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00:00:24.000 We got new information about that leftist who got killed in New York City, and there's a lot to add to it, because there's some corrections that I wanna make, and some points I wanna make.

00:00:33.000 We watched the video, of course, uncensored, of how it all went down.

00:00:37.000 And, uh, Andy Ngo has this tweet, which I will bring up for you.

00:00:42.000 And, uh, let me...

00:00:45.000 There we go.

00:00:46.000 Alright, where are we at?

00:00:47.000 So, Andy No tweets, The police do not protect you, AKABBLM. 1.00

00:00:51.000 Ryan Carson's girlfriend, Claudia V. Morales, is a cop-hating BLM activist.

00:00:55.000 She was at a BLM riot in Boston 2020, blaming police for violence when they tried to arrest rioters.

00:01:01.000 There's rumors going around, I don't know if these are true, that she refused to give a description to the police of the murderer, and they are now looking for this guy.

00:01:11.000 What I want to add is last night I said, you know, this lady did not know basic first aid. 0.72

00:01:15.000 And she just stood there and watched her boyfriend die, which is true. 1.00

00:01:19.000 But there are a lot of questions that have arisen due to the money she's making.

00:01:23.000 And, you know, I got questions.

00:01:24.000 Apparently she's raised $54,000 already.

00:01:24.000 I got questions.

00:01:28.000 Here's the full video, right?

00:01:29.000 We're not actually playing, I'm just gonna describe it, right?

00:01:31.000 These two people are sitting on a bus facing businesses, not the street, at 4 a.m.

00:01:37.000 This woman has her hands in her face and is looking down, and this guy is also looking down.

00:01:42.000 At no point do either of them look up at the guy who's walking past.

00:01:45.000 They get up from the bus bench and begin walking away.

00:01:48.000 The argument, or the story being told by a lot of people, is that they're waiting for a bus.

00:01:51.000 They clearly were not waiting for a bus.

00:01:53.000 They had just got back from a wedding.

00:01:55.000 I wonder if they were breaking up.

00:01:58.000 That's why they're sitting on a bench at four in the morning, and she's got her hands over her face, and they weren't really waiting for a bus.

00:02:04.000 I wonder if what really happened was that they were, like, uh, sitting, you know, they're getting back from the wedding, they're talking, and they say, we need to talk, and they end up sitting outside having a long conversation, or something like that happened.

00:02:16.000 I don't know for sure.

00:02:17.000 But, they get up from the bus stop, and start walking towards this guy.

00:02:21.000 After he gets stabbed, she does nothing.

00:02:25.000 I kinda don't think she cared about the guy.

00:02:27.000 She doesn't act surprised. It would explain some of the actions happening right now and I think

00:02:34.000 you know we definitely need more context to exactly what was happening here. I think I want

00:02:37.000 to hear her side of the story but the camera, the surveillance footage does say a lot. I think it's

00:02:45.000 fair to assume that they were probably you know drunk, that they had some alcohol, that they

00:02:49.000 weren't kind of coherent.

00:02:51.000 It's four o'clock in the morning.

00:02:52.000 They could be just also exhausted and tired after partying and hammered and drunk and just having their hands in their face after traveling, you know, from Long Island, which is a long trek from New York City.

00:03:05.000 People are sharing a picture where, allegedly her, in front of a license plate that says K. Marks. 0.98

00:03:11.000 So Andy Ngo posted this video, but this is the censored version, of course.

00:03:16.000 And, uh... I just think the whole thing's really strange.

00:03:20.000 You know what I mean?

00:03:21.000 Right now, she's fundraising off of this, and the question is, why?

00:03:25.000 Why is the girlfriend fundraising for this? 1.00

00:03:28.000 They're like, oh, to deal with the hardship.

00:03:30.000 It's like, I kind of just think these people are evil and she's making money off of it.

00:03:34.000 Well, she raised $60,000 and in her GoFundMe, she says that she wants to take the money so she doesn't have to work, so she could grieve. 1.00

00:03:45.000 Fucking shit, dude. 0.99

00:03:46.000 Again, I don't know exactly what's going on here. 1.00

00:03:49.000 I think we can interpret things in many different ways, but this is, you know, a big incident that I think a lot of people are using politically.

00:03:57.000 There's still a tragedy here.

00:03:59.000 I think it deserves to be called out, but I think we're still connecting the dots here to the larger meaning of all of this, other than the political ramifications.

00:04:10.000 Also, for the record, Seamus just ran away with his tail between his legs. 1.00

00:04:13.000 He was a total coward. 0.99

00:04:14.000 If you put his camera on, you could see that he When I found out that she raised all this money, I was immediately like, she doesn't give a shit about this guy. 1.00

00:04:22.000 and staying away from any kind of debate or real serious conversation since he is not a proper adult. 0.97

00:04:27.000 When I found out that she raised all this money, I was immediately like, 0.99

00:04:31.000 she ain't give a shit about this guy. She's just like, ooh, I can make money off this. 0.99

00:04:35.000 I don't know.

00:04:36.000 It's hard to say, because you could always, you know, interpret the worst, you could always interpret the best, but let's do the steel man and the straw man argument here.

00:04:46.000 You know, let's do the best case scenario and the worst case scenario.

00:04:49.000 Okay.

00:04:50.000 Her boyfriend was stabbed and killed in front of her, and then she goes on the internet and says, please donate money to me so I don't have to work anymore.

00:04:58.000 want to do them any favors, right? If you want to do them any kind of legitimacy

00:05:02.000 and you want to connect the dots in a favorable way, you could say they were

00:05:06.000 hammered, they were drunk, they were disoriented, they didn't know what was

00:05:08.000 going on. She was in shock after seeing Knife. After having her

00:05:14.000 boyfriend stabbed and having a guy spit at her and cursed at her, she probably 1.00

00:05:18.000 is dealing with a lot of trauma. Again, I'm just saying, hey, if we're gonna

00:05:21.000 be connecting the dots here...

00:05:24.000 I'm just saying, let's give them the best benefit of the doubt, and then let's give them the worst benefit of the doubt.

00:05:27.000 The best benefit of the doubt is not that she knew he was stabbed.

00:05:30.000 The best benefit of the doubt is that she did not know he was stabbed, and that's why she's not freaking out.

00:05:34.000 And that's likely what happened.

00:05:35.000 Most people don't know.

00:05:37.000 I bet she doesn't even know he's holding a knife.

00:05:38.000 He's holding a six-inch blade in his right hand.

00:05:40.000 It took me a couple times to notice that it was a knife.

00:05:42.000 And when he slams into him several times, she didn't know he got stabbed.

00:05:45.000 You can almost see the shock after she, after she, at, like, there's almost a moment if you wait for it, like, when she looks.

00:05:51.000 Hold on.

00:05:52.000 Let's go face the mic, my friend.

00:05:53.000 Oh, sorry.

00:05:54.000 You almost, like, right there, it's like she suddenly gets a realization of the severity of the injury.

00:06:01.000 She thought he was punched.

00:06:02.000 Yeah, probably. 1.00

00:06:02.000 Because these people are such pampered, fucking, pathetic babies. 1.00

00:06:09.000 I'm sorry, dude. 1.00

00:06:10.000 Look, what really triggers me about this is that I have been in many high-risk situations in my life where fucking idiots have nearly gotten me killed. 0.99

00:06:22.000 When I see shit like this, I just get really, really pissed off. 1.00

00:06:25.000 I get really, really pissed off. 1.00

00:06:27.000 Now, this guy got stabbed in the heart.

00:06:29.000 That's what I want to correct.

00:06:29.000 She ain't saving him.

00:06:30.000 I said the other day that he may have had a sucking chest wound, and it's so crazy because she could have saved his life if she just had heard one sentence from a first aid training course, but the police said the knife went to his heart.

00:06:42.000 He's dead.

00:06:43.000 Sorry. 0.99

00:06:44.000 The crazy thing about it, though, is everything they did wrong, every fucking thing they did wrong, and this video just infuriates me. 0.94

00:06:52.000 I, uh, I've told these stories before, and there's only a small handful of these stories. 0.97

00:06:56.000 I'm in Ferguson.

00:06:58.000 And, uh, I'm with a friend of mine, he's a reporter, he covers conflict, we both do, when we hear gunshots.

00:07:04.000 We hear shots being fired from relatively far away, and you hear the... ...zipping over our head, we hit the deck immediately. 0.99

00:07:12.000 And there's a journalist just standing there, ignoring it, and then the other reporter's like, GET THE FUCK DOWN NOW! 1.00

00:07:19.000 Motherfuckers, dude! 1.00

00:07:21.000 And then there was another moment where, uh, a second time at Ferguson when they announced that Darren Wilson was, uh, acquitted. 1.00

00:07:26.000 Gunshots ring out instantly.

00:07:28.000 Bang! 1.00

00:07:29.000 I'm on the ground.

00:07:30.000 I look to my right.

00:07:30.000 My filmer's on the ground.

00:07:32.000 And there's an ABC News producer looking around going, those fireworks? 0.99

00:07:35.000 Now that stuff never put me at risk, but it's infuriating to see that, because I know that if that dude gets shot, I'm the one who's got to stand up with active gunshots and try and save this motherfucker's life. 1.00

00:07:48.000 But I've actually been in circumstances like when I was in Venezuela, when a crowd of people started screaming and running for dear life from the National Guard, who were armed and had been reportedly shooting at students earlier, And when I told these guys, go now, west, and I start running perpendicular to where the National Guard and where the protests are, they stood there like fucking morons. 0.99

00:08:12.000 And after I took cover, they walk over like, what's happening? 0.99

00:08:15.000 What's going on?

00:08:17.000 So situational awareness.

00:08:18.000 It's just... A lot of people don't have that.

00:08:20.000 A lot of people panic.

00:08:21.000 A lot of people freak out. 1.00

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00:09:31.000 I grew up on the south side of Chicago.

00:09:32.000 Haha, I know, everyone's heard it. 0.98

00:09:35.000 I'm getting off of 290 onto Independence with my brother, when for no fucking reason, a guy points a gun out of his car and shoots at us. 0.98

00:09:44.000 That's Chicago. 0.86

00:09:46.000 So I get in- I- I get in- in- in- in rides every so often when I'm in Chicago with these- these, you know, yuppie western suburb skateboarder guys.

00:09:54.000 And oh, they get so bent out of shape when we're in Chicago and someone cuts them off or brake checks them and they start screaming and flipping people off.

00:10:01.000 And I always get super pissed. 1.00

00:10:02.000 I- Shut your fucking mouth right now, dude. 1.00

00:10:05.000 You don't know what you are getting yourself into when you flick off the wrong person. 1.00

00:10:10.000 You, being emotionally satisfied with your middle finger, could trigger some fucking lunatic to pull out a gun and put a bullet in your head for no fucking reason. 1.00

00:10:17.000 On the south side of Chicago, you insult someone, they kill you. 1.00

00:10:22.000 That's why there's so much death.

00:10:24.000 But these people who are pampered and grew up in these cushy areas don't get it.

00:10:27.000 Now to be fair, I also had friends in the western suburbs who are the exact opposite.

00:10:31.000 And, you know, I'm driving through the west side of Chicago on my way to the skate park, and I had one friend who was, like, hyperventilating in panic, and I'm like, dude, calm down.

00:10:39.000 Like, yes, I totally get how bad it could be.

00:10:42.000 But here's what I see with this.

00:10:44.000 The reason why I'm really pissed off.

00:10:46.000 For one, my personal experience is that people who have put me at risk give me a personal bias.

00:10:51.000 But the reason we are seeing high crime, the reason why there's a story about a father of three being shot in the head and killed, I'm sorry dude.

00:11:02.000 This dude's dead.

00:11:03.000 I get it.

00:11:03.000 It's sad.

00:11:04.000 But this guy was an activist and advocate defending criminals and advocating for policies that get people killed.

00:11:11.000 And I just can't stand it.

00:11:14.000 When I do everything right, and I'm like, I'm not even talking about war zones, because I know my capabilities, I know my limitations.

00:11:20.000 When it came to the conflict stuff I would cover, I'd say, if it goes full-scale war, I'm gone before that happens, because I don't have the skills or abilities for that.

00:11:28.000 You've got to get someone with actual military experience to cover these stories.

00:11:30.000 I'm in urban conflict.

00:11:31.000 When Egypt went full revolution, I said, next day, we're gone.

00:11:34.000 They're shutting down bridges, they're locking people up, and they're murdering people.

00:11:37.000 I can't do that.

00:11:39.000 But I try to do things right to make sure that I'm not putting anybody else at risk. 0.99

00:11:42.000 But the people in these cities, Who are too stupid to realize someone just got stabbed several times in the chest and just stands there saying, get him, get him. 1.00

00:11:49.000 And then she doesn't even call the police because she hates the police. 1.00

00:11:52.000 They are putting everyone at New York at risk.

00:11:55.000 They are causing these mass exoduses from these cities.

00:11:58.000 They are making the problem of crime worse.

00:12:00.000 They are making you, good law-abiding citizen who does everything right to keep your family safe, they are putting you at risk.

00:12:06.000 That's why I'm pissed off.

00:12:07.000 There's a Daily Mail article and screenshot of it going around talking about how this Ryan Carson guy would, quote, feel sorry for violent teenager who stabbed them to death and think of him as victim of a broken system, says friends.

00:12:23.000 That's right.

00:12:24.000 And that's a crazy headline. 0.99

00:12:25.000 And my gut reaction to all of this Processing all of this is fucking hell, man. 0.99

00:12:31.000 I feel sad for an individual like this. 0.98

00:12:34.000 I feel they are so far gone in so many different ways, where I'm kind of left asking myself, can they be helped?

00:12:43.000 I don't know, man.

00:12:43.000 They are the facilitators of the crisis, and I just...

00:12:52.000 I-I-I-I can't have sympathy for these people who are, you know, pouring gasoline. 0.85

00:12:56.000 I-I watch a video where a guy throws a gas can onto a fire and it explodes and bur- and he bursts into flames, and I'm like, that sucks, man.

00:13:02.000 I wish it didn't happen, but like...

00:13:03.000 What do you think was going to happen when you throw a gas can into a fire?

00:13:08.000 Look, at a certain point we have to recognize that we as a society cannot save everyone's life.

00:13:14.000 Okay?

00:13:15.000 If the turkey wants to look up at the sky during a rainstorm and swallow all the water and die, that's not really true.

00:13:21.000 They don't really do that.

00:13:21.000 But for all the turkeys that perhaps one day saw the rain and looked up and held their mouths open and drowned, well, Now there's no more of the turkeys that do that, I guess.

00:13:30.000 The point is, we keep trying to save people who are mentally deficient. 0.99

00:13:35.000 Conservatives do this. 1.00

00:13:37.000 I don't consider myself conservative, but this is a point I bring up to many of them, as you're like, you're desperately trying to save the lives of people who hate you and are so stupid, they're like lemmings walking off a cliff. 0.99

00:13:47.000 And the conservatives are like, yes, because we value human life. 0.99

00:13:49.000 And I'm like, okay, well, you realize the problem is twofold.

00:13:52.000 Psychopaths who are setting fire to the system, and conservatives desperately trying to save their lives.

00:13:57.000 I don't know what else to tell you, man.

00:13:58.000 I'm not making a prescriptive statement here.

00:14:00.000 I'm not telling you what you should or shouldn't do.

00:14:02.000 I'm saying if you preserve the lives of people who are setting fire to your house, you will have more house fires.

00:14:07.000 That's it.

00:14:08.000 Mike, do you think there's any saving these people, or do you think they're lost causes?

00:14:13.000 You know, it's getting so systemic now, this...

00:14:20.000 This type of story, I mean, I almost remember when it became a novel occurrence and like, whoa, they really believe, they've really drunk their own, you know, sort of, I don't know, LSD mixed drink.

00:14:35.000 Fentanyl mixed drink.

00:14:37.000 You know, and now I feel like I see these type of stories every week and You know, there's almost no amount... I wonder if they don't see the surveillance videos in their own news ecosystem to even understand the scale at which these types of things are happening.

00:15:01.000 By the way, this criminal's still not been arrested yet, right?

00:15:05.000 I mean, this guy's irises are locked on to the surveillance.

00:15:08.000 I mean, why do we have Big Daddy National Security State scanning us at the airport?

00:15:14.000 If the only one thing I could think of, if someone is literally on camera committing first, you know, second-degree murder, I mean, you could argue it's crime, passion, whatever, but this is like this is a daily occurrence and the rates at which people

00:15:32.000 don't get caught or punished for this is part and parcel of this like anarcho-tyranny system

00:15:39.000 where you have a justice department that it makes you feel helpless but then there's so many other

00:15:51.000 illegitimacies about our system currently that you know you almost wonder if there are sort

00:15:57.000 of paramilitary elements about this.

00:16:00.000 I mean, I'll give you an example.

00:16:02.000 I was in D.C.

00:16:03.000 the other day, and I hadn't been back in a long time.

00:16:06.000 A long time.

00:16:08.000 And I was walking around the White House area, and I'd forgotten that the main square had its name changed to Black Lives Matter Plaza.

00:16:18.000 And, you know, and this is one block from the White House, 16th Street, you know, versus 17th Street there.

00:16:23.000 And, you know, we all know what happened like that that summer and some of the strangeness of that with there being no prosecutions.

00:16:29.000 In fact, them getting paid by several city counties as well as major Chamber of Commerce companies for doing what they did.

00:16:40.000 And then I'm walking through the plaza over the signage, and I see the next thing on the block is AFL-CIO.

00:16:48.000 And the next thing is the American Federation of Labor Union.

00:16:52.000 I'm looking at this and I'm like, wait, okay, hold on a second.

00:16:55.000 This is like, the block literally adjacent to the White House is all left-wing street paramilitary groups and their hubs.

00:17:07.000 And I remember myself getting jumped on the way to the White House when I worked there.

00:17:14.000 And there was nothing, you know, there were secret service agents if you were able to cross the street.

00:17:19.000 But that was it, and this is the White House.

00:17:22.000 You know, at the time I was on the phone, the person thought I'd gotten killed.

00:17:26.000 They can't even protect you.

00:17:28.000 But that's the thing, that was the Trump administration.

00:17:30.000 You don't see these rent-a-riot things popping up around the Biden administration.

00:17:36.000 And I had this distinct feeling, sorry I'll make this shorter, but I had this weird feeling when I was walking around D.C.

00:17:42.000 this week, when I came to it, where I thought, Oh my god, imagine a populist Republican like Trump winning power again and you are literally under street paramilitary siege on the block adjoining you.

00:17:59.000 Yeah.

00:18:00.000 Well, so, so, I have a question, I guess, is what I'm thinking about.

00:18:04.000 Mike.

00:18:05.000 If, uh, you were standing outside of a house, and a guy walks past you with a can of gasoline, and he says that he's gonna go in there and burn that house to the ground, and you know, and so you're like, hold on, so you walk up to the, you walk up to the, you know, the window, and you look inside, and there's this guy dumping gasoline all over the place, and there's another guy.

00:18:25.000 A leftist activist standing there watching him do it with a shocked look on his face, shaking his head, and then the activist goes, do you need any matches?

00:18:33.000 And the guy's like, actually, yeah, I do.

00:18:34.000 And he goes, here you go.

00:18:35.000 And the guy walks to the door, lights the match, sets the house on fire with the activist still inside, who then begins screaming for help.

00:18:41.000 Do you run inside to help the activist?

00:18:45.000 Do I run inside the screaming?

00:18:46.000 Run inside the burning building because there's an activist inside screaming, an activist who had supplied the matches to the arsonist. 0.99

00:18:52.000 Good question.

00:18:54.000 Because my view on this is, if you are in, say, like, let's say you're in, like, a crowded place.

00:19:01.000 And, uh, you know, there's a riot.

00:19:03.000 And someone gets shot.

00:19:05.000 And you know you're probably the only one who can save that person's life.

00:19:09.000 But that person did, you know, helped facilitate the shooter, instigated the fight, screamed at him and swore, and started it.

00:19:18.000 Do you say to yourself, you know what, I'm going to run full speed out of this and stay away from it and let them deal with it?

00:19:24.000 Or do you say, I have to save this person's life even though they did cause this?

00:19:30.000 I think for me I've come to the point where after actually experiencing a lot of this, I was always so angry because I felt an obligation to keep the people around me safe, even if I didn't know them, especially in these conflict situations.

00:19:43.000 And then I got to a point where I was just like, I cannot get myself killed because the chicken ran full speed into the car's grill.

00:19:52.000 You know what I mean?

00:19:52.000 The person stood in the highway screaming and running towards a vehicle, and what am I supposed to do?

00:19:56.000 Run out and try and stop them?

00:19:58.000 If it's an innocent person who was caught in an accident, yeah, but...

00:20:03.000 Yeah, this is tough because, you know, in this case, there's something so terrifying about it, to me, because you look at that and you look at the obvious mistakes that were made, as you mentioned, in terms of situational awareness, and you want to say, I wouldn't do that in that situation.

00:20:25.000 I would be more on the ball.

00:20:26.000 I'd be more on my feet.

00:20:27.000 And you're probably right.

00:20:28.000 You probably, and I don't mean you, I mean like me when I saw that video.

00:20:32.000 I thought I wouldn't have done that.

00:20:33.000 I wouldn't have said chill.

00:20:34.000 I wouldn't have, you know, I would have, you know, escorted my girl across the street.

00:20:38.000 I would have read the situation better.

00:20:40.000 I wouldn't have put my hand out that way.

00:20:42.000 I maybe would have, you know, tried to, you know, something else.

00:20:46.000 And then The terror of actually being in it, and maybe even if you did the right thing, you still get stabbed through the heart.

00:20:59.000 The guy still gets away with murder.

00:21:01.000 Like, I could see a situation where you, you know, you dot your I's and you cross your T's and just... What this is now is a systemic thing that we have with the philosophy on crime, with the philosophy on law enforcement, with the underpinnings of, you know, this guy's philosophy that is more what I focus on when I see the video.

00:21:26.000 Even if police were strengthened and funded, these things still happen.

00:21:31.000 You know, Luke's got a sign saying I'd rather have a gun in my hand than a cop on the phone.

00:21:36.000 And so the reason why things like this are substantially less likely to happen to, say, any one of us here is we're more likely to have guns at the time.

00:21:43.000 And typically do.

00:21:45.000 So, first of all, you know, I go through this video and I watched like a deep analysis explaining what happened and it's just like, this soft, delicate man of liberal sensibilities had zero situational awareness.

00:22:02.000 And it is remarkable to me.

00:22:03.000 I cannot fathom The degree to which he was not paying attention.

00:22:09.000 Me?

00:22:09.000 I'm just not like that.

00:22:10.000 I'll tell you a story.

00:22:11.000 I'm at Wilson Skatepark in Chicago, and I'm sitting by the Kidney Bowl.

00:22:15.000 It's the big pool section where people are skating the vert stuff.

00:22:19.000 And I see on the highway the giant Red Bull can.

00:22:24.000 off in the distance.

00:22:25.000 And I get up and I walk into the parking lot, and sure enough, the Red Bull can, car pulls right up,

00:22:30.000 and I say, I'll take a Red Bull.

00:22:31.000 And then, as the lady hands me two Red Bulls, the entire park comes running out.

00:22:36.000 Like, in my life, I'm just like, I've always been paying attention,

00:22:39.000 and I think maybe it's because I grew up in, you know, in a dangerous place. You have to.

00:22:43.000 And then I see people like this, who are really dumb, 1.00

00:22:47.000 really ignorant, burn down the system all around us, 1.00

00:22:50.000 make our lives more dangerous, put our children, our friends, our families at risk. 0.98

00:22:54.000 And you watch this video and he doesn't look, not one time.

00:22:57.000 He walks towards the crazy guy shoving things.

00:23:00.000 He would have thought he was a victim of a broken system, says the Daily Mail, which is exactly what he did.

00:23:04.000 He saw this young, this kid's 18, knocking things over and screaming, and he probably was like, do you need help, man?

00:23:10.000 And pissed the kid off.

00:23:12.000 He said that.

00:23:12.000 No, I'm saying he probably said something like that.

00:23:14.000 Because then the kid goes, what the fuck are you looking at? 1.00

00:23:15.000 I will kill you right now, motherfucker. 1.00

00:23:17.000 This is the kind of guy who walks up to a deranged psychopath and thinks he just needs a social worker. 1.00

00:23:23.000 You know what the quickest way to antagonize someone is?

00:23:27.000 Ask them if something's wrong.

00:23:28.000 You see a crazy guy in the street, look him in the eyes, say something wrong, man, and they have just found a target for their anger.

00:23:35.000 You don't make eye contact, you back away.

00:23:37.000 First of all, dude should have been paying attention. 0.99

00:23:39.000 If he did, they wouldn't have got up and started walking towards a dude who was smashing shit. 0.99

00:23:43.000 As soon as they saw him knock shit over, they should have just quietly turned around, and then he could have just started walking. 0.99

00:23:49.000 Pay attention to the shadows, pay attention to what he hears. 0.99

00:23:51.000 If he hears footsteps behind him or the guy's yelling, he can turn around, tell his girlfriend, start going now.

00:23:56.000 Walk.

00:23:57.000 Now. 0.54

00:23:58.000 Turn around, and slowly back away in a defensive position, and say nothing, and just slowly back the fuck away. 0.97

00:24:03.000 Instead, he engages with him, shoves him, fights him, and doesn't even know there's a bench next to him, and then trips over it, smacks his face on it, falls over, and is murdered. 0.95

00:24:10.000 Anyway, we should go to callers. 1.00

00:24:11.000 Fucked. 0.99

00:24:13.000 Alright. 1.00

00:24:14.000 Let's do that.

00:24:15.000 Um... I need to speak to... them last.

00:24:20.000 So yeah, let's talk to El Mirachi.

00:24:21.000 Uh, how are you today?

00:24:22.000 today. What about this? Yeah, now I can hear you.

00:24:31.000 Hey, how's it going?

00:24:33.000 Pretty good.

00:24:33.000 Yourself?

00:24:35.000 I'm good.

00:24:36.000 Um, let me, uh, pull up my question real quick.

00:24:38.000 All right.

00:24:39.000 Take your time.

00:24:40.000 No worries.

00:24:42.000 Not too much time.

00:24:45.000 Okay.

00:24:45.000 Um, for, for Tim, what does he think about starting a pod learning foundation type organization where I think it's a great idea.

00:25:00.000 I wouldn't know how to do it.

00:25:02.000 That definitely seems like a project for James Lindsay though.

00:25:04.000 Well, at the very least, James Lindsay would know better than I would when it comes to education and stuff like that.

00:25:10.000 But yeah, I think one thing that we'd probably need to build when we're talking about homeschooling and pods is Private pod learning.

00:25:19.000 I think there's a, look, you want a business idea?

00:25:22.000 You want to be rich?

00:25:23.000 I love all these dudes who are like, I'm going to teach you how to get rich quick, man.

00:25:26.000 And you know, I was watching, I was reading this article in the Daily Mail from a woman.

00:25:29.000 She was like a millionaire by 28. 1.00

00:25:31.000 And here's how she did it. 0.99

00:25:32.000 And then it's like, she's talking about all the entrepreneurial things she did. 0.89

00:25:35.000 The other women are just like saying they do porn and stuff. 1.00

00:25:37.000 But there's a business opportunity right now to create private pod schools.

00:25:43.000 You make a website, you make business cards, you put up flyers, you buy ads online, get some nice production quality, and you find some teachers, or if you're a teacher yourself, and say, sign up for our pod classes today, where the teacher comes to, you know, you and your friends will get together, and then they have a private tutoring session for all the kids together, and that's a big business opportunity right now.

00:26:04.000 I think you'd make yourself a millionaire.

00:26:06.000 Download an app, or I should say, make an app called like PodLearner, where you can

00:26:12.000 effectively scroll through tutors and teachers, and they can explain their values and the

00:26:18.000 things they teach, and it's like Uber for teaching for your kids.

00:26:22.000 Boom, there you go.

00:26:23.000 Uber for everything.

00:26:24.000 I like that idea.

00:26:26.000 Dana Martin is working on some very interesting projects that are very similar to this.

00:26:31.000 Check her out. 0.99

00:26:31.000 I think you would be very happy to see what she's doing. 0.99

00:26:34.000 She's one of the biggest advocates of homeschooling, but also radical homeschooling.

00:26:40.000 She does it in a very interesting way.

00:26:41.000 It might not work for everyone, but I think those concepts are worth kind of looking into and delving into as of course she deals with a lot of the hippy dippy stuff that I think is important to kind of look at.

00:26:54.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:26:55.000 Was that good?

00:26:55.000 I hope that was a sufficient answer.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, that was great.

00:26:58.000 One thing I wanted to add about it, too, is adding a feature of kind of like an area search, kind of like what Public School has, which I think would be pretty cool to have on there.

00:27:10.000 I mean, honestly, Public School could easily just add that function.

00:27:14.000 Michael Seifert's going to be here tomorrow.

00:27:15.000 I'll ask him.

00:27:16.000 They do all businesses.

00:27:20.000 You know, I wonder to what degree they could add this kind of search.

00:27:23.000 If they really want to be, like, the anti-Amazon, then services should be a big component.

00:27:28.000 And being able to search, I mean, that right there I think will take Public Square to the next level.

00:27:34.000 If you can load up the app and be like, I need a masseuse, I need a teacher, I need a car mechanic, and then you can find, like, that's huge, man.

00:27:42.000 If you need a trade done, right now, we're struggling with, like, how do we find contractors?

00:27:46.000 How do we find an electrician?

00:27:48.000 And so we're going through word of mouth and Google.

00:27:51.000 Dude, if I could just pull up on Public Square and type, like, search, what do you need?

00:27:55.000 Service, electrician, and then it gives me a list of people in my area and they're all like, we love America, I'll be like, based.

00:28:01.000 Yeah, based thumbtack.

00:28:03.000 Yeah, and then you could be like, tutoring, schooling.

00:28:06.000 I mean, I don't know if that makes... I think if Public Square is going to be anti-Amazon and be that big, that should be a component.

00:28:12.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:28:12.000 But yeah, man.

00:28:13.000 Right on, was that good?

00:28:17.000 Yeah, awesome answer.

00:28:18.000 I wanted to add real quick, Tim, you're the biggest role model in my life, and you're the reason why I've turned my life around.

00:28:24.000 And Seamus, quit stealing spoons, because you're still my favorite.

00:28:27.000 Goodbye, everybody.

00:28:27.000 Yes, Seamus, stop stealing!

00:28:29.000 Thanks for calling in. 1.00

00:28:30.000 You thief! 1.00

00:28:31.000 You robber! 1.00

00:28:32.000 Seamus is just totally zoned out.

00:28:33.000 He's having headphones on?

00:28:35.000 Yeah, he can't hear anything.

00:28:37.000 He's looking at us and smiling.

00:28:38.000 He pooped himself.

00:28:38.000 He totally pooped himself, and he's scared.

00:28:41.000 He's a coward. 1.00

00:28:42.000 Can't even defend his own lineage and family. 1.00

00:28:45.000 He's probably just watching Simpsons reruns right now.

00:28:47.000 Shameful Seamus.

00:28:49.000 Alright, next up.

00:28:50.000 Alright, Endil, you are with us.

00:28:52.000 How are you today?

00:28:54.000 Hey there, can you hear me alright?

00:28:55.000 Yeah, loud and clear.

00:28:56.000 Fantastic, thank you for taking my call.

00:28:59.000 I've got a question for Mr. Benz.

00:29:01.000 So one of the biggest stories, biggest developments in online freedom, certainly from a public perspective at least, has been Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter.

00:29:11.000 And so in the wake of that, there's been a debate about what Elon Musk's true intentions are.

00:29:18.000 Some people think he's legitimate.

00:29:20.000 Some people think he has an ulterior motive or he's like secretly working for someone or whatever.

00:29:25.000 It seems that to me, especially with some of his recent things that he's been tweeting and retweeting, I kind of think that maybe he's for real.

00:29:35.000 I want to ask, with your experience, what do you think?

00:29:39.000 What do you think about Elon?

00:29:40.000 Yeah, well, it's something very similar to you.

00:29:42.000 I wrote a piece right when he announced the acquisition with my sort of hope for him, but some of the skepticism about being able... We have seen many warriors in this arena with initially noble intentions, Let me back up for a second.

00:30:04.000 The obvious, I don't know if you said this explicitly, but there have been, there's obvious analogies of the X the Everything app to this sort of Weibo, China, I think at one point, I hope I'm not misquoting this, but I think at one point there was a reference to Musk saying something like, oh, China has this thing which is super convenient, it's everything in one app, why doesn't the United States have something like that?

00:30:31.000 It's very easy to draw a straight line between that and something like digital ID and a sort of China-style state control over the interlinkage between communications and commerce that China has because Weibo is their everything app.

00:30:51.000 That being said, the... Musk's ability to withstand the pain box, to borrow a Darren Beattie term, has been remarkable at almost every turn, and where it has not, you can understand how there may be a long-term strategy with some forms of compromise.

00:31:15.000 And if I have the space to flesh it out, I'll... Yeah, so...

00:31:20.000 So right away, the first thing that he did was get rid of this ad council and a lot of the entanglements that organizations like the ADL and some related activist groups had at the company. Now, ADL struck back and cost Twitter about

00:31:42.000 65% of their advertisers, just like they had cost Facebook two years earlier $60

00:31:47.000 billion in ad revenue, together with a bunch of State Department-funded NGOs, to bring a

00:31:52.000 double-digit billionaire, Zuckerberg, There's the question of whether triple digits may be enough to withstand that coordinated civil society encirclement tactic.

00:32:03.000 But in addition to doing that, you've had, I mean, just take what happened a week ago.

00:32:09.000 Aaron Rodricks, who was the head of this election disinformation unit, you know, they called it election integrity, but it was just election censorship.

00:32:19.000 The guy had made statements totally backing government-run censorship out of CISA at DHS.

00:32:26.000 The guy was deeply connected to a CIA censorship network which has been in place at basically all platforms and have been protected because they're instruments of the national security state in terms of who this person was and where he was drawing recruits from.

00:32:44.000 And I could see that being a hard call to get rid of that because this was a network tied to intelligence.

00:32:54.000 Musk caught flak from all the mainstream media when this guy got fired.

00:32:58.000 In fact, even the EU Commission weighed in and said, you know, the firing of this election integrity team is one more reason why X needs to be subjected to the Digital Services Act on disinformation and brought in to make sure that they're censoring the appropriate material.

00:33:14.000 But, like, Musk could have opted not to do those things, and, you know, conservatives or centrists or center-left, you know, reasonable liberals would still be on X. I think that he's He's made compromises with Linda Yaccarino in terms of bringing her in.

00:33:35.000 I think that there are things that are being done to court back advertisers, which are in opposition to the tenets of free speech.

00:33:41.000 And I think actually building that infrastructure on ad money is like building a castle on sand.

00:33:48.000 But on the whole, I have not yet seen someone in the tech space who has been this brave.

00:33:57.000 And people were up against far less than what Musk is.

00:34:03.000 Was that good, Endel?

00:34:04.000 Yeah, no, that's fantastic.

00:34:07.000 Anything else to add?

00:34:09.000 Yeah, actually, if Elon Musk turns out to be for real, if all the pain he's going through turns out to be real, that's incredibly inspiring.

00:34:21.000 I don't know, if you could wish upon a star and have a free agent software developer do anything, build anything to impact the current environment, what would that be?

00:34:33.000 Speech neutral.

00:34:35.000 I would have that person actually take things out rather than... I would have that person look at the code on all of the, you know, database of words related to brand safety and hate speech and misdisc and malinformation.

00:34:51.000 You know, one of the big tasks in front of the company right now at the technological level to take on censorship is that There was such an enormous Jenga tower built within the code itself of all the different trust and safety fillers of all the different targeted communities and all their little proxy words representing them.

00:35:09.000 Everything from elections, public health, to energy, to immigration, to abortion.

00:35:14.000 I mean, regardless of what you feel about those as substantive issues, the fact is, you know, a software engineer can kill an entire idea with a couple lines of code And the discourse is rigged, the public square is slanted on one side of every one of these issues because of the work of these programmers.

00:35:42.000 Now they make their own decisions, they were following the social science and the corporate people, but we need smart, talented software engineers who can read that code and can understand the way it's It's entire architecture is constructed into really peel back those layers to get back to a system of political neutrality and social neutrality that was the hallmark of the early internet.

00:36:05.000 Right on, man.

00:36:06.000 Well, great question, Endel.

00:36:09.000 Really appreciate it.

00:36:10.000 Fantastic.

00:36:10.000 Thank you very much guys.

00:36:11.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:36:13.000 I want to give a shout out to TechWolf because I saw this post.

00:36:16.000 It says, can someone explain to Tim that muscle memory isn't actually memory stored in muscles?

00:36:21.000 I love that because I don't know why anyone would assume that's what I was saying, but let me break it down for you.

00:36:27.000 If you program Kung Fu into your head, your ligaments will not be able to stretch to perform the maneuvers.

00:36:34.000 Yes, you have to be able to grow, develop your muscles, and stretch your body to be able to do most of these moves.

00:36:40.000 Most people don't have the muscles, nor the flexibility, to pull off even a cartwheel.

00:36:47.000 So if you program into your brain the memory and knowledge of how to do a thing that your body can't flex enough to do, it won't happen.

00:36:54.000 That's just it. 0.98

00:36:56.000 I can remember in my mind how to laser flip, but holy fuck, I could not laser flip last week. 0.99

00:37:02.000 But that's so crazy. 0.98

00:37:03.000 I know in my brain exactly how to do it.

00:37:04.000 I remember everything.

00:37:05.000 I used to do it when I was younger.

00:37:07.000 Can't do it anymore.

00:37:08.000 How does that happen?

00:37:09.000 I didn't forget.

00:37:09.000 I may be misremembering, but I think there's a funny Bill Burr joke around watching somebody do a dunk from the foul line and saying, oh, you know, why didn't I think of that?

00:37:26.000 Yeah, so, it's a combination of things, right?

00:37:29.000 You plug someone in, uh, what is this?

00:37:31.000 Well, the guy doubting muscle memory has never done intense physical training before.

00:37:36.000 I suppose, I suppose.

00:37:39.000 Your muscles break down, and they rebuild themselves stronger, and in specific ways that target the things you are trying to do.

00:37:47.000 Skateboarders' center of gravities shift lower because they exercise their legs more than their upper body, creating heavier legs, whereas the typical person's legs make up one-third of their weight.

00:37:56.000 For a lot of skateboarders, their legs are half their weight because they're exercising these muscles and not their upper body.

00:38:00.000 So their upper body stays small and their legs get heavier, but a lower center of gravity improves balance.

00:38:05.000 You can't just memorize that.

00:38:06.000 You can't program how to do these things.

00:38:08.000 But let's jump to the next scholar.

00:38:10.000 Indeed.

00:38:11.000 Gemfire, what is up?

00:38:13.000 How are you today?

00:38:14.000 I am doing good.

00:38:15.000 How are you guys?

00:38:16.000 Doing great.

00:38:17.000 Thank you.

00:38:18.000 Doing well, I guess.

00:38:18.000 Doing well.

00:38:19.000 Yeah, that's proper.

00:38:21.000 But I'm great.

00:38:22.000 I feel great.

00:38:23.000 It's like a half dad joke.

00:38:25.000 Thanks for taking the time, guys.

00:38:27.000 My question is mostly for Mike, but the whole panel can answer.

00:38:31.000 How do we as viewers and consumers on the Internet help in the censorship war beyond just watching and interacting with those that go against the grain?

00:38:40.000 Is there more that we can do than just interacting when we don't have money to give?

00:38:45.000 Yeah, well, first I would say don't undersell the power of just interacting.

00:38:51.000 Oftentimes, what's available strategically isn't possible until enough people are interacting that your elected representatives get the opportunity to be heroes for a large number of people because it's on the tip of everyone's tongues.

00:39:06.000 Oftentimes, just talking about it is what provides the baseline.

00:39:09.000 I'll give you an example.

00:39:12.000 talk for many years about the importance of understanding censorship not as an act but as an industry which is to say that rather than looking at censorship as being the act that a you know that somebody at facebook does at the at a at the very end of a of a funnel understand the economics of of the universities, the NGOs, the foundations, the private sector mercenary firms, the media literacy and fact-checker programs, and the government departments, which are providing funding in 12 different departments right now, over a hundred million over the past year, subsidizing a censorship industry with 200,000 censorship jobs that would not exist without that funding, and the capacity to carry out the censorship

00:39:58.000 is something that can be targeted in a way that is sometimes more effective than trying to, you know, long-arm influence over some mechanical Turk scrolling through, you know, content flagged, you know, at a minimum wage job in a factory in Bangladesh.

00:40:19.000 And what I'm trying to say by that, though, is it It takes a lot of work and a lot of talking to get enough people to understand the industry and the market of the censorship industry and all the different actors and players involved.

00:40:34.000 And that requires people constantly talking about it so that when you use a phrase like that, it's not some foreign concept.

00:40:40.000 So there's a linguistic fluency that has to be developed.

00:40:43.000 There's a sort of news attention to the stories.

00:40:47.000 They have to be shared.

00:40:48.000 They have to be shared with friends and family.

00:40:51.000 You have to lend your spirit energy to that.

00:40:53.000 But at the same time, there's a multi-front offensive on this.

00:40:57.000 There's a Supreme Court case right now which could deliver a knockout blow, potentially, to multiple government agencies' ability to participate in the censorship.

00:41:08.000 market and actions there's There's multiple congressional investigations.

00:41:13.000 There's there's media events like the Twitter files and in an improved literacy within a lot of conservative news about some of these institutions that were only little known before some of them like the Stanford Aaron Observatory or the global disinformation index and in a coterie of many many others, but I wouldn't undersell if you are not Well-resourced.

00:41:36.000 If you are not well-connected, if you don't have the sort of commanding assets of somebody who can make a material difference through doubles and triples and home run swings as an analogy, don't undersell relentlessly batting for singles in terms of amplifying things.

00:41:54.000 You would be surprised with what one year of just small ball, doing your little part, when enough people start doing that, the minnows start to look a lot bigger than the shark.

00:42:06.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:42:10.000 Anything else to add, Gemfire?

00:42:12.000 No, that was really good.

00:42:13.000 Thank you.

00:42:14.000 Right on.

00:42:14.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:42:15.000 Appreciate it.

00:42:15.000 Yeah, fantastic.

00:42:16.000 Alright, next up.

00:42:18.000 Patriot with a zero.

00:42:20.000 Patriot with a zero.

00:42:21.000 What's going on?

00:42:23.000 Ah, questions, questions, we got.

00:42:25.000 So my questions, they actually span from last night's show to this night, and I think they're pressing it to today.

00:42:34.000 But I don't know if you guys seen this at the vote for the ousting of McCarthy, but what are your thoughts on the representative from North Dakota, Kelly Armstrong, his sleazy attack on Matt Gaetz for being at the Democrat podium?

00:42:50.000 I think it was planned to push him over there and then make him look like that was not credible and traitorous by siding with the Dems.

00:42:59.000 I don't like Republicans. 1.00

00:43:00.000 Fuck them. 1.00

00:43:01.000 Me either. 1.00

00:43:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:43:02.000 Not a big fan.

00:43:05.000 But I see what you're saying.

00:43:06.000 They're trying to play this tribal game.

00:43:08.000 Newt Gingrich is.

00:43:10.000 He's anti-Republican.

00:43:11.000 It makes me laugh.

00:43:11.000 I'm like...

00:43:12.000 Oh, I wish I could vote for him twice.

00:43:16.000 Okay, we don't like you, dude.

00:43:17.000 The reason why this is happening is because we're sick of these people and there's enough of us who are not so much Democrat Republican, but anti-establishment. 0.99

00:43:26.000 So they can say whatever the fuck they want. 0.99

00:43:28.000 They can smear him. 0.99

00:43:29.000 I'm just, I'm over it.

00:43:30.000 I don't care.

00:43:31.000 Matt Gaetz is the congressional Molotov cocktail to Donald Trump's presidential Molotov cocktail.

00:43:37.000 Yeah, that's a good way.

00:43:38.000 That's a good analogy.

00:43:40.000 And he's a badass.

00:43:41.000 Or speaker.

00:43:42.000 Speaker mode.

00:43:45.000 If Trump ends up being speaker before he's president.

00:43:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:43:49.000 There you go.

00:43:51.000 Yeah, it's weird how everyone calls us Republicans all the time because we're not Democrats.

00:43:54.000 Just not true.

00:43:56.000 Anyways, anything else to add, my friend?

00:43:59.000 Yeah, I had another thing for Luke.

00:44:01.000 This actually goes to something you said last night.

00:44:04.000 Do you know that if there's no government, people will form groups to protect themselves, their families, and their property, and order it in a collective manner to defend against every group?

00:44:14.000 I see what you're doing here.

00:44:16.000 I'm catching on.

00:44:17.000 I'm catching on.

00:44:18.000 I'm with you, brother.

00:44:20.000 I understand about having a small government.

00:44:23.000 I understand.

00:44:24.000 So you got to understand what the leftists do with their ideology and the progress that they have made comes because they're willing to ask for a lot more and they're willing to of course compromise along the way.

00:44:36.000 I think we as People on the opposite side of that. 0.99

00:44:39.000 I think the Republicans have been cucked so fucking badly. 1.00

00:44:43.000 They're so fucking pathetic. 1.00

00:44:44.000 They don't know what to ask for. 1.00

00:44:45.000 They're disillusioned.

00:44:46.000 I think we should be asking for everything. 0.86

00:44:50.000 We can make concessions along the way, but I think the biggest solution that's going to come through all the bullshit that we're facing is decentralization.

00:44:58.000 So obviously, anarchy to me is the end goal. 0.85

00:45:00.000 No government.

00:45:01.000 Will we ever achieve that?

00:45:02.000 Is that reasonable?

00:45:03.000 Is that something that's actually going to happen?

00:45:05.000 Probably not. 0.99

00:45:07.000 But I think we should still ask for more and push the goalposts a lot further down the field than, of course, what these other soft-handed, soft-ass, pussy-ass, bitch Republicans are fucking doing, saying, hey guys, please, we're just going to implement your policies 10 years after you guys do it. 1.00

00:45:26.000 And they're fucking ridiculous. 1.00

00:45:27.000 They're fucking stupid. 1.00

00:45:28.000 We need to go in the other direction. 1.00

00:45:30.000 Very fast, very quickly.

00:45:32.000 The best direction to head in is anarchy, is total freedom, is no government.

00:45:37.000 Is it going to happen?

00:45:38.000 No.

00:45:38.000 Is it realistic?

00:45:39.000 No, but let's fucking copy what the fuck these assholes are doing and let's do it better. 1.00

00:45:44.000 Right. 1.00

00:45:44.000 If the left keeps saying like, we want, they're not literally saying we want communism. 1.00

00:45:48.000 They're going, we want this policy, which is communist.

00:45:51.000 And then when the Republicans come in, they go, okay, well, how about we give you socialism instead?

00:45:55.000 And they go, okay.

00:45:57.000 How about the right comes out and says, we want to abolish the ATF outright, and we want to... Here's what we do.

00:46:05.000 Republican... See, you know, if I was in Congress, I'd be doing all sorts of crazy-ass bullshit. 0.94

00:46:10.000 File a, you know, get a bill and committee and whatever, and I know it probably won't even go to the floor, but this is why you need to win the speakership. 0.97

00:46:17.000 You need to get someone in there who will do it.

00:46:19.000 And the proposal is...

00:46:21.000 Government universal gun ownership funded by the government.

00:46:25.000 We would fund the creation of the gun distribution, you know, the Department of Gun Services, the DGS, where anyone at the age of 16 can, after completing gun safety courses, get their government-issued handgun and or rifle.

00:46:45.000 You could choose one.

00:46:46.000 You're gonna choose a handgun?

00:46:47.000 Actually, no, I think it's probably better if you're 16, you complete the course, you get an AR-15 with a 30-round mag and a box of ammo, and then if you're 18, you only have to just walk in, and there's no requirements other than you're only allowed to get one.

00:47:02.000 The point of this is, when the Democrats lose their minds and freak out, then the Republicans will go, okay, okay, okay, fine.

00:47:08.000 How about we just Instead of giving people the guns, we remove the restrictions on 30-round magazines, etc.

00:47:16.000 No, Tim, Tim, you're totally wrong.

00:47:17.000 I totally disagree with you.

00:47:19.000 Nuclear weapons at your local FFL.

00:47:21.000 That's what I want.

00:47:22.000 That's what I demand right now.

00:47:24.000 Miniature nuclear... Exactly.

00:47:26.000 Give me the fucking nukes! 1.00

00:47:27.000 Give me the bioweapons! 1.00

00:47:28.000 I want fucking all of that shit right now! 1.00

00:47:30.000 Send it to my FFL. 1.00

00:47:31.000 My point is, if Republicans come out and say, we want universal gun ownership, Look at what happens when Democrats are like, we want universal healthcare and stuff.

00:47:41.000 They get a compromise bill that Republicans, they get Obamacare, Republicans won't repeal it.

00:47:46.000 Okay, Republicans, how about you advocate for universal gun ownership and create the Department of Gun Services where anyone can just walk in and get one free gun, and you know, one free, one free AR-15, and then when they're like, no, we won't do that, guns are bad, we say, okay, okay, fine, fine, we won't give them out for free, we'll just create the Department of Gun Services where people can buy guns with no restrictions. 0.99

00:48:05.000 I want fucking lightsabers. 0.93

00:48:07.000 I want laser weapons. 1.00

00:48:08.000 I want fucking tungsten rods in the fucking sky that could obliterate- I want all of it, okay? 0.99

00:48:13.000 You can't- You as an individual won't be able to have the rods from God. 0.99

00:48:17.000 Elon, maybe.

00:48:18.000 You never know.

00:48:20.000 Did I answer your question effectively enough?

00:48:24.000 Learning from ear to ear.

00:48:26.000 That's exactly what people need to hear.

00:48:27.000 Alright.

00:48:29.000 Right on, man.

00:48:30.000 Well, thanks for calling in.

00:48:32.000 Hey, thank you guys.

00:48:32.000 Last, but not least.

00:48:33.000 Cheers man.

00:48:34.000 Alright and uh...

00:48:35.000 Last but not least.

00:48:36.000 Definitely not least.

00:48:37.000 Roman909, uh, what's 909 to reference to?

00:48:40.000 Or is it a reference to awards?

00:48:42.000 California area?

00:48:43.000 Maybe. I was thinking.

00:48:43.000 Um...

00:48:44.000 Are you a dirty commie-fornian? 1.00

00:48:46.000 Or is that Washington? 0.99

00:48:48.000 Ironically enough, I actually did come from California, but my family left because we don't, we aren't commies.

00:48:55.000 It's great talking to you guys.

00:48:57.000 I've been a big fan since, I think, 2020, Tim.

00:49:00.000 California, San Bernardino.

00:49:02.000 Yep.

00:49:04.000 It's great talking to you guys.

00:49:06.000 Um...

00:49:08.000 It's...

00:49:10.000 I've been a big fan since I think 2020, Tim.

00:49:12.000 Right on.

00:49:14.000 It's nice to hear everyone else in here watching this show,

00:49:18.000 like I said, for a while.

00:49:20.000 So, my question is... With the potential aggressive nature of Brits...

00:49:26.000 What are all the panel's thoughts on NATO becoming a federation?

00:49:29.000 Is this a likely or practical counter against BRICS? 0.84

00:49:33.000 It would be a terrible idea, and it would result in global destabilization, I'd imagine, and probably World War III.

00:49:43.000 I get the point, though, and it's an interesting idea.

00:49:46.000 The problem is, it would destroy the laws and the constitution of the United States.

00:49:52.000 And you'd get people in this country just losing their minds.

00:49:56.000 Yeah.

00:49:57.000 Can you flesh that out a little, a little more?

00:49:58.000 I mean, when you say a federation, I mean, there's, there's an implication, but I want to make sure I'm not like drawing.

00:50:03.000 I mean, you're, you're basically talking about sort of like a governance super state of comprised of NATO countries, but it's sort of federated at a regional level.

00:50:12.000 I mean, what?

00:50:13.000 Like a new world order?

00:50:16.000 Um, America established a new world order and we pretty much dominate the globe.

00:50:21.000 Um, there is no changing the world order without the rest of the world burning with it at this point.

00:50:28.000 Um, this wouldn't bring a new world order.

00:50:31.000 This would basically be borderline.

00:50:33.000 Yeah, it's a federated states.

00:50:35.000 So like each state can do their own internal thing, but on the federal level, everyone gets

00:50:42.000 together on the same economic or military policies.

00:50:46.000 Well, okay, can I just jump in real quick, because I think I was confused by the question, because I don't see...

00:50:56.000 I'm not making an opinion for or against NATO when I say this.

00:51:00.000 I don't see a difference between the current construction of NATO and what you're talking about.

00:51:04.000 You understand that even to join NATO, you need to go through market reforms.

00:51:09.000 You need to change your political system with a bunch of democracy reforms.

00:51:13.000 You need to basically fit yourself into a cookie cutter slot of the existing NATO structure.

00:51:20.000 And if you understand how our own sort of military works and our own intelligence and State Department is organized, It is very much like, you know, like the, we are a transatlantic empire.

00:51:32.000 Like we are not, you know, uh, the, the, the, you can call us nominally sovereign, uh, but we don't do things unless it's, we have the transatlantic consensus, even if we need to mold that through UK and Brussels partners with, with more satellite NATO countries.

00:51:50.000 But the fact is, is like NATO is already very much a federation.

00:51:53.000 Yeah.

00:51:55.000 Oh no, what I mean is closer governance.

00:51:59.000 I mean, yeah, I completely agree with what you're saying already.

00:52:03.000 That's why I'm saying, and I believe in that idea, that it should be closer, because that's realistically what we're going to end up doing in the next 300 years, or the rest of the world burns.

00:52:16.000 Are you uh, it's yeah, I just I'm trying to understand if you're maybe look thinking of it more like the

00:52:21.000 European union of some sort or if I'm maybe in misunderstanding

00:52:25.000 Uh, it's in like more more coordinated more coordinated decisions. I'm just trying to understand what you mean

00:52:31.000 because it already making Like

00:52:35.000 Like making like being the ability to actually make laws And having a central government or like sort of like a

00:52:42.000 central government and a central military That's like the basic requirements to be a federation.

00:52:48.000 Yeah.

00:52:50.000 To hit that phase.

00:52:52.000 You think that's required to take on bricks?

00:52:56.000 Uh, to, yeah, to counter BRICS. 1.00

00:52:58.000 I mean, it would, basically, there wouldn't be really much of a way for BRICS to challenge it at that point. 0.95

00:53:04.000 Militarily, though.

00:53:06.000 Militarily, economically, and, I mean, the only thing they would have on us is population, that's about it.

00:53:13.000 Well, I think that's what the point was about the distinction between NATO and the EU.

00:53:16.000 Because, you know, yeah, but yeah.

00:53:20.000 No, I was just saying to come closer to the mic.

00:53:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:53:22.000 No, I mean, look, I mean, China's rise is not a military story.

00:53:27.000 I mean, they have defensive capacities, primarily in the South China Sea and the ability to be a sort of porcupine that you don't want to necessarily, you know, engage with because of their You know, they have offensive strike capabilities, but they're not like a military base.

00:53:47.000 It's not like the U.S. 0.96

00:53:48.000 with 800 military bases everywhere.

00:53:52.000 They rely on economic soft power for their rise.

00:53:59.000 In a dirty way, NATO actually does influence the economies through using the muscle of the national security state.

00:54:08.000 I'm not sure if more of that is necessarily a great recipe for the sort of civil liberties freedom thing we're trying to cook up here.

00:54:17.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.

00:54:20.000 There's one last thing I wanted to say before I let you guys discuss this amongst yourselves.

00:54:29.000 One of the things I would definitely support in the constitution, and the only way I would like it if in this system, is that the only way to run or vote is if you've done some form of civic duty.

00:54:41.000 Whether it be military, you first responder 24 hours of community service, or have passed a civic test.

00:54:50.000 Or, yeah, like, have I said in the medical field?

00:54:54.000 Yeah, like in the medical field.

00:54:55.000 Or like any of those things are important to the state and community.

00:54:59.000 I get that, but sociopaths lie all the time and will go through the motions to get the qualifications.

00:55:05.000 The issue is, are the people actually invested in this?

00:55:09.000 That's why I think it makes more sense to require the people to have done some service in order to vote for a person.

00:55:14.000 For me, personally, I think you have to be an animal if you want to be a politician, and I think we should vote in our favorite animals, and I think they would do a way better job than our politicians. 1.00

00:55:23.000 That's probably true, and it's like, my attitude is kinda like, I'm not an anarchist, I think there's some government that's good, but the reality is our politicians are balls, bullshit, suck-ass, they're trash, and a dog would do better by doing nothing. 1.00

00:55:36.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:55:38.000 That's anarchy, baby. 1.00

00:55:39.000 But I do think that there's some good functions of government in terms of border security, national defense, and interstate conflict resolution through the Supreme Court and things like that. 0.98

00:55:50.000 The problem is, politicians are corrupt assholes, and if we replaced Congress with a bunch of golden retrievers, congressional approval rating would hit 100%, and there would be less problems. 0.98

00:55:58.000 Dude, I mean, just imagine that. 1.00

00:56:00.000 Yeah, I would love that.

00:56:01.000 Everybody would love Congress overnight.

00:56:03.000 Yeah.

00:56:05.000 Well, right on, man.

00:56:07.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:56:08.000 It's getting late.

00:56:09.000 Gotta get back to it.

00:56:12.000 The military could be German- No, not at all. 0.93

00:56:16.000 Appreciate the call.

00:56:17.000 Cheers.

00:56:17.000 Hope you're well.

00:56:19.000 Likewise.

00:56:20.000 There's much to be done.

00:56:21.000 Tomorrow is Thursday.

00:56:23.000 Friday is the show.

00:56:24.000 It's gonna be amazing, and we're really excited to have Matt Gaetz.

00:56:28.000 We were excited to have him in the first place, but now that he's basically the most badass politician 0.98

00:56:33.000 in this country, I'm just like, holy shit, I can't believe we got Matt Gaetz. 0.96

00:56:35.000 Off his profile. 0.98

00:56:36.000 Big fan, and it was really cool that we had him on just like in the past week when he was talking about this

00:56:41.000 and explaining to us, cause he gets it.

00:56:44.000 He tweeted out a video from me, you know, furiously ranting saying, I get it.

00:56:47.000 And I'm like, bro, you're doing the work, man.

00:56:49.000 I appreciate it.

00:56:50.000 Mike, thanks for hanging out.

00:56:51.000 It's been a blast.

00:56:52.000 Thanks, guys.

00:56:53.000 Absolutely.

00:56:53.000 And for everybody who's a member, if you're listening right now and the members only, join the Discord and hang out with everybody because they're doing a bunch of awesome stuff.

00:57:00.000 There's more content being produced in the Discord.

00:57:03.000 So if you are a member, that utility is there for you.

00:57:06.000 And, you know, join up, hang out, produce culture.

00:57:08.000 That's the whole point.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 08, 2023

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