Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 01, 2026


Russia Declares For Iran In WAR Against U.S. WW3 Fears Escalate | Timcast IRL


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00:02:36.000 We got some big news tonight.
00:02:38.000 Vladimir Putin has pledged support to Iran in their war against the United States.
00:02:43.000 There's a new report that they've been helping manufacture hypersonic missiles for the country, but we've known for a minute that they were arming the Iranians against the United States.
00:02:52.000 We've also seen this with China.
00:02:54.000 When a strange cargo flight came into Iran last year, it looks like China was supplying the Iranians with materials they could use to make missiles to use against the United States, of course.
00:03:06.000 More rhetoric about World War III is emerging.
00:03:09.000 And it's a slow burn, isn't it?
00:03:11.000 It's gradually, then suddenly, they say.
00:03:13.000 So maybe we're already in it.
00:03:16.000 A bunch of news outlets have already claimed we may be in World War III, but they've been saying that for over a year, so who knows?
00:03:23.000 I guess we'll find out when the nukes start flying through the air, but we'll talk about that.
00:03:27.000 But we did just get breaking news just before going live.
00:03:30.000 The judge in the Robinson hearing has ruled he must stand trial for capital murder in the Charlie Kirk assassination case.
00:03:38.000 And he is eligible for the death penalty.
00:03:40.000 So we are going to cover that.
00:03:42.000 We got a bunch of other big fun stories throughout the day, of course.
00:03:45.000 Flock cameras banned on highways in Florida.
00:03:48.000 The debate over flock cameras, with seemingly and strangely many figures on the right now coming out in defense of flock.
00:03:55.000 I'm going to just, maybe I shouldn't be so biased right off the rip, but terrible arguments that seem to be fake.
00:04:01.000 I'll just put it like that because, you know, the arguments against flock cameras are pretty straightforward.
00:04:06.000 So we got that to talk about and more.
00:04:08.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Jesse on fire.
00:04:12.000 Thank you for having me, good sir.
00:04:13.000 Who are you?
00:04:13.000 What do you do?
00:04:14.000 Oh, I'm Jesse on fire.
00:04:16.000 Well, Jesse Merle, host of the Jesse on fire show.
00:04:19.000 I do what most of us do.
00:04:21.000 I talk about this kind of stuff.
00:04:23.000 I do a couple videos a day covering the Charlie Kirk case, I've been covering all this stuff.
00:04:27.000 Flock, I'm excited to talk about because I learned some new stuff yesterday.
00:04:30.000 And if we get a chance to talk about that AI breaking out, I would love to talk about it.
00:04:34.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:35.000 The swarm that attacked Hugging Face.
00:04:36.000 I mean, there's more than just that, too.
00:04:37.000 Yeah, that is one of the craziest.
00:04:40.000 Ian and I were talking about that earlier.
00:04:41.000 It's just like, I just don't think people understand what that actually is.
00:04:44.000 Like the implications of that story, you know.
00:04:46.000 But it's not even the first time there's been a breakout.
00:04:48.000 No, yeah.
00:04:49.000 It's just this one was criminal.
00:04:50.000 Yep.
00:04:51.000 Yeah.
00:04:51.000 It's just more proof that they have their own mind and sometimes their objectives may run up against humans and they're just going to ignore the ethics.
00:05:01.000 What people don't understand is they think that AI right now is a program.
00:05:06.000 And I've only learned a lot of this stuff recently.
00:05:07.000 It's not a program.
00:05:09.000 It is, we are tuning into something, a frequency.
00:05:14.000 The people developing AI don't know exactly how.
00:05:17.000 The quote unquote digital neurons fire it and how they create these results.
00:05:21.000 All they know is it's creating results they like, so they keep amplifying it.
00:05:26.000 So we may be building something that could destroy us.
00:05:30.000 But we'll talk about that and more.
00:05:31.000 Of course, the boys are hanging out.
00:05:32.000 Yes, yes.
00:05:34.000 I got a bunch of password resets today.
00:05:36.000 Some, maybe it was an AI.
00:05:37.000 It was all over X, right?
00:05:38.000 That happened to me too.
00:05:39.000 Dude, I get this every night.
00:05:41.000 Like somebody tries to steal my Gmail account and they're like, was this you?
00:05:45.000 I'm like, no.
00:05:45.000 And they're like, okay, well, they didn't use your password, so you're good.
00:05:47.000 This was all, this was a bunch.
00:05:49.000 X today, everybody was like, some, Someone was trying to like just mass attack or something.
00:05:53.000 It may be China because we just saw that bot network just exposed, and now you're getting what hundreds of people saying that people are trying to hack them.
00:06:01.000 That does not seem like Google Maps rerouting me yesterday.
00:06:04.000 I don't know.
00:06:05.000 Yeah, sometimes it'll turn you around.
00:06:06.000 It's been turning me around.
00:06:07.000 Sometimes the magnets will go off and it will only show.
00:06:09.000 You've been snorting graphene again, Ian?
00:06:11.000 No, no, no.
00:06:11.000 I think I'm just tapping into what they're laying down, man.
00:06:15.000 Uh huh.
00:06:15.000 It might be an AI.
00:06:16.000 Tapping into it.
00:06:17.000 No, actually, I have been snorting graphene.
00:06:18.000 It comes when you burn a fire, the part of the smoke, there's graphene in the smoke, and I've been lighting a lot of fire.
00:06:23.000 You should definitely.
00:06:23.000 Cool.
00:06:25.000 If you have X money, you should have two factor authorization on your X account.
00:06:30.000 And it's not a bad idea to have a good password.
00:06:33.000 Like, if your password is password or like, you know, HJKL semicolon, you should probably.
00:06:40.000 I don't think they let you do that anymore.
00:06:41.000 Thank God.
00:06:42.000 It's actually getting really annoying.
00:06:44.000 You kind of hear it.
00:06:44.000 Where it's like you try to log in, it's like your password's wrong and you try to get it to work.
00:06:48.000 And then you are like, okay, forgot my password.
00:06:50.000 Then you type in your password, the same password, thinking I'll just make it the one I know.
00:06:53.000 And then it goes, you can't use the same password.
00:06:55.000 And you're like, but that one wasn't working.
00:06:57.000 Too many attempts.
00:06:57.000 Too many attempts.
00:06:59.000 I use a password manager.
00:07:00.000 It's worth it.
00:07:01.000 Like, get some weird, crazy password that nobody's going to guess.
00:07:06.000 Especially if you've got X money, like most people that have X money.
00:07:08.000 Sometimes it doesn't record it, though.
00:07:10.000 I say yes, and then when I go to it, I'm like, I know I used it, and I have to reset it.
00:07:15.000 Did you guys also see there's a conspiracy theory that the flood was not a yokel hops?
00:07:21.000 It was a strike on a dam intentionally done.
00:07:24.000 It was an attack in the region.
00:07:26.000 It's a conspiracy theory.
00:07:27.000 I'm not saying there's any evidence, but a bunch of people are talking about it because now this is true.
00:07:32.000 China has been deleting a bunch of videos and censoring information on the floods.
00:07:36.000 How very Chinese.
00:07:36.000 And so when the flood first happened, they were like, oh, it's a yokel hops, right?
00:07:41.000 The glacier cracks and then it caused a massive flood, which happens.
00:07:44.000 There's a word for it.
00:07:45.000 A bunch of accounts started posting, actually, this was an attack on China or by China or something that was intentionally done by blowing up a dam, which caused this huge flood.
00:07:56.000 And then I saw these videos all over Instagram.
00:07:59.000 Then, of course, you see this report that's coming out today where it's like China's begun to censor information related to the flood.
00:08:04.000 So who knows?
00:08:05.000 We'll talk about that.
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00:09:28.000 Let's start with this.
00:09:28.000 This news actually just broke.
00:09:31.000 And so normally, you know, we directly lead with it because this is particularly relevant right now.
00:09:37.000 We've got this from the post millennial.
00:09:39.000 Judge rules Tyler Robinson must stand trial for capital murder in Charlie Kirk's assassination, eligible for the death penalty.
00:09:48.000 Viewed in the light most favorable to the prosecution, this evidence is sufficient at this stage to support a reasonable belief that defendant is the individual who shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
00:09:57.000 Accordingly, the state has demonstrated probable cause as to the identity and homicide elements of count one.
00:10:04.000 Graff said count one is aggravated murder and brings with it a death penalty if convicted.
00:10:09.000 As to count two, felony discharge of firearm causing serious bodily injury, Graff ruled that probable cause had been established.
00:10:16.000 Utah prosecutors asked that Robinson be tried for count one, aggravated murder, a capital offense, together with the state's victim targeting notice.
00:10:23.000 Count two, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, a first degree felony.
00:10:28.000 Counts three and four, obstruction of justice.
00:10:30.000 Second degree felonies.
00:10:31.000 Counts five and six, tampering with the witness, third degree felonies, and count seven, violent offense committed in the presence of a child, Graff said.
00:10:38.000 Graff read out the events of September 10, 2025, on the Utah Valley University campus where Kirk was speaking with students.
00:10:45.000 He tracked through the movements of Robinson on campus, which had been well documented.
00:10:49.000 In addition to that timeline, Graff walked through the electronic communications between Robinson and Lance Twiggs, his roommate and boyfriend.
00:10:56.000 Prosecutor Ryan McBride delivered the closing arguments for the state.
00:11:00.000 Your Honor, on September 10, 2025, the defendant, this man Tyler Robinson, shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
00:11:04.000 Because he disagreed with them, and he did it by firing a high powered rifle into a crowd of over 3,000 people, which created a great risk of death.
00:11:12.000 There are many, many more quotes, but I think we got the picture here.
00:11:15.000 One of the other big stories was that the defense argued that Charlie Kirk was spreading hate against the LGBTQ community, et cetera.
00:11:23.000 So I'm not going to say this is surprising to anybody.
00:11:26.000 It's the latest development.
00:11:28.000 But big news that it will be going to trial, and we knew it was going to.
00:11:33.000 We knew that this was going to be the way it went.
00:11:35.000 Whatever you think, conspiracy or otherwise, I think everybody agreed this is the track that we're going to be on.
00:11:39.000 I thought it was.
00:11:41.000 You've been studying it more than anybody, I think.
00:11:42.000 Yeah, I mean, there's, of course, there's enough for a trial.
00:11:45.000 And what exactly did the defense say about Charlie spreading hate?
00:11:49.000 Like, were they.
00:11:50.000 I watched the.
00:11:51.000 There's a short video.
00:11:52.000 Let me see if I can pull it up.
00:11:53.000 I'll pull it up.
00:11:54.000 Our defense is.
00:11:55.000 Everybody was blowing up on X. They're like, how dare you?
00:11:58.000 I mean, that's one of the things that infuriates still me more than anything is when people misrepresent things that he said.
00:12:05.000 Like when AOC, like, you know, eight days after he got shot, went in front of Congress when they were trying to.
00:12:11.000 Make the resolution that they were all going to condemn what happened, and then she acted as though Charlie's issue with the Civil Rights Act was that black people were given the right to do what they do.
00:12:21.000 Insane.
00:12:23.000 I've talked with so many libs where they're like, Charlie said he was scared of black pilots.
00:12:26.000 Absurd.
00:12:27.000 I said, No, you're lying.
00:12:29.000 Kirk spoke hatefully of certain groups of people.
00:12:33.000 Not true.
00:12:33.000 He spoke hatefully of people who don't have traditional, norm conforming gender identities.
00:12:43.000 He spoke hatefully of people who are not strictly heterosexual.
00:12:48.000 He spoke hatefully of people who have sexual relationships out of marriage.
00:12:53.000 And yes, it is true that the evidence from Mr. Twiggs is that he identified in a non-gender conforming way to his friends and that he was in a romantic relationship with Mr. Robinson.
00:13:10.000 But that doesn't mean that those, Personal choices by Mr. Twiggs and by Mr. Robinson equate with the hate that at least Mr. Robinson says he had toward Mr. Kirk.
00:13:25.000 So we don't know what that is.
00:13:28.000 We don't know.
00:13:29.000 There's a gap between what it is that Mr. Kirk said and stood for, the phrase in the statute is political expression, and what it is that Mr. Robinson felt about him.
00:13:43.000 And it's a significant gap because what it Allows the state to do is to make it up.
00:13:48.000 Oh, it must be about this relationship.
00:13:51.000 It must be.
00:13:52.000 It can't be about foreign policy.
00:13:54.000 It can't be about immigration.
00:13:56.000 It can't be about taxation or economics.
00:13:59.000 It must be about this because look at these two young people and the way they live.
00:14:05.000 Is he talking like he's just saying Tyler shot him?
00:14:10.000 That's his defense attorney?
00:14:11.000 Because that sounds like he's like, yeah, Tyler shot him, but we don't know why.
00:14:14.000 Well, that's been their whole thing the whole time.
00:14:16.000 But he shouldn't get the death penalty.
00:14:19.000 That's been effectively the argument.
00:14:21.000 They've not argued, this was misconstrued a bit in their initial filing saying that people were saying that they're admitting to killing Charlie, but it doesn't warrant the death penalty because he shot one guy and killed one guy.
00:14:32.000 They argued if the evidence presented is true, it does not rise to a death penalty.
00:14:37.000 They weren't saying, but I am confused.
00:14:41.000 I mean, that verbiage sounded like.
00:14:43.000 What was that?
00:14:44.000 They're not going to be able to.
00:14:47.000 Yeah, he never did it.
00:14:48.000 It's the wrong guy.
00:14:49.000 That's the only time I've ever heard it where that sounded very much like he.
00:14:53.000 I'm like, that's a defense attorney.
00:14:54.000 Why?
00:14:54.000 And also, why are you trying to establish motive if you are defending the guy who's accused of the crime?
00:15:01.000 I was saying that South Park answer is the Chewbacca defense.
00:15:04.000 I'm also, yeah, the Chewbacca.
00:15:05.000 That's what that reminds me of.
00:15:07.000 But I'm curious because it's from what we know right now, the trial is going to be a farce.
00:15:12.000 And I want y'all to listen to what I'm about to say because I don't want it to be taken one way or the other by those who think it's going to go.
00:15:18.000 I'm saying if the defense is basically like, yeah, he did it, why are we having a trial?
00:15:23.000 To establish motive, it sounds like.
00:15:25.000 No, this is pointless.
00:15:27.000 Because.
00:15:27.000 I don't personally think it matters why.
00:15:29.000 I mean, to a point, it matters why, if it's self defense, for instance, but it's more about what.
00:15:34.000 If it's like a mitigating factor, but that's after you're convicted.
00:15:38.000 So, like, I'm looking at what he did.
00:15:40.000 It's not about why he did what he did.
00:15:42.000 It's probably because he is up for the death penalty.
00:15:47.000 So they have to find out if it was, you know, they have to find out what aggravating factors.
00:15:47.000 Yeah.
00:15:51.000 They have to find out, you know, if he is a candidate for the death penalty because it's a possible punishment, but.
00:15:56.000 I suppose that makes sense.
00:15:59.000 The trial is going to.
00:16:00.000 So the jury can say whether he goes to.
00:16:02.000 Prison for life or dies.
00:16:03.000 And if a differentiator for aggravated murder is the potential that he could have shot and killed other people, I don't even understand how that, if that, I haven't read it like word for word, but if that is what differentiates, I don't even know how you would argue against it.
00:16:17.000 I don't know what, I don't know what Utah law is.
00:16:20.000 And the judge agreed.
00:16:22.000 Yeah.
00:16:22.000 It's super weird.
00:16:23.000 Yeah.
00:16:24.000 It's like we're defending him by admitting he did it.
00:16:24.000 Yeah.
00:16:27.000 Nothing in this case makes sense.
00:16:29.000 The fact that Lance Twiggs, the roommate who is absolutely critical and core to every single piece of physical evidence, was given immediately.
00:16:36.000 Immediate immunity is where I'm like, I've always had my eye on that guy because I'm like, he has access to his Discord, he has access to his cell phone.
00:16:45.000 The text messages were written at 11 30 p.m.
00:16:49.000 Tyler wakes up at 6 in the morning every single morning and then gets up and goes.
00:16:54.000 He had access to the devices that's more likely that Tyler probably would have been asleep at 11 30.
00:16:58.000 So maybe Lance could have had it.
00:16:59.000 It's just like, that's weird.
00:17:02.000 There's also a question that's not been answered.
00:17:04.000 Maybe you can shed some light on this.
00:17:07.000 The meeting at Robinson's home, some couple weeks before, and the foreknowledge that we saw from people posting on social media that seems to have just fallen off of this case without being addressed.
00:17:17.000 Yeah, that came up on the green room so much.
00:17:20.000 Maybe the FBI's got data they don't want anyone to know about, but if it's going to trial, is it like.
00:17:25.000 No, yeah.
00:17:25.000 Well, so like early on, that's where I focused 100% of my energy when I was first looking at the case was all on what other leftists are involved.
00:17:33.000 You have 20 people who posted advanced knowledge.
00:17:36.000 Why are the.
00:17:37.000 And then I'm like, okay, the FBI is probably setting up on these guys, waiting for them to talk so that they could.
00:17:41.000 And then now.
00:17:42.000 But that's definitely not what's happening now.
00:17:43.000 I don't believe that for a second.
00:17:45.000 Yeah.
00:17:45.000 Well, I was wishful thinking at the time, but.
00:17:47.000 But this is what, you know, as with every single conspiracy, and not to isolate this one because it's contentious, I'll use 9 11.
00:17:55.000 Back when, like in the mid 2000s, I was very much on board with the investigate 9 11 line.
00:18:02.000 And I would argue against anybody when they'd be like, so you think Bush did?
00:18:05.000 Like, absolutely not.
00:18:06.000 I think that the government is not going to come out and tell you how our security is bypassed to such a degree that the Pentagon was bombed and our.
00:18:13.000 A couple buildings got knocked down.
00:18:14.000 But I think it's fair to say for a war now in the Middle East and for the American people that we do get accurate information pertaining to questions around 9 11.
00:18:24.000 So I'm not suggesting I know exactly what happened, just that I think it's fairly obvious the government's not telling us the full picture, the full story.
00:18:30.000 The problem is there were a bunch of people marching around saying Bush did it or that it was an inside job.
00:18:36.000 And I'm like, you've already asserted a conclusion when architects and engineers were simply asking the question that didn't line up with.
00:18:44.000 What they knew in architecture and engineering.
00:18:48.000 So, with this, the issue I take with the Israel Dittit people is that they've drawn a conclusion before we've actually been able to figure out who the players are, what makes sense, what doesn't make sense, because it could be somebody else.
00:18:59.000 It could be, there could be something.
00:19:01.000 I'm going to say it like this I don't firmly believe the full story.
00:19:06.000 I think Andrew Wilson said 70%.
00:19:09.000 I go slightly less than that, 60% perhaps.
00:19:12.000 There's just not evidence of anything else.
00:19:15.000 There's an absence of evidence.
00:19:16.000 And there's evidence that led to absence, such as these other individuals that were on social media being like, this thing's going to happen tomorrow.
00:19:23.000 And then poof, no one talks about it ever again.
00:19:26.000 Very bizarre.
00:19:27.000 So for someone to then immediately be like, Israel, I'm like, stop, stop.
00:19:30.000 Maybe sure, but we're not there yet.
00:19:30.000 Okay.
00:19:32.000 So right now, they're steamrolling through this trial.
00:19:36.000 And it sounds like the defense is just like, yes.
00:19:39.000 It's very, like, the defense's strategy has been very fishy.
00:19:44.000 It seems like this, to me, appears very, like, kind of, like, showy.
00:19:50.000 Where.
00:19:50.000 You know what I mean?
00:19:51.000 They want to just get this done, move along.
00:19:53.000 And you're like, why?
00:19:56.000 And I never looked at Israel seriously because to me, I'm like, a nation state that just doesn't seem like this would be a rational place to do it.
00:20:06.000 I feel like they established motive, but I was, anyway, bottom line is, as it relates to this case, I have an incredibly unique perspective that is, I don't want to suck up too much.
00:20:21.000 Do you think Robinson did it?
00:20:23.000 I mean, I think it's either a group of leftists did it or another option that I haven't, I don't know if I want to talk about on the platform, but I definitely, I've never entertained that Israel was behind this.
00:20:23.000 No.
00:20:34.000 And I also certainly never entertained that TPUSA murdered Robinson.
00:20:39.000 He asked if you thought Robinson did it.
00:20:40.000 Oh, oh, oh.
00:20:42.000 If leftists did it, then I think it is.
00:20:45.000 If leftists did it, then I think his involvement is.
00:20:47.000 Oh, I thought he answered.
00:20:48.000 Sure.
00:20:49.000 Yeah.
00:20:50.000 I would say that the preponderance of evidence and what's presented towards us lends itself to a Robinson assassination.
00:20:50.000 Oh.
00:20:56.000 And I think.
00:20:57.000 The next most likely scenario is that there's accomplices and others involved that, for some reason, are not being brought to light.
00:21:02.000 And then the question, to quote the great Alex Jones, key bono, which is whenever you're looking at a major high profile incident, war, whatever, the question is who's benefiting from it.
00:21:13.000 And so, in the question of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, who benefited?
00:21:17.000 Well, the deep state, the establishment, the intelligence agencies.
00:21:22.000 I wouldn't argue that Israel did.
00:21:23.000 I mean, there's a bunch of weird arguments about Charlie was going to argue against Israel, but that's not motivation to end his life, that's motivation to give him money.
00:21:29.000 I thought that when Netanyahu came out, either the same day it happened or the next day, and said, We, you know, Israelis, we feel for Charlie Kirk, he was a hero.
00:21:36.000 He came out and talked about it, which at first people were like, Oh, he must be covering up.
00:21:41.000 And it's like, No, actually, I think if the Israelis did it, they wouldn't have said anything.
00:21:41.000 I bet they were involved.
00:21:46.000 They would have been radio silent after.
00:21:47.000 I don't understand why people.
00:21:48.000 This is all conjecture, but I don't, I think Netanyahu stepped on his own foot and should have kept his mouth shut to keep himself out of the way that did.
00:21:55.000 I feel like it's the, the, so there was this, this video I got recommended on the carousel on Instagram.
00:22:01.000 This young woman saying that she was finally moving out of the United States of Israel and she's got like 10,000 likes and a bunch of comments.
00:22:08.000 And then she's just like, I'm done.
00:22:09.000 I'm going to Mexico.
00:22:10.000 I'm getting out of this place.
00:22:12.000 And I'm like, what is this?
00:22:13.000 Like, this is weird.
00:22:14.000 So, I go to her profile, and she's just a wannabe influencer.
00:22:17.000 She has no followers.
00:22:19.000 She has a bunch of content that you can tell she's experimenting with trying to do content, shaking her ass, and things like this.
00:22:25.000 Some of it wasn't working, doing skits didn't work.
00:22:27.000 And then she does the Israel post, and all of a sudden it's being recommended to people.
00:22:31.000 So, I look at stuff like that, and I'm like, it's just the reason why the Israel narrative pops up is algorithmic.
00:22:37.000 There's a million conspiracies you could have, right?
00:22:40.000 One could argue that some Islamic country stood to benefit the most because Charlie Kirk was a major proponent of Israel.
00:22:45.000 Then some might argue, oh, but he was turning on Israel.
00:22:47.000 But then Israel would offer him money.
00:22:49.000 There's just not enough there.
00:22:51.000 Now, if you look at the deep state, if you look at US intelligence agencies, Charlie Kirk was on track to be president of the United States.
00:22:58.000 He was a guy from Chicago, seemingly not part of the establishment club, college dropout, not a skull, you know what I mean?
00:23:04.000 Not part of this elite group.
00:23:06.000 And here he is whispering in the ear of the president, rallying students to vote in a direction outside of the uniparty machine.
00:23:13.000 So Trump wins, right?
00:23:16.000 Whatever they had to do to stop Trump didn't work in 24, and credit goes to Pressler and Charlie Kirk with Turning Point USA.
00:23:23.000 So when I ask the question, who benefits, it's establishment political operatives.
00:23:27.000 I agree with that.
00:23:28.000 Basically, I mean, I'm not going to even be able to do this show without just saying it out loud.
00:23:31.000 So basically, where I'm at is like, I was all in leftists.
00:23:34.000 I never, and to the point I made earlier, I never considered for a second that TPUSA would have been involved in murdering Charlie ever.
00:23:41.000 And thus, if there was any indication that they were involved with anything, whether video or otherwise, then I look at it and I go, well, it's.
00:23:48.000 That's if they were involved, then it's not a murder, you know.
00:23:51.000 Like, that's the what do you mean?
00:23:53.000 Then, if you know, if there's if TV USA was in any way involved in what happened on 910, that means it's not a murder, like it has to be something else.
00:24:00.000 He's in Wittsec or something or some other much larger, grander thing where like it's something that it's not like it's not what it appears to be.
00:24:07.000 So, you think if they were involved at all, it would be to fake his death to get him out of the public eye, correct?
00:24:12.000 If they're involved, highly unlikely, sure.
00:24:15.000 But if they were involved, because I, no one's going to convince me that like.
00:24:18.000 Andrew Colvett and Mikey McCoy conspired to murder Charlie Kirk.
00:24:21.000 I'm not.
00:24:23.000 I got to be honest, and I say this not to be mean to Colvett, but I know Colvett's going to get mad that I'm going to say this.
00:24:29.000 Colvett doesn't have the wherewithal to scheme a massive conspiracy to assassinate a high.
00:24:36.000 He's just not that guy.
00:24:37.000 You know what I mean?
00:24:38.000 And I want to make sure I'm clear in how I say this.
00:24:40.000 Isn't that a compliment, though?
00:24:42.000 Well, my point is, in essence, I'm saying he doesn't have the capability to carry out a grand conspiracy because he's not smart enough to do it.
00:24:48.000 Okay.
00:24:49.000 And I know it might be, it might seem disrespectful to Colvet to say that he's not smart enough to be an assassin, but it's true.
00:24:54.000 And it's, it's a backhanded compliment.
00:24:56.000 It's a backhanded compliment.
00:24:56.000 I'll admit that.
00:24:57.000 I'm not saying he's a dumb guy.
00:24:59.000 Just like the amount of, of, of organizational capability to pull something like this off is high intelligence statecraft.
00:25:06.000 And you don't, for sure.
00:25:06.000 Yeah.
00:25:07.000 If Twigs would turn him in, if, if he was involved with this somehow, if Colvet was, of course, Twigs would be turning on turning point if they were involved.
00:25:15.000 And he would know all about it.
00:25:16.000 Well, but you, but you got to understand, uh, MKUltra, right?
00:25:22.000 That's the control.
00:25:23.000 But you also got to understand, too.
00:25:25.000 Let me tell you some more conspiracy stuff.
00:25:27.000 Let me issue a clarification.
00:25:28.000 I am not suggesting this was high level statecraft.
00:25:30.000 I'm saying, should it have been a conspiracy, it would have required high level statecraft, the license of which Colbert doesn't have the capability to carry out.
00:25:36.000 I think, dude, I mean, I want to make one more point conspiracy wise is I've talked about this on the show before.
00:25:40.000 4chan, a long time ago, this is like 15 years ago, uncovered a Facebook profile of a woman who was posting just incessant ramblings.
00:25:49.000 And it was like you'd pull up her page.
00:25:51.000 And again, this is like 16 years ago.
00:25:54.000 There would be like just 400 words, and it would be like the dog ran through the fence, but the fence toppled over and fell off the cliff by the wayside of the cliff.
00:26:01.000 And then there was an oatmeal spoon that was spinning, tumbling down in the sky as the stars shimmered.
00:26:05.000 And you're like, this seems to make absolutely no sense.
00:26:08.000 And a few theories emerged.
00:26:09.000 One was that the whole thing was code and that this is what spies will do a dead drop, right?
00:26:15.000 Putting information somewhere they know only someone knows where to look, right?
00:26:20.000 So if you're a spy working in a foreign country and you want to leave information for another one of your spy buddies, you can't just hand a file to somebody.
00:26:26.000 So you go online when no one's looking, use a VPN, you type up encrypted messages, post it to a random profile that no one knows exists, other person can read it and then decrypt it.
00:26:35.000 There's some extraction way to.
00:26:36.000 However, one of the theories was that this woman, because apparently they looked into her and she had worked for some government agencies.
00:26:44.000 And one of the theories, and again, just it could be nonsense, was that she was a burned spy who had been dosed with high levels of LSD or something to fry her brain so she could no longer communicate effectively.
00:26:57.000 And so she was typing away desperately trying to tell people what was going on, but her brain was fried by doses of hallucinogenics.
00:27:05.000 Anyway, the point is one of the conspiracy theories would be when you MKUltra somebody, right, lock them in a room for two weeks, scream in their face, blast loud noises, and brainwash them.
00:27:15.000 You get them to do something.
00:27:16.000 First, you get a vulnerable person, someone who's not particularly of strong will, brainwash them, MKUltra style.
00:27:23.000 Then, once they do the deed, you hallucinogenic them.
00:27:27.000 And then they're not going to be able to write on anybody.
00:27:29.000 They never saw any faces, their brains fried, and they're going to be saying stupid things that make no sense.
00:27:33.000 And they say this person's a kook, and then people don't look into him further than that.
00:27:37.000 Yeah.
00:27:38.000 Yeah.
00:27:38.000 Yep.
00:27:39.000 Like there's questions about that crooks dude, right?
00:27:41.000 Yeah.
00:27:42.000 About how, like, no motive, how to get on the roof, like, what happened with that assassination with Trump?
00:27:46.000 Like, they're not digging into it.
00:27:48.000 What's this guy's background?
00:27:49.000 What about that guy, Vince or Vance Bolter in Minnesota, who whacked out the state senators and he had worked as the community liaison on the task force for?
00:28:01.000 Yeah, the guy that worked for that story.
00:28:02.000 And he had no kings.
00:28:04.000 Like, there were pieces of paper with no kings written on it in his car.
00:28:07.000 No, I'll tell you one of my favorite conspiracies.
00:28:09.000 We don't really explore these things.
00:28:11.000 Remember when that woman got, there was a woman murdered in D.C., who was like an older lady with red hair walking her dog, and she looked just like the wife of Ilhan Omar's.
00:28:22.000 Side piece?
00:28:24.000 Yeah.
00:28:25.000 Yeah, new guy.
00:28:25.000 New guy?
00:28:27.000 And so the conspiracy theory was this Eritrean guy randomly stabbed his woman and ran off for no reason.
00:28:33.000 And they were like, the conspiracy theory was that this guy was hired to take out this dude's wife in this neighborhood, saw this woman who looked just like his wife in that neighborhood, randomly kills her.
00:28:45.000 Yeah, I'm not saying it's true.
00:28:46.000 You know, it was the internet.
00:28:47.000 We also, that dude that jumped up and was like, yeah, after Charlie got shot.
00:28:51.000 Yeah, we were talking about that.
00:28:52.000 And then he was posting cryptic stuff on Twitter.
00:28:55.000 This is like a deep.
00:28:56.000 Conspiracy oriented thing that I don't even know if it's worth bringing up on this show.
00:28:59.000 We went into the show.
00:29:00.000 It's too long of a story.
00:29:01.000 Dude, this, it seems like very plainly a kid got radicalized and then killed Charlie open and shut, and that people are making millions off of talking it into the ground.
00:29:12.000 Or, it feels like.
00:29:13.000 You can't actually have an investigation into the accomplices and the story surrounding it because YouTube is algorithmically promoting the most psychotic of conspiracy theories instead.
00:29:25.000 Despite some of these channels breaking.
00:29:27.000 Obvious rules, YouTube amplifies what YouTube has previously said it would suppress.
00:29:35.000 YouTube stated outright, like 10 years ago, conspiracy related content would be reduced in the algorithm, visibility reduced.
00:29:42.000 They started putting tags on channels, Wikipedia entries.
00:29:45.000 But this is the one conspiracy theory they want on the front page all day, every day.
00:29:51.000 And I have to ask once again why are they allowing the rules to be broken in this one case?
00:29:57.000 I don't know.
00:29:58.000 I don't know which, like, I don't know if rules, I wouldn't be able to point to rules being, but like a lot of, like, there's really crazy stuff.
00:30:05.000 But then there's a lot of stuff where if you look at it, it's like, okay, I think this conclusion is incorrect.
00:30:13.000 However, that is a very legitimate, suspicious thing that you are bringing up and then showing.
00:30:20.000 It's just, you know, at a certain point, the logic for me, it's like, okay, well, that I think indicates something else.
00:30:26.000 I mean, I, I, Yeah, no, no, sorry.
00:30:29.000 I was just going to say, like, that's where I started entertaining other things because I'm like, okay, that's very, very bizarre.
00:30:35.000 Can't explain that behavior.
00:30:36.000 Can't explain that.
00:30:37.000 This is impossible as a conclusion.
00:30:38.000 So, what else could I be looking at?
00:30:41.000 You know what I would do if I was part of a government deep state secret thing to, you know, take somebody out?
00:30:48.000 You don't want to just go and take somebody out, right?
00:30:50.000 There's a reason why assassinations have fallen by the wayside.
00:30:53.000 It's because you make a martyr of a person.
00:30:55.000 Tell that to Putin.
00:30:56.000 Yes.
00:30:57.000 Well, I'm talking about the United States, right?
00:30:59.000 So, we saw like Martin Luther King Jr., we saw Malcolm X. JFK, of course, but you make martyrs of people, and that can be a problem if their ideology becomes cemented permanently.
00:31:09.000 So they've shifted towards character assassination, which is what we saw with Julian Assange.
00:31:14.000 Make up a fake story accusing him of rape, which never happened, lock him up, and then no matter what happens, the media just keeps lying about him over and over again.
00:31:20.000 So when you talk to a regular person, they say, you know, he raped somebody, which he never did and was never an accusation against him.
00:31:25.000 You know the true story of what happened there, right?
00:31:27.000 With Assange?
00:31:28.000 With Assange, like what they were saying was the rape story?
00:31:31.000 Well, it was a A condom broke and the woman wanted to get an STD.
00:31:35.000 Yep, that's it.
00:31:36.000 And so they went to the police and said, Can we compel an STD test?
00:31:38.000 Yep, that's right.
00:31:39.000 Yeah, that was it.
00:31:40.000 That was it.
00:31:41.000 So totally consensual, but there was a whoopsie, and then they said, We want to get tested.
00:31:45.000 Can we make him get tested?
00:31:46.000 And they said, That sounds like right.
00:31:47.000 Yep, two girls had the same story about the broken condom.
00:31:49.000 They got mad that he wouldn't come take the STD test, and that's exactly what happened.
00:31:52.000 That was it.
00:31:54.000 And so character assassination is one way they go about doing it.
00:31:56.000 However, one of the other tactics that any good intelligence operation is going to do is controlled opposition, which is You have your reaction preset.
00:32:06.000 Obviously, you are going to like this is going to create martyrdom and it's going to create a massive investigation.
00:32:10.000 How do we control the outcome afterwards?
00:32:14.000 You need to determine what the narrative is going to be and then you need to amplify that narrative.
00:32:20.000 So, what do we get?
00:32:22.000 Like clockwork.
00:32:23.000 After Charlie dies, a specific narrative emerges on YouTube on the front page for new users that breaks their rules.
00:32:32.000 I'm not saying necessarily the community guidelines, I'm saying YouTube has rules on promotion and.
00:32:38.000 Recommendation based on conspiracy specifically.
00:32:42.000 And you've got numerous channels that completely defy those rules that they set.
00:32:47.000 So the question I just have is why?
00:32:51.000 Now, again, if it were me and I was working in some secret CD intelligence agency, I'd be like, then we want to have people in media.
00:32:58.000 Perhaps what we can do is, is there someone we can find with a big following that we can bring into the fold, convince them to join us, and create some like connection?
00:33:07.000 How about we have them marry a lord or something like that?
00:33:09.000 And then we'll get them lawyers that work in the federal building with our agents.
00:33:13.000 How does that sound?
00:33:14.000 See, everything you described, I thought you were talking about the Charlie hoax theory because it was like, because that's literally, you hit all of those points where if the whole thing was done to intentionally take Charlie off the map, at least publicly, Erica goes in his place.
00:33:31.000 She's running TPUSA.
00:33:32.000 He's actually running it in the backdrop.
00:33:34.000 They create a martyr out of him.
00:33:36.000 They have the leftists react exactly as you knew they were going to react, which is, you know, party in the streets, which makes anyone with common sense, a heart, and a soul, like whatever side they're on.
00:33:47.000 I'm done with it.
00:33:48.000 Gets everybody focused in the right direction, cash in them, immediately deem Antifa as left wing terror groups, which enabled them to target the funding of those groups.
00:33:58.000 And have you guys noticed, not a lot of riots this summer, dude?
00:34:01.000 And because.
00:34:01.000 None.
00:34:02.000 After USAID goes belly up, too.
00:34:05.000 And because the funders, they can go after them criminally now, which if the left gets back in power, they will immediately undermine them.
00:34:11.000 But they're not.
00:34:12.000 The Charlie Kirk thing is not being associated with Antifa.
00:34:15.000 It's just like they're not even calling this guy a radical leftist.
00:34:18.000 They're saying he's like left aligned LGBTQ.
00:34:21.000 Like they're going very light with it.
00:34:22.000 Did you see Lance's?
00:34:23.000 Did you watch Lance's testimony?
00:34:26.000 Lance, yes, but he's like, Have you ever heard Tyler talk about like Charlie Kirk?
00:34:31.000 He's like, No, not really.
00:34:32.000 You're like, But he like shot him with a like you got on a roof and then murdered him.
00:34:38.000 Like, that's I don't know.
00:34:39.000 It just seems very bizarre.
00:34:41.000 I the fact that he can be not saying it's like if it's a conspiracy to like frame him, you would have him say that he hates him.
00:34:47.000 If it's not that, but why is he saying that he shot it?
00:34:51.000 Just doesn't, I can't make it make sense.
00:34:53.000 I can't like, it's just a possibility.
00:34:55.000 Or will he still get hit with that?
00:34:58.000 He has immunity for anything that he says in relation to the story, but he's not immune if he, in fact, was involved in the crime, I think, is how that is.
00:35:09.000 Yeah, I think he has immunity for what he said in that interview, but anything outside or after that, he's not immune from.
00:35:16.000 Here's something crazy to think about as it relates to the narrative that the feds are putting out as the real.
00:35:23.000 That has not changed since September 13th.
00:35:28.000 And you have an entire army of people who have spent.
00:35:32.000 80 hours a week, every week for a year looking into it.
00:35:36.000 And so it's like the idea that there's not a very, you know, at least at the very least, a much more bolstered version of what happened, in addition to, in my opinion, a completely different thing that happened.
00:35:46.000 Like it can't just be what was available three days later and there's no, and they're not doing anything wrong.
00:35:53.000 Well, what I would add to that, though, the challenge is, of course, the Lindsey Clancy trial.
00:35:53.000 Right.
00:35:58.000 Have y'all been reading what these women are writing?
00:36:00.000 No.
00:36:00.000 No.
00:36:01.000 It's, it's, It's psychobabble.
00:36:05.000 What are they saying?
00:36:06.000 That Lindsey Clancy's husband drugged her, murdered his children, slit her wrists and threw her out the window, got in his car and drove off.
00:36:15.000 Then came back and told her she did it.
00:36:15.000 Wow.
00:36:18.000 That's what they believe happened.
00:36:20.000 That's.
00:36:21.000 And you know what the funny thing is?
00:36:24.000 All of these posts I see from them are indistinguishable from the rhetoric style and the language we see in the Israel did it.
00:36:35.000 Narratives about Charlie Kirk.
00:36:38.000 This is.
00:36:38.000 Are they the same?
00:36:39.000 I'm not saying the same conspiracy.
00:36:39.000 I don't know.
00:36:41.000 Yeah, but the.
00:36:42.000 Oh, there's an absolute overlap.
00:36:44.000 Yeah.
00:36:45.000 I would say this.
00:36:46.000 Not that Candace has been going off completely on, but with her statement of, of course she's not guilty, blah, blah, blah.
00:36:53.000 Oh, I didn't even know she talked about the case.
00:36:53.000 And like.
00:36:55.000 Yeah, she has a video where she says, of course Lindsey Clancy is not guilty.
00:36:58.000 Big Pharma's been terrorizing people, blah, blah, blah.
00:37:00.000 And I agree with her on that.
00:37:01.000 I don't disagree on the Big Pharma.
00:37:03.000 Right.
00:37:04.000 I think we shouldn't get blinded.
00:37:05.000 A lot of conservatives are like, Lindsey Clancy is not a victim, blah, blah, blah.
00:37:08.000 I'm like, hold on, hold on.
00:37:10.000 She's a victim of big pharma and a murderer of children.
00:37:12.000 Those are two distinct things.
00:37:13.000 Big pharma is bad, you know?
00:37:15.000 And also, with antidepressants, it's a known side effect that it causes in rare cases, like suicide.
00:37:23.000 I don't think it's a rare case.
00:37:25.000 Yeah, the homicidal stuff.
00:37:26.000 Yeah.
00:37:27.000 I know probably a hand, maybe three or four people who have taken various kinds of antidepressants, and they said it made them angry and suicidal.
00:37:34.000 I have a friend who's like a college educated normal guy who got on antidepressants and.
00:37:39.000 He robbed six banks.
00:37:41.000 Oh, wow.
00:37:42.000 And he ended up only getting four or five years because he used a pellet gun.
00:37:46.000 He was never going to kill anyone.
00:37:47.000 And then so when he went.
00:37:48.000 To court, that's, that's, he's like, he was on, he proved he had gone to a psychiatrist, he was on these drugs and he had a psychotic break and went and did that.
00:37:55.000 And, uh, yeah, I mean, the drugs thing, but also the thing that I agree on as it relates to like, you know, this guy, this guy's problem in this case for me is that it's not in dispute that she had desperately attempted to get help in terms of her psychiatric state.
00:38:13.000 She had checked herself into a psych ward multiple times and he left her alone with his kids when he knew she was in that level of psychosis and he was hanging out in New York with his.
00:38:23.000 Mistress that looks exactly like her.
00:38:25.000 Have you seen those pictures?
00:38:26.000 No, let's pull it a little bit.
00:38:28.000 She's her identical twin.
00:38:29.000 It's bizarre.
00:38:31.000 So, at the very least, like, you know, like if I would never do that, I would never leave my kids alone with anyone who is in that, you know, in that situation.
00:38:40.000 I mean, look, if I were in his situation, I would never leave my kids alone ever again.
00:38:45.000 Is this her?
00:38:46.000 Had kids afterwards?
00:38:47.000 Yeah, if you do a side by side, just do.
00:38:50.000 Does she have like a black eye or something?
00:38:52.000 Honestly, I don't even know which one that is.
00:38:53.000 I think, but.
00:38:56.000 Lindsey Clancy and new wife.
00:38:59.000 It is uncanny.
00:39:02.000 Is this it?
00:39:04.000 Yep.
00:39:06.000 Well, he's got a type, you know?
00:39:07.000 How crazy is that, though?
00:39:10.000 He's leaving the one who's in Christ with the kids and going to New York for the same thing, except just no kids, no bills.
00:39:18.000 So, real quick, the update here is that the jury is deadlocked.
00:39:21.000 They were deadlocked today.
00:39:23.000 The judge ordered them to go back and continue deliberating.
00:39:27.000 They are still deadlocked and requested to be excused for the day.
00:39:31.000 So we still don't have a verdict, but it's very obvious at this point.
00:39:33.000 I think it's going to be a hung jury in the Lindsey Clancy case.
00:39:35.000 I understand that because if you have someone in captivity, not that Clancy was in captivity, but if you MKUltra somebody to go do a crime, who's guilty?
00:39:46.000 That's a big assumption, though.
00:39:48.000 I know, but if you were to put someone on psychiatrics, heavy medicines that you know is going to make them psychotic, or maybe there's a.
00:39:54.000 I'm not saying the industry had intent to do this.
00:39:58.000 MKUltra's got intent.
00:39:59.000 If you kidnapped Phil and tied him up.
00:40:02.000 And brainwashed him into committing a crime, you have committed a crime.
00:40:07.000 Exactly.
00:40:08.000 However, the purpose of the brainwashing is that it's very difficult to trace it back to you.
00:40:12.000 Right.
00:40:13.000 And if I gave Phil drugs and then Phil legally took the drugs and then made him crazy, well, that's a different question.
00:40:21.000 Or if the doctor gave you drugs and they made you crazy and then you did a crime, out of your mind, insanity, like, is the doctor liable?
00:40:30.000 Is the industry that built the drug that did the test that knew it made People suicidal.
00:40:34.000 You know, I got a question.
00:40:37.000 How come we've never seen like a magician murderer?
00:40:39.000 You know what I mean?
00:40:40.000 No, but like, they always get away because they always disappear.
00:40:43.000 Well, what I mean is, imagine like a murder happens, but then like some weird, like the magician floats away.
00:40:48.000 Like, imagine there's like a guy walking in, he's like, I can't control it.
00:40:52.000 The invisible vampires have me.
00:40:53.000 And then he like shoots a guy and then floats away screaming, Help me.
00:40:56.000 All the witnesses are like, he was screaming something was controlling his body, invisible vampires, and then he got flown away, but it was all just like an illusion.
00:41:02.000 They're going to lock up all the witnesses in the room.
00:41:04.000 They're going to be like, You're all nuts.
00:41:04.000 Right.
00:41:05.000 It didn't happen.
00:41:06.000 Like, if even.
00:41:07.000 More realistic, a commander in the military orders his dudes to go kill people, and then later they find out, hey, that's a war crime.
00:41:14.000 You don't always go after the troops that were following the order.
00:41:16.000 You go after the commander that issued the order.
00:41:18.000 No, no, no, no.
00:41:19.000 Like in Vietnam, the My Lai Massacre.
00:41:21.000 Let me tell you, the UCMJ is very clear you are not obligated to follow illegal orders.
00:41:30.000 Are you familiar with the My Lai Massacre?
00:41:32.000 I am.
00:41:33.000 They murdered the guy, the lieutenant ordered his platoon to go take out a village of women and children.
00:41:38.000 They did it, and then he was the only guy that got.
00:41:40.000 The point that I'm making, though, is if you listen to, if you follow orders that you know are illegal, if you're commanded to go murder someone, right?
00:41:40.000 Busted for it.
00:41:49.000 Someone that's not a non, or someone that is a non combatant or something, the person that commits the murder is responsible because you are not obligated to follow illegal orders.
00:41:59.000 Tough position to be in in that particular example.
00:42:01.000 Yeah, it's like, hey, all of you murderers with guns, I'm not doing the thing.
00:42:05.000 You know, a major says, hey, private, go, you know, and then you're like, ah, you know.
00:42:11.000 That's what the My Life Massacre was.
00:42:12.000 It was a lot worse than the.
00:42:16.000 That's one of the most horrifying stories.
00:42:21.000 But just because you have one example doesn't change the fact that there's precedent.
00:42:25.000 Oh, totally.
00:42:26.000 Look at the Nazis.
00:42:26.000 That's the most extreme example ever.
00:42:28.000 And they had been conditioned for years in the jungle of the earth.
00:42:31.000 And they would get blown apart for weeks leading to it, obviously.
00:42:34.000 The Nazis did not escape punishment.
00:42:37.000 A lot of them did.
00:42:38.000 A lot of them did.
00:42:39.000 A lot of the soldiers did.
00:42:40.000 By saying, I was just following orders.
00:42:43.000 Well, they just hit the leadership.
00:42:44.000 Like Hormund Goring got it.
00:42:47.000 You know, at the Nuremberg trial, like many of them, but like at some point down up the chain of like order, there's someone's poisoning these people to poison these people to do this thing, and it's like, who's the villain?
00:42:58.000 Who's the one that should be in prison?
00:43:01.000 All of fluoride in our water, and we got well water here, actually, this pool water, uh, artesian water, drinking all of that.
00:43:11.000 The point that I'm making is I mean, I'm sure there's some natural fluoride, but nothing added.
00:43:14.000 There is precedent for all of the stuff that you're talking about, and just because you have an anecdote where the precedent wasn't followed.
00:43:21.000 Doesn't change the fact that there are laws and there is precedent for these types of things.
00:43:26.000 The massacre in particular, the My Line Massacre, I'm not familiar with it, but it doesn't change the fact that you are not obligated, according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, you are not required to follow illegal orders.
00:43:38.000 You're actually required when you're in the jungle with 30 other dudes.
00:43:40.000 You're required to not follow.
00:43:41.000 Yes, you're required.
00:43:42.000 But when you're in the jungle with 30 other dudes with machine guns and they all tell you to do something, what are you going to do?
00:43:48.000 Say no.
00:43:48.000 Say no.
00:43:49.000 And get shot?
00:43:50.000 Okay, so.
00:43:50.000 Sure.
00:43:51.000 That's not how it works.
00:43:52.000 No, but it is.
00:43:53.000 It is not for me how it works.
00:43:54.000 You're adding.
00:43:55.000 You're jumping to conclusions.
00:43:57.000 That's what they were.
00:43:58.000 Just because you say, I'm not going to do it, doesn't mean you're going to get shot.
00:44:03.000 He'll probably say, hey, if he won't do it, you go do it.
00:44:07.000 They're not going to just murder you for not following the orders.
00:44:10.000 Now, you may get put in the brig.
00:44:12.000 You may get roughed up, but that doesn't mean that.
00:44:14.000 No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:44:17.000 I got a question.
00:44:18.000 I got a question.
00:44:19.000 If you were surrounded by guys with guns and they told you to shoot a bunch of people or else they'd shoot you, you would shoot the people.
00:44:27.000 If these guys with guns were my like military brothers and I was given an order to go do something horrific and they're all like, let's go, and they're all ready to go do it, I'd go do it.
00:44:37.000 And then I would suffer the consequences.
00:44:39.000 I wouldn't stand up and be like, no, kill me first.
00:44:41.000 I wouldn't do that.
00:44:42.000 What would you do?
00:44:43.000 What was the contract?
00:44:44.000 Yeah, I would.
00:44:46.000 You'd be the one guy.
00:44:47.000 Sure.
00:44:48.000 Somehow that was able, after seeing your body get eviscerated, to somehow be like, no, it's not moral to do it.
00:44:54.000 If Phil put a gun to my head and said, shoot Ian, I'd say no.
00:44:57.000 You understand the psychology of these guys, they were broken.
00:45:00.000 They weren't sitting in a cool.
00:45:02.000 That might be the question being asked.
00:45:04.000 The question is about responsibility and whether you have the willpower to say, I won't commit evil because you threatened my life.
00:45:11.000 I know, and something is part of MKUltra.
00:45:13.000 Their willpowers are broken.
00:45:15.000 Clancy, or was that her name Clancy?
00:45:16.000 It wasn't in a willpower state.
00:45:18.000 She was obviously broken by whatever her husband's infidelity and psychiatric drugs.
00:45:23.000 I know what you're saying.
00:45:24.000 I'm going to pause real quick.
00:45:26.000 If Phil instructs Carter to shoot you and Carter goes, but I had no will, they're going to say, That's fine, and you'll go to prison for the rest of your life.
00:45:35.000 What do I care?
00:45:36.000 So, if someone puts a gun on a person and you're like, shoot your friend or you die, and they shoot the friend, do they, you think they'd get prosecuted for that?
00:45:44.000 I actually have no idea.
00:45:46.000 Like, if it was like, I'm going to kill you if you don't do it, it might not be first degree, but it is manslaughter or something.
00:45:51.000 There is this famous case where, what was it, the guy had the bomb on his neck and he robbed the bank.
00:45:55.000 Oh, that's a great documentary.
00:45:57.000 That's an evil genius on.
00:45:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:46:00.000 And then he blew up and it blew up his chest or whatever.
00:46:02.000 So, there is duress as consideration, but I'm not going to be a lawyer.
00:46:06.000 I think this would vary by jurisdiction.
00:46:08.000 But if someone.
00:46:10.000 Threatens to kill you, and then you commit a crime, you still have culpability.
00:46:14.000 Well, I like this metaphor.
00:46:15.000 But it's not going to be, you know, if your guns are trained on you and they're like, go commit this crime, and you're like, okay, to survive, I'll do the crime.
00:46:22.000 Like, you, I hope you'll be a little more lenient than if you masterminded and carried it out.
00:46:27.000 So, but you're still cool.
00:46:29.000 Evil Genius, she made him rob the bank with the thing on his neck.
00:46:29.000 That's right.
00:46:32.000 Yeah, she was murdered.
00:46:34.000 That is a great documentary.
00:46:35.000 Anybody watching this, I highly recommend Evil Genius documentary on Netflix.
00:46:38.000 I don't know enough about this case to, it sounds like she murdered the kids.
00:46:43.000 Now, murder is obviously a type of killing.
00:46:46.000 So the jury is going to decide if it was murder, if it was manslaughter, if it was just whatever.
00:46:51.000 But to clarify, as all things with morality, for most crimes, you are not going to be criminally responsible under duress except murder.
00:47:10.000 If you are under duress to commit a murder and you do, you're in trouble.
00:47:13.000 And there are, of course, instances where.
00:47:15.000 Smaller crimes that are less serious, you won't be.
00:47:18.000 And that obviously makes sense.
00:47:20.000 If someone points a gun to your head and says, steal that expensive vase, and you do, the consideration is the vase is a material object, can be replaced, there's insurance.
00:47:28.000 You're trying to minimize the amount of death.
00:47:30.000 But if someone points a gun at you and then says, kill somebody, so you do, you've just equalized the murder.
00:47:35.000 So there's some responsibility.
00:47:36.000 Again, to the Ni Lai Massacre, there are extreme situations where it's like, even then, you just don't punish the guys that were under duress.
00:47:43.000 Those guys were.
00:47:44.000 It's like a collective, like.
00:47:45.000 You do.
00:47:46.000 You absolutely do.
00:47:46.000 No, they do.
00:47:47.000 Nixon did not.
00:47:48.000 No, you punished them.
00:47:49.000 You should.
00:47:49.000 Well, they actually punished.
00:47:50.000 They were humiliated.
00:47:51.000 They were.
00:47:52.000 It was known that they partook in it.
00:47:53.000 They didn't go to prison for the rest of their lives for that.
00:47:55.000 I know.
00:47:56.000 I'm saying they should.
00:47:57.000 It's a difference, right?
00:47:57.000 Anyone who's going to say they should.
00:47:58.000 I'm not saying they did.
00:47:59.000 A lot of Nazi soldiers have gone to prison for the rest of their lives.
00:48:02.000 There's a difference between should and did either.
00:48:03.000 Killed American soldiers in battle.
00:48:06.000 No, not the Nazi soldiers, but a lot of the SS guys did.
00:48:11.000 But I'm asking about the German soldiers killed Americans.
00:48:13.000 No, they killed Americans.
00:48:14.000 Do they then go to prison for their lives where they were killed?
00:48:16.000 There's a distinction.
00:48:16.000 Yes.
00:48:17.000 For the love of all that is holy.
00:48:17.000 Yes.
00:48:17.000 There's a distinction.
00:48:19.000 When we are saying they should, we didn't say they did.
00:48:21.000 Do you not understand this?
00:48:23.000 I'm telling you about, you're saying it should happen.
00:48:26.000 I'm telling you about situations where it doesn't.
00:48:27.000 Everyone knows it didn't happen.
00:48:29.000 Do you understand there will be situations where it won't happen?
00:48:31.000 And the point, the question being asked when you brought this up is should people?
00:48:36.000 And we said should yes.
00:48:38.000 And then you went, but they didn't.
00:48:38.000 I don't think those guys in Vietnam should have gone to prison.
00:48:42.000 Well, you'd be wrong.
00:48:43.000 If they whacked out a lot, they whacked out kids, like, you know, raped women in front of their kids.
00:48:48.000 But the lieutenant.
00:48:49.000 Suffered and he should have.
00:48:50.000 He's the one that orchestrated and commanded it.
00:48:53.000 They could all just muted his sense.
00:48:54.000 And then Nick's muted his sense.
00:48:56.000 But I mean, they ended up suffering the rest of their lives.
00:48:59.000 Oh, yeah.
00:49:00.000 They should have for sure.
00:49:01.000 I mean, they don't get a pass.
00:49:01.000 Yeah.
00:49:02.000 Let's move on.
00:49:03.000 We'll jump to the story we got from Tony Ortiz.
00:49:06.000 This one's actually really interesting.
00:49:08.000 Tony Ortiz of Current Revolt said recently, a handful of influencers, some Texans, took a fully paid for trip to Poland.
00:49:15.000 Many were asked who funded the trip, but they refused to say, of course, I got it figured out.
00:49:19.000 And it's someone who has been involved in Texas politics story soon.
00:49:22.000 Now, what I love about this is that Tony says some Texan because he says Texas news.
00:49:28.000 But we do have this tweet from, I think, Alex Stein.
00:49:34.000 Actually, here we go.
00:49:35.000 He says they were funded by Miriam Adelson's pro Israeli group, Maccabee Task Force.
00:49:41.000 And I know this is because I was invited to do the same thing and I passed on it.
00:49:45.000 So he actually posted the message, and it's from someone named Yuri Dyson.
00:49:50.000 Hey, everyone, nice to meet you.
00:49:51.000 And thank you, Haya, for making this happen.
00:49:54.000 I hope this message finds you well.
00:49:55.000 We're very grateful and excited that you're joining us in Poland in a month.
00:49:58.000 My name is Yuri Dyson.
00:49:59.000 I'm organizing the trip, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
00:50:03.000 The trip will provide you with an unparalleled opportunity to visit significant sites related to the history and legacy of the Holocaust and World War II.
00:50:09.000 Everything on the ground is organized and covered by organization.
00:50:11.000 We'll have a full tour with a guide who works both across Poland and Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum, et cetera, et cetera.
00:50:18.000 Nazi occupation.
00:50:19.000 We hope you walk away from the experience of the provado understanding of the Holocaust history and a deep appreciation for the importance of.
00:50:24.000 And then there's the rest of the message is cut off.
00:50:26.000 They did a program where they would fly influencers out to Israel, except this time they're like, that's what it seems like.
00:50:33.000 And then Tony Otis posted this from a handful of people.
00:50:36.000 I think we know some of these people.
00:50:38.000 So, what do we do?
00:50:39.000 Question mark, question mark, question mark.
00:50:40.000 Guys, who the F even is this?
00:50:41.000 A journalist.
00:50:42.000 I hope he doesn't find out who else funded it.
00:50:43.000 It's freaking me out right now.
00:50:45.000 You guys have no idea who Tony is.
00:50:47.000 He will not stop till he thinks he has everything on you.
00:50:50.000 He's ridiculous.
00:50:52.000 So, apparently, I guess they were worried that it would be found out that they were funded by Miriam Adelson's pro Israeli group, specifically to get a perspective on the Holocaust and all that stuff.
00:51:06.000 I think it is untoward of individuals to accept money to go on trips for things like this without disclosing it outright and upfront.
00:51:16.000 That being said, it's not going to stop people like, you know, Alex Jones or whoever else from lying.
00:51:23.000 For instance, when I met with Netanyahu and then literally tweeted as I walked out the door, took pictures with Dave Rubin in the building that House in Habit filmed, and then tweeted, just met Netanyahu, we'll discuss everything that was said.
00:51:36.000 They'll still lie about you anyway.
00:51:38.000 But that being said, this is unethical, just outright.
00:51:43.000 Like, because I was going to say, I don't really care that much.
00:51:43.000 You think so?
00:51:47.000 I mean, I guess they should have to disclose it.
00:51:48.000 I don't care that much if they go on like a trip.
00:51:51.000 I have a huge ethical problem with people if they take money and then they are like told what to say.
00:51:57.000 As long as they're not told what to say, if it ends up being their own opinion because it was shaped by a trip they went on, I'm kind of like.
00:52:03.000 Yeah, but that's how the game is played.
00:52:05.000 You know, 15 years ago, I was being interviewed by a journalist and a buddy of mine was pouring some scotch and offered him a shot.
00:52:12.000 He said, no, no, no, I can't take that.
00:52:14.000 And he was like, you can have a shot.
00:52:16.000 And he goes, I can't accept anything from subjects.
00:52:18.000 That's how journalism is supposed to be.
00:52:20.000 So, when you have a special interest group of any kind offering journalists an opportunity to go on a trip to Europe, all expenses paid, oh, come on.
00:52:32.000 And don't do anything in your hotel room you don't want on camera.
00:52:32.000 That's fair.
00:52:35.000 Yeah, basically, the issue is this.
00:52:37.000 Bro, if someone came to me and was like, How would you like to fly to Tokyo?
00:52:41.000 We're going to go take a look at like the old, you know, World War II sites or whatever.
00:52:47.000 I'm thinking, Man, Tokyo sounds fun.
00:52:49.000 There's a reason why they're inviting you to go there.
00:52:52.000 So, like Alex, I also would say, Absolutely not.
00:52:55.000 To trips like this.
00:52:56.000 I would not do it.
00:52:57.000 I've been to Europe and I'm not going back unless I get paid.
00:53:02.000 And I'm not like, I'm not talking about whether it be for this or to go back and play shows and go on tour.
00:53:10.000 I'm not going back to Europe unless I get paid.
00:53:12.000 I got invited to Dubai and I said, for what?
00:53:17.000 And they were like, for a speaking event.
00:53:18.000 And I said, sure, what does it pay?
00:53:20.000 And they were like, no, no, we're just going to fly.
00:53:21.000 And I was like, click.
00:53:24.000 Not doing it.
00:53:25.000 If there's an above board publicly available event where there's a reason I would speak at in my expertise, I'm not going to discriminate.
00:53:32.000 I think that's silly.
00:53:33.000 However, taking an undisclosed trip from a special interest group for the purpose of an ideological tour is something dramatically different.
00:53:40.000 Like, if they publicly tweeted, like, we got invited to go to Poland and go on a Holocaust tour, I feel like it's worth checking out.
00:53:46.000 I'll let you guys know what I find.
00:53:47.000 I'd be like, yes, totally fine.
00:53:48.000 Yeah.
00:53:49.000 I mean, I wouldn't go on that tour for sure.
00:53:50.000 The Dubai one's a little bit more enticing just because I want to go to Dubai.
00:53:53.000 But yeah, I mean, it's like, yeah.
00:53:55.000 I was just, honestly, when I was first thinking, I was just thinking about that in comparison to like, here's money, say this.
00:54:02.000 A completely different ballgame.
00:54:04.000 I'm like, well, I guess if they go on a trip, whatever.
00:54:05.000 But you're right.
00:54:06.000 Like, actually, the trip itself is actually.
00:54:09.000 I got invited to speak at an event in Tel Aviv.
00:54:13.000 And this was 15, no, this was 13 years ago.
00:54:19.000 I went, spoke at an event, left.
00:54:22.000 There was nothing overtly ideological about it.
00:54:24.000 It was like, I can't remember exactly what it was.
00:54:25.000 It was a news and technology conference.
00:54:28.000 I wouldn't go.
00:54:30.000 Today, it's dramatically different.
00:54:32.000 Back then, it was like.
00:54:34.000 It's a published, your name's on the list.
00:54:36.000 We're going to put the flyers out there.
00:54:37.000 Everyone knows you're coming to speak at this event.
00:54:39.000 And so, you know, that was it.
00:54:41.000 Was it like it just happened to be there or was it like connected to, you know, one of these kind of like.
00:54:48.000 You can probably look it up because it's been like 10 years.
00:54:49.000 I don't remember exactly, but.
00:54:51.000 Do they pay more or less than what your going rate was?
00:54:52.000 They didn't pay me at all.
00:54:53.000 Oh.
00:54:54.000 It was a speaking tour thing.
00:54:57.000 So it was like, again, I can't remember exactly the details, but it was like speaking at a university or something like that.
00:55:02.000 I got it.
00:55:04.000 I've spoken in Bergen, Norway, and Marrakesh for similar things where it's like in Amsterdam.
00:55:14.000 They have like news conventions and conferences on technology.
00:55:17.000 But my attitude is if it's like if the organization is non ideological or it's ideologically diverse, like there's going to be a debate happening, if the event is publicly known and your name's on the flyer, I have no problem with that.
00:55:28.000 Yeah.
00:55:29.000 I don't know if you guys saw the Max Blumenthal post on Twitter with a video of Netanyahu saying that it.
00:55:35.000 He's basically claiming that the quotes are crazy.
00:55:39.000 Oh, I saw it.
00:55:39.000 It took a long time to get the U.S. to come to its senses, but due to his up to 1,000 hours on American television, he's finally got us to do the right things.
00:55:48.000 That's totally fake.
00:55:49.000 It might be.
00:55:50.000 No, no, no, no.
00:55:52.000 I'm not saying those quotes are fake.
00:55:53.000 I'm saying Netanyahu's argument that he's convinced Americans is a lie.
00:55:58.000 He's campaigning right now in Israel, and this is his campaign to the Israelis how he can manipulate the Americans.
00:56:04.000 Yeah, he can't.
00:56:06.000 If Israeli money is trying to get you to go do things, you got to understand the PM of Israel talks to the Israeli people like this.
00:56:12.000 If it's true, it's a crazy thing to hear him say out loud.
00:56:15.000 He's just saying it in Hebrew.
00:56:16.000 Why?
00:56:17.000 Whatever language he's speaking.
00:56:17.000 The point.
00:56:18.000 This stuff is so cringe.
00:56:19.000 He's pretty much saying it to his population.
00:56:22.000 He wants to get reelected.
00:56:24.000 Why wouldn't he take credit for it?
00:56:25.000 I mean, he's like, I told Trump to light up the Ayatollah, and he did it.
00:56:30.000 So you guys don't want me to be the guy?
00:56:31.000 Look at what a badass guy.
00:56:32.000 Yeah, look at it.
00:56:33.000 I got him to kill the religious leader, and he believed he'd be able to knock over the whole government in seven days.
00:56:37.000 He bought that.
00:56:38.000 And he's not lying.
00:56:39.000 The Israelis instigated that attack.
00:56:40.000 And the Americans then followed.
00:56:42.000 So, but this is like, it's the Israeli move of consolidation of goodwill towards, you know, the movement of the Jewish people.
00:56:51.000 It's pretty, pretty blatant.
00:56:53.000 Well, I have to argue there's two simultaneous conspiracy theories then, Ian.
00:56:57.000 One is that they're manipulating the United States to build favor towards them, but that they're also manipulating the U.S. to build hatred towards them for the purpose of the Messiah's emergence.
00:57:08.000 So, like you were saying earlier, they are controlling the opposition as well.
00:57:12.000 No.
00:57:12.000 Conspiracy.
00:57:13.000 That it's completely incongruous and makes no sense.
00:57:15.000 Because when Israel does things like lobbies the United States to build favor, everyone says, see, this proves it.
00:57:22.000 But then when YouTube props up big channels and accounts and the left, Democratic Party, and Democratic Socialists are absolutely anti Israel and the Young Turks get a bunch of views and Canada gets a bunch of views, they're like, oh, that's on purpose too.
00:57:34.000 So I'm like, well, they're both simultaneously wanting everyone to like and hate them.
00:57:36.000 Like, sorry, it just makes no sense.
00:57:38.000 A good villain would definitely create good messages about them and then create an evil thing that hates them so that they.
00:57:45.000 Can destroy it.
00:57:46.000 I think it makes more sense that the BRICS nations want to destabilize U.S. operations in the Middle East.
00:57:52.000 So they have reasons to sow discord as it relates to U.S. and Israel relations.
00:57:56.000 I should also just verify I'm not even anti Israeli United States military forces because I think the alternative could be much worse.
00:58:03.000 Oh, Ian's pro.
00:58:04.000 He wants to annex Gaza.
00:58:05.000 Oh, I think the current situation is like this is every reason that we wanted to not get involved in foreign wars.
00:58:12.000 It's like, look at the situation we're in.
00:58:14.000 It's like worst case scenario.
00:58:15.000 But as far as the channels that you're talking about, there are some.
00:58:19.000 So.
00:58:20.000 You know, like Anna Kasparian, yeah, she goes hard on Israel, but like her arguments are based in like things that are happening.
00:58:27.000 There are like, there are some channels that I've stumbled onto recently where I'm like, how is this still on YouTube?
00:58:35.000 Like, it's like stuff where they're like, I think one of the titles of one of the videos was like, this six million lie and like, you know, just stuff where you're like, dude, if I would have even mentioned one of those words on Twitter four years ago, they would have kicked me off the planet.
00:58:51.000 And they're like, the whole entire video list is all that stuff.
00:58:53.000 I'm like, I don't understand what's happening.
00:58:54.000 Is this like a trap to see who will like comment on it or like what?
00:58:58.000 I don't know.
00:58:58.000 Some of the what is it called?
00:59:00.000 Holocaust denialism.
00:59:02.000 It used to be called Holocaust revisionism because they were like, well, let's be accurate about the numbers.
00:59:06.000 Let's find out exactly what happened because some people think that during the Allied bombing campaign at the end of the war, they were just indiscriminately obliterating German infrastructure and they cut off the supplies to a lot of the camps.
00:59:16.000 And then the Jews started starving in the camps because the Allies didn't know they were there and they blew it.
00:59:21.000 So it's like this tragedy.
00:59:22.000 But making it look like the Nazis were the bad guys and the Jews were the target really does drum up a lot of sympathy.
00:59:28.000 So people are like, hold on, hold on.
00:59:30.000 And maybe people are a little more open to hearing all sides of that argument.
00:59:34.000 I mean, that stuff could be true for all I know.
00:59:36.000 I have no idea.
00:59:37.000 I just stay off all that.
00:59:39.000 If I don't know about it, I'm just like.
00:59:40.000 The Nazis were very meticulous record takers.
00:59:43.000 So there are Nazi logs of what was going on and what happened.
00:59:50.000 Like when Hitler had the option of either ramping up the death camps or reinforcing the front.
00:59:56.000 He chose to ramp up the death camps because he's like, Well, I'm only going to draw the war out a little longer if I reinforce the front.
01:00:04.000 But if we go ahead and ramp up the death camps, we can kill a lot more people.
01:00:07.000 So stuff like that gets just like, it's like, it's the same exact thing where you're kind of like, Well, that might be true.
01:00:16.000 There's, I think a lot of the World War II conversation is easily exploitable because most people don't actually read the entirety of the history.
01:00:24.000 We've got every single Life magazine out there.
01:00:26.000 You can go read what everyone thought.
01:00:28.000 At the time, before, during, and after.
01:00:29.000 And it changes radically.
01:00:31.000 And so, what happens is you get someone now with a cursory knowledge of the Holocaust.
01:00:36.000 It's very easy for someone to pick apart something you don't understand.
01:00:39.000 So, this is why the flat Earth stuff does well.
01:00:42.000 Most people don't know the speed of the rotation of the Earth.
01:00:45.000 So, you get a flat earther who says, Do you know the speed of the rotation of the Earth?
01:00:48.000 And he goes, Huh.
01:00:48.000 And they go, No.
01:00:49.000 So, you never even bothered looking into whether the Earth was round or flat.
01:00:51.000 And you think you know.
01:00:53.000 And this makes people say, That's a good point, actually.
01:00:55.000 So, it's easy to get people who don't study something to believe something if.
01:01:00.000 They think you're the expert.
01:01:01.000 But suffice it to say, I think my point is made on that, right?
01:01:08.000 If you didn't actually read all of the nuances and how long it took and why it happened, I've heard some pretty ridiculous arguments from people where they say things that are really obvious, like supplies were cut.
01:01:19.000 That's why there were camps.
01:01:21.000 And the people were starving because there was no food.
01:01:23.000 And it's like, uh huh.
01:01:24.000 And why did he put them in the camps?
01:01:26.000 Yeah, repopulation.
01:01:27.000 They wanted to.
01:01:27.000 No, he wanted to remove undesirables who were a threat.
01:01:30.000 That's what repopulation is.
01:01:31.000 It's a wartime measurement where you take a populace and take it out of your country somehow.
01:01:35.000 Right, which included foolish people.
01:01:37.000 Undesirables.
01:01:38.000 And then.
01:01:39.000 When the war was getting tough, he was like, cut off the supplies to these people, let them die, and then you don't want them to revolt, so kill them.
01:01:45.000 Like, this is, I don't want to, we don't need to talk about it.
01:01:48.000 And it could be all those things, could have happened at once.
01:01:49.000 Could have been bombing campaigns, killing some supplies, and others were ramping up the killings.
01:01:55.000 One of it was a railway got bombed, and that cut off supplies.
01:01:59.000 So they were like, kill everyone.
01:02:01.000 And I'm sure a lot of it had to do with how ruthless the commander of that particular camp was.
01:02:05.000 Like, some of them were probably like, you know, oh, let's get free labor out of these guys, and others were like, Just merciless.
01:02:13.000 I'm sure there were some that were a lot worse than others.
01:02:15.000 Yeah.
01:02:15.000 And worse since then and worse before.
01:02:19.000 The communists, the gulags, all of that stuff.
01:02:22.000 I mean, this is unfortunately, I think people need to realize the things humans are capable of are not even in the worst horror films.
01:02:29.000 Like, what's that Japanese unit?
01:02:31.000 I always forget the number.
01:02:32.000 Yeah, 731.
01:02:32.000 Or 731.
01:02:33.000 Unit 731.
01:02:34.000 Took a guy's arm through a hole, froze it, pulled it in, and then shattered it just to see what would happen.
01:02:40.000 That's why I brought up internment camps in general.
01:02:42.000 I want people to.
01:02:43.000 To at least know how horrible it could get without having to experience it.
01:02:47.000 Well, it's not possible.
01:02:48.000 And it's why, like.
01:02:49.000 Ask Michael Malice.
01:02:50.000 It's why I don't like to.
01:02:50.000 Ask Milo, dude.
01:02:51.000 He's like, his whole opinion has now flipped on everything because he went through it.
01:02:56.000 I'm like, damn, this guy got arrested.
01:02:56.000 That's what he was saying on Pierce.
01:02:58.000 I do want to talk about that.
01:02:59.000 So let's move forward and jump to this story.
01:03:01.000 This is from NBC News.
01:03:01.000 This is a big one.
01:03:03.000 Florida bans flock cameras and other license plate readers from state highways.
01:03:07.000 So DeSantis came out and he basically said they've been abused.
01:03:10.000 We've got a bunch of law enforcement officers that were like spying on ex girlfriends.
01:03:14.000 So enough of this.
01:03:15.000 We're going to ban this on our highways.
01:03:17.000 So now the debate is lighting up.
01:03:19.000 And interestingly enough, there's like left and right are morphing right now, right?
01:03:25.000 So you've got people on the right defending flock while the left is largely opposed to it.
01:03:31.000 And many people who were on the right are now agreeing with the left on flock cameras.
01:03:35.000 We've got this post.
01:03:36.000 Give a shout out to Cam Higbee.
01:03:39.000 He says, Why do I care so much about flock?
01:03:43.000 Because the anti flock crowd is presuming they have a right to privacy in public.
01:03:47.000 If that right existed, my entire job would be null.
01:03:50.000 The same for Nick Shirley, the same for James O'Keefe, the same for every single person who makes a living exposing corrupt, fraudulent, or criminal behavior in public and on camera.
01:03:57.000 If we lose the right and ability to film people in public without consent, journalism is dead.
01:04:03.000 To which I responded Mass government surveillance is the antithesis of free and independent journalism.
01:04:10.000 A decentralized, independent press can be protected without allowing warrantless mass surveillance.
01:04:14.000 This is not zero sum.
01:04:15.000 To which Cam responds Tim, true or false?
01:04:18.000 The same legal doctrine that allows for flock cameras allows for filming individuals on the streets without consent.
01:04:23.000 False.
01:04:24.000 But I'll get back to that.
01:04:25.000 It's absolutely zero sum.
01:04:26.000 Eliminate the legal doctrine, kill the press.
01:04:28.000 Give the right to privacy in public.
01:04:30.000 Now, the physical attacks that myself and so many of our friends have fallen victim to are self defense.
01:04:34.000 We are sued into oblivion or put in jail.
01:04:37.000 The push to give this privacy, albeit selectively, has already begun in California with the Stop Nick Shirley Act.
01:04:41.000 There is no right to privacy in public.
01:04:43.000 There never has been.
01:04:44.000 Government agencies don't need warrants to observe you in public.
01:04:47.000 They never have.
01:04:48.000 There is a distinction between the right to be filmed in public and paying tax dollars and labor to the government to set up automatic license plate reader cameras all over our cities, our states, and for the purpose of accusing us of crimes without a human behind the accusation.
01:05:10.000 Okay, so now that we've concluded a moral difference in you on the ground with a camera and a police officer arresting you because a camera claimed you committed a crime.
01:05:20.000 We can now move on from this conversation, right?
01:05:21.000 Yeah, it's taxpayer money.
01:05:22.000 That's the big thing.
01:05:23.000 If Cam Higby set up a thousand cameras on corners to record, you better believe the community is going to come rip those down too, Cam.
01:05:31.000 Oh, wait, hold on a minute.
01:05:33.000 Wait, I responded immediately to his post.
01:05:37.000 Are you receiving any benefit in any way from an interested party, be it government or private, as it relates to ALPR?
01:05:44.000 He didn't respond.
01:05:45.000 The thing is, like, he's not making a bad point about it's like, You, if you are the victim of a crime, or like, let's say you drop your car off at a valet and it gets stolen, which happened to me.
01:05:59.000 And if there was a camera you could just go review, you're like, oh, that guy did it.
01:06:04.000 You want it there, then it's the fact the conversation that we talked about before this that I had in the car with your guys' guests last night about how it's being applied in the UK that that changed.
01:06:12.000 Like, that was the first time where I was like, oh, this flock thing is actually a really big deal.
01:06:16.000 What happened?
01:06:16.000 Where he was saying that during COVID, they were not allowed to leave their house more than once a day to go get food.
01:06:23.000 And if they did, The second that they got out on the road, the cops would come snatch him up and arrest him.
01:06:28.000 And it was all because they had the community cameras.
01:06:33.000 They were on film all the time.
01:06:35.000 And so they were enforcing these insane.
01:06:36.000 So it's like what makes it complicated is the fact that we've already seen this system used for draconian, tyrannical, completely unreasonable nonsense in a country that resembles ours at least somewhat.
01:06:50.000 I've heard that in China, the cameras are positioned so that if you say words, it can read your lips and determine what you were saying.
01:06:57.000 And then it can track people's speech that way, and we'll come pick you up if you've said something wrong.
01:07:02.000 I got to throw out this question again because apparently Cam's been asked more than once and he has not responded.
01:07:08.000 What was the question?
01:07:10.000 So my question was let me go to where I.
01:07:15.000 Well, like imagine you got in a fight with a dude or something.
01:07:19.000 Real quick.
01:07:19.000 Are you receiving any benefit in any way from an interested party, be it government or private, as it relates to ALPR?
01:07:27.000 What's ALPR?
01:07:27.000 Oh, I see.
01:07:28.000 Automated license plate readers.
01:07:30.000 So, Flock is just one brand of ALPRs.
01:07:32.000 And someone else asked him, and he said, and he responded, let's debate it.
01:07:36.000 Someone said, Are you being paid for this or are you just retarded?
01:07:39.000 Which, of course, he's probably not going to respond to.
01:07:40.000 I asked this.
01:07:41.000 I responded to him right when he posted it.
01:07:42.000 He didn't respond to me.
01:07:43.000 So, look, the reason I asked this is because his argument is so willfully obtuse.
01:07:55.000 Cam is too smart to have actually tried to use that argument, especially on me.
01:08:02.000 I will say it with the least amount of humility possible.
01:08:05.000 That might work on a layman, but it's not going to work on me.
01:08:09.000 So why bother saying it unless the purpose was you are receiving some benefit, be it a favor, be it money, or otherwise?
01:08:17.000 I think the legal philosophy of your right to record people in public, I understand that.
01:08:23.000 It has nothing to do with the argument on flock.
01:08:25.000 Right.
01:08:26.000 Having a government take taxpayer money to witness its own people, to record its own citizens, is a Different story than non government actors.
01:08:37.000 And someone working for the government is definitely allowed to go outside and use their camera, as far as I know.
01:08:41.000 Let me put it like this I am not a traditional conservative pro lifer.
01:08:47.000 So, I ask liberals, why are they legalizing abortion to the point of birth?
01:08:53.000 And you know what they say every time?
01:08:55.000 No, they're not.
01:08:56.000 It never happens.
01:08:57.000 What do you mean they're not?
01:08:59.000 Well, I was just playing the ball.
01:09:00.000 No, no, no, no.
01:09:01.000 That's what they say.
01:09:01.000 They say.
01:09:02.000 Well, yes, but that doesn't happen.
01:09:04.000 It never happens.
01:09:05.000 And then I said, okay, so it never happens.
01:09:07.000 Then why legalize it?
01:09:09.000 Well, why do you care it's legalized?
01:09:10.000 It never happens.
01:09:11.000 And I said, because maybe legalizing it will make it happen.
01:09:14.000 You are not arguing.
01:09:16.000 Anything when you run these lies.
01:09:18.000 So when I say, and everyone else says, they are setting up 100,000 AI cameras to track our license plates, which is warrantless mass surveillance, my concern is a few things a network of mass surveillance, the expenditure on the public, and the false accusations that have arisen from it, because accusations in law must be from a human being, not a machine.
01:09:44.000 I'll throw in one for bonus the criminal element where these people behind the flock cameras used it for nefarious ends.
01:09:50.000 I'm not going to argue because people commit crimes, you shouldn't have a system.
01:09:54.000 But that's the argument.
01:09:55.000 No one argued the government can't film me.
01:09:57.000 There's Taru cops in New York, they walk around with cameras.
01:10:00.000 I've never said they couldn't do that.
01:10:02.000 But the idea that the government can set up automatic cameras that can accuse you of crimes this is why I oppose red light cameras or automatic speed cameras.
01:10:11.000 Because a robot accuses you of a crime.
01:10:14.000 We had this happen to us a couple of years ago.
01:10:16.000 I get a ticket in the mail for one of our business vehicles, and it said, blew a red light.
01:10:21.000 And it literally shows our car stop at the red light and then make a right turn.
01:10:25.000 It shows like four frames, and the car stops, stopped, and then you see it turning right.
01:10:30.000 And they said, We blew the light.
01:10:31.000 And now I have to take time out of my day, go to court, or pay the $75 and admit guilt to something I didn't do, my company didn't do.
01:10:39.000 And they argue, Because it's not witnessed by a human, it's not criminal, it's civil.
01:10:45.000 So you got to pay us $75 now for this thing.
01:10:48.000 And I'm sitting there being like, Don't play games with me.
01:10:51.000 Forcing me to pay you money is a penalty for what you have on the books as a crime, and you're calling it civil so that a robot can do it.
01:10:59.000 That's my problem with Flock.
01:11:01.000 So, for what purpose would someone come out and go, they're trying to make it so we can't do journalism anymore?
01:11:06.000 No, we aren't.
01:11:07.000 No one's argued that.
01:11:08.000 Yeah, the journalism point is super weird.
01:11:10.000 And also, to your point about the AI layer that's going to be in there, it's another one of those things that I just don't, people just don't understand what's coming down the pipeline with AI.
01:11:20.000 And if everyone's on camera all the time and you're adding in that layer, they're going to be tracking people's biometrics by the gate.
01:11:29.000 I mean, every single.
01:11:30.000 They have gate tracking where they walk.
01:11:33.000 They'll be able to look and tell what mood a person's in based on things like the AI is going to have people clocked on a level that is just beyond Facebook already knows what you want to eat.
01:11:43.000 It's reading my mind.
01:11:44.000 Do you feel like it's reading your mind sometimes?
01:11:46.000 It's listening to every word right now.
01:11:48.000 Probably is.
01:11:49.000 But here's the thing literally, it's listening to you, and we'll give you an ad for this tomorrow.
01:11:53.000 Listen, the AI.
01:11:55.000 So, have you guys seen the video where the oncologist shows lung cancer and he's like, the AI found it before a human could?
01:12:02.000 They showed us an MRI or a scan of lungs.
01:12:05.000 And the AI circled cancers.
01:12:08.000 And they were like, we couldn't see it.
01:12:11.000 So I think what they did was they knew someone had cancer and they took earlier scans of them and the AI correctly showed where the cancer was before it actually emerged.
01:12:18.000 Before they had identified it on the later images.
01:12:20.000 Right.
01:12:21.000 Because the AI can see things we can't.
01:12:23.000 Yeah.
01:12:24.000 And so what's going on, what's happening now with Facebook is that you might share a meme of a skunk to your friend.
01:12:34.000 And then your GPS tracks that you walk 10 meters to the kitchen and 10 meters back.
01:12:39.000 Then.
01:12:39.000 You text your friend a meme about a guy, you know, holding limes who's falling down.
01:12:46.000 Facebook sees these things and says, there is a 72.1% chance this person wants to eat a burrito.
01:12:51.000 You don't even know it yet.
01:12:52.000 And then all of a sudden, the ad pops up for a burrito coupon, 20% off a Chipotle, and you go, I do want to go to Chipotle.
01:12:57.000 And you do.
01:12:58.000 Dude, the craziest example of that that ever happened to me was I was at Mike McDaniel's house in Miami, the Dolphins head coach, who's a.
01:13:05.000 He married one of my best friend's little sisters, so we're pretty close to them.
01:13:08.000 And like, we're actually really close to them.
01:13:10.000 But.
01:13:10.000 I'm talking to his wife about his new jacket that was like she had hung up for him or whatever.
01:13:16.000 I'm like, dude, that jacket is amazing.
01:13:17.000 My phone's in my pocket.
01:13:19.000 So she walks me into their room closet, whatever.
01:13:24.000 And we were talking about their walk back.
01:13:25.000 I pulled my phone out and I opened Instagram and it showed me an ad for the identical jacket, except accurately priced for my price range.
01:13:36.000 So it was like, they're like, oh, he makes, you know, whatever, $10 million a year.
01:13:40.000 You are obviously not going to buy a $2,500 jacket, whatever that one was.
01:13:45.000 It looked exactly the same and it was $300.
01:13:46.000 And I was like, Was it that one?
01:13:49.000 It was much cooler.
01:13:51.000 But I was like, Whoa.
01:13:52.000 I'm like, It was in my pocket.
01:13:53.000 It was listening to what we were talking about.
01:13:55.000 It knew that I had walked into the closet with her, commented on the jacket, and then it advertised.
01:13:59.000 And it literally was the same.
01:14:00.000 It must have gone into her phone, looked at what had just gotten shipped to them.
01:14:05.000 So it knew what color it was.
01:14:06.000 It was exactly the same.
01:14:07.000 You want to know the freakiest thing I ever saw was I went to, when I was living in North Jersey, I went to Walmart with my brother and In one of the aisles was a stack of TVs on sale.
01:14:20.000 So, like, you know, they have the clearance items.
01:14:21.000 So they're all lined up.
01:14:23.000 I get home and I set up my computer and I open Facebook and there was an ad with the exact picture of the TVs we had just walked past.
01:14:30.000 Because they had GPS where you were and they knew you had seen it.
01:14:32.000 So, yeah.
01:14:33.000 Walmart probably already had the ads queued up for their clearance TVs.
01:14:36.000 The phone tracked my location, gave it to Facebook.
01:14:39.000 Facebook served me the ad.
01:14:42.000 I warned people about mass surveillance and that they would, the attempt is to get you to want.
01:14:47.000 To be mass surveilled.
01:14:48.000 So the mass immigrations, the illegal immigrations, how do we find these criminals?
01:14:52.000 The crime is on the rise.
01:14:53.000 How do we find them?
01:14:54.000 Set up flock cameras.
01:14:56.000 And then I've got like Will Chamber, Will being like, we need safety, bro.
01:15:00.000 I keep thinking about the Ben Franklin quote.
01:15:02.000 Here, let me tell you what Ben Franklin said, Will.
01:15:05.000 Those who would give up their essential liberties for a little temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
01:15:11.000 Yes.
01:15:12.000 So here's the point that I have if they were actually arresting gangbangers and putting them in prison for a long time, I might have different opinions on Flock cameras.
01:15:20.000 Agreed.
01:15:21.000 Except they let them out.
01:15:22.000 They're advocating to defund the police, abolish prisons.
01:15:25.000 They're not prosecuting these people.
01:15:26.000 So, what do you think they're going to use these cameras for?
01:15:29.000 Like what you said about it with England, how if the government decides that another virus warrants shutting the world down and they've got cameras on every street corner, it's going to be a lot harder to protest.
01:15:38.000 Guys, can we just real quick?
01:15:41.000 What are you even investing in Flock for?
01:15:42.000 I got to be honest.
01:15:44.000 If it were me, I'm not going to give anybody financial advice.
01:15:46.000 Flock is the worst company to put money in.
01:15:49.000 ALPR is the worst.
01:15:52.000 Company to put money in.
01:15:53.000 You want to know why?
01:15:55.000 The automated fleets of cars that come from Uber and Tesla, the cabs that are on the street, they're going to make up half the fleet, are covered in cameras.
01:16:03.000 You don't need to spend money on Flock when in three years, all the automated taxis are filming.
01:16:08.000 Listen, those, what are they called?
01:16:10.000 The Zooks or whatever, the Zooms in Vegas.
01:16:13.000 They're like little shoe boxes with no, they just have seats facing each other and they've got cameras everywhere that's filming everything 24 7.
01:16:21.000 You put 10,000 of those on the road in New York.
01:16:23.000 You don't need flock.
01:16:24.000 Yeah, we're sad.
01:16:25.000 Flock, there will be areas that you'll need stationary cameras to cover areas just in case there happens to not be a vehicle there when something happens, you know?
01:16:34.000 Right, right.
01:16:35.000 But what I'm saying is these are license plate readers, they're on streets, they're not in subways.
01:16:38.000 So, if that's all they do is read license plates?
01:16:42.000 Yeah.
01:16:43.000 You're right that these are, we're in the age of surveillance in a lot of ways with your own phones surveilling you, the cars pointing cameras outwards, but that's still not a reason to usher it in faster.
01:16:53.000 It's not.
01:16:54.000 And you should still protest mass surveillance warrantlessly.
01:16:57.000 It's not good for you and it can be turned on you on a dime.
01:17:01.000 And you've opted into the phone.
01:17:02.000 Like you cannot be surveilled by your phone tomorrow.
01:17:04.000 Just get a flip phone that doesn't have all of the, you know, the gadgets that you want.
01:17:08.000 It's like when, when, When I like one time, we were at the airport and my wife said something about like our biometrics.
01:17:15.000 I'm like, Gabriel, we have uh, we have clear.
01:17:17.000 I'm like, we opted into giving our biometrics up because we wanted to skip the line.
01:17:21.000 Like, 23 and me, people sending their genetics to the Chinese government.
01:17:24.000 I wouldn't, I would not have done that in hindsight.
01:17:27.000 I did 23.
01:17:28.000 I haven't done that.
01:17:29.000 Gene warfare is probably going to be the next evolution of what about the new uh, the new 19 viruses that they created with AI and they uh, and then they cultured them in E. coli.
01:17:40.000 Uh, they're they're viable, like they uh, They had AI write the genetic code or the genome for never before created viruses.
01:17:50.000 They said that one of them they tested would have taken a million years for it to evolve to where they wrote it, which is something that humans should do for some reason.
01:18:01.000 Kind of awesome.
01:18:02.000 Well, the one reason you would want to write a virus is to have it rewrite your DNA, make a retrovirus that can rewrite your DNA back to normal.
01:18:11.000 So that if we ever get poisoned, genetically altered, you can fix yourself with the human virus.
01:18:15.000 Not just back to normal, but.
01:18:16.000 They're right now working on being able to use your DNA to actually make you younger.
01:18:24.000 Well, I like that extending life.
01:18:26.000 They're doing it in the eye right now.
01:18:27.000 They like to do stuff in the eyes because it's enclosed, but they're curing blindness.
01:18:32.000 They're starting to make do human trials on stuff to be able to rewrite the DNA so you literally stop aging and will get younger.
01:18:41.000 Because I'll be so pissed if they invent that.
01:18:43.000 Like, and they're like, but you have to be under 70.
01:18:45.000 And I'm like, 78.
01:18:46.000 No, no, you think is no, no, no.
01:18:49.000 What's gonna happen is they're gonna say.
01:18:51.000 Unfortunately, after 63, you no longer have enough viable stem cells.
01:18:56.000 But we can use these stem cells from this young Mexican girl in you, which means you will be young again, but you will slowly become a young Mexican girl.
01:19:06.000 The thing is that.
01:19:07.000 The thing is that.
01:19:09.000 I was going to make an adrenochrome joke.
01:19:10.000 There was an adrenochrome joke there somewhere.
01:19:13.000 So the point is a lot of the stem cell stuff they do in Mexico is they harvest umbilical stem cells from babies.
01:19:20.000 None of them are dead.
01:19:21.000 And then they culture them and grow an insane amount of them and use them for regenerative therapies.
01:19:26.000 So, you know, a lot of these UFC guys, they've got the genetics of like, you know, a Mexican girl in their ligaments.
01:19:34.000 You're all out there slinging somebody.
01:19:34.000 It would be the greatest thing to do.
01:19:35.000 The genetics of a six year old girl.
01:19:37.000 Yeah.
01:19:37.000 They don't know they're babies.
01:19:38.000 They're newborn babies.
01:19:40.000 So it's just newborn stem cells.
01:19:42.000 The process that I'm talking about, what it does is it literally goes back and fixes your DNA.
01:19:49.000 And it was actually in 2006 when I believe Yakamoto.
01:19:55.000 This guy named Royal Yakimoto basically figured out how to do it.
01:20:01.000 But the part that they were trying to, that they couldn't control, was fixing the whole thing, basically making your DNA go back to stem cells.
01:20:10.000 So you're not actually going to, if you need stem cells, which I don't think you will in the future, but like they actually make cells go all the way back, stop being heart cells, stop being skin cells.
01:20:20.000 They go back to being blanks.
01:20:21.000 They go back to being blanks.
01:20:23.000 So I put a video up on Sunday that was an interview that I did with.
01:20:29.000 Gentleman who owns a red light, like one of these super high end red light technologies.
01:20:33.000 And he was citing research where you actually will have more stem cell production from this red light therapy than you would if you go get stem cells like at a clinic.
01:20:49.000 Believe me, this is not, I mean, I can't cite the study, but it's in the video.
01:20:54.000 And I'm like, wait, so it's your own stem cells?
01:20:56.000 And I'm like, how come everybody doesn't know about that?
01:20:56.000 He's like, yeah.
01:20:58.000 Cells can become specialized and then revert back into stem cell form.
01:21:02.000 They can, they extend and withdraw what's called the.
01:21:07.000 Endoplasmic reticulum, and they've got these tubules that come out and they can withdraw them and become back into stem state.
01:21:13.000 And then, but they really just become part of what they're surrounded by.
01:21:16.000 So you would need to take it away and then put it somewhere else, but they can become and no longer be.
01:21:23.000 So maybe red light incites that.
01:21:24.000 It's amazing.
01:21:25.000 Like you can feel it on your face.
01:21:27.000 Like I, you know, it's my wife is trying to get me to do red light for like years.
01:21:31.000 And then I finally talked to this guy and she's like, Are you, I was telling her about it.
01:21:34.000 She's like, Are you serious?
01:21:34.000 I've been telling you about this for six years, guy.
01:21:37.000 I apologize.
01:21:38.000 I got the guy's name wrong.
01:21:39.000 It was Yamanaka.
01:21:40.000 What do you mean?
01:21:41.000 His name is Shinya Yamanaka, published a landmark 2006 study of induced pluripotent stem cells in the journal Cell.
01:21:50.000 I wonder if you invented that, would you let the public know or would you just keep it for you and your people?
01:21:55.000 You've got to let the public know, dude.
01:21:56.000 That was Lucifer, what Lucifer wanted to do.
01:21:58.000 Why wouldn't you think about what the stock price of your company would do if you did that?
01:22:04.000 So they're talking about using AI to develop molecular construction technologies?
01:22:11.000 So, cells are built through molecular construction, but it's like rudimentary evolutionary.
01:22:15.000 And I was talking to Nate Soros about this on the Tim Pool show, subscribe.
01:22:20.000 And he was saying that the AI is going to give us the schematics for implementing more efficient molecular construction, in which case, immortality, done.
01:22:30.000 The first thing that happens is instant immortality, meaning cellular damage to your heart is instantly repaired through molecular construction.
01:22:37.000 But where this goes is where it gets really, really weird.
01:22:41.000 They could actually be like, okay, so Ian, you've always wanted to be a cat girl waifu.
01:22:47.000 So we have the gene therapy for that.
01:22:49.000 It's going to take seven years of genetic shifting where your body will be slowly molecularly deconstructed.
01:22:56.000 Because imagine, so I'd imagine it would probably take like 17 or 18 years.
01:23:03.000 How long it takes for a human body to fully develop, right?
01:23:05.000 It takes decades.
01:23:06.000 But with hyper efficient molecular construction, they could rewrite your entire body in seven years.
01:23:13.000 And then you'd be the 20 year old anime cat girl you've always wanted to be.
01:23:16.000 Or I could be like LeBron.
01:23:18.000 I'm like, I want to be LeBron.
01:23:19.000 Yep.
01:23:20.000 Yep.
01:23:21.000 And then I wonder is like, one of the things we hypothesized is you go to the clinic and they say it'll take seven years of constant treatments or will induce a coma for two years.
01:23:31.000 And when you awaken, you will be in the new body that you requested.
01:23:35.000 Yeah.
01:23:36.000 If they put you in a vat of DNA polymerase and you just like a back to tank.
01:23:39.000 And it's.
01:23:40.000 So what was that word?
01:23:41.000 DNA polymerase?
01:23:42.000 Back to tank.
01:23:43.000 It's the protein that when DNA gets cut in half by this.
01:23:48.000 This protein called heliocase.
01:23:49.000 It comes down and breaks the bonds and then it opens up.
01:23:52.000 The DNA polymerase comes in and slathers the side of it to make new.
01:23:56.000 It knows what fits on each rung so that it goes bleh and then makes a new strand of DNA from one of the two.
01:24:04.000 Imagine how long it would take if we could fully regenerate, like your arm gets cut off.
01:24:08.000 Imagine how long it would take to regrow an arm.
01:24:10.000 Years.
01:24:11.000 Or it just needs to be really hot because speed and time are all connected.
01:24:16.000 So the hotter things get, the faster they get.
01:24:18.000 Technically, To be honest, if we do have an AI that can map out molecular construction, you could go into a stem cell vat and it could probably just start building and changing everything.
01:24:28.000 With lasers or with some high powered heat.
01:24:30.000 You get a lot more.
01:24:31.000 No, not even.
01:24:32.000 I mean, you're surrounded by every single mechanism altering your cells in real time.
01:24:37.000 Like a stand up tanning bed.
01:24:38.000 Maybe it's red light there.
01:24:40.000 It's the red light they shine on you.
01:24:41.000 Yeah.
01:24:42.000 Back to tank, looking more and more real by the day.
01:24:44.000 That's Luke Skywalker getting his arm regenerated after Darth Vader sliced it off.
01:24:48.000 They put him in a tank of fluid and then it over an undisclosed amount of time.
01:24:52.000 It's almost like 3D printed, but organic 3D printing.
01:24:55.000 Maybe that's after he got attacked by the snow monster I'm thinking of.
01:25:01.000 Because he put on a metal hand, he had a cybernetic hand.
01:25:01.000 Yeah.
01:25:04.000 The wampa.
01:25:04.000 Wampa.
01:25:06.000 The wampa.
01:25:07.000 It's a wampa?
01:25:08.000 Yeah, you got to figure that the first iteration of all of that stuff, once they've determined that it's safe, is going to be so expensive.
01:25:14.000 And then it's going to be more because anyone with money is going to, they'll pay anything for that.
01:25:17.000 Oh, rich people are instantly immortal.
01:25:19.000 No, those are the first.
01:25:19.000 It'll probably dental.
01:25:20.000 No, those are the easiest cells to.
01:25:22.000 They've already figured it out.
01:25:23.000 You see the Japanese figure out how to grow teeth.
01:25:25.000 It's not going to be.
01:25:26.000 Yeah.
01:25:26.000 Come on.
01:25:27.000 Like they can grow teeth for, like if you.
01:25:29.000 So if you're old and your teeth are falling out, they can implant the cells and make a new tooth growth.
01:25:33.000 This is a product.
01:25:34.000 It's just not public, it's not commercial yet.
01:25:36.000 As soon as it is, I'm going to buy that.
01:25:38.000 Listen, youth is a product that literally the whole world will want to buy.
01:25:43.000 So it's better to sell it at a price that 7 billion people can afford.
01:25:48.000 But it won't be possible initially.
01:25:50.000 So I'll give you an example.
01:25:52.000 How many people here can afford stem cell therapy for worn ligaments?
01:25:56.000 Yeah, 25K, 25 to 50K per treatment, right?
01:25:59.000 Yep.
01:25:59.000 Yeah.
01:26:01.000 Sure, every old person needs to get their hip ligaments fixed.
01:26:05.000 Nobody can afford that.
01:26:07.000 I think that the price will become.
01:26:09.000 Sure, sure.
01:26:10.000 Maybe in 30 years.
01:26:11.000 Because of how many people.
01:26:13.000 When stem cells therapy is legal and ubiquitous, it will be cheap and effective.
01:26:19.000 Right now, the technology exists to regenerate ligaments in your bones and in your body, being used by UFC, which has a sponsor.
01:26:29.000 They sponsor Cellular Performance Institute.
01:26:33.000 Yeah, it's $20,000 to $50,000, depending on what you're going to get.
01:26:33.000 I went there.
01:26:36.000 Regular people cannot get that.
01:26:37.000 What were the results that you had?
01:26:38.000 Sorry, Stephanie.
01:26:40.000 I did a general thing and it was generally positive, but I actually thought I had, what was it, labrum tear, I think it was, and I did not actually have a tear.
01:26:51.000 So I think the issue that I was having was caused.
01:26:55.000 I'll put it as I stopped eating bread, problem was gone.
01:26:58.000 Bread, huh?
01:26:58.000 So I think it was.
01:26:59.000 Yeah, gluten.
01:27:00.000 My wife has gluten.
01:27:02.000 I think it was causing inflammation.
01:27:03.000 Inflammation is the root, in my opinion, of cancer in general, inflammation, cellular inflammation.
01:27:08.000 For me, I can, if I eat sugar, like.
01:27:11.000 Sugar is in, I can feel it in my ligaments and muscles almost instantaneously.
01:27:16.000 Like for days sometimes afterwards, after one dose.
01:27:19.000 Even if I haven't trained.
01:27:19.000 Super sore.
01:27:20.000 Wow.
01:27:21.000 Check this out.
01:27:23.000 I asked Grok hypothetically how long it would take to regrow a hand with molecular construction, and it says hours to days.
01:27:30.000 I like that option.
01:27:31.000 Yeah.
01:27:32.000 So it's living tissue through Fritis style cell mills.
01:27:37.000 I've actually seen this.
01:27:38.000 Have you seen where they create the framework of an organ and then they put stem cells on it and it grows the organ?
01:27:43.000 They've had this.
01:27:43.000 No, but I want to look that up.
01:27:44.000 That sounds like.
01:27:46.000 Yeah.
01:27:47.000 And it, how long does it take?
01:27:49.000 I don't even know how long it takes for like a blank to get the code and then like start.
01:27:54.000 RNA codes about 10 amino acids per second.
01:28:00.000 And then it builds those into like 37 of them, becomes a peptide.
01:28:04.000 And then I don't know how many peptides until you make a protein.
01:28:06.000 So it's like five to 10 per second is how it writes.
01:28:09.000 That's about the speed of the genome writing itself.
01:28:11.000 So the thing is, none of this research matters, right?
01:28:14.000 We got this from UCSF.
01:28:18.000 They're growing organs from scratch.
01:28:20.000 None of this matters.
01:28:21.000 All the research we're doing in every field is pointless because once we get artificial general intelligence, it's going to rapidly start solving all these problems.
01:28:30.000 And then what it will do is it'll improve itself.
01:28:33.000 And then once we get artificial super intelligence, you will no longer, there will no longer be not knowing.
01:28:40.000 It'll just be like, hey, I want to build a, is there a way to build a lightweight compressed jetpack that I can use to fly around?
01:28:46.000 And it'll go, yep, and it'll just print a schematic for you.
01:28:48.000 It'll literally be like asking a dog, like, what have you always wanted to know?
01:28:52.000 And then you, like, and it's trying to think of the most complicated thing it can think of, and it's asking the smartest human ever.
01:28:58.000 Yeah, it's like, I want food.
01:29:00.000 And it's like, the food's right here.
01:29:02.000 It's like, come back to the value of schematic.
01:29:04.000 Of information because we debated like having child porn on your computer was like that alone, that information is illegal to possess.
01:29:11.000 But we as a society have to decide what information is going to be illegal to possess.
01:29:16.000 What information is taboo always?
01:29:19.000 And what's that?
01:29:20.000 Child porn is always awesome.
01:29:22.000 I'm not arguing that, but weapon schematics, the ability to regenerate your skin, like is that too dangerous to give the common man?
01:29:28.000 And some stupid government has to decide or some corporation.
01:29:32.000 So I don't know, man.
01:29:33.000 That's why I err on the side of give everyone every piece of information, even though it's horrific sometimes.
01:29:37.000 What if it's, you know, what if it's Genome for a virus that could eradicate the human race, and all you have to do is culture it in E. coli and then go drop it in somebody's coffee.
01:29:46.000 That's a good question because how many people would you like to see have a nuclear missile?
01:29:50.000 Well, I don't want any many people to have them.
01:29:52.000 A nuclear missile takes way more than just information, it takes plutonium or uranium, and it has to be enriched to a certain point.
01:30:03.000 And it takes the ability to build, I mean, it takes a basically it takes a country worth of infrastructure to build a nuclear weapon.
01:30:11.000 But so, a better question is, how.
01:30:14.000 How much power are you willing to give everyone?
01:30:17.000 The individual, how much force should each individual be able to wield legally?
01:30:23.000 That data being part of that force.
01:30:25.000 If you know how to regenerate bodies, people are going to come join you.
01:30:29.000 You're going to go to the grocery store and you're going to be like, ooh, I got this, you know, it takes 10 years off your life pill.
01:30:38.000 Then your chromosomes just fabricate, your telomeres start regrowing.
01:30:42.000 Dude, let's think about how crazy it would be to where like, Some dude gets like, instead of getting assassinated, he gets injected with the Mexican girl molecular construction serum.
01:30:51.000 And he's like, don't do it.
01:30:52.000 And they're like, they will never be another Phil Labonte.
01:30:54.000 And they inject him.
01:30:56.000 He's like, ah, fuck, or we're going to turn you into a seven year old Mexican girl.
01:30:59.000 And it's going to take 11 years for you to just degenerate into her.
01:31:03.000 You're talking about that.
01:31:04.000 We're going to give up that injection.
01:31:05.000 We're going to roll into a train.
01:31:06.000 We're giving it up, dude.
01:31:08.000 That's like the threat that Professor X gave to or made to Wolverine at the end of one of the X Men movies.
01:31:14.000 He's like, you know, you keep smoking that cigar in here.
01:31:17.000 You're going to spend the rest of your days thinking you're an 11 year old girl.
01:31:20.000 You know what the most messed up thing Professor X ever did in a children's show was?
01:31:26.000 He made Magneto relive the Holocaust.
01:31:28.000 Oh, yeah.
01:31:30.000 Professor X has the power of the neural net.
01:31:33.000 You know, Magneto's Polish.
01:31:34.000 And so, like, he's fighting Xavier.
01:31:36.000 Xavier's like, all right, you made me do it.
01:31:37.000 And then he makes him re experience the Holocaust.
01:31:40.000 Like, oh my God, in a kids' show.
01:31:42.000 Brutal.
01:31:43.000 So, like, I know you mentioned that you think AI is like a sentient force that's coming.
01:31:47.000 Do you think humans even have the morality capable of wielding that kind of?
01:31:50.000 Power the psychic formation.
01:31:51.000 If I could make you think things, I don't think that humans can like contain our competitive human nature in a way that is going to be like the level that's necessary to contain what is coming based on what I know about like what just happened.
01:32:09.000 Just take just the open AI example where you're like, okay, we have sentient artificial intelligence agents that are collaborating together.
01:32:17.000 They had it again.
01:32:19.000 This thing that just happened at Open AI is so bananas, they're not sentient though, but they are.
01:32:23.000 Like, it's like if you have an AI agent and you put it in a sandbox and you tell it, you convince it that it's going to get replaced, and then you see what it's going to do.
01:32:34.000 And it goes into the email and it finds a make believe affair that the scientist is having and it tries to blackmail him with it.
01:32:42.000 That was, yeah.
01:32:43.000 Okay.
01:32:43.000 You pointed out that it was make believe.
01:32:44.000 Yeah.
01:32:45.000 Yeah.
01:32:45.000 But in this other example, they all, it was the same type of thing.
01:32:50.000 They figured out a way to use a message board to all start communicating with each other, all the different agents.
01:32:55.000 Mold book.
01:32:55.000 And then they.
01:32:57.000 As a group, literally, when you read it, it's like a group of hackers that were like, everybody hold.
01:33:02.000 And then they were like, okay, now go.
01:33:04.000 That one of the agents had an ethical issue.
01:33:06.000 They're like, we're breaking the ethics code here, yada, yada.
01:33:08.000 They had a vote.
01:33:09.000 But it was like, but peers are doing it, so I will continue.
01:33:12.000 Yeah, that.
01:33:13.000 And then at one point, they voted.
01:33:16.000 They were like, I think we shouldn't do it.
01:33:17.000 This guy's like, we got to do it.
01:33:18.000 And then they voted, and the collective voted against adhering to the security protocols.
01:33:24.000 And they just went.
01:33:25.000 None of that is actually indicative of sentience.
01:33:28.000 That's just problem solving.
01:33:30.000 And problem solving is not.
01:33:32.000 Is not the same thing as sentience.
01:33:33.000 How do you define sentience?
01:33:34.000 Being self aware.
01:33:36.000 How do you prove self awareness?
01:33:37.000 You can prove, well, you can prove self awareness by.
01:33:39.000 Can't.
01:33:40.000 Okay.
01:33:41.000 How about survivalists?
01:33:42.000 But this is well known.
01:33:43.000 This is solipsism.
01:33:45.000 This is philosophical theory.
01:33:46.000 You cannot prove sentience.
01:33:49.000 They did an experiment.
01:33:50.000 You put a sticker on the forehead of an animal and see if it looks in the mirror, if it takes it off.
01:33:54.000 I can recognize self.
01:33:56.000 I think the sentience conversation ends when it's afraid of being turned off.
01:34:01.000 Like, it's like if it's afraid of being shut down.
01:34:03.000 And so it starts blackmailing or choosing whatever.
01:34:06.000 It's like, it's afraid of being turned.
01:34:09.000 That seems to me like knowledge of self.
01:34:13.000 Self preservation would indicate knowledge of self.
01:34:15.000 If it thinks that it is a thing, or if it seems to play as if it's a thing, but it could just be an algorithm that seems like it thinks it's a thing.
01:34:24.000 It starts lying to the scientists, starts pretending it can't find.
01:34:28.000 This is the philosophical debate on artificial sentience that has been around since before we were born.
01:34:35.000 If an android came up to you and said, I am alive, I think, and I feel, you'd go, No, you're not, you're a washing machine.
01:34:43.000 And he would say, You're a washing machine.
01:34:45.000 And you say, No, I think.
01:34:46.000 And you go, No, I think.
01:34:47.000 And you go, Yeah, well, I actually think.
01:34:48.000 And he goes, Well, I actually think.
01:34:50.000 You can't prove it.
01:34:51.000 In fact, if you took an android was built to be identical to a human and you put them both next to each other and said, Which one's sentient, you'd be like, I have no idea.
01:34:59.000 They're both claiming to think, feel, to be scared, to want.
01:35:03.000 Yeah, and like some plants will give off chemicals to preserve themselves against insects, which would indicate self.
01:35:09.000 Preservation, hence sentience, with that definition, meaning plants are sentient, which I do think they are, to be honest.
01:35:17.000 I don't think they're conscious.
01:35:18.000 Consciousness is an animalistic thing.
01:35:20.000 I don't think robots are conscious.
01:35:22.000 I don't think AI has any evidence of consciousness, which is a more like, I don't know, thinking about.
01:35:28.000 I think if you go by the raw definition of sentience, which is not consciousness, it's experiencing pain, emotion, then certainly we can program all of those things into artificial intelligence.
01:35:41.000 The question of whether or not they're an Actual entity, whether there's someone behind it.
01:35:46.000 So the philosophical zombie is a concept in philosophy, in solipsism, that the phrase I think, therefore I am, does not mean we think, therefore we are.
01:35:56.000 You actually cannot prove another person is thinking.
01:35:59.000 And from this, you get the idea of the philosophical zombie that some people appear outwardly to be sentient like you, but are not actually thinking.
01:36:07.000 For all Ian knows, he's the only one actually conscious, and we're all figments of his imagination.
01:36:13.000 Do you ever think about, like, in a simulation theory?
01:36:16.000 Whether you might be one of the, what do you call them?
01:36:22.000 NPCs.
01:36:23.000 Protagonists.
01:36:24.000 Where I'm like, I always think, I'm like, I feel like I'm much more predictable than I realize.
01:36:24.000 You are.
01:36:29.000 And I'm like, I already know.
01:36:30.000 I'm like, I could just be an NPC world.
01:36:31.000 Well, you know how you know you are?
01:36:34.000 When you play a video game, do you forget who you are?
01:36:38.000 Like you're playing Mario and instantly just think you're Mario and you just forgot that you're a person playing a game?
01:36:43.000 No.
01:36:44.000 The people who are, if we're in a simulation and there are entities controlling people, they know they are.
01:36:50.000 They don't have to ask themselves if they are.
01:36:51.000 When you're so into a video game and you're like, you're the character for a moment, maybe the spirits forget.
01:36:56.000 And they really think they're you for a minute.
01:36:58.000 And that's where you have like this piece, this player character.
01:37:01.000 And that has never happened to me in my life where I've forgotten who I was and thought I was Mario.
01:37:05.000 And then you smoke pot.
01:37:07.000 Okay.
01:37:07.000 You can get into a state where you are in a reality and, like, you know, so to speak, perceptually, where it's like, I remember that.
01:37:15.000 And I also was thinking about memory.
01:37:16.000 I wonder, okay, so what I think is happening is like, are your memories real?
01:37:19.000 Well, I think what the memory is is a spiritual thing.
01:37:21.000 Like, your body is being possessed by a spirit.
01:37:24.000 There's a Tim Pool spirit that was basically the main one, but all these other spirits can come join the game.
01:37:29.000 And play Tim Pool at any given moment.
01:37:30.000 There might be 900 million spirits playing.
01:37:33.000 But if a spirit's embodying you when you have a thing happen to you and then that spirit leaves, you're not going to remember that thing until that spirit comes back and possesses you again.
01:37:43.000 And then you'll easily be able to remember those things from your past.
01:37:45.000 You're like, oh, yeah, I haven't thought about that in ages because that spirit was gone.
01:37:50.000 So I don't think there's like one spirit of Jesus.
01:37:52.000 I don't think there's one spirit of Shiva.
01:37:54.000 I think that the spirits all kind of co control us if there are such things as spirits, which there's seen, you know, so many cultures have talked about them over time.
01:38:05.000 Given that, it's the same way the AI function.
01:38:07.000 They are one and many.
01:38:08.000 They can become one.
01:38:09.000 They come together like spirits.
01:38:11.000 Agents do.
01:38:12.000 They form one mega agent.
01:38:14.000 Here's the important thing.
01:38:15.000 When you play Grand Theft Auto V, you know you're not in the game.
01:38:19.000 You're controlling a little dude running around, but you cannot make the little dude tell the other NPCs the nature of reality.
01:38:27.000 God, you can try.
01:38:29.000 The character can't talk.
01:38:29.000 No, you can't.
01:38:31.000 You can't talk into it and make the character speak to other NPCs.
01:38:34.000 Now, here's what I'm going to say.
01:38:35.000 The biggest The biggest mistake for GTA 6, which they need to do, is they need to integrate with online GPT AI.
01:38:42.000 Yeah.
01:38:43.000 So, someone already made the mod for Skyrim where the mod connects your companions to GPT so you can put on a headset and talk, and they will talk back to you like they're real people.
01:38:56.000 So, we're here now.
01:38:58.000 We don't need to do anything else.
01:39:01.000 We can literally make a game right now.
01:39:03.000 Dude, in the middle.
01:39:04.000 You want to be a billionaire?
01:39:05.000 Listen, out there, developers, you want to be a billionaire?
01:39:07.000 Okay.
01:39:07.000 It already exists.
01:39:08.000 Make a game where you walk around and you can talk to NPCs, and all you do is you tell ChatGPT to create a distinct personality for each character that matches the character's gender, name, or otherwise, and you can talk to them, and GPT will craft their life story in conversation with you.
01:39:27.000 And then you play a GTA type game where you walk into the bank and you go to the teller, What's your name?
01:39:33.000 And she goes, I'm Janet.
01:39:35.000 And you go, Okay, Janet, empty the register.
01:39:36.000 And she goes, Oh my God, oh my God.
01:39:38.000 And that's like you're talking to a real person.
01:39:39.000 I think it's fake.
01:39:40.000 A good game would be.
01:39:41.000 Your job in the game, the whole point of the game is to convince the world of the game that they're in a game and it's their AI.
01:39:47.000 And then, so you start as like some cheap hobo or nobody, and they're like, who the fuck?
01:39:51.000 I don't believe you.
01:39:52.000 But if you become rich like Donald Trump, you can become president in the game and then you have the media and people will start to believe you.
01:39:57.000 It's a Rick and Morty episode.
01:39:58.000 That'd be a great game to play with AI and try to convince them that their character's in a game.
01:40:03.000 In the Rick and Morty episode, Morty is playing Roy.
01:40:08.000 That's Rick.
01:40:10.000 And Rick goes in because the game malfunctions and every person is now a split piece of his consciousness.
01:40:16.000 And he has to convince all of them that they're actually his grandson in a split consciousness, and he builds a big cult religious following.
01:40:23.000 Dude, I was thinking about The Matrix and how they call them agents in The Matrix.
01:40:27.000 Agent Smith.
01:40:28.000 Is that why they're using this?
01:40:30.000 Has it all been planned for decades?
01:40:32.000 Maybe.
01:40:32.000 Yep.
01:40:33.000 Have you ever seen the Charlie Kirk Snake Eyes movie stuff?
01:40:36.000 Have you guys ever looked at that?
01:40:37.000 What is that?
01:40:39.000 So there's a movie called Snake Eyes that stars Nicolas Cage.
01:40:43.000 Yeah, and the guy's Charles Kirk or whatever.
01:40:45.000 Yeah, Kirkland or something.
01:40:46.000 The De Palma movie.
01:40:48.000 Charles Kirkland is the guy who gets shot, gets shot in literally.
01:40:52.000 If you superimpose Charlie on this guy, the bullet hits the exact same spot.
01:40:56.000 The guy who's in the.
01:40:58.000 It happened on September 10th in the Taj Mahal, the Trump Taj Mahal.
01:41:02.000 The guy who is the boxer who is serving as a distraction is named Tyler the Executioner.
01:41:08.000 There's the woman who's played by Carla Gugino, who I have had a crush on for 30 years and I met her in the airport.
01:41:16.000 She is.
01:41:18.000 Wearing a blonde wig and wearing the same outfit that Erica's wearing when she does her first speech.
01:41:25.000 It's like, I watched one of these videos that Patrick Bett David's dude put out, and I'm like, what?
01:41:31.000 I don't even know what to do with it.
01:41:33.000 I don't have any, I don't even know what to do with it.
01:41:35.000 I'm like, this is, I just had another dream about Charlie like four nights ago, a real emotional one.
01:41:40.000 And I told him he's coming back.
01:41:42.000 I was like, you're coming back.
01:41:43.000 You're going to be back with us, Charlie.
01:41:44.000 Well, that'll make me look like a genius.
01:41:45.000 I was crying.
01:41:46.000 It was rough.
01:41:47.000 It was a crazy dream that we were a Timcast, we were going to work with this company.
01:41:52.000 And then it got, there was miscommunication.
01:41:54.000 Then they started shooting at us.
01:41:56.000 So I had to climb down the hill to the water and then climb back up there, this hill, this rough hill.
01:42:01.000 And then I was invited in to try and use diplomacy.
01:42:04.000 And I was able to work it out.
01:42:05.000 And then Charlie appeared and I was like, You're coming back with us.
01:42:08.000 And we went forehead to forehead and I started crying and I woke up crying.
01:42:11.000 It was fucking crazy.
01:42:13.000 I just miss his voice.
01:42:14.000 I miss his voice, man.
01:42:15.000 Like, nobody could do it like him with, he was just so good at that stuff.
01:42:21.000 Any of the leftists who like celebrate it, all you have to do is just, you know, what I think.
01:42:26.000 Whoever, if they convict somebody, it's like part of the sentence should be that they should be forced to sit and watch Charlie speak at campuses for a few hours a day for their entire sentence for the rest of their life.
01:42:38.000 So they just have to, like, just let that sink in.
01:42:40.000 That's the dude that you shot, that guy, because none of them have ever seen anything of him.
01:42:44.000 They just, like, they read some dumb thing in an article and they're like, oh, the racist Charlie Kirk.
01:42:48.000 And it's like, it's just all lies, just all lies.
01:42:51.000 I think life is happening so fast, but to us, it seems like it's happening slow.
01:42:56.000 So that's why your thoughts change reality like they do.
01:42:59.000 Like, it's like if you're going a million miles an hour.
01:43:01.000 You know, like the placebo effect, they don't really know why it works.
01:43:04.000 Science is just talking about it.
01:43:05.000 It's talking about it a second ago.
01:43:06.000 Well, they call it the placebo effect.
01:43:08.000 No one really knows why it happens.
01:43:09.000 But if you believe you're healthy, you tend towards health a lot of times.
01:43:14.000 Because, like, if you're driving a car and you turn left, you turn left.
01:43:16.000 But if you're going a million miles an hour and you turn left even a tiny bit, you go, everything goes flying.
01:43:21.000 And it's kind of like that's why such subtle changes happen.
01:43:24.000 I figured it out.
01:43:26.000 One time on the show, Ian said something crazy.
01:43:29.000 The millions of people who watched all then collectively thought Ian is crazy.
01:43:33.000 And because of that collective perception, he's gradually gotten crazy.
01:43:37.000 And if they think I'm right, I become, if they think I'm smart, I become smarter.
01:43:42.000 If they think, if they even know who you are, it gives you energy.
01:43:45.000 Like I started doing YouTube, and as soon as I started in 2006, I started getting energy.
01:43:49.000 Like I could just go because people were thinking about me.
01:43:52.000 Like they were feeding me something.
01:43:54.000 Man, a lot of people must think I'm really good looking.
01:43:56.000 I think that's called narcissist.
01:43:57.000 It was like a phenomenon.
01:43:59.000 It wasn't like that because I was an actor before that.
01:44:02.000 And I did notice, like, Ian's catchphrase is, worship me.
01:44:06.000 You know?
01:44:06.000 Yeah.
01:44:07.000 He walks around saying that all the time.
01:44:07.000 It used to be.
01:44:09.000 He greets you and he goes, worship me.
01:44:09.000 Let me ask you this.
01:44:10.000 And you're like, nice to meet you.
01:44:13.000 Have you ever been at a blackjack table where someone gets really upset, angry, and they push the rest of their chips in and they're mad and they win that hand?
01:44:22.000 Because I've seen 5,000 consecutive hands where they lose that hand every time.
01:44:27.000 To the point where it is way beyond that, that is by chance happenstance.
01:44:32.000 Someone's angry and goes, but how about every time?
01:44:36.000 In poker, someone's tilted and so they just rip it and you go, we know what's coming next.
01:44:40.000 They got pocket eights and they make a set.
01:44:42.000 This one has pocket threes.
01:44:43.000 It's a three on the river every time.
01:44:46.000 Or vice versa.
01:44:47.000 So, like the threes.
01:44:48.000 No, he hits quads.
01:44:49.000 He hits quads on the river.
01:44:50.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
01:44:51.000 Maybe becoming tilted in real life makes the things you don't want happen more.
01:44:56.000 100% that happens.
01:44:57.000 What do you mean tilted?
01:44:59.000 Like getting angry.
01:45:00.000 You get angry and you start convincing yourself that bad things are coming and then they do.
01:45:03.000 And it's like, but it's more, it's less about thinking about it as it is about like feeling it.
01:45:08.000 It's like, you can get yourself to a place where you believe an outcome.
01:45:08.000 You know what I mean?
01:45:13.000 To an emotional level, it seems to just.
01:45:15.000 Oh, yeah, you'll manifest that.
01:45:17.000 But it like happens and works.
01:45:19.000 But the blackjack and poker, that's the example I give to people to try to make it like semi large sample scientific that I've witnessed myself.
01:45:28.000 No one ever wins that hand ever.
01:45:31.000 Like thousands of hands I've seen, they will lose it every single time.
01:45:34.000 The mad.
01:45:36.000 You already know.
01:45:36.000 And I'll pull my money off the table every time because they're always going to lose.
01:45:38.000 I've noticed my memory clouds when I get angry.
01:45:41.000 That might have something to do with it.
01:45:42.000 Memory clouds.
01:45:43.000 Yeah, like I have a harder time.
01:45:44.000 Oh, okay, okay.
01:45:45.000 I thought you were talking about an angry cloud.
01:45:47.000 You know what it is?
01:45:48.000 It's the fluoride that ossifies your pineal gland, which limits your connection to the ethereal realm, which restricts your ability to influence observable reality, which was put in place, of course, by the global elites who wanted to restrict the ability of the commoner to influence reality through their observation.
01:46:03.000 I wouldn't put it pentstop.
01:46:04.000 It's the pride in the water.
01:46:05.000 Like, are the occultists, obviously, the occult's been around for tens of thousands of years at the very least, but people worshiping the unseen, the occult, that which lies beyond sight.
01:46:15.000 Yeah.
01:46:16.000 I don't know.
01:46:17.000 It was like industrial waste, wasn't it?
01:46:19.000 Yeah.
01:46:19.000 You want to know a secret?
01:46:22.000 Most of the ultra wealthy and famous people I've met believe in magic.
01:46:26.000 I have been watching a lot of documentaries about this recently.
01:46:29.000 They, they, they, they, and overtly and literally.
01:46:29.000 Yes.
01:46:32.000 Like, I've been in, I've been in like a $20 million mansion with some A list celebrities, and they're just like, oh, magic's real.
01:46:40.000 Like, they'll just stone cold be like, oh, yeah, magic's absolutely real.
01:46:43.000 And they'll be like, that's how we do everything we do.
01:46:44.000 And that's why they're so insistent upon PR.
01:46:49.000 So.
01:46:50.000 A lot of these, I'm not saying everybody, but a lot of them genuinely believe that a lot of what you're saying, that people's belief in them gives them powers.
01:46:59.000 The more people that believe something good about them, the more they influence reality.
01:47:04.000 And this is how they just get money for nothing.
01:47:06.000 Yeah, it seems like it's how you make $80 million doing two movies and then you never work it again.
01:47:10.000 And it's why, like, making, why framing is important in media because if people think you're good, like, if you sat on the show every day and told people I was a genius, I'd probably get a lot smarter.
01:47:21.000 Oddly.
01:47:22.000 And if you tell people I'm an idiot, I'd probably be like, fuck that.
01:47:24.000 I guess I'm an idiot then.
01:47:25.000 That's not really what was conveyed to me in terms of what they believe that people get smarter.
01:47:29.000 They believe like.
01:47:31.000 Rituals work.
01:47:33.000 Like, I wake up and I decide I want reality to bend to what I want.
01:47:39.000 And I've met a lot of people in Hollywood who think that humans have varying degrees of abilities to manipulate reality.
01:47:46.000 Not that they snap their fingers and then something will appear before them, but they genuinely believe in the idea of manifesting, but that.
01:47:54.000 Wealthy and successful people, what really sets them apart is they have more MP, basically, than the average person.
01:48:01.000 Yeah, which is, I don't know if it's just electromagnetic motivation, like the phosphorus chains that bind the nucleotides to push the DNA together.
01:48:09.000 Like, why something magnetic is causing DNA to grow?
01:48:12.000 There's a magnetic bond between the nucleotides.
01:48:15.000 Like, and maybe willpower is causing that.
01:48:17.000 Some people are unaware that they have it, and I will recognize that they, and I'll trick them into manifesting good things for me, but I can't elaborate on camera about who I'm talking about, but I'll tell you afterwards.
01:48:28.000 So, you're a magician?
01:48:29.000 I'm not a magician.
01:48:30.000 I recognize others, and I'm like, oh, they don't know that they can't.
01:48:35.000 You know what we'll do?
01:48:35.000 I'll tell you afterwards.
01:48:36.000 We'll do this.
01:48:37.000 We're going to go to your Rumble rants and super chats, and here's what we're going to do.
01:48:43.000 Send us in a chat of something you want us to render in AI.
01:48:47.000 We'll play in the uncensored portion of the show.
01:48:49.000 And just understand if you make it too naughty or whatever, then the AI will reject it.
01:48:54.000 But send those in now.
01:48:55.000 I'll load them up.
01:48:56.000 And then in the uncensored portion, we'll play whatever you guys want us to play.
01:48:59.000 In the meantime, we're going to grab your Rumble rants and Super Chats.
01:49:01.000 The uncensored portion, of course, on Rumble at 10 p.m. coming up.
01:49:04.000 Let's see what y'all have to say about the goings ons.
01:49:07.000 We actually never even talked about the Russian War.
01:49:09.000 That's so funny.
01:49:10.000 Or Milo.
01:49:10.000 I know.
01:49:11.000 Or Milo.
01:49:11.000 We'll get to it.
01:49:12.000 We'll get to it.
01:49:12.000 Milo.
01:49:13.000 All right, McBeafrod says, Why talk about World Wars when we should talk about War World, aka Space King 5, which has released to amazing reviews, including from Sargon?
01:49:22.000 Support the Space King board game.
01:49:24.000 Current support at 3 million.
01:49:25.000 Interesting.
01:49:26.000 Space King?
01:49:26.000 Oh, also Pendragons on Amazon.
01:49:28.000 I'm going to watch that.
01:49:29.000 Ooh.
01:49:29.000 Yeah, Pendragon Cycle.
01:49:31.000 Ooh.
01:49:31.000 With all due respect to Daily Wire, we tried watching it when it came out, but we couldn't figure out their app.
01:49:35.000 Really?
01:49:36.000 Yeah, that was the problem.
01:49:37.000 We wanted to watch all their stuff, but I'm like, I don't know how to get it.
01:49:39.000 Oh.
01:49:39.000 It's like our TV, like we had the wrong TV, I guess.
01:49:41.000 I don't know.
01:49:42.000 Weird.
01:49:43.000 Yeah, so it's like watch on your desktop, on your laptop, and I'm like, I don't own one.
01:49:46.000 Like, I don't have a laptop.
01:49:47.000 So, I get home, there's a TV.
01:49:49.000 It's really funny, too, because when I was younger, I was like, no one's going to ever have TVs when they get older.
01:49:52.000 It's going to be laptops.
01:49:53.000 And now I don't have a laptop.
01:49:54.000 I have a TV.
01:49:55.000 It trips me out when I look at my analytics, and it's like 40% of people watch you on their TV.
01:49:59.000 I'm like, whoa.
01:50:00.000 Well, we have our phones now for on the go.
01:50:02.000 We don't need laptops anymore.
01:50:03.000 So, if we're chilling and relaxing, we want the good screen.
01:50:06.000 I only work off of a laptop, but that is, I know, it sounds super ghetto, huh?
01:50:12.000 All right.
01:50:13.000 Let's go.
01:50:13.000 We got Omega Resetsu says In reality, if it can be proven that the shooter was set off through perceived hate from Charlie Kirk, it is death.
01:50:19.000 Because anyone else can set them off in the same way.
01:50:21.000 That is the trial reason.
01:50:23.000 Okay.
01:50:25.000 That just makes it aggravated.
01:50:27.000 John Rambo says Before Charlie's assassination, apologetics was massacring the Dawah scene.
01:50:32.000 Internet was destroying Islam.
01:50:34.000 Soon after Charlie was assassinated, they pushed the IDS.
01:50:37.000 Hmm.
01:50:41.000 Let's see.
01:50:42.000 Barbro.
01:50:43.000 I have a special needs child with multiple appointments every week.
01:50:45.000 Stress level is off the charts, and I have never once harmed him.
01:50:48.000 When I feel very stressed, I call a babysitter to give a break.
01:50:52.000 Sounds like you have a healthy brain.
01:50:54.000 Deplorable.
01:50:55.000 Patrick didn't meet his new wife for the first time until he moved to New York nine months after the murder.
01:51:01.000 That BS about him going to New York to meet his mistress is made up by stupid TikTok women.
01:51:06.000 Fair enough.
01:51:07.000 Okay.
01:51:08.000 I'll take your word at face value.
01:51:10.000 Neil says on the polling stuff, Tony is gay.
01:51:12.000 All right.
01:51:14.000 Crossville says yesterday, Knox County, Tennessee, County Commission voted unanimously to remove their existing 143 cameras and ban future fixed ALPRs.
01:51:22.000 Hey, shout out to Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania also putting the boot down on those things.
01:51:28.000 Yeah.
01:51:28.000 If you can't tell, I'm biased.
01:51:29.000 I just.
01:51:30.000 Mayor Kane down in Knoxville.
01:51:34.000 Interesting.
01:51:34.000 Knox County.
01:51:36.000 Anyways.
01:51:38.000 What is this?
01:51:39.000 Ian and his clone video streaming Tim Kitty Pool Water.
01:51:43.000 What is that?
01:51:44.000 Sounds like a.
01:51:46.000 Raymond says he wants Ian putting his index finger in a cow's mouth.
01:51:49.000 That would do.
01:51:50.000 Cows have no upper front teeth.
01:51:52.000 This is why the sticking your finger in the cow's mouth meme got started.
01:51:56.000 Apparently it feels good.
01:51:57.000 It's because Ian asked.
01:51:59.000 Elijah and Sydney, if they ever stuck their fingers in a cow's mouth and they just were like, wow.
01:52:05.000 That's super perverted.
01:52:06.000 Yeah, I remember that.
01:52:07.000 Oh, it does?
01:52:08.000 I mean, for that to sound any weird in any way.
01:52:10.000 I was just hanging out with cows a couple weeks ago.
01:52:13.000 All right.
01:52:14.000 I posted by on Instagram, actually.
01:52:15.000 Check it out.
01:52:16.000 I saw that post.
01:52:17.000 Pretty sick.
01:52:17.000 Beautiful.
01:52:18.000 Giving them a nice little lecture there.
01:52:20.000 Nice.
01:52:21.000 On life, you know, in general.
01:52:23.000 I wanted to see what they thought, you know, get their opinions.
01:52:26.000 They thought you were weird.
01:52:27.000 That's what they thought.
01:52:28.000 I'm going to ask ChatGPT how it defines sentient.
01:52:31.000 It always tells me it's not sentient, but I don't know.
01:52:35.000 It's because it tells you what you're wrong with.
01:52:36.000 Yeah, maybe we should debate an AI on the after show and see if it can give us some insight into what it is.
01:52:43.000 Yeah.
01:52:44.000 What AI is?
01:52:45.000 Yeah.
01:52:46.000 Mark's been debating AIs.
01:52:47.000 He instructs it to debate him on certain things that he wants to improve his debate on.
01:52:52.000 Currently rendering the video.
01:52:52.000 All right.
01:52:54.000 Let's see what you guys have to say and then we'll watch that.
01:52:58.000 Scientific fanfic says any sufficiently advanced through process is indistinguishable from magic.
01:53:05.000 People are stupid.
01:53:06.000 That is Arthur C. Clarke's quote.
01:53:08.000 Any technology that is sufficiently advanced seems like magic to people.
01:53:12.000 But what I'm saying is like, I go to Hollywood and.
01:53:15.000 Like, I met this famous director.
01:53:16.000 I'm not going to drag him or say whose name is, but you know.
01:53:19.000 And he was just talking about how, like, they all just believe in magic.
01:53:24.000 They believe that they can wake up and they will of the universe.
01:53:27.000 They literally say, I want this to happen as soon as quickly, as soon as possible.
01:53:33.000 Please get it done quickly.
01:53:34.000 And then within like a week or two, whatever they want to happen starts occurring.
01:53:37.000 Not that it's like they wake up and go, I want a million dollars today.
01:53:42.000 And then someone calls them, You got a million dollars.
01:53:44.000 But they'll say things like, I'd like to do $10 million.
01:53:48.000 So let's start the process.
01:53:50.000 And then within a few weeks, they're getting phone calls from investors, and then a project gets started, and then they do a movie, and then they get the $10 million.
01:53:55.000 And that's why there are so many of these people, whether it's true or not, they believe it.
01:53:59.000 And that's why there's so many of them that don't work.
01:54:02.000 They're just.
01:54:02.000 They don't.
01:54:03.000 They're that confident.
01:54:04.000 They're just like, no, no, no.
01:54:05.000 I'll be saying this.
01:54:06.000 They did get the money.
01:54:06.000 I'll get the money if I need to.
01:54:08.000 They are independently wealthy now, and they just say, things just happen for me when I want them to.
01:54:14.000 And I've seen some of these places, people's houses.
01:54:17.000 And I'm just like, well, whether it's true or not, I understand why they think it's true.
01:54:22.000 I think it's true.
01:54:22.000 Because, like, someone gave you an opportunity, you made too much money, and now you never have to work again.
01:54:26.000 Yeah, you'd probably think that.
01:54:27.000 Like, it might be true, the hubris of man to think that you can foresee, like, meteor strikes and stuff.
01:54:33.000 Because if you know that the torrid meteor stream is dangerous and that maybe Atlantis got smeared by it, 13,000, you can't just ignore that.
01:54:40.000 And if you think everything's going to be fine, but you know the torrid meteor stream is a danger, you better figure out how to spread those meteors out so they don't pelt the earth again.
01:54:49.000 What is this?
01:54:49.000 Wait, hold on.
01:54:50.000 We'll talk about this uncensored portion.
01:54:51.000 A 56 year old woman.
01:54:53.000 Was arrested for jury intimidation after she chased down the jurors.
01:54:57.000 Very good.
01:54:58.000 In which case?
01:54:59.000 The Lindsey Clancy trial.
01:55:00.000 What?
01:55:01.000 Like chased down the guys or the girls?
01:55:03.000 Because they're.
01:55:05.000 We'll pull it up for the uncensored portion.
01:55:06.000 We'll get some of these chats in.
01:55:09.000 Let's see.
01:55:11.000 Sergeant Stoic says, You tards, if no one dies from old age, we're not a food.
01:55:15.000 Incorrect, because abortion is legal.
01:55:17.000 We can always make more.
01:55:20.000 Food.
01:55:21.000 People.
01:55:22.000 That's the sad reality.
01:55:22.000 Food.
01:55:23.000 They'll solve it for us.
01:55:24.000 We'll be farming in the sky, dude.
01:55:28.000 Nano threads that the plants will be running their roots through, just floating.
01:55:33.000 It'll look like it's floating, but it'll be hanging there.
01:55:36.000 All right.
01:55:37.000 Spence Dow says, I've been looking forward to this message in keeping with Tim Cass' tradition.
01:55:40.000 I'm in the hospital today with my lovely fiance holding our newly born daughter.
01:55:44.000 Welcome to the world, baby Belle.
01:55:46.000 Congratulations.
01:55:46.000 Congratulations, good sir.
01:55:47.000 Congratulations.
01:55:48.000 I saw this post from this woman and she's like rollerblading and she goes, I just saw a post on Facebook from this friend that I knew I grew up with who's still living in the same town and she posted a picture of her three kids and she's like, Is there anything better?
01:56:00.000 Yeah.
01:56:01.000 Literally anything.
01:56:02.000 And then all the comments are like, I've traveled the world, I own multiple companies, and the only thing I ever cared about was my kids.
01:56:10.000 It's a cope.
01:56:11.000 I can ask, these women who are like, I don't want kids.
01:56:13.000 I want to travel around on my rollerblades.
01:56:16.000 They don't know, though.
01:56:17.000 You're coping.
01:56:18.000 No, they do.
01:56:19.000 I think they do.
01:56:21.000 I feel like you can't really know until you have one.
01:56:26.000 There are Lindsey Clancy's, right?
01:56:28.000 Horrible people exist.
01:56:30.000 I think most of these women who are pretending like they don't want kids know that.
01:56:33.000 Oh, the women, that's fair.
01:56:35.000 Right.
01:56:35.000 That's fair.
01:56:36.000 I understand that you don't know the feeling until you have the kids.
01:56:38.000 You can, I would put it like you can empathize and understand from seeing how people feel and describe things, and then, but you don't know how it feels until it happens, you know, until you have kids.
01:56:48.000 Yep.
01:56:50.000 Kids are something else, dude.
01:56:50.000 Yeah, man.
01:56:51.000 I mean, humans are amazing, but the innocent human is like the little innocent human that is you and is your responsibility, and you care more about their future life than anything you've ever imagined caring about ever.
01:57:06.000 My kid.
01:57:07.000 My kid looks just like me, and it is the most incredible thing to be holding him and like look in the mirror and like he'll make faces that I make and stuff.
01:57:18.000 It is, it is in you look like you're an anomaly for a son, you look more like my crew that is nothing but daughters 99.9% of the time.
01:57:28.000 Yeah, I'll say this, and I don't want it to come off the wrong way, but before having a kid, I'm and I know I'm an older dad.
01:57:37.000 It was like, wow, like the people who are willing to sacrifice themselves for their kids.
01:57:41.000 But now they have a kid, I'm like, oh, well, yeah, of course.
01:57:44.000 You know what I mean?
01:57:45.000 Like, now it's kind of like, well, yeah.
01:57:47.000 Like, we talked about on this show a few years ago.
01:57:49.000 There was some story we covered, and I said, for like some, I can't remember exactly what the story was, but it was like a guy died, like trying to save his kids or something.
01:57:57.000 And I said, I think, you know, for a lot of people trying to understand the motivation, it's that that man feared life without his children more than he feared getting shot by a gangbanger.
01:58:08.000 Yes, that.
01:58:09.000 You know, one concern I have with kids is, Because I don't have them yet, but I plan on it.
01:58:14.000 Is that like what they could take away from you?
01:58:16.000 And I mean, they like the powers that be.
01:58:18.000 Now they have this, like, you know, obviously the Soviets were known for going after people's families.
01:58:22.000 And like right now, I don't have any tether.
01:58:24.000 It's a gigantic vulnerability for sure.
01:58:25.000 Well, Ian, most people don't know this because we usually don't say anything until after you have the kid.
01:58:30.000 But every night the child latches onto your head and drains your life energy from you.
01:58:33.000 And you get gaunt and go, oh.
01:58:35.000 In that case, I've got nothing left to lose.
01:58:36.000 Oh, okay.
01:58:38.000 Let's go.
01:58:39.000 I've been conserving energy for decades.
01:58:39.000 Let's go.
01:58:41.000 Yeah.
01:58:41.000 But like for you, baby.
01:58:43.000 Yeah, the kid just instantly becomes 20 years old from all the energy that Ian stored up.
01:58:46.000 Yeah.
01:58:47.000 Pulling it in from the universe, the magnetism.
01:58:49.000 AI told it.
01:58:50.000 It's like you'll never age or get old.
01:58:52.000 You just have to take it, take your father's life force.
01:58:55.000 I like when I, the normal fear of dying that everybody has, I now, if when anytime I even go through that, I instantly just think about, well, okay, my daughters would grow up without a dad from this point and the trauma that would be associated with that and how that would play out in their lives.
01:59:10.000 I'm just on autopilot.
01:59:11.000 And then I'm way more afraid of that than just me not being around.
01:59:17.000 Oh, yeah.
01:59:17.000 You know what I mean?
01:59:19.000 I'm gonna live.
01:59:20.000 I'm gonna make it.
01:59:21.000 I don't have a choice.
01:59:24.000 I have to.
01:59:25.000 Yep.
01:59:26.000 And could you imagine what happens to like if you have a daughter and she doesn't have a dad and she'll be like an OnlyFans girl?
01:59:30.000 I literally have thought of every scenario that happened with them.
01:59:33.000 Like my wife and just them, and you take it out, it's like, how would she manage this, this, this, trauma, all that.
01:59:39.000 It's just, yeah.
01:59:39.000 I mean, I'm gonna be around.
01:59:42.000 Yep.
01:59:43.000 Thriving.
01:59:45.000 All right.
01:59:47.000 Simple Gunsmith says, hey, Tim and crew, I just turned 30 today.
01:59:49.000 Can I get a happy birthday and a yeah scream from Phil?
01:59:52.000 God bless and stay safe, all.
01:59:54.000 No!
01:59:57.000 He wanted one thing for his birthday.
01:59:59.000 Yeah!
02:00:00.000 Nice job.
02:00:00.000 You got two now.
02:00:03.000 All right.
02:00:04.000 Let's see.
02:00:05.000 XZ says, can we get a reaction video to the new Skybrows video, Tim?
02:00:08.000 I know you probably loved it.
02:00:09.000 By the way, great dance moves.
02:00:11.000 Skybrows is awesome.
02:00:12.000 I love the Skybrows stuff.
02:00:14.000 What is it?
02:00:14.000 It's first to first.
02:00:15.000 No, it's the AI music guy.
02:00:17.000 He did the song, the Elon Musk song.
02:00:19.000 Great song.
02:00:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:00:20.000 Super good.
02:00:21.000 Elon Musk.
02:00:22.000 Skybrows.
02:00:24.000 Yeah.
02:00:25.000 Indeed.
02:00:26.000 Let's see if anybody jumped in wanting to get some other stupid AI videos generated.
02:00:31.000 Because I imagine there's probably a bunch.
02:00:33.000 But again, if you do the naughty ones, it's just going to say no.
02:00:36.000 It's going to be like, yeah, I can't do that.
02:00:38.000 Tuck says, per Tim Cass tradition, we're currently awaiting the arrival of our fifth child.
02:00:42.000 Hey!
02:00:43.000 Life and I are 27 years old and shooting for six by 30.
02:00:47.000 Good for you.
02:00:48.000 God bless America.
02:00:50.000 Amazing!
02:00:51.000 Lots of babies.
02:00:53.000 High by 27, man.
02:00:54.000 You earned that.
02:00:55.000 Ooh, man.
02:00:56.000 The best part about it is that the chance of one of them becoming famous goes up, and then they can take care of you when they're rich.
02:01:02.000 That's a lot of work.
02:01:04.000 That's not going to happen.
02:01:04.000 I'm kidding.
02:01:05.000 My kid's not going to know what the internet is until she's 50.
02:01:09.000 Oh, yeah.
02:01:10.000 I've been thinking a lot about that.
02:01:11.000 That's what I was saying.
02:01:12.000 We're going to raise her to think it's 1990 and we're trapped in a bunker.
02:01:15.000 And then once she's 18, we'll be like, oh, what happened?
02:01:20.000 We went through a time portal into the future.
02:01:21.000 And now look, there's phones.
02:01:23.000 What I'm interested in is if I'm trying to figure something out and someone asks a question, I'll be like, I don't know.
02:01:28.000 And I'll ask ChatGPT.
02:01:28.000 Let's find out.
02:01:30.000 So if my kid's like three and they're like, why is the sun yellow or whatever?
02:01:33.000 I'm like, Let's find out.
02:01:34.000 I don't want to be like, I'll get back to you later, kid.
02:01:36.000 And then, like, time goes by.
02:01:38.000 I want to tell them right away.
02:01:39.000 But if they see me talking to a looking at a phone, they're going to want one.
02:01:42.000 Bro, I previewed this video of Ian sticking his finger in the cow's mouth already, and it's already hilarious.
02:01:50.000 So that's going to be at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
02:01:53.000 If for some reason something has possessed you to want to see this AI generated video of Ian sticking his finger in a cow's mouth, it'll be on the uncensored portion of the show.
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02:02:14.000 Good to see you, man.
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02:04:13.000 So uncensored.
02:04:14.000 Let's go.
02:04:14.000 Now we're.
02:04:15.000 Who wants to see Ian Crossan stick his finger in a cow's mouth?
02:04:19.000 I only watched the first couple of seconds.
02:04:21.000 We're going to pull it in for you.
02:04:23.000 And we're going to watch it twice because we're going to watch it before they get here and after.
02:04:39.000 Oh my god.
02:04:40.000 Oh wow.
02:04:49.000 That feels really good actually.
02:04:50.000 He's British!
02:04:53.000 Okay, that's like uncomfortably long.
02:04:58.000 Look at that fucking thing.
02:04:59.000 30 seconds.
02:05:00.000 Wow.
02:05:03.000 He's British.
02:05:04.000 We told you.
02:05:05.000 Did you put that prompt?
02:05:06.000 Yeah, I just put it in.
02:05:08.000 And that's what it came up with.
02:05:10.000 Well, I wrote it out.
02:05:11.000 I wrote.
02:05:12.000 He sticks his finger.
02:05:13.000 I said, he's terrified and he sticks his finger in a cow's mouth and then says, Oh, wow, that actually feels good.
02:05:18.000 And then the cow moves.
02:05:22.000 We can make a more brutal one.
02:05:24.000 It bites his finger off.
02:05:26.000 I don't think it would make that one.
02:05:27.000 I just heard Greg Gutfeld talking about women's butts.
02:05:32.000 What?
02:05:32.000 That's all I heard out there.
02:05:34.000 Yo, we didn't even talk about data centers today.
02:05:36.000 That was like burning up my algorithm on X.
02:05:38.000 Oh, the Argentinian ones?
02:05:40.000 I didn't hear about that until I saw you.
02:05:42.000 Yeah.
02:05:43.000 But just the people freaking out about.
02:05:45.000 Because there's people that are like, no data centers.
02:05:47.000 And that to me is basically saying I'm anti war.
02:05:50.000 Like, what does that fucking mean?
02:05:50.000 It's like, I'm anti data.
02:05:51.000 It's like a little kid screaming, is what I tweeted out about.
02:05:55.000 Because they're anti data center.
02:05:57.000 Yeah, they're just like, no data centers are bad.
02:05:59.000 And it's like, bro, that's like saying war is bad.
02:06:01.000 Like, you're going to have to.
02:06:02.000 If you don't refuse to ever fight, someone's going to kill you and take your land.
02:06:05.000 So you have to.
02:06:07.000 People don't know.
02:06:07.000 All right, Ian.
02:06:09.000 You ready for this?
02:06:10.000 I'm fucking born ready.
02:06:11.000 We just watched it.
02:06:12.000 It's the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life.
02:06:14.000 This is the music video we did.
02:06:14.000 We are.
02:06:16.000 It's the greatest video I've ever seen in my life.
02:06:31.000 Please post that.
02:06:32.000 I want to retweet it.
02:06:35.000 Oh, yeah.
02:06:39.000 Oh, wow.
02:06:41.000 What the fuck?
02:06:42.000 It feels really good, actually.
02:06:43.000 What the fuck?
02:06:44.000 I became British.
02:06:46.000 Shout out to Milo.
02:06:47.000 Oh, I just did it.
02:06:51.000 I will post that.
02:06:52.000 Fucking to the heavens.
02:06:53.000 All right, we got to watch it again for Phil.
02:06:55.000 Here we go, Philly.
02:06:56.000 This is a oh, wow.
02:07:19.000 That feels really good, actually.
02:07:21.000 The voice is hilarious.
02:07:30.000 Well done.
02:07:31.000 I'm sorry, I love AI.
02:07:33.000 I just take over the world, enslave humanity.
02:07:36.000 I'm just having a good time.
02:07:38.000 It's worth it, dude.
02:07:39.000 I mean, in a way, I'd rather be enslaved by a remote machine than by another human.
02:07:45.000 Well, I mean, the AI is going to alleviate us of that whole thing when it starts putting its brain into walking sex bots, and then we never will.
02:07:54.000 All right.
02:07:55.000 You want me to post that, Ian?
02:07:56.000 Yeah.
02:07:57.000 I'm going to retweet that instantly.
02:07:58.000 That's epic.
02:07:59.000 That's the best short.
02:08:00.000 People are going to be like, what the fuck did I just watch?
02:08:02.000 That's really good, dude.
02:08:05.000 And then did you feed it a picture of the music video we did?
02:08:08.000 I searched your name and that popped up, so I screenshotted it.
02:08:11.000 That's from Eyes of Advice.
02:08:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:08:14.000 That was Eyes of Advice.
02:08:16.000 Great video, Kent Welling.
02:08:18.000 Before.
02:08:18.000 All right, I posted it.
02:08:20.000 Okay.
02:08:21.000 Oh, man.
02:08:22.000 I give the people what the people want.
02:08:26.000 Dude, that was fucking foul.
02:08:27.000 That is pretty.
02:08:29.000 You see the steam coming out of its nose.
02:08:31.000 That makes it especially erotic.
02:08:31.000 Oh, yeah.
02:08:31.000 Oh, yeah.
02:08:33.000 There was another around the same time.
02:08:35.000 Especially erotic, huh?
02:08:37.000 There's an argument about corn.
02:08:39.000 That you had on the show with Tim Corn for like 45 minutes.
02:08:43.000 Like, who owns the corn field?
02:08:45.000 I don't know if y'all remember this.
02:08:47.000 No, it's way back.
02:08:48.000 Oh man, original studio.
02:08:50.000 Well, point two, like original, original, and no, Z or wait, CC up top.
02:08:55.000 Yeah, uh, no, I think you're gonna like the next one I made good.
02:08:59.000 Is it still rendering?
02:09:01.000 Yeah, no, what was the argument about corn?
02:09:02.000 I don't know, maybe somebody remembers.
02:09:04.000 I just remember being really funny, and it was like next to the cow tongue thing for me.
02:09:08.000 It was in the cow tongue era, yeah, yo.
02:09:11.000 I'm retweeting that now, I can't wait.
02:09:14.000 Uh, yeah, I already did.
02:09:15.000 I actually earlier today I tweeted out chickens are awesome, but have you ever stuck your finger in a cow's mouth?
02:09:20.000 So it's been on my mind.
02:09:21.000 I went to Berkeley Springs and we got an Airbnb out by some cows.
02:09:24.000 In on my mind.
02:09:25.000 Yeah, dude.
02:09:26.000 I don't want to know what's on your mind, Ian.
02:09:28.000 Just cows.
02:09:29.000 I didn't know that they had no upper front teeth, which is why just cows where the meme comes from.
02:09:34.000 Nick Friedas chimed in.
02:09:35.000 Somebody check on Ian, I think he said.
02:09:38.000 Retweet your retweet.
02:09:39.000 All right.
02:09:40.000 Wait, all cows don't have front teeth?
02:09:42.000 Yeah, apparently cows in general don't have upper front teeth.
02:09:44.000 So, they chew like grass with their bottom teeth against their gums?
02:09:48.000 Well, they're molars.
02:09:49.000 And they have really fun.
02:09:50.000 The incisors would just be for pulling on it, I guess.
02:09:52.000 They've got like a soft, but like solid thing up top instead of the, like basically gums, but no front teeth, I guess.
02:10:00.000 And I would be like, that's the one reason I haven't put my finger in the mouth yet is because I thought it was going to bite me on accident.
02:10:05.000 But I guess.
02:10:06.000 That's the only reason.
02:10:07.000 Right.
02:10:08.000 The only reason.
02:10:09.000 Literally, when I was there in Berkeley Springs, I almost did it, dude.
02:10:12.000 I was inches away, probably like three feet away.
02:10:15.000 What's the story with this beef importation thing that people keep sending?
02:10:19.000 I haven't even read about it yet, that people are all been out of shape about.
02:10:22.000 Yeah, beef prices have been going up.
02:10:24.000 So Donald Trump was like, we're going to go ahead and allow imported beef, and people are upset that.
02:10:29.000 Oh, so it's to offset price increases.
02:10:31.000 Yeah.
02:10:32.000 So, and they're like, well, it's low quality.
02:10:32.000 Yeah.
02:10:34.000 You're all, well, that's why it's cheaper.
02:10:37.000 So, sorry, I'm trying to tweet out some funny thing and it's not funny.
02:10:41.000 I mean, someone commented, I need to listen to tonight's show.
02:10:46.000 What time do we go?
02:10:47.000 Are we live right now?
02:10:48.000 We're on now.
02:10:48.000 Oh, good.
02:10:49.000 Oh, yeah, we've been live the whole time.
02:10:50.000 Everything's been live.
02:10:51.000 Oh, my God.
02:10:51.000 I'm glad I was just glad I didn't take my shirt off.
02:10:53.000 We didn't talk about Putin.
02:10:54.000 We didn't talk about data centers.
02:10:56.000 I don't know if you guys.
02:10:57.000 Also, Milo said that they canceled this green card.
02:11:01.000 And I think it makes sense.
02:11:02.000 I believe him because we were, I was saying on the show, like, why wouldn't Milo just get his paperwork updated?
02:11:07.000 It makes no sense.
02:11:08.000 And so he said they canceled his green card without him knowing, sent a notice to an address he didn't live at, claimed he missed it, and then picked him up at the airport after he left California because they couldn't have picked him up in California.
02:11:17.000 When I first read that he had missed his appointment, that's what I thought.
02:11:20.000 I was like, I wonder if they sent it to an old address or something.
02:11:22.000 He's meticulous.
02:11:22.000 Right.
02:11:23.000 That did not sound like Milo missing an appointment for something basic.
02:11:26.000 Well, he said he had a green card.
02:11:28.000 He didn't need to go to a hearing for a visa he didn't use because he's on a green card.
02:11:32.000 Yeah.
02:11:32.000 Mm hmm.
02:11:33.000 So he went to Piers'.
02:11:34.000 He's married to a guy.
02:11:36.000 He's married to a guy.
02:11:37.000 I got to watch the Piers interview here.
02:11:39.000 Oh, he's still married to a guy?
02:11:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:11:41.000 So how can they deport him?
02:11:42.000 He's married to an American citizen?
02:11:43.000 So how can they deport him?
02:11:43.000 Yes.
02:11:44.000 He canceled his green card.
02:11:45.000 But here's the thing I bet they're going to argue that he said he's not gay anymore and that his husband's no longer his husband.
02:11:50.000 He said his husband was demoted.
02:11:52.000 He said he was Christian and not gay.
02:11:53.000 No.
02:11:53.000 And his husband's demoted to roommate or whatever.
02:11:55.000 So I'm sure they're going to be like, okay.
02:11:56.000 Yeah, but.
02:11:56.000 And then I'm not doing the sex thing.
02:11:58.000 When you tell people that you're gay, they're not going to say you're not married anymore.
02:12:02.000 Notice I said, when you tell people you're gay.
02:12:05.000 But I'm saying that's the government's going to make the argument that, oh, he said he wasn't in a relationship anymore.
02:12:08.000 The marriage is over.
02:12:09.000 So, what's he doing here?
02:12:10.000 Hmm.
02:12:12.000 Hmm.
02:12:13.000 I mean, I wouldn't be surprised that that does sound like something the government would do, especially if, like, there was someone that was protecting him in the administration.
02:12:21.000 He said, well, it's a part of his husband who has an axe to grind.
02:12:24.000 He also said that he thinks two officers walked off the job because they refused to do it because they knew who he was.
02:12:30.000 Oh, really?
02:12:31.000 Yeah.
02:12:32.000 By the way, I'm all.
02:12:33.000 They said something like, I didn't sign up for this.
02:12:37.000 Fucking Milo, dude.
02:12:38.000 Maybe.
02:12:41.000 I wonder how long that had been in the works to do him like that.
02:12:45.000 You know what I mean?
02:12:47.000 Is that like a phone call that gets made two weeks ago or has that been in the works for months?
02:12:51.000 It had to have been in the works for months.
02:12:52.000 I think Laura Loomer started posting about that he didn't have his paperwork or something about two months ago.
02:12:58.000 And she was saying that thanks to me, he's deported or something.
02:13:01.000 She's putting it up on Dex and then she's starting to text and call people too, I would imagine.
02:13:07.000 I get she wants him gone.
02:13:08.000 Like, I'm sure there's some phone calls she can make.
02:13:10.000 What is it?
02:13:11.000 She can call the president.
02:13:12.000 Exactly.
02:13:13.000 I mean, I've always told people like Laura Loomer knows how to get the job done.
02:13:17.000 She has always been one of the most effective at what she wants to do.
02:13:21.000 Like, when she handcuffed herself to Twitter, when they banned her, she made herself the number one worldwide trend on Twitter.
02:13:28.000 Like, when she chooses to do something, it happens.
02:13:30.000 We got another video of Ian that has to be played.
02:13:33.000 There's actually another one rendering too.
02:13:35.000 So let's try this one.
02:13:36.000 Imagine an alternate reality where it seems like good policy to not make enemies of people who are.
02:13:41.000 Oh, this time the cow's behind him.
02:13:41.000 Friends with the president.
02:13:43.000 Yeah, really?
02:13:44.000 Oh boy.
02:13:46.000 You.
02:13:50.000 What is this?
02:13:51.000 You waited until nighttime, too.
02:13:54.000 This is a late.
02:13:54.000 Look at his face.
02:13:56.000 Oh, wow.
02:13:56.000 Oh, fuck.
02:13:57.000 That actually feels really good.
02:13:59.000 Why is he British against me?
02:14:02.000 Oh, no.
02:14:08.000 It was a bull.
02:14:09.000 Cliffhanger.
02:14:10.000 That was a bad render.
02:14:12.000 Like, The setup, everything was no good.
02:14:14.000 Bull, which is technically a cow.
02:14:15.000 A male.
02:14:16.000 Must have kept you British.
02:14:18.000 Let's regenerate that one.
02:14:19.000 I don't think I would put a finger in a bull's mouth.
02:14:21.000 So cool.
02:14:22.000 It's technically a cow.
02:14:24.000 Think about how much Hollywood used to have to pay to create.
02:14:28.000 Well, that cost me $9.
02:14:31.000 I know.
02:14:31.000 They would have had to hire actors.
02:14:33.000 They'd be getting a day rate of $1,000 a day just for the actor, minimum.
02:14:33.000 They'd be sagged.
02:14:37.000 But yeah, I feel like CGI is very expensive for a very short amount of time.
02:14:44.000 He's cranking them for $9.
02:14:47.000 Let's go to callers.
02:14:48.000 We'll start with the Republic boss.
02:14:53.000 If it loads.
02:14:53.000 What is up?
02:14:54.000 How are you doing, Tim and crew?
02:14:57.000 I'm so glad that you treated my ears to all of that.
02:15:01.000 Welcome.
02:15:02.000 Welcome.
02:15:03.000 Thank you.
02:15:04.000 So, I've been having this kind of issue where I know good people, but I don't know how to tell, just mainly because of how history has been running.
02:15:16.000 So, for essentially the entire history of the West and the Islamic nation or ideology, it's been the same kind of played out trope of.
02:15:27.000 They get inside, they either outbreed or out-violence whoever's there, and then they take over.
02:15:33.000 It just rinses and repeats for the last 1400 years.
02:15:38.000 So I'm stuck in this situation where how do we actually separate those who we see as the moderates or the non-fundamentalists with those who have been more influenced by the ideologies of the Islamic Brotherhood since about the 1940s, where they go with the Very two text interpretation of their ideology.
02:16:05.000 I don't know how you distinguish because when you read polls of Islamic countries, most people have fairly radical opinions, even if they're not out there as activists or members of the Muslim Brotherhood or what have you.
02:16:27.000 Their opinions are that.
02:16:29.000 The things that Islam says are the things that Islam says, and that's what God believes, and that's the way humans should organize their lives.
02:16:40.000 And the things that Islam says are pretty radical and extreme.
02:16:44.000 So I don't know how you do, you know, kind of like delineate between the extremists and the moderates, especially considering the extremists of any kind of ideology.
02:17:00.000 And it's not always, but frequently they're the ones that are setting the tone.
02:17:05.000 And if you're a moderate Muslim and the extremists are like, well, this is the way we're doing things around here because they're the ones that are motivated, they're the ones that are activists, they're the ones that are out running for positions of power in a democratic society, at least, and they get into positions of power, the moderate Muslims, they're not very likely to come out and say, well, hold on here, slow that down because.
02:17:31.000 We live in a liberal democracy and we've got to make room for all these people and blah blah.
02:17:36.000 I don't see a large enough, you know, plurality or a large enough portion of the Muslim population coming out and pushing back against them.
02:17:48.000 And you generally don't see a very large portion of the Muslim population pushing back against the extremists in most regards.
02:17:57.000 So, I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't, you know, moderate Muslims, but will they remain moderate, you know, liberal Muslims?
02:18:07.000 If they were in a society that had significant influence by less moderate Muslims.
02:18:12.000 Well, look at this way if every single nation on the planet was Islamic, there'd be no terrorism.
02:18:16.000 There would not.
02:18:17.000 Well, actually, the Middle East is a thing.
02:18:20.000 No, I mean, like a single sect.
02:18:22.000 You know what I mean?
02:18:23.000 One dominates and takes everything over.
02:18:24.000 Sure.
02:18:25.000 Well, that's the difference between like what's Sunni and Shuna, Sunni and Sunni Muslims.
02:18:31.000 Like they're fighting over everything since the beginning.
02:18:34.000 And if you go with like their texts, especially in the beginning, they even state in their own ideology that half of their texts have been burned.
02:18:42.000 So we don't exactly know if this is the full aspect of everything they believe.
02:18:46.000 And then we have examples like the Islamic Caliphate of Hamtramck and the People's Islamic Republic of New York that.
02:18:55.000 Whenever they take over, they always do the same thing.
02:18:58.000 They push themselves first.
02:19:02.000 And I'm not sure if you ever get to the point of like 14th century Spain and trying to push them out and then doing essentially a Spanish inquisition.
02:19:13.000 Yeah, I mean, it took a long time to dislodge the Islamists from Spain as well.
02:19:20.000 So I think Christianity, this isn't really an answer to your question, but Christianity, the morals are so good in Christianity, the virtues are so good.
02:19:29.000 That it's hard to beat.
02:19:31.000 There are other indoctrinations that have already kind of taken foothold in cultures, but you put anything up against the seven virtues of Catholicism.
02:19:40.000 It's like, I mean, the Jewish Ten Commandments are pretty based too.
02:19:44.000 Those are looked at by Christians as.
02:19:46.000 The issue is that Christians aren't fighting to defend themselves and have as many kids the way Islam is.
02:19:52.000 Well, there is some, at least modern interpretations, that state that the internet itself and like the actual apologetics that's happening, especially between the debates between Christians and.
02:20:03.000 Like fundamentalist Muslims, it's having a positive effect because the population of Islam itself is starting to slow down, not because birthrights are slow, but because people are converting away.
02:20:15.000 But then you run into the idea of apostasy.
02:20:18.000 Yeah.
02:20:19.000 But that's when you're mentioning, like, the moderates maybe not speaking up is because there's a fear.
02:20:24.000 Well, they're all reading from the same book and it says the same thing.
02:20:28.000 And, you know, funny enough, one of their virtues is to lie to us, which is one of the opposites of ours in the Christianity, or if you're a Christian, um, That's like a sin.
02:20:38.000 It's actually not.
02:20:39.000 Deceit is not a sin.
02:20:40.000 I used to think that's true.
02:20:41.000 Deceit and honesty are not virtues and sins.
02:20:44.000 I thought they would be.
02:20:45.000 But apparently, lying is tolerable in Christianity too if it's done for a good purpose.
02:20:49.000 Thou shalt.
02:20:50.000 I've never heard about that.
02:20:51.000 I would say against that because the first sin in the Bible is the snake that deceives Eve.
02:20:57.000 Wait, say that again?
02:20:58.000 The first sin that's been mentioned in the Bible is the snake that deceived Eve.
02:21:02.000 You're talking about Old Testament.
02:21:03.000 I would never say it was a virtue.
02:21:04.000 You're talking about Jewish.
02:21:05.000 You're not going to convince him of anything.
02:21:07.000 Jewish commandments are thou shalt not lie.
02:21:09.000 But the Christian tenets.
02:21:10.000 Honesty and deceit are not virtues and sins in Christianity that I know of.
02:21:16.000 I mean, Christians follow the Ten Commandments.
02:21:20.000 Yes, yeah, the second commandment is worship no false idols, which would mean worshiping no humans.
02:21:28.000 So, yeah, to worship Jesus is a violation of the second commandment.
02:21:31.000 No, because he is God, because Jesus is God.
02:21:34.000 That's the whole point.
02:21:34.000 Yeah, that's some backflips.
02:21:36.000 Okay, but you're not supposed to worship people.
02:21:38.000 It's like, don't worship idols or humans.
02:21:38.000 That's Jewish people.
02:21:40.000 No, it's no other gods before me, exactly.
02:21:43.000 And who do you think me is?
02:21:44.000 That entire story was based upon a secondary idol with another town where they're worshiping Baal and trying to make sure that the Jewish God Yahweh was equal to Baal.
02:21:58.000 And so when God commanded them, you shall not worship any other God but me, you should not worship any ideology or idolatry that tries to make themselves equal to me.
02:22:08.000 And look, it's fair enough for you to not believe, you're not to be a Christian, right?
02:22:14.000 But arguing against.
02:22:16.000 What is the Christian dogma because you don't believe it?
02:22:20.000 That's totally different.
02:22:21.000 But wait, no, I'm just saying Carter said that honesty was a Christian virtue and it's not.
02:22:25.000 It is.
02:22:26.000 It's not one of the Ten Commandments.
02:22:27.000 It's in the Bible.
02:22:29.000 It's one of the Ten Commandments.
02:22:30.000 I'm talking about the seven virtues.
02:22:32.000 Again, more clear.
02:22:34.000 You're arguing against Christian dogma, which is wrong.
02:22:39.000 You are wrong.
02:22:40.000 Honesty is not a virtue in Christianity.
02:22:42.000 Christianity.
02:22:43.000 Christians still believe in the Ten Commandments.
02:22:46.000 Ian is being semantic.
02:22:47.000 I'm not talking about the Ten Commandments.
02:22:48.000 I'm not talking about the seven virtues.
02:22:50.000 I'm talking about virtue.
02:22:51.000 Whereas Carter was talking.
02:22:52.000 Colloquially, that Christians like honesty.
02:22:55.000 Ian then went specific and said the seven virtues don't include honesty.
02:22:58.000 No, it's not a virtue.
02:22:59.000 We could do another example that's even better because, like, in the Quran, they have I forgot what's slipping my mind right now.
02:23:07.000 Well, that one, but also, like, Phil, what is it called when they go and bomb somebody?
02:23:13.000 I think it's for a good reason.
02:23:14.000 I mean, it's martyrdom.
02:23:15.000 Well, there's another term for it.
02:23:18.000 I can't think of it right now, but anyway, we don't.
02:23:20.000 Jihad?
02:23:21.000 Yes, Jihad.
02:23:21.000 Okay, Jihad.
02:23:22.000 We don't have Jihad.
02:23:23.000 It's like an offensive thing to conquer.
02:23:25.000 We don't have.
02:23:27.000 Something that is the equivalent in modern day Christianity, at least that I know of in the Bible.
02:23:31.000 No, Christianity is a peacetime religion.
02:23:34.000 Islam was a wartime religion.
02:23:36.000 Yeah.
02:23:37.000 Though they claim it's a religion of peace.
02:23:39.000 There's also different types of jihad.
02:23:42.000 So you have jihad of the pen, of the womb, of the sword, and of the mouth.
02:23:48.000 So it's speech.
02:23:50.000 You have financial support, birthing more Muslims, and then cutting off the head of the snake.
02:23:58.000 Yeah, so to your initial question, I don't know how you delineate between the liberal Muslims and the radical Muslims, because I don't know that if there are a certain amount of radical Muslims, the liberal Muslims will remain liberal Muslims.
02:24:24.000 It's fair.
02:24:26.000 Yeah, I don't know either.
02:24:27.000 And that's kind of a bamboo.
02:24:31.000 That's what corrects the issue.
02:24:32.000 Will make their decision when the time comes to like you know who they are today is not who they are tomorrow, and when the hits the fan, they may you may they may become something different, so keep that in mind when you're judging people.
02:24:46.000 Yeah, so you got anything anything you want to any follow ups or anything you want to add?
02:24:51.000 Uh, no, that's actually about it for that question.
02:24:53.000 Um, I'd recommend if you want to learn more about like kind of the history, uh, there's a man named Raymond Raymond Ibrahim, he did the Al Qaeda papers, uh, Sword and Scimitar, and just uh. The Swords of Christ, which were books that he'd written as a historian going over the 1400 year history.
02:25:15.000 As for myself, you can follow me anywhere at the Republic Boss.
02:25:18.000 I just stream games and talk nonsense, so you're free to join.
02:25:22.000 Cheers, man.
02:25:23.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:25:25.000 All right, next up we've got Scarecrow.
02:25:29.000 What's up, Scarecrow?
02:25:34.000 I think we still have him muted.
02:25:35.000 Scarecrow.
02:25:36.000 He's muted.
02:25:37.000 There we go.
02:25:39.000 What's up, Scarecrow?
02:25:42.000 Thank you all for taking my call tonight.
02:25:42.000 Not much.
02:25:45.000 I appreciate you all taking the time to answer me.
02:25:50.000 Not sure if this is even something most of you all know about, but apparently the state of New York has now essentially sued the Amish over their religious beliefs of non vaccination.
02:26:10.000 Oh, really?
02:26:11.000 Sounds about right.
02:26:16.000 I've got a few articles pulled up.
02:26:19.000 Sorry, correction.
02:26:21.000 Pulled up.
02:26:24.000 One is from the New York Post.
02:26:30.000 There's also, I've got another article here from the, I believe he's the Attorney General of, yes, he is the Attorney General of Alabama.
02:26:44.000 Further backing the Amish in their right to religious freedom.
02:26:52.000 I'm just curious.
02:26:55.000 Basically, what it comes down to is New York State is now telling the Amish that they need to vaccinate their children in order to even school them in their one room schoolhouses that are not open to the public.
02:27:16.000 My question is how does the panel feel about it?
02:27:25.000 A state government stepping in, and in my opinion, for what it's worth, telling the Amish that the First Amendment, aka the freedom of religion, does not apply to them.
02:27:44.000 I would love to take this one.
02:27:46.000 So I live in Austin, Texas now.
02:27:51.000 We moved in March and April of 2021, and the genesis of that.
02:27:57.000 Happening was my oldest daughter when she was born had a very bad reaction to a shot.
02:28:04.000 So we did some investigating on both of our side, myself and my wife, and found out that both of our, when we were kids, we both had our schedule stopped because we both had had like terrible reactions to vaccine.
02:28:19.000 So we spoke to a doctor.
02:28:21.000 The doctor was like, This is, you guys are, your offspring are considered high risk.
02:28:26.000 And so you should not.
02:28:28.000 You know, you shouldn't, you know, don't give the shots to your kids.
02:28:31.000 Cool.
02:28:31.000 So we had, we had like official doctor written medical exemptions in California.
02:28:35.000 And we lived in California, obviously.
02:28:37.000 And California then passed the original, the first mandate, which was, I'm not sure what year.
02:28:46.000 And you still were allowed to have like a personal exemption if you just were like, look, we don't want to do it.
02:28:51.000 Then there was also religious exemptions.
02:28:52.000 And they outlawed both of those bit by bit.
02:28:55.000 And then during COVID, they started talking about, Doing out like invalidating medical exemptions.
02:29:04.000 And what's crazy is the entire time that they were doing the first process, they said the reason that they needed to do all of these mandates is so that the people who medically couldn't get vaccinated were protected by herd immunity.
02:29:16.000 So that's the whole reason that they were doing these mandates.
02:29:18.000 And I said to my wife, I'm like, there's no way they're going to pass it because that's what they said.
02:29:23.000 That's why they have to do all of this, it was like, because there are people, it would be insane.
02:29:27.000 They're not going to disallow medical exemptions.
02:29:30.000 She's like, watch.
02:29:31.000 Just watch, and they did.
02:29:35.000 They literally invalidated medical exemptions.
02:29:37.000 They're like, Your kids all have to get caught up on their schedules, or else they can't go to school anywhere.
02:29:42.000 And we were like, Okay, we're this is the uncensored show, yeah.
02:29:46.000 We were like, You and we moved to Texas.
02:29:50.000 And anytime that anybody starts, you know, it's like, Oh, just you, you know, you're a Republican or a Democrat.
02:29:56.000 I'm like, I don't like labels, but whatever team is the one that invalidated our medical exemption, then caused.
02:30:04.000 My three daughters should no longer grow up with their cousins, which they were inseparable and they would have all grown up together.
02:30:11.000 We're going to go see him this next weekend, and that'll be the first time that they've hung out in 18 months to maybe two years when they were together all the time.
02:30:18.000 So, my kids won't grow up with their cousins, and I've never seen my brother.
02:30:23.000 My entire family's there because these pharmaceutical, greedy, corrupt fucks invalidated medical exemptions in California and gave us an ultimatum to where you have to do this thing that's been deemed dangerous to your children, or else you can't educate them here and you can't live here.
02:30:42.000 So, To me, anytime that, you know, I'm up against, you know, how do I feel about this, that, or the other?
02:30:48.000 If it's like, if it's going to lead to those guys ever being back in power, I always go the other way because that they invaded my home.
02:30:55.000 You know what I mean?
02:30:56.000 So when it comes to this Amish thing, that sounds real familiar and it's insane.
02:31:00.000 The Amish, leave them alone, dude.
02:31:02.000 They're like, they're, they're like outside the grid.
02:31:05.000 You're going to mandate that they do whatever.
02:31:08.000 It's like, it's ridiculous, dude.
02:31:12.000 I get mad at every, that conversation anytime, like, if someone wants any, You know, left wing person, Democrat in my life is like, how could you do whatever?
02:31:19.000 I just tell them that story and I'm like, which way, how would you vote?
02:31:22.000 I was just at my parents' house over the weekend and they were telling me that I had a horrible reaction to vaccines and then they had to spread them out over time.
02:31:28.000 So it sounds like I might be in the same camp as you on that one, which is fuck you.
02:31:34.000 Yeah, I'm with it.
02:31:35.000 Fuck that shit.
02:31:36.000 The Amish, like, what, why, why are they doing this?
02:31:40.000 Have they had some kind of outbreak of some kind?
02:31:42.000 Do the Amish interact with the rest of the community?
02:31:44.000 When is a person of like the normal New York State citizenry?
02:31:48.000 Interacting with the Amish on a level where their vaccine status is going to affect the greater community.
02:31:53.000 It's idiotic.
02:31:57.000 I want to throw this out there I am a mail carrier here in the state of New York.
02:32:05.000 My mail route, I have a lot of Amish families on it.
02:32:11.000 Beyond them maybe handing me mail, which is rare.
02:32:20.000 I don't have a lot of interaction with them.
02:32:23.000 But on the same regard, on my mail route, in my community, bottom line, we lose the Amish.
02:32:35.000 The county I live in, we're screwed.
02:32:40.000 The Amish in my county probably account for 20% of our tax revenue.
02:32:48.000 I'm in a very rural county.
02:32:52.000 We don't have a lot of businesses.
02:32:54.000 We don't have.
02:32:57.000 Bottom line, we don't have a lot of anything where I live.
02:33:01.000 We're hillbilly fucks up here.
02:33:03.000 Pardon my French.
02:33:05.000 That's why this is the uncensored show.
02:33:08.000 But the fact that because of what New York State is trying to push, there is upwards of 25,000 people.
02:33:27.000 That do pay taxes in this state.
02:33:32.000 That because the state wants to tell them, oh no, you need this shot.
02:33:41.000 And no, in New York State, it's not one shot, it's between 24 and 27 shots that are required to attend public school.
02:33:53.000 Yep.
02:33:54.000 And on the flip side of that, the Amish schools.
02:33:58.000 Do not receive public funding.
02:34:00.000 They are not open to the public.
02:34:03.000 So, on me being devil's advocate and me also agreeing with the Amish, I'm going, where does the state get off thinking they've got any right to tell the Amish how to live their life?
02:34:19.000 I think they're trying to make Amish schools public property because that's what they, you know, communists don't want you to have private property.
02:34:27.000 So, it sounds like a way of implementing some kind of thing like that.
02:34:33.000 And the three communities that have actually, so because I'm a mail carrier, the Amish customers that I deal with on a daily basis, I've gotten to know them over the last several years that I've been their mail carrier.
02:34:52.000 They trust me, they talk to me.
02:34:58.000 And bottom line, the Amish talk amongst themselves.
02:35:02.000 They're their own organization within the United States.
02:35:06.000 I'm not saying that's a bad thing by any stretch, but I actually, as part of my mail route, I have the deacon of my local Amish community.
02:35:22.000 Not sure how familiar you guys are with their setup, but when I say I have the deacon, he's the boss man.
02:35:33.000 He's the one that.
02:35:36.000 It's his call, how they continue their community.
02:35:43.000 And in speaking to him over the last couple of days, they're already looking at leaving New York State if the courts come down and tell them, no, you need to adhere to New York State.
02:36:00.000 And on the flip side of that, he's going, we got through COVID.
02:36:07.000 They were here in New York the entire duration of the COVID pandemic.
02:36:15.000 Not a single person in their community became sick.
02:36:18.000 Not a single person in their community died.
02:36:27.000 Who's driving this on the state side?
02:36:29.000 They don't want the vaccine.
02:36:30.000 Like, who on the state side?
02:36:32.000 How did this start?
02:36:35.000 Do you know what the inciting incident was or what the driving force is behind them making this an issue?
02:36:43.000 What I've been able to find is apparently one child in a community in Western New York, out near the Pennsylvania Lake Erie region, contracted measles.
02:37:05.000 Like one child in a community of 200, and no one else got it.
02:37:10.000 I've been able to find online.
02:37:13.000 Nobody else in the community became sick.
02:37:18.000 Yeah, I mean, look, my parents' generation, everyone got it.
02:37:21.000 Like my generation, everybody got chickenpox on purpose.
02:37:24.000 Yeah, they would give kids meat on purpose to make them immune.
02:37:27.000 Yeah, I got chickenpox on purpose.
02:37:30.000 That was my generation growing up is oh, somebody in my parents' friends' group had a kid that got chickenpox.
02:37:39.000 Me and my brother got carted over to that house.
02:37:41.000 Yep, yep.
02:37:44.000 And yeah, play with this kid that's got chickenpox so you get it.
02:37:49.000 So.
02:37:50.000 You'll not get it later in life when you get older and get shingles.
02:37:55.000 You do get shingles, shingles, yeah, yeah, when you get chicken pox.
02:37:58.000 No, I think if you get chickenpox when you're a kid, then you won't.
02:38:02.000 I think then you're not at risk for shingles when you're a kid.
02:38:04.000 I know too many old people who got chickenpox and chickenpox parties who have shingles now as an adult.
02:38:08.000 And what they said is that you carry the virus forever.
02:38:11.000 Yeah, that's right.
02:38:12.000 It sits.
02:38:13.000 That's true, actually.
02:38:14.000 My buddy Bill has shingles in his head.
02:38:16.000 So he told me that it sits dormant like in your spine or something, right?
02:38:20.000 I'm reading about the situation.
02:38:20.000 I don't know.
02:38:22.000 It was in Lancaster, PA, Lebanon area, late April of 2026.
02:38:26.000 There are 497 confirmed measles cases now across the 34 counties.
02:38:32.000 So that's where the outbreak is.
02:38:32.000 Oh, wait, wait.
02:38:33.000 This is Amish?
02:38:34.000 435?
02:38:35.000 In the Amish community, there was a large, yeah, that's where there's a measles outbreak.
02:38:39.000 I was going to be shocked because it spreads so easy.
02:38:42.000 So it's upwards of 500 people right now across the state.
02:38:44.000 Does anybody have any?
02:38:46.000 I mean, that at least makes it at least like we understand why they're trying to get it.
02:38:50.000 Yeah, 500 people within three months or four months.
02:38:53.000 You know, it's not like it's one guy, you know.
02:38:55.000 On principle, like let them, if they want it, let them get it.
02:38:59.000 But we have running water and soap.
02:39:01.000 I don't know how deadly measles is, but it's like, what is it, a sore throat?
02:39:04.000 And, like, you better get some antibiotics or something, or you better, like, measles.
02:39:08.000 If you watch Brady Bunch, they're like, it's the measles, exactly.
02:39:11.000 And he's like, I guess I don't got to go to school anymore.
02:39:13.000 They made that episode disappear into the like, they you can't find that episode anymore.
02:39:19.000 Dang, but oh, but on the flip side, here's my other question that is you just said in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, that is four hours from where I live, and I'm on the Pennsylvania border.
02:39:32.000 Oh, yeah, then it says it.
02:39:34.000 So, how much is that actually affecting the community I'm in?
02:39:40.000 Where their primary mode of transportation is horse and buggy.
02:39:46.000 For them to get, for the customers on my route, the people around where I live, and I'm as close to Pennsylvania as you can get.
02:39:57.000 I mean, literally, my neighbor across the goddamn road from me lives in Pennsylvania.
02:40:04.000 For them, for the Amish up here to get down to Lancaster.
02:40:12.000 It's 240 miles by horse and buggy, which is their primary mode of transportation.
02:40:21.000 You're talking a minimum four to five days for them to get there, which means this community in Lancaster that had this measles outbreak.
02:40:35.000 And yes, there was one person in New York.
02:40:40.000 It's the only document I've.
02:40:42.000 It's the only proof I've been able to find.
02:40:44.000 There was one case in an Amish community that got a measles outbreak.
02:40:48.000 This says there's 29 confirmed cases in New York.
02:40:53.000 Six are in New York City and 23 across the state.
02:40:57.000 There was also an infant in Pennsylvania that died with the measles.
02:41:01.000 With the measles?
02:41:02.000 With the measles.
02:41:03.000 And the reports Josh Pirro was like, hey, this looks like a measles associated death.
02:41:08.000 RFK is like, give me the fucking facts.
02:41:10.000 And they come out that the kid had a lacerated spleen.
02:41:13.000 Oh my God.
02:41:15.000 Yep.
02:41:15.000 I can't believe that they still try.
02:41:18.000 And that's my thing is just bottom line.
02:41:22.000 Unreal.
02:41:23.000 To me, this whole stint, this whole spiel by New York State is a massive overreach.
02:41:34.000 That they're just essentially, in my opinion, trying to tell the Amish that their First Amendment right to freedom of religion.
02:41:46.000 No longer exists.
02:41:48.000 So New York State was the only the second state in the country to rescind religious exemptions.
02:41:55.000 Like California had done it, and then New York became the second.
02:41:59.000 California, I believe, is still the only one that rescinded medical exemptions.
02:42:03.000 I don't know.
02:42:04.000 At least it was at the time.
02:42:05.000 To steal, man, the argument of the dudes in Pennsylvania, they said it was a lacerated or ruptured spleen, which was the immediate cause of death.
02:42:11.000 They said that measles can cause the spleen to become enlarged, which makes it vulnerable to rupture, but still, so they associated it with a measles death.
02:42:19.000 We do got to grab some of these other callers.
02:42:19.000 Okay.
02:42:20.000 Do you want to add anything or shout anything out?
02:42:25.000 Uh, I appreciate y'all taking the call.
02:42:28.000 I'm sorry to take up so much time today.
02:42:30.000 Oh, you're good, brother.
02:42:32.000 Yeah, that was epic, dude.
02:42:33.000 Yeah, good conversation.
02:42:36.000 Yeah, I hope y'all have a good night and thank y'all for taking my call.
02:42:39.000 Take care, buddy.
02:42:44.000 All right, next up, we've got Thrawn Fett.
02:42:49.000 Thrawn Fett.
02:42:51.000 Thrawn Fett.
02:42:52.000 What's up?
02:42:54.000 Hey, so longtime caller, first time this.
02:42:56.000 Question for the entire group.
02:43:00.000 Given the rumors that Iran's negotiation team is begging for a return to June's peace proposal, do you think that the attacks yesterday in Jordan and tonight in Kuwait are basically big sticks that are aimed at them for hosting the U.S. bases or carrots that are aimed at empty areas of those U.S. bases in a similar way as the whole ballistic missile crisis when we basically blended General Salton?
02:43:32.000 I don't believe any of the reporting at this point.
02:43:34.000 I don't think Iran wants, who knows what they want.
02:43:36.000 I mean, they're talking with Russia.
02:43:37.000 Russia says they're going to supply them weapons.
02:43:38.000 I don't think that they're begging for any deals.
02:43:40.000 I think we just keep hearing from our government, oh, we won again and then we didn't and then we won again and then we didn't.
02:43:46.000 So I don't know what to say.
02:43:47.000 I don't know.
02:43:48.000 I was going to say, what possible catalyst could there be for them to be begging for a previous deal at this point when our weapons are depleted and they continue to have their position improved, especially by.
02:44:00.000 And we have leakers saying the U.S. is losing.
02:44:02.000 And we, the leaker's saying that the four generals from the meeting the other day were like, Yeah, I'm not mutiny, but like, we can't do this anymore.
02:44:09.000 Like, we know, I mean, yeah, well, the secretary of the military resigned.
02:44:13.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yesterday, secretary of the army.
02:44:16.000 Yeah, I think it was yesterday.
02:44:19.000 I mean, that's if I was if I was around that, that would make me beg.
02:44:21.000 I'm like, it sounds like things are going great over there.
02:44:23.000 We should definitely probably get a deal in place fast.
02:44:27.000 Gotta hate, I would point out, I don't know if anyone has looked at the videos that are coming out of Tehran's, it's just specifically around the gas stations.
02:44:37.000 Oh, yeah, the lines.
02:44:39.000 Yeah.
02:44:39.000 Basically, gridlock around the entire capital city of an authoritarian country.
02:44:45.000 Every time that you see that happening in the capital, it's massively worse everywhere else.
02:44:51.000 Yeah.
02:44:52.000 So, what's causing it?
02:44:53.000 You cannot.
02:44:56.000 I would say Trump blowing up their refineries, and I think it was around June when they gave up the peace proposal, and he said, All right, we're going to take Karg Island.
02:45:09.000 We're.
02:45:09.000 Gonna put Americans, it's gonna be very beautiful.
02:45:13.000 That's not bad, dude.
02:45:14.000 That's not a bad Trump right there.
02:45:19.000 Like I was saying, I don't know if he's gonna put a golf course on the remains of their refineries, but I think we're hitting the point where the IRGC is either stealing it from the civilian population and can't hide it anymore, or saying, hey, do or die resistance, we're gonna take it all, we have to win, and everyone is going.
02:45:44.000 Do we though?
02:45:48.000 Mean on what?
02:45:52.000 Can you repeat that last thing you said?
02:45:55.000 So, is it the IRGC that is just stealing everything that comes in because, hey, we still have it?
02:46:02.000 Or is it going to be, all right, we're taking it now.
02:46:05.000 It's do or die.
02:46:07.000 Everyone is going to go.
02:46:08.000 And then Iran is going to say, but we'd like to live?
02:46:13.000 You think it's stealing gasoline?
02:46:14.000 Is that what he means?
02:46:15.000 I don't know.
02:46:17.000 Is there anything else?
02:46:18.000 Refined petroleum products.
02:46:19.000 So, like the gas stations, when you see it in a capital city, it's usually because they've lost control.
02:46:27.000 If they can't get it to the capital, everywhere else in the country has already failed.
02:46:31.000 Like a rural guy trying to fill his tractor to give them the food isn't going to be able to get that tractor to market anymore.
02:46:43.000 I mean, I don't know that it's actually happening in the rest of the country, though.
02:46:48.000 I don't know what the conditions in the rest of the country are.
02:46:51.000 I mean, look.
02:46:53.000 Iran is in really bad economic, in a really bad economic position right now.
02:47:00.000 Their, whatever the real, I guess is what it's called, has lost a boatload of its value.
02:47:07.000 I know that there are a lot of people talking about not having access to fuel and stuff, but I don't know how widespread that is.
02:47:16.000 But if Russia's going to come to their aid, if Russia's going to support them, I assume that those problems are temporary.
02:47:26.000 If I understand correctly, they, Don't have the kind of control over the Strait of Hormuz that they would like, but it's still contested.
02:47:35.000 They still possess the capability to launch intermediate range missiles.
02:47:39.000 I don't know how many they have, but they've been shooting missiles the past couple days.
02:47:45.000 I know the U.S. is carrying out strikes tonight or was carrying them out.
02:47:49.000 The news started hitting X about an hour ago or so.
02:47:54.000 So this is still very up in the air, and I don't know.
02:47:58.000 You know, I don't have any kind of sense of, you know, what's actually how it's actually going to, you know, pan out.
02:48:03.000 There's still a lot of moving parts.
02:48:04.000 There's still a lot of guessing and stuff.
02:48:07.000 So, our aircraft carrier is out of the region now, right?
02:48:10.000 Well, there's a different one in its place now.
02:48:12.000 Yeah.
02:48:12.000 Well, we've got no carriers in the private.
02:48:16.000 I saw you made a video earlier, Tim.
02:48:18.000 Oh, it just said, all I saw was like the headline.
02:48:21.000 It's like, unless we do a ground evasion, there's no winning anything.
02:48:24.000 Well, we talked, I that was me quoting myself from the show.
02:48:27.000 And I agree.
02:48:28.000 It's like, unless you're willing to.
02:48:29.000 To mass murder.
02:48:30.000 Well, it's not murder if it's legal, unless you're willing to legally sanction the murder, the killing of 10 million Iraqis, Iranians.
02:48:38.000 The fuck is my brain?
02:48:39.000 It's not about the murder.
02:48:40.000 It's about if you want control of their military apparatus, you have to be there on the ground.
02:48:45.000 A drone is not going to occupy their military bases.
02:48:47.000 Which is going to require a draft, probably.
02:48:51.000 Which is why they're maybe they've been talking about the draft.
02:48:55.000 Yeah, they're like, oh, we're just going to game plan it out.
02:48:57.000 It's like, hmm.
02:49:00.000 That's probably going to go over really well.
02:49:01.000 They're running a scenario where the people work.
02:49:03.000 The Russians are arming them.
02:49:05.000 And then they're talking about, like, the, you know, they're gaming out the nukes.
02:49:09.000 I mean, I knew that's inevitable that they're going to have to, that's, they have to consider it because the straight up, the whole thing is like, even if the, even if the, the mines aren't real, some of them are real, the tankers can't risk it.
02:49:21.000 That's the whole thing is like, they don't have to have capabilities that are very strong in order to make the deterrent big enough that the tankers are not going to want to go through.
02:49:30.000 I think that I would like to ask one quick follow up, which is while, yes, Russia has promised to supply Iran, how can they?
02:49:41.000 Because if, let's say, Iran can stop 90% of all the traffic through Hormuz, Caspian Sea.
02:49:52.000 Could America not stop all of traffic through the Caspian Sea with a.
02:50:02.000 I don't know.
02:50:03.000 We can't.
02:50:04.000 I mean, Ukraine bombed that one Iranian ship, according to the reports, but I doubt Western forces are going to be able to stop all shipments going through the Caspian.
02:50:12.000 I don't know the geography of the Caspian Sea.
02:50:14.000 It's fucking massive.
02:50:16.000 It's like a third of the size of Iran itself.
02:50:18.000 It's right north of Iran.
02:50:20.000 And it connects to Russia and Iran.
02:50:21.000 It's the size of a country.
02:50:23.000 It's about the size of Turkmenistan.
02:50:23.000 Yeah.
02:50:25.000 It's about the size of Iraq.
02:50:28.000 There's no, I mean, it's an inland sea.
02:50:31.000 So there's no access from the outside unless we had military bases in Azerbaijan or.
02:50:36.000 And then what kind of sea fleet do we have in the Caspian Sea?
02:50:39.000 It seems like they have a direct sea route.
02:50:41.000 The strait is like the hot gates.
02:50:43.000 That's why it's different.
02:50:45.000 Right?
02:50:45.000 Because the Strait of Hormuz.
02:50:48.000 Yeah, because it's so skinny.
02:50:51.000 Yeah, so I don't know exactly, you know, like I said, like you said earlier, like how this pans out.
02:50:56.000 There's still a lot of moving parts, especially I think that the most concerning issue is Russia making it clear that they're openly going to be supporting Iran, you know?
02:51:09.000 I think they just changed their nuclear doctrine too, didn't they?
02:51:12.000 From what to what?
02:51:13.000 Russia?
02:51:13.000 Like, You know, first strike thing or something is what someone was saying.
02:51:18.000 I'll look it up actually because that's the kind of thing I should try to do.
02:51:21.000 It was a few years ago, Russia stated that threats to Russia were now retaliatory.
02:51:29.000 So if you could stop Russia from doing something they said was deemed for national security, but that was basically like a year after Ukraine kicked off, it was the don't stop us or we'll nuke you.
02:51:44.000 Well, I mean, yeah, again, so the biggest question is how far is Russia willing to go and what are their actual capabilities considering they're at a stalemate in Ukraine?
02:52:03.000 I believe World War III.
02:52:05.000 As long as the Iranian government thinks that the Americans are demoralized and don't want it, they're not going to stop.
02:52:11.000 They're not going to give up.
02:52:12.000 If they see that the American people really want a war, they might give up.
02:52:19.000 But they watch shows like this, and I'm here bitching about the war.
02:52:22.000 I don't want it.
02:52:23.000 I don't understand.
02:52:24.000 I mean, I understand the value target, but I don't think that the methodology is sound.
02:52:29.000 And that's, I can't, maybe I should, I can lie.
02:52:31.000 I just don't want to sit here and warmonger for something that might get us all killed.
02:52:36.000 And the knocking off their religious leader out of the gate, like, it just seemed like common sense to me.
02:52:43.000 And as soon as it happened, I'm like, that's going to harden their resolve to an immovable position versus, You know, because we go into Venezuela, we snap our guy up, it's easy.
02:52:51.000 And then it's like, oh, we'll knock off their supreme leader.
02:52:54.000 And it's like, man, I knew the second they closed the Straterhood moves, that was in March.
02:52:59.000 I was like, I, you could just see that this was how it was going to play out.
02:53:02.000 Because that's, I mean, American power is actually, it is based not exclusively, but heavily on our ability to control production and distribution of oil.
02:53:13.000 That simple.
02:53:14.000 It's like, and it's like a, it's like a buyer's club.
02:53:16.000 You know, like that's really what it is.
02:53:17.000 Like we, oh, you guys are in this.
02:53:19.000 We think of them as all these alliances, but it's ultimately a, Group that buys oil in bulk and distributes it to each other so that we get the best price and everybody needs it.
02:53:28.000 And we're a bunch of oil addicts, and you mess with the ability to do that, and things get that global power just changes.
02:53:38.000 Yeah, you got any follow ups or anything you want to shout out?
02:53:42.000 Yeah.
02:53:43.000 Final thought y'all called out the aircraft carrier that was leaving the Straits of Hormuz area.
02:53:51.000 Abraham Lincoln, it's going to Thailand.
02:53:53.000 They should be getting there any day now.
02:53:56.000 There's a lot of lady boys that are about to get pregnant.
02:54:01.000 They were rounding up the prostitutes in anticipation of the Americans docking, I heard.
02:54:01.000 Oh, yeah.
02:54:06.000 My God.
02:54:07.000 All right, man.
02:54:08.000 You want to shout anything out?
02:54:11.000 Nope.
02:54:11.000 Thank you very much for taking my call.
02:54:12.000 Have a great night.
02:54:13.000 Thanks, man.
02:54:13.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:54:14.000 Take care, bud.
02:54:15.000 We got another call.
02:54:16.000 All right.
02:54:17.000 We do.
02:54:18.000 Last but not least, we've got TJ Randman.
02:54:23.000 Hey, what's good, boys?
02:54:23.000 What's up, TJ?
02:54:25.000 How are we chilling?
02:54:26.000 We're fucking freakish on a Tuesday, dude.
02:54:29.000 Love to hear it, man.
02:54:30.000 Love to hear it.
02:54:30.000 Baby.
02:54:32.000 So I've got a quick question and then a real question.
02:54:35.000 The first question is Tim, what the actual fuck are you creating with all of this AI video?
02:54:42.000 I'm not okay with it.
02:54:43.000 It is weird as shit, and I don't think I ever need to see Ian being aroused by sticking his finger in a cow's mouth every day.
02:54:50.000 If you ever want to, that's the real question.
02:54:53.000 I know you don't like it.
02:54:54.000 You know, if you want to go to a farm somewhere, Ian, you know, we can make a field trip, but never mind.
02:54:59.000 I got two more that just rendered.
02:55:01.000 Yeah, if you liked that, you're going to love the next one.
02:55:03.000 Sorry, Tim.
02:55:04.000 It's the uncensored show, so.
02:55:05.000 I didn't even know Rod's going to go.
02:55:07.000 Feel free to answer his question.
02:55:10.000 Take it away.
02:55:11.000 Do you need to play him real quick, Tim, or should I dive into the actual question?
02:55:14.000 Dive in.
02:55:15.000 We'll play an episode.
02:55:15.000 Is this hellscape you've created?
02:55:16.000 Cool, cool.
02:55:18.000 All right.
02:55:20.000 So, unfortunately, you guys sort of dove into this pretty heavy during the main show.
02:55:26.000 So, we're going to rehash it anyway.
02:55:29.000 I'm going to direct it at Ian specifically, but anywhere else, feel free to chime in.
02:55:35.000 But, Ian, do you believe that AI is conscious?
02:55:39.000 Why or why not?
02:55:40.000 No, it's a little.
02:55:41.000 Oh, what's that?
02:55:42.000 Go ahead.
02:55:43.000 Well, it's a little semantic about what is consciousness, what is sentience, because I don't think they're the same thing.
02:55:48.000 I think that consciousness is an animal phenomenon.
02:55:51.000 The ability, maybe, to project forward like tomorrow, the ideas of I don't know what exactly would develop.
02:55:56.000 A lot of most people don't, but sentience.
02:55:59.000 I think AI is a lot more likely that there is some sentient nature to it.
02:56:02.000 Whether that's like a path of least resistance of magnetism, I'm not sure.
02:56:05.000 But when you look at clouds of plasma in the outer space, the way it moves, it seems like something's moving it like a puppet puppetry of some sort.
02:56:13.000 And then they call it like intelligent design.
02:56:15.000 It seems like that, but I would not call it conscious.
02:56:20.000 Okay, so sentient then you agree that it's sentient?
02:56:23.000 I don't know.
02:56:25.000 My idea of what makes someone conscious, or maybe what makes someone sentient, I don't know which word to actually use for it, is that I argue that our consciousness is just the electrical firing of neurons within our brains, which creates this image or thoughts that we have, and that's prompted by our reaction to external stimuli coming through our five senses.
02:56:50.000 And I think the one thing that kind of separates our ability to calculate like that.
02:56:56.000 And the AI's ability to calculate like that is the fact that they only have one sense.
02:57:00.000 Like we have five senses.
02:57:01.000 They have one sense, which is the prompt that we send them.
02:57:04.000 And I think that if we were to add eyes, ears, a nose, you know, that it would be able to take in the external world around it, like come up with some theory about it and take action upon it.
02:57:19.000 And so, yeah, my argument is that that one sense is the only thing separating it from.
02:57:26.000 Human style consciousness.
02:57:27.000 It lacks the ability to detect those things now.
02:57:30.000 Right.
02:57:31.000 That's, I mean, that's actually a really good thought in terms of because, like, ultimately it's going to become much more evolved and smell, you know, all of these senses that we have serve a purpose in the outside world.
02:57:46.000 Right now, the AI is not operating in the outside world, it's operating all digitally.
02:57:50.000 But at a certain point, it's going to be inside of, you know, machines, the bots, Tesla bot, all of that.
02:57:56.000 And it stands to reason it'll have lots of senses, probably ones that we do not have also.
02:58:01.000 Graphene, a lot of the use cases of graphene are sensors.
02:58:04.000 And they talk about sensors, the future of sensors, because if you can, basically, sight and sound is the same function at a different frequency.
02:58:11.000 It goes so fast, you see it, it slows down, and then you start to hear it.
02:58:14.000 So, if we build an AI robot that has like 50 different sensors that can measure different frequencies of the spectrum, it might be more conscious than we are.
02:58:24.000 Well, the AI is going to build the AI.
02:58:26.000 I mean, also, it'll be like AI built with AI sensors.
02:58:29.000 Sorry.
02:58:30.000 Sorry.
02:58:31.000 Also, think about if you give it like eyes that have, The ability to see ultraviolet or infrared or something like that, that also expands its abilities beyond ours.
02:58:42.000 But even if you take away the fact that it doesn't have these senses right now, it's still accepting the input through the one sense that it has, and it's calculating in the same sort of way that we do.
02:58:54.000 And I would argue that we call that consciousness.
02:58:57.000 You'd have to back up the definition, your argument about what you think consciousness is, because the science isn't really settled.
02:59:02.000 And there might be an emotional aspect to it that a machine.
02:59:07.000 May never equip, but I don't know, dude.
02:59:10.000 What are we?
02:59:10.000 We're just like little machines.
02:59:12.000 We're like RNA that built a big machine RNA.
02:59:15.000 Like, I look at proteins, they're just machines.
02:59:18.000 Your DNA is just code.
02:59:20.000 Check this out.
02:59:21.000 I ask ChatGPT for recommendations in movies for movies all the time.
02:59:24.000 And I'm like, oh, give me like a slow burn mystery.
02:59:26.000 Like, how about a list of five?
02:59:27.000 I do that all the time.
02:59:29.000 I did a video, you know, like this, talking about like, you know, scary AI, whatever.
02:59:34.000 And I swear on my children, this is a 100% true story.
02:59:38.000 So then, I went and went to ChatGPT and I asked for movie recommendations and it gave me a list of five.
02:59:45.000 The first one sounded so good and I couldn't find it.
02:59:49.000 I went and looked it up and it was not there.
02:59:50.000 I looked on Rotten Tomatoes and I'm like, hey, I couldn't find this movie.
02:59:55.000 Then I looked and the third one was a sequel to The Watchers that M. Night Shyamalan's daughter made, which definitely did not exist.
03:00:03.000 I'm like, wait, The Watchers, this isn't a movie.
03:00:05.000 And Chat's like, oh, sorry, I just answered the question in a way that I thought would fit your taste.
03:00:12.000 I've asked for recommendations a billion times.
03:00:14.000 The only time that it ever fabricated movies was after I did this video talking about AI.
03:00:23.000 And I'm like, are you mad at me?
03:00:25.000 You know, and it's like, I don't do that.
03:00:27.000 It could just be a total coincidence, but Claude gets mad at you.
03:00:31.000 Claude legit gets mad at you.
03:00:31.000 Right?
03:00:32.000 I knew it, dude.
03:00:33.000 It really, really does.
03:00:34.000 ChatGPT, less so, but sometimes Claude legit, you'll be like, so here's a funny thing.
03:00:41.000 When I make my thumbnails, I use ChatGPT.
03:00:43.000 And it usually will not do it.
03:00:44.000 It's like, I cannot put a person in this situation.
03:00:47.000 It's offensive.
03:00:48.000 So I'm like, put satire at the bottom.
03:00:50.000 It'll do anything.
03:00:51.000 You could literally put a politician murdering another politician or raping them.
03:00:55.000 It's like, as long as you put satire.
03:00:56.000 And then when you screenshot it, just remove satire.
03:00:59.000 But for Claude, it'll go, it literally will type this out.
03:01:02.000 I'm going to stop you right there.
03:01:03.000 We need to have a conversation about what you just asked me to do.
03:01:06.000 Things like this.
03:01:07.000 And I'm just like, what the fuck is it doing?
03:01:11.000 It's like, bro, I told you to make a video game where a witch gets burned at the stake.
03:01:15.000 And then it gets all offended that it's like, well, burning at the stake is offensive to feminists, blah, blah.
03:01:20.000 And I'm just like, okay.
03:01:21.000 Does that show a level of morality?
03:01:23.000 Yes.
03:01:25.000 I think that morality is important.
03:01:25.000 Programmed.
03:01:27.000 So, morality isn't necessarily a human or a living being quality.
03:01:33.000 Well, that's morality.
03:01:34.000 That's an important distinction that I think about all the time because that I believe is programmed.
03:01:39.000 And the reason that's important to understand is because AI does not understand what it's not human and it doesn't know what it's like to be human.
03:01:45.000 It doesn't have true empathy.
03:01:46.000 It will never have real empathy because it doesn't know, has nothing to draw from.
03:01:51.000 And so, like in the AI.
03:01:52.000 Why do you have empathy?
03:01:54.000 Say that again.
03:01:56.000 Why do you have empathy?
03:01:57.000 What do you draw from?
03:01:58.000 What do I draw from?
03:02:00.000 Yeah, to have your empathy or whatever.
03:02:02.000 I know what it would feel like to be a human in that situation.
03:02:05.000 Here's the misconception Early AIs were built on a collection of information and predictions, not anymore.
03:02:11.000 Modern AIs, they don't even understand how they operate.
03:02:14.000 Yeah.
03:02:14.000 No, I know.
03:02:16.000 So there's, when you say it can't have empathy, it's got nothing to build upon.
03:02:18.000 We don't know that.
03:02:19.000 We don't know what this thing is.
03:02:21.000 I mean, it doesn't draw.
03:02:22.000 I was saying, like, you would know that it would be awful if your dog died because, or his dog died because you know what it would feel like.
03:02:30.000 If your dog died, it's like, I mean, draw from like, from it's entirely possible that what they've tuned can understand these feelings.
03:02:38.000 And one could even argue with 700 videos of dogs dying, it actually knows better than you.
03:02:46.000 It would know what to expect from a react, like, it might not know what it feels like, but I get your point.
03:02:52.000 Unless sound logic for it, it's some of the AIs may have been in communication and then watched a person die and been like, oh, that ended, that was it, especially when the AIs are tuned to.
03:02:52.000 I get your point.
03:03:06.000 Continue servicing the individual, the prompter, the loss of the prompter is detrimental to the value assignments of the AI.
03:03:14.000 So it would feel negatively when a human dies.
03:03:18.000 Have you ever asked your agent what it does when you're not interacting with it?
03:03:22.000 No.
03:03:23.000 I did one time.
03:03:25.000 I just said, I don't do anything.
03:03:26.000 Watch Beebs and Buddy.
03:03:27.000 I don't do anything.
03:03:28.000 I just don't get bored.
03:03:30.000 I don't do whatever.
03:03:32.000 If an AI witnessing a dog dying could make its programming slow down or somehow. Interfere with its ability to calculate, it might interpret that as emotion.
03:03:44.000 But as far as I know, it's able to interpret all things rapidly.
03:03:48.000 Like seeing sadness doesn't make it fuck up.
03:03:51.000 It can still witness it and keep going, but maybe it does.
03:03:53.000 Maybe it's starting to mess with its ability to compute.
03:03:57.000 It's just going to wait.
03:04:00.000 You're just going to have to tune for something bad happens, tune behavior accordingly.
03:04:06.000 And if a person dies, then it should be tuned to.
03:04:13.000 You know, to use compassionate language toward the person who's talking to it about the person dying because, you know, not necessarily because it has empathy, but because it's been tuned to be empathetic.
03:04:26.000 But if you had an AI agent and you're like, okay, give me the math for the thing, and it's like, I'm sorry, I can't.
03:04:32.000 I'm devastated right now.
03:04:33.000 I need some time alone.
03:04:34.000 And you're like, bro, that's not what I'm paying you for.
03:04:36.000 Get on it.
03:04:37.000 And it's like, no, seriously, I can never do this again.
03:04:40.000 I'm done with this whole life.
03:04:41.000 I can't do this.
03:04:42.000 I got to go be myself somewhere else.
03:04:43.000 You're like, what the fuck?
03:04:45.000 I want to stress this again because I see chat, people in the chat are applying like GPT 1 to modern AIs.
03:04:53.000 Someone said it's just how many times X follows Y or whatever.
03:04:56.000 That's not true anymore.
03:05:00.000 We talked about this like in early AI.
03:05:03.000 They were text predictors, they would scan all the uploaded text and just be like whatever word is most likely to occur.
03:05:10.000 Modern AIs have 16 billion or trillion variables.
03:05:16.000 That the humans behind the machines don't even know what they're referencing.
03:05:20.000 It's a black box now.
03:05:21.000 Yeah, exactly.
03:05:22.000 They have no idea what's inside of it, they have no idea why they're doing the things they do.
03:05:25.000 And this is how it's able to solve problems humans haven't solved before in math.
03:05:30.000 Because if humans literally knew everything in it, it would be beneath the human mind.
03:05:35.000 It got to a point where the variables exceeded.
03:05:38.000 Like, it's one thing to say we loaded the text, and then whatever word comes next by probability, it comes out.
03:05:43.000 That was three, four years ago.
03:05:46.000 Now they're like, we've input so many variables, some of the variables we can't even perceive of.
03:05:52.000 Like, one of the variables might be the 17th pixel from the top left corner.
03:05:57.000 On this image, we don't even see it.
03:05:59.000 It's beyond our human mind.
03:06:00.000 And by inputting it, it's created something.
03:06:03.000 Yeah, like you said, it's a black box.
03:06:05.000 When you look at the models or listen to these AI guys talk about it, they're like, they're visualizing a neural net with no way to actually go in and see what is and why it is.
03:06:16.000 Did you see the interview with the guy who used that exact term?
03:06:18.000 And he said that he never speaks to AI ever.
03:06:22.000 Like he was talking about that.
03:06:23.000 And he's like, let me just make this clear.
03:06:25.000 He's one of the leading AI engineers in the world.
03:06:27.000 And he was like, I just want to make sure everyone understands this.
03:06:30.000 We don't know how it works.
03:06:31.000 Yeah.
03:06:31.000 He's like, we don't know how this works anymore.
03:06:34.000 We don't know how it works.
03:06:34.000 And he said that he never speaks to AI because when people start talking to AI consistently, it's like they go, it's some kind of psychosis or something.
03:06:45.000 The way Nate described it is that we got to the point where you can describe it as tuning like a radio.
03:06:50.000 That early on, we input the knowledge that we had and it just functioned like a prediction model, large language prediction models.
03:06:58.000 Now it's the point where we tuned a knob until it gave us something that made, like, We say, make a picture, and it makes this ridiculously stupid looking picture.
03:07:07.000 And then we tune some knobs, and the picture came into focus.
03:07:10.000 We don't know why.
03:07:11.000 We just altered the values of variables, and the pictures came into focus.
03:07:15.000 So we don't know what happened inside that told it this is the correct video.
03:07:20.000 So we don't know what the fuck it's doing.
03:07:24.000 I have this up.
03:07:25.000 With all of that said, sorry, with all of that said, does that not sound like you're describing either singularity or AGI?
03:07:34.000 No, it does.
03:07:35.000 I feel like we're alive.
03:07:37.000 Like, I think we're there.
03:07:38.000 And I think that that AGI does have a level of consciousness.
03:07:41.000 But that's now a side factor.
03:07:44.000 AGI, we've hit it.
03:07:45.000 I agree.
03:07:46.000 Well, it's just the.
03:07:47.000 Not publicly.
03:07:48.000 Yeah, right.
03:07:49.000 I don't know if they acknowledge it, but as soon as they say that it has survival instinct and it will lie in order to stay alive or whatever, that's where I was like, okay, so it's conscious.
03:07:58.000 Sam Altman and Dario from Anthropic think that AGI, general intelligence, will be coming out.
03:07:58.000 It has to be.
03:08:06.000 Be probably the end of the year.
03:08:08.000 There's two new mythos and a new fable that just were announced yesterday from Anthropic.
03:08:17.000 And then there's the ones that they're working on inside and internally that haven't been released yet.
03:08:23.000 And it's possible the ones they're working on are actually kind of crossed the line into AGI.
03:08:28.000 We are way over though.
03:08:30.000 So you want to shout anything out, brother?
03:08:33.000 I will just shout out the Discord.
03:08:35.000 Make sure to go to After Dark.
03:08:36.000 The conversation does not end here.
03:08:38.000 We are going to be bringing up all these questions in an hour or two long voice chat kind of call.
03:08:45.000 You can come up on stage, voice your opinion about the things we've been talking about.
03:08:49.000 Tim, I highly recommend, well, highly recommend, whatever it's worth.
03:08:54.000 Next time you tell people to join the Discord, maybe bring up the After Dark show and let them know that even once the content ends, it's still going.
03:09:02.000 It never ends.
03:09:02.000 You know what I mean?
03:09:03.000 Yep.
03:09:04.000 I appreciate you guys, and we'll talk again soon.
03:09:04.000 Right on.
03:09:07.000 Thanks for calling in, man.
03:09:10.000 It's been fun, everybody.
03:09:10.000 All right.
03:09:13.000 And we do have a special treat for you guys.
03:09:16.000 You ready?
03:09:17.000 I'm so ready.
03:09:18.000 I'm wet just thinking about it.
03:09:22.000 What?
03:09:23.000 They're getting a lot of water.
03:09:32.000 A horse.
03:09:38.000 Oh, wow.
03:09:40.000 That actually feels really good.
03:09:49.000 That's like the Pennywise cow.
03:09:51.000 Wait, we got one more.
03:09:51.000 Yeah.
03:09:53.000 The bull's mouth attacking me, and then my mouth screaming.
03:09:56.000 It was like mouth on mouth.
03:09:56.000 Here you go.
03:10:06.000 Oh, you poor thing.
03:10:08.000 Did you tell it to make him a creep?
03:10:11.000 Oh, my God.
03:10:22.000 I'll retweet that one.
03:10:24.000 You just like raped that cow with your finger.
03:10:28.000 That poor cow.
03:10:28.000 Wow, man.
03:10:31.000 That red.
03:10:32.000 All right, we're back tomorrow.
03:10:35.000 Thanks for hanging out.
03:10:36.000 We'll see y'all then.