Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 08, 2026


Russian ATTACK On NATO Country THWARTED, WW3 Fears Debated| Timcast IRL


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00:02:27.000 Romanian intelligence reports they stopped a Russian sabotage operation on NATO military targets.
00:02:34.000 And this is a wild claim to make.
00:02:37.000 Because if it's true, this means that Russia made a direct attempt attacking a NATO member.
00:02:43.000 But everybody's kind of keeping the temperature down.
00:02:46.000 Now, of course, the debate rages on over whether or not calling it World War III is warranted.
00:02:52.000 And we have that debate.
00:02:54.000 We have the media simultaneously, various outlets saying, this is World War III, it is here.
00:02:59.000 Especially in Europe and Eastern Europe.
00:03:01.000 But then we have other publications saying, stop calling it World War III.
00:03:05.000 The reality is, everybody just nobody knows.
00:03:09.000 Everybody's got thoughts on when or how it will happen, but nobody really knows because when you look back at history, hindsight is 2020.
00:03:16.000 But should it be true that Russia actually attempted a strike, an attack in a NATO member country, that could trigger Article V, which would require other NATO member states to join in and go to war with Russia.
00:03:30.000 So far, it doesn't seem like Romania is arguing this is an act of war, but it is still an escalation.
00:03:36.000 And the question, then, of course, is how many grains of sand until you have a heap?
00:03:41.000 With the missile incursions into Polish territory, and oh, whoops, Russia made a mistake.
00:03:47.000 We're not going to think too much about it.
00:03:50.000 With the CIA director meeting in private with Russian intelligence for reasons we don't understand.
00:03:55.000 And now with this, we have snowflakes potentially forming an avalanche, but we just don't know when or even if.
00:04:02.000 Something could kick off.
00:04:03.000 Now, recently we saw Ukraine attack the Iranians in the Caspian Sea as they were supplying Russia with weapons, expanding the conflict, roping in the Iranians into the Ukraine Russia conflict, which of course brings the Americans in, which we've already kind of been in.
00:04:19.000 And then we're entangled in this Iranian war, which seems to be another quagmire.
00:04:25.000 And our last carrier was pulled out of the Pacific for the first time in generations.
00:04:28.000 And China, of course, is salivating over Taiwan.
00:04:31.000 Then you've got the capture of Maduro and the capitulation of Venezuela and the isolation of Cuba.
00:04:36.000 We do have conflicts bubbling up all over the world.
00:04:39.000 Maybe it means nothing, but we'll go through those debates.
00:04:42.000 Plus, we've got some jurors coming out from the Lindsey Clancy trial, outraged that one man would not say she was not guilty.
00:04:42.000 We'll talk about it.
00:04:52.000 And so she has a mistrial.
00:04:56.000 But apparently they're raising tons of money and they're all very excited about it.
00:04:59.000 We'll talk about that.
00:05:00.000 Plus, we've got some funny Hunter Biden news, a controversy over Channel 5 allegedly giving him an email list illegally.
00:05:07.000 Now they're claiming they didn't, but others are saying that they did.
00:05:10.000 And then.
00:05:10.000 Democrats are actually contemplating Hunter Biden for 2028.
00:05:14.000 Not kidding.
00:05:15.000 They're like, who do we got?
00:05:18.000 Who do we got?
00:05:19.000 I guess John Ossoff and AOC.
00:05:21.000 Joining us today to talk about this and, of course, everything else, we've got James Klug.
00:05:26.000 What's going on, brother?
00:05:27.000 My man, thank you so much for having me.
00:05:28.000 My name is James Klug.
00:05:29.000 I do political street conversations over at youtube.comslash James Klug.
00:05:34.000 You guys, I'm very happy to be here.
00:05:35.000 Thank you so much for having me.
00:05:36.000 Of course, the boys are hanging out.
00:05:37.000 Big pleasure, man.
00:05:38.000 It feels like the moment in history when.
00:05:41.000 There's this mechanic in ancient Greek plays called the Deus Ex Machina.
00:05:45.000 It means the day of the machine, the God and the machine.
00:05:48.000 God from the machine.
00:05:48.000 Yeah, and it seems like AI might be that God that we pulled Excalibur out of the stone and we have the solution to the problem.
00:05:55.000 I just got to wield it.
00:05:56.000 Learn to wield that thing.
00:05:57.000 I just told Ian about the OpenAI.
00:06:01.000 What is it?
00:06:01.000 They don't even have it.
00:06:02.000 It's an internal model that did some crazy mathematics and now he thinks that the world is ending.
00:06:08.000 No, no.
00:06:09.000 It's a reference to, in storytelling, you as the creator of this universe can make things happen to fit your narrative.
00:06:14.000 Or in the play, it would be like the world's falling apart, everyone's losing at the very end.
00:06:18.000 A big machine literally would fly on stage and be like, I am God, I am here to solve it.
00:06:22.000 And it would make everything right again.
00:06:24.000 It was a real cheat machine.
00:06:24.000 It's like plot armor, basically.
00:06:26.000 Plot armor?
00:06:26.000 It basically means plot armor.
00:06:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:28.000 Like the world's ending, and then all of a sudden you go, right as the meter is about to strike, another meter hit it out of the sky, and it was gone.
00:06:33.000 You see it in so many American movies.
00:06:36.000 Just at the end of the movie, where all hope is lost, the thing saves the day.
00:06:39.000 Well, it feels like that might literally be happening with artificial intelligence.
00:06:43.000 Carter's here.
00:06:44.000 I am here, and yeah, it's getting pretty crazy out there with AI and everything else.
00:06:48.000 But yeah, it's been a great weekend.
00:06:49.000 Glad to have you all here, and glad to be back at it.
00:06:52.000 Tim, let's go.
00:06:53.000 Also, I just want to point out Carter went Super Saiyan.
00:06:55.000 I did.
00:06:56.000 You know, this is the.
00:06:57.000 Yeah.
00:06:58.000 Put my hair on the man.
00:06:59.000 I'm digging the new look, man.
00:07:01.000 Whoa.
00:07:01.000 He's like literally transforming.
00:07:03.000 He's never looked stronger, actually.
00:07:04.000 Indeed.
00:07:05.000 I watched an AI video of it was a Seinfeld thing where George was Krillin and Jerry was Piccolo.
00:07:05.000 Thank you, man.
00:07:11.000 And he was arguing about how in mid transformation, he got punched in the face.
00:07:15.000 And Jerry was like, why not transform in the car and then come to the fight?
00:07:18.000 It was wild where AI is currently at in creating a Seinfeld Dragon Ball parody.
00:07:24.000 It's just.
00:07:25.000 We're going to talk about this because Astra just came out, GPT Astra.
00:07:29.000 And.
00:07:30.000 Guys, this may shock you, but I was wrong.
00:07:34.000 Now that we've let that settle, my timeline was way off.
00:07:37.000 I was like, man, in like two years, you'll be able to go on Disney and say, make me Spider Man and the Hulk fighting zombies or whatever.
00:07:44.000 No, it's literally right now.
00:07:45.000 The things that GPT Astra can do, Grand Theft Auto 7 will be done in a year.
00:07:51.000 In a decade.
00:07:51.000 I'm learning.
00:07:52.000 We'll get into all that.
00:07:53.000 I don't want to go too deep because we've got news to talk about, but I appreciate it.
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00:09:01.000 And also don't forget the new show, The Tim Pool Show, on Rumble and YouTube.
00:09:06.000 Our latest episode was a legal analysis on the Lindsey Clancy.
00:09:10.000 We recorded this as the news was coming in.
00:09:13.000 And of course, we've got two expert lawyers disagreeing on what the outcome should have been, but it was a fantastic conversation.
00:09:20.000 We also have Infiltrating the DSA, which is popping off 400,000 views.
00:09:24.000 The show's doing really, really well.
00:09:25.000 I got to be honest, I think people are tired of the anger, the vitriol, and I think most people are kind of just tired of the 24 7 news cycle.
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00:09:46.000 It's much lower energy.
00:09:47.000 And with that being said, we're going to talk about the state of social media today and the need to turn the volume down.
00:09:55.000 Everybody is just increasingly getting crazier.
00:09:56.000 So we'll talk about that.
00:09:57.000 Before we do, of course, let's talk about where we're getting with this war stuff.
00:10:01.000 We got this report from Reuters.
00:10:03.000 Romanian intelligence service says it prevented Russian sabotage operation.
00:10:08.000 Romania's SRI intelligence service prevented a sabotage operation coordinated by Russia on Romanian territory.
00:10:16.000 As Ukraine's European allies seek to counteract with this air Moscow's attempts to destabilize them, European countries blame Moscow for sabotage, cyber attacks, and disinformation targeting supporters of Kiev's war effort.
00:10:26.000 They include an August drone attack at Leipzig Halle Airport, is it Halle?
00:10:33.000 That ratcheted up tensions between Berlin and Moscow.
00:10:36.000 Russia has repeatedly denied any involvement in sabotage.
00:10:39.000 The Russian embassy in Bucharest did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Tuesday.
00:10:44.000 Now, this is absolutely insane.
00:10:46.000 Russia has shut down the consulate in St. Petersburg, the German consulate.
00:10:50.000 Germany has shut down the Russian consulate.
00:10:53.000 They've accused Russians of drone striking an airport.
00:10:57.000 There is now direct accusations that Russia has launched physical military strikes on NATO countries, including Germany and Romania.
00:11:06.000 The question, I suppose, is let me do this.
00:11:10.000 I know everybody gets angry when we put World War III fears or escalation in the title, but my friends, This is not me being like, hey, let's say World War III because it'll do better and it'll freak people out.
00:11:25.000 Literally, when you search it on Google, you have conflicting arguments over the state of global conflict.
00:11:31.000 Stop declaring World War III, says Loai Institute.
00:11:34.000 Has World War III already started, says the New York Times?
00:11:36.000 No, we are not on the eve of World War III, says Asia Times.
00:11:39.000 The Japan Times, are we on the verge of World War III?
00:11:42.000 Here's the hill.
00:11:43.000 World War III is already here.
00:11:49.000 Real clear defense.
00:11:50.000 The Washington Examiner writes World War III has arrived.
00:11:55.000 Barack reveals secret Israel Syria talks, warned small military mistakes could spark World War III, how World War II could turn into World War II.
00:12:01.000 The point is every major publication internationally has some article saying this is the debate right now.
00:12:09.000 With Russia attacking Germany, with Russia attacking Romania, with Ukraine striking Iranian shipments to Russia through the Caspian, with the U.S. strike on Venezuela, the capture of Maduro, the isolation of Cuba.
00:12:22.000 With the war in the Persian Gulf, with Iran refusing to back down, and China running sorties over Taiwan, we have conflicts bubbling up from every major world power in nearly every corner of the planet.
00:12:34.000 The question, of course, is legitimate.
00:12:36.000 Are we staring at World War III?
00:12:39.000 Or are people so tired of clickbait they don't want to recognize an escalation?
00:12:44.000 Finally, is it all really just hubbub and conflicts happen all the time?
00:12:49.000 It's not hubbub.
00:12:50.000 It's the Great War.
00:12:51.000 You call World War I the Great War.
00:12:53.000 It started in 1914.
00:12:54.000 It's essentially never ended.
00:12:56.000 It toned down when the Allies won the first time around.
00:12:56.000 It.
00:12:59.000 They split a bunch of Germany apart.
00:13:01.000 Hitler then comes to power.
00:13:03.000 World War II begins, but it was essentially the Great War continued.
00:13:06.000 He still wanted to take over France.
00:13:08.000 There was animosity from the previous fighting.
00:13:10.000 Now, then the war went cold, and the Soviet Union and the Americans pointed weapons at each other for 70 years.
00:13:17.000 And now we're seeing this iteration of that same conflict.
00:13:21.000 It's about Middle Eastern hegemony.
00:13:23.000 During World War I, the Ottoman Empire was destroyed by the French and the British, and they set up Israel, where it's at, basically that's when that began.
00:13:30.000 So, they took over Iran in early in the 20s and the 50s.
00:13:34.000 So, that's part of that conflict post World War I.
00:13:37.000 It's still vying and trying to seize control of the Middle East.
00:13:40.000 It's been going on for about a hundred years since airplanes were invented and we really mastered artillery bombardment.
00:13:45.000 Before it's opened up a new war, before like World War II, war was kind of a constant in Europe.
00:13:53.000 There was like nuclear weapons kind of ended that.
00:13:57.000 That's why we had the Cold War.
00:13:59.000 Europe is the big pain in the balls here.
00:14:01.000 Not, I mean, the Middle East is its own issue, but like what's going on in between Russia and Germany, that doesn't really have anything to do with the Middle East.
00:14:10.000 That has to do with Russia and Germany.
00:14:12.000 These guys are the usual suspects, both World War I and World War II.
00:14:16.000 Russia and Germany were major belligerents in it.
00:14:19.000 The third part of the equation is the Ottomans.
00:14:21.000 The Ottoman Empire, longest-there are no Ottomans now.
00:14:23.000 1917, it was broken up.
00:14:25.000 That was over 100 years ago.
00:14:26.000 The point that I'm making is what's going on now is Europe.
00:14:30.000 There are some people over there that are probably still like, yeah, the Ottoman Empire won't return to the Ottomans.
00:14:34.000 Yeah, I mean, I assume so.
00:14:35.000 Here's the point, guys, guys, guys.
00:14:37.000 War is the natural state of human civilization.
00:14:40.000 I know people don't want to hear it, they don't like to.
00:14:43.000 Talk about that.
00:14:44.000 But we grew up in a golden age.
00:14:46.000 The Soviet Union collapsed.
00:14:48.000 The proxy wars were winding down.
00:14:49.000 And we had Henry Kissinger's limited warfare.
00:14:51.000 None of it is good.
00:14:52.000 I'm not saying any of it is good.
00:14:53.000 We want there to not be war.
00:14:55.000 War is bad.
00:14:56.000 But all of human civilization, there's war nonstop.
00:15:00.000 Like the periods of the United States, how many, what is it like, 10 years of America's history was not at war?
00:15:04.000 If that.
00:15:05.000 But if you look at every other country on the planet, it's not unique to the United States.
00:15:09.000 No.
00:15:09.000 War was all, when the Soviet Union collapsed, the U.S. became a global hegemon.
00:15:13.000 Dominated everything through economics and the liberal economic order, the new world order, as H.W. Bush said.
00:15:18.000 And we grew up in this golden age of economic expansion in the United States where we were like, hey, we have these limited wars.
00:15:24.000 War is bad.
00:15:25.000 We don't want it.
00:15:26.000 For about 10 years, we had limited wars.
00:15:28.000 And then we got full scale invasion.
00:15:31.000 We had it in Desert Storm, don't get me wrong.
00:15:33.000 But the 90s was limited wars, what Henry Kissinger called it.
00:15:35.000 Ian brings it up quite a bit.
00:15:37.000 Then we got full scale occupation for 20 years with the Bush administration.
00:15:41.000 That period from the fall of the Soviet Union to Bush is an anomaly in world history, for sure.
00:15:47.000 The big question marks right now are the Chinese because the Chinese were allied with the Americans during World War II.
00:15:52.000 After the war, the Communist Party revolted and took over the country.
00:15:55.000 So that's kind of a question mark.
00:15:57.000 And the Russians now, the Federation is not the Soviet Union, so their behavior is a question mark.
00:16:02.000 And I think a lot of the technocracy that's being fielded out of the CCP with the Davos groups and things like that is a way to prevent a global war to go hot again.
00:16:11.000 We're like, if we can pacify the population through technocracy and get people to come together in a lot of ways, communication and things.
00:16:19.000 The things that have prevented.
00:16:20.000 Like global wars has been nuclear weapons and the liberal economic order.
00:16:26.000 Like, those two things have been the biggest reasons why there haven't been major worldwide conflicts.
00:16:33.000 The United States and Russia had a bunch of nuclear missiles pointed at each other, and so it was economics.
00:16:40.000 Like, and basically, the world was deciding whether or not it was going to be communism or market capitalism.
00:16:46.000 And market capitalism has made most countries that engage in it, including China, Wealthy enough to think that, you know what, it's probably not a great idea to engage in all out war.
00:16:57.000 For sure.
00:16:58.000 The largest commonly cited stretch in the United States without armed conflict is about seven years.
00:17:02.000 Yeah.
00:17:03.000 So, depending on how you like to parse it, but if.
00:17:03.000 That's true.
00:17:06.000 What's the definition of armed conflict there?
00:17:08.000 Like, are we talking just.
00:17:09.000 Because right now we're at war with Iran, but they're like, no, we're not.
00:17:12.000 And so I'm like, I'm not playing stupid games, okay?
00:17:14.000 We're clearly at war with Iran.
00:17:15.000 We blew up their leadership.
00:17:16.000 We're occupying the Persian Gulf.
00:17:17.000 We're at war.
00:17:18.000 And they don't want to declare it legally.
00:17:18.000 But not enough.
00:17:20.000 I'm not playing stupid, semantic games.
00:17:21.000 World War II was the last official declaration.
00:17:22.000 It looks like there's been a lot of war.
00:17:24.000 22 years out of 249.
00:17:28.000 Now, I guess because it's 250, so it's 22 years out of 250.
00:17:33.000 How long did Vietnam go for?
00:17:34.000 10 years?
00:17:35.000 15 years?
00:17:35.000 15 at least.
00:17:36.000 58 to 73 or something, or 72.
00:17:40.000 US advisors went in first before they started sending in a lot of troops.
00:17:44.000 They started, I want to say, let me check to make sure.
00:17:46.000 It was like the French were in there first, and then we sent advisors with guns.
00:17:49.000 It was kind of interesting.
00:17:50.000 I was having a conversation with a couple guys from the Czech Republic a few weeks ago when I was in Ceuta in Spain.
00:17:57.000 And one of their major concerns was Russia.
00:18:00.000 It was so top of mind, and where the U.S. was positioned, like where we were, and what our thoughts were about the conflict.
00:18:09.000 And for them, it's a huge deal.
00:18:10.000 And it's a huge deal to all these countries over there.
00:18:13.000 But their main question was like, you know, if they end up attacking or doing something like this to a smaller NATO ally, are you guys really going to support sending American men to go fight for that country?
00:18:25.000 To answer your question, 3,500 Marines landed on March 8th, 1965, when Johnson was the president.
00:18:30.000 Okay.
00:18:31.000 So eight years.
00:18:32.000 I thought it was way longer than that.
00:18:33.000 Okay.
00:18:34.000 Well, that was when troops officially or when the first American troops landed?
00:18:36.000 When Marines landed.
00:18:38.000 Oh, when Marines landed.
00:18:39.000 Before they had advisors in there before that advising the French troops.
00:18:43.000 Yeah, the Russians are badass humans, dude.
00:18:46.000 They're Viking descendants like we are.
00:18:48.000 You know, the Vikings went west and became Britons and then Americans, and the Vikings went east and south and became river men of the north.
00:18:55.000 The Russians, the fucking Russians, dude.
00:18:57.000 They're hardcore.
00:18:58.000 I see why they terrify people.
00:19:00.000 I apologize to all my Russian brethren out there.
00:19:00.000 Language?
00:19:02.000 I'm only trying to build you up.
00:19:05.000 Russians are not descendants from Vikings.
00:19:07.000 Modern Russians are primarily descendants of Slavics.
00:19:09.000 You're talking about the Rus?
00:19:10.000 I can Google them.
00:19:12.000 I watched them.
00:19:12.000 The Rus?
00:19:13.000 The Kievan Rus are from Ukraine.
00:19:15.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:19:16.000 And Kiev and.
00:19:17.000 The majority of Russians are not descended from Vikings.
00:19:20.000 Modern Russians are primarily descendants of East Slavic tribes.
00:19:23.000 Okay, but just, okay, guys, guys, let's just not.
00:19:25.000 Ian, correction.
00:19:25.000 They weren't.
00:19:28.000 I believe Kiev was the capital of the Russian Empire for some time, right?
00:19:31.000 I think so.
00:19:32.000 Yeah, that's what Russians came from.
00:19:34.000 This is what Vladimir Putin was talking about when he sat down with Tucker Carlson.
00:19:39.000 The Kiev and Rus were the actual first Russians in Ukraine.
00:19:41.000 That's part of why Russia looks at Ukraine as actual.
00:19:45.000 Look, Russia lost a soft power battle.
00:19:47.000 That's just it.
00:19:48.000 They lost the soft power battle.
00:19:50.000 The West was gaining influence with Ukraine.
00:19:51.000 That's threatened their natural gas monopoly.
00:19:54.000 The U.S. was courting favor with Ukraine and the EU.
00:19:59.000 Can I just point out that Phil was wrong about that?
00:19:59.000 Real quick.
00:20:01.000 Okay, hold on.
00:20:02.000 Put a pit in it.
00:20:03.000 Yes, okay, put a pit in it.
00:20:04.000 The point is Ukraine wanted to join the EU because the Schengen zone would allow Ukrainians to freely move out Europe and get jobs, which would dramatically improve their lives.
00:20:13.000 Russia couldn't compete with that.
00:20:14.000 They didn't have the resources.
00:20:16.000 And a lot of Ukrainians don't trust Russia for obvious reasons in their history.
00:20:20.000 So, Russia losing the soft power battle decides physical armed conflict, which is the line we say no to.
00:20:27.000 So, look, man, if I'm negotiating with somebody and I'm winning the negotiation, so you pull out a gun, you're the bad guy.
00:20:32.000 That's just it.
00:20:33.000 Anyway, Ian, make your point.
00:20:34.000 Phil was wrong.
00:20:35.000 Yeah, the Kievan Rus were descended from Vikings and Eastern Slavs.
00:20:39.000 So, what the point of that, you interrupting me there, was really annoying, dude.
00:20:42.000 I'm looking.
00:20:42.000 I'm sorry about Russians.
00:20:43.000 Yeah, Phil, you want to look?
00:20:45.000 You want to look at what it says?
00:20:46.000 You read an internet thing and you interrupted me.
00:20:48.000 If you really have real data, bring it up.
00:20:48.000 So, chill out.
00:20:51.000 It's as real as anything you look up on the internet.
00:20:54.000 Real shit.
00:20:55.000 I'm looking at the brave search.
00:20:57.000 A Russian guy says, Don't interrelate with stuff that you're not sure about because you read it on the internet.
00:21:02.000 Who has a sloppier take from AI?
00:21:04.000 We have common ancestry with the Russians in some ways.
00:21:07.000 Phil, you are completely wrong.
00:21:08.000 Completely wrong.
00:21:09.000 Yeah, the Kievan Rus, for which the Eastern Slavs were before that Vikings.
00:21:16.000 Oh, okay, all right.
00:21:17.000 And the Britons before Britain were Vikings.
00:21:20.000 Let me just pull this up.
00:21:21.000 Historical consensus indicates the original Rus people were Varangians, Norsemen, Vikings.
00:21:27.000 Mostly from modern day Sweden, who traveled down to Eastern Europe rivers to trade and raid.
00:21:33.000 So ultimately, what became the Slavic people were originally, like, maybe not Vikings, not the right word, but from that region.
00:21:39.000 The Eastern Slavic tribes with significant ancestral contributions from Finno Uruk, Turkic, and other local populations.
00:21:46.000 Whoa, look at this.
00:21:47.000 I got to say, Ian nailed it.
00:21:48.000 A Viking warrior named Rurik established a ruling dynasty in the 9th century, creating the political framework for early East Slavic lands.
00:21:56.000 The Vikings came down the Volga River.
00:21:57.000 That's how they were so dominant in Eastern Europe.
00:21:59.000 Was through the Volga and other rivers.
00:22:01.000 They were rivermen and they were seamen as well.
00:22:03.000 It says that they don't have significant Viking DNA.
00:22:03.000 Interesting.
00:22:06.000 However, the Rus people who established the first Eastern Slavic state, Kevin Rus, were likely of Scandinavian Viking origin.
00:22:12.000 The small Norse elite ruled over the Slavic population, gave the land its name, and provided the initial ruling dynasty, the Rukids, but they were genetically and culturally assimilated into local Slavic country over time.
00:22:23.000 Consequently, while Russians have Swedish Viking roots in their political and cultural ancestry, they do not have significant Viking DNA.
00:22:30.000 But that's because their country was established by the Norse or whatever.
00:22:36.000 And then other people came and joined after the fact.
00:22:38.000 That's what I'm reading.
00:22:39.000 Russia comes from the Rus' tying their national identity to the Norse origin founders.
00:22:43.000 Hardcore dudes.
00:22:44.000 Even though the genetic and cultural makeup remained overwhelmingly Slavic.
00:22:47.000 Yeah, they conquered and took over the territory, essentially, and then set it up legitimately.
00:22:51.000 So we have a lot in common with these people ancestrally.
00:22:55.000 The point was, I understand why people are afraid.
00:22:57.000 You're saying it was the Spanish people who are terrified of the Russians right now?
00:23:00.000 Well, I didn't talk to them.
00:23:01.000 I was talking to people from the Czech Republic.
00:23:03.000 Czechs.
00:23:04.000 I mean, it was the.
00:23:05.000 They kept.
00:23:06.000 They wanted to talk about the whole evening.
00:23:07.000 They wanted to know where the American people stood or where.
00:23:10.000 Me and my group stood on that issue.
00:23:12.000 And it's crazy because, dude, you talk to the average American, they're not thinking about this one bit.
00:23:17.000 I think because we essentially dominated the Cold War, the Americans think that the Russians are a non factor.
00:23:23.000 The truth is, the Russians are one of the most vicious humans on the planet, a lot like Americans.
00:23:26.000 And they both can save the day and wreck it.
00:23:32.000 So I think the reason the Allies won World War II is because the Russians, Hitler idiotically betrayed them, but the Russians, the defense of Stalingrad is one of the most heroic tales ever told by a human.
00:23:43.000 Ever, ever in the history of humanity.
00:23:44.000 It's maybe the most epic defense in combat.
00:23:48.000 A horrifying battle.
00:23:49.000 And it went on.
00:23:50.000 Bro, the Russians are a brutal people.
00:23:52.000 And I don't say that derisively.
00:23:54.000 Like, historically, from their own internal conflicts to living in the isolated north to fighting these wars and surviving winters.
00:24:03.000 We understand negative 60 degrees Celsius, like NATO.
00:24:06.000 But also, the important factor of like they win wars with the Zat Branigan method, which is sending wave after wave of their own men to die.
00:24:11.000 For sure.
00:24:12.000 Famously, in World War II, the issue was that the Germans were building these really elite.
00:24:17.000 Beautiful tanks that could withstand everything.
00:24:19.000 And the Russians were like, just make a bunch of crappy ones.
00:24:21.000 They'll blow up, but whatever.
00:24:21.000 Who cares?
00:24:23.000 You know, we can send wave after wave of cheap crap tanks and wear them down.
00:24:27.000 Yeah, they had what the T 51?
00:24:28.000 It's the Zerg.
00:24:29.000 You know what the Zerg is, right?
00:24:31.000 Yeah, yeah, mass amounts of troops to overwhelm the enemy, even though the enemy has better weapons that stop the onslaught.
00:24:37.000 So this is really, really cool, actually, for those that don't know.
00:24:39.000 Zerging is a military tactic where you just send as many of your lowest level guys as fast as possible.
00:24:45.000 And you'll see it a lot in competitive stuff.
00:24:47.000 Just Charge right in with all your lowest level dudes.
00:24:50.000 And it comes from StarCraft, where I could be wrong, but I believe it does.
00:24:54.000 The Zerg is the rudimentary basic soldier.
00:24:56.000 And you just, instead of trying to build up this complex military base with crazy science and tools, you just spam the weakest little guy and just keep sending him nonstop.
00:25:05.000 Zerglings.
00:25:06.000 The Zerg is an entire species of just overrun.
00:25:09.000 Now it's a verb that means to rush and overwhelm with immediate force, which is kind of like blitz.
00:25:14.000 Kind of funny that that's the word of the name of the country, rush in, you know?
00:25:16.000 Like they literally.
00:25:18.000 In World War II, it was like the story is told you die, the guy behind you, they didn't have enough rifles, but they had enough men.
00:25:23.000 They would pick up one of their fallen brethren's rifles and keep going.
00:25:26.000 That was the Chinese.
00:25:27.000 The Chinese did that too.
00:25:28.000 It's no man, no turning back.
00:25:30.000 I don't know.
00:25:30.000 They would be like, we're going to kill you if you turn around.
00:25:32.000 There's no other choice but to push forward.
00:25:34.000 And they survived and they won.
00:25:35.000 Stories like that come from the Korean War, like the Incheon Reservoir, I think it was.
00:25:42.000 Japanese too were ruthless like that.
00:25:43.000 They would do that kind of stuff?
00:25:44.000 Oh, yeah.
00:25:45.000 When it comes to, oh, your guys die, just keep charging, keep charging.
00:25:48.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:49.000 They would blow themselves up.
00:25:50.000 Oh, yeah.
00:25:50.000 Yeah.
00:25:51.000 The Chinese would like, they would send dudes to the front without rifles, and the guys with the rifles would be in the front, and they'd say, When someone dies, just pick up their rifle and you go.
00:26:01.000 When fighting the Japanese?
00:26:03.000 No, fighting the Americans during the Korean War.
00:26:04.000 Probably a lot of super poor people, probably, you know, maybe people in jail.
00:26:10.000 Hey, if you survive, you get freedom.
00:26:12.000 Maybe.
00:26:13.000 But yeah, the tactic of just sending wave after wave of humans into the meat grinder, I mean, that's kind of what's going on in Ukraine right now.
00:26:22.000 Like, they're at a stalemate because of the trench warfare.
00:26:26.000 Russians just keep sending people in, and the Russians have a lot more people than the Ukrainians.
00:26:30.000 Dude, with those drones, too, those, what are they called?
00:26:33.000 FPV, is it?
00:26:34.000 First person view, yeah.
00:26:36.000 Those are the ones where the goggles are.
00:26:37.000 Yeah, I mean, those got to be some of the most.
00:26:40.000 Brutal forms of warfare as well.
00:26:43.000 I mean, the toll that that's happening, having on troops has to be just the sound, everything.
00:26:50.000 And I mean, it's just horrifying.
00:26:51.000 I'm not like, I'm not pro Ukraine war, but I will say that the United States is learning a lot from what's going on in Ukraine and Russia.
00:26:59.000 And you sometimes wonder if that's the intended condition.
00:27:01.000 I mean, you know, when was the last time the U.S. got to do a full scale test of advancement?
00:27:06.000 Well, doesn't the U.S. do the same thing with Israel?
00:27:08.000 I mean, you're kind of looking at these people that are guinea pigs where we get to test all of our equipment.
00:27:12.000 And I think that's not talked about enough that a lot of the conflict we see with Israel may very well be Israel is a weapons developer.
00:27:20.000 They've got chip production, technology development, cybersecurity.
00:27:25.000 It's a U.S. sandbox.
00:27:26.000 I'm not saying it's the only reason, but they certainly love to sandbox out some of this stuff.
00:27:30.000 Oh, totally.
00:27:31.000 Absolutely.
00:27:32.000 And that sets us apart from our adversaries, where like you have China.
00:27:35.000 And a great example of that actually was the anti aircraft satellites that they had, or what was it in Venezuela?
00:27:45.000 You guys know what I'm talking about?
00:27:47.000 Is it anti air?
00:27:49.000 What were the radars that they had?
00:27:51.000 Oh, they just, there was a bunch of.
00:27:52.000 It was supposed to be detecting fighter planes and all that, right?
00:27:55.000 The Chinese said that they were sending the Venezuelans their top of the line stuff.
00:27:59.000 Now, obviously, they weren't sending their top of the line stuff.
00:28:01.000 They're not going to do that.
00:28:02.000 But they swore up and down that the radars could detect whatever the U.S. had to throw at them.
00:28:08.000 And that shit was just not true.
00:28:10.000 Exactly.
00:28:11.000 And that's where you have, you actually like have battle tested equipment that the U.S. has because of all these conflicts going on across the world.
00:28:19.000 And then, last thing as well, after that, I don't know if you guys saw those memes after those radars were like exploding from American aircraft, but it was like, oh, they actually did work.
00:28:29.000 You know that an American aircraft is nearby when the radars explode.
00:28:35.000 I mean, you know, the U.S. is the Venezuela op really kind of made it clear that the U.S. does still have the edge over, you know, our near peer or peer countries.
00:28:35.000 Yeah.
00:28:49.000 Now, granted, China.
00:28:51.000 And Russia have massive militaries, and I'm not trying to make the argument that the US would be able to handle a full scale war with China with the same kind of results that we got in Venezuela.
00:29:02.000 Clearly, that's not true, and that's not the point I'm making.
00:29:05.000 For sure.
00:29:06.000 But the US does have the edge over basically every other country, right?
00:29:11.000 I mean, if it were a situation where China was confident that they had the technology to handle our military, they wouldn't have all of their navies.
00:29:21.000 Or, sorry, all of their ships be built to naval specifications so they could use them in the event of a war.
00:29:28.000 This is something that's really interesting, too, I think, is you often hear people say, okay, well, China has that as well, right?
00:29:33.000 Oh, the U.S. has this?
00:29:34.000 Well, China has that.
00:29:35.000 Oh, F 35?
00:29:36.000 Well, China has an F 35 competitor.
00:29:38.000 The performance is the question that you should be asking after that.
00:29:43.000 How can it perform?
00:29:44.000 It can perform up to the level that our equipment can perform.
00:29:47.000 And I mean, look, I don't know.
00:29:47.000 Yeah.
00:29:50.000 I imagine China has.
00:29:52.000 Really, really good intel on what the US can do.
00:29:55.000 For sure.
00:29:55.000 And there's plenty of industrial espionage that goes on.
00:29:58.000 So, I'm sure that they have the schematics for a lot of stuff.
00:30:00.000 I've heard rumors and read stuff on the internet that says that they have basically eyes and ears in most of our aerospace companies and stuff.
00:30:09.000 But the materials that we use are still a secret, if I understand correctly.
00:30:14.000 So, you can make a plane that's shaped like an F 35 or shaped like an F 22, but the materials that it's made of are still something that the US has.
00:30:26.000 Let's jump to the story.
00:30:27.000 Speaking of material needs, oh boy.
00:30:30.000 World War III, ladies and gentlemen, Canada's pissed.
00:30:33.000 World War North America.
00:30:34.000 Trump hits back as Canada imposes new tariffs on U.S. goods.
00:30:39.000 Canada's decision to retaliate against Trump's recent tariffs has triggered another front in the trade war.
00:30:43.000 Now, I want to say right off the bat what you could expect is likely a serious negative for the American economy, for the American people, especially if you're working directly in these trades clothing, cheese, metal parts, wood products.
00:30:57.000 We're going to be short on aluminum.
00:30:59.000 That being said, I do think it's important for the United States to become self sufficient in many of these fields.
00:31:04.000 We can't.
00:31:05.000 We can't artificially rely on Canada.
00:31:07.000 Suffice it to say, I want to make sure I'm giving you a holistic view of what this means.
00:31:10.000 And that is, there will be an immediate negative.
00:31:13.000 There is no guarantee there will be a long term positive.
00:31:16.000 We have to make sure we can shape a long term positive in this.
00:31:19.000 And as I say with most things, whether or not we want these things to happen, we have to play our role in whatever is going on.
00:31:27.000 You can not like Trump.
00:31:28.000 You can like Trump.
00:31:29.000 You can vote for him.
00:31:29.000 You can vote against him.
00:31:30.000 When we get these circumstances, all I say to you is understand what it means.
00:31:35.000 Do your best to navigate this.
00:31:37.000 This is macro level stuff.
00:31:39.000 They say the new Canadian tariffs targeting roughly 20 billion in U.S. imports snapped into place on Tuesday, prompting President Trump to retaliate hours later, but trying to limit the federal government's ability to buy Canadian goods.
00:31:50.000 The president's move, conveyed in a social media post, escalated the widening trade war between the two longtime allies.
00:31:55.000 The latest front began after midnight when Canada began enforcing tariffs up to 50% on a variety of U.S. goods.
00:32:01.000 The approach is meant to mimic the taxes Trump imposed on Canada last month.
00:32:05.000 Now, I want to give you the general understanding here.
00:32:07.000 Again, You don't got to agree with this.
00:32:09.000 But we saw a series of free trade agreements between the United States, Canada, and Mexico, and we saw an attempt at this with the Trans Pacific Partnership.
00:32:15.000 Trump shut those down.
00:32:16.000 He got rid of NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement, brought in the USMCA.
00:32:20.000 There was a period over the past 30 years, the efforts of the liberal economic order, again, I'm not making that up, that's actually what it's called, wanted to create economic dependencies between nations for the purpose of preventing conflict.
00:32:33.000 They wanted to uplift Canada and Mexico's economy at the expense of the U.S. economy.
00:32:38.000 This means that the U.S. Doesn't refine aluminum despite the fact that we have bauxite mines, the raw material needed for aluminum.
00:32:46.000 Canada, which we import aluminum from, imports their bauxite from China and Australia and other countries.
00:32:53.000 There is absolutely no functional reason, no logical reason, for the United States to pay Canada for aluminum when we could build refineries here.
00:33:03.000 It's a political circumstance created by our leaders and theirs.
00:33:06.000 Basically, we cut a deal and say, tell you what, we'll get rid of our aluminum refineries.
00:33:10.000 You guys can have that manufacturing, which will create economic boons for your people, but it creates problems like this, where Canada then has leverage now because we don't have these refineries anymore.
00:33:21.000 They can come to us and say, you know what?
00:33:23.000 We're cutting you off from aluminum because you got rid of your ability to produce it yourselves.
00:33:28.000 Now, again, it was political when they did it, and it doesn't need to exist.
00:33:31.000 Trump and Trump's administration, their view of this is we should just, we have bauxite mines in Louisiana.
00:33:36.000 We can source our own raw materials, and this work can be for Americans who need these jobs.
00:33:42.000 So they're basically telling Canada, you have no right.
00:33:46.000 To our labor and to this trade.
00:33:47.000 Canada, of course, is pushing back.
00:33:49.000 Breaking these trade agreements will cause pain.
00:33:52.000 But the question is whether you agree with it or not, honest question why should we have established these trade practices in the first place?
00:34:00.000 It was, as far as I can tell, an intentional no going back tactic from the people crafting the liberal economic order.
00:34:07.000 They wanted to get us entangled where we couldn't untangle it.
00:34:10.000 And now they seem to have succeeded because of the pain.
00:34:13.000 It's like if your body's hooked up to a machine and it's helping you live, which is basically what they did when they drafted this liberal order, you try and take the machine, turn the machine off, good luck.
00:34:22.000 Will the body survive?
00:34:23.000 Like if we cut off.
00:34:25.000 Trade with China, can any of us?
00:34:27.000 The system can't really thrive.
00:34:29.000 I think the idea of just buying slop consumed the American people, where it was like, oh, well, if you get something made in Mexico, you can get it for a lot cheaper.
00:34:36.000 And how great is that?
00:34:38.000 10 years following NAFTA, we lost about, I think it was about around 700 to 800,000 manufacturing jobs 10 years after NAFTA was implemented.
00:34:49.000 I believe that's correct.
00:34:51.000 And it's like, yeah, you know, and the trade off was, okay, well, now we're looking at, Basically, modern day America, where you can get your super cheap thing from Amazon and it's super cheap and it gets here in a few hours, and that's great.
00:35:03.000 But eventually, if you're creating such a consumer economy where, like, yeah, consuming is really easy now, we made sure of that between Mexico, Canada, and China, it's super easy now.
00:35:14.000 But our industry sucks.
00:35:15.000 And especially all these things, funny enough, the tariffs, one of the industries that has actually grown has been, I believe, aluminum as well.
00:35:22.000 And these are important things, man, especially with the AI revolution.
00:35:24.000 Between American domestic production?
00:35:26.000 Yes, yes, sorry.
00:35:27.000 But with the AI revolution, Booming, where we can now, these new factories, these modern factories can now compete with that old argument of you can't compete with child labor and sweatshops.
00:35:38.000 We should bring the stuff back.
00:35:38.000 Yes, we can.
00:35:40.000 The AI stuff is both fascinating and terrifying.
00:35:44.000 I think there's an open door to a tremendous benefit from AI stuff.
00:35:48.000 But I think the problem with it is, and again, guys, this does, I am trying to still stay on the subject of the tariffs.
00:35:57.000 The rate of change is so.
00:36:00.000 Rapid right now with AI stuff.
00:36:01.000 Totally.
00:36:02.000 What we're seeing economically with these tariffs is stamp collecting based on what we are going to see.
00:36:10.000 It's indescribable.
00:36:11.000 It is indescribable.
00:36:12.000 I just converted 40,000 lines of action script into HTML to run a program from 20 years ago.
00:36:21.000 My mind is blown right now.
00:36:24.000 It's worth noting the US GDP from 25 to 26 range was 30.8 trillion to 32.95 trillion.
00:36:31.000 The Canadian GDP from the same time period.
00:36:33.000 Was 2.3 trillion to 2.59.
00:36:36.000 Now, granted, like we, it will cause pain to have a, you know, some kind of trade war with China, but the United States is, will win the trade war, right?
00:36:47.000 It'll cause, it'll cause pain.
00:36:49.000 It'll be a pain in the balls, you know, like Americans will notice, but Canada can't have the kind of trade war that they're implying they can.
00:36:57.000 Either to Mexico.
00:36:58.000 Yeah.
00:36:58.000 Exactly.
00:36:58.000 Yeah.
00:36:59.000 You know, like the U.S. is, has so much economic power, even now.
00:37:04.000 Right?
00:37:04.000 Even though we have to re industrialize, we have to bring jobs back to the U.S., we have to build factories here, we have to do a lot of stuff to really actually build up our own infrastructure here.
00:37:15.000 Even under these conditions that we are right now, it's 12 times larger than the Canadian.
00:37:22.000 They just can't compete.
00:37:23.000 Yeah, I think being straightforward about it hurting Americans is important.
00:37:28.000 I actually think the Trump administration did a pretty darn good job at selling that.
00:37:31.000 They said, hey, you're going to see prices raise, you're going to see that.
00:37:35.000 And it depends on.
00:37:37.000 Because reality sits it.
00:37:38.000 Yeah.
00:37:38.000 Right.
00:37:39.000 How long are the American people going to tolerate this, right?
00:37:42.000 A trade war with Canada, high gas prices, high product prices, higher product prices.
00:37:47.000 How long are they going to put up with that?
00:37:49.000 Do we think it's the right thing for the country to be bringing industry back to the best of our abilities?
00:37:54.000 I think so.
00:37:55.000 I think most people agree, but are they willing to actually allow for those price increases?
00:38:00.000 And are they actually willing to wait it out?
00:38:03.000 Because, I mean, this isn't helping the midterms.
00:38:05.000 You know, everyone knows that.
00:38:06.000 All of these decisions aren't helping the midterms, but are they helping the U.S. five years from now with, let's say, aluminum was the example and building that industry up in the United States?
00:38:15.000 Probably.
00:38:16.000 You're forcing it.
00:38:18.000 I've got to throw it back every single time to the population crisis that we're facing.
00:38:23.000 I don't think people realize just how apocalyptic the.
00:38:27.000 I want to say this again, because I know most of you guys that are watching this show understand Gen Alpha.
00:38:32.000 I said it 50 billion times at this point, half the size.
00:38:36.000 But this means that the next generation will be half the size.
00:38:39.000 And if this trend continues, the next generation will be half the size of that.
00:38:42.000 This is functionally the end of our entire system of governance and economy.
00:38:42.000 Right.
00:38:49.000 Doesn't mean the Constitution is gone.
00:38:50.000 Doesn't mean Congress is gone.
00:38:52.000 What it means is right now you've got complaints there's not enough members of Congress or the Senate to represent all of these people.
00:38:57.000 Give it 60 years if this trend continues, and people are going to say there are too many members of Congress.
00:39:01.000 They're going to say, why do we have a member of Congress every 30,000 people?
00:39:04.000 The nation, if this trend continues, we rapidly, rapidly decline the population.
00:39:10.000 This means technology is produced based on the scale of civilization.
00:39:17.000 So, for instance, a television cannot be made by a single person.
00:39:21.000 I don't know the exact number, but I think it's like a thousand plus individuals to make one modern $300 widescreen LED TV because each one of these individuals does some minor task.
00:39:31.000 But many hands make light work.
00:39:33.000 When our population declines, and I wonder if this is intentional, if you take a look at the Black Plague, afterwards we had a renaissance, tons of people died.
00:39:44.000 And the argument is the weak die, the strong survive, and the specialist, the crafty, it lifts up the caliber of the remaining individuals.
00:39:51.000 It's a horrifying thing to realize.
00:39:54.000 We're doing it to ourselves right now with population collapse.
00:39:56.000 The people who are incapable of reproducing and having families aren't doing so.
00:40:00.000 So I wonder.
00:40:02.000 If there are world leaders that just say, good, it's the intended condition.
00:40:06.000 They want the, I don't know, I guess, what did you all know or Harari, is that his name right?
00:40:13.000 The useless eaters.
00:40:13.000 Yeah.
00:40:15.000 These people, these world elites, want that group to be gone.
00:40:18.000 I think so.
00:40:20.000 Shrinking stress on the system by removing people that aren't contributing to the system inherently.
00:40:24.000 And then, like, I think you're right, James, that reindustrializing the U.S. is the right methodology, and you could use AI to help.
00:40:32.000 Design the, the, the, the AI allows for us to compete with the old argument that, oh, we can't compete with slave wages.
00:40:39.000 It was built so that we could not extricate ourselves from it.
00:40:43.000 I think the liberal economic order literally had a self destruct mechanism put into where it's like, this is, there's one way forward.
00:40:47.000 There's no going back.
00:40:49.000 Now you're intertwined.
00:40:50.000 Good luck re industrializing when it's half your jobs are in China now.
00:40:54.000 Right.
00:40:54.000 But we can.
00:40:54.000 Good luck.
00:40:56.000 I don't know if they saw AI coming in 1947 when they were drafting this up that they, that we could hyper localize our industry.
00:41:03.000 And look, and people still work at these advanced, um, Manufacturing plants, right?
00:41:07.000 It just, the jobs look different than they did in the early 1900s, don't they?
00:41:11.000 So, you know, you still get, hey, you can still get good quality jobs.
00:41:15.000 I'm pretty sure Tesla has some pretty advanced factories.
00:41:17.000 How many thousands of people still work there?
00:41:19.000 You know, I think my point overall about that is like, yeah, there is no better time to make sure there's national security reasons for this, there's tax reasons for this, there's industry reasons for this, just jobs, you know, creating jobs is, there's literally no better time.
00:41:37.000 To bring this stuff back.
00:41:37.000 And this is how our system was built.
00:41:39.000 Alexander Hamilton's report on manufacturers, they were looking around the United States saying, dude, we're buying everything from our enemies andor just other countries that we don't have like influence over.
00:41:49.000 We're farming.
00:41:50.000 We need to build up industry.
00:41:52.000 And so it's like, yeah, man, you might have five to 10 years where the American people aren't really happy about it, but this is forcing industry's hands or, sorry, the basically businesses' hands to build in the United States.
00:42:06.000 But you have to, and hopefully it succeeds.
00:42:07.000 You have to convince people of the environmental.
00:42:09.000 Costs because right away we're seeing data centers pissing people off, taking water sources and making noise, and like aluminum manufacturers will pump just foul chemicals.
00:42:18.000 You get benzene spills in the local water supplies.
00:42:20.000 Get ready to lose about 20% of your agriculture domestically if you're going to re industrialize for real.
00:42:26.000 The filthy ass shit that we got to put on American soil.
00:42:28.000 Maybe we don't need to bring back every single little thing, but would you agree that we need to bring back more medicine manufacturing instead of maybe China doing it?
00:42:35.000 Yes, at what cost?
00:42:36.000 Like if you're going to destroy 15% of your farmland, maybe, yeah, but you got to anticipate that.
00:42:40.000 Wait, why would you destroy 15% of what you're doing?
00:42:42.000 Well, if you're going to be pouring toxic sludge like they do in China with no EPA back into our riverways.
00:42:47.000 There's a night and day difference between how we do that stuff.
00:42:50.000 That's actually another reason we do it cleaner than all these other countries.
00:42:52.000 There's also the phenomenon that we're seeing of leapfrogging.
00:42:55.000 So we don't have the filthy 20th century materials right now.
00:42:58.000 We offshored that stuff.
00:42:59.000 And like in Africa, they have solar panels.
00:43:01.000 They skipped centralized electrical grids, they went right to local solar panels.
00:43:04.000 So we might be able to skip the filthy 1970 to 2010 factories and start building these super high tech refineries.
00:43:13.000 I think so.
00:43:14.000 I think there's something to be said for a population decline.
00:43:18.000 And there's questions.
00:43:18.000 There's conspiracies about whether or not the population of the planet is as big as it is.
00:43:22.000 And, you know, I'm a big fan of conspiracy theories.
00:43:25.000 One of the theories is that the Earth's population is nowhere near 8 billion and that it's probably closer to, you know, half a billion.
00:43:33.000 But they claim it's really big to justify why we have to reduce and why they can control us.
00:43:39.000 I don't believe that because I've looked at maps and I've been to places where my mind is blown, like Tokyo.
00:43:46.000 I've been there.
00:43:47.000 Yo, these places are insanely big.
00:43:49.000 There's a lot of people.
00:43:50.000 It's about almost double the size of New York City.
00:43:52.000 It's crazy.
00:43:52.000 It's absolutely insane.
00:43:53.000 And you can eat off the floor.
00:43:57.000 But it's wild when you look at some of these places and you're trekking a map and you can go there and you can see the map is correct.
00:44:04.000 The urban sprawl is insane.
00:44:07.000 Now, to Ian's point, with this population decline, what you're talking about isn't a consideration.
00:44:12.000 We are not going to be destroying farms because population is cut in half for the next generation, which means we can bring back this manufacturing and we need to, especially if our population is declining.
00:44:22.000 Yeah, it actually feels like it's a perfect synergy that it's better off with a smaller population because we don't have as many mouths to feed.
00:44:28.000 We can focus on getting the specific things done.
00:44:30.000 We don't have to hire a janitor to clean up the old janitor's mess.
00:44:34.000 Like, we don't need, you know, we can kind of because the whole job economy thing was sort of a psy-up from the banking system to get you to dig a hole and I'll pay you my money that you're going to pay me back in interest and I'll get you to fill the hole up and then you'll dig it up again and then you'll fill it up again.
00:44:46.000 And as long as you guys are busy borrowing my money and paying me back with interest, I'm making money and they're not going to form a revolution.
00:44:53.000 So, this jobs economy manipulation thing is kind of, we don't need to focus on that.
00:44:57.000 Does everyone have a job?
00:44:58.000 It's like, how productive is each human?
00:45:00.000 That's more what matters.
00:45:01.000 I'll go ahead at that point.
00:45:03.000 I kind of feel like market capitalism doesn't really allow for that kind of stuff.
00:45:09.000 Like, when you talk about, you know, dig a hole and fill it up, that's kind of what the government ends up doing with jobs programs.
00:45:15.000 But, like, if you've got a business, right, you're actually looking to, you know, produce something at a profit to pay back the bank that you've taken a loan for, like, you're not going to have just make work.
00:45:29.000 You can't really draw that comparison to, like, let's say Tim Cast.
00:45:33.000 Tim created Tim Cast.
00:45:34.000 It's not a, you know, nobody's like, it's not, it's not like it's just not doing, nobody's doing anything and there's no revenue generated elsewhere and value brought here and here and here.
00:45:44.000 And, you know, so I, maybe that's more of a government job thing where it's kind of that, I mean, yeah, because that, you know, the government then just prints the money.
00:45:53.000 Yeah.
00:45:53.000 You know, like you just make, make the money and, and pass it out.
00:45:57.000 A massive babysitting program.
00:45:58.000 Yeah.
00:45:58.000 But I mean, you know, like when it comes to like, you know, building cars, right?
00:46:03.000 It takes materials, it takes someone actually putting the cars together, sell the car.
00:46:08.000 Um, That's the actual product that was made in the economy.
00:46:12.000 There was actual time invested into it.
00:46:13.000 It had, you know, all the materials had to be produced and stuff like that.
00:46:18.000 And then you put the car together and you go out.
00:46:20.000 That's not like robbing Peter to pay Paul kind of thing, you know?
00:46:23.000 Bloated administration is really where the robbing Peter comes from.
00:46:26.000 Like, especially in the education industry, the administrators outnumber the teachers three to one or some garbage.
00:46:32.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
00:46:33.000 What you see in California, actually across the U.S., is most places you see for public schools, they're spending more per pupil than private schools in the areas.
00:46:42.000 Cost.
00:46:42.000 Yep.
00:46:44.000 Keep in mind, private schools for profit.
00:46:46.000 They're spending more, the government spending more per pupil than private schools cost.
00:46:51.000 You can probably guess that private schools have better results too.
00:46:55.000 Yeah, and the teachers don't get that money.
00:46:57.000 It goes to administrators, it goes to teachers' unions, it goes to all of the things that surround the school.
00:47:02.000 It doesn't go to actually teaching kids and it doesn't go to the teachers, it goes to the administrators, it goes to any number of bureaucrats in the public school system.
00:47:15.000 For sure.
00:47:16.000 The success of a program is.
00:47:18.000 Is the more bureaucrats that they have, the better.
00:47:20.000 So it's like, wow, we're spending all this money.
00:47:22.000 And it's like, is it going to the teachers?
00:47:24.000 Are the results good?
00:47:25.000 No, but we have a ton of bureaucrats.
00:47:26.000 It's awesome.
00:47:27.000 I don't have it.
00:47:28.000 That's how they measure success, literally.
00:47:29.000 Yeah, I don't have it pulled up, but I saw a tweet just today that shows that the basically test scores are just cratering, absolutely cratering in the past 20 years.
00:47:39.000 Like kids are getting.
00:47:40.000 And I blame George W. Bush a lot because of No Child Left Behind, right?
00:47:44.000 Like the incentive of No Child Left Behind actually was just push kids along so that way.
00:47:53.000 They graduate, they go to the next class, and it doesn't matter if they've actually learned stuff.
00:47:57.000 And so you end up just shoving kids through the system without being sure that they've actually retained anything.
00:48:03.000 It's better to hold kids back to make sure that they learn than to just shove them through so that they're not left behind.
00:48:11.000 You'll get either the kids that don't know what they're doing and they get shoved through and they have an F score, but they graduate, or you'll have the kids that are smart and they have to sit there and wait for everyone else to figure it out and then they get pushed through at the real snail's pace, too.
00:48:24.000 I've noticed with Using Chat GPT like a school book, it is literally like a science textbook and that you can ask questions to.
00:48:32.000 When you don't understand the term that it gives you, you can just ask what it means and then keep learning.
00:48:37.000 You can get like a conventional six month education in like 18 hours or like 24 hours, depending on how fast you're doing.
00:48:43.000 I'm one of the most pro AI guys around.
00:48:45.000 Like, I'm really a big fan of it.
00:48:46.000 I think that it's going to do great things.
00:48:47.000 But one of the things that they're finding is when people use AI to help them learn stuff, they don't retain it the way they do.
00:48:55.000 If they have to do it, like sit down and study and read and take a test on it, it just doesn't stick with you the same way.
00:49:02.000 So, like, they'll get better scores on their tests and you'll end up with higher grades.
00:49:08.000 But because they were using AI, they don't actually retain the information.
00:49:11.000 They didn't actually learn anything.
00:49:13.000 You need to teach kids also, like, how to think critically.
00:49:15.000 Like, how can I find this answer aside from just saying, like, Jeannie, give me the answer?
00:49:20.000 Yeah.
00:49:20.000 Like, that's obviously destructive to their learning process.
00:49:23.000 Some people learn through hearing, those people excel with a professor or someone, and other people excel with reading it on paper.
00:49:29.000 Those people.
00:49:30.000 Some physically.
00:49:31.000 Dude, I succeed.
00:49:32.000 Yeah, by doing it in the lab, like doing it.
00:49:33.000 I like doing both reading and hearing it.
00:49:36.000 I prefer all three if I can, but I think it's been a long time since we've talked about this, but I think there's like eight learning metrics that they track academically, and people have varying combinations.
00:49:47.000 Some people just can't learn by seeing it be done, some people can't learn by hearing it, some people can't learn by reading it.
00:49:53.000 They can only learn by taking their hands and actually grabbing something, and that means it's very difficult for them to learn abstract things.
00:50:00.000 GPT can give me the textual answer, and I haven't paid for the upgrade yet, but it can give me.
00:50:04.000 Visual representations of what it's explaining.
00:50:07.000 So, I want to talk about this cultural stuff real quick.
00:50:10.000 So, we're going to do a hard segue here.
00:50:12.000 We've got this post I found on Instagram.
00:50:16.000 It's a woman, I blurred out her name.
00:50:18.000 I'm not trying to be mean or rag on her.
00:50:19.000 And from all of this, I've markedly, I'm going to, I just, I have to, the volume has to be turned down.
00:50:26.000 I certainly don't think I'm one of the worst in online vitriol, I think a little bit sometimes.
00:50:34.000 So, it's a woman who says, I'm a widow raising two kids, and here's what nobody tells you.
00:50:37.000 And she's crying on camera, which means, She started crying.
00:50:40.000 She took her phone, she put it down, pressed record, and then turned her face and she performed for the camera.
00:50:45.000 It's very similar to what we see with the Lindsey Clancy stuff, which we'll get to in a bit.
00:50:48.000 I've got a couple other examples for you.
00:50:50.000 This is Brenna Morello posting How do we get this new trend of talking crap about your husband on the internet to stop?
00:50:55.000 It's a woman just basically attacking her husband for social clap.
00:50:59.000 And this is the more extreme example Chinese live streamer dances almost nonstop for four to six hours.
00:51:04.000 Every time viewers send gifts, she has to dance.
00:51:08.000 This is insanity.
00:51:10.000 What is currently happening on social media?
00:51:11.000 So, I'll say a few things.
00:51:13.000 Right now, I've heard a lot of comments from people saying that it feels meaner online.
00:51:19.000 It feels angrier online.
00:51:23.000 And, like, you know, what I like to say is that, you know, the saying is that a rising tide lifts all ships.
00:51:31.000 And I say that the low tide exposes all of the scum.
00:51:35.000 When the tide goes down, what's shown is the scummy floor and the critters and the urchins and things of this nature.
00:51:43.000 Right now, it's.
00:51:45.000 Just discernibly correct that most people are, it's political off season.
00:51:49.000 People are outside there with their families.
00:51:51.000 They're doing other things.
00:51:52.000 Views across the board in every capacity are down for everybody.
00:51:56.000 For us, it's about average.
00:51:58.000 I'll say it like this.
00:51:59.000 Technically, we should have more viewers based on general show growth, but we're at around the same amount of viewers that we had in the previous midterm cycle.
00:52:07.000 For sure.
00:52:08.000 Everybody's.
00:52:09.000 Sports podcasts are down.
00:52:10.000 Every show is down.
00:52:11.000 And the end result is people are desperate for views.
00:52:16.000 I've seen maybe.
00:52:18.000 I don't know, several dozen Instagram women crying for some random reason saying, please follow me.
00:52:26.000 I saw a woman saying, I have no choice.
00:52:28.000 I have to be an influencer.
00:52:29.000 Please don't scroll.
00:52:30.000 Follow me.
00:52:31.000 I have seen a hundred young women playing music where they say the exact same thing.
00:52:37.000 You're so lucky that Instagram showed you rare and eclectic music.
00:52:41.000 And I'm like, very few.
00:52:43.000 Like, people are desperate to be followed and desperate to be influencers.
00:52:48.000 Right now, I think many people are just tuning out.
00:52:50.000 And a really great example is Labor Day.
00:52:53.000 Over Labor Day weekend, I posted like three things.
00:52:57.000 It was a hypothetical.
00:52:59.000 I posted, if you could press a button that would kill somebody, but you got a million dollars tax free, would you do it?
00:53:03.000 The old classical hypothetical.
00:53:05.000 The next day, I posted, if you could press a button to kill a random person, but you were forced to take a million dollars, would you do it?
00:53:11.000 Now, they got tons of replies.
00:53:14.000 And I've got no B for any issue.
00:53:16.000 I don't care about the meta analysis debate.
00:53:19.000 Now, some people are like, Tim, you posted the same thing twice.
00:53:21.000 I didn't.
00:53:22.000 We'll talk about that in the after show, maybe.
00:53:23.000 The point ultimately is this if you are inside.
00:53:28.000 Online over Labor Day weekend, what does that say about you?
00:53:32.000 Now, hold on, everybody.
00:53:33.000 I'm not insulting you.
00:53:34.000 I'm not suggesting it inherently means you're a bad person or an angry person.
00:53:38.000 I was online too.
00:53:40.000 However, it does mean you will likely find a higher density of people not hanging out with friends and family.
00:53:46.000 Labor Day weekend, there was a rodeo at Nemecolon.
00:53:50.000 If you've never heard of Nemecolon or Nemecolon, I recommend you check it out.
00:53:54.000 It's in Pennsylvania, one of our favorite places ever to go.
00:53:56.000 We go several times a year.
00:53:57.000 It's a resort, a little higher end, but not.
00:54:00.000 Insanely expensive.
00:54:01.000 It's something you go to once per year for your vacation, but you're going to spend a couple grand if you can afford it.
00:54:05.000 Don't get me wrong, it's expensive.
00:54:06.000 They had a landing strip, but it's not like a billionaire expensive, you know, a private yacht or something.
00:54:12.000 But we go and hang out.
00:54:13.000 They had a rodeo and the family came and people brought their kids and they're watching horses and stuff.
00:54:18.000 It was absolutely fantastic family experience.
00:54:20.000 So, what does this say about your average everyday person who's trying to live their life, have a good job?
00:54:25.000 They're not sitting there on social media posting comments.
00:54:27.000 For sure.
00:54:28.000 So, when you do go on social media, like I did, a little bit, you know, Even over Labor Day weekend, posted a couple times, you are going to get a higher density of people who are perpetually online and less likely to be out and about with friends and family.
00:54:40.000 So, again, I'll stress this.
00:54:41.000 For those of you that were online, like I was, I'm not saying all of you are bad.
00:54:44.000 I'm saying a lot more angry people and permanently online people are active right now.
00:54:49.000 As the tide goes out and many regular people leave, there's still water, which is the most of you.
00:54:55.000 Regular people that are sitting there watching, smile on your faces saying, I may not agree with Tim on everything, but I enjoyed the show.
00:55:01.000 However, you are going to get a higher density of scum.
00:55:05.000 People who are angry in any direction, left, right, up, down, top, bottom, screaming, I hate you, you should die.
00:55:11.000 The people posting about Charlie Kirk's death anniversary and mocking it.
00:55:15.000 With excitement.
00:55:16.000 With excitement.
00:55:17.000 Right.
00:55:17.000 I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think this is a reflective of the whole world.
00:55:22.000 I think there are many good people that are still on.
00:55:24.000 That's the low tide.
00:55:26.000 But there's a lot of nasty people that have always been there.
00:55:28.000 You're seeing more of it.
00:55:30.000 And I think, for one, we got to turn the volume down.
00:55:33.000 Like, I'm not going to insult this lady or be dramatically mean about what she's doing.
00:55:36.000 That's fine.
00:55:36.000 She's a widow.
00:55:37.000 But I will be somewhat critical of her posting this for social clout.
00:55:40.000 At the same time, I think we should recognize a lot of this is, you shouldn't get depressed about it because I've heard a lot of people say, man, it's just so nasty online.
00:55:47.000 Yeah, yeah, but it's because regular, normal people aren't there right now.
00:55:50.000 And maybe they'll come back in the winter, and this means you'll get a higher density of more passive commentary, but the negative is always going to be there.
00:55:57.000 Yeah, down with it.
00:55:58.000 Political offseason, they're perpetually online.
00:56:00.000 People are just, I mean, you know, you do it too much, man.
00:56:04.000 It's corrosive to the soul.
00:56:06.000 I can even feel that, right?
00:56:07.000 I mean, I'm on X all the time.
00:56:09.000 I spent my weekend last weekend filming every single day and then going, you know, Reading articles, editing, and what?
00:56:18.000 Doom scrolling X, probably.
00:56:20.000 Like, I can, when I'm doing it too much, I can feel that.
00:56:23.000 It's kind of the feeling when you're at dinner and you have your phone out and it's on the table and you're just like, you know what, dude, I don't need a screen anywhere near me right now.
00:56:30.000 You guys ever do that where you have that realization and you say, okay, no, no, this doesn't need to be near me.
00:56:35.000 It's excessive.
00:56:35.000 It doesn't need to be on.
00:56:36.000 There's people that lean into this and it's just corrosive to the soul.
00:56:39.000 Dude, I started YouTube videos in 2006 and within June 2006, by like August, I, I, Pinpointed the danger of relying on text.
00:56:48.000 And I know a lot of these people that are complaining are in video, which is another thing.
00:56:52.000 Another point, but firstly, do not get lost in text.
00:56:55.000 There's no tone.
00:56:55.000 Stay focused on speaking and communicating with your words and listening to people's tone when they explain things to you.
00:57:01.000 Secondly, if you're going to use internet video, do it with a purpose, with a message to deliver, not about getting famous.
00:57:09.000 If you just do it just to get seen, you'll realize real quickly, what am I famous for?
00:57:14.000 Well, because I'm an attention whore.
00:57:16.000 And then your followers will be attention whores and you'll be a worse person as a result.
00:57:19.000 If you have a A message to deliver, use it, and you'll become popular as a result.
00:57:24.000 And then we're talking about boasting.
00:57:25.000 That came up a little bit before the show.
00:57:26.000 Yeah.
00:57:27.000 And how proud you are of your work and how willing you are to tell people how great you are.
00:57:29.000 There's a whole nuanced debate there.
00:57:33.000 Like some people, I think, maybe can go a little overboard about talking how awesome they are, but other people sell themselves.
00:57:38.000 And if they never said a word, you wouldn't know how that you wouldn't have ever heard that.
00:57:41.000 Maybe they don't believe in themselves.
00:57:43.000 So I don't know.
00:57:45.000 Like, you know, look, look, it's just a lot of people, especially right now with the desperation towards views, the game is.
00:57:55.000 What's going to get you traffic, right?
00:57:58.000 So, for many of these influencers, what we're seeing, ask yourself this why is everyone fighting?
00:58:03.000 Why is the left fighting the left, left fighting the right, right fighting the right?
00:58:05.000 Because of what kind of traffic, as well as what kind of traffic.
00:58:09.000 It's because everybody is in a mosh pit.
00:58:13.000 That's probably not even fair because mosh pits can be fun.
00:58:15.000 Everybody's in a mosh pit, everyone was thrown to the oubliette, as it were.
00:58:18.000 Chaos chamber?
00:58:19.000 Yeah.
00:58:20.000 And, you know, basically, everyone's facing a shortage of viewership.
00:58:26.000 And I'm stressing this again sports podcasts are down in viewership.
00:58:29.000 Like, You'd think they would remain high no matter what, especially with you got what preseason football and stuff.
00:58:34.000 They're down.
00:58:35.000 They're way down.
00:58:37.000 And it's like crazy down.
00:58:39.000 I don't know what's going on.
00:58:40.000 What I will say is there's a few things to expect.
00:58:44.000 Older, so there's less people to watch.
00:58:49.000 There's more shows, smaller, younger generations.
00:58:53.000 Older people, millennials, are starting to have a little bit more kids.
00:58:56.000 It's not like it's where it should be, but look, I just had a kid.
00:59:00.000 There's many more people having kids.
00:59:02.000 I used to post on the weekends all the time.
00:59:04.000 Some people are like, man, remember when Tim used to post a show every single day?
00:59:07.000 It was just always a video.
00:59:08.000 I got a family now.
00:59:09.000 And so it's going to be like, I'm here for IRL every time I can be.
00:59:13.000 And I have to balance doing a morning and nightly show when sometimes I got family duty.
00:59:17.000 And people wanting you to continue doing a daily show for more than even a couple of years is just unbelievable.
00:59:23.000 It's an insane amount of work.
00:59:25.000 See, a lot of people aren't willing to do that level of work.
00:59:28.000 But a lot of people are willing to.
00:59:29.000 I mean, there's new influencers that I see.
00:59:31.000 Let's say politics.
00:59:32.000 We all know politics.
00:59:33.000 Let's say.
00:59:35.000 There are more influencers than I've ever seen in the political space on, let's say, Instagram.
00:59:40.000 I don't know 90% of them.
00:59:42.000 And they're probably 50% of them came, like, basically grew the last year or so.
00:59:48.000 Well, here's the principal issue is that they're all just saying the same thing.
00:59:53.000 So the bulk of these lower tier, I'm not saying lower tier is an insult, smaller channels watch a big channel and then remake the video saying the same thing.
01:00:03.000 And you have, you know, 5,000 of these people.
01:00:06.000 That are doing this exact same thing, hyper saturating the market.
01:00:09.000 That's a lot like video games, too.
01:00:10.000 You'll see like a thousand games with basically the same game mechanics, all about with the same level of depth, that all have like a 70 rating on Steam that got people play for an average of 15 hours.
01:00:21.000 And it's just easy to reproduce what you know is going to catch people with a hook and not really thrill them.
01:00:28.000 Now, I definitely don't want people to think that I'm not like encouraging people to jump in and start your own political channel and have your own political takes.
01:00:35.000 Obviously, I want to super encourage that.
01:00:36.000 Let me put a pin in that for one second.
01:00:40.000 Whether it be political commentary or what have you, you should, to Ian's point early, you should do something because you want to do it.
01:00:50.000 Right.
01:00:51.000 Right.
01:00:51.000 Like if you're good at it and you continue doing it, like, you know, money and success, that, you know, hopefully that will come.
01:00:58.000 But like, I've been, I was in a band, the first time I was in a band was like 1993 or 92.
01:01:06.000 And I was in a band basically my entire life.
01:01:11.000 For, you know, until 2004, is when All That Remains really started to get going.
01:01:17.000 So from 93, for 10 years, I'm in bands trying, playing.
01:01:23.000 And even at that time, like I was playing such like heavy, like really heavy stuff.
01:01:27.000 Not alone was my ringtone in like 2000.
01:01:30.000 Thank you.
01:01:31.000 But like we were playing, like before All That Remains, we were playing like really, I was playing really heavy stuff that there was never a thought in my mind that I was going to be in a band that toured, that made enough money to support me.
01:01:43.000 It was just that's what I did.
01:01:45.000 And you love it?
01:01:45.000 I loved it.
01:01:46.000 And I did it because.
01:01:47.000 And then, you know, music changed and my taste in music changed a little bit.
01:01:51.000 And so like we started playing a little more melodic stuff.
01:01:54.000 And then we started to see some real success.
01:01:57.000 But like.
01:01:58.000 I was doing it for a decade thinking that I would work a regular job and play shows on the weekend.
01:02:02.000 Maybe I'd go on tour for a couple of weeks, but there was never a thought that I was going to be in a successful band.
01:02:09.000 So, and there's so many people out there that think, I want to go ahead and do, you know, political commentary because I see people are making money.
01:02:16.000 I see that there's money there.
01:02:18.000 And it's like, if you start it for that reason, you're going to end up being tired of it before you make money.
01:02:26.000 And you're not going to keep, like, you do something because you want to do it, and hopefully money comes.
01:02:31.000 Because you've been doing it, you learn your craft and stuff like that.
01:02:33.000 So, I apologize for no, I wholeheartedly agree.
01:02:37.000 Um, and it's like, don't be afraid to be authentic, man.
01:02:40.000 You maybe don't need to be an influencer, right?
01:02:42.000 But maybe you can use social media to boost your hobby that you love and it can transform your life, you know?
01:02:49.000 What we're talking about, what Ian to your point, you're more talking about, dude, their dream is being famous, yeah.
01:02:55.000 And that's a problem.
01:02:55.000 You gotta ask yourself, famous for what?
01:02:57.000 Why am I famous?
01:02:58.000 I learned this the hard way, yeah.
01:02:59.000 Beginning YouTube, I was like, how can I game the system?
01:03:01.000 I'll reply YouTube response, YouTube video responses to whatever is trending.
01:03:05.000 And it was just purely to get famous.
01:03:07.000 And the people that started following me were just fame whores.
01:03:09.000 No offense, guys, if you were one of my early subscribers, but like I got what I wanted, which was fame.
01:03:13.000 And I was like, what am I famous for?
01:03:16.000 And that's when I realized there's a reason I'm here.
01:03:19.000 And whether or not I'm famous almost is irrelevant.
01:03:21.000 Like the fame will amplify what you're doing, but what are you doing?
01:03:24.000 I got to be honest with you.
01:03:25.000 The answer to that question is psychedelic space gypsy.
01:03:30.000 It is terrifying and demoralizing that the economy is turning into I have to be an influencer because that just means it's impossible.
01:03:38.000 If, Every single person is manufacturing a toast.
01:03:42.000 Like every single person is selling necklaces.
01:03:45.000 Well, why would I buy from you?
01:03:46.000 I make my own.
01:03:47.000 Why would the guy down the street who's making videos talking politics buy or sell from someone who's doing identical stuff saying the exact same thing from them?
01:03:56.000 This is hyper saturation.
01:03:59.000 And, you know, part of it that's demoralizing is this is not a get rich quick scheme or a path to something sustainable.
01:04:09.000 If you have the ability to make a good product, make a good product.
01:04:12.000 And I hate using the word product like a McDonald's guy, but I'm not talking specifically about podcasts.
01:04:17.000 I'm saying whatever it is you make, if you can make a good one, do it.
01:04:20.000 But what's happened is that so many people have found success having shows.
01:04:24.000 They make money doing it and good money.
01:04:27.000 Everybody's now like, I want to.
01:04:28.000 You know what's really fascinating about this?
01:04:30.000 Is that in 2015, YouTube was dead.
01:04:34.000 For sure.
01:04:36.000 I'd been going to VidCon, I'd been talking to YouTubers who were big in 08, and they were like, the dream is over.
01:04:41.000 They're like, we used to get a million views per video and we were making 10 or $20,000 on one video.
01:04:47.000 Now we're only getting half a million.
01:04:49.000 We can't, it's hard to produce anymore.
01:04:51.000 And there are people saying, yeah, you can't really do it.
01:04:54.000 Today, everyone is adamant they're going to be the next big influencer and they're trying just to do that.
01:05:00.000 I think people need to build new things.
01:05:05.000 You know, you're not going to get rich.
01:05:07.000 Look, to this woman who's like, I'm a widow raising two kids, you are not going to be the widow influencer.
01:05:12.000 There is no widow influencer.
01:05:15.000 There is no 3 million follower every day crying because you're a widow.
01:05:19.000 It's a one off video.
01:05:21.000 So don't do it because if you do want to be someone that is respected or has an opinion that's worth listening to, it can't just be look at me crying, I'm a widow.
01:05:30.000 I think the currency that they're playing in, and yeah, I mean, I feel terrible for this woman, obviously, but like I think the currency that she's shooting for is dopamine hits for likes.
01:05:41.000 I mean, I don't even, for people like this, you know, I think it might be a kind of a different conversation of it's not going after maybe being famous, maybe it is.
01:05:50.000 Or it's not going after having a big page, but it's going after the attention.
01:05:55.000 I think so.
01:05:56.000 It's a non sustainable way to accrue attention because if you rely on crazy thing happened to me today for your videos to get the attention, it doesn't sustain.
01:06:06.000 After like a year and a half of that, you'll realize what a shell you've become seeking crazy things.
01:06:10.000 It's not good for you.
01:06:11.000 So you need to produce cool content in some way like ideas that you have, processes that you're building that you can show people, and then make videos to amplify what you're doing.
01:06:21.000 You gotta do cool shit, man.
01:06:23.000 You gotta pioneer education and entertainment and sectors of art.
01:06:27.000 Like, be the one that did it first.
01:06:29.000 Get embarrassed online in front of everyone.
01:06:32.000 You're memorable.
01:06:33.000 Also, make long form.
01:06:36.000 If you guys are gonna start making content, make long form.
01:06:38.000 It's so good for the.
01:06:40.000 If you are passionate about something, let's say cars or watches, which by the way, I will subscribe if you start that channel.
01:06:45.000 Like, that is good content.
01:06:46.000 People enjoy it and you can do your hobby and document it.
01:06:50.000 I fully encourage people doing that stuff.
01:06:52.000 If you love it, if you're doing it for the wrong reasons and trying to be famous, Or you're constantly crying on camera every single day, no bueno.
01:06:59.000 Also, if there's like a million people making a video and you want to make videos like that and you think you can and you know you're the best, you have to do it because if you don't, other people will take the space that are lesser than you.
01:07:10.000 You have to step up.
01:07:11.000 So, as diffused as it seems like it will get, you have to continue to prove them wrong.
01:07:16.000 You have to be a spire that appears in the muck and you can do it, but it's just, you know, don't do it for that reason.
01:07:24.000 That's just a byproduct of incessancy that, you know, you never give up.
01:07:28.000 You keep going.
01:07:28.000 You just.
01:07:29.000 Do it again.
01:07:30.000 Yeah, I think one of the challenges right now, and it's a lesson I learned a long time ago in the space, is obviously you're going to be entering a cesspit.
01:07:38.000 If you choose to engage on social media, it is going to just be a, I don't know, a mosh pit.
01:07:45.000 People are screaming, they're fighting all the time.
01:07:47.000 And this is kind of the point that I'm getting at that it's time to stop.
01:07:51.000 You know, I've been fairly like, screw you, I don't care what you think for a long time, but I'm just not going to engage largely anymore at all.
01:07:59.000 And I think if you take a look at, Well, I'll put it like this.
01:08:04.000 There's no reason to.
01:08:08.000 Let me put it like this instead.
01:08:08.000 Choose your battles.
01:08:10.000 We'll just say that.
01:08:12.000 The funny thing is, I've gained a lot of followers on X just being me and posting what I think when I feel like it, even if it pisses people off or is silly.
01:08:19.000 But at the same time, it's just.
01:08:22.000 I don't know if it's worth it.
01:08:24.000 It might be worth it just to.
01:08:27.000 I can look at it like, you know, Fox News personalities, not their politics, but in their production.
01:08:33.000 They don't engage with people at all.
01:08:36.000 They just stay away from it.
01:08:37.000 And for that, they get less death threats.
01:08:41.000 You know, when you choose to stand before someone and tell them, shut up, you're wrong, they are going to focus on you.
01:08:48.000 If you ignore all of these people and just do the work, well, they stop trying to bait you and stop fighting you because you're not giving them anything in return.
01:08:55.000 For a long time, I had no problem.
01:08:56.000 I was like, screw you.
01:08:57.000 I can do what I want.
01:08:58.000 I'll say what I want.
01:08:58.000 I talk to whoever I want.
01:08:59.000 I'll talk to people on X. You know, there are people who are like, if I had a big account, I'd never respond to people.
01:09:03.000 And I'm like, oh, I feel like talking to people I feel like talking to.
01:09:05.000 But I think at this point, it's just, it's bad.
01:09:08.000 I think it's bad because it's kind of like starve out the monsters.
01:09:15.000 People that thrive on just being nasty online just suffocate them.
01:09:19.000 What you feed is what reproduces.
01:09:21.000 And if you respond to negativity, you get more negative because people will see it and they'll be like, oh, he responds to negativity?
01:09:26.000 Well, I got one for him.
01:09:28.000 And like I said, this is a lesson we've all known about for a long time.
01:09:31.000 But I think at this point in my life, especially with the family, I'm like, yeah, just no more.
01:09:34.000 And I won't call anyone out specifically, but there are a lot of personalities that you know who host big shows who never, ever engage with their audience.
01:09:42.000 Now, I'm not saying don't do that.
01:09:43.000 Well, we're always going to have our Discord membership and our Super Chats and stuff.
01:09:46.000 But on other platforms, I'm just not commenting.
01:09:49.000 There's a value to negative communication because it's like threat detection.
01:09:52.000 People appreciate your willingness to confront the negative, the elephant in the room, but it's such a gauge where we have the opportunity to create positive momentum with AI, replicate a video game in two hours or make a movie in 15 minutes.
01:10:06.000 I think it's very healthy to step away or refocus away from the negative stuff for a time to create a lot of goodness in the world because it's just your word against theirs, man.
01:10:16.000 The machine is trying to outpace you and you've got to be better.
01:10:19.000 And you can and you will be.
01:10:20.000 That's the fascinating part.
01:10:22.000 Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.
01:10:24.000 Lindsey Clancy jurors detailed just what happened behind closed doors and how a not guilty verdict nearly came down.
01:10:32.000 Indeed.
01:10:33.000 Well, the Postmanial frames it as female Clancy jurors complain about very arrogant male holdout, were so excited to acquit child killer.
01:10:42.000 Let's play this video from NBC.
01:10:44.000 Lindsey Clancy feminist jurors are melting down.
01:10:47.000 All right, let's hear the meltdown.
01:10:49.000 was harder than her work as a fifth grade teacher and they confirmed there was one holdout juror i asked them what they thought of him being described by the prosecution as a rogue juror here's what they said
01:11:03.000 he was very arrogant he really did not take anything that anybody said the nurses he he tried to ask a question about the medications and we went back to the report From South Shore Hospital.
01:11:21.000 We had the toxicology report.
01:11:23.000 We could see exactly the amounts.
01:11:25.000 The nurses in the room spoke to that.
01:11:29.000 There were nurses on the jury.
01:11:31.000 Yes.
01:11:32.000 They spoke to that specific thing.
01:11:36.000 That was a question that he had.
01:11:38.000 And he just completely disregarded the information that they gave him.
01:11:43.000 I mean, he had reasonable doubt.
01:11:44.000 He admitted he had reasonable doubt after we watched that video of the interview.
01:11:49.000 I think that's when it was.
01:11:51.000 He admitted he had reasonable doubt.
01:11:53.000 And I started.
01:11:54.000 Filling out the forms.
01:11:55.000 I was so excited.
01:11:57.000 I actually, there were three forms I had to fill out, and I started filling them out.
01:12:02.000 I wrote my signature on each one, and then he said, But I'm still not going to say that she's not guilty by reason of insanity.
01:12:11.000 I'm not sure if rogue is the right word, Sue, but every one of us in the hours of a frustration would get up and walk the room because you just couldn't sit anymore.
01:12:23.000 And we'd all go to the car.
01:12:25.000 The exhibits.
01:12:27.000 He, I think, got up to the cart once, very briefly, and went back to his seat.
01:12:34.000 He would not interact with us and try to understand.
01:12:44.000 We read to him on numerous occasions the definition of reasonable doubt from Judge Sullivan's instruction.
01:12:52.000 He actually said one day in the end, Well, why don't we have the judge come in and read it again?
01:12:57.000 And we were like, No, we haven't.
01:12:59.000 In front of us.
01:13:02.000 We don't need that.
01:13:03.000 And we would highlight it.
01:13:04.000 And, you know, so and so, this is the definition of reason of doubt.
01:13:10.000 But he had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.
01:13:18.000 Dude, no way.
01:13:19.000 The hardest.
01:13:20.000 I'll say a couple things real quick.
01:13:21.000 I think there's a conflict that nurses were present, that there were nurses lobbying on her behalf is a problem.
01:13:30.000 This means information not material to the trial was present and influenced the jurors.
01:13:35.000 I understand it's an impossibility to not have people who might be subject matter experts on this, but something doesn't sit right about nurses on the jury saying outright.
01:13:44.000 Yes, for this reason, she's not guilty.
01:13:46.000 Trust us.
01:13:47.000 Because those jurors are not advocates or lawyers for the defense.
01:13:51.000 So I think there's a problem there.
01:13:53.000 And then also, this other woman said, I was so excited.
01:13:57.000 Why were you excited?
01:13:58.000 Because you were going to go home?
01:13:59.000 I think there's an issue there when a juror is like, oh boy, he's going to say not guilty.
01:14:03.000 Instead of just saying, okay, I understand your point of view.
01:14:06.000 We'll mark it and we'll tell the judge.
01:14:10.000 The moment the guy said, I'm not saying she's not guilty by reason of insanity, my response would be like, okay.
01:14:15.000 Shall we inform the judge and just let him know we're done and we're not going to deliberate any longer?
01:14:19.000 Because I got to be honest, we're not.
01:14:21.000 It's not changing.
01:14:23.000 And I'll tell you this too.
01:14:24.000 Have you guys ever seen the 12 Angry Men or whatever?
01:14:30.000 The one holdout who convinces all the other juries?
01:14:33.000 If I was in that room and that guy was like, and I was on, let's say I was on board part of the 11 to 1, and the one guy says, it's not going to happen.
01:14:40.000 I'm not changing my mind.
01:14:41.000 And they were like, you have to.
01:14:43.000 I would literally just go, okay, I've changed my mind.
01:14:45.000 It's 11, it's 10 to 2 now.
01:14:47.000 Guys, I'm not playing this game.
01:14:50.000 We're going to tell the judge right now, done, not unanimous, and there is no point continuing.
01:14:55.000 End of story, and we're going home.
01:14:56.000 This idea that they wanted to hold out for him is silly, in my opinion.
01:15:01.000 I mean, good for him.
01:15:03.000 Like, clearly to sit there and take the abuse of, you know, 11, nine angry women and two spineless men to just be like, nope, not doing it, sorry.
01:15:17.000 Good for him.
01:15:18.000 I can't imagine how.
01:15:21.000 You can, how these women could actually say, yes, she was not guilty by reason of insanity.
01:15:26.000 I mean, obviously, you know, they saw, you know, they saw the trial, they saw everything.
01:15:31.000 I didn't watch the whole trial.
01:15:34.000 But look, if you kill your kids and then your story is like, sometimes I heard voices, sometimes I didn't, and et cetera, et cetera.
01:15:44.000 And you see the slash marks that she made, which they were not.
01:15:49.000 I saw the pictures of the actual from after she got treated at the hospital.
01:15:54.000 She was not seriously trying to kill herself by, if you look at the cuts and stuff.
01:15:58.000 Right.
01:15:59.000 I don't know what it was that made these women think that she actually was insane, but I, good for him.
01:16:08.000 I think the guy's just sitting there being like, you know what?
01:16:10.000 You killed your three kids.
01:16:12.000 Yeah, sorry.
01:16:13.000 We're not doing this.
01:16:14.000 You're not going to like an insane asylum for what?
01:16:17.000 Four to six months and then getting out free.
01:16:19.000 That's the process there, right?
01:16:19.000 Yeah.
01:16:19.000 Yep.
01:16:20.000 So I think he was just like, no, sorry.
01:16:22.000 We're not doing that today.
01:16:24.000 That's not how this is working.
01:16:26.000 She's postpartum depression, obviously.
01:16:28.000 We talked about this on the Green Show a little bit.
01:16:29.000 Postpartum psychosis is what they were saying, where a woman, like, when she gives birth, her body is sapped of nutrients.
01:16:34.000 I mean, so much goes into the babies.
01:16:36.000 Bones start to get softer, just so much.
01:16:39.000 You need to eat the right foods coming out of, after a pregnancy, after a birth.
01:16:43.000 You have to eat the right foods, or you will fall into a deep depression called postpartum depression.
01:16:49.000 Isn't postpartum, like, the way I understand it is postpartum is only six months.
01:16:53.000 It's eight years old.
01:16:54.000 And the baby was actually eight months old.
01:16:56.000 Some people can go.
01:16:57.000 It really depends on how you heal your body after it happens, is how long it's going to go on for.
01:16:57.000 To a year.
01:17:01.000 And if you are lazy or ignorant and you don't know that you need to do that, that's not an excuse to commit a crime.
01:17:06.000 And if you chose, Lindsay, to get a bunch of psychedelics, pharmaceutical psychoactives because you were so depressed, because you had been malnourished, and then you ate those of your own free will and someone else didn't put them in your mouth and force it down your throat, you chose that lifestyle and you chose to kill the kids as a result.
01:17:23.000 That's on you.
01:17:24.000 And I see why that guy didn't want to set you free.
01:17:27.000 Yeah, you should have known better.
01:17:28.000 Yeah, he was not.
01:17:30.000 It's crazy because they tried to bludgeon him, I feel like, several times because they were hopelessly deadlocked.
01:17:36.000 They went to the judge and probably thought, like, yeah, he's going to listen to us.
01:17:38.000 We're deadlocked.
01:17:39.000 And the judge is like, no, go back in there and come out with a verdict.
01:17:42.000 And then they went back out, tried to do it again.
01:17:44.000 He's like, no, that's still not good enough.
01:17:47.000 Come back tomorrow and try again.
01:17:48.000 It's just wild.
01:17:49.000 It feels like a crazy sympathy play.
01:17:51.000 Like there were three women in this news article.
01:17:53.000 Where were the two guys that were saying, they're probably ashamed.
01:17:56.000 They don't want to show their faces.
01:17:58.000 This other guy obviously thinks he'll be a target if he shows his face.
01:18:01.000 But like, try it again with 12 men.
01:18:04.000 I think one of the big problems about the case, which I didn't follow it super closely, if I'm being honest.
01:18:10.000 But one of the big problems that I saw with the case was in.
01:18:15.000 I guess in that specific state, you have the burden of proof ends up going on the prosecution to prove it not insane, I guess.
01:18:25.000 And so that was something that was a little bit complicated.
01:18:27.000 But a lot of people will table that and just say, well, I don't care if it's insane or not.
01:18:31.000 You killed three kids.
01:18:32.000 You're done.
01:18:33.000 You're off the street.
01:18:34.000 You do not deserve to be back in polite society.
01:18:38.000 Crazy or not, I don't mind.
01:18:41.000 You killed three children.
01:18:42.000 Michael Malice has an opinion on the.
01:18:46.000 The insanity plea, which I actually like once he actually articulated, I was like, you know, that's a really great.
01:18:50.000 What was he saying?
01:18:51.000 He said that, uh, he's like, I don't understand why there is like not guilty because of insanity, right?
01:18:58.000 Like, if you're insane, it's not every all the more well.
01:19:01.000 But the point he was making is like, I don't, I don't know why that even exists because if you're insane, all the more reason to put you in jail, right?
01:19:08.000 Like, you shouldn't be given a more lenient sentence because you're insane.
01:19:15.000 That just means, okay, you don't.
01:19:18.000 Definitely shouldn't be in normal society, like in general society.
01:19:21.000 You should be isolated and put into either prison or I think that we should have, you know, asylums.
01:19:26.000 But like, you clearly can't function in a normal society if you're, if you're particularly, if you're separating you from normal society.
01:19:34.000 You don't even need to look at it as a punishment if you don't want to separate that person because what on earth are you doing risking having that person that was insane that killed three people back on the street?
01:19:43.000 You're trying to mitigate harm to the individual themselves.
01:19:46.000 Like, if you look deeply into the eyes of a retarded person and you see, That they're truly a human like everyone else, but they have whatever syndrome or issue.
01:19:53.000 You're looking deep in the eyes of me.
01:19:55.000 Yeah, you see the humanity in this person who you would consider, like, whatever, developmental handicapped, whatever the term is.
01:20:00.000 And then if they go and start killing neighborhood dogs, you don't want to throw them in a hardcore prison.
01:20:07.000 That's what I was saying.
01:20:08.000 That's what I was saying.
01:20:09.000 You don't even need to look at it as that.
01:20:11.000 There are facilities that you can put people away when they're too sick.
01:20:14.000 And maybe Lindsay belongs in one of those facilities.
01:20:16.000 I don't know if sticking her in general pop makes a lot of sense.
01:20:19.000 Well, yeah, the crime's pretty gnarly, so maybe it is.
01:20:19.000 I think that.
01:20:22.000 From my perspective.
01:20:24.000 This is, and this is just my opinion.
01:20:25.000 Like, it's better for the person that committed a crime to be removed from society for society's sake than to allow them to continue to be in society.
01:20:35.000 Of course.
01:20:36.000 I don't know what kind of prison or what kind of facility they need to be in.
01:20:41.000 That's, you know, someone else can decide that.
01:20:43.000 But if you're talking about someone that's violent, they shouldn't be allowed to just be like, oh, well, you know, you had, you know, whatever the argument is.
01:20:53.000 If you're a violent criminal, Take them out of society for the rest of society's sake, for the possible future victims of the person that's violent.
01:21:02.000 How many more times do we need to see some like psycho schizo, you know, homeless person waving around a knife and killing somebody?
01:21:11.000 How many times do you really need to see that before you say, okay, no, that person needs to be separated?
01:21:17.000 Yep.
01:21:17.000 You know, and a lot of those people are like serial criminals as well.
01:21:20.000 Yeah.
01:21:21.000 Yeah.
01:21:21.000 And that's the thing.
01:21:23.000 It's not about, for me, from my perspective at least, it's not about punishing the person that did the crime.
01:21:28.000 It's about protecting the rest of society, right?
01:21:30.000 Like we want to live in a safe society.
01:21:33.000 We want to live in a society where we can walk around in the streets.
01:21:36.000 Without fear of being, you know, assaulted or what have you.
01:21:39.000 So, those people that are violent criminals, take them off the streets, put them in jail, put them in some kind of facility.
01:21:47.000 That's what's best for society overall.
01:21:49.000 Do you have a preference or do you know enough about the trial to suggest Lindsay Clancy should go to either a prison or a mental institution?
01:21:57.000 I don't really care where she goes.
01:21:59.000 Jail.
01:22:00.000 Put her in jail is fine.
01:22:01.000 I don't care.
01:22:01.000 Either way, you'd be happy as long as she gets some sort of sentence, some sort of incarceration.
01:22:05.000 So, I would be.
01:22:06.000 They'd probably catapult.
01:22:07.000 Like, use a catapult and send that, use that as a mental institution.
01:22:10.000 Send her to jail via catapult.
01:22:12.000 Yeah, cabouche.
01:22:14.000 Yeah.
01:22:15.000 The thing is, it's possible that a not guilty by insanity results in life in a mental institution, but it's also the possibility that she gets out at any point.
01:22:21.000 She has a very strong argument for, oh, well, that was postpartum.
01:22:24.000 Exactly.
01:22:25.000 Well, I don't think that just was part of the trial.
01:22:27.000 I don't think they claimed postpartum.
01:22:28.000 Well, what I'm saying is, in the facility, it's like, well, that was due to.
01:22:33.000 No, She was out of the postpartum phase.
01:22:36.000 I don't think that's the argument they made.
01:22:38.000 Oh, okay.
01:22:39.000 So she couldn't argue I was postpartum because she wasn't.
01:22:42.000 She could argue I was temporarily insane at that time, but I'm not anymore.
01:22:46.000 I heard a lot of legal breakdowns of saying, hey, she could even be in a facility for six to eight months and get out.
01:22:54.000 This, I just heard about it.
01:22:55.000 Six months is the minimum.
01:22:56.000 I think this is the case just happened from Corey Walsh, a 40 year old mother from Frankfort, Illinois, charged with first degree murder, death of her two year old son, Barrett Walsh.
01:22:56.000 Six months to get out.
01:23:05.000 And they allege the prosecutors that she was very invested in Lindsey Clancy's trial.
01:23:10.000 So it's like a copycat.
01:23:11.000 It looks like it might be a copycat crime.
01:23:13.000 Like, oh, she can kill her kids and get out of it.
01:23:14.000 There's been a few of those since.
01:23:16.000 That's a big concern of why not to come down hard on Lindsey Clancy.
01:23:18.000 Yeah.
01:23:19.000 I agree.
01:23:20.000 Like, that's why, or that's one more reason why the punishment should fit the crime, right?
01:23:26.000 Like, if a woman has postpartum depression or what have you and has, you know, they come up with some excuse and they have a little episode or whatever and they end up killing their kids, or they might think if I do this, I'll get let off.
01:23:40.000 I know this is like a wrap up.
01:23:41.000 They don't put women in.
01:23:42.000 You know, they don't put women in jail or whatever it is.
01:23:44.000 It's a right wing take, but, you know, we want to de incentivize murdering your children.
01:23:44.000 Right.
01:23:49.000 Yeah.
01:23:50.000 That's so true.
01:23:52.000 But again, let's get political.
01:23:52.000 Right.
01:23:56.000 We got this from CNN Democrats enter the midterms looking to conquer red territory with Hunter Biden.
01:24:02.000 The United States says, Hunter Biden for president don't make me laugh.
01:24:06.000 It's hard to mention the Democratic Party making a bigger mistake than nominating Hunter Biden for a run.
01:24:10.000 And yet, Hunter himself is not floating the idea and, more entertainingly, is casting himself as some kind of reluctant savior.
01:24:16.000 Oh, boy.
01:24:17.000 We may have to reluctantly hand Hunter some credit here.
01:24:19.000 If there's one thing he knows about, it's addictions.
01:24:21.000 But wait, there's more.
01:24:22.000 Biden, a self described former crackhead who was convicted on federal gun and tax charges, said that his top qualification for becoming president is adhering to the rule of law.
01:24:31.000 Wait, wait.
01:24:32.000 We're talking about a presidential run?
01:24:33.000 Yeah.
01:24:34.000 Here's my qualification for becoming president.
01:24:36.000 If you believe in the Constitution of the United States of America that you swear to uphold and protect, I want the next president to commit to one thing to adhering to the rule of law, he said.
01:24:44.000 Okay.
01:24:45.000 I can't imagine they're actually.
01:24:47.000 Considering this guy for president.
01:24:51.000 But Newsome ain't doing all that well either.
01:24:54.000 And AOC is, she's still one of the top contenders in the prediction markets.
01:25:00.000 She's currently down just below John Asif, who's winning, but she's in second place.
01:25:06.000 So, who would you guys vote for, Hunter or AOC?
01:25:10.000 AOC.
01:25:11.000 I'd rather vote for Hunter.
01:25:12.000 I'm going Hunter all day.
01:25:13.000 Well, if I want to vote for Hunter.
01:25:14.000 Because he's a guy, because you're sexist, is that it?
01:25:16.000 Yes.
01:25:17.000 Yes.
01:25:18.000 At least it's not sexist.
01:25:19.000 I vote for Hunter.
01:25:20.000 I don't think Hunter has a chance in hell.
01:25:22.000 That guy, as soon as he gets put up against the real deal, he's going to just.
01:25:25.000 It's like a wooden board that just starts to crack along the fiber.
01:25:29.000 The fiber polls at this time are just like name recognition, like whoever's popular in the media, right?
01:25:33.000 Hunter Biden just hit.
01:25:34.000 Kind of a social media campaign, that tour that he was doing, right?
01:25:39.000 Is he selling books?
01:25:40.000 Why is he doing that?
01:25:40.000 I don't know.
01:25:41.000 All right, whatever.
01:25:41.000 Okay.
01:25:42.000 He wasn't able to talk before when his dad was in power, so it's his time now.
01:25:46.000 But, you know, since he's done that tour, that's probably why he's making an appearance, just because people, it's top of mind.
01:25:53.000 That's who people are thinking about.
01:25:54.000 He's been doing sort of a rehabilitation tour, what you're referencing over the last six months, four months out of nowhere.
01:26:00.000 And there was this weird, like, cult love, Hunter Biden, like, this weird anti hero energy.
01:26:05.000 People get where they're like, Oh, the Punisher, I love it.
01:26:07.000 I mean, it could be a bit of like a trolley kind of funny support for it, maybe.
01:26:12.000 Unless people are serious.
01:26:12.000 I don't know.
01:26:14.000 What?
01:26:14.000 Unless people are serious.
01:26:15.000 Some people were probably thinking they're supposed to like him, so they're doing it for real.
01:26:18.000 Other people, like, just laughing their balls off in secret, but being like, Yeah, Hunter, glad you're on the forefront.
01:26:23.000 Because, look, look, if this is legitimately thinking about running Biden's ex, his crackhead son that was on the board of Burisma selling out our country to the liberal economic order, like, good luck, guys.
01:26:32.000 Good.
01:26:33.000 He said, He may have to run for president.
01:26:36.000 In 2028, during an interview with John Katz and Matitis on his WABC Cats Roundtable radio show on Sunday, I'd like to see him debate JD Vance because it will give Vance a bunch of fuel.
01:26:49.000 You know, it's just, what's the right word for it?
01:26:53.000 It's too corrupted at this point.
01:26:54.000 Everything, in my opinion, is just too corrupted.
01:26:58.000 Like the idea of actually having a Hunter Biden candidate.
01:27:02.000 Like, listen, listen, Trump was a deviation from decorum as it was.
01:27:06.000 But.
01:27:08.000 The Clintons, the Obama administration were so miserable in so many different areas that, as much as I mean, a lot of people just couldn't stomach Trump at all.
01:27:17.000 I used to frame it as the great example of me being in the Uber, and I think I was in Houston going to Glenn Black's show.
01:27:24.000 And the driver was like, man, it's like, I wish Trump wouldn't talk the way he does, but I voted for him.
01:27:29.000 And I'm like, I hear that a lot from people that Trump just kind of, you know, why does he got to be like that?
01:27:35.000 But he's clearly better.
01:27:37.000 That was already a deviation from the decorum.
01:27:39.000 Throwing Hunter Biden, and it's just like, I'm at the point where it's just, okay, it feels like riding the atomic bomb down with the cowboy hat.
01:27:46.000 Yeah, I mean, what else do you hear people say, though?
01:27:50.000 They say that Trump is that businessman, right?
01:27:52.000 So they'll say, oh, personality, I don't know, but oh, he is a businessman.
01:27:56.000 He's tough.
01:27:57.000 Dude, he's that tough, great New York City businessman that's been famous for decades, right?
01:28:03.000 So this is a lot different than a lot of the people that the Democrats have been propping up over the last five to 10 years.
01:28:09.000 I mean, dude, you look in Congress, there's communists in Congress.
01:28:13.000 That have achieved literally nothing.
01:28:15.000 You have, or socialists if you want to be precise, but you have Mamdani.
01:28:21.000 You know, it's just another example of that.
01:28:23.000 Like they're addicted to propping up mediocre figures as long as they, hey, can smile, maybe are charismatic and hold Marxist views.
01:28:35.000 They don't need to accomplish literally anything.
01:28:37.000 And that's what sold the American people on Trump.
01:28:40.000 It was a big selling point, man.
01:28:41.000 Exactly.
01:28:42.000 He'd be obnoxious, but he is a billionaire and a serial entrepreneur.
01:28:46.000 And tough as nails.
01:28:49.000 He knew how to come with an action plan, build the wall.
01:28:51.000 That was his action plan, which is something.
01:28:53.000 Which, by the way, is being built and fully funded right now, just to let everybody know.
01:28:56.000 And like other people, their action plan is the current status quo is bad.
01:29:00.000 Like, no action plan, basically, just complaining about the old action plan.
01:29:02.000 If you come with, like, we're going to build a space elevator and here's how we're going to do it, you'll get a lot of people getting behind you.
01:29:08.000 If you have a vision of some sort of better future, that's what you got to sell the people.
01:29:12.000 I can't imagine the communists have any version of a better future.
01:29:16.000 Or if they have a plan, they might say, like, no, when we're all together, we can do this together.
01:29:20.000 We the people.
01:29:21.000 That's not a plan.
01:29:22.000 That's hyperbole or rhetoric.
01:29:24.000 The craziest thing is, I've been doing a lot of DSA street conversations over the last couple weeks.
01:29:30.000 We've been hitting that hard, and we'll go over like the DSA platform.
01:29:33.000 You know, that co chair did that famous Fox News rundown of their platform, and you'll get people that say, like, it's a lot of feel good stuff.
01:29:41.000 And they also think, with socialism, they think that it is more like equal, equally spread out and not like the power doesn't centralize, bro.
01:29:51.000 That is literally exactly what the power ends up doing.
01:29:53.000 So they say, a lot of these people that you'll talk to on the street, they think it's like capitalism is completely centralized and that's all it is, and nobody has money.
01:30:01.000 It's like, Well, dude, what you're advocating for is literally like five people at the very top having literally everything and picking and choosing where it all goes.
01:30:09.000 It's called vanguardism.
01:30:11.000 Both the Soviet Union devolved into, they promised communism and end up with a vanguard where a small group of people oversee and control the military and then the entire economy.
01:30:18.000 And the Chinese happened the same way.
01:30:20.000 They said, we're going to give you a republic, the People's Republic of China.
01:30:22.000 And then they get into power.
01:30:24.000 They lie to you with the communist carrot and then they give you the stick of basically a small junta, a military council running the show.
01:30:33.000 So it's happened twice.
01:30:34.000 The Soviet Union and China.
01:30:35.000 I see no evidence that a communist in promise revolution could ever lead to anything other than a dictocracy where you've got, you know, one plus guy.
01:30:44.000 Stalin.
01:30:45.000 I mean, look at it.
01:30:45.000 The market doesn't drive what's in the grocery stores.
01:30:47.000 Like, they pick and choose what goes where, right?
01:30:51.000 Because it all has to be equal, right?
01:30:52.000 So the market doesn't drive that.
01:30:54.000 You drive it.
01:30:55.000 You decide what it's worth.
01:30:55.000 It's worse than that because they have central planners that will say, this is how much wheat we need, because this is how much flour we need, because this is how many loaves of bread we need.
01:31:04.000 And so.
01:31:05.000 Like, there's no correction system at all, right?
01:31:09.000 Like, they say we need to produce this much wheat.
01:31:12.000 There's no market for wheat.
01:31:13.000 So, if they produce that much wheat, then the bread that you're going to get is as much as the wheat can produce.
01:31:19.000 There's no like, oh, we're running low on flour.
01:31:22.000 So, we need to buy wheat from someone who's got wheat to sell.
01:31:25.000 No one has wheat to sell because all the wheat was produced.
01:31:28.000 So, and that happens throughout basically every single food product that you can come up with.
01:31:34.000 That's a big part of the reason why socialist societies always have issues stocking the grocery shelves.
01:31:41.000 I think it was Gorbachev that came over to the United States when Reagan was president.
01:31:45.000 And he went to a grocery store in, you know, just some random grocery store in Texas.
01:31:50.000 And he said, the Russian people would cry if they saw what America.
01:31:55.000 I thought he said they revolt.
01:31:56.000 Did he say revolt?
01:31:57.000 It's possible.
01:31:59.000 I could be misremembering.
01:32:00.000 He was shocked.
01:32:00.000 But he was shocked at how much variety there was.
01:32:04.000 And you get people like Bernie Sanders saying, oh, well, you don't need 10 different kinds of paste.
01:32:07.000 He said, if they saw the U.S. supermarkets, there would be a revolution.
01:32:10.000 Yeah.
01:32:11.000 19's been wrong.
01:32:12.000 Revolution shortly after that.
01:32:13.000 Well, you know.
01:32:16.000 But, like, you know, Bernie Sanders here says, hey, we don't need to have 15 different kinds of toothpaste.
01:32:22.000 Well, how do you know, Bernie?
01:32:24.000 Like, where the hell do you get off saying we don't, what people need?
01:32:28.000 You're right.
01:32:28.000 Because if the market.
01:32:29.000 If they don't need it, they're not going to buy it, and the market will stock less of it.
01:32:32.000 Exactly.
01:32:34.000 If there is a market for it and people are purchasing it, that means that actually, yeah, people find value in these different kinds of toothpaste.
01:32:41.000 There's also privateers that will make.
01:32:44.000 Unnecessary market surplus just in case for that rainy day that a central planner will never see coming.
01:32:51.000 And so when they run out of food, you're like, actually, somebody does have it because this one private company decided to go rogue and develop 10 times more than it needed.
01:33:00.000 The central, it's just having many, many planners is way better for an economy than having one.
01:33:05.000 Well, they also lied about the quotas that they were meeting enough because they didn't want to get in trouble, which led to like massive famine and them actually not having enough.
01:33:14.000 So it's not accurate at all.
01:33:16.000 They were afraid that if they admitted not meeting quotas, they'd be killed.
01:33:19.000 So they were pretending that they were meeting quotas.
01:33:21.000 Exactly.
01:33:22.000 Well, and even if it wasn't, I'm sure there were plenty of people that were killed, but even if it wasn't, you know, Being killed, you'd lose your position.
01:33:29.000 And if you had a nice, cushy position in the bureaucracy and your family has a nice apartment that's probably not nice by United States standards, but in the Soviet Union, you had a nice apartment, you'll lose that stuff if you don't get fired from your family.
01:33:41.000 Then you have to go and be knocked out of everybody else.
01:33:44.000 That's why they would lie.
01:33:45.000 That's why they would do the lying because they didn't want to lose their position.
01:33:48.000 The Hunter Biden thing is really crazy because I feel like this is a strange psychological phenomenon of villain worship.
01:33:54.000 Not that he's the only, he's like Punisher.
01:33:56.000 An anti hero that has done so much wrong, but also now is seen as, you know, there's good in him still, which is true.
01:34:04.000 He's not an evil villain.
01:34:05.000 He's just done a lot of weird.
01:34:06.000 Who's that?
01:34:07.000 Hunter Biden.
01:34:07.000 Oh, Hunter Biden.
01:34:08.000 His complicity with Joe Biden, with Burisma.
01:34:11.000 I think they did a lot of business with our adversaries and got wealthy doing that business.
01:34:17.000 And that was another shy state.
01:34:19.000 Who exactly?
01:34:20.000 China dealings.
01:34:22.000 Yeah, he's definitely been a willing pawn of the liberal economic order to cement.
01:34:27.000 International economic relations between the Chinese, the Ukrainians, the Americans.
01:34:31.000 So he's going to have to answer for that and he will and he is.
01:34:34.000 But still, just because he's out now kind of spilling the beans, hey, that's cool.
01:34:39.000 I want to get on your good side, Hunter, because I want you to tell all.
01:34:42.000 Maybe you want to wait till the big guy's out of the picture until you do it.
01:34:45.000 But Joe, you know, I'm talking about your father still being alive and tarnishing his living legacy.
01:34:49.000 But at some point, if you really want an alliance of true Americans, you're going to have to be completely transparent with what you've experienced.
01:34:58.000 Until then, dude, he's just a mouthpiece.
01:35:02.000 I'm happy to see him get propped up because he'll get shredded down diplomatically on the stage.
01:35:08.000 And Bernie Sanders isn't going to give JD Vance enough of a run for his money.
01:35:11.000 He's too old.
01:35:12.000 He's trying to slow down AI development.
01:35:13.000 Bernie Sanders, I don't think he's talked about running, but yeah, he and AOC both submitted a bill that is an AI moratorium for not just the United States.
01:35:22.000 They're trying to get other countries, China, to actually have a moratorium on AI development.
01:35:28.000 And that would be like trying to get them to stop.
01:35:30.000 Building the nuclear bomb right before World War II and asking the Germans not to build it and then promising you that they won't.
01:35:37.000 Anybody with a brain understands that the only place that would actually slow down on the development would be the West and then everyone else would continue building at full speed.
01:35:46.000 When you say West, you mean the United States because there's no significant AI companies that are doing anything in Europe.
01:35:53.000 They're all American companies.
01:35:54.000 Yeah, it's very strange that you want to slow that down.
01:35:57.000 I know there's downsides to unleashing AI, but.
01:36:00.000 It's better to have it happen here than elsewhere.
01:36:02.000 It's not really that strange because he's like, he's anti the things that AI promises are all things that Bernie Sanders is against.
01:36:09.000 Like the idea of AI taking people's jobs.
01:36:12.000 So Bernie Sanders is like, no, we shouldn't have AI because we'll think of all the jobs we'll lose.
01:36:17.000 You know, he's just, he's against people having control.
01:36:23.000 Like, so he doesn't want people to have their own AI.
01:36:25.000 He doesn't want people to have access to that kind of stuff.
01:36:27.000 It's actually pretty in line with Bernie Sanders' kind of worldview, right?
01:36:31.000 Like, if you're a socialist that thinks that, The government should control things for people and it should be a top down society.
01:36:37.000 Having private companies developing these super intelligent AIs is something that you'd be against.
01:36:42.000 Yeah, it could lead towards intense corporatocracy where, like, open AI becomes one of the most powerful governments on the planet with a standing military and command of, like, robots.
01:36:52.000 I sympathize with that.
01:36:53.000 But, like, I mean, you do not want to not beat your adversaries on the development of the most advanced AI on the planet.
01:37:00.000 Let's, speaking of communism and all that stuff, let's talk about this from Newsweek.
01:37:04.000 Trump plan to pay parents $9,000 to stay home with kids divides Republicans.
01:37:09.000 It's not $9,000 to stay home with kids, it's $9,000 per kid.
01:37:12.000 Currently, there exists a welfare program that will grant $9,000 to working parents.
01:37:17.000 That way, they can pay for childcare.
01:37:19.000 The Trump admin said, How about we reverse this?
01:37:21.000 If you stay at home with the kid, you get the $9,000.
01:37:24.000 That way, you can pay your bills and pay yourself to raise your kid.
01:37:28.000 The current system, as has been put in place over the past several decades, incentivizes, whether accidentally or on purpose, mothers and fathers to leave their kids with other people at schools or daycares instead of staying home with them.
01:37:40.000 Now, this is divided Republicans.
01:37:41.000 Dana Lash said this is welfare.
01:37:44.000 Likened it to socialism, for which Michael Knowles rebutted, saying, I don't recall where in Das Kapital.
01:37:50.000 Marx advocated for seizing welfare programs to incentivize homemaking.
01:37:55.000 But this has resulted in a big debate.
01:37:57.000 Now, I hate the Republicans, whatever.
01:38:00.000 I'm for it.
01:38:01.000 It's an existing welfare program that I think is largely bad.
01:38:04.000 They're not getting rid of it.
01:38:05.000 They're just saying, no, you've got to be home with your kids and you'll get this grant.
01:38:09.000 I think it's, I wouldn't implement this from scratch.
01:38:12.000 If we didn't have any welfare programs, I wouldn't say create this.
01:38:15.000 But considering it reallocates from an existing welfare program that incentivizes parents leaving their kids with somebody else, I think it's a good thing.
01:38:22.000 You got it.
01:38:22.000 What do you guys say?
01:38:23.000 The Republicans need to be giving something to the American people for their votes because whether we like it or not, the argument of pull yourself up by your bootstraps, young man, that ain't going to fly.
01:38:37.000 It's just not going to fly.
01:38:39.000 And I find myself actually appreciating that argument.
01:38:42.000 I used to talk crap on that argument, but I actually kind of appreciate that one.
01:38:45.000 But I agree with what you're saying wholeheartedly, honestly.
01:38:48.000 Yeah.
01:38:48.000 I mean, look, if your option is, look, man, go out there and work hard and do it by yourself and you'll get the, you know, blah, blah, blah, and it's going to make a man out of you.
01:38:56.000 Or, hey, we're going to give you all this free shit.
01:38:59.000 Like, people are going to be like, hey, I'll vote for the people that are going to give me the free shit.
01:39:03.000 That's just the way people are.
01:39:05.000 They're incentive driven, definitely, when it comes, at least in modern society.
01:39:09.000 50, 100 years ago, I get it, right?
01:39:11.000 Fine.
01:39:12.000 Before the welfare programs in the 60s, fine.
01:39:15.000 I totally understand.
01:39:16.000 And, I like the idea of people being motivated to go out and do things and, and, you know, work hard to make something of yourself.
01:39:25.000 But there is a lot of validity to the argument that, hey, look, the people that are going to go out there and work hard and do something, they're going to do it whether you tell them to or not.
01:39:35.000 Yeah.
01:39:35.000 As long as you don't make it physically impossible, which a lot of these countries are right now.
01:39:40.000 Across the West, like all over Europe, they make it practically impossible for you to start your own business and pay employees and, you know, Innovate.
01:39:48.000 And it's not like random why the United States became this just juggernaut of innovation over the last 150 years.
01:39:57.000 It's because, dude, you came over here, you weren't hopping on welfare.
01:40:00.000 You weren't allowed to even come here if you're hopping on any public dole.
01:40:03.000 We encouraged entrepreneurs to come here and create.
01:40:06.000 And so I think that still needs to be an important conversation to encourage American greatness.
01:40:14.000 But as for transforming an existing I don't know.
01:40:19.000 I would probably have to sit on this one a little bit, but I think just hearing it right now, I wouldn't have, I agree with Tim.
01:40:25.000 I wouldn't have a problem with so much transforming it to encourage people to stay home.
01:40:29.000 I think that childcare is incredibly unusual to me.
01:40:33.000 I will talk, I'll have conversations with people.
01:40:35.000 And look, I don't have kids.
01:40:36.000 So, but I will talk to people that will say, oh, well, I work so hard.
01:40:41.000 And, or, you know, I was talking to a wife one time, her husband works and she works.
01:40:47.000 And she said that her kid went to, did childcare 11 hours a day.
01:40:54.000 And I'm like, at that point, like, what are you, what are you going to raise the kid?
01:40:59.000 Because, I mean, that's, you know, that's obviously important.
01:41:02.000 But also, how much are you spending on that too?
01:41:05.000 You know, so I don't have a problem with creating incentives to keep people home with their children to raise their kids.
01:41:12.000 I mean, and I think culturally we need to kind of get back to that as well.
01:41:16.000 The fact that this woman is doing 11 hours of childcare per day and like people aren't kind of raising questions about that blows my mind.
01:41:22.000 Yeah.
01:41:22.000 Like I said, I don't like it, but I like it more than Democrats winning because Democrats will do.
01:41:29.000 Well, Democrats are going to do that and more if you if Democrats the border and flood it again, the country again.
01:41:33.000 Yeah.
01:41:34.000 Absolutely.
01:41:34.000 Absolutely.
01:41:35.000 And that is the biggest problem that the United States. Faces now is the number of people that the Biden administration allowed in, right?
01:41:44.000 We need to deport a lot of people.
01:41:45.000 We need to incentivize Americans to have kids, right?
01:41:49.000 To have families.
01:41:51.000 And you're not going to get people to do that by just saying, well, look, man, I know it's going to be hard, but pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
01:41:58.000 You just, it's just not like I don't like it.
01:42:01.000 I don't, you know, but you've got a situation that just sucks.
01:42:06.000 And so how do you fix it?
01:42:09.000 I don't have a better option than saying, look, You know, this is the game.
01:42:12.000 You got to play it.
01:42:14.000 You know, do you know what this program is that they're re diverting funds from?
01:42:19.000 Did you pick that up at all, Tim, earlier when you were?
01:42:21.000 Yeah, he said it was.
01:42:22.000 It's the existing program.
01:42:23.000 So the program right now pays $9,000 per kid for you to be at work.
01:42:27.000 So if a mom and a dad have a kid and the mom says, I'm going to get a job, they go, Okay, we're going to give you money for that, which creates a perverse incentive.
01:42:34.000 It separates parents from their kids, strengthens the institutionalized learning facilities and these childcare scams, to be completely honest.
01:42:43.000 And the bureaucracy, the education bureaucracy loves it because they get that money at the end of the day, right?
01:42:48.000 It all goes into the bureaucracy somehow.
01:42:52.000 I look at this kind of like do you spend a boatload of money on your kids that are failing to try to get them to the average level?
01:43:01.000 Or do you spend money on the kids that are excelling so that way the kids that are excelling can really excel?
01:43:06.000 Because who's going to do more for society, right?
01:43:10.000 I think that it's a better option to say the kids that are excelling, we're going to spend money here.
01:43:15.000 We're going to throw good money.
01:43:17.000 After the kids, as opposed to throwing bad money at the kids that are struggling.
01:43:22.000 I had two answers for your question.
01:43:23.000 If it was I to pick a kid or a small group of people, I would have picked the bright kids and fund them to do better.
01:43:29.000 But if I was like a city planner, I'd have to do both to make sure that the kids that were struggling don't get left behind because they'll form gangs and then mess up my city.
01:43:37.000 So you kind of have to bring them in and slow down.
01:43:41.000 If they're the kind of person that's going to get into gangs and going to be the kind of criminal element or whatever you want to call it.
01:43:51.000 They're not gonna, you're not gonna be able to educate them by throwing money at it.
01:43:55.000 Like, you're just not.
01:43:57.000 The way that, if you look at what happens when you have bad kids in classroom, like two bad kids can ruin a whole classroom.
01:44:04.000 Yep.
01:44:05.000 And that holds back all the normal kids and the ones that excel.
01:44:09.000 And it doesn't take a classroom full of bad kids, it takes a handful of them to be like, you know, like if you got a classroom with, I don't know, 25 kids or how many are in a classroom nowadays, you get two or three bad ones.
01:44:22.000 And that means the rest of the class suffers.
01:44:24.000 Get those kids out of there.
01:44:25.000 It's the same kind of idea as if you've got violent people in society, get them out of society.
01:44:31.000 This is for the people that are trying.
01:44:33.000 This is for the people that are doing well.
01:44:35.000 Get the bad ones out.
01:44:37.000 Is this an idea that they're just floating?
01:44:38.000 Did anyone?
01:44:39.000 Because I didn't get a chance to review.
01:44:40.000 They're floating it.
01:44:42.000 It's just floating it.
01:44:42.000 Okay.
01:44:43.000 It's a plan, which means who knows?
01:44:46.000 All right.
01:44:46.000 Okay.
01:44:47.000 Interesting concept.
01:44:48.000 I think unemployment also should be inverted.
01:44:51.000 You shouldn't get paid to have no job.
01:44:55.000 You should get paid a little bit extra if you have a job.
01:44:58.000 I think there's a lot of people that use these programs genuinely.
01:45:02.000 And there's also a lot of people that use these programs nonstop for years.
01:45:07.000 And so it's like, you know, I think as a developed country in the world's superpower, I would like to see us have, you know, at least some safety net for people that, hey, life hits you hard, man.
01:45:19.000 And sometimes people need that.
01:45:21.000 And there's a lot of stories, and I'm sure a lot of people that are actually watching this right now that maybe they grew up like that and they actually needed those programs and the family worked really hard and they eventually got off that.
01:45:32.000 And that's a great thing.
01:45:33.000 And I think we should have programs like that.
01:45:34.000 The problem is we have people that, Are just perpetually on welfare for their entire lives and their kids' lives.
01:45:40.000 They'll get unemployment and then they'll intentionally not get a job or they'll pretend like they're trying to get a job to keep getting unemployment.
01:45:46.000 It's not just unemployment, man.
01:45:47.000 They'll be on everything, anything.
01:45:49.000 We'll be on all of it.
01:45:49.000 We could.
01:45:50.000 But in your way, everything.
01:45:51.000 The safety net, true.
01:45:52.000 Food stamps you lose if you get a job.
01:45:52.000 Yeah.
01:45:54.000 Sometimes it's crazy.
01:45:55.000 So, like, if we could incentivize people to maybe you get a little bit of money if you're unemployed or you need food stamps, but if you get a job, you're going to get three times that in government assistance while you get back on your feet.
01:46:05.000 That's the UBI idea, and it doesn't work.
01:46:07.000 It'd have to be a limited amount of time, and then people would try and game that.
01:46:11.000 They'd get fired, they'd collect unemployment, then they'd get the job to try and get the job.
01:46:13.000 It's not that.
01:46:14.000 It's just communism.
01:46:15.000 That's the idea for a lot of these communist systems we'll guarantee you a certain degree, but you can work for more.
01:46:15.000 It doesn't work.
01:46:22.000 So, like in the Soviet Union, they had money.
01:46:23.000 In communist China, they had money, but they had rations too.
01:46:26.000 So poor people were guaranteed.
01:46:28.000 It just doesn't work.
01:46:29.000 You mean like unemployment is inevitably communist?
01:46:31.000 No.
01:46:32.000 Some of it's okay.
01:46:32.000 That's not what I'm talking about.
01:46:33.000 Unemployment?
01:46:34.000 I'm saying a universal basic income.
01:46:36.000 Well, to go from unemployment to I'm going to get a job and still not lose all my unemployment.
01:46:41.000 Unemployment is I pay a tax that covers unemployment insurance, as does my employer.
01:46:45.000 And then if I lose my job through no fault of my own, I am not left destitute, which would be bad for the economy.
01:46:52.000 A mixed economy, I think, is fine.
01:46:54.000 Some programs are okay.
01:46:55.000 I'm fine with this program.
01:46:56.000 I'm fine with unemployment.
01:46:58.000 The issue is when you do a universal guarantee, people go, look, if I work 40 hours, I'll be able to eventually save up and get that nice car.
01:47:07.000 If I don't work at all, I can do whatever I want, whatever I want, and at least the bus is there.
01:47:12.000 So people just eventually stop working.
01:47:16.000 Yeah, that's the problem.
01:47:17.000 And then they get paid unemployment if they've lost their job through no fault of their own.
01:47:20.000 They can just sit there and suck off the tit of the camera.
01:47:23.000 Yeah, for three months.
01:47:24.000 Yeah, for like, no, a year and a half sometimes, 900 bucks a week, crazy amounts of money.
01:47:28.000 I don't know what the maximum is right now of unemployment checks and how long it can last.
01:47:32.000 Obama extended the contract.
01:47:34.000 He did, but that's still a completely different thing we're not talking about.
01:47:37.000 Well, I'm concerned about people staying on benefits.
01:47:39.000 If we're talking about people collecting $9,000 to sit at home with the kids, the use of the system is bad.
01:47:46.000 Universal basic income is universal abuse of the system.
01:47:49.000 That's the distinction.
01:47:50.000 Yeah.
01:47:51.000 So if they were to get a job and to make more than their unemployment for a short period of time, it wouldn't be a guaranteed universal setup.
01:47:58.000 It would just be a way to make more.
01:47:59.000 I mean, I was making $35,000 a year, lost my job, filed for unemployment, and I was getting paid like $70 a week.
01:48:06.000 I was getting $90.
01:48:06.000 It's not sustainable.
01:48:08.000 Oh, man.
01:48:08.000 You were in California, I bet.
01:48:09.000 Yeah.
01:48:10.000 Yeah.
01:48:10.000 See, California is communist.
01:48:11.000 It was a lot of money.
01:48:12.000 So why would anyone want to work?
01:48:14.000 That's insane.
01:48:14.000 I sent a year not having to work.
01:48:16.000 It was crazy.
01:48:17.000 And they were like, you know, I don't even think you had to look for a job.
01:48:19.000 I was like looking for a job.
01:48:21.000 I'm like, it was the most miserable.
01:48:23.000 Illinois wasn't like that.
01:48:24.000 What's that?
01:48:25.000 Illinois wasn't like that.
01:48:26.000 And I don't think anybody should be like that because I was incentivized to not get a job.
01:48:29.000 I had a job opportunity where I would have made less than $9.50 a week getting a job.
01:48:32.000 No, no, no.
01:48:33.000 There's a distinction there.
01:48:33.000 Hold on.
01:48:36.000 The unemployment system will tell you explicitly not to take a job that pays less.
01:48:40.000 They said don't take it.
01:48:41.000 Because it's bad for the economy.
01:48:42.000 Because what happens is a guy will make $60,000 a year.
01:48:45.000 He'll get laid off because the company goes bankrupt or something.
01:48:47.000 He'll go to unemployment.
01:48:48.000 And then they'll say, well, I found a job, but it's going to pay me 40%.
01:48:52.000 They go, stop.
01:48:53.000 That's going to perpetuate unemployment.
01:48:56.000 So wait until you can find a comparable job or when you have no choice.
01:49:00.000 That's what they told me.
01:49:02.000 It's like, don't take a job that makes less than a certain amount.
01:49:04.000 It's like, bro, there are plenty of jobs where I'll make less than my unemployment check taking 40 hours a week.
01:49:09.000 I'm doing zero hours a week.
01:49:11.000 Government doesn't understand what a job would pay.
01:49:11.000 Right.
01:49:13.000 But you understand why that's correct, right?
01:49:15.000 Why it's correct or corrupt?
01:49:16.000 Correct.
01:49:17.000 It was the correct way to do it.
01:49:19.000 Because a guy who's got three kids who needs 900 bucks a week to feed his family, taking a job that pays less than he was getting before.
01:49:26.000 It might have been 950 every two weeks for the record.
01:49:27.000 I don't remember what the maximum is.
01:49:29.000 If a guy is told he's going to get 600 bucks a week in unemployment.
01:49:32.000 Because it's based on 67% of what his salary was.
01:49:35.000 And he says this is a struggle.
01:49:37.000 They will say, don't take a lesser paying job because then you and your kids will be homeless, which will create a bigger problem.
01:49:42.000 What they should have done is let me get the lesser paying job and augmented that with a little bit less than what I had been making with unemployment, but still something.
01:49:50.000 And rather than just cutting me off as soon as I get a gig.
01:49:52.000 I think there's a fair argument to make that they could say, take the job and we'll pay the difference for a certain amount of time.
01:49:57.000 Or the difference plus 10% or some realistic argument.
01:49:59.000 The problem there is what are they saying?
01:50:01.000 That in three months, when this difference expires, you quit that job?
01:50:05.000 That doesn't make sense.
01:50:06.000 And so, unemployment makes sense in that we pay taxes for the purpose of unemployment insurance.
01:50:06.000 Tough gift.
01:50:11.000 Both we and the employers pay that.
01:50:12.000 You know, the crazy thing when people collect an unemployment check, they have to pay taxes on that like it's income.
01:50:16.000 Correct.
01:50:18.000 It's insurance they've already paid.
01:50:19.000 And then they get their insurance claim and they have to treat it like income.
01:50:23.000 Yeah, I don't agree with that.
01:50:24.000 It should be.
01:50:25.000 But I do agree with disability and unemployment insurance.
01:50:28.000 The problem is so, what I will say is these programs are beautiful, perfect in every single way.
01:50:33.000 The problem is your society.
01:50:35.000 A hard working class.
01:50:37.000 American society that believes in honor and integrity doesn't want to be on unemployment.
01:50:41.000 They're embarrassed to say they are.
01:50:43.000 They're embarrassed to say they're getting EBT.
01:50:45.000 So they take it when they need it.
01:50:46.000 They pay into it, but they try to get off it as fast as possible because they don't want to be embarrassed.
01:50:50.000 But you get people who don't care about our way of life, who don't have honor and integrity, and they will exploit that perpetually.
01:50:57.000 And that's the problem.
01:50:59.000 So again, if everybody in the country had an identical moral worldview to Seamus Coughlin, no one would complain about unemployment welfare because They would try as hard as they could not to be on it and they wouldn't exploit it.
01:51:15.000 But then you bring in people from Haiti who don't care, or people from Somalia who explicitly have said, These are the rules you put before us.
01:51:25.000 We are simply following them.
01:51:27.000 But there's an honor system.
01:51:28.000 Well, they're like, But you told us we could just walk out of the store with the food.
01:51:31.000 Yes, but you're not supposed to, but I can.
01:51:34.000 Yeah, okay, then I will.
01:51:35.000 No honor among thieves.
01:51:36.000 Over 25% of Philadelphia's population, and there's some places that are even higher than this, is on food stamps.
01:51:45.000 I mean, the abuse in some of these programs, and I'm just talking about welfare just in general here, not unemployment, of course.
01:51:50.000 Welfare in general is, I mean, it's got to be, there's probably 100 times the amount of people that are on these programs that should even be on them.
01:51:58.000 Yeah.
01:51:58.000 You know, like everyone, all these people are abusing it.
01:52:01.000 26% of Philadelphia's entire population, or I think it's like maybe Baltimore or somewhere, has like 40% on food stamps.
01:52:08.000 I mean, these programs are way out of control.
01:52:11.000 And again, we got to go to callers, but I just want a final thought on this.
01:52:14.000 It's not the program.
01:52:15.000 It's not the police.
01:52:16.000 It's your society.
01:52:17.000 It's your culture.
01:52:18.000 For sure.
01:52:18.000 For sure.
01:52:19.000 And I want to talk a lot about this in the uncensored portion of the show because it's going to get edgy, as it were.
01:52:24.000 It's going to be at rumble.com slash timcast IRL.
01:52:26.000 But we're going to talk about taboo subjects related to demographic shifts in the United States.
01:52:31.000 I want to talk about my neighborhood and some positives, some negatives, but also what does it mean for your home to be your home?
01:52:40.000 And is it racist for people of varying ethnicities to want to live around each other?
01:52:46.000 Like for Latinos, for Asians, for black people, for white people, what does it really mean?
01:52:49.000 I want to talk about that.
01:52:50.000 We'll talk about the uncensored portion.
01:52:52.000 For now, we're going to grab your rumble rants and super chats.
01:52:54.000 So smash that like button, share the show.
01:52:57.000 Forced name change says, I smell bullish.
01:53:00.000 What does Russia have to gain from attacking Germany or any other NATO ally?
01:53:03.000 They're barely holding out against Ukraine, never mind NATO.
01:53:07.000 Couple points.
01:53:08.000 One, I tend to agree with you.
01:53:10.000 It seems very, I don't know if false flag is the right word, but NATO wanting to get support to fund Ukraine makes a lot of sense.
01:53:20.000 Why would Russia instigate against NATO?
01:53:22.000 They're being attacked in Moscow.
01:53:23.000 That being said, the counter argument is that they're striking military targets where NATO is using to fuel and supply Ukrainians.
01:53:29.000 So they're trying.
01:53:30.000 To be disruptive without triggering a war.
01:53:33.000 Russia wants, or arguably, European EU citizens to say it's not worth it.
01:53:38.000 Who cares about Ukraine?
01:53:40.000 So certain attacks might freak people out.
01:53:43.000 Then again, we don't know for sure.
01:53:45.000 Libertarian Hog says, Phil, I want to include you as a werewolf in my next book, Fratris, a modern mythical story.
01:53:52.000 I just tagged you on X with the excerpts, and I want to include you as a character.
01:53:56.000 Okay.
01:53:57.000 We'll see.
01:53:58.000 Or's name, Jane says, someone passed Ian a doobie.
01:54:00.000 He seems a bit tense.
01:54:01.000 Ooh, you feel that?
01:54:02.000 There's a lot going on.
01:54:04.000 You're into it.
01:54:05.000 I'm feeling it, bro.
01:54:07.000 Captain Overkill says, I bought the no red coat skateboard on June 16th and was charged, never got it.
01:54:11.000 And no one answers my emails at Boonies8Q.
01:54:13.000 You guys suck at business.
01:54:15.000 All right.
01:54:16.000 Captain Overkill, we'll send you a Chinese board.
01:54:19.000 No problem.
01:54:20.000 How does that sound?
01:54:22.000 I will personally have the Chinese laborer write a letter.
01:54:26.000 Seriously, I'm going to reach out to our distributors and say, can we get the Chinese manufacturer to write a letter?
01:54:34.000 In Chinese to Captain Overkill, explaining the benefit he receives as an employee of the company, why it's better that we buy from China.
01:54:42.000 With all due respect and no disrespect, I appreciate you bought the board.
01:54:45.000 But we've explained on the show several times we have lost three American manufacturers.
01:54:51.000 If you want, I will get you a Chinese made board.
01:54:55.000 I will personally make the phone call and say, let's get that Chinese made board because Captain Overkill wants it.
01:55:01.000 Now, again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
01:55:03.000 I'm trying to make the point.
01:55:05.000 American companies are going out of business.
01:55:07.000 American manufacturing is in dire straits.
01:55:09.000 And because we chose American manufacturing, it's been taking a long time.
01:55:15.000 Three factories have gone out of business.
01:55:16.000 Even though we are selling out, it's just not enough.
01:55:21.000 It's just not enough.
01:55:22.000 Now, the boards have started shipping.
01:55:25.000 So, this is the good news.
01:55:26.000 And indeed, I apologize, it's taken a long time.
01:55:31.000 Here's the problem we have gotten more demands for Chinese made boards because they want the art.
01:55:37.000 Instead of supporting the American manufacturer, that's just the reality.
01:55:40.000 We have gotten from emails people saying, I don't care.
01:55:43.000 I want the board.
01:55:44.000 And we've said, we've replied, guys, we don't want to buy Chinese made boards.
01:55:50.000 It's insane.
01:55:51.000 It's destroying the culture here.
01:55:54.000 It's bad for the American economy.
01:55:57.000 To be honest, we've gotten more people saying, I don't care.
01:55:59.000 Give me the Chinese board.
01:56:01.000 So I say, okay.
01:56:02.000 People don't want to wait.
01:56:03.000 And I think that's a challenge, I suppose.
01:56:08.000 When push comes to shove, The individual says, What's one Chinese board?
01:56:12.000 It's not like everyone's doing it.
01:56:13.000 The problem is, everyone is doing it.
01:56:16.000 So I apologize that it hasn't come.
01:56:19.000 It's way more generous, forcing growth because people will go out of their way to not spend the money here.
01:56:26.000 Guys, I got to be honest.
01:56:27.000 I'm not sure it's possible.
01:56:29.000 We get everything we do made in America because we want to be true.
01:56:33.000 But I think the sad reality is not enough people actually care.
01:56:38.000 And it feels kind of like I am legend, sitting in the top of the tower looking down at all the people carrying their Chinese manufactured skateboards with smiles on their faces.
01:56:48.000 And I'm like, guys, shouldn't we make these boards in America?
01:56:51.000 One or two people say, you go, Tim, and then they go and buy a Chinese made board from the shop.
01:56:56.000 So it's really hard to do when people are like, I don't care about the boards.
01:57:01.000 I want them now, even if it comes from China.
01:57:03.000 And it's like, okay, I guess we should probably just switch to Chinese boards.
01:57:06.000 It's an uphill battle for sure.
01:57:09.000 We'd make so much more money if you had both on the website and it said, do you want to spend $58 and wait nine weeks, or do you want to spend $37 and get it in five days?
01:57:18.000 People are going to be like, what the fuck is going on?
01:57:20.000 I know they're going to be like, but you'd be like, this one and have it all in Chinese, be like, the CCP flag, be like, this will support China.
01:57:26.000 The slaves in China building your board quickly and making it fast.
01:57:28.000 And getting your American made one could result in an order going into a factory that went out of business.
01:57:32.000 You guys, we traded industry, American industry, for cheap, quick shipping slop.
01:57:39.000 And people are like, slop.
01:57:41.000 Or good slop.
01:57:42.000 Because it's slaves pumping it.
01:57:42.000 I got to be honest.
01:57:44.000 It still can be good quality.
01:57:45.000 That's the problem.
01:57:46.000 I don't.
01:57:47.000 It's still sometimes very, very good quality stuff.
01:57:49.000 I see what Trump is trying to do, but we are being fought by the American people.
01:57:55.000 And I'm not saying you guys watching, I'm not even saying you, Captain Overkill.
01:57:59.000 I'm saying the bulk of people who skateboard and want skateboards are literally saying, dude, shut up.
01:58:04.000 Who cares about America?
01:58:05.000 I want my board cheap.
01:58:07.000 So we are trying to be something different that supports the American culture.
01:58:10.000 But I don't know.
01:58:13.000 I can pull up a million videos on Instagram of a Japanese or Chinese kid ripping on a skateboard.
01:58:17.000 In America, the culture is largely dead.
01:58:20.000 And then you go online and people are like, Tim Pool's wrong.
01:58:22.000 Skateboarding's thriving.
01:58:23.000 The international market is amazing.
01:58:26.000 I agree.
01:58:27.000 It's doing great in Japan and China.
01:58:28.000 I can't name a skate shop near me.
01:58:31.000 All the iconic shops have closed.
01:58:33.000 There's very few left.
01:58:34.000 The ones that do exist are being subsidized.
01:58:36.000 So, this is the challenge.
01:58:39.000 When you guys buy from us, everything you get is American made.
01:58:42.000 And then what happened was we went through our third factory going out of business.
01:58:46.000 We had our first factory, and they were like, Holy crap, how are you selling so many boards?
01:58:49.000 And we're like, We got a big show.
01:58:50.000 People are big fans of the boards.
01:58:51.000 And then I remember they came to us and said, We just can't do it anymore.
01:58:53.000 We're shutting down.
01:58:56.000 They just can't afford it.
01:58:57.000 They can't afford it.
01:58:59.000 And our boards are not overly priced.
01:59:01.000 What these pro companies are doing is they're importing from China and they're getting them made at $30.
01:59:05.000 They're selling them at $90.
01:59:06.000 How much are your boards?
01:59:07.000 They cost us around $35.
01:59:09.000 We sell them for $50.
01:59:09.000 For a deck?
01:59:10.000 That's totally normal.
01:59:10.000 Yep.
01:59:11.000 That's actually ridiculously cheap.
01:59:13.000 No, that's like a great price.
01:59:15.000 I mean, I grew up skateboarding.
01:59:17.000 I think what we have to do is charge $100 for a board and then just give $60 to the shop to keep them in business.
01:59:23.000 But the problem is these American shops can't compete with China.
01:59:26.000 This is the reality.
01:59:28.000 We go to these American shops and we're like, guys.
01:59:30.000 How much for a board?
01:59:32.000 And they're like, 35.
01:59:33.000 And we're like, done.
01:59:34.000 And they go, whew.
01:59:35.000 And we sell them for 50.
01:59:36.000 And then our distributor says, why don't you guys just buy the wood from China?
01:59:40.000 It's like 15 a board.
01:59:41.000 It'll make so much more money.
01:59:41.000 It's dirt.
01:59:42.000 And we're like, because we want the American shops to exist.
01:59:45.000 But the American shops can't get enough clients outside of us.
01:59:48.000 Because what happens is someone goes to them and says, how much for a board?
01:59:50.000 And they go, 35.
01:59:51.000 And they go, eh, I'll go to China for 15.
01:59:53.000 So then eventually they say, hey, Tim, you're the only one that's doing these boards, but we only have two staffers.
01:59:58.000 It's really hard.
01:59:59.000 We give up.
02:00:00.000 I see.
02:00:00.000 I see.
02:00:01.000 Three factories have gone out of business.
02:00:03.000 I was going to say, like, that price that you're talking about, it's totally.
02:00:05.000 I mean, if I were to look up flip skateboards right now, are they still making skateboards?
02:00:09.000 Yeah, 80 bucks.
02:00:09.000 80?
02:00:10.000 Yeah.
02:00:10.000 That's even more expensive than I thought.
02:00:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:00:13.000 But, anyways.
02:00:14.000 Yeah, so you're super competitive.
02:00:14.000 Yeah, some of them are $100.
02:00:16.000 You're just saying, okay, well, the price that you're getting them for is significantly higher.
02:00:20.000 So here's the issue we could sell the boards for 100 and then just tell the shop, we're going to give you 60 per board you make to keep you in business.
02:00:28.000 Then the question is, will our viewers want to buy a board for 100 bucks?
02:00:32.000 Then the issue, so the principal issue is right now, let's just do math hypothetically.
02:00:36.000 A skateboard manufacturer in the United States needs to sell 1,000 boards per month to break even.
02:00:42.000 The minimum they can sell a board for is $30, $30.
02:00:45.000 And they have to sell 1,000 at 30.
02:00:47.000 China's selling them at 15.
02:00:50.000 So, someone goes to them and says, How much for a board?
02:00:51.000 And they go, We can give you a quick turnaround.
02:00:53.000 It's going to be $30 per board.
02:00:53.000 We're going to make them here.
02:00:54.000 And they go, China's doing half the price.
02:00:56.000 And they say, We can't do that.
02:00:58.000 This is break even for us.
02:00:59.000 Our cost of electricity, our cost of import, our American labor.
02:01:03.000 And people go, I'll go to China instead.
02:01:05.000 So then they end up selling over only $500 and say, We can't do it.
02:01:07.000 We're out of business.
02:01:08.000 We come along and say, We've got 300 to 400 boards per month and we'll buy them at your rate because we want America.
02:01:14.000 And they say, That's great, but we need to double that.
02:01:16.000 Otherwise, we're out of business.
02:01:17.000 And they went out of business.
02:01:19.000 Three shops we went through.
02:01:20.000 So.
02:01:22.000 I got to be honest, like the people who want to buy the boards who are fans of the show, we're getting more people who are like, I don't care about a manufacturing.
02:01:30.000 So we're like, maybe that's the reality.
02:01:33.000 I think to push back on that really quick is there are different industries where the manufacturing process with this, I brought up this point earlier with the new technology when it comes to the manufacturing.
02:01:44.000 They can make these products for pretty close to equal what you're getting them from China.
02:01:50.000 And if they're made here, you can get them a little bit faster as well.
02:01:52.000 I'm not saying every single industry is that way.
02:01:54.000 Maybe there's a lot of labor involved in building skateboarding.
02:01:57.000 The problem with skateboarding is that it's completely dead in the United States.
02:02:00.000 So the American manufacturers are competing with each other and not getting enough orders.
02:02:03.000 I see.
02:02:04.000 And culturally, most Americans don't care about American made.
02:02:07.000 That's why they're mad at Trump over tariffs.
02:02:08.000 They don't care if they're getting cheap Timo products.
02:02:10.000 They want them.
02:02:12.000 Let's grab a couple more before we go to the uncensored portion and talk more about this.
02:02:17.000 KJX says, in honor of Tim Cass' tradition, over Labor Day weekend, my nephew Zach had his second child run to this world by his brave wife.
02:02:23.000 Welcome Zalila into the world.
02:02:25.000 A new patriot awakens.
02:02:27.000 Let's go, Zalila.
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02:02:31.000 Libertarian Awk says I had Claude build and launch a Star Wars Galaxy private server.
02:02:35.000 Took about an hour, played the game.
02:02:37.000 Wow.
02:02:37.000 So cool.
02:02:37.000 I just had Claude rewrite 40,000 action script lines of code from an old Flash game, recreate the entire game perfectly, implement design elements that were never implemented but are sitting dormant in the code, and then told it to reuse the code to make a sequel to the game.
02:03:00.000 Mind blowing.
02:03:01.000 Upscaled the graphics, created online play, finger snap.
02:03:05.000 Took about an hour.
02:03:05.000 That's incredible.
02:03:06.000 Insane.
02:03:08.000 And that's old Claude.
02:03:09.000 This is not even the latest and best.
02:03:11.000 We are probably a month away from you being like, make GTA 7.
02:03:14.000 And I'll go, okay.
02:03:15.000 That's where I'm concerned because I'm using Claude to put code into Unity and I'm using ChatGPT as like my sidekick and all this.
02:03:22.000 And then I'm using Git to make a copy of the code and sending it to GitHub before I make an iteration with Claude.
02:03:28.000 And I'm like, yo, bro, in a month, you're just going to have one AI that you're like, maybe you can check it out.
02:03:33.000 Can you be like, make me an RPG that's like this?
02:03:35.000 And it just in one move spits the game right back at you.
02:03:38.000 Well, it doesn't, it does, it's not instant, but yeah, you can do all that, all the other, all the other apps that you're using.
02:03:44.000 You don't need to use them anymore.
02:03:45.000 It definitely went with Astra when that becomes available.
02:03:48.000 That'll do all the stuff for you.
02:03:49.000 We're going to grab one more before the uncensored show.
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02:06:53.000 So, we've got a video, I believe, right?
02:06:55.000 Yeah.
02:06:56.000 From Break the Chains.
02:06:57.000 We're going to pull it in and talk a bit about this if we can get it pulled in.
02:07:01.000 It says peaceful ice out protesters attacked several of us while we were on the other side of the street from the park.
02:07:08.000 The second time they attacked me, first time they attacked several of us, about six people.
02:07:12.000 They want a violent revolution and will assault anyone who opposes them or worse.
02:07:15.000 Here's the video.
02:07:17.000 Back the fuck up. Back the fuck up. Missy. Missy. Missy. Missy. Get the fuck up.
02:07:29.000 Corral your fucking commies!
02:07:36.000 Are you 911?
02:07:37.000 Get them over here!
02:07:40.000 12th of Mariposa, they're fucking assaulting us!
02:07:47.000 Peaceful protest, my ass!
02:07:50.000 Fucking faggot!
02:07:53.000 Are you okay?
02:07:54.000 That was assault! That was assault!
02:07:58.000 Get over here!
02:08:02.000 The fuck, dude?
02:08:26.000 They're coming this way.
02:08:29.000 Back the fuck up.
02:08:29.000 Oh my God.
02:08:31.000 Back the fuck up.
02:08:32.000 Missy.
02:08:33.000 Missy.
02:08:34.000 Missy.
02:08:35.000 Missy.
02:08:36.000 Get the fuck up.
02:08:38.000 Hey.
02:08:39.000 Hey.
02:08:40.000 Hey.
02:08:41.000 Hey.
02:08:41.000 Jesus.
02:08:42.000 Holy shit.
02:08:42.000 Jeez.
02:08:43.000 Yeah.
02:08:43.000 What's the context?
02:08:44.000 This is.
02:08:45.000 Wow.
02:08:47.000 Yeah, that's crazy, bro.
02:08:49.000 I'll say a few things before we pull in our callers.
02:08:51.000 We're obviously going to talk to Break the Chains here exactly about what happened.
02:08:54.000 But I want to talk about something.
02:08:57.000 My neighborhood in Chicago is gone.
02:09:01.000 It was when I was a kid, it was like 70% white working class, firefighters, city workers.
02:09:07.000 They all moved to this neighborhood because it was cheap and they had to live in the city limits.
02:09:10.000 Today, it's largely Hispanic with a lot of Asian.
02:09:13.000 And the reason for this is not net migration, it's that the white families that live there didn't have any children.
02:09:20.000 And the Latino families had a lot of children.
02:09:22.000 So the population is actually the same.
02:09:24.000 It's gone up only by like a fraction of a percent, but you can just see who did have kids and who did not have kids.
02:09:30.000 And so, you know, what I was saying is, I. I've got no issue with the people who live there, largely Latino and some Asian for the most part.
02:09:40.000 They're fine people for the most part, but it's not the way I grew up.
02:09:43.000 I grew up with the American Christian tradition snow falling on Christmas, throwing snowballs, building snow forts, dogs barking, and all this stuff.
02:09:51.000 And the people who live there have Feliz Navidad.
02:09:54.000 It's similar, but different.
02:09:55.000 And so I don't hate them at all.
02:09:59.000 You know, more power to them.
02:10:00.000 But my home and the world that I grew up in doesn't exist anymore.
02:10:05.000 I take issue with that statement, and here's why.
02:10:07.000 You know, when Elon Musk was like, My son is dead.
02:10:10.000 He was killed by the woke mind virus, and then it produced a trans child.
02:10:15.000 I feel like if you say out loud to everyone, My neighborhood is dead, it is gone, it will be dead.
02:10:21.000 But if you preserve it, not through delusion, through maybe delusions of grandeur, Ian, you're acknowledging it has changed.
02:10:29.000 Did Darth Vader kill Annex Gold?
02:10:30.000 Saturday morning, I'd wake up as a little kid and I'd go to Vidim Park, and there were four baseball diamonds, and there would be.
02:10:38.000 A game in each diamond back to back to back.
02:10:40.000 Oh man.
02:10:41.000 And me and my brother one day we went out with Kool Aid and we sold Kool Aid for like 30 cents a cup.
02:10:45.000 And we had a little, a little like thermos pump.
02:10:48.000 My dad gave us the money to buy the sugar and the Kool Aid mix.
02:10:52.000 We then made the Kool Aid, went there and sold it, made five bucks, and then paid him back his dollar.
02:10:56.000 I never went to the school to do it.
02:10:57.000 Now the baseball field is overgrown with weeds and they put soccer goals there instead.
02:11:01.000 Mine place is getting retrofitted, dude.
02:11:03.000 Our kids are about knockdown, our new high school.
02:11:05.000 I've got no problem with people who like soccer.
02:11:07.000 Soccer's fun.
02:11:08.000 I enjoyed the World Cup.
02:11:10.000 But it's not my home.
02:11:11.000 It's not where I grew up anymore.
02:11:13.000 And I can't go back and show my home to my child.
02:11:17.000 He's saying it's basically turning into not a community, but a bunch of strangers from third world countries that are coming there and immigrating.
02:11:25.000 No, That's not what I'm saying.
02:11:26.000 It's actually not what's happened.
02:11:28.000 It's that when I was younger, there was a very small Latino community and they had four kids each.
02:11:33.000 And the white working class families that lived there didn't have any.
02:11:36.000 Some did, me and my friends, obviously, but there were a lot of older people that had no kids.
02:11:40.000 So when they died, our friends are still there.
02:11:43.000 Some of them had kids.
02:11:45.000 Many of the families didn't.
02:11:47.000 So the empty homes got sold to the families who had kids.
02:11:50.000 Net out migration was not a factor in the demographic change in my neighborhood.
02:11:53.000 I will also stress crime was cut in half.
02:11:56.000 It's a better neighborhood, safer in a lot of ways.
02:11:59.000 My point is only that I'm allowed to love the baseball games that I saw when I was a kid.
02:12:04.000 I'm allowed to love my park and the traditions we had in Halloween and Christmas morning.
02:12:09.000 I don't hate these people in any way.
02:12:10.000 I'm not mad at them.
02:12:11.000 I'm not saying they should leave.
02:12:12.000 But I do think it's important to point out my neighborhood is not.
02:12:16.000 Recognizable for the way I grew up.
02:12:19.000 That means I can't bring my friends and family back and say, hey, look at what we used to do on the weekends.
02:12:24.000 All of it's gone.
02:12:25.000 I was just dating this girl and I took.
02:12:26.000 Took her back to Ohio to show her that stuff.
02:12:29.000 It's important to show your significant other and your family pieces of your past if you can.
02:12:35.000 Someone said they are third worlders.
02:12:36.000 No, no, I'm telling you right now.
02:12:37.000 I fully agree.
02:12:38.000 The people who grew up there speak English.
02:12:41.000 Many of them don't speak Spanish.
02:12:42.000 Some of them do.
02:12:43.000 And their parents aren't from Mexico.
02:12:45.000 They're like third or fourth generation Latino who have lived in Chicago for 70 years.
02:12:50.000 Many of them are friends of mine.
02:12:52.000 I hung out with a lot of them when I was kids.
02:12:53.000 The point is, they had big families.
02:12:56.000 They had big, big families.
02:12:58.000 I had one dude.
02:12:59.000 This guy that I used to skate with, he was third generation.
02:13:03.000 So his grandparents emigrated here.
02:13:04.000 They came here legally, legally.
02:13:06.000 And his parents were born here, sounded as American as apple pie, and liked baseball, were big fans of the Cubs.
02:13:14.000 But they told their son, you got to have as many kids as possible.
02:13:17.000 To get rid of the white people.
02:13:17.000 Why?
02:13:19.000 Not a joke, not an exaggeration.
02:13:21.000 I'm skating with him.
02:13:22.000 This is in Bucktown, Logan Square ish.
02:13:25.000 Well, Logan Square, Bucktown.
02:13:26.000 They're similar.
02:13:27.000 And he says, my parents told me, because he had a bunch of siblings, we got to have as many kids as possible.
02:13:27.000 The Logan Square Skatepark.
02:13:33.000 Because then we're going to take this country back from white people.
02:13:35.000 Damn, that's.
02:13:36.000 I never heard.
02:13:36.000 They're illicitly said that time.
02:13:38.000 There's La Raza, like kind of Hispanics like that.
02:13:41.000 Oh, bro.
02:13:42.000 Our entire neighbor was La Raza.
02:13:44.000 Interesting.
02:13:44.000 They were going around screaming La Raza.
02:13:46.000 Yeah, that's hardcore.
02:13:47.000 I mean, you see a lot of that in Los Angeles.
02:13:48.000 You know those anti ICE riots that when they were waving the Mexican flag and burning cars and all that's La Raza.
02:13:54.000 Like, that's that ideology where it's the race.
02:13:57.000 The race.
02:13:58.000 And so.
02:13:59.000 They're racial supremacists.
02:14:00.000 They believe that white people are bad.
02:14:00.000 Right.
02:14:03.000 The mestizo Mexican native Central American is it should be dominant, and so, like, explicitly, dude told me, I believe that they own Texas and California and are responsible for why America is the way that it is.
02:14:15.000 Oh, they were all conquesting the natives anyway, those were all Mexican Spanish people that came, yeah.
02:14:21.000 The Spaniards came and mixed race with the natives, creating a mix.
02:14:26.000 All those Mexicans that are yelling, Viva la Mexico, are Spanish conquerors, they're descended from Spanish conquerors, just like we are, not all of them.
02:14:34.000 Likely that some conquistador was involved in their journey.
02:14:37.000 Okay, let's slow down again, Ian.
02:14:38.000 Technically, there's Central American, which is the majority.
02:14:42.000 Then there's Mestizos, which is a mix between Central American and Spaniard.
02:14:47.000 And then there's a minority of pure European.
02:14:50.000 Mapuche, the original one.
02:14:52.000 Right, so most of these people are actually native Central American.
02:14:55.000 Are you talking about the Mapuche?
02:14:57.000 In Chile, they're called Mapuche people.
02:14:58.000 No, look, the Hispanic La Raza people.
02:14:59.000 Oh, okay.
02:15:00.000 They're Hispanic, though?
02:15:01.000 Yeah, where I went to school, it was all like people screaming La Raza.
02:15:05.000 For sure.
02:15:06.000 Sorry to interrupt, James.
02:15:07.000 And now the neighborhood is literally.
02:15:08.000 All Hispanic Latino.
02:15:10.000 And I'm not saying everybody there hates white people, but I got to tell you, like this one dude I knew explicitly said, my family has said this is what we're doing and this is why we're doing it.
02:15:10.000 Yeah.
02:15:18.000 La Raza is particularly anti white.
02:15:21.000 In fact, like from doing a lot of street conversations, you kind of figure out what groups do what, right?
02:15:27.000 There's actually a lot of that in the black community and more than most people think or even understand of that anti white.
02:15:34.000 But where La Raza is much different is they're like, we're the Native Americans.
02:15:39.000 It's our country.
02:15:40.000 California.
02:15:40.000 California is ours.
02:15:42.000 Texas is ours.
02:15:43.000 No borders, no nothing.
02:15:45.000 And it's like, whereas maybe you get some stuff like that that's similar in the black community, it's more just like anti white just because they don't like whitey.
02:15:52.000 This is more of like kind of a conquering ideology in a way.
02:15:57.000 I got to read about La Raza.
02:15:59.000 This is the first I've heard of La Raza, particularly since the history of shared cultural identity among people of Mexican, broader Latin American heritage.
02:16:06.000 Jose Vespa.
02:16:07.000 Dude, the Patriots that are like Hispanics in the U.S., I mean, they are.
02:16:11.000 Some of the most patriotic people you will ever talk to because they maybe their family members or grandparents grew up in Mexico or some other country and they understand why America is so great and they have that unique perspective that a lot of people don't have.
02:16:25.000 So, you know, while you do get that extreme in the Latino community, you also get major patriots.
02:16:32.000 Not the majority of Hispanics, but still, those patriotic ones are very patriotic.
02:16:39.000 I grew up, you know, Caucasian, basically.
02:16:41.000 What is it?
02:16:42.000 Irish, German ancestry.
02:16:44.000 Never once was any.
02:16:46.000 Directive given to me to outbreed black people or Mexican people to make the country.
02:16:50.000 Oh, you didn't have that talk with your dad?
02:16:52.000 I guess because they were resting on their laurels, maybe they should have been like, hey, at least be on the defense against other races and cultures that want to outbreed your white people.
02:16:59.000 You probably had good parenting, man.
02:17:01.000 You probably had a good family, and that's healthy.
02:17:03.000 But, like, you know, there's that phrase where it's like, oh, you don't see race, but like race sees you.
02:17:08.000 You know what I mean?
02:17:09.000 Like, there's other people out there that really don't like white people and Americans.
02:17:15.000 At least since, you know, like all my life as a Gen Xer, it's like, You know, racism and seeing race, seeing yourself as a white person, was considered very bad.
02:17:27.000 You know, and we didn't get the sense that other races saw themselves as that race, except for maybe black people, because black people, you know, were a significant minority in the U.S.
02:17:38.000 And they kind of always had the, you know, we have to stick together thing going on.
02:17:41.000 But like, the only reason why that was pushed, and that was real, that wasn't a feeling, that was true, and they pushed that, and that's propaganda that they pushed.
02:17:49.000 The only reason for that is to get people to accept their replacement in their communities.
02:17:55.000 That's the only reason for that.
02:17:56.000 When it comes to, oh, well, I see myself as a white person.
02:18:01.000 If you seeing yourself as a white person or a part of a community is a bad thing, you won't try to defend it.
02:18:06.000 Yep.
02:18:08.000 Let's bring in Break the Chains Media to talk about what was going on with this protest because it's all kind of similar, you know?
02:18:13.000 You guys weren't in the room when we played this.
02:18:14.000 This is a riot.
02:18:16.000 Break the Chains is on the line, so he's going to explain the video.
02:18:16.000 It got out of control.
02:18:20.000 Cool.
02:18:20.000 What's up, man?
02:18:21.000 What's up, man?
02:18:22.000 What's up, man?
02:18:22.000 What's up, brother?
02:18:23.000 Good that he's going to explain it.
02:18:24.000 What is going on, my man?
02:18:25.000 I appreciate you guys.
02:18:26.000 Boys in the house.
02:18:27.000 Let's go.
02:18:28.000 Yeah, it was a.
02:18:30.000 Rather laborious weekend on Labor Day for me as well.
02:18:34.000 Real quick, what happened here?
02:18:35.000 We watched the video earlier, but I'm playing catch up.
02:18:37.000 James and Phil weren't in the room, but for everyone else, it's listening.
02:18:39.000 Where were you?
02:18:40.000 What happened?
02:18:41.000 What happened before this?
02:18:42.000 Oh, great.
02:18:43.000 So essentially, what happened was there were 160 plus Colorado schools in the area that were doing an ice out protest, a walk out from school on Friday.
02:18:43.000 Yeah.
02:18:55.000 And it was a well publicized, well advertised event put on by a high school student.
02:19:02.000 This is just the story.
02:19:04.000 She started this event and it went all up and down the state of Colorado.
02:19:08.000 And I said, okay, well, there's a large gathering.
02:19:11.000 It's going to be down at Lincoln Park slash La Alma Park.
02:19:14.000 They renamed the park, coincidentally.
02:19:17.000 And this school walkouts are going to be down in Denver.
02:19:19.000 So I said, I'm going to, you know, I report on stuff.
02:19:21.000 I'm here and I do all kinds of stuff in the Denver, Colorado area.
02:19:26.000 I'm going to go report, ask some questions to these kids and get their thoughts on why they're protesting ICE and just kind of be that man on the ground, you know.
02:19:34.000 Jay Leno, type journalist.
02:19:37.000 And very quickly, it devolved into targeted attacks and coordinated efforts by the adults at this event that pointed me out, as well as several other journalists that were assaulted.
02:19:51.000 I was not the only person that was assaulted there.
02:19:54.000 There were five assaults, at least two robberies, three people went to the hospital, and all because there were directed, coordinated efforts from adults at this event that pointed us out as agitators, as provocateurs, as white supremacists, the typical leftist tropes.
02:20:20.000 The goal is to get you hurt by doing that.
02:20:23.000 That is their goal.
02:20:25.000 And they're all high school kids, right?
02:20:26.000 So, like, it kind of sucks being a big, you know, burly, big ass dude and having to succumb to a mob of 100 students, you know, attacking me.
02:20:39.000 But I'm not going to swing on a kid, you know.
02:20:42.000 But I think I made the right decision.
02:20:45.000 I recorded everything I could do.
02:20:46.000 I was there to report and cover the event.
02:20:50.000 I was not expecting by any stretch to get to this level of what it was.
02:20:54.000 I mean, Mario Nuffel reported on it.
02:20:57.000 Andy No, Asmugold, several people picked it up this weekend.
02:21:01.000 Well, that's you making the right decision right there is taking that risk, filming, and exposing that insanity.
02:21:09.000 So great work.
02:21:10.000 Wow.
02:21:11.000 Yeah, no.
02:21:11.000 Is this James?
02:21:12.000 Yeah.
02:21:14.000 Yeah, appreciate you.
02:21:15.000 And to your point you weren't mentioning earlier, like my grandfather is a direct, like he grew up in Mexico.
02:21:21.000 Like I'm a direct, like Hispanic American, like, you know, like second generation American.
02:21:29.000 He was a Korean war vet, but I have strong pride in this country.
02:21:34.000 And sad thing is, my friend who was there with me, she is a first generation legal migrant, first generation in her bloodline to speak English in America.
02:21:45.000 She was assaulted, two black eyes, and sent to the hospital.
02:21:49.000 A Hispanic woman was assaulted by anti ICE protesters in Denver, Colorado.
02:21:55.000 Like, what a headline that is.
02:21:58.000 You know, absolutely insane.
02:21:59.000 And I guess my biggest point, I'm trying to get to my question that I have for you, but is this instituted?
02:22:06.000 This is structuralized.
02:22:07.000 I have communist propaganda that they were promoting here.
02:22:11.000 Malak Hero spoke at this event, right?
02:22:13.000 They were doing TikTok dances after we were all assaulted in the park.
02:22:19.000 Yeah, the cognitive dissonance and the level of just complete disillusion to the reality of the situation is sickening.
02:22:27.000 And they use these children as pawns.
02:22:29.000 And they're modern day Red Guard Maoists.
02:22:32.000 Like they're trying to destroy the four olds, right?
02:22:35.000 They're doing this right now in our country in this moment.
02:22:39.000 And my question to you, my question to the panel is what is this?
02:22:45.000 I mean, obviously we're seeing the bubblings and the inklings.
02:22:47.000 I just saw Andy Nose post something else similar that happened in Los Angeles this weekend.
02:22:52.000 But we are seeing, we might not have had a riot season in summer, but now we are seeing this unfold closer to the midterms.
02:22:59.000 What is, what will be your thoughts?
02:23:03.000 There needs to be some sort of, you know, never let a good crisis go to waste scenario that the left is going to institute to further push along their agenda to promote maybe this, you know, lack of better terms, a Patriot Act 2.0.
02:23:18.000 But from a legislative perspective, like they need this, they need this violence in the streets.
02:23:25.000 What could, what do you guys see that might be in the future?
02:23:30.000 What would actually, like, what kind of violence would?
02:23:33.000 Well, I wonder if the reason why we haven't seen a lot of riots is not because of USAID being gone, but because the Democratic institutions realized woke was crazy.
02:23:43.000 People don't like it.
02:23:44.000 They're backing off to let Trump and the Republicans hang themselves, especially with this war.
02:23:49.000 Then they're going to come back after the midterms, disrupt everything, blame Trump for it all, and then try and win in 2028.
02:23:54.000 And woke will come back with a vengeance.
02:23:56.000 The riots and the violence will come back once they push Trump out.
02:23:59.000 I think it's a mixture of things.
02:24:00.000 I think, spot on with that, when it comes to, eh, you can kind of just sit back and let the gas prices and the economy.
02:24:08.000 I mean, you know, we're talking about getting done with like four years of record, a 40 year high inflation.
02:24:13.000 Dude, just that alone is putting pressure on the American people, let alone the gas prices and everything like that.
02:24:18.000 But I think it's a mixture between them.
02:24:21.000 Maybe backing off, but also I think that we've witnessed them trying to push this multiple times over the last two years.
02:24:30.000 I think they've been looking for a George Floyd moment with a lot of these riots going on.
02:24:35.000 Look no further than pushing the ice facility protests and riots, and literal riots, is you do it for 100 days straight, hoping that maybe something devastating happens, right?
02:24:49.000 And they'll just continue to.
02:24:52.000 Lie and push that.
02:24:53.000 What were they saying at the Delaney Hall Ice Facility?
02:24:55.000 They were saying that they were shifting the argument away from, oh, well, it's deportations and we're not happy about that, to, oh, well, there's bugs in their food.
02:25:04.000 They're doing all this.
02:25:05.000 So they keep crafting all these narratives to get people rioting in front of these facilities.
02:25:10.000 And I think that when they're doing that, they're fishing for that big, big moment where it's like, oh, maybe there's a shooting in the crowd.
02:25:17.000 Maybe an ICE agent does something just unimaginable that they can continue.
02:25:22.000 To snowball off of.
02:25:24.000 And I think they've been largely unsuccessful with that because, one, I don't know, maybe you need, maybe they haven't gotten the support of all leftist groups.
02:25:34.000 BLM's not really out there in full force, you know, so it's kind of a little bit more challenging maybe with anti I stuff.
02:25:40.000 But also, I think that maybe they're not going full throttle with Trump's current polling as well.
02:25:48.000 If they were polling so well and it looked like they were just going to absolutely crush it and There was no infighting on the right wing.
02:25:56.000 I think that the left would be investing a lot more in getting something like this going to push, you know, kind of their next.
02:26:05.000 What's his face, his name?
02:26:07.000 Their next.
02:26:09.000 George Floyd, yeah.
02:26:09.000 George Floyd.
02:26:10.000 Yeah.
02:26:11.000 People have been very vigilant to not take the bait the last three years.
02:26:16.000 It's been tempting.
02:26:17.000 January 6th was as close as I saw people in the Republican Party get to taking the bait.
02:26:23.000 There may have been FBI in the crowd, like government agitators setting up what looked like a, you know, And the more snowballs I see get thrown or wherever the fuck they were throwing across the street in that video, and people not responding violently.
02:26:34.000 You know, I said it out loud when Gavin McGinnis was supporting the Proud Boys and then Antifa, and I saw them tussling on the street, and it reminded me of the brown shirts and the black shirts, the Nazis and the fascists and the commies fighting in pre World War II Germany.
02:26:47.000 I could see like all it takes is like taking the bait.
02:26:51.000 If you start fighting back, that's when they'll crack down on everybody, they'll kill all the weak, the ones, the useful pawns, and then they'll set up their technocracy, which they've been trying to do with fucking flock cameras anyway.
02:27:02.000 So, they'll commit crime and then say, Hey, see, we need crime.
02:27:06.000 We need government surveillance.
02:27:07.000 And they get a hold of the surveillance tool and they fuck you up.
02:27:10.000 So, don't take the bait.
02:27:11.000 They're going to keep baiting you.
02:27:13.000 It's going to keep happening.
02:27:14.000 Yep.
02:27:15.000 No, yeah, Ian, you've been rolling a lot of ones tonight, but I think that that was a 20.
02:27:19.000 No, I appreciate that because that's exactly what I'm trying to do expose and record, document, observe, see what's happening, and not take the bait.
02:27:29.000 And because this is part of their tactic instigation, you know, acceleration.
02:27:36.000 And when we sit here and we see what's happening, we see what's happening on the street, right?
02:27:41.000 And if we expose their infrastructure, we expose how they're choosing to target children, just like communists did in the old, trying to indoctrinate these young minds into false ideals, like we have to expose that.
02:27:56.000 But we also cannot retaliate in violence and in aggression because that is exactly the catalyst that they need to flip the script and narrative against us to then push this further technocracy that we all are worried about.
02:28:10.000 So, yeah.
02:28:11.000 I mean, I agree with that.
02:28:12.000 What concerns me is I bet the planners of the technocracy sitting in their back rooms are like shit.
02:28:18.000 Our attempt at goading them into violence isn't working.
02:28:21.000 How can we do this then?
02:28:22.000 How can we make it work?
02:28:23.000 Like it's an economic hitman model.
02:28:25.000 Step one has failed.
02:28:26.000 What's step two?
02:28:26.000 Do you guys really think that, like, so when you say technocracy, what comes to my mind is like, you know, people like the AI, you know, kind of tech guys or people like in Silicon Valley.
02:28:41.000 Do you think that they.
02:28:43.000 Desire the kind of world that, like Antifa desires?
02:28:48.000 Do you think that their motivation is to inspire Antifa?
02:28:53.000 Because the, the, and I ask this because the communists, the left are broadly against AI and against the kind of progress that it's offering.
02:29:05.000 So I feel like it's not the technocracy guys.
02:29:09.000 I think that if it is a, you know, if there are people that are interested in, in, Inspiring violence from the left.
02:29:18.000 I don't think that it's the guys that are like, hey, let's build the AI and build the future.
02:29:24.000 I think they're people that are actually looking backwards and saying, we need to have some kind of class war.
02:29:31.000 We need to get the guys that are building AI.
02:29:34.000 Look at Bernie Sanders.
02:29:35.000 He's totally against AI.
02:29:36.000 Look at AOC.
02:29:37.000 She's against AI.
02:29:38.000 They're against data centers.
02:29:39.000 They're against all of the things that the people that are in Silicon Valley are kind of for.
02:29:45.000 They're against it right now.
02:29:47.000 And, you know, it's like, okay.
02:29:49.000 So you say right now, but does that mean that.
02:29:51.000 They're just trying to grab issues to protest against.
02:29:53.000 So you're talking about the Antifa people?
02:29:57.000 No, no, no.
02:29:58.000 I'm saying like Bernie Sanders and AOC, like data centers, right?
02:30:02.000 I think that a lot of things are just like, oh, well, it's kind of easy.
02:30:05.000 It's an easy thing to wrap your mind around.
02:30:07.000 And it's like, okay, cool.
02:30:08.000 We're going to be against that right now.
02:30:09.000 But like, look back a couple years ago.
02:30:13.000 We had the Disinformation Governance Board being pushed under the Biden administration.
02:30:18.000 They were.
02:30:19.000 Holding more meetings under that administration.
02:30:21.000 My general point here is I think politicians will use the stuff that they have available to them in tech, which is a mixture of entrepreneurs, tech bros, which are a lot of them are waking up.
02:30:32.000 I have friends in the tech industry.
02:30:34.000 A lot of them have woken up.
02:30:36.000 And then you also have extreme leftists in tech as well.
02:30:38.000 Like, dude, there are full on transcoders and stuff like that, people working in the gaming industry.
02:30:46.000 So the gaming industry, yeah.
02:30:47.000 Politicians will use that relationship that they have with tech and they'll also just use it.
02:30:53.000 Maybe not even the relationship.
02:30:55.000 They'll just leverage it as we've seen.
02:30:56.000 The previous administration had held more meetings on censorship than held cabinet meetings.
02:31:02.000 So, you know, it's like, okay, well, do they need to agree with the tech industry on every little thing?
02:31:08.000 No.
02:31:09.000 But can you help us push this censorship industrial complex?
02:31:14.000 Okay, cool.
02:31:14.000 Yes.
02:31:15.000 Okay, cool.
02:31:16.000 Can we use you for that?
02:31:17.000 I think it's less about what they like specifically and more about what they will do to control your life.
02:31:24.000 Yeah, I align with that because I think that when I think of the tech.
02:31:27.000 I think less about Silicon Valley and more about Davos and the Swiss francs working with the Communist Party of China to develop a corporate governance system.
02:31:34.000 It's more of the political side than it is the tech side.
02:31:37.000 They're just going to use what tools they have available.
02:31:39.000 They're happy to see Antifa as a tool that they will fund and provoke to start a class war or a street war with the Proud Boys or whoever the fuck is dumb enough to fight back.
02:31:50.000 And then that will cause an implosion within the United States.
02:31:52.000 The technocracy will rise, put up cameras everywhere, and stomp both Antifa and their rival gang out and then have total technocratic control.
02:32:00.000 That's my concern.
02:32:01.000 And that's another 20, Ian.
02:32:03.000 Appreciate you because that's exactly it.
02:32:06.000 Silicon Valley, not so much, more about Chinese technocratic surveillance state.
02:32:10.000 Like that's kind of what my angle is too.
02:32:14.000 All right.
02:32:16.000 Well, you got any follow ups?
02:32:18.000 You know, I'm going to be, I mean, this is a developing story.
02:32:22.000 I appreciate you guys taking it on and talking about it.
02:32:25.000 But I've got a lot of people reaching out to me as far as what happened, what went down, more to come as far as arrests or, you know, being investigated in this regard.
02:32:40.000 But it is institutionalized.
02:32:42.000 I want to make sure that people are knowing what your children are learning and what.
02:32:47.000 Indoctrination system they're going to.
02:32:49.000 And if they are going to an indoctrination system, you should homeschool.
02:32:52.000 But this is the big thing.
02:32:53.000 And I was assaulted two different times.
02:32:57.000 My camera was stolen and my equipment was taken from me.
02:33:00.000 So I do have a give, send, go set up on my ex account.
02:33:03.000 What kind of camera were you using?
02:33:05.000 I was using a body camera and a wire, you know, plug in mics.
02:33:10.000 And I got it swatted out of my hand.
02:33:13.000 And then I proceeded to get knocked to the ground and kicked in the head.
02:33:17.000 And someone stole it.
02:33:18.000 And then probably threw it away, could never get it, and got a police report.
02:33:21.000 But I'm not probably going to get my camera back.
02:33:24.000 So I got a Gibson Go set up on my X page.
02:33:30.000 It's under an article there if you guys wanted to check it out.
02:33:33.000 I appreciate anyone in the IRL, anyone in the stream to follow me on X, follow me on Instagram.
02:33:38.000 I talk about all things politics, culture, social media, news, everything Colorado related on Break the Chains Media on all social platforms.
02:33:46.000 Appreciate you guys.
02:33:46.000 And I will talk to you all in the after show.
02:33:49.000 So be there in the Discord.
02:33:52.000 Ron, thanks for calling in, brother.
02:33:53.000 Thanks, man.
02:33:54.000 Keep up the great work.
02:33:56.000 Yeah, hardcore.
02:33:57.000 All right, next up, we got Alex.
02:34:00.000 What is up, Alex?
02:34:00.000 Hi.
02:34:02.000 Good evening, people.
02:34:03.000 How are you all?
02:34:04.000 Pretty good, man.
02:34:05.000 What's up, Alex?
02:34:08.000 Nothing much, nothing much.
02:34:09.000 Thanks for asking.
02:34:11.000 I'm your lovely resident, Serb, here.
02:34:12.000 I'm going to ask you dumb questions again, so let me start off with it.
02:34:16.000 This is a question for the panel, for everybody involved.
02:34:19.000 Whoever has something to say, feel free to chime in.
02:34:22.000 So, it's related to the start of the show to the Russia war in my neighborhood here.
02:34:28.000 So, just want to ask so, considering that Germany and the EU itself rely on the Russians paying for the war with Ukraine once the war ends, and since they are borrowing money to support Ukraine, what is the likelihood of Germany being willing to plant a false flag in this conflict and activate Article 5 of NATO in order to thwart their own demise?
02:34:54.000 What are the chances?
02:34:58.000 I mean, I suppose it's a real possibility.
02:35:03.000 Is that something that Germany wants to do?
02:35:07.000 I don't know.
02:35:10.000 I don't know much about the politics of Germany.
02:35:13.000 I do know that it's possible, considering AFD won such a big victory.
02:35:21.000 Trying to sabotage AFD.
02:35:22.000 Yeah, they might.
02:35:24.000 It's possible they could do something like that to try and sabotage AFD.
02:35:29.000 But I mean, the result of conflict with Russia isn't good for Germany at all, right?
02:35:36.000 Like, even if the situation, excuse me, even if the situation, you know, activates NATO, you know, Europe is going to, Europe is right next to Russia.
02:35:49.000 You know, there's a couple of countries in between Germany and Russia, but it's not, it's not like the, they're not insulated like the US is.
02:35:58.000 You know this plenty well being from Serbia.
02:36:00.000 Yeah.
02:36:02.000 So I don't know if that's in Germany's best interest, but is it possible?
02:36:06.000 I mean, I would assume it is.
02:36:08.000 And is it possible, like, in Ukraine's interest for Germany to get attacked?
02:36:12.000 Well, kind of, if that activates Article 5.
02:36:14.000 So it could be a false flag coming from outside of Germany, from like the Ukraine or some extra government body that's trying to activate Article 5.
02:36:25.000 One of the first things I thought of was, is this a false flag?
02:36:29.000 And, you know, honestly, if Germany has been provoking the Russians and there's evidence that these NATO countries have been provoking and that that would nullify.
02:36:38.000 The NATO pact, anyway.
02:36:40.000 If one of your defensive partners attacks someone, you're not on call to go join them in their offensive war.
02:36:46.000 It's only if they get legitimately attacked, which makes me think it's not a false flag because they know the US is just going to say, fuck you, we're not going into war.
02:36:55.000 Like, if there's a war and the US doesn't want to go in, they're not going in.
02:36:58.000 They're going to be like, oh, shucks, we have this piece of paper that says we have to commit our military force to some bullshit.
02:37:03.000 It's not going to happen.
02:37:04.000 Like, you better, it's got to be a righteous defense.
02:37:09.000 Definitely, definitely.
02:37:10.000 Yeah.
02:37:12.000 I mean, I'm looking at it from the perspective of, for example, the elections.
02:37:18.000 That's one thing.
02:37:19.000 The debt that the EU has accrued so far is more or less above 130 billion.
02:37:26.000 And Russian assets that were frozen are in the 289 billion so far.
02:37:32.000 So that's kind of, I don't know.
02:37:36.000 I think either way, Germany, it's burning under Germany's feet at the moment.
02:37:41.000 That's the point.
02:37:42.000 I don't see them really doing this well.
02:37:46.000 For much longer.
02:37:48.000 I don't know how long they can support financially Ukraine.
02:37:52.000 That's kind of my concern because it looks also when it comes to the false flag aspect, I was looking at the drone situation with Romania.
02:37:59.000 The drone, what supposedly happened was the fight, there were drones coming in from Russia attacking Kiev and Odessa.
02:38:09.000 Supposedly, they didn't strike all of them down, and the drone entered Moldova from Odessa, which is Ukrainian region.
02:38:18.000 So it could be either way.
02:38:19.000 It could be Ukrainian, it could be Russian still.
02:38:23.000 And kind of went around.
02:38:25.000 Supposedly it was an attack drone, could have been scrambling because it lost data or connection with its main server or whatever.
02:38:33.000 And it just crashed back in Moldova.
02:38:35.000 So it kind of made a U turn in a way.
02:38:38.000 So it's an interesting situation, really.
02:38:40.000 That's basically why I'm concerned.
02:38:42.000 I'm just not sure.
02:38:44.000 And also there was the Leipzig incident as well in Germany, which Germans say.
02:38:48.000 Was a Russian drone, but there's kind of no evidence, just like sources said.
02:38:53.000 Sources close to this said.
02:38:55.000 I mean, look, it is possible that Russia's looking at the United States tied up in Iran and kind of like, you know, maybe now is the time to make some moves.
02:39:07.000 But I don't have any kind of really good sense of, you know, what kind of goals Russia has.
02:39:17.000 You know, I think that they do want.
02:39:19.000 You know, parts of Ukraine, they're not looking to back down in Ukraine, but I don't know that they have, I don't know that they have, you know, broader ambitions to get back, you know, countries that were formerly part of the Soviet Union.
02:39:33.000 We've got two significant meetings with the Russians and the Americans in the last month.
02:39:38.000 You probably heard John Ratcliffe, CIA director, went there, and it was like a 15 minute meeting.
02:39:38.000 One was in August.
02:39:42.000 Probably went in.
02:39:42.000 I believe I heard that it was about Iran.
02:39:45.000 The Russians said, get fucked.
02:39:47.000 We're doing whatever we want there.
02:39:48.000 He's like, all right, it's done.
02:39:49.000 Then on Saturday, three days ago, Steve Witkopf and Jared Kushner go there to meet with Putin directly for more than three hours, which is a very good thing.
02:39:57.000 And that indicates that the U.S. and Russia are planning a de escalation no matter what these European dudes do, and that probably we're going to stick Europe with the bill for reconstruction and give Russia. Partially what they want.
02:40:09.000 Yeah.
02:40:10.000 That's what I'm afraid of.
02:40:12.000 Are they going to start something stupid just because they're going to be in a lot of trouble?
02:40:16.000 No.
02:40:17.000 And the Chinese also lately have claimed they don't want any kind of heat, kinetic heat with the U.S. either.
02:40:22.000 It's just not fiscally solvent for any of us to blow each other up right now.
02:40:28.000 I mean, some of the people can get blown up, but not these big superpowers with nuclear weapons.
02:40:33.000 It's horrible.
02:40:33.000 That's the truth of it.
02:40:34.000 A lot of these countries also just aren't in the position to be doing it.
02:40:37.000 Like for China, I mean, they're.
02:40:40.000 They're seeing extreme unemployment right now.
02:40:43.000 They're strained with the Strait of Hormuz being closed.
02:40:46.000 So, you know, there's a lot of like, oh crap, well, we're not going to really poke that beast if we're in a sensitive spot right now.
02:40:51.000 And if China's great firewall gets breached by our AI and we propagandize their people, they'll fall within like six months.
02:40:58.000 Those they might try.
02:41:00.000 If their system gets breached, it's teetering on the centralized authority of that small group of people.
02:41:05.000 Like in America, we're armed.
02:41:06.000 The civilianry can walk outside and form militias at will and have their shortwave radios.
02:41:11.000 In China, they're fucked.
02:41:12.000 If central command gets corrupted, they're.
02:41:14.000 They're completely, they know they're a paper tiger.
02:41:16.000 They're like, they're acting so hard and praying to God that we'd make deals with them.
02:41:21.000 If I'm being honest, I actually thought Russia was a lot stronger.
02:41:25.000 I would listen to the people on X that were like, oh, dude, they're just like the toughest ever.
02:41:29.000 And, and like, I mean, they're massive, but they're getting crushed.
02:41:32.000 They're massive.
02:41:33.000 I, I understand that.
02:41:34.000 But yeah, they have not proven to be particularly impressive to me, at least, I guess.
02:41:39.000 The threat from Russia is nuclear weapons.
02:41:41.000 That's it for sure.
02:41:43.000 When it comes to the U.S., but honestly, I'm not even sure that's the case.
02:41:45.000 Well, I mean, that.
02:41:46.000 We're talking about, like, the stuff that we know about, we're talking about 60, 70 year old technology.
02:41:52.000 You guys, they did the same thing, honestly, with Iran as well.
02:41:56.000 It was, you know, remember, if anything happens to Iran, they're not in Iraq.
02:42:00.000 They're big, they're wealthy, they're powerful.
02:42:02.000 And it was like, well, no.
02:42:06.000 That ended up not being the case.
02:42:06.000 What do you mean?
02:42:08.000 What do you mean?
02:42:09.000 We're losing.
02:42:09.000 What?
02:42:10.000 What?
02:42:11.000 With the Iran war right now.
02:42:12.000 No, no, no.
02:42:13.000 I'm referring to, well, I don't know about losing, but.
02:42:17.000 But I'm more referring to World War III conversations around that issue.
02:42:23.000 Like that Iran would retaliate in some way.
02:42:25.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:42:27.000 When I say losing, I'm saying the Americans have objectives they cannot accomplish.
02:42:31.000 And their will to fight slowly goes down.
02:42:33.000 It's called war fatigue, you know, just being at war, the cost of being at war slowly.
02:42:37.000 And then when your morale hits a certain number, the war ends.
02:42:39.000 I get that.
02:42:40.000 But like will to fight, like what do you mean?
02:42:43.000 We're not doing reports about the guys on the aircraft carrier jumping off.
02:42:48.000 What was that?
02:42:48.000 The reports about the people in the aircraft carrier jumping off or the death of the people threatening to kill themselves.
02:42:54.000 The Lincoln was in an extremely long deployment.
02:42:57.000 It was way overdone.
02:42:57.000 Like it was extended.
02:42:59.000 They were pissed.
02:42:59.000 If there starts to be a loss of American, like the Russians are experiencing a loss of Russian life.
02:43:02.000 No, no, no.
02:43:03.000 I understand all that.
02:43:05.000 We're not going to win our objectives with Iran unless we have boots on the ground, unless we go in and.
02:43:11.000 We're talking about 90 million people.
02:43:11.000 But you can't.
02:43:13.000 The U.S. doesn't have the capability for.
02:43:14.000 It's a massive country.
02:43:16.000 Yeah, no, when I was getting my point out, that wasn't exactly what I was talking about.
02:43:19.000 I was more of talking about the conversations around.
02:43:22.000 The military capabilities of these countries.
02:43:26.000 I thought, let's say you asked me three years ago, I would have thought it was much more serious than it ended up being.
02:43:32.000 I understand that.
02:43:33.000 So, the people asking what I'm talking about, it's this we've decimated their top leadership.
02:43:38.000 They're all dead, but they still maintain the Iranian revolutionary Islamic government.
02:43:44.000 The Trump administration has gone back and forth in negotiations, but not made any direct accomplishments as to what they're claiming they want to accomplish.
02:43:51.000 We've been, a deal is here, an MOU, it's signed, and every day back and forth at the end of every week, we stop reporting on it largely because there's been no definitive movement.
02:44:00.000 Trump claims that we now control the strait.
02:44:02.000 We control a portion of it as we have since the start of this war.
02:44:05.000 If your argument is that they're trying to keep the strait open, it closed because of the initiation of the war.
02:44:11.000 So one can make the argument that we've crushed them in many ways, but we've not had regime change.
02:44:16.000 We've just eliminated their top brass, and now they've got weaker, stupider brass still running the IRGC and their government.
02:44:22.000 We are now going on six months, seven months, and diesel is really high.
02:44:27.000 The Strategic Petroleum Reserve has been depleted.
02:44:29.000 We're now going to be offsetting American domestic production with Venezuelan heavy crude.
02:44:34.000 And using American domestic light crew to try and refill the SPR, I don't see any reality where someone could be saying, like, we're winning, unless the goal is specifically to obstruct the Strait of Hormuz, which I do think is a big component.
02:44:50.000 But at what point, like, we're not gaining, we're just an inactive conflict that seems to be making no, no, no, no progress.
02:44:57.000 They don't seem to mind waiting.
02:44:58.000 They don't seem to mind waiting it out.
02:45:00.000 They do not seem concerned with that in the slightest.
02:45:03.000 I'm not so sure.
02:45:03.000 It depends on who you ask.
02:45:04.000 That's the challenge.
02:45:05.000 Because what we're doing is we're facing what you look at as a war score.
02:45:07.000 It starts at zero.
02:45:08.000 The more you move towards completing your objective, the higher your score goes up until you hit 100, and then they submit.
02:45:13.000 And same if we don't, the longer we wait.
02:45:15.000 Depends on whose morale is waning faster.
02:45:17.000 Probably American morale.
02:45:19.000 Well, I don't know, to be honest.
02:45:20.000 The American people are largely opposed to this.
02:45:23.000 The right has fractured completely around this issue.
02:45:27.000 And the Iranian people still are.
02:45:28.000 The Republicans enjoyed a historical advantage six months ago that we were gloating about, and now it's gone.
02:45:35.000 Now they're saying the Senate.
02:45:37.000 Is only going to be Republican due to a tiebreaker vote from JD Vance, and the House is now leaning further.
02:45:42.000 The advantage Republicans had to buck this historic trend is being destroyed.
02:45:46.000 It's not the only issue, but it's a large issue, and it's lost a lot of people out of it.
02:45:51.000 So the point is, whatever your argument is about why we're engaged in this war, I think principally it's jamming up the Strait of Hormuz.
02:45:58.000 We have to be there actively and permanently for that to remain in place, which means sooner or later, if that is the case, the U.S. has to bail out of that conflict.
02:46:07.000 And then it just, Iran goes back to some kind of status quo.
02:46:10.000 I don't see us doing that, though.
02:46:11.000 Because, like, I mean, one of the, I mean, a couple of the top reasons why they did what they did is very likely just looking at the current trends or the trends under the Trump administration, which is disrupting China's Belt and Road Initiative.
02:46:24.000 You have that.
02:46:25.000 You also have cutting off their oil, 40% shut off since the Strait of Hormuz closed.
02:46:28.000 For sure.
02:46:30.000 And you have major, major incentives also to basically fortify our.
02:46:39.000 Global energy dominance by tackling this as well.
02:46:43.000 And right now, American diesel is averaging $6.20 per gallon.
02:46:48.000 The SPR is drained to its lowest point since the 80s.
02:46:51.000 Yes.
02:46:51.000 So there is a question of American sustainability in this ongoing conflict for the purpose of slicing off our adversaries in the East's access to energy.
02:46:59.000 So again, it's not something that you win, it's something that you do for a set period of time to strangle your enemies and then stop.
02:46:59.000 Yeah.
02:47:06.000 The American people are going to ask, what did we get from it?
02:47:08.000 And I don't think Trump is going to come out and say, we did that for the purpose of destroying the BRICS economies.
02:47:12.000 At a cost of our own.
02:47:14.000 I don't think they're going to say that.
02:47:15.000 That's why they've only just kept saying the same stupid line we can't let them get nuclear weapons.
02:47:20.000 It's like, okay, well, what does that have to do with the Strait of Hormuz at this point?
02:47:22.000 I'm concerned with blowbacks.
02:47:23.000 That's not the issue.
02:47:24.000 Oh, sorry.
02:47:25.000 Like, you know, you kill a terrorist and then his sister and brother and father all become terrorists because now they hate you because you killed their son or their brother.
02:47:33.000 So, like, what kind of blowback are we creating by this?
02:47:36.000 Obviously, you see the Russians and the Chinese now getting closer.
02:47:40.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:47:41.000 Iran's been killing Iran.
02:47:41.000 No, look, look, look.
02:47:42.000 The conflict with the BRICS nations was ongoing for a very, very, very long time.
02:47:45.000 Iranians aren't developing any new hatred when they chant death to America.
02:47:48.000 No, no, no.
02:47:49.000 The Russians and the Chinese.
02:47:50.000 The Russians are now being forced into the arms of the Chinese because the Americans haven't been willing to be their allies.
02:47:55.000 So it's like, That's kind of an existential blowback where if you're fortifying the BRICS economy, that's not good.
02:48:00.000 You have it backwards, though, Ian.
02:48:01.000 Russia's not been willing to be an ally to us.
02:48:05.000 Russia controls natural gas in Europe.
02:48:07.000 The West was negotiating, but they couldn't control those prices.
02:48:09.000 When they tried to build pipelines to offset that, Russia competed militaristically and it resulted in conflict.
02:48:15.000 The U.S. destabilized Syria for the purpose of being able to get natural gas into Europe.
02:48:20.000 Russia said, We're not going to let you take Ukraine.
02:48:22.000 The U.S. used soft power.
02:48:23.000 Soft power won.
02:48:24.000 Russia pulled out the gun, went to war.
02:48:27.000 The issue was the West said, Play ball with us, and Russia said, No, we're Russia.
02:48:32.000 And so then we went soft power, hard battle, and it's conflict.
02:48:34.000 The Romans used to be.
02:48:36.000 Sorry, they would call B.S. a friend to Rome.
02:48:38.000 Are you not a friend to Rome?
02:48:40.000 And then if you were, that meant you were basically their subsidiary.
02:48:42.000 The U.S. is not going to back off its interests.
02:48:43.000 Are you a friend to Russia?
02:48:44.000 Russia's not going to back off theirs.
02:48:46.000 Alex, did you want to add anything or shout anything out?
02:48:50.000 Nothing in particular.
02:48:51.000 I mean, going to shout out the Discord.
02:48:53.000 And Tim, just want to ask you listen, I heard you're taking money from all these different countries and stuff like that.
02:48:58.000 Can you send somebody my way, please?
02:49:00.000 I mean, I can get.
02:49:01.000 Go, I can get done with 5,000, 10,000 a year.
02:49:04.000 I'm good.
02:49:06.000 It's coming.
02:49:07.000 You got money in your future.
02:49:08.000 Right on, brother.
02:49:09.000 Well, thanks for calling.
02:49:10.000 Thanks, guys.
02:49:11.000 Take care.
02:49:12.000 And to address the chat, I literally said the U.S. is using heavy crude from Venezuela for domestic to offset the SPR being drained, but we can't refill the SPR with heavy crude.
02:49:24.000 We need domestic light crude.
02:49:25.000 So the domestic production is being reprioritized towards refilling the SPR.
02:49:30.000 Venezuelan heavy crude will be used for domestic production for things like gas or otherwise.
02:49:34.000 This is why I said months ago the purpose of this was a Strait of Hormuz, because that's why Trump took Venezuela in the first place, to guarantee a backup plan for U.S. energy reserves.
02:49:44.000 The problem is all of this oil has to go on the international market to maintain the petrodollar system.
02:49:49.000 So the U.S. diverting domestic production for its SPR is kind of telling everybody that we want the petrodollar system, but are willing to, let's just say, massage the rules that benefits us.
02:50:02.000 If we dominate, everybody won't matter what we do, whatever we want with the petrodollar system.
02:50:06.000 But in the meantime, We are kind of undermining our own attempts.
02:50:11.000 I'm not saying to say completely undermining, but basically it's a recoil effect.
02:50:16.000 If we're going to get 80% advantage maintaining the petrodollar system, shutting off the Strait of Hormuz, we're taking 20% damage to the system itself by undermining it through what we're doing with Venezuela.
02:50:26.000 But I suppose it won't matter when we're the one pointing the guns at everybody else.
02:50:29.000 Let's grab Julian Borges.
02:50:31.000 What's up, brother?
02:50:32.000 What's up, man?
02:50:35.000 Hello again, everyone.
02:50:36.000 It's always a pleasure.
02:50:37.000 Guys really get the mental cogs turning.
02:50:40.000 Quick question.
02:50:41.000 I was just wondering if I could just briefly respond to that last point, if that's okay, before I get on to the meat and potatoes.
02:50:49.000 Yeah, I guess I'll direct this to Phil specifically.
02:50:52.000 You mentioned at one point you're kind of ruminating over what Germany would do in light of Alex's question and what ultimately would be best for the country.
02:50:59.000 But it got me wondering why would we assume that they want what's best for the country?
02:51:04.000 Isn't like all of Europe and by extension the West in an obvious controlled collapse right now?
02:51:09.000 I mean, if I recall, if the Nord Stream pipeline Situation.
02:51:12.000 It was essentially a false flag.
02:51:14.000 I mean, it's not categorized as such because it wasn't like a distinct perpetual, the kind of look of the Levant affair in the 50s with Israel.
02:51:21.000 But I'm sure you guys don't have to relitigate.
02:51:25.000 I'm sure you guys remember the situation with the Nord Stream.
02:51:28.000 Germany's accused the Ukrainian national of bombing Nord Stream 2, for which they were buying gas from Russia.
02:51:35.000 We've also heard conspiracy theories, and this is more coming from BRICS media sources, that it was CIA frogmen that bombed it, and that there was an attempt at blaming Russia for it.
02:51:44.000 They literally, in the media, claimed Russia blew up their own pipeline, which was the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.
02:51:49.000 The worst argument ever.
02:51:51.000 But the New York Times, like, Russia blew up the pipeline.
02:51:54.000 But it's their pipeline to sell gas to Germany.
02:51:56.000 What?
02:51:57.000 Skyscrapers.
02:51:58.000 So the question is: were the Ukrainians, if Germany is correct and Ukrainians did it, were they put up to it by the West to create a casus belly for a war with Russia?
02:52:07.000 Or did the Ukrainians do it of their own volition to force NATO to join the war on their behalf?
02:52:12.000 Don't know.
02:52:15.000 Yeah, but I think at the end of the day, we give them, because Phil was kind of answering this in good faith, and it just seems like we're giving them, there's way too much grace here, because I think we're all in general agreement here that the powers that be.
02:52:29.000 Just in general, just due to the nature of power, perhaps absolute power, but they don't really have our best interests in mind.
02:52:34.000 So I can't expect them to be thinking on a means of like what's ultimately going to be of benefit for their progeny.
02:52:42.000 It's more about like how do we get a global hegemony as soon as possible?
02:52:47.000 Does that jive with you, Tim or Phil?
02:52:50.000 I mean, I don't really have, like I said earlier, I don't have a sense of what's actually going on.
02:52:58.000 I was just kind of spitballing.
02:53:01.000 So I guess.
02:53:02.000 I guess your point is well taken.
02:53:05.000 Maybe they don't have an incentive to actually do something that's good for the whole journey.
02:53:14.000 Intuitively, though, do you kind of jive with what I'm saying here?
02:53:18.000 I think we all then agree.
02:53:20.000 Even just by the basic principle of power corrupts absolute power, it's kind of funny because we know that those who desire power the most, they deserve it the least and vice versa.
02:53:28.000 So by that nature, we can expect anyone who achieves that echelon of power.
02:53:33.000 They're going to naturally have bad motives intact.
02:53:37.000 But I mean, my perspective on that is like, I don't see what the upside is, right?
02:53:48.000 Like a war with Russia, I don't see what the win condition is for Germany.
02:53:57.000 Like, it is a war that would likely be fought in Europe.
02:54:02.000 The Ukraine war is ugly and it's been absolutely bad for Ukraine.
02:54:08.000 And even if it were a situation where NATO was activated, you're still going to see significant damage to countries all across Europe.
02:54:20.000 And to be honest with you, if you activate NATO, the possibility of a nuclear exchange is incredibly high.
02:54:29.000 So I don't know what the win condition is.
02:54:32.000 I don't know what the benefit for Germany would be were they to have a false flag.
02:54:40.000 So, because even, yeah, because even if these people are Machiavellian, we still know that at the end of the day, they do want to preserve themselves.
02:54:45.000 So, it's a precarious type of, you know, but the people that usually benefit from European wars are the bankers that fund the reconstruction, that fund the arms race, and then they fund the reconstruction.
02:54:55.000 But if it's a nuclear war, there's not reconstruction in any kind of sense that we understand it now, you know, and a war with NATO and Russia, like a nuclear exchange is a real concern.
02:55:10.000 And everyone knows that wars kind of, you know, spiral out of control.
02:55:14.000 So, again, the win condition where it's motivated by money, I don't know where, I don't know how someone wins that if there's, like, you don't win if there's a nuclear exchange.
02:55:28.000 And that's something that I don't know that it's worth risking.
02:55:32.000 Yeah, but no, you make your money from, like, skirmishes that you know there's not going to be a nuke thrown around.
02:55:39.000 I don't agree.
02:55:40.000 I don't think it matters.
02:55:41.000 Like, Hiroshima had to get rebuilt.
02:55:43.000 Dresden, after it was firebombed, and 300,000 civilians were.
02:55:48.000 Fucking evaporated into heat that needed reconstruction.
02:55:51.000 Like nuclear exchange could mean like 19 cities are wiped off the map, and Russia and the United States are no longer superpowers.
02:55:59.000 Now the Chinese model thrives, and the bankers make 10 times their trillions in debt that they recollect from the new American government, the new Russian government.
02:56:09.000 Yeah, I'm talking like 80 years ago.
02:56:14.000 I don't talk about the Bank for International Settlements out of Switzerland that oversees the Federal Reserve.
02:56:20.000 I don't see a limited nuclear exchange if people start shooting nukes.
02:56:26.000 Right.
02:56:27.000 You know, that's.
02:56:28.000 Yeah.
02:56:28.000 You plant.
02:56:29.000 Dude, I could see something where like three cities get hit and then they're like, we have to stop.
02:56:33.000 No.
02:56:34.000 No.
02:56:34.000 The issue is that most nukes are not going to be strategic, they're going to be tactical.
02:56:38.000 Yeah, and it's like depleted uranium's nuclear warfare.
02:56:41.000 Indeed, which has already been in play.
02:56:42.000 That's a totally different animal.
02:56:44.000 Yes, but when you say nuclear weapons, if Russia starts launching kiloton bombs.
02:56:49.000 No, no, I'm talking about like using.
02:56:52.000 Classifying depleted uranium rounds from a.
02:56:54.000 It is classified as nuclear weapons, yes.
02:56:56.000 Yeah, but it's not what people think of when you say.
02:56:59.000 Sure, sure.
02:56:59.000 It's not explosive.
02:57:00.000 The other problem is.
02:57:01.000 It's not explosive.
02:57:01.000 Sure, sure.
02:57:02.000 The other problem is.
02:57:02.000 When we're dealing with the use of nuclear weapons in the battlefield, no one's like.
02:57:06.000 No military person's thinking that Putin's going to launch an ICBM Merv at the East Coast of the United States.
02:57:11.000 He's going to launch a kiloton bomb through a howitzer onto the battlefield to just wipe it out and destroy their ability to fight.
02:57:17.000 Once you start using nuclear weapons, the possibility of an actual exchange becomes significantly more likely.
02:57:24.000 And I don't think that it's a risk.
02:57:27.000 That most of the countries want to take.
02:57:30.000 I don't think that Germany is going to have a false flag in order to start a conflict with Russia and invoke Article 5.
02:57:39.000 I don't think anyone's going to use ICBMs.
02:57:41.000 In fact, I'm not even sure that ICBMs are viable weapons at this point.
02:57:43.000 We're talking about 60 year old technology, 50 year old technology.
02:57:46.000 Hypersonic weapons that come straight down.
02:57:50.000 Yep.
02:57:51.000 What they use in Iran, where they fire the missile, the plane goes in range, shoots a missile straight up, it goes into orbit.
02:57:57.000 Or low orbit, and then comes straight down so it can't be intercepted.
02:58:01.000 I think there's no real point in using ICBMs like MIRVs, for instance, because you only need to remove the specific individual and then you can use other psychological and cybersecurity and means of taking control of the population.
02:58:01.000 Yeah.
02:58:18.000 Not to mention, if the purpose, depending on the scale of conflict, there could be use for an ICBM, but it's not.
02:58:28.000 It's not a practical win scenario.
02:58:30.000 It's just, this is not.
02:58:31.000 No, it's like a setup to an invasion.
02:58:33.000 If you air burst a nuclear weapon over a city, it wipes it out, wipes out their defenses, wipes out their machines, and then you send in the troops within like an hour.
02:58:42.000 That's a good start to an invasion, is a nuclear air burst.
02:58:46.000 Yeah, like I said, I think that the risk is too high for, you know, because whether or not you guys think it could happen, it is something that's a possibility.
02:58:57.000 And I don't think that anyone wants to.
02:59:00.000 I don't think that a false flag to initiate a conflict between NATO and Russia is worth the risk.
02:59:06.000 Yeah, I don't think it's a false flag either.
02:59:07.000 I don't think Germany did to itself anyway.
02:59:08.000 Another country might have.
02:59:09.000 And also, I was thinking maybe this is the Russians being like, this is a taste of what we can do to you.
02:59:14.000 We know you're Germany.
02:59:16.000 We don't give a fuck.
02:59:17.000 Now you know.
02:59:19.000 And that's one piece of a trillion more that we got.
02:59:21.000 Like, that might be a message from the Russians to the Germans.
02:59:25.000 And the Germans are like, oh, fuck.
02:59:28.000 Anyways, do you have a follow up or anything?
02:59:33.000 You know, Phil, I just got to thinking, doesn't this get you a creative juices flooring?
02:59:37.000 Don't you feel like making a sort of Children of the Grave 2.0 after all this talk?
02:59:41.000 I don't even know what Children of the Grave is.
02:59:44.000 Oh, Black Sabbath.
02:59:45.000 You're not into Black Sabbath?
02:59:46.000 No, no, not at all.
02:59:47.000 Not at all.
02:59:48.000 Oh, shit.
02:59:48.000 Really?
02:59:49.000 Okay, that's one of the famous.
02:59:50.000 It's like a nuclear apocalypse song.
02:59:53.000 I'm sorry, because I know you're a heavy metal guy, but I'm actually kind of surprised by that.
02:59:57.000 But don't worry, I'm not going to judge you for it.
03:00:00.000 I was never.
03:00:01.000 Sorry?
03:00:01.000 Go ahead.
03:00:01.000 No, go ahead.
03:00:02.000 His music taste?
03:00:04.000 Go ahead.
03:00:05.000 No, no.
03:00:05.000 Well, I think it's a fair assumption because you're a heavy metal guy, right?
03:00:08.000 But no, it's okay.
03:00:09.000 I'm not going to stress it.
03:00:10.000 He's got a lot of beer.
03:00:11.000 I don't assume he's a man unless he says he is.
03:00:13.000 Do you have anything you want to shout out?
03:00:17.000 I was being facetious.
03:00:19.000 Right, right.
03:00:21.000 Before I go, I wanted to say just real quick, and I'll jump after this.
03:00:26.000 Tim, when you had Destiny on, I was rather a little bit, to be honest, disappointed because I think, isn't it a fair standard we have that if someone, for example, it's one thing to mock people who are in the arena, that you would come on the show and you guys have that, you lock horns.
03:00:40.000 But when you're mocking someone who's like, he literally died serving his family, this is someone who he didn't ask to get the mud fling and mug at him, he wasn't in the arena.
03:00:47.000 We haven't had Destiny on the show in like.
03:00:49.000 What, four years?
03:00:50.000 It's been a while.
03:00:52.000 No, I mean, like doing content with him.
03:00:54.000 You mean when I appeared on Jubilee and debated him on key issues?
03:00:58.000 Yes, sir.
03:00:59.000 What's Destiny to that?
03:01:01.000 Destiny and I did the face off on Jubilee.
03:01:03.000 So, what's the issue with me doing that show?
03:01:08.000 Well, I'm not condemning you for it, but I think it was unwise for multiple reasons, but mainly because there's a certain sound of ethics I think we can agree upon.
03:01:18.000 For example, if you actually are insulting someone directly, she consents to getting in the arena.
03:01:23.000 Unlocking horns, as I mentioned, that's one thing.
03:01:25.000 But this is someone, if you're going ahead and you're using a platform to literally bully someone who died saving his family, so someone didn't consent to jump in the mud pit with you, is that not a bridge too far?
03:01:37.000 This is someone I think you are completely shaking.
03:01:42.000 I will publicly debate Benjamin Netanyahu.
03:01:45.000 I will publicly debate Hassan Piker.
03:01:48.000 Is he saying he doesn't like what Destiny did?
03:01:50.000 Well, Destiny gloated over the death of Corey Comprator.
03:01:54.000 Guy that was shot at.
03:01:56.000 And we never condemned him for being an asshole.
03:01:59.000 We said we won't have him on the show because it's a rule break.
03:02:03.000 And his gloating over it shows an intent to continually break the rules.
03:02:07.000 If we have him on the show, we'll just get banned when he laughs about it.
03:02:10.000 He's got no regard for the decorum.
03:02:15.000 And so it's like, listen, YouTube's got rules.
03:02:18.000 We don't agree with him.
03:02:18.000 That's why we do the uncensored portion.
03:02:20.000 But if we brought him on YouTube and he was going to laugh and gloat about the death, we could get a strike.
03:02:24.000 So we're not going to invite him on the show.
03:02:25.000 I never said I would never sit down with a guy or invite him somewhere.
03:02:29.000 I understand.
03:02:30.000 I do disagree.
03:02:31.000 Again, I'm not going to.
03:02:32.000 I still watch your show.
03:02:33.000 I still respect you.
03:02:34.000 I mean, obviously, we have limited time.
03:02:36.000 I could go on, but I'll leave it there.
03:02:37.000 But I do believe, not just you, for anyone, I believe it's unethical to associate with Destiny in any way until he apologizes directly.
03:02:44.000 Just like how, for example, if you like, there's certain ethics, right?
03:02:47.000 Like if you're a teacher and you go on your own and you go posting about how there's this faculty in the class that's so hilarious, I mean, that's grounds worthy for being fired.
03:02:54.000 At a certain point, your conduct does matter.
03:02:57.000 So that should reflect the space.
03:02:59.000 So that's my gist.
03:03:00.000 I don't know.
03:03:01.000 Waiting for an apology seems kind of like a pussy move.
03:03:04.000 Like, why don't you just confront him instantly and get it over with?
03:03:07.000 I don't know.
03:03:08.000 I understand.
03:03:09.000 I probably can't debate it right now.
03:03:11.000 Maybe later.
03:03:11.000 Maybe later I can pick it up.
03:03:13.000 I'll leave it there, guys.
03:03:14.000 Again, always a pleasure.
03:03:15.000 And I look forward to doing this again, hopefully sooner than later.
03:03:18.000 There's also, I know we're moving on, but like a fake apology.
03:03:23.000 Like, do you just want to hear him say the words?
03:03:24.000 Or do you actually want him to be sorry about something in which he may never utter the words, I'm sorry?
03:03:28.000 He may just actually feel the sorrow for what he's done.
03:03:31.000 And that can come out during a debate.
03:03:35.000 Frankly, I don't give a shit what he does.
03:03:37.000 I think we can all agree he's a scumbag.
03:03:39.000 I prefer not to see his face.
03:03:41.000 Around for the rest of my natural life.
03:03:45.000 But certainly, if he were to be genuinely contrite, then that would be the best case scenario.
03:03:49.000 I'd obviously hope for that, but I'm not losing sleep over it.
03:03:52.000 Sounds like you have a personal grudge against him.
03:03:55.000 He's an awful person.
03:03:56.000 No, no, it's not.
03:03:56.000 Oh, it's not.
03:03:57.000 I don't think about him.
03:03:59.000 I just have a basic ethical standard that I think is reasonable, right?
03:04:01.000 Like, again, if he were, it's one thing for him to mock Tan Marquis, which he does, by the way.
03:04:06.000 I've seen his post after the Jubilee.
03:04:09.000 He was slandering you.
03:04:10.000 He was being totally disenchanted.
03:04:11.000 Like, he's doing his usual, you know, destiny, like, you know, Akuma Gremlin shit, as Andrew Wilson puts it.
03:04:16.000 You know, in total, not an ounce of grace in his body.
03:04:19.000 But again, it's not that it's not about having a personal grudge, it's that okay.
03:04:22.000 It's previously when you argue with stuff like ethical, like he literally would argue for ethical child porn, things like that, things that will get like anyone immediately ready to act.
03:04:30.000 But for him, he gets a pass for some reason.
03:04:31.000 But you know, that's one thing fine.
03:04:32.000 You want to argue with that stuff.
03:04:33.000 I mean, you it's confined to this little intellectual masturbatory scenario.
03:04:37.000 Okay, that's that's whatever.
03:04:38.000 But again, when you bring that to the outside world with people that absolutely never consented to stoop into your mud pit, someone who literally died of being a hero for his family, nonetheless, that's your draw line.
03:04:50.000 And I think that's a reasonable standard.
03:04:51.000 I think people watching you have consented to being in the mud pit.
03:04:55.000 I cannot continue doing this work being mad all the time at everybody.
03:05:01.000 I know that they're bad people.
03:05:02.000 They've been bad people forever.
03:05:04.000 At a certain point, screaming isn't changing anything or doing anything.
03:05:08.000 I've been thinking a lot about working with evil.
03:05:11.000 The reason I'm neutral, why I am true neutral, is because I'm willing to work with evil people to get the job done because the outcome can be way better than our.
03:05:18.000 I'm not going to work with evil people.
03:05:19.000 I'm just saying, like.
03:05:21.000 I will.
03:05:21.000 Everybody is just angry 24 7 all the time.
03:05:25.000 Like, I tweeted this is what's happening.
03:05:27.000 I tweeted on X, I'm tired of people being angry.
03:05:30.000 And what happens?
03:05:31.000 Everyone's angry.
03:05:32.000 How dare you?
03:05:33.000 Psychotic.
03:05:34.000 Yeah, data Republican is freaking out attacking me because she didn't disclose that she had that government job.
03:05:39.000 So I guess she's embarrassed or angry about it.
03:05:42.000 She's like, you called me a liar.
03:05:44.000 And I was like, first of all, I never did.
03:05:46.000 And I guess she's just super embarrassed that.
03:05:51.000 Doge says she did not publicly disclose her special government employee role at the Pentagon before it was reported.
03:05:57.000 It's like, yep.
03:05:59.000 I'm tired of the corruption, but I'm not going to be angry and scream about it anymore.
03:06:04.000 I just, it's there.
03:06:06.000 We get it.
03:06:07.000 People on the right, many people on the right are secretly getting.
03:06:11.000 Look, we saw those Sarah Fields and those others that took that trip to Poland, paid for by Miriam Madelson's group, according to Alex Stein.
03:06:19.000 And we called them out.
03:06:20.000 Now they're attacking us for it.
03:06:22.000 I'm sick of the corruption.
03:06:24.000 It's just.
03:06:25.000 All these people are super corrupt.
03:06:27.000 Now, here's the reality.
03:06:28.000 They're just going to lie and claim we're corrupt.
03:06:30.000 They're going to, like, the left has done this to us for some time, falsely claiming that we took money from Israel or Russia or whatever.
03:06:37.000 None of it's true.
03:06:38.000 So there's no real point.
03:06:39.000 We live in this.
03:06:40.000 This is why I'm kind of like, I'm just not going to be mad about it.
03:06:42.000 The people who follow Destiny genuinely think we got paid by the Russians to lie about America and promote the war, which is just, it's not real.
03:06:49.000 You can't convince them otherwise.
03:06:51.000 Meanwhile, I don't think Destiny's getting paid by foreign governments or anything, but he's certainly going to espouse.
03:06:55.000 These lies and manipulations.
03:06:57.000 But then you've got these people who took this paid trip without disclosing it.
03:07:00.000 You've got these people who are secretly on the tee to the government without disclosing it.
03:07:05.000 A handful of prominent right wing individuals were hired by the Pentagon for the purpose of espousing pro Pentagon messages and pro war messages, and they're not disclosing it.
03:07:13.000 It's just raw corruption across the board.
03:07:16.000 I don't think, you know, when I see these people working with the government without disclosure, I don't care if you work for the government, I don't care if you get paid to go on a trip.
03:07:22.000 You got to disclose it.
03:07:23.000 You got to be honest about what you're doing.
03:07:26.000 But when I see all of this, I'm just like, yeah, it's no different from the woman whose husband died, and she's like, I'm a widow, and she posts a video being like, please click me.
03:07:34.000 Everyone's going to claim that they're doing the right thing, but when the money comes down, we'll take it.
03:07:37.000 And I've made this point a long time ago.
03:07:39.000 I guarantee you, I can go to a leftist and say, I'll give you $50,000 right now to make a video claiming you've reconsidered your position on Trump.
03:07:46.000 And they'll say, Yes, in two seconds.
03:07:48.000 Some dude with like 10,000 followers who's doing a Jubilee run, I'll be like, I'll tell you what, I will write a check for $50,000 right now.
03:07:55.000 I want you to change your opinions.
03:07:57.000 And they're going to say, Yes, absolutely done.
03:07:58.000 Nope.
03:07:58.000 Nope.
03:07:59.000 Thank you, sir.
03:07:59.000 Guaranteed.
03:08:01.000 And I think the same is true for many people on the right as well.
03:08:03.000 Not everybody, but there's enough that exists.
03:08:04.000 One of the things I like about Jesus and the story of Jesus is that he refused to recant.
03:08:09.000 What he believed was real, even on his deathbed, like for money, for survival.
03:08:14.000 He was like, I mean, I can't lie to you.
03:08:15.000 What I see, what I believe, these things have all happened to me.
03:08:18.000 This is all real.
03:08:20.000 And it's like, man, when you're facing the maybe he was nihilistic and was just that why he was ready to just let himself be destroyed by people because he wouldn't play their game.
03:08:28.000 But maybe if you get enough people that stand up and do that or are willing to do that, the system really changes for the good.
03:08:34.000 You can't be tempted by money and neither can the rest of your community.
03:08:39.000 So, you know, this is the reality, right?
03:08:45.000 Evil exists.
03:08:47.000 There's very few good.
03:08:49.000 There's very little good.
03:08:50.000 That's just true.
03:08:52.000 I've met Charlie Cook's dead.
03:08:54.000 They killed him.
03:08:55.000 They're dancing on his grave.
03:08:57.000 People on the right are dancing on his grave, too.
03:09:00.000 I just don't know what to say as I think about this philosophically.
03:09:04.000 You've got people who claim to have been friends with Charlie dancing on his grave, you've got people on the left dancing on his grave.
03:09:10.000 And the people on the right doing it are asserting themselves as moral arbiters of Charlie's legacy at the same time.
03:09:16.000 And I'm just like, man, people are, you know, I don't know what the right word is, but.
03:09:23.000 Evil.
03:09:24.000 I don't know if.
03:09:25.000 I'm not trying to say evil in this regard because there are evil people.
03:09:30.000 Sheepish, you know?
03:09:32.000 They're like.
03:09:33.000 No, I'd say evil at this point.
03:09:35.000 I mean, look what they're doing to Erica Kirk.
03:09:36.000 She's still alive.
03:09:37.000 Yeah, but I'm looking past it.
03:09:41.000 There are evil people.
03:09:42.000 There are evil people doing evil things to Erica Kirk.
03:09:44.000 There are evil people who are gloating about Charlie.
03:09:47.000 But I'm saying all people, with very few exceptions, are coyotes, is probably the better way to put it.
03:09:53.000 Meaning they howl at night, they look for food, and they're predictable.
03:09:57.000 When you see these people on the right taking secret trips and then trying to justify why the trip was good, well, look, you got a medium X account, like mid tier with a couple hundred thousand followers.
03:10:09.000 You get offered an all expense paid trip to Poland.
03:10:11.000 It sounds fucking exciting and amazing.
03:10:13.000 You don't want to tell people what you were doing, you'll get attacked for it.
03:10:16.000 You get found out, you better attack everybody else.
03:10:19.000 Data Republican is going the fuck off because she took a job or a special government employee position with the Department of War without disclosing it.
03:10:28.000 I didn't know anything about that.
03:10:29.000 What happened?
03:10:30.000 So, the Department of War has hired a handful of right wing personalities for the purpose of disseminating pro Pentagon views of things.
03:10:39.000 So, we don't know if they're paid roles or not.
03:10:40.000 It's still not been disclosed.
03:10:42.000 And Data Republican is mad at me saying, I called her a liar, which I didn't know you used the words.
03:10:46.000 The video was titled, They were.
03:10:47.000 Titled, They Were Lying the Whole Time, which I think is more so a reference to the Pentagon having employed people, but not her specifically.
03:10:54.000 And I think the only thing I said was I read a report saying she did not disclose this job, which she did not disclose.
03:11:00.000 So here's the story: Data Republican took her role at the government, did not disclose it, and is mad that I read that report and told people.
03:11:08.000 The amount of corruption that we are swimming in is fucking untenable.
03:11:14.000 Okay.
03:11:15.000 But there are, I'm talking to another guy at the same time, this liberal guy that I know claims he's a conservative.
03:11:20.000 And I keep telling him, just watch the show, just watch Tim Kest IRL.
03:11:23.000 And he goes, not until you call out Trump.
03:11:25.000 And I said, you watched Trump.
03:11:28.000 Me call out Trump on this show.
03:11:30.000 We went on this whole thing about the war being bad.
03:11:34.000 And I just said, listen, you don't want the truth.
03:11:36.000 You want to be angry.
03:11:38.000 And this is the reality for most of these people.
03:11:41.000 And this is why the Democrats exist the way they do.
03:11:43.000 And it's why the Republicans largely did exist the way they did for so long.
03:11:46.000 Most people do not actually give a shit.
03:11:50.000 If you go to the majority of people on the right and say, I'll write you a check for $100,000 to say Trump bad, they will suck your dick on the spot.
03:12:00.000 Bot for that hundred grand.
03:12:01.000 You're right, Clinton.
03:12:03.000 You're right.
03:12:05.000 Such a wrestle with integrity to avoid getting it.
03:12:08.000 It's so easy for them to be like, I'll give you $80,000 to say this product is great.
03:12:12.000 And it's like, God.
03:12:14.000 Let me put it like this.
03:12:15.000 Don't do it.
03:12:16.000 Honest question.
03:12:17.000 Honest question.
03:12:18.000 What other shows exist?
03:12:20.000 And this is a literal honest question.
03:12:23.000 Ian and I argue all the time.
03:12:25.000 We're friends.
03:12:26.000 Ian's on the show for this reason because we want someone to tell us we are wrong sometimes.
03:12:31.000 We want Ian to say, Phil, I was right.
03:12:33.000 You shouldn't have been.
03:12:33.000 We want.
03:12:34.000 There to be a struggle debate, differing opinions.
03:12:39.000 And so, one of the challenges with the show is that liberals don't like coming on the show.
03:12:45.000 But Ian, of course, has a different worldview, doesn't follow the same things that we follow.
03:12:48.000 So, we appreciate that kind of conversation.
03:12:50.000 Are there any shows that do that?
03:12:53.000 That's a real question.
03:12:54.000 Because I watch a lot of these shows, and it tends to be like a bell curve of similar ideas and very little direct argument between the personalities.
03:13:03.000 Most shows and art in Hollywood was.
03:13:06.000 Would shut it down in a heartbeat.
03:13:08.000 Any kind of real.
03:13:09.000 The five, they yell at Jessica Tarlev all the time.
03:13:13.000 Go more Joe Rogan?
03:13:15.000 Well, but Joe Rogan's a one on one show.
03:13:19.000 Funny enough, Abby Sulp's show on CNN, they have been doing that.
03:13:23.000 That's true.
03:13:23.000 Good point.
03:13:24.000 But I think it's a lot easier to get a conservative to hop on.
03:13:28.000 It is.
03:13:29.000 The other way is different.
03:13:30.000 But the point I'm making is when you have the left saying like it's a MAGA show and they won't watch it, and then you're literally like, I don't think these people have ever actually seen the show.
03:13:41.000 Like, Ian is the easiest standout who is not a conservative, but Media Matters calls him, calls you conservative.
03:13:48.000 Didn't they do like a report recently, like saying he, like highlighting some extremist position that you had?
03:13:54.000 Anyway, just to wrap it up, I'm saying all these things not in anger, but sort of in acceptance.
03:14:01.000 When I saw these person, as people we know and follow, took a trip without disclosing it and then personally attacked me for reporting on it, mad that we would dare call them out.
03:14:12.000 It's the same thing I saw at Occupy.
03:14:14.000 Tim.
03:14:15.000 Cover for us and call out them because we're better.
03:14:18.000 Fuck off.
03:14:19.000 Dude, this aligns with my metaphor this is a DD party.
03:14:22.000 You're the tank.
03:14:24.000 Don't let the enemy taunt you because if it taunts you, then you're not focused on the real danger that's trying to get me, who's the healer.
03:14:30.000 So you got to don't let the enemy taunt you.
03:14:32.000 That's this anger online shit.
03:14:34.000 Well, it's such a, but my point largely is that I think humans are generally just like maybe 80% looking for resources.
03:14:45.000 Very NPC, very simple.
03:14:47.000 The smaller percent are organizers, are leaders who have a vision and want to make change.
03:14:52.000 Within a portion of that leadership, there are evil people that are willing to manipulate and extort and exploit to make the changes they want.
03:14:59.000 And then there are what I would describe as the good people that are trying to convince, you know, apply your will in the direction through logic and reason.
03:15:12.000 So I think that means that in the pie chart of politics, There is only the tiniest sliver of people who are genuinely like, can we do better?
03:15:21.000 And can I convince you through being correct?
03:15:23.000 Charlie was one of those people.
03:15:24.000 And he was massive.
03:15:25.000 They killed him.
03:15:27.000 And now you've got, and now you really see it.
03:15:30.000 People who claim to be his friends are now dancing on his grave, making money and exploiting his death.
03:15:35.000 And people who hated him are dancing on his grave and singing songs mocking his death.
03:15:39.000 But we do have to get one more caller.
03:15:40.000 So, Julian, do you want to shout anything out?
03:15:44.000 I'll just end with this.
03:15:46.000 Tim, absolutely, you have a point.
03:15:51.000 Your honor, you broke up.
03:15:53.000 Oh, so hello, hello, what happened?
03:15:55.000 Yeah, you said you got a point, that was all we got.
03:15:57.000 Yeah, oh, yeah, I don't know what happened, but anyway, I'll just I'll dip with this.
03:16:01.000 You make excellent points, Timmy, as you can see.
03:16:03.000 And what's funny is that even me, myself, as a viewer, I was challenging you just today.
03:16:07.000 So obviously, this isn't one echo chamber, you're entirely correct.
03:16:10.000 But also, remember, there's there is such a thing as righteous anger, and I assure you, Charlie, you kind of hesitate to admit this, but he absolutely was your friend.
03:16:17.000 And if you were the one who took that shot that day, I promise you, I have full confidence that Charlie Cook would go to war for you, and frankly, you deserve it.
03:16:24.000 You owe him the same.
03:16:25.000 And I hope you recognize that, sir.
03:16:27.000 You all have a blessed day.
03:16:29.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
03:16:30.000 Amen.
03:16:30.000 Oh, that was the last caller.
03:16:31.000 The other guy was Mark.
03:16:33.000 I figured, but I thought he wanted to talk about something.
03:16:35.000 Mark, you want to talk about anything else, though?
03:16:38.000 Thanks for calling in, my friends.
03:16:40.000 It's been fun.
03:16:41.000 Tomorrow's going to be fun as well.
03:16:42.000 Let's see who we've got coming on.
03:16:44.000 We got, is it David Whited?
03:16:48.000 Whited?
03:16:49.000 Well, and then it's going to be fun Friday.
03:16:51.000 We've got Josh Dawes.
03:16:53.000 He works at the Blaze.
03:16:54.000 He also made that AI short film.
03:16:55.000 And we're going to talk about the AI stuff.
03:16:57.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.
03:16:58.000 But, James, always great to have you.
03:17:00.000 I appreciate you guys having me.
03:17:01.000 That was a lot of fun.
03:17:02.000 Yeah, good show.
03:17:02.000 Good show.
03:17:03.000 Thank you guys so much.
03:17:04.000 Good show.
03:17:05.000 This Friday is going to be crazy.
03:17:07.000 This Sunday, I should say, with the Tim Pool show.
03:17:09.000 We've actually, we're filming two.
03:17:12.000 We've got the DMT laser guy coming.
03:17:13.000 I want to be on.
03:17:14.000 I got a.
03:17:15.000 It's a one on one interview show, bro.
03:17:16.000 But maybe Watt's going to stick around if he wants to for IRL.
03:17:19.000 I got the laser.
03:17:20.000 I can bring one in.
03:17:21.000 But we've also got the flat earth guy, Dave.
03:17:24.000 I don't know him.
03:17:25.000 Dave, the flat earth guy.
03:17:25.000 He's the best flat earther.
03:17:27.000 He's like the number one, right?
03:17:28.000 Yep.
03:17:28.000 Yeah.
03:17:29.000 And he's one of the smartest I've seen.
03:17:30.000 It's really incredible stuff.
03:17:32.000 I don't agree with him, but I think it'll be really fun to just kind of have him go off.
03:17:35.000 One on one?
03:17:36.000 Yeah.
03:17:37.000 Oh, it's going to be sick.
03:17:37.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.
03:17:38.000 Dude, the views on that new channel, The Tim Pool Show?
03:17:42.000 Oh, it's unbelievable.
03:17:42.000 Well, there's a few things.
03:17:45.000 It's once a week.
03:17:47.000 So when we post a video to all four channels, and there's 2 million, 2 million, and 1.5 million.
03:17:56.000 With IRL, we do a show every day.
03:17:58.000 So let's say, here's the math.
03:18:01.000 Let's say there's 100 people to watch a video and you put up one video.
03:18:04.000 That one video gets 100 views.
03:18:05.000 Right.
03:18:05.000 Let's say you put up three videos.
03:18:07.000 Each video gets 50 views because one person watches all three, a handful watch all three.
03:18:11.000 But so your viewership is higher, but each video is lower.
03:18:15.000 We're doing one video per week and we're massively promoting it across the channel.
03:18:18.000 So it's easy to build up the viewership.
03:18:20.000 That being said, the Men Don't Need Therapy one is still just getting like 30,000 a day.
03:18:25.000 Yeah, still.
03:18:26.000 I mean, I mean, still.
03:18:28.000 I think the channel has like less than 100,000 subs are fake.
03:18:32.000 Well, yes, but those videos are posted.
03:18:35.000 Not just on that channel.
03:18:36.000 Yeah, yeah, no, no, I understand.
03:18:37.000 I understand that you've operated.
03:18:38.000 I get that.
03:18:39.000 Right.
03:18:39.000 If you go to TimCast IRL, it'll appear in the feed for 2 million something subscribers.
03:18:43.000 So, technically, we are effectively combining all of the subscribers, which is probably around 5 million unique or maybe 4 million unique.
03:18:51.000 So, and with one a week, it's easy to get the.
03:18:54.000 So, I mean, the Jason Ellis one we put up after IRL didn't do as well.
03:18:59.000 What was that channel before?
03:19:00.000 The Tim Pool show.
03:19:02.000 Has it always been that?
03:19:03.000 So, I recently got it from Google.
03:19:05.000 YouTube gave me at Tim Pool finally.
03:19:07.000 And then I just put some non news related videos on it periodically.
03:19:10.000 Some of them got really big.
03:19:12.000 I did like a Taylor Swift commentary, like a half a million.
03:19:14.000 And then we officially launched the Tim Pool show, get the chairs behind us.
03:19:16.000 I mean, it's still, even still, okay, I understand that you guys are collaborating between all the channels and stuff like that, but even that channel hitting 100,000 followers is still significant.
03:19:26.000 Oh, yeah, it's about to crack 100, probably, you know, tomorrow, whatever.
03:19:29.000 But the funny thing is, what's really exciting is the people who hate me.
03:19:34.000 I've seen people tweeting, like, I can't fucking stand Tim Pool's videos.
03:19:37.000 I did watch his new show, though, it's actually really good.
03:19:39.000 Oh, no.
03:19:39.000 And I'm like, but it's like, it's low volume and it's just an interview, so it's not a whole lot of me.
03:19:44.000 It's for, Certain people, it's for them, man.
03:19:46.000 Some people don't like live streams.
03:19:48.000 Some people like one topic in a 15 to 20 minute video.
03:19:51.000 And other people love the sit down, long form, slow, slow burn.
03:19:55.000 Oh, the Chloe Carmichael one's going to crack a million.
03:19:58.000 I love that it's Chloe.
03:20:00.000 Ping Trip did that video of.