Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Intel Officer Swears ALIENS EXIST And US Has Alien Tech w-Lila Rose

00:00:00.000 So there was a UFO hearing today, and I gotta tell you, it was one of the most boring things

00:00:29.000 things I've had to listen to and I had it playing in the background and eventually I

00:00:33.000 just turned it off.

00:00:34.000 But there were some things that I found interesting.

00:00:36.000 The first thing I'll say is, I don't believe any of it.

00:00:39.000 I don't trust these individuals that are testifying.

00:00:41.000 I think they're misleading people, and factual but not truthful in how they describe things.

00:00:48.000 Let me just say, Hunter Biden was facing a plea agreement.

00:00:52.000 It fell apart.

00:00:53.000 The judge threw it out.

00:00:54.000 There seems to be some very serious backroom dealing going on that they could not say on paper or in court.

00:01:00.000 And the judge kind of figured it out and everything's falling apart.

00:01:03.000 And then surprise, surprise, a UFO hearing happens where some guy says that non-human biologics have been recovered from off-Earth technology.

00:01:12.000 I'm not going to bury the lead.

00:01:15.000 A weather balloon with a cat in it is off-Earth technology piloted by a non-human entity.

00:01:22.000 Okay, so unless they explicitly say it, but anyway, I digress.

00:01:25.000 Based on the context of the conversation, when asked about non-human pilots, and he said, yes, yep, and then said off-Earth technology, there's no way he doesn't know he is confirming the existence of aliens.

00:01:40.000 Okay, and he may be trying to manipulate the public, I don't know, but we will talk about it.

00:01:44.000 I think it's silly.

00:01:45.000 But trust us, the conversation will be dabbling in the political because we'll be talking about how they want to distract us from what's really going on and that's the Hunter Biden story.

00:01:54.000 We also have big news.

00:01:55.000 Mitch McConnell appeared to have either a stroke or seizure on live television while at a press conference he froze

00:02:03.000 and nobody could make heads or tails of it i think it may have been what's

00:02:06.000 called like an absent or absent seizure some people say it may be a um t.i.a i

00:02:12.000 forgot what that stands for uh a mini stroke they call it but we'll

00:02:16.000 talk about that one for sure And there's a couple other stories.

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00:02:23.000 Others say, nah, it's just he's getting away with it. 0.96

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00:03:27.000 Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and more is Lila Rose.

00:03:30.000 Hey, Tim.

00:03:32.000 Who are you?

00:03:32.000 I am Lila Rose.

00:03:33.000 I'm the founder of Live Action, and I don't know if aliens exist or not.

00:03:38.000 That is an interesting topic, so I don't have a ton of opinions, except it would be fun to meet an alien.

00:03:43.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:03:44.000 Unless they, like, are trying to experiment on people or something, you know.

00:03:47.000 That would be a problem.

00:03:48.000 We're not particularly nice to non-human entities in reference to cows and stuff like that.

00:03:53.000 We're not nice to human entities.

00:03:55.000 So Live Action's focus is protecting humans, and what never makes the headline is that 2,500 humans, children, in the womb are killed every single day legally in the United States.

00:04:07.000 Good point!

00:04:09.000 Humans aren't good to other humans.

00:04:11.000 What would aliens do?

00:04:12.000 So, well, thanks for joining us.

00:04:13.000 It should be fun.

00:04:13.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:14.000 Yeah, we got Phil Labonte.

00:04:15.000 Hello, everyone.

00:04:16.000 I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of the band All That Remains, anti-communist, counter-revolutionary.

00:04:21.000 I think that aliens are going to mimic us, so if we get our stuff together, maybe we'll have a better chance. 0.74

00:04:28.000 There's a theory that we're in a black hole, so everything that's going in is actually coming into our universe from without.

00:04:32.000 I don't know if it's real or not, Phil.

00:04:34.000 Uh, I'm Ian Crossland.

00:04:35.000 And I, uh, Tim, you mentioned earlier that, uh, what's-his-name may have suffered a T.I.A.

00:04:40.000 Yeah.

00:04:40.000 Transient ischemic attack.

00:04:42.000 Yeah.

00:04:42.000 Uh, commonly known as a mini-stroke.

00:04:44.000 But anyway, we'll get into it on the show.

00:04:45.000 Good to see ya.

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00:04:49.000 I finally have a license.

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00:04:52.000 Let's do it.

00:04:53.000 Here we go.

00:04:53.000 We have this tweet from DramaAlert.

00:04:56.000 Former U.S.

00:04:57.000 intelligence agent David Grush confirms under oath that aliens exist.

00:05:03.000 Okay, technically he did.

00:05:05.000 In the context of the question asked and how he answered, he did.

00:05:09.000 But I'm willing to bet that a game is being played to distract us from the Hunter Biden news about tax avoidance, tax evasion, and other illicit business deals, failure to register as a foreign agent, all of a sudden we get this story which seems to be nonsense.

00:05:25.000 But, in the rare, uh, look, It's gonna be really funny in 50 years when they're like, humans made contact with aliens, you know, in the 30s or whatever, and it was revealed to the public in 2023, but no one cared.

00:05:37.000 So, okay, we'll talk about this, because it may be big news, but let me play this video for you.

00:05:42.000 We have Nancy Mace talking, asking this question, and it is a good question.

00:05:47.000 Where's our audio?

00:05:48.000 Is our audio good?

00:05:48.000 Let me get the audio up, and then here we go.

00:05:50.000 If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?

00:05:57.000 As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries.

00:06:06.000 Were they human or non-human biologics?

00:06:10.000 Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program.

00:06:16.000 Okay, I'll say it again.

00:06:18.000 I said in the intro to the show, piloted, first of all, she said pilots, and it seems like he kind of weaseled past it.

00:06:26.000 Yes, she says, did you find pilots?

00:06:28.000 He goes, we've recovered biologics.

00:06:31.000 Yeah.

00:06:32.000 Does that mean we recovered the pilots?

00:06:34.000 Or does it mean like there was a leaf in the vessel?

00:06:37.000 He did not say... Look, I'm sorry, man.

00:06:40.000 If you're trying to confirm the existence of aliens, you need to look Nancy Mace in the eyes and say, ma'am, the vehicles or craft, whatever they may be, appear to have originated not on this earth.

00:06:51.000 Technology we don't understand, and whatever creature or entity was inside of it is unrecognizable to us.

00:06:57.000 Then I'd be like, whoa!

00:06:59.000 Even then, I'd be like, what was it, burned?

00:07:01.000 Okay.

00:07:02.000 Non-human entity?

00:07:04.000 Someone posted a picture of an ant riding a leaf.

00:07:06.000 So remember Barack Obama when he said he didn't know when life began that that was above his pay grade?

00:07:14.000 We don't even know when human beings are.

00:07:16.000 So what would be a non-human biologic if it beats us, right?

00:07:19.000 So you're saying they may have found a fetus in the spaceship and they're like, well, it's not a human.

00:07:23.000 That is a theory, Tim.

00:07:25.000 That is a theory.

00:07:27.000 I'm so jaded on all of the recent alien stuff.

00:07:34.000 It's not fun anymore.

00:07:35.000 I don't buy anything the government says anyways.

00:07:40.000 Why am I going to believe this?

00:07:41.000 We've had intense advancements in microelectronics and in metamaterials that are lighter than, a lot of them are lighter than air.

00:07:49.000 Some of them are.

00:07:49.000 We also have talking plasma, like laser technology that can Triangulate into points in the atmosphere and create a plasma ball that you can move around rapidly on a radar, make it look like it's some crazy craft.

00:07:59.000 It's just, it's too much obvious advancement to start pretending now, a hundred years later, that we're finally in touch with aliens.

00:08:06.000 They tried to pull this over on people in the 40s, 1940s, with Roswell.

00:08:10.000 They said it was a hot air balloon, they said it was a balloon, then all of a sudden they're like, oh no, it wasn't a balloon, it was a, I think it was an alien craft, everybody!

00:08:16.000 What was the, what was the dog's name, Laika?

00:08:18.000 The Russian dog in the window space.

00:08:20.000 A non-human pilot of an off-Earth vehicle.

00:08:23.000 Pilot is a very, that's very generous.

00:08:25.000 Dog was a pilot.

00:08:26.000 The dog hit buttons.

00:08:28.000 It could also be, they store data in DNA, so it could have been like a computer, an onboard computer piloting it that had its data stored in DNA, which is a biologic, it's an organic.

00:08:37.000 Look, off-earth technology could literally mean a balloon.

00:08:42.000 Well, it's off the earth, you know what I mean?

00:08:46.000 It's manipulative language, and the dude didn't bring any real evidence, and he danced around the issues, but, I will add, not just him, but in the hearing, they did imply that people have been murdered to cover up UFO information in the government, and that He implied aliens are trying to harm human beings.

00:09:07.000 I don't buy it!

00:09:12.000 I'm not even sold on the possibility of an alien craft getting from another star system to our solar system.

00:09:20.000 I'm not even sold on that.

00:09:23.000 Meaning you're saying they're real, they just can't travel this far.

00:09:26.000 Yeah, I'm not sure that you can travel those distances.

00:09:29.000 But that being said, even if that's the case, say we'll give that, if they have the technology to do that, to make that journey, there is no way human beings could do anything at all to stop them if they desired, whatever they want to do.

00:09:49.000 We could not do anything at all.

00:09:51.000 They would be so advanced, so far beyond our ability.

00:09:54.000 No, that's not necessarily true.

00:09:56.000 It's assumptive.

00:09:59.000 You know, there could be an alien species that focused all the technological development into Einstein-Rosen bridges, and their communications could be lacking, you know, their manufacturing could be more lacking, but You know, it may be surprising to another species that we've so heavily developed communication technologies.

00:10:19.000 The assumption that aliens will be like people, like bipeds with hands to... The second law of thermodynamics says that you can't, like, that you have to, like, nothing is created or destroyed.

00:10:29.000 Like, it's the law of entropy.

00:10:31.000 I mean, like, you're not...

00:10:33.000 Like, all of evidence is that things break down.

00:10:38.000 The only thing that has been able to expand upon itself and replicate itself is here on Earth.

00:10:46.000 We haven't seen that anywhere else.

00:10:48.000 Well, there's negative entropy.

00:10:52.000 Matter comes together and fusion occurs in stars.

00:10:54.000 But over time it has to create more entropy than entropy.

00:10:57.000 The theory that's confusing is people say you can't get more energy out of a system than you put into it.

00:11:01.000 But people are assuming that systems are closed.

00:11:05.000 There are no closed systems in reality.

00:11:07.000 Everything, energy can always come into you, into your area from further away.

00:11:14.000 I'm just trying not to deviate because that's way too far off where we were.

00:11:18.000 What I'm saying is, in the event any kind of alien life came to Earth for some reason, it is an assumption that they would be more advanced than us, beyond our recognition.

00:11:25.000 But they could have sent, like, drone craft with, like, a bio-organic machine as the pilot.

00:11:29.000 Yeah.

00:11:30.000 And it's not targeted, so as soon as it enters the solar system, it just crashes.

00:11:33.000 Like, they could have.

00:11:34.000 It could be done.

00:11:35.000 I don't think it.

00:11:36.000 I think they're just trying to fund Space Force.

00:11:38.000 Russia launched that dog into space.

00:11:39.000 It never came back, did it?

00:11:40.000 No.

00:11:41.000 Poor dog.

00:11:45.000 There's also a theory that Yuri Gagarin, is that his name?

00:11:49.000 I think so.

00:11:50.000 Was not the first guy in space.

00:11:52.000 He's just the first guy to come back.

00:11:54.000 And the first guy in space just, whoop, he's gone.

00:11:55.000 You know, whoopsie.

00:11:57.000 So, look.

00:11:58.000 Maybe a satellite crashed, and they call it off-Earth technology, with non-human entities. 1.00

00:12:03.000 I got here, I googled it, my friends.

00:12:05.000 What is a non-human entity as defined by the Library of Congress?

00:12:09.000 Fictitious characters, mythological figures, deities, legendary characters, and animals with proper names.

00:12:16.000 Quite literally.

00:12:18.000 There could have been, like, a Marvel comic book.

00:12:21.000 If he's trying to manipulate, to distract from the Hunter Biden stuff, because these guys are intel officers.

00:12:26.000 Sorry, I'm more inclined to believe that they're... If you came to me and said, what's more likely?

00:12:32.000 They're trying to make sure nobody pays attention to Hunter Biden?

00:12:34.000 They've been covering for the Biden family for decades?

00:12:37.000 I'd be like, well, that's a fact.

00:12:38.000 Or aliens exist.

00:12:39.000 I'd be like, well, the first one's a fact no matter what.

00:12:41.000 So if you come to me and tell me this guy's lying about aliens to distract us, that just plays into what we already know, and it's probably true.

00:12:48.000 Also, what about angels and demons?

00:12:51.000 Where is that in that definition?

00:12:53.000 So it would be funny if the craft they discovered was like a flaming chariot with an angel on it or something.

00:12:58.000 We know!

00:12:58.000 I think there's a lot of evidence.

00:13:00.000 If you want to look at things that are just not out of the ordinary, look into exorcisms and the existence of demons and evil.

00:13:08.000 Yeah, what do you think exorcism is anyway?

00:13:11.000 It is ultimately casting out a demon.

00:13:14.000 Like is someone having a seizure?

00:13:15.000 In the name of Jesus Christ.

00:13:17.000 And they're letting go of an old behavior pattern and they're having a seizure while it's happening or something?

00:13:23.000 Yeah, there's a physiological reaction, absolutely, that you can see happening.

00:13:28.000 Have you ever seen one happen?

00:13:30.000 I've never seen one happen, but I know people that have, and I've talked to priests that have done exorcisms, and I've talked to people who've been oppressed by demons.

00:13:39.000 So, you don't really see that talked about a lot at the U.S.

00:13:42.000 Congress, but that's affecting a lot more people than aliens right now. 0.54

00:13:45.000 That and abortion, so there's a lot more to talk about.

00:13:48.000 If you talk to these hippie leftists, they'll say, interdimensional beings.

00:13:53.000 You know, like you do DMT and you see weird beings and entities that offer you things and stuff, and I'm like, I just sound like demons.

00:14:01.000 You're talking about what people have talked about for a long time, just in a different way.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, I mean, you can invent sort of a system of what these things are to you that fits your ideology or your worldview, but at the end of the day, I believe there's God.

00:14:14.000 He created human beings.

00:14:16.000 We have rights.

00:14:16.000 There's also angels and demons.

00:14:19.000 Demons are fallen angels.

00:14:20.000 God's a person.

00:14:21.000 Angels are persons and humans are persons.

00:14:24.000 And then there's animals.

00:14:24.000 So the non-human entities and aliens might be angels or demons?

00:14:28.000 Possibly.

00:14:29.000 I have thought about that.

00:14:30.000 Especially those reports from the military seeing the UFO going really quickly and it seemed faster than any spacecraft could go.

00:14:39.000 That could have been maybe an angel.

00:14:41.000 You don't know.

00:14:42.000 Do angels have vehicles?

00:14:45.000 They could if they wanted to.

00:14:46.000 That's our bodies.

00:14:47.000 Wasn't Seamus saying that angels are not- We are our bodies.

00:14:50.000 Like physical entities?

00:14:51.000 They're not just our vehicles.

00:14:53.000 I don't know what Seamus was saying, but if I understand correctly, angels are not human beings, and angels are very different things.

00:15:00.000 Correct.

00:15:00.000 But angels are not physical beings.

00:15:01.000 It would not be a biological- Correct.

00:15:02.000 They're just spirit.

00:15:03.000 They're only spirit.

00:15:03.000 Yeah, so they wouldn't recover the body.

00:15:05.000 But they can appear as biologics in order to make an impact.

00:15:08.000 That's what happened.

00:15:09.000 What does that even mean?

00:15:11.000 The angel appeared, so it looked like a biologic.

00:15:13.000 But that's not a word we use.

00:15:15.000 Biologic, I know.

00:15:17.000 We're using that because of the... No, but I know.

00:15:19.000 So why is he saying that?

00:15:20.000 Why is he saying that?

00:15:21.000 It's like a car accident and we discovered two biologics.

00:15:24.000 What does that mean?

00:15:25.000 Are you telling me that there's two victims?

00:15:27.000 I feel like it's...

00:15:28.000 They would normally use the term like remains like that's they call it biologic like calling it biologic is weird but like in other contexts they would say the remains of what we assume would be a pilot yeah and it's I don't understand I mean, not that I'm trying to look into their brains, but that's the standard way they describe stuff, so I don't know.

00:15:53.000 I mean, in biologic, is it like the alien just a paste?

00:15:57.000 Is that what it's like?

00:15:58.000 Is it like a goo?

00:15:59.000 A bacterial paste that they worked on on a space station, and then they maybe built it.

00:16:02.000 Well, the alien is a space... Off Earth vehicle, it was a satellite that crashed with mold in it.

00:16:08.000 Could have been a snail named Joe.

00:16:10.000 It's the Russian dog.

00:16:12.000 He's shown up.

00:16:13.000 We found it! 0.99

00:16:14.000 As long as there's so much crap going on with the White House, I'm not buying it. 0.98

00:16:17.000 Plus they lie, like Karine Jean-Pierre will lie straight away, so why do we think this guy won't? 0.99

00:16:22.000 James Clapper lied under oath to Congress, why would we assume this guy won't?

00:16:25.000 They all lie.

00:16:25.000 All the time.

00:16:26.000 Let me ask you, what is the agenda of these intelligence agencies?

00:16:30.000 Has it been to expose secret information to the public, or has it been to protect the Bidens and other corrupt politicians?

00:16:37.000 It's to protect the government.

00:16:39.000 My argument is there's a lot of incompetency in government, and so it can look like random stuff that doesn't make sense, can look like some conspiracy that doesn't really make sense, but we think it's targeting someone, but a lot of the times it's incompetency.

00:16:53.000 That would be my argument for a lot of government bureaucracy. 0.95

00:16:56.000 There's also the possibility that these guys, along with someone like Bob Lazar, I think his name was, right?

00:17:02.000 Yeah.

00:17:03.000 Government has a secret base.

00:17:04.000 They're doing typical experiments, propulsion, normal stuff.

00:17:07.000 I mean, new technologies.

00:17:10.000 They want to scare our enemies.

00:17:12.000 China, for instance.

00:17:14.000 If China knows exactly what weapons we have, well, then they're going to plan for when, you know, they go invade Taiwan and how they're going to fight us.

00:17:22.000 If now they're asking themselves, did they actually recover alien technology, if we go to war, are we going to

00:17:29.000 go up against something we don't understand? 1.00

00:17:31.000 It could be that these guys are useful idiots, who are brought into a room and shown, you know, 1.00

00:17:37.000 effectively magic tricks, and they say, this is top secret, you can't tell anybody, but look at 1.00

00:17:42.000 this, and then they see levitation.

00:17:43.000 We have a UFO levitating on the table right now. And then he's like, I gotta tell everybody!

00:17:47.000 And then he goes and he says what he can say, but he's really just being duped as part of a PSYOP to make our enemies think that we've got a higher level of tech than they do.

00:17:57.000 But do you think there's a lot less PSYOPs and there's just a lot more, again, incompetency, mistakes, human error, confusion, chaos?

00:18:04.000 But how do you accidentally swear under oath that aliens exist?

00:18:07.000 Well, I don't think he- Did he actually say that?

00:18:09.000 He just kind of- In the context of the conversation, you can make two conclusions.

00:18:13.000 He's lying to us, or he's saying aliens exist.

00:18:18.000 The way he- Maybe, yeah.

00:18:19.000 The way he phrased it, I lean towards lying to us.

00:18:22.000 But it's either that, or he's literally- There's no honest way he's claiming a dog was found in a satellite.

00:18:29.000 Or a mold was found in a module that was in space.

00:18:33.000 He was asked about non-human pilots, and he says, yes, we've recovered them.

00:18:38.000 How do you accidentally lie about that?

00:18:40.000 I don't think... I don't know.

00:18:41.000 No, no.

00:18:42.000 You either intentionally lie... Oh, yeah.

00:18:43.000 Either maybe he thought he was telling the truth.

00:18:45.000 Like Bob Lazar, I think he really thought he was telling the truth because they brought him into a room with nine drones and they put a puppet of a green alien and one of them in the seat.

00:18:52.000 And he remembers seeing that.

00:18:53.000 And then they probably had some wild metamaterial that was vibrating so fast you couldn't physically touch it because it was creating force.

00:19:00.000 And he was like, oh, because he remembers that part of it.

00:19:02.000 I believe that's something about it.

00:19:04.000 And then he just got his hand on a window.

00:19:05.000 Yeah, and then they get him to go tell everyone that it was- and then they tell him it was from Zeta Reticuli.

00:19:10.000 They feed him some nonsense so that if he ever does go public, he'll feed the public some nonsense.

00:19:14.000 Yup, that too.

00:19:16.000 And so this guy could be similar, or he could have been just lying.

00:19:19.000 Think about how they compartmentalized the Manhattan Project.

00:19:21.000 Nobody knew what they were working on.

00:19:23.000 So, you bring these guys in, and you're building some kind of technology, and let's say it's not even anti-grav or force field or alien tech or whatever.

00:19:23.000 Right?

00:19:31.000 Let's just say it's a metamaterial that's, um, lightweight and very dense, like, you know, very useful, heat-resistant, can deflect bullets.

00:19:40.000 Like a Cermat or something.

00:19:41.000 That's a type of metamaterial.

00:19:42.000 And you don't want this guy, whose job is to file paperwork, to know how you make it in the event he leaks things.

00:19:49.000 So what do you say?

00:19:51.000 Aliens.

00:19:52.000 Here's a question.

00:19:53.000 What would aliens think of us if they showed up on Earth?

00:19:56.000 What do we think of cows?

00:19:56.000 I don't know.

00:19:57.000 Chickens?

00:19:58.000 Well, I don't know if that's even the question because, you know, bringing it back to children and how we treat children, there's estimates that we kill about 50 million pre-born children globally.

00:20:12.000 tens of millions of pre-born children. So we kill our young.

00:20:15.000 So what would they think about that?

00:20:16.000 We're a species that kill our young. When you talk about that you have to acknowledge that the people

00:20:22.000 that are actually having abortions, they don't conceptualize it as killing. They just don't.

00:20:30.000 Like, I know that you do.

00:20:33.000 A lot of people that are listening do.

00:20:36.000 People that are pro-choice don't consider it killing.

00:20:39.000 That's why they can do... People who get abortions and people who are pro-choice are two different things.

00:20:44.000 Fair enough.

00:20:45.000 Okay, people that are pro-choice do not consider it generally, and this is a generalization, but people that are pro-choice don't consider it killing at all.

00:20:53.000 They consider it a medical procedure, and that's why they want to control the argument the way they do.

00:20:58.000 I think that's pro-abortion people.

00:21:00.000 I think the traditional pro-choice overwhelmingly does, many of them do think it is killing.

00:21:05.000 Fine, but the point that I'm making is the people that find pro-abortion, because most people aren't pro-abortion, fine, fair enough.

00:21:13.000 No, no, no, most of the left is pro-abortion, but most people aren't.

00:21:16.000 I think there's a variety.

00:21:17.000 There's a lot of different reasons and there's a lot of different beliefs around it about whether or not I'm actually killing someone.

00:21:22.000 Is it a someone?

00:21:23.000 Am I just gonna put my head in the sand?

00:21:25.000 But back to the aliens question, the fact is we are killing as a society, globally, tens of millions of people.

00:21:34.000 Look, we got too many chickens in Chicken City.

00:21:36.000 So we gotta stop having more of them.

00:21:39.000 They sometimes make more of themselves, mostly we incubate, so now we're probably

00:21:42.000 gonna give some away or something like that or just move them to new locations.

00:21:46.000 But we have too many. So they'd see us as the lower life-form is what you're

00:21:51.000 saying? No, not necessarily. I mean they would just be like, I think it would be a

00:21:55.000 neutral question. They'd say it is.

00:21:58.000 They're culling.

00:22:00.000 They're self-culling.

00:22:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:01.000 The same as they cull any other species, they cull themselves.

00:22:04.000 I think a lot about the brutal barbarism of humans.

00:22:07.000 In order to survive, we have to kill.

00:22:10.000 We have to destroy another animal or another plant. 0.93

00:22:13.000 And steal its energy.

00:22:13.000 Yeah, we have to destroy and consume the thing.

00:22:16.000 I don't know. 0.84

00:22:16.000 kill things to consume them and like how horrific for an alien if an alien just 0.84

00:22:21.000 subsisted off of light and that was how they got their energy they would look at

00:22:24.000 us like the most horrific evil creatures but if they also consumed and destroyed

00:22:28.000 to live they probably look at us as equals and be very concerned that there

00:22:32.000 would be a war so like I don't know if I if I came upon a species that just 1.00

00:22:36.000 annihilated everything in its path to survive I think of it as a disease I

00:22:41.000 think not the humans do it everything in their path that's hyperbole but the

00:22:45.000 You practically have to kill to survive.

00:22:46.000 And there's a big difference between killing a chicken, you know, to eat the chicken, than killing a human being. 0.74

00:22:52.000 I mean, right?

00:22:55.000 It is very likely that there are technologies, I would say the likelihood is 100%, that there exist technologies that we do not have access to simply by the nature of the chemical composition of our planet.

00:23:06.000 It's possible that if aliens exist, they came to exist on a planet that had more oxygen or less nitrogen or something like that, resulting in a different path towards technology.

00:23:15.000 They come to this Earth and they're like, whoa, this is very, very weird.

00:23:19.000 The aliens could be squid-like.

00:23:20.000 They could be giant balls of gas.

00:23:22.000 They could, or, you know, like a thin membrane or something.

00:23:25.000 And we exist the way we are based on the chemical composition of the planet.

00:23:30.000 Salt water.

00:23:31.000 There is an interesting argument that alien life will be nearly identical to humans.

00:23:36.000 In that the evolution of the eye, based on what we think we know, independently occurred in a bunch of different species for the same reasons.

00:23:45.000 Light sensitivity of cells, and then there was a higher rate of success with a certain shape of certain cells, and, you know, eventually the eye forms.

00:23:52.000 I watch this really amazing documentary on it.

00:23:55.000 It may be the case that if we do encounter aliens, they will be very, very, very human-like.

00:24:02.000 They will breathe a similar atmosphere.

00:24:04.000 Why?

00:24:05.000 The oxygen level of our atmosphere is perfect for fire, which you can use to separate elements.

00:24:11.000 And at the basest level, we make metals.

00:24:13.000 But eventually we got to the point where we're synthesizing- Also cooking food and stuff, yeah.

00:24:17.000 Yeah, cooking food, more efficient production.

00:24:19.000 But look at dolphins.

00:24:20.000 This is the argument that I find compelling as well.

00:24:24.000 Aliens might be like humans.

00:24:25.000 Yeah, that the forms that have inhabited Earth are the likely forms that life tends to make, considering the conditions in the universe.

00:24:36.000 No, no, no, but not tends to make, but would succeed in terms of technological advancement.

00:24:41.000 Thumbs, opposable thumbs.

00:24:42.000 Dolphins.

00:24:43.000 Very, very smart, they say.

00:24:44.000 Big brains.

00:24:45.000 But they will never smelt, because they're underwater, and they can't go out. 1.00

00:24:50.000 Some dolphins are listening to this show right now, and they're like, you son of a bitch. 0.99

00:24:52.000 Like, I wish I had hands, I'd show him! 0.99

00:24:54.000 But you can't, sorry.

00:24:55.000 Can't do it.

00:24:55.000 And whales?

00:24:57.000 Big brains, super smart, they can probably perceive things we can't, they definitely can, with sounds and all that.

00:25:01.000 But they're not gonna start a fire.

00:25:02.000 So that's all they'll ever be.

00:25:04.000 But we're in this oxygen-rich environment, oxygen actually destroys cells.

00:25:08.000 Oxidization.

00:25:09.000 And we've evolved to be able to exist here and we make fire and then we throw stuff in it and then that stuff melts and we separate things and then we extract chemicals and hormones and now we have computers and rockets synthesizing fuels and all that stuff.

00:25:23.000 My big concern is if aliens do exist and they show up and they don't just immediately kill us, I don't think that will happen.

00:25:28.000 But if they did show up, we would not do a good job or we would really struggle, humanity at large right now, with how to treat them in an ethical way.

00:25:38.000 Because I think our bioethics, generally speaking today, especially in the Western world, especially in America, are very broken.

00:25:46.000 And you look at reproductive technologies as an example and cloning, right?

00:25:51.000 And the ability to clone and the question of, you know, can you create a clone of yourself and then take their organs?

00:25:57.000 Can you, what do you, how do you treat a cloned embryo?

00:26:00.000 You know, how do you treat embryos that are being used for research?

00:26:02.000 There's all of these ethical questions that we're not getting right.

00:26:05.000 Do you think clones- We're practicing the wrong thing. 0.91

00:26:07.000 We're killing, killing human beings.

00:26:08.000 Do you think clones have souls? 0.99

00:26:10.000 If they're human, an individual human, absolutely.

00:26:10.000 Absolutely.

00:26:12.000 It's like a different soul from you.

00:26:13.000 Like if someone cloned you, it'd be like a different soul.

00:26:15.000 Well, I mean, identical twins have different souls, but they're biologically identical.

00:26:20.000 I just tweeted out a video of a nanomachine taking a sperm and impregnating an egg with it, and the sperm's just like laying there.

00:26:26.000 And I'm like, how many- we have so many lazy people already, we don't need to take the lazy sperm and make new- Lazy.

00:26:32.000 It's crazy.

00:26:33.000 But how do you think, Lila, like- How do we solve for this bioethical problem where we're killing young people because it's like a resource struggle, I feel like.

00:26:43.000 Without the resources, we can't support the young.

00:26:45.000 We've always had to leave the weak and suffering behind in the tribal life and things like that because you can't support it. 0.84

00:26:51.000 And it does terrify me that they're impregnating eggs with weak sperm.

00:26:55.000 Well, it's funny with the resource thing, just to touch that for a second.

00:26:59.000 We have more resources than we've ever had in arguably human history, and we have the technology to have more people and support more people as a planet than in human history.

00:27:11.000 All the predictions about, oh, the universe is, you know, the world can't handle more humans, you know, the Malthusian ideology of we can't, we're going to have to kill people off because we can't feed the world.

00:27:20.000 That's not come true because as human beings have grown and populated the earth, our technologies have, our mastery of the world has.

00:27:27.000 But anyway, separate from that, though, I think the big question is what's the correct way we treat each other?

00:27:31.000 You know, do humans have human rights?

00:27:33.000 And if we have human rights, what are they?

00:27:35.000 And I think most people, I don't know your guys' position, but I think many people today would say, yes, we have human rights.

00:27:40.000 Even the United Nations says there's human rights.

00:27:43.000 And so the question isn't whether or not we have human rights.

00:27:46.000 It's where is the line?

00:27:47.000 What is a human right?

00:27:49.000 Right, exactly.

00:27:50.000 But I think most people would agree that the right to not be killed is a fundamental human right, because if you don't have that, you can't have any other rights, right?

00:27:59.000 And that is the Prolif case in a nutshell.

00:28:01.000 If you're a human, you have human rights, and the first human right is not to be killed.

00:28:04.000 Similarly, our Declaration of Independence, we're endowed by our Creator, so we're created, they're not given to us by each other, we get them from on high.

00:28:13.000 We are endowed with these inalienable rights, and the first of them is life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, right?

00:28:18.000 So life comes first, and all humans have that right.

00:28:21.000 Whether you're born or pre-born, it doesn't matter.

00:28:23.000 You're a human, you have that right.

00:28:24.000 I don't believe there is a way that you can ever really win this battle.

00:28:29.000 And the reason is, these pro-abortion individuals are desperately trying to remove themselves from the gene pool, but you are desperately trying to save them.

00:28:39.000 This conflict will result in more and more leftist ideologies, pro-abortion ideologies emerging.

00:28:46.000 In our current system, this means that they can vote, and they will vote for policies that allow them to terminate themselves from the gene pool.

00:28:54.000 Ultimately, then, they will reduce.

00:28:56.000 The pro-life element conservatives will just have more influence and more children.

00:29:02.000 But then, they will stop abortions.

00:29:05.000 That once they have the authority, they'll say, abortion's done. 0.99

00:29:07.000 Which means, the remaining pro-abortion people will have more and more kids, and those kids will hold the ideology of pro-abortion until they get too many, then they'll vote for abortion and cull themselves again.

00:29:18.000 Interesting.

00:29:18.000 Well, I think... I don't see how you stop democracy.

00:29:20.000 I hear you, I hear you.

00:29:21.000 I think that if we, you know, in like a game theory analysis like that, if that happened just that way, I can see your argument.

00:29:28.000 But there's a lot of other factors at play, which have to do like with podcasts like yours, where people are getting new ideas, they're being exposed to different beliefs, maybe they were raised by hardcore pro-abortion parents and they always were told to be feminist and to be pro-women is to be in support of reproductive freedom, which means to kill your baby, and that's what they were Indoctrinated with, basically.

00:29:47.000 I'd argue it's indoctrination.

00:29:48.000 But then they might listen to a podcast on YouTube and all of a sudden their world is blown because they get a new perspective on things.

00:29:54.000 So, you know, the beauty of today's crazy media world and just the diversity that comes with that is that people are exposed to different ideas regardless of how they're raised.

00:30:03.000 So the question is, will the truth win out?

00:30:05.000 What is the truth and will the truth win out?

00:30:06.000 Yeah, what is?

00:30:07.000 Because you were saying the right to human life.

00:30:08.000 I think that's a good starting point for life for humans.

00:30:11.000 But at what point is an egg a human?

00:30:15.000 I wonder.

00:30:15.000 I'm like, well, if it doesn't have a brain, it doesn't have a heartbeat.

00:30:18.000 No, when it's fertilized.

00:30:20.000 Is a sperm a human before it fertilizes the egg?

00:30:22.000 Is it a human right when it's banging on the egg's outer wall?

00:30:25.000 Is it only once it's in and that first magical electrification appears, then it's a human all of a sudden?

00:30:31.000 Because it doesn't look like a human.

00:30:32.000 When a unique set of DNA is created, life begins.

00:30:35.000 I agree that it's living, but I don't think it's a human, personally.

00:30:39.000 So sperm-egg fusion, and you get a single-cell embryo that has its unique set of DNA, nothing like it ever before, and that is going to grow, it's going to self-actualize, you can argue, grow itself, meaning it needs nourishment, but it's going to start Exponentially developing more and more cells, developing that heart.

00:30:59.000 The heart's gonna beat at just three and a half weeks.

00:31:01.000 It's crazy how early the heart breaks.

00:31:03.000 Six weeks, you have brain waves already.

00:31:06.000 So human life, and virtually all biologists agree, it's fertilization.

00:31:11.000 Even Peter Singer, who is that pro-infanticide ethicist from Princeton, says it's at fertilization.

00:31:18.000 Human life begins not with a sperm or an egg.

00:31:21.000 It begins at the sperm egg.

00:31:22.000 I think the distinction you're making is a person and life.

00:31:26.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:31:26.000 So it's always human, because that's the classification, but when does it have personhood, is what you're talking about.

00:31:32.000 That's also a good question, but it's like... It's human rights, not personhood rights.

00:31:34.000 If you're gonna say, like, when... So you're gonna roll a ball down a hill.

00:31:37.000 At what point does the ball start rolling?

00:31:39.000 First, you're gonna push the ball along a flat surface, and then it's gonna roll down.

00:31:42.000 No.

00:31:43.000 So if you push it, is it rolling down the hill yet, as it's traveling horizontally?

00:31:47.000 Only when it starts to fall down the hill, because...

00:31:50.000 Hold on, you said is it rolling down the hill?

00:31:52.000 If it's rolling on a flat surface, the answer's no.

00:31:54.000 Exactly.

00:31:54.000 And if it's going downhill, the answer's yes.

00:31:55.000 So is it a human?

00:31:56.000 Well, I'd look at a zygote and I can't determine.

00:31:58.000 Like, from what I've been told, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe this is not good information, you cannot determine a zygote, is it called a zygote, from another animal's zygote.

00:32:06.000 So you can.

00:32:06.000 Well, you can actually.

00:32:07.000 And I mean, maybe on the naked eye looking at it's too small to see, so in that sense you can't.

00:32:12.000 But biologists know, how do you know what something is?

00:32:16.000 You look at the parents.

00:32:17.000 Right?

00:32:18.000 So a single cell embryo has a human mother and a human father.

00:32:21.000 A single cell elephant embryo has an elephant mother and an elephant father.

00:32:25.000 So we know it's a human.

00:32:26.000 We know it's a human.

00:32:26.000 That doesn't matter at all.

00:32:28.000 That's just inductive reasoning.

00:32:29.000 No, no, no.

00:32:30.000 This question is nonsensical.

00:32:31.000 Whether or not you can recognize what something is doesn't change what it is.

00:32:35.000 I can't tell if it's gold or pyrite.

00:32:36.000 It doesn't change it from gold or pyrite.

00:32:39.000 If there is a human life, and you're like, well, I can't tell if it's human or not, that's like saying someone who's got a disfigurement may not be human.

00:32:45.000 No, they're human.

00:32:46.000 If it appears to be something, you can kind of play like it is.

00:32:50.000 Just because you don't know what it is doesn't change what it is.

00:32:53.000 I agree with that.

00:32:54.000 But if someone comes up to you, a hologram points a gun to your head, and you think it's real, you're going to probably piss yourself off.

00:32:59.000 Thinking something real is not the same as whether or not it is real.

00:33:01.000 Think of it this way.

00:33:02.000 There are fact statements, but your body will react as if it is real.

00:33:04.000 But perception is immaterial to the question of objectivity.

00:33:07.000 I don't know, because... If I'm an IVF specialist, right?

00:33:10.000 You know, IVF, you're creating new embryos in a petri dish to implant them in a woman down the line, right? 1.00

00:33:18.000 But my big aha moment is when I have achieved sperm-egg fusion, and I have all these embryos now.

00:33:23.000 right? And now I have all these little embryos that I can then go on and plant and they'll

00:33:26.000 continue to develop into ultimately, some of them, we hope, a full-term baby. You know,

00:33:30.000 I have huge issues with the ethics of IVF. I think it's very, very problematic. But the

00:33:36.000 point is, you know, the IVF specialist knows I'm trying to create a human embryo for these

00:33:40.000 parents that just paid me to do this, right? So I think biologists are in agreement. And we know

00:33:45.000 from, you know, the fact that they're of human parents, this is human.

00:33:48.000 It's human, a single cell.

00:33:50.000 Single cell humans are very, very tiny.

00:33:52.000 Doesn't look like a human the way you and I look like humans, right?

00:33:55.000 But a newborn baby doesn't look like you, right? 0.58

00:33:59.000 I mean, they have these huge heads.

00:34:00.000 And the line of thinking... We look different at different stages in our development as humans.

00:34:04.000 We look different.

00:34:05.000 And sometimes we're so small you can hardly, you can't see you, but that doesn't mean you're not there.

00:34:09.000 If someone's suffering from, what is it called, porphyria or whatever?

00:34:11.000 Where like the vampire legend comes from?

00:34:13.000 I don't know.

00:34:14.000 Someone has some sort of disfigurement or whatever and looks inhuman.

00:34:17.000 Porphyria.

00:34:18.000 So they would say, it's not a human, and then they would not give it rights.

00:34:22.000 Okay, that's wrong.

00:34:23.000 We've very, in recent history, understood this.

00:34:27.000 You may not look human, but it doesn't change the fact that you have human rights.

00:34:30.000 Well now I'm talking about chimeras.

00:34:32.000 Okay, this is a real thing.

00:34:33.000 They're actually splicing DNA from different animals.

00:34:35.000 It is crazy.

00:34:36.000 So if a woman, a human woman, is gestating a chimeric animal of some sort, a human-pig hybrid or something, is it a human?

00:34:43.000 Yeah.

00:34:43.000 It's a, it's a, it's, the fact that we are playing, it's a very good question.

00:34:48.000 We are playing God.

00:34:50.000 with human lives and in these, you know, Frankenstein-like experiments that we're not acknowledging any ethics around it as guardrails, and so we're doing this insane stuff, and I think it's opening the door to all of these abuses.

00:35:04.000 Abuses of humans, for sure.

00:35:06.000 There's a million frozen embryos in IVF right now.

00:35:09.000 A million children in deep freeze right now.

00:35:11.000 Let me ask you, you said if something has human, like a chimera, is a human.

00:35:17.000 That's a good question.

00:35:18.000 I don't know.

00:35:19.000 I think we have to, if they're part human DNA, but then they're part apes, I think we have to proceed very, very, if they were actually able to live and be gestated.

00:35:27.000 That's a big question.

00:35:28.000 Can they actually live and be gestated?

00:35:29.000 A pig with human kidneys and a human liver.

00:35:31.000 Is that a human?

00:35:33.000 No, I don't think so.

00:35:34.000 But what if it's being gestated in a human woman? 0.94

00:35:36.000 No, no, no.

00:35:36.000 What if the pig doesn't have kidneys, but it has a human brain?

00:35:40.000 This is interesting.

00:35:41.000 I was just having this debate with the YouTuber Destiny about what constitutes a human being and I was saying that your brain is an important part of you as a human.

00:35:51.000 Very important.

00:35:52.000 It's the central control center for your body, right?

00:35:55.000 But as human beings, we are our bodies and we are also our souls.

00:36:00.000 And there's a lot of mystery to that in terms of, you know, I think you can observe the soul through nature in a lot of ways, the actions of the soul, but when it comes to, you know, if we were to somehow create a chimera and we were able to do this, I mean, it's a complicated question, which is why I don't think we should be going there.

00:36:17.000 Well, it's been done.

00:36:19.000 The reason... Well, I think the problem is we're... I mean, it's been done, but there's not an ability to develop the baby.

00:36:25.000 I think that's where it's failing, right?

00:36:27.000 No, no, no.

00:36:28.000 We've grown animals with human organs.

00:36:30.000 Right, right, right.

00:36:30.000 That's been done.

00:36:31.000 I'm saying that this sort of 50-50% achievement, 50% human DNA, 50% some other animal DNA from the beginning.

00:36:38.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:36:39.000 I don't think that's been achieved.

00:36:40.000 But that's fiction, right? 0.95

00:36:42.000 Right, so I think if it has some human, I would argue, if it has like a human kidney or something and a pig, it's still a pig.

00:36:50.000 So if that animal, the question is... So it's as smart as a human, the intelligence of a 27-year-old, Can write and paint and do everything, communicate, but you're like, eh, it's a pig. 0.97

00:37:01.000 I would put special ethical protections on that entity because we are playing God when we shouldn't.

00:37:08.000 We shouldn't be doing that stuff.

00:37:10.000 It's bad.

00:37:10.000 It's wrong.

00:37:11.000 But if we were to do it, it would be wrong to harvest that pig human's organs. 1.00

00:37:16.000 It would be wrong to kill them. 1.00

00:37:17.000 I think we would have to treat them very carefully. 0.99

00:37:20.000 And not violate the rights of this creature that we should not have created, like a Frankenstein experiment.

00:37:28.000 It's wrong that we're doing it.

00:37:29.000 And it should be banned.

00:37:30.000 It should not be done.

00:37:31.000 Well, but it is.

00:37:32.000 I'm not denying what you're saying.

00:37:34.000 But it's being done because we haven't banned it.

00:37:36.000 And it's also, to some degree, there's a lot of funding this crazy experimentation on embryos and humans that is being funded by the government.

00:37:46.000 And that's so horrible that we are all complicit in that.

00:37:49.000 Maybe aliens are doing it. 1.00

00:37:51.000 Maybe aliens are telling them to do it, I don't know, but it's horrible and it shouldn't happen.

00:37:55.000 You said the way you determine if a one-day-old zygote is a human is by who are the parents that are gestating the thing.

00:38:04.000 So if a human woman is gestating a one-day-old zygote of a chimeric animal, you would just assume it's a human because it's got a human mother. 0.69

00:38:11.000 That's a faulty logic.

00:38:12.000 That's an inductive reasoning that fails at that point.

00:38:14.000 I don't, I don't think that's the case.

00:38:16.000 I mean, back to the kind of question of, is it a human or not?

00:38:19.000 Like, if there was some possibility to have it, there be a human father, but some, like a, you know, a monkey mother, if that was possible, right? 0.88

00:38:29.000 I would say, well, I don't think that we've successfully done that.

00:38:32.000 I think, I think we have.

00:38:34.000 I think it fails when we try.

00:38:36.000 It fails when you have it.

00:38:38.000 If it's 50-50. 0.86

00:38:39.000 It fails with a female chimp with human sperm, but according to legend, the Russians did it. 0.98

00:38:45.000 Legend.

00:38:46.000 But the reason it's not been done in public is because the public would reject it.

00:38:50.000 Good, as we should.

00:38:52.000 I would bet a large sum of money that China's already done it.

00:38:54.000 Well listen, if we were, if anyone is doing it, and if anyone is succeeding in doing it, I think we need to apply careful protection of whatever these creatures that we are creating without responsibility, without ethics, Irresponsibly, we should treat them carefully and with protection because they are carrying an imprint of humanity and so we should be very careful with that.

00:39:19.000 One of the things that Tim said that I think is important, the idea that we can ban this or we can stop, that is absolute fiction.

00:39:30.000 Why?

00:39:30.000 We ban rape?

00:39:33.000 We don't ban China from putting bigger Muslims in concentration camps. 1.00

00:39:36.000 I'm talking about us, what we do in the confines of the United States.

00:39:39.000 That's what I'm saying, we.

00:39:41.000 We can't ban it for China. 0.99

00:39:42.000 I agree with you on that.

00:39:43.000 The things that you're talking about are going to have repercussions throughout all of human history.

00:39:50.000 Really what you're getting into is what kind of ways are people allowed to reproduce?

00:39:55.000 What kind of people are allowed to reproduce? 0.89

00:39:59.000 What kind of people are Are we allowed to make when we reproduce?

00:40:02.000 Because in very short order, you're going to be able to decide, I want a child with these traits, those traits.

00:40:10.000 And that's wrong.

00:40:11.000 And you can say it's wrong.

00:40:14.000 You can't stop it.

00:40:15.000 No, you can't say it's wrong, but it's coming in another country, in a place with different morals, like whether it be China or Mexico.

00:40:23.000 People are going to go to Mexico to get their kids genetically engineered if the U.S. 0.98

00:40:27.000 doesn't allow it.

00:40:28.000 Then those kids are going to grow up in the United States as genetically engineered.

00:40:31.000 They're going to have DNA from different species that's implanted through some virus.

00:40:34.000 Look, they just cured a kid's blindness with the herpes virus, putting some genes in or whatever.

00:40:39.000 It'll come to the point where there will be some dude walking around with cat ears or whatever because his parents were weird anime people.

00:40:45.000 And then you're going to be like, he's part animal.

00:40:47.000 You're not going to be able to tell billionaires that they can't go to another country and make sure that their children will never get cancer.

00:40:54.000 Like when you've got a billionaire or millionaires and you're like, in this country you're not allowed to do it, but you can fly to whatever country in Europe and they'll allow you to edit the gene so your child will never have cancer.

00:41:08.000 So your child will never have this, will never have any number of genetic defects that you can I guarantee that your kids won't have any more.

00:41:16.000 You are not going to be able to tell people they can't do that.

00:41:19.000 And there can be ethical treatments, depending on how it's done.

00:41:22.000 So I think that's an important distinction to make.

00:41:25.000 But back to the kind of question of, well, they're going to do it anyways, if it's something that's unethical, right?

00:41:29.000 That we could all agree this is an unethical thing.

00:41:31.000 Like, you know, creating a 50%, if it was possible, I don't think it is, but creating a 50%, you know, human and a 50% pig or something.

00:41:38.000 That's not the issue.

00:41:40.000 I don't think it's unethical.

00:41:42.000 The percentage rate of someone's DNA doesn't matter.

00:41:45.000 But just because we can doesn't mean we should, right?

00:41:48.000 And the whole point of a law, the whole point of any society, any civilization, is to have rules of the road.

00:41:55.000 We don't live physically without rules of the road.

00:41:58.000 So what do you do when someone from outside the United States is genetically engineered and now lives in the United States?

00:42:03.000 We treat them with dignity and respect, 1000%.

00:42:04.000 But we still have a responsibility in our country and whatever country we are a part of.

00:42:12.000 This isn't just the United States.

00:42:13.000 Other countries are called to be ethical too.

00:42:15.000 It's not like just Americans should be ethical.

00:42:17.000 Everybody should be ethical.

00:42:18.000 And there's a lot of amazing countries outside of the United States that I would argue are more ethical than us.

00:42:22.000 Malta, as an example, has eradicated abortion.

00:42:25.000 In Europe.

00:42:26.000 So there's countries that are more ethical than us in the West.

00:42:28.000 Chile is a very pro-life Latin American country.

00:42:31.000 But the point is, we should be focused on what is the right thing for a society to do, what's the role of the law, and then we should pursue that instead of saying, well, technology is going to figure it out and eventually we're doomed to it.

00:42:41.000 Think about nuclear warfare, right?

00:42:43.000 We have nuclear weaponry.

00:42:44.000 So we could just say, well, we're all doomed to die by nuclear weaponry at some point.

00:42:48.000 I mean, you could make that same argument, right?

00:42:50.000 But you could say, well, no, if we treat each other ethically and we practice ethics and we have good rule of law

00:42:55.000 and good systems, we can avoid mass destruction.

00:42:58.000 Well, it looks historically, it's always been like war historically, 0.88

00:43:02.000 not always, but over time.

00:43:03.000 So I'm concerned that a country will develop super soldiers that can like see super long distance,

00:43:08.000 shoot, throw really far, and that they would invade and conquer.

00:43:11.000 And if we don't have that same technology and super soldier program that we've just become serfs.

00:43:15.000 I think we can, if we started doing unethical things because another country was unethical,

00:43:20.000 it's just somehow compete with them, we would die by our own sword in the end.

00:43:22.000 But if we didn't- So in the end, it's simple.

00:43:25.000 It's not worth the risk of doing what's unethical just because someone else is

00:43:28.000 in the hope that you'll save yourself because you're actually killing yourself.

00:43:31.000 And then you cease to exist.

00:43:32.000 And then you cease to exist.

00:43:33.000 So that's why it's better to go down in flames doing the right thing in the end than kill the innocent person.

00:43:39.000 But what about the nuclear weapons program?

00:43:41.000 So right now, Republicans are doing literally nothing as Democrats indict and criminally charge a whole plethora of Republicans.

00:43:47.000 So my focus in terms of all this is cultural.

00:43:51.000 We need cultural influence, you need media influence, and we seem to be winning on that front.

00:43:56.000 Sound of Freedom.

00:43:58.000 Did you see it?

00:44:01.000 Good people.

00:44:02.000 Democrats resort to blunt force.

00:44:04.000 And then you just get Republicans saying, well, this may reach the level of inquiry.

00:44:08.000 We'll have a conversation in the committee about whether or not we can inquire as to what this could mean.

00:44:14.000 So in the long run, you could argue that without any meaningful resistance, what Democrats are doing, then the Republicans cease to exist.

00:44:21.000 But I have hope that in the human heart is written the moral law And I've seen this myself, and even in the most distorted, depraved person, there's still that spark of the human law and of goodness.

00:44:31.000 And if we can cultivate that, then we can get these big, bad Democrats in this scenario you're talking about, Tim, to do the right thing.

00:44:38.000 And so that should be the endgame, right?

00:44:40.000 The rule of law is important, but also...

00:44:42.000 Instead of helping people do the right thing.

00:44:44.000 Because we're all made to call to do the right thing.

00:44:46.000 We're going to jump to political medical news.

00:44:50.000 We have this story from TimCast.com.

00:44:52.000 Mitch McConnell abruptly stops speaking, freezes during press conference.

00:44:56.000 The Senate Minority Leader was escorted out of the room by Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming.

00:45:00.000 Let me play this video for you.

00:45:02.000 It is saddening and I would describe it as a seizure, potentially a stroke.

00:45:07.000 Here we go.

00:45:09.000 Is there?

00:45:10.000 Oh, sorry, I gotta turn the audio on.

00:45:11.000 Bring it up.

00:45:12.000 No, I just gotta press the audio there.

00:45:13.000 Fortunately he doesn't speak for 30 seconds so you don't have to worry.

00:45:23.000 That's it, that's the video.

00:45:25.000 He says cooperation and a string of and then just freezes.

00:45:28.000 I went to a fundraiser a long time ago.

00:45:32.000 Political fundraiser for seizure awareness.

00:45:35.000 And this guy who suffered grand mal seizures Uh, was explaining how often he'll be in public meetings or at work and, uh, he'll freeze, exactly like Mitch McConnell did.

00:45:47.000 And people will laugh at him.

00:45:49.000 And he could, he could die.

00:45:51.000 And he was like, awareness on what seizures look like is extremely important because of Hollywood, everyone thinks you fall to the ground and start spazzing out.

00:45:59.000 Some people said I think it's like an absent or absence seizure, absent seizure, where you just freeze and lock up.

00:46:05.000 And a lot of people were tweeting that this may be what it was.

00:46:08.000 Apparently he said that he got lightheaded and he was fine and then went on to have like a normal meeting afterwards or whatever.

00:46:14.000 But I think what we're seeing here is, you know, we talked a whole lot about aliens and law and morality.

00:46:21.000 Our political leaders, they keep winning no matter what.

00:46:25.000 No matter what.

00:46:26.000 Because our culture is dead.

00:46:29.000 Because this country will just walk into a booth and rubber stamp D or R without a thought because it is a dead culture. 1.00

00:46:36.000 So against democracy.

00:46:36.000 So they vote for Pelosi, they vote for Mitch McConnell, they vote for people who should have retired 30 years ago.

00:46:43.000 And I don't see it changing unless there's a hard fall.

00:46:46.000 You think it was TV that deadened culture?

00:46:50.000 No, I think it's a stressed out generational theory.

00:46:54.000 So I would argue what you're describing, there's a lot of truth to what you're saying, Tim, and I think that it is ultimately a spiritual sickness that we are facing because we have lost the plot.

00:47:05.000 Like, what is the point of human existence?

00:47:06.000 Is it to just take?

00:47:07.000 Is it to just, you know, become more powerful or more perfect?

00:47:11.000 Like, what's the point of human existence?

00:47:12.000 Is it to love and to serve and ultimately for eternity for God?

00:47:16.000 Or is it to take?

00:47:17.000 And that difference, I think, if people are kind of wishy-washy on that, they don't know what their purpose is, then we don't really care enough and then we just, you know, maybe stamp like you're saying D or R or whatever it is.

00:47:29.000 We're going in and we're not really caring enough to really fight.

00:47:32.000 But, I do think a lot of people are fighting for the country right now.

00:47:36.000 And they care, and they're raising young families.

00:47:38.000 I know my family, we're raising a young family.

00:47:40.000 We're passionate, we care about the future, we think there is a future.

00:47:43.000 And enough of those people, if enough of us do that, we can change it.

00:47:47.000 It's gonna be painful and hard at points, but I think we can change the country and make it better.

00:47:51.000 So, I don't think it's hopeless.

00:47:53.000 I don't think it's hopeless.

00:47:54.000 Diane Feinstein, remember?

00:47:55.000 She's out for, what was it, a couple months or something? 0.94

00:47:57.000 How long was she out for?

00:47:59.000 And then she's like, I was here the whole time! 0.99

00:48:01.000 I absolutely despise these people.

00:48:05.000 Mitch McConnell, we can talk about his politics all day and night, and I'll tell you, oh, I don't like he does this, I don't like he does that, but there is nothing that gives me more disdain for this man than this medical episode.

00:48:16.000 I have no sympathy, no empathy for his freeze-up, for his stroke or seizure, because he is gripping on to a leadership position that a younger person needs to have to help this country, and he's incapable of doing it, but it's not just him.

00:48:32.000 It is a problem in this country and all of Congress where they're all, it's just, and look at who is running for president.

00:48:38.000 We're going to have Biden versus Trump.

00:48:40.000 I think Trump's better than Biden, but even Trump is older.

00:48:43.000 That's one of the big reasons we were saying DeSantis is probably better is that he's a lot younger.

00:48:47.000 Unfortunately, however, I don't think DeSantis is going to be able to pull it off because he can't seem to get a hold of his campaign.

00:48:51.000 These people need to leave.

00:48:53.000 Youth in and of itself, I think, is not the key.

00:48:55.000 But to your point, I think, you know, if you're very to the point of having strokes and you need medical leave, you should take care of your health and not be trying to lead the country in this case.

00:49:05.000 But I think it's not just youth, it's wisdom.

00:49:07.000 And I think there's a crisis of wisdom.

00:49:09.000 And that's where we have a lot of fail.

00:49:11.000 Even young leaders are terrible.

00:49:13.000 So it's not like just because you're young, you're better. 1.00

00:49:15.000 If you're young, you could be even more foolish. 0.99

00:49:17.000 McConnell doesn't seem to have any real wisdom about him either. 1.00

00:49:20.000 That could be true.

00:49:21.000 I will not argue with that.

00:49:22.000 I mean, I think he has done some good things in his career, but I do think, I agree with you, we need more, we need fresh, not just fresh leadership, we need good, good leadership.

00:49:32.000 Healthy brains, man.

00:49:33.000 Less calcified, I don't know if it's calcified pineal gland, but less aspartame in people's diets, less high fructose corn syrup corroding the neural network.

00:49:42.000 Someone point this out on Twitter.

00:49:44.000 Any job in this country, you are 81 years old and suffer a seizure, they would say, look, it's time you go home, right?

00:49:53.000 This is not the job for you.

00:49:55.000 In fact, can you even be driving anymore?

00:49:58.000 I'm not trying to rag on older people, but there is a point at which you are too young for a job and too old for a job. 0.97

00:50:04.000 We're not going to put 12-year-olds in the coal mines, we should be putting 81-year-olds in Congress.

00:50:08.000 Do you think we should do age limits now?

00:50:11.000 It is a tough question because of that array of technology.

00:50:14.000 It should be more about capability.

00:50:15.000 I agree with that.

00:50:16.000 I think if you're struggling with serious medical conditions, just like as you described from work, you could take a leave.

00:50:22.000 So would it be Congress that votes to have the other congressman removed if there's a medical thing?

00:50:28.000 I would love it right now if Congress voted to, if the Senate voted to remove Mitch McConnell.

00:50:35.000 It's almost an imperative.

00:50:37.000 You know, we're missing a Kentucky representative right now.

00:50:40.000 Feinstein should be out, and McConnell should be out, and Pelosi should be out.

00:50:45.000 It's tricky when they've been democratically elected, right?

00:50:48.000 That is back to what you were talking about earlier, Tim.

00:50:50.000 You know, if we got into a system where we get to just out people because we consider them physically unfit, but they were democratically elected, you know, it gets into some gray areas.

00:51:00.000 You can.

00:51:00.000 We remove people from Congress all the time.

00:51:02.000 Not all the time, it's happened a couple times.

00:51:04.000 You vote to send someone home.

00:51:08.000 I wonder if Vivek Ramaswamy, he had a couple proposals.

00:51:12.000 One, publicly, he said there should be a civics test in order to vote.

00:51:15.000 I'm not a fan of that.

00:51:15.000 I don't think that makes sense.

00:51:17.000 What I really like is, you have to sign up for this elective service if you want to vote.

00:51:22.000 If you sign up for this elective service, you get a voter ID.

00:51:25.000 And if you have that, you're allowed to vote.

00:51:27.000 And so I think that will solve a great deal of our problems overnight.

00:51:32.000 Vivek actually clarified on the show last week, he thinks when you turn 18, you don't have voting rights until you're 25 unless you pass a civics test or do six months of community service or military service.

00:51:42.000 So it's either or.

00:51:43.000 I like the civics test.

00:51:45.000 Do you do or don't?

00:51:46.000 I disagree.

00:51:47.000 So you don't like the civics test?

00:51:49.000 I'm not a big fan of it.

00:51:51.000 I don't think it necessarily solves the problem.

00:51:54.000 See, the thing is about signing up for the Selective Service is you're basically saying I'm willing to die for this country.

00:51:58.000 And guess what?

00:51:59.000 It's a very simple sign on the dotted line that no Democrat would be able to convince a run-of-the-mill urban liberal to sign.

00:52:07.000 But every conservative would be like, I love this country.

00:52:10.000 Put my name down.

00:52:11.000 However, a lot of people are going to say, I wouldn't sign up for that, this country is corrupt.

00:52:14.000 No, no.

00:52:15.000 If the voting base is just comprised of people who have pledged their lives to this country, you are not going to have these corrupt people because they can't get elected.

00:52:22.000 Yeah, but what if some crazy president was like, oh, now all you guys, all you voters signed up for the Selective Service, we're going to war.

00:52:28.000 Because they vote!

00:52:29.000 Because it's only those people who get to vote!

00:52:31.000 So when the president comes in and says, I'm initiating the draft, it's those people who say, recall!

00:52:36.000 Impeachment! 0.97

00:52:37.000 Anything that shrinks the number of ignorant votes, I'm for. 0.51

00:52:43.000 So, limit voting in any way possible, in my opinion. 0.72

00:52:47.000 I don't think that...

00:52:49.000 That it requires service.

00:52:52.000 I do get where you're coming from.

00:52:53.000 I understand the idea that you have to have something on the line.

00:52:58.000 I personally think that maybe owning a business or owning something like that, because you can start a business with a cell phone.

00:53:06.000 So if you actually start a business, then you have some kind of skin in the game.

00:53:09.000 I don't know.

00:53:09.000 And the barrier for entry is real low for that.

00:53:12.000 And again, I'm not saying it's perfect, but I just don't think that you have to go through serving the country.

00:53:19.000 But you don't.

00:53:20.000 Signing up for the Selective Service does not mean you're going to do any service.

00:53:25.000 It means that if the United States is invaded, you've pledged your life to defend it.

00:53:29.000 Now, a lot of people argue that, but the draft and World War I and II and the Korean War and Vietnam, I'm like, no, no, no, listen, my point is this.

00:53:36.000 There's corruption right now.

00:53:38.000 It may just be an idealistic perfect system.

00:53:40.000 But imagine if the only people who could vote, meaning there could not be a foreign invasion of Syria, everybody who had to go fight it were the people who were voting, they'd be like, I'm not gonna go do that!

00:53:50.000 So I'm voting against these people.

00:53:53.000 Everyone else who sits in their ivory tower sipping tea being like, we should go to war for oil, wouldn't have a vote.

00:53:58.000 And if they wanted to go, they'd vote.

00:54:01.000 And you know what?

00:54:01.000 There may come a point where, let's say you've got 350 million people in this country, only 175 actually choose to sign up for Selective Service to vote, and there's a split vote.

00:54:10.000 And a hundred million say we want to go to war for this reason, and 75 say you don't, but that's the point of saying I pledge to this system.

00:54:17.000 It's not always going to be about what you want, but you know everyone else voting for it has pledged the same thing as you.

00:54:22.000 We don't even have everyone voting, though, who I think is well-equipped to vote.

00:54:28.000 But I disagree with that entirely.

00:54:30.000 There's a lot of people that don't vote that I think should vote, is what I'm saying.

00:54:34.000 Really?

00:54:34.000 Yeah, especially like in the pro-life space, and in the space where people have values, they love the country, they love what we were founded on, they believe in the future for the country.

00:54:45.000 Often, yes, many are active and politically involved, but the thing is, a lot of people who are doing that are busy running their businesses and raising their families, and so maybe they're not doing every election.

00:54:55.000 You know, maybe they're not as involved as they need to be.

00:54:57.000 So we encourage more civic engagement.

00:54:59.000 More, more, more.

00:55:01.000 And Mitch McConnell, his biggest issue is not, I mean, I hope he's well, you know, but I think his biggest issue is a failure to lead on fundamental human rights.

00:55:10.000 And the Republican Party has made some strides because it's in our platform that life begins at fertilization and that abortion should not be permitted and that legal protection is deserved by all pre-born humans.

00:55:23.000 Mitch McConnell has not led like that in the Senate.

00:55:25.000 He's been squishy on it.

00:55:26.000 You know the fastest way to get that is?

00:55:28.000 Exactly what I just said.

00:55:31.000 When I worked for these non-profits 15 some odd years ago, they said, anybody here want to go see Death Cab for Cutie live?

00:55:38.000 And I was like, that's like my favorite band.

00:55:39.000 I would love to go see them live.

00:55:40.000 And they were like, here's your vinyl all access pass.

00:55:43.000 Here's your stack of voter registration forms.

00:55:45.000 You're going to walk around and register people to vote, but it gets you backstage access.

00:55:48.000 And I was like, yes!

00:55:50.000 And I walked around back, you want to vote?

00:55:52.000 You want to vote?

00:55:52.000 I did not know their political affiliation, but come on, it's Chicago.

00:55:55.000 They're all Democrats.

00:55:57.000 What if I walked up to them and said, hey, do you want to vote?

00:55:59.000 And they went, sure, I'll sign it up.

00:56:00.000 Just sign that you want to join the draft and fight in the military.

00:56:03.000 And they'd be like, no way!

00:56:05.000 I'm not signing that.

00:56:06.000 And they'd leave.

00:56:07.000 And then you'd go to some, like, country music event where some guy's wearing an American flag, singing about how he loves this country.

00:56:12.000 And you'd walk up and be like, anybody want to vote?

00:56:14.000 They'd be like, sure.

00:56:15.000 Would you sign a pledge saying you'll fight for this country if we get invaded and be drafted?

00:56:18.000 Be like, I love America.

00:56:19.000 And they'd sign it.

00:56:20.000 I think that's a good point.

00:56:23.000 If you're not willing to serve in the most dire of circumstances, meaning there's no obligation in the immediate, only in the event of us being attacked, then you don't get to tell us how we run this country.

00:56:34.000 I like that, except if all these people sign up for the Selective Service and then the President's like, we're going to war, and they're like, no, no, no, you're like, well, you already voted for me.

00:56:43.000 It's called impeachment.

00:56:43.000 Get your get your gear and then the generals step in and it's like what are you gonna like we're going to war like there's not enough time when when the president declares that the president shouldn't be declaring war first of all.

00:56:53.000 It's not his job.

00:56:54.000 A draft can't happen overnight.

00:56:55.000 You can't declare war.

00:56:56.000 You can't.

00:56:58.000 Only Congress.

00:56:58.000 Congress is the only group of people that can do that.

00:57:00.000 And I also think you're going to have greater alignment between the people who are eligible for conflict.

00:57:08.000 First of all there will still be a military meaning a draft will not necessarily occur.

00:57:14.000 That's the point.

00:57:15.000 It's a very, very simple solution that requires very little other than commitment that typically does not happen.

00:57:19.000 So you would equally draft men and women, Tim?

00:57:21.000 Yep.

00:57:22.000 In that scenario?

00:57:23.000 Women can work in factories and women can work in homes and women can work in hospitals. 0.98

00:57:26.000 I see.

00:57:27.000 To help with the war effort.

00:57:28.000 But you wouldn't have them do the same jobs.

00:57:30.000 Soldiers march on their bellies.

00:57:32.000 So if we don't put women in combat, they can certainly do all sorts of infrastructure-based support work, 1.00

00:57:37.000 and even maintaining households if you're more traditional.

00:57:40.000 I do think, I do, what I agree with what you're saying is that we need more patriotism and a

00:57:45.000 sense of a shared project, that this is our country that we should care about together and

00:57:50.000 make stronger and better.

00:57:51.000 I completely agree with that.

00:57:53.000 Not sure about that approach necessarily, but if there's a way we can the best way I would argue to do that what I'm describing that shared project is just a lot of education shoring up good institutions drawing up the American family some of the best public policy that I think we could be doing right now is not affecting how we're voting, but it's affecting how we support the American family.

00:58:15.000 Investing in the American family through child tax credits, through giving more support to the American family, giving them write-offs, giving them more, you know, even a subsidy.

00:58:24.000 Give families a subsidy.

00:58:26.000 If you have a child, you get a subsidy.

00:58:28.000 Especially if you're a married couple, you get a subsidy because we want to encourage those things.

00:58:31.000 Three kids, no taxes.

00:58:33.000 I would say, yeah, that sounds great.

00:58:35.000 A lot of people would have three kids.

00:58:36.000 That sounds great.

00:58:36.000 Absolutely!

00:58:38.000 Or like an 85% reduction in your taxes or something, anything.

00:58:41.000 I'm sorry, married and three kids, no taxes.

00:58:45.000 They are our most precious resource children. 0.97

00:58:47.000 They're treated like crap in this country, especially if they're pre-birth.

00:58:51.000 And if we change that and our public policy helped change that, I think there would be beautiful outcomes. 0.99

00:58:57.000 Because what matters?

00:58:58.000 It's not about our selfish individual pursuits.

00:59:00.000 I'm not going to have kids because I just want to travel the world or whatever it is.

00:59:03.000 It's about children are the future and they're We learn how to love through sacrifice, and through service, and through responsibility to each other.

00:59:11.000 And if we could encourage that through public policy, I think that would be a beautiful thing.

00:59:15.000 Not to force it, but to encourage it.

00:59:16.000 What if a couple of businessmen, a man and a woman, get together like, yo, let's have some kids. 0.95

00:59:20.000 We don't even have to raise them, we just have them, and then we'll get tax credit.

00:59:24.000 And then they have kids, the kids become criminals.

00:59:26.000 Have to be married. 0.99

00:59:27.000 They get married, they have kids, the kids are criminals, they're horrible bullies at school. 0.99

00:59:30.000 That happens now. 0.79

00:59:31.000 Yeah, but would they get credit?

00:59:32.000 Would they get the same tax credits as the people who are committed to their family?

00:59:35.000 Yes.

00:59:36.000 That's a bad move, because you'd have a lot of piss-poor parents in that situation.

00:59:39.000 You still do today.

00:59:40.000 If we said, if you are married and have three kids, you don't pay taxes, you are more likely to see people stay together.

00:59:48.000 There right now, there's a guy and a lady, and they have three kids already, and they're split up.

00:59:52.000 And that's bad for the kids.

00:59:53.000 If we said, if you're married, you're gonna... Or how about this?

00:59:57.000 Single family household, three kids, married.

01:00:01.000 Meaning the guy and the woman have to live together with the kids, then you get a tax break. 0.51

01:00:04.000 Wait, you're saying they're not married, but... No, no.

01:00:06.000 Have to be married, have to live together, and have at least three kids, and then you're exempt from income tax.

01:00:11.000 You could send your kids to college, if you want.

01:00:11.000 Wow.

01:00:14.000 You could buy cars, you could actually go on vacation with your kids.

01:00:16.000 That's bold, Tim, but I mean, we need... We do need to encourage the American family, because right now, It is too hard to raise a family and this should be the, not too hard meaning impossible, but it's harder than it should be and we need to make this country the friendliest place in the world to raise a family.

01:00:32.000 That's what, that should be the American dream.

01:00:35.000 Agreed.

01:00:35.000 And that should be the focus of public policy.

01:00:36.000 Let's talk about the current state of politics.

01:00:38.000 We have this story from the Daily Mail.

01:00:40.000 Oh boy.

01:00:41.000 Dramatic moment Hunter's lawyer told prosecutors sweetheart deal was off after judge eviscerated agreement.

01:00:47.000 Apparently one of the guys yelled out, I think this was Biden lawyer Chris Clark said, I don't know what you're trying to accomplish, then we'll rip it up.

01:00:55.000 He says, you can't get around that.

01:00:56.000 So basically what happens is, they go in, Hunter Biden's supposed to plead guilty to this sweetheart deal where he gets to slap on the wrist and no jail time.

01:01:03.000 The judge then says, well, hold on there a minute.

01:01:06.000 This doesn't include any faro violations, any potential faro, this plea agreement, just tax evasion, right?

01:01:11.000 So are you going to charge him later on?

01:01:14.000 The prosecution says, we could.

01:01:16.000 Biden's lawyers are like, hey, no way, no way.

01:01:19.000 The judge then's like, what's going on, looks at the deals off, they have to go, there's a recess, they negotiate, it looks like the deal might be back on, now the deal's on hold.

01:01:28.000 Here's what people are speculating.

01:01:30.000 It seems that Hunter Biden's lawyers went to these prosecutors, and the deal was, they will not prosecute Hunter on anything if he just accepts these little charges and a slap on the wrist.

01:01:42.000 It only says on paper these charges, but trust us, we're not gonna come after you for anything else.

01:01:47.000 But the judge asked the question.

01:01:50.000 If the judge just rubber-stamped it, it'd be done.

01:01:52.000 And their backroom deal is done.

01:01:54.000 But the judge was like, what about FARA?

01:01:56.000 Well, the prosecution can't lie, it's a question of fact.

01:01:58.000 Can you charge them?

01:01:59.000 Well, we can.

01:02:00.000 They get mad saying, you're double-crossing us.

01:02:03.000 That's what it seems like.

01:02:04.000 It seems like some shady backroom dealing to throw some red meat at the press and create a scenario where the media will say, Hunter Biden pleads guilty.

01:02:14.000 Look, the DOJ is not biased.

01:02:16.000 They went for the president's own son.

01:02:18.000 What do you mean they're going after Trump for political reasons?

01:02:21.000 They went after the president's son!

01:02:23.000 It's totally non-biased.

01:02:24.000 But that backroom deal was no good when the judge spotted it.

01:02:27.000 What are the FARA, Violet?

01:02:28.000 What's FARA?

01:02:29.000 Was it foreign agent registration, something like that?

01:02:32.000 That if you're acting on behalf of a foreign government, you have to register.

01:02:36.000 And Hunter Biden was, with Burisma and probably a bunch of other countries, and he did not.

01:02:41.000 Well, that's odd.

01:02:42.000 You think you, I mean, personally.

01:02:44.000 If the judge didn't know this, and if they got any other judge,

01:02:48.000 and that judge was like, looks in order to me, I guess, bang, done.

01:02:52.000 Wasn't Hunter Biden's computer full of pornography?

01:02:55.000 Well, yeah, of him.

01:02:56.000 Yeah, so it's just the whole thing is obviously very, very sad.

01:03:01.000 But it also just shows the state of the culture, right?

01:03:04.000 That, you know, the president, even the first family, right?

01:03:07.000 The son is involved in all these things.

01:03:08.000 And I think it's one thing to talk about tax evasion.

01:03:11.000 It sounds like it happened and he's pleading guilty.

01:03:13.000 But all of these other things, you know, think about it.

01:03:16.000 We don't, I think, as a society, we're not hard on porn.

01:03:20.000 We think porn's fine.

01:03:21.000 Everyone, we say everyone, most people use it.

01:03:23.000 It's not a big deal.

01:03:24.000 It's legal.

01:03:25.000 And so, you know, Hunter Biden can do all this stuff and it's crazy.

01:03:29.000 And then, oh, but he did tax evasion.

01:03:30.000 So that's the bad thing that he did.

01:03:31.000 This is crazy.

01:03:33.000 Let me read this. 0.60

01:03:35.000 And all the stuff about prostitutes and strippers and it's just it's all all dark stuff.

01:03:39.000 Noriko warned lawyers the deal was unprecedented and possibly unconstitutional and could prevent prosecutors from going after Biden for other crimes in the future.

01:03:48.000 She insisted she was acting in Hunter's interest by making sure he knew exactly how much protection he would or would not get under the deal.

01:03:53.000 But she also unloaded on it sometimes in personal terms about the position it put her in as an arbiter.

01:03:58.000 You keep telling me that I have no role, I shouldn't even be reading this thing.

01:04:02.000 She vented. 0.79

01:04:03.000 Her admonitions forced a tense negotiation if the judge left her courtroom. 1.00

01:04:06.000 Teams of lawyers faced off in talks for an hour into the hearing.

01:04:08.000 They had to hash out among themselves what exactly they had agreed to, then sell it to a judge who was increasingly skeptical.

01:04:14.000 The end result ended in a politically perilous delay for Biden's campaign, set to be helmed from Wilmington and estate, blah blah blah blah blah.

01:04:22.000 This is crazy.

01:04:22.000 We get it.

01:04:23.000 that the judge was it was so shocked. The judge said the unprecedented nature of the agreement

01:04:28.000 forced her to step in, but bizarrely she also said she sympathized with Hunter. Mr. Biden,

01:04:33.000 I know you want to get this over with, she told him at the end of the three-hour slug fest,

01:04:36.000 which had the effect of pushing off Hunter's plea and extending his legal woes into late

01:04:40.000 summer and the fall as his father gears up his presidential re-election campaign.

01:04:44.000 So maybe Roseanne was right about those military tribunals, right?

01:04:49.000 Interesting. I mean, it still blows my mind that he's gotten away with as much as he's gotten away

01:04:56.000 with that this is the that he might be able to still might be able to walk away from this with

01:05:02.000 a plea deal. It's it's...

01:05:04.000 I don't have a whole lot more to add other than it's just really black pill it's my it's the most Emperor has no clothes

01:05:12.000 Thing and that what that metaphor is is like everyone can see that the Emperor's not wearing anything

01:05:17.000 But ever but the Emperor's telling people oh, I'm wearing a robe so everyone's like yeah

01:05:20.000 He's wearing a robe, but they all know he's not and then it's a little kid

01:05:23.000 That's like he's not wearing any clothes. So like we all know Hunter Biden did this stuff. The evidence is there

01:05:28.000 I mean, I maybe we should say I don't know but it is very apparent

01:05:32.000 There's a lot of evidence.

01:05:34.000 And for Joe Biden, just to be pretending that it's like not a big deal is the most insane abuse of power, legal authority, and executive authority in this country I've ever seen in my lifetime.

01:05:45.000 I mean, I saw George Bush take the world to war because of weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

01:05:50.000 This is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen a president do.

01:05:53.000 This is robbing our culture of the truth. 0.87

01:05:57.000 It is not healthy.

01:05:59.000 We need to change this.

01:06:00.000 War's pretty bad.

01:06:02.000 Yeah, but it's been happening my whole life.

01:06:03.000 This is like brainwashing people to be evil.

01:06:06.000 That doesn't make war less bad, but I get what you're saying. 0.59

01:06:11.000 It's so in plain sight, which makes it, in my opinion, more disgusting.

01:06:17.000 Little kids are like, it's okay to lie? 0.95

01:06:19.000 Well, it's interesting, because I think, you know, the president is such... the liar word is a good one for him, because he professes this faith.

01:06:28.000 So, you know, I'm Catholic, as many people know.

01:06:31.000 You know, I became Catholic in college, and Joe Biden says, like, he's Catholic.

01:06:34.000 Like, he ran kind of on, I'm the Catholic grandpa, I'm this good man, I'm the uniter, I'm this, you know, man of integrity.

01:06:40.000 And, you know, separate from this whole scandal, right?

01:06:44.000 He is the most pro-abortion president, the most pro-sexual deviancy president in probably our history.

01:06:51.000 Maybe Obama was up there on abortion, but he's been more pro-abortion than even Obama. 0.95

01:06:55.000 So the White House is a disgrace today. 0.91

01:06:58.000 It is an absolute disgrace. 0.97

01:06:58.000 I gotta say. 0.97

01:06:59.000 And you saw like the topless, you know, Woman, or man, who is dressing as a woman, and had, you know, fake breasts, and is topless. 0.74

01:07:08.000 There were three that were topless.

01:07:09.000 I mean, what a shame that this has become our White House and our leadership.

01:07:14.000 Pro-abortion, pro-sexual deviancy, pro-chaos and unreality.

01:07:19.000 You know, a man is a woman, a woman is a man. 1.00

01:07:20.000 And now pro-this.

01:07:21.000 It's a shame.

01:07:22.000 He said this is like the worst thing he's done, but he also sniffs kids.

01:07:25.000 And, like, inappropriately touches them and things like that.

01:07:29.000 It might be the time and the place because we need, I feel like the earth is in the most

01:07:29.000 That is very weird, too.

01:07:34.000 desperate situation it's ever been in in my lifetime right now.

01:07:37.000 And we need real, straightforward leadership.

01:07:40.000 So it's like coupled with that, it's like, what he did, yeah, it's not that bad.

01:07:44.000 He just lied about his son being an abusive pornography guy or whatever, but like, or a lot, he had his son do billion dollar deals.

01:07:51.000 It's like, okay, it's not as bad as murdering 100,000 people. 0.87

01:07:55.000 Or murdering a million babies, allowing a million babies a year to be murdered. 0.78

01:07:58.000 But we need, like, George Bush had the leeway to take us to war in 2003.

01:08:03.000 We don't have the leeway to mess around right now. 0.99

01:08:05.000 This is like, get your shit together or we're done. 1.00

01:08:08.000 I think it just needs to be voted out ASAP. 1.00

01:08:11.000 I pray for the president, actually.

01:08:13.000 I believe conversions are possible, but we are in a severe crisis because of this.

01:08:19.000 Not just because of this White House.

01:08:21.000 Obviously, it's lending to the problem.

01:08:23.000 There's just systemic rot right now across the country.

01:08:26.000 I don't know if you were gonna ask this, Phil, but what'll happen is if we don't seize moral authority on Earth, it'll become the economic forum and the Chinese Communist Party will seize moral authority. 0.90

01:08:34.000 But where do we ground our moral authority, right?

01:08:36.000 And that goes back to the stuff that, you know, we were talking about earlier, but if we don't get first things right, first human rights are protected for the most vulnerable members of a society.

01:08:44.000 If we can't treat the most vulnerable correctly, and if we can't shape, you know, Men are off with hookers and pornography and women are on OnlyFans. 0.98

01:08:52.000 I mean, all of this cultural chaos that we're enveloped in, where are we going to have the moral authority to go say, we're better than China, we're going to go to war with China? 0.97

01:09:00.000 We need to fix the rot in our country and in our culture.

01:09:03.000 I feel like if Ian was dictator of the earth, it would be the most brutal totalitarian regime ever experienced.

01:09:09.000 It would be one hell of a ride, man.

01:09:12.000 Force DMT.

01:09:13.000 There's no way.

01:09:14.000 Oh, okay.

01:09:16.000 I don't think there's any way to dictate Earth.

01:09:18.000 That's the most insane thing.

01:09:19.000 I think Ian has a lot of good intentions.

01:09:22.000 We've got to form the conscience here.

01:09:25.000 Form our morality.

01:09:26.000 I don't think porn... Well, firstly, I think porn means a lot of things. 0.98

01:09:29.000 There's really horrible sex going on on the internet on YouPorn and things. 0.99

01:09:33.000 But then there's also really loving sex happening on YouPorn. 0.97

01:09:36.000 You see the occasional video of two people that really like each other. 0.87

01:09:38.000 Is that a thing, YouPorn?

01:09:40.000 Yeah, it's youporn.com.

01:09:43.000 If it's beautiful loving sex between two people and it's truly loving then it should be for just them in the context of marriage and it's gonna potentially bring life into the world because sex is designed to do that and so they need to be prepared to raise those children and they shouldn't be selling it for people to watch on the internet if it's truly loving sex. 0.66

01:10:00.000 I've learned how to have sex from certain videos.

01:10:03.000 I didn't know that was a thing! 0.79

01:10:04.000 Like, different positions, different rhythms.

01:10:08.000 And that was helpful for me in the long run.

01:10:11.000 So I don't think it's all evil and we should just never watch, ever, sex.

01:10:16.000 Personally.

01:10:16.000 Well, I think that's an interesting question.

01:10:19.000 For example, I think if you're in a marriage and you are wanting to love your spouse better, I think it's absolutely appropriate to learn more about sex so that you can learn how to have the best sex with your spouse.

01:10:29.000 And the best way to do that is with your spouse, right?

01:10:32.000 That's what I think. 0.53

01:10:33.000 Not by watching other people have sex.

01:10:36.000 Well, I mean, sometimes if people are in an insulated environment, they just repeat the same thing over and over and over again.

01:10:41.000 That's all they know because they don't know there's other methodologies.

01:10:44.000 The problem with watching people have sex is typically people do that so that they can have sexual gratification from that.

01:10:50.000 It's not like a class.

01:10:51.000 I agree with that. 0.95

01:10:52.000 It's for orgasm. 0.99

01:10:53.000 It's pornography for orgasm, typically. 0.98

01:10:55.000 If you let your mind think of the person on the video, that's like demoralizing. 0.67

01:10:58.000 But if you watch the porn and then think about your girlfriend, That's like a healthy, it feels a lot healthier.

01:11:05.000 And I use the technique on the girlfriend. 1.00

01:11:10.000 Well, I would say that sex is for two people who have committed to each other for life and that they're, in that commitment, they're willing to bring children into the world because sex brings life.

01:11:21.000 Even when you use contraception, it fails.

01:11:23.000 Fifty percent of the people who have abortions were using contraception.

01:11:27.000 So contraception is not some fail-safe.

01:11:29.000 It fails.

01:11:30.000 You know, it doesn't always work.

01:11:32.000 And so marriage is the beautiful solution to all of this.

01:11:35.000 And in a marriage, I think you can definitely, you know, maybe study about how do we have sex with each other better but I

01:11:41.000 don't think pornography has any role in that. I've heard people say,

01:11:44.000 well we watch porn as a couple in order to have a stronger and more

01:11:47.000 loving relationship and I don't think that really works in the real world.

01:11:50.000 One of the top reasons for divorce is pornography. I wonder if the end result...

01:11:54.000 I think the second top reason listed for why people divorce is pornography. At the end of 0.98

01:11:59.000 the day you're sexually visualizing someone who's not your spouse.

01:12:04.000 I wonder if the end result of all of this is... And you should reserve that for just your spouse because that's

01:12:07.000 your one flesh you've committed to.

01:12:08.000 Just like the left upload their brains to computers and then humans, the conservative humans just stay and have

01:12:14.000 families and live normal traditional human lives.

01:12:17.000 Do you think?

01:12:19.000 Well, I mean, to Tim's point, I've mentioned before, I think at some point there's going to be like, Actual protection for people that are not augmented, like the way that we have carved out space for the Amish in the United States, how they don't have to follow the same laws that everyone else does.

01:12:39.000 There will be people that are going to say, I'm not going to get any kind of augmentation or whatever. 0.95

01:12:43.000 And there's going to be people that are going to be augmented that are going to have to protect them from other people that are augmented, like real sci-fi kind of shit. 0.96

01:12:52.000 But here's the thing. 0.94

01:12:53.000 I mean, the whole thing about, well, the traditional people will go to the traditional things and then everyone else will go crazy.

01:12:57.000 I think all people, we have the same human nature.

01:13:01.000 And so we have a lot of shared struggles, right?

01:13:03.000 And then bad ideology can make us do bad behaviors that ultimately can warp our natures.

01:13:09.000 But I think all people are called to the same goodness.

01:13:12.000 And so I would say liberals and the left should get married, too.

01:13:14.000 They should have children, too.

01:13:15.000 They should be faithful, too.

01:13:16.000 They should be against against pornography and abortion and all these things too.

01:13:20.000 And I think some are.

01:13:21.000 I mean, I know, for example, I know some more progressives entering the pro-life movement

01:13:25.000 and a lot of them doing amazing work in the pro-life movement.

01:13:27.000 And many of them are as they're learning about sex and life and bioethics, many of them are

01:13:31.000 becoming not just pro-life, but they're becoming, okay, I'm pro-marriage.

01:13:35.000 I'm pro these more traditional values, but I can still maybe have more left-leaning beliefs

01:13:40.000 on maybe immigration or these other topics.

01:13:43.000 But they're very passionate about marriage now as well as life and as, you know, what

01:13:47.000 are seen as the more traditional values.

01:13:48.000 So I think their traditional values are not just for conservatives.

01:13:52.000 If it's true, if it's morality, it should be for everybody.

01:13:55.000 Like, I do think men and women are different. 0.90

01:13:57.000 Testosterone, I've noticed.

01:13:58.000 I just started working out, like, a week, two weeks ago, and my testosterone's been out of control.

01:14:02.000 Like, my sex drive's been, like, a rocket.

01:14:05.000 And I... Important information.

01:14:06.000 Yeah, thank you, Tim.

01:14:08.000 And I think of it as, like, abstinence.

01:14:10.000 The conversation tonight, especially considering our guest, is killing me.

01:14:14.000 I'm sitting here dying.

01:14:15.000 Because she's talking about babies, it's her thing.

01:14:17.000 I know, I know.

01:14:18.000 But Ian's talking about fairly intimate details about his history.

01:14:22.000 To the top.

01:14:23.000 Yes.

01:14:24.000 Oh, continue.

01:14:24.000 But it feels like abstinence.

01:14:25.000 I'm lovin' it.

01:14:26.000 Like, um, if you were to say, like, I don't know, are you suggesting, like, delete all the porn sites, prevent anyone from being able to see it ever, kind of thing?

01:14:34.000 Yes, I think we should ban pornography, and I also think that we should, as a society, move towards, and we should set up, say, hey, monogamy is awesome, we should celebrate monogamy, marriage, and we also, I think, should encourage people to not be sexually active until they're married.

01:14:49.000 One of the things that I hear you talking about encouraging, but I feel like you want to get rid of things.

01:14:56.000 So you're talking about legislation.

01:14:57.000 Well, definitely porn and abortion. 1.00

01:14:58.000 So legislation.

01:14:59.000 See, that's where I have a problem.

01:15:00.000 Especially abortion. 0.93

01:15:01.000 I definitely get your point on abortion.

01:15:05.000 I've been feeling it all night.

01:15:08.000 Because if we believe they're human beings or agree that they're human beings, and this is the pro-life case just boiled down, it is always wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human.

01:15:19.000 Most people agree with that.

01:15:20.000 Unless we're at war.

01:15:21.000 Abortion? 0.89

01:15:22.000 Well, in that case, it's still wrong, because under just war theory, you're not supposed to target civilians, right?

01:15:26.000 Sometimes they die accidentally, but you can't intentionally target the civilian, right?

01:15:30.000 And enemy combats are not innocent.

01:15:32.000 Yeah, but when you firebomb Dresden, because they were running product through the city. 0.99

01:15:37.000 There can be war crimes.

01:15:38.000 There can be war crimes.

01:15:39.000 But the idea of a crime within war means it's always wrong to intentionally kill an innocent person, an innocent human.

01:15:45.000 Abortion intentionally kills an innocent human.

01:15:49.000 Therefore, abortion is always wrong. 0.98

01:15:52.000 And that means not only should we not have abortions, but we should ban abortions because these are human beings that deserve equal protection under the law.

01:15:59.000 The 14th Amendment says that we should have equal protection under the law, all persons.

01:16:05.000 And their state has the right to deprive life of any person without due process.

01:16:10.000 There's no due process for the unborn child right now. 0.94

01:16:15.000 Right, which is, no, I mean, deep down I think most people know that's completely ridiculous. 0.98

01:16:21.000 If it wasn't alive, the child wasn't alive, you wouldn't need to kill them. 0.56

01:16:24.000 I asked him when does he think life begins, and he said sometime after birth, a few months after birth, something like that, I think he said.

01:16:30.000 Yeah, that's the exact same argument that people that would argue for post-birth abortions make.

01:16:37.000 These are the kind of people that like torture squirrels and stuff.

01:16:40.000 Like, it's not alive, it can't I would argue for when it becomes a human, not necessarily, I do believe it's living tissue and that it becomes a human over time, but I want to get back to porn.

01:16:48.000 You want to say every day, if we banned it, it feels like this forced abstinence mentality that I've been told my whole life doesn't work.

01:16:56.000 Like if you tell a kid, don't have sex, they just go off and get pregnant when they're 15 because they don't have any sexual education and sort of prevent it. 0.97

01:17:02.000 Oh, anyway, you know what I mean.

01:17:03.000 Well, there's a multi-billion dollar pornography industry, right? 1.00

01:17:08.000 And so we can penalize that to say, no, you can't be, because there's a lot of sex trafficking that happens in it.

01:17:13.000 A lot of children that are, I mean, the harms associated with the creation of porn are so numerous.

01:17:19.000 Children caught up in it.

01:17:20.000 I mean, child pornography, child assault material has been proliferating online.

01:17:25.000 Once you start talking about, once you start talking about like child pornography, now you're talking about a different topic because I understand that there are correlations and there are links, but the topic that we're discussing, if we're talking about adult entertainment, that's adult stuff, because no one at this table is in any way going to be pro-child rape or anything, which is all it is.

01:17:51.000 So the associations with adult movies and then with child rape, I think they're far enough different where we can at least say, hey, The adult industry doesn't lead to child rape.

01:18:05.000 Child rape happens in- Let's jump to this story.

01:18:06.000 I hear what you're saying, but the reality is, with the proliferation of pornography in general, it creates sexual appetites and addictions that need to be continually stimulated with going down this rabbit hole of more and more violent or rape-centered pornography.

01:18:20.000 That's the same.

01:18:21.000 Or that against children.

01:18:22.000 Let's move on.

01:18:22.000 So it's all interconnected, unfortunately, because it's all, I think, ultimately abusive.

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01:18:30.000 Kevin Spacey acquitted of sexual assault charges in London.

01:18:33.000 There's a lot for- a lot for me to process after what has just happened today.

01:18:37.000 Spacey said he was found not guilty of the nine sexual assault charges filed against him in the United Kingdom.

01:18:42.000 And the interesting thing I'm seeing from this story is that there are a lot of people- I'm seeing it split.

01:18:48.000 Online, they're saying, we know he's guilty anyway.

01:18:51.000 And there are other people saying, this proves the Me Too moral panic was complete BS.

01:18:56.000 So what do you think?

01:18:58.000 Is Kevin Spacey guilty no matter what, even if the court found him not guilty?

01:19:01.000 Because I think there was one report that he was on, he was witnessed being like on one of the planes with Epstein or something like that?

01:19:08.000 Or was he falsely accused because of Me Too woke victim culture?

01:19:13.000 My first thought is that he's innocent until he's proven guilty.

01:19:16.000 And if he wasn't proven guilty, he's innocent.

01:19:18.000 That's just the way our legal system works.

01:19:19.000 Apparently this is in the UK.

01:19:20.000 It doesn't work like that in the UK.

01:19:22.000 I don't know.

01:19:23.000 I don't know enough about the accusations against him, so it's kind of hard to say.

01:19:27.000 He grabbed a bunch of dudes junk? 0.84

01:19:30.000 I mean, that's horrible.

01:19:32.000 If that is true, it should not have happened and it's wrong.

01:19:35.000 So I think it's hard to kind of... I wouldn't speculate myself just because I don't... I haven't studied the allegations against him.

01:19:42.000 I do think that just because something doesn't turn up a guilty verdict in a court of law doesn't mean the person's automatically innocent, of course.

01:19:50.000 They're innocent in terms of the law, but that doesn't mean in society that's a good person to hang out with necessarily.

01:19:55.000 So I think it depends on what were the allegations and I'd have to...

01:19:59.000 That's a good point.

01:20:01.000 I'm not saying he didn't do it.

01:20:03.000 It's different.

01:20:03.000 He's just legally innocent.

01:20:04.000 I think some of the people who accused him died, right?

01:20:06.000 Court of Law matters a lot. I think some of the people who accused him died, right? I've heard that. Something like

01:20:06.000 I've heard that.

01:20:11.000 that.

01:20:12.000 I do think this is part, you know, back to what you were saying, you know, I think you were kind of speaking to

01:20:18.000 maybe a concern about authoritarianism.

01:20:20.000 them without my one I'm very, very anti-government.

01:20:24.000 I see.

01:20:24.000 And I think there's a lot of wisdom to being wary of a government getting too big and too powerful.

01:20:30.000 So I think there's a lot of wisdom to that.

01:20:32.000 But I'm speaking more when I talk about sexual ethics, less about the government imposing exactly whether or not you make sexual mistakes.

01:20:39.000 I don't think that's even possible, right?

01:20:41.000 It's one thing to ban pornographers from selling porn.

01:20:44.000 It's another thing to have a camera in every house to see, are you looking at porn?

01:20:47.000 That I would never say is the right thing to do.

01:20:50.000 That's abuse in and of itself.

01:20:52.000 But I think the question that I'm more speaking to is, what's the right way for us to behave in a society?

01:20:56.000 What's healthiest?

01:20:57.000 What's the moral path?

01:20:57.000 What's best?

01:20:59.000 And this whole Kevin Spacey story, Unfortunately, whether or not he is the abuser, you know, it's inconclusive, it seems, from just this headline.

01:21:07.000 We don't know.

01:21:07.000 I mean, the court found him, you know, not guilty.

01:21:09.000 I haven't studied his case, is what I'm saying.

01:21:11.000 He's innocent in this case, obviously, with the court.

01:21:14.000 But there is a, I would just say, all around society, there is chaos in male-female relationships.

01:21:20.000 I think we all agree with that.

01:21:22.000 People are, and there was a Pew research that came out saying that the large majority of people

01:21:26.000 are unhappy with dating.

01:21:27.000 Most think dating is worse today than it's ever been.

01:21:31.000 You know, people, you know, a lot of women feel objectified and then they're objectifying themselves and only fans.

01:21:36.000 A lot of men feel like there's no women to date that are good anymore.

01:21:38.000 So there's total chaos.

01:21:40.000 And I would argue that's because we've forgotten first principles about the moral way to treat each other,

01:21:45.000 that sex belongs within marriage, that sex can bring life into the world.

01:21:48.000 So you should be prepared for that and take responsibility for that.

01:21:51.000 When we forget these first principles, then we open the door to all this chaos, and I think we're living the fruit of the sexual revolution, which basically uprooted all sexual mores and said, as long as there's consent, you're good to go whatever, and I think that's brought a lot of unhappiness and brokenness today.

01:22:08.000 I think that there's a lot of truth to your point there.

01:22:15.000 The gender roles, the fact that men and women don't have the clear distinction as to what is a man's role and what is a woman's role in relationships nowadays, I think is something that you're seeing the effects.

01:22:28.000 Like you said, you're seeing the effects in society.

01:22:29.000 I think you've got a lot.

01:22:32.000 Socialization was a huge element of marriage as well.

01:22:35.000 For women, who were mostly hanging out with other women, they want to have a husband they can brag about to their friends. 1.00

01:22:41.000 And they also want a good husband. 0.95

01:22:42.000 And men, not only want a good wife, but they want someone that they can be proud of.

01:22:45.000 And both the men and the women are like, I feel really good when people see who I'm with.

01:22:50.000 Well, marriage is such a beautiful institution, and as a Catholic, it's a sacrament.

01:22:54.000 You know, it's such a beautiful thing, because it not only can bring new life into the world, and I think that is the primary purpose of marriage, is the ability to bring life, and some people maybe are infertile, but most people, they get that beautiful opportunity, but it also brings harmony between the sexes, where we're working in this beautiful way in harmony together, and we've lost harmony in a lot of ways in our culture.

01:23:14.000 Like, psychically deadened to the harmony of nature?

01:23:18.000 Yeah, I don't know why.

01:23:19.000 I think it's dietary, personally.

01:23:20.000 Could be a lot of stuff.

01:23:21.000 Social media is messing people up, staring at computer screens for more than two hours a day.

01:23:25.000 I think if there's one thing that you could do to change that, I think getting rid of no-fault divorce would have a massive, massive impact on American society.

01:23:36.000 I think that, like, the Knowles, I think it was Michael Knowles that said, like, if, like, the way that him and his wife were saying, there will never be a divorce, because if there is a divorce, whoever proposes the divorce gives up everything or something like that.

01:23:49.000 Oh, that's a good idea.

01:23:50.000 Yeah, whoever proposes the divorce should be saying, look, I'll give up everything.

01:23:55.000 Not like, I want a divorce and I'm getting half of the... That's the prenup.

01:23:59.000 It just says anybody who proposes a divorce removes all rights to any claims and any property and etc etc.

01:24:07.000 I mean that might be good.

01:24:09.000 Abuse or like you know infidelity or something so one of the old rules of that you could get a divorce like I just think abolish no fault divorce.

01:24:16.000 Yeah, I think that getting rid of no-fault divorce would be a good thing, because nowadays people do look at marriage like, I'm extra serious.

01:24:27.000 Tax credit?

01:24:28.000 Yeah, because I think that men might think like that.

01:24:30.000 I don't think women think of things like that. 1.00

01:24:32.000 I think that they like the I'm married kind of mystique that goes with it more than men would.

01:24:38.000 But at the same time, there are plenty of people that would get married just for tax crediting.

01:24:42.000 After, um, last year after Roe v. Wade was overturned, there was all of these articles, and we just did a, actually a satirical video at Live Action about these articles, but they were from, like, Vox and these different news companies about all these people who said, my sex life is gonna change forever because Roe was overturned.

01:24:58.000 Now I'm gonna have to be really careful about who I have sex with. 0.79

01:25:01.000 Wasn't it really funny how the leftist women were like, we're gonna boycott sex, and then conservatives were like, no, wait, don't.

01:25:09.000 I mean, first of all, it is a fact that abortion is backup contraception, and even the people who claim contraception stops abortions, they know that, and they're lying.

01:25:20.000 Contraception only increases the abortion rate ultimately because it gives people this false sense of security that, oh, I'm going to have sex, I'm not ready for being a parent, I'm not even married, I'm going to have sex.

01:25:32.000 Okay, well abortion is my backup contraception.

01:25:32.000 I get pregnant.

01:25:34.000 That's the way it's operating.

01:25:35.000 That's why we have 2,500 abortions a day in this country. 1.00

01:25:38.000 I would say more important even than, you know, your case for abolishing no-fault divorce, if we abolished abortion, which is killing people, then it would change sexual ethics, and it already is changing sexual ethics in places where, even from the people who say, yeah, it's changing my sexual behavior, places where abortion is illegal.

01:25:56.000 My concern, though, is that people do it in back alleys with the most gruesome methodologies.

01:26:01.000 If we don't change the culture's mentality before we legislate, that they can't do it anymore.

01:26:05.000 We've got to do both, because the law is the teacher.

01:26:07.000 So, you know, a lot of women and a lot of men who are pressuring for abortions, if abortion's not readily accessible, many of them don't have abortion.

01:26:15.000 So the law does influence your behavior.

01:26:17.000 We know that with seatbelts, you know, when there's a law to wear a seatbelt, you wear the seatbelt.

01:26:21.000 Back in the 80s, no one, I think, wore seatbelts because there was no law.

01:26:25.000 I'm from New Hampshire and we don't have seatbelt laws up there, but I wear my seatbelt.

01:26:30.000 We're in Virginia, guys.

01:26:31.000 Seatbelt laws are wrong. 1.00

01:26:31.000 Safety first. 1.00

01:26:33.000 But bottom line is the law does matter, but I agree with you.

01:26:36.000 I think you're making a good point that the culture matters a ton, too.

01:26:40.000 And that's where, you know, talking about this stuff is so important and having open conversations.

01:26:44.000 Because I think a lot of people, I think ultimately we want love, you know, like sex at the end.

01:26:50.000 Yes, you know, there's sexual gratification. 0.85

01:26:53.000 But most people today, I think deep down people in general, they want love.

01:26:56.000 They want a loving relationship.

01:26:57.000 You know, that girl of your dreams, that man of your dreams. 0.78

01:27:00.000 They're not just looking for an orgasm.

01:27:02.000 They're looking at the end of the day for love and people who just hook up ultimately

01:27:06.000 feel empty in the end.

01:27:08.000 So talking about how do we actually achieve that?

01:27:11.000 Well, if you start putting sex back into marriage and getting to know each other before sleeping together, like really get to know each other, really understand, is this someone I share values with?

01:27:20.000 What I want to raise a family with, you know, that would do so much to improve relationships.

01:27:23.000 But how, what do you think about no fault divorce?

01:27:25.000 Are you, would you be open to getting rid of it?

01:27:28.000 You know what?

01:27:29.000 I'm torn because, first of all, I would have to study a lot more what the nuances might be because I do think we have an epidemic of abuse today.

01:27:39.000 We do have a ton of abuse.

01:27:40.000 But that's nothing to do with no-fault divorce.

01:27:42.000 If someone's abusing their spouse, they can get a divorce.

01:27:45.000 It's not caused by no-fault divorce.

01:27:45.000 I agree.

01:27:47.000 I agree with that.

01:27:47.000 No, no, no.

01:27:48.000 Abuse is fault.

01:27:49.000 Meaning, if you abolish no-fault divorce and abuse occurs, you get a divorce.

01:27:54.000 It's true in theory, right?

01:27:56.000 But in practice, it's very tricky.

01:27:57.000 Because in practice, proving abuse when it's he said, she said in a court of law can be very difficult.

01:28:03.000 So, I'm not saying we shouldn't get rid of no-fault divorce. 0.91

01:28:06.000 I'm very much open to that because I do think we have a divorce problem and we're just divorcing for stupid reasons and I think that's bad. 0.88

01:28:12.000 I think we're just... I want to follow my dreams. 0.83

01:28:15.000 We weren't compatible anymore and then there's these beautiful children who are left in the chaos of that.

01:28:19.000 So long as no-fault divorce exists, there's no marriage.

01:28:23.000 That's kind of how I felt.

01:28:24.000 Like, I got burned in my 20s.

01:28:26.000 There's no commitment, till death do us part, if at any point you can just sign a paper and it ceases to exist.

01:28:31.000 Yeah.

01:28:32.000 I mean, I agree that it's way too easy to get a divorce.

01:28:36.000 I agree with that.

01:28:37.000 So I think there's maybe varying degrees of what you mean by abolishing no-fault divorce, but I agree that it's too easy to divorce, and too many people do it too quickly.

01:28:44.000 Don't get married! 1.00

01:28:44.000 Absolutely. 1.00

01:28:45.000 It's that simple.

01:28:47.000 Well, even more importantly than don't get married if you're just going to quit on the marriage.

01:28:52.000 Because I think that's absolutely right.

01:28:54.000 I think we also should be saying, and this is very controversial because this is not the way people think today, don't have sex if you're not married.

01:29:02.000 And people, you know, a lot of people are like, well that, you know, I remember telling, I think it was Todd.

01:29:06.000 I don't think you're going to win that one. 0.96

01:29:08.000 Because people will get married just to have sex. 0.99

01:29:09.000 That's not a good thing either.

01:29:11.000 That too, but I think you're going to find, people are going to bang, you can't stop them.

01:29:18.000 I mean, people are always going to do a lot of things, right?

01:29:21.000 People be horny.

01:29:23.000 But I think it's more, I do think it's possible to have self-control.

01:29:26.000 I think it is.

01:29:27.000 I think it's possible to have a sexual attraction for someone and not hook up with them.

01:29:31.000 But that's you, right?

01:29:31.000 100%.

01:29:34.000 Like, the reason these things exist is because humans do these things.

01:29:37.000 That's it.

01:29:37.000 If it were as simple to say, like, people should have self-control, these things wouldn't exist.

01:29:40.000 They'd have self-control.

01:29:41.000 But they don't want to.

01:29:42.000 That's why I brought up the point about liberals ultimately just downloading their brains into computers, because they're chasing carnal pleasure. 1.00

01:29:50.000 They don't care about anything else.

01:29:52.000 They don't care for the future.

01:29:53.000 They care about short-term gratification.

01:29:55.000 I do think you can work on your behavior, so I know a guy as an example.

01:29:55.000 That's it.

01:29:59.000 Hold on, I know a guy as an example.

01:30:02.000 There has to be desire.

01:30:04.000 I'm an alcoholic, I don't drink anymore, but you can't get someone that's doing something, whether it's detrimental to themselves or not, you can't get them to change behavior unless they want to.

01:30:17.000 So the fundamental thing that you're talking about of, oh, we need to get people to change their behavior, I get it, but you're dealing with people that have a totally different philosophical point of view from you.

01:30:30.000 This is something that I've had to come to terms with in the past five or ten years or so, but there are people out there whose starting principles are so different, they don't even believe that you can engage in a conversation honestly with another person.

01:30:46.000 They believe it's all power games.

01:30:48.000 So the idea that you can get people, hey, you know, you just shouldn't have sex when you're talking to people that are atheists or people that are agnostic and stuff, I don't think that that's an actual... It's like speaking gibberish.

01:30:59.000 Yeah, it's starting from a place... Well, it's a non-starter, I guess. 0.79

01:31:04.000 So I talk to a lot of young people, Gen Zers, who feel, and millennials, you know, over the years, back when they were younger, but who feel like if they didn't have sex, they were the weirdo. 0.59

01:31:15.000 That if they were the Virgin, they were the weirdo. 0.79

01:31:17.000 It's like the, you know, the 40-year-old Virgin movie, you know, like the weirdo, right? 0.96

01:31:21.000 The weirdo.

01:31:22.000 But I think that's the problem, right?

01:31:24.000 So it's one thing where people make their own decisions, right?

01:31:26.000 We can't control what people do.

01:31:27.000 I agree with you 100%.

01:31:28.000 But I do think we can change the narrative on this.

01:31:31.000 I don't think that it's pure pressure.

01:31:33.000 I think that it comes from inside of people.

01:31:35.000 Like, I think the urges that we have, the urge to eat, isn't because homie told you that steak's real good over and over and over.

01:31:41.000 It's because you have an urge to eat.

01:31:44.000 And actually, I did not eat until my friend was like, have you tried it?

01:31:47.000 And I was like, I'll give it a shot.

01:31:49.000 And that's one of the urges.

01:31:51.000 But if there's a lot of societal forces, like, you know, we all love ice cream.

01:31:54.000 At least, I'm going to guess you all like it.

01:31:56.000 I love ice cream.

01:31:56.000 I haven't eaten it in a long time.

01:31:57.000 Ice cream is bad.

01:31:58.000 But that's it.

01:31:59.000 You haven't eaten in a long time because you have these ideals and this view now that maybe if I eat too much ice cream it will make me sick, right?

01:32:06.000 And so I think and you know what's good for my body, right?

01:32:09.000 What is the right thing to do for my body?

01:32:11.000 So similarly I would argue we're not talking enough about the harm of sex before outside of marriage.

01:32:17.000 We're just saying, well everyone's going to do it anyways, give them a condom and it's great.

01:32:20.000 That's not the right approach.

01:32:21.000 The right approach instead to say, we can practice discipline, we can practice self-control.

01:32:26.000 People are happier and they stay together longer when they don't have sex before marriage and don't shack up before marriage.

01:32:32.000 The social data proves that.

01:32:33.000 So we should be talking about that.

01:32:35.000 They have commercials for medication and it's this big fat guy and he eats a big old greasy pepperoni pizza and then goes And it's like, wanna eat the food you love?

01:32:45.000 And then he pops a pill and he smiles and eats the pizza again.

01:32:47.000 And I'm like, stop!

01:32:49.000 You're kidding!

01:32:50.000 I agree!

01:32:50.000 This is America!

01:32:52.000 And we have a cultural sickness. 0.84

01:32:53.000 I said earlier, our culture is dead.

01:32:55.000 I agree with you on that.

01:32:56.000 Instant gratification and meaninglessness.

01:32:58.000 But, you know, I do think there's a political conundrum in a group of people desperate to sterilize and remove themselves from the gene pool.

01:32:58.000 Not good.

01:33:08.000 Who are also eating garbage, celebrating having morbid obesity, and then you have conservatives desperately trying to keep them voting.

01:33:20.000 That's never going to resolve itself. 0.96

01:33:23.000 you know, sex and it being designed for within marriage.

01:33:25.000 Because sex bonds you dramatically to another person and it can create new life.

01:33:28.000 Which are two things for marriage.

01:33:30.000 Lifelong love and responsibility and then children, right?

01:33:32.000 That family project together.

01:33:34.000 And so, yeah, of course, if someone disagrees and is like, I disagree with this girl.

01:33:37.000 I'm not going to do that.

01:33:38.000 They're free to do what they want to do in the end, right?

01:33:40.000 But what I'm trying to say is, why don't we have more conversations about the beauty of

01:33:45.000 what we're aiming for?

01:33:46.000 Like that beautiful image of the couple that's married 50 years

01:33:48.000 and they're holding hands on the park bench, right?

01:33:50.000 And they were their first love, or, you know, they were virgins when they got married, and they committed to that.

01:33:55.000 I mean, it takes a commitment.

01:33:56.000 I'm not saying it's easy.

01:33:56.000 Culture.

01:33:57.000 It's culture.

01:33:57.000 Exactly.

01:33:58.000 And so we can do our part in creating culture, and not saying, like, people are doomed to just hook up and sleep together and be promiscuous.

01:34:03.000 No one's doomed to promiscuity.

01:34:05.000 We gotta go to Super Chats!

01:34:05.000 No one's doing that.

01:34:07.000 You said that people that don't have sex before marriage tend to be happier and have a longer relationship, but is it possible that happier people don't have sex before marriage?

01:34:19.000 It's an interesting, meaning they have other values that they are cherishing and learning about each other intellectually, spiritually, etc.

01:34:27.000 Is that kind of what you're saying?

01:34:28.000 No, I think those studies measure relative happiness from point A to point B. So that is, from the point of marriage, ten years later, how would you rate your happiness here?

01:34:38.000 How would you rate your happiness here?

01:34:39.000 Because happiness is always relative.

01:34:41.000 We know there's less STIs, unplanned pregnancy, and we know there's less divorce with less sexual partners.

01:34:48.000 One of my favorite studies, they found that a paraplegic one year after their accident and a lottery winner one year after winning rate the same levels of happiness.

01:34:58.000 So, it's all relative to where you are in life.

01:34:58.000 Oh my gosh.

01:35:02.000 You know, I've been to some slums in foreign countries.

01:35:04.000 These people are as happy as happy can be.

01:35:06.000 They have family.

01:35:07.000 So, when you look at that and you look at the data, people who are, they've had no other sexual partners before marriage say, I'm very happy.

01:35:15.000 Ten years later, I'm very happy.

01:35:17.000 People who had multiple partners say, I'm very happy.

01:35:20.000 I'm completely unhappy we got divorced.

01:35:22.000 But it's not just feeling or reporting happiness, it's also behavior, and it is a fact that people who cohabitate before marriage are more likely to divorce than people who don't.

01:35:34.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats, but one final thought is cohabitation is illegal in West Virginia.

01:35:39.000 But most people are told cohabitate is good because it'll help you get to know each other and try it on before you marry to avoid divorce.

01:35:39.000 Interesting.

01:35:45.000 That's the cultural narrative today, and that's actually not true.

01:35:48.000 It's better to not cohabitate and practice a sexual morality to each other, to really get to know each other on a spiritual and intellectual level, get to understand each

01:35:55.000 other's families' backgrounds, and then, hey, is this a life project partner that I'm

01:35:59.000 going to commit for life to raise a family with? Yes. Okay, now I'm going to marry and pledge

01:36:02.000 myself to you publicly.

01:36:04.000 Now we'll share each other's bodies. We're going to go to Super Chats. That's a beautiful idea.

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01:36:29.000 Alright, I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, I think this aliens nonsense is twofold.

01:36:34.000 A, to prevent war with China.

01:36:36.000 Hey, we got a cool space tech.

01:36:37.000 And B, to distract from how horrible the state is.

01:36:41.000 A military flex.

01:36:41.000 Interesting.

01:36:43.000 All right, what do we got?

01:36:44.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:36:45.000 says, Tim, did you see the viral video of our bestie Turtleman Mitch McConnell glitching out?

01:36:49.000 Him, Biden, Feinstein, Fetterman, and many more.

01:36:52.000 We're a broken nation.

01:36:53.000 Trump needs to be our last 70-plus leader.

01:36:56.000 Sounds like you were sitting on the show with us tonight.

01:36:58.000 Well, this was at 8 o'clock.

01:36:59.000 That's why.

01:37:00.000 You were reading our minds, man, before we got into it.

01:37:03.000 What is this?

01:37:04.000 Critic says Whitmer signed into law to ban conversion therapy today.

01:37:08.000 Would love a discussion on this.

01:37:09.000 Thank you for your work.

01:37:11.000 It's really weird for LGBTQ youth. It's really weird that a program that you choose to do is banned.

01:37:21.000 Right.

01:37:21.000 They're not mercilessly beating children over here.

01:37:24.000 In the state of California, if you counsel someone with unwanted same-sex attraction, and they're a youth, and you're counseling them to deal with their unwanted same-sex attraction, you can get in trouble with the law.

01:37:38.000 That's how far gone we are because of the mythology around conversion therapies that are so evil. 1.00

01:37:43.000 Yes, have there been some evil conversion therapies?

01:37:45.000 Yes, but most counselors who are, I think, Seeing this the correct way, understand that same-sex attraction, a lot of it is connected to traumas, issues in your past, how you developed your relationship with your mother, your father, and those things need to be explored, especially when that person is saying, what is this with me?

01:38:02.000 I don't understand the way that I am.

01:38:04.000 And the fact that we don't even have those conversations, we're not even allowed to have those conversations, I think is horrible.

01:38:08.000 It's so... I was just interviewing a woman who was living in a lesbian relationship, like a... I think she was married or she was in a long-term relationship, and she ended up rejecting that because she said, that was what I was told was going to make me happy in the end.

01:38:22.000 But at the end of the day, she said, my identity is in God, you know, she's a Christian, but it also is realizing that I'm not designed to have sex with a woman.

01:38:29.000 That's not my identity. 0.61

01:38:30.000 That's not what I'm designed for.

01:38:31.000 So I think we need to hear more of those voices.

01:38:33.000 But again, that's like faux pas today.

01:38:34.000 You're not allowed to talk about that.

01:38:35.000 And I think that's a problem.

01:38:36.000 And it hurts a lot of people.

01:38:37.000 Vosh 1985 says, Tim, please help.

01:38:41.000 Ohio Dems are trying to get no-limit abortion in the state constitution. 0.95

01:38:45.000 August 8th, we are having a special election to change the bar to pass amendments from 51 to 60.

01:38:51.000 Vote yes on issue 1 on the 8th if you are in Ohio.

01:38:55.000 Well, alright.

01:38:56.000 I mean, there's a lot of ballot initiatives being pushed by the pro-abortion side to permit abortion through all nine months for any reason.

01:39:01.000 It just happened in California.

01:39:02.000 We passed Proposition 1.

01:39:03.000 Horrible.

01:39:04.000 It's absolutely horrible.

01:39:04.000 In Colorado.

01:39:05.000 So we've got to fight.

01:39:06.000 We've definitely got to fight that.

01:39:07.000 Oklahoma Bandits.

01:39:07.000 Check out liveaction.org and we'll help equip you for the fight.

01:39:11.000 Oklahoma banned it, and Colorado has it unlimited, which means these two states, which share a border, are going to be a potential hot seat for serious conflict.

01:39:20.000 A woman in Oklahoma will flee to Colorado, the father's gonna say, hey, she's fleeing the state to commit a crime, the state's gonna have no authority to go to the other state, the federal government won't intervene, and I think... Or will intervene, who knows, geez.

01:39:32.000 Yeah, or the guy will get a posse, even.

01:39:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:39:36.000 If government doesn't intervene in that situation for to stop it or to allow it, someone else's... it's like you can't... Oh, gosh.

01:39:43.000 Yeah.

01:39:44.000 Well, that's what happens when we don't protect constitutional rights for all, and just some states are doing it and other states are allowed to encroach on them.

01:39:51.000 I mean, the fact that in California, if you're conceived in California, you could be killed until, you know, weeks before, days before birth.

01:39:59.000 Did you guys hear the story of the surrogate in California?

01:40:02.000 I don't think so.

01:40:02.000 Yeah, where the guys wanted the baby terminated, but... So two men who have no business trying to adopt or create a child, two men got together, they hired a surrogate, they hired an egg donor, they created these babies in vitro through IVF, and then they implanted this little beautiful baby boy in this woman, they, you know, got a surrogate, and she gets cancer.

01:40:23.000 She gets breast cancer.

01:40:25.000 And she is going to need treatment, and the baby is about 24-25 weeks old, so old enough to survive.

01:40:30.000 You can survive as young as 21 weeks, 6 days, 5 days, I think is the earliest surviving little boy, little girl.

01:40:39.000 And what do the dads say?

01:40:40.000 The dads?

01:40:41.000 They're not even dads.

01:40:42.000 These men who purchased this life now? 0.99

01:40:44.000 Destroy it!

01:40:45.000 And she said, well, let me give birth to it and let it be adopted.

01:40:49.000 I'll adopt him, this little boy.

01:40:51.000 We don't want our DNA out there, one of the dudes.

01:40:53.000 And so what happened?

01:40:55.000 They delivered this beautiful little boy at 25 weeks old and left him to die, ultimately.

01:41:00.000 And this was all done legally in the state of California where abortion is legal through all nine months.

01:41:04.000 Why did she let it happen?

01:41:05.000 She shouldn't have.

01:41:06.000 She's responsible, too, in my opinion.

01:41:08.000 I think surrogates, I think women who give their bodies, you know, I can see some good intentions in it for some people saying, I'm trying to help this family.

01:41:16.000 I think it was all wrong and should all be stopped.

01:41:18.000 And women shouldn't have any part in selling their wombs. 1.00

01:41:21.000 And then you open the door to these horrible human rights abuses, like this little boy that was killed, brought into existence, and then killed.

01:41:31.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:41:33.000 Robert Romano says, they need not be interstellar.

01:41:36.000 They could be nearby.

01:41:37.000 We're not alone?

01:41:38.000 Or is it to convince Russia we have invulnerable alien tech, but it's fake?

01:41:43.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:41:43.000 They could be reptilians, you know?

01:41:44.000 Like, the ship could be from the center of the Earth that came out of the hole in the North Pole.

01:41:49.000 Especially now that the ice caps are melting and the lizard people could be coming up, crashing a ship. 1.00

01:41:53.000 River of blood in Antarctica.

01:41:54.000 One of my favorite conspiracy theories is that Well, in the age of dinosaurs, before the, uh, meteor struck the earth and wiped everything out, there was a species of dinosaur that was cave-dwelling, and, uh, you know, got their resources and food through cave moss or something like that.

01:42:10.000 I don't think any of this made sense, but I was reading this, and it's really funny.

01:42:13.000 And it's like, they survived the, uh, the-the meteor strike, and then evolved super-intelligence, but live underground.

01:42:20.000 And then, I love this too, because they connected it with the Denver Airport, and they're like, the Denver Airport has like eight sublevels, which connects to a network of underground cities inhabited by dinosaur people.

01:42:29.000 And I was like, was that a TV show?

01:42:31.000 Like, Land of the Lost or something, where they go into the Earth, and then they're in this alternate reality or something?

01:42:35.000 Yeah, dude.

01:42:36.000 Journey to the Center of the Earth.

01:42:37.000 It's an old Jules Verne book, which is a great book.

01:42:39.000 It is a great book.

01:42:39.000 If you have not read it, read it.

01:42:40.000 I love that book.

01:42:40.000 It's a different story, but yeah.

01:42:41.000 It's fascinating.

01:42:42.000 It is a different story, yeah.

01:42:43.000 I never saw Land of the Lost.

01:42:44.000 And Denver Airport's a terrible airport.

01:42:47.000 It could be, I was just there, international, I'm sorry, interdimensional beings.

01:42:50.000 Sorry to all the Coloradans who love the Denver Airport. 0.84

01:42:52.000 It could be within us, without us.

01:42:53.000 It just takes forever.

01:42:54.000 Like a vibration in space-time that's being hyper-concentrated by, like, spiritual force.

01:43:00.000 That could be what the aliens are.

01:43:02.000 Ghostgate says aliens are Jesus and the angels.

01:43:05.000 The Antichrist is AI, and they'll be apparent in early 2027.

01:43:10.000 Jesus returns in mid-September, Yom Teruah 2030, if Jesus doesn't return to destroy the AI. 0.91

01:43:17.000 I think the only way Christ will return is if it returns within you and all of us together at once.

01:43:24.000 No, but I think Christians believe that he's actually coming back, right?

01:43:27.000 Yeah, he is.

01:43:28.000 He is coming back.

01:43:29.000 I think the alien stuff, to some degree, is a big distraction to the Frankenstein-style experiments we're doing on human beings in laboratories, not just in places like China, but in the United States.

01:43:40.000 They're probably putting them in craft.

01:43:41.000 I mean, who knows if what Balbazar saw wasn't a chimera at the time? 0.98

01:43:45.000 All the experimentation we're doing on these little tiny babies we're bringing into existence just to experiment on them and kill them. 0.93

01:43:51.000 It is sick and I think no one's talking about it. 0.94

01:43:53.000 There's very few headlines about it, right?

01:43:55.000 It's not making your Twitter feed most of the time.

01:43:57.000 Would you endorse going to war with China to stop China from doing experiments like that? 0.67

01:44:05.000 It's an interesting question.

01:44:07.000 I don't think so, no.

01:44:07.000 Because China's gonna.

01:44:09.000 I think that the moral problem of just going to war with the country and all of the evils associated with war.

01:44:17.000 You know, there's a lot of evils happening in a lot of countries, right?

01:44:20.000 But we don't go invade them.

01:44:22.000 Well, some people say we do.

01:44:23.000 We do that to some degree in some countries, right?

01:44:26.000 And there's a lot of debate about that.

01:44:27.000 Is that right that we do that?

01:44:28.000 But I would say, generally speaking, we should first fix our own house.

01:44:32.000 And we're doing evil stuff in the United States.

01:44:35.000 It's not just happening in China.

01:44:37.000 You know, our abortion rate is one of the highest in the world.

01:44:40.000 2,500 children are killed every day here.

01:44:42.000 We're experimenting on them in our labs.

01:44:45.000 We're creating them like the little boy in California and then killing them at 25 weeks old, born alive, left to die because he wasn't wanted by his dad. 0.96

01:44:54.000 You know, the whole thing is sick. 0.89

01:44:55.000 So I would say let's address that and then we can worry about China.

01:44:58.000 Noah Sanders says, Tim, if you have too many chickens, you should hold a livestock auction for your elite members.

01:45:03.000 Get rid of chickens, make some money and content, and have a community building event all in one.

01:45:07.000 That's actually a really good idea.

01:45:09.000 It's a great episode of Cast Casting.

01:45:10.000 Exactly.

01:45:11.000 If we can legally do it.

01:45:12.000 We have, like, Ian is basically auctioning off the citizens.

01:45:15.000 How fast can you talk, Ian?

01:45:16.000 I need a gavel.

01:45:17.000 No, no, no.

01:45:17.000 Ian loves those things.

01:45:18.000 You just double the speed over and over again.

01:45:20.000 And a few of the crew will go into Chicken City and negotiate with Roberto Jr.

01:45:26.000 for the sale of his prisoners.

01:45:29.000 And then he, you know, goes and sells them.

01:45:32.000 Tim Cass negotiating with terrorists.

01:45:35.000 Ian's like... You guys have a boatload of excess eggs upstairs.

01:45:39.000 Or downstairs, wherever it was.

01:45:40.000 What do you do with all of those eggs?

01:45:43.000 I'm supposed to be eating six in the morning lately with this protein buff, but it's just a lot.

01:45:47.000 How many eggs do you eat a day?

01:45:50.000 I don't eat that many.

01:45:50.000 Okay.

01:45:51.000 Who eats them?

01:45:51.000 Because there's like, they were like... People are eating them.

01:45:53.000 But we have too many.

01:45:54.000 30 cartons of eggs just sitting there.

01:45:56.000 Yeah.

01:45:56.000 And they're gonna go bad if they don't get eaten.

01:45:58.000 They're good for a long time.

01:45:59.000 They last a long time.

01:46:01.000 A couple weeks to a month maybe, reasonably.

01:46:03.000 But, you know... If you wash them, they go bad faster.

01:46:05.000 Yeah, you don't wash them.

01:46:06.000 But, uh, we make stuff.

01:46:07.000 Maybe we'll just have a big frittata thing on Friday or something.

01:46:12.000 No, we should do it tomorrow, because Friday is sushi day.

01:46:14.000 I like that it's a frittata, not an omelette.

01:46:16.000 I like that.

01:46:16.000 Oh, we could do, like, a quiche.

01:46:18.000 Why don't we do, like, a massive quiche?

01:46:21.000 Mushrooms in one area of the quiche, green pepper in another area, then you can have them, like, overlapping, like concentric circles.

01:46:27.000 We can, on the table, we just make a big thing, a big mound of flour, and you make a hole, and we put all the eggs in it, and then we, you know, make pasta.

01:46:35.000 You had me till flour.

01:46:36.000 That sounds good.

01:46:38.000 Actually, I do need to eat more flour now, so that could be cool.

01:46:42.000 I don't know if I need it, but it's good carbs.

01:46:44.000 Yeah, but we got too many eggs.

01:46:46.000 But actually, it would be a good idea, because we have too many chickens.

01:46:49.000 We have too many.

01:46:50.000 They make more of themselves.

01:46:51.000 Listen, what you could do is you could give the eggs away.

01:46:54.000 We could.

01:46:55.000 We could ship the eggs to people who want to incubate them and then have their own Chicken City strain.

01:47:00.000 But, you know, we got a bunch of just random backyard chickens and they're all hooking up and, you know, mutating and stuff.

01:47:06.000 Doing weird chicken things.

01:47:08.000 Donate an egg drive.

01:47:10.000 You could donate them.

01:47:10.000 A lot of people would love some farm fresh eggs from Tim's special Chicken City.

01:47:16.000 We'll go somewhere and we'll just, like, set up a little stage or whatever.

01:47:19.000 I'm gonna practice the fast talking.

01:47:21.000 That would be the best.

01:47:24.000 I would love to hear you doing the chicken auction.

01:47:27.000 Yeah, I would love it.

01:47:30.000 We're working on the Casper commercials I'm really excited for, because Roberto Jr.

01:47:35.000 is going to be in it.

01:47:36.000 Who is Roberto Jr.?

01:47:37.000 He's the rooster.

01:47:38.000 He's the son of the original rooster, Roberto.

01:47:40.000 He's the son of Roberto, obviously.

01:47:42.000 Right.

01:47:42.000 So do the hens have names too, or just Roberto?

01:47:45.000 Yes.

01:47:45.000 Oh, they do.

01:47:46.000 Dorothy.

01:47:47.000 Yeah, well the original ones, I know all their names, but then There's a whole bunch more.

01:47:52.000 They all have names.

01:47:54.000 Do you remember all of your chickens' names, Tim?

01:47:56.000 I did not name them.

01:47:58.000 I named the original seven.

01:47:59.000 The original six, actually.

01:48:00.000 Do guests get to name a chicken?

01:48:04.000 No, the Chicken City audience named them.

01:48:06.000 Oh, okay.

01:48:07.000 So they just culturally decide.

01:48:08.000 And there's a wiki for it.

01:48:10.000 There's a Chicken City wiki where people will talk about the lore of the city and, like... What happened with Roberto?

01:48:16.000 Roberto was sent to the penal colony at Cocktown for sexual assault, I think.

01:48:21.000 Yeah, he ripped her back up pretty bad, man. 0.94

01:48:24.000 Yeah, he was, he was, he was... That's so normal for chickens.

01:48:27.000 And so he got shipped away.

01:48:29.000 And then Roberto Jr.

01:48:31.000 Roberto Jr.

01:48:31.000 is super chill.

01:48:32.000 He's very nice.

01:48:33.000 I like him.

01:48:33.000 So Roberto was from a farm, and so he doesn't like people.

01:48:34.000 You know, he's okay, but he's kicked me a couple times.

01:48:35.000 And Roberto Jr.

01:48:36.000 was hatched right in front of me and my girlfriend Allison, and so he's super chill and likes people.

01:48:38.000 He's like- If you can walk up, he'll just look at you and then he'll go about his business.

01:48:40.000 He'll be like, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Yes, it is! 0.99

01:48:54.000 Let's read Super Jets.

01:48:54.000 Yes, it is awesome.

01:48:56.000 My pet chicken when I was a little girl died a very traumatic death, so I have a soft spot for chickens.

01:49:02.000 I love them.

01:49:03.000 All right, Legama says, Aliens are real.

01:49:05.000 Biden's Pyramid ship is on the way.

01:49:07.000 When it arrives, he will convene a press conference.

01:49:09.000 His eyes will shine bright and his voice will get demonic.

01:49:12.000 His gibberish will turn out to be Goa'uld. 1.00

01:49:14.000 He will shout Bada Kefkara in the camera and launch his death gliders at Mar-a-Lago. 0.93

01:49:22.000 Admirable.

01:49:22.000 It turns out all the things he was saying were actually secret codes being sent to the alien planet.

01:49:28.000 The aliens are going to land and he's going to look at them and they're going to be like, they're going to say, and then we're going to be like, what, what, what?

01:49:37.000 And then they're going to explain that.

01:49:38.000 Where true form was showing near the end of your journey.

01:49:41.000 Those are the three phrases that must be uttered to summon the aliens to earth.

01:49:45.000 That's funny.

01:49:46.000 So he's cracking, his human visage is cracking and his alien language is coming out.

01:49:50.000 Well, no, it's like, that's his mission there, like, you have to say this code word, and then once all three code words are admitted in this order, you're signaling the invasion.

01:49:59.000 Oh, okay.

01:50:00.000 He can't just do it all at once, because it would be too weird.

01:50:02.000 Yeah.

01:50:02.000 If he said, Trinidad, Ashabta, Prussia, Batacaf, Carynex, and Alrescent, people would be like, whoa, what was that?

01:50:07.000 Like, he's speaking Thomas! 0.73

01:50:09.000 But he does one mutterance, and then another, and here and there, and people are just like, ah, silly Joe Gibbern again.

01:50:15.000 They were like, first, plagiarize your official presidential campaign to acknowledge that you are on the mission.

01:50:20.000 So he did that in 1988.

01:50:23.000 Kurtalinga says, Tim, Tim, Tim, you kind of dropped the ball by not calling your pumpkin spice brew Hocus Bocus with a ghost kitty on the label.

01:50:29.000 But that's like a Halloween thing, right?

01:50:32.000 So we're doing an espresso roast called Focus with Mr. Bocus.

01:50:36.000 And then Mr. Bocus's pumpkin spice experience was just because it's a funny name.

01:50:41.000 But we're going to have year-round pumpkin spice.

01:50:43.000 I don't know if that ruins it for people.

01:50:45.000 No.

01:50:45.000 I like it.

01:50:46.000 Yeah.

01:50:47.000 It does make me sad when pumpkin spice leaves the market.

01:50:50.000 It's only here for like two months.

01:50:51.000 Why?

01:50:52.000 It's the supply and demand thing.

01:50:53.000 They want to make it special.

01:50:54.000 Not special anymore.

01:50:55.000 It wouldn't be special all year long.

01:50:56.000 It wouldn't be special all year long to me anyways.

01:51:00.000 Bad Guacamole says, in my opinion, here's a real life example of possible Nephilim DNA.

01:51:05.000 Search Ursula and Sabina Erickson, Madness in the Fast Lane.

01:51:08.000 It's very hard to look at these ladies as human after watching. 0.98

01:51:11.000 I don't know about all that.

01:51:13.000 You know, I think I was saying Porphyria or whatever.

01:51:17.000 It's just like this affliction and that's where the vampire myth comes from.

01:51:20.000 They saw a guy who was like, you know, bony and he had like his gums were receding and they're like, it's a vampire.

01:51:25.000 And it's just like some poor dude who's got a genetic disorder.

01:51:28.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:51:29.000 Yeah.

01:51:31.000 Yep, yep.

01:51:33.000 BingBongHell says, Disappointed by Tim's lack of knowledge of the history of the U.S.

01:51:38.000 cover-up of UFOs going back to the 70s.

01:51:41.000 Watch the phenomenon if you want to know more.

01:51:44.000 Ex-Operation Blue Book.

01:51:46.000 Balmstrom Air Force Base.

01:51:48.000 I'm fighting a sneeze here.

01:51:49.000 Do it!

01:51:50.000 Will not be done.

01:51:51.000 People will clip it.

01:51:52.000 Uh, dude, I don't believe the alien stuff.

01:51:54.000 It's just... You know what happened with Roswell?

01:51:57.000 Something they were working on crashed, and they were like, we can't let them figure out what it is, just say it's aliens.

01:52:03.000 And then they were like, oh no, now they think there's aliens.

01:52:06.000 Say it's not aliens, what are you doing?

01:52:08.000 And something like that.

01:52:10.000 That sounds reasonable to me.

01:52:12.000 I do think that it is possible that there would be aliens, and I don't think that contradicts in any way being Catholic or being Christian. 0.71

01:52:20.000 Demons!

01:52:22.000 Yeah, well, even if there are actual, like, another life form, another creature that was created on another planet, and it's not included in the Genesis story, I think that doesn't mean the Genesis story isn't true, and that everything we believe to do isn't true.

01:52:33.000 Yeah, God's side projects.

01:52:34.000 But the thing is, you can be a Christian and believe in aliens, is what I'm saying. 0.95

01:52:37.000 I believe that it's possible that they exist, but I agree with you.

01:52:39.000 I'm not, I don't really buy it.

01:52:40.000 I think it's a, there's plenty of stuff to worry about already here.

01:52:43.000 I like that in American Dad, they did an episode where, you know, people are being raptured or whatever, and the alien, what Roger, he's like, he's like, I want to go, and then Jesus is like, one of my dad's side projects.

01:52:56.000 But it's like the aliens aren't welcome in God's kingdom because they're just like not part of it.

01:53:00.000 Does it say God created man in his image?

01:53:02.000 In his image, yeah.

01:53:03.000 So like bipedal, symmetrical kind of thing?

01:53:07.000 So maybe there are other creatures on earth?

01:53:10.000 Well, it's talking about the body matters a lot, but it's the soul too.

01:53:14.000 So our ability to love, our ability to reason, our mind, our soul is what is God-like about us.

01:53:21.000 Do dogs go to heaven?

01:53:23.000 They could.

01:53:24.000 I have no problem with the dog going to heaven.

01:53:26.000 I'm not a huge dog person, but... Oh, Seamus says they don't?

01:53:29.000 I mean, I think there could be dogs in heaven. 0.94

01:53:31.000 No, Seamus said they all go to hell. 0.97

01:53:34.000 I'm kidding. 0.93

01:53:36.000 How could you?

01:53:36.000 They'll burn!

01:53:38.000 Why?

01:53:39.000 Is Seamus a cat person or something?

01:53:41.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:53:42.000 Okay, he's just being cruel.

01:53:43.000 Seamus is a spoon person.

01:53:45.000 I don't want to speak on behalf of him, but I'm pretty sure he says animals don't go to heaven.

01:53:50.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:53:51.000 I think that heaven is, you know, you're the beatific vision, so you're in this perfect communion with God who loves you and you love God and you're just glorifying him in this perfection for eternity.

01:54:01.000 I also think that God knows how to make good things for humans.

01:54:04.000 We're still human in heaven, right?

01:54:05.000 It's not like we change our nature.

01:54:06.000 We're still human.

01:54:08.000 And so I would argue that it is possible that everything we enjoy on earth, like food or our loving relationship with our cat or dog, We're going to have perfection in heaven.

01:54:17.000 So will there be some experience of that in heaven?

01:54:19.000 Maybe.

01:54:20.000 I mean, we have the ultimate, which is God, and we're totally satisfied with God.

01:54:23.000 But as an aspect of that, what we enjoy in animals and in food and all these other things, I just, I'm just saying it's going to be perfect in heaven and amazing and blow your mind.

01:54:32.000 So it kind of, in one sense, it doesn't matter.

01:54:34.000 Right.

01:54:35.000 But if it makes you feel better, I would say, yeah, I think whatever that joy you're experiencing on earth, you're going to experience it like 10X a thousand and beyond even what you can imagine X in heaven.

01:54:44.000 What if when you die?

01:54:46.000 You know, like, all of a sudden, it's just, like, pitch black, and then, like, a thing appears in front of you, and it says, like, Congratulations on completing life!

01:54:53.000 Would you like to End Game or New Game Plus?

01:54:55.000 And then when you select New Game Plus, you're, like, you're born again, but you remember everything, and you have all of your knowledge, but you're, like, a newborn baby.

01:55:02.000 Very awesome.

01:55:03.000 New Game Plus.

01:55:04.000 I got a feeling that your electromagnetic field, your human dynamo, is where your spirit is stored, and when you die it goes out into the atmosphere.

01:55:10.000 That's kind of like purgatory.

01:55:11.000 And if you're just obsessed with Earth and you can't let go, you stay and you become a demon and you're in hell.

01:55:16.000 But if you let yourself go, you go into the sun and become one with it, and that's where heaven exists.

01:55:20.000 At least locally.

01:55:21.000 Then maybe the galactic core, yeah.

01:55:23.000 You can at some point go to a greater heaven.

01:55:24.000 There was like a book about that.

01:55:25.000 Where it was like, uh, there are gods, and our god is within the sun, and heaven was within the sun, but that also means that every other star was a different kind of, like, deity or power.

01:55:37.000 What's always comforted me about heaven is, you know, in my faith is that everything, because there's sometimes, I think, and there's a kind of a cultural imagination about heaven that it's boring, you know, like the angel with the harp or something.

01:55:47.000 I don't know if you guys ever run into that, but, or it's like weird or something, but like the God who created all the good things of earth created the perfection of heaven and himself, who, you know, God who created himself, he is, you know, forever always has been, but God is perfect and communion with God will be just mind-blowingly amazingly amazing.

01:56:05.000 And so you kind of don't have to worry about it, right?

01:56:07.000 Because it's going to be amazing.

01:56:09.000 But I think sometimes we doubt that because we can't imagine how amazing it's going to be, but we just have to trust.

01:56:13.000 And life can be so good sometimes.

01:56:15.000 I understand why people don't want to let go.

01:56:17.000 Let's read some more.

01:56:18.000 We got, um, Acadia says, Louisiana made a new law called Covenant Marriage.

01:56:22.000 It's only between a man and a woman. 0.99

01:56:24.000 There are extra steps, but it's what marriage is supposed to be.

01:56:27.000 Only dissolved under certain circumstances.

01:56:29.000 Super marriage!

01:56:30.000 I called for a super marriage.

01:56:32.000 Yep.

01:56:32.000 On this show, I said, you guys can keep your no-fault divorce, but we'll just create something called super marriage, which is effectively marriage without no-fault divorce.

01:56:40.000 You can get married in the Catholic Church.

01:56:41.000 That's super marriage.

01:56:42.000 You can always choose or not.

01:56:43.000 No divorce for that.

01:56:44.000 No one forced you to get married.

01:56:47.000 If you get married in the Catholic Church, it is what they're describing as supermarriage, because no, you're not allowed to ever divorce.

01:56:52.000 You can get a legal divorce for separation if there's, like, abuse or something, but if it was an actual marriage, there's no annulment, meaning annulment is when it wasn't a marriage and you thought it was, but the person was lying to you or there's some other extreme circumstance, but once married, always married.

01:57:07.000 All right, Triton54 says, the Hunter court drama is much more nefarious.

01:57:10.000 Hunter's attorney, Jessica Bengals, Hunter's attorney contacted the court pretending to represent the House Ways and Means Committee in order to get motions removed from the docket.

01:57:18.000 I heard that.

01:57:19.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:57:21.000 Yeah, that's some dark stuff.

01:57:24.000 Jacob says, I don't know if Hunter is the diversion for the aliens or vice versa, but we are definitely part of a psyop one way or the other.

01:57:31.000 Aliens are diversion for Hunter. 1.00

01:57:35.000 It's all a diversion for the biggest issues of the day, which are not that... I would say.

01:57:40.000 Yeah, like regrowing the coral reefs.

01:57:42.000 Yeah!

01:57:43.000 Yeah, dude.

01:57:44.000 You hear that the water in Florida was over 100 degrees?

01:57:47.000 Yeah, 101.

01:57:48.000 It's like a hot tub just on the beach.

01:57:51.000 John Bartholomew says, Tim, my firstborn son is five days old and is enjoying his first TimCast IRL tonight.

01:57:56.000 Gotta get him young! 0.93

01:57:57.000 You know, gotta hook him young.

01:57:58.000 Thank you for all you do to shift the culture of our country in a direction that gives me hope for my son.

01:58:02.000 Thank you very much!

01:58:03.000 Good job being born, man.

01:58:04.000 Nice work, dude.

01:58:06.000 That's a hard job.

01:58:07.000 It's tough.

01:58:08.000 Gravity's annoying at most.

01:58:10.000 We're gonna learn to walk.

01:58:11.000 It'll be awesome.

01:58:13.000 Jenna Mindtrick says, Ian, I've heard you many times say, I'm not sure if it's a human in regard to abortion.

01:58:18.000 My question would be, what other species than a human have women ever give birth to? 1.00

01:58:23.000 Using deductive logic, what the WTF else could it be? 0.55

01:58:26.000 Well, that's the chimera we talked about.

01:58:28.000 Maybe the chat came in early.

01:58:29.000 A human Z! 1.00

01:58:29.000 But no woman has ever given birth to a chimera, so... That's arguably not true. 1.00

01:58:35.000 The potential... What are you defining that to be, actually?

01:58:38.000 So the legend goes that the Soviets... Oh, the legend, okay. 0.99

01:58:41.000 So, and there's a reason to believe it may be true.

01:58:44.000 The Soviets were conducting experiments where they were trying to create human-chimp hybrids. 0.74

01:58:47.000 The issue is that you can't take male sperm and put it into a female chimp because a female chimp is too small. 0.98

01:58:53.000 It would have to be chimp sperm in a female human who's larger and can actually birth the baby. 1.00

01:58:58.000 And many people call it a conspiracy theory or whatever you want.

01:59:03.000 I would lean towards These countries are running black operations, genetic experiments on humans.

01:59:10.000 The Nazis were doing crazy stuff. 0.70

01:59:12.000 The Japanese were doing crazy stuff. 1.00

01:59:14.000 They would take a person, put their arm into freezing, into like a freezing sub-zero temperatures, and then once it froze, shatter it to see what would happen.

01:59:22.000 So they're doing stuff like that we know about.

01:59:25.000 Why wouldn't, would they not try and create a, so the thing about a human-chimp hybrid is that humans and chimps share almost all of their DNA, like a ridiculous, like 99.4 or something. 0.99

01:59:34.000 So when we hybridize, say like a horse and a donkey, is that what it is?

01:59:38.000 A horse and donkey makes a mule or whatever?

01:59:39.000 Yes.

01:59:40.000 They- we can make hybrids between like ligers and taeons.

01:59:44.000 So humans and chimps theoretically have enough DNA where it's not the most advanced genetic engineering to try and create this. 0.99

01:59:50.000 It's just gotta be a human woman carrying it. 1.00

01:59:51.000 Sure.

01:59:52.000 So- So it- there's no- I kinda think it happened!

01:59:54.000 There's no evidence that it's been successfully done, but if it were successfully done, to your point, Tim, it would be wrong and it should be illegal to kill or harm in any way that chimera.

02:00:07.000 It's a hypothetical hybrid of chimps and humans.

02:00:09.000 They say, um, serious attempts to create a hybrid were made by the Soviet biologist Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov in the 1920s, and possibly by researchers in China in the 1960s, though neither succeeded.

02:00:22.000 I kind of feel like there's no reason for them not to have continued.

02:00:25.000 Oh, it says they share 95% of the DNA sequence and 99% of coding DNA sequences.

02:00:30.000 There you go, there it is.

02:00:31.000 Hybridization between chimps and bonobos has already been documented.

02:00:35.000 But here's the thing, we should not be permitting experimentation on new human embryos or creating new human embryos in IVF Petri dishes and to then, you know, edit or do whatever to it.

02:00:47.000 Those things happen in China and in the Soviet Union.

02:00:50.000 I know it happens in other countries, I'm talking about our country, because for all the experimentation you're talking about, Tim, like we're doing experimentation here and it's funded by the NIH.

02:00:58.000 What do you think about, like, CRISPR?

02:00:59.000 I don't know how much time, we don't have much time to get into it.

02:01:00.000 Maybe we talk about it on the after show, like the idea of genetic editing to give people better eyesight or something.

02:01:04.000 Yeah, I think it's very ethically fraught.

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02:01:50.000 I think what you were saying earlier, Phil, you can't tell someone, don't have sex, but sometimes just hearing the tone of people can change you when you're young.

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02:01:58.000 Roseanne changed me when I was young, for instance, with her awesome show. 0.81

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