Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - MSNBC Attempted Jury Tampering, BANNED From Rittenhouse Trial w-Ben Stewart

00:00:00.000 Today, MSNBC was caught jerry tampering.

00:00:23.000 Now, fortunately, it was attempted jury tampering, but apparently an MSNBC producer was trailing the jury bus, blowing through a streetlight to try and keep up with them.

00:00:33.000 And, of course, they come out and they say, this is a normal process.

00:00:37.000 They were just trying to get in touch with the jurors so they could interview them after the verdict.

00:00:43.000 The judge banned MSNBC from the building.

00:00:43.000 Right.

00:00:47.000 Now, this producer that was named is an NBC producer, so there's, you know, of course, overlap, but this may be one of the most serious... I don't know how you just...

00:00:47.000 Good.

00:00:59.000 Acts of aggression?

00:01:00.000 What do you want to call it?

00:01:01.000 Attempts to interfere?

00:01:03.000 Grave constitutional violations?

00:01:05.000 November 9th, I believe it was, Fox News, everyone reported.

00:01:08.000 I mean, I was watching the trial.

00:01:09.000 The judge said someone tried to film the jury at the bus pickup.

00:01:13.000 We will change protocol.

00:01:14.000 It won't happen again.

00:01:15.000 So don't tell me these MSNBC producers did not know what they were doing was in violation of the judge's rules and, I believe, criminal.

00:01:25.000 Some have reported it was a felony to try and do what they did.

00:01:29.000 We have more evidence.

00:01:31.000 This story gets crazy.

00:01:33.000 I believe I have a case to present to you.

00:01:36.000 That ADA Krause tampered with evidence to cheat because they knew they would lose.

00:01:43.000 I believe I can spell it out for you very clearly now.

00:01:46.000 That being said, I'm not going to claim it's definitive, but I can show you the evidence.

00:01:50.000 He has software in his computer for cropping and for formatting.

00:01:53.000 I believe he got the footage himself from Tucker Carlson's show, cropped out the Fox News graphic, compressed it to give the defense a version they could not form an argument around, and then he got caught.

00:02:07.000 Now, maybe it's speculative, but wait till we show you the transcript and you see what he said.

00:02:12.000 I believe he outed himself and he got caught.

00:02:15.000 Will the judge declare a mistrial with prejudice?

00:02:18.000 Will he declare a mistrial?

00:02:19.000 He could rule on either because both motions have been raised.

00:02:22.000 He said a day of reckoning.

00:02:23.000 He said I warned you a day of reckoning would come over this video.

00:02:27.000 But we'll wait to see what the jury says.

00:02:29.000 Now if the jury comes back with not guilty, it's moot.

00:02:31.000 But some rumors are circulating that it's a 6-6 hung jury.

00:02:35.000 That they're not in agreement.

00:02:37.000 Guilty and not guilty right in the middle.

00:02:39.000 And so what will the judge do?

00:02:40.000 I don't know, but this is a travesty of justice.

00:02:42.000 So we'll go through that.

00:02:43.000 We've got some other stories to talk about.

00:02:45.000 The National Guard in Oklahoma.

00:02:48.000 Refusing the vaccine and being threatened to be disbanded effectively.

00:02:52.000 They would be kicked out of the National Guard and they would just become militia.

00:02:57.000 Apparently that's what the Pentagon said, but we'll get into all that stuff.

00:03:00.000 Joining us to talk about all of this stuff today is filmmaker Ben Stewart.

00:03:04.000 Good to be back.

00:03:05.000 This is my third time.

00:03:06.000 Go to benjosephstewart.com and look me up on YouTube, Ben Stewart.

00:03:10.000 Got a lot of really good news, and I have to say that I listen to The Daily Show every day, Tim.

00:03:15.000 I get some really good stuff from there.

00:03:17.000 Oh, I appreciate it, man.

00:03:17.000 Yeah, man.

00:03:18.000 Well, glad to have you back.

00:03:19.000 It's always a pleasure.

00:03:20.000 We did that first episode on the fourth turning and going through the book and everything, so we might get into that stuff again as well, because that's a very crazy topic, especially with how crazy everything's getting.

00:03:28.000 Yeah.

00:03:29.000 We got Luke chillin'?

00:03:30.000 Yeah, last year I was here.

00:03:31.000 I was like, you guys gotta get Ben in here.

00:03:33.000 It's good to see, finally, you here three times now.

00:03:35.000 Finally, I'm here when you're here, so I'm really happy about that.

00:03:38.000 Me and Ben go back all the way back to 2010.

00:03:40.000 That's right.

00:03:42.000 And yeah, it's great to see you.

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00:04:05.000 And because you do, I'm here.

00:04:06.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:07.000 Hoping when they're young.

00:04:10.000 You know, it feels like a hurricane went through here the last few days, and now we're like sitting in the calm.

00:04:14.000 It's silent.

00:04:16.000 It is silent, you know?

00:04:18.000 It's weird.

00:04:19.000 It's like the ghost of Alex and Rogan still.

00:04:22.000 They're still alive.

00:04:24.000 Yes, yes.

00:04:25.000 Thank you guys.

00:04:26.000 To be honest, we had a million and one people trying to, you know, we want to come, I want to come.

00:04:29.000 And I was like, I think we need to just have a calmer single guest like we would normally do.

00:04:34.000 Thank you.

00:04:34.000 This Austin trip's been fantastic.

00:04:36.000 But, you know, we're going to have two people on tomorrow, so it'll be a big show again.

00:04:40.000 But it's been a blast here.

00:04:41.000 We got Lydia pressing the buttons. 0.95

00:04:42.000 Thank you guys for joining me in the kitchen once again as we're chilling in Austin.

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00:06:47.000 Let's get into that first story, and this, my friends, is a doozy.

00:06:52.000 From the New York Post, MSNBC banned from Kyle Rittenhouse trial after producer accused of following jurors.

00:06:59.000 Accused!

00:07:00.000 The police caught the person and took them into custody, issued them traffic citations.

00:07:06.000 This person following the jury bus from the Rittenhouse trial blew a stoplight to try and keep up with them.

00:07:12.000 That's crazy, huh?

00:07:13.000 Dang.

00:07:13.000 Let's read a little bit.

00:07:14.000 They say, the man who identified himself as James Morrison was pulled over Wednesday after he allegedly blew a red light while pursuing a bus to transport jurors.

00:07:22.000 He stated he had been instructed by a superior in New York to follow the jury bus.

00:07:27.000 Now we have the name, I'm not going to say the name of this producer because we have no evidence the producer was actually doing anything and a lot of people are accusing this producer of malintent.

00:07:35.000 I can tell you this.

00:07:36.000 The police said this guy was doing this thing.

00:07:39.000 He may have just tried throwing a producer under the bus by being like, Oh, it's my boss.

00:07:42.000 My boss made me do it.

00:07:44.000 I don't have evidence of that, but I can say the producer in question purged their social media across the board.

00:07:49.000 I watched it happen in real time.

00:07:51.000 That could just be because people are piling on because the judge said their names.

00:07:55.000 I don't think the judge should have to be completely honest.

00:07:58.000 I think the judge should have called out this guy, but I'll tell you this.

00:08:02.000 MSNBC knew, NBC knew, that this was jury tampering.

00:08:08.000 The judge had already warned about filming the jury.

00:08:10.000 The police said they believed the man was trying to photograph jurors.

00:08:14.000 And now it gets worse.

00:08:17.000 The judge says the bus is blacked out, so they can't see in or out the jurors.

00:08:23.000 You know how bad that is?

00:08:25.000 That's not a good thing.

00:08:26.000 And he said it was because we don't want the jurors to see anything from either side.

00:08:30.000 How thick do you think the wall of a bus is?

00:08:32.000 A millimeter?

00:08:34.000 Of steel?

00:08:35.000 When that bus drives past the courthouse to screaming, to bullhorning, those jurors can hear it all.

00:08:43.000 You can block the light, but you can't block the sound.

00:08:47.000 And the bus goes by and everybody knows.

00:08:48.000 You mean to tell me that you blacked out the bus so they couldn't see?

00:08:52.000 People got bullhorns.

00:08:54.000 These people are being brought into the courtroom under this guard because of these protests.

00:08:59.000 Two people got arrested for fighting.

00:09:01.000 A dude got arrested for having a knife.

00:09:03.000 These jurors know it.

00:09:04.000 Jury tampering, in my opinion, it's here.

00:09:07.000 Now the craziest bit of this?

00:09:09.000 MSNBC.

00:09:11.000 Corporate actors.

00:09:13.000 This is, I mean, what would you describe this as?

00:09:16.000 It's not activism, it's work.

00:09:18.000 It's crazier than that.

00:09:19.000 Mike Cernovich wrote about this today and he said MSNBC crossed state lines to jury tamper.

00:09:27.000 And I think there's a case to be made here especially with ... how biased MSNBC has been about this entire case I mean ... Joy Reid was just on her nationally syndicated television ... show talking about how Kyle crying is just white man tears ... which she doesn't care about she called Kyle Karen she ... compared him to to Kavanaugh.

00:09:46.000 And and these are people with obviously a bent they ... want a particular outcome in this story so to to think that ... they're innocent here I think is a misnomer we're still ... waiting to find out all the details we don't know exactly ... what was going on here but we do we do.

00:10:02.000 I mean, as far as like the bigger details, the exact intentions, whether this is going to be criminally charged or not, we don't know that.

00:10:09.000 But I posted a meme about this today on my Twitter account, and it shows Michael Myers in Halloween with the tagline, MSNBC creeping on jurors. 0.52

00:10:18.000 So, you know, we got to laugh at this thing because it's ridiculous.

00:10:21.000 And I think, you know, from my own personal view, this was more malicious than it was investigative journalism. 0.79

00:10:27.000 Investigating a jury who's being protected from public exposure?

00:10:31.000 Well, that's the other side of the story that they're saying.

00:10:33.000 I think it was last week, we did a segment on this show where I played an MSNBC video where they said, Gage Grosskreutz testified he had his hands up when he was shot.

00:10:44.000 And then they play a video from the trial of something totally different, of him talking about how he was scared for his life and wanted to be an EMT.

00:10:49.000 And I'm like, that's not the testimony.

00:10:51.000 And then we played the video where the defense said, it wasn't until you advanced on Kyle and pointed your gun at him that he shot you.

00:10:57.000 And he says, yes.

00:10:59.000 So what the, what was MSNBC talking about?

00:11:02.000 Then we get people saying, I haven't watched MSNBC to this capacity, but they're like, they show the prosecutor's closing argument and they don't show the defense.

00:11:11.000 Now, MSNBC was attempting to expose the identities of the jurors.

00:11:16.000 The police said- Let me show you this.

00:11:18.000 Kenosha Police Department said, police suspect this person was trying to photograph jurors.

00:11:24.000 Is this, I'll tell you this, I think it is, but is this a major corporate player, ideologues, cultists, trying to affect the outcome of a trial?

00:11:34.000 And if so, for what reason?

00:11:36.000 I was just gonna say, like, what if they would've gotten pictures?

00:11:38.000 Like, what story can they run with?

00:11:41.000 There's no story.

00:11:42.000 They probably would've leaked it.

00:11:44.000 But to what end? What would MSNBC's angle be like, hey, check this out, what's the tagline?

00:11:44.000 Yup.

00:11:51.000 Hey, we got some pictures of the jurors.

00:11:55.000 I mean, when I got attacked in Germany by Antifa, it was a mainstream media journalist that took a picture of

00:11:59.000 me and gave it out to all the Antifa members to come target and attack me.

00:12:03.000 And then they lied about the entire situation.

00:12:05.000 So there could be MSNBC journalists.

00:12:07.000 I mean, they're acting more and more like activists.

00:12:09.000 So they have a network of activists that work for them that obviously have connections to all

00:12:13.000 the large organized protests that have been happening all throughout this country.

00:12:17.000 I'm speculating here.

00:12:18.000 We have no solid proof or evidence of this.

00:12:21.000 But it's not far to speculate with just atrocious actions that MSNBC has been taken on the intelligence of the American people with their blasphemy and bullcrap that they've been trying to shove down everyone's throat. 0.97

00:12:33.000 It's ridiculous what they've been saying. 0.55

00:12:35.000 They've been off the rails and they've been more concerned about an agenda, a narrative, rather than of course any kind of even semblance of news reporting because they haven't been doing any of that.

00:12:45.000 And I think that's a fair argument to make here with everything that's going on here.

00:12:49.000 And it's just it's just ridiculous some people are ... saying that this is clear obstruction of justice some ... people are saying that they wanted to the jury to know ... that they're watching them some people say that they ... wanted the jury know that they have their identities who ... knows but but either way this stinks to high heaven we're ... going to find out later down the line what's going to ... happen here I'm just speculating.

00:13:08.000 I could see them wanting to prep a story like, meet the jurors from the Kyle Rittenhouse, and they have all of them already planned, and they already know who each of them are, and they find out what about.

00:13:18.000 And then they're just willing to throw this reporter under the bus.

00:13:21.000 So what's worse is gonna happen?

00:13:22.000 We're gonna get sued for 10 million bucks if we get found out?

00:13:25.000 Or this guy will go to prison for a felony, and they're like, we don't care, we can do it.

00:13:25.000 So what?

00:13:31.000 Throw him under the bus.

00:13:31.000 They're probably not gonna even cover his lawyer fees.

00:13:34.000 Oh, definitely.

00:13:35.000 Yeah, probably not.

00:13:36.000 They've already said I think it was like a rogue producer.

00:13:39.000 They're trying to claim like... So this was crazy.

00:13:42.000 When the story broke, the police said a man alleging to be with a national outlet.

00:13:47.000 All of a sudden... You know, I'm watching the live stream for the trial, and it's just nothing.

00:13:51.000 It's just the emblem, right?

00:13:52.000 Then all of a sudden, the sound turns on, the judge steps up, and I'm like, this could be a verdict!

00:13:57.000 What is this?

00:13:58.000 And the judge said, here's what happened.

00:14:00.000 Claiming to be with MSNBC.

00:14:02.000 Now, I didn't know if that was true, because I was like, guys.

00:14:04.000 You know, I tweeted, for all we know, this is Antifa pretending to be a reporter, and knowing someone's name, and throwing them under the bus, trying to escape the cops.

00:14:10.000 Like, let's be chill about this.

00:14:12.000 A reporter from Court TV said, I know the guy.

00:14:15.000 Yes, he does work for this organization.

00:14:17.000 And this is a normal practice.

00:14:20.000 Sounds to me... I won't give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:14:23.000 I won't play that game anymore. 0.54

00:14:25.000 You could argue that MSNBC was just like, we're gonna get a scoop and everyone else be damned.

00:14:31.000 Nah, I'm not gonna buy it.

00:14:32.000 When MSNBC lies about the testimony of the state witness to make the state look better, When they cut out the defense's arguments.

00:14:40.000 When Joy Reid goes on her show and says white male tears.

00:14:43.000 They want to affect the outcome.

00:14:46.000 The reason those protesters are outside screaming as the bus is coming in to drop off jurors is because of the likes of MSNBC and others like them.

00:14:56.000 So they definitely want to affect the outcome. 0.96

00:14:58.000 In my opinion, this dude may have been a useful idiot, but I think they were like, get the jurors information. 0.99

00:15:04.000 And you made a great point, Ben. 1.00

00:15:06.000 To what end?

00:15:06.000 To what story would they do?

00:15:08.000 They can't.

00:15:09.000 They can't do a story.

00:15:10.000 When the show's over, maybe.

00:15:12.000 And maybe they're hoping they have more information on the jurors than anybody else so they can find them fast.

00:15:16.000 But either way, If the jury finds out they're being trailed, and they apparently did.

00:15:22.000 Right.

00:15:22.000 That's jury intimidation.

00:15:24.000 Right.

00:15:24.000 So you think the jurors, after the fact, are gonna be like, oh, that was you who was following us in this landmark trial we're terrified of the outcome of, and making us fear for our lives?

00:15:34.000 Of course I'll do an interview with you!

00:15:36.000 Let's make a statement.

00:15:37.000 Why not?

00:15:37.000 Yeah, I can't, I can't follow, like, you ever hear, like, a dog chasing a car, like, dog doesn't know what he would do if he got the car.

00:15:45.000 I'm really curious, like, what would they have done if they would have gotten a moment?

00:15:48.000 I've seen a dog get the car, and what happened was it hit the wheels when the car was going 50 miles an hour and went flying up in the air and was...

00:15:57.000 Good metaphor for what happened to this person in MSNBC.

00:16:03.000 What good could have come out of it for this guy or for MSNBC?

00:16:07.000 He knew what he was doing.

00:16:08.000 He knew what he was doing.

00:16:09.000 Of course he did.

00:16:10.000 This is not about getting a scoop.

00:16:14.000 How could this be anything other than a form of jury intimidation and obstruction of justice?

00:16:19.000 Regardless of intent, it was jury tampering, obstruction.

00:16:23.000 I don't know about obstruction of justice.

00:16:24.000 I think that applies to like law enforcement investigation.

00:16:26.000 But this regardless of intent, they were tampering with the jury.

00:16:30.000 It's such a huge trial.

00:16:32.000 I mean, like, biggest of our lifetime.

00:16:33.000 Menendez Brothers, it didn't fit everything that was going on in the world.

00:16:37.000 This fits everything that's going on in the world.

00:16:40.000 And I really feel, I was talking to Lydia beforehand, like, you take a look at this, like, yes, it's, they're making it into something like black versus white, but really, it's somebody, it's the only armed citizenry in the world protecting small businesses during a time where there's an all-out assault on small businesses And really, this is like an iconic, symbolic show of force against anyone who wants to defend small businesses by any means.

00:17:10.000 The race thing really is crazy, too. 0.81

00:17:12.000 And the ideology thing is crazy.

00:17:13.000 Because I keep seeing the left saying, he showed up in opposition to Black Lives Matter.

00:17:19.000 And I was like, no one ever said that one time.

00:17:24.000 The testimony from the state witnesses and the defense was that he rendered aid to the Black Lives Matter protesters.

00:17:32.000 Sounds like he was there to help them.

00:17:35.000 But also stop riots, right?

00:17:37.000 So it's not like he's like, I hate you.

00:17:38.000 No, he's like, I'm here to help you, but please don't burn anything down.

00:17:41.000 This is unprecedented, though.

00:17:43.000 I mean, like, I'm trying to think of another time in history, let's just say in the past hundred years, where there have been such violent riots around the country that people in mass had to start calling in local favors and saying, like, could you come and protect our business?

00:18:00.000 Because Carte Blanche is just being destroyed across the board.

00:18:04.000 Has that ever happened?

00:18:05.000 Well, in the 90s there was riots in Los Angeles, there was racial riots in New York as well, and then of course in the 60s and 70s there was a lot of riots as well.

00:18:15.000 So this is not something that's uncommon.

00:18:17.000 Where people brought their own guns to protect small businesses?

00:18:23.000 The rooftop Koreans are of course talked about a lot, especially in the chat room.

00:18:32.000 What went down in the LA riots and why the Koreatown residents took to their rooftops?

00:18:38.000 The police left.

00:18:39.000 They were like, what do you expect us to do about it?

00:18:41.000 I don't know if it was the National Guard or the Army that was brought in, but they formed a perimeter.

00:18:45.000 And so you have all of these people just being like, we've been abandoned.

00:18:49.000 Completely.

00:18:50.000 Yeah, don't be surprised when the state abandons you.

00:18:53.000 The police aren't going to protect you like we saw in Kenosha.

00:18:55.000 They will leave.

00:18:56.000 So what happens?

00:18:58.000 You know, there's that famous viral moment where the guy was pulled out- I say viral, but this is historical- where he was pulled out of the truck in the LA riots and brutally beaten and stomped on the ground and left, you know, seriously injured.

00:19:08.000 And then during the George Floyd riots, the BLM riots- the great BLM riots of 2020, Twenty-five people are confirmed to have been dead due to those riots.

00:19:17.000 Now, if you go by the periphery, like, uh, related incidents around the riots, I believe it goes up to, like, thirty-four?

00:19:25.000 Thirty-three?

00:19:25.000 Thirty-three, maybe?

00:19:26.000 Yeah, I'm not sure.

00:19:27.000 And they also found, uh, after a building was burned down and completely destroyed, they didn't realize this, but after they cleared the rubble, they found a body.

00:19:35.000 Oh, man.

00:19:35.000 So, you have these stories, and don't be surprised when people come out.

00:19:38.000 Now the problem is, when someone like Kyle Rittenhouse comes out, he shouldn't have,

00:19:43.000 and he shouldn't have had to, but the rioters shouldn't have been there, and if the rioters

00:19:47.000 did, the police should have stopped them, but the police didn't.

00:19:50.000 This is what ends up happening.

00:19:52.000 Now the trial for Kyle Rittenhouse, as you mentioned, this is a question of whether or

00:19:56.000 not regular people have a right to say no to the extremists destroying their neighborhoods.

00:20:02.000 And as we can see with how Merrick Garland has been handling the AG, how he's been handling

00:20:06.000 the DOJ as AG, going after parents concerned about critical race theory instead of the

00:20:11.000 extremists and the riots.

00:20:14.000 I mean, I think it's fair to say we know who's being protected on this one.

00:20:17.000 Not just going after parents, but using counter-terrorism division members and using threat tags to go after specific parents because they went to a PTA meeting?

00:20:30.000 That's absolutely absurd and just highlights the insanity of the political persecution that's going after people for their beliefs rather than for their actions.

00:20:42.000 I've got a theory for you guys.

00:20:43.000 Briefly mentioned it before the show, but for everybody watching, I believe that ADA Krause, in the Rittenhouse trial, manufactured evidence, I should say this, manipulated evidence, provided a weakened version of that evidence to the defense in an effort to disadvantage them, prejudice the jury, and gain a Hail Mary pass, which in fact, has now given them a potential hung jury.

00:21:08.000 To simplify, Drone footage, they're calling it unicorn evidence, emerges, you know, right in the middle of the trial that the state has.

00:21:17.000 They present it.

00:21:18.000 They claim it shows Kyle right now is pointing his weapon at the Zeminskys, provoking Rosenbaum to attack him.

00:21:25.000 Now, you can't really see much.

00:21:27.000 Here's what we know is true.

00:21:29.000 The evidence that they presented was not the same evidence given to the defense.

00:21:33.000 The defense was provided with a, I believe it was a 212p video, a lower resolution, and apparently a cropped version.

00:21:44.000 So when the defense is reviewing the video, they say, I can't see anything here.

00:21:48.000 They're claiming that this shows Rittenhouse pointing the weapon.

00:21:52.000 The jury will never buy it.

00:21:53.000 The video is too blurry and grainy.

00:21:55.000 But then they go to trial, they go into the trial, and the jury is given higher-res video instead.

00:22:01.000 Now what ends up happening is, the defense didn't notice this.

00:22:05.000 They crafted their argument around, you can't see anything anyway.

00:22:08.000 But in the higher-res video, it's easier to see, and then the state made their argument.

00:22:12.000 The defense was unable to provide a defense because they were not given the evidence.

00:22:15.000 It wasn't until the judge said, I want to see this.

00:22:18.000 The defense played their low-res version, and the judge says, what is this?

00:22:21.000 I can't see anything.

00:22:23.000 Binger! 0.97

00:22:24.000 One of the prosecutors says, our version is clearer, isn't it?

00:22:27.000 And Krauss says, yes.

00:22:29.000 This results in shock among the judge and the defense, saying, what do you mean?

00:22:33.000 How is yours clearer?

00:22:34.000 We weren't provided that evidence.

00:22:35.000 And then Krauss says, no, it's just playing weird.

00:22:39.000 That line right there is evidence to me he realized, uh-oh, I've been caught.

00:22:43.000 Now, you may be saying, Tim, that's a wild theory, but I've brought receipts.

00:22:47.000 I send you now to my Twitter, where I produced a thread.

00:22:50.000 Now, this is not definitive.

00:22:51.000 It is just my hypothesis as to what may have occurred.

00:22:55.000 I think it's possible I'm wrong, because there's some elements here, and I'll explain.

00:22:58.000 But first, take a look at this.

00:23:00.000 We have an image from ElectionWiz.

00:23:04.000 He says, based on the work of John M. Curtis, DeathNotDarth, and ForFearg, it appears the Rittenhouse drone video was a cropped version of the video shown on Tucker Carlson.

00:23:14.000 So the image I'm presenting now on the screen, for those that are watching, you can see the Tucker Carlson video, and you can see the prosecution's video, and it looks like Someone cropped out Fox News' graphic, creating a strange video.

00:23:27.000 Now, here's the point I made.

00:23:29.000 The drone footage presented by the state is in a weird format.

00:23:31.000 1920 by 844.

00:23:32.000 What resolution is that?

00:23:33.000 I mean, it's 1080.

00:23:38.000 This appears to be because the full video was manipulated to remove either the graphic or something the state did not want to include.

00:23:45.000 Now that's me speculating, because I don't know who cropped that video.

00:23:48.000 They may have received it from somebody else.

00:23:50.000 But I brought receipts.

00:23:52.000 I want to say, how did the footage get cropped?

00:23:54.000 Krause on his laptop has FormatFactory, and I have the source right here included in my tweet.

00:23:59.000 In the image, you can see FormatFactory.

00:24:02.000 It's kind of hard to see.

00:24:03.000 FormatFactory is software that allows you to crop, mix, transcode video, but crop is highlighted on their website.

00:24:10.000 I point this out.

00:24:11.000 FormatFactory is not just transcoding, as per their website, it also crops video.

00:24:15.000 This explains why Krauss had Handbrake and FormatFactory.

00:24:19.000 Here's the source.

00:24:20.000 It says, provides audio and video converter, splitter, mixer, crop, and delogo.

00:24:26.000 Was Krause looking for software that would remove the Fox News graphic, D-Logo, and then decided to crop it instead into a strange format?

00:24:34.000 That doesn't make sense.

00:24:35.000 Now, I'm gonna pause for a second and say this.

00:24:38.000 At any rate, shouldn't this be called into question?

00:24:41.000 Your Honor, videos aren't recorded in 844p.

00:24:45.000 This video's been tampered with.

00:24:47.000 The video should be, if it's 1920, it should be 1920 by 1080.

00:24:51.000 I'd argue that this has got something cut out and thus should not be used.

00:24:55.000 Now, they might say, too bad the video shows what it shows, but I think right away there's an issue.

00:24:59.000 Let's move on.

00:25:00.000 And I said, now we all know it's a fact, the defense was given a lower res video.

00:25:04.000 This is not disputed, but it seems ADA Kraus got caught, as per the transcript.

00:25:08.000 This is a transcript of the moment when the defense realized they were not given the real evidence, in fact, they were given a low res version.

00:25:15.000 Two things stand out.

00:25:16.000 Binger says this isn't the same quality as our version, is it?

00:25:20.000 Sounds like Binger didn't know.

00:25:22.000 I mean, the dude seems to be rather inept and doesn't know gun safety, but I think from the transcript, he genuinely didn't know.

00:25:27.000 Krause says, no, our version's much clearer.

00:25:31.000 Wisco, for the defense, says, I got that from you.

00:25:33.000 I have the enhanced one, but that is exactly what we got from you.

00:25:36.000 We got it from Dropbox.

00:25:38.000 The judge says, so what you're showing me now is, this doesn't show anything.

00:25:41.000 This is what was provided to the defense?

00:25:44.000 Richards, on the defense, says yes.

00:25:46.000 Binger says Mr. Stute is on his way.

00:25:48.000 This is their tech guy, who's now going to come in and play the high-res version.

00:25:53.000 Wisco says, I don't know.

00:25:54.000 That's what we got from Dropbox, so if your version's clear, that means you didn't give us your version.

00:25:59.000 And Crow says, it's just playing weird.

00:26:02.000 Holy cow. 0.89

00:26:03.000 Wisco says, that's not how it works.

00:26:05.000 If it truly was a mistake, that somehow, this is what they argued, when they sent the video over email, because they sent it over email, it somehow changed the name of the file and compressed it.

00:26:17.000 That's not possible.

00:26:18.000 That doesn't happen.

00:26:20.000 But Krauss said it's just playing weird.

00:26:22.000 Why would he say that?

00:26:23.000 It's just playing weird.

00:26:24.000 He offered up an excuse to try and placate everybody who realized somebody was manipulating the evidence.

00:26:30.000 That, to me, is the quote in question.

00:26:33.000 If Krauss genuinely didn't know this happened, he would have been like, I don't know why it's doing it.

00:26:37.000 I have no idea what's going on.

00:26:38.000 Or he would have said nothing.

00:26:39.000 He was like, I don't know.

00:26:40.000 Our version seems to be clear.

00:26:41.000 Something must have gone wrong.

00:26:42.000 We'll fix it.

00:26:42.000 I'm sorry.

00:26:43.000 Instead he says, no, no, no, it's just playing weird.

00:26:45.000 Check it out.

00:26:47.000 Not only was the video compressed, the prosecution appears to have provided a cropped version.

00:26:52.000 Now, there's a potential explanation for this.

00:26:54.000 In the top video, you can see the car to the left.

00:26:56.000 In the bottom video, you can see there's much more space behind the car.

00:26:59.000 The video is cropped.

00:27:00.000 This could be the result of whoever uploaded this comparison to YouTube, so I don't know for sure.

00:27:05.000 We do know that 480x2x12 is...

00:27:10.000 Not the same as 1920x844, and both are strange formats.

00:27:14.000 There's also an explanation for how it got derezzed.

00:27:16.000 Some people say that when you put a 1920x844 in email on iPhone, the iPhone will compress it.

00:27:26.000 Now that may be the case, but there's no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt, and I have more.

00:27:30.000 They say, the file name that was given to the fence was different.

00:27:34.000 Okay, now iTunes won't do that.

00:27:37.000 I'm sorry, not iTunes.

00:27:38.000 iPhone, well, not iOS.

00:27:39.000 It has a smaller file size and a different file name.

00:27:42.000 But what will change a file name?

00:27:45.000 Compression software, which again, is on Krauss' computer, known as Handbrake, which many people have pointed out, below Format Factory.

00:27:52.000 Handbrake is transcoding software can render videos easily to other sizes and formats.

00:27:57.000 Source, from handbrake.fr, they say, it's a tool for converting video from nearly any format to a selection of modern, widely supported codecs.

00:28:05.000 The original format 1920x1080 somehow got cropped to 1920x844.

00:28:07.000 It gets further cropped, renamed, and compressed.

00:28:14.000 So there are potential explanations.

00:28:15.000 I don't have... That's as far as I go with, you know, presenting my case.

00:28:20.000 As far as I can... What I'll basically say is, I believe this is probable cause.

00:28:26.000 I believe I have shown probable cause to believe that ADA Krause tampered with evidence to try and cheat and win and disadvantage the defense and prejudice the jury against the defendant.

00:28:36.000 I don't know if it's definitive.

00:28:37.000 I don't know if he actually did these things.

00:28:39.000 But Handbrake, as many people have described, is in-the-weeds software.

00:28:43.000 You gotta be, like, to know what that is, because it's fairly obscure.

00:28:47.000 Format Factory.

00:28:48.000 To have both.

00:28:50.000 Cropping software and compression software.

00:28:53.000 When a video is compressed and cropped, raises a lot of questions.

00:28:56.000 And for Krauss to say, it's just plain weird.

00:28:59.000 It was a weird thing to say.

00:29:01.000 To try to make excuses.

00:29:02.000 I think we have enough to do this.

00:29:04.000 The judge has said, he has implied, he wants Krauss to go under oath on the stand.

00:29:13.000 You did a very good job of compiling and I'm glad you got the images to show there.

00:29:17.000 will be a reckoning on this software, on this video, I'm sorry. But he's gonna wait for

00:29:23.000 the jury to come back with their verdict. So we'll see how that plays out. But let me

00:29:27.000 know what you guys think about that rant I just did on all that evidence. And do you

00:29:31.000 agree with me?

00:29:32.000 You did a very good job of compiling and I'm glad you got the images to show there. My

00:29:36.000 only question is, this is a big case, right?

00:29:41.000 How was none of this checked beforehand?

00:29:43.000 I mean, as a video guy, I'm curious because I was saying earlier, on an image, to see whether it's been doctored or not, you can check to see how many dates of creation it has on it.

00:29:55.000 If it only has one date of creation, that means that was the date it was taken and it hasn't been touched since.

00:30:01.000 How did they not look into that, and why did they go to Tucker Carlson and whatever, like, you know, screen record or something?

00:30:07.000 I don't know if they got it from Tucker Carlson.

00:30:10.000 Some people have pointed out the video appears to be the same footage that came from Tucker Carlson, but it's cropped.

00:30:15.000 So what I'm simply saying is, this to me seems plausible, but that's why I said probable cause.

00:30:21.000 Probable cause is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:30:24.000 I'm just saying all this stuff lines up, and he's got these two specific programs for this.

00:30:29.000 I'd like to get him under oath and investigate this.

00:30:31.000 You did a great job, and the fact that you're here talking about this, like, this is a huge case.

00:30:36.000 Beforehand, wouldn't they ask questions like, where did you get this evidence?

00:30:41.000 I want to investigate to make sure that what you're saying lines up with where this imagery comes from.

00:30:47.000 This is a huge case.

00:30:47.000 Why is the file format a non-standard format?

00:30:51.000 And why are you the first one I'm hearing that from?

00:30:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:55.000 844P.

00:30:55.000 I mean, when I saw that right away, I was like, huh?

00:30:58.000 Yeah.

00:30:59.000 Everyone did last night.

00:31:00.000 You know I've been doing video editing since I was like 10 or 11 years old.

00:31:03.000 I started with Flash 4.

00:31:04.000 So I don't know how old I was.

00:31:06.000 I was a little kid.

00:31:07.000 I've had a computer.

00:31:07.000 I've been doing paintbrush since Windows came out.

00:31:10.000 I've always had a computer.

00:31:11.000 I did Flash.

00:31:12.000 I was doing After Effects.

00:31:13.000 I started making skate videos in After Effects because I'm a little kid.

00:31:16.000 I have no idea what he's doing.

00:31:17.000 And then I started getting into other editing software, making skate videos.

00:31:21.000 I've been working in video editing my whole life and computers and all that stuff.

00:31:24.000 I've developed apps.

00:31:25.000 And I saw this, and I'm like, that's not a normal thing.

00:31:28.000 Someone sent this, and it's clearly a manipulated video, but the defense is not technologically savvy.

00:31:36.000 Savvy?

00:31:36.000 Savvy.

00:31:37.000 Yeah.

00:31:37.000 Right.

00:31:38.000 A good example is when they were trying to explain algorithmic enlargement, and the defense said they use a 3D AI logarithm to produce and generate, and I was like, It's image interpolation.

00:31:53.000 You can simply say, I understand what he was trying to say, but it uses a computer program to predict what the image may look like.

00:32:02.000 It is not an image from the night in question.

00:32:04.000 Very simply stated.

00:32:05.000 They didn't have a firearms expert.

00:32:07.000 They didn't have somebody who could speak more clearly to that.

00:32:09.000 I mean, I'm going to go back to saying this is a huge case.

00:32:13.000 How much ineptitude Are we seeing here?

00:32:16.000 Because I'm just shocked that everything that you're breaking down here is not something that had been thought of or talked about before.

00:32:26.000 This is a huge case.

00:32:28.000 What's going on here?

00:32:29.000 Someone actually super chatted that I've demonstrated means, motive, and opportunity.

00:32:33.000 That's right.

00:32:34.000 Yeah.

00:32:34.000 Look, look, look.

00:32:36.000 Sure, but we need an investigation.

00:32:39.000 We need forensic analysis on his computer.

00:32:44.000 We know when he had those programs.

00:32:46.000 He's had them since January.

00:32:47.000 January 7th, he had a handbrake.

00:32:49.000 People say you can see the last time it was used.

00:32:51.000 Sort of.

00:32:51.000 I want to know when the defenses file was generated.

00:32:56.000 When the 212 video was created.

00:32:58.000 I want to see when the defenses was created.

00:33:00.000 And then I want to look at his computer.

00:33:02.000 I want to get him under oath.

00:33:03.000 They should seize his laptop immediately.

00:33:06.000 How much you want to bet he's already doing a DoD sweep on it, purging the hard drive seven times over?

00:33:11.000 Yep.

00:33:11.000 Of course.

00:33:12.000 Wow.

00:33:13.000 Because he probably knows this is coming.

00:33:15.000 Like, by the way, I mean, now we're not talking Krauss bingers.

00:33:18.000 It's like hearing his voice, it sounds like you're listening to somebody in junior high.

00:33:22.000 Right.

00:33:23.000 I already feel like I'm in idiocracy, where it's like you don't have to do that good of a job to get by with your job these days.

00:33:31.000 So this is one of the things I noticed as I was growing up was that all of our institutions are like held together by spider webs like no one is checking things like and I I when I do my work I try to go back and check everything I've done because I worked in a hospital and if you don't check things and make sure that your documentation is correct You can be in huge trouble.

00:33:50.000 You can use your license, the nurse in charge of you can use your license.

00:33:52.000 But apparently this is in this case, in this huge freaking trial, and I just wanted to say that I feel like we don't owe this prosecution any form of confidence that they are operating in good faith because they're not even competent.

00:34:03.000 So if this Super Chat is correct, I think it backs up exactly what I said.

00:34:07.000 So a super chat said, Weikau has the metadata. The video the defense received was

00:34:12.000 created 20 minutes after the original.

00:34:13.000 If genuine, they'd show the same. If it was created 20 minutes after the original,

00:34:17.000 that would imply that Krause was the one who made both.

00:34:23.000 He made the original file to admit it as evidence, and then he made the lower-res version to give the defense to weaken their ability to argue against it.

00:34:32.000 Because if it was a third party who made both, how would he have two different files and then give the wrong one?

00:34:39.000 That's possible.

00:34:39.000 It's possible somebody made both files, gave both a low-res and a high-res version.

00:34:44.000 I don't know why they would do that.

00:34:46.000 And then the prosecution had the two files, sent the wrong one over the defense.

00:34:50.000 Maybe.

00:34:51.000 I was in the military for six years, and I learned that oversight is just built into the system.

00:34:57.000 You have oversight, so, like, I hope nobody's gonna claim, oh, okay, this was a mistake, it was an accident.

00:35:04.000 There's gotta be oversight so these accidents don't happen.

00:35:06.000 Exactly.

00:35:08.000 I'm really perplexed right now.

00:35:11.000 I'm kind of flabbergasted.

00:35:12.000 I'm going to say it one more time, this is a high-profile case.

00:35:14.000 Let's talk about the ramifications of this fake evidence.

00:35:20.000 The prosecution won a major victory when they were able to get the judge to instruct the jury on provocation.

00:35:27.000 If you believe that Kyle Rittenhouse provoked the attack, then he must have exhausted all means of retreat, otherwise it is not self-defense.

00:35:34.000 I think it's something to that effect.

00:35:36.000 And if they didn't have this video footage with that argument about him pointing the weapon, there would have been no provocation instruction.

00:35:45.000 The jury would have been told, he was attacked, if you believe he acted in self-defense, acquit.

00:35:49.000 Here's what we got from Newsmax, and I don't know if this is true, but this is Newsmax reporting.

00:35:54.000 A Newsmax source reports they overheard Kyle Rittenhouse's attorney saying that he believed the jury is at a 6-6 split.

00:36:02.000 Mike Carter reports from the courthouse in Kenosha.

00:36:05.000 It could be a hung jury.

00:36:07.000 We've already heard rumors.

00:36:08.000 Jack Posobiec said he had a source claiming that there were two holdouts.

00:36:12.000 That he said, you know, ten people were in agreement, two were holding out.

00:36:16.000 That could mean that ten wanted to convict.

00:36:17.000 It could mean that two didn't.

00:36:19.000 It could mean that ten wanted to acquit and two didn't.

00:36:22.000 We don't know for sure.

00:36:24.000 But one thing that's interesting is that the defense made a verbal motion for mistrial.

00:36:28.000 Straight up mistrial.

00:36:30.000 That would mean Rittenhouse would be tried again.

00:36:33.000 We mentioned this the other day.

00:36:34.000 Cernovich said it's an advantage for the defense.

00:36:37.000 They'll get to do this whole thing over knowing exactly what the state has.

00:36:42.000 And here's what people have missed.

00:36:45.000 If everything I said about Kraus and the manipulation of this evidence is true, it'll get thrown out, and the state will have no opportunity to present that.

00:36:53.000 Furthermore, if Kraus did do something untoward, he could get in serious trouble, and the case may actually... Something beyond a retrial may happen if it turns out that they did something malicious.

00:37:07.000 It could actually... It might not be with prejudice, but it may actually create a political pressure where they can't retry Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:37:13.000 So, If we're looking at a hung jury and the defense is like, OK, we're going to we're going to get a do over.

00:37:20.000 Let's add a verbal motion for mistrial.

00:37:23.000 What people need to know is the judge has both motions to consider.

00:37:26.000 The judge could rule either way.

00:37:27.000 It's just more options for the defense.

00:37:31.000 I keep thinking about how the jurors are coming in on a bus where they can't see anything but they hear people screaming at them.

00:37:38.000 The people outside know who... It's like if you're let into a courthouse blindfolded and people all around you are screaming at you as you're walking in.

00:37:46.000 How horrifying and mind-twisting that would be.

00:37:49.000 And then to have to decide the fate of basically the people outside as well.

00:37:56.000 The people that are screaming at you.

00:38:00.000 Well, someone's decision is going to weigh on, if I rule this way, will there be consequences and other people hurt because of the way I rule?

00:38:08.000 So that's also another aspect that we have to consider here when we have these kind of egregious cases of people trying to take photos of them, people following them, the people screaming outside of them.

00:38:18.000 So there's a lot to play into this, but what did the judge rule?

00:38:23.000 Because I know the defense said mistrial with prejudice, then they reached for mistrial without prejudice.

00:38:32.000 What was his kind of understanding of this?

00:38:34.000 Did he decide on it, or did he say, I'm going to wait until the jury comes out?

00:38:38.000 The first time the defense made a verbal motion for mistrial with prejudice, The judge said, I'll take it under advisement, and then he basically was like, if there's one more violation, you guys watch yourself.

00:38:49.000 They made a formal filing for a motion, a mistrial with prejudice.

00:38:54.000 We didn't hear anything about that from the judge.

00:38:56.000 The verbal motion for mistrial, the judge basically said, I'm gonna wait till the jury comes back with a verdict, and we'll see.

00:39:02.000 Excuse me, hiccups.

00:39:04.000 I'm really curious here, maybe anyone's opinion on what's the impact going to be?

00:39:12.000 Is there any way that this can go where the impact of what's happening in Kenosha would be different?

00:39:17.000 Do you think it's just going to escalate no matter what?

00:39:21.000 Yep.

00:39:22.000 Well, you got the mainstream media putting fuel on the fire.

00:39:25.000 You got the mainstream media screaming, going crazy, trying to make this a race issue when it's not.

00:39:29.000 You got the mainstream media, I'm sorry, corporate media, as Malice would call them, literally fanning the flames here in every instant, just like they did last summer.

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:39.000 So, with that happening, I mean, people were, like, guaranteeing that something was going to happen.

00:39:43.000 We don't know exactly, but The conditions that created previous civil unrest are there for this current period.

00:39:50.000 Now, there's different times.

00:39:51.000 We're not going through the summer.

00:39:53.000 The summer is usually the hot period where there is a lot of civil unrest, but there are memes going around showing Ron Paul at the Federal Reserve disguising it with a Nike store saying that, this is a meme, this is not a real image, but it's a meme saying that he hopes that during rioting season people will target the Federal Reserve and think it's the next.

00:40:11.000 but but so so that there's a reason wasn't there a babylon be article about

00:40:14.000 that or something like i believe so yeah i i i don't know what have the writers

00:40:19.000 done i've seen the meme and i have to share the meme

00:40:21.000 uh... because it hit home to uh... to what's really going on here

00:40:25.000 uh... but but who knows what's going to happen here The conditions are there.

00:40:30.000 We can only hope and do our best to try to provide a reasonable side of the story.

00:40:36.000 To try to provide some kind of explanation that will decrease the risk of violence and escalation.

00:40:42.000 But the escalation has been there.

00:40:43.000 It's significant.

00:40:45.000 And I think it's only going to get even more significant.

00:40:47.000 The judge should have declared a mistrial with prejudice immediately.

00:40:51.000 Because...

00:40:53.000 What people have been saying and what the judge is saying is, you know, he's gonna wait for the verdict.

00:40:56.000 If it's a not guilty verdict, then the rulings are irrelevant.

00:40:59.000 The problem is, then the prosecution goes, we got away with it.

00:41:05.000 We tried our best, we cheated to our heart's content, but we didn't win.

00:41:10.000 That means they could do it again.

00:41:12.000 Now, there's also the potential warning that if a guilty verdict, you know, issue, if a guilty verdict does come in, the judge could be like, mistrial with prejudice?

00:41:19.000 Blame the prosecutors.

00:41:21.000 Well yeah, there's a story, there's definitely a story, no matter which way this swings, there's a story to escalate it, I feel.

00:41:29.000 I think it was Catherine Austin Fitz, she did some research on the 2020 riots alone, and she said, I may get the numbers wrong, but 35 out of 37 of the main parts of the damage done to infrastructure was done right around maybe within a quarter or a half mile of a central bank.

00:41:48.000 And her whole theory, like, I mean, again, this is just her theory saying that, like, you know, this is exactly where they're going to build up the smart grid.

00:41:56.000 You know, so I don't know. I'm not going to press on that one. But I love when I hear people outside the box

00:42:02.000 investigation being like, I'm just going to look at what else there is around all these spots that seem to be

00:42:08.000 unnecessarily damaged.

00:42:09.000 What is a smart grid exactly?

00:42:10.000 Well, a smart... So you know the Internet of Things.

00:42:14.000 It's part of their 2030 plan for all major urban cities to be digitized and to be run through a kind of, sorry I cut you off that, but to be run through a kind of centralized grid.

00:42:25.000 It's totally centralized and it's the device.

00:42:27.000 You know, over in China, I think Robert Spalding was talking about this in his, I forget what book, Stealth Wars or something like that, but he was saying like over in China, There's not even the need for the device anymore because there's so many cameras and microphones that the very next step is you walk out your door and you say Uber.

00:42:45.000 It acknowledges who you are by your voice or where you're standing and the camera and it comes by and picks you up and you're in the device.

00:42:53.000 So the smart grid is definitely what Luke was saying about it's creating the Internet of Things everywhere.

00:43:00.000 And mind you, SmartDust was being talked about in 2000.

00:43:04.000 Going into pavement and it's already there in Denver.

00:43:07.000 That's a big rabbit hole.

00:43:09.000 But also in China, if you jaywalk, they take a photo of you.

00:43:13.000 You don't need to show your identification.

00:43:14.000 You don't need to report to anyone.

00:43:16.000 They take a photo of you and a fine automatically is deducted from your bank account and you get a notification on your phone.

00:43:22.000 You've been punished for jaywalking on this street and we took this money out of your bank account.

00:43:27.000 That's the smart grid.

00:43:29.000 Smart dust.

00:43:30.000 You're taking us down the rabbit hole.

00:43:31.000 I like this, Ben.

00:43:32.000 Finally, we're getting started here.

00:43:36.000 I'll just say this, Allison McDowell is talking about where we're moving is total gamification.

00:43:46.000 By 6G everyone will have up to 12 digital twins, so avatars, all connected to this thing called the Sentient World Simulation.

00:43:55.000 If you've seen the last season of Westworld, it's basically a digital mirror of this world, but in real time.

00:44:02.000 Yes, yes.

00:44:02.000 I forget what their prediction was, but when it gets to minority report level, where it can start

00:44:08.000 predicting people's actions, what groups you'll end up in, what stores you'll end up at, when,

00:44:13.000 why, where, those types of things. Yeah, this is the digitization of everything. This is Mark

00:44:19.000 Zuckerberg's metaverse, but in real life. And this is how they're going to do it.

00:44:24.000 You're going to be in the pod, eating the bugs, living in the society where they will track, trace, and database every aspect of your existence to the nanoparticle of smart, intelligent dust and microchip particles that will be in charge of controlling every aspect of your human existence.

00:44:43.000 Colonization all the way down to our biology.

00:44:45.000 Just look up International Barcode of Life and see who some of the main donors to that.

00:44:50.000 Thank you, Mr. Gates.

00:44:52.000 Yeah, Mr. Bill Gates, I was just gonna say, Gates, Gates, Gates!

00:44:54.000 So hold on, so this is a big segue, right?

00:44:56.000 We're talking about a potential hung jury in a criminal trial, and now we're talking about... Coincidence.

00:45:01.000 Sorry, I just got off, I went off the road.

00:45:02.000 Well, you guys just, like, blasted off.

00:45:05.000 Yeah, we have to.

00:45:07.000 But I have a question, I mean, are you saying that you think that the riots and all the destruction we've seen is somehow tied to... I'll just put it simply, I mean, I think it's fair to say, an attempt to gain more control politically over people's lives?

00:45:19.000 and i think if you walk back from the smart dust stuff you know something it's

00:45:23.000 kind of freaky for people understand he said something like you know why is the police stand

00:45:27.000 down a lot of rights why is it that the media promotes the white economy has 0.87

00:45:30.000 fundraised for them the violence scares people and triggers a response where

00:45:35.000 they say give us more money to keep you safe

00:45:38.000 yeah you know like i'm just theorizing here uh... i I've been looking into this.

00:45:42.000 I think last time we talked about Agenda 2020, Agenda 2030 and everything like that.

00:45:48.000 I personally feel like you've talked about Davos, you've talked about World Economic Forum.

00:45:52.000 The whole idea is moving from stakeholder capitalism to shareholder, or maybe it's the

00:45:58.000 other way around, shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism.

00:46:01.000 You need an excuse to radically not just homogenize world economies and bring them all together

00:46:07.000 under one, but you need an excuse, a public-facing excuse.

00:46:12.000 So to me, and this is yet again another thing that Katherine Austen-Fitts says, is like

00:46:18.000 invisible threats are great.

00:46:20.000 You can call terrorism for one, and you can't tell who's the terrorist.

00:46:25.000 It could be anyone.

00:46:26.000 It could be your neighbor.

00:46:27.000 Be very suspicious of your neighbor's type of thing.

00:46:30.000 The idea about it is, again, this is just a theory, but I definitely feel that Davos wants to succeed in this Great Reset.

00:46:42.000 And so the forward-facing, like, what's the excuse?

00:46:45.000 How do we tell the future generations why this whole thing went down?

00:46:50.000 I'm not saying that, like, what's happening right now is fake.

00:46:54.000 And I'm not saying that anything along those lines, but opportunizing the...

00:46:58.000 Never let a good crisis go to waste.

00:47:00.000 Exactly.

00:47:01.000 And so to me, I absolutely feel that this needs to be spun in this direction.

00:47:06.000 And I'll just take it back to what I said about the Kyle Rittenhouse case and why it's so iconic is because it's a 17-year-old with a rifle At, in front of small businesses, which are being, I mean, I think I saw a woman today saying, I run a shop in Kenosha.

00:47:25.000 50% of shops have been shut down.

00:47:28.000 Small businesses shut down.

00:47:29.000 They never reopened.

00:47:31.000 A lot of them are moving out of the area.

00:47:33.000 There's something happening.

00:47:34.000 If you, if you like to call it all a coincidence, that's fine.

00:47:38.000 I personally don't mind taking several leaps of faith in order to at least think of what it could be.

00:47:45.000 What could be happening?

00:47:46.000 Because you'll never get the full story.

00:47:49.000 You know, I don't like the big conspiracy stuff.

00:47:51.000 I think it gets too grandiose and it makes too many assumptions.

00:47:54.000 And I think there's actually some evidence to suggest this is definition, never let a good crisis go to waste.

00:47:59.000 And that is, when the COVID stuff first started, You were not allowed to talk about it on social media.

00:48:04.000 It was the craziest thing.

00:48:05.000 When the first news came out of Wuhan of the weird stuff, I made some videos on YouTube. 1.00

00:48:10.000 YouTube didn't notice, didn't care.

00:48:12.000 Then there was this period where they were like, you cannot talk about this, you'll be demonetized.

00:48:16.000 And they were exerting pressure on channels that were actually saying, hey, there's an outbreak.

00:48:20.000 I think initially, The establishment was like, this is panic stuff.

00:48:24.000 We don't want anyone talking about this.

00:48:26.000 And then once it hit, and the establishment politicians were like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:48:31.000 We can use this.

00:48:32.000 We can use the crisis.

00:48:34.000 15 days becomes two years.

00:48:36.000 Then all of a sudden YouTube's like, actually, we're gonna allow you to start talking about it.

00:48:41.000 And then, truth be told, when the more and more videos start popping up about it, the fear spreads and it allows a lot more corrupt politicians and powerful CEOs, big pharma corporations to be like, now's our chance to use fear to gain power.

00:48:56.000 I mean, there's different realms of thinking here, but there's a lot of setup here, especially by individuals like Bill Gates that wasn't just funneling money into the mainstream media, because he gave hundreds of billions of dollars to the mainstream media.

00:49:07.000 That buys a lot of influence. 0.79

00:49:09.000 There's smart people who know what's going on.

00:49:11.000 It's so annoying to do the cliché Bill Gates.

00:49:15.000 No, no, no.

00:49:16.000 It's important to mention here, because this is a man that has far more influence than we even know about, and we already know.

00:49:22.000 Hundreds of millions of dollars to the mainstream media.

00:49:24.000 A new report just came out. 1.00

00:49:25.000 Give me some evidence other than the guy says stupid things to the press. 1.00

00:49:28.000 He doesn't say stupid things to the press. 1.00

00:49:30.000 He buys off the press. 0.99

00:49:31.000 He gave them 319 million dollars to media outlets like CNN, NBC, NPR, The Atlantic, the BBC, The Guardian.

00:49:38.000 All are on his payroll.

00:49:40.000 All are on his paycheck.

00:49:41.000 What does that mean?

00:49:43.000 Explain to me beyond, I saw a guy do a bunch of things that make me question him.

00:49:52.000 Look, I don't like the guy.

00:49:54.000 I think he's got weird, weird views on the world.

00:49:57.000 I don't trust him.

00:49:57.000 I think he's a bad person.

00:49:59.000 I look at his history and how he started Microsoft and how he moved through Silicon Valley.

00:50:04.000 Much like Steve Jobs, also not a good guy.

00:50:06.000 But the problem I have with this, like, here's a guy who did a thing, it's like, yo, what's happening in the world right now involves thousands of people.

00:50:13.000 We can talk about Donald Trump's role in 15 Days to Slow the Spread, but I don't think Trump was a big player in exactly what was going on.

00:50:19.000 I think he got swept up in it.

00:50:20.000 We could talk about Joe Biden's attempt at a vaccine mandate we could struck down, and then everyone's like, but, but, but, you know, Bill Gates.

00:50:26.000 But Biden's not there!

00:50:27.000 Biden is not a human being who's not even consciously there.

00:50:31.000 There's other people behind him.

00:50:32.000 There's special interests behind him.

00:50:33.000 There's major corporations behind him.

00:50:35.000 I know.

00:50:35.000 There's globalists behind them.

00:50:36.000 And we can talk about how Pfizer has been dumping money into these companies, into the media outlets.

00:50:43.000 Sponsored by?

00:50:43.000 Sponsored by.

00:50:44.000 Getting no liability contracts.

00:50:45.000 And why not?

00:50:46.000 Why shouldn't we talk about them?

00:50:47.000 They're huge influence players.

00:50:48.000 They're big players.

00:50:49.000 There's puppets and there's players.

00:50:51.000 I want to talk about the players, not the puppets.

00:50:53.000 They've always done this.

00:50:53.000 The Koch brothers are doing this, and George Soros is doing that, and Bill Gates is doing this.

00:50:57.000 But they are.

00:50:58.000 You want me to give you a list of the 2,000 billionaires who are all doing this?

00:51:02.000 Look, I get it.

00:51:03.000 It's frustrating for me because people talk about Bill Gates in some superficial manner, like, did you know that he gave money to the media?

00:51:09.000 What does that mean?

00:51:11.000 Tell me what that means.

00:51:12.000 I know he owns influence.

00:51:13.000 The dude has had influence for decades.

00:51:15.000 They all do.

00:51:16.000 This one story does not say anything about the fact that we have corruption.

00:51:20.000 It's one story after another story after another story.

00:51:22.000 The man is literally trying to control the weather.

00:51:25.000 It's his obsession.

00:51:27.000 He's making GMO mosquitoes.

00:51:28.000 If you think this person... You're obsessed.

00:51:30.000 No, I'm not.

00:51:30.000 Yes, you are.

00:51:31.000 No, I'm not.

00:51:31.000 Absolutely not.

00:51:32.000 I'm concerned.

00:51:33.000 You can name George Soros and the DAs he's been funding.

00:51:36.000 This is what frustrates me about... Exactly, and why shouldn't you?

00:51:39.000 What frustrates me here is you get a story from June 2021 where BARDA, which is a bioresearch lab in the US, I believe through HHS, gets a weaponized smallpox drug approved.

00:51:52.000 I believe it was approved, but I could be wrong about this.

00:51:54.000 Bill Gates comes out and says, I'm worried about weaponized smallpox.

00:51:58.000 And all of a sudden, the conspiracy realm lights up saying, Bill Gates is doing whatever.

00:52:02.000 And it's like, dude, he read the news!

00:52:03.000 That's not what we said.

00:52:04.000 I never said anything about that.

00:52:05.000 I didn't say you did.

00:52:06.000 I'm saying the issue I take is... Yeah, there's other people that take it too far.

00:52:09.000 Of course.

00:52:10.000 And so the issue I take is like, I've just had so many conversations about the obsession over Bill Gates.

00:52:15.000 Yeah, I think it's a red herring to go after the individuals because, like, if you have a corrupt king that's terrorizing his subjects, you want to remove that king, you're going to get another king.

00:52:24.000 And he may or may not terrorize.

00:52:25.000 What you want to do is disrupt the monarchy and change the system so that there is no possibility for another king.

00:52:31.000 You mean replace the puppets?

00:52:32.000 So the puppets look all nice and different and there's a red puppet and a blue puppet?

00:52:36.000 Yeah, avoid that.

00:52:37.000 No, no, no.

00:52:38.000 I want to get the puppeteer.

00:52:39.000 You want to fix the system so that one guy can't become a multi-trillionaire.

00:52:44.000 Listen, here's the problem.

00:52:47.000 Right now, we have a culture, and culture is more powerful than politics and law.

00:52:52.000 As I've mentioned numerous times, the easiest way to explain it is, there's wacky laws in Massachusetts, you know, they have a law from the 1600s, you can't put a pie in your windowsill on Sunday afternoon because it attracts bears, and now no cop will enforce that.

00:53:05.000 So when you get a hundred million people and you're standing before them and they say, tell us what's happening.

00:53:12.000 You say, this Bill Gates guy spent money in the press.

00:53:15.000 They go, what am I supposed to do with that?

00:53:17.000 I wouldn't say that.

00:53:18.000 No, stop.

00:53:18.000 Or you say, do not let the government put their boot on your neck.

00:53:22.000 Do not let them mandate medical procedures, influence the culture.

00:53:25.000 I have never, never, I don't like doing these bits where it's like, did you know person X did X?

00:53:31.000 Or did Y?

00:53:32.000 You have all of these YouTubers who make videos about people, people, people, people, people, people, and then regular people who are standing at ready saying, I want the world to be a better place for my kids.

00:53:42.000 I want to make sure I have my freedoms and my liberties.

00:53:44.000 What should I do?

00:53:45.000 You should be mad at Bill Gates.

00:53:46.000 And they go, okay, I won't fight in any meaningful way for principles, I won't focus on what's happening in my community, I won't vote locally, I'll complain about Bill Gates.

00:53:55.000 Then those people go out to rallies, and they hold up big signs saying Bill Gates. 0.63

00:53:59.000 And then when regular people show up, they go, look at the crazy people. 0.95

00:54:02.000 Look at the crazy people.

00:54:03.000 So this is what frustrates me whenever it comes to the vaccine stuff.

00:54:06.000 Everyone's like, let's have a debate over science and we're not scientists.

00:54:09.000 And I'm like, why?

00:54:10.000 Why?

00:54:10.000 When we can just say we are advocates for freedom.

00:54:13.000 We are American citizens who know the history of this country and the founding fathers who said we demand freedom and respect and tell the people instead of trying to pretend to be a scientist who's going to argue about medical efficacy.

00:54:24.000 We can just say, I reject your attempts to mandate a medical procedure on me.

00:54:27.000 The two are not exclusive.

00:54:29.000 You could have both.

00:54:30.000 And I don't just obsessively talk about Bill Gates.

00:54:32.000 I talk about him.

00:54:33.000 I talk about all the other very influential people who are doing that.

00:54:36.000 But I also talk about solutions.

00:54:37.000 I also talk about personal responsibility.

00:54:39.000 I also talk about the need for you to wake up from this trauma-based mind control and psychosis that people are going through by watching the mainstream media, by watching what Bill Gates funds, by watching what all these other individuals finance in order to trick you in life.

00:54:51.000 Nobody knows or cares about Bill Gates.

00:54:52.000 I think they do.

00:54:53.000 You live in a bubble world.

00:54:53.000 I disagree with you.

00:54:55.000 No, I don't think I do.

00:54:56.000 Because if people actually do find out the reality of the true existence of this world, which many of them are right now, many people are waking up.

00:55:02.000 When people see the true reality of it, they start understanding the players behind the scenes here, then they could start implementing policies where they're not victimized by these players and their games that they play on the rest of the population.

00:55:15.000 We don't get towards a convention of states, assuming that's what we want.

00:55:18.000 We don't get towards a populist uprising because a bunch of people went outside complaining about Bill Gates.

00:55:22.000 I'm not saying complain about Bill Gates.

00:55:23.000 I'm saying understand the problem and be able to diagnose it correctly without playing their games of, here's a puppet.

00:55:31.000 This puppet's going to make things better.

00:55:31.000 Vote for this puppet.

00:55:33.000 No, no, no. 0.89

00:55:33.000 There's bigger players behind the scenes. 0.89

00:55:35.000 And if you understand, hold on, I'm not done yet.

00:55:37.000 I let you talk.

00:55:38.000 I let you talk, right?

00:55:39.000 Your billionaire changes every week.

00:55:40.000 It's pointless.

00:55:42.000 I disagree.

00:55:44.000 We go through the months and months of George Soros as the guy funding the DAs.

00:55:49.000 We are not seeing parents rise up and revolt because they found out about Bill Gates.

00:55:53.000 We're seeing their children and their families being affected.

00:55:56.000 They're seeing their culture be destroyed.

00:55:58.000 And it's so common.

00:56:00.000 Who's doing that?

00:56:01.000 Who's responsible?

00:56:03.000 Who's doing all this bad stuff to him?

00:56:04.000 It doesn't matter.

00:56:06.000 It does.

00:56:07.000 I think it's a result of the system.

00:56:08.000 If you have a technocracy removing one technocrat, another one will fill the void. 0.99

00:56:12.000 So we want to figure out a system that's... That's a politician, Ian.

00:56:15.000 Same with politics.

00:56:16.000 You remove one president and another one.

00:56:16.000 Same with our politics.

00:56:18.000 Because there is an inner circle.

00:56:20.000 That inner circle deserves to be addressed.

00:56:22.000 We have different approaches.

00:56:23.000 I think it's important, along with going after the solutions, along with understanding the full problem that we're seeing in front of us, to be able to fully...

00:56:34.000 And the challenge we have is that none of this is relevant because what matters is culture.

00:56:42.000 Culture building.

00:56:43.000 Politics is downstream from culture.

00:56:46.000 And a bunch of people who have said, I've identified a source of the problem and I believe it's Bill Gates, are going to convince no one and change nothing.

00:56:53.000 The truth, but you know what? But you know what? People want a symbol for their oppression.

00:56:58.000 So they isolate an individual for a long time. It was George Soros and still is.

00:57:03.000 Now Bill Gates is filling that role. Every single story, every quote, every comment has brought up.

00:57:08.000 And I'm just wondering, like, are we having a debate about this one guy we don't like?

00:57:11.000 Are we going to talk about how we're going to influence the culture so that these laws,

00:57:13.000 these laws can't exist? The culture is downstream from the technology that's basically functioning

00:57:17.000 as a gatekeeping system, allowing what culture is seen where. And then you got to say who built

00:57:22.000 that centralized technology.

00:57:24.000 And Bill did build some of it, but a lot of people have built a lot of central—and are in the process of building centralized technology systems.

00:57:32.000 I think Allison McDowell is really a fascinating human being.

00:57:36.000 I would love to know some of these solutions.

00:57:39.000 I agree with what you're saying.

00:57:41.000 Especially when we point at certain people, I want to know what is the actionable step.

00:57:47.000 So when you're talking about solutions, I would love to hear some of what you think would actually be solutions for people in mass families or whatever, like at-home, in-the-home solutions, and do any of them have to do with DMT?

00:58:02.000 DMT is a personal decision that individuals should do their own research, their own homework on.

00:58:06.000 We're all on DMT, by the way.

00:58:08.000 Yes, of course.

00:58:09.000 We all go through it when we dream every single night.

00:58:12.000 That's something that should be up to the individual to look up to.

00:58:16.000 But but again I think understanding exactly what's ... going on is the first step towards dealing with the ... problem obviously we have a very sick Society obviously we ... have a very corrupted Society understanding how it's ... corrupted who it's corrupted by and how we can not be ... corrupted by it I think is the first step whether it's.

00:58:33.000 You know school the school the indoctrination centers ... whether it's the medical centers that keep charging ... people $30 for an aspirin that rob people of their wealth and ... health whether it's the banking system whether it's all the ... systems that are thrown and shoved down our throats every ... single day that are scams Ponzi schemes against the ... American people we when we are victims to it when we are ... blind to it we give all of our power to these individuals.

00:58:59.000 And I'm saying these individuals are doing all this I ... think that's an essential part to break it all down and ... to say hey you know what maybe I won't vote with my ... dollar at this particular business maybe I won't put my ... child in an indoctrination Center maybe I will look into ... homeschooling maybe I won't depend on all my food from.

00:59:15.000 maybe I'll start looking into farming maybe I'll start ...

00:59:19.000 building a community of people that it could actually have a ...

00:59:22.000 support system around me and I think just acknowledging like ...

00:59:26.000 hey there's some big bad people out there some of them ...

00:59:28.000 are sociopaths understanding that reality and not blaming ...

00:59:32.000 everything on on generalized topics like like culture ...

00:59:35.000 culture is absolutely important but you build that ...

00:59:38.000 culture from a sense of reality not from a sense of I just ...

00:59:41.000 want this let me go get this this is why.

00:59:43.000 You know the freedom of mind it.

00:59:46.000 I used to work for a bunch of nonprofits.

00:59:49.000 I used to fundraise for Greenpeace.

00:59:51.000 This was about for a month and a half.

00:59:52.000 I worked for a couple really big national non-profits and I was a nation's best fundraiser.

00:59:58.000 I was able to walk up to a random person on the street, make them hand over their credit card to me in 30 seconds.

01:00:03.000 This is what the job is.

01:00:04.000 You've seen them on the street.

01:00:05.000 They say, hey, come over here and talk to me.

01:00:07.000 And I will tell you the one thing that never convinces anybody is blaming a person they don't know.

01:00:13.000 They're confused by it.

01:00:14.000 How does that affect me?

01:00:15.000 Who is this guy?

01:00:16.000 What does this mean?

01:00:16.000 What does he do?

01:00:18.000 Bill Gates has bought influence in the media, he's manipulative, he has these weird ideas, and he's not a doctor, and they say, that's weird, what does he do?

01:00:27.000 I don't understand.

01:00:29.000 In order to give someone enough information to understand why Bill Gates is a bad person, and why George Soros is a bad person, and why these other

01:00:36.000 billionaires, because there are many and many, many of them, is a bad person, you'd have to put them in a

01:00:42.000 school for years to really break down all this stuff. And so what you end up having is you have a

01:00:46.000 bunch of people who've been in this world for a really, really long time. They know and they

01:00:50.000 can easily recall the history of the, you know, how Microsoft came to be, how they got their

01:00:55.000 first deals, they went and they bought it, the arguments between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, Steve Jobs,

01:01:00.000 the things he did, they were very, very just dirty individuals. And I mean, like, like, just

01:01:05.000 willing to exploit and rip off and corrupt.

01:01:09.000 And we know these things.

01:01:11.000 But then there's a guy who's a truck driver.

01:01:13.000 And you go to him and you say, all of your problems stem from Bill Gates as a billionaire who does these things.

01:01:20.000 And he's gonna be like, look, guy, I have no idea how that's going to give me any information I need to get my kids food.

01:01:26.000 But then we can bring it back to their world.

01:01:28.000 We can speak to them on their terms and things they understand and say, hey, should you be forced to do X, Y, or Z by your government?

01:01:36.000 And it's like, this is the opening of the door.

01:01:36.000 And they'll say no.

01:01:39.000 You say the things that directly affect you, that are causing you problems, can be solved if you wake up and start paying attention.

01:01:46.000 But what we get a lot of is George Soros, the left has their Koch brothers, the left has their Mercers, and I've been in these activist groups and I've seen just how ineffective it is to say a word that means nothing to somebody, a name that means nothing to somebody, but think you're giving some great revelation.

01:02:03.000 Joe Rogan just pointed out to Alex Jones when he was on the show on Tuesday that Alex has the problem of knowing.

01:02:09.000 And so when he tries explaining to people and he says really like things that are so out there they don't understand, it actually makes them push away from you.

01:02:17.000 You cannot walk up to a person who's never experienced and who doesn't understand the nitty-gritty of what's going on, immediately jump, crank up the dial to 11, and think they'll listen to you.

01:02:27.000 We're not doing that we're not jumping up to random people ... we're having a talk show where we delve deep into ... complicated topics the reason people listen to us is because ... it's an honest real conversation that isn't afraid ... just to be on the surface level we go deep down and I ... think this is why this podcast is so special because we could.

01:02:45.000 Do that and I disagree with your characterization we're ... not talking to random people on the street here we're ... talking to an informed public that is paying attention and I ... don't think everything that happens in this world is a ... coincidence I do think there's bad people out there I do ... believe there is going to you to be really bad things that ... are going to continue to continue to happen unless ... people realize that these people are actually doing it ... and I think that's also a part of the solution as well as to ...

01:03:10.000 responsibility for yourself as a human being and ... that's something I preach from the very beginning be ... informed of what's going on don't be a victim of these ... people move away from them and support systems and ... structures and businesses that align with your ... principles with your morality and what you believe ... deep down in yourself.

01:03:30.000 When I think of, like, this whole system and, like, how we fix... I think of it kind of like game theory and military theory.

01:03:35.000 I think of, like, Band of Brothers taking a bunker.

01:03:37.000 When you have a target or when you're focusing on, like, who did that?

01:03:41.000 Like, let's say you're talking about Bill Gates or whatever.

01:03:43.000 You don't want to, like, yell out, hey, Bill, and, like, go directly at him.

01:03:47.000 Because that's... then you become an easy target.

01:03:49.000 You kind of want to flank the target and, like, confuse the target and, like, I really and ultimately persuade that.

01:03:57.000 I mean, ultimately, we're not at war with each other.

01:03:59.000 We're on the same team trying to help society.

01:04:02.000 We just have different methods.

01:04:03.000 So you want to kind of convince the target.

01:04:04.000 And I think what Luke is doing is looking through a telescope backwards, because when you start with the people and not with the ideas, people don't understand what you're trying to say when you tell them, when you come up, when you tell people about this idea and you say something like, and I really think that Bill Gates is a symptom of this.

01:04:23.000 They may understand it better because that idea affects them directly.

01:04:27.000 Centralization affects people who drive trucks.

01:04:30.000 It affects people who work at small businesses.

01:04:32.000 And this is something that they will understand much better than saying, George Soros is our enemy.

01:04:37.000 It doesn't matter what George Soros is doing.

01:04:39.000 I'm just trying to drive a truck and keep my family in one piece.

01:04:41.000 People want a symbol of something that they... They want a symbol to represent what they believe oppresses them or causes them problems and harm.

01:04:49.000 And for a lot of people, it's very easy to just name a person.

01:04:53.000 The thing about Bill Gates, he's a bad guy.

01:04:55.000 He's a pretty, pretty bad guy.

01:04:57.000 He does a lot of bad things, a lot of bad ideas. 0.99

01:04:59.000 He's, in my opinion, a sociopath.

01:05:02.000 But we're not talking about the other thousand billionaires that do the exact same thing. 0.76

01:05:07.000 And this is the issue I take with it.

01:05:09.000 It would be impossible for us to actually go through the huge list of all of these powerful

01:05:13.000 global elites of old money and new money, of arrogance and ego, of ill repute, people

01:05:19.000 who are callous, utilitarians who believe in that some people can be sacrificed, who

01:05:24.000 are willing to commit atrocities.

01:05:27.000 People like Fauci, for instance.

01:05:28.000 I mean, this guy is dark.

01:05:31.000 The stuff he's been funding, the lies he said, these are people who just don't care.

01:05:35.000 And there are so many of them.

01:05:37.000 But it can change if people are told very simply, like simple ways to improve their

01:05:42.000 lives, to give them information about basic things that are going on.

01:05:47.000 And you open the door and allow them to walk through it.

01:05:49.000 You don't run up to them, jump drop kick them and smash them through the window and try and push them outside because they'll freak out.

01:05:55.000 So when it comes to, you know, promoting a cause and trying to convince people to say sign up for a non-profit, become a member, or it's something they've never heard of.

01:06:05.000 The one thing I would always do when it came to, you know, how do I convince someone to want to save the forest?

01:06:09.000 You have to make it relatable and start with something they understand because, in my opinion, it's disrespectful to demand someone know something they've never heard of.

01:06:19.000 So if you approach it with, here's the guy, here's the bad guy, he's the villain, and then people, like I said, go out with signs saying, the villain.

01:06:27.000 Everyone else looks at that and says, that is meaningless to me.

01:06:30.000 I disagree with your characterizations, with Linda and yours as well, because I think saying, hey, don't talk about this, don't talk about this, isn't going to help anything in the long run.

01:06:40.000 And if you've looked at what I've been talking about for a very long time, if you want to look for the person that's responsible for all your woes, for all your problems, you have to look in the mirror.

01:06:50.000 And once you look in the mirror you start ... understanding the personal responsibility that you have ... within yourself to understand what's going on and not fall ... for the traps I think it's important to understand the ... traps as much as it is the people who lay the traps and I ... think we if we understand how people lay the traps why they ... laid traps what traps are out there I think that's ... something that we should not be afraid to talk about I think ... that's something that intrigues people I think that's ... what people want to know people want to see about this ...

01:07:15.000 Want to see all this different information about ... this and and it's not a telescope where we're looking ... opposite way I would say you're in a dark room just ... bumping your head walking around not knowing what's ... going on you're going to continue bumping your head ... until you try to shine some kind of light on it and on the ...

01:07:31.000 Hitting your head so it stops hitting your head so ... that's my perspective that's my point of view personal ... responsibility something I have always preached that's ... why I created we are change is about being the change ... that you want to see in the world not just blaming ... somebody else calling the bogeyman I agree with some ... elements and I even address this before in previous ... videos where I said hey.

01:07:51.000 We shouldn't maybe even be calling these guys the elites ... because we're giving them all of our power we shouldn't be ... giving them all of our power because we have the power and ... only our ignorance fuels them and gives them all of our ... power so I think waking up to the really bad people it's not ... just you know all the other billionaires they're not ... creating GMO mosquitoes they're not creating ... technology that's going to be embedded microchipped in ... people that's going to control their fertility.

01:08:18.000 There's different levels.

01:08:22.000 They're not hanging out with people like Jeffrey Epstein and all these other individuals.

01:08:27.000 There's the other level of depravity of psychopath, evil behavior that deserves to be called out.

01:08:34.000 So real quick, the release of the GMO mosquitoes.

01:08:37.000 That was in Florida, right?

01:08:39.000 What was the purpose?

01:08:40.000 A company or a lab had to do that work, which means there has to be employees, there has to be people, there has to be research, there has to be funding.

01:08:46.000 Funding probably came, you know, I assume you're saying it came from Bill Gates.

01:08:50.000 Can you name the other people involved in that project? 0.98

01:08:52.000 I could probably, I don't want to talk out of my butt.

01:08:54.000 I'll have to research it and get you the particular facts on it. 0.89

01:08:57.000 But when it comes to the scientific community, there's a thing called the Bill Chill.

01:09:01.000 That freezes a lot of people in the scientific community from even criticizing Bill Gates on a lot of his projects because of the large amounts of investment that he has in this entire industry through the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

01:09:12.000 How do you stop someone from working for a company that would do something like make genetically modified mosquitoes to be released?

01:09:18.000 You put him in a dark room for seven days.

01:09:20.000 Oh my gosh, does that work?

01:09:22.000 Until they start producing and dodging his DMT and they realize the error of their ways.

01:09:26.000 I'm sorry, I had to segue there.

01:09:28.000 I think, I think in the past, you know, um, certain, uh, you know, Jordan Peterson talked about enforced monogamy and it triggered a bunch of people who thought he meant like the police would come and make women get married to like incels or something.

01:09:40.000 But what he meant was, uh, I could be getting this wrong, but my understanding is that society just as a whole culturally was like, this is what is normal.

01:09:48.000 And there are a lot of things that are enforced, not through law, but through culture and society, that people would say, like, I can't do that.

01:09:55.000 We used to have it.

01:09:56.000 We've lost it to a great deal because... I guess you could argue multiculturalism, in the definition used by the right, that you have a bunch of different groups that don't view each other as part of the community, and so they don't actually feel like they're committing a wrong against someone that matters.

01:10:13.000 We see this with activists, we see it with police, you know, the Antifa people would always say, snitches get stitches.

01:10:18.000 And so if somebody within, like, Occupy Wall Street, for instance, would commit a serious crime, they'd be like, don't report it to the police.

01:10:25.000 Basically saying, we feel no remorse and no harm.

01:10:25.000 Stitches get stitches.

01:10:29.000 We feel no remorse.

01:10:30.000 We regret nothing if we allow this person who wronged us to go free or to wrong someone to go free.

01:10:35.000 There was a few people who were, I'll just say, raped in Occupy Wall Street.

01:10:41.000 And the occupiers warned everybody, we'll beat you up if you tell the cops this happened.

01:10:45.000 See, when you have a cohesive community and people have scruples, they would feel within their heart, like, I can't do that because it's just wrong to do it to somebody else.

01:10:55.000 But when you have people willing to work for these companies where they say things like, I don't care that other people are being harmed by this, you get, like we were talking about a bit, like the banality of evil, some commonplace thing where people are just willing to do it.

01:11:07.000 So my view of a lot of this is, If, um, if you tried bribing a cop, what's the likelihood he would take the bribe in the United States, right?

01:11:16.000 Highly unlikely.

01:11:17.000 Depends what state, depends what the bribe is.

01:11:19.000 But for real, for the most part, it is relatively unlikely.

01:11:22.000 You get pulled over.

01:11:23.000 The cop walks up and says, you are speeding, and you say, officer, here's a thousand bucks to make it all go away.

01:11:28.000 The cop's going to be like, I even- You could step out of the car, buddy.

01:11:28.000 Oh my gosh.

01:11:31.000 He's going to be like, you're under arrest.

01:11:33.000 Yeah.

01:11:33.000 That's scruples.

01:11:34.000 Even if he needed the money.

01:11:35.000 Even if he needed the money.

01:11:36.000 Because he's probably being recorded and everything.

01:11:39.000 It's $5 in Africa.

01:11:40.000 Exactly.

01:11:41.000 Now there are some cops who would be like, I am desperate.

01:11:44.000 Let's talk.

01:11:45.000 Because people get desperate.

01:11:47.000 And there's corrupt cops.

01:11:48.000 They're going to be like, I'll take some free money. 0.85

01:11:50.000 Now go to Russia. 0.73

01:11:52.000 In Russia, it's implied.

01:11:54.000 The cop pulls you over, you broke the law, you say, what do I owe you?

01:11:56.000 And he goes, you know, give me 20 bucks.

01:11:58.000 I was talking to Kim.com and he explained to me how he even bribed a cop to pull his friend over so he'd win a race.

01:12:03.000 Because they're for sale.

01:12:04.000 You see, when you have a culture that believes in each other, believes in morality, has a moral framework, things like what you're describing can't happen.

01:12:12.000 How do we build that moral framework back up?

01:12:15.000 We explain to people our ideals.

01:12:18.000 We explain to them very simple values and principles.

01:12:22.000 We explain to them, here's what's happening right now.

01:12:24.000 You're being negatively impacted by high gas prices.

01:12:26.000 Okay, well this is the result of a large political system and it has a lot to do with how you participate in politics.

01:12:33.000 It's very hard to vote your way out of it, to be completely honest.

01:12:36.000 But you know, I grew up and I saw a lot of these videos and I saw a lot of these, you know, I've known about Alex Jones for a really, really long time and I always felt like none of this stuff has been particularly effective in getting people to actually build that culture where they'll say, I am unwilling to commit this act.

01:12:54.000 Instead, where we have now is how Michael Malice described it.

01:12:56.000 Most people are willing to prefer safety over freedom.

01:13:00.000 So when they come out and they say, we are hereby stripping you of all of your rights, they say, okay.

01:13:05.000 I'll give you a simple example.

01:13:07.000 Guns.

01:13:08.000 I could come out here all day and say, Mike Bloomberg is the problem.

01:13:11.000 trying to take away your guns.

01:13:12.000 But to a regular person, that's not an argument.

01:13:15.000 To a regular person, they're sitting there saying, someone broke into my house and stole

01:13:17.000 all my stuff and beat my wife. 0.82

01:13:19.000 And then I say, Michael Bloomberg is the reason.

01:13:22.000 And they'll be like, I don't know what that has to do with...

01:13:25.000 Or I say, hey, have you considered, you know, purchasing a firearm to protect yourself?

01:13:29.000 And then they say, you know, I've never been a big fan.

01:13:32.000 I've been worried and I've heard these things.

01:13:33.000 Let me give you some basic information on gun culture and understanding so that you can have something to protect yourself, so that you won't be victimized again.

01:13:39.000 Hold on.

01:13:40.000 Then this person goes and buys a gun.

01:13:42.000 They experience gun control for the first time.

01:13:44.000 They get angry.

01:13:44.000 They say, hey, wait a minute.

01:13:46.000 It's my constitutional right.

01:13:48.000 Then they start spreading those ideas around everybody.

01:13:49.000 Here's what affected me directly when I was wronged.

01:13:53.000 Michael Bloomberg spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to get guns banned.

01:13:55.000 Tom Steyer as well.

01:13:57.000 But telling people these names doesn't change the culture, doesn't inspire them to buy weapons, to exercise their rights, and to protect their families.

01:14:03.000 Why can't you do both?

01:14:04.000 Why do you have to have a blinders at the cause of the problem rather than just focus on the solution?

01:14:09.000 Why can't you do all of that?

01:14:11.000 Because the main critical point that you have of me right now is that as I bring up a lot of these other people, right?

01:14:17.000 So I bring up like the Bloombergs in this scenario. 1.00

01:14:19.000 I think you should build the culture and talk about Bloomberg.

01:14:23.000 I think you could do both and they don't have to be exclusive to each other.

01:14:26.000 I don't think you need blinders and not talk about the root cause of the problem while, of course, pushing the culture, which I think is also absolutely important.

01:14:34.000 You do want to map the system.

01:14:35.000 Like you were saying, if you're in the dark room, you don't want to bump your head.

01:14:37.000 You need to map it so you know what's where.

01:14:39.000 You need to understand it.

01:14:40.000 But, um, and like what you said earlier, Tim, you don't want to put make villains on a poster.

01:14:44.000 Everyone's like, down with person X. Because what'll happen is all the other villains eventually, when it builds up to a point, will throw that guy under the bus.

01:14:52.000 And then you'll get this sociological cathartic faux release.

01:14:56.000 But the system hasn't changed.

01:14:58.000 They just removed one of their own, and I think that's what happened to Jeff Epstein.

01:15:02.000 He was part of a big organization, and they threw him under the bus.

01:15:08.000 To a certain degree.

01:15:09.000 Yeah, and I gotta say, for the most part, what I've seen is actionable when it comes to conspiracies and naming big names and stuff like that.

01:15:17.000 What's actionable for most people isn't something that's going to do much for their lives.

01:15:22.000 I think, Luke, you are an exception because you're okay looking into the abyss and looking for solutions as well.

01:15:30.000 A lot of people, when they hear that stuff, they don't feel inspired to look big and to have some kind of grandiose 30,000 foot view of what's happening.

01:15:40.000 They really just want to protect their family.

01:15:42.000 If you think about it now, like evolutionarily, we would look out into nature to see if there was something hunting us.

01:15:48.000 And we would always do that.

01:15:49.000 Now people do that with news and they're looking through, you know, and I'm generalizing here, but for the most part, like you have the protectors watching news trying to figure out, am I safe?

01:15:59.000 Am I in a safe world?

01:16:01.000 We're not looking through the trees trying to figure out if predators are there anymore.

01:16:04.000 So it's ancient architecture we're talking about.

01:16:09.000 So most people with conspiracy, it downgrades their prefrontal cortex and they start going back into the hindbrain.

01:16:15.000 They start getting You know, scared, unnecessarily, it doesn't do anything for them.

01:16:20.000 I think that's the majority of people.

01:16:23.000 Some people, looking at the big, looking at the specific actors like you, I think it actually, like in the film Divergent, I think it actually turns you on so you start realizing, no, I gotta look at the deepest and darkest so we can start building back from there.

01:16:39.000 It's really tricky though.

01:16:41.000 When it comes to conspiracy, I think over 90% of it is fluff, much of it intentional fluff, and then only a little bit of it, and I know you had Alex on and you were pulling up articles and stuff like that and seeing that, yeah, some of this stuff really does pan out.

01:16:57.000 For most people, conspiracy does nothing good for them.

01:17:01.000 So me, I'm more of like an archetypal conspiracy theorist. 0.98

01:17:04.000 I know there's some shady shit going on. 0.98

01:17:06.000 I know that. 0.99

01:17:07.000 But when it comes to really pointing at who's involved, I'm not going to say that's a tool you shouldn't pull out of the tool belt, but it's probably like a handgun.

01:17:16.000 It's probably like a rifle.

01:17:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:17:18.000 It's for select moments, I really believe.

01:17:21.000 Because most people, they can't handle what that means when you say, did you know X, Y, and Z, they're trying to do this to you and your family?

01:17:30.000 They don't know what to do with that, so they shut down, I think.

01:17:33.000 Well, I think it's confusing to a lot of people to introduce foreign concepts to us.

01:17:39.000 You know, I have to talk about how when we do, when I do news segments, I try to be careful to a certain degree because you don't want to be esoteric.

01:17:46.000 There are a lot of people we have on the show and I talk to them and they're like, hey, you know, how do we get the podcast bigger?

01:17:50.000 And I was just like, just keep in mind that a lot of people who tune in might know something and be concerned about something that's like in the culture, in the now, in the know.

01:17:58.000 And you can talk about the nitty gritty details they don't understand.

01:18:01.000 So I actually, I just recorded something with Joe Rogan. I don't know when the episode goes up,

01:18:04.000 but there were a few points where I was like, if I want to make this story quick,

01:18:08.000 it's going to be too esoteric for the average person. And we'll have to actually break down

01:18:12.000 the terms, the individuals involved. So we were talking a lot about the Rittenhouse trial

01:18:17.000 and naming the individuals who were involved in all, as all the witnesses. And it's like, who's that?

01:18:22.000 What does that mean?

01:18:23.000 What is this?

01:18:23.000 So one moment was I mentioned a duty to retreat.

01:18:26.000 And he says, no, no, no, stop.

01:18:28.000 You're glossing over that.

01:18:29.000 What does that mean?

01:18:30.000 Because Joe knows the average person is not going to understand if I talk about this as an expert.

01:18:36.000 I shouldn't say expert, but as like someone in the weeds.

01:18:38.000 So, the challenge is finding that balance.

01:18:41.000 There are a group of people that want to know, that don't like the powerful individuals who are playing these games, who are manipulating and influential.

01:18:50.000 The issue I take for the most part is, I feel like, as I mentioned, you don't actually solve the problem, but there will always be powerful individuals.

01:18:57.000 There was this stockbroker guy.

01:18:59.000 And I can't remember exactly what happened, but he got called out, and I think it was during AMC or whatever, it was during GameStop, and he said, you know the crazy thing is, when I got into this, I was the little guy fighting the establishment, and today I realize I'm the establishment, and I just didn't realize that happened.

01:19:14.000 So there will come a point in time where, say like for this show for instance, and the money we spend, people are going to be livid, furious, outraged at what I'm funding.

01:19:24.000 On Foundation for instance.

01:19:25.000 We're trying to create, I'll give you a good example.

01:19:25.000 Amazing.

01:19:28.000 We're trying to create software to make it so that no one can ever be censored again.

01:19:31.000 But this means really, really bad people with really awful ideas won't be able to be censored.

01:19:35.000 You're gonna get a bunch of people being like, Tim Pool has been funding these programs to give evil people platforms so they can never be shut out of society, and they're wrong, and they're violent, and they're angry, and they're evil, and then they'll start focusing on me because there'll come a point where I gain too much influence or power in some capacity.

01:19:51.000 Sometimes evil people take an Uber.

01:19:53.000 You don't blame Uber for it.

01:19:55.000 We're talking about different levels though.

01:19:57.000 I mean, this is like entry level compared to like the hundred billion level.

01:20:02.000 There's a big difference between the two.

01:20:03.000 What I mean to say is just like...

01:20:07.000 We need to inspire people to hold true to principles and ideas that they understand very easily.

01:20:14.000 Because when I would do segments, I'd often say, it's not fair of me to assume you guys have the time to watch the news every day like I do.

01:20:22.000 So if I watch the Rittenhouse livestream all day just glued to it for the court trial, the average person can't do that because they have jobs and they have work.

01:20:29.000 So they say, I want to turn on someone I trust who's going to give me what I believe to be the correct information and will do their best.

01:20:37.000 And so I often try to say, I will do my best to give you the information because I know you don't have the time to do it. 0.97

01:20:41.000 That is not to say I think anyone is stupid. 0.98

01:20:43.000 No, I think... 0.93

01:20:45.000 That people are looking for a service to be provided, and I have to respect the fact that they don't have the time to know everything.

01:20:53.000 Dude, I was thinking of your metaphor of looking through the forest.

01:20:56.000 But there's a counter argument to make this, to make here, because I don't think we should be kind of talking down or talking to people like children.

01:21:02.000 I think there are some advanced level people that do want to hear advanced level stuff, and sometimes entertaining that I think is good, but I understand you kind of lose people by going too far down the rabbit hole.

01:21:13.000 But I think some some of the people do need to go down there just to say, hey, it's pretty interesting down here.

01:21:19.000 You may want to know what's going on.

01:21:20.000 It's kind of like if you're you guys are like scouts, you know, you're looking like your metaphor looking in the woods for danger.

01:21:25.000 You're looking at the news and you're looking through and it's like you're both seeing the enemy army coming.

01:21:29.000 And Tim is like, we're being flanked from the left by cavalry.

01:21:32.000 The archers are behind to watch out for the spearmen in the right.

01:21:35.000 And Luke's like, yeah, but you see the king?

01:21:37.000 That's not actually the king.

01:21:38.000 The king's the guy next to him.

01:21:39.000 That guy with the armor is not the king.

01:21:41.000 Princess Amidala was actually- So don't send all your forces to fight and go after this king because it's a fake king and it's a fake illusion.

01:21:48.000 You're gonna waste all your time and energy while the real bad guy gets away and then sets up more horrible traps and more armies against you.

01:21:54.000 Thank you, Id.

01:21:54.000 But here's my argument.

01:21:55.000 I'll put it this way.

01:21:57.000 I'll counterpoint.

01:21:58.000 You've got the feudal lord's, you know, palace or whatever.

01:22:02.000 And all of the subjects are standing around and all the guards are standing there and they're all bowing.

01:22:08.000 And then you go up and say, you know, that, you know, the Lord is the problem and look at all the bad things he's doing.

01:22:14.000 Or you just go to all the people and say, hey, let's all come together and ignore that.

01:22:20.000 Do this thing.

01:22:20.000 I'm not saying ignore Bill Gates or anything they're doing.

01:22:22.000 What I mean to say is if the confidence is broken by regular people and they just do their thing and believe in their values and principles and focus on that, It's a grassroots effort, then all of a sudden the chain breaks, and these powerful individuals have no ability to influence.

01:22:39.000 The point I was making is with like the lab in Florida, wherever they made these mosquitoes, because they did this... I don't know when they did this, but there's this big mosquito release thing.

01:22:45.000 Just a couple months ago in Key West, Florida, they released it.

01:22:48.000 Let me give you a better story.

01:22:50.000 Cassandra Fairbanks wrote about this.

01:22:52.000 There's a Fauci, the NIAID funded maximum pain research on primates and primates are intelligent.

01:23:02.000 I mean, this is like, this is brutal stuff.

01:23:04.000 Who is the person who's willing to conduct this painful research, maximum pain?

01:23:11.000 These people, the ideas they have and the things they're willing to do

01:23:18.000 shouldn't exist in my opinion.

01:23:19.000 The people who are raised in this world have come to a point where they say,

01:23:24.000 I have no qualms with inflicting maximum pain on primates to see what happens.

01:23:29.000 At a certain point we need to be like, how did you get to that point?

01:23:33.000 Because it's not Bill Gates who made him do that.

01:23:35.000 Now certainly money is an influencer, but how do we make sure the moral framework, and I'm gonna be maybe offensive to all the atheists and secularists, I believe that as we begin losing the Christian moral framework, You end up with people who don't believe in any kind of moral framework, and that's what you get from wokeness. 0.82

01:23:53.000 You get people who believe that there is no truth but power.

01:23:57.000 These are the kind of people that, you know, you eventually see in World War II-era Japan, and you end up with the Nazi Party, the people who are willing to commit atrocities against others because they don't feel that they have... there's no remorse.

01:24:10.000 If the values are instilled in an individual to respect others, to hold a certain moral framework, and I believe We were all raised in a Christian moral framework.

01:24:17.000 I'm not saying the religion, I'm not religious, but that moral framework has in it the Fifth Amendment, the Sixth Amendment, all of these things.

01:24:24.000 You end up with people who would sit there and they'll say, we'll pay you a million dollars to torture these monkeys, and they'll be like, I will never do that.

01:24:30.000 And then you don't have to worry about these horrifying things.

01:24:32.000 Someone would say, hey, we want you to genetically engineer mosquitoes that are going to go around. 0.90

01:24:35.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's too much for me.

01:24:38.000 I'm not going to do that.

01:24:39.000 When you're talking about values, I think you're nailing it on the head.

01:24:42.000 And narrative, like, you know, One thing that holds a country or a tribe or whatever together is a collective myth.

01:24:50.000 It holds certain values in it, and we have that in our own way.

01:24:55.000 And that's one thing that's kind of breaking down now, is our collective myth.

01:24:59.000 And what I feel really causes for that breakdown is Dividing, not just the family structure, but dividing us from one another and putting an intercessor, some kind of technological intercessor.

01:25:13.000 And I think the solution... We talked about this when Joe Rogan was just on recently.

01:25:18.000 He said, you know, like, what compelled Kyle Rittenhouse to go there?

01:25:22.000 And he said, anarchy and chaos in the streets.

01:25:25.000 And I know that the word anarchy actually has a little bit deeper meaning to that, which I won't go super into, but it's more about localism as well, like locally controlling certain things and connecting with one another.

01:25:39.000 And what happens when you go local?

01:25:40.000 I'm not saying this is the answer.

01:25:42.000 But when you have more of a community, a real community, you live your values with one another.

01:25:48.000 You don't have a piece of technology in between you and like, oh no, I couldn't hear those last five words that you just said because the algorithm blocked it.

01:25:56.000 You know, community, real connectedness.

01:25:59.000 I think that's something that is going to uphold our values because I do think that it's the erosion of our values that we're seeing a lot right now.

01:26:07.000 To be a little obnoxious, here we have Bill Gates and here we have his mini-me, Dr. Fauci, who's been working and collaborating with him almost every step of the way since COVID started.

01:26:18.000 But that's a separate topic.

01:26:20.000 The community building is absolutely key.

01:26:22.000 It's absolutely essential.

01:26:23.000 Because if you don't have a strong group, if you don't have a family, if you don't have core values, you of course will be picked apart, you of course will be manipulated, you of course will be thrown into a situation where you become your very own worst enemy, and you will be susceptible to these traps, these games that I've been talking about before.

01:26:41.000 And I think a lot of people have been, I think a lot of people are suffering, a lot of people are not in a good state, and I think that's only going to continue Not when we just change the culture, but when we address the root cause of everything that's happening here.

01:26:53.000 And we addressed the importance of personal responsibility, self-education, and making yourself aware of not only the things outside of you, the important people controlling, pushing things, but also the things inside of you and the things that you can make a big difference in when it comes to your own personal choices and decisions you make in your life.

01:27:12.000 Sometimes it's as simple as meditating for 10 minutes, sitting in a room, and examining your life and deciding where you want to go as a human being.

01:27:19.000 I think that's a big beginning.

01:27:20.000 You know what's frustrating?

01:27:22.000 I despised Bill Gates way before it was cool.

01:27:26.000 You know?

01:27:26.000 Because I knew a lot about computers and stuff growing up, and there's a film called The Pirates of Silicon Valley.

01:27:31.000 I love that film.

01:27:32.000 Yeah, and I'm like, these guys are just Bad people.

01:27:35.000 I remember during Occupy Wall Street, they made a shrine for Steve Jobs when he passed.

01:27:39.000 And I was like, what is wrong with you?

01:27:41.000 These people are all authoritarian.

01:27:43.000 But I'll just really simplify the point I was trying to make is, I don't feel like talking about Bill Gates is solution-oriented.

01:27:52.000 I understand why people don't like him.

01:27:54.000 I understand he does bad things.

01:27:56.000 And I think it's important that people know why he's a bad dude and the bad things he does.

01:27:59.000 I especially think it's important to point out that Joe Rogan can give his opinion and the media just attacks him.

01:28:05.000 And then Bill Gates does and they cheer for him when neither are doctors.

01:28:10.000 I would say he gets away with this because he has the cover because he has no one paying attention to him.

01:28:14.000 He cares what the public thinks about him.

01:28:17.000 That's why he buys the best PR staff to hide all of his Jeffrey Epstein connections, which were far more extensive.

01:28:24.000 If people found out about exactly what he was going on, he wouldn't be able to get away with More than half of the stuff that he's already getting away with.

01:28:31.000 So he hides under the cover of darkness. 0.86

01:28:33.000 And I think that's why shining a light on him would show you a big room with him slapping you upside the head.

01:28:39.000 And once you see someone slapping you upside the head, you know exactly what's going on and you could actually deal with that particular problem.

01:28:45.000 So that's my perspective, my point of view from this entire kind of saga.

01:28:49.000 It might be wrong.

01:28:50.000 I could admit if I'm wrong sometimes, I might be wrong.

01:28:52.000 I might be delusional.

01:28:53.000 I might be too much down the rabbit hole.

01:28:55.000 I could admit that as well.

01:28:56.000 So the challenge I see is, it's not just Bill Gates.

01:28:59.000 It's not just George Soros.

01:29:00.000 It's underneath that.

01:29:01.000 I mean, Vladimir Putin.

01:29:03.000 What is he worth?

01:29:05.000 $700 billion, they argue?

01:29:06.000 Like secret money, hidden?

01:29:07.000 He's got like the biggest house in the world.

01:29:09.000 I don't know if he's actually worth whatever that is.

01:29:10.000 Maybe it's $70 billion.

01:29:11.000 I don't know.

01:29:11.000 Maybe I was wrong.

01:29:12.000 No, no, no.

01:29:12.000 I'm thinking $700.

01:29:14.000 Elon Musk has almost $300 billion.

01:29:17.000 In value.

01:29:19.000 $194 for Bill Gates.

01:29:20.000 They say that Vladimir Putin, it's like secret money he doesn't want anyone to know about. 1.00

01:29:23.000 I certainly don't believe all the stupid Russiagate garbage nonsense. 1.00

01:29:27.000 But you look at all of these countries and they're all playing their influence games. 1.00

01:29:31.000 So yeah, Bill Gates is one of the worst.

01:29:34.000 Bloomberg is one of the worst. 0.98

01:29:35.000 Steyer is one of the worst. 0.62

01:29:37.000 These people are funneling money and doing a ton of really bad stuff.

01:29:39.000 But my view of it is kind of like, imagine your house is on fire and there's big raging flames.

01:29:45.000 And so you're like, the first thing we have to do is go to the electrical socket in the basement where the fire started and tell everyone that's where the fire started.

01:29:53.000 That's not.

01:29:54.000 My attitude is kind of like, why don't we get everybody to put the greater fire out, and then we go to the source of the fire and disable it, like turn the power off, or something like that.

01:30:03.000 Or, you know, you could try and find a way to shut the power off first, but, you know, where the fire is starting from... It's a fair point to say that I think there's arguments for both our sides on this one.

01:30:16.000 One could be that if there is a leak in a ship, And the water is flooding up the ship, and you say, we must bail the water, you're not stopping the fact the water is still filling up.

01:30:25.000 We must plug the hole, yeah.

01:30:26.000 Right, so to Luke's point, it's like, everyone find the hole first, and then we bail the water.

01:30:32.000 Luke's point is, hey, there's a crazy guy putting more holes in the boat.

01:30:36.000 Right now there's a crazy guy adding more fuel to the fire right now and it's going to get really out of hand unless we stop this one guy who started the fire and making the fire that much worse right now as we're speaking.

01:30:46.000 And I'd like to point out that there is another kingdom that is paying people to come put holes in our boats so let's see if we can fix that.

01:30:52.000 It's super interesting though because even Lydia's back there and she's got her own like ways of viewing it.

01:30:57.000 For me this is the community this is just a microcosm of the community It takes all kinds.

01:31:04.000 Somebody was just on Aubrey Marcus's podcast, it was a rabbi, Mordecai, I think, and he was saying like, you know, I have no problem with conspiracy theorists because I don't invest myself in what they believe.

01:31:18.000 I think back, who were they in the tribe?

01:31:20.000 Who do you want the paranoid, always vigilant person in the tribe to be?

01:31:24.000 Probably the lookout, right?

01:31:26.000 And they are valuable in that way.

01:31:29.000 And part of what we're talking about with values is we don't have to pretend like people in our community don't get on our nerves and don't trigger us in some ways.

01:31:39.000 But the bottom line is if we can't see any value in what's happening in front of us, then we're missing some kind of lesson or gift in it.

01:31:48.000 Which is why it's hard with what's going on in the country right now, but I'm really taking a look at it.

01:31:53.000 When I look at the conspiratorial lens of what's happening in the world right now, I'm more curious.

01:31:59.000 My ideas are way out there.

01:32:00.000 First Contact happened thousands of years ago.

01:32:03.000 We just don't know what we're looking at.

01:32:04.000 Technology is part of it.

01:32:06.000 I won't even go into explaining it, but what I'm saying by that is I really think that reality is weirder than most any of us can put into words, so the best thing we can do is find some kind of harmony together.

01:32:20.000 Whatever that actually looks like, some kind of harmony together, and that does not happen without community coming together under some premise, under some story.

01:32:28.000 Let's go to Super Chats!

01:32:30.000 But I will also say, just for this show, Ian and I argue, and we have very different ideas.

01:32:36.000 Luke and I just argue, we have very different ideas.

01:32:38.000 I think that's why, like, I think a goal of the show is, maybe we get a little too heated, maybe I should have been more chill about it.

01:32:45.000 No, it's fine!

01:32:46.000 I want more...

01:32:47.000 More passion, more fire.

01:32:49.000 Let's get it all out.

01:32:50.000 I mean, these are important conversations that we got to get through somehow.

01:32:54.000 And there's no other way but to kind of go at it.

01:32:57.000 We could be fake to each other.

01:32:58.000 We could pretend to believe like we're somebody that we're not. 1.00

01:33:01.000 I'm sick of that bull crap. 0.99

01:33:01.000 I'm sick of people talking down to each other and pretending that they're somebody that they're not. 0.99

01:33:05.000 This is my point of view.

01:33:06.000 This is yours.

01:33:07.000 We disagree.

01:33:07.000 Let's go at it.

01:33:08.000 Let's not be, let's not play patty cake and pretend it was real.

01:33:12.000 It has to be real.

01:33:13.000 And that's what I'm saying about, you know, what I go for.

01:33:15.000 Um, I, I, I lost a lot of subscribers after the election of Donald Trump.

01:33:20.000 And I, and I said, I don't think the fraud narrative is correct.

01:33:24.000 I think it was the shadow campaign narrative.

01:33:26.000 I think they changed the rules and I'm not going to sit here and just pretend I believe something, hoping my views go up.

01:33:30.000 That's not what I do.

01:33:32.000 And if I get angry, maybe I shouldn't.

01:33:33.000 But, you know, if we have an argument, I think it's a good thing.

01:33:36.000 And then everyone in the comments is allowed to tell me I'm wrong and argue back.

01:33:41.000 And that's why I think this show is good.

01:33:43.000 I would advise reviewing the tape to the point where you think you might have been overboard and just see.

01:33:48.000 Because when you see yourself, you'd be like, yes, I was or no, I wasn't.

01:33:51.000 It's okay to have natural emotional reactions.

01:33:53.000 If you're angry, you're angry.

01:33:54.000 Let it out.

01:33:56.000 If you hide it and try to pretend like it's not there, it festers and builds up and explodes in another area of your life.

01:34:01.000 So it's important to express yourself and assert yourself as a human being and not play these bullcrap social rules that are just made up and are nonsensical.

01:34:09.000 Pretending.

01:34:10.000 I mean, there's being respectful and stuff like that.

01:34:13.000 And sometimes people get angry, but I really, there are a lot of shows, there are a lot of commentators that can't, you know, there's a lot of people on the right.

01:34:21.000 Yeah.

01:34:21.000 that when a narrative emerges, I see them jump right on with whatever narrative makes

01:34:26.000 the most sense.

01:34:27.000 I'll give you the example today.

01:34:29.000 When the judge said this NBC reporter and this other person, producer, tons of people

01:34:34.000 immediately said this producer did it.

01:34:37.000 And my response was, for all we know, it was Antifa driving, trying to track the jury down,

01:34:42.000 and then just lied and said they were up to the press because we've seen that happen before.

01:34:46.000 I think it's, you know, we've got to be very careful not to immediately just jump on bandwagons or just do it for tribal reasons, but there are some people with big channels, with powerful followings, that would absolutely just say whatever they think.

01:34:58.000 People want to hear if it gets them more and more viewers.

01:35:00.000 But I'll tell you this, when I came out and argued with Luke, a bunch of people left.

01:35:04.000 Well, you know what?

01:35:05.000 Look, you're free to leave if you don't like it, but I'm not gonna sit here and just pretend my feelings are something else in hopes that people stay.

01:35:10.000 Right.

01:35:10.000 You probably evoked something inside them that they weren't ready to handle, and that's important to have on a show.

01:35:17.000 You know, because a lot of people are waiting... I could be wrong.

01:35:19.000 Well, you know, the thing is, is like, either one of you might be more right than the other, but I think the underlying important factor is that you had the conversation so the greater community could hear two very valid points, and that helps refine their blade of discernment.

01:35:35.000 I think this is far more important than just covering news.

01:35:38.000 I think it's far more important than just covering, this happened in the news today.

01:35:41.000 No, we need to get passionate, we need to get involved, and we need to express our ideas in a non-scripted way that truly tell the audience who we really are.

01:35:50.000 Because there's nothing narrated here, there's nothing It's us having a normal reaction and a normal conversation without any of these kind of paradigms that all these other mainstream media family-friendly show.

01:36:05.000 I can't say what I want to say, but all these other mainstream media hypocrites live by.

01:36:11.000 We don't live by that rule set.

01:36:13.000 We live by a rule set where this is what's on my mind.

01:36:15.000 It's gonna get out.

01:36:16.000 I don't care who it hurts or offends.

01:36:18.000 Superchats!

01:36:19.000 Let's see what you guys have to say.

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01:36:22.000 Of course you do.

01:36:23.000 Thanks so much for watching everybody and supporting our work.

01:36:26.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:36:27.000 Oh man, YouTube has started deleting superchats?

01:36:29.000 What?

01:36:30.000 You know, YouTube, when you get too many they start purging the back end.

01:36:35.000 Usually it happens only when we get a ridiculous amount of superchats.

01:36:38.000 I didn't think we got that many.

01:36:40.000 All right, sorry man.

01:36:41.000 All right, so we got Z Michael.

01:36:43.000 He says the source of that footage is a front with a glowing neon sign who airdropped the file anonymously to the police.

01:36:50.000 Sounds like people who live in parallel.

01:36:53.000 I'm not, I'm not sure what that means.

01:36:54.000 Interesting.

01:36:56.000 So it was an anonymous drop of... Okay.

01:37:00.000 Interesting.

01:37:00.000 I don't know.

01:37:01.000 So we do have this story.

01:37:03.000 We're going to talk about this in the member segment.

01:37:04.000 This is crazy.

01:37:04.000 We were going to talk about it, but I think we got a bit philosophical.

01:37:08.000 Roberto Laura says, Tim, 800 OK Guardsmen are not vaxxed.

01:37:13.000 This is insane.

01:37:14.000 I want to joke and say that if the Pentagon orders to remove those who choose not to comply with the Pentagon, just created 800 Kyles.

01:37:21.000 A dark winter is coming.

01:37:22.000 I think the Pentagon actually said you will not be in compliance with the National Guard and thus you will just be a state militia.

01:37:29.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:37:29.000 Your terms are acceptable.

01:37:31.000 But we're gonna get into that too because we got some crazy data coming out of the UK that we're gonna talk about in the members only segment.

01:37:37.000 So go to TimCast.com, sign up.

01:37:38.000 That'll be coming up around 11 or so p.m.

01:37:40.000 Let's read some more Super Chats!

01:37:43.000 All right, let's see.

01:37:45.000 Amanda... what is it?

01:37:47.000 Dilt.

01:37:47.000 It's harder to read because we have smaller monitors here.

01:37:49.000 Well, actually, I could probably just look up.

01:37:50.000 Actually, that's Waze with the bigger TV.

01:37:52.000 What am I doing?

01:37:53.000 All right, Amanda Dilt says, Hernandez's video leading up Rosenbaum shows Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse, drops extinguisher, and runs through lot, not once pointing gun at anybody.

01:38:04.000 Not only that, something came out where the jury said, can we get the video of Rittenhouse putting down the fire extinguisher?

01:38:10.000 Hmm.

01:38:10.000 Set it down.

01:38:10.000 I think it was it might have been Viva Frye said this that's the language of the prosecution

01:38:15.000 Which is indicative of the perspective of the jurors?

01:38:17.000 Yeah, because the defense did not say he put down a fire extinguisher. I think they said dropped

01:38:22.000 Hmm so one in one instance dropping it means he's running and he drops it and the other end since he stops puts it

01:38:28.000 down Aims a weapon hmm. Yeah

01:38:30.000 All right, I don't know Rich Leggy says, do you think the prosecution will be charged or is nothing gonna happen again?

01:38:39.000 Man, I hate to say it, but I think nothing's gonna happen.

01:38:41.000 Right?

01:38:42.000 Like, the judge won't.

01:38:43.000 Might be a while.

01:38:44.000 But if the judge puts the prosecutor on the stand, I would... I'd be so happy.

01:38:47.000 That'd be cool.

01:38:48.000 I've never seen anything like this.

01:38:49.000 It's an eclipse tonight, so I'm ready for anything tomorrow.

01:38:52.000 Yes!

01:38:52.000 Is it a total eclipse?

01:38:54.000 I don't know.

01:38:55.000 It's the longest partial lunar eclipse.

01:38:58.000 I don't know longest in what period.

01:38:59.000 I don't know.

01:39:00.000 It's not on the news.

01:39:03.000 The Economist said, should protesting near a courthouse be illegal because it affects jurors?

01:39:07.000 Yes.

01:39:07.000 How can we keep jurors safe?

01:39:08.000 I'm loving Tim Kast's IRL van life edition.

01:39:12.000 I don't think so.

01:39:13.000 I think we have a right to express ourselves, especially in front of government institutions.

01:39:18.000 But that does mean that bad people will do bad things and it's going to freak the jury out and then you end up with, you know, these bad cases.

01:39:24.000 The greater issue is the culture as it is.

01:39:26.000 The right is unwilling to engage in violence the way the left is.

01:39:30.000 So the jurors know the fear is not acquittal.

01:39:34.000 I'm sorry, the fear is not conviction.

01:39:35.000 It's acquittal.

01:39:36.000 If the jurors convict, they know the right will grumble.

01:39:39.000 If they acquit, they know they'll be threatened with their lives because the left is extreme violent and protected by the media and the institutions and the establishment.

01:39:47.000 It's so mind-bending how people can coordinate now, in the last 20 years since social media has basically been invented, and how culture can be so rapidly formed and dissolved and altered by, like, a meme.

01:40:00.000 Like, and then that controls the politics of the world. 0.86

01:40:06.000 Like, a million people, like, how people can protest, be like, hey, tomorrow be at this place at this time, and 100 million people, or a million people, or 10,000 people, it's like, what the?

01:40:15.000 How do we protect jurors in this world?

01:40:20.000 Mass mobilization is a crazy thing the Founding Fathers did not have to deal with.

01:40:25.000 This one's a really important one.

01:40:26.000 Spidge Bandersnatch says, Tim, quote, no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.

01:40:32.000 What happened to Hanlon's razor?

01:40:34.000 Ah.

01:40:35.000 I will tell you.

01:40:36.000 Hanlon's Razor, of course, is never a tribute to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence.

01:40:42.000 However, in this instance, I cited, I think, three examples of MSNBC manipulating the news.

01:40:48.000 So then when you find out an MSNBC employee was tracking the jury van, And we know the judge already said this can't happen and won't happen again.

01:40:57.000 There's no attribute to incompetence there. 0.99

01:40:59.000 Then you're just, you know, being a fool. 0.98

01:41:03.000 And then, as it pertains to the prosecution, they committed several grave constitutional violations. 0.98

01:41:09.000 So at that point, we stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming they're just bad at their job.

01:41:12.000 We say, nah, you've done it too.

01:41:13.000 You fool me once, shame on you.

01:41:15.000 Fool me twice, shame on me.

01:41:16.000 Fool me three times, you're not going to fool me a third time.

01:41:22.000 All right, what do we got?

01:41:22.000 I agree.

01:41:23.000 James Nelson says that video appeared Friday right before prosecutors closed from an anonymous

01:41:29.000 person.

01:41:30.000 The crop compressed screams manufactured evidence Hail Mary. 0.97

01:41:33.000 I agree.

01:41:34.000 And it just so happens that Krauss has two programs on his computer to do such a thing.

01:41:38.000 And they're very specific programs.

01:41:40.000 If he had Adobe Premiere, I wouldn't have batted an eye.

01:41:42.000 I'd have been like, eh, it's Premiere, man.

01:41:44.000 It's like basic editing software.

01:41:45.000 But he has, like, the cropping and the compression software.

01:41:48.000 Specifically.

01:41:49.000 Was the footage on Fox?

01:41:51.000 Like, actually on TV?

01:41:52.000 Yeah, Tucker Carlson.

01:41:53.000 So anyone could have snagged it off of the TV.

01:41:56.000 Cropped out his logo.

01:41:57.000 Anonymous is kind of weird.

01:41:58.000 Like, anybody could have done that.

01:41:59.000 I should have sent in evidence because it probably would have appeared in the trial.

01:42:03.000 I mean, that's how much oversight I'm seeing here.

01:42:07.000 Brandon Taylor says the defense's tech lady said the lower resolution version was created 21 minutes and 19 seconds after the larger file they received was created.

01:42:15.000 So I just don't see a reality in which the defense is like, we're given two files anonymously, I'll send only one.

01:42:22.000 Because that would imply that they were supposed to send both.

01:42:25.000 The prosecution.

01:42:26.000 Right, the prosecution.

01:42:27.000 The prosecution, if they got two video files, would send both of them.

01:42:30.000 Yes.

01:42:31.000 Definitely.

01:42:32.000 Absolutely.

01:42:33.000 Right.

01:42:33.000 Mm-mm.

01:42:34.000 with a different name that was compressed.

01:42:34.000 No.

01:42:36.000 So people are like, if he sent it over iPhone email, it would compress it, but it wouldn't change the name.

01:42:41.000 Right.

01:42:42.000 No.

01:42:43.000 Yeah.

01:42:44.000 There's not enough transparency here.

01:42:46.000 Yeah, something is crazy.

01:42:47.000 Here we go, this is good.

01:42:48.000 Tony Nalagan says Handbrick is an activity log file in GHB directory that recorded the file names of the source, output file and timestamps, under oath, subpoena, seize the laptop, but you know what?

01:43:00.000 They're not gonna do it.

01:43:02.000 And you know why?

01:43:02.000 Because the judge doesn't know.

01:43:06.000 Because the judge had a secret meeting with Bill Gates and George Shultz while doing DMT.

01:43:09.000 They're all doing DMT.

01:43:10.000 Now it's starting to make sense.

01:43:12.000 The judge doesn't know.

01:43:14.000 Now it checks out.

01:43:14.000 The judge said, I don't understand, this is in the 70s.

01:43:17.000 And the defense doesn't know either.

01:43:19.000 Yo, why isn't defense like watching these shows?

01:43:22.000 It's not just me.

01:43:22.000 Like, Rekato Law went over this stuff.

01:43:24.000 They've had massive live streams about this.

01:43:27.000 It's weird when younger people commenting on it know far more and probably could have done a better job.

01:43:33.000 I mean, that's a big stretch, but it really does seem like there was a lot of lax decision-making going on.

01:43:41.000 How old were the Founding Fathers?

01:43:42.000 Like 28?

01:43:43.000 28, 26, 30?

01:43:44.000 It was a wide range.

01:43:45.000 They weren't 70.

01:43:46.000 They weren't 78 years old.

01:43:47.000 Ben Franklin was the oldest.

01:43:50.000 Well, one of the oldest.

01:43:51.000 He was in his 50s, right?

01:43:52.000 I don't know.

01:43:53.000 I think so.

01:43:55.000 This is interesting.

01:43:56.000 Andy F says Krause claimed the detective sent him two versions and the second version was messed up.

01:44:00.000 He gave some reason the detective did it, but I can't remember what it was.

01:44:04.000 So, if the file was created 21 minutes after the video they got, then the detective created both?

01:44:10.000 There's no scenario in which it makes sense that an anonymous source Sent two files to the detective, created within 21 minutes of each other, and then the detective sent both, one was messed up, and then the prosecution just failed to deliver the high-res version.

01:44:26.000 For any reason, none of this adds up.

01:44:29.000 Let's just play Devil's Advocate.

01:44:32.000 Crouse got two versions.

01:44:33.000 Well, then he withheld evidence.

01:44:35.000 Because he should have sent both.

01:44:36.000 Yeah, that alone is... I mean, the evidence has to be recalled, I would imagine.

01:44:40.000 And he didn't.

01:44:41.000 So if that's the case, mistrial with prejudice!

01:44:47.000 There's levels of ineptitude.

01:44:49.000 If you're looking for malice and ineptitude, you have to think like, what kind of an attorney is this?

01:44:55.000 And would he not have thought of sending both of them?

01:44:58.000 How much ineptitude do you have to go to before you start realizing some of it is malintent?

01:45:03.000 I'm going to make a prediction.

01:45:07.000 JN says possibility of verdict coming on Friday.

01:45:10.000 So on the weekend.

01:45:11.000 Things people go off.

01:45:13.000 Media cookies.

01:45:14.000 Could be.

01:45:14.000 Here's my prediction.

01:45:15.000 Tomorrow, mistrial with prejudice.

01:45:17.000 Okay.

01:45:18.000 Okay, place your bets.

01:45:18.000 You know why?

01:45:19.000 That will create the maximum impact on the riots.

01:45:22.000 The judge has to know, though.

01:45:24.000 Waiting till Friday.

01:45:27.000 The judge said last week he didn't want to go another week.

01:45:29.000 He wanted to start a new trial on Monday.

01:45:30.000 And he's like, why don't we do closing on Friday?

01:45:32.000 And they were like, no, we should do closing on Monday.

01:45:34.000 And I think both the state and the defense were like, yo, we should not.

01:45:39.000 But that would have only triggered deliberations on Monday, I suppose.

01:45:43.000 So maybe that wasn't a factor.

01:45:45.000 They wait till Friday? Is the judge gonna want to carry on?

01:45:49.000 Or is he gonna say it's been three days, if the jury is hung, then we'll make a decision on mistrial.

01:45:54.000 If he declares a mistrial, there may be some riots, but probably not. If he declares a mistrial

01:45:58.000 with prejudice, which he has very good reason to do, they will light that city up. Poor Kenosha.

01:46:05.000 Yeah, but poor everywhere else.

01:46:07.000 It's not just gonna be Kenosha.

01:46:08.000 You're right.

01:46:08.000 New York City, Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Chicago.

01:46:12.000 So I'll tell you this, we got the mobile RV here, the studio.

01:46:16.000 Is the crew gonna be able to drive it back if riots erupt over the weekend?

01:46:20.000 Hopefully probably it's Texas to the east coast and I'm really driving through any big crazy cities or anything like that But mistrial with prejudice, I think if the judge says mistrial mistrial with prejudice.

01:46:30.000 I think we may actually get George Floyd level riots I'm just saying I think it's possible.

01:46:35.000 I'm not saying it's definitive and the reason is just It would send a message to the left That the judge is everything they feared, and he knows Rittenhouse is guilty, but he's gonna let them go, and that's gonna be their narrative, and they're gonna be like, it's worse.

01:46:50.000 It's worse than we realized.

01:46:52.000 It is the system is so corrupt, they will let them walk free, and then they'll be like, shut it down.

01:46:59.000 That would be the narrative.

01:47:00.000 That's right.

01:47:01.000 I'd like to see that, personally.

01:47:02.000 I don't know if I can bet on it, but it seems like that's what has happened, as a mistrial should be called.

01:47:08.000 With prejudice.

01:47:09.000 Yeah.

01:47:09.000 Like, immediately, too, I think.

01:47:10.000 Yeah.

01:47:11.000 It should have been done, first thing, this week, over the... They filed on the 15th.

01:47:18.000 The judge knew the evidence was not delivered.

01:47:19.000 He knew they're deliberating on tampered evidence.

01:47:22.000 That's crazy to me.

01:47:23.000 So the judge has to be ready for a mistrial with prejudice.

01:47:26.000 Do it on a Tuesday!

01:47:27.000 Yeah, middle of the week.

01:47:28.000 So around a Friday?

01:47:29.000 At least it's colder outside, I guess.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:47:32.000 But L.A.

01:47:33.000 What's the weather this weekend?

01:47:35.000 That has something to do with it.

01:47:37.000 Little Tales Farm says, Hey Tim, Jack Posobiec just said on Telegram that Kyle's defense lawyer says he believes it's a 6-6 deadlock with a jury just now.

01:47:46.000 Hmm.

01:47:47.000 I've seen that, yeah.

01:47:48.000 How would they know that?

01:47:49.000 By eyeballing the jury when they're sitting there?

01:47:51.000 I don't know.

01:47:51.000 That's a good point.

01:47:52.000 How would the defense know exactly?

01:47:53.000 Inside source?

01:47:54.000 I don't know.

01:47:54.000 Oh, it could be based on the memos coming out asking the judge.

01:47:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:58.000 He was looking at the memos.

01:47:59.000 Yeah.

01:48:00.000 A lot of people pointed this out.

01:48:02.000 All right.

01:48:03.000 Rionan Taka says, you're right, Tim.

01:48:05.000 Those programs are for specific purposes.

01:48:07.000 No reason to have them otherwise.

01:48:09.000 They're playing to the judge's tech ignorance, praying he sees through it and nukes them for it. 1.00

01:48:14.000 Disgusting. 0.97

01:48:15.000 There is an argument they want a mistrial, but without prejudice.

01:48:18.000 Or, if Binger really is the cult member ideologue, some people have accused him of being, he purposely wants to sabotage, trigger a mistrial with prejudice, to make... Now they should make a movie about that.

01:48:29.000 Change the names. 0.98

01:48:30.000 I've wondered whether it was, like, intentionally stupid. 1.00

01:48:34.000 Like, you know, the way he was going about it seemed intentionally stupid. 0.99

01:48:39.000 And I almost wondered, what's the angle of the judge to... What did he say? 0.99

01:48:45.000 Like, I don't believe you?

01:48:46.000 I don't believe you're acting in good faith?

01:48:48.000 Mm-hmm.

01:48:49.000 But I'm gonna allow it, is basically what happened.

01:48:52.000 So, I mean, he's probably... I hope he's a little bit more hip and he's letting something play out.

01:48:58.000 What was it in the Art of War that said, when your enemy's making a mistake, don't interrupt them?

01:49:04.000 I'm hoping that's it.

01:49:04.000 Yeah, I hope so.

01:49:05.000 So, uh, Slenzer says mistrial without prejudice is bad for defense.

01:49:10.000 It's like taking off your shoes at TSA doesn't protect you from the next bad, uh, from the next thing bad actors do, but this will dramatically alter their use of the video evidence and the drone stuff.

01:49:21.000 It'll call everything Kraus did into question.

01:49:24.000 If there's a mistrial without prejudice and then they still investigate what Kraus did, it could result in just charges not being refiled for political reasons and practical reasons.

01:49:34.000 We have this other one, this is from Chet Chisolm, he says, Barnes mentioned that if it's a mistrial, then that means they may be trying to run Kyle's funds down to zero so he can't defend adequately.

01:49:43.000 I do not believe that's correct.

01:49:45.000 Because the prosecution knows that Kyle Rittenhouse is not just funded by himself.

01:49:49.000 This is the biggest, it's a high-profile trial, and if they did that, and the defense team for Rittenhouse came out and made a video and said, we need your support, they would raise two million bucks in ten minutes.

01:50:00.000 Yeah.

01:50:00.000 It's not an issue of funding.

01:50:02.000 Um, and maybe, it may be, but Rittenhouse, his team, they will have the support of the people because even the progressives have started acknowledging that it looked like self-defense.

01:50:13.000 They're like, maybe we're wrong about this and we were wrong about that.

01:50:16.000 You're going to get too many people being like, I will give you 50 bucks and then he's going to have all the funds for it.

01:50:21.000 And in fact, this may result in a bigger defense team.

01:50:24.000 Yeah.

01:50:25.000 I mean, they should have Andrew Baranca advising them.

01:50:28.000 No joke.

01:50:28.000 And I was actually surprised they didn't.

01:50:31.000 Yeah, I thought they were going to.

01:50:32.000 I don't know.

01:50:33.000 Were they?

01:50:33.000 Yeah, I thought they were.

01:50:34.000 He's the Law of Self-Defense guy.

01:50:37.000 We've had him on the show.

01:50:38.000 Yes.

01:50:38.000 Excellent commentary.

01:50:39.000 He just has such great insight.

01:50:42.000 He's the expert.

01:50:42.000 Yeah, he writes for Legal Insurrection.

01:50:43.000 You guys definitely want to check him out when it comes to cases like this.

01:50:46.000 He just... When I read a bunch of news articles and I get a bunch of words and I'm like, that's interesting.

01:50:50.000 When I read his, he like breaks down like the elements of self-defense and goes through the details and I'm like, That's just a better analysis, you know what I mean?

01:50:57.000 That's great, yeah.

01:50:58.000 But I also like Rakeda Law's streams with all the lawyers, too, because, you know, then you're hearing from a lot of different people, and there's a bit of a, you know, here's this, here's that.

01:51:05.000 I wonder if, like, the defense can just get, like, a panel from Rakeda to, like, advise in the background, because then they'd win.

01:51:11.000 That's such a good idea.

01:51:12.000 It'd be, like, every legal point, every precedent.

01:51:15.000 Why wasn't that done?

01:51:16.000 I mean, like, I'm gonna say it one more time.

01:51:18.000 It's a high-profile case.

01:51:19.000 They're boomers. 0.99

01:51:20.000 Shouldn't that be the norm?

01:51:21.000 They're boomers. 0.99

01:51:22.000 They don't know what they're doing.

01:51:23.000 I hope that's... I don't know.

01:51:26.000 I don't know if I hope that's the case.

01:51:27.000 They're fluoridated.

01:51:27.000 Their third eye is calcified.

01:51:29.000 That's right.

01:51:29.000 Yeah, do some eye.

01:51:30.000 They need a darkroom retreat with Aubrey Marcus. 1.00

01:51:31.000 That's the truth.

01:51:32.000 I hear you did a movie about that.

01:51:33.000 Yeah.

01:51:34.000 So now we're getting to the Super Chats where everyone was spamming, Luke is right, Tim shut up, Luke is 100% correct, listen Tim, Luke is right, let Luke speak the truth.

01:51:45.000 Truth to power.

01:51:45.000 Tim is right.

01:51:46.000 That's me!

01:51:46.000 You're advocating for me!

01:51:48.000 Tim prefer here's one George Cruz as Tim prefers showing facts for his claims

01:51:51.000 We know gates controls, but show proof of his corruption at devil's advocate see you devil's advocate. That's me. You're

01:51:58.000 advocating for me What is this devil's advocate?

01:52:00.000 Carter stresses Tim getting ratioed in chat I know you're all seeing it, even Tim.

01:52:06.000 Tim, you're cranky, lack of sleep, you're being a bit of a Richard to Luke, chill out.

01:52:10.000 I will be fair, and I'll say this.

01:52:12.000 We did that really, really big show on Tuesday.

01:52:15.000 And I'm like, you know, sorting through all that.

01:52:17.000 I had to wake up super early so I could get my work done so I could go on Rogan.

01:52:20.000 So I did an hour and 40, an hour and 20 minutes in the morning.

01:52:25.000 three hours with Rogan and then three hours at night and then I wake up again to do the same thing and do an

01:52:31.000 hour with Jones and then do another three hours at night

01:52:34.000 and then I gotta wake up again tomorrow so truth be told I'm probably

01:52:38.000 very drained.

01:52:41.000 Excuses! We all work hard!

01:52:44.000 That was yesterday, Tim.

01:52:45.000 We all work non-stop.

01:52:47.000 We've seen each other for the first time in like 10 years.

01:52:55.000 Last year when he came and woke me up in my RV.

01:52:59.000 And this is the second time seeing him in like 10 years.

01:53:04.000 In very short instances.

01:53:05.000 If you keep it up, your voice is gonna start sounding like this.

01:53:07.000 And now, to be fair, I was actually just reading all of the ones that were pro-Luke, but there are some that were pro-Tim.

01:53:14.000 Pagan Libertarian Milady says, you won't be able to wake people up like that, Luke.

01:53:17.000 Don't cast pearls before swine. 0.99

01:53:20.000 No-ish, Sherlock.

01:53:21.000 I know, but you've got to talk about solutions and them.

01:53:24.000 Camel of the Mojave says, Luke, the average person is not going to wake up.

01:53:28.000 They aren't listening.

01:53:29.000 Build a strong community.

01:53:30.000 Tell the government, F off.

01:53:31.000 And the people around you, no free stuff. 0.97

01:53:33.000 The elites are the people chosen by the lazy common folk. 1.00

01:53:37.000 Well, you can't be too nihilistic. 1.00

01:53:38.000 You can't be too black-pilled and just think everyone's lazy and everyone's stupid. 1.00

01:53:43.000 That's the thinking of the elites. 1.00

01:53:45.000 That's the thinking that the elites want you to have.

01:53:47.000 The common man wants the best for him and his family or her and her family.

01:53:52.000 And I think if we could just understand that most people are good deep down.

01:53:58.000 They're not psychopathic people who hang out with Jeffrey Epstein and do unspeakable things to children in the name of some kind of weird multi-dimensional religion.

01:54:06.000 Luke and I were in Korea and we did political compass tests and I was center left and he was like a mirror image like we were like inversions like right in the middle libertarian center left center right.

01:54:17.000 Oh cool.

01:54:18.000 I think that's a good example of what it is like I think we're actually both right but kind of not seeing exactly what it is and I got frustrated.

01:54:25.000 You get intense reverberations, and then the Casimir effect.

01:54:28.000 I think that's what causes gravity, I'm not sure.

01:54:30.000 There's also the danger of, like, typecasting all people and saying, that's not the way to do it, that's not the way to do it.

01:54:37.000 Yeah.

01:54:37.000 You need both.

01:54:38.000 Absolutely.

01:54:38.000 That's the reason why, you know, like, Stewart Copeland and Sting, they hated one another, and Sting wanted a different kind of drum sound, and Stewart said no, and you got police coming out of it.

01:54:50.000 We need some of that.

01:54:51.000 You know what we can just do?

01:54:52.000 It's very simple.

01:54:53.000 Start a band. 1.00

01:54:54.000 Bill Gates sucks. 1.00

01:54:55.000 That's the name of the band. 1.00

01:54:56.000 That's it.

01:54:58.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:54:59.000 It's not just about me and Luke.

01:55:00.000 That's unfair.

01:55:01.000 We got a super chat here from David Tracy.

01:55:03.000 Says, Ian is completely right.

01:55:05.000 A new king solves nothing.

01:55:07.000 A Magna Carta that makes the king irrelevant solves plenty of problems, at least for a while.

01:55:11.000 So you know what?

01:55:12.000 There's more than enough of everyone here being right.

01:55:15.000 And we all get participation trophies.

01:55:16.000 That's right.

01:55:17.000 Thank you, Tim.

01:55:17.000 You get a sticker.

01:55:18.000 Who's that?

01:55:19.000 I voted today.

01:55:20.000 My Gold Star sticker, yeah.

01:55:23.000 John Boyle says, Bill Gates is evil, but I don't think he has this master plan to change the fabric of America.

01:55:28.000 And if there is this plan for the Great Reset, you think we would have any idea who developed this ingenious plan?

01:55:36.000 There is a plan.

01:55:37.000 I think him, Schwab, the Davos group, like you guys really got to take a look at what goes on in Davos for the World Economic Forum.

01:55:44.000 It's not just the World Economic Forum.

01:55:46.000 There's this big peripheral institution around it.

01:55:50.000 All these people show up, setting up pop-ups, boutiques, all promoting much of the exact same ideas.

01:55:56.000 So you have, this is crazy, like, I went to Davos during the World Economic Forum, I couldn't get into the actual thing, I was in the pop-ups.

01:56:03.000 But you actually have, like, on a mountain, basically, at the top, all of the global elites being like, here are the issues of the world, and we're talking, it's the World Economic Forum.

01:56:12.000 And then outside, you have, like, the nobles.

01:56:16.000 Who are all like, the kings are all correct, and let's bask, and they're walking around, and you've got high-ranking, you know, politicians, and the family members, and all that stuff, all laughing, and, you know, cheersing, and drinking, you know, beer outside of the palace.

01:56:30.000 And then, in far, far away, where the actual peasants are tilling the fields, they have no idea what's going on.

01:56:35.000 Mm-hmm.

01:56:35.000 They're walled out.

01:56:37.000 I guess my point there is just that it's not just the royalty, it's the nobility that, you know, shuffles around underneath and then opens their mouths as a refuse pours from the palace.

01:56:47.000 The court, the king's court that lives within the castle and the castle grounds.

01:56:52.000 Also, everything they talk about makes some sense in the futuristic technological world that we're living in.

01:57:01.000 The last thing that I saw from them is they're talking about reshaping food systems from farm to lab as well, but basically using science and data to revolutionize whole food systems and to homogenize it.

01:57:13.000 So instead of having like individual, you know, groups being able to feed individual areas, every one across the board, if this goes through, will be run by a singular system.

01:57:25.000 Now that just seems like common sense in a world that does want some kind of global top-down rule.

01:57:33.000 We're moving into technocracy.

01:57:34.000 That's my opinion.

01:57:35.000 With food, that's dangerous to uniform food because if like a virus or a bacteria emerges that destroys a certain type of food or a fungus or something and then we've all we've created our entire system based on like a specific kind of potato that could be very dangerous.

01:57:50.000 They're talking about land use mainly they're talking about how do we use land you know will they get to the point where they're like let's take imminent domain to a global level and talk about how are we gonna feed by 2050 10 billion people which is their projections so they're they're already in the long game thinking of 2050.

01:58:07.000 I'll give- Luke mentioned this but we have a super chat too.

01:58:10.000 Uncle Sam says my view on who to blame.

01:58:12.000 Look in the mirror.

01:58:13.000 Every one of us has a part in this.

01:58:14.000 Luke is right.

01:58:15.000 Vote with your money.

01:58:16.000 That means giving up conveniences.

01:58:18.000 It won't change until we ourselves change.

01:58:20.000 We have more power than we know.

01:58:23.000 V for Vendetta, you know.

01:58:24.000 If you're looking for the guilty party, and some are more guilty than others, you need only look into the mirror.

01:58:30.000 I know why you did it.

01:58:31.000 It's great.

01:58:32.000 It's well written.

01:58:33.000 It's amazing.

01:58:34.000 But yeah, it's regular people.

01:58:35.000 And that's why my view is very much like...

01:58:38.000 Change as many- it's grassroots.

01:58:40.000 And it's probably because I come from, you know, a more, like, lefty libertarian perspective where it's like, get as many of the working class and little people to share your idea, and then it affects the greater system above. 0.74

01:58:50.000 You know what I mean?

01:58:52.000 But I think, you know, I think we both made our points and we're both, like, probably in agreement with each other, just kind of, like, slightly on the other side.

01:58:59.000 Let's see, Monkey Wang says Alex Jones explains the Bill Gates situation better than Luke, and that's scary.

01:59:04.000 Ooh.

01:59:06.000 Well, Jones has been talking about it for a long time.

01:59:07.000 Monkey Wang.

01:59:08.000 Well, going on, you know, I was on Infowars with Jones, and he would say things that sounded outlandish to me, and I'd be like, I don't know about that, and he'd be like, it's proven, it's confirmed, it's declassified, and I'd be like, okay.

01:59:19.000 And then he'd be like, anyway, moving on.

01:59:20.000 It's like, I don't know, I can't really say anything to something I don't know.

01:59:23.000 Sounds like Alex needs a Jamie.

01:59:25.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:59:26.000 Like, his show is very in the weeds.

01:59:29.000 You know what I mean?

01:59:29.000 And for me to go on and hear these things for the first time that I've never fact-checked or looked into, but his audience all knows.

01:59:34.000 Oh, I'm looking.

01:59:35.000 That's going to be awesome.

01:59:35.000 I'm going to watch that.

01:59:37.000 Is that up already?

01:59:39.000 I think so.

01:59:40.000 Yeah, because I think it goes out live, doesn't it?

01:59:42.000 Yeah, I thought it streamed.

01:59:43.000 I'm not sure, though.

01:59:43.000 I don't know.

01:59:44.000 He gets a ridiculous amount of traffic.

01:59:46.000 People don't realize that.

01:59:47.000 They thought they obliterated it.

01:59:48.000 Like, they thought they banned him.

01:59:49.000 They canceled him.

01:59:50.000 And then I went and checked out Bandadot video, and he's got millions of views.

01:59:54.000 And I was like, wow.

01:59:55.000 You know, he was big before social media and he got massive and then they banned him and then he's still big.

02:00:03.000 It's like he's bigger than he was before social media.

02:00:05.000 He's not as big as he was when he was on the big platforms.

02:00:08.000 But he did an interview with me outside the house and it got half a million views in a day or something and I was just like, wow, man.

02:00:15.000 Wow.

02:00:16.000 I actually, whenever I post about him on social media now, I use hashtag.

02:00:20.000 I use at Ben Stewart because you have an account.

02:00:23.000 Because he gets banned, I'm just like hashtag Alex Jones.

02:00:25.000 It's good enough.

02:00:26.000 Totally.

02:00:26.000 Follow the hashtag.

02:00:28.000 He's become a hashtag now.

02:00:29.000 He also did a good job on Michael Malice's show.

02:00:31.000 He stayed calm.

02:00:35.000 On topic.

02:00:37.000 When did he go on and what did they argue about?

02:00:39.000 Well, I mean, to be honest, like I didn't get through more than 20 minutes because of my day wouldn't allow it.

02:00:45.000 But I mean, he started off Michael Malice was just like, I'm going to run through a bunch of first, I'm going to tell you conspiracy theory isn't just one thing.

02:00:52.000 A lot of people love making things like super simplistic.

02:00:56.000 But then he was like, you know, okay, Loch Ness Monster.

02:00:58.000 He was like, not real Bigfoot.

02:01:00.000 You know, I don't believe it.

02:01:02.000 You know, and then, you know, Gulf of Tonkin, and he went like a history buff, you know, into real good detail.

02:01:09.000 But he wasn't like, he wasn't Alex Jones.

02:01:11.000 I remember the first time when he started yelling into the microphone.

02:01:15.000 You know, he wasn't doing stuff like that.

02:01:16.000 They had a really chill conversation.

02:01:18.000 It was a good one.

02:01:19.000 You're welcome.

02:01:21.000 Michael Malice.

02:01:22.000 When was that?

02:01:24.000 Oh, man.

02:01:24.000 It was recently, right?

02:01:25.000 It was.

02:01:26.000 I mean, it was definitely after maybe a month after they were on this show last time.

02:01:32.000 And I think it was because of this show.

02:01:34.000 He was like, listen, I want to get you just one on one talking, you know, not with other people, just you bring the volume down.

02:01:41.000 And it was a really good show.

02:01:43.000 I've been so intrigued watching Alex Jones' ideas, because so many people discard him out of hand, and I'm like, I don't think you can safely do that.

02:01:52.000 I think that he should be an inspiration to kind of look into some of this stuff for yourself, because he says things that are true in a way that's very hyperbolic, and I think it turns some people off from it, but it's like, yo, you should check it out.

02:02:05.000 Well, everyone should be held accountable for their actions, and there's a lot to say about individuals and what they said before.

02:02:12.000 And I'll leave it at that.

02:02:15.000 All right, let's see.

02:02:15.000 We'll just do a couple more here.

02:02:16.000 We'll go do a couple more.

02:02:18.000 Oh, it's 10 already.

02:02:19.000 It is 10.

02:02:19.000 What a great show.

02:02:21.000 All right, we got Jordan.

02:02:22.000 VT says, I agree with you, Tim, on the importance of building culture.

02:02:25.000 Disagreements happen in society, and demonstrating how to have a conversation with opposing views on your show can help build a stronger culture.

02:02:31.000 I agree.

02:02:32.000 I agree.

02:02:33.000 Neil Hamilton Jr.

02:02:34.000 says, Luke is right, in that the patterns of bad actors should be exposed.

02:02:37.000 Tim, you are correct, in that the way we do that matters.

02:02:41.000 Yeah, I think we're both right.

02:02:45.000 As long as you don't manipulate people in order to try to convince them that your side is better.

02:02:50.000 I think that's the big difference because, and that needs to be addressed here, because if you're thinking humanity is dumb and stupid and you need to manipulate them to think like you are, you're becoming what you're fighting and that's what I want to not do and that's why I think I had such a strong reaction towards this myself.

02:03:04.000 So we got one more, and the only one we didn't get is the Ben is right, but this is... Tim's wrong, Luke's wrong, Ian's wrong, Lydia's right.

02:03:15.000 They got us, Lydia!

02:03:17.000 By the way, is Andrew Bronco like your uncle or something?

02:03:19.000 No, no, we do look really similar.

02:03:23.000 Uh, guys, go to TimCast.com, become a member.

02:03:26.000 We're gonna have a member segment.

02:03:27.000 We're talking about the National Guard and, like, I guess the threat of disbanding them or something.

02:03:30.000 That's wild.

02:03:31.000 And we got some new data out of the UK as it pertains to COVID rates.

02:03:35.000 This is something that YouTube is, like, would maybe even ban us for talking about.

02:03:40.000 And this is scientific data.

02:03:40.000 That's how scary it is, what's going on.

02:03:42.000 But we'll talk about that stuff.

02:03:44.000 So go to TimCast.com, become a member.

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02:03:49.000 We endeavor to create a space where it's authentic, I guess, real.

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02:03:57.000 It's good times.

02:03:58.000 Well, no, I don't mean the members.

02:03:59.000 I just mean for the show in general.

02:04:00.000 That's true.

02:04:01.000 I'm not going to pretend I believe something for the sake of trying to make money.

02:04:04.000 I don't care.

02:04:04.000 I don't want to do that.

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02:04:10.000 So you can follow the show at TimCastIRL, you can follow me at TimCast basically everywhere.

02:04:14.000 Do you want to shout anything out, Ben?

02:04:16.000 Yeah, so I just premiered here in Austin a film with Aubrey Marcus.

02:04:20.000 He's a really cool influencer, but he did Seven Days in Darkness just to see what he could see.

02:04:27.000 And the film is out now, AubreyMarcus.com.

02:04:31.000 We really go into it with a film that's like an initiation.

02:04:34.000 We recreate some of the visions, like the DMT visions that he had in there.

02:04:39.000 And it's, let me just end on this.

02:04:41.000 When you do go into darkness, something does happen with your pineal gland, your circadian rhythm, and endogenous DMT.

02:04:48.000 And that's why I'm wearing the DMT Quest shirt.

02:04:50.000 You guys should watch DMT Quest documentary on YouTube.

02:04:54.000 And then go to benjosephstewart.com, sign up, become a member.

02:04:57.000 I'd love you forever.

02:04:58.000 Are we gonna do like a documentary or something?

02:05:01.000 Welcome to the machine.

02:05:02.000 I got Charles Eisenstein right now helping with like the future of where technology could go.

02:05:09.000 And so yeah, I got some really good people working on that, but because I was working on the Aubrey Marcus film, I haven't made much headway past development.

02:05:16.000 I want to do something on DMT.

02:05:18.000 I want to do, like, I really want to explore that and get, you know, deep and big and long, like two hours.

02:05:25.000 I want someone to go down to the shamans in South America and like...

02:05:29.000 Like a toad or something?

02:05:30.000 No, no, no.

02:05:31.000 I just mean, like, I want to know everything there is to know about the research and the culture and what they've been doing, what they've discovered with it.

02:05:38.000 DMT, I think, may be one of the most fascinating things to me.

02:05:40.000 Yeah, it is.

02:05:41.000 You know what?

02:05:41.000 Like, this guy, John Chavez, DMT Quest, let's talk about that afterwards.

02:05:45.000 Yeah, there's a lot of fraud.

02:05:46.000 There's also a lot of fraud shamans out there, so be careful with that.

02:05:49.000 But there's also prisons in Brazil using DMT.

02:05:52.000 to help prisoners get over uh you know being murderers and other there's crazy stories surrounding it but to to what you were saying maybe this is why space is is is so dark uh but that's another thing but i remember watching your movies all the way back in in the 2000s what was it climatica and then was what was the other one Esoteric agenda.

02:06:10.000 Esoteric agenda.

02:06:11.000 That was the one.

02:06:12.000 I was like, whoa, that's really cool.

02:06:13.000 I got to get to know you.

02:06:14.000 We got to know each other.

02:06:15.000 It's good to see you again.

02:06:16.000 Thank you so much for coming on.

02:06:18.000 I wish I would have brought my Bill Gates is not a medical doctor t-shirt to Austin.

02:06:24.000 Sadly, I didn't.

02:06:25.000 But if you want yours, you can get it on thebestpoliticalshorts.com.

02:06:28.000 And of course, I have a YouTube channel where I was translating German once again on my YouTube channel, which you definitely want to watch.

02:06:36.000 I had a lot of fun doing that on youtube.com forward slash we are change.

02:06:40.000 Thanks for having me.

02:06:41.000 Great debate.

02:06:41.000 Let's go.

02:06:41.000 Let's keep let's keep.

02:06:43.000 Let's keep sharpening the what is it?

02:06:46.000 Iron or?

02:06:47.000 Yes, whatever.

02:06:48.000 The iron is hot and now is the time to temper it.

02:06:50.000 And that is what we are doing here with you.

02:06:53.000 You are amazing people.

02:06:54.000 Thank you for being here and chatting and letting us know what you think and being part of this great journey.

02:06:58.000 I'm so happy to be here, too.

02:07:00.000 I love you, Ben.

02:07:00.000 I'm just gonna say that.

02:07:01.000 I love y'all.

02:07:02.000 Thanks, Ben.

02:07:02.000 Thanks for coming, man.

02:07:03.000 It's always a blast.

02:07:04.000 If you want to check out my website, it's iancrossland.net, and I will catch you guys later.

02:07:07.000 Yeah, and I just want to leave you guys with a thought that Carl Jung had, which is that people don't have ideas, ideas have people.

02:07:13.000 People like Bill Gates and George Soros are living out an idea that we're better off understanding before we try to attack the symptoms of the idea.

02:07:21.000 And Linda, you want to go at it?

02:07:23.000 I will not hold back.

02:07:27.000 That's not fair.

02:07:29.000 You're trying to throw in a sucker punch.

02:07:30.000 Put that for the record. 0.66

02:07:32.000 Linda's throwing sucker punches. 1.00

02:07:34.000 She's not even changing the camera on me.

02:07:37.000 She's been passive-aggressively not changing the camera on me this whole time in Austin.

02:07:43.000 I'm so disappointed in you, Linda.

02:07:45.000 I'm disappointed.

02:07:46.000 I'm mad at you.

02:07:47.000 Hey, just let me get my last word in.

02:07:49.000 I'm just kidding.

02:07:50.000 You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.

02:07:53.000 We will see you all at TimCast.com in the members segment.

02:07:56.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 19, 2021

Timcast IRL - MSNBC Attempted Jury Tampering, BANNED From Rittenhouse Trial w-Ben Stewart

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