Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Biden Exposed In Leaked Phone Call Proving They Knew Of Taliban Takeover w-Jack Murphy

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00:00:44.000 How's it going, everybody?

00:00:45.000 So, you know, we're all contemplating and, you know, the catastrophe in Afghanistan, the loss of American lives, the Americans that are trapped there.

00:00:53.000 And, you know, Biden said, like, nobody saw this coming.

00:00:55.000 We didn't think it was going to happen.

00:00:56.000 then a phone call gets leaked where he knew it was happening and didn't provide air support

00:01:01.000 after the president of Afghanistan asked him to, where he had previously just a few weeks

00:01:05.000 earlier, quietly pulled American troops out of Bagram Air Force Base in the dead of night,

00:01:09.000 shutting off the electricity and not telling anybody, let alone the Afghan allies.

00:01:13.000 So when you see this and you know that we, I mean, it should have been obvious that they

00:01:17.000 were asking for help, but the president of Afghanistan before Kabul fell to the Taliban

00:01:22.000 said we need air support and Biden was like, just tell everybody it's all fine.

00:01:26.000 And he knew it was collapsing.

00:01:28.000 And they knew weeks in advance the Taliban was rapidly approaching.

00:01:31.000 They knew weeks in advance that everyone in the world saw this happening, and he just wanted to change the perception.

00:01:38.000 Says to me that they didn't care, or this was the plan the whole time.

00:01:42.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:44.000 I did talk about it earlier in one of my segments, but we got the crew here.

00:01:46.000 We'll talk about that.

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00:01:57.000 You know, we'll talk about all that stuff.

00:01:59.000 You know, he did a video on Instagram.

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00:02:10.000 Hey, good to be here.

00:02:11.000 Tim, Lydia, Ian.

00:02:13.000 It's been too long.

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00:02:15.000 I'm Jack Murphy.

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00:02:23.000 Thank you.

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00:02:34.000 Ian looks lonely.

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00:02:37.000 Life is hard.

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00:02:40.000 We were all concerned cause he was like sleeping one day and didn't get out.

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00:02:48.000 He's going to be repeating it over and over again.

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00:03:03.000 How was the Grand Canyon, Matt?

00:03:04.000 The Grand Canyon was big.

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00:03:12.000 It really did.

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00:03:13.000 I didn't want to leave.

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00:03:16.000 Did not want to leave each place.

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00:04:41.000 Let's read this news you may have heard.

00:04:43.000 Wow, amazing.

00:04:45.000 From Timcast.com, Biden urged Afghan President to change the perception of Taliban's imminent victory, Reuters reports.

00:04:52.000 New details are emerging from the final phone call between US President Biden and the Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, with reports claiming Biden urged the foreign leader to change perceptions that the Taliban was winning the war.

00:05:02.000 The call took place on July 23rd.

00:05:05.000 On August 15th, Ghani fled the presidential palace and the Taliban entered Kabul.

00:05:10.000 Since then, tens of thousands of desperate Afghans have fled and 13 U.S.

00:05:13.000 troops have lost their lives, scores of Afghan civilians.

00:05:17.000 Here's a quote from Biden. I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of

00:05:20.000 Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the

00:05:24.000 Taliban. And there is a need whether it's true or not, there was a need to project a different

00:05:29.000 picture.

00:05:31.000 We will continue to provide close air support if we know what the plan is, Biden told Ghani.

00:05:36.000 You clearly have the best military.

00:05:38.000 You have 300,000 well-armed forces versus 70,000 to 80,000, and they're clearly capable of fighting well.

00:05:44.000 So it sounds like a lot of lies coming out of the White House in these past few weeks.

00:05:48.000 We didn't know it was going to happen.

00:05:49.000 They knew it was happening then.

00:05:51.000 On July 1st, they abandoned Bagram Air Force Base.

00:05:53.000 That's been like the centerpiece of this big story and the scandal as to what went down because they didn't just hand off.

00:06:00.000 Here's what should have happened, in my opinion.

00:06:02.000 And you know what?

00:06:03.000 Maybe I'm wrong because I'm not a military guy.

00:06:05.000 The Biden administration could have said, all right, it's currently May.

00:06:08.000 By July 1st, we will leave, which gives us a month to get in some Afghan security forces, Afghan National Army, to start replacing the people who run the Air Force Base so that you can properly take it over, have the logistics, and then start dealing with the Taliban should they come in after we leave.

00:06:24.000 Instead, in the middle of the night on July 1st, they turned the lights off, cut the power, and fled without telling anybody.

00:06:30.000 And civilian looters busted in.

00:06:33.000 And then when the Afghan army found out, they went in and secured it and arrested people.

00:06:37.000 But you gotta imagine, by July 23rd, about three weeks before the fall of Kabul, when the president of Afghanistan is like, yo, Biden, we need some air support.

00:06:46.000 They already abandoned the Air Force base without telling him.

00:06:48.000 And Biden's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll provide you with air support.

00:06:50.000 Just keep telling everybody you're winning.

00:06:52.000 So to me, Kind of sounds like the plan, man.

00:06:56.000 It's indeed the plan, but you gotta wonder.

00:06:58.000 That's the plan from Biden's perspective.

00:07:00.000 You gotta wonder where the lies start, right?

00:07:03.000 Does the lie start all the way down with, yeah, we just trained these four new recruits to the Afghan security forces and they're great.

00:07:11.000 They're doing a great job.

00:07:12.000 And those lies just multiply and add up and build up and add up and build up to where Joe Biden is like, hey, we really have 300,000 troops there.

00:07:18.000 They're really going to be helpful for you.

00:07:20.000 You're fine.

00:07:20.000 300,000 versus 80,000.

00:07:22.000 It's fine.

00:07:22.000 I mean, that's the intel that he's getting.

00:07:24.000 Look, I am not a Joe Biden fan.

00:07:25.000 I'm not defending Joe Biden.

00:07:26.000 The guy needs to be put into a nice, comfortable rocking chair with a blanket over his lap and a nice book in his lap if he can read and a cup of tea and the whole thing.

00:07:35.000 Somebody pat him on the head every once in a while, tuck him in, wipe his nose.

00:07:39.000 Spongebabs.

00:07:41.000 Well, I'm not volunteering or sticking that on anybody, but like it's, it's, it's compounding lie after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie, after lie.

00:07:51.000 And, you know, really the president is a guy that's up there playing risk.

00:07:54.000 You know, he's got the board, he's got the pieces.

00:07:56.000 He can only depend on the information that he's been giving. 0.98

00:07:59.000 And it's, from my perspective, it seems like the entire military industrial complex is just filled with liars, scoundrels, and thieves who are not doing their job. 0.97

00:08:06.000 Right, that's what I'm saying. 0.98

00:08:07.000 Right. That's what I'm saying. So I.

00:08:08.000 Are you saying that, you know, Biden wanted to withdraw.

00:08:12.000 And so they it's the military industrial complex that screwed it up and given bad

00:08:16.000 info or.

00:08:17.000 I think that that when you've got Biden and his team and the wokefied 0.80

00:08:21.000 apparatus that's now taking over everything, their focus is always on the wrong

00:08:25.000 thing. They're always focused and they're putting their attention on the wrong

00:08:29.000 So whenever they take action, it's the wrong action because their focus is on wokeness.

00:08:34.000 It's on, you know, making sure that the, uh, one of my words, I can't say over here, making sure that the, uh, army is diverse enough, making sure that they're dealing with white rage and these things.

00:08:44.000 And, and they're not making sure that the facts and the information that they're getting are accurate.

00:08:48.000 And so they're just taking these things at face value.

00:08:50.000 Basically, you can't take anything at face value anymore.

00:08:52.000 Nothing.

00:08:53.000 But is it lies or is it collapse, right?

00:08:55.000 So I'll put rot.

00:08:57.000 Imagine the military is a bunch of, you know, you ever see that meme where it's like two people standing on a cliff and it's like a beautiful city and they're hugging and then holding the cliff up as a bunch of soldiers that are like bleeding and one guy's pointing a gun and they're holding it up.

00:09:10.000 Yeah.

00:09:11.000 It's making a point about how this comfort and this luxury is based on it.

00:09:14.000 So imagine that support structure of all of these dudes holding up society.

00:09:19.000 Not that I'm a fan of the Afghan war by any stretch of the imagination.

00:09:22.000 But you start corrupting and rotting those support beams, and they start just writhing and falling and collapsing, and then eventually the structure loses support, the whole thing falls down.

00:09:31.000 So is it really lies, or is it... Here's the way I see it, and I'll do a side note here.

00:09:36.000 We got a video, we got a strike on TikTok.

00:09:39.000 Because I said in a video, it's clear Biden is in charge, that there are no adults in the room, and that when Biden's talking in his meetings and says stuff, people just go along with whatever he says and don't challenge him.

00:09:53.000 He's got sycophants and bureaucrats who don't want to stick their neck out, and Biden's clearly not with it.

00:09:59.000 And so we got a strike for that.

00:10:00.000 But I stand by that.

00:10:01.000 I think what's happening is you've got, you know, Kamala, Millie, you know, other people, right?

00:10:06.000 The National Security Advisor, you've got Jen Psaki, and they're like, I'm not saying anything.

00:10:09.000 It's like Joe Biden walks in, he sits down, and we heard him say Trinidad a Shabbat of pressure on TV.

00:10:14.000 What do you think he's saying in private?

00:10:16.000 Right.

00:10:16.000 When he's sitting there and they're all sitting around him and he's like, Kabul!

00:10:22.000 Do it!

00:10:23.000 And they're like, whatever you say, Joe.

00:10:25.000 And they just walk out shrugging.

00:10:26.000 We know one of the things he says in private, which is, hey, leader of Afghanistan, lie to the world. 0.90

00:10:32.000 Yeah.

00:10:34.000 I mean, it was when he said, whether it's true or not.

00:10:37.000 Whether it's true or not, just lie if you have to, but treat people.

00:10:41.000 Do you wish anything would have gone differently in Afghanistan?

00:10:43.000 Yeah, I wish the president wouldn't have fled. 0.96

00:10:45.000 You know, this whole woke crap, it's like they didn't want to hurt the Taliban's feelings. 0.84

00:10:51.000 We had an outdate by September 1st or August 31st. 0.93

00:10:54.000 What you do as a military, if you're not prepared to leave a war that you're winning, You extend the deadline.

00:11:01.000 Were we winning?

00:11:02.000 Yeah, we were dominating that country.

00:11:03.000 We controlled the country.

00:11:04.000 We had air support.

00:11:06.000 We had logistics.

00:11:08.000 We had total opportunity to withdraw safely everything over time.

00:11:13.000 And they just chose to surrender.

00:11:15.000 Biden surrendered when we were winning the war.

00:11:18.000 He didn't just issue a white peace and walk away.

00:11:21.000 He surrendered our equipment.

00:11:24.000 I actually agree.

00:11:25.000 I agree with... I think so.

00:11:26.000 I agree.

00:11:27.000 Yes.

00:11:28.000 In that sense, I would say... When I say I don't know if we are winning, it's like it's 20 years in attrition, and soldiers are dying every year, and there were some serious attacks the past few years, and I'm like, I don't know if it's winning if we're in a country we don't need to be in to colonize our nation-build from people who don't want us to be there.

00:11:43.000 I don't know what we're trying to win other than invading this country, but from what you're saying, in that sense, yes.

00:11:49.000 We... Not only did we have control of the country, But we did have the Afghan National Army.

00:11:54.000 And I think this story is the perfect example of how it all broke.

00:11:58.000 It's amazing.

00:12:00.000 It's the breaking point.

00:12:01.000 It's almost like there really was a system in place.

00:12:04.000 Not a good one.

00:12:04.000 I still believe there would have been chaos and conflict.

00:12:07.000 But it's like Joe Biden.

00:12:09.000 The administration made sure to find the one support beam they could strip out to make sure it all went smack down and collapse on the way out.

00:12:16.000 They, they pulled logistics and air support.

00:12:18.000 They abandoned the Air Force Base around Kabul or Bagram near Kabul.

00:12:22.000 They couldn't do evacuations.

00:12:24.000 It really felt like of all of the things they could have done, they did quite possibly the worst thing.

00:12:29.000 I guess the worst thing would be to bomb your own, you know, like the civilians.

00:12:32.000 Okay.

00:12:33.000 So in the sense of strategy for the withdrawal, this was the worst thing they could have done.

00:12:36.000 Yes, a premature surrender.

00:12:37.000 Well, it's not a war with a with a valuable goal.

00:12:39.000 Sure, there was a lot of tactical and operational errors for sure.

00:12:42.000 But like we were losing that war the minute we started.

00:12:45.000 Well, it's not a war with a with a valuable goal.

00:12:48.000 I don't think I think it was a pointless endeavor, but we were dominating in force.

00:12:52.000 We were winning the force.

00:12:54.000 But were we really though?

00:12:55.000 Cause the whole point, I guess, well not the whole point, but one of the points of being there was to build up this army that was going to be able to defend Afghanistan from all these other bad guys.

00:13:03.000 And in the very first possible moment where they were there to do the job that they were trained for, they didn't just do the job poorly.

00:13:15.000 They just said, just kidding, we're not even doing it.

00:13:18.000 I agree and disagree.

00:13:21.000 I think they certainly did a poor job, but there's a video of Afghan commandos fighting back, defending territory from the Taliban, and they run out of ammo.

00:13:31.000 And the Taliban comes in, so they drop their guns, and the Taliban executes them.

00:13:34.000 There's video of this happening.

00:13:36.000 The Taliban wants to post their victories. 0.95

00:13:38.000 You have Joe Biden abandoning Bagram in the dead of night.

00:13:41.000 Without telling them.

00:13:42.000 Right.

00:13:43.000 So it's like, if you've got... You're a country that's been built up by 20 years of occupation.

00:13:48.000 America comes in. 0.68

00:13:49.000 They build up this whole apparatus in Afghanistan.

00:13:52.000 And they say, it's our airbase.

00:13:54.000 Here's what we're going to do.

00:13:55.000 Here's the logistic.

00:13:55.000 Here's the contractors.

00:13:56.000 And you're like, okay, I guess.

00:13:58.000 And there's no handoff of power.

00:14:00.000 And then all of a sudden, one day, the Taliban is storming in because you're pulling out.

00:14:04.000 And you're like, all right, let's go.

00:14:05.000 Where's our air force?

00:14:06.000 Nobody's there.

00:14:07.000 What do you mean nobody's there?

00:14:09.000 They did fight, and not every single one, but we had Afghan National Army defending the Kabul airport.

00:14:15.000 And I think, you know, initially, this was my mistake too, when Biden came out and said, you have Afghan security forces unwilling, or he said, why should we send the next generation of Americans to fight a war the Afghans are not willing to fight themselves?

00:14:29.000 And I was like, it's a good point.

00:14:31.000 And then I started reading the reports, I started reading the experts, reading the timeline of events, and I was like, yo, that's brutal.

00:14:38.000 Some of these guys did fight really, really hard, but Biden pulled support on July 1st.

00:14:42.000 Sure, sure.

00:14:43.000 So I'm sure some of them were definitely, you know, died in the war, true believers, Afghan army fighters wanting to defend themselves and their country from the Taliban.

00:14:52.000 But if you take it a couple of other data points, one, the Pew study that says 99% of Afghanistani citizens want to have Sharia law enacted.

00:14:59.000 And you contrast that with our efforts to take Afghanistan into modernity by teaching them gender studies, by trying to actually, you know, encourage homosexuality and all these things and women's rights and yada, yada, yada. 0.80

00:15:13.000 The culture, the culture, culture clash.

00:15:16.000 I'm thinking of that Cullen Brothers movie, Culture Crash.

00:15:19.000 The culture clash there was irreconcilable, and the civilizational clash was irreconcilable.

00:15:25.000 And just one last point on this, the whole American military machine is supported by this enormous logistics infrastructure, right?

00:15:34.000 Air support, weapons research and development, supply chains, manufacturing, all these things.

00:15:41.000 And they trained, apparently, and I'm not an expert, but I do talk to many, they trained the Afghan army to operate the same way that the United States military does, which requires this gigantic infrastructure behind it. 0.99

00:15:53.000 And so the minute you pull that infrastructure out, well, then, of course, it's stupid. 0.66

00:15:57.000 It's like giving the whole Afghan army a bunch of Teslas to drive and then taking away the electricity. 0.98

00:16:04.000 That's actually a really good metaphor.

00:16:06.000 There's a photo, I don't know if it's real, but it's a Taliban guy pointing a gun at a bunch of civilians who are like shocked and scared and they're standing up against a wall of like the UN security goals or whatever.

00:16:17.000 I don't know if that's true because it's awfully convenient but I'm like it was a convincing photo nonetheless and it was like here's our sustainability goals you know or whatever the plan they've got the website.

00:16:26.000 Taliban's all about the memes these days I hear.

00:16:28.000 Posting memes, man.

00:16:29.000 They're killing it on Twitter, dude. 0.99

00:16:31.000 Killing it on Twitter. 0.99

00:16:32.000 Now, hold on.

00:16:33.000 It's not all bad news because we have this story from Politico.

00:16:38.000 We have another story, too.

00:16:39.000 Apparently, Mark Milley says it's possible the U.S.

00:16:42.000 will work with the Taliban because of ISIS-K. 0.95

00:16:45.000 Cool.

00:16:45.000 So we have that.

00:16:46.000 And then we also have the Biden administration is now considering giving the Taliban cash aid if they uphold their international obligations.

00:16:54.000 So it seems like Biden's strategy was like, well, We can pay to have people there on the ground, securing the country indefinitely, or we can pay the Taliban to just do whatever, as long as they do the things we like.

00:17:07.000 We know how that plays out.

00:17:09.000 You give the Taliban cash, you encourage all the bad things they're doing, because then they're like, we'll keep doing bad things unless you give us more money.

00:17:15.000 Then you give them money, the bad things go down for a few months, and they start coming back, and they say, well maybe you gotta give us more money.

00:17:21.000 It's like that trope where the private detective walks in and he's like, I need information.

00:17:26.000 And then he's like, you know, maybe I need a little cash.

00:17:29.000 And then he hands him money and the guy goes, maybe I need a little bit more.

00:17:31.000 And he keeps milking it as much as he can.

00:17:33.000 Yeah, you can't do that.

00:17:34.000 It doesn't work.

00:17:34.000 Well, when you lose a war, the loser always pays.

00:17:38.000 Period.

00:17:39.000 We lost a war, therefore we pay. 0.61

00:17:41.000 None of that surprises me.

00:17:43.000 When you lose a war, you pay money.

00:17:46.000 Ask England or sorry, even even if you help somebody win a war, they still pay.

00:17:50.000 Well, you can also end a war with what's called a white peace, which is where nobody wins and nobody loses. 0.96

00:17:55.000 It's just the war just stops.

00:17:56.000 And that's probably what should have happened, but they surrendered.

00:17:59.000 That's a different form of ending a war.

00:18:01.000 That's when you give them money.

00:18:03.000 I think all this comes back to our original question that we formulated a while back. 0.98

00:18:06.000 Dumb or diabolical? 0.98

00:18:08.000 Great game. 1.00

00:18:09.000 Dumb or diabolical? 1.00

00:18:10.000 I'm leaning dumb here. 1.00

00:18:12.000 They're going to work with the Taliban and give them cash? 0.97

00:18:14.000 I don't know if that's... I mean, it could be dumb and diabolical. 0.99

00:18:17.000 No, I just mean the entire thing is dumb. 0.99

00:18:21.000 The entire, every decision to go in. 0.99

00:18:23.000 Going all the way back to George W. Bush's decision to go in there.

00:18:26.000 His announcement in the second inaugural address where he says that the American foreign policy goal is to end tyranny across the world.

00:18:33.000 What?

00:18:34.000 That was a radical transformation of American foreign policy that was doomed from the start.

00:18:39.000 It's representative of progressive ideology.

00:18:41.000 And it has now played out over 20 years, where along the way, we tried to gender studies them up and the whole thing to make them peaceful and modern, just like us.

00:18:50.000 And it failed, it failed, it failed, it failed. 1.00

00:18:52.000 It's dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb all down the way. 1.00

00:18:54.000 What did we do back in... Let me make sure I have the year right. 1.00

00:18:59.000 What was the Cold War era in Afghanistan, the 1970s?

00:19:02.000 Who was it that was being trained and armed in the 1970s in Afghanistan by the United States?

00:19:08.000 Some bad guys that came later to blow us up.

00:19:09.000 Yeah, they call them the Mujahideen.

00:19:11.000 Oh, the Mujahideen. 1.00

00:19:13.000 And the U.S.

00:19:15.000 armed and trained them so they would fight against the Soviets and drive the Soviet Union out.

00:19:19.000 And they did.

00:19:20.000 And then later on broke off to form Al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

00:19:23.000 And Al-Qaeda attacks us.

00:19:24.000 And then Taliban takes over Afghanistan.

00:19:26.000 And the U.S.

00:19:27.000 goes, oh, no, now we have to evade Iraq. 0.60

00:19:31.000 I guess, because Saddam Hussein's bad and, you know, that whole thing's going on, so then we did that. 0.99

00:19:34.000 Of course, we went to Afghanistan first. 0.99

00:19:35.000 And so I look at this and I'm wondering, Jack, are they really dumb? 0.99

00:19:39.000 Or is Iran about to get a whole lot of weapons? 0.98

00:19:43.000 High-grade, advanced American weaponry, because Afghanistan can't maintain their own economy. 0.97

00:19:47.000 Already we're seeing videos and photos of people lining up outside of banks by the hundreds, because the economy just stopped.

00:19:53.000 There's no central banker anymore.

00:19:54.000 Not like I like central banking.

00:19:55.000 But the people who ran that place are gone.

00:19:58.000 You think the Taliban keep the power on?

00:19:59.000 No.

00:20:00.000 But I'll tell you what they can do.

00:20:01.000 They can call their buddies over in Iran and say, we need infrastructure help now. 0.98

00:20:05.000 And Iran will be like, we see you got some pretty black cocks over there. 1.00

00:20:08.000 So what happens, real quick, in 10, 15, or 20 years, when you've got a new ISIS armed 0.96

00:20:14.000 with advanced American weaponry, and they're causing problems, and the older generation 0.99

00:20:19.000 is retiring, or many are passing on, you know, we're all, you know, we're going to be in

00:20:24.000 our 50s and 60s, and the young generation, not remembering any of what happened, says,

00:20:29.000 oh no, these evil people overseas are, you know, violent and oppressive, we should stop

00:20:35.000 And the U.S.

00:20:35.000 goes, oh no, look at all the weapons and all the terror, we have to stop them.

00:20:39.000 So the U.S.

00:20:40.000 arms and funds the Mujahideen, they become the al-Qaeda and the Taliban, justification for our wars in the Middle East, once again, and are we on that same track? 1.00

00:20:47.000 Probably because we're stupid. 0.99

00:20:49.000 We don't understand anything that's going on over there. 1.00

00:20:52.000 We don't understand any of the historical tribal differences.

00:20:56.000 We don't understand all of it.

00:20:57.000 Now, but you brought up a lot of points.

00:20:59.000 Just give me just a little bit of space to get to them.

00:21:02.000 I have talked to a number of experts, military experts, US special forces, captains and pilots that have flown this type of equipment that is there on the ground, who operated in theater, logisticians, whose job it was to support the aircraft and the helicopters that are on the ground in Afghanistan.

00:21:16.000 And to a man, each single one of them told me the same thing.

00:21:19.000 One, any of the technology that we gave the Afghanistan army was old, old stuff.

00:21:24.000 It was not the latest and greatest, none of it.

00:21:26.000 We didn't give them the highest, latest and greatest weapon, weaponry systems.

00:21:29.000 And they weren't even the latest and greatest Blackhawk versions.

00:21:32.000 Two, that China and Iran have both had access to this technology since the 80s.

00:21:38.000 Three, that it will be impossible to sustain and maintain this hardware in that desert without the massive logistical support that comes with the United States military.

00:21:48.000 So, uh, and again, I get tons of pushback on this on Twitter.

00:21:51.000 I don't know about any of this stuff.

00:21:53.000 I'm literally talking to people that were in theater infield who knows equipment and know how it works.

00:21:57.000 And this is what they have told me.

00:21:58.000 People, people often respond to us saying that Iran still uses, you know, captured planes from the seventies.

00:22:03.000 They do because now this is in the comparison.

00:22:05.000 Again, I've had the same argument and I researched the same thing.

00:22:08.000 The difference between Iran and Afghanistan are vast.

00:22:12.000 Iran has is a fully formed civilization of thousands of years.

00:22:17.000 They have their own domestic commercial aviation industry.

00:22:20.000 They make planes and engines and stuff.

00:22:23.000 Afghanistan doesn't even have electricity.

00:22:26.000 What country is to the west of Afghanistan?

00:22:28.000 Now to that point, as far as I understand it, and I'm not an expert, so if I'm wrong, I apologize.

00:22:33.000 People tell me.

00:22:34.000 Iran, Shia, Afghanistan, Sunni. 0.54

00:22:39.000 How are they?

00:22:39.000 They're natural born enemies.

00:22:42.000 Why are they supporting each other?

00:22:43.000 Are they supporting each other?

00:22:46.000 I don't know.

00:22:46.000 So all these arguments that I'm hearing about Iran's going to help Afghanistan and we're giving them all this equipment and whatever, upon further investigation, not all of that holds up.

00:22:55.000 I mean, well, I wouldn't say that doesn't hold up.

00:22:58.000 Good argument.

00:22:58.000 And obviously, look, we're a bunch of guys on the internet talking about this great war, and I'm sure there's some like, you know, E4 or whatever, who's like, he knows so much more than we do.

00:23:07.000 I'm sure.

00:23:07.000 But I've talked to the guys that actually know who are in the field that fly the things, that fly the things in Afghanistan, that have been there and done it and supported it.

00:23:16.000 In order to do a hardware overhaul on a Blackhawk, it takes a year to disassemble it.

00:23:23.000 Before it takes two years to put it back together.

00:23:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:26.000 And that is just to support it from regular flight operations.

00:23:30.000 And I see they're doing military parades in there.

00:23:32.000 And you know, guys, by the way, that that Blackhawk image that the guy hanging from it, he wasn't hanging.

00:23:36.000 He was in a harness and he was waving to everybody.

00:23:38.000 Yeah.

00:23:38.000 OK, they were flaunting it.

00:23:39.000 They weren't killing anybody.

00:23:40.000 But the point is, they're just joyriding this stuff around, which means it's going to degrade even more quickly. 0.98

00:23:45.000 But they don't care because they beat us without any of that crap in the first place. 0.96

00:23:50.000 You know why? 0.98

00:23:51.000 Because they have time and they have mountains.

00:23:53.000 Indeed.

00:23:53.000 No, no, no, I'm pretty sure they had F-15s and nuclear weapons.

00:23:56.000 Joe Biden said you'd have to have that to defeat the US.

00:23:58.000 So clearly they did and Biden's just keeping it a secret from us because if we found out

00:24:02.000 the Taliban had nukes we'd be real scared, right? 0.98

00:24:05.000 Or they're just mountain people with guns.

00:24:07.000 Mountain people with guns, which is exactly what I want to be here in the United States. 1.00

00:24:11.000 And I had a friend joke that Appalachia will be the graveyard of empires here in the United States.

00:24:19.000 Right?

00:24:20.000 The graveyard of empires in Appalachia.

00:24:22.000 Like, you know, so I was watching this, I was reading something about why Afghanistan is just a terrible location.

00:24:29.000 And it's because there's people who grow up there, who live there, who live in the mountains, and subsist on mountain life.

00:24:37.000 And we try to go in, and that's the high ground!

00:24:39.000 It's very difficult to occupy for people.

00:24:42.000 I mean, it's the altitude, it's the breathing.

00:24:43.000 And so, there's not a lot there.

00:24:45.000 It's rocky, and it's just hard to hold.

00:24:47.000 No great empire's been able to do it.

00:24:49.000 So I wonder if that, you know, then translates to, to Appalachia.

00:24:53.000 It does indeed.

00:24:54.000 And I was just watching the Patriot the other night and it's a historical significance aside, a powerful movie, but there's a great line in there where Mel Gibson's like, you know, I taught you every back trail and cave and hideout in this region.

00:25:05.000 And that's what we're going to do.

00:25:06.000 And that's how we're going to use it.

00:25:07.000 And that's what I've always been taught about the American revolution is that we ultimately won mostly because we knew the train and we could act in a guerrilla fashion, et cetera.

00:25:16.000 But look, I think that's a myth actually.

00:25:18.000 But that is why we won?

00:25:19.000 It wasn't because we stood up in front of the British and just shot more musket balls.

00:25:22.000 No, it was because the French intervened and Britain was strained.

00:25:26.000 And then, I mean, the revolution went on for 20 years.

00:25:29.000 You know, the formal declaration happens sometime after there was already revolution and rebellion.

00:25:34.000 And there was shooting and the British Empire was finally like, we can't do this anymore.

00:25:38.000 But I do think the Grill Tax obviously did play a role for sure, but I think it's overstated.

00:25:43.000 I was reading something about it and they were like, I think it's understated how much of the French intervening was like, I think the French wiped out the British Navy at some point.

00:25:51.000 And they showed up there at the end and it was really helpful.

00:25:53.000 But, uh, to, just to finish this one thought, um, look, if you're going to colonize a country, you can't just send a governor and some army guys and hope that you're going to change the nature of the country.

00:26:08.000 You have to send families.

00:26:10.000 You have to send settlers. 1.00

00:26:12.000 You have to send people to build cities and create culture and art and commerce and all these things.

00:26:18.000 Which is why, actually, we in the United States gained our independence is because they had to send actual humans and families and people to settle the United States. 0.89

00:26:27.000 It wasn't just a colony in the Caribbean or in Africa where we could just send a governor

00:26:32.000 and some troops and just extract the resources that we wanted from those countries.

00:26:36.000 We had to actually send human beings to come live here and have their lives here, which 1.00

00:26:40.000 is why in a way it was so successful that it was such a civilization that we were like,

00:26:46.000 you know, that's it to England.

00:26:48.000 You need stories.

00:26:49.000 The people, the people who are, who are growing up in Afghanistan don't have any national unity. 1.00

00:26:54.000 The story that they're told that the kids growing up is the Americans invaded and took over and now we live under their rule.

00:27:00.000 What great story.

00:27:01.000 So, you know, when I'm a kid and I'm growing up, I see that photo of Iwo Jima and they're raising the flag and, you know, never forgetting all of these things, these things meant to inspire and tell kids, that's what you want to be like.

00:27:12.000 That's what you aspire to be.

00:27:14.000 What do they have in Afghanistan if you're growing up and you're like, we were conquered? 0.63

00:27:20.000 So the people in the street are celebrating with the Taliban. 0.90

00:27:22.000 Well, that's not the story they told him.

00:27:24.000 What they told him was that empires, Alexander the Great, the Russians, the Americans, they all come here and they all lose.

00:27:30.000 Son, son, we're just waiting them out.

00:27:34.000 And I don't want to use this cliché because it's so cliché and everybody uses it, but they're like, son, they got watches, we got time.

00:27:40.000 That's the thing.

00:27:40.000 If you're going to colonize a desert mountain, then you need to import food and that's going to cost you trillions and trillions of dollars.

00:27:48.000 You need to import water.

00:27:50.000 That's another trillion.

00:27:51.000 For 80 years, you got to fund that thing.

00:27:53.000 It's going to be an 80 year project.

00:27:54.000 For three centuries, if you want that to happen.

00:27:57.000 The fundamental error here is that we in our progressive era politics and foreign policy and modernity and all these things that we think we can change everyone around the world if they could just listen to us and learn our ways they will improve and change and whatever and our arrogance Let us to believe that not only were we going to just go to like a country that was like a step below us and just kind of bring them up to where we were.

00:28:22.000 No, we were going to go to the most bass-ackwards place in the entire world with a civilization more antithetical to ours than any other in existence and try to bring them up to 2021 wokeness.

00:28:38.000 That is the height of folly.

00:28:40.000 I'll tell you what I think.

00:28:42.000 What country is to the west of Afghanistan?

00:28:46.000 We mentioned it, but I'm asking again.

00:28:47.000 God, I don't know.

00:28:48.000 There's Pakistan and Iran and Iraq and China. 0.83

00:28:53.000 They're all over there somewhere.

00:28:54.000 To the west of Afghanistan.

00:28:55.000 Why are you putting me on the spot?

00:28:57.000 I'm just doing this as a rhetorical device.

00:28:59.000 Everyone should do this.

00:29:00.000 You should look at a map.

00:29:01.000 Look at a map and get familiar with the area right now.

00:29:02.000 The country directly west of Afghanistan is Iran.

00:29:04.000 Okay, there we go.

00:29:05.000 Do you know what country is directly east of Iraq?

00:29:08.000 Iran? 0.79

00:29:08.000 Iran! 0.79

00:29:09.000 And so when you look at what John Bolton's been saying, that we will be celebrating victory in Tehran by this time next year instead of a couple years ago, it sounds to me like the purpose of Afghanistan is not to create a nation necessarily, but to create a stronghold where we can supply troops and have military infrastructure because they wanted to invade Iran. 0.60

00:29:28.000 Oh, well, that's absolutely true.

00:29:30.000 That was all part of the neocon dominoes falling theory that they put forth after after we decided to invade.

00:29:39.000 OK, that's the part that people forget, I believe, is that we decided to invade Afghanistan and then Iraq before Wolfowitz and the neocons had fully formulated their spreading democracy concept.

00:29:52.000 I believe that the spreading democracy concept came after the urge to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

00:29:57.000 But this is me going back 20 years and trying to remember the news reports at the time.

00:30:02.000 I was in grad school, so we were talking about this quite a bit.

00:30:05.000 And I just remember Wolfowitz and the neocons formulating the spreading of democracy and the dominoes falling theory after it was already determined by Bush's rhetoric.

00:30:15.000 He would do this word smash where he would go, Terror!

00:30:18.000 Iraq, Al Qaeda, 9-11, Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein, Iraq, weapons of mass destruction,

00:30:25.000 Afghanistan, Iraq, Saddam Hussein, terror, terror, and he would just mash all those words up together

00:30:31.000 without any logical coherence, but he would just say them together in a rhythm in such a way that

00:30:36.000 everyone began to associate all those concepts together.

00:30:40.000 Al-Qaeda, Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, Iraq.

00:30:44.000 Ah, 9-11.

00:30:45.000 Ah, more of this is going to happen.

00:30:46.000 Ah, we have to defend ourselves.

00:30:48.000 That was the banging of the war drums at that time.

00:30:52.000 And I believe that the academic infrastructure for all this, the Wolfowitz-led neocon theory, abdominal falling and such, My memory could be wrong, and I was younger then, for sure, was that that came after, afterwards, and became the justification for this prolonged experience that we had there.

00:31:09.000 That, of course, the military-industrial complex gets behind, and they're like, yeah, we can sell more bombs.

00:31:13.000 You know what I'm really, really impressed by?

00:31:15.000 You gotta give it to the United States, the power and the prowess of their armed forces in being able to stage an invasion of a country less than a month after the terror attack that happened, which was the reason for that attack.

00:31:27.000 Wait, we invaded Afghanistan in October of 2001?

00:31:30.000 October 7th, 2001.

00:31:32.000 So that means 9-11 happens.

00:31:36.000 George W. Bush says, we know who did it.

00:31:38.000 He reached out to the Taliban and says, hand over Osama bin Laden.

00:31:41.000 They said, give us proof.

00:31:42.000 He says, we don't need proof.

00:31:43.000 We know he's guilty.

00:31:44.000 I'm paraphrasing, but that's like near accurate quote.

00:31:47.000 And then in less than a month, the U.S.

00:31:49.000 had the resources and the strategic positions to invade a country.

00:31:53.000 I mean, that is...

00:31:54.000 That's not a coincidence.

00:31:57.000 They've been at this for decades and decades.

00:31:59.000 Are you insinuating that 9-11 was an inside job meant to deter, meant to set us on some foreign policy excursion?

00:32:07.000 No, I think George W. Bush wanted to invade Afghanistan no matter what happened, and after 9-11 happened he was like,

00:32:12.000 well, we're gonna win.

00:32:13.000 Afghanistan or Iraq?

00:32:14.000 Iraq was later.

00:32:15.000 His dad invaded Iraq in the 90s!

00:32:18.000 So I remember their arguments back then, because I'm a little bit older than you guys, and I remember them saying like, oh, all this is about George Bush avenging his daddy.

00:32:26.000 And so maybe in his mind, and I don't know, I'm totally speculating.

00:32:29.000 I know people who know this, so maybe I should just ask them.

00:32:32.000 But maybe when he got into office, he was like, we got to fix this thing in Iraq.

00:32:36.000 And then 9-11 happened, and it was like, oh, we'll do this, then we'll do that.

00:32:39.000 I'm saying they wanted to invade already.

00:32:42.000 They talked about it.

00:32:47.000 They had the invasion in the 90s.

00:32:49.000 They wanted to go in.

00:32:50.000 The neocons wanted to invade.

00:32:53.000 And I'm saying that we were very quick.

00:32:57.000 What I mean to say is, we waited no time.

00:33:00.000 We didn't say, let's have international hearings.

00:33:03.000 Let's get a third nation involved to make demands of the Taliban. 0.98

00:33:07.000 Let's put international pressure.

00:33:08.000 It was less than a month.

00:33:09.000 And we didn't go after Bin Laden.

00:33:11.000 We set up a nation building.

00:33:13.000 No, no, no, no.

00:33:14.000 We didn't go after him.

00:33:15.000 Yeah, part of the project we did, but then we let him go and Bora Bora.

00:33:20.000 But I'll push back on one thing you said there.

00:33:23.000 They definitely formed an international coalition.

00:33:25.000 They definitely brought in other countries.

00:33:27.000 There definitely was a huge coalition of countries that went into Afghanistan.

00:33:30.000 I don't mean for invasion.

00:33:32.000 I mean for verification.

00:33:33.000 Hey, how about before we invade a country, we have council hearings, you know, we, we make demands, we sanction, like, it's really interesting that the Taliban said, give us proof.

00:33:43.000 Bush said, we don't need proof.

00:33:44.000 You know, he's guilty.

00:33:45.000 And then we're going to war in less than a month.

00:33:47.000 It's like, yo, yo, like Halliburton is ready.

00:33:50.000 Let's get those contracts.

00:33:51.000 They wanted the war and they were like, we're going for it. 0.97

00:33:54.000 You know, what's funny, if you think about the timeline, actually, uh, from 1991 until September 11th, That's the period in time that I call the Pax Americana.

00:34:06.000 That is when we were cashing the peace dividend of the end of the Cold War.

00:34:10.000 There wasn't any obvious international hegemon that was challenging us anywhere.

00:34:16.000 The Soviet Union had fallen.

00:34:18.000 We had gotten so comfortable, actually, that we had turned our foreign policy attention to The Western Hemisphere, we were like engaging with Latin America.

00:34:26.000 We're going to build a free trade area of the Americas, all this stuff.

00:34:29.000 There wasn't any real war or military conflict or clearly defined enemy at all whatsoever from 91 until 2001.

00:34:38.000 So it is a reasonable presumption to make that in that intervening 10 years, all the military industrial complex guys were like, Oh, we got to get something here.

00:34:47.000 We got to get something going.

00:34:48.000 We got to get something.

00:34:49.000 What's it going to be?

00:34:51.000 And then Iraq and then Iraq. 0.76

00:34:52.000 And I mean, we did have Saddam Hussein in the Iraq thing.

00:34:56.000 Well, we did.

00:34:57.000 But, you know, he was a boogeyman.

00:34:59.000 Those are teeny tiny.

00:35:00.000 Those are teeny tiny little things.

00:35:02.000 They wanted a 20 year guaranteed no bid contract, right?

00:35:05.000 Source extraction, the whole thing.

00:35:07.000 Yeah.

00:35:07.000 I'm trying to remember what year was Bush's second election.

00:35:12.000 Was that 2002?

00:35:13.000 2004.

00:35:14.000 It was 2004.

00:35:15.000 Yeah.

00:35:15.000 2000 he got elected.

00:35:16.000 2004 was re-election.

00:35:17.000 2004.

00:35:18.000 Yeah.

00:35:18.000 So by the time he makes that second inaugural and the goal of America is to end tyranny around the world, we'd already been way, way involved.

00:35:26.000 So that wasn't leading.

00:35:28.000 Right.

00:35:28.000 That's what I mean.

00:35:28.000 I want to go back to the Iranian revolution of 1979.

00:35:30.000 This is a little bit before my time.

00:35:32.000 I was born in 79.

00:35:33.000 But I mean, they had this guy, the Shah, and it was like this this 2000 year old monarchy. 0.55

00:35:37.000 And they basically I think the CIA caused this revolution, this to this theocratic was the Ayatollah Khomeini, this this like now they're this theocratic Muslim, well, theocracy country. 0.95

00:35:50.000 But we basically created that.

00:35:52.000 Yes, we did.

00:35:53.000 Why?

00:35:53.000 I don't know!

00:35:54.000 To make enemies for people in the region, I think?

00:35:57.000 Soviet Union?

00:35:57.000 But then all of a sudden the world became globalized, and internet, and now... Yeah, specifically the Soviet Union?

00:36:03.000 Is this like, the Soviet Union falls, and now the US is like, okay, time to clean up the mess we made? 0.84

00:36:07.000 Is that what they've been doing?

00:36:08.000 Well, I mean, that was 1979, the Iranian Revolution.

00:36:11.000 But after the Soviet Union falls, I don't know about cleaning up the mess, but it's like expand the footprint, grow the empire, more bombs, more wars, more money, expand. 0.90

00:36:21.000 Remember, this is all tied at the same time to neo neoliberal economics, which is like blow out all the markets, free trade.

00:36:29.000 Let's engage with China.

00:36:30.000 Let's engage with every EU.

00:36:32.000 Let's create the free trade area of the Americas, which was all just about globalized, globalized, globalized.

00:36:38.000 So it all adds up and stacks up into the globalization theory.

00:36:43.000 This whole thing that we're basically, me and my friends, and maybe you guys are on board now, I don't know, are anti-globalization.

00:36:51.000 And all these things that we're talking about are globalization, about the globalization of American empire, globalization of American trade, American values, American freedoms, American all the things.

00:36:59.000 What's the issue you have with globalization?

00:37:01.000 Like, what are some bad things to say about it?

00:37:03.000 Well, I mean, look, the great example is what we're just talking about here with Afghanistan is that we believe that we have a set of values and customs and morals and a virtuous framework that we can go and just apply universally to civilizations across the world.

00:37:15.000 Does not work.

00:37:17.000 People are different and they don't want what we are selling.

00:37:22.000 Right.

00:37:22.000 You'd have to occupy for... I don't think three centuries.

00:37:25.000 Generations.

00:37:26.000 I think four generations.

00:37:27.000 Okay, yeah.

00:37:27.000 Enough.

00:37:27.000 By their country or their mind.

00:37:29.000 Enough to have all of the people who remember the old ways pass on.

00:37:33.000 Dead.

00:37:33.000 And then the next generation remembers nothing and says, this is the way things are.

00:37:37.000 They've always been.

00:37:38.000 Right, right.

00:37:38.000 So that's one element.

00:37:40.000 The second element of globalization that's no good for everybody is the race to the bottom on wages and environmental standards, which is what the... I'm throwing environmental standards in as sort of a joke, but that was the argument against the 1999 WTO ascension of China into the World Trade Organization, of which Black Bloc, the precursor to American Antifa, was protesting. 0.84

00:38:01.000 Well, BlackBlock was just a tactic. 0.93

00:38:03.000 Antifa uses the BlackBlock tactic.

00:38:05.000 So it was leftist activists using the BlackBlock tactic, same as Antifa, in opposition to the World Trade Organization.

00:38:12.000 And their arguments were actually pretty salient.

00:38:17.000 We'll have a global downward pressure on wages.

00:38:19.000 We'll have a global downward pressure on environmental standards.

00:38:23.000 And what happened?

00:38:24.000 All that stuff went to China.

00:38:26.000 And they, you know, their environmental standards are much lower wages when exported all around the place.

00:38:31.000 And what happened?

00:38:31.000 Our entire middle class and industrial, uh, you know, support within the United States has been completely hollowed out and offshored.

00:38:38.000 So like globalization, the fundamental problem with globalization is that our cultural way of life is unique to us as a people.

00:38:49.000 It is not a universally applicable to every civilization and person around the world.

00:38:55.000 And that is a hubris and arrogance that we have to get over.

00:38:58.000 But that's and you're right.

00:38:59.000 And that's what a lot of these dictators and conquerors all believed.

00:39:04.000 Every single one of these authoritarian dictatorships who are expanding and taking over thought, this set of values we have is universal and can be applied.

00:39:13.000 The thing about the communists that's different from us to a certain degree is that they were like, we'll just kill anybody who opposes us.

00:39:20.000 The US does that to a certain degree, but they genuinely try to buy people.

00:39:24.000 That's the capitalist approach.

00:39:26.000 Just give them money and comforts.

00:39:28.000 It's really amazing.

00:39:28.000 You give them something to lose.

00:39:30.000 Whereas the communists were like, we'll just lose them.

00:39:33.000 Right.

00:39:34.000 Well, what's interesting, too, about communism is that it's like subnation state.

00:39:38.000 It's like below the level of nation state.

00:39:40.000 It's a way to unite various factions and people in different nations against the nation state that they're living in, which was what the end of the Westphalian era and the Westphalian Treaty was supposed to be about, which is supposed to be about like Nations here not meddling with their ethnic group and they're in that nation and like setting up these boundaries so that the conflicts were actually between nations but then communism came along and made it so that people across different nations and boundaries could unite around a common cause and become a common faction because a common problem.

00:40:10.000 Now, that's not, you know, totally notwithstanding all the issues around communism, but that is one of the interesting conflicts it presents with the nation-state system as we have it.

00:40:19.000 Now, I think one of the things that we have to appreciate as Americans is that our American way of life, our values, our virtues, our constitutional republic, our representational government, all these things, they're not universally applicable.

00:40:35.000 Not everyone in the world wants it.

00:40:37.000 Not everyone in the world needs it.

00:40:39.000 Not everyone in the world is gonna thrive under it.

00:40:41.000 It is specific to us in our context, in our geography, in our history, in our language, in our religion, in our people.

00:40:49.000 And that's why it works for us.

00:40:50.000 It's our thing.

00:40:51.000 You know what I absolutely loved?

00:40:54.000 There are many things I've done in my life, and there are many things that I've experienced.

00:40:57.000 I'm like, this is amazing.

00:40:58.000 Going to Taksim Square in Istanbul and Istiklal, amazing.

00:41:02.000 Because I'll tell you this, so you've got Toxin Square, obviously the riots and the tear gas was certainly experienced.

00:41:07.000 I wouldn't call it a net positive.

00:41:09.000 You know, people giving you like lemon juice to like wipe off the tear gas.

00:41:12.000 I don't know if that works, it just made it hurt more.

00:41:14.000 But anyway, so that was an experience.

00:41:15.000 But no, no, yours was brilliant.

00:41:17.000 When the conflict wasn't happening, here I am in this beautiful park.

00:41:21.000 With people doing their thing, and there are these really old, like several hundred year old baklava shops.

00:41:28.000 And you go in and they have all these different kinds of baklava, and it's amazing.

00:41:32.000 So delicious.

00:41:33.000 And they would give you these little things of ice cream with it, and that was something I never got anywhere.

00:41:37.000 I've had baklava in the United States, not the same.

00:41:40.000 By no stretch.

00:41:40.000 I was there for a couple weeks, and I was gaining weight.

00:41:42.000 I was like, this stuff is too good, it's just drenched in sugar syrup.

00:41:46.000 And the desserts they have, they take like grain and they twist it and spiral it and then pour syrup on it.

00:41:50.000 And that was something unique in that experience.

00:41:52.000 And I love that.

00:41:53.000 Walking down Istiklal, this long street.

00:41:57.000 And I'll tell you my problem with globalization.

00:42:00.000 I had that experience.

00:42:01.000 And the, oh man, and the Islak burgers.

00:42:03.000 You know what that means?

00:42:04.000 Wet hamburger.

00:42:05.000 They take the burger, they like dip it in like, they get it all moist.

00:42:08.000 We gotta make these things.

00:42:09.000 It's like lamb, and then it's like they put this sauce on it, and then they steam it, and then they wrap it so it gets soggy, and it's like a buck, and you're all drunk in the middle of the night, and you walk in, and they just take it out of the heater and give it to you, and everyone's just eating it.

00:42:21.000 Amazing!

00:42:22.000 What an experience!

00:42:23.000 And I tell people like, you ever have like the Islaq burger?

00:42:26.000 And people are like, whoa, what's that?

00:42:27.000 It's this unique thing.

00:42:28.000 I went to the Bahamas.

00:42:31.000 Get off the cruise ship.

00:42:33.000 And I'm thinking this is going to be so much fun to bask in the culture that is the Bahamas.

00:42:37.000 And you know what I saw?

00:42:38.000 McDonald's.

00:42:38.000 McDonald's, Starbucks, Gucci, Hard Rock Cafe.

00:42:41.000 And I was like, this stuff's next door to me.

00:42:44.000 I don't want to go to the Bahamas for this.

00:42:45.000 So I had to walk into some neighborhoods and try and find a local shop where they're making local food.

00:42:49.000 And I was like, that's the problem.

00:42:51.000 It's going to be like everybody put on your gray jumpsuit, shave your head, Everything's the same.

00:42:57.000 No matter where you go, anywhere in the world, it's McDonald's and Starbucks.

00:43:01.000 Welcome to globalization.

00:43:03.000 It strips out the adventure and the uniqueness and the decentralization of the human experience.

00:43:09.000 Agreed.

00:43:09.000 And in fact, we call that global homogenization.

00:43:13.000 And that's something that we think is really bad.

00:43:15.000 And so, therefore, I am in favor of global homophobia.

00:43:19.000 That's what I'm in favor of.

00:43:20.000 Global homophobia.

00:43:22.000 Homogenophobia.

00:43:23.000 Yes, exactly.

00:43:24.000 My problem with globalization is, we had a guest on that actually made this point, I think, or you did about someone else that said it, is that it's inevitable.

00:43:32.000 It's going to happen regardless?

00:43:33.000 It is.

00:43:33.000 How is it going to happen?

00:43:34.000 Factually not inevitable.

00:43:36.000 At the rate we're going, the expansion and interloctivity of human interaction.

00:43:42.000 Interlocutionarity.

00:43:43.000 Ask Victor Orban if he believes that global homogenization is inevitable.

00:43:48.000 The point is that I think that it might be inevitable, but how it's going to happen is not, is variable.

00:43:54.000 So there's been a pushback against political globalization.

00:43:57.000 People don't want that.

00:43:58.000 People don't want that in the U.S., the Internet.

00:44:00.000 People are terrified of a one world government.

00:44:02.000 So they're going the economic route.

00:44:04.000 It's more cultural.

00:44:05.000 It's cultural, like with the movies and the music and the film and the jeans and the whiteness and all the things.

00:44:10.000 Those things are exported.

00:44:11.000 They can export them across the pipes.

00:44:13.000 You connect, you know, the Internet pipes up in the satellites and the whole thing.

00:44:17.000 That's everywhere.

00:44:17.000 Have have you ever been?

00:44:19.000 And dude, I have been to third world countries in backwater villages up the creek down the way where there's like nothing else.

00:44:25.000 But you know what you could get?

00:44:27.000 You get three things.

00:44:28.000 You can get a pack of Marlboro's.

00:44:29.000 You get a Coca-Cola.

00:44:31.000 You get a Johnny Walker.

00:44:32.000 You get those anywhere.

00:44:34.000 Johnny Walker?

00:44:34.000 Oh yeah.

00:44:35.000 Johnny Walker.

00:44:36.000 Johnny Walker.

00:44:36.000 It's all poison.

00:44:36.000 I tell you this, man.

00:44:37.000 When, uh, you know, the being in, in, in Egypt during the revolution, you see the McDonald's three blocks away.

00:44:44.000 That's decades old.

00:44:45.000 That's, that's been, that's been everywhere.

00:44:47.000 McDonald's has been in Beijing since, you know, who knows how long ago, but the most important salient factor in what we're talking about here is the values.

00:44:55.000 The political values, the personal values, the morals, the virtues, the family structure, all these things that we hold dear, the virtues that the country was built upon.

00:45:04.000 I just spent some time studying with the Claremont boys out there in Las Vegas at the fellowship.

00:45:08.000 Okay.

00:45:08.000 One of the things that we really was struck by when I'm reading original texts.

00:45:12.000 Original text from the founders, John Jay, Alexander Hamilton, all these guys, not only just the around the Federalist and the Constitution, but around state constitutions and the discussions around state constitutions, right?

00:45:23.000 So you get real context.

00:45:25.000 It's not just the federal thing.

00:45:26.000 It's in every state from everybody.

00:45:28.000 And they all firmly believe the couple of following facts.

00:45:31.000 One, that you have to build the government like a coat to suit the individual.

00:45:35.000 Okay?

00:45:36.000 It has to be specific to the people.

00:45:38.000 Two, that the American people were a unique set of people bound by language, culture, history, stories, experiences, blood, race, religion, and so forth.

00:45:47.000 And so therefore that the American government was built as a coat to suit these unique people.

00:45:53.000 And we can't take that coat.

00:45:55.000 Tim, imagine if we took my jacket and put it on you.

00:45:58.000 I'd be really warm.

00:45:59.000 You'd be really warm and you'd be swimming and you'd be half lost in that thing, right?

00:46:02.000 I could probably pitch a tent.

00:46:04.000 Put a stick up and then just sit under it.

00:46:06.000 Pitch a tent, he said.

00:46:07.000 Get a little fire going.

00:46:09.000 So if you gave me your jacket, I put it on, I put it on, I flex, and I bust the seams out like the Hulk.

00:46:14.000 It's a disaster, right?

00:46:15.000 Yeah, but it looks cool in slow motion.

00:46:17.000 So this is what our country was founded.

00:46:19.000 This is not just like one guy's idea.

00:46:21.000 This was the entirety of the people founding our country understood that our people were unique, our history was unique, our language and religion and culture were unique, and the government that we built was unique for those people. 0.94

00:46:32.000 So this idea that we can take what we have here for us, a special kind of people, and like just universally apply it across the world is asinine. 0.63

00:46:41.000 Well, what about Bitcoin? 0.66

00:46:42.000 I mean, I think that we've universally spread a concept globally where we're globalizing under a currency.

00:46:49.000 Yeah, but that's just the idea of money exists everywhere.

00:46:51.000 Commerce exists everywhere.

00:46:52.000 Exactly.

00:46:53.000 On Earth it does.

00:46:54.000 I'll put it this way.

00:46:55.000 It seems to.

00:46:56.000 I'm 50-50.

00:46:57.000 I think there needs to be strong international ties, but there needs to be sovereign respect.

00:47:01.000 So what I mean to say is, is there something we can do to make sure that a country's borders, laws, and customs are respected, and we prevent war.

00:47:14.000 We prevent major serious international conflict and destruction and Havana syndrome or nuclear weapons.

00:47:21.000 You know, what's funny is that the wars that we have been involved in are because we want to exert our way of life on other people.

00:47:27.000 I'll tell you.

00:47:28.000 I'll tell you.

00:47:29.000 Here's the problem.

00:47:29.000 It's utopian.

00:47:30.000 Yes.

00:47:32.000 I think globalization is very, very likely.

00:47:36.000 And the issue is there are people who are willing to die for their ideology or seriously harm others.

00:47:43.000 And there are people who aren't.

00:47:45.000 And, you know, the United States is a bunch of hyper individualistic Um, you know, right-wing nutjobs in the middle of the woods with a bunch of guns.

00:47:54.000 And I mean that in the best way possible.

00:47:55.000 I mean, like, we got a whole bunch of people who are sitting on a mound of beans with guns and be like, I'm not gonna bother you, you don't bother me, and I'm like, right on, brother!

00:48:03.000 So it's very hard to conquer.

00:48:05.000 That's not everybody, though.

00:48:06.000 There are a lot of countries where they're like, you know, my god is the one true god, therefore, and they're gonna fight and they're gonna attack.

00:48:13.000 And then you have communists who have found subversion to be the powerful method.

00:48:17.000 And so now you might have that hyper-individualistic dude who's, you know, living in the mountains, who's minding his own business respectfully, peacefully, and he's well-prepared, but all around him the cities are falling to subversive ideologies to submit We have a relatively decentralized system here compared to many other places.

00:48:36.000 By design, yeah.

00:48:38.000 By design.

00:48:39.000 And so you can subvert that.

00:48:41.000 And that's what communists and Marxists and others have been doing.

00:48:44.000 So ultimately what I see is those who are willing to oppress, lie, cheat, and steal have a major advantage and they've been winning in that front.

00:48:52.000 And that's because the difference between what we have here and what they have there, and at least at the time of the founding and for most of American existence, was that the American citizenry was devout Christian. 0.76

00:49:05.000 Okay.

00:49:06.000 And so this is the fundamental issue is that our declaration of independence is based on natural law and natural rights, which come from the creator.

00:49:17.000 And in a Christian belief, the Creator is a monotheistic God.

00:49:21.000 So there's only one God.

00:49:23.000 And if you've got other gods, you're wrong.

00:49:26.000 So we have one God, natural law, natural rights, American Constitutional Republic.

00:49:31.000 That's the direct lineage in the Declaration of Independence, and that's what everybody at the time thought when they signed the thing.

00:49:37.000 And so if you believe at the same time that there's only one God, and that everybody else's God is wrong, well then there's almost a compulsion to spread that ideology to other people.

00:49:47.000 But I think what we need to do is just respect the fact that other people have different ideas.

00:49:51.000 And I interviewed Alexander Dugin, the Russian philosopher who pushes his ethnic multipolarity ideas, because he believes that people are different based on their geography and their location and their history and who they are inside, etc.

00:50:05.000 And that they evolve into needing different political regimes.

00:50:09.000 People have evolved to need different political regimes.

00:50:12.000 The Chinese, for example, have evolved in their own civilization, in their own context, with their own everything.

00:50:19.000 So they've evolved their own political regime, just like we have here in the West.

00:50:24.000 But population growth will lead to borders pressing on borders.

00:50:28.000 There's no free land anymore for the most part.

00:50:30.000 There's like some rock, like volcanic rock I was looking at down by Antarctica that's like unclaimed.

00:50:34.000 Trying to find unclaimed land here.

00:50:36.000 It doesn't exist.

00:50:37.000 You can build islands.

00:50:38.000 Sure, sure, but the point is that we've reached- it used to be like, okay, it's no big deal because there were a lot of places that were just open and- Send them to the colonies! 0.81

00:50:47.000 Right?

00:50:47.000 Yeah, and they're ill-defined territories, so people who are like- People with claims.

00:50:52.000 Remember when there was just like claims on land?

00:50:54.000 Well, we claim this and we claim that.

00:50:56.000 No, now there's nations everywhere.

00:50:57.000 I have a weak claim on Norway.

00:50:58.000 So now what happens when China says we need to expand?

00:51:02.000 And as we expand, we need more resources.

00:51:04.000 And we can't get access to Resource X because it's not within our borders.

00:51:09.000 Let's go ask them for it.

00:51:10.000 What would you want?

00:51:11.000 We'll not give you anything for this resource, but we have to have it.

00:51:13.000 Otherwise, our people are suffering.

00:51:15.000 When a population of any species grows too large, and the amount of resources levels out, everyone suffers.

00:51:21.000 You see it in every overpopulated species.

00:51:24.000 Deer, pigs, turkeys, whatever.

00:51:26.000 They become sickly, they become malnourished, and they fight, become aggressive because there's just enough resources to sustain their current level of population.

00:51:34.000 So then what do you think's gonna happen to people when in a country like China with 1.4 billion, they're like, we gotta get food somehow, we're importing it from Australia. 0.57

00:51:42.000 What happens when these other countries start saying, we're not gonna give it to you?

00:51:45.000 Well, we're not gonna sit here and die.

00:51:47.000 And now that there's no unclaimed land, someone's gonna have to give up what they did claim.

00:51:51.000 Well, you bring up an interesting point, which is that every other country around the world shares the perspective that I am putting forth right now, which is that there is no universal morality, no universal virtue, no universal political regime, no universal constitution that should be applied, no universal rights, none of it.

00:52:08.000 No one else believes that except for us.

00:52:10.000 Well, there is a universal thing is economics.

00:52:13.000 It permeates everything.

00:52:15.000 A bank can cut your account.

00:52:17.000 They can remove you.

00:52:19.000 If you want to talk about disrupting the decentralized union of the United States, yeah, communism, but banking.

00:52:23.000 I hear what you're saying.

00:52:25.000 Can we just finish this one thought before we get on to that, which is to say that the Chinese people aren't looking at their Chinese government being like, Everybody here needs to be Chinese all around the world.

00:52:35.000 We're going to export Chinese ideology everywhere. 0.95

00:52:38.000 No, they're thinking mercantilist, right?

00:52:40.000 And that's one thing that we haven't woken up to is the fact that China is mercantilist.

00:52:45.000 Their national trade policy is to enhance their national standing and the good benefit to their people.

00:52:54.000 That's why they do trade, which is to make their nation stronger as a nation for foreign policy and national domestic policy issues.

00:53:01.000 But they're not out there trying to say everybody needs to be Chinese Communist Party.

00:53:05.000 No, they're like we want that food.

00:53:07.000 We're gonna go get it, which is a totally different perspective than what we have, which is like we have to end tyranny all around the world.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, but that idea of humanitarian is propaganda.

00:53:15.000 It was a way to sell war to people because we want to extract resources.

00:53:18.000 No, it's definitely not.

00:53:19.000 It's 100% not.

00:53:20.000 It goes all the way back to Woodrow Wilson.

00:53:21.000 It goes back to the Romans.

00:53:24.000 They conquered in the name of defense.

00:53:26.000 I will, I will say at least in America, it goes back to Woodrow Wilson and the initiation of the progressive policy and modernity and scientific method and the improvement of everything can be reduced.

00:53:35.000 We can eliminate evil.

00:53:36.000 We can eliminate disease.

00:53:38.000 It's reflected in the COVID zero policies that people have, especially in Australia and what's in America as well.

00:53:44.000 It's this idea that we can perfect things, perfect things, perfect things.

00:53:48.000 So if there's evil out there, we can perfect it.

00:53:49.000 True.

00:53:49.000 But I disagree. We did not get involved in Syria because we wanted to bring freedom and Bashar

00:53:56.000 al-Assad was an evil dictator. It's because for a long time we've been trying to build a pipeline,

00:54:01.000 the Qatar Turkey pipeline, and Syria said we will not go against the wishes of our ally Russia,

00:54:07.000 who says no to this because they want more control through Gazprom, etc. etc.

00:54:11.000 And so then back in 2009, the Guardian reported this a couple years later,

00:54:15.000 that the U.S. said we will have ground troops in Syria soon, within the next few years,

00:54:20.000 and then surprise surprise, as soon as there's an opportunity for the U.S. to get involved and

00:54:25.000 give weapons, it's interesting. You're pointing out competing factions.

00:54:28.000 You're pointing out competing factions.

00:54:29.000 Let me say something interesting.

00:54:31.000 In the American Revolution, the French say, we're at war with the British.

00:54:35.000 Hey, these colonists are going to help us.

00:54:37.000 Let's supply them with arms. 0.99

00:54:39.000 And then it worked and the Americans get independence.

00:54:42.000 In Syria, the U.S. 0.98

00:54:43.000 sees this uprising and they're like, and depending on who you ask, by the way, because the leftists will say it was a CIA conspiracy from the get-go, but they see this opportunity with this uprising and they're like, we should arm some of these people.

00:54:54.000 Because we don't like Bashar al-Assad!

00:54:56.000 So they intervene to provide resources to the competing faction, hoping that once it topples, we'll be able to build that pipeline.

00:55:02.000 Nothing to do with freedom.

00:55:03.000 Everything to do with opportunistic oil pipeline building.

00:55:06.000 I agree.

00:55:06.000 I agree with that.

00:55:07.000 I think what you're pointing out are competing factions within the United States foreign policy apparatus.

00:55:11.000 You're pointing out factions where people have like monetary, monetary, excuse me, monetary interests at heart.

00:55:17.000 But at the same time, there is this progressive ideology in our foreign policy, in our domestic policy, that's reflected in the gender policy and the Marxist policy and the feminist policy and the critical race theory policy, which is all about like perfecting things and making Perfect through science and the scientific method and like eradicating evil and spreading freedom and all the great things that we have all around the country.

00:55:38.000 Did you see the report from Project Veritas?

00:55:40.000 Oh, about the teacher?

00:55:41.000 The teacher in California who's got Mao on his wall.

00:55:45.000 I have 180 days to turn these kids into revolutionaries.

00:55:49.000 Yeah, I think this is one of Veritas' most important stories, to be honest, and it's like some random dopey dude, but this is important because, you know, a lot of us are familiar with the goings-on of Google because everyone's got their complaints.

00:56:00.000 The left says, oh, it's a monopoly that won't ban hate speech, and everyone's kind of focused on them and complaining, and the censorship stuff's overt.

00:56:07.000 But we keep hearing these stories about children being indoctrinated, and they say, oh, that's not happening, it's not happening.

00:56:11.000 Veritas then finds just one guy, one little old teacher, who comes out and says, here's my Antifa flag, here's my Mao poster, and I tell kids they're bad people if they disagree with me, and then they move further left every single year, and you're like, these people are real, and what you don't realize is the one guy they caught is like a cockroach.

00:56:30.000 You see one on the wall, you think, that means there's a thousand more behind it.

00:56:33.000 So for Veritas to expose the one guy is just the beginning.

00:56:36.000 There needs to be more exposure to this.

00:56:38.000 But man, I tweeted this out somewhat jokingly.

00:56:41.000 Your Twitter's all jokes.

00:56:43.000 It mostly is, but I said, imagine hating your kids so much you send them to college.

00:56:47.000 Right.

00:56:47.000 Because like, what happens to your kids when you send them to these institutionalized learning facilities?

00:56:51.000 Rotted.

00:56:52.000 They shave their heads and, you know, put on weird art clothes.

00:56:55.000 Rotted.

00:56:57.000 So I'm dealing with that right now.

00:56:59.000 My daughter is 16 years old.

00:57:00.000 She's looking at colleges.

00:57:01.000 She's a very successful active junior, straight A's, varsity athlete, can go any college she wants to in the country. 0.99

00:57:08.000 And she wants to go to some pretty powerful universities.

00:57:10.000 She wants to be a doctor, which is like one of the things that you can't do without doing the thing. 0.58

00:57:16.000 Unfortunately, I think you should be able to test into that.

00:57:18.000 You should be, but you can't right now.

00:57:20.000 Like if you want to be a stock trader, a tech guy, a programmer, a coder, a businessman, a philosopher, historian, whatever, you don't have to go to college to do that.

00:57:28.000 But to, but to be a doctor, you got to do that.

00:57:30.000 So, so I have, and I would do this ordinarily, but I am just prophylactically like just blasting her with as much information as I can.

00:57:39.000 So that by the time she does get there, that she will at least have a baseline for, to deal with this indoctrination.

00:57:46.000 Taught her about compound interest.

00:57:48.000 We haven't talked about compound interest just yet, but I certainly will do that right after this call.

00:57:53.000 But on the topic of the SIG with Antifa guy and the Project Veritas thing, you're absolutely right.

00:57:58.000 That is just the lowest hanging fruit that they were able to scoop up and to identify.

00:58:04.000 There have been reports all across the country.

00:58:05.000 We've got the woman making the kids swear, pledge allegiance to the queer flag in their classroom. 1.00

00:58:11.000 Pledge allegiance to the queers, she says. 1.00

00:58:13.000 This is on TikTok.

00:58:15.000 It's been widely disseminated.

00:58:16.000 It's not me being hateful or anything.

00:58:18.000 There is very clear evidence where people say, well, you know what?

00:58:22.000 It doesn't matter that the kids lost learning time and can read more poorly today compared to last year because we taught them what a riot was.

00:58:30.000 We taught them what an insurrection was.

00:58:32.000 We taught them what, you know, white systems of oppression are.

00:58:35.000 So all of these people, again, this goes back to exactly what the problem is in Afghanistan, aside from the competing military or monetary interests, is that the attention of our education apparatus is focused on the wrong thing.

00:58:47.000 The attention of our education apparatus is focused on making these kids into little revolutionaries that pledge allegiance to the queer flag, that don't care about reading and math, but they only care about learning about rioting and insurrections. 0.97

00:58:59.000 And that is what is happening.

00:59:01.000 So therefore, every other result is negative because the primary attention is put on the wrong people.

00:59:09.000 It's rot.

00:59:10.000 It is institutional rot.

00:59:13.000 It is the core foundations that make up the country and our culture are rotting and decaying.

00:59:18.000 Well, they're being poisoned.

00:59:21.000 They're not just rotting and decaying.

00:59:22.000 They're being poisoned.

00:59:23.000 They're being deliberately sabotaged.

00:59:26.000 Right.

00:59:26.000 We have saboteurs among us.

00:59:28.000 That teacher is a saboteur. 0.86

00:59:30.000 Right.

00:59:30.000 OK, public people argue with me, but go back to the source documents, folks.

00:59:34.000 The public education system in America was established to to create a sense of patriotism in America.

00:59:42.000 This teacher is being fired.

00:59:44.000 This has been, this was the latest update we have from Post Millennial.

00:59:47.000 Antifa teacher set to be fired by school after attempting to radicalize children.

00:59:52.000 Attempting?

00:59:52.000 Apparently he's been doing it for years.

00:59:53.000 Wow.

00:59:54.000 But I'll tell you about the- But did you see the t-shirt he was wearing when they confronted him?

00:59:58.000 Oh, when Veritas did?

00:59:59.000 What was it? 0.96

00:59:59.000 It was a freaking sickle! 0.96

01:00:01.000 He's got the tattoo, dude! 0.98

01:00:03.000 He was wearing a sickle t-shirt!

01:00:04.000 He's got a tattoo on his chest, bro.

01:00:05.000 Yeah, it's right there.

01:00:06.000 He's got a tattoo on his chest.

01:00:07.000 So, the institutional rot.

01:00:09.000 Let me tell you a story.

01:00:09.000 So, we at TimCast.com are hiring a bunch of fierce and independent journalists.

01:00:14.000 That's ten bucks I spend every month.

01:00:15.000 We're doing a great job, and we had a story about a truck full of Moderna vaccines crashing. 0.52

01:00:23.000 And there was limited information on it, and we thought it was a big deal.

01:00:27.000 And so Tim Kast, a reporter, started investigating to figure out what's going on with this truck.

01:00:32.000 And it's a crazy story.

01:00:34.000 So I tweeted like, you know, we ended up learning from the local emergency response in West Virginia where this happened, that the DOD took over and the locals were not allowed to give statements to the press.

01:00:44.000 And I said, wow.

01:00:46.000 Now, the truth is, the Department of Defense works with the HHS, and they have jurisdiction over vaccine shipments, so when it happened, they're like, hey, we're gonna be handling this.

01:00:55.000 So it's not like there was a grand conspiracy or anything, and I never said that.

01:00:58.000 I tweeted out something bad happened.

01:01:00.000 Truck crashes, carrying Moderna vaccine, airspace gets shut down, hazmat comes out, and now the DOD is taking over.

01:01:06.000 And I guess a lot of people immediately assume conspiracies, and what ends up happening is an article gets written claiming that I'm a conspiracy theorist, that I didn't accurately inform any of my followers about what really happened, even though I posted a link to the story.

01:01:20.000 Now, it's something I want to get off my chest and just mention because it was like an example of something affecting me, but I also think it's a good example of institutional rot.

01:01:28.000 That there is someone who knows my story was 100% true, 100% factual, and I never implied there was a grand conspiracy.

01:01:34.000 I genuinely was like, whoa, a vaccine truck flipped over.

01:01:36.000 This is crazy.

01:01:37.000 The DoD's on it?

01:01:37.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:01:39.000 We were worried, like, did they lose a shipment of vaccine?

01:01:42.000 Because they weren't telling us.

01:01:43.000 And then we got a statement saying, don't worry, we were able to recover all the vaccine.

01:01:45.000 I was like, oh, okay.

01:01:46.000 I wasn't implying that, like, aliens were coming or any crazy stuff.

01:01:49.000 But someone had to write about it. 0.76

01:01:51.000 And they had to twist it and frame it in such a ridiculous and absurd way. 0.88

01:01:55.000 That people who will read that will have their minds warped.

01:01:59.000 That is just one example I experienced recently, but I'm sure everybody knows the examples of how the media lies, cheats, and manipulates, like Shinzo Abe and Trump, when he throws the fish food in, they fake it, or the very fine people hoax.

01:02:09.000 And so what's happening now, and the reason why I think you see these schools focusing on the wrong thing, is it's the whole system of our institutions has been twisted and corrupted by an every, you know, by the most absurd and extreme hyper-individualism.

01:02:24.000 There's no national unity.

01:02:26.000 There's no sense of community.

01:02:27.000 There's no scruples.

01:02:29.000 This writer at this news outlet didn't say to himself, I can't write that.

01:02:32.000 That's not true.

01:02:33.000 He went, how can I twist this in the worst way possible to get some clicks?

01:02:37.000 Because I don't care about what happens to this country.

01:02:39.000 I don't care what happens to my community.

01:02:41.000 I don't care what happens to the people.

01:02:42.000 These schools bring these people in and these principals and these superintendents, the ones who haven't been truly indoctrinated, are like, I'm not going to stick my neck out when this teacher does this stuff because why should I put myself on the line for the sake of the future of this country, our children?

01:02:57.000 And what ends up happening then is over a decade of this happening, eventually the people running the institutions are in the cult and their minds are warped and twisted and then they seek out more of it.

01:03:07.000 The way I view this problem, the easiest way to understand it is to look up the YouTube video of Hitler with a woman's body doing Tai Chi with the Incredible Hulk where nursery rhymes are being sang. 0.72

01:03:18.000 Because this video exemplifies the broken, fractured, algorithmic dystopia that we're living in.

01:03:25.000 These videos were going viral.

01:03:26.000 People were making them because the algorithm was feeding them to babies.

01:03:30.000 That is something... So we as adults can see that video and say, this is insanity.

01:03:36.000 Why are children being fed this video?

01:03:38.000 Babies can't understand that because they have no frame of reference.

01:03:40.000 They just see this and that's life.

01:03:42.000 For the rest of us, spending 10 years going through the broken media ecosystem, the lies, the fake news, and the algorithmic manipulation, we can't tell Adults who live in it are the same as the babies being born into it.

01:03:56.000 We can see the one thing, because it's so crazy, we can't see the crazy in front of us.

01:04:00.000 Now, obviously, I think people watching the show, people like us, are initiated.

01:04:05.000 And what I mean by that is, we're discerning.

01:04:07.000 We see something and say, I want to challenge that.

01:04:09.000 And I want to see how that stands up to scrutiny.

01:04:12.000 Then you look at all these people who all of a sudden are, I tell you this man, you know,

01:04:17.000 breaks my heart is the hacker community going woke. Full on authoritarian dogma. And I'm like,

01:04:22.000 hackers were anti establishment, anti authoritarian, totally like agnostic. And now the whole it's just

01:04:29.000 becoming more and more woke. And I'm seeing people say, like, here's what you have to say,

01:04:32.000 here's what you can't say. And I'm like, we're changing the words of code. And it's just they

01:04:36.000 don't understand they're living in this fractured, rotted and broken collapsing system. They can't

01:04:42.000 see through it.

01:04:43.000 I agree.

01:04:44.000 I agree 100% on everything you said, especially that that really very descriptive phrase that you use, the algorithmic dystopia.

01:04:51.000 Right.

01:04:52.000 But there's a deeper fundamental issue here.

01:04:54.000 It goes even farther back than that.

01:04:56.000 And I just started to get into it a second ago about education.

01:04:59.000 When the founders created this country, they realized that liberty did not mean the freedom to do whatever you wanted.

01:05:06.000 It meant the freedom to do what you should do, what you ought to do to do the right thing.

01:05:12.000 And so they thought, okay, we're going to give people freedom.

01:05:16.000 So at the same time, we also need to teach them what they ought to do.

01:05:19.000 John Adams very clearly said that this constitutional republic that we have is only suited for highly virtuous moral and religious people.

01:05:27.000 They also said at the same time across every colony and every state constitution and in the federal papers and in the letters of all the founders they said we need to establish public schools in order to teach patriotism, virtue, morality, in order to create a people suitable for the government that we have created.

01:05:46.000 Fast forward to where we are today the education system say when you try to think that it should teach Patriotism or love of country you would get laughed out of the freaking room right or the idea that the people can just come in and teach communism and Marxism and anti-american hate and CRT and 1619 stuff in our public schools or the idea that we're gonna be a nation made up of a majority of atheists and I am not a Christian. I haven't been baptized. I'm very

01:06:14.000 sympathetic and I'm very interested and I'm reading the Bible and I understand its value. But at the

01:06:18.000 time of the founding, they didn't even conceive of the possibility of a widespread atheism. So the

01:06:24.000 country has been created in a way that required this, that, and the other guardrail,

01:06:31.000 institution, education, morality, religion, and they have all been wiped out.

01:06:36.000 And so what we're left with now is a constitution that promotes not just liberty to do what you ought, but freedom for licentiousness.

01:06:45.000 The easiest way I think for people to understand this is just to reference the replicators in Stargate SG-1.

01:06:51.000 When SG-1 created the Disruptor device, the replicators of course, the humanoid replicators, were made up of nanobots.

01:06:58.000 And the Disruptor device severed the communication between each nanobot within the greater replicator, causing it to disintegrate into a pile of metal shards.

01:07:05.000 Basically.

01:07:06.000 MacGyver's good.

01:07:07.000 I'm half kidding understanding it's probably very esoteric and I've been watching a lot

01:07:10.000 of Stargate lately.

01:07:11.000 But the point is, imagine you have the founding of this country.

01:07:15.000 It was a bunch of different colonies that didn't much get along in a lot of ways.

01:07:19.000 They fought a lot.

01:07:21.000 Right.

01:07:22.000 And had their own currencies.

01:07:23.000 And then the Constitution came about after the fact because there were a lot of issues

01:07:26.000 and a lot of smart people came together and said, yo, let's compromise and figure this

01:07:30.000 out together.

01:07:31.000 And boy, was that really amazing.

01:07:32.000 And then a shared story started to emerge.

01:07:34.000 And all of the different states eventually fought each other, because they were about to break apart.

01:07:40.000 Then there was the famous line from National Treasure, truly a great philosophical piece with Nicolas Cage where he said, before the Civil War, people would say, the United States are.

01:07:52.000 And after the Civil War, they would say, the United States is.

01:07:55.000 I don't know if that's true or not, but it's a good, it's a good way to understand that after this point, or at some point, people started to view each and every state as together and fighting for the common good and the same goals.

01:08:06.000 And someone from New York would be like, ah, those, you know, those country folk, but we're rallied together around a lot of common ideas.

01:08:13.000 Now we are very much like those nanobots being stripped apart.

01:08:17.000 The individuals no longer are forming a greater community.

01:08:22.000 No social cohesion.

01:08:25.000 Okay.

01:08:25.000 We have no social cohesion.

01:08:27.000 And up until the 1960s and seventies, it was very easy to maintain national cohesion because you had just a handful of people giving you the stories that you were supposed to listen to and believe.

01:08:37.000 You had Walter Cronkite sitting up there basically at a pulpit preaching to the entire country, telling people what to think, what to believe, what the feel, what stories to venerate, what heroes to have, what myths to entertain.

01:08:50.000 And then now with technology, and we're, we're as guilty of participant of anybody is that instead of one guy telling everybody what to think and creating social cohesion that way, we've got a million people talking to a million people with a million different stories.

01:09:06.000 And now we have no social cohesion because of it.

01:09:10.000 It's TV static.

01:09:10.000 And a big part of the static is if people were all telling real things, it would be a lot easier.

01:09:16.000 But it's the misinformation that's sewn in that's causing massive dissension and confusion and mistrust.

01:09:22.000 But it's not to say that up until the internet that there wasn't disinformation.

01:09:26.000 There was plenty of it.

01:09:27.000 It's just that we all suffered it at the same time.

01:09:30.000 So it created our own social cohesion in that way.

01:09:34.000 Right, right.

01:09:34.000 The newspaper would have to be vetted.

01:09:36.000 People would say, OK, this, we're double checking this, we're double checking this, everything.

01:09:39.000 But then, of course, it would be like, and there's weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 0.68

01:09:42.000 Right.

01:09:43.000 So they lied all the time.

01:09:44.000 And I think the reality for people is they just woke up to how bad the lies were.

01:09:48.000 Yes.

01:09:48.000 You know, there was a report.

01:09:49.000 I was in in Kiev during the Euromaidan stuff.

01:09:54.000 This is a new story for me, Tim.

01:09:55.000 That's right.

01:09:55.000 Let's go.

01:09:56.000 And I was on the ground with Vice and we were reporting on a protest when I think it was Channel 4 in the UK put out a story where this woman was narrating what was going on and she was incorrect.

01:10:07.000 And so I tweeted, hey, you guys are incorrect.

01:10:09.000 We're here on the ground reporting for Vice.

01:10:11.000 This is what's really happening.

01:10:12.000 And they basically just said, so.

01:10:15.000 They didn't care that what they reported was fake.

01:10:18.000 They just don't care.

01:10:20.000 You see, there are some people that have a yearning to understand and share the stories

01:10:27.000 they've learned, to share the information, and to just inform. Real journalists are like, here's what

01:10:34.000 happened, do what you will with it.

01:10:36.000 But we also have a lot of people who are just like, it's a job, I don't know,

01:10:39.000 they wanted me to read the script, I don't care what it says.

01:10:42.000 It just keeps making me think that better, of this term, better men.

01:10:44.000 A lot of times when you come around, Jack, because the Founding Fathers talked about how better men would run the country, basically.

01:10:50.000 And I feel like we're born plebes, and if our parents are better men, we have the opportunity to be fast-tracked to become a better man.

01:10:56.000 But otherwise, we just grow up as plebes. 0.98

01:10:59.000 The internet, obviously, you can study and research, but is it real that there's a tiny, tiny group of cogent, critical-thinking, better men, and that everyone else is just dumb animals? 0.99

01:11:10.000 Nope. 0.98

01:11:10.000 Kinda. 0.98

01:11:11.000 Like, are we cursed to live in this?

01:11:14.000 Here's a question for you guys.

01:11:15.000 Because I know you can transcend those.

01:11:19.000 Where are you more likely to find virtue?

01:11:22.000 In one man?

01:11:24.000 In a few men?

01:11:25.000 Or in all men?

01:11:30.000 One.

01:11:31.000 Ah!

01:11:31.000 So you're a monarchist.

01:11:33.000 I think that if you have a crowd of 100 people... Well, that's a hard question to answer.

01:11:38.000 Because there's a lot of ways to answer it.

01:11:40.000 This is the fundamental political philosophical question.

01:11:43.000 Right.

01:11:43.000 The odds that a bunch of people have the same virtue is not as likely.

01:11:47.000 Not the same.

01:11:48.000 There's no difference of virtues.

01:11:49.000 There's only virtues.

01:11:50.000 There's seven virtues, right?

01:11:51.000 Right.

01:11:51.000 There's virtue.

01:11:52.000 There's seven.

01:11:52.000 There's charity.

01:11:53.000 There's diligence.

01:11:54.000 There's courage, honor, loyalty.

01:11:56.000 Are these the Catholic virtues you're talking about?

01:11:58.000 Well, there's different ones.

01:11:59.000 There's ones that you can, there's spiritual ones.

01:12:01.000 And then there's ones that you can do in like sort of practical world, right?

01:12:04.000 Submission.

01:12:04.000 What's the right answer to that question?

01:12:06.000 Well, it depends.

01:12:07.000 Whatever your answer to that question is, is the form of government that you think is appropriate.

01:12:13.000 If we thought that there was virtue most likely to be found in the masses, then you would just go with a straight democracy.

01:12:19.000 But not even the founders of our country thought that.

01:12:21.000 They thought that the people would lead to tyranny.

01:12:24.000 They were right.

01:12:25.000 Democracy doesn't work.

01:12:26.000 I think it's much more sustainable to have a group of virtuous people than to have one.

01:12:29.000 Now we're down to representative, maybe republicanism, and maybe we can go to like aristocracy, oligarchy,

01:12:35.000 or we can go to monarchy.

01:12:36.000 I think it's much more sustainable to have a group of virtuous people than to have one.

01:12:40.000 Founding fathers.

01:12:41.000 With a virtuous document.

01:12:42.000 Founding fathers.

01:12:43.000 Yeah, they put the power on the paper.

01:12:45.000 They walked away from it.

01:12:46.000 They're like, you know, should we have a monarchy?

01:12:48.000 Just like, you know, a king?

01:12:49.000 And they're like, but then there are these problems.

01:12:51.000 Okay, what about like a council of elders?

01:12:52.000 What about these problems?

01:12:53.000 How about direct democracy?

01:12:55.000 Well, then you get this.

01:12:56.000 How about we do all three?

01:12:57.000 And they all yell at each other.

01:12:58.000 And they're like, that's actually pretty clever.

01:13:00.000 Right, right.

01:13:00.000 And I mean, it's very complicated when you lay it on top, especially the way that it was back then.

01:13:05.000 It's a little less complicated now because you actually vote for the senators or whatever.

01:13:08.000 But like the senators were supposed to be the House of Lords.

01:13:10.000 That's right.

01:13:11.000 They were supposed to be like the landed aristocracy, the oligarchy.

01:13:14.000 Well, kind of.

01:13:15.000 It was that you would vote for local representatives who would then appoint a senator to go and represent your state to the federal government.

01:13:22.000 And I actually think that was better.

01:13:23.000 Yeah.

01:13:24.000 Because it wasn't that they were the House of Lords, like in the UK, you're just a lord and you know, you're, you're, you know, then they have religious people who are appointed as well.

01:13:31.000 It was that I, you know, I'm sitting here in my little town and Jack Murphy says, vote for me for state representative.

01:13:39.000 And I'll make sure we get a good senator to go to the federal government. 0.80

01:13:41.000 I'm like, makes sense to me.

01:13:43.000 And then people paid attention to the local level.

01:13:45.000 By changing the senate elections, I think 17th amendment, is it 17th?

01:13:50.000 By changing it to a popular vote in the state, now people stopped caring about their local elections.

01:13:55.000 They slowly began to stop caring about local issues.

01:13:59.000 They started, you know, oh, I'll vote for this guy.

01:14:00.000 He'll take care of it.

01:14:01.000 And now you get the insane phenomenon of people running for Congress going, if you vote for me for Congress, I'm going to clean up this town.

01:14:09.000 No, you're not.

01:14:10.000 You're going to the federal government.

01:14:11.000 You're going to vote on wars and stuff.

01:14:12.000 You're moving to Georgetown, buddy.

01:14:16.000 Did you hear AOC talking to that group of people, like five people or something?

01:14:19.000 They're like, what are you going to do for me?

01:14:20.000 It was like a month old, but it was just really grating to see how she's been Separated from those people for now for a while.

01:14:27.000 They're sent to Washington to do Washington things.

01:14:29.000 They don't act.

01:14:30.000 Well, I would be much happier actually if the congressional representatives from state districts went to Congress and worried about federal issues.

01:14:40.000 The problem is that they go to Congress and they bring federal money back to their local district.

01:14:45.000 That's the actual problem.

01:14:46.000 It's supposed to be that you operate on the local level and it slowly moves up.

01:14:54.000 When you vote for someone for Congress, someone running for Congress should be like, if you vote for me, I'll vote to end wars.

01:14:59.000 I'll vote for lower taxes or things like that, or stronger borders for this country.

01:15:04.000 Instead, they're like, I'll make sure that the homeless problem in our state or in our town- I'll bring that Northrop Grumman factory here to our state, and I'll get that federal program and that federal thing.

01:15:16.000 But let's go back- And their bills never get out of committee, and then Nancy Pelosi comes in and says, you're just impeaching Trump, and they go, okay, Pelosi.

01:15:22.000 But let's go back to the first question, which is, where are you most likely to find a virtuous man or woman?

01:15:29.000 And I can hear Curtis Yarvin in my, in my ear telling me that we just need a monarchy or a Caesar.

01:15:35.000 A monk temple.

01:15:36.000 A monk temple.

01:15:37.000 A monastery.

01:15:38.000 Yes, a monastery.

01:15:39.000 Men above time.

01:15:40.000 This is a, this is, if you want to Google that, go for it.

01:15:42.000 But men above time are people that are separated and distant from the current daily goings ons and who can live a life of, of, of, uh, contemplation and philosophy and politics.

01:15:54.000 And, you know, there is some value to that.

01:15:58.000 And when you're distracted with the day-to-day material urges of the world, it's hard to be able to philosophize in such a way that's best for everyone without your own personal stuff getting in the way.

01:16:09.000 Honestly, I don't think any man can be virtuous by nature.

01:16:13.000 I think we're all corrupt and prone to corruption.

01:16:15.000 We all need to eat. 0.87

01:16:16.000 We all need to destroy life to consume it, to survive.

01:16:20.000 nastily corrupt from the beginning. 0.98

01:16:22.000 That's why they say humans are dirty. 0.99

01:16:24.000 Humans are sinful by nature. 0.97

01:16:24.000 How is it corrupt if that is nature? 0.97

01:16:26.000 Well, it's destructive.

01:16:28.000 It's vile.

01:16:30.000 It's considered evil to the creature being destroyed, you know.

01:16:33.000 I suppose.

01:16:34.000 It's terrifying to have to eviscerate an animal and drink its blood to survive.

01:16:38.000 But that's what humans are.

01:16:40.000 If you're not a predator, it's not terrifying.

01:16:41.000 It's the perfectly most natural.

01:16:42.000 But we are predators.

01:16:44.000 Ian, I think it's because you've been insulated.

01:16:47.000 You live in a bubble.

01:16:48.000 We all have.

01:16:49.000 I've been eating the flesh of the animals that I never saw killed.

01:16:52.000 Right.

01:16:53.000 Exactly.

01:16:53.000 So there's a lot of people who grow up in the countryside who, when they're little kids, their dad hands them a gun and says, you know, point it down, keep your finger off the trigger, and we're going to go hunt some turkeys.

01:17:01.000 And then they watch it happen.

01:17:03.000 That's by nature.

01:17:03.000 We're hunters, killers, you know.

01:17:05.000 Yes.

01:17:06.000 I remember watching this old science video where it shows talking about evolution and it was talking about like plankton and plant cellular life and then it was like and then one cell attacked another and it absorbed it and I was like and that was the beginning of predatation and stuff like that and I'm just like Yo, I mean, it's kind of crazy that there are plants, right, chilling, minding their own business, just doing their thing.

01:17:27.000 They're like, I'm gonna grow right here, because this is where I am.

01:17:30.000 And then they grow, and they're like, I get my energy from the carbon from the air, and the light from the sun, and I'm just minding my own business, building my own chemical structure, and then along comes some chicken.

01:17:42.000 And the chicken walks up and just goes round, rips it off.

01:17:45.000 That, that's so violent.

01:17:46.000 And that poor, innocent plant. 0.99

01:17:47.000 Well, yeah, that's life, right?

01:17:49.000 Are we going to sit here and be like, animals should stop eating plants because plants didn't do anything to anybody.

01:17:52.000 Or are we going to be like, we, you know, we eat plants and we eat animals.

01:17:55.000 Right.

01:17:55.000 That is life.

01:17:56.000 So knowing that, then we have to decide who's going to be in charge.

01:18:00.000 Is it going to be a human? 0.65

01:18:01.000 Cause they're vicious and they're hunters and they're killers and they need to survive. 0.99

01:18:04.000 They need to kill to eat. 0.97

01:18:05.000 Do you want that person lording over you and your family? 0.99

01:18:08.000 Yes, because they understand how I survived.

01:18:10.000 Thank you very much.

01:18:11.000 But they don't even know who you are in this country.

01:18:14.000 That's the problem.

01:18:14.000 This is the problem.

01:18:16.000 It used, I think, you know, I think it was you said the family is communist, right?

01:18:19.000 Or you were quoting somebody?

01:18:20.000 Yeah, I was quoting Taleb on that.

01:18:22.000 Right, it's a really great idea to say that at the smallest levels, leftism is perfect, and then as you scale up, it just makes no sense as it gets bigger and bigger.

01:18:32.000 It's idealistic, it's utopian, and it'd be fantastic, but once you have different, you know, cities that have different interests and different needs, there's gonna be conflict because people don't want to die.

01:18:42.000 So I'll put it this way.

01:18:43.000 You hear these stories about, you know, a shark attacking a swimmer, and they're usually like, either the shark was confused or desperate.

01:18:48.000 There was a, you know, we had Daniel Turner here and he was talking about how the foxes have been going after his chickens.

01:18:54.000 And he was like, normally they won't do it.

01:18:56.000 Now they are.

01:18:56.000 And I'm like, they're getting desperate.

01:18:58.000 The foxes don't want to go near your house.

01:19:00.000 They're scared of your house.

01:19:01.000 But when they have nothing left to lose, they have to make, they have to do something.

01:19:04.000 Humans have similar situations.

01:19:07.000 Where our country says, we have low food stores, we have low energy, we have low of this material that we need for our people, we're getting desperate.

01:19:14.000 What do we do?

01:19:15.000 And if they can't get it from anybody else, war breaks out.

01:19:17.000 Just like animals fighting.

01:19:20.000 I agree with that.

01:19:20.000 Resource competition has been a driver of conflict for a long time.

01:19:24.000 But in the United States, the conflict driver is our factions, and our different factions come from our different faculties.

01:19:31.000 Inside the United States?

01:19:32.000 Inside the United States, yeah.

01:19:34.000 So ideology is...

01:19:36.000 I think for the most part, unique to humans, although we have seen tribal warfare among some lower primates.

01:19:43.000 Oh yeah, big time.

01:19:44.000 Higher primates like, you know.

01:19:45.000 Apes.

01:19:45.000 Yeah, they fought each other.

01:19:48.000 And that might be a very, very rudimentary ideology, but I don't think comes close to what ideology actually is meant to represent.

01:19:55.000 Humans are literally going to be standing there and someone's going to be like, I think Marx was right. 0.99

01:20:00.000 And then someone else is going to be like, you're nuts. 0.95

01:20:02.000 And then he's going to pull out, you know, his, his, you know, stone. 0.95

01:20:05.000 But even before we get to competing ideologies within our own ideological system, there is inherent competition based on the varying faculties of men.

01:20:14.000 And by that, I mean, each individual man has different capabilities, different interests, different ways that they can get things accomplished in the world.

01:20:22.000 And so therefore they're going to have rooted interests in their faculties.

01:20:26.000 And because we have different IQs and different capabilities and people are taller and shorter and stronger, more inclined to economics or real estate or agriculture or whatever.

01:20:36.000 As those people gain power, then their interests become factions and those factions become competitive within the United States.

01:20:43.000 And that's one of the reasons why Madison wanted us to have such a wide ranging expanse of a republic so that there wouldn't be a dominant faction within the United States.

01:20:53.000 But then Woodrow Wilson basically legalized the faction of Rockefeller and J.P.

01:20:59.000 Morgan, Federal Reserve, Military Industrial Complex.

01:21:01.000 They built the school system.

01:21:03.000 That's basically a faction.

01:21:04.000 Don't say the school system.

01:21:05.000 Again, the school system was founded at the time of the founding for the purpose of creating patriotic fervor in the United States.

01:21:12.000 You're saying the schools were created to indoctrinate kids?

01:21:15.000 Yes.

01:21:16.000 In American love of America.

01:21:19.000 That's right.

01:21:19.000 But from what I've learned, and I've never gone too deep.

01:21:21.000 And that's not what you, you, I, I, you, Tim, we're friends, so I can say this, but you say that so smugly to irritate me because you're making a point.

01:21:29.000 It's sarcasm.

01:21:30.000 It's sarcasm.

01:21:31.000 I'm not trying to irritate you.

01:21:32.000 I'm trying to, I'm trying to flip the perspective on what it means to do this.

01:21:35.000 But you're saying like, oh, it's to indoctrinate kids into loving America.

01:21:39.000 I know you're just making a point.

01:21:41.000 Yes!

01:21:41.000 That's exactly the point!

01:21:43.000 And we need that!

01:21:46.000 The reason I bring this up is that, you know, I've been mentioning a lot that principle isn't necessarily the issue, it's often the subject or the specific ideology, and that's why you might see a lot of people who are immediately called hypocrites.

01:21:59.000 If you say, the indoctrination in schools is bad, Correct.

01:22:02.000 Indeed.

01:22:02.000 you're like, well, the schools are supposed to indoctrinate people, but

01:22:04.000 towards what I want.

01:22:05.000 And then they say, well, the school should indoctrinate people towards what I

01:22:07.000 want.

01:22:07.000 And that's where the clash happens.

01:22:09.000 You're both fighting over the ideology.

01:22:11.000 Culture crash in 1903, Rockefeller founded the general education board, which

01:22:16.000 provided major funding for schools across the country.

01:22:18.000 And so basically this, his faction.

01:22:20.000 Okay.

01:22:21.000 Cool.

01:22:21.000 Okay.

01:22:21.000 But that's 140 years after, or even more than that, after the establishment of

01:22:27.000 public schools for the purpose of creating patriotic citizens, we're familiar with

01:22:31.000 virtues in Republican government.

01:22:33.000 Well, I guess it's more about he amalgamated his... No, he stole it.

01:22:36.000 He stole it.

01:22:36.000 His like, when the bell rings, you get up, you have to go to class, or you'll be penalized, like show up, take the test, on top of the whole moral thing.

01:22:46.000 This is a good distinction, because I make this argument on Twitter often, and people are like, no, it was industrial people, and they wanted to train you to work in factories, and whatever, whatever.

01:22:55.000 Fine, that may have happened later, but public schools are designed to build patriots that function well in our patriotic system.

01:23:03.000 Period.

01:23:03.000 That was the goal.

01:23:04.000 They wanted social cohesion.

01:23:05.000 Yes.

01:23:06.000 When the kids are all brought up on this.

01:23:08.000 Because this government needs, I'm sorry, this government needs a particular kind of person.

01:23:12.000 Well, so this is what happens when you have 13 colonies and they don't really agree with each other on a lot other than independence.

01:23:19.000 And they need to, they're saying to themselves, we need to plant a tree whose shade we know we will never sit beneath.

01:23:24.000 That is, raise our children to understand the values that we have set forth and why it's a good thing.

01:23:29.000 And everyone growing up should understand what, you know, blood and treasure was sacrificed for this independence.

01:23:35.000 Man, you mentioned blood and treasure.

01:23:37.000 Holy cow. 0.89

01:23:39.000 Abraham Lincoln said that if you violate the law, you disrespect the blood shed by your forefathers.

01:23:44.000 I don't agree with that.

01:23:46.000 Not all laws are good.

01:23:48.000 Law does not equal virtue.

01:23:49.000 The Constitution, let's say.

01:23:51.000 Okay, he didn't say that though, right?

01:23:53.000 He violated it.

01:23:55.000 He specifically was talking about just law in general and love of country.

01:23:58.000 He was a lawyer and he did have to do that.

01:24:00.000 He had to become an autocrat to keep the union together. 0.68

01:24:03.000 Yeah, but the point is is that we here right now are having this conversation because people that came before us sacrificed their lives, their sons, their treasure, their wives, their family, their homes, all of it.

01:24:16.000 And to disrespect the law that they created, the country that they created after that is to disrespect them.

01:24:22.000 And that is what his foundation of political religion was, which was the idea that he had that he wanted to animate the country with political religion, a love of country, a love of the Constitution, a respect for the people that died for it.

01:24:37.000 Because as time goes on, you forget.

01:24:40.000 He made address to this thing called the Lyceum.

01:24:43.000 I want to say it was around like 1830 or 1840.

01:24:45.000 And at that time he identified the fact that it had been sufficient enough time that all of the actual founding fathers were dead.

01:24:55.000 And all the revolutionaries were dead and all the guys who lost sons and families and fathers, they were all dead.

01:25:01.000 So by 1840, 1850, nobody remembered the fact that all these people died for what we've got.

01:25:08.000 I saw an interesting tweet from Michael Malice.

01:25:10.000 Man, we shout this guy out.

01:25:11.000 Who's Michael Malice?

01:25:12.000 He's a comedian.

01:25:13.000 He's a writer.

01:25:14.000 Really funny guy.

01:25:15.000 But it's just really good.

01:25:16.000 And, uh, it was, it was, it was an idea, an idea he tweeted out.

01:25:20.000 And then I just elaborate, elaborated upon that by, by, by mere virtue of your existence proves that victory is not only possible, but that it's already happened before.

01:25:31.000 Yeah.

01:25:31.000 It seems like that.

01:25:32.000 Oh, and, and, and so, so that's something I, yeah.

01:25:35.000 And then basing it off of what he was tweeting.

01:25:36.000 And what I mean by that is.

01:25:39.000 There's been so much evil in this world.

01:25:41.000 The rise of communism, the dictators, the murderers, the Nazis, the fascists, and here we sit today, doing a show about American values, freedom, and liberty, which proves not only have we won in the past, but here we are able to continue this, which means victory is not only possible, but it already happens.

01:25:58.000 Dude, we constantly do things that are challenging and hard.

01:26:01.000 Like, I tweeted out, I think yesterday, if you only ever did what was easy for you, you would've just laid there.

01:26:06.000 You never would have gotten, you would have laid there until you died.

01:26:08.000 Like, we're always struggling to learn how to do something new and to change our environment.

01:26:14.000 That's ultimately what we're tools for.

01:26:16.000 I love this quote.

01:26:18.000 It's like, of course the shortcut is hard.

01:26:21.000 If it was easy, it would just be the way.

01:26:24.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:24.000 So it's like everything we're doing, if we're doing the easiest thing imaginable, it's not challenging, it's just the normal.

01:26:33.000 But for all of us that are fighting for something, that believe in something, that are challenging something, of course it's hard.

01:26:39.000 It has to be.

01:26:40.000 But definitely possible, that's the point.

01:26:43.000 I'm not saying impossible, I'm saying hard.

01:26:44.000 These things that seem insurmountable, I think it's because we're looking at big picture a lot of times, like CRT, and everyone's like, I don't know, where do you even begin?

01:26:50.000 But when you break it down to like the local level, and then you see like teachers union, or a group of teachers are revolting, or this guy's getting removed, this teacher's getting removed for Good thing to see that that guy wearing the sickle who's got the Antifa and the Black Lives Matter and all that communist stuff who says he's got 180 days to turn the kids into revolutionaries, he's getting fired.

01:27:11.000 The woman that said pledge allegiance to the queers, she's getting fired. 1.00

01:27:14.000 Pressure.

01:27:15.000 That's an offensive statement.

01:27:17.000 It is a very offensive statement.

01:27:18.000 To everybody.

01:27:19.000 To everybody and anyone.

01:27:22.000 Look, standing for the pledge of allegiance in school right now is not super cool depending on where you live.

01:27:26.000 My son told me a story about he's literally the only one in his class who stands every morning and recites the pledge.

01:27:32.000 Wow.

01:27:32.000 Everyone else just sits there.

01:27:33.000 I was the only kid not doing that when I was little.

01:27:34.000 Right?

01:27:35.000 Because that was kind of the cool thing to do.

01:27:37.000 But you know what?

01:27:37.000 Now the rebellious thing to do is to stand up and say, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation divided.

01:27:44.000 Is it under God?

01:27:45.000 One nation divided?

01:27:46.000 One nation united under God.

01:27:48.000 I can't remember.

01:27:49.000 Indivisible.

01:27:49.000 I'm kind of weirded out by the God thing in America.

01:27:52.000 It was added in the 50s, wasn't it?

01:27:53.000 It was added in the 50s, yeah.

01:27:53.000 The under God and on the Constitution your rights are from God.

01:27:56.000 I'm like, that's just... Why are you weirded out by it?

01:27:58.000 It's literally in the Declaration of Independence upon which this government was founded.

01:28:03.000 Because I think, well, we talked about this before, I wish you were here when we had the first time, that our rights are just, we just earned them through warfare.

01:28:09.000 We took them by force.

01:28:10.000 No, they're given to you by God.

01:28:11.000 That's what they, some magic thing they wrote in there to be like, and if anyone ever messes with you, just say you can never, and it's like, no, this didn't exist before you created it.

01:28:20.000 What do you mean it didn't exist before?

01:28:22.000 We talked about this.

01:28:22.000 You don't understand what right means.

01:28:25.000 The government infringing upon your rights doesn't mean you don't have rights.

01:28:28.000 It means the government is infringing upon them.

01:28:31.000 Yeah, I think the idea that you have a right to anything in this reality is absurd.

01:28:36.000 Are you born with the right to defend yourself?

01:28:39.000 I mean, I have, I'm born with the ability.

01:28:41.000 No, technically no.

01:28:43.000 Cause you're a baby with no abilities.

01:28:44.000 You just lay there.

01:28:45.000 That's an ability, but not a right.

01:28:46.000 I have no rights as a, as a small infant, you have no right.

01:28:50.000 Perceive yourself in the state of nature with no government around you.

01:28:54.000 And there's people, there's people around you and you're all around you.

01:28:57.000 Does anybody, would anybody look at you and say to you, sir, that you don't have the right to defend yourself?

01:29:03.000 Well, I mean, if I've done something wrong, I'm... No, the answer is no.

01:29:07.000 I think in a society, that word right might not even exist.

01:29:10.000 Don't even use the word society.

01:29:11.000 Just imagine a bunch of dudes in anarchy.

01:29:14.000 Yeah, they would probably fight.

01:29:16.000 But would they look at you and be like, you have the right to defend yourself?

01:29:19.000 No, I don't think that word would even enter that lexicon into a mind of barbarians.

01:29:23.000 So Ian, if you're standing in the middle of the woods and some guy runs up screaming with a pointy stick, would you just go, oh well, guess I'll die?

01:29:30.000 I'm not saying because these things might... I'm not saying that they're not good things.

01:29:35.000 These ideas are great.

01:29:36.000 But the fact that they're given from God.

01:29:38.000 Okay, what was your question again?

01:29:39.000 If you're standing in the middle of the woods and a guy's running at you screaming with a stick, would you go, I have no right to defend myself? 0.99

01:29:43.000 No, I would jujitsu his ass and put my knee on the back of his neck. 1.00

01:29:45.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 1.00

01:29:46.000 You have no right to do that.

01:29:47.000 Hey, I get to answer your question however I want.

01:29:48.000 Good, you have a right to do that.

01:29:50.000 You have no right to do that.

01:29:51.000 Neither of us have a right.

01:29:52.000 We just did it.

01:29:53.000 Oh, no, I have the ability.

01:29:55.000 It's not a right.

01:29:56.000 What is this right?

01:29:56.000 What does it even mean?

01:29:59.000 What do you mean?

01:30:01.000 Bro, you're making semantic arguments that have nothing to do with- I'm being very literal.

01:30:05.000 Legal rights?

01:30:06.000 No, we're not talking about legal rights.

01:30:07.000 We're talking about natural rights.

01:30:08.000 Natural rights? 0.93

01:30:09.000 Natural?

01:30:10.000 Like, in other countries, they aren't natural.

01:30:12.000 That's the point.

01:30:13.000 Well, it's because they're also monotheistic.

01:30:15.000 Some of them are pagan.

01:30:15.000 Some of them are different kinds.

01:30:16.000 But that doesn't mean they're wrong.

01:30:17.000 It just means it's a different view of what is natural.

01:30:22.000 In order to live, you must defend yourself.

01:30:27.000 If you can't live, then you don't exist.

01:30:31.000 You have a right to defend yourself.

01:30:34.000 That's the first most fundamental right that you have.

01:30:36.000 A right is a legal, social, or ethical principle of freedom or entitlement.

01:30:41.000 Ethical.

01:30:41.000 Rights are fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory.

01:30:48.000 Rights are of essential importance in such disciplines as law and ethics, especially theories of justice and deontology.

01:30:55.000 They're different everywhere.

01:30:56.000 Every country is different.

01:30:57.000 Every ethical form has a different set of rights.

01:31:00.000 So we're back to our original discussion, which is that monotheistic gods gave us natural law and natural rights, which gave us the United States of America.

01:31:08.000 That's why it's not universally applicable, because there's other countries around the world and other places and other people that don't have the same perception of God and don't have the same perception of life.

01:31:16.000 It's really simple.

01:31:16.000 Again, Ian, you're confusing infringement with existence of rights.

01:31:22.000 Please clarify that, please.

01:31:23.000 You're arguing that because someone with power would suppress your rights, your rights don't exist.

01:31:27.000 That's not true.

01:31:30.000 No, no.

01:31:31.000 If you're captured in war, you can physically defend yourself from your captors, even though they will beat you and try and stop you.

01:31:39.000 And they will tie your hands behind your back and continue beating you, and you can still resist.

01:31:44.000 You have a right.

01:31:45.000 No, you have the ability to do it.

01:31:46.000 It doesn't give you the right.

01:31:48.000 That doesn't exist in a POW camp.

01:31:50.000 Yes, it literally does.

01:31:51.000 There are no rights in a POW camp.

01:31:53.000 Yes, there are.

01:31:53.000 You're just there.

01:31:54.000 You don't understand what a right is.

01:31:56.000 You're confusing infringement.

01:31:57.000 If you're like, you're violating my human right, my basic human... They're like, what?

01:32:00.000 Who is this?

01:32:01.000 What is this thing?

01:32:02.000 And they're beating you with a cane.

01:32:02.000 So again, you're talking about the infringement of rights versus the existence of rights.

01:32:06.000 But they don't understand.

01:32:07.000 That person doesn't...

01:32:09.000 It doesn't exist to them.

01:32:10.000 So it's like, for you to say, because I believe it, it is real for you too, even though you don't understand it.

01:32:15.000 Now, if you attack the soldier keeping you there, will he defend himself?

01:32:20.000 Likely.

01:32:21.000 But he has no right to do that!

01:32:22.000 No, but he has the ability to and probably should to preserve his own skin.

01:32:25.000 Of course he has the right to defend himself.

01:32:27.000 He has the... I mean, okay, now we're just talking about rights and abilities.

01:32:31.000 Rights are legal things.

01:32:32.000 Ian, you do this all the time.

01:32:33.000 You make semantic arguments.

01:32:34.000 You just said that rights are legal things!

01:32:36.000 No, natural rights.

01:32:38.000 Legal, social, or ethical assumptions, basically.

01:32:40.000 Natural rights come from natural law, which comes from God.

01:32:43.000 And you do this a lot when you lose an argument.

01:32:45.000 You make a semantic change to the argument.

01:32:46.000 I don't think there's going to be a winner or loser to this.

01:32:48.000 We're just talking about it.

01:32:49.000 But rights literally do exist.

01:32:51.000 There's like the golden rule.

01:32:52.000 There's certain rules that transcend all civilizations.

01:32:55.000 Yeah, but the golden rule only works in certain types of civilizations.

01:32:59.000 It doesn't work if everyone's cheating.

01:33:01.000 So there are bad people, there are good people, there are an infringement of rights, and rights exist regardless of whether someone tries to suppress them.

01:33:08.000 I don't agree with that.

01:33:09.000 I think that rights only exist because we tell ourselves they exist.

01:33:13.000 So, Ian, I think you actually have a point, but I wanted to read to you a little bit about natural law.

01:33:18.000 Because natural law is an idea in, sorry, it's a theory in ethics and philosophy that says that human beings possess intrinsic values that govern our reasoning and behavior.

01:33:27.000 And this is something that is understood to exist in almost every single human civilization.

01:33:31.000 These are overarching ideas.

01:33:33.000 This is like the understanding that murder is wrong.

01:33:35.000 It's like the understanding that marriage is a societal good.

01:33:38.000 Not true in every society, but commonly understood in most of them.

01:33:42.000 So this ties directly into the idea of rights as being something understood, governed by natural law.

01:33:48.000 So you should look at like natural rights as they grow out of natural law.

01:33:52.000 It's something that is over most society, not strictly like we use in our Judeo-Christian society here.

01:33:59.000 I think, I think Jack put it.

01:34:01.000 I think Jack put it well about what you need to be able to do in order to survive and function, which is a natural right.

01:34:07.000 They've essentially codified that into a structure.

01:34:09.000 That was kind of the Ten Commandments, is what he was doing.

01:34:11.000 Like, if you follow these, you'll probably survive for a long time, and so will our species.

01:34:15.000 And so then the Americans were like, okay, let's make a government out of that and tell everyone these are, like, uncorruptible parts of you.

01:34:22.000 And if we believe that, then they become it.

01:34:26.000 But only because the government by gun forces is commanding that is that able to exist.

01:34:30.000 If you're in the middle of the woods and you're buck naked, you can speak freely.

01:34:33.000 You can move freely.

01:34:34.000 You can defend yourself.

01:34:35.000 No one can stop you.

01:34:36.000 Yeah, but there's no law though.

01:34:37.000 There's no rights in the government.

01:34:39.000 The law is to restrict the government, not people.

01:34:42.000 How many times do we have to say that?

01:34:44.000 You mean the Bill of Rights or the Constitution?

01:34:45.000 But all the law in America is to restrict, well, yes, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the idea of natural law, whatever.

01:34:51.000 This is to restrict the government from infringing upon the rights that you have innately.

01:34:57.000 That's what they tell you.

01:34:58.000 That's my argument is that I don't think innate, I don't think people innately have any right to anything.

01:35:03.000 We just, we were fortunate to be born into a society where we believe we do.

01:35:06.000 So you're just a total will to power guy. 0.78

01:35:08.000 I mean, if you were thrown, if we were thrown into the jungle alone, naked, What the hell?

01:35:14.000 There is no natural right.

01:35:15.000 What are you talking about?

01:35:16.000 We just survive.

01:35:18.000 Yeah.

01:35:18.000 So you can defend yourself from predators.

01:35:20.000 You can say whatever you want.

01:35:21.000 I have a right to it.

01:35:22.000 It's because what the hell I'm doing it.

01:35:24.000 In order to exist as a human being, you have to defend yourself.

01:35:28.000 Yeah, that's for real.

01:35:30.000 That's what we're talking about.

01:35:32.000 If you don't think the right exists, that means you would just lay down whenever threatened.

01:35:36.000 No, calling it a law and saying it's like... Who said law?

01:35:41.000 You just said if you don't think the law exists.

01:35:42.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:35:43.000 If you don't think rights exist, then you would just lay down and die whenever you were attacked by a predator.

01:35:47.000 Saying that defending yourself, the act of defending yourself means that you enacted a right, I think is fallacy.

01:35:53.000 Just because you defend yourself doesn't mean you're enacting any kind of human right.

01:35:56.000 Exerting.

01:35:57.000 You're literally exercising your right when you defend yourself.

01:36:00.000 No, you're defending yourself.

01:36:03.000 I mean, in the United States, you would be exercising your right.

01:36:05.000 In a country where you're not allowed to defend yourself, like North Korea?

01:36:07.000 Okay, we're done.

01:36:08.000 We're done because you're just arguing semantics.

01:36:09.000 Well, we have yet to begin, Tim, because in North Korea, you don't have the right to defend yourself against the North Korean guy. 0.88

01:36:15.000 Yes, you do!

01:36:15.000 They just beat you and infringe on your right to defend yourself.

01:36:18.000 There's no rights there!

01:36:18.000 They don't have rights.

01:36:19.000 They don't have human rights.

01:36:20.000 So this is what they're saying.

01:36:21.000 When they say that the rights are given by God, this means that the government should not ever infringe your right to defend yourself.

01:36:28.000 Ever, ever, ever.

01:36:29.000 This is what the Founding Fathers meant.

01:36:31.000 The Constitution says the government can't do that.

01:36:33.000 But other governments do that.

01:36:35.000 But a human being, in any circumstance when threatened, has the right to defend itself, as does every other creature on the planet when threatened.

01:36:42.000 Just because a bear can hold down the fox and the fox is struggling, doesn't mean the fox doesn't have the right to defend itself.

01:36:48.000 It doesn't have the right.

01:36:49.000 You don't know what the words mean, okay?

01:36:51.000 Let's just go to Super Chats.

01:36:52.000 Yeah, maybe I don't.

01:36:54.000 Because we defined it.

01:36:55.000 First-time, long-time listener, first-time caller, here's $10.

01:36:59.000 Can I have your attention now?

01:37:00.000 Are you telling me God gave you the power?

01:37:02.000 Yes.

01:37:03.000 You're saying God gave you the power, Jack? 0.99

01:37:04.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

01:37:05.000 To defend yourself? 0.99

01:37:06.000 Ian.

01:37:06.000 Yeah, you think God did that?

01:37:08.000 There are fundamental base truths That we understand very simply.

01:37:13.000 And what I mean is, obviously we can get into the nuance and complexities of how glass shatters.

01:37:18.000 But typically, when you throw a rock at a window, it breaks.

01:37:20.000 There's nuance there, I understand that.

01:37:21.000 Typically, a bear, when hungry, will eat something to feed itself.

01:37:25.000 There are basic things we understand to be true.

01:37:28.000 There are rules as to how they define what life is, and there are basic functions as to how that life propagates.

01:37:35.000 In fact, there are some plants that defend themselves.

01:37:38.000 Because if you have no right to self-defense, meaning a fundamental Entitlement to your ability to stay alive, then you would cease to exist because your lineage, your DNA would just collapse.

01:37:51.000 Meaning everything that exists today exists because it had a right to survival.

01:37:56.000 No, that's not what we didn't have rights before.

01:37:59.000 You know, we invented them.

01:38:01.000 Things survived and propagated because you're talking about like parameciums in the tide pool.

01:38:05.000 They didn't have rights.

01:38:06.000 They didn't have a basic paramecium rights.

01:38:08.000 They just survived.

01:38:09.000 The ones that ate the food survived and the ones that didn't dead.

01:38:13.000 So the point is arising from the fact that everything that survived fought for its survival, we recognize a fundamental naturally occurring entitlement existing within life forms to try to stay alive.

01:38:26.000 Right?

01:38:27.000 No, that's so circuitous.

01:38:28.000 A natural entitlement to try to survive.

01:38:30.000 This is what you're doing.

01:38:31.000 What are you talking about?

01:38:32.000 A natural entitlement to try to survive.

01:38:34.000 No, you have a, because you don't know what the words mean.

01:38:35.000 You have to try to survive.

01:38:36.000 That's it.

01:38:37.000 You're not entitled to it.

01:38:38.000 Good to see some things never change around here.

01:38:43.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats.

01:38:44.000 Yes, we are.

01:38:45.000 But if you can't agree on a definition of a word... That's the point.

01:38:48.000 We can't agree on the definition.

01:38:48.000 We gotta agree on the definition first.

01:38:49.000 Because you're making it up, and I just read it to you.

01:38:51.000 Well, you gave me like a long, three-part definition, firstly.

01:38:54.000 Because you don't... Ian, if you're not smart enough to know words, and I can't even read you the definition, how do we have a conversation?

01:39:00.000 Look, everybody... Firstly, everybody can make mistakes.

01:39:03.000 You made a mistake earlier when you said a word that wasn't the right word.

01:39:05.000 Sure.

01:39:06.000 And we haven't even yet to agree on what this word means.

01:39:09.000 Let me just... I'm gonna end this conversation very simply.

01:39:11.000 Jack and I say, here's a right.

01:39:13.000 You say rights don't exist.

01:39:14.000 I say, okay Ian, let's try and figure- Stop!

01:39:16.000 Let's try and figure out what rights means.

01:39:18.000 Here's the definition of a right.

01:39:19.000 And you say, well that's wrong, and I refuse to accept- Okay, you don't want to be wrong- That's not what happened!

01:39:23.000 And you just told me the definition was too long- No, I didn't say rights don't exist! 0.99

01:39:27.000 I said that the idea that God gives you basic, intrinsic rights is idiotic. 0.99

01:39:32.000 It's fantasy, and that's why people are erupting against it right now. 0.99

01:39:35.000 Because you don't know what the word means.

01:39:39.000 A right.

01:39:39.000 It's a basic- A fundamental, naturally- natural rights.

01:39:43.000 A fundamental, naturally occurring entitlement intrinsic within life.

01:39:47.000 This is something you just created.

01:39:48.000 I literally just read it to you.

01:39:49.000 But you just said that it had to do with ethics.

01:39:54.000 It said rights exist very prominently within legal and ethical theories.

01:39:57.000 And another one.

01:39:58.000 Ethical, social, and legal theories, I think.

01:40:01.000 This is some of the best whiskey I have ever had.

01:40:03.000 Can I put this on the camera?

01:40:05.000 Are we allowed to do that?

01:40:08.000 Look at this.

01:40:09.000 This is some of the best stuff I've ever had.

01:40:11.000 Thank you so much.

01:40:12.000 I appreciate that.

01:40:13.000 I'm glad you're here.

01:40:13.000 If you really enjoyed all that, smash the like button, subscribe, because we're going to have a member segment coming up later, but we should read super chats because we went long.

01:40:21.000 Oh, boy.

01:40:22.000 All right.

01:40:22.000 Let's see.

01:40:23.000 Let's see.

01:40:23.000 Where are we?

01:40:23.000 Where are we at?

01:40:24.000 Ian making me cross.

01:40:25.000 You guys ready for an even more contentious argument?

01:40:28.000 Oh, God.

01:40:29.000 The Loopworm Gamer says, on one of your earlier segments, you said women shouldn't be forced by anyone to carry another human being because of their freedom, not morality.

01:40:37.000 But doesn't any parent have the obligation to stop their child from dying in their care?

01:40:42.000 Yes, the issue of pro-life versus pro-choice is very, very difficult, and there is no middle ground.

01:40:48.000 There's literally none.

01:40:49.000 You're dealing with two independent life forms that have fundamental rights, and the problem is, where does the government intervene?

01:40:56.000 But I will say this.

01:40:58.000 The point I was making is, I'm worried about setting precedent for the government to decide when they're allowed to intervene in someone's medical decisions and when that person is required to provide their own body to someone else.

01:41:09.000 It's very, very difficult to parse this because there's a baby that's alive that I believe life begins at conception.

01:41:15.000 But I will just say something very simple.

01:41:17.000 It's okay, because if you're pro-life, we can actually have a discussion on how we compromise on this, and I being pro-choice.

01:41:24.000 As CBS News described it, the left is pro-abortion.

01:41:27.000 No joke.

01:41:28.000 CBS News said the pro-abortion groups, they're not talking about choice.

01:41:32.000 They're talking about people who quite literally say you have no right to choose your medication when it comes to vaccine mandates, but the government should absolutely have an open door on all abortions up until the point of birth in some places.

01:41:44.000 No joke.

01:41:45.000 In Virginia, for instance, that's where they were pushing that.

01:41:47.000 So if we're gonna sit here and discuss like, okay, we think abortion is wrong, but there's a fundamental question of government intervention.

01:41:52.000 Okay, that I think we can really disagree on.

01:41:55.000 But then you have this other group that's so far left, I need binoculars to see them, saying outright, you have no right to medical autonomy.

01:42:03.000 If the government mandates you get medicated, you go and do it and shut up.

01:42:06.000 And by all means, terminate your pregnancy. 0.97

01:42:08.000 That's not choice.

01:42:09.000 Just pro-abortion. 0.99

01:42:12.000 Heavy, heavy, heavy.

01:42:13.000 Uh, I have grown to become pro-life over time.

01:42:18.000 I have been presented.

01:42:20.000 Well, I'm not going to say that personal stuff.

01:42:22.000 Uh, let's just say, uh, I came to understand that my personal position was pro-life through experience.

01:42:29.000 Well, so what does that, what does that mean?

01:42:30.000 Right?

01:42:31.000 Here's, here's one of the biggest challenges with the pro-life and pro-choice stuff is.

01:42:34.000 What does it mean?

01:42:35.000 It means, it means, I hope my kids aren't watching.

01:42:40.000 They are.

01:42:41.000 It means that there was a time in my life where that came up as an option.

01:42:47.000 And my heart said, absolutely not.

01:42:50.000 No way.

01:42:52.000 Period.

01:42:53.000 And I've come to understand that, you know, it's separate DNA.

01:42:56.000 It's a separate human.

01:42:57.000 It's a beating heart, man.

01:42:59.000 That's true.

01:42:59.000 You think it's a human before it has a brain?

01:43:01.000 How can it be not a human if it's got DNA and a beating heart and it evolves into life?

01:43:06.000 It is a human being in a various stage of development.

01:43:09.000 That's it.

01:43:10.000 I am changing every day.

01:43:14.000 The fetus changes, the zygote changes.

01:43:16.000 It's all on the same continuum from conception into death.

01:43:19.000 So this is what I said, and this is what we lost in the argument.

01:43:23.000 There was a time where the left or the liberals in this country were safe, legal, and rare.

01:43:28.000 It's between the person and their doctor.

01:43:30.000 The government shouldn't be intervening.

01:43:31.000 And I'm like, I understand all that.

01:43:32.000 And I grew up with Democrat families saying, you know, abortion's really a truly despicable and awful thing.

01:43:37.000 The problem is, there are certain circumstances that are humiliating, embarrassing, life-altering, and a doctor and the mother might have to make that very difficult choice.

01:43:46.000 But of course, my dad would say, abortion just because for no reason, just, no, that's absolutely wrong, it shouldn't be done that way.

01:43:52.000 And so that's where Chicago Democrat was, you know?

01:43:56.000 Now I find myself much more closer to what's considered pro-life only because, you can call it close, relatively, to the pro-abortion crowd who come out on their TV shows yelling, everybody get abortions!

01:44:06.000 And they wear shirts celebrating it.

01:44:08.000 They, you know, Lena Dunham saying she wished she had one.

01:44:12.000 That is a whole level of depravity.

01:44:13.000 Wait, she said she wished she had one even though she doesn't have any kids?

01:44:16.000 Yeah.

01:44:17.000 She wishes she just had gone through the experience of having an abortion?

01:44:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:44:21.000 Disgusting. 0.99

01:44:22.000 Look, while you're bringing that up, let me just point out the fact that feminists— Time.com. 1.00

01:44:26.000 Lena Dunham said she wishes she had an abortion. 0.73

01:44:28.000 Just want to make sure we have that clear for legal reasons.

01:44:30.000 As like a kink? 0.99

01:44:32.000 Because they're pro-abortion. 0.84

01:44:33.000 They just want it.

01:44:34.000 And so I'm like—so here's what I say.

01:44:38.000 As I just described how I grew up reviewing it, I think there's a confusion as to what it means to be pro-life versus pro-choice because there's no real pro-choice movement anymore.

01:44:46.000 You have pro-abortion people and you have pro-life people, and the pro-choice people, safe, legal, and rare.

01:44:51.000 My issue is, there are circumstances in which the baby could die, is dead, is seriously, you know, is at serious risk, that could put the mother at risk.

01:45:00.000 There are many, many medical complications, and they may be rare.

01:45:03.000 In which case, I'm like, man, I don't want the government, like, to file paperwork on this stuff and give my private medical history.

01:45:09.000 And man, having the government involved in that.

01:45:11.000 The problem, though, is that I recognize 99 point whatever of abortions are listed as no reason at all.

01:45:16.000 Meaning they're typically just contraception, which is abhorrent.

01:45:20.000 So two points.

01:45:22.000 One, feminists in the 60s clearly stated that they wanted to destroy the concept of maternity. 1.00

01:45:29.000 They clearly stated they wanted to destroy the concept of motherhood.

01:45:33.000 They clearly stated they wanted to destroy the concept of family.

01:45:37.000 So that's baked into this ideology.

01:45:40.000 It's destroy the concept of motherhood. 1.00

01:45:41.000 Second, I saw just today a doctor, a pro-abortion doctor, say, oh my god, guys, we have to react.

01:45:49.000 Here's what we have to do now that there's this crazy abortion law in Texas. 1.00

01:45:53.000 Here's what you have to do.

01:45:54.000 You have to, one, get on contraceptive right away.

01:45:58.000 IUDs, condoms, birth control pill, use all of them.

01:46:01.000 Get on contraceptive right away.

01:46:03.000 Second, get pregnancy tests and test yourself regularly.

01:46:06.000 Third, track your period, whatever, whatever.

01:46:10.000 And in her clear explanation of all the things that you should do, it became obvious to me that her ilk and her people and the people she was talking to were clearly using abortion as contraception.

01:46:26.000 Because she hadn't been saying all along, get on a contraception, get an IUD, use the birth control pill and use a condom and pregnancy test yourself all the time as a way.

01:46:37.000 And not only like, hey, let's maybe not have sex with everybody.

01:46:41.000 But the idea was she had to replace the contraceptive tool of abortion, you know, with contraception. 1.00

01:46:49.000 All right.

01:46:50.000 That's absurd.

01:46:53.000 It's a crazy idea that someone would rather go to a clinic for abortion than just use birth control or a condom or something.

01:46:58.000 Just get an IUD.

01:46:59.000 I mean, look, I don't want to promote promiscuity amongst our young people, but there is some valid validity to the argument that every kid should be given an IUD and an HPV vax at age 14.

01:47:13.000 Exactly.

01:47:14.000 Let's read some more Super Chats. 0.91

01:47:15.000 We got Camel of the Mojave.

01:47:17.000 He says, I have a question for this gentleman.

01:47:19.000 I have a question for this gentleman.

01:47:20.000 You need to fart to hide the sound so they don't send out a warrant for your arrest

01:47:24.000 I have a question for this for this gentleman I have a question for this gentleman if I'm wearing a mask

01:47:30.000 on a plane and I have to sneeze Do I pull down the mask and sneeze into my napkin or do I

01:47:35.000 sneeze into my mask and live with that for the rest?

01:47:38.000 of the flight You take the mask back, you aim up and you go into the air.

01:47:43.000 Request the stewardess first.

01:47:45.000 I think you gotta pull it up and sneeze on the napkin.

01:47:47.000 That's awesome.

01:47:47.000 Otherwise that's just like viral load.

01:47:50.000 All right.

01:47:50.000 Soleil Cucumber Lime says, I'm against impeachment.

01:47:54.000 Biden is an even better advertisement for Republicans than the Black Lives Matter riots and defund the police. 0.67

01:47:59.000 I got money from government to pay myself and I bought Hex Crypto, which is, uh, congratulations.

01:48:04.000 This is not financial advice.

01:48:06.000 No, but I try, you know, I don't like it when people are like trying to pump their crypto.

01:48:10.000 But the first part of that was good.

01:48:11.000 Nice.

01:48:12.000 That's that's what I said.

01:48:13.000 Well, people super chat being like, hey, Tim, this is the best crypto by the crypto now, because I think they're trying to pump it.

01:48:19.000 But it's a good point.

01:48:20.000 I mentioned earlier, like maybe Republicans just want to sit back and let Biden keep slipping on banana peels because it's going to make the 2020 2022 midterms.

01:48:27.000 It's true, but it does make them look feckless.

01:48:29.000 OK, it makes them look weak.

01:48:31.000 It makes them look impotent.

01:48:34.000 And tens of thousands of humans are left behind in Afghanistan because of it, too.

01:48:39.000 Indeed.

01:48:40.000 Indeed.

01:48:40.000 But it's like, I mean, look, Kamala Harris is impeachment proof.

01:48:44.000 This impeachment immunity for Joe Biden.

01:48:49.000 Anything Joe Biden is doing now would be made worse by Kamala Harris presidency.

01:48:53.000 I don't think so.

01:48:54.000 I don't think I think he's he's unfit. 0.73

01:48:57.000 Yeah, but he's unfit through his mental incapacity as well as his ideology. 1.00

01:49:02.000 She's unfit because she's a psychopath. 1.00

01:49:05.000 Yeah, she's an authoritarian police officer. 1.00

01:49:06.000 I think Biden's a psychopath too, though. 0.99

01:49:09.000 They're both bad, you know? 0.99

01:49:10.000 He's a psychopath in the sense that he's not rooted in any moral system. 0.97

01:49:14.000 If you listen to the things that he said in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, whatever, that dude was a straight up and down racist. 0.97

01:49:23.000 Like, no question about it.

01:49:25.000 Like, I don't want my kids in a racial jungle was his statement against integration in the schools.

01:49:34.000 Yeah, he's a bad person. 0.99

01:49:35.000 He's a bad person.

01:49:37.000 And you know, what's interesting though, is I will listen to him in the eighties and the nineties, and I'll be like, he's a bad guy, but he kind of witty.

01:49:44.000 He was sharp.

01:49:44.000 He was, he was like, he was, he was obviously present.

01:49:49.000 He is so obviously not present now.

01:49:53.000 Oh yeah.

01:49:53.000 you. And the starter thing is all fake news.

01:49:55.000 2020. You're right.

01:49:57.000 2024 should be if they just look.

01:50:00.000 Well, I guess it depends on if they rerun him.

01:50:02.000 Right. Are they going to rerun him?

01:50:04.000 Are they going to are they going to primary a sitting president?

01:50:08.000 That is like for real, though.

01:50:11.000 Right. So if they rewrite, if they rerun him in 2024, it should be the easiest victory

01:50:18.000 that's ever been had ever.

01:50:20.000 I think even if it's Kamala, it'll be a cakewalk for.

01:50:24.000 That's good. That's exciting.

01:50:26.000 That's exciting.

01:50:27.000 If we can get there.

01:50:29.000 If we can get there as a nation.

01:50:30.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:50:31.000 We got Crepsy K. He says, Tim, can I get a shout-out? 1.00

01:50:35.000 A channel shout-out.

01:50:35.000 I made some great jalapeno mango jam recently.

01:50:39.000 You said you won't eat food that is sent in, but what if it was made on video?

01:50:42.000 We don't always agree, but I respect that you try and cover the facts.

01:50:45.000 I don't.

01:50:46.000 People send us food.

01:50:47.000 I don't eat it.

01:50:47.000 Like, why?

01:50:50.000 Just give it to Ian first.

01:50:50.000 I used to eat it.

01:50:52.000 Times have changed.

01:50:53.000 No, I will.

01:50:54.000 We get a lot of food sent to us.

01:50:55.000 I bet.

01:50:55.000 People will be like, well, so there's local businesses and I'm like, you can't really expect me to eat something I got in the mail.

01:51:01.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:02.000 Random.

01:51:03.000 Yeah.

01:51:03.000 Like, I don't know where this is, what this is or where it came from.

01:51:04.000 Probably not because I'm going to get dumped in a box and be like, it's chocolate.

01:51:07.000 And I'm like, I'm not going anywhere near it.

01:51:08.000 Right.

01:51:08.000 I think we should, I think you should hire some interns and let the interns test it.

01:51:12.000 And then we can all try this delicious jalapeno ham jam.

01:51:15.000 Also, I never open boxes the same way either.

01:51:18.000 How come?

01:51:19.000 Oh, in case there's something jumps out at you like a snake or something.

01:51:21.000 Litter bombs and weird stuff in it.

01:51:23.000 You never know.

01:51:25.000 We got security protocols.

01:51:26.000 We take operational security very seriously.

01:51:29.000 To the next level since I've been gone, by the way, in the last six or eight weeks.

01:51:32.000 This is a very important one.

01:51:33.000 There's forms and documents.

01:51:34.000 We gotta do real creative ways of opening boxes, like swing it down on a rope and it hits the...

01:51:39.000 There's a letter opener.

01:51:41.000 Just perfectly the side so that we can see what's inside.

01:51:45.000 Oh snap! 0.76

01:51:45.000 That's one of my very, very good friends, Jack Posobiec. 0.76

01:51:52.000 We just had a wonderful weekend with him and his wife at the Will Chamberlain's wedding with Jordan Lancaster.

01:51:58.000 We had a great time out there in the Smoky Mountains.

01:52:01.000 I love Jack Pasovic.

01:52:02.000 Would love to do a Jack and Jack.

01:52:03.000 Yes.

01:52:04.000 A Jack and Jack episode here.

01:52:05.000 When can we get that?

01:52:06.000 Yeah, we can make that happen.

01:52:07.000 Jack, you can ride with me.

01:52:09.000 There you go.

01:52:10.000 Till we get to the border.

01:52:11.000 The sheriff's after me for what I, never mind.

01:52:13.000 Okay.

01:52:13.000 Matrix says, Tim, Titan, Hunter, or Warlock?

01:52:15.000 I'm partial to my Hunter, but the Titans in Destiny have the best butts. 0.76

01:52:19.000 The first character I made was a Warlock, because I thought the Warlocks were Hunters, and then I leveled up a Warlock, and I was like, I guess I'm playing the Warlock.

01:52:25.000 And then I was like, I gotta make a Hunter, because Hunters are better, because Hunters can be invisible.

01:52:29.000 Oh, can they?

01:52:30.000 In the game I used to play, a hunter could heal himself in the field.

01:52:33.000 That was always really good.

01:52:34.000 And come up with some rations in the field.

01:52:36.000 That was always a big deal.

01:52:37.000 Yeah, they do massive damage from a distance.

01:52:39.000 Titan was my least favorite, to be honest.

01:52:41.000 Hunter is the best because they have the stealth.

01:52:44.000 And I play Rogue and Warcraft as well, but I like the support functions of the Warlock in Destiny.

01:52:49.000 If anybody out there played a game called Tele Arena, send me a DM on Twitter.

01:52:53.000 That was the best game ever.

01:52:55.000 Ever.

01:52:56.000 North, you're in a cave.

01:52:58.000 Nathan O'Connell says, Tim, I told you about the sailor that burnt down that ship.

01:53:01.000 There have been two bomb threats on the USS Nimitz in the last three days.

01:53:05.000 Could be contractors, sailors, or government workers, all with a security clearance.

01:53:09.000 Morale in the military at all-time lows.

01:53:12.000 Jeez.

01:53:13.000 Yup.

01:53:14.000 Here's one.

01:53:15.000 William Martin says, Hey gang, have you ever heard of the Battle of Athens in Tennessee?

01:53:19.000 A certain bearded Scottish count made a video about it.

01:53:21.000 It's an amazing tale of election fortification in the Second Amendment.

01:53:24.000 Yes.

01:53:25.000 Uh, famous.

01:53:26.000 You guys know the story?

01:53:26.000 I've heard of it.

01:53:27.000 I don't know the story.

01:53:27.000 Guys came back from World War II.

01:53:29.000 They, uh, they found that corrupt local officials had seized government and they took the city over and had a new election.

01:53:36.000 They fixed it.

01:53:36.000 Oh.

01:53:37.000 Fixed it.

01:53:38.000 Legitimized it.

01:53:39.000 And then after that, it was just, just kept going.

01:53:41.000 They didn't like send in the feds or anything to break it up.

01:53:44.000 I don't remember.

01:53:45.000 Scroatsmagoats says, Tim, you are now on the wrong side of the E4 Mafia.

01:53:49.000 Why? I said they probably know more about this than we do.

01:53:51.000 I was complimenting them.

01:53:52.000 Scroatsmagoats.

01:53:55.000 Wayne Kerr.

01:53:56.000 Is there a Mr. Wayne Kerr here?

01:53:58.000 Eileen Dover.

01:54:01.000 I love Don Kedick.

01:54:03.000 Don Kedick.

01:54:06.000 Wayne Kerr.

01:54:10.000 This is a great video they're talking about.

01:54:11.000 Eileen Dover.

01:54:11.000 You guys gotta see it.

01:54:12.000 It's on Twitter.

01:54:13.000 I don't know if it's real.

01:54:14.000 I think it is real.

01:54:14.000 Yeah, it's real.

01:54:15.000 It struck me. 1.00

01:54:16.000 Someone got like a council member to give him a bunch of fuck names. 1.00

01:54:18.000 Bart Simpson. 1.00

01:54:19.000 He's Bart Simpson, this council member.

01:54:21.000 So good.

01:54:23.000 Oh, Mr. Kerr.

01:54:26.000 Mr. Wayne Kerr?

01:54:28.000 It's still funny!

01:54:30.000 I'm maturing.

01:54:30.000 All right.

01:54:31.000 Isaiah Shalavola says, yo, what's the email for account problems?

01:54:34.000 Every time I log in, the site immediately logs me out.

01:54:37.000 It is members at timcast.com.

01:54:40.000 And there, yeah, I think it's a database thing, which we, I should be fixed for most people, but happens from time to time.

01:54:47.000 Yeah.

01:54:47.000 Look, you know, we, we actually have a really excellent development team.

01:54:51.000 They're like some of the best and the site I think is fantastic, but man, bugs happen, I guess.

01:54:56.000 I.

01:54:58.000 We try our best, man.

01:54:59.000 When you build a tech company, you have like a 5 to 1 support to... That's right.

01:55:03.000 So we have people that literally just sit there waiting for emails to come in or constantly answering them.

01:55:08.000 Of course, if it's like midnight, people are asleep, you know?

01:55:11.000 But maybe we'll hire some, you know, some late night people to just sit at the emails and make sure we get everybody on time.

01:55:15.000 I think that's a good idea.

01:55:17.000 All right. Ronan Jacks says, unfortunately, I believe Biden should be kept in. Hear me out.

01:55:22.000 Everyone who didn't vote or voted for him need their eyes held up and take in the horrors and

01:55:26.000 learn their lesson. The right will not be there to shield them from themselves.

01:55:30.000 That's a good point. Do it.

01:55:34.000 OMG Puppy says the Shah of Iran was a constitutional monarch and he legally disbanded the parliament when they elected a communist prime minister. 0.85

01:55:42.000 There is a counter narrative to CIA plot and both are probably true.

01:55:46.000 Wild.

01:55:47.000 You get your answers there?

01:55:48.000 Yeah, don't let a good problem go to waste.

01:55:50.000 They'll swoop in and get what they can out of it.

01:55:55.000 All right, BrownBear992 says, Tim, you said the only way the withdrawal could have been worse is if we bombed a bunch of civilians.

01:56:00.000 That's exactly what they did.

01:56:01.000 Biden droned a bunch of kids on the way out just a few days ago.

01:56:04.000 I know!

01:56:04.000 Yep.

01:56:05.000 I meant, like, if they decided to escalate the war with the Taliban and just start bombing cities, like, relentlessly.

01:56:11.000 In this instance, they were going after ISIS, and they're talking about working with the Taliban.

01:56:15.000 So, you know.

01:56:16.000 Yeah.

01:56:17.000 Bad.

01:56:17.000 Very bad.

01:56:20.000 All right.

01:56:22.000 Michael Calavoda says, it seems this falls into the Great Reset.

01:56:25.000 Do you agree or disagree?

01:56:27.000 What do you think is the next domino?

01:56:29.000 I have no idea.

01:56:31.000 Um, I'll tell you this.

01:56:32.000 Over the past month, I've been going to the supermarket.

01:56:35.000 Because I need cream for my coffee.

01:56:37.000 Oh yeah, what's up with that?

01:56:38.000 And I use real cream.

01:56:39.000 I don't use any of that bogus half-and-half garbage or, you know, I do have the International Delight stuff, just a little bit.

01:56:45.000 Uh, it hasn't been there.

01:56:46.000 Store's been out of all of it.

01:56:49.000 And that's weird to me.

01:56:50.000 It's like local farm town, too.

01:56:51.000 Yeah!

01:56:52.000 But it's like a supermarket, so I'm like, I guess we gotta go to a local farm.

01:56:54.000 I need to find a dairy farm and find some cream, because they don't have it. 0.99

01:56:57.000 They have the fake stuff.

01:56:59.000 They have cheese.

01:56:59.000 Gross.

01:57:00.000 Yeah. 0.92

01:57:01.000 I mean, not the cheese, the fake stuff.

01:57:02.000 Yeah, like the real stuff.

01:57:04.000 I've been doing keto, actually.

01:57:06.000 A lot of fat.

01:57:07.000 A lot of avocados and whipped cream.

01:57:09.000 Gotta take your vitamins.

01:57:10.000 Oh, it's so good for you.

01:57:11.000 Burn that sugar. 1.00

01:57:11.000 Yeah, this guy's statement that it might be part of the Great Reset, I wonder. 1.00

01:57:15.000 I wonder if this whole military industrial complex is part of that.

01:57:18.000 Yes!

01:57:18.000 Good luck!

01:57:19.000 You can do it!

01:57:19.000 Good luck!

01:57:19.000 I pitched my woo to Sydney today, and I like my odds wish me luck. I'll love you and Lydia posted. Yes

01:57:25.000 All right Mike Sullivan says great seeing Jack back

01:57:34.000 I noticed there is a jump to say Bush went to Iraq because of his father's history with them

01:57:39.000 In February 93, multiple Iraqis tried to topple the World Trade Center with a car bomb.

01:57:44.000 Also, the attack on the USS Cole was tracked back to... I don't know what that word is because we have a filter thing for websites.

01:57:53.000 Hmm.

01:57:53.000 Assad?

01:57:54.000 Oh, maybe.

01:57:55.000 No, I don't know. 1.00

01:57:56.000 Darn it. 0.99

01:57:57.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:57:57.000 Were they really? 0.99

01:57:58.000 I don't think they're really trying to topple the trade centers with that bomb.

01:58:01.000 Well, they put the truck up to the center column.

01:58:04.000 So yeah.

01:58:05.000 Oh, wow.

01:58:05.000 In the basement, they went to center column.

01:58:08.000 The World Trade Center was definitely like an attraction point for terror multiple times.

01:58:12.000 It's like a symbol of capitalism in a lot of ways.

01:58:17.000 All right.

01:58:18.000 Adam Horridge says conservatives understand individualism and group demonstrations.

01:58:21.000 They don't recognize both need to be used to change institutions, and we need to start with universities.

01:58:27.000 Somebody tweeted at me that I won't criticize conservatives or whatever, and I'm like, I mean, I guess it depends on what you mean, because Trump supporters aren't the same as, like, the neocons, which I rag on all the time.

01:58:37.000 I'm like, Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham are awful, but, you know, everybody on the right makes fun of them.

01:58:40.000 But it's also like, dude, When a pro-lifer conservative comes to me and says, I'm pro-life and here's why, I go, oh, I understand those arguments.

01:58:47.000 They make sense.

01:58:48.000 I disagree on some ethical issues.

01:58:49.000 Here's why I disagree.

01:58:50.000 The left comes out and says, we're for choice.

01:58:52.000 They're taking away the choice of women. 1.00

01:58:54.000 And I'm like, yeah, New York you mean with the vaccines?

01:58:56.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:58:56.000 That we're okay with.

01:58:58.000 And then I'm like, so you're not actually arguing anything to me.

01:59:01.000 You're just basically saying, give me power when I want power.

01:59:03.000 Correct.

01:59:04.000 What am I supposed to criticize the right for?

01:59:06.000 Disagreeing with me?

01:59:07.000 I'm not criticizing someone for having a different opinion.

01:59:09.000 We just disagree.

01:59:09.000 That's the problem I face with them when they're like, choice, except for that one.

01:59:14.000 They don't want choice.

01:59:15.000 They're pro-abortion. 0.73

01:59:17.000 That's why it's the most frustrating thing to argue with any of these people because they have no principle.

01:59:21.000 There's no principle.

01:59:23.000 Tap dancing on quicksand.

01:59:25.000 Exactly.

01:59:28.000 Camel of the Mojave back again says society doesn't run off of virtue, it runs off of self-interest.

01:59:32.000 You ignore basic human nature.

01:59:33.000 It's why communism fails.

01:59:35.000 It's why individualists need others.

01:59:38.000 It's why absolutists have to accept dealing with people with different morals.

01:59:41.000 Interesting.

01:59:43.000 And it's why we're having so much problems here, even though we have a constitution that says that we shouldn't be.

01:59:49.000 Alright.

01:59:51.000 Nevermore says, yo, uh, Tim, you mentioned you played Destiny a few times.

01:59:54.000 If you ever want to raid, I'm down to help.

01:59:56.000 You know, I haven't really- I- I used to play way more.

01:59:58.000 Like, uh, Adam and I used to play all the time.

02:00:00.000 We wasted way- way too much time playing Destiny.

02:00:02.000 Man, Vault of Glass was so much fun.

02:00:04.000 I love when you could throw the solar grenade and then make him walk off the edge, because the game was busted and they fixed it and took away all the fun.

02:00:09.000 But, uh, you know, I- I played the latest one a little bit, and I've done a few missions so far.

02:00:14.000 Yeah, we'll see how- Destiny 2?

02:00:16.000 Yeah, Destiny 2.

02:00:17.000 It is a well-made game.

02:00:18.000 You know what the problem with it is?

02:00:20.000 It's a really, really good first-person shooter.

02:00:22.000 The class system, I think, they've really worked it.

02:00:24.000 It's a great system.

02:00:26.000 The balance between the different types.

02:00:27.000 PvP is fun.

02:00:28.000 But man, is the story just like written by a seven-year-old.

02:00:31.000 Interesting.

02:00:32.000 It's like a seven-year-old who wanted to make Star Wars, and so they wrote up this really trash fan fiction of Star Wars.

02:00:37.000 Have you seen that show on HBO, Mythic Quest?

02:00:40.000 No.

02:00:41.000 Is it good?

02:00:41.000 Or maybe it's on Apple.

02:00:42.000 Yeah, it's about a game development company.

02:00:45.000 And it's about the guy that develops the game.

02:00:47.000 It's one of the guys from Always Sunny.

02:00:49.000 Oh, very cool.

02:00:50.000 It's super high quality.

02:00:52.000 It's very high quality.

02:00:53.000 It's really fun and interesting to see the back side of game development.

02:00:58.000 There's like the head of monetization.

02:01:00.000 And they're like, we developed this shovel.

02:01:01.000 And how are we going to make money off this shovel?

02:01:03.000 I mean, it's just really interesting to see how the games get made.

02:01:06.000 What's it called?

02:01:07.000 It looks like a lot of them.

02:01:09.000 Charlie Day is involved, Rob McAnally, and he's the lead.

02:01:12.000 It's super funny.

02:01:13.000 It's super funny and a good show.

02:01:16.000 All right, let's see.

02:01:17.000 Theodore Abate, is that how you pronounce it?

02:01:20.000 Or Abate? 0.75

02:01:21.000 Abbott?

02:01:22.000 Ian, natural law can best be explained by Socrates versus Henry David Thoreau.

02:01:26.000 I encourage you to read their arguments.

02:01:28.000 I think you're mistaken on this issue, but I appreciate your honesty.

02:01:30.000 Thanks, man.

02:01:31.000 I saw their debate on YouTube the other day.

02:01:33.000 It was lit.

02:01:33.000 Socrates and Thoreau?

02:01:35.000 Yeah.

02:01:35.000 They were really going at it.

02:01:36.000 What a world, man.

02:01:37.000 If we could have, we could do that somehow.

02:01:39.000 You think that we can like reanimate Jesus and like have him debate Einstein?

02:01:42.000 You can, dude.

02:01:42.000 Just read the books.

02:01:44.000 They engage in the same questions over time.

02:01:49.000 This is the beauty of philosophy.

02:01:50.000 The beauty of philosophy is that the questions have been the same since the beginning of time.

02:01:58.000 And if you can get yourself up to speed on what all the other thinkers have thought, you can engage in the same conversation that's been going on for 3000 years.

02:02:07.000 I notice you've been delving into the Bible.

02:02:09.000 It seems like you've... The Bible, the ancients, Aristotle, Plato... I've been reading all of it.

02:02:16.000 Very deeply.

02:02:17.000 And it's changed a lot of the ways that I see the world.

02:02:21.000 Mason Whaling says, So frustrating.

02:02:23.000 Listen to y'all pump the same mid-2000s edgy teenager anti-war talking points.

02:02:27.000 It's much more intricate than you think.

02:02:29.000 Read more.

02:02:30.000 Signed a lowly E4.

02:02:31.000 Remember the 13.

02:02:32.000 Absolutely remember the 13.

02:02:34.000 They offer your service, and I disagree.

02:02:37.000 I don't think we have edgy teenage anti-war talking points.

02:02:40.000 I think they're fundamentally ethical questions that we ask ourselves about why we go into these countries at all.

02:02:46.000 And I'll tell you this, we've absolutely entertained all of the nuance here.

02:02:49.000 We've had people on the show who talk about how we need to maintain some force to prevent the country from falling into a complete disaster.

02:02:54.000 It's a mess that we created that we're responsible for.

02:02:57.000 And I look at what's happening in Afghanistan and I'm like, it really is said that there could have been stability, there could have been stores and happiness and some values that we do like, but we are not Afghanistan.

02:03:10.000 It's not about edgy teenage talking points, it's about being an adult and saying, you're supposed to be responsible for yourself.

02:03:16.000 You're not supposed to aggress on other people and you're supposed to mind your own business.

02:03:20.000 And there's also the fundamental understanding of China's expansion, other countries expanding, why we want to occupy the strategic location in the first place, what it would lead to if we leave.

02:03:30.000 But there's one big issue, I think, here.

02:03:33.000 I've often talked about, you know, in 2016, for instance, I said, if you like the status quo, vote for Hillary Clinton.

02:03:37.000 You'll get all the exact same stuff, the war, the conflict, the crisis, the market manipulations, all that.

02:03:42.000 If you want change, then you gotta, I guess, vote for Trump, because he's something totally crazy, and for me, I didn't vote.

02:03:49.000 But the issue is, I guess it's utilitarianism versus deontological thinking or there's probably some other moral issues here.

02:03:56.000 The people who are like, I'm willing to violate the rights of others for some justifiable ends.

02:04:02.000 But there is no ends.

02:04:02.000 There's never an end.

02:04:04.000 We aren't going to reach the end goal of like defeating China and say, OK, the mission's over and we can all sit back and just rest easy now that we've won because there's never going to be a conflict.

02:04:13.000 No, there's always going to be conflict.

02:04:15.000 You know, which I can give you a really easy example of how to understand this.

02:04:19.000 It's like a TV show.

02:04:20.000 Name any TV show where there's, like, a protagonist, an antagonist, and then when they finally overcome and defeat the antagonist, a new villain emerges!

02:04:27.000 Oh, just by coincidence.

02:04:28.000 You know, like in Stargate, for instance.

02:04:29.000 They defeat the Goa'uld, and then all of a sudden the Ori show up. 1.00

02:04:32.000 You can use any show, for instance, where new villains arise.

02:04:35.000 So, there's always a power vacuum, there's always conflict.

02:04:38.000 Do we decide that we are going to have the ends justify the means, and then do a really, really awful thing, oppressing people and causing war, conflict, death, hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties, because of some nebulous and vague utopian ideal of what we're supposed to accomplish?

02:04:51.000 No, I think no we can't, because the journey is where we are.

02:04:54.000 So, we have to make the journey where we want to be.

02:04:57.000 The edgy teenage angst thing is like, war's bad, period, done. 0.93

02:05:01.000 Yeah, Bush is Hitler, and war is dumb, and it's like, my thing is like, imagine what we could have done with that two trillion dollars if we put into an Alaska. 0.90

02:05:11.000 You know, we had Jack and Daniel on, and we were like, imagine if we occupied, like, the nation building in Alaska. 0.99

02:05:16.000 Like, our own country!

02:05:19.000 We could have infrastructure.

02:05:21.000 Imagine if we bought Bitcoin with $2 trillion in 2011.

02:05:24.000 We'd have like $8 trillion and we'd be able to pay off our debt.

02:05:28.000 The market cap was substantially less than that.

02:05:32.000 Imagine if instead of wasting money, being like, we're going to colonize and build this other country.

02:05:35.000 We're going to create a new currency.

02:05:36.000 How about that?

02:05:37.000 Could you imagine if they spent all that money building a massive city in Alaska that made Alaska actually have industry and stuff like that?

02:05:43.000 That'd be so cool.

02:05:44.000 They didn't want to do it.

02:05:45.000 Anyway, my friends, smash that like button. 0.89

02:05:48.000 Subscribe to the channel.

02:05:49.000 Smash it! 0.54

02:05:50.000 Do it for Ian.

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02:05:51.000 Do it for Jack.

02:05:51.000 Do it for me.

02:05:52.000 I have a thing to promote.

02:05:53.000 May I promote?

02:05:54.000 Or are we promoting?

02:05:54.000 Let's go to TimCast.com because a member segment's coming up soon.

02:05:58.000 Follow us at TimCast IRL.

02:05:59.000 Follow me at TimCast if you'd like it, Jack.

02:06:03.000 We are doing a tour.

02:06:04.000 We're doing a Liminal Order tour.

02:06:05.000 First of all, if you want to join the Liminal Order, that's liminal-order.com, Masculinity Brotherhood Sovereignty.

02:06:11.000 Second, we're doing a tour.

02:06:12.000 It's called the Jacked Brunch Tour.

02:06:14.000 We're going around to 10 cities across the country for food, folks, and fun, fellowship, to break bread and drink wine with people that see the world the way that you do, to give you social connections, to have fun so you don't feel isolated and alone or like you're crazy.

02:06:29.000 Come hang out with us.

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02:06:32.000 We've got an event on Sunday, September 12th in Chicago.

02:06:36.000 Tickets are available.

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02:06:40.000 Sunday afternoon after church.

02:06:41.000 That's your thing.

02:06:43.000 Come hang out.

02:06:43.000 We're doing it in Chicago and then New York two weeks later after that on nine 26 and eight other cities after that.

02:06:49.000 So act Jack brunch on Twitter.

02:06:52.000 Get your tickets.

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02:06:56.000 Oh, that's right!

02:06:57.000 YouTube channel, Jack Murphy Live.

02:06:58.000 Follow me on Twitter, Jack Murphy Live, Instagram, all the things.

02:07:01.000 Your beard is looking exceptionally awesome today.

02:07:03.000 Thank you very much.

02:07:04.000 You know, the red hen, Rochelle, my fiancée, she's a hairstylist. 0.95

02:07:08.000 She trims it.

02:07:09.000 She's taken ownership of the beard.

02:07:11.000 But that's not nice.

02:07:12.000 This is not dye.

02:07:13.000 This is all natural.

02:07:14.000 I asked people, the people are like, do you dye your beard?

02:07:15.000 I'm like, if I did, why would I do it like this?

02:07:19.000 Why wouldn't I just dye it all brown or all gray?

02:07:23.000 I've never seen anything like it.

02:07:24.000 It's incredible.

02:07:24.000 Me neither.

02:07:24.000 It's amazing.

02:07:25.000 I love it.

02:07:26.000 I hate it.

02:07:26.000 Did you want it when you were a kid?

02:07:27.000 No, I had no idea.

02:07:28.000 I didn't even know this was here.

02:07:30.000 And so one day I just grew it and it just kept growing and boom.

02:07:32.000 And now I go around the country and everybody looks at me and they go, Jack Murphy live from 10 pool.

02:07:37.000 Look at your beard.

02:07:38.000 Look at your beard.

02:07:39.000 I can kind of look down.

02:07:40.000 Give me a mirror.

02:07:42.000 Hey, I love you, everyone.

02:07:43.000 Thank you.

02:07:43.000 I love you, everyone, too.

02:07:44.000 Thank you, Jack.

02:07:45.000 I love you.

02:07:46.000 Bye.

02:07:47.000 So good to be back.

02:07:47.000 Oh, yeah.

02:07:48.000 Jack, I'm delighted you're back.

02:07:50.000 I'm so glad.

02:07:50.000 I was going to say, I don't know if you've heard, but I am in the process of getting more followers than Sour Patch Kids on Twitter.

02:07:57.000 Do it.

02:07:58.000 You guys need to follow me at Sour Patch Lids.

02:08:00.000 That's my only goal in life.

02:08:01.000 You've got to be close, right?

02:08:02.000 I am getting close.

02:08:03.000 I'm like 4,000 away.

02:08:04.000 Oh, nice.

02:08:05.000 We should be able to do that right now.

02:08:06.000 Lids.

02:08:06.000 Lids, not kids.

02:08:07.000 That's right.

02:08:08.000 Not the kids.

02:08:09.000 Make sure you smash the like button and then head over to TimCast.com for that bonus member segment and we'll see you all there.

02:08:15.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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