Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Biden DOJ CHARGES TRUMP With CONSPIRACY Over 2020 Election Claims w-Tayler Hansen

00:00:00.000 The federal indictments against Donald Trump have just been issued.

00:00:29.000 He is being charged over false claims about the 2020 election, particularly his effort to overturn the results and the lead up to the obstruction of official proceedings.

00:00:39.000 We'll go through the, I believe there's four counts here, but this is it.

00:00:43.000 They're saying that Donald Trump was engaged in a conspiracy, essentially against the United States.

00:00:48.000 We're also hearing there will be likely another indictment coming out of Georgia with potentially more than a dozen defendants.

00:00:55.000 There are also several unindicted co-conspirators in this charge.

00:00:58.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is probably the most serious effort taken by Biden's DOJ explicitly to interfere in the 2024 election to prevent Trump from winning.

00:01:08.000 We've heard a lot of people say that Trump can't win.

00:01:11.000 They talk about polls, but the polls are actually showing Donald Trump is doing better than ever, and that he's either tied with or beating Joe Biden.

00:01:18.000 So what is Joe Biden doing?

00:01:20.000 Exactly this.

00:01:21.000 Now, of course, you can argue it's Merrick Garland, it's the DOJ, but these are Joe Biden's appointees, and they are going after the frontrunner for the Republican Party, It's unprecedented and I think it is rather terrifying where this goes.

00:01:36.000 We're going to break down this story and much more.

00:01:38.000 We also have big news coming out of Russia.

00:01:41.000 Another drone strike on targets in Moscow.

00:01:44.000 And now we're seeing more and more calls to bring back the military draft.

00:01:48.000 I'm not kidding.

00:01:48.000 Military.com just published an op-ed saying that we need a limited military draft.

00:01:53.000 Joe Biden just called the Select Reserves and the Ready Reserves.

00:01:56.000 The likelihood of a military draft in the event of a full-scale war?

00:01:59.000 Well, it's there.

00:02:01.000 It's there.

00:02:01.000 So we're gonna talk about this and a lot more.

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00:02:59.000 Joining us today to talk about this and a whole lot more is Taylor Hanson.

00:03:04.000 Nice to be here.

00:03:04.000 Who are you?

00:03:05.000 What do you do?

00:03:05.000 I'm an independent journalist and field reporter.

00:03:08.000 You know, I cover a little bit of everything from child drag shows to, you know, it was the riots January 6th, but, you know, we like to cover a little bit of everything.

00:03:15.000 Right on.

00:03:16.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.

00:03:16.000 It should be interesting.

00:03:17.000 We also got Phil Labonte.

00:03:18.000 How are you doing, everybody?

00:03:19.000 I am Phil Abate, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:03:25.000 I'm Ian Crossman.

00:03:26.000 What's up, everybody?

00:03:27.000 Let's get rolling.

00:03:28.000 Yeah, iamsurge.com.

00:03:30.000 I agree.

00:03:30.000 Let us go.

00:03:31.000 Well, that was fast.

00:03:32.000 Let's jump into this first story here.

00:03:34.000 We got this from the AP.

00:03:36.000 Trump indicted for efforts to overturn 2020 election and block transfer of power.

00:03:42.000 Donald Trump was indicted on felony charges Tuesday for working to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the run-up to the violent riot by his supporters at the U.S.

00:03:50.000 Capitol, with the DOJ moving to hold him accountable for an unprecedented effort to block the peaceful transfer of presidential power.

00:03:57.000 The four-count indictment, the third criminal case against Trump, provided deeper insight into a dark chapter in American history that has already been the subject of exhaustive federal investigations and captivating public hearings.

00:04:08.000 It chronicles a months-long campaign of lies about the election results and says that even when those falsehoods culminated in a chaotic insurrection at the Capitol, Trump sought to exploit that violence by trying to further delay the counting of votes that sealed his defeat.

00:04:22.000 They go on and then add some opinion nonsense.

00:04:24.000 I think we have the actual indictment right here.

00:04:28.000 Count 1.

00:04:29.000 Conspiracy to defraud the U.S.

00:04:31.000 Count 2.

00:04:32.000 Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.

00:04:34.000 Count 3.

00:04:35.000 Obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights.

00:04:41.000 They go on to lay out their case with a few interesting points.

00:04:44.000 I'll pull this one up from Brett L. Tolman who says, I've now read the indictment twice.

00:04:48.000 It is criminalizing speech, thought, legal positions, right or wrong, and disinformation.

00:04:55.000 It is also shockingly manipulative of statuses and theories which require enormous legal wrangling.

00:05:00.000 Further, it ignores advice of counsel defenses and mens rea requirements.

00:05:06.000 But the most glaring thing is what's not in the indictment.

00:05:09.000 The charges of treason, sedition, or any other serious fact-based count outlining genuinely criminal behavior.

00:05:15.000 The unindicted co-conspiracists are lawyers representing the accused, a DOJ employee, and a political consultant.

00:05:22.000 And their conspiracy?

00:05:24.000 Believing there was election fraud, talking about election fraud, and pursuing legal challenges in states, they believed election fraud occurred.

00:05:33.000 To put it simply, ladies and gentlemen, Trump has been indicted for taking the advice of lawyers.

00:05:38.000 That's it.

00:05:40.000 So I think the reality is that they're going to make up whatever reason they can to go after Donald Trump to prevent him from running in 2024.

00:05:47.000 They'll likely use this, or whatever comes out of this, because this is going to be a D.C.

00:05:52.000 jury.

00:05:53.000 The likelihood that Trump gets a fair trial is nil.

00:05:55.000 There's likely going to be a bunch of Democrats who are going to vote to indict, and when he does, they will move to remove him from the ballots in 2024, citing the 14th Amendment or insurrection or something to that effect.

00:06:07.000 Yep, and I think that it's not, as much as you're only going to see the effect on Trump right now, going forward for the rest of essentially American history or until there's some kind of significant change in the bureaucracy in Washington, any outsider candidate is going to be treated like Trump.

00:06:29.000 Now, granted, Trump gives plenty of ammo to the left, and I think that's... Plenty is an understatement.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, I think it's an understatement, but the fact remains they are Prosecuting him or indicting him for things that he was found not guilty of with the impeachment in the Senate.

00:06:50.000 So he was tried for a lot of the same things here in the Senate when he was impeached and they was found not guilty.

00:06:56.000 It's it's it's the same stuff.

00:06:59.000 So they're they're just like it's it's clear that they're trying to make him either prevent him from being the nominee or make it make him, you know, seem unvotable.

00:07:11.000 You can't vote for him, you know.

00:07:11.000 I think they want him to be the nominee, and then once he is, they remove him from the ballot, and now they're unopposed.

00:07:16.000 Just cause mass chaos.

00:07:18.000 Yep.

00:07:18.000 Well, it seems like they're going down this route regardless.

00:07:21.000 There's not going to be any end to indictments.

00:07:23.000 If this isn't the indictment that takes them out, there'll be a new indictment in a month.

00:07:26.000 I mean, we've seen it over and over and over again.

00:07:28.000 They're never going to give this guy a break.

00:07:30.000 It's interesting to me that they tried to tie in January 6th just a little bit to this, even though it's been proven time and time again there was no incitement from him.

00:07:39.000 He basically had no role in this.

00:07:42.000 The Capitol grounds were already breached while he was still speaking.

00:07:46.000 And then he released the video on Twitter.

00:07:48.000 Twitter took it down.

00:07:48.000 They took the other video down, and they banned him.

00:07:50.000 So how are his followers supposed to see him saying, you know, stay peaceful?

00:07:54.000 We love the Capitol Police.

00:07:55.000 We support the Capitol Police.

00:07:57.000 You can't.

00:07:57.000 But they're just never going to stop this, it seems like.

00:08:00.000 My original thoughts was that we're going to run him through the ringer, find him guilty of something, and then take his name off the ballot.

00:08:05.000 Maybe that will happen.

00:08:06.000 The other thing I'm just reading about it, people are like, yo, he's getting bankrupted.

00:08:09.000 Maybe not literally bankrupted, but this is costing him a lot of money.

00:08:11.000 Oh, I think it's been, I think he spent like what, I saw something like 40 million dollars.

00:08:15.000 And he's being attacked for it.

00:08:17.000 This is what I never liked about these duplicitous political attacks.

00:08:21.000 Steve Bannon and that other dude, they're doing that build the wall campaign, they get a bunch of donations.

00:08:25.000 They indict and charge one of the guys behind it because he said he wouldn't take his salary and then he did.

00:08:29.000 Not a single person who donated, a legitimate fan, cared that someone got paid a salary when they said they weren't gonna get paid a salary.

00:08:36.000 They were probably like, sure, whatever.

00:08:38.000 And this is the same thing here, you've got You've got people saying, Donald Trump is swindling his supporters by taking the donations to pay his legal fees.

00:08:45.000 And I'm just like, dude, not a single Trump supporter cares what Trump does with the money.

00:08:50.000 They know what this money is going towards.

00:08:52.000 Like, they see the indictments over and over again, and even if they didn't, they're so loyal to Trump, I don't think they're going to care at all.

00:08:57.000 Agreed.

00:08:58.000 If Trump came out and said, look, we took a bunch of the money and we bought a golden toilet for my plane, his fans would laugh.

00:09:03.000 They'd love it.

00:09:04.000 Like, show us pictures.

00:09:05.000 Like, it feels good when I sit on it.

00:09:07.000 They'd be like, Yes!

00:09:08.000 Nice and warm!

00:09:09.000 Yes!

00:09:11.000 It's warm.

00:09:12.000 Yeah, let me read this from the indictment.

00:09:13.000 Check this out, this is interesting.

00:09:15.000 Section 3, it says, page 2.

00:09:16.000 The defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and to even claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election that he had won.

00:09:26.000 He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means, such as by seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote in states or filing lawsuit challenging ballots and procedures.

00:09:38.000 Indeed, in many cases, the defendant did pursue these methods of contesting election results.

00:09:42.000 His efforts to change the outcome in any state through recounts, audits or legal challenges were uniformly unsuccessful.

00:09:48.000 Shortly after election day, the defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results.

00:09:54.000 In doing so, the defendant perpetrated three criminal conspiracies.

00:09:57.000 Now, this is the interesting thing.

00:10:00.000 They just, the first one, the first paragraph they're saying, or I'm sorry, paragraph three, that he's allowed to say these things, he's allowed to claim these things, he's allowed to seek these challenges, but he also did illegal things.

00:10:11.000 It directly contradicts itself.

00:10:12.000 It's not that, it's that they immediately then say, but he did illegal things therefore.

00:10:16.000 Like, okay, you should list those illegal things.

00:10:19.000 Like, if he's allowed to make these claims, if he's allowed to file these lawsuits, if all of that's fine, what did he do?

00:10:27.000 Well, it seems like he's being prosecuted for trying to legally question the election.

00:10:31.000 That's what it really... Here's what they say, a conspiracy to defraud the U.S.

00:10:34.000 using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected.

00:10:41.000 Quite literally saying, Trump's allowed to be wrong, but he's not allowed to be wrong.

00:10:46.000 He's not allowed to lie.

00:10:47.000 He's allowed to be wrong, but he's not allowed to lie and say it if he knows that it's not true.

00:10:51.000 Every fiber of Donald Trump's being believes that he won the presidency.

00:10:58.000 Every single bit of Donald Trump believes that.

00:11:00.000 And you know what's interesting?

00:11:01.000 This indictment comes out too, and then you got the DeSantis camp releasing something trying to say, like counteract the fact that, you know, he actually believed it.

00:11:09.000 They're saying that he knew beforehand that it wasn't actually stolen.

00:11:13.000 So and then it's interesting that this indictment comes out And I don't think Trump had, like, hard evidence that it was true, so if he made the claim, you can't know it's true if you don't have evidence, hard evidence, so it would just be an assumption, but that's still not a lie.

00:11:31.000 You can still believe in it, that's not a lie.

00:11:33.000 He was just asserting.

00:11:35.000 He was just saying, this is the way that it is.

00:11:36.000 I know.

00:11:37.000 I'm confident in it.

00:11:40.000 It's reasonable to say that there was some amount of error and fraud.

00:11:44.000 So Trump's just like, look, I know that there were people that were suppressing votes and people trying to blah, blah, blah.

00:11:51.000 But I know that my voters came out for me.

00:11:52.000 So go find those votes because they're out there.

00:11:54.000 It wasn't like he was like, oh, go stuff ballots into a box.

00:11:59.000 Not that he wouldn't do that if he could get away with it, because he would, but I don't think that he has any kind of plan to stuff ballots or whatever.

00:12:09.000 At one point, didn't he make an offhanded comment about voting twice or something?

00:12:13.000 I remember when the left freaked out about it, it was a joke.

00:12:17.000 I think Roseanne may have been right.

00:12:20.000 Military tribunals by the end of the year?

00:12:22.000 No.

00:12:22.000 Not that one.

00:12:23.000 Roseanne said there's not going to be an election.

00:12:25.000 And Michael Malice said, of course there will be.

00:12:29.000 And then, you know, my response was, of course, like, define, we need to clarify what you mean.

00:12:32.000 And I tweeted this earlier, perhaps she's right, not in the literal sense that all of a sudden there's no election, but if Donald Trump is removed from the ballot in a single state, can you really call it a true election?

00:12:44.000 And that, I think, is an interesting point.

00:12:47.000 Everyone knows the frontrunner is Donald Trump.

00:12:48.000 He's gonna be the nominee for the GOP.

00:12:50.000 Joe Biden, likely, unless something changes, it could change, but right now it's looking like Biden versus Trump.

00:12:56.000 That's what the polls are showing.

00:12:57.000 A lot can change from now and then.

00:13:00.000 If there is an election, and Trump is forcefully removed from that election, it's not an election, because the people aren't given the choice they actually want.

00:13:09.000 I agree.

00:13:10.000 People will call it an election, but if it isn't actually an election, it doesn't matter what you call it.

00:13:15.000 Well, in banana republics they call them elections, right?

00:13:19.000 You can't legally call American cheese cheese.

00:13:22.000 That's why the package says American pasteurized processed cheese product.

00:13:24.000 We call it cheese.

00:13:26.000 We ask for extra cheese when we put it on our burgers, but it is legally distinct from cheese.

00:13:31.000 So that's a technicality I'm referring to.

00:13:32.000 It is legally distinct from cheese.

00:13:35.000 It in fact is.

00:13:36.000 I like the comparison.

00:13:37.000 What I really love is I'm a big fan of Home Runnin' Pizza.

00:13:39.000 You guys ever have Home Runnin'?

00:13:40.000 I don't think so.

00:13:41.000 Where's that?

00:13:42.000 Famous Chicago pizza brand.

00:13:44.000 It's really good pizza.

00:13:45.000 It's like a flat pizza.

00:13:46.000 And you get these little personal ones and it says cheese pizza with pepperoni.

00:13:52.000 Why?

00:13:52.000 Because they don't have the legal amount of pepperoni on them to be called pepperoni pizzas.

00:13:56.000 Oh, that's funny.

00:13:57.000 There's a legal amount in Chicago?

00:14:00.000 Wow.

00:14:00.000 Not Chicago, I think federally.

00:14:02.000 But here's my point, my point is this.

00:14:04.000 Federal government at work.

00:14:05.000 The left, the liberals, will remove Trump and then say, we had a free and fair election.

00:14:09.000 And the right will say, our guy was removed from the ballot, how is that a fair election?

00:14:13.000 And the left will just say it.

00:14:14.000 Let me read you this part of this.

00:14:16.000 This is crazy.

00:14:16.000 Check it out.

00:14:17.000 The co-conspirators.

00:14:18.000 One, an attorney who was willing to spread lies.

00:14:21.000 They say false claims.

00:14:22.000 Two, an attorney who devised an attempt to implement a strategy.

00:14:25.000 Three, an attorney whose undefined claims of election fraud defended privately acknowledged others sounded crazy.

00:14:30.000 Four, a DOJ official.

00:14:32.000 Five, an attorney.

00:14:33.000 So there's, what is this, four attorneys advising Donald Trump and they're like, that makes it a conspiracy.

00:14:39.000 So then you've got... We're doing their jobs.

00:14:41.000 Coconspirator 6, a political consultant who helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors, what they're doing is, they're saying it's false because the media said so, and the electors are fraudulent because they weren't elected, despite the fact Democrats had done this in 1960.

00:14:58.000 They sent a slate of electors, they convened and did everything, despite the fact the state was awarded to the Republicans.

00:15:04.000 They did it anyway.

00:15:05.000 And then when it came down to the actual electoral vote, Nixon, the VP at the time, counted the Democrat votes instead.

00:15:11.000 So when Donald Trump did exactly the same thing, now it's fraud.

00:15:16.000 This is a clear sham and attempt.

00:15:19.000 This is the real conspiracy.

00:15:21.000 This is the real fraud happening right in front of us. 1.00

00:15:24.000 Donald Trump believed stupid things. 1.00

00:15:26.000 Don't get me wrong. 1.00

00:15:27.000 Donald Trump sought to legally remedy these things.

00:15:30.000 When he's on the phone with these people, he genuinely believes that lawyers telling him these things are happening.

00:15:34.000 And he's like, OK.

00:15:35.000 And as Phil pointed out, there is not an ounce, there is not a tiny, there is not a single cell in Trump's body that believes he did not win.

00:15:42.000 Every part of him believes he won.

00:15:44.000 How could he lose?

00:15:44.000 He's the biggest.

00:15:45.000 He's the best.

00:15:46.000 He's got golden toilets.

00:15:47.000 And his lawyers told him he did.

00:15:49.000 So he said, pursue it.

00:15:50.000 They're going after him claiming it's wrong.

00:15:52.000 Not only is the guy like really really strongly prone to think that he won because of his

00:15:58.000 ego but then he's got lawyers that are like yeah dude you're totally right.

00:16:01.000 He's like he's not he's not gonna be like oh everyone else is right.

00:16:07.000 Me and the guys that are literally telling me exactly what I want to hear, we are probably wrong.

00:16:11.000 Well, and it's like their jobs, too.

00:16:13.000 And now they're listed as co-conspirators for doing their jobs, being attorneys.

00:16:16.000 This is the craziest thing.

00:16:18.000 They're indicting his attorneys for legally advising him.

00:16:22.000 Yeah.

00:16:23.000 I would imagine that if the attorneys believed what they were saying, then they're not committing crimes.

00:16:27.000 Well, and attorneys, I don't think, have to believe what they're saying.

00:16:29.000 I mean, it's their job to defend their client.

00:16:31.000 That's the entire point of it.

00:16:33.000 I don't even think you legally have to believe you know you're claiming murder cases you know you a lot of I mean this is obviously different but attorneys represent murderers all the time look at OJ Simpson you know he did it but you know he got off and wasn't prosecuted for it.

00:16:45.000 There are times where you'll have a murder case where it's like you're getting charged with One, like murder one, and the attorney will just swear up and down that it was just manslaughter, right?

00:16:57.000 Like, they knew that you killed him, but it wasn't intended, you know, so details like that matter, and they're gonna say whatever they need to say to get their client off, you know?

00:17:08.000 Yeah, so if it turns out that Trump believed what he was saying, I mean, first of all, how in the hell can you prove that in court?

00:17:15.000 You can't.

00:17:16.000 You cannot.

00:17:16.000 Only he knows.

00:17:17.000 That's why they don't go after perjury.

00:17:19.000 Because it's impossible, in most cases, to prove someone was lying.

00:17:22.000 So if it turns out he wasn't lying, he was just wrong, then does that not just clear all these other people then?

00:17:27.000 Because there was no conspiracy, because there was no corruption?

00:17:28.000 You would think it would clear this entire indictment, because the entire indictment is based on him allegedly knowing beforehand and then lying about it.

00:17:36.000 So this indictment, I mean, it's just BS.

00:17:39.000 So here's my question.

00:17:41.000 How can there be an election in 2024 with this already coming down?

00:17:46.000 Because what we see here is, I'll say it again, in 1960, Republicans win Hawaii.

00:17:52.000 Democrats convene electors anyway, fill out the requisite forms, and send them to D.C.

00:17:57.000 Even though they lost.

00:17:59.000 In the end, Nixon decides to count the Democrat electoral votes anyway, because it was a court hearing.

00:18:05.000 They were not certified.

00:18:06.000 He says, we're going to count these ones.

00:18:07.000 Does anybody object?

00:18:08.000 Okay, there they go to Kennedy instead.

00:18:11.000 Trump's team does that.

00:18:13.000 They're claiming that's a conspiracy.

00:18:15.000 The DOJ, Biden, Biden's DOJ is claiming that Trump knew he was lying, that his attorneys were conspiring with him to willfully lie and defraud the country to steal an election.

00:18:27.000 With them saying this, and of course not a single Trump supporter believes this is true, how can there be an election in 2024?

00:18:33.000 Let's say that Donald Trump doesn't get convicted, he's on the ballot, we make it to November, and then they say, go cast your votes.

00:18:44.000 How could anyone on the left believe it if Trump wins?

00:18:48.000 How could anyone on the right believe it if Biden wins?

00:18:50.000 Yeah, that's where I've got to, man.

00:18:52.000 Like, with people voting on a proprietary voting machine behind the scenes and then them just spitting you out and them telling us what our votes said without verification, how... I am lost.

00:19:02.000 I'm like, I am so far out of the political realm.

00:19:04.000 I see no solution within that broken... within that, I guess you would call, obfuscated system.

00:19:11.000 I can't... I don't know what strings to pull on because I don't know what they're connected to because I can't see the code.

00:19:17.000 What happens?

00:19:18.000 What happens in 2024, the day after the election, and they say the winner of the 2024 race is, insert candidate, what happens in this country?

00:19:28.000 How are you going to prove it?

00:19:29.000 That, you know, that candidate didn't win or did win?

00:19:31.000 You can't.

00:19:31.000 Because like Eaton said, who's counting our votes?

00:19:33.000 We're not.

00:19:34.000 But I'm not even talking about that.

00:19:36.000 It doesn't matter who wins.

00:19:38.000 What happens to this country when one or the other wins?

00:19:41.000 It's going to fall apart regardless, I think.

00:19:43.000 I mean, we saw the reaction to when Trump won.

00:19:45.000 You see the 2020 riots.

00:19:46.000 You see everything that happened.

00:19:47.000 And then you see the reaction to when Biden wins.

00:19:49.000 You know, either side is going to be very uncomfortable regardless of who wins.

00:19:53.000 just a matter of which side is going to be more uncomfortable.

00:19:56.000 And obviously the left is always going to be the more uncomfortable side when the opposing

00:19:59.000 Canada wins.

00:20:00.000 But I think the right, it's kind of scary because in this situation it's like they're

00:20:04.000 trying to push the right into the extremism box that they've already labeled them in.

00:20:09.000 That's their goal I feel like here.

00:20:10.000 They want these right-wing terrorists and right-wing extremists to go out and act like

00:20:16.000 I mean, look at what they did with J6, right? 1.00

00:20:18.000 That is their goal, I think, here, because then they can say, look, you know, these people are insane.

00:20:23.000 They're everything we've been telling you they are for the past 10 years.

00:20:26.000 And it's just another, I feel like it's just going to be another step towards the ultimate dehumanization process that we're seeing in the country.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, if, for instance, Biden wins in 24 and then people are just out of their minds, frustrated with the system, whether Trump was in the election or not, they're going to look for, like, moral solace of some sort to not go crazy.

00:20:45.000 And it's really our job or the job of you listening, you, like all of us, to keep people sane, keep your friends and neighbors sane.

00:20:51.000 Because if they do snap, they'll be used as an example, just like you're saying, Taylor.

00:20:55.000 And just what Hitler did when the Reichstag burned down, he blamed the communists and he sent the whole country into martial law. 0.57

00:20:59.000 So do not step on that landmine.

00:21:02.000 If Trump wins, the left will say, oh no, the fascists are taking over. 0.97

00:21:08.000 He's a criminal and he's been indicted and we all know it. 0.98

00:21:12.000 He's trying to defraud this country. 0.95

00:21:13.000 There's no way this is legitimate.

00:21:14.000 Vladimir Putin's probably helping him.

00:21:17.000 Then what?

00:21:18.000 If Joe Biden wins, then the right is going to say, it's clearly the deep state.

00:21:23.000 It's clearly fraud.

00:21:26.000 What happens?

00:21:27.000 I can't, I can't predict.

00:21:27.000 I have no idea.

00:21:29.000 Well, did you see, uh, the other day this, I don't remember, you know, who it was.

00:21:32.000 It was obviously a left-wing.

00:21:34.000 He's a fairly famous character.

00:21:36.000 He was on Joe Rogan's podcast and Rogan was pushing him, uh, you know, on the question of, you know, are the Bidens corrupt?

00:21:42.000 Like there's clearly evidence.

00:21:43.000 Jim Gaffigan.

00:21:44.000 It doesn't matter what really happens.

00:21:47.000 didn't believe in anything that he was saying. He was just stuttering and

00:21:50.000 mumbling. He was trying to... He doesn't know it at all. I think he was drunk too.

00:21:54.000 But I think it just shows you that like it doesn't matter what really happens.

00:21:58.000 The left is gonna be unhappy regardless and they're just gonna continue to get

00:22:04.000 These aren't happy people and they can never really achieve happiness or solitude in their political candidates.

00:22:09.000 I mean, they're unhappy with Biden still.

00:22:11.000 So I think you're just going to keep seeing both sides being pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed until there's finally a breaking point again, like 2020 was.

00:22:17.000 I think 2024 is going to be a breaking point.

00:22:19.000 Oh, I think it is going to be, too.

00:22:21.000 That's what Roseanne was saying.

00:22:22.000 She was saying something to the effect that there won't be an election.

00:22:24.000 And the idea that there is no election is absurd, but it will be an election as people will go vote, there will be ballots, but will anyone believe the results?

00:22:34.000 It's a faux election, yeah.

00:22:35.000 No, I mean like it might be real, it might be legitimate, but no one will believe it no matter what.

00:22:39.000 To not be able to know, that's the problem.

00:22:40.000 We don't see the code tallying the votes for us, how can we know?

00:22:43.000 But that doesn't even matter because it's not all digital.

00:22:45.000 Some is paper, some of these places do take paper ballots.

00:22:49.000 The point is, it doesn't matter if If the vote is two people, and you and I walk in the room, and I hold up a sign saying Trump, and you hold up a sign saying Trump, and we go, there it is, Trump won.

00:22:59.000 The left won't care.

00:23:01.000 They'll say, it doesn't matter that he won, fascists have taken over, and now you must resist.

00:23:06.000 Yeah, I think you're right about that.

00:23:07.000 Whoever seizes the power at the top, it doesn't really matter to the crowd, to the people, to the culture.

00:23:12.000 And that's why I'm so heavily focused on creating songs and movies right now.

00:23:16.000 I don't, it doesn't seem like it's a direct line to salvation, like make a hit movie, but I mean, it can't hurt.

00:23:21.000 It can only do good.

00:23:22.000 And I know that during World War II artists thrived, you know, in deep dark times is when people really, really need someone to make them laugh or to make them smile or to give them hope.

00:23:32.000 So maybe that'll do something.

00:23:34.000 You see that all throughout history.

00:23:35.000 That's when artists thrive is the darkest times throughout history.

00:23:38.000 And not just that, but musicians, people that give somebody hope, even if it's through a dark message, they're always going to thrive because people are always looking for something to latch on to.

00:23:48.000 Because in a society, what are you going to latch on to now?

00:23:51.000 What, child drag shows?

00:23:53.000 What moral things are in America right now, and as it declines even more, for you to latch on to and to be proud of?

00:23:59.000 There's pretty much nothing.

00:24:00.000 Yeah, we need structural reorganization in the United States, big time, man.

00:24:03.000 I don't know if the three branches of government's enough.

00:24:04.000 If we need a fourth branch of government, like the National Initiative.

00:24:07.000 Mike Revelle was working on the National Initiative before he passed away.

00:24:10.000 That's an interesting concept.

00:24:11.000 Mike Revelle's a communist.

00:24:13.000 I don't think so.

00:24:14.000 That guy was lit.

00:24:15.000 It's the young guys he let take over.

00:24:17.000 The people running his Twitter account have kind of trashed, dragged it through the mud, no offense guys, I don't know if you actually have, but I have not been, it's not Mike Gravel, let's put it that way.

00:24:25.000 If you're communist, I'm comfortable with the offense.

00:24:27.000 So if we need a fourth branch of government so the people have more of a voice in writing and creating laws and passing them into the Senate, because right now it's like a monopoly of like 300, 400 people, they get to do that.

00:24:37.000 I don't want more laws though! 0.65

00:24:38.000 I was gonna say can you really trust the government to give people more power because whenever you know

00:24:43.000 They've they've tried to give people more power. It ends up with them having less power

00:24:47.000 We are the government laws inherently do not empower people But we like every law that the government passes or that

00:24:54.000 that gets passed Takes power away from the individual and from the people so

00:24:58.000 you would be able to repeal laws also give the national initiative

00:25:01.000 I'm not sure that's written in but let's do it give people the opportunity

00:25:04.000 But also he was in charge of repealing the laws and in stating new laws

00:25:07.000 That's where you run into the problem in the roadblock because not everybody's gonna agree with and why would the

00:25:12.000 government want?

00:25:13.000 Why would the government?

00:25:15.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:25:16.000 branch, the existing government, but probably the Congress and the

00:25:20.000 executive, but why would the government allow a new branch to repeal laws when

00:25:24.000 Congress is fully empowered to do that now? It would be still the Senate. And laws

00:25:29.000 don't matter at all anyway. Yeah, fair enough. Enforcement is what matters. So either we,

00:25:34.000 you know, if we want there to truly be changes in this country it has to be

00:25:38.000 cultural, meaning the people genuinely agree that something is over the line

00:25:43.000 and other things are not.

00:25:44.000 And that's where a lot of the culture war stuff is taking place, in areas where the right and the left fundamentally disagree on what is okay and what isn't okay.

00:25:52.000 Like, for instance, many liberals are okay with books like Genderqueer and This Book is Gay, which contain sexually graphic images.

00:25:59.000 They're okay with those books being given to minor children, for whatever reason.

00:26:03.000 And then people on the right are not okay with that.

00:26:05.000 The law is clear.

00:26:07.000 You can't allow this, but police will not enforce it.

00:26:10.000 Period.

00:26:11.000 So it's a cultural issue.

00:26:12.000 I've only ever seen the police, like, referring to child drag shows, which is clear.

00:26:16.000 I mean, sexual manipulation.

00:26:17.000 I mean, you're taking advantage of these kids in an intentional way and corrupting their minds.

00:26:22.000 And you know, I've covered over probably 50 of these just in Texas alone.

00:26:25.000 There has only been one single one where anything was enforced and it wasn't against the drag performers, it was against Antifa.

00:26:31.000 So they're unwilling to enforce it, even though it's clearly stated that it's against the law.

00:26:35.000 And then SB 12 passed, which in September, it's going to go into state that it actually is against the law.

00:26:40.000 They'll revoke business licenses, there'll be jail time amongst other things, but it's still going to happen and none of it's going to be enforced.

00:26:46.000 We need to show people, like, when I pick up that book, Genderqueer, and I turn to the page where the young kid has, like, a strap on, and the other kid's, like, getting down to go down on this other kid.

00:26:57.000 Maybe someone needs to see me showing a 14-year-old that to see how horrific it is.

00:27:01.000 Wake up!

00:27:03.000 Exactly!

00:27:03.000 We can't just put it behind a curtain and say it's fine.

00:27:07.000 You cannot let that happen.

00:27:09.000 Sorry, Taylor.

00:27:09.000 Yeah, I mean, but the left does allow it to happen.

00:27:11.000 Ian, you're not a communist, you can go to jail.

00:27:12.000 It's because they're communists, they're protective.

00:27:14.000 I think it's because a lot of people don't know it's happening, and they're just going along with it.

00:27:17.000 Like, Emma Vigeland was on The Culture War, she was like, oh yeah, that book's great.

00:27:19.000 Didn't even know what she was talking about.

00:27:20.000 She didn't know, had never, obviously never read the book.

00:27:22.000 But that matters to a certain degree, but the real issue is, there's a video of a guy backing away from anti-FUT in Seattle, They're threatening him with weapons, and the cops pull up, jump out, and arrest the victim.

00:27:35.000 If you tried saying, everyone, look at this book, look what they're doing to kids, they'll be like, oh, well, you just committed a crime, Ian.

00:27:41.000 Even in courtrooms, they're like, don't, it's too graphic, don't show us, we can't know, and you're like, dude, you gotta know, man.

00:27:46.000 If a teacher shows it to a kid, nothing will happen.

00:27:50.000 If you are an opponent of the communists and you show it, you will be arrested.

00:27:54.000 Well, look, it's a perfect example with this topic.

00:27:57.000 I mean, you look at the 2020 riots, right?

00:27:59.000 And then the one time the right decides to riot, look at the prosecution difference.

00:28:03.000 I mean, when the dissenters do something that they're not supposed to, you know, while the other side's completely allowed to, it's just as illegal.

00:28:10.000 They paid Antifa millions of dollars when they rioted in D.C.

00:28:15.000 during Trump's inauguration.

00:28:16.000 They smashed buildings that cost millions of dollars in damage.

00:28:19.000 They caused, they destroyed private vehicles, set fires in the streets, torched a limousine.

00:28:24.000 And then when the police arrested them, the cops got in trouble and the city paid out

00:28:27.000 millions of dollars to Antifa as the victims.

00:28:30.000 And then a couple years later, the vice president was hocking or plugging their defense fund.

00:28:37.000 Well, you look at the Portland defense fund with Rose City Antifa and those groups when I went to jail with them in 2020.

00:28:43.000 I mean I was talking to them.

00:28:44.000 They have millions of dollars in that defense fund when I last talked to him.

00:28:48.000 It was like 3.8 million dollars and all that money is recycled because they're not getting prosecuted.

00:28:54.000 They show up to their trial.

00:28:55.000 They don't get prosecuted that money goes right back in and it just keeps stacking and stacking and stacking but you don't see anything like that on the right.

00:29:02.000 Who has control of that fund?

00:29:03.000 I don't know.

00:29:05.000 Somebody has control.

00:29:06.000 So how do we fix this stuff, man?

00:29:08.000 How do we get in there and make this like us?

00:29:11.000 I think it all comes down to culture.

00:29:12.000 I think that's the most understated and, you know, I mean, I would say underestimated aspect.

00:29:17.000 And Tim has done really, I mean, this whole crew has done really good on hitting on the culture more so than anybody on the right.

00:29:22.000 As we should be making movies like Daily Wire, we should be making songs like Tim.

00:29:26.000 You have to affect the culture to change it.

00:29:29.000 I mean, you've got to change people's minds and that is through culture.

00:29:32.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:29:33.000 We got this one from CW Atlanta.

00:29:35.000 Security barricades placed around Fulton County Courthouse in Atlanta.

00:29:39.000 They are slow rolling this one, and we know what's about to happen.

00:29:43.000 Fulton County DA says her team's work is accomplished, setting stage for Trump indictment announcement.

00:29:49.000 As many as 18 people could be charged in connection with attempts to overturn the 2020 election results.

00:29:54.000 I ain't mad at the Democrats.

00:29:57.000 I'm not mad.

00:29:58.000 I'm mad at the Republicans.

00:30:00.000 Yep.

00:30:00.000 The Republicans in all of these different states and all these different places do nothing.

00:30:05.000 Well, they don't use their power.

00:30:06.000 Even when we do have, even when the right does have power, they don't use it.

00:30:09.000 They refuse to use it because they don't want to be seen as, you know, these right-wing fascist dictators, but the left, they don't care.

00:30:14.000 I don't know I believe that.

00:30:16.000 I think that the Republicans who are claiming they don't want to be tyrannical are actually just in on it.

00:30:23.000 Oh yeah, well it's a uniparty through and through. 1.00

00:30:25.000 You have a select few people, you know, congressmen and representatives that maybe not be a part of it.

00:30:29.000 They were not happy that Trump won.

00:30:31.000 Yeah, there's always going to be conflict and the uniparty is still strong and it's going to stay strong.

00:30:36.000 It's just a matter of breaking that up.

00:30:38.000 How do you do that?

00:30:39.000 Where are we at with impeaching Joe Biden over his obvious and discernible shady business dealings with his son?

00:30:44.000 Where are we at there?

00:30:45.000 Kevin McCarthy said, we're now going to begin the process of beginning an inquiry into impeachment.

00:30:52.000 Yep.

00:30:53.000 So it'll never happen.

00:30:54.000 So now we're at the point where we decided to start the process of asking the question, does this rise the level of impeachment?

00:31:02.000 Which we already know it clearly does, but it's just a pony show.

00:31:05.000 That's really all it is.

00:31:06.000 It's just for show.

00:31:07.000 It's to give people false hope and say, oh, look, they're fighting back.

00:31:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:11.000 I mean, he could have been I think he could have been impeached within his first month in office.

00:31:13.000 I mean, with all the evidence, even there was enough evidence with Hunter Biden and everything.

00:31:17.000 But if you want to make an argument that those were pre Biden presidency, then OK, then Afghanistan outright.

00:31:25.000 I mean, that was such a Disaster and utter failure, it warrants removal in my opinion.

00:31:30.000 All the stuff that's coming out about Burisma and Ukraine and stuff, that's plenty of reason to impeach.

00:31:38.000 There's sufficient evidence.

00:31:40.000 Just the testimony from what's-his-name last night or whatever.

00:31:46.000 The guest on the show last night?

00:31:47.000 No, no, the whistleblower.

00:31:50.000 I mean, Joe Biden was listening to all the conversations.

00:31:53.000 Joe Biden would call all of Hunter Biden's business partners and stuff like that, associates, just to just to be like, hey, I'm Joe Biden.

00:32:01.000 He's actually like he can actually get me to, you know, help out if he needs or if he needs help.

00:32:07.000 So you should probably do what he says.

00:32:08.000 That's exactly what it was.

00:32:09.000 It was it's as it's clear corruption.

00:32:12.000 And I don't know.

00:32:14.000 like I said last night, I don't have a whole lot of hope in any kind of impeachment or any kind of actual...

00:32:23.000 Republicans don't do anything.

00:32:24.000 Yeah.

00:32:24.000 Even at the state level, what we're looking at with the Fulton County DA, this is local politics.

00:32:29.000 Going after Trump, trying to stop him from being able to run.

00:32:32.000 They don't want an election.

00:32:34.000 The Democrats are doing this because they know they lose.

00:32:36.000 They will lose if everything is done standard fare.

00:32:41.000 I wonder if they would, like, lose, like, in a landslide, because, like, the majority of people are, like, really over the transient LGBT stuff. 0.99

00:32:48.000 Well, once you touch people's money, it's over.

00:32:50.000 Once you touch people's money, I think that's the biggest indicator.

00:32:52.000 I have left-wing people that I talk to all the time that are suffering financially.

00:32:56.000 That's the biggest hit, I think, that you can do on somebody, is once you mess with somebody's pockets, they're gonna notice.

00:33:06.000 I mean, yeah.

00:33:10.000 There's sufficient reason for the American people to not like Joe Biden.

00:33:15.000 There is ample reason.

00:33:17.000 I don't think that he's a popular president.

00:33:20.000 I don't think you need to convince people that Joe Biden has done a bad job.

00:33:24.000 I don't think that's the argument that anyone really needs to make.

00:33:27.000 I think people need to read more history if you look at countries that fall into revolution or civil war.

00:33:33.000 Because what's happening now with the indictment of Donald Trump, the third, technically, what do we have, the third indictment?

00:33:40.000 Potentially moving to the fourth.

00:33:43.000 This is worse than what happened in some of the, you know, greater revolutions and civil wars throughout history.

00:33:50.000 Up to a certain point, obviously.

00:33:51.000 So, you know, I was reading about the revolutions in Russia, Tsar Nicholas and things like that, the Spanish Civil War, Weimar Germany, and there were things that happened that were considered to be major catalysts of revolution civil war that were not on par with one leader weaponizing government against his rival political faction to this degree.

00:34:11.000 Some of these major political moments were like a referendum was held and power was transferred from the executive branch to the, you know, to parliament.

00:34:19.000 And it's like that was considered a great revolution and things like that.

00:34:21.000 It was like a tremendous moment happened when the monarchy transferred certain executive powers to parl- for parliamentary decisions and they call that the great upheaval or something like that.

00:34:30.000 This is Joe Biden is trying to physically remove his principal rival because he's losing in the polls.

00:34:39.000 I don't know about because he's losing in the polls.

00:34:40.000 I think he would do that even if he was winning the polls.

00:34:43.000 What I mean is like, we can look at the polls and see Biden's losing, and it would seem that the only reason to really go for Trump in this way is because they know they can't win.

00:34:51.000 Like I said earlier today, I think that this is bigger than Trump.

00:34:56.000 I think that this is about making a statement about people that are outsiders, not Even really attempting to get into the office and kind of bust your way into the inner circle and try to make changes and make demands.

00:35:11.000 I really think that the established bureaucracy really hates Trump because he would have made significant changes if they allowed him to.

00:35:22.000 We got a statement.

00:35:23.000 I want to read Trump's statement.

00:35:24.000 He responded to the indictment.

00:35:25.000 He says, This is nothing more than the latest corrupt chapter in the continued pathetic attempt by the Biden crime family and their weaponized Department of Justice to interfere in the 2024 presidential election in which President Trump is the undisputed frontrunner and leading by substantial margins.

00:35:39.000 But why did they wait two and a half years to bring these fake charges right in the middle of President Trump's winning campaign for 2024?

00:35:47.000 Why was it announced the day after the big crooked Joe Biden scandal broke out from the halls of Congress?

00:35:53.000 The answer is election interference.

00:35:55.000 The lawlessness of these persecutions of President Trump and his supporters is reminiscent of Nazi Germany in the 1930s, the former Soviet Union, and the authoritarian dictatorial regimes and other authoritarian dictatorial regimes.

00:36:08.000 President Trump has always followed the law and the Constitution with advice from many highly accomplished attorneys.

00:36:12.000 These un-American witch hunts will fail, and President Trump will be re-elected to the White House so we can save our country from the abuse, incompetence, and corruption that is running through the veins of our country at levels never seen before.

00:36:23.000 Three years ago we had strong borders, energy independence, no inflation, and a great economy.

00:36:28.000 Today we are a nation in decline.

00:36:30.000 President Trump will not be deterred by disgraceful and unprecedented political targeting.

00:36:36.000 Well, I think we were still in decline.

00:36:38.000 We were just in a bubble. 0.75

00:36:40.000 The Federal Reserve screwed us.

00:36:41.000 2007 was the obvious example of how we're in decline.

00:36:44.000 We've been in decline since we went on fiat currency.

00:36:46.000 So I can't stand when Trump takes credit for a booming economy when it was a bubble.

00:36:50.000 But other than that part, this sounds about right.

00:36:56.000 Politically persecute your opponents.

00:36:58.000 In the middle of an election season, the day after your son gets shown for being corrupt.

00:37:03.000 I mean, this is what they claimed Trump was doing.

00:37:06.000 They claimed Trump was trying to dig up dirt on Joe Biden.

00:37:09.000 And that was impeachable offense.

00:37:12.000 Joe Biden is literally indicting the frontrunner and they're like, it's a good thing.

00:37:18.000 These are evil people.

00:37:19.000 They know what they're doing. 0.97

00:37:21.000 They know they are evil.

00:37:23.000 Yeah, I agree with Phil there.

00:37:24.000 Well, it's typical blame others of what you're guilty of.

00:37:26.000 That's really what we're seeing here, and they're just going to continue to do so.

00:37:29.000 And the Republicans do nothing.

00:37:30.000 They're guarding that inner circle of the Uniparty. 0.99

00:37:32.000 Like, Hillary's still pissed that Trump said, you'd be in jail on the state. 1.00

00:37:36.000 Humiliated her.

00:37:37.000 Like, she's not going to let that go.

00:37:38.000 She's going to watch till her last day on earth.

00:37:40.000 She's going to be wanting to make that guy's life miserable. 1.00

00:37:42.000 And she has a lot of connections and a lot of power in the U.S. 1.00

00:37:44.000 government, obviously.

00:37:48.000 And that's why I get to the point where I'm like, nothing I can do can help this system.

00:37:53.000 Nothing I can do politically can help.

00:37:55.000 I don't even want Trump to get elected, but if I want to, nothing I can do could help him get elected.

00:37:59.000 Nothing.

00:38:00.000 All I can do is make hit records and maybe people will cry in their sleep and realize that life's not so bad and forgive each other.

00:38:06.000 I mean, helping someone get elected is quite simple.

00:38:09.000 If you go to someone and say, register to vote and vote for Trump, you are helping Trump get elected.

00:38:14.000 I just got blackmailed right there.

00:38:15.000 The reason I said, no, I feel like nothing I can do is because I feel like if I got a hundred million, if a million people registered, it would just, it doesn't matter.

00:38:21.000 Cause I don't, I can't read the vote tally.

00:38:23.000 You got to prove to me that that voting system is legit.

00:38:25.000 If you're going to do that in secret, then I don't have any evidence that you're doing it right.

00:38:28.000 It's like secret ballot has always been the thing in the U S like, well, we don't, we don't get to see.

00:38:36.000 Who voted for who, but the idea that we take all the ballots, send them to a private company that goes behind a black curtain and comes out and says, trust us, this guy won.

00:38:45.000 Yeah, BS.

00:38:48.000 We can't work that way.

00:38:50.000 And so now we're seeing there's been like court rulings overturning these attempts to stop universal mail-in voting and things like this.

00:38:57.000 If it comes down to ease of access for random people to vote, Democrats are for it.

00:39:02.000 If it comes down to security, Republicans are for it.

00:39:06.000 I'm neither.

00:39:07.000 I just want, like, secure... I mean, is secure the right word?

00:39:09.000 Sorry to interrupt you.

00:39:10.000 What were you about to say?

00:39:11.000 I just want transparency in my election process.

00:39:13.000 So that's security.

00:39:14.000 Yeah.

00:39:15.000 That's what the right wants, and that's what this whole thing has been about, is we want fair and free elections.

00:39:19.000 We want transparent elections.

00:39:21.000 You have to.

00:39:22.000 But then I could see, like, if the mob truly voted in a psychopath, you want, like, someone behind this curtain being like, uh, psychopaths can't get in or we'll lose everything.

00:39:32.000 Okay, let's... No.

00:39:34.000 Well, I mean, you look at, like, if you're actually talking about a psychopath, right? 0.97

00:39:37.000 Like, majority of CEOs are psychopaths. 0.89

00:39:39.000 I'd say a good majority of our presidents have been psychopaths, because you need that extra edge. 0.98

00:39:43.000 I mean, I say God, you know, gifted us psychopaths for a reason.

00:39:46.000 Granted, not a lot of them are great, but we need them in society.

00:39:49.000 They're a natural occurring Let me read this tweet from Jack Posobiec.

00:39:52.000 He said the Trump case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan.

00:39:57.000 According to the court docket, Chutkan, an Obama appointee, is the only federal judge

00:40:02.000 in D.C. who has sentenced J6 defendants to sentences longer than the government had requested.

00:40:10.000 Very obvious where this is going.

00:40:13.000 Y'all are in a civil war, and people like to ignore it, but just read about the US Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, the Russian Revolutions, there was more than one.

00:40:23.000 Read about the French Revolution, more than one.

00:40:25.000 It took them like 75 years to figure out how to have a proper government.

00:40:33.000 First they had a revolution, and then Napoleon became emperor.

00:40:36.000 And then another revolution.

00:40:38.000 They had a revolution that went wrong, and then they started killing people.

00:40:40.000 That was the big problem.

00:40:41.000 That was back before Napoleon.

00:40:43.000 And then after Robespierre was killed, there was some turmoil, then Napoleon was one of them.

00:40:46.000 But read about Russia.

00:40:47.000 He was like, I'll take it.

00:40:48.000 And the Bolsheviks. 0.73

00:40:49.000 Russia is particularly interesting.

00:40:51.000 Failed leadership.

00:40:52.000 People were unhappy, is a simple way to put it.

00:40:54.000 And so you take a look at what's going on now, and this reaches the level of historical...

00:40:59.000 Historical revolution, civil war, or collapse.

00:41:01.000 And it makes sense on the timeline of history, because all the cultures of Earth are blending now, and causing mass chaos in the United States particularly as the frontrunner. 0.97

00:41:10.000 So it makes sense that we'd be facing revolutionary pressure, or civil unrest, or civil war-like pressure.

00:41:17.000 It makes total sense.

00:41:18.000 Now we've just got to see, how do we fortify against it?

00:41:21.000 Because if it's obvious that it's happening, it makes sense that it would be happening, then there's got to be an antidote.

00:41:26.000 But how do you fortify against something when you don't control the institutions?

00:41:30.000 We don't control any sort of power whatsoever regarding the institutions and the institutions are going to be where the majority of the ideological, basically brainwashing is carried out.

00:41:40.000 I guess you build your own institutions.

00:41:42.000 It's challenging when you're up against a monopoly, like Mines is like a social network that's free software, has no political leanings.

00:41:49.000 You know, Daily Wire is a good example of something that appeared out of, or like Angel Studios, you know, that's kind of a new institution that can make whatever movie they want and it'll get put in movie theaters around the world regardless of the gatekeeps.

00:42:04.000 That's one way to do it.

00:42:05.000 Well, let's talk about this.

00:42:06.000 While they are accusing Donald Trump of instigating January 6th, we have new evidence as to who actually was behind January 6th.

00:42:17.000 And it was, ladies and gentlemen, Joe Rogan!

00:42:20.000 That's right.

00:42:21.000 Ray Epps' attorney responds to allegations of Klein's involvement in January 6th.

00:42:26.000 He said the absurdity of the conspiracy theory does not stand in the way of it being spread and weaponized to harm Ray.

00:42:32.000 If Mr. Rogan is truly interested in focusing on who instigated the attack on the Capitol, he would find more truth looking at the mirror than he does in focusing on a wedding venue owner from Arizona.

00:42:44.000 So basically my eyes must have lied to me on January 6th when I witnessed Ray Epps whisper to Ryan Sample and the barriers went down.

00:42:51.000 It must have actually been Joe Rogan doing the whisper in that day.

00:42:53.000 Ray Epps is on camera yelling at people to go into the Capitol.

00:42:56.000 He's on camera also holding the Trump thing and ramming cops.

00:42:58.000 And then he's on the front line as the barricades are torn down.

00:43:01.000 Well, I don't know.

00:43:02.000 He was ramming cops?

00:43:03.000 He was holding a barrier that eventually ended up ramming cops.

00:43:06.000 A huge Trump sign that they picked up sideways and they had rammed into officers.

00:43:10.000 But that means I can tell you that the dude told people to go in the building and that is on the front line when they breached the Capitol grounds.

00:43:16.000 That's enough for me.

00:43:17.000 Well, and then I remember seeing him multiple times throughout the day on the initial breach, you know, in the secondary breach.

00:43:22.000 I mean, right as everything really hit the fan, that's when he backed off.

00:43:26.000 He just backed off and kind of faded away into the crowd and just watched it all take place.

00:43:31.000 So I don't know if any of this proves that he's a fed.

00:43:34.000 A lot of people think he is.

00:43:35.000 But I do think it's absolutely fascinating that the lawyer is trying to say that Joe Rogan in any way instigated January 6th, when Rogan's never even had Trump on his podcast.

00:43:43.000 And he refuses to have Trump on his podcast, from what I'm aware of.

00:43:48.000 I don't know if that's... I think that's the media exaggerating.

00:43:50.000 I think it's more like Joe probably doesn't care all that much.

00:43:54.000 I mean, he already has, what, the largest podcast in the entire world.

00:43:56.000 He hasn't had Biden on either, so.

00:43:58.000 He wanted to have him on early on, 2019 or something, and then I've heard that he doesn't.

00:44:03.000 He's kind of given up.

00:44:04.000 He's like, I'm not getting involved with that.

00:44:06.000 I don't know, it feels like after the Spotify deal, it's a different show.

00:44:10.000 Yeah.

00:44:10.000 Absolutely.

00:44:11.000 Pre-Spotify, it was like the craziest and biggest guess ever.

00:44:15.000 Alex Jones.

00:44:16.000 And now, post-Spotify, it's people he finds interesting and wants to hang out with and just talk to.

00:44:20.000 It seems like he was able to, like, with a guaranteed revenue stream, just make the show about the conversations he wants to have.

00:44:28.000 But, I digress.

00:44:30.000 This is the narrative that they push, right?

00:44:33.000 In the indictment against Donald Trump, they say he was spreading false narratives.

00:44:36.000 What they're really saying is, he spread a narrative that defied the corporate press.

00:44:41.000 What they're saying here now is, Joe Rogan speaks a narrative that defies the corporate press.

00:44:47.000 Therefore, you are the enemy.

00:44:50.000 You are their enemy, and you are the one causing all the problems.

00:44:54.000 The solution of course I think is cultural.

00:44:56.000 Anyone that pushes back gets thrown into the basket of deplorables.

00:44:59.000 Anyone that doesn't totally accept the official narrative, you're cast into the Trump supporting 0.99

00:45:07.000 racist bigot, misogynist, sexist, the whole mind. 0.98

00:45:13.000 It works. 0.99

00:45:14.000 But at the same time, I think it's going to reach a point because it's happening so much more consistently with people that are clearly not Trump supporters, aren't, you know, right wing fascists or what they're being labeled, that you're throwing so many people that don't qualify into this basket that eventually the basket is going to be too full and you're going to be outnumbered because they're turning on their own.

00:45:33.000 I mean, in a lot of these cases.

00:45:34.000 Also, if enough people speak out against the corporate media at the same time, people don't get grabbed.

00:45:40.000 It's easy to go after individuals after a couple of weeks go by.

00:45:44.000 You're like, all right, that one guy made too much noise about it on Tuesday.

00:45:48.000 But if enough people are just launching without the obvious fraudulence or mistakes and things, it's...

00:45:56.000 This is what I'm saying about culture.

00:45:57.000 If the culture is you get a million views on TikTok and YouTube when you insult Joe Biden, Joe Biden loses the election.

00:46:06.000 That's the culture that needs to be built.

00:46:07.000 That's why they employ these, like, young Gen Z influencers.

00:46:12.000 Well, and they also allow the left-wing influencers on, and then immediately remove the right-wing influencers from what I've seen.

00:46:18.000 I mean, I had a TikTok, it was, like, 260,000 followers.

00:46:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:20.000 It's- It's- Striked, gone, banned, no chance.

00:46:22.000 We're not even- It's not even- Timcast IRL's banned.

00:46:24.000 Yeah, it's not, but it's not even- We may have launched a new one, though.

00:46:27.000 It's not just the political people.

00:46:28.000 Like, Ronnie Radke just got his TikTok.

00:46:31.000 Ronnie Radke's the singer of a band called Falling In Reverse.

00:46:34.000 Um, and they're great.

00:46:36.000 Massive, massive.

00:46:37.000 He got, he got banned?

00:46:38.000 He just got his TikTok banned because he was making, talking about trans people.

00:46:41.000 And I'm not sure exactly what he said.

00:46:43.000 I didn't, I don't have the, uh, the stuff in front of me.

00:46:45.000 The trans script.

00:46:47.000 Get it?

00:46:49.000 Well, I mean, I don't he was he was talking about trans people.

00:46:53.000 I don't know what he said.

00:46:54.000 I don't know what he said.

00:46:54.000 But and they they banned him.

00:46:56.000 And like I said, this guy, I mean, he is fairly like controversial in the in the rock and heavy metal world in that he's he's he you know, he's a rock rock star.

00:47:09.000 You know I mean he I think he threw a mic stand into the crowd one time and he gets into beef with people on Twitter and and you know he doesn't do what he's quote-unquote supposed to do but they you know they they booted him off of off of TikTok and And that's, he's not a political guy.

00:47:29.000 He just said something that was politically incorrect.

00:47:31.000 It sounds a lot like the guy sitting right next to me.

00:47:34.000 I'm, well, I mean, I've said some things.

00:47:37.000 A rock singer.

00:47:38.000 That's Ronnie Radke's description on, uh, fallinginreverse.com.

00:47:41.000 I'm waiting to Google your name and see, uh, you know, the right wing label slapped on your Wikipedia.

00:47:46.000 Oh, well, I don't know about my Wikipedia, but if you go to any of the, uh, metal blogs, most of them.

00:47:52.000 Yeah.

00:47:52.000 I've seen, I've seen those articles before.

00:47:54.000 They don't like me and I don't care because they're scum. 0.99

00:47:56.000 I've never had a tick tock. 1.00

00:47:58.000 Anecdotally, I don't.

00:47:59.000 I don't hate people involved in the Chinese Communist Party.

00:48:02.000 It's a little concerning to have a uniparty dictating central planning of a system.

00:48:07.000 I don't hate those people. 0.96

00:48:08.000 I will never use I should maybe never never say never but I have no interest in using that manipulative trash tick tock. 0.97

00:48:14.000 But you look at the massive reach, though.

00:48:17.000 TikTok, the amount of views they bring in, it blows other platforms.

00:48:20.000 And anybody can go viral.

00:48:22.000 That's the nice thing about TikTok, but the right needs to use that.

00:48:25.000 That's the sad reality of it.

00:48:26.000 You need the right on TikTok.

00:48:28.000 You need their ideas because that's where young kids, I mean, that's what they do all day.

00:48:32.000 They just swipe and swipe.

00:48:33.000 It doesn't say on your Wikipedia page that you're right-wing, but it does smear you pretty bad.

00:48:37.000 It says that you're a fan of Taylor Swift.

00:48:39.000 You know, sometimes the internet gets something right, you know.

00:48:46.000 It just says that you're a recurring guest on this show and you're a libertarian or something.

00:48:49.000 That's cool.

00:48:50.000 Moved to New Hampshire to join the libertarian movement.

00:48:53.000 So when you said everyone's got to use the, or you got to use TikTok to get through to the people, I feel like that's like saying, here, if we were in a war or something, you're like, here, use the enemy's weapons that are tracking your every move because they're better weapons.

00:49:03.000 Yeah, but you're going to be tracked regardless.

00:49:05.000 Look at Instagram, look at Twitter.

00:49:07.000 I mean, all of these are data harvesting companies.

00:49:08.000 You're tracked no matter what.

00:49:10.000 You have an electronic device in your pocket at all times.

00:49:13.000 You know, the TikTok isn't going to track you any better than all these other apps that are harvesting.

00:49:17.000 It's not the apps themselves, it's the phones.

00:49:19.000 I don't want the CCP to be tracking me.

00:49:21.000 I think the least of your worries though are the CCP, right?

00:49:24.000 Like your own government has been weaponized against you right now.

00:49:28.000 They're the ones you should be worried about.

00:49:29.000 Of course, CCP is a threat.

00:49:31.000 I don't know.

00:49:31.000 I mean, I think it's much more threatening.

00:49:33.000 The Chinese Communist Party is much more threatening to American civilians.

00:49:36.000 I agree.

00:49:36.000 And you don't want to be on TikTok because this idea that you join TikTok for the purpose of engaging in that conflict perhaps makes sense to a certain degree, but we want to force the conversation onto the platforms where we have more control.

00:49:48.000 Yeah, I can agree with that.

00:49:49.000 But at the same time, TikTok you can transfer those, you know, your audience off of that to the necessary platforms like that.

00:49:55.000 That's actually really hard.

00:49:57.000 That's why they ban you. 0.93

00:49:58.000 Yeah, well, TikTok, that was my hardest thing is, you know, I had 260,000 followers, but it was the actual return rate to your other platforms.

00:50:05.000 But if you gather enough followers, you get enough engagement, you do get a little bit of return rate there.

00:50:09.000 But you also want to make sure you're on these platforms so you can push back to the extent you're able to push back.

00:50:15.000 Well, there's upsides and downsides, of course, to it all.

00:50:18.000 But I think in the end, you know, it would be beneficial for the right at least to have some sort of presence on the app.

00:50:25.000 Yeah, the only problem with having TikTok is having it on your phone that you use and it's constantly trying to get into your phone book and stuff like that.

00:50:34.000 That's the problem.

00:50:35.000 Otherwise, the access and the reach that you can get, there's nothing bad about that.

00:50:40.000 To be honest with you, I wish that Instagram and other social media sites would Be a little more forthcoming about how you massage the algorithm and how you make sure to get your stuff in.

00:50:53.000 Because if you go to TikTok and you go to the creator's page or whatever, they give you a list right down the list and you can you can hit all the bullet points and you will go from having no one to having tons and tons of followers.

00:51:06.000 TikTok is the only platform where you can gain hundreds of thousands of followers in less than 24 hours.

00:51:11.000 It's insane because there's so many people.

00:51:15.000 I don't know if it's real or not.

00:51:16.000 I don't think it is.

00:51:16.000 Sorry, Phil.

00:51:17.000 I don't think it is.

00:51:18.000 Yeah, I would not be surprised if they're shoving AI followers down your throat to make Americans think they're getting something out of it.

00:51:24.000 We've talked about it before.

00:51:25.000 The way you start a social media network, anyone can do this right now.

00:51:28.000 Start a social media network.

00:51:31.000 Put out advertisements to, uh, you know, certain age demographic, younger age demographic, 18 year olds.

00:51:37.000 When they sign up, start giving them followers rather quickly.

00:51:40.000 Yep.

00:51:40.000 Fake ones.

00:51:41.000 And they feel like they're getting social- It's a dopamine hit.

00:51:44.000 Right.

00:51:44.000 Over and over again.

00:51:44.000 Then when they post, you give them more likes.

00:51:46.000 Then what happens is 18 year old kid, who's a freshman in college or a senior in high school, goes to his friends and goes, tch, I'm on Lebonti.com and I've already got 10,000 followers.

00:51:55.000 And they're like, you have 10,000 followers? 0.99

00:51:57.000 Like, you're on that stupid old school YouTube. 0.99

00:51:59.000 I'm on Labonte.com. 1.00

00:52:01.000 And then all of a sudden, these other kids are like, I want to get followers too.

00:52:04.000 And they all start signing up.

00:52:05.000 All their followers are fake, but this attracts everyone to the platform.

00:52:09.000 So I don't believe TikTok's real.

00:52:11.000 At this point, maybe to a certain degree, but I still think, you know, I'll just put it this way.

00:52:17.000 They, in my opinion, there's a strong likelihood that they did something to that effect.

00:52:23.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:52:24.000 I mean, I remember one of my first videos ever was like a million likes.

00:52:27.000 It was insane.

00:52:27.000 Wasn't it two different apps before?

00:52:29.000 It was called, like, Musical.ly and Live.ly or something?

00:52:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:31.000 Well, and it used to be a dancing app.

00:52:33.000 Musical.ly, it was like a lip-syncing dancing app, and then they merged two apps and turned it into TikTok.

00:52:38.000 Do you get paid on TikTok?

00:52:39.000 You can for creator funds, but only if you tow the lines and you're making dancing TikToks.

00:52:44.000 You know, as a political commentator, you're not getting paid for TikTok.

00:52:46.000 So your first video went viral?

00:52:49.000 My first very video, it was when I was painting murals when I was doing activism before journalism, got over a million likes.

00:52:55.000 How soon?

00:52:56.000 How fast?

00:52:56.000 That was within four days.

00:52:58.000 It was insane.

00:52:58.000 And I went over from, I mean, I think I had 100,000 plus followers after just one video.

00:53:03.000 And then every single video I posted after that, Well over, I mean, a million views.

00:53:08.000 It was, you know, there was good engagement, but you don't know if that's real or fake or not at the same time.

00:53:13.000 So there were two apps.

00:53:14.000 TikTok did launch and there was also Musical.ly.

00:53:16.000 They bought Musical.ly and then merged it in and then got rid of Musical.ly.

00:53:19.000 Musical.ly was the lip syncing app.

00:53:21.000 Yep.

00:53:22.000 I knew people who had accounts and they were telling me how I got to get on the platform because it was way better.

00:53:27.000 And they have hundreds of thousands of followers.

00:53:29.000 Or one person was like, I have a million followers.

00:53:31.000 And I was like, let me pull up the app.

00:53:32.000 And I pulled it up.

00:53:33.000 And it was like all the comments were just like, sweet, rad, nice, so cool.

00:53:37.000 The most automated responses ever.

00:53:39.000 And I was like, I don't think you actually...

00:53:41.000 No, you don't have that many at all.

00:53:43.000 But you know the thing is, they don't care.

00:53:45.000 All they want to do is go to advertisers and be able to say, hey look, they may be lying.

00:53:50.000 I'm not going to say it.

00:53:51.000 I'm not going to accuse anyone of committing a crime.

00:53:54.000 Then these creators and influencers can go to ad agencies and say, I get a billion views per month.

00:53:59.000 And they'll be like, wow, what do you want?

00:54:01.000 And that's it.

00:54:02.000 And you get money.

00:54:02.000 That could be a scandal that's uncovered later where we're like, wow.

00:54:06.000 Yeah, I'll tell you about a meeting I had, uh, with Discovery, in, uh, Discovery Channel, in San Francisco, where we sat down, and this is probably ten years ago, this is probably eight years ago, and they said, what do you think about Facebook?

00:54:20.000 Yeah, this was probably about nine, eight or nine years ago.

00:54:22.000 What do you think about Facebook videos versus YouTube?

00:54:24.000 And I said, YouTube is clearly where it's at in terms of cultural influence.

00:54:27.000 This is a decade ago, but mind what, mind you.

00:54:29.000 And then the one guy, this one guy goes, yeah, but on Facebook, we're getting ten times the views.

00:54:34.000 And I'm like, Are you really getting the views?

00:54:38.000 Or is someone scrolling past the video and it's adding to the count?

00:54:42.000 Whereas YouTube is someone actually watches the video.

00:54:45.000 And it shows you the average watch time in a much more detail.

00:54:48.000 In this lunch, it was more than just Discovery.

00:54:50.000 I can't remember who said it because it's been like a decade, but someone said something like, you know what, ultimately it doesn't matter because these are the numbers we deliver to advertisers.

00:54:57.000 Yep.

00:54:57.000 And so they were like, let's just go to the advertisers and say, we got a hundred million views.

00:55:02.000 And I think there's a lawsuit over this.

00:55:04.000 Because advertisers were buying views on Facebook for these videos.

00:55:08.000 They were buying impressions, and they weren't getting delivered anything legitimate.

00:55:13.000 I want, like, on YouTube, all my subscribers, I want a button that will let me clear anyone that subscribed to me that hasn't logged into YouTube in the last year.

00:55:20.000 I want them removed.

00:55:21.000 I don't want those numbers.

00:55:22.000 I want real numbers, even if it's less.

00:55:24.000 Yo, Ronnie said that men can't have a period, and that's why he lost his TikTok account.

00:55:32.000 Wow.

00:55:33.000 Honestly, worth it.

00:55:35.000 Because he's totally telling the truth.

00:55:37.000 When I got into Minds, we started building free software. 0.98

00:55:39.000 I became a bit of a zealot, like, I'm just gonna stop using the proprietary crap. 0.64

00:55:42.000 I'm gonna stop using YouTube, stop using Twitter, stop using Facebook. 0.94

00:55:45.000 And Bill, the CEO of Minds, convinced me, like, just keep using that stuff.

00:55:49.000 It feels dirty, but, like, it's market research.

00:55:52.000 So maybe there's an argument to use TikTok.

00:55:54.000 I just feel like I'll get banned within, you know, a month or two if I talk about free speech.

00:55:57.000 Let's jump to this story from TimGas.com.

00:56:00.000 New 2024 polls show Biden alternately tying with and sliding behind Trump.

00:56:07.000 Despite the possibility of four separate sets of indictments, support for Trump remains strong.

00:56:13.000 This is bad news.

00:56:13.000 They say a key strategy for Biden's re-election bid will be branding Trumpism and MAGA threat to America, casting Trump supporters as far-right authoritarians, as Axios described.

00:56:21.000 And let me also add, personally, one tactic of Joe Biden is to criminally indict his opponent because he can't win legitimately.

00:56:30.000 Interactive polls show that Donald Trump is beating Biden by 3 points.

00:56:34.000 Among moderate independents, he's up 9.

00:56:36.000 In swing states, Trump is up 9.

00:56:39.000 This is bad news for Joe Biden and may explain why they're so desperately going after Trump with these indictments.

00:56:46.000 Because Trump's gonna win.

00:56:47.000 And you know, we had people, we had, you know, Liam last night, he was convinced Trump could not win because the deep state would not allow it to happen.

00:56:54.000 And I'm just like, they allowed it in 2016 then?

00:56:55.000 Is that the argument?

00:56:57.000 In 2016, the deep state went like, oops, Trump won?

00:57:01.000 Maybe?

00:57:01.000 I think so.

00:57:02.000 Because the way he was saying, and what I agree with, is that now that he said, when I get back in, all of you in the deep state are going to be fired.

00:57:08.000 They're like, okay, this isn't the Trump from 2016.

00:57:11.000 Now it's a different guy with a different motive.

00:57:13.000 And I still don't think it means they're powerful enough to stop him from winning.

00:57:17.000 They can certainly throw roadblocks in the way and try and go up against him and criminally charge him.

00:57:22.000 That's what they're doing right now.

00:57:23.000 Right.

00:57:23.000 But it does not mean... Look, his polls are going to skyrocket because of this.

00:57:26.000 His fundraising is going to skyrocket because of this.

00:57:28.000 They cannot stop him.

00:57:30.000 They're playing the game in desperation.

00:57:33.000 They are thrashing about as they drown.

00:57:35.000 Well, the reality of it is, is all this propaganda and the fake indictments wouldn't be necessary if they didn't think he could win.

00:57:41.000 They would just leave him alone.

00:57:42.000 Exactly.

00:57:43.000 And so, what I see with this is, as we have tremendous victories with, say, Bud Light and things like this on cultural fronts and Sound of Freedom, they're going for the only thing they have left, which is raw government power.

00:57:55.000 They are losing culturally.

00:57:57.000 Their shows are getting roasted.

00:58:00.000 Alternate independent media is starting to rise.

00:58:03.000 Bud Light lost a quarter of its market share from endorsing this stuff.

00:58:06.000 Not popular.

00:58:08.000 Nobody likes it.

00:58:09.000 Trump's popularity is going up.

00:58:10.000 He's improving in the polls.

00:58:12.000 The only thing they have left is...

00:58:15.000 Truncheons.

00:58:17.000 Do you think that if we replaced a lot of the people in the government that it would work better?

00:58:21.000 Do you think it's a problem is personnel or is it structure?

00:58:24.000 Both.

00:58:25.000 Eliminate.

00:58:25.000 Like eliminate jobs?

00:58:27.000 Well, hold on.

00:58:28.000 You replace a lot of people, it'll be better for sure.

00:58:30.000 You eliminate a lot of positions in departments and replace people, we can fix the problem.

00:58:38.000 It's just like with the FBI.

00:58:39.000 You can't just get new people.

00:58:41.000 You need to gut the agency, figure out what powers they have, what powers they don't, so then they can't go out on a rampage like they have been the past two years again.

00:58:50.000 But let's add into the mix the other question in this presidential debate.

00:58:54.000 If Trump is indicted and removed, will Ron DeSantis be the nominee?

00:58:59.000 And ultimately, let's just talk a little bit about where Ron DeSantis' campaign is at.

00:59:04.000 And my friends, the latest reporting that's come out about Ron DeSantis' campaign is, I'll call it heartbreaking.

00:59:12.000 Because I think back to the promise we saw with a Ron DeSantis campaign.

00:59:16.000 Somebody who was pushing good culture war policy, who was pushing a lot of the same policies as Trump, but with more tact, youth and vigor.

00:59:25.000 And then Ron DeSantis Burned it all to the ground.

00:59:29.000 And I do hold him personally responsible.

00:59:32.000 I understand that it's his PR and communications team that are ultimately syncing everything around him, but the fact that he has not fired Christina Pasha at this point, despite every insane error she's made, he's just like, nah, keep doing your thing, even though he's collapsed in the polls.

00:59:49.000 He's basically no longer even in the race.

00:59:51.000 Well, you saw the statement that, like, the internal statement that was leaked of, what was it?

00:59:55.000 Hit the brakes on what doesn't work, hit the gas on what does.

00:59:58.000 It's like, then you think you would hit the brake on Christina Pushbaugh, because this is clearly not working for this campaign. 1.00

01:00:03.000 This, who said this story?

01:00:04.000 Was that DeSantis himself?

01:00:05.000 It was, it was the communications director, you know, basically sending it out to the influencers.

01:00:09.000 This story from Semaphore about Ron DeSantis blew my effing mind.

01:00:14.000 The video with the son in red, the black son, was made by his campaign.

01:00:20.000 They outsourced the video to a third party, and the dude who made it retweeted it.

01:00:25.000 They fired him, threw him under the bus.

01:00:27.000 This is the video they made criticizing Trump's stance on LGBT issues, made in-house, outsourced, so they could have plausible deniability.

01:00:40.000 The video in which Ron DeSantis is appearing before a spiraling Nazi Sanenrad symbol with

01:00:46.000 soldiers marching towards it was made by a campaign staffer and then sent to a third

01:00:57.000 And we have it here, check this out.

01:00:59.000 The Scoop.

01:01:00.000 Senior aides of DeSantis oversaw the campaign's high-risk strategy of laundering incendiary videos produced by their staff through outlet anonymous Twitter accounts, a set of internal campaign communications obtained by Semaphore reveals.

01:01:11.000 The videos include two that have created recurring distractions for his campaign.

01:01:17.000 Check it out, they say, Screenshots of the War Room chat reviewed by Semaphore included staffers praising a widely derided and since-deleted video originally posted on an anonymous account, Ron DeSantis FanCams, that included a version of the Sonnenrad, a symbol associated with Nazi Germany.

01:01:34.000 Quote, This belongs in the Smithsonian, wrote Kyle Lamb, the campaign's director of research and data, before the video blew up in the campaign's face.

01:01:42.000 He was among the 38 staffers laid off in recent weeks amid a campaign reset.

01:01:46.000 Messages viewed by Semaphore also show members of the War Room group actively sharing images to put in the video while it was in the editing process, though not the sun in red symbol that was in the final version.

01:01:58.000 The big issue here that I want to bring up too, check it out.

01:02:01.000 You should have that guy on the show.

01:02:03.000 I wonder if he'll talk.

01:02:03.000 united ownership over the LGBT and sign and read videos, which

01:02:07.000 staffers retweeted after they were posted by anonymous accounts. They recently fired one aid Nate Hockman, who

01:02:13.000 shared the latter video and according to an axios report created

01:02:16.000 it.

01:02:17.000 This is a show I wonder if you'll talk Oh, you know, I bet you would like you just let me just tell you, Tim, Tim

01:02:25.000 cast has reached out. This is a while ago to the dissonance

01:02:29.000 campaign to have someone come on the show for a polite normal

01:02:32.000 discussion And they refused.

01:02:35.000 I was just thinking, I think Ron needs less social media presence, but more focused, honest stuff, but then I'm like, well, why am I thinking that?

01:02:42.000 When I think of Vivek Ramaswamy, I think more social media.

01:02:46.000 More.

01:02:46.000 I don't think even if they knock Trump out, I don't think DeSantis has a chance.

01:02:50.000 I mean after everything his campaign is just crashing and burning day by day worse and worse.

01:02:55.000 I think Vivek is the guy. I mean if he steps up, Vivek seems like a much more optional candidate.

01:03:01.000 Here's the thing with Vivek.

01:03:03.000 Someone will accuse him of something and then he will outright address it.

01:03:11.000 He'll make a statement, and nobody else is doing that.

01:03:13.000 I mean, with the WEF stuff, with everything, he came out, and then when Trump was raided, he came out and said, this is unprecedented, we can't allow this.

01:03:20.000 He's the only one doing that.

01:03:21.000 I'm gonna tell you exactly what I think about the DeSantis campaign.

01:03:24.000 And, uh, I'm sure I'm gonna piss off a lot of people, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

01:03:29.000 I'll tell you what my view is.

01:03:33.000 Some Trump individuals, I don't know who or what the deal is, posted a photo of DeSantis' team, and there was a picture of Christina Pasha with rug burns on her knees, as if to imply something untoward about her.

01:03:46.000 This is around the time this whole thing got kicked off, where all of a sudden DeSantis supporters just started rabidly snarling and spitting in people's faces.

01:03:57.000 I think she was emotionally slighted, triggered to the point where she started using the DeSantis campaign as a vehicle for emotional satisfaction against the people who insulted her.

01:04:06.000 I think you're completely right, and the same thing happened again when I think it was, uh, Alex Brusewitz here released a picture, which was clearly a meme, uh, with Pushpaw, and then it was George Soros sitting next to him, which was clearly photoshopped, and it went viral.

01:04:19.000 Wasn't he sitting- there was a picture where it was like in the background of George Soros or something like that?

01:04:22.000 Yeah, it was like a clearly photoshopped George Soros, it wasn't even a good photoshop, and then they just went rabid on everybody, it seems like.

01:04:30.000 And what happens is, you've got a handful of people who are, like, Trump influences or whatever, who play dirty, or whatever.

01:04:39.000 And so, their response is to attack any and everyone who dare insult them, or even question them in any way.

01:04:48.000 The fact that, you know, what we've seen with the reaction, you know, Mike Cernovich tweeting about it, how the Desantis campaign has just started attacking everybody, You know, having talked to a few other people, not Mike, but a few people about what it is, it seems that Christina Pasha, initially everybody, they were big fans.

01:05:07.000 She was working with Dennis, she was going for the media, she was calling out their BS, and then this rug burn knee thing happened, and all of a sudden it was just like, I, I, look, I get it.

01:05:18.000 It's like really insulting, condescending, demeaning, misogynistic, whatever you want to call it.

01:05:22.000 But that was the moment where it seemed like something flipped and now anybody who had a bad word to say was just getting bitten, was just getting spat on and slapped around for it doesn't matter.

01:05:34.000 They declared war after that.

01:05:35.000 Well, and after this, there's no way that the DeSantis campaign can succeed because you just marginalized and pushed away all these people that are loyal to Trump.

01:05:44.000 These people that, yeah, if Trump gets knocked out, they probably would have voted for DeSantis, but why would they vote for him now when they've essentially just been, I mean, hitting on him over and over again?

01:05:53.000 There's this, like, uh, pro-DeSantis account that appears to have, like, an AI deepfake avatar or whatever, has been promoted by... MaxNord?

01:06:01.000 Well, that's got a Family Guy character.

01:06:04.000 But this one made a, like, deepfake audio thing of me praising Christina Bouchard, and I'm just like, these guys have to be Trump supporters.

01:06:12.000 Because the only outcome of doing something like that is to try and get me angry so that I insult the DeSantis campaign.

01:06:20.000 And that's why I'm like, this has got to be a Trump supporter.

01:06:23.000 Like, make them look bad.

01:06:24.000 False flag DeSantis and trick them into promoting things that hurt their campaign.

01:06:29.000 Absolutely!

01:06:30.000 Yep, make sure DeSantis can't win.

01:06:32.000 But then I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you.

01:06:34.000 If Ron DeSantis won't fire Christina Pasha, it doesn't matter if it's intended to sink his campaign or not.

01:06:40.000 The man cannot deal with his campaign.

01:06:43.000 He cannot operate a campaign.

01:06:45.000 It's good that he fired the people he fired, but I can tell you this.

01:06:48.000 I know some of the people you fired should not have been fired.

01:06:52.000 Some of the people that he fired, he should have promoted and fired the senior staff.

01:06:56.000 Instead, he laid off something like 38 people.

01:07:00.000 I know some of them, and I know they're smart, and I know they understand everything I'm saying, but they're the ones who got let go.

01:07:06.000 Ron DeSantis, in this capacity, has failed miserably, and the person who's led the charge the whole way, as they've just crashed and burned, he won't fire.

01:07:14.000 Well, their messaging is absolutely terrible.

01:07:16.000 I mean, they're keeping the people that are like, look at like Jeremy Redford.

01:07:18.000 I think that's his name, right?

01:07:19.000 After Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed, you know, he came out essentially praising it.

01:07:24.000 He said, F around and find out.

01:07:25.000 And it's like the messaging does not align with anybody that supports Trump.

01:07:29.000 So how do you expect to garner these votes with keeping these people on your campaign?

01:07:32.000 I think we're learning something about Ron DeSantis.

01:07:34.000 I think we're learning that he barely won in the first place in Florida.

01:07:39.000 Trump's support helped pushed him over the edge.

01:07:41.000 How did he win so well?

01:07:43.000 I was warning about this, too.

01:07:45.000 Everyone's saying Ron DeSantis is such a good leader that he won by a million votes.

01:07:48.000 To a certain degree, I agree with that, but I also wanted to point out, as I have since the beginning, you also had mass exodus from many other states of right-leaning people or more libertarian-leaning people who went to Florida because of the policy and were guaranteed to vote in this direction.

01:08:03.000 And then people can say, yes, but that was Ron DeSantis' leadership.

01:08:06.000 Fair.

01:08:07.000 I agree.

01:08:08.000 I will add, however, it was unobstructed leadership because the legislature was on his side.

01:08:14.000 So he had a clear path to rolling these things out.

01:08:17.000 When it comes to a campaign, he can't fire the people who have failed.

01:08:22.000 Every day it gets worse.

01:08:24.000 At this point, maybe he can recover.

01:08:26.000 I'm not saying he can't.

01:08:27.000 But when you look at all the polling data, I can't remember who, one major polling agency said at this point in a primary race, no candidate polling at these numbers has ever been able to turn it around.

01:08:39.000 I think his campaign's sunken.

01:08:40.000 I don't think there's any recovering into this point.

01:08:42.000 It kind of makes me sad.

01:08:46.000 Especially after, because I don't think he did good in the Tucker interview either, where he was interviewing the candidates.

01:08:51.000 He came off as a neocon.

01:08:54.000 I mean, he just seemed like he was kind of a war hawk throughout that entire interview and seemed disingenuous.

01:08:58.000 But then you have Vivek, and I think he did the best out of anybody up there.

01:09:02.000 He was honest the entire time.

01:09:03.000 His message resonated with people, but every other candidate and even DeSantis.

01:09:07.000 I mean, after I watched that, I was off the DeSantis train completely because I was like, I don't think this guy actually believes in what he's talking about.

01:09:14.000 I will say this because we got a super chat.

01:09:15.000 This guy Nathan C says, DeSantis campaign is fine.

01:09:17.000 You guys are projecting for sure.

01:09:19.000 I don't even believe the story.

01:09:20.000 The video came from his staffer.

01:09:22.000 Any name proof?

01:09:23.000 Yes, Nate Hockman.

01:09:25.000 And I can confirm personally that I have spoken with people within the DeSantis campaign and Hockman did make the video.

01:09:33.000 Don't believe me?

01:09:34.000 Don't care.

01:09:35.000 I am telling you, that's where I'm at, because I got on the phone with people.

01:09:39.000 Like, come on.

01:09:40.000 We've been in this space for a very long time.

01:09:42.000 We know many of the people who went to work for Ron DeSantis.

01:09:45.000 In fact, I have DMs with the people in his communications staff, and we'd invited them on the show before.

01:09:51.000 But as soon as his campaign started, they were in full corporate neocon, locked down, told their people not to appear on this show because we were critical of them.

01:10:00.000 And I reached out, and I said, Did this guy do it?

01:10:05.000 He did it.

01:10:06.000 It's publicly known. 1.00

01:10:07.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

01:10:07.000 It's publicly known. 1.00

01:10:08.000 They fired the guy.

01:10:09.000 Well, they threw him under the bus.

01:10:11.000 But this is all publicly known.

01:10:13.000 I mean, this is in semaphore and axios.

01:10:16.000 I don't believe it.

01:10:17.000 But look, if you're going to sit there and be like, this is clearly not true.

01:10:20.000 It didn't happen.

01:10:20.000 Yo, they deleted the video and fired the guy.

01:10:23.000 Like, come on.

01:10:24.000 Sounds about right.

01:10:25.000 They did it.

01:10:26.000 Sounds like a leftist just denying basic reality at this point.

01:10:29.000 And you know, I understand loving Ron DeSantis and everything and trying to back him as your candidate, but there's evidence on all of these things.

01:10:35.000 There's uncountable evidence.

01:10:37.000 I had a lot of faith that Ron would come by the couple weeks after he started announced and play ball, like shoot some hoops and then do the show for a couple hours.

01:10:44.000 And it would have been awesome.

01:10:46.000 And we'd see the real guy, hear about his family, what his dreams are for the future, what he did before college.

01:10:51.000 All that cool stuff that you want to know about a guy if you're going to entrust him with that kind of power to represent you on the geopolitical stage.

01:10:57.000 But unfortunately, week three went by, week four went by, week five went by, they put out that gross deepfake, and then I've just kind of lost... I have zero faith now in Ron DeSantis.

01:11:07.000 Well you look at the difference too like socially wise.

01:11:09.000 Engaging not just with audiences on stage but engaging with supporters and fans of you.

01:11:16.000 Ron DeSantis is so awkward in person when he does this.

01:11:20.000 He clearly has no care in the world to engage.

01:11:22.000 He doesn't have charisma when he's engaging with his fans.

01:11:24.000 He'll just say two things and then he'll walk off and go do something else.

01:11:27.000 But then Trump I mean, he's sitting there, you know, signing Medal of Honor pictures, going to fast food restaurants, buying people food.

01:11:35.000 He resonates a lot more culturally than DeSantis does.

01:11:38.000 DeSantis was a VP pick.

01:11:40.000 DeSantis wanted to be the big dog.

01:11:42.000 He should have been the VP.

01:11:43.000 He could have been the VP to Trump.

01:11:44.000 He could have been...

01:11:45.000 He could have been the easy-going guy, the younger guy, that would have helped Donald Trump get the votes, especially from suburban women and things like that.

01:11:56.000 Instead, he says, no, I'm gonna be the guy.

01:11:58.000 I'm not a number two guy.

01:12:00.000 Well, now I don't think he's ever going to be the guy even in Florida again.

01:12:03.000 I mean, at this point... Well, I mean, he's turned out.

01:12:05.000 Yeah, I mean, he's going to be done in politics, I think.

01:12:08.000 I think this is a career killer for DeSantis because you try to take the helm from clearly who was the nominee, and there's no question about it, instead of just playing ball and helping the country, you know, in a state of, I would say, great need.

01:12:21.000 Let's jump to a, with a hard segue, to war.

01:12:24.000 Ladies and gentlemen, from the New York Times, drone again hits a Moscow building housing Russian ministries.

01:12:30.000 This was in the wee hours of the morning, but you know what, I gotta admit, I don't care all that much, because this is not the story you should pay attention to.

01:12:39.000 This is the story you should pay attention to.

01:12:40.000 Hey, why don't you read that, Ian?

01:12:43.000 We need, the subject says, a limited military draft.

01:12:46.000 I just didn't want people to say that I'm the one saying that, because I don't think we do.

01:12:49.000 Military.com.

01:12:51.000 We need a limited military draft.

01:12:54.000 We then have the Council on Foreign Relations, the uncertain future of the U.S.

01:12:58.000 military's all-volunteer force from July 18th, 2023, which concludes that we're going to need a new Gates Commission to figure out how we deal with this.

01:13:09.000 Joe Biden has called the righty reserves, the select reserves, to be deployed to Europe over what's going on in Ukraine, and this operation's been ongoing since 2014.

01:13:19.000 Oliver Stone says he regrets voting for Biden because Biden's leading us into World War III.

01:13:23.000 You've now got, and it's not just these two op-eds, more calls for a military draft.

01:13:29.000 And you know what the only thing I can say is?

01:13:31.000 I really look forward to seeing Harry Sisson on the front lines making TikTok videos.

01:13:35.000 Because they ain't drafting the 37-year-olds first!

01:13:38.000 Well, don't be so pie-in-the-sky, man.

01:13:39.000 If it hits the fan, we're all on the chopping block.

01:13:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, but what I'm saying is it'll be a good year or so before they draft a 37-year-old over the 20-year-old.

01:13:49.000 What pisses me off is that Biden...

01:13:51.000 gave that covid vaccine mandate across the military and a bunch of people resigned or got kicked out and now they're like trying to pull their pants back up because they crapped their diapers and like well and they're naming well they don't but i will add to that too and the insane woke policy stuff there were a bunch of things the biden administration and millie and others had done which decimated our our numbers forcing people to to resign or just not want to enlist at all Oh, what were you gonna say, Tim?

01:14:20.000 What was that?

01:14:20.000 Did you have something you were about to say, too?

01:14:22.000 Oh, well, I mean, you're not gonna send me to the draft, I'll tell you that right now.

01:14:25.000 I'm gonna die before I go and fight for- How old are you?

01:14:27.000 I'm 23, so I'm the prime age, right?

01:14:29.000 Well, but you're not first in line.

01:14:30.000 Yeah, not first in line, but- You're a few months out.

01:14:31.000 At the same time, it's interesting because they've purged all these, you know, right-wing extremists from the military.

01:14:36.000 They've really been focused on that, but those guys are the guys that are fit.

01:14:39.000 Those guys are the guys that are willing to fight.

01:14:41.000 Allegedly- My friend, Taylor.

01:14:43.000 Okay, you're 23?

01:14:43.000 Yeah.

01:14:44.000 Uh, how tall are you?

01:14:45.000 I'm six foot.

01:14:46.000 You're six feet tall?

01:14:47.000 Yep.

01:14:47.000 Uh, how much do you weigh?

01:14:50.000 178.

01:14:50.000 And, uh, you work out?

01:14:52.000 A lot.

01:14:53.000 You lift?

01:14:53.000 Yes.

01:14:54.000 Yeah.

01:14:54.000 Do you think they're gonna choose one of these, uh, soy boys?

01:14:57.000 Little five-foot-five, weak noodle-armed Antifa guys?

01:15:00.000 Oh, no.

01:15:00.000 Or do you think they're gonna be like, I want that guy?

01:15:02.000 I'm the prime candidate, but that's what I'm saying.

01:15:03.000 I mean, you're not gonna get me.

01:15:05.000 You're not gonna get me.

01:15:05.000 Regardless of what you do, I will die defending my right not to go to war for the military-industrial complex.

01:15:11.000 Especially in Ukraine. I'll tell you that in 10 years. It's gonna be it doesn't it won't much matter 1.00

01:15:17.000 Like the physical fitness of the person because they're gonna be

01:15:20.000 Piloting drones and wearing super soldier exoskeletons and stuff. Have you seen?

01:15:24.000 They're not gonna wear. Why would you send a person in to mostly for logistics?

01:15:29.000 Think about the generations that have been raised on video games, too

01:15:34.000 That's perfectly in sight with the technology that the US military uses. That's literally what they're prepping you

01:15:38.000 for essentially and granted I love video games, but you're exposed to the violence for

01:15:43.000 a reason you're exposed to you know Doing drone strikes on people for a reason because, you know, they're basically prepping and grooming this younger generation into accepting war.

01:15:52.000 I used to fantasize about fleeing to Canada, man.

01:15:54.000 My dad was sucked into Vietnam, and it annihilated pretty much everything in his life, you know, along with his cousin and God knows however many members of that generation. 1.00

01:16:04.000 He'd always tell me about the horror of war in an unjust draft, and I knew, like, it was a dark fantasy of, like, what would I do?

01:16:09.000 I'd have to flee.

01:16:11.000 I'm not gonna go die on some battlefield for some oligarch.

01:16:15.000 I got too much to give to this earth.

01:16:17.000 For Joe Biden?

01:16:17.000 No, no, no.

01:16:18.000 I'll defend this country.

01:16:20.000 I'm here.

01:16:21.000 That's what the military is for.

01:16:22.000 The future of war is going to be those Boston Dynamics robots, the dogs.

01:16:25.000 I mean, Black Mirror got it right.

01:16:27.000 They've already mounted machine guns to those dogs, those little robot dogs.

01:16:30.000 I think that in biological warfare, everybody talks about nukes this, nukes that.

01:16:34.000 Why would you use nukes when you can use something that is essentially untraceable?

01:16:37.000 I mean, you see with the COVID lab leak, that's the future.

01:16:40.000 It's not so much that, it's a nuclear weapon destroys the city.

01:16:43.000 But we want the city.

01:16:44.000 We want the city, we want the resources, we want the coal, the ore, the uranium, whatever.

01:16:49.000 We honestly want the civilians.

01:16:52.000 We want their civilians to be part of our country.

01:16:55.000 You get the DNA, you get the DNA of certain political leaders and their families, and you engineer bioweapons that only target them, and then the virus can infect tons of people and nothing happens, but then all of a sudden these particular individuals just Yeah, that was great that RFK actually mentioned that, although he did get taken out of context, but genetically engineered bioweapons that take out certain types of human.

01:17:17.000 Didn't they say that he was being an anti-Semite because of that clip?

01:17:20.000 Yeah.

01:17:20.000 Is that the clip that they tried to accuse him of?

01:17:22.000 It was so ridiculous. 0.98

01:17:22.000 He made a noise! 0.98

01:17:24.000 Amplify it back at him!

01:17:25.000 He told the truth!

01:17:26.000 Oh! 0.60

01:17:26.000 He made a noise. 0.60

01:17:28.000 Yeah.

01:17:29.000 So you think that humans are not gonna get, like, it's not gonna be as human-on-human warfare on this?

01:17:34.000 It'll be like from above by robots and like we'll just be watching?

01:17:38.000 Yeah, I think sending in a wave of those Boston Dynamics robots is...

01:17:43.000 Look, a nuclear weapon will destroy the city. 0.99

01:17:46.000 But we want to own the city.

01:17:47.000 We want their resources and we want to subjugate them.

01:17:50.000 It may just be easier to unleash a virus that targets a specific genetic profile.

01:17:57.000 Sure, you might want the civilians, but if you want to win the war, just erase the country. 0.98

01:18:02.000 Just like that.

01:18:03.000 Even if you go down, like, the physical, you know, human-on-human kinetic route, you're gonna end with robots and all these things, right?

01:18:10.000 There's gonna be humans thrown in the meat grinder. 1.00

01:18:12.000 Yeah, it's not gonna be robots on robots.

01:18:14.000 It's gonna be robots slaughtering humans. 0.98

01:18:17.000 It's going to be machines.

01:18:18.000 Well, and not just that.

01:18:19.000 It won't be just run by humans slaughtering other humans.

01:18:22.000 Or run by AI.

01:18:23.000 There's no reason to wear an exosuit.

01:18:25.000 Did you ever see that short film about drone warfare?

01:18:28.000 It was just like 10 minutes about a guy giving a TED talk about a drone or something like that.

01:18:31.000 And it's people running from building to building, trying to dodge these flying drones with machine guns that are killing anything that moves.

01:18:38.000 Well, you've seen the videos out of Ukraine and Russia.

01:18:40.000 I mean, their drone warfare there is brutal.

01:18:42.000 Have you seen any drone footage?

01:18:44.000 It's disgusting.

01:18:46.000 They're small. 0.97

01:18:47.000 They're not big.

01:18:48.000 You can't even see them a lot of the time, let alone hear them.

01:18:50.000 Flying bombs targeting your GPS coordinates.

01:18:54.000 You see dudes just like this, begging.

01:18:57.000 Begging not to drop the bomb, and they just drop it.

01:19:00.000 And then there's that one video they released where there's a guy cowering in a foxhole.

01:19:04.000 And then the drone is pointing down and you see the bomb just fall and then boom and then the guy starts groaning

01:19:08.000 and like struggling Start moving again. Yeah, well and it's and those videos

01:19:12.000 are I mean, they're every I'm glad they're everywhere They are everywhere, but it shows the realities of war and

01:19:16.000 then there was that one video of the ukrainians I think it was like their their trans tifa force or

01:19:21.000 whatever in that minefield and they all got their legs blown

01:19:24.000 Yeah, that one is a video of this guy jumps off the back of the truck

01:19:27.000 And he's just ready to land and kneel and he lands on the on the thing

01:19:31.000 Well, then they go and try and help their friends, you know, that are down, and then they hit it, the same thing, too.

01:19:36.000 They hit another mine.

01:19:36.000 I mean, and the end of it, they all end up having... I mean, they're missing limbs.

01:19:40.000 Dude, the guy lands on the landmine, he gets his legs blown apart, and he immediately starts tourniqueting himself.

01:19:44.000 Like, it's just horrific.

01:19:45.000 Yeah.

01:19:46.000 Well, and that's the thing is, I think the realities of war need to be broadcasted, but there's a reason why they aren't.

01:19:52.000 Any regular person sees any of these videos is going to disgust them, because, frankly, war is the most evil and disgusting thing that you can do on this entire planet.

01:20:01.000 I mean, humans killing each other for what?

01:20:03.000 For the idea that their leaders are right and that the international conflict is justified?

01:20:09.000 I don't think any international conflict is justified.

01:20:11.000 I mean, when you have people murdering each other, because that's exactly what this is, I don't see how anyone can say, oh yeah, I'm going for Ukraine or I'm going for Russia.

01:20:20.000 No, both sides are at fault.

01:20:21.000 They're both murdering people.

01:20:22.000 I understand resource grabs.

01:20:24.000 It's not good, but if one country doesn't have enough food and the other one has more than enough, and then they're coming and invading to take the food.

01:20:31.000 Trade works way better than war.

01:20:32.000 It does.

01:20:34.000 But then you need a common language.

01:20:35.000 You don't need one, but it sure helps.

01:20:36.000 You need a common culture in order to keep sustained trade going.

01:20:40.000 You don't need it, but man, does it help.

01:20:42.000 There's been cultures that were very different and have managed to trade with each other and remain very different cultures and still live peacefully side by side with each other.

01:20:50.000 Simply put, we don't have to keep killing.

01:20:52.000 This Russian thing is about a port.

01:20:54.000 It's a land grab because they want a trade route. 0.60

01:20:57.000 And you can't buy a trade route.

01:20:58.000 I mean, they technically could buy the land off Ukraine for 700 trillion or whatever the value over the next 80 years will be.

01:21:05.000 Yeah, they need access to that seaport right there so they can stop transporting it over land.

01:21:08.000 That freeway down to Crimea.

01:21:10.000 And I don't know if there's an... They could buy it.

01:21:12.000 You could sell it to them.

01:21:13.000 But at this point, it's just rubble.

01:21:14.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:21:15.000 Do you know much about what's going on?

01:21:16.000 Is the Donbass just leveled?

01:21:17.000 Is it just mud fields?

01:21:18.000 I mean, a lot of things are just completely leveled over there.

01:21:20.000 It is.

01:21:21.000 Seriously, there's a reason why there's so many videos out there in these, especially Telegram.

01:21:25.000 Telegram is the biggest distributor of these videos.

01:21:27.000 That's where you really see the uncensored stuff.

01:21:30.000 You put it on Twitter and even it gets censored even on Twitter because you're not supposed to see these things.

01:21:34.000 I mean, it's brutal.

01:21:35.000 It's the realities of life and the realities of following these dictator's orders.

01:21:40.000 I mean, and you know, I don't agree with Putin doing the land grab.

01:21:43.000 I don't agree with Zelensky casting out Uh, Catholics and Christians, I don't agree with any of this. 0.97

01:21:47.000 I think everybody's in the wrong.

01:21:49.000 There's better ways to go about, I mean, trade deals, right?

01:21:53.000 It's the perfect example.

01:21:54.000 You don't have to kill each other.

01:21:55.000 Just come to an agreement, come to a price, and give each other something that benefits both of you.

01:22:00.000 That's the reality of how the world is supposed to work, but instead, they'd rather just murder each other because that's where the money's at.

01:22:06.000 It's sad.

01:22:07.000 I mean, it's truly heartbreaking.

01:22:08.000 Especially, I have a lot of friends that have come back from Iraq and these other war-torn countries, and they went there thinking they were bringing democracy to these people.

01:22:18.000 And then they get there, they are told to dehumanize these people.

01:22:23.000 They kill these people and then they realize, oh, these people don't want democracy.

01:22:28.000 They're literally openly saying they don't want democracy.

01:22:30.000 This is a different culture.

01:22:32.000 And then the guys come back.

01:22:33.000 The VA doesn't take care of them. 0.96

01:22:35.000 It's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.

01:22:36.000 They swap them providers. 0.96

01:22:38.000 And then these veterans kill themselves because they have to deal with the fact that they were sent over to murder people under the guise of restoring democracy.

01:22:45.000 I want to jump to, uh, back to politics because, uh, Vivek Ramaswamy issued a statement three hours ago and just announced he's filed a lawsuit against the U.S.

01:22:52.000 Department of Justice for failure to respond to his FOIA request to uncover what White House officials, including Joe Biden, communicated to Merrick Garland and Jack Smith about, uh, let me read it, about, um, Uh, about the unprecedented indictment in the classified documents case of former U.S.

01:23:09.000 President and one of Biden's political opponents in the 2024 presidential election, I'm also filing a separate FOIA request with the DOJ to uncover any similar communications relating to the just-issued January 6th Trump indictment.

01:23:22.000 We should demand accountability and transparency.

01:23:24.000 In U.S.

01:23:24.000 v. Alvarez, Supreme Court held that political candidates have a First Amendment right to knowingly make inaccurate statements.

01:23:29.000 If you're going to indict a former president and leading presidential candidate, it better not be based on unprecedented legal theory.

01:23:37.000 Further, it's much more than a stretch to call something criminal if someone is seeking legal counsel from their own lawyers.

01:23:43.000 Jack Smith has created a dangerous precedent by criminalizing the behavior of Trump's lawyers who offer him legal advice, labeling them co-conspirators instead.

01:23:51.000 This jeopardizes the future of our legal system.

01:23:54.000 If we fail to admit the truth, January 6th will just be a preview of far worse to come.

01:23:59.000 We must reunite this country, but the path forward will not be easy.

01:24:01.000 I want to play the video.

01:24:03.000 I assume it's probably a different statement, but let's play it.

01:24:06.000 It's another sad moment in our country's history.

01:24:08.000 The 45th president of the United States, Donald Trump, has yet again been indicted by the Biden DOJ, a political party in power that is now repeatedly using police force to indict and arrest and potentially eliminate its political opponents from competition.

01:24:29.000 This is a politicized prosecution.

01:24:31.000 It is a political persecution through prosecution now in a third indictment just in a matter of months against the person who is still at present the lead contender in the Republican primary for US president.

01:24:46.000 I want to be very clear.

01:24:47.000 I am running for US president in that same Republican primary.

01:24:51.000 It would be easier for me if Donald Trump were eliminated from competition.

01:24:56.000 That's not how I want to win.

01:24:57.000 This is not about politics to me.

01:25:00.000 This is about first principles.

01:25:02.000 We do not want to become a country where the party in power is able to use banana republic-like tactics to eliminate its political opponents.

01:25:13.000 Yet I'm sad to say that's exactly where we are.

01:25:15.000 The allegations in this indictment fall flat.

01:25:19.000 It is wrong and incorrect and inaccurate to place blame for what happened on January 6th at the feet of Donald Trump.

01:25:27.000 I said this at the time.

01:25:30.000 I've said it ever since then.

01:25:32.000 I continue to say it today.

01:25:34.000 I would not have made the same judgments that Donald Trump did in how he handled that day.

01:25:42.000 But that's different from saying that he committed a crime.

01:25:45.000 He did not.

01:25:46.000 He specifically told the protesters that day to behave peacefully.

01:25:52.000 The First Amendment in this country gives political protesters the ability to express themselves and their opinions freely.

01:26:02.000 Donald Trump was not responsible for what happened on January 6th.

01:26:07.000 You want to know what was responsible?

01:26:09.000 I said this in the days after January 6, 2021, just as I say it today.

01:26:16.000 Systematic, pervasive censorship in this country.

01:26:21.000 That was after a year where we had told people across this nation that you had to stay locked down in your house, in your basement, and shut up, sit down, do as you're told.

01:26:30.000 If you question that, you're racist, you're anti-science.

01:26:34.000 Your social media accounts were silenced.

01:26:36.000 You had to stay home and locked down unless you were part of BLM or Antifa, in which case

01:26:41.000 it was perfectly fine to roam the streets of this country and burn many of them down.

01:26:47.000 That was the double standard that then applied and said that if you said the virus originated

01:26:51.000 in a lab in Wuhan, you were again a racist and had your internet accounts shut down. 0.55

01:26:57.000 You were then told you had an election where you could express yourself to put the right

01:27:00.000 person in charge of fixing these problems, and instead your accounts were suppressed

01:27:06.000 if you sent a mere message saying that the Hunter Biden laptop story from the New York

01:27:11.000 Post was real.

01:27:13.000 You had your accounts locked.

01:27:14.000 Even the New York Post had its own account locked.

01:27:18.000 And if you repeatedly then tell people they cannot speak, that is when they scream.

01:27:22.000 If you repeatedly tell people they cannot scream, that is when they tear things down.

01:27:27.000 And I think we are making a grave mistake in this country by trying to pin the blame for that at the feet of one man.

01:27:34.000 If we refuse to learn from our mistakes in the past, we are doomed to suffer an even worse fate in the future.

01:27:43.000 I worry that will create a country where January 6, 2021 was a friendly parley compared to what's actually to come.

01:27:51.000 I'm running for president to make sure we don't march towards some kind of national divorce.

01:27:57.000 But the first and most important step that we as candidates can take in this race is to speak and speak forcefully on the side of principle.

01:28:05.000 To say that even if we're competing against Donald Trump, as I am, I do not want to see him eliminated from competition using these politicized tactics.

01:28:16.000 It is wrong for our country.

01:28:18.000 It is wrong for our future.

01:28:20.000 I call on my fellow candidates to condemn it.

01:28:23.000 And I call on President Biden to do the right thing and drop these politicized charges.

01:28:29.000 That's going to be a first step towards uniting our country.

01:28:32.000 So did Vivace just step into second place in the Republican primary?

01:28:36.000 Nice dude, I hope so.

01:28:37.000 Holy smokes, that was really well done.

01:28:40.000 He did the exact same thing, I mean not the exact same thing, when the Mar-a-Lago raid happened.

01:28:45.000 I mean, this guy is a winner right here.

01:28:48.000 Where's Rhonda Santas' video?

01:28:49.000 Where's that at?

01:28:50.000 Where is him condemning this?

01:28:51.000 I'll try and avoid comparing him.

01:28:52.000 That was a very, very well done video.

01:28:58.000 That's professional.

01:28:59.000 As far as I can tell, he's just talking to the camera.

01:29:01.000 I don't think there's a script there.

01:29:02.000 I mean, maybe he's got something.

01:29:03.000 I'm just looking at the whole production, and I'm like, this guy knows what he's talking about.

01:29:05.000 Partway through, I was like, I gotta see him and Obama get together and talk geopolitics.

01:29:09.000 Because this guy is the president.

01:29:11.000 This is the guy.

01:29:12.000 He is the right-wing version of Obama, but I think he's actually genuine.

01:29:16.000 I think that's the big difference.

01:29:17.000 But the way that he is able to word things, it's a talent.

01:29:20.000 I mean, he is very gifted.

01:29:22.000 He's a businessman, just like Trump is.

01:29:23.000 He's an outsider.

01:29:24.000 And I can see why people see him as a threat.

01:29:26.000 You know what else he is?

01:29:27.000 His family is Indian.

01:29:28.000 And I'm not big into identity politics, but you want to talk about an ally in the 21st century, it's India.

01:29:33.000 It's the United States and India. 0.95

01:29:34.000 If you're concerned about China, if you're concerned about the Chinese and the Russians and communism, you want India. 1.00

01:29:41.000 India is the final piece of the... If India sides with the Communist Party, Asia is a deafening roar. 0.86

01:29:47.000 If India and the United States are allied, that could be one of the most powerful peace-bringing unions in the world.

01:29:52.000 Totally hear ya.

01:29:53.000 Trump had a meeting, was it Modi at the time?

01:29:56.000 And Trump, they love Trump, but Vivek's an American citizen who was born here.

01:29:59.000 No, his parents were born in India.

01:30:00.000 I know, but he was born here.

01:30:01.000 Yeah, but as I said, his parents, he's got Indian heritage, his parents were from India.

01:30:05.000 And I'm not into the identity stuff.

01:30:06.000 A white guy from South Dakota could be a better Indian diplomat than Vivek, but his parents

01:30:13.000 Yeah, I'll tell you why.

01:30:13.000 He's Hindu.

01:30:14.000 Like, this is a good opportunity to bridge and blend some gaps.

01:30:17.000 I've had people say they don't trust him or whatever, but I'm like, the dude sat down in front of me and outright said he thinks there should be some kind of civic test for people to get the right to vote.

01:30:27.000 Amazing.

01:30:28.000 And I'm just like, I agree with you.

01:30:31.000 We've talked about that on this show, but the idea that someone running for office would say something like that, that's like, Every advisor's gonna be like, no, no, no, no, don't say that because you're gonna lose voters in this demographic or that demographic, and he was like, he sits back and he's like, I don't know, they'll probably get mad at me for saying this, but we gotta have some kind of test or qualifier for voting in this country.

01:30:53.000 I love the fact that he's at least thinking about the ramifications of an ignorant population being manipulated by You know, social media companies, corporations, the government itself, whatever.

01:31:09.000 I love the fact that he's like, look, people are going to be manipulated to some degree, so we need to do what we can to make sure that the people that are voting actually care about voting.

01:31:21.000 Because I've honestly, I truly believe that there are far more people that will get upset if you tell them that we're going to take away the right And the simple idea that anybody can vote is actually absurd.

01:31:36.000 vote, right? Like there are way more people that are like, I want the right,

01:31:39.000 even though I have never and will never get my ass off the couch and go out and 0.88

01:31:44.000 vote. 0.90

01:31:44.000 And the simple idea that anybody can vote is actually absurd. 0.90

01:31:48.000 The fact that you don't have to take just a simple civics class,

01:31:51.000 so you can at least prove that, you know, the bare minimum about government people that you're voting

01:31:56.000 in is insane to me.

01:31:57.000 I don't know how, and I,

01:32:00.000 so I'm not going to make a prescription as to the way to ensure that the people

01:32:05.000 voting not only have a stake and, and, and have actual, uh, you know,

01:32:10.000 concern about the policies and stuff beyond just voting for, you know,

01:32:15.000 to put their hands in the government's pockets. Um, but.

01:32:19.000 the world.

01:32:20.000 The idea that you need to have some kind of qualification, or at least prove that you care about where the country's going, not just You care about being able to stick your hand in the government's coffers?

01:32:36.000 I think that's something that's worth talking about.

01:32:38.000 Let's take a look at the betting odds here.

01:32:40.000 It's from RealClearPolitics, RCP betting average.

01:32:44.000 And you can see Ramaswamy, since he entered, has just been climbing and climbing and climbing.

01:32:49.000 He's currently at 14 cents in the prediction markets.

01:32:51.000 Donald Trump has seen a major spike.

01:32:54.000 But interestingly, when they started tracking this in January, Ron DeSantis was in the lead.

01:32:59.000 That means if you were to have bought shares in the prediction market of Ron DeSantis in January, you'd have lost.

01:33:05.000 You're hurting.

01:33:06.000 I mean, we're talking 80% of your bet.

01:33:12.000 Even Donald Trump improved.

01:33:13.000 Yeah.

01:33:14.000 But I think Ramaswamy, I think, you know, we've already seen him tie in some polls for second, and we've seen in the prediction markets he's tied for second.

01:33:22.000 I think you give it a week, especially with this statement.

01:33:26.000 Yep.

01:33:27.000 Scott Adams just tweeted something like, is it just me or did he do that without notes?

01:33:32.000 There was that one point where he accidentally forgot to say the word from and then quickly caught it.

01:33:37.000 I noticed that and I'm like, he doesn't have a script.

01:33:39.000 When I heard that, I'm like, there's no script there.

01:33:41.000 Well, you see how well spoken he is.

01:33:42.000 A guy like this doesn't need a script.

01:33:44.000 He said if we don't learn our mistakes, if we don't learn from our past mistakes, so he misspoke the word.

01:33:52.000 It makes you believe he's more genuine, because he's not going off a script like every one of these other politicians.

01:33:57.000 Unless he's so smart, he has a prompter, but he intentionally plots to make it seem like it.

01:34:02.000 He's 37 years old!

01:34:03.000 Yeah, the guy's amazing, dude.

01:34:04.000 He's got that, I don't know, Obama flair.

01:34:07.000 I almost want him to join the Uniparty just to get in so that he can become the brilliant visionary and alterator that we need.

01:34:14.000 But I don't want to see him get lost to the Uniparty. 1.00

01:34:16.000 But that's what happens when you become president.

01:34:18.000 You become the leader of the military-industrial complex.

01:34:20.000 And he's willing.

01:34:20.000 He knows he's going to get changed.

01:34:21.000 He said that to you, Tim, on the culture war.

01:34:23.000 He's like, I'm going to go in there.

01:34:25.000 I'm going to be a different person after eight years.

01:34:26.000 I know I'm willing.

01:34:27.000 I was saying that I thought he could not win, Trump's the clear frontrunner, Trump will be the nominee.

01:34:34.000 At this point I'm thinking like, Vivek has defended the right principles, he's defended Trump, he's spoken clearly and truthfully and honestly, he's addressed every question put before him, I'm extremely impressed with him, and I think he's in second place.

01:34:50.000 Like the polling's gonna come out, but I think he's in second place.

01:34:53.000 I think that for a lot of Trump supporters, if Trump is forcefully removed from the ballot to the point where there is no choice, A lot of these guys are going to vote for Ramaswamy.

01:35:02.000 Yeah, even Trump likes him.

01:35:04.000 Trump's spoken very highly of him.

01:35:05.000 And at this point with that, I'm like, I could see him being VP.

01:35:10.000 He said he didn't want to do it.

01:35:11.000 He said he didn't want to.

01:35:11.000 They all say that they do.

01:35:13.000 You have to say you don't want to.

01:35:14.000 Yeah.

01:35:14.000 Otherwise, they'll just put you there.

01:35:15.000 I mean, that's what I was talking about earlier.

01:35:16.000 I think he'd be the perfect VP for Trump.

01:35:18.000 The perfect person to level Trump out, you know, almost a pence, but much better, significantly better in every single way.

01:35:23.000 And he's Hindu, so Christians will support him. 0.95

01:35:26.000 I mean, there's a lot of Parallels between these as long as they're religious. 0.83

01:35:29.000 They have basic values.

01:35:30.000 You're gonna get the vote I feel like he like Vivek will just make social media posts Non-stop as VP if he was VP and just piss Trump off so bad because he's got different ideas Although Trump's a listener like Trump has a really good memory.

01:35:43.000 That's I think one really good quality about him He's a great memory and he's a good listener Apparently seems like a very good listener.

01:35:48.000 I think he would benefit greatly from having somebody like Vivek with him.

01:35:52.000 Yeah.

01:35:52.000 Because he can, I mean, you've seen in his past administration, he had bad people around him, and those bad ideas were reflected a lot through his administration.

01:35:59.000 But you put someone like Vivek around him, these ideas are good ideas.

01:36:02.000 Yeah, granted, not all of them are, but he has better ideas than almost anybody I've, I mean, I would argue this is the best candidate that I relate to more on a personal level.

01:36:12.000 Out of anyone.

01:36:12.000 I wonder if Vivek's real strategy is, uh, is auditioning for the role of VP. I think so. I do think

01:36:19.000 so. No, but think about it. Trump doesn't care who you are. Trump's the kind of guy who's run

01:36:23.000 multiple businesses. Vivek runs a business right up to a half a billion dollars or

01:36:27.000 multi-billion dollars. He's a guy who knows how you get the job. And I'm wondering if Vivek

01:36:32.000 is like, you can't go and apply to be VP.

01:36:35.000 You can't walk up to Trump and say, trust me, just trust me.

01:36:37.000 No, no, no.

01:36:37.000 You get out there, you prove it.

01:36:38.000 Trump's seen it.

01:36:39.000 Trump likes him.

01:36:40.000 This race will happen. 1.00

01:36:41.000 Vivek handles everything masterfully.

01:36:43.000 Defends Trump masterfully.

01:36:45.000 And then when it comes down to the primary, Trump wins.

01:36:48.000 Vivek smiles, shakes his hand, and Trump says, I think you're the guy.

01:36:52.000 I think that's honestly the only roadmap for Trump to win as well.

01:36:56.000 I think if Trump picks just about anybody else, I don't think there's really a possibility for him to reach other voters that he wasn't able to reach before.

01:37:03.000 I mean, granted, his votes are going to go up because of the economy and everything else, but Vivek is the guy to garner those votes that he wouldn't regularly obtain.

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01:37:46.000 Alright, Rick K. says, I would love to see a program that requires teenagers to work on a farm for 40 hours for graduation.

01:37:52.000 It would benefit the country as a whole and teach younger generations about agricultural animal husbandry and self-reliance.

01:37:57.000 Completely agree.

01:37:58.000 You look at the farm kids that grow up, they're always great.

01:38:00.000 I would say a month.

01:38:02.000 I would say one weekend, three hours a day.

01:38:05.000 No, no, no.

01:38:06.000 You stay on that farm.

01:38:07.000 For one month you go and stay on a farm and you do general farm work.

01:38:12.000 Once you start getting up early, I mean, that's training in and of itself.

01:38:15.000 It's the work ethic, too.

01:38:16.000 That's what makes men and that's what makes people... I mean, you look at the farm kids, right?

01:38:20.000 They always end up more right-wing.

01:38:23.000 They always end up holding their values and not straying away from them.

01:38:27.000 Hard work is what ingrains people to have good morals.

01:38:30.000 I genuinely believe in that.

01:38:31.000 And even with sports, football, baseball, all these American sports, it's not about the sport.

01:38:36.000 It's about the values that you teach through those sports.

01:38:38.000 Three months.

01:38:39.000 Yes.

01:38:40.000 No, that's too long.

01:38:41.000 No, no, three months is a season.

01:38:42.000 You have to be there at least out of season.

01:38:43.000 Send kids to the farm for three months.

01:38:44.000 Yeah, yeah, of course, man.

01:38:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:46.000 I already hate public school, geez.

01:38:47.000 In order to graduate, you have to actually do something within the real world because

01:38:53.000 farming isn't just picking grapes or something.

01:38:56.000 It is, there's financial elements to it.

01:38:58.000 The shipment's coming in at 6 a.m.

01:39:01.000 It's real world training.

01:39:02.000 If the crops fail, so do you.

01:39:04.000 And look, we're not saying you work 30 hours, you know, 24 hours a day.

01:39:08.000 30 hours a day, I'm exaggerating.

01:39:10.000 You work an 8-hour shift.

01:39:12.000 Just a farm hand.

01:39:13.000 You just help out.

01:39:13.000 Exactly.

01:39:13.000 You work 8 hours a day, like any normal job.

01:39:15.000 You basically just have for 3 months a summer job.

01:39:18.000 Right.

01:39:18.000 That's it.

01:39:18.000 That's what I'm thinking.

01:39:19.000 A summer job for 3 months.

01:39:22.000 And you get paid, I think they should get paid a stipend.

01:39:24.000 And then once the summer is over, they'll be like, I went on the summer camp and I worked a summer job.

01:39:29.000 Whoever sent that super chat's a real one.

01:39:32.000 Then, when you get out, you've learned a whole bunch about how the farm works, about how finance, shipments, delivery, packaging, you learn where the product is going, you make money, so when you leave, you'll have a couple grand.

01:39:44.000 Like, I graduated from high school, I got a couple grand, I put it in my bank account, I'm off to a good start.

01:39:48.000 Let's be honest.

01:39:48.000 That's a great idea.

01:39:49.000 The Rockefeller school system, it's designed the way it is for a reason, right?

01:39:53.000 It's for factory workers.

01:39:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:39:55.000 Eight hour shifts, wake up too early before your brain's fully functioning.

01:39:58.000 I mean, we see it over and over again, but that would significantly not just fix the school system, but fix the values in this country.

01:40:04.000 That's a really great idea.

01:40:04.000 It's an antidote to factory farming.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, literally is.

01:40:08.000 Do something beneficial, not sitting in a factory all day.

01:40:11.000 No, just abolish the Department of Education.

01:40:13.000 I agree.

01:40:13.000 Let's read some more.

01:40:14.000 We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:40:15.000 Junior says, Tim, I liked Pasha at first.

01:40:17.000 A lot of spit and fury.

01:40:18.000 She was fiery, but mostly peaceful.

01:40:20.000 Now she's basically the female version of Brooklyn dad. 1.00

01:40:23.000 Yeah.

01:40:24.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 I've kind of been not looking at her much, because I still have faith or hope that she'll come on the show, or Ron will come on the show maybe, but I don't know.

01:40:34.000 Well, and see, I agree with him.

01:40:35.000 I really liked Pushaw.

01:40:36.000 She had a lot of potential.

01:40:37.000 She was handling the media masterfully, and then all of a sudden, I mean, that picture comes out with her red knees, and next thing you know, it's just hellfire over and over again from her and the DeSantis campaign. 0.99

01:40:49.000 Alright, Koldilock says Trump getting hit with this charge is like Clinton deleting emails of documents she shouldn't have had.

01:40:55.000 Both situations are bull and shouldn't be happening.

01:40:59.000 Them charging Trump is going to be bad for the unity of America.

01:41:02.000 Completely agree.

01:41:03.000 Thebagman says World War 3 will happen so Trump will lose 2024 election and we'll all go to the dark ages.

01:41:10.000 I have never been wrong in my life.

01:41:12.000 Well alright, good luck sir.

01:41:16.000 Skylar Pearson says, Tim, your voice is so dynamic, that deepfake of you sounded so flat and uninteresting, like a 1980s talk show host version of you.

01:41:24.000 Yeah, we were talking about this.

01:41:27.000 Like, if you put Joe Rogan in that voice deepfake thing, it nails it.

01:41:32.000 And it's weird.

01:41:32.000 There's a few other people that it really gets, but for some reason it just does not get in my voice.

01:41:36.000 Well, you do a lot of different tones when you speak.

01:41:37.000 I think that's the biggest thing, is your tone changes and your demeanor changes consistently through your sentences, so it's harder for AI to track that.

01:41:45.000 But Rogan, he's just flat.

01:41:48.000 It's hard to impersonate Joe Rogan, but the AI seems to get him.

01:41:51.000 You know?

01:41:53.000 Yeah, he'll kind of talk like... Nah, it's hard to get.

01:41:56.000 He doesn't have like the thrill.

01:41:59.000 The AI version of him doesn't have a thrill to his voice.

01:42:01.000 Donald Trump, he's nasally.

01:42:04.000 So you have to push your tongue up against the back of your mouth to get that nasally when you're talking.

01:42:09.000 Right?

01:42:09.000 And there's certain characteristics of like Dr. Fauci that you can just hone in on.

01:42:14.000 You don't need to be wearing two masks!

01:42:17.000 But definitely two is a... you don't need two, but two.

01:42:21.000 I can hear, like, Trump was hard for me to figure out for a while.

01:42:25.000 I don't think it's particularly super good or whatever.

01:42:27.000 I just got some of the characteristics.

01:42:29.000 Your Nancy Pelosi one's my favorite.

01:42:30.000 But that one's intentionally insulting. 1.00

01:42:32.000 Donald Trump is a disgusting... 0.99

01:42:34.000 It's meant to, you know, but like with Joe Rogan, I cannot figure out how to speak that way. 0.99

01:42:41.000 I just, it's just like, it's not, it doesn't exist in the realm of whatever my, my... Joe's, yeah, he's got like a jovial kind of like... No, no, it's like the sound of his voice and the way he speaks, it's just... It's like in the back of the cheeks, kind of up by the jaw.

01:42:52.000 It's the HGH and TRT.

01:42:54.000 Impossible for me to get.

01:42:56.000 And I've seen a lot of cartoons, like, uh, where they try to impersonate Joe.

01:43:00.000 And they just make him talk like this!

01:43:02.000 And I'm like, Joe doesn't talk like this.

01:43:03.000 He's got like a Boston accent that's been kind of muted.

01:43:06.000 Maybe that has something to, if you want to catch it.

01:43:09.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:43:12.000 All right, Hank Fett says, if they are successful in getting Trump off the ballot and run unopposed, do you think anyone on the right among his supporters or the Republicans will do anything to oppose it, or is it over for us?

01:43:22.000 I think it's, I think everything just falls apart.

01:43:24.000 You got to use different systems, but fighting that thing, that oligarchy, is not the way.

01:43:30.000 I can't imagine they actually remove Trump from the ballot because it's unprecedented.

01:43:36.000 And who does it leave on the ballot?

01:43:37.000 Are they just going to eliminate the Republican Party from the ballot in all these different states?

01:43:41.000 It would be Vivek.

01:43:42.000 And maybe he would win and become the greatest president of all time.

01:43:44.000 I don't know.

01:43:46.000 I don't know, man.

01:43:48.000 I don't know.

01:43:49.000 Could you imagine if Trump said, vote Vivek?

01:43:52.000 It would be crazy.

01:43:55.000 I mean, I suppose if he got, if he got arrested, I can't imagine a context where Trump would do that.

01:44:02.000 I mean, I think, I think the ego is a little bit too big with Trump, even if he is arrested and died and everything.

01:44:06.000 I mean, I think he's still going to say, yes, they robbed me, right?

01:44:12.000 He'd be like, write me in.

01:44:13.000 And then so that if you write me in, then I can pardon myself when I get in.

01:44:17.000 That would, that would be the thing.

01:44:18.000 I can't imagine Trump being like, Oh yeah, you should totally vote for him.

01:44:21.000 Max Reddick says, Tim, I know that you have known David Pakman for a long time.

01:44:24.000 You should ask him to come on IRL and discuss Biden and the quid pro quo.

01:44:29.000 Here's my prediction.

01:44:30.000 I like David.

01:44:31.000 I've known him for a long time.

01:44:32.000 He's cool.

01:44:32.000 I think he's wrong about a lot of things.

01:44:36.000 I also think that he sometimes intentionally lies.

01:44:39.000 I think if he came on this show, it would literally be just him saying like, I didn't know that, I didn't know that, I didn't know that over and over and over again.

01:44:46.000 So, like, by all means, we can invite him on the show, but, you know, I'll give you an example.

01:44:51.000 He had a video clip where, um...

01:44:54.000 There was a question asked of Ted Cruz, do you think that Ukraine interfered in the US elections?

01:45:00.000 I think that's what it was.

01:45:01.000 And Ted Cruz says something to the effect of like, the New York Times reported that they did and so did Politico magazine.

01:45:08.000 And then you hear a producer bust out laughing on NBC with like Chuck Todd or something.

01:45:14.000 And then David Pakman starts laughing as well.

01:45:16.000 And I'm like...

01:45:17.000 Did you Google this?

01:45:19.000 Because the New York Times DID report that Ukraine interfered in the U.S.

01:45:22.000 election.

01:45:23.000 And Politico DID report that.

01:45:25.000 So it's not a question of whether I believe it or not.

01:45:27.000 I don't know.

01:45:28.000 Politico reported it.

01:45:28.000 Do you agree with Politico?

01:45:29.000 Do you think they're lying?

01:45:31.000 Like, I thought Politico were your boys, but now they aren't.

01:45:35.000 But so if David Pakman's response to, like, a fact-based news report from a liberal-leaning publication is to laugh at them, I can only just say, like, he doesn't know what's going on at all.

01:45:45.000 And if he does, he doesn't care.

01:45:46.000 That's the reality.

01:45:48.000 The point of the laughing was to delegitimize it.

01:45:51.000 It wasn't to address anything that it would have said.

01:45:53.000 Right, but that implies David Pakman is willfully manipulating his audience to help Democrats win.

01:45:57.000 Yeah.

01:46:00.000 Yes, I guess I like him.

01:46:02.000 I mean, I think he's kind of a Normal guy that cares a lot about politics, but I'm a guy that lies a little bit too much I've never seen him lie directly.

01:46:12.000 I'll send you a little personally, but uh, okay if you yeah, if he lies then, you know, so be it but I would still It's been 15 years coming David get over here.

01:46:20.000 It'd be a better show for the culture war podcast, you know, we'll invite him out but I also say this like David hosts his own show.

01:46:27.000 It is very difficult and, to a certain degree, unreasonable to ask someone, hey, stop doing your daily show to come do mine instead.

01:46:33.000 It's like, oh, come on, it's not fair.

01:46:34.000 We gotta hit a grand slam if he's gonna come by.

01:46:36.000 We gotta figure something out there.

01:46:39.000 But if he wants to come on, you know, Hasan as well.

01:46:42.000 Culture War show would be fantastic.

01:46:44.000 Hasan will never come near you. 1.00

01:46:46.000 I mean, a hundred feet near you.

01:46:47.000 You gotta manifest that he will.

01:46:48.000 Hasan will come. 0.99

01:46:50.000 I'll be completely honest.

01:46:52.000 The reason Hasan won't come on this show is because he doesn't know enough about any of this stuff.

01:46:57.000 Right.

01:46:57.000 He just acts like he does.

01:46:59.000 And his audience eats it up.

01:46:59.000 Yes.

01:47:00.000 Yeah.

01:47:00.000 And David Pakman, I genuinely believe... David Pakman might actually come on the show.

01:47:06.000 Kyle Kalinske would for sure do it.

01:47:07.000 Kyle's a good dude.

01:47:08.000 I really like Kyle Kalinske.

01:47:10.000 He would definitely come on the show.

01:47:11.000 It's just with Kyle, we've talked to him before, and it's like, he's like, hey, I host my own show.

01:47:14.000 I'm kind of busy, but we'll try and find time to make it work.

01:47:16.000 I'm like, that'd be so cool.

01:47:17.000 We're fans.

01:47:19.000 But it's funny because, you know, Kyle's a lefty guy.

01:47:23.000 Jimmy Dore is a lefty guy.

01:47:24.000 Jimmy Dore, of course, is very anti-establishment.

01:47:26.000 But there's no issue with getting these honest actors when they're, like, Jimmy Dore's wrong about some stuff.

01:47:31.000 Totally cool.

01:47:32.000 I love Jimmy.

01:47:33.000 And Kyle Clancy's great.

01:47:35.000 But they're just like, yeah, I'd love to come out.

01:47:36.000 We try to find time to make it work.

01:47:38.000 These other guys who are a bit duplicitous are always just too busy and just can't make it work.

01:47:42.000 It's weird how that works.

01:47:42.000 It's the guys that Let's read some more.

01:47:44.000 PowderPZ says, Tim, I said it when I called in a few weeks ago.

01:47:46.000 This will be the last election.

01:47:47.000 I don't know.

01:47:47.000 and they know that they're obviously wrong in their views and that they can't answer the questions

01:47:53.000 when pushed about it, they're never gonna come on.

01:47:55.000 Let's read some more.

01:47:56.000 Powder PZ says, Tim, I said it when I called in a few weeks ago, this will be the last election.

01:48:01.000 I don't know.

01:48:03.000 Let's say that like an election happens in 2024 and it's hard to know whether it is actually an election.

01:48:10.000 Like, when we say election, we mean free and fair, and two candidates argue, and then the people make the decision.

01:48:16.000 And we don't feel like 2024 is gonna be like that.

01:48:18.000 If Trump wins...

01:48:20.000 there'll be an election in 2028.

01:48:22.000 Hmm?

01:48:23.000 Yeah.

01:48:23.000 They'll clean the voter rolls.

01:48:24.000 I mean, if Trump wins, they clean the voter rolls, they clean up election security,

01:48:29.000 you vote on election day as per the Constitution, one person, one vote, etc.

01:48:33.000 All that stuff happens, and then election happens.

01:48:35.000 Just like normal.

01:48:35.000 2028.

01:48:36.000 If Joe Biden wins, however, I'm not so sure what happens.

01:48:40.000 I feel like they're setting us up for a one-world government, and they're like, we cannot let go of the power right now.

01:48:44.000 I mean, you look at the UN agenda, you see all the one-world governments.

01:48:47.000 It is coming into fruition, absolutely.

01:48:50.000 The UN, and that's part of what the whole, what CBDC, that's part of the reason why they want to have a CBDC, so that way they can control the money because the NGOs like the UN, the WEF, the International Monetary Fund, stuff like that, they would like to see the governments of Europe and the United States of West have far more control over the people, and eventually they would like to see a one-world government.

01:49:21.000 Yes, that is true.

01:49:21.000 And that's always been the plan.

01:49:24.000 Travis Delaney says Vivek was on David Pakman today and Vivek called him out for making lazy arguments watch

01:49:30.000 All right, he just keeps getting better and better. I was literally driving when I was driving in today. I was

01:49:36.000 listening to Vivek and David Pakman on but it was Adam and sitch

01:49:41.000 going on.

01:49:43.000 Those guys are great.

01:49:43.000 Yeah, Adam and Sitch.

01:49:45.000 How did it seem?

01:49:46.000 Should we check it out?

01:49:47.000 How long was it?

01:49:50.000 With Adam and Sitch, their stuff is usually multiple hours.

01:49:52.000 No, but do you know how long Vivek and Pacman's thing was?

01:49:55.000 I don't know, no.

01:49:55.000 I'd imagine it was probably decently long.

01:49:56.000 I also was on Adam and Sitch's show.

01:49:58.000 I called him Adam and Stitch.

01:50:00.000 Yeah, wrong.

01:50:00.000 Sorry, buddy.

01:50:01.000 It's Sitch.

01:50:02.000 Like Situation.

01:50:03.000 Yes.

01:50:04.000 Now you know.

01:50:05.000 Let's read some more.

01:50:07.000 Let's grab, what do we got?

01:50:08.000 Waffle Sense says, only three indictments?

01:50:10.000 I want my president to have 100 indictments when we elect him in 2024.

01:50:13.000 It would be bigly.

01:50:14.000 I mean, at this rate, you might get that, honestly.

01:50:17.000 Careful what you wish for.

01:50:18.000 They let Sam Finkman freed out.

01:50:20.000 They dropped one of his charges.

01:50:22.000 Iggy the Incubus says, let's say none of the lawfare stops Trump.

01:50:24.000 They already shattered precedent by indicting him.

01:50:27.000 Assassinating presidents is more normal for these people.

01:50:30.000 Yeah, but as much as, like, RFK's mentioned that, we're well beyond that.

01:50:34.000 Because we've talked about it quite a bit.

01:50:36.000 They canonize.

01:50:37.000 They make martyrs of these people.

01:50:40.000 And so, physical assassinations have gone away, except in the most extreme circumstances, like, you know, say, Libya or Iraq.

01:50:47.000 Now it's all about destroy someone's character so that no one can look up to what they propose.

01:50:51.000 They also do subtle stuff like heart attack gun, the CIA working on that.

01:50:54.000 They don't want it to look like an assassination, plane crash.

01:50:56.000 I mean it's very easy with the technology we have now to make any death look like an accident.

01:51:01.000 Alex Jones was saying he was afraid that it would be Trump would go down in a plane crash.

01:51:05.000 Well, I mean, and I'm still waiting for, I mean, there's that one Simpson scene, man, where you got Trump in that coffin in his, you know, in his famous suit.

01:51:13.000 I feel that they're right pretty consistently. 0.99

01:51:15.000 I feel dirty about this, man, because Donald, I don't, you don't deserve this kind of crap, dude. 0.99

01:51:19.000 Me talking about, fantasizing about all that. 1.00

01:51:21.000 No, man, you do you, dude.

01:51:22.000 All right, Kyle Miller says, I find it funny that Tim thinks Harry, Chris, or any TikTok for Biden is going to be drafted.

01:51:28.000 I'm sure they will be exempt from it.

01:51:30.000 I completely disagree.

01:51:32.000 You know what?

01:51:32.000 These guys are expendable media spots.

01:51:37.000 They're foot soldiers.

01:51:38.000 Propagandists.

01:51:38.000 That's it.

01:51:39.000 They exist to sell the Democratic Party.

01:51:42.000 If they don't get drafted, it damages the credibility of the machine.

01:51:47.000 The machine will sacrifice these guys in two seconds to sell a draft.

01:51:51.000 And they will make them do it with smiles on their faces.

01:51:54.000 You'll get a video of Harry and Chris wearing their military uniforms being like, we're doing the right thing for our country.

01:52:00.000 Why aren't you?

01:52:00.000 And they're gonna be filming TikToks being deployed in the plane.

01:52:03.000 They're gonna be like, this is what it means to fight for your country and believe in America.

01:52:07.000 Well, you know, they probably will never see combat, right?

01:52:09.000 But it's just going to be the Ukraine situation with the girls. 1.00

01:52:13.000 You know, in the same with like the IDF in Israel, they always post the videos of these girls fully kitted out or they're dancing, things like that to make it more appealing.

01:52:22.000 Like, oh, this is what war is.

01:52:23.000 And they're going to be the propaganda TikTok guys of the war. 0.56

01:52:26.000 Exactly.

01:52:27.000 All right.

01:52:28.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:52:30.000 Nathan C says, I think DeSantis' campaign is doing great.

01:52:32.000 Did you see Trump's small audience and eerie PA this week?

01:52:35.000 No, but if DeSantis' poll's tanking, his donors bailing, and them laying off a bunch of staff is doing great, then I got a bridge to sell you.

01:52:42.000 And a sonogram video.

01:52:44.000 I think, yeah, I don't think he's doing so great.

01:52:46.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:52:47.000 I think that that's the nail in the coffin.

01:52:49.000 No, wait, it was a son and Freud, isn't it?

01:52:51.000 You said sonogram.

01:52:52.000 No, sonagrad.

01:52:53.000 Sonagrad?

01:52:53.000 That's what it was.

01:52:54.000 Okay, thanks.

01:52:55.000 Sonagrad.

01:52:57.000 Sonnenrad.

01:52:58.000 Sonnenrad.

01:52:59.000 Yeah, Sonnenrad.

01:52:59.000 There it is.

01:53:01.000 We will grab more superchats.

01:53:04.000 Jim Anson says, six years as an army ranger, five deployments to Afghanistan.

01:53:08.000 No matter how much tech you think you have, you always need a human with a rifle and grenades to seize territory.

01:53:14.000 You always need the meat grinder.

01:53:15.000 If he has a line on grenades, please let me know.

01:53:18.000 Drones can't occupy street corners.

01:53:21.000 And that's the important thing.

01:53:24.000 What do we got here?

01:53:24.000 Rath says, GrandThumb YouTube channel did a video where they tested the drone warfare seen in Ukraine.

01:53:30.000 They are veterans and share some interesting views.

01:53:32.000 You should have him on.

01:53:33.000 He is awesome.

01:53:34.000 He's very outspoken.

01:53:36.000 Get GrandThumb.

01:53:38.000 But he is genuinely amazing and he's recently started to come out and say, you know, what is a cancelable offense?

01:53:45.000 I mean, about everything going on, I think he'd be an awesome guest.

01:53:47.000 It's Garanthum.

01:53:48.000 It's very smart.

01:53:49.000 It's Garanthum.

01:54:04.000 I have one of those.

01:54:05.000 Dude's got balls of steel.

01:54:06.000 You know, I don't feel good.

01:54:07.000 No, that's never happened.

01:54:08.000 We should definitely have that guy on.

01:54:10.000 I don't know him, but I know people that know him.

01:54:12.000 Yeah.

01:54:13.000 Back in the days when they had clips and not magazines.

01:54:15.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:54:16.000 Yeah, people still say clip and not magazine.

01:54:18.000 I've done that a couple times back in the day.

01:54:21.000 What do we got?

01:54:21.000 Timothy Bond says, have y'all talked about the illegal lab they found in California with COVID mice?

01:54:25.000 No, what is that?

01:54:26.000 We didn't, but yeah, they found a Chinese bio lab in California.

01:54:29.000 We mentioned it last night.

01:54:29.000 Yeah.

01:54:29.000 It was like Chinese infiltrating the United States.

01:54:31.000 I didn't know you were referencing that.

01:54:33.000 What?

01:54:33.000 Yeah.

01:54:33.000 When did that happen?

01:54:35.000 They found it recently, but it's been here for at least, you know, a year, a couple years or something like that.

01:54:40.000 I don't know.

01:54:41.000 They're testing COVID on mice?

01:54:42.000 I'm not sure.

01:54:43.000 Right.

01:54:44.000 K-Toth Swiss says, I'm seeing this projecting smear attempt recently increasing, recently

01:54:49.000 increasingly more by the left.

01:54:52.000 You know the leftist tactic of accusing your opponent that of which you are guilty of. 0.99

01:54:56.000 Nice try, loser. 0.98

01:54:57.000 And I think that's a reference to the dude who said we were projecting because, you know, 0.99

01:55:01.000 we're a man or whatever.

01:55:03.000 Yeah, you guys are projecting.

01:55:04.000 DeSantis' campaign is crumbling.

01:55:07.000 He laid off a ton of people.

01:55:09.000 They overhired.

01:55:11.000 They've got all this negative press.

01:55:13.000 It is not going well.

01:55:14.000 The polls are tanking.

01:55:16.000 It's just, it's unfortunate, man.

01:55:18.000 It's crazy how quickly he just, out the gate, was on top, and then... He was on fire, and now... On fire.

01:55:24.000 Yeah, on fire, but not in a good way.

01:55:27.000 Yeah, he was on fire, and now his campaign's on fire.

01:55:30.000 That's crazy.

01:55:30.000 Yeah, the O-ring fell off the campaign.

01:55:35.000 In reference to Vivek, FireSky says, and now he went up by 35 points.

01:55:40.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:55:41.000 says, Vivek is team forward the line.

01:55:44.000 Vivek's great, man.

01:55:44.000 Well, and as this video gets more views, too, I mean, because this is the first day it's been out, it's been out for a few hours, it's only going to keep going up.

01:55:51.000 I'm pretty confident that if Vivek were the nominee, I would vote for him.

01:55:56.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:55:56.000 I would 100% vote for him.

01:55:58.000 Nathan C. says, DeSantis responded today to the indictment.

01:56:02.000 As president, I will end the weaponization of government, replace the FBI director, and ensure a single standard of justice for all Americans.

01:56:08.000 Oh, great.

01:56:08.000 Just the director?

01:56:09.000 Just the director, because we saw how great that works out in the Well, to be fair, Vivek didn't say he would remove anybody.

01:56:15.000 And so, it's like, okay, I can respect it, but, like, it's more than just that, right?

01:56:19.000 The DeSantis campaign is having a bunch of critical errors.

01:56:21.000 I want DeSantis to succeed.

01:56:23.000 We want more competition in this primary field.

01:56:26.000 And DeSantis has got a great record in Florida.

01:56:28.000 But if his supporters keep ignoring all the problems, plugging their ears, and saying, la la la, everything's fine, then you lose.

01:56:34.000 And fine, go ahead, I don't care.

01:56:37.000 Yo, I'll say it again.

01:56:38.000 DeSantis needs to fire Christina Pusha. 0.97

01:56:41.000 Like, I'm just, I'm flabbergasted he's not getting rid of this person who's flubbed everything.

01:56:47.000 I'm interested to see if she responds to these clips that come out.

01:56:51.000 Well, I tweeted it earlier!

01:56:53.000 And I'm just like, I avoided saying anything, I said it a little bit when the deepfake thing happened, and now it's just like after reading the semaphore piece where she's in this chat, she's the rapid response director, and they put out some of these videos, they put out the deepfake video, their team, she knows what's going on.

01:57:12.000 Are they just firing everyone around her for some reason?

01:57:14.000 She's clearly doing a bad job.

01:57:16.000 Sounds like they're friends.

01:57:17.000 Absolutely.

01:57:18.000 And Jeremy Redfern?

01:57:19.000 He's not even with the campaign.

01:57:21.000 He's in the governor's staff in Florida.

01:57:24.000 Yeah, he got moved positions.

01:57:26.000 But then you also have Brian Griffin.

01:57:27.000 You have these communications people that are just...

01:57:30.000 burning the whole thing to the ground.

01:57:31.000 And DeSantis is like, this is fine.

01:57:33.000 Well, you got you got Trump saying Ashley Babbitt was murdered and then you have one of DeSantis's number one guys saying she f'd around and found out.

01:57:39.000 So there's a huge disparity of communication.

01:57:42.000 When I reached out to Redfern and said, are you guys really standing by this deepfake?

01:57:46.000 He said something about it being like, it's just a meme.

01:57:49.000 Yeah, well that's the- in regards to burning the campaign down, there's one way to do it is setting the fire yourself.

01:57:54.000 Christina, you obviously didn't do that.

01:57:56.000 Another way is if you're in the building and it's burning around you and you just sit there and don't do anything about it, you're essentially- No, she set the fires.

01:58:01.000 You may not be the one burning it down, but you're allowing it to burn down.

01:58:04.000 She set the fires.

01:58:05.000 Whether or not you did, if you're found there...

01:58:08.000 I genuinely think it was the rug burn picture.

01:58:11.000 It was that, and then the George Soros one is really what tipped it over into full-blown

01:58:15.000 just attack everybody.

01:58:17.000 Just look at Twitter search, but there's a lot of personalities saying that she began

01:58:23.000 attacking allies and friends around this time.

01:58:28.000 And it's like, we had been speaking with her about coming on the show.

01:58:31.000 She said, yeah, she'd love to do it in the future.

01:58:33.000 We're big fans of DeSantis.

01:58:34.000 We want to do an interview with him.

01:58:35.000 And then all of a sudden, one day, she's just attacking me on Twitter.

01:58:38.000 Man.

01:58:39.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:58:40.000 You wonder if there's any, you know, like third-party influence there, because she used to be the girl.

01:58:44.000 She used to be the person that stood up to the media, that really just laid it down.

01:58:48.000 And everybody loved her.

01:58:49.000 Everybody's sharing clips of her.

01:58:50.000 It's always going viral.

01:58:51.000 She was another version of, basically, Kayleigh McEnany.

01:58:54.000 She was awesome.

01:58:55.000 And then now, all of a sudden, Complete flip-flop.

01:58:58.000 So you wonder if there's any, uh, you know, third party influence in that.

01:59:02.000 Video guy says Trump has a video response out.

01:59:05.000 We'll, we'll, what we'll do is in the members segment, we'll, uh, we'll jump to the video and then we'll, we'll start addressing it.

01:59:10.000 So we got a couple more minutes.

01:59:11.000 We'll read a couple more super chats.

01:59:13.000 Alright, Noah Sanders says, did you see that Cenk was on the PatrickBetDavid podcast?

01:59:18.000 I love how he's more afraid of Tim and you all than he is of PatrickBetDavid.

01:59:22.000 Ugar? 0.87

01:59:23.000 Was he talking about intercourse with horses again? 0.97

01:59:26.000 I know he likes to do that. 0.96

01:59:28.000 I hope so.

01:59:29.000 I love that reference.

01:59:30.000 I think the issue with PBD, it's like an entrepreneurial podcast.

01:59:37.000 It's not overtly political, but they talk politics.

01:59:40.000 This is a political show where we do nothing but read the news.

01:59:44.000 And we pull up sources for all of our stories.

01:59:46.000 Whenever we launch a story, I'm like, here's the article from this source.

01:59:50.000 And we always use NewsGuard certified sources, despite the fact that NewsGuard is heavily criticized by the right.

01:59:56.000 We do it for that reason.

01:59:57.000 This is the reason why they don't want to come on this show.

02:00:00.000 Because what we say is backed by their institutions and their sources.

02:00:04.000 We're not making it up.

02:00:05.000 They can't rebut it.

02:00:07.000 Yeah, if it's framed as a show where you're going to go in and get talked to about politics you're not familiar with, I understand why people are like, well, I'll do that when I'm ready.

02:00:15.000 Well, I mean, you can see how the service guy did on here.

02:00:17.000 And if Jen comes on the show and says, it's not true, Biden didn't do this, and I play the video, how is he going to go back on his show and maintain the lie?

02:00:27.000 He can't.

02:00:27.000 He'll lose followers.

02:00:29.000 He'll lose money.

02:00:29.000 They can't do it.

02:00:30.000 Anna should come on. 0.99

02:00:31.000 She's been pretty vocal.

02:00:32.000 She's fed up with nonsense right now.

02:00:34.000 It's actually, that's been interesting watching her character development because it does actually seem genuine.

02:00:38.000 You know, she's more so straying and she's getting so much hate from it.

02:00:42.000 There was dudes that actually put their hands on her. 0.76

02:00:44.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:00:45.000 What?

02:00:46.000 So, the thing that initiated Anna Kasparian's stuff is she was walking her dog and there were two dudes that looked like they were homeless dudes outside of her house or something like that.

02:01:02.000 And when she bent over or something like that to do something, to grab the dog or whatever, and one of the dudes walked up behind him and basically did the whole, like, you know, pelvic thrust.

02:01:12.000 And then they kept walking.

02:01:13.000 Nothing happened to her after that.

02:01:15.000 But it's like, she was like, okay, this has now actually come home.

02:01:18.000 The problem of homeless people around and lawlessness has actually affected her.

02:01:23.000 She understood that the policies that she was promoting, in turn, it actually affected her for once.

02:01:28.000 And that was her wake-up point, it seemed like.

02:01:30.000 And it's not just that, though.

02:01:32.000 There's other things that she's... That was the first thing, but then there were other things where she felt like people on the left were gaslighting her about things.

02:01:39.000 She went and she looked into Kyle Rittenhouse stuff and realized that she had been actively...

02:01:45.000 telling people things that were completely wrong and she's had a kind of an awakening where she's like, I didn't know that I was wrong.

02:01:53.000 You know, and that speaks volumes when one of the one of the more influential voices on the left, not only has come out and said, hey, I was wrong with this, this and this, but I was spreading this as if it was real.

02:02:05.000 And now she's getting attacked ruthlessly by tons of people on the left.

02:02:10.000 Personally, I feel bad for Anna getting the for being the recipient of the attacks, but I'm glad to see

02:02:16.000 the left behaving the way that they normally behave in attacking her.

02:02:20.000 Well, maybe we'll see if she's willing to come on the Culture War podcast.

02:02:23.000 That'd be great.

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02:03:30.000 We sure are.

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