Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Biden Activates Military Reserve To Deploy To Europe Over Ukraine War w-Tim Ballard

00:00:00.000 We got major breaking news.

00:00:23.000 Joe Biden has called up U.S.

00:00:25.000 military reserves, the Selective Reserves and the Ready Reserves.

00:00:28.000 It's a big deal for deployment to Europe over the war in Ukraine.

00:00:32.000 We don't exactly know what that means other than people are quite worried that two different

00:00:38.000 reserve groups are being called up for deployment into Europe.

00:00:44.000 I don't know if this means we should be prepared for war, but certainly it's a very big deal.

00:00:49.000 So we'll definitely be talking about that.

00:00:50.000 We've got some other big news that may or may not come up.

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00:01:02.000 This is huge!

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00:01:14.000 Instagram sort of does, but for most people it doesn't really work.

00:01:16.000 But most importantly, what we're going to be talking about quite a bit today is the film Sound of Freedom.

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00:02:46.000 I got it!

00:02:47.000 You nailed it!

00:02:48.000 I was like, in my head, trying to make sure I could get it.

00:02:50.000 Very few get this.

00:02:52.000 Very good, man.

00:02:53.000 You're better than me.

00:02:54.000 Better than I, sir.

00:02:55.000 Tim!

00:02:55.000 Yes, sir?

00:02:56.000 I think everybody knows who you are.

00:02:57.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:02:58.000 Yeah.

00:02:58.000 Thanks so much for having us on the show.

00:03:01.000 So I'm the subject of Sound of Freedom.

00:03:05.000 I spent 12 years as a special agent undercover operator for the U.S.

00:03:09.000 government.

00:03:10.000 10 of those years on the border, you see that there's an important scene in Sound of Freedom where a little kid is rescued at the border.

00:03:16.000 True story.

00:03:17.000 But it kind of kicks off the rest of the narrative, right?

00:03:21.000 And then, you know, in 2012, 2013, I started discovering something.

00:03:25.000 Well, let me go back to 2006.

00:03:26.000 In 2006, the laws changed in the United States.

00:03:29.000 With the passage of something called the Adam Walsh Child Protect Act.

00:03:32.000 What it did was it allowed U.S.

00:03:34.000 agents for the first time to go overseas and we could, if we found Americans engaging in sex with kids, we could hold them accountable as if they'd committed that sex crime in the U.S.

00:03:44.000 So that kind of opened up like international operations and about that time I went to undercover school and they sent me in. 0.76

00:03:50.000 I'd play the role of a pedophile, a purveyor of child sex, trafficker, whatever. 0.58

00:03:54.000 And we'd go in. 0.99

00:03:56.000 But what happened though, the U.S.

00:03:58.000 government didn't mean to do this, but they kind of tortured me because, you know, here's the problem.

00:04:04.000 Child trafficking knows no borders and boundaries, but bureaucracies do.

00:04:08.000 And so if I'm down there and I find a kid, I don't care what nationality, I don't care what anything, it's a kid, a kid's a kid.

00:04:16.000 But the laws in the U.S. 0.95

00:04:18.000 needed me to find the American.

00:04:20.000 Wow.

00:04:20.000 And so I'd be like, guys, let me finish the case and then we'll find the Americans later.

00:04:24.000 Nope.

00:04:24.000 That's too creative for a bureaucracy.

00:04:26.000 Come home.

00:04:27.000 Several times this happened, it's breaking my heart, and in 2013, I was actually working two cases.

00:04:34.000 One in Haiti, crazy story, this little boy named Gardi Marti, U.S.

00:04:38.000 citizen of Haitian descent, two years old, the family moves him back to Haiti.

00:04:42.000 He is kidnapped out of the church where his father's the pastor.

00:04:46.000 Oh my gosh.

00:04:47.000 Kidnapped, trafficked.

00:04:49.000 I learned about this story.

00:04:49.000 I meet the father.

00:04:51.000 I'm thinking, this is a US citizen.

00:04:52.000 I can go find this kid.

00:04:54.000 He was born in Utah and I had been transferred to Utah recently at that point.

00:04:58.000 So I'm working this case.

00:04:59.000 I'm told, come home.

00:05:02.000 This is a Haitian crime. 1.00

00:05:03.000 But I promised the father!

00:05:04.000 Wow.

00:05:05.000 I promised the father I would never stop!

00:05:08.000 At the same time, I'm down in Colombia, and this is the part you see in Sound of Freedom, consulting, and I was given permission, if you listen to the film it's accurate, I was given permission to consult.

00:05:19.000 You know?

00:05:20.000 And as you see in the film, I went beyond that.

00:05:22.000 And then, so then they said, hey, where's the American?

00:05:25.000 Where's the leads?

00:05:25.000 I said, I feel it, it's here.

00:05:27.000 Come home.

00:05:28.000 So that was two in 2013 and I called my wife and I was like, what do I do?

00:05:33.000 Like my heart is breaking.

00:05:34.000 Like these kids will be rescued.

00:05:36.000 These kids will be rescued.

00:05:38.000 But if I leave, I mean, I'm the bait.

00:05:39.000 You know, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the point on this case.

00:05:43.000 And, um, and, and she, you see in the movie, right?

00:05:48.000 Where, is this okay?

00:05:49.000 I'm just going?

00:05:49.000 Yes.

00:05:52.000 But in the movie, Mira Cervino, who plays my wife, Academy Award winning, amazing actress, and it's one of my favorite lines in the film because it's so powerful.

00:06:03.000 It's much more powerful in real life.

00:06:04.000 But she says, just quit your job and rescue those kids, right?

00:06:09.000 And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna do it.

00:06:10.000 But that's not what really happened.

00:06:12.000 Okay, Eduardo and the team didn't want me to show the true cowardice that I actually manifested at this time in late 2013 because it was my idea.

00:06:22.000 I said, well, Catherine, if I come home, you know, it's over.

00:06:27.000 But I keep my job.

00:06:28.000 I have to quit my job to do this.

00:06:30.000 I talked to, I mean, I was calling the DHS, like, ethics office.

00:06:35.000 Can I do both?

00:06:35.000 Like, no, you can't do both.

00:06:37.000 You can't moonlight.

00:06:38.000 You got to quit, you know, or do the case. 0.70

00:06:42.000 And she said, and so her line was supposed to be, Well, get your butt home because we got six kids and we have no money. 1.00

00:06:50.000 We have a couple thousand stocked away in the bank or something. 0.70

00:06:56.000 And she didn't say that.

00:06:59.000 She didn't say that.

00:07:00.000 She said, could you save the kids if you stayed there?

00:07:02.000 I said, yes.

00:07:03.000 Yes.

00:07:03.000 She's like, why?

00:07:04.000 It was almost like embarrassing.

00:07:06.000 Like, why are you even asking me this question?

00:07:08.000 Wow.

00:07:08.000 She said, we have a meeting with our maker.

00:07:11.000 We will be dead in 50 years anyway.

00:07:13.000 And she said, I don't care if we live in a tent.

00:07:15.000 These are exactly her words.

00:07:16.000 I don't care if we're in a tent!

00:07:20.000 Because we lose our house.

00:07:21.000 You have to do this.

00:07:22.000 You have to try. 0.99

00:07:23.000 And I fought back like a coward. 0.97

00:07:25.000 Like, are you kidding me?

00:07:26.000 What about my own kids?

00:07:27.000 I gotta take care of my own six kids. 1.00

00:07:29.000 Like, they'll be fine.

00:07:31.000 She finally got to the point where she just gave it to me in one line.

00:07:35.000 That didn't make it in the movie because, again, it would have manifested my cowardice.

00:07:39.000 But one line that, this is verbatim, it ended the debate.

00:07:42.000 It shook me to my core because she's usually very sweet. 0.78

00:07:46.000 And she said, and this is a quote, I will not let you jeopardize my salvation by not doing this.

00:07:53.000 And I remember my whole body just kind of shook.

00:07:54.000 I was just like, Oh my gosh.

00:07:57.000 Oh my gosh.

00:07:57.000 That is an incredible woman.

00:08:00.000 There is so much.

00:08:01.000 We were already talking before the show and there's going to be more spoilers.

00:08:05.000 So, um, Somewhat conveniently, we'll talk a little bit about what's going on with Europe, which will give us a little buffer zone so I can warn everybody and say, there's going to be spoilers.

00:08:14.000 We're not going to go crazy with it, but I think we definitely need to talk about some of the elements of the film, because it was so good.

00:08:20.000 Stories like that, the feeling that I got watching this was, I could not believe it.

00:08:25.000 I thought it was just good writing.

00:08:27.000 And then you tell me, actually those were true.

00:08:30.000 So thank you for joining us.

00:08:31.000 We also have Eduardo here.

00:08:32.000 Do you want to introduce yourself as well?

00:08:33.000 Yes, I am Eduardo Verástegui.

00:08:35.000 Very grateful to be here with all of you.

00:08:37.000 Thank you so much for supporting Sound of Freedom.

00:08:39.000 Thank you so much for this interview.

00:08:42.000 And I'm the producer of the film.

00:08:45.000 Eight years of work.

00:08:46.000 Eight years of work since I met Tim Ballard.

00:08:49.000 I met him in Los Angeles, California.

00:08:51.000 Eight years of work for two hours of your time, which is what the movie lasts, and I hope this film keep touching millions of hearts.

00:08:58.000 Five million people already, can you believe it?

00:09:00.000 Unbelievable.

00:09:00.000 Five million people show up in the last ten days.

00:09:03.000 Fifty-four million dollars about so far, and we're hearing more and more theaters are starting to get packed, word of mouth is spreading.

00:09:09.000 This is, the story is that, the story you just told.

00:09:12.000 The stories in the film, this feels like more than a movie.

00:09:16.000 This is something more powerful.

00:09:18.000 I mean, I will not let you, what did you say?

00:09:20.000 Jeopardize my salvation by not doing this.

00:09:23.000 This is amazing.

00:09:25.000 Good for you.

00:09:26.000 Seriously.

00:09:26.000 Thank you guys for coming.

00:09:28.000 We're going to be, I would say for the most part, we're going to be talking all about this.

00:09:32.000 But for the time being, we got Seamus hanging out.

00:09:34.000 I'm a cartoonist and animator.

00:09:37.000 I don't do anything that impressive.

00:09:39.000 I write jokes and do comedy.

00:09:41.000 I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes, and I am really excited to be joined by both of you.

00:09:47.000 This film was incredible.

00:09:48.000 I've been recommending it to my audience and to Tim's audience non-stop.

00:09:51.000 What you've built is incredible, and Tim, the work you've done is unbelievably inspiring.

00:09:56.000 Thank you so much.

00:09:57.000 It is, man.

00:09:58.000 And that same conversation, for whatever reason, that was when I broke down the first time in that movie when she said, do it, like, go, go, you know?

00:10:05.000 I mean, it's a moment.

00:10:09.000 Let's keep moving this along, baby.

00:10:11.000 Thank you for coming, Tim.

00:10:12.000 We're gonna do like a 10-minute buffer before we get in all this footage.

00:10:15.000 Okay, let's go.

00:10:16.000 Serge Dupria!

00:10:17.000 Yes, I am Serge.com.

00:10:19.000 I'm excited to hear you guys just tell us kind of more about the story in general.

00:10:23.000 And yeah, let's just get into it.

00:10:25.000 We're going to take a quick 10 minute little buffer to give you guys some breaking news.

00:10:28.000 This is from the Post Millennial.

00:10:30.000 Biden calls up U.S.

00:10:31.000 military reserve units to deploy to active duty in Europe in Operation Atlantic Resolve.

00:10:37.000 Atlantic Resolve is the official name of the unofficial operation supporting the war in Ukraine.

00:10:42.000 That is to say, reserve military... Actually, let me just pull up the executive order we have right here from the WhiteHouse.gov.

00:10:48.000 Selected reserve and the individual ready reserve of the armed forces are being called to active duty to be deployed into Europe.

00:10:59.000 The official WhiteHouse.gov statement is by the authority vested in me as President, etc, etc, and he lists everything I hereby determine is necessary to augment the active armed force of the U.S.

00:11:07.000 for the effective conduct of Operation Atlantic Resolve in and around the United States European Command's area of responsibility.

00:11:14.000 Now, I'm not a military guy.

00:11:16.000 I don't know exactly what this means.

00:11:19.000 But it certainly sounds like we are inching closer to a major conflict related to Russia, potentially a World War III scenario. 0.58

00:11:26.000 I don't know what else to say other than, what do you guys think about it?

00:11:29.000 Do you guys have any knowledge, experience?

00:11:32.000 What do you guys think?

00:11:34.000 Yeah, I'm certainly frightened by the news.

00:11:36.000 I'm probably not the person here who has the most expertise on military and foreign policy, but I think there's real reason to be concerned.

00:11:44.000 Let's pray for this country and hope that we don't get dragged into a third world war, that this doesn't escalate into something that it doesn't need to be.

00:11:50.000 It's like, I believe that there is God.

00:11:52.000 It's like a real...

00:11:54.000 structure, something that's happening that's vibrating and causing things to form like they're happening like climatic cymatics, you see where sound can cause matter to change shape.

00:12:03.000 And that maybe we're here to talk about this movie because this war stuff is out of our hands.

00:12:08.000 We can only explain it.

00:12:10.000 Yeah.

00:12:11.000 It's a crazy time.

00:12:13.000 Yeah, I'll tell you this.

00:12:14.000 I've been in Ukraine several times last year.

00:12:18.000 So my perspective is a little different.

00:12:20.000 I actually like what Trump said about, I want people to stop dying.

00:12:24.000 Like, let's de-escalate, not escalate.

00:12:28.000 I spent time out there.

00:12:29.000 Crazy story.

00:12:30.000 Again, my wife, again, February 23rd, I think it was, last year, Russia invades Ukraine.

00:12:37.000 My wife comes up to me in tears. 1.00

00:12:38.000 Oh my gosh, you got to go to Ukraine and get those kids out. 1.00

00:12:40.000 Like, what kids?

00:12:41.000 Well, we adopt children out of Ukraine as part of one of the foundations that she runs called Children Need Families.

00:12:46.000 We had seven kids on the way out.

00:12:49.000 And she's like, go get them.

00:12:49.000 I'm like, I'll call the team.

00:12:50.000 She's like, no, you have to go.

00:12:52.000 I'm like, Catherine, like, the bombs are dropping.

00:12:54.000 Like, she's like, I know, and she's crying as she's saying it, because she's very deliberate.

00:12:58.000 So when she's irrational, it's God.

00:13:00.000 I know that's God when she's saying, and I kid you not, and he can verify this story.

00:13:05.000 Three hours later, after Catherine's telling me this, I get a phone call from Mel Gibson.

00:13:09.000 And Mel Gibson says, hey, I got these kids in Ukraine, these orphans who are, I think they're in the war zone.

00:13:14.000 Can you go get them out?

00:13:15.000 And I'm like, what?

00:13:17.000 Those signs right there.

00:13:19.000 I've always been brought up with the notion that if your wife and Mel Gibson both tell you

00:13:23.000 to do something, you know, you probably should.

00:13:25.000 You better listen, yeah.

00:13:26.000 You better listen.

00:13:27.000 Anyway, we went out there, worked with a group called Aerial Recovery, I'm on their board, amazing group.

00:13:31.000 6,000 women and children got out.

00:13:33.000 So the suffering that we saw, and by the way, I won't get into this except we found a pedophile group

00:13:38.000 that was trafficking children out of Ukraine into Mexico, into Ecuador.

00:13:43.000 Crazy case.

00:13:44.000 Tony Robbins produced a docuseries about it.

00:13:47.000 He's gonna be a producer as well, but that's a different story.

00:13:49.000 But my point is, stop de-escalating this thing.

00:13:52.000 The pain that we're seeing, the suffering that we're seeing on the ground, the part that no one remembers.

00:13:57.000 Traffickers call this harvest time.

00:14:00.000 A war, a hurricane, an earthquake, in the aftermath.

00:14:02.000 Harvest time.

00:14:03.000 How is it a 150 billion dollar business, human trafficking, how do you get that many kids into that black market?

00:14:10.000 Harvest time.

00:14:10.000 Wars.

00:14:12.000 Hurricanes, earthquakes, and it's happening and that's the least reported thing.

00:14:16.000 Kids losing their parents.

00:14:17.000 Kids losing their parents.

00:14:18.000 Displaced.

00:14:19.000 A nice van pulls up.

00:14:21.000 Hey sweetie, get in the car, we'll take care of you. 1.00

00:14:23.000 Next thing they wake up in the Caribbean.

00:14:24.000 Like in Haiti.

00:14:25.000 I mean, tell the story when you went to save this little kid.

00:14:28.000 What happened in the orphanage?

00:14:30.000 I mean, that's crazy, man, how, you know, volunteers from all over the world going to Haiti to, you know, find children that they love their parents because in one night, thousands of children lost their parents, right?

00:14:43.000 These traffickers just write, they just write orphanage on the wall.

00:14:46.000 This is, whether you think literally or figuratively, demonic.

00:14:51.000 Oh yeah.

00:14:51.000 And it is crazy to hear you're telling the story.

00:14:53.000 Here we are, you know, we're going to talk about the film and your background.

00:14:56.000 We're talking about the war.

00:14:58.000 And here you are telling the story where your wife and Mel Gibson both call you and say, go save these kids.

00:15:04.000 You know, part of me is like, I'm thinking there's a lot of people who wish they would have some kind of the purpose being laid right before them.

00:15:15.000 You have a job.

00:15:17.000 And I have to wonder, because I would imagine it's kind of scary.

00:15:20.000 But it's also a situation where you can't say no.

00:15:23.000 Exactly.

00:15:23.000 Both.

00:15:24.000 Both of those.

00:15:25.000 You know, people... I'm just as scared as anyone else going into Ukraine or going into these places.

00:15:32.000 God is real and he loves children because every time, once we're on the ground and looking and there, it goes away.

00:15:32.000 I'll say this, though.

00:15:39.000 I don't know.

00:15:40.000 I can't explain it.

00:15:40.000 It goes away.

00:15:42.000 And I'm clear-minded.

00:15:43.000 I'm not worried.

00:15:44.000 I'm not afraid to die in that moment.

00:15:46.000 Then afterwards, I come back.

00:15:47.000 I just told you I can't watch Shadow Freedom.

00:15:49.000 It triggers me.

00:15:52.000 I'm scared to get after, you know?

00:15:55.000 It's like God will bless you in the moment you're doing what he wants you to do, but then you've got to deal with it before and after.

00:16:01.000 What made you decide in the beginning to get involved rescuing kids?

00:16:08.000 Well, my first job was the CIA.

00:16:10.000 I was there through 9-11.

00:16:12.000 And when I learned about Mohammed Atta, who was a terrorist that crossed over the border of Mexico into the U.S.

00:16:18.000 and then launched his attack, I wanted to be on that border.

00:16:21.000 So I trained anti-terrorism stuff.

00:16:24.000 I have a graduate degree and a certificate in anti-terrorism.

00:16:28.000 So I got put on that border.

00:16:29.000 That's where I wanted to be.

00:16:30.000 I speak Spanish.

00:16:31.000 Six months later, they asked me to be in the group.

00:16:33.000 Child crimes.

00:16:33.000 I said no.

00:16:34.000 I said, there's no way I'm going to go in that group.

00:16:38.000 And my wife agreed with me, and then the next morning before I said no, she didn't sleep all night.

00:16:43.000 She was crying, and she said, we have to say yes.

00:16:46.000 Oh my gosh, how can we be so fearful of our own pain that we would disregard severe pain beyond our comprehension of these children?

00:16:56.000 So, geez, this is all about my wife today. 1.00

00:17:00.000 She's an amazing woman.

00:17:02.000 This woman's dragging you to heaven, man. 1.00

00:17:05.000 And I'm going kicking and screaming.

00:17:07.000 Hopefully I'm going.

00:17:09.000 If, you know, I don't know, maybe it's inappropriate to say, but if ever there was someone with some kind of divine purpose, the story that you've told already, I'm like, man, how many people just wish they knew they had that mission, whether they were fearful of it or not.

00:17:25.000 Like I said, it's probably scary, but you tell these stories and so much of it sounds unreal.

00:17:33.000 The line from your wife, the story from the... We'll get into the film story in a minute, but... Man, it really does feel like you have a purpose here that you are fulfilling.

00:17:42.000 I have to think, I think so.

00:17:44.000 I feel that.

00:17:46.000 I feel that.

00:17:47.000 Yeah, I mean, you're a humble man, and you're saying these things about the fact that you were afraid, and your wife encouraged you, and surely she did, but there are many men whose wives would say, save those children, who'd go, we're not talking about this, honey.

00:18:00.000 Absolutely not. 0.98

00:18:02.000 Yeah, that's, like I said, her script was supposed to read, get your ass home, because I got too many kids here. 1.00

00:18:08.000 What would be like, in the future, what would be your ideal outcome? 0.98

00:18:13.000 For you.

00:18:15.000 I, whatever I'm going to do, it'll be attached always to this cause.

00:18:20.000 Because once you see, it's like you can't unring a bell, right?

00:18:23.000 Once you see it, and I'm hoping people are having this experience with Sound of Freedom now, because once you see it, you cannot unsee it.

00:18:29.000 And to the depths I've gone, it would be like I could never walk away from this work, you know, in some capacity.

00:18:37.000 My undercover days are shot for sure.

00:18:39.000 That's, you know, thanks to this guy.

00:18:42.000 He ruined my undercover career.

00:18:44.000 But maybe we'll inspire many more people.

00:18:46.000 That's what we hope.

00:18:47.000 Tenfold.

00:18:48.000 Hundredfold.

00:18:50.000 I mean, outside of that, we talk about the great work you've done.

00:18:53.000 The film was masterfully done.

00:18:54.000 I thought it was one of the best films I've seen in a very, very long time.

00:18:57.000 Just in terms of the production, the pacing, the story, everything.

00:19:01.000 I think you guys nailed it.

00:19:03.000 If you take a great story and you do it wrong, the story doesn't make it.

00:19:07.000 You make a great film, you hit it out of the park, now that story, that mission, makes it somewhere.

00:19:12.000 I think people often underestimate the importance of filmmaking and making sure people feel that emotion in that story.

00:19:18.000 You know, I think for me as a producer, the number one thing that you need to have is the story.

00:19:24.000 The story is like the soul of the movie.

00:19:28.000 Without a good story, you have nothing, right?

00:19:31.000 So when I met Tim Ballard eight years ago in Los Angeles, California, I was with Alejandro Monteverde, my business partner.

00:19:37.000 He's the director of the film and he's the writer of the film as well, along with Rod.

00:19:42.000 And when we met him and he told us what he does around the world, him and his friends, his team, they travel around the world undercover rescuing children that are kidnapped for sexual exploitation.

00:19:55.000 Kids that are being abused 10 to 15 times a day for many years.

00:19:59.000 And then after that, sometimes they don't want them anymore because they're not fresh meat anymore.

00:20:07.000 That's the vocabulary that they use, right?

00:20:09.000 So, they go to this second business, which is organs traffic.

00:20:12.000 They open them and they sell their organs.

00:20:14.000 So, when you heard things like this, man, you cannot look the other way around anymore.

00:20:19.000 You have to do something.

00:20:20.000 And I remember like yesterday when Tim Ballard looked at me and he said, Eduardo, Alejandro, I know it's very sad what I'm telling you.

00:20:26.000 I know that it's very sad what I'm telling you about these children, the pain that they're going through.

00:20:30.000 But it's more sad now that you know it if you do nothing.

00:20:33.000 What are you going to do?

00:20:34.000 And I knew at that time in Alejandro as well that we had to do something.

00:20:39.000 Well, we're filmmakers.

00:20:40.000 We have a weapon of mass instruction and inspiration, right?

00:20:44.000 Well, let's make a movie because movies move people and media influence how people think.

00:20:50.000 But let me ask you a few questions first.

00:20:53.000 This is a global problem, right?

00:20:55.000 Yes, especially U.S.

00:20:56.000 and Mexico.

00:20:57.000 U.S. 0.99

00:20:57.000 is the number one consumer of child sex. 0.99

00:20:59.000 Mexico, number one provider. 0.99

00:21:02.000 Okay, okay.

00:21:03.000 Tim, you live in the most powerful country in the world.

00:21:07.000 You have the technology, the intelligence, the money, the army, the police, everything.

00:21:12.000 How come we don't finish this problem in the United States?

00:21:15.000 And he said, because it's not a priority.

00:21:17.000 It's not a priority.

00:21:18.000 We are not the solution, Eduardo.

00:21:19.000 I can be the solution for one child, for 1,000, for 3,000.

00:21:22.000 We're talking about millions of children around the world that are kidnapped for sexual exploitation.

00:21:28.000 We need a movement.

00:21:29.000 And that's when I realized, hold on a second.

00:21:32.000 A movie has the potential to start a movement.

00:21:35.000 So let's make a movie.

00:21:36.000 Tell us what's the most difficult rescue mission you've ever done in your life.

00:21:39.000 The most dangerous, the most successful one.

00:21:41.000 He said Cartagena, Colombia, the first one.

00:21:42.000 Tell me the story.

00:21:43.000 And he tells the story.

00:21:44.000 And then we ask him, what happened when the kids were rescued?

00:21:48.000 Oh man, they were crying.

00:21:49.000 There were tears in their eyes.

00:21:50.000 They were celebrating their freedom by singing.

00:21:52.000 It was like this sound of freedom.

00:21:54.000 That's the title and that's the story.

00:21:56.000 Then Alejandro, right after he started writing the script for three years, three years of Alejandro's life, and you know what happened to him?

00:22:02.000 Right before he started writing the script, man, his father and his older brother got kidnapped in Mexico and they killed him.

00:22:12.000 Alejandro Monteverde wrote Sound of Freedom with so much pain, man.

00:22:17.000 He put his soul, his blood, his suffering in that movie.

00:22:21.000 And I know when people see this movie, Sound of Freedom, they feel the pain of the kids.

00:22:27.000 They feel the sacrifice of Tim Ballard.

00:22:29.000 They feel the pain of the writer, Alejandro Monteverde.

00:22:32.000 And we are honoring his father and his son with this film, too, as well, who are in heaven, along with my father who passed away last year.

00:22:40.000 I want to jump to this right here from Box Office Mojo.

00:22:43.000 Sound of Freedom, though it's been attacked relentlessly by many in the media, it has cracked $50 million with a current domestic box office of $53,922,551, a massive success.

00:22:57.000 Through word of mouth, more and more people are starting to see this film.

00:23:00.000 It looks like the amount of gross revenue being generated is increasing, whereas most films have their big Blockbuster Weekend, it goes down, this is the inverse.

00:23:09.000 I think this film really is potentially starting a movement.

00:23:13.000 More and more people are getting active, focusing on the issue, more people care about the issue.

00:23:18.000 There are creepy people in the media that are smearing it as QAnon and other weird things, but get this.

00:23:25.000 Even with that, on Rotten Tomatoes, the Tomato Meter, which is the official corporate press reviewers, give it a 75%.

00:23:33.000 That surprised me.

00:23:35.000 The audience gives it a 100% with over 10,000 verified ratings.

00:23:39.000 Wow.

00:23:40.000 I gotta say, we have been praising this film.

00:23:43.000 I think not only was it masterfully done, it is an entertaining film.

00:23:48.000 It captures you.

00:23:49.000 It makes you feel.

00:23:51.000 At the same time, that feeling matters.

00:23:53.000 I watch movies every day.

00:23:55.000 I watch a different movie every day.

00:23:56.000 I've gone to the theaters.

00:23:57.000 Yeah, I might get a tear in the eye or something for a good scene.

00:24:00.000 I might get excited for a good scene, but none of it matters.

00:24:03.000 You know, I know that Captain America fighting somebody is just fun.

00:24:06.000 But when I watch a film that's based on a true story, and I see a scene in that film that I couldn't believe was real, and I'm tearing up.

00:24:14.000 I was... Let me put it this way, because we're going to start getting into spoilers now.

00:24:19.000 There is a part of the film, so a warning to all of you who still want to go see the movie and don't want to hear spoilers.

00:24:25.000 We're telling you right now.

00:24:27.000 But for everyone else who did, we're going to start getting into some of the finer details so we can better understand this.

00:24:32.000 Because I want to talk about one of the most powerful things I've made reference to a week or so ago.

00:24:39.000 It is when you rescue this kid on the border.

00:24:42.000 So again, spoilers.

00:24:43.000 Here we go.

00:24:45.000 You are talking to this child.

00:24:47.000 You tell the child your name, and the kid looks up at you, and he says, Timoteo, he has a necklace that was given to him by his sister, with Saint Timothy, I believe is the, what was it, First Timothy?

00:25:00.000 First Timothy 611, scripture reference, yeah.

00:25:04.000 And when I saw that, first of all, my name's Tim, so I was just like, Whoa!

00:25:09.000 Like, that's crazy for me to hear!

00:25:10.000 And your name's Tim too, I know, but like, I'm watching this movie, this kid is being rescued from this evil, evil man and this organization.

00:25:18.000 You say, this is my name, and then he pauses, and it seems to be some kind of, like, divine intervention when he says, look what I have, as if you were sent specifically to save him.

00:25:28.000 I was on the verge of tears when I saw that happen.

00:25:31.000 I said, I'm like, yeah, but I wish that really happened.

00:25:34.000 And then you told me it did.

00:25:35.000 It happened.

00:25:37.000 And I told Alejandro, I said, because I have the necklace.

00:25:40.000 I mean, I have it.

00:25:41.000 It's like priceless to me.

00:25:43.000 I have it in a vault, you know, and I took it out for my podcast and things.

00:25:47.000 I should have brought it here, but I said, don't put this in because no one's going to believe it.

00:25:51.000 Then it's going to come off weird.

00:25:52.000 And what are the chances?

00:25:53.000 And people still don't think it's real, but they still like it.

00:25:57.000 So he was right.

00:25:58.000 But it's great to be able to say it actually happened.

00:26:00.000 And it was a strange moment where He, you know, and it's very accurate. 1.00

00:26:08.000 It didn't happen in the garage like you see in the film.

00:26:11.000 It happened in a different room in the aftercare center.

00:26:13.000 But he runs to me and he hugs me and the part that they didn't pick up in the film is we're sobbing.

00:26:19.000 I'm shaking and he's shaking and that's before I got the necklace.

00:26:24.000 That's before.

00:26:24.000 He just starts grabbing me and he says to me, and I think This was the kind of transformational moment for me, because I didn't know if I was going to stay in this work, especially after this.

00:26:39.000 This was the first kid I ever saw, by the way, who was in a video.

00:26:43.000 Before that time, I'd only done videos, like end-user, you know, possession cases of child exploitation material.

00:26:50.000 This was the first time when I saw this kid, I knew him.

00:26:52.000 I recognized him. 0.97

00:26:53.000 I had seen him being raped. 0.68

00:26:55.000 Full, like, 30-minute video. 0.68

00:26:57.000 And his captor was the guy in the video.

00:27:01.000 So I'm already unheightened like, oh my gosh, it's a real kid.

00:27:04.000 This is, you know, I'd never seen it.

00:27:08.000 And so I'm coloring with him, okay?

00:27:11.000 Prager U, you know Prager U?

00:27:13.000 Oh yeah, Dennis Prager.

00:27:14.000 Today, Prager U launched a series called Light in the Darkness, where they have me telling

00:27:19.000 some of these stories.

00:27:20.000 This story is told and is dramatized in a really cool way and it's more accurate.

00:27:24.000 And we're sitting there and we're coloring and I'm trying to get him to talk because where's your sister?

00:27:29.000 Where are the other kids?

00:27:30.000 He's five years old, right?

00:27:32.000 and and up until that point we've just been kind of friendly we got close he started trusting me and it was like just like this like something just turned on in him and he just ran over to me and jumped into my arms like almost like again it was like An angel said go or something like he was he didn't ease into it we're just coloring and then boom he gets up and runs to me and he jumps into my arms and he starts shaking crying and I'm crying like I just lose it you know I've got kids his age you know you start picturing your own kids you superimpose your kids faces in the moment right um and he says these words to me

00:28:08.000 And it's just, I knew at that time that the stats were millions of kids.

00:28:12.000 So I heard him say this.

00:28:13.000 It's like I heard echoed millions of kids saying this.

00:28:17.000 And it's a simple phrase, but a five-year-old should never have to say it.

00:28:20.000 And he just said, I don't belong here.

00:28:24.000 Can you imagine a five-year-old kid saying, I don't belong here?

00:28:28.000 No five-year-old kid would even think to say that.

00:28:30.000 And he knew he belonged with his family, and that's when he pulled the necklace.

00:28:35.000 And he said, my sister gave me this.

00:28:38.000 And I didn't take it.

00:28:40.000 I was like, oh, no, no, no, you keep it.

00:28:42.000 He gave me a little card, too.

00:28:43.000 You see the card in the movie?

00:28:44.000 He gave me the card, too.

00:28:46.000 And I took it home.

00:28:48.000 And I was so broken up, I went home, and PragerU gets into this in the series as well.

00:28:53.000 They just launched it today.

00:28:55.000 And I go home and I fall down.

00:28:56.000 I live 12 minutes from the border.

00:29:01.000 It's a small town.

00:29:03.000 And I fall down, and the dichotomy of the whole, I walk into my house, my kids are happy, and they're playing, and they're 10 minutes away from this kid who has spent the first five years of his life being sexually assaulted and videotaped.

00:29:18.000 And my kids are happy, and they're only 10 minutes away, and I couldn't deal with it.

00:29:21.000 It was like the underbelly of my own town, and that's everybody's town.

00:29:25.000 And it was so hard for me.

00:29:27.000 Remember, this is the first kid that I've seen, and I collapsed on the floor, and Catherine thought I was having a heart attack, because I'd never had this happen.

00:29:36.000 I was exhausted, too.

00:29:37.000 It was 48 hours or longer I hadn't slept because the case was so intense.

00:29:42.000 And she didn't know details, but she kind of cradled me, kind of held me, you know?

00:29:47.000 And she was like, what is going on?

00:29:49.000 And I tried to get it out, and that's when I made the decision.

00:29:52.000 I said, Catherine, I'm either in 1,000% or I'm 1,000% out.

00:29:57.000 I have to make a decision right now, because this is too much.

00:30:01.000 Then my other kid, who's about the same age as this little boy, Miguel's not his real name, but in the film, my kid who's his age takes the necklace.

00:30:09.000 He's like, what's this?

00:30:11.000 My kid's Jimmy.

00:30:12.000 And he says, what's this?

00:30:13.000 And I said, oh, this kid gave it to me.

00:30:15.000 I can't tell Jimmy what's going on, you know?

00:30:18.000 This kid I just helped.

00:30:19.000 He's like, oh, cool.

00:30:20.000 He's looking at it.

00:30:21.000 We call him Curious Jim.

00:30:22.000 He's a very curious kid.

00:30:23.000 He's very touchy.

00:30:24.000 He looks at everything.

00:30:25.000 He's like, oh, the kid put your name on it.

00:30:28.000 I didn't see it before!

00:30:28.000 It says, Man of God on one side, on the other side it says, First Timothy 611, with that scripture.

00:30:36.000 And he's like, how did you put your name on it, Dad?

00:30:38.000 I'm like, oh, he didn't.

00:30:39.000 No, no, he didn't.

00:30:40.000 And then he shows it to me, and then it's like, boom!

00:30:43.000 There's my decision.

00:30:44.000 It's a thousand percent in.

00:30:46.000 I know that for the sake of filmmaking, you guys had to do it the way you did, and it was masterfully done, but that story, I'm sorry, is just Told naturally is a bet it's better here You are not realizing what you've been given you go home and you're saying we make this decision and then your kids like He gave you your name tag.

00:31:03.000 Yeah.

00:31:03.000 Oh, I don't I just want to say as I'm hearing all this I I I don't follow any particular religion.

00:31:11.000 I do believe in God and I Atheists or whatever can call me naive, they can scoff, but

00:31:18.000 I don't know how you hear a story like this, how you watch a film like this, how you hear about the work

00:31:23.000 that you've done, how you see a movement like this and believe that there's not something out there, something

00:31:27.000 more powerful.

00:31:27.000 This I can only describe as, and I'm not, maybe it's not for me to say, but...

00:31:33.000 I can say it.

00:31:34.000 Divine intervention.

00:31:35.000 I can say it, brother. I mean, all glory to God.

00:31:41.000 I'm hugging the American dream right now as a Mexican filmmaker.

00:31:45.000 Eight years of work.

00:31:47.000 So many obstacles.

00:31:48.000 So many people saying, you can't do this.

00:31:50.000 This is too dangerous.

00:31:52.000 Team telling me, brother, before you guys commit to do this, I need to tell you something.

00:31:57.000 We have a lot of friends.

00:31:58.000 But we have a lot of enemies too, and those enemies will be yours.

00:32:02.000 Are you sure you want to do this?

00:32:04.000 And I closed my eyes for a second.

00:32:05.000 I said, what if this is my son?

00:32:07.000 What if this is my daughter?

00:32:08.000 What if this is my niece, my nephew?

00:32:12.000 What would I do?

00:32:15.000 You know, it was like, just imagine that.

00:32:18.000 I will stop everything that I'm doing.

00:32:20.000 I will hope that the entire world will stop everything they're doing so they can help me to find my son, my daughter, my niece, my nephew, right?

00:32:27.000 Okay, so that's my motivation.

00:32:29.000 Don't wait until this tragedy happens to you for you to wake up, right?

00:32:32.000 Wake up now, do something, and I can't believe that, you know, Angel Studios is the smallest distribution company in America.

00:32:42.000 Right?

00:32:43.000 So after three years of everyone passing, like, no, this is not for us.

00:32:46.000 No, this movie is not a business for us.

00:32:48.000 This is not a good business for us.

00:32:49.000 This is not for us.

00:32:50.000 So three years of doors being closed and closed and closed and closed.

00:32:53.000 And you have two options.

00:32:54.000 Either you give up or you don't give up.

00:32:56.000 We choose the second one.

00:32:57.000 We don't give up.

00:32:58.000 Why?

00:32:58.000 Because it's about saving children.

00:33:00.000 What if this is your son?

00:33:01.000 What happened after?

00:33:03.000 I'm praying for God to send an angel to rescue this film.

00:33:08.000 And I got a phone call from Angel Studios.

00:33:10.000 Hey, we're very interested in your movie.

00:33:12.000 Do you have any other options?

00:33:14.000 No, you're my only option.

00:33:15.000 Okay, well, let's close the deal.

00:33:16.000 Five days later, we sign the contract and, okay, this is three and a half months ago, right?

00:33:20.000 Three and a half months ago.

00:33:21.000 And then, okay, when are we coming out?

00:33:24.000 July 4th.

00:33:25.000 What?

00:33:26.000 Brother, we don't have, I mean, we don't have, like, money for publicity or marketing.

00:33:30.000 The biggest films in the world are gonna come out July 4th, week before and week after.

00:33:35.000 Mission Impossible.

00:33:36.000 Indiana Jones, competing with the biggest company in the world.

00:33:39.000 They have hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:33:40.000 Are you kidding?

00:33:42.000 Eduardo, it's very important July 4th, because it's Independence Day.

00:33:47.000 Freedom.

00:33:48.000 We need to shake the conscience of America, because yes, let's celebrate freedom in one hand, but let's do something else so we can bring freedom back to those children that are not free, brother.

00:33:58.000 Let's do something.

00:33:59.000 We never thought that July 4th, Sound of Freedom was number one movie in America.

00:34:03.000 This is a miracle.

00:34:06.000 All glory to God.

00:34:08.000 People like to make jokes that we live in a simulation.

00:34:11.000 And it's because reality seems to be too absurd.

00:34:15.000 We've had so many weird goings-on in politics of President Donald Trump, and so you'll see many of these individuals who are secular atheists tweet things like, I hope the writers of this season, you know, do X, Y, or Z, as if to imply there is someone with greater power over us that they're starting to believe.

00:34:32.000 Yeah, I always find it funny that they could entertain such an idea without realizing, like, you're literally talking about divine purpose or God.

00:34:40.000 I bring that up because Seeing the movie, hearing the stories, it feels, like I mentioned, the Timoteo necklace thing, I'm like, that was masterful writing, I wish it was real.

00:34:50.000 Well, it was real.

00:34:51.000 And then you start to realize that some things in life are so miraculous that you would assume it was written to be a story, that it never could really happen, but these things do happen.

00:35:04.000 When that kid, when you told the story of the little kid saying, I don't belong here.

00:35:08.000 No five-year-old should say that.

00:35:10.000 My thought was, why would a five-year-old say that?

00:35:13.000 Unless what was happening was so out of alignment with the law of nature, whatever you want to call it, with God's plan or whatever, that there was direct intervention to correct this evil and set it right.

00:35:25.000 Absolutely.

00:35:26.000 And little did I know, you know, like when you get into the Columbia scene and I remember being in Columbia and I'm meeting these guys and this is after I've left the government and it's one of our first big operations and I remember thinking, Man, like, no one believes me.

00:35:44.000 Like, I go home and tell them, my family and friends, I have a very small audience at this time, right?

00:35:50.000 This isn't real. 0.94

00:35:51.000 Like, 11-year-old kids, people want to have sex with an 11-year-old? 0.98

00:35:54.000 Come on.

00:35:55.000 And I remember thinking, I was going through a whole island scene, and you see the whole Columbia scene, most of the movie, it's filmed on location, by the way, where these things happened, including this van scene with the kid at the port of entry.

00:36:06.000 They filmed it, Homeland Security gave us permission to film right in the very place where it happened.

00:36:11.000 That's why I can't watch the film.

00:36:12.000 It's too much for me.

00:36:13.000 But I remember thinking, I wish I had cameras in my eyes.

00:36:16.000 I remember having that thought, is that millions of people could watch what I'm seeing because they don't believe it.

00:36:21.000 And so who would have thought, like I said, another miracle that eight, nine years later, literally millions of people would see it through my eyes because of this guy.

00:36:31.000 Thanks for that, man, and to you for your sacrifice, Tim, because meeting a hero, a true hero, it changed your life.

00:36:38.000 No, but here's the thing, I'm not that, because I love history, okay?

00:36:43.000 We had slavery in this country at a time, horrific, nothing worse than the transatlantic slave trade.

00:36:48.000 How did it end?

00:36:49.000 You know, we can rescue 100,000, whatever, just like Harriet Tubman, who's my hero of all time.

00:36:55.000 But who ended it?

00:36:57.000 And it wasn't even Lincoln.

00:36:58.000 When Lincoln met Harry Beecher Stowe, who wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin, for the first time in the middle of the Civil War, he said to her, so you're the little lady that wrote the big book.

00:37:07.000 that started this war. Wow. What he was saying was, because he at that point in 1862, he had

00:37:13.000 changed the purpose of the Civil War to just bring in the Union back to, no, we're gonna use this to

00:37:18.000 liberate the captive. And it was Harry Beecher Stowe, Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, all

00:37:25.000 the great abolitionists, they changed it. They converted him to the true cause.

00:37:31.000 And so he, I'm so tired of you calling me like a hero or whatever because like what's going to end this thing is you and you and you like the storytellers are going to end this.

00:37:41.000 I can't do it.

00:37:42.000 I can, the storytellers change culture.

00:37:44.000 And this, I mean, look at the screen.

00:37:46.000 It's a $53 million in 10 days, 5 million people in 10 days.

00:37:51.000 Like this could change history.

00:37:53.000 Yeah.

00:37:54.000 And this could change it.

00:37:55.000 More films.

00:37:57.000 More movies, more culture building, more change.

00:38:01.000 This is beyond just this one story.

00:38:04.000 One of the reasons I'm so adamant about telling people to go see this is that Hollywood is some dark, dark stuff, man.

00:38:11.000 We've seen these actors come out and talk about what happened to them in Hollywood.

00:38:15.000 There have been some recent stories of celebrities, when they were kids, how they were abused and exploited.

00:38:21.000 That's an evil place.

00:38:23.000 And not everybody there, I know, I know people who work there, but there's gotta be a way that we can build something else.

00:38:29.000 And this is a path towards that as well.

00:38:31.000 I wanted to add, though, I'll say a couple things.

00:38:35.000 In the beginning of the film, Jim Caviezel and you, obviously, in real life, had to watch these videos.

00:38:41.000 I don't know how you do it.

00:38:44.000 That scene where the other agent says, I don't think I can do this, I'm thinking to myself, how is a job like this possible?

00:38:51.000 Because, spoilers, I know I warned you.

00:38:55.000 In the film, I don't know how true to life the direct lines are or whatever, but Your character, you know, you go to this pedophile and you say that in watching these films, you can't help but be attracted to it.

00:39:09.000 And I'm watching this thinking like, I don't see that as being a physical, mental possibility for me.

00:39:17.000 I imagine that if I was in a circumstance, I'd quit on the spot.

00:39:21.000 The moment anyone tried to bring anything up, I'd punch the monitor.

00:39:25.000 And I got to be completely honest.

00:39:27.000 Watching this film, I'm in the middle of it, and I'm thinking, am I wrong about the death penalty?

00:39:34.000 That's how seriously I was moved by this.

00:39:35.000 I'm very anti-death penalty, but seeing this message made me really just start to think about what the Founding Fathers meant, how they went through this, what does it really mean, and it really challenged my moral views on how we deal with crimes like this.

00:39:55.000 That's how I'll phrase it.

00:39:56.000 And ultimately I would say I'm still very much opposed to death penalty, but when you watch this... It challenged you.

00:40:02.000 It challenged me.

00:40:05.000 These people and the crimes they have committed against children is the most heinous thing in my mind imaginable.

00:40:13.000 You talk about passion murders and things like that, and those are at the top.

00:40:19.000 Murder being one of the worst possible things you can do.

00:40:22.000 But you know, when it comes to a lot of these crimes of passion and planning, there is some underlying purpose about greed.

00:40:28.000 There's some, you know, sin, one of the seven deadly sins associated with it, and that's why it's near the top.

00:40:36.000 But this abuse of children, I think, the worst crime imaginable.

00:40:41.000 And my view is, if murder of an individual warrants the death penalty, why would not this, the most heinous of all crimes imaginable?

00:40:51.000 And that's a deep challenge for me.

00:40:53.000 Ultimately, where I land the death penalty is I just don't trust the government enough to accurately deal out justice.

00:40:59.000 Minimum 100 years of jail.

00:41:02.000 Yes.

00:41:02.000 Minimum.

00:41:03.000 For anybody who steals the innocence and the purity of a child.

00:41:07.000 Locked up forever.

00:41:09.000 Minimum.

00:41:10.000 Minimum.

00:41:11.000 There are people who have abused children who have been convicted of abusing children in a court of law and have served their sentences and now they're just out in public.

00:41:19.000 How can you serve a sentence for that crime?

00:41:21.000 Doing the same thing.

00:41:22.000 Exactly, that's one of the highest recidivism rates.

00:41:24.000 That's true with sex crimes generally speaking and they just let these people back out on the streets.

00:41:28.000 Would you like someone like that to be your neighbor if you have a child?

00:41:31.000 Yeah, well this happened too.

00:41:33.000 I've talked about this before.

00:41:34.000 Brian Peck, he was convicted of abusing a child and then after he was released from prison, what the court said is he was not allowed to work with children.

00:41:43.000 He previously worked at Disney Channel.

00:41:44.000 The Disney Channel hired him back, but to speak to them over the phone and consult over the phone so he wouldn't be around children.

00:41:50.000 Why is this man out of prison?

00:41:52.000 Why does this man have a job?

00:41:53.000 Why would these networks want to continue working with him? 0.97

00:41:55.000 It's sickening.

00:41:56.000 So, what I want to ask, and I actually do think it would be, I'd like to bring Ian into this one.

00:42:01.000 I don't even know how to ask it, but you mentioned that before you rescued this kid, you have to watch these videos.

00:42:06.000 Yeah.

00:42:06.000 How could you possibly?

00:42:08.000 So I'll tell you, I have a million holes burned in my brain, that's how I describe it.

00:42:13.000 And yes, one of the hardest scenes for me to watch is in fact the scene where you were, you know, Jim's crying.

00:42:20.000 It's, I can't tell you how real that is.

00:42:21.000 I don't know, a couple thousand hours maybe, over 10 years, having to watch these videos.

00:42:27.000 And these aren't, you know, I remember talking to my friend once and they're like, oh come on, I mean, how can you tell the difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old?

00:42:33.000 I'm like, you think that's what child porn is?

00:42:36.000 Child exploitation material we got?

00:42:38.000 Bro, we're talking seven, six, five.

00:42:41.000 We don't have time to get into like adolescent minors.

00:42:45.000 There's been a 5,000% increase in those kind of sex videos in the last decade.

00:42:50.000 And it's only going up. 0.97

00:42:52.000 And so that burns a hole in your brain.

00:42:55.000 And the other thing that burns a hole in your brain is undercover work.

00:42:57.000 And that is true.

00:42:58.000 The story is true.

00:42:59.000 The Olshansky character.

00:43:01.000 Very real case.

00:43:02.000 I provided Alejandro with a 1 hour and 20 minute interview.

00:43:05.000 Where I'm talking to this guy, Special Agent Tim Ballard, talking to Olshansky, and he won't break. 0.90

00:43:10.000 And he is a pedophile, like, extraordinary.

00:43:12.000 He's got two million pieces of child exploitation material, videos, everything, categorized, cataloged, just like you see in the film. 0.92

00:43:19.000 And he won't break.

00:43:20.000 He won't tell me where he was hiding it.

00:43:22.000 He was hiding it in his house, in the floorboards.

00:43:24.000 We ended up finding it.

00:43:26.000 How I broke him, I kicked the agent out.

00:43:28.000 I said, hey, let me try this.

00:43:29.000 This is crazy.

00:43:30.000 Crazy idea.

00:43:32.000 I'm wired up and I start going into what his literature is.

00:43:35.000 I read his books and stuff online.

00:43:37.000 Every man is a pedophile, but the puritanical society has crushed the human spirit of sexuality and blah blah blah blah blah.

00:43:43.000 So I'm like, okay, let's test it. 0.96

00:43:46.000 And I went in.

00:43:47.000 I went in and tried to convince him that I am...

00:43:50.000 You know, it's easier when I'm Brian Black.

00:43:53.000 That's one of the undercover names I once used.

00:43:54.000 Or, you know, you get to be a different person.

00:43:57.000 This was me being undercover as me.

00:44:00.000 Tim Ballard, Special Agent, Closet Pedophile.

00:44:03.000 And how can I help myself?

00:44:05.000 Because I have the largest collection of child exploitation material on the planet in the evidence vault.

00:44:12.000 He fell for it.

00:44:14.000 And I showed Alejandro, I said, listen to this.

00:44:17.000 He called me freaking out.

00:44:19.000 He was shaking.

00:44:19.000 He was like, bro, I can't believe how sick this guy is and how dark you had to get.

00:44:25.000 And he's like, I gotta figure out how to take an hour and 20 minute interview and reduce it to like two minutes.

00:44:30.000 And you see how he does it in the movie.

00:44:31.000 He does a pretty good job with the cigarette.

00:44:32.000 I won't say more, but that's a very real thing.

00:44:35.000 That burned another million holes in my brain.

00:44:37.000 I walked out of that, and it shows Jim splashing water.

00:44:41.000 I walked around the side of the house and I vomited.

00:44:43.000 Right by the tire of my car, I remember.

00:44:45.000 I vomited.

00:44:48.000 There's a line that Jim Caviezel says, you mentioned, was ad-libbed.

00:44:52.000 Yes!

00:44:53.000 It's so good.

00:44:54.000 That scene was absolutely incredible.

00:44:57.000 When people are cheering for the good guys in that, I'm... But Ian, the reason I wanted to bring you into this is Ian used to moderate for a social media website.

00:45:06.000 I don't know the degree to the awful things you saw in doing moderation.

00:45:09.000 Did not even hold a candle to what you've been through, man, or what you've seen.

00:45:12.000 I'd see every once in a while, I'd see a leg get blown off.

00:45:15.000 I didn't ever see a little kid naked.

00:45:18.000 And I don't ever want to.

00:45:20.000 No, no.

00:45:20.000 But it was, I had to, it broke me after, and I kept doing it and it kept breaking me and then I, I just kept doing it because it was one, I had to, someone had to do it.

00:45:29.000 I don't think human minds are supposed to be able to look at that stuff.

00:45:32.000 No way.

00:45:33.000 They say that people who work at Facebook and these social media platforms, this kind of stuff gets uploaded, you know, to varying degrees.

00:45:39.000 I'm not saying just one kind of awful content.

00:45:41.000 There's varying degrees of really bad stuff from someone just getting mercilessly attacked, to murdered, to child exploitation.

00:45:47.000 And there are stories about these Facebook employees who are completely traumatized from working this job where they're trying to remove this stuff and I think people should realize that that was one of the reasons I think the film is so good because that issue right there like understand man there there are people who if If you don't watch it, how do you stop these guys?

00:46:06.000 You've got to prove in a court of law, you've got to have them arrested, you have to have them stand trial, and the evidence has to be shown.

00:46:11.000 That's right.

00:46:13.000 I don't.

00:46:13.000 You want to share, like, for example, this is not in the movie because, I mean, it's very difficult to make a movie about this guy when he's telling you, like, so many beautiful, powerful, like, stories, you know, about saving children, and you have only two hours.

00:46:27.000 He said, brother, we need to do a TV series because I need like 200 episodes to tell your story, you know?

00:46:32.000 So that's why it's very difficult.

00:46:34.000 But that, when someone asks you, what is the hardest thing ever happened to you?

00:46:38.000 And you said, well, smiling, smile to the face of evil.

00:46:42.000 Can you explain?

00:46:42.000 Because that happened there, but it's not in the movie.

00:46:45.000 But that is like, man, when you shared that story, I was like, I would have killed the guy. 0.99

00:46:49.000 Well, that's the part about the other million holes in your brain. 0.70

00:46:52.000 It's one thing to see the images, but then you've got to hang with these guys.

00:46:55.000 And you've got to hang with them for months sometimes.

00:46:57.000 And you hang out all day, all night.

00:47:00.000 You're their buddies, your business partners.

00:47:03.000 And how do you do it?

00:47:04.000 This messes with your brain.

00:47:06.000 Because there's chemistry with the brain connection, right?

00:47:10.000 You can't fake it.

00:47:12.000 So you have to dig down hard and find the humanity in them.

00:47:15.000 There's something good redeeming in their heart and there's usually something and you gotta like grab it and try to love it.

00:47:23.000 Because you can't fake it that long.

00:47:26.000 There's a scene in the film where you're on the island and the Don, I think his name was right, tries taking one of the kids and you intervene, your character intervenes.

00:47:41.000 It's the scene where you're trying to sting these guys, save these kids.

00:47:45.000 Law enforcement is ready. 0.98

00:47:47.000 But before the rest of the kids arrive, because you don't know where they're at, this guy tries to rape a child.

00:47:54.000 Your character, I don't know if this is absolutely true as to how it happened or whatever, but your character intervenes and says, no, this one's mine.

00:48:02.000 And the guy puts a gun to his head and says, step out of the way.

00:48:05.000 And that's a scary thought that, I don't know, you can answer to this, circumstances where you have to collect information to shut these guys down.

00:48:15.000 But if you stop them in the moment, you jeopardize the whole mission, and it could put a hundred kids' lives at risk.

00:48:22.000 But that kid right there needs saving now.

00:48:24.000 I could not imagine what you do in a moment like this other than, I would assume, just save that kid.

00:48:31.000 It's tough, man.

00:48:33.000 What you have to do is, ahead of time, set it up so you don't find yourself in those situations.

00:48:39.000 So in full transparency, that scene was fictionalized.

00:48:44.000 It was a cool scene, right?

00:48:46.000 Because it brought this intensity and it showed me and Vampiro working together, which is true in spirit.

00:48:53.000 We worked together.

00:48:53.000 He's a very real guy.

00:48:54.000 The Vampiro character, very real.

00:48:57.000 But we plan out ahead of time to where on that operation and others like that, we would never let them be in the same space.

00:49:05.000 So we put the kids somewhere else.

00:49:07.000 Candy games.

00:49:08.000 We have female operators who are nurses pretending to be the groomers. 1.00

00:49:12.000 That's what traffickers think.

00:49:13.000 Getting the kids ready and then we separate.

00:49:16.000 We lure them with the money.

00:49:17.000 If you want the money, you better come over here.

00:49:18.000 One time we did an op where we put a yacht out off the coast.

00:49:22.000 You gotta come to the yacht, and we're gonna do the deal out there.

00:49:25.000 That's how far, we'll separate them.

00:49:27.000 So those kind of things never actually have to happen.

00:49:30.000 Did you, having spent time with, like, pedophiles, pederasts, because phile means love, like familial love, philia is like love of friend, but it's eros, it's erotic love. 0.87

00:49:41.000 Correct, yeah. 0.93

00:49:41.000 Pederasts. 0.93

00:49:42.000 Pederasts, is that what they call it? 0.99

00:49:44.000 Well, they don't, but they should.

00:49:46.000 You're right, yeah.

00:49:46.000 Do you find that there is a road to redemption for people that have gone through that?

00:49:53.000 I want to say yes, because I love redemption stories, but I've never seen it.

00:49:59.000 Vampiro, a little bit.

00:50:01.000 Well, Vampiro actually didn't rape a child. 0.71

00:50:05.000 He was involved with a prostitute who was selling her child, and when he saw that...

00:50:12.000 Alejandro played with that a little bit.

00:50:13.000 Yeah, you're right. 0.71

00:50:13.000 He thought it was like an older, and then he found out that she was like 13 years old, and that's when he said, oh my gosh, I'm gonna kill myself. 0.71

00:50:20.000 But I don't think he actually was with somebody who was underage.

00:50:23.000 No, he was actually never with someone underage.

00:50:25.000 So this, for those that haven't seen it, you know, for context, I know it is spoilers, but this is someone you were working with to try and stop the exploitation of kids.

00:50:33.000 Correct.

00:50:33.000 The reason I ask if there's a road to redemption, or you would think, is because, like, Tim, you mentioned it tested your morality, your Your thoughts of the death penalty started creeping in.

00:50:42.000 And when I was watching the movie, I was thinking, surveillance state.

00:50:45.000 Why don't we have a surveillance state to watch for these and to take to prevent this stuff?

00:50:50.000 And like, because a surveillance state would be horrific.

00:50:53.000 And you were saying you wish that you had cameras in your eyes like they can do that.

00:50:57.000 That could be the future.

00:50:58.000 But I don't think that's better.

00:50:59.000 I'll tell you why.

00:51:02.000 Because Epstein was a real guy.

00:51:04.000 And when we make laws, and we give power to government under the assumption it will always be good, bad people find a way to exploit that power in some way in very, very awful and dangerous ways, to the point where Epstein was actually, I think he was caught early on, and he got some kind of sweetheart deal, and then was released.

00:51:22.000 Now you've got, well Epstein's no longer here but he's arrested, Maxwell was convicted, and so we think that we enact these laws of surveillance state, for instance, we'll stop them, no.

00:51:31.000 Sooner or later, a bad person exploits the system, takes advantage of it, and now we're underneath them wielding that power against us, which makes it very difficult.

00:51:39.000 So there's got to be some balance.

00:51:41.000 I'm not going to pretend to be the expert on how we do it or how it should be done, but we have to be careful about giving too much power to one institution or organization unless it be wielded in negative ways.

00:51:50.000 Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself because I think what a big part of the solution is, like you were saying, it's the storytelling.

00:51:59.000 It's letting people know that it happened.

00:52:01.000 But what I'm chomping at the bit, is it just more undercover sting operations?

00:52:08.000 It is, and I'll tell you why.

00:52:09.000 After that operation in Columbia happened, again, I wish the film were 10 hours so you could see everything that happened.

00:52:16.000 We went back.

00:52:17.000 That was such a big hit.

00:52:18.000 In fact, it was under-reported in the film, 54 rescues.

00:52:21.000 It was 120 rescues in two different locations.

00:52:24.000 And there's a documentary, DNA Films, it's an Emmy-winning documentary.

00:52:27.000 No one's seen it yet.

00:52:28.000 Angel Studios is putting it out called Triple Take, and it dissects everything that happened on that island.

00:52:33.000 But after we did those three hits, 120 rescues, 15 traffickers down, we went back under different undercover faces we've sent them in and asked the same people who otherwise would have introduced you to the traffickers and everyone was like, don't even talk about that.

00:52:50.000 Don't you know what happened?

00:52:51.000 These Americans came down. 1.00

00:52:53.000 You gotta see the papers.

00:52:54.000 And we're just inside going, it's working!

00:52:56.000 Yes!

00:52:56.000 It's working for the first time!

00:52:58.000 These guys are looking over their shoulder.

00:53:00.000 For the first time, there's some kind of a consequence that can make the barrier to entry into this black market of child slavery, you know, too high to entry.

00:53:09.000 I do love them saying the Americans came down. 1.00

00:53:12.000 They're scared.

00:53:13.000 They know that there are people who will stop them.

00:53:15.000 Right.

00:53:16.000 I love this story, man.

00:53:19.000 The idea of some kind of divine intervention and the idea of just the plain old physical reality in which you are saving kids, you are telling this story, gives me hope, makes me believe in the good, makes me feel like, you know, I don't understand how someone out there could be a nihilist.

00:53:38.000 Someone out there could be pessimistic about where we're headed.

00:53:42.000 There are bad people out there, but these are the stories that give you hope.

00:53:45.000 And I hope people, for one, go see this movie right now.

00:53:49.000 Well, as soon as possible.

00:53:50.000 Bring your friends and family.

00:53:51.000 But I hope people are moved by this to the point where they, in some way, get involved.

00:53:56.000 The message at the end of the film from Jim, and from you guys, about this could maybe inspire people the way Uncle Tom's Cabin did, I love it.

00:54:04.000 This, this, uh, the issue of trafficking often comes up, uh, in the film Nefarious.

00:54:10.000 Have you guys seen Nefarious?

00:54:10.000 No, yeah.

00:54:11.000 I recommend it.

00:54:12.000 You gotta see it.

00:54:12.000 Very good.

00:54:13.000 More of like a talking piece, but there's an excellent line, spoiler alert, it's been out for a little while, where, you know, this guy, this, this psychiatrist thinks he's this virtuous dude, And then the demon says there are more people in slavery today than when slavery was legal.

00:54:29.000 And then he says, I don't know how many, a large portion or like more of them, most of them are sex slaves.

00:54:34.000 And you sit here thinking that you're doing good, that humans have improved. 0.84

00:54:38.000 And that's the kind of stuff where I'm just like...

00:54:41.000 We need to stop.

00:54:43.000 We need to figure out how we put an end to this.

00:54:45.000 And it's only gonna happen if people are moved to believe in something.

00:54:48.000 I often talk about why there's crime, we talk about rising crime in cities, and I say it's not the laws necessarily, it's our moral, it's our cultures, it's our moral framework.

00:54:57.000 If people who live in these cities don't care, if they're gonna stand by and just watch the crimes happen, if the police aren't going to intervene to arrest people, if laws are actually being put in place or precedent that stops people from saving the day, you will continue to see this stuff degrade.

00:55:11.000 But if more and more people hold in their hearts that certain things should not be there, unthinkable, and we will do something to stop it, it becomes normal.

00:55:18.000 And then you stop it.

00:55:20.000 There will always be evil, but... I think we've, for the longest time, at least in my life, so much of what we've seen in big cities especially with the rise in crime is...

00:55:29.000 Not my problem.

00:55:29.000 Leave me out of it.

00:55:31.000 I hope this film has the effect of making people not feel that way and say, we're going to be active.

00:55:37.000 We're going to do something.

00:55:38.000 It's happening.

00:55:39.000 It's happening.

00:55:40.000 I mean, I have never seen in my life so many people that they go, they go to see Sound of Freedom and when they leave the theater, they videotape themselves and they share their testimony with tears, crying, their heart are speaking.

00:55:54.000 And then they share that with all their, you know, their followers.

00:55:58.000 Those are our posters, because we don't have a budget for posters, but we have millions of people talking about this film, and that's the movement.

00:56:05.000 No one can stop this movement anymore.

00:56:07.000 They can stop Tim.

00:56:08.000 They can stop me.

00:56:09.000 They can stop millions of people that are just watching the film, and it's going to be just more and more.

00:56:14.000 This is a global movement, brother.

00:56:15.000 This is just the beginning.

00:56:16.000 This movie is coming out all over the world.

00:56:18.000 And we're providing an opportunity right now.

00:56:20.000 So something interesting happened at the end of the film.

00:56:23.000 It used to say, and then they created Operation Underground Railroad.

00:56:27.000 And again, I also became the CEO of the Nazarene Fund.

00:56:31.000 I told Angel Studios, take the logo off of where you are.

00:56:34.000 That's my baby.

00:56:35.000 I made it.

00:56:36.000 Take it off.

00:56:37.000 Because so many organizations out there are doing such great work.

00:56:41.000 And we're not the solution to every kid.

00:56:43.000 For many we are.

00:56:45.000 Neither is the Nazarene Fund.

00:56:47.000 And so, I actually, before the film came out, I stepped down from both.

00:56:51.000 So that I could create something brand new.

00:56:53.000 It's the only scalable approach.

00:56:55.000 And it supports Nazarene and OUR.

00:56:57.000 It's called the Spear Fund.

00:56:58.000 I'm actually announcing it for the first time right now on your show.

00:57:02.000 The Spear Fund, tip of the spear.

00:57:03.000 And what it is, it's a scalable approach to ending this.

00:57:07.000 Because every kid deserves the best rescuer, the best rescue organization, the best group,

00:57:11.000 whatever it is, and it's not just one organization.

00:57:15.000 So what we're doing is me and the co-founder of it is Jessica Munoz, who's one of the most

00:57:20.000 significant aftercare specialists in the United States.

00:57:25.000 She built something in Hawaii that was amazing called Pearl Haven. 0.99

00:57:27.000 And we are getting funds together so that we can then identify,

00:57:32.000 it's a capitalistic kind of approach where it's like, if you're the best,

00:57:35.000 you're getting the funding.

00:57:37.000 Because you're the best option for that kid, and you're the best option for that kid.

00:57:40.000 Every kid's going to get the best rescue.

00:57:42.000 So if people can support that, it's the spearfund.org.

00:57:47.000 Go there.

00:57:48.000 It's the fastest approach, the most effective approach to rescuing kids, and we're super excited to get people turned on to that.

00:57:55.000 In the movie, your character, Will You, needed funding.

00:57:58.000 So is this like you're now the one that's funding?

00:58:01.000 Correct.

00:58:02.000 My undercover days are done, okay?

00:58:03.000 But OUR, we're one of the first.

00:58:06.000 There's been many others, but to do what we do and the way we do it, but that's changed.

00:58:11.000 In the last 10 years, lots of vet groups and former law enforcement guys have built these amazing organizations.

00:58:18.000 So my goal now, I've left the two organizations that I love, and I still love, and I will still support, so that I can support all the others, because that's what the kids deserve.

00:58:28.000 I mean, again, if I'm being honest, I'm not going to say that the one I built is the end-all for everybody.

00:58:35.000 But there is an end-all for that one or that one.

00:58:37.000 And I want them all to rise.

00:58:39.000 With the energy of this film, I want there to be a solution.

00:58:41.000 And if people want to get involved, thespearfund.org, give us what you can, resources that way, and we'll return stories.

00:58:50.000 And we'll introduce you to people who are rescuing kids.

00:58:54.000 Better than I can do it.

00:58:56.000 And so it's exciting.

00:58:57.000 It's an exciting time because I think we can maybe end this thing.

00:59:04.000 I imagine there's multiple tiers of reasoning why it's happening.

00:59:08.000 It's like a financial reason for the people at the very top, and then it's like a sexual reason for the depraved that are purchasing into it.

00:59:16.000 But how do you disincentivize the financial aspect?

00:59:19.000 Do you just make them terrified that everyone around them is going to turn them in next?

00:59:22.000 Exactly.

00:59:23.000 It's the deterrent effect that we saw in Columbia.

00:59:26.000 These guys have been working with impunity throughout the world.

00:59:30.000 They're abusing children, selling them, and there's no consequence.

00:59:34.000 Now there is.

00:59:35.000 And this movie proves that.

00:59:36.000 I hope every pedophile and trafficker is scared out of their mind right now because they know that it's not just OUR, it's not just the Nazarene Fund, but it's going to be every other group that's going to be empowered now through this film, through the Spirit Fund, and I want them to be looking over their shoulders and thinking twice before they put their hand on a kid.

00:59:52.000 Why do you think it is so many media outlets were attacking the film, insulting it, saying QAnon or paranoid?

00:59:59.000 Well, first I'll say this.

01:00:00.000 It's so bizarre because this film was made, produced, written five, six years ago before QAnon was even a thing, so it's impossible what they're saying.

01:00:09.000 Why are they saying it?

01:00:10.000 Here's my theory.

01:00:11.000 I think I'm right.

01:00:13.000 There's an agenda out there, and there's a conversation to be had, and these outlets don't want to have it.

01:00:19.000 By the way, The Guardian, Rolling Stone, they all praised this operation when it happened.

01:00:24.000 They don't remember, it was eight years ago, but I have the articles.

01:00:26.000 Look at these guys rescuing these kids in Columbia!

01:00:28.000 And now, eight years later, oh, it's QAnon, it didn't even happen, blah blah.

01:00:32.000 There's a conversation they don't want to have.

01:00:34.000 They don't want to talk about the fact that there's 85,000 unaccompanied minors who came to our border and were released and lost in a country that's the highest consumer for child sex material.

01:00:44.000 That's scary.

01:00:45.000 They don't want to talk about the fact that teachers unions are providing what we would call pornography. 0.76

01:00:50.000 To third graders, right?

01:00:51.000 I used to be able to arrest people for providing the material to children that teachers are currently giving to kids under the guise of sex education.

01:01:00.000 They don't want to talk about 13-year-old girls being able to consent. 1.00

01:01:05.000 And I'm very libertarian when it comes to all these things for an adult, right?

01:01:09.000 Oh, I'll go get the books, yeah.

01:01:10.000 I think I got a couple of the books you're talking about.

01:01:12.000 We have a book.

01:01:13.000 That they have in grade schools.

01:01:14.000 Oh, I know that one!

01:01:15.000 Yes!

01:01:16.000 That teaches children how to use adult sex apps.

01:01:19.000 Yes, I'm very familiar.

01:01:21.000 I just posted on this.

01:01:22.000 There was a teacher who gave middle schoolers, 10 to 12 years old, a book called This Book is Gay.

01:01:27.000 It's the title of the book.

01:01:28.000 And in it, it explains how to use Grindr.

01:01:31.000 On page 182.

01:01:33.000 Now that one we can't show either.

01:01:35.000 You can't show some of these pictures!

01:01:36.000 I'm telling you, I could have arrested people for giving this to kids back in the early 2000s.

01:01:40.000 As it should be.

01:01:41.000 And now teachers are giving it to kids.

01:01:43.000 They don't want to talk about this.

01:01:45.000 And then you know what it leads to?

01:01:47.000 Consent.

01:01:48.000 Pedophiles have been pushing consent.

01:01:50.000 Kids should be able to consent.

01:01:52.000 I've studied pedophiles.

01:01:53.000 I've hunted them for two decades, right?

01:01:55.000 And they have platforms.

01:01:56.000 They have literature.

01:01:57.000 Kids should be able to make decisions for voting, for whatever they want to do.

01:02:00.000 Why are they saying this? 0.90

01:02:01.000 Well, because they want them to have legal consent to have sex with a 12-year-old, 11-year-old, whatever. 0.85

01:02:06.000 You know what?

01:02:06.000 This whole trans voice, and again, I'm libertarian for adults.

01:02:10.000 Do what you want to do.

01:02:11.000 I will fight for your right to choose to do that.

01:02:14.000 But these are children.

01:02:15.000 And when you let a kid consent to gender mutilation or consent to puberty blockers, you're an inch away from allowing them to consent.

01:02:24.000 You've lost the argument.

01:02:25.000 But this quite literally is one of their big arguments.

01:02:27.000 There have been numerous writers in what they call the queer movement who have talked about children consenting.

01:02:34.000 There are prominent activists who are making this argument and in fact tomorrow we're actually going to be having a debate about, I'll keep it vague for a little bit because I don't want to Spoil it or scare off the people who are coming on the show, but there's going to be a conversation about what is or isn't appropriate for kids.

01:02:49.000 I think it's fairly obvious.

01:02:51.000 When we ask the question...

01:02:53.000 We have people come on and debate various ideas, and I'll show these books to people and say, for what reason should children be shown these books?

01:03:04.000 And they just blindly defend it.

01:03:06.000 I just want to say, the real question is not, why do kids need to see this?

01:03:11.000 It's, why do you need to show this to a child?

01:03:15.000 Why are you so obsessed with ensuring that a child will have their innocence destroyed by this perverse content?

01:03:22.000 Let me ask you.

01:03:22.000 I mean, you're the expert.

01:03:24.000 Can you break down how would you describe grooming?

01:03:27.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:03:28.000 First... 1.00

01:03:30.000 The pedophiles want a kid who's sexualized, who will participate and choose to have sex with them. 1.00

01:03:35.000 That's what they want. 1.00

01:03:36.000 But you gotta get a kid sexualized first. 1.00

01:03:37.000 You know what porn does to an adult brain? 0.99

01:03:39.000 I mean, I've talked to porn addicts. 0.96

01:03:41.000 An adult brain.

01:03:42.000 It changes the chemistry of the brain.

01:03:44.000 It actually creates a damage of the brain.

01:03:47.000 Kids whose brains are just crystallizing still, they're little sponges.

01:03:50.000 So you give a third grader this, and they're giving third graders this stuff.

01:03:54.000 And then you expose them to TikTok and let them have that. 0.88

01:03:57.000 I mean, these kids, by the time they're 13, they're sex robots. 0.99

01:04:00.000 They're teaching kids to masturbate, too, in some schools. 0.99

01:04:03.000 That's part of it. 1.00

01:04:03.000 Go to your special corner and touch yourself while you look at this. 1.00

01:04:06.000 So these kids are already sexualized to the point where, and again, pedophiles are salivating. 0.98

01:04:11.000 Like, hey, they're doing our job for us.

01:04:13.000 These groups, the leftists out there, they're doing our job for us.

01:04:18.000 They're laughing, they're laughing right now.

01:04:19.000 They're salivating.

01:04:20.000 But you say they are doing the job for us, why not they are doing the job?

01:04:25.000 The groups are one and the same.

01:04:26.000 I made this argument.

01:04:30.000 I can't remember exactly what the story was, but I was critical of literal grooming.

01:04:35.000 In fact, let's go back to pre-Elon Musk Twitter.

01:04:39.000 There was an image of adult men showing graphic adult images to children.

01:04:43.000 And I said, this is grooming.

01:04:44.000 I got suspended.

01:04:45.000 They deleted the tweet and they said, you can't post this kind of stuff.

01:04:48.000 And I'm like, I can't call out the abuse.

01:04:51.000 They said it was offensive.

01:04:52.000 It was hate speech.

01:04:53.000 Wow.

01:04:54.000 So I criticize a story and I get these leftist publications Attacking me for it.

01:05:00.000 My response was, if my position is that child abusers are bad and you rush to their defense and attack me over it, my only assumption is you're a child abuser or you are in support of child abuse.

01:05:15.000 Both are wrong.

01:05:16.000 Yeah.

01:05:17.000 They get so angry about it, but I'm like, there's no legitimate reason to defend what they're doing in these schools.

01:05:23.000 And for the same reason, no legitimate reason, to attack Sound of Freedom!

01:05:27.000 It's the same motive.

01:05:27.000 Exactly.

01:05:29.000 And these guys also, every one of them, most of these publications, by the way, you're gonna find they're also promoting this, stop calling them pedophiles, that's mean!

01:05:36.000 Call them minor attracted persons.

01:05:38.000 And add them to the LGBTQ... I'm going to call them perverts. 1.00

01:05:41.000 I will absolutely not. 0.99

01:05:42.000 Make it worse, right?

01:05:43.000 Do you think that, I've heard yesterday, I think you mentioned, the average age of a child that sees pornography on the internet is 7 years old. 0.97

01:05:43.000 Perverts. 0.97

01:05:49.000 Average first exposure by some statistics is 7.

01:05:52.000 And also 5,000% increase in child trafficking.

01:05:54.000 Are they somehow related?

01:05:55.000 Is this the grooming?

01:05:55.000 Absolutely.

01:05:56.000 Absolutely!

01:05:57.000 Because they want willing victims.

01:05:59.000 They want willing victims.

01:06:00.000 Let me ask you something about, we've been talking about this for the past couple weeks.

01:06:05.000 If someone goes out in the public, holding up a graphic image of adults engaging in adult activities, that person gets arrested.

01:06:11.000 No question.

01:06:12.000 Cop comes and arrests them.

01:06:14.000 The internet is a publicly accessible space, in much the same way.

01:06:18.000 But for some reason, we have not enforced laws preventing people from posting obscene, lewd, lascivious images in places children have access to.

01:06:28.000 Why?

01:06:28.000 What's the difference?

01:06:29.000 Now I know there's a lot of libertarians who are like, oh, you're talking dangerous talk, Tim.

01:06:32.000 We gotta have freedom here.

01:06:33.000 And I'm like, we don't have the freedom to go and take an advertising truck with a TV on it, park it in the middle of Times Square, and play porn.

01:06:42.000 You can't do that.

01:06:44.000 They will come and tow that vehicle and arrest you on the spot.

01:06:46.000 So how is it that you can go on a social media platform children use and do the exact same thing?

01:06:52.000 That's a question I have.

01:06:54.000 Perhaps I don't have the moral authority or the understanding to say what we should or shouldn't do.

01:06:58.000 I lean towards maybe we should enforce it as illegal as it should be.

01:07:02.000 I'm wondering if you would agree or what your thoughts would be on that.

01:07:05.000 I mean, it's this weird double standard.

01:07:07.000 I'd say the same thing.

01:07:08.000 If you see what kids are doing, you're going to talk about this tomorrow on your show.

01:07:12.000 But what adults are doing to kids in these forums, in these parades they're doing, or the drag queen shows, I mean, you've seen the videos.

01:07:20.000 They're exposing themselves.

01:07:22.000 If that same person walked to a school playground and did that same thing, they'd be arrested.

01:07:26.000 But again, they're still kids.

01:07:28.000 They're kids in both places.

01:07:30.000 And here we are again, and there are states, I think Tennessee, who are trying to create laws that protect kids from that material.

01:07:39.000 You can't just post whatever, there's certain barriers, there's ID requirements that have to be verified for a kid to get through a certain wall in the internet.

01:07:49.000 I think that's important, to protect kids.

01:07:51.000 Yeah, one thing I want to mention here, you were sort of talking about genderqueer and a lot of this perverse literature that they're putting into the school system. 1.00

01:07:59.000 One thing that a lot of people aren't aware of is that this isn't something on the fringes, and even what you were talking about with respect to the pedophile who's depicted at the beginning of Sound of Freedom, who has written about how he thinks these are natural impulses and society's puritanical.

01:08:14.000 This person, unfortunately, is part of a movement which is much broader and more mainstream than people realize.

01:08:20.000 Alfred Kinsey, Wardell Pomeroy, all of the premier sex researchers who we are told to look to as experts and pioneers said similar things.

01:08:29.000 Kinsey wrote in his book, Sexual Behavior in the Human Female, that the reason a girl is traumatized when she's abused when she's underage is because the parents made a big deal out of it and not because of what actually happened.

01:08:41.000 This is in his published work.

01:08:42.000 This is the person who's credited as being the first person to scientifically study sex.

01:08:47.000 His first book, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, was published in 1948 and sold several hundred thousand copies.

01:08:53.000 People were reading it.

01:08:53.000 This was a textbook.

01:08:55.000 And there's a table, infamously, titled Table 34, that includes data tables.

01:09:00.000 Which only could have been collected through the abuse of children.

01:09:04.000 I'm not gonna graphically explain what those data tables purport to measure, but it's hundreds and hundreds of boys under the age of 15 who had to have been raped for him to get that information.

01:09:14.000 This is mainstream.

01:09:15.000 It's public knowledge.

01:09:16.000 His co-author, author Wardell Pomeroy, was in Time Magazine in the 1980s saying out loud that he thinks incest between adults and children can be, in his words, beneficial.

01:09:26.000 This is not even hiding under the rug.

01:09:28.000 There's an interview on the Phil Donahue Show with people from the Kinsey Institute and Judith Riesman, and they're defending all of this, saying that it was okay.

01:09:36.000 So these aren't fringe weirdos here and there.

01:09:38.000 This stuff is way more mainstream than people realize.

01:09:41.000 It is.

01:09:41.000 It's just taken this long.

01:09:43.000 But he's the father, by the way, not only of our modern sex education programs, like this stuff, he's also the father of the pedophile movement.

01:09:51.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:09:52.000 It all derives from the same sick, you know, backwards falsehoods.

01:09:56.000 Yeah.

01:09:56.000 So thank you for that.

01:09:57.000 I mean, you clearly know your stuff on that.

01:10:00.000 You're talking about this pedophile at the beginning of the film and also a real guy that you studied who made that claim that all men have these predilections or whatever.

01:10:08.000 And he thinks everyone steals.

01:10:10.000 It's it's exactly like it's the projection.

01:10:13.000 It's the world must be the way I see it Everyone must see the world the way I do.

01:10:16.000 There's no other explanation certainly You know, I'll put it this way.

01:10:21.000 I don't think I was ever accused these people of being smart something's clearly wrong with them but It's like, my dude, every country on the planet is, to varying degrees, wants to stop you.

01:10:33.000 Right?

01:10:34.000 The United States is actively in the process of trying to stop you.

01:10:37.000 Clearly, the world thinks what you are doing is wrong.

01:10:40.000 To believe otherwise is insanity.

01:10:43.000 But like I said, I don't know.

01:10:46.000 I wouldn't accuse people of being smart.

01:10:48.000 Even Epstein was not smart enough, right?

01:10:50.000 Right.

01:10:51.000 I gotta know, man.

01:10:52.000 After having experienced the last 20 years and making the movie and everything, how do you... And do you have kids too?

01:10:58.000 I don't know if you want to talk about it or not.

01:11:00.000 But how do you educate your children about sexuality now?

01:11:05.000 Do they need to be educated younger?

01:11:06.000 Do they just need the words to understand the body parts so that if they see something, they can tell you?

01:11:12.000 The idea of saying, no, go away, I just don't know that that can ever work.

01:11:18.000 Let me elaborate a little bit on that.

01:11:21.000 If there's a kid who doesn't understand what's happening to them and they can't articulate it, how do you navigate that problem?

01:11:27.000 So, my wife's in charge of that. 1.00

01:11:30.000 I try to support, but what she does, and this requires actual parenting to do this.

01:11:35.000 You have to know your kids intuitively, and moms have a gift. 1.00

01:11:40.000 My wife certainly does. 0.89

01:11:41.000 Gifts I wish I had, but I don't.

01:11:44.000 And so it's interesting, each of my kids have the conversation at a different age.

01:11:47.000 Some it's seven, some it's 10.

01:11:49.000 Some wasn't, they weren't ready until 12 or 13.

01:11:52.000 My wife literally prays over when it's time to say what, And what to say and what details to give. 0.99

01:11:58.000 Also, listen to your kids ask questions.

01:12:01.000 So you've got to give them the basics at a certain point, right?

01:12:03.000 Like you said, they have to have the vocabulary to be able to understand where dangers come in.

01:12:07.000 But the kids will ask and satisfy their curiosity.

01:12:11.000 Otherwise, the playground will.

01:12:12.000 And you don't want the playground to satisfy their curiosity.

01:12:15.000 So Catherine listens.

01:12:17.000 Okay, you're going somewhere.

01:12:18.000 Let's sit down.

01:12:20.000 I will be the one that gives you the answer before somebody else does.

01:12:24.000 Did you give them internet access when they were younger?

01:12:26.000 It's the same process.

01:12:28.000 Some of my kids were ready at 10 to begin monitored.

01:12:33.000 Some not until they're 13.

01:12:35.000 Good for you.

01:12:36.000 It depends.

01:12:37.000 It's customized, you know?

01:12:38.000 It's got to be monitored.

01:12:40.000 Because I want people... I don't know where this culture came from, this idea of like, the kid can go online, have fun.

01:12:46.000 You're basically saying, you are giving your kid a private jet to go anywhere in the world and see whatever they want.

01:12:52.000 Clearly you would never allow that.

01:12:54.000 You're not gonna let your kid go down to the, you know...

01:12:57.000 You can't go north of this street, you can't go four blocks out.

01:13:00.000 We tell our kids, you know, when I'm growing up, it's like, don't go past this street, don't go past this street.

01:13:04.000 And we'd listen for the most part.

01:13:05.000 Come home when the lights come on.

01:13:06.000 There were limitations on how far we could go.

01:13:09.000 If you went too far and you got lost, you got kidnapped, something bad happened to you, how are your parents going to find out?

01:13:13.000 The internet may not be the exact same thing in terms of physical space, but you can access literally anything.

01:13:19.000 That's ridiculous to allow a kid to do whatever you... Imagine if you were like, you're allowed to go wherever you want, son.

01:13:23.000 Even the adult bookstore down the street.

01:13:24.000 Go... No way!

01:13:26.000 And not only that, they wouldn't let you in.

01:13:27.000 It would be... It's illegal.

01:13:29.000 But the internet is different.

01:13:30.000 They let kids do whatever they want.

01:13:32.000 They don't think about it.

01:13:33.000 Parents really need to understand...

01:13:35.000 It's not just, quote-unquote, the internet.

01:13:37.000 It's unrestrained access to some of the worst and the best things humanity has created.

01:13:42.000 Not every kid is ready for all of that.

01:13:45.000 I would say there is a large quantity of things on the internet no one could handle seeing, let alone children.

01:13:52.000 With one click.

01:13:53.000 Yeah.

01:13:54.000 There's videos of murder.

01:13:57.000 I remember back in the day there was a viral video of three guys murdering someone that was going around.

01:14:02.000 And if you were just some kid and your parents gave you a phone or a computer, you saw a graphic and brutal murder take place.

01:14:10.000 Children should not be watching that stuff.

01:14:11.000 Well, you made this point about the fact that you wouldn't be allowed in an adult bookstore if you were just walking down the street or a place that sells pornography.

01:14:19.000 I shouldn't use euphemisms.

01:14:21.000 And not only that, but Pornhub banned access in the state of Utah because Utah passed a law saying we need to have stricter methods of verifying people's ages so that kids don't end up viewing porn on this website.

01:14:34.000 That made Pornhub very upset.

01:14:37.000 So not only is it the case that kids are allowed into these like digital establishments, the companies actually throw a fit when they aren't.

01:14:45.000 And I'll also mention this.

01:14:48.000 My dad made this point when I was a kid, and he was referring to television, and I think it's even more pressing with the internet today.

01:14:55.000 But he said, this is the first time in human history where parents allow complete strangers into their home to teach their children.

01:15:01.000 And now, it's two-way.

01:15:05.000 Your kid has an exchange with them.

01:15:05.000 You know?

01:15:07.000 The Trevor Project posted this interface that they were advertising to talk to somebody about your sexual identity, and if you hit the escape button three times, it deletes all of your browser history, and they were advertising that.

01:15:19.000 They were advertising that.

01:15:20.000 So if an adult walks in the room, hit escape three times, all of it's cleared.

01:15:23.000 Now what would you say about an adult who goes to a kid, tries to talk to them about sex, and says, don't tell your parents?

01:15:27.000 Horrifying.

01:15:29.000 It's like textbook.

01:15:30.000 Absolutely.

01:15:30.000 It's horrifying, it's grooming, and it's part of, again, the pedophile movement.

01:15:34.000 They've been saying it for years.

01:15:36.000 Separate kids from the parents.

01:15:38.000 They have NAMBLA, you know, the North American Man Boy Love Association, other organizations in Europe that I've hunted.

01:15:44.000 They have literature that teach the pedophile how to separate parents from kids.

01:15:49.000 How to get them alone, or how to even groom the parent to become friendly with them.

01:15:54.000 So, I mean, these are pedo-tactics.

01:15:58.000 So, we didn't actually get into it, and I see someone, we got a super chat, someone was asking, Mike Spencer, why did it take so long for this film to come out?

01:16:06.000 I mean, you said you started making it, what, eight years ago?

01:16:09.000 Eight years ago, that's when I met Tim Mallert.

01:16:11.000 Yeah, five years to get it released after that?

01:16:14.000 Well, actually, it was three years of writing the script.

01:16:17.000 It was two years of pre-production, production, and post-production.

01:16:21.000 So I finished the film three years ago.

01:16:24.000 And at that time it was owned by Fox, Fox Latin America.

01:16:27.000 But then Disney bought Fox.

01:16:29.000 So now the film was owned by Disney.

01:16:32.000 So I negotiated with him after they told me, this is not for us.

01:16:35.000 So it took us a year to rescue the rights of the film.

01:16:39.000 After I had the rights back, I knocked, you know, the doors of Netflix and Amazon and many others and they were not interested.

01:16:47.000 They said, this is not for us.

01:16:48.000 This is not for us.

01:16:49.000 This is not for us.

01:16:50.000 So for three years, until I was again, you have two options.

01:16:54.000 You give up, you don't give up.

01:16:56.000 And next thing you know, it was like, Tim, I mean, should we put this on YouTube for free?

01:17:02.000 I mean, we need to save children, but we need to raise awareness.

01:17:05.000 I mean, I was about to call my investors, like, hey, you know, we did everything, but it seems like someone doesn't want this movie to be in theaters.

01:17:12.000 And it's done.

01:17:14.000 Disney has it, they're like, the movie's done, and they go...

01:17:17.000 We don't want to go with that.

01:17:19.000 Actually, I went to Argentina because the new headquarters of Disney Latin America were in Argentina.

01:17:24.000 So I went there.

01:17:25.000 Very nice people.

01:17:26.000 I want to make something very clear.

01:17:29.000 When I say that Disney is trying to corrupt your children, I'm talking about the cupola, the elite,

01:17:35.000 the people who are very, very high level.

01:17:37.000 There's a lot of good people working in Disney, they just, they have no other options.

01:17:42.000 So I met very good people in Argentina and they saw the movie.

01:17:46.000 They told me, well, we need to have a meeting and I'll get back to you.

01:17:49.000 So I went back to Mexico.

01:17:50.000 Like a week later, they told me, this is not for us, this is not for Disney.

01:17:54.000 Okay, well, give it back to me.

01:17:55.000 Yeah, but you owe money to us right now.

01:17:59.000 I know, but you promised me, well, not you, but Fox promised me that they were going to do a documentary and a TV series.

01:18:05.000 Well, we're not going to do that.

01:18:06.000 Okay, well, let's negotiate.

01:18:08.000 So, one year negotiating until finally, a lot of things happened, but, you know, okay, well, here's your movie.

01:18:14.000 So when I got the movie back, I was like, OK, so Tim, what should we do?

01:18:17.000 You know, well, Netflix.

01:18:18.000 OK, well, let's go to Netflix.

01:18:19.000 I don't know, I sent like a hundred messages.

01:18:23.000 I know people that they know, the CEO of Netflix and everything, and they try and they try and they try and nothing, nothing, nothing until I just, you know what?

01:18:30.000 I don't want to force something.

01:18:31.000 Maybe God has a different plan.

01:18:33.000 And he did.

01:18:34.000 And so, what I did in Mexico at that time, because Alejandro was calling me.

01:18:40.000 He was Alejandro Monteverde, my business partner, the director of the film.

01:18:43.000 He said, Eduardo, the kids cannot wait any longer.

01:18:45.000 We need to do something.

01:18:46.000 We cannot wait until this revision happens.

01:18:49.000 And that's when I had this idea of, why don't we do a tour in Mexico?

01:18:52.000 Where we invite every governor of each state to host a screening, to invite all the leaders from every single sector of our society in each state, and then we show the movie to a thousand people, and then at the end we sign an agreement where we commit to end child trafficking in that state.

01:19:08.000 And we did like 20 states, and I was about to finish the other 12 states when I received the phone call from Angel Studios.

01:19:15.000 And here we are, you know.

01:19:17.000 Again, I'm living, we're living this beautiful dream, man.

01:19:20.000 I mean, I'm just, we're broken souls and when you, the feeling of knowing that you're being used by God to save children.

01:19:29.000 I mean, I've been crying every day, brother.

01:19:32.000 I feel like it's more than that.

01:19:33.000 We've seen, you mentioned Disney.

01:19:36.000 I boycotted Disney a long time ago.

01:19:39.000 So, when Disney Plus comes out, I buy the year plan.

01:19:43.000 And then, I think it was when Mulan came out, they thanked the security forces who are holding Uyghur Muslims in concentration camps. 0.90

01:19:51.000 And people are furious about it.

01:19:52.000 I mean, the stories are coming out of there horrifying.

01:19:53.000 I said, I'm done with Disney Plus.

01:19:55.000 I'm not going to sign back up for it.

01:19:57.000 I haven't.

01:19:58.000 I'm not going to.

01:19:59.000 I think it's more than just saving kids.

01:20:01.000 That's the immediate.

01:20:02.000 But also understand the cultural ramifications of a successful film to this degree.

01:20:08.000 Who do you think got fired at Disney?

01:20:10.000 Somebody turned this film down and now someone's saying $54 million in 10 days?

01:20:16.000 What did we do?

01:20:17.000 Actually, you know what happened?

01:20:19.000 I just got a phone call today and someone told me, hey, did you read this article where Disney is denying that they used to own the rights of the film?

01:20:28.000 I said, well, I have the contract.

01:20:30.000 I mean, I have two contracts, actually, signed by them, so should I put that on my Twitter?

01:20:34.000 Well, we should, so I'm going to put that, because now they're lying.

01:20:37.000 Can you imagine?

01:20:38.000 They're denying that they used to own this film.

01:20:40.000 They don't want to look.

01:20:41.000 They're humiliated, because can you imagine?

01:20:44.000 This is like the Goliath, David and Goliath, right?

01:20:46.000 We're the little David here fighting this big monster who is corrupting your children.

01:20:52.000 Son of Freedom wants to save your children, And then the only message we gave to the people, thanks be to God for the media who are supporting us like you guys, this is what we said.

01:21:06.000 A. In order for us to be David, we need you.

01:21:09.000 So if we all come together as one voice, we can be that David that will defeat Goliath.

01:21:14.000 If that happens, we know the end of the story.

01:21:18.000 We defeated Goliath, at least, on July 4th.

01:21:20.000 And you know what happened normally?

01:21:22.000 The first week of the film, let's say you have 2,000 theaters, right?

01:21:26.000 The second week, you go to 1,500 theaters, and then 500 theaters, and then you die, right?

01:21:32.000 So this is the opposite.

01:21:34.000 The second week we have 400 theaters more and I just heard that we have three more hundred theaters.

01:21:40.000 So this thing is growing and growing because of the people are, and you know why too, the people are very generous.

01:21:46.000 When they go to angel.com slash freedom, People can buy tickets for themselves, for their family, but they can buy through Pay It Forward to other people, other families that they cannot afford to go to bring their family to the theaters.

01:22:01.000 And because of their generosity, these other people can see the film for free.

01:22:05.000 That is changing the entire, you know, I mean, we're breaking the establishment, brother.

01:22:11.000 I just, I hope that there's some executive or some like mid-level guy who is like, we don't want to do this film.

01:22:16.000 The media says that it's a faith-based film or whatever, a conservative, and I'm like, I don't understand.

01:22:21.000 It's because you didn't why the film was done Five years angel three is angel.com slash freedom. Yes

01:22:29.000 I'm gonna I'm gonna pay a thousand bucks for this. This is the funny thing to the other

01:22:34.000 Nation man the media says that it's a faith-based film or whatever a conservative and I'm like, I don't understand

01:22:42.000 I used to watch Law & Order SVU all the time I'm like this is just like if you took if you made a movie

01:22:47.000 that was like in a similar fashion They say, you know, sexual crimes are considered especially heinous.

01:22:52.000 Dun dun, law and order.

01:22:53.000 That show was on the air for decades.

01:22:55.000 People love it.

01:22:56.000 This film, it's like in the same genre.

01:22:59.000 It's a drama, thriller, crime, law enforcement.

01:23:02.000 It's like Life is Beautiful.

01:23:03.000 Can you imagine saying Life is Beautiful is a Jewish film?

01:23:06.000 No, you never say that.

01:23:07.000 Or Schindler's List, one of my favorite films, you know, especially when he talks about this list is life.

01:23:14.000 This is the same thing.

01:23:15.000 Sound of Freedom is live.

01:23:17.000 Angel Studios had a trailer in the beginning of the movie that was like a sci-fi movie.

01:23:21.000 I'm like, good. I want Angel Studios to succeed. I want them to make more films.

01:23:26.000 They're not overtly like... it's not like every movie is in some way got this through line of religion or anything.

01:23:35.000 It's for everyone.

01:23:36.000 It's a part of the story.

01:23:37.000 It's a true story.

01:23:38.000 I mean... You know what I like, though?

01:23:40.000 It's like the subtlety of the light versus the subtlety of the dark.

01:23:44.000 Hollywood has the subtlety of darkness in a lot of what they do.

01:23:47.000 Weird, creepy things you might notice in the background that you don't want your kids to know.

01:23:51.000 You don't want your kids to watch or ask questions about.

01:23:54.000 You know, they've got in, I think it was Blue's Clues, there was a beaver with mastectomy scars.

01:24:00.000 And now by all means, if you want to talk about cancer survivors and how they have mastectomy, we get that, right?

01:24:06.000 We're compassionate.

01:24:07.000 But to show...

01:24:08.000 A beaver, in this way, we know it wasn't about cancer survivor because they'd be wearing a shirt.

01:24:14.000 Yes.

01:24:14.000 It was about giving these gender ideology ideas to little kids without you noticing.

01:24:19.000 That's the subtlety of darkness.

01:24:20.000 Angel Studios can make a sci-fi film that's not overly religious or whatever thing, but then there's subtlety of light in those films.

01:24:27.000 So if all they're doing is making movies that's entertaining, we're winning.

01:24:30.000 I said this about the Daily Wire, why I'm excited to see them succeed.

01:24:34.000 They make a movie that's a Western.

01:24:37.000 It's not a conservative film, it's just a film.

01:24:38.000 And I'm like, that's what needs to happen.

01:24:40.000 Because if the bare minimum of what we do is we end the weird subtlety of darkness and this erosion, and we just course correct and start working towards things that inspire people to be more virtuous or moral, we're winning.

01:24:52.000 You said the word inspired.

01:24:53.000 Media influence how people think.

01:24:55.000 You know, what's the average percentage between parents and children having meaningful conversations every day in America?

01:25:00.000 And I think now it's in the whole world, three to six minutes a day.

01:25:03.000 But in front of the media, social media, movies, videos, radio, whatever, more than 10 hours a day.

01:25:09.000 So who is educating their children?

01:25:10.000 It's not parents, neither schools, it's the media.

01:25:13.000 So media, I mean, it's good or bad, whatever.

01:25:15.000 It's just, it's just a mean, you know, how you use it is what changed everything, right?

01:25:19.000 So Art has the power to change people's hearts.

01:25:22.000 Plato said, if I have to choose between art or politics to govern a nation, he said I would choose art, because art has the power to touch people's hearts and change their minds, therefore how they think, how they live, how they behave.

01:25:34.000 So this is powerful.

01:25:35.000 Media influences how people think.

01:25:38.000 And young people, they have this tendency to imitate art.

01:25:42.000 When they go and see the movie, they imitate what they see.

01:25:45.000 So can you imagine if we just lead by example?

01:25:48.000 That's why Tim Ballard in the movie, Gene Caviezel, he speaks very little.

01:25:52.000 Everything is just actions, actions, actions, because action speaks a thousand words, right?

01:25:57.000 And our hope is that when people see this movie, Sound of Freedom, they will live not only entertained, but they will live inspired, wanting to love more, wanting to forgive more, wanting to become the best version of yourself.

01:26:08.000 The best version of yourself.

01:26:09.000 Wanting to become more like Tim Ballard, you know?

01:26:11.000 This is a true hero.

01:26:12.000 This is not like Superman or Spider-Man, you know?

01:26:15.000 This is about a true hero, and we all can become heroes.

01:26:17.000 We are called to be heroes, actually.

01:26:19.000 And my goal as a filmmaker is that when people leave the theater, they will love to become ambassadors of freedom.

01:26:26.000 And I hope they will ask the same question I asked myself eight years ago.

01:26:30.000 What can I do to end this?

01:26:31.000 I want to join the army.

01:26:32.000 I want to join the army.

01:26:34.000 And I think we have an army of more than 5 million people now in America.

01:26:37.000 This is amazing.

01:26:38.000 You know what I do hope?

01:26:39.000 I hope you guys get $50 million penthouses with infinity pools, a couple Corvettes, some Ferraris, some Lamborghinis.

01:26:49.000 You know why?

01:26:49.000 I hope.

01:26:50.000 And I genuinely mean this.

01:26:52.000 Who deserves luxury more than those who are doing good to benefit the world?

01:26:56.000 Is it the celebrity or the music, you know?

01:26:59.000 I've always thought this when I was younger, like, why is it that a firefighter gets paid a lower salary but a baseball player is a multi-millionaire?

01:26:59.000 No.

01:27:06.000 And so, of course, I'm being a bit facetious and I don't really expect you guys to buy those things, but I hope that The younger generation sees success of this movie, the millions of dollars, they see the movement, and they think the path to success is being a good, moral person who fights for the betterment of the world.

01:27:24.000 And I want Tim Ballard to roll up in a nice car with a nice suit and the kids to be like, how do I be like him?

01:27:29.000 It's like, oh, you save children's lives.

01:27:31.000 Instead, what do we get?

01:27:33.000 You know, be hard, be street, be a celebrity, make songs about lewd and lascivious behaviors.

01:27:39.000 We gotta switch that around.

01:27:40.000 You know, Ben Shapiro famously rapping, you know, that song, WAP.

01:27:44.000 We won't get into it.

01:27:47.000 Sam Smith doing the satanic dances.

01:27:50.000 How do we shift that to the guy walking on stage with the nice suit and the gold chains is the guy who saves children for a living?

01:27:56.000 Well, thank you for that, but at the same time, you may agree with me, you may not agree with me, but I have to say it, and that's how I feel.

01:28:06.000 Mother Teresa said we are not called to be successful.

01:28:08.000 We are called to be faithful to God.

01:28:10.000 That is our success.

01:28:12.000 Now, if by being faithful to God, by being faithful to our values, success comes, it's a blessing.

01:28:17.000 Thanks be to God.

01:28:18.000 Let's use that success to make a difference in people's lives.

01:28:21.000 Because you know what?

01:28:22.000 We're going to die one day.

01:28:24.000 Life is too short, brother.

01:28:26.000 And we're taking nothing, nothing with us, except for our actions.

01:28:30.000 Nothing's wrong with success, as long as you don't compromise your values.

01:28:33.000 But if success doesn't come after being faithful, never compromise.

01:28:36.000 Never compromise.

01:28:37.000 It's not worth it.

01:28:38.000 Beauty does not come from outward adornment.

01:28:40.000 We have a big advantage in this culture war.

01:28:44.000 And that is, I think, a higher degree of selflessness.

01:28:47.000 The left has collectivism.

01:28:48.000 They fall in line, they march in lockstep.

01:28:51.000 But if a movie like this, and the profits from it go towards the mission, and expanding that mission, that's something they don't have.

01:28:57.000 Exactly.

01:28:58.000 These people, many of these leftists are virtue signalers, they'll say whatever they have to say just to make money for themselves so they can buy themselves a mansion.

01:29:04.000 If the money generated from people seeing this movie doesn't go towards Lamborghinis and infinity pools, and in fact goes towards making more culture building, making more movies, inspiring more people to do better, That passion and that drive and that mission is something they don't have.

01:29:20.000 Because this is a mission.

01:29:21.000 Exactly what you just said.

01:29:23.000 This is not just... This is a movement.

01:29:24.000 This is a mission.

01:29:25.000 This is a vision.

01:29:26.000 This is like our... I mean, we made a promise that we would dedicate our entire life to child trafficking and this is not gonna be, you know, ended with one movie.

01:29:35.000 This is just the beginning.

01:29:36.000 You know when the movie starts, brother?

01:29:38.000 The movie starts for the people when the movie finished.

01:29:44.000 That's the beginning of the movement when the film finished.

01:29:47.000 That's how I felt when I saw it.

01:29:49.000 Like I was like a different person.

01:29:50.000 It was hard to watch kinda.

01:29:52.000 I was like breaking apart.

01:29:53.000 And then I was rebuilt at the end.

01:29:56.000 I really want to thank Jim Caviezel, man.

01:29:58.000 I wouldn't talk about him for a second, because he deserved that.

01:30:03.000 You said earlier, he didn't have a lot of lines.

01:30:05.000 And I noticed that, and it was his eyes, man.

01:30:06.000 You can see his brain.

01:30:07.000 The eyes are connected to the brain.

01:30:09.000 Did you spend a lot of time with him?

01:30:11.000 Yeah, we did.

01:30:12.000 We're super good friends, and he spent time with me.

01:30:15.000 And Alejandro said something in the beginning.

01:30:17.000 He says, whoever plays this role, Has to say way more with his eyes than he does with his mouth.

01:30:22.000 That was before Jim even agreed.

01:30:24.000 And that's exactly what Caviezel pulls off.

01:30:26.000 That was his idea, this crazy Tim Buttard.

01:30:30.000 Because I was thinking about someone else, you know, someone that looks like him, younger and everything.

01:30:33.000 And when I asked him, brother, 20 people passed, so who do you want to play you?

01:30:37.000 And he looked at me and he said, Jesus Christ.

01:30:40.000 Brother, come on, I'm not kidding.

01:30:42.000 He's too expensive.

01:30:44.000 No, I'm talking about the guy who played Jesus Christ in The Passion of Christ of Mel Gibson.

01:30:48.000 Oh, man, I thought for a second you went crazy.

01:30:50.000 And do you know him?

01:30:51.000 Yeah, I know him.

01:30:52.000 Because he's brave.

01:30:52.000 But why him?

01:30:55.000 He's a godly man.

01:30:56.000 And I know he's going to be an actor who is not going to be coming here You know, play the role, go to the premiere, and then next movie.

01:31:04.000 He will stay with us until the end, right?

01:31:07.000 So I text him, I say, brother, I have something for you.

01:31:09.000 When can I see you?

01:31:11.000 In two hours, in this coffee.

01:31:12.000 So Alejandro and I went to meet with him.

01:31:14.000 We pitched the story to him, and he starts crying.

01:31:16.000 He said, brother, this is too personal to me.

01:31:18.000 And he shared a very personal story.

01:31:21.000 And I was like, wow, OK, this is your story, brother.

01:31:23.000 I mean, this is it.

01:31:25.000 So the next day, he calls me, and he tells me, I have good news and a challenge.

01:31:29.000 What is the good news?

01:31:30.000 I'm in.

01:31:31.000 That's it.

01:31:32.000 Tell Tim Ballard, tell Alejandro that I'm in.

01:31:34.000 What is the bad news?

01:31:35.000 What is the challenge?

01:31:36.000 Well, you know, my wife saw Narcos Colombia on Netflix and she's afraid for me to go to Colombia to film this movie.

01:31:42.000 Oh man, I hated that because, you know, again, media influence how people think.

01:31:46.000 Latinos, we have been stereotyped in a very negative way since the footage on Tuesday.

01:31:51.000 And a lot of people here in this country, they think Latinos, we are a threat to the democracy of this country because they think that we are what they see on film or television, all the negative stereotypes.

01:32:00.000 So, and these TV series, they do a lot of damage.

01:32:04.000 And here you have this Gene Caviezel's wife saying he's not going to Colombia.

01:32:08.000 I said, well, hold on a second.

01:32:09.000 Let me just call Tim Butler.

01:32:10.000 I'll call you right back.

01:32:11.000 Tim, I have good news and bad news, brother.

01:32:13.000 Good news, Gene Caviezel is in.

01:32:15.000 Bad news, his wife saw Narcos Colombia on Netflix and she doesn't want him to go there.

01:32:19.000 What can we do?

01:32:20.000 And he's thinking and thinking.

01:32:21.000 He said, tell them if 30 ex-Navy SEALs, 30 ex-Navy SEALs will be enough to protect him.

01:32:28.000 I called them.

01:32:28.000 I passed a message.

01:32:29.000 Green light!

01:32:30.000 We're in Colombia filming, right?

01:32:31.000 But look what happened.

01:32:33.000 30 of these guys were on set.

01:32:34.000 A week later, half of them are not on set anymore.

01:32:38.000 And I'm like, okay, I'm not going to say anything.

01:32:39.000 As a producer, I know who's on set.

01:32:41.000 We have 200 people, extras, actors, whatever, you know?

01:32:44.000 And I noticed that half of them were not there.

01:32:47.000 So, One month and a half later, I'm reading this local newspaper from Colombia that it says that the federal police arrested some traffickers and rescued more than 200 children in Cartagena, Colombia, who were kidnapped for sexual exploitation.

01:33:02.000 And more details, like in the movie, very similar story to the movie.

01:33:04.000 So I run to see Tim Ballard and I said, brother, look, like in the movie.

01:33:08.000 And he smiled and he said, that was us.

01:33:10.000 What?

01:33:11.000 That was us.

01:33:12.000 Half of the guys who were not on set, they were walking on the Cartagena streets on Saturday, and these people came and approached them.

01:33:18.000 Hey amigo, gringo, you want señoritas? 0.98

01:33:21.000 Young ladies, how many you want? 1.00

01:33:22.000 They thought they were tourists looking for action, right?

01:33:24.000 Wow.

01:33:25.000 Next thing you know, they didn't know that these guys were experts on rescue children, right?

01:33:28.000 So they say, well, can I call you tomorrow?

01:33:31.000 Because there's more Americans coming and we need more girls. 1.00

01:33:35.000 Do you have like really young girls?

01:33:36.000 Brother, we have everything you need.

01:33:38.000 Okay, we have chickens. 0.67

01:33:39.000 Chickens means like very little boys and girls, right? 0.51

01:33:42.000 So anyway, so they rescue these children.

01:33:46.000 They started this undercover operation with the help of the police, Columbia police.

01:33:51.000 So I'm thinking like, hold on a second.

01:33:52.000 While you're filming the movie?

01:33:53.000 Yes!

01:33:55.000 I mean, the second week, brother, of filming, half of these guys were rescuing 200 children, and I'm thinking, wait a second.

01:34:02.000 Thank God for Gene Caviezel's wife, who said no in the beginning. 0.98

01:34:05.000 Because of that no, he was inspired, Tim Butler, to bring Teddy, ex-Navy SEALs, and because of those Teddy, ex-Navy SEALs, half of them rescued 200 children before the film was even finished.

01:34:14.000 Sound of Freedom 2.

01:34:16.000 I mean, this is...

01:34:16.000 Can you imagine?

01:34:19.000 Brother, I'm just, there's so many miracles.

01:34:21.000 I remember saying this, I was in tears.

01:34:25.000 Let's focus on this film first.

01:34:27.000 I'm in tears, I'm crying.

01:34:29.000 I mean the story just wrote itself, that's amazing.

01:34:31.000 I'm telling Tim, brother, even if this film Never see the light.

01:34:36.000 Even if tomorrow there's an earthquake and the entire film is buried, right?

01:34:42.000 The fact that we were used to save 200 children, it's all worth it, man.

01:34:47.000 I can die in peace.

01:34:49.000 Never imagine that eight years later, 5 million people are watching this film in America.

01:34:54.000 I mean, if this is not the American dream for me, for a Mexican filmmaker who moved to this country 20 years ago without speaking English, I'm hugging the American dream.

01:34:54.000 Come on!

01:35:03.000 I'm so grateful to this nation for opening the door to my dreams.

01:35:06.000 God bless this wonderful nation.

01:35:07.000 God bless America.

01:35:08.000 God bless Mexico.

01:35:09.000 Let's make Mexico and America free again. 0.99

01:35:13.000 We're going to go to Super Chats, but do you want to give one more question?

01:35:13.000 Yeah, let's.

01:35:15.000 Does Jim's wife know that she inspired them?

01:35:17.000 Of course, man.

01:35:18.000 Are you kidding me?

01:35:19.000 I mean, she saved 200 children just by that note.

01:35:22.000 By her concern for her husband.

01:35:24.000 She said yes, and later 200 children are free.

01:35:27.000 Maybe the reason she had that feeling that she needed people there wasn't so much to protect Jim, but because something was calling her to send in the troops to save his kids.

01:35:35.000 That's how God works.

01:35:36.000 We don't understand the beginning.

01:35:37.000 Why?

01:35:38.000 Bad news?

01:35:40.000 That bad news was the best news ever.

01:35:42.000 It seems, stories like this, they seem impossible.

01:35:45.000 They seem like miracles, but they happen.

01:35:48.000 Let's read Super Chats.

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01:36:11.000 We have to have this gate to keep out nefarious actors who want to come in and screw with us, and then we have a screening process.

01:36:17.000 And I do want to be honest, at this point, many of the callers may have already been chosen, so I don't want to, you know, get your hopes up if you've not signed up yet, but come and watch the Members Only After Show, which will be up in about 25 minutes, but for now, we'll read your Super Chats.

01:36:30.000 Let's grab... I want to try and find the best superchats directly asking questions of you guys so we can get into that. 1.00

01:36:36.000 Spencer Jones says, Tim, I met you a few years ago via Marisol Nichols.

01:36:40.000 Been donating to OUR ever since.

01:36:42.000 Keep it up.

01:36:43.000 God bless.

01:36:44.000 Not sure if you know who that is.

01:36:47.000 Well, Marisol Nichols is one of my best friends.

01:36:49.000 She's an actress. 1.00

01:36:51.000 If you watch Riverdale, No, I know of it.

01:36:54.000 Yeah, she's a very successful actress and she actually done undercover work with us as an actor. 0.63

01:36:59.000 I mean, undercover operators are first and foremost actors, right?

01:37:03.000 And she's phenomenal. 0.96

01:37:05.000 She's rescued dozens and dozens of kids using her undercover skills.

01:37:10.000 So thank you.

01:37:10.000 Thanks for mentioning Marisol and thanks for your support.

01:37:13.000 Shadow's Hand says, I saw Sound of Freedom earlier today.

01:37:16.000 Thank you, Tim B, for your continued efforts on that front.

01:37:18.000 Definitely a film everyone needs to see.

01:37:20.000 How can one join your cause in person in Operation Underground Railroad?

01:37:25.000 Check out the website info at OUIRescue.org and send in your resume.

01:37:31.000 But you did step down.

01:37:31.000 Are you still involved in any way?

01:37:33.000 I'm still the founder, always the founder.

01:37:34.000 I'll always support and send money.

01:37:38.000 Oh, the website name again?

01:37:39.000 OURrescue.org.

01:37:41.000 But yeah, I stepped down from both, in any official capacity.

01:37:44.000 I just, like I said, I want to help the whole cause, all the organizations.

01:37:51.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:37:53.000 I'm taking my time because I'm trying to find good questions pertaining to the film.

01:37:58.000 And Eric CK asked early on, Tim Ballard, you're a true hero.

01:38:03.000 What do you know about the human trafficking in Ukraine?

01:38:05.000 I know we did mention it a little bit.

01:38:06.000 Yeah.

01:38:06.000 I don't know if there's anything else to elaborate on there.

01:38:08.000 Well, I'll say this.

01:38:09.000 The docu-series called Hidden War, you can check out the trailer actually online.

01:38:12.000 Just Google DNA Films Hidden War.

01:38:17.000 It's an amazing trailer.

01:38:19.000 Mel Gibson's involved with that.

01:38:21.000 Tony Robbins is a producer.

01:38:23.000 And you're going to see a crazy story, a four-part series early next year, Hidden War.

01:38:27.000 Check it out.

01:38:28.000 Alright, uh, what is it?

01:38:30.000 Spoon Stealing Irishman says, I'm under your house. 1.00

01:38:33.000 I'm in your walls.

01:38:34.000 I cannot be stopped.

01:38:35.000 I will not stop.

01:38:35.000 That's the problem.

01:38:36.000 Your spoons were just the beginning.

01:38:37.000 Soon I will take your host chair and the endgame will be in motion.

01:38:40.000 Do you see this?

01:38:41.000 My hands are right here.

01:38:42.000 There's no way I could have possibly typed that.

01:38:43.000 This exonerates me.

01:38:45.000 No, hold on a second.

01:38:46.000 He stole ten spoons like four days ago.

01:38:48.000 That's not true.

01:38:49.000 I have been falsely accused of stealing spoons from this man and hiding them under his house.

01:38:53.000 It's nonsense.

01:38:54.000 Listen, you guys know me.

01:38:55.000 You know I wouldn't do that.

01:38:56.000 You know I wouldn't do something like that. 0.98

01:38:59.000 This is ridiculous. 0.97

01:38:59.000 I'm being maligned. 0.97

01:39:02.000 Smeared by the liberal press once again.

01:39:06.000 Let's grab some Super Chat.

01:39:07.000 Saddle F'ing Tramp says, I've been donating monthly since I heard of Tim Ballad and OUR.

01:39:13.000 Seven years now.

01:39:14.000 Tim, you are doing the Lord's work.

01:39:15.000 One question.

01:39:17.000 Who does Tim walk around with those massive steel anchors he has?

01:39:21.000 How does he?

01:39:22.000 Hahaha.

01:39:23.000 That's a good one.

01:39:25.000 Yeah, I have to ask though, did you really infiltrate a Colombian rebel camp?

01:39:30.000 Okay, so we did a podcast on this as well.

01:39:34.000 So the original script had it where we actually did go and it was a camp that was all sorts of kids, slave, sex trafficking.

01:39:45.000 It looked very much like that.

01:39:46.000 It was not in Columbia.

01:39:48.000 It was in another place on the border between Dominican Republic and Haiti.

01:39:53.000 We were accosted with men with guns, gangsters and machetes.

01:39:58.000 I didn't go by myself and, you know, you've never given me problems.

01:40:03.000 Some of your executive producers are like, don't ruin the illusion!

01:40:06.000 Oh, no, no, that's why we say base it on a true story.

01:40:08.000 I said I'll always be honest, I'll always be honest.

01:40:10.000 It's a true story because again, when you have someone like him who does rescue missions

01:40:15.000 every two weeks, man, he's telling you like a hundred stories and the challenge is that

01:40:23.000 you have two hours.

01:40:24.000 It's like, brother, there's so many elements.

01:40:26.000 I need to bring elements of every single rescue mission so we can tell one story.

01:40:32.000 But in reality, it's more dangerous what this guy is going through.

01:40:40.000 The movie, I mean... This is a poetry, what Alejandro wrote.

01:40:45.000 It's a poetry with a lot of light and darkness, you know, fighting light and dark with the music and everything.

01:40:52.000 The innocence and the purity of the children, the actors on set, were like... These kids, they never knew what this film is about.

01:40:58.000 The parents were there.

01:40:59.000 It was a family environment.

01:41:03.000 Except for the one little girl, you've got to tell that story.

01:41:05.000 Yeah, but that was an accident, brother.

01:41:06.000 I know, but you've got to tell that story because it's beautiful.

01:41:07.000 Well, you know, this is what happened.

01:41:09.000 So we have the parents of the children, the children on this island, and we have like these two coaches.

01:41:16.000 They were like the acting teachers, right?

01:41:18.000 So Alejandro was communicating with them and with their parents to get the emotions.

01:41:22.000 But that day, The two teachers, you know, they had to go somewhere else, so they sent a new teacher, a new coach, and Alejandro didn't know about that, the director.

01:41:33.000 So, next thing you know, we're doing a very important scene, which is, you know, the scene where they close the curtains.

01:41:38.000 I don't want to say a lot, you know, because I don't want to spoil this, but anyway, she's supposed to be crying because before that scene, she was abused, sexually abused by an adult, right?

01:41:52.000 So then, OK, well, let's let's film.

01:41:55.000 So Alejandro talked to the coach.

01:41:57.000 So I just want her to cry a little bit.

01:41:59.000 It's going to be just five seconds, 10 seconds.

01:42:01.000 And that's it.

01:42:02.000 It's going to be a very simple scene.

01:42:03.000 And that's it.

01:42:04.000 OK, right.

01:42:06.000 We start filming.

01:42:08.000 First take, Alejandro's like, wow, we have it.

01:42:10.000 Cut.

01:42:11.000 Alejandro's walking to rehearse for the next scene and he noticed that she's still crying.

01:42:15.000 And she's still crying.

01:42:16.000 Alejandro called, you know, he called the coach.

01:42:21.000 Why is she still crying? 0.98

01:42:23.000 Oh, you told me that you needed like the emotions.

01:42:25.000 Yeah, but this is like 30 minutes later, she's still crying. 0.99

01:42:29.000 What happened?

01:42:30.000 Well, I have to tell her that what happened to her, you know, and what?

01:42:34.000 Oh, what do you mean?

01:42:35.000 So she told her.

01:42:37.000 that she was abused before. She never heard about these things ever in her life.

01:42:41.000 Wow.

01:42:42.000 She cried for days. We couldn't fire that teacher only because we were in this island where if we

01:42:48.000 fire her we don't have a coaching for the kids for the next scenes, right? But man,

01:42:54.000 we got very angry because that was the number one rule.

01:42:58.000 The children cannot know what this film is about because we cannot put thoughts in their minds.

01:43:03.000 We need to protect their innocence and their purity on set.

01:43:06.000 It's like if my son is in a movie like this, I want to be with him.

01:43:09.000 I want to read the script.

01:43:12.000 I want to talk to the director.

01:43:13.000 I want to make sure that his innocence and purity is intact, right?

01:43:17.000 And it was just an accident here, but that scene, when you see that scene, when you see the film again, because when you watch this film for the second time and the third time it's even better.

01:43:26.000 I have seen the film like a thousand times as a producer and I cry like every single time and it speaks to me in a different way.

01:43:32.000 But that scene breaks my heart because I know, I know what happened.

01:43:35.000 It was one take and that's what they used.

01:43:37.000 Is that the main girl? 0.98

01:43:38.000 The main girl.

01:43:40.000 She's amazing.

01:43:40.000 But when you, when you watch that scene again.

01:43:42.000 In the top.

01:43:43.000 Go back and see the movie again just for that scene and you're realizing you're seeing a real emotion.

01:43:48.000 Real, real emotion of a little girl who just found out what she wasn't supposed to know of the role she was actually playing.

01:43:55.000 Let's read this one.

01:43:56.000 Adolfo says, Tim Ballard, what are your thoughts on the 85,000 kids missing from the USA custody at the border?

01:44:03.000 Do you believe that a significant portion of those children are being trafficked?

01:44:06.000 I absolutely do.

01:44:07.000 I spent 10 years on that border, and what the cartels make $14 million a day, they take these kids.

01:44:13.000 Health and Human Services policy, they have to get the kids within like 24 hours once they're there.

01:44:16.000 85,000 unaccompanied.

01:44:19.000 CBP tells us that thousands of them were under five years old.

01:44:23.000 What they do is they deliver them to Health and Human Services.

01:44:27.000 The little kids come with a name.

01:44:28.000 Sometimes it's a safety pin to their shirts or in their pockets, and the name's the sponsor.

01:44:32.000 George Smith for the phone number.

01:44:34.000 They call that number.

01:44:35.000 Hey, we have a little Jose Gonzalez here.

01:44:38.000 Oh yeah, yeah, send him to this address.

01:44:39.000 They used to have to go pick him up.

01:44:41.000 And it's easier to adopt a cat out of a shelter than it is to come down and take one of these kids out of the custody of the U.S.

01:44:49.000 government.

01:44:50.000 But now your taxpayer dollars will send the child by plane or bus.

01:44:56.000 In what will likely be, or many times at least, be the very last leg of a child trafficking event.

01:45:02.000 Can you imagine this?

01:45:03.000 Imagine if a little child was found in New York City, or I don't care where, DC, Salt Lake City.

01:45:09.000 That child would be treated like a precious thing that it is.

01:45:13.000 You're not going to deliver that kid to any person who shows up.

01:45:16.000 There'll be background checks, DNA tests, documents.

01:45:19.000 Whole thing.

01:45:20.000 And yet we're not affording the same thing to foreign kids.

01:45:22.000 They like to call Trump, like, careless or doesn't care about the foreign kids or whatever.

01:45:26.000 Well, what are you doing?

01:45:27.000 You care nothing about these kids to let them be released without any kind of background check just to whoever claims them.

01:45:34.000 And that's the reality of what's going on.

01:45:36.000 And I'll remind you, the United States is the number one consumer of child sex material.

01:45:40.000 So it's not a safe place for kids to disappear.

01:45:43.000 My friend Jorge Ventura gave me this.

01:45:45.000 He was on the border.

01:45:46.000 It says Entregas. 0.95

01:45:47.000 There you go.

01:45:47.000 I know exactly what that is.

01:45:49.000 This is number 4,186.

01:45:50.000 Wrapped around a kid.

01:45:52.000 Kid's little wrist.

01:45:54.000 Unbelievable.

01:45:54.000 This is slavery.

01:45:55.000 This is branding for slavery.

01:45:58.000 To identify kids.

01:45:59.000 To count them and keep track of them.

01:46:01.000 Did you see the exchange with Senator Cruz and Secretary Mayorkas?

01:46:06.000 Senator Cruz brought these bracelets.

01:46:07.000 And Mayorkas says, I have no idea what you're talking about.

01:46:10.000 Wow.

01:46:11.000 I talked to Cruz later about it.

01:46:12.000 He said, I was shocked!

01:46:14.000 I thought for sure he was going to know about it and I was going to talk to him about it.

01:46:16.000 He's like, I don't even know what that is.

01:46:19.000 This is the brand of slavery.

01:46:20.000 This is the sign of slavery.

01:46:23.000 And I think the fake IDs too.

01:46:25.000 I think we have one of those.

01:46:26.000 Oh yeah.

01:46:27.000 What time is it right now, for example?

01:46:30.000 So what time we started this interview?

01:46:32.000 8.

01:46:33.000 So it's like almost two hours.

01:46:35.000 Almost, yeah.

01:46:37.000 Seven children disappeared in Mexico.

01:46:40.000 Right now, in this interview.

01:46:42.000 Every 20 minutes, one more, and then another one, and another one, and another one.

01:46:45.000 57 a day, 21,000 a year.

01:46:48.000 These are official numbers from the government.

01:46:51.000 I think that's a lot more.

01:46:55.000 I read a story out of, I think it was Austin, Texas.

01:46:58.000 It may have been further south.

01:47:00.000 And it was on Reddit.

01:47:02.000 Some woman said that she was at a bar with her boyfriend and two of their friends. 0.60

01:47:06.000 They were all drinking, having a good time.

01:47:07.000 They got pretty drunk.

01:47:08.000 And she's like, I think she said she was in her early 20s.

01:47:11.000 They walk outside and she's, I think what the story was that she was texting on her phone and her boyfriend and his two friends were about 10 feet in front of her laughing and you know, joking and stuff.

01:47:21.000 She's lagging behind when a car pulls up They pop the door open, run out, grab her, and try and pull her into the car. 0.99

01:47:26.000 She screams. 0.51

01:47:28.000 Her boyfriend and their friends run back, grab the door, grab her leg as the car tries speeding off, and they pull her out.

01:47:33.000 Wow.

01:47:34.000 And apparently there's tons of stories like this.

01:47:36.000 People don't realize because they don't make the press.

01:47:38.000 Well, like in the movie, we have real footage.

01:47:39.000 Real footage of that.

01:47:40.000 In the beginning of the movie, just like that.

01:47:41.000 And it's really horrifying, man.

01:47:44.000 Is it mostly just off the street?

01:47:46.000 Sorry to interrupt if you don't know.

01:47:47.000 No, it's like one of them is like kids are playing outside, a car pulls up, snatches a kid, and the other kids are just like, what do we do?

01:47:52.000 Yeah.

01:47:52.000 That's crazy, man.

01:47:53.000 Is it like the majority of the disappearances are kids just being snatched off the street, or is it?

01:47:57.000 Sometimes, but you know what?

01:47:58.000 Sometimes they just do it in your own house, you know?

01:48:01.000 Their innocence and their purity are being stolen forever when your kid is having a smartphone.

01:48:07.000 and start talking to strangers to another kid who is being kidnapped by someone else and they use him as a hook to connect with your child.

01:48:14.000 Next thing you know, they start... That happened to my niece in Mexico the other day. 0.99

01:48:17.000 My cousin calls me, Eduardo, your niece.

01:48:20.000 I mean, I've been following you and because of the whole movement now, I'm like more alert as a parent, you know?

01:48:25.000 And I noticed that she was acting weird, you know?

01:48:28.000 My daughter, she's eight years old, eight years old.

01:48:31.000 And she happens to be, for the last six months, she was talking to these strangers and she was sharing pictures of her, you know, of her body.

01:48:41.000 I mean, if she wouldn't caught her on time, God knows what next.

01:48:47.000 What will happen next, you know?

01:48:48.000 Meet me in the corner, you know?

01:48:50.000 So, I mean, the whole message of Sound of Freedom is for parents, too.

01:48:54.000 You need to pay attention to your children.

01:48:56.000 You need to protect your children.

01:49:00.000 You need to watch what they're watching.

01:49:02.000 You need to observe what they're watching on the internet.

01:49:04.000 There's apps out there where you can actually see what they're looking at, so you can control them.

01:49:11.000 presence because you know the other day my even my sister eight years ago when

01:49:16.000 she noticed that that she told me what's the next project and I said well you

01:49:20.000 know this move about child I don't I don't want to know I don't want to know

01:49:22.000 I don't want to know I said Daniela if if someone needs to know is you because

01:49:26.000 you have children and they are the target you need to know the more

01:49:29.000 information the more prevention what do you mean What do you mean?

01:49:33.000 And now she's like a lion, like she's like protecting her children. 0.61

01:49:36.000 She's a volunteer.

01:49:37.000 She's an ambassador of freedom.

01:49:38.000 So parents, they need to know that this is real.

01:49:41.000 This is not in Bangladesh, Thailand, you know, far away.

01:49:44.000 This is next door.

01:49:44.000 This is everywhere.

01:49:45.000 And it's growing because of child pornography.

01:49:48.000 You know, there's a lot of new clients because they get hooked with pornography.

01:49:52.000 Next thing you know, they're looking at child pornography.

01:49:54.000 Now they're addicted.

01:49:55.000 And now they want the real deal.

01:49:57.000 This is interesting.

01:49:58.000 Beatriz Arena says they have censored the movie in Colombia.

01:50:01.000 They won't allow it to show.

01:50:02.000 Have you heard that?

01:50:04.000 No, but we're going to show it.

01:50:05.000 After the success in United States, no one can stop this movement.

01:50:08.000 It's going to be in Mexico, August 31st, and then the rest of Latin America.

01:50:12.000 It's going to be everywhere.

01:50:13.000 No one can stop this.

01:50:15.000 It's too late.

01:50:16.000 The movement is growing big time.

01:50:18.000 Gigi Izzy asks, was making it PG-13 an intentional choice?

01:50:22.000 Because I absolutely love the fact that it's not too explicit and that it can reach a wider audience.

01:50:26.000 Yeah, of course, that was the whole goal.

01:50:27.000 We want everyone to watch this movie.

01:50:30.000 The integrity and the purity of the film is right there so everyone can see it and it can be digestible, you know?

01:50:37.000 The first part of the movie is the problem, the second part of the movie is the solution and the hope, because we want people to live with hope.

01:50:43.000 Yes, tears because this is real, but with hope.

01:50:46.000 Okay, I want to do something.

01:50:48.000 I want to join the army.

01:50:49.000 I will do something.

01:50:50.000 And again, as I said before, I hope they will ask themselves, what can I do?

01:50:55.000 Well, the first thing they need to do is just tell everyone what you saw in the movie.

01:50:58.000 Tell more people to go and see the movie because if the movie continue with this success,

01:51:02.000 then the media, secular media, mainstream media, everybody's obligated to talk about the success of the film.

01:51:08.000 More important about the topic of the film.

01:51:11.000 And then millions of people will hear about this, and then there's no more excuses of, oh, I didn't know.

01:51:15.000 Now you know.

01:51:17.000 What are you going to do about it?

01:51:18.000 Do you think that parents should bring their kids if they're 13 and up, or is that just like a parent by parent decision?

01:51:26.000 Thirteen up, I think they should because you're not going to see anything that you have to cover your eyes or you have to cover the eyes of your kid.

01:51:36.000 Nothing.

01:51:36.000 I make movies.

01:51:37.000 I made that promise to God one day and I made a promise to my mother and to my father 20 years ago when I promised together I would never use my talents to do anything that would offend my faith, my family, or my Latino culture.

01:51:47.000 After I made that promise I ended up not working for 4 years and I lost everything.

01:51:51.000 That's why I became a producer because as an actor I was tired of waiting for a role that would portray a man as a real man.

01:51:57.000 So I was led to open a production company so I could have the power to control the message.

01:52:01.000 And I told my mother, you know, I'm going to make a promise to you that every film that Alejandro Monteverdi and I will do, you don't have to cover your eyes in any scene.

01:52:11.000 You can watch everything.

01:52:13.000 And I've been, you know, faithful to that promise.

01:52:17.000 My first movie was Bella, then Little Boy, now Sound of Freedom.

01:52:21.000 And even this, Sound of Freedom movie, as hard as it is, as heavy as it is, it's a poetry

01:52:28.000 that everyone can see it and you don't have to cover your eyes in any scene.

01:52:31.000 Sweet Potato Night says, will there be a Blu-ray DVD, Sound of Freedom, Director's Cut, Extended Edition?

01:52:37.000 Eventually, yes.

01:52:38.000 Because you know, when COVID, when this plandemia, plandemic, I don't know how to say it in English.

01:52:43.000 Plandemic, that movie?

01:52:45.000 Plandemia, not when the COVID hit.

01:52:46.000 Oh, when COVID?

01:52:48.000 Pandemic.

01:52:48.000 Pandemic, yeah.

01:52:49.000 In Spanish we call it plandemia.

01:52:51.000 It was planned.

01:52:51.000 Anyway, it's a joke.

01:52:53.000 But when Theaters were closed, right?

01:52:57.000 Remember?

01:52:58.000 And then when they opened, the theaters was only 20%.

01:53:00.000 Yeah.

01:53:01.000 So we thought, forget about theaters.

01:53:04.000 Let's talk about, you know, platform release, right?

01:53:07.000 So the original cut was then two hours, 35 minutes, because you can launch movies like that in platforms and you don't have to like, you know, the one hour, 45 minutes or two hours rule for theaters.

01:53:18.000 So we have a cut that is one hour, I mean, two hours, 35 minutes, that is like a meditation, man.

01:53:24.000 It's a meditation.

01:53:26.000 And of course we want to launch that later.

01:53:28.000 I actually thought, I wondered if you were going to have it for streaming, like 10 bucks to download it from your website, but there was something special about being in the theater.

01:53:35.000 Jim even talked about it at the end of the movie.

01:53:37.000 I mean, I remember the vision of seeing the people in front of me as we're talking about it.

01:53:43.000 I can feel them.

01:53:43.000 You know why?

01:53:44.000 Because you have to understand, That's why movies are so amazing and so important when you are watching a movie in a theater.

01:53:51.000 This is a big room with a big screen.

01:53:54.000 It's all dark.

01:53:55.000 No distractions, no cell phones, no nothing.

01:53:57.000 And for two hours, you're going to open your heart and the director is going to tell you something.

01:54:01.000 That's why it's so dangerous, though.

01:54:02.000 Because when the director wants to manipulate you and give you the wrong message, it can have a huge impact in your life, too.

01:54:09.000 And then you leave confused.

01:54:11.000 But when you use it with truth, You change people's lives.

01:54:16.000 I mean, you inspire people.

01:54:19.000 That's my goal, to inspire people so they can leave the theater inspired.

01:54:23.000 Like, I want to become a hero.

01:54:26.000 And that's the most beautiful thing, when you hear testimonies of people like, your movie changed my life.

01:54:32.000 Your movie inspired me to protect my children.

01:54:35.000 I hug my children.

01:54:36.000 I want to spend more time with them.

01:54:40.000 It feels amazing, brother.

01:54:44.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:54:45.000 Let's see.

01:54:46.000 There's one we did.

01:54:48.000 Mike Spencer, shout out.

01:54:49.000 We did ask about why it took so long to make the movie, but that's your Super Chat, so we do appreciate it.

01:54:54.000 Atherin Zala says the movie was great and reminded me of Proof of Life.

01:54:57.000 I was wondering if you going into the jungle near the end of the film was true, and do you think that part might put doctors doing that in any danger?

01:55:06.000 So, we just addressed this a little bit, but I was thinking it would be a good chance to clarify.

01:55:12.000 The camp you did go to, first I guess, it was not in Columbia, you did go to a camp.

01:55:16.000 Did you go to more than one?

01:55:17.000 Was it a common thing you had done?

01:55:19.000 Yeah, that tactic's been used enough times that we won't use it again anyway.

01:55:27.000 There's certain places on the planet that you just can't... it's like the film depicts, you know, that you can't get into.

01:55:33.000 But I didn't go alone.

01:55:34.000 You know, I had several people with me, but we didn't pose as that.

01:55:40.000 Yeah, in terms of would that put doctors at risk because they think that they go in there, they think they might be...

01:55:47.000 Someone who's there to do them harm.

01:55:51.000 I mean, of course it's dangerous.

01:55:52.000 I mean, what we're doing is dangerous, too.

01:55:54.000 I mean, we don't have to go to the jungle.

01:55:56.000 What we're doing right now, just going into Mexico, showing this movie in 32 states, telling the people this is real and we're going to end it, is dangerous.

01:56:05.000 Because when you are confronting, when you're fighting with this more than $150 billion industry, That's not a small thing, right?

01:56:14.000 But you know what?

01:56:15.000 Yes, it's dangerous, but it's more dangerous not to do it in the long term.

01:56:19.000 And as I said before, we're going to die one day.

01:56:22.000 And you know what?

01:56:23.000 My prayer every day to God is, okay, when it's my time, when you knock at my door and it's time to go, please find me working for you.

01:56:35.000 And I feel that we're working for For God, by saving children.

01:56:39.000 That's why I always say God's children are not for sale and that's my motivation every day to wake up and to give my life for a cause, for a mission, for something that is bigger than myself.

01:56:49.000 Kim McKersie says, it ain't much Timbo, but please if possible forward these super chat funds to Tim Ballard's cause.

01:56:56.000 Thanks.

01:56:57.000 Uh, I'll one up that.

01:56:59.000 I will, I will donate all of the chat revenue to the, uh, to the Spear.

01:57:05.000 Is that the best way to put it?

01:57:07.000 And I'll put 10,000 towards the pay it forward for the film.

01:57:09.000 God bless you.

01:57:11.000 Thank you so much.

01:57:12.000 Easy, easy, easy, easy for me to do.

01:57:13.000 Easy for me to say.

01:57:13.000 It's not that, you know, I don't like we can do it.

01:57:15.000 We're going to do it.

01:57:16.000 Let me tell you why this is so important.

01:57:19.000 There's a lot of families that are listening to interviews that they have four children, five, five children.

01:57:25.000 They cannot afford to bring everyone to the experience because Sound of Freedom is cinematic, cinematic experience, right?

01:57:32.000 That you cannot see that on TV or on, on, on social media.

01:57:37.000 Film is different.

01:57:38.000 Film change your life, right?

01:57:40.000 So because of your generosity, your generosity, thousands of people will go and see the film for free.

01:57:50.000 And we're saving lives right there.

01:57:53.000 And the movement is growing, and more people in media are talking about the success of the film, so you put pressure.

01:58:00.000 We're going to show the movie on the 25th, brother, on the Capitol Hill.

01:58:04.000 Can you imagine that?

01:58:05.000 That's powerful because you're going to have Congress from both sides, Republicans and Democrats, right?

01:58:10.000 They're going to see the film and then a panel with Jim, Tim, and myself.

01:58:15.000 Can you imagine moving the hearts of the most important decision makers in the world who are living here in Washington D.C.?

01:58:21.000 This is a huge opportunity.

01:58:22.000 You know the only reason why they're doing that?

01:58:24.000 The only reason why they're doing that is because of the success of the film.

01:58:29.000 I mean, we can change the world if more people see this film.

01:58:34.000 We're competing with Mission Impossible right now.

01:58:37.000 And you know what?

01:58:38.000 As much as I like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible, That movie won't save lives.

01:58:45.000 Sound of Freedom is changing the culture, is saving lives, and is inspiring so many people to become ambassadors of freedom.

01:58:54.000 So thank you for your generosity, and I hope a lot of people that are listening to this interview, this podcast, they go right now, when this interview finishes, to angel.com slash freedom, angel.com slash freedom, and pay it forward so somebody else can see the movie for free because of your generosity.

01:59:11.000 I should have said this at the start of the show, but I will elaborate too.

01:59:15.000 So, the way it works, we have this meter here on YouTube that shows us the total amount of Super Chats that came in during the show.

01:59:22.000 What happens is YouTube takes 35%, we get the rest.

01:59:25.000 Forget the 35%. 1.00

01:59:26.000 The total number that's there, I'm going to donate to your organization, and then $10,000 towards the Pay It Forward for people to be able to watch this movie, to be able to go see it if they can.

01:59:35.000 You're going to love it.

01:59:36.000 And so, now everyone's dumping in the Super Chats, and that was the intended position.

01:59:40.000 So basically, I'll cover that 35% cut that YouTube takes to make sure the full amount of the chat revenue goes to your organization.

01:59:47.000 We're currently at $3,600.

01:59:50.000 We'll wrap up the show from here because we're going to go to the members-only portion of the show over at TimCast.com.

01:59:55.000 So as we're closing out, if you'd like to contribute to the Super Chats, I will immediately, as we're on the members-only, I will be making that contribution in the full amount of all of our Super Chat revenue, plus the donation to the movie.

02:00:06.000 We've been talking about doing this thing where we give $10,000 every month to someone engaged in a cultural effort that's going to be a positive impact.

02:00:14.000 I won't consider this that.

02:00:16.000 We'll still try and find someone that we can give, you know, who needs the money to get their project going, but I will absolutely see to it that, you know, we'll do that, because... See, you guys, you're the guys, you're the movement.

02:00:29.000 You're changing culture, because we did our part, you know, we made a movie.

02:00:36.000 But without the people, without you, we go nowhere.

02:00:41.000 So it's amazing how we're coming together and I believe that together we will end this nightmare.

02:00:49.000 We will bring freedom to the children that are not free right now.

02:00:52.000 I just realized a mistake with everything I was just saying.

02:00:55.000 I can't give the total amount of Super Chats to your organization because people could just do that on their own.

02:01:00.000 They could literally just go to your organization and make the donation.

02:01:03.000 I'm gonna double it.

02:01:04.000 Whatever you guys do in Super Chats, by the end of the show, I'm going to match it.

02:01:09.000 Oh, Super Chats are flying in. 0.87

02:01:11.000 Super Chats. 0.91

02:01:11.000 I was just thinking, why should I ask people to give me money for my show and then just give it to you when they could do that themselves? 0.91

02:01:16.000 I'll match it one for one.

02:01:17.000 Thank you so much, man.

02:01:18.000 No, easy.

02:01:18.000 Easy for me to do.

02:01:19.000 Look at this, man.

02:01:22.000 Those are the ambassadors of freedom right there, brother.

02:01:24.000 I'm going to match it 100%.

02:01:25.000 That's the movement.

02:01:26.000 You think they're going to stop this movement?

02:01:28.000 Who's going to stop this movement, brother?

02:01:29.000 Nobody.

02:01:30.000 Nobody.

02:01:31.000 I wanna say, we gotta go with members only, and I wanna say one final thing before we do the outros, and give people an opportunity to send in those superchats, I will match them.

02:01:40.000 The Timoteo scene in that film, it made me feel something indescribable.

02:01:47.000 I call it divine intervention, but it's indescribable.

02:01:51.000 That moment where you rescue a kid who gives you a name tag with your own name on it, I have no words, but for me, it makes me believe that everything we're doing has a purpose, has a reason.

02:02:05.000 We are here for something bigger than us, something better than us, that will make everything better, that will improve things, that will lead us to Whatever the plan is, we are instruments of it.

02:02:17.000 The work you guys have done.

02:02:18.000 So, thank you so much for what you're doing.

02:02:21.000 Guys, TimCast.com.

02:02:23.000 Become a member.

02:02:24.000 We have that members-only show coming up in a minute.

02:02:25.000 But if you guys want to shout anything out as we wrap up.

02:02:27.000 Tim?

02:02:29.000 Just gratitude.

02:02:30.000 Thank you guys so much.

02:02:31.000 I can't believe that there's this many people.

02:02:34.000 The silent majority has risen.

02:02:36.000 I never dreamed it would happen.

02:02:38.000 I have hope.

02:02:39.000 For the first time, I have hope that we can actually make an enormous impact in the fight against child slavery.

02:02:46.000 Gratitude is how we felt.

02:02:49.000 You know, I'm from Mexico.

02:02:51.000 I'm Catholic.

02:02:53.000 I believe in the power of prayer.

02:02:54.000 I want to ask permission.

02:02:59.000 Can I say Hail Mary for all the kids around the world?

02:03:01.000 Absolutely.

02:03:02.000 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

02:03:05.000 Amen.

02:03:06.000 Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

02:03:09.000 Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

02:03:13.000 Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for our sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

02:03:18.000 Amen.

02:03:19.000 Our Lady Guadalupe, pray for us.

02:03:21.000 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

02:03:23.000 Amen.

02:03:24.000 Long live freedom!

02:03:26.000 Thank you.

02:03:26.000 Thank you guys so much for being here.

02:03:28.000 Your film's an inspiration.

02:03:29.000 It was an amazing film.

02:03:30.000 I was entertained.

02:03:31.000 I was moved.

02:03:33.000 This has been amazing, so thank you so much.

02:03:36.000 Thank you.

02:03:37.000 Seamus, do you want to say anything?

02:03:39.000 I want to shout out everything that you guys are doing, and Tim, you've been very humble in saying things like, oh, the storytellers are the people starting the movement, and we're a part of this movement, and I do believe there's power in story, but Sir, what you are doing and what you are saying about yourself, it's such a massive understatement.

02:03:59.000 You have changed so many lives, and to go after just one lost child is such a beautiful imitation of Christ, and I want to thank you for that.

02:04:10.000 I want to thank you for being that example in the world, and I want to thank you for all of the work you're doing and the work that you've done.

02:04:16.000 Thank you so much.

02:04:17.000 Really appreciate that.

02:04:18.000 Of course.

02:04:19.000 People are going to follow you guys on Twitter.

02:04:20.000 We got at Tim Ballard.

02:04:21.000 We have at Everastegui.

02:04:23.000 Let me spell that out.

02:04:25.000 It's E-V-E-R-A-S-T-E-G-U-I. 1.00

02:04:25.000 There you go. 1.00

02:04:26.000 e that us to be let me spell that out it's e v e are a s t 1.00

02:04:31.000 e g u i there you go he'd better speak

02:04:35.000 on a side note and someone told me that you work with uh...

02:04:38.000 tim kennedy Is that true?

02:04:40.000 Have you ever worked with Tim Kennedy before?

02:04:41.000 No.

02:04:42.000 Someone told me a lie.

02:04:43.000 Well, maybe you will in the future.

02:04:44.000 I love that man.

02:04:45.000 He went over to Afghanistan during the surrender and was pulling people out over the course of a week and just freaking inspiration after inspiration.

02:04:54.000 Thank you guys so much.

02:04:55.000 No, thank you.

02:04:56.000 Let's make American Mexico free again. 1.00

02:04:58.000 Together we're stronger.

02:04:59.000 I would love... I fully agree.

02:05:01.000 And last thing, of course, it's spearfund.org and hourrescue.org.

02:05:08.000 All right, let's move this along.

02:05:10.000 Serge, you've been the man tonight.

02:05:11.000 Yeah, I... Tim is calling.

02:05:14.000 You guys are destroying the chat revenue.

02:05:17.000 It's sweet.

02:05:18.000 It's great to see.

02:05:18.000 I'm watching this whole, like, right in front of me.

02:05:21.000 That was really heavy.

02:05:22.000 I've been trying to see the film this week, but I've been moving, so it's been a little bit difficult for me to get in between everything edgewise, but I will be seeing it on Saturday.

02:05:28.000 So, appreciate it, guys.

02:05:30.000 Cheers.

02:05:31.000 Surge.com.

02:05:31.000 Not important.

02:05:32.000 It's all good.

02:05:33.000 This is going to wrap up the live portion of the show as we go to the members only, and When I said I would give you the Super Chat revenue, we had $3,000 in Super Chats.

02:05:42.000 We now have $21,000 in Super Chats.

02:05:44.000 So I'm going to click end stream, and we're going to go to TimCast.com.

02:05:49.000 But I just asked my girlfriend to bring up a personal check, so I'm going to be writing you guys a check for $42,000.

02:05:57.000 At least, because now it's $44,000.

02:05:58.000 All right, we're going to go to TimCast.com.

02:06:02.000 This has been amazing.

02:06:02.000 We'll see you guys over there.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 13, 2023

Timcast IRL - Biden Activates Military Reserve To Deploy To Europe Over Ukraine War w-Tim Ballard

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