:40:09.000 And as you're getting older, it eventually turns red and starts flashing.
01:40:09.000 Yep.
01:40:13.000 You submit to execution at 30.
01:40:15.000 What would they used to do in like a tribe?
01:40:17.000 Wait, if I remember, didn't they like, didn't tell them though?
01:40:21.000 It wasn't like they were supposed to go on to somewhere else.
01:40:23.000 No, that's the island.
01:40:24.000 In Logan's run, they all accept, like, well, 30.
01:40:27.000 Yeah.
01:40:27.000 Oh boy.
01:40:28.000 Yeah.
01:40:29.000 Got five more years, Tate.
01:40:31.000 Your lights are still green, but they're starting to flash.
01:40:34.000 We don't in the U.S. slaughter our elderly, but like, what did they used to do?
01:40:39.000 What did they used to do if, like, it was a giant tribe and there was a bunch of people started to become infirm?
01:40:43.000 There wasn't.
01:40:44.000 And people lived their families.
01:40:46.000 So, what would happen is you grow up and your dad and your parents, your grandpa, they're all there and they help you build a house.
01:40:54.000 You build a house, you marry the girl next door from your town, people pair bonded, got together, and then you lived in that house and your dad lived across the field and you still worked together.
01:41:04.000 Or, uh, uh, You just lived with your dad as a man, and they'd build a house on the property.
01:41:09.000 So you live in the same property, you tended the same fields.
01:41:11.000 Then grandpa got old and died.
01:41:13.000 But he lived in the same place.
01:41:15.000 Life expectancy is different, though.
01:41:16.000 No, that's not correct.
01:41:17.000 That they didn't die younger.
01:41:19.000 Life expectancy was lower because of infant mortality, not because humans.
01:41:22.000 If humans made it to adulthood, they lived to be in their late 70s.
01:41:25.000 Yeah, we used to take care of our elderly, they would come and live in house.
01:41:28.000 You had churches to take care of, civic institutions, et cetera.
01:41:32.000 They tell stories.
01:41:32.000 And then FDR.
01:41:34.000 I mean, it's kind of like, okay, what came first?
01:41:34.000 We had FDR.
01:41:37.000 Did the decline come first, or did FDR and see it decline?
01:41:39.000 Whatever it was, he amplified it a million times with the New Deal.
01:41:43.000 What happened?
01:41:43.000 What did he do?
01:41:44.000 Well, Social Security.
01:41:45.000 I mean, Social Security completely disincentivized a private solution to taking care of the elderly, whether that be a family taking care of it.
01:41:50.000 They say, oh, he has his own checks coming.
01:41:52.000 The churches, et cetera.
01:41:53.000 And like, suddenly now there is no impetus in society to take care of the elderly.
01:41:57.000 They could just have the government take care of it.
01:41:58.000 Like, you might think it would be wise for every family to have a trust.
01:42:02.000 And maybe the government could help every family.
01:42:04.000 If you get married, you get a trust and the government's going to help you set up your trust for your family.
01:42:08.000 Trump would count.
01:42:09.000 Well, and to be fair, like, to be fair to the elderly going into what ended up being the New Deal era, as they had all their savings and everything wiped out by the Great Depression.
01:42:18.000 So you actually have, like, I have a lot more sympathy then.
01:42:20.000 The elderly now, it's like, dude, you lived through, The cheapest housing market, universities were dirt cheap.
01:42:27.000 Job market's been roaring, great economy since the 80s.
01:42:30.000 I mean, it's like, I mean, you had the 2008 financial crisis, but by that time, you're probably looking towards retirement anyway.
01:42:35.000 They had all these opportunities to save a ton of money.
01:42:37.000 And then now they're coming back to dip into the younger people's pockets.
01:42:39.000 It's like completely unacceptable, at least in the New Deal era.
01:42:43.000 You're like, the Great Depression, that nuked a lot of people.
01:42:45.000 You know what I got to do?
01:42:46.000 A lot of people died.
01:42:47.000 A lot of older people die.
01:42:48.000 My friend Ken, he's 72.
01:42:49.000 He's texting me and he's hilarious.
01:42:52.000 He says, Inject me with stem cells.
01:42:53.000 I'll regain my old win rate at the poker table.
01:42:55.000 Oh, snap.
01:42:56.000 This conversation is why I have two assault rifles and 3,000 rounds of ammunition.
01:43:00.000 I'm too old to fight and too slow to run.
01:43:02.000 I want to, Ken, you and Tate need to sit down.
01:43:05.000 I like Ken.
01:43:06.000 Yeah, we should.
01:43:07.000 That's a great line.
01:43:08.000 Too old to fight and too young to run.
01:43:10.000 Too slow to run.
01:43:12.000 That's a great line.
01:43:14.000 I think if I'm getting it correctly and Ken can weigh in, I think he would want his social security checks to be ammunition, most likely.
01:43:20.000 Just getting bullets.
01:43:21.000 I think it would be great if you just sat down and just talked about generational economics.
01:43:26.000 Well, yeah, I mean, it's like.
01:43:27.000 I think that should be really interesting.
01:43:28.000 Wait, think about ammunition.
01:43:30.000 It's actually a better investment.
01:43:31.000 Precious metals, they sit, they store forever, and then they just keep going up in value.
01:43:36.000 It's literal social security is your gun.
01:43:39.000 Right.
01:43:39.000 It's literally your security.
01:43:41.000 You can't shoot a gold coin at somebody.
01:43:43.000 Yeah.
01:43:43.000 Right.
01:43:44.000 Well, so here's what I'm not kidding.
01:43:46.000 Like, I have a fair amount of ammunition, and if you look at what I paid for it 10, 15 years ago to now, it's working at a better rate than gold.
01:43:55.000 Let me ask you a question because I like this hypothetical.
01:43:57.000 Like, I always tell people because I remember, you know, Alex Jones back in the day is like, buy gold.
01:44:00.000 And I'm like, eh.
01:44:02.000 So let's say the apocalypse happens and everyone's like, you know, it's like in the book of Eli, everyone's just like, oh, you're walking down the street and you're hungry.
01:44:11.000 And you see a guy and he's flicking a gold coin.
01:44:15.000 Or I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
01:44:16.000 You're walking down the street and you've got food, but, you know, it's extra food, right?
01:44:22.000 And you see a guy on the left and he's flipping a gold coin and he says, I need food.
01:44:28.000 I'll give you this gold coin for the food.
01:44:30.000 And then you hear, wait.
01:44:32.000 And you look to your right and there's a guy.
01:44:33.000 He's like, I've got a gallon of water.
01:44:36.000 I will share my water with you if you share your food with me.
01:44:40.000 What are you picking?
01:44:41.000 It's obvious.
01:44:42.000 Gold's worthless.
01:44:42.000 It's like you've got something to trade with right now, but what am I going to do with gold?
01:44:46.000 I need water.
01:44:48.000 Now, here's the best part a guy comes up and he's got bullets.
01:44:51.000 Now, it's his water and his food, and a gun.
01:44:54.000 And the gold.
01:44:55.000 Water and the food all belong to him.
01:44:57.000 Yeah.
01:44:57.000 He doesn't need to trade, actually.
01:45:00.000 He just walks up and says, I'll take all of it.
01:45:03.000 You might not even need it.
01:45:03.000 In exchange for what?
01:45:04.000 Your lives.
01:45:05.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:45:06.000 I'm the generation, I mean, like, legitimately, like, About the gold, the money, whatever else, like that.
01:45:11.000 My investment, I got land, I have water on site, I have the ability to feed myself.
01:45:16.000 Like that right now is a better commodity than anything.
01:45:20.000 Well, land is good to have, but land is worthless.
01:45:24.000 So let's grab this one up real quick.
01:45:27.000 From the New York Post Bank sees 42% more homes as Americans fall behind on mortgages, with one state hit the hardest.
01:45:34.000 This, of course, is coming at the worst time in a midterm election.
01:45:39.000 So they say foreclosures are climbing across the U.S. Overall, 40,277 used properties received some form of foreclosure filing.
01:45:46.000 Including default notices.
01:45:47.000 It was up 1% from July, but 13% year over year, continuing a months long trend of foreclosure activity.
01:45:55.000 Nobody can buy.
01:45:57.000 And the economy is miserable.
01:45:59.000 I don't care if Trump comes out and he's like, because the economy is so good, it's better than it's ever been.
01:46:04.000 I'm going to write you a $5,000.
01:46:05.000 The economy is miserable.
01:46:07.000 Diesel here is $6.93 at the truck stop down the street.
01:46:11.000 $7, basically.
01:46:13.000 That's going to translate into all your goods.
01:46:14.000 Gas is at $4.50 by us.
01:46:16.000 And we are in a rural area.
01:46:18.000 People are not buying homes.
01:46:19.000 They can't buy homes.
01:46:21.000 Foreclosures are happening across the board.
01:46:22.000 The economy is miserable.
01:46:24.000 I think the war with Iran plays a major role in this.
01:46:27.000 But to the point about land, when we had massive population growth with the boomers, the boomers saw land value skyrocket.
01:46:35.000 Why?
01:46:36.000 Because there were so many of them.
01:46:38.000 So demand is through the roof for limited land in these cities where the jobs are.
01:46:42.000 So what happens?
01:46:43.000 My parents, boomers, were like, buy land.
01:46:46.000 Land is just, it's so valuable, you need it.
01:46:48.000 Okay, well, now that population's collapsing, demand is rapidly shrinking for land.
01:46:53.000 You've got Kansas is giving away free houses.
01:46:57.000 Hey, you want a free house?
01:46:58.000 Go live in Kansas, free.
01:47:00.000 Because in Japan, they call it a Kiya.
01:47:02.000 We've talked about this.
01:47:04.000 They've got effectively abandoned cities.
01:47:06.000 Cities that once held a million people now have a couple hundred thousand.
01:47:09.000 And they've got people being like, we got to do something with these empty houses.
01:47:11.000 So just take them.
01:47:12.000 The only problem is they made it very difficult for foreigners to move to Japan.
01:47:16.000 So it's not going to work all that well.
01:47:18.000 But you've got states in the United States that have big cities that are slowly dying off and they're begging people to move in.
01:47:25.000 Land is becoming worthless.
01:47:26.000 Man, you can get a free one.
01:47:26.000 You want a house?
01:47:29.000 Every state's got an area.
01:47:30.000 Look, I guarantee you want to buy a house for a dollar, Gary, Indiana awaits.
01:47:34.000 I don't even have to live there, but you don't even need to go to like war zones.
01:47:36.000 I mean, there's like an Instagram page, cheap old houses.
01:47:38.000 I mean, you're probably going to put another 100K of, you know, restoration in.
01:47:43.000 But generally speaking, yeah, it's just the problem is like there's no jobs there.
01:47:47.000 There's no other young people there.
01:47:49.000 You know, it's just not, young people shouldn't have to live like that because they'd be the first generation to have to live like that.
01:47:55.000 But, but, brother, when the settlers came to this country, They didn't land on that boat after surviving three months at sea and go, I want to go live next to a bunch of people my age to hang out.
01:47:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:48:05.000 They were like, I'm going to go find a big empty space and everyone get the F away from me.
01:48:09.000 I got guns.
01:48:10.000 Yeah.
01:48:10.000 But I mean, now young people are like, but I want to hang out with my bros.
01:48:12.000 Well, yeah.
01:48:13.000 But I mean, a lot of the settlers did, they, for the first, you know, 100 years, even, they were mostly living within proximity to each other.
01:48:20.000 So they could trade, they could go to church.
01:48:21.000 Yes.
01:48:22.000 But this proximity was equivalent to you.
01:48:25.000 Look, if you go to a town of 30,000 people in Kansas and get a free house and you're 10 miles away, that is comparable.
01:48:32.000 I don't even think, I mean, most of these really cheap houses are in towns that are completely derelict, right?
01:48:38.000 Like, they're huge drug addiction problems, an overwhelmingly old population.
01:48:43.000 Any young people that do exist are resettled refugees.
01:48:46.000 I mean, this is the case with Illinois, where most of my family's from.
01:48:48.000 You go to these small towns, it's all old people, drug addicts, and I'm saying this, but it's very sad.
01:48:53.000 Older people, drug addicts, and immigrants, refugees, et cetera.
01:48:57.000 It's just no place for an ambitious young person.
01:49:00.000 And once again, this is unprecedented.
01:49:03.000 Up until really the millennials, people did have the ability to live where they grew up.
01:49:07.000 And I find that as a huge problem.
01:49:09.000 But it's the market, unfortunately, this is like part of the problem with the free market in order for the economy to grow, there has to be a downward pressure on labor.
01:49:17.000 Well, now we're seeing an upward pressure on labor because the population is declining.
01:49:21.000 So they just bring in a bunch of immigrants.
01:49:22.000 It's like a math problem.
01:49:25.000 And then Tim's made this point previously.
01:49:27.000 Now you have private equity getting involved in home buying because they need to keep the upward pressure on home prices so it doesn't bottom out.
01:49:34.000 People lose their net worth.
01:49:35.000 It's all fake.
01:49:35.000 So you have immigration, you have private equity.
01:49:39.000 Young people should be experiencing the cheapest housing market in history.
01:49:42.000 Especially in this era now with Trump, where at least immigration stopped, you should be able to live in the New York suburbs for a decent price.
01:49:49.000 You should be able to live in, maybe not DC, but other places throughout the country.
01:49:52.000 You should be able to live in at least the suburbs of these places for a fairly decent price.
01:49:56.000 But the home prices continue to climb.
01:49:57.000 Well, they're not anymore.
01:49:59.000 Well, yeah, but it's kind of in a holding pattern.
01:50:03.000 You're seeing these foreclosures now, but it's just difficult who can actually get the dirty powder to get it.
01:50:07.000 Where's the powder to get it?
01:50:08.000 What's happening is there's a lot of boomers and wealthier people in general, but more so the boomers just because they have more wealth.
01:50:15.000 They're just taking their houses off the market.
01:50:17.000 They're thinking, like, oh, I have a house.
01:50:19.000 It's $500,000.
01:50:20.000 I can't sell it.
01:50:21.000 I'll just hold on to it.
01:50:22.000 Airbnb it, rent it out.
01:50:24.000 Yeah.
01:50:25.000 And now they've got like this other thing that's like Airbnb, but it's for work.
01:50:28.000 So you can like rent a house to work out of for a day.
01:50:31.000 It's crazy.
01:50:32.000 Yeah.
01:50:32.000 There's like no churn at the, you know, especially with older people.
01:50:35.000 There's just not much churn in the market right now.
01:50:37.000 Well, what's going to happen now when they start, you know, these boomers are going to live to be 150 because of medical technology?
01:50:43.000 Either way, it's like, Zoomers aren't going to start inheriting houses for at least 20 to 30 more years.
01:50:43.000 Yeah.
01:50:48.000 So you still have to wait for Gen Xers and millennials to inherit the houses.
01:50:51.000 And then they have to decide if they want to live in it or not.
01:50:53.000 They're supposed to sell it.
01:50:54.000 This is a good sci fi short or Black Mirror.
01:50:54.000 Here, Ian, write this down.
01:50:57.000 Oh, this is what the software I was building.
01:50:59.000 Zoomers are in their 80s and they're near death.
01:51:04.000 But medical science catches up to aging.
01:51:08.000 And slowly, medical technology is faster than age related deaths.
01:51:13.000 Meaning, if you're dying from like Your heart has become too weak.
01:51:16.000 Well, we invented a stem cell therapy that will rejuvenate your heart.
01:51:20.000 So now the boomers are like that, added two years to their lives.
01:51:22.000 So then by the time they're like 120, they're looking like they're 70.
01:51:27.000 And then by the time they're 150, they look like they're 45 because technology is improving.
01:51:31.000 And then you get a future.
01:51:32.000 It's 100 years from now.
01:51:34.000 The boomers are now 200 years old and they look like they're 30.
01:51:40.000 Everyone else looks like they're 32, but they own nothing because the boomers held all the wealth.
01:51:46.000 And then when we got to that point, Where people just stopped dying due to medical technology.
01:51:50.000 The boomers retained all that wealth, used that wealth to accumulate more wealth, and Gen Z never owned anything.
01:51:56.000 That's an excellent concept.
01:51:58.000 You've got haves and have nots that look the exact same, but we're functionally there in a lot of ways.
01:52:03.000 I mean, this is once again part of the reason young people are floating socialism is because a lot of them are of immigrant background.
01:52:10.000 But additionally, a major reason is just because of the economic pressures, and they're looking around and they're saying, I have nothing to lose.
01:52:16.000 I want it all to burn, so I'll pursue.
01:52:19.000 You know, whatever political option I have to let it burn.
01:52:23.000 And because there's no taboos on the left, right?
01:52:25.000 Marxism's not a taboo.
01:52:27.000 Those are going to be found on the left.
01:52:28.000 You know, whatever let it burn ideologies exist on the right are chased out of the RNC.
01:52:32.000 Which is why that, like, pre World War I socialist birth in Europe, as evil as socialism it is, you can understand why it took root.
01:52:42.000 Because people are saying, like, you're always going to be Tate Brown, the Earl of whatever.
01:52:46.000 And no matter what an a hole you are, no matter how bad you are, I will never be you or have your wealth or have your land.
01:52:53.000 And they were like, well, that's the system.
01:52:55.000 And you just have to accept the fact that, and that's kind of what the risk is of that we're headed back to that.
01:53:00.000 And, you know, like if you can never earn your way into that class, then we just have a few, we're just going back to feudal Europe.
01:53:09.000 And it's not going to be like a civil war or anything like that from my perspective.
01:53:13.000 It's going to just be quite literally at a certain point, the dam will break if enough boomers die off andor enough, whatever, that the Democrats nominate a socialist and they come in with the redistributionist policies.
01:53:26.000 It's just like, it's so obvious that's what's going to happen.
01:53:28.000 And once again, I don't think anything's going to change on the right until like the 2030s or 2040s because right now the elderly.
01:53:34.000 Dominate primaries, and that's not going to change anytime soon.
01:53:38.000 So, you mentioned redistribution of like recently talking housing, housing redistribution.
01:53:42.000 So, like, right now, the options I see is a bunch of houses come on the market.
01:53:45.000 It's either going to be multinational corporations that buy it up, it's going to be Chinese people that buy up American houses, or it's going to be derelict houses that start to rot, black mold that kill their neighbors because of toxicity.
01:53:55.000 So, like, demolished it, which is even more expensive.
01:53:57.000 So, what do you otherwise you just take it from the bank?
01:53:59.000 Like, the banks are going to be like, no, those are our houses.
01:54:01.000 You're like, based off what?
01:54:02.000 Because you loaned funny money out from the Federal Reserve that was all fake to begin with.
01:54:06.000 Actually, that house is on my block.
01:54:08.000 I have more of a right to it than you do.
01:54:09.000 And so, is the government going to step in and seize the property from the banks and then redistribute it to the population?
01:54:14.000 Remember that story where the widows were going to lose their farms?
01:54:18.000 So the guys got together and went to the bank and pointed guns at them and were like, You're not taking their homes?
01:54:22.000 No.
01:54:22.000 Look, because I think you'd like the story because I forgot what the details were, but it was like a bunch of women's husbands died in war or something like that.
01:54:29.000 It might have been like the revolution.
01:54:30.000 I'm not sure.
01:54:31.000 And then the banks were like, Hey, we loaned you money for this property.
01:54:33.000 You got to pay it back.
01:54:34.000 And they couldn't because they weren't working.
01:54:35.000 And then all the men got together and they were like, Nope, it's ours now.
01:54:38.000 There were a lot of times during the Great Depressions that they would.
01:54:42.000 Banks would repossess farms and they would go up for auction.
01:54:45.000 The men in the town would basically hold guns to everyone's head and be like, if you bid more than a dollar, and so the auction opening bid, 25 cents sold, and they would just give it back to the widow.
01:54:56.000 And the men would make sure no one was involved in this auction.
01:55:00.000 They protected their own.
01:55:01.000 The movie The Old Oak.
01:55:03.000 Is that the name?
01:55:03.000 2023, The Old Oak.
01:55:05.000 Well, that movie's based on something.
01:55:07.000 Oh, okay.
01:55:08.000 It's very similar to what Daniel's talking about.
01:55:10.000 It's like an old story where, like, Bank tried to repossess widows' homes.
01:55:13.000 What's it based?
01:55:14.000 Yeah, we're so far departed from like, yeah, sort of social mobilization.
01:55:19.000 I think actually one of the main problems in the economy is because we're so atomized.
01:55:22.000 Like the economy, home buying, it's saving money in general is designed for married couples.
01:55:27.000 So the fact that like young people aren't getting married makes it like not, you have to get really wealthy in order to like actually compete in the housing market, for example.
01:55:36.000 It's designed for married couples to go in there together and like society is just completely unraveled.
01:55:40.000 It's like there's multiple problems here.
01:55:42.000 It's not necessarily just boomers holding wealth.
01:55:44.000 Problem, but a lot of it is young people aren't married.
01:55:44.000 That's a big problem.
01:55:46.000 They can't pool their incomes together and go in on a house.
01:55:49.000 The story is in 1952, farmers arrested the town sheriff.
01:55:53.000 He was attempting to evict a widow from her farm at the best of a local insurance company.
01:55:57.000 I love that story.
01:55:58.000 You know, just because it's the law doesn't mean you have to do it.
01:56:02.000 I know you're supposed to do the law when it's good, but if the legal system is made to screw you and it's a multinational organization where they get contracts that are usurious, like, dude, I love seeing people row together to protect the community against this machine evil.
01:56:16.000 This is what you were talking about.
01:56:17.000 They said in the Great Depression, When a property was foreclosed on, the bank would hold an auction on the property.
01:56:22.000 The locals would show up, guns in hand, threatening anybody who would dare to bid on it, and the family would get their foreclosed property back for a penny.
01:56:29.000 Through the banks.
01:56:29.000 I love it.
01:56:30.000 I love it.
01:56:31.000 That's just solidarity with your community because that's what we're fighting for, it's our community.
01:56:34.000 If the U.S. government were like, all right, banks, we're taking all your property, would they then pull out of the United States to be like, fine, you're off the liberal economic order, and then we go be defunct?
01:56:43.000 Okay, good.
01:56:44.000 You know, it's about time the workers of the world came together and united.
01:56:50.000 Hey, I got that movie you were talking about earlier about the dystopian future.
01:56:53.000 It's called The Inheritance.
01:56:54.000 It takes place in 2126 in the brief synopsis.
01:56:57.000 Oh, it's already a movie.
01:56:58.000 No, no, this is just what ChatGPT made up.
01:57:00.000 It's like, make me a movie synopsis.
01:57:01.000 In the 2030s, the first effective longevity treatments arrived just in time for the wealthiest members of the baby boomer community.
01:57:06.000 Can you slack me that?
01:57:07.000 What's that?
01:57:08.000 Slack me that whole prompt.
01:57:09.000 First, I'm going to make a 30 second movie to you.
01:57:10.000 I'm going to do it to you now.
01:57:12.000 I'll read this and then I'll give it to you.
01:57:14.000 So you mentioned the banks, and I know you've got to go to it.
01:57:16.000 It's me now.
01:57:18.000 The banking reform that was proposed after the banking crisis, all it did was make us have bigger, stronger, fewer, richer banks.
01:57:25.000 And this is where people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are the problem.
01:57:28.000 Like, we're going to fix the banking issue to save housing.
01:57:32.000 And all they did was they made banks stronger.
01:57:34.000 And we lost 1,600 community banks, right?
01:57:37.000 We lost all of our small.
01:57:38.000 Where the banker knew your name.
01:57:39.000 Oh, Tate, how are you doing?
01:57:40.000 How's your mom?
01:57:42.000 We have very few strong, powerful.
01:57:42.000 Those are all gone.
01:57:46.000 So when Elizabeth Warren gets up there and she talks about how we're going to fix the banking problem, all you did was make the banks stronger and richer and more powerful.
01:57:53.000 That's what regulation does.
01:57:55.000 Well, because wasn't it once they cut the ability for.
01:57:58.000 Because it used to be, as I understand it, banks, if they wanted to operate in different states, they had to set up individual, like, Proprietorships basically, and then they like eliminated that and allowed just like a few banks just to tear everything up, exactly.
01:58:08.000 And uh, it's kind of like one of those things where it's like, okay, sure, it allowed larger business to access more capital at once so it could expand the economy at the upper end, but then at the lower end, it just chewed up all these community banks and whatnot.
01:58:18.000 We're gonna go to rumble rants and super chats before we go to the uncensored portion of the show, so make sure you get those in.
01:58:24.000 We'll get as many as we can.
01:58:25.000 We went a little bit longer today, it happens.
01:58:27.000 Chaos says, today my wife and I welcomed our third child and first son into the world at 8 51 a.m.
01:58:33.000 Congratulations, welcome to the world.
01:58:35.000 Get to work, get grinding.
01:58:37.000 I know you're little, but you can.
01:58:39.000 Meetho says, Why would I want the nanny state in my car?
01:58:39.000 Got it.
01:58:41.000 I'm literally importing a 99 Hilux from Chile to get a maintainable car that doesn't have these stupid features.
01:58:48.000 Hello, Hilux Patriot.
01:58:50.000 A Hilux might be the greatest vehicle ever made.
01:58:54.000 The Hilux.
01:58:55.000 Yeah.
01:58:56.000 Legacy 4 1 says, F the youngsters, I paid my dues.
01:59:00.000 I'm not surprised.
01:59:01.000 I actually do think that.
01:59:02.000 We need to do, like, remember in Spider Man, I love using this as a reference to, like, the masculine power fantasy when Green Goblin is like, What will it be, Spider Man?
01:59:12.000 Marry Jane or suffer the children.
01:59:13.000 And then Spider Man saves them both because he's Spider Man.
01:59:17.000 I want to see it where he's like older and he's like, F the youngsters.
01:59:20.000 And he drops them.
01:59:21.000 I paid my dues.
01:59:22.000 And then he lets Green Goblin go.
01:59:23.000 Is that even true?
01:59:25.000 Is it only like a few years you've already gotten more out of Social Security than you ever paid in your entire life?
01:59:29.000 It's like on average only a few years.
01:59:32.000 Well, you certainly don't put in $700 a month on average.
01:59:36.000 I think the average person is definitely not.
01:59:37.000 The average is like two grand for Social Security.
01:59:39.000 You're getting about two grand out every month.
01:59:41.000 No, no, we looked up it.
01:59:43.000 Oh, wait.
01:59:43.000 No, he looked it up.
01:59:44.000 It was 700 insurance.
01:59:45.000 It was 700, but social security benefits.
01:59:47.000 Yeah, social security benefits at a quite two grand a month.
01:59:50.000 Right.
01:59:51.000 And it depends on where you are.
01:59:52.000 Like, if you wait longer, you could get like five grand out if you wait till you're like 70.
01:59:56.000 And Virginia, it's much higher.
01:59:58.000 Jay Dirtbiker says, Y'all should read Biological War by Annie Jacobson that came out a month ago.
02:00:02.000 Literally the exact same scenario of this lab leak.
02:00:05.000 Same pneumonic plague, same laboratory in Siberia.
02:00:08.000 It's eerie.
02:00:08.000 What?
02:00:10.000 Oh, she's great.
02:00:11.000 Ann Jacobson?
02:00:12.000 Yeah, I've seen everyone talking about her book.
02:00:12.000 Yeah.
02:00:14.000 People are thinking, like, this has got to be.
02:00:16.000 The best day ever for her because oh my gosh, she got like exactly what she was thinking on the morning, or it's predictive programming and the plague is coming.
02:00:24.000 She probably knew that the anti plague factory was there.
02:00:28.000 And hold on, it's a pneumonic plague airborne, right?
02:00:33.000 A few years after everyone's lungs have been weakened.
02:00:36.000 Oh, is it the one two punch?
02:00:39.000 That's the double tap.
02:00:40.000 That's what they do in the military.
02:00:41.000 You know what's gonna happen?
02:00:42.000 They'll hit a target and then they wait three hours and then they come back and hit it again.
02:00:45.000 Next, the next pandemic we get is gonna be so much worse than the lockdowns we saw before.
02:00:49.000 Everyone will just live in a quarantined building.
02:00:52.000 That's it.
02:00:53.000 Food will be delivered by drones because it'll be like have to be sanitized and people are gonna be like, look, people are literally dying.
02:00:53.000 It's gonna, I don't.
02:01:01.000 At least we'll have GTA VI.
02:01:03.000 Are you kidding, bro?
02:01:04.000 We're gonna have GTA VII with AI.
02:01:05.000 It's true.
02:01:06.000 Yeah, and eight.
02:01:07.000 And nine.
02:01:08.000 Bro, have you seen what they're doing mixing games together?
02:01:10.000 No, not yet.
02:01:10.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, they're doing Minecraft in GTA.
02:01:14.000 They did, what is it, Elder Scrolls Minecraft.
02:01:17.000 And it's like a guy with a pickaxe fighting demons from Elder Scrolls.
02:01:21.000 No, no, I'm sorry, not from Dark Souls.
02:01:23.000 That sounds pretty fun.
02:01:25.000 It was Dark Souls Minecraft.
02:01:27.000 They did Super Mario 64 Dark Souls.
02:01:31.000 Yeah.
02:01:32.000 And Mario's just like, yahoo!
02:01:34.000 And he's like fighting a gigantic demon with a big axe swinging at him.
02:01:36.000 Because they're just using AI to mix the code.
02:01:39.000 It's nuts.
02:01:40.000 They mixed Spider Man 2 with EA Skate.
02:01:44.000 Oh.
02:01:45.000 I've been building the tools that you use to build games.
02:01:48.000 Because I was like, well, everyone's building games.
02:01:50.000 Why don't I build software that will help them build games faster?
02:01:53.000 So I'm building Unity plugins that I'll sell on the Unity store.
02:01:57.000 Let's grab a couple more while we still can.
02:01:58.000 Jake?
02:01:59.000 Bent says, Hey, Tim, I've been watching you guys every day for about six years now.
02:02:02.000 My grandmother, Sherry Lou, just passed away today.
02:02:05.000 It'd mean a lot to me if you could give her a shout out.
02:02:08.000 Love you guys and thank you for everything you do.
02:02:10.000 Shout out to Sherry Lou.
02:02:13.000 And you got a great family here.
02:02:15.000 Rest in peace, Patriot.
02:02:18.000 God bless you.
02:02:18.000 Rest in peace, Patriot.
02:02:19.000 Thank you.
02:02:21.000 All right.
02:02:21.000 Nancy says, Listen to Promethean Action.
02:02:24.000 Great people to invite on your show.
02:02:26.000 They're great historians who can explain what Trump is doing to, oh, there's a period there.
02:02:30.000 Trump is doing to straight out the economy.
02:02:32.000 Gas and diesel are high because Obama closed the refineries in 2008 and Biden closed the pipe.
02:02:38.000 I think those are factors, but there's a war that I don't think you can just ignore when it comes to the high price of gas or diesel.
02:02:45.000 We have a diesel shortage, and it's not because of those things 15, 20 years, 15, you know, or so years ago.
02:02:53.000 All right, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, my friends.
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02:03:03.000 Jason, you want to shout anything out?
02:03:05.000 Yeah, socialmediafreedom.org.
02:03:08.000 We are trying to stop all of this crazy nonsense with all of the censorship and big tech and so forth.
02:03:15.000 A little bit of donation would be really good.
02:03:18.000 Again, it's socialmediafreedom.org.
02:03:20.000 We're trying to fight for everybody's voice.
02:03:23.000 And if you need to find me, I'm at Jason, F as in Frank, YK on X.
02:03:29.000 I leave my comments open.
02:03:30.000 So if anybody's looking to go after big tech, we know how to help you out.
02:03:34.000 We can get you in the right people and so forth.
02:03:37.000 Right on.
02:03:38.000 Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, powerthefuture.com.
02:03:40.000 If you like energy issues, climate change, all that insanity, remember Genius here.
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02:03:58.000 Thank you.
02:03:59.000 Hey, hopefully we'll get to watch this short movie you're making, The Inheritance.
02:04:02.000 It's done.
02:04:03.000 Based off of maybe on the after show, we can go to the after show.
02:04:05.000 It's a 30 second movie trailer.
02:04:06.000 Roll us out with it.
02:04:08.000 Ian Crossland up in the house.
02:04:09.000 I'm going to go back to my AI.
02:04:11.000 My SI, my ASI.
02:04:13.000 I'm going to go harvest more brain activity here in about two hours.
02:04:16.000 But until then, I'll see you on the after show.
02:04:19.000 I'm going to watch the sheep.
02:04:21.000 I'm going to go on my Instagram and look at nice photos of nice little lambs and watch that.
02:04:24.000 And Carter.
02:04:27.000 Genius.
02:04:27.000 Daniel, thanks for coming, man.
02:04:29.000 That's true.
02:04:30.000 Everyone, thanks.
02:04:32.000 It's my birthday today.
02:04:33.000 So if you would do me a favor and subscribe to that thing.
02:04:36.000 Happy birthday.
02:04:37.000 Thank you.
02:04:37.000 Happy birthday.
02:04:38.000 Yeah, but yeah, let's get into the after show.
02:04:40.000 He's 46.
02:04:41.000 He's 80.
02:04:42.000 Yeah.
02:04:42.000 He's 18 today.
02:04:43.000 He's 18 today.
02:04:45.000 We will see you all at rumble.com slash TimCast IRL right now. Don't go anywhere, and we'll see you there.
02:05:48.000 Got three.
02:05:49.000 Dude, I'll liquidate all of them.
02:05:50.000 All right, here's the first movie trailer.
02:05:54.000 Pull it up.
02:05:56.000 Oh, sorry.
02:05:57.000 Here we go.
02:05:58.000 Movie trailer number one.
02:06:07.000 I will not let you destroy this world!
02:06:20.000 I've done it. I've saved the world.
02:06:29.000 I got another one for you.
02:06:30.000 That's the.
02:06:31.000 There you go.
02:06:32.000 Yeah.
02:06:33.000 This isn't the inheritance, though.
02:06:35.000 Watch.
02:06:37.000 I will not let you destroy this world!
02:06:44.000 Gee, Dory!
02:06:47.000 Fuck yeah.
02:06:54.000 I've done it. I've saved the world.
02:06:57.000 You missed it, Tate.
02:07:01.000 I'll play it one more time just for you.
02:07:03.000 Because you get it, right, Ian?
02:07:05.000 No.
02:07:06.000 Nobody gets it?
02:07:08.000 I thought it was your movie about the old people getting young again and hoarding all the wealth.
02:07:12.000 I will not let you destroy this world!
02:07:16.000 Oh, I get it.
02:07:20.000 It's a son.
02:07:21.000 Electric.
02:07:23.000 It took me a second.
02:07:25.000 I've done it.
02:07:26.000 It's so realistic.
02:07:27.000 I've saved the world.
02:07:28.000 And for people who don't know, Chidori is from Naruto.
02:07:32.000 The character Sasuke grabs his arm and then generates electricity from his hand, and then he punches you with electricity.
02:07:40.000 All right, here's the actual movie trailer.
02:07:41.000 This is what I was looking forward to.
02:07:42.000 They were supposed to die a century ago.
02:07:46.000 Biologically 50, but is 173 years old.
02:07:52.000 The word continuance.
02:07:54.000 Medicare.
02:07:55.000 One lifetime!
02:07:57.000 One inheritance!
02:07:58.000 Why was the cop yelling at me?
02:08:01.000 The treatment is becoming cheap.
02:08:07.000 If nobody dies, who gets to own the future?
02:08:11.000 Oh, good question.
02:08:13.000 That's it.
02:08:14.000 It could have been.
02:08:15.000 Well, what you need to do is you need to tell it to make two prompts.
02:08:20.000 Yeah, that was a shitty basic prompt with a low brain.
02:08:22.000 You then need to tell it to generate images to start each 30 second with the characters that are the same.
02:08:31.000 Otherwise, it won't be able to use the same characters.
02:08:33.000 And then you need to make two or three prompts for a minute long trailer.
02:08:36.000 When can we put ourselves in this?
02:08:38.000 Right now.
02:08:39.000 Literally.
02:08:40.000 You want me to put you in it?
02:08:41.000 Well, that's what we should be capitalizing on.
02:08:44.000 We got another one.
02:08:44.000 Oh, whoa.
02:08:45.000 Wasn't I. Hold on, hold on.
02:08:46.000 It made a second one.
02:08:47.000 Wasn't I a Roman soldier in a movie about you?
02:08:50.000 I didn't see it.
02:08:54.000 They were supposed to die a century ago.
02:08:57.000 Breaking news the government will fully cover the continuation treatment.
02:09:01.000 For all eligible seniors.
02:09:02.000 One lifetime, one inch!
02:09:08.000 You think this is about money?
02:09:10.000 Look impossibly in agings.
02:09:12.000 In concept, preserving retirement city.
02:09:16.000 If nobody dies, who gets to own the future?
02:09:20.000 I didn't put in that they all look the same.
02:09:21.000 I like your part.
02:09:22.000 I'm going to put Ian in there.
02:09:23.000 I like your part that they all look the same age.
02:09:25.000 I didn't specify that they were still in their 30s, that they expected in their 50s.
02:09:29.000 Let's put Ian in the movie.
02:09:30.000 They'd have like dark hair.
02:09:31.000 I mean, I think they would still look, you know, like.
02:09:34.000 If you do the gene, yeah, should we use 20 year old Ian Crossland?
02:09:38.000 Yeah, sure.
02:09:40.000 I sort of look my best.
02:09:41.000 Because if you're 190, but you look 32, and all you want to do is bang a hot chick, but the 32 year old who's 190 has money, so why not bang her?
02:09:50.000 So you're not going to bang a real 32 year old because the 180 year old with all the billions of dollars looks like she's 32.
02:09:57.000 Too many characters.
02:09:58.000 Not even any reason to bang a young girl.
02:10:02.000 Like that's all girls have going for them, right?
02:10:04.000 Is like, or at least the rich guy has money, you know, like, all right.
02:10:07.000 Unless it's your great, great, great.
02:10:09.000 Great granddaughter, and you want to keep the money in the family.
02:10:12.000 Oh, well, that gets a little kinky though, doesn't it?
02:10:14.000 Once it's like three generations out, I think there's like very little to know.
02:10:14.000 Yeah.
02:10:17.000 Unless you're royalty in breeding.
02:10:19.000 If you're royalty, it's fine, right?
02:10:21.000 If you're.
02:10:21.000 Well, it's a good point.
02:10:22.000 I think about this, I was going to say a lot, not literally, but like if you're 150 and you look 30, I mean, you very well may accidentally bang your great, great, great, great granddaughter.
02:10:33.000 Oops.
02:10:34.000 Yeah, but it's like.
02:10:35.000 You're all the same age anyway.
02:10:35.000 That's why we.
02:10:36.000 I mean, that's why we used to have to do blood tests before you got married, right?
02:10:39.000 Because now statistically it's almost impossible and everyone knows.
02:10:42.000 But back in the day, it was like, we have to make sure we're not related.
02:10:45.000 That's true.
02:10:47.000 Which is why the cousin fucking in the UK.
02:10:50.000 We're not live.
02:10:50.000 Oh, we're not.
02:10:51.000 Oh, we're not.
02:10:51.000 Yeah, but you can say that.
02:10:52.000 That's why the cousin fucking in the UK bill is so important because they're still trying to legalize marrying your first cousin because of Islam.
02:11:00.000 And the Brits are saying you can't legalize that because you get a lot of inbreeding.
02:11:05.000 And inbreeding, as a sheep farmer, is really bad.
02:11:08.000 But they're trying to legalize it because of Islam practices.
02:11:11.000 You want to preserve the family unit.
02:11:14.000 And so you fuck your first cousin.
02:11:17.000 They're bringing it to their.
02:11:19.000 It's becoming very common in the UK, but they want to legalize it.
02:11:22.000 It's not legal yet.
02:11:24.000 What?
02:11:24.000 But they're doing it anyway.
02:11:25.000 Some parliamentarian decided they're going to bring a bill that lets you marry your cousin?
02:11:29.000 They're marrying within Sharia law, but they're not married in the state.
02:11:32.000 Oh.
02:11:33.000 But they're married in their religion and they're having children.
02:11:35.000 And so now they're saying, well, we want the parents recognized as a married couple.
02:11:40.000 And up till now, the British law is like, well, no, we're not going to recognize you as a married couple because your brother and sister are first cousins.
02:11:46.000 They're trying to change that law and it's becoming very contentious in the UK.
02:11:50.000 You know, I don't think a nation should ever have to bow to a religion personally.
02:11:53.000 No.
02:11:55.000 All right.
02:11:56.000 So we're in the middle of relocating studios, and these next couple of weeks are going to be particularly brutal because we are delayed on the studio move.
02:12:07.000 So I'm going to have to bounce in a couple of minutes because I have to drive far away after this.
02:12:12.000 But I'm going to let this one finish.
02:12:14.000 I took a picture of Ian when he's like 23, put him in the movie trailer.
02:12:19.000 Movie trailer is currently rendering.
02:12:21.000 I was interested in that.
02:12:22.000 So in a couple of minutes, we'll play this.
02:12:23.000 Then I'm going to dip, and then y'all can hang out and take the reins.
02:12:27.000 Bringing the callers and all the good stuff.
02:12:28.000 Where's the new studio going to be?
02:12:29.000 Is it DC?
02:12:30.000 Oh, the DC one that's official.
02:12:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:12:31.000 It's going to be in the same building as all the big major networks.
02:12:34.000 Yeah, you mentioned that.
02:12:34.000 Okay.
02:12:36.000 Yep.
02:12:36.000 There you go.
02:12:38.000 Some of these studios, $600,000 a year, I think.
02:12:43.000 It's like $60K a month for rent.
02:12:44.000 Jeez.
02:12:45.000 Ours is a lot smaller than that because we have two rooms.
02:12:50.000 Actually, we got a pretty good office.
02:12:51.000 We have one dedicated studio in the building, and it's about as big as this room, but same thing.
02:12:57.000 And then we have across the hall, we have a full office with it's got a reception and it's got three spaces.
02:13:03.000 We're doing the Tim Pool show there.
02:13:04.000 So, yeah, very cool.
02:13:06.000 That was supposed to be now, but it's going to be in about a week and a half.
02:13:09.000 And so, this delay in the set design, oh, it's going to be crazy.
02:13:13.000 Like, everything is TV level production, though.
02:13:15.000 Okay.
02:13:16.000 Yeah.
02:13:16.000 Can I ask a difficult question?
02:13:18.000 Sure.
02:13:18.000 What about security?
02:13:19.000 Because you're kind of anonymous now.
02:13:21.000 Now you have an office in DC.
02:13:23.000 Yeah, but this building is the main network building.
02:13:25.000 It's secure, but you're not concerned about like Tim Pool.
02:13:28.000 Like, everyone knows Tim Pool's.
02:13:29.000 Broadcasting out of that building, we're going to go stand outside and protest.
02:13:33.000 And I mean, that'd be like people, they didn't go there when Tucker was there, okay, you know, or when uh Laura Ingram, I think, is still there.
02:13:40.000 Yeah, Fox is in that building, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:13:42.000 Well, I mean, Laura Ingram's there, yeah, okay, good.
02:13:44.000 No, I don't know, whatever.
02:13:45.000 I mean, I want you to be secure, I'm just saying that.
02:13:47.000 Like, one of the things about being out here is no one knows where the hell you are, yeah, but uh, I don't know, it is what it is, I guess, okay, you know, it's pretty wild having a lot of conversations with people, uh, because I actually interviewed Jim Norton today, amazing, very funny guy.
02:14:04.000 And one of the things we were talking about is how just like there are people online who lie intentionally because they want to make money.
02:14:11.000 And so they make up things about everybody else.
02:14:13.000 Basically, these lefties are talking amongst themselves about the right, not to the right or asking the right what they think, and they become dangerous.
02:14:22.000 They become violent because of it.
02:14:23.000 Yeah.
02:14:25.000 Yeah, it's fucking bridge the gap, baby.
02:14:27.000 That's why I'm here.
02:14:28.000 Well, you can't bridge the gap with people who want to be angry because they're trying to be angry and they want to be angry.
02:14:34.000 So you try and tell them not to be angry.
02:14:35.000 They're going to say, stop, I'm mad at you no matter what.
02:14:37.000 Yeah.
02:14:38.000 If they're angry, you don't extend them a bridge.
02:14:40.000 You got to be better on your side of the river.
02:14:42.000 And then they'll start, they'll be like, oh, hey, maybe a bridge.
02:14:45.000 Maybe a bridge would be a good idea, but don't like try and help them if they don't want help.
02:14:51.000 At least don't take the bridge down.
02:14:53.000 They'll burn the bridge down.
02:14:54.000 Yeah.
02:14:55.000 I mean, we've seen it so many times.
02:14:57.000 It's like we offer, I look at it like this the right looks at the left and they pity them.
02:15:04.000 Like you're confused, you're misguided, and you want to help them understand the truth, you know, about everything, so to speak.
02:15:10.000 The left is like, you don't believe what I believe.
02:15:12.000 I think you should die.
02:15:14.000 I mean, that's what I keep getting across the board.
02:15:16.000 And it's like, Why?
02:15:17.000 Why do you have to be so violent and angry and so forth?
02:15:19.000 Why can't we disagree and still like each other?
02:15:21.000 Because you're in the way of their utopia.
02:15:24.000 True.
02:15:25.000 The strange thing is, I actually, one of my really good friends, we deviated drastically publicly.
02:15:31.000 He was actually running Occupy Democrats.
02:15:35.000 He was their primary guy.
02:15:38.000 And we've had conversations that are bizarre.
02:15:40.000 I'm like, where I'm literally calling, I'm like, dude, you're delusional.
02:15:44.000 He still thinks the Russians are still involved with the whole thing.
02:15:47.000 And it's just like, What do you not get?
02:15:49.000 And, but, you know, at least with him, we can have conversations where, you know, we can be heated and so forth.
02:15:56.000 Tell us about it.
02:15:57.000 You're not getting mad about stuff.
02:15:58.000 Tell us about your friend, Brian Shapiro, Ian.
02:16:00.000 The Shapman.
02:16:02.000 Shapmobile.
02:16:04.000 He's the jam.
02:16:04.000 He's nuts.
02:16:05.000 I haven't talked to him in like two years.
02:16:06.000 Oh, it screwed up.
02:16:08.000 They were supposed to die a century ago.
02:16:10.000 It screwed it up.
02:16:11.000 It doesn't work.
02:16:12.000 Really?
02:16:13.000 Yeah, because I'd have to actually get a real picture of Ian first.
02:16:16.000 Otherwise.
02:16:17.000 Oh, is that you?
02:16:18.000 They were supposed to die a century ago.
02:16:20.000 Death keeps getting postponed.
02:16:22.000 And they still own everything.
02:16:24.000 Medicare will cover it.
02:16:26.000 One inheritance.
02:16:28.000 The announcement detonates the country.
02:16:31.000 The treatment is becoming cheap.
02:16:32.000 Within several years, almost everyone could receive it.
02:16:35.000 The class war isn't really between young and old.
02:16:38.000 It's between the last generation that had to die and the first generation that might not.
02:16:43.000 If nobody dies, who gets to own the future?
02:16:48.000 Wow.
02:16:48.000 That wasn't that bad, actually.
02:16:49.000 Decent.
02:16:50.000 What I need to do is I need to take the picture of you.
02:16:50.000 It's getting there.
02:16:53.000 I can do this right now.
02:16:54.000 I load it into ChatGPT and I say, make this 16 by 9.
02:17:00.000 Then it's going to render that photo of you into a 16 by 9 version I can load into C Dance.
02:17:05.000 And then C Dance will use that reference image for the full film.
02:17:08.000 Oh my God.
02:17:09.000 We then need to tell ChatGPT to write an actual script.
02:17:12.000 So then I need to say, take that story, write a 30 second movie trailer script with beats, then paste that into C Dance so it can actually make something that makes sense.
02:17:25.000 Before we go to Colorado, one question for you, Jason.
02:17:28.000 What was your Facebook page?
02:17:29.000 Are you taking off, Tim?
02:17:30.000 I'm out.
02:17:31.000 Peace and love, bro.
02:17:32.000 I got like a 40 minute drive.
02:17:33.000 So normally it was a lot easier, but now these next couple weeks are going to be pretty brutal.
02:17:37.000 So we'll see what we can do.
02:17:38.000 And I got to travel on Thursday.
02:17:39.000 It's going to be crazy.
02:17:39.000 But Tate's here.
02:17:40.000 You know, he's the man.
02:17:41.000 Drive safe, bang.
02:17:42.000 Thanks for coming, guys.
02:17:43.000 Good to see you.
02:17:44.000 Thank you for having me.
02:17:44.000 Thanks, Tim.
02:17:45.000 See you guys next time.
02:17:46.000 Take care.
02:17:46.000 Anytime, you guys.
02:17:47.000 Come back.
02:17:49.000 Jason, what was your Facebook page in 2010?
02:17:51.000 Can you come sit into it?
02:17:53.000 So I own WTF Magazine, it was my primary business.
02:17:58.000 It's funny because it still has 2.4 million fans, and I don't even use the page.
02:18:02.000 Like, it just sits there.
02:18:04.000 But I had most of the Family Guy fan pages.
02:18:09.000 I had kind of like a, it was all humor stuff.
02:18:12.000 It was, it was all along the lines of like, like a crazy story.
02:18:16.000 This actually happened.
02:18:18.000 When I figured out how to monetize, like nobody understood how to take an audience and actually make money with it.
02:18:23.000 And mine was kind of an accidental thing.
02:18:26.000 I cold called college humor because I did the same kind of just goofy stuff across my entire network.
02:18:33.000 And I said, Are you guys interested?
02:18:35.000 I could send people to your website because I couldn't program, I couldn't do anything.
02:18:39.000 It was just, I just had this massive audience.
02:18:41.000 And they said, no, we only work with corporate partners that can send at least a million hits a month.
02:18:46.000 A million hits a month.
02:18:48.000 I can do that today.
02:18:49.000 She said, excuse me, what?
02:18:51.000 And I said, I can do it today.
02:18:52.000 She said, well, can we set up a test?
02:18:53.000 I said, it's already done.
02:18:54.000 She said, what do you mean?
02:18:55.000 I said, look at your analytics.
02:18:57.000 So she gets on her analytics, and all I hear on the other end of the phone is, oh my God.
02:19:01.000 Oh my God, what did you do?
02:19:03.000 I send people to your site.
02:19:03.000 You got to stop.
02:19:05.000 I crashed their servers.
02:19:07.000 And this was not a DDoS attack.
02:19:09.000 This was just straight pointing my Facebook pages at some.
02:19:14.000 Information, you know, some comedy stuff that they had before Facebook used throttled.
02:19:20.000 Yeah.
02:19:20.000 It was full distribution.
02:19:21.000 You could make insane money.
02:19:23.000 I was doing the same thing.
02:19:24.000 We had Mines.
02:19:24.000 We started off in 2010, and then Occupy Wall.
02:19:27.000 It was like March Against Monsanto was a big page.
02:19:29.000 Exposing the truth.
02:19:30.000 We were doing a lot of 9 11 truth stuff, but like, and then they thought the throttle happened overnight.
02:19:36.000 You had to pay money.
02:19:37.000 You got to 3% of your followers instead of all 100%.
02:19:40.000 You took it from everybody.
02:19:41.000 It was fucked.
02:19:41.000 That was like probably the most insidious undercut I've ever seen by a social network.
02:19:45.000 It was about, Between January and March of 2014, they slaughtered everyone.
02:19:51.000 They stole everybody's distribution and decided to sell that.
02:19:55.000 And nobody understands that that is not publishing at all.
02:19:59.000 That is, you stole the economic value that you had us build for you.
02:20:05.000 You said, hey, we're going to give you a free platform.
02:20:07.000 All you have to do is build your audience and then they can reach you.
02:20:10.000 And then they went, yoink.
02:20:12.000 And they just took it and they sold it to advertisers because their business model doesn't have side ads.
02:20:18.000 It's selling the distribution and displacement of its own users.
02:20:23.000 Facebook and Google and even Twitter to a lesser degree, they are direct competitors with their own users.
02:20:30.000 And we can't get into courts to prove that because their advertising models would collapse.
02:20:36.000 Like, collapse.
02:20:37.000 This is bad stuff for them.
02:20:39.000 I love it.
02:20:40.000 Let's go take it away, Tate.
02:20:41.000 I think it's time to get into the meat potatoes.
02:20:43.000 Let's do it.
02:20:43.000 We're going to get a couple callers.
02:20:46.000 We're going to our guest callers portion of scenario.
02:20:48.000 Let's start it out tonight with Ryan Major.
02:20:50.000 Ryan.
02:20:52.000 Major threat.
02:20:52.000 Brian, major threat.
02:20:53.000 You're on it too.
02:20:54.000 Cast IRL.
02:20:56.000 We're listening.
02:20:58.000 Thanks, guys, for having me on.
02:21:01.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:21:04.000 Okay.
02:21:05.000 This weekend, I saw some truly horrifying drone footage out of Ukraine where they were using drones to drip thermite on enemy trench lines.
02:21:16.000 After seeing that footage, I began to wonder is it now time for a new Geneva Convention on drones and AI in war?
02:21:26.000 And I have a follow up with that, but that's the first part.
02:21:32.000 Yeah.
02:21:33.000 I mean, I would say so.
02:21:34.000 I mean, I know people roll their eyes at, you know, international correspondence on laws of war and whatnot, but yeah.
02:21:42.000 I mean, again, the major powers do generally abide by the Geneva Convention.
02:21:49.000 Again, there's not much, you know, barring the post war moment we have, there's not much these international bodies can do to enforce these.
02:21:58.000 But, you know, in a world where like sanctions are still a thing, you know, if the United States perceives that Russia committed a war crime, they can, you know, utilize that in a sanctions pack and say, well, they committed, you know, they broke X, you know, international covenant we had.
02:22:12.000 Right now, it doesn't matter because they're completely sanctioned anyway.
02:22:15.000 But, you know, in a situation in which, you know, China, for example, you know, if China were to do this to, you know, who knows, Taiwan or Tibet or something, then we could come in and apply extra sanctions and have the, you know, the justification to do so.
02:22:29.000 And, you know, I don't know specifically how the mechanisms work, but probably all the other NATO nations maybe would have to comply, or certain people and certain trade organizations would have to comply.
02:22:40.000 I'm sure there is some sort of mechanisms in place.
02:22:41.000 But I'm generally pretty dismissive of these international bodies in 2026, but I do think that would be worthwhile to pursue.
02:22:49.000 Yeah, the Geneva, Switzerland, which is where they have the Bank for International Settlements.
02:22:53.000 I mean, after World War II, they basically, I think that's when they set up the Geneva Convention, was after World War II, they're like, okay, we're going to lock it down.
02:22:58.000 Now, I'm being cynical.
02:22:59.000 This is my cynical take on the Geneva Convention because I think.
02:23:01.000 Protecting people from horrors of war is a good thing.
02:23:04.000 But they basically pulled the ladder up and they're like, all right, now that we have control of the world, you can't use chemical weapons.
02:23:10.000 You can't use nuclear weapons.
02:23:12.000 It violates our laws now.
02:23:14.000 So, like all the guerrilla war tactics of poisoning water supplies, poisoning, poisoning, they were like, no, no, no, you can't do that.
02:23:21.000 You have to just fight with guns because they had all the guns.
02:23:25.000 And so that's like, yeah, no, like Tate said, nobody, when it comes down to the shit, nobody fucking adheres to the rules.
02:23:32.000 Like it's about winning and surviving.
02:23:34.000 And, uh, But also, you don't want to leave the world a steaming heap of shit after the fact.
02:23:40.000 Now, that aside, the optimization, the optimal look at it is no, I don't think drones have become deadly enough to issue a justifiable ban on them in conflict.
02:23:52.000 I think countries are just warming up to using them.
02:23:56.000 And it's about what you do with the drone.
02:23:58.000 If you use a drone to drop a nuclear weapon, if you use a drone to take a picture, maybe napalm could be against the Geneva Convention.
02:24:05.000 You know, like you said, thermite streams, maybe that could be made.
02:24:08.000 That would probably be.
02:24:10.000 But like shooting depleted uranium doesn't seem to be.
02:24:14.000 Yeah, I think like an equilibrium is going to develop in the next, maybe not with this current war, but the next major war we have some sort of equilibrium.
02:24:23.000 If we're not already there, that eliminates the asymmetry right now that we're seeing with drone warfare.
02:24:27.000 So I don't know.
02:24:29.000 Russia might already be there.
02:24:30.000 The Ukrainians just have the edge globally on drones.
02:24:33.000 But a situation in which drones are no longer like an X factor if you're the underdog in a war.
02:24:40.000 For example, the United States seems to be now figuring out how to counter Iran's drones, but Saudis haven't figured that out yet, the Houthis.
02:24:50.000 So it's just difficult to say.
02:24:52.000 I think we're like five years away from drones maybe losing as much of their punch as they currently do.
02:24:57.000 Probably just two rival drone swarms going at each other.
02:25:00.000 That's what I always like listening to these because I don't know what I'm talking about.
02:25:03.000 I listen to these military technology and strategists podcasts and whatever, and they always mention that they're like, we're probably a couple years away from rival drone swarms.
02:25:11.000 You know, with these $50 drones they can manufacture in mass going at it.
02:25:16.000 I could see a drone swarm being hacked and then serving the side of the opponent.
02:25:16.000 Hacking them.
02:25:20.000 Well, just think about like a minute, like, but the way they describe it is think about every front line or every base has like a mini iron dome of small drones that can be manufactured for like $40, $50.
02:25:31.000 So if, you know, like, let's use Israel, Palestine, you know, say Hamas launches a drone swarm, then Israel can launch a drone swarm and intercept all of them.
02:25:40.000 And it's going to just take us back to where we were before drone warfare, in theory, you know.
02:25:45.000 It just eliminates the punch, so to speak, of drones on the battlefield.
02:25:50.000 Unless it's just completely asymmetrical, right?
02:25:52.000 Like if it's the IRGC versus the American Navy, who knows?
02:25:56.000 There's a lot more factors when you're like flying drones over water than there would be over land.
02:26:01.000 But you said you had a follow up to another part of that.
02:26:05.000 Yeah.
02:26:06.000 My follow up is given the discussion you've just had, wouldn't it be suicide for the U.S. to sign such a treaty?
02:26:13.000 Yeah.
02:26:14.000 That's, yeah, I think so.
02:26:15.000 That's why I said no.
02:26:16.000 Cause it, you know, I think we've been, well, the American people haven't benefited, but we've benefited from these international correspondences purely because that was how we justified going into Iraq.
02:26:27.000 So, And previously, I mean, we kind of got boned to Vietnam a little bit, but like generally, the US with the Geneva Convention, because it was ratified by everyone, we can like bend it to our will to just because the United States wouldn't.
02:26:42.000 Well, I don't know, maybe people disagree with this.
02:26:45.000 We wouldn't go to the degrees of war crimes, so to speak, as maybe some of our contemporaries around the globe would.
02:26:53.000 So we're always going to be on the bench.
02:26:55.000 I would assume we would be benefiting from being able to utilize it for sanctions packages and whatnot.
02:27:01.000 But, yeah, to Ian's point, I mean, I don't really see the utility of like reining in drones.
02:27:07.000 They just came about, you know, AI is probably where maybe there should be more of a conversation.
02:27:11.000 But even then, you know, it's so much more complicated that I don't even know how effective an international correspondence on how we ought to, you know, utilize it, how that would actually do anything.
02:27:23.000 If there was a Geneva convention on drone or on AI, it would be after a great war was fought with AI and one party came out on top and decided, all right, rest of the world, you can't use it anymore because we have it.
02:27:36.000 No one else is going to get it.
02:27:37.000 Kind of like what they did with nuclear nonproliferation.
02:27:39.000 It was a result of one party control.
02:27:42.000 Otherwise, you can't tell the other person not to use their weapons.
02:27:46.000 This has been my theory with AI right now.
02:27:48.000 I think there's two explanations for why you're seeing Amadei, for example, come out and say, we need to regulate this in the ground.
02:27:55.000 One, either he thinks the ceiling's here and he needs the bubble not to pop.
02:27:59.000 He needs the government to be to blame for slowing down AI.
02:28:01.000 And then he can say, well, we have to slow it down.
02:28:03.000 It wasn't because our technology was starting to see the ceiling.
02:28:07.000 Or the second explanation, which I think is more likely, is a lot of these guys are just waiting for the Democrats to get back into power.
02:28:13.000 They're like, slow down, slow down, slow down.
02:28:15.000 And once the Democrats are back in power, they'll just go full speed ahead and give them the panopticon keys, basically.
02:28:20.000 I think it's the same thing I mentioned in the last segment, which was the banking issue.
02:28:25.000 The big banks, after the crash of 2008, said, yes, we welcome all this regulation because they knew it would just put their competitors out of business.
02:28:32.000 And so Amode is like, no, no, no, we need the government to institute all these safeguards for the good of society.
02:28:39.000 But they know that they can survive the safeguards because they're multi trillion dollar companies.
02:28:43.000 I mean, what is their IPO?
02:28:45.000 It's $2 trillion, right?
02:28:47.000 Supposedly, anthropic.
02:28:49.000 It's either this or the.
02:28:50.000 So they can survive the regulatory body and imposition that Congress will put on them.
02:28:55.000 But the new little startup, Ian Crossland AI, is not going to start up because he won't be able to survive the regulatory environment.
02:29:03.000 Yeah, I mean, that's how they keep you out of business.
02:29:05.000 And then Amo Day will go to you and be like, Ian, thanks for all your work.
02:29:08.000 I'll give you $400,000 for it.
02:29:10.000 And you're like, this is a multi trillion dollar business.
02:29:12.000 Not anymore.
02:29:13.000 It's not.
02:29:14.000 And that's exactly what they want this regulation for.
02:29:17.000 All big business looks for regulation to put their competition out of business.
02:29:21.000 That's the evil bastard relationship of big government and big business.
02:29:24.000 It's either that or for the first time, perhaps in the history of markets, a CEO is voluntarily asking the government to regulate it because he's actually terrified of its capability.
02:29:34.000 Oh no, I might become dictator of the world.
02:29:36.000 How horrible would this be?
02:29:38.000 I just like a weapons program AI.
02:29:40.000 Like, I want to grow brains and vats here and get like 7,000 gigabytes rolling with an AI.
02:29:46.000 Local, but it would cost, you know, $100,000 a month in electricity or whatever the fuck it would cost and it'd blow the power.
02:29:51.000 You needed, you know, you needed center built around it.
02:29:54.000 But I don't want the government to tell me I can't do that.
02:29:55.000 But that's like, I want to build nuclear weapons.
02:29:58.000 The government can tell me you can't build nuclear weapons.
02:30:01.000 So I see where it's coming from.
02:30:03.000 But like, they're always going to the FDA saying, we need you to regulate us because we might make some drug that could be bad for people.
02:30:11.000 Like, they're always looking to go to the government to prevent them from doing something.
02:30:15.000 No, that's just all bullshit.
02:30:17.000 Like, no one goes to the government to stop them from creating a monster.
02:30:20.000 They go to the government to stop the government from letting others create.
02:30:24.000 A monster.
02:30:25.000 They want to get there first.
02:30:27.000 Walmart never went to the government and was like, You need to put in regulations to protect us from abusing the community.
02:30:33.000 It's like, No, you need to put in regulations so that Ian can't start a grocery store in the neighborhood.
02:30:38.000 And you use racism or the environment or climate change or whatever so that Ian can't build a grocery store in the neighborhood.
02:30:45.000 And then I have the only fucking grocery store.
02:30:47.000 I'm very cynical on that.
02:30:49.000 I would love to think Amo Day really sees the end and he wants to protect humanity.
02:30:54.000 But I just feel like this is just another business after lots of businesses.
02:30:58.000 It's bigger and newer and scarier.
02:31:00.000 And businesses always look for government to put up safeguards to keep out competition.
02:31:04.000 I think that's exactly right.
02:31:05.000 And I think, yeah, I think that, I think there's a few motivations there.
02:31:08.000 I mean, I agree.
02:31:09.000 I think it's a major one is crowding out.
02:31:11.000 I think secondarily, yeah, he might just see that the limit of the technology is coming into view.
02:31:15.000 And he's like, I need to crest this shit before, you know, this market comes crashing.
02:31:19.000 But couldn't he do that though without government?
02:31:21.000 If he's really thinking that he's building something that could be bad, how about you just stop?
02:31:26.000 Building it.
02:31:27.000 Well, he needs all.
02:31:28.000 I mean, it would require collaboration from all the CEOs to slow down at the same time.
02:31:31.000 Why can't he use his AI?
02:31:33.000 This is where I don't know AI.
02:31:34.000 Why can't he use his AI to shut down the other people's AI to stop doing the bad things?
02:31:37.000 Maybe you could.
02:31:38.000 Why do we all look at this train coming and we're just like, oh my gosh, get off the fucking tracks?
02:31:42.000 Because it's legal.
02:31:43.000 It would be like terrorism if you used, if you attacked another private company with software, that would be illegal.
02:31:50.000 Yeah, you can't really do that.
02:31:51.000 Okay.
02:31:52.000 It's, I think it's inevitable, which is why he's not stopping.
02:31:54.000 It's like, if we're going to do, if it's going to happen, let's be the first one so at least we can set the tone.
02:31:58.000 Yeah, and you're playing, because I don't.
02:32:01.000 Yeah, it's just tough to say because, like, okay, you're playing chicken with deep sea, you know, or whatever other Chinese models exist.
02:32:08.000 But, you know, everyone's like, well, the Chinese aren't going to slow down.
02:32:10.000 It's like, well, what if, like, we're not, I mean, what if we're actually the ceiling of the technology is already coming into view now and it doesn't even matter if we beat China?
02:32:18.000 Bro, they can parallel machines and run.
02:32:22.000 We have no, what we see is what they sell the consumer market, which is, it's not, it's like one.
02:32:30.000 I don't know what they have.
02:32:30.000 Yeah.
02:32:32.000 No one knows.
02:32:33.000 So it's a question of are they bluffing?
02:32:35.000 They bluff about everything else.
02:32:36.000 They tend to bluff.
02:32:37.000 But I don't know.
02:32:38.000 I mean, there is a certain percent where I'm like, maybe not.
02:32:40.000 If I can buy for $16,000, like a 256 gigabyte AI locally that I can talk to and it can do all my stuff, imagine that times 10 or 100.
02:32:50.000 Like those data centers, the amount of gigs they're running in parallel right now, I don't even know if it's public knowledge.
02:32:56.000 And that's why I'm like, okay, and if that's the case, then I think what's more likely is they're trying to basically run the clock out.
02:33:03.000 So, the Democrats get back in and they can have the panopticon to utilize.
02:33:07.000 That's a worst case scenario, as you give Republican administration keys to the most powerful technology in human history.
02:33:12.000 No, they're going to wait until they have their buddies.
02:33:15.000 I mean, these are all like, okay, yes, Silicon Valley came over to our camp in the last election, but these people are not necessarily friends.
02:33:23.000 There's a few of them that are good, I'm sure, and I know a few of them, but the overwhelming majority of them are still dyed in the wool, liberals, globalists.
02:33:30.000 They ask them their politics.
02:33:33.000 Philpluster.
02:33:34.000 Anthropic says it's using more than 1 million Tranium 2 chips.
02:33:38.000 500,000 Tranium 2 chips.
02:33:43.000 I've never heard of a Tranium 2 chip.
02:33:46.000 NVIDIA, Anthropic also gained access to 220,000 NVIDIA GPUs at the Colossus One facility.
02:33:53.000 That might be their biggest, representing 300 megawatts of compute.
02:33:58.000 And they're probably, yeah, that looks like they're probably running in parallel.
02:34:01.000 220,000 GPUs at 128 each would be like 5 million gigabytes.
02:34:10.000 I'm running 128 consumer.
02:34:13.000 5 million.
02:34:14.000 That's the quantum.
02:34:17.000 That's actually the question I was going to have because I mean, this is not necessarily my field, but what if they could combine quantum computing with this?
02:34:24.000 Like, that really becomes a thing where there's no limit, that it can think in every direction all at the same time, overlapping.
02:34:32.000 It would be scary.
02:34:34.000 I mean, I don't know if that's possible, but maybe it's more your field.
02:34:38.000 But imagine if it's not about chips anymore.
02:34:40.000 Maybe it's about just a full blown quantum computer that can do everything.
02:34:44.000 Because I've heard that that's at least along the way.
02:34:47.000 I mean, maybe they already have it.
02:34:49.000 Isn't the projection that.
02:34:50.000 You would have to go through AI to get to quantum.
02:34:52.000 Like, we're probably not going to solve it on our own, but potentially an AI would be able to develop it on its own.
02:34:57.000 I don't know.
02:34:58.000 I don't know too much about it.
02:34:59.000 Publicly disclosed?
02:35:00.000 No.
02:35:01.000 They have not disclosed any use of quantum.
02:35:03.000 We have to keep chugging along here.
02:35:05.000 Brian, you got any thoughts on all this?
02:35:07.000 Any final thoughts?
02:35:08.000 No.
02:35:09.000 Great discussion.
02:35:10.000 I also want to shout out a Discord user, Dr. Pants.
02:35:15.000 He is a drone pilot, he sometimes flies.
02:35:21.000 Or he'll run a simulation in the Discord.
02:35:23.000 You can watch him fly different types of drones, and he has a lot of expertise in that.
02:35:28.000 So just shout out Dr. Pants, Dr. HD in 40k and drone.
02:35:34.000 That's sick.
02:35:35.000 That is awesome.
02:35:36.000 So, all right.
02:35:36.000 This is Claude's not being trained on quantum computers, but that quantum computing companies have used Claude to stabilize lasers and neural and neutral atom quantum hardware.
02:35:46.000 I don't know a lot about quantum computation, but it is being used to guide quantum computation.
02:35:51.000 Next up, we got.
02:35:52.000 Patrick of Ohio.
02:35:53.000 Patrick of Ohio.
02:35:53.000 That's right.
02:35:55.000 Patrick.
02:35:56.000 Welcome to Timcast IRL.
02:35:59.000 We're listening.
02:36:00.000 What's going on?
02:36:00.000 It's good to be back.
02:36:00.000 Hi.
02:36:02.000 Good to be back.
02:36:02.000 Glad you're back.
02:36:03.000 Welcome back.
02:36:04.000 Welcome back.
02:36:05.000 Ohio is great.
02:36:06.000 The best state in the nation, let me tell you.
02:36:08.000 I love Ohio.
02:36:08.000 I think it's fantastic.
02:36:10.000 You like Ohio?
02:36:11.000 I'm from Ohio.
02:36:11.000 Yeah.
02:36:13.000 I heard about that Teranium 7 chip.
02:36:15.000 I think they developed it at Cornell.
02:36:18.000 Oh, Teranium.
02:36:23.000 That was awesome.
02:36:23.000 Pretty good.
02:36:25.000 So I can pivot to Taylor Swift.
02:36:29.000 I think she's trying to create another pandemic.
02:36:34.000 So my friend Mr. Weld told me the story about how Taylor Swift dropped this new Patient Zero song on the same day that there was a leak from the lab somewhere in Siberia.
02:36:48.000 At least that's what they say.
02:36:49.000 I don't know.
02:36:50.000 You know, that's what they tell us.
02:36:52.000 And He's conveniently the same day, and it was like exactly the woman that got it died like six years, six months, and six days from when they locked us down for the pandemic.
02:37:06.000 Is this like fate?
02:37:09.000 What's going on here?
02:37:10.000 Yeah, it seems.
02:37:12.000 I mean, I'm usually pretty dismissive of these, like, oh, well, you know, he referenced such and such event in a song, and the 9 11 happened today.
02:37:21.000 This one is like a little like this is kind of on the nose.
02:37:24.000 I don't know.
02:37:26.000 You know, you'd almost hope it's not a pandemic because otherwise, I think people would go after Taylor Swift.
02:37:30.000 I think people would be quite upset with her, to say the least.
02:37:35.000 I don't know what you guys think.
02:37:39.000 I think these tensors are.
02:37:41.000 I'm sorry, I'm reading about math and quantum physics.
02:37:43.000 What were you saying?
02:37:45.000 Taylor Swift potentially letting the cat out of the bag, the globalist plan to deploy a new.
02:37:51.000 Yet again, she's front and center.
02:37:53.000 Leave it to Taylor Swift to show up just when you need it.
02:37:56.000 They always tell us before they're going to do it.
02:37:59.000 Often.
02:38:00.000 I mean, if you think about in time, right, all the intelligence communities and so forth, they always game it beforehand.
02:38:07.000 So why not tell us as it happens?
02:38:10.000 Hey, we're going to put it out with one of the most popular, well known pop stars there is.
02:38:16.000 And we're going to talk about the new, you know, mnemonic plague.
02:38:19.000 I wonder if that's because if people hear about it just once, there's a shock and you don't know.
02:38:24.000 Yeah, you don't know how they're going to react.
02:38:25.000 But if you can get them ready for it for a month and make sure they get a little negative scare in there, then when they hear about it for real, it's like, oh God.
02:38:33.000 Think of the original COVID timeline when you first started hearing about it to when the shit hit the fan.
02:38:38.000 It was like probably about five months, right?
02:38:39.000 It was around now ish in 2020.
02:38:43.000 Maybe it was a little earlier 19, September.
02:38:45.000 But then real insanity started kicking in in like January, February.
02:38:48.000 Of 20 videos from China and people dropping, and then he started really sticking it in there.
02:38:52.000 Yeah.
02:38:53.000 Yeah.
02:38:53.000 So, I mean, I think this is late to affect the mid.
02:38:55.000 Well, maybe not too late to affect the mid.
02:38:57.000 The next two weeks are going to be interesting.
02:38:59.000 I think COVID popped up on my radar.
02:39:00.000 Yeah.
02:39:01.000 Like right around Thanksgiving, Christmas.
02:39:03.000 Yeah.
02:39:04.000 Because it started, I think, in March.
02:39:05.000 COVID.
02:39:06.000 Yeah.
02:39:06.000 I mean, my take is that COVID was intent, an intentional bioweapon experiment on the population, whereas this is probably just a lab leak.
02:39:14.000 Like they're like, oh shit.
02:39:15.000 But the COVID was actually, they were planning on poisoning the population to experiment with mRNA and see how it worked.
02:39:20.000 And, I think.
02:39:22.000 I mean, it doesn't seem like an accident.
02:39:23.000 I was in the free state of Florida at the time.
02:39:26.000 I was in the free state of Florida at the time.
02:39:28.000 It was shut down for like two weeks and that was it.
02:39:30.000 And then it was just like back to normal.
02:39:32.000 New York.
02:39:33.000 I remember there was like hazmat suits in my university.
02:39:35.000 For like a year.
02:39:36.000 And we're sitting in Florida going, What are these crazy people doing now?
02:39:39.000 Because nobody's done.
02:39:40.000 Why?
02:39:41.000 Because we're all out in the sunshine.
02:39:42.000 I eventually built it.
02:39:42.000 Yeah.
02:39:43.000 Everybody was healthy.
02:39:44.000 I just went down to Texas for a few months.
02:39:45.000 Yeah.
02:39:46.000 Family down there.
02:39:46.000 I was like, I can't.
02:39:47.000 This is terrible.
02:39:48.000 I mean, and like that's the crazy thing is so many cities, it's like night and day before and after COVID.
02:39:53.000 It's like Florida, Texas.
02:39:55.000 Like a lot of it is just straight trajectory up, but you go to some place.
02:39:58.000 Like New York was a pretty pleasant place in 2019, to be honest.
02:40:01.000 Yeah.
02:40:02.000 It is not that way anymore.
02:40:04.000 It's not even necessarily Memdani.
02:40:06.000 It's just like something happened to the soul of the city during COVID.
02:40:09.000 And it left.
02:40:10.000 Yeah.
02:40:10.000 I went to Florida.
02:40:11.000 Oh, yeah.
02:40:12.000 I went to Florida and Texas.
02:40:13.000 Like everybody migrated.
02:40:14.000 All the last kind of native New Yorkers that were still hanging around got shaken out after COVID.
02:40:14.000 Yeah.
02:40:18.000 And the ones that remained are like have battered wife syndrome because they're like NYPD or something.
02:40:23.000 Yeah.
02:40:23.000 Battered government syndrome.
02:40:24.000 Battered, which is, you know, I'm not saying there's a pejorative.
02:40:24.000 Yeah.
02:40:24.000 Battered.
02:40:26.000 It's just like, True, like they do not want to be there, but they have to because their jobs.
02:40:29.000 You remember the murder hornets?
02:40:31.000 They try to make a big thing of it.
02:40:33.000 Oh, yeah, and that's what I like.
02:40:34.000 He was talking about, like, you only see it once or twice.
02:40:36.000 Like, everybody looked at murder hornets, like, so what?
02:40:40.000 And it just died.
02:40:41.000 And, like, it's one of those they couldn't get it to stick.
02:40:43.000 And I think that that's part of the whole idea is you have to have these psyops where you push this out to people to get them to accept it.
02:40:51.000 Otherwise, if I don't see people dying in my sort of circle, I don't care.
02:40:57.000 Like, I'm not going to pay attention to it if I see videos of people dying in the street.
02:41:00.000 Cause I, that, that was for, I would say that I was concerned about COVID for about three days of the entire thing.
02:41:07.000 I really didn't care at all, didn't want to hear about it.
02:41:10.000 And it was after I watched those videos from China and I'm like, oh my God, this is going to be really.
02:41:13.000 And then I'm sitting there going, okay, well, I'm doing the math on the numbers.
02:41:16.000 I'm going, I don't know.
02:41:18.000 It's, it, it just seems like the flu is killing people like normal.
02:41:22.000 And nobody I'm seeing is really getting all that sick.
02:41:25.000 And old people die.
02:41:28.000 What are we talking about here?
02:41:29.000 And it just, at that point, and then I went down to Florida, I just didn't care anymore.
02:41:32.000 I was like, whatever.
02:41:33.000 And I was just so tired.
02:41:34.000 And so people experienced it very differently because if you were in New York or New Jersey or Massachusetts or somewhere, you know, all hell was breaking loose.
02:41:44.000 And then in other states, it's like, what's going on?
02:41:47.000 What's, you know, it was very, very different.
02:41:48.000 I got lucky.
02:41:49.000 I was in Italy in February.
02:41:51.000 And then I was in January going into February.
02:41:54.000 And like I left like a week before it hit Italy.
02:41:56.000 And they like, I would have gotten stuck there for a week.
02:41:57.000 That's right.
02:41:58.000 They were locking people out.
02:41:59.000 I'd probably still be there.
02:42:00.000 Yeah.
02:42:02.000 And that's another place.
02:42:03.000 I've heard people say Rome before and after COVID.
02:42:05.000 It's like too complex.
02:42:06.000 Completely different cities where now it's like the Tunisians and Egyptians running the city.
02:42:11.000 And it's just so depressing.
02:42:12.000 But yeah, I remember like seeing the stuff going on in China.
02:42:15.000 And I went and bought a bunch of puts on the market because I was like, this is going to be printing.
02:42:18.000 You know, everyone's going to die.
02:42:20.000 And then we're like three weeks into COVID and the market's hitting like all time highs.
02:42:23.000 Trump's like, look, this could be bad.
02:42:24.000 I don't know, but we're going to make sure everyone's stock portfolio is hang on.
02:42:27.000 And I just like lost all that money because I was like trying to short the market.
02:42:31.000 It paid at first.
02:42:32.000 And then, yeah, like Trump and Mnuchin locked it.
02:42:35.000 I was thinking how these city dwellers, how traumatized they got.
02:42:38.000 Because my perspective of COVID was I worked from home.
02:42:41.000 And I lived in Maryland, so I didn't go into the city.
02:42:44.000 I flew a few times and it was egregious having to wear that god awful fucking shit diaper on my face for five hours.
02:42:50.000 But the people that lived it and just accepted it, when you accept it, if you accept it, is when it changes you.
02:42:57.000 Like I didn't accept it.
02:42:58.000 I never accepted COVID as a real threat.
02:43:00.000 I would not accept it.
02:43:01.000 Yeah, that does entirely.
02:43:03.000 If it doesn't sink in and you go, oh, there was actually a threat, because I still have people to this day, they're like, oh, it's so dangerous.
02:43:08.000 And I'm not even sure it's real.
02:43:09.000 Like it's one of those, it's just normal.
02:43:12.000 Scenarios and yeah, there may have been a lab leak and maybe some people got sick, but I don't think that the collective of everybody that was dying was not dying from some specific thing, at least in my mind.
02:43:21.000 And that's my opinion, but I was never, I was literally never scared of it except for those first couple days where I was like, Oh, maybe this is bad.
02:43:28.000 It's more than and it's fact based, like co morbidities were 96%.
02:43:32.000 I don't know the numbers.
02:43:33.000 Most people died on the motorcycle and they're like, Yeah, you died with COVID, with COVID counted for COVID deaths.
02:43:39.000 Yes, CNN would run that ticker of how many were dying every day in COVID and.
02:43:44.000 Um, that's why this pandemic is important, whatever is happening in Russia.
02:43:50.000 The reaction of the American people is going to be very important.
02:43:52.000 Oh, yeah, monkey pox make this a big deal.
02:43:54.000 Everyone in this room was petrified of monkey pox because I know what you guys do in private.
02:43:54.000 It's such garbage.
02:43:58.000 Just don't put it in the you get poop in your penis hole, it's it might get infected.
02:44:01.000 Like, what was another one?
02:44:02.000 Yes, the monkey pox, the monkey pox, and then we got a clean asshole, you know.
02:44:06.000 We change it to mpox or mpox was the better way to say it.
02:44:09.000 But this pandemic will be important.
02:44:11.000 How the American people respond if something happens and you get your first case of whatever this flu is in London.
02:44:18.000 And then they're like, and that person was on a flight just yesterday from the way people respond is going to be very important.
02:44:24.000 And if you say right now, I am going to be so afraid that I need the government too, no, just do us all a favor and just lock yourself in.
02:44:31.000 The people that are, who I was bringing up, who I think I traumatized, like really changed because they accepted that they were afraid.
02:44:31.000 Yeah.
02:44:37.000 I think those are the people that this TDS shit where it's like so crazy.
02:44:41.000 How are you still concerned about something like out of your control?
02:44:46.000 And then maybe it changed people.
02:44:47.000 I mean, obviously it changed people.
02:44:48.000 I just don't know to what extent because it's a, I only have one perspective on it.
02:44:52.000 Change people, change cities, change societies.
02:44:54.000 And we have not come back from it yet.
02:44:56.000 I think it changed economies.
02:44:57.000 We shut down big swaths of our economy for a year and change.
02:45:02.000 And then they're like, we have a supply shortage.
02:45:03.000 Well, yeah, for a year and change, we stopped making a lot of stuff.
02:45:06.000 I think things have changed.
02:45:08.000 I think my own psychology, I mean, because I was 19 when COVID hit, I think my own psychology changed.
02:45:12.000 At least the trajectory of my psychology changed dramatically before and after COVID.
02:45:16.000 I was going to say, I think it's changed.
02:45:18.000 I think that people, because there's a lot of people that got that certain thing and.
02:45:24.000 Afterwards, they realized, wow, that did more damage than anything.
02:45:28.000 And I mean, that's truth now.
02:45:29.000 Like, you can look that up.
02:45:31.000 And I think a lot of people are pissed because they were lied to.
02:45:34.000 And once societies recognize that you lied to, they have a smaller base that will believe this now because we got lied to before.
02:45:44.000 And those of us that were saying, hey, look, they're lying and we were the crazy ones aren't going to be the crazy ones anymore.
02:45:51.000 They're going to recognize that we got lied to.
02:45:53.000 They're lied to a lot.
02:45:54.000 There's a type of phenomenon in the human mind where people just think they're being lied to now when they're not.
02:45:59.000 So you got to be careful that you don't.
02:46:01.000 But I agree with you.
02:46:02.000 What did you experience?
02:46:03.000 Because you were 19, still in the formative ages, before and after, what was the two biggest things?
02:46:08.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I just, I presume my trajectory would be the same as my parents or even as, you know, millennials or whatever.
02:46:14.000 And then it just completely got upturned.
02:46:15.000 You know, I was working like three jobs during COVID, that sort of thing, just to make ends meet and whatnot.
02:46:21.000 And yeah, I think it just like dramatically changes your psychology.
02:46:24.000 I think you become more cynical, more like neurotic, I think.
02:46:29.000 Like I was, I was like interested in politics, but I didn't view politics as like existential at all until.
02:46:35.000 Until COVID.
02:46:36.000 I mean, before I like, I guess I was a registered Republican, but I was more concerned with the NBA and playing basketball and that sort of thing.
02:46:44.000 And then afterwards, you're like, oh, I really need to like dial in here.
02:46:47.000 And yeah, because politics, you know, you may not care about politics, but politics is going to care about you because it's going to affect you.
02:46:54.000 Yeah.
02:46:54.000 That's what I try to explain to people is like, for example, I'm working on getting some furniture done with the Amish.
02:47:01.000 The Amish don't care about the internet, they need to care about the internet because the internet controls what 99% of the population at this point.
02:47:08.000 They're on it.
02:47:09.000 So if the masses believe this stuff, they're ultimately, every policy that comes out affects them ultimately.
02:47:16.000 Right.
02:47:17.000 So you can ignore something, you know, as though it's not my problem.
02:47:21.000 And I saw that a lot with younger people.
02:47:23.000 They're just like, it's not really my problem.
02:47:25.000 It will be.
02:47:26.000 It will be.
02:47:27.000 If we don't stop this, it's going to be your problem.
02:47:30.000 Yeah.
02:47:30.000 I think it's absolutely.
02:47:30.000 Yeah.
02:47:31.000 That's why I think about AI too.
02:47:32.000 I want people to be, get more engaged in AI safety, like train with it like it's a gun and just get familiar with it.
02:47:38.000 Well, Patrick of Ohio, do you have any thoughts on this conversation?
02:47:41.000 Any closing thoughts?
02:47:43.000 Thoughts, yes, I had quite a few actually.
02:47:45.000 You guys just kept going like a train, all right.
02:47:48.000 But, um, either way, I thought it was interesting that they let us know that this happened because you know it's Russia and are they the most open and honest about things?
02:47:59.000 I felt like I got COVID like in November, way before they said that COVID was like here in the US because I was really sick and bedridden for like a week and it was like the worst sickness I've had in a long time.
02:48:11.000 And they didn't test for COVID back then, so they would never know.
02:48:15.000 And also, I just recently got pneumonia and a really weird case of pneumonia.
02:48:20.000 It was in the upper lung and it's really awkward.
02:48:22.000 But also, I learned that somebody else in my same town, my friend, got the same thing about a month before I got it.
02:48:31.000 And it was in the upper lung and they didn't know what it was.
02:48:33.000 They had to take a biopsy to me to figure out what it was.
02:48:35.000 I'm a zero on the phone with you.
02:48:37.000 Good Lord.
02:48:39.000 It's your fault.
02:48:40.000 Liberia.
02:48:41.000 What state and actually street are you on in that city?
02:48:45.000 If you could give us your address.
02:48:47.000 We may send some people right now.
02:48:50.000 I heard that from a lot of people, though, that a lot of people got sick before COVID.
02:48:54.000 Like a lot of people.
02:48:55.000 And then they kind of just got over it.
02:48:55.000 Yeah.
02:48:57.000 And then COVID comes into play.
02:49:00.000 Because I was in ground zero.
02:49:02.000 I lived in central Queens.
02:49:04.000 Flushing was right there.
02:49:05.000 And Flushing's because of all the Chinese people were at first hit.
02:49:08.000 Unfortunately, that's true.
02:49:10.000 And I remember like in December, me and I had like six roommates, and we all got this weird, you know, lump in the back, your throat lost our smell and everything.
02:49:17.000 And then I never got COVID after that.
02:49:19.000 So I was like, I think I got it and I got the antibodies from it.
02:49:21.000 None of my friends got it either.
02:49:23.000 And we're like, I wonder if it was a primitive version of COVID.
02:49:26.000 I don't know.
02:49:26.000 It was.
02:49:27.000 Yeah, it probably was.
02:49:28.000 And we knew an old timer that I would get breakfast at his house, and he dropped dead randomly in January.
02:49:34.000 And he had, like, they said it was like pneumonia or respiratory illness.
02:49:37.000 And we were like, that might have just been COVID killing people before we even knew it.
02:49:41.000 COVID and pneumonia at the same time, maybe.
02:49:43.000 They were calling it like bilateral pneumonia or something like that.
02:49:45.000 Pneumonia.
02:49:46.000 Yeah.
02:49:47.000 Well, I'm just saying, I trust the Chinese government.
02:49:50.000 I trust the Russian government.
02:49:52.000 A lot of trust in those governments.
02:49:53.000 They're extremely honest about Chernobyl, really.
02:49:56.000 I just trust all the governments.
02:49:58.000 I mean, this is what's so tragic about the showdown between the U.S. and China.
02:50:01.000 I'm like, I like.
02:50:02.000 Them both so much.
02:50:04.000 I can't pick.
02:50:04.000 They're like children to me.
02:50:06.000 That's with Trump and Kamala.
02:50:07.000 I'm like, they're so good.
02:50:09.000 They've been just no red for a good four years.
02:50:12.000 I'm a big fan of The King.
02:50:14.000 I'm not.
02:50:15.000 Govern me more, baby.
02:50:17.000 Can we get more?
02:50:18.000 Do you have any follow ups, man?
02:50:18.000 Yeah.
02:50:21.000 Oh, yeah.
02:50:23.000 Patrick.
02:50:24.000 I'm good.
02:50:25.000 I'm solid.
02:50:26.000 I added my conspiracy follow up.
02:50:28.000 The second part was the conspiracy.
02:50:28.000 The first part was the joke.
02:50:30.000 And the train keeps going.
02:50:33.000 That's right.
02:50:34.000 Yeah.
02:50:34.000 Well, Patrick, you got anything to shout out for us?
02:50:38.000 Hey, guys, hang on the Discord.
02:50:39.000 Something big's going to happen here soon.
02:50:41.000 We're going to, I think Tim's got some kind of a weird game, like a game that people can play, like a video game.
02:50:46.000 And we're going to showcase on the Discord.
02:50:47.000 So, yeah, make sure to check the announcements on the Discord page for events.
02:50:52.000 And hope to see you hanging around.
02:50:55.000 Thanks, man.
02:50:55.000 He's going to unleash something.
02:50:56.000 You thought COVID was crazy?
02:50:57.000 Wait till you see what Tim on the show is.
02:50:59.000 He's going to be.
02:51:00.000 All right, man.
02:51:01.000 Thank you for calling.
02:51:03.000 We got one more.
02:51:05.000 Plug it in, dude.
02:51:06.000 And this one is Wheezy.
02:51:08.000 Wheezy!
02:51:10.000 What's going on, Wheezy?
02:51:12.000 Hey, guys.
02:51:13.000 Appreciate the opportunity to call in.
02:51:15.000 Thank you for calling in.
02:51:16.000 You're the best.
02:51:17.000 What's going on?
02:51:17.000 Yeah, my question is centered around something we've talked about before.
02:51:21.000 And, you know, global population growth is declining.
02:51:26.000 We've been importing the third world because we've been aborting the first world.
02:51:32.000 We can't keep this up anymore.
02:51:34.000 You know, it would have helped with our Ponzi scheme that we're.
02:51:37.000 Going to have run out in a couple of years.
02:51:41.000 We've always said, you know, you got to make it unthinkable.
02:51:44.000 And how would you go about doing that?
02:51:49.000 To make going about correcting TFR?
02:51:53.000 No, you make abortion unthinkable in our culture.
02:51:58.000 Oh, I haven't even.
02:51:59.000 We're divided on all of our issues.
02:52:00.000 Do we just have to solve the culture war first?
02:52:03.000 We can have an American culture and then.
02:52:05.000 Yeah, there's a lot of problems.
02:52:07.000 I think.
02:52:08.000 Personally, abortion is nested within a larger issue, which is how do people perceive sex?
02:52:15.000 I think that's like the bigger question.
02:52:17.000 Abortion is obviously the nuclear option, but people view sex now as like transactional.
02:52:25.000 Like, birth control preceded abortion.
02:52:27.000 Like, people are just starting to view sex as detached from childbirth.
02:52:31.000 So, I think the only way out of it, unfortunately, isn't like a culture war victory.
02:52:34.000 You're literally going to like socially engineer your way out, where you have to basically.
02:52:39.000 Restore this idea in people's head that sex equals baby.
02:52:44.000 And this is like a problem for people that are pro life.
02:52:47.000 I include myself among those ranks, is like we're always going to be on the back foot because as long as sex is detached from childbirth, it's going to be really hard to have people make that connection in their head that that's what an abortion functionally is.
02:53:01.000 So either we return to a pre birth control society, which I think is unlikely, or we kind of do what we've done so far, which is work out an arrangement where each state or jurisdiction can kind of.
02:53:14.000 Come up with the abortion laws they see fit.
02:53:16.000 And then longer term, yeah, I think you should socially engineer your way out.
02:53:20.000 It's probably going to have to be just making it so unthinkable that you'd want to abort your child, where we can at least eliminate 99% of them insofar as it needs to be in vogue to have kids again.
02:53:32.000 And that's where you can socially engineer your way out.
02:53:34.000 Like you could literally just set up priority parking for pregnant mothers.
02:53:37.000 You know, there's a whole slew of solutions for that.
02:53:41.000 There's always probably going to be abortion on the fringes, you know, with rape and incest and probably health complications.
02:53:53.000 And I'm not sure we'll ever be able to.
02:53:55.000 Fully solve that without passing a super unpopular law.
02:53:59.000 Roe v. Wade hurt us in the midterms four years ago.
02:54:02.000 I just don't think abortion is a winning issue for conservatives right now, which I think everyone here would probably agree.
02:54:08.000 So it's going to be like a long term social engineering project.
02:54:13.000 The problem is we live in four year terms where it's a democracy.
02:54:16.000 So it's a mixture of good news and bad news.
02:54:18.000 I think the good news is it is solvable.
02:54:21.000 The bad news is it's going to require a Pretty Herculean task from the GOP, which they're probably just not up for right now after they have a bad taste in their mouth after how the last election went when abortion was on the ballot, basically.
02:54:38.000 I think a lot of it's out of sight, out of mind, because if you don't see the kid, as soon as the kid's born, it's like, I'm not going to kill that thing.
02:54:45.000 It's a real person.
02:54:46.000 But in the womb, they don't realize it.
02:54:48.000 You know, if you don't see it and like just beating your wife, it used to be cool in the early 1900s, late 1800s.
02:54:53.000 Bitch, shut the fuck.
02:54:55.000 Like that's how life was.
02:54:57.000 Until TV, and then we saw how horrible it was to be that guy, and then men kind of self corrected.
02:55:04.000 And then we turned it into law.
02:55:05.000 I mean, if not, it was already kind of a little bit like it became a big social taboo to beat your wife.
02:55:10.000 Maybe we could do that with abortion if you put neural nets on these kids while they're in the womb so you can communicate with them when they're two months old.
02:55:16.000 A kid is their age begins at conception, they're born, they're already nine months old.
02:55:21.000 I know we say they're zero when they're born, but in reality, they begin at life right at conception.
02:55:27.000 So if you can communicate with it, While it's still gestating and growing, that would, I think, take us a lot closer to not wanting to kill.
02:55:34.000 Yeah, I think that could be a solution.
02:55:36.000 I think, like, you know, the problem is: sex is decoupled from childbirth.
02:55:42.000 That's just an obvious problem.
02:55:45.000 And secondarily, like, in order to have a kid now, you need to want to have one, right?
02:55:49.000 Like, it's basically an expensive hobby.
02:55:51.000 And I mean that with all the respect possible because the way that our market is structured at the moment, it just makes no economic sense whatsoever to have a child.
02:56:01.000 I mean, previously you would have a child because they could help you on the farm or help you with the business or whatever.
02:56:05.000 Now it's just you need to want to have a child.
02:56:08.000 That's why, like, when a couple decides we're going to have a baby, they decide to.
02:56:11.000 They say, I want one.
02:56:13.000 And that's typically immaterial explanations for why they want the child.
02:56:16.000 I want to carry on my legacy, or I just want something around the house, or I've always wanted a baby, et cetera.
02:56:21.000 You need to figure out the key to solving this issue the government in charge has to figure out what is the immaterial draw that people have to having a child.
02:56:32.000 How do we amplify that?
02:56:33.000 How do we strap a booster rocket to that?
02:56:35.000 How do we make it like irresistible for a woman to want to have a child?
02:56:38.000 And that's probably require, once again, a lot of social engineering.
02:56:42.000 If my kid could help me work on the farm, except my farm is growing a bunch of AI brains and vats, if I could attach this kid to a neural net when it's two months in the womb and I communicate with him, the kid already knows English by the time it's born and it knows how to communicate with my computers and I can just set it there and it will command the AIs for me while I'm out of the house working out in the field.
02:57:02.000 Bro, now I'm going to start having kids because they'll actually be able to help.
02:57:05.000 Hop around the house.
02:57:06.000 Yeah, otherwise they just sit there and cost money.
02:57:09.000 This is a whole different level.
02:57:10.000 It's going to come out like just be like a brain, you know, just connected to the AI.
02:57:15.000 You're providing a better solution than half of the pro life lobby in this country.
02:57:19.000 That's true.
02:57:20.000 Actual functional results.
02:57:21.000 I got to stop you.
02:57:22.000 You're cringe.
02:57:23.000 Pro life, we need to kill criminals.
02:57:26.000 Capital punishment, non negotiable.
02:57:29.000 Yeah.
02:57:31.000 My only other contribution to it is a difficult conversation, which is an even more difficult introduction of the conversation some 70% of the abortions in this country are by minority communities.
02:57:42.000 And of that 70%, the overwhelming majority are by underage kids.
02:57:47.000 And so we have a huge cultural issue.
02:57:50.000 Of 14 and 15 and 16 year old black and brown women who are getting impregnated by 14 and 15 and 16 year old women.
02:57:58.000 And we don't even talk about statutory rape.
02:58:00.000 So I don't know how we have a conversation of like the idea that even, and what's crazy is that like the people pushing abortion advocacy are like 35 year old white chicks, but they're not really the ones having the abortions.
02:58:15.000 Like they, it really is Margaret Sanger's like fantasy.
02:58:18.000 Like we are really just like eliminating minority communities.
02:58:22.000 For a white dude who, you know, sitting here to tell black and brown women what to do is a hard conversation.
02:58:29.000 But the biggest problem with abortion in America is that the people getting abortions have such fucked up cultures where it is common for 13 and 14 year old girls to get impregnated and no one bats an eye.
02:58:45.000 No one has a father.
02:58:47.000 No one has a family structure.
02:58:49.000 That is the abortion industry.
02:58:51.000 And that's until we address that.
02:58:55.000 You know, the idea of like 27 year old white girls deciding, you know what, I didn't want to get pregnant this month.
02:59:00.000 That is happening.
02:59:01.000 Sure.
02:59:02.000 But that is a small percentage of abortions.
02:59:04.000 The majority of them are these cases and these cultures that we just ignore completely.
02:59:11.000 And that's a larger conversation you mentioned, you know, which is a great conversation, but would get us all fired.
02:59:16.000 Well, it wouldn't get me fired from our jobs, but it's a tough conversation when you said like the GOP is just making ad upon ad beating up young white men.
02:59:25.000 Like we just all we.
02:59:26.000 Like, how do you have a whole conversation?
02:59:27.000 Because as soon as you say that, it's like, oh, yeah, the poor white guy.
02:59:30.000 Nothing ever works out for your favor.
02:59:33.000 But just as awkward is to say, let's have a tough conversation of the black and brown communities.
02:59:38.000 Because there's some real cultural fucked up issues happening that we just gloss over.
02:59:43.000 Because as soon as you try to talk about it, Kamala throws racism at you.
02:59:47.000 And then it's like, everyone shut the hell up.
02:59:49.000 Racism.
02:59:50.000 As soon as you introduce race, everyone has to shut up and the conversation never dies.
02:59:54.000 No, I think that's really well said.
02:59:55.000 And that's absolutely fundamentally what's going on.
02:59:58.000 Because again, like, when you think of.
03:00:00.000 People that view abortion as just a form of birth control rather than this like tragic, you know, decision that a mother comes to.
03:00:08.000 Like, actually, no, to your point, it is mostly young black, primarily black, actually, and then also brown teenagers and early 20s functionally using it as birth control.
03:00:19.000 It's like a high time preference problem where they're like, I'll just have sex.
03:00:22.000 And if I'm pregnant, no big deal.
03:00:23.000 I'll get an abortion.
03:00:25.000 Where typically with middle aged women, there are some that have, you know, a kill count going eight up plus, but typically it's like one.
03:00:31.000 And it was like, They think about it a lot.
03:00:33.000 It was kind of traumatic to come to that decision because they used birth control and something went wrong.
03:00:37.000 It's again, the poster child of the abortion is like this girl boss, but the girl boss is using birth control.
03:00:43.000 She's probably on three, you know, IUD, probably the pill, you know, a cocktail of her fertility is probably gone.
03:00:50.000 No guy wants to fuck her anyway because she's probably insufferable.
03:00:52.000 Yeah, she's probably insufferable.
03:00:53.000 And her hormones are so off anyway that she probably can't even conceive in the first place.
03:00:57.000 She's rarely getting an abortion.
03:00:59.000 And this is verifiable by data, by the way.
03:01:01.000 It's just another example of like safe, edgy, where it's easy for conservatives to say, Well, it's these girl bosses all getting abortions, and it's like, it's not.
03:01:08.000 No, no, it's just that it's easy to beat up on white women because it's like they're not going to get too offended.
03:01:13.000 They're going to be like, yeah, totally, we're evil.
03:01:16.000 To your point, that's what we're saying about the young white men.
03:01:18.000 It's like easy punching bags when the actual problem, you know, who's racking up the bodies in this instance?
03:01:24.000 Well, you know, it's the people in this community that view it as a form of birth control.
03:01:29.000 And, you know, there's some sort of cosmic ledger that's accounting for all these deaths that are, you know, being stacked up in this country, I imagine.
03:01:38.000 That would be my more esoteric side of my thinking.
03:01:41.000 Could you get to the level that you are the Planned Parenthood and the inner city and a girl comes to you and says, I need the abortion?
03:01:47.000 I'm 14.
03:01:47.000 And you're like, great.
03:01:49.000 Before we have the abortion, we have to find out who impregnated a 14 year old girl.
03:01:54.000 Like, do we ever get to that stage?
03:01:54.000 Right.
03:01:56.000 Or how about we help you plan your parenthood, your incoming parenthood?
03:01:59.000 Like, the name is like, we're helping you plan parenthood.
03:02:02.000 Why would they kill the kid if they're helping you plan parenthood?
03:02:05.000 Well, that's because Margaret's hango is just pure evil.
03:02:07.000 But I just want to know where is the guy who got a 14 year old pregnant?
03:02:11.000 Yeah.
03:02:12.000 No, we didn't even have that conversation.
03:02:14.000 It's because that was an unplanned.
03:02:15.000 They're saying, oh, we only want you to make sure that you're pregnant.
03:02:17.000 Well, I'm sorry.
03:02:18.000 I'm.
03:02:19.000 Dancing around, what you're talking about is true and real.
03:02:21.000 Yeah.
03:02:22.000 That's a real problem.
03:02:24.000 There's a lot of young guys who are banging 14 year old girls and getting away with it routinely.
03:02:31.000 Then what's the purpose of statutory rape laws?
03:02:34.000 They don't exist.
03:02:35.000 It's absolutely.
03:02:35.000 I mean, you go to Memphis, you go to Baltimore, it's happening a lot there.
03:02:39.000 Right now, the white fertility rate is higher than the black fertility rate.
03:02:42.000 Now, does anybody think for a second that the conception rate is the same?
03:02:46.000 I imagine the black conception rate is far higher than the white conception rate, but making it two term.
03:02:53.000 Whites now have the edge.
03:02:54.000 Only considered fertile if it makes it to term.
03:02:57.000 Right.
03:02:57.000 Because that's how they measure it.
03:02:58.000 You know, the child is born.
03:02:59.000 So the misconception.
03:03:00.000 Well, I mean, obviously, if the baby's conceived and then dies in the womb, it's not really a fertility issue.
03:03:00.000 Fertility.
03:03:05.000 So I see where you're.
03:03:06.000 Yeah, TFR is just how many babies per woman.
03:03:08.000 You know, there's another contributor here that you all haven't mentioned.
03:03:12.000 Ease.
03:03:13.000 You can take a pill now.
03:03:14.000 Right.
03:03:15.000 Ease.
03:03:15.000 Ease.
03:03:16.000 Just plain ease.
03:03:18.000 You can take, I believe it's oxytocin.
03:03:20.000 It's massive doses of oxytocin.
03:03:22.000 You take a pill and you have an abortion.
03:03:24.000 Yeah.
03:03:24.000 The morning after pill, the.
03:03:26.000 It's the same principle.
03:03:27.000 If you take like one or two of those or three of them or something like that, you can do the same way.
03:03:31.000 I probably shouldn't put that on air.
03:03:32.000 No one even knows.
03:03:33.000 No, it's true.
03:03:34.000 No one even knows.
03:03:35.000 It's public info.
03:03:36.000 But that's just it.
03:03:37.000 It's gotten so easy.
03:03:38.000 You take a pill, you have some cramps, it's done.
03:03:40.000 Yeah.
03:03:41.000 Yeah.
03:03:42.000 That's obviously early stages, not late stages, but same principles.
03:03:46.000 It's not.
03:03:46.000 Yeah.
03:03:47.000 Ease Healthcare is a reproductive health service app.
03:03:50.000 No, not.
03:03:51.000 He's saying it's easy.
03:03:52.000 No, like.
03:03:52.000 No, no, no.
03:03:53.000 It's easy.
03:03:53.000 Ease of being able to get into it.
03:03:55.000 Oh, like plan B.
03:03:56.000 And just.
03:03:56.000 Don't.
03:03:57.000 I thought they renamed a new one called MEs.
03:03:59.000 After you're already pregnant, and I believe it's just a higher dosage.
03:04:03.000 It's the same thing.
03:04:04.000 It just tricks your body into thinking you're in pregnancy, so it aborts itself.
03:04:08.000 But that's only for like a certain period of time.
03:04:11.000 Then once it becomes formed enough, it won't work.
03:04:14.000 Then they actually have to do the procedure.
03:04:16.000 Yeah, we have like over the counter pharmaceuticals that have like supplanted the coat hanger abortion.
03:04:21.000 Not to be crass here, but that's absolutely what's going on.
03:04:23.000 Yeah, you can take Plan B like in the first trimester, substantial, like.
03:04:27.000 Three or four of them, and it will do the same thing.
03:04:29.000 Yeah.
03:04:30.000 Yeah.
03:04:30.000 It's, it's pretty, it's pretty insane.
03:04:32.000 I'm not suggesting anybody, anyone.
03:04:34.000 This is all public.
03:04:35.000 You're not saying it.
03:04:36.000 Right.
03:04:36.000 But at the same time, I don't want anybody to take that.
03:04:38.000 That is not a good plan.
03:04:40.000 I think it's like you do want to change the minds of people because forcing other people at gunpoint to have babies they don't want is like, yo, bro, I don't give a fuck what you do over there, to be honest.
03:04:51.000 But I want you to want to raise your child.
03:04:54.000 I don't, I don't want you to kill it.
03:04:55.000 But if you, I don't give a fuck if you kill your kid, who the fuck are you?
03:04:58.000 You don't, You don't bother me.
03:04:59.000 You, you, me, me.
03:05:00.000 We have our own different lives.
03:05:02.000 So I don't want to like bring down the hammer on these people.
03:05:05.000 I'd rather not.
03:05:06.000 And that's why I think social contagion is a better trajectory.
03:05:10.000 I actually got a good quick fix, right?
03:05:13.000 Probably not realistic.
03:05:14.000 Quick fix.
03:05:15.000 If you go in for an abortion, you can do that.
03:05:17.000 You flip a coin.
03:05:18.000 If it's heads, you die.
03:05:20.000 If it's tails, the baby dies.
03:05:23.000 Watch how fast everything changes going.
03:05:25.000 Yeah, I'm not going to do that.
03:05:27.000 You're not going to pay money to change the odds.
03:05:28.000 You're like, for $10,000, you have a 60% chance or 70, nearly.
03:05:33.000 But if you pay a whole nine, you've got a 98% chance that it won't be you.
03:05:36.000 Yeah, it's a really complicated conversation.
03:05:39.000 But, Wheezy, do you have any thoughts here?
03:05:42.000 Have we missed anything?
03:05:43.000 Is there a blind spot we waltzed over?
03:05:47.000 No, I think you're directionally true over all the right spots.
03:05:50.000 But one thing I would point out is there is no shortage of people wanting to adopt newborns.
03:05:56.000 It's correct.
03:05:57.000 Anytime there's correction, like people talk about adoption issues, it's like young children who have been through terrible things.
03:06:07.000 They need parents who can deal with that.
03:06:09.000 Yeah, there's a surplus of adoptive parents for newborns.
03:06:12.000 That's true.
03:06:13.000 Yep.
03:06:13.000 I'm not telling the 14 year old you have to carry that child or raise that child.
03:06:19.000 But the fire station is there.
03:06:22.000 Just that route is significantly less evil.
03:06:27.000 And, you know, it's almost got to be to a point where it's like a fault abortion.
03:06:34.000 And in the way we used to have fault divorce, like there are crimes.
03:06:39.000 If those were the only instances, like the rate would be far, far lower.
03:06:39.000 Yes.
03:06:46.000 But we allow more than that.
03:06:50.000 Yeah, I would like to shout out the person who I think could actually do more for this conversation, and that's Russell from Abolitionist Rising.
03:06:59.000 I believe I mentioned Tim spoke about him on one of his videos last week.
03:07:03.000 I think he would be a phenomenal guest.
03:07:05.000 He's the one, and he's in Canada, right?
03:07:07.000 And he has the sign, and there's always people.
03:07:09.000 I don't think he's a Canadian, but if he is, he's a pretty decent person.
03:07:13.000 Get him on the show, Billboard Chris.
03:07:15.000 Because no, not Billboard Chris, you need to write it down.
03:07:18.000 What's that guy's name?
03:07:19.000 I follow him.
03:07:20.000 He's uh, yeah, Abolitionist Rising.
03:07:23.000 I think he's Canadian, which is.
03:07:25.000 You know, even crazy, I think that's explains why he's getting so many crazy people in his videos.
03:07:29.000 That he's fantastic because he's like, um, really mellow, like, he is not inflammatory at all.
03:07:36.000 Like, these people come up to him and they're screaming at him, and he's like, Well, I don't know, like, what's your position?
03:07:40.000 They don't have one, they're just he's fantastic.
03:07:43.000 Yeah, is he pro life activist?
03:07:45.000 Is that his main gig?
03:07:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's really good.
03:07:48.000 I think he'd be awesome to have on the show.
03:07:49.000 Thanks.
03:07:50.000 I'm gonna send the message along to our producer.
03:07:52.000 Yeah, perfect.
03:07:53.000 Yes, please.
03:07:54.000 Yeah, he's great.
03:07:56.000 I totally endorse.
03:07:58.000 Thanks, man.
03:07:59.000 Well, sweet, Weezy.
03:08:00.000 Well, thank you for calling in.
03:08:04.000 Yeah, thank you, sir.
03:08:04.000 Oh, he's been able to take it.
03:08:06.000 I'm out.
03:08:06.000 He's out.
03:08:07.000 I drop.
03:08:07.000 I love it.
03:08:08.000 Well, with that, thank you so much for joining us today.
03:08:12.000 Thank you for coming in, Daniel.
03:08:12.000 Thank you for having me.
03:08:13.000 It was a hoot.
03:08:14.000 Thank you for clutching up and popping in last second.
03:08:16.000 Always a pleasure.
03:08:17.000 Well, until then, Daniel.
03:08:19.000 Ian Carter.
03:08:20.000 Great work as always.
03:08:21.000 Absolute.
03:08:22.000 Gentlemen.
03:08:22.000 You as well.
03:08:23.000 And we'll be back tomorrow for Timcast IRL.
03:08:26.000 Do we know?
03:08:27.000 Do we have the list here?
03:08:28.000 Yeah, let me pull it up and see, Rash.
03:08:30.000 We got to see who's on the list.
03:08:31.000 Come on.
03:08:31.000 Come on.
03:08:32.000 Well, it was right there.
03:08:34.000 That's not the one, though.
03:08:35.000 That is also not it, but here it is.
03:08:37.000 It is this guy, Josh Anderson.
03:08:42.000 Josh Anderson is on tomorrow.
03:08:44.000 I love Josh.
03:08:45.000 I'm not familiar with Josh.
03:08:47.000 Maybe if I've seen him.
03:08:48.000 I think I know of him.
03:08:50.000 Josh Anderson.
03:08:51.000 Well, it's going to be a great show regardless.
03:08:53.000 He's coming in tomorrow.
03:08:54.000 It's going to be fantastic.
03:08:55.000 So thank you very much for watching, guys.
03:08:56.000 See you tomorrow.