Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Israel Declares FULL SIEGE Over Hamas Invasion, US Hostages Feared w-James Bacon

00:00:00.000 Over this past weekend, there's been some very serious and extreme military conflict

00:00:09.000 erupting in the Middle East.

00:00:10.000 But to put it a bit more simply, Hamas invaded into Israel and started killing civilians

00:00:17.000 Over 5,000 rockets were fired targeting civilian areas, and it's pretty extreme in response to this.

00:00:23.000 Israel has declared a full siege on Gaza, and now we're watching buildings being flattened, and of course, You've got people on the left defending Palestine, and then you actually have establishment Democrat types criticizing the far left and actually advocating for more aid in defense of Israel, with many conservatives split as well.

00:00:43.000 Interestingly, this issue has divided everybody quite a bit, with many on the right under Trump being either very defensive of Israel or very anti-intervention.

00:00:53.000 It gets interesting when you look at exactly what went down in the big news that's happening now.

00:00:57.000 So, oh boy, do we have a lot to talk about here.

00:01:00.000 There are hostages being murdered right now by Hamas.

00:01:03.000 There are threats to execute more hostages as Israel retaliates and fires into Gaza.

00:01:10.000 And there's reports that the hostages may contain American citizens and reports that 11 Americans have already died.

00:01:16.000 We're going to talk about all that, but then there's the political ramifications as well.

00:01:19.000 Additionally, RFK Jr.

00:01:21.000 announced today that he will be running as an independent.

00:01:25.000 I believe, based on everything we've seen, there's good reason to believe this will hurt Democrats, especially considering RFK's speech was very much so.

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00:03:16.000 This is gonna be interesting.

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00:03:26.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is James Bacon.

00:03:29.000 Hi, Tim.

00:03:30.000 It's James Bacon, former Special Assistant to President Trump and Director of Operations for Presidential Personnel in the Trump White House.

00:03:38.000 Happy to be here.

00:03:39.000 Thanks for coming.

00:03:39.000 Right on.

00:03:40.000 We got Hannah Clare hanging out. 0.92

00:03:41.000 Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.

00:03:41.000 Yeah.

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00:03:47.000 And Ian's here too.

00:03:48.000 Thank you guys for coming out to Miami on Friday.

00:03:48.000 Hi everyone.

00:03:50.000 We had an incredible event in Miami.

00:03:52.000 Patrick Bette David, Matt Gates, James O'Keefe, Tim, Luke, and I were all there.

00:03:56.000 I mean, Hannah-Claire, you were there too.

00:03:58.000 The whole gang was there.

00:03:58.000 It was great to see you guys before the show, some of you guys after the show, and today I did something I'd never done before.

00:04:05.000 I prayed to Jesus.

00:04:06.000 I've never done this before.

00:04:07.000 I've always prayed to God, so I decided to communicate with Jesus directly, and I said, please help me, and he said he told me to tell them, so I'm telling you, I did it.

00:04:17.000 Well, there you go.

00:04:18.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:04:19.000 Thank you.

00:04:20.000 It was still kind of hazy.

00:04:22.000 Anyway, let's get down to the show.

00:04:24.000 Serge, talk to me.

00:04:25.000 Yo! 1.00

00:04:26.000 Yeah, pleasure to be in Miami.

00:04:27.000 It's fun.

00:04:29.000 Funny how the world kind of went to hell when we were gone.

00:04:32.000 But yeah, I'm Serge.com.

00:04:33.000 Here's a story from the Wall Street Journal, the latest.

00:04:33.000 Let's get ready.

00:04:36.000 I'm sure many of you have heard about what's been going on between Israel and Palestine.

00:04:40.000 Hamas threatens to execute Israelis in response to bombing of Gaza.

00:04:44.000 We have an image here.

00:04:46.000 Shocking image.

00:04:47.000 Flames and smoke billow during Israeli strikes in Gaza on Monday.

00:04:51.000 These photos are absolutely crazy.

00:04:52.000 There's videos now emerging from Gaza as Israel retaliates over the killing of civilians.

00:04:57.000 I believe it is estimated at 900 plus dead.

00:05:00.000 The number is probably higher now.

00:05:01.000 I think it's 1,100 now.

00:05:03.000 I'd seen something similar.

00:05:05.000 So, of course, there's going to be retaliation.

00:05:07.000 The Wall Street Journal says Hamas on Monday threatened to execute Israeli hostages if Israel continues to bombard civilian homes in Gaza without warning.

00:05:14.000 From this hour on, we announce that any targeting of civilian homes without advanced warning will be met regrettably with the execution I'm sorry, I mean it's plain as day.

00:05:22.000 civilian hostages we hold and we'll be forced to broadcast this, says Abu Obaida, the spokesman

00:05:29.000 for Hamas's military wing Al-Qassam Brigades, in remarks broadcast on Pan-Arab channel Al-Jazeera.

00:05:36.000 The enemy does not understand the language of humanity and morals and we will address

00:05:40.000 him in the language she knows.

00:05:41.000 We hold the occupation responsible for this decision in front of the world.

00:05:45.000 I'm sorry, I mean it's plain as day.

00:05:47.000 These are not secrets.

00:05:49.000 This is not someone, this is not a fake video produced, this is a human being saying, yes,

00:05:55.000 we stormed into these civilian areas, kidnapped and captured civilians that we consider enemies

00:06:02.000 and that they intend, that they're now saying they intend to kill.

00:06:05.000 Bye.

00:06:06.000 Okay, this argument about freedom fighters or whatever, nah, that doesn't fly.

00:06:10.000 I'm not gonna buy it.

00:06:11.000 You wanna come at me and talk about war and history and Israel and occupation?

00:06:15.000 Like, let's have a conversation.

00:06:16.000 We can talk about the West Bank, we can talk about people going to the West Bank and bulldozing homes or seizing property, all of that stuff, we can have a conversation.

00:06:23.000 But this right here, there's zero justification.

00:06:26.000 There are people right now in New York, I shouldn't say right now, but probably right now, over this past weekend, celebrating the killing of civilians.

00:06:35.000 So what is this?

00:06:36.000 Where do we go from here?

00:06:37.000 This is a war of colonization, and it's the first time we've ever seen it on TV in real time.

00:06:43.000 It's happened for the history of mankind, but you only hear, like, they went in and they marauded 18 border towns, and then they were there and they destroyed the crops, and then they came back.

00:06:53.000 But you don't hear, you didn't see them murdering the people, raping the women, kidnapping the children to raise as their own. 0.74

00:07:00.000 And now we see it.

00:07:00.000 Like, you don't see that.

00:07:02.000 And this is what it looks like.

00:07:04.000 Yeah it's a strange part of modern warfare how quickly we can see what's going on on the ground especially given the wide access of the internet.

00:07:10.000 I mean there are a number of people that I would be interested to hear their take.

00:07:14.000 The Hadid sisters are obviously not what I would call political influencers but they have been very vocally pro-Palestine given their heritage.

00:07:22.000 It's just it's been a crazy weekend.

00:07:25.000 It's been a lot of sort of a deluge of information.

00:07:30.000 Again, I don't know what's real and what's not.

00:07:32.000 That's part of why this is an opportunity to speak scientifically on what I've seen over the weekend, I suppose.

00:07:38.000 What I find really fascinating about this is that you have far leftists And what do you call this... I don't even know what you'd call the faction of anti-Semitic or anti-Israel.

00:07:50.000 I'm not saying literally the same thing.

00:07:51.000 There's people who hate Jewish people, people who hate Israel, or... Let's try and tone it down as much as possible.

00:07:58.000 There are people who reject the idea of Israel, who are more nationalist, and then there are white nationalists.

00:08:04.000 They're aligned.

00:08:06.000 Yeah, I'm in this regard with the far left completely.

00:08:10.000 Not in the sense of like pro-Palestine, but in opposition to Israel as a state.

00:08:14.000 And it's just a very, very weird circumstance to see prominent conservatives now completely in agreement with the Democrats.

00:08:21.000 Surprisingly, it's like all of a sudden like, whoa, it's just mishing and mashing everything up.

00:08:27.000 I mean, I think it's reflective of a lot of stuff that's going on in our country where we have been used to certain political parties claiming certain values and ultimately, especially in complicated, nuanced situations, people you wouldn't expect to agree actually have common ground.

00:08:27.000 Yeah, it is.

00:08:46.000 When I think of far left, I think of people that support Palestine.

00:08:52.000 And that's what I've always kind of assumed.

00:08:54.000 And it may not be true, but the people on the far left are like, no, Israel's an invading force.

00:08:57.000 We need to, but then the, the Biden administration's engaged with the far left had this, these people, and this is maybe I'm just misreading the situation through the media.

00:09:05.000 I've been, I've been watching, but, and now Biden sent an aircraft carrier over there to support Israel, but his constituency is like the left.

00:09:13.000 And they don't want, they support Palestine, and it's a very broad general assumption, but that's a conflict of interest, and maybe that's a good thing. 0.96

00:09:21.000 Well, I think there's no room for the nuanced take here, which is obviously Israel has a right to respond and fight Hamas because they were attacked in a vicious terrorist attack, but that we should be focused on making sure this thing doesn't break out into World War III.

00:09:36.000 That is what the U.S.' 's interest is here.

00:09:39.000 You know, you're right, in essence, but considering who's in charge of this country, I'm not so sure their interests align with what you're describing.

00:09:48.000 I think a lot of these companies have a vested interest in World War III.

00:09:51.000 And then there's a big question about what constitutes World War III.

00:09:55.000 With the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Or you can even go back to say like the US-backed ousting of Yanukovych in Ukraine.

00:10:03.000 Whatever you want.

00:10:04.000 I mean these things can all be reduced.

00:10:05.000 You can go way back in time.

00:10:07.000 But with the conflict, the hot conflict, you've got prominent people in Europe saying this is World War III already.

00:10:13.000 Now you add into the mix what will likely be the most dramatic and egregious Military escalation from Israel into Gaza that we've ever seen and may result in the end of Gaza.

00:10:26.000 I mean, the videos that are coming out of buildings being leveled.

00:10:29.000 It's brutal.

00:10:31.000 They're saying this is our 9-11.

00:10:33.000 This could be World War III.

00:10:34.000 I mean, look.

00:10:35.000 I know everybody's always like, oh, you're being sensationalist by saying World War III.

00:10:39.000 I will just say this.

00:10:41.000 For all I know, tomorrow, everybody stops.

00:10:43.000 There's tears.

00:10:44.000 Some, you know, prophet emerges.

00:10:46.000 And everyone stops fighting, and they're like, I can't believe we fought, and then they all hug, and it's like rainbows, okay?

00:10:46.000 Who knows?

00:10:51.000 For all we know, that happens, even though the conflict's been going on for generations, if not millennia.

00:10:55.000 Maybe.

00:10:56.000 But if China invades Taiwan and tries to take it right now, then I think it's fair to say, like, objectively, like, okay, World War III, we've got these massive superpower-involved hot conflicts popping up all over the globe.

00:11:11.000 And even then, maybe it's still fair that there would be some argument against it.

00:11:16.000 No, maybe it's just regional conflict, right?

00:11:18.000 If this does devolve into the U.S.

00:11:22.000 mobilizing, Russia mobilizing, China mobilizing, into an actual, easily discernible World War III with a front line, a western front, they will look back historically and this will be a part of that war.

00:11:34.000 Right, so when Franz Ferdinand died, no one said, that's it, World War I, World War I's on everybody!

00:11:39.000 We post-dated it.

00:11:40.000 We said, oh, that was the start.

00:11:42.000 Exactly.

00:11:43.000 I kind of get the vibe that it was 9-11 is what catapulted us into the age of world chaos.

00:11:50.000 I don't know. Look, there's been, there was Desert Storm.

00:11:54.000 There's a whole bunch of conflicts between the US and other countries and it never ended. I mean,

00:11:58.000 during the Cold War, we had a whole bunch of wars and conflict. It's not stopped. There was a period

00:12:02.000 where it was a little quieter, but there was still Afghanistan and Iraq. And World War I

00:12:06.000 and II was like the same war.

00:12:08.000 There's that interwar period where Germany was just seething because half or part of the country had been stripped away and given to Poland and those native Germans that were now under the control of the Poles were being executed and genocided and the Germans were like, you know, cast this belly for war, we need to take our land back.

00:12:24.000 And it was just like one big war with like 10 years of like quiet time.

00:12:27.000 I mean, that's probably true of all conflict in world history of all time, right?

00:12:31.000 Like, we say a war ends, but does it really?

00:12:33.000 Because the fallout is what sets up the next one.

00:12:35.000 I mean, that's going to be true obviously.

00:12:37.000 It's true now.

00:12:38.000 That's how we got here, and it's also will be true forever, right?

00:12:38.000 It's true now.

00:12:42.000 I love the idea that we live in peace, but ultimately someone is a loser when you live in peace.

00:12:46.000 There's always going to be tension.

00:12:48.000 One of the arguments they're putting forward right now is that 75 years ago, Israeli militants and militias seized land from Palestinians.

00:12:57.000 It's like, okay, I get it.

00:12:59.000 People were kicked out of their homes 75 years ago.

00:13:02.000 I don't see how that justifies kidnapping and murdering Germans.

00:13:07.000 There's that video going around of that tattoo artist.

00:13:09.000 Who was dancing at the festival, and there are people in New York celebrating that hipsters at a festival got taken.

00:13:16.000 And the guy laughs and says, I'm sure they're doing fine now.

00:13:19.000 He knows they were all murdered.

00:13:21.000 They were all murdered.

00:13:22.000 Their dead bodies paraded around.

00:13:24.000 Dude, you want to talk about war and conflict, fine, but like, if they were really trying to say like, take back their homes, or tear down the fences of an open-air prison, which by all means, make all these arguments. 0.68

00:13:36.000 I don't see how they're like, we've escaped the prison, quick, go kill civilians.

00:13:40.000 Like, imagine there's a dude who claims he was wrongfully jailed and he's in prison.

00:13:44.000 And he's like, I shouldn't be here, I'm innocent, I was forced in here by corruption and tyranny, I'm a political prisoner.

00:13:49.000 And then he breaks out, and then he runs straight for some 20-year-old woman and just beats her to death.

00:13:54.000 You'd be like, dude, you should have been in prison!

00:13:56.000 I think that a lot, the majority, probably a grand majority of the people in Palestine and in Gaza, whatever you want to call it, they call it, some people call it Gaza, some people call it Palestine, whatever.

00:14:05.000 Gaza is the strip. 0.87

00:14:06.000 It's what's left over of Palestine. 0.86

00:14:08.000 And the West Bank as well as Palestine.

00:14:09.000 So they're not violent.

00:14:11.000 They're just stuck and they're trying to live.

00:14:13.000 But then there's a militant, very angry, small group of militant activists, Hamas and others, you know, that are willing to kill and are creating a situation where these civilians are now in the line of fire.

00:14:23.000 It's true for a lot of civilians.

00:14:26.000 There are a lot of programs that try to bring aid to the Gaza Strip.

00:14:30.000 I remember... It's a really crazy thing when I went to Israel and I was in Tel Aviv.

00:14:35.000 And I know people who were involved in skateboard projects in Gaza and people skating in Gaza.

00:14:42.000 And I'm talking to this Israeli person about, you know, like, it was really cool to see in the United States a Palestinian from Gaza who made it to the U.S.

00:14:50.000 and was skateboarding with an Israeli, and they're like high-fiving and fist-bumping, being like, you know, if only we could find this kind of peace.

00:14:57.000 And then the Israeli guy goes, no, they don't skateboard. 0.67

00:15:00.000 And I was like, what?

00:15:01.000 Yes, they do.

00:15:02.000 There's like skate parks in Gaza.

00:15:03.000 No, there's not.

00:15:04.000 And I was like, Yeah, there is.

00:15:06.000 Google it right now.

00:15:06.000 I'll pull the video up for you.

00:15:08.000 I'm just like, do you genuinely think that's not true?

00:15:11.000 And I think the issue is that for a lot of these more Liberal-minded, like this German citizen who was reportedly killed was a German national, but also dual-citizen Israeli.

00:15:23.000 Conscience is objector and pacifist.

00:15:26.000 And it's these people who are raised in this leftist mindset, liberal mindset of world peace.

00:15:33.000 And perhaps they saw one of these videos of this dude from Palestine fist-bumping a guy from Israel.

00:15:37.000 Of course, Palestinians got really mad about that.

00:15:40.000 But the dudes in America is like, I just want to escape, man.

00:15:42.000 Like, they don't care about anything else.

00:15:42.000 Leave me alone.

00:15:44.000 And, uh, and I've also heard the inverse, too.

00:15:46.000 But they see stories like this and, like, we can't have peace.

00:15:48.000 And then, like, I'll say it again, like, call it an open-air prison.

00:15:52.000 I got no argu- Like, let's have an argument.

00:15:52.000 That's fine.

00:15:54.000 Whatever.

00:15:54.000 We'll talk about it.

00:15:55.000 You can call it what you want.

00:15:56.000 But if you're gonna make the argument that they're trying to break free... 0.68

00:15:59.000 Then they just run out and start killing people.

00:16:01.000 And the woman who got killed was this pacifist.

00:16:03.000 It's like, well, that was a cold, hard lesson in gun control and peace.

00:16:07.000 When there are people who believe that you as a civilian and a tourist are an evil, evil that needs to be purged, there's no negotiating.

00:16:16.000 Somebody dancing to music?

00:16:18.000 Well, we can argue about, like, lewd and lascivious behavior and stuff and, like, the devolution or the degradation of society and stuff, but come on, man, like, What's the justification for running into a music festival and just gunning people down? 0.82

00:16:32.000 Because in their mind, it doesn't matter who you are, you're all evil.

00:16:35.000 So it's like, what's justice in this situation?

00:16:40.000 If these people in New York are chanting from the river to the sea, They're talking about genocide.

00:16:45.000 They're talking about mass execution.

00:16:47.000 Dude, I'll say it again.

00:16:48.000 You want to talk about 1948?

00:16:49.000 You want to talk about the British occupied Palestine and all of that stuff?

00:16:52.000 Let's have a conversation.

00:16:53.000 But you ain't getting anything from me when you are literally singing songs about mass executing all the civilians who live there.

00:16:59.000 It was 1918, I think, when the British mandate for Palestine, and okay, I'm not exactly sure what year.

00:17:04.000 I think there's something called the Balfour Declaration was signed.

00:17:06.000 And what happened was during World War I, the British and the French were like, we cannot win. 0.94

00:17:11.000 We're going to lose.

00:17:12.000 The Ottoman Empire is annihilating us.

00:17:14.000 The Germans, the Austrians, they're too powerful. 1.00

00:17:15.000 So they made a deal with the Ottomans and they were like, we will give... Actually, let me fix that. 0.68

00:17:20.000 They made a deal with the Arabs, not the Ottomans. 0.57

00:17:22.000 They made a deal with the Arabs.

00:17:23.000 The Arabs were also with Germans and the Austrians.

00:17:26.000 The British and the French made a deal with the Arabs and they said, if you help us win, if you turn on the Ottoman Empire, we'll give you this area, which is now Israel. 0.74

00:17:32.000 We'll give this to you, Arabs. 0.99

00:17:33.000 So the Arabs said, okay. 0.94

00:17:35.000 So they turned on the Ottomans and then we won the war.

00:17:37.000 And then they went back on their offer and they said, no, we're going to keep that area for ourself.

00:17:41.000 And they set up the British mandate for Palestine and occupied it.

00:17:45.000 And ever since that's like the inception point of when the Arabs are like, you promised us our land back. 1.00

00:17:50.000 We helped you.

00:17:51.000 We died for you.

00:17:52.000 And now you took it and now you're there.

00:17:55.000 And And that was it.

00:17:57.000 That's where it began.

00:17:57.000 And then there's something called the Sykes-Picot Agreement, where I think Israel was officially formed.

00:18:02.000 I don't want to speak too much on this, but there's something called the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which is worth looking into, too.

00:18:06.000 This is one of the reasons why I'm, like, very anti-intervention.

00:18:09.000 I never say I'm, like, absolutely anti-intervention, because sometimes I recognize, like, none of the things are absolute.

00:18:15.000 But the problem is, you've got a lot of people who don't know enough about any of this, and it's so fervent and insane.

00:18:22.000 The people being like, Israel has a right, blah blah blah, and you know, whatever, and I'm like, bro, I'm sitting here watching people kill civilians, saying like, hey, don't kill civilians, and then people are still mad.

00:18:31.000 It's crazy.

00:18:32.000 Like, the pro-Israel side is saying they're justified in everything they're doing and whatever, in retaliation, and then the pro-Palestine side are saying that they're justified in pushing out these occupiers, and I'm like, bro, it's like a 20-year-old woman at a music festival got killed.

00:18:47.000 Not the only one.

00:18:49.000 And of course, I understand there's fog of war and there's propaganda, but dude, nobody mass-produced big fake videos and got these guys to go on TV and admit to doing these things.

00:19:00.000 I mean, this is how I felt when we got involved with Ukraine, right?

00:19:03.000 What is the American interest here?

00:19:04.000 And do we actually have one?

00:19:06.000 I understand calls for, you know, you've got to protect innocent people and, you know, whatever.

00:19:11.000 But ultimately, all of these things are much more nuanced conflicts than the American media presents to the people.

00:19:17.000 And we use it to justify investing tons and tons of money into stuff that I'm not sure is in the best interest of American people.

00:19:23.000 I want to play this clip for you guys.

00:19:25.000 This is a tweet from Julio Rosas.

00:19:28.000 Andy Ngo has quote tweeted it.

00:19:30.000 At the Hamas celebration rally in Times Square organized by the far left socialists and Palestinian nationalists, a speaker talks about the Islamist attacks that killed hundreds of Israelis, mostly civilians.

00:19:40.000 The crowd cheers.

00:19:42.000 I hope you're ready to hear this.

00:19:43.000 This is awful.

00:19:48.000 Early morning on Saturday, October 7th, our resistance stormed illegal settlements and

00:19:56.000 paraglided across colonial borders.

00:19:59.000 We made it to the largest military base around Qasr al-Karim, Al-Bukhari.

00:20:09.000 In this operation, and also flood, the resistance fired more than 5,000 rockets.

00:20:18.000 Wait for it.

00:20:24.000 You hear that?

00:20:25.000 Reaching Tel Aviv.

00:20:27.000 Okay.

00:20:29.000 In a conflict.

00:20:31.000 Let's say you're in a prison.

00:20:34.000 You're in a prison.

00:20:34.000 They say it's an open-air prison.

00:20:36.000 You're locked up and you're like, it is unjust.

00:20:37.000 I was put here against my will and my parents were here.

00:20:40.000 And so you decide...

00:20:42.000 To start bombing the town next door with a bunch of civilians who live nearby. 0.99

00:20:46.000 You're not breaking out, you're not... It's like a sally out, kind of.

00:20:51.000 If you're in a siege situation and you're the one that's under siege, sometimes they'll sally out and try and cause havoc in the enemy camp, the enemy siege camp, and then come back and kill as much and destroy as much as they can.

00:21:02.000 That's kind of what this was.

00:21:03.000 Well, imagine if...

00:21:06.000 They didn't kill a bunch of civilians.

00:21:07.000 Targeted the military only.

00:21:09.000 And were seen on video clearing civilians out and telling them to get back.

00:21:14.000 And then issued a statement saying, you know, our issue is with the occupying force of the Israeli government who have oppressed and suppressed us.

00:21:22.000 We will take every, every effort to protect the lives of civilians.

00:21:25.000 That's not what they're doing.

00:21:26.000 They're outright saying, in quotes, they will execute civilians to get what they want.

00:21:31.000 There is evil in this world.

00:21:33.000 It's not tactically smart from their standpoint either because now there's justification for them being completely wiped out.

00:21:39.000 Yep.

00:21:41.000 This video in particular just reminds me of Pavlov's dog, right?

00:21:44.000 She says colonizers and the crowd who's all raised in the West, they're all American, cheer because They know from every public school history lesson that the word colonization is always bad.

00:21:52.000 I mean they can't see that there might be any bias in this.

00:21:55.000 I mean obviously they've chosen to go to this so they have their own own leaning but with this argument it's it's just I don't I don't know I I hate that this is something that people are going to decide they have an opinion on all of a sudden because of the media media slant because really it's an area of the world that most people don't understand well enough to truly understand what's going on.

00:22:14.000 They have signs at this protest saying end U.S.

00:22:17.000 funding of Israel.

00:22:19.000 Many of the people who are arguing that we not fund Israel, it's not a principled argument about America first and saving the American people.

00:22:27.000 It is them secretly trying to get Israel to be in a weakened position so that they can start genociding people. 0.74

00:22:34.000 That's it.

00:22:35.000 Look, I'm not saying that Israelis like Palestinians.

00:22:37.000 I'm not saying that at all.

00:22:38.000 I'm saying these people here are referring to Hamas as their fighters.

00:22:43.000 There's another video where they say the same thing.

00:22:47.000 Where these activists and Palestinians, and there's many, there's Palestinians here, outright say that Hamas is them, and they're doing this intentionally. 0.94

00:22:55.000 Constantine Kissin made an excellent tweet, I think it was yesterday, and saying, you people in the West, and he was kind of like, is like, you've been told for so long that they hate you for your freedom.

00:23:06.000 And it's not that, they hate you because you have more power than them.

00:23:08.000 And if they had more power than you, they would conquer you, colonize you, and turn you into something much worse. 0.99

00:23:14.000 So, Get your head straight, and I've been so anti-war, I put it in quotes, but like, for 20 years, like, no, don't, but like, I can only fathom what would happen if the United States was taken over by marauders or barbarians that would rape and kill. 0.98

00:23:28.000 Like, that would be... This is the far left. 0.95

00:23:30.000 ...inconscionable.

00:23:30.000 We cannot allow that to happen.

00:23:32.000 This is the far left.

00:23:33.000 They, they, the Democratic Socialists of America promoted this rally, and at this rally, they celebrated the targeting of civilians.

00:23:42.000 Ocasio-Cortez is a card-carrying member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

00:23:47.000 Has she spoken up about it?

00:23:49.000 I don't think so, other than the squad called for a ceasefire, which is just, I just, look man, yes, okay, we don't want any more fighting, but you are hard-pressed to be like, hey, we stormed and killed a bunch of civilians, took a bunch of hostages, now ceasefire.

00:24:02.000 It just seems like arrogance on their part, right?

00:24:05.000 But we called for it over here in America, so you guys should stop.

00:24:08.000 I think they thought, the Hamas perhaps thought, that taking the hostages would prevent any kind of retaliation, and they miscalculated, and then when the bombs started dropping in Gaza they were like, we need to stop this right now.

00:24:19.000 No, no, they're saying they're going to execute the civilians.

00:24:23.000 In response to now the bombs, but I think they thought that if they took the civilians, a lot of captives, then they'd have some time.

00:24:28.000 I disagree.

00:24:29.000 The Al-Qassam Brigade sets up rocket depots in hospitals and schools and residential areas on purpose to force Israel to strike civilian targets and then complain that they're striking civilian targets.

00:24:41.000 The argument from any of the pro-Palestine side is, where should their resistance fighters set up at all?

00:24:46.000 Because there's no military bases there.

00:24:49.000 And where do the people go?

00:24:50.000 What do we do?

00:24:51.000 Do we take them in as refugees into the United States?

00:24:53.000 Well, a lot of people are saying expect to see, you know, millions of refugees now.

00:24:58.000 And this is another thing which maybe we'll touch on.

00:25:00.000 You talk about an open border, hundreds of thousands of people coming across.

00:25:02.000 How many of those people are like sleeper cell?

00:25:04.000 Yes, it's a serious concern, right?

00:25:06.000 This is true of all kinds of things.

00:25:09.000 Saying you're a refugee doesn't necessarily mean- and that's terrible because there are people in awful positions who do need support and help, but opening every border in the U.S.

00:25:17.000 because we've decided to get involved in wars that we are ultimately not sure how we're going to end anyways is sort of Not the solution, right?

00:25:25.000 We're creating more problems for everyone all the time.

00:25:28.000 I mean, it is one of the reasons that you have to be so critical of the Biden administration, which is that they were not proactive on the border the way they should have been, and they have also been club-footed when it comes to international diplomacy.

00:25:41.000 They have not put an American in a strong position, so we're actually, in my opinion, not in a very strong position to help anyone in any way.

00:25:47.000 So, there are a lot of reasons for this, and I'm not trying to put anyone on the spot, it's not a rhetorical question, it's a literal question for you guys.

00:25:53.000 For what reason is the U.S.

00:25:55.000 providing military funding to Israel?

00:25:57.000 to protect the Suez Canal. It just depends on how you're looking at it.

00:26:01.000 Well, that's Egypt though. That's the Sinai Peninsula. Yeah, but Israel's got war 0.64

00:26:04.000 war plans and Egypt's also on our side. It's on the side of... 0.99

00:26:08.000 Right, but Israel is not... 0.87

00:26:09.000 The Suez is controlled by Egypt. Shipping, maybe. But well, I mean, 0.90

00:26:14.000 they kind of guards the Suez. It's not... Obviously, the Suez is in Egypt, yeah.

00:26:19.000 It's a... Yeah, it's on the... So, the Sinai Peninsula is where the Suez is, and then you

00:26:25.000 have Israel further east of there. So, perhaps there's a strategic military point because it 0.82

00:26:33.000 gives them the eastern side of the Suez, I suppose.

00:26:35.000 It always was, too, because the Romans would sail over there, well, they would do it through Egypt, but then they would pick their boats up and walk them across before the canal was ever built, and then put it back down, and then I mean, it probably is the most logical reason.

00:26:46.000 The control of canals is massive.

00:26:48.000 I mean, right now we're looking... The conflict in Ukraine has a lot to do with the Bosphorus.

00:26:53.000 It was the Bosphorus Strait.

00:26:55.000 That's going through Turkey.

00:26:57.000 That opens up the Black Sea to the Mediterranean.

00:27:00.000 So taking Russia's warm water port in Crimea, if NATO were to acquire or the EU were to absorb Ukraine, would be very bad for Russia.

00:27:10.000 So now Russia's trying to secure this whole land bridge into Crimea because that's where they have access to the Black Sea.

00:27:17.000 And then there's other points of access they have into the Black Sea as well.

00:27:21.000 But this is a major naval base for them.

00:27:23.000 And then of course you have what may be the Suez.

00:27:25.000 Obviously the Panama Canal was massively and strategically important for us to control.

00:27:30.000 And I think it was like 10 years ago, China was trying to build a Nicaraguan canal, which is insane because the landmass is massive, whereas Panama is very thin.

00:27:38.000 And then with the Nicaraguan canal, they would have to decimate this natural aquifer that everyone got water from.

00:27:44.000 Ultimately, I think the program was abandoned, however.

00:27:48.000 But it could be.

00:27:49.000 It could be that the US, we hear this all the time that Israel is our most important ally in the region.

00:27:54.000 I'm like, okay, I guess in the sense that in terms of the form of government and the perception, like the world view, yes, that makes sense.

00:28:02.000 But what is the actual strategic military purpose?

00:28:04.000 I wonder.

00:28:06.000 Anybody got a better idea than the Suez?

00:28:09.000 I mean, that's what I would say.

00:28:10.000 I mean, I think ultimately America thinks of itself as historically Israel's ally, and so it feels the need to intervene.

00:28:16.000 It's a question that I think everyone should ask themselves, like, what really is the strategic purpose of getting involved at this point?

00:28:25.000 And I honestly don't have a great answer for it, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way.

00:28:29.000 Should we continue to, you know, we've already moved military ships closer to Israel.

00:28:34.000 We are preparing to get involved in more ways than we are already now.

00:28:39.000 We already spent billions of dollars on Ukraine this year.

00:28:43.000 I mean, here we go.

00:28:44.000 Not something that we can really do.

00:28:46.000 We're going into an election.

00:28:48.000 I wonder if this strike is partly because they know the U.S.

00:28:52.000 is fractured and distracted.

00:28:54.000 Yeah, speaking of distracted, Jack Posobiec tweeted out earlier here to his White House staffer this from two hours ago.

00:29:00.000 He's saying that this is from a White House staffer.

00:29:03.000 Biden keeps bringing up Ukraine during briefings on Israel.

00:29:06.000 He's getting the two wars mixed up.

00:29:08.000 Austin, Lloyd Austin, Secretary of Defense, barely showing up to the meetings anymore.

00:29:15.000 Blinken making more decisions than anyone. 1.00

00:29:17.000 So you talk about confusion within the leadership of the United States right now.

00:29:21.000 Biden Biden is.

00:29:25.000 He's probably concerned about getting caught for his business stuff in Ukraine.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, and also, you know, we've all had concerns about Biden's mental faculties always.

00:29:32.000 So maybe it's just, you know, the old age catching up with him.

00:29:35.000 You know, they had a barbecue yesterday.

00:29:37.000 They were at a barbecue at the White House.

00:29:39.000 Biden and his wife and a bunch of the White House staff were the day before yesterday.

00:29:43.000 Like during the bombs dropping in Israel, Biden's throwing a party.

00:29:46.000 Well, yeah, but to be fair, during the bombs... It's probably pre-scheduled.

00:29:49.000 Cancel the party.

00:29:50.000 No, during the bombs... Get to the war room.

00:29:51.000 No, during the bombs going off in Sudan or Somalia, they're also having barbecues.

00:29:51.000 What?

00:29:57.000 Yeah, but it's Israel.

00:29:58.000 So what?

00:29:58.000 This is another problem I have with many of the people who are like, we need to intervene in Ukraine or... Israel's our ally.

00:30:05.000 I'm like, China's running concentration camps where they're genociding Uighur Muslims.

00:30:09.000 I was on Twitter.

00:30:10.000 Are we going to go to every single country on the planet whenever a bomb falls?

00:30:14.000 No, but if one of your military allies is under attack, you go to the war room and that's where you stay for the next 28 hours or whatever.

00:30:20.000 I was on Twitter for like 12 hours yesterday.

00:30:22.000 Biden can do it.

00:30:23.000 Let's say he's our commander.

00:30:23.000 He should be.

00:30:24.000 He's a military commander.

00:30:25.000 When bombs drop, commander, go to war room.

00:30:28.000 Considering, and I accept this, considering the severity of the escalation, yes, I agree.

00:30:33.000 That he should have been.

00:30:34.000 But it does frustrate me that the news goes nuts when, like, Ukraine goes off.

00:30:40.000 And I'm like, a border dispute with Russia and a neighboring nation?

00:30:44.000 Why do I care?

00:30:46.000 Why aren't we talking about what's going on in, say, these African nations?

00:30:51.000 We didn't intervene with the IRA way back in the day.

00:30:56.000 There are definitely, there has always been a stance that we pick and choose and I'm glad that you brought up the Uighur Muslims because we still sent our Olympic team.

00:31:03.000 We made a big show of saying we're not going to send any of our officials or diplomats yet we still went with it.

00:31:08.000 I mean the double standard for what we are allowed to be outraged on humanitarian platforms it's just ridiculous and I think ultimately we know that this is not Based on any sort of bleeding heart, dedication to anything.

00:31:22.000 It's always about something strategic and powerful.

00:31:24.000 And in this case, we've already put ourselves in a weak position.

00:31:26.000 So what are we, I think that's like, I can't get past the point of what is the purpose of this?

00:31:32.000 I just, my question is what, what about Israel makes people's brains stop working? 0.96

00:31:39.000 No question.

00:31:40.000 I think it's just like, because of religion, because of Judaism, they feel so connected to the land itself.

00:31:46.000 I'm not talking about people who are Jewish or Israeli.

00:31:49.000 I'm talking about right now on Twitter.

00:31:51.000 Right now, even in our chats, there are people whose brains shut off the moment the subject of Israel comes up.

00:31:57.000 They stop listening to arguments.

00:31:59.000 When it comes to Ukraine, you can have a rational conversation about intervention.

00:32:02.000 Israel happens, and it's just hyper-polarized. 0.98

00:32:05.000 No matter what you say, you're wrong.

00:32:06.000 No matter what you say, you're right.

00:32:08.000 There's no rational thought whatsoever.

00:32:10.000 It's the most annoying thing in the world.

00:32:12.000 I used to have a chat server And the most annoying thing in the world was people always tried to make Israel a subject.

00:32:23.000 Like, to talk about it when it was not even in the news.

00:32:26.000 Whatever it is, there are places in the world right now where there are tribal factions locking up, oppressing, beating, and murdering other factions.

00:32:36.000 China, for instance, but for some reason, it's Israel.

00:32:39.000 It's so annoying.

00:32:41.000 I'm like, hey, okay, let's check out the history of what's going on, and they're like, The people right now, the conspiracy theory is that Israel knew it was going to happen and let it happen so they could justify flattening Gaza.

00:32:53.000 And it's just like, okay, dude.

00:32:57.000 At any point, everyone is just going to choose what they want to be the reality.

00:33:04.000 There are videos of things happening.

00:33:05.000 If you're going to make the assumptions that Israel knew, There's a report saying Egypt warned them of something big 10 days ago.

00:33:13.000 That doesn't mean anything.

00:33:15.000 Saying, hey, something's coming, watch out, something big.

00:33:18.000 What are they supposed to, how are they going to act on that?

00:33:19.000 Okay, I guess we'll secure something or whatever, we'll look for something big.

00:33:24.000 But people just lose their minds.

00:33:26.000 And we've had people on this show where they just get really, really, really angry at the subject and start ranting about it.

00:33:35.000 And I'm like, what is up with people, dude?

00:33:37.000 Certainly, World War II, the way Hitler exterminated six million, according to historical records of Jewish people, has caused an emotional attachment to just the entire concept of Judaism and extermination of humanity.

00:33:50.000 So that's a big part of it.

00:33:52.000 It's like, never again, kind of mentality.

00:33:54.000 Like, I can't even go there.

00:33:55.000 I can't even consider that.

00:33:56.000 And it's like, because it happened.

00:33:58.000 And honestly, the Jewish population has been For whatever reason, persecuted throughout history in different countries.

00:34:04.000 I think in England, they were actually kicked out of the country by one of the kings of England at one point.

00:34:08.000 Just completely tossed out because of their, I don't know, bank.

00:34:11.000 What was it?

00:34:12.000 It has to do with usury and the fact they allow usury.

00:34:14.000 That's a whole other thing.

00:34:18.000 Well, let's jump to more American domestic politics in relation to this.

00:34:21.000 We have this from FirstPost.com.

00:34:23.000 Did the weapons Hamas used against Israel come from Ukraine or Afghanistan, asks U.S.

00:34:28.000 Congresswoman.

00:34:29.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene says, we need to work with Israel to track serial numbers on any U.S.

00:34:34.000 weapons used by Hamas against Israel.

00:34:36.000 Did they come from Afghanistan?

00:34:38.000 Did they come from Ukraine?

00:34:39.000 Highly likely the answer is both.

00:34:42.000 I don't completely disagree.

00:34:43.000 I mean, I don't know for sure.

00:34:44.000 What we need is evidence.

00:34:46.000 But we have this from Jim Ferguson on Twitter.

00:34:48.000 Jim Ferguson, UK.

00:34:50.000 He is former parliamentary candidate with the Brexit Party in Barnsley, reporting, Breaking news, Israel, U.S.

00:34:56.000 weapons left behind in Afghanistan used to attack Israel.

00:34:59.000 A high-ranking Israel defense forces commander said U.S.

00:35:03.000 weapons left in Afghanistan by the Biden administration were found in the hands of Palestinian groups active in the Gaza Strip.

00:35:09.000 The chaos that erupted after the U.S.

00:35:10.000 scrambled to evacuate Afghanistan, as ordered by Biden, and the significant amount of weapons and equipment left behind there, has now been used to attack Israel, a close ally of the U.S.

00:35:19.000 Biden is incapable of leadership, and a total embarrassment on the world stage.

00:35:23.000 I don't know that any of this is confirmed, right?

00:35:26.000 We have this link.

00:35:27.000 I wonder if it works.

00:35:28.000 This is, uh, homage news.

00:35:32.000 I don't know what this source is.

00:35:34.000 Take these things with a grain of salt.

00:35:36.000 This is a story from June 18th, 2023.

00:35:39.000 Weapons left by the U.S. 0.85

00:35:40.000 and Afghanistan reach the hands of Palestinian militants, says Israel.

00:35:43.000 And again, this is from June.

00:35:45.000 So it may be the case.

00:35:47.000 And I think it is fair to say, considering the Taliban's desire to support Gaza, the Palestinians, it makes sense that the weapons that they got control over would fall into the hands of the Palestinians. 0.96

00:36:01.000 Now, the bigger picture, I suppose, is whether or not any of this is true, as I mentioned a moment ago, people, when it comes to Israel-Palestine, their brains shut off.

00:36:10.000 I'm sorry, I'm not saying literally everyone, maybe not you guys, but it's impossible to have conversations with people about this.

00:36:15.000 We've even had guests, like I mentioned, who just lose it and can't hear a reason.

00:36:19.000 Their brains are just not working.

00:36:20.000 The point is, that being said, this will be tremendously bad for Joe Biden.

00:36:26.000 When Afghanistan happened, Joe Biden lost something like 15 points in the polls.

00:36:30.000 I imagine Netanyahu cannot stand the guy.

00:36:33.000 I imagine he finds no comfort in Biden being around, being in control, you want to call it.

00:36:41.000 Obviously, the surrender of military equipment and human life to the Taliban in Afghanistan was one of those egregious losses of American military Right.

00:36:49.000 I mean, this this theory is even on the table because Biden handled Afghanistan so poorly, right?

00:36:55.000 We can't totally know for sure.

00:36:56.000 You know, I agree with Tim.

00:36:58.000 Take it a little with a grain of salt.

00:36:59.000 But the fact that we know weapons and other supplies were left behind means that this is on the table in the first place, which, again, is a direct responsibility of the Biden administration.

00:37:09.000 I don't understand how anyone can defend Biden going into 2024, given the record and the position that he has put everyone in in the last, what, two years of his presidency?

00:37:20.000 But I don't like that everyone is kind of jumping on the Biden administration and trying to blame America for this conflict.

00:37:26.000 This conflict has been going on for a long time, to say the least.

00:37:30.000 For sure, for sure.

00:37:32.000 Everyone wants to always attribute things to America, like, oh, they released the aid to the sanctions on Iran, so they got six billion.

00:37:39.000 It's like, that hasn't been confirmed.

00:37:41.000 We don't know that Iran directly directed this attack.

00:37:45.000 We don't know that the funds were directly used.

00:37:47.000 But what we're seeing are people like Senator Lindsey Graham and the neocons in the Republican Party trying to score points against Biden and saying we need to bomb Iran's oil refineries when we don't even know what the facts are yet.

00:38:01.000 We don't even know the extent of this stuff.

00:38:04.000 Someone pointed that out about Lindsey Graham. 1.00

00:38:06.000 He's almost 70 and has no kids, so he has, like, nothing to lose.

00:38:11.000 Hey, look, I'll tell you what.

00:38:12.000 He wants to put on the cowboy hat and ride the atomic bomb down.

00:38:17.000 What was that, Dr. Strangelove?

00:38:19.000 I actually visualized him going to the front lines in his fat body.

00:38:22.000 He would not, though.

00:38:26.000 Hey, look, man, if you tell me that you're in favor of funding and support for any country, no matter what it is, Israel or Ukraine, hey, man, I got some military PTs.

00:38:35.000 We got some ammo.

00:38:36.000 We'll suit you up.

00:38:37.000 We'll put you in basic training.

00:38:38.000 We'll send you right off first light.

00:38:40.000 And when I visualized him going, he'd be like, I'm too old to go!

00:38:43.000 But it's okay for your relatives and sons and children to go.

00:38:46.000 It's fine with him.

00:38:47.000 Hey man, look, you know, more people is still better, right?

00:38:50.000 So, if you're in favor of going to war with any country, like, I gotta, we could suit you up, you know what I mean? 0.75

00:38:55.000 So, the people who are all for intervention in Ukraine, it's like, let's suit you up, buddy!

00:38:59.000 Like, I, and look, a lot of the people did go!

00:39:01.000 That's crazy.

00:39:02.000 Remember that guy from, what was that, MSNBC guy?

00:39:04.000 Who went to Ukraine? 0.73

00:39:05.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:39:06.000 Who was that?

00:39:07.000 I don't remember who it was.

00:39:08.000 Malcolm Nance.

00:39:09.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, Malcolm was!

00:39:10.000 He did that fake video where he pointed and...

00:39:13.000 Didn't he pretend that there was like an airstrike or something when there wasn't one?

00:39:17.000 No, there was like a, you heard a sound of a jet or something, or a bombing, and he goes, he's like, one, two bomb, three bombings.

00:39:23.000 That's what's happening. 0.98

00:39:23.000 It's like, oh, shut up, dude. 0.98

00:39:25.000 Yeah, that was horrible. 0.99

00:39:25.000 But hey, look, man, at least he went there, I guess. 0.99

00:39:27.000 It reminds me of that movie, Edge of Tomorrow, when they're like gonna send Tom Cruise to the front line.

00:39:32.000 Like, M. Malcolm Nance, you're going in.

00:39:34.000 But hey, look, I'm not saying that Israel's right or wrong, I'm just saying if you want military funding for any of these countries, Lindsey Graham wants to bomb Iran, bro, I will put you in that plane, you can pull the lever.

00:39:45.000 Let's get you going, buddy.

00:39:47.000 My point is this, they won't do it. 0.86

00:39:49.000 No, they want your kids to go die for this. 0.99

00:39:51.000 That's sick. 0.97

00:39:53.000 You know, I think this is not a war of Islam against Judaism.

00:39:57.000 I think it's a war of, release us from this open-air prison.

00:40:01.000 No.

00:40:02.000 I don't think it's a religious thing.

00:40:03.000 It's always been for land.

00:40:03.000 Hezbollah exists.

00:40:04.000 Iran has stated they want to kill Jews. 0.99

00:40:05.000 They'll use it to rally people. 0.99

00:40:06.000 It's always been for land, even though they...

00:40:08.000 Hezbollah exists, okay? 0.72

00:40:10.000 Alright? 1.00

00:40:11.000 Iran has stated they want to kill Jews. 1.00

00:40:14.000 They'll use it to rally people. 0.99

00:40:16.000 It is not about...

00:40:17.000 But I'm thinking about 9-11, which is why I brought it up, because they said it's the Muslims that want to... 1.00

00:40:21.000 No, we wanted the oil in the Middle East, so we went in and took it, and we said, Muslim, Muslim, and we caused all this chaos, and it was just like, that was stupid of me, because now I'm like, I want to I'm thinking like, dude, the worst threat we could face is Islamic terrorists. 1.00

00:40:35.000 It's not. 0.99

00:40:36.000 Okay, it is terrorism in general.

00:40:37.000 But I think the Russians are Christian.

00:40:39.000 I mean, the Russians are like Orthodox Christian, they should be on our side, defending what's right, you know, what's what's good and right.

00:40:44.000 I'm not saying it's a real but I don't want to turn into a some religious thing.

00:40:47.000 It's just we got to we got to call a white peace in Ukraine and start working together to defend Earth. 0.84

00:40:54.000 I mean, I don't think Ukraine wants to... Ukraine and Russia have not successfully worked out a peace deal, I'll say that, and I think it would be impossible to say, okay guys, we've got a new world conflict, so you guys just take a pause and we'll move on.

00:41:07.000 I mean, what I'm waiting for next is anything to happen in Taiwan, because everyone can tell that We are on the brink of very serious chaos and I think everyone knows the U.S.

00:41:15.000 doesn't have strong leadership.

00:41:16.000 I agree with your point.

00:41:17.000 We can't blame the Biden administration for everything.

00:41:18.000 There are lots of historical factors going in.

00:41:20.000 I just know that in the last three years we have not positioned ourselves the way I would like to be going into this kind of conflict.

00:41:29.000 There's a question about whether the leadership of the American federal government is best serving the American people.

00:41:35.000 I can't say internationally what's going on.

00:41:37.000 We can blame the Biden administration.

00:41:39.000 Yeah.

00:41:40.000 I mean, look, we can reduce any argument.

00:41:43.000 We can go further and further back.

00:41:44.000 What was the real cause of World War II?

00:41:46.000 World War I?

00:41:47.000 What was the real cause of World War I?

00:41:48.000 Okay, fine.

00:41:49.000 At a certain point, we talk about the actions here.

00:41:53.000 Under Donald Trump, Abraham Accords, normalization of relations between Israel and many Arabic nations, Donald Trump, no new wars, and while there was budding conflict with Ukraine and Russia, under Obama, it stops when Trump gets in.

00:42:08.000 Weird.

00:42:08.000 Trump actually starts investigating this corruption.

00:42:11.000 How strange.

00:42:12.000 ISIS decimated.

00:42:14.000 The intention of the existing administration, the unit party in this country, is to perpetuate war for their neo-liberal new world order, whatever you want to call it.

00:42:22.000 Those are their words, not mine.

00:42:24.000 When they say the, what do they call it, the liberal world order and the liberal economic order or the new world order.

00:42:29.000 Again, it was the CFR that called it a new world order, whatever.

00:42:33.000 I think they also call it like the American-led liberal economic order.

00:42:36.000 They'll specify that it was an American-led thing.

00:42:38.000 Trump's attitude is like, we're gonna secure our borders and bring manufacturing back and mind our own business.

00:42:42.000 And everyone else was like...

00:42:44.000 Well, okay, that sounds good to us.

00:42:45.000 And then Biden gets in and he's like, I'm gonna blow him up!

00:42:48.000 And now we've got war everywhere.

00:42:49.000 Which is crazy.

00:42:50.000 So yeah, I'm sorry.

00:42:51.000 It's like, at a certain point, I'm not gonna go into the nitty gritty of all the classified documents to determine, was Russia biding their time?

00:42:59.000 And it was just a coincidence that all of this happened the way it did.

00:43:01.000 And just be like, nah, the simple answer is this.

00:43:04.000 Under Donald Trump, no war.

00:43:05.000 Under Joe Biden, lots of war.

00:43:07.000 I think it's Biden administration's fault.

00:43:09.000 Yeah, and Trump even had Bolton in.

00:43:10.000 Trump at one point told Putin that if he aggressed, Trump would nuke Moscow.

00:43:15.000 He told Xi Jinping that as well.

00:43:17.000 And then I think he was like, I don't know if he believed me, but even if it was five percent, that's enough.

00:43:22.000 Trump said that, and he's right. 1.00

00:43:23.000 Yeah, it's any kind of doubt.

00:43:24.000 I mean, he was the one who carried it out.

00:43:26.000 No one believes that Biden could do the same thing.

00:43:28.000 And I think I don't know.

00:43:30.000 I know we're going to talk about RFK Jr.

00:43:33.000 in a second, but I just really think this is one of the moments that Democrats are going to have to evaluate if they can get behind the Biden administration for a second term.

00:43:40.000 I think this might be it for him.

00:43:42.000 This is going to destroy the Biden administration.

00:43:44.000 His base is like pro-Palestine, I mean, I think. 0.53

00:43:47.000 So him sending support to Israel immediately disqualifies him.

00:43:49.000 No, they're absolutely not.

00:43:50.000 You don't think the far left base?

00:43:51.000 No, the average Democrat voter probably doesn't know or care at all and might just give you a generic, but we support Israel, far leftists. 0.99

00:43:59.000 We'll vote for Joe Biden because they're crazy people. 0.98

00:44:02.000 And but not all of them did. 0.99

00:44:03.000 But but a lot of them did. 0.98

00:44:04.000 A lot of these prominent leftists and Antifa people who have big social media followings endorsed Joe Biden and said, like, we're we got to support him because Trump's a fascist. 0.96

00:44:12.000 So they did.

00:44:13.000 They support Palestine. 0.86

00:44:14.000 But but Joe Biden's actual voter base, which is the default liberal, is probably more aligned with Israel. 0.98

00:44:22.000 The ignorant masses? 0.98

00:44:24.000 Yeah, the ignorant masses, all they hear is Democrats saying, like, Israel's an ally, we must protect them. 1.00

00:44:28.000 And they go, yeah! 0.99

00:44:29.000 The far leftists are like Palestinians, you know, from the River to Sea, etc, etc. 0.93

00:44:33.000 And then you have conservatives who understand quite a bit more and overtly support Israel.

00:44:38.000 Not all of them, but a lot of them.

00:44:40.000 And then you have libertarians who don't want us involved in any of it.

00:44:43.000 That actually is not working for me anymore.

00:44:45.000 I used to start to think along those lines of non-interventionalism, but not anymore.

00:44:51.000 Why?

00:44:52.000 What changed?

00:44:53.000 Um, I thought a lot about World War Two, and if we hadn't gotten involved in World War Two, what would have happened?

00:44:58.000 Hitler would have taken over the world. 0.97

00:45:00.000 I really don't think so.

00:45:01.000 I mean, he was about to.

00:45:03.000 He took France in like three weeks.

00:45:04.000 Taking over the world is a very, very bold and kind of crazy statement, considering he would have taken Europe.

00:45:10.000 He would have taken Britain. 0.97

00:45:11.000 He would have taken Europe, he would have taken Britain, and he would have murdered lots and lots of innocent people. 0.88

00:45:15.000 But the world is a bit much.

00:45:17.000 You know, right now they're saying, like, Vladimir Putin's gonna take Poland.

00:45:19.000 Come on. 0.99

00:45:19.000 I'm like, oh, shut up. 0.99

00:45:20.000 No way. 0.99

00:45:21.000 Come on.

00:45:22.000 No way.

00:45:23.000 You know, they're like, they're saying like, the Russian forces are decimated and they're losing and Ukraine's winning, but he'll take Poland! 0.89

00:45:31.000 I think I was saying, was it before the show, I've been so accustomed to false flags, just because Golf of Tonkin, I was talking to my dad, he was like, oh yeah, that was, he went, he served in Vietnam, he was in the Navy, and he remembers the false, so that I'm like, so anti-interventionalist, but uh, Then sometimes people just get attacked.

00:45:49.000 Sometimes your country gets invaded.

00:45:50.000 And I've never lived that life, because I'm from the United States in the late 90s, you know, where we never got invaded.

00:45:55.000 But now, sometimes it just, sometimes it can happen.

00:45:58.000 And you've got to be realistic about that.

00:46:00.000 There's no time to waffle if your country's under attack.

00:46:02.000 You can't let the hot air balloon float all the way across your landmass.

00:46:06.000 Like, a split-second decision.

00:46:07.000 The spy balloon that we did let float across America? 0.99

00:46:09.000 Yeah, it's asinine. 0.91

00:46:11.000 And Montana was like, wait, there's something here. 0.90

00:46:13.000 And we were just like, who knows?

00:46:15.000 We'll just see what happens.

00:46:16.000 Oh, wait, we shot it down later.

00:46:17.000 I mean, I get, you know, the desire to sort of feel like you need to act right.

00:46:24.000 But in this case, you have to go back to, like, our government is to serve the American people and what is ultimately the best interest of the American people.

00:46:31.000 I can understand an argument for we have allies, we've made agreements, we've made deals.

00:46:34.000 But, you know, I think the president has the duty to the American people first.

00:46:39.000 And we can't forget that.

00:46:40.000 I want to pull up a story from CNN.

00:46:42.000 11 U.S.

00:46:43.000 citizens dead in Israel conflict, Biden says.

00:46:46.000 And then we have this from ABC.

00:46:48.000 Biden says it is likely Americans are among Hamas hostages with 11 killed.

00:46:54.000 I don't see how Biden can recover from this electorally.

00:46:56.000 He's already down.

00:46:57.000 And now you have... It doesn't matter what you think is true.

00:47:01.000 In fact, it doesn't even matter what is true.

00:47:03.000 It matters what people end up believing is true.

00:47:05.000 Certainly, I do believe the truth matters, and we try our best to get to it, but the political ads are all gonna say one simple line, under Donald Trump, historic peace agreements with Israel.

00:47:16.000 Under Joe Biden, 11 Americans dead in escalating conflict.

00:47:22.000 Afghanistan withdrawal.

00:47:23.000 It's just, he's gonna, these, his, I don't see how he pulls out of this.

00:47:28.000 Yeah, when it comes to military, I think you realize that nothing else really matters when your survival is on the line.

00:47:36.000 I haven't heard the word trans in like three days. 0.98

00:47:38.000 I haven't seen anything about culture war crap on Twitter. 0.98

00:47:41.000 Maybe one or two things. 0.97

00:47:42.000 It's all been about the death and destruction and potential loss of life.

00:47:46.000 That's all that really matters when it comes down to it.

00:47:48.000 Well, it is Indigenous People's Day, and that is a big thing.

00:47:50.000 And I didn't even know that until like four o'clock, and I was like, are we doing a show tonight?

00:47:53.000 It's Columbus Day.

00:47:54.000 It's all over Twitter.

00:47:55.000 Oh, well, I see Israel, Palestine, Gaza in my Twitter feed, and I'm glad. 1.00

00:48:00.000 We need a strong military commander.

00:48:01.000 That's what we need right now.

00:48:03.000 Ian, you were saying you used to be anti-intervention.

00:48:08.000 You're not anymore.

00:48:09.000 Would you support U.S.

00:48:10.000 intervention in Israel?

00:48:12.000 In fact, yes.

00:48:12.000 Yes.

00:48:13.000 Immediate intervention.

00:48:14.000 And for better or worse, to help bring water to the people of Gaza, for starters.

00:48:19.000 Well, that's in Palestine, I guess.

00:48:21.000 So in the region, you're saying yes to intervention?

00:48:23.000 I would like to facilitate some sort of peace deal.

00:48:26.000 I'm not advocating for blowing people up at this point.

00:48:28.000 Yes, yes, Ian.

00:48:29.000 You and millions of people for generations would like to broker a peace deal.

00:48:34.000 Yeah.

00:48:34.000 Good luck.

00:48:35.000 But yeah, absolutely.

00:48:36.000 I think we need to be, we're the strongest military force on earth.

00:48:39.000 We need to be involved.

00:48:39.000 So what do you think?

00:48:40.000 You think like US boots on the ground?

00:48:41.000 Troops?

00:48:42.000 No, no.

00:48:43.000 Israel's capable of taking care of itself.

00:48:44.000 So you're not talking about intervention, you're talking about NGO aid?

00:48:46.000 But if you said Israel's capable of taking care of itself, then what do you want us to do? 0.93

00:48:50.000 Military aid?

00:48:51.000 We're on TV, man.

00:48:52.000 I can't really say that stuff on TV.

00:48:54.000 The Biden administration already announced they're giving weapons to Israel for this right now.

00:49:01.000 So that's already happened.

00:49:04.000 I support it.

00:49:05.000 I absolutely support it, man. 0.94

00:49:06.000 Whether or not they let this thing happen, those dudes murdered, raped, like they were, they killed, from what I'm reading about this music festival... Did they rape? 0.97

00:49:16.000 They killed people and then they raped women right next to their friends' dead corpses. 0.99

00:49:19.000 That's true? 0.99

00:49:20.000 This is what I've been reading.

00:49:21.000 I don't, this is all... I mean, that could be world propaganda, bro.

00:49:23.000 It could be.

00:49:24.000 It could be.

00:49:24.000 Maybe the whole thing is war propaganda.

00:49:25.000 I don't know.

00:49:26.000 A lot of it is.

00:49:27.000 And so watch out, because when the Ukraine war started, all that... Look, let's be honest.

00:49:32.000 Israel is so much better at propaganda than... But I think two things that a man needs and will kill for is eating and having sex. 1.00

00:49:39.000 And if these men are militaries and there are no women in their society, oh, you better believe they want to have sex. 0.99

00:49:44.000 Yeah, but they're not... It's not like these guys were like, urgh, I'm so angry, I wanna... It's more like these evil oppressors will know when we control them and they wanna subjugate the people that they view as oppressors.

00:49:57.000 Right, it's a display of brutality.

00:49:59.000 Yeah.

00:49:59.000 And then the psychotic urges of masculinity come out when they're in battle after the kill, the man wants to... Well, it's not that.

00:50:06.000 You're thinking of it... A lot of it is spitting in the face of Israel.

00:50:12.000 Taking the women is an insult to Israelis. 1.00

00:50:16.000 It was known throughout time, like when Alexander the Great's forces or like a military force would invade and take a city, the commander would have to tell the troops, do not pillage, do not rape. 0.99

00:50:26.000 And a shitty commander wouldn't be able to keep his troops under wraps and they'd just go destroy.

00:50:30.000 And so like a good commander would keep his men from doing it. 0.98

00:50:33.000 But it was just the proclivity for, you know, a worn out dude that just got done putting his life on the line, his adrenaline's all No.

00:50:40.000 Why?

00:50:40.000 He's got women all around him now, and he hasn't had sex in two years.

00:50:43.000 Okay, do you think we should say put boots on the ground to liberate the Uighur Muslims in China? 0.99

00:50:49.000 No.

00:50:50.000 Why?

00:50:50.000 Because China would launch nuclear weapons if we tried to do that.

00:50:54.000 Oh, okay, so it's only because the people in Palestine can't actually do anything else 1.00

00:50:58.000 in retaliation that we should actually try and stop them.

00:51:02.000 Well, no, I'm not saying that we should put boots on the ground or anything.

00:51:05.000 I think Israeli soldiers are qualified and capable of handling that situation right now.

00:51:08.000 I heard Hezbollah may be making moves in the north.

00:51:12.000 If there's an actual full-scale invasion into Israel and they call for help, we have to help. 0.98

00:51:17.000 I don't even want to.

00:51:18.000 But what does that mean?

00:51:20.000 If you're saying we shouldn't have boots on the ground, how do you want us to help?

00:51:23.000 I'm just really curious.

00:51:26.000 Because if neither side is willing to come to the table and negotiate peace, what is all the way?

00:51:30.000 Nuclear war? 0.75

00:51:32.000 So we shouldn't have boots on the ground, but you want to go to nuclear war?

00:51:34.000 Well, we're talking about life and death of the human race.

00:51:36.000 You have to put that on the table.

00:51:38.000 Nuclear war means death for all of us.

00:51:38.000 What do you mean?

00:51:41.000 Yeah, my question is, why do you care about Israel to the point where you think we should intervene and provide aid, but no other countries?

00:51:46.000 Um, maybe because it's probably like our third strongest ally, maybe next to Germany.

00:51:51.000 And if they go down, I think that China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran will take over the world. 1.00

00:51:58.000 World War III?

00:51:59.000 Israel is capable, fully capable, they're an advanced, technologically advanced military.

00:52:04.000 They are fully capable on their own of defeating Hamas.

00:52:08.000 So I think a danger here is that Israel, this goes into a broader war and Israel has in the back of their mind, well if we get into trouble the US will bail us out.

00:52:19.000 That's dangerous.

00:52:20.000 We don't want them thinking, well, if this does escalate, the U.S.

00:52:24.000 will bail us out.

00:52:25.000 Because then we're all of a sudden in a really dangerous situation.

00:52:29.000 Do you feel like Trump would have handled this differently from your time in his administration?

00:52:34.000 You know, I don't know how he would be handling it.

00:52:36.000 I think I think that Trump would fully support Israel's right to self-defense and fighting against Hamas and defeating them.

00:52:44.000 But I think Trump is known for his restraint.

00:52:47.000 And there was a similar incident where Saudi Arabia did a or there was some kind of drone attack And they blamed Iran.

00:52:57.000 It was in Yemen.

00:52:58.000 They blamed Iran for a drone attack that was against Saudi Arabia's interests in Yemen.

00:53:03.000 And people were calling on Trump to attack Iran.

00:53:07.000 And Trump didn't go for it.

00:53:09.000 He said, no, absolutely not.

00:53:11.000 This isn't our conflict.

00:53:12.000 We're not getting involved in it.

00:53:13.000 Well, he specifically said that the amount of people who would die in the retaliation strike was not worth it.

00:53:19.000 It was not... What's the right word?

00:53:22.000 Commensurate?

00:53:23.000 Yeah, that's the right word.

00:53:24.000 Not worth it.

00:53:25.000 The opportunity cost was too great.

00:53:26.000 Yeah, you could say that too.

00:53:28.000 It wasn't... I can't think of the... Opportunity cost.

00:53:31.000 Commensurate?

00:53:31.000 Is that what you're thinking of?

00:53:32.000 Well, it was... Proportional?

00:53:33.000 Proportional.

00:53:34.000 There you go.

00:53:35.000 It was proportional.

00:53:35.000 The drone attack, you know, killing hundreds of, you know, militants is way, way... The harsh reality of war sometimes is you want a non-proportional response in order to make it all stop before it escalates.

00:53:48.000 It's horrible to think this.

00:53:49.000 I've never lived like this.

00:53:49.000 Yeah, that's the big stick ethos.

00:53:51.000 That was what a lot of Americans in World War II thought with the nuclear weapons.

00:53:54.000 Oh, I got stung by a wasp. 0.90

00:53:55.000 Let's go find the wasp nest and annihilate it. 0.99

00:53:58.000 Kind of thing. 0.89

00:53:59.000 Well, I mean, that's a little different.

00:54:00.000 Similar.

00:54:02.000 If people are getting stung by wasps, you probably want to get rid of the wasps in us.

00:54:05.000 You better.

00:54:06.000 You don't just take out the few wasps that stung you.

00:54:08.000 But we're not talking about... So that would be a proportional response.

00:54:11.000 Yeah.

00:54:11.000 Right.

00:54:11.000 See, Ian, what we're trying to say is... I mean, you eradicate all of them if one of them stings you.

00:54:14.000 Yeah, but what you're arguing is a wasp stung you, so you brought a flamethrower and you wanted all the other wasps... I'm not going to travel Europe to kill all the wasps.

00:54:14.000 Right.

00:54:23.000 You wanted the other wasps to watch it happen so that they would know not to sting you ever again.

00:54:27.000 That's what you're saying.

00:54:27.000 I don't want them to suffer.

00:54:28.000 I just want to make it stop.

00:54:32.000 I'm not sure I can follow up. 0.94

00:54:33.000 I don't want to, like, burn them alive.

00:54:35.000 I just want the conflict to stop. 0.95

00:54:36.000 I don't want to, like, make them die in pain, but that doesn't mean that I don't want them... What the hell are we doing?

00:54:42.000 There's no solving this.

00:54:43.000 I'm sorry.

00:54:44.000 It's war.

00:54:45.000 It's war.

00:54:46.000 And people have chosen a side in the war.

00:54:48.000 Have a nice day.

00:54:48.000 This goes back a hundred plus years or even longer.

00:54:51.000 Thousands.

00:54:52.000 Yeah, right.

00:54:53.000 Thousands of years.

00:54:54.000 And it's like, everyone's gonna be like, this land belongs to this, no, this land belongs to- I'm right, no, I'm right!

00:54:58.000 In the end, bro, I'm 37 years old.

00:55:01.000 This has been going on a lot longer than I've been alive.

00:55:04.000 My response is, whoa, why are they killing all the civilians?

00:55:07.000 Tim, Israel is an apartheid state and these people are freedom fighters!

00:55:07.000 And what do I get?

00:55:11.000 And I'm like, bro, they're killing civilians.

00:55:13.000 Why are you supporting Israel? 0.71

00:55:14.000 Israel is stealing our money, America- I'm like, dude, I don't care about any of this. 1.00

00:55:19.000 I'm talking about these arguments.

00:55:20.000 What I'm telling you is the war is bad.

00:55:22.000 Civilians shouldn't be dying.

00:55:24.000 You can't come to me and be like, Israel should not be targeting, should not be taking action against the Hamas targets, the al-Qassam brigades.

00:55:31.000 And I'm like, but they're shooting at them.

00:55:33.000 What's the argument?

00:55:34.000 You walk outside and a guy's got a Ruger 10-22 and he's firing at you and he hits some of your kids and the only weapon, and so you pull out your SCAR-20S and then you're like, I'm going to return fire.

00:55:44.000 I'm like, whoa, but yours is way bigger than his.

00:55:46.000 It kind of feels like, Yeah, war is war, dude!

00:55:48.000 When the American colonists were colonizing North America and slaughtering the native population, it's similar to that, but we didn't have internet video back then.

00:55:55.000 We'd have the same conversation, like, well, you know, but what happened, the natives would come into town, guerrilla force, they'd tomahawk some dudes, grab some women, take them back to the tribe, and then the Americans would go with their rifles and slaughtered all of them.

00:56:06.000 Well, there's two things to that.

00:56:08.000 A lot of the Plains Indians, that was the regular life for Plains Indians.

00:56:10.000 That was the understanding of Plains Indians attacking other Indians within the United States.

00:56:14.000 The understanding that that's what was going to happen to men.

00:56:16.000 Indigenous people?

00:56:17.000 Right, exactly.

00:56:18.000 So we're dealing from this company.

00:56:20.000 It doesn't know our language.

00:56:21.000 Indigenous people in this country, whatever you want to call them, that was the understanding among Plains Indians.

00:56:25.000 That's how life was.

00:56:26.000 That was the understanding.

00:56:27.000 That's what they did to us.

00:56:28.000 They didn't take it, and it wasn't special for them in any way.

00:56:30.000 This is different because as far as I understand, those regions in West Bank, Gaza, et cetera, were not really inhabited until Israel became a state and then there was reason to be able to support populations in those areas and then they immigrated into it.

00:56:40.000 That's what I understand about it.

00:56:41.000 I may be wrong, but that's what I understand.

00:56:42.000 So I don't think it's the same thing.

00:56:43.000 Indigenous people versus people that migrated there after there was a state established and allowed them to survive in those areas, I don't know if that's exactly the same.

00:56:49.000 It's not comparable, yeah?

00:56:50.000 No, it's not comparable.

00:56:51.000 I wouldn't say it is, but you know.

00:56:53.000 Like the Colony of Israel, like 1918, the British Mandate for Palestine.

00:56:57.000 Well, that was 1948.

00:56:58.000 That was 1948.

00:56:59.000 Much later, much later than that.

00:57:00.000 Well, that's when Israel got formed.

00:57:01.000 But the British Mandate was in 1918.

00:57:04.000 You ever read I Am Legend, Ian?

00:57:07.000 I've seen the movie.

00:57:07.000 No.

00:57:08.000 The movie is nothing.

00:57:10.000 The movie does not relate to the story at all.

00:57:13.000 The movie should never have been made.

00:57:14.000 And it's awful.

00:57:16.000 The book is much better.

00:57:18.000 And fully admit, I did not read it.

00:57:21.000 I've only seen the select passages that convey the general concept of what the book is about.

00:57:26.000 And the book is about a guy who is, um, he's a vampire hunter, and he kills vampires.

00:57:32.000 Because vampires are bad!

00:57:33.000 And then, in the end, he finally realizes that because the world has fallen to vampires, and he is one of the last humans, he is the legend. 0.87

00:57:44.000 From the perspective of humans, there is a legend of vampires that, in the middle of the night, come and kill you while you sleep.

00:57:50.000 When the world became all vampires, there was a legend of a man who lurks during the day and kills you in your sleep.

00:57:56.000 That was his realization that they arrested him and were to try him for the crimes of murder.

00:58:01.000 And they were terrified of him. 0.98

00:58:02.000 He was a monster. 0.95

00:58:03.000 He was the monster.

00:58:04.000 In 2005, 6, 7, 8, I was like... 0.98

00:58:08.000 Screw Israel. 0.83

00:58:09.000 They've colonized. 0.99

00:58:11.000 This is unjust.

00:58:12.000 It should be dismantled.

00:58:13.000 I was in that state of mind.

00:58:14.000 And then I started to realize that life is about power, and who controls the power controls the narrative and your lifestyle.

00:58:22.000 So I'm not willing to give up this American republicanism for some anti-colonialism.

00:58:27.000 I'm just not, man.

00:58:28.000 I just don't know what the proposed solution is right now, when you have Israel, for all their faults, and then Palestinians don't want peace, they want from the river to the sea. 0.74

00:58:39.000 These are act- like, they'll lie to you.

00:58:40.000 The left lies to you.

00:58:41.000 The left lies to you all the time.

00:58:42.000 We know they lie, we know the far left lies. 1.00

00:58:44.000 They are evil people, they lie, lie, lie. 0.99

00:58:46.000 They're trying to sterilize children, they want you to abort your kids, they do a whole bunch of things, and then they go in politics, they lie. 0.99

00:58:52.000 There's a video where Jack Posobiec got punched in the face.

00:58:55.000 And the cops witnessed it.

00:58:56.000 And the far-left activists say to the cops, I didn't see anything happen.

00:59:00.000 They just lie with a smug look on their face.

00:59:02.000 You have videos of the people in New York amongst their peers cheering for the killing of civilians, calling them illegal colonizers.

00:59:08.000 We, as regular people, are like, okay, we can understand the nuances of military conflict, don't like these stories we're being told, but will not tolerate civilians at a music festival being just murdered and dragged to the streets.

00:59:21.000 Then they'll lie and say, oh, but our poor civilians will make propaganda videos. 1.00

00:59:25.000 What is... What does one do?

00:59:29.000 I don't know about anything else.

00:59:29.000 Right now.

00:59:30.000 All I know is I'm sitting here right now looking at the conflict and I'm like, I've been to Israel.

00:59:34.000 There are people going to the store and buying falafel.

00:59:37.000 They're not fighting with each other.

00:59:38.000 Why should they be murdered by Hamas and al-Qassam brigades? 0.89

00:59:42.000 They shouldn't be.

00:59:43.000 Okay.

00:59:43.000 Well, what happens when these terrorists come in and start killing civilians like they just did in the worst possible way we've seen ever?

00:59:49.000 Should Israel just be like, well, you know, it is what it is. 1.00

00:59:52.000 We're being killed. 0.78

00:59:53.000 No, they shouldn't.

00:59:54.000 The reality is we want peace.

00:59:56.000 We want a peace agreement.

00:59:57.000 Unfortunately, I think overwhelmingly it falls to the Palestinians and the ideologues, more so Hamas, but yes, in many ways, the Palestinians, they just want to purge Israel completely. 0.92

01:00:09.000 What do you do?

01:00:10.000 That's not a solution.

01:00:10.000 There's no compromise.

01:00:12.000 If they're saying, we don't care what you want to negotiate, we will kill everyone. 0.97

01:00:15.000 I'm like, okay, well, there's no negotiating with these people. 1.00

01:00:17.000 And we're not going to let you just go and kill a bunch of Jewish people in Israel. 0.99

01:00:20.000 Now, you wanna make an argument that Israel shouldn't be there or whatever. 0.99

01:00:23.000 It's like, okay, fine.

01:00:23.000 But, bro, the only thing they're offering is genocide.

01:00:27.000 There's no argument.

01:00:28.000 There's no compromise.

01:00:29.000 And Israel is there.

01:00:30.000 Exactly.

01:00:31.000 We can't go back and change anything like that.

01:00:33.000 I mean, I really stand by that peace deals always means that someone is upset because they lost, right?

01:00:39.000 In this case, you're completely right.

01:00:41.000 There's not a clear compromise.

01:00:42.000 And so, as much as we'd like to see a ceasefire, as much as we wouldn't like to see people lost, and we wouldn't like to see civilians taken hostage, We can all agree these things are bad.

01:00:50.000 On the other hand, it's not like we can just be like, hey, guys, stop.

01:00:52.000 Stop fighting.

01:00:53.000 Just stop.

01:00:54.000 Like, that's obviously not a reasonable solution.

01:00:56.000 It's not logical in any way.

01:00:58.000 The United States can't solve this.

01:01:00.000 Right.

01:01:01.000 You know, and I don't know why.

01:01:02.000 It's insane to me that people are so fervent about it because it's like, I got an idea.

01:01:07.000 Let's, uh, secure our borders, bring manufacturing back to this country, get rid of these garbage international agreements like TPP, and make America great again. 0.72

01:01:15.000 And then when people are like, did you hear about the conflict happening?

01:01:17.000 And, uh, no, I didn't, because I'm concerned about our borders, which are currently porous and have millions of people born there.

01:01:22.000 Yeah, this is an example of one of Jesus's parables, when he said, take the plank out of your own eye before you try and take a speck of dust out of your brother's eye or your friend or whatever.

01:01:29.000 Like, clean yourself up.

01:01:31.000 You gotta clean your room!

01:01:32.000 Before you try and clean up the world.

01:01:32.000 Yeah.

01:01:34.000 George Peterson parable.

01:01:35.000 That's right.

01:01:36.000 Here's the story from the Associated Press.

01:01:38.000 R.F.K.

01:01:39.000 Jr.' 's independent run for president draws GOP criticism and silence from National Democrats.

01:01:45.000 This I find fascinating.

01:01:46.000 Republicans attacked R.F.K.

01:01:47.000 Jr.

01:01:47.000 on Monday as the longtime environmental lawyer blah blah blah.

01:01:50.000 Now threatening to take votes from former President Donald Trump.

01:01:53.000 I believe this is propaganda and a lie.

01:01:55.000 I do too.

01:01:56.000 The Republican National Committee and Trump's campaign both took aim at Kennedy's liberal background, while National Democrats stayed silent, as Kennedy insisted in a speech in Philadelphia.

01:02:04.000 Quote, Voters should not be deceived by anyone who pretends to have conservative values, said Trump.

01:02:09.000 Spokesperson Stephen Chung in a statement, he labeled Kennedy's campaign nothing more than a vanity project for a liberal Kennedy looking to cash in on his family's name.

01:02:16.000 It's really funny because Democrats are hurt by this, not Donald Trump.

01:02:21.000 I don't know if y'all watched his speech where he talked about finally the United States can recognize Indigenous Peoples' Day and stand up, you know, blah blah blah, left woke talking point, and said he wants to have a new declaration of independence, independence from the corporations that are doing all these things, and I'm like, I don't see this guy pulling any Trump voters.

01:02:39.000 He might.

01:02:40.000 Uh, the crowd looked to be more liberal leaning and cheering for him saying Indigenous Peoples Day.

01:02:46.000 I think this narrative of criticism from the GOP is because they're trying to keep Democrats unified and they want RFK to be seen as Trump.

01:02:56.000 The way they stop RFK from pulling votes from Democrats is by convincing Democrats that RFK Jr.

01:03:01.000 is a Trump supporter or a Trump in some way.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, and he teed himself up to have this moment in his speech where he could have potentially really courted Trump voters and then he let it go.

01:03:11.000 I mean, he did say a lot of really interesting stuff along the way, and I thought it was perfectly fine.

01:03:16.000 He said at one point, you know, his big tenet was we need to Give up our addiction to picking sides.

01:03:23.000 And I thought that was a great, great sentiment, right?

01:03:25.000 So many people don't want to hear anything.

01:03:26.000 They know they're supposed to fall under a certain label or side of a certain party, so they just continue to agree with it no matter what.

01:03:31.000 He was saying, for example, over the past six months, I've really started to listen to different people, and I've gone to the border, and I've talked to border patrol agents and migrants and people in the community, and I've really started to rethink my position on this.

01:03:44.000 And then he moved on.

01:03:45.000 He didn't say, so I would commit to building the wall, so I would commit to ending birthright citizenship. 0.54

01:03:49.000 He didn't take any strong Republican talking points.

01:03:52.000 He just continued to say, I'm flirting with the idea of perhaps being more serious about border control.

01:03:59.000 If he really wanted to court Trump voters, he would have taken a strong stance on the border during the speech.

01:04:04.000 You know, I think that there are a lot of Democrats who are unhappy with Biden.

01:04:09.000 He does not poll well.

01:04:10.000 What is it, 60% think he's too old?

01:04:13.000 And so even though...

01:04:14.000 I think it's like 68. 0.91

01:04:16.000 It's some ridiculous number.

01:04:17.000 So ultimately, RFK is just needing to be different than Biden, and he is going to do that.

01:04:24.000 Obviously, I mean, other than our scenario where he, you know, collapses on stage and Newsom takes over, we know the DNC would never let RFK be the frontrunner, and so the Independent is the best way he can court voters at all, like Ross Perot.

01:04:38.000 What do you think about him, James?

01:04:40.000 I like RFK.

01:04:41.000 I think he's run a great campaign, especially by saying he's going to focus on the deep state.

01:04:47.000 His whole campaign has been about, the deep state is unaccountable to the American people, and my number one priority is going to be fixing these government agencies, like HHS that destroyed the country in 2020.

01:05:00.000 So I think his campaign has been great.

01:05:02.000 He may be playing to get more Democrat votes now, but I do think the effect would be to take more Republicans, or at least right-leaning independents.

01:05:11.000 Why would they vote for... Why would a right-leaning independent vote for Kennedy?

01:05:16.000 Because they see all his appearances on all these shows, which are overwhelmingly right-leaning, and he's talking to... he's speaking to... I think he's speaking to right-leaning voters.

01:05:28.000 He's anti-vax.

01:05:30.000 His whole thing is opposing the COVID tyranny, opposing the deep state, and the left-wing media hasn't given him any oxygen, whereas the right-wing media has been giving him all his oxygen.

01:05:40.000 But there are many people on the left who hated the lockdowns as well.

01:05:47.000 I don't think as many.

01:05:48.000 Sure, but like, I don't see that as being strong enough.

01:05:53.000 If you come out in your announcement speech celebrating Indigenous People's Day, I'm not sure the anti-woke post-liberals are gonna be like, that's my guy!

01:06:03.000 I saw that and I cringed.

01:06:05.000 Are you just saying he's more likely to capture, like, the right-leaning centrists because that's the media he's in?

01:06:11.000 So that's who's getting the eyeballs?

01:06:12.000 That's, like, those are the people that happen to be seeing him?

01:06:14.000 Exactly.

01:06:14.000 I think that's what's fueling his campaign, or the right-leaning centrists.

01:06:18.000 Kind of the Joe Rogan listener crowd is what's fueling RFK's campaign.

01:06:24.000 And the Republican nominee, if Trump wants to win in 2024, the key to victory is to get that crowd.

01:06:31.000 See, I can see where you're coming from, but he has, RFK has steadily gained among Democrats.

01:06:37.000 I mean, he came out at like, what, 5%?

01:06:39.000 He's almost up to 20% favorability among Democrats now.

01:06:42.000 So as much as maybe there are a couple people who are excited about him, who are sort of moderate to, you know, almost independent, Republicans will say, I think there are more people who are discontented in his base that he will pull away.

01:06:55.000 The numbers aren't proportional.

01:06:56.000 I think it will hurt Democrats more than Republicans.

01:06:58.000 I hope you guys are right.

01:07:00.000 It'll be interesting to see what voters RFK targets now, and if he shifts the style of his campaign like you just said, Tim, where maybe this is more a leftward shift.

01:07:09.000 But that's always been his campaign.

01:07:11.000 Like, it's been conservatives that have been hooting and hollering because they like what he said about COVID, but they're ignoring everything else that he said.

01:07:18.000 I mean, and a lot of libertarians have come out and been like, the dude is anti-gun.

01:07:23.000 He's like a liberal who just, his only position that aligns with conservatives is that he didn't like the COVID lockdown.

01:07:28.000 But he's also been very critical of woke culture, cancel culture, and the far left.

01:07:33.000 And I think the Republicans like him for that reason, too.

01:07:35.000 He's kind of this symbol of, you know, I'm a non-woke liberal.

01:07:40.000 And Republicans love to jump on that.

01:07:42.000 I just think that there are lots of moderates who lean left socially that also feel that way.

01:07:47.000 I think we don't give enough credit to the fact that the DNC and the Biden administration have to court the middle ground when they have positioned themselves more— Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

01:07:57.000 More and more towards the left.

01:07:59.000 I think that he just needs to be not establishment to abide in DNC.

01:08:04.000 I think that the Republicans have enough on the field where it's unlikely that they will see tons of Republicans flocking to RFK because, you know, he ultimately is an environmentalist lawyer.

01:08:14.000 I mean, he's not someone that is going to capture people on their base.

01:08:18.000 I think what I find most interesting about his shift towards being an independent candidate is what he said, which was that, you know, it is painful for me to leave the party that my family's political legacy comes from.

01:08:28.000 But I think it's so often that we see the media, obviously for, in my opinion, biased reasons, focusing on fractures within the Republican Party that they gloss over the splintering that is going on among Democrats.

01:08:41.000 And that's real.

01:08:41.000 It's documented even if the mainstream media, the AP News, doesn't want to talk about it.

01:08:45.000 And Cornel West, who is more left-wing, is now also going to run as independent.

01:08:52.000 So that's definitely taking votes away from the Democrats. 0.75

01:08:54.000 According to Ipsos, in a three-way race with RFK Jr.

01:08:57.000 as an independent, you have Biden getting 31, Trump getting 33, and RFK Jr.

01:09:03.000 getting 14.

01:09:04.000 Without RFK Jr., it's a statistical tie between Biden and Trump.

01:09:08.000 So Ipsos data from October 3rd to the 4th shows that RFK Jr.

01:09:13.000 hurts the Democrats.

01:09:15.000 So, and this is what I thought.

01:09:17.000 If you take a look at the graph, you can actually see that there is only a tiny red sliver that jumps to RFK, but a larger portion of the Democrats.

01:09:24.000 Why?

01:09:25.000 Trump supporters will crawl over broken glass to vote for him.

01:09:29.000 Democrat voters think Joe Biden's too old and don't like him.

01:09:32.000 They just don't like Trump.

01:09:34.000 And I mean, I was looking at a poll that came out of New Hampshire a couple weeks ago.

01:09:37.000 You know, they'll say, who are you planning on voting for?

01:09:39.000 And they'll say, who's your second choice candidate?

01:09:41.000 And it's not like Republicans are saying, well, if it's if it's not my number one choice, you know, DeSantis, Trump, whoever it is, I'm going to switch to RFK.

01:09:49.000 They're going to pick another Republican.

01:09:50.000 They're more likely to, whereas Democrats are not particularly happy with Biden already.

01:09:55.000 And so if they're presented an alternative, it's more likely that they'll pick it.

01:09:59.000 Yeah, like Vivek.

01:10:00.000 I think he's a much more favorable candidate to Republican mindset than... To Republicans, but not to Democrats, whereas RFK is, you know, at least baseline more Republican, especially to that moderate class that I think the DNC really overlooks.

01:10:12.000 I mean, they trample on them all the time.

01:10:14.000 That's a good point.

01:10:17.000 I'm excited about it, guys.

01:10:18.000 I love when we have a third party candidate.

01:10:20.000 I mean, I will say I listened to this whole speech because that's what I do for my job, and I like that he talked about – he had this line saying, you know, there have been independent candidates in the past, but this time it's going to be different because you're going to win.

01:10:34.000 And I don't think that's necessarily true, but I do think that it's nice to see someone who is representing people who are frustrated with the party system.

01:10:42.000 Teddy Roosevelt won third party.

01:10:43.000 Take a look at this.

01:10:45.000 Kennedy family members call RFK Jr.'s independent bid dangerous to our country.

01:10:50.000 To be fair, they were doing that before.

01:10:51.000 They really don't like him.

01:10:53.000 Christmas and Thanksgiving are going to be super awkward for the Kennedy family this

01:10:55.000 year.

01:10:56.000 Yep.

01:10:57.000 They're going to need to strip boats away from them. 0.99

01:10:58.000 Can you imagine, like, having Thanksgiving with your family and you're a former governor,

01:11:03.000 your brother's a senator, your other brother's running for president, and you're just like,

01:11:06.000 you know, you shouldn't be running for president.

01:11:07.000 It's like, well, I'm gonna... Guys, no politics at the table.

01:11:11.000 Yeah.

01:11:12.000 Yeah, he was saying his dad would have them all talk politics, Bobby.

01:11:16.000 Like, I think his grandpa would have his dad and his uncle John and...

01:11:20.000 His speech, he's name-dropping everybody because they really did have such a dynasty in his life.

01:11:25.000 I mean, it's not a joke.

01:11:26.000 I just can't imagine, you know, working out like, hey, you're not invited to Thanksgiving this year because you're running for president as a third-party candidate.

01:11:35.000 They're like, cool, I didn't want to go anyways.

01:11:37.000 Yeah, he's actually said his family disagrees with him politically, but they get along.

01:11:41.000 And he has a bunch of pretty mainstream, I mean, not that Hollywood is where you should put all your interests, but he has a lot of celebrity followers, isn't it?

01:11:49.000 Like Woody Harrelson, he had a concert with, I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but you know, RFK has appeal in a way that Biden does not in a lot of aspects of culture.

01:11:59.000 His wife is super famous actor, Cheryl Hines from Curb Your Enthusiasm.

01:12:04.000 I'm just gonna say it, her outfit today was great. 0.80

01:12:07.000 I would be happy to have her come on as a first lady. 0.99

01:12:09.000 Very stylish.

01:12:10.000 What was her outfit?

01:12:11.000 She wore this like white double-breasted button-down suit and it just, she looked classy. 1.00

01:12:18.000 I can't help it.

01:12:18.000 I don't really want her husband to be president, but I'm happy that he's in the race.

01:12:21.000 We're gonna get some great moments from her.

01:12:23.000 I've always liked this girl.

01:12:24.000 She's a great actor, man.

01:12:26.000 She anchored that show, Curb Your Enthusiasm. 1.00

01:12:29.000 Who?

01:12:30.000 Cheryl, his wife.

01:12:31.000 Is this it?

01:12:31.000 Yeah, but that's not today's picture.

01:12:32.000 I'll find it.

01:12:33.000 Oh, right.

01:12:33.000 Yeah, I'm trying to find it.

01:12:34.000 You can just look up Cheryl.

01:12:35.000 Oh, her dress.

01:12:35.000 Apparently, it's not the thing the mainstream media wants to report on.

01:12:38.000 It's so rude of them.

01:12:39.000 Yeah, I know.

01:12:39.000 You know, I'm over here trying to have a serious news program and let people know the clothing.

01:12:44.000 I slowly convert IRL to a fashion review program.

01:12:47.000 Thank you so much, everybody.

01:12:49.000 What do you think?

01:12:49.000 Cheryl looks like, it seems like she has no political acumen.

01:12:53.000 I can't tell for sure, but she seems like she's like a normie actor.

01:12:56.000 Like, not normie, but she's like outside the whole thing.

01:12:59.000 Do you think that's good?

01:13:00.000 Was it this?

01:13:02.000 Yes.

01:13:03.000 Oh, okay.

01:13:03.000 I mean, that's kind of basic.

01:13:04.000 It's basic, but it's white, it's pretty, it's fitted well, she doesn't look overdone, she doesn't like to strain too hard.

01:13:10.000 I don't get what the argument is as to why Trump voters would choose Kennedy, I just don't get it.

01:13:16.000 Especially because we've got Melania. 0.96

01:13:19.000 I'm in a position where it's like, I've been saying I'm 51% for Trump, he's the best option that we have, I hope he fires people.

01:13:26.000 I think his foreign policy was the best we've seen of my lifetime.

01:13:29.000 But I think that there are character defects of the guy, and it's like, obviously, there could be better.

01:13:33.000 When I say 51, I'm basically saying, as far as presidents go, being a net positive is a really powerful thing for me to say.

01:13:40.000 But RFK Jr., it's like, oh, he's cool.

01:13:43.000 I'm glad he's speaking up against the COVID lockdown stuff.

01:13:46.000 I would never vote for that guy.

01:13:47.000 I was going to ask you, James, how much of the president's value and effectivity is around that one guy and how much of it is around the people he surrounds himself with?

01:13:56.000 Well, I think it's been a trend in American politics since FDR of the presidency becoming more and more ceremonial over time, to the point today where today's president has a 100th the power that FDR did.

01:14:11.000 Curtis Yarman has talked about that a lot.

01:14:13.000 Um, the deep state has become a massive problem, and the people truly pulling the levers of power are kind of this expert class at the top of the bureaucracy that, of course, leans left and is permanent.

01:14:26.000 You know, they have civil service protections, and it makes it hard for a president to control the bureaucracy and control the policy.

01:14:34.000 And it's not just for Republicans.

01:14:36.000 It's for Democrats, too, although the bureaucracy just tends to agree with them more.

01:14:40.000 It's kind of just a coincidence.

01:14:42.000 Is that why you got involved with your project with Heritage?

01:14:45.000 Yeah, that's the idea behind Project 2025 at Heritage, actually, which is basically an effort to get the personnel right this next administration, and also an effort to make sure that the bureaucrats that have the true levers of power in our bureaucracy are able to be held accountable.

01:15:04.000 That doesn't mean we're going to fire all of them, but if somebody is obstructing policy, it's making sure that person can be fired.

01:15:11.000 Because, you know, all these candidates love to talk about what they're going to do, but if you don't first get the bureaucracy under control, you can't do anything else.

01:15:22.000 I imagine the president's pretty neutered when it comes to that, but with a good staff, what would be an example?

01:15:30.000 What are the top three or five roles that the president would need to surround him or herself with?

01:15:34.000 What are the top five powerful roles that they would pick?

01:15:37.000 I know chief of staff would be one of them.

01:15:39.000 Chief of Staff is extremely important.

01:15:41.000 I think, I don't think it's necessarily the roles, I think it's the actions the President would need to take.

01:15:47.000 There is a massive barrier between the President and his own Cabinet Secretaries.

01:15:52.000 So, there's a White House bureaucracy within the White House itself, and they kind of serve as this management barrier where they tell the President's Cabinet Secretaries what to do instead of the President directly.

01:16:04.000 And this management bureaucracy was Created under FDR and it's only grown bigger and bigger.

01:16:10.000 So I think the next president needs to do things like kick the National Security Council permanent bureaucrat staff out of the White House on day one. 0.94

01:16:19.000 Do things like that.

01:16:20.000 You know, make sure that your cabinet secretaries are being told by you solely what to do.

01:16:25.000 There's too many middlemen that the president has.

01:16:28.000 So if you cut down on these layers of bureaucracy and tell your decision makers exactly what to do, that's kind of the way of managing it.

01:16:38.000 And the other thing is, the president needs to delegate less and follow up more.

01:16:43.000 That's the key to all of this, because these bureaucrats thrive in the shadows. 1.00

01:16:48.000 They don't want to be confronted.

01:16:51.000 If the president and his cabinet secretaries dig into these agencies, they are going to figure out how things are really run and they're going to get a better handle on this stuff.

01:17:01.000 Why did FDR create this managerial class?

01:17:03.000 Why did he put people in the middle?

01:17:05.000 So FDR was spinning up all these new agencies in the 30s during the New Deal and he wanted to put in place a system that would last after he left.

01:17:16.000 So he did this thing where he got all these progressive academics to come up with a plan for how can I better make this administrative state work.

01:17:26.000 And these progressive academics based their plan on the monarchies in Europe, which had massive bureaucracies where the United States didn't.

01:17:35.000 And FDR took their plan and he implemented it.

01:17:38.000 And so it's this idea of a permanent expert class, an expert class that keeps the policies going no matter who the president is.

01:17:46.000 It's the antithesis of democracy.

01:17:48.000 Was it because he was getting bribed by like special interests and it was like favors or was it because he couldn't run the government properly to win the world war that he needed a fight?

01:17:57.000 What was his motivation like?

01:18:00.000 I think it's ideological more than anything else.

01:18:05.000 It's just always been this left-wing idea that we need government by an expert class.

01:18:12.000 So what are you guys specifically doing to combat this issue?

01:18:19.000 So there's a lot of things the president can do, but basically all the tools the president has are in the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, which actually was passed by Congress to help the president better control the deep state, because it had become such a problem.

01:18:37.000 And it created an agency called the Office of Personnel Management, and they're supposed to manage the bureaucrats. 0.99

01:18:44.000 But what's happened over time is that agency that was created got captured by the bureaucrats themselves.

01:18:49.000 So it's totally captured.

01:18:51.000 So you have to take back that agency and then use the legal authorities that you have, which there are many.

01:18:58.000 You know, people know about the Schedule F executive order.

01:19:01.000 They're familiar with that.

01:19:02.000 That's one of like 10 things the president can start to do to hold the bureaucracy accountable.

01:19:08.000 So you think going in and firing everyone maybe is not the right move, but to go in and be very selective about who and what to remove?

01:19:16.000 Or do you think more of just a broad sweeping 75% reduction of workforce among the managerial class?

01:19:21.000 What do you think is more effective?

01:19:22.000 I think you need to do parts of both.

01:19:25.000 So you need to do reductions in force where you get rid of these non-essential workers, the non-essential bureaucracy.

01:19:31.000 I like to say there's a deep state at the top, that's the left-wing expert class, but then there's like the DMV state below them.

01:19:39.000 And these are like the millions of unionized civil service protected employees.

01:19:45.000 It's 2.25 million employees and the president can only hire and fire at will 4,000 of them.

01:19:50.000 So 99.9% of his own employees he can't fire.

01:19:52.000 So you have to...

01:19:56.000 You know, get rid of the non-essential ones, and you can use reduction force exercises, which is just a fancy term for mass government layoffs, to do that.

01:20:05.000 But then at the top, it's more, you know, picking apart certain places where the bureaucracy has a hold, like the State Department.

01:20:13.000 You need to go in and tear that place apart.

01:20:16.000 If people are resisting, you need to fire them.

01:20:20.000 But there's a lot of nuances to it.

01:20:22.000 How would you implement reduction force exercises?

01:20:25.000 You would look at the parts of the federal government that are truly non-essential.

01:20:29.000 And it's funny because we already have a list of these positions.

01:20:33.000 When the government shuts down, all the non-essential workers go home.

01:20:36.000 We have this list that we are like, you're not even that important, leave.

01:20:42.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:20:44.000 And so you're not going to fire all those people, but what does it being non-essential mean?

01:20:49.000 It means they're non-essential in some way.

01:20:52.000 So you start from there and look at that.

01:20:55.000 Would it be an executive order that would be like...

01:20:58.000 This would put it into action or something?

01:20:59.000 This agency, Office of Personnel Management, would do it.

01:21:03.000 So, for example, on day one you could say, we're doing a reduction in force to get rid of all the diversity, equity, and inclusion offices across the federal government and let's just start there.

01:21:12.000 I wish.

01:21:13.000 Let's just start there.

01:21:14.000 I wish, dude.

01:21:14.000 That's a good place to start.

01:21:16.000 That's how you got your job, Serge, right?

01:21:17.000 Yeah, right.

01:21:18.000 That's how I got my job.

01:21:19.000 And that's because you can't fire them individually.

01:21:21.000 You've got to reduce the force somehow.

01:21:23.000 Vivek had a plan.

01:21:25.000 Exactly.

01:21:25.000 I think we should just put them all in the Aleutians.

01:21:30.000 Permanent vacation.

01:21:32.000 Enjoy yourself.

01:21:33.000 Get a nice house.

01:21:34.000 One thing we can do is use as an opportunity to develop areas that need development.

01:21:40.000 So by putting them in Alaska, we then have to fund the creation of cities and towns Most people aren't going to want to be there.

01:21:47.000 And so then what we'll do is we'll just, you know, look for oil and things like that in our own land.

01:21:52.000 I think Stalin did that with Siberia.

01:21:55.000 Although I don't think the oil, I don't know if they got treated very well.

01:21:58.000 You pick a place that needs development, you know?

01:22:01.000 And start putting the offices there.

01:22:03.000 What is your concern with mass layoffs?

01:22:05.000 Like, I know that in Iraq, when we invaded, we disbanded the Ba'ath Party and said, you can never serve in government again.

01:22:10.000 And they all formed ISIS, basically. 0.51

01:22:12.000 They formed terrorist cells, because they're like, what else can we do?

01:22:14.000 We have connections in the military.

01:22:15.000 They were just bored.

01:22:16.000 Yeah.

01:22:17.000 So I have this vision of, like, American bureaucrats who get laid off being like, well, now we're going to organize into ISIS.

01:22:21.000 I know.

01:22:21.000 I'm not even joking, because they've got friends in the military.

01:22:24.000 It's their own domestic terrorism.

01:22:26.000 It's just laid off.

01:22:26.000 Yeah, they joined Antifa.

01:22:28.000 Trump wins, they get fired, now they're broken, they're angry, and then they go become anti-Semites.

01:22:32.000 Anti-Semitism spikes when we lay them off.

01:22:34.000 Maybe we shouldn't lay them off.

01:22:35.000 That's a very compelling argument.

01:22:36.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:22:37.000 Relocate them first to the Aleutians, as close to Japan as possible. 1.00

01:22:41.000 Let me pull this up.

01:22:42.000 Do you think there's a risk that they could form some sort of radical NGO or something?

01:22:48.000 No.

01:22:48.000 The Aleutians are a Liberia for bureaucrats.

01:22:51.000 I think we do need mass layoffs, for the record.

01:22:54.000 I think we do need mass layoffs.

01:22:55.000 At two station, right here, look at this.

01:22:57.000 Yeah, it's out there.

01:22:59.000 It's out there.

01:22:59.000 That's really close.

01:23:01.000 Okay, it's closer to Russia.

01:23:02.000 So when you want to go work for the government, you got to think carefully, like you want an essential job because you are at risk of being shipped up with the illusion.

01:23:09.000 This little thing right here, this is America.

01:23:12.000 Yeah, it is.

01:23:13.000 This is the United States.

01:23:15.000 Be essential or go away.

01:23:16.000 That's the United States right there.

01:23:19.000 And we can take all the bureaucrats and just station them right there and we build. 0.98

01:23:24.000 It's worth it.

01:23:24.000 An ayahuasca ceremony, set it up.

01:23:26.000 I don't know about all that, I'm just saying.

01:23:27.000 Just give talks.

01:23:28.000 Just, you know, then we'll have a base out there and, you know, in the Bering Sea.

01:23:33.000 Is that a military base?

01:23:35.000 I gotta be completely honest though, it's 50 degrees there right now at 4.22 p.m.

01:23:39.000 and if I was working in a government office in D.C.

01:23:41.000 and they're like, we're sending you to Attu Station in the Aleutians, I'd be like, that's awesome.

01:23:44.000 I'd be so excited for that.

01:23:46.000 It's not forever, but wouldn't it be cool to be out there in the middle of nowhere for a little bit?

01:23:50.000 Kind of, but if China does try and take Taiwan, Taiwan's not the only island they would go for.

01:23:54.000 Oh, bro, they're not that close to Taiwan.

01:23:56.000 They're safe.

01:23:57.000 They don't have to worry about it.

01:23:59.000 Look how far away that is.

01:24:00.000 That's 3,000 miles away.

01:24:01.000 People talk about concern of China invading Taiwan.

01:24:03.000 It wouldn't just be Taiwan.

01:24:05.000 That's not the only island they would attack.

01:24:06.000 It would be a lot of islands at once.

01:24:08.000 No internet, too.

01:24:09.000 No internet.

01:24:09.000 The bureaucrats will be able to organize and defend themselves.

01:24:11.000 They're going to be super powerful.

01:24:13.000 We send them all to Attu Station. 0.99

01:24:14.000 There's no internet.

01:24:15.000 Yes.

01:24:16.000 All snail mail.

01:24:17.000 And the plane comes once every other week.

01:24:18.000 Yeah.

01:24:19.000 It's tough.

01:24:19.000 Sounds fun.

01:24:20.000 I don't know.

01:24:21.000 You ever see those things around the internet where they're like, you can get paid a million dollars a year to live on this remote island and maintain its lighthouse.

01:24:21.000 It's like one of those jobs.

01:24:28.000 You'll see these things on occasion.

01:24:32.000 People want those jobs! 0.99

01:24:34.000 Especially if you work, and this is not to mean to any of our bureaucrats who are listening and who support the show, you guys are great, but if you work in like a boring office for the government and you are constantly being reminded every couple years that you're non-essential when the government sets down, that's gotta hurt your self-esteem, right?

01:24:50.000 You would take this cool island, maintain whatever, hang out with the other guys.

01:24:54.000 Someone in the chat there says they left in 2011, it's no longer been inhabited since then.

01:24:58.000 Well, we gotta fix that!

01:24:59.000 We gotta fix that, exactly.

01:25:00.000 Make Attitude Station great again.

01:25:02.000 But look, look at all these islands.

01:25:05.000 Look at this, man.

01:25:05.000 You got on Alaska Island, this is where they do that crab show or whatever it's called.

01:25:11.000 Deadliest Catch?

01:25:11.000 Deadliest Catch, that's right.

01:25:12.000 Is that what it is?

01:25:13.000 I would much rather have crab fish than the New Democrats.

01:25:15.000 Look how cool that is, dude.

01:25:16.000 Look how cool, it's amazing.

01:25:18.000 That'd be a cool posting.

01:25:19.000 I gotta be honest, if I- right?

01:25:22.000 I'm really sold on this idea.

01:25:22.000 You know?

01:25:23.000 Look at this.

01:25:24.000 There's a Safeway.

01:25:27.000 Everything's gonna cost like $40, but it'll be alright.

01:25:30.000 I mean, here's the reality.

01:25:31.000 People would love to, like, get a trip to go somewhere like that, some exotic location.

01:25:36.000 I think Charlie Kirk, he was pushing to decentralize the, uh, just the RNC, the Republican And so decentralizing the government might also be effective, so they're not all sitting there on K Street, able to walk from one guy's office to another.

01:25:50.000 Well, it's funny, I actually went on Charlie Kirk's show to tell him why that was a bad idea.

01:25:53.000 Oh, tell me why.

01:25:54.000 It kind of works, but it doesn't work.

01:25:55.000 In South Africa, we have three different states, but... The problem is that the president doesn't control the government, and moving the agencies away is kind of what the bureaucrats want.

01:26:06.000 They want to be away from his supervision.

01:26:09.000 It gives them more autonomy.

01:26:11.000 These employees, they could be going to Amelia's right now.

01:26:14.000 Don't they want to support local businesses on these islands?

01:26:17.000 Are you going to build this into your plan that this is part of managing?

01:26:21.000 It's going to be taken into consideration here.

01:26:23.000 Seriously.

01:26:25.000 I'm not joking.

01:26:26.000 They should totally do this because you then get The, uh, you get development.

01:26:32.000 Why are we wasting money on these departments, the DOE and all this stuff?

01:26:35.000 No, no, no, Department of Education, I should say.

01:26:37.000 Let's just, that funding, instead of just pulling the band-aid off and getting this big congressional file bag, okay, well, we agree we'll keep funding it, but it's got to be on Alaska now.

01:26:46.000 And then what happens, you start developing this area, spreading people out, it expands American interest.

01:26:50.000 It's just really great for us all around.

01:26:52.000 Well, wasn't this this thing with the Department of Interior?

01:26:54.000 You know, it got moved.

01:26:55.000 Ted Kord's were going to be in Colorado.

01:26:56.000 And then Joe Biden was like, no, we're going to bring it back to D.C.

01:26:59.000 Like, they just don't want to hang out in D.C.

01:27:00.000 and work jobs that are pretend.

01:27:02.000 They should go.

01:27:02.000 Decentralized D.C.

01:27:03.000 And let's send them to this fun island. 0.99

01:27:05.000 Amelia's going to have some customers. 1.00

01:27:06.000 I got to be honest.

01:27:07.000 I bet you if they said like 100 postings on Alaska, it would be filled instantly.

01:27:12.000 Well, that's what James is saying is they want to be away.

01:27:14.000 They want less oversight.

01:27:16.000 So when they're in D.C., at least the president's able to have oversight over them.

01:27:18.000 And if they're off, But I think this is sort of extreme, right?

01:27:21.000 Like, I think only people who must really love their job or want to be on this island are gonna take a posting somewhere that remote.

01:27:27.000 Not to be mean to Amelia's Restaurant, which I've heard is great based on Google reviews.

01:27:30.000 I looked into going here, apparently it's like really hard.

01:27:34.000 To get in?

01:27:35.000 Well, something about like the flights are rare.

01:27:36.000 Yeah, because, I mean, this is true.

01:27:39.000 I've mentioned this before, but my family's from Newfoundland and like...

01:27:42.000 Places where there are established populations but people just don't come and go, you can't always get the ferry.

01:27:48.000 It's not a drop of a hat, right?

01:27:49.000 There has to be traffic there.

01:27:50.000 And that's Newfoundland, Canada, which is right above Maine, which is not as remote as this island.

01:27:55.000 Just, it would be really cool to go eat at Amelia's.

01:27:57.000 Check that out.

01:27:58.000 Yeah, put it on the bucket list.

01:28:00.000 They have a Mexican restaurant right there.

01:28:01.000 Culture!

01:28:01.000 This is great!

01:28:02.000 Where's the Mexican restaurant?

01:28:03.000 That's Amelia's. 0.74

01:28:04.000 It says Mexican restaurant underneath.

01:28:05.000 Does it really?

01:28:05.000 Right there.

01:28:06.000 Yeah, it's a Mexican restaurant, yeah.

01:28:06.000 Oh, it does!

01:28:07.000 Oh, I saw the steak and I said, that looks great.

01:28:09.000 Wow, Mexican food in Unalaska.

01:28:10.000 Yeah, I'm there.

01:28:11.000 That sounds awesome.

01:28:11.000 Did you call it Unalaska?

01:28:13.000 It's called an island.

01:28:13.000 The name of the island is Unalaska.

01:28:15.000 Unalaska.

01:28:15.000 That's the name of the town.

01:28:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:28:17.000 Right there.

01:28:18.000 Unalaska.

01:28:18.000 Yeah.

01:28:20.000 Well, there's church there, what is this, Department of Parks?

01:28:24.000 Oh yeah, Parks and Rec is there, wow.

01:28:26.000 And it's 50 degrees there right now.

01:28:28.000 That's not that bad for where it is.

01:28:30.000 I really hope we have a listener from Unalaska who's like, do not send me all these Democrats!

01:28:35.000 We already do!

01:28:37.000 Send the Democrats.

01:28:39.000 Look at this, they got a gun club!

01:28:42.000 That's what I'm talking about, man.

01:28:43.000 I would think that there is value to reducing the bureaucracy because the bureaucracy would be more willing to work with, like, economic forum, like, technocratic establishment.

01:28:54.000 Yeah.

01:28:54.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:28:55.000 Okay, how about this one?

01:28:56.000 Akutan.

01:28:57.000 It's basically just a seafood corporation and a post office.

01:29:01.000 They got a playground there and a public library, though.

01:29:04.000 A library?

01:29:05.000 I think that's a great idea.

01:29:06.000 Yo, look at this.

01:29:08.000 Roadhouse.

01:29:09.000 No delivery, though. 0.99

01:29:10.000 Oh, that sucks. 0.94

01:29:12.000 That's like just anywhere in rural America, though. 0.99

01:29:14.000 I will level with you.

01:29:15.000 Yeah, no Uber Eats?

01:29:16.000 Nah.

01:29:16.000 No Uber Eats?

01:29:17.000 No DoorDash?

01:29:18.000 Nah, dude.

01:29:18.000 I'm just saying, send them all off to the far reaches of the earth where they can never contact us again.

01:29:22.000 If you want to take a bureaucrat job, you should have to work for it, right?

01:29:29.000 The job itself is kind of cushy.

01:29:31.000 At least help this underpopulated island while you're at it.

01:29:34.000 I think part of what we're going to come up against with mass layoffs is a lot of these people are really good people that work in a position that should not be there.

01:29:41.000 And it's really impersonal that they're going to lose their job.

01:29:45.000 But maybe that's good!

01:29:46.000 But they can be offered early retirement and buyouts.

01:29:49.000 You can buy them out.

01:29:50.000 You can pay them to leave.

01:29:51.000 Exactly.

01:29:52.000 Also, there are all kinds of jobs out there, right?

01:29:54.000 Like, the government jobs are attractive, I get that, but there are other industries.

01:29:58.000 If people need jobs, then they were willing to work, which means that we can have more private sector growth.

01:30:03.000 I don't understand why we would be like, but they work for the government, so they should get to keep their government job.

01:30:07.000 No, we should have other jobs in other sectors.

01:30:10.000 That would be better.

01:30:10.000 We should cover their salary for a whole year and say, hey, you know, your dream of being a painter?

01:30:15.000 Go do that. 0.52

01:30:17.000 On Alaska.

01:30:18.000 Yeah.

01:30:19.000 Yeah.

01:30:19.000 Eat at Amelia's while you're there.

01:30:21.000 Even better.

01:30:22.000 I would be open to that.

01:30:23.000 Would that bankrupt the country if we paid their salary for a year?

01:30:25.000 I don't know.

01:30:26.000 I don't think it would be that expensive, actually.

01:30:28.000 No, it would not.

01:30:29.000 The fact that it'd be less expensive to cover their salaries for a year than to keep them all to- The Ukraine aid could pay for that 20 times over.

01:30:35.000 Yeah, a couple times.

01:30:36.000 Yeah, dude.

01:30:37.000 Okay.

01:30:38.000 That's good.

01:30:39.000 There's also, uh, Utqiagvik?

01:30:40.000 Did I say it?

01:30:42.000 Utqiagvik.

01:30:43.000 I believe you.

01:30:44.000 I think that's how you say it.

01:30:44.000 It used to be called Barrow, but then they renamed it to the indigenous name or whatever.

01:30:48.000 Oh, I see.

01:30:49.000 It's the northernmost city.

01:30:50.000 Yeah, Barrow.

01:30:51.000 Everybody, you gotta go there!

01:30:52.000 I had a friend who worked in Alaska doing, uh, some show.

01:30:57.000 I forgot what reality show it was.

01:30:58.000 But there was a point in the winter- Real life size of Alaska?

01:31:01.000 No.

01:31:02.000 It was like Ice Road Truck or something.

01:31:03.000 but there's a point where the snow shuts down the roads and you're there for the winter.

01:31:08.000 Nothing in and nothing out.

01:31:10.000 And the internet's all dial up.

01:31:11.000 That's wild. Phone lines.

01:31:12.000 Yeah.

01:31:13.000 They got Starlink now?

01:31:15.000 I think, yeah, they might.

01:31:16.000 They probably will.

01:31:17.000 Yeah, and it's become affordable.

01:31:19.000 But this was only a few years ago.

01:31:20.000 It was like, they were still going to Blockbuster.

01:31:22.000 Yeah.

01:31:23.000 And Redbox was huge.

01:31:24.000 It's like, you got to go to Redbox and get like 10 movies.

01:31:27.000 Well, West Virginia was one of the places I finally saw video stores again.

01:31:32.000 And it was because there's not great internet connection everywhere.

01:31:34.000 And you got people who will, you know, come into town for the week or every two weeks to get groceries and stuff and rent their movies and then go back on the mountain where there's no internet service.

01:31:42.000 They need their DVD player and then come back.

01:31:44.000 And like, I can only imagine that's tenfold in certain parts of Alaska.

01:31:48.000 You know, Elon's taken away all the mystery.

01:31:50.000 I gotta say, you know, life was so much more fun.

01:31:53.000 You guys remember not knowing?

01:31:54.000 Yeah, I do.

01:31:55.000 I thought about that today.

01:31:57.000 You less so?

01:31:58.000 Me, every day.

01:31:59.000 Don't worry about it.

01:32:00.000 No, I mean like when I was a kid, there was a period where it's like, I call my friend and he doesn't answer.

01:32:04.000 So I go to his house, knock on the door, he doesn't answer.

01:32:05.000 I'm like, oh, that's it.

01:32:08.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:32:09.000 And then you just leave.

01:32:11.000 And then you go do something else and you have no idea what happened.

01:32:13.000 This is one of the problems I talk about with kids today.

01:32:15.000 And I think, you know, I feel like I transitioned out of this period because the internet became so dominant while I was in high school or, you know, social media and stuff.

01:32:22.000 Kids today like if there's if there's fighting at school if there's like bullying or whatever else like it just follows you online after school whereas you don't go home and there were drama in the 90s you just had to call your friends on the landline whereas now it's it's all over snapchat it's all over Instagram you know they're sort of plugged into these scenarios which at times can be really negative constantly.

01:32:42.000 Maybe it's nice and that's why people like living in rural areas where you can say I'm just going to back away now and I don't have internet so you can't contact me That's actually the indoctrination aspect is like a big part of why I would not want to public school my kids, but it's that it's that Wait, what were you just saying?

01:32:57.000 The kids that have access to things online all the time and so therefore, you know Inter-friend group drama or whatever I couldn't do it.

01:33:04.000 I couldn't put my kid through that like I had to deal with it in school And then I go home and cry and then that would be it but I didn't have to it didn't taint my life I mean, I think that's all me around your kids off social media, which is really challenging because there's that idea that they want it I mean, it's it's it's a I got an idea.

01:33:19.000 Are they gonna go to Alaska?

01:33:21.000 Yes, if your kids being bullied you can make it all go away by sending them to unalaska You send your kid you move your family or do you send the bully?

01:33:27.000 I feel like going on a trip where there would be awesome Wouldn't you guys want to vacation on an island?

01:33:34.000 I don't want you to go there forever.

01:33:35.000 You can go there for a little bit.

01:33:36.000 Yeah, it's a posting.

01:33:37.000 It would be really soothing.

01:33:38.000 I know.

01:33:39.000 I don't want to be on a Pacific island when we're wondering if China's going to invade Taiwan.

01:33:43.000 Not right now.

01:33:43.000 Okay, well, you know.

01:33:44.000 Just bureaucrats and bullies on Alaska. 1.00

01:33:47.000 I was been thinking lately, I don't want to be, I want to go to Israel, but it's like the last year I've been thinking, I do not want to go there right now.

01:33:53.000 All right, how about this one?

01:33:53.000 And I guess this is why.

01:33:55.000 Alfred Farr.

01:33:56.000 I was looking, I think we're going to pull up like, was it Ascension or whatever?

01:34:00.000 The island in the middle of nowhere?

01:34:02.000 I mean, this is an island in the middle of nowhere.

01:34:03.000 Oh, the island that's further from all of our islands.

01:34:05.000 Hey, look at this one.

01:34:07.000 French Southern Antarctic lands.

01:34:10.000 There we go.

01:34:10.000 You just come on down, speak French.

01:34:13.000 For what reason?

01:34:15.000 Look at all that light blue.

01:34:16.000 That was all above the water before the flood.

01:34:18.000 Before the flood, huh?

01:34:20.000 Look it, look it.

01:34:20.000 Even Google Maps has the ice wall, see?

01:34:23.000 Do you guys ever look at the expanding earth theory?

01:34:29.000 Yeah.

01:34:30.000 The earth was small and then it slowly twisted open.

01:34:32.000 You can see how South America like fits perfectly into, uh, into, uh, Africa there.

01:34:37.000 Just pulled open.

01:34:38.000 Yeah, Pangaea and all that.

01:34:40.000 That was the idea, was that it was a piece of land on a big floating ball of water, but the other theory is that it was all rock, and it twisted open, and the hydrogen shot out of the cracks and mixed with the oxygen to form ocean water.

01:34:50.000 How deliciously absurd.

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01:35:24.000 Wonder who got first today.

01:35:25.000 Waffle Sensei!

01:35:26.000 Hey, shout out Waffles!

01:35:28.000 He says, as far as intervention goes, I will say that if American citizens are being held hostage, then we have a duty to destroy the individuals responsible.

01:35:35.000 That's a tough question.

01:35:36.000 When Biden comes out and says that American citizens are possibly among the hostages, I'm kind of like, I don't believe you. 0.99

01:35:42.000 You're a liar. 0.83

01:35:43.000 Yeah, you can't trust Joe Biden. 0.97

01:35:44.000 I mean, and also there are Americans who are wrongfully detained in Russia, right?

01:35:48.000 We've got Americans all over the place that we need to help.

01:35:52.000 It's not to downplay the suffering that they might be going through, but we gotta think this one out. 0.99

01:35:56.000 It certainly speaks to the danger of not trusting your government, because when the shit hits the fan for real, and you don't trust them, that's a big problem. 0.99

01:36:05.000 What's next? 0.99

01:36:06.000 Joseph says, no intervention equals I'm okay with suffering, lol.

01:36:10.000 I mean, like, the problem with intervention is we can't intervene everywhere.

01:36:15.000 So then it's just, someone is like, I watched the news today, and this country was bad, so we must intervene, and it's like, did you watch the news yesterday?

01:36:22.000 Other country was bad.

01:36:23.000 Which one do you want to intervene in?

01:36:24.000 We can't do all of them.

01:36:25.000 Current thing thing.

01:36:26.000 Could you imagine, like, I don't know, I just think about things domestically, like...

01:36:30.000 You hear fighting down the street from your neighbor's house and you're like, I'm gonna have to intervene.

01:36:35.000 And so you and your buddies go down to that house and kick the door in and go in and say, everybody on the ground!

01:36:40.000 No, you call the police, I guess.

01:36:42.000 There's a force that can deal with that.

01:36:45.000 I don't know if there's no international force or whatever, but imagine that there's a house down the street from you and the roommates are having a dispute over who gets to use the game room at what time and they're fighting.

01:36:56.000 You're just gonna be like, bro, I have nothing to do with this.

01:36:59.000 Also, in a different house, someone else is yelling, and you're like, hmm, not that house.

01:37:02.000 That one's not suffering.

01:37:04.000 Yeah, right?

01:37:04.000 No, but like, there's one house, and you hear two guys arguing in the game room, and they're fighting, and you're like, that fight is getting pretty bad, maybe I should go kick the door in.

01:37:11.000 Then there's another house next door, where you hear a woman mercilessly being beaten, and she's screaming for help, please, dear lord, help me.

01:37:19.000 And you're like, hmm, and there's a Russian guy with a big gun standing, and he goes, no. 0.51

01:37:22.000 And you're like, yeah, okay, no intervention there.

01:37:24.000 Like, it's just... How about we just be like, look man, I guess the domestic analogy doesn't really work because you can always call the cops.

01:37:31.000 There is some inter-home, you know, law enforcement agency.

01:37:35.000 Yeah, I guess you can call Team America, right?

01:37:38.000 Team America, man.

01:37:39.000 The A-Team.

01:37:41.000 Greg Nubier says, I find it interesting that General Mark Milley retires a few days before the attack on Israel.

01:37:45.000 Just a thought I had.

01:37:46.000 I doubt there is any connection.

01:37:47.000 Just an interesting coincidence that came to mind.

01:37:49.000 Yeah, but it might not be a coincidence.

01:37:50.000 Milley was the only one holding it together.

01:37:52.000 It was him personally.

01:37:54.000 With him gone.

01:37:55.000 That's when Israel, Eram Mas was like, you know what? 0.97

01:37:57.000 We've got to roll in.

01:38:00.000 Federale Actual says, thank you for a good twelfth, maybe, of riding high on white pills.

01:38:07.000 Three of the best journalists of my generation talking shop on the culture war, and then an amazing event.

01:38:12.000 No comment on how awful this world is.

01:38:13.000 Keep your heads up.

01:38:14.000 That's right, Friday morning in the culture war, it was me, Luke Rutkowski, and James O'Keefe.

01:38:18.000 That was a really amazing conversation.

01:38:20.000 We didn't really talk about journalism, we talked about people being evil.

01:38:23.000 Getting older and realizing that some people's intentions are just malicious and what it means to be backstabbed.

01:38:29.000 And this is obviously because Project Veritas stabbed James O'Keefe in the back.

01:38:33.000 Brutal stuff.

01:38:34.000 Yeah, I've been thinking about a lot how weird it is when people lie, but they like it.

01:38:39.000 They twist their minds into now enjoying lying.

01:38:42.000 That's weird, dude.

01:38:45.000 It's like, I talk about how people always say it's hard to play the evil route in video games.

01:38:50.000 Like, RPGs that allow you to play the good guy or the bad guy, and everyone always jokes that it's hard to play the bad guy, and I'm like, nah, they make it for a reason.

01:38:57.000 There are people who just like being evil.

01:38:59.000 It's weird.

01:39:00.000 I can't understand it.

01:39:02.000 But I've certainly experienced evil people, man! 0.95

01:39:05.000 People who gloat and laugh about conflict crisis, they're demons.

01:39:09.000 They just want the suffering. 1.00

01:39:11.000 Eat crazy.

01:39:12.000 And sometimes they'll lie because they think they're doing good with it.

01:39:15.000 And maybe, maybe, maybe they are.

01:39:16.000 That's still different.

01:39:17.000 I'm not talking about people who think they're good, who do bad things.

01:39:20.000 Oh, yes, the ones that are enjoying it.

01:39:22.000 They're like, yeah, I'm tricking them and I like it.

01:39:23.000 Like I'm telling you, there was a person at Occupy Wall Street who said they just wanted to watch the world burn.

01:39:27.000 It was fun.

01:39:28.000 Don't you want to just shake it all up and watch it burn?

01:39:29.000 And I'm like, no, what?

01:39:32.000 That was the mentality of some of these people.

01:39:35.000 Shane H. Wilder says not to downplay the situation, which probably would not have happened if Trump was in office, but how long until we're in hot war?

01:39:41.000 No wartime president has ever lost, so this could be used to bolster Biden's numbers.

01:39:45.000 I do not think so!

01:39:46.000 I don't.

01:39:49.000 I mean, I get it, but Biden is not a wartime president.

01:39:53.000 Biden is a resident of the White House during war.

01:39:58.000 There's a difference.

01:39:59.000 He's just not lucid.

01:40:01.000 No wartime president is lost because they get up on stage and they say, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT STAND!

01:40:06.000 And then everyone's like, what?

01:40:07.000 They're all screaming and cheering.

01:40:09.000 Biden's gonna be like, you know, come on, man.

01:40:12.000 They're bombing Lebanon! 1.00

01:40:14.000 And they'll be like, no, it's Israel that got attacked.

01:40:16.000 Like, what?

01:40:17.000 Libya!

01:40:17.000 And they'll be like, oh, jeez.

01:40:19.000 Whatever.

01:40:19.000 Well, Biden just sort of makes things up as wrong, so we're pretending that we're not as involved in a lot of wars that we are obviously involved in, right?

01:40:26.000 I don't think he's a wartime president, but he's also not successfully handling any of the conflict he's gotten us entangled in.

01:40:32.000 Yeah, if he's a wartime president, he really messed up that Afghanistan situation.

01:40:34.000 The emperor's champion says, I have completely lost any sympathy I had for the Palestinians, and I don't believe anything the left says about Israel because of how much they lie. 0.93

01:40:41.000 Yeah, but it's not all Palestinians.

01:40:43.000 It's really this militant group.

01:40:46.000 No, bro, you can't have...

01:40:49.000 Every prominent speaker be like, yay, we did it.

01:40:52.000 And then when you're like, whoa, you guys align with Hamas?

01:40:55.000 No, no, they're a military group.

01:40:56.000 And then they'll look at each other and give them like, dude, I suppose those celebrating Hamas's moves would be in support of Hamas. 0.79

01:41:03.000 Imagine, imagine just like, Okay, obviously we as American citizens are not happy with what's happening in Ukraine, but you better believe they're taking your tax dollars and using it to fund the war in Ukraine.

01:41:15.000 I wrote this on Twitter, ignorantly supporting something doesn't make you an advocate for it, but history might not know the difference.

01:41:21.000 However, Russia wanting the U.S.

01:41:24.000 to stop its NATO expansionist policies is not going to differentiate between any of us.

01:41:30.000 They're going to be like, the United States is the machine by which we are being attacked. 0.57

01:41:33.000 I guess that's why you don't kill civilians.

01:41:35.000 And Putin specifically was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we won't do anything if you promise not to expand NATO.

01:41:39.000 And Joe Biden was like, hmm, can't promise that.

01:41:41.000 So where was our compromise then?

01:41:44.000 And that's the point.

01:41:45.000 When Hamas goes and just starts kidnapping and killing civilians and threatening to kill more, you know who the bad guys are.

01:41:51.000 I'm not saying Israel is good. 1.00

01:41:52.000 I'm not saying the war or the occupation or anything was good and, you know, everyone likes what's happening.

01:41:56.000 I'm saying one side... Let's put it this way.

01:41:59.000 Let's say Israel is just better at propaganda. 1.00

01:42:01.000 And they're like, when we do it, we'll make sure we're doing it smart.

01:42:04.000 Okay, well then the public face of all of this is Israel is trying to avoid civilian deaths, but still collateral damage happens and civilians die.

01:42:11.000 And Hamas is gloating and threatening to kill more.

01:42:14.000 Yeah.

01:42:15.000 Dude, I was thinking, why are they showing video of these atrocities that they're committing?

01:42:19.000 Like Israel, at least, if they're gonna do it, they seem to do it under the radar. 0.90

01:42:22.000 And it's like, is it just their desire to be known, to be relevant?

01:42:26.000 It supersedes even that, the desire to hide their evil deeds?

01:42:29.000 Why do you record your songs and play them?

01:42:32.000 I want to show people.

01:42:33.000 Yeah, why?

01:42:34.000 Are you proud of it?

01:42:35.000 Yeah.

01:42:36.000 Isn't that wild?

01:42:38.000 People just want to be relevant, they want to be seen.

01:42:40.000 It's not about relevant, it's about them.

01:42:42.000 These people in New York are cheering for what happened.

01:42:45.000 They're clapping and hooting and cheering.

01:42:47.000 The people in Hamas who are doing this want to show those videos to those people so they cheer for them. 0.88

01:42:54.000 God, man, some of it's so brutal.

01:42:55.000 I've only seen a few of the really rough stuff.

01:42:57.000 Evil people want to seek praise from other evil people.

01:43:00.000 A guy said he saw a video of a girl on fire.

01:43:02.000 Did you guys see that video?

01:43:03.000 I wouldn't doubt it.

01:43:04.000 I'm sure.

01:43:05.000 For a long time, until she died.

01:43:06.000 Yeah.

01:43:07.000 Takes a while.

01:43:09.000 I mean, there's a reason they were like, we're gonna execute people on TV, right?

01:43:12.000 Yep, that's why ISIS had, like, the best media team ever.

01:43:15.000 So it's a reason for that.

01:43:16.000 And they hung out on Twitter for a really long time, from what I remember.

01:43:18.000 Yeah, mm-hmm.

01:43:19.000 SeaWarrior says, Ian, I am constantly impressed with your willingness to be open and vulnerable.

01:43:24.000 Your body is your temple to God, and when you honor it, you open your doors to him.

01:43:28.000 Thank you.

01:43:28.000 I'm telling you, Ian started working out, now he's praying to Jesus!

01:43:31.000 It's true, I prayed to Jesus earlier.

01:43:32.000 Right on the right wing extremist pipeline, like in Florida.

01:43:35.000 That's right!

01:43:36.000 That's cool.

01:43:36.000 You can pray to your father, your mother, your sister.

01:43:39.000 You can pray to anyone and you'll hear their voice talk back to you.

01:43:43.000 At least from my experience, it seems to work.

01:43:45.000 I don't think you're praying to them, but I understand.

01:43:47.000 It's like God speaks to you through the visage of what you pray to.

01:43:50.000 You could say that, sure.

01:43:52.000 Ian starts working out.

01:43:53.000 Look what's going on.

01:43:54.000 Oh, I worked out today.

01:43:55.000 See?

01:43:55.000 I'm telling you guys.

01:43:56.000 Hell yeah.

01:43:57.000 Good job, man.

01:43:58.000 All right.

01:44:00.000 Andrew Roland says, what everyone is forgetting is that Hamas attacked civilians, not an army base.

01:44:04.000 Oh, so this is my argument.

01:44:04.000 Once you directly go for the civilians, all gloves are off.

01:44:06.000 The counter argument that you're going to get with that argument, and you're right, they did, but is that Israel has been sieging civilians and starving them and having them live without medicine.

01:44:16.000 So it's like a passive attack on civilians.

01:44:22.000 I'm not sure I follow.

01:44:23.000 That's the argument that the Palestinians are making is that Israel has been passively attacking the civilians by putting them in a siege situation.

01:44:29.000 The conditions in Gaza are brutal and it's very, very bad.

01:44:33.000 Israel controls a lot of what goes into and out of the Gaza Strip.

01:44:36.000 There's also a border with Egypt.

01:44:37.000 The Gaza Strip borders Egypt.

01:44:39.000 What is it, the Rafah?

01:44:41.000 Which crossing is that?

01:44:43.000 So it's not just Israel.

01:44:44.000 It's not just Israel's fault. 0.59

01:44:45.000 Why isn't Egypt opening the borders and helping people?

01:44:49.000 Why is Egypt doing this?

01:44:50.000 Egypt was actually flooding the tunnels under Gaza.

01:44:53.000 Why would Egypt do this? 0.98

01:44:54.000 They put poisonous gas down there.

01:44:55.000 Ian, why is Egypt starving the people of Gaza?

01:44:57.000 Because they work for us, man.

01:44:58.000 They work for the liberal economic order.

01:45:00.000 They don't want to spread the anger.

01:45:02.000 Everyone keeps saying Israel, but they forgot there's another border here.

01:45:06.000 Well, Egypt told Israel something big was happening.

01:45:10.000 Remember that report?

01:45:10.000 That's right.

01:45:11.000 And that's supposed to paint Israel in a bad light.

01:45:14.000 Weirdly, the country that moderates between the two had this information, apparently.

01:45:14.000 Right.

01:45:17.000 I mean, it all just seems like, you know, I don't want to say anything that I don't know about, but it seems like obviously there is nuance to this conflict that none of us pay attention, or it's difficult for people who are not there to know all the details of.

01:45:29.000 Number one American Rob says, Ian is correct. 0.99

01:45:32.000 9-11 was the start.

01:45:33.000 I can't believe I just said, Ian is correct.

01:45:35.000 It really is the end.

01:45:37.000 It's just the beginning, man.

01:45:40.000 Gary Will says, how did the DSA know to have a rally the day after the attack?

01:45:43.000 It takes weeks to permit.

01:45:45.000 I want all members to question, including the squad, and begin the expulsion of the squad for their support of the attack.

01:45:50.000 Organizing these rallies is a day of thing.

01:45:53.000 In New York, everyone just hops on the train and meets up in Times Square.

01:45:55.000 When the DSA put out a tweet, that was it.

01:45:57.000 The event was organized and they don't need permits for it because it's free speech.

01:46:00.000 That being said, I believe it is entirely justified.

01:46:03.000 Okay.

01:46:05.000 AOC needs to answer for that video.

01:46:07.000 What does that mean?

01:46:08.000 I'm not saying disavow.

01:46:10.000 I'm saying a journalist should ask AOC.

01:46:11.000 You, AOC, are a card-carrying member of the Democratic Socialists of America who promoted an event where they celebrated the murder of civilians.

01:46:18.000 Do you agree with your organization, or is this an instance where your opinion stands out?

01:46:24.000 And I will say, to me, from checking her Twitter, I haven't seen any statements come out about any of this, so it seems like her office is going dark.

01:46:30.000 Yeah, they're celebrating.

01:46:31.000 How hard is it to be like, kill civilians?

01:46:33.000 I bet there are journalists that are trying to get a hold of her, and she is stealthily avoiding this, which is not a great sign, you know?

01:46:41.000 Well, I just think it's, I'm just gonna come out and say it, AOC has not issued a statement condemning an organization she's a member of celebrating the mass killing of Jews.

01:46:52.000 When did, she hasn't even posted on Twitter in like three days?

01:46:55.000 Right.

01:46:55.000 Wow.

01:46:56.000 I mean like, you can't come out and condemn violence?

01:46:56.000 She went dark.

01:47:00.000 I thought, what? 0.93

01:47:02.000 I think it's because she knows that her base is a bunch of people who hate Israel and hate Jewish people.

01:47:09.000 And I think you'll see this throughout the Democratic Party.

01:47:11.000 There is going to be a lot of people who are now losing support because there is probably no correct way to make everyone happy.

01:47:18.000 Can we just imagine, like, a politician who is a known member of the Klan, and the Klan goes out celebrating the lynching of a black guy, and then people are like, well, you know, AOC, like, the politician didn't know about it.

01:47:29.000 I'm like, dude, she's a member of that organization.

01:47:31.000 Proudly.

01:47:32.000 Proudly affiliated.

01:47:34.000 They're celebrating the death of civilians.

01:47:36.000 And she goes dark.

01:47:38.000 Yeah, I think she supports it.

01:47:39.000 Yep.

01:47:40.000 I think it is fair to say right now Ocasio-Cortez supports what happened with Hamas coming and killing civilians.

01:47:45.000 But it might also be like if she did speak out against it that her base would revolt.

01:47:49.000 That's a good point.

01:47:50.000 So if she speaks out against... She is defending, she is supporting her constituents.

01:47:54.000 Yeah, inaction is inaction.

01:47:56.000 I mean, in this regard, what I'm saying is, she doesn't want to cause damage to the people she supports.

01:48:03.000 That's interesting, too, because she's supposed to be a representative of the people she represents, so if they want war, does that mean she has to want war?

01:48:09.000 No, a representative is supposed to be the safeguard for that.

01:48:12.000 She should come out and condemn the killing of civilians, but she knows she will get eviscerated by the left.

01:48:18.000 So she says nothing, because she's evil.

01:48:21.000 I think it's funny, though, that the Democrats that are condemning her are staunch interventionists, and they're like, what a horrible thing for this squad to say!

01:48:30.000 Send our troops over to Israel and send more money!

01:48:32.000 It's like, oh, jeez.

01:48:33.000 It's one or the other, huh?

01:48:35.000 I saw that Mike Cernovich tweet about people that were so much about pro-life, life in the womb.

01:48:38.000 He's like, if a baby dies in the womb in Gaza, is that an abortion?

01:48:42.000 Yeah, Cernovich is great.

01:48:43.000 He's a smart guy.

01:48:44.000 That's a good point.

01:48:45.000 Right, I think the problem is we're dealing with war.

01:48:49.000 Israel is going to respond. 0.98

01:48:51.000 The al-Qassam brigades use civilian locations, hospitals, schools, etc., or if they have hospitals, intentionally.

01:48:59.000 And then Israel's only choice is either you take out where the rockets are coming from, or you let them keep firing rockets at you. 0.58

01:49:05.000 If Israel did not have the Iron Dome, the narrative would be very, very different.

01:49:09.000 The narrative would be every day another Israeli was being killed, killed, killed, killed, killed.

01:49:13.000 And it would not be the same for the people of Palestine, of Gaza.

01:49:17.000 But because they have the Iron Dome, this is the craziest thing.

01:49:20.000 Antifa beats people consistently.

01:49:23.000 But because they're not killing them, because these people are, you know, more likely to survive or whatever, it doesn't make the news.

01:49:29.000 That's the issue.

01:49:31.000 Because Israel is able to stop the rockets, people act like Israel's fine.

01:49:36.000 I'm like, bro, I mean, if they didn't have the Iron Dome, the narrative would be very different.

01:49:39.000 It's crazy, isn't it?

01:49:41.000 We need a Graphene Dome.

01:49:43.000 Someone wrote in the chat, right when I said it, Mark Johnson.

01:49:46.000 That's awesome.

01:49:46.000 What's up, dude?

01:49:47.000 Right after I said it, it appeared.

01:49:48.000 The Iron Dome is actually just, when a rocket's fired, another rocket blows it up.

01:49:52.000 Yeah.

01:49:53.000 Yeah.

01:49:53.000 They cost, I think they said, 20 times more.

01:49:56.000 Each Israeli rocket costs 20 times as much as each Palestinian rocket that's blowing up.

01:50:00.000 And the Palestinians are just firing a bunch of rockets at random, hoping to hit as many civilians as possible.

01:50:04.000 And they do.

01:50:04.000 Yeah.

01:50:05.000 They're targeting civilians.

01:50:06.000 That's why they cheered that the rockets reached Tel Aviv.

01:50:10.000 That's crazy.

01:50:11.000 In what circumstance have we ever, as a nation, in war, been like, yeah, we bombed a bunch of civilians.

01:50:17.000 We've never been the under, well, I never, the American Revolution, we're kind of an underdog.

01:50:17.000 It's not happened.

01:50:22.000 Yeah.

01:50:23.000 But the underdog when you're like I would imagine it and if you're like oppressed and you're in complete and total slave servitude Like you'll do whatever you can to get out anything.

01:50:33.000 I don't see how Killing civilians helps anyone in that circumstance. Like I was saying, if 1.00

01:50:41.000 you're in prison and you break out, and the first thing you do is run full speed and mercilessly

01:50:46.000 beat to death a 20-year-old woman, everyone's going to be like, clearly freedom wasn't his

01:50:51.000 first priority.

01:50:52.000 Like, the argument is that these barriers and these fences are keeping them in prison,

01:50:56.000 so they're breaking out. Al Jazeera put out that video where they're like, these fences

01:51:00.000 are not borders and they're kept in there with no resources or whatever.

01:51:05.000 So when they return, they're tearing these barricades down.

01:51:08.000 And I'm like, yeah, and then they're running full speed and just going and murdering civilians.

01:51:11.000 It doesn't help their case.

01:51:13.000 Exactly.

01:51:14.000 Yeah, if they broke out, and like I said, targeted only military and ushered civilians away, imagine if they tore the barricades down, paraglided in, Rounded up all the civilians and then said, start leaving, get in your cars and go.

01:51:27.000 Go, go, go, go.

01:51:28.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:51:29.000 We don't want you guys getting caught in this.

01:51:31.000 And then actually the militants seized the territory and held it.

01:51:35.000 Very different.

01:51:35.000 And then issued a declaration that this land is historically Palestine.

01:51:38.000 It was seized illegally by Israel.

01:51:40.000 They've evacuated the civilians, but are claiming this territory.

01:51:43.000 What would the narrative have been then?

01:51:44.000 It would have been a very, very different narrative.

01:51:46.000 Still war, still conflict.

01:51:48.000 Gunfight probably would have still happened, but we would be sitting there being like, why are they killing civilians?

01:51:52.000 I was reading that in Israel that a lot of them are disarmed, they don't have guns, and a big part of the problem right now is that Hamas knew that.

01:51:59.000 That's why they were going door-to-door, slowly, just executing people.

01:52:03.000 And then the Israeli government issued, like, an emergency order to give people the right to get guns really, really rapidly.

01:52:08.000 I can't believe that Israel had gun control like this.

01:52:10.000 Yeah, me either.

01:52:11.000 It's crazy, dude!

01:52:12.000 It's a war zone!

01:52:13.000 It's absolute necessity for a Second Amendment for a right to bear arms, that is why.

01:52:16.000 I think one of the things about Hamas, too, is how can they say they represent people in Palestine when they're willing to put them in harm's way, knowingly put them in harm's way, and put those surface-to-air missiles, et cetera, in their hospitals? 0.86

01:52:26.000 How can you say you represent Palestinians who are willing to get them killed?

01:52:28.000 They say they got nothing left to lose.

01:52:30.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess.

01:52:31.000 All the people you're fighting for, you don't mind if they all die?

01:52:34.000 That's where I draw the line.

01:52:34.000 I don't know about that.

01:52:36.000 Alright.

01:52:37.000 Mick Morris says, To Ian, the Holy Spirit is with you.

01:52:40.000 Don't be afraid.

01:52:41.000 Be glad.

01:52:41.000 Let the Holy Spirit work inside.

01:52:43.000 Trust the Word.

01:52:43.000 I recommend you read the New Testament book, 1 John.

01:52:46.000 It's a short read.

01:52:47.000 God bless.

01:52:48.000 Thanks.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, my plan is to read the Bible, the Torah, and the Qur'an.

01:52:52.000 Yeah.

01:52:53.000 I gave him the old Qur'an, maybe.

01:52:55.000 I gave him the Talmud and the Torah as well, right?

01:52:57.000 Yeah.

01:52:57.000 Yeah, that's John 1, I think you said?

01:52:59.000 John 1, yeah.

01:53:00.000 Oh, I was reading the Sermon on the Mount, dude.

01:53:01.000 But also the- First John.

01:53:03.000 What is it, a Hadith?

01:53:03.000 Is that it?

01:53:04.000 Hadith are, like, additions to the Qur'an.

01:53:06.000 The Qur'an is the main book.

01:53:07.000 Hadith are other additions.

01:53:08.000 But if you want to understand a lot of what we're saying, you've got to read that Hadith.

01:53:11.000 Right, it's the Hadith.

01:53:12.000 There are many of them.

01:53:14.000 by Islamic scholars who have studied the Quran, who said that they have some sort of connection

01:53:18.000 to allow them to write more about it.

01:53:19.000 But yeah, the Talmud is like the, from what I understand, the other book, like the Hadith

01:53:23.000 in a sense, it's addition to the main book.

01:53:25.000 It's like the footnotes for dummies? 0.67

01:53:27.000 The Torah for dummies and the Quran for dummies? 0.63

01:53:29.000 It's addition. 0.88

01:53:30.000 Other reading.

01:53:31.000 Additional reading.

01:53:32.000 Does the Bible have anything like that?

01:53:33.000 I mean, not really.

01:53:34.000 Old Testament, New Testament.

01:53:35.000 Yeah.

01:53:35.000 you.

01:53:37.000 Alright, MonkInTraining says, Tim, US supports Israel because it's a cultural technological intelligence ally.

01:53:42.000 Ian, what are you seeing now the results of a culture at war with the West at large and Israel?

01:53:50.000 Peace can't be held when you have enemies that want you dead.

01:53:52.000 I don't understand the question exactly.

01:53:54.000 I don't think it's a question, I think he's saying you can't have peace if the other side wants you dead.

01:54:00.000 Like if there's two people and one guy's like, look man, can we just leave each other alone?

01:54:05.000 The other guy is saying like, no, I want death.

01:54:07.000 In the United States, that's why you carry a weapon.

01:54:10.000 And so the left makes the argument, which they're lying, where they show the comic where it's the Klan and a bunch of black people and a guy in the middle saying compromise, which is literally not the argument between left and right. 0.90

01:54:19.000 Left and right is saying destroy the right, they're evil, they're fascists, and the right saying, please leave me alone.

01:54:22.000 You know why?

01:54:23.000 Because I believe deep down most of the anger and aggression is about territory, that the United States has invaded Iraq, invaded Afghanistan, Libya, and that Israel was formed in 1918 or whenever it was formed and put there.

01:54:36.000 So like, I don't think they hate, just hate me.

01:54:39.000 I think that they hate that we've colonized that area of the world and displaced them.

01:54:44.000 Mr. Avi says, the amount of people justifying war crimes right now is astounding.

01:54:48.000 The same people who said Russia was evil for bombing schools and hospitals are saying it's fine when Israel bombs civilian centers.

01:54:53.000 I think it's all bad, I just want the violence to end.

01:54:56.000 And here's my response is, you are completely correct about bombing schools and hospitals, but they're not arbitrarily doing it.

01:55:00.000 Israel was not like, haha, we're gonna go blow up a hospital. 0.64

01:55:03.000 They were like, hey, all those rockets are being fired from a hospital.

01:55:05.000 What do we do?

01:55:06.000 Well...

01:55:07.000 Take it out!

01:55:08.000 That's where the rockets are coming from.

01:55:10.000 I want to give a shout out to Shuan Head, however, who tweeted, as an American, I frankly couldn't imagine having my water shut off every time my country did a war crime. 0.99

01:55:19.000 Yeah.

01:55:21.000 It's a really great tweet because it acknowledges that it was a war crime what Hamas did, but the US would be in real trouble if we kept getting our water shut off every time we did something. 0.88

01:55:30.000 True that.

01:55:31.000 That's great.

01:55:33.000 Where are we at?

01:55:35.000 Let's see, Patriot American says Hannah, the IRA, he means Hannah Clare, the IRA used to have backing from politicians, even judges of Irish Catholic descent in America, dating back to the Irish War of Independence in 1918, up until the end of the Troubles in Northern Ireland in 1995.

01:55:49.000 Oh, I forgot that we put boots on the grounds then.

01:55:51.000 We didn't, though.

01:55:52.000 I mean, it's one thing for there to be support politically, but we didn't intervene in the way that we were obviously going to in Israel.

01:55:58.000 Dude, I just love how the, like, you have this, the Troubles, you know, 30 years ago in Ireland, and they're like, Ireland for the Irish, but now they're all like globalists who are like, open borders, and like, what?

01:56:12.000 It's funny how this conflict only ended because of the European Union created the Schengen zone, so now there's like... Yeah, it was weird.

01:56:21.000 But now that's all done again, I guess, because of Brexit.

01:56:24.000 Yeah, true.

01:56:25.000 Weird.

01:56:27.000 Case Closed says, Tim, it was cool seeing you in Miami last week.

01:56:29.000 The next day was also cool because I visited the Bay of Pigs Museum and met a veteran of the invasion who actually knew Mr. Artime.

01:56:35.000 Artime?

01:56:35.000 How do you pronounce that?

01:56:37.000 Namesake of the theater.

01:56:38.000 I don't know.

01:56:39.000 Artime, probably.

01:56:40.000 Yeah, our teammate.

01:56:41.000 Wow, that's very cool, very cool.

01:56:43.000 Yeah, Miami was fun.

01:56:44.000 We're thinking Nashville for the next one.

01:56:46.000 Sounds great.

01:56:46.000 Because we were talking about Nashville for a while.

01:56:48.000 Yeah, Bass Records is there, Daily Wire is there.

01:56:50.000 I'm lobbying for Pittsburgh.

01:56:50.000 Right.

01:56:52.000 I've been a huge fan of the city.

01:56:53.000 I've never been.

01:56:54.000 Why Pittsburgh?

01:56:55.000 Oh, I like Pittsburgh because... It's two hours away?

01:56:58.000 No, no, no.

01:57:00.000 You know, we can travel.

01:57:01.000 But I like Pittsburgh because it's this industrial city in a swing state that's gone through kind of all the changes with America.

01:57:07.000 Oh, that's good.

01:57:08.000 You know, the Heinz Ketchup Museum is there because that was sort of this political industrial dynasty.

01:57:13.000 And, you know... We should do it.

01:57:14.000 Thank you.

01:57:15.000 I think so, too.

01:57:16.000 The thing about Pittsburgh that's really easy for us is I think it's actually like two hours and 45 minutes from us.

01:57:20.000 Yeah, it's real close.

01:57:20.000 Which means when we did Miami, we have to deploy the mobile studio.

01:57:24.000 They're still not back.

01:57:26.000 What's up?

01:57:26.000 They're still not back.

01:57:27.000 Yeah, they're still not back.

01:57:28.000 No, they're still driving.

01:57:29.000 Are they okay?

01:57:30.000 Yeah, they're fine.

01:57:31.000 They're just driving.

01:57:32.000 But if we do Pittsburgh, it's literally, we just drive up.

01:57:36.000 Yeah.

01:57:37.000 Friday afternoon, we drive up to Pittsburgh and do the show.

01:57:39.000 It's substantially easier than doing these trips that are further out.

01:57:42.000 It's great.

01:57:43.000 Yeah, I mean, I think Pittsburgh is a really interesting city.

01:57:45.000 I will say I've never been there, I've just read a lot about it because I keep thinking I will go there.

01:57:50.000 But it's, to me, a representation of a lot of cities in America that get left behind, and I know that there's an argument to being like, oh, we should bring our show to places that are more liberal-centered, but I think, especially because Pennsylvania is such an interesting place generally, I'm all for Pittsburgh.

01:58:04.000 You know, then we all go to the Heinz Ketcher Museum or we go to the, um, is it?

01:58:07.000 Pozo's a PA boy, right? 0.90

01:58:10.000 I think so?

01:58:11.000 I always think he's Maryland, but I could be wrong.

01:58:13.000 Oh yeah, he's Philly.

01:58:14.000 Yeah, we gotta have him come down.

01:58:15.000 Yeah, we can go look at these old beautiful Victorian mansions that were built up during the industrial era of America.

01:58:21.000 We can talk about where the manufacturing jobs went.

01:58:24.000 There's this hotel that's in an old monastery that I would personally like to see.

01:58:28.000 Come on, Pittsburgh is cool, guys!

01:58:30.000 Well no, I think we can do Pittsburgh within a couple months because it's a drive.

01:58:35.000 We do the show like normal and then Friday night we drive up.

01:58:37.000 And it's near WVU, it's really close, so it'd be cool to sort of figure out a way to support our West Virginia crew.

01:58:44.000 The Nashville thing is going to be another deploy the mobile crew a week in Nashville.

01:58:47.000 These are big trips, they're really hard to pull off, takes a really long time.

01:58:51.000 I think if we do Pittsburgh we could get it done in like four or five months preparation for it.

01:58:55.000 Not to make our events team immediately jump into action.

01:58:57.000 People don't understand how hard it is.

01:59:01.000 So for the Miami event, we are slightly above break-even across the board.

01:59:07.000 This means basically like the only money I think we made was merch, it was a couple grand.

01:59:10.000 The event, it's cost six figures to operate, to do everything we need to do to make it work.

01:59:16.000 And in the end, We were like, yay, we did it.

01:59:19.000 We made a good amount of money.

01:59:20.000 And I'm like, and that money goes towards setting up the next event.

01:59:23.000 Because if we call it here and say, here's the money we got, it's like, okay, well, like we didn't make enough.

01:59:29.000 I think it'd be cool.

01:59:29.000 I mean, I don't have anything to do with the events.

01:59:31.000 I'm really grateful to people that do, they work really hard.

01:59:33.000 But it would be interesting if we kind of do a home and away format where we do like, you know, two hour to three hour drive from us, do that radius and then have the bigger trips too.

01:59:42.000 Because like DC would be really easy.

01:59:44.000 DC would be really easy.

01:59:46.000 Honestly, we'd go to Richmond, although Richmond's kind of a hostile place.

01:59:49.000 We'd go to Cleveland, hang out in Ohio.

01:59:51.000 Obviously, Pittsburgh is number one in my heart.

01:59:54.000 We have to go there first.

01:59:54.000 Why?

01:59:55.000 I don't know.

01:59:56.000 I think part of it was when I moved to West Virginia, it was like during the pandemic, and so there wasn't a ton of things to do.

02:00:01.000 So I kept thinking, when things get open or whatever else, I'll go.

02:00:06.000 I honestly the anthropology home outlet is near Pittsburgh and so in my mind I was like I'll go there and then I'll I wouldn't do Philly though just personally I wouldn't do Philly and I wouldn't do Baltimore to be honest but there are other places in Virginia in West Virginia you know again Pennsylvania I'm gonna I'm gonna pitch Pittsburgh.

02:00:21.000 Pittsburgh's a good idea.

02:00:23.000 Nancy had mentioned it to us about a public hospital.

02:00:24.000 Yeah I've been lobbying Nancy for a couple months on it.

02:00:27.000 I'd love to do Akron, Ohio, my hometown.

02:00:29.000 No, I agree.

02:00:29.000 I think we should.

02:00:30.000 And it would be awesome if we could get Vivek, because he's from Ohio, to do an event there.

02:00:36.000 They've got Blossom Music Center.

02:00:37.000 We can make RFK come to our Pittsburgh event, since apparently he lives in Pennsylvania.

02:00:42.000 All right, we'll grab one more Super Chat here.

02:00:43.000 We got Luke Watt who says, Ian, as soon as I heard you say, Jesus told me to tell you, and God told me to respond, here's to my first Super Chat, very well spent.

02:00:50.000 I hope you grow to know and love God.

02:00:52.000 I know the God of love, the God of joy, the God of peace, the God of hope would love to talk.

02:00:57.000 I'm just saying, you know, Ian starts working out and we said he was going to be conservative.

02:01:01.000 The prayer was, I visualized, I said, Jesus, please help me.

02:01:05.000 And it was a voice like, tell them.

02:01:08.000 And so I just thought, okay, I'll tell you that I asked him.

02:01:12.000 I guess that's what I got out of it.

02:01:13.000 Maybe if my head was clearer, there would have been a longer message.

02:01:16.000 The pineal gland is decalcifying and the energy is being beamed into you, Ian.

02:01:21.000 I try to keep asking him things and it's like, it starts to get like, all this, what do you call it?

02:01:28.000 Interference.

02:01:28.000 There started to be interference.

02:01:29.000 So you got to kind of, one question at a time, relax, let your brain calm down after the message comes.

02:01:33.000 Because when you're in a calm state is when you can really hear the message.

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02:02:19.000 Guys, thank you so much, and thanks to everyone who came out to the Miami event.

02:02:21.000 It was so fun.

02:02:22.000 Oh my gosh, and thanks to the road crew.

02:02:24.000 Brian, Carter, who else is out there?

02:02:26.000 Sarah, Chris.

02:02:27.000 Everybody.

02:02:27.000 We got Andrew Minks is on the road.

02:02:30.000 Nope, Andrew's not on the road.

02:02:31.000 He went down there, though.

02:02:33.000 Oh, he didn't go down? 1.00

02:02:34.000 Andrew, you suck. 1.00

02:02:35.000 Just kidding. 0.98

02:02:37.000 And a message for everyone else, Allah Hashim, I pray for the God that they give goodness to the people that need it, the things that they need, that they come together and they start to see each other for what they are, that they're all human on earth together, and that we're doing this together, and that we will work together.

02:02:51.000 And I'll see you guys tomorrow.

02:02:53.000 Yep.

02:02:53.000 Shout out to Carter and Brian and the rest of Rage Clue, including Chris and Sarah, I think are also on the way back.

02:02:59.000 It was fun to be in Miami.

02:02:59.000 I'm sorry I didn't see anybody.

02:03:00.000 I know a bunch of people messaged me about not being at the event, but when you're there working in the morning and you want to go home and change clothes because you're sweating, it's Miami.

02:03:06.000 Sometimes you got to make calls.

02:03:08.000 So, sorry y'all.

02:03:09.000 It certainly wasn't pretty enough for you guys.

02:03:10.000 We got on the boat.

02:03:10.000 Sorry about that.

02:03:11.000 Yeah, the boat was cold.

02:03:12.000 Wonderful.

02:03:13.000 All right, everybody.

02:03:14.000 We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 09, 2023

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