Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - ANOTHER Witness Implicates Alec Baldwin In CRIMINAL Shooting w-Cernovich & Malice

00:00:00.000 All right, so we don't have a verdict yet in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, but today was

00:00:21.000 still pretty crazy because it turns out the prosecution provided manipulated evidence

00:00:27.000 Now they argue, oh no, it was an accident, we didn't realize, and it's the defense's fault for not having iPhones.

00:00:31.000 Bah! 0.97

00:00:33.000 Basically what happened is the prosecution had high-res video and gave the defense low-res video, which is worse than just withholding evidence.

00:00:40.000 But we're still waiting.

00:00:41.000 The jury will come back.

00:00:42.000 I guess the judge, this is kind of crazy, the judge said he's not going to make a decision on a mistrial with prejudice, but he told the prosecutors, I warned you there would be a reckoning on that video.

00:00:55.000 But we're gonna wait to see what the jury comes back with in the terms of their verdict.

00:00:58.000 The judge very well may just let Rittenhouse off because of a mistrial with prejudice that was filed.

00:01:03.000 We'll see.

00:01:04.000 So we'll talk about all of that too, but we got big news!

00:01:06.000 I was right!

00:01:08.000 I said I was right!

00:01:09.000 Y'all told me I was crazy!

00:01:11.000 See, when it came to Alec Baldwin and the shooting on set, I said, why are we assuming it's an accident?

00:01:19.000 Well, guess what?

00:01:20.000 The script supervisor, the person who knows what's supposed to go down, has filed a lawsuit against Alec Baldwin saying he knew he was improperly handed the gun, he knew he shouldn't have trusted the AD said, and he wasn't supposed to aim it, cock the hammer, or pull the trigger.

00:01:39.000 So why did he do it?

00:01:40.000 She said he played Russian roulette on set.

00:01:43.000 Sounds like what she's saying is he was screwing around, pointed it.

00:01:47.000 Now there's a question of whether or not you can argue it was an intentional act to point the gun and pull the trigger.

00:01:52.000 And how is it even manslaughter when you point a gun at someone?

00:01:55.000 So we'll talk about all that.

00:01:56.000 Plus, we got big news.

00:01:57.000 The VAX mandate has been suspended.

00:01:59.000 A big victory.

00:02:01.000 We've won the battle, but not the war.

00:02:03.000 So we got a lot to get into.

00:02:04.000 And we're hanging out with, of course, Michael Malice and Mike Cernovich.

00:02:08.000 Yeah.

00:02:09.000 It's all right.

00:02:09.000 Well, you can't, you gotta say words because the podcast people can't see you.

00:02:12.000 No, I don't like to acknowledge them.

00:02:14.000 Wow, okay.

00:02:16.000 Thanks, Michael.

00:02:18.000 Please do not speak to me directly.

00:02:19.000 Okay.

00:02:20.000 Well, Mike, you, Cernovich, we'll say, we'll say, we'll go by last names.

00:02:23.000 I'm usually pretty quiet.

00:02:26.000 You want to introduce yourself?

00:02:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:29.000 Mike Cernovich.

00:02:30.000 I'm here visiting from Great Overlap here in the mobile studio of Temcast.

00:02:36.000 I always introduce myself as an entity who exists because I don't really have a hook, right?

00:02:42.000 I used to have like a hook.

00:02:43.000 Here's what I do, here's what I do now.

00:02:46.000 And I've been semi-retired for a couple of years, so all I just say is that I'm alive, existing,

00:02:51.000 doing whatever, but there's no thing.

00:02:53.000 Like, here's a thing, he's a podcaster, he's a filmmaker.

00:02:56.000 You're a lawyer though, right?

00:02:57.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm a lawyer, filmmaker, author.

00:03:00.000 You tweet a lot.

00:03:01.000 You're the mindset.

00:03:02.000 You're the OG gorilla, it's not Alex.

00:03:04.000 That's true.

00:03:05.000 You're the first gorilla.

00:03:06.000 Well, I pioneered the whole mindset genre for men.

00:03:10.000 So my mindset book was the first of that genre.

00:03:13.000 So it's always funny when people, they're like, oh, you're trying to pretend that you're like Jordan

00:03:18.000 Peterson and I was like, dude, I was before him,

00:03:21.000 like well before him, so whatever.

00:03:24.000 It doesn't mean he's not good or bad, but it's weird because they'll, people,

00:03:27.000 like I've found that they find you at a point in time and you never existed before that point.

00:03:34.000 You know what it's like when you hear a cover song and think it's the original because you heard it first?

00:03:38.000 That's actually a really interesting thing because I was just playing, I was jamming outside and I was playing The Man Who Sold the World.

00:03:43.000 Oh, Bowie.

00:03:43.000 And there's a funny song, a funny story Bowie had where he said he played The Man Who Sold the World on set and two teenage girls were like, that was so cool how you covered Nirvana.

00:03:52.000 To Bowie!

00:03:54.000 Avril Lavigne didn't even know who he was.

00:03:57.000 Wow, wow.

00:03:58.000 The greatest musician of all time.

00:03:59.000 Cernovich, I'm glad you're here, actually.

00:04:01.000 You're a lawyer, so you're gonna have way more understanding of a lot of this legal stuff with Alec Baldwin and with the Rittenhouse stuff, so I'm excited you're here.

00:04:08.000 And Michael Malice, of course, is here, but I guess he introduced himself.

00:04:10.000 Everybody knows who he is.

00:04:11.000 Hello, I thought after yesterday we were all going to take a step back and let each other talk.

00:04:17.000 When you're with Alex, it's kind of a competition to talk.

00:04:21.000 There's actually some, there are hater videos, but every now and then a hater video is funny, which they're usually not.

00:04:26.000 And it'll show Alex talking and it's me just sitting there.

00:04:29.000 And the video's titled, like, Mike Cernovich fails job interview for InfoWars.

00:04:34.000 Because I'm just sort of like, hey!

00:04:35.000 And then Alex will, like, look over to you and I'm like, okay, am I supposed to talk now?

00:04:40.000 What exactly is supposed to happen here?

00:04:43.000 So of all the hater videos, that one is actually funny.

00:04:46.000 You just have to scream whenever you get an opportunity to do so, and then that's the only way to get your voice out.

00:04:51.000 Howdy! 0.99

00:04:51.000 Welcome, beautiful and amazing human beings. 0.99

00:04:53.000 My name is Luke Rudowsky of WeAreChange.org, and I once again wanted to thank YouTube for demonetizing me and making me a very humble t-shirt vendor.

00:05:00.000 The t-shirt that I'm wearing right now is one of the shirts that I sell, and it's a picture of A prophet and a saint, Mr. Dr. Ron Paul, and it says, if I told you so, it was a person.

00:05:11.000 And you can get yours exclusively on thebestpoliticalshirts.com, and that's the way to support me.

00:05:16.000 Thanks so much for having me.

00:05:18.000 Thanks for having me.

00:05:18.000 It's Ian Crossland over here.

00:05:19.000 I'm ready to take control of this show and lead the way!

00:05:24.000 Just kidding!

00:05:24.000 I got some amazing powerhouses in the house, and so I'm gonna let you guys display yourselves.

00:05:33.000 I am really looking forward to this battle, the Michaels.

00:05:35.000 I hope it's not actually a battle.

00:05:37.000 I'm hoping to have a super cool conversation, as we always do.

00:05:39.000 Mike Cernovich is not only one of my favorite people, but there's a handful of people in my life where I'm comfortable outsourcing my decision-making on certain issues, and he's one of them.

00:05:49.000 Very cool.

00:05:50.000 So there's not going to be any fighting here at all.

00:05:52.000 Speaking of personal life decisions, Michael, you are an underwear model.

00:05:58.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:05:59.000 If everyone goes to sheathunderwear.com and use promo code MALICE, you'll get 20% off of your underwear.

00:06:05.000 And the good thing about Sheath is it has that dual pouch technology for both parts of your male anatomy.

00:06:11.000 And you can get one step closer to getting inside my pants.

00:06:13.000 And the first time you put it on, you're like, what the hell is this?

00:06:17.000 And you even have the little veins with the hip bone. 0.96

00:06:20.000 Yeah, the cum gutters. 0.77

00:06:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:22.000 That took a lot of work.

00:06:25.000 Family friendly.

00:06:26.000 Well, I mean, I don't know what the term is.

00:06:28.000 Hip flexors.

00:06:29.000 It took a lot of work to get to that point.

00:06:34.000 So high five.

00:06:35.000 And there's a promo code?

00:06:36.000 Promo code MALICE.

00:06:37.000 You get 20% off.

00:06:38.000 And I'll say one thing.

00:06:39.000 The first time I put them on, I'm like, what the hell is this?

00:06:42.000 And now I wear them every day because they're so comfortable.

00:06:44.000 Interesting.

00:06:45.000 So yeah, and I'm proud to be able to... Do they have the pouch?

00:06:50.000 Dual pouch!

00:06:51.000 One for one part of your parts, and another part for another part of your parts.

00:06:54.000 Because the guy who found the company did time in Iraq, where it's very hot. 0.58

00:06:58.000 And this keeps you nice and cool.

00:07:00.000 Good for that RV life.

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00:08:27.000 Let's get into this first story now.

00:08:29.000 Rittenhouse is really, really big, you know, and we're waiting on this verdict, but we really are just waiting on this verdict, so I wanted to lead with something in a similar vein that's big and political, so we decided to talk about the Alec Baldwin stuff because... I was right!

00:08:42.000 Oh boy.

00:08:42.000 Take a look at this story.

00:08:43.000 We got this from the Daily Mail.

00:08:44.000 Alec chose to play Russian roulette.

00:08:47.000 Rust Script Supervisor breaks down in tears as she sues Baldwin over Helena Hutchins' death because he cocked and fired the gun even though the scene didn't call for it. 0.98

00:08:57.000 She says Baldwin knew the gun should have never been given to him and that he could not rely on the assistant director about whether or not the gun was safe to use.

00:09:05.000 Mr. Baldwin chose to play Russian roulette when he fired a gun without checking it and without having an armorer within his presence.

00:09:11.000 I want to point something out.

00:09:13.000 This is what I was saying.

00:09:14.000 A couple weeks ago, everybody started this story saying it was a misfire from a blank, that shrapnel hit this woman, and I wonder, I can't remember who was telling us this, but maybe that was a PR response, a crisis management company for him leaked that story, because they were like, if we start with the premise that it was an accident, everyone will believe it was an accident no matter what.

00:09:34.000 And last week I said, why are we assuming it's an accident?

00:09:38.000 We'd have to assume the armorer screwed up, the assistant director screwed up, that Alec Baldwin screwed up, and then he pointed it in the right direction.

00:09:44.000 Those are all crazy assumptions.

00:09:46.000 How come we're not starting from, Alec Baldwin pulled the gun, pointed it, cocked it, pulled the trigger, and then from there we can walk it back?

00:09:52.000 Now, this is big, the script supervisor, the person who knows exactly what's supposed to go on, on scene, says, he wasn't supposed to have a gun.

00:10:02.000 He should have checked it and he didn't.

00:10:04.000 He certainly wasn't supposed to pull the hammer and pull the trigger.

00:10:08.000 That to me sounds like a good argument for intentional homicide.

00:10:12.000 I'm not a huge gun person, but every time I've handled a gun,

00:10:16.000 the person handing it to me, who's actually a gun expert, or just someone who's an aficionado, gave me a speech.

00:10:21.000 And part of that speech is, you do not point a gun at anything that you do not want to

00:10:26.000 destroy.

00:10:27.000 You assume every single gun you are handling is loaded until you check it personally.

00:10:31.000 You do not put your finger on a trigger.

00:10:33.000 And if you screw up any one of those, you're still going to be safe.

00:10:36.000 And just one more.

00:10:37.000 You don't act like a state prosecutor.

00:10:41.000 But there is actually one more.

00:10:42.000 Always know what's behind your target.

00:10:45.000 What your target is and beyond.

00:10:46.000 That's important here specifically for Baldwin.

00:10:48.000 Because if we're still operating under the premise that he was pointing it at the camera for a scene, he wasn't paying attention to what was behind his target.

00:10:55.000 But I don't buy that for a minute.

00:10:57.000 Look, if we're going to talk about a guy who wasn't supposed to be given a gun.

00:11:01.000 She says it.

00:11:01.000 She's a script supervisor.

00:11:02.000 That's big.

00:11:04.000 Wasn't supposed to have it.

00:11:05.000 Why did he have it?

00:11:06.000 Why am I then going to assume this wasn't murder?

00:11:08.000 Because you've got an angry crew, you've got people threatening to walk off set, Baldwin says, I had a dinner with her just that Friday!

00:11:16.000 Sounds to me, and I said this before, she was actually negotiating him with him, or arguing with him, and then he goes on set, takes the gun and says, BAM!

00:11:24.000 Oh no!

00:11:26.000 Oh jeez! 0.97

00:11:27.000 That's like pure psycho, if he did that. 0.99

00:11:29.000 You're saying that the rumor that went around, that he jokingly said, how about I just kill you both, that that was a false rumor, correct? 0.98

00:11:34.000 Yeah, someone, someone... That was clever, that was a clever hoax.

00:11:37.000 I almost fell for that one too.

00:11:39.000 Me too.

00:11:39.000 I actually recorded a video, and then someone responded with the clip, and I was like, whoa.

00:11:44.000 Cause I'm like, I'm like showing the article, I'm showing the tweet, and then I see that, and I was like, I don't know if that's true, I gotta check.

00:11:49.000 Someone took a news article, and then, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his PR team in order to muddy the waters because a lot of times with this information we see fake information being brought out to the general public to make everyone confused about what's really going on there.

00:12:05.000 And you saw Baldwin right after the incident.

00:12:07.000 He was right on the phone.

00:12:09.000 He was probably talking to his PR people.

00:12:11.000 He was trying to probably run cover.

00:12:12.000 He has a lot of money.

00:12:13.000 He has a lot of influence.

00:12:14.000 And there was a lot of cover.

00:12:16.000 We're just finding out about these details now?

00:12:19.000 How many days later has it been?

00:12:20.000 So what else are they hiding?

00:12:22.000 What else don't we know about?

00:12:23.000 When's the investigation?

00:12:25.000 Is there even an investigation?

00:12:26.000 I mean, what's going on here?

00:12:28.000 Everyone should be asking these larger questions and they're not.

00:12:30.000 An accident means different things, right?

00:12:33.000 They're trying to make it out as if he just dropped a gun and it went off and shot someone.

00:12:37.000 When you are pointing a gun at someone and cocking a trigger, you can't say that that's an accident.

00:12:42.000 That's intentionality.

00:12:43.000 See, I don't even know the terms, but even I know enough, you don't point a gun at someone.

00:12:47.000 It's very intentional.

00:12:48.000 This is three steps.

00:12:49.000 Well, actually, it's four.

00:12:50.000 He drew the weapon.

00:12:51.000 He then pointed it.

00:12:53.000 He then pulled the hammer back.

00:12:54.000 He then pulled the trigger.

00:12:56.000 I mean, that is very intentional.

00:12:58.000 Yeah, it's very disturbing too.

00:13:01.000 And it's also disturbing how many people were on their knees running interference for him

00:13:05.000 immediately.

00:13:06.000 Conservatives especially.

00:13:07.000 Is that right?

00:13:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:08.000 You get the whole conservative... Oh, it's such a tragedy!

00:13:11.000 I can't believe Don Jr.

00:13:13.000 is politicizing.

00:13:14.000 It's just like the spend cycle.

00:13:17.000 And the PR thing you said, I know is true.

00:13:19.000 Because I tweeted out... Man, this is really weird.

00:13:22.000 The engagement that I got, anytime he tweeted about Baldwin, hundreds of replies instantaneously.

00:13:27.000 And it was all, you're cruel, you're vile, how dare, he's a victim here.

00:13:33.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:13:34.000 Yeah.

00:13:35.000 And then you even had conservatives going along, oh, it's just such a tragedy.

00:13:38.000 No, it's tragedy for the woman, obviously, but they were definitely influencing the conversation. 0.98

00:13:45.000 And then I do believe they used this information via that article because then they would go,

00:13:50.000 conspiracy theorists are trying to pigate Alec Baldwin.

00:13:54.000 Can you believe it?

00:13:55.000 Look at these bad actors, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:57.000 I don't know if you know the answer to this question, but is pointing a gun at someone

00:14:01.000 a felony?

00:14:03.000 It's called brandishing, it's a legal term, brandishing a firearm and it definitely depends on the context.

00:14:09.000 So if I were just here with you guys and one of you, you know, brandished a firearm without some kind of intent, then it wouldn't be, but it all depends on the context.

00:14:18.000 But then, if you came to a bank and you just tapped a gun, that would be brandishing, even though you're not even pointing it.

00:14:25.000 Yeah, so it's all based on the context of... And it also depends on the state laws, because in some states like Ohio, what the state prosecutor did in the Kyle Rittenhouse case, that's a chargeable offense.

00:14:37.000 Oh, Wisconsin?

00:14:38.000 No, no, Ohio has a specific rule.

00:14:40.000 Oh, I see.

00:14:40.000 If he would have done the same thing in that state, he would have gone down for a charge.

00:14:44.000 Right, right.

00:14:45.000 So here's what I ask.

00:14:46.000 We have this from law.jesse.com.

00:14:49.000 This is New Mexico statutes on homicide section on manslaughter.

00:14:53.000 And it says voluntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed upon a sudden quarrel or in the heat of passion.

00:14:58.000 Whoever commits voluntary manslaughter.

00:14:59.000 So I don't think that would apply here.

00:15:01.000 They say involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to a felony or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner.

00:15:12.000 uh... or without due caution or circumspect that's about the both alice

00:15:17.000 and that the reason i ask is i'm wondering if by simple so first we can call an accident

00:15:21.000 an accident would be like you said you drop it it goes off and you're like oh

00:15:24.000 no and you might still get in trouble because you're responsible for that

00:15:27.000 but this is a guy who pulled it out and aimed at the woman if is is so can we even argue this is manslaughter if he

00:15:33.000 pointed the gun at her and pull the trigger 0.55

00:15:36.000 you would have some voluntary manslaughter So the way they would say, they could say, well, an

00:15:40.000 accident is still negligent.

00:15:42.000 So the legal term is an accident is negligent.

00:15:44.000 So you get in a car crash.

00:15:46.000 It's an accident, but who was negligent?

00:15:48.000 Were you looking at your cell phone at the time?

00:15:50.000 So involuntary manslaughter, the textbook case of that is if you're drinking and driving, it isn't a felony to drink and drive, but somebody dies, you didn't intend for them to die.

00:15:59.000 So that's usually when that would apply is there was no intent for you to do gross bodily harm or injury to someone else.

00:16:06.000 So with the Alec Baldwin case, we don't have enough Facts to know whether it be voluntary or involuntary because and you there's a whole I mean you could do a whole week of this in law school and then there's all kinds of cases on it where you go from What's the difference between reckless versus negligent?

00:16:22.000 What's the difference between willful and again, negligent?

00:16:25.000 And there's a lot of things that depend on the facts.

00:16:28.000 I would, my instinct from day one was that it would have been involuntary manslaughter.

00:16:33.000 He was recklessly, he was acting with callous or reckless disregard for another person's

00:16:39.000 safety.

00:16:40.000 But I don't think he actually wanted to murder her or anything like that.

00:16:44.000 I don't think he was pointing it at her.

00:16:45.000 I think he was being Alec Baldwin.

00:16:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:48.000 Who, yeah, is a douchebag idiot. 1.00

00:16:51.000 Well, with rage issues, as we know. 1.00

00:16:53.000 But George Clooney, he had a very interesting comment about this.

00:16:57.000 He's usually a globalist stooge, but today he said... I love you, Luke.

00:17:00.000 It's true!

00:17:01.000 It's absolutely true.

00:17:02.000 I mean, look what he pushes.

00:17:04.000 But he came out and was talking about this specific case and said that it was infuriating and insane that this happened as he's accusing Alec Baldwin of ignoring decades And Adam Baldwin also corroborated that.

00:17:16.000 He said that a few weeks ago.

00:17:17.000 I know there's no love lost between the two brothers.

00:17:20.000 He's coming out calling him out saying he wasn't doing what he was supposed to do. There's something here

00:17:25.000 That's not right and Adam Baldwin also could collaborate corroborated that he said that a few weeks ago

00:17:30.000 I know there's no love lost between the two brothers He goes I've been a movie sets and for there's a process

00:17:34.000 for decades that people go through Before you're handed a gun because and this is something

00:17:40.000 that gun advocates talk about all the time Even though the anti-gun people don't say this they know

00:17:44.000 very well a gun is not a toy You are handling a weapon that can kill someone, and you have to treat that with the respect it is due.

00:17:53.000 So, let me start from this premise for you, Sernovich.

00:17:59.000 A man who has decades of firearms training is on set.

00:18:03.000 He has no, there is nothing calling for for brandishing, displaying, or even holding a weapon. 0.80

00:18:09.000 He then points it with a live round and shoots and kills a woman.

00:18:12.000 That, I mean, wouldn't an investigator or a DA go straight for intentional homicide?

00:18:17.000 No, that would be voluntary manslaughter because that would be reckless versus negligent.

00:18:21.000 You're still not an intentional murderer because he didn't intend to kill someone.

00:18:25.000 Wait, but there's no reason to have a gun.

00:18:26.000 If I walk out in the middle of the street and pull out a gun and shoot somebody, they're gonna say intentional homicide, right?

00:18:34.000 Again, it varies on the context.

00:18:36.000 How big was the crowd?

00:18:38.000 Were you celebrating a fiesta or something?

00:18:41.000 Let's say this.

00:18:42.000 I walk into the middle of the street and there's a person filming me with a camera. 1.00

00:18:46.000 I pull out a gun, cock the hammer, shoot him and kill him. 1.00

00:18:49.000 Oh yeah, that would be intentional murder. 1.00

00:18:52.000 So Alec Baldwin, this is why I ask, if we're approaching it from the context of he wasn't supposed to have a gun, That means he walked up, pointed the gun at a woman for no reason, which he wasn't supposed to have, and decided to shoot her.

00:19:03.000 Why would we operate as if that was, like, manslaughter?

00:19:06.000 Because it's the context of the relationship.

00:19:08.000 It's the same thing where if you were on a first date with a girl and she fell asleep and you, you know, looked for some action, that would be sexual assault, potentially, but if it's your wife or your girlfriend, then there's a pattern of consent, so it's different because of the relationship.

00:19:24.000 So the law That's why the law is hard.

00:19:27.000 He's in a dispute with the crew.

00:19:28.000 They were threatened to walk off set.

00:19:30.000 Well, that would be the case that people would make, and their case would say that we have a working relationship.

00:19:35.000 It's existed here.

00:19:36.000 He pulled out the gun.

00:19:38.000 He was... I see, I see.

00:19:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:39.000 So it's very... you get it.

00:19:41.000 I mean, law is really... I love having these conversations.

00:19:43.000 It's all about getting in the weeds.

00:19:45.000 And everything is about facts and circumstances.

00:19:47.000 That's why law drives people crazy.

00:19:49.000 Because it's all context-based, and one fact can literally change the whole outcome.

00:19:54.000 Did you see the clip when Alec Baldwin was outside his house, like, yelling at reporters?

00:19:58.000 And there were two things that were really clear from that clip that I found, one disturbing, one not disturbing.

00:20:03.000 One is, he very clearly feels horrible about this.

00:20:05.000 Like, this is not something where he went to bed that night like, oh, it'll be fine.

00:20:07.000 He's disturbed by this.

00:20:09.000 As virtually anyone is who's responsible for killing someone else.

00:20:11.000 But he also clearly feels that because he's so upset, that means he's suffered enough and leave me alone.

00:20:16.000 And that, to me, is a big problem.

00:20:18.000 You don't get to decide, well, I feel really bad, I'm suffering, shut up and go away.

00:20:23.000 That's not how it works.

00:20:24.000 Because you did something that was extremely preventable, and one person is dead as a consequence.

00:20:28.000 He might have been wrong.

00:20:29.000 Real quick, correction.

00:20:30.000 People are pointing out Adam Baldwin is not a Baldwin brother.

00:20:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:20:33.000 Another thing to really consider here is that Alec Baldwin went to anger management before because of his rage issues and because of other court proceedings that he had related to, of course, blowing up and getting really angry and, you know, committing acts of either harassment or assault against other people.

00:20:51.000 There is a long history here of someone who isn't in control of his emotions to the point where he has sought professional help.

00:20:58.000 So that's another thing to consider.

00:21:00.000 What if he clearly does feel bad about this, but not for her, for him?

00:21:03.000 Like, oh man, I got really mad.

00:21:05.000 I pulled the trigger.

00:21:06.000 I shouldn't have done that.

00:21:07.000 But was he mad?

00:21:08.000 It seemed like he was doing it very matter-of-factly.

00:21:10.000 Well, Malice, he's an actor, too.

00:21:12.000 He's an actor, too.

00:21:13.000 So we have to consider that when he's portraying these emotions.

00:21:16.000 I don't think he's that good of an actor.

00:21:17.000 Maybe.

00:21:18.000 As Jack Donaghy was mad.

00:21:21.000 But that's a cartoon character, right?

00:21:23.000 I think it's very hard to make the case that Yeah, he's not disturbed by seeing someone he was at least if one of you right now God forbid something happened.

00:21:31.000 We'd all be you're making assumptions You're making assumptions that this is the issue.

00:21:34.000 I took with the case initially.

00:21:35.000 We don't know they were friends I didn't say they were friends even if it's just some random almost said they were friends.

00:21:39.000 You're about to say they were friends Alex said they were friends, on the record.

00:21:42.000 He said that, but what I'm saying is even if it's someone like, you know, a person you had just a conversation with at a party, and in front of you you saw them get shot and bleed out, I think the vast, vast majority of people will be traumatized for life.

00:21:55.000 Especially if you're the one who pulled the trigger.

00:21:57.000 The DA says they know who put the bullets in the gun.

00:21:59.000 Oh.

00:21:59.000 Yeah, that was something that came out a while ago.

00:22:01.000 So I guess in this case, I mean, final thoughts, you think they're gonna actually charge him for anything?

00:22:06.000 Is the stuff coming out from witnesses?

00:22:08.000 I say no.

00:22:08.000 No way.

00:22:09.000 Really?

00:22:10.000 They're not gonna get a conviction.

00:22:12.000 Just some people are above the law.

00:22:14.000 Yeah.

00:22:14.000 And Alec Baldwin would fall into that category.

00:22:18.000 You think they'll charge the assistant director of the armor?

00:22:21.000 So that, I think a lot of money will exchange hands, and, cause Alec Baldwin's gonna owe millions of dollars to the family, you know, cause if they're, either way, if it's your friend, like if you accidentally killed a friend of yours, you would go to the family and be like, look dude, you don't have to sue me, like, what do you need?

00:22:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:39.000 So if they're friends, he's writing a big check.

00:22:41.000 If they're not friends, he's writing a big check.

00:22:44.000 So if they really are friends and the husband's gonna say, what good does it do to put you in jail?

00:22:49.000 They're gonna go to the DA and say, I don't want anybody charged with this.

00:22:52.000 We're not gonna cooperate.

00:22:53.000 We're gonna do the opposite.

00:22:55.000 It's actually really interesting because I'm sure that probably happens a lot where someone does commit an act that results in death.

00:23:03.000 That should be criminally charged, but the family who would normally be complaining are just like, no, we understand it was an accident.

00:23:09.000 You know that the U.S.

00:23:10.000 has bag men who go to the Middle East, and when we accidentally kill children, we write them out the check to these families, and if it's a boy, they get a lot bigger of a check than if we accidentally kill one of the girls.

00:23:20.000 So this is actually U.S.

00:23:22.000 taxes.

00:23:23.000 Yeah.

00:23:23.000 And there's actuarial tables for how much you pay off these poor people in the Middle East who basically lost their son or daughter for no reason, depending on what country, what neighborhood and the age of the child and how many other siblings they had.

00:23:35.000 And it's and it's this is where your tax dollars are going.

00:23:38.000 This is insane.

00:23:38.000 Sometimes I wish this was a cooking show, and we could be like, the cherry goes on the whipped cream, and then we all enjoy a nice strawberry shortcake.

00:23:44.000 Instead, we're like, after they kill the child, they send someone to pay off the family.

00:23:47.000 And then, real quick, yeah, real quick also too is, if you're a prosecutor, and you have a case that's going to be hard to prove anyway, so you're a prosecutor, you can file a case that's going to be hard to prove, and then the victim's family says, we don't want you to file it, then you're not going to file it.

00:24:04.000 Because what do you gain?

00:24:05.000 And it's very hard to make the case, in terms of sentencing him, that this is something he would do again.

00:24:09.000 Right, right, right.

00:24:10.000 Let's talk about Rittenhouse, huh?

00:24:11.000 Oh yeah.

00:24:12.000 So this, uh, last night we were doing the Members Only show, and like right in the middle we're like, whoa, what's this story?

00:24:18.000 Jack Posobiec tweets out that the prosecution withheld evidence from the Kyle Rittenhouse defense team.

00:24:23.000 Not true.

00:24:24.000 It's actually not true.

00:24:25.000 What happened?

00:24:26.000 They sent manipulated evidence to the defense team.

00:24:29.000 It's even worse.

00:24:29.000 Let me explain how bad this is.

00:24:32.000 If the prosecution, they say they have a drone footage.

00:24:35.000 Actually, we have this article right here.

00:24:36.000 This is from Andrew Branca.

00:24:38.000 Day two, defense files for mistrial with prejudice.

00:24:41.000 You can see image from the drone footage.

00:24:43.000 If the prosecution presented the drone footage in court, the defense would have went, whoa, whoa, whoa, we've never received this evidence, your honor.

00:24:49.000 Let's see.

00:24:50.000 So the prosecution instead gives them grainy low-res video.

00:24:54.000 Now, I think it was on Mercatus stream, they played the different videos side-by-side, and if you pulled up on the TV and you were given that, the defense had no way of knowing that this was not the video.

00:25:07.000 They're given the video, they play it, they say it's a video, it's drone footage, makes sense to me.

00:25:11.000 Only when the defense played the video in the jury instructions did the state go, our version is much clearer.

00:25:20.000 Our version is much clearer. 0.99

00:25:21.000 Now a lot of people are like, how dumb are they? 0.99

00:25:23.000 Why would they admit it? 1.00

00:25:24.000 They had no choice.

00:25:26.000 If the prosecution was attempting to pull a fast one on the defense to make sure they had no way to analyze the video to form a defense, That means they need the jury to see their version of the evidence, which is clearer. 0.98

00:25:37.000 When the defense played it, they went, oh crap.

00:25:40.000 We need the jury to only see our version, and the reason the defense is given the low-res version is so they can't formulate a defense on time.

00:25:48.000 So he had no choice but to say, our version is clearer, let's play that instead.

00:25:52.000 Now, normally I'd say it was an accident.

00:25:55.000 The argument is they texted the video to the defense team, which compressed it.

00:25:59.000 That's insane to do.

00:26:01.000 Now, the defense should have caught that, but it's not their fault.

00:26:02.000 They're told they're going to be given the footage and the video, and they believe it to be true and correct.

00:26:07.000 But I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

00:26:09.000 They've committed constitutional violations.

00:26:11.000 They've ignored rulings from the judge.

00:26:14.000 The judge says he's going to hold this in his back pocket until a verdict, but he very well may come back out and say, mistrial with prejudice, Rittenhouse is free to go.

00:26:23.000 Wait, can I ask Mike a question because you're an attorney?

00:26:25.000 Let's suppose they forgot, right?

00:26:27.000 Like there was a video file and it's in a drawer and it's like, oops, I forgot, I have it now, and I'm a prosecutor in good faith and the jury's already deliberating.

00:26:35.000 What can I do at that point as a prosecutor who would be acting in good faith?

00:26:39.000 Yeah, that would, so tech, there's a, they call those Brady violations.

00:26:42.000 Brady is information that could go to guilt or innocence or deal with sent, um, information at sentencing.

00:26:49.000 So in other words, it shows you as, um, maybe a better person, a more innocent person than you thought.

00:26:54.000 So if it's a good faith error on something like that, you could get a mistrial with, without prejudice and retry it.

00:27:01.000 Um, that, that would be the remedy if you wanted it.

00:27:04.000 The defense, I don't know if they would, Oh.

00:27:06.000 depending on how the case you're making a guess right the defense lawyer would

00:27:08.000 would say hey I think we're gonna win anyway and not take it.

00:27:12.000 I have a correction. Yeah.

00:27:14.000 At 2 45 p.m. the defense made a verbal motion for a mistrial without prejudice.

00:27:18.000 Oh. Oh. Wow. Very wow.

00:27:22.000 Prosecution makes laundry list of excuses over the state not providing defense of

00:27:26.000 high-resolution drone video.

00:27:28.000 Judge warns prosecution.

00:27:30.000 He'd warned them there would be a day of reckoning over this drone video, and then says he's not going to make a decision now, inclined to see what the verdict is going to be.

00:27:39.000 On the 15th, the defense filed a motion for a mistrial with prejudice, which means they cannot bring the charges back.

00:27:45.000 But it seems like the defense is so upset over the cheating that they're like, just do a mistrial.

00:27:50.000 We will do this over.

00:27:52.000 Why would they want to do it?

00:27:52.000 Would they do it over?

00:27:53.000 Would they have the same prosecutor?

00:27:55.000 Yeah, it would be the same prosecutor, but you know their whole case now.

00:27:58.000 You have their witnesses on the record, so they can't change their story.

00:28:02.000 They can't be impeached.

00:28:04.000 Yeah, you have all this, and then there's that guy whose criminal record has all come out now.

00:28:10.000 Maybe you didn't have that.

00:28:13.000 The DUI against him being dismissed, maybe that comes in.

00:28:16.000 So there's a lot of things that you're going to try to bring in in a do-over.

00:28:21.000 And all anybody can do is guess, right?

00:28:25.000 So the defense is squeamish now, because usually a longer deliberation means guilty.

00:28:31.000 Oh, okay.

00:28:31.000 Because people don't want to come back quick from jury and convict, right?

00:28:35.000 Because then it looks like you're just a bad person, like, oh yeah, we heard the evidence, 30 minutes, guilty, boom.

00:28:41.000 You take longer, but if it's not guilty, you come back right away.

00:28:45.000 Now the Rittenhouse, there's all this speculation that there's a couple of holdouts, they're left-wing activists, and that it's going to be hung.

00:28:52.000 Do they need just a majority to quit?

00:28:55.000 Or does it have to be unanimous either way?

00:28:57.000 Oh, so if it's split it's a mistrial.

00:28:59.000 Wow.

00:28:59.000 already to quit or it has to be unanimous either way? It has to be unanimous either way.

00:29:02.000 Oh, so if it's split it's a mistrial. It's a mistrial and then they go back and try it

00:29:07.000 again.

00:29:08.000 Okay. Will Chamberlain had some interesting comments about this.

00:29:10.000 He said earlier that, quote, "...pretty clear that Rittenhouse lawyers are getting jittery.

00:29:15.000 Moving for a mistrial without prejudice indicates a serious worry that a guilty verdict is coming back and that they want to get in front of it."

00:29:23.000 So that could be a possibility here as well.

00:29:25.000 So here's the way you would game it out if you were, you know, if you're a white born again. 0.62

00:29:25.000 I don't think guilty. 0.62

00:29:29.000 You would say, okay, it already looks like the jury's going to be hung.

00:29:33.000 Right.

00:29:34.000 We don't know if it's going to be hung because it was 10 to guilty, and 2 not guilty, or if it was 10 not guilty, 2 holdouts.

00:29:40.000 They're going to hang it, but you're thinking it's already going to hang, so then why would you even take a choice that it might be hanging because it's going to be guilty, or that they're going to convince those two other jurors to to change their vote to being guilty. So you're thinking

00:29:53.000 the odds would just say let's just do a redo and we have all this information now that we can use.

00:29:58.000 But they still filed a motion for mistrial with prejudice and a verbal motion for mistrial.

00:30:03.000 Are both motions available to the judge?

00:30:05.000 Well one would supersede the judge can do whatever he wants.

00:30:08.000 So the initial reason they filed it, the motion with prejudice, so there was that set of

00:30:14.000 questions where the prosecutor had said this is your first time talking since August 25th 2020. Now

00:30:21.000 there's this is black letter law that you cannot make a comment about a person exercising

00:30:27.000 his or her Miranda right.

00:30:28.000 What does black letter law mean?

00:30:30.000 Oh, it means it's not really up for debate.

00:30:32.000 It just is.

00:30:33.000 If you take the bar exam and you read that transcript, there's actually a right answer.

00:30:38.000 Now, the prosecutor tried to say, well, I wasn't commenting on his silence.

00:30:43.000 I was just saying that because he was able to watch the whole trial, He could key up his story, and you technically can make that argument, but you can't say, this is the first time you've talked.

00:30:54.000 You can say, you can skip that line and say, hey, isn't it true, Tim, that you've been sitting here for this whole trial?

00:31:00.000 Well, isn't it true that you've watched every witness testify?

00:31:00.000 And you go, yes.

00:31:03.000 And you go, so isn't it true then that you know exactly what you have to say in order to get the outcome you want?

00:31:03.000 And you say, yes.

00:31:09.000 You can do that, but I can't.

00:31:11.000 No.

00:31:12.000 The answer is no.

00:31:13.000 Yeah, you would say, no, I'm here to tell the truth, and there's all this back and forth, but the idea, too, and the prosecutor's not very competent, Binger is not competent at all, is when you're cross-examining, you just give a person a yes or no answer.

00:31:25.000 You don't let him elaborate.

00:31:28.000 There's so many just basic tactical blunders that he made, but that would be the idea, because then you would say, isn't it true that you could come up with any story you want, and you would say, no, I'm here to tell the truth.

00:31:37.000 And then it doesn't matter because you're just imposing your narrative on the witness in cross-examination, which is the way it's supposed to be.

00:31:45.000 You don't get to tell your narrative on cross-examination, the Inquisitor gets to, and everything has to be a leading question, yes or no, just keep it yes or no, isn't that true?

00:31:54.000 So fortunately Binger is incompetent, unethical.

00:31:57.000 And I tweeted out even, you know, quoting Michael Maus, that to be blackpailed is to think that Binger's gonna beat us, right? 0.93

00:32:05.000 Yeah, like that these aren't unstoppable foes.

00:32:06.000 Yeah, yeah, they're clearly... they're evil.

00:32:08.000 Yeah, but... So the jury is deliberating.

00:32:12.000 Don't they know people outside are screaming on megaphones?

00:32:15.000 Of course, the jury should have been sequestered.

00:32:17.000 They're not sequestered?

00:32:18.000 You know that someone... Are you serious?

00:32:20.000 And someone... I know, I didn't believe it myself.

00:32:22.000 Someone filmed the jury from their bus pickup and the judge went, well, we'll just make sure that doesn't happen again when we deleted the footage.

00:32:28.000 And it's like, what?

00:32:30.000 The jury's got to be sweating bullets.

00:32:32.000 Right.

00:32:33.000 And there's no Merrick Garland's not going to issue a memo saying that we need to go after people who are trying to tamper with the jury, even though that's how they get the mob for jury tampering.

00:32:43.000 It's literally jury tampering happening here. 0.99

00:32:47.000 And they're getting away with it, so they're definitely evil, but they're also dumb. 0.98

00:32:54.000 If you're looking at this from a big strategic perspective, and that's what makes them dangerous, is they don't have any morality. 1.00

00:33:02.000 That much we know, but they're dumb, and they haven't been through a crucible. 0.99

00:33:06.000 I don't know if you saw Adam Schiff cry on The View. 1.00

00:33:09.000 Over a couple of questions, and I'm thinking they can't stand any kind of media scrutiny, so they are weak.

00:33:14.000 Can you explain something else to me?

00:33:15.000 Because I always try to steal, man.

00:33:17.000 It's something I don't understand.

00:33:18.000 I'm thinking it's me.

00:33:20.000 How would anyone as a prosecutor tell the jury and the audience that who hasn't taken a beating at one point in their life?

00:33:27.000 That seems like such a bizarre statement to make.

00:33:29.000 He said that?

00:33:30.000 Yeah, like what am I missing?

00:33:33.000 People make bad arguments.

00:33:34.000 Oh, okay.

00:33:35.000 Is it what it looks like?

00:33:36.000 Okay.

00:33:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:37.000 I want to address what you were saying, you know, look, zombies have no morality, and zombies are stupid, but when you get a whole lot of them, you're in trouble. 0.95

00:33:43.000 At least figuratively, because no one's ever actually been attacked by zombies. 0.99

00:33:46.000 But you get the point! 0.99

00:33:47.000 No, they out- and that's the- that was strategically, is they outnumber us, they're evil, and they're dumb, but that's how you have to war game it out. 1.00

00:33:54.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:33:55.000 Is- but the problem with you know, conservatives or whatever the case is, the people

00:33:59.000 who are supposed to counteract it, is they constantly refuse to accept that you're dealing

00:34:05.000 with the evil. This isn't...

00:34:07.000 They're not wrong. They're not making mistakes. They're evil. They want to, like, destroy people's

00:34:12.000 lives. I was... yeah. I was just on Rogan's show and I don't think it comes out today.

00:34:18.000 It comes out tomorrow, whatever.

00:34:19.000 But I said, Chris Cuomo is evil.

00:34:21.000 And Joe was like, no, man, he's like, he's not evil.

00:34:23.000 Like these guys are just doing production and they're not paying attention.

00:34:25.000 And I said, it's the banality of evil.

00:34:27.000 Chris Cuomo pretended to be in quarantine to trick people into thinking he was locked down when he wasn't, when he was going to his private property and got into a fight with some guy or verbal altercation.

00:34:37.000 And I said, it's evil to willfully deceive the people.

00:34:39.000 Yeah, it's lying.

00:34:40.000 It's called lying.

00:34:41.000 But it's more than lying.

00:34:42.000 We're talking about people whose lives are being destroyed by this, and he's acting as an agent to make sure they don't resist, as their businesses, their homes, their families, and everything's destroyed.

00:34:52.000 And I'm like, it's evil, man.

00:34:53.000 It's tough, because this cell phone was built by slaves, and I know that, but I still bought it and I still use it. 1.00

00:34:59.000 Am I evil?

00:34:59.000 Yes.

00:35:01.000 Thank you, Michael.

00:35:02.000 The honest truth.

00:35:03.000 That's not why.

00:35:03.000 I know that.

00:35:05.000 But isn't it still the banality of evil?

00:35:07.000 That we knew that the Foxconn labs were so horrifying, people were committing mass suicide, and we were like, but we accept this because we want it.

00:35:14.000 Isn't that the banality?

00:35:16.000 That we would just go along with these horrifying systems?

00:35:18.000 And the banality of evil is more...

00:35:20.000 Right.

00:35:21.000 But that's what I'm saying.

00:35:22.000 in the form that you think it is. At Charles Manson it was based on Hera and its book where

00:35:26.000 she would examine these Nazis and they're more like, hey I just want to like keep my 0.97

00:35:31.000 job and I need to get X number of Jews. But that's what I'm saying. Yeah but, but. Hey 1.00

00:35:35.000 look I just, the phone I need it for work and I understand slaves are. Cuomo's willfully

00:35:38.000 evil. But Cuomo's willfully evil. Right, right.

00:35:38.000 But Cuomo's mostly evil.

00:35:41.000 Banality of evil would imply that he's just like, um, hey, I'm going to get vaccinated for my job and I'm going to show my vaccination pass to people and I'm just going to kind of cooperate because this is what I have to do.

00:35:53.000 Ian actually had, I think, one of the best responses because we were talking about whether or not the NPCs, the zombie hordes, are truly evil.

00:36:00.000 And so I asked Ian, I was like, Ian, are zombies evil?

00:36:03.000 And he immediately was like, Uh, well, in D&D, yes, they are chaotic evil, but I like- Well, they're not, they don't have an alignment anymore, Ian.

00:36:09.000 They made them neutral.

00:36:10.000 Yeah, they're not neutral, they don't have an alignment.

00:36:13.000 Whoa.

00:36:14.000 You ruined the funny point.

00:36:14.000 What is happening?

00:36:15.000 Topsy-turvy.

00:36:16.000 Do your homework, Ian Crosser.

00:36:17.000 Well, the zombie lord is evil, I know that.

00:36:19.000 Well, the zombie lord has sentience, Ian.

00:36:20.000 Yes.

00:36:21.000 The Lich King.

00:36:21.000 Okay, guys.

00:36:22.000 I wanna talk to you about evil.

00:36:24.000 I wanna talk to all of you about the Rittenhouse trial and what we can see as reasonable mature adults evil.

00:36:32.000 Did you know that Gage Grosskreutz in January 2021 had a drunk driving offense?

00:36:37.000 And the prosecutor said we'll make that go bye-bye six days before the Rittenhouse trial?

00:36:42.000 Let me show you here from New York Post.

00:36:44.000 Sole survivor has criminal past, they say.

00:36:47.000 Grosskreutz28 was in court just six days before Rittenhouse's murder trial where he was a star witness to have a recent drunk driving charge dismissed on a technicality.

00:36:56.000 I wonder.

00:36:57.000 So weird yeah I mean we talked about this a little bit when ...

00:37:00.000 Rogan came on I kind of went off and talked about all of his ...

00:37:03.000 criminal charges the Daily Mail called them a career ...

00:37:05.000 criminal but this wasn't his first DUI this was his second ...

00:37:08.000 DUI now I don't know anyone who had a DUI had a second one ...

00:37:11.000 and was able to get off of it when when the consequences are ...

00:37:14.000 so serious when when you have a second DUI I mean I we could ...

00:37:17.000 look up exactly the ramifications of it but the ...

00:37:20.000 first DUI in some states they take away your car they take ...

00:37:23.000 away your car they take away your car they take away your ...

00:37:25.000 license and you face a very long jail term because of that.

00:37:33.000 A second one on a longer criminal record of domestic abuse, prowling, trespass, felony Burglary?

00:37:39.000 Two counts of carrying firearms while intoxicated on top of these two DUIs?

00:37:46.000 I mean, we're talking about someone who's definitely not an upstanding citizen, but yet he's treated like some kind of celebrity on Good Morning America, which he had his first interview on, and I think the nerds want to nerd out about something.

00:37:58.000 Yeah, we're getting to the important stuff right now.

00:38:00.000 I love this show.

00:38:01.000 You are fact-checked, Michael Malice!

00:38:03.000 You were just talking about how these people are NPCs, they're zombies, and the question is, are zombies evil?

00:38:11.000 As of 5th edition Dungeons & Dragons, yes, they are neutral evil.

00:38:15.000 They don't tend towards law or chaos, they're kind of in the middle, but they're definitely evil.

00:38:20.000 For context, for people who don't understand, We're just making an analogy to, you have all of these people who will vote Democrat, who will go along with lockdowns and mandates and restrictions on civil liberties, they'll go along with the Rittenhouse prosecutor presenting false evidence and they will just say, I don't care what happened, I'm on their side no matter what, we call them zombies.

00:38:43.000 And then the question was, but is that evil or is that just being a zombie?

00:38:46.000 Ian told us last week that in D&D, zombies are evil, but Michael contested this, and you have been fact-checked, sir.

00:38:53.000 Zombies are evil.

00:38:54.000 I also think there's a difference between NPCs and zombies, though.

00:38:57.000 I think so, too.

00:38:58.000 Because zombies are actually actively hunting.

00:39:00.000 And this suggests that their neutral evil suggests that they will betray the law at any moment for their own self-serving purposes, and they'll also side with the law at any moment for their own self-serving purposes.

00:39:11.000 Zombies are mindless.

00:39:12.000 Zombies don't have an opinion on the law.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, I mean, you can get, you know, what is evil, does evil require intent, does it require outcome, what if you're in good nature, and that's why I don't use, and I really used to not use it, but my rhetoric has probably gotten a little more fiery over the years, I very rarely say someone's evil.

00:39:31.000 Almost never.

00:39:32.000 I used to be the exact same way.

00:39:33.000 And I'd be very philosophical, like, a lot of these people are just not paying attention, but when we get to the point where Binger, the prosecutor, introduces fake evidence, CGI evidence, commits constitutional violations, defies the rulings, the problem is the judge let him get away with it!

00:39:50.000 Evil is rewarded!

00:39:52.000 Well, I don't think that... I agree with Mike, but I think NPCs aren't evil per se, but the ones who are running the show are the evil ones.

00:39:59.000 Right, the Chris Cuomo's evil, Don Lemon's evil, the Lemmings who watch CNN, they're just Lemmings. 0.97

00:40:06.000 They would fall off a cliff, they would literally, if Chris Cuomo told people to do anything, they would fall off a cliff to their own detriment.

00:40:13.000 And if they were born in Idaho, they'd be watching Fox and they'd be NPCs in that class.

00:40:16.000 Right, right, exactly.

00:40:17.000 So they're just following whatever they're told to do, so they're not evil, they're just mindless Yes.

00:40:23.000 people who would go off a cliff again if they had to, which is different.

00:40:27.000 But binger's evil, without question, because the people who are trying to lynch a 17 year 0.56

00:40:32.000 old are evil. 0.99

00:40:33.000 The pedophile who got shot was evil. 1.00

00:40:37.000 Like pedophilia, I put that on the evil list. 0.98

00:40:40.000 And this guy, I mean, it was the most atrocious.

00:40:44.000 I want to not get into the specifics because it's so atrocious.

00:40:47.000 I don't think people want to hear what he did to these children.

00:40:50.000 It wasn't like he was watching pornography.

00:40:52.000 He actually assaulted more than one child.

00:40:54.000 I think assault is not strong enough.

00:40:56.000 We can't say what he did.

00:40:58.000 He committed atrocities against children.

00:41:01.000 Five of them, eleven counts, ages nine to eleven, those details matter.

00:41:05.000 And there's no, the only reason he's allowed on the street is because of our legal system, which is flawed.

00:41:11.000 If someone does that to a child, this person should never be allowed to see the outside of a cell.

00:41:16.000 Children.

00:41:16.000 I'm kind of with you about, I'm reticent to call people good and evil because the way, especially the way D&D works, it's a scale from like, let me reference the Bible real quick.

00:41:25.000 You have a rating from 1 to 100, evil being 1, good being 100, and you're somewhere on that scale, 78, say.

00:41:30.000 Every act you do, maybe it's an evil act, might drop that from a 78 to a 74.

00:41:35.000 And then you might do a good act to a tone, and then you might do something horrible, like kill someone, and it drops to a 5.

00:41:40.000 And all of a sudden, but that doesn't mean it's- Like Alex Baldwin.

00:41:42.000 It's not static.

00:41:43.000 Yeah, interesting.

00:41:44.000 So you're not- Right.

00:41:46.000 You might be able to, they say, right now, what you've done, we think you're evil, but that doesn't mean you're not capable of good.

00:41:51.000 Sure, I believe in God and redemption, and I think that... I mean, I believe in original sin.

00:41:55.000 I think we're all... we all have evil in us.

00:41:57.000 So let me ask you this question, though, Ian.

00:41:59.000 If Reza Aslan of CNN eats human brain, is he a cannibal?

00:42:02.000 I don't... Ooh, that's a good question.

00:42:05.000 If you played tennis in your 20s, but you no longer play... no longer play, are you still a tennis player?

00:42:08.000 Well, hold on.

00:42:09.000 We're talking about very serious actions.

00:42:11.000 I understand people like... I would actually argue, if you played tennis, like, you're a tennis player.

00:42:18.000 But cannibalism is something very specific.

00:42:21.000 Reza Aslan of CNN, on TV, ate human brain.

00:42:25.000 Is it fair to call... How did he get it, though?

00:42:27.000 It was given to him by this fringe sect of, like, Hindu monks or whatever.

00:42:31.000 But how could human brain have anything to do with CNN, though?

00:42:33.000 It makes no sense.

00:42:34.000 CNN did a show about religions... That was a joke, yeah.

00:42:37.000 Oh.

00:42:38.000 Come on, Sam!

00:42:40.000 I like it!

00:42:42.000 But hold on, has anyone addressed the question?

00:42:44.000 Is Reza Aslan a cannibal, even though he's not eating humans now?

00:42:47.000 The idea, and that goes to, are you defined by your worst moment?

00:42:52.000 And again, that's why I don't like to use evil, because if you're a lawyer, you've thought about this.

00:42:57.000 If you've defended people charged with terrible things, You think, are you defined by your worst moment?

00:43:03.000 That's a question that everybody has to wrestle with.

00:43:05.000 It's a philosophical one.

00:43:07.000 So can you never not... There's even that joke that the guy said he fornicated with the goat once and now for the rest of his life he's a goat fornicator. 0.99

00:43:16.000 And my belief, generally speaking, is that there's a redemption period. 0.98

00:43:21.000 I disagree.

00:43:22.000 Well, if you... Hold on, hold on, I disagree.

00:43:25.000 Rosenbaum.

00:43:27.000 10 years?

00:43:27.000 20 years?

00:43:28.000 It's been 15 years.

00:43:30.000 It had been 15 years since those actions he committed.

00:43:33.000 Ah, sorry.

00:43:34.000 Is that the one who assaulted the kids?

00:43:35.000 Yes.

00:43:35.000 You don't come back from that.

00:43:36.000 You don't come back.

00:43:37.000 But do you come back from eating human?

00:43:39.000 Yes, because he didn't kill the human.

00:43:40.000 He didn't kill the person.

00:43:41.000 Alright.

00:43:42.000 What if you murder someone, are you a murderer?

00:43:43.000 Yes.

00:43:44.000 Forever.

00:43:45.000 Yes, in my opinion.

00:43:46.000 If it's murder, I don't mean like drunk driving.

00:43:47.000 Then why not a cannibal?

00:43:49.000 See, this is an important question.

00:43:50.000 I don't think cannibalism is that bad in this context.

00:43:52.000 I don't think so.

00:43:53.000 But what I'm saying is, what we're basically saying is based on our personal views of morality,

00:43:57.000 we're willing to give someone redemption and not call them a name by their worst moment.

00:44:01.000 If someone murders someone, they're always a murderer.

00:44:03.000 Alec Baldwin is always a murderer, but Reza Aslan is no longer a cannibal?

00:44:06.000 I don't think eating human brains is a problem.

00:44:09.000 Like I said, with stuff that happens with kids is a little different.

00:44:12.000 I don't like to reduce people to their lowest moment.

00:44:17.000 Generally speaking, that's not how I view humanity, because my fundamental view is that we're all, whatever's in our hearts and minds, if that were published to the world, what would that look like, right?

00:44:27.000 And then you would say, well, that's the evil thought, that's different, the actions are different, and there's a whole sliding scale to this, but my view, generally speaking, is That you don't hold, you don't define a person by their worst moment, with the exception, again, with, you know, if you're a serial child molester, you know, that's a little bit different than a guy who loaded up maybe something, a video or something that he shouldn't have.

00:44:48.000 There could be a period of redemption after that.

00:44:50.000 But in the familiest, friendliest way, I want to make sure we stress that he was beyond that.

00:44:54.000 Rosenbaum was committing atrocities against children.

00:44:56.000 The worst possible.

00:44:57.000 The worst possible thing you could imagine being done to a child that they would have to live with for the rest of their lives.

00:45:01.000 I would also say don't define people by their best moment.

00:45:03.000 Yes.

00:45:04.000 Because a lot of people have like, Alec Baldwin's done a lot of great work as an actor, but if he does some horrible crime, I don't want to be like, well, he's a good guy, so let's let him go.

00:45:12.000 That's why I don't follow.

00:45:13.000 The bad moment is and how good the good moment is, right?

00:45:15.000 If someone's like a firefighter, and then he like, you know, gets into a bar fight and beat somebody up, I'm willing to let that slide.

00:45:22.000 I don't care about a bar fight.

00:45:23.000 I think there's a sliding scale, too, because are we talking about someone like Henry Kissinger, Jeffrey Epstein?

00:45:29.000 Because they're in a different realm of evil, comparatively to, of course, you know, low-level criminals, petty criminals, arsonists.

00:45:37.000 There's a big difference between the two.

00:45:38.000 That's a good way, if you think of every action in your life as weighting the scale of one to a hundred.

00:45:42.000 If you've done a million things that have given you a hundred, and then you do one thing that gives you a one, it's barely going to move the needle to 99.9.

00:45:47.000 Like, Henry Kissinger is Satan. 0.96

00:45:49.000 He is absolutely evil. 0.99

00:45:50.000 is not great. At least Linda. Linda. Linda. Linda. Linda.

00:45:55.000 Honey. Listen honey. Linda. Stop it there. Listen honey. 1.00

00:46:01.000 Linda. He's in the kitchen. Do you like his ideas on limited war? I don't want to derail but. I mean what Kissinger

00:46:12.000 has done throughout his entire career. Propping up China and the communist states

00:46:12.000 there up deed industrializing the United States ...

00:46:15.000 bringing jobs over there putting the current geopolitical ...

00:46:18.000 situation setting up Saudi Arabia with the petrol dollar ...

00:46:22.000 I mean the way that the world is right now how broken it is ...

00:46:25.000 can be directly correlated to Henry Kissinger the man ...

00:46:28.000 advises the Pope he advised presidents he.

00:46:31.000 He advises corporations.

00:46:33.000 He advised Obama.

00:46:34.000 Obama's national security advisor said he takes his daily orders from Henry Kissinger, and Obama has a lot of influence in the Biden administration, so I would say he's still in charge.

00:46:44.000 He sat down with Donald Trump.

00:46:45.000 Donald Trump was licking his boots.

00:46:47.000 All right, those are really good points.

00:46:49.000 I don't want to derail, though, and I have a question for Cernovich.

00:46:54.000 The deliberations in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial have now gone on for over two days.

00:46:59.000 What do you think that means?

00:47:02.000 Well, that's what I was talking about earlier.

00:47:04.000 If I were his lawyer, what I think it would mean is that if you can get a mistrial without prejudice, you want to roll the dice again.

00:47:12.000 Because the only outcome for you at that point is it's tending towards bad.

00:47:16.000 If I had to guess, I would say that there's one or two holdouts to convict.

00:47:21.000 It's the vast majority of people who are not guilty.

00:47:23.000 A couple of activists got on that jury.

00:47:25.000 And they're going to hang, because usually you hang the jury the other way.

00:47:28.000 Usually your challenge is getting one or two people, usually need two because one person is always going to back down, to vote not guilty and get the retrial.

00:47:37.000 This I think is the opposite because he's so clearly, like if we were the left and he were convicted, my god, because he's so clearly not guilty, it's not even up for reasonable discussion.

00:47:49.000 If they were to get a mistrial without prejudice, would they get a new jury?

00:47:52.000 Yep, it'd be all over.

00:47:54.000 Good luck finding an untainted jury at this point.

00:47:56.000 But on top of that, do they recall all the witnesses?

00:48:00.000 Yeah, so what you do, and this is why if you're Rittenhouse's lawyer, you're thinking, man, I have indigestion, things have been going on for a long time, looking like we're not going to get a not guilty.

00:48:11.000 If we roll the dice again, we have every witness now, we know what they're going to say, so we know what our opening argument, our closing argument is going to be.

00:48:18.000 You have the test now.

00:48:19.000 The judge knows this?

00:48:20.000 Yeah.

00:48:21.000 The judge, when they, the Rittenhouse defense filed a motion for mistrial with prejudice because it had, but they did that before deliberations even started.

00:48:29.000 Right.

00:48:29.000 But now we're a day into deliberations and they came back on day two and said we'll take a mistrial with no prejudice.

00:48:36.000 So the judge has to know they're sweating.

00:48:39.000 Yeah, he knows and the odds have changed.

00:48:41.000 So the way things are going now, you think, let's roll again, we have everybody on the record now, all the evidence that the prosecutor had hid we have, it can only get better for the defense in a second trial.

00:48:54.000 So if I'm them, I'm thinking, it can only get better for us if we retry this mofo.

00:49:00.000 It can only get better for us.

00:49:01.000 There's a lot of mistakes they made.

00:49:02.000 The defense?

00:49:03.000 The defense.

00:49:04.000 The defense.

00:49:05.000 I think they did fairly well.

00:49:07.000 I think the state screwed up royally, but that means the defense has all of that knowledge

00:49:12.000 of their screw-ups.

00:49:13.000 They know the state's weaknesses and the things on the stand that really screwed them up.

00:49:17.000 Wow.

00:49:17.000 They have that advantage.

00:49:18.000 And they can pull the jury when there's a mistrial.

00:49:21.000 So they can talk to the jurors who said, well, hey, you know, why did you think he was going

00:49:24.000 to say that?

00:49:25.000 Oh, wow.

00:49:26.000 They can do that?

00:49:27.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:49:28.000 Why?

00:49:29.000 Yeah.

00:49:30.000 You can pull the jury.

00:49:31.000 Oh, yeah.

00:49:32.000 Yeah.

00:49:33.000 So a lot of people, you can't do this in criminal trials because you can't afford them, but in big high injury, personal injury, they do mock trials and they bring in juries and then they say, well, you know, or they'll even have like buttons where they're like, if you think something's really good, like you push the button.

00:49:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:50.000 Because this is where there's tens of millions of dollars at stake, and if it's just your life, you know, it's just unfortunate.

00:49:55.000 So if they have a mistrial, does he go back in jail, or is he out on parole, on whatever it is?

00:50:00.000 He was out on bail, so he would remain out on bail.

00:50:02.000 They could talk to the jury, they could get a reshot.

00:50:06.000 It would only get better for defense.

00:50:08.000 So if I'm them, and I could get a mistrial without prejudice, I know that people are going to second guess me, but I take that in a second.

00:50:16.000 I gotta tell you, the reason why I don't think I could probably ever be on a jury is that there is almost, almost, no circumstance in which I would say guilty.

00:50:25.000 Okay, can I jump in here?

00:50:27.000 Now, I'm not allowed to say this, so I'm gonna tap dance a little about it.

00:50:27.000 Yeah.

00:50:31.000 There's something called Grand Jury, and what Grand Jury is, is like I think 25 or 30 people, you're impaneled for two weeks, and you all have to sit in, and this is where you get charges put forward.

00:50:42.000 Like they say, a Grand Jury will indict a hand sandwich. 0.85

00:50:44.000 I said to them, this part I can't say, I'm an anarchist, I won't convict under any circumstances.

00:50:51.000 They said, too bad, you're on the grand jury.

00:50:53.000 I'm like, alright, now that I'm under these circumstances, I have to work within the system.

00:50:58.000 It is very easy, I'm giving this advice to everyone, especially on drug charges, juries want to be led.

00:51:05.000 So if you are in a possibility of being in a jury, and you say to people, look, we have no duty to convict, Do you really want to ruin this kid's life because he had some weed or was selling some weed?

00:51:16.000 That's going to be on your conscience.

00:51:18.000 Then talk about slavery and how... I made this up.

00:51:22.000 Like, you know, they wouldn't convict on slave charges back in the day. 1.00

00:51:24.000 Probably didn't, but I was pulling out of my ass. 0.99

00:51:27.000 And you'd be amazed Interesting. 0.99

00:51:29.000 if people are to letting people walk when someone makes a coaching case for them and

00:51:34.000 when that DA walks back in the room and you say we're not returning any charges, they're

00:51:39.000 baffled but all it takes is that one person on that grand jury to sway everybody else

00:51:43.000 and make a coaching argument.

00:51:44.000 But it's not just that people want to be swayed, it's that many are NPCs.

00:51:48.000 A lot of people are there like I don't want to be here, I gotta go to work, the game's

00:51:51.000 But they do want to do the right thing, for sure.

00:51:53.000 And your job is to tell them what that is.

00:51:55.000 As a leader, when you say, we should not return an indictment.

00:51:58.000 So my point was, if I'm on a jury, and they say, you know, like, here's a guy who was in his home, he defended himself, and the state says, we think that he actually intended to commit harm, I'd be like, not guilty.

00:52:13.000 Because I'm not I'm like very similar to your ideology However, I say almost none because if I'm gonna jury and it's very very.

00:52:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:52:21.000 Yeah, very clear-cut like Rosenbaum I'd be like guilty guilty guilty or there's cases where like if someone like literally raped or killed someone it's it's well It depends if there's victimless In New Hampshire I've heard stories about the Free State Project whenever they have gatherings that whenever they find out someone has jury duty they all celebrate and get really happy because they know it's an opportunity to nullify whatever laws they don't believe in personally and you know a lot of people they get the jury duty notice they're like oh crap I don't want to do this they feel bad about this but you have an opportunity to raise your voice and actually make an argument that could have severe ramifications

00:52:57.000 And I will never convict on a drug charge.

00:52:59.000 No matter what.

00:52:59.000 There's a thing called victimless crimes.

00:53:01.000 Do the research on it.

00:53:02.000 Do the homework on it.

00:53:03.000 Because if there isn't a victim, there's no reason the state should be going after individuals.

00:53:07.000 And I will never convict on a drug charge.

00:53:10.000 No matter what.

00:53:11.000 Yeah.

00:53:12.000 My body, my choice.

00:53:13.000 The judge could say, if the state has proven their case that this man was in possession

00:53:16.000 of axe, you must return a guilty verdict.

00:53:19.000 And I'll say, no, I won't.

00:53:20.000 You don't have to.

00:53:20.000 No, you won't.

00:53:21.000 When people give like very addictive drugs to children, I get a little nervous because I'm pretty wide open on drugs.

00:53:27.000 Kids are different.

00:53:28.000 That's why I say almost.

00:53:31.000 I would say in the instance of fentanyl, if someone is giving fentanyl to people and he knows they're dying.

00:53:36.000 But that's poisoning them.

00:53:37.000 That's not giving them drugs. 1.00

00:53:38.000 No, no, no.

00:53:39.000 I mean, that's why it's hard.

00:53:41.000 It's easy to say never.

00:53:42.000 Nope, nope, no, no, no, no.

00:53:44.000 Lydia, that's not a drug charge.

00:53:45.000 That's a murder charge.

00:53:46.000 That's interesting that you consider fentanyl, especially in large doses, a poison.

00:53:49.000 It's poison, not a dope.

00:53:50.000 Yeah, like Ian, if I gave you a soda but it's really got arsenic in it, this isn't a drug charge.

00:53:54.000 Exactly.

00:53:54.000 Arsenic's not a drug.

00:53:55.000 But arsenic is a drug.

00:53:56.000 There's a victim.

00:53:56.000 That's what's different.

00:53:59.000 In almost any circumstance where a person chooses, I would probably not convict.

00:54:03.000 Oh, of course.

00:54:04.000 Children are different.

00:54:05.000 Victimless crimes are almost a guarantee of life.

00:54:08.000 If this person was in possession of this, I'd be like, I don't care.

00:54:11.000 There's also informed consent.

00:54:13.000 So if a person wants to take fentanyl, that is that person's right.

00:54:17.000 It's his body.

00:54:18.000 But they shouldn't.

00:54:18.000 It's his choice.

00:54:19.000 Yeah, they of course shouldn't.

00:54:20.000 But if someone puts it in a substance and the other person doesn't know about it, that's a victim.

00:54:25.000 That's a crime.

00:54:26.000 That's obviously something that should be punished.

00:54:29.000 And someone should be held accountable for their individual actions.

00:54:32.000 I'll put it this way.

00:54:34.000 In questions of individual choice, those kinds of trials, and I'm almost never going, you'd never get me to convict on anything.

00:54:41.000 And this is a great opportunity for everyone to save a life.

00:54:44.000 Not only that, that's true, but with Kyle Rittenhouse, you know why there's no argument they could make in court to convince me to convict?

00:54:52.000 I'm not saying you can't convince me that Kyle was wrong, I certainly don't think he was wrong, Yes.

00:54:56.000 Right.

00:54:57.000 shouldn't have been there for sure, but I believe he was defending himself.

00:54:57.000 Yes.

00:54:57.000 Especially when he's a kid.

00:55:00.000 And I think there are a lot of issues at play.

00:55:02.000 But the reason I would never convict almost ever on a self-defense issue is because it

00:55:06.000 is better that 100 guilty persons go free than one innocent person suffer.

00:55:10.000 Yes, especially when he's a kid.

00:55:12.000 Yeah, I look, I understand the risks.

00:55:16.000 I understand the risks of releasing 100 guilty persons, but I will not be party to a system that imprisons the innocent.

00:55:22.000 The thing is, releasing guilty people is what happened.

00:55:25.000 He's fighting off pedophiles and assailants.

00:55:28.000 Yeah.

00:55:29.000 Yep.

00:55:30.000 Yeah, Rosenbaum was released that day.

00:55:32.000 Well, so there's a question about that.

00:55:33.000 Some people have said he was in a mental hospital.

00:55:35.000 But some people are saying they can't find the records of that and they haven't found the documentation proving that.

00:55:41.000 Some people say it was a jail, but again, it's still very unclear.

00:55:44.000 Either way, my view is like, I think it's shocking to me how inhuman our legal system has become.

00:55:52.000 But it's always been this way, Tim.

00:55:54.000 Sort of.

00:55:55.000 Yes, I agree with you to a great degree, but when we had a very, very small, when our communities were very, very small and everyone knew each other, it was very different.

00:56:03.000 Judge Smith was not sending Walter's kid to prison for the rest of his life because he was in possession.

00:56:08.000 He's gonna be like, aren't you Billy- aren't you Walter's kid?

00:56:10.000 What are you doing coming down here with this stuff?

00:56:13.000 If I see your- I see your dad down at the pub, I'm gonna tell him what for.

00:56:16.000 We're giving you probation or whatever.

00:56:18.000 Today, the cop walks over and says, I don't know you, I don't care, tell the judge.

00:56:21.000 Big city.

00:56:22.000 That's what- what happens when- It's a problem with density.

00:56:23.000 When the prosecutor- if the prosecutor were to find evidence of- of innocence, would they- would they still go for the guilty verdict?

00:56:30.000 Or are they- do they have a duty to be like- Well, that's called the Brady violation.

00:56:33.000 So, that- that again goes to I don't want to go too far in the weeds with you guys, but there are two different ways to do this.

00:56:43.000 One is, constitutionally, the prosecutor has to disclose any evidence that could go to guilt or mitigation at sentencing.

00:56:50.000 So if they know you're innocent, they have a duty to do it.

00:56:53.000 Some states have what is called the open file law.

00:56:56.000 So if you're a prosecutor, you just have to give your file to the defense.

00:57:00.000 That way you can't say, well, I don't think this piece of evidence is really going to be what's called exculpatory evidence.

00:57:07.000 It's not exculpatory.

00:57:08.000 So you don't even give them that choice.

00:57:09.000 And most people like me advocate open.

00:57:12.000 Well, most people who are civil libertarians advocate open files.

00:57:15.000 Whatever you have, you have to give over the fence, right?

00:57:17.000 Because your duty is to do justice.

00:57:19.000 The myth is that if you're a lawyer and you're suing me in a litigation case, your job is only to your client.

00:57:28.000 You don't owe anything to me, but the idea is prosecutors have a duty to quote-unquote do justice.

00:57:32.000 It's all fake.

00:57:33.000 You know what's sad?

00:57:33.000 What you're saying, though, is it's always been bad.

00:57:37.000 Yeah.

00:57:37.000 It's always been bad.

00:57:38.000 But you know what's sad to me?

00:57:41.000 Prosecutors are supposed to... aren't they supposed to seek justice? 0.99

00:57:44.000 That's the point of prosecution?

00:57:45.000 Right.

00:57:46.000 Then they have grand juries, which is, okay, we're going to impanel regular people to see if they agree we should bring charges, and it's all broken.

00:57:53.000 Yeah.

00:57:54.000 Well, there's another aspect to this.

00:57:56.000 When people go to jail, they come out way worse.

00:57:59.000 Jail is usually a university for criminals where they learn how to do more criminal activities and network with other people, and they come out of that place a lot worse than they came in, and they become more destructive towards society, and it's a cycle where they keep going in and out, in and out, and the system not only tortures them, not only deprives them, and especially with the January 6th people who were sent to jail, the inhumane situations that they're put in, cells that are flooded with sewage, denied basic medical attention, denied even proper food, getting beaten by guards.

00:58:36.000 We're talking about a system that corrupts a human being and robs them of their life.

00:58:43.000 And again, there are some really bad people out there, they deserve punishment, but a lot of times what they get in the prison system is not that.

00:58:51.000 I think it's very unfortunate that when you talk about having better prison conditions for prisoners, a lot of people who are conservative be like, well, they shouldn't have done this, lock them up, throw away the key.

00:59:01.000 God help you if whatever this prosecutor's name decides you should be throwing away the key.

00:59:06.000 They're in jail right now.

00:59:07.000 They're called the January 6th people. 0.90

00:59:10.000 I don't like the idea of deserved punishment.

00:59:13.000 I don't like a justice system that is actually just a punishment or retribution system.

00:59:18.000 I look at people who do bad things and say, how can we make them not do a bad thing in the future and then welcome them back into the warm, loving bosom of society?

00:59:25.000 But then you guys were just saying that you define people by the lowest moment, though.

00:59:29.000 Right?

00:59:29.000 Some people, yes.

00:59:30.000 And some people go to prison.

00:59:31.000 Right.

00:59:32.000 But that's the whole idea, though, is in a way...

00:59:36.000 You have to choose.

00:59:37.000 Do you want retribution?

00:59:40.000 Do you want redemption?

00:59:41.000 How do you find redemption?

00:59:44.000 I'm not saying it's a zero-sum game.

00:59:46.000 Some people are not worthy of redemption.

00:59:48.000 And I think we can try, or we can say of people like Rosenbaum who committed atrocities, we say this guy should probably be locked up forever.

00:59:55.000 Because look what happens when someone like that does get released.

00:59:58.000 Well that's why if you asked me and other people, like, you know, people have thought about these issues, we send way too many people to prison, but we don't send violent criminals away long enough.

01:00:09.000 Right.

01:00:10.000 Exactly.

01:00:10.000 Right.

01:00:11.000 Yeah.

01:00:11.000 It's wrong in both ways.

01:00:13.000 It's like we gotta sharpen the curve, you know, the very violent get more time and most people get less.

01:00:16.000 Yeah, QAnon, you know, QAnon Shaolin is gonna do, did more time than that Well, he got charged for 41 months, uh, as of today.

01:00:24.000 Sentenced?

01:00:26.000 Well, in addition, he got 51 months because 10 was time served in solitary confinement.

01:00:29.000 He was in solitary?

01:00:31.000 Yeah, 10 months.

01:00:32.000 No, they completely broke him.

01:00:34.000 Torture.

01:00:34.000 There's no other way to put it.

01:00:36.000 Yeah, solitary confinement is torture.

01:00:38.000 So check this out.

01:00:39.000 So we do have this story.

01:00:39.000 This is from Daily Mail.

01:00:41.000 I have no excuse as it was indefensible, contrite QAnon shaman Jacob Chansley is sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the Capitol riots. 0.99

01:00:49.000 41 months, and I will tell you this, there's one reason why he got 41 months.

01:00:52.000 Because he wore horns.

01:00:54.000 And you think I'm joking, I'm not joking.

01:00:55.000 Seriously?

01:00:55.000 It was iconic photography.

01:00:58.000 It was iconic to see.

01:00:59.000 He was a symbol, yes.

01:00:59.000 That's what the prosecutor was arguing.

01:01:01.000 That he's a symbol of the insurrection?

01:01:03.000 Exactly.

01:01:03.000 Yep.

01:01:04.000 So there were people there who were shoving against cops, who were violent and attacking, and that I get. 1.00

01:01:10.000 Arrest them.

01:01:10.000 Charge them.

01:01:11.000 You committed a crime.

01:01:12.000 But there were people who bumbled in, who were walking around, doors open by the police.

01:01:16.000 And many of these people are getting charged.

01:01:18.000 But it's worse than that.

01:01:19.000 It's the torture that's going on in the jails.

01:01:22.000 For any one of these individuals, it's wrong.

01:01:24.000 And it was that woman, I think, in Alaska, right?

01:01:26.000 The feds raided her home. 0.87

01:01:28.000 The overreach on this is insane.

01:01:30.000 It's the expansion of the Capitol Police nationwide.

01:01:32.000 What the Biden administration's DOJ has been doing across the board has been nightmarishly corrupt.

01:01:38.000 But I want to make sure we focus on the torture.

01:01:40.000 How do you get a guy who's wearing horns and he bumbles and he goes, rah, and then he leaves?

01:01:44.000 41 months.

01:01:45.000 51, yeah.

01:01:47.000 51?

01:01:47.000 Oh, I see.

01:01:48.000 Did you hear what Enrique Tarrio said?

01:01:48.000 No.

01:01:48.000 Oh, I see.

01:01:49.000 Yeah.

01:01:50.000 No, no, I guess the prosecutor wanted 51.

01:01:52.000 He got 41.

01:01:53.000 And he'll get time served for the 10 months he did.

01:01:55.000 Did you hear what Enrique Tarrio said?

01:01:57.000 No.

01:01:58.000 Enrique Tarrio, chairman of the Proud Boys, is in jail because he confessed to tearing

01:02:03.000 down a Black Lives Matter banner and then burning it.

01:02:06.000 And I think he got only a few months.

01:02:08.000 Six months.

01:02:09.000 Oh my gosh.

01:02:17.000 There was a letter written by him that came out that people could read and they could see what he's going through right now.

01:02:23.000 I don't want to put words in his mouth.

01:02:24.000 I think he said it very eloquently in his letter and I think people should read it to bring attention to this.

01:02:30.000 Six months for that charge.

01:02:31.000 Compare that to all the rioting and crazy stuff that we know the FBI has drone surveillance footage of.

01:02:37.000 Gage Grosskreutz.

01:02:37.000 Exactly.

01:02:38.000 Gage Grosskreutz goes to a riot in Kenosha with a gun he's not legally allowed to possess.

01:02:45.000 I think by, I'll say this to you Michael, I believe he has the right to, the constitutional right, the human right to, but Yeah.

01:02:51.000 reasons and we're arguing law enforcement he wasn't allowed to have it

01:02:54.000 what happens the prosecutor instructs the detectives not to execute a signed

01:02:58.000 search warrant against his phone he gets drunk driving charges

01:03:01.000 dismissed just before the trial and he's getting no charges when they know he

01:03:06.000 lied to the police that's obstruction they know his gun he was not allowed to

01:03:10.000 have concealed because his permit was invalid no charges but Enrique Tarrio

01:03:15.000 well he turned he vandalized something now I say look vandalism is bad you

01:03:18.000 shouldn't tear down someone's banner and burn it that's theft of property and

01:03:21.000 destruction right and it's disproportionate this also speaks to

01:03:25.000 this kind of ridiculous idea of equality before the law which has never existed

01:03:29.000 and can never exist because everyone knows it's an absolute given that a

01:03:33.000 district attorney will cut a deal with someone who's lower on the totem pole

01:03:36.000 in the hopes of getting a better person. So if there was equality before the law, people would be treated and prosecuted

01:03:41.000 equally.

01:03:41.000 But they are perfectly willing and able on a daily basis to say,

01:03:44.000 we know you committed these crimes, you're getting away with it, just as long as you cooperate with us.

01:03:49.000 Do you think that if everyone was treated equally under the law, that inevitably everyone that gets a certain position

01:03:54.000 of power would do something illegal and be taken down, and the

01:03:57.000 system just couldn't function?

01:03:58.000 Like, the CIA is illegal.

01:04:00.000 Its whole purpose is to do illegal things in secret.

01:04:03.000 I don't think the system is in a position to enforce itself.

01:04:06.000 I just had this tweet today, like, the Supreme Court has to go through the Senate, right?

01:04:11.000 For confirmation.

01:04:12.000 So it's basically like asking prisoners to choose their own corrections officers.

01:04:16.000 Are they going to pick corrections officers that are going to restrict their freedoms, or are they going to pick the COs that let them do whatever the heck you want? 1.00

01:04:21.000 And that's exactly what you see with the Senate and the Supreme Court, where the Supreme Court gives them basically a blank check to do whatever they like.

01:04:27.000 To be fair, the President, you know, nominates them, and then it has to go to the Senate for confirmation, so they don't just get to choose whoever they want, they have to agree and say, we'll accept Right, but they are giving the rubber stamp.

01:04:39.000 They're not going to give the rubber stamp on someone, historically speaking, who's going to tell them you at Congress can't pass whatever laws you want.

01:04:46.000 Yeah, but also we have way too many laws.

01:04:48.000 We have way too much of a bureaucracy.

01:04:51.000 According to Harvard University professor Harvey Silvergate, he estimates that on average the American each day commits three felonies a day.

01:05:01.000 I don't buy that.

01:05:02.000 Yes, come on. 0.89

01:05:03.000 Three felonies a day.

01:05:05.000 Harvard University professor Harvey Silvergate came out with...

01:05:09.000 I don't buy that.

01:05:10.000 Come on.

01:05:11.000 Well, it's called over-criminalization.

01:05:12.000 I do.

01:05:14.000 There's been a lot of research on it.

01:05:15.000 So let's just say, for example, you dump your gray water tank in a parking lot.

01:05:22.000 they could come up with an environmental regulation violation into that and turn something that would be

01:05:27.000 you know at most a civil offense with a fine and they could cook that up so there's laws about junk

01:05:33.000 mail there's laws about all kinds of things that would really surprise you and it's all about what

01:05:40.000 they can get away with and and you could be like you know just like a regular old high school

01:05:44.000 teacher who takes an rv out to the desert to cook some blue meth and all of a sudden you get the dea

01:05:49.000 You get a TV show made about you.

01:05:51.000 Is that, did that say your average person commits three felonies per day?

01:05:54.000 Yeah, so that would mean that some people might do nine and then two other people might do zero.

01:06:02.000 Lying on your resume is technically wire fraud because you commit fraud because you're trying to get money or a thing of value from an employer.

01:06:11.000 You transmit it via interstate commerce via the internet.

01:06:15.000 So that's technically wire fraud.

01:06:17.000 Wow.

01:06:17.000 I wasn't that sheathed underwear model.

01:06:19.000 They used a body double.

01:06:23.000 They got this really fit little person.

01:06:25.000 I love it.

01:06:28.000 No, that's why lawyers are always, you know, paranoid because you realize that if they want to get you, like the way I describe it to people is if they want to get you, they will, but don't give them your head.

01:06:39.000 Yeah.

01:06:40.000 Because people do a lot of reckless things.

01:06:42.000 So, for example, I didn't even go to DC on January 6th, because in the back of my mind, I said, I bet you they'll cook up something.

01:06:50.000 They'll cook up something against me if I'm even there.

01:06:53.000 Because that's the lawyer in me.

01:06:55.000 And then, you know, a lot of people, they just walked in.

01:06:59.000 Well, technically, those people didn't violate the law, because trespass requires that you know that you're not supposed to be there.

01:07:04.000 You get a warning.

01:07:05.000 Yeah, and if you're, if you were just some, like, maggorube who came out from Ohio because you believe in QAnon, you don't, you don't know, if you're not pushing forward, you're just, like, following the model. 0.94

01:07:17.000 The police opened the door for them.

01:07:18.000 Took selfies with them.

01:07:19.000 Yeah, so they didn't actually break the law because they didn't have notice that they weren't supposed to be there.

01:07:23.000 It doesn't really matter.

01:07:25.000 So they will, or like they did with James O'Keefe, it sounds like they're trying to cook up something against him.

01:07:31.000 Even though he didn't do anything illegal.

01:07:34.000 But they'll cook it up.

01:07:35.000 Well, you add three felonies a day with the constant surveillance that happens on the average American with almost everything being tracked, traced, and database with the FBI using their counter-terrorism division to investigate parents who go to PTA meetings.

01:07:51.000 When you add all of that up, you have a recipe of disaster.

01:07:53.000 You have essentially the KGB going after political dissidents who of course disagree with the current political structure and dare challenge the narrative that they're trying to invoke onto everyone.

01:08:04.000 And look, conservatives are the law and order people.

01:08:07.000 Like, I was always a... Like, you can go back.

01:08:07.000 Forever.

01:08:11.000 I was writing about this stuff 20 years ago.

01:08:12.000 This is just my wheelhouse. 0.99

01:08:14.000 And conservatives never gave a shit, you know, or never gave a crap. 0.99

01:08:19.000 And now suddenly they care, and they're like, oh, we're being unfairly treated. 0.99

01:08:22.000 No, you're not!

01:08:23.000 This is what happens to people charged with federal offenses.

01:08:26.000 This is what happens to everyone.

01:08:28.000 Oh, the January 6th people are being treated differently than the rioters.

01:08:32.000 Dude, everybody who goes to that federal system gets cooked.

01:08:36.000 They say you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride.

01:08:39.000 They'll grind you down, destroy your life.

01:08:42.000 That's what they do to everybody.

01:08:43.000 They've got infinite money.

01:08:44.000 It's your tax money.

01:08:45.000 There's that old line about how a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested.

01:08:48.000 A conservative is a liberal who's been arrested, but a liberal is a... Hold on.

01:08:53.000 A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, and a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested.

01:09:00.000 What happens if you've been mugged and arrested?

01:09:01.000 Cause I've been both.

01:09:02.000 Have you?

01:09:03.000 I've been mugged and arrested.

01:09:04.000 I think you're a moderate at this point.

01:09:05.000 Yeah.

01:09:05.000 Were you mugged in Chicago?

01:09:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:07.000 I was, uh, a guy, well, so a guy tried mugging me and I just left.

01:09:11.000 And like, he was, so a guy comes up next to me, he's like 6'6", 6'7", he's this tall blonde dude.

01:09:16.000 And I was in Lincoln Park, and I'm crossing the street, and he's like, hey, how's it going, man?

01:09:20.000 How's it going?

01:09:21.000 How's it going?

01:09:22.000 And I was like, good, good.

01:09:23.000 And he goes, awesome, awesome.

01:09:24.000 So why don't you give me the money that you have?

01:09:25.000 Give me the money that you have right now, because I've got a knife on me, and I want to do the right thing, and you want to do the right thing, and we don't got to get things bad.

01:09:30.000 And I started laughing.

01:09:31.000 And then I was like, yeah, okay, I don't have any money. 1.00

01:09:33.000 And he goes, you think I'm stupid? 0.99

01:09:34.000 You think I don't know? 0.99

01:09:36.000 And so I pulled out my empty wallet, and I'm like, here's my no money, and I put it back.

01:09:39.000 As I'm walking, I'm like, not facing, I'm just keep walking.

01:09:42.000 And he's like, I told you I have a knife, and I know you got your money in your shoe.

01:09:44.000 And I started laughing again.

01:09:46.000 We crossed the street, and we walked about a half block, when all of a sudden a cop grabs him, like a plainclothes anti-crime cop.

01:09:52.000 Slams him up against a wrought iron fence and screams, not in my town!

01:09:56.000 True story.

01:09:56.000 I'm not kidding.

01:09:57.000 And then two beat cops run up and they said apparently that they had gotten like a report.

01:10:02.000 They saw the guy.

01:10:03.000 So when he went up to me and tried shaking me down, but my attitude in Chicago has always been like, you know, maybe it's from being depressed in that city.

01:10:11.000 You can't shake me down.

01:10:12.000 I'm just like, yo, it's Chicago.

01:10:15.000 The high school fights that were near my neighborhood ended with gunshots.

01:10:18.000 You come up to me and tell me you want money, and I'm like, this is not the worst thing I've ever run from.

01:10:23.000 But I wanted to get into the Fed overreach and all that stuff, because we briefly mentioned James O'Keefe.

01:10:30.000 Guys, I got a conspiracy theory for you.

01:10:33.000 You ready for a conspiracy theory?

01:10:35.000 I think you will agree with me on the plausibility of this conspiracy theory.

01:10:39.000 That James O'Keefe was investigating the FBI so they raided him to try and seize the evidence.

01:10:46.000 Let me lay out my case.

01:10:48.000 Oh, this is a no-brainer.

01:10:50.000 Right, the FBI raids James O'Keefe and Project Veritas, and James himself, and his home, and his journalists.

01:10:57.000 They claim it's over some diary that he turned over to the law enforcement a long time ago.

01:11:01.000 So this is... what are they searching for?

01:11:03.000 A diary he gave away already? Okay.

01:11:05.000 Within an hour or so of the raid, the New York Times calls for comment

01:11:08.000 on some of these journalists, meaning someone tipped off the New York Times.

01:11:12.000 Information, electronic devices were seized from James O'Keefe.

01:11:16.000 Privileged legal communications were then leaked to the New York Times.

01:11:19.000 It is widely believed the FBI were leaking privileged communications to the New York Times.

01:11:24.000 The New York Times stated that in those communications, James O'Keefe was discussing with his lawyer the extent to which they could undercover record federal law enforcement.

01:11:33.000 On October 20th, I believe it was, an FBI whistleblower sent documents to the Republicans outlining how Merrick Garland was using counter-terror tactics against parents.

01:11:44.000 Right.

01:11:45.000 The FBI must have found out, and this is my theory, my hypothesis, that they had a leaker within the Bureau, and that James O'Keefe, I believe they knew someone was communicating with him, but they didn't know what he was giving.

01:11:57.000 So they said, we can't let him release this.

01:12:01.000 So they raided him under false pretext, seized his communications, activists within the Bureau said, give it to the New York Times and destroy them.

01:12:09.000 That's my theory.

01:12:10.000 I would even add that they probably were the ones that gave him the diary in the first place since this diary was going around.

01:12:16.000 And they didn't expect... A honey trap.

01:12:18.000 Yeah, they didn't expect them to give it to law enforcement, which Project Veritas did.

01:12:22.000 They didn't run with the story.

01:12:23.000 And I just think they were extremely desperate.

01:12:26.000 This isn't even a conspiracy theory at this point, I don't think.

01:12:29.000 This all makes perfect sense to me.

01:12:31.000 Like the fact that this got leaked when it did.

01:12:34.000 The fact that they raided his house.

01:12:35.000 The fact that he didn't even have the diary.

01:12:37.000 But they assumed he would because I guess that's what they would have done if they'd been in his position.

01:12:42.000 This is not a conspiracy theory to me.

01:12:44.000 This just sounds to me like what happened.

01:12:47.000 So I don't know when the leak happened, so this is a correction.

01:12:50.000 Fox News reports, an October 20th internal email from the FBI's Criminal and Counterterror Divisions released Tuesday by House Republicans instructed agents to apply the threat tag EduOfficials to all investigations and assessments of threats directed specifically at education officials.

01:13:04.000 Could it be?

01:13:04.000 And I'll issue an update and correction.

01:13:07.000 It wasn't that the FBI whistleblower sent the information on the 20th.

01:13:11.000 What if this FBI whistleblower went to Veritas first, following the raid by the FBI earlier this month?

01:13:18.000 The whistleblower then brought it to the Republicans.

01:13:20.000 Interesting.

01:13:21.000 I think the FBI went after James O'Keefe because they were scared that O'Keefe had information on them.

01:13:25.000 And I will stress, the New York Times said in the legal communications that Veritas was asking about the extent to which they could secretly record FBI agents.

01:13:33.000 Yeah, I think this is legit, dude.

01:13:36.000 I mean, it's still a conspiracy theory.

01:13:37.000 Speculative, speculative.

01:13:38.000 I gotta say it, because there's no evidence, or well, there's some, I guess you could call it evidence, but there's no proof in any way.

01:13:43.000 So we're still theorizing, but I mean, geez.

01:13:45.000 James knows.

01:13:45.000 That's what the FBI does.

01:13:46.000 James would know.

01:13:47.000 Didn't they, in, James might know, when they, didn't they set up the whole, what was it, the Michigan governor?

01:13:54.000 Yeah, Whitmer, yeah.

01:13:55.000 The FBI plainly like, I don't know if they admitted to it or what, but they were like forced causing that to happen.

01:14:00.000 You have... Before social media, if this was 20 years ago, all of this would sound ridiculous and crazy.

01:14:08.000 Well, now there's enough evidence in a paper trail that people are like, all right, this is plausible.

01:14:11.000 Well, 20 years ago we had the FBI scandal with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which also put them in a very questionable situation.

01:14:20.000 So when you look at the history of the FBI, Colonel Tell Probe, and all the other things that they have done, there's a long history of doing things that were absolutely illegal in the name of fighting the law.

01:14:33.000 So this is nothing new what the FBI has been up to throughout their entire existence anyway.

01:14:38.000 This is a scary and nightmarish reality, you know?

01:14:42.000 It's like we were in the Matrix the whole time.

01:14:45.000 You know, you're talking about how 20 years ago we went to figure this out, but the internet basically, for lack of a better term, red-pilled everybody.

01:14:51.000 Yes!

01:14:52.000 Now they're all watching it happen from the outside like, oh dear lord, this is horrifying.

01:14:56.000 Yeah.

01:14:58.000 I feel like the humanity's been under the boot since the beginning, and then the Founding Fathers were like, yo, the war, they didn't actually, well, Washington fought, but That sacrifice to kind of get us out from under the boot.

01:15:10.000 But at what point did they put the boot?

01:15:11.000 They all sacrificed.

01:15:13.000 They all did.

01:15:14.000 Each and every one of them.

01:15:14.000 Ben Franklin's son joined the British.

01:15:16.000 Oh, of course they sacrificed.

01:15:18.000 They staked their, what do they say, their blood, their treasure, and their sacred honor or whatever.

01:15:23.000 There was one Founding Father's wife was taken prisoner to be used in a prisoner exchange.

01:15:28.000 A good majority of their homes were under British occupation.

01:15:30.000 Shout out to all the Founding Mothers, man.

01:15:32.000 Just think about this.

01:15:34.000 The signers of the Declaration of Independence who sat down and could have just went, guys, it's a tax, it sucks, But I want to make sure my kids have food, so I'm not going to war.

01:15:45.000 And I will throw it to Mel Gibson in one of the best movies ever, The Patriot, where he says... Is that the one where he is with the beaver?

01:15:52.000 The beaver?

01:15:53.000 The Patriot is a long movie about him getting revenge for the British soldiers killing his kid.

01:15:59.000 Amazing movie.

01:16:01.000 And he's in South Carolina.

01:16:02.000 He's in, I think, Charleston.

01:16:03.000 And he says, if you're asking me if I think taxation without representation is wrong, I agree with you. 1.00

01:16:08.000 But if you're asking me to go to war with England, I say no.

01:16:12.000 And then the British go to his house, seeking out rebel soldiers.

01:16:17.000 He's tending aid to all of them.

01:16:19.000 And his son was a rider for the American revolutionaries, so he's like, who is this man?

01:16:24.000 Who are these orders?

01:16:25.000 And then Mel Gibson, one of his kids, he's got a bunch of kids, runs to try and save the older brothers being arrested, and the British officer shoots and kills him.

01:16:33.000 Mel Gibson then uses his American frontier war training and goes on like a one man, not a one man, he has like a

01:16:41.000 group of militiamen and he goes and starts raiding the British.

01:16:44.000 But anyway, I digress. That was an excellent scene.

01:16:47.000 Where you see a guy who doesn't want to fight, he doesn't want to go to war,

01:16:51.000 then I think back to the Founding Fathers and what really happened.

01:16:54.000 They all said from young ages of like, what, 26 to like 50s or whatever,

01:16:58.000 I will say to the king, I declare war on you.

01:17:02.000 And you know what's funny?

01:17:03.000 You know what's really funny?

01:17:04.000 And I say funny and not in a ha-ha way.

01:17:06.000 They knew, they believed we'd lose.

01:17:08.000 The Founding Fathers thought war with Britain would never play off and they would lose.

01:17:12.000 But the French intervention saved us. 0.62

01:17:15.000 So these were guys who were like, I am so pissed off at them quartering in our homes, taking our belongings, Telling us we can't defend ourselves.

01:17:24.000 That I am willing to say I will fight you and lose.

01:17:27.000 Even if it means my children.

01:17:28.000 And at the time, England had the biggest military in the world.

01:17:32.000 They were the biggest might.

01:17:33.000 They were the biggest power.

01:17:35.000 And that movie, along with Braveheart, tells a very similar story.

01:17:39.000 Absolutely has your blood pumping and motivates you and really shows you the larger consequences of what is routine in human history.

01:17:48.000 And it's not an exception to the rule.

01:17:50.000 It is the rule.

01:17:50.000 And the other thing that they're not taught in a high school civics class is how what a huge percentage of the American population were loyalists.

01:17:57.000 That's right. That they wanted nothing to do with this nonsense. We're loyal British subjects. Shut the f up

01:18:02.000 George Washington. Leave us alone You're making we're not revolutionaries. This is crazy. So 0.99

01:18:07.000 victory is never a function of persuading the majority They're always gonna follow the leaders

01:18:12.000 So I've read I've tried to do a lot of I've done a decent amount of research not a historian probably people know

01:18:16.000 better than Me on the percentages of so yeah, I've looked into it

01:18:20.000 There's a famous misconception where, I think it was Ben Franklin, someone said, a third are loyalists, a third want independence, and a third want to be left alone.

01:18:30.000 But that's not actual numbers.

01:18:32.000 So I looked it up, and the best assessment I could find is that the plurality wanted nothing to do with anyone.

01:18:40.000 Yeah.

01:18:40.000 Loyalists.

01:18:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:41.000 said shut up and leave me alone and go away. The next largest group was in like 1.00

01:18:45.000 the 30 percentile which said we want independence and then in the high

01:18:49.000 20th you know percentages were people saying long live the king. All that

01:18:54.000 mattered was those who actually cared. So the people who are uninitiated

01:18:58.000 said leave me alone abstained. The revolution won the vote basically.

01:19:03.000 And the other question about- this is really interesting.

01:19:05.000 When it came to voting on whether to declare independence, a lot of colonists were- they were British.

01:19:10.000 They all considered themselves British.

01:19:11.000 They said, by what authority do you declare independence in the name of our state?

01:19:16.000 They said, who elected you to go there and say you're a representative of a free state of Virginia?

01:19:21.000 They just did this.

01:19:22.000 They were like ad hoc pop-ups of people being like, we hereby- we hereby declare.

01:19:27.000 And then they sent the letter to the king, and the king was like, But people need to understand that the revolution was over 20 years.

01:19:32.000 The British regulars were coming here and getting into conflicts and doing riot control and getting shot at and shooting back for decades.

01:19:39.000 So it wasn't just one day.

01:19:40.000 They said, we hereby declare independence.

01:19:42.000 Here's a letter.

01:19:42.000 And then the king said, send in the troops.

01:19:44.000 The troops were there.

01:19:45.000 They were fighting.

01:19:46.000 And then within, I think it was like 1865 is when sentiment started rising and we started seeing conflicts.

01:19:51.000 1865? 1765.

01:19:53.000 And then 1776 is when they're like, we are now asserting our independence outright.

01:19:58.000 Over 20 years, this process took place.

01:20:01.000 And then it was, what, another decade or so before the Bill of Rights?

01:20:03.000 You're right.

01:20:04.000 So it was a long time.

01:20:05.000 But it's also funny when it's like, the king gets the declaration, he's like, that's it, I'm sending in the troops.

01:20:08.000 Like, one month later.

01:20:09.000 Because he got away from it to cross the Atlantic.

01:20:12.000 No, no, but check this out.

01:20:13.000 I talk about this quite a bit.

01:20:15.000 They all gather.

01:20:17.000 So all these Founding Fathers are sending letters to each other, and it takes a few weeks for the letter to arrive in Virginia and then to go back.

01:20:23.000 So the communication around independence is taking years.

01:20:27.000 They have their Continental Congress, they have their meetings, and they say, OK, we're going to send a letter to the king with our list of demands, because they sent demand letters first, several.

01:20:36.000 How long did it take to get back to the king?

01:20:38.000 Three months?

01:20:39.000 By sale?

01:20:40.000 Then the king responds, three months later.

01:20:42.000 So six months for one question.

01:20:45.000 One question.

01:20:46.000 And then a year goes by, and then I'm like, I'm thinking, I've talked about how funny it is, you know, he's like, Thomas Jefferson says, we hereby declare independence, haha!

01:20:55.000 They fold it up, hand it to the guy, he gets on his horse, he rides to the boat.

01:20:58.000 Everyone goes back to work, they go farm, and they forget all about it.

01:21:01.000 And then a year later, a boat arrives and they're like, Look, big British vessels are coming and they're angry with

01:21:07.000 us for some reason.

01:21:08.000 Oh yeah, that letter! 0.98

01:21:11.000 Goddammit, Hancock! 0.86

01:21:12.000 It's like, no no, Thomas Jefferson is like, he's like, did I send a letter last night?

01:21:17.000 I was drunk.

01:21:18.000 We were all drunk.

01:21:20.000 I was with Sally in the barn.

01:21:22.000 The regulars show up, they're bombarding the coast and they're like, remember that night a year ago when we all got drunk and we're like, I think we should be independent.

01:21:31.000 I'm gonna write a letter.

01:21:32.000 Yeah, you write a letter to the king, you tell him.

01:21:34.000 And they all sign it and they're like, cheers!

01:21:36.000 I can't even read your signature.

01:21:38.000 Wait, you actually mailed it?

01:21:40.000 That was supposed to be a joke!

01:21:41.000 I thought you burned it.

01:21:42.000 We were just letting off steam.

01:21:44.000 Right, right, right.

01:21:45.000 You're supposed to not send the letter.

01:21:46.000 You write the letter, but don't send it.

01:21:47.000 That's therapy session.

01:21:50.000 I'm just imagining the king, like, three months later gets the Declaration of Independence, and he's like, they've already been acting as an independent country for three months, you know?

01:21:59.000 So then he's like, okay, I guess, you know, go quell the revolution.

01:22:02.000 And then he's like, what a coincidence this would be dated the same day as Independence Day.

01:22:06.000 That's right.

01:22:06.000 That was the weirdest part.

01:22:08.000 That was the weirdest part.

01:22:08.000 You know, my understanding is that Independence Day was July 2nd.

01:22:12.000 Right.

01:22:12.000 Nice.

01:22:13.000 Yeah.

01:22:13.000 Why did we choose the fourth?

01:22:13.000 I don't remember.

01:22:14.000 There's like this trivia thing they say.

01:22:16.000 Did you know that the signing was the second?

01:22:18.000 But it wasn't until like they... Oh, didn't they have to wait for a couple signers or something?

01:22:21.000 I don't remember.

01:22:22.000 I think it was like they mailed it out on the fourth or whatever or something like that.

01:22:27.000 I don't know if that's true, but I remember reading that there was a quote from, like, John Adams, where it's like, July 2nd will be the day that America declared independence, and it's July 4th.

01:22:33.000 So if we have the boot on the neck now, kind of riding the metaphor, is it like the global banking system?

01:22:38.000 And we're like, we will use Bitcoin and all crypto, and that's our way of saying we don't respect your authority, King George?

01:22:45.000 Yeah, I would say so, for sure.

01:22:46.000 Crypto, not using fiat money.

01:22:48.000 Yeah, I think people need to realize that as much as we can talk about the Founding Fathers saying, like, hurrah, and then taking up arms, we're not in that era anymore.

01:22:55.000 You know, first of all, we're joking about the time gap between sending a message.

01:22:58.000 Now you can literally be like, yo, we declare independence, MF, or ha-ha, and they'll get it instantly.

01:23:02.000 Anything's triggered, it all happens, everything's ready to go.

01:23:05.000 And they'll, like, EMF your phone.

01:23:06.000 Yeah, everything starts to trigger.

01:23:08.000 Fifth generational warfare is the most important point. 1.00

01:23:11.000 The liberty-minded individuals, whatever you want to call this group, have been winning because we've been very persuasive and peaceful.

01:23:17.000 When Black Lives Matter rioted, Black Lives Matter lost tons of support among the politically uninitiated.

01:23:23.000 When we start winning hearts and minds and change the culture, that's how we actually win, and you don't win by freaking people out with violence.

01:23:30.000 Violence is wrong.

01:23:31.000 So what effect did January 6th have on people?

01:23:34.000 Not the media, but the actual event.

01:23:35.000 It empowered the federal government to create a national capital police force and torture people, and you get 80 million people going like, oh no, an insurrection, and these politically uninitiated buy into it.

01:23:46.000 So I often tell people, there's this funny episode of Frasier I saw a long time ago.

01:23:49.000 I don't watch Frazier, but it was when I was a kid, where something happens where Frazier

01:23:53.000 is sitting down for coffee, he gets up, someone takes his seat, he gets angry and says, this

01:23:58.000 is my seat, I was sitting here, and the guy says, shove off.

01:24:01.000 Frazier, having a bad day, grabs him and throws him out of the seat.

01:24:04.000 Yeah, very angry.

01:24:05.000 So the guy comes back one day with like a neck brace and he's like, I'm suing you because

01:24:09.000 you accosted me.

01:24:10.000 And then Frazier's like, oh no, this is a big lawsuit.

01:24:13.000 At the end of the episode, he's at the cafe trying to apologize to the guy.

01:24:17.000 I could be getting the show wrong, but the gist of it is here.

01:24:19.000 He's trying to apologize to the guy, saying, look, I shouldn't have done that to you.

01:24:21.000 I'm really, really sorry.

01:24:22.000 Please drop the suit.

01:24:22.000 And the guy says, no.

01:24:24.000 And then Niles, Frasier's brother, gets up in between and says, you listen here, you cretin! 1.00

01:24:28.000 You don't do that, you know, to my brother, you imbecile! 1.00

01:24:31.000 And so the guy says, no, no, no, you listen to me! 1.00

01:24:33.000 And then pokes his chest lightly.

01:24:35.000 And then Niles goes, whoa, whoa!

01:24:37.000 And falls over and slams into a table full of, like, silverware.

01:24:41.000 And he goes, countersuit!

01:24:42.000 Countersuit! 0.99

01:24:43.000 Okay.

01:24:43.000 and then the guy drops his lawsuit. The point of that story is...

01:24:46.000 Niles goes to federal prison?

01:24:47.000 We're... No, no, the guy attacked him. He was like, I didn't do anything. And they're like, we all saw you

01:24:51.000 touch him. You pushed him.

01:24:52.000 So when you look at what's going on with Antifa violence, we might be upset that the feds aren't charging these

01:25:00.000 people, but rest assured, regular Americans saw all of that. And one by one, they

01:25:05.000 started figuring out what was going on.

01:25:06.000 Now, the media narrative was strong, and a lot of people didn't realize the truth about the Rittenhouse case, but now we're seeing the Young Turks, we're seeing Chris Hayes, we're seeing progressives.

01:25:17.000 Chris Hayes too?

01:25:17.000 Chris Hayes said, in all likelihood, he said, I've been looking at the case, and it looks like an acquittal in all honesty.

01:25:24.000 Wait, just because he's predicting acquittal doesn't mean he thinks the guy's not guilty.

01:25:27.000 No, no, no.

01:25:28.000 I'm not saying he said Reynolds is not guilty.

01:25:30.000 I'm saying his attitude is now he's gonna get acquitted versus he's just, you know, like he's put, like, it's a lightening on the narrative.

01:25:36.000 Got it.

01:25:36.000 Ana Kasparian said I was wrong about what happened.

01:25:38.000 Okay.

01:25:39.000 Progressives are tweeting, I didn't realize what had actually happened.

01:25:43.000 So the more we're persuasive, the more we're correct.

01:25:46.000 And the more that the corporate press is dishonest.

01:25:49.000 Yes.

01:25:49.000 Because if there's a big asymmetry, I make this point all the time, if I tell you, Tim, my friend,

01:25:54.000 like 10 truths and one lie, those are not equal weight, especially if the lies this egregious,

01:25:59.000 when there's this kid on trial who's 17 years old, who's crying, and then you're laughing at his PTSD.

01:26:05.000 That's right. So I think there are a lot of, I think most people want safety, security, peace.

01:26:10.000 They want to live their lives.

01:26:11.000 They want to pursue their goals.

01:26:12.000 And they're not really interested in politics.

01:26:15.000 And so when they see the mainstream media, the corporate press, say X, Y, and Z, they say, yeah, yeah, yeah, X, Y, and Z, I get it.

01:26:20.000 But then one day, X, Y, and Z don't equal one, two, and three, and they start getting confused.

01:26:24.000 Yes.

01:26:25.000 And it keeps piling on and piling on and piling on.

01:26:27.000 But when you get to January 6th, that reinforces the narrative from the corporate press, from the cathedral and the establishment.

01:26:34.000 So we need to make sure If we tell, if we are saying ten things, and we are all honest individuals trying our hardest, but we get one wrong, people will say, they made some bad predictions, but the stuff they said I found out to be true.

01:26:47.000 The media is an inversion of this.

01:26:49.000 They say ten things, and nine things are wrong, and people finally get fed up and say, this is BS, they're lying to me, and then they say, I come to you for a solution.

01:26:58.000 So we were talking about how you would weight something, like a moral weight, whether someone does something bad.

01:27:03.000 And Luke brought up Henry Kissinger.

01:27:05.000 And I was going to say, one of the things that we should take into account is whether or not this is a pattern.

01:27:10.000 And I would say that this is the same case with the media.

01:27:13.000 If they're making a pattern of lying to us egregiously about everything all the time, then they decide maybe they might throw in a truth every now and then.

01:27:21.000 We can say, you are full of Nonsense.

01:27:24.000 So what ends up happening?

01:27:25.000 Those uninitiated individuals who aren't paying attention are starting to ask questions about why their gas is so high.

01:27:30.000 Why they can't buy turkeys because the price of turkey is double.

01:27:33.000 And why are you telling me this is a good thing?

01:27:35.000 Right.

01:27:36.000 Oh, this is a rich people problem.

01:27:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:27:38.000 And then what happens?

01:27:39.000 A truck driver in New Jersey wins his election against the incumbent Democrat after only spending $153 because we're getting to the point where people will elect a ham sandwich over an establishment Democrat.

01:27:49.000 This also happened with Dave Ball when he took out Eric Cantor, the House Majority Leader at the time that no one saw coming.

01:27:53.000 When was that?

01:27:55.000 When was that?

01:27:55.000 That was during the Obama administration.

01:27:57.000 I'm sure someone can look it up.

01:27:59.000 I gotta sneak out, guys.

01:28:00.000 I got a birthday dinner with my wife.

01:28:02.000 Happy birthday, man!

01:28:03.000 Mike Cernovich!

01:28:05.000 How old are you?

01:28:06.000 Is that public knowledge?

01:28:07.000 Congratulations!

01:28:09.000 We got you a cake!

01:28:09.000 You gotta take the birthday cake with you.

01:28:12.000 Can we show the cake?

01:28:13.000 Please do.

01:28:14.000 I don't have it here.

01:28:15.000 It says at least you tried.

01:28:16.000 No, no, no.

01:28:18.000 I bought the cake.

01:28:18.000 Enjoy your retirement.

01:28:20.000 Yeah, I bought the cake.

01:28:21.000 It should be in the refrigerator.

01:28:22.000 Yeah, we can show it.

01:28:23.000 I'm going to have to grab it.

01:28:24.000 You got any plans for the next month or anything?

01:28:27.000 Just put the camera on Mike.

01:28:28.000 It's his birthday.

01:28:29.000 Grab the cake and walk it right over to him. 1.00

01:28:31.000 It's a nice cake.

01:28:32.000 This is Mike Cernovich.

01:28:32.000 It's his birthday.

01:28:33.000 Shout out to Luke Rutkowski for thinking of the cake.

01:28:35.000 A very thoughtful thank you.

01:28:36.000 Luke's a very thoughtful guy.

01:28:38.000 Thank you for coming and being a part of the show.

01:28:41.000 I bet you probably have a lot of lessons you've learned throughout the years.

01:28:44.000 You've been very prolific on Twitter.

01:28:47.000 Look at this!

01:28:49.000 What kind of cake is this?

01:28:50.000 We could light it too.

01:28:52.000 I don't know if anyone has a lighter.

01:28:53.000 That looks really good though.

01:28:54.000 I don't have one on me.

01:28:56.000 Oh that's cool.

01:28:57.000 Just hand it to him!

01:28:58.000 Take it!

01:28:58.000 Pick it up!

01:28:59.000 Hold it up! 1.00

01:28:59.000 Show the camera! 1.00

01:29:01.000 You got them all!

01:29:02.000 It's symbolic.

01:29:03.000 Oh, we could've lit it.

01:29:04.000 That would've been fun.

01:29:05.000 I still have good lungs.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, it was a good time, bros.

01:29:07.000 Thanks for having me.

01:29:08.000 Thanks for coming, man.

01:29:08.000 Happy birthday.

01:29:09.000 What kind of food are you gonna go get?

01:29:10.000 They're at a beer garden, I think.

01:29:11.000 Oh, nice.

01:29:12.000 I haven't been to one of those in years.

01:29:13.000 Well, we're gonna jump over to Super Chats.

01:29:15.000 You can slip out.

01:29:16.000 Yeah, so feel free to slip out.

01:29:17.000 Thanks, guys.

01:29:18.000 You are not a prisoner.

01:29:19.000 Right on.

01:29:19.000 We'll take a... I'm sure there's a lot of people who are eager to get questions in for you, but if you gotta bounce... There's a couple for me.

01:29:25.000 I'll hit them real quick and then hit it and forget it.

01:29:26.000 Yeah, do we have questions for Mike? 0.59

01:29:28.000 Let's do it.

01:29:28.000 Maybe, but I gotta find him.

01:29:30.000 That's the challenge.

01:29:30.000 That's always the challenge.

01:29:32.000 Can you control F Cernovich?

01:29:34.000 I doubt.

01:29:35.000 Or Mike. 0.96

01:29:36.000 We'll hit him next time.

01:29:37.000 Thanks, guys, everybody.

01:29:38.000 Thanks so much, man.

01:29:39.000 Always a pleasure, Mike.

01:29:40.000 Thanks for coming.

01:29:41.000 I probably can't find him fast enough for you, but just do your thing and we'll do our thing.

01:29:45.000 Feel the love, psychically.

01:29:47.000 Why is no one talking about Jelaine Maxwell?

01:29:49.000 I mean, that's a great point.

01:29:51.000 Yeah, no, I know.

01:29:52.000 I know.

01:29:52.000 That should be talked about as much as the Reinhouse case.

01:29:55.000 Or more.

01:29:56.000 Absolutely more.

01:29:57.000 Yeah.

01:29:58.000 Thanks guys.

01:29:59.000 Thanks.

01:29:59.000 All right, man.

01:29:59.000 Thanks for coming.

01:30:00.000 All right.

01:30:00.000 We'll just, we'll just start with the Super Chats like normal.

01:30:02.000 And, uh, we'll just, we'll just carry on through the night with Mr. Michael Malice.

01:30:06.000 Yes.

01:30:06.000 We only have one Michael now.

01:30:08.000 Now we can say Mike again, instead of, uh, uh, last name starting to mention Malice.

01:30:13.000 All right.

01:30:13.000 So we got here.

01:30:16.000 Oh, we didn't even talk about the locals thing.

01:30:18.000 Yeah, we should go into this... We'll do that in this bonus episode.

01:30:20.000 Talk about locals.

01:30:21.000 I brought up, um... Why don't we talk... Why don't we just...

01:30:24.000 I brought up like a couple weeks ago that... Let's talk about it.

01:30:27.000 Basically that Dave Rubin sold you out and all the locals people by... This is a deep... There's a couple tiers to this.

01:30:33.000 That he basically got a bunch of people like, hey, come join my new Patreon.

01:30:37.000 I'm gonna do it right.

01:30:38.000 You can trust me.

01:30:39.000 No one's gonna ban you because I have the keys.

01:30:41.000 All these people signed up and then he was like... And then he sold it to another company.

01:30:43.000 Now they have the keys.

01:30:44.000 He doesn't have the keys anymore.

01:30:44.000 So he kind of misled people.

01:30:45.000 That was when I said he... That's my whole thing about he kind of sold you out.

01:30:49.000 So I have a lot to say about this real sorry real quick the context is Dave Rubin started locals a subscription platform He recently sold it to rumble.

01:30:58.000 I don't know the full details on what he got for it stock and rumble according to his announcement video so I I hate when people online are like, explain yourself or how you're friends with this person.

01:31:09.000 I always usually block them or ignore them.

01:31:11.000 It's different when someone is friends with me and I know them and so on and so forth.

01:31:15.000 So because it's you guys and we're all friends, I've hung out with Lydia one-on-one, hung out with Tim one-on-one.

01:31:20.000 Luke and I are basically cousins because of our views and our backgrounds.

01:31:23.000 And Ian, you and I have never hung out one-on-one.

01:31:24.000 We've had pretty intense conversations.

01:31:26.000 So I'm perfectly receptive to something like that happening.

01:31:30.000 Here's the story with why I'm at Locals, why I'm happy to be at Locals.

01:31:33.000 I was on Patreon, and I was unhappy with Patreon for a couple of reasons.

01:31:37.000 One is, the bonus thing I had was like a Facebook Michael Malice group, but then I'm at the risk of getting zucked at any minute, right?

01:31:43.000 Number one.

01:31:44.000 That happened to Dave Smith, who some of you guys know.

01:31:46.000 Really?

01:31:46.000 Very failed comedian.

01:31:47.000 They zucked his... Very failed comedian.

01:31:50.000 They zucked his Facebook group for his fans.

01:31:52.000 It just vanished overnight.

01:31:53.000 So that was an issue I had with Patreon.

01:31:55.000 And number two is I didn't like how Patreon also vanishes people overnight.

01:31:58.000 I did it to Lauren Southern, some other people.

01:31:59.000 Carl Benjamin.

01:32:00.000 Yeah, Sargon. 0.74

01:32:01.000 One night you're gonna wake up and your revenue's gone.

01:32:03.000 Ruben calls me up.

01:32:04.000 I was the second person he called after Bridget Phetasy.

01:32:07.000 And I also think it's important if I'm taking money from people, or if anyone is, to be transparent about it.

01:32:11.000 So this was the advantages I have with locals.

01:32:14.000 One is, if I had an issue, I knew I could talk to Dave right away, right?

01:32:18.000 Me and him have a close relationship.

01:32:19.000 I'm not just gonna wake up and it's gonna be deleted.

01:32:22.000 Two, he was gonna promote it, so that's gonna encourage people to support me.

01:32:25.000 And three, I own the content there.

01:32:28.000 Now, it's kind of a community.

01:32:30.000 I don't post that much on there.

01:32:31.000 There's some exclusive content.

01:32:32.000 The primary thing is it's like, I use it like a Patreon, and also it's not beholden to Facebook.

01:32:37.000 Right?

01:32:38.000 So when he sold this to Rumble, none of my data went anywhere.

01:32:41.000 It's still my data and always has been my data that I could take with me.

01:32:44.000 That same thing is true for Patreon.

01:32:47.000 Fine, but the point is, there's no upside for me being on Patreon, and these are some very specific upsides that I could have for being on local.

01:32:56.000 So I don't see what the issue is.

01:32:58.000 You think it's like the least worst subscription-based service right now?

01:33:02.000 Yeah, and I had some big benefits from doing it.

01:33:05.000 I'll explain my perspective on this and why I'm not a fan.

01:33:09.000 And I think the easiest way to explain to people is that I actually am rather economically left libertarian.

01:33:14.000 When Patreon, as a massive Silicon Valley VC-funded enterprise, emerges and starts Coordinating and colluding to destroy people's careers.

01:33:24.000 And they did because we saw that after Patreon banned certain individuals, they started going after any competitor.

01:33:30.000 Subscribestar was a good example.

01:33:31.000 They had their access to online financial services terminated from a couple companies.

01:33:36.000 And people pointed out, I'll say in my opinion, because I want to be careful on legal issue, following the exodus from Patreon, all of a sudden these rival companies started losing their access to online financial services and it was very Very obvious what was going on.

01:33:53.000 I think it is great that a rival service emerges, like locals.

01:33:57.000 But my belief is that if we are to succeed in terms of freedom, liberty into the future, we must empower individuals to have access to this technology at their own fingertips.

01:34:08.000 Immediately, my response was, I'm gonna start a non-profit that creates a decentralized, open-source Patreon that anyone can have for free to install on their own server or a server where they pay for it.

01:34:20.000 So instead of going to someone else, instead of giving away a percentage of their income and being beholden to someone else's political whims, they can say, it's my server.

01:34:28.000 I upload, I press enter on the software, instantly networked with all of the other sites that

01:34:34.000 use this, have their own privately controlled subscription service, and give money, percentages,

01:34:40.000 to no one.

01:34:41.000 It was a non-profit solution where I said, I don't want to make money off the fact that

01:34:45.000 people are being oppressed by massive manipulative monopolies.

01:34:49.000 And I think that's terrific.

01:34:50.000 And what Dave Rubin's solution was is, and it's also equally valid, was, I'm going to create a service to offer up to people a safer position with their subscription platform, and for this I will get a premium.

01:35:03.000 The reason I disagree with that and don't like it is that Dave Rubin then has the ability to sell those promises to someone else off of the names he's collected, and he has.

01:35:13.000 Rumble, I also think is fantastic, and we use Rumble fans.

01:35:18.000 But what happens in 10-20 years?

01:35:19.000 Has this actually solved the problem?

01:35:21.000 No.

01:35:22.000 So what it says to me is that we had this great crisis moment, and instead of solving the problem, individuals of merit said, we will just recreate the same problem and profit off of it.

01:35:32.000 That's fine, because I believe in free market and all that stuff.

01:35:35.000 But I actually think the solution to this will be to create a perpetual, open-source, community-based, free networking software to give to everybody.

01:35:41.000 I agree that that is the solution, but I'm also saying that if there is a problem, and there's something that mitigates the worst aspects of the problem, that is clearly a concrete improvement.

01:35:50.000 I completely agree.

01:35:50.000 We agree.

01:35:51.000 I'm actually all about people creating proprietary tech and selling it.

01:35:54.000 But the reason I went after Dave so hard is because he's very vocal about big tech and the problems and kind of beating big tech.

01:36:00.000 And what he did, whether he realizes or not, is he built big tech.

01:36:04.000 He built proprietary social networking and sold it to another proprietary social network, which can now sell to Microsoft for $6 billion and own it all.

01:36:12.000 So look, I think that we need competition.

01:36:16.000 I think that Silicon Valley's monopoly is horrifying.

01:36:18.000 Sure.

01:36:19.000 I think that Rumble buying locals is massively beneficial towards freedom liberty because it creates competition and then puts these other companies on notice.

01:36:28.000 Rivals are emerging, they're powerful, and they're taking away large portions of your market share.

01:36:33.000 It's really, really good.

01:36:34.000 The end result, I believe, however, is, you know, I know the guys at Rumble, and how long will it be until an

01:36:40.000 investor, because there are very big investors involved in this, who say, what's my exit?

01:36:45.000 And they say, well, I mean, look, Google, Alphabet's really excited about what we're doing.

01:36:50.000 And they want to buy up competition.

01:36:52.000 So they're offering us half a billion.

01:36:53.000 Boom.

01:36:54.000 And then what happens, you know, a year or two later, they roll out new updates.

01:36:57.000 They roll out.

01:36:58.000 So it's like a stopgap.

01:37:00.000 I think it's still a net positive across the board.

01:37:03.000 But it's just for me, my personal worldview is we should be working towards decentralized solutions.

01:37:09.000 That being said, it's a net positive what Locals is doing, what Rumble is doing.

01:37:13.000 And I think nothing is stopping us from doing what we're doing.

01:37:16.000 So in the end, everyone's just doing well.

01:37:18.000 And I'm just gonna say one more thing.

01:37:19.000 You know, you said he had sold me out.

01:37:21.000 That site's giving me peace of mind, because people contribute five bucks a month, and I don't have to worry about being homeless, and I don't have to worry about being cancelled, because if my Twitter goes away, if my YouTube goes away, I know I can make rent.

01:37:31.000 And that is really a big deal for someone who's unemployable and doesn't have a job, that I can sleep at night not worried about, am I gonna wake up tomorrow, is my life gonna be ruined?

01:37:40.000 My question for you is why didn't you just spend the three hours to install WordPress with the free membership plugin?

01:37:46.000 What?

01:37:46.000 I don't even know what you're talking about.

01:37:48.000 That's the issue I take here.

01:37:49.000 You could have, in a matter of hours, bought- You can join my locals for free.

01:37:54.000 You just have to pay money to post.

01:37:55.000 That's it.

01:37:56.000 It's free.

01:37:57.000 Pay money to post?

01:37:58.000 Yes.

01:37:58.000 And what is your locals, by the way?

01:37:59.000 What do you mean?

01:38:01.000 It's mouse.locals.com, but my point is anyone can join the community for free.

01:38:04.000 You do not have to pay to join.

01:38:06.000 If you want to be a supporter, I have some hidden posts.

01:38:08.000 And if you want to comment, but that's it, but it's free.

01:38:10.000 Right, right, right.

01:38:11.000 So what I'm saying is, you have free content, and then member content.

01:38:14.000 Right.

01:38:14.000 So for $70, you can buy a WordPress, it's a pre-made WordPress site, like a template.

01:38:22.000 Okay.

01:38:23.000 And then, how much does the, you can get like a membership plugin for a couple hundred bucks.

01:38:28.000 And then the website is basically done and people can do the exact same thing and you never pay a cent of percentage to anyone else ever again. 0.97

01:38:35.000 Because this is the first I'm hearing of this because I'm a fucking boomer. 0.96

01:38:38.000 And this is my issue. 0.98

01:38:39.000 Sorry.

01:38:40.000 My issue is I feel like people got worried they were gonna have their lives destroyed by Patreon and along comes the person saying give me 10% of all of your money and I'll make it all go away when he could have said Why are you yelling?

01:38:53.000 Because I I am I am not not not not yelling at you You're not yelling me

01:38:57.000 But yeah Because I tell people this all the time you give me one day

01:39:01.000 and I will give you your own subscribe your own patreon your

01:39:03.000 Own subscription platform and you will never have to give away your revenue to anyone else

01:39:07.000 But they go around and collect those who are scared. They say I see a crisis people are scared. Their livelihoods

01:39:14.000 will be destroyed Lauren Southern, Carl Benjamin.

01:39:16.000 It is time for me to go to them and assuage their fears by telling them if you give me 10% of all the revenue you make in perpetuity, and it is in perpetuity, then I will make that go away.

01:39:26.000 And when they called me and asked me that, I said, I've run tech companies before.

01:39:30.000 I've built apps before.

01:39:31.000 In one hour, I can make my own site.

01:39:34.000 And they said, no, you don't understand how hard it is, Tim.

01:39:36.000 You're wrong.

01:39:36.000 You're wrong about this.

01:39:38.000 Trust me and give me 10% of all your revenue.

01:39:40.000 And so I got a dev, through Luke, a good friend, and for a couple grand, we built our initial site, and we pay no one anything.

01:39:47.000 And the amount of growth we've had, 10% would be ripping money from our pockets by exploiting our fears and ignorance.

01:39:55.000 I'm lefty on these issues.

01:39:59.000 I am not the kind of person who says, buyer beware, caveat emptor.

01:40:02.000 I don't believe in that.

01:40:03.000 I believe that convincing someone to hand over a portion, 10% of their business And it only cost me a couple hundred bucks to operate their infrastructure is wrong.

01:40:15.000 But you know what?

01:40:15.000 It is free enterprise, and I can respect entrepreneurial behavior, and if people make those choices, it is individual choice.

01:40:21.000 I feel like I am actively combating things like that, trying to convince the good people, like Michael Malice, we can make you powerful, and we can make sure that money stays in your pocket, because I don't want your money.

01:40:31.000 I don't want to be in charge of you, I don't want control over your revenue, I want to help you, I want you to be bigger, and I want you to have all the money in the world that you earn.

01:40:38.000 Yeah.

01:40:38.000 And then I watch these people come up and say, are you scared they're gonna ban you?

01:40:41.000 If you give me a cut of your money, don't worry, we won't.

01:40:45.000 And yet still, Locals then sells to Rumble.

01:40:48.000 And Rumble could sell.

01:40:50.000 Now Dave Rubin made you those promises, but he doesn't have control over whether or not you get banned.

01:40:54.000 And I assure you, Locals will ban certain people who sign up, and we all know it.

01:40:59.000 So, what effectively happens is, you have built up your subscriber base on someone else's platform, once again, just like Patreon, and if you leave, it will be very difficult for you to inform all of those fans where to go.

01:41:10.000 They're getting a cut of your money, and it is a massive amount.

01:41:14.000 I know the costs, I know the expenses.

01:41:17.000 We host members-only content, and it is expensive because we have a lot of members.

01:41:21.000 But if you were to host everything you were doing on your own website with your own couple hundred bucks members plugin, you would be paying 99% less than you'd be paying now.

01:41:32.000 And guess what?

01:41:33.000 They knew it when they sold you it.

01:41:36.000 Now that's free market.

01:41:37.000 And if you're on the right and you're a libertarian ANCAP type, you probably are fine with it.

01:41:42.000 That's where I differ and I believe I would rather decentralize and give away the tech and the power for you.

01:41:47.000 Well, the tech has been out there for over 10 years, so I had my own website.

01:41:50.000 I called it Members Lounge, Subscribers Lounge.

01:41:53.000 I call it lukeuncensored.com right now.

01:41:55.000 It's been around for a very long time, and instead of giving 10%, instead of giving your audience, because also people who follow you are going to go on that website, and they're going to stay, and they're going to sign up to other people's, you know, different kind of locals and groups.

01:42:09.000 You could keep your own in-house group directly to you.

01:42:14.000 You keep a larger portion of your audience and what you pay for is payment processing and hosting, which if you do it intelligently is 1-2% compared to 10%.

01:42:25.000 And real quick, Odyssey has... Oh, I gotta link my stuff to there, I keep forgetting.

01:42:30.000 But I believe they have... Because, look, there's video hosting services that are decentralized, torrent-based, and the costs for them are minuscule.

01:42:39.000 And you can get a membership... You can get member-locked videos on some of these platforms.

01:42:44.000 I'm not sure if Odyssey does it open to the public, but I believe it's a business thing they do.

01:42:48.000 And it's... We'll call it effectively free.

01:42:51.000 So, I'll just put it this way.

01:42:54.000 Carl Benjamin is a good friend of mine.

01:42:57.000 When I was starting my YouTube, he said, Tim, will you do a video for my channel talking about something?

01:43:02.000 And this was a huge opportunity for me.

01:43:04.000 He had hundreds of thousands of subscribers.

01:43:05.000 I had none.

01:43:06.000 And then I broke 100k with his support because there were people who saw my work and believed in me.

01:43:11.000 And when I saw him get banned from Patreon over BS issues, I was personally offended.

01:43:16.000 They lied, they cheated, and I spoke with the CEO of Patreon, and he assured me all of the exact same things that Dave Rubin said as well.

01:43:23.000 It was to the T. I'm on the phone with this guy in Vegas, and he's like, listen, listen, listen, man.

01:43:28.000 I don't want to ban anybody.

01:43:29.000 We're here to support free speech.

01:43:31.000 But here's the issue.

01:43:32.000 When the processors come to us and say, you ban one person or you ban them all, we didn't do this.

01:43:38.000 We didn't trust us.

01:43:39.000 We're here to protect you guys.

01:43:40.000 We respect the creators and we assure you we're gonna let you go.

01:43:43.000 And then, I think it was Lauren Southern first.

01:43:45.000 I think it was after Lauren Southern I had this conversation.

01:43:47.000 And then it was, he said, we'll never do this again without giving notice.

01:43:50.000 I can't remember which one was first.

01:43:52.000 But then Carl Benjamin got banned.

01:43:53.000 I think he was second.

01:43:54.000 There was a mass exodus.

01:43:55.000 And then I'm like, some of these people are my friends whose lives are being destroyed and this guy lied to my face.

01:44:03.000 Well, to my ear over the phone.

01:44:06.000 And then Dave Rubin starts a business and with all the good intentions, again I think it's a net positive, and it's the same narrative.

01:44:12.000 And now he's got you, your members are locked on his platform, and he sold it.

01:44:17.000 The promises he made to you no longer matter, because you don't know who's in control of the investments into Rumble.

01:44:22.000 Which means tomorrow night you could be banned and you could lose everything.

01:44:25.000 More importantly, 10% of your revenue, or whatever percentage they take, is substantially higher than if you just took a day to do it yourself, and that's what Ian and I are dead set on.

01:44:34.000 Ian's been running the An Foundation stuff much more than I have, but there is a team of people doing this for free.

01:44:39.000 People who used to work for big software development firms who are excited to produce a decentralized, networked software.

01:44:46.000 So when you install this on your server, all of a sudden you're connected to all of the websites like a big social media platform.

01:44:52.000 No one can access your data because it's on your server.

01:44:55.000 No one can ban you because it's your server.

01:44:57.000 No one can take a cut of your revenue because it's going to your financial accounts.

01:45:01.000 That's what we're working towards.

01:45:02.000 Yeah, and that's the ON Foundation.

01:45:04.000 It's a 501c3 charity.

01:45:05.000 After January 1st, you're going to be able to donate tax deductible.

01:45:09.000 It's going to be legit.

01:45:09.000 Then we're going to be able to start paying developers and kick this into overdrive and make a metaverse that is free software so that you can watch the algorithms and see what they're doing.

01:45:17.000 And it's not going to be spying on you, the technology, and it's going to be awesome.

01:45:21.000 All the people who sign up for this.

01:45:23.000 I don't want one red cent from any of you.

01:45:25.000 I want people to have the right to free speech, to be safe in their careers, and things they build.

01:45:31.000 And after you build up your site, and through your hard work and dedication and merit, you end up with 100,000 paying members, zero will ever go to any of us who built it.

01:45:40.000 It will all be yours.

01:45:43.000 Now, if you're an ANCAP, you're a capitalist, you know, whatever, and you believe that if you create it, you deserve a cut, I do not disagree with you.

01:45:50.000 We can both coexist.

01:45:52.000 No one's stopping me from doing what I'm doing, but I tell you this, my goal is to put all of those companies out of business.

01:45:57.000 Patreon, Subscribestar, and Locals.

01:45:59.000 I hope that our software ends them.

01:46:02.000 And it was Lauren that I got hit first, and I guess what we're trying to say here in the short, concise way is decentralize and build your infrastructure.

01:46:10.000 That's it.

01:46:11.000 Yeah, and you need the code to be free.

01:46:12.000 That's the problem with Rumble's private code.

01:46:15.000 Because it can spy on you and sell your data, but you don't know because you can't see that the code is instructed to do it.

01:46:22.000 It's not just... I'll put it simply.

01:46:23.000 If you trust Dave, you can call him on the phone.

01:46:26.000 You're in good position.

01:46:27.000 That's great.

01:46:28.000 But Dave's not your guy anymore.

01:46:30.000 He sold the company.

01:46:31.000 So I don't know who you call now.

01:46:33.000 I like- I like- I'm sure it still would be Dave.

01:46:35.000 I'm sure he's- He's involved.

01:46:37.000 Yeah, completely gone.

01:46:38.000 But selling the company means that- Yeah, he's still on contract with Rumble.

01:46:41.000 So who's on the board?

01:46:42.000 Who's on the board?

01:46:42.000 What happens when MasterCard calls up Rumble and says, look, we got this guy who's made some very offensive jokes and want him gone?

01:46:48.000 I think that's what happened with Patreon.

01:46:49.000 It was when the Swift payment system came in and they were like, we're gonna shut it all down if you don't get rid of a person at BAC.

01:46:54.000 That's right.

01:46:55.000 That's right.

01:46:55.000 And so what happens then when a financial service goes to a subscription service and says, if you don't ban this one person, we will shut down your network.

01:47:05.000 They go, oh no, oh heavens, what do we do?

01:47:07.000 We have no choice.

01:47:08.000 What happens when it's decentralized?

01:47:10.000 They go to the one person they don't like, and they suspend his service, and he opens a new account with a merchant account from another bank.

01:47:17.000 And it's whack-a-mole, but they can't ban anyone else, and they can't put the network at harm because it's decentralized.

01:47:23.000 So.

01:47:25.000 With respect.

01:47:26.000 Local's fantastic.

01:47:28.000 Dave Rubin's awesome.

01:47:29.000 I love Dave Rubin.

01:47:29.000 Better than Patreon.

01:47:31.000 You know, Patreon is bad for a lot of reasons.

01:47:33.000 They're in the Silicon Valley VC system.

01:47:35.000 Rumble, I believe, is as well.

01:47:39.000 Isn't Peter Thiel an investor in Rumble?

01:47:40.000 He is, yeah.

01:47:41.000 Yeah, isn't he an investor in Facebook as well?

01:47:43.000 I'm not sure.

01:47:44.000 No, I'm not saying I got beef with Peter Thiel.

01:47:46.000 He's actually done some things I agree with, but that being said, it's the same people who are owning the same projects and who have the same control, and now that control's been relinquished back to Silicon Valley.

01:47:54.000 So, all it's done is tricked you, in my opinion, into staying within their ecosystem, but giving you a false sense of security.

01:48:02.000 Now that the rights have been transferred over, they've, you know, you build your platform up on YouTube.

01:48:08.000 They could ban us at any moment, and all those years of hard work has been just annihilated, so we're very, that's why I'm like, we gotta do our own TimCast.com, become a member, because that's where we persist in the event they try to shut us down.

01:48:18.000 When we start demoing, we could try it out.

01:48:21.000 And it works already.

01:48:22.000 It exists.

01:48:24.000 It exists already, right?

01:48:25.000 The guys had working versions of it?

01:48:27.000 No, I wouldn't call it working.

01:48:28.000 Alpha?

01:48:30.000 Pre-alpha.

01:48:30.000 But the structure's there.

01:48:32.000 You can tell it's a building being built.

01:48:33.000 The scaffolding is in place.

01:48:35.000 And it is cool.

01:48:36.000 You can be in a 3D realm.

01:48:38.000 There's a lot of cool stuff.

01:48:39.000 Then you can paste a website on a wall in the 3D realm.

01:48:45.000 We're really taking this all the way.

01:48:48.000 I'm very passionate about empowering other people to be independent and all that stuff.

01:48:54.000 It's like a driving force for me, but we went long and we should go to Super Chats.

01:48:56.000 Okay.

01:48:57.000 Smash that like button! 0.98

01:48:58.000 Thanks for bringing that up, Michael, by the way.

01:49:00.000 Subscribe to the channel.

01:49:01.000 I love my locals.

01:49:02.000 It makes me feel happy that there's a community of people who are friends with each other now.

01:49:06.000 Locals.malice.com?

01:49:07.000 Malice.locals.com.

01:49:08.000 Malice.locals.com.

01:49:08.000 That's not nothing.

01:49:10.000 No, for real.

01:49:10.000 I think it's a net positive.

01:49:11.000 You took what the best case scenario of what exists.

01:49:14.000 That's why we gotta build something.

01:49:15.000 But I look at it like, with the Patreon thing, the Locals situation is a plus one,

01:49:20.000 and the On Foundation is a plus 1,000.

01:49:23.000 Like, once we get this tech up and running, no one will be censored.

01:49:27.000 I mean, people will try and ban your bank accounts, they'll try and shut down your servers,

01:49:30.000 they'll go for your hosts, but this is, imagine if your account on Locals was on your website,

01:49:38.000 That's just the easiest way to put it.

01:49:39.000 Or like on a Raspberry Pi in your house that's also mirrored on other people's Raspberry Pis in their houses.

01:49:45.000 Little tiny computers you put wherever you want and then there's no one person who can ban the network.

01:49:49.000 Okay.

01:49:49.000 let's read super chats because we went long all right let's see riona and taka says prosecutors knew

01:49:55.000 who jump kick man was and hit it

01:49:57.000 yeah i saw that there was a report there uh... that they they they believe they

01:50:00.000 know who the guy is who kicked kyle rittenhouse while he was on the ground

01:50:03.000 and he fired at him we'll see man because the judge doesn't seem ready to take

01:50:08.000 action When the verdict comes in, the judge might say, we're not doing this.

01:50:12.000 That'll be interesting.

01:50:14.000 All right, let's see.

01:50:15.000 We didn't talk about this.

01:50:16.000 Maybe we'll talk about this in the member segment.

01:50:17.000 OSHA has suspended the vaccine mandate.

01:50:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:20.000 This is because the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeal, I believe Circuit Court of Appeals, the appellate court, said, unconstitutional, for now, we're putting a stay.

01:50:28.000 But they say they will move forward with it as soon as the litigation passes through, and they said they think they'll win.

01:50:34.000 So, the battle has just begun.

01:50:37.000 Hey Abbott says, hey guys, loving the TimCast bonus content.

01:50:37.000 Alright, let's see.

01:50:40.000 By the way, have you heard Sad Little Man by Five Times August?

01:50:43.000 It's a song he wrote about Fauci and today it hit number one on the Apple singer-songwriter charts.

01:50:47.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:50:48.000 Really?

01:50:49.000 Have you guys heard of Five Times August?

01:50:51.000 Negative.

01:50:51.000 No, but I thought that song was about me.

01:50:54.000 I don't know.

01:50:54.000 5 Leos I'm guessing?

01:50:55.000 I thought five times August is like a bunch of like political.

01:50:58.000 I think it's like acoustic folk stuff.

01:50:59.000 Interesting.

01:51:00.000 I've seen a lot of it.

01:51:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:51:02.000 Sounds pretty good.

01:51:03.000 Five Leos I'm guessing.

01:51:04.000 Five Leos?

01:51:05.000 I don't know.

01:51:06.000 August.

01:51:07.000 All right, let's see.

01:51:08.000 Gerald Armstrong says Michael was also on Cash Cab.

01:51:11.000 I saw that.

01:51:12.000 I didn't know that.

01:51:12.000 It was so good.

01:51:13.000 It was really great.

01:51:14.000 It's on YouTube.

01:51:16.000 One of my finest hours.

01:51:17.000 You scored.

01:51:18.000 And I messed with Ben Bailey, the driver, as much as I could, because I knew they were going to edit it out.

01:51:23.000 And at the end, he yelled at me.

01:51:25.000 And as soon as I got out that cash cab, they give you fake money.

01:51:27.000 They mail you a check later.

01:51:29.000 I looked at the camera and said, this is all going up my nose.

01:51:31.000 They edited that out though, right?

01:51:34.000 Of course.

01:51:34.000 But I'm like, let me see what I can say, because let them sweat.

01:51:37.000 Did you just get into a random cab and it turned out?

01:51:39.000 No, no, no.

01:51:39.000 If you look up Thought Catalog Michael Myles Cash Cab, there's an article, I broke it all down.

01:51:43.000 They interview you pretending to be in another show and they say you're going to meet the producers at this place.

01:51:47.000 And if you watch my episode, I point to my hand because I'd written on it Cash Cab.

01:51:51.000 Wow.

01:51:52.000 Right when I walk into the cab, yeah.

01:51:53.000 Really?

01:51:54.000 Whoa.

01:51:54.000 Yes.

01:51:56.000 Not just the hat rack.

01:51:57.000 It's in the episode.

01:51:58.000 It's in the episode, yeah.

01:51:59.000 It says Cash Cab on your hand.

01:51:59.000 You point to it.

01:52:00.000 I point to my friend and I say Cash Cab.

01:52:02.000 Everything's fake on television.

01:52:03.000 Everything.

01:52:04.000 That was brilliant.

01:52:06.000 I gotta check that out.

01:52:07.000 This is a very important super chat from a member.

01:52:10.000 Brony Ninja.

01:52:13.000 You laugh, but let's get serious.

01:52:17.000 Yes, sir Late Tuesday night.

01:52:19.000 I had to bury one of my dogs.

01:52:21.000 Oh Listening to your podcast this morning at work with with only three hours of sleep kept me from falling apart Oh, that's really great.

01:52:28.000 I got us.

01:52:29.000 I'm a dog a bite victim.

01:52:31.000 So yeah, I'm a survivor house recovery I wanna it's been traumatic.

01:52:34.000 I want to let all of you guys know an important lesson.

01:52:37.000 I Um, it was several years ago that we had to put down my dog that we had since I was like 14.

01:52:44.000 He was a Wheaton Terrier Poodle Mix named Barley.

01:52:47.000 And, uh, I'm already giving away too much information.

01:52:49.000 And he was a very, very, very intelligent dog.

01:52:53.000 And he got old.

01:52:54.000 And he passed away.

01:52:55.000 We had to bring him to the vet because he couldn't stand anymore.

01:52:57.000 He couldn't go to the bathroom.

01:52:58.000 And these things happen.

01:52:59.000 But I will tell you this.

01:53:01.000 When we were there, it was one of the most horrifying experiences I've had.

01:53:06.000 Sitting there seeing, you know, one of my best friends, and we have to watch the vet take his last moments.

01:53:12.000 It was extremely painful to watch because he didn't want to die.

01:53:16.000 My dog.

01:53:17.000 But he was already there at the door.

01:53:20.000 Even your dog was mixed race? 1.00

01:53:22.000 You're really committed to that bitch. 1.00

01:53:22.000 Jesus, Tim. 1.00

01:53:23.000 I am committed.

01:53:24.000 I am very committed.

01:53:26.000 But I will tell you this.

01:53:28.000 In the following days, I would sporadically cry.

01:53:30.000 Of course, yeah.

01:53:31.000 I cried all night.

01:53:33.000 For the next several weeks and months, I would randomly just start crying.

01:53:37.000 But I will tell you, I am happy.

01:53:39.000 The feeling of sadness and depression and anger was one of the greatest feelings I ever had because that was all of the happiness and joy that my dog had brought to me just bursting from me at that one moment randomly and I was crying because I was remembering the love and the happiness.

01:53:58.000 I was crying because it was gone but it was a memory of the good and all of those great things and I would never give up any of it.

01:54:06.000 So in those moments when I would cry, remembering that my dog had passed, I would know, as I'm crying, that it was actually tears of happiness for the gift I had been given.

01:54:18.000 We all hung out on Saturday, and I told you, on Sunday, one of the great honors of my life, I went out with my friend Matt to different kennels to help him pick out a dog, and we picked out a beautiful girl, and she's very smart, she figured out how to open the garbage, she figured out twice how to get out of the kennel.

01:54:33.000 And she just goes into her crate by herself.

01:54:35.000 She's a just an adorable beauty. 1.00

01:54:37.000 I have her picture on my Instagram.

01:54:38.000 I always had dogs my entire life and my family always had dogs their entire life and there's incredible stories of dogs protecting them.

01:54:46.000 There's dogs that saved my grandmother's life and I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the relationship that my family and my lineage had with dogs.

01:54:54.000 So there's I have crazy insane stories with with just yeah, there's something else to them.

01:55:00.000 Shout out to Lily the cutest Frenchie on earth. 1.00

01:55:03.000 Who's that?

01:55:04.000 She's in LA.

01:55:05.000 Alright, let's get back to the silliness.

01:55:08.000 Joe the OP says, is the underwear model a new intern, Tim?

01:55:12.000 We have an underwear model on the show. 0.67

01:55:17.000 Oh man, you know what we should talk about in the member segment?

01:55:20.000 That tweet I had that triggered the laughs.

01:55:22.000 Oh my god, with the sex works?

01:55:24.000 Yeah. 0.67

01:55:25.000 Aren't I smart, Michael?

01:55:27.000 Sure.

01:55:28.000 All right, Stan.

01:55:29.000 Here I am on your show.

01:55:33.000 So for those, I'm not going to say the tweet because YouTube would get mad at me, but I

01:55:37.000 had a question about- Yeah, let's discuss this in this moment.

01:55:39.000 I think it's a really... I think it's a... I was a legitimate question!

01:55:42.000 I wasn't... I wasn't being silly. 0.89

01:55:44.000 You were being kind of silly. 0.99

01:55:46.000 Because the way I crafted the question. 0.98

01:55:48.000 But it was basically a question about the sex-positive feminist view of sex work, and there's a really, really good question that I thought needed to be... I was... It was a shower thought.

01:55:57.000 I was just like, you know, not a literal shower thought.

01:56:00.000 But I was just like, they said, you know, sex work is work.

01:56:03.000 And I went, is it?

01:56:04.000 Then can an employer make requirements?

01:56:07.000 We'll talk about that in the member segment.

01:56:08.000 Let's read some more super chats.

01:56:11.000 All right.

01:56:12.000 John R says, once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic.

01:56:15.000 Same with cannibalism.

01:56:16.000 We talked about that, some of the people at Cast Castle.

01:56:19.000 I don't know about that, because a lot of AA is like, every day you wake up and you tell yourself, I'm an alcoholic.

01:56:24.000 Like, how does that help you kick liquor?

01:56:27.000 It works for them.

01:56:27.000 Confrontation?

01:56:28.000 Facing your problems?

01:56:30.000 AA is not the only method.

01:56:31.000 But also, what AA says is, it's not the caboose that kills you, it's the first car.

01:56:35.000 So by thinking of yourself as an alcoholic, you know you're not in a position to say, well, I can just have one drink now.

01:56:40.000 Exactly.

01:56:40.000 Because you know your pattern is to get blackout drunk.

01:56:42.000 But what's the difference of getting up every morning and being like, I am a danger to society.

01:56:46.000 Like if you tell yourself that, aren't you just going to become more of a danger to society?

01:56:50.000 I tell myself that before I hit the gym.

01:56:52.000 Into the mirror.

01:56:53.000 I am a danger.

01:56:53.000 But you say, with fierce determination, into the mirror, I am a danger.

01:56:57.000 Someday I'll have a reflection.

01:56:59.000 I think that it's more about the community of AA.

01:57:03.000 That's a big part of it, yeah.

01:57:05.000 Than telling yourself.

01:57:06.000 And apparently LSD, if you read Bill W., I think Bill W. is the guy that founded AA.

01:57:11.000 He credits a lot of his kicking alcohol to LSD, but they removed it from the literature.

01:57:14.000 Oh, wow.

01:57:15.000 All right.

01:57:16.000 Captain says, Adam Baldwin is the best Baldwin.

01:57:18.000 How dare you?

01:57:20.000 How dare you! 0.99

01:57:21.000 I should be in school as the other side of the ocean!

01:57:24.000 Adam Baldwin is an actor who's not part of the Baldwin family, who's actually, like, based.

01:57:28.000 I assumed he was Alec's brother.

01:57:30.000 No, that's good to know.

01:57:31.000 Is he the guy from Backdraft?

01:57:33.000 Is that Adam Baldwin?

01:57:34.000 He's the guy from Full Metal Jacket.

01:57:36.000 Full Metal Jacket.

01:57:37.000 Didn't Max Keiser go to high school with one of the Baldwins? 0.99

01:57:40.000 Adam Baldwin's also in The Patriot with Mel Gibson.

01:57:42.000 Oh, I'm pretty sure.

01:57:42.000 I'm pretty sure, right?

01:57:43.000 I think you're right.

01:57:44.000 Oh, I love that guy.

01:57:45.000 Yeah, he's cool.

01:57:46.000 Good actor.

01:57:46.000 Look up your phone, will you?

01:57:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:48.000 I'm pretty sure that's true.

01:57:50.000 He plays the traitor.

01:57:51.000 Oh, I think you're right.

01:57:53.000 Let me see.

01:57:54.000 A turncoat.

01:57:55.000 Alright, let's see.

01:57:57.000 But I love that movie so much, man.

01:58:00.000 Enigma says, Question, isn't calling Reza Aslan a cannibal forever the same argument the Left makes about the Founders and slavery?

01:58:06.000 Doesn't that viewpoint completely validate them when they say they're nothing but evil?

01:58:10.000 No.

01:58:11.000 The Founding Fathers, many of them were slave owners.

01:58:13.000 That will always be true.

01:58:15.000 That doesn't mean we throw away all of the good things they fought for.

01:58:18.000 It means we denounce the evils of slavery and we criticize, to an extreme degree, the horrors that were perpetrated by founding fathers who were slave owners, which is almost

01:58:29.000 all of them.

01:58:30.000 And then we point out the ideals that they put forth, the seed they planted,

01:58:34.000 helped end slavery and it led to brilliant people, Frederick Douglass, and so we championed the good

01:58:39.000 while condemning the bad, and we remember both, so we know what not to repeat and what to expand upon.

01:58:45.000 And I don't think I would feel comfortable calling him a cannibal. I think cannibalism

01:58:48.000 involves murder and involves human flesh as opposed to like if you're, or like extreme situations.

01:58:54.000 Also this is kind of like what is being gay? 0.92

01:58:56.000 He's cannibalized. 0.94

01:58:57.000 But he's not a cannibal. 0.99

01:58:58.000 Is being gay wanting to have sex with someone of the same sex or actually doing it? 0.99

01:59:02.000 Let's save that for the numbers. 0.99

01:59:03.000 Can I say one sentence though?

01:59:04.000 When I was doing, just like with Cash Cab, I'm like, let me throw out all the jokes and let them worry about editing later.

01:59:10.000 When I was doing my book on The New Right, I asked that very question. 0.56

01:59:13.000 And it was a mainstream publisher, and it had the line, are you gay if you're on your knees but your heart isn't in it?

01:59:19.000 Because I knew my editor would cut it out, and he left it in.

01:59:24.000 And I'm like, OK, so it's in the book.

01:59:26.000 Wow.

01:59:27.000 Same with cannibalism.

01:59:28.000 If you don't want to do it, but you do it.

01:59:29.000 Or if you want to do it and you don't do it.

01:59:31.000 Ryan Long.

01:59:32.000 As a man on the street bit where he asks this question.

01:59:36.000 We'll talk about this, actually.

01:59:37.000 This is really good.

01:59:38.000 In the member segment, because it's all not family-friendly, but the Ryan Long segment comedian, you guys probably know him, was hilarious.

01:59:46.000 The way he talks to people on the street and asks them the same question is just... Well, let's read some more.

01:59:50.000 Let's read some more.

01:59:51.000 We got BlackRockBeacon who says, The theological term for willfully benefiting from the acts of evil is appropriation of evil.

01:59:58.000 Allowing evil to take place without resistance is complicity with evil.

02:00:02.000 Specifically, mediate material cooperation.

02:00:06.000 Banality of evil only implies that it is commonplace.

02:00:08.000 Wow, that's really great.

02:00:09.000 Really great super chat.

02:00:10.000 Thanks, BlackRockBeacon.

02:00:11.000 That was very insightful.

02:00:13.000 David Strosser says, Cernovich rocks!

02:00:15.000 Tim, uh, give out our Small Business Grossed Vodcast on YouTube.

02:00:20.000 SharkBiteBiz.

02:00:21.000 GWAR is airing Monday morning.

02:00:23.000 Right on.

02:00:25.000 Let's see.

02:00:26.000 Baelian says, if Gage did all these horrible things to kids, how was he able to possess a gun?

02:00:31.000 No, no, it was Rosenbaum who did the horrible things.

02:00:33.000 Gage Grosskreutz just, like, smacked his grandma, I think.

02:00:36.000 That's all.

02:00:37.000 Something like that.

02:00:38.000 And he really liked Prodigy.

02:00:40.000 Is that why?

02:00:41.000 Is that what they do?

02:00:42.000 That's one of their songs, yeah.

02:00:44.000 Smack My Grandma? 1.00

02:00:46.000 Smack My Grandma! 1.00

02:00:47.000 Smack My Grandma! 1.00

02:00:47.000 It's not Grandma, though. 1.00

02:00:48.000 I now remember the song.

02:00:49.000 I wasn't big into... What band was it again?

02:00:51.000 Prodigy.

02:00:52.000 The Prodigy, I think they're.

02:00:54.000 The Prodigy?

02:00:54.000 No, is it The?

02:00:55.000 Maybe it is.

02:00:56.000 Maybe you're right, Ian.

02:00:58.000 Ivan Chavez says, I feel that evil is much like cold and dark.

02:01:02.000 It's the absence of.

02:01:03.000 Cold is the absence of heat, dark is the absence of light, and evil is the absence of good.

02:01:07.000 No, no, no.

02:01:08.000 A lot of evil is so intentional, it's not just passive.

02:01:10.000 It's predatory.

02:01:11.000 And intense.

02:01:12.000 Yes.

02:01:12.000 It depends.

02:01:13.000 That's the intensity, because it's like electricity.

02:01:15.000 A little bit is good.

02:01:16.000 It makes your heartbeat.

02:01:17.000 But a lot of it can kill you.

02:01:19.000 Good is the visible light spectrum which warms our skin and we enjoy, and evil is the ionizing radiation which destroys our DNA and kills us.

02:01:30.000 So the intensity of good is evil?

02:01:33.000 Hugging someone to death?

02:01:33.000 What?

02:01:35.000 The intensity of good is evil?

02:01:36.000 You can be so overwhelmingly good that you are committing horrible acts.

02:01:40.000 Well, C.S.

02:01:41.000 Lewis has that quote about he'd rather be under the thumb of someone who's corrupt than someone who's a do-gooder.

02:01:46.000 Exactly.

02:01:46.000 Because a do-gooder will never let you sleep.

02:01:48.000 Yep.

02:01:48.000 Because he's doing it with the benefit of his own conscience.

02:01:50.000 It's yin-yang, right? 0.89

02:01:51.000 Am I saying it right?

02:01:52.000 Well, you're like Asian. 1.00

02:01:53.000 I don't know.

02:01:54.000 I know.

02:01:55.000 So, you know yin-yang?

02:01:57.000 You have the white...

02:01:57.000 Yeah.

02:01:58.000 Redemption.

02:01:58.000 Yeah, the Tao.

02:01:59.000 But within the white there is, within the light there is dark, within the dark there

02:02:02.000 is light.

02:02:03.000 So they say that there is good and there is evil.

02:02:06.000 But within good there is evil, within evil there is good.

02:02:09.000 So that's, it's like a symbol of the balance.

02:02:11.000 Redemption.

02:02:12.000 But I think about, can you do good to the point where it's evil?

02:02:15.000 Definitely.

02:02:16.000 Utilitarianism.

02:02:17.000 Thanos. 0.99

02:02:19.000 I'm going to kill half the universe's population to save the other half. 0.99

02:02:22.000 He wants to save quadrillions of people. 0.97

02:02:25.000 Here's an easier example.

02:02:26.000 When you are not allowing someone to make their own mistakes, and you're saying, I'm going to make the choices for you, and those choices are genuinely good, you are committing some act of evil because this person is not having a sense of self.

02:02:37.000 Ian, lawful good.

02:02:39.000 Lawful good.

02:02:39.000 They tend to become insane.

02:02:41.000 People that are lawful good can be completely insane because they'll zealously attack evil at every possibility.

02:02:46.000 Or what they perceive as evil.

02:02:48.000 That's the thing.

02:02:48.000 Ignorance can lead good people into dangerous evil territory.

02:02:52.000 True neutral is the only way.

02:02:54.000 It's one way.

02:02:54.000 Alright, what do we got?

02:02:58.000 We got some super jets here.

02:03:00.000 Okay.

02:03:02.000 Boop boop boop. 1.00

02:03:05.000 Nerdius Maximus says, how can Kyle be tried as an adult on murder when the foundation of the state's case was no self-defense because he illegally had the gun as a minor?

02:03:13.000 That wasn't the premise of their case.

02:03:15.000 The state wasn't arguing that it wasn't self-defense because of the gun.

02:03:18.000 They didn't argue that.

02:03:19.000 They just argued he was too young to have a gun.

02:03:21.000 That's it.

02:03:23.000 Yeah, I think it was a mistake a lot of people made when they were like, the left was saying it.

02:03:28.000 And I said it early on, too, and was corrected, that he's in the commission of, he's in the act of committing a crime, therefore he can't be in self-defense because he's committing a crime, and people were quickly like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not true, that's not true.

02:03:40.000 So, it turns out anyway, the gun charge was dismissed.

02:03:43.000 He was legally allowed to possess it, so it's moot anyway.

02:03:45.000 If there's a mistrial now, with or without prejudice, can they reintroduce the gun charge or is that completely unadmissible evermore?

02:03:52.000 You guys know?

02:03:53.000 I don't know.

02:03:53.000 That'd be a question for Cerno.

02:03:55.000 Yeah.

02:03:58.000 Josh A says, Rogan's meme about Alex is outdated.

02:04:01.000 Human Monkey Chimera are already a thing. 1.00

02:04:03.000 2021 4.15 NPR Human Monkey Embryos.

02:04:06.000 That was it.

02:04:07.000 That was kind of his point, was like, they were just checking him off to the... The Humanzee, legend has it, was made in the 1900s. 0.64

02:04:13.000 You know the story?

02:04:14.000 About the Humanzee?

02:04:15.000 What, you mean Stalin?

02:04:16.000 Is he the one who did it?

02:04:17.000 Well, Stalin was trying to make, like, a super race of, like, breeding humans and apes. 0.59

02:04:21.000 Wow.

02:04:22.000 Is that for real?

02:04:23.000 Double check it, Lydia, please.

02:04:25.000 I trust Michael.

02:04:26.000 Was Adam Baldwin in the Patriot?

02:04:27.000 Maybe my source was inaccurate.

02:04:29.000 It was Adam Baldwin.

02:04:29.000 It was Captain Wilkins, I think.

02:04:31.000 Was he the traitor? 0.99

02:04:32.000 Traitor! 0.95

02:04:32.000 He doesn't look like a Baldwin. 0.95

02:04:35.000 Let me look that up.

02:04:39.000 Kyle Patey says, please ask the lawyer about the prosecutor advising the investigator to use Marcy's law as an excuse to not fulfill the warrant to obtain Bicep Man's phone.

02:04:49.000 Well, Mike had to go.

02:04:51.000 Cernovich had to leave.

02:04:51.000 He was our lawyer.

02:04:52.000 But I don't know if we have any analysis on that.

02:04:54.000 I don't know if you're... I don't know anything.

02:04:56.000 Marcy's law was where it was like, we can't subject the victims to, you know, police force in this direct, in this way.

02:05:02.000 So, but I think it's an excuse.

02:05:04.000 I think they were like, we want you to testify.

02:05:06.000 And he was like, no, I plead the fifth.

02:05:08.000 And they were like, what if we give you immunity?

02:05:10.000 We can't say we give you immunity because that'll hurt the case.

02:05:13.000 But what if we, you know, come on.

02:05:15.000 You know what's really crazy?

02:05:16.000 In the closing arguments, the state said that the Zeminskys have a Fifth Amendment right to plead. 0.99

02:05:23.000 So, a Fifth Amendment right to remain silent.

02:05:27.000 And the defense objected.

02:05:29.000 The defense was correct.

02:05:30.000 The judge would not sustain this, and it was wrong.

02:05:34.000 What they said was the defense cannot call the Zeminskis, the guy who fired the gun in the air, because he has a right to remain silent and doesn't want to implicate himself.

02:05:44.000 But the state controls whether you have a Fifth Amendment right or not, because they can offer immunity, which means the state could have called the Zeminskis, Given him immunity, and then gotten evidence against Rittenhouse.

02:05:57.000 But they didn't, likely because their narrative was not true.

02:06:00.000 The judge should have said, you can't claim they have a Fifth Amendment right, because you can take it away with immunity.

02:06:05.000 By force!

02:06:07.000 If the state comes to you and says, you're testifying, and you say, I plead the Fifth, they say, you've been subpoenaed and you have immunity, you have no choice.

02:06:12.000 They can take it away.

02:06:13.000 But if they don't give you immunity, then you do have the Fifth?

02:06:15.000 Yes.

02:06:16.000 Okay.

02:06:17.000 But that means they control whether or not you testify, and the defense has no ability to do that.

02:06:21.000 The defense can't give you immunity.

02:06:23.000 So you plead the Fifth.

02:06:25.000 Alright.

02:06:27.000 Garhent says, Michael, could you please reach out to Mike Rowe and have you travel America doing blue collar jobs with

02:06:33.000 Mike?

02:06:33.000 It would be awesome. Odd couple watching a New Yorker hoeing corn or doing a roof.

02:06:37.000 First of all, I'm a Texan and not even a gunpoint.

02:06:39.000 Do you know Mike Rowe?

02:06:42.000 I don't know Mike Rowe.

02:06:42.000 I interviewed him before, um, and he's a very, very, uh, interesting blue collar guy.

02:06:47.000 And he's making a lot of very good points throughout all of this madness that I think is definitely worth paying attention to.

02:06:53.000 We are?

02:06:54.000 We are at some point.

02:06:55.000 Yep.

02:06:55.000 Wait, really?

02:06:56.000 Love that guy.

02:06:56.000 Yeah, we are.

02:06:57.000 He's already in the works.

02:06:58.000 Okay, perfect.

02:06:59.000 I'm a big fan.

02:07:00.000 Yeah.

02:07:01.000 He's such a good dude where he's like, you know, work hard and do your thing.

02:07:04.000 And I'm like, yes.

02:07:05.000 He's a realist.

02:07:06.000 I had a lot of fun interviewing him.

02:07:08.000 He's, he's great.

02:07:08.000 Super cool guy.

02:07:09.000 Yeah.

02:07:12.000 Okay, let's try and find something good.

02:07:13.000 We got a big one here.

02:07:16.000 Theodore Abate says, Washington was zero for four before he crossed the Delaware.

02:07:21.000 He wasn't a born military general.

02:07:23.000 He figured it out because that was what was required.

02:07:26.000 He was only promoted in the French and Indian War because his CEO fell off his horse and died.

02:07:30.000 The Founding Fathers were all just humans who rose to the occasion.

02:07:33.000 Dude, I watched this great documentary about the Congress and building up to the war and everything, and Washington would go in every day to Congress.

02:07:41.000 Every day he went in in his military uniform.

02:07:44.000 Before war had ever been discussed, just letting everyone know without saying a word, I'm ready.

02:07:48.000 And he never spoke.

02:07:49.000 He barely ever spoke.

02:07:50.000 He just sat and listened.

02:07:51.000 And they also thought he was sterile, by the way.

02:07:53.000 Oh, interesting.

02:07:54.000 He never had any kids.

02:07:55.000 Martha, who had kids.

02:07:57.000 A while.

02:07:58.000 And then the Congress voted, they were like, we got to pick somebody to lead this thing, and they picked him.

02:08:02.000 And because he was a statesman, he didn't become a Napoleon.

02:08:05.000 I think a big part of those because he understood law, and maybe because he was friends with the other fathers, but I think it was more that he just understood judiciousness and law, like Napoleon was just a military guy.

02:08:14.000 And he also wanted very clearly have the precedent, the precedent is very different from a king.

02:08:18.000 Because they didn't know what to call him, His Excellency, Your Majesty, he goes, no, no, Mr. President is what they settled on.

02:08:24.000 All right, Matthew Fumey says, actually, the Pennsylvania senator spent near $8,000 on his campaign.

02:08:30.000 The $153 was what was spent during his primary, which he ran unopposed.

02:08:34.000 He was on Crowder today and talked about this.

02:08:37.000 The guy we're talking about is in New Jersey.

02:08:39.000 Yeah, this is in Pennsylvania.

02:08:40.000 Yeah, the New Jersey state senator ran against a Democrat.

02:08:44.000 The majority leader.

02:08:45.000 Right, and beat him.

02:08:46.000 And the Democrat refused to concede for a little while and finally gave up.

02:08:49.000 He did concede.

02:08:50.000 He finally conceded?

02:08:51.000 Yeah, he did.

02:08:52.000 Yep.

02:08:52.000 I don't know what the Pennsylvania thing is, though.

02:08:53.000 Yeah, not sure.

02:08:54.000 Interesting.

02:08:55.000 Still not much money.

02:08:55.000 8,000 bucks.

02:08:57.000 Yeah.

02:08:57.000 Oh, here we go.

02:08:58.000 A lot of Adam Baldwin fans.

02:08:59.000 John Curry says, Adam Baldwin played Jane in Serenity and Firefly.

02:09:02.000 Yes.

02:09:03.000 That's right.

02:09:04.000 Ooh, very cool.

02:09:04.000 Also excellent.

02:09:05.000 Firefly.

02:09:06.000 Yes.

02:09:06.000 Sarah Hart says, Adam Baldwin is in Patriot.

02:09:09.000 Also Jane in Firefly.

02:09:10.000 Very cool.

02:09:13.000 Alright, let's see.

02:09:13.000 What does that say?

02:09:16.000 BlueShirtTail says, Tim, you asked if you can do so much that it becomes evil.

02:09:20.000 Aristotle addressed this 2,500 years ago.

02:09:23.000 Quote, any virtue taken to excess becomes a vice.

02:09:27.000 I hate that.

02:09:27.000 It's a little simplistic, right?

02:09:29.000 Yeah, and it's just semantics.

02:09:31.000 Right.

02:09:32.000 Yeah, it's just, you know.

02:09:33.000 Too much love equals minus one.

02:09:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:09:38.000 Too much cheese equals farts.

02:09:42.000 Too much love.

02:09:43.000 Like, what would... Too much of anything is bad, obviously.

02:09:45.000 But by definition, you're saying too much, right? 0.76

02:09:48.000 Taco Bell equals mud butt. 0.96

02:09:50.000 Mud butt. 0.77

02:09:50.000 I think if someone is kind 24-7 till the day they die, like, genuinely kind, that's not a sin. 0.77

02:09:57.000 Reminds me of that South Park episode where they meet the Mormon family.

02:10:00.000 Have you ever seen that?

02:10:00.000 And the Mormon family's just really, really good people.

02:10:03.000 And they're just like, they believe, you know, this thing that the rest of South Park finds weird, but they're all just good people. 1.00

02:10:09.000 And finally, at the end, they're just like, you guys are assholes. 0.99

02:10:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:10:14.000 All right, one more, one more.

02:10:16.000 Semper Ives says, Tim, Marine Corps birthday was November 10th.

02:10:20.000 Birth in a bar called Tun Tavern.

02:10:23.000 Imagine getting so drunk with the boys you create the deadliest fighting force in the world.

02:10:27.000 Captain Samuel Nicholas did.

02:10:29.000 That's great.

02:10:30.000 That's great.

02:10:31.000 Sounds like one of Dankula's dudes.

02:10:33.000 A captain?

02:10:33.000 A captain in the military started the Marines?

02:10:36.000 I don't know much about, I don't know anything about this story.

02:10:38.000 I've never heard this before.

02:10:39.000 Alright everybody, here's what we're gonna do.

02:10:41.000 We're gonna have a members segment coming up where we talk about naughty things, and it's gonna be really, really funny, so I hope you're ready.

02:10:46.000 Go to TimCast.com, become a member, it should be up around 11 or so.

02:10:49.000 You can, uh, don't forget to subscribe to this channel, smash the like button, share the URL of this video wherever you can, because that's how we fight the censorship, it really does help the show.

02:10:58.000 And follow us at TimCastIRL, basically everywhere, you can follow me personally, at TimCast.

02:11:04.000 Michael, you want to shout anything out?

02:11:05.000 Sure, you can follow me on Twitter at MichaelMalice.

02:11:08.000 I got Robert Barnes discussing the Rittenhouse case on YouTube.com slash MichaelMaliceOfficial and of course SheathUnderwear.com, promo code Malice.

02:11:15.000 I think you also have a book, isn't that the case?

02:11:17.000 The Anarchist Audiobook, which Tim read a chapter of.

02:11:19.000 Yes.

02:11:19.000 Honored.

02:11:20.000 The distributor cleared it, so it's going to be percolating out to wherever you get audiobooks over the next coming weeks.

02:11:25.000 That's awesome.

02:11:26.000 And as soon as I know, I'll update on Twitter.com.

02:11:28.000 I'll update at Malice.Locals.com.

02:11:30.000 Definitely.

02:11:30.000 There you go.

02:11:32.000 There's a lot of very interesting comments about what people were wearing today, especially when we were talking about the felony bit.

02:11:38.000 I'm gonna save it for the after show, but my YouTube channel is WeAreChange.

02:11:42.000 I have a lot of fun on there.

02:11:45.000 In yesterday's video, you could see me translating German, and if you're interested in that, you will go to youtube.com forward slash WeAreChange.

02:11:53.000 I hope to see some of you guys there.

02:11:54.000 I love you guys so much.

02:11:55.000 Thank you so much.

02:11:56.000 Last night was one of the most surreal, greatest moments of my life.

02:12:00.000 I'm still like unbalanced.

02:12:03.000 Yeah, I couldn't sleep.

02:12:04.000 I was like, I was too hyped up.

02:12:05.000 I was like too much energy.

02:12:06.000 Beautiful reality.

02:12:07.000 Thanks for coming.

02:12:08.000 Ian Crossland.

02:12:09.000 See you later.

02:12:10.000 Thank you guys for tuning in again while we're touring Austin in our super awesome little sketchy RV that Joe Rogan was unsettled by.

02:12:18.000 We're having a lot of fun down here.

02:12:20.000 Thank you all for continuing to tune in.

02:12:21.000 You guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.

02:12:24.000 Thanks, Linda.

02:12:25.000 We have one.

02:12:26.000 Linda, honey, listen.

02:12:27.000 Yeah, I know, I know.

02:12:28.000 You guys, thank you all so much for subscribing and sharing.

02:12:32.000 We have 1.3 million views on yesterday's show.

02:12:35.000 It was wild and insane.

02:12:36.000 To clarify, it was Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Blair White, Drew Hernandez, Michael Malice, Lucrid Cast, Ian Crosland, Tim Pool, Lydia.

02:12:48.000 It was amazing.

02:12:48.000 Linda.

02:12:49.000 Linda.

02:12:49.000 Alright everybody, go to TimCast.com.

02:12:52.000 You're not going to want to miss this one.

02:12:53.000 It's going to be dirty and naughty.

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