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00:00:22.000 Welcome, everybody, to the special My Birthday After Show.

00:00:37.000 Ian came up to join us.

00:00:38.000 Hi, everyone.

00:00:39.000 He looks like he just woke up.

00:00:40.000 I have been practicing.

00:00:42.000 I've actually been very tired.

00:00:44.000 I was up really late last night.

00:00:45.000 You look like it.

00:00:46.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:00:47.000 What's really late?

00:00:47.000 6 a.m.?

00:00:48.000 7 a.m.?

00:00:49.000 Yeah, 7 a.m.

00:00:50.000 And then you went to bed and you woke up?

00:00:51.000 I slept for like two hours today, probably.

00:00:53.000 But anyway, I want to rock and roll.

00:00:55.000 You guys were talking about doing a festival.

00:00:56.000 We'll do the song later, so for everybody who wants to hear the conversation.

00:00:59.000 Do you want to chill and talk, too?

00:01:00.000 Let's do that.

00:01:01.000 I'll play a song, too.

00:01:02.000 So we have this story from Timcast.com.

00:01:04.000 Seth Rogen cites lack of children for his success.

00:01:08.000 Me and my wife seem to get a lot more active enjoyment out of not having kids than anyone I know seems to get out of having kids.

00:01:14.000 And I just want to cope and seethe.

00:01:17.000 Is that the appropriate response?

00:01:19.000 Cope and seethe?

00:01:19.000 You know, what's interesting to me is that You hear a lot of celebrities now, and it's become this sort of like popular thing to say, oh, we're glad we didn't have kids.

00:01:31.000 We're successful because we didn't have kids.

00:01:33.000 I'm six.

00:01:33.000 Who is somebody?

00:01:34.000 Who was it?

00:01:35.000 You probably remember.

00:01:36.000 She said, I got my Oscar because I had an abortion.

00:01:38.000 Oh yeah.

00:01:40.000 Who was that?

00:01:41.000 I forget who that was.

00:01:41.000 Was it Ashley Judd or something like that?

00:01:43.000 It wasn't Ashley Judd.

00:01:43.000 No, okay.

00:01:44.000 Okay.

00:01:44.000 I know she's a prominent antinatalist.

00:01:47.000 Yeah, she certainly was.

00:01:48.000 Michelle Williams?

00:01:49.000 Michelle Williams.

00:01:51.000 Seth Rogen was going hard on it today.

00:01:55.000 And yet you never hear the reverse.

00:01:58.000 You never hear someone say, oh, I wish I didn't have children.

00:02:02.000 I wish that I didn't have these kids.

00:02:04.000 These kids are the worst.

00:02:06.000 Why did I even do this?

00:02:08.000 Yeah, I don't, I certainly don't feel that way.

00:02:10.000 I saw one.

00:02:11.000 It was a friend, a girl that used to be a friend, but she was like on Adderall and had a Ukraine. 0.85

00:02:15.000 I don't know if the Ukraine flag in the bio means anything, but it was probably the Adderall, like being distanced from emotions.

00:02:21.000 She's like, my kid is this and that.

00:02:22.000 It's like, dude, I mean, look.

00:02:25.000 Don't get me wrong, people vent, right?

00:02:27.000 People are gonna vent here and there, but to put out a statement about that, where it's like, I'm glad I never had children, or on the flip side, I wish I had never had children, it just doesn't happen.

00:02:39.000 I feel like it's so much more a political statement than a statement about reality.

00:02:45.000 100%, 100%.

00:02:45.000 It's more like tribal signaling than actually a reflection of their experience in life.

00:02:50.000 It's totally become that.

00:02:54.000 They say, oh, you know, I don't have children and that's why I have all of these things and that's why I'm successful and it's like, there are...

00:03:04.000 An infinite amount of people that have children and that have done amazing things. 0.81

00:03:10.000 So to think that you can't do, you can't have a successful life because of your children is completely ridiculous and totally detached from reality.

00:03:19.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:03:19.000 I mean, it barely even, it barely even warrants a reply. 0.95

00:03:23.000 I mean, it's just that stupid. 0.99

00:03:25.000 When I was thinking my hesitance to have kids in the early days was I wanted to be able to fly them around the world with me. 0.99

00:03:30.000 Cause I didn't want to be the dad on the road.

00:03:33.000 That happens to me every day, man.

00:03:36.000 I think about that all the time.

00:03:37.000 And that's why I've tried for the longest time.

00:03:39.000 We're even talking about something for the summer, some plans that I take them with me as much as I can.

00:03:47.000 And I will do so as long as I can until they're in school.

00:03:50.000 And even at that point, you know, we'll see what we can do.

00:03:52.000 Well, I take my, if it's summer, I take my son on all kinds of whatever stuff I have to do.

00:03:58.000 Yeah.

00:03:58.000 You know, and then like, I plan like vacations around whatever the things are that I have to do.

00:04:03.000 Like we went to Israel this, this fall.

00:04:05.000 It was amazing.

00:04:05.000 Yeah.

00:04:06.000 We're planning a West coast trip to see, um, I have two brothers.

00:04:09.000 One of my brothers moved out to San Francisco.

00:04:11.000 We're planning a West coast trip to go see her brother and you were, you were alluding to family and.

00:04:18.000 Look, I guess I was thinking as long as you're not like not seeing them 30 days and then seeing them one or two days.

00:04:24.000 You were thinking the good times outweigh the amount of time you got to be away from that when you actually are there with your kids.

00:04:29.000 It's so much better than being there with no kids.

00:04:32.000 You were thinking more of like if you were like on tour as a musician, right?

00:04:36.000 Yeah, or having to fly to Sweden to talk to for some two day thing.

00:04:40.000 Yeah, for sure on traveling like that. It is hard when you have my kid with me

00:04:45.000 Yeah when you have to leave for like so

00:04:47.000 For my experience like that it is a really tough thing to be like I have to leave for you know, six weeks

00:04:53.000 You know if we go on tour like we go we're not going for a weekend

00:04:57.000 Especially if you're starting out if you're because we're talking about young people having kids when they're young

00:05:02.000 If you're looking to start as a touring artist and you're going to be on tour for a month, six weeks, 10 weeks or whatever, it is really, really difficult.

00:05:13.000 There's not a lot of stable families.

00:05:15.000 in that field.

00:05:16.000 Military, same way, right?

00:05:18.000 You know, I remember the unit I was in because we were in a high deployment unit,

00:05:23.000 high up tempo before I got out, last one I was in, that I mean,

00:05:27.000 I could just see the guys who had been in there for, you know, 20 years, guys who were in 30 years,

00:05:34.000 and all of them were on their second wife, all of them were like starting their second family,

00:05:39.000 and you hear all these jokes about, oh, I'm a starter wife, I'm a starter family,

00:05:42.000 and all this, and it's like, I don't want a starter family.

00:05:45.000 I want a family.

00:05:47.000 But that happens no matter what profession you're in, too.

00:05:49.000 I mean, doesn't this happen in the military?

00:05:50.000 And Seth Rogen's only 40?

00:05:52.000 Wow.

00:05:53.000 I thought he was 50.

00:05:54.000 My dad had.

00:05:55.000 He's 40.

00:05:55.000 He looks.

00:05:56.000 I'm sorry.

00:05:56.000 He looks terrible.

00:05:57.000 Basically, one wasn't married, but he has children with four different women.

00:06:01.000 Oh, I thought he was like 50.

00:06:03.000 And he never he never moved out of.

00:06:05.000 I mean, he never moved out of New England.

00:06:07.000 Right.

00:06:07.000 But I'm also I'm also making a more general point that certain industries and certain occupations lend themselves.

00:06:15.000 When I was married, me and my wife went through two deployments.

00:06:17.000 She went to Iraq once and Afghanistan once.

00:06:20.000 And that doesn't make anything That sounds awful.

00:06:23.000 At all.

00:06:23.000 It was horrible.

00:06:24.000 Sucked. 0.95

00:06:25.000 Without revealing other people's private information, I can, my buddies. 0.97

00:06:28.000 I mean, you're, when you're, distance, the point of being together is literally being together when you're, you're there, you know?

00:06:36.000 So distance.

00:06:38.000 That's one of the reasons, man, when it comes to, you know, this, we never show videos.

00:06:44.000 They always show those videos of a soldier coming home to their kids.

00:06:47.000 And they're all so happy, but they never show the video of the front end of that where, you know, daddy's got to go off to get shot at.

00:06:53.000 Mommy has got to go off to get shot at. 1.00

00:06:56.000 And you sit there and you go, I mean, you think of like a Joe Kent situation and he's, you know, I'll talk about it because he's open about it, that about what happened to his wife, you know, two little boys and she's killed in Syria.

00:07:07.000 And then Matt Gaetz goes up yesterday and tries to explain, tries to get someone to just answer the question.

00:07:12.000 Why do we have these troops over there doing all this? 0.66

00:07:15.000 And so we have to fight ISIS.

00:07:16.000 Well, Is ISIS in Syria a poised to attack us?

00:07:20.000 Like you're gonna find crazy groups everywhere in the world.

00:07:23.000 It's because the pipeline and they think, well, it'll be 9.99 a gallon.

00:07:27.000 No, no, no, I mean, I get all that, but I guess as, you know,

00:07:30.000 if there's anything that I can do from a, to be a voice for is to say that these are real people

00:07:37.000 with real families and real children that are losing parents and losing time with parents,

00:07:41.000 which can be just as bad for their development, that you're sending people

00:07:46.000 and you're playing with these families.

00:07:47.000 And if you're gonna do that, then okay, let's do that for a reason that matters.

00:07:51.000 You only have little kids for like a minute.

00:07:54.000 Thankfully, I'm hoping to have kids in my life, but I didn't have young kids and miss out on their formative years and stuff.

00:08:03.000 Our guitar player just had a kid a year and a half ago, and we've done one tour since, and it was ten weeks!

00:08:12.000 I watched the guy suffering.

00:08:14.000 You know, this dude that I've been in a band with for 20 years, you know, I've heard all the jokes you can imagine that dudes would make, you know, in a metal tube, and then watching him just be miserable, crying, because he's gotta leave his kid.

00:08:27.000 And it's like, you know, you've had like this awesome situation where he's been at home for the first year of the kid, you know, it's like, it's... It's almost like there's a biological, spiritual, natural imperative to raising children.

00:08:39.000 But let's just think about this from a logical standpoint, not an emotional one.

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00:09:50.000 By the way, I'd just like to say that I'm totally fine with Seth Rogen not having kids.

00:09:55.000 Speaking about totally fine with that.

00:09:56.000 This is my point.

00:09:58.000 If these are the people, like Chelsea Handler and Seth Rogen, who aren't having kids, we're not upset.

00:10:01.000 I mean, more power to them.

00:10:02.000 They're doing what they want, and I don't care if they don't have kids.

00:10:04.000 If the media manipulates people to not have kids, then they're selecting themselves out of the gene pool.

00:10:08.000 I'm fine with it.

00:10:09.000 I'm fine with it.

00:10:09.000 Done.

00:10:09.000 So I'll give you a great example.

00:10:11.000 Ian, have kids.

00:10:13.000 Thanks.

00:10:14.000 Ian, go to Latin Mass, remember we're going in Austin, and then have kids.

00:10:18.000 Are you guys going right after Latin Mass that night?

00:10:20.000 Yes, exactly.

00:10:21.000 Make it happen?

00:10:22.000 So yeah, I will find some girl for you. It'd be great.

00:10:24.000 So this Sunday, I remember, so it's Lent right now. And I've, you know, you're supposed to, you know, sacrifice something

00:10:37.000 for Lent. So something I'm doing is I'm doing digital fast on

00:10:42.000 So no social media, no screens.

00:10:45.000 I've been wondering, how does that feel?

00:10:47.000 Mark Wahlberg's 40-day challenge, you mean?

00:10:50.000 It's amazing.

00:10:52.000 I'm definitely super against the Halo app.

00:10:54.000 I'm sorry, Mark.

00:10:55.000 Marky Mark.

00:10:56.000 What's the Halo app?

00:10:56.000 Pay $8.99 to learn how to pray.

00:10:59.000 Really?

00:11:00.000 I've basically been digitally fasting on weekends as it is for a while.

00:11:03.000 That's amazing.

00:11:04.000 And it's so good.

00:11:04.000 And you're standing a lot.

00:11:06.000 Sitting a lot.

00:11:07.000 No, I just go to the poker tables and just turn everything off and ignore everybody.

00:11:10.000 It's very healthy.

00:11:11.000 And I came in, I came back on like Sunday night or Monday morning, whatever it was, and was like, hey man, somebody was like dragging you on Twitter and this thing went on and that thing.

00:11:19.000 And I was like, you know what I did?

00:11:21.000 I was walking around the lake counting turtles with my kids.

00:11:24.000 Counting turtles?

00:11:25.000 Just counting turtles with my kids.

00:11:27.000 We found three.

00:11:28.000 Dude, that depth perception is huge.

00:11:30.000 Every day someone sends me something like, bro, did you see what they're saying about you now?

00:11:34.000 Every time, man.

00:11:35.000 Every time. 1.00

00:11:35.000 They say shit about me all the time, dude. 1.00

00:11:37.000 What do the crickets say about you? 1.00

00:11:38.000 So, you know, my phone was dead.

00:11:39.000 I had like 10% battery left.

00:11:41.000 Yeah.

00:11:42.000 Last weekend.

00:11:42.000 I was like, this is perfect.

00:11:43.000 And I just put in my pocket and I'm like, I'm gonna sit at this table and nothing else is happening.

00:11:46.000 It's so good.

00:11:47.000 It's amazing.

00:11:47.000 Then I had some sushi, some crab rangoons.

00:11:50.000 You know what else we've been doing?

00:11:51.000 Those are good.

00:11:52.000 And I've been reading a ton.

00:11:54.000 And just getting the physical book.

00:11:57.000 And I was a guy and then I got this from when I was in the military just to playing a lot because you can't really carry books.

00:12:02.000 So I kind of got into e-books, I got used to it.

00:12:05.000 But then I would read on my phone.

00:12:07.000 And the problem with reading your phone is that you read like a couple sentences and then you're like, what's going on Twitter?

00:12:13.000 What's going over here?

00:12:15.000 And then you miss it.

00:12:16.000 And I forgot how fast you can read with a physical book.

00:12:18.000 You can just read the book.

00:12:20.000 I keep thinking about the neural net.

00:12:23.000 It's a different experience.

00:12:25.000 It's like reading a 10x.

00:12:26.000 It's like a movie.

00:12:28.000 Reading a book, a physical book, unfolds in your brain.

00:12:31.000 It's better than a movie.

00:12:32.000 If it's a good book, it can be better.

00:12:33.000 It unfolds differently in your brain.

00:12:36.000 Do you guys think Neuralink is inevitable or their species will just divide or bifurcate and people will and people won't and there'll be conflict or something?

00:12:45.000 I wonder.

00:12:47.000 I think there'll be a species that, so there'll be divisions, but I also think that there's something immutable to humanity that no amount of sophistication, whether it be Neuralink or anything like that, will ever be able to compensate for. Yeah, you're saying

00:13:04.000 counting turtles with that depth perception of reality, like you're supposed to look into the horizon

00:13:07.000 for 15 minutes a day. So when we went to when we went to Davos with Tanya, I guess two years ago now,

00:13:15.000 that it was May of 2020.

00:13:20.000 So, we went to the Metaverse, had like a kiosk set up there on the street, and so Tanya goes in, and the Metaverse, you know, this like Swedish girl comes up to her and says, she's like, oh this is wonderful, then your children, they will not need to go to the zoo, they will not need to go to the forest, they can just go to the forest in the Metaverse.

00:13:41.000 Oh my goodness, what a horror!

00:13:42.000 And so Tanya is looking at her going, so you want my... 1.00

00:13:46.000 kids to sit in their room with the screen, not just on the screen, but with the screen attached to their face and be in, not interacting with, with real nature or going to a zoo and seeing real animals, but you want them to see fake animals on a screen.

00:14:00.000 And it just, as a mom, you know, and kind of like a half normie, she was like, absolutely not.

00:14:07.000 No way.

00:14:08.000 Ethical question.

00:14:09.000 Would you neural link with your child so that you would never be away from them?

00:14:12.000 No, no, no.

00:14:13.000 What if you had to travel a lot?

00:14:14.000 No, never.

00:14:15.000 Like six months out of the year?

00:14:16.000 Absolutely never, no.

00:14:17.000 I mean, and I grew up...

00:14:18.000 In space or something?

00:14:19.000 I grew up without my mom present.

00:14:20.000 What are you saying with like, but like in a metaverse scenario?

00:14:25.000 No, I would never...

00:14:26.000 No, like you are an astronaut, you get selected to go on some mission, you're going to be

00:14:28.000 gone for four months out of the year at a time or whatever, you have a chance to link

00:14:32.000 up with your kids so you can share thoughts?

00:14:33.000 No, that's a terrible idea.

00:14:34.000 You should not be sharing thoughts with your children.

00:14:36.000 Your child should grow up...

00:14:37.000 Would it be permanent?

00:14:38.000 As their own person.

00:14:39.000 It would just be an optional open source opportunity.

00:14:42.000 Would it be like a phone call?

00:14:43.000 You know, what if you could plug your kids brain in and reprogram bad things?

00:14:48.000 You know, like I would never do anything like that.

00:14:50.000 But what if he's like, like throwing rocks at cats?

00:14:53.000 Yeah. OK. And then you're like, you got to stop doing that.

00:14:55.000 He did once destroy an iPad with a rock.

00:14:58.000 Wow. Because he wanted to see what would happen.

00:15:00.000 No, no, no.

00:15:01.000 A serious question.

00:15:02.000 What if you catch your kid capturing cats and torturing them?

00:15:05.000 Would you be like, I am going to remove that from them.

00:15:08.000 This is a bad thing.

00:15:09.000 They're going in a bad direction.

00:15:10.000 Yeah, but you don't remove something by tampering with someone's brain in a gross and physical sense.

00:15:18.000 Here's a question for you guys.

00:15:19.000 If your kid accidentally killed someone, would you shield them from the law?

00:15:24.000 I think it depends on the circumstances.

00:15:25.000 Was it an actual accident?

00:15:26.000 An accident.

00:15:26.000 Like, they're driving, and they blew a red light, hit a car, the person died, they come home in a panic saying, what do I do?

00:15:34.000 Would you either, like, would you shield them in any way?

00:15:37.000 I think I would probably... Of course. 0.99

00:15:39.000 I would hire the best fucking attorney I could possibly find. 0.99

00:15:43.000 I drove the car. 1.00

00:15:44.000 Exactly.

00:15:44.000 A lot of parents would be like, that was me driving.

00:15:46.000 I drove the car.

00:15:47.000 I wouldn't do that.

00:15:48.000 I wouldn't say I was driving the car because that would be too easily disproven.

00:15:52.000 There's cameras everywhere.

00:15:53.000 When I was in the military, there's always that question of like, hey man, would you take a bullet for the president?

00:15:59.000 Would you do this? 0.54

00:16:01.000 Take a bullet for that person? 0.94

00:16:02.000 And it's always kind of like, well, I'd prefer not to.

00:16:05.000 I'd prefer to be in a situation where you don't have to do that.

00:16:11.000 I don't know.

00:16:12.000 But when it comes to my kids, it's like, I don't even have to think about it.

00:16:16.000 Of course I would.

00:16:17.000 That's probably just genetic.

00:16:19.000 Just of course I would.

00:16:20.000 Like ancient genetic code.

00:16:22.000 Oh, that's your baseline, like first built, like God had the first thought of a human and that's like the first thing.

00:16:30.000 So in this neural net experiment.

00:16:32.000 Yeah, like I don't even have to think about it.

00:16:34.000 Of course I would take a bull for that.

00:16:35.000 So if you were the neural net thing if it was like optional like the kid didn't have to you weren't reading his mind It was just like when you guys want to talk you can and it's like you can just trade thoughts really quick You can see what he's seeing so you can like see what he's up to if you want if he wants to Would you take that opportunity?

00:16:50.000 I think independence is too essential for a human being to be able to survive and to feel good and to be confident.

00:16:57.000 I don't, I won't, I would not want that.

00:16:59.000 Are you talking about phone calls?

00:17:00.000 You're talking about cyborgs.

00:17:01.000 Yeah, phone calls.

00:17:01.000 Video chat, like it's just kind of the next evolution of video chat.

00:17:03.000 I don't think it is the next evolution, but I'm totally opposed to neuralink, like I don't want any piece of this.

00:17:08.000 What if it's like, it's like one of those, like what do they call it, the loading room in Matrix?

00:17:12.000 Right?

00:17:14.000 Where it was all white and you just kind of, you could just call up whatever you wanted, you know?

00:17:18.000 And so if it was something like that and I could meet my kid there virtually.

00:17:23.000 Then essentially you're just, you're both experiencing, it's a virtual place, but you're not in each other's head.

00:17:28.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:17:29.000 It's like a phone call.

00:17:29.000 That's like playing video games.

00:17:31.000 You don't want to go into someone else's head and you don't want someone else actually inside your head.

00:17:37.000 What if the government held you down and plugged a Neuralink into you and then started downloading your thoughts and you're like, nah.

00:17:45.000 I think you'd just have to be like, no.

00:17:47.000 That's actually what happens to Ian after every show.

00:17:50.000 If it's just like a VR that you can put on in a room with your kid and you can have a normal conversation, as opposed to injecting something into your neck.

00:18:00.000 I think people have a big problem with the injectable thing.

00:18:01.000 Did you guys hear the story about the 20-something-year-old daughter who gave her kidney to her 60-year-old dad?

00:18:06.000 I did, and she didn't even tell him.

00:18:08.000 I heard about that, but it was anonymous, yeah.

00:18:10.000 Yeah, he was like, absolutely do not do this.

00:18:12.000 Right, and I feel like he probably felt immense pain at learning that his daughter is gonna live 10 more years so he can live five, that she'll be 35 and in a hospital.

00:18:23.000 She'll lose 10 years.

00:18:24.000 No, you don't live that long when you have one kidney.

00:18:27.000 Like, people who give kidney transplants don't live that long.

00:18:31.000 Really?

00:18:31.000 What do you mean?

00:18:31.000 You can't live that long?

00:18:32.000 Yeah, like, she might live to be 50, and you can't drink, and you have to be careful on your diet.

00:18:36.000 You have one kidney.

00:18:37.000 It's like, it's bad.

00:18:38.000 I wonder if stem cells will help.

00:18:39.000 No more alcohol ever, you know?

00:18:41.000 And so she's in her 20s, and she gave her dad a kidney, so we can have about five more years? 0.78

00:18:44.000 That'd be cool to fund stem cell treatment for her. 0.92

00:18:46.000 Well, she already gave her kidney up. 1.00

00:18:47.000 But for her single kidney, just keep it healthy for her life. 1.00

00:18:50.000 Like, I can't imagine.

00:18:51.000 She thinks she's doing the right thing because she loves her dad, but I feel like that's probably the most painful thing you've ever heard.

00:18:55.000 Yeah.

00:18:55.000 I don't think I would do that for my parents.

00:18:57.000 And I even, I like my parents.

00:18:59.000 I don't think a parent would want that.

00:19:01.000 I don't think they would want me to.

00:19:04.000 No.

00:19:04.000 No, I don't think so.

00:19:05.000 Homer Simpson has said this on more than one occasion.

00:19:08.000 Every parent's dream is to watch their children die.

00:19:10.000 Huh.

00:19:11.000 Or something like that.

00:19:12.000 What about the doctors who let her do that knowing that it was against her father's wishes?

00:19:15.000 To outlive their children.

00:19:16.000 To outlive their children.

00:19:18.000 Not to watch them die, but to outlive their children.

00:19:20.000 Yeah, obviously no one feels that way.

00:19:23.000 At what point do you think when you're like communicating with someone that you're in their brain?

00:19:27.000 What?

00:19:27.000 What you said earlier, you don't want to be in someone's brain.

00:19:30.000 I don't think you're ever in someone's brain.

00:19:32.000 I think that you can have the feeling that you're super close to somebody and that you're entirely simpatico.

00:19:37.000 He's talking about Neuralink though.

00:19:38.000 I know.

00:19:40.000 But like...

00:19:42.000 I don't know, like once you get to that point of... Because like when you look at someone's eyes, you're kind of brain to brain vibrating, like bouncing light brain to brain directly because of the eyeball brain stem.

00:19:52.000 But isn't that part of the beauty of communication though, is being able to attain that level of closeness without actually penetrating the other person's mind?

00:20:02.000 Oh that is pretty cool.

00:20:04.000 I mean that is communication basically.

00:20:05.000 That's the most wonderful form of it.

00:20:07.000 I think that I mean Neuralink is going to be a Pandora's box of opening up things that we're never going to be able to fully predict because keep in mind that at any given time you have a Running stream of consciousness, we all do.

00:20:28.000 We're already seeing the effects of the world with Twitter, where Twitter is almost like we're being exposed to everyone else's stream of consciousness.

00:20:37.000 Whereas as before, it's like, oh, hey, that's my neighbor, you know, I know my neighbor, that's what's up, Bob, you know, Bob usually goes to work around this time, Bob puts his trash out, you know, in the morning, I put my trash out in the evening.

00:20:49.000 And that's what I know of Bob, right?

00:20:50.000 But now it's like, I can follow Bob on Twitter.

00:20:53.000 And it's like, whoa, Bob believes what about Trump?

00:20:57.000 Bob believes what about the FBI?

00:20:59.000 Bob believes, you know, believes what?

00:21:01.000 You know, Bob's this, Bob's that.

00:21:03.000 And suddenly you're judging people based on their inner thoughts.

00:21:06.000 We're already doing that.

00:21:07.000 And we're seeing how Twitter and other social media are Really testing the fabric of society.

00:21:14.000 So with Neuralink, I think you're gonna have that on a whole nother level.

00:21:17.000 Yeah, worse than people realize.

00:21:19.000 To the point where you can't even control the thoughts that you... Think about this algorithmic thought distribution.

00:21:27.000 You'll be sitting there being like, I'm gonna think something really nice and send it to my family.

00:21:31.000 And then your family never hears the nice thoughts, only the angry thoughts.

00:21:34.000 Well, the other thing too that happens is if you think about it, sometimes you have thoughts That are like totally wacky thoughts and you didn't even mean to have them.

00:21:42.000 They just come into your mind.

00:21:45.000 Intrusive thoughts.

00:21:46.000 Intrusive thoughts.

00:21:47.000 And, or like, you know, you have a dream.

00:21:49.000 Those come from demons, by the way.

00:21:50.000 Not something that you want.

00:21:52.000 And you have to be able to say to yourself, okay, these are thoughts that I'm having.

00:21:56.000 That doesn't mean that they are thoughts that I believe in.

00:21:59.000 I am entertaining these thoughts and they are going to flip right by.

00:22:02.000 And I don't have to deal, like, I don't have to internalize.

00:22:05.000 You don't have to internalize all the thoughts you have.

00:22:07.000 Some of them you can just be like, oh, that's crazy.

00:22:07.000 Yeah, there's this.

00:22:09.000 I thought that.

00:22:10.000 The tobacco demon hits me every once in a while.

00:22:13.000 They call it the father.

00:22:14.000 The tobacco demon.

00:22:14.000 Ayahuasca, the mother.

00:22:15.000 Tobacco's the father.

00:22:16.000 So I've, I've never, like, I quit drinking, what, 17 years?

00:22:21.000 And like, I don't think about, like, I just, I never think, like, I never had that feeling of like, oh, I want to drink.

00:22:26.000 But every once in a while, just randomly, I could be driving, I could play music, whatever, and it'll just hit me like, man, I go for a cigarette.

00:22:33.000 It's like, whoa, where did that come from?

00:22:36.000 I haven't had a drink in five years, and I haven't had a cigarette in three.

00:22:40.000 I never, thank you, I never think about drinking ever.

00:22:43.000 I don't care.

00:22:44.000 Cigarettes, man, if I walk by someone smoking, I'm like... 1.00

00:22:47.000 Man, I'm gonna kick your ass and take that, you know? 0.99

00:22:50.000 In South America, this dude was telling me they would boil the tobacco and then drink it and puke and have these psychedelic experiences and they would, the natives would call it like... I mean, that's similar to how I like it. 1.00

00:23:01.000 I just wanna try it.

00:23:02.000 Yeah, and I guess maybe even mix those two together at some point.

00:23:06.000 Right, so it wasn't just the ayahuasca plant that they were doing it with.

00:23:09.000 To your point, they were doing it in process.

00:23:11.000 Yeah, I was shy.

00:23:12.000 I didn't know they had tobacco fasts, but they were like tobacco ceremonies and stuff.

00:23:15.000 So there's this frequency called the Schumann resonance.

00:23:17.000 It's in the ELF band, the extremely low frequency band of our, I don't know if it's in the outer atmosphere or inner atmosphere or something.

00:23:25.000 But it changes in frequency.

00:23:26.000 It's just a frequency band.

00:23:27.000 It depends on what it is.

00:23:28.000 Yeah, and it violates.

00:23:29.000 It goes up and down. 1.00

00:23:30.000 And you're like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:23:31.000 And it seems to resonate with human activity. 0.99

00:23:34.000 I don't know.

00:23:35.000 I haven't really looked too deeply.

00:23:35.000 I've heard that.

00:23:36.000 We were actually talking about the ELF band earlier this week because that's how you communicate with submarines.

00:23:41.000 OK, and I wonder if that's where those thoughts are coming from.

00:23:44.000 They come into your head?

00:23:44.000 You need a giant antenna, super powerful, because you have to penetrate through the saltwater.

00:23:54.000 You have to penetrate through the salinity layers to be able to get to the submarine, which is beneath.

00:24:00.000 And it's like texting on a Nokia phone, even with all this power.

00:24:04.000 That's why I was talking about the Nord Stream attack.

00:24:06.000 Don't know the rest of the words?

00:24:07.000 Don't know the rest of the words.

00:24:08.000 That's all I got.

00:24:13.000 I want to play this song.

00:24:15.000 Wait, do you want to look up the lyrics to House of the Rising Sun and I'll play it?

00:24:17.000 Yeah, I'll do that.

00:24:18.000 Phil Labonte singing House of the Rising Sun.

00:24:20.000 Can I sing too?

00:24:21.000 Yeah, if you can sing.

00:24:23.000 祝你生日快乐!

00:24:23.000 What do you sound like?

00:24:23.000 我祝你生日快乐!

00:24:25.000 to the summer To the summer Jenny shunner Tim to the shunner I learned I

00:24:31.000 learned man. I think it's Mandarin bond. Oh, yeah A minor, C, D, F. And then at the end of the verses, A minor, E, A. A critical struggle.

00:24:44.000 it now people are told John John John yeah yeah you have a base do you yeah

00:24:44.000 I'll watch you and do it.

00:24:55.000 Yeah.

00:24:57.000 Yeah, we took the bass out for the music video shoot.

00:25:00.000 Here, you ready?

00:25:01.000 Start it.

00:25:01.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:25:02.000 Alright.

00:25:02.000 You start it.

00:25:16.000 There was a house in New Orleans They call the Rising Sun

00:25:28.000 It's been the room of many a poor boy And God, I know I'm one

00:25:44.000 My mother was a tailor She sewed my new blue jeans

00:25:56.000 you I don't know the next part.

00:26:04.000 Why'd you stop?

00:26:07.000 Because I don't know the rest of it!

00:26:15.000 I thought you were reading it.

00:26:26.000 Well, I'm warmed up. 0.99

00:26:27.000 It's fuckin' rock. 0.95

00:26:29.000 I'm gonna play this one. 0.96

00:26:30.000 This is the beginning.

00:26:31.000 Where do we leave off?

00:26:33.000 Now, the only thing a gamblin' man ever needs... Not the only thing a gambler needs... Is a suitcase and a trunk.

00:26:49.000 And the only time a little like him is satisfied is when he's on a drunk.

00:27:03.000 So mothers, tell your children not to do what I have done Spend your life in sin and misery in the house of the 0.99

00:27:24.000 In the house of a rising sun Well I've got one foot on the platform

00:27:27.000 rising sun Well I've got one foot on the platform and another foot on

00:27:37.000 And another foot on the train I'm going back to New Orleans

00:27:52.000 To wear that ball and chain That was us half playing a song because everybody kind of

00:28:02.000 gave up halfway.

00:28:04.000 Yeah, you know what happened is I looked at the lyrics and I'd only got half the lyrics.

00:28:07.000 I had to look up Dylan's lyrics to get all of them.

00:28:09.000 Dylan's?

00:28:10.000 I'm on a digital fast.

00:28:11.000 I was just here to rock.

00:28:12.000 I have no idea like how the song goes beyond the first.

00:28:16.000 It was the animals.

00:28:17.000 Yeah.

00:28:17.000 Like the first one.

00:28:18.000 It's all the same thing.

00:28:18.000 I was like the... Yeah.

00:28:23.000 All right, I'm going to play this song, Earthbound, because I do that in this song.

00:28:25.000 I change octaves.

00:28:27.000 It's called Earthbound.

00:28:28.000 Here goes.

00:28:29.000 Let me get this.

00:28:30.000 I want to make sure you can hear the guitar, too.

00:28:33.000 Let's see if you can ad-lib some screams, some harmonies.

00:28:40.000 I can do it.

00:28:40.000 We can do it.

00:28:41.000 I just need to practice it so I know it.

00:28:52.000 Everyone feels just a little bit.

00:28:56.000 All of the people are pushing a little bit.

00:29:03.000 All of the round heads that abound.

00:29:07.000 Pushing and pulling so intricate.

00:29:10.000 All of a sudden the rivers are golden dreams.

00:29:18.000 We can roll.

00:29:19.000 We can stream the flow.

00:29:22.000 Suffering a little bit.

00:29:25.000 We can change the world and we both know that.

00:29:29.000 No one's just half of it.

00:29:31.000 Loping inside.

00:29:33.000 You're playing a lie.

00:29:35.000 Rock and rolling on the edge of it.

00:29:38.000 As we tip over we fall to the side.

00:29:45.000 Long days alone, the feelings I've known Give me a little bit of everything

00:29:52.000 Though my emotions run red with the sound We're gonna find our go-getter all things in time

00:30:17.000 Everyone plays the game a little bit.

00:30:20.000 And all the people curve around and are into it.

00:30:27.000 We're gonna find all things in time.

00:30:31.000 Everyone plays the game a little bit.

00:30:34.000 All the types been making, taking, and breaking it.

00:30:41.000 We can rise, we can stream the tide, smiling up towards ecstasy.

00:30:47.000 We can hang around and rhyme the vows that spread out of the walking tree.

00:30:54.000 Open inside and playing alive, rocking and rolling on the edge of it, as we tip over, fall to the side. 0.99

00:31:04.000 Well, fuck that last part up there. 0.99

00:31:08.000 I'd go into a little bit more harmony there, I guess. 1.00

00:31:13.000 My emotions run red with the sun Whoa shit, that's a... 1.00

00:31:23.000 Oh I fucked that last part up there I go into a little bit more harmony there I guess 1.00

00:31:30.000 Oh we can do that last part again We can ride, we can ride the clouds 0.99

00:31:37.000 Down everywhere, we can travel Hey, yeah, yeah

00:31:46.000 Long days are long and feelings are long Give me a little bit of everything

00:31:52.000 Oh my, I'm on a run, red with the sun Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

00:31:58.000 Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Karma Police?

00:32:04.000 Yeah.

00:32:05.000 No.

00:32:05.000 Radiohead?

00:32:06.000 No.

00:32:07.000 That would be so sick.

00:32:08.000 I mean, that would be cool.

00:32:10.000 That should do Karma Police. 0.97

00:32:12.000 Karma Police.

00:32:14.000 You've got the voice for that, though.

00:32:15.000 Yeah, that song, it's all those high notes.

00:32:17.000 I couldn't hit those high notes.

00:32:19.000 That's more you than Phil.

00:32:21.000 Phil could do... I think that song could be really, really raucous.

00:32:27.000 really fucking epic. You know the words? 0.98

00:32:38.000 You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it.

00:32:52.000 Like a detuned radio. Karma police.

00:33:08.000 Arrest this girl, her Hitler hairdo is making me feel ill, but we have crashed her body. 1.00

00:33:29.000 This is what you'll get. 0.96

00:33:35.000 This is what you'll get.

00:33:41.000 This is what you'll get when you mesh with us Come on, police

00:33:57.000 I've given all I can, it's not enough I've given all I can, but we're still on the payroll

00:34:12.000 This is what you'll get you

00:34:27.000 you This is what you'll get.

00:34:34.000 This is what you'll get when you're lost with us For a minute there, I lost myself

00:34:53.000 I lost myself For a minute there, I lost myself

00:35:05.000 I lost myself I think it goes on longer than that or whatever. It just

00:35:28.000 kind of repeats.

00:35:29.000 Yeah, like one more time.

00:35:32.000 It's not a super long song.

00:35:34.000 It's only four and a half minutes.

00:35:36.000 Four and a half, that seems long.

00:35:37.000 That's a long song.

00:35:38.000 That's not short.

00:35:40.000 You know, I have one other song I think we're gonna consider releasing on Trash House Records coming up.

00:35:44.000 It's called Frequent Measure.

00:35:46.000 What's a cover we could do?

00:35:47.000 Do something easy.

00:35:50.000 Do Green Day.

00:35:53.000 She, let's sing She by Green Day in honor of Women's Day yesterday.

00:35:57.000 I don't know that one.

00:35:58.000 I don't either.

00:35:58.000 I haven't seen, I haven't listened to that song forever.

00:36:03.000 Just do some Rammstein, something light.

00:36:06.000 Yeah, Du hast. 0.59

00:36:08.000 I know that one.

00:36:09.000 That's a good song.

00:36:09.000 Du riechst so gut.

00:36:12.000 A little Sabaton.

00:36:17.000 What's like a four?

00:36:17.000 Do some like... How's the Rising Sun the easy one like everybody knows?

00:36:20.000 Oh, I used to know how to play Ohio.

00:36:27.000 Journey?

00:36:27.000 No, not Journey.

00:36:29.000 But that's just like four chords.

00:36:30.000 That's like A-F-C-G. 1.00

00:36:31.000 I'm just saying everyone knows it.

00:36:33.000 You can play any pop song with A-F-C-G. 1.00

00:36:36.000 What about Beatles?

00:36:38.000 I used to know a ton of Beatles.

00:36:39.000 I don't know anything.

00:36:41.000 I was playing a crackpot version of Blackbird a moment ago.

00:36:44.000 Black Sabbath singing in the dead of night.

00:36:54.000 But I don't actually know how to play it.

00:36:56.000 I just like, you know, crackpot version.

00:36:58.000 I read tabs once and that was about it.

00:37:01.000 Well, I don't know.

00:37:01.000 If you haven't got any ideas, maybe we just go to bed.

00:37:03.000 Oasis?

00:37:04.000 Oasis?

00:37:04.000 Oh man, I used to know all that stuff!

00:37:06.000 Oasis is like... You know what I used to know?

00:37:08.000 Have you ever seen The Rain?

00:37:09.000 How do you play that one?

00:37:10.000 I love that song.

00:37:12.000 I've recreated songs, but... No, look, I haven't... How do you play... Have you ever... Someone told me long ago... Yeah, that one's great.

00:37:19.000 That one's really easy.

00:37:20.000 How do you play that one?

00:37:20.000 Yeah, it is.

00:37:21.000 It's like, walks down...

00:37:23.000 I can't remember the last time I sat down to learn someone else's music.

00:37:29.000 Kid songs for me.

00:37:30.000 It's how easy it is.

00:37:31.000 Like kid songs and like Christmas songs.

00:37:34.000 So long ago, there's a calm before the storm.

00:37:41.000 And I know, we've been coming for some time.

00:37:50.000 When it's over, so they say, it'll rain a sunny day.

00:37:57.000 And I know, shining down like water.

00:38:04.000 I wanna know, have you ever seen the rain?

00:38:15.000 And I want to know, have you ever seen the rain?

00:38:21.000 The rain, the rain, the rain, the rain.

00:38:23.000 Coming down on a sunny day.

00:38:27.000 What's the name of the song?

00:38:29.000 Have you ever seen the rain?

00:38:30.000 Have you ever seen the rain?

00:38:31.000 You know it, right?

00:38:32.000 I don't know it.

00:38:33.000 I know all of it.

00:38:33.000 John Fogerty.

00:38:34.000 CCR.

00:38:34.000 Yeah.

00:38:35.000 Wonderful.

00:38:36.000 Yesterday and days before.

00:38:40.000 The sun is cold, the rain is hot.

00:38:43.000 And I know.

00:38:46.000 Been that way for all my time Till forever on it goes

00:38:56.000 In a circle fast and slow And I know

00:39:01.000 It can't stop, I wonder I wanna know

00:39:12.000 Have you ever seen the rain?

00:39:16.000 I wanna know Have you ever seen the rain, rain, rain, rain, rain

00:39:26.000 coming down on a sunny day?

00:39:29.000 Boop.

00:39:34.000 All right.

00:39:35.000 Well, that was fun.

00:39:36.000 That was fun.

00:39:37.000 Oh, no.

00:39:37.000 Ah!

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:38.000 He always has that.

00:39:40.000 Like, when you really say it.

00:39:42.000 Has that been your experience?

00:39:44.000 Yeah, it's a big one.

00:39:48.000 But just in general, as a singer, when you're singing, it's less about hitting the notes or making it sound right.

00:39:52.000 It's just about saying what you're saying?

00:39:54.000 No.

00:39:55.000 You find it the opposite or both together?

00:39:56.000 How do you see it?

00:39:58.000 You gotta know where you're going.

00:39:59.000 Well, that's for sure.

00:40:01.000 If your shoes aren't tied, you're gonna trip.

00:40:02.000 No, no.

00:40:04.000 You have to know where you're going.

00:40:06.000 You think so?

00:40:07.000 Yes.

00:40:07.000 When you say, shoes aren't tied, you're talking about how you're starting to get there.

00:40:12.000 You have to know where you're going.

00:40:14.000 You have to know where the note is.

00:40:16.000 You don't have to have perfect pitch.

00:40:20.000 But you have to have good relative pitch, so you have to hear the other notes that are going on around you in the song, and you have to know where you're going to.

00:40:27.000 So once you know, then when you're singing it, I used to be all technical.

00:40:31.000 I'm like, I gotta hit the note how I think it sounds, and then I realized, no, I gotta say the words like I think they mean, and when you do that in the notes, It's two different, well you got, there's three things that, when I'm in the box and I'm doing stuff, there's three things that producers tell me.

00:40:46.000 They're gonna tell me I don't believe it, which means I'm not performing it well, my timing, or my notes.

00:40:53.000 So either I don't believe it, pitch, or timing.

00:40:56.000 That's the only thing that they say.

00:40:58.000 Like, I'll do a line, and the only thing I hear in my ears is the producer go, timing.

00:41:03.000 Because if you're focused too much on your pitch, then you might not believe it.

00:41:07.000 Exactly.

00:41:08.000 But if you're focused too much on believing it, then you might not hear it. 0.99

00:41:12.000 I was too much on believing it on Earthbound, but my speed was completely fucked. 0.98

00:41:17.000 It was all over the place. 0.96

00:41:18.000 That's a plague to my entire career.

00:41:20.000 So those are the three things you need to make sure.

00:41:20.000 You have to be in time, you have to have the right pitch, and then you also have to perform it.

00:41:25.000 So if you're hitting the notes, but you're doing, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,

00:41:33.000 na, it's like you're not performing unless you're giving it.

00:41:37.000 So those are the three things you need.

00:41:38.000 Come on, Phil, what do you know about recording music? 0.99

00:41:40.000 Not a goddamn thing! 0.98

00:41:42.000 Do you ever record multiple microphones at the same time? 0.99

00:41:45.000 No.

00:41:46.000 One at a time, do it over, and then there's this program called VocalLine that we use.

00:41:51.000 Do you know Country Roads, Take Me Home?

00:41:52.000 Country roads, take me home.

00:41:56.000 I was going to suggest that by the way.

00:42:00.000 I don't know the beginning.

00:42:04.000 West Virginia, mountain mama.

00:42:10.000 Take me home.

00:42:13.000 Country roads.

00:42:16.000 Country roads.

00:42:19.000 Take me home.

00:42:21.000 To the place where I belong.

00:42:27.000 West Virginia.

00:42:30.000 Mountain mama.

00:42:33.000 Take me home.

00:42:36.000 Country roads.

00:42:41.000 That's another one.

00:42:43.000 I don't know the verse.

00:42:44.000 We only know the chorus.

00:42:45.000 I don't know how the rest goes.

00:42:50.000 West Virginia.

00:42:52.000 Blue Ridge Mountains.

00:42:55.000 Shenandoah River.

00:42:58.000 Life is old there.

00:43:00.000 Wait, wait.

00:43:01.000 Scroll down on me.

00:43:02.000 Life is old.

00:43:04.000 There, oh there, older than the trees, younger than the mountains, growing like a breeze.

00:43:15.000 Country roads, take me home, to the place I belong.

00:43:26.000 West Virginia, mountain mama, take me home, country roads.

00:43:40.000 I don't know how to sing the verse.

00:43:44.000 I don't know how the verse goes.

00:43:45.000 The bridge is... I don't know what the chords are on the bridge.

00:43:49.000 There's just the chorus?

00:43:50.000 Oh yeah, you got it.

00:43:51.000 In the morning hour she calls me, radio reminds me of my home far away.

00:43:57.000 Do be do do.

00:43:58.000 Oh yeah, you got it.

00:43:59.000 Do do do do do.

00:44:00.000 You don't know this album.

00:44:01.000 Yesterday, yesterday, take me home.

00:44:06.000 They say he was going over the cartoon kiddie mountains, a soul coupling pedal and his funny he was kinting.

00:44:11.000 I first pushed my pistol, and then pushed my rapier.

00:44:14.000 I said, send a deliverer for the devil, I may see Beryl more showering. 1.00

00:44:17.000 There's whisky in the jar.

00:44:23.000 Well, there was like a good 20 seconds and it sounded really awesome with all of us singing.

00:44:26.000 Yeah, it was good.

00:44:27.000 It was good.

00:44:28.000 It was like a thing.

00:44:29.000 All right.

00:44:29.000 Uh, how about we wrap it up, I guess.

00:44:32.000 So this was a special birthday wrap up sing along that we all got to participate in.

00:44:35.000 So happy Wednesday.

00:44:37.000 I sang, I sang happy birthday to Tim in Chinese.

00:44:39.000 He did.

00:44:40.000 It was really great.

00:44:40.000 Yeah.

00:44:41.000 We got to do Chinese country roads.

00:44:42.000 That'd be great.

00:44:45.000 All right, Jack, thanks for hanging out.

00:44:46.000 Libby, thanks for hanging out.

00:44:48.000 Yeah, it's been a blast.

00:44:49.000 And for everybody who's a member, thanks for hanging out on my birthday and listening to us play some music.

00:44:55.000 And I thought that was something that was pretty awesome.

00:44:56.000 We should do something like that later on.

00:44:58.000 Maybe we should actually, like, learn a song that everyone can sing along to.

00:45:01.000 Rehearse it before I come on live.

00:45:03.000 And I'll learn them.

00:45:04.000 But, like, if we could actually play Country Roads well and everyone sang along to it, that sounds pretty good.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - March 12, 2023

Sunday Uncensored: Jack Posobiec & Libby Emmons Members Only Podcast

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