00:03:15.000Guys, I know a lot of people, they say, we need to talk about hardcore policy.
00:03:20.000There's this older gentleman I know is a friend of mine, and he says, when you talk about what's actually going on with taxes and health care, maybe then we can have a serious country.
00:03:29.000And I'm like, listen, that's all happening too, and we'll talk about it.
00:03:33.000Kash Patel had a hearing, the FBI over, it was an oversight hearing for the FBI.
00:03:49.000I think the media has gone generally insane.
00:03:51.000I think, unfortunately, a lot of people want insanity.
00:03:54.000I think there's, unfortunately, a small amount of people, namely all of you watching, who want a degree of sanity.
00:04:01.000But it really just is, you know, guys, when we're at the point where Tucker Carlson has a guy in the show who says algebra is fake, I'm like, I think we've jumped the shark culturally.
00:04:11.000And, you know, I'll just say this I had some conversations with people.
00:05:10.000But yeah, we'll talk a bit about this.
00:05:12.000One of the stories that I saw, I don't know if you saw, they're saying that experimental treatment may have just cured a three year old's cancer.
00:07:25.000But I do think it's important to bring up what is happening economically with gas prices, just how people are feeling right now.
00:07:33.000There's a reason why these companies are able to sponsor and advertise because they're genuinely helping people, but people genuinely are facing economic hardship.
00:09:59.000I think it was Lindy Man that dubbed it the Vulgar Wave, which was when a lot of these companies were marketing towards men and sort of masculinity in the maybe more raw sense, I guess, was the common accepted interpretation of masculinity in the culture, where now that's sort of shamed.
00:10:18.000So when we see stuff like this, that once again would have been very common in 2005, no one would have batted an eye, it is very shocking and that sort of thing.
00:10:26.000But, you know, some people are like, see, this is proof woke is dead.
00:10:29.000I'm like, the fact that it's such a big story shows that it's actually.
00:10:34.000And the fact that it's a company that is already, you know, sports betting is not really considered a very, I mean, it's mainstream, but it's not considered a sort of acceptable form of doing business, kind of like a magazine would be.
00:10:50.000So they're not trying to, like, you know, keep their image clean.
00:11:24.000Look, this kind of stuff, I've been like, when I go on PCC and we talk about, you know, the woke stuff or the advertisements that are coming out, it is, in my opinion, Even though there are people that take objection to the racy nature of this kind of thing, it's my opinion that advertising being aspirational again is a good thing.
00:11:47.000I think that having attractive people in your advertisement is good because you want people to look at your product and say, I want to feel good when I look at this or when I purchase this product.
00:12:02.000People want to see themselves in the product.
00:12:05.000They look at an attractive model, whether it be a female or a male.
00:12:10.000I was so done with the Calvin Klein ads, with the androgynous fat people, with Nike's advertisements that had overweight people.
00:12:58.000No, you know, the old conspiracy theory is that I think the big start of the body positivity was Dove, the Real Beauty campaign 10 years ago.
00:13:09.000The thing is, they were owned by Unilever, who also owned Ben Jerry's.
00:13:15.000So, when you think about the consolidation of products and corporations, you've got an executive being like, why are we advertising these women that are aspirational but selling women ice cream?
00:13:26.000They're not going to buy one or the other.
00:14:27.000Like, why are you still allowing yourself to be morbidly obese?
00:14:30.000So, um, I guess what I'm trying to get at here is you know, as it becomes optional and like the main faces, the very large faces of the fat acceptance movement are now slim, very large faces, yeah, they're very small.
00:14:43.000They don't have they don't have they lost their quarterbacks, they lost their linebackers.
00:14:49.000Like, who's I don't want to say the wrong female pop star, but there's like a morbidly obese female pop star now, you know what I'm talking about.
00:14:56.000Well, Lizzo slimmed down, no, no, there's a I don't want to say the wrong one.
00:16:12.000But I mean, the fact that people, I mean, whether you're using GLP 1s or just living a more healthy lifestyle, the fact that people are trying to no longer be overweight is an unabashed good for society.
00:16:32.000On the one hand, naked Sydney Sweeney, you know what I mean?
00:16:35.000But on the other hand, sports betting.
00:16:37.000Well, that's the reason that they're going forward with it is because they're targeting a very narrow demographic, which is young men who are kind of chuds in some way.
00:16:47.000If you're sports betting, you're just kind of a bonehead, to be completely honest with you, because the odds are so stacked against you.
00:16:52.000At least there's some decorum in going to the casino, right?
00:16:56.000There's a house edge that's like four or five free drinks, four or five points spread.
00:17:00.000Sports betting, Sagar and Jetty's done like pretty, he's articulated the dangers of it.
00:17:20.000Well, and prediction markets are like slightly different, but like sports betting insofar as, hey, the house is presenting you the odds you're allowed to bet on.
00:17:28.000Just the proposition is crazy to think about, where at least with the betting market, they're kind of just facilitating the trades.
00:17:35.000It's still, You know, debate to be had there, but the sports betting is just ridiculous and you're guaranteed to lose money.
00:17:40.000Um, so the people that they're targeting are this, this is going to move the needle for them.
00:17:45.000Not that I'm necessarily upset about it, I'm just trying to say that it shouldn't be shocking that a sports betting company is like, Yeah, we're going to put a naked woman on there.
00:17:52.000The other possibility is they planted that story too, right?
00:18:00.000But I mean, the fact that she lost 200,000 followers and all that, that could have been like, I mean, who knows if she would have lost 200,000 followers?
00:19:09.000So if you think about what happens to a society when every car is owned by like one company, Uber is going to own a fleet of self driving cars, CyberCab.
00:19:22.000So you, the regular person, won't have a car anymore.
00:19:25.000Shareholders in Tesla will, they'll own those fleets that you pay for.
00:19:29.000So, there will be people who get money through what they own, and there'll be people who have nothing.
00:19:33.000But I want to stress this too about the sports betting.
00:19:36.000The reason why I think the prediction betting, sports betting stuff is getting so big, and casinos are popping up everywhere, I think people in government know, and this conversation's come up.
00:19:45.000When you eliminate white collar work, what do you have to occupy the time and mind of an individual?
00:19:52.000So, guys, track the casinos being built right now, and you will.
00:21:19.000Instead of the gladiators, people aren't killing each other for sport, but we're talking about Sidney Sweeney being naked and gambling and betting on sports betting and going to the casino and watching football games.
00:21:30.000I think our society's become because we're so.
00:23:22.000And I think they expect the future to be you wake up and work is like your AI automated.
00:23:30.000Slop content producer for YouTube, where bots from India watch the videos and you get paid.
00:23:35.000And then you put that money into a sports prediction app, and the people who are wealthier are going to be good at predicting who wins sports.
00:23:43.000And, you know, it's just insane that we've come to a point where people are wagering money on whether or not I will do something personally.
00:23:55.000Like, I just, I think the future is going to be really weird.
00:23:58.000You're not going to wake up and be like, I got to.
00:24:07.000Well, you know, I just got to sit there and like monitor the agents and make sure their predictions are lining up and getting executed properly.
00:24:13.000So I, you know, it's nine to five, you know, like anybody else, I work hard every day.
00:24:17.000I like the idea of that being a hard work.
00:24:20.000But sure, but I mean, look where we are right now.
00:24:23.000Are we happy with the hard work we have?
00:24:25.000Well, I mean, go back to a farmer and his family and explain to him the world he's building.
00:24:31.000Will result in five guys sitting around talking about some naked chick and making tons of money doing it.
00:24:36.000And they're going to be like, that's absurd.
00:24:39.000Like, well, that's the world you're building.
00:24:41.000Well, I mean, look, there's still people that actually do have hard jobs and work hard in modern society.
00:24:46.000There are more jobs that are, you know, whether they're white collar jobs or entertainment jobs, there are more of those now than there were in history.
00:24:56.000But there's still a lot of people that work hard, like people that are digging, you know, the sewer connections, people that are, you know, working oil rigs, people that are.
00:25:05.000I think it's fair to say everybody works hard.
00:25:08.000I was watching this commie on Instagram and she was like, What do you mean you deserve the money because you worked hard?
00:25:18.000Farmer, like people picking fruits and vegetables, are working hard.
00:25:23.000And I was like, No, I completely agree with that.
00:25:25.000You can work hard at anything, it doesn't guarantee you success or anything.
00:25:28.000But I do believe that even if technology comes and changes things, people are still working hard.
00:25:35.000You're trying to solve problems, you're thinking as hard as you can, and you're doing everything you can towards your job, whatever your job may be.
00:25:40.000Again, go back 500 years and explain a supermarket to people, and they're going to be like, That's not work.
00:25:47.000Like, when I go out to work, my hands might rot and fall off, you know?
00:25:58.000I think that, I think it's probably true that like most jobs, like 20% of the people work hard and then 80% of the people kind of coast on their back.
00:26:50.000And I'm sitting here being like, it's over.
00:26:54.000Like, I was saying this before the show, like, maybe it's fine to say artificial general intelligence isn't here yet because you still have to supervise.
00:27:02.000But I actually would still argue artificial general intelligence is here because we've eliminated the bottom, not the bottom, but we've eliminated a huge chunk of administrative and, um, I don't know what the right word is.
00:27:46.000The administrative stuff is being erased.
00:27:48.000I saw, I saw seven different commercials for various AIs to do administrative work.
00:27:55.000So, right now, I know I've been talking about a bit, but with the stuff I'm doing for code development, when I say it's tedious stuff, you still need a project manager with vision, but the entry level position you'd hire, like some kid graduates college or whatever, and he's got a portfolio, and it's like, yeah, we need someone who's going to do the basic coding.
00:28:19.000The only way that the economy can survive this sort of thing.
00:28:22.000Compression would be sort of a conservative structure insofar as, okay, we need a way to have the population declining and we need a way to ensure that we can basically reduce the amount of people looking for work, right?
00:28:37.000We need to reduce the size of the workforce.
00:28:40.000The obvious, and I'm not, this isn't even a joke.
00:28:42.000I mean, there's been far more intelligent people than me that have sort of articulated this.
00:28:45.000Nate Fisher over at Newfoundland is one of them.
00:28:48.000That it could bring forth sort of this conservative demand of, hey, we want to be able, To provide for a family on a single income.
00:28:54.000That was the way that we used to have it, and people were generally quite happy with that sort of arrangement.
00:29:00.000And that would solve a lot of these social problems that we're having.
00:29:05.000Again, it would require a bit of ushering, but if we can have a situation where, okay, the workforce is compressing and now we're having less jobs, that now means labor that still exists, the demand that still exists for labor should warrant higher salaries, which means the men.
00:29:23.000That are working in these jobs should be getting higher salaries.
00:29:26.000There's less of a need for additional managerial labor, administrative work, which typically goes to women.
00:29:31.000And this will just allow generally, like, for example, a plumber, like you said, well, you know, we're cutting out a lot of this administrative work.
00:29:36.000A plumber can now run his business basically by himself.
00:29:39.000Bro, bro, hold on there, gosh darn minute.
00:29:43.000Whose house is the plumber going to service?
00:30:10.000A reduction of this kind of labor just due to population collapse and a lack of ownership and an inability to even buy as the market collapses.
00:30:19.000Perhaps when we see, you know, like, look, when the boomers are at the mortality shelf right now and every day, it's like we're watching boomers.
00:30:39.000And when houses deflate, This means that even millennials and Gen Z and Gen Xers own properties are going to see their net worth collapse if they rely on real estate for the net worth, which most people do.
00:31:11.00075% own homes, and I think on average they have at least two.
00:31:14.000What happens when those houses all flood the market?
00:31:17.000They're going to inherit it by their kids, if they have kids, and they probably do.
00:31:21.000But those kids are going to try and sell them because they don't want to move there and they're going to drop the prices down.
00:31:25.000Now, that Gen Xer who's got that collateral, the bank says, Margin call, your collateral no longer covers the loan we gave you, and we're worried you're not going to pay it back now because the market's tanking.
00:31:35.000So I wonder when I see Alex Jones and Tucker and Candace and all these people, I'm like, I think their basic strategy is it doesn't matter what people think about you when the system's on the verge of imploding.
00:31:47.000You need to extract as much of their labor as possible.
00:31:50.000Buy as much stuff as you can to sustain yourself when this all goes tits up.
00:31:55.000I mean, there's like really like, there's these really like doomer projections of what could happen.
00:31:59.000But like, also on the counter would be like, let's say the worst case scenario, the worst birth rate in the world, Japan.
00:32:57.000Because there's about like 45 million excess, like 45 million people that were born during the baby boom that were like outsized compared to previous generations that are in Japan right now.
00:33:06.000So that's how they get to that 80 million roughly.
00:33:09.000The point is, every subsequent generation is not having kids at replacement rates.
00:33:18.000So the projection for Japan is not that in the next generation, it's going to be 20 million.
00:33:21.000It's like in three or four generations, they're at 20 million.
00:33:24.000The baselines are like 80 million, though, because even with the, like, it's not exponential because they're having like one kid.
00:33:29.000So you're just seeing the population have as each generation goes on.
00:33:32.000Eventually, there's a stopgap because you have a certain proportion of the population that still maintains a certain fertility, and then those values, genetics, et cetera, are going to win.
00:33:41.000And then in a couple of generations, we see it turn around.
00:33:44.000Or it just flatlines because that's what Japan was at before, where Japan was basically hovering from 40 to 60 million.
00:33:49.000So liberalism's on the way out because they just, like the panda, can't reproduce to save their own species.
00:33:55.000And so, like, you know, so I mean, that is certainly a possibility that everything just does collapse.
00:34:00.000I mean, I don't know if the problem with, like, the problem with.
00:34:04.000Capitalism, I sound like such a Columbia student.
00:34:07.000The problem with capitalism broadly is that it is dependent on line go up.
00:34:11.000The way that we have structured our market in the United States is it is dependent on line go up.
00:34:15.000If the line goes down, in this case, population, it's tough to imagine how the economy reacts.
00:34:20.000But AI is this curveball where for 30 years, 40, 50 years, economists have been pulling their hair out.
00:34:25.000Like, what happens when the boomers die?
00:34:26.000Well, AI provides an interesting, I don't know if band aid, I think, quite frankly, just a solution for the market.
00:34:33.000There's one thing that we haven't talked about when it comes to the, you know, The economic ramifications of AI.
00:34:40.000So far, we haven't seen significant cutbacks in the labor force because of AI.
00:34:45.000There's been some, but there haven't been significant.
00:34:48.000What you're actually seeing mirrors what has happened with other technologies being introduced to the market.
00:34:55.000You're having people stay working and they're just becoming more efficient, they're becoming more productive.
00:35:03.000So I don't know that the situation is going to be where you have like a mass exodus of workers from companies.
00:35:10.000I think that, like, Like it happened during the Industrial Revolution or with just computers and personal computers in general, you see people doing more with their time and becoming more productive.
00:35:23.000So, whether or not that continues that trend, that obviously remains to be seen.
00:35:29.000But currently, we're not seeing a significant reduction in the workforce because of the implementation of AI.
00:35:35.000I think we're heading towards techno communism.
00:36:17.000Frog in the pot analogy, you know, you slowly turn up the heat.
00:36:20.000But I think people are starting to wise up to what the hell's going on.
00:36:22.000That's why they need to make sure that there is no, there doesn't need to be an FAA for AI, which is one of the things that the people are essentially using that analogy.
00:36:33.000They need some kind of oversight committee or oversight bureau in the federal government to oversee AI.
00:37:01.000The point is You can find me on Claude.
00:37:04.000When we start taking away a lot of these jobs that occupied the minds and time of the average person, I'm not saying it should be this way, but it is this way.
00:37:14.000When you say, you know, we need someone to dig ditches, but we don't need more because we have excavators and we have robots and we have AI.
00:37:20.000That person will now try to do something else.
00:37:22.000And so, what's happening is you've got people who otherwise would have been delivering packages or driving cars.
00:37:29.000I am not saying that to disparage those jobs.
00:37:31.000Those are noble and honorable professions that we need.
00:37:33.000But once those are automated, these people say, Well, what do I do now?
00:37:37.000So they look around and what are they all doing?
00:38:39.000And then seven months later, he's like, I'm going to join them.
00:38:42.000And I think the reality is YouTube is going to turn into an AI slot channel, guaranteed 100%.
00:38:50.000We sit here in this room with professional lights.
00:38:52.000We spent, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars building the studio in a multi million dollar building because I was like, Let's invest our time, energy, and resources into being able to do a great show where we talk about important issues.
00:39:05.000And then what happens is, Some kid goes on YouTube, he clicks a button on a few different AI sites and auto generates 40 hours of content per day.
00:40:07.000Now, podcasts can survive a little while longer because our margins are less, but I guarantee you, in three years, A show like this with this level of production will not be possible because the amount of money you will make from a show like this compared to how much it costs to produce a slop show of the same type with the progression of AI technology, you will convince no one to work 80 hours a week to make minimum wage.
00:40:31.000You will have people who are like, every day I wake up and for eight hours, I end up getting a thousand views per day and I make like $70 per day, generating 25 hours of slop content per day.
00:41:43.000Just because they're running commercials saying that doesn't mean.
00:41:46.000No, it means there's a market reaction where companies have already emerged and have been in operation for a year plus that are now advertising on cable TV to fire your employees.
00:41:55.000When I see the actual shrinking of the job market, when you see it in the numbers, then I'll go ahead and say, okay, actually, you're right.
00:42:03.000But as of right now, all the indicators are that they're not firing people because of AI.
00:43:24.000So all those jobs have disappeared, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
00:43:27.000It's people who become more efficient, they become better at making them.
00:43:30.000So we had a video game developer at this company.
00:43:34.000We didn't hire anybody after this because it didn't work out.
00:43:37.000I will never hire a video game developer again.
00:43:40.000In 12 hours, I've gotten six months of video game development done.
00:43:44.000And I actually don't even think it's fair for me to call it my own work because all I did was sit on my phone playing video games, looking over at ChatGPT periodically to make sure it was working.
00:44:23.000Now, explain I have a subscription, a monthly subscription to OpenAI, and the amount of usage that I have has not exceeded that $200 subscription.
00:44:52.000So, I mean, again, you go back to the 70s when they were making Pong, it took the team of developers, as you said, years to make that game.
00:45:11.000The person working at Taco Bell is the person who walks across the street to the pet store to buy a cat toy for his cat.
00:45:17.000When that person doesn't have a job anymore, they say, I need to get money from somewhere.
00:45:20.000So they start consolidating around what appear to be like, I think the reason we're seeing a massive explosion of desperate influencers is because there's no other way to apply being human.
00:45:31.000You say, I'm a low skilled laborer, but they've largely automated my job.
00:45:35.000I guess I can shake my ass on OnlyFans, and that'll work for a while until AI automates that too.
00:45:41.000You know, the sad thing about this whole discussion is I mean, I'll tell you right now that AI is an incredible tool when used properly.
00:45:48.000The one industry that it really hasn't taken a foot in where it should is medicine.
00:45:53.000Like it would have this huge impact on people's livelihoods, people's longevity, everything, but we don't use it.
00:46:02.000The center of job cuts are in tech software and IT services companies, encoding co pilots, AI testing, and AI ops to shrink engineering, QA support, and junior development teams.
00:46:11.000Oracle, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, Dell, and the big Indian outsourcers, TCS, Infosys, Y Pro Cognizant, have all cited AI as a reason for large 25 to 2026 cuts.
00:46:20.000Tech is also the sector where Challenger Gray and Christmas say AI is now the leading stated reason for U.S. layoff announcements.
00:46:29.000Finance, banking, and fintech, bank office processing, compliance review, junior analyst work, transaction checking, and customer support, Citigroup, Standard Chartered, PayPal, Klarna, and others have tied headcount plans to AI tools.
00:46:41.000Junior roles that used to mean pull the data and draft the first memo are the ones shrinking first.
00:46:47.000All of this was predicted two years ago.
00:46:58.000They said the first thing that's going to happen is the job for the 22 year old where they come in and they say, data entry here, draft a memo and send it out.
00:49:00.000It's much better than talking to someone from another country that barely speaks English or you can't understand or doesn't understand you.
00:49:06.000So, I mean, as far as call centers go, bring that change on.
00:49:11.000I mean, your best case scenario really is because, like, these governments in the West that are just keeping the floodgates open on immigration, one of the main arguments that they're putting forward is, well, we need to backfill the loss in population.
00:49:25.000So I kind of go back to my initial point.
00:49:26.000It's like that would be really the hope with AI is that it can allow the population to decline without putting serious pressure on the market.
00:49:33.000But then additionally, it's a good point.
00:49:34.000And Phil, you brought up too is like it also can prevent offshoring from occurring, which is also valuable for a variety of reasons.
00:50:18.000And this is the first time I can say with these AI models, the reason why I say AGI is here is because the average person is not going to be as perceptive and fast as Astra is.
00:50:47.000Last night, I put in a scheduling prompt.
00:50:51.000Every 15 minutes, do a check and keep working and said, You got it.
00:50:55.000And so from 11 p.m. at the end of the show until 9 a.m., it was coding the game that I wanted, building levels, testing, doing play tests over and over again while I slept.
00:51:06.000So, by all means, again, even if the argument is there are coders that are better than Astra, are they going to work 24 7, never take a day off, and require no money?
00:51:14.000There aren't coders that are better than Astra.
00:51:17.000There are people that are looking for a specific result, and maybe Astra won't.
00:51:22.000Know exactly what they're looking for, but there aren't coders that are better than Astra.
00:51:26.000So, to wrap it together and just to the main point, I think the reason why you see Tucker Carlson and the algebra stuff is because this market that we're in right now is being flooded with cheap, free content that consumes people's.
00:51:41.000There's only so many hours in the day for people to watch content, and with people losing jobs or not being able to get them.
00:51:47.000The important thing to understand is young people are unable to get hired.
00:51:51.000So, one of the things that it's funny, I asked Grok about this, it's not just about layoffs.
00:52:15.000Well, that's the, honestly, there are young people that that's what their hope is, right?
00:52:20.000The people that are like, we want fully automated luxury communism.
00:52:23.000Well, this is why I come in again with the optimism where it can just.
00:52:28.000Against the conservative, you know, the conservatives are have been fighting against winning here, but like it could quite literally victory could fall in their lap insofar as compression returns to single income providing for the entire household.
00:52:41.000And that kind of gives us the off ramp for women working because women working and providing an income is like decimated the society.
00:52:47.000I do think there will be some kind of UBI somehow implemented.
00:52:51.000It's either UBI, yeah, it's either UBI or incentives for the government basically ensuring that wages stay higher than they probably realistically should be.
00:52:59.000But then UBI just turn into a rise in prices though.
00:53:03.000Yes, but the problem is when you eliminate 25% of jobs in a year, you're going to have a ton of people throwing bricks and maltose if they can't get food.
00:53:14.000Well, we functionally have UBI with like unemployment and welfare broadly.
00:54:46.000But if we continue to have, if we continue to have, like, let's say Trump's out of office and a Democrat's in, they just open it up again, we're cooked.
00:54:52.000But population decline also means a decline in the quality of life.
00:54:56.000So the question is as we deport people and jobs are declining and the value of houses are going down, if less people are producing goods, there's let the prices go up for the goods that you want.
00:55:10.000To put it simply, the reason why we can buy a widescreen high def TV for $300 right now is because of the size of population.
00:55:20.000As population shrinks, you have less specialists, and that makes it harder to develop.
00:55:26.000And if you take a look at the colonial period of how long it took to go from muskets to cartridges, even.
00:55:36.000But that's why the argument is AI buttresses our standard of living.
00:55:38.000So even as the population declines, even as the job market retracts, AI is ensuring that our quality of our standard of living, et cetera, does not fall off a cliff.
00:55:47.000But the challenge then is connecting it to the market.
00:55:50.000So a person who doesn't have a job anymore.
00:55:52.000Needs a way to get money to buy things to create that trade, even between AI.
00:55:58.000So, if Elon creates Tesla Bell and it's a bunch of, actually, it's a Tesla restaurant, but let's say he makes Taco Tesla and there's a whole bunch of fully automated taco shops, who's going to be able to make money to buy from the taco shop but then have a job?
00:56:11.000So, then we got to think about this why Elon said UBI.
00:56:13.000Because there's no other, like, I don't want to say there's no other way, but the idea is how do these people who can't do any meaningful work be the customers you need to sustain this automated business?
00:56:31.000Okay, the majority of the jobs, the first jobs on the chopping block, again, are jobs that are dominated by women.
00:56:36.000So it's going to create a direct incentive to get married.
00:56:39.000It's going to create a direct incentive to get married.
00:56:41.000And then the males, who the jobs that are least likely to be automated are dominated by men.
00:56:46.000Again, that creates an insurance that you're not going to starve to death.
00:56:50.000You get married, and then a single income can provide for the family.
00:56:53.000The lower class, the people working at Taco Bell or whatever, That's where it gets a little bit more dodgy.
00:57:00.000And then that's where potentially, yeah, Jordan Peterson was talking about this 10 years ago to his credit.
00:57:04.000He was saying, What do you do with those people?
00:57:06.000I mean, as the economy gets more complex, what do they do?
00:57:10.000And that's where it's a bit more unclear.
00:57:11.000He brought up the military and people with an IQ of 85 and below can't get in the military because they can't do anything that they won't screw up, essentially.
00:57:19.000Like, if you have a, if you, there is a floor to where, or, you know, I guess maybe it's a floor.
00:57:27.000Either way, the point is if you have a person that isn't smart enough to do the basic job, what do you do with them?
00:57:33.000And those people actually tend to be the ones that are prone to violence because they understand enough about the world to kind of go out and function in it, but they don't have long term thinking and they don't have the skills.
00:58:13.000Like the country, like the nation of Tunisia may not have an average of 100, but the country itself falls apart when the average person can't eat.
00:58:23.000So, yeah, if you're talking about like a whole entire society falling apart, that's one thing.
00:58:30.000So, Tim, you're foreseeing basically AI slash robots, whatever you want to call it, taking over every job?
00:58:36.000I don't know about every single one of them.
00:58:38.000At some point in the future, for sure.
00:58:40.000Right now, I'll put it like this there's no reason for music production anymore.
00:58:44.000If you had a company that had a bunch of employees, you even had employees who were gophers.
00:58:49.000You had minimum wage interns who got coffee.
01:00:14.000Let's, uh, let's, because the message was good too.
01:00:16.000It's, it's, it's a bit doomerish, but let's, let's get back to some of the modern news.
01:00:19.000We've got this, uh, tweet from Brian Allen breaking every scheduled opening act on Ed Sheeran's Loop Tour has now withdrawn after Macklemore was dropped over his pro Palestinian remarks.
01:00:30.000Aaron Rowe, Lucas Graham, and Phineas have all pulled out while Sheeran's touring band, Bioga, has also quit.
01:01:18.000It's kind of remarkable to see how quickly it collapsed.
01:01:21.000There were a few anons that at the outset of the Iran war were saying Israel's public appearance is actually going to improve because they're going to fight alongside the U.S. and it's going to be like, we're And this together.
01:01:32.000Really freezing cold take because we're, I think it's interesting.
01:01:35.000This last week, I think, is where it's really gotten crazy because of the whole response to this Beau French tweet.
01:01:43.000And, you know, you have like guys like Ben Shapiro or various other guys who are, you know, very pro Israel.
01:01:50.000And they're coming out and they're like attacking Beau French.
01:01:53.000But then they'll also attack, like, you know.
01:01:55.000What was the, for context, what was the original Beau French tweet or what did he actually say that got people all up in arms?
01:02:03.000There was a picture from the University of Texas when they beat Ohio State, and it was a snapshot of the audience going crazy or whatever.
01:02:10.000And it was like 90% Indians in the crowd.
01:02:12.000And he was basically saying, quite rudely, but I think it's kind of Trumpian to be like, here's the issue.
01:02:18.000I'm going to deliver it in a really rude way to get it into the zeitgeist.
01:02:20.000He was saying, basically, I don't remember the specifics of the tweet, but paraphrasing, you know, look how quick the demographic change has been in Texas.
01:02:29.000And what he's getting at is something a lot of Texans are discussing quite a bit, is that the DFW suburbs specifically. Are very Indian now.
01:02:39.000And so, yeah, I guess what I was trying to get at is the reason why I think people like mainstream MAGA are starting to get really frustrated with, and I'm not using this necessarily as a pejorative, just as a descriptor here, are getting really frustrated with the more like ardent Zionist people in the movement is because they bring the knives out for, you know, guys like Mahmoud Khalil, which is like, fine, I agree, he should be deported.
01:03:01.000But then when it comes to Indian immigration, other immigrant groups, all of a sudden they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, why are you being so mean?
01:03:43.000Entity from what the United States is.
01:03:45.000But it does speak to kind of a bit of hypocrisy when Jews are saying, oh, Jews in the U.S. are saying, well, you can't exclude people based on race.
01:03:57.000And yet at the same time, these people oftentimes, if they're not dual citizens, they're at least, they have family in Israel or they go to Israel and they're very vocal about Israel needs to stay a Jewish state.
01:05:26.000I think that what we've seen, especially, it's not just what has happened with the act and not just in removing Macklemore from the lineup, but when you see what Robert Kraft did to line up all of the stadiums to censor speech in that one specific way, it's become clear that this is not just about one music artist or two music artists, but this is about.
01:05:56.000How just a handful of stadium owners and the elite can prevent an entire massive issue, in this case, the genocide in Gaza.
01:06:10.000It could be speaking out about AI, it could be speaking out about any issue that you can now just get a handful of stadium owners to ensure that an entire person's career can be jeopardized if they speak out about any issue.
01:06:54.000When we go on tour with someone, if we're a support act, we treat it like we're being invited into their home, it's their stage.
01:07:00.000We get on stage when they say, We get off stage when they say, doesn't matter if we haven't played all the songs, if we had technical difficulties and we have one more song left, our time's up, our time's up, get out of here.
01:07:49.000I can sit around all day in the nice fall weather.
01:07:51.000And I think what's interesting with fingerboards.
01:07:53.000What's interesting with this story, though, is like, again, five years ago, you would have seen certainly like conservative commentariat, but even a lot of conservative politicians going to the mat for Robert Kraft, you know, attacking Macklemore or whatever.
01:08:06.000But I think people are a lot more hesitant now.
01:08:09.000Because it's kind of viewed as like, okay, he has a take on like an ethnic blood feud on the other side of the world.
01:08:15.000It's like, has nothing to do with the United States.
01:08:18.000Out of all these hyper left wing performers that like headline these stadiums all the time, they don't get canceled.
01:08:24.000It's like, I'm far more disturbed by like what I'm hearing in a lot of rap music, and they're permitted to perform at stadiums all the time.
01:08:30.000So I'm like, that's far more threatening to me than like, again, he has a take on Pal.
01:08:52.000To that point, as far as this particular issue goes, when it comes to, you know, Macklemore being dropped, the fact that Robert Kraft got involved and was going out and it was multiple stadiums were saying, we don't want him on this.
01:09:06.000That I can see why people consider that a problem because it's not Ed Sharine that was saying, or Ed Sharon or whatever his name is, however you pronounce it, my bad.
01:09:16.000It's not him that was saying, oh, you're off the tour.
01:09:59.000We have never seen anything on this scale of cancel culture.
01:10:03.000But it's just remarkable because it's like if there were an artist and he was doing a tour and he was super pro Argentine and he was like antagonizing the United Kingdom and he was saying the Falklands should go back to Argentina or whatever, I don't think any stadium owners would be like, you know, canceling his show or whatever.
01:10:20.000But it's like, but when it pertains to this issue, all of a sudden now let's, you know, let's throw this guy off the tour.
01:10:26.000Like I'd stoop AOC retarded takes, et cetera.
01:11:03.000I'm just saying, like, from, you know, and back to the free speech issue, it's, it's, it's, It's so obviously blatantly not a free speech issue.
01:11:09.000And it's, it's, um, people have this fantasy that, you know, you, that you can have free speech at work, right?
01:11:41.000And I think people need to understand that that's not something that you have free speech when you're in your own house and when you're on whatever, but not when you're at work.
01:11:49.000A couple years back, we were on tour with Megadeth, and I was wearing a shirt that said anti communist, right?
01:11:54.000And generally, I'm familiar with the headliner, Megadeth's politics, or at least with Dave's politics.
01:12:02.000And I didn't think it would be an issue, and it wasn't.
01:12:04.000But had Dave seen me and said, hey, you know, I don't think you should be wearing that, I'd have taken it off and been like, okay, my bad.
01:12:12.000You know, just okay, this is your show.
01:12:19.000I'm not going to do things that step on his toes.
01:12:21.000I'm not going to do things from stage that he doesn't like.
01:12:24.000Now, there is an argument that, like, look, if you are going to go on tour with Rage Against the Machine, you know what you're getting into.
01:12:31.000If you're going to make an offer to Rage Against the Machine to be on your show, you know what you're getting.
01:12:50.000But a guy like Macklemore as a pop star, right?
01:12:53.000Like, he's not particularly political in his music.
01:12:57.000He's saying the things that he's saying largely, not because he's, and I can't speak for him personally, but I imagine he's not super political in general.
01:13:07.000It's just that this is the issue of the day, just like when Black Lives Matter was the issue of the day.
01:13:34.000I mean, they've hosted Taylor Swift, Green Day, which is like one of the most leftist big artists that can sell the stadium left, Jay Z. Why are they allowed to perform?
01:13:57.000I'm not arguing about his right to do it, but again, if we're arguing about the cultural issue at play here, my question is why is there an Israel loyalty test to perform at a stadium now?
01:14:10.000Again, right now it doesn't affect us as right wingers because it's Macklemore, but eventually that can affect us.
01:14:15.000No, but the issue is if somebody said they wanted to come on Tim Cast IRL, and then I was like, yeah, for sure.
01:14:22.000We talk daily news and go, no, no, I want to do like five minutes just talking about Palestine.
01:14:26.000And I, I, I, so we've had people reach out and they'll be like, Hey, I really want to talk about this thing.
01:14:30.000And I go, Well, it's a topical news show.
01:14:32.000Like, I don't care what you talk about, but if the news of the day is not what you're talking about, that's probably better suited for the culture war or like, you know, now we have the Tim Pool show.
01:14:41.000And if someone was like, No, I, I, I want you to give me five minutes so I can just go on and talk about Palestinian genocide, I'd be like, No.
01:14:47.000No, but what I'm, what I'm saying here is it's an issue that's like has nothing to do with Americans.
01:14:52.000So that's why it's stupid to have a loyalty test over that.
01:14:55.000But I'm saying it's not a loyalty test.
01:14:58.000It is a promoter being like, dude, don't do protests at my venue.
01:15:03.000No, but the problem that he has with Macklemore is his, again, which it's whatever, it's his take, but it is his stance on this very specific issue.
01:15:13.000My point is if Macklemore said he wanted to preach the Klan, I wouldn't call it an anti Klan loyalty test.
01:15:19.000I'd say he doesn't want the politics at his venue.
01:15:22.000No, but I don't think Macklemore is bringing these, he's not going up there on the stump to talk about Palestine.
01:15:28.000No, but apparently that's what he did.
01:15:30.000He had a big sign on the stage and he was talking about it.
01:15:32.000Yeah, it was like his whole performance.
01:15:33.000Yeah, but what I'm saying is it's an issue that has nothing to do with the United States.
01:15:36.000Again, like if they had a stance on the British, no one would care.
01:15:41.000My point is a business promoter who's like, hey, that's bad for business, don't do it.
01:16:04.000Most of them are probably adversarial at this point.
01:16:06.000And Kraft and the people around him and his donors and the guys who are buying sponsor slots and funding these purchases probably are older and support Israel.
01:16:14.000And why take the risk as the business owner?
01:16:16.000But again, I certainly agree young people don't like it.
01:19:08.000I'm appalled by the conflict between Israel and Palestine, the suffering and pain caused.
01:19:12.000McElmore asked to join my tour last year.
01:19:14.000I agreed because I respect him as an artist.
01:19:16.000As with all my support acts, I agree that they play a set list of their choosing.
01:19:20.000After Macklemore's performances at my New Jersey shows, venues on my upcoming tour dates communicated that they would pull the shows if he was still supporting.
01:21:09.000According to the story that I read in the statement of Fred Sheeran, Multiple venues got mad that he had the big pro Palestine set genocide stuff.
01:21:16.000He was speaking about it, he was putting apart.
01:21:18.000The promoter said, We're booting him because of all of these different venues.
01:22:01.000Yeah, but yeah, and Macklemore, like, to the utmost degree.
01:22:05.000But I still hold the point, which is I think it's a stupid test to have when people should be getting thrown off tours for like left wing activism.
01:22:14.000Tours for, like, again, a geopolitical situation.
01:22:16.000Even if it has this left wing flavor, there's right wingers that have sort of contrarian takes on Israel Palestine as well.
01:22:22.000But I guess why can't performing artists just perform?
01:22:27.000I look, but again, but Tate made the point right now, especially with the ability to produce top level Hollywood productions in 10 seconds.
01:22:38.000Yep, Macklemore is not going to sell you music.
01:23:19.000I'm not so worried about what his take is on Israel and Palestine.
01:23:22.000I can roll my eyes at it or I can agree.
01:23:24.000Whatever your take is, it's not really my concern.
01:23:27.000And so that's why what I'm just saying is we reserve the right as conservatives to look at that and say, well, it's kind of a stupid reason to boot someone over the tour when people are doing far worse on a daily basis and zero pushback from these venues.
01:24:14.000So instead of telling you that Kash Patel said he didn't want to disqualify a victim of sex trafficking who had been forced to engage in this, it had been a disqualifying element.
01:24:28.000For the FBI before, he said victims should not be barred from getting a job.
01:24:33.000So, the Rolling Stone and liberals have inverted the headline as if to imply that Kash Patel is okay with people banging animals.
01:25:13.000No, I could just tell you what I'm reading to you is you dropped automatic disqualification for applicants who have been engaged in bestiality, not victims of bestiality, applicants who have engaged.
01:25:26.000Applicants who have engaged in bestiality means they were victims of bestiality because they were forced to do so.
01:25:33.000And at this FBI, we are not going to criminalize and prevent victims from serving the United States of America and the premier law enforcement agency in the world.
01:25:58.000If you were to ask me, I would just be like, I really find it hard to believe that Kash Patel wants people who bang animals to get jobs at the FBI.
01:26:08.000If you said you have two choices, there are people who are sex trafficked and forced to do these things because people film these videos and they sell them.
01:26:15.000These people who have escaped this want to get jobs at the FBI.
01:26:22.000If the alternative is Cash just wants people who bang animals to get jobs, I'd be like, I'm going to have to go with the first one, makes more sense.
01:26:28.000Like, why would Cash just come out and be like, yeah, if you bang dogs, you can get a job at the FBI?
01:30:26.000And all these people, they go on and they're hoping that they can make a mark enough where they can start some kind of, like you were talking about earlier, some kind of influencer.
01:30:34.000They've got to get a podcast or something.
01:30:37.000Just make enough of an impact with people get a big clip or whatever.
01:30:41.000So he's, he's whether he intends to or not, which he likely does intend to, he's pulling in the worst of the worst because they're like, oh, maybe I can make something out of this, you know.
01:30:53.000But the really scary part about all this is, you know, the mainstream media, take the New York Times for example, right?
01:31:04.000They just take something and they run with it as factual.
01:31:08.000So, like, The pandemic is a great example.
01:31:10.000When people would say something crazy, it just became fact and it just became dogma that that was reality when in fact it wasn't true.
01:31:18.000Yeah, to your point earlier, like it doesn't matter the truth of this.
01:31:22.000People are going to see the headline and they're going to make accusations and they're going to use it in their online debates to own the cons or whatever.
01:31:31.000They're going to say, oh, you guys see, you guys are the real degenerates.
01:31:34.000Never mind me and my polycule and what have you.
01:31:38.000They're going to say, you guys are the real degenerates.
01:31:40.000You guys are doing this and et cetera.
01:31:42.000The substance of any accusation rarely matters.
01:31:46.000So, a sensational headline is all that people need.
01:31:49.000They'll go ahead and link that on their, you know, when they're on Twitter, on Blue Sky, when they're trying to, again, own the cons.
01:31:55.000They're going to be like, you guys did this.
01:31:56.000And then any kind of attempt to explain what actually happened.
01:33:22.000And then they'll come with a hot take and post it up.
01:33:25.000And then inevitably, some person that disagrees is going to jump in.
01:33:29.000And then they've got their banter back and forth.
01:33:31.000You know, they get their dopamine hit because they got to that's right and own the cons, you know.
01:33:36.000But the other problem downstream, there's real side effects to this kind of stuff, yeah.
01:33:39.000Yeah, Trump's been tried to be assassinated or attempted four times, right?
01:33:43.000Because people make him out to be he says these horrible things, you know.
01:33:46.000There are good people on both sides, that's not what he said, right?
01:33:48.000That's not what he said, but they put it out there, people believe it, and now it's okay to assassinate him.
01:33:54.000Of course, it's not okay to assassinate, but that's what people think because these people have made it so awful that it's okay to treat people back.
01:34:02.000We were talking about this, uh, just last night.
01:34:10.000The left has made it acceptable to talk about political violence.
01:34:14.000If you look at polls, people on the left essentially generally agree that under extreme circumstances, which we live in extreme circumstances now, it's acceptable to engage in political violence, that you have to defend your community.
01:34:31.000These phrases that are basically catchphrases, they use these as justification to act in completely antisocial ways.
01:34:39.000And as long as the The government overall, whether it be a moderate Democrat or an actual conservative, as long as they don't do something about the extremists, the extremists will continue to gain ground and continue to get the accolades that they want.
01:34:56.000Whether you're talking about the people that murdered Charlie Kirk or Luigi Mangione or any number of other people that have engaged in political violence in the past 10 years that have largely been on the left, like the people in positions of power, people in positions of authority, Democrats, they're not.
01:35:53.000I mean, look, to be honest with you, I think that, you know, if Democrats get back into power, there's going to be, you know, significant backlash against people on the right.
01:36:11.000They're going to try and break up SpaceX, try and break up Tesla, try and do everything they can to hinder his business.
01:36:17.000They're going to go after all kinds of people on the right, but they're going to go after people that are just normal people.
01:36:22.000Because as long as you're a person that's in the public eye, normal people feel like there is a chasm between people they see on podcasts and people they see in Washington and stuff.
01:36:32.000When they go and they get the guy down the street that was posting and saying that he liked Trump, when they go ahead and come up with a reason to go after him, then normal people are like, oh, they can go after me too.
01:37:05.000And it's more effective to go after normal people again because the average person thinks, well, they're gonna go after the big names, blah blah blah.
01:37:13.000I'm just a normal person living my life, you know, I'll say stuff on Facebook or whatever, but you know, whatever they're not gonna come after me.
01:37:21.000That's the person that actually has the most value for them to go after because that's what will get the average people in line, make them afraid to vote for conservatives.
01:37:29.000I want to pull the story from Politico.
01:37:30.000Massey launches a push to impeach Hegseth.
01:37:34.000The articles are for high crimes and misdemeanors, including the war in Iran, the Trump administration's boat strikes in the Caribbean, and Hegseth's alleged suppression of free speech in his fight with Democrats over their calls for troops to refuse illegal orders.
01:38:06.000I mean, look, when you've got, with all due respect to Massey, but when you've got Massey and other elements of the right who have joined the left, not on every single issue, but at least on a handful, and now you've got the entirety of the left and elements of the right have unified against the only resistance to communism, what happens next?
01:38:42.000Well, I mean, it's tough because it's like, look, there's one thing about being displeased with the Iran war, but there's another thing about like voting for the Democrats to express your disapproval.
01:38:54.000I'm just, I'm not so sure that's going to work, especially because like if the GOP gets hammered in the election, the party elite aren't going to say, hmm, yeah, we must not have been right wing enough.
01:39:04.000They're going to say, oh, we need to go back.
01:39:06.000We were winning elections consistently, which was like Bush style politics.
01:39:10.000That's going to be the takeaway for the GOP.
01:39:11.000So even if we just steelman everything, Massey Sanger, which I don't think we should do, but let's just steelman it for the hypothetical here, we're not going to get the desired outcome by siding with the left here whatsoever.
01:39:48.000I think they would learn their lesson already, but I guess they, yeah.
01:39:52.000That was the argument, or that's an argument that I made is the Republicans basically got the most white bred, boring, inoffensive conservative they could possibly come up with in Mitt Romney.
01:40:38.000As much sliming of the man as they possibly could.
01:40:41.000And everyone on the conservative side knew that obviously he wasn't what the left portrayed him to be.
01:40:46.000And so the response to that was Donald Trump.
01:40:50.000They were like, you're going to call us all the names.
01:40:53.000You're going to say all these terrible things.
01:40:55.000We want to send someone in that doesn't care.
01:40:58.000Donald Trump basically offended everybody within the first six weeks of his campaign, and he never lost any support because of it.
01:41:07.000And it's largely because the left has abused the right, rhetorically abused the right, or had rhetorically abused the right for so long that people on the right were just like, whatever, they're going to say what they're going to say.
01:41:24.000A considerable portion of the right that say, I don't care what you call me.
01:41:28.000I'm going to vote for the things that I want.
01:41:30.000I'm going to, you know, I'm going to support the candidates that seem to look like they're going to, you know, endorse policies or push policies that actually benefit me that I want.
01:41:42.000And the left is going to continue to say, you know, you're all racist, you're terrible, et cetera.
01:41:49.000And that's part of the reason why I think that there's things have gone kinetic so much.
01:41:52.000There is so much violence from the left now.
01:41:55.000Because I just think realms are burning, as you said it.
01:41:59.000You know, it's like that story we were talking about on the show where the, who was it, the emperor of the Byzantine, the Byzantine emperor shows up and says, You serve me now.
01:43:07.000In reference to Rome, the war as the dying vestige of an empire.
01:43:12.000Like Trump going to war with Iran and trying to enforce the liberal economic order is the death of the empire.
01:43:20.000I think the more scary sort of outlook here is that America retains its hegemony, its global hegemony, but the America as we understand it ceases to exist.
01:43:29.000And I think that's the most likely outcome where we still see another thousand years of American hegemony, but it is a completely unrecognizable America.
01:45:37.000I mean, because people are like, he should.
01:45:39.000I don't think it's a matter of if he wants to or not.
01:45:41.000I just think, like, he just quite literally can't because the United States is so rigid that it makes it impossible for, even if he, like, let's just truly say he is this sort of Napoleonic figure.
01:45:51.000I think it's kind of impossible for him to truly reshape the United States in his image because.
01:45:55.000It is designed to prevent that very thing from occurring.
01:45:57.000I mean, that's why he keeps running up against walls all the time.
01:45:59.000Like, he can't even get Haitians out of the country.
01:46:28.000It's the primary, the 2028 Democrat primary is the referendum on the DSA.
01:46:34.000That's quite literally what it's going to be.
01:46:35.000There's going to be a DSA candidate and there's going to be an establishment candidate.
01:46:39.000The only exception here, which looks like this might be happening, is the field's getting cleared for Kamala again, which I think keeps both sides pretty happy, which would be fascinating.
01:46:53.000And with the way things are going, and with the way things are going, I wouldn't just completely rest on our laurels, be like, well, we already smashed Kamala once.
01:47:00.000Well, Not figuratively, smashed Kamala once.
01:47:20.000Nevertheless, if Iran really does drag two, three, four years, I mean, you shouldn't just be resting on your lore.
01:47:27.0002028 would be a dogfight, even with Kamala on the ticket, especially if the GOP primary is very divisive, which it could be, depending on what kind of.
01:47:43.000What is the future that they see based on their actions?
01:47:46.000Because I think one could argue that when you're fighting to save a way of life, a culture, a country, you acknowledge some things will be not good.
01:47:58.000I was asked this when I was on Jubilee, and the guy said, You know, you complain about the authoritarian things Biden did, but you accept the authoritarian things that Trump did.
01:48:50.000I think if you like, if you like reduce this entire debate down to who controls the spigot of immigration, that's primarily what's at stake here.
01:48:58.000And okay, you can come out and you can be like, Trump is not conducting enough deportations.
01:50:23.000Let's grab your rumble rants and super chats.
01:50:26.000Evan for US says, What if the real conspiracy with everything to do with the disappointment with Trump, his administration, has been set with just enough negative pressure, the DSA is forced to rise to clash with Dems?
01:50:39.000Do you mean like the real conspiracy is that they're fizzling out Trump so the Democrats can be up against the DSA and that's the new two party system?
01:51:32.000If you own shares in Tesla, you'll be all right.
01:51:35.000Elon Musk was, again, he was also this weekend on the All In podcast and he was flouting the likelihood of, or he was alluding to the likelihood of SpaceX.
01:51:48.000He was talking about the likelihood of SpaceX merging with Tesla.
01:51:53.000So if you have SpaceX or Tesla stock, you're going to have both.
01:52:50.000You know, as an ER doc, I always say, like, job can be really stressful and really hard.
01:52:54.000But, like, I always look at the paramedics and the EMTs, and I'm like, God bless you guys because they have to go into people's homes.
01:52:59.000Yeah, never know what you're walking into.
01:53:01.000I mean, they tell cockroaches everywhere, like buildings collapsing, carrying 400 people, 400 pound people down the stairs, all kinds of things.
01:53:08.000And then the family dynamics and stuff.
01:53:10.000I mean, it's just their job is really, really hard.
01:54:05.000It's more of a mathematical algorithm where they're like certain numbers in certain positions to make people smile.
01:54:11.000But it is really funny because we've had guests try to Shazam the songs we play.
01:54:15.000Like, I'll be playing music before the show.
01:54:17.000I do, you know, in case anyone wants to know why, it's because there will be four conversations happening while we're doing pre production and everyone's talking to each other and it's a cacophony, so I'll just blast music and it stops.
01:56:57.000Theophan says Tim, for the love of God, please just release a video tomorrow stating your opinions about AI.
01:57:02.000It doesn't need to occupy every single episode.
01:57:05.000I mean, I guess a news show that's talking about.
01:57:08.000The big story, which is Trump's statement on AI, Anthropic's statement on AI, the whistleblower that got 150 million views, and the latest developments in the tech that has been released.
01:59:21.000Probably some countries will be, though.
01:59:22.000I think Israel is one that probably will be just because they have a good reason to have a lot of kids.
01:59:29.000A few other countries, I imagine, will probably stay above replacement for external factors.
01:59:35.000But yeah, barring some serious shift in the way that women's role in society, a shift in the way that women participate in society, can't imagine that rebounding anytime soon.
01:59:53.000But this means for our lifetimes, we are going to see a massive decline in quality of life.
02:00:02.000Yeah, I think the ultimate answer to that question lies in what is AI's ceiling?
02:00:08.000I mean, that's ultimately what the question is.
02:00:10.000If AI truly has limitless potential, then the standard of living doesn't decline, it just evolves or changes into something completely different.
02:00:19.000But if AI truly is, like we're kind of seeing the ceiling, which is what a lot of people are saying, then.
02:05:38.000And since Charlie's been dead, it's almost like I don't know, man.
02:05:42.000The war's been bad, but I hate to get all woo woo, but I think Cerno is on to something where I think we all just collectively have a bit of PTSD following Kirk.
02:07:20.000Well, I think Tucker is fascinating to watch.
02:07:23.000I think he's completely separate from everybody else that you would maybe consider like this new dissident sphere because Tucker is not just some random, you know, it's not like, no, but it's not like Jesse Waters where he's like known for being the Fox News guy.
02:08:22.000But if you look at his position on America's foreign policy and where we ought to recalibrate, what our posture should be, nothing he's saying is really that threatening to specifically the Intel apparatus.
02:08:36.000I mean, at the crux of what he's saying is, and this is what Tucker's stance is, is a Netanyahu centric foreign policy is damaging to America's posture against China.
02:08:48.000Therefore, We should pivot away from Israel, basically just cast into the wolves and focus on our relationship with the Gulf states, which explains why he's glazing Muslims so hard, is because he's trying to appeal to these Gulf states, create that belt.
02:09:04.000This is what Joe Kent's sort of foreign policy stance was.
02:09:07.000This is what all the China hawks' foreign policy stance is.
02:09:09.000I think Tucker's just at its core a China hawk.
02:09:11.000People were asking why he removed some Christian thing he wore.
02:11:50.000I wonder if a large portion of viewership decline is because young guys, particularly who are the principal consumers of news content, can just go on a website and just spam blast any and everything nonstop.
02:12:04.000I personally think, one, it's something you talk about.
02:12:06.000There's just less young people than there was before.
02:12:12.000Secondarily, again, this is purely anecdotal.
02:12:17.000I feel like people are just returning back to streaming services for their media intake.
02:12:21.000That's true because we did talk about this, but the increase we see for these streaming services, which again, we put it on the show a few years ago, is still not adding up.
02:12:32.000No, but we see an increase here, but the decline overall is still greater.
02:12:36.000No, I think they're measuring new subscriptions.
02:12:40.000I think people are spending more time because everyone already had a Netflix.
02:12:43.000Metrics across the board are not adding up that way.
02:12:46.000Yes, we can see an increase in watch time and subscriptions for subscription services, but it's like a 2% gain compared to a 17% decline across the board for all media.
02:12:57.000And so I've been asked, like, maybe, I hate to say it, old people are just dying.
02:13:08.000This is an inevitability when you have a combination of maximum saturation through AI and the boomer mortality shelf with no replacement generation.
02:13:16.000I mean, also, could it be as simple as media across every platform was basically juicing their stats and now people are catching on?
02:13:37.000I wonder this too because the comments per hour, like basically comments per minute, seem to be relatively the same no matter what our viewership is.
02:13:46.000The amount of interactions I get in the street seem to be the same.
02:13:49.000It could also just be that all the numbers were completely fake and propped up by USAID or USAID affiliated networks that were trying to make things look popular.
02:13:58.000Also, I imagine short form has probably absorbed a lot of those eyeballs that have moved away from measurable media.
02:14:37.000It's like with saturation, you've got more content producers, which gives you slightly a slight growth, but the math of it is people are not watching for some reason.
02:14:54.000Maybe, like, let's say you have a million people, and you're like, we need to get these people to watch more content, so we're going to produce more content, more short form.
02:15:01.000Next year, your views are up five percent, and you go, Great, we should expect another five percent as the next generation comes in.
02:15:07.000The next year, five percent more people, and your viewership is up one percent, and you're like, Whoa, we've got more people and more content, so we did see growth, but it's much less than when we didn't have the more people.
02:15:18.000Like, the math doesn't add up for the rate it's supposed to be growing, yeah.
02:15:21.000So, it could just be, I think it's fairly obvious.
02:15:26.000There's probably a bunch of factors in one boomers are dying.
02:15:31.000Gen Alpha is now entering the age where they're going to be consuming content and they're not replacing those that are leaving.
02:15:36.000So, on the YouTube subreddit in November of last year, there was a panic because YouTube reported a general 25% decline in all viewership across the board of the platform massive.
02:15:50.000And all these creators were spam blasting, Reddit being like, what the fuck is happening?
02:16:04.000These trends have continued into this year.
02:16:07.000Yeah, I remember I read an article about this too, and they're talking about how over the last two to three years, it's basically become industry standard for advertisers to use like point of sale measurements or even click through rates versus just, oh, you get a million viewers, here's your rate.
02:16:22.000Now it's, okay, how many people did the last advertiser actually pull?
02:16:26.000And so a lot of advertisers are now not even really that concerned with views or about click through.
02:16:30.000So then YouTube has no incentive to just views.
02:17:56.000So, they write a couple hundred million dollar check, however much it was, to NASCAR, purely for prestige purposes, where I don't think companies really care about that anymore.
02:18:21.000Yeah, and it's like purely a prestige thing.
02:18:24.000When we do a contract with a Tennessee company that pays $100,000 a week, the media acted like we were demons who were stealing from the baby's cradle.
02:18:34.000And meanwhile, at the exact same time, Call Her Daddy was getting $600,000, I think, $80,000 per week.
02:19:16.000These companies that bought these podcasts can't make money off them.
02:19:20.000So, in our world where like real people have to work for money, you go to a company and they say, we can't do a deal with you unless you can generate revenue.
02:19:28.000Meanwhile, there are other podcasts where they're like, we'll give you money for nothing.
02:20:33.000Implemented their own maid program on September 12th.
02:20:41.000And the Carmelite sisters for the aged and infirm have had to sue the state because this new act would require their hospice ministry to assist in suicide.
02:20:59.000In Massachusetts, a school indoctrinated a teenage girl.
02:21:07.000Into trans ideologies without the parents' consent or knowledge, then had the girl taken from her parents by CPS because it was deemed an unsafe household since, as Catholics, they would not call her a boy.
02:21:26.000My question is how are we to the point where these explicit ideologies can be forced upon us and our religious liberties?
02:21:44.000I mean, you know, the gay baker is the most infamous case where, you know, you're looking at ideology and then your arm gets twisted if you don't sort of succumb to it.
02:21:53.000You know, like religious objections is, in the eye of blue states, just not a valid rebuttal to, you know, behavior that would be compulsory or a transaction to be compulsory.
02:22:04.000So, yeah, they're going to the Carmelite sisters and they're saying, hey, you want to keep that contract?
02:22:07.000Well, you need to start, you know, executing people.
02:22:27.000Yeah, and here we are where, you know, that looks tame compared to, yeah, Carmelite scissors having to go in and snuff out old people or sick people.
02:22:44.000The euthanasia is an interesting thing, too, because it's like there's not really a limiting principle on it, especially, you know, the United States has some insulation because we don't have universal health care.
02:22:52.000But in places like Canada, where they're just looking at a spreadsheet and they're saying, this is too expensive to insure you, they just kill you.
02:22:58.000I'm laughing at it because it's so absurd.
02:23:01.000But the United States has a bit of insulation where I think that there's not as much.
02:23:06.000I guess insurance companies could weigh in, but the terrifying thing is that euthanasia is going to lead to a lot of death in the United States as it expands.
02:23:30.000The religious liberty fight continues to rage on.
02:23:35.000I mean, it comes down to it's pretty partisan.
02:23:37.000I mean, the red states seem to be perfectly happy kind of letting religious objections hold, and blue states only like religious objections when they agree with them.
02:23:46.000For example, all the churches pulling out of.
02:23:50.000The immigration contracts when Trump said, actually, you're going to have to take in these white South Africans.
02:23:54.000I think that's a good example of that, where religious objections are great when they agree with the left.
02:24:59.000So if anyone would like to help, you can donate at runsignup.com.
02:25:07.000Shane H. Wilder, St. Albert, and his saint spelled as the abbreviation ST. If you don't do it for the charity, then donate it to make me look like a complete dumbass in public.
02:25:48.000So, anyway, my question is for the good doctor.
02:25:53.000Dr. Elfenbeam, now that we have seen proof of life on Senator Mitch McConnell, what course of treatment would you prescribe going forward so that he can have the best quality of life he can have?
02:26:09.000Uh, given his condition, you know, it's.
02:26:13.000I don't think I saw the video of him today.
02:26:14.000He looked like a muppet, his head was just sort of like didn't move, didn't it?
02:26:26.000I they said he was a fall, but yeah, but like, it doesn't look like he had a stroke video where he was like on the floor, and that's why they wouldn't play a video of him because he was going to be like, Yeah, you know, yeah, I totally agree with you.
02:26:37.000You know, I mean, I think the guy needs to retire 100 years ago.
02:29:57.000Like, our concurrent viewership on YouTube is the lowest ever been.
02:30:02.000Technically, the combined concurrent viewership today was like 22k, but that's because Rumble hasn't changed.
02:30:08.000So, I wonder if YouTube has just been juicing the numbers for a long time.
02:30:12.000Could be, and now like they announced this change in viewership to increase everyone's viewership, but it's still going down for everybody.
02:30:18.000People are tired of the censorship, too.
02:30:21.000But it's just every subject matter, you know?
02:30:38.000I know it's been consistent as a topic lately.
02:30:43.000So forgive me if I've missed this part of the conversation, but last week, I believe, there's a discussion going on about having a judge be an AI or the jury being an AI or just one person in the jury being an AI.
02:31:07.000If, you know, Tim, you kind of described it as, you know, the AI will always figure out how to convince you one way that they want you to be convinced.
02:31:17.000So why not offer the attorneys to be AI, you know, at the discretion of the defense or the plaintiffs or whatever?
02:31:26.000And that way they would have to make the most compelling argument based off of the facts from the case.
02:31:32.000And then the same rules would still apply, you know, the judge would.
02:31:36.000Give instructions to the jurors, like everything else would still be human based.
02:31:40.000I think an AI on its own will have a lower rate of innocent incarceration than a jury.
02:31:47.000And I think that with Neuralink, once we get to ASI and it can brute force, so here's the issue everyone's brain is different.
02:31:56.000So if we want to implant Neuralink, the challenge is with a computer, we can be like, we know exactly where the wires are and where they go.
02:32:04.000With a brain, it's like these are all built from scratch and we can't map the brain.
02:32:09.000But an ASI could effectively brute force the formatting, it could scan your brain so quickly, it would be able to map out where certain things happen and how to read right to your brain.
02:32:19.000With that being said, we already do have read technology for the human brain.
02:32:22.000This is Neuralink tech from 10 years ago.
02:32:25.000So, with the AI judge and no jury ever, I'll put it this way.
02:32:30.000If I was accused of a crime and I was innocent, and they said, Would you like a jury trial, a bench trial, or an AI that will scan your brain?
02:34:14.000Well, I mean, even if there was an AI attorney for both the prosecution and the defense, and they both had to fight over the facts to convince the jury one way or another, they would still do that.
02:34:27.000But that's the nightmare dystopia scenario.
02:34:30.000Where the AI can know you're innocent and not care and try to punish you.
02:34:36.000The utopian scenario is that the cop who engages in a malicious arrest and lies, the cop comes in and the criminal comes in and it goes, brain scan complete.
02:35:51.000I mean, look, I like the idea of, you know, if there is a crime without a victim, I don't think that the government should come down really hard on people for that.
02:36:04.000Process crimes, you know, the government just says you can't do this, and so, you know, you've broken the law, but you haven't hurt anyone.
02:36:13.000You know, I like that idea personally.
02:36:14.000I don't know that I like the idea of a brain scan to find out about it.
02:36:18.000The question is the criminal justice system needs to stop criminals from hurting other people.
02:36:25.000So, there's an interesting question about pre crime from Minority Report where they arrest a guy and they're like, but I haven't done anything like you were going to.
02:36:34.000Well, if you can stop the crime from happening, do you need to arrest the guy?
02:36:37.000If an AI can predict your behavior and they say, Phil's going to murder someone today, if we give him a coupon for a free slice of pizza, that murder won't happen.
02:36:48.000So they show up, they say, Oh, you're walking down the street, and Robert goes, Mr. Lamonti, we'd like to present you with this.
02:37:01.000They've literally just averted that crime from taking place.
02:37:05.000Of course, and they can predict every move you ever do, and they're controlling everything about you, and you have no free will anymore, and you don't even realize it.
02:37:11.000Yeah, like I said, I don't know the pre, I think the pre crime presents too many problems, you know?
02:42:05.000Actually, I say this Brian is better when you're hanging out with him.
02:42:09.000I can't stand him on Twitter, but if he came back, I'd be nice.
02:42:12.000You know, when he comes back to the show, I was nice.
02:42:14.000I was at a party with a bunch of Mike Madison was there.
02:42:19.000He's a big famous pro Trump poker guy.
02:42:22.000And and Brian's there too because they're all like they're all friends with him too.
02:42:26.000And uh, he just looks at me because Brian's going off about Trump and he's just doing his nasty Trump thing.
02:42:32.000Yeah, Trump's a corrupt piece of cheating on his what.
02:42:36.000And Mike looks at me, he goes, How do you hang out with this guy?
02:42:39.000And I said, Hey, look, look, you and I are in the same boat, like this is annoying, but like when we're talking poker and regular you know life stuff, it's actually really funny.
02:42:48.000And Brian's standing right there and he's like, Yeah, no, you gotta get it.