Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Bank TERMINATES MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell's Bank Accounts w-Darren Beattie

00:00:00.000 The CEO of MyPillow, Mike Lindell, has announced that his bank accounts are being shut down

00:00:13.000 This is crazy.

00:00:14.000 De-banking.

00:00:15.000 Banning someone from a financial institution.

00:00:19.000 It's not the first time it's happened.

00:00:20.000 But boy, I would say that's an escalation in our cultural crisis.

00:00:24.000 Because if you're not securing your finances, One of the things that precipitates societal breakdown,

00:00:30.000 people feeling like there's no path forward, there's no safety and security.

00:00:33.000 And what's next?

00:00:34.000 People are going to just take all their cash out, put it under their mattress or something?

00:00:38.000 Pillows.

00:00:39.000 Underneath their pillows! 0.88

00:00:40.000 Hey! 0.99

00:00:41.000 There you go, that was a good one.

00:00:43.000 We got some other news too.

00:00:44.000 DirecTV is booting off OAN and man, the political divide is getting spicy because banning people

00:00:50.000 is not changing things.

00:00:51.000 Getter is growing.

00:00:53.000 I've got, you know, Getter added a new follower count thing because people are complaining about it.

00:00:57.000 I've got like 200-something thousand followers on Getter.

00:00:59.000 And I barely use it, but it's just showing that parallel economies, parallel cultures are growing.

00:01:04.000 And what's next?

00:01:05.000 Mike Lindell going to launch his own bank called MyBank?

00:01:08.000 I wouldn't be surprised, to be honest, because we're already seeing right-wing financial institutions start to pop up.

00:01:16.000 We also have another major news.

00:01:18.000 The Biden administration has officially terminated Darren Beattie from the administration.

00:01:24.000 Can you tell us about what happened to you, sir?

00:01:26.000 Indeed. Well, I had the privilege of serving Mr. Joe Biden's administration,

00:01:31.000 the capacity of being on the Committee for the Preservation of American Heritage Abroad.

00:01:37.000 It's a nonpartisan committee, one of the least partisan committees there could be.

00:01:44.000 And I managed to survive for almost a year.

00:01:47.000 And then just coincidentally, right after my reporting at Revolver.News got a tremendous amount of attention from

00:01:55.000 Trump and from others, I get a letter from the Biden White House saying, send us

00:02:01.000 your letter of resignation or get fired by the close of business.

00:02:04.000 So, silliness aside, it actually is true.

00:02:07.000 You were, you had this this job, you reported a major story on Ray Epps and what's

00:02:12.000 going on with that, we'll definitely get into, and then all of a sudden they pop up

00:02:14.000 and say, you know what, you're out.

00:02:17.000 Right, so the timing is suspicious, I say, you know, this is better than a Pulitzer,

00:02:23.000 it's a sign that we're pissing them off, and you know, I don't blame them for being pissed

00:02:27.000 off, so, you know, I'll take it.

00:02:29.000 Do you want to just briefly introduce yourself?

00:02:30.000 Yeah, my name is Darren J. Beattie.

00:02:33.000 I'm currently a founder and editor of revolver.news, which is a new site people should check out.

00:02:40.000 And in the past, I was a speechwriter and policy aide for Donald Trump in the White House.

00:02:44.000 And before that, I was a professor of political science at Duke University.

00:02:48.000 Well, thanks for coming, man.

00:02:49.000 It's the second time we've had you.

00:02:50.000 It's great to be back.

00:02:52.000 It's hard to beat the last one, but we'll give it a try.

00:02:55.000 For those that don't know, that was the biggest show we've done.

00:02:59.000 I think it's got a collective, like, if you combine all the views on everything, probably close to 3 million views, and we put it on Rumble.

00:03:05.000 Yes.

00:03:05.000 It's got 2.3 million views or whatever.

00:03:07.000 Sorry to interrupt.

00:03:08.000 I hear that the audio is really scratchy right now.

00:03:10.000 Yep.

00:03:10.000 Not sure what to do about it.

00:03:12.000 The audio is scratchy?

00:03:13.000 Yeah.

00:03:13.000 I just got some notifications that people are having a problem with the audio.

00:03:16.000 Correct.

00:03:16.000 Yeah.

00:03:16.000 Interesting.

00:03:17.000 I don't know what to do.

00:03:17.000 Can't hear it in my headphones.

00:03:19.000 Sounds completely different.

00:03:20.000 What up?

00:03:21.000 That means it's... Do you want to try turning the audio on and off?

00:03:23.000 I can turn it off.

00:03:24.000 It's going to be interrupting.

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 I'll just do it.

00:03:26.000 Thanks.

00:03:28.000 That may sound better.

00:03:46.000 Let's see what happens.

00:03:47.000 How's that everybody?

00:03:48.000 Give us a one in chat if it sounds good.

00:03:51.000 A two in chat if you're still having problems.

00:03:56.000 It's Friday.

00:03:57.000 I'm not complaining.

00:04:00.000 Here comes the CTO to fix things for us.

00:04:03.000 Oh, it's fixed.

00:04:05.000 Looks good.

00:04:06.000 Hey, your mere presence fixed it.

00:04:07.000 Look at that.

00:04:09.000 Oh, that's weird.

00:04:09.000 How about we just, we do a very brief and quick restart.

00:04:14.000 So welcome to the show, everybody.

00:04:15.000 Big news on Mike Lindell getting his bank accounts shut down.

00:04:17.000 Darren Beatty is here.

00:04:19.000 You're the founder and editor of Revolver News.

00:04:21.000 Yes.

00:04:21.000 Do you want to just quickly introduce yourself again?

00:04:25.000 Yes, briefly.

00:04:26.000 Founder and editor of Revolver.News.

00:04:28.000 Before that, I was a speechwriter and policy aide for Donald Trump in the White House.

00:04:32.000 And before that, I was a professor of political science at Duke University.

00:04:36.000 Right on.

00:04:37.000 We got Luke.

00:04:37.000 Hey guys, if you like giving unsolicited history lessons to random people like I do, maybe the shirt I'm wearing would be perfect for you, as of course it says, FYI, the government is way deadlier than any virus.

00:04:50.000 A very true, accurate historical fact, especially if you know what democide means, and if you'd like to support this historical fact to the wider general public, you can on thebestpoliticalshirts.com, because you do.

00:05:02.000 I'm here, thanks for having me.

00:05:03.000 This should be a great conversation.

00:05:05.000 I also heard that compound interest is more dangerous than standing armies.

00:05:09.000 I believe that was Thomas Jefferson pointed that out.

00:05:11.000 So we'll keep that in mind as we talk about banking and Mike Lindell maybe starting his own.

00:05:15.000 Did you introduce yourself?

00:05:16.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:05:16.000 That's who that is, yeah.

00:05:17.000 You know me.

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00:05:19.000 What's up, everybody?

00:05:20.000 Hey, check it out at iancrossland.net if you want to see some of my stuff.

00:05:23.000 And we'll talk to you soon.

00:05:24.000 Very cool.

00:05:25.000 Yeah.

00:05:25.000 Thank you guys for setting me straight on the audio.

00:05:27.000 I could not hear the difference and I was afraid to restart while everybody else was talking.

00:05:31.000 So I'm glad we had a chance to do that.

00:05:32.000 Hopefully we have some good sound.

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00:07:47.000 Let's talk about this big news we've got from the post-millennial.

00:07:51.000 Minnesota Bank & Trust moves to cancel MyPillow founder's bank accounts.

00:07:56.000 The accounts in question are Lindell Management, Lindell Outreach, Lindell Recovery Network, Lindell TV, Lindell Foundation, Lindell Publishing, Frank Speech, Michael Lindell Personal, and MyStore.

00:08:06.000 It's kind of crazy, they've gone after everything associated with this guy.

00:08:10.000 The announcement came on Friday's episode of War Room, where host and former Trump advisor Steve Bannon played a recording of a telephone call between a top executive at Minnesota Bank & Trust and Lindell's controller.

00:08:20.000 The executive stated during the call that the bank, a subsidiary of Heartland Financial, had concerns about being connected with someone who could be in the news.

00:08:27.000 Quote, not that the FBI is even sniffing and looking.

00:08:31.000 But what if somebody came and said, do you know what?

00:08:34.000 We are going to subpoena all of his account records and this and that, and then all of a sudden we make the news.

00:08:40.000 So it's more of a reputation risk.

00:08:43.000 I'll just tell you this.

00:08:44.000 Minnesota Bank and Trust, I would never go anywhere near.

00:08:49.000 If you're running a business and your bank gets shut down because they're scared of bad PR, do not bank with these people.

00:08:55.000 And it's not just that.

00:08:57.000 You think it's just as Mike Lindell's a big famous guy?

00:08:59.000 CNN's gone after regular people over memes.

00:09:03.000 So yeah, if a bank is saying we don't want to be involved with someone in the news, well we know these media companies are willing to go after regular people and little old ladies. 0.58

00:09:10.000 I would not feel safe banking with that company.

00:09:12.000 I don't believe the reputation excuse at all, especially when you look at the history of big banks, especially institutions like HSBC and their money laundering for drug cartels knowingly doing so.

00:09:24.000 When you look at what they did with Jeffrey Epstein, especially Deutsche Bank, that literally had to settle a fine of over $150 million because they ignored all of his red flags.

00:09:34.000 Jeffrey Epstein was able to bank with JP Morgan and Chase, Citibank, Deutsche Bank.

00:09:39.000 He never got debanked.

00:09:41.000 Who gets debanked?

00:09:42.000 The MyPillow guy and then people like Julian Assange that was debunked in 2010 politically when he was shut down by a Swiss bank.

00:09:50.000 He was shut down by PayPal.

00:09:52.000 He of course then went into Bitcoin and then had a 50,000% increase of his money and is estimated to have around $37 million because of that switch from Bitcoin.

00:10:03.000 So again.

00:10:04.000 This political debanking is nothing new.

00:10:05.000 The big banks are, of course, tied into big government, the intelligence agencies.

00:10:10.000 And I think this is another lesson showing that, yes, they all work together in many extensive ways, which is absolutely troubling because it's becoming more and more political by the day.

00:10:19.000 I think this is a big red flag for centralized banking in general.

00:10:23.000 You see the amount of control that I think is desired from this.

00:10:28.000 If you want to buck the system and all the money is controlled by one person, then you don't get to have any money anymore and live in this world with no money.

00:10:36.000 That's not how this world works.

00:10:38.000 I don't like privatized banking at all at this point.

00:10:41.000 Public banking.

00:10:42.000 Yeah, I would have a couple things to say about that.

00:10:44.000 One is the astonishing and really unfortunate thing is there is a certain case to the reputational argument, which is to say that in the present regime, you're worse off reputationally being Michael Lindell and associating yourself with Donald Trump in various ways than being somebody like Jeffrey Epstein.

00:11:05.000 They're just as a result of the peculiar hierarchy of taboos that exists in the regime.

00:11:13.000 And secondly, I think it really speaks to this point that anyone in Liddell's position

00:11:18.000 who speaks out against the regime in various ways, debanking is what the United States

00:11:24.000 government does to adversary governments.

00:11:27.000 It is the domestic recapitulation of economic sanctions.

00:11:33.000 And so it needs to be understood, I think, broadly in this context of the government and its associated institutions wielding its power domestically.

00:11:42.000 against American citizens for political purposes.

00:11:44.000 Do you think that the government told this bank to do this, or was this just a private

00:11:47.000 bank making this decision?

00:11:48.000 Well, I mean, I think that this is all part of the same ecology.

00:11:52.000 So the fact that banking institutions, that major platforms of the communication infrastructure

00:11:59.000 aren't technically part of the government, they are part of the regime.

00:12:03.000 And that's what's more relevant.

00:12:05.000 And it's simply, if you reach the level of Michael Lindell, if you are a dissident on

00:12:09.000 that level, you jeopardize your capacity to exist in any normal way.

00:12:15.000 And having financial freedom and being able to bank is part of that.

00:12:19.000 Basically, Lindell's position is similar to the position of, say, the government of Iran, for instance.

00:12:25.000 I mean, that's how I would interpret it, and functionally, it's the same.

00:12:30.000 It's just, in Lindell's case, he's an American citizen, and in Iran's case, it is a foreign adversary, or at least allegedly an adversary.

00:12:39.000 Yeah, the public banking thing, I don't know if I'm a fan of.

00:12:41.000 Yeah, after I said it, I was like, mmm, not only public.

00:12:44.000 I do like the options.

00:12:46.000 Like non-profit banking?

00:12:47.000 Credit unions?

00:12:48.000 Nonprofit banking imagine a bank that wasn't trying to profit. Well, that's basically a credit union. Yeah. Thank

00:12:52.000 you So they so for me my credit union, it's like no ATM fees

00:12:56.000 I get international free ATM transactions, which is crazy because when I was traveling around for vice and stuff that

00:13:01.000 was it amazing it was amazing and

00:13:03.000 The the credit union industry was able to they're able to absorb a lot of losses because they're not in it for a

00:13:08.000 profit So during all the occupy stuff they gained billions of

00:13:12.000 dollars People were switching over.

00:13:14.000 I think that's one big move you can make, but there's still the problem of a credit union still being a private institution who can ban you.

00:13:19.000 And so I think what we're seeing from here is the power of cultural enforcement over, say, legal enforcement.

00:13:26.000 You don't need to make something illegal.

00:13:28.000 You don't need to violate someone's rights to still violate their rights.

00:13:31.000 You know what I mean?

00:13:32.000 Joe Biden doesn't need to go to this bank and say, get rid of this guy.

00:13:35.000 He's in my way.

00:13:36.000 They need only put enough pressure.

00:13:39.000 A reporter will call them up and say, why are you doing this?

00:13:42.000 I broke this story.

00:13:43.000 It was a few years ago.

00:13:43.000 I think it was actually four years ago.

00:13:45.000 It was Enrique Tarrio.

00:13:48.000 He got banned from Chase because a quote-unquote journalist sent an email basically threatening

00:13:53.000 the bank, saying, why are you providing financial services to white supremacists?

00:13:58.000 And the bank internally just said, terminate.

00:14:00.000 We don't want to have anything to do with this.

00:14:02.000 I understand why the bank freaks out.

00:14:04.000 Journalists do this stuff as an attack and they know they're doing it, the way they ask the question.

00:14:09.000 For what business, for what public good, do we need to understand why a bank provides banking services to a person of a certain political persuasion?

00:14:18.000 We don't.

00:14:19.000 Everybody has a bank because people have banks.

00:14:21.000 So a journalist who contacts a bank and asks those questions knows what they're doing and why they're doing it.

00:14:26.000 That's interesting the way you said everybody has a bank and uses a bank, because that's kind of what we believe, what we're brainwashed to believe growing up.

00:14:33.000 But like you're saying, Darren, the government can just sanction anybody at any time, anything.

00:14:37.000 And that's a common tool that it uses in the war against its adversaries is shut off the bank.

00:14:43.000 It's their favorite tool.

00:14:44.000 If you look at the way that the Americans have been kind of pushing their will on the world, economic sanctions, economic warfare, are their main ways of achieving a lot of their objectives. 0.54

00:14:55.000 They go to a country and they say, hey, we're going to take away your ability to even have money in the world if you don't implement this policy.

00:15:02.000 And this is what the United States does.

00:15:03.000 This is nothing even compared to the World Bank and the IMF.

00:15:07.000 And if you look at the stories of the economic hitman, if you look at what really happens behind the scenes with a lot of these banks and powerful people all around the world, it is absolutely corrupt and sinister to see the corruption that really is happening that we don't even know about.

00:15:22.000 Right, it's the analog.

00:15:24.000 So what happens to Lindell and their various other cases, he's not the first, as you point out.

00:15:31.000 It is the analog to, you know, using the leverage of the SWIFT system to cut out, you know, foreign adversaries or to use that leverage to pressure them to do something we want.

00:15:44.000 It's an extension of the same basic principle and done for the same reasons.

00:15:48.000 Do you have any information on the SWIFT banking system?

00:15:51.000 Maybe a brief overview.

00:15:52.000 I know a little bit about it.

00:15:53.000 I believe that it kind of oversees Visa and MasterCard.

00:15:55.000 Right.

00:15:56.000 I mean, it's just, you know, the United States government essentially controls it.

00:16:00.000 It's essential for any kind of transactions that go through, particularly in dollars.

00:16:05.000 And it's a major part of being able to participate in the global economy.

00:16:10.000 And particularly in the past five years or so, the United States has really leaned on economic sanctions because there's no appetite for war since Iraq.

00:16:21.000 There's just no public appetite for war.

00:16:23.000 And so it's sort of the middle ground that they can use to really be severe but not send troops into a place.

00:16:30.000 And so they've leaned on these sanctions and the cost is it really puts pressure on the US dollar.

00:16:35.000 There's only so much Pressure the dollar can take having to sustain the United States foreign policy objectives before the pillars collapse, but they've been leaning on it very hard.

00:16:48.000 And the result is Russia and China have been talking and cooperating and thinking about developing alternatives to the SWIFT system and so forth.

00:16:57.000 So ultimately it might be counterproductive, but we love to sanction people economically.

00:17:03.000 overseas and that's what you see more domestically because the domestic

00:17:07.000 political adversaries like Michael and Dell are considered enemies in just the

00:17:12.000 same way that the US government considers Iran an enemy. I remember man 0.99

00:17:17.000 12, 13, maybe even long maybe even like 14 years ago you know Alex Jones is

00:17:22.000 talking about one world currency, global currency.

00:17:27.000 All these people on the internet were talking about the Amaro, that there was gonna be a Canadian, Mexican, American currency.

00:17:32.000 And that always confused me, because I was like, can't you just use your credit card any country you go to?

00:17:38.000 And so within only a few years, I'm traveling around the world working for Vice, and I've got a visa card.

00:17:44.000 And I go to all these countries and swipe it with no questions asked.

00:17:47.000 I walk in, I'd say, you know, let me get the schnitzel when I'm in, you know, Israel, whatever, and then swipe.

00:17:53.000 No questions asked.

00:17:54.000 No problem.

00:17:54.000 Just right there.

00:17:55.000 And then I started telling my friends when out here people say like, yeah, one of these days they're going to have a one world currency.

00:18:00.000 And I was like, bro, it's called Visa and MasterCard.

00:18:02.000 You can go to any one of these countries, just use it.

00:18:04.000 It's here.

00:18:05.000 It's happened already.

00:18:06.000 Wait till you learn about Bitcoin, Tim.

00:18:09.000 And I've been telling people Bitcoin is the perfect global store of value.

00:18:13.000 Decentralized, instant, trackable.

00:18:16.000 And when they've got AI that is tracking all of the transactions, they know who you are, where you are, what you're doing, and you don't even realize.

00:18:24.000 People are like, I can use Bitcoin to buy things you're not supposed to buy.

00:18:27.000 It's like, dude, they know who you are.

00:18:28.000 That's if you let people know your address.

00:18:30.000 So if no one knows your address, you could still... Well, there's different ways of finding out.

00:18:34.000 Amazon and Jeff Bezos are working on a lot of different technological advancements that would kind of break Bitcoin and make sure they could track, trace, and database everything.

00:18:43.000 So there are exceptions to the rule.

00:18:45.000 I would say, at this point, Bitcoin itself is broken in that capacity.

00:18:49.000 It's not private.

00:18:50.000 A lot of, you know, ANCAP's libertarians thought it really was, but they don't need to know your address To see the transactions made and then have an AI just calculate it was you, based on the things you post on social media, based on the phone you use, your Mac address.

00:19:05.000 They can easily track this stuff.

00:19:07.000 They're working on that technology.

00:19:08.000 I haven't heard of them developing it or using it yet, to be honest.

00:19:11.000 Are they going to publicly disclose they can do it already?

00:19:11.000 Let's be real.

00:19:14.000 No, but it's not that hard to calculate.

00:19:16.000 If Facebook is already... If you're getting... So I'll tell you something funny.

00:19:20.000 I ordered these little cards.

00:19:22.000 They're really, really cool.

00:19:23.000 It's a black card.

00:19:26.000 It's got a joint in the middle and on the sides, and you flip it, and it forms this kite shape.

00:19:30.000 And then you can pull the sides up, and it's got two little holes where you can put your phone and use it as a tripod.

00:19:35.000 It's so awesome.

00:19:36.000 It, like, flips around, you can manipulate it, and you can take your phone, set it up so you can, you know, record yourself with your phone, or record people with your phone.

00:19:43.000 The funny thing is, I posted a video to my Instagram of me playing my guitar, and I was trying to set my phone up, and I'm like, this is so annoying, like, how do you get your phone to stand up?

00:19:51.000 And then within an hour.

00:19:52.000 I never said anything to anybody about this.

00:19:55.000 I didn't go, gee, I sure need a tripod or some kind of stand for my phone.

00:19:59.000 I get an advertisement on Instagram being like, buy this to set your phone up.

00:20:02.000 And I was like, that's really weird.

00:20:04.000 And it's not because they're reading your mind or listening to you.

00:20:07.000 I never said any words about this.

00:20:08.000 It's because there are algorithms that just know based on your behaviors.

00:20:12.000 There's the famous story of the guy, this father, he gets maternity. 0.96

00:20:18.000 Advertisements in the mail for his daughter and he's like, why are they sending my daughter maternity stuff?

00:20:23.000 So he complains and they were like, oh sir, it's because our computer identified your daughter's pregnant That's it.

00:20:28.000 So he was like how the things she was looking at and it wasn't this is the crazy thing She wasn't looking up diapers.

00:20:34.000 She wasn't looking up anything.

00:20:36.000 She didn't know she was pregnant the algorithm knew that when women start looking up certain items certain foods Before they even realize that the computers know they're pregnant and sent the information to her dad because she still lived with them That's so I'm telling you man with bit with Bitcoin if you think they don't know who you are and what you're doing You are wrong.

00:20:55.000 It's all public but but there's Zcash.

00:20:57.000 There's Monero.

00:20:58.000 There are those are a lot better They get banned.

00:21:00.000 They have been in the past being getting banned from Trading networks, unfortunately.

00:21:04.000 Yep Monero in particular and that's the thing is once you reach

00:21:07.000 the level like Monero and you're actually a threat It becomes a national security issue. And so they try in

00:21:12.000 the periphery. They'll ban it from all the major exchanges It's particularly hard to get if you're in the u.s

00:21:18.000 and then if it persists then it becomes you know a Mechanism for terrorism financing and they'll go after it

00:21:26.000 more aggressively or they'll just say right so that's the that's the ultimate bottleneck is

00:21:31.000 Once something becomes a national security threat All bets are off

00:21:36.000 Well, let's talk about national security.

00:21:38.000 So the big story that came out the other day was about the Oath Keepers being charged with seditious conspiracy.

00:21:44.000 Something that's really interesting in this whole January 6th debacle is a man named Ray Epps.

00:21:49.000 You guys at Revolver covered this to a great extent.

00:21:52.000 We saw Tucker Carlson talked about it, and you have an article up.

00:21:54.000 For those that aren't familiar, Ray Epps is this guy who's seen in multiple videos telling people to storm the Capitol.

00:22:00.000 And the funny thing is, it is actually the right wondering why he's not being arrested and charged.

00:22:00.000 Yes.

00:22:06.000 So we have this article from revolver.news.

00:22:07.000 And in this one video, I'm going to try and lower the volume a little bit.

00:22:10.000 new details emerge exposing massive web of unindicted operators at the heart of January 6.

00:22:15.000 And in this one video, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and lower the volume a little bit. I want to play

00:22:18.000 this just real quick for you guys. This is on January 5th, by the way. Let me see.

00:22:25.000 I think the audio... Yeah, the audio's not coming through properly.

00:22:28.000 That's my mistake.

00:22:30.000 It was coming through just very, very poorly.

00:22:31.000 Now it should be better.

00:22:32.000 This is Ray Epps right here.

00:22:33.000 Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol!

00:22:37.000 Into the Capitol!

00:22:40.000 You hear that person go, what?

00:22:42.000 They start yelling fed at this guy.

00:22:44.000 Right.

00:22:45.000 So there's questions around this guy, notably that he was actually outside the Capitol as well, right?

00:22:49.000 Yes.

00:22:50.000 And he was saying something to somebody.

00:22:52.000 He was seen in videos saying this.

00:22:53.000 And for some reason, it's not just that they haven't indicted him.

00:22:57.000 It's that Adam Kinzinger on the January 6th committee actually publicly defended him.

00:23:02.000 Right.

00:23:03.000 Who is this guy?

00:23:04.000 What is going on with this?

00:23:05.000 That's a great question, and the video itself really tells the story.

00:23:10.000 And so, for any of your listeners, your audience, and I know you have an audience of, you know, the full political spectrum, I encourage everyone, if you're curious about what really happened on January 6th, take my challenge.

00:23:23.000 Go to revolver.news, read this piece in particular, watch the video, and then look at me with a straight face, look at me in the eye and tell me that Well, Ray Epps is the person we heard.

00:23:35.000 Ray Epps is in the mountains of documentary video evidence of January 6th.

00:23:38.000 that challenge.

00:23:40.000 And so who is Ray Epps?

00:23:41.000 Well, Ray Epps is the person we heard.

00:23:43.000 Ray Epps is in the mountains of documentary video evidence of January 6th.

00:23:48.000 He's the only person repeatedly calling and explicitly calling for this mission to go

00:23:54.000 into the Capitol.

00:23:55.000 The video that we saw was on January 5th, and he's going to all different types of groups with different agendas saying, we need to go into the Capitol.

00:24:03.000 The Capitol is our enemy.

00:24:05.000 The Capitol is what we need to do.

00:24:07.000 And then he's not just some drunk guy who's just spouting off and you never hear from him again.

00:24:12.000 He's there on January 6th.

00:24:14.000 He's a veritable Where's Waldo figure.

00:24:17.000 He's there telling the crowds, after the Trump rally, go to the Capitol where our problems are.

00:24:23.000 And then at 1253 p.m., by the way, this is as Trump was still speaking, so this guy, Ray Epps, who's such a big Trump fan, he's wearing his Trump hat, he flies all the way to D.C.

00:24:34.000 from Arizona and skips the actual Trump rally in order to hang out at the Capitol And to orchestrate, evidently, the first and decisive breach of the Capitol barricades, which is interesting, given what he was saying on January 5th.

00:24:49.000 And so there he is right by the Capitol barricades, 1253 p.m.

00:24:55.000 He whispers into someone's ear, that person is called Ryan Samsell.

00:24:59.000 Two seconds later, Samsell engages in the first breach.

00:25:04.000 Pretty amazing.

00:25:05.000 And in fact, there's other video of Ray Epps telling another individual who also incidentally is not charged with anything.

00:25:12.000 He said, when we go in, leave this here.

00:25:15.000 When we go in, leave this here.

00:25:18.000 And the this in this case was a bear spray.

00:25:21.000 So he's already anticipating people going into the Capitol and fulfilling this mission that he was calling for the night before.

00:25:30.000 And so the amazing thing about Epps is, in the midst of all of these random grandmas and random people who are being slammed with the most draconian charges imaginable for basically nothing, many people wallowing away in solitary confinement indefinitely, this guy Ray Epps is untouched.

00:25:50.000 He's uncharged.

00:25:52.000 He's unsearched.

00:25:54.000 Nobody wants him.

00:25:56.000 And until Ray Epps essentially became a household name on the basis of our reporting, there was zero interest.

00:26:05.000 Now we're told, OK, shut up about Epps.

00:26:08.000 Epps spoke to the January 6th committee.

00:26:10.000 He says he's not a Fed.

00:26:11.000 So go back to what you were doing.

00:26:14.000 Maybe he's not a Fed.

00:26:15.000 I don't know or care.

00:26:16.000 I can tell you this.

00:26:17.000 Whatever it is, the story of Ray Epps, whoever he is, maybe he's not a criminal informant, maybe he's not a Fed, maybe he's just some guy, he has completely discredited the entire January 6th committee narrative for one reason.

00:26:30.000 Adam Kinzinger, who's on the committee, who's retiring from Congress by the way, said on Twitter on January 11th that Epps was on video the day before saying, quote, we're going into the Capitol.

00:26:43.000 Yet he goes on to say that he never went in the Capitol and therefore, you know, he cooperated and his name was taken off the most wanted list.

00:26:50.000 Okay.

00:26:51.000 Their claim is that Donald Trump incited an insurrection, but Donald Trump never even went that far.

00:26:56.000 They're claiming that Donald Trump said, we got to be strong and we're going to fight.

00:26:59.000 That was enough.

00:27:00.000 If it's not in any way an infraction or criminal activity to tell people overtly on more than one occasion to enter the Capitol, then what is their claim against Donald Trump in this regard?

00:27:10.000 Right, and the negligence with respect to Epps does not exist in a vacuum.

00:27:14.000 The most compelling thing about this that really points to some explanation like he

00:27:18.000 was a Fed is the selective non-prosecution to compare the neglect of Epps in relation

00:27:25.000 to the severe charges against much more minor people for far less egregious offenses in

00:27:32.000 relation to January 6th.

00:27:35.000 So it doesn't make any... For instance, Ray Epps says to one individual, he said, when we go in, leave this here.

00:27:41.000 Well, there was another individual called George Tanios, who was originally charged with basically conspiracy to murder an officer on the basis of when his friend was asking Let me have the bear spray.

00:27:57.000 He said, no, no, not yet.

00:27:59.000 On the basis of saying, no, no, not yet, they charged him with serious charges.

00:28:05.000 And yet Epps is saying, when we go in, leave this here and nothing.

00:28:10.000 Clearly showing he had planned the entrance.

00:28:14.000 Following through with the fact that the last night he was saying, go into the Capitol and he's whispering in the guy's ear two seconds before the initial breach.

00:28:14.000 Right.

00:28:23.000 And they don't want him.

00:28:24.000 And another interesting detail that's in the revolver piece is that initially, the FBI

00:28:30.000 put him on their most wanted list.

00:28:33.000 He was originally so important to them that he was one of the 20 people considered egregious

00:28:39.000 enough that, okay, we're going to put him on the most wanted list.

00:28:42.000 They begged the public.

00:28:43.000 They said, help us identify this man, Ray Epps.

00:28:46.000 The internet being the amazing sort of crowdsource investigative vehicle that it is, identified

00:28:51.000 this guy within days.

00:28:53.000 And the government had no interest.

00:28:55.000 And the only time they took action on Epps was the day after Revolver News published

00:29:00.000 an extensive report on his fellow oath keeper, Stuart Rhodes, the day after.

00:29:04.000 And Epps is an oath keeper.

00:29:06.000 He was a president.

00:29:07.000 He was a president of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers.

00:29:11.000 And so the day after Revolver— Hold on.

00:29:13.000 When did he leave the Oath Keepers?

00:29:13.000 Sorry, sorry.

00:29:15.000 That I don't know.

00:29:18.000 Put a pin in your thought.

00:29:19.000 Don't lose your track.

00:29:20.000 I just want to say, the Oath Keepers, 11 of them, are being charged with seditious conspiracy.

00:29:24.000 Yes.

00:29:24.000 Here you have a guy who was in the Oath Keepers, overtly saying, down to the Capitol, and he's not It's not just that they're not charging him.

00:29:31.000 I don't know why any of that's going on.

00:29:33.000 It's that Adam Kinzinger is actively downplaying what he did, and I don't know why.

00:29:38.000 I mean, there's no, if there's an innocent explanation for the Epps issue in particular, because he was originally on the FBI's most wanted list and they quietly took him off and didn't want to hear from him again.

00:29:38.000 Right.

00:29:52.000 And in fact, the only additional remark they had on him before this blew up on a national scale was Phoenix FBI agents denying knowledge that he even exists, which is remarkable because he's from Arizona.

00:30:05.000 Is it confirmed that his name is Ray Epps?

00:30:07.000 Yes.

00:30:08.000 So maybe another organization hired this guy to go ruffle some feathers.

00:30:12.000 The FBI didn't know, so they put him on the Most Wanted.

00:30:14.000 When they pulled him in, the other agency came and was like, hey, this is our guy.

00:30:18.000 That is a very plausible scenario.

00:30:21.000 It's entirely possible that he's giving them everything they wanted.

00:30:25.000 You know, at first they were like, who is this guy?

00:30:27.000 And then he gave them something substantive, right?

00:30:27.000 Find him.

00:30:30.000 I wonder what he would have given them, because, you know, he was the most egregious player there.

00:30:35.000 So, who would he be giving up?

00:30:37.000 That's, you know, that's the question I would have.

00:30:40.000 If he's, you know, from the video evidence... Maybe he had Oathkeeper Communications, and they said he can provide encrypted communications and access to their whole network, because he was a president, but he wants immunity, and they said deal.

00:30:53.000 The problem is, Look, you know, Adam Kinzinger comes out and he's like, this is a conspiracy theory.

00:30:58.000 Not only is he not an agent, he's not even an informant.

00:31:02.000 And he never went in the building.

00:31:03.000 And I say to all that, Adam, you are correct.

00:31:06.000 You are also correct when you say that by yelling at people to go into the building, he did not incite an erection.

00:31:19.000 Who was the politician who did that?

00:31:20.000 That was Schumer, I think.

00:31:21.000 Was it Schumer?

00:31:22.000 I pulled a Schumer! 0.73

00:31:24.000 Chuckie! 0.97

00:31:25.000 Insight and insurrection!

00:31:29.000 But when we do it on the show, we laugh and it's funny.

00:31:33.000 So the point is, it's not a crime.

00:31:35.000 So now they can drop all the Trump stuff and they can now, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Madison Cawthorn, all of these Republicans who they're accusing of incitement.

00:31:44.000 Nope.

00:31:45.000 Sorry.

00:31:46.000 By Kinzinger's own words, that's all done with.

00:31:50.000 And you make fun of me for messing up words.

00:31:52.000 Anyway, this is an interesting situation because it does, you know, suggest that there was some kind of federal involvement here.

00:32:01.000 I mean, obviously we're gonna find out through the Oath Keepers court case that's going to be happening very soon if there was, you know, someone that released information, if someone gave them something.

00:32:13.000 But again, There's also something that's odd about the timing of the U.S.

00:32:19.000 government going after the Oath Keepers all the way up until now, almost a year after this entire incident.

00:32:27.000 It raises a lot of important questions, especially surrounding the pipe bomber that also placed pipe bombs all throughout Washington, D.C.

00:32:35.000 the day before.

00:32:36.000 There's a lot of different theories about this to why this happened, but that story came and went extremely quickly.

00:32:41.000 No one's talking about it.

00:32:42.000 That guy or girl was never found and they were responsible for setting up bombs all over Washington DC.

00:32:49.000 Why isn't this a bigger story, especially in a surveillance state in Washington, D.C.

00:32:55.000 that has security cameras almost everywhere?

00:32:58.000 How does that make sense?

00:32:59.000 And the remarkable thing is that it seems like the FBI does these sort of fake gestures

00:33:03.000 of calling on the public to help them find a person in this sort of full-on surveillance

00:33:09.000 state, as you point out.

00:33:10.000 It's the same thing.

00:33:11.000 It's like when they initially called on the public to identify Epps.

00:33:14.000 It's clearly disingenuous because the internet identified him and they did nothing with it.

00:33:19.000 And similarly, in this Pipebond case, which is very interesting for a number of reasons, in the Pipebond case, they provide to the public just very limited, grainy, ridiculous video.

00:33:31.000 And we know for a fact they have more video because the video itself is not continuous, we know that there are more cameras in the area, we know that there's better resolution stuff, and so it's just not a genuine effort on the part of the So I kind of wanted to ask you, and I don't know if it's fair to go off into the realm of speculation, but there's some people assuming that the pipe bombs were placed there in case the people wouldn't storm the Capitol, and that was used as another pretext.

00:34:00.000 Some people are arguing and speculating that.

00:34:03.000 Of course, we don't have any evidence, but Darren, how would you speculate everything unfolded in Washington D.C.

00:34:09.000 on that day?

00:34:09.000 How do you think things went down from your perspective?

00:34:13.000 Well, that's an interesting question.

00:34:15.000 In relation to the pipe bomb in particular, there are a number of possible explanations.

00:34:18.000 One is simply that the bombs were there as certainly it makes for a scary headline that feeds into the narrative that the media wants, but also it had a diversionary function too.

00:34:32.000 The Capitol already had limited security personnel, and when they called in the pipe bombs, the law enforcement actually addressed the pipe bombs Basically contemporaneously, coincidentally enough, with that first breach that Ray Epps was involved in.

00:34:51.000 I think it was about an hour before the first breach at that barricade, the security went door-to-door to members of Congress and told them to leave the building.

00:35:01.000 Really interesting.

00:35:03.000 I mean, just think about it.

00:35:07.000 Something just so happened that before the breach, members of Congress were able to be evacuated from the building.

00:35:13.000 It's convenient.

00:35:16.000 I mean, it's kind of crazy to think that if it wasn't for this person who put these pipe bombs out, AOC might have actually been caught in people storming the Capitol.

00:35:24.000 Of course, she lied and fabricated that whole story.

00:35:27.000 And I'll give you the simple context.

00:35:28.000 AOC told this story on Instagram where she said there was a banging on her door of her office

00:35:33.000 and she went and hid in the bathroom and then thought to herself,

00:35:36.000 they've got in and that she might die.

00:35:38.000 But that story about someone banging on her door was the police sweep for the pipe bomb,

00:35:43.000 which happened an hour before the first breach.

00:35:46.000 So you, not the first breach, it happened around 10 minutes before

00:35:50.000 they crossed the barricades, but no one had to enter any buildings.

00:35:54.000 No one had breached the stairs or anything.

00:35:57.000 The crazy thing is you had people on the left advancing her claims and even people on the right.

00:36:04.000 I got into an argument with a guy from the Huffington Post when he said I was wrong about my timeline.

00:36:08.000 So I went through the timeline and I responded to him and I said, actually AOC's story took place an hour before the doors were breached.

00:36:14.000 Why would she think someone would go to her office an hour before anyone had gotten anywhere near the front doors?

00:36:20.000 And this Huffington Post guy went, oh yeah, you're right.

00:36:23.000 Good point.

00:36:23.000 I'm like, yes, AOC fabricated the claim, the whole story.

00:36:28.000 Some cop did knock on our door and he said, ma'am, we're evacuating the building.

00:36:32.000 I still find it crazy that bombs were placed all throughout Washington, D.C.

00:36:38.000 and our national security state that has NSA agents literally caught doing unspeakable things to themselves in a pleasurable way to people's private photos that they were not supposed to have.

00:36:47.000 The NSA that knows almost every little thing about you.

00:36:50.000 The phone that knows when you crap couldn't find the person that put bombs all throughout Washington, D.C. 0.98

00:36:56.000 the day before. 0.98

00:36:57.000 Are you kidding me?

00:36:58.000 It's even more peculiar when you think of all the other reasons that they would have had to have enhanced security on that day.

00:37:05.000 It would be a scandal unto itself if the Capitol building had normal security.

00:37:10.000 But in fact, the Capitol building had uniquely poor security on a day that was sure to be politically charged and requires additional security.

00:37:20.000 And this is one of many things.

00:37:22.000 Here's the pipe bomb. 0.79

00:37:23.000 But on January 5th, there was this so-called Hippies for Trump van.

00:37:28.000 And this Hippies for Trump van was stopped right outside of the Department of Justice with explosives and firearms in it.

00:37:36.000 And in fact, one of the people who was in the van turned out to be one of the curious characters caught on video methodically cutting down fencing and barriers as Trump was still speaking.

00:37:46.000 And so the feds knew who he was.

00:37:48.000 There was this terror scare Right at the Department of Justice on January 5th.

00:37:54.000 And even that didn't justify or get people to say, OK, we actually need enhanced security on the 6th.

00:37:59.000 So that's another very bizarre discrepancy there.

00:38:04.000 It's not just that.

00:38:04.000 It's that Trump was actually preparing a massive rally.

00:38:08.000 Right.

00:38:08.000 Hundreds of thousands of people.

00:38:09.000 That alone.

00:38:10.000 That alone.

00:38:11.000 More massive security.

00:38:12.000 Precisely.

00:38:13.000 Precisely.

00:38:13.000 There's a video where the guy at the Capitol goes to the cops and says, what are you doing?

00:38:17.000 Get people down.

00:38:18.000 Stop this.

00:38:19.000 Yep.

00:38:19.000 I get the feeling that the, the, maybe it's the news or whatever, isn't going to really tell us about the real threats because they don't want us to panic.

00:38:28.000 So like the pipe bombs, they played that down if it was a real threat, but it's the stuff that they want you to focus on.

00:38:34.000 That's tends to seem like it's not really a threat.

00:38:37.000 Like they, they want to get you wired up and confused and angry about something that can just be there.

00:38:43.000 But like, while they're secretly investigating the real threats.

00:38:46.000 Yep.

00:38:47.000 By the way, cherry on top to this, originally the guy on video, the FBI guy, DC field office guy, who did the public service announcement to the public saying we need your help identifying the pipe bomber, this was a guy called Steven DiAntonio and his previous job was running the Detroit FBI field office where he basically ran the infiltration operation that's now known as the Michigan Kidnapping Plot.

00:39:14.000 Wow.

00:39:14.000 was this same guy.

00:39:16.000 So the plot where there were more federal undercover agents than actual people that

00:39:20.000 were doing something.

00:39:21.000 There's literally 12 out of the 26 people are either FBI agents or FBI informants.

00:39:26.000 And this happened just months before January 6.

00:39:29.000 The same plot.

00:39:30.000 It's called a kidnapping plot, but it was also a plot to storm the Michigan State Capitol.

00:39:34.000 It involved one of the three major militia groups imputed to 1-6, the three percenters. 0.96

00:39:40.000 It was fed infiltrated with a percentage that you wouldn't believe.

00:39:45.000 And the guy who ran it was subsequently promoted to head the D.C.

00:39:49.000 field office where he went on to oversee 1-6 investigations.

00:39:53.000 And the guy that they indicted?

00:39:54.000 Steven DeAntuono.

00:39:56.000 The guy that they indicted also had very serious mental health problems.

00:39:59.000 Yeah.

00:40:00.000 Pure, yeah.

00:40:00.000 Never.

00:40:00.000 a fan in that end.

00:40:01.000 Pure yeah.

00:40:02.000 But come on, come on, come on guys.

00:40:03.000 Let's just be real.

00:40:04.000 The government wouldn't lie to us.

00:40:05.000 Right.

00:40:06.000 They'd say, look, they have our best interests.

00:40:08.000 There is no circumstance in which a government would ever stage something like this against

00:40:13.000 their own people.

00:40:14.000 Never.

00:40:15.000 That is absurd.

00:40:16.000 No.

00:40:17.000 But I did hear that Russia is going to stage a false flag against their own people.

00:40:18.000 That's different.

00:40:19.000 They're Russia. 0.94

00:40:19.000 They're bad guys. 0.94

00:40:20.000 And Kitzinger, by the way, is all in on this.

00:40:22.000 Yeah.

00:40:22.000 Kitzinger buys it, you know, completely.

00:40:25.000 I was joking, by the way, for those that may have not bought into that.

00:40:28.000 Some people will be like, is he serious right now?

00:40:31.000 My point is, You know, we can sit here and have an adult conversation about things we want answers to, and you'll get smears in the media that it's conspiracy theorizing to simply question whether or not the government could be lying to you.

00:40:41.000 Well, I mean, the Gulf of Tonkin is an example of the government lying to you.

00:40:45.000 They lied to you, they told you that their ship was fired on by Vietnamese war vessels or something, and it wasn't.

00:40:52.000 But right now one of the big stories too, and I don't want to get too much into it, is that Russia, US Intel, Russia is preparing to false flag attack their own troops to justify an invasion of Ukraine.

00:41:02.000 And I tweeted this saying, no false flags are conspiracy theories, no government would attack their own people to justify an invasion of any other country.

00:41:10.000 You can't because false flags don't exist, so you can't do it.

00:41:13.000 Of course.

00:41:13.000 Even though historically most wars are started through false flags.

00:41:17.000 Oh, that's a good point.

00:41:18.000 But now we're living in a magic fairy tale land where false flags don't exist.

00:41:18.000 False flags do exist.

00:41:22.000 No, it's just the US government that doesn't do false flags.

00:41:25.000 Of course.

00:41:25.000 That's because we're benevolent.

00:41:26.000 The only people who do false flags are Iran, Russia, and China.

00:41:31.000 And maybe Venezuela sometime.

00:41:34.000 It's funny because this conversation is a conversation ten years ago I'd be having with a bunch of leftists like anarcho, you know, antifa types.

00:41:41.000 Right.

00:41:41.000 Where they'd be like the American empire and the economic hitmen and South America and now they're the ones who are basically like, oh, the government can't be wrong.

00:41:49.000 Well, this thing, it's new for people on the right and that's one of the hurdles psychologically.

00:41:54.000 As I said, the political psychology of the right is largely that they want to venerate just and well-functioning institutions of authority.

00:42:03.000 I think people on the left like to challenge corrupt institutions of authority and we're in a position now where all the institutions of authority are corrupt and actuated against the right and people on the right need to adjust their political psychology in order to digest this new reality.

00:42:19.000 The right is now the left and the left is now the right in the in the classical French Revolution sense.

00:42:24.000 I was talking about this yesterday that we were talking to Matt Kibbe You know, in the French Revolution, the right was the aristocracy, maintained the status quo, and the left in the room were the revolutionaries, and that was the big argument.

00:42:36.000 And that's where they come from.

00:42:38.000 Now, left and right, I don't even know what they mean.

00:42:39.000 It means economics, it means cultural issues.

00:42:43.000 But if we're talking in the classical sense, the right has become the counterculture, which was the left in the classical sense.

00:42:51.000 Right.

00:42:51.000 And now you have the quote unquote left supporting massive pharmaceuticals,

00:42:55.000 supporting massive multinational corporations and their collusion with big

00:42:58.000 government. And I'm like, wasn't that always the right, you know,

00:43:02.000 like the big industrialists and the revolving door policies where they went and

00:43:06.000 worked for government. Now, all of a sudden, the right is critical of this and the left supports it.

00:43:10.000 Right. Well, there's a reason that, you know, one of the journalists who'd been most supportive of our,

00:43:16.000 of our work at revolver.news is Glenn Greenwald.

00:43:19.000 Yeah!

00:43:20.000 Another one is Aaron Maté.

00:43:22.000 Yeah, he's great.

00:43:23.000 So, you know, it's because they've been covering this for years and years and this is nothing new.

00:43:29.000 Like Merrick Garland, the current Attorney General, this isn't his first rodeo.

00:43:34.000 He cut his teeth Decades ago under Bill Clinton where he was at the DOJ under the domestic extremism portfolio Right at that period in the 90s when the US government was kicking up its infiltration operation into various militia groups and Merrick Garland played a big role I think in massaging the public's knowledge about what happened in Oklahoma City

00:43:59.000 So, yeah, this is nothing new.

00:44:01.000 A lot of the same people.

00:44:03.000 They're getting the band back together.

00:44:07.000 And, you know, some things just never change, I suppose.

00:44:10.000 Except in this case, the target has changed to some degree.

00:44:14.000 But if your listeners would be interested, I would like to address the seditious conspiracy charges.

00:44:22.000 I think a lot of people might want to know about that.

00:44:25.000 No, definitely, definitely.

00:44:26.000 We'll get into that in a second.

00:44:27.000 I'm curious if you guys have a way for people to contact you if they have tips or information or anything they wanted to share.

00:44:33.000 Yes, just email editor at revolver.news or tips at revolver.news.

00:44:40.000 We get a lot so it's hard to...

00:44:43.000 Look at everything but we I really try to look at everything because every now and then you get a really good tip You know 90 maybe 9 90 percent of it is weird stuff Like I got one that the scaffold commander who is one of the people featured in our story of guys saying, you know Fill up the capital fill up the capital.

00:45:02.000 He's ident unidentified uncharged and everything.

00:45:04.000 They're saying this guy is is bill Ayers.

00:45:08.000 Oh, yeah We get a lot of weird stuff like that, but every now and then we get a really good tip, so it's really important.

00:45:15.000 It's hard too, man.

00:45:16.000 People who are listening need to understand.

00:45:18.000 I think we have like 15,000 emails.

00:45:22.000 We can't get that number to go down as much as we go through as much as possible.

00:45:26.000 These aren't like, you know, we have emails for support on the website, which we get to every single one of them.

00:45:32.000 And somehow, sometimes, you know, look, for those that are listening, Gmail or your email service, it might get booted into spam or something.

00:45:39.000 That we try to go through as well.

00:45:41.000 But we get through all those.

00:45:43.000 But then we go to like tips and information and stuff.

00:45:46.000 We get not only a lot of crazy stuff, we get a lot of stuff.

00:45:49.000 And it's really, really hard to sift through.

00:45:51.000 And that could be bad because buried in there is that golden nugget.

00:45:54.000 Exactly.

00:45:55.000 It's hard, yeah.

00:45:56.000 You know, I brought this up because someone chatted that they had met a Fed down there.

00:46:01.000 Interesting.

00:46:02.000 Who knows if it's true or not.

00:46:02.000 I'm not trying to disparage this individual who commented this, but maybe they have something.

00:46:06.000 You never know.

00:46:07.000 And so that's part of the job.

00:46:09.000 A real journalist is a conspiracy theorist.

00:46:12.000 It's true.

00:46:14.000 When they come out in the media and say you're a conspiracy theorist, then they're just trying to discredit the fact you're doing real work.

00:46:20.000 Because a journalist should see something and then say, I have questions about the government's involvement in this and what their real intentions are.

00:46:29.000 And then when the government says, we have done nothing and you're a conspiracy theorist, that is to imply that because you don't blindly trust whatever this person says, I don't care if they're with a government or a corporation, you must be wrong or crazy.

00:46:42.000 There's there's two types of conspiracy theorists.

00:46:44.000 There's the ones that can take a conspiracy theory and put it in their mind and understand it and look at it without believing it.

00:46:51.000 And then there's the conspiracy theorist that sees it and believes it without being able to critically understand and think about it.

00:46:57.000 And you could say that they're both conspiring, but we're gonna have to define a difference between those types of people and that way of behavior.

00:47:03.000 Because I love taking a conspiracy theory and breaking it down and thinking about it without believing that it's real.

00:47:08.000 And just, what if?

00:47:10.000 What if?

00:47:10.000 It's awesome.

00:47:11.000 And that can lead us to great places.

00:47:12.000 If you believe things when you hear them, you're in a very dangerous place.

00:47:16.000 But let's talk about the seditious conspiracy.

00:47:18.000 This is the big play the Democrats needed.

00:47:20.000 They needed to be able to say that there were sedition charges for their narrative.

00:47:25.000 You've got the Daily Show now coming out saying the no sedition talking point is now officially dead, rest in peace, in memoriam. 1.00

00:47:33.000 We have this story from CNN.

00:47:34.000 Oathkeeper's leader appears in court on seditious conspiracy charges, but it wasn't just him.

00:47:39.000 It was 10 others.

00:47:40.000 Right.

00:47:40.000 So, you want to break down for us what this is about?

00:47:42.000 Yes, I'd like to say some things about this.

00:47:44.000 First of all, the seditious conspiracy charge is a rare one, and it's one that's even more rarely used successfully.

00:47:52.000 If you look at the history of it, there's only a handful of cases.

00:47:56.000 The first couple cases are weird, like cases involving Puerto Rico for whatever reason.

00:48:02.000 Then you have one successful case against an Islamic terrorist, and you have a couple others that were not successful. 0.89

00:48:09.000 So this is a very rare charge.

00:48:12.000 It's an extremely serious charge.

00:48:14.000 Everyone else, I believe, who was charged with seditious conspiracy, they already had lesser charges.

00:48:22.000 The only person who was just added completely was the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, Stuart Rhodes.

00:48:30.000 And I think there's probably a lot of public interest in a reaction to this, particularly because my news outlet revolver.news has run several detailed investigative reports on Rhodes calling into question the seeming protection that he enjoyed from the federal government for not being arrested and so forth.

00:48:53.000 A lot of people are confused and some people are probably erroneously concluding, oh, he was hit with this charge, therefore he couldn't have been a fed.

00:49:04.000 And I think that there are a number of things to say for that.

00:49:08.000 First of all, I don't think any of the questions raised in the revolver's reporting are dispelled by this.

00:49:14.000 I think they're only intensified.

00:49:16.000 And here's some interesting things about his case.

00:49:19.000 So, seditious conspiracy is a very serious charge, so we're supposed to believe that the government's been building this serious charge for an entire year, and yet they didn't bother to search him for an entire year.

00:49:33.000 Well, asterisk to that, they searched a single cell phone on his person four months After January 6th.

00:49:41.000 So here's the founder and leader of the most prosecuted boogeyman militia group who is all over the media and he's so dangerous that they wait four months, give him four months to destroy all evidence and take a single cell phone from his person and then wait an additional eight months of zero search before they hit him with this serious charge.

00:50:02.000 If they're taking him seriously enough to hit him with seditious conspiracy, how do you explain the fact That they only took a single cell phone four months after.

00:50:11.000 And contrast that with an individual called Thomas Caldwell, who is one of his co-defendants now.

00:50:17.000 Caldwell was arrested very early on in mid-January.

00:50:22.000 Caldwell got the full Fed raid treatment where they went in with guns, they raided his place, they took every electronic in sight, Then they charge him immediately with a conspiracy charge to obstruct an official proceeding.

00:50:37.000 And if you look at the conspiracy charging documents, the whole conspiracy of the government's case is based on Stuart Rhodes' statements and actions.

00:50:47.000 And so that raises another question about Rhodes's seditious conspiracy indictment.

00:50:52.000 Why did the feds wait an entire year for this big indictment when they could have taken him off the streets with a lesser indictment?

00:51:01.000 Either for the same conspiracy charge that they hit Thomas Caldwell for and others, Or a trespassing charge, which we know he trespassed.

00:51:10.000 There's footage of him on the Capitol grounds.

00:51:13.000 And they've charged others with trespassing, even who didn't go into the Capitol.

00:51:18.000 So, putting these things together, you have to wonder, okay, they were taking him so seriously that they were building up this mega seditious conspiracy case through the course of a whole year.

00:51:29.000 And yet, in that year, they only search a single cell phone four months after January 6th, and they neglect the option to hit him with a lesser charge and just do a superseding indictment for the seditious case.

00:51:43.000 So those are really important questions that linger, and I think the seditious conspiracy charge is actually a way for the government to get away with the perfect crime.

00:51:52.000 Do you think that Rhodes is a Fed?

00:51:53.000 explain that but I'll stop here. Do you think that Rhodes is a Fed or in some

00:51:58.000 way involved with Feds? I think that that is the most powerful explanation for the

00:52:04.000 questions that I just raised.

00:52:05.000 When you guys say Fed, you mean a federal agent?

00:52:07.000 Not necessarily Federal Bureau of Investigation?

00:52:10.000 Yeah, Fed is a vague term.

00:52:13.000 I think that the most likely explanation for the questions that I raised was that he had some relationship with some government agency.

00:52:23.000 Is it possible that the reason they didn't go after him early on, the reason they didn't try and dredge up any other information, was because they knew there was none, and the only reason they're bringing charges now is that it's an election year and it justifies establishment political talking points?

00:52:39.000 I think that would be a plausible explanation if none of the other people were charged, but if they knew there was no information, then how did they get this guy Thomas Caldwell on conspiracy, where the whole conspiracy and the charging documents is full of Stuart Rhodes' statements and actions.

00:52:56.000 So, if they thought that amounted to nothing, how do you explain that they hit this minor figure who's just a fellow traveler, not even an Oath Keeper, and this guy who's built up as the big boogeyman head of the Oath Keepers, they leave him untouched and unsearched?

00:53:12.000 I see all of the Daily Show did that thing where it was like, you know, rest in peace, there was no sedition charges talking point.

00:53:22.000 I just respond with, has anybody been convicted of insurrection or sedition even?

00:53:26.000 You're innocent until proven guilty.

00:53:28.000 I don't care if the government says you are.

00:53:30.000 There's going to be no conviction.

00:53:35.000 When a lot of people came out and said, was anybody charged with sedition or insurrection, we've brought that talking point up as well, and it's relevant up until the government decides to do it.

00:53:44.000 So I'll say this right now, maybe someone will be convicted, but the talking point isn't that it'll never happen, it's for right now, with the January 6th committee coming out and saying all of these things, just because you charged someone, I don't care.

00:53:58.000 When these people are convicted, we can have a conversation about, you know, that we found in a court of law they attempted to do these things.

00:54:04.000 And that being said, the federal government, when they charge people, they have a very, very high conviction rate.

00:54:10.000 Except for a seditious conspiracy, ironically.

00:54:14.000 So just two more really important points about Rhodes in particular in this charge.

00:54:19.000 One is the timing.

00:54:20.000 Okay, part of the timing was the whole, you know, Fed's erection narrative was at its absolute apex.

00:54:26.000 I think more important than that, though, is just like a week before Rhodes was charged, an attorney for another Oath Keeper subpoenaed Rhodes and was getting him to testify In fact, it happened in the Michigan case.

00:54:44.000 One of the big informants in that case was named Steve Robeson.

00:54:47.000 so that he has a perfect excuse not to testify because he just pleased the fifth.

00:54:52.000 And this is part of the playbook.

00:54:54.000 In fact, it happened in the Michigan case.

00:54:57.000 One of the big informants in that case was named Steve Robeson.

00:55:01.000 Once he was outed, the government immediately slapped him with an unrelated gun charge

00:55:07.000 that clears him off the table.

00:55:09.000 So that's one aspect that I think is really important in relation to the timing.

00:55:14.000 Another thing is this, is if I were the feds and I wanted to cover up the perfect crime, I would do precisely what they just did with the seditious conspiracy charge for the following reasons.

00:55:26.000 Think of what the charge achieves.

00:55:28.000 One, It gives a big headline that for lower information people or people who don't really understand the argument, they say, oh, he's hit with this charge.

00:55:37.000 He must not be a Fed.

00:55:39.000 So it, quote unquote, debunks the right wing people who say, oh, Fed's erection. 0.91

00:55:45.000 On the other hand, it assuages and satisfies all of these left-wing people who have been furious that he hasn't been charged for a year because, in their minds, the government is protecting him because the government's a bunch of Trump-loving Nazis. 0.76

00:55:58.000 So it assuages them.

00:55:59.000 But thirdly, there's a problem.

00:56:01.000 If they hit Rhodes with a serious charge, and Rhodes is a Fed, then Rhodes has leverage over them and can say, I'm gonna go rogue if you guys betray me.

00:56:10.000 But I think they have the perfect cover story for that, too, because they could go to Rhodes and say, look, we're going to hit you with a seditious conspiracy charge.

00:56:16.000 It's going to sound serious, but the public story is you are going to cooperate and tell us what you know about Alex Jones.

00:56:24.000 Tell us what you know about Roger Stone.

00:56:26.000 Just smear a bunch of dirt on Trump's inner circle, which is what the media wants more than anything.

00:56:33.000 And so the public story will look like, oh, Rhodes is cooperating because he's giving up Trump's inner circle and so they won't follow through the charges.

00:56:43.000 And so they don't force Rhodes to go rogue.

00:56:47.000 They shut up the feds erection quote-unquote conspiracy theorists on the right.

00:56:52.000 They shut up the people on the left who are furious.

00:56:54.000 He wasn't charged and they put more dirt on Trump's inner circle all in one move.

00:56:59.000 So I think I'm not saying that's that's necessarily what it is.

00:57:04.000 But if I were Consulting with the Feds and saying, what's the most elegant solution to this problem that you're in right now?

00:57:11.000 This looks pretty close to that.

00:57:12.000 It would also shatter the Oath Keepers, I would imagine, by ripping the head off the snake.

00:57:16.000 Well, let me just point out one very obvious and definitive fact.

00:57:21.000 The federal officers here are conspiracy theorists.

00:57:25.000 Oh, yes.

00:57:26.000 They've not proven any conspiracy.

00:57:27.000 Literally.

00:57:28.000 They've actually just theorized a conspiracy took place and have yet to prove it to anybody.

00:57:33.000 So for the time being, a bunch of conspiracy theorists are ceding information to CNN who reports it as fact.

00:57:39.000 Mind you, the reporter, I won't say her name, is one of the lead reporters in Russiagate.

00:57:44.000 I'm sorry.

00:57:45.000 That one wrong.

00:57:45.000 I got that one wrong.

00:57:46.000 Not that reporter.

00:57:46.000 That was wrong.

00:57:47.000 That was the Russia thing. 0.85

00:57:48.000 But I'll just leave it at that and I got that one mixed up.

00:57:52.000 Yes.

00:57:53.000 And just in light of this conspiracy theory, you're absolutely right.

00:57:57.000 And you're right in the literal sense.

00:57:59.000 Benny Thompson, who is the chair of the January 6th committee, in his personal capacity, sued

00:58:06.000 Trump, Roger Stone, Oath Keepers, and Proud Boys, and laid out his literal conspiracy

00:58:13.000 theory, which is that Trump's inner circle colluded with the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers 0.53

00:58:17.000 in order to do January 6th.

00:58:19.000 That's actually the conspiracy theory, which is weird because given the prominent role that Stuart Rhodes played in the January 6th Chairman's Theory, he waited until November to subpoena Rhodes.

00:58:31.000 I find that also a little bit weird.

00:58:33.000 And he only did that after Revolver News put on the pressure by saying, what the hell's going on with the committee?

00:58:39.000 They're neglecting roads and they're going after seemingly anyone who was within a mile radius of the Capitol on January 6th and taking their phones and communications and so forth.

00:58:50.000 So where does it go?

00:58:51.000 Well, they're not going to convict him.

00:58:54.000 I think that's extremely unlikely, but I think a very interesting dynamic is in play.

00:59:03.000 I think it's an elegant attempt, but it's also a risky attempt because the more that they do this, just like their cover-up with EPS saying, oh EPS isn't a Fed because EPS talked to the committee and told us he wasn't a Fed, without releasing EPS's exact statements and without even telling us I want to ask you about this.

00:59:23.000 statement was under oath and it's a weirdly precise statement of Epps not

00:59:28.000 being a law enforcement official. Well, DOD is not law enforcement. There are a

00:59:32.000 lot of other agencies that aren't law enforcement that he may have been

00:59:35.000 affiliated with. I want to ask you about this. So a lot of speculation, a

00:59:40.000 lot of theorizing, but to be fair there's nothing definitive here when it comes to

00:59:44.000 Ray Epps. No charges, which is strange to me to be completely honest because

00:59:49.000 Because Kinzinger is downplaying the incitement of insurrection.

00:59:52.000 And when it comes to the Oath Keepers, you bring up a lot of interesting points as to why they're only charging him now.

00:59:58.000 However, when I go to revolver.news, hmm, what's this?

01:00:02.000 NewsGuard says you're fake news, good sir.

01:00:04.000 They give you a 0 out of 100 credibility score.

01:00:08.000 Now, why would that be?

01:00:10.000 Are you spinning yarns here?

01:00:12.000 Well, yeah, so news you do to Bill Gates, right?

01:00:16.000 So NewsGuard is this sort of scam organization that basically their shill is they say we

01:00:23.000 are going to provide a nutrition label to websites and the websites that cover stuff

01:00:30.000 about you know, covid that that the pharmaceutical industries don't like the stuff that covers

01:00:36.000 stuff about national security state that the various authorities don't like those have

01:00:40.000 bad nutrition labels.

01:00:41.000 And so we reported on them pretty strongly and pretty severely and the organizations that are involved.

01:00:48.000 So just to give you a sense of what this organization is like, one of their strategic advisors is Michael Hayden.

01:00:54.000 who is the former head of the CIA, also former head of the NSA, whose claim to fame was basically

01:01:01.000 lying to Congress about the existence of the NSA's surveillance program, which Edward Snowden

01:01:07.000 went on to reveal. So Michael Hayden's part of their group.

01:01:11.000 Another guy, let me see his, his, funded by Microsoft. Exactly.

01:01:16.000 Funded by another guy is Rick Stangle.

01:01:19.000 He's a real champion.

01:01:20.000 He's also an advisor for them.

01:01:22.000 He identified himself in a panel as Obama's chief propagandist.

01:01:28.000 And he stated he has no problem whatsoever with propaganda, and in fact supports the idea of countries using propaganda domestically against their own citizens.

01:01:37.000 And so this is Rick Stangle, who is advising NewsGuard to apply nutrition labels to websites.

01:01:45.000 They have financial ties to pharmaceutical giants like Pfizer and others.

01:01:50.000 Simply put, this is an organization that's so compromised with such conflicts of interest

01:01:57.000 that the idea that not only are they so—the arrogance and the chutzpah of them saying

01:02:04.000 we have the authority to judge other sites, but we are going to ask other people to pay

01:02:09.000 us to tell them what sites they should look at and trust.

01:02:13.000 It's really amazing and I guess it's a good grift if you can get it.

01:02:19.000 I don't think they're as bad as you put them out to be, but I do think they're bad.

01:02:21.000 I've criticized them for being heavily biased.

01:02:23.000 One of the things they do is, you know, these mainstream news organizations are the basis for which they decide things are true.

01:02:30.000 So if you publish something, they're inherently biased against you to say, that's probably not true.

01:02:35.000 If the New York Times publishes it, even if it's not true, it's inherently true.

01:02:39.000 Right.

01:02:39.000 Because the only way they can actually fact check something is by checking it against mainstream news sources, which creates a feedback loop of mainstream media will always be credible because they are.

01:02:48.000 That's true, but I think it's also quite remarkable that they have, you know, deep financial ties with Pfizer and that on their board is literally the head of the NSA and the CIA, whose basic job it was to lie.

01:03:00.000 If you're the head of the CIA, your job is to lie.

01:03:03.000 But so here's the way I see it.

01:03:04.000 And he's their advisor?

01:03:06.000 So one of the sources we like to use, Post Millennial, they're certified as very credible.

01:03:12.000 Like, you know, very much so.

01:03:13.000 There are a lot of websites, Daily Mail.

01:03:15.000 You probably shouldn't have said that because they're going to go to the site tomorrow and Post Millennial is going to have like one star.

01:03:23.000 The reason why we use NewsGuard is because we know their bias and it's effectively a shield.

01:03:30.000 So, I love it when, you know, early on when I started producing videos, I'd get a lot of these claims that I was pushing conspiracies or fake news, and so I installed NewsGuard.

01:03:39.000 And now, when we have a segment up and we have the article on the screen and it's got the NewsGuard shield, we just say, oh, it's okay, Bill Gates approved us.

01:03:45.000 Bill Gates approved us, Hayden approved us, we only use sources that are certified by NewsGuard.

01:03:50.000 So, in doing so, first, and I'll say this too, I don't think it's actually, it's not even that difficult to get certified by NewsGuard.

01:03:56.000 It's just, you need a corrections policy, you need to put bylines in your articles and, you know, let them know who people are.

01:04:03.000 The Economist doesn't have bylines.

01:04:05.000 But what's NewsGuard's rating of The Economist?

01:04:07.000 Actually, let's check it out.

01:04:08.000 You know, the Rothschild Connected Economist, ooh.

01:04:10.000 I know they don't have bylines, it's annoying.

01:04:14.000 Let's see if we can pull it up, even.

01:04:16.000 Well, they're good, and they're actually labeled as... There are no bylines on The Economist?

01:04:22.000 Not usually.

01:04:23.000 I don't think so.

01:04:24.000 Some websites don't... Oh, yeah, look at this.

01:04:26.000 No byline.

01:04:27.000 And NewsGuard says this website adheres to all nine of their standards, including the site provides the name of content creators along with either contact or biographical information.

01:04:37.000 Well, the first article I pulled up doesn't have one.

01:04:40.000 Let's pull up another article and see if we got Australia cancels... No byline.

01:04:44.000 No bylines.

01:04:45.000 None whatsoever.

01:04:46.000 No byline.

01:04:48.000 So this is what I've been saying about their bias.

01:04:50.000 Is it at the bottom of the story by any chance?

01:04:51.000 Is that possible?

01:04:53.000 Typically, the byline needs to be at the top.

01:04:55.000 So when it says international, there's nothing there, and you scroll down and there's no bylines, then suffice it to say, there are no bylines on The Economist.

01:05:02.000 Good call-out, by the way.

01:05:03.000 This is the issue, I say, with their bias, and it's obvious.

01:05:07.000 But there are many outlets that, you know, they'll get a few strikes, but it allows us to break through and effectively provides us a shield in that it can be like, hey, look, when this happened and it's reported by this outlet and they say it's true, well, it's certified by NewsGuard, so good luck.

01:05:21.000 The elite level is zero stars plus being fired by Biden.

01:05:26.000 That's how you know you're doing something right.

01:05:30.000 Have you guys heard this IPG Media Brands strikes exclusive deal with NewsGuard to go beyond website ratings to rate individual cable and broadcast TV news shows?

01:05:38.000 Well, there you go.

01:05:39.000 This is from early December 21.

01:05:42.000 They've been trying to create, at YouTube and with NewsGuard and with his other outlets, an acceptable lane of conversation.

01:05:49.000 Within reason, I'm willing to use websites that are NewsGuard certified.

01:05:55.000 When it comes to an article you guys publish about like Ray Apps, and it's just showing videos and asking questions about it, that's credible.

01:06:02.000 You literally published a video that's been published in other places.

01:06:04.000 I have no qualms with that.

01:06:06.000 I can fact check what you put and be like, they're telling the truth.

01:06:09.000 The fact that I don't know who published it, but I know you run it, is immaterial to me.

01:06:13.000 When it comes to Project Veritas, they give Veritas a strike, saying they're not credible.

01:06:17.000 Which is absurd to me, because Veritas does original reporting and publishes all of the videos.

01:06:23.000 So how could you argue that's not correct?

01:06:25.000 Well, you're absolutely right that I think largely it is a kind of grift.

01:06:31.000 It's basically the Theranos of content moderation, but it's got all these national security crooks Um, you know, advising, but I think it's very instructive.

01:06:43.000 So Rick Stangle, the guy that I mentioned who described himself as Obama's chief propagandist, in, uh, we, Revolver ran a piece exposing NewsGuard, which may play into their, uh, less than charitable rating of us.

01:06:56.000 But in, in our piece on NewsGuard, Rick Stangle goes on to say, you know what?

01:07:01.000 As he, the, it was a Q&A period and someone asked, so why aren't you going after Fox News?

01:07:07.000 What's the matter?

01:07:07.000 And he basically said, I'm paraphrasing, but people are free to go to the article.

01:07:13.000 He basically says, you know, I understand why you would want to go after Fox News, but

01:07:17.000 we have to basically have this semblance of some kind of neutrality.

01:07:22.000 And if we go after Fox News, it's just not going to work because Fox News is so mainstream.

01:07:28.000 Plus, there are some good reporters at Fox, like Shepard Smith and Chris Wallace.

01:07:35.000 Those are the two examples.

01:07:36.000 And Shepard Smith, of course, is not there anymore, and Chris Wallace is not there anymore.

01:07:42.000 What is it?

01:07:42.000 CNN and MSNBC?

01:07:45.000 Yeah, I think he went to NBC, but I'm not I'm not sure.

01:07:48.000 But that's the attitude they have.

01:07:50.000 And so it's like, well, we kind of we can't ding Fox News completely, otherwise we have no pretense to credibility.

01:07:58.000 And plus, Fox has some good people like Shepard Smith.

01:08:01.000 You know, that's the attitude that they bring to this content moderation, assigning nutrition labels, which in itself is a bizarre and somewhat creepy analogy to apply to information. 0.95

01:08:13.000 You know who's got balls? 0.93

01:08:15.000 Tucker Carlson. 0.99

01:08:16.000 Oh yes.

01:08:17.000 Because, you know, I think he's better than, if I was going to look at their primetime lineup, not the biggest fan of Hannity.

01:08:23.000 He's alright, whatever, I'm not the biggest fan.

01:08:24.000 Laura Ingham's pretty good, but not the biggest fan.

01:08:26.000 Kind of boring.

01:08:27.000 Yeah, but, and it's about originality.

01:08:30.000 It's about, you know, am I hearing something new, something unique, and like, Tucker?

01:08:35.000 Right.

01:08:36.000 He's willing to be, you know, make jokes.

01:08:39.000 He's willing to, he brings up new information, new questions.

01:08:42.000 He covers things that I'm like, wow, he's going for it.

01:08:44.000 Well, he's somebody, like, I really, really am a fan of Tucker and friends with Tucker and I've been, you know, he's done, you know, a lot in terms of You know, helping our reporting and so forth.

01:08:59.000 But I have to say about Tucker is, you know, what I commend him for the most is he's in a position of tremendous power and tremendous responsibility.

01:09:08.000 And he's one of the few people that you can say he's actually discharging that responsibility in the right way.

01:09:15.000 Not in the way that's easy, but in the way that's right.

01:09:18.000 And there are so few people that in that position where you have a cable show and Millions and millions of people are listening to you.

01:09:26.000 And he actually uses that position of authority in the way that it should be used.

01:09:32.000 And so I think we have to give him a lot of credit.

01:09:35.000 He doesn't just play party politics.

01:09:36.000 He's willing to criticize the Republicans.

01:09:38.000 He criticized Donald Trump when Donald Trump committed acts that were totally what he promised not to do.

01:09:44.000 So he's willing to go there.

01:09:46.000 He has a tweet where he said something about like the elites ripping off the working class

01:09:50.000 and DSA, like Democratic Socialists were posting it on their forums like, what bizarro world

01:09:56.000 are we in when Tucker is actually on our side on these issues?

01:10:00.000 I bring him up because you look at Shep Smith and you look at Chris Wallace and they're

01:10:04.000 the opposite. 0.99

01:10:05.000 They're the cowards. 0.97

01:10:08.000 There's no world in which a sane, rational person reading the news looks at what Tucker 0.99

01:10:12.000 Carlson does and says he's making this up.

01:10:15.000 Because certainly he gets things wrong, but he's willing to actually address factual issues that people in the media are lying about.

01:10:21.000 And touch things that no one... There are so many things that would not appear on American cable television were it not for Tucker.

01:10:30.000 Absolutely.

01:10:30.000 Across the entire spectrum of cable news channels.

01:10:32.000 So what is it at Fox News that Shep Smith has to flee from?

01:10:36.000 Brett Baier?

01:10:37.000 Brett Baier's fine.

01:10:39.000 He's just a straight news guy.

01:10:40.000 So why is Shep Smith like, oh, I can't be here?

01:10:43.000 Cowardice.

01:10:43.000 They're scared.

01:10:44.000 There's a cult phenomenon happening where if you don't just toe the line, even Fox News came out, and I will not drop this one, on the Ahmaud Arbery case of the McMichaels, cheered for the conviction of a guy who was just filming.

01:10:56.000 Cowardice.

01:10:58.000 If Fox News is unwilling to challenge something that was clearly unjust because they're spineless, Shep Smith was still scared enough that he'd leave?

01:11:05.000 These people are terrified.

01:11:07.000 We were talking about this earlier, about cancel culture on the right, and you were mentioning something to the effect that the right is actually more willing to cancel people further right of the moderate conservative.

01:11:19.000 Because they're too scared to look like they're outside of the opinion of mainstream corporate press.

01:11:23.000 Absolutely.

01:11:24.000 My favorite moment on national television was a few months ago when Tucker Carlson was handing it off to Sean Hannity and they got into an argument over Jeff Bezos.

01:11:33.000 Yes!

01:11:33.000 Because, again, Tucker Carlson wasn't afraid to talk about the billionaire class and the globalists that, of course, are connected to the CIA doing horrible things.

01:11:42.000 And Hannity tried to correct him on it and it made for just the perfect awkward television moment that was awesome to see.

01:11:48.000 Tucker was like, we're being ripped off by these guys.

01:11:51.000 And then Hannity in the handoff goes, if someone provides a service and makes money, I got no problem with that.

01:11:55.000 And Tucker did the Tucker face where he's like, you know, the girl probably like, what?

01:11:59.000 Right.

01:11:59.000 But so I, you look at these people who are now what, you know, NBC or CNN.

01:12:05.000 And what about Fox News's partial capitulation to corporate mainstream narratives scared them that they had to go full on capitulation to the corporate press, spinelessness.

01:12:16.000 I've been in the Fox building.

01:12:18.000 I've been on a bunch of these shows.

01:12:19.000 I've been on Tucker, I think, maybe once or twice.

01:12:22.000 I've been on the Primetime show very often.

01:12:24.000 I went on Jesse Waters' show several times.

01:12:26.000 And I'm in the building.

01:12:27.000 I'm in the makeup room.

01:12:29.000 I'm hearing what these people are talking about.

01:12:30.000 These people are questioning a lot of these narratives.

01:12:32.000 They're in the Fox building, for heaven's sake.

01:12:35.000 So how is it that Shep Smith could be surrounded by questions, nuance, and factual information, and go, I gotta get out of here?

01:12:42.000 One reason. 0.94

01:12:43.000 He knows it's right, but he's a spineless coward who's scared of being ostracized so he jumps ship. 0.86

01:12:47.000 Right, and he was tremendously unpopular with the Fox audience and probably got a better contract at NBC. 0.87

01:12:54.000 And Wallace?

01:12:54.000 But I think there's a really important point to be made about the economy of media.

01:13:02.000 And, you know, the typical kind of metaphor used, this sort of marketplace of ideas, simply doesn't apply to the media.

01:13:11.000 Because if it were the case, Tucker is the most popular cable news channel in the country.

01:13:18.000 And so you would think just out of self-interest, if it were all just a business, people would copy him just to get his ratings and get the money that comes with it.

01:13:29.000 But that's just simply not how things operate.

01:13:31.000 The profit motive is not the core of what a major media institution is about.

01:13:37.000 Influence always supersedes profit.

01:13:41.000 And that's why you don't see everyone lining up to just copy the Tucker model, even on Fox News,

01:13:47.000 because it's about influence.

01:13:49.000 And it's also why you see Tucker having advertisers cancel.

01:13:56.000 It's why, in my situation, what would seemingly be a really great moment in my career with Revolver News,

01:14:04.000 where I'm on Tucker and Tucker said, wow, you guys did a great job here, and the next day

01:14:09.000 were canceled from Google Ads.

01:14:11.000 And what other kind of business is it where you maximize your influence and that commensurately diminishes your earning capacity?

01:14:20.000 It's so the the business of information is just too important to the system to be left to the profit motive because it's the business of creating people's reality.

01:14:31.000 It's a propaganda industry.

01:14:33.000 That's why Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post.

01:14:35.000 Precisely.

01:14:35.000 Even though the Washington Post doesn't make enough money, he doesn't care about that because he's buying the influence.

01:14:40.000 Exactly.

01:14:41.000 Did you see the meme?

01:14:42.000 Where it's like, the Washington Post writes an article saying, you know, the problem of the billionaires and elites.

01:14:47.000 Then the next one is, Jeff Bezos purchases the Washington Post.

01:14:50.000 And the next article is, we should cut some slack to the billionaires and the elites.

01:14:53.000 Something like that.

01:14:55.000 Let's talk about this story we got from The Hill.

01:14:57.000 YouTube temporarily suspends and demonetizes Dan Bongino's channel.

01:15:01.000 This is huge.

01:15:03.000 Notably because Dan Bongino plays a huge role in Rumble.

01:15:06.000 I believe he's one of their principal investors.

01:15:08.000 And he's been moving off the platform.

01:15:09.000 Anyway, not to mention his podcast, The audio version is one of the biggest in the world.

01:15:14.000 The Hill says, YouTube took action against conservative commentator Dan Bongino's channel Friday, suspending it for violating the platform's COVID-19 misinformation policy and demonetizing it for at least 30 days.

01:15:26.000 The week-long posting suspension stems from a video where Bongino said that masks are useless in stopping the spread of the disease.

01:15:33.000 YouTube's COVID-19 policy specifically prohibits content denying the effectiveness of wearing masks, which the vast majority of the scientific community agrees reduces the risk of infection.

01:15:42.000 This is true.

01:15:44.000 Even the frontline doctors have said to wear masks.

01:15:47.000 This is one of the things that really bothers me, but Dan Bongino, in my opinion, is entitled to his opinion.

01:15:52.000 Of course.

01:15:53.000 YouTube doing this is driving a nail into their own platform. 0.98

01:15:57.000 And not only that, useless.

01:16:00.000 Is it a fact statement or a hyperbolic statement?

01:16:03.000 Is he saying it's not effective enough and just being hyperbolic?

01:16:06.000 Was his intention to say that they do nothing or that they don't do enough is the issue.

01:16:10.000 There's no room for nuance.

01:16:12.000 When I see things like this, it says to me that YouTube's actual intent is just to get rid of people like Dan Bongino.

01:16:17.000 Yeah, people that are on their way out anyway, and they're like, well, he's obviously sending his energy into Rumble right now.

01:16:23.000 And he's driving viewers from YouTube to Rumble, so they're like, cut him off now.

01:16:28.000 But I do want to point this out, too, for a lot of people, because we've had people on the show question the effectiveness of masks.

01:16:34.000 It is true, on the box, on the mask box, says it doesn't stop, you know, the COVID virus.

01:16:39.000 But it does stop you from spitting on people.

01:16:42.000 And for some reason, there was this flippening where early in the pandemic, conservatives wanted to wear masks and then all of a sudden didn't.

01:16:48.000 And now we're in this era where the right is saying, you know, things like masks are useless.

01:16:52.000 Let me just say this.

01:16:53.000 I've looked at a bunch of studies and a bunch of data.

01:16:55.000 The virus, as my understanding, can be transmitted aerosolized through vapor as well as from spit, if you're spitting.

01:17:01.000 If you're wearing a mask, you're blocking that spit and I think it's fairly obvious that would stop you from spitting on people and help reduce the transmission of COVID.

01:17:08.000 The frontline coalition of doctors that they do the mask protocol and talk about alternative treatments actually tell people to wear masks as well.

01:17:15.000 So I don't understand why there's like a tribal thing to say not wear them.

01:17:20.000 That being said, I oppose the suspension.

01:17:22.000 I oppose the censorship, obviously.

01:17:24.000 But you know what?

01:17:25.000 If it builds up Rumble, I'm not necessarily even the biggest fan of Rumble, mind you, but if it breaks the YouTube monopoly, then so be it.

01:17:33.000 Let them be their own demise.

01:17:35.000 I think YouTube's also dealing with a very tough situation.

01:17:38.000 Rogan getting 40 million to 50 million views, according to some estimates, with his latest interviews with Dr. Malone, Dr. McCullough.

01:17:46.000 And I think those big, huge instances that everyone's talking about is something that, of course, YouTube is missing out on.

01:17:54.000 And that's why we even talked about a few days ago why Joe Rogan's move to Spotify was a kind of genius move, a smarter move, because YouTube could deal without having Rogan on their platform, but Spotify can't.

01:18:06.000 YouTube's already censoring the videos that were on there, but there comes a certain point where people start seeing YouTube for what it is, and I think YouTube is reaching this kind of pivotal point Where they're like, holy crap, everyone's kind of jumping ship here.

01:18:20.000 What do we do?

01:18:20.000 I think this is a kind of very important turning stone moment where a lot of people are asking the questions, where do we go next?

01:18:28.000 Turning stone moment.

01:18:29.000 Yes.

01:18:30.000 Another lukism.

01:18:31.000 That's a good one.

01:18:32.000 Yes.

01:18:32.000 I don't know what a turning stone is, but I do like the sound of it.

01:18:35.000 We should make like a root, a stone with like, you know, ancient carvings on it, you know, changing the narrative.

01:18:40.000 The turning stone.

01:18:40.000 No, I think, you know, what we're seeing right now, the fear and panic over Joe Rogan.

01:18:44.000 And I believe what we're seeing here from YouTube is fear and panic over Dan Bongino.

01:18:49.000 So there have been a bunch of people, we were talking to the CEO of Rumble, who was saying that people do live streams on YouTube, and then tell everybody, okay, the rest of the show will only be on Rumble.

01:18:59.000 So they simulcast at the same time on both platforms, and then halfway through the show say, bye-bye YouTube, and turn it off to drive everyone to the other platform.

01:19:07.000 That's massive.

01:19:09.000 Yes.

01:19:09.000 That's very damaging.

01:19:11.000 Dan Bongino puts his show on Rumble.

01:19:13.000 Suspending him will do nothing.

01:19:14.000 In fact, it will just hurt YouTube.

01:19:16.000 Now, my ultimate fear is, YouTube plays a dirty game.

01:19:20.000 Google, Alphabet, they subsidize YouTube.

01:19:22.000 So it's very difficult for the likes of, say, Rumble, to compete with a partner program like YouTube, where Google gets all this money from external sources and then pays people.

01:19:30.000 But as Super Chats are becoming the principal driver of revenue, you look at Salty Cracker, who's on Rumble, and we were talking to the CEO of Rumble, and he's like, this guy is getting insane amounts of Super Chats.

01:19:43.000 He's doing better.

01:19:45.000 than he would be on YouTube, because people support him, and they're involved, and you'll get a better community on these other platforms.

01:19:51.000 I don't know if Rumble is the answer, but you know what?

01:19:53.000 The more I see this censorship, let these big tech companies be their own demise.

01:19:58.000 Yeah, I wouldn't say that Rumble is the answer, but it's definitely a soothing mechanism for the pain, for the moment.

01:20:04.000 It's not solving the problem of tech censorship, because it's still a proprietary, censorable network that is censoring actively.

01:20:10.000 It's just maybe more judicious in its censorship currently.

01:20:14.000 Um, I, you know, I'm all for it, but we gotta free the software code.

01:20:17.000 The absurdity of the YouTube position on this, as it pertains to COVID misinformation, is that so much changes every single day, from even Dr. Fauci himself.

01:20:27.000 How are we supposed to know what the rules are, or abide by rules, when the science keeps changing?

01:20:34.000 There's a meme of Fauci as Vader, where he's like, that science has changed, pray I don't change it further.

01:20:39.000 You know, the line, you know, he's like, the deal has changed, or whatever the arrangement.

01:20:42.000 So, when we're looking at their policy on COVID misinformation, and then you get breaking news where it's like, in New York, they have record-breaking cases, what are we supposed to say?

01:20:52.000 How are we even supposed to follow those rules?

01:20:54.000 Unless you are blind to history, to even recent history, and you just repeat whatever it is the mainstream media is saying, you're gonna get banned whenever they feel like banning you.

01:21:02.000 Well, that's a great point, because what you're saying means that it's all about controlling who's able to shape and drive narratives.

01:21:11.000 You can exist downstream from sanctioned narratives, and you're fine.

01:21:16.000 But if you're in the business of shaping narratives, then you're in trouble because you can't get out ahead of the mainstream authoritative sources.

01:21:25.000 It's as simple as that.

01:21:26.000 This is part of what's leading to impact investing.

01:21:29.000 Have you followed this impact investing?

01:21:30.000 Sorry, my headphones just cut out and back in.

01:21:32.000 Have you heard of this at all?

01:21:33.000 Impact investments?

01:21:34.000 This is like 21st century people with big money are coming to basically buy off influence.

01:21:38.000 It's all about purchasing influence now and getting ahead of it.

01:21:41.000 Well, I mean, influence is incredibly important.

01:21:44.000 Arguably more important than money itself.

01:21:46.000 I think so.

01:21:46.000 And that's how it's treated.

01:21:48.000 The media really is in the business of creating people's reality.

01:21:53.000 and that the the system needs that to sustain itself. The entire ecology of how the ruling

01:21:59.000 class exists, the regime exists, it all rests on shaping narratives for people and that that's

01:22:07.000 why it's more important than any profit and why profit motive is not never going to be the ultimate

01:22:12.000 factor in any major media organization. Controlling the myth. Do you remember when

01:22:16.000 Mika Brzezinski said that? I don't remember. She said it's our...

01:22:20.000 Mika Brzezinski said it's our job to control what people think or something like that.

01:22:24.000 I understand there's this shared myth.

01:22:26.000 That's Bignev Brzezinski's daughter, by the way, who's also a very interconnected globalist.

01:22:31.000 But the big aspect here is that this was a temporary suspension.

01:22:34.000 This is why I think this is an important moment with YouTube at first cutting Don Bongino off and then coming back and saying, OK, we'll give you your money back.

01:22:42.000 I think they're in a desperate situation.

01:22:43.000 I think they're losing a lot of Key critical viewers.

01:22:46.000 I think overall people are realizing, hey, I don't want to be dictated to, I don't want an algorithm curating what I should see.

01:22:52.000 I don't want my perspective limited to a few tech oligarchs and their flip-flop wearing, latte drinking, limousine liberal viewpoints. 0.99

01:23:00.000 I don't want that.

01:23:01.000 I want the internet that was first given to us, that was free, that was open, that was weird, that was wild.

01:23:08.000 I loved When I was able to go on there and see raw humanity in front of us and not a corporate Disney World viewpoint that is watered down to save slogans and talking points.

01:23:20.000 And I think YouTube is realizing that and I think, I mean, they're making a big change here and that's why I think they brought back monetization for Bongino.

01:23:30.000 Let's- brought back?

01:23:31.000 What do you mean?

01:23:32.000 They suspended him for a month?

01:23:32.000 Suspended temporarily.

01:23:33.000 No, no, no.

01:23:34.000 He's kicked out of the partner program.

01:23:35.000 He has to reapply in one month.

01:23:37.000 He's done.

01:23:38.000 He's out.

01:23:38.000 But let's play a fun game.

01:23:40.000 This is called Mika Brzezinski, whatever, Our Job to Control People Think, followed by her public statement after the fact.

01:23:47.000 Let me play the audio for you.

01:23:49.000 Exactly.

01:23:50.000 That is, that's exactly what I hear.

01:23:52.000 What Yamiche just said is what I hear from all the Trump supporters that I talked to who were Trump voters and are still Trump supporters. 0.75

01:24:00.000 They go, yeah, you guys are going crazy.

01:24:02.000 He's doing, what are you so surprised about?

01:24:04.000 He's doing exactly what he said he's going to do.

01:24:08.000 Well, and I think that the dangerous, you know, edges here are that he's trying to undermine the media, trying to make up his own facts, and it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think.

01:24:30.000 And that is our job.

01:24:32.000 Yeah, if you look at the issue, And that is our job, she said.

01:24:36.000 And then she tweets, did I say it's the media job to keep President Trump from making up his own facts?

01:24:40.000 Not that it's our job to control what people think.

01:24:43.000 Yo, she said, Trump could make up, you know, he could tell people exactly what to think, but that's our job.

01:24:48.000 Yeah, right.

01:24:49.000 And then she tweets, she didn't say it. 1.00

01:24:52.000 You gotta be a special kind of stupid to fall for the media at this point. 1.00

01:24:56.000 I'm sorry, man. 1.00

01:24:57.000 I just can't deal with these people.

01:24:58.000 I think that when you talk about a shared mythology, humans need one, otherwise they fight.

01:25:03.000 So we had Christianity for a while, religions developed as a shared myth.

01:25:06.000 And now like news media is kind of like a shared mythology.

01:25:09.000 Everyone can tune in and organize and believe the same thing.

01:25:12.000 But obviously when they're lying to you, you don't want that myth.

01:25:16.000 We've got to find a more stable, real myth.

01:25:19.000 But what do we do in this fractured information economy?

01:25:22.000 What's the real mythology of today?

01:25:25.000 Their ratings are down by 90%.

01:25:26.000 I'm going to have some champagne.

01:25:30.000 I'm going to sit back.

01:25:31.000 We're going to have a good night.

01:25:32.000 It's Friday night.

01:25:32.000 We got news earlier in the week that MSNBC and CNN's ratings are down by 90%.

01:25:37.000 Guess what?

01:25:37.000 Our ratings are going up.

01:25:39.000 Your viewership is going up.

01:25:40.000 So you know what?

01:25:41.000 I don't care about these people.

01:25:43.000 I love exposing them and showing these duplicitous...

01:25:46.000 Uh, evil people are lying to you and manipulating.

01:25:49.000 And I, I, I long for a world where people, they assume personal responsibility.

01:25:53.000 They work hard.

01:25:53.000 They strive to be the best person they can be.

01:25:56.000 And that's only me only that only will be possible when they're getting correct information for which to build their lives off of.

01:26:03.000 Yep.

01:26:04.000 And there's even poll numbers showing that Americans trust the media on COVID for an estimated 10% of Americans.

01:26:13.000 10% of Americans trust the media when it comes to COVID.

01:26:15.000 Just that little?

01:26:16.000 Yep.

01:26:16.000 Amazing.

01:26:16.000 You gotta be careful.

01:26:17.000 And Fauci's at 31%, I think?

01:26:19.000 Even if the media is being honest, like if I draw a six on the table, and you're like, that's a nine.

01:26:24.000 And I'm like, that's a six, Darren.

01:26:26.000 And then we get into an argument.

01:26:27.000 We're both right, but we're obviously not saying the same.

01:26:30.000 We're seeing different things, but we're both right.

01:26:32.000 So even if a media is is being honest with you, you're still going to have people seeing different things.

01:26:39.000 And we got to figure out a way to communicate a shared like understanding of reality, even when we're seeing it differently.

01:26:45.000 You know what I think?

01:26:46.000 I think I'm going to buy a bunch of CNN swag and memorabilia because it's going to be, you know, not that they're about to they're collapsing and crumbling.

01:26:54.000 Yeah, it's going to become, you know, like once CNN is gone, people go like, oh, whoa, I remember that.

01:26:59.000 I see him in the air.

01:26:59.000 It's going to be like the Buffalo nickel.

01:27:01.000 That's right.

01:27:02.000 That's right.

01:27:04.000 It'll be five years from now and I'll be like, yo, check this out.

01:27:06.000 I got a CNN mug.

01:27:08.000 Crystal Pepsi.

01:27:10.000 Yeah.

01:27:12.000 Good.

01:27:13.000 Good.

01:27:13.000 You know what, man?

01:27:14.000 We have a decentralizing media environment.

01:27:17.000 There's good things and there's bad things about it.

01:27:19.000 The bad is that some people, you know, golf in rabbit holes.

01:27:23.000 That can happen.

01:27:24.000 But for the most part, you end up with, you know, on YouTube, and now with competition forming on Rumble, the ability to get multiple voices of differing opinions, which gives you a healthier diet.

01:27:35.000 When you go on one of these platforms, and this is why I think it's bad that YouTube is censoring people, because here's the benefit.

01:27:40.000 You can go on YouTube and look up something about immigration.

01:27:43.000 You can find videos from me, kind of moderate, you can find videos from Crowder, more conservative, videos from Jimmy Dore, anti-establishment left, and maybe even, you know, the Young Turks establishment left.

01:27:53.000 You get all of those different views, you get a healthier diet through YouTube.

01:27:56.000 YouTube censorship is turning them into everything wrong with CNN and MSNBC, that all their hosts tow the exact same line, say the exact same thing, and do not give you a healthy perspective.

01:28:08.000 I like the fact that there's more websites, more channels, more personalities, that people have less centralized power in this, because now you can have people who watch this show, watch Crowder and Jimmy Dore, and be like, hey Tim, you were wrong about this, Jimmy Dore said this, and Crowder said this, and I can be like, oh how, oh wow, good point!

01:28:24.000 More voices, better.

01:28:26.000 Right.

01:28:27.000 censorship at Diminishing return more voices better diminishing return on

01:28:31.000 that for sure have too many voices than it becomes Incoherent although as long as you can select the way you

01:28:36.000 viewed the voices maybe more voices the better I don't understand how YouTube thinks that they could have 0.99

01:28:41.000 a future when they're trying to shove down our throats this nasty crap 0.97

01:28:45.000 That is CNN that people don't even want to watch in airports and hotel room. I think that by and large given up 0.98

01:28:51.000 I mean their viewership is going down dramatically as Tim just mentioned

01:28:54.000 But and and this is this is their strategy whenever you look up something news related

01:28:59.000 We get CNN something that people overwhelmingly don't like how can a business keep well again again it gets to the

01:29:06.000 point It's not a business in the usual sense and the fact that

01:29:09.000 they are continuing this trajectory of presumably hurting their customer experience and so forth

01:29:16.000 indicates for one that that's their not their primary objective is to be

01:29:20.000 important because they don't really have to. They're subsidized by the most

01:29:23.000 powerful company in the world essentially and secondly it shows the

01:29:27.000 more that they censor it shows that they're actually betting on all of

01:29:31.000 these incipient alternatives to be crushed in some fashion or another and I

01:29:36.000 think that's another thing that we should really think about is that yes

01:29:39.000 you know Rumble's growing and those alternatives are growing.

01:29:42.000 But there might be just an ultimate bottleneck to a genuine alternative to what YouTube was supposed to be.

01:29:50.000 And when something gets to be too influential and too subversive, the regime will find ways to destroy it.

01:29:57.000 That's true.

01:29:58.000 But they're losing, it looks like.

01:29:59.000 And, you know, we had this funny article.

01:30:01.000 I don't think we'll get into it in greater detail, but Joe Rogan mocks Getter, saying, I don't know how to get off.

01:30:06.000 He complained the site artificially bloats follower counts by including a person's Twitter following.

01:30:11.000 And he's right about that.

01:30:12.000 I like Getter.

01:30:13.000 There's a lot of users on it.

01:30:14.000 That's important.

01:30:15.000 but i do think gab is substantially better in that they run their own

01:30:18.000 infrastructure and they're actually challenging establishment becoming a

01:30:22.000 real foreign well it's just a different enterprise you know there

01:30:25.000 gab is really doing a full spectrum like they're taking very seriously the idea

01:30:30.000 of just build your own acts

01:30:32.000 and they're doing it with the platform with the server with this browser with uh...

01:30:38.000 payment process they're they're going full spectrum and they're they're just playing a very different game a much

01:30:44.000 more difficult game i give them tremendous credit

01:30:47.000 for you know you know andrew torba for his ambition his persistence his boldness

01:30:53.000 uh... and you know i wish him all the best in it but

01:30:57.000 i really think if if you want to be at on the main stage as a communications

01:31:01.000 platform you're ultimately going to come up to that bottleneck

01:31:05.000 of the national security state and of the regime And they have many ways to deal with emerging threats like this.

01:31:13.000 They can go after centralized services of any kind.

01:31:16.000 So if you control the logins, if you control the passwords, if you store any data, the CIA can come take it at any moment.

01:31:22.000 So you want to decentralize services in that manner.

01:31:25.000 And they can also take your code, your source code, and force you to shut up and do what

01:31:29.000 they want.

01:31:30.000 And if you're the only one that has the code, they basically lock it in and they make it

01:31:34.000 do what they want.

01:31:35.000 So you free the code out so that if you get stuck, at least the code's still out there

01:31:38.000 for people to wrap up more organizations.

01:31:41.000 He's a communist.

01:31:42.000 Don't listen to him.

01:31:43.000 Cyber communist.

01:31:45.000 We argue about the free the code thing.

01:31:46.000 I don't think it's a solution.

01:31:48.000 For me, it's a vulnerability for the deep state to take a hold of your company if that's the only place where that code exists.

01:31:56.000 If someone builds code, the code belongs to them and their company.

01:31:58.000 To the CIA.

01:31:59.000 It belongs to the CIA.

01:32:00.000 If the CIA builds it.

01:32:01.000 No.

01:32:02.000 If Google builds it, the CIA controls it, unfortunately.

01:32:05.000 Take a drink, everyone.

01:32:06.000 Ian said, free the code.

01:32:09.000 We need a bingo card.

01:32:12.000 But I imagine, along with what Darren, what you're saying is that the government does come when the organization gets big enough and will start to control it from the outside.

01:32:19.000 Even look at Parler.

01:32:21.000 Parler, I think it's fair to say, is a joke compared to Gab, and it's a joke compared to Getter.

01:32:28.000 And even in that case, when it looked like, oh, it might be some type of threat, January 6 completely destroyed it.

01:32:36.000 Yeah.

01:32:36.000 You know, on top of, I think, probably incompetence and so forth.

01:32:40.000 But all it served was, oh, there's a bunch of chatter on Parler pertaining to this insurrection event.

01:32:47.000 Now, all of a sudden, it is a vehicle for threatening the national security state and it's treated like a threat.

01:32:54.000 And that gets back full circle back to the Lindell situation is that if you are a genuine threat to the regime or in any in any remote sense, you become Iran. 0.79

01:33:06.000 Let's go to superchats, my friends.

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01:33:12.000 And if you haven't already, get those superchats in.

01:33:14.000 We're gonna read your comments.

01:33:15.000 Alright.

01:33:16.000 A lot of the first superchats was everyone telling us our audio was bad.

01:33:20.000 And people were like, Tim's, their conspiracy theory was that we purposefully had the audio bad to get a bunch of free superchats.

01:33:26.000 It worked!

01:33:28.000 Alright.

01:33:29.000 Let's see what we got.

01:33:31.000 Nerd Gamer says just wanted to say it's been a rough couple months for me from my gf of five years cheating and some other family issues but whenever i watch the podcast i feel like i finally have friends to talk to even if i can't respond nerd gamer buddy thanks for being our friend and hanging out and watching that show it's because of people like you were able to do this and it's possible and uh you know what man go for a walk Go to a bar, pick up a hobby.

01:33:53.000 Ian and I, we like playing Magic the Gathering.

01:33:55.000 Go to a game shop.

01:33:56.000 You'll make a ton of friends, and that's always really important.

01:33:58.000 And the best thing is, once you're in the shop, you can put on the podcast and get a whole bunch of new friends to listen to our show, and it's great marketing.

01:34:05.000 I'm just kidding, man.

01:34:06.000 Do right by you, and we appreciate you hanging out, and we appreciate the super chat.

01:34:12.000 Delamar says Monday morning and over the weekend withdraw everything from Minnesota Bank and Trust to make them insolvent.

01:34:18.000 Destroy that bank.

01:34:19.000 Well, I don't know about all that.

01:34:21.000 Alright, you guys do what you think is right, but I will tell you this.

01:34:23.000 If the goal of this bank was not to generate negative press and be involved in this, then the stupidest thing to do would be to terminate a very high-profile individual's bank accounts and all of them at the same time.

01:34:37.000 And now, here we are.

01:34:39.000 Everyone talking about it.

01:34:40.000 Congratulations, Minnesota Bank & Trust.

01:34:42.000 You've put yourself in the spotlight.

01:34:45.000 All right, Joe Burns says, hey Tim and friends, can you please do a favor from one chicken fan to another?

01:34:50.000 There's a breed of chicken known as showgirls.

01:34:52.000 They're fluffy white chickens with naked necks and purple skin. 0.99

01:34:55.000 Fans will love them. 0.98

01:34:57.000 That sounds very silly.

01:34:58.000 So the Black Star chickens that we have, the girls are beautiful. 1.00

01:35:03.000 This is when you breed a Rhode Island Red with a barred Plymouth Rock. 0.97

01:35:06.000 Oh, those are silly looking little things. 0.89

01:35:07.000 That's it. 0.76

01:35:08.000 The girls have like these black feathers that glisten green and purple in the light. 1.00

01:35:12.000 It's crazy. 0.80

01:35:13.000 But the boys, They are goofy looking. 0.98

01:35:16.000 They've got like brown spiky feathers on their heads that like they're all mismatched and off color and they're silly and funny. 0.97

01:35:24.000 They make funny sounds. 0.85

01:35:24.000 The showgirl's incredible. 0.85

01:35:25.000 It looks like, what's the dog that looks like that?

01:35:28.000 Pomeranian or what?

01:35:29.000 Poodle.

01:35:30.000 It looks like a poodle.

01:35:31.000 The haircut's like a poodle.

01:35:32.000 So interesting.

01:35:35.000 Alright, Ghost of Recon says public banking.

01:35:37.000 You mean you want your bank to be run by politicians and have authority codified in law?

01:35:41.000 Dude, you literally want communism in banking.

01:35:43.000 No, I want banking to be run by no one.

01:35:45.000 I mean, maybe that's what cryptocurrency is, is public banking.

01:35:49.000 I mean, the ledger's public, so maybe that's what that is.

01:35:52.000 Perhaps.

01:35:54.000 Glizzy Water says, Trucker from last night, I just had one of those effin' stink bugs scare the ish out of me and my truck. 0.55

01:36:00.000 He was hiding on the cap to my drink.

01:36:03.000 Ugh! 0.97

01:36:03.000 They're the worst! 0.97

01:36:05.000 They're annoying.

01:36:06.000 Have you seen the stink bugs around here?

01:36:07.000 Because they're in the DC area everywhere.

01:36:09.000 They call them shield bugs too because they look like little shields.

01:36:12.000 They're doofy, and they're kind of funny.

01:36:14.000 They just stink if you scare them.

01:36:17.000 We also have wasps out here, and so in the middle of the workday, when it was hotter out, a wasp would somehow find its way in.

01:36:24.000 Now that's a problem for me.

01:36:26.000 And then I'm fighting a wasp in my room, like, you've gotta stop that thing.

01:36:29.000 With the stink bugs, though, they're just... 1.00

01:36:31.000 They're just really dumb. 0.99

01:36:33.000 And, you know, I don't mind them. 1.00

01:36:35.000 You know, they mind their own business.

01:36:37.000 And one time, I finished a segment, so I record my segments if you guys watch them at youtube.com slash timcastnews and timcast.

01:36:45.000 I finished recording because I recorded it all live.

01:36:47.000 And then I saw a stink bug clapping.

01:36:49.000 I don't know what it was actually doing.

01:36:50.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:36:51.000 I don't know what it was actually doing, but it was just banging its little hands together.

01:36:54.000 And I'm like, yeah, they're doofy little things.

01:36:57.000 And then I suck them up in the vacuum and throw them outside.

01:36:59.000 They dance, they communicate with movement.

01:37:01.000 Insects do, yeah.

01:37:02.000 I've hung out with bugs outside and you'll get real close and just watch them and they'll dance back and forth and do a jig and then dance to the other side and do a jig.

01:37:09.000 I was also on LSD that day.

01:37:11.000 But it was dancing, it was dancing.

01:37:13.000 Maybe you don't actually, maybe you don't know what you actually saw.

01:37:16.000 I've seen it on multiple occasions.

01:37:18.000 That reminds me of that, like, in the vlog.

01:37:21.000 We had that segment where Ian was like, I was on a roof and there was a wolf spirit.

01:37:25.000 And it was like, I accidentally let it in my soul.

01:37:27.000 And I was high.

01:37:28.000 I was high that night.

01:37:29.000 That explains it.

01:37:30.000 That was THC that night.

01:37:32.000 That was crazy.

01:37:32.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:37:35.000 Trash Panda says, part of the reason Japan attacked Pearl Harbor was because we froze their assets after they invaded China.

01:37:41.000 Mess with the money and get clapped.

01:37:43.000 Is that what happened?

01:37:44.000 I did not hear that.

01:37:44.000 How's that not more public knowledge?

01:37:48.000 Whoa, is this true?

01:37:49.000 Mr. Brightside says Trump booed for saying he wouldn't investigate Hunter Biden.

01:37:53.000 I don't want to hurt a family.

01:37:56.000 There's a new variant of TDS causes blindness.

01:37:58.000 Is that true?

01:37:59.000 Did Trump really say that?

01:38:00.000 I haven't seen it yet, but I wouldn't be surprised.

01:38:05.000 Samuel Powell says I live in North Carolina and I saw on the local news the U.S.

01:38:08.000 Army is doing training across two dozen counties to prepare to fight guerrilla freedom fighters.

01:38:13.000 The military is not on the people's side.

01:38:14.000 My friend, this is fake news!

01:38:16.000 It's actually true they're doing this, but this is Operation Robin Sage, which has been going on since the 1970s.

01:38:22.000 It is a standard training exercise for Special Forces.

01:38:26.000 I think they have retired Green Berets do it. 0.99

01:38:28.000 They've been doing it for 50 years.

01:38:29.000 It's not a new thing.

01:38:30.000 It's not new, yeah.

01:38:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:32.000 Don't, don't, don't, you know, the media is definitely trying to hype that up.

01:38:38.000 Alright, let's see.

01:38:39.000 Oh yeah, yeah, this is a good one.

01:38:40.000 Seth Covington says, please someone show me the video of the girl who was rubbing onions in her eyes.

01:38:44.000 You remember that?

01:38:45.000 I don't.

01:38:46.000 On January 6th as a woman, it's the weirdest thing. 1.00

01:38:48.000 I don't think it means- I'm not saying I know what it means, but she's like crying.

01:38:51.000 You can see her rubbing onion on her eye and then someone records her and she's crying about something.

01:38:55.000 This is a weird video.

01:38:56.000 Bizarre.

01:38:57.000 Yeah, but you don't know what that means, you know what I mean?

01:38:59.000 Like, it's certainly weird.

01:39:01.000 I can confirm, in 1941, when the Japanese invaded the French colony of Indochina, the U.S.

01:39:08.000 freezed their assets, cut off Japan from iron, petroleum, and tech.

01:39:12.000 Yeah, yeah, and cut them off with energy, and I think that's why they... They needed the oil for their navy.

01:39:18.000 Yep.

01:39:19.000 All right.

01:39:19.000 H Music says, Additionally, I think it was, was it Ted Cruz when he said, were there any FBI agents or informants?

01:39:25.000 And they said, I can't answer that question.

01:39:26.000 on the FBI website and then removed even though he hasn't been charged. Additionally, I think it was,

01:39:31.000 was it Ted Cruz when he said, were there any FBI agents or informants? And they said,

01:39:35.000 I can't answer that question. Right. No, I mean, that's true.

01:39:38.000 That was first reported at Revolver that Ray Epps, it's not like they can say we don't know who he is.

01:39:45.000 He was considered to be one of the 20 most important people immediately after January 6th that they wanted to identify.

01:39:51.000 The internet identified him within days and they did nothing until Revolver ran a report on his fellow Oath Keeper Stuart Rhodes and the next day they scrubbed him off their public database.

01:40:02.000 And since all of this blew up about Epps, the only subsequent official comment from any FBI agent, as I mentioned, was the Phoenix FBI people said they had no idea who he was.

01:40:15.000 So it's a very, it's a strange situation for sure.

01:40:20.000 All right.

01:40:20.000 Dusty says, Tim, I live in Colorado.

01:40:22.000 I was going to work the National Western Stock Show this weekend and chose not to because the state and national government is going to fine $5,000 per person for not wearing a mask inside.

01:40:33.000 I do not comply.

01:40:34.000 Well, I'll just tell y'all this.

01:40:35.000 Frederick County, which is right next to us, has a mask mandate.

01:40:40.000 In Frederick proper, we got hassled over masks, and it was the weirdest thing because we didn't walk into a building and just start fighting with people.

01:40:48.000 We walked into a restaurant, nobody was wearing any masks except for the staff members.

01:40:52.000 And then they were like, put this on.

01:40:53.000 And I was like, well, nobody's wearing any masks.

01:40:56.000 And they were like, that's fine, they're eating.

01:40:57.000 And I'm like, oh, we're here to eat.

01:40:59.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:41:00.000 Yeah.

01:41:00.000 So we got in it, I was just like, dude, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to leave.

01:41:04.000 Because they wanted me to put the mask on literally for five seconds and then take it off.

01:41:07.000 That to me is nonsense. But we went out to outside of Frederick proper, the city and the county.

01:41:14.000 No issues. No one was wearing masks. Nobody cared. The businesses didn't care.

01:41:18.000 And these were big chain businesses. Yeah. Barnes and Noble.

01:41:21.000 Big corporate stores.

01:41:21.000 They're just like, we ain't doing it.

01:41:23.000 And I was like, well, I guess for some reason in the downtown area where there's probably government enforcement, they're terrified.

01:41:29.000 But in the outer, you know, rims of the county, people are like, get out of here, dude.

01:41:34.000 The border with Virginia is five minutes and West Virginia is 10 minutes.

01:41:39.000 And if people don't want, if you're told to do something you don't want to do, they're going to, they're going to go find the same store on the side of the river in a different state.

01:41:45.000 It's that easy.

01:41:46.000 We went to a sushi place and they were like, the chair was five feet in front of us.

01:41:50.000 And they said, put the mask on.

01:41:52.000 And I was like, nobody in here is wearing any masks.

01:41:54.000 Can we just sit down?

01:41:55.000 And they said, okay, fine.

01:41:57.000 But if you get up, you got to put the mask on.

01:41:58.000 And they handed me a mask.

01:41:59.000 I said, okay.

01:42:00.000 And then some guy at the counter yelled, put the mask on.

01:42:03.000 And I said, we're going to sit down.

01:42:04.000 And they were like, no, put it on now.

01:42:06.000 And I was like, are you serious?

01:42:08.000 And they all yell yes.

01:42:09.000 And I'm like, I'm leaving.

01:42:09.000 I bet they thought you were a fad that was about to find them if they let you walk in without your mask.

01:42:14.000 Nobody was wearing masks though.

01:42:16.000 But they probably made them all wear one from the door to the table. 1.00

01:42:18.000 That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 0.99

01:42:20.000 So you know what we did? 1.00

01:42:20.000 You're like a secret shopper. 1.00

01:42:21.000 We drove only a few minutes because it was a border county.

01:42:24.000 We're only a few minutes from the edge of the county and we got sushi no problem.

01:42:27.000 It was quite delicious at the other restaurant. 0.99

01:42:29.000 It's insane to me that they were like if you want to walk five feet you better be doing it wearing a mask because everybody knows what COVID floats in the sky and at six feet and it's It's the stupidest thing, man. 0.96

01:42:39.000 Look, I understand if they're like, a private business wants you to wear a mask, but I'll tell you this.

01:42:42.000 The government mandating vaccines or masks, in my opinion, is a violation of our right to peaceably assemble.

01:42:48.000 The Supreme Court agrees with you, I believe.

01:42:50.000 No, I don't think they've ruled on this yet, but there needs to be a lawsuit over this.

01:42:53.000 So I don't know who files it or how.

01:42:55.000 I do not live in an area with this.

01:42:56.000 Perhaps I could sue over something like that.

01:42:58.000 But I wonder what would happen if I got a group of 25 people That said, we're going to be organizing a Black Lives Matter protest in this public location that is open to all members of the public.

01:43:09.000 And when they say, sorry, you have to leave, I'll say why.

01:43:12.000 And when they say the government is requiring that we check everyone for vaccination status, I say, aha! 0.68

01:43:16.000 The government can't deny our right to peaceably assemble under 1A.

01:43:19.000 And then we sue and say, the government doesn't have the right.

01:43:23.000 To bar your rights, to take away your rights through pressuring private organizations.

01:43:27.000 The Supreme Court's actually ruled that.

01:43:29.000 So I'm wondering when someone's going to file a 1A argument that our right to assemble has been shut down by the government, forcing people to kick you out.

01:43:38.000 So look, it's quite simple.

01:43:40.000 If Burger King wants my business, But the employees there are like, I'm sorry man, the government's making me do it.

01:43:45.000 That's all I need here.

01:43:46.000 And that's exactly what they've been saying.

01:43:48.000 I called 25 or so restaurants and almost all of them said the same thing.

01:43:53.000 I'm sorry, the government is making us do this.

01:43:55.000 Alright then.

01:43:56.000 That is the government violating our First Amendment rights to peaceably assemble.

01:44:01.000 Somebody should sue them.

01:44:03.000 All right.

01:44:04.000 Dusty says, I plan on going and doing some journalism.

01:44:07.000 Instead, let me know if you want my footage.

01:44:08.000 Are you talking about in D.C.

01:44:10.000 for that protest?

01:44:12.000 I don't know.

01:44:13.000 I think we have to go through, it's very strict with how we have to run things.

01:44:17.000 This is one thing a lot of people need to understand, too.

01:44:18.000 When you're running a business, there's a lot of restrictions.

01:44:21.000 I mean, I'm sure you deal with this stuff, too.

01:44:23.000 I've had people, they assume that if you have a company, you can just give someone money.

01:44:27.000 So I was arguing with this leftist who was like, I challenge these leftists when they're like, when they criticize reporting or they try and act like areas are safe.

01:44:37.000 Like Conan O'Brien went to Haiti and said, it was beautiful and great.

01:44:39.000 So when I see that and I'm tweeting with somebody, I'll be like, I'll tell you what, you go and cover this story for me and I'll pick the location.

01:44:45.000 How does that sound?

01:44:46.000 And they say, yes.

01:44:47.000 So I challenged this guy, I said, here's what we're gonna do.

01:44:49.000 Legitimately, I will cover your costs, everything, and even pay you to go and cover gang rivalries in Chicago.

01:44:56.000 We actually, it would be great to see how COVID has affected these more dangerous areas of Chicago, and we'll have you do it.

01:45:04.000 And it's not even about, look, I think this person won't be able to pull it off, but if they're brave enough, they're confident, they think it's safe, that's exactly the kind of person you want to go do the reporting.

01:45:12.000 They won't do it though.

01:45:14.000 They always say no, but I had one guy who was like, nope, just give me the money so I can go travel wherever I want.

01:45:18.000 And I try explaining to him, you can't legally, as a business, just give someone money for no reason.

01:45:24.000 They don't seem to understand this.

01:45:25.000 They think, if you own the company, you can just write someone a check and hand it to them.

01:45:29.000 I'm like, you can't.

01:45:31.000 Like, you are opening yourself up for audit because people try... It's crazy to me that it's people on the left doing this.

01:45:38.000 They're the ones complaining about loopholes where family members will funnel money to family members. 0.73

01:45:42.000 It's exactly why you can't do that.

01:45:44.000 When we're hiring people, we're required to have, like, a breakdown of, like, what the person's job is and why we hired them.

01:45:49.000 And we've gone through all of this stuff.

01:45:51.000 Otherwise, you open yourself up to audit.

01:45:53.000 I wonder if many of these young people on the left started a business, it would really change their perspective on, you know, who to vote for, to be honest.

01:46:01.000 All right, all right.

01:46:03.000 Bernie Katsuroi says, Tim, what about John Sullivan, who was a BLM agitator and also was there at the Capitol leading those inside?

01:46:11.000 He was put on house arrest and still free.

01:46:13.000 Yeah, what happened to that guy?

01:46:14.000 Well, he's an interesting case.

01:46:17.000 He's also featured in the Revolver article.

01:46:20.000 He was a sensation, part of the narrative early on, and a lot of people on the right like to point to him and say, Oh, it was actually Antifa.

01:46:29.000 That was before we basically changed the narrative to look at Fed versus Antifa.

01:46:34.000 And I think in the case of Sullivan, that's also consistent with Fed versus Antifa.

01:46:40.000 And, you know, I'm definitely not a fan of Antifa.

01:46:43.000 I think in some larger sense, Antifa is a paramilitary force of the regime, but it's also a law-breaking organization and they also have concerns about Fed infiltration.

01:46:55.000 And John Sullivan was actually, if you look at various Antifa blogs and so forth, the Antifa people basically banished him because of their concerns that he was actually a fed.

01:47:07.000 So I think the actual explanation is people are saying, oh, he's Antifa.

01:47:12.000 No, he's not Antifa.

01:47:13.000 He's probably, you know, something else and Antifa itself had similar concerns.

01:47:19.000 There you go.

01:47:22.000 I guess when it came to Antifa, he would try and incite.

01:47:25.000 Exactly.

01:47:25.000 And they were like, get him out of here.

01:47:26.000 What is he doing?

01:47:27.000 And his brother is like some, you know, right-wing equivalent.

01:47:31.000 It's a very bizarre family that is connected to intelligence and so forth.

01:47:36.000 You know, uh, just to go completely off the rails and saying, I was thinking how funny it was that I saw this image of, um, what is it a puffin?

01:47:44.000 There's, there's, there's little birds and there's, uh, a fake bird that in Iceland.

01:47:50.000 Oh yeah, puffins.

01:47:51.000 Yeah, they put a fake one up and then the puffins come and land thinking it's a real bird.

01:47:56.000 And so they're not lonely and they'll hang out with the decoy or whatever.

01:47:59.000 Then there's also decoy ducks where it attracts the duck.

01:48:01.000 They see this.

01:48:02.000 They don't realize it's not a real duck.

01:48:04.000 I'm like, wouldn't it be funny if aliens put decoy people here to like coax us into doing things and we can't tell the difference because it's the technology beyond us.

01:48:12.000 And so you end up with these really weird people you can't understand that kind of just appear and do weird things.

01:48:17.000 I'm not saying it's true.

01:48:18.000 I'm saying it's off the rails, but it's fun to think about.

01:48:22.000 Omega says, Tim, you owe me an apology.

01:48:24.000 You said I was wrong about the left and right, and now you are using the same point I brought up over a week ago.

01:48:29.000 Yes, I owe you an apology.

01:48:31.000 I think I remember your comment, and perhaps you are correct, and I just did not realize.

01:48:36.000 The classical left and right was anti-establishment and pro-establishment, and the modern left today has been pro-establishment for the entire Trump administration.

01:48:47.000 Trump was the bull in the China shop.

01:48:49.000 And I was like, all right, fine, whatever, I'll take it.

01:48:51.000 I didn't vote for him in 2016.

01:48:52.000 And as I've stated the other day, Trump is now a bull on fire trying to break back in. 0.95

01:48:58.000 Right, just going crazy and enraged.

01:49:00.000 and uh... that is not the establishment there's no one obama got into power seem like that all the

01:49:05.000 warmongers that coaxed bush over there were like yeah let's keep it going

01:49:09.000 so they don't care what side i don't like everyone let's move obama walked in

01:49:13.000 and he's like now that i'm uh... president

01:49:15.000 uh...

01:49:16.000 i'm gonna change things And then they were like, no, actually, you're going to blow up kids.

01:49:19.000 And he went, OK.

01:49:21.000 And then he did.

01:49:22.000 I think it was like a few days after he got his first inauguration, he authorized a drone strike, killing a bunch of women and children.

01:49:29.000 That was the day he became president.

01:49:31.000 That's right.

01:49:31.000 It's like what they said about Trump.

01:49:32.000 It's like, he strikes Syria. 0.63

01:49:34.000 And all of a sudden, all the bad coverage suspends for a second.

01:49:37.000 They say, now he's president.

01:49:39.000 They give Nobel Peace Prizes to people like that, too.

01:49:41.000 You bow to Raytheon.

01:49:43.000 That's when you're president.

01:49:44.000 You twerk for Raytheon.

01:49:46.000 I love how they gave Obama a peace prize for not doing anything.

01:49:48.000 Like, what is this?

01:49:51.000 Man, the mask came off, the emperor has no clothes, all that stuff.

01:49:54.000 The past few years have really shown the establishment, the regime, the cathedral, whatever, to just be a barren wasteland.

01:50:02.000 They have nothing to offer.

01:50:03.000 Yeah, and let's be honest, Obama was talking a good game.

01:50:06.000 He was talking about ending the wars, ending the surveillance state, holding people accountable, you know, making sure we protect civil rights and people's personal liberties, and then he did the complete opposite of that.

01:50:19.000 Riley says, today my boss said we have to wear masks again.

01:50:22.000 I said, I will not wear one in front of everyone.

01:50:24.000 He said, he's just relaying the message.

01:50:25.000 I guess I'm fine.

01:50:26.000 Yeah, I love that.

01:50:27.000 A lot of people have pointed out that their companies come to them and say, okay, mask mandates are back.

01:50:31.000 And they go, no.

01:50:32.000 And the boss goes, all right, whatever.

01:50:33.000 Yeah.

01:50:34.000 Like we tried.

01:50:35.000 If they won't comply, we can't shut down.

01:50:37.000 I mean, look how crazy it's getting that it wasn't in California.

01:50:39.000 They're having COVID sick nurses in Seattle and Seattle.

01:50:43.000 Right.

01:50:43.000 Come on, man.

01:50:45.000 Well, because they don't want to shut down.

01:50:46.000 Yeah, they can't.

01:50:47.000 It's what Mike Rose said, that the bombs were dropping on London and eventually people just came out of their basements like, well, what are we supposed to do?

01:50:53.000 And they just lived with it.

01:50:56.000 Alright, what does that say?

01:50:57.000 Jolin says, I plan to ask Tim to host Darren Beattie ASAP.

01:51:01.000 After work, I turned on TimCast IRL and Lord have mercy, it's Darren Beattie!

01:51:06.000 Tim, would you mind asking Darren about the late Bill Cooper and why he was assassinated?

01:51:10.000 Who was Bill Cooper and was he assassinated?

01:51:12.000 Behold the Pale Horse?

01:51:13.000 I don't know.

01:51:15.000 Did you guys ever hear about Behold the Pale Horse?

01:51:17.000 I've heard of that.

01:51:17.000 What's that?

01:51:18.000 Well, it's a famous conspiracy book.

01:51:20.000 William Cooper was Navy intelligence and he had some very interesting theories.

01:51:25.000 His book was very fascinating to read personally.

01:51:29.000 I read it before and yeah, there's a lot of crazy information surrounding Bill Cooper.

01:51:36.000 Interesting.

01:51:37.000 Is he going hard on 9-11?

01:51:38.000 Because he died two months after that.

01:51:40.000 Yes.

01:51:40.000 Really?

01:51:41.000 Yeah, he died November 01.

01:51:42.000 Well, there's people saying that he predicted 9-11, but again, there's a lot of different theories out there.

01:51:50.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:51:51.000 says, Darren with a mic drop on NewsGuard.

01:51:54.000 Yeah, pointing out The Economist doesn't have bylines was a real smack.

01:51:59.000 Yeah, I've actually emailed NewsGuard numerous times, just like, because there's certain points where I'm like, I'll use them, because like I said, it's like a shield, it's like, hey man, don't get mad at me, I'm using NewsGuard certified sources.

01:52:10.000 Even The Guardian backed up Joe Rogan's claim on myocarditis, and I think that's how you can get through the manipulation.

01:52:16.000 But there have been so many stories, like one very important one was that BuzzFeed wrote a fake story claiming two black men got into a fight over the death for a fried chicken sandwich.

01:52:27.000 It was when the Popeye's chicken sandwich thing happened.

01:52:30.000 And BuzzFeed wrote an article saying that a man shot another man over a fried chicken sandwich.

01:52:34.000 And I reached out to the editor-in-chief at the time, and I said, not only is this story overtly false, Don't you think it's a little racist to make up something like this?

01:52:43.000 And he was like, well, I don't know.

01:52:44.000 Seems fine to me.

01:52:46.000 And I was like, wow!

01:52:47.000 So I emailed NewsGuard and I'm like, how is it that Project Veritas puts out a video and you say it's fake news and BuzzFeed literally writes verifiably fake news you can fact check and you guys don't care?

01:52:59.000 And they gave me no response.

01:53:01.000 The story actually was a guy was at Popeye's and someone cut in line.

01:53:06.000 An altercation broke out when he walked outside.

01:53:08.000 I guess the other guy stabbed him and ran.

01:53:09.000 They weren't fighting over a chicken sandwich.

01:53:11.000 It was just an argument that escalated.

01:53:15.000 And so the dude, uh, like the cousin of the guy who died came out and put up, put a video online saying, stop pushing these lies, man.

01:53:22.000 My, my, my family was not fighting for fried chicken.

01:53:25.000 What the, what the hell, man?

01:53:27.000 We weren't fighting for fried chicken, we were fighting for something much more important, which was someone cut in line.

01:53:31.000 I bet Popeye's paid for that story.

01:53:33.000 The dude who died wasn't even the one who started the fight, apparently.

01:53:39.000 Some guy cut him in line, he said, yo man, you can't cut me in line, so the other guy just stabs him.

01:53:45.000 And so I'm like, how brutal to be a regular dude just trying to go to a Popeye's.

01:53:51.000 I mean, they got shrimp there too.

01:53:52.000 And then to be besmirched by all these news outlets because they wanted a racist story.

01:53:57.000 And then these people at Buzzfeed have the nerve to call us and other people racist or alt-right, whatever. 0.99

01:54:01.000 I can't stand these scumbag, you know, left elites who think they're better than everyone. 0.99

01:54:07.000 And they say they're the anti-racist and they do stuff like that. 1.00

01:54:10.000 And the editor-in-chief doesn't do anything about it.

01:54:12.000 When you said that they backed up Rogan's claim on the myocarditis, is that YouTube-friendly talking content you want to... I mean, I did a whole video on it.

01:54:19.000 Oh, today you did.

01:54:19.000 The Guardian published a story that said, a study suggests myocarditis risk from vaccines is greater than that of COVID.

01:54:26.000 Joe Rogan referenced that on his podcast.

01:54:28.000 Josh Zepp said he was wrong.

01:54:30.000 They pulled up a source that didn't confirm what Joe said, and Joe didn't have an answer for it.

01:54:34.000 Okay.

01:54:35.000 And I'll say this to Joe.

01:54:36.000 I got a keyboard right here in front of me.

01:54:38.000 So not only does Ian have his own computer and Luke, but I actually can pull up information that I'm familiar with.

01:54:44.000 See, Joe doesn't have that.

01:54:45.000 He has Jamie.

01:54:46.000 Right.

01:54:47.000 So often what'll happen is Joe will be like, hey, pull up that source, and then Jamie might pull up whatever the first source he finds, and it's not necessarily the one that Joe was talking about.

01:54:55.000 So Joe came out later on Twitter and posted the Guardian article and a subsequent study from Oxford backing up his claim.

01:55:05.000 And I said, this is the problem with alternative facts.

01:55:07.000 Joe is not wrong when he says, this thing has happened because the Guardian reported it.

01:55:13.000 Josh was not wrong when he said, actually, this is true because he had a source he read as well.

01:55:18.000 This is the problem with the ever-changing landscape of news media, that people will read something in the news, know, like, I read this, I read this from a credible source, and you can read the exact opposite thing a day later.

01:55:28.000 So then people just fight with each other, and I don't know how you solve for that problem, to be honest.

01:55:32.000 Maybe we all just have no choice but to ask Bill Gates what the answers are and just believe him to whatever he says.

01:55:38.000 And Michael Hayden.

01:55:39.000 Michael Hayden has veto power.

01:55:41.000 Particularly Michael Hayden.

01:55:42.000 James Clapper too.

01:55:44.000 George Soros?

01:55:45.000 He knows everything.

01:55:46.000 I'm not gonna look at the sky.

01:55:47.000 Michael, just tell me what color it is.

01:55:49.000 It's green!

01:55:50.000 Alright, confirmed.

01:55:53.000 Alright, where are we at?

01:55:54.000 Let's see if we got some super chats.

01:55:57.000 We'll move down.

01:56:00.000 Boop boop. 1.00

01:56:00.000 Let's see what we can get. 1.00

01:56:03.000 Lone Wolf says, question, if I can smell a fart through the mask, does that mean the mask is working?

01:56:07.000 I tried three, still smelled it.

01:56:08.000 Sounds like it's working.

01:56:10.000 I don't know.

01:56:11.000 Those are Socrates-like questions.

01:56:14.000 But I will tell you, hold on. 0.92

01:56:16.000 If you are wearing even a thin piece of cloth on your butt, and you get the Hershey squirts, it will stop a whole lot of it. 0.92

01:56:23.000 Okay, the droplets. 0.94

01:56:24.000 Of the droplets, that's right.

01:56:26.000 The droplets.

01:56:27.000 Mud butt.

01:56:28.000 The droplets! 0.81

01:56:29.000 Mud butt.

01:56:30.000 There was a really funny story, we're gonna get gross, but there's a really funny story that's like a classic Reddit post where a guy was like talking about how he was running down the hall in the middle of the night after eating Taco Bell or something. 0.73

01:56:40.000 You get the point of the story.

01:56:41.000 But it was like one of the all-time posts on Reddit.

01:56:45.000 How does it go?

01:56:47.000 Do you want to share it?

01:56:48.000 No, but I think you understand where the story's going.

01:56:50.000 I ate too much Taco Bell, woke up in the middle of the night, and long story short, the underwear actually ripped.

01:56:56.000 Oh my gosh!

01:56:57.000 There we go, that's what I was looking for.

01:57:02.000 Welcome to the grossest part of the show.

01:57:03.000 Hey, it's Friday night!

01:57:04.000 We're having a good time, huh, everybody?

01:57:06.000 After hours.

01:57:06.000 Holy crap, that's the first I've ever heard of that ever happening to someone.

01:57:11.000 Sir John says, I would love to hear a roundtable with the who's who to brainstorm how an entity would keep free speech and not draw excessive lawsuits over all the things people will be offended about. 0.86

01:57:21.000 You can't, well, you can sue a ham sandwich, doesn't mean you're gonna win.

01:57:24.000 Section 230 protects them.

01:57:26.000 Twitter is absolutely able to keep people on the platform, they just don't want to. 0.95

01:57:30.000 Because they're hypocrites and they're... Well, look, man, this is the problem with the right. 0.84

01:57:35.000 Conservatives and libertarians did not get jobs at these companies and thus they were taken over by leftists who do leftist things. 0.97

01:57:42.000 I did do a segment, did do, on my TimCast news channel talking about how low testosterone is likely the cause of all of our problems.

01:57:52.000 And it's that there was a study that came out from the New York Times talking about how women favor banning hate speech and men favor free speech.

01:57:59.000 I think this is in line with the fact that men are more likely to take risks, women are more likely to be risk-averse.

01:58:04.000 That being said, with the decline in testosterone and men becoming more feminine and less masculine, we're getting an imbalance where there's too much of a toxic feminine presence in government and not enough of a strong masculine presence balancing out I personally feel like you need a matriarch and a patriarch. 1.00

01:58:21.000 You need a good female, like, assessment of the risks and to pull back and tell the guy, like, that's crazy, don't do that. 1.00

01:58:28.000 But then you also need a guy who's gonna be like, nah, I'm gonna jump off this cliff with a parachute, we're gonna make it happen.

01:58:32.000 That is not to say that all women hate risk and all men like risk, it's just generalities.

01:58:37.000 But when you get an overwhelmingly feminist system, because men are becoming weaker and weaker with low testosterone, Then it stands to reason you're going to get banning of hate speech, you're going to get authoritarianism, you're going to get all of these things. 1.00

01:58:47.000 I think Jordan Peterson talks about this too.

01:58:49.000 Motherly-like policies.

01:58:50.000 The longhouse.

01:58:51.000 The longhouse.

01:58:52.000 What is that?

01:58:52.000 Basically just the matriarchy of societies that had these longhouses where the women would basically just dictate all conversation.

01:59:04.000 Everything's mediated through the social reality and it's not its truth value not its connection with first-order

01:59:11.000 reality it's the social reality determines everything and

01:59:14.000 social harmony determines everything and therefore Conformity and consensus are dispositive. That's

01:59:22.000 interesting hunter-gatherers where the men would go hunt It was not about what they thought reality was it was the

01:59:27.000 bull is charging right run and the women would be at home Talking about the men and how they want things to be and 0.96

01:59:33.000 then so you think that has been Taken over our society as we're more talking about it

01:59:38.000 There's an interesting thing they mention is that more masculine societies tend to be more war-like.

01:59:45.000 There's a pacifying effect to having more women involved in government, but there's an imbalance. 1.00

01:59:50.000 When you have the right amount of men and women, you get less war and more stability, but still a balance of people's freedoms and rights.

01:59:58.000 But when it becomes more feminine, this actually occurs in a lot of revolutions that tend towards the left.

02:00:04.000 Like China. 0.94

02:00:05.000 with internal conflict authoritarianism, which just makes the quality of life go

02:00:09.000 down. Like China, with their one-child policy that has overwhelmingly too many 1.00

02:00:13.000 males. So interestingly, I was reading about the Bolshevik Revolution. Women 0.55

02:00:18.000 were kept out because they were considered to be very conservative

02:00:20.000 because they did not want to be a part of the revolution.

02:00:23.000 They said we want to be safe, there's no point in striking or protesting.

02:00:27.000 It's too risky for our families.

02:00:29.000 And it wasn't until the food stores were getting depleted that women actually came out and protested. 0.86

02:00:33.000 Similarly with the French Revolution.

02:00:35.000 So you see there's an internal conflict when there's an imbalance.

02:00:39.000 But to be fair, a lack of food causes imbalance.

02:00:41.000 I don't think it's necessarily anything to do with men or women.

02:00:43.000 I just think right now what's happening is, we've known this for decades, testosterone is going down, men are, like, masculinity is on the decline, it's also being demonized, and then we're getting the rise of authoritarianism, and I think that makes sense.

02:00:54.000 We need a good, healthy...

02:00:57.000 Feminine type of authoritarianism it's right and I think it gets safe it gets to the point that we're talking about the distinction between First-order reality and reality as perceived through the social system we're talking about the function of media and we're in a basically a media run state in in certain ways the media creating that reality is fundamentally a kind of a feminine mechanism, that everything's filtered through 0.98

02:01:27.000 this kind of manipulative social control rather than just kind of interacting directly with reality

02:01:34.000 and seeing what reality reports back.

02:01:38.000 All right.

02:01:39.000 Stachowski says, Tim, it's funny you talked about CIA taking over watching big companies.

02:01:44.000 Some people would say you follow under that guideline.

02:01:46.000 Who's your CIA agent?

02:01:48.000 Ha! 0.89

02:01:49.000 Very funny, guys.

02:01:51.000 There is no CIA agent.

02:01:53.000 But let me tell you something for real.

02:01:54.000 Let's be real.

02:01:55.000 We're no longer in the era where there needs to be a handler for the manipulation of media.

02:02:00.000 If YouTube decides that we do the right kind of media, they'll prop us up.

02:02:06.000 What you need to understand about how media manipulation works, and has probably always worked, these companies in New York don't take a journalist and then say, we want you to report propaganda for the left.

02:02:16.000 They find people who are overtly leftist activists and then say, want to be a journalist?

02:02:21.000 Bring them in and say, write whatever you want.

02:02:24.000 That's what they do.

02:02:24.000 Impact.

02:02:25.000 So if you think this show is, you know, like we're CIA agents, haha, it could actually just be that we do the kind of show that they want us to do.

02:02:36.000 And so that's why we're not getting banned.

02:02:38.000 That's why we're on YouTube.

02:02:39.000 That's why we're getting views.

02:02:41.000 Because they've just decided behind the scenes.

02:02:44.000 We don't need to have contact with them.

02:02:46.000 I pointed this out before, too.

02:02:47.000 I can't remember who we had on the show, and I was just like, I don't know what's going on, but they certainly tolerate what I do because we're making a lot of money, we're growing and expanding.

02:02:55.000 So I don't know what it is, the goal of Google and the establishment is.

02:02:58.000 Maybe they're not as powerful as we think, or they like what we're doing for some reason.

02:03:03.000 I looked on Twitter and I saw you're trending under entertainment.

02:03:06.000 I know, not under politics.

02:03:07.000 Yep.

02:03:08.000 And I've been trending for that's good on and off for like two months, nonstop.

02:03:13.000 To me, that's a win from joining Timcast, the Timcast organization.

02:03:17.000 Oh, sorry.

02:03:17.000 My, my audio is going to cut in and out to see us trending as an enter to see you trending as an entertainment icon instead of a politics icon is key.

02:03:24.000 Because the CIA, they go after the politics people if they're going to go after anybody.

02:03:28.000 The entertainers are here to calm people down.

02:03:31.000 What I was told by some people who work at Google is that there's a lot of people who are actually fans of the show who work there.

02:03:37.000 Interesting.

02:03:38.000 And so they actually play some kind of speed bump to the overt far-left attempts at coming at the show.

02:03:44.000 I think the same with the CIA too.

02:03:46.000 I bet there's a lot of people there that are super cool and like, this is crazy, this world, we need a better system.

02:03:50.000 But it but it only is only defensible insofar as you're not overtly publicly demonized.

02:03:57.000 So there's probably a lot of people at YouTube who are fans of Crowder, but it's becoming increasingly hard for them to speak up in his defense because the media attacks and attacks and attacks anything with Alex Jones.

02:04:06.000 So it's only a matter of time for us in my opinion, especially in 2022 with an election year.

02:04:10.000 But anyway, it's Friday night, my friends.

02:04:12.000 We've got a lot of work to do and a lot of fun to be had.

02:04:13.000 I'm gonna go crack some champagne and celebrate the decline of CNN's ratings.

02:04:17.000 So make sure you subscribe to this channel, smash that like button, follow us on Instagram at TimCastIRL.

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02:04:24.000 Darren, you want to shout anything out?

02:04:25.000 Yeah, follow me at revolver.news to see all this reporting, read it, and share it with people to challenge them.

02:04:32.000 What do you think about January 6th?

02:04:33.000 And follow me on Twitter at Darren J. Beattie.

02:04:36.000 D-A-R-R-E-N-J-B-E-A-T-T-I-E. 1.00

02:04:40.000 Darren, thank you so much for coming.

02:04:41.000 Shouts out to everyone in the comment section that's calling me Blook.

02:04:45.000 Apparently there was a white balance issue with my camera.

02:04:50.000 And no, I did not take the jab.

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02:05:06.000 Thank you so much for having me.

02:05:08.000 And today was really fun.

02:05:09.000 Appreciate you guys.

02:05:10.000 Love you guys.

02:05:10.000 Thank you so much for coming.

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02:05:16.000 And we'll see you next time.

02:05:18.000 I'm really enjoying Blook myself.

02:05:19.000 And I do think that cracking a bottle of Trump champagne is probably the single best possible way to celebrate CNN going down the tubes.

02:05:29.000 And you guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patchlets.

02:05:32.000 I just want to point this out too.

02:05:33.000 When we were over the holidays, I was hanging out with friends and family.

02:05:37.000 We actually had Trump wine and Trump champagne and we thought it was funny.

02:05:40.000 And so we bring the Trump wine to a family gathering and everyone has a laugh.

02:05:44.000 They're like, I Trump wine.

02:05:46.000 And it was, they loved it.

02:05:48.000 They, the whole bottle was gone in a few minutes.

02:05:50.000 So then we cracked open Trump champagne.

02:05:53.000 You know, when we came back, we brought some with us.

02:05:55.000 It was delicious.

02:05:56.000 I'm not a big drinker.

02:05:57.000 And then we got another bottle of champagne.

02:05:59.000 Didn't like it.

02:06:00.000 I was like, wow.

02:06:01.000 Like, I actually like the Trump champagne.

02:06:03.000 I hear good things.

02:06:04.000 But I'll leave it there.

02:06:05.000 With that being said, that free, that free shout out for Trump champagne.

02:06:08.000 Thanks for hanging out, everybody.

02:06:09.000 Friday night.

02:06:09.000 Hope you enjoy the weekend.

02:06:10.000 We will see you all.

02:06:12.000 We're going to be putting up on Sunday, the Sunday Uncensored episode.

02:06:15.000 So you can listen to those on iTunes and Spotify.

02:06:17.000 But don't forget, we got a massive library of uncensored content at timcast.com.

02:06:21.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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