Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - BOYCOTT After Ad Firms DROP RUMBLE For Defending Russell Brandw-Andy Ngo & Patriot J

00:00:00.000 Peace.

00:00:14.000 The beginning is that advertisers are pulling off of Rumble because Rumble refuses to shut down Russell Brand.

00:00:21.000 Now, most of you are aware, if you tracked the show over the past week, UK Parliament actually sent letters to various social media networks and television networks Effectively demanding that Russell Brand's deals be yanked or his content get pulled.

00:00:38.000 Now we are seeing big brands like Burger King and HelloFresh pull their ads off of Rumble.

00:00:42.000 Sparking calls for another boycott.

00:00:45.000 And I gotta be honest, I've been boycotting Burger King for a long time. 0.99

00:00:48.000 And it's not political, it's just that their food is trash. 0.97

00:00:50.000 So, you know, there's that. 0.98

00:00:52.000 We got a bunch of other stories too.

00:00:53.000 I mean, the crazy news is that U.S.

00:00:55.000 Abrams tanks have arrived in Ukraine.

00:00:58.000 Oh boy.

00:00:59.000 And now a report from CBS News shows that the U.S.

00:01:02.000 taxpayer is footing the bill for Ukrainian small businesses.

00:01:06.000 We're not just funding the war, we're funding the lives of your everyday Ukrainian.

00:01:06.000 That's right.

00:01:10.000 Hey man, I like Ukrainian people, but I don't know why our tax dollars are going to paying for their businesses. 1.00

00:01:16.000 That makes no sense.

00:01:17.000 Well, this might make sense, I guess.

00:01:19.000 In that context, Canadian Parliament cheered and clapped.

00:01:23.000 For an actual Nazi! 0.68

00:01:25.000 Yeah, and now they're saying they're all embarrassed, but this is how depraved their cult, zealotry, and support of Ukraine has become, to the point where they will give a standing ovation to a Nazi because he's Ukrainian. 0.99

00:01:35.000 That's nuts.

00:01:36.000 We'll talk about that, plus, Washington Post is quite concerned their own poll shows Donald Trump beating Joe Biden by 10 points.

00:01:44.000 Oops.

00:01:45.000 They're saying, no, no, no, please, it's just an outlier, despite the fact that Trump is leading in aggregate across the board in all these different polls.

00:01:52.000 Yeah.

00:01:53.000 We'll get into all that.

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00:03:01.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more, we got Patriot J!

00:03:04.000 What up, man?

00:03:05.000 Thank you for having me.

00:03:07.000 Who are you?

00:03:07.000 Absolutely.

00:03:07.000 What do you do?

00:03:08.000 Man, I'm a part-time rap artist, criminal defense attorney in Los Angeles, political reporter for Breitbart.

00:03:14.000 I do a little bit of everything here and there.

00:03:16.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.

00:03:16.000 Right on.

00:03:17.000 It's gonna be fun.

00:03:18.000 We also got Andy Ngo.

00:03:18.000 He's in town.

00:03:19.000 Hi, Tim.

00:03:20.000 Thanks for having me back.

00:03:21.000 Absolutely.

00:03:22.000 Who are you?

00:03:22.000 What do you do?

00:03:23.000 I am a journalist, senior editor at the Post Millennial.

00:03:27.000 I'm probably most well known for my reporting on Antifa.

00:03:32.000 Right on, and recently there was something happened, we'll talk about this too, a member of the Democratic Party sent a terroristic threat to shut down one of your events or something like that?

00:03:42.000 Yeah, so I'm in the U.S.

00:03:44.000 on this trip because on Friday, September 22nd, I was invited to speak by the Common Sense Society in Richmond, Virginia, an event put on by the Virginia Council.

00:03:57.000 And it took the third venue for me to actually speak.

00:04:01.000 The first one was the Commonwealth Club, which is a gentleman's club, and they gave in to a cancel campaign by the extremists far left.

00:04:10.000 A gentleman's club?

00:04:11.000 Yes, that's right.

00:04:12.000 Like a strip club?

00:04:13.000 No.

00:04:13.000 Like a social club, right?

00:04:15.000 Sorry, I forgot.

00:04:16.000 That's the American colloquialism.

00:04:19.000 Social club for men.

00:04:21.000 So they cancelled.

00:04:24.000 Shame on them.

00:04:25.000 And then the second was the Marriott Hotel in In Richmond, and on the day of, they cancelled.

00:04:33.000 And all it took for them in the cave was just for these agitators to call in.

00:04:39.000 They put out this script with all these lies, saying that I was a neo-Nazi, this was a neo-Nazi event, and armed Nazis was coming, and Marriott Corporate cancelled.

00:04:49.000 And fortunately, we were able to speak at a community center in the end, and there were about 200 people who came.

00:04:57.000 There were a lot of attempts to shut it down and there was a person who's a leader in the official Democrat Party group in Richmond, Jimmy Lee Jarvis, who posted a picture on social media saying that he was going to the Andy Ngo event and the picture was of an individual holding up a box of dynamite.

00:05:18.000 Well, we'll talk about that and a whole lot more.

00:05:18.000 Wow.

00:05:20.000 So thanks for hanging out, man.

00:05:21.000 Glad to see that you're okay and the event went off somehow.

00:05:23.000 But we got Hannah-Claire hanging out as well. 0.98

00:05:25.000 Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:05:26.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:05:27.000 I'm so excited to be here with this West Coast contingent.

00:05:31.000 Search is here too, finally.

00:05:33.000 Yes, I am back.

00:05:35.000 Thanks Carter and thanks Kellen for taking care of this while I was out.

00:05:38.000 I'm excited to meet you guys both.

00:05:40.000 Let's get started, Tim.

00:05:41.000 Alright, here's the first story from the New York Post.

00:05:44.000 Burger King faces boycott after yanking ads from Rumble over Russell Brand accusations.

00:05:49.000 There's so much crammed into this headline.

00:05:51.000 Russell Brand accusations, Rumble defends it, Burger King boycotts.

00:05:56.000 Man, that's like, each of those things are big stories just piled on top of each other.

00:06:00.000 They say that Burger King hasn't publicly stated why it recently removed its adverts on the popular site.

00:06:04.000 Just as other brands like ASOS and HelloFresh recently did, social media users have questioned the timing of the move, which came just one week after Brand came under fire.

00:06:13.000 The Whopper House has since been bashed for pulling its ads from the self-proclaimed free speech platform before Brand has actually been convicted.

00:06:21.000 Burger King has pulled its head from Rumble because the free speech platform refuses to pledge judge, jury, and executioner of Russell Brand after the UK governor demanded the platform demonetize him.

00:06:31.000 UK governor?

00:06:32.000 Who's that?

00:06:32.000 Is that a reference to somebody?

00:06:33.000 I'm not familiar with that position in the UK.

00:06:35.000 I know it was a UK parliament, uh, member of parliament, right?

00:06:38.000 Yeah, I think that's probably a typo.

00:06:39.000 It was a member of parliament.

00:06:41.000 Yeah, member of parliament sent a letter out to all these different networks.

00:06:44.000 Reminder, Brand has not been convicted of a single crime.

00:06:47.000 Boycott Burger King they hate free speech and due process and their food is poison anyways stop eating it I just want to pause and say if you've been eating Burger King for any reason Please don't.

00:07:00.000 I think Burger King is just awful.

00:07:02.000 But that's just my opinion.

00:07:03.000 I mean, I'm not gonna besmirch the good name of Burger King, I guess.

00:07:06.000 Is this Charlie Kirk saying it's poison?

00:07:08.000 I wonder what the legalities on that, calling it poison, are.

00:07:12.000 I think that's like... I don't know if you can say that.

00:07:15.000 But I guess it's an opinion statement.

00:07:16.000 I think Burger King is unhealthy.

00:07:19.000 And I think it would be very funny if Burger King started suing people for claiming their food is bad for you.

00:07:25.000 Because it is bad for you.

00:07:26.000 You know, their onion rings?

00:07:28.000 I don't even know what their onion rings are.

00:07:29.000 I gotta be honest.

00:07:30.000 I think their onion rings are potatoes.

00:07:32.000 Have you ever had Burger King onion rings?

00:07:32.000 No, for real.

00:07:34.000 Like, years ago?

00:07:36.000 I'm pretty sure it's... Well, in my opinion, it does not taste... It's not an onion.

00:07:40.000 Like, it's some kind of mashed something or other they cut into a ring.

00:07:43.000 Yeah, just not good.

00:07:44.000 Anyway, yeah.

00:07:46.000 Here we go.

00:07:47.000 This is the next story we have from The Guardian.

00:07:49.000 Firms pull ads from Rumble platform over Russell brand videos.

00:07:52.000 So it's Burger King, Asos, and HelloFresh have removed these ads.

00:07:55.000 And now we're getting people calling for a boycott of these companies.

00:07:59.000 And this is in a public statement posted on Next.

00:08:00.000 Rumble called the letter disturbing because the government came out.

00:08:04.000 So basically this is where we're at.

00:08:05.000 I think what we're seeing here is actually a move to begin to remove Rumble.

00:08:11.000 In this story from The Sun, they say, I'm an online expert.

00:08:14.000 Russell Brand's refuge platform, Rumble, may be forced offline under new internet safety laws.

00:08:20.000 Rumble may go the parlor route.

00:08:22.000 What do you guys think?

00:08:25.000 I mean, I think Russell Brand is obviously being treated completely unfairly.

00:08:31.000 You know, he doesn't even have a way to defend himself from these allegations because nothing has been filed in a court of law.

00:08:38.000 So other than Rumble support, Rumble saying, basically, you don't need to leave our platform.

00:08:44.000 He doesn't have a lot of recourse here.

00:08:46.000 And that's a bizarre position to put in.

00:08:49.000 I mean, what is he going to do?

00:08:50.000 Well, the question is, well, are they targeting Rumble?

00:08:53.000 Are they going to go after Rumble and try to get Rumble taken down?

00:08:56.000 Advertisers pulling off the entirety of the platform because Russell Brand is on it?

00:08:59.000 How does that make sense?

00:09:01.000 I think we need to figure out some sort of way for people to just fund these websites.

00:09:06.000 I'm sure they're... I'm not familiar with Rumble, but I'm sure that they have subscriptions or things like that, but we really need to get back to, like, users funding this because the advertisers have so much power.

00:09:17.000 True, but the advertisers on platforms like YouTube gave birth to the influencer ecosphere.

00:09:22.000 It's a whole generation of media that's really disruptive.

00:09:25.000 I mean, as much as, you know, podcasts and alternative news, really it's the influencer web that drives these things, which for the most part is predominantly funded by advertisers.

00:09:34.000 It seems unfair that, you know, people looking to have an alternative to YouTube would not be able to participate in Standard retail advertising dollars.

00:09:43.000 I mean, not that you should buy everything an influencer sells.

00:09:45.000 On the other hand, in addition to unpersoning Russell Brand, there's an attempt to unplatform Rumble itself.

00:09:51.000 I buy a lot of stuff off Instagram.

00:09:53.000 Basically, if Instagram shows it to me, I'm buying it.

00:09:56.000 Because, you know, they're ripping through my private data and the algorithms know you better than you know yourself.

00:10:02.000 And so then you get this ad for like, I don't know, this UFO thing.

00:10:02.000 Right.

00:10:05.000 I got an ad on Instagram for it and I was like, I must buy this.

00:10:08.000 And so I did.

00:10:08.000 And then they added that shot feature to make it easier.

00:10:11.000 Creepy.

00:10:12.000 We really need to commend Rumble for not giving in to the pressure campaigns that they're probably feeling from every direction right now.

00:10:22.000 YouTube should be condemned, I think, in the strongest terms for demonetizing Russell Brand based on accusations in the media where he has really no recourse or ability to respond other than through the media space.

00:10:37.000 And the BBC has been pressured into removing old content that features Brand, so he's losing royalties from there.

00:10:45.000 With that said, I do want to caveat that I think for all the people that came out, have come out immediately in defense of Mr. Brand, I'm just concerned that the backlash against Believe All Women is is becoming now the flip side of believe no women.

00:11:03.000 And I actually think that the Sunday Times investigation was very thorough.

00:11:08.000 And I think the allegations are credible.

00:11:10.000 With that said, though, they are anonymous, and they're placed entirely in the space of a media PR battle, not through a civil lawsuit, and no charges have been filed in the criminal space.

00:11:22.000 So For a man now, who's having his entire career unravel in a matter of hours, it's a deep injustice, and it feels... Yeah, I don't find them credible.

00:11:34.000 You don't?

00:11:35.000 No, I mean, first, I'll defer to you, I mean, I've only read the articles about them, right?

00:11:42.000 But my issue is, if Russell Brand has a relationship with someone, no, not even Russell Brand, if a man and a woman have a relationship, and they argue with each other, and they fight, You can say that, you know, 20 years later, oh look, here's text messages showing them fighting, him saying, well you apologize, I know I acted poorly last night, and the assumptions you can make based off of a 20 year old story.

00:12:10.000 So there's a text message between Russell and this woman.

00:12:13.000 The reason why I view this stuff as... I don't know.

00:12:18.000 Not worthy of news, in my opinion, is for one, the media absolutely loved everything he was doing all that time ago.

00:12:25.000 People change, whatever.

00:12:26.000 If the argument is he shouldn't do this, well, he's not doing it now, okay?

00:12:29.000 So it's been 20 years.

00:12:31.000 The issue I have is let's say you, Andy, got into a fight with someone and you texted them saying, it was really inappropriate what you did last night.

00:12:37.000 I demand an apology.

00:12:38.000 I can't believe you would do that to me.

00:12:39.000 And what happened?

00:12:40.000 He stiffed you on a bill at a bar.

00:12:42.000 And then it says like, look, when I tell you this is how it's going down, you can't, you can't do this to me.

00:12:47.000 I am furious.

00:12:48.000 And I'm so sorry.

00:12:48.000 I'm so sorry.

00:12:49.000 And then later 20 years, you're like, oh, that text, uh, that was rape.

00:12:52.000 And it's like, no, no, no, no, wait, hold on.

00:12:53.000 That text was about something totally different.

00:12:55.000 It's 20 years later.

00:12:56.000 What do you do?

00:12:56.000 The problem I have with these accusations 20 years on is that You can take a legitimate relationship and then just say 20 years later, oh, that was not consensual.

00:13:05.000 What, how do you even prove that?

00:13:07.000 I'm not saying, like, there are challenges in the law, but the weirdest thing about how the law is handled today is that when it comes to murder, there are cold cases where there's a person who's been suspected of the murder and we're like, what do we do?

00:13:18.000 And then people are just like, I don't know, I think he might be the murderer, but we really don't know.

00:13:22.000 But then when it comes to issues like this, it's like, destroy his life entirely because of anonymous accusations There's the police are just now opening investigation so I suppose my point is it is almost impossible for accusations this this far this this old to be credible.

00:13:41.000 I don't know what you do to make them credible that being said.

00:13:46.000 There can be new evidence.

00:13:47.000 I'm sure things can emerge.

00:13:48.000 There's like a video Russell made of himself where he's like, I can't believe that I actually did that to those women last night.

00:13:52.000 And it's from 20 years ago.

00:13:52.000 It's true, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:53.000 And you're like, oh, wow, there's evidence.

00:13:54.000 Evidence exists.

00:13:55.000 For the time being, they've only just started an investigation.

00:13:59.000 So it's like, sure, man.

00:14:02.000 I wouldn't call it credible.

00:14:04.000 And actually, at this point, I agree with you when you say it shouldn't be believe no women. 0.99

00:14:10.000 It's true.

00:14:12.000 But we're talking about, Believe All Women is supposed to be, a woman goes to the police the next day, or maybe within a week, and you know, she's traumatized, she doesn't know what to do, and then she makes an accusation, we say, okay, we will believe, we will operate under the assumption the accusation is true and correct, and investigate.

00:14:27.000 It's not supposed to be that 20 years later, someone comes out to the news and the press, and says, oh, that famous celebrity, yeah, he did a bad thing to me, and then advertisers pull ads off a platform because he's on that platform.

00:14:40.000 None of this makes sense.

00:14:41.000 Why would the UK government try to get Russell Brand banned?

00:14:44.000 That makes no sense.

00:14:45.000 That makes the claims... It strikes at their credibility, outright.

00:14:50.000 Like, for sure, you can make the argument that the member of parliament was just exploiting a crisis situation for political gain, but it just... I just don't see it.

00:15:03.000 Um, well...

00:15:08.000 I think the actions of these third parties who are now politicians, activist groups, online activists, I think their actions shouldn't necessarily affect the credibility of those who have come forward.

00:15:23.000 These are third parties that have their own ulterior motives.

00:15:27.000 The MP will have her own reasons to try to elevate her name and profile in the press through these type of actions, as well as other individuals who have place pressure to try to destroy the career of Russell

00:15:43.000 Brand. It's just, I think, you know, I've been through, I've been the victim in, or I've,

00:15:54.000 I've been through a trial, a criminal trial where I was a witness who testified and

00:16:01.000 made allegations in a criminal matter before. And that process I think has...

00:16:07.000 It helped me understand potentially why some victims don't go forward.

00:16:14.000 The process of being cross-examined and gaslit and reliving over and over a really traumatic experience, it really destroys you.

00:16:25.000 And that then kind of opened my eyes to why I kind of understand why some women, for the first time, it made me understand perhaps why some people don't immediately go to law enforcement. 0.99

00:16:37.000 However, that doesn't mean that I support them that decades later, years later, then they go anonymously to the press.

00:16:44.000 Yeah, I got to be honest, I don't care.

00:16:46.000 I don't play to this emotional argument of, oh it's so hard and it's so emotional, you know.

00:16:52.000 It was very difficult for people to do this.

00:16:54.000 They say, oh, victims have a hard time. 0.99

00:16:55.000 That sucks. 0.94

00:16:56.000 Sorry. 0.96

00:16:56.000 Have a nice day. 0.96

00:16:57.000 The justice system is not supposed to be, your feelings are hurt, so we're going to destroy a man's life over it.

00:17:02.000 The justice system is, yes, we recognize there are hardships.

00:17:05.000 We want to seek the best outcomes for justice.

00:17:08.000 That means if there is a guy who is abusing women in large numbers, then definitely we're going to try and solve for that problem.

00:17:14.000 However, If you, as the victim, are unable to provide evidence and testimony in a meaningful manner in a time-appropriate manner, then that's it.

00:17:26.000 The legal system is not supposed to be bent because some people have hurt feelings.

00:17:31.000 I do not accept that.

00:17:32.000 I mean, that's the UK.

00:17:34.000 I can't speak for London.

00:17:35.000 I can say for the United States, I absolutely reject the idea that we would have to put someone's freedom and liberty at risk to protect the feelings of another person because, oh, they felt bad.

00:17:45.000 Sorry.

00:17:46.000 You need to have evidence.

00:17:47.000 It needs to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:17:49.000 And what we're seeing now is, in line with so many other BS moments throughout the past couple of decades, or a decade or so, where people have been falsely accused, and Julian Assange, a great example, the media lied about everything.

00:18:04.000 They use it to destroy his life.

00:18:05.000 They didn't just fire him.

00:18:07.000 They locked him up, and they have him locked up to this day, despite the fact we know the accusations that were made were completely untrue.

00:18:15.000 So when you get a Jeffrey Epstein who gets away with it and gets protection from the media and the press, and then later it's like, whoops, all of that was true, forgive me if I don't believe you when you go after a Julian Assange and you're ignoring the people on your side and you're targeting the people who are not on your side.

00:18:31.000 All I see right here is...

00:18:34.000 When multiple agencies pull off a rumble, Occam's Razor suggests a coordinated effort to do so.

00:18:42.000 When Alex Jones got banned, I think it was, was it 2018 or was it 2019?

00:18:45.000 2018.

00:18:46.000 All the networks did it at the same time.

00:18:50.000 There's an argument to be made that they were just waiting for, you know, one, you know, Twitter's like, as soon as any other company makes a move, we'll do it too, or You likely have a scenario where there was some political agenda.

00:19:03.000 In the instance of Alex Jones, we don't know definitively.

00:19:06.000 But in the instance of Russell Brand, we know for a fact the UK government solicited networks and platforms to remove Russell Brand.

00:19:15.000 So why are these ads now being pulled from Rumble?

00:19:18.000 Likely because the same people in the UK government are now targeting anybody who's sponsoring Rumble.

00:19:23.000 I don't think it's as simple as to say a couple activists called Burger King and said, oh, you know, you guys are running ads on Rumble.

00:19:30.000 No, it's more like a national security letter gets sent out saying you will do this now or else.

00:19:35.000 Or maybe they don't need it.

00:19:37.000 Maybe a member of parliament contacts your head of legal office with a shakedown letter and Burger King's like, listen, we do not Need rumble.

00:19:45.000 44 million users.

00:19:46.000 It's not worth a permitting headache with the UK government.

00:19:50.000 We're generating hundreds of millions of dollars out of the UK.

00:19:52.000 Let's just let it go.

00:19:53.000 I don't know.

00:19:54.000 Is Burt King in the UK?

00:19:55.000 They're in the UK, right?

00:19:56.000 I don't think they make that much money.

00:19:57.000 But that's my point.

00:19:59.000 If right now it's come to the point where you have four women who, for whatever reason, did not, you know, come out with these allegations, and it's now 20 plus years later, 10 or 20 years later, I'm just like, You know, prove it. 0.86

00:20:12.000 That's all that matters, right?

00:20:14.000 You need proof.

00:20:14.000 Do you have a take as a criminal defense attorney?

00:20:17.000 Yeah, I mean, Tim's right.

00:20:18.000 You need proof.

00:20:19.000 You have to meet a certain burden of proof.

00:20:21.000 It's really hard to believe women 20 years after the fact. 1.00

00:20:26.000 So these situations do occur.

00:20:28.000 I would encourage individuals who are victims to report it as soon as possible rather than waiting decades down the line.

00:20:36.000 And you notice it always happens when they're in the spotlight for something or when they're leaning on the right side because none of these allegations were ever brought when Russell Brand was like a darling of the corporate media.

00:20:47.000 He was totally fine.

00:20:48.000 Nobody said anything.

00:20:49.000 Now he's more independent.

00:20:50.000 Now you see them trying to come after him.

00:20:52.000 And it just seems very coordinated.

00:20:54.000 They didn't say anything when he married Katy Perry.

00:20:58.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:20:59.000 Why does the media care?

00:21:00.000 How come the media did not care about Epstein?

00:21:02.000 In fact, they covered up for him, but they care so much about Russell Brand.

00:21:06.000 I don't buy it.

00:21:07.000 Not for one second.

00:21:09.000 They all of a sudden care about Russell Brand.

00:21:11.000 They all of a sudden need to have the ads pulled.

00:21:13.000 They all of a sudden are realizing his shows have to get pulled off the BBC Channel 4 and YouTube or whatever.

00:21:19.000 What?

00:21:20.000 I don't buy it.

00:21:20.000 Sorry.

00:21:21.000 Have a nice day.

00:21:22.000 Epstein, they knew.

00:21:23.000 Epstein had been charged.

00:21:25.000 I think it was like in the 2000s.

00:21:26.000 They knew what he was doing.

00:21:28.000 He got a sweetheart deal and was let go.

00:21:32.000 So where was the media on this one?

00:21:34.000 Now, you can argue that Epstein was blackmailing powerful individuals.

00:21:36.000 Okay, where was the media?

00:21:38.000 Because this exposé on Russell Brand is the Sunday Times, it's Channel 4.

00:21:44.000 All of a sudden, one day, somebody at these networks, they're just like, you know, I'm really concerned about Russell Brand.

00:21:50.000 I'm gonna go dig around for 20-year-old accusations.

00:21:54.000 What?

00:21:55.000 Someone started, you don't understand this.

00:21:57.000 Someone started, some journalist decided to start soliciting No, I mean, for real, look, if he was doing these things, that's bad, for sure.

00:22:11.000 But it's a weird thing for the media to immediately want to pick up, especially when it's coming from corporate narrative establishment government media sources.

00:22:19.000 Quite literally.

00:22:20.000 So.

00:22:22.000 It seems weird, and he's in an impossible position because there's nothing going on in court, right?

00:22:26.000 So he could file, let's say, a defamation suit, maybe, against these anonymous people, but then he is adding to this narrative that he is the aggressor, right?

00:22:34.000 He's going after these theoretical victims who aren't even being named, and therefore he's trying to get lots of money out of them.

00:22:40.000 There's no good look for him in this scenario.

00:22:41.000 I get what you're saying.

00:22:42.000 I think I agree.

00:22:43.000 I think it is complicated for a lot of people to decide to go through the trial process.

00:22:47.000 I don't think cross-examination is easy.

00:22:49.000 But the fact that this was solicited from a reporter is so strange.

00:22:53.000 Yeah, I mean, what Me Too, I think, has done is it's in many ways actually discouraged victims to speak out when they want and to who they want, like the media, rather than To law enforcement.

00:23:14.000 I think law enforcement in reporting is so key for victims to get justice when you, I mean, you wait so many years and statutes of limitations pass, your memories is blurry, evidence is lost and destroyed.

00:23:29.000 It's just, yeah, the Me Too has been more about, I think, Giving space for people to tell these stories where they can actually never be falsifiable.

00:23:41.000 And that's, you know, there's... And in that case, you can never even wait for a due process to play out.

00:23:47.000 I see a lot of people responding, like, Centaur's response on social media, we should withdraw, withhold judgment and wait for just this process to play out.

00:23:56.000 But there is no process playing out.

00:23:58.000 So it's...

00:24:00.000 You know, so I have criticisms going in so many directions here.

00:24:05.000 I reject all of the accusations and allegations against Russell Brand.

00:24:08.000 I mean, it's a pattern.

00:24:11.000 But one of them went to a rape crisis center at the time.

00:24:14.000 Yeah, and considering the political state of this country, considering the actions being taken against them, considering the motivations of the press, Sure, but I won't give the benefit of the doubt.

00:24:26.000 Sorry, not happening.

00:24:28.000 It's just, there are so many bad people and criminals who are getting away with everything that what we end up seeing is law enforcement choose to go after certain people when it benefits them politically.

00:24:42.000 That's the nature of the West today.

00:24:45.000 So when I see 20-year-old accusations, it's Brett Kavanaugh all over again.

00:24:49.000 Sorry, don't care at all.

00:24:51.000 You want to investigate, you want to prove it, by all means, please do so.

00:24:53.000 You prove it in a court, fine, I get it.

00:24:55.000 But now, does anyone actually even believe these courts?

00:24:58.000 You got Donald Trump and that story of that woman in New York, that he went to that department store.

00:25:02.000 Carol E. Jean.

00:25:03.000 Yeah, what was the department store?

00:25:05.000 Bergdorf Goodman's, right?

00:25:06.000 Yeah, Bergdorf Goodman's.

00:25:07.000 And it's the busiest place with the most famous man, arguably, in the city.

00:25:11.000 He owns the hotel next door.

00:25:14.000 Nobody noticed, Donald Trump with no security, going to the second floor I think it was, and then a New York jury finds Donald Trump accountable, liable, for this assault or something?

00:25:28.000 Sexual assault. 0.89

00:25:29.000 That's insane! 0.74

00:25:30.000 That's insane.

00:25:31.000 So sure, fine.

00:25:33.000 Still don't care.

00:25:34.000 I don't care.

00:25:35.000 The weaponization of it is just so thick and so intense, I'm giving no one the benefit of the doubt.

00:25:40.000 I think the silver lining from the Russell Brand story is that people who care about free speech and due process are actually standing up and they're boycotting these companies who are pulling funds from rumble advertising.

00:25:51.000 I think it's really good to see the conservative boycotts that have been happening all year.

00:25:55.000 It finally feels like we're trying to make our voices heard.

00:25:58.000 Yeah.

00:25:59.000 See, the issue is every single time Something happens.

00:26:04.000 Or, I shouldn't say every single time, but typically, there have been major political moments over the past several years, and you get conservatives, libertarians, and post-liberals all trying to do the reasonable thing.

00:26:17.000 Okay, like you said.

00:26:18.000 Oh, we'll hear this one out.

00:26:19.000 And what happens?

00:26:20.000 Bonk.

00:26:21.000 Turns out to be nonsense.

00:26:23.000 I remember, uh, when George Floyd, the George Floyd video came out.

00:26:26.000 And we all were like, yeah, that video's bad.

00:26:28.000 Like, that should not have gone down that way.

00:26:30.000 And then you, you get the body camera footage and learn a lot more about what was really happening and now you're like, okay, so it's, it's tragic, but...

00:26:38.000 It's a bit different than the way they put it.

00:26:40.000 The original video of George Floyd is a guy being- he's on the ground and they're kneeling on his neck and he dies and it's like, whoa.

00:26:46.000 Then you learn the dude was chewing a speedball behind the wheel of a car.

00:26:49.000 The police brought him out.

00:26:51.000 Floyd demanded, begged, and screamed to get me out of the car and put me on the ground.

00:26:55.000 He had a cocktail of drugs in his system.

00:26:58.000 Still, he should have been given proper medical treatment.

00:27:02.000 You know?

00:27:03.000 But it's nowhere near what actually went down.

00:27:05.000 Ahmaud Arbery is the most egregious.

00:27:07.000 The people who... I know conservatives who still don't know the real story of what happened with Ahmaud Arbery and the McMichaels.

00:27:13.000 And we've had people on this show come on and be like, well, the Ahmaud Arbery thing, that was justice.

00:27:17.000 I'm like, are you kidding?

00:27:18.000 Did you even watch that?

00:27:20.000 I'm sick of this.

00:27:21.000 Russell Brand, in the corporate press and in the movies, is celebrated.

00:27:25.000 Oh, this woman went to the police?

00:27:27.000 I'm glad she did.

00:27:28.000 If there's evidence that comes out, so be it.

00:27:30.000 Then Russell Brand should go to prison, if it's true.

00:27:31.000 Not police, the rape crisis center.

00:27:34.000 Okay, well then I don't believe it, sorry.

00:27:36.000 You need evidence to convict somebody.

00:27:39.000 There's a lot of things people can do, and there's a lot of fake things people do, but my point ultimately, We have spent all of our time giving the benefit of the doubt to so many different people who are evil.

00:27:51.000 At this point, I'm just like, you know, I don't know, maybe it was 20 years ago.

00:27:55.000 You prove it, we have a story.

00:27:57.000 If not, I think it's being used to target Rumble.

00:28:02.000 It's being used to stop Russell Brand from producing high-profile, high-traffic anti-establishment media.

00:28:11.000 And they're pushing a conspiracy theory that the only reason Russell Brand actually opposes the establishment is because he was trying to build a base to protect him from accusations against them?

00:28:21.000 It's psychotic.

00:28:23.000 Total BS.

00:28:23.000 Sorry.

00:28:24.000 I'm not buying it.

00:28:26.000 Anyway, I think that horse has been beaten to death, and we're continuing to beat it.

00:28:32.000 But we'll jump to this story, because I want to show you the depravity of the establishment.

00:28:36.000 It's from NBC News.

00:28:38.000 Standing ovation for a Ukrainian who fought with Nazis sparks anger and an apology in Canada.

00:28:44.000 I'd like to slow down for you all and just rephrase that headline, NBC News.

00:28:47.000 Uh-oh.

00:28:48.000 How about, Canadians give standing ovation to Nazi. 0.58

00:28:53.000 Does that work for you guys?

00:28:55.000 There you go.

00:28:56.000 Yaroslav Hanka, 98, was recognized by lawmakers shortly after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the Canadian Parliament.

00:29:03.000 Why are they celebrating a Nazi?

00:29:07.000 This was very hard for me to understand.

00:29:09.000 They said that they brought him there because he was a Ukrainian and Canadian hero.

00:29:14.000 Canadian hero?

00:29:15.000 Because he's living in Canada, so he has, you know, residency there.

00:29:19.000 But then very quickly said, oh, we actually forgot to do a background check and look him up, which if you compare this to the State of the Union, anytime they're like, and tonight with us is Andy Ngo, a journalist, like someone has vetted this person.

00:29:32.000 Surely that's why they are.

00:29:33.000 They didn't just walk into the chamber and happen to take a seat, right?

00:29:37.000 The idea that this person was not researched beforehand either shows that the entire Canadian government needs to consider restaffing or that they were aware of this but didn't understand the implications of... Well, they don't care.

00:29:49.000 I think Canada does care.

00:29:51.000 I think they are just not aware of any sort of form of history. 0.85

00:29:54.000 I think they are Nazis. 0.53

00:29:55.000 You think all of Canada's Nazis? 0.99

00:29:56.000 No, I think the people like Trudeau, they are Nazis. 0.98

00:30:01.000 They learn to masquerade and shield their eugenicist, racist policies and cheer for Nazis. 0.66

00:30:11.000 So the big irony here is that the Speaker of the House of Commons in the Canadian Parliament, so he's with the Liberal Party, that's Trudeau's party, invited him and the Nazi war veteran.

00:30:29.000 Apparently, all they had to hear was that he served on a unit that fought the USSR, but didn't ask whether, well, fighting against them on behalf of who?

00:30:41.000 Well, fighting on behalf of the Nazis. 0.66

00:30:44.000 It was an SS unit. And I guess people should remember that just a year and a half ago,

00:30:55.000 January 2022, when the Canadian convoy protests were happening, the Liberal government, Trudeau,

00:31:02.000 condemned them and said that they were using Nazi symbolism and Nazi imagery and racism.

00:31:09.000 And here they are now, Prime Minister Trudeau next to President Zelensky and the entire parliament giving a standing ovation to not just an accused Nazi or somebody who's accused of being far right, but an actual Nazi veteran.

00:31:27.000 Yeah.

00:31:29.000 He was a, he served in the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, a Nazi military unit whose crimes against humanity during the Holocaust are well documented.

00:31:40.000 Well, there you go, Canada.

00:31:41.000 I think they have no understanding of history, right?

00:31:44.000 Right now, Russia is the big enemy. 0.94

00:31:45.000 And so anyone who fought against Russia seems good, but they have very little understanding of actual World War Two history.

00:31:52.000 So they don't understand that they do.

00:31:55.000 I'm not, I'm not willing to rule out that they do, but I just think a lot of it is someone said, oh, this would be a great viral moment where we stand up for this and they had no idea because they're just not well-versed.

00:32:06.000 Okay, well, you know, I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt here.

00:32:08.000 Let's, let's, we'll do this.

00:32:09.000 Okay, so they're in Canada.

00:32:10.000 What can I say?

00:32:10.000 It's Canadian, right?

00:32:11.000 Well, let's talk about here in the United States.

00:32:14.000 In the United States, Trudeau would be a progressive.

00:32:16.000 He would be aligned with the left and leftists to a great degree.

00:32:19.000 government in the United States, right? It's progressives, right? I'm not trying to, it's

00:32:22.000 not a trick question. In the United States, Trudeau is, would be a progressive. He would

00:32:26.000 be aligned with the left and leftist to a great degree.

00:32:30.000 Okay. Um, are leftists antisemitic?

00:32:33.000 Yes. There's not, that's not a question.

00:32:36.000 You look at Black Lives Matter and their support, or I should say, many of these prominent celebrities who supported Black Lives Matter and also support Farrakhan and the things he said, unsurprising.

00:32:48.000 You look at the article from Tablet Magazine about when they went to the Women's March, the organizers, and were pushing anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, unsurprising.

00:32:57.000 I just gotta be honest, I would not be surprised if eugenicist anti-semites who share political views happen to cheer for a Nazi. 0.67

00:33:07.000 I mean, is that surprising to anybody?

00:33:09.000 No, no.

00:33:09.000 You're like, okay, so they're eugenicists, they want racial segregation, they, uh, like, what more are we supposed to argue here?

00:33:17.000 That they use a different word for whatever it is there?

00:33:20.000 Okay, fine, I don't care, call them whatever you want, they're the same thing.

00:33:23.000 It's so funny to me that in a society where everything is racist or anti-semitic, everybody can get accused of this except for people who are aligned with supporting Ukraine, including the actual soldiers themselves.

00:33:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:37.000 I mean, you know, Russia goes the other direction.

00:33:39.000 They try and claim that everything happening is denazification. 1.00

00:33:42.000 And I'm like, that's stupid, too. 0.99

00:33:44.000 Like Russia is not invading Ukraine because there's Nazis there because they want access to Crimea. 0.99

00:33:49.000 But, you know, Russia is now clipping this thing of Zelensky being there and plotting the actual affiliated Nazi and being like, see, we told you we're here for denazification.

00:33:58.000 It's also the story has also become a big scandal in Poland because that particular unit that that elderly man was part of was involved in a lot of slaughtering of a lot of Poles.

00:34:10.000 Yep.

00:34:13.000 They didn't vet him!

00:34:13.000 But they didn't know!

00:34:14.000 It's an accident! 1.00

00:34:15.000 That's the stupidest lie I've ever heard. 1.00

00:34:17.000 I just can't, like, how could you even pass that off? 1.00

00:34:20.000 I mean, it's ridiculous. 1.00

00:34:22.000 I can't say whether or not they're all antisemitic and eugenicists, but they're definitely stupid. 1.00

00:34:26.000 Well, as I often say, it's the banality of evil or it's malicious evil. 1.00

00:34:29.000 How many of them are actually maliciously anti-semitic eugenicists?

00:34:32.000 Eh, there are probably a few. 1.00

00:34:33.000 But they're smart enough to get a bunch of morons to clap and cheer for a Nazi. 1.00

00:34:37.000 So all you need to understand about how stupid these people are and how dangerous they are is that they don't know or care who they are clapping and cheering for. 1.00

00:34:46.000 It's like when Joe Biden said, Trinidad and Shabba to pressure and the crowd goes, yay! 1.00

00:34:50.000 And they're all clapping and cheering and you're like, this is crazy.

00:34:54.000 Joe Biden goes on stage and says, Batacav Care, and everyone's just clapping and cheering.

00:34:57.000 They don't know what he said!

00:34:58.000 They just know they're supposed to clap, and so they did.

00:35:03.000 It's frustrating to me that, um...

00:35:07.000 Often quite educated people.

00:35:10.000 So they're very good at recognizing propaganda from Russia and good for them for that and calling it out.

00:35:16.000 But the propaganda that is coming out from Ukraine, it's like they just there's no scrutiny of any of it.

00:35:22.000 And there's so much propaganda, this whole, you know, this one turning a blind eye to the contemporary connections to Nazi organizing in Ukraine.

00:35:33.000 That's completely now no longer an issue to liberals around the world.

00:35:39.000 And then Ukraine now being reframed as this bastion of liberal and progressive values when that's not the reality of what that country is, nor their society.

00:35:54.000 No, I think it's all political theater.

00:35:56.000 I think so much of this is just people not willing to question Ukraine in any instance at all.

00:36:03.000 And so you can't call it any propaganda because you're not allowed to doubt Ukraine's motives in anything.

00:36:07.000 You're not even allowed to have any kind of doubt.

00:36:09.000 You're supposed to submit entirely to supporting Ukraine and never question any of it. 0.89

00:36:13.000 I mean, look how much money we have shipped over to Ukraine.

00:36:15.000 Why?

00:36:15.000 Because we're just supposed to.

00:36:17.000 And those who do speak out are then smeared as somehow fans of Russia or fans of Putin.

00:36:26.000 I mean, yeah, the smear tactics just causes people to become fearful.

00:36:30.000 And I think so much of it is just a lack of understanding of geopolitical history, right?

00:36:36.000 They have no idea what the ties are.

00:36:38.000 You know, they don't know what happened in Crimea.

00:36:39.000 They don't know what to say.

00:36:40.000 They just know right now it's good to have your blue and yellow flag out and to agree with whatever Biden says and therefore whatever Zelensky says.

00:36:46.000 Yes.

00:36:47.000 They want a simple story of villains and heroes.

00:36:50.000 Who's a good guy and who's a bad guy. 1.00

00:36:53.000 And then it leads them to do stupid mistakes. 1.00

00:36:55.000 I think it was a genuine mistake like what happened in the Canadian Parliament. 0.99

00:36:59.000 Oh, a Ukrainian World War II hero veteran.

00:37:01.000 Great!

00:37:02.000 Let's invite him!

00:37:04.000 They stop looking.

00:37:05.000 And I think that's also a testament to the shortened attention span.

00:37:07.000 I mean, I assume whoever vetted him is fairly young, working in a staff position for this elected official, and they think, oh yeah, I read most of that headline and I know what I'm talking about.

00:37:17.000 I don't think it matters.

00:37:18.000 I don't think it matters at all whether it's a mistake or not.

00:37:22.000 That's just, at this point in the culture war, in this point in the war with Russia and Eastern Europe, all that matters is what they do. 0.55

00:37:32.000 If we sit around saying like, well, you know, that was a mistake, every single time they scream and cheer for Nazis, it's like, okay, you're gonna be giving the benefit of the doubt to them the entire way.

00:37:44.000 It's like, we're sitting in a car with these people and they're driving full speed, pedal to the metal, Foot to the floor, right towards a cliff, and we're like, well, but hold on a minute.

00:37:53.000 They're probably gonna turn, right?

00:37:54.000 They're not gonna drive off the cliff.

00:37:56.000 They wouldn't do that.

00:37:57.000 And then every single time it's... So at this point, I'm just like, I don't care what they thought they were doing.

00:38:02.000 This is what they do.

00:38:03.000 It's who they are.

00:38:05.000 That's it.

00:38:06.000 So all I can say is, yes, Canadian Parliament gave a standing ovation to a Nazi. 0.61

00:38:11.000 Yeah, but as I said, I don't care why they did it, they did it.

00:38:13.000 Ukraine has become so good at playing the West like a fiddle. 0.99

00:38:17.000 One of their spokespersons now is this transgender American.

00:38:20.000 Not anymore, though.

00:38:21.000 Oh, that changed?

00:38:22.000 I think they got rid of that person because the trans spokesperson threatened to kill anyone or something like that.

00:38:29.000 Was that what happened?

00:38:31.000 I can look it up, but I'm not sure.

00:38:32.000 There's like a video where... Okay, well, either was or until very recently, this transgender American spokesperson for Ukrainian military who doesn't even speak Ukrainian.

00:38:42.000 Obviously, that's, you know, playing to the sentiments of the left in the United States.

00:38:47.000 Ukraine's a colony of the United States. 0.64

00:38:49.000 And then when Zelensky went to the UN giving a speech and talking about climate change.

00:38:53.000 Oh, right.

00:38:53.000 But listen.

00:38:54.000 Ukraine is a colony of the United States. 0.75

00:38:57.000 That's why an American English-speaking leftist is the one talking about what's going on.

00:39:02.000 It doesn't matter who is in Ukraine.

00:39:04.000 NATO and the West don't care.

00:39:06.000 And when you learn that the US has been funding the businesses and everything in Ukraine...

00:39:11.000 Might as well consider Ukraine a colony of the United States.

00:39:14.000 Just call it... I don't care for this wordplay that we have in modern politics, right?

00:39:19.000 Where it's just like, well, you know, oh, not really.

00:39:21.000 We don't call it that.

00:39:23.000 Are we at war with Russia?

00:39:24.000 Yes.

00:39:25.000 In all form and function, but...

00:39:27.000 Is it declared?

00:39:29.000 When was the last time the U.S.

00:39:30.000 declared a war against anybody?

00:39:31.000 We just go and do it.

00:39:32.000 So you've got U.S.

00:39:33.000 citizens volunteering with U.S.

00:39:36.000 weapons, with U.S.

00:39:37.000 training, with U.S.-backed artillery and intelligence, and it's like, but it's Ukraine that's at war.

00:39:44.000 Yeah, Russia doesn't think so. 1.00

00:39:45.000 Because practically, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 1.00

00:39:48.000 And this is where we're currently at. 0.99

00:39:50.000 Well, let me pull up this story here from the New York Times.

00:39:54.000 First, Abrams tanks arrive in Ukraine, Zelensky says.

00:39:58.000 U.S.

00:39:58.000 officials said that an initial batch of 31 M1 Abrams tanks promised to Ukraine by the Biden administration have been delivered months ahead of estimates.

00:40:07.000 And it's not just that.

00:40:08.000 It's also this.

00:40:09.000 Sixty minutes reported just the other day.

00:40:11.000 It was discovered that the U.S.

00:40:13.000 is financing more than weapons in Ukraine.

00:40:16.000 The government is buying seeds, fertilizer for farmers, paying the salaries of 57,000 first responders, and subsidizing small businesses.

00:40:24.000 I call that a colony.

00:40:27.000 Yeah.

00:40:28.000 That's it.

00:40:29.000 Ukraine is a colony of the United States. 0.75

00:40:32.000 Oh, just wait, I'll count down until I get the Russell Brand treatment.

00:40:35.000 Because I think the war machine is the bigger reason why they're going after Russell Brand.

00:40:40.000 People think it's Big Pharma, I disagree.

00:40:42.000 And it's, look, I mean, 60 Minutes reports this, so maybe they'll go after, who does it?

00:40:47.000 Scott Pelley?

00:40:48.000 Is that who's doing 60 Minutes?

00:40:49.000 I think so.

00:40:50.000 Yeah, maybe they'll go after him.

00:40:51.000 He's gonna get accused.

00:40:51.000 That'll be hilarious.

00:40:52.000 But the United States, your tax dollars are not going to fight a war in Russia.

00:41:00.000 Your tax dollars are propping up small businesses in Ukraine.

00:41:03.000 Now ask yourself, why is CBS News reporting this?

00:41:07.000 Ukraine is a colony of the United States, which means we pay for their public, their civilian public infrastructure, first responders.

00:41:15.000 It means we subsidize their small businesses, and it means we cover the cost of defense.

00:41:20.000 That's an American colony as far as I'm concerned.

00:41:22.000 Or call it NATO, whatever you want, but the U.S.

00:41:24.000 is what's paying for all this.

00:41:26.000 I'm surprised that this is actually being reported, because I'm sure this has been going on for the entire time we've been sending them money.

00:41:33.000 We've sent them, I think, $113 billion.

00:41:35.000 There's no way people genuinely thought that was all going to a war effort.

00:41:40.000 Yeah, I mean, it's funny how they support small businesses when they're in Ukraine.

00:41:43.000 But not in the U.S., you know?

00:41:45.000 That's the point.

00:41:45.000 I mean, the U.S.

00:41:46.000 is in decay.

00:41:47.000 We've got crime running rampant, but jeez.

00:41:51.000 Yeah, it's frustrating, isn't it?

00:41:53.000 I mean, and now we're supposed to go to the polls, right?

00:41:55.000 I mean, we were saying people just become crazy during election years, but how could you not when you know that you suffered after everything that happened during COVID, the economic turmoil that small businesses, small communities felt because of this to know that this is how Joe Biden decided to spend your tax dollars.

00:42:12.000 It can't feel like anything but a slap in the face.

00:42:15.000 Worse than that.

00:42:16.000 So how many people lost their businesses?

00:42:18.000 How many people had to shut down their stores and go get a job at Walmart, and then you find out that all of your hard work and the money they took from you is propping up a small business in Ukraine?

00:42:28.000 That's more than a slap in the face.

00:42:30.000 That's sedition.

00:42:31.000 I mean, that is... You know, you can argue it's not really treason because treason has specific parameters, but it is something.

00:42:40.000 For the government to take money and resources from Americans and who are suffering and their businesses are shutting down and send all of that over to Ukraine for what?

00:42:50.000 It's a complete lack of loyalty to the American people of any part of the country, right?

00:42:54.000 It's an occupation of the American people and an extraction of their resources to fund other countries. 0.83

00:42:59.000 Yeah.

00:42:59.000 It's like mercantilism in the reverse.

00:43:01.000 We're just giving it to the colony.

00:43:03.000 Or we have an occupying political force in the United States that's extracting as much as possible before it implodes.

00:43:11.000 I mean, this is one of the reasons that I'd love to see a Democratic presidential debate, because I'd love to see Joe Biden, number one, have to talk publicly at all, but also have to answer questions about things like this.

00:43:19.000 Because so far, as long as the Democratic Party can keep it in the background and, you know, certain fractions of the media will talk about it, certain people will talk about it, but ultimately the average voter should know, should see the dollar amount of what is being sent abroad and where it is going.

00:43:34.000 Because it's not the story of just we're helping poor Ukraine that's being bullied by Russia.

00:43:37.000 There is a much bigger cost.

00:43:39.000 And ultimately, the Biden administration is going to pretend that that's not happening for as long as possible, as will the Democratic Party as a whole.

00:43:46.000 I think the Republicans need to talk about this in the debate stage as well, because I'm not convinced that if another Republican not named Donald Trump gets in there, they're going to stop funding.

00:43:54.000 I think it would just continue.

00:43:56.000 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:43:58.000 I think if it's Vivek, you'll see the funding stop.

00:44:02.000 But Nikki Haley is the inverse. 0.99

00:44:05.000 She's screaming with blood spraying from her mouth that she wants to blow up children in foreign countries. 1.00

00:44:11.000 I despise that woman, by the way. 1.00

00:44:13.000 These people are all warmongers. 0.98

00:44:15.000 They can't give a rational, reasonable justification for what they do, what they want, what they're funding.

00:44:19.000 They just lie.

00:44:21.000 I think, was it Nikki Haley who lied and said that Putin said Poland's next or something like that?

00:44:26.000 Yeah, I think she was a part of that.

00:44:29.000 During the lesser-known Republican debate?

00:44:32.000 Something like that.

00:44:33.000 And you've got anti-war left and right being like, what is wrong with these people?

00:44:38.000 Their brains are not right.

00:44:40.000 There is something wrong.

00:44:42.000 You want to make an argument for intervention in war?

00:44:44.000 You can make the argument.

00:44:46.000 You can talk about Russia aligning with China.

00:44:50.000 The U.S.

00:44:51.000 is trying to defend Ukraine and stop Russia from gaining more resources in Eastern Europe and expanding their economic stranglehold in the region.

00:44:58.000 As they team up with Russia, it creates a very big threat, so the U.S. 0.97

00:45:00.000 is trying to push back.

00:45:01.000 I know all that stuff.

00:45:02.000 I've heard all the arguments.

00:45:03.000 But that's not the arguments they make.

00:45:04.000 So long as they want to keep lying about what they're doing, then so be it.

00:45:07.000 They deserve to lose.

00:45:08.000 Yeah.

00:45:11.000 But will they actually?

00:45:12.000 Lose?

00:45:13.000 I mean, yeah.

00:45:13.000 They've lost!

00:45:15.000 We had that one report, uh, Adrian Norman wrote for TimCast.com, uh, well, and to be fair, it was, it was, um, it was Seymour Hersh, I think?

00:45:22.000 I think so.

00:45:22.000 It was a report from him, uh, that he was speaking with an intelligence official.

00:45:25.000 So Seymour Hersh reported, an intelligence official said, oh, it's over.

00:45:28.000 Russia won.

00:45:29.000 What did Russia want? 0.74

00:45:30.000 They wanted the land bridge into Crimea.

00:45:31.000 They got it.

00:45:32.000 Now what?

00:45:32.000 Now they defend it.

00:45:34.000 That's it.

00:45:35.000 So what are we doing there?

00:45:36.000 Trying to stop them?

00:45:38.000 If the US's goal really here is to just strip Russia's access to Crimea and the Mediterranean, then it's basically just the US declaring war on Russia.

00:45:47.000 Yeah, there's no end in sight, which also aids the Biden administration to continue to send money over.

00:45:52.000 I mean, there is nothing in this for the American people, and so I don't understand why we continue it.

00:45:58.000 It costs them every single day, and Russia already has its main objective. 0.97

00:46:02.000 It doesn't seem like a productive war, but we're going to be there for as long as a Democrat is in office, and probably a lot of Republicans, too.

00:46:11.000 A productive war, yeah.

00:46:12.000 Like the last one that we were in?

00:46:14.000 Yeah, so many productive wars in history.

00:46:16.000 But again, like, at a certain point, I mean, the US and the EU could say, we're going to broker a deal.

00:46:25.000 Isn't this what Donald Trump said?

00:46:26.000 He said, day one, I'm going to stop this war.

00:46:28.000 That would be the first thing I did.

00:46:30.000 The war would stop exactly where it is.

00:46:32.000 Exactly.

00:46:33.000 And Russia would say, okay.

00:46:34.000 Why is no one else doing that?

00:46:35.000 Right?

00:46:36.000 Like, why do we have to keep doing this?

00:46:42.000 I'm asking such deep questions tonight on TimCast IRL.

00:46:44.000 I'm stunning all of our guests.

00:46:46.000 I mean, do you guys know anyone who's like, yes, this is a great idea, let us continue to send money to Ukraine?

00:46:52.000 Not at all.

00:46:53.000 Well, I think among Democrats, it's still quite a popular position.

00:46:53.000 No?

00:46:58.000 And certainly in the EU and in UK, that remains a really popular position.

00:47:04.000 But why?

00:47:05.000 What is their objective, other than we just don't like Russia? 0.86

00:47:08.000 Well, there's this whole apparatus in the media that does put out the propaganda talking points from Ukraine about this being more than just a war between two nations.

00:47:20.000 It's a war between good and evil.

00:47:23.000 And it's packaged in a way that's simple for the masses, and it works.

00:47:28.000 There's a good side and a bad side.

00:47:30.000 And it's popular among Democrats in the U.S.

00:47:33.000 and liberal voters in Canada.

00:47:37.000 And liberal people in Europe.

00:47:39.000 But is it enough to outweigh the economic hardship that people in the U.S.

00:47:44.000 I mean, we were just talking about gas prices in L.A.

00:47:44.000 are facing?

00:47:46.000 are crazy.

00:47:47.000 If you heard, this is your cost of living, but also we're still going to continue to fund this war abroad, it would be impossible, at least in my opinion, for anyone who's reasonable to say, that's a good use of our tax dollars. 0.99

00:47:47.000 Ridiculous. 0.99

00:47:59.000 I appreciate this. 0.94

00:48:01.000 I think it's just a lot of people aren't really paying attention to it.

00:48:05.000 They just think it's something that's going on and that we're kind of supporting it and it's the current thing.

00:48:11.000 But people, when you present the facts to them, when you say, hey, actually all this money's going here, they would say, yeah, you know, easily, we should stop funding.

00:48:19.000 But nobody's really presenting it to them, so they're not seeing the alternative.

00:48:23.000 Yeah.

00:48:24.000 Well, it's a nuanced issue.

00:48:27.000 And it's difficult, I think, for the masses to comprehend and to come up with an informed position.

00:48:32.000 It's similar to the problems that arise from immigration.

00:48:35.000 You know, we know what it does on the labor market, what it does, how it makes housing crisis worse, but people By and large, in urban areas don't really push back on the policies of sanctuary cities or U.S.

00:48:48.000 immigration policy.

00:48:49.000 In fact, in these areas, they're the loudest in saying, you know, well, have them come in.

00:48:55.000 They want their cake and to eat it too.

00:48:57.000 And they don't realize that the balancing the books actually in the end doesn't really work.

00:49:01.000 You're going to suffer one way or the other.

00:49:03.000 And I, yeah, you know, I mean, this is really the responsibility of the press to present The truth on these issues to the public, but the establishment legacy media fails in that because they're captured.

00:49:19.000 Could you think the legacy media would ever go back to having a standard for truth or do you think it's a lost cause?

00:49:26.000 The journalism programs at the universities that lead to people going into New York Times and Washington Post and other places, it's all... I mean, these programs have long been captured.

00:49:38.000 I don't really know how you can, at this point, do much.

00:49:43.000 So what's the future of legacy media, in your opinion?

00:49:49.000 Gosh.

00:49:54.000 I don't know.

00:49:56.000 What I would like to see happen is independent and conservative media having more support from philanthropists, for one.

00:50:05.000 It's really hard to get independent media well-funded.

00:50:10.000 Writers need to be paid reporters.

00:50:13.000 It's a lot of work, it's a lot of money to get that type of stuff going, and we just have to build up these different institutions, I guess.

00:50:22.000 I mean, it's a cliché, what I'm saying, but really it's so important, and I think what causes a lot of Conservative or independent media to go under is ultimately just the funding's not there.

00:50:36.000 People want to get their news for free.

00:50:38.000 Everyone hates going to a news link and then you have to log in or you have to pay or something, you know?

00:50:44.000 But that or the experience is filled with a whole bunch of ads and that's not pleasant either, but it's... Unless you're Rumble and then there's no Burger King ads.

00:50:53.000 And the left has more than enough patrons, so they will get funding from powerful, prominent individuals who want to prop up the system.

00:51:01.000 They'll pay millions of dollars to websites that can't make a penny.

00:51:04.000 Of Soros has funded media as well.

00:51:06.000 Of course, of course.

00:51:08.000 And then on the right, you just got the people who want to contribute, sign up and join and pay what they can.

00:51:15.000 That's about it.

00:51:16.000 But I think there's been enough stress on the system that more and more people are waking up.

00:51:21.000 And starting to join these subscription programs and make contributions.

00:51:26.000 And I think the independent media space is becoming better at providing real incentives and real value to their members and their customers.

00:51:34.000 I was at Black Dog Coffee nearby on Friday and someone came up to me and you know I've only been on the show for a little while so it doesn't happen all the time but he was like, Hey, I love the work that you guys do.

00:51:34.000 Yeah.

00:51:44.000 And I was like, oh my gosh, thanks so much.

00:51:45.000 And he's like, yeah, where else am I supposed to get my news?

00:51:48.000 Which I found really interesting.

00:51:49.000 It's telling.

00:51:50.000 People rely on alternative media in a way that even a decade ago they couldn't have.

00:51:55.000 And sort of like the sphere of influencer marketing, it's something no one could have predicted because it's a break from the traditional model built on technology that didn't exist 20 years ago.

00:52:04.000 Yeah.

00:52:06.000 Well, let's jump to the story from TimGuest.com.

00:52:09.000 Washington Post downplays its own poll that shows Trump beating Biden by 10 points.

00:52:16.000 The poll found 56% of Americans disapproving of Biden.

00:52:19.000 Take a look at this.

00:52:20.000 I'll just jump right to 538.

00:52:22.000 The last two polls we have from ABC News and the Washington Post show Trump is up 10 points and 9 points.

00:52:28.000 I love this, because if you even go back to last week, you'd do it.

00:52:32.000 Biden does have a poll right here against Trump.

00:52:34.000 He's up 2.

00:52:35.000 But you've got Trump up 3 in this one, up 5, up 3.

00:52:38.000 It looks like, and what do we have?

00:52:39.000 One of them's big.

00:52:40.000 One of them's got like 6,000.

00:52:42.000 Morning Counsel?

00:52:43.000 No, these are older ones.

00:52:44.000 Yeah, I guess they must change a lot.

00:52:47.000 Talking about this earlier, you've got this one from September 15th, 2,500 people.

00:52:49.000 Trump's up 1 point.

00:52:52.000 Let's go back here.

00:52:52.000 3,000 registered voters.

00:52:55.000 Harris X. Trump is up 5.

00:52:57.000 Yeah, so they did change this from what I was reading earlier.

00:53:01.000 But you can see basically when it's not Trump, when it's Junkin, DeSantis, when it's Haley.

00:53:06.000 Actually, Haley beats Joe Biden, while surprising.

00:53:09.000 But you can see that Trump's winning.

00:53:10.000 That's it.

00:53:11.000 We did not have this in the 2020 cycle.

00:53:13.000 So it would stand to reason if the election were held today, Joe Biden loses.

00:53:19.000 But how's he doing in the crucial states, though?

00:53:23.000 I don't know.

00:53:23.000 That's a good question.

00:53:24.000 I can say that this poll also found among independents, Trump is up, I think, like 11.

00:53:29.000 So that matters.

00:53:31.000 Independent voters matters for the swing states, but the swing states themselves.

00:53:34.000 It's a more important question individually.

00:53:36.000 I think Trump just needs to win.

00:53:38.000 What does he need, like Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin or something?

00:53:43.000 Yeah, good luck.

00:53:44.000 Because that's not even a question of sentiments, it's a question of procedure.

00:53:48.000 Trump's going to need to overcome massive procedural biases against him with these states.

00:53:53.000 I'm not surprised that these poll numbers, everybody that I talk to, they would take Trump over Biden any day, but I am surprised that the Washington Post actually released it.

00:54:03.000 And that kind of gives me a little bit concerned because maybe they might start putting these out to kind of put the narrative in that, oh, the Democrats need to replace Joe Biden, because everybody's been talking about he'll eventually be replaced, but we don't know how it's going to come.

00:54:16.000 I don't see him just stepping down.

00:54:19.000 So they might try to take him out with some sort of scandal, or maybe they just start highlighting actual polls and say, actually, Biden's not doing too good.

00:54:25.000 We got to get somebody out of there.

00:54:27.000 I think you're totally right.

00:54:27.000 I think a lot of it is the Washington Post acknowledging that, at least within their internal structure, they are questioning Joe Biden.

00:54:35.000 And this coincides with the date that they set for the DeSantis-Newsom debate, right?

00:54:40.000 So that's November 30th now.

00:54:41.000 We know that there are people who would like to see a DeSantis-Newsom 2024 race.

00:54:48.000 That's what they ultimately want.

00:54:51.000 I think that there is no clear way.

00:54:53.000 I mean, we've talked about it a fair amount on the show.

00:54:55.000 There's no clear way for them to just swap out Biden for Newsom.

00:54:59.000 It would be sort of a dramatic production, but there is enough bifurcation within the party that they don't know that they actually want to see Biden there.

00:55:09.000 There's another poll that came out today.

00:55:11.000 I think the company called Harris X that found, you know, among voters Biden is ahead, but Kennedy is consistently gaining ground.

00:55:20.000 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:55:21.000 is consistently gaining ground.

00:55:22.000 People are interested in him.

00:55:23.000 And then there is a huge portion of voters, even among registered Democrats, you know, 16% at least, that say that they would want someone else.

00:55:31.000 They aren't happy with, you know, Merriam-Williamson, RFK Jr.

00:55:35.000 or Biden, but they also Don't know who would be there.

00:55:40.000 I mean, you get you see that there is sort of a rumbling to see if maybe someone else would would step up.

00:55:47.000 I don't know.

00:55:47.000 It's crazy.

00:55:48.000 I mean, RFK Jr.

00:55:49.000 has initially came out, I think, around 5 percent, and he's consistently climbed.

00:55:54.000 I'm seeing him poll consistently.

00:55:56.000 He's 12, 16 percent.

00:55:57.000 Yeah.

00:55:58.000 And I think they've just lost control of the machine.

00:56:02.000 Right.

00:56:04.000 They can't do anything about it.

00:56:05.000 If Biden was the best, they could muster the screwed.

00:56:08.000 Yeah.

00:56:09.000 But they don't have a clear way to handle getting rid of him.

00:56:11.000 And I think I've always thought it was that Biden himself wants to stay for as long as possible.

00:56:16.000 Why would he want to step down?

00:56:17.000 He's, in my opinion, obviously in ill health.

00:56:22.000 And so that's why you would get his press secretary saying, oh, well, he's still considering what to do, even when Biden had made statements saying, no, I intend to run again.

00:56:30.000 This went on for a long time.

00:56:31.000 It was sort of strange.

00:56:33.000 Sort of rolled out this video campaign discreetly, you know, to be a video that he was going to run for a second election or a second term.

00:56:39.000 I think it wouldn't be the case if they really felt he was in a strong position in terms of his policies and his health.

00:56:45.000 I think that they would celebrate him as the incumbent if they if they really believed in him and the Democratic Party doesn't.

00:56:53.000 I feel like that's becoming more and more obvious every day.

00:56:54.000 I feel like there's eventually going to be a point, like Tim talked about, how if Newsom comes and saves Biden passing out on stage or something like that, there's going to be a point where that's going to happen.

00:57:02.000 It's just going to take a couple more polls that are indicating the right, you know, for us, I guess you could say us, and that we would like seeing Trump ahead of him.

00:57:10.000 Just a couple more.

00:57:10.000 I think we're like right there.

00:57:11.000 I think we're seeing a repeat of, who am I thinking of?

00:57:17.000 The Supreme Court Justice, who everyone wanted to step down and then she didn't. 0.99

00:57:21.000 Oh, uh, Bader Ginsburg?

00:57:22.000 Yes, thank you.

00:57:23.000 Uh, when Ruth Bader Ginsburg was, was, they were trying to time it so that a Democrat could appoint her and there were a lot of people said she stayed too long and then ultimately, uh, died when Donald Trump was in office and that was such a disaster.

00:57:34.000 I think in some ways Biden's gonna do the same thing, which is he really should step down and he said, you know, All sorts of things when he was running.

00:57:41.000 He made it overtures as if he would be a one-term president but he was really sort of here to defeat Donald Trump and obviously now ego before everything else he doesn't want to give up his seat or at least the powers that have kept him in a seat don't want him to go.

00:57:53.000 I think Trump wins 2024.

00:57:55.000 Yeah?

00:57:55.000 Easily.

00:57:58.000 I mean, I don't know about easily.

00:57:59.000 I think there's gonna be a lot of crazy that happens, but I just think, narratively, Trump's gonna win.

00:58:04.000 Who do you think is, uh... It's Elon Musk's adage, right?

00:58:08.000 The most entertaining outcome tends to be, is it Elon's Razor?

00:58:11.000 Yeah.

00:58:12.000 Or did someone else come up with that?

00:58:13.000 That's someone else's quote, isn't it?

00:58:14.000 The most entertaining outcome tends to be the... I thought it was Elon Musk, but maybe he's just passed it off well.

00:58:19.000 I just can't imagine a world in which we don't get another term of Donald Trump.

00:58:23.000 I just don't know.

00:58:25.000 But, like, all the pieces lined up on the chessboard.

00:58:27.000 Biden?

00:58:28.000 I mean, to be fair, a Biden presidency is also comical.

00:58:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:58:33.000 Like, at this point in his life, seeing, like, the president wheeled out to the podium in a wheelchair with a burlap, with, like, a little blanket on his lap, and he's like, and you're like, you know?

00:58:43.000 Spicy!

00:58:44.000 It's comical, but costly.

00:58:46.000 I don't know that we could actually do it.

00:58:47.000 Who do you think the vice president be?

00:58:50.000 Who do you think Trump's going to pick as a vice president? 0.88

00:58:52.000 I don't know.

00:58:52.000 Because I feel like his vice president is actually going to be sort of important.

00:58:55.000 I mean, given everything that's going on.

00:58:57.000 Yeah.

00:58:58.000 You guys really think that a Republican can win in 2024, given how the electoral process has changed since COVID?

00:59:07.000 Yes.

00:59:07.000 I mean, those changes... Trump only lost by 42,000 votes in 2020.

00:59:12.000 Yes, but in my opinion, the way elections are run in many states, it systematically disadvantages Republicans.

00:59:22.000 Of course it does.

00:59:23.000 But Trump only lost by 42,000 votes.

00:59:25.000 The advantage Democrats had with universal mail-in voting was everyone was locked inside their homes and they couldn't leave.

00:59:30.000 They don't have that advantage anymore.

00:59:31.000 So they'll need something.

00:59:33.000 But we've had other elections since November 2020, and it hasn't really turned out that well for Republicans.

00:59:40.000 Because Republicans are only just now starting to wake up to the issue.

00:59:43.000 And, again, we're talking about an electoral system where Trump lost by 42,000 votes in three states, which could easily be made up, versus individual members of Congress in key districts.

00:59:53.000 Where we were like, wow, we're surprised they did not do better.

00:59:55.000 Well, yeah, I mean, in Lauren Bobert's district, she came really close to losing. 0.85

00:59:59.000 My favorite thing about that is, as soon as she pulled ahead slightly, her opponent, I think Frisch was his name, was like, no, no, no recount, no recount!

01:00:05.000 Like, what do you mean, no?

01:00:07.000 No, let's go through every single battle with a fine-toothed comb.

01:00:10.000 Well, I think the issue is universal mail-in voting did play a role.

01:00:14.000 It does benefit Democrats, but demographic shift because of COVID benefits Democrats.

01:00:19.000 But the issue really comes down to, do Democrats have the same edge the first time around?

01:00:25.000 Is Joe Biden building confidence?

01:00:27.000 And we're talking about one man at a national level and not individual members of Congress.

01:00:31.000 Because what we did see is that you're likely to get, and this happened in 2018 as well,

01:00:37.000 if you were a Democrat but moderate, you got elected.

01:00:40.000 There were 31 moderate Democrats that were like, we don't wanna fight with Trump,

01:00:43.000 we wanna focus on healthcare, your wages, things like that for you guys, you know, unions,

01:00:49.000 we wanna work for you guys.

01:00:50.000 And so they voted for these dudes.

01:00:53.000 That moderate message works, people care more about kitchen table issues

01:00:55.000 than they do about anything else.

01:00:57.000 Now the issue is with Trump, At the local level, you know that you can vote for a Democrat.

01:01:03.000 You know the guy.

01:01:04.000 He's got a much, you know, it's a smaller constituency.

01:01:08.000 And maybe you talk to him and you trust him.

01:01:09.000 But you've known that four years of Biden has been really, really bad.

01:01:12.000 So you're like, you might, you'll probably get a lot of independents that are going to be like, yeah, maybe vote for a Libertarian Democrat or some middle position, but then vote for Donald Trump for president because that's the practical solution.

01:01:22.000 So yes, can Donald Trump win?

01:01:23.000 Yeah, he only lost by 42,000 votes.

01:01:25.000 How could he not win?

01:01:27.000 That's probably like a million bucks in spending on ads they could have done to get Trump those ballots.

01:01:34.000 I think in 2020 Trump was kind of looked at as the villain amongst Democrats.

01:01:39.000 And even now, going into 2024, he's kind of fondly missed.

01:01:44.000 People miss the days of Trump and they're not so angry at him because they didn't have to deal with him every day for four years.

01:01:51.000 I don't think it's going to be the same outcome as 2020.

01:01:53.000 Yeah.

01:01:55.000 I think there's also a lot of people that have watched the outcome of what their choice was in the ballot box and have seen what the result of that has been.

01:02:01.000 You see people in interviews all the time saying, I voted for Biden last time, I'm not going to vote for him this time.

01:02:05.000 And they feel they're more Like Tim always says, you say like people would crawl through broken glass to vote for Trump.

01:02:10.000 I feel like there are more people.

01:02:11.000 Trump's base.

01:02:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:02:12.000 But there are more and more people that are like that.

01:02:14.000 But I think there's a lot of people that are just like, I ain't crawling over glass for anybody and I'm out.

01:02:18.000 People voted against Trump and all that happened was things got worse and now we're at war and they're probably just like...

01:02:23.000 Do you think voter turnout will be particularly low in 2024?

01:02:27.000 Sorry, I'm stuttering today.

01:02:28.000 I don't know.

01:02:29.000 What was it last time around?

01:02:31.000 I thought it was going to be really high in 2020.

01:02:33.000 I'm not sure.

01:02:34.000 I didn't think it was high.

01:02:35.000 It was high among young people, but that's largely because of mail-in voting, right?

01:02:40.000 I think it was super high.

01:02:42.000 Yeah, I thought it was going to be super high.

01:02:45.000 And then, what do we have here?

01:02:48.000 Voter turnout in 2020.

01:02:52.000 I mean, it's hard to say because population growth.

01:02:56.000 Oh, wait, no, look at this.

01:02:57.000 Oh, this is percentage of voter turnout.

01:02:59.000 This is amazing.

01:03:00.000 In, let's say, 1800, voter turnout was 7%.

01:03:04.000 No, wait, what?

01:03:08.000 U.S.

01:03:08.000 presidential election popular vote totals as a percentage of the total U.S.

01:03:11.000 population.

01:03:12.000 Wow!

01:03:14.000 That is insane.

01:03:18.000 Yeah, that's...

01:03:19.000 Yo, in 1912, voter turnout was under 20%.

01:03:22.000 It was 18%.

01:03:23.000 17%?

01:03:23.000 Does it look like?

01:03:24.000 Wow!

01:03:24.000 Yeah, 17%.

01:03:24.000 No, wait.

01:03:24.000 16%!

01:03:25.000 Yeah, I'm impressed.

01:03:26.000 And that's turnout over total population, though?

01:03:27.000 16% of the U.S.

01:03:28.000 16%!

01:03:30.000 Wow!

01:03:32.000 Yeah, I'm impressed.

01:03:34.000 And that's turn out over total population though?

01:03:36.000 16% of the US population voted for the, voted

01:03:40.000 in the presidential election in 1912.

01:03:44.000 That's not bad.

01:03:46.000 Man, you look at even during the Civil War, nobody was voting.

01:03:49.000 Nobody cared.

01:03:50.000 That's crazy.

01:03:51.000 I mean, a lot less people could have voted too.

01:03:55.000 Percentage-wise?

01:03:57.000 I see what you're saying.

01:03:58.000 Voting was restricted, so I wonder what the turnout is amongst registered voters.

01:04:03.000 It doubles.

01:04:05.000 Wouldn't love going out to do things, I'll tell ya.

01:04:08.000 That looks like it's about it.

01:04:10.000 Just shy of 20%, suffrage happens, and it's just shy of 40%, so it looks like it's slightly more than doubled.

01:04:15.000 And now, since then, it's gone slightly, it's been trending upwards.

01:04:21.000 This only goes to 2016, by the way, but I'm pretty sure 2020 was the biggest.

01:04:26.000 I haven't heard that before as well.

01:04:27.000 Yeah, people are like, 81 million votes for Biden, that didn't happen.

01:04:29.000 I mean, they were mailing out ballots to people's homes.

01:04:32.000 Right.

01:04:32.000 So it wasn't turnout, it was voter participation.

01:04:35.000 Yeah.

01:04:37.000 We'll see what happens.

01:04:38.000 I think it'll go down in 2024, actually, based on that.

01:04:40.000 I'm curious, in California, do you see lots of political signage already?

01:04:45.000 Like, I know in parts of West Virginia, the Trump signs went up in 2016 and have stayed the whole time.

01:04:50.000 Do you see pro-Biden signs?

01:04:52.000 Like, what are you seeing on the ground where you live?

01:04:55.000 I can probably say that I've never seen a pro-Biden sign.

01:05:03.000 Even after Biden won, some of my neighbors still had their Trump flags up.

01:05:07.000 The Trump flags and signs were going up for a while, you know, kind of in protest.

01:05:12.000 But I see F-Biden shirts or Let's Go Brandon was a lot.

01:05:18.000 There's nobody who's really motivated for Biden, just from what I've seen.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, what was the Let's Go Brandon stuff?

01:05:25.000 That blew up.

01:05:26.000 There was like a whole second wave of not even technically pro-Trump, but just anti-Biden stuff.

01:05:31.000 I tweeted about this the other day.

01:05:33.000 It's still kind of an anti-Trump sentiment.

01:05:36.000 I was pulling into a parking lot and I see a guy.

01:05:39.000 He's got a sticker on the back of his car that says Trump 2024.

01:05:42.000 My window was down, so I was almost going to say, yo, like, I see you, bro.

01:05:46.000 But I get closer.

01:05:47.000 It's Trump 20 to 24 years in prison.

01:05:48.000 Wow.

01:05:52.000 He faked you out.

01:05:52.000 I wish you had said something else.

01:05:54.000 Right!

01:05:54.000 Like, I know!

01:05:55.000 I don't like that guy.

01:05:57.000 I find that interesting because I've always lived in more liberal-leaning areas where if you like any kind of conservative or libertarian you tend to keep it to yourself.

01:06:07.000 But every once in a while you'll be somewhere and you'll see there's one house on the block that is like, I don't care, I'm putting up my political signs and they're typically 45 pro-Trump signs.

01:06:16.000 There's this one house that I pass in the area that'll have this flag of like Trump standing over eagles and like, you know, he's like, Just like a caricature, but there's no equivalent for Joe Biden.

01:06:27.000 There is maybe vote Joe Biden because you like the Democrats, but there's not this same sort of belief in his capabilities, in my opinion.

01:06:35.000 I think that's just because people voted for Joe Biden because they wanted to get Trump out.

01:06:39.000 He was the anti-Trump guy.

01:06:41.000 They weren't necessarily so gung-ho about Biden.

01:06:43.000 They just didn't like Trump that much that they would vote for Biden to get Trump out.

01:06:46.000 So they're not incentivized to wave the Biden flags or buy some Biden merch in the same way

01:06:52.000 that pro-Trump voters were.

01:06:54.000 They're definitely not super fans.

01:06:56.000 They're not like the Trump base, that's for sure.

01:06:58.000 Right, even like, I remember there was a lot of Obama merch back in the day.

01:07:01.000 He had mad hype.

01:07:02.000 Hillary Clinton, she had a bunch of stuff. 0.63

01:07:03.000 I'm with her.

01:07:04.000 I see her H's all everywhere. 1.00

01:07:06.000 But, I mean, Joe Biden's just never captured that attention any of the times he's run for president.

01:07:11.000 No, no way.

01:07:12.000 If you live in a neighborhood where people feel safe and comfortable to put up political signage

01:07:18.000 of different diverse views, consider yourself quite fortunate.

01:07:23.000 Coming from Portland, Oregon, if you expressed any type of dissenting views, your property would be highly likely subjected to violence or potentially even serious violence like arson or such.

01:07:39.000 Let me pull up the story real quick, just to put a pin in that.

01:07:41.000 We have this from the Post Millennial.

01:07:43.000 Leader in Richmond Democrat party group posted bomb threat against Andy Ngo Virginia Talk.

01:07:48.000 The post included an image of dynamite with Jarvis writing in the description box, on my way to the Andy Ngo event.

01:07:53.000 So you've experienced this stuff, I think everyone knows, directly covering the extremism.

01:07:57.000 Do you want to elaborate on what you're talking about?

01:08:00.000 Well, you know, because the left has cultural dominance and they face no censure, no social consequences for expressing radical and hateful extremist beliefs, they're able to push it further and further to the point where you can have somebody who's, I mean, we're not talking about somebody who's in Black Bloc, Antifa type of groups, this is somebody who's In a leadership role and then in the Richmond City Democratic Committee, which is the official party Democrat party group in Richmond, Virginia, feeling confident and fine to put this type of post publicly.

01:08:43.000 And in going back to what I was just saying a moment ago, those leftists who feel empowered to go and destroy people's properties because of their expressing a different political view.

01:08:53.000 So, you know, my heart is warm just to hear Claire just talk briefly about, you know, the different type of political science that she's seen in places she lives.

01:09:01.000 Don't take that for granted.

01:09:02.000 If you're an American who lives in one of those places, consider yourself lucky because there are places like Portland, Seattle, obviously different boroughs of New York where you are potentially put yourself and your family at risk for expressing a mainstream political view.

01:09:18.000 Well, and they had that guy whose biker neighbor went and lit his Trump sign on fire. 0.62

01:09:23.000 I mean, there are places that people do feel entitled to.

01:09:26.000 Well, they weren't neighbors, though.

01:09:29.000 I just meant that he biked in the area.

01:09:31.000 I think it's interesting.

01:09:35.000 One of the things that you're saying reminds me of in your book, you talked about how people, especially progressive groups, will travel to small towns and set up coffee shops or bookstores and sort of become very visible in that sense.

01:09:48.000 And that becomes sort of how they begin to have influence and control areas.

01:09:52.000 So there are times that people are expressing their views because they're relying on the tolerance and the community's ability to welcome them, even if they don't agree with them.

01:10:01.000 And then they become sort of a destructive force in and of themselves.

01:10:05.000 Oh yeah, yeah, we see this phenomenon all the time, people who adhere to a certain principle of tolerance and then the other side gains power and that is not reciprocated back onto them and they suffer as a result.

01:10:19.000 I mean, conservatives experience that a lot, right?

01:10:24.000 Welcome and protect all views of expression, but then you have those who are calling for an overturning of the entire system and a totalitarian system where people are subjected to violence, potentially or death for their views.

01:10:37.000 And I mean, I'm not saying that's manifested in real life necessarily anywhere in the US, but there's certain pockets where those type of sentiments are salient to a population and they're able to um cause so much violence and and destruction on those around them and and those in the victims just have no ability to counter um in so so i was speaking in richmond because richmond is a city that um has experienced uh over the years a really radical cultural shift to the left i think a lot of that has to do with the university there the virginia commonwealth university they had

01:11:17.000 Months of riots in 2020 like Portland and a lot of the same parallels between Portland and Virginia I documented and explored in the speech you have.

01:11:31.000 So elected local officials, the mayor, those on city council condoning the riots, even going out to some of those protests turned riots to participate and give them support.

01:11:45.000 You have police whose ability to actually enforce the law is curtailed by the local politicians and then you have outside agitators coming in and without a lot of money and it just creates, I mean, a lot of destabilization.

01:12:03.000 I think one of the questions I was asked when I spoke on Friday was, Like, could this happen again?

01:12:08.000 And I say, well, yes, obviously, because the networks that were strengthened and established in 2020 are not only still there, they're stronger now.

01:12:21.000 And there might be a bit of protest and riot fatigue today.

01:12:26.000 But just give it a bit of time, and there'll be some other George Floyd-type moment that's caught on video, clipped, exploited, and blasted on social media, and it'll get people to the streets.

01:12:39.000 Well, 2024 is around the corner.

01:12:41.000 It is about that time.

01:12:43.000 2020, BLM, George Floyd, election year.

01:12:44.000 2020 BLM George Floyd election year.

01:12:48.000 2024, this next summer.

01:12:51.000 But Richmond doesn't have any more monuments to pull down.

01:12:53.000 What are they gonna do?

01:12:55.000 It could be literally anywhere and the issue is the media lies.

01:12:59.000 So let's say, let's say something like this.

01:13:03.000 2024 and there's like some dude working in his garage in the suburbs of, I don't know, let's say Youngstown, Ohio.

01:13:11.000 He's in his garage.

01:13:12.000 And then some dude sneaks into his garage and, say, grabs a power tool case.

01:13:19.000 A couple hundred bucks.

01:13:20.000 And then runs for it.

01:13:22.000 And this guy's been known to the neighborhood.

01:13:24.000 So the dude calls the police.

01:13:26.000 The guy's neighbor confronts the guy and grabs him and stops him and they fight over the tool.

01:13:32.000 And then the dude who was stealing it, you know, falls down, hits his head and dies.

01:13:37.000 The media will report that two white men approached a man who was walking down the street, a black man, and they mercilessly beat him to death. 0.78

01:13:45.000 And then you'll get your riots.

01:13:46.000 And then a month later, the video will be released from their Ring security camera showing the guy robbing the house, and it'll be just like Ahmaud Arbery.

01:13:52.000 And they will find any story they can to create a racially charged atmosphere that will result in riots, and then they'll use that to claim racism or whatever, and then the people who are correctly calling out this story does not, you know, follow Did you guys see the story?

01:14:11.000 It was kind of inverse to that.

01:14:13.000 Of course it didn't get coverage because the victim was white, but I guess these two black dudes pulled up to a basketball court and they got into a fight with a white guy.

01:14:23.000 Black dude hits the white guy and white guy falls on his head, dies.

01:14:27.000 They went to trial, beat an involuntary manslaughter charge, and were only convicted of assault. 0.96

01:14:32.000 There you go. 0.98

01:14:32.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

01:14:33.000 Yeah, I saw that. 0.90

01:14:36.000 What's gonna happen with 2024 is they don't need there to be an actual instance of racism or violence.

01:14:43.000 The media will just make it up.

01:14:45.000 Garage pole rope?

01:14:47.000 It's a noose.

01:14:47.000 Well, Trump being the Republican nominee would.

01:14:51.000 Just that would get people out on the streets.

01:14:54.000 2015 and early 2016, that was such a powerful propaganda coup for Antifa because, you know,

01:15:02.000 before their messaging, extremist messaging comes out through their pamphlets and texts

01:15:07.000 and their blogs, which reaches a smaller audience, with Trump being the nominee at that time,

01:15:12.000 then now they have the entire liberal media establishment saying the exact same talking

01:15:18.000 points, America might elect a fascist, and then after the election, America did elect

01:15:23.000 a fascist, death camps are around the corner, mass deportations around the corner, I mean

01:15:27.000 this sounds crazy as I say it now, but look back on the opinion pieces and headlines that

01:15:32.000 were published in the papers or records, those were the type of sentiments that they were 0.99

01:15:36.000 putting out, it brainwashed a lot of useful idiots on the left to go out and be much more 0.99

01:15:44.000 accepting of political violence on their side. 1.00

01:15:47.000 Bye.

01:15:49.000 I don't know why or how this happened, but I feel like amongst my generation and the younger generations coming up, political violence and vitriol is just so high.

01:15:58.000 And it really rubs me the wrong way to see that people aren't even accepting of just opposing beliefs.

01:16:05.000 It's either my way or the highway. 0.98

01:16:06.000 You're evil. 1.00

01:16:07.000 If you're evil, I can go after you and hurt you because I am the good guy. 1.00

01:16:11.000 I want to highlight this. 0.97

01:16:12.000 I saw this from Jack Posobiec, but I just verified the articles.

01:16:17.000 Here's an article from Slate, November 19th, 2015.

01:16:20.000 Donald Trump is actually a moderate Republican.

01:16:23.000 That's why he's winning.

01:16:24.000 November 19th, 2015. 0.98

01:16:27.000 And then, on November 25th, 2015, Donald Trump is a fascist. 0.98

01:16:32.000 Now hold on! 0.89

01:16:33.000 The original article.

01:16:35.000 Donald Trump is a moderate, written by Jamel Bowie, and the second article, written by Jamel Bowie. 0.97

01:16:41.000 The same dude, a week later, he wrote Trump is a moderate, that's why he's winning, then he wrote Trump is a fascist. 0.94

01:16:46.000 Why? 1.00

01:16:47.000 They are evil. 0.99

01:16:49.000 There's no legitimate reason why a sane person would say, I'm gonna write an article calling Trump a moderate, and then a week later be like, I'm gonna write an article, oh no, oh I just discovered he's actually a fascist.

01:16:59.000 No, what happened was, everybody was going after Trump, So this person probably thought, if I write that he's a moderate, I bet I get a ton of traffic from people who are gonna be like, what, what do you mean, how, how, how?

01:17:11.000 And then a week later, okay, been there, done that, I'm gonna write Trump's a fascist and get a million more views.

01:17:16.000 Welcome to the media. 0.91

01:17:18.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

01:17:19.000 It's part of the clickbait.

01:17:20.000 They need you to be so shocked by the things they're saying and these points that they're putting out there.

01:17:27.000 I find the hysteria around Donald Trump to be completely personality based.

01:17:30.000 I bet most people can't really distinguish anything about his political platforms.

01:17:34.000 I should clarify.

01:17:35.000 Most people who are identifying as progressive journalists, they don't know the nuances of differences between Republicans.

01:17:42.000 They just know that Trump does things they don't like and they don't like him the most.

01:17:46.000 And so therefore, whatever they have to say to make him the bad guy.

01:17:48.000 It is weird.

01:17:50.000 There are times when you'll see sort of more left-leaning outlets almost praise other Republicans to make Donald Trump look bad when there's sort of no informed opinion other than they aren't Trump.

01:18:02.000 So therefore, whatever they're doing is OK.

01:18:05.000 But this type of disinfluence that causes hysteria and panic is so dangerous.

01:18:10.000 I mean, when you ingrain into, let's say, 50% of the population that this Republican frontrunner is a fascist, then that label then is applied, obviously, to people who would vote for him and those who support for him.

01:18:27.000 And then what do good moral people do against fascists?

01:18:30.000 Well, we want to bash them.

01:18:32.000 And it normalizes that type of acceptance of political violence.

01:18:35.000 I'm speaking, unfortunately, as somebody who's been a victim of the violence of Antifa because of these labels that have been applied to me.

01:18:41.000 And then, I mean, with the event that I just spoke at in Richmond, the script that was going out to these different venues that canceled and took the third venue for me to actually be able to speak, People would just call in and say things like, you have a neo-nazi who's speaking, there are armed neo-nazis who are coming, this event goes forward, people could actually die.

01:19:02.000 And people in corporate PRs would just freak out, they're like, okay, well, they'll cancel it.

01:19:07.000 And that's the danger, I think, of, you know, we can laugh at this and look back, and because I think we're, all of us here at Sustainable are grounded.

01:19:14.000 But there are actually so many people, even highly educated, perhaps it's the most educated, who are vulnerable to this type of hysteria and disinfo.

01:19:22.000 But I, you know, I take it so seriously and I'm so angry at how sloppily people use these labels of like fascist and like dictator and all these type of terms as if it's like okay to just throw it around.

01:19:41.000 Apparently now, you know, people just do that with like reckless abandon and it's like you, you know, people who Instill that into their beliefs, like actually take up weapons and like maim and like kill people on that belief.

01:19:56.000 That happened in Portland with a self-described AMT phone number who shot dead a Trump supporter because he really thought this guy was this white supremacist fascist, just murdered him in downtown. 0.86

01:20:07.000 Yep.

01:20:09.000 You were saying before that you felt like the younger generations are sort of fueled by this political divisiveness so they won't listen to other people and it makes sense because they're completely surrounded by it.

01:20:19.000 There's no escape and there's no accuracy in reporting.

01:20:21.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:20:23.000 That's true.

01:20:25.000 I always wonder if there is going to be a reckoning at what point, you know, we had, I can't remember who it was, maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene on a couple, a year ago or so, and someone who was at the table said, oh, I'd actually never listened to anything but random clips of you and hearing you talk, it definitely changed my opinion or it gave me an insight.

01:20:45.000 And I find this really interesting because I think there are so many people who aren't exposed to anyone but other people who are similarly afraid of these labels of fascists and, you know, anyone who's brushed by these words are obviously out to get them.

01:20:59.000 And so there is a natural It almost makes sense.

01:21:02.000 Resistance to it.

01:21:03.000 You don't want to be affiliated with them.

01:21:04.000 But you're completely right.

01:21:06.000 If the labels are misused, then their fear and their willingness to maybe react violently is based on inaccurate information.

01:21:15.000 During the Trump years, I would always try to reach out to the other aisle just because it was like, uh, it was, it was a hot topic, you know, and I would always hear from people, wow, you're actually the first Trump supporter I've talked to, which is crazy because how have you ignored half of the country?

01:21:30.000 You, you've just been so tight knit in your bubble that you haven't even thought of, you know what, let me check out the other side.

01:21:37.000 I used to be a Democrat back in the day, and then when I was coming of voting age, I said to myself, I'm going to make an informed decision.

01:21:45.000 I will check out both the right and the left, and I just found that the right made more sense to me, and I wish more people would do that.

01:21:50.000 What made you want to do that, though?

01:21:51.000 Because I think it is unusual.

01:21:52.000 I think young people tend to be like, oh, this is how my family votes, this is how my friends vote.

01:21:56.000 The thing that made me want to do that was Intro to Logic.

01:21:59.000 I took that my first year in college, and I learned how to critically think, and this was also around the time where BLM First Wave was popping off, and I didn't like how they kind of wanted to make black people the victim so much, so that was rubbing me the wrong way, and then I took Intro to Logic, and I said, let me think objectively rather than subjectively, let me go outside of my bubble, let me see what's on both sides, and then the right made more sense for me.

01:22:23.000 Yeah, I think people don't want to be outside their bubble, I think.

01:22:26.000 And conservatives are guilty of this, too, that we shouldn't, you know, pretend otherwise.

01:22:30.000 But some people just want to be told the way they see the world is completely correct.

01:22:34.000 They want to have all their biases confirmed, always.

01:22:37.000 But I think what's really dividing the left and the right in the culture war is no longer politics.

01:22:43.000 I think it's obvious to anybody who's been watching a show like this for a long time.

01:22:46.000 It is simply, are you someone who is an independently minded person, or are you someone who is terrified of being shunned?

01:22:54.000 Democrats basically just march in lockstep with whatever acceptable opinion is, whatever popular thing currently is.

01:23:00.000 And it changes, and catches people off guard, and they get yelled at, and they apologize, and they freak out.

01:23:05.000 The reason why they'll get so irrationally angry at the idea of you defending Donald Trump is because they know.

01:23:10.000 You know, you're right.

01:23:12.000 When the media lies about Donald Trump and then you say, well, you know, Trump never did that, they'll start yelling at you.

01:23:17.000 Why are you defending him?

01:23:17.000 Why?

01:23:18.000 The reason they're getting angry is because they're like, uh-oh, I'm going to get ostracized.

01:23:22.000 I will get targeted if you keep talking like this.

01:23:24.000 I've got to show that I'm against him.

01:23:26.000 I'm not one of you.

01:23:27.000 It's like they realize what they've been doing for so long and they realize they can turn against him, you know?

01:23:32.000 It's like when David Hogg said he was going to keep wearing masks even though they got rid of the mandates because he didn't want someone to think he was a Republican.

01:23:39.000 They are so terrified of being the outgroup.

01:23:41.000 So what happens is, it doesn't matter if you're pro-life, pro-choice.

01:23:46.000 It matters are you in the cult or not.

01:23:49.000 You can be in the cult and you can be someone like, you know, Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, or Joe Walsh.

01:23:54.000 They are obvious cult members.

01:23:56.000 It's the funniest thing to see Democrats have a high approval rating for George W. Bush.

01:24:00.000 So long as you are part of the machine cult, the cathedral, you know, there you go. 0.81

01:24:05.000 Do you guys think people on the right are, um...

01:24:10.000 A bit too loose in their accusations of their political opponents of being communists and socialists?

01:24:17.000 Nope.

01:24:18.000 You don't?

01:24:18.000 Nope.

01:24:19.000 Why?

01:24:20.000 So there's, as we've been talking about this quite a bit over the past couple weeks, the banality of evil and malicious evil.

01:24:26.000 Or, you know, as I go even further, say abject evil.

01:24:28.000 So how did the Nazis, how were they able to pull off what they pulled off? 0.92

01:24:33.000 Where did we hear this?

01:24:33.000 I think someone was talking about it here on the show, maybe.

01:24:36.000 That there was a group of regular guys that were conscripted in World War II and when they became police officers and when they were ordered to just start, you know, gunning down and rounding up the Jewish people for the concentration camps, without question they just did as they were told.

01:24:49.000 Michael Malice often says that there is, I don't know, I can't say the exact quote, I'll paraphrase, but something to the effect of, there is no crime so egregious that police would not Carry it out if ordered to up to and including the murder of children.

01:25:05.000 I certainly think that would be the case if they were instructed to do so as we saw in Lahaina when we have all these missing children and people are saying that they were in the cars trapped and the police were blocking the exit to Lahaina so that people were trapped in the road and they were burning to death.

01:25:21.000 And then some of these people jumped out of their cars and jumped into the water while the cops held the road closed because they don't care.

01:25:28.000 Did those officers wake up and decide that they were gonna go murder a bunch of people?

01:25:32.000 Of course not. 1.00

01:25:33.000 They were stupid people who did not care for the responsibilities of their job, who were told, don't let anyone leave town. 1.00

01:25:41.000 Not explicitly, but they said, shut this road down. 1.00

01:25:43.000 And they went, you got it.

01:25:45.000 And so while the fires were burning people to death, they were cops like, don't care.

01:25:49.000 So when it comes to the accusations of the right, on the left- From the right.

01:25:53.000 Yeah, from the right, about the left, then, that's what I meant by on the right, they're making these accusations.

01:26:01.000 I don't think it's incorrect to say that they're communists.

01:26:04.000 Did every single communist in the Soviet Union who supported the system or participated in it know that they were communists?

01:26:10.000 Did they read literature on Marx?

01:26:12.000 Or were they just doing as they were told?

01:26:14.000 They were just doing theirs.

01:26:15.000 They were told it was the commonplace ignorance that led to these evil actions.

01:26:19.000 So you have high profile individuals like people in the Fulton County DA's office charging Donald Trump. 0.98

01:26:25.000 They're evil.

01:26:26.000 You have the people in New York City that are filing these lawsuits falsely accusing Trump of things.

01:26:31.000 Or trying to charge him on these B.S.

01:26:34.000 charges.

01:26:34.000 You've got the documents case against him.

01:26:36.000 All of this is complete garbage nonsense. 0.98

01:26:39.000 You have the Democrats who, in 2016, claimed falsely that Russia manipulated the election to help Donald Trump win, and Trump was illegitimate. 1.00

01:26:45.000 Then 2020 comes around, and when the opponents of Biden start saying similar things about fraud, they say, you're all crazy psychopaths, etc., etc. 0.98

01:26:53.000 They are a combination of all things evil. 0.88

01:26:57.000 Powerful interests at the top who say things like, can't we just drone this guy?

01:27:01.000 In reference to Julian Assange in London. 0.99

01:27:04.000 Hillary Clinton is evil. 1.00

01:27:06.000 But then you have the blind, ignorant followers. 0.99

01:27:09.000 So if you have high profile activists who raise hundreds of millions of dollars who say that they are Marxists, explicitly, that's Black Lives Matter, and then you have people marching in the street throwing up the red salute in support of overt communism, They're communists! 0.96

01:27:23.000 They don't have to sit there and put their hand on the Bible of Marx, Das Kapital, and things like that.

01:27:30.000 They just need to be cogs in the machine that actively support the issue of communism.

01:27:35.000 And then you have people breaking free from that, saying, I don't want to be involved.

01:27:39.000 And that's fine, they can.

01:27:40.000 But for the time being, if BLM is coming out saying they're trained Marxists, and then I see videos of millennials and Gen Z doing the Red Salute, Oh, bro, they're communists!

01:27:52.000 Like, if you saw a 17-year-old kid marching around, goose-stepping, and doing a Roman salute, you'd be like, he's a Nazi.

01:27:58.000 Oh, wow, hold on!

01:28:00.000 Did he actually read Mein Kampf?

01:28:01.000 Does he actually?

01:28:02.000 No, come on, dude!

01:28:04.000 We don't play those games.

01:28:05.000 So the issue now is, high-profile activists to the tunes of millions of dollars buying property, having The slogans so ubiquitous that Amazon and Walmart use them.

01:28:18.000 Like, okay, yeah, they're in the style of Chinese communism.

01:28:22.000 They're authoritarian.

01:28:24.000 Call them whatever you want.

01:28:25.000 They adhere to some kind of Marxist ideology.

01:28:30.000 As a means of manipulating.

01:28:31.000 I think it's probably better to call them neo-fascist or something like this.

01:28:34.000 A lot of people call them neo-marxist.

01:28:36.000 But I'm like, I don't think they actually believe what Marx believed. 1.00

01:28:39.000 They're using Marxist ideas to manipulate stupid people into being controlled. 0.99

01:28:44.000 So it's something else. 1.00

01:28:45.000 Neo-fascistic maybe, whatever.

01:28:47.000 But call them whatever you want to call them.

01:28:50.000 Marxist, communists, it applies to all of them.

01:28:55.000 Yeah.

01:28:55.000 And you can wake up one day and be like, oh, that was bad that I was doing that.

01:28:58.000 There was a guy who I retweeted a while ago.

01:29:01.000 He was a doctor and he tweeted that he was completely wrong about the lockdowns and he apologizes the day it was bad and he regrets where he was.

01:29:07.000 And I'm like, see, there you go.

01:29:09.000 You know, somebody who says, whoa, I can't believe what I was doing.

01:29:11.000 Yeah.

01:29:12.000 And you can only really do that in one direction.

01:29:13.000 You can't do it from the left going to the right.

01:29:15.000 You can't really do it from the right going to the left.

01:29:17.000 I don't think the left would just never have you.

01:29:19.000 No, they do.

01:29:20.000 They have their... I think it's all fake.

01:29:23.000 The people were like, you know, I was a Trump supporter, and then I realized they were lying.

01:29:26.000 No, you didn't.

01:29:27.000 That's a lie.

01:29:27.000 That's not true.

01:29:28.000 Because the far right, as defined by the media and the establishment, includes libertarians who hate Donald Trump.

01:29:35.000 So it's like somebody who was, you know, I'm sure there are people who have been blue-pilled, who have been manipulated and tricked into believing lies from the machine, but you have to be really insane or really broken to read facts about how the media lied, which brings you to Donald Trump, and then be like, yeah, but then I started reading more of NBC News and really just decided not to fact-check it.

01:30:02.000 It's like that simple.

01:30:04.000 I'll give you an example.

01:30:05.000 Burisma is the best example, especially with everything that's going on.

01:30:08.000 There's no circumstance in which you can unlearn the Burisma scandal. 0.99

01:30:12.000 And if you go and say, I don't support Trump, you know, Biden's the guy for me.

01:30:17.000 Go into a circle of Democrats and say, oh yeah, but you know about Victor Shokin, right?

01:30:20.000 When he signed the sworn affidavit saying Biden got him fired. 0.95

01:30:23.000 They're going to be like, you're a Nazi.

01:30:24.000 You're far right. 0.87

01:30:25.000 Get out.

01:30:26.000 Yeah.

01:30:26.000 I forget who it was that you were talking to.

01:30:28.000 You read up on the show about that and they knew nothing about it.

01:30:30.000 I can't remember who it was now.

01:30:31.000 Well, that's Breonna Woo.

01:30:32.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:30:33.000 That's right.

01:30:33.000 It was Hunter Avalon.

01:30:35.000 They have no idea this stuff happened or they're lying and saying they didn't know that it happened.

01:30:39.000 But the reality is the people who are like, you know, I was a Trump supporter and now I'm not.

01:30:43.000 OK, maybe you are a Trump supporter because you were living under a rock and your neighbor said he was voting for Trump.

01:30:47.000 So you said, sure, but you're certainly not someone who pays attention.

01:30:51.000 What's your take?

01:30:52.000 Do you think that people are inaccurate when they criticize the left as being communist?

01:30:57.000 Um, well, if Tim is specifically talking about the militant activists who use those symbols that are associated with communism, well, clearly those are apt labels for them.

01:31:10.000 I just, you know, I cringe often when I just, when I see people on the right very kind of loosely just calling random, large swaths of the political opposition, just, you know, they're all, these are just all communists.

01:31:24.000 We're using the term fascists as well.

01:31:26.000 It's just, one's true and one's not.

01:31:29.000 Language is so important and meaning in the definitions of words is important.

01:31:35.000 I just you know, I think playing the same game of what the left

01:31:41.000 does of just you know, their disregard of how they who they call fascist or who they call far right, whatever.

01:31:48.000 I think the right should be very careful not to mirror that in

01:31:52.000 the same way.

01:31:52.000 Unfortunately, maybe that I think that's so that boat has already sailed.

01:31:55.000 But why shouldn't they mirror it?

01:31:57.000 Are you implying that they're only saying it because it was said of them?

01:32:00.000 Thank you.

01:32:01.000 Bye-bye.

01:32:03.000 Yes, and it's about sort of, like, just this rhetorical claim of, like, okay, you call us, you know, you're so loose with the word fascist on our side, we're just gonna call all of you communists.

01:32:14.000 But that's not what's happening.

01:32:16.000 It is a fact that they're communists.

01:32:18.000 It is not a fact... Some of them.

01:32:20.000 But they, but, right, so you're defining communists as someone who is a learned red communist as opposed to the banality of communism.

01:32:26.000 Not even necessarily learn it.

01:32:27.000 They could just... I mean, somebody who just finds appeal in the basic tenets of communism.

01:32:31.000 Like, if a guy puts on a black hoodie and runs around with Antifa smashing things, is he a communist?

01:32:38.000 Not necessarily.

01:32:39.000 He might identify as a militant anarchist.

01:32:42.000 That's a big part of the Antifa ideology.

01:32:44.000 But that's not anarchy.

01:32:45.000 Anarchy meaning without authority, right?

01:32:46.000 So they can call themselves whatever they want.

01:32:47.000 I don't care.

01:32:48.000 That's not true.

01:32:49.000 Anarchists are not violent.

01:32:52.000 Right?

01:32:54.000 Well, there are examples in 20th century European history of anarchist ideologues who've carried out assassinations and other types of violence.

01:33:06.000 So I would argue the core of the phrase, without authority, would displace a person from the use of violence, and someone who wants to claim they're an anarchist, who then engages in, say, throwing dynamite in a market or something like that, they're not an anarchist!

01:33:22.000 That's an authoritarian action.

01:33:24.000 Anarchy is quite literally the word, and without archi-authority.

01:33:28.000 Anybody who believes that there is no authority of the system, one could make the philosophical argument that they're trying to strip authority from the system, that's why they're an anarchist.

01:33:37.000 That's not correct, and Most anarchist philosophy.

01:33:41.000 That's why you'll find among libertarians and what people refer to as right anarchists, the non-aggression principle.

01:33:46.000 If you use violence against another person, it's an assertion of your authority over them, which defies itself.

01:33:52.000 What is actually happening is if you look at the anarchist communities, they have inherently tanky authoritarian views on how to run society.

01:34:00.000 Then they just say, but I'm an anarchist.

01:34:02.000 Sure. 1.00

01:34:03.000 Like, dude, just because you're stupid doesn't mean you're not a communist. 1.00

01:34:06.000 If they believe Marxist ideology, utilize that ideology and utilize violence to that end, they're not anarchists. 1.00

01:34:13.000 They are someone who believes in an authority, believes in a system, believes that it should be done the way they want it done, and that they are the ones who have the right to use cause of death to get that.

01:34:26.000 That's not anarchy!

01:34:27.000 So, this is the issue that we've always had going back to Occupy Wall Street, when these dudes would dress up in all black, and people would call them the anarchists and stuff.

01:34:35.000 And we would colloquially say it sometimes, but being friends with a bunch of anarchists, especially with, like, Ron Paul Revolution only a few years before, we were like, that's not anarchy!

01:34:46.000 Running around smashing windows and beating people up because they don't agree with you is quite literally what anarchists are opposed to.

01:34:53.000 When you argue that the police, for instance, were doing something wrong and they were abusing people, or saying the street was frozen, you couldn't go there.

01:35:00.000 It was an arbitrary exercise of authority over people that was ill-gotten.

01:35:04.000 It was false.

01:35:06.000 When people started putting on hoodies and masks, a uniform, going around saying, do what we say or we will physically strike you, I was like, identical to the police. 1.00

01:35:14.000 And they would go, that's so stupid. 0.99

01:35:16.000 We are not. 1.00

01:35:17.000 I'm like, bro, two guys who are part of groups that dress the same and assert their authority, whether it's warranted or not.

01:35:25.000 But this is just the no true Scotsman argument.

01:35:28.000 No, it's not.

01:35:31.000 If someone comes to you and says they're a thing, does it mean they are a thing?

01:35:35.000 No, it does not.

01:35:37.000 Words define things.

01:35:39.000 So if someone comes to you and they're clearly a white, blonde guy and they say, actually, I'm a black guy from Nigeria, you're going to be like, you are actually a white guy.

01:35:47.000 Within political philosophies, if there is a faction that identifies within this larger political ideology and they carry out actions in the name of this ideology, I don't think we should necessarily just say, well, they're not acting truly for this particular cause.

01:36:09.000 There are a lot of women's rights activists who actually really disagree with the work I do, because I particularly talk about how a lot of these women's rights events, it's Antifa, Trantifa, communists and socialists and violent far left coming up to attack these women who are speaking out about trans ideology.

01:36:29.000 Well, a lot of these women who are speaking out are old school leftists who say, no, no, no, no, these people, They're not leftist. 0.59

01:36:35.000 They're not on our side.

01:36:36.000 They have nothing to do with us.

01:36:38.000 They're regressive.

01:36:39.000 They're not on the same side as us.

01:36:42.000 And I think that type of denial, it's not reflective of the reality that The on-the-ground manifestation of political philosophy does change over time.

01:36:57.000 You're not going to have necessarily a peer manifestation every time, but it's still part of that.

01:37:01.000 I think within the wider anarchist community, anarchists need to start asking themselves a bit more if they're not doing already.

01:37:10.000 Why are some of the most prominent anarchists we see doing the direct action on the street are the militant Antifa?

01:37:16.000 Because they're not anarchists.

01:37:19.000 Your position comes from the, if a person declares themselves to be, they are.

01:37:23.000 I disagree.

01:37:24.000 If a communist came out and said, don't worry, I'm not a communist, am I going to be like, well, hold on guys, they're not a communist.

01:37:30.000 He's wearing a blue jumpsuit with a little commie hat on, holding Das Kapital and waving a communist flag.

01:37:37.000 I am not a communist.

01:37:38.000 I say, okay, he's not.

01:37:40.000 He said he's not, so he's not.

01:37:42.000 Right?

01:37:42.000 That's illogical.

01:37:44.000 Well, that's not what I'm saying.

01:37:48.000 People can cherry-pick whatever aspects of different texts or historical figures who may represent that political ideology and draw inspiration from it and say that they're part of a longer tradition.

01:38:07.000 No, I just get frustrated when there's like a... So the issue right now is... Not recognizing a problem on one own side, which I see the left does a whole lot.

01:38:15.000 But the right is not wrong to call them communists.

01:38:18.000 So libertarians, conservatives, evangelicals, post-liberals, non-politically affiliated people comprise the far right.

01:38:27.000 All of those people I just described, this disparate group of people who completely disagree with each other and will actually yell at each other in arguments, are called one group fascists.

01:38:35.000 All of them.

01:38:37.000 That's nonsensical and incorrect.

01:38:40.000 You get a libertarian, you get Dave Smith in here, and he will tell you why he does not like Donald Trump.

01:38:45.000 But the media and the Democrats will still claim he's a Trump supporter.

01:38:49.000 There was a famous moment where he was on Fox News and they were like, you know, with Donald Trump, and he's like, I don't care, I don't like Donald Trump, he's a libertarian. 0.93

01:38:55.000 They can't differentiate, everyone's a fascist.

01:38:58.000 Meanwhile, the bulk, and actually there was a data point we brought up a couple years ago, It showed the cluster of political affiliation, a voting bloc based on social and economic views.

01:39:12.000 So, it was a two-dimensional grid, or yeah, two-dimensional is a square, mapping out where you stand socially, socially progressive or conservative, and economically progressive or conservative.

01:39:27.000 Trump's voting base was spread all the way across the economic spectrum, but more socially conservative, and the entire Democrat voting base was clustered in one tight-packed corner of socially and economically progressive.

01:39:41.000 They all exist mostly in the same space.

01:39:43.000 So we say, typically, they tend to be communists.

01:39:47.000 I don't care what they call themselves.

01:39:48.000 I'm identifying them.

01:39:49.000 I don't care what they say.

01:39:51.000 They say, we believe in Marxist ideas.

01:39:53.000 We believe in critical race theory, critical gender theory.

01:39:56.000 We believe in critical class theory.

01:39:58.000 And I'm like, okay, these are communist ideas.

01:40:00.000 They then say they want massive multinational corporations and centralized authoritarian power from the government to start arresting and locking up their political opponents while they celebrate and clap for it.

01:40:11.000 You then have more militant factions like Antifa, etc., who will privately say, or on a personal level, they'll say, well, I don't like Joe Biden or the machine either, but I will fight on their behalf.

01:40:22.000 For example, when Trump supporters were outside of a hospital protesting masks, Antifa showed up and beat the crap out of them.

01:40:28.000 Why are they defending a government decree? 0.98

01:40:31.000 Because they're communists.

01:40:33.000 They support the government doing what it wants under this leftist ethos of class, gender, and race oppression.

01:40:40.000 That's the bulk of the voting base in it graphed out and before us.

01:40:46.000 They then call all of us fascists despite the fact that libertarians and fascists are arguing with each other. 0.97

01:40:52.000 So you can't just look at and be like it is stupid that the right calls the left communist because the left calls the right fascist, but that's not what's happening. 0.97

01:41:00.000 It is one side is evil, one side is not evil. 0.99

01:41:04.000 Why?

01:41:04.000 I'm not saying people on the right are good.

01:41:06.000 I'm saying whatever the right is, it's a disparate group of people.

01:41:10.000 It is various different ideologies and factions having a discussion on why wokeness and the

01:41:15.000 establishment machine is bad and calling out the lies from the mainstream media.

01:41:20.000 The left overwhelmingly marches in lockstep with whatever the lie happens to be, even

01:41:26.000 though it changes from time to time, sometimes as quickly as a day.

01:41:31.000 Womikson, women with an X, was the unoffensive thing, and then a day later it was offensive 1.00

01:41:35.000 because it was exclusionary.

01:41:37.000 This is why they can't define words like woman.

01:41:40.000 There is nothing to it.

01:41:42.000 And this is a really great example of it.

01:41:43.000 You can find people who are pro-life, pro-progressive tax.

01:41:46.000 You can find people like Jimmy Dore who want universal healthcare, but they're right-wing or fascist.

01:41:51.000 That makes no sense.

01:41:53.000 So that's clearly a false determination.

01:41:55.000 But then you can look at the, at the left and not a single one of them defines the word woman.

01:42:00.000 And if they do, they use some nonsensical, like we had Lance on the show.

01:42:03.000 He said, woman is an adult human female and trans women are female.

01:42:06.000 It's like, okay, you see, there's no logic there.

01:42:09.000 They're marching in lockstep, but we got to go to super chats.

01:42:12.000 So we can, we can, we'll carry on that conversation or whatever my, my diatribe in the members only section, but we'll read super chats for now and hear what y'all have to say.

01:42:22.000 Cause I'm sure everybody's super chatting saying I'm wrong.

01:42:25.000 Which is always welcome.

01:42:26.000 So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com.

01:42:30.000 We're gonna have that members-only show coming up in about 20 minutes, but for now we will read what y'all have to say.

01:42:34.000 It's always welcome, but you could skip their super chats.

01:42:38.000 We have Burtman who says, Palmdale, come back to me.

01:42:42.000 That's Chris Bourbon, our writer.

01:42:44.000 6-6-1 in the building.

01:42:44.000 Let's go!

01:42:45.000 He got the first check, congratulations.

01:42:47.000 Yeah.

01:42:48.000 I'm not your buddy guy says, I love how Trudeau just blamed Russian propaganda for our Senate, giving multiple standing ovations to an actual Nazi who was part of the SS.

01:42:57.000 Wow.

01:42:58.000 Yep.

01:42:58.000 Trudeau says, don't look or question me when I do it.

01:43:02.000 Yeah, rules for the...

01:43:03.000 Waffle Sensei says, I really wish Rumble would have literally said pound sand tyrants in their letter back to the UK government.

01:43:09.000 Missed opportunity.

01:43:11.000 Oh, I think they did.

01:43:12.000 I think they did.

01:43:12.000 Right.

01:43:13.000 You know, it was it was polite.

01:43:14.000 It was a plight.

01:43:16.000 I'm sure Rumble doesn't want to burn bridges.

01:43:18.000 You know, it's it's one thing if they're being aggressive later, but it doesn't want to potentially be shut out completely.

01:43:25.000 Shane Wilder says, watch the presser from Eagle Pass today.

01:43:28.000 I think Rep.

01:43:29.000 Tony Gonzalez was spot on when he said, quote, we have to stop waiting on President Biden to solve this issue.

01:43:34.000 Now to see if the Republican can do it.

01:43:37.000 Look, I think Biden's not solving the issue.

01:43:40.000 This is part of the plan.

01:43:43.000 There's a video of CBP, I believe it's CBP, opening a gate at the border and letting people in and counting them.

01:43:50.000 They are being instructed to open the border.

01:43:53.000 That's it.

01:43:54.000 So anybody acting like, you know, why won't they get the job done?

01:43:57.000 Because this is their plan.

01:44:01.000 That's it.

01:44:03.000 Carry on.

01:44:04.000 OMG Puppy says, with Rumble, this is someone demonstrating their power.

01:44:08.000 Someone like MI6, they won't accept losing.

01:44:12.000 I think it seems fairly routine, to be honest.

01:44:15.000 Like, oh hey, we got an upstart big tech, upstart social media company that's got a high profile celebrity who's speaking out against the Ukraine war.

01:44:22.000 Shut him down.

01:44:25.000 There you go.

01:44:27.000 Bear in mind says, I miss seeing you in my notifications.

01:44:30.000 That's right.

01:44:31.000 Yep.

01:44:31.000 I didn't see one today.

01:44:32.000 Yep.

01:44:33.000 No notifications pop up.

01:44:34.000 If you, if you like the show, that's why I say share the show because probably the only reason the show still exists is because you guys share it.

01:44:41.000 Did people used to get notifications or was it from the beginning people?

01:44:44.000 Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:44:45.000 It's been happening this week, but today no notification at all on my phone.

01:44:49.000 It depends too.

01:44:49.000 Cause you don't appear on the trending channel or trending page, but you should, right?

01:44:53.000 Oh, that's the funny thing too.

01:44:54.000 When we put out the song Only Ever Wanted on Timcast Music, we were trending on YouTube.

01:45:00.000 I think we were trending in the top 10 or something like that.

01:45:02.000 And then, or maybe it was top 20.

01:45:04.000 And then we put out the song Genocide.

01:45:05.000 Once again, we were trending.

01:45:06.000 And I was like, look at that, like our song right next to like Post Malone.

01:45:09.000 That's crazy.

01:45:10.000 But we were getting substantially less views.

01:45:13.000 We got a couple hundred thousand views and we were trending.

01:45:16.000 And I'm like, Timcast IRL should be trending every single night.

01:45:19.000 Yeah.

01:45:20.000 We get a couple hundred thousand views in like an hour or two hours.

01:45:22.000 Yeah, based on those numbers.

01:45:24.000 Yep.

01:45:25.000 Nope.

01:45:25.000 There's no real explanation for it.

01:45:26.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:45:30.000 I'm sure their argument is if they allowed Timcast IRL to behave normally in the trend section, the same as every video, every night Timcast would be a trending video, which would exponentially increase the amount of viewers we get, the amount of subscribers we get, and then we'd be bigger than Mr. Beast.

01:45:47.000 They do not want that to happen.

01:45:49.000 So they suppress.

01:45:50.000 That's it.

01:45:51.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:45:53.000 But if every single person who watched every single time shared this show, then we would be bigger.

01:45:57.000 It'd take a lot of work and, uh, you know, it is what it is.

01:46:01.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:46:02.000 We got Dallas Smith says, Yo, Andy, good to see you doing well.

01:46:05.000 I had fun working as your security during the Portland riots.

01:46:07.000 Let me know if you need me again when you're in town.

01:46:09.000 God bless.

01:46:13.000 What was the username for that?

01:46:14.000 Dallas Smith.

01:46:14.000 Huh.

01:46:15.000 No?

01:46:15.000 Doesn't ring a bell?

01:46:16.000 You have to go back through your emails and see if you have a connection.

01:46:19.000 It's cool that people who work security for you, you know, follow your work actually.

01:46:24.000 Yeah.

01:46:24.000 It's not just a job for them.

01:46:25.000 They really like you.

01:46:26.000 There have been some kind people who volunteered their time because, you know, private security is really expensive and back then.

01:46:32.000 Yeah.

01:46:34.000 Yeah.

01:46:35.000 That's cool.

01:46:37.000 All right, what do we got?

01:46:38.000 We got, uh, S.A.

01:46:40.000 Federale says, this is the best podcast in history, but every single time Tim refers to Quad City style pizza as Chicago style pizza, he appropriates my culture.

01:46:50.000 The west side of Illinois is the best side of Illinois.

01:46:52.000 I am not saying you don't have the same kind of pizza.

01:46:55.000 I'm saying real Chicago pizza is not deep dish.

01:46:59.000 In Chicago, we eat Quad City style pizza.

01:47:02.000 There you have it.

01:47:03.000 That's my point.

01:47:04.000 People go to Chicago and they're like, I want Chicago pizza, and they're like, right this way to the circus.

01:47:09.000 They bring you to a pizza place people from Chicago don't go to.

01:47:12.000 You're saying Deep Dish Pizza is a tourist trap?

01:47:14.000 Yeah, it's great.

01:47:15.000 You know, uh, Luminati's is really, really good.

01:47:17.000 We used to have a place, I don't know if it still exists, called Leona's.

01:47:20.000 And that was really awesome because they had, like, a cornbread crust deep dish.

01:47:23.000 Awesome.

01:47:24.000 Woah.

01:47:25.000 Yeah, it was really good.

01:47:26.000 Really good.

01:47:26.000 Yeah, uh, crumbly and delicious.

01:47:28.000 And, uh, Giordano's, of course, is very famous.

01:47:31.000 Everybody orders this stuff.

01:47:32.000 There's, uh, Uno's.

01:47:34.000 But, uh, if you are a... If you grew up in Chicago with a neighborhood pizza place, it was, like, a flatbread, square-cut pizza.

01:47:45.000 Is this like, I don't know if this is true or not, but people who are from Chicago, like really from Chicago like the White Sox, but then people who moved to Chicago like the Cubs?

01:47:54.000 I don't know.

01:47:54.000 In my experience, if you're on the north side, you're a Cubs fan.

01:47:56.000 If you're on the south side, you're a Sox fan.

01:47:57.000 Okay, it's regional.

01:47:58.000 I don't know anything about the Cubs, to be honest.

01:48:00.000 It was like, yeah, it's a crosstown classic.

01:48:02.000 It's the, you know, north-south rivalry.

01:48:04.000 It was like, you know, everyone's like, you're on the south side, so you're supposed to be Cubs fans.

01:48:08.000 I'm like, I don't know, my parents were from the north side or something?

01:48:10.000 I don't know, we went to Cubs games.

01:48:12.000 Well, the best pizza in America is in New England, so go check it out.

01:48:15.000 But the thing is, at the time, growing up, the Sox were good and the Cubs were losing.

01:48:20.000 I remember going to a Cubs game with my family and we left right away because they were losing so miserably.

01:48:24.000 Really?

01:48:24.000 Yeah.

01:48:25.000 And then I remember when the White Sox won the World Series and it was insane in Chicago.

01:48:31.000 Just like, people were crashing cars and screaming.

01:48:33.000 It went insane.

01:48:35.000 That's nuts.

01:48:36.000 And then when the Cubs won the World Series, there was like nothing happened.

01:48:40.000 Because it wasn't in Chicago, I guess.

01:48:42.000 Oh, it makes a big difference, I guess.

01:48:44.000 But everybody was surrounding Wrigley Stadium while they were playing, you know, I forgot what they were playing, were they playing Cleveland or something?

01:48:49.000 And then once it ended and everyone cheered for the Cubs finally having won after like 100 years or whatever, everyone just walked to the train.

01:48:57.000 I think someone broke a window and they yelled at and the cops came and arrested him or something.

01:49:01.000 That was it.

01:49:01.000 Everyone just walked and they're like, whoo.

01:49:02.000 And there was like, well, I guess nobody's drinking.

01:49:04.000 They're hanging out outside.

01:49:05.000 If the, if people were at, if, if, if they happened at the Cubs stadium, if the game was actually there when they won, you would have hordes of drunk people losing their minds.

01:49:15.000 Yeah.

01:49:15.000 It would have been nuts.

01:49:16.000 The crazy thing about, uh, Wrigleyville, was that if you got up at like four or five in the morning, right at the crack of dawn, and just walked down Clark Street, you'd probably find a couple wallets, money in them.

01:49:27.000 You know from personal experience?

01:49:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:49:30.000 I lived off of Clark, and you've got a couple thousand drunk people every night just partying.

01:49:37.000 And so you wake up, there's money lying around, and there's wallets just like on the ground.

01:49:40.000 Probably like iPhones too at this point.

01:49:42.000 At this point, yeah, back then we didn't, when was I down there?

01:49:45.000 That was like 2008 or 9.

01:49:48.000 So, not a whole lot of iPhones back then, but, you know, people had them.

01:49:51.000 Now, like, you walk down the street, you'd easily find five, 10 bucks and change if you were just walking down the street, and then you go buy breakfast.

01:49:58.000 Super easy way to live, to be honest.

01:50:00.000 All right, where are we at?

01:50:03.000 What is this?

01:50:04.000 Let's grab... Damien Simmons says, well, I will be buying stock in Rumble now.

01:50:09.000 Not financial advice, just showing my support for Dan Bongino.

01:50:12.000 Just got four more shares.

01:50:14.000 GameStop this.

01:50:16.000 Yeah, so I have shares, and I bought shares of Rumble a little while ago.

01:50:20.000 Cause I believe in the platform.

01:50:22.000 But I probably won't buy any more because I know the CEO and like, and Tim Kast uses Rumble affiliated companies and infrastructure.

01:50:31.000 So, you know, I don't like stock trading stuff and I would not want to besmirch my good name in the way Nancy Pelosi besmirches her bad name.

01:50:39.000 But for everybody else, I would not make any recommendations other than to say, I'm seeing a lot of people talk about how they want to buy Rumble stock.

01:50:46.000 Rumble stock went down.

01:50:48.000 A little bit today.

01:50:50.000 And it's like, it's down from where it started, but that's always to be expected when a company goes public.

01:50:54.000 But it's funny, because according to the Motley Fool, Chris Pavlovsky, the CEO, is a billionaire.

01:51:02.000 Yeah.

01:51:03.000 Wow.

01:51:04.000 I'm like, is that true?

01:51:06.000 So based on the amount of shares he has and the value of the shares currently, his net worth should be just around a billion dollars.

01:51:11.000 Oh, okay.

01:51:12.000 Yeah.

01:51:13.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:51:14.000 But it's not like it means anything.

01:51:14.000 Yeah, it is.

01:51:16.000 What do you do with it?

01:51:17.000 You can't sell it.

01:51:20.000 All right.

01:51:24.000 Falcon Laser says, Andy, do you believe Robert Silverman, who's done smears on you and Tim when he tweeted that he was just joking about being the leader of Brooklyn Antifa?

01:51:35.000 Seems like a weird joke to be like, oh, I was just kidding.

01:51:38.000 It was a performance piece, I guess.

01:51:41.000 I don't know who this person is.

01:51:42.000 I don't recall commenting about this individual, so I don't... I think he writes for like the Daily Beast or something.

01:51:51.000 Okay, yeah.

01:51:52.000 We should research it and get back to us.

01:51:54.000 Yeah.

01:51:55.000 All right, where are we at?

01:51:57.000 Danny Miller says, thanks for covering the shameful Canadian applause for a World War II veteran who fought against Russia.

01:52:02.000 Oh wait, wasn't Russia an ally in World War II?

01:52:04.000 How times change.

01:52:06.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:52:06.000 Yeah, isn't that crazy?

01:52:08.000 They have no understanding of history, so they think modern-day standards apply in the sense that Russia is bad guy now, so they must have always been the bad guy, but that's not the case.

01:52:17.000 Zachary Amnot says, Tim, I'm learning how to play guitar.

01:52:22.000 I would love it if you would put the chords to play your song Will of the People.

01:52:27.000 Uh, let me think.

01:52:28.000 What are the chords that I do?

01:52:29.000 I think it is... I think it's E alternating between E and B, and then it goes down to G and G flat.

01:52:42.000 So if you play E, G, G-flat, or is it F-sharp?

01:52:47.000 F-sharp's probably a more accurate way of describing it.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, F-sharp.

01:52:53.000 Depends on who you ask, I guess, but yeah, so E... No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not E, it's B. 0.72

01:52:59.000 It's B, G, F sharp.

01:53:02.000 There you go.

01:53:03.000 Congratulations.

01:53:04.000 There's other chords in the song, but that's the gist of it.

01:53:06.000 That's like the verse.

01:53:07.000 Yeah, I'm sure Carter could write some tabs up for that and put it online.

01:53:09.000 Tabs?

01:53:10.000 Yeah.

01:53:11.000 I'm learning how to play bass with those tabs.

01:53:11.000 I love tabs.

01:53:13.000 Tabs are easy.

01:53:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:15.000 Help you learn.

01:53:17.000 Laura Spade says, I was already boycotting Burger King over the whole Milk Shark situation.

01:53:21.000 I believe that was when they went on Twitter talking about milkshakes being against Andy Ngo or something.

01:53:25.000 Was that Burger King or McDonald's?

01:53:27.000 I don't recall either one of those corporations commenting.

01:53:29.000 Oh, I think it might have been Burger King.

01:53:31.000 Yeah, after the thing happened with milkshakes, there was a comment made by some, like, Burger King account?

01:53:36.000 You wanna look that up?

01:53:37.000 I'm looking it up.

01:53:37.000 Yeah, it was like when, like, Wendy's and Burger King were all trying to be, like, these meme accounts.

01:53:41.000 Remember that?

01:53:42.000 Wendy's was the only good one, though, you know?

01:53:43.000 Right.

01:53:44.000 They were really good, actually.

01:53:46.000 Yeah.

01:53:46.000 Corporate, family-friendly, how do you pull it off?

01:53:48.000 I'm not finding anything right now, but I'll keep digging.

01:53:50.000 Was it Burger King?

01:53:51.000 It might have been Burger King.

01:53:52.000 I don't think Laura Spade is wrong.

01:53:55.000 Jeremy Paul says, reach out to Chris from the To Be Better podcast.

01:53:59.000 He would be a great addition to the Culture War. 1.00

01:54:00.000 He's smart and libertarian leaning.

01:54:02.000 I say the best role model for young men in dating culture.

01:54:04.000 Interesting.

01:54:05.000 We'll take a look.

01:54:07.000 Never heard of that.

01:54:10.000 Red Rum Axe says, Colonel Kurtz today had one of Russell's lovers on her channel testifying he is a great guy.

01:54:16.000 She was also begging you to have her on your channel regarding M. Manson.

01:54:20.000 Marilyn Manson?

01:54:21.000 Yeah, Marilyn Manson.

01:54:22.000 So wait, someone dated Marilyn Manson and Russell Brand?

01:54:25.000 That's a crazy resume.

01:54:27.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:54:30.000 It didn't say that she was dating Marilyn Manson.

01:54:31.000 I'm sorry about that.

01:54:32.000 Sorry about that.

01:54:32.000 That was incorrect.

01:54:34.000 One of Russell's lovers and also wanted to talk about Marilyn Manson.

01:54:39.000 Is it fair to say that Russell Brand is the UK's Joe Rogan?

01:54:44.000 Is that sort of like the level that they would be trying to go after hit on?

01:54:48.000 I don't know.

01:54:50.000 I mean, maybe the UK is substantially smaller.

01:54:52.000 Right, like, proportional to the size of their media.

01:54:54.000 Obviously, we're the more dominant media culture.

01:54:56.000 But no, it's probably not.

01:54:58.000 I mean, look, Joe Rogan, he can make a video where he's like, yeah, I saw a dog, and then boom, headlines, like, Joe Rogan tells dog story everywhere.

01:55:06.000 It's like, what?

01:55:07.000 Calm down, man.

01:55:08.000 I think it's funny when Joe Rogan has an opinion, it becomes major news, and I'll see it, like, reported by everybody, and I'm like, jeez, man.

01:55:15.000 Like, Joe Rogan questions, you know, progressive tax being implemented in, in, you know, Cook County, and then it's just like, what?

01:55:25.000 I see these stories pop up where it's just like whatever, he makes an opinion.

01:55:28.000 Because so many people are listening to him.

01:55:30.000 That's what I kind of wonder about with Russell Brand.

01:55:32.000 If people who don't consider themselves political listen to him and therefore he's even more dangerous because he has a wider reach than just one fringe political commentator.

01:55:42.000 We'll grab some more super chats.

01:55:43.000 The Risk says, first time super chatting.

01:55:45.000 Name the Halloween coffee Rise or Die with Roberto Jr.

01:55:48.000 By the way, love Appalachian Nights and Rise with Roberto Jr.

01:55:51.000 Sleepy Joe for decaf, rock on.

01:55:53.000 We are launching ReRise with Roberto Jr., and we've already been working on our blend.

01:56:01.000 So our signature coffees are always some kind of blend combination that we try to find the right flavor.

01:56:09.000 And for ReRise with Roberto Jr., limited edition, It is a chicken foot bursting out of the grave, because as much as we love Roberto Jr., we're also crass.

01:56:18.000 But that one, I think, is going to be out just in time for Halloween, hopefully.

01:56:22.000 And I think we wanted to do an initial, we wanted to do only 500, but it's impossible.

01:56:26.000 It has to be at least 5,000.

01:56:27.000 So we're like, okay, well, we'll figure it out.

01:56:31.000 Maybe we'll be a single run of 5,000 for the season, and then when it's gone, it's gone.

01:56:36.000 Just to circle back to the Burger King thing, there was a tweet from Burger King after a milkshake was thrown at Nigel Farage, I think?

01:56:47.000 And they got banned because they were saying, like, this is a great idea.

01:56:47.000 Oh, that's what it was.

01:56:50.000 I can't find the tweet because it got banned, but it was after Nigel Farage was thrown.

01:56:56.000 The Burger King corporate account was like, You're totally right, being like, we're funny and we're very good with the memes.

01:57:01.000 And Farage was before you, right?

01:57:03.000 Correct.

01:57:03.000 Yeah, because it was like they started doing this milkshaking thing and then with you they got really violent.

01:57:07.000 Yes, beat me on that.

01:57:09.000 So, I feel bad that during this Super Chat thing, there were questions directed at me, and a lot of it was like, I don't remember, I don't recall that, and that might be part of the, I mean, it's one of probably the lingering effects of the subarachnoid brain hemorrhage that I suffered in 2019.

01:57:30.000 2019 was that beating.

01:57:32.000 People just think that I was just hit with, like, drinks.

01:57:35.000 Like something, but it was much more dangerous.

01:57:37.000 Well, it was the punches and kicks to my body and bashes to my head and eyes and face.

01:57:42.000 It was then after that that they threw all the liquids on it.

01:57:46.000 So I had traumatic brain injury and memory issues, part of that.

01:57:49.000 So I apologize to any of the viewers out there who are hearing a lot of me saying, I don't recall, I don't know what this is about.

01:57:57.000 But yes, I do remember the Burger King UK account making light of what happened to Nigel.

01:58:03.000 They tweeted May 18th of 2019.

01:58:05.000 Dear people of Scotland, we're selling milkshakes all weekend.

01:58:07.000 Have fun.

01:58:08.000 Love, BK.

01:58:09.000 Hashtag just saying.

01:58:10.000 Yeah, and that was right after it happened.

01:58:12.000 Yep.

01:58:14.000 Let's grab more.

01:58:15.000 Arthur Palmer says the biggest problem with the media is that they so often scream wolf when there are none.

01:58:19.000 No one will trust to cry until a wolf bites someone in half.

01:58:23.000 Yeah.

01:58:24.000 Joseph says exception, Tim, not the rule.

01:58:26.000 I know 18-year-old leftists, and they are wonderful people, just lied to constantly.

01:58:30.000 Explain it with them, we aren't different.

01:58:32.000 I never said you can't talk to the banality of communism, and you can explain to people, and people wake up.

01:58:37.000 I said many people do wake up, and they realize, like, holy crap, what I was doing was wrong, and I shouldn't be party to this.

01:58:37.000 In fact, I said the opposite.

01:58:42.000 My point is that if there is a group of people Marching down the street smashing windows waving a communist flag organized by a group That's called revolutionary communism, and then you meet a guy who's in there and be like well.

01:58:56.000 I'm not and it's like okay, but listen That's fine, I get that.

01:59:01.000 But that's what I would refer to as the banality of evil.

01:59:04.000 You are facilitating communists and their expansion and institutional capture.

01:59:09.000 So, your group, you are communists.

01:59:12.000 It's like there's a dude, it's just, I don't know, I don't see any other point to say it any other way.

01:59:18.000 To get into the gritty of like, well, it is RevCom, they are revolutionary communists, But some of the people who are working for them in support of communism don't actually know they're communists, so I won't call them that.

01:59:30.000 It's like, well that's confusing and hard to describe to people what's really going on.

01:59:33.000 You know?

01:59:34.000 I think there's this expectation from people on the right that we should be principled or holier-than-thou and not to adopt the left's tactics, but I think we should do away with that because as deranged as left tactics are, they're effective.

01:59:47.000 But I'm not even saying that!

01:59:49.000 I'm saying the left is lying about people on the right being fascists because they are evil, and the people on the right are calling them communists, accurately.

01:59:58.000 So it's more of the left using the Alinsky tactics, accuse your opponents of doing what you do.

02:00:02.000 Isn't one of the tactics to label your opponents Nazis?

02:00:05.000 Uh, yes, literally label them Nazis. 0.99

02:00:07.000 Attack them as fascists. 1.00

02:00:07.000 Right. 1.00

02:00:09.000 Exactly, attack them as fascists.

02:00:10.000 So you will have a libertarian and a Trump supporter having an argument.

02:00:14.000 We will have two different conservatives in here, Arguing over the war in Ukraine, like, you know, we had Ami Horowitz and Matt Gaetz having a principled and heated discussion on the merits, and Matt Gaetz said, you sound like John McCain, and Ami was like, that sounds like a compliment.

02:00:28.000 And it's like, right, it's like very different worldviews, but they're both fascists.

02:00:33.000 Even though that's like no international war, it makes no sense.

02:00:37.000 Fascism.

02:00:39.000 That makes no sense.

02:00:40.000 None.

02:00:41.000 But we'll elaborate more.

02:00:42.000 We'll get some more Super Chats in.

02:00:44.000 Where are we at?

02:00:46.000 Alright.

02:00:47.000 Grandstandingandhotadogging says, if Russell Brand was trying to shield himself from his past behavior, he would not be building an anti-establishment audience, he would be acting like Howard Stern and catering to the woke mob.

02:00:58.000 Keep up the great work, guys.

02:00:59.000 Exactly.

02:01:01.000 Howard Stern is a good example of someone who is scared of being MeToo'd.

02:01:07.000 How many- How much you wanna bet?

02:01:09.000 Yeah.

02:01:10.000 Howard Stern, if there was anybody I had to make a guess, it would not be... If you put Russell Brand and Howard Stern in front of me and said, which one do you think is more likely to have abused women?

02:01:17.000 I'm putting Howard Stern.

02:01:18.000 I'm like, didn't he do it on his show?

02:01:20.000 Right.

02:01:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:01:21.000 Like, didn't they have something like launching hot dogs at women's tits or something like that? 0.99

02:01:25.000 I mean, they had so much stuff on that show, man.

02:01:27.000 I don't know I could be wrong I want to be careful here but I'm just like- I thought it was there was some conversation he was having with um was it Hillary Duff or some like former young starlet that people years later were like oh wow wait a minute maybe this is not okay I mean if that's the first thing things that surface what else has been buried and a lot of people who are in these positions You know, instead of going to the media, people who have allegations against them will go to them with a lawyer and they'll privately settle about it.

02:01:56.000 So we'll potentially never hear about these things because they've reached some sort of agreement in hopes of getting out ahead of it or keeping it from getting to the media.

02:02:05.000 Yeah, I mean, like, if you look at Russell Brand, I just Google searched it, and it's like a compilation of Howard Stern abusing women.

02:02:13.000 And if you look at the stuff Russell Brand was doing to accuse him of, it's like he's making crude jokes on TV that are, like, inappropriate.

02:02:19.000 And it's like, wow, you know, the people were laughing, they liked that dark comedy.

02:02:22.000 You look at the stuff Howard Stern is doing, he's legitimately, like, saying things to these women that are just like... 0.89

02:02:30.000 Oh yeah, it's way, way different.

02:02:31.000 Yeah.

02:02:31.000 He's not joking, he's literally asking them about their bodies and stuff.

02:02:35.000 And they're getting uncomfortable, and it's like... Not to mention the stuff he said about Columbine, like holy crap. 0.96

02:02:40.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.52

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02:04:36.000 We were talking about it before the show a little bit here.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 25, 2023

Timcast IRL - BOYCOTT After Ad Firms DROP RUMBLE For Defending Russell Brandw-Andy Ngo & Patriot J

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