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00:00:34.000 Yeah, and it's like, you're talking as I'm pulling it up, and uh, yeah, so we gotta, we have to blanch the brussel sprouts, and uh, you know, salty hot water, and then cold water, and then I think we gotta just put a bunch of butter in a pan and fry them.

00:00:48.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:00:48.000 And the thing is, when you blanch them and you cook them in that salted water, it seasons it all the way through.

00:00:52.000 It partially cooks it.

00:00:54.000 It also gets rid of some of the bitterness, because the chlorophyll leaches out when you blanch it like that.

00:00:58.000 The chlorophyll's bitter.

00:00:59.000 And then, when you actually do cook it, you only need to cook it for a minute or so, and it's actually tender all the way through, as opposed to overcooked on the outside and raw on the inside.

00:01:07.000 Earlier today, when we were talking about business plans and, like, you know, building out these brick-and-mortar shops and stuff, We were having food, and then I mentioned it later that it's like funny because, you know, I mean, Chef Grill, you're like a master of cooking, and everybody cooks, and no one's particularly good at it, like a little bit here and there, but no one's like trained very well, so like, I had no idea what blanching even was, you explained it to me, and I'm just imagining like, you're sitting there watching, you know, Allison, she's cooking, and you're very polite, I know, but come on, like, inside, you're just being nice, and you're like, I'm not gonna say anything, but you'll be like at a friend's house watching them cook, and you know they're making a mistake or something, you know what I mean?

00:01:44.000 I mean, yeah, it'd be like if you were watching somebody try and skateboard, right?

00:01:51.000 Like you watch and you're like, oh, they're doing that kind of thing.

00:01:53.000 We're all friends here, you know, come on.

00:01:55.000 Well, you know what I'll say?

00:01:57.000 I look at ingredients and immediately you guys were using good ingredients.

00:02:00.000 So like, for me, the technique is kind of secondary to the quality of the original ingredients.

00:02:04.000 I was like, imagine Ian going up to Metallica and be like, you wanna hear the song I wrote?

00:02:08.000 Be like, sure, buddy.

00:02:09.000 Let's just like, you come on to Metallica, you know what I mean?

00:02:12.000 But let's uh, let's talk about the story.

00:02:14.000 This story is a story about a story, that's why I want to talk about it.

00:02:16.000 Because Dave Portnoy, he absolutely roasts this Washington Post reporter and recorded it. 1.00

00:02:21.000 I want you to hear just the beginning part, because he fucking destroys these scumbags. 0.99

00:02:26.000 It's, it's so good. 0.99

00:02:27.000 I'm sorry man. 0.99

00:02:28.000 This is, this is, this is awesome shit. 0.99

00:02:30.000 Check this out, let me play it for you. 0.99

00:02:33.000 Hey Emily, this is Dave Portnoy calling. 0.88

00:02:35.000 Uh, I'm recording you right now, but I've noticed a bunch of people you're, it seems like you're sending, we have this pizza fest happening on Saturday and you're reaching out to our advertisers and you're basically sending an email that says to the effect, Dave's a misogynic racist.

00:02:54.000 Do you want to defend yourselves advertising at this event?

00:02:57.000 Right?

00:02:57.000 I'm sorry.

00:02:58.000 What's your name, Dave?

00:02:59.000 I'm sorry.

00:03:01.000 I'm the guy you're writing the article about, Dave Portnoy.

00:03:03.000 Oh, you're Dave Portnoy.

00:03:04.000 Oh, hey, how are you?

00:03:05.000 Good.

00:03:06.000 Good.

00:03:07.000 No, I'm not.

00:03:08.000 I haven't said anything like that.

00:03:10.000 Well, I can read if you want.

00:03:14.000 If you want, I can read what you actually sent.

00:03:16.000 I have it.

00:03:17.000 Yeah, yeah, read.

00:03:18.000 Because I sent a bunch of notes, so I want to make sure I know which ones Okay.

00:03:23.000 Uh, we are planning to write about the festival and how, and how some of the sponsors and participants have drawn criticism by seemingly to associate themselves with Dave Portnoy, who has a history of misogynistic comments and other problematic behavior.

00:03:36.000 I want to make sure that Blank had a chance to respond to this since the company is the most prominent and their partners of his festival.

00:03:42.000 Oh, that's the one I sent to ****, which was definitely the most poignant of them because I really did want them to respond and I was hoping to get something from Do you think that's fair?

00:03:51.000 Like, I totally disagree with the assertions of what you said, that I'm misogynic and all that stuff.

00:03:57.000 Misogynic.

00:03:58.000 It kind of backs people into a corner.

00:04:00.000 So I'm happy to go over anything.

00:04:02.000 I mean, you have, that is pretty pointed.

00:04:04.000 You said you didn't do it.

00:04:05.000 Then I have the exact evidence.

00:04:07.000 So that's the, there's a lot more.

00:04:09.000 He then said that they canceled their 10 a.m.

00:04:10.000 call.

00:04:11.000 Shocker.

00:04:12.000 He proposed 5 p.m.

00:04:12.000 instead.

00:04:13.000 It's 10 a.m.

00:04:13.000 or nothing.

00:04:14.000 They refused.

00:04:15.000 This is why this is so important.

00:04:17.000 What Dave Portnoy is calling out is that these are not journalists.

00:04:20.000 They're activists.

00:04:21.000 The Washington- So they're doing Pizza Fest, because Dave Portnoy does this thing where he reviews pizza.

00:04:26.000 I like these videos, I gotta tell you.

00:04:28.000 I follow Dave, and when you- and I see a video popping up, I'm like, I'd like to learn about this pizza.

00:04:31.000 I'm like, interested.

00:04:32.000 And he walks out, he's like, here's the pizza, I'm gonna try it.

00:04:34.000 It's fun!

00:04:35.000 It's like a minute to watch.

00:04:36.000 But so, they sent- this journalist sends an email out saying he's a misogynistic racist, and why would you associate with him?

00:04:44.000 That's not journalism.

00:04:45.000 At all.

00:04:46.000 What they're trying to do is terrify sponsors and get them to drop out. 1.00

00:04:52.000 These people are fucked in the head. 1.00

00:04:53.000 These are evil, evil people. 1.00

00:04:55.000 They are not journalists.

00:04:56.000 Journalism died a long time ago, but shout out to Dave Portnoy for calling it out.

00:05:01.000 That's the right way to deal with the so-called journalists that act this way.

00:05:05.000 You know, put them on the spot, record it all, and brilliantly done.

00:05:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:05:08.000 I mean, I, part of me, it is kind of frustrating that it's, it's, it's been, it's been a decade plus of this shit and it never ends, you know? 0.98

00:05:16.000 You know, what's funny though, is she's like, yeah, can you please read me the email? 0.95

00:05:19.000 Um, cause I sent a lot.

00:05:20.000 So she's almost like, she's like, I actually probably have worse emails.

00:05:24.000 So I want to know which one you, you caught me.

00:05:26.000 Well, it'd be funnier if she was like, ha! 0.99

00:05:28.000 That one?

00:05:28.000 Yeah, that was nothing.

00:05:30.000 Yeah, that ain't nothing!

00:05:31.000 And this really isn't a threat against Portnoy.

00:05:34.000 I mean, it's an attack against Portnoy, but it's a threat against the company saying, oh, if you are associated with Dave Portnoy, it's your company that we're going to say is associated with this stuff.

00:05:43.000 So it's a threat against the company itself to say, if you associate with Dave, you're going to be on the On the chopping block.

00:05:49.000 You're going to be in the hit list now.

00:05:50.000 And if you listen to that interview all the way through, like you and I were listening to it together, it's just like the way she tries to talk her way out of it.

00:05:57.000 It's corporate doublespeak.

00:05:59.000 It's infuriating.

00:05:59.000 Listen to this.

00:06:00.000 Listen to this.

00:06:00.000 Let me play another clip.

00:06:01.000 Sometimes you have to say something like, this is like, you know, it's sort of a reporting tactic.

00:06:06.000 When you want someone to respond, you kind of have to indicate that there might be something negative and then you get them to engage.

00:06:11.000 That's all I was trying to do.

00:06:13.000 I really wanted them to engage with me.

00:06:14.000 That's a laud state of journalism if that's a tactic that you have to, what I would say is make up something about somebody.

00:06:23.000 There might be something negative and so you want to give people a chance to respond and have a conversation with you.

00:06:31.000 But at the same time, you're saying you don't know that that's actually truth.

00:06:35.000 So you're leading with something that you haven't done enough research to know if it's valid.

00:06:40.000 I'm saying that might be a fuller picture.

00:06:42.000 And that's what I want to talk to you about. 1.00

00:06:45.000 These people are fucking pieces of shit. 1.00

00:06:49.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

00:06:50.000 It's not journalism. 1.00

00:06:51.000 That's not a reporting tactic.

00:06:52.000 She's lying. 1.00

00:06:53.000 She is a despicable, evil piece of shit. 1.00

00:06:55.000 Dave's too nice to her. 1.00

00:06:57.000 She probably believes herself.

00:06:58.000 That's the scary thing.

00:06:59.000 As she's manipulating and bullshitting, she's probably thinking in her mind, yeah, yeah, that's what I was doing.

00:07:04.000 Yeah, I'm good at this.

00:07:05.000 I mean, the thing is, they think that, well, they're activists looking to...

00:07:09.000 You know, looking to make a political statement or hinder people that have differing political opinions.

00:07:15.000 And so, anything is open game.

00:07:18.000 Like, it's just about power and it's just about smearing Portnoy to do whatever they can to affect his influence.

00:07:26.000 They want to lower his influence, lower his ability to reach people and stuff.

00:07:31.000 And anything is open game.

00:07:33.000 It doesn't matter if it's true It's just if they can get people to have a negative opinion of a person, whether it be Portnoy or Russell Brand or whoever, Rudy Giuliani or whatever, it doesn't matter what they've actually done or what the truth is because

00:07:52.000 And I talk about this fairly frequently when you're dealing with certain people that are this type of authoritarian person that they don't care about the truth.

00:08:01.000 They don't have any, they're not looking to come to expose anything about honesty or the truth.

00:08:09.000 It's all a power game.

00:08:11.000 They don't believe in liberal principles.

00:08:13.000 They're authoritarians.

00:08:15.000 They are completely comfortable with destroying someone's life because they have a different political opinion.

00:08:22.000 This is a reflection of the actual political warfare going on in the US, and it's not just in the realm of politics.

00:08:30.000 Anyone that has the ability to influence people...

00:08:34.000 In what we would consider a positive way.

00:08:37.000 Do things for yourself.

00:08:38.000 Go out and make something of your own, of your life.

00:08:41.000 Go and do things to better your community, better your family, have a family.

00:08:44.000 These kind of things that are fairly traditional values that are exceedingly inoffensive, but they want to do what they can to discredit people that would promote those values, specifically people like Dave that have been successful and have made money and have a voice.

00:09:00.000 And that's all it is.

00:09:01.000 It's a smear tactic.

00:09:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:03.000 They're dirty smear merchants. 0.99

00:09:04.000 So here's what happens. 0.96

00:09:05.000 Mincy, uh, one of the personalities for Barstool, raps some lyrics, which includes the n-word.

00:09:13.000 But, uh, in a rap song.

00:09:15.000 He gets fired from Barstool because Barstool was owned by Penn Entertainment.

00:09:18.000 They did a deal with Dave Portnoy.

00:09:20.000 They bought him out.

00:09:21.000 If you go to your local Hollywood, you see the big Barstool sports book and bar.

00:09:26.000 They're really fun.

00:09:27.000 I love it.

00:09:27.000 Out at Charlestown Hollywood Casino.

00:09:29.000 You go to the Barstool sports book.

00:09:31.000 You can make sports bets.

00:09:32.000 You can order food.

00:09:33.000 There's little kiosks.

00:09:34.000 It really is fun.

00:09:35.000 They have this big TV.

00:09:36.000 It's probably like 20 or 30 feet.

00:09:38.000 Massive!

00:09:39.000 You can watch the game.

00:09:41.000 It's a blast!

00:09:42.000 Well, they fire Mincy. 1.00

00:09:43.000 Dave comes out and says, look, I have no control over this. 0.99

00:09:46.000 They're talking about pulling gaming licenses from these casinos over this kind of shit. 1.00

00:09:51.000 And he's like, I'm not the boss anymore, right? 0.99

00:09:52.000 We sold.

00:09:54.000 So what Dave does is he hires Mincy at a different company of his to keep Mincy working.

00:09:59.000 Awesome.

00:10:00.000 Class act.

00:10:01.000 And then here's the best part.

00:10:03.000 Hollywood Casinos, Penn Entertainment.

00:10:06.000 Gives the company back to Dave Portnoy. 0.99

00:10:09.000 I kid you fucking not. 0.97

00:10:11.000 A $500 million deal to Dave Portnoy, and they gave him the company back. 0.98

00:10:14.000 And they said, if you ever sell it, we get half. 0.97

00:10:17.000 And Dave's like, I ain't fucking selling it. 0.96

00:10:18.000 Immediately hires Mincy back. 0.96

00:10:20.000 So you want to know why they're coming after him and why they're angry? 1.00

00:10:23.000 Because they want to send the message, if you rap, we fuck you. 1.00

00:10:28.000 Yep. 1.00

00:10:28.000 Dave just said, fuck, no you don't. 1.00

00:10:31.000 They've gotta go after him and they can't allow Barstool to be a pri- It's sports, man. 1.00

00:10:36.000 Barstool's not, not... It's sports.

00:10:39.000 It's not political.

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00:11:43.000 Dave's not gonna fire a guy for this stupid bullshit and they need him to. 0.99

00:11:46.000 They can't have media institutions that will say, ah man, just apologize and we'll move on. 1.00

00:11:51.000 Who gives a fuck? 0.99

00:11:52.000 They can't have that. 1.00

00:11:53.000 They need you to beg.

00:11:54.000 And so long as other media outlets grow and build influence, they're in bad shape.

00:12:00.000 This is good news.

00:12:01.000 What we're seeing here shows that not only are they losing, Dave Portnoy is smacking them down to their faces, but the fact that Barstool is growing and doing their thing and going back independent shows that they're losing their institutional power.

00:12:14.000 And you know what's going to happen over the next week, two weeks?

00:12:16.000 They're all going to come after Dave because he embarrassed them.

00:12:19.000 And the Washington Post is up there on the rung of, you know, do not embarrass us.

00:12:24.000 We are setting the standards.

00:12:26.000 So they're all going to start coming after him.

00:12:28.000 It was the insider who did the original hit, and he completely dragged them through the mud.

00:12:31.000 But the insider was kind of, like, fringe to begin with.

00:12:34.000 Oh, they're going to accuse him of rape, huh?

00:12:36.000 Yeah, this is the playoffs, and now we're going into the World Series.

00:12:38.000 In two days, they're going to be like, uh, several rape accusers just came out.

00:12:42.000 Well, they did that, but it's gonna keep coming.

00:12:43.000 Today in Portnoy?

00:12:44.000 Yeah, yeah, that's what Insider was about.

00:12:46.000 They did that whole- Oh, right, right, that's right!

00:12:48.000 They already tried it! 1.00

00:12:50.000 Every man is a rapist now these days, holy fuck. 1.00

00:12:55.000 We'll all remember this conversation, it's coming. 1.00

00:12:58.000 Another thing about the whole rape accusations and stuff like that, men and women have not had so much animosity towards each other at any other point in human history that I can think of, or anything like this.

00:13:11.000 The battle of the sexes and stuff like that, Pitting men and women against each other. 0.70

00:13:15.000 It's terrible for society.

00:13:17.000 Men and women need each other desperately, desperately need each other, like really badly.

00:13:23.000 And all of this stuff makes men say, it's not worth getting married.

00:13:28.000 I'm going to end up, you know, she'll divorce me. 0.97

00:13:31.000 She's going to meet someone that's got more money, someone more successful.

00:13:34.000 She's going to take the kids. 1.00

00:13:35.000 She's going to take all my money. 1.00

00:13:36.000 But like, there is almost nothing beneficial.

00:13:41.000 There is no narrative for a young man to get married that looks good. 0.92

00:13:46.000 And my piece of advice to that is that when you do find the right person, you lock that down.

00:13:51.000 I met my wife, we were married in five weeks and now we have four kids.

00:13:54.000 Wow.

00:13:55.000 Five weeks.

00:13:56.000 Five weeks we were married.

00:13:57.000 Good on ya, but that is not typical.

00:13:59.000 I had to lock it down.

00:14:00.000 And this is, and this is, the thing is dudes don't want to lock it down though.

00:14:05.000 Dudes are saying the whole MGTOW stuff and all, and people like, the reason people like Sneeko are getting the, uh, getting attention and Zerkaa are getting attention is because of the way that women behave towards men. 0.97

00:14:21.000 I'm not a fan of Sneeko or Zerkaa's content.

00:14:25.000 They're funny, but I'm a 40-something year old guy.

00:14:29.000 10, 11, 12, 13 year old kids shouldn't be watching this.

00:14:32.000 This shouldn't be how they form their opinion of women. 0.82

00:14:35.000 By dudes like, like those dudes are the last dudes that you want a kid whose mother raised him, dad wasn't around, and these are the clowns that are the, you know, the parental figure or the authority figures as adults.

00:14:49.000 I mean, regardless of what your opinion on Tate is, he's not the kind of dude that you want young guys emulating.

00:14:58.000 He's just not.

00:14:59.000 You want young guys that are like, I want to be a family guy.

00:15:02.000 I want to have, you know- Jason Howardson.

00:15:04.000 Yeah, exactly!

00:15:05.000 Though, good people that want good things for their community, not, you know, just to load their bank account up and stuff.

00:15:12.000 So it's like, it's horrible.

00:15:14.000 You want all these things, but I'll tell you what's gonna happen. 0.83

00:15:16.000 People are just gonna plug into their neural links and then go have cyber, robo AI sex in the metaverse.

00:15:22.000 I mean, it's not that I don't disagree, but... 0.99

00:15:26.000 It's gonna be weird shit, dude. 0.99

00:15:28.000 Like, people's brains will be fractured. 0.99

00:15:30.000 Yeah!

00:15:30.000 No, but for real, like, they're gonna make babies in bags.

00:15:33.000 That's what they're talking about doing already.

00:15:35.000 And people's sexualities will be so fractured and psychotic that humans won't be able to, outside of the pods, actually interact with each other anymore. 0.98

00:15:45.000 Like, already you've got dudes' brains broken by porn.

00:15:49.000 Imagine what the AI metaverse Neuralink is going to be for these people who are plugged in.

00:15:53.000 Well, you have no survival instinct.

00:15:55.000 You were done as a species.

00:15:56.000 I mean, there's going to be the elites, and then there's going to be all of those that are plugged in.

00:16:00.000 The elites will be plugged in, but on a different level, right?

00:16:02.000 Like, they're going to be plugged into... Yeah, they're going to have mods.

00:16:04.000 They're in first class.

00:16:05.000 They're going to have administrative controls over you. 0.95

00:16:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:08.000 That's gonna be fucked up. 0.94

00:16:10.000 But I think a lot of people will be in singular universes, where it's just them and then a bunch of AI people, like, they're playing GTA for the rest of their life. 0.98

00:16:17.000 And then they'll come out periodically, but they'll have the feeding tube with the bugs plugged in their neck.

00:16:22.000 They're not gonna want to leave it!

00:16:23.000 The Matrix!

00:16:24.000 I think that was the original story, that people chose to be in the Matrix.

00:16:26.000 So how does the reproduction occur then?

00:16:28.000 In bags.

00:16:30.000 Like, who's determining...

00:16:30.000 At whose behest?

00:16:34.000 So elites won't go in the matrix the same way that regular people will, right?

00:16:39.000 For instance, the average person plays video games, you know, I shouldn't say the average person, but there are a lot of people who play video games endlessly and do nothing.

00:16:46.000 Young people who don't go out, don't get jobs, they call them hikikomori in Japan.

00:16:50.000 Elites don't have that problem.

00:16:52.000 So, the people who are going to be in the pods are going to be the lower class, the uneducated, the working class that are excised from society due to technological advancements and automation. 1.00

00:17:03.000 The elites, they'll have Neuralink to a certain degree, but they'll stay in real life, where they'll own and control everything.

00:17:10.000 Look, for what reason would a multi-millionaire playboy have for going into the metaverse?

00:17:17.000 Pleasure principle.

00:17:18.000 Look, you get some dude who lives in his basement, he's gonna want to be a knight in shining armor saving the

00:17:22.000 princess.

00:17:23.000 But, Joe Rogan?

00:17:24.000 He's gonna be like, dude, I have all of these really awesome things that I love.

00:17:28.000 So he might go and sometimes, like I play Baldur's Gate, but I don't dedicate all of my time to playing Baldur's

00:17:34.000 Gate, wishing that I was in there fighting dragons and stuff like that.

00:17:37.000 No.

00:17:38.000 Yeah, well, I mean, that's the problem.

00:17:40.000 It's the facsimile of success, or the facsimile of relationships with AI, something like that.

00:17:45.000 I think the ultimate goal of the elites is to live forever, right?

00:17:49.000 I mean, they talk pretty openly about that, and at this point, they think they're on the technological cusp of multiple forms of living forever, whether that's reversing aging and living forever physically, or not having a natural death physically, or by uploading their consciousness to computers.

00:18:03.000 Let them do that.

00:18:04.000 Well, here's the problem.

00:18:05.000 Obviously that's an unsustainable, like, not everybody can take advantage of that, right?

00:18:09.000 You can't have everybody living forever.

00:18:11.000 You can't, because you can't have infinite birth without death.

00:18:13.000 Let them upload because they're just gonna die because you can't upload your consciousness to a computer.

00:18:19.000 Your brain is your consciousness.

00:18:21.000 Like, I'm not a dude, I'm like, I'm a very secular dude.

00:18:24.000 I'm not, I'm an agnostic.

00:18:26.000 I don't really particularly believe in spirits or souls.

00:18:29.000 Your brain is why you have consciousness.

00:18:32.000 You don't get to upload your consciousness, and your consciousness is not something that's detached from your brain.

00:18:38.000 Your brain is your consciousness.

00:18:40.000 Maybe you could plug your brain into tubes and keep your brain alive, but the idea of uploading into a computer, I don't buy it.

00:18:50.000 Not at all.

00:18:50.000 So let them try.

00:18:51.000 Go ahead. 0.95

00:18:52.000 Throw your body away, upload your brain into a computer, and they can do whatever they want. 0.76

00:18:57.000 That's the meme.

00:18:58.000 It's a guy looking at- it's like, I think, American Psycho looking up, Christian Bale, and it's like you looking up from hell watching your AI clone live the rest of your life or whatever.

00:19:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:12.000 That's how I see it personally, so sorry to cut you off.

00:19:15.000 No, no, but either way, whether you believe it or not, that's what these people believe, right?

00:19:19.000 So a lot of what they're doing now is trying to set up a situation where they can have immortality in whatever form it takes, and obviously not everybody can have access to immortality techniques, immortality tech.

00:19:35.000 And that's an impossibility for everybody to have it, so certain elites will have it, and they'll essentially be, at that point, gods amongst humans, and they'll be able to dispense immortality to everybody who serves them.

00:19:47.000 So all the regular mortal humans will be in a situation where they have this treat dangling out for them.

00:19:53.000 You too can be immortal if you serve us, if you do our bidding.

00:19:57.000 So I mean, that's the ultimate goal of all of this.

00:20:00.000 is essentially the fulfillment of the serpent's promise in the Garden of Eden, right?

00:20:04.000 Follow me and you too will be as gods.

00:20:06.000 They want to set themselves up as gods, immortal beings who dispense immortality to the mortals if they serve them and praise them and worship them correctly, which people will.

00:20:16.000 Personally, I don't have a problem with the idea of extending lives and stuff like that.

00:20:22.000 If we can get it to the point where technology can extend people's lives, fine.

00:20:28.000 I don't have that gut revulsion that some people feel to that.

00:20:34.000 But that being said, it's not like we should be encouraging these people to do experiments and stuff on Hello everyone!

00:20:46.000 My name is Kyle.

00:20:46.000 I don't see I see a lot of problems coming personally. Let's uh, let's jump to callers

00:20:51.000 Let's jump to our callers to see what y'all have to say. We got adventure kyle's we are pulling you in sir

00:20:57.000 I hope you are prepared Hello everyone, what up? My name is kyle. I'm a geologist

00:21:04.000 trying to escape from california and I have a question for the whole group

00:21:10.000 Okay, as does the house financial services committee's passage of a bill to ban the federal reserve from creating

00:21:16.000 a centralized Digital currency actually mean anything?

00:21:20.000 Or is it another meaningless gesture from Republicans?

00:21:25.000 I'm sorry, man, they're all meaningless gestures.

00:21:28.000 Like, you saw they found Matt Gaetz's bill to remove McCarthy in the bathroom?

00:21:32.000 On a baby changing table?

00:21:33.000 Yeah, it's just like, I don't know, man.

00:21:35.000 Passing that bill is not going to do anything because ultimately it's not going to push through any other level of government.

00:21:40.000 And then if they want to do it, they're going to do it because there's so many of these agencies now that are just independent from any legislative process that if they decide that's what they want to do, that's what they're going to do.

00:21:49.000 It maybe raises awareness.

00:21:51.000 It's also probably not going to happen through the Federal Reserve.

00:21:52.000 It'll happen through a supranational organization like the IMF or something like that.

00:21:57.000 I mean, it's all going towards global government, which already is being built.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, I don't imagine that The House passing it is going to matter much considering the Senate isn't going to pass it, or the Senate's Democrats, and if the House passed it, it's going to look like a Republican bill.

00:22:14.000 The Democrats are going to say no.

00:22:15.000 And I don't think that there's any incentive for the President to veto or to pass that kind of Limitation on the government.

00:22:25.000 The government doesn't like to limit itself.

00:22:27.000 It doesn't want to, at all.

00:22:28.000 That's why the government hates the Constitution, hates the Bill of Rights, because all these things limit government.

00:22:33.000 That's why they're constantly trying to get around it, so I don't see any compelling reason to believe that even if the Republicans could pass a bill with teeth, I don't see it getting past the Senate, and I certainly don't see the President signing it.

00:22:47.000 I wonder if there was no Constitution, would the country, would the United States Revolt more often.

00:22:55.000 Maybe.

00:22:55.000 Because I'm wondering if the Constitution is effectively a speed bump for tyrants.

00:23:00.000 It makes it harder for them.

00:23:02.000 It does protect our God-given rights. 0.99

00:23:05.000 But if they were to just rapidly oppress and the government expanded too much, people might just lose their fucking minds faster. 0.96

00:23:11.000 And it might actually resolve the issues. 0.98

00:23:13.000 I don't know.

00:23:15.000 Well, I mean, I think, yeah, you know, the Constitution, your rights are not what's on some piece of paper, it's what you're willing to fight for, to quote my predecessor at InfoWars, David Knight.

00:23:24.000 And, yeah, I think you're right, it is speed bumps to tyrants, but the problem is that we have lost the underlying philosophy that makes the things in the Constitution important.

00:23:34.000 It's not important because it's in the Constitution, free speech is important because it's necessary for a free society, and if you lose sight of that, which a lot of Americans have, than the fact that it's on a piece of paper written 200 years ago doesn't matter.

00:23:46.000 You know what I realized, though?

00:23:48.000 That this country would be substantially better off if there was no constitution at all, but I was the sole monarch authority of the nation, because only I know what is right for everybody, and I realized that.

00:24:01.000 But then I also realized there's probably millions of people who would stand in my way to achieving my utopia and securing peace and harmony for my new empire, and they'll have to be disposed of.

00:24:12.000 The thing is, when you're plugged in, all of this can become a reality.

00:24:17.000 That's called the Darth Vader.

00:24:19.000 Jason Cost, our drummer, he used to be like, he's like, Phil, you talk about politics, and then I think one thing, and then I hear you explain other stuff, and then I'm just like, well, we just have to get Darth Vader to kill everybody then.

00:24:32.000 He's like, I don't have the patience you do to talk about this stuff.

00:24:35.000 He's like, I think the lightsabers should come out.

00:24:37.000 You know, it's funny when you, when you talk to people that aren't in politics, like we are like, cause you know, obviously we are aware that like our voices are listened to by people.

00:24:46.000 So we're like, then you go and talk to like your, your neighbor down the street and they're just like, I got my gun ready.

00:24:51.000 I'm ready.

00:24:52.000 I'm just waiting for the, like, people are out there are ready to go, man.

00:24:56.000 Like to a very, very good.

00:24:58.000 Have you been to Appalachia?

00:24:59.000 And it's funny because I have these people and I'll like, I'll say like, hey man, I'm concerned about civil war.

00:25:04.000 And then these left is like, oh, touch grass.

00:25:06.000 It's like, you're the one screaming about insurrection, dude.

00:25:08.000 But have you been to Appalachia and talk to these people? 0.99

00:25:13.000 It's scary as shit. 0.97

00:25:15.000 Yeah, they're ready. 0.99

00:25:15.000 People out here in the mountains are like, they've always been very anti-establishment, put it that 0.99

00:25:22.000 way.

00:25:22.000 It's the classic quote, those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.

00:25:26.000 I mean, they are proving time and time again that they're, and it's almost on purpose, that they're rubbing our face in the fact that you cannot vote your way out of this, you cannot peacefully protest your way out of this, we will arrest you and throw you in jail for the next 20 years if you try.

00:25:43.000 But, you know, so we're in this sort of impossible situation because, you know, obviously if there was some sort of civil war situation, if the government that we have now is still in existence when, you know, you have a mass amount of people rising up, you think our government would hesitate for a single second to invite the UN in, to invite even, you know, the Chinese troops?

00:26:02.000 Personally, I don't even think that an invite is necessary.

00:26:04.000 The United States has too many nuclear missiles.

00:26:07.000 So the UN, if there were a significant, sizable civil conflict that broke down into, you know, multiple factions, because it wouldn't be, you know, North versus South or whatever, it would be factions fighting, it'd be like Syria.

00:26:21.000 I think that there is ample, ample justification for the UN to say, we need to go ahead and get all of the countries that are in NATO.

00:26:31.000 Yep.

00:26:31.000 Get into the US, invade, take over to secure the nuclear weapons.

00:26:36.000 Save them from themselves.

00:26:37.000 100%.

00:26:37.000 There is no part of me that thinks that that's outside of the question.

00:26:42.000 So that's why I used to be very pro- U.S.

00:26:48.000 divorce or, you know, civil divorce or whatever, you know, national divorce and stuff.

00:26:51.000 I'm not so sure it's a good idea anymore because if you try it, I think that that is an in for actual globalist military to come in and use, securing nuclear weapons as a reason.

00:27:02.000 And then we're all immigrating to Mexico.

00:27:06.000 Good sir, we certainly went wild on your question.

00:27:09.000 I'm wondering if you wanted to elaborate or if that was sufficient because we kind of went way off the rails.

00:27:14.000 I forgot what the question was.

00:27:16.000 Exactly.

00:27:17.000 Oh, CBDC, yeah.

00:27:19.000 So my understanding then is we just need to wreck shop and get new people in?

00:27:24.000 We need to elect Trump.

00:27:25.000 Yeah, I mean.

00:27:26.000 Because there's a lot that could come after.

00:27:28.000 And everyone, it's, look man, when I say vote for Trump, I am not saying all your problems are solved.

00:27:34.000 I'm saying, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:27:36.000 Before whatever it is you're thinking about, We see if this Trump thing works.

00:27:42.000 That's all I'm saying. 0.99

00:27:43.000 Who knows what the fuck happens afterwards. 0.92

00:27:46.000 Yeah, I think the problem is that they're going to implement this CBDC sort of whether we like it or not, and it's likely going to come after a massive false flag cyber attack that shuts everything down. 0.95

00:28:01.000 And they're going to go, hey, look, this fractured independent system with all these banks and the cash, it's too unsafe.

00:28:07.000 It's too unstable.

00:28:08.000 We have to have a centralized digital currency.

00:28:10.000 And then that digital currency will be, it'll expire.

00:28:13.000 You'll only be able to, you know, use it.

00:28:15.000 I think it's a mistake.

00:28:17.000 I think what's actually gonna happen is there will be a cyber 9-11 that hits the banks and then they will say, fear not good citizen, your income is, your money is insured by the FDIC.

00:28:28.000 Just download central bank app in your play, in the play store, the app store, enter your social security number, take a picture of ID, we'll verify your account and you will get the equivalent of all of the money you had in your bank in central bank digital currency.

00:28:41.000 They won't call it CBDC.

00:28:42.000 They'll just, they'll call it the new app And they'll say, this is how we recover from this crisis.

00:28:47.000 Yeah.

00:28:47.000 And that's, you know.

00:28:48.000 But, uh, anyway, let's, uh, we'll jump to our next caller.

00:28:51.000 So, thanks for calling in, buddy.

00:28:56.000 You good?

00:28:57.000 Thanks.

00:28:57.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:28:58.000 Alright, thanks for calling in, man.

00:29:00.000 We will jump to our next caller.

00:29:02.000 And we have Dex2735.

00:29:06.000 Welcome to the year 2023.

00:29:09.000 What's it like in the year 2735?

00:29:13.000 Uh, you know, we're all in the pods, eating bugs.

00:29:16.000 Still!

00:29:17.000 The usual.

00:29:18.000 What's going on?

00:29:20.000 So my question has to do with the stuff going on with Russell Brand.

00:29:26.000 So basically, you know, given that they're showing signs of desperation, trying to silence anybody that speaks out against the narrative, do you think that they might Uh, do you think they might actually, I guess, ramp up their attacks against Trump?

00:29:42.000 Maybe, you know, to, uh, I guess, try to put it lightly?

00:29:47.000 Or not putting it lightly, but... Shuffle him loose, this mortal coil?

00:29:54.000 I was gonna say, give him a ride in a convertible limousine.

00:29:59.000 Um, man, someone in 2015, I think it was, tried to kill him.

00:30:03.000 Right?

00:30:03.000 That guy who tried to grab the gun from the cop and they had to drag him out?

00:30:06.000 You just said a guy tried sneaking into an RFK Jr.

00:30:08.000 event with weapons, pretending to be a security guard.

00:30:12.000 I don't know, man.

00:30:13.000 I wouldn't put anything past them, but I will say this.

00:30:16.000 They don't do assassinations for the most part anymore.

00:30:18.000 They do character assassinations. 0.99

00:30:19.000 The problem is they accuse Trump of rape and nobody gives a shit. 1.00

00:30:23.000 It's like, they're like, well, Russell Brand's a rapist. 1.00

00:30:25.000 Don't care. 1.00

00:30:26.000 Trump's a rapist. 1.00

00:30:26.000 Yep. 1.00

00:30:27.000 Heard that one before.

00:30:28.000 The other problem is that, you know, the Trump supporters are so suspicious of something like that, I think they're kind of terrified of anything happening.

00:30:36.000 I mean, I think if Trump had a heart attack tomorrow, nobody would buy it. 0.87

00:30:39.000 Everybody would be like, oh, they killed him, time to go crazy. 0.76

00:30:42.000 So it's almost like the... Keep him alive.

00:30:45.000 Yeah, they want to keep him alive just because they know that Americans will go insane if anything happens to him, which is sort of like the best protection he has at this point.

00:30:52.000 Jailing him is their answer, right?

00:30:54.000 And the thing is that there's not just one way to jail him, they're going to try and come at it from every single angle.

00:30:59.000 That's the avenue by which they're going to basically, quote, assassinate him is by leaving him in jail as long as possible and make sure he's not on the ballot.

00:31:08.000 Well, yeah, but I think, given what happened with the Mugshot, I think that's only going to make him stronger, and I don't know. 0.87

00:31:17.000 That's just my thoughts.

00:31:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that flipped on them.

00:31:19.000 They weren't anticipating that, right?

00:31:21.000 So they obviously have to take a detour now, but I still think that ultimately that's the endgame.

00:31:25.000 Now it's just a matter of how they kind of work the strategy through along the way.

00:31:30.000 Yeah, I think Trump should legitimately have, like, a Praetorian Guard.

00:31:34.000 Like, he needs, like, 200 veterans who just, like, pledge a blood oath to protect him with their lives against anybody, even, like, the lawful authorities of the United States.

00:31:44.000 Say psych, please.

00:31:45.000 Personalized armies are not so good!

00:31:48.000 No, no, I'm not advocating for it, I'm just like, it's like, that's, you know, that's... They'll get him, look what they did to Gaddafi, right? 0.55

00:31:54.000 I mean, that guy had so many people protecting him.

00:31:56.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:31:58.000 Yeah, man.

00:31:59.000 I don't know, that's a tough question, but I think...

00:32:01.000 You ain't seen nothing yet. 0.98

00:32:03.000 2024 is gonna be fucking nuts, bro. 0.99

00:32:06.000 There's gonna be videos of, like, you know, Phil punching a cat or something. 1.00

00:32:11.000 It's just like, you just, you name it, like, if you weren't any way involved in politics, there's gonna be weird-ass, wacky shit people are gonna just make with fake AI bullshit. 0.99

00:32:21.000 There's going to be a video of Trump spitting on a homeless guy. 0.99

00:32:25.000 And people are going to be like, is that real?

00:32:27.000 I don't know anymore.

00:32:28.000 And then what's going to happen is the media is going to report shocking video of Trump spitting on a homeless person emerges.

00:32:33.000 And then all at the bottom of the article, after 7,000 words, it'll say, the video may be fake.

00:32:38.000 We're not sure.

00:32:39.000 Yeah.

00:32:40.000 I don't know.

00:32:42.000 When Chase Geiser made the AI of me, my voice, my mom was like, oh my gosh, this AI stuff, it's so scary, I don't know what to trust anymore.

00:32:51.000 My response was like, do you trust things now?

00:32:53.000 Like, wait, what do you mean now you don't know how to trust?

00:32:56.000 You should have not been trusting anything for the last 20 years unless you can actually find logical or rational or tangible proof of what you're seeing.

00:33:05.000 Trust the lobster, Harrison.

00:33:06.000 Trust the lobster.

00:33:09.000 Thank you, Jordan.

00:33:11.000 I will be the Lobster King.

00:33:13.000 Yep.

00:33:16.000 Well, was that was that good, sir?

00:33:16.000 All right.

00:33:17.000 Yeah, but I also have just one quick question.

00:33:22.000 Get it.

00:33:24.000 So, Trump was recently open to the idea of having a female vice president.

00:33:28.000 This actually got me a little concerned.

00:33:30.000 Maybe he's hinting at Nikki Haley possibly being his running mate.

00:33:35.000 What are you guys' thoughts on that?

00:33:38.000 I think he was hinting at Kristi Noem.

00:33:40.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:33:41.000 Maybe Gnome.

00:33:43.000 I mean, I gotta be honest, I don't know.

00:33:44.000 If Trump picks Nikki Haley, I don't know if I'd vote for him.

00:33:48.000 I don't think he likes her.

00:33:49.000 He was really perturbed at the way that she quasi-turned on him after the- Christy Gnome's good.

00:33:54.000 Yeah, that might be a good bet, you know?

00:33:57.000 Look, man, I'm at like 51% for Trump, right?

00:34:04.000 Michael Malice's mentality, I'm pretty sure that's what he was saying, is that Biden being in office is good. 0.99

00:34:08.000 It just continually hurts them and makes them look incompetent, pathetic, and bad. 0.94

00:34:13.000 And so you've got the, it's almost a kind of accelerationist view. 1.00

00:34:17.000 Let the old bumbling, fumbling moron sit in the chair and just destroy their credibility more and more and shatter the confidence in the establishment. 1.00

00:34:27.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:34:28.000 I don't know, though, because I think that what it reveals is that Biden is not really in charge, that there are people behind the scenes operating.

00:34:35.000 I mean... I disagree with that.

00:34:37.000 Really?

00:34:38.000 The chaos of the federal government is so insane, it could only be Joe Biden!

00:34:43.000 Like, when Afghanistan happened, when they were withdrawn, there was no plan whatsoever. 1.00

00:34:48.000 It was just random bullshit happening. 0.95

00:34:50.000 And, like, people were, like, random officials were just going in random directions. 0.99

00:34:54.000 They leave Bagram.

00:34:55.000 There's no plan there.

00:34:56.000 Everybody keeps saying there's a puppet master behind Biden.

00:34:58.000 I'm like, I don't know, this kind of makes sense.

00:35:00.000 There's no strategy for anything.

00:35:02.000 First, Biden's like, Bidenomics is doing great!

00:35:04.000 And then when the economy falls, it's Morganomics!

00:35:06.000 Like, This what I see with the fractured and um what's what's the right what's the right word dejected uh dejected state of the government.

00:35:17.000 It makes perfect sense that people are taking orders from Biden who's whacked out of his mind and can't think straight.

00:35:23.000 Like, if there was a cohesive plan, you would see things being done.

00:35:26.000 Instead, it's chaos and disarray.

00:35:28.000 See, I think it's, I think it's like what we saw when, uh, you know, Trump started talking about the deep state and first it was, uh, no, there's no such thing as the deep state, but it very quickly became, yeah, there is a deep state and thank God there is because the deep state is the one that's saving us from Trump. 1.00

00:35:42.000 I think it's a similar tactic there where it's like, Oh, don't worry about Biden being a bumbling idiot. 0.99

00:35:46.000 The deep state will take care of you. 1.00

00:35:47.000 The deep state has things under control.

00:35:49.000 Trust the anonymous, you know, unelected spy apparatus to take care of you because you can't trust your elected officials.

00:35:58.000 I don't know, man.

00:35:59.000 I think Trump should win, because he's our best bet.

00:36:03.000 But I don't know what happens if Trump doesn't get the job done.

00:36:06.000 And I'm not confident that we have a strong guarantee he does.

00:36:09.000 It's just this is the best thing we should do right now. 0.99

00:36:10.000 A lot of people are saying a lot of crazy shit. 0.99

00:36:12.000 I'm just saying, bro, all I gotta do is vote for Trump right now. 0.99

00:36:14.000 And that might actually be a good path forward.

00:36:16.000 I think it is a greater than probability chance than a greater than chance probability that Donald Trump does enough to turn things around.

00:36:25.000 So people should not be acting all crazy like.

00:36:27.000 But, uh, anyway, good sir.

00:36:30.000 Thank you for calling in.

00:36:32.000 Thank you.

00:36:32.000 Have a going, buddy.

00:36:33.000 And we will jump to our next caller.

00:36:36.000 Future Mars citizen.

00:36:39.000 Ah, in the future, you will be a citizen of Mars.

00:36:40.000 Are you applying for SpaceX's thing?

00:36:45.000 Uh, you know, I actually would be on board with that.

00:36:47.000 I know there was, what, a while back, they were gonna take a hundred volunteers or something?

00:36:51.000 They're saying they're gonna be married couples, though, I think.

00:36:56.000 Hey, I'll marry.

00:36:57.000 I'll go to Mars.

00:36:58.000 Let's do this.

00:37:02.000 Harrison, my morning cup of coffee is not the same without you, sir.

00:37:07.000 I'm sorry.

00:37:10.000 Don't be sorry, just make sure you're always there at 9 a.m.

00:37:14.000 Eastern.

00:37:16.000 Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, thank you.

00:37:17.000 Yeah, thanks for, uh, thank you for that.

00:37:21.000 Thanks for watching.

00:37:22.000 So, yeah, I have a question for you.

00:37:26.000 Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe it's all the fault of the Jesuits and the Freemasons?

00:37:32.000 That has never once crossed my mind.

00:37:34.000 Now that you mention it, this is a novel idea I haven't heard before.

00:37:38.000 Yeah, yeah, so you are a listener.

00:37:40.000 Yeah, we get that almost every day.

00:37:42.000 I'm told it's the Jesuits.

00:37:44.000 I'm also told I'm a Jesuit, which is news to me.

00:37:47.000 So, yeah, apparently the Archbishop of, what was it, New York controls everything.

00:37:52.000 So, you know, there we go.

00:37:55.000 Top of the pyramid.

00:37:55.000 Sorry.

00:37:57.000 I had to.

00:37:59.000 Yeah, that's funny.

00:38:00.000 If people listen, they get that.

00:38:03.000 So, my serious question is that AJ's been kind of like escalating the discussion around running out of funds.

00:38:11.000 So are we going to have InfoWars for at least a few more years, get us through 2024 election and all that?

00:38:17.000 And I mean, what is your concern level with with all of that?

00:38:21.000 Hmm.

00:38:22.000 That's a good question.

00:38:24.000 You know, it sort of depends.

00:38:27.000 I think we'll I think we'll know more in the next couple of months, because I think the as far as I understand it, the bankruptcy proceedings are sort of winding down.

00:38:36.000 I mean, there are ways to get around any of this. I don't want to talk too much about

00:38:41.000 it, but I don't believe Infowars is going anywhere anytime soon. Because Alex set up such a

00:38:48.000 brilliant system by having the Infowars store and selling supplements, he's really playing on the

00:38:55.000 fact that as fallen and dejected as America has become, we still have this capitalist core,

00:39:00.000 which means that if you want to sell something and someone wants to buy that something, you can

00:39:04.000 sell that person that thing. So, because we don't

00:39:08.000 Because that's the way that we operate and we don't rely on advertisers, as long as the InfoWars store can still exist, then we can still exist because we can still sell products to our listeners.

00:39:20.000 The only reason we've lasted this long is because of the way Alex set it up and that he saw this coming, and I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon.

00:39:29.000 I don't have an escape hatch planned yet, so that would be a bummer for me to see that go away.

00:39:38.000 So far, we haven't laid off anybody.

00:39:40.000 We've actually hired some new people.

00:39:42.000 We're still building out.

00:39:43.000 We're still growing and expanding.

00:39:44.000 So we've just been sort of hampered and hobbled because of the bankruptcy.

00:39:49.000 But as far as I know, we're not going anywhere anytime soon.

00:39:54.000 And I think we'll find out the real trajectory within a couple months once the bankruptcy proceedings come to a close.

00:40:01.000 Right on.

00:40:03.000 That's awesome to hear.

00:40:06.000 There's a thing the communities want to know, if there's time for a little short add on.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, hit it bro.

00:40:11.000 Try and go quick though, but you got it.

00:40:13.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:40:15.000 Based on AJ and Owen's recent persecution, have you ever received threats from the federal government, and is that a concern for you personally?

00:40:25.000 Uh, you know it is now just because of the way things are going and this was sort of the this with the newest things happening with January 6 where you've got the Proud Boys being convicted of an unspoken conspiracy it's that's sort of terrifying because my position has always been like I don't call for violence.

00:40:42.000 I don't do any of the things that would put me outside of the restrictions of the First Amendment.

00:40:46.000 So I always am within the First Amendment.

00:40:48.000 So it's always like, you know, no matter what they do, they can't prosecute me for my speech.

00:40:52.000 I don't know if that's true anymore.

00:40:54.000 So I've never been questioned by the, I don't know.

00:40:57.000 As far as I know, the answer is no, I've not been targeted for anything, but the way things are going, you know, it is scary that like, because essentially what they've set up with Owen's Thing in particular, like his persecution in particular, is that essentially by saying, it's like this, people did violence, people rioted because they believed the election was false.

00:41:19.000 Therefore, if you spread the idea that the election was false, you are therefore responsible for the violence that was enacted on the basis of that idea.

00:41:27.000 So that's sort of terrifying to me, and I think that that's the way things are going.

00:41:32.000 But I think the worst thing to do in that situation is to give in and to stop asking questions and to stop speaking out.

00:41:40.000 I mean, I think that would make it easy for them.

00:41:42.000 So if they're going to destroy the First Amendment, they've got to actually destroy the First Amendment before we stop utilizing it.

00:41:48.000 So no, I've never been targeted as far as I know.

00:41:50.000 I've never been in legal trouble as far as I, you know, or anything like that as far as I know.

00:41:55.000 So I'm just going to keep doing what I do, which is just say what I believe without really thinking about it too much.

00:42:03.000 Right on, man.

00:42:04.000 Thanks for calling in, buddy.

00:42:05.000 That was good.

00:42:07.000 Yes, thank you, sir.

00:42:08.000 I hope everyone in this room gets to keep on doing what they're doing.

00:42:12.000 Love you guys.

00:42:12.000 Thank you.

00:42:13.000 As long as we can.

00:42:14.000 Thanks for calling in, man.

00:42:15.000 Let's jump to the next caller here.

00:42:17.000 We got Jeff Sickles.

00:42:20.000 Is that what it is?

00:42:22.000 Jeff Sickles?

00:42:23.000 Jeff Sickles.

00:42:23.000 Right, like icicles.

00:42:25.000 Ah, Jeff Sickles.

00:42:25.000 What up?

00:42:27.000 Hey, guys.

00:42:28.000 Thanks for taking my call.

00:42:28.000 Big fan, Sam.

00:42:29.000 Absolutely, man.

00:42:30.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:42:33.000 Yeah, okay, so I wanted to run an idea by you guys, see what you think, because you ran a bit earlier about that super cringy commercial about abortion that the guys are running.

00:42:42.000 Did you guys see that one?

00:42:43.000 That was bad. 1.00

00:42:44.000 My daughter's been raped! 1.00

00:42:45.000 I'm your Republican congressman, and I'm gonna watch her! 0.99

00:42:49.000 Jesus.

00:42:50.000 MAGA is watching you.

00:42:53.000 Creepy.

00:42:57.000 I kind of wish Seamus was here because he's like the abortion expert.

00:43:00.000 Yeah.

00:43:00.000 But if we can make it so that there's an addendum or an extra punishment that gets tacked on if you rape someone resulting in an abortion, that way there's still a legal recognition that a life was lost.

00:43:13.000 Agreed.

00:43:13.000 But nobody's forced to raise a rape baby.

00:43:16.000 I've never seen anybody put that idea out.

00:43:18.000 I love it.

00:43:20.000 I love it. 0.96

00:43:21.000 If a rapist rapes a woman, and she becomes pregnant, and then gets an abortion, he gets charged with murder. 0.99

00:43:28.000 Oh, man. 0.98

00:43:30.000 Totally, totally think so.

00:43:31.000 That's brilliant.

00:43:32.000 I hadn't heard that before.

00:43:33.000 Yeah.

00:43:34.000 I also, I mean... Rape and murder now.

00:43:36.000 Yeah, the number of abortions that result from rape or incest, like it's such a very small number.

00:43:42.000 In Ohio, I think the number that I came up with doing the general math and all the stats is six in a year.

00:43:46.000 Total?

00:43:46.000 Out of all the rapes, so 5% of rapes result in pregnancy.

00:43:53.000 And Ohio... Oh no, I'm sorry, it was six underage.

00:43:57.000 It's actually a couple hundred per year.

00:44:00.000 Several hundred.

00:44:00.000 Maybe like 200 is a fair assessment for just Ohio.

00:44:04.000 But we're talking about 30,000 rapes in total.

00:44:07.000 Right.

00:44:08.000 And then... Yeah, I think... I forgot how it broke down.

00:44:13.000 I did the math on my channel earlier.

00:44:16.000 It's statistically a decent amount nationwide.

00:44:20.000 But I just think that's the solution right there.

00:44:23.000 It's like, okay, how about this?

00:44:23.000 You're like...

00:44:24.000 They're right saying don't blame the innocent child.

00:44:27.000 You've got a problem of the rights of the woman who did not consent to take on a child. 1.00

00:44:31.000 And people are like, yeah, but you can't kill the baby.

00:44:33.000 And I'm like, I get it, man.

00:44:36.000 The argument from pro-lifers, it makes sense, but it conflicts with individual liberties and rights in a way that I don't know how to rectify.

00:44:42.000 The argument is, The rights of the woman are superseded by the life of the baby. 0.98

00:44:47.000 The discomfort and health risks are not death, therefore, but that's a utilitarian approach.

00:44:54.000 It's tough.

00:44:55.000 I still have a more deontological, you can't make an immoral action against an individual, but the problem becomes a baby and the mom, an immoral action has to be taken.

00:45:04.000 Yeah, I don't think that's it.

00:45:04.000 about an abortion no matter what.

00:45:06.000 Either the rape victim is forced to carry the baby immoral or the baby gets terminated immoral. 0.88

00:45:10.000 There's no, there is no easy answer.

00:45:12.000 So charge the rapist with murder.

00:45:15.000 I dig it.

00:45:16.000 Yeah, I don't think that's it.

00:45:18.000 Well, you guys liked the idea.

00:45:20.000 That's awesome.

00:45:21.000 I think it's a great idea.

00:45:21.000 I've never seen anybody else push it before.

00:45:23.000 I know, I never heard that.

00:45:24.000 That's a really good idea, though.

00:45:25.000 Then you go to the women, you're gonna be like, well, we don't want you to get an abortion, but my view is, if a woman does not consent to carry a baby, then the government cannot force her to carry the baby. 0.90

00:45:37.000 The baby shouldn't have to die, but I just don't see how, like, you rectify these situations.

00:45:42.000 Maybe with these bio bags and artificial wombs, you can save babies in the circumstance, but in the event the woman chooses to abort because she didn't consent, Rape is murder. 1.00

00:45:50.000 And that, to be said, to add to that, I actually don't agree with any, like, I am libertarianally pro-choice.

00:46:00.000 Maybe, like, there's a certain time frame within a few weeks where it's, like, the discretion of the mother, only for liberty-minded reasons.

00:46:07.000 Understanding that there are bad people who exploit this, but morally, I don't see why elective abortion is legal at all.

00:46:16.000 There's no argument for it.

00:46:17.000 A woman chooses to have sex with a man. 1.00

00:46:20.000 She invites a baby into her womb, and then later says not kill it. 0.99

00:46:24.000 No, you can't do that.

00:46:26.000 It's nine months.

00:46:28.000 That's all you're obligated to.

00:46:30.000 If you say yes to letting a baby into your body, then you have a nine month guarantee.

00:46:37.000 And I know it's tough because men don't face the same restrictions, but I don't see the moral argument for why a woman can choose to get pregnant and then kill the baby. 0.95

00:46:44.000 You're almost making a squatter's rights argument based on that. 0.85

00:46:47.000 Right.

00:46:48.000 You invite someone into your house, they get tenant rights.

00:46:51.000 And so, that's what it is.

00:46:54.000 However, there's a lot of moral and legal questions which result in me being like, I'm kind of with Trump on this one.

00:47:01.000 There's a compromise to be had where it's like, we minimize to the best of our ability, but we realize like, we cannot win a moral absolutist position or something.

00:47:10.000 Yeah, and there's a difference between the moral beliefs and then what can be achieved politically. 0.91

00:47:18.000 For me, I do think that life is a life, and just ask somebody who was conceived via rape if they would rather be dead.

00:47:28.000 If it was up to the baby, they'd probably choose to be alive no matter how they were conceived.

00:47:31.000 So morally, that's my stance.

00:47:34.000 But if you say to me, hey, if we can get rid of all abortions except for the pregnancies that are a consequence of rape, I'm going to make that deal because that means you're eliminating 99% of abortions even if I have to morally concede that The the the rape babies that's like I'd rather get rid of 99 than just keep doing what we're doing now but the reason that that commercial is actually so effective and successful it's it's cringy to us but abortion is is one of the very rare instances where the government.

00:48:06.000 Policy has tangible immediate effects on the citizen like even things like crime and immigration when they affect you they do so with a couple degrees of separation from the actual policy, but when you are deciding on abortion that has a direct effect on a woman's life and and the Path it takes or the choices that she makes so I understand Where Trump is coming from where it's like this is not you can't just ignore that fact you can't just you know Impose your morality on everybody else because there's women out there that feel like they're they have a right they have a right right now That is being taken away from them.

00:48:42.000 And so there's a lot like probably the number one single issue of single issue voters is abortion and there's millions and millions of women who feel like their rights are being taken away if abortion is taken away from is no longer legal.

00:48:57.000 So it's in the political sphere.

00:48:59.000 You have to separate it from your moral convictions if you actually want to lower the overall number of abortions like I do.

00:49:07.000 Right on.

00:49:07.000 Was that good?

00:49:09.000 Was that a good response, sir?

00:49:10.000 We have.

00:49:11.000 Yeah.

00:49:12.000 Really good.

00:49:13.000 Thank you.

00:49:13.000 Can I shut out my friend's podcast real quick?

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00:49:28.000 Thanks for calling in, buddy.

00:49:30.000 Thank you, have a good night.

00:49:31.000 Have a good one.

00:49:31.000 Oh, sorry.

00:49:32.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:49:33.000 And last but not least, we have the Kilted Carnivore.

00:49:38.000 Whoa.

00:49:38.000 Kilted Carnivore, what up?

00:49:40.000 Hey, how's it going, guys?

00:49:41.000 Big fan.

00:49:43.000 Chef, reverse sear, life changer.

00:49:46.000 So thanks for that.

00:49:47.000 Nice, thank you.

00:49:48.000 So my question, it's kind of a two-parter.

00:49:52.000 How long until we see armed citizens voluntarily patrolling and protecting the border?

00:49:57.000 And at what point does the responsibility fall upon the people to fix the problem that our government...

00:50:03.000 We've already seen them. The Minutemen, I think they were called.

00:50:05.000 They've been around for a long time.

00:50:07.000 And my concern is what we're seeing now over these past few years,

00:50:10.000 I'm actually surprised it hasn't gotten really, really bad already.

00:50:12.000 Yeah.

00:50:13.000 But maybe that's it. I mean, I don't know.

00:50:16.000 Maybe people are trying to do this the right way.

00:50:18.000 The Founding Fathers avoided war.

00:50:20.000 They, to the best of their abilities, petition, petition, petition.

00:50:24.000 And it was only when the Redcoats came to Lexington and Concord to seize their weapons that fighting broke out among farmers, which resulted in the start of the war. 0.99

00:50:31.000 So, fuck, man, I don't know. 0.98

00:50:34.000 See, that's the issue, is that if people actually did that, the American government would go to war with its own citizens to stop them, I think. 1.00

00:50:41.000 If, yes, if, if, if, let's say a hundred guys got together and went down to the southern border and just said, no, you're not coming in and turned them back, the US government would kill those Americans and help the illegal immigrants. 0.93

00:50:55.000 No question. 100%. 0.99

00:50:57.000 CBP is down there opening the gates and letting them come in.

00:51:00.000 They're actually cutting the razor wire that's already there.

00:51:03.000 Yep, and so if U.S.

00:51:04.000 citizens went down there, they would have to confront federal law enforcement.

00:51:08.000 Federal law enforcement, without question, would open fire on these men and their children if their children were with them.

00:51:14.000 People think it's not true, and then you see what happens with the lockdowns, and you see what happens with these schools.

00:51:21.000 Uvalde?

00:51:22.000 Spare me, dude.

00:51:23.000 Michael Maus is right.

00:51:24.000 If these Border Patrol guys are on the border, letting these people in as their orders, and some dude shows up with his 14-year-old son, they will shoot that 14-year-old kid in the forehead if they think that there's a threat to their operation.

00:51:38.000 Yeah, and again, it's one of the, you know, if you boil down what the purpose of government is to its most basic thing, it's to defend the border.

00:51:45.000 So, you know, it's really not something that us citizens can do on our own.

00:51:50.000 I mean, it's even the guy that shot illegal immigrants on his own land.

00:51:55.000 He was protecting his own house and he got arrested and is facing murder charges.

00:52:01.000 And so it's not a feasible path.

00:52:05.000 Yeah, man, I'm worried about that because The border stuff, it's not even about the U.S.

00:52:10.000 borders.

00:52:11.000 It's about an old man who had his own plot of land, and a trespasser came.

00:52:16.000 That's it.

00:52:17.000 If someone trespasses on your property and presents a threat to you in West Virginia, you can defend yourself with force.

00:52:21.000 In Texas, you can defend property, like if someone's trying to steal from you.

00:52:24.000 Especially if it's at night.

00:52:25.000 Yeah.

00:52:26.000 And so what if you're on the southern border of Texas, Eagle Pass?

00:52:29.000 Let's say not Eagle Pass.

00:52:30.000 Let's say, you know, a little bit down the road.

00:52:33.000 You got a house with property near the border and a bunch of illegal immigrants are coming onto your property. 1.00

00:52:38.000 They're not going to be sitting there being like, oh this dang federal government is letting our country go to shit. 1.00

00:52:42.000 They're going to be like, oh fuck, these guys are my property. 1.00

00:52:45.000 Boys, come on over, I need help. 1.00

00:52:47.000 And then it's going to be a shootout between these guys and migrants because the migrants are going to be on their property doing who knows what, let's say it's cartel bullshit. 0.98

00:52:54.000 And then Border Patrol's gonna come and they will defend the illegal immigrants. 0.96

00:52:59.000 The cartels thing is the real problem for people that want to defend their property or whatever.

00:53:05.000 Because if you, you could very easily end up, you know, you run out there with your rifle or you and your buddies run out there with a couple rifles.

00:53:12.000 Next thing you know, you're facing down, you know, 15 dudes with fully automatic belt-fed machine guns.

00:53:18.000 We have to assume that it's the cartel if it's, I mean, because it most likely could be.

00:53:23.000 Yep.

00:53:24.000 But it's not just that, it's this, the reality right now is the videos show CBP opening the gates and saying, come on in, and counting, 1, 2, 3, okay, this is a good number.

00:53:33.000 And these are African migrants. 0.52

00:53:35.000 These are not South American, these are not Central American, they're not refugees.

00:53:39.000 They're not families, they're not kids, women, children, these are young men.

00:53:45.000 With UN credit cards, by the way.

00:53:49.000 But anyway, man, I don't know if you want to elaborate a little bit.

00:53:53.000 It's getting a little bit late, but I don't want to catch up too soon if you wanted to ask any more or elaborate on that.

00:54:01.000 Yeah, the whole situation is just really brutal, and I don't know how we put a sudden stop to the whole thing without it escalating to violence.

00:54:11.000 But as you were saying, I don't really think there's even Going that way, it's obviously not the right thing to do, and there's still not a clear-cut answer on which direction to go.

00:54:23.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:54:23.000 Just sucks. 0.98

00:54:25.000 It's getting crazy out there, man. 0.99

00:54:26.000 Right on, dude.

00:54:27.000 Well, thanks for calling in, buddy!

00:54:30.000 Well, Brom, have a good night, guys.

00:54:31.000 Have a good one, man.

00:54:32.000 You too.

00:54:33.000 And, uh, Harrison, it's been a blast.

00:54:35.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:54:36.000 Thanks for having me on, man.

00:54:36.000 This has been great.

00:54:37.000 Absolutely.

00:54:38.000 And Chef Gruel, great to see you.

00:54:40.000 Glad to have you here.

00:54:40.000 And just a real quick elevator pitch for everybody.

00:54:44.000 Uh, our plan for the most part, uh, Chef Gruel's gonna help us franchise in Castbrew.

00:54:48.000 When we get to that point, we're not there yet.

00:54:50.000 I don't know what I'm supposed to say or not.

00:54:51.000 I don't know.

00:54:52.000 But we're hopefully opening soon, and we enlist the help of the experts to help make that happen.

00:54:59.000 And then we're gonna have a bunch of big plans for our anti-Times Square up in Martinsburg, West Virginia.

00:55:04.000 And it's all possible thanks to every one of you as members.

00:55:07.000 So just know that that is what your membership is.

00:55:11.000 You hang out in the Discord, you watch the After Show, you meet like-minded people.

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00:55:17.000 The first is that we use it... Let me be very clear.

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00:55:27.000 The second thing is, we invest it in a bunch of crazy-ass shit, and this is what we're trying to do. 0.97

00:55:32.000 From music and cultural endeavors, but we want to build this anti-Times Square. 0.98

00:55:36.000 And I will be as very transparent to you guys as possible.

00:55:39.000 In terms of what I get paid, my salary comes only from TimCast News.

00:55:46.000 That one channel.

00:55:47.000 TimCast IRL does not put extra money in my pocket.

00:55:51.000 Wanna make sure that's clear.

00:55:53.000 All of the ad revenue generated from TimCast IRL, all of the memberships, does not go to my salary.

00:55:59.000 If I were to get rid of everything and just do the Tim Pool Daily Show, that's my salary.

00:56:04.000 The stuff that I'm doing by myself.

00:56:06.000 So, the goal really is, with all of you becoming members, Build the anti-Times Square, put on events, start companies, challenge the machine to the best of our abilities.

00:56:17.000 Let's be completely real here.

00:56:18.000 I'm not saying I'm not benefiting from it.

00:56:20.000 I own all the assets.

00:56:21.000 There is a benefit there, but it's not direct salary cash that I use to, like, buy cars.

00:56:25.000 The stuff that I have for myself is from The Morning Show. 0.98

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