Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Biden DIRECTLY Implicated By Devon Archer, Dems PANIC Over Scandal w-Liam Cosgrove

00:00:00.000 shocking new testimony from Hunter Biden's partner, Devin Archer.

00:00:27.000 Yo, get this.

00:00:28.000 We all saw the video of Joe Biden saying, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars.

00:00:34.000 And what we heard over and over again from liberals was that, but this was the policy of the United States.

00:00:39.000 We now know, thanks to Devin Archer, that Hunter Biden and executives from Burisma called D.C.

00:00:45.000 to get this prosecutor fired because they were investigating their company.

00:00:51.000 So there it is, laid out for you.

00:00:52.000 Devin Archer also testified that Joe Biden was on the phone with Hunter and his business associates.

00:00:59.000 CNN, of course, is trying to defend this, saying it was just the illusion of access.

00:01:03.000 Despite the fact 10% was reserved for the big guy.

00:01:06.000 That's the biggest news today, but we also have a lot of other crazy story which is probably very big as well.

00:01:10.000 Moscow hit by drone strikes.

00:01:12.000 The photos and videos are shocking.

00:01:14.000 And now you've got Oliver Stone saying he regrets voting for Biden because Biden may be starting World War 3. 0.99

00:01:20.000 And then on top of that, I'm throwing this in for good measure, there's a ridiculous article about a UFO nearly starting World War 3 by like taking control of missiles, but you know how much we love our stupid distractions. 0.97

00:01:31.000 And now we've got the story of a journalist. 0.93

00:01:33.000 Who was in Ukraine, was arrested, and just recently got out and is on the run in a long Twitter thread describing how he was tortured.

00:01:43.000 This is a crazy story.

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00:02:44.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Liam Cosgrove.

00:02:48.000 Thank you for having me, guys.

00:02:49.000 I'm excited to be on, long-time listener.

00:02:53.000 Yeah, so if you probably don't know me, because I don't have a huge following, but I go to the State Department, I go to the Pentagon, I'm a reporter for the Gray Zone, and I ask them questions, and I, you know, try to do the job of a journalist, which is hold the powerful accountable.

00:03:10.000 And, you know, not many people in those briefing rooms seem to be doing that, but yeah, thanks for having me.

00:03:17.000 Excited to be here.

00:03:18.000 Right on.

00:03:18.000 We also got Phil Labonte.

00:03:19.000 Hello, everybody.

00:03:20.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:03:21.000 I'm the lead singer of All That Remains.

00:03:23.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:03:26.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:03:27.000 What's happening, everybody?

00:03:28.000 I just drank a 1,300-calorie shake in, like, 15 minutes.

00:03:33.000 That was pretty intense.

00:03:34.000 Never did that before.

00:03:35.000 Building that muscle.

00:03:36.000 I gained 12 pounds in the last two weeks.

00:03:38.000 I think 10 of them are permanent.

00:03:40.000 The other two might be water weight.

00:03:41.000 We'll find out.

00:03:41.000 I weigh 142 for the show.

00:03:43.000 None of them are permanent.

00:03:45.000 Keep it up.

00:03:45.000 You gotta keep eating.

00:03:46.000 You said you gained 12 pounds and you weigh 142?

00:03:48.000 I started at 129.

00:03:48.000 I'm 142 right now.

00:03:50.000 Wow.

00:03:50.000 I actually started at 127 because I had cut weight for the music video for the scene where I'm like really emaciated.

00:03:58.000 So I went from 127 to 143.

00:03:59.000 Good job.

00:04:00.000 It's gonna be like five more weeks and Ian's gonna be jacked.

00:04:04.000 That's the plan.

00:04:06.000 You might want to slow down, though, because 12 in one week?

00:04:10.000 Yeah, it was 5 pounds on Friday night and then 5 pounds on Saturday, because I ate like three days' worth of food.

00:04:16.000 Yeah, but that's probably just like you put food in your stomach and then weighed yourself.

00:04:19.000 What happened was I worked out all week, and I ate 1,800 calories, and then on the weekend I just loaded calories, like ate three times as much as normal, and then I put on 10 pounds.

00:04:30.000 Is that good?

00:04:30.000 Like you felt fine?

00:04:31.000 Yeah, I felt pretty good.

00:04:32.000 You should weigh yourself at the same time every day like in the morning like after you go to the bathroom so that way you're kind of like in the same state like as empty of a stomach as you can get and do that like for a week or two and then you get a really good idea of how much you actually weigh as opposed to like varying because of water.

00:04:50.000 I got a smart watch you should use.

00:04:51.000 Oh yeah?

00:04:51.000 Yeah, it's over there.

00:04:53.000 Then you can track your health and fitness stuff.

00:04:54.000 Okay.

00:04:55.000 It'll show you like your heart rate and everything.

00:04:56.000 You can monitor it.

00:04:57.000 We'll get it after the show.

00:04:57.000 Okay, cool.

00:04:58.000 Just realized right now.

00:04:59.000 But we also got Surge here.

00:05:00.000 Press the button.

00:05:01.000 Yeah, how much creatine you taking, man?

00:05:02.000 Because that'll be about how much water we have.

00:05:03.000 About 10 milligrams a day.

00:05:05.000 Okay.

00:05:05.000 Well, now it's not a ton, but... Yeah, it's like two segments of five milligrams.

00:05:10.000 I think that's the dose right now.

00:05:11.000 Oh, okay.

00:05:12.000 Are you taking the testosterone like RFK?

00:05:14.000 No.

00:05:15.000 No, I have not, and that's interesting.

00:05:16.000 I don't know if I'm going to go that far.

00:05:18.000 He's not that deep.

00:05:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:19.000 It's all good, man.

00:05:20.000 You're looking good.

00:05:21.000 Is he not on testosterone?

00:05:22.000 Am I off there?

00:05:22.000 He is definitely on testosterone.

00:05:24.000 RFK?

00:05:24.000 I think so.

00:05:25.000 I'm nervous about getting started on testosterone.

00:05:26.000 I thought I heard him say that in an interview.

00:05:29.000 I've heard that once you start down, you've got to keep doing it.

00:05:31.000 If you stop, that it can mess you up, so I don't want to start on something that I can't stop.

00:05:35.000 Okay.

00:05:35.000 I mean, you're going to stop making testosterone eventually anyways.

00:05:37.000 Yeah, but what you do is, well, my understanding, and always talk to your doctor, because I'm not a nutritionist, but more fat in your diet, and then they have natural supplements that, like, there are things you can get that aren't testosterone, but it's what your body needs to make testosterone.

00:05:51.000 That's pretty cool.

00:05:52.000 Like eating eggs and stuff.

00:05:53.000 Anyways, I'm Surge.com, by the way.

00:05:56.000 Yeah, let's get to it.

00:05:57.000 That wraps up the Ian Health and Fitness Show.

00:05:59.000 Let's jump to the news.

00:06:00.000 We got this one from Fox News, ladies and gentlemen.

00:06:02.000 This is probably the biggest bombshell out of the Devin Archer testimony.

00:06:06.000 I mean, that's actually hard to say because we know that in this testimony we learned Joe Biden was on the phone 20 plus times in these business meetings while VP, but this one is shocking.

00:06:19.000 Devin Archer says Hunter Biden and Burisma execs called D.C.

00:06:22.000 to get Ukrainian prosecutor fired.

00:06:25.000 Devin Archer testified for hours.

00:06:27.000 Devin Archer testified Monday that Hunter Biden and top execs called D.C.

00:06:30.000 in 2015 to ask the Obama administration to help fire the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating the firm.

00:06:36.000 A source familiar with his testimony told Fox News Digital.

00:06:39.000 And they lied!

00:06:40.000 But ladies and gentlemen, we got Joe Biden right here admitting to all of it.

00:06:44.000 That was the assignment I got.

00:06:46.000 I got all the good ones.

00:06:49.000 And so I got Ukraine.

00:06:50.000 And I remember going over, convincing our team, our others too, convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees.

00:07:00.000 And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.

00:07:10.000 And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.

00:07:18.000 I said, you're not getting a billion.

00:07:21.000 I'm going to be leaving here.

00:07:22.000 I said, I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.

00:07:26.000 They said, you have no authority.

00:07:28.000 You're not the president.

00:07:29.000 The president said, I said, call him.

00:07:30.000 I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.

00:07:34.000 I said, you're not getting a billion.

00:07:36.000 I'm going to be leaving here.

00:07:37.000 I think it was what, six hours.

00:07:38.000 I look, I said, I'm leaving in six hours.

00:07:40.000 If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Oh, son of a bitch. 1.00

00:07:45.000 I got fired. 1.00

00:07:47.000 There it is, right there.

00:07:47.000 Shout out to DC Drano for that video, which has been circulating some time.

00:07:51.000 He reposted it today.

00:07:52.000 So, uh, that argument we heard over and over again from liberals, that it was just US policy to fire that prosecutor.

00:08:00.000 Now, I gotta say, that was never backed up by anything.

00:08:04.000 Why did the US want the prosecutor fired?

00:08:05.000 So, I argued about this, like, years ago, whenever this came out, with a kind of a mainstream liberal friend of mine, and he said what you just said.

00:08:13.000 He was like, you know, the entire, like, everyone in the US But this makes sense.

00:08:18.000 If you look at Burisma as an arm of U.S.

00:08:21.000 interests, Burisma acting as U.S.

00:08:22.000 policy interests called D.C.

00:08:24.000 and said no. So the impetus came from Burisma. But this makes sense. If you look at Burisma

00:08:31.000 as an arm of US interests, Burisma acting as US policy interests called DC and says

00:08:38.000 if you want us to keep operating this guy's got to go because he's investigating us.

00:08:42.000 So simply put, you could say it was US policy.

00:08:45.000 There was a former CIA director on the board of Burisma, as well as the vice president's son.

00:08:50.000 So of course it was our policy.

00:08:52.000 We were running the show.

00:08:54.000 But when you get to the brass tacks of it, corrupt institutions which were enriching people's private interests Called up their buddies in DC, or their dad, and said, this guy is getting in the way to 10% for the big guy.

00:09:09.000 So we've got Tony Bobulinski, this is one of the Hunter Biden associates saying outright, he's in on it.

00:09:15.000 You've got the emails, 10% held by, by, what does it say, HB for the big guy, is that what it said?

00:09:20.000 Was that, was that Burisma though, or is that the China thing?

00:09:23.000 10% for the big guy I think was a China deal.

00:09:25.000 My point specifically though is we can see in these business dealings there is evidence that Joe Biden is personally benefiting.

00:09:31.000 We also have the text from Hunter Biden where he said something to the effect of dad taking his salary or things like that.

00:09:37.000 So he's acting as a proxy for Joe Biden while Joe Biden was in government.

00:09:41.000 Joe Biden personally goes and gets the prosecutor fired who was investigating the company where his son was getting $83,000 a month.

00:09:48.000 There it is.

00:09:49.000 Devin Archer testified before Congress.

00:09:52.000 And the huge thing, but also real quick, if you just watch that clip and just listen to Joe Biden's tone in that clip, it's like he's just acting like he's talking to his nephew.

00:10:04.000 He's just bragging, brazenly bragging.

00:10:08.000 He's like, I gotta leave in about six minutes.

00:10:11.000 I got a flight to catch.

00:10:12.000 Why don't you fire that guy? 0.62

00:10:13.000 He's like, He sounds like a mafia guy who's, like, proud of, like— That's probably— It really does sound like a line written for, like, a— A mafia movie.

00:10:22.000 He's, like— Listen, Joe, if you don't fire the guy in six minutes, you ain't getting the money. 0.99

00:10:26.000 Yeah, he's, like, talking shit just publicly about what Trump was impeached over. 0.98

00:10:31.000 That speaks to the way that politics in Washington, D.C. 0.99

00:10:35.000 is handled generally, though.

00:10:36.000 I mean, or I would believe, that would lead me to believe.

00:10:39.000 Because he doesn't think it's a big deal.

00:10:42.000 Exactly.

00:10:43.000 It's no problem.

00:10:44.000 It's very normal for him.

00:10:46.000 It comes off as, you know, as, you know, obviously this is the case.

00:10:51.000 This wasn't the first time that he behaved like that or whatever.

00:10:54.000 So, I mean, it does speak to the tenor and the way business is done not just with Washington but obviously internationally as well and the US if the US has one of the less corrupt governments on earth which I don't know for sure if it does or not but I know there are places that are a real mess but if if the US does have a less corrupt government and that's the way that business is handled

00:11:23.000 Among you know someone that was the vice president who'd been in in DC for 45 years at that at that point or whatever then you know that just imagine the rest of the world the rest of the world's a mess and you know Ukraine is a Absolute pig sty because everyone knows that Ukraine is is Well, everyone is aware of the the root the the story or narrative that Ukraine is one of the more most corrupt governments in the world 100%. 0.69

00:11:47.000 And I don't know, but I would assume Russia is, too.

00:11:51.000 But, like, that's why, you know, it's so crazy that, like, we're involved in this war in the first place, because we're talking about two very corrupt, very authoritarian, which we can get into, like, you know, pre-war Zelensky's authoritarian tendencies.

00:12:07.000 But, like, why the U.S.

00:12:09.000 seems to think it needs to have a dog in this fight of, like, You know, why do we care which corrupt oligarch rules over Crimea or the Donbas?

00:12:17.000 It's like, we shouldn't really care.

00:12:19.000 They're both, like, horribly corrupt countries to begin with.

00:12:22.000 But what's interesting from this stuff, and then there was Chuck Grassley on the Senate floor the other day who talked about one of these, I think, Burisma associates, or one of Hunter Biden's associates in Ukraine, had recorded 19 phone calls, 17 with Hunter Biden, two with Joe Biden, for the purpose of blackmail.

00:12:41.000 This was Chuck Grassley saying this.

00:12:43.000 I don't know if he produced any, like, documentation for it.

00:12:46.000 But, um, you know, so... And why that's scary is, like, could our president be blackmailed into supporting this war?

00:12:56.000 Yes.

00:12:57.000 And World War III is a real risk from this war.

00:13:02.000 So, like, the implications of, like, I mean... Russia is not viewing this as Russia versus Ukraine.

00:13:10.000 Their pundits, all their personalities are saying, NATO versus Russia.

00:13:15.000 So they're very much viewing this as international conflict.

00:13:17.000 And it's only the most naive or the most duplicitous individuals who say, we are not at war with Russia.

00:13:23.000 We absolutely are.

00:13:24.000 You don't get to provide weapons, training, military, and volunteers, and then be like, but we have nothing to do with this war.

00:13:32.000 Yeah, no, and I agree.

00:13:33.000 And it's even worse because, like, I think it's still a majority.

00:13:36.000 We can maybe pull up the polls if they're up there.

00:13:39.000 But, like, how many Americans still support the Ukraine war?

00:13:41.000 And I think it's a majority.

00:13:43.000 And obviously these people think, you know, we're fighting for democracy, we're fighting to protect international borders.

00:13:49.000 But, like, if the truth were to come out that, like, no, we're fighting because, like, they have dirt on Joe Biden.

00:13:55.000 And we're literally risking the entire world, and they might have... Okay, there's the stats.

00:13:59.000 This is Gallup from one month ago.

00:14:00.000 62% in June 2023 support Ukraine reclaiming territory.

00:14:05.000 However, it is going down.

00:14:06.000 It's really slowly, slowly going down.

00:14:08.000 I mean, yeah, I mean, I think hopefully what would bring that bar to the left more would be, you know, educating people on the real reasons we're at war.

00:14:23.000 And I don't know if it's because Did they have blackmail on Joe Biden?

00:14:25.000 No. 0.99

00:14:26.000 It could just be geopolitical, like fucking, you know, uh, you know, the neocons. 0.98

00:14:32.000 It is very much wanting to gain access to energy for Europe to expand the European economy. 0.95

00:14:37.000 The European economy is stagnating.

00:14:38.000 If you can supply weapons to Ukraine to damage Russia's military, that's good for the US. 0.99

00:14:46.000 But yeah, they say that, but I don't get why that's good for the US.

00:14:49.000 Why is that an end?

00:14:51.000 Why is weakening Russia, which by the way means killing young men on the battlefield, why is that an end to the US?

00:14:57.000 And I once, I was on, I don't know if we published this, but I was on Capitol Hill and I asked this to Dan Crenshaw.

00:15:05.000 He was like, hey, we're weakening a strategic adversary.

00:15:07.000 And I was like, well, why are they a strategic adversary?

00:15:10.000 And he was just like, oh, you're pro-Russia, I'll see you later.

00:15:12.000 And it's like, no, I'm just like, I don't want to blow up the world.

00:15:17.000 Because they're a BRICS nation, they want to get off the U.S. 1.00

00:15:19.000 petrodollar, they want to create their own rival currency, they're starting to, and the U.S.

00:15:23.000 views that as a big threat.

00:15:24.000 Russia is the easier target out of the bunch.

00:15:26.000 China is too large. 0.98

00:15:28.000 So in the meantime, NATO expands its presence in Europe, gains more control, bolsters the European economy to compete with the Chinese economic bloc, and Russia, being the easier target, goes after them right now.

00:15:41.000 Funny thing is, they didn't used to be in BRICS, and they didn't used to be trying to get another currency.

00:15:45.000 Like, why were they our strategic enemy ever?

00:15:47.000 I don't understand.

00:15:48.000 After the Soviets fell, it was like, yo, that's our best opportunity. 0.98

00:15:50.000 Let's go back in time, my friend!

00:15:52.000 Yeah, let's go to 1993.

00:15:53.000 What the hell's going on?

00:15:54.000 Yeah, you keep going back.

00:15:56.000 Just because the Soviet Union collapsed doesn't mean that the sentiments and the people there, their worlds changed.

00:16:01.000 For a lot of people, the world did change.

00:16:03.000 But for powerful individuals, political leaders, and the oligarchs who are seizing control, they were born and bred of this world, East versus West.

00:16:03.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:16:11.000 So you can go all the way back and keep going back in time to find where the dawn of conflict emerges, but U.S.

00:16:17.000 interests competing with foreign interests, and the U.S.

00:16:20.000 has been, in many ways, losing this.

00:16:23.000 In a lot of ways.

00:16:24.000 And I think a lot of it has to do with There is the fact that being a constitutional republic weakens us in terms of executive action.

00:16:35.000 The Chinese Communist Party snaps their fingers and they get things done. 0.86

00:16:37.000 They build a bridge overnight.

00:16:38.000 Why?

00:16:39.000 Because if you don't do it, you get locked in a gulag.

00:16:41.000 But then they also build a bunch of empty apartment buildings that have to get torn down because, you know.

00:16:47.000 They're using a combination of the two.

00:16:52.000 or it's you know it can you can you're at that you're at the sure but there's

00:16:56.000 a ghost city there's a combination of the two they have so this is this is an

00:17:01.000 interesting merger between the total communist authoritarianism and having a

00:17:06.000 little bit of low tier low-level economic activity be allowed so this

00:17:11.000 results in some kind of capitalistic growth but you have got to be a member

00:17:14.000 of the party the party's got to be in fashion of your company

00:17:18.000 Fascism.

00:17:18.000 Yeah, essentially, right?

00:17:20.000 Yep.

00:17:20.000 So, the U.S., I would say, you know, my view of Joe Biden, or any of these presidents, save Trump, in my lifetime, it's the intelligence agencies that are running everything, and I think it's fairly obvious, and the way we've always described it, and even for Barack Obama, is that he's like, when I get in office, we're gonna bring our troops back!

00:17:38.000 And then as soon as he gets in office, he sits down and they go, Mr. President, and they slap the documents in front of him and say, this is why you'll do as you're told.

00:17:45.000 And then anybody who says otherwise, they just slide a picture of JFK right up and say, once again, this is why you'll do what you're told.

00:17:52.000 So I do think that, I think the intelligence agencies behind the scenes, first, most of what we think we know is probably wrong.

00:17:59.000 The news we're reading is probably wrong.

00:18:00.000 Come on, we know they lie all the time.

00:18:02.000 And we're still trying to base our perception on this war off of all of this stuff and what Joe Biden is doing.

00:18:08.000 I do think the people at the CIA and the FBI want the U.S.

00:18:12.000 to win and would prefer it if all of our lives were better.

00:18:16.000 However, in terms of conflict, we are just assets on a battlefield.

00:18:20.000 We are economic numbers, so freedom doesn't matter.

00:18:23.000 Our rights doesn't matter. 0.98

00:18:24.000 The Constitution doesn't matter.

00:18:25.000 All that matters is the global sphere of influence for U.S.

00:18:29.000 and Western interests.

00:18:30.000 But even if you're like you're at the CIA and like you think in these terms and like you you know you want to maintain the petrodollar which which makes sense why you want to maintain the petrodollar but but the risks like they don't think of the risks of like like why is the Doan boss worth risking nuclear war if you're the CIA.

00:18:53.000 It could give Russia carte blanche access to the Black Sea through Crimea. 0.52

00:18:59.000 They already have it.

00:19:00.000 But if they really solidify it that means that they're gonna make Turkey become their ally and that's a threat that Turkey will leave NATO because Turkey is the exit from the Black Sea into the Mediterranean and you can't get out without Turkey. 0.55

00:19:11.000 It would be sick if Turkey got out of NATO.

00:19:14.000 Yeah, that would be the end of everything.

00:19:16.000 If Turkey leaves NATO and joins BRICS, I mean, we would basically bifurcate the Earth into two hemispheres of nuclear power. 0.87

00:19:22.000 Why do you say that?

00:19:23.000 They control the Bosphorus.

00:19:25.000 What?

00:19:25.000 They control the Bosphorus.

00:19:26.000 They control the strait into the Mediterranean from the Black Sea.

00:19:29.000 That's tons of economic activity for Europe that is under control of Turkey.

00:19:34.000 So long as Turkey is working with NATO, we have that advantage. 0.87

00:19:38.000 Yeah, but I mean, just having Turkey not in NATO doesn't mean that Turkey automatically will shut off the canal.

00:19:46.000 No, no, no.

00:19:46.000 I mean if Turkey sides with BRICS.

00:19:49.000 If Turkey does say to the West, you are now on the, let's just say, the not nice end of the stick.

00:19:57.000 That's gonna put more pressure on us.

00:19:59.000 The issue with, you know, when I look at Ukraine, we gotta go back, and the place I typically start, and it goes back much further than this, obviously, is the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, Syria.

00:20:08.000 The U.S.

00:20:09.000 and our interests in the Middle East obviously were a conflict between the U.S.

00:20:13.000 and Russia.

00:20:14.000 I mean, even going back to the Mujahideen, the support of these groups so that they could fight the Soviets, et cetera, we're still in there for very similar reasons.

00:20:22.000 Why is it that Syria falls into civil war?

00:20:24.000 How convenient for the United States.

00:20:26.000 When we were facing obstruction from Bashar al-Assad, all of a sudden the country is collapsing.

00:20:32.000 Well, we want to build the pipeline.

00:20:33.000 Pipeline would have gone to Europe, offset Russia's gas problem monopoly, and would have helped bolster energy and expansion, economic expansion in Europe.

00:20:41.000 All of this stuff ties together.

00:20:43.000 You then, it's no surprise that there's a counter-terrorism official from the CIA, a director who is now on the board of Burisma, an energy company.

00:20:50.000 Hunter Biden joins that board.

00:20:52.000 It's U.S. 0.63

00:20:53.000 interest to stop the prosecutor investigating it.

00:20:55.000 This is all about, I think they're looking at hard energy expansion economic numbers.

00:21:00.000 They're saying, we want X amount of growth over this many years.

00:21:03.000 They're looking at it like Russia's growing at this pace, China's growing at this pace.

00:21:06.000 They're working together.

00:21:07.000 If we do not have X amount of growth, they take over.

00:21:13.000 Okay, so if you take a step back, even if you're still at the CIA looking through their perspective, and you take a step back and you look at how things have gone over the last 20 years with all of these regime change efforts we undergo, we spend trillions of dollars And we just completely destroy these countries that we were hoping to kind of control, and then you look at Afghanistan, like, we pull out anyways, so it's like... But you're missing the bigger picture.

00:21:39.000 We don't have a good track record.

00:21:41.000 Do we destroy the countries that agree to our control?

00:21:44.000 Uh, no.

00:21:45.000 The countries that bend the knee and kiss the pinky ring, we never hear about invasions or coup d'etat or anything like that because they did as they were told.

00:21:53.000 It's the countries that defy the U.S., and not just the U.S., but Western powers, that face these, you know, We came, we saw, he died.

00:22:03.000 That's how Hillary Clinton described it. 1.00

00:22:06.000 About Gaddafi in Libya.

00:22:07.000 Right.

00:22:08.000 You know, so a reason will be made and the people who don't fall in line do as they're told.

00:22:13.000 Well, so what I was going to say is like, if, because you kind of said the goal is like control and money, which I guess are two different things, but if like, if they just wanted money, if like this, if like the people at these defense companies and, and, you know, CIA wherever want money, it's like, why don't they just, It's not about money.

00:22:36.000 Economic expansion.

00:22:38.000 They want to see the sphere of influence of Western nations expand and maintain a unipolar domination in the planet, on the planet, on Earth.

00:22:48.000 China is pushing that boundary and we are now very likely, I think it's safe to say, we are a multipolar world, meaning we now have the rise of multiple superpowers, which brings the very real risk of mass conflict and war. 0.60

00:23:02.000 After World War II, we saw the rise of the liberal economic order.

00:23:06.000 The intention was to prevent this from happening again.

00:23:08.000 You know, they tried it with the League of Nations, United Nations.

00:23:11.000 They want... Well, but okay, so on that point, they created it to prevent this from happening again, but now the evidence seems overwhelming that, like, it's the driving force for why it's happening again.

00:23:23.000 Always.

00:23:23.000 And so it's there's no there's no there's no simple answer to this exercise has been like difficult for me because my

00:23:28.000 brain does not Work, I imagine like any of these people at the CIA

00:23:32.000 But like why they need to dominate and influence the entire world when it's like look at like look at this amazing landmass

00:23:38.000 We have over here on like, you know, the Western Hemisphere It's like why can't we just like enjoy this and live on our

00:23:45.000 farm and like take it easy?

00:23:47.000 Especially these guys at the top who have all the control in the world.

00:23:49.000 And I agree, but they've made the argument very clear.

00:23:52.000 China will not stop. 0.87

00:23:53.000 They're trying to take the South China Sea.

00:23:54.000 They're building military bases on these fake islands.

00:23:56.000 Yeah, but they're not going to come here.

00:23:58.000 They're not going to come here.

00:23:59.000 But what about Alaska?

00:24:00.000 What about the Aleutians?

00:24:01.000 It's a question of will they come here or will they expand their influence into Africa, which they're already doing, South America, the Belt and Road Initiative, and then all of a sudden in the U.S.

00:24:10.000 we are constrained and can't get access to certain resources.

00:24:13.000 That is their view and they say it plainly.

00:24:15.000 I'm not saying they're right, but they've made their argument very clear.

00:24:17.000 But also Belt and Road is like, like military bases, like Belt and Road is them like, you know, getting countries in debt, which you can say is like the U.S.

00:24:25.000 Western model.

00:24:26.000 Right, but I mean, like, they're building infrastructure or they're, like, influencing them to, like, you know, on international... to vote with them on international organizations.

00:24:35.000 But, like, they only have, like, um... I think they only have, like, two or three foreign military bases and they're, like, artificial islands near China.

00:24:42.000 We have military bases all over.

00:24:44.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:24:45.000 It's like, why are we so worried about China when they don't yet have all these foreign military bases?

00:24:49.000 That's why.

00:24:50.000 Because they're expanding.

00:24:51.000 It's kind of like... But not militarily.

00:24:53.000 They are.

00:24:55.000 And you're saying it's a small number, but that doesn't matter.

00:24:58.000 What matters is they are.

00:24:59.000 That's it.

00:25:00.000 The intelligence agencies- But we have troops in Taiwan, we have troops in the Philippines- That's not an argument!

00:25:04.000 No, but it's like, why do you think they're doing it?

00:25:04.000 That's not an argument!

00:25:06.000 Maybe because- maybe we could talk to them and say, hey, guys, don't build this base on this artificial island.

00:25:11.000 We'll pull our troops out of Taiwan. 0.98

00:25:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:25:14.000 Negotiations could happen to prevent it as opposed to like... War mongering.

00:25:18.000 You're not making an argument.

00:25:19.000 It's simple.

00:25:20.000 There's a unipolar power structure where the West controls things through economics and through conflict and those that don't fall in line.

00:25:28.000 Hillary Clinton, we came, we saw, he died.

00:25:29.000 That's what happens.

00:25:30.000 China starts expanding.

00:25:32.000 Russia teams up with them.

00:25:33.000 This is a threat.

00:25:34.000 It doesn't matter if the guy across the street threw one rock at you.

00:25:39.000 The moment he does, you call the police and say, I will not stand for this.

00:25:42.000 Now you can argue that the guy with the rock threw it at a guy who's got 17 tanks and a bunch of RPGs lined up, but either way they're gonna be like, oh, he's throwing rocks at us!

00:25:52.000 Right.

00:25:52.000 China is expanding in certain areas, their influence is growing, their economy is growing, it is a threat to the U.S., we are now facing a multipolar world, and these I view it like, after World War II, you get the liberal

00:26:06.000 economic order, you get these powerful elites who are like, we are going to use this

00:26:10.000 position to control everything and prevent this from happening.

00:26:13.000 They pass it down to their kids, the next generation, who start to slowly screw things

00:26:16.000 up, who pass it down to their kids, who have no idea what the hell they're doing, and have

00:26:20.000 fumbled the whole thing.

00:26:21.000 And now we are facing a massive crisis.

00:26:25.000 But these people inherited this.

00:26:27.000 They don't know better.

00:26:29.000 So they're just thinking, we better fight this war to prevent it from happening somewhere else.

00:26:33.000 And you're like, okay, well, look, there's two outcomes.

00:26:36.000 I suppose the parent tree is, we do nothing.

00:26:39.000 Thucydides Trap dictates the likelihood of World War Three is tremendous.

00:26:42.000 And then war happens, or we just start it all now.

00:26:45.000 Push back and hope that holding back Russia from the Donbass and putting pressure on China stops the expansion and we don't end up in a Thucydides trap.

00:26:55.000 Yeah, I, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't see, well, in Ukraine specifically, like, do you see Russia, well, certainly not Crimea.

00:27:05.000 I think there's no shot Russia leaves Crimea.

00:27:07.000 There's two million Russian civilians who live there.

00:27:09.000 And it's basically been Russia.

00:27:13.000 We had, I think it was Dave Smith, I think it was Dave Smith who mentioned, Russia didn't invade and take over Crimea, they stepped out the door of the military base and said, hi guys.

00:27:22.000 I think like three people died or something.

00:27:24.000 But it's not that, the point is that they already had a military presence there.

00:27:28.000 So it was that they walked out of the military base and said, how's it going everybody?

00:27:32.000 And I think they've actually had that base for hundreds of years.

00:27:34.000 That's right.

00:27:38.000 I just hope there's people in the U.S.

00:27:40.000 who understand that and are like, oh yeah, we're just waiting to play that card.

00:27:43.000 Nobody knows any of this stuff.

00:27:46.000 Well, what do you mean?

00:27:47.000 You go talk to the average person, average liberal.

00:27:49.000 No, no, no, I'm talking about people in the top brass of the U.S.

00:27:52.000 Oh, right, right, right.

00:27:53.000 The challenge with those who support all this is that you go and ask any liberal who's waving a Ukrainian flag, and they won't be able to tell you the first thing.

00:28:01.000 They can't point to Ukraine on the map.

00:28:03.000 Yeah, I mean, that was the whole Dan Crenshaw thing of just saying I'm pro-Russia when I tried to ask him.

00:28:09.000 It's just like it was like the war with Iraq and invasion of Afghanistan.

00:28:13.000 It was like, are you with the terrorists or are you with us? 0.96

00:28:15.000 It's like, dude, you want to invade a foreign country and kill their leader? 0.99

00:28:18.000 I got questions. 0.92

00:28:19.000 And they're like, well, then you support the terrorists. 1.00

00:28:21.000 No, shut up. 1.00

00:28:22.000 But that's what they go for because the average person doesn't care, doesn't want to care, and doesn't want to pay attention. 0.96

00:28:26.000 They want to play their games, they want to watch their shows, they want to see Taylor Swift.

00:28:31.000 They don't want to deal with this stuff.

00:28:32.000 I don't blame them.

00:28:33.000 And I will give a shout out to Dave Smith.

00:28:35.000 That bar that Serge pulled up earlier with the poll, going slowly to the left, I think Dave Smith has been doing a fantastic job of describing the history of this war to people and disseminating it.

00:28:48.000 So, shout out to him.

00:28:49.000 Let's jump to this next story we got from the Post Millennial.

00:28:52.000 I love this.

00:28:53.000 We have testimony that Joe Biden is on the phone with Hunter Biden and his associates at the same time.

00:29:00.000 We have testimony from one of Hunter's associates that Joe Biden is getting kickbacks.

00:29:05.000 And then CNN says Hunter Biden was selling the illusion of access because Joe was on the phone, but Joe wasn't talking shop.

00:29:15.000 Does he need to?

00:29:16.000 Seriously, if they're sharing bank accounts, sharing email addresses, if Joe Biden is taking his son's salary, it's like the mafia, it's like the guy's talking, negotiating a deal with the other guy and he's like, listen, Don says he wants you to do this or else.

00:29:31.000 And then they're like, oh, I'm not going to do anything.

00:29:33.000 And then all of a sudden the Don walks in the front door and goes, how's you guys doing?

00:29:35.000 And they're like, oh, everything's good, man.

00:29:37.000 We're doing everything you ask.

00:29:38.000 And they run away.

00:29:39.000 See, they're trying to make this claim that makes literally no sense.

00:29:44.000 The moment you put Joe Biden on the phone, it's a whip crack.

00:29:47.000 The Vice President is in the room.

00:29:49.000 Don't you forget it.

00:29:50.000 So I hear your point and I agree with it, but also that claim is just not true.

00:29:54.000 I mean, this was in the New York Post the other week of when apparently there's a text from one of the Burisma executives and he says to Hunter, can you ring your dad?

00:30:04.000 And then Hunter Where's that from?

00:30:08.000 speakerphone and, sorry this was not a text, this must have been a call, but Hunter goes

00:30:14.000 on speakerphone with Joe Biden and says these guys quote need our support.

00:30:18.000 So I mean he wasn't just selling the illusion of access, he was putting these guys on speakerphone

00:30:23.000 with his dad and telling his dad we need to help them.

00:30:27.000 Where is that from?

00:30:28.000 That's from New York Post.

00:30:30.000 Yes, I think it's fair to say that CNN is desperately lying.

00:30:36.000 What does the CNN article look like?

00:30:38.000 I'm actually curious to see how they frame that, other than post-millennial.

00:30:41.000 I think this is it.

00:30:42.000 Former business partner says Hunter Biden sold the illusion of access to Joe Biden.

00:30:48.000 Former business partner says, source says. 0.98

00:30:50.000 That is so ridiculous. 0.98

00:30:53.000 What? 0.99

00:30:54.000 We're business partners.

00:30:55.000 We got a source saying a couple degrees of separation.

00:31:00.000 I'm surprised they published that.

00:31:01.000 Plausible deniability right there.

00:31:04.000 Yeah, we know.

00:31:06.000 Tim, as you were doing your mafia metaphor, it's like if the mob member was like, hey, we got a job for you, but before you go, you're going to take my son along.

00:31:15.000 How is that not mafia interference with the guy's son, the mob member's son?

00:31:19.000 He's bringing his son along for the game now? 0.90

00:31:22.000 This crackhead is all of a sudden invited along because he's a son.

00:31:25.000 The son of the boss goes to a bunch of guys who are delivery guys or drivers or meals or whatever. 0.90

00:31:31.000 And it's like, I want you guys to move all this product.

00:31:34.000 My dad wants it done.

00:31:35.000 They go, your dad doesn't want this done.

00:31:36.000 This is your job.

00:31:37.000 You're trying to upstage your dad.

00:31:38.000 He gets on the phone and says, hey, dad, how you doing?

00:31:41.000 And then his dad's like, everything's going good, son.

00:31:43.000 He's like, yeah, I'm here with the boys.

00:31:45.000 They're saying everything's good, right, boys?

00:31:48.000 So he didn't talk shop, but come on.

00:31:50.000 We know exactly what that was.

00:31:52.000 Yeah, I agree. 0.99

00:31:55.000 Even if you're doing that, it's still fucked up. 0.98

00:31:56.000 But that isn't even what Biden was doing. 0.97

00:31:59.000 Joe is clearly more involved than that.

00:32:02.000 What's, like, the dirtiest stuff he was doing?

00:32:03.000 Do you have the data?

00:32:05.000 On, on... The quotes, or, like, any, any specific, the specific, like, the three most corrupt things that he did that we have, like, documented proof of, or extreme amounts of evidence?

00:32:14.000 Well, I guess I don't know, like, you know, policy, like, which policies arose from it.

00:32:18.000 I just mean, like, the text... I don't know if there's anything that originates actually from Joe, but it's just, like, the text that Tim referenced earlier of Hunter saying, um you know you know pops he's like he's talking to his nephew or his daughter or something he's like pops takes 50% of all my shit i'm not going to do that to you when you get older so i mean like why would hunter lie about that you know what i mean like that so in private texts yeah exactly and so that's one example um i guess we don't have here from new york post how joe responded to these guys need our help but oh oh but there is a timeline this so this was like

00:32:50.000 It was like, um, it was like a matter of weeks later that he gave that speech we played, and he got the guy fired.

00:32:58.000 Um, so yeah, I mean, the timeline lines up as well.

00:33:00.000 Like, Dad, these guys need our support.

00:33:02.000 A couple weeks go by, the prosecutor's fired.

00:33:05.000 I love that they're like, Joe was on the phone with Hunter's associates a couple dozen times.

00:33:11.000 For no reason!

00:33:12.000 He didn't talk shop.

00:33:12.000 Yeah.

00:33:13.000 It's like, wait, wait, wait.

00:33:15.000 Two dozen times on the phone with these guys.

00:33:17.000 What were they talking about?

00:33:18.000 Going golfing?

00:33:18.000 Or is that what Joe was or Hunter was?

00:33:21.000 Joe was on the phone, on speakerphone over 20 times with Hunter Biden's associates.

00:33:24.000 That's what Devin Archer testified.

00:33:26.000 Oh, wow.

00:33:26.000 So the question is, like, for what reason?

00:33:29.000 It's not a social call.

00:33:30.000 Yeah, exactly. Which is another reason that CNN article is ridiculous. Like, did they include that fact in there? 0.94

00:33:35.000 Like, it was kind of just the illusion, but also they were on the phone two dozen times.

00:33:39.000 I really do feel like unless the Democrats decide that they're gonna

00:33:43.000 replace Joe Biden for running for president as the candidate, I don't think that

00:33:49.000 there's anything that's gonna happen no matter what the evidence comes out.

00:33:52.000 No matter who says anything. 0.96

00:33:54.000 Because I think Merrick Garland is incredibly corrupt.

00:33:57.000 I don't think that he's gonna... I think that he's gonna protect the Bidens as much as possible.

00:34:03.000 And it sucks to be so blackpilled.

00:34:06.000 But really, I mean...

00:34:08.000 The evidence is overwhelming that it's worth having hearings about and, you know, you can barely get... Democrats don't even want to, you know, hear the evidence.

00:34:20.000 So I just... I hate the fact that I'm black-pilling.

00:34:22.000 Did you say at the beginning, though, that you think they are going to replace Joe Biden?

00:34:26.000 No, no, I said unless they're going to.

00:34:28.000 Unless they start to really, like, wind up Gavin Newsom or whatever.

00:34:33.000 I love that Harry Sisson guy, because he's like 20, but he's got the education of like a third grader.

00:34:40.000 And I'm not saying to be mean, I'm saying quite literally, he tweeted out that, oh, was it Alito?

00:34:45.000 Supreme Court said that Congress has no authority to regulate them, and he was shocked by it, and I'm like, bro, we learned that in like second grade.

00:34:51.000 It's called the branches of government.

00:34:54.000 They're all equal branches of government.

00:34:56.000 They have no power over each other.

00:34:57.000 They have degrees of power over each other for checks and balances.

00:35:01.000 That's about it.

00:35:02.000 But he really doesn't get it.

00:35:03.000 And then he recently posted a photo, I bring him up, because he posted a photo of Joe Biden looking horrifying.

00:35:10.000 And he was like, he looks so cool.

00:35:12.000 It's like, dude, you know, I gotta be honest, if you're a Gen Z dude, and you're following that guy, and you agree that flabby, skipping leg day Joe Biden is cool looking, Oh, I'm sorry, man.

00:35:29.000 The Harry Sisson thing's interesting.

00:35:31.000 It's him and his buddy.

00:35:32.000 They just kind of appeared out of nowhere, and they're like these young, kind of good-looking, like, young guys, and they do the frenetic thing where they do this a lot, like the Dash Dobrofsky thing, but it caught on, I guess.

00:35:41.000 It's like a meme.

00:35:42.000 Yeah, I was just trying to find the clip now.

00:35:43.000 There's a hilarious one where he's just, like, frantically, like, he doesn't take a breath, and he's just talking, but it's hilarious.

00:35:50.000 But what I think your point about those guys... He's scared to come on the show.

00:35:53.000 I'd love that Harry on.

00:35:54.000 They should come on, that'd be fun.

00:35:56.000 But your point about those guys coming out of nowhere, I think 100% those guys would not have a huge following if the right didn't just make fun of them all the time.

00:36:08.000 I agree.

00:36:10.000 All their followers are the right making fun of them.

00:36:12.000 But on purpose.

00:36:13.000 That's why I see them, is because people are doing that on purpose.

00:36:16.000 The right doesn't want to prop up the most articulate liberal speaker. 0.98

00:36:20.000 They want to prop up the worst and most pathetic liberal speaker, so then they can knock him 0.99

00:36:25.000 down and blow him, you know, straw man. 0.99

00:36:27.000 Basically be like, oh, look at this guy and his arguments.

00:36:30.000 You know, if there's someone who's very calm and makes a well-reasoned liberal argument,

00:36:33.000 nobody's going to be outraged.

00:36:35.000 They might respond and be like, I think you're wrong about this, and they'll send a link, and then no one cares.

00:36:40.000 But you find someone who is genuinely ignorant of the facts, but screaming about nonsense, and you're just like, this is a spectacle.

00:36:48.000 But do you think Harry Sisson is doing that on purpose?

00:36:51.000 I think he's getting paid to do it.

00:36:52.000 Paid by who?

00:36:54.000 He works for some talent agency.

00:36:57.000 Not directly.

00:36:58.000 He works for some talent agency that gets funding from certain democratic groups.

00:37:02.000 So, I've seen reporting.

00:37:03.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:04.000 And he gets paid to post.

00:37:05.000 I mean, that's my assumption based on the news reporting.

00:37:08.000 I could be wrong, but it's clout building.

00:37:11.000 Everybody who does this and generates followers is going to make money from doing it.

00:37:11.000 Okay.

00:37:15.000 Okay, but I thought you were saying, like, he's intentionally being stupid and ignorant because he knows it'll rile up the conservatives. 0.99

00:37:20.000 That's true, too. 0.99

00:37:21.000 So then why would the DNC pay to, like, embarrass themselves with a guy like Harry Sisson?

00:37:24.000 No one said they were smart.

00:37:26.000 But I think you're thinking, too, absolutely. 0.99

00:37:29.000 There are people who post things intentionally stupid because it generates attention. 0.99

00:37:29.000 Right. 0.99

00:37:34.000 I post troll posts, and then the media takes them seriously. 0.74

00:37:38.000 I once said, impeach the Queen. 0.98

00:37:39.000 And I had a whole article written about Tim Pool, journalist calls for the impeachment of Queen Elizabeth before she passed.

00:37:45.000 And I'm just like, what?

00:37:47.000 It was a joke.

00:37:48.000 I can't believe they didn't impeach her.

00:37:50.000 But they're like, he's the queen.

00:37:52.000 Posthumously.

00:37:54.000 No, she was alive at the time.

00:37:55.000 Posthumously.

00:37:56.000 I don't even remember why I said to impeach her, like she had something had happened.

00:37:59.000 I guess she was not woke enough.

00:38:01.000 I don't have no idea.

00:38:03.000 But yeah, a lot of these people on social media, they just say utter nonsense to get followers.

00:38:09.000 That's a good observation.

00:38:10.000 You were saying that people will retweet or repost the cringe stuff because it's so bad.

00:38:15.000 You're like, hey everyone, I want you to see how horrible this is so you know what you're up against.

00:38:19.000 But I see it and it's like...

00:38:21.000 I just feel like you're that guy talking to me when you repost him.

00:38:24.000 So, like, I have to unfollow people when they repost trash content to make fun of it. 0.53

00:38:28.000 I don't want that trash content in my life.

00:38:31.000 I understand the mentality of, like... Yeah, and then you're also, like, you're convincing yourself of, like, a caricature of the left that isn't true, and then you're not prepared, like, if you want to debate the left, you're not really prepared on what they actually believe.

00:38:44.000 And then, like, also in your everyday life, you might know, like, most of my friends and family members are, like, left-wing.

00:38:50.000 And so if I look at Harry Sisson and I'm like, oh, I can't.

00:38:54.000 But then if I get in a real conversation with my relatives, I'm going to be unprepared.

00:38:59.000 I'm going to be like, oh, they're actually a lot smarter and I should, you know.

00:39:02.000 It would be obviously better if everyone... I completely disagree.

00:39:04.000 I certainly think Harry Sisson is a caricature of liberals who is like, it's shot content.

00:39:10.000 But his understanding of reality is about on par with the average liberal voter.

00:39:15.000 They could not point to Ukraine on a map.

00:39:17.000 And there's varying degrees of this, but I gotta tell you, man, the key moment, a good example, is when we had Hunter Avalon on this show, and I said, in one example, that Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars, and he smugly said that never happened.

00:39:33.000 And then I played the video, and he was like, uh...

00:39:36.000 It's like, dude, I don't, I don't, I don't care for debate.

00:39:36.000 Whoops!

00:39:41.000 Like, in this idea that we're gonna stand on a stage and hit a buzzer and be like, well, I have an argument, and do different debate tactics. 1.00

00:39:47.000 That's stupid. 0.98

00:39:48.000 I care about, here are the things that I think. 1.00

00:39:50.000 Here's why I think them.

00:39:52.000 If you are wrong, I will say you're wrong, I'll pull something up.

00:39:55.000 If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll say, oh, I was wrong about that.

00:39:57.000 Right, I agree, but that's, that is a debate.

00:39:58.000 That's like the point of a debate.

00:39:59.000 But my point is, I have no concern or fear of debating a liberal on any of these issues.

00:40:04.000 At all.

00:40:04.000 And I don't think I know everything about these issues.

00:40:07.000 I, in fact, think I'm mostly wrong about them.

00:40:08.000 Because you're open to discovering the truth.

00:40:10.000 Because the deep state, the intelligence agencies, are not giving us the true and correct information about what's going on.

00:40:15.000 But what I can say is I've read substantially more about all of this than any of you.

00:40:20.000 And I do believe if you took an SD card and Neuralinked it, all the basic news coverage of Ukraine and Joe Biden into the head of the average liberal, they'd vote Donald Trump instantly.

00:40:34.000 It's just that they don't know, they don't want to know, they watch CNN, and that's about it.

00:40:40.000 Or MSNBC.

00:40:41.000 And they believe people like Rachel Maddow, who's nearly in tears when Donald Trump isn't indicted as a Russian spy.

00:40:48.000 They may not vote Trump, but they'll definitely not vote Biden.

00:40:51.000 They vote Trump.

00:40:52.000 I'm kind of that guy, I just... I'm not, I don't immediately go to the opposite party.

00:40:58.000 Or RFK.

00:40:58.000 If you downloaded all of the information on the Biden family, Ukraine and the war, the Obama administration, just all the news articles.

00:41:08.000 Hillary, all her emails.

00:41:09.000 Yeah, into their brains.

00:41:10.000 They would just be like, now I understand why everyone's voting Trump.

00:41:13.000 Full red pill.

00:41:14.000 Full red pill.

00:41:16.000 But if you go to a Trump supporter, and you were to download into their brains all of the news articles about Donald Trump, The thing is, most Trump supporters would be like, these are contradictions.

00:41:28.000 This is the point.

00:41:29.000 So my favorite two stories from Politico.

00:41:32.000 One, that the Democrats were, that Ukraine said that there were Democrats trying to interfere in the 2016 election or something to that effect.

00:41:41.000 Then you have several years later Politico reporting once again that in fact that was Russian disinformation, but never retracting or correcting their own reporting saying otherwise.

00:41:51.000 How can Politico run two stories, one making a claim and one saying that claim was Russian disinformation without correcting? 0.97

00:41:58.000 Because it's garbage nonsense.

00:42:00.000 Now, the fact that I know those two articles exist gives me some keen insight into what's really going on in the world, especially considering who the journalist was who wrote the second article. 0.92

00:42:08.000 You put those articles into the minds of the average person, and they're going to be like, something's not right here.

00:42:14.000 Trump supporters already know the news contradicts itself and lies all the time.

00:42:17.000 Many of these liberals just believe Rachel Maddow, and they think Fox News is lying.

00:42:22.000 Granted, not a big fan of Sean Hannity, you know, but Tucker Carlson was pretty good.

00:42:26.000 But they just read garbage from, like, the Daily Beast and then believe things that aren't true.

00:42:32.000 I remember when I got red-pilled.

00:42:34.000 It was the most depressing, probably the most depressing experience I've ever had in my life.

00:42:39.000 It was, like, near suicidal, like, the way I gave up on life when I was like, this really is all fake.

00:42:44.000 Not all, but, like, this whole American Dream thing is, like, fed to me on the backs of slaves, really.

00:42:50.000 Let me pull up this story from the Daily Beast.

00:42:52.000 This is a good example.

00:42:53.000 Joe Rogan says it's a fact that January 6th was a false flag, cites Ray Epps.

00:42:59.000 Now that's a misleading headline if I've ever seen one, but of course, that's the Daily Beast. 0.81

00:43:03.000 If you are someone who only consumes garbage nonsense like the Daily Beast, you might think Joe Rogan's this crazy Alex Jones guy.

00:43:11.000 However, fortunately for Joe Rogan, he's like one of the most famous people on the planet, and many of his fans know who he really is, so they smears, they don't go very far. 0.54

00:43:19.000 But let me read this for you.

00:43:21.000 They say wildly popular podcaster Joe Rogan once again pushed the baseless conspiracy theory that the January 6th Capitol insurrection was a false flag orchestrated by the federal government, adding that pro-Trump rioter Ray Epps clearly instigated the attack.

00:43:37.000 Now hold on there a minute.

00:43:39.000 Ray Epps is on camera.

00:43:41.000 The night before and the day of, telling people to go to the Capitol and go in the building.

00:43:46.000 He's then seen whispering in someone's ear, and he's on the front line as the people breach the Capitol grounds.

00:43:52.000 Curious.

00:43:53.000 They didn't go after him.

00:43:54.000 The feds didn't go after him.

00:43:55.000 He was protected by the media, defended by the media, and even now, they're trying to obfuscate what he did.

00:44:02.000 It's fascinating, isn't it?

00:44:03.000 Earlier this month, Epps sued Fox News for defaming him, this we know, and in that lawsuit, we're hearing that Epps may actually be facing criminal charges.

00:44:11.000 They go on to mention that Rogan's got a contract with Spotify, blah blah blah.

00:44:15.000 Rogan said the intelligence community had a vested interest in this going sideways, adding that if somebody wanted to disparage a political party, or to maybe have some sort of justification for getting some influential person like Trump offline, that would be the way they would do it.

00:44:27.000 And Joe Rogan is completely correct.

00:44:30.000 He was talking to Jim Gaffigan, who did not know ANYTHING about this, I gotta tell you.

00:44:35.000 When I listen to Joe Rogan talk to Jim Gaffigan, I'm a political guy.

00:44:40.000 I sit here, I read all this news, I am just like shaking wanting to talk to these guys.

00:44:46.000 You should get Gaffigan on the show for sure.

00:44:47.000 And be like, ask me any question and I will answer it and I will show you all the sources.

00:44:53.000 I will pull them up one at a time.

00:44:55.000 And you can, by all means, not believe the Guardian or NPR, the New York Times.

00:45:01.000 Just, you gotta have some standard.

00:45:02.000 Do you believe the Zelds or not? 0.98

00:45:03.000 Do you believe Politico or not?

00:45:05.000 Okay, well that's what we're basing this off of.

00:45:07.000 But Jim doesn't know anything.

00:45:08.000 He doesn't know anything about it.

00:45:09.000 So what did Joe Rogan really say?

00:45:11.000 He said they never went after Ray Epps.

00:45:13.000 He's seen on camera instigating this stuff.

00:45:15.000 Makes you wonder.

00:45:16.000 And now we know what he said was a fact is that there were guys there who were intelligence assets encouraging people or I should say some kind of government agent or law enforcement.

00:45:27.000 This is not controversial.

00:45:28.000 This is confirmed.

00:45:29.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 They're admitted to doing it, to going, let's go, let's go, hey, go, go, go, and pushing people towards the Capitol.

00:45:35.000 Oh, is that admitted?

00:45:35.000 That agents pushed people towards the Capitol?

00:45:38.000 There's body camera footage of people associated with law enforcement.

00:45:42.000 I have to pull this up, I'm going to be very careful here.

00:45:44.000 Because I want to make sure we're getting it right.

00:45:46.000 But they're saying things like, go, go, go.

00:45:48.000 When questioned, I think it was the FBI said, we cannot answer, were there people involved at all?

00:45:56.000 Yeah yeah they pled the fifth basically and I did see that clip and that and and Joe Rogan cited Epps and he cited you know the FBI director pleading the fifth but yeah it was like early on there was like very early on after Jan 6 there was a New York Times article and it was like Federal agent, you know, describes his experience on Jan 6.

00:46:16.000 So, um, it's long been acknowledged that there were federal agents in Jan 6.

00:46:20.000 I think the strongest, uh, argument for false flag there was the pipe bomb, which apparently they have footage of, like, the guy who put it there, and they apparently know where he lives, too.

00:46:32.000 They've, they've, like, I forget where I heard this, but they know his address, and yet they have not prosecuted him or explained whether it was a pipe bomb or not.

00:46:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:46:44.000 It doesn't look like they've investigated what that was.

00:46:46.000 Well, that's scandalous, because that guy's like number one.

00:46:48.000 Yeah, Thomas Massie has been posting about this, and that is, in my opinion, the most compelling evidence.

00:46:53.000 Because the bombs that were placed around the Capitol heightened the entire situation to such a level that you might be able to justify bringing in federal troops or detaining people without Without charge or trial.

00:47:05.000 Great point.

00:47:05.000 Jim Gaffigan makes a good question though.

00:47:06.000 He's like, why didn't Trump call anybody in?

00:47:08.000 Why didn't Trump just say, get law enforcement down there right now?

00:47:13.000 I think it's fair to say that Trump was bumbling quite a bit.

00:47:15.000 I don't think Trump had any intention on anyone going into the Capitol.

00:47:18.000 I think he genuinely had no idea what was going on.

00:47:20.000 And I don't mean that he didn't know there were people storming the Capitol on one side and going in the other.

00:47:24.000 I'm saying he did not comprehend the situation.

00:47:27.000 You've read, though, that apparently after his speech, he told Secret Service to drive him to the Capitol, and they said, no, we're taking you.

00:47:34.000 Pretty sure that was a fake story.

00:47:35.000 Oh, was that a fake story?

00:47:36.000 Because they claimed that Trump, like, attacked the driver.

00:47:38.000 Well, yeah, it was exaggerated that he attacked the driver, but what I gathered from that was like, if Trump did actually want to go to the Capitol and talk to these guys, it could have been a totally different outcome.

00:47:48.000 If Trump was there and he was like, hey guys, we want to do this peacefully as he was saying in his speech.

00:47:52.000 Trump was still speaking when they were breaching the Capitol grounds.

00:47:54.000 Right.

00:47:54.000 Oh, okay.

00:47:55.000 But either way, if he had gotten there, he could have ended it.

00:47:58.000 And so it's weird that Secret Service would say, no, we're not letting you go.

00:48:02.000 And it's weird that Trump couldn't override that with just a direct order also.

00:48:05.000 So, you know.

00:48:06.000 Yeah, I got personal criticisms.

00:48:08.000 I mean, I wasn't the president.

00:48:09.000 President did a hell of a job during COVID, man, but the way he didn't send in federal troops during the riots of 2020.

00:48:15.000 President did a hell of a job during COVID?

00:48:17.000 Well, no.

00:48:18.000 You think Operation Warp Speed was good?

00:48:20.000 No, I don't think he did a good job.

00:48:21.000 I mean, the president has a hell of a job during something like that, is what I mean. 0.96

00:48:26.000 So I can't talk too much shit about him and be like, well, if I was there, I would have this and that, because backseat driving, hindsight's 20-20. 0.97

00:48:32.000 But he didn't send in the troops. 0.98

00:48:34.000 Day one of the 2020 insurrections, whatever the hell these street riots that broke out after the George Floyd death. 0.99

00:48:40.000 I told Tim the next day, like, where are the fucking National Guard? 0.97

00:48:43.000 What are we waiting for? 0.99

00:48:45.000 This is going to spread out of control.

00:48:46.000 This is like a fire burning right now.

00:48:47.000 And it did.

00:48:48.000 Two days, three days later, two days later, the whole city's starting to get burned down.

00:48:52.000 And I'm like, where's the president of the United States?

00:48:54.000 The armed chief of our military commander, like, And I think he was so afraid of being called a fascist he didn't want to invoke, he didn't want to bring the troops in.

00:49:03.000 So where were the troops on January 6th?

00:49:05.000 I want to make sure we get this in the segment.

00:49:07.000 This is an article from WLOS.com.

00:49:09.000 An FBI informant embedded within the Proud Boys on January 6th, identified in the record only by the name Aaron, testified for the defense.

00:49:16.000 The witness said he was not aware of any plans by the Proud Boys to invade the U.S.

00:49:19.000 Capitol building.

00:49:19.000 So that's one simple example.

00:49:21.000 We then have this.

00:49:23.000 This is a filing, uh, this is, uh, defense writing.

00:49:26.000 The DOJ recently disclosed involvement of undercover officer informants from other agencies aside from the FBI and DC Metro Police.

00:49:32.000 At least 40 undercover informants.

00:49:34.000 So that was one of the big stories.

00:49:36.000 There was another, uh, there were another couple videos that came out.

00:49:39.000 And you guys should definitely fact check me on this one.

00:49:41.000 It is hard to do because most of the corporate press ignores this stuff.

00:49:44.000 But there were a few videos from law enforcement who were shouting things like, I think the video in question was, let's go, let's go, keep going, keep going, or something like that.

00:49:53.000 Well, that's fascinating, because if that's true, then that's kind of the crux of the whole false flag claim.

00:50:00.000 So if that's true, then Joe Rogan was in fact correct.

00:50:03.000 Well, no, no.

00:50:05.000 Joe Rogan asked whether or not the possibility of a false flag could be, and whether it made sense, and it certainly does make sense.

00:50:12.000 They used the insurrection thing for two years, just screaming non-stop over and over again on TV that it was an insurrection, and now the speculation is they'll try to use this to get Trump removed from the ballot.

00:50:25.000 So certainly there was a benefit to all of this.

00:50:27.000 They deleted Trump's tweets calling for peace.

00:50:30.000 They deleted Trump's Facebook posts where he was saying, I don't think they deleted, they suspended him.

00:50:35.000 Trump had said things like, everybody go home, we respect law enforcement.

00:50:38.000 They shuffled that away and then claimed he was calling for violence.

00:50:43.000 I'm uh you know if you're a commander and you've got a your capital is under siege by its own civilians like and they're they're starting a riot or they're starting a thing like you've got a few options you know you can bring out the guns and try and turn them down that you can ask beg them to stop which doesn't really work against large crowds or you can insert Active duty officers into the crowd to break it up. 0.86

00:51:03.000 Agent provocateurs.

00:51:04.000 Yeah, agents to break it up from inside.

00:51:06.000 That's probably the smartest method.

00:51:07.000 Joe Rogan points out the WTO protests in Seattle.

00:51:10.000 They called it the Battle for Seattle.

00:51:11.000 They had agent provocateurs there.

00:51:14.000 We've seen videos.

00:51:15.000 There's a lot of speculation all the time about agent provocateurs.

00:51:18.000 There was one story in Canada where protesters had military-style boots, started acting violently.

00:51:23.000 The left has argued this for a long time.

00:51:25.000 They conveniently forget the possibility when it comes to the right.

00:51:28.000 Why?

00:51:28.000 They're happy it happened.

00:51:30.000 You had the Gravel Institute tweeting in support of January 6th, except for the fact that it was right-wing.

00:51:36.000 They actually tweeted that it was good what happened, it was just bad that it was conservatives or right-wingers that were doing it.

00:51:41.000 They like it.

00:51:42.000 When it comes to agent provocateurs, the left will tell you to your face the government stages fake activists to incite violence for the purpose of discrediting protest movements.

00:51:52.000 And then when the right is protesting, the left says, I have no idea what you're talking about.

00:51:57.000 And here you are.

00:51:58.000 Yeah.

00:51:59.000 You can make the same argument for election fraud as well.

00:52:02.000 Yep.

00:52:03.000 Yeah, we need people to stand up for the rights of other, the people you don't agree with.

00:52:07.000 Like if you see, maybe it's a big ask, but if you see your political opponents under duress and they're being treated poorly or illegally, you've got to stand up for those people.

00:52:15.000 Yeah, you need to stand on principle as opposed to partisan.

00:52:17.000 To a certain degree.

00:52:18.000 To a certain degree.

00:52:20.000 There is no history, there's no evidence of that happening from, really from either side, but definitely from the Democrats for the past 15, 20 years.

00:52:29.000 And that's why I say to a certain degree, because perhaps when the country is unified, but there's partisan bickering, you get angry when the DOJ is weaponized against a political group.

00:52:41.000 You say, hey guys, you can't do that.

00:52:43.000 Unfortunately, right now, we're in something substantially deeper than that.

00:52:47.000 And now the question is, when they're trying to destroy you, do you provide them with your support?

00:52:55.000 Yes, first time in my life I've ever been in a situation like where they were in the 50s where they were really afraid the communists were going to take over the country.

00:53:01.000 So they were like, was it J. Edgar Hoover's blacklist or whatever?

00:53:04.000 He'd like start blacklisting all these people that had communist ties and people were losing their jobs and their careers.

00:53:09.000 And like, maybe if they hadn't done that, we would have become a communist nation.

00:53:12.000 So I don't know.

00:53:13.000 Do you know that communists are excluded from the Civil Rights Act?

00:53:17.000 Yeah.

00:53:18.000 Yeah, I think I did know that.

00:53:19.000 This is still true to this day, and I got questions about the legal merits of- it's in the law.

00:53:25.000 And it's not- I do not believe it's been adjudicated, so I wonder what would happen if you were just like, no communists allowed.

00:53:31.000 This is just- this is like- I don't have any kind of evidence, it's just my impression, but in the 50s and the Red Scare and stuff, and I really need to go and do more reading about what it was actually like, but it really seemed like the people that were really opposed to communism in the 50s and 60s, it seemed like they really understood that the left, that the international left, has a fundamental different understanding of the world.

00:54:01.000 I was listening to this book called, this audio book called Explaining Postmodernism

00:54:05.000 by Stephen Hicks.

00:54:06.000 And one of the things that he talks about is the way that the left doesn't have the

00:54:11.000 same kind of foundation that the right does.

00:54:15.000 And it's about, you know, liberalism versus authoritarianism.

00:54:18.000 And you're not going to be able to find common ground with people that have a fundamental

00:54:23.000 different understanding of what the truth is or what reality is.

00:54:28.000 And if there is no truth, then it's fine to use ad hominems and call everybody Nazis and stuff.

00:54:34.000 And we're seeing the effects of that now.

00:54:38.000 20 or 30 years to the 30 or 40 years now actually the left is called everybody on the right a Nazi and every president's a Nazi and always goes to the absolute worst where you know there's a lot of people in America now that aren't Unfortunately, that are not so afraid of the word of being called a racist anymore.

00:54:59.000 You know, they're just like, well, you call everybody that, you call everybody Nazi, you call everybody, so it doesn't matter.

00:55:04.000 And that's something that we have to deal with.

00:55:07.000 And I don't see how we can deal with the struggles that we're having as a country if we can't even agree on what the philosophy that the United States is founded on.

00:55:21.000 But hold on, but hold on, because you're giving credit to the people in the 1950s and you're kind of saying, well, they were actually good intention and they were actually against communists and pro-freedom.

00:55:29.000 I'm only saying that maybe they understood better than the average person now.

00:55:31.000 I'm not trying to give them undue credit.

00:55:33.000 But then you talk about the difference in ideology, which is one is collectivism, one is individualism.

00:55:37.000 And I agree, I'm a big individualist.

00:55:39.000 But when you go on this like Red Scare campaign, you're immediately dissolving one of the crucial things of individualism, which is like, One of the flaws or one of the greatest challenges that liberalism has is liberalism accepts the arguments of opposing viewpoints as if they are coming from liberals, right?

00:56:01.000 So if you enter the disagreement expecting the person you're having a debate with to be honest, But they were not going to be honest.

00:56:10.000 You can never come out.

00:56:12.000 You can never have a fair exchange.

00:56:15.000 So that's one of the things that liberals have to figure out how to deal with.

00:56:18.000 And that's why that's why liberals and that's why the communists say liberals always choose fascists over communists because the only way that you can fight authoritarians is with authoritarianism.

00:56:30.000 Right, but then you become, like, the monster you're trying to fight.

00:56:33.000 Like, it's what Tim said with, like, the original, uh, purpose of, like, these international bodies, and then the grandchildren just forget what the purpose was.

00:56:39.000 Like, look at what the FBI is now.

00:56:41.000 Look at what the CIA is now.

00:56:42.000 Well, yeah, but to be fair... Like, how could you say that, um... They were always that way.

00:56:46.000 Yeah, and if you look at J. Edgar Hoover, they were always that way, so I just don't think there's any credence to this argument of like, we need to embrace authoritarianism to get rid of communism.

00:56:54.000 No, I didn't say that we need to embrace it, but I'm saying that the current problem that we have is that liberalism doesn't have It doesn't have a mechanism to deal with dishonesty, but it does, though, and it's only supporting liberalism and not supporting other ideologies. 0.96

00:57:15.000 Fair enough, but the problem that we're experiencing now is authoritarians lie to liberals, shit libs, bad liberals. 0.98

00:57:24.000 They lie to shit libs and shit libs believe them because what the authoritarians are telling the liberals sounds good. 0.99

00:57:31.000 But the tool then is education, and it's very difficult, obviously, especially with echo chambers, but to me that's the only viable tool. 0.99

00:57:39.000 And that was another Jefferson quote, something about educating the masses is like how to secure liberty.

00:57:42.000 A lot of that's with tone, because the data itself doesn't convince people that you can do it with a good tone.

00:57:47.000 And another shout out to Dave Smith, because I think he does that extremely well.

00:57:51.000 Yeah, he is so good at that.

00:57:52.000 Let's jump to this war story.

00:57:53.000 My girlfriend who's super apolitical loves him.

00:57:55.000 He's so funny.

00:57:56.000 Let's jump to the story from NPR.

00:57:57.000 We love NPR, guys.

00:57:59.000 A drone attack on Moscow briefly shut one of its airports, an injured one.

00:58:03.000 Take a look at this photo.

00:58:04.000 There was a video I played earlier, we don't have it pulled up right now, where it's a guy driving down the highway and he's just filming this destruction on this building.

00:58:11.000 And it is terrifying stuff.

00:58:13.000 They say Russian authorities say three Ukrainian drones attacked Moscow in the early hours on Sunday.

00:58:18.000 Injuring one person and prompting a temporary closure for traffic of one of four airports around the Russian capital was the fourth such attempt at a strike on the capital region this month.

00:58:27.000 Now, I saw some people on Twitter claim this was a secret government office that was protected by Russian security forces.

00:58:35.000 Perhaps that makes sense.

00:58:37.000 I don't know why else they would strike the target.

00:58:38.000 They're going to go after military targets.

00:58:41.000 But this is now escalation of warfare into civilian capitals, into Moscow.

00:58:48.000 This is... I think there's... we're starting to see, um...

00:58:53.000 A real case for this expanding well beyond just a Ukrainian conflict, it's already now in Russia, and where else could it go next as it's spreading?

00:59:03.000 There was a news report that a Russian strike was 600 feet from the Romanian border, which could theoretically launch this thing just dramatically out of control.

00:59:13.000 And is Romania a NATO country?

00:59:16.000 I don't know about Romania.

00:59:17.000 I don't know.

00:59:18.000 Let's find out.

00:59:19.000 Well, so I will say, so I was at State Department today and Serge, it's not on Grayzone yet,

00:59:22.000 but you can maybe bring it up on the State Department's YouTube channel.

00:59:26.000 I asked him about this drone strike and Tim, to your point of light.

00:59:29.000 Romania is.

00:59:31.000 As of tomorrow, Romania is in NATO.

00:59:33.000 Oh, really?

00:59:34.000 No, as of 2004.

00:59:35.000 August 1st, 2023?

00:59:37.000 Are you sure?

00:59:38.000 It says 2004, post-Cold War enlargement.

00:59:41.000 It says alphabetical list of NATO member countries and it says Romania 2004.

00:59:45.000 Maybe this is a typo.

00:59:46.000 That's weird.

00:59:47.000 Oh, no, no, it's saying that as of tomorrow, Rumi is a NATO member.

00:59:51.000 But it has been since 04.

00:59:52.000 Sorry to interrupt, Liam.

00:59:53.000 Oh, no worries.

00:59:55.000 So yeah, I asked the State Department about this.

00:59:56.000 And to your point of like, did Ukraine do this?

00:59:59.000 I mean, it was fairly obvious.

01:00:00.000 So like an hour after this drone blows up.

01:00:05.000 Zelensky made a statement and he says, quote, "...gradually the war is returning to the territory of Russia, to its symbolic centers and military bases, and this is an inevitable, natural and absolutely fair process."

01:00:18.000 So Zelensky said that and he's explicitly said, we're targeting symbolic centers.

01:00:23.000 Um, which, to me, I could only mean, you know, areas where civilians gather, so it sounds like we're targeting civilians, and I asked the State Department this, and, um, he basically said, well, I don't know if that's what symbolic centers means, and then he brushed it off and wouldn't let me get a follow-up in, but, um, to me, when you make a speech like that an hour after the explosion happens, that kind of looks like you're taking credit for it.

01:00:45.000 Um, and so it's extremely scary.

01:00:48.000 I mean, and it's crazy that the U.S., I mean, we keep, like, U.S.

01:00:52.000 officials keep saying, like, well, we don't support attack, we don't support attacks on Russia's border.

01:00:57.000 Well, it's like, well, you keep funding them and arming them to do it.

01:01:00.000 So at what point are you gonna, like, you know, enforce your, um, lack of support for attacking Russia's border?

01:01:08.000 And, um, you know, it's just scary.

01:01:10.000 I mean, this war keeps going every day.

01:01:11.000 We've got U.S.

01:01:12.000 civilians on the ground in Ukraine.

01:01:14.000 And the U.S.

01:01:14.000 providing weapons, which end up in the hands of many of these people.

01:01:18.000 Like, Russia knows full well what's going on.

01:01:21.000 When it comes to this strike on Russian targets, Russia's not going, oh, those Ukrainians are at it again. 1.00

01:01:25.000 They're saying, NATO just attacked our capital.

01:01:29.000 So this seems like the only path forward is going to be escalation.

01:01:34.000 Could be a false flag.

01:01:36.000 Could be Russian drones doing it to themselves.

01:01:37.000 Doesn't matter.

01:01:38.000 Either way, the same thing happens.

01:01:39.000 If it's a false flag, then Russia wants to escalate, and it's even worse.

01:01:42.000 But if it was a false flag, why would Zelensky come out an hour later and basically be like, hey, we're going after symbolic centers?

01:01:47.000 I guess you'd be like, if you were the commander and then some random elements within your country bombed some random elements within the enemy country, you'd be like, see, there you go.

01:01:57.000 American greatness is what we do.

01:01:58.000 Yes, let me bring you back to the era of piracy where there would be privateers and corsairs who would receive letters of marque from their government to disrupt the enemy's supply lines.

01:02:08.000 And then let's say it was the English and the French.

01:02:10.000 The French would capture a pirate ship running black sails or whatever, a black flag, and then these guys are clearly British, they'd go to the Crown and say, we know that you are ransacking our trade lines, and say, oh, how dare you! 0.63

01:02:22.000 We would never condone piracy!

01:02:23.000 Oh, oh, oh, I am offended!

01:02:26.000 That's what they do.

01:02:28.000 So, what's going on right now?

01:02:30.000 It is the most... annoying thing ever, when these officers are like, the US is not involved in war, those are volunteers! 0.97

01:02:36.000 I'm like, shut up.

01:02:38.000 It's effectively the same thing. 0.98

01:02:40.000 No one's stu... Like, you can believe whatever you want to believe so that you can sleep at night.

01:02:46.000 But I assure you, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Millie, whoever it may be, is under no illusion that we are not involved in this.

01:02:53.000 They know exactly what they're funding.

01:02:55.000 And Russia is the exact same. 0.89

01:02:56.000 In the Vietnam War, it was the Americans versus the Russians, basically.

01:03:00.000 Right.

01:03:00.000 Versus the Russians and the Chinese, maybe.

01:03:02.000 But somehow, we just never came to blows with Russia. 0.90

01:03:04.000 We never even talked about it as if it was...

01:03:06.000 Against Russia. 0.57

01:03:07.000 We did, we called it proxy war.

01:03:08.000 Yeah, they were funding the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese.

01:03:11.000 U.S.

01:03:11.000 Middle Eastern involvement was proxy war.

01:03:13.000 Against, very much so, Russia. 0.70

01:03:16.000 And to a certain degree, Chinese interests.

01:03:17.000 Funding the Mujahideen, yeah, that was a proxy war.

01:03:18.000 Yeah, against the Soviets.

01:03:20.000 And that's what Syria is, our support for the rebel groups.

01:03:24.000 Syria would not side with us because they're allied with Russia. 0.76

01:03:28.000 So, of course, anyone in government aligned with Russia, we opposed.

01:03:33.000 How convenient.

01:03:33.000 I'm like, did ISIS, were they funded by the Russians?

01:03:36.000 CIA.

01:03:38.000 Like, you would think if the Russians were really our enemies, they would have been funding ISIS.

01:03:42.000 But I cannot remember that happening at all.

01:03:44.000 This is why they were happy when Trump decimated ISIS.

01:03:47.000 When Trump started taking them out, Putin's like, this is good. 1.00

01:03:50.000 Yeah.

01:03:51.000 It was good for both.

01:03:52.000 And then they claimed that the reason Putin didn't invade Ukraine was because Donald Trump was catering to Putin's interests.

01:03:59.000 And I'm like, yeah.

01:04:01.000 Destroying ISIS?

01:04:03.000 Not getting us involved in wars?

01:04:05.000 Wow, it's almost like he was dealing with the American people.

01:04:07.000 Yeah, and he armed Ukraine with a bunch of weapons too, which is obviously not in Russia's interest.

01:04:13.000 There was also a tweet on this explosion.

01:04:15.000 This account tweets it out and they're like, oh my god, drones hitting Moscow, how unfortunate, and then like a little sunglasses emoji meaning like, you know, we like this.

01:04:22.000 And then the General Michael Hayden, who's the former director of the CIA and NSA, tweets out, oh, it's an act of God, like about this explosion.

01:04:33.000 You can watch the video.

01:04:33.000 There's like this woman who's screaming she's in terror.

01:04:36.000 It's like a horrible video to watch.

01:04:38.000 And the former director of the CIA and NSA is like celebrating this on Twitter.

01:04:42.000 It is insane.

01:04:43.000 Of course.

01:04:45.000 It's like that shark attack where there was the shark attack and people were like happy because some Russian dude got eaten by a shark. 0.94

01:04:49.000 Oh my gosh.

01:04:50.000 Who has nothing to do with the war? 0.79

01:04:51.000 It's like, people who don't realize that it's the government's perpetrating these wars, and like, you know, most of these soldiers are conscripted anyways, it's like, you should be mad at the government.

01:05:02.000 Even if you, you know, believe the whole narrative around Ukraine, you should be mad at Putin and the government.

01:05:09.000 You don't celebrate, like, civilians getting bombed in Moscow.

01:05:13.000 What do you think is a just solution to the war?

01:05:18.000 I mean, I think the war could have been avoided in the first place by giving up or holding referendums in which, by the way, Zelensky campaigned on this.

01:05:29.000 He campaigned on holding referendums in the Donbas in Crimea because there was like a decade-long civil war in the Donbas and, of course, Russia basically controls Crimea.

01:05:38.000 And, and this civil war was awful.

01:05:41.000 And so, and Poroshenko's, um, by the end of, like, by Zelensky, when he was campaigning in 2019, Poroshenko's approval rating was so low because of this war.

01:05:50.000 It was like people didn't, people didn't want to fight this war.

01:05:52.000 And, and that's why also the Azov battalion, which is kind of the, the neo-Nazi sect, um, grew, you know, so much stronger.

01:05:59.000 It's because people didn't, the only people who wanted to fight were those guys.

01:06:02.000 But so, Zelensky campaigns and he's like, I'm gonna hold referendums in the Donbas, I'm gonna let them decide whether they want autonomy, whether they want to secede or be in Ukraine.

01:06:09.000 And he wins overwhelmingly, he wins like 75% of the vote.

01:06:12.000 And in the East, everyone voted for him in the general election.

01:06:16.000 Then he gets in, And he doesn't do it.

01:06:19.000 He seemed open to it.

01:06:20.000 You can actually look, there's like old, there's like Biden 2021 White House statements where Biden is like saying like, no, no, Crimea is Ukraine.

01:06:27.000 We're going to stick to this.

01:06:28.000 And Zelensky earlier had been like, well, I'm still open to referendums there.

01:06:30.000 But then Biden makes, gets involved and is like, no, no, Crimea is Ukraine.

01:06:35.000 Boris Johnson was sent in and crushed a peace agreement.

01:06:37.000 Yeah, that was after the war, but so in terms of like a peace agreement could have been just hold referendums in the Donbas in Crimea.

01:06:46.000 Crimea overwhelmingly, even by like U.S.

01:06:48.000 government conducted polls in 2014, Crimea overwhelmingly wants to join Russia.

01:06:53.000 The Donbas, it's not clear whether they want to join or secede or want more like just governing autonomy from Kiev.

01:07:00.000 Just hold those referendums and see what happens.

01:07:03.000 That was Putin's demand before he invaded.

01:07:07.000 And you could have just granted that and people say like, well, you can't do that because then he'll just be even closer and he'll keep going.

01:07:12.000 But it's like, take the chance on it then at least.

01:07:14.000 Or like, negotiate some, I don't know, negotiate something better.

01:07:18.000 But like, the idea that this counterfactual is like, well, Putin would have gone even further.

01:07:24.000 It's like, well, guess what?

01:07:26.000 Hundreds of thousands have died, Ukraine is destroyed, and millions are now refugees because of that counterfactual that you're so sure of. 1.00

01:07:34.000 We could have held these referendums and we potentially could have avoided the entire war.

01:07:39.000 And we still could.

01:07:40.000 We still could do that now.

01:07:41.000 I think if Donald Trump gets elected, the day they call it for Trump, the hour, the minute, the war stops.

01:07:48.000 Yeah, I mean, I think he would probably do maybe some form of what I just said.

01:07:52.000 I don't know what exactly he would do.

01:07:52.000 No, I just think the moment they say, and the winner of the 2024 presidential election is projected to be Donald Trump, Russia immediately says ceasefire.

01:08:00.000 And Zelensky, too, would be like, finally, the dogs are off my back.

01:08:02.000 I can do what I want with my country.

01:08:04.000 I think some of the dogs on his back are kind of the far-right guys within his own government.

01:08:09.000 But Putin stops right away because he wants more leverage.

01:08:13.000 So Putin is probably going to be saying, Trump's going to come in, he's going to end this, we're not going to get everything we want, we'll get enough of what we want, but if we're still fighting, we'll gain more leverage by stopping the fighting right now.

01:08:25.000 Then, you know, brushing up to Trump's ego and being like, we knew that as soon as you got in, you were going to be reasonable and help us end this conflict, so we pulled our troops back.

01:08:34.000 Trump's going to be like, absolutely, here's what I expect.

01:08:37.000 It's over.

01:08:38.000 I mean, I think that's true of not only Trump, but I think that's true of RFK and Vivek as well.

01:08:42.000 Um, agreed.

01:08:43.000 Um, but I, I also think like Trump winning is just a massive fantasy.

01:08:49.000 I mean, I think, um, we, I, I can't recite like the whole history.

01:08:54.000 I know, I know a couple of interesting facts about the whole JFK assassination.

01:08:57.000 And to me, it's overwhelming that the CIA killed him.

01:09:01.000 So, you know, Donald Trump won in 2016.

01:09:03.000 Well, he won, and then, you know, the intelligence agencies... well, I guess Hillary and her team fabricated the dossier, and then this kind of... They tied stones to Trump's feet?

01:09:17.000 Exactly.

01:09:18.000 But do you really think he's going to be allowed in with, like, the stated goal of, like, getting revenge at the deep state?

01:09:24.000 Or do you think they might just pull the trigger at some point?

01:09:27.000 Well, I don't know about any of that.

01:09:28.000 I mean, RFK's talked about the risk, you know, based on his family history.

01:09:32.000 So perhaps, and there's been other people who have speculated, horrifying things may happen, but look, I believe that if Donald Trump is harmed, this country implodes overnight.

01:09:44.000 I mean, it's chaos beyond chaos.

01:09:47.000 If something happens to Trump in that capacity, not an option.

01:09:51.000 Well, I think what's terrifying about this is the left would believe it.

01:09:54.000 The left would be like, yeah, people hate Trump.

01:09:56.000 No, but that's why you're so correct.

01:09:58.000 The left would believe it.

01:09:59.000 They'd be like, yeah, everyone hates Trump. 0.99

01:10:00.000 Of course, someone would assassinate him.

01:10:01.000 But the right is going to be like, no, he was the governor.

01:10:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:05.000 And then the right, that's going to cause chaos.

01:10:07.000 So you have to ask yourself, why the United States has not, say, assassinated Julian Assange?

01:10:13.000 When Hillary Clinton reportedly said, can't we just drone this guy?

01:10:15.000 And they're like, yeah, he's in London.

01:10:16.000 Right?

01:10:17.000 Why?

01:10:19.000 Certain people, they got no problem with.

01:10:21.000 Maybe it's a 16-year-old American citizen.

01:10:23.000 Barack Obama's like, we're gonna blow him up! 0.99

01:10:24.000 Because his dad's a terrorist. 0.98

01:10:25.000 So they kill Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki in a civilian restaurant in a country we're not at war with. 0.94

01:10:29.000 Trump killed his son, though, too. 0.82

01:10:31.000 Trump killed... Or his... His daughter. 0.99

01:10:33.000 His daughter. 1.00

01:10:34.000 Now, see... Hypothetically?

01:10:36.000 I don't know.

01:10:37.000 That is a claim made by the family, whereas the drone strike on a civilian restaurant is confirmed by the U.S.

01:10:44.000 And another thing, it's one thing to kill Catch a round in a gunfight and it's another thing to have someone shoot a missile at you.

01:10:44.000 government.

01:10:53.000 But investigate Trump.

01:10:55.000 Yeah, fine, I don't care.

01:10:56.000 If this is collateral damage and an American girl died, he's responsible for that. 0.73

01:11:00.000 Presidents shouldn't be allowed to get away with this stuff, especially when we're not at war with this country.

01:11:03.000 But, uh, but, fair point, right.

01:11:05.000 You know, Barack Obama was like, blow him up!

01:11:07.000 Whoops. 0.98

01:11:08.000 Yeah, I mean, Barack Obama had his actual kill list, like, list of people he was gonna shoot.

01:11:13.000 But, they claimed they were targeting a different guy, and he was an act, it was a, whoops, we got the wrong guy, but, you know.

01:11:19.000 Convenient, whoops.

01:11:20.000 But yeah, yeah, you know, so, I don't, I think, If something happens to Donald Trump, this country gets ripped apart in two seconds.

01:11:28.000 And the reason why they don't go after people like Julian Assange is because they don't want to make martyrs.

01:11:32.000 You will make that man immortal and only in his best features.

01:11:36.000 Yeah, I feel like there'll be some behind the scenes shenanigans to keep him out of office before an assassination for that same reason.

01:11:42.000 He's too powerful metaphorically for that.

01:11:45.000 I agree with that.

01:11:46.000 I'm just saying, if there's a chance he's gonna get into office, they'll pull Clinton.

01:11:51.000 What I find fascinating is that Roseanne says there's not gonna be an election.

01:11:56.000 And I had to ask her to clarify, because Michael Mao said, of course there will be.

01:12:00.000 But I think it's probably a mix of the two perspectives.

01:12:03.000 There'll be an election, but no one will care.

01:12:06.000 No one will accept it.

01:12:08.000 No one.

01:12:09.000 You think 2020 was bad?

01:12:10.000 2024 is going to...

01:12:13.000 It's just going to be nuts.

01:12:14.000 It's going to be bad.

01:12:15.000 Because now, after 2020, you're going to have every single Trump supporter filming everything.

01:12:21.000 You are going to have a hundred times as many videos coming out showing weird things that may be innocuous, may be nothing, or may be suspicious.

01:12:30.000 And no matter who wins or who loses, the other side will refuse.

01:12:34.000 We saw the Boston Globe story where powerful Democrats suggested the West Coast secede from the Union in the event Donald Trump gets elected. 0.84

01:12:41.000 That's how crazy they are.

01:12:42.000 Now what do you think happens if Trump loses again?

01:12:46.000 This time, there's going to be people everywhere filming literally everything.

01:12:50.000 I thought 2020 was going to be more chaotic than it was.

01:12:54.000 Maybe I'm wrong about 2024.

01:12:56.000 But I just don't see anyone accepting the results.

01:13:01.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, I'll settle for making it to 2024 and as long as, you know, we do not blow up the world in Ukraine or over Taiwan if that ever happens.

01:13:10.000 So let me let me pull up this story from the Daily Mail.

01:13:11.000 Check this one out.

01:13:12.000 JFK director Oliver Stone says he made a mistake voting for Joe Biden in 2020 because he fears president will start World War Three with his support for Ukraine.

01:13:22.000 There you go.

01:13:23.000 He said, quote, if we don't stop this, what Biden is doing, this guy, I voted for him.

01:13:26.000 I made a mistake.

01:13:27.000 I was thinking he was an old man now and that he would calm down, that he would be more mellow and so forth.

01:13:32.000 I didn't see that at all.

01:13:33.000 I see a man who maybe is not in charge of his own administration.

01:13:36.000 Who knows? 0.93

01:13:37.000 It seems that he's dragging us stupidly into a confrontation with a power that is not going to give. 0.98

01:13:42.000 This is their borders. 0.98

01:13:43.000 This is their world.

01:13:44.000 This is NATO going into Ukraine.

01:13:46.000 This is their whole other story.

01:13:48.000 He's right.

01:13:50.000 Imagine what would happen if China went into Mexico and took large portions of its government to start putting troops and sending weapons.

01:13:57.000 The U.S.

01:13:58.000 would go nuts!

01:13:58.000 I just saw, no, the U.S.

01:14:00.000 wouldn't because there's literally, I just saw a tweet by someone that was talking about Chinese police stations here in the U.S.

01:14:10.000 policing the Chinese people.

01:14:11.000 Biolabs. 1.00

01:14:12.000 Yeah, biolabs and stuff here in the U.S.

01:14:14.000 I don't think that the American people I really think that as much as there are people that complain a lot on the internet and stuff, I really think that Americans are way too comfortable to get really, really buck wild in like some kind of revolutionary way.

01:14:31.000 They'll get out in the streets and they'll, you know, throw rocks and stuff and throw Molotovs and try and get into fights with the police, but that's only the most mentally Questionable or at risk if you want to call them that people that the average peep your average person has even the people that have it bad have it better than most humans in human history.

01:14:56.000 I just don't see the revolutionary energy that What's your point, though, with China?

01:15:00.000 You just mean, like, the fact that people are not angry about that?

01:15:02.000 Yeah, there's Chinese, you know, there's talking about building a Chinese listening post in Cuba.

01:15:08.000 There's actual Chinese, I guess, government police that are policing Chinese, former Chinese citizens or whatever.

01:15:18.000 And the biolab thing just came out with COVID, mice, and HIV.

01:15:22.000 And China's done the same thing in Canada.

01:15:24.000 They violated, if the United States actually took the Monroe Doctrine seriously anymore, there would be at least some type of retaliation between all this stuff that we talked about, that we've mentioned in the past five minutes or whatever, and the spy balloon that went over and stuff.

01:15:43.000 I understand that most libertarians are like, you know, we shouldn't be looking for problems with other countries, and I agree.

01:15:51.000 When you got a country sending a police force into your borders and policing citizens of your country from a foreign country, I get it that you're anti-war libertarians, but hey, at some point, the actual sovereignty of your country matters.

01:16:10.000 even if you have open borders. Well, so I agree. And I get like, we should be

01:16:14.000 moderately upset about those things. But I think on this on the scale of like, I agree there's no

01:16:18.000 revolutionary energy, but like I'm way more concerned about like this war we're talking

01:16:22.000 about, what Roger Stone's talking about, about blowing up the world. Like if there's a Chinese 1.00

01:16:25.000 police station in my local city, that is pretty weird and concerning. But I'm much more concerned

01:16:33.000 with like my president potentially being blackmailed by Ukraine and then therefore

01:16:37.000 looping me into a nuclear war that could literally kill me one day.

01:16:42.000 That's where the revolutionary energy needs to be focused, and I agree there's a lack of it.

01:16:46.000 It could simply be blackmail.

01:16:48.000 That Hunter Biden's on the board of Arisma, Devin Archer calls DC, says we want the prosecutor fired, the elites, the oligarchs, the people in Ukraine know exactly what Joe Biden did, and then they call him up and say, we're gonna spill the beans unless you give us what we want.

01:17:05.000 Yeah, no, I've, like, gamed that out in my head as well.

01:17:09.000 I think it could exactly be that, and it's just crazy.

01:17:12.000 And, you know, we should all come together as a country and just say, Joe, whatever they got on you, it's totally fine.

01:17:18.000 We're not gonna judge.

01:17:19.000 Let the blackmail come out. 0.93

01:17:22.000 I'd much rather see a naked photo of Joe.

01:17:24.000 It's not that.

01:17:26.000 It's gonna be evidence.

01:17:27.000 It's gonna be felonies.

01:17:28.000 Right, no, I know, I was gonna say with a kid, I was gonna say like a naked photo of him with a kid, but like, just let that come out and just end the war, man, it's more important. 0.77

01:17:37.000 Support pardoning Joe Biden?

01:17:39.000 To end the war?

01:17:40.000 Yeah.

01:17:41.000 Or just in general, just even preemptively with no expectation of anything after, would you?

01:17:48.000 With just for no reason?

01:17:50.000 Assuming that there's gonna stuff is gonna come out later is why my reason would be but would you do it not with any expectation or like tit-for-tat just be like oh would I do it right now hoping like the war and hoping there is blackmail and hoping the war ends?

01:18:02.000 Or yeah, or for any reason.

01:18:03.000 Would you be willing to pardon?

01:18:04.000 Yes, I would.

01:18:04.000 Yes.

01:18:04.000 For any reason at all.

01:18:05.000 Yeah, I see what you're saying.

01:18:06.000 Yeah, I would do it for that reason.

01:18:08.000 But he's asking if you would straight pardon him for no reason.

01:18:11.000 Well, you're not really—I can't tell if you're saying no reason.

01:18:13.000 I mean, if there's no reason— I'm not as concerned with the reason.

01:18:15.000 I'm just asking if you would do it.

01:18:17.000 If you would just say you're pardoned.

01:18:18.000 There are reasons where I would do it, and that was one of them.

01:18:21.000 But if you have... I think of it as like 5D chess.

01:18:24.000 All these pardons that we gotta do, I see no other way forward.

01:18:27.000 If you have evidence of him doing something wrong, no.

01:18:29.000 You have a tribunal.

01:18:30.000 If we know for a fact that he was engaged in illicit activities, then he is criminally charged.

01:18:36.000 If you have no need to pardon him, if you have the pardoning power, you simply just indict him.

01:18:44.000 You could do that, indict, and then pardon him.

01:18:47.000 Why would you pardon him?

01:18:49.000 So that we don't have this tit-for-tat, so that then the next generation, they don't come back for you, Hunter's sister doesn't come back with guns abla- you know, you don't want to just keep the cycle moving.

01:18:57.000 Hunter's sister? 0.58

01:18:58.000 Yeah, whoever.

01:18:58.000 I wouldn't be worried about that, but yeah, I agree in terms of like- I don't agree with the idea that by allowing elite criminals to get away with their crimes, you actually stop the crime.

01:19:07.000 Well, what you do want to do is expose them and make the world know what they did, but then pardon them for it.

01:19:13.000 Yeah, if you expose them and the world knows what they did and then you pardon them, that is not going to disincentivize people from doing the same in the future.

01:19:21.000 I don't know if anything can disincentivize it.

01:19:23.000 Yeah, all the incentives are in their favor.

01:19:25.000 Guillotines.

01:19:27.000 Well, that didn't work well in the French Revolution, because, like, who's in control of the guillotine?

01:19:32.000 Like, who's deciding?

01:19:34.000 The guy who ultimately got his head cut off.

01:19:36.000 Yeah, Maurice Pierre.

01:19:37.000 That's right.

01:19:38.000 Not just him, but, you know.

01:19:40.000 There's the threat of force.

01:19:41.000 I mean, the threat of force is usually the go-to.

01:19:43.000 Like, how do you stop corrupt leaders from being corrupt?

01:19:45.000 If it's sedition, if it's treason, there's varying degrees of punishment.

01:19:50.000 But I think on some level you can like it's not all doesn't only have to be punishment and I guess Ian what you might be getting at is like you can appeal I imagine in theory like you can appeal to the humanity of these people like I know like you know Lindsey Graham to me does not seem like a guy who has much humanity in him.

01:20:07.000 Joe Biden I mean that hugely brazen corrupt kind of that mafia display is like is awful but like when you also listen to that clip of him.

01:20:16.000 Remember when that clip of him came out of like a voicemail on Hunter's phone and he's like, son, I love you.

01:20:21.000 You know, we'll get over this drug addiction or whatever.

01:20:22.000 To me, that sounded like a dad who loved his son.

01:20:26.000 So I think I think that's naive.

01:20:28.000 It's naive to think like I can use I can I can like tap into that humanity of Joe Biden's.

01:20:34.000 But I'm just saying it's there and he feels love for his son.

01:20:40.000 But yeah, and maybe there is some way to tap into that.

01:20:43.000 Like, I don't know if that's what you're getting at with the pardons, but... Pardons won't solve it.

01:20:48.000 So... I'm just saying I hope Joe Biden wakes up one day and says, like, God, you know, I do have these grandchildren and, like, I don't want to... Biden?

01:20:57.000 I don't want to blow up the war.

01:20:58.000 What?

01:20:59.000 I don't want to blow up the world because I want my grandchildren to live a nice life.

01:21:02.000 I hope that deep down he's thinking something like that.

01:21:04.000 I'm not, you know, I'm not going to bank on it, but I'm hoping it's there, that sentiment. 0.84

01:21:08.000 No, I think he's more thinking, I will burn the world to the ground before I lose power.

01:21:13.000 You think Biden thinks that way?

01:21:14.000 I think he thinks to a certain degree that way.

01:21:16.000 I don't think he's the most ruthless guy ever. 0.99

01:21:18.000 He's a corrupt guy.

01:21:21.000 But these people tend to have an attitude. 0.92

01:21:24.000 Corrupt individuals are corrupt because their attitude is usually, the whole world will burn before I lose. 1.00

01:21:30.000 I don't know if he's that strong of an asshole. 1.00

01:21:32.000 But you've heard like the nobody fucks with a Biden hot mic quote from him? 1.00

01:21:36.000 No, when was that?

01:21:38.000 I forget.

01:21:38.000 I think it might have been at the DeSantis presser he had.

01:21:40.000 Do you guys really think he thinks that much at all?

01:21:43.000 Well that, yeah, I mean that's another... Just because he's old now doesn't mean he did not build his life and his family off of these ideas that he will take whatever he wants.

01:21:51.000 Right.

01:21:51.000 This is, look, you wonder why it is almost every, every politician is a bad person.

01:21:57.000 It's because good people don't have what it takes to manipulate everyone around them to gain political power.

01:22:03.000 Right, that's a good point.

01:22:04.000 And I do have that naive streak in me, because I gotta be honest.

01:22:07.000 So before I was into politics, like during the COVID era, I barely read the news at all.

01:22:12.000 And I liked Anthony Fauci.

01:22:15.000 I would watch the news and I was like, you know, I kind of like this guy.

01:22:17.000 I like his raspy voice.

01:22:18.000 He's kind of charismatic.

01:22:20.000 Disavow.

01:22:20.000 And recently I read The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert F. Kennedy.

01:22:27.000 And it was mind-blowing to see.

01:22:29.000 When you learn about everything, In that book, from the whole, like, AIDS pandemic and how, like, the chemo drug that they were prescribing was basically causing AIDS or making it way worse.

01:22:38.000 AZT, and him experimenting on orphans, like, killing hundreds of orphaned children and debilitating many more.

01:22:38.000 AZT.

01:22:46.000 When you realize that that guy can go on TV and, like, smooth talk the entire world, smooth talk, like, it's kind of what Tim is saying, and it's like, Jesus, like, that's a level of, like, psychopath that I can't even imagine. 0.70

01:23:01.000 Indeed.

01:23:02.000 Must you think like a psychopath to defeat the psychopath?

01:23:06.000 One thing that I want to say is you talk a lot about forgiveness and stuff like that, and I am so, like I said earlier, I'm so black-pilled about even being able to communicate with people.

01:23:20.000 It's such and I maybe it just struck me that like you're you're still looking for ways to find to expect good behavior from people or to offer people the option of behaving well and I just don't think that they're gonna.

01:23:39.000 Yeah, you know, I'm obsessed, not really obsessed, Ben Franklin is a big inspiration, and that guy always had like a twinkle in his eye and kind of a knowing smile, like we already won.

01:23:47.000 So he was like a diplomat to the enemy.

01:23:49.000 Ben Franklin did?

01:23:49.000 Yeah, Ben, he knew the whole time.

01:23:50.000 He was like the father of the rebellion, the father of the United States, essentially.

01:23:54.000 Everyone looked up to him, he was this old dude.

01:23:55.000 How do you know he had a twinkle in his eye?

01:23:57.000 Do people write that down?

01:23:58.000 In the pictures I've seen of him, and I think, maybe they do?

01:24:01.000 The paintings?

01:24:02.000 Yeah, the paintings and the stuff.

01:24:03.000 He's so jovial, and he's an inventor, he's brilliant, and like, He knew.

01:24:08.000 His morale was so high.

01:24:10.000 I think he just instilled the morale of a nation with his books and his communication style.

01:24:15.000 So hopefully, people can do that.

01:24:17.000 We gotta jump to this story.

01:24:19.000 We got this Twitter thread from Gonzalo Lira.

01:24:22.000 This is the guy who was arrested in Ukraine, who has just recently gotten out, and is tweeting that he is seeking to flee the country.

01:24:30.000 He says he was being tortured in jail when he was arrested.

01:24:34.000 So, correct me if I'm wrong, you know a lot about this, Liam.

01:24:36.000 He's an American citizen?

01:24:37.000 He's an American citizen.

01:24:37.000 Correct.

01:24:38.000 Coach Redpill, right?

01:24:39.000 Coach Redpill, yeah, yeah.

01:24:41.000 And Serge, if you bring up my pinned tweet, it's me asking the State Department about him in, I think it was, maybe like a month ago, or a couple months ago now.

01:24:51.000 Um, and yeah, I mean, so that was when I was at the Epoch Times.

01:24:56.000 Um, it didn't, the question didn't go over so smoothly at the Epoch Times.

01:25:00.000 I don't know, I don't know if I can get into that too much.

01:25:02.000 Well, let's go through this guy's Twitter thread.

01:25:04.000 He tweets, right now I'm about to, um, I'm about to try to get out of Ukraine and seek political asylum in Hungary.

01:25:09.000 And I will also add, this was from 6 23 p.m.

01:25:12.000 It's currently 9 24 p.m.

01:25:14.000 Eastern.

01:25:14.000 I'll check his Twitter to see if he successfully crossed.

01:25:17.000 He goes on to describe what happened to him, he says he broke no laws, he was accused of breaking no laws, he was just reporting on what was going on in Ukraine and it made Ukraine look bad, so they arrested him.

01:25:26.000 He says, my indictment explicitly states that all I did was discuss publicly known facts about the war, the epitome of free speech and a democracy, but Zelensky's Ukraine is no democracy, it's a thieving, corrupt, murderous, gangster regime pretending to be polite Western democracy. 0.86

01:25:40.000 He's right about that, and that's obvious because Ukraine has always been that, since the fall of the Soviet Union.

01:25:46.000 Once arrested, I was given documentation assuring me that I was guaranteed the right to contact my lawyers and loved ones.

01:25:53.000 In fact, I was blocked from calling anyone, even my lawyers, and I was not permitted to post bail.

01:25:58.000 He goes on to describe that he was tortured, and, uh, let me, let me, uh, once inside Caesar Prison, I was tortured in the two of the four cells I was in by the other prisoners.

01:26:07.000 Guards never beat prisoners, they outsource the torture.

01:26:10.000 One prisoner actually apologized to me, telling me he had no choice.

01:26:14.000 He wasn't lying, I understood.

01:26:16.000 I got a cracked rib in my first cell, but it wasn't too bad.

01:26:18.000 The worst stretch is my fourth cell.

01:26:20.000 He was gonna say that he was beaten for over 30 hours and sleep deprived.

01:26:25.000 The craziest thing about this, and this is pretty brutal, so you've been warned.

01:26:30.000 He says, at one point, two thugs held my head and used a toothpick to scratch the whites of my left eye while asking me if I could still read if I had just one.

01:26:40.000 Not gonna lie, that was unnerving.

01:26:43.000 He goes on to say, the U.S.

01:26:43.000 Embassy called me three times but gave me nothing but support, in quotes, empty bromides.

01:26:48.000 The guard told me to remove my shirt.

01:26:49.000 He had injury and bruising to his chest after being beaten.

01:26:53.000 Let's scroll down.

01:26:54.000 He goes on to mention that they found out he had money, he wasn't poor, and they extorted about $70,000 out of him, and he's lost about $100,000.

01:27:02.000 He says the conditions of his bail were that he has to wear an ankle monitor, surrender his passports, and not leave the city of Kharkov, much less the country.

01:27:09.000 However, after posting bail, he didn't get an ankle monitor, and they returned his passports.

01:27:14.000 He was going to say that he was told by one guy, they were telling you to leave.

01:27:19.000 And then he says he doesn't know, so he decided he will die trying.

01:27:23.000 He rode his motorcycle across Ukraine 1,400 kilometers in two days.

01:27:27.000 He said, I'm going to Hungary to ask for political asylum.

01:27:30.000 When I fail to show up in court in Kharkov, an arrest warrant will be issued, likely an international warrant.

01:27:35.000 No doubt other EU countries will comply like sheep, returning me to serve 5-8 years in

01:27:40.000 a prison labor camp.

01:27:42.000 Regardless of the fact that Kiev arrested and imprisoned me for YouTube videos, for

01:27:46.000 free speech.

01:27:47.000 What happened to European democratic values?

01:27:49.000 Well, I'll tell you, Gonzalo.

01:27:52.000 Freedom, liberty, and the Constitution, whatever you think you have, mean NOTHING in warfare.

01:27:57.000 They can tell you these things, but it's only when you're in a safe and secure state will they allow it.

01:28:01.000 He says, I'm posting this thread just as I'm getting to the border checkpoint.

01:28:04.000 I'm also posting videos on the two channels I have access to, The Roundtable and Gonzalo Lira again.

01:28:10.000 If you don't hear from me in the next 12 hours, well, I'm on my way to a labor camp.

01:28:13.000 Wish me luck.

01:28:14.000 I'll pull up his account right now and see if there's any updates.

01:28:18.000 I believe that was the last he posted.

01:28:21.000 Maybe he has some replies.

01:28:23.000 And we don't know if he made it.

01:28:25.000 That was three hours ago.

01:28:27.000 So this is a crazy story.

01:28:28.000 This is insane.

01:28:29.000 And so this guy, a little bit more about him, he was born in California.

01:28:33.000 He's a U.S.

01:28:34.000 citizen.

01:28:34.000 He's like a dual citizenship in Chilean, and a lot of people use that to discredit him, but he was born in the U.S.

01:28:39.000 He is a U.S.

01:28:40.000 citizen.

01:28:41.000 He was in the past like a contributor for Business Insider, Zero Hedge.

01:28:46.000 I've talked to some people like who I trust, and they kind of have like a bad opinion of him. 0.93

01:28:51.000 They're like, oh, he's kind of a wacko. 1.00

01:28:52.000 But at the end of the day, he was He is a U.S.

01:28:54.000 citizen, and all he was doing, that is correct when he says that, all he was doing was making YouTube videos.

01:29:01.000 Criticizing the U.S.-NATO support for the Ukraine war, criticizing Zelensky.

01:29:08.000 And so I asked the State Department about this a couple months ago, and Matthew Miller, the spokesman, was just like, yeah, you know, we're aware, this was when he was still in jail, he's like, yeah, we're aware that he's in jail, we support free speech, and I'm just gonna leave it at that.

01:29:22.000 And I was like, Well, are you working to get him released?

01:29:25.000 And he's like, I'm just gonna leave it at that.

01:29:27.000 And so clearly it sounds like Gonzalo... They probably had him arrested.

01:29:31.000 Well, yeah, they might have given the order to get him arrested, but it sounds like he escaped prison, right?

01:29:36.000 If I'm reading that right.

01:29:37.000 No, he was released.

01:29:38.000 And they gave him back his passport.

01:29:40.000 Oh, really?

01:29:41.000 Yeah.

01:29:41.000 Oh.

01:29:42.000 They released him, gave him his passport, and said, don't leave.

01:29:45.000 However, he was supposed to have an ankle monitor.

01:29:47.000 And no passport.

01:29:48.000 And no passport.

01:29:48.000 Oh, I see.

01:29:49.000 So, what he tweeted, which is what we were just reading, is that someone told him, yo, they're telling you to leave.

01:29:49.000 I see, I see, okay.

01:29:56.000 But it could be a setup.

01:29:57.000 Like he said, he leaves, he takes us, and he says, I'm getting out of here before, and that's what they used to get him.

01:30:03.000 Yeah.

01:30:03.000 But what do you do other than that?

01:30:04.000 Well, this is wild, and like, I'm excited to kind of ask the government about this now, because like, this could change... I don't know, it's an interesting story.

01:30:14.000 Like, it's going to be interesting to see how, like, our government reacts to this.

01:30:17.000 Because, like, are they going to acknowledge, like, are they going to even acknowledge this story?

01:30:21.000 Because inherent to it is the fact that they've been letting this U.S. 0.71

01:30:24.000 citizen rot in prison for a couple months, you know? 0.99

01:30:26.000 They're going to ignore it.

01:30:28.000 Well, yeah, exactly, and I hope that I can ask them about it, and see what they say, but it's, you know...

01:30:34.000 Yeah, it's just crazy.

01:30:35.000 I mean, he had the wrong views, and so we allowed, or even maybe directed, our ally to imprison him for speech.

01:30:44.000 It's insane.

01:30:45.000 I remember when he was making those videos, I was like, in my gut, I thought, what is he doing? 0.98

01:30:50.000 He's in a war-torn, he's in a country that's at war right now, and he's talking crap about his own gun. 0.54

01:30:54.000 Like, that doesn't go well for citizens if you're in a war. 0.95

01:30:58.000 Yeah, right.

01:30:59.000 But the U.S.

01:31:00.000 should still stand up for their principles.

01:31:02.000 Free speech.

01:31:02.000 I agree with you.

01:31:03.000 I asked Thomas Massey this question.

01:31:05.000 It was not recorded, but he basically said the same thing.

01:31:07.000 He was like, well, what was he doing over there in Ukraine?

01:31:09.000 But it's like, he lived there.

01:31:10.000 He lived there before the war started.

01:31:12.000 He wasn't only reporting.

01:31:12.000 He lived there.

01:31:13.000 So that was his home.

01:31:15.000 What's like the set?

01:31:17.000 Like, if an American goes to another country and becomes a citizen, have they not just forgiven all their American rights?

01:31:23.000 They no longer have American rights.

01:31:24.000 They now have the new country's rights.

01:31:24.000 No, he's still a citizen.

01:31:26.000 He's not a citizen.

01:31:26.000 He's a resident.

01:31:28.000 Yeah, he's a citizen of the U.S., a resident of Ukraine.

01:31:30.000 But his U.S.

01:31:31.000 citizen rights don't apply to other countries.

01:31:33.000 Like, you can't make me give you Chinese rights just because you're a Chinese citizen.

01:31:37.000 But go... I mean, listen to the Biden administration, listen to the State Department.

01:31:41.000 Whenever there's a U.S. 0.60

01:31:42.000 citizen who... I mean, Brittany... Brittany Greiner.

01:31:44.000 Like, remember when she was detained in Russia?

01:31:47.000 It was like, all we could talk about is, like, release him.

01:31:49.000 And then... They traded the merchant to Wall Street.

01:31:51.000 Yeah, and then the Wall Street journalist, the Wall Street Journal journalist who was also in prison in Russia, I don't know if he's still there, but it's like those things we can't stop talking about it because it's our adversaries imprisoning our citizens.

01:32:03.000 This is our ally who we have a ton of leverage over imprisoning our citizens.

01:32:08.000 Which says to me the likely scenario is the Biden administration ordered his arrest.

01:32:12.000 Potentially.

01:32:13.000 Potentially.

01:32:13.000 I asked a bunch of people in Congress about this.

01:32:17.000 None of- zero.

01:32:18.000 Zero out of maybe, like, 25.

01:32:20.000 I would just- I would go, um, in the halls of Congress and outside.

01:32:23.000 Zero out of 25 even knew he was in jail.

01:32:25.000 How plausible does anybody- does everybody here think it is that the U.S.

01:32:31.000 government ordered him to be arrested?

01:32:33.000 How plausible?

01:32:33.000 On a scale of 0 to 100, I'm gonna go ahead and say 100.

01:32:37.000 100% plausibility.

01:32:40.000 I'm not saying it's definitively true.

01:32:41.000 Well, so what I would say is, like, at a minimum, they probably gave the okay.

01:32:46.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:47.000 Like, Ukraine's not just gonna arrest an American citizen, so they probably, at one point, had the U.S.

01:32:51.000 order to arrest him, and then Biden said, yeah, sure.

01:32:53.000 You wanna know why I think the U.S.

01:32:54.000 ordered it?

01:32:55.000 Because Barack Obama killed a 16-year-old American citizen, and that wasn't the only American citizen he killed.

01:33:01.000 So when you can state, definitively, that Barack Obama Murdered a 16 year old American citizen in a drone strike in Yemen, then I'm like, yeah, arresting a guy is like nowhere near that bad.

01:33:12.000 I would say it is plausible 100% that Biden could have ordered that guy's arrest, but I see zero evidence that he did, so I'm not gonna assume anything.

01:33:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:33:21.000 Likely, I think.

01:33:22.000 No, I am.

01:33:22.000 I'm going to assume the U.S.

01:33:24.000 was involved because they wouldn't get him out.

01:33:26.000 They wouldn't talk about it.

01:33:28.000 They ignored it.

01:33:29.000 Yeah, we're too closely, tightly knit with that country for the U.S.

01:33:33.000 not to be involved.

01:33:33.000 Well, I agree they were involved.

01:33:34.000 Yeah, I'm sure it was discussed.

01:33:36.000 I'm sure they went and they said, hey, you know, Biden administration, we got this guy.

01:33:40.000 He's an American.

01:33:41.000 What should we do?

01:33:41.000 And they'll lock him up.

01:33:43.000 Yeah.

01:33:43.000 Don't care.

01:33:43.000 Probably because Biden probably doesn't care if people are talking crap about the Ukraine.

01:33:47.000 It's Biden. 0.98

01:33:48.000 He's checked out.

01:33:49.000 But Zelensky is obsessively shutting down radio stations and TV stations.

01:33:54.000 He shut down two of their biggest three TV stations.

01:33:56.000 Yeah, he was doing that before the war as well.

01:33:58.000 He was sanctioning political opponents as well as media outlets that would criticize him.

01:34:03.000 This was before the war.

01:34:04.000 So yet another reason it's like, why are we propping up this regime?

01:34:07.000 Was he doing that censorship with pressure from the West?

01:34:11.000 Um, I don't- wha- I don't know, but he was doing it.

01:34:13.000 Yeah, I don't know where the pressure came from, but, um...

01:34:17.000 Yeah, so I, you know, he does have a history of, like, not being a super democratic pro-freedom guy.

01:34:23.000 And, um, yeah, this story in general is insane.

01:34:25.000 I mean, I hope, uh, I hope Lyra, I wish him luck, and I hope this also injects into, like, the public conversation of, like, wow, the U.S.

01:34:34.000 just, like, let this guy rot there, and, like, I hope it opens up a conversation about, like, you know, that we're not really on the side of freedom and democracy in this war.

01:34:43.000 Alright everybody, we're going to go to Super Chats!

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01:35:01.000 But for the time being, we will read your Super Chats.

01:35:03.000 Sean says, American Flags, number two song in the country, Tom McDonald and Adam Calhoun make it number one.

01:35:11.000 Absolutely.

01:35:12.000 Go to iTunes, go to wherever you buy music, Amazon perhaps, and buy American Flags by Tom McDonald.

01:35:19.000 And let's build some culture.

01:35:21.000 Tom does a really great job.

01:35:24.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:35:25.000 says, Tim, I got too caught up in our recent streak of cultural winnings that I nearly forgot when it comes to our political leaders.

01:35:31.000 All we have are the hand-sitting-on, strong-worded, yes, hand-sitting-on, strong-worded letter Republicans.

01:35:39.000 But the good news is the Republicans are sending more strongly worded letters.

01:35:43.000 I was getting worried for a minute.

01:35:45.000 Rand Paul sent two so far.

01:35:47.000 Hope they give him a chance to read the old ones first.

01:35:49.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

01:35:51.000 Brandon Hampson says, Ian is slowly turning into ripped Jesus.

01:35:55.000 Dude, I look good in the mirror.

01:35:57.000 I look good.

01:35:59.000 So on the strongly worded letters thing, it's like, what do people want them to do?

01:36:04.000 Impeach Merrick Garland.

01:36:06.000 They have the house.

01:36:08.000 With just the house you can impeach Merrick Garland?

01:36:10.000 Yes.

01:36:11.000 Oh, okay.

01:36:11.000 Conviction is something different.

01:36:14.000 Okay, that's a good suggestion.

01:36:15.000 So impeachment, and then, you know.

01:36:18.000 But at the very least, we're saying, just try.

01:36:22.000 Instead, they're like, oh, you know, what are we gonna do?

01:36:24.000 What they're probably doing is they're going to Democrats and saying, look, they want us to vote to impeach Biden, but I'll tell you what, I'll vote no if you agree with my funding for Insert X Project.

01:36:35.000 Right.

01:36:35.000 Then they go, you got it.

01:36:37.000 That's it.

01:36:38.000 Welcome to Congress.

01:36:41.000 Cody Justin Fanon says nothing will happen.

01:36:43.000 Biden will get a strongly worded letter. 0.99

01:36:45.000 Congress is weak, corrupt, and lazy. 0.59

01:36:48.000 I wish we had political leaders that stood for anything. 0.98

01:36:51.000 I agree.

01:36:53.000 I'm not even convinced Donald Trump is the passionate leader who stands against most of this.

01:36:59.000 I think, for the most part, Trump had an agenda he wanted to enact that he believed in.

01:37:04.000 But I don't think Trump's first term was him being like, we've got to purge the deep state and go after these people.

01:37:09.000 He certainly said drain the swamp.

01:37:11.000 But I don't think he actually passionately believed it because he kept a lot of these awful people in.

01:37:16.000 I don't even believe that Trump cares about it so much today.

01:37:20.000 I think Trump wants revenge today.

01:37:22.000 Big difference.

01:37:23.000 Has there ever been a leader that got in and was like, I'm going to do everything for you guys, all the people, the people.

01:37:28.000 Then they get into power and they're like, yes, everything the people want.

01:37:31.000 And then it's exactly what they wanted.

01:37:33.000 Like all of them.

01:37:34.000 To be fair, Trump tried really hard to keep his promises.

01:37:37.000 But what I'm saying is, Trump had an agenda he thought was good.

01:37:41.000 Not everybody liked it.

01:37:42.000 He got an office, he tried to enact that agenda.

01:37:45.000 He did say he wanted to drain the swamp.

01:37:47.000 He did, to some degree, but he brought in a bunch of bad people that were your typical established Republicans, but then still tried to enact his agenda.

01:37:56.000 Oh, poor him.

01:37:57.000 If only he just fired everybody from the get-go and he should have done it.

01:38:00.000 But I remember at the time, they were like, they'll impeach him if he does.

01:38:03.000 Yeah, how did that work out?

01:38:04.000 He got impeached twice anyway.

01:38:06.000 They impeached him when he wasn't even president anymore.

01:38:10.000 Matt H says, Ian, you're supposed to weigh yourself after you take a dump in the morning.

01:38:14.000 That's how you measure approximate muscle gains.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

01:38:17.000 There you go.

01:38:18.000 Troy B says, anyone else excited to see Tucker on Twitter?

01:38:21.000 Change to Tucker on X. That was a good one.

01:38:26.000 Yep, yep.

01:38:28.000 Mac Anne says, the UFO story is very old, Tim.

01:38:30.000 Not really a distraction, but more of a convenient time to bring it up.

01:38:33.000 Happened in the 80s.

01:38:34.000 Have a good night, guys.

01:38:36.000 It's a story that was written and published today, but I believe you are correct, it's about an old story.

01:38:41.000 What's that?

01:38:42.000 What's that in reference to?

01:38:44.000 The story that UFO almost started World War III.

01:38:47.000 But I think that's a different story, actually.

01:38:49.000 I think the other story was that all the nukes were disabled by UFOs.

01:38:53.000 And now, apparently, there's a story where a UFO almost started World War III or something like that.

01:39:00.000 WeAreChange says, Ian needs to take the chill pill Ashwagandha.

01:39:04.000 Oh yeah.

01:39:05.000 It helps boost natural testosterone and helps with stress while working out.

01:39:08.000 Luke Rudkowski, ladies and gentlemen, WeAreChange.

01:39:12.000 What is that take the chill pill thing?

01:39:13.000 That's Luke's Ashwagandha brand?

01:39:15.000 Ashwagandha.

01:39:16.000 This is something... You take the chill pill?

01:39:18.000 I've taken it before at Luke's suggestion and it is fantastic.

01:39:22.000 It's nice.

01:39:22.000 It's good.

01:39:23.000 But does it have that issue you mentioned of, like, needing to keep replenishing your testosterone?

01:39:28.000 I don't think so.

01:39:29.000 It's more like a supplement.

01:39:30.000 I take ashwagandha as well.

01:39:31.000 How did Luke actually get takethechillpill.com?

01:39:34.000 No, no, no.

01:39:34.000 It just relaxes you.

01:39:36.000 It allows you to calm down.

01:39:37.000 And that's overall generative of testosterone.

01:39:39.000 Take the chill pill?

01:39:40.000 Take the chill pill.

01:39:41.000 Yeah, that's Luke's personal one.

01:39:43.000 How did no one have that domain?

01:39:45.000 Dude, go to takethechillpill.com.

01:39:49.000 Take the chill pill.

01:39:50.000 What's it made of?

01:39:51.000 Oh, you're selling ashwagandha.

01:39:53.000 Nice work there.

01:39:53.000 Probably a bunch of like seed oils and stuff.

01:39:55.000 That's the chill pill.

01:39:55.000 Alright, let's read some more.

01:39:57.000 We got Steve McGee.

01:39:58.000 He says, I'm here for watching Ian gain some lean mass.

01:40:02.000 Hearing 129 was pretty shocking.

01:40:04.000 Is Ian Crosland the new Trad Daddy?

01:40:07.000 11 inches a round.

01:40:07.000 Think about it.

01:40:08.000 Trad Dad.

01:40:09.000 Dude, it was so weird to gain 10 pounds in two days.

01:40:12.000 I've weighed 140 in the past, so it's not that weird.

01:40:15.000 That is very, very underweight, I'm pretty sure.

01:40:17.000 It's so amazing.

01:40:18.000 Have you checked your BMI?

01:40:20.000 No, soon.

01:40:21.000 Next time I go to the gym, we're going to do fat and muscle. 0.53

01:40:24.000 To be fair, BMI is like a lot of nonsense.

01:40:26.000 Dude, my BMI was 7.5% when I went in the first time.

01:40:30.000 That's not what BMI is.

01:40:30.000 BMI is a number.

01:40:31.000 What's your body fat percentage?

01:40:33.000 It's supposed to be like a 10.

01:40:34.000 Between 8 and 12, I was 7.

01:40:38.000 Uh, 23 or something, 22.

01:40:39.000 You are not 23.

01:40:41.000 You're probably like 15.

01:40:42.000 Been a while.

01:40:44.000 I think I got it measured at the doctor as well.

01:40:45.000 So, if you work out, if you lift, or if you're an athlete, your BMI is always super high, so it's kind of nonsense, you know? 0.95

01:40:53.000 But for you, you're probably way underweight, if you check.

01:40:56.000 Just do it right now.

01:40:57.000 It takes five seconds.

01:40:59.000 Let's grab some more!

01:41:00.000 Ryan Sargent says, on a scale of 1 to 10, what would you rate the chances of the U.S.

01:41:04.000 going into a depression?

01:41:05.000 10 being definite.

01:41:07.000 P.S.

01:41:07.000 my wife and I love Rise with Roberto Jr.

01:41:10.000 It is one of the best coffees I've ever had.

01:41:11.000 That's over at castbrew.com.

01:41:13.000 But I do think Appalachian Nights is the best coffee I've ever had.

01:41:17.000 It's easy for me to say, I'm the one who formulated it.

01:41:20.000 So surprise, I chose what was most delicious to me, and now I think it's the most delicious thing ever.

01:41:24.000 But I really do recommend it.

01:41:25.000 Scale 1 to 10 for depression?

01:41:27.000 It's tough, because there's a lot of indicators suggesting things actually aren't going to get that bad in the short term.

01:41:35.000 It's weird things going on.

01:41:36.000 But then I would also add, the weird things might suggest weird things.

01:41:42.000 You know.

01:41:42.000 I can't speak too much.

01:41:43.000 I'm not an economic guy.

01:41:44.000 I was just watching... Who was I watching?

01:41:48.000 What's his name?

01:41:48.000 Anthony Pompliano?

01:41:49.000 Is that his name?

01:41:50.000 That's his name, yeah.

01:41:51.000 Yeah, I was watching one of his videos.

01:41:53.000 He explained a lot of this stuff.

01:41:54.000 Maybe I'm getting some of it wrong, but I recommend checking out his stuff.

01:41:57.000 And I can tell you that when I checked out Max Keiser's A Big Finance Guy, all he did was scream, buy Bitcoin over and over again, and then I regretted not taking his word for it.

01:42:07.000 Yep.

01:42:07.000 The crypto makes it so it seems like a full-on depression is less likely, but I think you're going to see a wage gap increase, where you'll see some poor people get poorer.

01:42:15.000 Already have.

01:42:15.000 Yeah, I know, with the amount of homelessness that's struck the last two years.

01:42:19.000 So there's a depression for some, you know.

01:42:21.000 Apparently Ganzo Lira also posted on YouTube.

01:42:24.000 Yeah, that's what it says on that.

01:42:25.000 Let me, uh, pull this up.

01:42:27.000 Part of me was like, why is he posting, but at the same time, like, what in the hell could anyone in that situation do at this point?

01:42:31.000 I imagine- Oh, I would- I mean, it's very smart to record your journey and get people- Yeah, exactly.

01:42:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:36.000 That's the last thing he would do.

01:42:37.000 Just for his own safety, just post something.

01:42:39.000 That's very smart.

01:42:39.000 The last thing he posted was two hours ago saying he was about to cross the border.

01:42:42.000 Hell yeah.

01:42:43.000 He should've live-streamed it.

01:42:44.000 He should've, like, Twitch-streamed it.

01:42:46.000 So we could see what they did to him.

01:42:47.000 Should we advocate to bring him to the U.S.

01:42:49.000 and let him stay here?

01:42:50.000 He's an American citizen!

01:42:51.000 That's what I mean!

01:42:52.000 If he can get on a flight, he's here.

01:42:53.000 He'll be safe.

01:42:54.000 Yeah.

01:42:55.000 But then again, if Ukraine indicts him, the U.S.

01:42:57.000 is gonna send him back.

01:42:58.000 That's what I'm wondering.

01:43:00.000 Oh, my BMI, I have the number.

01:43:02.000 I was 18.5, now I'm 19.8.

01:43:04.000 Oh, okay.

01:43:05.000 That's not bad.

01:43:08.000 Really?

01:43:08.000 At 140?

01:43:09.000 That seems really low.

01:43:10.000 I had a super low.

01:43:12.000 I mean, I feel like it should be lower.

01:43:13.000 Yeah, I remember I went to the doctor.

01:43:15.000 I was the lowest number at the normal weight, which is 18.5.

01:43:19.000 All gains from here on up.

01:43:21.000 Just go to the bathroom when you gotta go to the bathroom.

01:43:24.000 Sleep when you gotta sleep.

01:43:25.000 And eat twice as much as you think you need.

01:43:27.000 Are you going to continue this pace, though, of, what is it, 12 pounds per week forever?

01:43:32.000 I think I would be happy at 170, and then just rip muscle, just shredded for movies.

01:43:38.000 I don't want to get too big.

01:43:41.000 But then I'll keep it stable after that.

01:43:44.000 So I don't know if it means you keep working out every day.

01:43:46.000 Okay, so you're okay right now, normal weight.

01:43:48.000 You're on the low end.

01:43:50.000 But you were underweight before.

01:43:53.000 Yeah, 129.

01:43:54.000 Ghandi.

01:43:55.000 Yeah, that's like amazing.

01:43:58.000 Actually, even at your lowest, apparently you were just at the bottom end of normal weight.

01:44:04.000 127.

01:44:05.000 Luke says... 127's underweight.

01:44:07.000 Luke says, Ian hitting the gym.

01:44:08.000 Let's go.

01:44:10.000 Let's go, Ian.

01:44:11.000 Dude, Luke, you gotta get out here, man.

01:44:13.000 You're gonna love it.

01:44:13.000 Real quick on the depression thing.

01:44:15.000 You're shredded, brother.

01:44:15.000 Real quick on the depression thing.

01:44:17.000 So definition of depression is three or more years of sustained decline in the real GDP at at least 10% in one given year.

01:44:27.000 So I mean, is that possible?

01:44:31.000 Potentially.

01:44:32.000 I mean, that would just be very devastating.

01:44:35.000 I disagree with you.

01:44:35.000 I don't see how crypto in any way prevents What do you mean fake coin?

01:44:40.000 GDP if anything it's taking money away from GDP because you're just like putting it into these

01:44:44.000 computers that Solve math problems and give people a fake coin. I think I

01:44:49.000 see a lot of benefits. What do you mean fake coin?

01:44:52.000 Well, I just mean it's a it's a coin that isn't backed by anything

01:44:54.000 But it is it's you know, it's the immutable ledger, but it is well, especially depending on which coin you're talking

01:44:59.000 about Some are backed by U.S.

01:45:01.000 dollars.

01:45:02.000 This is the thing with crypto.

01:45:06.000 If it's backed by an asset, then you are now relying on a third party to honor that commitment.

01:45:12.000 You mean like buying silver on exchange and having it stored there?

01:45:15.000 Yes, but also you can buy silver and keep it at your house.

01:45:18.000 And you can cold storage crypto.

01:45:23.000 Yeah, you can cold storage crypto.

01:45:24.000 I'm just saying if it's backed by a US dollar, if it's backed by an asset, then you're relying on someone to actually give it to you.

01:45:29.000 One of the cryptos I do like is Monero.

01:45:32.000 That one is like... I don't even own it, but it's like...

01:45:36.000 All the transactions are obfuscated, so they're all washed, so the government can't track you.

01:45:41.000 And I think there's some utility to that.

01:45:43.000 If we did slip into some sort of authoritarian world where your transactions are being monitored and stuff, and you want to use something like Monero, I don't think it helps GDP.

01:45:52.000 I don't know if we can go into a depression.

01:45:55.000 But I do love Peter Schiff.

01:45:56.000 Check him out.

01:45:57.000 He's great.

01:45:58.000 He came down to occupy Wall Street.

01:46:00.000 He would probably agree with that.

01:46:01.000 I think he thinks... His whole thing is he thinks we're getting a depression and inflation and it's gonna be frickin' bad.

01:46:07.000 Yeah, because we're in stagflation right now as well.

01:46:09.000 Alright, let's read some more.

01:46:09.000 Which is a never-happens-in-an-era, and we're already in this.

01:46:11.000 We've had so many never-happened things.

01:46:13.000 That's what a lot of economists say.

01:46:14.000 They know what's gonna happen, they're... There's no way.

01:46:16.000 No one knows.

01:46:16.000 Alright, we got Kato Asta says, An expansion of the idea of the truck company segment earlier.

01:46:22.000 Just for a quick reference, Yellow Trucks is shutting down.

01:46:24.000 30,000 jobs about to be nuked.

01:46:26.000 Jeez.

01:46:27.000 22,000 Teamsters, UPS was found by its union to have made $52 billion in profit in the past five years, and UPS is now giving about $7 raise to all drivers, made me thought, think, why do we demand more in pay instead of demand company drop prices?

01:46:42.000 Well, the staff, they want, the people who work there want to get a bigger cut of what they're producing, that I get.

01:46:49.000 The issue with Yellow Truck is that the company was collapsing, and the union was making demands, and then the company just outright collapsed, and now nobody has a job.

01:46:56.000 So the point I was making is that it's really funny when it comes to the left's arguments.

01:47:01.000 They're like, the people who are producing the product deserve a share of the wages.

01:47:05.000 And I'm just like, you are correct.

01:47:07.000 And then when the company's facing debt, do we take that money back and they got to pay into the company to cover the debts?

01:47:14.000 No.

01:47:15.000 So they only get they get they get profit when the going's good.

01:47:18.000 But when the going's bad, it's everything on the on the business.

01:47:21.000 That doesn't make sense, does it?

01:47:23.000 Alright, how about this?

01:47:24.000 Like, here's my negotiation.

01:47:26.000 Everybody gets a percentage, and then when the company falls on hard times, you have to pay to reinvest back into the company.

01:47:33.000 Yeah, no one's gonna want to do that.

01:47:36.000 Alright, we'll grab some more.

01:47:38.000 Jacob says, listen to Tom McDonald and Adam Calhoun's new song, American Flags.

01:47:41.000 Indeed.

01:47:42.000 You should.

01:47:44.000 We'll grab some more Super Chats here.

01:47:47.000 SH22 says the reason why the USD keeping its strength up is because of geopolitical economic interdependence.

01:47:53.000 Keeps people on our side if they have a vested interest in the U.S.

01:47:56.000 That's right.

01:47:56.000 The reason why the U.S.

01:47:58.000 is giving money for gender studies in Pakistan is because if people have the money, they want to use the money. 0.84

01:48:03.000 So the U.S.

01:48:04.000 is like, we will bolster confidence in our money by giving our money away.

01:48:09.000 There you go.

01:48:10.000 It really does work that way.

01:48:12.000 Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says, Tim, that makes no sense.

01:48:15.000 Why would the CIA, to avoid communist China becoming strong, prefer the globalist communists at the WEF?

01:48:21.000 CIA is bad, MK. 0.56

01:48:22.000 I can explain that to you very simply!

01:48:25.000 You see, the World Economic Forum, people in the CIA, Democrats, the deep state, they took a look at China and said, their system is so much better than our system because they can spin on a dime. 0.51

01:48:37.000 We want that.

01:48:39.000 We just don't want them to be in control.

01:48:41.000 They want all of this live in the pot and eat the bugs. 0.97

01:48:45.000 They just want to be the ones running it.

01:48:47.000 It's that simple.

01:48:48.000 They don't believe in the American dream and American values, they believe in power.

01:48:51.000 I see it a little different.

01:48:52.000 I see three factions on earth.

01:48:54.000 The communist faction, the economic faction, and the liberty faction.

01:49:00.000 You could say that the CIA has been co-opted and that it's not quite functioning as a liberty faction right now, but this liberal economic order faction.

01:49:06.000 Not quite?

01:49:07.000 When were they ever?

01:49:08.000 Yeah, really.

01:49:09.000 1949, hopefully.

01:49:10.000 No.

01:49:10.000 1942 or 43.

01:49:11.000 No, it was always the power.

01:49:13.000 I don't think Allen Dulles was ever about liberty.

01:49:15.000 Well, then the Spanish-American War, 1898.

01:49:18.000 They legit liberated Cuba and just let Cuba become a free country.

01:49:23.000 But the CIA didn't exist in 1898.

01:49:24.000 No, no, no.

01:49:25.000 That's the liberal ethos that I'm looking for.

01:49:27.000 Oh, okay.

01:49:29.000 Sustaining the Monroe Doctrine.

01:49:32.000 So I think that there's multiple factions.

01:49:33.000 I don't think the CIA necessarily wants the World Economic Forum to take over either, but they're blind with their pants down, like, how do we stop technocratic revolution?

01:49:43.000 So I think their ears are open.

01:49:44.000 All right, Cipriano Diaz says, Hi Tim, my cat is having surgery tomorrow.

01:49:48.000 Broken tooth, fractured paw and jaw.

01:49:50.000 Oh no.

01:49:51.000 Everyone, please pray everything goes well.

01:49:53.000 Ian, please send some healing energy for quick recovery.

01:49:56.000 Love you all.

01:49:56.000 Love you.

01:49:57.000 I hope everything goes well.

01:49:58.000 I gotta give you that rock.

01:49:59.000 Luke charged it in the ocean for you.

01:50:00.000 Oh, let's do it.

01:50:01.000 We gotta grab it.

01:50:02.000 Ceremoniously.

01:50:03.000 Yeah.

01:50:04.000 He walked into the ocean with this crystal.

01:50:07.000 And he wanted to make sure you knew that he charged it for you.

01:50:09.000 Excellent.

01:50:09.000 I have no idea what that means, but he put it in water, so... Yeah, he put his Reiki into it.

01:50:13.000 His electromagnetic field vibrated the subatomic spin within.

01:50:16.000 He put it in the ocean.

01:50:17.000 Ooh.

01:50:18.000 And then he said it's charged now.

01:50:19.000 The ocean charged it.

01:50:20.000 Oh, maybe those are free radicals.

01:50:21.000 Is it ionization from the salt water?

01:50:23.000 Does it lose charge?

01:50:23.000 Do you gotta, like, bring it back to the waters of Tijuana?

01:50:27.000 Um, yeah, I think so.

01:50:28.000 It could lose charge, but some structures are so great at holding charge, like crystals.

01:50:34.000 Group B says, went and saw Sound of Freedom yesterday morning for first showing at 1040 and it was packed.

01:50:40.000 I re-watched the Tim Ballard episode.

01:50:42.000 Dude, what a story.

01:50:44.000 That is actually, I would recommend that.

01:50:46.000 If you go see Sound of Freedom, go re-watch the episode of IRL we did with Tim Ballard as like a director's commentary almost.

01:50:53.000 Or go see the movie again, then go watch the episode we did with Tim Ballard again.

01:50:58.000 So you can get a breakdown and it's fresh in your mind.

01:51:01.000 And what did they break, like 150 million?

01:51:04.000 Probably something like that.

01:51:05.000 At this point, no.

01:51:06.000 Let me pull up... Have you seen it?

01:51:08.000 Sound of Freedom?

01:51:08.000 No, I haven't seen it yet.

01:51:09.000 It's awesome.

01:51:10.000 I'm planning to.

01:51:11.000 Yeah, man.

01:51:14.000 Jim Caviezel's 49 million.

01:51:15.000 Wow.

01:51:16.000 Jim Caviezel's got, like, this silent pain.

01:51:20.000 The man is amazing.

01:51:22.000 I still haven't seen The Passion of the Christ yet.

01:51:24.000 Well, so, what I thought was funny about Sound of Freedom is, like, when the mainstream media bashed it as QAnon, everyone who liked the movie kind of jumped to its defense and was like, no, no, no, it doesn't even talk about the government!

01:51:34.000 And that's when I was like, well, okay, I'm not as interested now. 0.86

01:51:37.000 I do realize it's, like, super fucked up what's going on, but, like, And I think a lot of Pizzagate was bullshit, but there was a lot of weird factual things in Pizzagate that raised red flags about John Podesta and stuff. 0.96

01:51:50.000 And then obviously Epstein is a proven case of basically government-sanctioned pedophilia. 0.98

01:51:57.000 I wish the mainstream media was right, and it did actually get into some government pedophilia.

01:52:02.000 You should watch The Passion.

01:52:05.000 Yeah, I watched it recently for the first time.

01:52:07.000 I'd never seen it, and, uh, it's good.

01:52:10.000 It is.

01:52:11.000 It's not, uh, it's, it's, I don't actually see it as overtly religious.

01:52:15.000 It's very political.

01:52:16.000 Is it just Caviezel screaming in agony for, like, two hours?

01:52:19.000 Not really.

01:52:19.000 Okay, good.

01:52:19.000 I think that's exaggerated.

01:52:20.000 I mean, it's merciless and graphic.

01:52:23.000 I like the politics.

01:52:24.000 Jesus Christ Superstar, the musical, also good politics.

01:52:28.000 It's a lot of politics.

01:52:29.000 I remember strongly the scene with Pontius and he's talking to the crowd and all of these things.

01:52:38.000 Very political.

01:52:38.000 I thought it was very, very interesting.

01:52:39.000 Does it show Judas from a somewhat sympathetic light?

01:52:42.000 In Jesus Christ Superstar, the story is from Judas' perspective and he's watching his friends slowly lose it.

01:52:48.000 It's an opinion.

01:52:48.000 He's like, Jesus, when we started, it was about the message.

01:52:50.000 Now it's about your name.

01:52:51.000 They're screaming your name.

01:52:52.000 They don't care what you're saying anymore.

01:52:54.000 This has got to stop.

01:52:55.000 And Jesus is like, Gah!

01:52:56.000 He's losing his mind.

01:52:57.000 It's an awesome musical.

01:52:58.000 They show throwing the silver to Judas, and it, like, spills on the ground.

01:53:02.000 Yeah.

01:53:03.000 Wild.

01:53:03.000 And then he, like, throws it back later, and he's like, I don't know.

01:53:06.000 You should watch it.

01:53:06.000 It's interesting.

01:53:08.000 All right.

01:53:08.000 We'll grab some more Super Chats over here.

01:53:11.000 Let's see.

01:53:11.000 Eric Miller says, Tim, about yellow trucking, it is rumored that Amazon and Home Depot were going to buy them because they have accounts with them and it's cheaper now.

01:53:17.000 Hmm.

01:53:18.000 Interesting.

01:53:20.000 Robert Fox says, I don't normally get to watch this live, but let me cook.

01:53:23.000 I want a Roberto Jr.

01:53:24.000 shirt that says, flock around and find out.

01:53:27.000 Keep doing the great work.

01:53:28.000 Cluck around and find out.

01:53:31.000 Oh yeah, let's do it.

01:53:32.000 Cluck around and find out.

01:53:33.000 I get flock around and find out.

01:53:35.000 I don't know, maybe that one's better.

01:53:37.000 We're going to be doing Roberto Jr.

01:53:41.000 Pro Model Skateboards.

01:53:42.000 Oh, sweet.

01:53:44.000 I don't get a pro model skateboard.

01:53:45.000 I posted a skate video today on Instagram.

01:53:48.000 I like that, because it showed a blooper.

01:53:50.000 That was cool.

01:53:51.000 It was still impressive.

01:53:54.000 The blooper made it better, because I saw the struggle.

01:53:57.000 It's not so much a blooper.

01:53:59.000 It's that day I did a hang 10 hard flip, light flip, stuck it, and then fell, and that was the best it was going to be.

01:54:04.000 That was awesome.

01:54:05.000 And then I did a different trick, which is very, very similar, which is an endo flip.

01:54:09.000 Oh, I thought it was the same trick.

01:54:11.000 Two different tricks.

01:54:12.000 Two different tricks, very, very similar.

01:54:14.000 So the first trick is called a hang ten hard flip, late flip.

01:54:17.000 The board flips around, then right before catching it, when it's upright, I hit it again so it flips one more time.

01:54:23.000 On the grip tape.

01:54:24.000 On the grip tape.

01:54:25.000 The second trick is a hang ten endo flip where the board flips end over end and then halfway around I hit it on its underside while it's upside down causing it to flip one and a half times and then I land on it.

01:54:37.000 Different trick.

01:54:39.000 Looks similar.

01:54:41.000 I'm not a skater, but it did look cool, I gotta say that.

01:54:44.000 Roberto Jr.

01:54:45.000 pro model.

01:54:46.000 That's sweet.

01:54:46.000 Do you know what sizes he's gonna have?

01:54:48.000 Like A5?

01:54:48.000 Roberto Jr.' 's probably gonna be A5.

01:54:50.000 Because that's the board I'm gonna ride.

01:54:51.000 The Roberto Jr.

01:54:52.000 model.

01:54:54.000 Yeah, he's a superstar over here, man.

01:54:56.000 All the ladies love him. 0.75

01:54:58.000 All the chicken ladies. 1.00

01:54:59.000 They love him.

01:55:00.000 But Lil' Luke's been going at it lately. 1.00

01:55:02.000 Lil' Luke the rooster, his feet are all messed up.

01:55:05.000 Oh yeah?

01:55:10.000 Malnourishment.

01:55:11.000 Something happened when he was a baby, which is like earlier this year, and so his feet are kind of messed up.

01:55:16.000 But it's okay, because apparently he's had no trouble, you know, getting it on with the ladies.

01:55:19.000 Well, that's good.

01:55:20.000 Are you gonna have a single bull to get the ladies, uh... Typically we just have the... We... For a while it was Roberto and Roberto Jr., and then Roberto, you know, he had to be... He retired.

01:55:34.000 He was actually imprisoned for sexual assault.

01:55:37.000 Yeah, he was hurting one of the hens pretty bad.

01:55:39.000 And now Roberto- You guys put him in prison?

01:55:41.000 It was culture shock, yeah.

01:55:42.000 He had to get put in a separate little pen because he was hurting the hens.

01:55:44.000 Oh, wow. 0.98

01:55:44.000 And then Roberto- Now he's over at the, uh, cock town. 0.98

01:55:47.000 Over at Ferdinand's town. 0.98

01:55:48.000 Um, but, uh, Roberto Jr., now, his spurs are really big and he's starting to hurt the ladies pretty bad, so... He's taking after his father.

01:55:54.000 Well, it just happens when the roosters get older, and a lot of people are like, cut the spurs, and I'm like, ah, but that's mean, like it hurts them, and we don't want to do that, but maybe we just got Roberto Jr.

01:56:03.000 is going to have to go to finer pastures.

01:56:05.000 I think what we're going to do, though, and this is a big announcement, we're going to auction off a bunch of the chickens.

01:56:08.000 They have a chicken auction periodically out here, and so we've got too many, and they keep making more of themselves, so we have to do something about that.

01:56:16.000 So we're probably going to take, you know, a good portion, maybe half of the current batch, and then auction them.

01:56:23.000 So I think the people locally out here will be really excited and then we'll get like little placards with their names and we'll like sign it like official cast, you know, uh, cast castle chicken city chickens, but then we'll keep the original chickens.

01:56:36.000 Those are our, those are our friends.

01:56:37.000 You know, we, we, we like them like Margaret and Roberto jr.

01:56:41.000 Margaret's very ravenous.

01:56:43.000 Let's grab some more super chats from our friends here.

01:56:47.000 Toose Nalorum says, you are all talking about Russian prisons, but in Ameri- We weren't talking about Russian prisons, we were talking about Ukraine.

01:56:53.000 But in American prisons people get raped to the point it's a joke in most media and pop culture.

01:56:57.000 Think about it, the worst crime in existence, even murder is more merciful, happens in American prisons as standard fare if you cross a warden by refusing to be, uh, literal slave labor.

01:57:06.000 Yes, the U.S.

01:57:07.000 prison system is horrifying and completely broken, I agree.

01:57:10.000 But we weren't talking about Russian prisons.

01:57:12.000 I don't think we said anything about Russia.

01:57:13.000 No, we were talking about Ukraine.

01:57:14.000 Yeah, Ukraine.

01:57:15.000 Brittany Griner came up at one point.

01:57:16.000 Oh, right, right, right, right.

01:57:19.000 Yeah, but we didn't mention anything about the prisons.

01:57:21.000 Or endorse American prisons either, so, yeah.

01:57:24.000 As DoeIs2Deer says, there is no faster way to accelerate the divide in the country than to pardon the leader of one side after they commit high crimes.

01:57:31.000 I agree.

01:57:31.000 Yeah, you'd have to do both at the same time.

01:57:33.000 Nope.

01:57:34.000 Wait, sorry, can you say that again?

01:57:35.000 This was the, uh... No faster way to divide a country than by pardoning one leader, like a leader from one side of the political aisle.

01:57:43.000 And then prosecuting someone on the other side?

01:57:47.000 Yeah, or not.

01:57:48.000 Yeah, assumedly, I guess.

01:57:50.000 I really strongly disagree with you about pardoning people and stuff like that.

01:57:58.000 What's your motivation for it?

01:58:00.000 Because on the whole blackmail thing to end the Ukraine war, I think it's a no-brainer, pardon them.

01:58:07.000 I completely disagree.

01:58:08.000 I don't think so.

01:58:09.000 That makes no sense.

01:58:10.000 If it had a chance of ending the war in Ukraine, I would do a lot of things, but I would certainly pardon Joe Biden.

01:58:17.000 Yeah, my goal is world peace.

01:58:22.000 If it would do thing, we do it.

01:58:23.000 Sure, but the reality is it would not.

01:58:26.000 No, no, it might, because he might have blackmail on him, and that might be why we're still in this war.

01:58:31.000 If you have pardon power in this position, you criminally prosecute.

01:58:35.000 Like, there's no circumstance in which you'd pardon Joe Biden for any reason.

01:58:41.000 What do you mean?

01:58:42.000 The reason is like... You can forgive him and say, don't worry Joe Biden, as president, we the American people will not hold it against you if it turns out you did bad things.

01:58:52.000 Yeah, yeah, I see, yeah.

01:58:53.000 That's what I mean.

01:58:54.000 If you are the president and you have federal pardoning power, you go to your DOJ and say, lock him up.

01:58:59.000 I want an indictment tomorrow morning.

01:59:01.000 Right, so it's not technically pardoning, it's basically just like, we're not going to prosecute him.

01:59:06.000 Well, I'm looking for... But, no, he has the prosecution power.

01:59:10.000 Like, his appointees... Ian's scenario was like, if you're president, or like, if you have magically have the pardon power, would you use it to, you know... And this is my point, like, let's talk about how we deal with this in reality because this scenario is impossible.

01:59:24.000 Completely impossible.

01:59:25.000 Right.

01:59:25.000 But like, that's also fantasy.

01:59:26.000 We need ballot harvesting, ballot chasing, we need massive voter operations. Trump goes in,

01:59:31.000 appoints an AG who immediately goes after Joe Biden, and we get a perp walk. There you go,

01:59:37.000 problem solved. But like that's also fantasy, like if you think that's gonna happen,

01:59:42.000 like you're not living in reality. That's actually possible.

01:59:44.000 No, I see it's like a physical, it's a theoretical possibility.

01:59:48.000 I just think, like, the fact that not only Trump gets in the White House, but that he, like, is able to... These are just opinion statements, right?

01:59:55.000 I'm saying it is a fact-based reality that...

01:59:59.000 Trump is running for office.

02:00:00.000 Right.

02:00:01.000 There's going to be an election.

02:00:03.000 If he wins, he can then appoint an AG who does his thing.

02:00:06.000 There is no basis in reality where someone magically has pardon power, but they're not in the government.

02:00:11.000 Yeah, no, I get what you're saying.

02:00:12.000 I'm just saying, like, you yourself said that, like, you think the 2024 elections are going to be... They're going to happen, but they're basically going to be a sham.

02:00:19.000 I didn't say that.

02:00:21.000 I said no one's going to accept the results.

02:00:24.000 Oh, I see.

02:00:24.000 Okay.

02:00:25.000 So you think there's a real chance Trump could win?

02:00:27.000 Yes.

02:00:29.000 Well, to answer your question about... Oh, you have more?

02:00:32.000 Trump beat Hillary Clinton.

02:00:33.000 Right, but then think about 2020 when there was the whole intel community coming together and censoring the Hunter Biden story.

02:00:42.000 And they created the Russia story during the election as well against Donald Trump.

02:00:47.000 And Trump still beat Hillary Clinton.

02:00:49.000 Because Hillary didn't go to... what was it?

02:00:52.000 She skipped Michigan?

02:00:53.000 Or Wisconsin?

02:00:54.000 I think it was actually Pennsylvania, but I'm not positive.

02:00:57.000 It was somewhere in the rest of the country.

02:00:58.000 I guess you don't fully buy into the fact that they will do whatever is possible to not let him get in office.

02:01:04.000 A vengeful, second-term Trump, you don't think that the deep state will... I didn't say that.

02:01:11.000 But what do you think is more likely?

02:01:12.000 Do you think the deep state will succeed in preventing him from getting elected?

02:01:16.000 What do you think the percentage is that Trump could win?

02:01:18.000 I think the bureaucratic state, the deep state, the permanent government will do everything in their power to try and stop Trump and there's a possibility Trump wins.

02:01:24.000 Do you want to put a percentage on it that Trump wins?

02:01:28.000 No idea.

02:01:29.000 No idea.

02:01:30.000 Trump won in 2016, you lost in 2020, so that means it's 50-50.

02:01:33.000 50-50, okay.

02:01:35.000 I give it a 7% chance.

02:01:38.000 I like that, yeah.

02:01:39.000 Anyone that says, when you hire me to be your boss, I'm gonna fire you, they're not gonna hire you to be their boss. 0.92

02:01:45.000 Uh, the reason I'm going for pardons and why I keep talking about pardons is because I don't, honestly, I don't give a fuck about Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, these old people that have been shredding my republic for the last 20, 30 years, these families. 0.99

02:01:57.000 I'm tired of it all. 0.98

02:01:58.000 I want to wash them away.

02:01:59.000 I want to pardon everyone, let them retire so we can create a new government, a functional, liberal government.

02:02:04.000 And then, from their retirement, they buy houses next to the White House.

02:02:07.000 Start putting tons of money into their appointees, use their exorbitant assets and their hundreds of millions of dollars earned from their influence to then inject people into your new constitutional republic.

02:02:19.000 That'll never stop though.

02:02:20.000 Yeah, it will!

02:02:21.000 It's called putting them in jail.

02:02:22.000 Yeah, but that doesn't stop the behavior.

02:02:25.000 And it also pisses people off when their relatives go to jail, so you just gotta be careful with the whole prosecution.

02:02:30.000 I have very little concern for corrupt American dynasty families who have been selling us out when there's 320-some-odd million people who would smile if these people were locked up for the crimes they commit.

02:02:43.000 I'm not convinced that...

02:02:46.000 I'm talking about the babies too, because a lot of those hundreds of millions of babies in there.

02:02:49.000 Babies smile too.

02:02:50.000 I don't think it's a good idea to worry about the reactions of family members as...

02:02:55.000 when it comes to whether or not we should prosecute people for violating.

02:02:59.000 No, no.

02:02:59.000 Or political partners.

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02:03:25.000 Um, yeah, you guys can follow me on Twitter, x at, uh, at Cosgrove underscore IV.

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02:03:51.000 I don't know, you guys ever play XCOM?

02:03:53.000 Speaking of video games earlier?

02:03:54.000 Yeah.

02:03:55.000 One of the best video games ever made.

02:03:56.000 Is that one of the... Isn't it like a freemium game?

02:03:58.000 XCOM UFO Defense.

02:03:59.000 That's like a freemium alien game.

02:04:00.000 Probably at this point it is.

02:04:01.000 It came out by MicroProse in 1992.

02:04:04.000 I would be shocked if that's the best game ever.

02:04:06.000 It was really good, dude.

02:04:07.000 And they made sequels.

02:04:09.000 XCOM.

02:04:09.000 I've never played it.

02:04:10.000 I have a feeling Elon's a fan.

02:04:11.000 He's got X.com.

02:04:12.000 Nice job, Elon.

02:04:14.000 Nice work bringing it to the forefront, brother.

02:04:16.000 So come on over to TimCast.com.

02:04:17.000 We're going to do a little hot after show action.

02:04:19.000 I'm going to convince you why you should pardon Hillary Clinton. 1.00

02:04:21.000 You're going to be into it.

02:04:22.000 You're going to love it.

02:04:24.000 I disagree.

02:04:25.000 I don't think you should pardon Hillary Clinton, of all people.

02:04:27.000 My name is Serge.com.

02:04:30.000 I'm really proud of you gaining all this weight, getting shredded, bro, for real.

02:04:34.000 My pleasure.

02:04:35.000 Pleasure meeting you, Liam.

02:04:36.000 And yeah, let's just do the after show.

02:04:38.000 Let's go for it.

02:04:38.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 31, 2023

Timcast IRL - Biden DIRECTLY Implicated By Devon Archer, Dems PANIC Over Scandal w-Liam Cosgrove

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