Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Reps Matt Gaetz And Dan Bishop Join To EXPOSE J6 Breaking news w-Steve Bannon

00:00:00.000 You How's it going everybody

00:00:24.000 We are once again at the Capitol, basically.

00:00:28.000 We got a lot of news to talk about, but we're going straight to the source to figure out what's going on.

00:00:31.000 Over this past week, we got a lot of information about January 6th, and I think some of the most interesting and most important revelations, maybe even in our generation when it comes to government malfeasance and politics, is that FBI agents were apparently trying to or may have actually deleted evidence in a January 6th or multiple January 6th cases This information comes out, apparently implicating that some feds were actually involved in trying to obfuscate their involvement by requesting the removal of their name from evidence.

00:01:01.000 This is freaky stuff.

00:01:02.000 So we're gonna talk about that.

00:01:03.000 We got a bunch of other stories that may or may not come up.

00:01:05.000 I saw a viral tweet where, on The View, Jane Fonda alludes to murdering people who are pro-life in a rather shocking statement, and then immediately everyone starts laughing, saying, oh, it's a joke, it's a joke.

00:01:15.000 And then she gives this look like, Yeah, I don't know if they're joking, and that's kind of freaky.

00:01:19.000 I don't want to be hyperbolic, but considering everything we've seen, it's been getting pretty crazy.

00:01:24.000 So we're going to have an awesome show.

00:01:26.000 We have a bunch of guests coming in.

00:01:27.000 We're literally sitting in Matt Gaetz's office.

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00:01:54.000 we're going to have some breaking news tonight.

00:01:56.000 Joining us tonight first is Rep. Matt Gaetz.

00:01:59.000 Welcome to Capitol Hill.

00:02:01.000 We're in the Rayburn office building, and I'm loving TimCast on the road, because having to go out into the survival situation that is the trek to your usual headquarters is treacherous.

00:02:13.000 But this is great, man.

00:02:15.000 We've enjoyed having your team here in the office.

00:02:18.000 And I got an opening take, because having come on your show a couple times now, Like, there are the people who see me in the news... Sorry, I gotta pause you.

00:02:28.000 We're a little low on volume, Serge.

00:02:29.000 Yep, I'm trying to work on it right now.

00:02:32.000 All right, well, let's just roll with it, because it is what it is.

00:02:34.000 Sorry, continue.

00:02:34.000 No problem.

00:02:35.000 The benefits of a live show.

00:02:36.000 There are people who see me in the news, and they'll come and say, oh, you know, we saw you on Fox, or saw you on CNN, or whatever.

00:02:42.000 But the people who have come to me to say they see me on TimCast, it's like we're having a secret handshake.

00:02:49.000 There is an intimacy to it.

00:02:51.000 There's a like, I know we have a connection because I was watching you on Timcast.

00:02:56.000 So know that there's a community, there's a sense of community out there that goes beyond normal media that frankly you probably couldn't develop on traditional media these days.

00:03:05.000 And I think one of the cutting edge advantage is of a platform like this is that people, when they tune in, when they're a part of the discussion, when they feel like they're at the head of the table with us, then We've done something real.

00:03:17.000 So, uh, I think we lost sound.

00:03:19.000 Completely.

00:03:21.000 Yeah, audio's gone.

00:03:24.000 Totally gone.

00:03:26.000 No, no, it's totally gone, bro.

00:03:28.000 Can you hear me?

00:03:29.000 Live.

00:03:30.000 What's happening?

00:03:32.000 So we brought a custom soundboard and everything.

00:03:36.000 We got it set up.

00:03:37.000 Everything was working just fine.

00:03:38.000 And then like a half an hour out, for some reason, we have no idea why, it just stopped.

00:03:42.000 Oh, they can hear me.

00:03:43.000 We're good?

00:03:44.000 But it's, it's, okay, cool.

00:03:46.000 People are saying it's distorted and low, but low.

00:03:48.000 Sounds better than the view.

00:03:50.000 Yeah.

00:03:53.000 Well, I can see the mixer picking it up and there's like nothing there.

00:03:56.000 It's like minus 50 dB.

00:03:59.000 Yeah, yeah, but it's... I'm listening to it on YouTube right now.

00:04:04.000 Tell us in the chat.

00:04:05.000 I like the wide shot.

00:04:07.000 It's pretty bad.

00:04:09.000 No idea.

00:04:09.000 Maybe we should have just used your setup.

00:04:12.000 I got a rig.

00:04:13.000 Yeah.

00:04:13.000 Our custom rig doesn't seem to be working.

00:04:14.000 It sounds like the distortion's cranked up like it's an electric guitar.

00:04:17.000 I don't know if it's just the amount of time we spend talking or if it's like, I don't know, maybe it's just real people make real community.

00:04:25.000 But I like that vibe.

00:04:27.000 It is.

00:04:27.000 And the cross section of people, like we talked last time, white collar, blue collar, no collar, no shoes.

00:04:36.000 Yeah, no collar.

00:04:37.000 No collar's just fine.

00:04:38.000 All the above.

00:04:39.000 You're from Florida?

00:04:40.000 Yeah, oh, I mean, the jean shorts and Crocs is basically the Florida man uniform.

00:04:46.000 Before we get too deep into this, let me just introduce myself.

00:04:48.000 I'm Ian Cross, and if you don't know me, now you do.

00:04:50.000 What's happening?

00:04:51.000 And also, we have Phil Labonte to my right.

00:04:54.000 How you doing?

00:04:54.000 Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist, counter-revolutionary.

00:04:59.000 And we're going to have Rep.

00:05:00.000 Dan Bishop and I believe Steve Bannon joining us later tonight.

00:05:03.000 That's right.

00:05:05.000 What an all-star panel, man.

00:05:06.000 We got Bishop, we got Bannon.

00:05:08.000 It's going to be great.

00:05:10.000 Well, let's talk about the first thing.

00:05:11.000 There's a lot of news.

00:05:12.000 I mean, the Silicon Valley Bank stuff is pretty crazy.

00:05:15.000 But I think I want to talk to you about what's going on with January 6 because I think it was a year ago You mentioned federal involvement in, I'll just put it simply, in some capacity.

00:05:26.000 I think you were a bit more direct.

00:05:27.000 But now we have this story where apparently they tried, I think they may have actually literally destroyed evidence.

00:05:33.000 There's communications where they said, I was instructed to destroy 338 pieces of evidence.

00:05:39.000 In one communication even said, remove my, remove the agent's name from this, from this document as present at one of these incidents.

00:05:46.000 That to me sounds like they're trying to destroy or may have literally destroyed evidence of their involvement as it pertains to the seditious conspiracy charges.

00:05:54.000 I've been involved in taking the transcribed interviews of several FBI whistleblowers from around the country and a substantial amount of the testimony that they've given us deals with the treatment of people who were unfairly targeted as domestic extremists or somehow associated with January 6th when in fact in a great number of these cases there was no predicate criminal act to even investigate No evidence that people had committed crimes.

00:06:22.000 So I normally wouldn't go into evidence in the middle of an ongoing investigation, but something interesting happened.

00:06:29.000 As these FBI whistleblowers came in, the Democrats would release out-of-context portions of their depots and then would do opposition research on the whistleblowers and blast that out in reports to try to discredit the work before we could even begin it.

00:06:48.000 Since they've done that, we feel like we need to vindicate the stories of these people who've come forward, because think about the deterrent effect.

00:06:55.000 If every time a whistleblower comes forward to share evidence of FBI misconduct, their family gets smeared, their spouse gets fired, they're targeted, their financial situation degrades, they can't get jobs, And so they're trying to discourage the truth from coming out.

00:07:13.000 And that's why, recently at CPAC, I called to remove the Democrats from the transcribed interviews.

00:07:20.000 If their involvement in the investigation is going to be to harm the investigation, they shouldn't even be included.

00:07:26.000 And if you look at what happened during the January 6th investigation, it wasn't like anybody who had an opposing view was in the room.

00:07:33.000 The Republicans, they counted, were Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney.

00:07:37.000 And so I think that that's an initial step, but it wouldn't surprise me.

00:07:42.000 We saw an FBI lawyer change evidence before a secret court, and that guy had pled guilty to a crime and now has his law license back.

00:07:50.000 Can you believe that?

00:07:51.000 I mean, think about the message that sends.

00:07:54.000 So the FBI patriots who step forward and say, you know what?

00:07:58.000 I'm being asked to do weird and possibly unlawful things to people who you're claiming are some sort of insurrectionists because of January 6th, and we put those folks on no-fly lists, we ruined their lives, and then at the same time, someone who literally admitted to changing evidence To try to implicate someone close to Trump, to get surveillance on the Trump campaign.

00:08:21.000 That guy can practice law in D.C.

00:08:23.000 this week.

00:08:24.000 You see Elon Musk just tweeted, effectively saying, free Jacob Chansley.

00:08:29.000 They posted the video of him being escorted through the building.

00:08:32.000 I'm wondering what are your thoughts on that the video release from Tucker Carlson?

00:08:35.000 I don't know everything that that guy did but what I saw there was a very confusing situation that really is indicative of like the fog of war where people don't really know what's going on the sense of a rules-based order kind of changes.

00:08:52.000 I think there were a lot of people And again, I don't know everything Chansley did.

00:08:56.000 I don't know if there's going to be a different feature to his involvement that day, but that conduct did not appear to be criminal or violent or worthy of the type of extended prison sentence.

00:09:11.000 Even if it's a technical violation of federal criminal law, prosecuting that, putting someone in prison just for those portions that we saw on Tucker seemed itself not to be justifiable.

00:09:21.000 Elon Musk tweeted a video of him standing outside with a bullhorn saying, everyone leave, go home.

00:09:26.000 Trump says go home.

00:09:27.000 He doesn't want you here.

00:09:28.000 And they're yelling at him, no, no, we're coming.

00:09:30.000 So not only do you have this guy being escorted through the building, it appears, and the cops even try to open the doors for him at one point, bring him to an open door for the Senate chamber.

00:09:37.000 He's actually on video telling people to leave.

00:09:38.000 Well, here's the problem.

00:09:40.000 In his plea deal, he has signed away all his rights of appeal.

00:09:44.000 So he doesn't even have the ability to open the courthouse gates to be able to have a resolution of those questions.

00:09:51.000 Any honorable and reasonable prosecutor would make their own motion And would make it along with the defense if necessary to set aside that plea deal and to be able to evaluate the extent of criminal acuity.

00:10:07.000 That is what a moral prosecutor would do.

00:10:09.000 They would not be drug into court by the defense lawyer.

00:10:12.000 They would actually go and make the motion themselves.

00:10:16.000 What I have seen come out of the DOJ and the Washington field office of the FBI is that this place is the geography of rot.

00:10:25.000 There is not political capture of the FBI in every corner of this country.

00:10:30.000 It is New York, it is Washington, D.C., principally.

00:10:33.000 And that's why what Nancy Pelosi did, authorizing the funding of a new FBI headquarters 0.99

00:10:40.000 in the greater Washington area, larger than the Pentagon, is something that should concern you

00:10:46.000 more than re-changing the carpets at the J. Edgar Hoover building.

00:10:52.000 Frankly, I think a lot of these folks deserve to sit at the rat-infested J. Edgar Hoover

00:10:56.000 building as long as necessary.

00:10:58.000 But we certainly shouldn't be building the FBI a Pentagon-sized facility to insource,

00:11:05.000 to the most corrupt geography in the world, more of the work that actually would be legitimate to

00:11:11.000 protect the American people that a lot of good folks are doing.

00:11:13.000 Where is this building is the first I've heard of it?

00:11:15.000 Oh, it's in, well, it's authorized and funded in the big omnibus legislation that Nancy Pelosi, the $1.7 trillion in spending that we talked about last time we were on the show, part of that was this massive facility for the FBI and it's going to be out in Northern Virginia.

00:11:32.000 But right here within the Northern Virginia, Maryland, D.C.

00:11:37.000 Did they tell you what it's going to look like?

00:11:37.000 swamp.

00:11:38.000 Is it going to be a fortress?

00:11:40.000 I don't care if it looks like, you know, the Taj Mahal.

00:11:47.000 I don't want to see that many billets here. 1.00

00:11:50.000 I don't.

00:11:52.000 I think that people – we saw inspector general reports of people in the media taking these FBI agents out for tickets at sporting events, concerts, fancy meals in exchange for information, and that's just a way to smear people.

00:12:11.000 I heard someone talking about the FBI and they had mentioned that the role of the FBI had gone from, and this was someone at one of the hearings, that the FBI's role had gone from being a law enforcement agency to being an intelligence agency.

00:12:27.000 So that was the post 9-11 thing.

00:12:30.000 That's a very astute observation because pre 9-11 the job of the FBI was to investigate these crimes that had occurred that had a multi-state feature to them that one jurisdiction couldn't handle with a higher degree of scale on technology and innovation to be able to solve those crimes and to bring prosecutions.

00:12:50.000 After 9-11, Bush goes to Comey and basically says, it's not enough to investigate crimes and bring prosecutions.

00:12:59.000 We have to go and be predictive.

00:13:01.000 We have to go and be an intelligence organization to stop things from happening in the future.

00:13:06.000 And that resulted in a culture shift that a lot of the old-timers, the kind of Joe Friday types, resented.

00:13:16.000 How do we?

00:13:18.000 So what do you do?

00:13:18.000 So how do you get the, because the whole culture there is of, if it's of an intelligence gathering agency, that means that the target is the American people.

00:13:28.000 It's the only target the FBI could have.

00:13:30.000 So then how do you change the culture? 0.80

00:13:33.000 I mean, personally I'm for tearing the whole goddamn thing apart, but like, what do you do, you know, what do you do?

00:13:41.000 To begin the process of trying to change the mindset of the FBI at the top level, because it can't, it's not going to happen if it's, because you're talking about field offices, it's not going to happen just at field offices. 0.72

00:13:53.000 It has to be, you know, the people that are working at the, at the, at the J. Edgar Hooper building, you know, so what do you do?

00:13:59.000 I think decentralizing the human resources would have a forcing function of decentralizing some of the power. 0.94

00:14:06.000 And frankly, where they have authorities, where they've used them time and again to institute political enforcement, we need to curtail those authorities.

00:14:15.000 The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act 702 authority has caught a number of Americans in a dragnet.

00:14:23.000 That doesn't end run around our Constitution.

00:14:26.000 And so that is an authority that I think needs to be curtailed.

00:14:31.000 They have a foreign influence task force.

00:14:37.000 And what I've observed is that this foreign influence task force operated for the Bidens a lot like they said the plumbers operated for Richard Nixon.

00:14:47.000 Remember they would refer to the plumbers during Watergate?

00:14:49.000 No, who were they?

00:14:50.000 He's old enough to remember.

00:14:54.000 And when you've got folks whose job it is to go find the derogatory information about you and to extinguish it, and when those people are wearing FBI badges and can arrest people and coerce people, it's a concerning thing.

00:15:10.000 That is going to be central to a lot of the investigative work we do over these two years.

00:15:14.000 Those specific folks, not all of them still work for the federal government, so they can be subject to congressional subpoena a little easier.

00:15:21.000 Does it take the Republicans, and the populist Republicans in particular, controlling the Senate, the House, and the Presidency, to think that anything can get done?

00:15:32.000 On some things, that's the case.

00:15:34.000 I was particularly thinking about the MPI here.

00:15:37.000 They're telling me to back off the mic.

00:15:39.000 I'm the back off, bro!

00:15:40.000 No, that's not the issue.

00:15:41.000 So basically what happened was the soundboard just randomly stopped working.

00:15:48.000 I blame the Deep State, honestly.

00:15:49.000 They must have come in and somehow got it.

00:15:52.000 Everything was set up and it was working.

00:15:53.000 We were just sitting waiting.

00:15:54.000 And then around like 7.30 all of a sudden we're watching the soundboard just go off.

00:15:58.000 And so we're like, okay, we have no idea what happened.

00:16:00.000 So then we did this duct tape solution and it worked.

00:16:03.000 We did a sound check, then we go live and all of a sudden it just dropped again.

00:16:06.000 And we're like, the gain sounds way too high.

00:16:09.000 But it's not, the gain's not even up.

00:16:12.000 The board may be failing in real time, maybe that's it.

00:16:15.000 I have no idea.

00:16:18.000 I'm not the kind of guy that's like, cut the head off the thing, repeal the Federal Reserve Act, repeal Obama, repeal the Patriot Act.

00:16:29.000 I would like those things to be repealed.

00:16:30.000 I just feel like trying to slice it open is just going to kill everything.

00:16:34.000 I would reject that premise.

00:16:38.000 I think that you actually have to slice it open, and I think that you've got to go through the authorized and unauthorized activities programmatically, and you have to observe what is the really important stuff, and there is that.

00:16:56.000 There are cybercrime divisions at the FBI that get people's money back for them when they're the victims of some Chinese phishing attack in their email.

00:17:07.000 Those people are patriotic Americans.

00:17:10.000 The problem is an increasing amount of this intelligence gathering Got weaponized politically.

00:17:17.000 And frankly, you go back to the founding of the FBI, they were pretty political.

00:17:21.000 They were just going after leftists.

00:17:23.000 They were going after Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr.

00:17:26.000 and Marcus Garvey.

00:17:28.000 And when Obama was president, they did a terrific job of vertically integrating their HR.

00:17:34.000 And they got a lot of talented, activist leftists.

00:17:38.000 Into the system, into middle management, and now those people are kind of running the place.

00:17:43.000 I think the audio is fixed.

00:17:44.000 Oh good.

00:17:45.000 Mostly at least.

00:17:47.000 What?

00:17:47.000 It's a capital hill miracle.

00:17:49.000 Way better.

00:17:50.000 way better.

00:17:51.000 I'm just taking your time, I'm sorry.

00:17:52.000 I want, I was like, how does, you know, whatever.

00:17:54.000 How do you define leftists?

00:17:56.000 Well, I think that those who believe in government control as opposed to those who believe in

00:18:03.000 control democratized among the people.

00:18:06.000 That's always what my dad told me about the difference between the right and the left.

00:18:10.000 He said, son, the left believes in the power of government to solve people's problems, and we believe in the power of people to solve their own problems.

00:18:19.000 I think that like at the political compass, there's the left and the right, and then there's the authoritarian and the libertarian.

00:18:25.000 And I feel like the authoritarian, like so up on the political compass, is like, I want the government to take care of it.

00:18:30.000 But I could be like a leftist libertarian, where I'm like, do whatever you want.

00:18:34.000 Smoke weed, too.

00:18:36.000 Where are those people?

00:18:37.000 That's like the Glenn Greenwalds, right?

00:18:39.000 Would you put him?

00:18:39.000 I think so.

00:18:41.000 He's a traditional liberal, where they used to be a center left.

00:18:43.000 That's essentially what you're describing, like a classical liberal who believes in open flow of information, free exchange of ideas.

00:18:50.000 The reason left libertarians are so rare is because the best way to describe a left libertarian is a hippie on a farm.

00:18:57.000 He and his friends are sitting around and then he comes in one day and he's like, hey guys, I grew some watermelons.

00:19:02.000 And they're like, yeah.

00:19:02.000 Do you want to share them?

00:19:03.000 And they break it and share it.

00:19:04.000 And they're like, anybody can come and go as they please.

00:19:06.000 We all here and we all work together.

00:19:08.000 And it only really works when you have a group of people who are socially cohesive and morally cohesive.

00:19:13.000 It doesn't scale up at all, so there's no large, organizational left libertarianism.

00:19:16.000 It's not possible.

00:19:18.000 The right finds their decentral... Right libertarianism finds it through capital, through trade.

00:19:23.000 They agree, don't hurt me, I won't hurt you.

00:19:24.000 Everything's gonna be voluntary trade.

00:19:26.000 But if you're gonna do community-oriented stuff, it has to be through moral agreement, which is almost impossible, and only really works when you have, like, 20 people.

00:19:34.000 So you're not gonna see a lot of them.

00:19:35.000 Do you think, like, libertarianism only functions if the society's cohesive in general?

00:19:40.000 I'll put it this way, and a question for you, Matt, maybe you agree.

00:19:44.000 I believe that if every... I'll be as offensive as I can about it for the atheists on the left. 1.00

00:19:49.000 I believe that if every single person in this country was a devout Christian, church-going, God-fearing, you would need no laws and no police. 0.99

00:19:57.000 You would have them already.

00:19:59.000 And the people would believe in adherence to those laws in the absence of government because they would believe in that which is stronger, more powerful, and above government.

00:20:07.000 And then what happens is as you get... By the way, that essentially was the government in the founding days of American life.

00:20:16.000 James Madison said the same thing.

00:20:19.000 But I'm not saying literally we should be a Christian theocracy in any way.

00:20:23.000 I try to say that in the most shocking way to the atheists as possible. 1.00

00:20:25.000 If every single person in this country was woke, you also would not need police because you'd have woke activists going around enforcing these things by choice without pay.

00:20:33.000 There wasn't a lot of freedom in the Chaz. 0.99

00:20:36.000 That's right.

00:20:37.000 Some people died.

00:20:38.000 They had the freedom to do that, apparently, and then no accountability.

00:20:41.000 But when you get a group of people that all agree with the same thing, instantly the moral foundations kick in.

00:20:46.000 The problem is it doesn't scale up.

00:20:48.000 So you end up needing some kind of law enforcement apparatus.

00:20:51.000 Then you need police.

00:20:52.000 Then you need jails.

00:20:53.000 And as you bring in more opposing moral ideologies, you will need more police.

00:20:59.000 As your society grows bigger, you will need more laws.

00:21:01.000 And then I think it eventually just implodes.

00:21:03.000 Well, no, no, you got this all wrong because the Silicon Valley Bank says that the way to success is a commitment to increasing racial, ethnic, and gender representation.

00:21:14.000 Ah, cool.

00:21:14.000 That worked out really well for them.

00:21:16.000 Yeah, I mean, this is a message from their CEO on their website, and you can actually go download their DEI reports.

00:21:23.000 So that you can see how focused and committed they are to DEI investments.

00:21:27.000 And you can go and see all that they're doing to achieve their carbon neutrality by 2025, which is very likely at this point.

00:21:34.000 I would bet on the Silicon Valley Bank achieving total carbon neutrality very soon.

00:21:40.000 So way to go!

00:21:42.000 For the record, SVB is in a financial freefall.

00:21:44.000 It's a bank in California that just went under, essentially.

00:21:48.000 It is more than that.

00:21:49.000 It is the financial wing of Silicon Valley.

00:21:53.000 This is a top 20 bank in the country, and over 96% of all the deposits aren't insured.

00:22:03.000 How familiar are you with the topic?

00:22:04.000 Yeah, they're not insured?

00:22:07.000 Because the deposits are among all these Silicon Valley firms and individuals and businesses, they are not insured.

00:22:19.000 They don't have the FDIC.

00:22:20.000 Over 90% of the money in that bank isn't coming back.

00:22:25.000 But it's not just that.

00:22:26.000 FDIC only insures up to, I think, $250 per signatory.

00:22:31.000 So if you're one person, this is the craziest thing, if you're in your business with one bank, you're in trouble.

00:22:37.000 Because if you've got five accounts, let's say one is your general payroll expenses, one is equipment and you separate them in a certain way.

00:22:48.000 That's it.

00:22:48.000 It's only 250.

00:22:50.000 So, if that bank goes under, your business no longer exists and they're going to cut you out a quarter million dollars.

00:22:55.000 Depending on the size, obviously, but I'm saying if you're Silicon Valley and you got 15 to 50 million, All gone.

00:23:01.000 All gone.

00:23:03.000 The calls for the Silicon Valley Bank bailouts will be coming soon.

00:23:09.000 Already.

00:23:10.000 Andrew Yang has called for the federal government to backstop Silicon Valley Bank to save the industry.

00:23:14.000 Yang already.

00:23:15.000 Where would we be if the CEO wasn't so focused on diversity, equity, inclusion, and ESG?

00:23:21.000 Who's going to fund this if not the American taxpayer?

00:23:24.000 Let me step out.

00:23:25.000 Ian can pop out.

00:23:28.000 We gotta have both of you guys talk about January 6th, man.

00:23:30.000 Yeah, yeah, I'll step out.

00:23:31.000 You want to step out for a minute and then I'll try to get back to you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

00:23:34.000 no. Tim, you guys... He's the authority. No, he wants to step out. All right. I'll be back. He'll be back. What's up,

00:23:41.000 dude? Yeah, hop on in, man. Yes, good to see you. Do you want to introduce yourself for everybody who's listening?

00:23:48.000 Yeah, I'm Dan Bishop. I represent 8th District from North Carolina. Right on. So... Nice. Good to see you. Good to

00:23:55.000 see you, man. We got some news on January 6th or we want to wait for Matt to come back?

00:23:55.000 I'm good.

00:23:56.000 I think, you know, nobody replaces Matt Gaetz.

00:24:00.000 No, I guess he just did.

00:24:01.000 He's a firebrand.

00:24:01.000 What happened?

00:24:02.000 That's what I was going to say.

00:24:03.000 Only Tim Kast and firebrand would have kept me in Washington for another night.

00:24:06.000 Oh, right on, man.

00:24:08.000 I appreciate it.

00:24:09.000 Matt was saying that everybody, the final vote was like 10 a.m., so everybody flew home.

00:24:15.000 Yeah.

00:24:15.000 But he was like, but Dan was down.

00:24:16.000 He didn't want to leave.

00:24:17.000 We're doing some work.

00:24:18.000 So what'd you guys do today?

00:24:20.000 You know, we've been, we went over, gosh, you know, Matt can describe this so much better than I can, but we went over to This other nondescript building where the congressional offices have space, and we kind of rifle through the January 6th committee documents.

00:24:37.000 I'm going to step out, Matt.

00:24:38.000 I want you and Matt to talk about this a little bit.

00:24:40.000 Matt can tell us.

00:24:41.000 Matt's back.

00:24:42.000 Come on, Matt.

00:24:43.000 Can you get around behind me?

00:24:44.000 I got you, brother.

00:24:47.000 So you've got some secrets, some breaking news?

00:24:50.000 Well, here's the news we've got for you, okay?

00:24:54.000 Everyone has been appropriately focused on these videos that Tucker Carlson's been releasing from January 6th, but Dan and I got to thinking.

00:25:03.000 There was a lot of paper created during this investigation.

00:25:06.000 The subpoenas, the demands for records.

00:25:09.000 It showcases the strategy of how the January 6th Committee would go after a target.

00:25:14.000 Who was working with them?

00:25:15.000 Who did they hire to collaborate on this project?

00:25:19.000 It's about two million documents.

00:25:21.000 And I think, as far as I know, Dan and I are the first Republican lawmakers to actually go and spend an extended period of time Going through this information.

00:25:32.000 And here's what we can tell you about it.

00:25:34.000 It's not disorganized.

00:25:36.000 I kind of expected on the way out the door Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger might have just opened their binders and thrown everything into a giant bin, shaken it a few times and said, here are your documents.

00:25:47.000 And you know what?

00:25:48.000 This will drive you crazy.

00:25:50.000 Every committee in Congress gets to define what a committee record is and what has to be maintained.

00:25:57.000 So if they wanted to, the January 6th committee could have said, you know what, the committee records are the public transcripts of our hearings, and everything else we're destroying, and we would have had no paper trail.

00:26:08.000 But interestingly enough, they kept not all, but Almost all of the outgoing paperwork product that they had developed, the letters that they'd sent people, the documents they'd requested, the subpoenas they drafted, so all this outgoing, the way that they would target not just you,

00:26:28.000 But your internet service provider.

00:26:30.000 They'd go to your telecom company, Verizon.

00:26:32.000 They'd go to your bank.

00:26:34.000 And we saw enormous collaboration between some of these Fortune 100 companies, financial institutions, Alphabet, and the January 6th Committee, eager to turn over the private information of individuals.

00:26:47.000 Are these digital files?

00:26:49.000 These were hard paper files that we observed.

00:26:52.000 What do you mean?

00:26:54.000 You're manually turning pages?

00:26:56.000 Absolutely.

00:26:59.000 80 sort of small boxes of stuff and some of it's public reports that Matt made mention of, but there's some interesting stuff in there.

00:27:08.000 Here's what's missing.

00:27:09.000 What's missing is all the paper that was supposed to come back.

00:27:13.000 You see, all this outgoing was supposed to generate lists of people's emails, texts, and we were able to review some of what came back as a consequence of those results, but there is a huge dearth there.

00:27:23.000 They chose to get rid of some of those records and some others we're going to chat about.

00:27:27.000 I'd be interested, obviously I have a personal stake, but how they discuss the media, independent media that have been talking about it.

00:27:36.000 For me, it was Raskin, who it's funny because he reps the district right next to where we work out of and some of our employees are in his district.

00:27:45.000 and he took a clip of me reading a Fox News headline and played it alongside someone calling

00:27:51.000 for kicking in the doors or a red wedding. 0.81

00:27:53.000 And it's me being like, Donald Trump says there's going to be a wild night.

00:27:56.000 Well, you know, maybe he's right.

00:27:57.000 I mean, his supporters are pretty angry.

00:27:59.000 And then he makes it seem as he says these people were calling for it.

00:28:02.000 I'm curious to see if behind the scenes they were targeting independent commentators, social

00:28:06.000 media personalities.

00:28:07.000 I assume the answer is yes.

00:28:08.000 They are the masters of the smear.

00:28:11.000 Oh yeah.

00:28:11.000 They always get their man that way.

00:28:15.000 There's some interesting, Matt sort of alluded to it, there are interesting pointers in the papers that we saw to finding some other stuff.

00:28:23.000 It could be the mother lode.

00:28:24.000 Well, another thing I learned going through the January 6th Committee's work product is that there is a value at times to a subpoena even if you aren't seeking information back as a result of that subpoena.

00:28:37.000 An example is how they dealt with social media companies.

00:28:41.000 Imagine being a social media company and getting a subpoena and demand saying, Show me everything you're doing to get these extreme views off of your platform.

00:28:50.000 Show me everything you're doing to stop the next insurrection.

00:28:53.000 Show me everything you're doing to look at the profile of people who support building the wall and election integrity and the Second Amendment and let us know that you're actually being good corporate

00:29:04.000 citizens.

00:29:04.000 You see, that's not a subpoena intended to actually get usable information back.

00:29:09.000 It's coercive in nature.

00:29:12.000 And they were using those tactics.

00:29:13.000 And the level of detail and vertically integrated subpoena strategy was exquisite.

00:29:19.000 Let me give you an example, Tim.

00:29:22.000 They subpoenaed the catering company for this building that we are in right now for January 5th and January 6th to see, like, if you had people over on January 5th, how many cupcakes were delivered that night.

00:29:37.000 And what does that say about how many people were in a meeting in your office?

00:29:40.000 So, can you release these documents to the press?

00:29:43.000 Well, we observed them and went through them today with the permission of the House

00:29:49.000 Administration Committee. They are the committee with jurisdiction over the records of the House,

00:29:54.000 and they're working to get this digitized. They have had a very pro-transparency outlook,

00:30:00.000 but we are, our patience is not one of our virtues. We, it's March, and we need to start

00:30:07.000 getting to this information, analyzing it, seeing how Americans were targeted.

00:30:11.000 Dan and I are very focused on our work on the Weaponization Subcommittee.

00:30:15.000 And I believe the January 6th committee was a weaponized utilization of the American government against our people.

00:30:21.000 And actually, it spawned activity from the Department of Justice that I remain

00:30:27.000 concerned about to this day.

00:30:28.000 I'm going to come out and say, I think sometimes you guys, maybe because you have to, give a little bit

00:30:39.000 of the benefit of the doubt to some of your Democrat colleagues.

00:30:41.000 Because you have to, I'd imagine.

00:30:43.000 Me, I'm under no such constraints, and I think they're evil people.

00:30:46.000 Maybe you wouldn't go as far, but the idea that they had access to this footage that wasn't released, that some of these defendants never got access to it, they tried claiming the defendants did, but they didn't, and it shows a very different picture.

00:30:58.000 The fact that Tucker Carlson, in his report, When he came out and showed the video of Chansley calmly walking through with police, trying to open a door for him, the first thing Tucker Carlson did in that report was show the violence, and said, we've all seen the violence and the vandalism because we've been shown it non-stop, but here's what you didn't see.

00:31:15.000 What did the Democrats and the media do in unison right away?

00:31:19.000 Said he cherry-picked.

00:31:20.000 He cherry-picked and he lied, and he didn't show the violence.

00:31:22.000 Because they know their audience will never actually watch a full Tucker segment where he does first and foremost say, yes, there's violence.

00:31:29.000 That's exactly right.

00:31:30.000 I'm sorry, I think it's evil.

00:31:32.000 They've done evil.

00:31:33.000 There's no question about it.

00:31:35.000 If we did that, there would be actions to take our law licenses away in North Carolina and Florida.

00:31:41.000 If we went out there to spur criminal prosecutions and purposefully withheld material evidence, certainly if we did it in a court of law, they distorted evidence.

00:31:50.000 Repeatedly during the course of the January 6th things.

00:31:52.000 I mean, you remember Jim Jordan's tweet where they took it, he had quoted, sent something that was quoted, they took the quotes off and made it as if it were Jim Jordan's statement.

00:32:01.000 There was nothing wrong with the statement particularly anyway, but it put words in his mouth that didn't exist.

00:32:07.000 They did that stuff over and over again.

00:32:09.000 I was thinking of going to Raskin's office after I saw he did this.

00:32:12.000 But you know, I gotta tell you, when he played that clip of me, I had people I know who are urban liberals in Chicago, and it was a red pill moment for them.

00:32:23.000 Because they were like, my parents were watching this, they saw this clip, I saw that, and I immediately was like, that's Tim Pool.

00:32:29.000 They're like, he's like a boring fence-sitter guy. 1.00

00:32:33.000 That's messed up.

00:32:34.000 And it immediately said to them, something's not right with this picture.

00:32:37.000 So all of a sudden I get these liberals that I know being like, I'm not questioning what happened after I saw that.

00:32:43.000 And I actually wrote an op-ed for Newsweek because Newsweek reached out to me and they were like, we're familiar with your content.

00:32:49.000 This doesn't seem to make sense.

00:32:50.000 So that was a mistake.

00:32:51.000 They smeared too hard.

00:32:53.000 And look, I'm personally biased.

00:32:54.000 Isn't your shape that you get accused of being a left-wing radical and a right-wing radical on like a weekly basis?

00:33:01.000 Isn't that kind of your thing?

00:33:02.000 So, in the early days, I'm the milquetoast fence-sitter.

00:33:05.000 That's the gag.

00:33:05.000 I'm like, well, you know, and I still, I put it like this.

00:33:08.000 You're an extreme moderate.

00:33:10.000 You're a moderate rebel.

00:33:11.000 Maybe like all those moderate rebels in Syria we've been giving arms to.

00:33:14.000 I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna say it.

00:33:18.000 Reality has a right-wing bias these days.

00:33:20.000 That's the old joke from Colbert.

00:33:21.000 You know, reality has a left-wing bias.

00:33:23.000 I guess that's what he said all those years ago.

00:33:26.000 The conversation that we're having right now isn't based on our views on policy.

00:33:30.000 I'm not here discussing with you pro-life, pro-choice, tax policy, flat tax, progressive tax.

00:33:34.000 We're talking about the facts of January 6th, information that was withheld.

00:33:39.000 And that makes you right-wing.

00:33:42.000 The funniest thing about this modern political landscape is I'm right-wing because I supported the narrative that conservatives were facing undue censorship on social media, which is so confirmed now that you have the attempt to smear Matt Taibbi as a so-called journalist.

00:34:00.000 Who's this, like, long-standing, liberal, award-winning journalist for 30 years.

00:34:04.000 They're calling Matt Taibbi a right-winger.

00:34:07.000 You've seen people call him a right-wing, you know, journalist.

00:34:11.000 I've seen it.

00:34:12.000 The Democrats attacked him with gusto.

00:34:14.000 Yeah.

00:34:14.000 I mean, that was an embarrassment.

00:34:17.000 To be honest with you, the fact that the Democrats were trying to get the journalists to give up their sources, and trying multiple times, over and over, and honestly, there's part of me that thinks that they didn't realize, as if they didn't possess the cognitive octane to actually understand that they were trying to get them to give up their sources.

00:34:37.000 They didn't understand the context, and it was painful.

00:34:40.000 A couple of them lacked the octane.

00:34:42.000 Yeah, a couple do.

00:34:43.000 There's multiple layers to this, right?

00:34:44.000 The initial layer is you're watching Democrats attack a longtime Rolling Stone journalist and a guy who's waving his hand saying, I voted for Biden.

00:34:56.000 I'm not part of Hillary Clinton's so-called vast right-wing conspiracy.

00:35:01.000 And I think that's easy to absorb, but I think the additional layer to it is how comprehensive the censorship industrial complex is.

00:35:10.000 That's what I really want people to take away from this, that this isn't like, you know, a few bad actors in one agency.

00:35:17.000 This is enterprise-wide in government.

00:35:19.000 The Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, even the Post Office has a covert program to monitor the political views of people on social media.

00:35:33.000 And so we've got to get our head around that.

00:35:36.000 And rather than patting ourselves on the back for holding hearings about it, we have to use this process to inform how we fund the government.

00:35:44.000 And one of the things Dan and I fought really hard for during the Speaker's race was to have individualized assessments of these agencies.

00:35:52.000 And it sounds dorky and wonky, but I am tired of voting on some multi-thousand page bill that spends over a trillion dollars, that funds the government for the entire year, and you don't get to say, okay, at a programmatic level here in DOD, FBI, how do we excise that out?

00:36:08.000 Exactly.

00:36:08.000 There should be line vetoes.

00:36:11.000 What's that?

00:36:11.000 There should be line vetoes.

00:36:12.000 Like, there should be the free.

00:36:13.000 Oh, line item veto?

00:36:14.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:36:15.000 I would enthusiastically support that under a president Republican or Democrat.

00:36:21.000 Yeah.

00:36:21.000 Do you have that in North Carolina?

00:36:23.000 No.

00:36:24.000 They're digitizing the January 6 files.

00:36:28.000 Is there a capability, or is there a security risk?

00:36:31.000 Can this be released to the public?

00:36:34.000 Maybe the answer is more of a Twitter-file style approach where some journalists can come in, go through it with you guys, and then redact for security issues things that might put people in harm's way, but get this information out to the American people.

00:36:46.000 I favor more disclosure across the board.

00:36:49.000 That's one of our biggest problems.

00:36:51.000 You talked about evil, and you talked about Democrats' evil.

00:36:53.000 We're talking about a bigger evil, and this is spread across all these government departments working together with pseudo-academics and so forth that Matt was talking about.

00:37:03.000 But yeah, I think they thrive in secrecy.

00:37:08.000 And that is a general proposition.

00:37:10.000 Can these things all be released?

00:37:11.000 There's some things we saw in there I'm not sure could.

00:37:14.000 A few items.

00:37:15.000 But most of it should be.

00:37:16.000 Why not let you see?

00:37:17.000 You ought to see What this committee of Congress decided they could go do, pick a target, maybe I'll take their name off, but show the bank that, as Matt was saying earlier today, they've picked a target and then they went and figured out all their finances.

00:37:34.000 They went and figured out all their means of communication.

00:37:37.000 They figured out all their means of movement.

00:37:39.000 It is otherworldly.

00:37:41.000 and you can't believe that kind of thing goes on in the United States.

00:37:43.000 The way to stop it is for people to know that it happens.

00:37:47.000 And I should clarify too, I suppose, there were Republicans on that panel.

00:37:53.000 I mean, not the Republicans anyone actually wanted to be on that panel.

00:37:56.000 In name, yeah.

00:37:56.000 But you had Kinzinger and Cheney who, you know, exactly, in name.

00:37:59.000 And as far as anyone was concerned, they were effectively Democrats.

00:38:02.000 But that really says a lot about- Well, one thing I noticed was that the Republicans had extraordinary influence over the committee.

00:38:09.000 We got into some of the January 6th committee's staff files.

00:38:13.000 And one thing I took particular note of is that Adam Kinzinger was able to place a handpicked CIA lawyer into the general counsel's office of the House of Representatives to gaslight all these subpoenas to torch Americans, to smear them.

00:38:33.000 And they were assembling people, not from the traditional group that you would think for congressional staff, but they were finding sharp-toothed lawyers in the Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA, high-end state attorney's offices.

00:38:50.000 They were finding people all over the country.

00:38:52.000 They were bringing high-end left-wing talent in to operationalize that force.

00:38:57.000 All right, I'm gonna ask you guys the hard question, I suppose.

00:39:01.000 Where's the committee on far-left extremism, Antifa?

00:39:04.000 We talk about January 6th and the unjust actions that were taken for a lot of these people.

00:39:09.000 Some of these people, I think, were violent, should be criminally charged.

00:39:12.000 You know, like I said, Tucker shows the violent footage.

00:39:14.000 But just in this past week, in the past few months, we've had a group of 150 far-left extremists break into a government compound, a facility in Georgia, firebomb buildings and equipment, Some of these people were not from this country.

00:39:28.000 One of them was a lawyer for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:39:32.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center admitted it and said that, oh, he's a legal observer.

00:39:35.000 And then the spokesperson tweets out a hashtag in support of the terrorists.

00:39:42.000 These people have been charged with domestic terrorism.

00:39:45.000 How is it that the entire cycle The news cycle.

00:39:48.000 I understand the media is going to ignore it, but where are we in terms of putting together the Select Committee on Far-Left Extremism?

00:39:55.000 How about we have the May 29th Insurrection Panel, the Select Committee on 529, and we can talk about the far-left extremists who tore down the barricades of the White House, firebombed a guard post, set fire to St.

00:40:06.000 John's Church, injuring I think around 70 to 100 police officers, forcing the President into a bunker.

00:40:13.000 How about we get, we bring cops in to testify on that, cops who were injured, we bring in witnesses and journalists and we put all of that on the record.

00:40:20.000 So I'm here for it.

00:40:22.000 Understand though, remember that in a lot of ways the two parties do the same thing in Washington.

00:40:28.000 And so the only reason we have a select committee on the weaponization of government is because when Matt and I said we're going to negotiate over who gets to be the speaker.

00:40:38.000 We're not just going to cast votes just because Hundred eighty of the members Republican members say we're going to do it.

00:40:44.000 That was great by the way.

00:40:45.000 Well I mean you know the first couple days it wasn't so great.

00:40:49.000 But I mean for us but I thought it was important to do.

00:40:52.000 So did Matt.

00:40:53.000 We stuck to our guns.

00:40:54.000 That's really the first time people have There have been a lot of coup efforts.

00:40:59.000 I guess you'd call them if you want to call it that.

00:41:01.000 I wouldn't use that word.

00:41:02.000 That's a bad term.

00:41:03.000 That's what they call it.

00:41:03.000 A friend of ours in Congress called it multiple coup efforts against the, you know.

00:41:07.000 They call us the Taliban 20.

00:41:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:09.000 That is the coolest nickname I've ever been a part of.

00:41:12.000 Crenshaw said we were legislative terrorists.

00:41:14.000 But it was that we stuck to our guns.

00:41:17.000 And part in a very material part of the agreement that we, in fact, I negotiated the authority for that subcommittee myself.

00:41:26.000 And so these aren't easy to get in the sense that a lot of people want to ignore stuff.

00:41:33.000 The question will be to what extent were U.S.

00:41:35.000 taxpayer dollars used to try to fuel some of those groups through NGOs, through a lot of this diversity, equity, and inclusion funding that we do.

00:41:43.000 I think we've got our next guest here, man.

00:41:44.000 You want me to bounce first, Steve?

00:41:46.000 Yeah, we'll rotate down.

00:41:48.000 Let the honey badger join us.

00:41:52.000 So I think the mics, I see people saying pull the mic back.

00:41:54.000 I pushed the mic way back because it looks like they're very sensitive.

00:41:58.000 I guess they're picking up too well now.

00:42:02.000 Of course.

00:42:03.000 Right, right.

00:42:04.000 It was really quiet and we're trying to get close and then we're like, pull away, pull away.

00:42:06.000 Gotcha.

00:42:07.000 Joel, Steve coming in?

00:42:09.000 Steve Bannon?

00:42:10.000 You've got to get the Tim Casp vibe.

00:42:12.000 You've got to get accustomed to the... To the what?

00:42:14.000 To the vibe.

00:42:15.000 Oh, the vibe.

00:42:17.000 It is bad.

00:42:19.000 I blame the Deep State for the audio problems.

00:42:20.000 Did it happen last time?

00:42:21.000 No, the last time we had the audio problems.

00:42:24.000 Look at this.

00:42:25.000 Steve Bannon.

00:42:25.000 The Honey Badger in the Capitol.

00:42:29.000 It doesn't get any better.

00:42:30.000 Never met the man myself.

00:42:31.000 Dan Bishop.

00:42:32.000 How you doing?

00:42:33.000 Good to meet you.

00:42:36.000 We'll let Bannon get seated.

00:42:37.000 We're talking about Dan and my trip to go through all of the January 6th Committee documents.

00:42:45.000 Adam Kinzinger was able to get... They sent the two right guys.

00:42:48.000 We believe today was the first time that any lawmaker, any Republican lawmakers... You don't have to lean in so much.

00:42:53.000 I think the mics are really sensitive right now for some reason.

00:42:54.000 They said I was on top of the mic too much.

00:42:56.000 Are you going to host and direct today?

00:42:58.000 Direct the whole thing?

00:42:58.000 Yeah, the whole thing.

00:42:59.000 Absolutely.

00:43:01.000 So here's what we were talking about, and I'm curious on your thoughts, Mr. Bannon.

00:43:06.000 Some kind of Antifa committee or at least a component of exploring the far-left extremism we're actively seeing right now.

00:43:15.000 I think we get two things out of it.

00:43:16.000 One, accountability for what we saw in Georgia, what we saw in Portland, what we saw with Chaz and all that stuff.

00:43:21.000 It's accountability.

00:43:23.000 We could stop what's actively going on if we shine a light on it.

00:43:26.000 We can get accountability for the past actions.

00:43:28.000 And then I think it might wake up a lot of Americans to the degree of violent extremism coming from the left that's not being portrayed in media.

00:43:36.000 I think that's a great idea.

00:43:37.000 I think what we need is to put all the effort into reconstituting a J6 committee and let them have a ranking member in a minority council and set it all up and go back to the beginning.

00:43:51.000 I think this is one of the biggest things in the country and I think you need top people like we have here on this committee and all the information has got to come out on the intelligence services, on the FBI, everything, what we knew, what we didn't know, all of it.

00:44:05.000 I mean, Tucker did a thing, and don't get me wrong, Antifa's needed too, but I only think we've got so much bandwidth to do things.

00:44:12.000 And this has to be answered.

00:44:15.000 It can't continue on like it is.

00:44:17.000 You can't continue to rely on guys like Tucker doing a heroic job with the 44,000.

00:44:21.000 We need a formal investigation, a select committee if you have to, Of major players in the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, not like the show Charles Sheehan, but actually have a ranking member.

00:44:33.000 So anyway, you've said that a few times, and it is a decision point we are at right now, because Democrats have used their presence in these transcribed interviews to obstruct the investigation, to try to deter whistleblowers, to smear patriotic Americans who joined the premier law enforcement agency in the world because they love our country as we all should.

00:44:54.000 And I don't think they should get to participate anymore in those transcribed interviews if they are using that courtesy to try to do harm to the investigation.

00:45:03.000 And you're saying, bring them in, do to them better than they did us. 0.77

00:45:08.000 I just think, look, I think in that regard, they play smash mouth.

00:45:11.000 I think we have to start playing smash mouth.

00:45:13.000 But I think if you don't constitute it where they get the information and are able to cross-examine witnesses, we're going to have the exact same show trial we had the first time.

00:45:22.000 These are such deep issues that the American people have to get to the bottom of this.

00:45:28.000 This is like Watergate.

00:45:29.000 This is like Iran-Contra. 0.64

00:45:30.000 This is like the 9-11 Commission. 0.64

00:45:32.000 You know, they always say it's like Pearl Harbor had seven different commissions, four of them in the Capitol, right?

00:45:40.000 And they still never quite got to the thing, but they kept going over and over because the American people deserve answers.

00:45:45.000 The American people deserve answers.

00:45:46.000 And I think there's enough tough guys like yourself that can get in there and make sure they're not leaking depositions, they're not playing games with the press, all of that.

00:45:55.000 It's going to be tough, but I think it's going to happen.

00:45:57.000 One thing I found interesting when we went through the files today, they are incredibly well organized.

00:46:02.000 And as it relates to outgoing documents, they are almost completely complete.

00:46:08.000 You can go through by name.

00:46:11.000 I pulled the Charlie Kirk file and I saw the way that the Turning Point organization was targeted and is actually still being unfairly targeted.

00:46:19.000 I pulled the Bernie Kerik file and saw the way they went after him.

00:46:24.000 I pulled the Mark Short file and I saw how eager he was to cooperate and how even with friendly witnesses they played this game with the subpoena nonetheless.

00:46:36.000 But there was one file With no documents in it that I've reviewed.

00:46:42.000 And it was the Steve Bannon file.

00:46:44.000 No documents.

00:46:44.000 There was the Steve Bannon file.

00:46:46.000 They've taken it.

00:46:48.000 It's waiting for me in federal prison for my four-month sentence, right?

00:46:52.000 The warden will have it.

00:46:54.000 I'm sure justice has it.

00:46:56.000 In a circumstance where they were so meticulous to have everything indexed and included and in almost every case you saw a letter and like clockwork within 14 days a subpoena that followed that letter and nothing on the Bannon file.

00:47:13.000 So it's empty?

00:47:14.000 It is empty.

00:47:15.000 There's a file.

00:47:16.000 There is a, we found the Steve Bannon file.

00:47:18.000 But there's nothing there.

00:47:19.000 Man.

00:47:20.000 Well I actually, not to get my trials in appeal, but I think if you did, it's not what I would

00:47:26.000 want to do with J6, but there's no doubt that to me the general counsel for the committee

00:47:32.000 perjured herself multiple times in my trial.

00:47:35.000 To have a general counsel say, oh, I didn't know that was happening, it beggars belief.

00:47:39.000 It's incredible.

00:47:40.000 Can you speak to this person?

00:47:44.000 We are looking at the members and records and I want to know how far They crossed the line when we exercised our subpoena power because what I observed was that almost every week the committee was sending out to Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile, to Google Voice.

00:48:00.000 Banks all over the country.

00:48:01.000 All of these phone numbers, I want all of their records.

00:48:04.000 Yes.

00:48:04.000 All of these bank accounts, all these Amex cards, all the PayPal accounts people had.

00:48:09.000 Wanting all of the records.

00:48:11.000 It was such a wide drag net and I wonder whether or not some of these phone numbers are going to match up to members of Congress.

00:48:17.000 Yes.

00:48:18.000 I wonder if they're going to match our staffs.

00:48:19.000 It was interesting to see that the subpoenas depicted, there must have been some very good conversation going on between big tech companies, big telecom companies and the committee because the committee would send out a subpoena to the banks and it would say, it would ask for these internal file numbers of the bank and they give like

00:48:41.000 30 file numbers.

00:48:42.000 Oh, they've already had, they've already given.

00:48:43.000 Which they've already, but they nonetheless then subpoenaed it and got it.

00:48:49.000 So, but you know, that kind of relationship is pretty.

00:48:51.000 But that even of itself, even if you don't reconstitute the committee,

00:48:56.000 which I strongly recommend you guys do, just to put that in front of the American people of how gundeck

00:49:01.000 this thing was, right?

00:49:03.000 How organized it was with these parties.

00:49:05.000 As far as I'm concerned.

00:49:06.000 But what Tim is saying is that we need to pick up these tools and use them to deconstruct what is a dangerous weaponized left.

00:49:14.000 100%.

00:49:15.000 Well, so for one, I'm fascinated by the fact that we have active Antifa terror, right?

00:49:20.000 You know, I hate to say Antifa.

00:49:21.000 It's far left.

00:49:21.000 It's a plethora of groups or whatever.

00:49:25.000 Actively firebombing houses.

00:49:27.000 They flipped a guy's truck over.

00:49:28.000 Random guy.

00:49:29.000 Flipped this truck over, set it on fire.

00:49:30.000 They shot a cop.

00:49:31.000 This is escalating.

00:49:32.000 A French and a Canadian guy were involved.

00:49:34.000 An NGO lawyer was involved.

00:49:36.000 So we have that actively happening.

00:49:37.000 But I do agree, I think.

00:49:40.000 For one, I think the American people aren't being told what's going on because it's being ignored by the press because it's bad for them.

00:49:45.000 They want to side with their audience.

00:49:47.000 And I think we can force them to cover it if we had some kind of, hey, look, we're going to do the same thing.

00:49:52.000 At the same time, I'd love it if you guys subpoenaed Ray Epps.

00:49:56.000 No, that would have to be part of it.

00:49:58.000 I think you have to use the facial recognition and go to the DHS.

00:50:02.000 You have to find out how many federal agents were there.

00:50:05.000 There was obviously federal agents.

00:50:07.000 My point is you have to go back to the beginning and find out what people knew.

00:50:12.000 I had Chris Miller, the acting Secretary of Defense at the time.

00:50:14.000 He was on the show.

00:50:15.000 He had a book that came out.

00:50:18.000 300 pages long.

00:50:19.000 20 pages deal with this situation.

00:50:21.000 I think I'm the only guy who read it.

00:50:22.000 Because he's got explosive stuff.

00:50:24.000 He, as Secretary of Defense, couldn't get anybody organized, an FBI or just anything, to even have a meeting to plan on security.

00:50:31.000 He just keeps watching TV.

00:50:32.000 So he finally called and they would meet on Sunday afternoon before the Tuesday.

00:50:35.000 I think January 2nd or 3rd.

00:50:38.000 He has a Zoom call.

00:50:41.000 Now this is the acting Secretary of Defense.

00:50:42.000 He's got the FBI, DOJ, all of it.

00:50:45.000 And they're sitting there going, yeah, we have intelligence.

00:50:47.000 There's going to be 35,000 people there.

00:50:50.000 And he goes, gosh, they had a million in November 12th.

00:50:53.000 They had 75,000 on the 14th.

00:50:55.000 Hey, this is how we've done this.

00:50:56.000 We got until 35,000.

00:50:58.000 And he goes, well, you know, can we help?

00:51:01.000 Can we get troops?

00:51:02.000 Can we get National Guard?

00:51:03.000 I can get all the stuff.

00:51:04.000 And he was told, no, the D.C.

00:51:07.000 Metro and Capitol Hill police can handle up to a million protesters.

00:51:11.000 And it's fine.

00:51:12.000 And that will be fine.

00:51:14.000 And he says, well, how many?

00:51:15.000 Bowser finally asked for 325 National Guard, which he deployed to Andrews Air Force Base.

00:51:23.000 Wouldn't even let him in the Pentagon.

00:51:24.000 Didn't want him in the city.

00:51:25.000 Andrews Air Force Base, which is, you know, 45 miles, minutes away in traffic.

00:51:28.000 He goes to the White House the next day for Trump on another separate meeting.

00:51:31.000 And Trump's sitting there and, you know, they're getting, it's another, I think they're going to pull the troops out of Korea, right?

00:51:37.000 So he's leaving and Trump goes, hey, are you ready for tomorrow?

00:51:41.000 And he goes, well, I think we are, sir.

00:51:42.000 He says, well, what are you, you know, what are you doing?

00:51:44.000 He says, well, we've had this big meeting and I've got 325 troops that are going to go to Andrews.

00:51:49.000 And Trump goes, now you're going to need $10,000.

00:51:52.000 You should call up $10,000.

00:51:52.000 It's in the book right there.

00:51:54.000 He says, Trump said you're going to need $10,000.

00:51:56.000 You should get them up.

00:51:58.000 And he's pre-stationed.

00:51:59.000 And he says, well, they don't want it.

00:52:00.000 The mayor doesn't want it.

00:52:01.000 Nancy Pelosi doesn't want it. 1.00

00:52:02.000 Nobody wants it.

00:52:03.000 To what degree?

00:52:04.000 Nobody in the country knows that.

00:52:06.000 That's why the committee, you go back to the beginning.

00:52:08.000 You know, the committee didn't put in the report, but they had their chief investigator who goes to NBC after the thing's closed up and puts the information out about the government, that the agencies did know all that was going to happen and that they didn't.

00:52:22.000 So I want to ask you, Steve, to what degree do you believe that this was Either let to happen by the federal government or actually incited by the federal government themselves.

00:52:34.000 Well, the war room... Agents of, I should say.

00:52:36.000 The war room, as you know, is right in back of the Supreme Court, you know, we're like a block away.

00:52:41.000 And I found it stunning on that day.

00:52:43.000 I never left the war room, did the morning show, get ready for the afternoon show, but guys told me they had basically deployed the Capitol Hill police in the bike racks.

00:52:51.000 There was nothing there.

00:52:52.000 And I just found that to be stunning, given the fact that People knew it was going to be a big march, etc.

00:52:57.000 So, I don't know.

00:52:58.000 It's all speculation.

00:52:59.000 What I'd like to get is the facts in front of, and let the Democrats cross-examine guys, let them see the stuff, let them, I'm sure they're going to leak some stuff, but if you got, even if you got some of the original J6 people back up there and cross-examine them, cross-examine, like the Hutchison, cross-examine these people under penalty of perjury, you might get some very different stories. 0.72

00:53:19.000 And I think that's necessary because I think Trump was smeared, you know, soup to nuts in this thing.

00:53:25.000 Yeah, I think that there's a criminal acuity that may have been increased by some of these FBI assets.

00:53:37.000 And here's the incentive structure that creates that.

00:53:39.000 We were talking earlier in the program about how the FBI changed in culture to an intelligence collection organization.

00:53:46.000 And so what they would do is they would seed assets into a lot of these groups that they thought were dangerous.

00:53:50.000 The Three Percenters, the Proud Boys, The oath keepers. 0.95

00:53:54.000 And then the incentive structure for that person, informing back to the FBI, is for that group to seem as significant as possible.

00:54:03.000 And so, do I believe that Christopher Wray was giving an order to somebody wearing a federal badge to commit a crime on that day?

00:54:11.000 No, but I think they created an incentive structure where some of their assets, confidential informants, confidential human sources, that were baked into these groups tried to facilitate and encourage a higher level of criminal acuity and by the way it's unreasonable to think that because that's what we saw in the Whitmer case.

00:54:28.000 You've covered exactly you've covered Michigan better than anybody and that's exactly what the Whitmer case is.

00:54:33.000 It's a perfect example and that and by the way many people in the Whitmer case at the senior levels were here it just looks like it was a it was bloody Kansas to the Civil War.

00:54:40.000 It was kind of the preamble The microcosm of the thing itself.

00:54:44.000 Like a trial balloon.

00:54:47.000 I don't know and the country doesn't know.

00:54:49.000 And the very special agent in charge who ran the Whitmer investigation in Michigan ends up in the Washington field office.

00:54:54.000 And if you look at the deposition of Ray Epps and you compare it to, I mean, they're trying to guide his testimony.

00:55:00.000 It just beggars belief there's not something there.

00:55:03.000 And you need a formal process.

00:55:04.000 All I'm saying is go back to what Congress really does well.

00:55:08.000 To have these big, complicated, special committees.

00:55:10.000 We've got Watergate, the Pearl Harbor Commission, the 9-11 Commission, the Commission on the 2008 Financial Crisis, and it's always the same cookie cutter.

00:55:17.000 That's what they had.

00:55:18.000 It's one of my appeals.

00:55:19.000 One of the big fights was not just executive privilege, but also about the construction of the committee.

00:55:24.000 They came down to one word, shall versus will.

00:55:27.000 And we're going to appeal that.

00:55:28.000 Because the committee was, you try to put up Jordan and Banks.

00:55:32.000 She said no.

00:55:34.000 And then McCarthy made a decision, just let it go.

00:55:37.000 And they never had a ranking member.

00:55:38.000 And most importantly, never had a minority counsel.

00:55:40.000 Never saw the evidence.

00:55:43.000 And never got to cross it.

00:55:44.000 Can you imagine what J6 would be like?

00:55:46.000 That show trial they did?

00:55:47.000 Cross-examining these witnesses?

00:55:49.000 With a tough prosecutor?

00:55:50.000 Dad, if you practice law, would you have ever lost a case if there wasn't an opposing lawyer?

00:55:55.000 I mean, I would be undefeated in the practice of law if there was no opposing law.

00:55:59.000 There are always the war stories about losing the unopposed motion to extend time.

00:56:04.000 Right.

00:56:04.000 But no, that really didn't happen very often.

00:56:07.000 A client who represents himself, what is it, a man who represents himself as a fool for a client? 0.97

00:56:12.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:56:12.000 Yeah, you're going up against a pro and you don't know what you're doing. 0.95

00:56:15.000 One of the things that makes me a bit more conspiratorial on January 6th, but I won't say into knowing, just, you know, I have questions is, If someone came to me and it was like, let's say I was working for like a shadowy organization and deep intelligence or whatever.

00:56:30.000 And they said, we need to guarantee that Donald Trump wins his reelection.

00:56:33.000 I would say, here's what you do.

00:56:35.000 When the activists show up on May 29th, you'll let them win.

00:56:38.000 You let them tear the fences down.

00:56:39.000 You let them burn the church down.

00:56:40.000 Then you will have two years of nonstop coverage of the far left terror attack that ransacked and destroyed Washington DC, destroyed an iconic church, forced the president to do a bunker and breached the White House.

00:56:50.000 And then January 6th happened.

00:56:51.000 And I'm like, how about that?

00:56:52.000 When the protesters came to D.C.

00:56:54.000 They took your idea.

00:56:55.000 That's what you're saying.

00:56:55.000 It's not so much my idea.

00:56:56.000 I mean, they followed that course.

00:56:59.000 That's what it seems like because after what happened on May 29th, I mean, you had, what was it, like, I mean, hundreds of thousands?

00:57:06.000 There's photos of, an aerial photo of D.C.

00:57:08.000 with smoke rising up.

00:57:09.000 They set fire to St.

00:57:10.000 John's Church, a historic church.

00:57:12.000 But Trump stopped it.

00:57:14.000 Trump and Barr stopped it.

00:57:16.000 And it wasn't even the most brutal crackdown I've ever seen in terms of protests in the United States.

00:57:20.000 They put their shields up and marched them out.

00:57:21.000 I think it was Bill Barr's best moment.

00:57:23.000 But here's the thing.

00:57:24.000 Media attacked them for stopping it, right?

00:57:26.000 Exactly.

00:57:26.000 They said it was a brutal... Deploy tear gas.

00:57:28.000 you brutalize people in protesting. Trump retreats the bunker and says I was just

00:57:32.000 checking it out and the media mocks him for it. But imagine what would have

00:57:35.000 happened if the video footage was far leftists ripping down the fences in front

00:57:38.000 of the White House and the next day Trump came out and didn't take a picture

00:57:41.000 with a Bible in front of the standing church, he took a picture with police

00:57:44.000 officers and firefighters in front of an iconic historic church that was burnt to

00:57:48.000 the ground by Antifa. That's that's psyops. That's that's understanding the

00:57:52.000 game. Trump I believe I believe is a true believer.

00:57:56.000 I believe the people he brought on, for the most part, not everybody, they're thinking like, hey, we gotta stop these extremists, let's do our job.

00:58:01.000 But then you look at the people who are more nefarious and more evil, and they say, no, no, no, no, no, no, let them, let them in.

00:58:06.000 Then you get these videos coming out now of Chansley, the cops are walking with him, they try to open one of the doors.

00:58:12.000 I don't buy the theory at all.

00:58:13.000 I think Bill Barr did a terrible job.

00:58:15.000 There were no Tiger teams set up in any of those cities, Portland or any of them, to go with special prosecutors that would flood the zone and start indicting people and arresting people.

00:58:25.000 I think the Justice Department was terrible the entire time.

00:58:27.000 I agree.

00:58:28.000 No, I was facetiously saying Bill Barr's finest moment was Lafayette Square.

00:58:34.000 I'm a Bill Barr critic. 0.99

00:58:36.000 Bill Barr was mostly a clown. 1.00

00:58:38.000 Mostly a clown. 0.99

00:58:39.000 They didn't set up any special prosecuting units. 0.96

00:58:41.000 They didn't flood the zone to Chicago, to Portland, to Seattle, anything.

00:58:44.000 No, his best moment was Lafayette Square.

00:58:45.000 His second best moment was the bagpipes.

00:58:48.000 Everything else was downhill from there.

00:58:49.000 No, no, I agree with that.

00:58:51.000 And Lafayette Square, by the way, after the photo op is when, quite frankly, the coup really started.

00:58:55.000 As Esper says in his book, he went back and talked to Milley because the media got on him.

00:59:00.000 And that's when they made an agreement.

00:59:02.000 It didn't go either direction, I suppose I should say.

00:59:04.000 The 529 insurrection, as I like to call it, was shut down, and there was some damage, and they got mocked for it.

00:59:07.000 should have gone and resigned. To me that is a absolute coup when they made decisions

00:59:11.000 and made decisions later on about who they were going to talk to and other militaries,

00:59:14.000 etc.

00:59:15.000 It didn't go either direction, I suppose I should say. The 529 insurrection, as I like

00:59:20.000 to call it, was shut down and there was some damage and they got mocked for it. But when

00:59:24.000 it came to CHAZ and the attempt at these autonomous zones, there was nothing. So, I mean, you

00:59:29.000 have an opportunity to either show the people you're shutting down, and we call it the summer

00:59:34.000 of love, because the riots were the worst we've seen in 50 years.

00:59:39.000 Who is the... Michael Tracy did reporting, I believe it's... Michael Tracy is his name?

00:59:43.000 He did the reporting.

00:59:44.000 I don't think you can get there.

00:59:45.000 I don't think the country actually wants to revisit that.

00:59:48.000 I'll be blunt.

00:59:49.000 I think you have to... If you want to get there, I think it needs to be done.

00:59:52.000 We need to go back to that summer and all those riots and get to the bottom of, particularly in the city, but other cities.

00:59:58.000 We're not there.

00:59:59.000 I think you've got to start.

01:00:02.000 Listen, Kamala Harris, they just said the other day, walked up and they compared her to Pearl Harbor in 9-11.

01:00:07.000 They say Pearl Harbor, 9-11, and this.

01:00:09.000 If it's at that level, it should have a formal investigation.

01:00:13.000 I don't know why we don't have a vehicle to do that now.

01:00:15.000 200 years. And then once that's done, I think the American people, because look, 4 million

01:00:18.000 people watched Tucker the other night, and they're in shock.

01:00:21.000 And we only got one night of footage in the QAnon shaman and some things like that.

01:00:25.000 What happens if you guys had several, you know, eight weeks to prepare teams on it and gave the

01:00:30.000 Democrats so they could cross-examine?

01:00:32.000 It would be galvanizing TV, first off. It would be the number one show in the country.

01:00:36.000 I don't know why we don't have a vehicle to do that now. I don't know why that couldn't

01:00:39.000 be done under the Select Subcommittee on Weaponization. Isn't that weaponization of

01:00:45.000 I think, or oversight or whatever, you guys pick it, but to me, I don't know why it's not happening.

01:00:50.000 The J16 is going to be a festering sort there for the country, and then I think in the process of doing it, they're going to go, wow, what about these other things?

01:00:58.000 It is a balance, Steve, because I think one of the mistakes Democrats made in our hearing this past week was exclusively focusing on the past.

01:01:06.000 Dan Goldman wanted to re-litigate the Russia hoax.

01:01:09.000 They wanted to re-litigate the Ukraine impeachment.

01:01:12.000 And we're talking about the type of society with a free exchange of ideas that we want to be able to preserve for the next generation.

01:01:20.000 And I think we have to balance the need for justice and preservation of civil liberties with a vision.

01:01:27.000 But I think the vision going forward, Congressman, is the following.

01:01:30.000 I think people would be absolutely shocked when Congress got to the bottom of what was the intelligence of the intelligence community.

01:01:38.000 Does DHS actually have a domestic intelligence unit?

01:01:41.000 And were there federal assets and officers involved there?

01:01:44.000 That would shock the country.

01:01:45.000 And going forward, we said, we're not going to do this anymore.

01:01:47.000 The New York Times already reported it.

01:01:48.000 This is our paper of record, as you like to say on The War Room.

01:01:52.000 Beloved paper of record.

01:01:56.000 Well, my recommendation is, until we do that, until you have a formal investigation of J6, because look, Murdoch and these guys shut Tucker down.

01:02:04.000 They shut him down.

01:02:04.000 He's the biggest, most powerful... He didn't show any more footage.

01:02:07.000 No.

01:02:07.000 And the next night, you could tell, you and I talked about it, they clearly put that show together at the last second.

01:02:12.000 I mean, he had the Russell Brand thing from the day, from Tucker Today.

01:02:17.000 They had plug and play.

01:02:18.000 He's got a lot more footage he wanted to... More footage appeared.

01:02:20.000 A lot more footage.

01:02:21.000 And they ran Russell Brand, which was a pre-recorded.

01:02:23.000 Pre-recorded, from the day of an interview they did on a streaming show, Fox Nation.

01:02:28.000 He maintained a brave front, but there was no more footage.

01:02:31.000 No more original footage since the first night.

01:02:33.000 They've had the mother of the QAnon shaman and the lawyers on that didn't get it.

01:02:37.000 Steve, doesn't this footage have to be released to the country?

01:02:41.000 I would think.

01:02:41.000 Crowdsource it.

01:02:42.000 I think you have to.

01:02:43.000 I think the notion of meaningful security risks is absurd.

01:02:48.000 People walk around the Capitol every day.

01:02:53.000 People are taking pictures of This building on a moment by moment basis.

01:02:57.000 So I think that's a red herring.

01:02:59.000 And one thing I learned during the Russia hoax is that you've got to get information out.

01:03:04.000 And we have all of these online sleuths that analyze and assemble and aggregate and promote. 0.71

01:03:10.000 And it is a fool who believes that holding information in for the perfect titrated release is commanding the day.

01:03:18.000 Actually, it's We really ought to be judged on the volume of information we get before the American people. 0.93

01:03:24.000 We did sit today at the terminals that are set up, that have the videos that are all there, and I do not know how Tucker's staff were able to sit down at those three terminals and go through, what is it, 40,000 hours?

01:03:38.000 And a lot of it you can eliminate, but you get a map, you can see where all the cameras are, you can drag the camera over.

01:03:44.000 Are you the first two people of elected office actually to go and go through the files?

01:03:49.000 We are, to my understanding, we are the first two Republican lawmakers that have had access to the full suite of files of the January 6th Committee.

01:03:56.000 Yeah, that's probably, that certainly is true.

01:03:58.000 Can we get the footage to a different news organization if Tucker can't do it?

01:04:02.000 You know, that's the speaker's call.

01:04:05.000 Well, McCarthy told Boyle, I mean the Breitbart interview, he told Boyle in the first question, I'm going to release it.

01:04:12.000 That's fine.

01:04:13.000 He says, I'm going to release all this.

01:04:14.000 I'm going to release it all.

01:04:15.000 Publicly?

01:04:15.000 So it's going to be in an archive and we just download it?

01:04:17.000 He said, I'm going to release it to every news organization, essentially.

01:04:20.000 He's not going to hold it tight as soon as, I guess, Tucker's finished with this.

01:04:24.000 Obviously, some decision will be made shortly, right?

01:04:27.000 But this all has to inform the appropriations process, though.

01:04:30.000 What Dan and I worry about sometimes is that we're going to do all this legwork.

01:04:34.000 We're going to expose these facts.

01:04:36.000 We do not have the ability to put handcuffs on anybody.

01:04:39.000 We don't have the ability to charge anyone with a crime.

01:04:41.000 Any referral for criminal prosecution that we send to Merrick Garland is going to end up in the circular.

01:04:47.000 Mark Levin told me, Mark Levin said on the stage of CPAC after your speech, we're not going to defund the FBI.

01:04:52.000 We're not going to defund the FBI.

01:04:54.000 It's a ridiculous idea and we're not going to do it. 0.77

01:04:56.000 We have to curtail the abused authorities and then we have to drain the blood Out of this place. 0.96

01:05:03.000 And that is going to mean using a meat cleaver when approaching the FBI budget, not an X-Acto knife.

01:05:09.000 I think that's exactly right.

01:05:11.000 Do you get rid of the FBI?

01:05:12.000 Maybe you don't get rid of the FBI, but can you not look at them and see they've got too much in the way of resources?

01:05:17.000 They're too big.

01:05:18.000 They're too omnipresent.

01:05:19.000 I'm okay with it.

01:05:20.000 Lay out your idea about breaking up the FBI under the authority of the U.S.

01:05:24.000 Attorney.

01:05:25.000 I think another problem that's obvious is that it's all this decision making.

01:05:29.000 That was the Mueller change, right?

01:05:30.000 I love Dan Bishop's idea.

01:05:32.000 Mueller changed it into a centralized decision making and intelligence gathering organization.

01:05:37.000 You need to decentralize it.

01:05:38.000 You need to get rid of the Washington field office.

01:05:40.000 You need to get rid of the executive power.

01:05:42.000 You probably need to separate out any intelligence functions.

01:05:47.000 That was my proposal.

01:05:48.000 Let's let the U.S. 1.00

01:05:49.000 attorneys be responsible for their investigators, which are the FBI.

01:05:53.000 Your part of Florida and North Carolina are two of the most conservative parts of the country.

01:06:00.000 If you go back to them and talk about dramatically restructuring and taking powers away from the FBI, what would they say?

01:06:06.000 Standing ovations.

01:06:07.000 Look, I've done it.

01:06:08.000 I do do that.

01:06:11.000 This is something that's very interesting to me.

01:06:12.000 Coming to Washington, I haven't been here, I've only been here four years almost.

01:06:16.000 People out there, it's amazing, they're very well informed and they are way ahead of Washington.

01:06:22.000 They are way ahead of understanding what needs to be done.

01:06:26.000 And they're not shy about saying that, you know, so when Chip Roy talks about defunding woke and weaponized government in Washington, I think There's a cheering section out there, and it's really big.

01:06:38.000 I was particularly impressed with the hearings with Big Tech when you had Matt Tybee being a so-called journalist, and you also had a woman who did not know what Substack or who Mr. Weiss was.

01:06:50.000 And I thought to myself, did they do five minutes of Google prep before coming into this hearing?

01:06:55.000 No, Sylvia Garcia is going to send a subpoena to find out exactly how high the Substack is. 1.00

01:07:02.000 Not good.

01:07:03.000 Well, I mean, how are we supposed to solve these problems when you've got people who come in, clearly in bad faith, with no knowledge, and claim, it's not happening, but I don't know what you're claiming is happening.

01:07:13.000 You know what I mean? 0.63

01:07:14.000 The question is, do they look like clowns to the country as much as they do to us? 0.94

01:07:19.000 I don't think there's any doubt. 0.96

01:07:20.000 They think they're bound to.

01:07:22.000 They're bound to.

01:07:23.000 Because they're attacking, I mean, you can, look, I'm an older guy and stuff like that.

01:07:27.000 Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger, everybody who's watching things, they know these guys.

01:07:32.000 Taibbi and Andrew went at it every day, right?

01:07:36.000 That shows you how far the country's come, right?

01:07:38.000 With Taibbi now being basically a witness for honesty and truth and this thing's gotten out of control.

01:07:44.000 To me, that was a huge moment.

01:07:45.000 Of course, the mainstream media didn't want to touch it because he's a renowned guy, a guy with real credentials.

01:07:50.000 I feel like the way I describe it is This country is suffering from hypoxia.

01:07:57.000 One hemisphere of this country's brain has been starved of oxygen.

01:08:01.000 And when you are suffering from hypoxia, you cannot save yourself because you don't know.

01:08:07.000 So they do these tests where they'll reduce the oxygen level in a hyperbaric chamber or something, ask you math questions.

01:08:13.000 The people think they're answering right.

01:08:15.000 When they turn the oxygen back up, they look at scribbles and chicken scratches and they're like, I thought I put the right answer down.

01:08:19.000 I put the wrong numbers.

01:08:21.000 How are we supposed to solve a problem when, you know, you ask if people are No, you're too generous.

01:08:32.000 Hypoxia isn't typically something that you do to yourself.

01:08:36.000 I sometimes wonder with these folks, which stage of the ritualistic self-mutilation exercise are we in at this point?

01:08:45.000 Yeah.

01:08:46.000 And especially, you know, on The War Room, we talk a lot about China.

01:08:49.000 And as I assess these Chinese capabilities that we allow into our country, like the balloon mania I never really got because we got what, one in every four Americans with TikTok on their phone? 0.99

01:09:00.000 We've got Chinese surveillance equipment at almost every U.S.

01:09:03.000 port where they are able to get signals intelligence on the entire supply chain of the United States.

01:09:09.000 We have rural America being connected by Chinese technology.

01:09:13.000 We have U.S.

01:09:13.000 police stations flying Chinese drones and we're going to get worked up over like 1950s technology.

01:09:19.000 But everybody can see it!

01:09:21.000 Right, everyone can see it.

01:09:22.000 So it was a sigh-ah.

01:09:23.000 I came on The War Room the day after and said, I thought that was a total sigh-ah.

01:09:26.000 But a serious country would not do these things.

01:09:29.000 A serious country would not allow what's happening on the border to happen.

01:09:32.000 And one of the things that's frustrated Dan and I is that We've got some of these Republicans who will not vote for the legislation necessary to jam the Biden into a border strategy.

01:09:44.000 And we've got to have a vote on Chip Roy's legislation to detain or turn away at the border.

01:09:51.000 And let the chips fall where they may.

01:09:53.000 But we are hearing now that there are folks who say, oh, well, if it won't pass, we can't bring it to the floor because that would show weakness.

01:10:00.000 No, you know what?

01:10:01.000 It would show strength.

01:10:02.000 The strength of our ideas.

01:10:04.000 They say their concern is that it'll expose the people who vote against that to losing their seats.

01:10:11.000 Why shouldn't we expose them to it?

01:10:13.000 Have other people replace them.

01:10:14.000 Look, you guys in four days did more for this country than has been done on Capitol Hill in 40 years. 1.00

01:10:21.000 Bullshit, Steve. 0.99

01:10:23.000 I will not take that praise because all we did was develop a toolbox. 1.00

01:10:29.000 Yeah, but there's been all this adulation.

01:10:32.000 Not just that, you galvanized everybody.

01:10:35.000 Everybody was watching.

01:10:35.000 It was the number one TV show.

01:10:37.000 It galvanized the country.

01:10:38.000 And people realized, because you were so opposed by Fox and everybody at first, that you're not bringing the country together.

01:10:45.000 You have to have unity, everything like that.

01:10:46.000 And you showed exactly what the problems are.

01:10:49.000 But it's not an end done to itself.

01:10:51.000 It's not.

01:10:51.000 The summit has not been achieved.

01:10:52.000 No, no, no, but I didn't say that.

01:10:54.000 My point is that You guys always had that weapon of how to take the magnificent six of the mighty 20 and do it again.

01:11:03.000 You know you're going to, like you said, the country is far ahead of where the city is in this capital.

01:11:10.000 You guys have, the people have your back.

01:11:12.000 You just have to be more aggressive on how you do it.

01:11:15.000 You can't, there's no amount of aggressive action you can take in Congress right now that will not be rewarded by people saying, I like these guys.

01:11:23.000 I like what they said.

01:11:24.000 Like your thing on Syria. 0.59

01:11:26.000 Dad? 0.99

01:11:29.000 When you stood up, and it was the Republicans, it was the intervention of the Republicans that looked idiotic, because nobody actually heard a compelling case how, one, Congress has to get this power back, and number two, this is absurd of what we're doing. 0.99

01:11:40.000 The neocon, this whole neocon, you know, trying to police the world. 0.97

01:11:44.000 That was a powerful moment.

01:11:46.000 You guys just need more and more and more.

01:11:47.000 I wouldn't pull punches.

01:11:49.000 You know, you give McCarthy's guys some time, but then you gotta start, and I think you're gonna have more people up there realizing, hey, I gotta be part of this team.

01:11:59.000 I want to give a white pill I guess for all those who may be discouraged.

01:12:04.000 I kind of feel like the position I've been in for a long time, like as you're describing

01:12:08.000 it, no more world police, I believe in securing our borders, bringing jobs back, bolstering

01:12:12.000 the American people, all that stuff.

01:12:14.000 And I felt when I was younger that it didn't exist at all.

01:12:16.000 It was the establishment neocons and it was the corporate neolibs.

01:12:20.000 Now it feels like as much as sometimes it feels like we're losing in some respect, this

01:12:24.000 is actually the most I've ever seen in terms of real opposition to the machine, especially

01:12:29.000 The neoliberal neocon world order we've had since World War II is collapsing before our

01:12:35.000 eyes.

01:12:36.000 You can see that.

01:12:37.000 It makes me smile.

01:12:38.000 Well, chaos is going to – I mean something's got to come out of this and it's going to

01:12:42.000 be a not pleasant transition.

01:12:44.000 But from Silicon Valley Bank to what's happening in Syria, you've got the neoliberal part

01:12:49.000 of capitalism that is collapsing.

01:12:50.000 You've got this situation in Ukraine and now you've got the CCP just cut a deal with

01:12:56.000 Iran and our great ally Saudi Arabia to basically take Chinese currency, yuan, instead of petrodollars.

01:13:03.000 The neoliberal, neocon world structure is collapsing before our eyes, okay?

01:13:07.000 And you never know where the next shock's gonna come from.

01:13:10.000 Silicon Valley Bank, Kramer was touting the stock Right, a couple of weeks ago.

01:13:16.000 Right?

01:13:16.000 Touting the stock as a go long, as a buy, a couple of weeks ago.

01:13:19.000 No, too good.

01:13:19.000 It's too good.

01:13:20.000 And by the way, the company's out trying to raise a couple of billion dollars a week ago.

01:13:22.000 It's like short, short, quick.

01:13:23.000 And this thing, you don't know where the contagion's going to be.

01:13:25.000 It caught everybody's surprise.

01:13:26.000 The California regulators had to, I said today on the show at 10 o'clock, I said, this bank will not exist by the close of business.

01:13:33.000 Now what shocked me, Was that the California regulators stepped in before the Fed because yelling these guys don't want this.

01:13:39.000 Such a bad narrative for them about what's happened to the bonds, the government securities, all of it.

01:13:43.000 Such a terrible narrative that in this thing, remember, you're going to have a thousand great startups that are not going to make payroll next week and they're going to come right here.

01:13:51.000 here. It's a hundred and seventy, one hundred sixty nine billion dollars in

01:13:56.000 deposits are uninsured. They're going to come right to the Capitol next week and

01:14:00.000 they're going to ask flying over East Palestine, Ohio, which never got a ballot

01:14:05.000 and they're coming right here and say guys, innovation, the guy said we're going

01:14:09.000 to we're going to fall behind China by a decade in innovation because the best 0.89

01:14:13.000 startup companies we have all bank here, they're not going to make payroll, it's

01:14:16.000 going to it's going to collapse.

01:14:18.000 72 hours ago, we didn't know anything about this.

01:14:20.000 My point is, that's the neoliberal, neocon order is collapsing in front of you.

01:14:24.000 So become a member at TimCast.com so that we can make payroll because I'm only half kidding actually when whenever this stuff hits I mean we we see it and we we often see it first because yes what happens is when COVID first hit all of these small businesses the way ads work on YouTube Small mom-and-pop restaurant buys a couple hundred bucks in ads for the month that target their local area.

01:14:50.000 People will see it on Facebook or Instagram or something.

01:14:52.000 But that all adds up.

01:14:53.000 Our video plays in that area, hits those ads.

01:14:54.000 I wouldn't know, Tim.

01:14:56.000 I've been banned on YouTube.

01:14:57.000 That's right.

01:14:58.000 On every platform.

01:14:59.000 How about you, Matt?

01:15:01.000 Still on YouTube.

01:15:02.000 By the way, I got strikes on YouTube only when I would post my interviews on War Room.

01:15:08.000 All of my strikes are War Room strikes. 0.85

01:15:10.000 I want to say right now, we are seeing ad rates dropping a lot.

01:15:16.000 We're seeing these layoffs in Silicon Valley.

01:15:19.000 Before SVB, this news came out, all the tech layoffs.

01:15:22.000 I'm looking at our ad rates, so I'm just like, be a member because membership is a shield for us.

01:15:27.000 And then with ads dropping the way they are this time of year, it feels like it's going to be a summer of very, very dark financial days.

01:15:34.000 Now we're seeing this.

01:15:36.000 Look, I don't want to say something that could precipitate it by encouraging people to panic or anything like that.

01:15:41.000 I'm just saying, I agree with you that the world, the neolib, neocon system is breaking apart.

01:15:47.000 That means the night is always darkest before the dawn.

01:15:50.000 I tell people to get some chickens and get some emergency food and learn how to take care of themselves.

01:15:57.000 This is madness.

01:15:58.000 The economic system we have today is madness.

01:16:01.000 When Biden sits there, when you look at the depression of working class people in this country, and they come up this week, everything we've been talking about, and they come up with a $6.8 trillion budget.

01:16:14.000 Not one cut to one program.

01:16:15.000 In fact, the rate of increase, I think, is almost 6%.

01:16:18.000 A 5.2% pay increase for federal employees.

01:16:22.000 And across the board, they have at their own calculation, what, $1.5 trillion deficits, as far as I can go.

01:16:28.000 The $3 trillion taxes, which my recommendation is the House should meet tomorrow and Saturday, the Republicans.

01:16:34.000 They should pass every tax increase they've got.

01:16:37.000 All of them.

01:16:38.000 Send it to the Schumer and the Democrats and dare them to pass it.

01:16:41.000 You're going to see what phonies they are. 0.98

01:16:42.000 Because it's all their donors.

01:16:43.000 All the big hedge fund guys are their donors.

01:16:46.000 All the billionaires are their donors.

01:16:48.000 Those billionaires hate MAGA, right?

01:16:50.000 And by the way, if Schumer had the guts to do it, which he wouldn't do it, Biden would veto it.

01:16:55.000 Because it's all his sponsors.

01:16:56.000 Ben, it's all in on the great foreign wealth tax.

01:16:59.000 I'm not actually for repatriation. I'm for more than the wealth tax.

01:17:04.000 For the wealth tax?

01:17:06.000 I'm more than that.

01:17:07.000 I want the repatriation. 0.97

01:17:09.000 Look, when you have 1% of the people, citizens, own more assets than the bottom 90, that system can't sustain itself.

01:17:17.000 If the revolutionary generation came back, they would spit on the floor.

01:17:21.000 They fought a revolution to get away from a landed aristocracy and the mercantilist system of the monopolies of the British East India Company and others like it.

01:17:30.000 That's why John Adams and Sam Adams and Hancock were smugglers.

01:17:33.000 The rest were smart lawyers.

01:17:35.000 They said, we want our own deal.

01:17:36.000 We're not going to do that.

01:17:38.000 They came back and said, you guys allowed this to devolve into an oligarchy?

01:17:42.000 Are you kidding me?

01:17:43.000 We're 1% of the people?

01:17:44.000 This is exactly what they fought the revolution for.

01:17:46.000 There was a belief in the elites, even among the revolutionaries.

01:17:50.000 Exactly.

01:17:50.000 Yes.

01:17:50.000 of duty that was expected of the U.S. and that's what we lack today.

01:17:55.000 And I don't know how you reignite that sense of patriotism.

01:18:00.000 I think the way you do it is what you guys did in the first week of January.

01:18:08.000 But even that, when you had everybody in conservative media against you, when you had Fox News against you, we had, oh it's Unity and you guys are terrible guys, and I gotta tell you, we came that close on that Friday night at 10 o'clock to total victory, right?

01:18:23.000 It was that, it was hung in the balance.

01:18:24.000 So it's, it's, I think people get patriotic when they see that, when they see action.

01:18:30.000 They love their country.

01:18:31.000 Go out in the hinterland.

01:18:33.000 In your constituents, they're so far ahead of where we are. 0.99

01:18:36.000 It's not stupid. 0.92

01:18:37.000 They understand the details.

01:18:38.000 They understand what's going on because of shows like Tim Pool and so many other podcasts out there that get the information out to people and they're hungry for information.

01:18:47.000 They will immerse themselves.

01:18:48.000 If you put up different links to go to, they will start.

01:18:50.000 I give homework assignments over the weekend.

01:18:52.000 People will read it and come back and will be informed and will be asking questions in the chat rooms, etc.

01:18:56.000 So, people want the patriotism, the DNA of our revolution is still with us.

01:19:03.000 It's still with us.

01:19:03.000 Right.

01:19:03.000 Right?

01:19:04.000 Remember, there's only a third of the guys in the revolution on our side, right?

01:19:08.000 There's a third Tories, a third of ourselves, and a third in the middle like there always is to say, hey, I'm going to see how this thing plays out.

01:19:13.000 That's the resilience of the country.

01:19:14.000 The resilience, exactly.

01:19:16.000 They can take institutions over.

01:19:18.000 But they can't really change that.

01:19:20.000 People can step forward and do it, fix something when they're ready to do it.

01:19:23.000 It sounds like Occupy Wall Street, you know, and I think the reason Critical Race Theory... Occupy Wall Street had a lot of positive stuff with it before it went off the tracks.

01:19:32.000 Listen, you can't have a system... It's just a ball to know a bunch of homeless people playing each other in tents.

01:19:38.000 The good part is you can have this concert.

01:19:45.000 Listen, Obama, remember Obama ran as an anti-war populist to defeat Hillary Clinton, right?

01:19:51.000 Something Bernie Sanders didn't do in two shots on goal, okay?

01:19:54.000 He ran as an anti-war populist.

01:19:56.000 When he came in, he inherited This financial collapse, and quite frankly, did the neoliberal way to just flood the zone, take the Federal Reserve's balance sheet, put $4 trillion on it, flood the zone to boost up assets, real estate and stocks and bonds, go to negative interest rates, so the little guy gets screwed.

01:20:16.000 They debated it.

01:20:18.000 The minutes of the governors of the Federal Reserve, Dick Fisher down in Dallas, he walked through how you are doing this bailout on the backs of working class and middle class people who have no chance for capital formation.

01:20:31.000 Their savings accounts, their checkings accounts, their money market accounts are going to have nothing.

01:20:34.000 In 10 years from now, they're literally going to have nothing except for what they work for, which we're taxing at essentially a 40% rate.

01:20:40.000 How long until we vote on the Silicon Valley bank bailout?

01:20:44.000 You think it'll be next week or you think it'll be two weeks?

01:20:46.000 You know, I gotta tell you something.

01:20:49.000 I'm not so sure that they can do something like that.

01:20:51.000 I mean, they got, you know, it's like you said.

01:20:54.000 We have the tools.

01:20:55.000 Are we going to admire them or are we going to use them?

01:20:56.000 I don't think they can do that.

01:20:57.000 I don't think they can go bail out SBB.

01:21:00.000 Dan Bishop predicts it on Tim Cass.

01:21:02.000 There will be no vote on the Silicon Valley.

01:21:06.000 By the way, you said today, tell them how they're going to do it.

01:21:10.000 They're going to use national security and they're going to use the deep state as the excuse that Gates nailed today early in our show.

01:21:16.000 They're going to say that this is the centerpiece of all these companies that are high-tech companies in Silicon Valley, all these companies that let us compete with the Chinese, and if you don't let them make payroll next week, Okay, it's going to collapse and we're going to be a decade behind the CCP. 0.98

01:21:30.000 So what's the coalition of votes there?

01:21:33.000 The Silicon Valley Democrats, led by Ro Khanna.

01:21:37.000 The neoconservatives, led by the traditional voices of that movement in the House Republican Caucus.

01:21:44.000 And then the appropriators, because spending money is not typically something that's an affront.

01:21:50.000 To someone on the Appropriations Committee.

01:21:52.000 Is that the coalition?

01:21:53.000 That's the coalition I see.

01:21:55.000 That looks like 400 votes.

01:21:56.000 A lot more votes than I got on my resolution to pull out of Syria. 0.96

01:22:03.000 I don't see that coalition coming together.

01:22:05.000 I don't see Ro Khanna, as much as he talks about economic patriotism, putting that coalition together to have a bailout of East Palestine, Ohio.

01:22:14.000 You guys are going to replay 2008 and 2009, where, Louie Garmert, you had a decision.

01:22:20.000 Do we step in and have intervention and try to save this corrupt system by infusing it with taxpayer cash to bail out the elites?

01:22:28.000 Or do we let the contagion spread and let the devil catch the hindmost?

01:22:32.000 And the problem is when you're looking into the abyss, it's a very tough call for you guys to make because they're going to sit there and go, right now we're looking into an open pit.

01:22:40.000 You have no idea how deep this could go, how the American financial system could collapse, how the international financial system could collapse.

01:22:47.000 So you better vote to bail it out with taxpayer cash.

01:22:50.000 So you're going to take it from people making $45,000 a year to bail out the wealthiest people on earth, and they're going to put a gun to your head.

01:22:57.000 And they're going to say, OK, if you vote no and let capitalism take its path, this contagion will spread.

01:23:05.000 They're already talking about it.

01:23:06.000 Is it a contagion or chemotherapy?

01:23:09.000 That's what I'm trying to figure out.

01:23:11.000 Are you saying let SVB fail?

01:23:14.000 I think you have to, by the way.

01:23:16.000 Until you get a bailout of East Palestine, Ohio, screw, screw.

01:23:21.000 Look, those people are the guys that mock and ridicule MAGA every day of the week.

01:23:26.000 It's an elite bank.

01:23:29.000 The, I think, most elite bank in the country.

01:23:32.000 It only has a certain clientele of only the best of these high-tech companies.

01:23:37.000 It's all the venture capitalists.

01:23:39.000 Politically, they all hate us.

01:23:41.000 They mock and ridicule the central part of this country, the coastal elites.

01:23:46.000 They've got plenty of cash, plenty of capital.

01:23:49.000 Let them go bail themselves out.

01:23:51.000 Physician, heal thyself.

01:23:53.000 Do not come to us.

01:23:54.000 When you have not, you sit there and you mock and ridicule East Palestine.

01:23:58.000 You have some bogus hearing where nothing gets sold, nothing gets sorted.

01:24:04.000 Until East Palestine gets a bailout, there shouldn't be one freaking penny given to anything in Silicon Valley.

01:24:10.000 I agree, and it feels similar to the energy I felt when you guys stood up in the Speaker's vote, someone finally saying to the machine, you can't just steamroll us over and over and over again.

01:24:20.000 It's the same play!

01:24:21.000 It's 2008-9, it's the bailout, it's the, well, China drove the COVID catastrophe, it's the same thing. 0.92

01:24:28.000 It is.

01:24:29.000 It's exactly what's going to happen.

01:24:30.000 If you go back to town halls, if you go back to town halls in your district, Next weekend.

01:24:40.000 They've come to us with SVB and we're going to lose.

01:24:41.000 Here's what we're going to lose.

01:24:42.000 The contagion is going to spread to other banks.

01:24:44.000 Number two, we're going to lose all these great companies and we're going to lose all our innovation for a decade.

01:24:49.000 That's what we're saying.

01:24:50.000 We're going to lose all our innovation for a decade.

01:24:52.000 What is your district going to tell you?

01:24:54.000 If an earthquake hits Silicon Valley, I'm not sure that my constituents would vote to send FEMA.

01:25:01.000 With the banks failing, they certainly won't be in favor of sending their money.

01:25:05.000 He's the master.

01:25:06.000 Wow.

01:25:07.000 So great.

01:25:11.000 Part of me fears the ripple effect on regular people.

01:25:14.000 Part of me feels like, rip the bandaid off.

01:25:16.000 You cannot have this moral hazard.

01:25:18.000 You simply cannot.

01:25:19.000 And you know what?

01:25:21.000 Bannon told you moments ago, regular people are going to get pinched in this fourth turning that we are

01:25:27.000 in.

01:25:27.000 We have to come out of it resilient and strong as a country.

01:25:31.000 And there will be some good people who I think will pay the price.

01:25:36.000 But we cannot allow this moral hazard to exist where these companies can go focus on their DEI

01:25:41.000 and their ESG, and they can induct the new era of canceled culture through the financial

01:25:47.000 system.

01:25:48.000 It's going to be very interesting to be a fly on the wall at your conference,

01:25:52.000 because they're going to come and make a presentation to the conference.

01:25:55.000 Dan, what's the argument?

01:25:56.000 And they're going to show the contagion spreading.

01:25:59.000 And they're going to sit there and go, guys, I know you're not

01:26:01.000 going to like it, but we've got to saddle up.

01:26:03.000 And everybody's got to vote for it.

01:26:04.000 Because if you don't, you're going to make everybody else look bad.

01:26:06.000 This is the pressure you're going to get.

01:26:08.000 I think Andrew Yang called for it, didn't he?

01:26:10.000 I'm pretty sure he tweeted the federal government should backstop SBB.

01:26:15.000 Bill Ackman already did.

01:26:17.000 Bill Ackman already said, if there's not a deal with another bank over the weekend, we have to begin the process of a federal bailout immediately.

01:26:26.000 Yeah, Andrew Yang tweeted, in the absence of some kind of action, you'll see thousands of mass layoffs and defunct companies, a wiped out generation of startups, huge problems in California, in particular, and spreading financial contagion that will infect a host of regional banks at a minimum.

01:26:39.000 Get ready Monday, because that's going to be everything on TV, and they're going to be calling you guys back to say it.

01:26:45.000 But there was a startup bubble because of the COVID policies.

01:26:48.000 I don't think people connect that.

01:26:49.000 There was this belief that because of COVID, we were all going to live in our pods, Eat the bugs and have DoorDash deliver our food.

01:26:58.000 Read it again from the top.

01:27:00.000 That's exactly it.

01:27:00.000 This is summary, Yang summarizes it perfectly.

01:27:03.000 In the absence of some kind of action, you'll see thousands of mass layoffs and defunct companies,

01:27:07.000 a wiped out generation of startups, huge problems in California in particular,

01:27:12.000 and a spreading financial contagion that will infect a host of regional banks at minimum.

01:27:16.000 I'd just like to add, you know, he says that, and I'm sort of feeling worried until he says

01:27:21.000 huge problems in California in particular, and I'm like, oh, well now I'm not

01:27:24.000 trying to care all that much.

01:27:25.000 Oh, that's good.

01:27:26.000 I'm just not, I don't know how I got out of this.

01:27:29.000 Those are the building blocks of the narrative and they're going to work it all weekend.

01:27:32.000 The Sunday shows are going to all be about this.

01:27:33.000 A generation of tech companies, contagion spread, it's all the narrative.

01:27:41.000 Those are the building blocks of the narrative and they're going to work it all weekend.

01:27:44.000 The Sunday shows are going to all be about this.

01:27:46.000 It's not going to be about the financial policies of Joe Biden and Powell and these radicals

01:27:52.000 and incompetents that caused the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank because that's what

01:27:58.000 There'll be nothing about that.

01:27:59.000 It'll all be about how we have to step in and bail this thing out.

01:28:02.000 Just go to your constituents and say, please think of the people in the Bay Area and how much of your support they need.

01:28:10.000 There's two Starbucks across from each other.

01:28:11.000 What if one of them goes under?

01:28:13.000 They need your help.

01:28:13.000 A lot of people are going to be saying, this is what we've been waiting for.

01:28:16.000 That's right.

01:28:18.000 Let Starbucks unionize first and then we'll talk about it.

01:28:20.000 Yeah.

01:28:21.000 That's the interesting thing, man.

01:28:23.000 I got really triggered once because I saw a meme that accused you of being a white supremacist, Steve.

01:28:28.000 And I see all these Occupy people insulting you, and it's this picture of you, and they're just like... It's a meme where they claim that you think you're the master race.

01:28:37.000 And I'm like, have they listened to a single word Steve Bennis ever said?

01:28:40.000 Because you're the guy who would be up on top of the stage everything you just said.

01:28:46.000 Bullhorning to all of these people, this is it, and they'd be cheering for you, but the media introduces critical race theory, gender ideology, lies about you, and it splits up the people who should be agreeing with you.

01:28:58.000 This is about money.

01:28:59.000 The collapse of the neoliberal order is a chance.

01:29:02.000 I do Royce White's show later.

01:29:06.000 The collapse of the neoliberal order, which is predicated upon the slave labor of China, the Lao-Beijing, gives us an opportunity to throw off the chains of working-class people everywhere, regardless of race or gender or religion.

01:29:22.000 And we have a unique opportunity to do that in this, and that's going to come.

01:29:25.000 That's why populism is on the rise, and particularly that's why right-wing... I'm proud to be a right-wing populist.

01:29:30.000 That's why right-wing populism is on the rise. 0.98

01:29:33.000 So, Min Liang Tan, co-founder and CEO of Razor, tweeted, I think Twitter should buy SVB and become a digital bank.

01:29:41.000 Elon Musk replied, I'm open to the idea.

01:29:44.000 Seems a bit silly.

01:29:45.000 I don't know.

01:29:46.000 What would you think about that?

01:29:47.000 I think until Elon Musk starts letting back on the most, the true anti-CCP people that he keeps blocked off there, myself included, not that I want to go on there.

01:29:59.000 He's owned by the Chinese Communist Party.

01:30:02.000 When you talk about Tesla, his only thing of real value is Tesla.

01:30:06.000 He uses it for margin loans, he sells the stock.

01:30:09.000 The Shanghai joint venture is 100% controlled by the CCP.

01:30:13.000 This is why he never goes after the CCP.

01:30:16.000 This is why he always backs off.

01:30:17.000 This is when they had the protest about the lockdowns of COVID.

01:30:21.000 He will not do it.

01:30:23.000 Elon Musk is a total and complete phony.

01:30:25.000 He is in bed in a business party, he's done some good stuff, letting stuff out, 0.86

01:30:29.000 you know, with Tayibi and others, it's fine.

01:30:31.000 But he is owned, locked, stocked and barreled by the Chinese Communist Party and he acts like it. 1.00

01:30:38.000 There was a story recently that they warned him to stop talking about lab leak.

01:30:42.000 100%.

01:30:44.000 They want him to take down the tweets he did the first time.

01:30:47.000 Now, he didn't take them down, but you notice he didn't have any more up there after that.

01:30:51.000 And I wonder if he said, okay, I won't tweet more about it.

01:30:53.000 But here's the issue I see with the CCP in the United States, and if the United States falters.

01:30:57.000 By the way, the CCP, Chinese companies, are all in the Silicon Valley.

01:31:01.000 That's another thing they're already talking about.

01:31:03.000 We think maybe up to a third of those innovative companies may be CCP.

01:31:07.000 The principle that we see in American politics applies similarly to the rest of the world.

01:31:11.000 China will crush you with a boot if you're operating within their borders. 0.99

01:31:15.000 The United States will have committee hearings.

01:31:16.000 They may fine you.

01:31:17.000 They'll come after you.

01:31:18.000 In the United States, Antifa will throw a mortar through your window and they'll firebomb your house.

01:31:22.000 And the right will struggle to say mean words about you.

01:31:25.000 Matt Walsh calls an individual unearthly and there's this, oh, I can't believe he dared say that.

01:31:31.000 And then Antifa ransacks a government facility and burns houses down.

01:31:34.000 And it's not even in the news.

01:31:36.000 So, I think I can see what's going to happen if that pressure continues.

01:31:39.000 Elon Musk is going to say, look, I can go to the US, I can rag on their government, I can rag on the problems politically, and it's fine.

01:31:45.000 In fact, it gets me more supporters. 0.76

01:31:47.000 China will destroy me in two seconds if I go anywhere near that, so I better shut up about them. 1.00

01:31:51.000 See, that's what I think with the FBI and all this about the domestic terrorism and the white supremacy and all that. 0.94

01:31:55.000 I don't think you can get there, even in hearings or whatever, until you get to the bottom of J6. 1.00

01:32:00.000 I think J6 is so emblazoned in people's memories.

01:32:03.000 If you go back and actually show... Well, J6 changed the way the FBI thought about domestic violence extremism.

01:32:08.000 I mean, we have been in depositions where the whole construct of categorizing domestic violence extremism, the way they would mark a case, you know, for example, if you were investigating an organization, You would open a file and then you would open up targets underneath that file.

01:32:26.000 after J6 there was such a desire to resource an effort to combat domestic violence extremism

01:32:32.000 that they would say in an organization if there were eight people each separate person

01:32:37.000 had to have a separate file opened on them so that they could create the veneer or the

01:32:42.000 illusion that there was a greater problem than there ever was.

01:32:45.000 Throughout the country they assign these cases to the individual field offices instead of

01:32:50.000 all of them being Washington field office cases in order to get the appearance of this

01:32:53.000 burgeoning spread of domestic violent extremism.

01:32:56.000 You know but Matt on the other hand ever since I walked in the door up here I've been hearing

01:33:01.000 from these people to sit down in hearings and homeland security or judiciary committees

01:33:05.000 and they tell us about the most lethal threat to the homeland is domestic violent extremism.

01:33:11.000 So they use January 6th to advance a narrative.

01:33:15.000 You know, I think it's sort of a waystation, though, Steve.

01:33:17.000 I think Tim is right, that you may be right, the country doesn't want to go back and rehearse all of Portland and Seattle and Chaz and so forth, but the Atlanta attack does open up a new chapter.

01:33:27.000 Yes.

01:33:28.000 All of this is weaponization.

01:33:30.000 Actually, you can see, there's another one, you mentioned Whitmer.

01:33:34.000 You know, one of the FBI handlers, and one of those with the Whitmer informant, main guy there, was trying to also run a separate scam with respect to Ralph Northam.

01:33:46.000 And there's that line that he uses, the FBI handler to the confidential human source, who is about to reach out to somebody who's trying to draw into one of these FBI plots, and he says, and the informant asks for guidance, and he says, the plot is specifically to kill the governor.

01:34:05.000 The FBI is trying to inspire and concoct.

01:34:09.000 Plus, there was another one involving a BLM guy.

01:34:12.000 They wanted to propose an assassination plot against the Attorney General of Colorado.

01:34:19.000 What is up?

01:34:20.000 Let's pause there because it's a tactical decision we have to make.

01:34:24.000 There have been circumstances where the FBI has taken action against the left.

01:34:29.000 that might offend our sense of civil liberties.

01:34:32.000 Dan and I believe that our committee work will be more successful

01:34:37.000 if you get the few civil libertarians that still might exist as an endangered species on the left

01:34:45.000 interested in some of the work we're doing.

01:34:47.000 I agree with you 100%.

01:34:48.000 I think you ought to do the investigation.

01:34:49.000 They try to do this in left-wing groups.

01:34:51.000 You got to expose that because ultimately it can be turned against anybody.

01:34:55.000 It's the apparatus that's the problem, right?

01:34:57.000 So I think if you can garner support from the few remaining True civil libertarians are up there.

01:35:03.000 You definitely don't do that.

01:35:04.000 In order to look at what the abuses they did to left-wing groups, I'm sure they're out there.

01:35:08.000 They are.

01:35:10.000 On FISA, for example, Zoe Lofgren of California is an ally to try to curtail the authorities that have been abused. 0.53

01:35:17.000 How do we put together ideas, legislation that can draw those people into a reform movement?

01:35:24.000 I feel like you've mostly won the civil libertarians.

01:35:28.000 I find myself sitting down with conservatives all the time who have staunchly conservative views that I mostly don't share, but we never even talk about that because the issue is typically the weaponization of government, the failure of our, or capture of our institutions.

01:35:42.000 So you end up with this, I call it sometimes the freedom faction, I guess, because I'm like saying the right doesn't make sense because there are people who are actually somewhat socialist lean.

01:35:51.000 I mean, Joe Rogan, for instance, talks about UBI and other socialist like policies.

01:35:56.000 He's very left.

01:35:57.000 Said he would have voted for Bernie, if Bernie had been in the general.

01:36:00.000 And then on all these issues, though, he's now like, well, I'd rather vote for Trump than Biden.

01:36:04.000 I'm like, okay, well, how do you get a left-wing guy who likes Bernie to say, I'd rather vote for Trump?

01:36:07.000 It's because the issue is facts.

01:36:10.000 If you can sit down with someone who says they're pro-life and want a flat tax or something, and then I say, okay, well, we can talk about that, I guess.

01:36:16.000 But then they're like, oh, and here's a book of facts of what really happened.

01:36:19.000 And then I'm like, those are all true.

01:36:21.000 I agree with you on that.

01:36:22.000 Then you got another faction of people that either don't know, don't care, or believe lies.

01:36:26.000 I see, I think a lot of people who follow this show, for instance, we've done a few polls, some informal, some more formal, and it's like 40% moderates.

01:36:35.000 They don't consider themselves conservatives or Republican.

01:36:37.000 They consider themselves like, I used to be liberal, I guess.

01:36:40.000 Now I don't know what's going on.

01:36:41.000 So I do feel like that coalition is here.

01:36:45.000 The question is, Is it that people are too scared to get active and speak out because institutional capture means... Well, how many people... Look, you used to have a wide swath of the center-left Democrats were civil libertarians.

01:36:58.000 That's an endangered species now.

01:36:59.000 You only have a very small handful that will go against the narrative because they're like Stalinists on the left now.

01:37:06.000 Exactly.

01:37:06.000 An interesting case study is former congressman, current Colorado governor, Jared Polis.

01:37:11.000 Jared Polis and Justin Amash were in a Liberty Caucus together, where they would fight against government surveillance, where they would fight against endless wars.

01:37:20.000 And then Jared Polis gets a little power in the executive branch in Colorado and turns into a big government, command and control, pro-lockdown.

01:37:29.000 Left-wing fascist.

01:37:29.000 Marxist.

01:37:30.000 Yeah, and it's crazy to see that evolution just with the introduction of a little bit of power with some of these folks.

01:37:37.000 I want to try and read some superchats.

01:37:39.000 I can't read them all because of the way we have it set up, but there are some that I think are interesting.

01:37:43.000 I'll try and read as many as I can.

01:37:44.000 This one's actually interesting.

01:37:45.000 Christopher Macy says, I worked for Silicon Valley Bank.

01:37:48.000 Left over a year ago, they were violating equal employment opportunity laws consistently.

01:37:53.000 It was so woke I had to leave.

01:37:55.000 Tim, I sent an email on what I'm doing to change culture and feed my community and others.

01:37:58.000 Appreciate it.

01:37:59.000 So, the one thing I think could be, one approach is, we saw Yunkin do that town hall on CNN, where he mentioned when it came to critical race theory in schools, it's because these lessons actually violate the Civil Rights Act.

01:38:14.000 They promote discrimination.

01:38:16.000 I'm wondering if there's an approach going along with what Mary Rose, I'm sorry, not Mary Rose, this was Christopher Macy.

01:38:21.000 Critical race theory is explicitly a critique of the Civil Rights Movement.

01:38:24.000 Right.

01:38:25.000 Is there an approach in terms of institutional capture that is, hey, this wokeness and gender ideology is actually in violation of the law, and we can find a way to stop it? 0.62

01:38:33.000 A number of folks have suggested that, and I think there's some lawsuits to that effect that are rolling around out there.

01:38:40.000 The problem is you're going to have a difficult time defining a suspect class.

01:38:44.000 If you're making it some sort of equal protection claim.

01:38:47.000 Well, I mean it's hard to, it's hard to say, take the Title 7 employment non-discrimination.

01:38:55.000 It's hard to say that you're going to put people in a room and tell them that white people are inherently bad.

01:39:04.000 And make that not a violation of Title VII, which says you can't discriminate or have a hostile work environment based on race.

01:39:10.000 I mean, it's the epitome of a hostile work environment.

01:39:13.000 So I don't think there's a difficulty defining a suspect class there.

01:39:17.000 I think that statute is pretty straightforward.

01:39:19.000 It's amazing.

01:39:20.000 I think the same thing is true in Title IX, the education title and so forth.

01:39:24.000 Paul Engelbrecht says, we need olive branches passed between the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street activists.

01:39:29.000 They were fighting for the same thing with different views of how and who to fight.

01:39:34.000 I actually disagree.

01:39:35.000 I think in the early days of Occupy, it was identical to everything that Steve was just saying.

01:39:41.000 And the issue was a wokeness started to creep in from trust fund kids who lived in Brooklyn and didn't actually stay at the park.

01:39:47.000 Libertarians and conservatives started to leave because they were like, what is this?

01:39:50.000 I don't want to be involved in this.

01:39:52.000 But the general message, for the most part, was populist.

01:39:54.000 They were upset about the bank balance.

01:39:56.000 I agree with him, though.

01:39:58.000 I think there's many things that the left-wing populists and the right-wing populists can agree on, particularly about economics.

01:40:03.000 You're completely right.

01:40:04.000 And foreign policy.

01:40:05.000 And foreign policy, definitely foreign policy.

01:40:07.000 The neoliberal, neocon order is collapsing.

01:40:10.000 We've got to come up with an alternative.

01:40:12.000 I have a friend who we're actually currently working with who I met during Occupy Wall Street.

01:40:16.000 He's still very much like an anti-Federal Reserve guy.

01:40:19.000 He's like, we got to audit the Fed.

01:40:20.000 We got to get to the bottom of how they use finance to manipulate and control the people and destroy lives and pressure the society.

01:40:27.000 And then when you look at his posts on Facebook, the people who used to agree 100% with everything he's saying are now posting things about wokeness.

01:40:35.000 And when he tries to talk to them and say, guys, I understand you're upset about this, but this finance stuff they're doing, and they're like, it's white supremacy, you're wrong.

01:40:42.000 And it feels like those activists are gone.

01:40:44.000 They've, for whatever reason, been pulled into a totally different headspace.

01:40:49.000 Call it an effective PSYOP, I guess.

01:40:52.000 I don't see that many.

01:40:53.000 I agree with you.

01:40:54.000 I think that's what I encounter.

01:40:56.000 I don't know where, you know, Matt is one of the, he's probably the most Knowledgeable Republican in the conference about where the people would be on the Democrat side who might join in that kind of thing.

01:41:11.000 Unfortunately, the Democrats are better at the kind of shirts versus skins politics in Washington.

01:41:20.000 I don't think it's more than a small handful anymore.

01:41:22.000 And it's actually diminishing.

01:41:24.000 It's a diminishing brand among Democrats to believe in robust speech.

01:41:28.000 I mean, the only Democrat who spoke out about the horrors of the Twitter files was the much-mentioned on this episode, Ro Khanna.

01:41:36.000 I typically, when people ask me if there's any good Democrats, I'm like, well, Ro Khanna's done some good things.

01:41:41.000 I don't know enough about him to say that I would consider him... We made a movie together.

01:41:44.000 People should go watch The Swamp on HBO.

01:41:46.000 I made a movie with Ro Khanna, Thomas Massey, and Ken Buck.

01:41:50.000 HBO followed us around for an entire year.

01:41:53.000 as we as we tried to build those bridges with the populist right. I think Ro Khanna

01:41:59.000 very shortly is going to become a very viable potential presidential candidate for the Democrats. By the

01:42:04.000 way, that's why I think he didn't run for the Senate.

01:42:06.000 I believe that Ro Khanna would have beat Adam Schiff and Katie Porter in the Senate race. 0.81

01:42:10.000 But right now the House of Representatives actually gives you a more

01:42:14.000 pugilist platform to clash with the Democrats.

01:42:17.000 In modern media culture, you want to be in the House.

01:42:19.000 You think he's going to run this cycle?

01:42:21.000 Well, not with Biden, but I think that he's... You think Biden's going to be the Democratic nominee?

01:42:25.000 I do not think so.

01:42:26.000 I do not think he's going to be the Democratic nominee.

01:42:28.000 No, Marianne Williamson.

01:42:29.000 She's running.

01:42:30.000 Don't downplay her.

01:42:32.000 I think she brings a whole different element.

01:42:35.000 I agree, and I'm deeply offended at how they treat her.

01:42:38.000 Dismissive.

01:42:38.000 It's shocking.

01:42:39.000 Probably Robert F. Kennedy.

01:42:41.000 Bobby Kennedy's going to run.

01:42:42.000 He should run as a Republican, but he's going to run on the anti-vax platform.

01:42:46.000 He'll get 10% of primary votes.

01:42:48.000 They'll turn out.

01:42:49.000 I'm not so sure on the Democratic primary, but he will get in.

01:42:52.000 I got the under on ten percent.

01:42:53.000 Ten percent?

01:42:54.000 Did you?

01:42:54.000 Well, I tell you, on the anti-vax movement, it's big.

01:42:59.000 It's very big.

01:43:00.000 Did you see what Koreatown said?

01:43:01.000 Ro Khanna, by the way, he took Trump's economic nationalism and just turns it into economic patriotism.

01:43:07.000 He goes throughout the Midwest, and he's obviously very, very knowledgeable.

01:43:10.000 I think he could be a very formidable candidate in the future.

01:43:13.000 Did you see what Kareem Jean-Pierre said about Marianne Williamson?

01:43:16.000 I mean, it was actually kind of embarrassing what she did.

01:43:18.000 She was asked about Marianne Williamson announcing she wanted to run against Biden.

01:43:22.000 And she struggled to say crystal ball.

01:43:24.000 And she said if I had an... What did she call it?

01:43:25.000 An orb?

01:43:27.000 And she said, if I had a globe or... Marianne Williamson, you need the Ouija board.

01:43:27.000 A globe.

01:43:32.000 She sometimes doesn't have exactly the right word.

01:43:35.000 But this is the thing.

01:43:36.000 Send Master Jean-Pierre I think that what the media did to Marianne Williamson shows one of the reasons why they hated Trump so much.

01:43:46.000 They made something up about her and made it stick.

01:43:49.000 She's not a crystal lady. 0.91

01:43:50.000 She's even been like, why are they saying this about me?

01:43:52.000 It was actually kind of upsetting when I'm watching this.

01:43:55.000 She's like, I've never owned a crystal.

01:43:56.000 Why are they calling me this?

01:43:57.000 What's the majority of the crystal people? If people believe in the Fed, I've got no problem with people

01:43:57.000 And I'm like, what?

01:44:01.000 believing in the crystal stuff.

01:44:02.000 Well, they're doing it to make her seem like she's a hippie weirdo who has no idea what's going on. 0.98

01:44:06.000 So here's where I agree with Marianne Williamson the most, health care policy.

01:44:09.000 It seems as though whenever lawmakers debate health care policy, all we're really talking about is who's going to

01:44:14.000 pay for the health care.

01:44:16.000 We don't ever really have a health care policy to make people healthier.

01:44:19.000 And it sickens me that we continue to subsidize these very unhealthy foods for poor people, then those poor people find themselves in bad health, and then we subsidize the bad health and the disability, the SSID, on the back end.

01:44:34.000 And it is a function of what I believe is a corrupt system in Washington, D.C., largely run by lobbyists and interest groups.

01:44:42.000 I want to read this from Steadley.

01:44:43.000 he said, SVB CEO sold $3.5 million in shares two weeks before the collapse.

01:44:50.000 And the CFO, by the way, the CFO threw in another $750,000.

01:44:52.000 By the way, Patrick McHenry, this has got to be your witness next week in the Financial Services Committee.

01:44:58.000 You've got to call this CEO and ask him about that little stuff.

01:45:01.000 No, seriously, before they come for a bailout, you've got to have the CEO and the CFO with McHenry in a finance committee getting grilled right there.

01:45:11.000 I want to know what work of the Financial Services Committee would come before this.

01:45:15.000 What do you have the nerve to schedule before questions for that guy?

01:45:18.000 Check this out.

01:45:19.000 Matthew M says, Etsy sellers didn't get paid today.

01:45:22.000 It's not just the woke bank as much as I understand not wanting to bail out bankers.

01:45:27.000 Who didn't get paid?

01:45:28.000 Etsy sellers.

01:45:29.000 Yes.

01:45:30.000 No, this is already, you know, Wells Fargo had some problems.

01:45:33.000 There's some problems in other places.

01:45:34.000 Wells Fargo said it was a computer glitch.

01:45:37.000 So where does the contagion spread next?

01:45:40.000 First Republic Bank.

01:45:41.000 Where does, you know, all over the mainstream media we see, this is the contagion.

01:45:46.000 Contagion is like the word of the week coming up.

01:45:49.000 Okay.

01:45:49.000 Where does it go?

01:45:50.000 Silicon Valley Bank had $17 billion.

01:45:56.000 Of unrealized losses in its government securities portfolio.

01:46:02.000 Because they bought governments, and the bonds are getting crushed because of Biden's economic policies.

01:46:06.000 On other banks, I think the number, the Wall Street Journal said, was $600 billion of losses.

01:46:13.000 Right?

01:46:14.000 Losses on other banks right now.

01:46:15.000 So this could spread just because the bond market is getting crushed.

01:46:19.000 This contagion could spread because what Biden has done to bury this country in this continual over-the-top spending with the collaboration of Mitch McConnell and these guys in the Senate that has driven the Fed now to jack rates.

01:46:19.000 Okay?

01:46:33.000 You know, Kramer's saying at the end of the day, he's taking rates up too much.

01:46:37.000 He's bringing down the system around him.

01:46:38.000 He's got to stop the rate increases because that kills these bonds.

01:46:42.000 So you're going to see over the weekend, None of these banks are going to be sleeping.

01:46:47.000 They're all going to be going through their portfolios.

01:46:49.000 They're all going to be ready to say how they're going to trade on Monday.

01:46:52.000 We're in a crisis.

01:46:53.000 This is not a solo thing.

01:46:56.000 I happen to think it's systemic.

01:46:59.000 Maybe it's just one bad apple.

01:47:00.000 I don't believe that.

01:47:01.000 And people should be on top of this.

01:47:03.000 And you guys should be calling emergency hearings and get guys in here, the Federal Reserve, the bank regulators.

01:47:07.000 First question, why are the California... I'm not going to say there's a lot of Fed policy.

01:47:10.000 That's because there are multiple tools The first question I would ask is why did the California regulators seize the bank hours before the Fed?

01:47:25.000 Why was Janet Yellen, the control of the currency, the Federal Reserve, why was the Biden regime not on top of this?

01:47:32.000 Why did they let this thing fester?

01:47:34.000 When Peter Thiel sits there the other day and goes, take... Peter Thiel is a very conservative guy, and he doesn't have his hair on fire.

01:47:40.000 When he comes out and says, take your money out of the bank, that's a papal bull, okay?

01:47:46.000 So, this is... And by the way, the Fed... And why did Yellen not move?

01:47:49.000 Why did the Biden regime not move?

01:47:51.000 Because they don't want to show the nation, it's their economic policies That brought us to our knees, okay?

01:47:58.000 And that's what you're going to find out.

01:47:59.000 And the question is, is this now what's happening in the bond market?

01:48:03.000 Because the bond market is 20 times bigger than the stock market.

01:48:06.000 Is it actually going to end up crushing the American financial system?

01:48:10.000 I've got to tell you, we're going to be in scary times.

01:48:12.000 This is like 2008.

01:48:12.000 Remember, this is the second biggest bank failure in the history of the country.

01:48:17.000 The second biggest bank failure.

01:48:18.000 It had $208 billion of assets.

01:48:20.000 The only bigger one happened during the financial crisis of 2008.

01:48:23.000 This is the 16th largest bank in the country.

01:48:26.000 This is not a small thing.

01:48:28.000 This is going to hit crypto as well.

01:48:29.000 Maybe Silverlake early in the week.

01:48:32.000 How much of this is tech companies being overvalued?

01:48:34.000 One of the coins that's being used has got 25% of its holdings in SVB.

01:48:38.000 So now people are concerned.

01:48:39.000 Crypto is going to definitely take another hit.

01:48:42.000 Bitcoin was under $20,000 today.

01:48:45.000 So how much of this is these crazy valuations that a lot of these tech companies have gotten as a result of The Biden federal assistance. A lot of it. The easy money

01:48:52.000 and they raised a ton of money and they put this money in this bank and now they can't get to it.

01:48:57.000 So it's a necessary corrective, right?

01:48:59.000 Well, okay. So this is the question you guys are going to ask. This is 2008.

01:49:03.000 You're looking into the abyss. You don't know how it's going to be.

01:49:07.000 Do you vote trillions of dollars for bailouts and the bailouts are all on the back of shareholders, excuse me, of taxpayers making $40,000 a year, okay?

01:49:17.000 And the elite are going to make out.

01:49:20.000 So you've socialized, you've mitigated their downside.

01:49:24.000 Right?

01:49:25.000 You've socialized their losses, and you let them have upside.

01:49:28.000 They have unlimited upside, but they have limited downside because the taxpayers are going to bail it out.

01:49:35.000 And that's the question that's going to come back to this Congress.

01:49:36.000 And this is the big fight we had in 2009, and people kind of said, OK, OK, OK.

01:49:41.000 And we ended up doing it, and we never got to the problem.

01:49:43.000 We have still so many zombie financial companies that are too big to fail.

01:49:48.000 situation with the banks and the financial system.

01:49:50.000 We never got to the bottom of it.

01:49:51.000 We never lanced the boil and let the puss come out. 0.90

01:49:54.000 Because, guess what?

01:49:55.000 That's a brutal, tough process.

01:49:57.000 If the ruling class does that again, the people are coming with pitchforks. 0.94

01:50:00.000 That's it.

01:50:02.000 By the way, the first line of defense is you guys.

01:50:05.000 Because the big debates are going to... How fast will Schumer pass this to put pressure on the House, do you think?

01:50:12.000 I think it's going to be big.

01:50:13.000 Remember, in 2008, let's just go back, when Lehman collapsed because they got tired of moral hazard, what they didn't think about is that the commercial paper market, which is the way all the companies overnight get their cash in the cafeterias to pay everybody, it was the center.

01:50:28.000 The commercial paper market collapsed, so the whole system froze.

01:50:31.000 By Thursday, they went to see Bush and they said, this is Paulson and Bernanke, and they said, we need a trillion dollars by five o'clock.

01:50:39.000 Or the American financial system will collapse in 48 hours and the world financial system will collapse in 72 hours and you'll have global anarchy.

01:50:46.000 Something the Nazis couldn't do. 0.67

01:50:48.000 The military junta in Japan couldn't do.

01:50:50.000 Our greatest enemies couldn't do this to us.

01:50:52.000 We did it to ourselves.

01:50:53.000 And Bush said, I don't have the authority to do that.

01:50:55.000 You have to go up to the House.

01:50:57.000 The only person who has the ability to do that is the Speaker of the House and the House has to vote this, right?

01:51:01.000 They're the only people that can actually commit money.

01:51:03.000 And so that's where this whole process started and that's where all those huge debates on the floor with Louie Gohmert and five libertarians sitting there going,

01:51:11.000 no, it's called capitalism, let it rip.

01:51:14.000 And they were overwhelmingly, everybody said, okay, that's great, theoretically, we can't do that

01:51:19.000 because there may not be a bottom of this thing.

01:51:22.000 You guys are gonna be faced with the same thing over the next couple of weeks.

01:51:24.000 And local governments and state governments who are heavily utilizing the bond market

01:51:29.000 will be right behind the neo-cons.

01:51:33.000 Robini said, we have, because of the zero interest rates we went to, right now in the world,

01:51:37.000 There's $300 trillion of debt.

01:51:40.000 That debt at the personal level, at the county level, the school board level, the border level, the local government, city, state, federal government, of everywhere it's $300 trillion.

01:51:51.000 All basically predicated on an interest rate structure that's close to zero.

01:51:55.000 Now that interest rate structure is at 4% for the 10-year bond and 5% for two.

01:52:00.000 Remember, the night the election was stolen from Donald Trump, on the evening of 3 November 2020.

01:52:06.000 I hope you enjoy being on YouTube.

01:52:07.000 Well, Steve Bannon is completely wrong about that.

01:52:11.000 On 3 November 2020, when Fox called Arizona for Joe Biden, The 10-year Treasury was 0.86%.

01:52:18.000 The 10-year Treasury today is 4%, right?

01:52:23.000 That's a massive increase.

01:52:24.000 And by the way, people under 30, the millennial generation has $9 trillion of debt.

01:52:29.000 You guys are nothing but Russian serfs. 1.00

01:52:32.000 You're adding debt at a faster pace than any other generation in our history, and you're not going to be able to pay. 0.86

01:52:36.000 You're like a hamster on a wheel with a little bit of credit.

01:52:41.000 This is only going to get worse. 0.75

01:52:42.000 Dramatically worse.

01:52:43.000 So what does that mean for us other than, I mean, the economy gets bad?

01:52:47.000 Yeah, the economy gets bad, but then you start having bankruptcies.

01:52:50.000 What you're going to start to have is not the inability to pay.

01:52:52.000 Right now, the debt ceiling.

01:52:54.000 We're essentially a bankrupt nation, okay?

01:52:57.000 We have this thing called the Federal Reserve that continues to print money, and it continues to print money because the biggest export we have in the world is the dollar.

01:53:06.000 Every transaction, and this is why what the CCP announced today with Iran and Saudi Arabia is so big.

01:53:11.000 Because they're doing 40 year output, as the Green New Deal comes here, and we're trying to get to a net carbon zero, that Saudi Arabia and Iran are getting more important to China, the CCP who just burn anything. 0.60

01:53:23.000 And they're doing long-term output deals for all their production, 40-year deals, and they're going to use the yuan, the Chinese currency, and take it directly and bear the risk that that comes not converted into petrodollars.

01:53:35.000 Once we are not the reserve currency, which Great Britain was up until World War II.

01:53:40.000 We took over at Bretton Woods after the war because we were the superpower.

01:53:43.000 Once That is not our top export.

01:53:47.000 Whether it's a drug deal or converting something to put into a church in France in the collection plate.

01:53:55.000 We're not the prime reserve currency, we're Argentina.

01:53:57.000 Thank goodness the cartels still operate in the U.S.

01:53:59.000 dollar.

01:54:02.000 With the Saudis moving to the yuan, we really need the cartels. 0.78

01:54:05.000 Where this is headed right now, their debate...

01:54:09.000 Biden just put in your face a $6.8 trillion budget that has no cuts anywhere, basically 6% growth, one cut, and so he's not prepared to meet anybody halfway.

01:54:20.000 And you have a debt ceiling right now that we see from the Congressional Budget Office, at minimum, will add $19 trillion in 10 years.

01:54:27.000 That means we'll have $50 trillion of debt.

01:54:29.000 You got to understand, we're going to have growth.

01:54:31.000 It's going to kill growth under 2%.

01:54:34.000 You're going to have a lost generation or two in this country with under 2% growth, overbearing debt, so much money to go to pay off the debt, no opportunity, no venture capital, no ability to grow the economy, everybody living like a Russian serf. 0.99

01:54:50.000 Thank goodness the Zoomers are mentally healthy enough for this. 1.00

01:54:54.000 They've developed a resiliency.

01:54:54.000 Well, but hold on.

01:54:56.000 They've shed frailty.

01:54:57.000 That's what I'm thinking.

01:54:59.000 Stop painting such a rosy picture, Steve.

01:55:00.000 I'm not sure I'm all that worried if that's the worst case scenario.

01:55:04.000 I think one thing my generation and the younger generation need is to learn how to roll up their sleeves, chop some wood, and raise some chickens.

01:55:10.000 One of the problems that we've had with millennials and Gen Z is they've been born into a world with Silver spoons up their asses everything you I mean they want for nothing you the story I tell is the first day I walk into vice media with my job I was shocked to find that people didn't even show up and we're getting 30 to 60 K depending on what your writing job was and I come folks don't show up here and they get 172,000 1.00

01:55:35.000 Absolutely, but I'm in New York City and I'm thinking to myself, some of these people are getting 50, some of these people are getting 100k and they don't even show up.

01:55:43.000 And I come from a world where I was loading bags and airplanes for 10 bucks an hour and people are getting injured, they're getting repetition injuries.

01:55:51.000 I said if the people, the working class of this country found out what life was like for the laptop class, there'd be a revolution overnight. 1.00

01:56:00.000 The idea that someone's getting $40, $50 an hour to think about how they can write another article about how racist Trump is, and meanwhile some other person is breaking their back lifting steel beams for $20, $30 an hour, they're going to be like, are you kidding me?

01:56:14.000 This can't be that way.

01:56:15.000 So this generation, they need to learn where to chop some wood.

01:56:18.000 Where these guys are going to come under the pressure, not just the bailout of SPV and stopping the contagion, but then you get right into the spending, into the debt ceiling.

01:56:26.000 And you're going to get the emotions of this are going to be huge because they're saying you're going to throw kids.

01:56:31.000 Well, that's what you're going to do.

01:56:33.000 This is going to be the battle of the ages on finance in this country.

01:56:38.000 What happens right now with the debt ceiling?

01:56:39.000 You get me excited.

01:56:40.000 Well, no, you got to draw the line.

01:56:41.000 If you give them an inch.

01:56:43.000 And I mean an inch, because right now, you don't have to do anything to any government security.

01:56:50.000 You've got enough cash coming in to pay the interest and pay the face amount of the debt.

01:56:53.000 You'll never default.

01:56:54.000 A default has to be done by the Secretary of Treasury, but these guys are going to be guilt-tripped every day.

01:56:58.000 The media is going to be... It's going to be a government shutdown to the hundredth power.

01:57:01.000 I've got to ask you, this story is really breaking on a Friday, right?

01:57:05.000 Yes.

01:57:06.000 That says to me they knew it was coming well in advance and it was planned for this day because this is the day where everyone's off partying and not paying attention.

01:57:12.000 That's Friday's where news goes to die.

01:57:14.000 So it sounds like they knew this was coming and they wanted to...

01:57:17.000 Well, they definitely did.

01:57:24.000 The California regulators for a state regulator to step in front of the Fed and something like this and federal authorities is unheard of on a bank that's not some local community bank.

01:57:34.000 So what's the Newsom pivot?

01:57:37.000 Newsom, I think, is in real trouble on this, because I think Newsom, this is going to hit the thing, but I think Newsom is going to step in and start to, he's going to come back and make the big play that you've got to bail this out, this is the future of the country.

01:57:46.000 He comes to Washington to demand the bailout.

01:57:49.000 Gavin Newsom will come and say, this California model is actually the model for the country.

01:57:54.000 It's high-tech.

01:57:55.000 We're the leader in the world.

01:57:56.000 If you don't do this, we're going to be a decade behind the CCP.

01:57:59.000 California is a donor state.

01:58:03.000 If you have donor state on your bingo card for Washington, there's a pretty powerful counter-argument. 1.00

01:58:08.000 Everything you want turns to shit. 1.00

01:58:10.000 That's Trump. 1.00

01:58:13.000 Newsome will come to Washington, D.C.

01:58:14.000 to make his case as a national figure, that he's there to save the high-tech economy, and you've got to do it by doing a bailout.

01:58:21.000 And these liberals will just march in lockstep.

01:58:24.000 They'll repeat whatever they hear on the TV.

01:58:25.000 What did Yang just say?

01:58:26.000 That's what they're going to say.

01:58:28.000 The contagion.

01:58:28.000 Exactly.

01:58:29.000 That's already the narrative.

01:58:30.000 They got it on Friday.

01:58:30.000 Hey, they're not taking Friday night off.

01:58:32.000 They're hammering this nonstop, when I left.

01:58:35.000 And nobody's talking about, how did this happen?

01:58:38.000 How did we actually get here, right?

01:58:40.000 How did we actually get here?

01:58:41.000 That's what I want to ask you, Steve.

01:58:43.000 So you just said a minute ago, or a few minutes ago, that the world's 300 trillion in debt.

01:58:46.000 You don't need to get too close.

01:58:47.000 It's very sensitive, yeah.

01:58:48.000 Who are we in debt to?

01:58:51.000 Well, first off, we're in debt to the Chinese. 0.99

01:58:55.000 First off, we have $32 trillion on the balance sheet of the Treasury.

01:58:58.000 We have another $9 trillion at the Fed.

01:59:00.000 The Japanese insurance companies own it.

01:59:03.000 The Chinese own it. 1.00

01:59:07.000 Insurance companies here own it.

01:59:08.000 But we own a lot of it.

01:59:09.000 A lot of it's just created.

01:59:11.000 We make up these bonds, right, that we in fact own.

01:59:14.000 We've kind of paid for.

01:59:16.000 So a big part of this is the public owning its own debt.

01:59:19.000 So we own it to ourselves.

01:59:19.000 Right?

01:59:21.000 Now to the rest of the world, they owe it to everybody.

01:59:23.000 They don't have the luxury of just creating itself.

01:59:26.000 One of the reasons we have the luxury, we are the prime reserve currency.

01:59:29.000 We export dollars and everybody's got to do every transaction in the world because of that.

01:59:33.000 But it's going to be... But do you think, when you talk about the dollar under attack from this alliance, don't you think that the sanctions regime that our country has embraced over time, It has.

01:59:47.000 Because the SWIFT system, being able to do sanctions and then cut them off the SWIFT system, which is the way you do transactions, is exacerbated.

01:59:56.000 Sanctions seem to always get a lot of bipartisan support in Washington, but if sanctions worked, Cuba would be a Caribbean paradise, not a shithole country. 0.83

02:00:06.000 And if sanctions worked, you know, we would see Venezuela develop as the jewel of South America.

02:00:12.000 The reality is sanctions tend to hurt the people that live in these countries.

02:00:16.000 I haven't seen Maduro miss too many meals as a consequence.

02:00:20.000 Well, grabbing an empanada on TV is a classic historical moment.

02:00:23.000 Remember that?

02:00:24.000 He's giving his national address and then he just grabs an empanada out of a drawer and then bites it and puts it back.

02:00:29.000 That was basically Trump's moment with the taco salad, right?

02:00:33.000 Yeah, but he's doing it while people are starving.

02:00:35.000 I don't think Trump would do that.

02:00:37.000 Follow-up question.

02:00:38.000 If we owe the debt to ourselves, why don't we just not pay it?

02:00:41.000 You can't do that, because it's actual debt.

02:00:43.000 It's got an interest payment.

02:00:44.000 It's up there.

02:00:48.000 By the way, there is an aspect of doing that, and that is, by the way, they asked it the other day, I think Timmins in North Carolina, to come up with the trillion-dollar coin.

02:01:00.000 Yes, yes.

02:01:01.000 Someone mentioned that in member chat.

02:01:03.000 By the way, he asked the question of, would Powell take it?

02:01:08.000 Could you print a coin and just call it a trillion dollar coin and use that to actually de-lever the United States?

02:01:14.000 And he said, hey, that's a gimmick.

02:01:15.000 Just like paying off the debt's a gimmick.

02:01:16.000 We can't do that.

02:01:17.000 I know you've got to go.

02:01:18.000 Writing off the interest, though, I mean, if the interest is owed to a fraudulent system like a Swiss bank, the Bank for International Settlements, why are we as Americans adhering to this?

02:01:27.000 Why do you say that it's an illegitimate system?

02:01:30.000 Well, it's a Ponzi scheme.

02:01:32.000 It's basically they give us money and then they demand interest back on the money they gave us, but in order to get the interest to pay it back, we have to borrow it from them.

02:01:40.000 Okay.

02:01:41.000 Default.

02:01:42.000 I don't know.

02:01:43.000 People should learn how to do some hard work or something.

02:01:45.000 24 trillion is owed to Americans, though, right?

02:01:47.000 I think 24 trillion is owed to Americans.

02:01:49.000 And by the way, of the next 16, we'll sell a couple trillion to the Chinese, a couple trillion to the Japanese, and we'll owe it to ourselves. 0.88

02:01:57.000 So you've got a hard stop, and we do need to start winding it down, I guess.

02:01:59.000 So this has been absolutely awesome to sit here with you guys and have conversations.

02:02:03.000 The question is, how do you broadcast From the Capitol.

02:02:07.000 You're on YouTube.

02:02:07.000 You're in the Capitol.

02:02:08.000 I come here.

02:02:09.000 I come here.

02:02:11.000 My file's been taken because I got four months in a federal prison coming up.

02:02:15.000 My file's been sent to the Bureau of Prisons already.

02:02:17.000 I can't even come in the building.

02:02:19.000 There's enough offense to go around.

02:02:21.000 What do I have to do to get on a war room?

02:02:23.000 The first time we come down here... You're a hero.

02:02:25.000 We'd love to book you.

02:02:26.000 The first time we come, half the channels on our mixer aren't working.

02:02:29.000 And we don't know why.

02:02:30.000 We can't figure it out.

02:02:31.000 Because we do this all the time.

02:02:31.000 It makes no sense.

02:02:32.000 We have the mobile setup.

02:02:33.000 So we're like, we're going to come here.

02:02:35.000 We're going to make sure it works.

02:02:36.000 Everything's working perfectly.

02:02:37.000 We sound check.

02:02:38.000 Everything sounds great.

02:02:39.000 Then all of a sudden, half an hour before the show, the board just stops working outright.

02:02:43.000 It's producing sound.

02:02:44.000 The computer won't take it.

02:02:45.000 And I'm like, this makes no sense.

02:02:47.000 So we put one of the headphone outs into our ATEM.

02:02:51.000 Everything's working perfectly.

02:02:53.000 Then as soon as we click live, the audio just drops to like half levels and we're like... Wait till we do War Room Capital.

02:03:01.000 Right before War Room Prison Break.

02:03:03.000 Hey, I gotta text.

02:03:04.000 It's awesome to see you on Tim Pool's show.

02:03:06.000 I watch him a lot.

02:03:07.000 By the way, thank you so much.

02:03:07.000 Cool, man.

02:03:07.000 I love it.

02:03:07.000 I appreciate it.

02:03:08.000 I gotta go do Royce White.

02:03:10.000 Right on, absolutely.

02:03:11.000 Go to another YouTube show.

02:03:12.000 We're wrapping up, but I will say, I think it would be awesome if, I mean, next time there's big stuff going on in Washington, if we could do more of this stuff, that would be absolutely fantastic.

02:03:20.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:03:21.000 No, no, no.

02:03:21.000 We've got to bring Gates and Congressman Bishop to Harper's Ferry.

02:03:26.000 I'm down for that, too.

02:03:27.000 He's been there before.

02:03:28.000 They've got to go.

02:03:28.000 You've been there.

02:03:29.000 I left bread crumbs so I can find my way.

02:03:31.000 He has to.

02:03:32.000 Wait until you see our new studio show.

02:03:33.000 Conor's gonna do Shutter.

02:03:34.000 Has to go to Harpers Ferry.

02:03:35.000 My wife wants to go skateboard there. 1.00

02:03:37.000 She's a big skateboarder. 1.00

02:03:38.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:39.000 Yeah, we'll do a music video.

02:03:41.000 I think it'd be fantastic.

02:03:42.000 We could have you in the music video.

02:03:44.000 She can sing and then we'll trigger the corporate liberal press. 1.00

02:03:46.000 They'll be freaking out.

02:03:47.000 Do you ever mix the skateboarding in the music videos?

02:03:50.000 No, I mean, we could.

02:03:51.000 I'm just saying.

02:03:52.000 Gentlemen, this has been absolutely incredible.

02:03:54.000 I really do appreciate it.

02:03:55.000 This has been fantastic.

02:03:57.000 We've got to do it again.

02:03:57.000 You guys can follow me at TimCast.

02:04:01.000 You can become a member at TimCast.com if you want us to do more of this.

02:04:04.000 The way things have been going economically, I think we are only surviving right now, and I mean this because of the membership system that we have at TimCast.com.

02:04:12.000 Ads will not support us.

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02:04:22.000 But because you guys become members at TimCast.com, I haven't really worried about it.

02:04:25.000 So, so long as you are, you believe in us and you keep supporting us, we'll keep doing more stuff like this.

02:04:29.000 Do you guys want to shout anything out?

02:04:31.000 I got a podcast called Firebrand.

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02:04:38.000 So, if you can't get enough, There's more out there for you.

02:04:41.000 Great to be with you, Tim.

02:04:42.000 Enjoyed being here.

02:04:43.000 Thank you so much for allowing us to come down to the Capitol again and do this.

02:04:46.000 I mean, it's a tremendous opportunity for us.

02:04:49.000 Matt, I think the work you do is absolutely fantastic.

02:04:51.000 Both of you guys in the fight over the speakership, we were all laughing, we were cheering when we were doing the show, because it really did, it felt like somebody was actually just standing up for so many Americans who are tired of the machine.

02:05:03.000 So with that being said, thank you all so much for everything.

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