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00:00:24.000 Hey guys, Loudoun County High School students walk out of class over transgender bathrooms as furious kids demand male and female only spaces due to massive safety risk.

00:00:35.000 A group of 50 to 100 students at Woodgrove High School in Purcellville, Virginia walked out of class on Wednesday in protest at trans bathroom policies.

00:00:44.000 This Loudoun County School District in 2021 voted for non-binary, gender-fluid, and trans students to use the school bathrooms and locker rooms of their choice.

00:00:53.000 The students on Wednesday demanded the overturn of the policy.

00:00:57.000 They were met by a small group of counter-protesters insisting that the existing policy should stay in place.

00:01:03.000 And you know the counter-protesters were?

00:01:06.000 Who were the counter protesters?

00:01:07.000 Steph.

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00:01:08.000 They were the teachers who are so perverted that they want to make sure that all the girls are forced to wash their hands after they have their periods in front of boys in the bathroom. 0.99

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00:02:41.000 But, uh, this past weekend, I got to meet one of the moms. 0.88

00:02:46.000 Of one of the students who helped lead this protest, and I was just... I was so excited.

00:02:54.000 I was so excited because that is so amazing to me, that there are people who are standing up for what they believe in, whose teenage kids are doing it, who are speaking out in fear that they could lose their jobs and all of this stuff.

00:03:06.000 The courage is...

00:03:09.000 I was honored to have met a person who, despite their fears of losing their job and all of this, were willing to speak out, proud of their family, of their kids, for what they were doing.

00:03:20.000 So that was really awesome.

00:03:21.000 And let this be the kickoff to one of the big reasons why I think schools are awful.

00:03:26.000 And we should totally get rid of all of them.

00:03:29.000 And it really is simple.

00:03:31.000 It is industrialized, institutionalized learning facilities that treats people like products, and cogs in a machine.

00:03:39.000 School is prison.

00:03:40.000 I think it was Michael Malice who said that.

00:03:42.000 Schools are effectively prisons, especially modern high schools in cities, where you go in, the doors are all locked, and you have to go through a metal detector, and if you leave, the cops arrest you.

00:03:50.000 Not kidding.

00:03:51.000 That's that song, Party Hard, by Andrew W.K.

00:03:53.000 If you, uh... Like a school cell, a penitentiary, a jail cell.

00:03:56.000 I'm 15 years old.

00:03:59.000 My friends and I, mostly not me, but one of our friends was a rollerblader, went door-to-door to raise money to get a skate park built at our local park.

00:04:08.000 All the kids would hang out there and skate every day, and it would damage the planters.

00:04:12.000 They're made of plastic, they're recycled garbage bags into the, you know, park planters.

00:04:16.000 But they're so perfect for skateboarding.

00:04:18.000 So we would all skate there every day, and it was awesome, we would do our tricks, and they didn't like it.

00:04:22.000 So this kid raised the money to build a skate park.

00:04:25.000 Well, I wasn't in high school.

00:04:27.000 I had dropped out.

00:04:28.000 I was doing homeschooling, a correspondence thing for the most part, never finished.

00:04:31.000 And when me and my brother went to the park to skate at the park that we helped, and I'm not saying we did the most, someone else did all the heavy lifting, but we were a component of it.

00:04:41.000 They kicked us out.

00:04:43.000 Who's they?

00:04:43.000 The park administrator said, you can't skate here.

00:04:46.000 And I said, why?

00:04:47.000 And he goes, because you're supposed to be in school.

00:04:49.000 And I'm like, we're not truants.

00:04:52.000 We have a correspondence program we're doing.

00:04:53.000 So we're just outside.

00:04:54.000 And they're like, yeah, well, you being here is going to convince other kids to drop out as well.

00:04:58.000 So you can't skate here. 0.99

00:04:59.000 Oh, that's bullshit. 1.00

00:05:01.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:05:02.000 The machine, it is broken. 1.00

00:05:04.000 I would get stopped by cops when I'm 16, and they'd be like, why aren't you in school?

00:05:08.000 And I'm like, I'm homeschooled.

00:05:09.000 And they would go, and they would drive off.

00:05:11.000 And other kids who weren't in school, the parents would get arrested.

00:05:16.000 No kidding.

00:05:16.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:05:16.000 I remember when I was in college and I was at Sarah Lawrence College, which is in Bronxville, New York and I was walking to school because I lived off campus and I was at what like 19 or 20 or whatever and I was walking to school and this big white van pulled over and opened the door.

00:05:33.000 The door slid open and this guy goes, get in the van and I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:05:36.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

00:05:37.000 They're like, you're supposed to be at school. 1.00

00:05:39.000 And I was like, I'm in college.

00:05:40.000 I don't have to get in the van.

00:05:42.000 And I looked in the van and there were all these kids in there just looking all depressed.

00:05:46.000 They were getting, you know, carted off to school in the middle of the day.

00:05:50.000 It was like lunchtime, you know, and I was rushing to my class. 0.97

00:05:53.000 I will agree, fuck the machine, but I don't think that means that all machines are broken. 0.98

00:05:58.000 No, I didn't say that. 0.99

00:05:59.000 And that the education machine, that we can't have a functioning educational machine, because I think we can.

00:06:03.000 Dude, kids are traumatized by their teachers every single day, and...

00:06:09.000 Look, man, I had one teacher that I can name that I thought was really, really great, and she's an awesome person, and after Occupy Wall Street, she messaged me saying, I'm proud of you, and I'm like, that meant a lot to me, because she was a good teacher.

00:06:22.000 And then all the rest of them were either varying degrees of indifferent or antagonistic, and they were traumatizing kids.

00:06:31.000 I had several different educational experiences.

00:06:34.000 I went to public school most of the time.

00:06:37.000 And then after eighth grade, I went to Catholic school for two years.

00:06:41.000 And then after that, I went to a private Quaker school in Philadelphia for two years.

00:06:45.000 And the public school was a total disaster.

00:06:48.000 It was like a squash machine.

00:06:51.000 You'd go into school and they'd beat you down and squash you down until you felt terrible about yourself.

00:06:56.000 And I was bullied.

00:06:57.000 It was just an absolute nightmare.

00:06:59.000 The teachers at my school were the bullies.

00:07:01.000 The teachers were horrible and the other kids were always trying to beat me up and stuff. 0.93

00:07:06.000 It was terrible.

00:07:07.000 There were these kids and they'd be like, Libby, we're going to meet you at three.

00:07:11.000 We're going to beat you up.

00:07:12.000 And I'd be like, okay, but I'm going to take the bus home because my parents are way scarier than you. 0.97

00:07:17.000 And if I don't get home, they're actually going to beat me up.

00:07:20.000 I'm not going to stick around.

00:07:22.000 And they kept being mad that I wasn't there after school for them to beat me up, but whatever.

00:07:27.000 But the best school I went to out of, you know, and I went to college and I went to grad school, the best school I went to was the two years at Private Quaker School in Philadelphia, and it was hard.

00:07:37.000 I was on academic probation the entire time, but every teacher that I had And this was not true when my brother went there later.

00:07:45.000 Every teacher that I had took us all very seriously.

00:07:49.000 They engaged in questions.

00:07:52.000 It was very Socratic.

00:07:53.000 You know, when I expressed an interest in Kafka, one of my teachers was like, do you want to do an independent study in that?

00:07:58.000 We're not going to be covering it.

00:08:00.000 Yes, I would like to do that.

00:08:01.000 We spoke separately about it.

00:08:02.000 I studied philosophy.

00:08:04.000 I studied politics.

00:08:05.000 I studied drama.

00:08:06.000 I studied all of this really interesting stuff.

00:08:09.000 The best teacher I ever had was the music teacher at that school, a man named Larry Honig.

00:08:13.000 who I was in choir there and took us so seriously that we felt like we were part

00:08:19.000 of a professional organization and it was like very important.

00:08:22.000 Other than the teachers at that school that I had and not all of them,

00:08:26.000 but other than a couple of teachers at that school that I had, I think the rest of the educational system

00:08:30.000 was not at all helpful.

00:08:32.000 It was those two years that gave me pretty much everything I needed

00:08:36.000 in terms of a work ethic, taking myself seriously,

00:08:40.000 learning how to find and discover my own passions.

00:08:43.000 You know one of the things I learned in school is it doesn't, all through public school, it doesn't matter what you know, it matters who you know and fitting in and being popular. 0.98

00:08:51.000 That was all that fucking mattered because as soon as I became popular I realized no one gives a shit if I know this stuff. 0.96

00:08:55.000 I can pretty much jive with teachers. 0.98

00:08:56.000 I was never once popular.

00:08:58.000 I was always the total outcast.

00:08:59.000 Every time, forever and ever.

00:09:00.000 When I was like 14, I was like, I don't care about my grades anymore.

00:09:03.000 I want to be popular.

00:09:04.000 That was all I cared about.

00:09:05.000 But that's fine.

00:09:05.000 That's fine.

00:09:06.000 Being respected and liked amongst your peers and wanting social acceptance is a fine thing.

00:09:10.000 It's a huge part of success in real life, too.

00:09:11.000 It's an issue of what are you doing to achieve it?

00:09:14.000 And schools don't foster anything to achieve it.

00:09:16.000 Sometimes it's sports.

00:09:17.000 That's good.

00:09:18.000 Here's the first problem with mechanized learning facilities.

00:09:23.000 What happens when one kid knows all of his multiplications perfectly? 0.99

00:09:28.000 Sit down and shut up. 0.98

00:09:29.000 Other kids are learning. 0.99

00:09:30.000 The other kids get annoyed with the kid because he's too smart.

00:09:32.000 They're like, know it all over here.

00:09:34.000 Won't stop raising his hand.

00:09:35.000 I experienced it first hand.

00:09:35.000 It's not even that.

00:09:36.000 You don't have to raise your hand when you know it. 0.98

00:09:37.000 It's just that you get bored as fuck because you're just sitting there and you're like, I know the thing. 0.99

00:09:41.000 And then you get in trouble for it. 0.99

00:09:43.000 I got in trouble so many times for being able to do math in my head.

00:09:45.000 And I have no answer for this.

00:09:47.000 Yeah, show your work.

00:09:48.000 I actually told the teacher, I was smarter than her.

00:09:52.000 Because I told the story before about negatives and I can see I can like visualize that I got a friday detention just like without any emotion They call it they call detention second chance.

00:10:01.000 That's what it was called.

00:10:02.000 Oh, that's insidious insulting Aaron what was your school life like?

00:10:02.000 Oh my goodness.

00:10:07.000 I grew up in Canada, and so Canada's different because there's way less people and there is more resources put into the system.

00:10:14.000 I think in part because there's way less people that they have to take care of.

00:10:18.000 And in Canada, there are higher taxes.

00:10:21.000 And also, in Canada, you don't have the stratified system.

00:10:24.000 Private schools, when I was growing up, were very, very rare.

00:10:26.000 It was basically like there was a private Jewish school, there was a private Christian school, but everyone else went to public school.

00:10:31.000 For me, it was great.

00:10:32.000 I had one bad teacher that actually me and my friends rebelled against and he was removed because he was so terrible.

00:10:37.000 But otherwise, I had great teachers and I've always gone to public school and I think, you know, yes, I couldn't define photosynthesis tonight.

00:10:44.000 Although after I thought about it, I think I got it.

00:10:46.000 But anyway, it's too late now.

00:10:47.000 Regardless, I had a good experience and I want everyone to have at least a good experience.

00:10:52.000 And I do agree that things have changed now.

00:10:54.000 We need to teach people more practical skills.

00:10:56.000 That's not happening.

00:10:57.000 And I also know that the studies show that homeschooling does lead to better results.

00:11:01.000 That's documented.

00:11:03.000 But the problem is, that's not scalable.

00:11:04.000 Like, not everyone can be homeschooled.

00:11:06.000 In fact, for many kids, the problem is like, what if their home situation, not just in their own home, but around them, is really, really bad?

00:11:14.000 And school is actually a refuge for them from a really tough environment.

00:11:18.000 That's a big problem if we're saying school is going to serve as like a juvenile therapeutic.

00:11:24.000 It does though sometimes.

00:11:25.000 It should not.

00:11:26.000 But it could.

00:11:27.000 Why not?

00:11:28.000 Because otherwise you're leaving these kids totally alone.

00:11:29.000 The inverse argument is kids who live in a good house are abused by the teachers.

00:11:34.000 So just because you're arguing a teacher could be good doesn't mean they're good.

00:11:37.000 Do you think for the most part teachers are abusive?

00:11:40.000 Yes, 100%.

00:11:42.000 All of them.

00:11:43.000 This again comes down to our perspective.

00:11:45.000 You have these generalizations about how people are, and obviously they're from experience.

00:11:50.000 Mine has been totally different.

00:11:51.000 So how do we reconcile these two totally different worldviews and the nature of people?

00:11:56.000 I think you come from a leftist view, and my opinion of your view is naivety.

00:12:04.000 What does abusive mean?

00:12:05.000 A teacher who is cold and indifferent towards a student.

00:12:11.000 is abusive.

00:12:12.000 A kid who is going into a school where they're neglected, ignored, talked down to, treated inferior, that is not a good situation.

00:12:21.000 That is the overwhelming majority of American schools.

00:12:23.000 That's why it is generationally a trope. 0.88

00:12:26.000 School sucks is a phrase that is known to people.

00:12:31.000 There are good teachers But if you ask a teacher or a teacher's union, they're going to claim they're good. 0.96

00:12:37.000 If you ask the students, they're all going to say the same thing. 0.99

00:12:39.000 Miss so-and-so sucks. 0.99

00:12:41.000 Why do the kids hate the teacher? 0.99

00:12:43.000 That's so weird.

00:12:44.000 Why is it that when I was a little kid, I hated my teachers, except for one, but my guitar teacher was awesome?

00:12:51.000 Private guitar teacher.

00:12:52.000 My mom paid him money.

00:12:53.000 The guy wanted to make sure that I was having a good time and I was learning guitar.

00:12:55.000 And so when he said, I should learn Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, I said, I want to learn The Kids Aren't Alright by The Offspring.

00:13:00.000 And he laughed and he said, good luck, kid.

00:13:02.000 Let's get it.

00:13:03.000 And then he said, he played it for me.

00:13:05.000 He looked at the tab book.

00:13:06.000 He said, give it a shot.

00:13:07.000 All right.

00:13:08.000 Next week when you come back, you're going to play me this riff.

00:13:10.000 And I was like, this is cool.

00:13:11.000 This guy, this guy was fun.

00:13:12.000 He was, we were rocking.

00:13:13.000 We were having a blast.

00:13:14.000 And then ultimately I was like, I don't know why I don't want to do lessons.

00:13:16.000 I just started playing and I learned what I wanted to learn.

00:13:18.000 But that was a, that was a good dude.

00:13:20.000 That was a good dude.

00:13:21.000 Why is it that so many kids hate their teachers? 0.98

00:13:24.000 Why is it a trope that a kid will say, my teacher sucks?

00:13:26.000 Why is it that so many parents are like, your teacher doesn't suck, you're just a little... Why are they not believing the kids when the kids are saying the schools are bad and they're causing them problems? 0.93

00:13:35.000 When we're looking at a continuing problem of younger generations with scores dropping in schools, the US slipping, it's clearly broken! 0.99

00:13:44.000 Yeah, there's this low-hanging fruit shit where the teacher has to cater to the weakest student and then the smart ones are waiting for it to finish. 0.98

00:13:50.000 What were you going to say? 0.99

00:13:51.000 Well, it's also a reflection of the culture it's in.

00:13:54.000 And right now we have a culture where kids' brains are being warped by phones and their attention spans are just negligible.

00:14:02.000 I'm lucky my brain developed before really cell phones and the internet were a thing.

00:14:05.000 So I'm lucky that way.

00:14:06.000 And that's an issue.

00:14:07.000 But the answer to me is not punishing teachers for that and punishing the school system for that.

00:14:11.000 For me, it's doubling down on actually making the system reflect this changing time and putting more resources into it.

00:14:18.000 I mean, look, either you're a good teacher or you're a bad teacher.

00:14:21.000 That's just pretty clear.

00:14:22.000 But to what extent are some of these struggles in schools a reflection of there being way too big classrooms, kids that need more support, special needs kids don't have it, and there's not enough resources?

00:14:33.000 And if there were resources, I think you would see a major difference there.

00:14:36.000 So what happens if, um... Here's a question for you.

00:14:39.000 Real quick.

00:14:40.000 Somebody opens a, uh, uh, um... Let's just, let's, uh, uh, uh, uh... A Biltong shop. 1.00

00:14:47.000 And they make the worst fucking Biltong. 1.00

00:14:50.000 In fact, everyone in the neighborhood says, John's Biltong sucks. 1.00

00:14:54.000 What happens to that Biltong shop? 0.98

00:14:56.000 It closes down.

00:14:56.000 So why won't we do that for the small business then?

00:15:00.000 Aaron Matic comes up and says let's give them more money.

00:15:03.000 Well yes, but let's address what the problem is and try to fix it.

00:15:07.000 I mean that's what you would do if you're doing genuine oversight.

00:15:09.000 So why won't we do that for the small business then?

00:15:12.000 Why is it that the business just fails?

00:15:14.000 Because it's a private enterprise and we do have a public system where certain rights,

00:15:19.000 like certain services are deemed to be so important to the public good that it's established

00:15:23.000 that we provide them, like education.

00:15:25.000 And I agree, but clearly, if the government says, we want to distribute, frozen on a biltong is, we're eating it, it's South African style drinking.

00:15:33.000 It's fantastic.

00:15:34.000 It's really good.

00:15:35.000 And so, if the state says, we want someone to pave the roads, And then a month later, there's buckets of molasses poured in the streets, and we're like, hold on there a minute.

00:15:46.000 This is not what we paid you to do.

00:15:48.000 All of a sudden, you're coming up and be like, I propose we give them more money to address the problem and figure out if we can do it.

00:15:53.000 Well, we need to make classrooms smaller, but the problem about learning is it's opt-in.

00:15:57.000 If a kid doesn't want to learn it, then you can't make them learn it.

00:16:00.000 They'll just sit there and wait for you to stop talking and then go do stuff.

00:16:04.000 I disagree.

00:16:04.000 Kids can be made to want to learn.

00:16:07.000 Maybe.

00:16:07.000 You can build cultures around creating... Ian, you're gonna hear my idea and you're gonna be like, Tim's right.

00:16:13.000 You ready for this one?

00:16:14.000 Oh yeah.

00:16:15.000 Treat schools like RPG video games.

00:16:17.000 I would love to.

00:16:18.000 Now here's how it works.

00:16:19.000 When you start school, there's no grade levels.

00:16:22.000 There are class levels.

00:16:23.000 And the students have math level one.

00:16:27.000 They have reading level two.

00:16:28.000 They have English level three.

00:16:30.000 This is like a Montessori program.

00:16:32.000 And so there you go.

00:16:33.000 And so what you do is, When you decide to take the test, you make it fun.

00:16:38.000 And then you can have the teacher, in like a Kung Fu outfit, being like, you think you can best me to advance to level 5 math?

00:16:46.000 Take the test!

00:16:47.000 The kid can choose to take the test whenever they want, and if they pass, they advance to the next level.

00:16:51.000 Then, students aren't saying, what grade are you in?

00:16:53.000 I'm in 5th grade, I'm in 6th grade. 0.92

00:16:55.000 It's one kid's- So here's a problem, I knew a kid, super fucking good at basketball. 1.00

00:16:59.000 Super dumb as a box of rocks. 0.99

00:17:01.000 So they held him back two years, and I'm like, the kid's clearly gifted when it comes to physical capabilities in sports. 1.00

00:17:07.000 Why are you treating him like a moron instead of... So what would happen? 0.99

00:17:10.000 In this school, he would be gym level 12, the star of the basketball team, and he'd be math and reading level 3 or whatever.

00:17:17.000 And he'd be like, yeah, I try really hard with the math stuff.

00:17:19.000 I'm working on it.

00:17:20.000 But everyone would be like, yeah, but you're like the best basketball player and everyone knows it.

00:17:23.000 And so you let the kids advance, and what this does is not only does it give them a gamified system of wanting to learn, hey man, this next level, you're gonna get a free pizza at Pizza Hut, whatever it is we do.

00:17:36.000 You're gonna- you're gonna get, you know, to the gold tier, and then you're gonna be- Get tokens that you can use to check out books.

00:17:41.000 And this is why video games work, because it triggers dopamine.

00:17:44.000 It does.

00:17:45.000 You give someone a goal, you give them a visible, mathematical, choice-based opportunity, and they take it.

00:17:51.000 So what do they do? 0.99

00:17:52.000 They sit in their fucking computers for 16 hours playing video games. 0.99

00:17:55.000 Do the same thing for school, let kids decide when they want to try to advance, and a kid might fail, and they can be like, you can literally take the test again right now if you want, and then advance! 0.99

00:18:04.000 Okay, so you don't want to abolish the school system.

00:18:06.000 You want to change it to meet kids' needs and to be more realistic for that.

00:18:10.000 Okay, sure.

00:18:11.000 I'm fine with that.

00:18:12.000 The first thing we've got to do is we've got to get rid of the... There is a massive cancerous tumor that is the Department of Education.

00:18:21.000 It is a money vacuum that homogenizes things in bad ways.

00:18:26.000 You've got to cut the cancer off and start a new one.

00:18:29.000 So I was just thinking, you were talking about how much money is spent... But would you agree with the premise of having some department at all?

00:18:33.000 Like of education to... We don't need a federal department of education at all.

00:18:37.000 So it should be what, at the state level, like... No, no, no, no.

00:18:38.000 Coin toss.

00:18:39.000 It could go either way.

00:18:41.000 If the proposal is, we will abolish the DOE right now and suspend all funding.

00:18:46.000 Wait one year, and then someone else can propose a program which we vote on and pass legislation.

00:18:53.000 I'm totally fine with that.

00:18:54.000 So you were talking about how someone was saying that we spend more on education than on the military.

00:18:59.000 on the military.

00:19:01.000 So in 2022, it looks like we spent $877 billion on the military.

00:19:09.000 And I was just doing a little, it was hard to get an accurate number

00:19:12.000 of how much we actually spend on education, but we spend something like,

00:19:18.000 across the country, depending on where you are, there's different amounts,

00:19:23.000 but it looks like we spend something like $823,000 $23,000 per student.

00:19:30.000 800,000 per year per student?

00:19:31.000 Does that make sense?

00:19:32.000 No.

00:19:33.000 Because if we have, because it depends on where you are.

00:19:36.000 So New York, you spend 30,000 per student.

00:19:38.000 Do you mean in their lifetime?

00:19:41.000 K-12, 24,000 per year per student.

00:19:43.000 That makes sense, yes.

00:19:45.000 So yeah, so 823,000 per student.

00:19:48.000 There's 55 million K-12 students in the U.S., which gets me, and maybe my math is off. 0.97

00:19:54.000 I mean, I didn't do great in stupid math, but whatever. 0.94

00:19:57.000 Which gets me to about $46 trillion per year. 0.99

00:20:01.000 No, per 12 years.

00:20:03.000 Yeah.

00:20:04.000 So that would be $2 trillion per year?

00:20:07.000 No, 12?

00:20:07.000 $3 trillion per year?

00:20:09.000 Well, per student per year.

00:20:11.000 So like, New York spends $30,000 per student per year.

00:20:15.000 I would love it if overnight every single teacher in the country was fired from their job.

00:20:23.000 Oh, that'd be horrible.

00:20:25.000 Mass unemployment, that'd be terrible.

00:20:25.000 Why?

00:20:28.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, let me rephrase it.

00:20:30.000 I would be fine if overnight every single teacher got a... Different job?

00:20:35.000 Comparable job somewhere else and left.

00:20:37.000 Oh, okay.

00:20:38.000 But don't you recognize that so many teachers are wonderful and do a great job?

00:20:43.000 That is an assumption.

00:20:45.000 I know a lot of them.

00:20:46.000 Are you saying that you don't know one teacher who does a good job?

00:20:49.000 I had one good teacher.

00:20:49.000 One.

00:20:50.000 You know one.

00:20:51.000 But how about in your life now?

00:20:52.000 Plenty of people out there working in the education system.

00:20:54.000 Is there no one in your current circle or someone you've come across?

00:20:58.000 It's not that, it's like, if there's a factory that smashes hamsters, and you're like, why are they doing this?

00:21:06.000 And they're like, we don't know, we're just funded by the government to do it.

00:21:08.000 They pull a hamster and whack it.

00:21:10.000 This guy's really good at smashing hamsters.

00:21:11.000 Okay, how about this, how about not smashing?

00:21:13.000 My view of this is, the government keeps funding a program where a guy tosses a hamster in the air and whacks it with a tennis racket, and then when you ask him, why are you doing this?

00:21:22.000 He's like, government pays me to do it.

00:21:23.000 And you're like, maybe you should stop, what's the purpose of this?

00:21:26.000 Tenderizing hamster.

00:21:27.000 Why?

00:21:28.000 No idea.

00:21:28.000 I'm like, okay, this guy should not have a job.

00:21:30.000 Well, that way the hamster is better at running around the wheel.

00:21:32.000 Kids are failing at math.

00:21:33.000 Kids are failing at reading. 0.98

00:21:35.000 Kids think school sucks. 0.92

00:21:36.000 They're not learning. 0.98

00:21:37.000 They're not passionate.

00:21:38.000 They hate work.

00:21:39.000 They hate school.

00:21:40.000 Not every single student, but too many of them have it either indifferent or negative view.

00:21:45.000 And the average teacher has an indifferent to cold predisposition.

00:21:49.000 This is a massive failure and waste of money.

00:21:53.000 What if you got... Pod learning.

00:21:54.000 If you got a 3.0 for the year, you get to cast your vote on which teacher gets fired that year.

00:22:00.000 And every year, all the 3.0 or higher students get to send one off the island.

00:22:05.000 I also wonder, you know what really bothers me too?

00:22:08.000 We have so many school shootings that have emerged over the past couple of decades.

00:22:12.000 And no one ever brings up the school as a component.

00:22:16.000 It's always either it's mental health or it's guns.

00:22:19.000 And I'm like, did you ever wonder why it is some people go to schools even though they're out of school and just unload on teachers?

00:22:24.000 Maybe something is wrong with these institutionalized learning facilities.

00:22:28.000 Did you, Aaron, did you have a group of friends in school?

00:22:28.000 Yeah.

00:22:30.000 Like a tight group of friends?

00:22:31.000 I did.

00:22:32.000 Me too.

00:22:32.000 And that's when it got cool.

00:22:34.000 I hated it before that.

00:22:35.000 I hear you.

00:22:36.000 So a lot of the ostracization, sorry, were you going to say something?

00:22:36.000 I hear you.

00:22:39.000 Well, no, no.

00:22:40.000 I agree, and there are school shooters who have been bullied.

00:22:43.000 That was Columbine, I mean it was a huge component of it.

00:22:46.000 Sure, yeah.

00:22:48.000 These are prisons.

00:22:49.000 Michael Malice said, one of the first places a person will experience violence is in a public school, and he is correct. 1.00

00:22:56.000 Oh yeah, that's for sure.

00:22:57.000 I remember when I was in kindergarten, Henry exposed himself to me under the play structure.

00:23:05.000 Wow.

00:23:06.000 No parents around, no adults around.

00:23:08.000 Look at this kid who just got killed.

00:23:09.000 He got beaten to death in a fight.

00:23:11.000 I was thinking about this at this high school.

00:23:13.000 This is the story we kicked off the segment with, but that what is this is high school.

00:23:17.000 So like 14 year old girls and 17 year old boys.

00:23:21.000 Cause that's like a giant man gone through puberty with like a little girl who maybe hasn't yet.

00:23:21.000 Yep.

00:23:27.000 And what happened in Loudoun County is the girl got raped. 0.98

00:23:30.000 Yeah, she got raped in the bathroom. 1.00

00:23:32.000 But by the time you're 14 and like if you have your period and stuff like that's, you know, I know it's sort of boring to say or whatever, but like that sucks and it's super traumatizing and it's gross and everything about it is really unpleasant. 0.51

00:23:45.000 And you end up, if you're in the washroom at school and you have your period, a lot of times you're going to end up with blood on your hands.

00:23:52.000 And then you have to like wash your hands in front of boys.

00:23:55.000 Alright, so the first thing we do is- Gross!

00:23:57.000 That's even worse.

00:23:58.000 We separate boys and girls' skulls completely, then we make it so that women aren't allowed to work, then we repeal the 19th Amendment, and finally we institute the Mosaic Morality Police to go in and make sure all of it's being upheld. 1.00

00:24:09.000 Oh, you've thought this through.

00:24:11.000 Suddenly it's just the Iranian Revolution right here in the United States. 0.99

00:24:15.000 I think like we're all working right now.

00:24:15.000 I think about work.

00:24:17.000 Our bodies are constantly working.

00:24:19.000 So how do you maneuver that work to get ahead in life?

00:24:22.000 That's really the way people should look at it.

00:24:23.000 You're always working.

00:24:25.000 A lot of people aren't always working. 0.98

00:24:27.000 They're just sitting on their butts.

00:24:28.000 It's just like pumping energy. 0.92

00:24:29.000 Your body is just constantly working to keep you up.

00:24:32.000 Yeah.

00:24:33.000 Who sells their burning ATP to keep you alive.

00:24:34.000 That's the people that are like, I hate that word, work, work.

00:24:37.000 It's like, dude, no, man, it's a scientific term.

00:24:40.000 This is what I want you to look at.

00:24:42.000 The thing that I don't- Do you know what this is?

00:24:44.000 Oh.

00:24:45.000 This is a Far Side comic.

00:24:46.000 Gary Larson.

00:24:47.000 This is from a long time ago.

00:24:48.000 I love this!

00:24:50.000 Yeah.

00:24:50.000 It's a kid playing a video game and his parents are looking lovingly while imagining help wanted.

00:24:55.000 Nintendo expert needed.

00:24:57.000 $50,000 salary plus a bonus.

00:24:58.000 Looking for good Mario Brothers player.

00:25:00.000 $100,000 plus your own car.

00:25:02.000 The funny thing is...

00:25:03.000 Cause this is in the 90s.

00:25:04.000 That did happen.

00:25:05.000 It did happen.

00:25:06.000 Gary Larson was wrong.

00:25:08.000 Anything, you can turn your passion into work.

00:25:11.000 You just need a market for it.

00:25:14.000 And so the problem is, these young people are like, I don't want to work. 1.00

00:25:17.000 It's like, dude, can you, can you sing?

00:25:19.000 Yeah.

00:25:20.000 A lot of people can sing.

00:25:20.000 Okay.

00:25:21.000 Not that well.

00:25:22.000 I'll tell you what you do.

00:25:23.000 Go outside of a baseball game.

00:25:25.000 Wait till the game is letting out and start singing songs you like.

00:25:28.000 And you're going to make 200 bucks in an hour.

00:25:31.000 That's work.

00:25:32.000 What if you don't have that creative ingenuity?

00:25:35.000 I mean, not everyone has that.

00:25:37.000 But there's also a value to work itself.

00:25:40.000 There's also a value to taking care of yourself.

00:25:44.000 Why is it that college dropout billionaires have three times the net worth of college graduate billionaires?

00:25:49.000 That's a great well because they're obviously such skilled independent thinkers But the question is did did school dumb everybody else down or those dropouts just have that natural creative independent How did humanity make it this far without institutionalized learning facilities?

00:26:03.000 And how is it now that we have generations of people who don't want to work when previously everybody worked and we're fine with it?

00:26:09.000 But how many, did everyone who's contributed to humanity, do you think they came up with it independently on their own, or did their, possibly their education experience?

00:26:17.000 Their families.

00:26:18.000 But people who learn physics and engineering, they learn that in schools, and that contributes to humanity.

00:26:18.000 Their churches.

00:26:23.000 That's not true at all.

00:26:25.000 Really?

00:26:26.000 Universities are relatively, the ubiquity of universities are new.

00:26:31.000 A lot of the great inventors that we talk about never went to school for this stuff.

00:26:34.000 And good for them, but some people- That's all of them!

00:26:37.000 Okay, some of the best inventors, you're right, came to it on their own, but some people- Engineers.

00:26:41.000 Some people, engineers, physicists, they go through, doctors, they go through school programs, and they learn, and they learn.

00:26:47.000 Let me just tell you the absurdity of, the absurdity of me, at 25 years old, giving guest lectures to PhD courses at various universities.

00:26:55.000 You're an exception.

00:26:56.000 You're an exception.

00:26:59.000 I'm an exception in that I, instead of going to college and asking a guy who doesn't do journalism how to do journalism, I bought a phone, sat down with some guys and said, what's the app we need?

00:27:09.000 The remarkable thing about Solve- Could everyone do that?

00:27:12.000 Is that scalable?

00:27:12.000 Yes.

00:27:13.000 Yes.

00:27:13.000 So everyone could achieve the success you've had on the... No, it's not scalable.

00:27:17.000 Wrong.

00:27:18.000 It's wonderful what you achieved.

00:27:19.000 It's really impressive, but it's not scalable.

00:27:22.000 It just isn't.

00:27:22.000 It is.

00:27:23.000 Okay.

00:27:24.000 I think society needs leaders and then it needs followers.

00:27:26.000 So what do you think is difficult about pointing a phone at things and talking?

00:27:30.000 What is the difference between... Well, because the phone records it.

00:27:35.000 But I'm like, what's the barrier for entry?

00:27:38.000 Why can't people do that?

00:27:39.000 Well, the will, like you have the initiative and the- The willpower.

00:27:43.000 Yeah, okay, yes, yes, yes.

00:27:46.000 Okay, if everyone put it, but we've seen- School's harder than that.

00:27:48.000 But now everybody now points their phone to themselves and talks, and is everyone gonna become a huge success from that?

00:27:53.000 No, because there's only so much space for people to develop a big audience.

00:27:57.000 Right.

00:27:57.000 So what I'm saying is like- So people need to figure out what will work for them to They could.

00:28:03.000 They could, but not everyone will be able to figure that out.

00:28:06.000 So you're saying that everybody who goes to college for journalism is going to get a job in journalism?

00:28:09.000 No, they're not.

00:28:10.000 And they're going to be how much in debt?

00:28:11.000 No, they're not.

00:28:12.000 Listen, I don't recommend going to a college for journalism.

00:28:15.000 I think it's a terrible thing to do.

00:28:17.000 But that's that one field.

00:28:18.000 But if the taxpayer's covering the bills of them going to high school, it's fine then.

00:28:22.000 Yes, because they're not adults yet.

00:28:25.000 No, they are.

00:28:26.000 High school seniors are 18.

00:28:28.000 Alright, well, they need the chance, while their brains are still developing, I think, to be able to have a baseline education, to learn some basics, to socialize.

00:28:35.000 Maybe at 4 years old, not at 18.

00:28:39.000 The most formative years of a human's life are 0 through 5, and we don't have them in school for that period.

00:28:43.000 Then, the next most formative are 5 to 13, and what do we have them doing? 0.95

00:28:47.000 Mostly nothing bullshit. 0.96

00:28:49.000 Then high school years where kids should be picking up a trade and learning things because at 18 you're a man and you can go to war and die and smoke cigarettes. 1.00

00:28:56.000 We have them still in high school doing fucking nothing! 0.94

00:29:00.000 When New York implemented universal pre-k, do you think that was a good thing or a bad thing? 0.99

00:29:05.000 I don't know enough about it.

00:29:06.000 Okay, well, I mean- The general idea is, like, I think institutionalized learning facilities are broken.

00:29:11.000 And it's possible to have them, I suppose, but typically they're always going to skew towards failure that is propped up by government money.

00:29:18.000 And what ends up happening is, instead of saying, this failed, let's stop funding it, the government says to the taxpayer, we're taking it from you by force, and there's nothing you can do about it. 0.98

00:29:28.000 If a system is broken and it can't fail, and the taxpayer is forced to pay for it against their will, like, that's fucked.

00:29:35.000 We've got kids suffering and the government, it's, and then you get teachers unions who will never let the system die. 0.93

00:29:40.000 I didn't sign off on funding Israel and the proxy war in Ukraine.

00:29:44.000 Yes.

00:29:44.000 Exactly.

00:29:45.000 So if we're able to apply standards equally.

00:29:45.000 Okay.

00:29:48.000 But I agree with you on that for the same reason.

00:29:51.000 You are consistent on that.

00:29:52.000 We should have some access to discretionary taxes.

00:29:52.000 You are.

00:29:54.000 I agree.

00:29:55.000 Maybe 60% of your taxes should be discretionary or 30% of them or something like that.

00:30:00.000 I would be willing to bet large sums of money that if I adopted any random kid.

00:30:09.000 That kid would grow up to be successful.

00:30:12.000 Okay, fair enough.

00:30:13.000 And maybe you're right, but the problem is it's not scalable.

00:30:17.000 It is.

00:30:19.000 It's tough because you need two-way interaction.

00:30:21.000 It literally is scalable.

00:30:22.000 The problem is not that humans are incapable. 0.99

00:30:25.000 The problem is that our culture and society has created fucked up, broken machines that destroy people. 0.99

00:30:31.000 We need good teachers, to be honest. 0.98

00:30:33.000 If you think it's not scalable, then we should abolish school right now.

00:30:36.000 Because the idea that we're going to put everyone in a school and it's going to work is impossible by your standard.

00:30:42.000 If schools cannot teach people to work and survive, we should get rid of them. 0.99

00:30:47.000 I agree with you that something needs to change, and there needs to be more practical life skills taught.

00:30:51.000 I could've benefited from that.

00:30:53.000 There used to be that.

00:30:54.000 Finance, shop, home ec.

00:30:56.000 I hate home ec and shop.

00:30:57.000 Let's go to callers, otherwise, you know, we'll see what they think.

00:31:00.000 Right on, I agree.

00:31:03.000 Everyone on here's got short names, so I can't read your whole names here.

00:31:07.000 I'll do my best.

00:31:09.000 If I deadname you on Discord, not my bad, all right?

00:31:12.000 Bringforthelies, you are live.

00:31:16.000 How are you today?

00:31:18.000 Hey guys, how are you doing?

00:31:19.000 I bring forth the lies.

00:31:21.000 Pardon me.

00:31:21.000 Oh, okay.

00:31:23.000 Thank you.

00:31:24.000 Um, so my question was directed towards Libby cause this has been something that I've heard her say on quite a few episodes now.

00:31:33.000 Um, and I really wanted to kind of ask her about this.

00:31:36.000 Um, why are you so strongly opposed to surrogacy?

00:31:45.000 There are people out there that it is the only way they can have a child.

00:31:50.000 Do you think it's fair to these people to not be able to have the ability to be parents?

00:31:57.000 I don't think anyone has the right to have a child.

00:32:00.000 I don't think that's a, you know, if your body can do that, your body can do that and that's amazing.

00:32:05.000 If it can't, I don't know that you necessarily have the right to have a biological child.

00:32:11.000 I'm opposed to commercial surrogacy.

00:32:13.000 I'm not opposed to altruistic surrogacy, like situations where, you know, a couple can't have a child biologically themselves, and so perhaps, you know, the sister or a friend or what have you volunteers to help that couple.

00:32:30.000 I'm not opposed to a volunteer surrogacy situation, an altruistic surrogacy situation.

00:32:36.000 A commercial surrogacy situation very easily can and does lead to baby factory type of arrangements where you have a woman who is contracted to rent her body for a period of months in order to, you know, facilitate the child for someone else.

00:33:00.000 Now, on the one hand, you could say that a woman has the right to sell her body, and certainly advocates for sex work would say that that is true. 1.00

00:33:10.000 However, there are substantial differences to selling your body for sex, which also I'm not in favor of, and selling your body for surrogacy, which also I'm not in favor of.

00:33:20.000 And there are, these are some of those circumstances.

00:33:24.000 When a woman is contracted to be a surrogate, she has to already have undergone at least one pregnancy.

00:33:33.000 You're not allowed to be a first-time pregnant person and be a surrogate. 1.00

00:33:38.000 And the reason for that is to make sure that your body is capable of Carrying a child to term.

00:33:45.000 What that means, however, is that you are already a mother.

00:33:47.000 So you are now in a situation where you are carrying someone else's child while you have likely another child in the home. 0.60

00:33:56.000 I think that that's pretty unpleasant for that child who's already in the home to see someone who otherwise would be their sibling essentially being sold to someone else.

00:34:06.000 Also, when you're a surrogate, you are taking, the embryo is not your own egg.

00:34:13.000 In some cases it is your own egg, in which case you're literally selling your own child, but the egg, the embryo is not your own, so you have to take a substantial number of drugs in order to facilitate that.

00:34:25.000 You have to take IVF medication to make sure that You know, because it's IVF, basically.

00:34:31.000 So you have to take all the IVF drugs, which is all these heavy-duty hormones.

00:34:35.000 That takes a substantial period of time and is very rough on the body.

00:34:39.000 You also have to take, after implantation, you have to take the same drugs that a person would take after receiving an organ that's not theirs, to prevent organ rejection, because your body will naturally reject the egg of another woman.

00:34:55.000 So you have to take those drugs.

00:34:57.000 That's a months-long process to do that.

00:35:01.000 Also, in many cases with surrogacy, you are implanted with multiples and that's to ensure that at least one of the children survives and it's to lower costs for the couple who is purchasing the child and renting the woman.

00:35:17.000 So that's another thing.

00:35:18.000 Multiple pregnancies are substantially more dangerous.

00:35:22.000 So now you have a number of things that are contributing to the danger of the situation.

00:35:26.000 Also in the United States, a lot of women who undergo surrogacy and become surrogates are married.

00:35:33.000 So I, you know, my personal morality looking at a nuclear family where a woman is selling her body and you have a husband in the home, I think that would be substantially emasculating and you have many men who have come out and spoken against that. 0.91

00:35:48.000 There have been many men also who have come out and spoken against surrogacy after their wives have died in the surrogacy process.

00:35:55.000 Wow.

00:35:56.000 And you could talk to Jennifer Law about this, with the Center for Bioethics, who does really amazing work on this.

00:36:02.000 And Katie Fowles, who I think was on the show, also in Eastern Europe.

00:36:07.000 Just two more things, just two more things.

00:36:09.000 In Eastern Europe surrogacy is not legal, so many couples from Western Europe come to the United States to buy their children.

00:36:19.000 You also have a situation where, for the child's perspective, you will have, for example, if you have a couple that does not have their own eggs, they will buy an egg from one place, like Ukraine, where the phrase is that you could buy cheap white eggs.

00:36:33.000 So you would buy eggs from one place, you would mix them with the sperm from somewhere else, they would be gestated in the surrogate of one country, and then sold to a couple in another country. 0.55

00:36:42.000 So that's an issue as well.

00:36:44.000 But my follow-up Libby is, how do you reconcile your concern for the health of the mother with the fact that women are things? 0.99

00:36:51.000 Right, I mean the fact that women are buyable and saleable objects, of course. 1.00

00:36:55.000 I forgot that part, clearly.

00:36:56.000 You're like, when my refrigerator breaks, I'm gonna cry about it.

00:36:58.000 Yeah, because we've already gone through the Iranian Revolution, so we're here. 0.71

00:37:02.000 I got a question.

00:37:03.000 If altruistic surrogacy, you state it was okay, where like someone, a loved one is willing, and then you do it, and then after the baby's born, you give them a big fat tip.

00:37:03.000 We're here now.

00:37:13.000 Huge tip.

00:37:15.000 Is that okay?

00:37:16.000 I don't know if that's okay.

00:37:17.000 I mean, if that's pre-arranged, I don't think that's okay.

00:37:22.000 But the reason that I'm opposed to commercial surrogacy is because I don't think an industry of baby-making is a good thing.

00:37:31.000 I don't think that is a moral good thing.

00:37:34.000 I do agree to that, Libby.

00:37:36.000 What's that?

00:37:38.000 I do agree to that.

00:37:39.000 I think what would help is if you were to specify between the two.

00:37:43.000 I typically do that.

00:37:45.000 Yeah, I typically do that, but it's misconstrued.

00:37:48.000 Yeah.

00:37:49.000 Just because as somebody that I've been with my wife, I've known my wife since we were 10 years old.

00:37:54.000 We've been together since we were 12.

00:37:55.000 We're now 38.

00:37:57.000 That's wonderful.

00:37:58.000 Congrats, bro.

00:38:00.000 A year after we got married, I was diagnosed with testicular cancer.

00:38:04.000 We cannot have a child from me.

00:38:07.000 Um, she has some autoimmune diseases that make it hard for her to carry the term. 1.00

00:38:12.000 She has almost died from that before.

00:38:14.000 That's terrible.

00:38:16.000 And so for us, the only option is surrogacy.

00:38:19.000 Well, there's also- Would be her eggs.

00:38:22.000 Yeah.

00:38:22.000 And we do have One of her best friends has said, I want to do this for you.

00:38:27.000 One of her best friends has five kids already.

00:38:29.000 I want to do this for you.

00:38:30.000 I've never had a complication.

00:38:31.000 So I feel like differentiating between the two, when you say you're against surrogacy, would really be beneficial.

00:38:39.000 Because it is kind of, They're hugely different things.

00:38:43.000 I agree.

00:38:44.000 I think that's very different.

00:38:45.000 Like the one commercial surrogacy, a lot of the issue for me is that then you have a baby making and selling industry.

00:38:53.000 And I don't think we should have baby making and selling industries, but altruistic surrogacy has as something that has been with us for a very long time.

00:39:01.000 Even if you go back into like looking at biblical times, you know, you had Abraham and, um, Wasn't it Sarah?

00:39:09.000 Abraham and Sarah.

00:39:10.000 And you know, uh, her handmaiden was a surrogate. 0.72

00:39:15.000 This is why we named the rooster Isaac.

00:39:17.000 Oh, really?

00:39:18.000 Because his mom was Sarah.

00:39:19.000 That's really cute.

00:39:20.000 Is there another Ishmael?

00:39:21.000 We gotta, we gotta find an Ishmael. 0.95

00:39:23.000 Yeah.

00:39:24.000 So I do, I do actually try and make that differentiation a lot.

00:39:28.000 It's often just not made, but when I'm asked, yes, I definitely will make that distinction.

00:39:33.000 Also adoption is something that's kind of amazing in my family.

00:39:36.000 Okay.

00:39:36.000 I'm sorry.

00:39:37.000 I've taken up a lot of time.

00:39:38.000 Yeah, we definitely got to move to some colors.

00:39:39.000 That was deep, because I didn't know you had a differential between commercial and offer.

00:39:43.000 Yeah, it's a big difference.

00:39:43.000 Good to know.

00:39:45.000 Yeah, that was awesome.

00:39:46.000 Thanks, dude.

00:39:51.000 Um, I've heard you try to find the right word in a bunch of your videos now.

00:39:55.000 The plural of kibbutz is kibbutzim.

00:39:57.000 Kibbutzim, yeah.

00:39:58.000 Say that one more time.

00:39:59.000 Kibbutzim, yeah.

00:40:00.000 Kibbutzim.

00:40:01.000 Not kibbutz, kibbutzim. 0.99

00:40:02.000 Kibbutz, I-M. 0.69

00:40:03.000 Kibbutzim.

00:40:05.000 That's the plural.

00:40:05.000 Ah, got it.

00:40:06.000 I-M is plural in Hebrew for any masculine word.

00:40:09.000 There you go.

00:40:10.000 Nice.

00:40:11.000 True.

00:40:11.000 Oh, I didn't know you guys in Hebrew had masculine and feminine.

00:40:13.000 That's interesting.

00:40:14.000 Elohim? 0.94

00:40:15.000 And plural?

00:40:16.000 Seven is ah.

00:40:18.000 A-H.

00:40:19.000 I'm asking in as I am, Ian.

00:40:20.000 Okay, right on. Thanks for calling in. Cheers, brother.

00:40:23.000 Thank you All right next up

00:40:26.000 Again, can't read the name. I'm gonna go by what it says dancing

00:40:30.000 dancing okapi I hope they ask Libby about surrogacy.

00:40:34.000 I hope not.

00:40:35.000 You're on the air, how are you?

00:40:38.000 Hopefully my question isn't as controversial, but thanks for taking my call everyone.

00:40:43.000 My question is primarily for Tim, but you know, it's open for anyone.

00:40:47.000 Why do you think Shapiro is so critical of Vivek?

00:40:50.000 Like, I know that there's rumors that he or the Daily Wire are kind of in bed with the DeSantis camp.

00:40:56.000 Um, but he's made comments about the vague changing stances and he's theatrical with no solutions.

00:41:02.000 So well, Ben, Ben was opposed to Trump early on there.

00:41:07.000 You know, Daily Wire guys are more mainstream conservative.

00:41:12.000 I wouldn't call him necessarily neocon or anything like that, but close in some respects in some of their positions.

00:41:19.000 So for Ben and for many of the guys at The Daily Wire, yeah, Ron DeSantis is your guy, and Vivek is more Trumpian.

00:41:29.000 So, if you're concerned about this populist upstart, you know, kind of Trump- Trumpian stuff and MAGA, Vivek is very much in line with that.

00:41:39.000 But Ben and everyone else got behind Trump because he was the Republican candidate, he became, you know, he was the nominee who won, he became president, and then they basically said, okay, it's this or nothing, so that's what they went for.

00:41:50.000 Now, given the option, I'm not surprised they're going for Ron DeSantis, despite the obvious shortcomings of the DeSantis campaign, and the failures that come along with wearing three-inch lifts in your cowboy boots.

00:42:01.000 So, what, um, he, the specific claim that Vivek doesn't have any real solutions, I've heard him in long-form podcasts, and he seems to lay it out.

00:42:01.000 Yep.

00:42:10.000 Do you think it's just him kind of shilling for DeSantis, or do you think he just hasn't sat down to listen to Vivek speak about Well, I mean, it's Ben's opinion.

00:42:21.000 If he thinks the things that Vivek have said are not real solutions, then it's his opinion to say he has no solutions.

00:42:27.000 I have no problem with that.

00:42:29.000 It'd be a great conversation, in fact.

00:42:31.000 I think if you were to ask Ben this question, he'd give you a very well thought out answer as to what his point was.

00:42:39.000 Ben's a smart guy, and he's an excellent master debater.

00:42:43.000 Yeah, look, I disagree with Ben, but I know that every time I've interacted with him, if you're like, hey, how come this, Ben?

00:42:54.000 He'll break it down for you.

00:42:55.000 That's what he's famous for doing, you know?

00:42:57.000 So, if he's speaking on his show, I think it's fair to be like, I don't understand what he's saying, Vivek has laid these things out.

00:43:04.000 He should answer the questions, but does he do call-ins?

00:43:08.000 I don't know.

00:43:08.000 No, Ben.

00:43:09.000 Yeah.

00:43:09.000 I don't know.

00:43:10.000 I know that if you went to like one of his speaking events and at the Q&A asked him exactly this, he'd give you a logical breakdown of what he means and you'd understand.

00:43:19.000 Ben's the facts-don't-care-about-your-feelings guy.

00:43:22.000 With all due respect, unless it comes to Israel, but I'm pretty sure he can give you a very simple, logical answer.

00:43:28.000 I just think he's wrong.

00:43:30.000 That's fine.

00:43:32.000 I think Vivek's answers are the best.

00:43:34.000 I think he demolishes the debates.

00:43:37.000 I think there are some high-profile personalities who are probably on the payroll.

00:43:40.000 I don't think The Daily Wire is, but I do think The Daily Wire did market their member list.

00:43:46.000 I could be wrong about that.

00:43:47.000 Is that true?

00:43:48.000 I don't know.

00:43:49.000 I thought I heard something about the Daily Wire sells their email list as an advertising option.

00:43:54.000 Well, it's totally normal.

00:43:57.000 And so they may have done that with DeSantis' campaign, I think.

00:44:00.000 And they got accused of being paid by the DeSantis campaign.

00:44:03.000 And then Jeremy Boren was like, we offer up our advertising list to all sorts of companies.

00:44:09.000 That's quite literally...

00:44:11.000 A sponsorship thing.

00:44:12.000 And so, like, when you sign up for their email list, like, I agree to receive promotions and stuff.

00:44:16.000 That's the point.

00:44:17.000 I think that's all they did.

00:44:19.000 I don't think that's why they would shell for DeSandis.

00:44:21.000 I think they genuinely think DeSandis is better.

00:44:24.000 Like, I've talked to him about it.

00:44:25.000 They really do like the guy.

00:44:26.000 I like DeSandis, too. 0.99

00:44:27.000 It's just his campaign is fucking apocalyptic. 1.00

00:44:30.000 His campaign is really a disaster. 0.99

00:44:32.000 I like Vivek, also.

00:44:34.000 Every debate, I think he's been really strong.

00:44:37.000 If Ron fired his campaign staff, just and brought on people who are also not that good, I'd

00:44:43.000 be forgiving. I'd be like, no, that's good. You got to do what you got to do. But the fact

00:44:48.000 that he keeps these people on, it's just he keeps them on. And then they start going after

00:44:51.000 everybody on Twitter. And you're just like, why are you wasting your time on this? This is not

00:44:55.000 something anybody we've had people on this show who are not who are not in the Trump versus Santa

00:45:01.000 space.

00:45:02.000 I don't want to say who they are.

00:45:04.000 Conservative leaning people who don't get involved in that and they say, look man, all I care about is, you know, pushing back on the wokeness and stuff like this.

00:45:11.000 And they're getting attacked by DeSantis people.

00:45:13.000 It's just so weird.

00:45:14.000 But anyway, I hope that answers your question to the best of my ability.

00:45:16.000 Anything else to add?

00:45:19.000 No, that's everything.

00:45:20.000 Thanks.

00:45:21.000 Have a good night, everyone.

00:45:21.000 Of course.

00:45:22.000 Cheers.

00:45:22.000 Thank you.

00:45:23.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:45:24.000 All right.

00:45:24.000 I love how all of Trump's former people now totally diss him.

00:45:27.000 Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, Nikki Haley, they all say he's unfit for office.

00:45:30.000 And that's because he appointed a bunch of neocons who wanted to undermine everything he ran on.

00:45:36.000 Yeah, I don't really care too much what Nikki Haley has to say about Trump, to be honest.

00:45:39.000 Let's see.

00:45:40.000 Not Heisenberg.

00:45:43.000 That's a funny one.

00:45:44.000 How are you?

00:45:45.000 Yes.

00:45:46.000 I'm good, right?

00:45:48.000 Thank you for coming on 10Cast, Aaron.

00:45:50.000 Really appreciate it, and for taking my question. 0.94

00:45:53.000 Until recently, I was an avid watcher of Useful Idiots. 0.66

00:45:57.000 I recognize the Israeli-Palestine questions have already been addressed a few times, and I notice that you're very critical of Israel in all of your work. 0.82

00:46:05.000 What do you feel like is a realistic solution to the current crisis for long-term peace and a resolution to the 75-year-long conflict?

00:46:16.000 I talked about it earlier.

00:46:17.000 I talked about it earlier on the show, but just to briefly summarize, to me, ideally, if I could design the perfect solution in an ideal world, it would be equality for everybody.

00:46:26.000 And Palestinians who were kicked out of their homes in 1948 either get the right of return or get compensated for it. 0.69

00:46:32.000 But that's not going to happen because Israel's nuclear weapons is not going to give up its claim to be a Jewish state. 0.74

00:46:39.000 It just won't.

00:46:40.000 So I think the best solution is removing all the West Bank settlements. 1.00

00:46:45.000 Move everyone who's in these settlements into Israel proper and the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza and Compensate all these Palestinian refugees and their families and their descendants for the homes that were lost and that's the best That's the solution that most of the world supports The only people who are the main opponents of it are the US and Israel and if that were to change I think it can make a huge difference I mean, I don't know where the money's going to come from in this situation. 1.00

00:47:07.000 Do you have an idea where that would come from?

00:47:09.000 Well, we spend so much money on arming Israel and there's so much money put into maintaining the occupation. 0.73

00:47:17.000 Right.

00:47:17.000 So do we divert from current spending towards that?

00:47:18.000 Yeah, which I agree with.

00:47:19.000 It's not really about money.

00:47:20.000 Money's not going to get houses built. 0.97

00:47:22.000 You actually need materials.

00:47:23.000 to pay for it?

00:47:23.000 Do you want the U.S.

00:47:25.000 Is that what you're saying, Eric?

00:47:26.000 How do we have a situation where these people can live next to each other?

00:47:30.000 Because like the Gazans and the West Bagans, they're all, the Palestinians, they're all brainwashed to hate Israel, to martyr, to destroy Israel. 1.00

00:47:43.000 They want everything, they want the entire land, right? 0.91

00:47:46.000 How do you realistically create a state in which your neighbors want to kill you?

00:47:50.000 You know plenty of states have lived next to each other that have previously been in total states of war have gone

00:47:57.000 on to peace I mean look at Europe like France and England. They I mean

00:48:01.000 well. Yeah, there's there's Ireland and England, oh boy!

00:48:04.000 There's peace there now.

00:48:06.000 But you have to establish, to have peace, you have to have a baseline of respect for everybody.

00:48:10.000 And right now, there's no respect for Palestinian rights.

00:48:12.000 There isn't.

00:48:13.000 That's the situation.

00:48:13.000 There's an occupation.

00:48:15.000 And the West Bank, to be a Palestinian, it's horrible. 1.00

00:48:17.000 But it's so horrible for Gaza right now that the West Bank is even being ignored.

00:48:20.000 So the first thing you would do is address the occupation.

00:48:23.000 From that, you never know what could happen from that.

00:48:26.000 I got an idea.

00:48:27.000 Common language.

00:48:28.000 I got a really good idea.

00:48:31.000 Hamas should open a casino in Gaza. 0.96

00:48:34.000 And then all the people in Israel are going to be like, dude, let's go to Gaza!

00:48:39.000 They tried that in the 90s.

00:48:40.000 There was talk of that.

00:48:41.000 I think there even was a casino in the West Bank.

00:48:43.000 Really?

00:48:44.000 Yeah, there was.

00:48:45.000 But again, the problem there was Israel refused to give up its settlement building.

00:48:49.000 So even in the 90s, when you had this year of the so-called peace process, The settlement population doubled and Israel didn't dismantle 0.91

00:48:56.000 its settlements. It kept building them up because they were never actually interested in

00:49:00.000 making peace on serious terms.

00:49:02.000 So once you reverse that, you could open up the possibility for peace. I'm not saying it's easy,

00:49:06.000 but anything is better than the current approach of the last 75 years.

00:49:09.000 You get a casino built.

00:49:10.000 But don't you feel like there's like nobody at all that is motivated for peace, right?

00:49:17.000 All of the Arab states and Persian, Iran, next door, nobody wants peace. 1.00

00:49:23.000 You know, honestly, it's not in Israel's interest, it's not in the Palestinians' interest, it's not in the rest of the Arab states' interest. 0.89

00:49:29.000 Listen, Google Arab Peace Initiative 2002, okay?

00:49:33.000 In 2002, Saudi Arabia put out a proposal, it's called the Arab Peace Initiative.

00:49:37.000 Offering Israel full relations with all the Arab states In return for Israel withdrawing from the West Bank and Gaza and allowing the creation of a Palestinian state there and finding a just resolution to the refugee issue.

00:49:49.000 It didn't say let everybody back.

00:49:50.000 It said find a just resolution.

00:49:52.000 Israel rejected that.

00:49:54.000 Hamas at one point even accepted it.

00:49:56.000 Now Hamas didn't say we'll recognize Israel, but Hamas said we'll accept the state within the 67 borders, which means the West Bank and Gaza.

00:50:04.000 Iran said they would respect it even in 2017.

00:50:06.000 You can look that up.

00:50:07.000 It's Israel. 0.51

00:50:10.000 As a colonial power that won't give up its desire to control all that land.

00:50:15.000 That's the problem here.

00:50:16.000 You also know that the same thing has happened on the other side, that Arafat rejected the Camp David Accords.

00:50:23.000 Do you know who else rejected the Camp David Accords?

00:50:26.000 Look this up.

00:50:27.000 Shlomo Ben-Ami.

00:50:28.000 He was the Foreign Minister of Israel at Camp David.

00:50:30.000 He was on the negotiating team.

00:50:32.000 And he said during an interview that I was there for, when I was working for Democracy Now!, he said if I were Palestinian, I would have rejected Camp David as well.

00:50:41.000 And I understand why you think that Arafat rejected this generous deal, but that's because we've been lied to.

00:50:46.000 Clinton lied.

00:50:47.000 All these people have lied.

00:50:49.000 The offer at Camp David would have kept the major West Bank settlement blocks.

00:50:53.000 It would have cut off Palestinians from Jerusalem. 0.61

00:50:56.000 They wouldn't even have control over East Jerusalem.

00:50:58.000 They would have control over an adjacent suburb that they could rename East Jerusalem if they wanted to.

00:51:02.000 That offer was a joke, and it's been...

00:51:05.000 The only reason we don't know otherwise is because we've been lied to so many times.

00:51:10.000 And that lie is used to justify Israeli expansionism. 0.73

00:51:14.000 Yeah, my problem is I think you feel like it's just one side, it's both sides.

00:51:18.000 I do feel it's one side, because one side is occupying the other.

00:51:21.000 And that doesn't mean I endorse the tactics that Hamas undertakes. 0.56

00:51:24.000 And purely from a Palestinian point of view, in terms of what's best for their liberation, I think Hamas really set them back.

00:51:31.000 Were you in favor of Germany reclaiming the lands that were lost after the end of World War I?

00:51:37.000 You know, I'm not familiar with that history.

00:51:39.000 Well, basically what starts World War II is Hitler saying, like, these are the lands Germany lost after- Sudetenland as well.

00:51:44.000 Yeah, the Sudetenland.

00:51:46.000 Okay, no, I do not support that, no.

00:51:48.000 Yeah, what do you mean?

00:51:48.000 Why not?

00:51:50.000 Those were ethnic Germans who were being oppressed by other countries.

00:51:52.000 So after World War I, Germany gets put in a massive debt in these treaties, particularly with France, and that stripped a bunch of their land away, which was ethnically German, given other countries and these people were being oppressed.

00:52:03.000 They spoke German.

00:52:04.000 Then they spoke German.

00:52:05.000 So Hitler said, I'm taking this back.

00:52:07.000 It's our land.

00:52:08.000 Okay, but Hitler's goal was not just to take back some disputed land. 0.97

00:52:12.000 He wanted to exterminate all the Jews in the world, along with Gypsies and everyone else.

00:52:18.000 And he also wanted to go way further than that. 0.99

00:52:19.000 He wanted to basically dominate the planet.

00:52:22.000 And I don't think you can say the same thing about Hamas.

00:52:24.000 Hamas is trying to liberate their own territory, which was taken from them.

00:52:28.000 No, they're trying to destroy Israel, right? 0.93

00:52:31.000 To get rid of all of Israel. 1.00

00:52:32.000 That's in their charter, yes.

00:52:34.000 And that's what they say, it's true. 0.76

00:52:35.000 But they actually changed their charter in 2017.

00:52:36.000 Yeah, I'm not going to believe them.

00:52:39.000 Okay, fair enough.

00:52:40.000 But there was a period when they said we'd accept a state in the 6-7 borders.

00:52:43.000 And maybe they were lying the whole time.

00:52:45.000 In 2017, they took out the reference to the elders of Zion.

00:52:48.000 Yeah, okay.

00:52:49.000 And so one option, look, there are plenty of people who said we should engage with Hamas and see what they, and see, like for example, the former head of Mossad said we should engage with Hamas.

00:53:00.000 He wrote an article about this in the Washington Post.

00:53:03.000 There was a plenty of talk about that.

00:53:04.000 It was Israel who insisted on sticking to this extremist position that no, all this land is ours.

00:53:11.000 And as long as you have that position, you're always gonna have people trying to resist you.

00:53:14.000 So if you don't like what Hamas does, take away the reason Why they're launching all these military actions and your occupation. 0.86

00:53:20.000 Give them at least some of their land back.

00:53:22.000 Not all of it.

00:53:23.000 That's not possible anymore, I realize.

00:53:25.000 But at least start with the position of letting Palestinians have a state and 22% of their land, which is for them is a huge compromise already.

00:53:33.000 I have a solution.

00:53:35.000 My solution is that Egypt should take over Gaza, and that Jordan should take over the West Bank. 0.97

00:53:38.000 road here? Yeah, so my solution is that Egypt should take over Gaza and that 0.99

00:53:44.000 Jordan should take over the West Bank and we need Israel to negotiate with 1.00

00:53:48.000 nation-states and with people that are ruled by terrorist organizations.

00:53:53.000 That's it.

00:53:54.000 That's actually quite a good solution.

00:53:56.000 Yeah.

00:53:57.000 I would agree with that.

00:53:57.000 They're just going to give away their land to other countries.

00:54:00.000 Well, actually both of these territories were controlled by, uh, was it Transjordan at the time?

00:54:03.000 And then they were taken over in the war in 67 I think.

00:54:03.000 Yes.

00:54:07.000 Yeah, man.

00:54:07.000 Well, appreciate it.

00:54:08.000 Thanks for, thanks for calling in.

00:54:09.000 Thanks, dude.

00:54:10.000 Cheers, man.

00:54:10.000 Thank you.

00:54:11.000 So are you, are you familiar with the, uh, was it Havara?

00:54:15.000 Havara agreement?

00:54:17.000 No.

00:54:18.000 Nazi Germany and German Jews agreed that Germany would allow them to leave and go to Palestine.

00:54:27.000 I don't know anything about it.

00:54:27.000 I just looked it up.

00:54:28.000 I don't know about that.

00:54:29.000 I do know there were some... I haven't looked into this, but there was talk of some Zionist...

00:54:36.000 Collusion with Nazis, which I've heard about.

00:54:39.000 Yeah, the Nazis wanted the Jews out of the country.

00:54:40.000 I don't know if it was collusion more so that Jews who were being persecuted were like, please just let us leave.

00:54:45.000 We'll go here instead. 0.99

00:54:46.000 And they were like, get the fuck out. 0.98

00:54:47.000 It was 1933. 0.92

00:54:48.000 Yeah, but I also know that the U.S.

00:54:49.000 really did not want Jews to come here. 1.00

00:54:52.000 Yeah, nobody wanted them.

00:54:53.000 And Jewish groups here work very hard to keep out Jewish refugees from the U.S.

00:54:56.000 so they can all go to Palestine. 0.96

00:54:57.000 Let's grab that last caller there.

00:54:59.000 Yes, indeed.

00:55:00.000 Shadowbox Design, you are back with us.

00:55:03.000 How's it going, bro?

00:55:04.000 It's going good.

00:55:05.000 Are you guys okay if I just share my own personal experience with homeschooling just real quick since I've been homeschooling my whole life?

00:55:11.000 Would love to hear it.

00:55:11.000 Okay.

00:55:12.000 So, I'm 21.

00:55:13.000 I've started two businesses.

00:55:15.000 I've had a couple successful clothing drops on one business.

00:55:17.000 I've made thousands with my art business.

00:55:19.000 My brothers are both successful.

00:55:21.000 One is a single income house raising a daughter with his wife.

00:55:24.000 One's a salaried manager at a major retail company.

00:55:29.000 I know plenty of people who have had great experiences with homeschooling.

00:55:33.000 I've also seen the bad side.

00:55:35.000 And honestly, I do think that there's more good than harm.

00:55:38.000 And I think that in public schooling, it's more harm than good.

00:55:41.000 So I don't, I'm not here to offer a solution for that.

00:55:45.000 I just want to put it out there that I think that homeschooling will set more people up for success, but in public school, the people who succeed out of that are typically the ones that have to break away from their education.

00:55:58.000 Rather than with homeschooling, the people who succeed are successful because of their education.

00:56:02.000 That proves it!

00:56:04.000 Yeah.

00:56:04.000 I mean, I'm not here to say, you know, the guest is 100% wrong.

00:56:09.000 I respect your opinion, but I am just going to say, you know, I have not seen a single person who is homeschooled.

00:56:15.000 Even the one person I know who is homeschooled in a poor way, his mother didn't really teach him much.

00:56:20.000 He still ended up going on and starting his own business and getting a GED.

00:56:24.000 So that way he could have some sort of diploma and went on and, you know, he raises his kids now, like with his wife.

00:56:31.000 I think it's a lot of self-sufficiency that you're talking about.

00:56:31.000 Right on.

00:56:33.000 Well, that's really great.

00:56:34.000 Well, thanks for calling in and we'll see how it goes.

00:56:37.000 I was like, wait a minute.

00:56:39.000 I'm gonna ask my question now.

00:56:41.000 So, a question for the panel.

00:56:42.000 With the dramatic shifts happening in the political landscape in this last year and the decline of Joe Biden's front-runner status in the Democratic Party, how much time do you believe the Democrats truly have before it's too late to build up a new candidate?

00:56:54.000 Two months?

00:56:55.000 No, actually more than that.

00:56:56.000 Four months?

00:56:56.000 No, no.

00:56:58.000 Two months, because March is when the primaries- Super Tuesday.

00:57:01.000 Yeah.

00:57:01.000 They got the media that's going to be 24-7 Gavin Newsom's hair gel, but it's two months.

00:57:06.000 No, no, no.

00:57:06.000 Maybe they want to wait until the very last minute for some Joe Biden collapses thing, because then there's no time for opposition research and an attack on Gavin Newsom.

00:57:15.000 Yeah, they don't need to have anybody in a primary.

00:57:17.000 The Democrats don't need to primary anybody.

00:57:19.000 Because they're an evil cabal.

00:57:20.000 They can just pick who they want at their convention in the summer.

00:57:25.000 Yep.

00:57:26.000 And they could just go for it.

00:57:28.000 I like that.

00:57:29.000 And then just push them onto the ballot.

00:57:31.000 It'd be funny if Obama just shows up and they're like, but you can't be president.

00:57:35.000 You were president twice.

00:57:36.000 Go and stop me.

00:57:38.000 And then he just runs anyway.

00:57:39.000 And then everyone's like, what do we do?

00:57:40.000 And it's like, I guess, I guess.

00:57:42.000 And then no one does anything to stop him.

00:57:44.000 That would be such a coup.

00:57:45.000 That would be horrible.

00:57:45.000 So think about this.

00:57:47.000 The only, like, here's what's gonna help everybody. 0.99

00:57:51.000 understanding that human rules mean fuck all. 0.97

00:57:56.000 And that's exemplified every day by what Democrats are doing 0.98

00:57:59.000 with Donald Trump in court and Russiagate.

00:58:01.000 The rules that we put in place are just fancy things that we think we should do.

00:58:06.000 The only things that really matter, natural laws.

00:58:09.000 Now we want to function in a cohesive society, but the fact remains that if Barack Obama ran for president 0.97

00:58:14.000 and then the media said that he was president, no one would do shit, no court would touch it, 0.94

00:58:20.000 Even though he was in violation of the, what is the rules? 0.96

00:58:23.000 It's an amendment, right?

00:58:24.000 I don't know.

00:58:25.000 One of the amendments.

00:58:26.000 The emoluments clause?

00:58:28.000 The two terms.

00:58:29.000 Oh, that was after FDR, they came up with that.

00:58:31.000 After four terms, yeah.

00:58:32.000 I forgot what number it was.

00:58:33.000 Four terms, I don't know what the thing is, but that's how many he was. 0.98

00:58:35.000 But my point is, when you have Texas v. Pennsylvania, and the Supreme Court says, fuck us, we're not going anywhere near that, That was nuts. 0.92

00:58:43.000 The Supreme Court really should have taken that up. 0.97

00:58:45.000 I know.

00:58:45.000 It's psychotic.

00:58:46.000 The fact that they didn't is proof to what I'm saying.

00:58:48.000 If the media said Obama was president, he'd be president.

00:58:51.000 Well, it's not proof.

00:58:52.000 That's true.

00:58:53.000 That'd be very dangerous.

00:58:54.000 There's term limits in New York and Bloomberg still got three terms.

00:58:56.000 You would not get Democrats rejecting it.

00:58:58.000 Right.

00:58:59.000 They just did it anyway.

00:58:59.000 Right.

00:59:01.000 Christine Quinn ruined her entire political career. 1.00

00:59:03.000 She could have been mayor. 1.00

00:59:04.000 But people have a duty to respond through force if their livelihoods are threatened.

00:59:08.000 I mean, we're supposed to defend our Constitution through blood and sweat.

00:59:11.000 Like, literally.

00:59:12.000 So if someone tried to come in and be like, your Constitution doesn't matter anything, Americans, bow down!

00:59:17.000 No, it's our job to stand up.

00:59:19.000 22nd Amendment.

00:59:21.000 Uh, limits terms.

00:59:22.000 Huh.

00:59:25.000 But yeah, yeah, so I think it's possible that they do the swap-a-roonie right before October.

00:59:30.000 Dude, I fear... I think they'd actually call it swap-a-roonie.

00:59:34.000 And I think they could get some good marketing off that.

00:59:36.000 There'd be like some dog treats they'd call swap-a-roonies. 0.87

00:59:39.000 The old switcheroo.

00:59:40.000 Right, the switcheroo, the swap-a-roonie. 0.80

00:59:43.000 Gavin Newsome W-do.

00:59:44.000 It may be.

00:59:46.000 Here's what happens.

00:59:48.000 Here's how you get rid of Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:59:50.000 In August, Joe Biden has a heart attack on stage and collapses.

00:59:54.000 Gavin Newsom runs out and saves him.

00:59:55.000 Kamala Harris then steps in as acting president to fulfill the duties as VP but says, Listen, there's no way I can mount a campaign in three months now.

01:00:05.000 Gavin's been on it already.

01:00:08.000 And that's how you get Gavin Newsom. 0.92

01:00:15.000 She's the worst. 1.00

01:00:16.000 She's so dumb. 1.00

01:00:18.000 But yeah, so last minute Biden heart attack or something. 1.00

01:00:21.000 Kamala says, Realistically, there's no way I can mount a campaign right now and I don't want to lose to Trump.

01:00:26.000 I think Gavin is going to have to step up while I feel fit.

01:00:29.000 I will not abandon this country to run a presidential campaign three months out.

01:00:34.000 That's insane.

01:00:35.000 I'm going to do my duty to this country as the first female president, and Gavin Newsom, you should vote for him.

01:00:41.000 But don't you think that her ambition would get in the way of that and she would do it anyway?

01:00:45.000 Nope.

01:00:45.000 She would like go for it?

01:00:46.000 I do not.

01:00:47.000 You don't think so?

01:00:48.000 Nope.

01:00:48.000 I think her ambition is to be on the knees for whoever's in charge.

01:00:51.000 Interesting.

01:00:53.000 Yeah, I get that vibe with her too.

01:00:54.000 I would agree with that.

01:00:55.000 You know, this whole Biden meeting with President Xi is very weird because I feel like he's like, not to be outdone by Gavin Newsom meeting with Xi.

01:01:02.000 I have to show something, some prowess.

01:01:04.000 I don't know why he would We gotta wind things down, we're a little over.

01:01:14.000 You guys get it, if I just say a few things real quick?

01:01:17.000 Do it, do it, do it.

01:01:18.000 Alright, so first off, shout out to myself.

01:01:21.000 I want to say anybody out there who needs a logo design, branding package, anything, hit me up on Instagram, on Discord.

01:01:28.000 I've got plenty of people from the Discord who have already hit me up, I've helped them out, helped them start businesses, it's been great.

01:01:34.000 So DM me here on Instagram for that.

01:01:36.000 And I wanted to shout out one of my buddies.

01:01:38.000 I'm calling on all the TimCast folks.

01:01:40.000 We need to get this guy to 1,000 followers on Instagram.

01:01:43.000 And I really want you guys to take some of his courses.

01:01:45.000 So if you are in the Southern Indiana, Northern Kentucky, or Western Ohio, he does rifle and night vision classes, where you can come out and use the night vision that they have there.

01:01:56.000 And you can bring your own rifle.

01:01:57.000 They're great classes.

01:01:58.000 His Instagram is endlesssearchdevgroup.

01:02:03.000 I say that again, it's Endless Search Dev Group.

01:02:06.000 He is like ultimate Shadow Band, so unless you type it in perfectly, it doesn't come up.

01:02:10.000 So, you know, just shout out to him.

01:02:12.000 He's a great guy, you know, great family man.

01:02:14.000 I just want him to, you know, feel the love of all you guys.

01:02:17.000 And as always, Ian, I love you.

01:02:21.000 Yeah, I love you too, man.

01:02:22.000 And I want to shout the name of your Instagram channel out.

01:02:25.000 It's shadowboxdesign.

01:02:27.000 Yeah, shadow.box.design.

01:02:28.000 Yep.

01:02:29.000 Right on, man.

01:02:29.000 Thanks for calling in.

01:02:31.000 Yep.

01:02:32.000 And, uh, the last thing is I will read this joke from Bert, who says, what's the difference between iron man and iron woman?

01:02:40.000 One is a superhero and one is a command.

01:02:43.000 Oh my goodness.

01:02:49.000 Ah, Aaron, thanks for hanging out man.

01:02:53.000 It's been a blast.

01:02:54.000 Great to be here.

01:02:55.000 Thanks for having me.

01:02:56.000 Absolutely.

01:02:56.000 Even though you got kicked off the train, you made it.

01:02:57.000 So that was fun.

01:02:59.000 It was well worth it.

01:03:00.000 Right on.

01:03:01.000 And for everybody who's a member, you guys rock.

01:03:03.000 Watch Infringed if you haven't already.

01:03:05.000 Join the Discord server and hang out.

01:03:07.000 Awesome stuff currently in the works.

01:03:08.000 Ian's working on our card game.

01:03:10.000 Yeah, I was going to talk to you about that.

01:03:11.000 Maybe a little bit after the show.

01:03:11.000 Let's get it.

01:03:12.000 Let's do it.

01:03:12.000 Alright, everybody.

01:03:13.000 We got a card game coming really, really soon.

01:03:15.000 And we're excited.

01:03:16.000 So we'll see y'all tomorrow.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 19, 2023

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