Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Biden DOJ Files NEW Trump INDICTMENT For Trying To Wipe Server w-Angel Studios

00:00:00.000 Donald Trump has been indicted.

00:00:30.000 And you're going to love this, everybody.

00:00:32.000 He's being indicted by the Biden DOJ for trying to wipe a server.

00:00:36.000 I kid you not.

00:00:37.000 It is beautiful irony.

00:00:38.000 And I'm just I got to be honest, I'm very, very glad they did it.

00:00:41.000 Because, you know, it's only going to be a matter of days, maybe maybe hours until Hillary Clinton gets indicted for actually having her server deleted and phone smashed with hammers. 1.00

00:00:52.000 Now, I suppose the reason they're indicting Trump for this is so they can make the argument that, hey, you claimed for years that wiping the server was a criminal act and here's Trump trying to do it.

00:01:02.000 Now you have to be against Trump.

00:01:04.000 But it actually does the inverse.

00:01:06.000 Now I'm going to be like, you said no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against Hillary, so clearly you are not reasonable prosecutors.

00:01:13.000 Right now we got this big story about Hunter Biden.

00:01:15.000 They tried sneaking in an unprecedented blanket immunity deal for Hunter on all charges and the judge caught it.

00:01:23.000 Yeah, see, this is what they're doing.

00:01:24.000 The Biden DOJ, corrupt as they come.

00:01:27.000 And we're watching it happen in real time, so we'll talk about that.

00:01:29.000 Plus, ladies and gentlemen, Anheuser-Busch is laying off hundreds of people.

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00:02:57.000 The reason why I think it's gonna be so great as we talk about the parallel economy is that joining us today, smash the like button, is the Harman Brothers.

00:03:04.000 These are the guys behind Sound of Freedom's distribution and Angel Studios.

00:03:08.000 Do you guys want to introduce yourselves?

00:03:09.000 Sure.

00:03:10.000 Neil Harman.

00:03:11.000 I'm a co-founder and CEO of Angel Studios.

00:03:14.000 You can carry the mic around with you.

00:03:16.000 Oh, great, great, great.

00:03:17.000 Yeah, Neil Harman, co-founder and CEO of Angel Studios.

00:03:20.000 And I'm Jeff Harman, also co-founder.

00:03:24.000 And there's another Harman brother back there.

00:03:26.000 We just don't have enough space, so we got another Harman brother.

00:03:28.000 There are three more.

00:03:29.000 There's three more?

00:03:30.000 There's too many!

00:03:31.000 Too many Harman brothers.

00:03:32.000 But you guys are the founders of Angel Studios.

00:03:36.000 Yes.

00:03:37.000 This is amazing.

00:03:38.000 Parallel Economy.

00:03:38.000 We've got to build our own spaces, build our own culture.

00:03:42.000 You guys just had a smashing success with Sound of Freedom.

00:03:45.000 We're big fans, so...

00:03:46.000 Right on.

00:03:47.000 Do you want to mention anything about the studio so people can understand and get started?

00:03:51.000 So Angel means ownership.

00:03:54.000 Angel investors were the first to invest in Broadway, right?

00:03:57.000 They were the ones who made those shows possible.

00:04:00.000 And it's the same thing here.

00:04:04.000 We've got over 100,000 people who've invested in the shows that we've done.

00:04:08.000 Dry Bar Comedy, The Chosen, Tuttle Twins, Sound of Freedom.

00:04:13.000 The people are bringing these shows to market.

00:04:15.000 Right on.

00:04:16.000 Well, it's gonna be fun.

00:04:17.000 We certainly will talk about that.

00:04:18.000 There's this funny article from Vox where they said Sound of Freedom is as dark and dangerous as child trafficking itself, which is the most psychotic and insane thing.

00:04:28.000 But I love it because Sound of Freedom was originally owned by Disney, right?

00:04:31.000 It was made by Fox, I think?

00:04:33.000 Yes.

00:04:33.000 And then you guys secured the distribution rights.

00:04:35.000 Is that how it went down?

00:04:36.000 Yeah, so Fox originally made it, then Disney acquired Fox, and then the producer Eduardo Verastegui, who was here, he managed to get it out of Disney, and then we got the rights.

00:04:48.000 Who knew that Fox was so into QAnon?

00:04:51.000 I know, it's crazy!

00:04:52.000 Can you believe it?

00:04:53.000 And Disney!

00:04:53.000 Wow!

00:04:54.000 They did it before it was a thing.

00:04:57.000 They invented it!

00:04:59.000 We also have Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out.

00:05:01.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:05:02.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:05:04.000 I'm so happy to be here with you guys, and Ian's here also.

00:05:06.000 Yes, I am.

00:05:07.000 I'm very excited to be here with you guys.

00:05:08.000 Great to finally meet.

00:05:10.000 Been a long time coming, so let's roll this ball down the hill.

00:05:14.000 Indeed we shall.

00:05:14.000 Iamsurge.com.

00:05:16.000 Gonna be a fun one, guys.

00:05:17.000 Pleasure to meet you.

00:05:18.000 Here's the big news today.

00:05:20.000 We're all waiting eagerly to hear about the potential indictments.

00:05:24.000 It was presumed that Trump would be indicted on something related to January 6th, but instead, this is the most ironic and hilarious thing.

00:05:31.000 The Daily Mail reports, Trump accused of trying to delete the Mar-a-Lago server and wipe surveillance footage in bombshell new indictment.

00:05:39.000 Ex-president hit with more charges and head of club's maintenance is also implicated in classified documents case.

00:05:46.000 The long story short of it, Trump apparently told some guy he wanted, uh, they say, the former president allegedly told aides to wipe security footage from his Florida club server as a way to foil investigators probing the removal of classified documents from the White House.

00:06:00.000 See, that's an opinion statement.

00:06:02.000 They're making an accusation.

00:06:03.000 Just because Trump wanted a server with security footage wiped doesn't mean he intended to commit a crime by doing so.

00:06:08.000 He could've just been like, oh, we're gonna do a routine, like, wipe of the servers.

00:06:12.000 But I digress.

00:06:13.000 Carlos D. Oliveira, Mar-a-Lago's head of maintenance, has been named as the third defendant alongside the former president and his valet, Walt Nauta.

00:06:22.000 Both developments present additional legal jeopardy for the former president, who spent a part of Thursday, blah, blah, blah.

00:06:27.000 Just imagine this.

00:06:28.000 Imagine this.

00:06:30.000 It's been years since they outright said they will not indict Hillary Clinton for actually deleting public record, for having phones smashed with hammers.

00:06:40.000 So you're sitting there as Trump and you're like, we're totally allowed to do this.

00:06:43.000 Comey himself said it.

00:06:45.000 Okay, well, you know, wipe the server, I guess.

00:06:47.000 Now they got you.

00:06:47.000 Ah, nope!

00:06:48.000 Now you're going to be criminally charged and arrested.

00:06:50.000 Sounds like they're having, it actually feels like they're having fun, that they are like, you know, let's just get him.

00:06:55.000 Let's get Trump on what Hillary didn't get on. 1.00

00:06:58.000 It'll be just, just, just desserts for Donald Trump.

00:07:02.000 I don't know if that's true.

00:07:03.000 It's hard for me not to look at it and think, you know, now that they're arresting his head of maintenance and his ally, they're trying to make him feel guilty for putting regular people in harm's way.

00:07:11.000 Like they are trying everything to get him to take a plea deal to sort of bow down to this.

00:07:16.000 It seems kind of sick.

00:07:19.000 Man, I just was thinking of Hillary when Donald Trump was on stage with her and he was like, you'd be, if I was president, you'd be in jail.

00:07:25.000 They just, you never forget.

00:07:26.000 They never forget.

00:07:26.000 It's one of the best debate moments in modern history.

00:07:29.000 I think that's the reason why they're trying to put him in jail right now because they're like, you do not do that to the Democratic Party in public.

00:07:35.000 You do not say those things directly to Hillary Clinton in public unless you want to face the wrath is what this feels like.

00:07:40.000 I mean, Republicans sit around doing nothing, and Democrats are lobbying Molotov cocktails figuratively and literally.

00:07:50.000 In New York, they quite literally did, and now they're trying to arrest Republican electors, they're charging them with felonies, they're indicting Trump again, they're going after his maintenance guy!

00:08:00.000 It just kind of feels like the Republican Party is sitting there going, oh no.

00:08:04.000 Or they're in on it.

00:08:06.000 Well, what can they do?

00:08:09.000 Republicans?

00:08:10.000 Exactly.

00:08:10.000 So in, say, a Republican state like West Virginia, where you have Republican DAs, they can start criminally charging Democrats.

00:08:16.000 They can say, hey, hold on there a minute.

00:08:18.000 You just fight, fight fire.

00:08:20.000 I mean, is it fighting fire with fire?

00:08:21.000 I mean, is there, when it comes to, say, like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, do any of the crimes they've committed extend to the jurisdiction of these conservative or Republican, or even in some cases, like Republican libertarian counties or districts?

00:08:37.000 The answer is, of course, yes, absolutely.

00:08:40.000 Joe Biden, for instance, there was already talk from Republicans about potentially bringing charges against Joe Biden because if he's operating out of certain territories or certain areas, I mean, a lot of these people have property in Florida, right?

00:08:51.000 Ron DeSantis and the Florida DAs could be going after people, but not a single, not a single DA, not a single Republican anywhere has come up with any reason or has found any crime committed.

00:09:03.000 But they are, they're like, isn't Congress about to impeach Biden?

00:09:07.000 So they're kind of throwing back.

00:09:07.000 No.

00:09:08.000 They're not.

00:09:09.000 No.

00:09:09.000 They're not?

00:09:10.000 Did they say that?

00:09:11.000 Kevin McCarthy said this may reach the level of an impeachment inquiry.

00:09:15.000 Okay.

00:09:17.000 I just heard that like two days ago.

00:09:19.000 And they say these things so that you hear they're going to impeach Biden.

00:09:24.000 When what he actually said is, we might Ask the question, should Biden be impeached?

00:09:29.000 We might think about it.

00:09:32.000 They're not even asking, should Biden be impeached.

00:09:35.000 They're saying, if this keeps happening, we might have to ask each other if this reaches a level of impeachment.

00:09:40.000 I mean, I think you asked a good question.

00:09:41.000 What do we do?

00:09:42.000 Or what do people do in general?

00:09:43.000 How do you fight back against the machine?

00:09:46.000 Well, it's the judicial system, right?

00:09:49.000 You would think so, but then I see Sam Baikman Freed released today from his charge, and he's walking out.

00:09:54.000 He has his $10 billion scam, and he's going free.

00:09:58.000 Hillary Clinton didn't get charged for her emails. 1.00

00:10:00.000 James Comey said she did nothing wrong.

00:10:01.000 Hunter Biden had a pat on the wrist.

00:10:03.000 Of course, that may be no longer the case with some of the charges maybe being put back on the table.

00:10:08.000 But it feels like using the legal system to disrupt the people that are at the top of the legal system isn't the best method.

00:10:15.000 So how do we?

00:10:16.000 How do?

00:10:16.000 I mean, I like to make culture.

00:10:17.000 Building culture.

00:10:19.000 So yeah, yeah.

00:10:20.000 Well, we went through this because we were sued by Disney and we learned pretty quickly that fighting the lawsuit with Disney in Los Angeles is not a place you want to be.

00:10:31.000 So we were handed all kinds of crazy, crazy, like our trial, for example, We had someone who was going to come testify from Google that we had gone to work with Google to try to get licensing to be able to skip stuff in TV shows and movies.

00:10:50.000 And the judge said last minute, this person can't testify.

00:10:54.000 The morning of, right?

00:10:55.000 And those decisions are decided 30 days in advance.

00:10:55.000 Morning of.

00:10:58.000 Yep.

00:10:59.000 And then after that, the judge lets Disney testify Google's motives with their expert.

00:11:06.000 So crazy, crazy stuff.

00:11:09.000 And so we just decided we've got to get out of court as fast as we possibly can and fight in the marketplace.

00:11:15.000 That's one place where we feel like we still can fight.

00:11:18.000 And we settled in 2020.

00:11:21.000 And our company, you know, when we were sued, we did like $8 million.

00:11:28.000 And here we are, and we have a formerly Disney film that is winning in the market!

00:11:34.000 130 million?

00:11:35.000 People that don't know about your lawsuit, did you really quickly explain what was the lawsuit or what's public about it?

00:11:40.000 So the way that we started Angel Studios, 10 years ago, four brothers and a cousin, we had young kids.

00:11:48.000 Like nine and under. 0.74

00:11:49.000 And we wanted to watch really great, compelling stories, but have them match values.

00:11:54.000 Like my nine-year-old, I didn't want him to go and speak to his sisters in certain ways when they were young.

00:12:01.000 And so we created this technology that would allow you to skip.

00:12:04.000 You know, skip certain language, or skip nudity, or whatever.

00:12:08.000 And we thought, if we launch this technology, we're going to collect a group of people who care about storytelling and care about family, and then we'll be able to distribute new stories to these people better than Hollywood can.

00:12:22.000 So that was the original vision.

00:12:24.000 So we built the filtering technology, the skipping technology, Uh, 2016 it started to succeed and then we got sued and then, uh, 2020 we settled and then we pivoted to during that lawsuit, we pivoted to creating our own stories.

00:12:41.000 You, you said you settled for 8 million.

00:12:42.000 Is that what you said?

00:12:43.000 It was like 7.8.

00:12:44.000 Uh, uh, uh, so it was a 62 and a half million dollar, um, judgment.

00:12:51.000 And they basically said, we'll forgive that if you'll pay for some of our legal fees.

00:12:55.000 And, uh, and we settled in 2020.

00:12:56.000 So our thought process was.

00:12:59.000 After fighting for four and a half years, and Disney had probably spent, they'd spent tens of millions of dollars trying to destroy Angel, and we had spent millions of dollars trying to fight back.

00:13:12.000 It was just, we got to get out of their game.

00:13:14.000 We can't fight inside of the system.

00:13:18.000 Well, and they cannot spend you.

00:13:19.000 That's one of the challenges in the legal system.

00:13:21.000 And the whole entire Hollywood system knows that this downtown LA court, they call it the bank.

00:13:27.000 It's called the bank because you can just take anybody there and get money out if you're a Hollywood studio.

00:13:37.000 We actually got hit really hard by Disney and so there was this moment where you're just realizing you can't fight them on their ground.

00:13:46.000 We just got to opt out of this system and build an entire parallel studio system to the current Hollywood system or else we

00:13:57.000 can't we can't rise up through their system. So how did you so people don't know

00:14:01.000 you guys the Harmon Brothers do commercial work too you guys have done a

00:14:04.000 lot of like the squatty potty stuff you did the rainbow poop coming out of 1.00

00:14:08.000 the unicorn commercial iconic. So did you take your like private money 0.81

00:14:12.000 and then you were able to rebuild after the settlement or like how did you

00:14:16.000 come back from it Because I think a lot of people might think you get grounded to dust just going through that.

00:14:20.000 We almost did.

00:14:22.000 Yeah, and we don't know of a startup that has survived from a Disney lawsuit, so we feel very grateful.

00:14:28.000 But one thing that happened is we had two major successes while we were in bankruptcy going through the lawsuit.

00:14:35.000 Dry bar comedy which gets over a billion views a year.

00:14:38.000 It's stand-up comedy.

00:14:39.000 That's funny for everyone And then the chosen which is like a top 5 TV series and we just started growing like crazy during this lawsuit and and then Disney and and and then we had a trustee during the bankruptcy who was in charge of her company and We had to file bankruptcy to protect us from Disney.

00:15:01.000 Chapter 11 Bankruptcy has this format where you can actually use it as a shield against a predator.

00:15:07.000 So we used bankruptcy to protect us from Disney.

00:15:14.000 As soon as the trustees saw how fast we were growing with this parallel system that we were building, he said to the judge, these guys are going to be able to pay off the entire $62 million.

00:15:25.000 And Disney said, wait, wait a second.

00:15:28.000 We actually don't want to be paid back.

00:15:30.000 Just put them into Chapter 7.

00:15:32.000 Yeah, just put them into Chapter 7.

00:15:33.000 And the judge is like, oh, you guys aren't acting in your own financial interest.

00:15:37.000 I can't trust you anymore.

00:15:38.000 Why didn't they want to be paid back?

00:15:41.000 Because they wanted us dead.

00:15:44.000 Chapter 7 is liquidation.

00:15:45.000 They wanted all our assets sold off.

00:15:47.000 They wanted the judge to say, you don't have $62 million today, so sell everything off, and then we get what's left.

00:15:55.000 But the trustee said, no, these guys are growing so fast, they're going to be able to pay off this whole $62 million.

00:16:00.000 I just need a plan, plus interest.

00:16:03.000 And Disney's like, no, that's not what we want.

00:16:05.000 He's like, no, thank you.

00:16:09.000 No, we don't want to be paid off.

00:16:10.000 And the judge is like, why?

00:16:12.000 The whole point of chapter 11 bankruptcy or chapter seven is you're supposed to want to get paid back, not just destroy a company.

00:16:22.000 And so he said, I'm not going to let you do that.

00:16:24.000 And then he threw it out or what?

00:16:25.000 No, no, no.

00:16:26.000 Then Disney said, no, OK, we'll settle.

00:16:28.000 If you guys won't ever use your technology to filter our stuff again, we'll forgive the $62 million you guys pay.

00:16:36.000 Part of our legal fees.

00:16:37.000 Part of the legal fees.

00:16:38.000 And we'll call it good.

00:16:42.000 Like Jeffrey said, we have 100,000 people who have invested who helped make the content decisions.

00:16:48.000 We went to our investors and we said, guys, we told you we'd fight this all the way.

00:16:52.000 We have this chance that we can just go after original storytelling.

00:16:56.000 Instead of skipping over Hollywood stuff, we make our own stuff, we tell our own stories, and we control those stories.

00:17:01.000 What do you guys want to do?

00:17:02.000 Do you want to fight this all the way?

00:17:04.000 Or do you want to tell our own stories?

00:17:05.000 And 84% of our people said, let's just go tell the stories.

00:17:09.000 And then we offered to buy out the rest of them.

00:17:11.000 Did you get inspired during the court process to start your own storytelling?

00:17:16.000 So actually, we thought about doing our own storytelling at the beginning.

00:17:21.000 That's the only reason Jeffrey's involved.

00:17:22.000 Yeah, I told Neil when he came to me, Neil and Jordan came to me, and they were like, let's build this system that skips and mutes content in movies.

00:17:31.000 And I was like, that happened a while back.

00:17:34.000 And everybody, there's like 14 companies that did this, and every single one got sued out of existence.

00:17:38.000 What's the grounds for suing?

00:17:40.000 It's copyright.

00:17:42.000 There's copyright arguments.

00:17:43.000 But it seems weird, because if I had a movie on at home and I skipped it, that's not copyright.

00:17:47.000 But if you have a technology that does it... It's because the technology uses... There's a law called the Family Movie Act of 2005 that allows you to skip and mute content that's transmitted.

00:17:58.000 over the internet.

00:17:58.000 We read that and said, that means as long as the customers bought the content... And as long as they make the choices.

00:18:04.000 Then, as long as they're making the choices, then we can provide technology to skip and mute content.

00:18:10.000 Disney came in and said, no, the DMCA, you're decrypting... Neil can explain it better.

00:18:18.000 I think the best way to explain it was this.

00:18:20.000 The Ninth Circuit basically said, we see vidangel's argument.

00:18:25.000 Yeah, our company at the time was called VidAngel.

00:18:25.000 That was your company.

00:18:28.000 That sounds like a good thing.

00:18:29.000 We see it.

00:18:30.000 This is a novel interpretation of the law.

00:18:32.000 We also see Disney's argument.

00:18:34.000 And it just so happens if we go with VidAngel's, there's a big hole in copyright law.

00:18:39.000 Yeah.

00:18:39.000 So we can't do that.

00:18:40.000 We're going to go with Disney.

00:18:42.000 And we're like, wait a second, the Family Movie Act was like an exemption under the copyright law.

00:18:47.000 You know, that's what they mean.

00:18:47.000 Why?

00:18:49.000 It is a whole.

00:18:49.000 It's designed to be an exemption.

00:18:51.000 But we weren't going to win in that court.

00:18:55.000 We weren't going to win in that system.

00:18:56.000 What if you open source technology and just release it to the wind?

00:19:02.000 We actually did set up a foundation in the middle of the lawsuit and announced that, and Disney came screaming to the courts and saying that they needed to seize the company from us before we let any assets out of the company.

00:19:17.000 Because that was ultimately... What's that?

00:19:19.000 Well, we were just asking the court if they would let us do it and Disney stopped it.

00:19:19.000 They stopped you from doing it?

00:19:24.000 Wait, so you're saying the technology, which seems completely honest in today's day and age... It's pretty simple.

00:19:31.000 Pretty simple.

00:19:32.000 Yeah.

00:19:33.000 is not available.

00:19:34.000 I mean, there's got to be open source versions of this.

00:19:36.000 So we settled and we sold VidAngel off and it still works.

00:19:41.000 It just doesn't work for Disney stuff.

00:19:43.000 It just does not work for Disney or Warner Brothers.

00:19:46.000 Two of the biggest producers of children's content that you would maybe want to use this for.

00:19:52.000 But it's doing well.

00:19:53.000 You can't run a plug-in on your own browser watching movies?

00:19:56.000 Is that what it is?

00:19:59.000 Yeah, so you can, but you can't do it with a modern streaming device.

00:20:04.000 So you can't do it through your iPad, you can't do it through your Roku, iPhone, all those things.

00:20:09.000 You can do it on a browser.

00:20:11.000 You can do it through a Chrome browser with an extension.

00:20:15.000 But you can't get it on an iPhone or something?

00:20:17.000 Because it would have to... Unless you... Any modern device you wouldn't be able to do it with.

00:20:17.000 Yeah.

00:20:21.000 I guess technically if you used Chrome on your phone to watch, which would not be as good as the streaming app, but I... Chrome on your phone doesn't support extensions.

00:20:30.000 Right.

00:20:31.000 So what you're saying is the thing that you made actually would go between an app?

00:20:36.000 Yeah, it would basically go, like if you have your Netflix account, you'd tie your Netflix account to VidAngel and it would go and it would be you.

00:20:45.000 You'd make your choices.

00:20:47.000 You'd say, oh, I want to skip nudity.

00:20:48.000 And then it would go up and it would, in the cloud, it would contact your Netflix account.

00:20:55.000 Get your Netflix stream, skip it and send it down to your iPhone or to your Roku or whatever.

00:21:01.000 And that's the only way it could be done on a modern streaming device.

00:21:05.000 And it was like 14% of the market is on a desktop and 86% of the market at the time was all on streaming devices.

00:21:15.000 So that's how we delivered the technology.

00:21:18.000 Well, I get it.

00:21:19.000 Yeah.

00:21:19.000 I get it.

00:21:20.000 When you guys settled and then you bounced, did you bounce out of California after that?

00:21:23.000 Are you still sticking around, Cali?

00:21:25.000 We're in Utah.

00:21:26.000 Okay.

00:21:27.000 So you were never based in California?

00:21:28.000 That's just where the lawsuit happened?

00:21:29.000 Yeah.

00:21:29.000 So what happened after you settled?

00:21:32.000 What was the impetus for the next generation of Harmon?

00:21:37.000 Of Angel Studios?

00:21:38.000 Yeah.

00:21:38.000 So after we settled, we bought Angel.com, and then we rebranded as Angel Studios, Angel being investor.

00:21:47.000 We had Drybar, we had The Chosen, and then we just started expanding.

00:21:53.000 Tuttle Twins, which you can see I'm sporting right here.

00:21:56.000 The Winged Feather Saga, which is fantasy.

00:21:58.000 Tuttle Twins is like a freedom education thing for kids.

00:22:00.000 From Ron Paul, right?

00:22:01.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 It's set in that world.

00:22:06.000 And then you've got Sound of Freedom now.

00:22:11.000 Which is fun, because we went through all this battle, and Fox was acquired by Disney during our lawsuit, and this parallel story was happening, and then we ended up with the rights to Sound of Freedom here in 2023.

00:22:22.000 Yeah, Fox paid for Sound of Freedom to get made, is that how it worked?

00:22:26.000 And then Disney bought them, so Disney owned it, and they were suing you when you bought it from them?

00:22:30.000 Or did you wait till after the lawsuit?

00:22:31.000 No, it was after the lawsuit.

00:22:32.000 And then you purchased it back.

00:22:34.000 Well, they actually, the team purchased it back, and then we licensed from, we became the distributor after that.

00:22:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:40.000 The team?

00:22:40.000 Who's the team?

00:22:41.000 Eduardo Verastegui, the producer.

00:22:42.000 Oh, he did, straight up.

00:22:43.000 Did he raise money?

00:22:44.000 I don't know if that's public data.

00:22:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:47.000 And he worked with Disney for like a year and a half trying to get it, to negotiate to get it out of there.

00:22:52.000 I love this.

00:22:53.000 Fox News, you know, very QAnon.

00:22:57.000 20th Century Fox, right?

00:22:58.000 Yeah, we mentioned this earlier that we have this article from Vox.com.

00:23:02.000 Take a look.

00:23:02.000 This is from like two weeks ago.

00:23:05.000 Sound of Freedom wants to raise awareness about child trafficking.

00:23:07.000 Here's what it's really doing.

00:23:09.000 Oh, what it's really doing.

00:23:10.000 I love this.

00:23:11.000 Let me just do a quick search.

00:23:12.000 You know, Fox used to be called F-O-Q-S.

00:23:13.000 Take a look.

00:23:14.000 It says, That extremism is at least as dark and dangerous as the very thing Sound of Freedom wants to combat.

00:23:22.000 The crazy thing about it is like, But Fox made it.

00:23:27.000 Well, Fox made it, and I compare it to Law & Order SVU.

00:23:31.000 There's no evil government actors snatching kids under their arms and running out of a pizza restaurant or anything like that.

00:23:38.000 It's a law enforcement story.

00:23:41.000 That Disney wanted at one point.

00:23:42.000 Right, yes.

00:23:42.000 When they wanted it, it wasn't extreme.

00:23:44.000 They bought it!

00:23:45.000 But when they don't have it anymore, it is extreme.

00:23:47.000 I mean, I think what you're doing with moving to sort of creating culture through the marketplace is really interesting.

00:23:51.000 In some ways, it reminds me of what Matt Gaetz did saying, you know, Jack Smith, the prosecutor that's investigating Trump, he just was like, well, you can't have any more money.

00:24:02.000 This isn't worth it.

00:24:03.000 This is this is craziness.

00:24:04.000 And I think in some way, really, that's ultimately I mean, we talk about a lot with like Public Square.

00:24:09.000 The dollar is one way to leverage power against this institution.

00:24:12.000 So internally, Republicans who are in Congress could theoretically cut off some of these investigations if they cut off DOJ funding.

00:24:19.000 And if you guys are able to say, like, we know people who are willing to spend money for entertainment that they feel represents them, and we make the entertainment, then we're able to circulate this money through people who have the values.

00:24:29.000 And I find that really interesting.

00:24:30.000 Well, we also learned, like, I went to CinemaCon this year.

00:24:34.000 CinemaCon is where all the studios come to Talk to the theaters.

00:24:40.000 So the exhibitors are the theaters and those are mainstream Americans.

00:24:44.000 These are 3,000 plus owners of theaters all across this country, and they're just normal, everyday, middle class Heartland Americans.

00:24:54.000 And so the studios come in, and at CinemaCon, it's the most bizarre experience, where you've got these middle American theater owners, and then you've got these studios that are coming out of their bubble, and then they're just trying to sell their content to the theater owners. 0.84

00:25:09.000 And so they're kind of like, Is there like a cultural difference?

00:25:21.000 There's an almost adversarial relationship, but at the same time they're sitting there whining and dining in the theaters trying to just say, okay, we have to work with you.

00:25:32.000 I was walking around with this shirt on, this angel shirt, and I couldn't make it down the hallway without five, six different theater owners just stopping and being like, Hey, they pull out a cross and they're like, I'm on your side.

00:25:48.000 Keep going.

00:25:50.000 I'm like, thank you.

00:25:52.000 But, but it's, it's, um, but the amount of support from the theaters made us realize there's just this realization.

00:26:02.000 As long as we can make it economically viable for alternative content to go to the theaters, they will pick that content, they'll support it.

00:26:14.000 And that's how the money's made.

00:26:15.000 Listen to this.

00:26:16.000 July 3rd, we had 2,634 theaters for Sound of Freedom.

00:26:21.000 July 7th, 2,852.

00:26:25.000 July 14th, 3,265.

00:26:28.000 July 21st, 2,285.

00:26:32.000 July 28th, it's coming tomorrow.

00:26:36.000 What day are we?

00:26:37.000 It's this Friday.

00:26:39.000 3,411.

00:26:40.000 This is like the first movie I've ever heard of that has expanded the number of theaters for four Fridays straight.

00:26:48.000 You may have misread the number.

00:26:49.000 I misheard you.

00:26:50.000 I thought the third number you read was a 2,000.

00:26:51.000 It was 3,285.

00:26:52.000 And then up to 36.

00:26:52.000 So it went from 3,265 to 85 to 3,411.

00:26:54.000 And then up to 36. So it went from 3,265 to 85 to 3,411.

00:27:02.000 I've noticed it, like, consciously, the way it's expanding, too.

00:27:05.000 Yes.

00:27:07.000 It's like caught fire.

00:27:08.000 Psychological fire.

00:27:09.000 Listen to this stat.

00:27:10.000 This is just on a Reddit thread.

00:27:13.000 Sound of Freedom has a shot at 27 straight days over $3 million.

00:27:17.000 Even Endgame didn't do that.

00:27:19.000 And I believe only a single-digit number of movies have done that.

00:27:23.000 Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

00:27:24.000 And everybody's like, Titanic didn't do it.

00:27:26.000 They made it only to 19 days.

00:27:28.000 I'd be interested to know what the record is.

00:27:31.000 That's just a Reddit thread.

00:27:32.000 Are tickets more expensive?

00:27:34.000 Because inflation obviously has got to be playing a role.

00:27:36.000 Sure, sure.

00:27:36.000 How much are they now?

00:27:38.000 So the average ticket price is like $11.80 or something like that?

00:27:42.000 Yeah, and if you go back to like Passion of the Christ, it was somewhere 7 or 8 bucks.

00:27:47.000 7 and change.

00:27:47.000 Sound of Freedom was number 2 for the July 14th to 20th.

00:27:52.000 Yes, yes.

00:27:53.000 And I think we've had four or five days that we've been number one.

00:27:58.000 But one other thing that's different is that they've refactored all the theaters to do these lounge chairs.

00:28:04.000 I love it.

00:28:05.000 That's what we had.

00:28:06.000 And so it's actually, it's changed.

00:28:07.000 Even though the ticket price has gone up, your actual number of seats are smaller.

00:28:11.000 And so it's kind of changed the economic environment of the theaters.

00:28:15.000 Sound of Freedom's got several days.

00:28:17.000 July 4th, it was number one.

00:28:19.000 July 10th and 11th was number one.

00:28:21.000 And July 20th, it was number one.

00:28:24.000 Yes.

00:28:24.000 Yeah.

00:28:25.000 It's amazing.

00:28:26.000 And growing.

00:28:27.000 You mentioned crowdfunding, because Angel Studios has a crowdfunding model.

00:28:27.000 Yes.

00:28:31.000 You see 100,000 Angel investors, they come in and they vote on one.

00:28:34.000 Do you ever find that that causes problems, like chaos within the structure of the organism?

00:28:41.000 So far, what we've seen is this incredible aptitude for choosing a hit.

00:28:49.000 Like, our very first theatrical release was called His Only Son.

00:28:54.000 It's this little $250,000 film.

00:28:56.000 Nobody would have guessed to take this film to theaters.

00:29:00.000 This is not the kind of film you'd take to theaters.

00:29:03.000 It doesn't have a big enough budget.

00:29:04.000 It doesn't have any named people.

00:29:06.000 First-time director.

00:29:06.000 It doesn't have a first-time director.

00:29:08.000 This film shouldn't have gone to theaters.

00:29:09.000 The main actor is from Lebanon.

00:29:10.000 The main actress is from Iran.

00:29:12.000 And the boy who plays Isaac, Abraham Isaac, he's from Israel.

00:29:18.000 There are just no namers.

00:29:20.000 But it did well?

00:29:20.000 But we got the Guild score and we're like, whoa!

00:29:23.000 Whoa.

00:29:24.000 And then we put it out there for crowdfunding and it raised $1.25 million in 100 hours.

00:29:29.000 And we were expecting to raise $400,000 in 30 days.

00:29:33.000 And we're just like, okay, we got to lean into this because what the guild is saying.

00:29:37.000 And then it hit number three in the box office against some huge, huge tentpoles.

00:29:41.000 But I would assume this is one of the things that maybe Hollywood is forgetting is important.

00:29:45.000 Like, you guys are talking to actual people who are interested in a movie who would put their money behind movies and saying, what do you want to see?

00:29:51.000 Whereas Hollywood has their own enclave of people and they're asking each other.

00:29:55.000 It's such an echo chamber.

00:29:57.000 How could you get accurate feedback on what a good movie would be?

00:30:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:01.000 You said the Guild?

00:30:02.000 Is the Guild the small percentage of the total crowdfunders?

00:30:07.000 Who's the Guild?

00:30:08.000 Anybody who has invested in a previous project can be a member of the Guild, and those guys are the ones who decide the future of Angel Productions.

00:30:16.000 There's about 100,000 people in the Angel Guild.

00:30:19.000 And the idea here is that they replace the Hollywood gatekeepers.

00:30:24.000 Hollywood's awesome.

00:30:25.000 All the creators, the craftsmen in Hollywood, they're great.

00:30:28.000 The gatekeepers are the problem.

00:30:30.000 And they're the ones who decide, like, it has to have this much... 0.86

00:30:34.000 diversity figure or this much LGBTQ has to have this much nudity, this many sex scenes, 1.00

00:30:43.000 whatever.

00:30:44.000 They're the ones just deciding these things for the content creators.

00:30:48.000 And so the filmmakers are, they kind of move either direction, but the gatekeepers are

00:30:55.000 holding the grounds.

00:30:57.000 And so the, the angel guild is a replacement of the Hollywood gatekeepers.

00:31:00.000 And so we get 60 filmmakers a week submitting to angel studios.

00:31:05.000 And then these, the guild goes through and votes on that content and about 95% of it fails and 5% gets through.

00:31:16.000 To the next step.

00:31:17.000 Yeah, to the next step.

00:31:18.000 When someone submits, they submit, oh yeah, The Torch?

00:31:20.000 The Torch, yeah.

00:31:21.000 So they'll submit like a five minute short film?

00:31:24.000 Or in the case of Sound of Freedom, they submitted the entire film.

00:31:28.000 Right.

00:31:29.000 Okay.

00:31:30.000 His only son.

00:31:30.000 Anything that's going to theaters has to be the whole film.

00:31:32.000 Anecdotally, before the show, you guys were telling me The Torch you call is like this prototype five minute piece or whatever, full film.

00:31:38.000 So technically, Sound of Freedom was a torch.

00:31:39.000 It's from the Statue of Liberty's torch.

00:31:41.000 I didn't know that the Statue of Liberty was crowdfunded.

00:31:43.000 Yes.

00:31:44.000 By French people?

00:31:45.000 Yes.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, so Frederick Bartaldi couldn't get any governments to fund the Statue of Liberty, and he had this dream of creating the biggest piece of art.

00:31:56.000 And we all know artists will try to get their budget from wherever they can.

00:31:59.000 Yes, that's right.

00:32:00.000 They'll go anywhere to get their budget, but he wanted to create the biggest piece of art around the biggest idea in the world.

00:32:06.000 Then he first tried the Suez Canal before he'd visited America and he got shot down.

00:32:12.000 He visits America and he decides this is the biggest idea.

00:32:15.000 America is.

00:32:16.000 So he goes back, he gets the President of the United States to say, I think that's a great idea.

00:32:21.000 Takes back a letter because the President didn't offer him any money.

00:32:23.000 I mean, even the Washington Monument was crowdfunded.

00:32:26.000 I don't know if you knew that.

00:32:27.000 Because the government wouldn't pay for stuff like that back then.

00:32:30.000 My times have changed.

00:32:32.000 They had principles.

00:32:36.000 So he goes back to France and he raises just enough money to build the torch and the hand.

00:32:42.000 And he sets it up in the parks and he takes people up in the top of the torch and he takes black and white pictures of them.

00:32:50.000 There's a whole bunch of them online.

00:32:51.000 You can see these black and white pictures of this torch.

00:32:53.000 And he raised $14 million in today's money over a decade.

00:32:58.000 He'd give out little pins, little things.

00:33:00.000 It was the first Kickstarter campaign.

00:33:01.000 Yes.

00:33:02.000 First crowdfunding campaign.

00:33:04.000 And he spends a decade, and he builds it.

00:33:06.000 So we just modeled the entire brand of our company as we have Torches, which are the filmmakers.

00:33:13.000 A lot of like roads, you're really worried about the roads?

00:33:15.000 called the torch awards where we actually give away a copper replica of

00:33:20.000 the torch of the Statue of Liberty to filmmakers so there's um yeah we the

00:33:25.000 ideas around the original crowdfunding campaign I think a lot of the problems

00:33:28.000 in today's society could be solved with crowdfunding a lot of like roads you

00:33:31.000 really worried about the roads don't wait for the government you know set up

00:33:34.000 but we just need maybe some organization for it like an app or something where

00:33:37.000 you can like locally yeah some tip yeah Yeah, and what happens is as soon as you engage the crowd, like when we raise, the smartest money we can raise for advertising is from the crowd because everybody comes in, they maybe throw 50 bucks at it or 20 bucks or whatever, and then they go out and they bring it, drag all their neighbors into the theaters.

00:33:59.000 So if you get 7,000, 10,000 people crowdfunding a project, You've got an army of 10,000 people out dragging everybody they know into those theaters to try to make that movie profitable.

00:34:12.000 Of the 100,000 angel investors that you currently have, do they all invest in every movie?

00:34:17.000 No.

00:34:17.000 No, they don't all invest.

00:34:19.000 Every single movie we bring on a giant chunk of new people, over half.

00:34:24.000 How do people sign up to invest?

00:34:26.000 Invest.angel.com is where the different projects go up to raise money.

00:34:33.000 And there's a link there at angel.com.

00:34:36.000 Is it the same way for writers and stuff that want to submit, like as if you need more, another thousand submissions?

00:34:42.000 So we're not currently set up to take scripts.

00:34:47.000 We only can take torches, like only projects that show a vision for what you're trying to create.

00:34:57.000 There's also a link on there for the Angel Accelerator Fund, and they actually partner with some filmmakers to help create torches.

00:35:08.000 What's it called?

00:35:09.000 The Angel Accelerator Fund.

00:35:11.000 And they'll help people that don't have money but have a great idea or like a really great script?

00:35:15.000 They're gonna have to bring their own money. 0.97

00:35:17.000 Like, they match Torch.

00:35:18.000 Like, if a Torch cost $100,000, they might put up $50,000 and then the filmmaker would have to bring $50,000.

00:35:26.000 Let's talk about winning the culture war.

00:35:28.000 So, I think one of the reasons Sound of Freedom is so important is making $130 million several days at number one, proving that outside, as you mentioned, the gatekeepers, there is a path towards success.

00:35:44.000 Younger people need to be able to look at the stuff that we're creating and say, there is another way to succeed.

00:35:50.000 You don't have to go through the corrupt machine.

00:35:53.000 We have this news story that I think plays into this.

00:35:55.000 Bud Light Brewery is laying off hundreds of U.S.

00:35:58.000 workers.

00:35:59.000 Well, I'm kind of sad for these people, but at the same time, if you've been working at Bud Light, where over the past four months this controversy has been going on, you had to know this was coming.

00:36:08.000 Not only that, but several bottling plants had already laid off hundreds of people.

00:36:12.000 So, y'all should, look, if you work for Bud Light, I would only say, I am personally, I would be surprised if you were not trying to find another job because they are firing people.

00:36:24.000 But this is a sign that the old guard and the gatekeepers are failing, they are losing out, get woke, go broke, and we're starting to see the inverse.

00:36:33.000 With Sound of Freedom, for instance.

00:36:36.000 There is an inverse to Get Woke, Go Broke starting to emerge, and that is, Don't Be Woke, Make Money.

00:36:41.000 Or however you'd phrase it.

00:36:42.000 I don't know, someone come up with something catchier.

00:36:43.000 Stay based, get laced!

00:36:49.000 Get paid?

00:36:50.000 I don't know.

00:36:52.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:36:53.000 We'll let the chat take care of it.

00:36:55.000 Guys, think of something that's the inverse of this, because...

00:37:00.000 This is what we're seeing.

00:37:01.000 Now, we were just talking about, you know, Donald Trump is getting indicted, and I was saying this earlier.

00:37:05.000 People are like, what do we do?

00:37:07.000 How do we win?

00:37:08.000 We're watching this corruption.

00:37:09.000 I'm like, they're going the wrong route.

00:37:11.000 Going this procedural route to try and win a culture war is a losing battle, and we should all know this because it's what Republicans were doing in 2016.

00:37:20.000 Democrats were going to the media.

00:37:22.000 They were going to TV. 0.99

00:37:22.000 They were lying, cheating, and stealing. 0.99

00:37:24.000 They were pushing false narratives, Russiagate, etc.

00:37:26.000 to shape the minds of individuals in this country.

00:37:29.000 They controlled institutions.

00:37:31.000 They were censoring information on media.

00:37:32.000 They knew culture comes first, then politics.

00:37:36.000 Now what do you have?

00:37:37.000 You have the Biden DOJ protecting Hunter Biden with this insane plea agreement they tried giving him, indicting Donald Trump again, and we got SBF getting his charges dropped.

00:37:47.000 Not all of them, but how convenient.

00:37:49.000 You give Democrats money, you don't go to jail, I guess.

00:37:52.000 But I don't think that's going to play very well because if the influence that is generated in culture is coming from the likes of Angel Studios, if the products they're buying are no longer Bud Light, if they're not watching Fox News even, or CNN anymore, they're coming to other places.

00:38:07.000 Yeah, it's not like they just stopped.

00:38:09.000 Right, exactly.

00:38:10.000 They're going somewhere else.

00:38:11.000 Exactly.

00:38:11.000 And that means, eventually, Democrats aren't going to be able to pull this stuff off.

00:38:16.000 They're going to slowly start losing political power because they're trying to win by writing laws or utilizing government, which I've been saying a long time, doesn't work.

00:38:25.000 Republicans keep trying to do that, doesn't work.

00:38:28.000 Great example?

00:38:29.000 You've got, on the books, laws preventing adults from engaging in lewd and lascivious acts with children.

00:38:35.000 These laws have been on the books forever.

00:38:37.000 West Virginia, for instance, has it plain as day.

00:38:39.000 Yet, the police allow children to be part of lewd and lascivious shows at adult venues, child drag performances, all-ages drag shows that are explicit.

00:38:48.000 Because the law has to be enforced.

00:38:50.000 The police won't enforce it, though, because of the culture.

00:38:52.000 Because we're at a point, or we were, where you have this show where it's not going to lick itself and there's kids there and the cops go, I'm not getting involved in this.

00:39:03.000 Even though it is illegal, discernibly codified, the cops won't do anything about it because the culture is fractured and there's no clear winner.

00:39:12.000 The police are only going to do what they think the majority would support.

00:39:15.000 If Sound of Freedom is winning, if Angel Studios is winning, if shows like ours, if Cast Brew Coffee is winning, if Bud Light is failing, eventually people are gonna say, I'm here to be on the winning side.

00:39:25.000 Law enforcement's gonna come out and be like, we're gonna go arrest the person breaking the law.

00:39:29.000 It's illegal for women, unmarried women, to skydive in Florida on Sunday.

00:39:33.000 Is a cop going to arrest a woman who skydives on Sunday?

00:39:36.000 Of course not.

00:39:37.000 Why?

00:39:37.000 It's illegal.

00:39:38.000 Because the law actually doesn't matter.

00:39:40.000 What matters is what police are willing to enforce.

00:39:43.000 So if we win the culture war, No, I think it's true. 1.00

00:39:51.000 I mean, the part of government is the consent of the people, right?

00:39:56.000 So if you disagree with law, not only can you fight it, but also your town can start to say, like, this doesn't make sense.

00:40:01.000 I mean, there are all kinds of old laws in the books.

00:40:04.000 The skydiving in Florida one might be an example.

00:40:07.000 Of things that we would not allow or accept.

00:40:09.000 I believe there's a town in Connecticut where your husband's allowed to beat his wife on the town hall steps during the day and that never got repealed.

00:40:19.000 It's just there.

00:40:20.000 Now if this happened we would all be appalled.

00:40:22.000 Like we know some things are wrong and I can't say why that one was on the books ever but so much of what we do is just I'm choosing to say, like, I'm not going to give in to this anymore.

00:40:33.000 And again, I think it's important to go back to the fact that for a long time, you know, you'd get these things, companies doing something you didn't agree with, but there were no alternatives, right?

00:40:41.000 Like, I remember, I can't even remember, like, if you wanted to boycott a shoe company, well, that shoe company is also owned by this company that's also doing this.

00:40:50.000 And like, we saw this a little bit with Bud Light that, you know, some people were like, well, I'll buy this one.

00:40:55.000 And it actually is all under the Anheuser-Busch umbrella.

00:40:58.000 So maybe we give credit to the internet here for being active and alerting people to sort of the network of companies.

00:41:03.000 But it is really interesting to see people actively seeking out change and reviewing like what they're being told to do and saying, I don't want to anymore.

00:41:12.000 I think it happens.

00:41:13.000 It doesn't happen at once, too.

00:41:14.000 It'll happen like probably like a seven year lag.

00:41:17.000 You make a movie that changes like a nine year old's mind.

00:41:20.000 And then when they're 16, that's when the power begins to shift.

00:41:23.000 Yes.

00:41:24.000 Absolutely.

00:41:24.000 Do you guys see that with your own kids?

00:41:25.000 Well, yeah, totally.

00:41:27.000 And that's the reason that we started this is because we could see that this was a long game, right?

00:41:34.000 Like, the way that we were going to actually change the world for our children and for their children.

00:41:42.000 was not by going and coming here to D.C.

00:41:45.000 and lobbying and fighting over red and blue politics, but it was just in our home with our kids, telling really great stories that helped them understand true principles.

00:41:56.000 When the Dark Knight Rises came out, I was at CPAC that year or something around there, and I remember sitting in on this panel discussion and them saying, you know, if you're conservative and you want your children who are interested in politics to make a difference, you actually shouldn't send them to UC, you should send them to Hollywood.

00:42:11.000 And I wish I could give credit to whoever said that.

00:42:12.000 I've forgotten the panelist's name at this point.

00:42:14.000 But it's interesting because they're basically making the point 10 years ago and you guys said Angel was founded in 2013 that you guys ultimately proved which is like if you want to redirect culture you need people who have those values in a position to make that content.

00:42:29.000 I mean it's we know a lot of people who are creative and who have ideas but I don't remember who was on the show talking about the infrastructure behind movie production, all the things you need to rent and the film equipment.

00:42:38.000 There has to be stepping stones to build this and ultimately you guys have proven redirecting the energy is the important thing.

00:42:45.000 And Steve Jobs says that the most powerful person in the world is a storyteller.

00:42:49.000 He's famous for that statement.

00:42:52.000 You can see this with Sound of Freedom.

00:42:54.000 Alejandro Monteverde goes and Mexican guy, grew up, was affected by cartels.

00:43:01.000 His dad and his brother were murdered.

00:43:04.000 Murdered by a cartel.

00:43:05.000 And he builds this movie and this story to help unite and to fight this issue.

00:43:12.000 And Neil was just telling me last night that some bill in what state was it?

00:43:17.000 I think it was Wisconsin.

00:43:18.000 Wisconsin or something?

00:43:19.000 Like a local legislator put up a bill that's called the Sound of Freedom Bill and they're changing laws because of this film.

00:43:29.000 There was a law enforcement officer down in Texas who, after watching the film, started classes in their community and they're teaching teenage girls what signs to look for, how pedophiles attack through social media.

00:43:45.000 Those classes are happening all over.

00:43:47.000 Classic QAnon right-wing extremism.

00:43:51.000 Protect your family, yeah.

00:43:54.000 Look out for predators!

00:43:55.000 Crazy stuff!

00:43:56.000 They showed it at Congress, I think, Sound of Freedom, yesterday, is it?

00:43:59.000 Yeah, Tuesday night.

00:44:00.000 Both sides showed up.

00:44:02.000 Donald Trump made a comment that he wants to give traffickers the death penalty, women as well as men.

00:44:09.000 That's Donald's idea.

00:44:11.000 Yeah, I was like, jeez, why does he keep jumping to the death penalty? 0.99

00:44:15.000 I don't want to derail if you guys don't want to talk about Big D. Look, traffickers, people that rape kids and sell them probably deserve death.

00:44:27.000 But the death penalty, I think the statistics are, they get it wrong like 4% of the time. 0.95

00:44:32.000 Too much?

00:44:32.000 4 out of 100 people are innocent.

00:44:35.000 And so it's not a practical solution, in my opinion.

00:44:38.000 I completely agree.

00:44:39.000 That's my opinion.

00:44:41.000 I believe they deserve it, but you can't practically make that happen without... Like if you were trying to protect a kid who is about to be attacked by someone, use whatever force you can to save the life of that child from the person committing the crime, right?

00:44:57.000 If we've captured someone and Kamala Harris walks up to me and says, see that guy over there? 0.98

00:45:02.000 He deserves death. 0.99

00:45:03.000 I'm going to be like, I don't trust you, lady. 1.00

00:45:04.000 I mean, that guy may be evil for sure, but man, I'm not going to sign off on Kamala Harris's request.

00:45:10.000 I know she's the worst example I can think of.

00:45:13.000 You know, when it comes to who would be advocating for the death penalty.

00:45:16.000 Right, but once the power's there, you gotta think of the worst person.

00:45:19.000 It's gonna be her!

00:45:19.000 Right!

00:45:20.000 Now granted, I am grateful that Trump is entering the discussion.

00:45:23.000 It shows how powerful this movie has been that Donald Trump is entering that discussion and participating.

00:45:30.000 And he had his own screening, right?

00:45:31.000 Yeah, but I mean, we've got, you wouldn't believe, like, it's not just Republicans that are asking for screeners of this movie.

00:45:39.000 Like, everybody's asking for screenings.

00:45:45.000 There are leftist publications that are saying QAnon and stuff, The Guardian did it, but the corporate press critic reviews are still, what, like 75% or better?

00:45:53.000 Yeah, I think it's down to 70% now.

00:45:55.000 It just slowly gets chipped away at, but there are people on both sides of the aisle that are very powerful, and state leaders all over the world, asking For example, tomorrow we're flying to El Salvador, and we are meeting with Bukele to premiere the film.

00:46:17.000 Oh, that's fantastic!

00:46:18.000 He's great!

00:46:19.000 He's public, I can say that one.

00:46:20.000 Who else?

00:46:21.000 Name them all!

00:46:23.000 You would be amazed, and I'm hoping that some of them, when they watch it, because they're watching it to see... Not that they're going to be on this live stream, but if they are, or somebody who is, we are hoping that one of them will Come out!

00:46:37.000 Speak up!

00:46:39.000 Just stop this ridiculousness.

00:46:42.000 Everybody who's seen this movie knows it has nothing to do with politics and it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories.

00:46:47.000 It should be the most bipartisan issue, stopping child trafficking.

00:46:50.000 It's just a true story.

00:46:51.000 But this is what I keep saying.

00:46:52.000 Law and Order SVU is on the air for 20 some odd years.

00:46:55.000 I think it's still on the air, right?

00:46:56.000 Oh yeah.

00:46:57.000 It's a very, very popular show about law enforcement trying to protect victims of sexual abuse.

00:47:01.000 You guys acquired a movie and distributed it, and they're so desperate to attack it, it's insane.

00:47:07.000 Yeah, but I think you're hitting a point here, and Russell Brand, when he covered Sound of Freedom, he covers this point.

00:47:12.000 I'm just racking my mind.

00:47:16.000 Why on earth is the left attacking this so hard, specifically the left?

00:47:21.000 And I came up with four theories.

00:47:23.000 The first one is Russell Brands, which I didn't come up with.

00:47:26.000 He came up with it.

00:47:26.000 He just said, this is a model coming out of left field.

00:47:29.000 It's completely bypassing all the Hollywood gatekeepers.

00:47:32.000 They hate it.

00:47:33.000 And they hate it so much that they hate this model and the fact they can't control it because they have their oligopoly.

00:47:39.000 That they would rather attack the model with these conspiracy theories and just forget about the fact that the message.

00:47:47.000 Number two, there's groups of people who are so partisan that when the dog whistles come out, they just say, uh, my team's on this side.

00:47:55.000 So therefore I can't watch it.

00:47:56.000 Yeah.

00:47:56.000 There's a cognitive dissonance where they're not weighing.

00:47:59.000 This is millions of kids being trafficked versus my partisan politics.

00:48:04.000 So I'll address that, right?

00:48:06.000 Many people complain about Chris Evans' politics.

00:48:08.000 Because he goes on Twitter and he says woke stuff.

00:48:10.000 He's in the movie Knives Out.

00:48:12.000 I can separate art from the artist.

00:48:14.000 I thought Knives Out was great.

00:48:15.000 I think Ryan Johnson also has questionable statements.

00:48:18.000 But I thought Knives Out was good.

00:48:22.000 I actually liked how he incorporated the politics into it.

00:48:25.000 These tribalists you're referring to can't seem to do that.

00:48:28.000 They can't do it.

00:48:28.000 They can't separate it.

00:48:29.000 And then the third one is where you get a little more controversial, but it's like, you've got $150 billion industry.

00:48:37.000 There's cartels that are child trafficking cartels, and they've got their talking points.

00:48:41.000 And the journalists are inadvertently grabbing these talking points, probably because of one or two, but they're grabbing cartel talking points to try to downplay how significant of a problem this is.

00:48:52.000 And number four is, they're just all in it.

00:48:58.000 They're all in it together.

00:48:58.000 And so probably as Russell Brands got it first and it cascades down to the bottom one, The evil, just everybody, all these people are evil, but it's most likely economics driving it, partisanism driving it, and then the other two are probably smaller ones.

00:49:17.000 Yeah.

00:49:17.000 I mean, I think the partisan one is so true, especially if you're getting people who are like, you know, like you were saying with the theater owners who hold up their crosses to you in secret, like these people being like, I am against child trafficking, but I don't want to say it too loud.

00:49:28.000 That's a little weird, but I guess if that's your team's line, I don't know.

00:49:33.000 I identify with Russell's idea that it's economic warfare, essentially.

00:49:38.000 They don't like the model of coming in from the outside and disrupting the Hollywood model.

00:49:41.000 That's terrifying.

00:49:42.000 And the kids are just a side... There was that news anchor who was like, it's not as much of a crisis as you think.

00:49:49.000 Did you give your fourth reason yet already?

00:49:50.000 Yeah, fourth is just that they're all in it.

00:49:52.000 Combination of the three.

00:49:53.000 They're all in it. 0.99

00:49:54.000 They're all evil. 1.00

00:49:54.000 They're all part of the cartels. 1.00

00:49:56.000 That's the one the internet loves.

00:49:57.000 But I don't even think... Seamus Coghlan has a cartoon on Freedom Tunes that makes the joke perfectly.

00:50:04.000 Okay?

00:50:05.000 I'm going to spoil it for you guys because I need to make the point, but it's two Hollywood guys being like, oh, this Sound of Freedom, you know, what is going on with this?

00:50:12.000 It's succeeding.

00:50:13.000 They'll never change my mind.

00:50:14.000 They go to see the film.

00:50:15.000 They're crying and weeping as they watch it.

00:50:17.000 And as they're leaving, they're like, I never knew the suffering and everything they went through.

00:50:22.000 To bring us the children!

00:50:23.000 Ah, you get the point.

00:50:25.000 We talk about how they're upset because they're the gatekeepers, and they're mad that you guys are basically taken over.

00:50:31.000 But I think there's a component of, we've known for a long time.

00:50:34.000 Because there's the- I think both Corys?

00:50:37.000 Cory Haim and Cory Feldman?

00:50:38.000 Did they both come out and talk about it?

00:50:40.000 For sure.

00:50:40.000 I think so.

00:50:41.000 I mean, Feldman definitely is vocally at it.

00:50:46.000 Elijah Woods talked about this.

00:50:47.000 But then you also have just the general abuse of, you know, we all know the story of Harvey and everything he did.

00:50:53.000 I have a friend that lives in LA and she's been in this world for a long time.

00:50:58.000 And when Harvey finally went in, she was just like, we've known this for Forever.

00:51:03.000 Everybody's known it.

00:51:04.000 Seth MacFarlane made the joke.

00:51:05.000 Everybody knew.

00:51:07.000 Seth MacFarlane made the joke on some awards show.

00:51:09.000 Then you also have Stewie Griffin in an episode of Family Guy running through the mall saying, help, help, I've escaped Kevin Spacey's basement.

00:51:16.000 Like, people in Hollywood know what's going on there.

00:51:19.000 So I'm gonna say The tribal partisan thing, I think, makes sense. 0.80

00:51:24.000 Because we've had people come on and sit at the studio, like The Culture War, for instance, and outright defend books, we have these books here, where they're showing graphic images of adult activities to kids and say, it's a good book.

00:51:34.000 And I'm just like, that's the most insane thing ever.

00:51:37.000 Like, have you no principles?

00:51:38.000 They don't.

00:51:39.000 But I really do think Hollywood's got pedos who are really pissed off that you guys put out a film, I think, I really do think that one of the reasons Disney did not want to run this is because there's high up people who are like, the last thing we want is people focusing on this as a cultural issue.

00:51:56.000 There's no reason for Disney not to publish this film.

00:51:59.000 They had it.

00:52:00.000 It was basically free.

00:52:01.000 They had bought it already.

00:52:02.000 They could have put it straight to DVD or put it on Amazon and made a couple hundred thousand dollars overnight.

00:52:06.000 But they decided to shut it down?

00:52:09.000 Something doesn't add up with that.

00:52:11.000 Because if the question was gatekeeping, they could've just put it on Amazon.

00:52:15.000 They could've put it on Disney+, hey, here's another offering.

00:52:17.000 But for some reason they said, no one should see this movie.

00:52:21.000 That's weird.

00:52:22.000 And then we talked about with, you know...

00:52:25.000 Well, we had Tim here and Eduardo.

00:52:27.000 Is it Edward or Eduardo?

00:52:29.000 Eduardo.

00:52:29.000 And Tim Ballard.

00:52:30.000 When we had him here, he was mentioning that there was going to be a companion documentary that they were supposed to make.

00:52:35.000 And it was because they didn't want to do that, they released the rights to the film.

00:52:39.000 So, Disney's looking at it like, we're going to have to release this film because of a contract and we're going to have to make a documentary about it.

00:52:49.000 I think there are people who are high up who have certain predilections who are like, we don't want two films, so what's your win scenario?

00:52:58.000 Pass it off so just the film comes out, hope it fails, and don't make the documentary.

00:53:02.000 Your worst case scenario is you have to make the documentary and the film comes out.

00:53:05.000 So they actually are looking at it like, you know, we may lose this, but we don't take as much collateral damage in terms of their predilections and what they don't want people talking about.

00:53:15.000 I think it's possible.

00:53:18.000 I want to give some benefit of the doubt that maybe they just thought this isn't- A brand fit.

00:53:25.000 A brand fit.

00:53:27.000 I don't have- You guys are so nice.

00:53:29.000 I mean, technically you're right!

00:53:31.000 I have every reason to hate Disney.

00:53:35.000 They made my life miserable for four and a half years.

00:53:40.000 But I think I'd like to leave that open.

00:53:45.000 Yeah, I think they are being against child trafficking, which is kind of an interesting brand to have.

00:53:51.000 Matt Kibbe, I was talking to him the other day and he said, maybe it's like Baptists and bootleggers.

00:53:57.000 Where you've got the one side, they're kind of almost like a collaboration happening without them even realizing that they're collaborating.

00:54:03.000 One's actually against it and one's for it, but they're actually making it happen together.

00:54:07.000 And he's like, it kind of reminds him of that in some ways.

00:54:10.000 There's a parallel there.

00:54:11.000 I got it pulled up right here.

00:54:12.000 Law & Order SVU has been on the air for 24 years.

00:54:16.000 It is one of the most popular television shows of all time.

00:54:20.000 So there's two points to be made there.

00:54:22.000 Why Disney would look at a well-made movie, which they had already and could just literally upload to Disney Plus and be like, have a nice day.

00:54:30.000 They have that.

00:54:31.000 They could release it, allowing them to be in a similar space.

00:54:34.000 People like the show, clearly.

00:54:36.000 Why would they not do it?

00:54:39.000 Were you going to answer?

00:54:41.000 I have a follow-up question.

00:54:43.000 We were talking to John Irwin, because he said this movie came across his desk at Lionsgate.

00:54:52.000 He was pushing for it.

00:54:54.000 He saw the potential for the movie, but he said, all the people that we launched through, They are the elite.

00:55:00.000 They are the power players.

00:55:01.000 They are the tastemakers.

00:55:03.000 And the leaders don't want to touch the film.

00:55:07.000 We didn't know how to get it out the door.

00:55:08.000 He said they're all calling him now being like... Yeah, everybody's like, why didn't we take that?

00:55:13.000 But then he said, when I saw you guys got it...

00:55:15.000 I was like, that was the perfect match because Angel has a direct connection to the people and the people will care about this issue and they will be able to rise it to the level that the tastemakers pay attention to it.

00:55:25.000 And the leaders have to pay attention to it.

00:55:28.000 And so that's exactly what happened.

00:55:30.000 When Disney sold it back, or to you guys, is it public how much they sold it for?

00:55:35.000 They sold it to Eduardo.

00:55:36.000 They sold it to Eduardo.

00:55:37.000 I think they released it to him, didn't they?

00:55:38.000 Eduardo released the number of what he's got into the film.

00:55:41.000 It's $14.5 million.

00:55:42.000 He released that publicly.

00:55:43.000 I don't know the exact details of the rest of what goes into that $14.5 million.

00:55:47.000 Okay, but roughly, up to $14 million, he paid to Disney to get it.

00:55:50.000 And maybe Disney thought they weren't going to get $14 million putting it on Disney+, so they're just better off unloading it for a small dose of cash.

00:55:58.000 I just can't speculate.

00:55:59.000 I say what you're thinking.

00:56:01.000 I want to pull up this video.

00:56:03.000 We have this video Ian Miles Chong posted.

00:56:05.000 It says, this is what's popular on TikTok.

00:56:07.000 Meanwhile in China, kids are learning about theoretical physics, practical woodworking, and astronomy on Douyin, which is their version of TikTok.

00:56:15.000 This video is disturbing.

00:56:17.000 It's on par with the NPC girls. 0.86

00:56:20.000 You guys have seen that stuff?

00:56:21.000 Yeah, I just saw it the other day and I was so confused by it.

00:56:25.000 My wife and I, we watched it like seven times and we're sitting there going to bed and we're watching it over and over again.

00:56:30.000 I'm like, what are they doing?

00:56:31.000 And by the end we just... You and everyone else.

00:56:33.000 I won't let myself watch it.

00:56:36.000 I want to play this video.

00:56:37.000 I got to play this video.

00:56:38.000 It's 23 seconds and you'll get a general idea.

00:56:40.000 I don't want it to be too loud, but here we go.

00:56:42.000 go. Oh, you want to hit the audio? For those that are just listening, it is a guy who's

00:57:01.000 crying and screaming and trying to stack nuts.

00:57:06.000 Like, hardware nuts.

00:57:07.000 Lug nuts or something?

00:57:09.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:57:09.000 I don't think those are lug nuts, necessarily.

00:57:11.000 Just hardware nuts.

00:57:12.000 And it's deranged.

00:57:14.000 It is absolutely deranged content.

00:57:16.000 If you let it roll for a second longer, he makes this weird, like...

00:57:19.000 Yeah.

00:57:20.000 That's why he's popular, is that face and that sound and stuff.

00:57:23.000 So this is what, this is what kids are watching.

00:57:25.000 You feel your mind disorganized as you watch it.

00:57:28.000 This is what, so I'll throw it back to you guys, are you guys familiar with Elsagate?

00:57:32.000 YouTube started promoting a whole bunch of these videos of Elsa, Spider-Man, and the Joker running around doing shenanigans.

00:57:39.000 It started devolving into extremely psychotic content where there were cartoons of children drinking out of urinals and consuming feces.

00:57:46.000 In 2013 or something?

00:57:47.000 This is the algorithm at the time.

00:57:51.000 I think this was YouTube.

00:57:52.000 It was an accident.

00:57:53.000 Yeah.

00:57:54.000 YouTube just had an algorithm that recommended what got clicked the most.

00:57:56.000 They didn't really think about it and it was being exploited and people were just doing keyword searches and then making whatever was getting the most clicks and it turned into this nightmare scenario.

00:58:05.000 I think with TikTok.

00:58:06.000 You look at this video, pull this clip back up.

00:58:08.000 I want people who are watching to see this guy's face.

00:58:11.000 TikTok is promoting this stuff.

00:58:13.000 Because I think they figured out, hey...

00:58:15.000 Elsagate is destroying the fabric of the United States and the West, because the children who watch that are going to have psychological problems and trauma later in life.

00:58:25.000 This is very much the same thing, as are the NPC girls.

00:58:29.000 There are already stories about, first, young girls facing extreme depression because of Instagram, but now you have stories of young girls developing Tourette syndrome Because they would watch a popular influencer with Tourette's start imitating the person and then start developing involuntary tics in their communication style because this is social development for young people.

00:58:49.000 I think TikTok, it's my personal opinion, promotes this stuff in the algorithm because it is gutting and destroying the fabric of our young people.

00:58:58.000 This is another reason why I think it's so extremely important.

00:59:00.000 One, you guys share Tell your friends to go see movies like Sound of Freedom, but all the other stuff that Angel Studios has coming out, you've got, what's that new, there's another movie you've got coming out?

00:59:09.000 You've got Cabrini.

00:59:10.000 Cabrini.

00:59:10.000 The Shift, I think.

00:59:11.000 The Shift is coming out in December.

00:59:13.000 Cabrini looks really good.

00:59:14.000 There's one coming out in October called After Death.

00:59:18.000 Oh, cool.

00:59:19.000 Dude, the shift looks nuts.

00:59:20.000 Yeah, the shift looks good.

00:59:21.000 The shift is awesome.

00:59:22.000 I really want to see Cabrini.

00:59:23.000 That trailer looks really amazing.

00:59:24.000 And John Lithgow's in it!

00:59:26.000 Yeah, John Lithgow.

00:59:27.000 And it's the same director as Sound of Freedom.

00:59:28.000 It's Alejandro.

00:59:29.000 Oh, wonderful.

00:59:30.000 And it's his best work yet.

00:59:31.000 It looks really good.

00:59:33.000 My wife and I screened it, and my wife came away and she said, top five movie of all time for me.

00:59:37.000 Wow.

00:59:38.000 My daughters say it's their favorite movie too.

00:59:40.000 Wow, that's amazing.

00:59:42.000 Once we have screeners, we'll let you know.

00:59:44.000 Right on, right on.

00:59:45.000 But I don't want to watch a screener.

00:59:46.000 I want to watch in theaters.

00:59:47.000 That's right.

00:59:48.000 Okay, all right.

00:59:49.000 We'll get you in the theater when it's time.

00:59:51.000 I don't know if it's supposed to be a secret or whatever.

00:59:52.000 With Sound of Freedom, someone reached out to me and said, like, hey, we got a screener.

00:59:56.000 We want you to see the film.

00:59:57.000 I was like, I'm going to theaters, man.

00:59:58.000 Yeah, I like you.

01:00:00.000 That's so much better.

01:00:01.000 Yeah, but the theater's the experience, especially there with your friends.

01:00:04.000 And afterwards, we're walking out, we're talking about the parts we liked and didn't like.

01:00:07.000 And not just that.

01:00:07.000 The theater is this, it's a communal experience.

01:00:11.000 Everybody goes in, do you guys know who Andrew Peterson is?

01:00:14.000 No.

01:00:14.000 Who wrote The Winged Feather Saga?

01:00:15.000 He's from Nashville.

01:00:18.000 Amazing author from Nashville, musician, pretty big name.

01:00:21.000 But he has a blog called The Rabbit Room.

01:00:26.000 And on that blog, they published, it's a group of people that write on it, they wrote a blog post called The Sacrament of Cinema.

01:00:33.000 And in it explains, and this is what shifted my gears on why movie theaters are hanging on and why I think that they have a bright future, is he compares the sacrament when you go to church and you let go of everything and you get into the exact same experience as everybody around you and you focus on this one thing which represents Jesus Christ.

01:00:55.000 And you focus, focus, focus, and you take the sacrament.

01:01:00.000 When you go to the theater, you're surrendering all your screens, all the social media, and you're allowing yourself to be enveloped in an experience that that director built for you and crafted for you.

01:01:12.000 And then immerse yourself, and there's no pause button, and you're all together.

01:01:16.000 And so you have this incredible experience, and it can be life-changing.

01:01:21.000 And I think that people are hungry to get away from the social screens.

01:01:27.000 And the easiest, most simple way to do that is to head to the cinema and actually- Shut it all down.

01:01:33.000 Shut everything down.

01:01:34.000 And it's healthy for us right now where we're overstimulated.

01:01:39.000 So it almost sounds weird because it used to be the stimulation spot, but this is actually, I think it's a way to shut things off.

01:01:46.000 I do too.

01:01:46.000 The good news is- So when we look at this video and this guy is screeching and making nonsense content, which is going to traumatize kids, they're gonna grow up and they will imitate.

01:01:58.000 Are they gonna be building spaceships?

01:01:59.000 Are they gonna be astronauts?

01:02:00.000 Are they gonna be even race car drivers?

01:02:02.000 No, they're gonna be...

01:02:03.000 Saying insane things or acting like NPCs and saying ice cream so good, but we're winning.

01:02:08.000 One, obviously you guys are here, we're talking about Angel Studios, all the projects you have, but along with this story is Dylan Mulvaney announcing a stepping back from producing content because only 50% of Americans like me, Dylan says, and so Mulvaney will be slowing down content.

01:02:26.000 This is what happens when people speak up for what they believe in, when they say Uh, rather sternly, but politely.

01:02:34.000 Dylan Mulvaney has bad content, which is bad for kids, promoting alcohol to kids.

01:02:38.000 You know, people want to talk about gender ideology, I'm like, absolutely.

01:02:41.000 But also, the scandal starts with Dylan promoting booze to children on TikTok.

01:02:47.000 That was the whole thing!

01:02:48.000 Grabbing all the beer cans, cracking them open, and being like March Madness, drink beer, and the average audience of TikTok is under 21.

01:02:55.000 These are not good things.

01:02:58.000 So when we see this stuff, we complain about TikTok.

01:03:00.000 Yes, there are issues with a lot of people using the platform.

01:03:03.000 TikTok banned us, for instance, for no reason.

01:03:05.000 Little sour grapes there, I suppose.

01:03:07.000 For no reason, we're removed.

01:03:08.000 We can't even express our opinions.

01:03:10.000 But I think, this is what leads me to believe ultimately, they're trying to influence young people in ways that destroy their lives.

01:03:16.000 When we look at Sound of Freedom, when we look at, I mean, Angel Studios, you guys are slaying it!

01:03:22.000 It's crazy, the expanse of growth.

01:03:24.000 We may not have control of all the institutions.

01:03:27.000 I have people say, how can you claim we're winning if Hollywood is owned by the left, if television is owned by the left?

01:03:31.000 I'm like, there you go.

01:03:32.000 One of my points was theaters are not owned by the left.

01:03:34.000 But what I'm saying is winning doesn't mean owning everything.

01:03:39.000 Winning doesn't mean you won.

01:03:40.000 Right.

01:03:41.000 Winning means you are gaining the territory in the conflict.

01:03:44.000 That's right.

01:03:44.000 And we are winning.

01:03:46.000 That's right.

01:03:46.000 What you said about the theater is so true.

01:03:49.000 It's epically true. 0.92

01:03:50.000 It's been true for thousands of years beyond cinema.

01:03:52.000 Cinema is a relatively new aspect of theater, but the theater, since the Greeks, 800 BC.

01:03:58.000 It's a local thing.

01:03:58.000 It's not a global thing.

01:03:59.000 People vibrate together in the local community.

01:04:01.000 That's the ticket.

01:04:02.000 I had a dude, when I saw Sound of Freedom, to my left, it was like breathing super heavy.

01:04:06.000 He wasn't very healthy.

01:04:07.000 He was drinking his Diet Coke or whatever he was drinking.

01:04:10.000 But I have love for that man.

01:04:13.000 It made that experience unique.

01:04:15.000 It was in my ear, and it was a little distracting, but at the same time, I'll never forget it.

01:04:20.000 I'll remember that forever, that moment.

01:04:22.000 And I love that guy.

01:04:22.000 I just remember that guy.

01:04:24.000 It was cool to be there with them.

01:04:25.000 Or the fact that I think it's, I mean, we might be seeing as much as 10% of showings of Sound of Freedom having standing ovations.

01:04:33.000 And there's showings where people, complete strangers hug each other.

01:04:38.000 Yes, and this isn't an uncommon report.

01:04:41.000 I think also- You can't have that at home.

01:04:42.000 Yeah, since COVID has basically died down, the madness around COVID, people want to go out and socialize again.

01:04:48.000 And the cinema is the place.

01:04:50.000 Yes.

01:04:51.000 You hear that, AMC?

01:04:52.000 I'll say it.

01:04:53.000 I gotta say it every time.

01:04:54.000 The intro of Sound of Freedom is just so good.

01:04:57.000 Oh yeah.

01:04:58.000 Man, it's remarkable to me that they walked away from that.

01:05:01.000 That they're like, how do you not watch that and be like, wow.

01:05:04.000 This is an amazing film.

01:05:05.000 Yeah.

01:05:06.000 Just the intro.

01:05:06.000 Just the intro, man.

01:05:08.000 Really well done.

01:05:09.000 We had a super chat from earlier.

01:05:10.000 Someone suggested that you guys do, or somebody does a movie about the Statue of Liberty, that story about the Statue of Liberty.

01:05:15.000 Oh, that would be really fun.

01:05:16.000 That'd be cool.

01:05:16.000 I made a trailer.

01:05:17.000 We are working right now.

01:05:19.000 Probably the first piece of it will be done next year.

01:05:22.000 Jordan should be talking about this part.

01:05:24.000 Founders.

01:05:25.000 Yeah.

01:05:26.000 We're building a series on the founding of America and trying to build an entire... This is so under-told.

01:05:31.000 Game of Thrones style.

01:05:31.000 Yes, this is so under-told.

01:05:34.000 Game of Thrones with a moral compass.

01:05:36.000 Of course.

01:05:39.000 But this is such an under-told story.

01:05:42.000 Think about how many movies you know The Patriot, and then you know like a bazillion documentaries.

01:05:47.000 Dude, The Patriot is like one of my favorite movies of all time.

01:05:49.000 John Adams.

01:05:50.000 The Patriot is such a good movie.

01:05:50.000 Yeah, John Adams and The Patriot, that's about it.

01:05:52.000 And there's that musical, 1776, that was pretty good.

01:05:56.000 In the UK they complained about the depiction of the British in The Patriot.

01:06:00.000 Because you get the bad guy like killing children and they're like, oh how dare you!

01:06:05.000 It's anti-British. 0.99

01:06:06.000 It's anti-white colonialism. 0.52

01:06:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:06:10.000 Go out there and make your own pro-British movie.

01:06:11.000 I think it's interesting because I watched Patriot probably way after everyone else, but after it you're like, yeah, let's hang an American flag.

01:06:17.000 This is great.

01:06:19.000 I feel like there is something really positive about walking into a theater and being like, I feel empowered to do something.

01:06:23.000 I think Sound of Freedom has that effect for a lot of people, even if it's just be more conscious of how they can serve their local community.

01:06:28.000 But the Patriot makes you want to be like, yeah, it's a good country.

01:06:31.000 This is cool stuff.

01:06:32.000 I think that is sort of, along with the moral hunger in society, some way to feed that.

01:06:37.000 Because videos like this of TikTok of this guy screaming, that's the equivalent of fake chemical sugar that we're feeding to our young people.

01:06:44.000 You need to give them more substantial content for them to feed their minds, their emotions, their souls, things like that.

01:06:51.000 If you have them on the app where there's nothing nutritious, so to speak, there, then of course they wither away.

01:06:57.000 You can't be surprised.

01:06:58.000 This stuff's junk food.

01:06:59.000 You know what is really interesting?

01:07:01.000 You bring up the Patriot and that was made by an immigrant, right? 1.00

01:07:05.000 Alejandro is an immigrant.

01:07:07.000 Frank Capra, who made a ton of Americana, right?

01:07:12.000 It's a wonderful life.

01:07:16.000 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, all these films that helped define our country, made by immigrants. 1.00

01:07:22.000 That's what I love about the cinema.

01:07:27.000 Is that it's all about uniting around an idea rather than partisanship or, or country lines.

01:07:35.000 It's just about uniting around an idea.

01:07:37.000 Well, and I think it's interesting too, because this new study came out saying they're like only 18% of young Americans consider themselves like very patriotic.

01:07:45.000 Which is sort of strange, but when we saw periods of high patriotism, it's when we're in conflict, when we have to pull together with people that we don't know who live in our country, we feel bonded that way.

01:07:57.000 And to your point, I think, at least in my experience as a first-generation American, immigrants choose to be here and they realize often why.

01:08:06.000 They have a decision, there's a choice, right?

01:08:08.000 There's sort of an act of love in that choice.

01:08:11.000 And I think that in some ways makes it easier to be clear about what you have when you were born into something.

01:08:16.000 It sometimes becomes easy to be like, meh, not that great because you don't have anything to compare it to.

01:08:20.000 Right.

01:08:20.000 That's right.

01:08:21.000 I was in Poland and my wife and I, we went to a communist museum.

01:08:25.000 They have a bunch of them.

01:08:27.000 And I was reading, I was just amazing, all the artifacts and everything from the USSR that were there and these Stalin statues and Lenin statues.

01:08:35.000 And then I get out and I'm looking at Google reviews and there's all these Americans writing these one-star reviews and they're just like, uh, it, it makes communism look really bad.

01:08:52.000 They're like, they need to get rid of their bias towards this.

01:08:55.000 And I'm just like, what?

01:08:56.000 No.

01:08:57.000 These are the people who, like the people who made this museum are alive now and they lived through it.

01:09:04.000 And anyway, so it's just, they forget.

01:09:08.000 You're only a generation away from freedom being gone.

01:09:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:14.000 We need to preserve the... I think about that when it comes to the transgender movement and just transgenderism in general.

01:09:20.000 If we could somehow make a movie that shows someone going through it, and you can really empathize with the person struggling with their own gender, and then you can kind of see it from the outside of what's happening to them and why they're going through it, that it could remind people in 20 years, like, it's okay to be you.

01:09:34.000 You know, just to give young people hope that if you're feeling weird, there's a way to... It's okay to feel weird.

01:09:41.000 Yeah, and if we don't tell the story, it won't be remembered why it happened in the first place, and then we're doomed to repeat these cycles of lack of faith or lack of love for self.

01:09:52.000 So I would love to make a movie about that.

01:09:54.000 I would even love to play that character, for honest.

01:09:56.000 Kids need... I bet you could do a great job at that, Ian.

01:09:59.000 Kids need stories where they will look up to people.

01:10:03.000 Yeah.

01:10:03.000 So that they want to emulate something.

01:10:06.000 You know, I read these stories online, there's these memes where guys like, I have a kid, he's kind of dumb, he's five, and then one day I saw him running around and he said, I'm Spider-Man, I'm Spider-Man, or something like that.

01:10:17.000 And I'm like, yeah, the kid saw a movie where the main character, the good guy, Spider-Man, is doing these heroic things and then the kid imitates that.

01:10:23.000 You give positive reinforcement, say, these are the people we like, these are the stories of heroism.

01:10:28.000 Right now what's happening is we've had this period where there's a lot of woke movies that have no clear...

01:10:34.000 Plot.

01:10:36.000 The Bane characters are bad guys.

01:10:38.000 Like, even if you look at, Captain Marvel's a good example.

01:10:41.000 There's this really great video breakdown of Captain America versus Captain Marvel.

01:10:44.000 Captain America sacrifices himself for his country.

01:10:47.000 He desperately tries to serve his nation, even though he's not fit to do so.

01:10:50.000 He's willing to jump on a grenade to save people.

01:10:53.000 Captain Marvel starts off with her robbing a guy for his clothes. 0.98

01:10:56.000 Right.

01:10:56.000 And so, and worse, and because the guy's on a motorcycle and he goes, you should smile.

01:11:00.000 And then she looks at him and then robs him. 1.00

01:11:02.000 Like, apparently they're playing this trope that women should be empowered by stealing. 0.99

01:11:06.000 Like, she's the bad guy.

01:11:08.000 And they tried defending it saying, well, yeah, you know, she changes later on.

01:11:10.000 And I'm like, if kids watch that and they look up to someone who is mean, nasty, and entitled, they're gonna grow up thinking that's the way to be and we don't want that.

01:11:18.000 You're gonna love Cabrini.

01:11:20.000 Because Cabrini is the story of a woman who's a superhero by being a woman.

01:11:26.000 Unapologetically.

01:11:27.000 She unapologetically, unapologetically, she's in a battle against the mayor of New York 0.55

01:11:34.000 trying to figure out how to help the poor.

01:11:36.000 And she's a Catholic nun.

01:11:37.000 And she's a Catholic nun.

01:11:39.000 But she's an entrepreneur who happens to be a Catholic nun. 0.99

01:11:43.000 What year does it take place?

01:11:45.000 It's 18... 18... Well, she was born in 50... 56?

01:11:48.000 Late 1800s.

01:11:51.000 Late 1800s, yep.

01:11:54.000 But it's just this beautiful story of a woman being powerful because she's a woman.

01:12:01.000 And I think that what we're seeing is that people are sick and tired of nihilistic movies.

01:12:13.000 Yeah.

01:12:14.000 Every single movie ends with, everybody's bad. 0.98

01:12:20.000 You get to the end of a series that you liked, and they just end with, everybody sucks. 0.99

01:12:25.000 Everybody's bad. 0.99

01:12:26.000 Everybody's evil.

01:12:27.000 Everybody's complicated.

01:12:29.000 Well, complicated's fine.

01:12:31.000 But there's no true good, evil, black, white hero that's just missing right now. 0.53

01:12:41.000 They're sick of nihilism.

01:12:43.000 And we're trying to offer an antidote to that, is that, you know, stories that amplify light.

01:12:48.000 But go ahead.

01:12:50.000 Oh, and you're talking about Frances Xavier Cabrini, the woman, the Italian-American saint?

01:12:54.000 Yes.

01:12:54.000 She's powerful.

01:12:56.000 First American saint.

01:12:58.000 She's the very first.

01:12:59.000 First.

01:12:59.000 Man or woman.

01:13:00.000 Man or woman. 0.78

01:13:00.000 Are there more? 0.78

01:13:01.000 Are there other ones now?

01:13:02.000 Yeah.

01:13:02.000 Oh, cool.

01:13:03.000 I had a question.

01:13:05.000 Basically, you said that you watched, you and your wife, Jeff, watched that weird TikTok NPC seven times.

01:13:10.000 Yep.

01:13:11.000 And like, it's junk food.

01:13:12.000 You also mentioned how it's like junk food.

01:13:13.000 Did you feel like gross afterwards?

01:13:14.000 Did you feel weird afterwards?

01:13:15.000 Because you was talking about how it like discombobulates the soul or whatever.

01:13:18.000 Oh, I said I feel my mind disorganized as I'm watching it.

01:13:22.000 Yeah.

01:13:22.000 It's just straight up junk food.

01:13:23.000 Did you feel it happening as you were watching?

01:13:25.000 Because I've had to shut that video off. 0.89

01:13:26.000 It's like brain junk food. 0.94

01:13:28.000 Yeah, it's just like, I think TikTok just in general is brain junk food. 0.94

01:13:33.000 I think it's more like brain opiates, like drugs.

01:13:38.000 I guess you were talking about how characters become complicated and how that's kind of a problem, but you were saying it's okay, like complication's okay.

01:13:45.000 I wonder about that because...

01:13:47.000 I think we do need to reorient people.

01:13:49.000 You know, the reason I mention that is because one of the reviewers of Sound of Freedom was pointing out how they wish that the character Tim Ballard was more complicated.

01:13:58.000 But it just happens to be a true story.

01:14:01.000 And Alejandro and Rod Barr, they wrote it the best they could based off the stories.

01:14:06.000 And what they knew about Tim Ballard.

01:14:07.000 And what they knew about Tim.

01:14:08.000 And they wanted something more complex.

01:14:15.000 But clearly audiences just want someone to go and fight evil.

01:14:22.000 They want to see somebody fight evil and know that that can happen.

01:14:25.000 And it's giving people courage.

01:14:27.000 And when somebody sees someone else, like if someone sees Cabrini do something, someone sees Tim Ballard do something, they say, wait a second, that wakes up something inside of me.

01:14:38.000 Yeah, because nobody's perfect.

01:14:40.000 Tim's probably gotten into arguments with his wife, but you don't want to make people listen to it.

01:14:44.000 Well, and he actually tells the story, because in the film she says to him, you quit your job and you go and rescue those kids.

01:14:52.000 He said the real story was he called her and said, Honey, I have a chance to rescue some kids.

01:15:01.000 The only way I can do it is if I quit my job.

01:15:03.000 We've got six kids at home, you know, obviously I can't do that.

01:15:06.000 He was trying to talk her out of it.

01:15:07.000 He was trying to talk her out of it.

01:15:09.000 Talk himself out of it.

01:15:10.000 And then she said, I hope I quote this correctly, but she said essentially, Can you rescue the kids if you stay?

01:15:19.000 And he says, yes, I think I can.

01:15:21.000 And she said, then you need to quit your job and go do that. 0.61

01:15:24.000 And he said, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1.00

01:15:25.000 You're crazy. 0.95

01:15:26.000 We'll lose our pension. 0.99

01:15:27.000 All this stuff will happen.

01:15:27.000 She said, you don't come home until you rescue those kids.

01:15:29.000 And she said, you don't come home until you rescue those kids.

01:15:31.000 And then he kept fighting it.

01:15:33.000 And then he says, I was kind of a coward.

01:15:35.000 And then she finally said, I will not jeopardize my salvation by you not rescuing those kids.

01:15:43.000 So that was the real story, right?

01:15:45.000 But Alejandro wanted to have the hero be the hero.

01:15:49.000 But he was sitting there like, I don't have any support from the state, which means maybe I've got like a 50-50 chance.

01:15:57.000 That you become a widow.

01:15:59.000 Yeah, that's kind of how he was feeling, whether or not that's... Without support.

01:16:04.000 Yeah, if you don't have support, if things go wrong, you're gambling.

01:16:07.000 He ended up having support of the Colombian government by the end, but when he made that decision he had no support.

01:16:13.000 We were listening to a lot of classic rock and older songs, and we're hanging out downstairs.

01:16:20.000 We're also, you know, we watch some older movies, and I'm just like, where are the modern masterpieces?

01:16:26.000 You know, everything's formulaic, and I think it's probably fair to say I didn't grow up in the 60s or 70s.

01:16:30.000 They probably had their formulaic garbage music all the same, and we only remember the greatest works and stuff like that.

01:16:36.000 But man, we're really in need of a movie that will resonate throughout generations. 0.76

01:16:40.000 We need to get away from this formulaic stuff.

01:16:44.000 You know, look, superhero movies are entertaining.

01:16:45.000 I'll go see them.

01:16:46.000 But Sound of Freedom was meaning.

01:16:49.000 We need movies like that.

01:16:51.000 Even Groundhog Day, right?

01:16:52.000 Groundhog Day seems simple comedy, but it's so good.

01:16:56.000 So powerful, right?

01:16:57.000 Yeah.

01:16:58.000 Like, you walk away from it, you want to be a better person.

01:17:00.000 Yeah, but it's fun, you know?

01:17:02.000 It's interesting.

01:17:02.000 It's an interesting idea.

01:17:03.000 Yeah, when I sculpt.

01:17:05.000 Well, the system has gutted out the place where people can play and take risks.

01:17:11.000 They've gone to tent poles.

01:17:12.000 That's where they can invest the money.

01:17:14.000 That's the way that they know how to make the cinemas work, and that's the way they keep the competition out.

01:17:18.000 So nobody can get in and play with risky storytelling.

01:17:24.000 And the Angel model has opened that door again. 0.99

01:17:27.000 Yep.

01:17:28.000 I think that door is wide open now.

01:17:30.000 Is it because you guys now have contacts?

01:17:31.000 I'm still a little foggy on the whole process.

01:17:33.000 I mean, I know you have the 100,000 investors that pick the thing, they'll fund the thing.

01:17:38.000 We can predict the Rotten Tomatoes audience score based off the guild.

01:17:43.000 Oh, nice.

01:17:43.000 And then in addition to that, we have... We can predict the audience Rotten Tomatoes score, not the critics.

01:17:55.000 The print and advertising marketing budget normally comes from a bank or from a big studio.

01:18:00.000 They write one check.

01:18:02.000 When we're getting the checks from 7,000, 10,000 people, it's the smartest marketing funds that have ever been spent in Hollywood because all those people bring their family and friends.

01:18:13.000 They talk about it.

01:18:15.000 And so it becomes a movement.

01:18:16.000 It becomes something where people have to be part of it.

01:18:21.000 And additionally, with our history of selling products and making them household names, we had this moment click where we realized that selling seats is no different than selling squatty-potties.

01:18:33.000 And squatty-potties, by the way, work. 0.95

01:18:36.000 Yes, they do.

01:18:37.000 What's the movie that you guys coming out?

01:18:39.000 You said October, I think?

01:18:40.000 October is After Death.

01:18:42.000 After Death.

01:18:44.000 What's that thing about?

01:18:45.000 Is the trailer out?

01:18:46.000 I can text you the trailer.

01:18:50.000 Jordan, we haven't talked to you much on the show.

01:18:51.000 Can you just make your younger brother do things in the background over here?

01:18:57.000 I'll give you my number after the show, Jordan.

01:18:58.000 Is it weird?

01:18:59.000 I mean, I think we'd be okay just showing a preview, if you guys just want to show a rough cut of the trailer on YouTube.

01:19:04.000 Is it on YouTube?

01:19:04.000 No, it's not on YouTube.

01:19:05.000 No, it's nowhere.

01:19:06.000 Like, you'd be watching the draft.

01:19:07.000 You'd be the first one ever to show a draft.

01:19:09.000 How do we get it up?

01:19:11.000 Let's just do it.

01:19:11.000 How do we do it?

01:19:12.000 Jordan will hook it up.

01:19:14.000 It's not actually out yet.

01:19:15.000 This will be the final trailer?

01:19:16.000 This is a draft of the trailer?

01:19:18.000 Yeah.

01:19:18.000 Cool.

01:19:18.000 But now we're, yeah, let's do it.

01:19:21.000 Oh, wow.

01:19:21.000 Sneak preview for all the TimCast IRL viewers.

01:19:25.000 While they send it over, can I say, Yeah, where are we sending it?

01:19:28.000 Jordan, figure it out.

01:19:30.000 Maybe with Surge?

01:19:31.000 Yeah, run over to Surge and get it to him.

01:19:32.000 What is it like working with a bunch of your brothers?

01:19:36.000 Here, I'll go get it and then send it to Surge somehow.

01:19:39.000 It sends you a link and then maybe you can pull it up.

01:19:40.000 Sorry, Hannah-Claire.

01:19:41.000 It's okay.

01:19:43.000 We probably need the video file.

01:19:45.000 We need to be able to play it or something.

01:19:46.000 You'll be able to download it.

01:19:47.000 Is it online?

01:19:48.000 Okay, cool.

01:19:49.000 Yeah, we can download it.

01:19:49.000 We'll figure that out.

01:19:51.000 So, they're six brothers.

01:19:55.000 So, there are nine in our family.

01:19:56.000 six boys and three girls.

01:19:58.000 And the...

01:19:59.000 So in the beginning, there were some struggles figuring out how to work together.

01:20:06.000 But after we nailed it and after we figured it out, it feels providential how the skill

01:20:12.000 sets of our family complement each other.

01:20:15.000 And it just so happens that there have been many other companies that have been very successful that are brothers.

01:20:22.000 The Disney brothers.

01:20:23.000 Or families.

01:20:24.000 Roy and Walt.

01:20:26.000 You've got the Warner Brothers.

01:20:28.000 You've got the Koch brothers, the Nolan brothers, you've got the Musk brothers.

01:20:34.000 Yeah.

01:20:36.000 And so when family can figure out how to work together well, there's power in that.

01:20:41.000 And so it's really worked out well for us.

01:20:43.000 And three of you are involved and a cousin, you said, or all six of the brothers?

01:20:47.000 So four of us and a cousin started this company.

01:20:51.000 Only three of us work here full time.

01:20:54.000 We have another brother who is the showrunner for Tuttle Twins.

01:20:57.000 Oh, cool.

01:20:58.000 We have a brother who leads the consulting agency, and then another brother who ended up being the operator over at VidAngel when it got sold.

01:21:10.000 The guy who's the CEO of VidAngel hired another brother to do that.

01:21:14.000 That's interesting.

01:21:14.000 So if you have more jobs, you just enlist the rest of your brother.

01:21:18.000 That sounds super nepotistic.

01:21:20.000 No, but maybe it's nice because you guys know each other.

01:21:22.000 I mean the other one is the Ringling Brothers and there were like 400 of them.

01:21:26.000 I mean by that I mean I think there were like eight Ringling Brothers and they each did different things and had different skill sets and that was ultimately a huge part of American culture.

01:21:32.000 If you're just kind of cast from the right die, for us the casting comes from just being farm boys in Idaho and just a farm family.

01:21:41.000 That's where you guys grew up in Idaho?

01:21:43.000 Yeah.

01:21:43.000 And Jordan, over here in the background, he left after co-founding with us.

01:21:49.000 He left for a while and he started another company called Cove and grew it to a hundred million dollar company.

01:21:54.000 And then it ended up being our other team members and our board who decided to hire him back because we didn't feel like we could make that decision.

01:22:04.000 And they hired him back and it's been great.

01:22:06.000 He's filled out the team and helped the team so much.

01:22:11.000 It's definitely not nepotistic unless that can be defined in a good way.

01:22:16.000 I'm not trying to imply it's nepotistic.

01:22:18.000 It's just interesting because some people feel like, you know, you can't work with your spouse, you can't work with your siblings, but obviously… And it is.

01:22:24.000 It's really hard to work with family members, but when you can make it work, something happens that other co-workers say, you guys need to just like talk more because you have this like non-verbal communication happening where you know what's happening with each other.

01:22:39.000 Yeah.

01:22:41.000 It makes it a little harder on the rest of the team.

01:22:42.000 Yeah, they're like the three brothers that are operating in the company.

01:22:45.000 You guys together are like our CEO.

01:22:47.000 You're like the Elon Musk, the three of you together.

01:22:50.000 And then the rest of us have to figure out what you guys are actually thinking because you don't... You don't need to communicate as clearly because you're... We don't.

01:22:59.000 And it works really, really well.

01:23:04.000 Everybody else just has to figure out what we're thinking.

01:23:08.000 Yeah.

01:23:08.000 And so when you started the company, you were all in Utah.

01:23:10.000 Is there a benefit for the film?

01:23:12.000 Because there are certain states that are sort of cultivating film industries, from what I understand.

01:23:16.000 Is Utah one of them?

01:23:17.000 So Provo actually was one of the capitals of media.

01:23:24.000 Like the number of YouTubers that were in Provo when we first started this company, it was like the fourth in the world.

01:23:32.000 Yeah.

01:23:33.000 Well, because they were, from what I understand, they led like sort of lifestyle vlogging.

01:23:36.000 Yeah.

01:23:37.000 And there's, you know, the Piano Geyser from Utah, Devin Supertramp, Lindsey Stirling.

01:23:44.000 So there were a ton of views.

01:23:45.000 But not just that.

01:23:46.000 Utah has a very strong ad market, so advertising agencies are very, very strong in Utah.

01:23:53.000 And we have a very, very good tech market.

01:23:56.000 And so Angel Studios, our core competencies Our technology and marketing.

01:24:04.000 That is what we're very, very good at.

01:24:07.000 And then we work with amazing filmmakers to get their content to go global.

01:24:11.000 So I think we can try and play it.

01:24:13.000 I don't know how it's going to look.

01:24:14.000 Do you want to switch over and see what it looks like?

01:24:16.000 Can you just go full screen?

01:24:18.000 We can't, but... That's fine if we can't.

01:24:21.000 I think this is... Yeah, I don't know if we can even do that.

01:24:26.000 It should.

01:24:27.000 Should be fine.

01:24:28.000 Yeah, equally- Alright, well- Fullscreen in that.

01:24:30.000 Yeah, maybe switch to the, uh, just- Yeah, it's a little bigger.

01:24:34.000 Maybe fullscreen inside there.

01:24:36.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:24:37.000 Nah, fullscreen cuts out too much.

01:24:40.000 Go back to the other one and we'll just play it.

01:24:41.000 Yeah, looks bigger there.

01:24:44.000 So this is a rough cut.

01:24:46.000 We got you, it's cool.

01:24:48.000 It was 1969, the beautiful day to fly.

01:24:52.000 you We were about a hundred feet above the ground when I started noticing that something was wrong.

01:24:59.000 It was engine failure.

01:25:02.000 Trees were filling our windshield.

01:25:08.000 We hit that dome.

01:25:09.000 Boom! 0.99

01:25:14.000 I found myself above the crash site.

01:25:19.000 And while I'm processing what I'm looking at, I can see a pilot.

01:25:25.000 And this is me.

01:25:28.000 No two near-death experiences are the same.

01:25:30.000 Out of nowhere, a trainer truck hit me head-on.

01:25:37.000 But they typically occur in a very consistent process.

01:25:40.000 We began to go down the river, and my boat became pinned.

01:25:44.000 I was drowning.

01:25:46.000 The first thing that happens is called an out-of-body experience.

01:25:49.000 And they come to a place of exquisite beauty.

01:25:53.000 They very commonly see a light.

01:25:56.000 Deceased relatives come to meet them.

01:25:58.000 The first person I saw was my grandfather.

01:26:00.000 Now I'm traveling like a rocket ship, straight upwards.

01:26:04.000 And with that... Oh my God!

01:26:08.000 I'm alive!

01:26:10.000 But not every near-death experience is a good one.

01:26:14.000 23% had hellish experiences.

01:26:16.000 I saw a black tunnel.

01:26:18.000 I was just falling.

01:26:20.000 I wasn't in fear.

01:26:20.000 I was in terror.

01:26:22.000 It was just darkness.

01:26:24.000 Put me back.

01:26:26.000 I don't belong here.

01:26:29.000 I heard a voice before I woke up.

01:26:31.000 You still have a purpose on Earth.

01:26:33.000 I was very skeptical.

01:26:35.000 I never felt alive and then dead.

01:26:39.000 I felt alive and then more alive.

01:26:43.000 I had full brain recordings from a dying human brain.

01:26:48.000 Even though they were unconscious, they were able to give corroborative evidence.

01:26:53.000 She's describing stuff that she just shouldn't know.

01:26:56.000 This ain't right.

01:26:57.000 You can't be mystified by that question.

01:27:00.000 What happens after you die?

01:27:04.000 This really does show that there is life after death.

01:27:07.000 Oh man, that looks awesome.

01:27:15.000 I got chills when the hellish scene happened.

01:27:18.000 Wow, that's really well made.

01:27:20.000 It's impressive.

01:27:21.000 The Guild picked this, Angel Guild picked this, and it just popped out.

01:27:26.000 You know, you're getting 60 filmmakers a week and the Guild is just like, boom, this is one of them.

01:27:30.000 And we're going with October because the Day of the Dead is in October, so that sounds fun.

01:27:37.000 Dia de los Muertos.

01:27:40.000 Yeah, it sounds fun.

01:27:41.000 It's a good juxtaposition.

01:27:42.000 It's like a narrative documentary, like cinematic components added to interviews.

01:27:47.000 That's awesome.

01:27:48.000 It's so cinematic.

01:27:50.000 Are all the theaters going to be like, we gotta pick up this movie because Sound of Freedom did so good.

01:27:54.000 This will probably be a smaller release than, for sure it's a smaller release.

01:27:57.000 This is a littler, like there'll be enough theaters that people can find it, but it will be a smaller.

01:28:02.000 This will be more similar to his own.

01:28:04.000 Oh, my theater has it.

01:28:05.000 Yeah, more similar to his own.

01:28:06.000 That was gonna be fun for Halloween.

01:28:07.000 That's good.

01:28:08.000 Do you feel pressure now that Sound of Freedom is so big?

01:28:10.000 You're like, well, what do we do next?

01:28:12.000 Well, I think Cabrini's gonna be...

01:28:14.000 Bigger?

01:28:14.000 On that level.

01:28:15.000 And then we've got one coming in 2025 called David, and it's a $60 million animated musical.

01:28:21.000 Because King David, and it's based on- Like old school Disney style?

01:28:25.000 Like the way it used to be?

01:28:26.000 Yeah, like Prince of Egypt.

01:28:28.000 It's a bunch of people from the Pixar team and the Disney team that have come together.

01:28:33.000 See, winning a culture war, man.

01:28:34.000 But this is awesome because most musicals, everybody just breaks out music for no reason.

01:28:39.000 And in David, King David was a musician and he was called into Saul, King Saul, to actually sing to bring down his nerves or whatever it was.

01:28:48.000 It sounds like an emotional issue for King Saul, like schizophrenia or something when you read it.

01:28:53.000 But he brings down his nerves, and he wrote most of the book of Psalms.

01:28:58.000 He's just an incredible artist.

01:29:00.000 So the music's all motivated throughout the entire animated musical, because David's a musician.

01:29:08.000 So it's a very interesting take, and I think it's going to be huge.

01:29:11.000 You guys said that this trailer we just watched is a rough cut, so what would be an example of how that would change as you're finalizing the trailer, like technically?

01:29:20.000 There's tweaks for messaging mostly.

01:29:24.000 The audio's mostly there.

01:29:26.000 It's not sweetened yet or balanced, so maybe that didn't turn out as well online, but you gotta sneak peek.

01:29:32.000 It's a live stream.

01:29:33.000 Um, but the, and then you've got different messaging things where there's like, should we put, um, like one of the debates was, does the dark stuff, should the dark stuff be so prominent in the trailer?

01:29:47.000 Or is that going to put some people off?

01:29:49.000 And we're trying to figure out if that, and my wife responded the same way.

01:29:54.000 She's like, that's the most, that's like so intriguing.

01:29:56.000 Like I've never seen anybody.

01:29:59.000 First off, these, these kinds of stories are very common.

01:30:02.000 I've, I've had like neighbors that have had these types of experiences.

01:30:07.000 But they're all so spread out and no one's ever gone through and just told them in a really good way that's scientific as well as good storytelling.

01:30:21.000 And this film's going to rock people.

01:30:27.000 People call them near-death experiences, but the stories are actually death experiences.

01:30:30.000 They're death.

01:30:31.000 That's right. 1.00

01:30:31.000 Every single one of these, they're dead. 1.00

01:30:33.000 People who- They are legally- Doctors said they're dead.

01:30:33.000 Right.

01:30:39.000 19 years ago, someone lent me a book, and I was reading this guy collected a bunch of stories of all these different people.

01:30:46.000 Who had different, totally and dramatically different means of dying.

01:30:50.000 Some, they were sick and they were on their deathbed in the hospital.

01:30:52.000 Some were in car accidents.

01:30:54.000 Some people slipped, fell, hit their head.

01:30:56.000 Things like this.

01:30:57.000 And then they all described very, very similar things.

01:30:59.000 Much like what was actually in that trailer.

01:31:01.000 How they described a place of beauty or a light and things like this.

01:31:04.000 I want to ask one last question before we go Super Chats.

01:31:06.000 Video games.

01:31:08.000 You guys gonna do any video games?

01:31:10.000 So we experimented with Roblox with Wing Feather Saga.

01:31:16.000 I think Wing Feather Saga will eventually be a really good video game.

01:31:18.000 Yeah.

01:31:19.000 It was built in Roblox?

01:31:20.000 No, no it's built in.

01:31:21.000 Wing Feather Saga is really interesting because they animated it and they built specific kind of animation.

01:31:25.000 If you look up Wing Feather Saga trailer, This animation is designed, it will remind you, it came before Puss in Boots, the new one, but it has some of the similarities.

01:31:38.000 Puss in Boots, these guys pioneered this type of animation and they used Epic's Unreal Engine and they designed an entire way to animate with Unreal Engine, which means that it's easy to bring it into a video game.

01:31:55.000 Yeah.

01:31:56.000 It's built to be able to make a video game.

01:31:58.000 Yeah, the future, I think, movies and video games are kind of coming together where you can become the character in the movie and experience it from different perspectives.

01:32:06.000 I got one last question for you, Tim.

01:32:07.000 Would you let them hook your brain and body up to a recording machine, perfect resolution recording, and then let them kill you and bring you back to life? 0.99

01:32:14.000 No. 0.99

01:32:15.000 Why not?

01:32:17.000 What do you mean?

01:32:18.000 Just wondering.

01:32:19.000 That's part two.

01:32:22.000 I wonder if that constitutes suicide. 0.90

01:32:25.000 Or murder, if they kill you without your consent. 0.98

01:32:28.000 In Canada, you can do it. 0.78

01:32:31.000 But if you choose to go to a lab, and they say, we're going to induce death and then bring you back, would that be suicide?

01:32:37.000 As long as you're in Canada, it's fine. 0.99

01:32:38.000 But I'm speaking spiritually and morally. 0.98

01:32:41.000 Are you now condemned to hell for the mortal sin of killing yourself? 0.87

01:32:44.000 And if they fail to bring you back, did they murder you? 0.98

01:32:46.000 That's a good question.

01:32:47.000 Yeah.

01:32:48.000 I would assume that people are doing something with it.

01:32:49.000 Part 2 of After Death.

01:32:50.000 I like it.

01:32:51.000 After.

01:32:51.000 But the video game stuff would be cool.

01:32:52.000 There's uh... Still happening.

01:32:55.000 One of the, one of the, uh, Final Fan- I played Final Fantasy 16.

01:32:58.000 I thought it was not that good.

01:33:01.000 Uh, some people are saying it's so great.

01:33:02.000 I'm like, ugh.

01:33:03.000 Uh, Horizon, the Horizon series is actually really, really good.

01:33:06.000 I don't know if you guys have played it, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's great storytelling.

01:33:09.000 Long story short, Uh, Guy invents self-replicating war machines.

01:33:14.000 One of them gets, well, a company that contracts a group of these machines gets locked out.

01:33:19.000 The machines start self-replicating faster and faster.

01:33:22.000 The rate of replication overwhelms human capabilities to stop it.

01:33:26.000 Planet gets destroyed.

01:33:28.000 The last-ditch effort is to build a terraforming system on Earth.

01:33:31.000 So, the game takes place in the future after civilization's collapsed.

01:33:35.000 And you're fighting these gigantic machines.

01:33:37.000 And then you later learn those machines were actually terraforming the planet.

01:33:40.000 Some problem happens.

01:33:41.000 Chaos, conflict, etc.

01:33:42.000 But it's cool to, you know, stories like that.

01:33:44.000 Some people don't like it.

01:33:46.000 I like it.

01:33:46.000 Although the Forbidden West is...

01:33:50.000 Irritatingly woke, in that all the bad guys are dudes, and all of the heroic generals of the good guys are women, and it's just like, at a certain point, come on, man. 0.92

01:34:01.000 You know, and they make you fight women all the time, and I'm like, it is kind of weird that in this game you go around just mercilessly beating women, but they wanted all of these fighters to be like, very prominently female, and I'm like, it's just a game where you go around beating women.

01:34:13.000 You know, like, even if they were gonna do it 50-50, you'd have some guys here and some guys there, and it's like, mostly women, you know, so. 1.00

01:34:19.000 But, you know, video games would be cool.

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01:34:41.000 I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, I've come to the conclusion that Western intelligence

01:34:45.000 agencies, specifically American, have grown beyond their scope and are more of a problem

01:34:49.000 than solution. Do we dissolve or reform them? If so, how? You vote for Donald Trump and then you

01:34:55.000 defund and dissolve. Or Vivek. Or Vivek.

01:34:59.000 Vivek said he'd do it.

01:34:59.000 RFK would do it.

01:35:00.000 Larry Arthur said I could be his press secretary.

01:35:02.000 Which one will really do it though?

01:35:03.000 That's the question.

01:35:04.000 Ah, Vivek.

01:35:05.000 Because I like Vivek, I like RFK.

01:35:08.000 I mean Trump wants revenge.

01:35:10.000 I couldn't vote for Trump because he was for the lockdowns.

01:35:13.000 Don't vote for the lockdowns.

01:35:16.000 He wasn't against them.

01:35:17.000 He was against them.

01:35:19.000 He said, he said, we shouldn't do this, it should be by choice, but I don't have the authority, and then, I don't think he said it that articulately, he was like, I can't do it, it's the governors, they could do it, they're doing their thing.

01:35:28.000 He was for it in the beginning, though.

01:35:30.000 Yeah, I remember getting up and saying...

01:35:32.000 Yeah, so for me, that's where he loses me, but I really like Vivek and I like RFK Jr.

01:35:41.000 I think Vivek is how it is pronounced.

01:35:44.000 I thought it was Vivek, but it's Vivek.

01:35:47.000 Okay, good.

01:35:48.000 I've never said it out loud.

01:35:49.000 I just read it.

01:35:50.000 Dude, he's legit.

01:35:51.000 That guy's awesome.

01:35:51.000 We just interviewed him last week.

01:35:55.000 He's the best guy running, in my opinion.

01:35:58.000 I'm a realist, not an idealist.

01:36:01.000 And he didn't offer me a job, so what's the point?

01:36:05.000 We can be idealists during the primaries.

01:36:07.000 Idealistically, I'd love to see Vivek win.

01:36:09.000 Realistically, I think he gets a cabinet position in a Trump administration.

01:36:13.000 Trump's the guy with the gravitas to win.

01:36:15.000 He said that he wouldn't take a cabinet position because he's not wired to take a number two position.

01:36:19.000 And I just thought that was like a very interesting, very self-aware comment.

01:36:22.000 Self-aware that he wouldn't be able to do it.

01:36:24.000 He said, like, some people, like, would you see a Vice President Trump?

01:36:26.000 And it's like, it's very difficult to imagine a Vice President Trump.

01:36:33.000 All right, here we go.

01:36:34.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:36:35.000 says, Tim, forget about Corn Pop.

01:36:37.000 He was merely just a bad dude.

01:36:38.000 Coconut and Monkey, on the other hand, are leading a domestic terrorism campaign against fellow crackheads, and they'll only get probation.

01:36:44.000 Yeah, this is a story out of Seattle.

01:36:45.000 Did you guys hear about this?

01:36:46.000 IEDs were planted.

01:36:48.000 There was a shootout.

01:36:49.000 There's a drug camp that went up in flames.

01:36:52.000 Coconut, I think, was the leader.

01:36:54.000 Second in command was Monkey.

01:36:55.000 Like, this is what's happening in these cities when people absolve themselves of their responsibilities and their civic duties.

01:37:02.000 You get Coconut running around, setting fires.

01:37:05.000 Apparently, there were people in a tent doing drugs, fentanyl.

01:37:09.000 And then this guy placed a bunch of IEDs all over the place and just torched everything.

01:37:13.000 One dude got, like, seriously burned and is in, like, critical condition or something.

01:37:17.000 I feel like I'm not seeing this story reported widely enough, which is also concerning.

01:37:20.000 What the heck, yeah.

01:37:21.000 There's just a ton of stuff that you don't want to talk about.

01:37:24.000 Why haven't I heard about this?

01:37:25.000 Well, my first thought was, is I've been launching a movie.

01:37:28.000 Yeah, you're busy.

01:37:29.000 Yeah, I just don't think the corporate press is going to be like, did you know that far-left extremists have implemented policies resulting in gang warfare in Seattle to the point where forests are being set on fire and IEDs are being planted and shootouts are happening?

01:37:41.000 And they're assaulting people who are taking drugs that are trafficked across the border.

01:37:44.000 They just don't want to talk about it.

01:37:47.000 Steve McGee says if Biden said Corn Pop is bad, I'm going to assume he is good.

01:37:51.000 Well, the conspiracy theory is that Corn Pop caught Joe Biden touching kids inappropriately, and Joe Biden lied about the story for, you know, brownie points or whatever.

01:38:00.000 And it turned out Corn Pop was a good dude.

01:38:02.000 Right.

01:38:02.000 You know, Joe Biden's got that story where he's like, the kids, they rubbed my legs!

01:38:05.000 Like, I got hairy legs!

01:38:06.000 It's like, what?

01:38:08.000 And someone made a cartoon where Joe Biden's in a pool and the kids are rubbing his legs or whatever.

01:38:13.000 Yeah, maybe Corn Pop saw him and was like, stop touching these kids, you freak.

01:38:18.000 And then Joe Biden grabbed a rusty chain and was like, what'd you say to me?

01:38:23.000 Great story.

01:38:24.000 I mean, look.

01:38:24.000 Make a movie out of it.

01:38:26.000 I don't trust Joe Biden's version of events.

01:38:28.000 I called him Esther and he got mad.

01:38:30.000 Corn Pop will have his day.

01:38:32.000 All right, Coco Madetta says, the Tuttle Twins books are the best.

01:38:36.000 My kids love them.

01:38:37.000 And I'm buying extra to give for birthday gifts.

01:38:39.000 Spread the good news by doing the same.

01:38:40.000 What is it?

01:38:41.000 I don't know.

01:38:41.000 Tuttle Twins?

01:38:42.000 Yeah.

01:38:42.000 Tuttle Twins is a best-selling book series that sold, I think, five or six million copies that teach kids about the principles of liberty and economics.

01:38:50.000 And we've made a TV series based on the book series.

01:38:53.000 I'm wearing the hat.

01:38:55.000 um that's got this grandma cubid who's in a wheelchair and her wheelchair happens to be an interdimensional time traveling wheelchair and she takes her twin grandkids that are half cuban half american and flies them around to meet characters like benjamin franklin or harriet tubman Or Frederick Bastier.

01:39:18.000 Just all inventors, entrepreneurs, educators.

01:39:23.000 It's halfway through season two right now.

01:39:26.000 It's growing parabolically.

01:39:28.000 It is a huge hit.

01:39:29.000 You can watch it for free with your kids on the Angel app or angel.com.

01:39:32.000 It's growing exponentially.

01:39:34.000 It is. 0.83

01:39:36.000 Killer.

01:39:37.000 It is so good.

01:39:38.000 I know a lot of parents use Total Twins as part of their homeschool curriculum because they produce some companion stuff.

01:39:42.000 So it's interesting that you'd offer a TV version.

01:39:44.000 It's the same writing team is doing this that wrote the Squatty Potty ad.

01:39:48.000 So that tells you how funny it is.

01:39:49.000 Oh, nice.

01:39:50.000 So it's a show?

01:39:51.000 It's a cartoon show?

01:39:52.000 It's a cartoon series, yeah.

01:39:53.000 About 20 minutes per episode.

01:39:54.000 We are, our timeline for our coffee shop, our first Casper location, may be this fall, I'm hoping.

01:40:01.000 We were planning on having it open in the spring, but we're in a historic building, so that brings up a whole bunch of complications with what we can do, what we can use, what we can't use, how long it's going to take to get things up and running.

01:40:11.000 But the plan we had, and the reason why I want physical spaces, one, we want to have a thousand locations all over the country.

01:40:17.000 The general idea that I pitch is Mom's on her way to soccer practice with the kids.

01:40:22.000 She wants to get a cup of coffee.

01:40:23.000 She walks in and orders it, and while she's waiting, there are TV screens and they're playing Crowder and Tim Guest IRL.

01:40:28.000 We can get you Total Twins for that. 1.00

01:40:30.000 Well, better than that.

01:40:32.000 The big idea, outside of the general idea, is Saturday morning cartoons, where Saturdays at like 6 a.m.

01:40:40.000 we open early.

01:40:41.000 We invite families to come with their kids.

01:40:43.000 We play content that is wholesome, approved, and good for the kids.

01:40:46.000 Parents interact, build community with each other.

01:40:49.000 The kids meet each other and play.

01:40:51.000 There will be a food catering or something.

01:40:53.000 And then, what's on the TV?

01:40:55.000 It could be Tuttle Twins.

01:40:56.000 It could be, uh, what's the Daily Wire doing?

01:40:58.000 Chinchilla?

01:40:59.000 Yeah.

01:41:01.000 So, getting, getting, uh, supporting the parallel economy, but just Having shows for kids that are good, educational, wholesome all at the same time.

01:41:10.000 We're not going to go near any of the traditional stuff that I grew up with because, well, they're going to sue us into oblivion and stuff like that.

01:41:16.000 So we're going to support the companies that support us.

01:41:19.000 That's the plan.

01:41:19.000 It's like secular church almost.

01:41:21.000 That's awesome.

01:41:22.000 That's awesome.

01:41:22.000 And Tuttle Twins is every bit as high quality.

01:41:25.000 Think Rick and Morty, but with a moral compass.

01:41:31.000 So one of the twins is drunk and... No, it's solid.

01:41:37.000 It's good.

01:41:38.000 I love that you're teaching economics to kids.

01:41:39.000 That just lit me up when I was in first grade, and then they just didn't give it to me for the rest of my schooling.

01:41:45.000 I wanted it.

01:41:45.000 Yeah, my six-year-old comes up and recounts these random facts about Frederick Hyatt.

01:41:52.000 Or they went and met Milton Friedman and learned about inflation.

01:41:55.000 And my kids are like, oh, I saw inflation at the grocery store the other day.

01:41:59.000 The thing I normally buy with my money was more expensive than last.

01:42:03.000 This is inflation.

01:42:04.000 And they're like- And they know why.

01:42:05.000 Yeah.

01:42:05.000 And then they repeat the lines like, inflation kills the nation.

01:42:10.000 Or a couple weeks ago, they released the episode on hard money.

01:42:16.000 And they talk about Bitcoin and explain Bitcoin.

01:42:18.000 And they meet Satoshi Nakamoto.

01:42:20.000 Is he wearing a mask?

01:42:21.000 That one's super viral.

01:42:23.000 It's got a thing with Elon Musk blasting off with dogs in a rocket.

01:42:27.000 But is Satoshi like a silhouette or something?

01:42:30.000 His face gets covered everywhere.

01:42:32.000 You never see anything but his eyes.

01:42:34.000 He's explaining what hard money is.

01:42:38.000 So it's really fun.

01:42:40.000 Right on.

01:42:40.000 Alright, Hank Fett says, building culture is a slow process that means nothing if it doesn't change the people in power or how the ones we vote for represent us.

01:42:48.000 Anything we do can easily be undone by the laws they pass.

01:42:51.000 Incorrect, sir.

01:42:52.000 Incorrect.

01:42:53.000 And I explain this after your super chat, to be fair.

01:42:57.000 Your super chat and then later in the show we were talking about it, but there are so many laws on the books that do not get enforced.

01:43:02.000 That's just it.

01:43:03.000 They can pass all the laws they want if police don't enforce it.

01:43:05.000 They're meaningless.

01:43:06.000 It becomes civil disobedience, essentially.

01:43:09.000 On a mass level.

01:43:09.000 Cohabitation is illegal in West Virginia.

01:43:12.000 A man and a woman who are unmarried are not allowed to live together. 1.00

01:43:15.000 That's kind of crazy.

01:43:16.000 No cop is going to enforce that.

01:43:18.000 Within that same law, you cannot be openly lewd or lascivious, particularly with children.

01:43:24.000 Yet they still have lewd adult shows with kids at these pride events.

01:43:29.000 No cop will go near it.

01:43:31.000 Doesn't matter if the law's in the books that you can't do it.

01:43:33.000 The culture in this space is shifting.

01:43:36.000 We gotta shift it back and say, hey man, leave these kids alone. 1.00

01:43:39.000 There's this, in episode 6 of season 1 of Tuttle Twins, they cover this issue, just looping that back in, is that there's a song that this guy from Georgia who lives in a houseboat, that he's parked in this boat for more than 30 days and it's illegal, and he sings a whole song about everything's illegal.

01:43:57.000 Oh yeah.

01:43:58.000 It's amazing.

01:44:00.000 Anyway.

01:44:01.000 Did you know that if you stop at a yellow light, that's illegal?

01:44:05.000 Really?

01:44:05.000 And if you go through a yellow light, that's illegal?

01:44:06.000 No.

01:44:07.000 It's the interpretation of the officer.

01:44:10.000 They can give you a ticket for either.

01:44:12.000 Either way, either way.

01:44:13.000 If you slam your brakes on, they can say it's reckless, it's an abrupt stop, could cause an accident, you're getting a fine.

01:44:19.000 If you go through it, they can say potentially speeding or, you know, they can make up a reason.

01:44:25.000 Disorderly conduct is the easiest one.

01:44:27.000 Every jurisdiction effectively has disorderly conduct.

01:44:29.000 You could be protesting, holding up a sign, and they say, take that sign down now, and you say, I'm not doing anything wrong.

01:44:34.000 Disorderly conduct, you're under arrest.

01:44:37.000 Everything's illegal.

01:44:37.000 Probably through resisting arrest, too.

01:44:39.000 Yeah, there are tons of protesters who have been arrested for resisting arrest.

01:44:42.000 Yeah, how many felonies does the average person commit a day?

01:44:44.000 I think it's three.

01:44:45.000 Yeah.

01:44:45.000 How can you, like, that's the funniest thing.

01:44:47.000 Yeah, we have some friends who were up in Idaho, and they were singing outside during COVID.

01:44:51.000 They just won that.

01:44:52.000 They just got an award from Moscow, Idaho.

01:44:54.000 They got arrested in Moscow during the COVID period.

01:44:57.000 They went outside and worshipped a church in Moscow, Idaho.

01:45:01.000 It made it illegal.

01:45:02.000 And they went out and sang outdoors.

01:45:04.000 And they were like tackling them and arresting them.

01:45:07.000 And they just got a huge award for... They won the case.

01:45:10.000 Yeah, they won the case.

01:45:11.000 Or settled it.

01:45:12.000 I'm not sure if it was... Or settled.

01:45:13.000 They won or settled.

01:45:14.000 Cool.

01:45:14.000 Seve Rose says, thank you Sound of Freedom angels.

01:45:17.000 Tech question, have you heard of SponsorBlock?

01:45:20.000 I was reminded of it by your lawsuit, open source browser extension and a database

01:45:23.000 of user contributed timestamps for skipping embedded advertising

01:45:27.000 in supported slash cracked players.

01:45:29.000 Cool, there's a free open source browser extension.

01:45:33.000 Watt Fandom says, just got the post that Sound of Freedom is coming to Tasmania,

01:45:40.000 so Australia is getting it, hyped to see it.

01:45:42.000 Yes, it is.

01:45:43.000 That's right.

01:45:44.000 I think you guys posted it's going international in a bunch of places.

01:45:47.000 Yeah, go to angel.com slash blog and all the announcements right there.

01:45:51.000 Yeah, it's coming to all of Latin America on October... No, August 31st.

01:45:56.000 August 31st, and then Brazil's in September, I think.

01:46:00.000 Yeah, September 21st.

01:46:00.000 UK's September 1st.

01:46:01.000 I think it's August 16th in Australia.

01:46:06.000 Are all the Harmon Brothers co-founders and equity holders of Angel Studios?

01:46:11.000 Or are there other investors, other people?

01:46:13.000 There's four brothers that co-founded out of the six that have co-founded Angel Studios.

01:46:17.000 Do you have other investors?

01:46:18.000 Because we're owned by the community audience and the community too.

01:46:23.000 We have 10,000.

01:46:24.000 But outside of that, were there prominent individuals who were like, we're going to pledge a large amount of money to help you guys get off the ground?

01:46:30.000 We have three VC funds, three or four.

01:46:32.000 And one of them, actually, their LPs are from Mexico, which is interesting.

01:46:38.000 That was the first fund that invested.

01:46:39.000 Their LPs are in Mexico.

01:46:41.000 And then the most recent fund that invested is called GigaFund, which is one of the largest investors in SpaceX.

01:46:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:46:47.000 GigaFund is?

01:46:48.000 Yeah.

01:46:49.000 Wow.

01:46:49.000 That's Elon, isn't it?

01:46:50.000 They did 40-something million dollars.

01:46:53.000 They put a lot of money.

01:46:54.000 They follow Elon's companies and put money in them.

01:46:56.000 Oh, wow, wow, wow.

01:46:57.000 Yeah, because aren't they?

01:46:58.000 They invest in companies that they believe will change their industry over the next decade.

01:47:03.000 They invested in you guys?

01:47:04.000 Yes.

01:47:04.000 Wow.

01:47:05.000 Are these guys jumping up on their desks and doing the Lindy Hop because of the success you're having?

01:47:09.000 They're happy right now.

01:47:09.000 Fantastic investment, by the way.

01:47:12.000 We had a good board meeting last week.

01:47:15.000 They're like, guys, we've got $130 million on this movie!

01:47:19.000 So Gigafund, yeah, they've put in—and their goal is, they just say, any company that's going to change the world and that they believe the founders will stick around with it for a decade or two.

01:47:29.000 And part of the settlement was that Jeffrey and I put up our stock against the settlement to move on.

01:47:37.000 Wow.

01:47:37.000 How does that work?

01:47:38.000 You put up the stock?

01:47:39.000 14 years.

01:47:40.000 That means for 14 years, our stock's tied up.

01:47:42.000 We're in this for at least 14 years.

01:47:46.000 If we filtered Disney stuff over the next 14 years, they could come after us for our stock.

01:47:51.000 So you're really putting your word in what you're saying.

01:47:53.000 Yeah, we're putting our livelihood on the line.

01:47:56.000 Koldilocks Production says, I always hate when people say don't fight fire with fire, that makes things worse.

01:48:01.000 Has no one heard how they fight forest fires?

01:48:03.000 They use controlled burns to fight them.

01:48:05.000 Fighting fire with fire.

01:48:07.000 What they'll do in fields, you'll see if there's like brush fire and stuff, they'll actually burn a line and that stops the fire.

01:48:14.000 That's kind of like an example would be like if they're like sending kids to a sexualized system and you're like, yeah, that would be great if we could overly sexualize every little kid and that's like you burning a perimeter around the idea so that they're like, okay, I'm not gonna go that far.

01:48:28.000 So that would be an idea of like fire with fire.

01:48:30.000 I don't think in that capacity.

01:48:31.000 I don't agree with that.

01:48:32.000 Oh, that's how I think in capacities like those.

01:48:35.000 Paul Morris says, become alive, start to thrive.

01:48:38.000 JM13SC says, based, not disgraced.

01:48:41.000 I was thinking just like, not woke, not broke.

01:48:44.000 I mean, it doesn't exemplify making money though.

01:48:48.000 Our goal, one, if you want to change the world, capitalism is the best.

01:48:57.000 Go make money on something that's going to change the world.

01:49:01.000 The only way we're going to get sound of freedom to every corner of the earth is if we make it super economically profitable or else it will never get there.

01:49:08.000 It just can't.

01:49:10.000 And so that's the first thing.

01:49:12.000 The second thing that we try to focus on is focus on what you're for more than what you're against.

01:49:21.000 If you focus on what you're for, you'll get further.

01:49:24.000 I think you get a quicker start when you focus on what you're against, but if you focus on what you're for, you'll get a longer run.

01:49:31.000 Here's a good one! 0.78

01:49:31.000 El Rojo Grande says, reject woke trash and drown in cash. 0.78

01:49:38.000 That was great! 0.97

01:49:40.000 I'm still looking for a positive one.

01:49:41.000 You gotta find the rhythm a little bit, but it's pretty good.

01:49:44.000 Reject woke trash, and he put rake slash drown, so I think drowning cash. 0.68

01:49:49.000 I like drowning cash. 0.99

01:49:50.000 Reject woke trash, rake in the cash. 0.98

01:49:52.000 Ooh, that one's good too. 0.99

01:49:53.000 That works.

01:49:54.000 Reject the cult, and you won't go broke.

01:49:56.000 Be based, and cash awaits.

01:49:59.000 There's really no good rhymes.

01:50:00.000 No, the first one was good. 0.98

01:50:01.000 Reject woke trash, and rake in the cash. 0.98

01:50:04.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:50:05.000 I'm looking for something... Get Woke, Go Broke.

01:50:07.000 That's a classic.

01:50:07.000 Yeah.

01:50:08.000 It's hard to compete with that.

01:50:09.000 But you know what?

01:50:10.000 But I'm loving this workshopping.

01:50:11.000 But really, I guess the idea is Get Woke, Go Broke also does mean the inverse.

01:50:16.000 If you're not woke, you will not go broke.

01:50:18.000 You know, it's getting woke which makes you go broke.

01:50:22.000 Mike Z says, The Winged Feather Saga is amazing show and book series.

01:50:27.000 As a writer myself, I've been working on a book for a number of years.

01:50:30.000 When my mother caught wind of the series and showed me it, I now own the entire book series and am blown away on the similarities.

01:50:36.000 Thanks, angels.

01:50:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:38.000 And my daughter, who's eight, she told me, for years, Frozen has been, she's like, Elsa's my favorite movie.

01:50:45.000 After watching the first season of Winged Feather Saga, she said, and this is after many years, she said, Elsa's no longer my favorite movie.

01:50:52.000 Winged Feather's always my favorite movie.

01:50:54.000 We got a crowdfund that Buddy Cop movie.

01:50:56.000 Yeah, me and Roseanne.

01:50:58.000 Ian and Roseanne Buddy Cop.

01:50:59.000 And Mel Gibson's gonna be the police chief.

01:51:01.000 I don't know if he knows that yet.

01:51:02.000 No, I haven't called him yet.

01:51:03.000 But you should.

01:51:04.000 Yeah, Mel, give me a ring.

01:51:05.000 Buddy cop.

01:51:06.000 It's gonna be great, man.

01:51:08.000 What's the conflict?

01:51:09.000 I think we need to find anti-gravity.

01:51:12.000 We need to recover the anti-gravity tech because someone's trying to... They're not cops.

01:51:16.000 It's like secret agents.

01:51:17.000 Yeah, the idea of buddy cop is just kind of a genre, so we'll just be like two partners.

01:51:22.000 But it would be funny if you were both beat cops.

01:51:24.000 Yes, 100%.

01:51:25.000 I would love to see both of you be beat cops. 0.66

01:51:26.000 Mel Gibson's like, I won't stand for it! 1.00

01:51:29.000 And then Roseanne's like, ah, you son of a bitch. 1.00

01:51:31.000 Only Rosie can do Rosie, you know. 1.00

01:51:31.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:51:34.000 Or, you know, maybe a superhero film where Ian, as a beat cop...

01:51:38.000 He's chasing a bad guy who breaks into a graphene laboratory.

01:51:41.000 For sure.

01:51:42.000 Dude, we're doing graphene.

01:51:43.000 And then what you do is... It's not... You know, in Batman, the Joker falls into the vat of chemicals, but in this one, it's Ian who falls into the vat of chemicals.

01:51:51.000 And then me and Roseanne become enemies, but then at the end, it's like, oh, I'm not gonna spoil it.

01:51:51.000 Oh, that's a good idea.

01:51:56.000 No, no, because I'll become kind of a creepo after falling in the vat.

01:51:59.000 She's like...

01:52:00.000 Yeah, but there's tension after that, you know, and so we've got to overcome the tension.

01:52:05.000 I'm not going to spoil the end.

01:52:06.000 Hopefully it works out.

01:52:08.000 Oh, speaking of graphing, thanks Serge.

01:52:10.000 Let's grab some more superchats.

01:52:17.000 Goremall says I never believed in the death penalty until the Merchant of Death was released.

01:52:22.000 Some people do things so evil, the only way we can ensure they don't do it again is death.

01:52:26.000 If they live, the chance of those evils still exist.

01:52:28.000 And I don't disagree. 0.99

01:52:29.000 The problem is, when Kamala Harris walks up to you and says, This guy right here deserves death! 0.96

01:52:35.000 I'm gonna be like, Yeah, lady. 0.93

01:52:37.000 Not happening.

01:52:38.000 I don't trust you.

01:52:39.000 Sorry.

01:52:40.000 Yeah.

01:52:41.000 Legitimately, it's 4%.

01:52:43.000 The studies show that 4% of death penalty are accidents.

01:52:47.000 They don't get the right person.

01:52:48.000 Think of all the things that you don't trust the state to do for you.

01:52:53.000 Right.

01:52:54.000 Let's not add to the list.

01:52:55.000 Bureaucratize death.

01:52:58.000 It's not a good thing.

01:52:59.000 And the thing is, on the surface, when you get a governor you trust and he's like, this guy murdered kids. 0.92

01:53:05.000 We're going to put him to death or whatever.

01:53:05.000 He was convicted.

01:53:08.000 On the surface, it's very much like, we get it. 0.99

01:53:10.000 Yeah, well, and they do deserve death. 0.99

01:53:12.000 People, so the thing about abusing kids, especially this trafficking and rape and all that stuff, is it's worse than murder. 0.99

01:53:18.000 I really do think so.

01:53:20.000 Murder takes a life, but abusing children in this way rips apart the fabric of human civilization.

01:53:26.000 So it's like... There's a reason why Jesus was so, like, wrap a millstone around their neck and throw them to the bottom of the ocean.

01:53:32.000 That line from, uh...

01:53:34.000 From Caviezel.

01:53:35.000 So good.

01:53:36.000 He ad-libbed it.

01:53:37.000 Yeah.

01:53:39.000 I didn't know Jesus said that.

01:53:40.000 That's like from the Bible?

01:53:42.000 And that was for people that were hurting children.

01:53:42.000 That is from the Bible.

01:53:44.000 Jesus says it is better that a millstone be wrapped around your neck and thrown to the bottom of the ocean than hurt one of your kids.

01:53:51.000 It's like, he who would hurt God's children shall have a millstone cast around their neck and be cast into the ocean or something to that effect.

01:53:51.000 Wow.

01:53:57.000 There's different translations of it, but the general idea is... Who would turn their children from me or something like that.

01:54:04.000 Yeah, he went total gangster right there.

01:54:08.000 The things they do to kids, when those kids grow up, they hold those traumas, and it ripples out.

01:54:13.000 It ripples out, and they act out on other kids.

01:54:15.000 Most child abuse is kid-on-kid now.

01:54:20.000 Because adults start it and they hit a kid and then the kid goes and does it to their peers.

01:54:25.000 But even beyond that, a kid who is abused, who grows up and struggles and can't hold a job and is traumatized and just harmed, it's going to cause ripple effects.

01:54:32.000 It destroys their life.

01:54:34.000 And then all the kids they would have had or do have are affected.

01:54:38.000 And it's really hard to break those chains.

01:54:40.000 It's really hard.

01:54:42.000 People listening know.

01:54:43.000 That if you're the one who has to break the chain, that is a really hard thing.

01:54:48.000 And I honestly think the only way to do it is through Christ.

01:54:52.000 That's just the way you break the chain.

01:54:54.000 Chris W. says, Angel Studios, please create an un-woke cinematic universe of fairy tale remakes.

01:55:00.000 No, I like the original content, I have to say.

01:55:03.000 I like that you guys are telling new stories.

01:55:06.000 I think Cinematic Universe is a good idea, but the only one who's ever pulled it off was Marvel, and only for ten years.

01:55:13.000 Because after Infinity War, it's just garbage.

01:55:15.000 People are getting sick of it. 0.56

01:55:16.000 We are going to try to create a Cinematic Universe around the Founders.

01:55:19.000 See, that's cool.

01:55:22.000 I don't think people are sick of Cinematic Universes.

01:55:25.000 I think it's that they can't do it.

01:55:27.000 Here's how it works, right?

01:55:28.000 No, I think people are sick of the fake hero stories.

01:55:31.000 Like, made-up hero stories, that's what people are sick of.

01:55:34.000 They love to have a universe that they can get into.

01:55:37.000 They made Iron Man.

01:55:38.000 Actually, it was the Hulk in 2008, I think.

01:55:40.000 At the end, there's an end credits scene.

01:55:41.000 No, Iron Man was first.

01:55:43.000 No, Hulk was.

01:55:45.000 Yeah, Hulk was the first Marvel Studios film.

01:55:47.000 Yes.

01:55:47.000 Really?

01:55:48.000 And, uh, at the end of it, uh, General What's-His-Face, I don't remember his name, meets with Robert Downey Jr.

01:55:55.000 in a restaurant, and that's the... It was basically just, Iron Man's next!

01:56:01.000 Then they made Iron Man.

01:56:02.000 And that wasn't even the good Hulk, right?

01:56:04.000 No, uh, that was the... I think that was considered to be the better Hulk film.

01:56:08.000 Yeah, it was the one with Edward Norton, I think?

01:56:08.000 Oh, was it?

01:56:10.000 Yeah, is that the one in Brazil?

01:56:12.000 I don't know, maybe.

01:56:15.000 It looks like Iron Man was released like two months before.

01:56:18.000 They were both in 2008.

01:56:20.000 Iron Man was May 2nd, and then in June, Hulk came out.

01:56:26.000 June 8th was released in the U.S., on June 13th in the U.S.

01:56:29.000 Are you sure?

01:56:30.000 That's what according to marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com, Wikipedia, and IMDB.

01:56:37.000 But it's a small discrepancy.

01:56:39.000 We just loved that story because they went through bankruptcy at the same time when they started the cinematic universe and so we were like... There were some parallels.

01:56:39.000 They were within two months of each other.

01:56:49.000 Yeah, it was Iron Man.

01:56:51.000 Wow.

01:56:51.000 I thought it was the Hulk.

01:56:52.000 How did the Hulk get... We're destroying Tim's universe right now.

01:56:56.000 But I do think that the Hulk actually, like, the story preceded, like, that's where the story fell.

01:57:01.000 But the general idea was they didn't actually make a cinematic universe.

01:57:06.000 They were just putting plugs for the next movie to get people excited.

01:57:09.000 Right.

01:57:09.000 But it effectively connected all the films.

01:57:12.000 And so then they were like, hey, let's roll with this.

01:57:12.000 Yeah.

01:57:14.000 Yeah.

01:57:15.000 Whereas DC was then like, we're gonna make a cinematic universe, and they just crammed a bunch of garbage into a bunch of films, and it was like, this is nonsense, it doesn't work.

01:57:23.000 And that's how it feels crammed, like it doesn't feel organic the way that other things do.

01:57:26.000 That's what's happened to Marvel too now, though.

01:57:27.000 It's starting to feel more like DC.

01:57:31.000 I'm gonna make some new heroes.

01:57:33.000 Right.

01:57:34.000 CS Cooper says, I loved Wing Feather Saga, can't wait for the next season.

01:57:37.000 Also freelancers, I'm going to pitch my novels and movie ideas to Angel Studios.

01:57:42.000 feel like expanding to Australia? What about...

01:57:46.000 That's a question. Do you feel like...

01:57:47.000 We have David's coming from a South African filmmaker.

01:57:54.000 There are entire studios in South Africa, the David movie.

01:57:57.000 That's as far away as you can get from where we're at.

01:58:00.000 What were you asking, Tim?

01:58:01.000 Uh, Ripaverse.

01:58:02.000 Eric July's comic, it looks like.

01:58:03.000 Oh yeah, Ripaverse.

01:58:04.000 Oh wow.

01:58:04.000 Yeah, why don't you guys, you know, make- Yeah, we- we- somebody can connect us.

01:58:08.000 Yeah.

01:58:09.000 Make movies based off- I follow Eric on Twitter, but I don't- I haven't connected with him yet.

01:58:12.000 I don't- Come on, Eric.

01:58:14.000 Take one of his- I don't know what this is.

01:58:16.000 I'm not super familiar with this comic book series other than the massive success he's had with it.

01:58:20.000 He has, yeah.

01:58:21.000 And then make a movie based on these characters- Could be fun.

01:58:23.000 And take over the superhero genre away from the weird stuff that's been going on.

01:58:29.000 We'll grab some more.

01:58:29.000 What do we got?

01:58:31.000 Louis T says, the best movies have been from the 50s, 60s.

01:58:34.000 Hollywood is so into remakes that I think you could bring back the best of the classics and make some winning cinema.

01:58:40.000 We seem to be out of movie ideas.

01:58:42.000 There's gold in the past.

01:58:44.000 I disagree.

01:58:44.000 I agree that there's a lot of old great movies, but I'm over the remakes.

01:58:48.000 Let's get some new culture infused into the machine. 0.99

01:58:51.000 That's what people are craving.

01:58:52.000 I was thinking... Go ahead.

01:58:54.000 Oh, people think that the golden age of cinema is behind us.

01:58:59.000 I don't think so.

01:58:59.000 It's just because the model got gutted and there wasn't a path for real risk-taking and storytelling, and we think that's solved for the future.

01:59:07.000 The carbon age is upon us.

01:59:09.000 Yeah.

01:59:10.000 The diamond age.

01:59:10.000 Maybe let's create that, the diamond.

01:59:12.000 Diamond.

01:59:12.000 Yeah.

01:59:13.000 Platinum.

01:59:14.000 Or Palladium.

01:59:14.000 Palladium.

01:59:14.000 But that takes too long to say.

01:59:16.000 Palladium sounds cooler, though.

01:59:17.000 Palladium's hot.

01:59:19.000 That's how you do cold fusion.

01:59:21.000 Weren't opals kind of a big deal for a while?

01:59:23.000 I like opals.

01:59:24.000 I might have some around here.

01:59:25.000 You were talking about it and then the price of opal spikes and I was like, this guy really knows his stuff.

01:59:31.000 I was thinking of the movie The Book of Kells, which was like an Irish production and it was just new and different and sort of based on From what I know about it from Irish mythology, it's not just like, and now we're going to tell Little Red Riding Hood again, which is a fantastic story if you read to your children.

01:59:48.000 But there's just more out there, and I think being able to give creators sort of a fresh take and a fresh chance, rather than rehashing the same thing over and over again.

01:59:56.000 It would be cool to see, and I think that's something you guys prioritize.

01:59:59.000 You got to give them a hero, like just an epic flaw.

02:00:03.000 It makes the character so good.

02:00:05.000 Yeah, I've never enjoyed the Superman stuff because he's too perfect.

02:00:13.000 Which one was it where Superman almost dies and I was like, Oh, is he going to kill him?

02:00:17.000 And let his son be like, cause he has a son now that's like half and half. 0.95

02:00:20.000 And I was like, oh, wouldn't it be awesome if they killed off Superman and then let a

02:00:24.000 more flawed version of Superman come up afterwards and then they've just made a good, and DC

02:00:30.000 didn't do that.

02:00:31.000 I thought that would be kind of cool as if they let him self-sacrifice, let his son who's

02:00:36.000 now half human.

02:00:37.000 Just man.

02:00:38.000 Yeah, half man, half human.

02:00:40.000 Then yeah.

02:00:41.000 Right on.

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02:01:09.000 Right on.

02:01:10.000 Any social media?

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02:01:19.000 Right on.

02:01:19.000 People should go see that indie film, Sound of Freedom.

02:01:22.000 I've heard it's good.

02:01:23.000 Yeah, go watch Sound of Freedom.

02:01:24.000 It's still hard to get tickets in most of the country.

02:01:27.000 That studio converted to indie film.

02:01:29.000 Yeah, that was a studio film converted indie and now then somehow turned into a QAnon thing.

02:01:37.000 Well, I'm really glad you guys were both here.

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02:01:58.000 And I want to just get your X profiles again.

02:02:00.000 Stop making X the thing.

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02:02:10.000 Got it.

02:02:10.000 Thanks, guys.

02:02:11.000 Great to see you, man.

02:02:12.000 Good to see you, guys.

02:02:14.000 I'll see you over there, Jordan.

02:02:15.000 I love you, brother.

02:02:16.000 Have a nice night, everyone.

02:02:17.000 Bye.

02:02:19.000 Yeah, what's with making X a thing, bro?

02:02:21.000 It's so real.

02:02:22.000 You talked to Kellen about this, too.

02:02:24.000 They were all on it last night.

02:02:25.000 So weird.

02:02:27.000 Anyways, you guys can find me on Bird App, which is what I'll continue to call it.

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02:02:33.000 Pleasure.

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