Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Biden Says US Military WILL Defend Taiwan From China Gaffing Us To WW3 w-Joe Allen

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:47.000 you at a news conference in Tokyo.

00:00:51.000 President Joe Biden said that the US.

00:00:54.000 would intervene with military might should China invade Taiwan, effectively ending the U.S.

00:01:01.000 one-China policy, our ambiguous stance on whether or not we recognize Taiwan.

00:01:05.000 China, of course, is pissed off. 1.00

00:01:07.000 And I don't know if this was a powerful statement from a strong president saying, I'm issuing a red line Or a gaffe from an absent-minded, broken-brained president who is gaffing us towards World War III.

00:01:19.000 Considering even his own administration is walking things back and the press is trying to cover up for what he said, it seems like Joe Biden is just gaffing us into World War III.

00:01:29.000 So we'll definitely have to talk about that and the potential risks involved.

00:01:33.000 I think err on the side of gaffe with this guy.

00:01:35.000 For sure.

00:01:36.000 I think China knows that we want to defend Taiwan.

00:01:39.000 You know, it's just like, now it's out in the open, I guess.

00:01:41.000 Maybe they'll give China some excuses in negotiating power.

00:01:44.000 We also have gas, once again at record highs.

00:01:47.000 A diesel shortage.

00:01:48.000 Joe Biden wants to tap into the strategic diesel reserves because things are just not looking that good.

00:01:54.000 Monkeypox.

00:01:54.000 Yep, that's a thing, I guess.

00:01:56.000 And Donald Trump re-truthed, which, that's what it's called when you share a truth on Truth Social.

00:02:00.000 He re-truthed civil war.

00:02:03.000 And then the media got went nuts and they were like, Donald Trump is calling for civil war.

00:02:06.000 This is irresponsible.

00:02:08.000 And then you just need to Google the word civil war to see every leftist saying it's coming or it's already happening.

00:02:13.000 So we have Robert Reich, who's like the second, second civil war is already happening, but they only get mad when Trump says it.

00:02:18.000 And then all of a sudden they act like they never claimed it was coming.

00:02:21.000 So we will talk about all of that as well as transhumanism.

00:02:24.000 Joining us to discuss that is Joe Allen.

00:02:27.000 Hi there.

00:02:28.000 Very wonderful to be here.

00:02:30.000 Joe Allen.

00:02:30.000 I cover transhumanism at The War Room with Steve Bannon, where we are fomenting the revolt against the modern world.

00:02:37.000 I also write for a number of publications, The Federalist, Salvo Magazine, Chronicles Magazine, among others.

00:02:44.000 Cool.

00:02:45.000 Well, we should definitely talk about transhumanism.

00:02:47.000 I love talking about that stuff, so we'll get into all that.

00:02:48.000 Thanks for coming.

00:02:50.000 I'm Seamus Coghlan.

00:02:51.000 I run Freedom Tunes.

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00:03:04.000 What's up, everybody?

00:03:05.000 Ian Crossland over here.

00:03:06.000 He's back.

00:03:07.000 I just came across the country, and let me tell you, I got a taste of that gas price thing.

00:03:11.000 You crossed the land.

00:03:11.000 Yeah, I did.

00:03:12.000 I crossed the land.

00:03:13.000 I brought it back, Seamus.

00:03:15.000 Right here with you.

00:03:16.000 Man, that gas, $5 gallons.

00:03:18.000 That's no joke.

00:03:18.000 It's another reality, man.

00:03:20.000 It's like every time you go to the pump, it's just doing the Kali Ma thing where it rips your heart out.

00:03:23.000 Oh, jeez.

00:03:24.000 And you're like, I'm back and I brought it with me.

00:03:27.000 Oh, man.

00:03:27.000 We have a we have a truck that runs on diesel because, you know, sometimes we got to pull the trailer with it.

00:03:31.000 And just I'm like, let's not use that for the time being unless we absolutely have to.

00:03:35.000 So now it's just, you know, we need to go find some junk used electric car or something.

00:03:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:41.000 Yeah.

00:03:42.000 Yeah.

00:03:42.000 Dipped for a little while.

00:03:43.000 You know, the price of gasoline did go down for a little bit.

00:03:46.000 I was hoping that it was going to Yeah, I figured it would probably end up going back up, but not this quickly.

00:03:51.000 Well, I have bad news.

00:03:53.000 I think that the reason it dipped was because they lifted that gas tax and that goes back into effect in a couple weeks.

00:03:58.000 And they say that gas could rise by 30 cents overnight.

00:04:01.000 So that's really freaking exciting.

00:04:03.000 I'm thrilled about that.

00:04:03.000 The price of plane tickets is going up as well.

00:04:05.000 We noticed that with your trip. 0.99

00:04:06.000 Kind of sucks. 0.98

00:04:07.000 Anyway, I'm here too, pushing buttons. 0.81

00:04:08.000 I got a message from Luke Rydkowski, he said he was, he's like, I'm gonna come back soon so everyone can just, you know, tweet at him and let them know how much they love him and how much he should come back.

00:04:18.000 I think he's gonna end up walking.

00:04:19.000 Yeah, he might, yeah.

00:04:20.000 Walking back.

00:04:20.000 With these prices, are you kidding me?

00:04:22.000 Yeah, because he's driving diesel.

00:04:23.000 Yeah.

00:04:24.000 It's like, it's gonna be six bucks by August.

00:04:26.000 We'll get in on it, we'll get in on it.

00:04:27.000 Before we get started, ladies and gentlemen, head over to TimCast.com.

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00:04:58.000 would intervene with military to defend Taiwan.

00:05:02.000 The AP reports, President Joe Biden said Monday the U.S.

00:05:05.000 would intervene militarily if China were to invade Taiwan, declaring the commitment to protect the island is even stronger after Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

00:05:15.000 Quote, I'm quoting the AP here, it was one of the most forceful presidential statements in support of Taiwan's self-governing in decades.

00:05:25.000 Wow!

00:05:26.000 Talk about strength from our leader, Joe Biden.

00:05:30.000 It's fact so strong that Bloomberg reports Biden misspeaks on Taiwan, says U.S.

00:05:37.000 military would intervene.

00:05:39.000 Oh, you know what I love?

00:05:41.000 They try to cover for him so much, they don't know which direction to go.

00:05:45.000 So the AP is like, what a forceful statement.

00:05:48.000 Like, no, he was gaffing.

00:05:50.000 And then Bloomberg is like, he was misspeaking.

00:05:52.000 Yo, he literally said one word, yes.

00:05:55.000 He was asked, would the U.S.

00:05:56.000 use military, intervene with the military to defend Taiwan from China?

00:05:59.000 And Biden goes, yes.

00:06:01.000 And then the report was like, really?

00:06:03.000 Wow.

00:06:04.000 Yeah.

00:06:05.000 Okay.

00:06:06.000 Everyone was surprised.

00:06:07.000 Joe Biden just came out and just said that, effectively ending multi-decade long policy on how the U.S.

00:06:13.000 approaches China and basically just telling China to go screw up.

00:06:17.000 So if someone who is cognitively functioning said yes, I'd be like, whoa.

00:06:25.000 But I think what really happened is we know the U.S.

00:06:27.000 does want to intervene with military in the event China invades Taiwan, but nobody's gonna come out and say it.

00:06:33.000 But, you know, Joe Biden and his son's setting, so it's like it's getting late in the day and he's like, and then they say it and he just his filters off.

00:06:40.000 Yes.

00:06:41.000 And then immediately an unnamed White House official walks it back saying, that's not true.

00:06:45.000 We wouldn't do this.

00:06:46.000 And we have the one China policy that hasn't changed.

00:06:49.000 I see all this reporting coming from CNN and these reporters coming out being like, the White House actually says, and then I'm like, who?

00:06:57.000 Ooh, CNN comes out and covers for the president.

00:07:00.000 It's not true, he didn't mean it.

00:07:02.000 Bloomberg covers for the president, saying he was misspeaking.

00:07:05.000 And the AP covers for the president, saying it was a truly forceful statement.

00:07:09.000 Yeah, we're gaffing towards World War III and just... It's almost like it's dangerous to have a... Nice, by the way.

00:07:16.000 It's almost like it's dangerous to have a president who's experiencing cognitive decline.

00:07:19.000 You know, I think there's only one way to bring this administration back, and that's for Joe Biden to become the first celebrity endorsement of Neuralink.

00:07:27.000 Once that happens, then we can go forward.

00:07:30.000 And of course, you know, as much as I oppose pretty much everything that Elon Musk is about, aside from this free speech and the chicks, I think that, you know, he would probably bring it back around if he could tweak the Neuralink to start making Biden say ridiculous things, more ridiculous things than he does now.

00:07:47.000 For instance, if he could have him turn to Nancy Pelosi and say that your hair looks like it smells so delicious. 0.64

00:07:54.000 Come on, man.

00:07:54.000 I smell Nancy's hair.

00:07:57.000 But I agree, like, if there's anybody who should get Newell and gets Joe Biden, he needs some kind of... The uppers clearly aren't working anymore.

00:08:03.000 Maybe this is kind of like the missing footage from Idiocracy. 0.98

00:08:07.000 You know, before everything goes down, World War III wipes out all the rest of the smart people due to some ridiculous president.

00:08:16.000 No, we all get on Elon Musk's starship and leave.

00:08:19.000 How many people can that thing hold?

00:08:21.000 Do we know?

00:08:22.000 No, I don't know anything about it.

00:08:23.000 Starship?

00:08:24.000 He's building that starship for like a Mars colony or something?

00:08:26.000 You guys enjoy.

00:08:28.000 Well, I mean, if the Earth is about to explode, yeah, absolutely.

00:08:32.000 Mars has like, what, a third of Earth's gravity?

00:08:34.000 Oh, Mars can't sustain life. 0.99

00:08:35.000 What's that gonna do to people?

00:08:37.000 Underground.

00:08:38.000 It's gonna make their heads really big.

00:08:40.000 Well, the issue is Mars, my understanding is, doesn't have an atmosphere.

00:08:42.000 So we'd be living in domes.

00:08:44.000 Like, you know, Biodome, like with Pauly Shore.

00:08:46.000 Remember that movie?

00:08:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:48.000 You know, Steve Bannon worked on the original Biodome.

00:08:51.000 Really?

00:08:51.000 Like the real one?

00:08:52.000 Yep.

00:08:53.000 Absolutely.

00:08:53.000 In the real world, not the Pauly Shore movie?

00:08:55.000 No, the real one in the real world.

00:08:57.000 Oh, okay.

00:08:57.000 It's fascinating.

00:08:58.000 I'll look that up.

00:08:59.000 I just saw an article about quantum, uh, some sort of quantum telescopes that can check underground and like map the underground now, all the caverns and stuff.

00:09:06.000 So maybe we'll do that on Mars.

00:09:08.000 I was just thinking about Biden a couple of days ago while I was back at my parents.

00:09:11.000 I was kind of off the, off the internet thinking like, if you have a military commander that's incompetent or that's losing his mind or her mind, you need to replace them immediately with, with another form of command.

00:09:22.000 Unfortunately, the president's a little awkward situation because it's not like a general.

00:09:26.000 You're a commanding general.

00:09:28.000 But I would be so much happier with Kamala Harris running the show right now because he's not stable. 0.57

00:09:32.000 No, no, she's an AI auto-predict text bot. 0.96

00:09:35.000 She really is.

00:09:36.000 I mean, it's funny because it's a joke because of like a few gaffes she's had.

00:09:41.000 But when you really look at what she said, she's not speaking.

00:09:44.000 It's like she sits down and she's imagining what's going on in her head as she's being interviewed and she's like, don't screw up, don't screw up, say words, say words.

00:09:51.000 You did it.

00:09:52.000 Those are words.

00:09:53.000 And she's not actually telling anybody anything.

00:09:55.000 She's like, as the vice president, you have to be vice presidential to be the vice president on a vice presidential mission for the vice president.

00:10:03.000 And you're like, okay, what?

00:10:05.000 Well, say what you want.

00:10:06.000 The woman stands for freedom. 0.99

00:10:07.000 She does that. 0.98

00:10:08.000 That's true.

00:10:09.000 Yeah, I was looking at the You've been waiting for the

00:10:11.000 to use that one?

00:10:12.000 No, no.

00:10:13.000 How weak.

00:10:14.000 It's the, yeah, you're right.

00:10:15.000 I wrote that a couple days ago.

00:10:17.000 I was like, I hope I can say this on Timcast.

00:10:19.000 I was looking at the succession the other day and, you know, one hard bout of COVID or

00:10:25.000 maybe monkey pox at this point and you would take out Biden, Pelosi, and I think it's Leahy

00:10:31.000 and then boom, you're left with Harris and Blinken.

00:10:34.000 Imagine a world like that.

00:10:36.000 That's probably why they're so worried about every new thing that's popping up because

00:10:39.000 they're, I mean, let's be, let's be real.

00:10:40.000 COVID was, it was primarily hitting older people.

00:10:44.000 Even Bill Gates says so.

00:10:45.000 So naturally, yeah, they were freaking out.

00:10:47.000 It's probably why Nancy Pelosi was like, everyone's got to wear a mask no matter what, because

00:10:50.000 she's in the affected group.

00:10:52.000 I mean, what is she, 80?

00:10:53.000 Yeah, that's like the highest bracket for COVID.

00:10:57.000 And Joe Biden, too.

00:10:58.000 I mean, seriously, though.

00:10:59.000 Look, we don't want anybody getting sick or anything, but you can't freak out.

00:11:03.000 Or I should put it this way.

00:11:05.000 It goes to show why it is really dangerous to have these elderly... Octogenarians. 1.00

00:11:11.000 Yeah, octogenarians.

00:11:12.000 She's 82.

00:11:13.000 82.

00:11:13.000 They've gripped onto power and they won't let it go.

00:11:21.000 They're like those things on ship's hulls.

00:11:23.000 It's like Gollum.

00:11:24.000 Barnacles.

00:11:25.000 They're old barnacles.

00:11:26.000 We're stuck with them.

00:11:28.000 I'd imagine Congress is more like a bunch of Gollum from Lord of the Rings.

00:11:31.000 You know, they want the power, they won't give it up.

00:11:33.000 They're all like, their teeth have fallen out, their hair's gone.

00:11:35.000 I mean, I'm not kidding!

00:11:37.000 The comparison holds up.

00:11:38.000 It feels so intricately entrenched.

00:11:40.000 I'm very concerned about how to fix the situation with the United States, because I'm like, the corporations don't own us.

00:11:45.000 We own corporations.

00:11:47.000 The United States is people's sovereign.

00:11:49.000 And people on Twitter are like, no, the corporations own us, Ian.

00:11:51.000 And like, come on, purge the black pill.

00:11:53.000 We can take control.

00:11:55.000 But they're so entrenched, these 80-year-old billionaires or millionaires, with these people that are like, I don't know how tight Nancy Pelosi and Klaus Schwab are.

00:12:03.000 I'm just using names right now.

00:12:04.000 But people that are like multinational bankers are tight with these 80-year-old politicians, and they've been tight for like 30 years.

00:12:11.000 How do you disrupt that web?

00:12:14.000 How would you disrupt that web?

00:12:15.000 Is it technological?

00:12:16.000 Is this where the future of technology is headed?

00:12:19.000 You know, that's a hard question to throw at me right away.

00:12:22.000 How do you fix it all?

00:12:24.000 Do you do it with technology?

00:12:25.000 Give us the answers, otherwise you have no credibility.

00:12:28.000 You know, I have a answer, but I think that most of our solutions lie regionally, locally.

00:12:34.000 I don't think that any mass movement is necessarily going to stop this corporate technocratic takeover that we've seen.

00:12:44.000 Really, arguably since the 60s, people put the date different places.

00:12:50.000 And it does have such a momentum at this point that, to me, I think the notion of just stopping it like a train is pretty ridiculous.

00:12:59.000 I think that the best options we have right now lie with ourselves.

00:13:05.000 It's very unwise to look to a higher earthly power for salvation in this situation.

00:13:11.000 Yeah, well, I think the question is, how do we break it apart?

00:13:14.000 I agree heavily that we need localized solutions.

00:13:18.000 I think a big part of this is people looking after their own lives, their families.

00:13:21.000 Obviously, it would be ideal to return power to more local levels.

00:13:24.000 But then the question becomes, how do we break up the very strongly centralized power so that becomes more possible?

00:13:29.000 Antitrust.

00:13:30.000 I mean, and that definitely has an impact, right?

00:13:32.000 That slows the train.

00:13:34.000 But when you're talking about, to me, I take a profoundly negative view of the wider possibilities of technology.

00:13:42.000 I think that, you know, in the end, technology is always about control.

00:13:46.000 And Conceivably, it's about a human controlling nature, controlling society, controlling themselves.

00:13:54.000 But that means that the vast swath of humankind is going to be subject to that control.

00:14:01.000 And the desire for that power, the capabilities that we already have now, that you already see in Google, Facebook, Amazon, This already has momentum that you break them up, great.

00:14:13.000 You've at least diminished some of their power.

00:14:15.000 But I think that ultimately, long view, we've got to go down the dark, dark tunnel before we get to the light.

00:14:21.000 You mean like, ayahuasca journeys where people see their inner demons and stuff?

00:14:26.000 You know, it doesn't take ayahuasca for me to see the inner demons, but now that you mention it, we won't go there.

00:14:33.000 It's bad for my brain.

00:14:34.000 I think culture building.

00:14:37.000 You know, so I've had a lot of conversations this past weekend.

00:14:39.000 I was on a trip.

00:14:39.000 I was in Austin, by the way.

00:14:40.000 That was fun.

00:14:41.000 Talked to a lot of cool people.

00:14:42.000 And the one thing I think, you know, I always come back to is you can build all the greatest tech in the world.

00:14:47.000 You can vote whoever you want into power.

00:14:49.000 None of that matters unless you have culture.

00:14:51.000 So, you know, we talk about the saying, I think it was Breitbart, politics is downstream from culture.

00:14:58.000 Technology, I think, is as well.

00:15:01.000 But technology, I don't think, is as important.

00:15:04.000 I know you've said the inverse, Ian, before.

00:15:07.000 But the issue is...

00:15:10.000 There exists alternative to Twitter.

00:15:12.000 Nobody uses it.

00:15:13.000 Why?

00:15:13.000 It's cultural issues.

00:15:14.000 You know, people don't want to use alternatives.

00:15:17.000 They want to be on the platform where everyone is.

00:15:19.000 So if you... Culture is everything.

00:15:23.000 I'll put it that way.

00:15:23.000 If we can start inspiring young people and say, these are the values that are good and they should hold, everything else becomes secondary.

00:15:30.000 As those kids age, everything else gets washed away with the new generation.

00:15:33.000 So it really is about inspiring young people with good values is the most powerful and important thing you can do to fix these problems.

00:15:39.000 One of the things I noticed being out of town and on the road, I was just not tapped into the information, and it was like I realized the amount of information overload I've been exposed to in the last two years, and how clear things started to get when I wasn't exposed to Twitter.

00:15:53.000 And then even if I pulled up for five minutes, I'd start to feel this dark negativity, and I'd see a few people arguing, and like, man, I'm gonna have to withdraw that from my brain for a while.

00:16:01.000 That might have something to do with the darkness, which actually isn't evil.

00:16:03.000 Like, too much light will burn you, so you need to sometimes have no thought.

00:16:08.000 What was it, uh, Jack Dorsey called Twitter the light of global consciousness?

00:16:13.000 Very spiritual claim.

00:16:14.000 He said that he was something to the effect he's happy to pass the torch of the light of global consciousness to Elon Musk.

00:16:20.000 And this concept of Twitter being Something mystical of that sort.

00:16:25.000 I mean, that sits at the heart of transhumanism.

00:16:27.000 But to me, you know, you look at this argument people are having right now about free speech on Twitter, which I do think it's good that if we are going to be stuck in what James Poulos calls the cyborg vivarium, at least everyone gets a say.

00:16:42.000 But it doesn't change the fact that we're still stuck in that cyborg vivarium, right?

00:16:48.000 We're still We're in a digital surveillance system.

00:16:51.000 We're in a, basically, a 24-7 propaganda machine that's pouring all this irrelevant, ultimately irrelevant information into your brain and distracting you from what I think are the most important things.

00:17:03.000 I mean, all this started with broadcast media.

00:17:06.000 I mean, radio.

00:17:07.000 Absolutely.

00:17:08.000 Of course, the newspapers.

00:17:09.000 Even before then, newspapers were weak, they weren't as strong.

00:17:12.000 But they were the most influential medium, so they would write stuff, people would believe it.

00:17:16.000 Then you get radio, they say it, people believe it.

00:17:18.000 Then you get broadcast towers, television, the networks, they say it, people believe it.

00:17:22.000 Now with the Internet, nobody knows what to believe.

00:17:25.000 I mean, the disinformation expert herself was sowing disinformation, and now doesn't even under— I don't think Nina Janko has even truly understood exactly why people were mad at her, because she lives in a disinformation bubble herself.

00:17:40.000 So I love it when people who don't do research accuse people who do of not knowing, you know, the truth or reality, and everyone's accusing each other.

00:17:48.000 There are very few people who can see more than others because they're trying.

00:17:52.000 No one can see everything.

00:17:54.000 So everybody's, you know, we're all trying to figure things out.

00:17:57.000 But I think at this point, the way technology is going, you're just going to think something's true and you're not going to know who to believe or who to trust.

00:18:05.000 And there's nothing you can do about it.

00:18:06.000 Did you guys hear the War of the Worlds 1938 radio drama?

00:18:10.000 Oh, yes.

00:18:10.000 Orson Welles.

00:18:11.000 I'm familiar with it, but I never actually listened to it.

00:18:13.000 It's pretty wild.

00:18:13.000 It's awesome, actually.

00:18:14.000 I was told that when that played on the radio, people actually thought it was real and that aliens were actually invading and people killed themselves.

00:18:20.000 Some people, people would come out looking for aliens.

00:18:22.000 I don't know if that's true though, is it?

00:18:23.000 I think that was apocryphal, yeah.

00:18:24.000 Yeah, I think that's like an urban legend.

00:18:26.000 Certainly, there was mass panic.

00:18:29.000 I can remember when I was a young man, my grandfather told me that when the first dirigible, it was like a glowing golden dirigible, floated over this small town in Georgia, this woman went under her bed.

00:18:41.000 She thought it was the angels coming to end the world, and two or three days later, they found her there.

00:18:46.000 They looked around for her, they found her there, and she was completely terrified.

00:18:49.000 She didn't want to come out.

00:18:51.000 These sorts of things, I mean, you look at the cargo cults, all these sorts of, you could say, atavistic misinterpretations of what technology really is, that's really common.

00:19:03.000 With the Orson Welles story, though, I think it's just really hilarious.

00:19:06.000 Can you imagine if they just played Cloverfield on television today like it was a news broadcast without telling people it was a movie?

00:19:13.000 Well, the crazy thing is, when I was in Austin, I went to Waco.

00:19:17.000 I actually went to Mount Carmel, where the site of the Waco massacre.

00:19:22.000 And, you know, with all due respect to the people who are running it, very nice woman, they did have fake news.

00:19:28.000 They had the meme of, what was the name, Chipman, the ATF guy, who was there, holding the picture of the burning church or whatever, which is not a real photograph.

00:19:39.000 It's a meme mocking him.

00:19:40.000 He was holding a piece of paper saying like, you know, AMA or something.

00:19:43.000 I don't know.

00:19:43.000 And then someone photoshopped it to be him holding the site of, you know, Mount Carmel Massacre, Waco Massacre.

00:19:48.000 And they thought it was real.

00:19:50.000 And so I was like, oh, actually, no, that's a meme.

00:19:51.000 He's making fun of him.

00:19:52.000 And they were like, oh, we didn't know that.

00:19:54.000 So people, deepfakes, very much are impacting people.

00:19:57.000 And I don't mean deepfakes in the sense that they're intentionally misleading.

00:20:00.000 Like, no wonder Snopes is fact-checking satire because a lot of people just believe this stuff because they don't know what's true or what's false.

00:20:09.000 It's fascinating because I think...

00:20:11.000 False information is a big problem.

00:20:13.000 In fact, it is one of the biggest problems, and I would dare say that my entire career is an effort to try and debunk false information.

00:20:21.000 The only problem is it's coming from corporate press with billions or trillions of dollars over, you know, a decade or whatever, to just keep pumping out disinformation.

00:20:30.000 Sometimes it feels like you're trying to knock down a skyscraper with a little hammer, a little ball-peen hammer.

00:20:34.000 You can't do it.

00:20:35.000 It's not gonna happen.

00:20:37.000 You need specialized tools.

00:20:38.000 What you can do, as you were talking about, you can cultivate spaces outside of it.

00:20:42.000 Which, you know, we have those.

00:20:44.000 I'm not necessarily saying the digital spaces, but that's part of it.

00:20:47.000 But I think that at least half the country, if not more, is completely cynical about what comes out of the corporate press.

00:20:53.000 And those conversations on the ground, and also in the media, digital media space, I do see a real hope of people having some degree of anchoring or sanity in all of this madness.

00:21:06.000 Let me pull up this tweet from former disinformation czar Nina Jenkiewicz.

00:21:11.000 She tweeted in a longer thread about a piece that she had previously published.

00:21:16.000 In one of her tweets, in the thread, she says, Since this piece was published in summer 2020, the spread and effects of disinformation on American society have only worsened and become entrenched in domestic politics, as the last few weeks of my life have shown.

00:21:31.000 This is the type of work I had hoped to do at DHS, and the type of work the USG sorely needs to invest in.

00:21:37.000 This is the type of work that I have built my career on, not a few contextless tweets, and this is the type of work I will continue in the public sphere.

00:21:45.000 I said, disinformation specialist claims the US Disinformation Board was to focus on domestic issues, a shocking admission.

00:21:55.000 It really is.

00:21:56.000 Now that she's out, she's outright saying, oh, all of this disinfo is in American politics, and that's what I wanted to focus my work on.

00:22:04.000 She responded, I'd encourage you to read the paper that I'm referencing, which is entirely focused on hostile state disinformation.

00:22:13.000 She then responded to a few other people the same thing, saying, the thread you're citing, which you've removed the initial context to, is in reference to a paper about hostile state disinfo.

00:22:21.000 You can disagree with my assessment that it affects domestic politics discourse, but the strategy described in the paper is the work I'm referring to.

00:22:28.000 It's almost like she doesn't understand.

00:22:30.000 I would assume she outright doesn't get it.

00:22:33.000 Or she's just lying.

00:22:35.000 The issue is, there is no difference from what she claims to be Russian disinfo and typical American politics.

00:22:43.000 She is someone who has tweeted out the Russian disinformation line uncritically without fact-checking.

00:22:48.000 When it turns out it was true, the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:22:51.000 She says, I was just quoting what the president said.

00:22:54.000 Yes, you were pushing out disinformation without fact checking, without any critical assessment, just repeating what the liar Joe Biden was saying about his son and the illicit deals they were doing.

00:23:05.000 If you did Any amount of work you would have seen that there are illicit dealings from Hunter Biden with Burisma in Ukraine and China.

00:23:12.000 You would know about Joe Biden flying his son in Air Force Two into China for private equity deals, but she's done no research on any of this, blindly pushes lies, and then says, I want to work on these issues affecting domestic politics, but that's out of context when you say my work would have involved domestic politics.

00:23:27.000 If she thinks the Hunter Biden laptop story Was misinformation or disinformation.

00:23:32.000 If she was unwilling to actually look into what that was as an expert on it, she absolutely was going to be interfering with First Amendment issues.

00:23:42.000 She doesn't get it.

00:23:43.000 These are children who have no experience, who are not experts, who just think they're smarter than you being given government jobs.

00:23:48.000 Hey, that sounds like government in its entirety, doesn't it?

00:23:52.000 I don't know, Tim.

00:23:52.000 I think she did some research.

00:23:53.000 She asked Joe Biden if he did anything wrong.

00:23:55.000 His administration said no.

00:23:56.000 So there you go.

00:23:58.000 Mostly false.

00:24:01.000 Well, okay then.

00:24:02.000 I stand corrected, Seamus.

00:24:03.000 You know, she said that it was a bunch of state disinformation.

00:24:06.000 I think she specified it's a lot of corporate disinformation too.

00:24:08.000 We really got to focus on the corporations trying to take over the world right now.

00:24:11.000 She said the Hunter Biden laptop story, what did she say, it was a Trump campaign product?

00:24:15.000 I believe so, yeah.

00:24:16.000 She's full of it! 1.00

00:24:17.000 It's what she does.

00:24:17.000 She lies.

00:24:18.000 She entrenches herself in domestic politics and says, I want to focus on this, but you've removed context.

00:24:23.000 This is the problem with these people.

00:24:24.000 Now, of course, you know, respect for her responding at all.

00:24:26.000 I invite her on the show, but she's unavailable.

00:24:29.000 She's about to have a child, I guess.

00:24:30.000 Very busy, yes.

00:24:30.000 All right, well, you know.

00:24:31.000 Congratulations to you.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a legitimate response as to why you can't come on the show.

00:24:34.000 A lot of people are like, she's scared, she'll never come on.

00:24:37.000 She's gonna have a kid.

00:24:38.000 That's an acceptable answer, I mean, honestly.

00:24:40.000 I don't think she's lying about being pregnant or anything like that.

00:24:43.000 Well, we don't have a disinformation board to investigate it, so without that, we can never know if she's pregnant or not. 1.00

00:24:49.000 Yes, what really bothers me is that Americans would get caught in the crossfire of this or collaterally damaged by this disinformation specialist hammering down on things that they think are like foreign actors or, you know, like how can you discern if it's a 12 year old in Russia with a VPN or a 17 year old in Dubuque, Iowa?

00:25:07.000 I mean, they might think they can, maybe they think they do, but I mean, the Russian would want you to think it's Dubuque, the Dubuque guy would want you to think it's Russian, so like, Who in their right mind thinks they have the hammer on that?

00:25:19.000 You look at all the things that Nina Jenkiewicz is about, right?

00:25:22.000 And especially with the laptop instance.

00:25:24.000 But, you know, COVID, all of that.

00:25:27.000 These people aren't really trying to stamp out disinformation, obviously.

00:25:31.000 They're just trying to stamp out any competition with their disinformation.

00:25:34.000 I mean, I'm not saying that every pronouncement that came out regarding the laptop, let's just say that I think all of that was BS.

00:25:42.000 But say with COVID, I think that to some extent, people were confused, afraid. 1.00

00:25:47.000 They said a lot of stupid things. 1.00

00:25:48.000 They refused to walk them back. 1.00

00:25:50.000 And when they did, they pretended as if they were right the whole time, or as if the situation was evolving.

00:25:55.000 But at this point, after two and a half years of it, really, you know, for me, 42 years of it, but Two and a half years of it, I just see no reason at all to take these people on good faith at all.

00:26:06.000 Totally agreed, and I've mentioned this before on the show, but they argue that the science changes, and fair enough because science does change, but if you're going to make that admission and you're going to fall back on that whenever you have to change the narrative, you do not get to admonish people for posting information that conflicts with the narrative when you have decided that that is the case, at least for the time being, right?

00:26:25.000 So when it comes to the lab leak hypothesis, that's the most famous and obvious example.

00:26:28.000 They claim that that was disinformation, misinformation, people shouldn't be allowed to spread it.

00:26:32.000 Then, as soon as it became more accepted for people to believe that, they were able to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing by saying, well, the information changed.

00:26:41.000 Okay, fair enough, information changes, but then you don't get to censor people who present alternate information.

00:26:45.000 It's that easy.

00:26:46.000 It's that easy.

00:26:47.000 Where did it come from?

00:26:48.000 to be what their intent is going to be.

00:26:50.000 My prediction for the disinformation board, and apparently it's still going on, I don't

00:26:53.000 know what the latest detail is, but it's not ending, they're going to issue a statement

00:26:57.000 and say, oh, you know that story about Hunter Biden and those ladies of the night?

00:27:02.000 That actually came from, where did it come from?

00:27:06.000 Slovenia.

00:27:07.000 So, we're going to ban it.

00:27:09.000 And here's our list.

00:27:10.000 And then Twitter is going to come out and be like, yeah, that isn't allowed to be tweeted.

00:27:14.000 Twitter, uh, tweeted, Twitter launched their crisis disinformation policy, where they're actively editorializing.

00:27:22.000 I mean, at a certain point, can we, where, where's, is there some, like, ultra-rich person who can just fire a bunch of lawsuits?

00:27:28.000 You know, you know, let me, let me, let me tell you guys something.

00:27:30.000 You know what the most annoying thing about lawyers is?

00:27:34.000 The worst conversations I ever have are with lawyers. 0.58

00:27:38.000 They are, by definition, defeatist.

00:27:42.000 Every single conversation.

00:27:44.000 I've never had a conversation with a lawyer who's like, I'm going to go scorched earth.

00:27:47.000 No, they go, well, you know, the thing about this company is that under this statute, you're not going to win.

00:27:54.000 It's going to cost you a lot of money.

00:27:55.000 So in reality, and I'm like, how does precedent get set?

00:28:00.000 Someone challenges the law.

00:28:02.000 Someone files a lawsuit, a court issues their ruling, it goes up, hits the appellate courts, it stops.

00:28:07.000 Times v. Sullivan, the precedent by which we have, you know, the standard for malice and defamation or whatever.

00:28:13.000 Challenge it!

00:28:15.000 But every single time I talk to a lawyer about Section 230 protections, about, you know, Twitter outright saying, our staff will now determine what's true, and I'm like, okay, come on, at a certain point, they have to have, like, stepped over the line, right?

00:28:29.000 Here's what I hear section 230 does not say that you aren't allowed to edit you're allowed to do good faith moderation 230 actually protects that and then I'm like, okay Which means we need a judge to tell us to interpret the law to find out what that limitation is not just sit back and go I guess we can't do anything ever Yeah, they've been slow to pick up on that the last 15 years.

00:28:52.000 We need some serious social media, I guess you call it legislation or law, lawfare.

00:28:58.000 People really need to start taking these social media networks seriously.

00:29:01.000 Well, you know, to the extent they're a monopoly, and I think they are really a de facto monopoly, it certainly falls under the First Amendment, right?

00:29:08.000 I mean, if these are really, if this consists of 80 to 90% of the public conversation, it's no longer private corporations.

00:29:16.000 These people pretty much control all of the information flow at that point.

00:29:20.000 Let's talk about Wikipedia.

00:29:21.000 Because I haven't gone off on this one.

00:29:23.000 I'm really pissed off about this.

00:29:24.000 I don't understand.

00:29:25.000 Well, I think I do understand.

00:29:26.000 Let me tell you what's going on.

00:29:27.000 Wikipedia publishes every article under their byline.

00:29:30.000 Every single article says, from Wikipedia.

00:29:34.000 Right there, I'm like, present that argument to a judge.

00:29:36.000 Your Honor, I understand Section 230 protections, that you can't be held liable for what someone else posts on your platform.

00:29:43.000 I'd like to make the argument here that Wikipedia has assigned credit to themselves for this article by putting from Wikipedia.

00:29:48.000 Now, if I put from Tim Pool, that's my byline.

00:29:50.000 I'm responsible for that speech, right?

00:29:51.000 Well, Wikipedia has done it.

00:29:53.000 I've heard the argument, well, you can't because it's users who compile all of this.

00:29:57.000 And I'm like, okay, let's break down that standard real quick.

00:29:59.000 Let me, let me, let me, let me break down what you're telling me.

00:30:01.000 You're telling me that if I create an automatic process by which I will publish your articles under my name, I cannot be sued for defamation?

00:30:11.000 So if I get 10,000 people right now to all add one word, no one can be sued. 0.99

00:30:17.000 That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. 0.99

00:30:19.000 Think about this. 1.00

00:30:20.000 You could create a blank wiki titled, um, Nancy Pelosi.

00:30:25.000 And then give everyone who logs in the ability to add one word based on the line.

00:30:30.000 Let's do it.

00:30:30.000 Let's build this.

00:30:31.000 I'm not even kidding.

00:30:32.000 Here's what we'll do.

00:30:33.000 Let's develop a program where as soon as you load the browser, it knows you're here, a cookie or something, so you get one word to add based on your position in line.

00:30:46.000 You're the first person in, you get to add the first word.

00:30:49.000 Haggard.

00:30:50.000 Second person can add the second word.

00:30:51.000 High heel shoes.

00:30:52.000 Oh, that's too many words.

00:30:54.000 No one could be sued for defamation if what ends up getting written by 5,000 people is, Nancy Pelosi eats dog.

00:31:00.000 If that was actually what was written, who are you gonna sue?

00:31:03.000 Nobody wrote it.

00:31:05.000 Try suing five, nope, I only wrote one word.

00:31:08.000 You can't sue me for writing one word, can you?

00:31:09.000 This is nonsense.

00:31:11.000 The person who made the platform that allows it to go out needs to be responsible, especially if Wikipedia is putting from Wikipedia under every article.

00:31:20.000 But every time I talk to a lawyer, I hear the same thing.

00:31:23.000 Well, you can't because of statute.

00:31:26.000 Okay, get a precedent.

00:31:27.000 Because certainly, if it's true that you can't sue Wikipedia or Twitter or any of these platforms, then there is no longer any civil tort or defamation clause.

00:31:38.000 None of it.

00:31:38.000 None of it exists.

00:31:39.000 There's no defamation.

00:31:40.000 You know what?

00:31:40.000 I want to defame somebody.

00:31:42.000 I'm just going to be like, here's an open forum.

00:31:44.000 Here's what we could do on TimCast.com.

00:31:46.000 We'll open up a comment section.

00:31:48.000 Anybody can write whatever they want in the comments, and then we'll just take them all and paste them as a front page article.

00:31:52.000 Nice.

00:31:53.000 And whatever, and we'll grab a random user, and we'll use their sentence as the headline, and here's the best part.

00:31:59.000 Only 10 people will be granted special access to do so, like Wikipedia.

00:32:03.000 Wikipedia has special editors who are allowed to lock and unlock pages and have higher tiers.

00:32:08.000 They're given special editing privileges, but that still is defamation proof.

00:32:12.000 Okay.

00:32:14.000 Well, let's make that and see what happens.

00:32:15.000 Here's my suggestion.

00:32:16.000 Let's build a system.

00:32:18.000 Here's how it works.

00:32:20.000 It is blank.

00:32:21.000 The first person to log in gets the first word.

00:32:24.000 Every time you load it, you'll be placed in line behind someone else.

00:32:27.000 And if they don't write a word, then after 15 seconds, their position expires.

00:32:32.000 Then you move up and you can add your next word and then someone else can add the next word.

00:32:35.000 And then you just get 50,000 people who all add one word to the great news article that is, I don't know, Nancy Pelosi or Taylor Lorenz or whatever.

00:32:42.000 And then they can't do anything about it.

00:32:44.000 And then we'll put it on Times Square billboard.

00:32:46.000 Okay, well, first of all, that just sounds insanely fun.

00:32:48.000 I really want to do that.

00:32:50.000 And the second thing is that this is an incredibly big loophole that apparently no one else is taking advantage of, and I think that we should absolutely do something like this.

00:32:57.000 Wikipedia is taking advantage of it.

00:32:59.000 That's all Wikipedia is.

00:33:01.000 Now, there have been a lot of lawsuits against Wikipedia, and I guess what happens is two things.

00:33:05.000 They just settle right away.

00:33:07.000 And when you settle, typically a judge is not going to intervene.

00:33:11.000 He's going to be like, you won.

00:33:12.000 It's over.

00:33:13.000 In fact, some judges might be like, you must settle.

00:33:15.000 We're not going to court with this.

00:33:17.000 And then if, if Wikipedia comes to you and says, how much do you want?

00:33:21.000 And you say, here's my damages.

00:33:23.000 They'll just be like, okay, done.

00:33:24.000 Bye.

00:33:24.000 Have a nice day.

00:33:24.000 We win.

00:33:26.000 You know, talking about the technological freight train that is social media and the current media ecosystem, I mean, what you're talking about with Wikipedia really is the same sort of thing that you see with the New York Times, Washington Post, when they use unnamed sources, where they say such-and-such said this, and, you know, people's lives have been destroyed by that so many times.

00:33:47.000 people's reputations have been completely sullied because once you put

00:33:51.000 out a story that says an unnamed source said this or just simply this person

00:33:55.000 accuses this person of being a racist or a rapist or whatever once that's out

00:33:59.000 there and they know this that's what's going to be in the public consciousness

00:34:02.000 so I mean Wikipedia is one fine example but I would say that the entire media

00:34:08.000 ecosystem is it exemplifies how quickly disinformation spreads and how little

00:34:15.000 accountability there is.

00:34:17.000 Basically zero.

00:34:18.000 I don't think that you're ever going to be able to stop wrong information.

00:34:22.000 No.

00:34:22.000 The issue is when it's completely automated or when you wield institutional power behind statute.

00:34:29.000 So Twitter's position of, we're going to censor things that we deem to be wrong.

00:34:33.000 I'm like, okay, listen.

00:34:35.000 If you as a platform... I'm just gonna say it.

00:34:37.000 If your position is that you pick and choose what content is seen or not, I don't care if a random person writes it.

00:34:47.000 If you decided... So this is not the standard.

00:34:49.000 A lot of conservatives think the standard for 230 is you're either a platform or a publisher.

00:34:52.000 That's not the standard.

00:34:54.000 It should be the standard, and we'd be done.

00:34:56.000 then Twitter would be like, we're not editorializing anything anymore.

00:34:59.000 No more algorithms, because if we intervene in any way, all of a sudden now,

00:35:03.000 we assume liability for every statement ever. Good! That's how it should be. That's not how it is,

00:35:07.000 because of Section 230.

00:35:09.000 Well, you know, when I was talking about localism, regionalism, or, you know,

00:35:12.000 the kind of personal approach to combating any sort of corrupt system,

00:35:16.000 if you cultivate young people to be critical, to look at these things with at least a critical eye,

00:35:23.000 if not a cynical eye, you will have a generation that comes up that's simply not subject to it.

00:35:28.000 Unfortunately, I mean, the educational system is so eaten up with it.

00:35:31.000 I can remember even 15 years ago, Wikipedia was completely forbidden as a source to cite.

00:35:37.000 Now it's pretty much on the regular.

00:35:39.000 People are, you know, everything from undergrads, possibly up to the grad level, who knows, people are encouraged to seek out these sorts of We'll say homogenized conformist sources in the public, you know, in the public education system.

00:35:55.000 I really do think, though, that independent communities are everything from radical Catholics to, you know, radical hippies to just, you know, your average right-winger.

00:36:05.000 Both of us are here.

00:36:07.000 Yeah.

00:36:07.000 Your average, you know, right-winger with a pistol.

00:36:10.000 I think that there is this really deep cynicism and skepticism towards the mainstream right now, and if that can be latched on It will take time, but in time you will have a generation that comes up that's able to handle this.

00:36:23.000 That's able to get on top of it.

00:36:25.000 I just want to stress this real quick before moving on, just so people can think about it.

00:36:30.000 If you go on Wikipedia and you contribute to an article, say on Ian, and you write, you know, Ian once kicked a dog.

00:36:37.000 He's a radical hippie.

00:36:38.000 You have made a false statement against Ian.

00:36:41.000 He did not do that and it causes him damage.

00:36:43.000 All of a sudden he loses his sponsorship from a local, you know, dog pet, dog store or something.

00:36:47.000 Then he's like, I got damages and you lied about me and you know, you knew you lied.

00:36:51.000 You're going to get sued for that.

00:36:53.000 But if you go on with 10 friends and you write Ian and then your friend writes once and then someone random guy says

00:37:00.000 kicked.

00:37:00.000 Another person puts a, and another person puts a dog.

00:37:03.000 No one can be sued because no one made a statement.

00:37:05.000 That's the, that's, that is insane.

00:37:08.000 And I believe a judge would rule against that immediately.

00:37:11.000 That's what Wikipedia is.

00:37:12.000 You can go into Wikipedia and change a single word.

00:37:15.000 Someone will write, Ian once kicked a, uh, head of lettuce.

00:37:19.000 And then someone can change lettuce to dog.

00:37:22.000 Head of dog.

00:37:24.000 And they didn't say he did it.

00:37:25.000 They only wrote one word.

00:37:27.000 So who's responsible for defaming?

00:37:29.000 That's the problem with Wikipedia.

00:37:31.000 That's why I say they should not have Section 230 protections as it stands today, because it makes no sense.

00:37:37.000 Ten people all write one word, then all of a sudden no one said the phrase?

00:37:41.000 No, Wikipedia did.

00:37:42.000 Wait, you can't... It's just so dumb. 0.99

00:37:45.000 Like, that Wikipedia can automate the defamation process and then try and be absolved from it? 0.98

00:37:50.000 No, no, no.

00:37:50.000 If you're listening, and you feel like, you know, filing lawsuits, I think somebody needs to file a lawsuit.

00:37:55.000 I don't know.

00:37:56.000 Yeah, I think Wikipedia is amazing.

00:37:58.000 I use it almost every day sometimes.

00:38:01.000 But you're right.

00:38:03.000 Absolutely right about that.

00:38:04.000 Just think about what a person could do.

00:38:07.000 Someone can write a long sentence saying, you know, James O'Keefe is a journalist and scholar.

00:38:15.000 And then someone can go in and just change journalist to dog puncher.

00:38:21.000 I tried that.

00:38:22.000 I didn't say it about him.

00:38:23.000 I just changed one word.

00:38:24.000 After Hillary Clinton's emails came out, 2016 or so on, thereabout, I tried to go into Wikipedia and change it and be like, her emails implicated Sidney Blumenthal, you know, Osprey Global Solutions, setting up shop in Libya, and immediately within like 10 seconds it was removed.

00:38:38.000 So I don't know who's in charge, who's overseeing it.

00:38:40.000 It was true stuff that I was looking at.

00:38:42.000 Look up, you know, Hillary Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal, Osprey Global Solution emails, you'll find it.

00:38:46.000 I mean, there's definitely a slant there, obviously.

00:38:51.000 One of the guys who helped form Wikipedia pointed this out, that when it was formed under the ideals of community contributions, creating this amazing platform, they were sincere.

00:39:03.000 Wikipedia used to be a lot better.

00:39:05.000 I was never a huge fan, but it used to be a lot better.

00:39:07.000 Now, it's clear there's a huge ideological shift.

00:39:11.000 You could probably say, you know, it's almost homogenized.

00:39:15.000 Look at any far-left figure.

00:39:17.000 Show me a place where a far-left figure has been in any way demeaned or defamed.

00:39:22.000 I'm not aware of them.

00:39:24.000 It's all towards the right.

00:39:26.000 And the reason being, clearly, is that leftists knew where to go a decade, decade and a half ago to gain power.

00:39:33.000 And that's in the media.

00:39:34.000 I'll actually, I'll attest to that, too, because my Wikipedia page is fairly tepid.

00:39:39.000 It's not really that bad.

00:39:41.000 And that's an interesting indicator.

00:39:43.000 You know, I'm a fairly moderate person, so they're like, you know, but if you're right wing, they write all of the worst possible things about you.

00:39:48.000 Absolutely.

00:39:49.000 With no consequence whatsoever.

00:39:51.000 So something's got to be done about that.

00:39:52.000 Let's let's talk about other signs of the apocalypse instead of just defamation.

00:39:56.000 We got the story from Fox Business.

00:39:58.000 Biden considers tapping emergency diesel reserve with prices near record high.

00:40:02.000 Yes, you may have seen the story that there's going to be a diesel shortage, that diesel is at, what, $6 a gallon?

00:40:09.000 People who drive trucks are saying it's costing them $1,000 to fill up, so they don't even know if they want to do the job anymore.

00:40:14.000 And then you have, over and over again, these memes, particularly from people on the left, saying it's not Biden's fault.

00:40:19.000 Biden can't do anything about gas prices.

00:40:21.000 It's the greedy corporations.

00:40:23.000 I gave you this from, this is from May 19th, only a few days ago, but you absolutely got to listen to it.

00:40:29.000 This is Josh Hawley.

00:40:30.000 Oh, is our audio right?

00:40:32.000 Oh yeah, it never is, is it?

00:40:34.000 It's because I listen to music before the show.

00:40:36.000 That's right.

00:40:37.000 Secretary Granholm, today in the state of Missouri, the average price of gasoline today, as of this morning, is $4.10.

00:40:45.000 The average price of diesel is $5.18.

00:40:47.000 Average price of diesel is $5.18.

00:40:52.000 And I'm sure you've seen the reporting this morning that now AAA is projecting that gas

00:40:58.000 prices will hit a national average, average of $6 a gallon by the month of August.

00:41:05.000 Is this acceptable to you?

00:41:07.000 No, it is not.

00:41:08.000 And you can thank the activity of Vladimir Putin for invading Ukraine and pulling those barrels.

00:41:15.000 Oh, nonsense. 0.64

00:41:16.000 With all due respect, Madam Secretary, that's utter nonsense.

00:41:19.000 In January of 2021, the average gas price in my state was $2.07.

00:41:23.000 Eight months later.

00:41:26.000 Eight months later, long before Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine, that price was up over 30%, and it has been going up consistently since.

00:41:35.000 What are you doing to reverse this administration's policies that are drawing down our own supply of energy in this country, that are throttling oil and gas production in the United States of America?

00:41:47.000 What are you doing about it?

00:41:48.000 I suspect, sir, it is not administration policies that have affected supply and demand.

00:41:53.000 How can you say that when the price of gas was up over 30% from January to August?

00:41:58.000 Answer my questions.

00:41:59.000 And it's my time, Madam Secretary, so why don't you answer my question.

00:42:03.000 From January to August, the price of gasoline was up over 30%.

00:42:06.000 In my state alone, it has been a continuous upward tick since then.

00:42:12.000 And here's what your president did when he first came to office.

00:42:16.000 He immediately re-entered the Paris Climate Accord.

00:42:18.000 He cancelled the Keystone Pipeline.

00:42:20.000 He halted leasing programs in Anwar.

00:42:22.000 He issued a 60-day halt on all new oil and gas leases and drilling permits on federal lands and waters.

00:42:29.000 That's nationwide.

00:42:30.000 That accounts, by the way, for 25% of US oil production. He directed federal agencies to

00:42:36.000 eliminate all supports for fossil fuels. He imposed new regulations on oil and gas and methane

00:42:42.000 emissions. Those were all just in the first few days. Are you telling me that's had no effect on our

00:42:47.000 energy supply?

00:42:48.000 So, yeah, I think it's fair to say that he very much listed the policy changes that have impacted

00:42:54.000 the price of gas.

00:42:55.000 And can I just point out something I think common sense?

00:42:59.000 When you have a political party that has been screaming climate change and carbon emissions, do you think they're the party that's going to get you cheap gas?

00:43:08.000 I mean, no.

00:43:10.000 If you are someone who is also worried about climate change, you're probably happy that Joe Biden did those things.

00:43:15.000 The repercussions are regular working-class people aren't going to be afforded to drive, food prices are going to skyrocket, there's going to be shortages of diesel, and if we have to tap into these strategic reserves, I wonder, considering the fertilizer shortage already, what's food going to look like this fall when the harvest comes and ain't nothing coming through? 1.00

00:43:33.000 Winter is coming, my friends.

00:43:36.000 When they try and claim it's Vladimir Putin who did this, here's what I hear.

00:43:40.000 I hear them saying, we did this and we're glad we did this, but we don't want you yelling at us because we're going to do it more.

00:43:50.000 So we need a scapegoat.

00:43:52.000 So yeah, get ready for it.

00:43:53.000 It's going to get worse.

00:43:54.000 Yeah, the fertilizer situation is really critical.

00:43:57.000 Already you see, obviously what's happening in the Ukraine has really just shut off all that grain.

00:44:04.000 And then India, of course, they've cut off their exports.

00:44:08.000 And you really have to wonder in the long run, and when I say the long run, I mean in the next year or two, where we're going to be.

00:44:16.000 Because if you don't have the fertilizer, and if you have an industrial farming system, right?

00:44:20.000 The petroleum-based fertilizers are essential to the food supply.

00:44:27.000 You don't have food.

00:44:28.000 The only thing you then have are stores.

00:44:30.000 Now, I think America will be okay.

00:44:31.000 I think, you know, most of Europe will be okay.

00:44:34.000 They'll hurt.

00:44:35.000 But in the third world, it will be crushing.

00:44:36.000 It already is.

00:44:37.000 I mean... It's Sri Lanka.

00:44:39.000 Yeah, and there's politics involved in that.

00:44:41.000 Right.

00:44:42.000 Some of their policies and stuff.

00:44:43.000 But it is already affecting many other places as well.

00:44:46.000 I think the U.S.

00:44:47.000 will be okay.

00:44:49.000 But you ain't gonna be happy.

00:44:50.000 No, and when you have unhappy people, and you have a whole lot of guns, and you have a whole lot of anger, things happen.

00:44:55.000 Look at the baby formula situation.

00:44:58.000 Now we're importing, and it's just so laughable how people defend Joe Biden.

00:45:03.000 Like, look, he's solving the problem.

00:45:04.000 It's like, bro, you don't get credit for solving the problem you made.

00:45:08.000 If you spill milk on my floor, I'm not going to congratulate you when you mop it up.

00:45:12.000 I'm going to be like, please don't do that again.

00:45:14.000 Mopping it up was the least you can do.

00:45:17.000 This is what we're dealing with now with the you're gonna get angry people, you know, like babies is bad enough

00:45:23.000 But I think we're gonna see a lot of shortages. Yeah, I saw an article that said that uh, you can

00:45:28.000 Take uh methane and break it into hydrogen and graphene So there are ways out of this but I people are so hooked on

00:45:36.000 the short-term oil For whatever reason we have been for the last 40 years of

00:45:41.000 my life 43 years. I don't I don't know It's always like, just two years away, just five years away, just like, what are we waiting for?

00:45:49.000 It's real simple.

00:45:51.000 We built a world on oil.

00:45:53.000 We are now standing on the pillars of fossil fuels.

00:45:57.000 That's why we need them.

00:45:58.000 You can't just take that away because then your tower will fall.

00:46:03.000 And that fall is going to kill a lot of people.

00:46:05.000 So what can we do?

00:46:07.000 I mean, slow changes, build new infrastructure to hold up our civilization with alternate energies, nuclear power sounds like a great idea. 0.85

00:46:15.000 I'm a big fan of renewables, tidal energy, geothermal, all really great.

00:46:19.000 Instead, it just seems like the people who are deeply concerned about climate change, and they're allowed to.

00:46:25.000 I think climate change is an issue.

00:46:27.000 I think pollution is an issue.

00:46:28.000 I think dead zones are an issue.

00:46:29.000 But it's... I think the real argument here...

00:46:34.000 Is human experience versus non-human experience.

00:46:38.000 That is to say, if you were to just shut off the oil right now like Greta Thunberg wants and just kill 60 some odd million people, because all of a sudden, I mean, as I have to mention, diabetics are the first to go when the power goes out. 0.98

00:46:49.000 Then it's, you know, no food, no transport, no heating.

00:46:53.000 So you really are just the people who are vulnerable, just 60 million I think is the estimate.

00:46:58.000 You can do that.

00:47:00.000 But the human experience is why we're here.

00:47:02.000 So you have these two trains of thought.

00:47:04.000 One, that it doesn't matter what humans perceive, think, want.

00:47:07.000 Human perception is irrelevant.

00:47:08.000 Therefore, let's just stabilize the ecosystem and, you know, that results in how many people dead.

00:47:13.000 Then you have people who are like, okay, look, you know, we can be better stewards of this planet while recognizing that we are humans, we perceive things in a human way, and we want to protect human life and what brings us joy.

00:47:24.000 In which case, yeah, just this utilitarian kill as many people as possible for the sake of reducing carbon doesn't work.

00:47:30.000 Well, you know, I differ with many of those on the right on this topic.

00:47:34.000 I do think that, obviously, our job as humans is to survive, right?

00:47:39.000 That's the core.

00:47:41.000 Other than salvation, let's say, the essential task of the human being is to survive.

00:47:46.000 But in the last 150-200 years, the absolute destruction on the environment that has been wrought primarily through technology can't be ignored.

00:47:55.000 And while I think climate change is somewhat of a red herring, it's dubious as to whether or not the evidence backs up the theory, and ultimately it's a kind of slow-moving thing.

00:48:05.000 What we do have in our faces right now, as you say, pollution, the dead zones, but really habitat loss, particularly like in the Amazon or in Africa, which is driven primarily by China at this point, but also the species loss.

00:48:17.000 I mean, once they're gone, they're gone.

00:48:19.000 And I think that the reason that radical environmentalists are so passionate about this, and I feel very much in the same way, is that we are at a critical point.

00:48:29.000 Just because there's trees everywhere doesn't mean you have an old ecosystem, right?

00:48:34.000 You look at the Appalachian mountain range, all of that's new growth.

00:48:38.000 All of it.

00:48:39.000 It was cut down, sometimes twice, 100, 150, 200 years ago.

00:48:44.000 250 years ago.

00:48:45.000 So what you have now, all over the earth, what is still green, is in the southern hemisphere.

00:48:51.000 And that's being rapidly eroded, again, primarily by China.

00:48:55.000 And I don't know what the way around it is, but I do think that the urgency, that's one reason I'm so frustrated by people like Greta Thunberg, right?

00:49:03.000 She's a joke. 0.99

00:49:04.000 It's hilarious to watch her.

00:49:05.000 She makes funny memes, that Swedish death metal meme. 0.93

00:49:08.000 Hilarious.

00:49:09.000 But it completely covers up the real critical issue that we are still, to this day, as we have for two centuries, destroying the natural environment and it's never coming back.

00:49:20.000 So we have to find some place in between.

00:49:23.000 But you know, as it's been pointed out by many on the right in America, for instance, you know, many of those in the Sierra Club who founded the Sierra Club, you could say, at least by today's standards, are very right wing, especially on issues of immigration.

00:49:37.000 But if you don't have a country, Right?

00:49:39.000 If it's no longer your country and you don't have harmony, you don't have cohesion, you don't have any way of exerting your will anymore, well then you're not going to save the environment and you're not going to save yourself.

00:49:50.000 So I do think that, again, starting local... I think the equation is actually fairly simple.

00:49:55.000 People scream climate change.

00:49:57.000 The World Economic Forum says you will own nothing, you will be happy.

00:50:00.000 The people who are claiming that the Earth is being destroyed are not the ones who are going to give you a good economy.

00:50:05.000 Absolutely.

00:50:06.000 Donald Trump gives us this roaring economy and growth that, you know, Obama said wasn't possible.

00:50:12.000 Yeah, well, growth means more kids, more kids means exponential growth.

00:50:15.000 So certainly the people who are like, climate change is destroying the planet, are not going to be happy that Donald Trump was doing that, right?

00:50:21.000 No.

00:50:21.000 So then, when Joe Biden, the Democrats, the party of climate change, gets into power, what are they going to do?

00:50:26.000 They're probably going to enact policies to reverse what Trump did, hurting people, but benefiting their ideology.

00:50:35.000 That is not a moral statement on climate change, what we should or shouldn't do on the environment.

00:50:39.000 It is a fact statement.

00:50:41.000 Joe Biden helping people, giving them a better economy, giving them cheap fuel meant they were going to eat.

00:50:47.000 It meant they were going to have children.

00:50:49.000 It meant these values are going to create more people.

00:50:52.000 If you are Bill Gates and you're like, we need less people, you're not going to be happy with Donald Trump, now are you?

00:50:58.000 You're going to want the opposite.

00:51:00.000 Unfortunately, the opposite means that for you at home, your milk costs $10, your gas is going to cost $10, and you're going to own nothing, and you're going to have to live with it.

00:51:10.000 You're not going to be happy, but that's what they want for you.

00:51:13.000 Yeah, so you made a point earlier about how people, especially people in developing countries, are really going to suffer from this.

00:51:19.000 And I remember when the lockdowns were first beginning, it was estimated, I believe by the IMF or the World Bank, that about 120 million people were going to be added to the category of being in extreme poverty as a result of COVID-19.

00:51:33.000 Though, of course, what they're referring to specifically were the lockdowns.

00:51:36.000 And we'll get into that euphemism in a moment.

00:51:39.000 We see this.

00:51:39.000 I've seen some sources that say after 2021 they updated that number to 100 million after they saw the effects it actually had.

00:51:47.000 And it's really sad because that group of people has been totally forgotten.

00:51:52.000 And they use this euphemism, as I mentioned, where they say, you know, 100 million people have been added or found themselves in extreme poverty because of COVID-19.

00:52:02.000 Well no, it's because of the lockdowns and the breakdown of the supply chain.

00:52:04.000 We know this.

00:52:05.000 Just look at the states in America which locked up and which didn't lock up.

00:52:08.000 We know you're going to have far more disastrous consequences for your economy if you do shut down over something like this.

00:52:13.000 And so, the left for years was claiming if you cut even a penny of what we intend to allocate towards welfare spending, hundreds and hundreds of people are going to die.

00:52:24.000 But then when it comes down to shutting down the global supply chain, Alright, let's go there.

00:52:29.000 that every developed country in the world plays in the global supply chain, well that's a risk

00:52:34.000 we're willing to take. And if it just saves one life, let's ignore the fact that many, many,

00:52:40.000 many people will die. All right, let's go there. The Independent says,

00:52:45.000 Donald Trump's civil war bombast is bad enough.

00:52:49.000 Democrats shouldn't help make it worse. 0.98

00:52:51.000 Oh, oh man.

00:52:52.000 From Noah Berlatsky, mocking someone for not being as tough as their rhetoric is not helpful if you want a public discourse that doesn't reward aggression.

00:53:00.000 So this is just one of the many articles that are saying Donald Trump's civil war bombast or Donald Trump calls for civil war, blah, blah, blah.

00:53:09.000 I love how they frame it.

00:53:10.000 They're shocked and angered that Donald Trump would discuss such a thing.

00:53:13.000 From May 11th, 2022.

00:53:16.000 The second American Civil War is already happening.

00:53:19.000 From Robert Reich.

00:53:20.000 Okay.

00:53:21.000 The conversation around Civil War is not just something Trump brought up.

00:53:24.000 Apparently what happened is that on Truth Social, someone referenced Naib Bakeli, I think is his name, the president of El Salvador.

00:53:32.000 He tweeted, a great nation like the U.S., you know, can't be brought down from the outside.

00:53:37.000 It has to be from the inside.

00:53:38.000 Someone then quoted that and said civil war.

00:53:41.000 Trump then retruthed it, which is their version of retweeting, which is terrible branding, by the way, but OK, let's live with it.

00:53:47.000 And now they're saying Trump called for civil war.

00:53:51.000 Trump, is this his first mention of Civil War?

00:53:55.000 Because this conversation has been happening for four years and it started with mainstream corporate press.

00:53:59.000 Well, it's not his first mention of the Civil War.

00:54:01.000 At least it might be, it might not be.

00:54:03.000 But it is the first time the media has ever twisted his words and made it sound like he said something completely different.

00:54:08.000 That's true.

00:54:09.000 We've never seen the media grasp at straws to make it seem as if he was saying something completely different than they could reasonably say based on his statement.

00:54:17.000 So is civil war possible?

00:54:18.000 Do you think it's possible?

00:54:19.000 I think it's happening.

00:54:20.000 It's always possible.

00:54:22.000 Probable?

00:54:24.000 I don't know.

00:54:24.000 I tend towards Majid Nawaz making a statement about World War III, that it would be a bunch of civil wars as well as a global war, a corporate war, neighbors on neighbors, information, all of it.

00:54:35.000 Let me tell you why I think it's happening and it's inevitable.

00:54:40.000 You need to understand what it means in the context of fourth and fifth generational warfare we often bring up.

00:54:45.000 It may not get to the point where people are fighting in the streets.

00:54:48.000 It may just be what we're experiencing.

00:54:50.000 Information warfare, lawfare, media manipulation.

00:54:54.000 In this modern era, do we need nuclear weapons when you have the power of propaganda?

00:54:58.000 Well, when I say civil war, I mean violence.

00:55:01.000 I mean... It's already happening.

00:55:03.000 To some extent.

00:55:03.000 I mean organized violence.

00:55:06.000 And not just Antifa rioters smashing up buildings and beating people up.

00:55:11.000 Not just psychopaths randomly shooting at people.

00:55:13.000 I mean organized violence.

00:55:14.000 A National Guard.

00:55:15.000 A governmental body.

00:55:16.000 Yes.

00:55:17.000 And, you know, I vacillate on this, right?

00:55:21.000 Sometime when I grew up, it seemed pretty inevitable, right?

00:55:24.000 In the 90s, it seemed pretty inevitable that the country was going to break apart.

00:55:28.000 There was so much hatred in the air, so much violence.

00:55:30.000 That was pretty much stamped out by the response to 9-11.

00:55:34.000 And all of that sort of foment was pushed down by the fear of the, you know, NSA or DHS picking you off, and it just went cold.

00:55:44.000 Now it's starting to get hot again, and I don't really see who would be the combatants in a clear way, right?

00:55:52.000 You could say, oh, it's going to be conservatives and liberals.

00:55:54.000 It's going to be the urban versus the rural.

00:55:56.000 What would that Civil War map actually look like?

00:55:59.000 I did get an insight on that, though, when I think it was NBC published a map of which states would pull back abortion rights and which ones wouldn't.

00:56:10.000 And I'm not saying that's a clear map of what the battle lines would look like in the Civil War, but I think that's a pretty good indication because you've got a sacred value there and I think that's what's pretty much behind most of this conflict is sacred values.

00:56:25.000 I think it's going to be fairly north and south.

00:56:27.000 I mean, for the most part, we're seeing abortion laws, like, it's northern and western states that are pro-abortion to an extreme degree.

00:56:35.000 Colorado, for instance, no restrictions.

00:56:37.000 And it's many of the southern states that are trying to implement restrictions on it.

00:56:40.000 So you may actually end up seeing this.

00:56:43.000 I'll reference the meme where it says the United States of Canada and what was it?

00:56:48.000 What was the other one?

00:56:49.000 The South was called like the Southern, the Christian States of America.

00:56:52.000 And then the North was the United States of Canada.

00:56:55.000 And it was like California, but then up and around like Nevada and then, you know, Midwest.

00:57:00.000 What people don't understand about the first Civil War, Texas, my understanding, joined just because of geography.

00:57:05.000 Texas was like, well, you know, we're basically locked in next to the Confederacy, and if we don't join them, what happens?

00:57:13.000 Who do we trade with?

00:57:15.000 How does this work?

00:57:15.000 If we're a U.S.

00:57:16.000 state or whatever?

00:57:17.000 So then basically, like, by virtue of geography, we're joining this new union or whatever.

00:57:22.000 I think the same thing would happen.

00:57:23.000 You will see more conservative states that don't want to align with Illinois, New York, and California, but be like, what choice do we have?

00:57:32.000 North Dakota and South Dakota will probably be roped up, whether they want to or not.

00:57:36.000 Their populations are so small, they may not have a choice.

00:57:39.000 That could split the country.

00:57:40.000 Honestly, I don't really know all too well exactly how to predict what would happen.

00:57:44.000 Civil wars like the U.S. 0.95

00:57:46.000 Civil War are rare.

00:57:47.000 In fact, I'm not sure there have been other civil wars exactly like it, where multiple jurisdictions split, you know, between North and South.

00:57:54.000 The Spanish Civil War, for instance, was pockets of urban and rural areas.

00:57:57.000 So we may actually just see that, and you will see, I mean, New York's got a massive urban police force, tens of thousands of people.

00:58:06.000 But I think what people, what you need to understand right now about what's going on is Geographic hyperpolarization is happening and will be exacerbated by the Supreme Court's ruling on Roe v. Wade and Casey.

00:58:18.000 You're going to get, as you already are, conservatives in liberal areas fleeing, red states becoming redder, blue states becoming bluer, and then eventually, we just completely disagree on everything, refuse to cooperate, and then what happens when Nevada puts up a border between California or something, because they're like, you allow illegal immigrants, we don't, so we're building a border between states.

00:58:39.000 These are the kind of things that precipitate major conflict.

00:58:42.000 Or how about monkeypox?

00:58:44.000 It spreads, and then all of a sudden one state says, we're enacting border checkpoints between states so we can keep out certain illnesses, like we saw with COVID, actually, with Connecticut and New York.

00:58:53.000 You guys are big on Jonathan Haidt's Moral Foundations.

00:58:57.000 I've heard you talk about it.

00:58:59.000 Let's just take his theory for granted, right?

00:59:02.000 That human societies evolved so that they diversify naturally towards a conservative leaning and a liberal leaning.

00:59:10.000 The conservatives obviously are holding down the traditions, liberals are pushing society forward, and it's through that symbiosis that society goes forward, right?

00:59:18.000 Forward isn't the right word.

00:59:19.000 When I say forward, I mean in a more adaptive direction, right?

00:59:23.000 So according to Height's theory, what you're talking about is humanity essentially as certain pockets of superorganisms in which having that variety, having the variety of foundations to draw from in any given problem, to face any given dilemma, you have a much greater chance of solving it because of this diversity of perspective, right?

00:59:46.000 If we take that for granted, what's happening now with this big sort in the U.S., and what's been happening really for decades, but in the last 10 years it's been extreme.

00:59:58.000 In his theory, you're basically peeling the human organism apart.

01:00:01.000 You're creating something that's profoundly new, that's never really existed before.

01:00:06.000 We're in completely uncharted territory, if that's the case.

01:00:08.000 Now, most of my conservative friends listen to that and it's like, oh, well, that's just a way to legitimize liberal points of view and push them on to me.

01:00:15.000 Liberals love it because it's all airy-fairy and we can all be together.

01:00:19.000 But I honestly, I think that the COVID pandemic showed a real flaw in his theory.

01:00:25.000 Because him and Jesse Graham, by the way, Jesse Graham deserves a huge amount of credit, but the idea that liberals skew primarily towards care and fairness and conservatives towards authority, in-group preference, and purity and sanctity.

01:00:42.000 I think on the surface that makes sense.

01:00:44.000 But when you look at what happened during COVID, you get a really good example of how flawed that is because liberals really did circle the wagons.

01:00:52.000 And their sense of what is pure and what is tainted or what is polluting really kicked on.

01:01:00.000 So whatever real distinctions there are to be made there long term, I think that did show a real flaw.

01:01:07.000 And Haidt actually admitted that.

01:01:09.000 So, what I see happening is you have this left wing and right wing, and as you mentioned, you know, the right, the conservatives are holding back the left from going too crazy, but the left does bring about some changes.

01:01:20.000 What happened is there was a weird budding phenomenon where the left started to have a growth of some sort that was ignored, and then eventually the growth just got big and flopped off and now is completely separate from the U.S.

01:01:32.000 body.

01:01:33.000 So, you know, in this room we've had actual liberals And conservatives talk and disagree on a bunch of core issues, as you describe it.

01:01:42.000 But the modern left in this country is separate.

01:01:44.000 The traditional left, as you describe it, as pulling us forward, is considered right-wing now, because that weird budding phenomenon is slopped off and now is no longer connected to the existing infrastructure.

01:01:56.000 That is the rise of the multicultural democracy within the United States versus the constitutional republic. 0.69

01:02:01.000 It's being fed, it's being given sugar, and it's growing, and eventually it will either burst and break, Or it will consume the, you know, Constitutional Republic side of things.

01:02:12.000 I think it'll probably burst because these people have no logic behind what they do.

01:02:17.000 It's wild tribal nonsense and they won't be able to adapt properly. 1.00

01:02:22.000 They're not going to be able to survive.

01:02:23.000 It really is.

01:02:24.000 If they are the most extreme element of change and no tradition, tradition involves things like growing food.

01:02:32.000 They don't know how to do this.

01:02:34.000 If you look at that meeting with the DSA, where they're like, Hi, my name is John.

01:02:37.000 He, him.

01:02:38.000 I just want to say that, you know, please stop misusing gendered pronouns for the group.

01:02:42.000 You saw that thing that went viral?

01:02:44.000 No.

01:02:44.000 The DSA meeting, everyone's freaking out.

01:02:46.000 They can't stop fighting because they're like, you know, someone says, Guys, please stop clapping.

01:02:52.000 You're triggering my anxiety.

01:02:54.000 And then a trans person goes, Stop using gendered language! 0.85

01:02:57.000 And they're all yelling at each other.

01:02:58.000 And it was just, it was crazy.

01:03:01.000 That's never gonna function as a system of governance.

01:03:03.000 Those people will not be able to grow food for themselves.

01:03:06.000 Don't you think they're puppets, though?

01:03:08.000 I mean, do you really think that the people... That's not relevant.

01:03:11.000 I mean, if you have 8 million people in this country who believe that, they're not going to survive a long fall.

01:03:19.000 Sure, no, but I mean, they're being held up.

01:03:21.000 Clearly, to me, I think they're just weaponized malcontents, right?

01:03:27.000 They're not the entire, especially with the trans movement.

01:03:30.000 I mean, this is not something that was, you know, grassroots from them.

01:03:35.000 You know, they pushed their way into the public square.

01:03:39.000 The left used them as a weapon against the right.

01:03:42.000 And it shows, I think, in many ways how devolved we are as a culture that they got as much traction as they did.

01:03:48.000 Something as ridiculous as pronouns and whether or not one is being misgendered As being some kind of key issue for the nation, I think that they're using these people to hammer on us.

01:04:00.000 We're not talking about right now. 0.79

01:04:01.000 We're talking about a collapse, a conflict, civil war.

01:04:05.000 They can't exist.

01:04:06.000 Sure, no. 0.91

01:04:07.000 Definitely, if it collapses, every transgender person on earth will immediately start to detransition and things will get real ugly for them. 1.00

01:04:13.000 Not by choice.

01:04:14.000 No.

01:04:14.000 you're not going to have access to elective surgeries or medication, but it's not even about

01:04:19.000 trans, it's about the entirety of the left moral framework has no merit.

01:04:25.000 The left in this country doesn't understand concepts of merit or logic.

01:04:29.000 Now, I'm not saying literally every single one of them, but if you look at their thought leaders,

01:04:34.000 we had a tweet that went viral from Hassan, who is the most prominent left-wing streamer,

01:04:40.000 and he said something about capitalism, that there's only four companies that produce baby

01:04:43.000 formula and that was a non sequitur. That idea makes no sense.

01:04:48.000 It's not capitalism's fault that there's only four baby formula companies.

01:04:52.000 It is not four baby formula companies' fault that there's no baby formula.

01:04:56.000 And there's not no baby formula because there's only four companies.

01:04:58.000 It's a nonsense statement.

01:05:00.000 If that's going to be the prominence of thought, they're not going to actually solve the problem of baby formula.

01:05:07.000 So, if everything did go belly up into Civil War or whatever, most farmers, probably conservative, I could be wrong about that, but... No, absolutely.

01:05:16.000 Right.

01:05:17.000 Most conservatives live in rural areas, meaning they likely have, on a scale of 1 to 100, the 100 being you are a prepper outdoorsman who can build a hut from trees in a day, and 1 being you are absolute city folk.

01:05:34.000 If you're a conservative, you're leaning towards outdoorsmanship.

01:05:38.000 So just living out here in West Virginia, I know what I can eat outside.

01:05:42.000 A little bit.

01:05:43.000 I'm not gonna pretend to be any kind of prepper outdoorsman at all.

01:05:47.000 But I know when the food, I know when the wineberry season is, I know when the pawpaw season is.

01:05:50.000 I talk about it all the time.

01:05:51.000 Hey, I know where to get some food.

01:05:53.000 I know where the turkeys are.

01:05:54.000 I know what the animals are around here.

01:05:55.000 I know where the bears are.

01:05:56.000 I know where the deer are.

01:05:58.000 You live in a city, Let's say the store closes.

01:06:01.000 What do you eat?

01:06:01.000 Where do you get food?

01:06:02.000 You have no idea!

01:06:03.000 Even if you leave the city, you're gonna be like, now I'm in a random rural place, what do I do?

01:06:08.000 Well, unfortunately for you, you're gonna have to go out probably a hundred miles before you get to... Even if you go a hundred miles, you're in owned territory.

01:06:16.000 So if you live in the middle of nowhere, if you live outside of the suburbs, you're more likely to be conservative.

01:06:21.000 You're more likely to know what to eat, where to eat, where to get water.

01:06:24.000 You live in a city, you got none of that.

01:06:25.000 So good luck.

01:06:26.000 Yeah, you know, having lived in Boston, Portland, and, you know, reared in Tennessee and now living in Montana, I can tell you right now who's going to win that conflict.

01:06:34.000 Right?

01:06:34.000 I can tell you right now who's going to last if things go belly up.

01:06:37.000 Do we need BuzzFeed when, you know, if the economy crumbles?

01:06:41.000 I don't think we need them now, but definitely not then.

01:06:43.000 Top 10 annoying things that happen when you farm.

01:06:47.000 The joke I made to the, uh, the, we have like a plot of land far away.

01:06:52.000 I don't want, I won't say too much, but there's, um, recreational communities that double as like in the event of an emergency come out.

01:07:00.000 And I always tell them like, don't worry guys.

01:07:02.000 When, when it hits the fan and everything goes crumbling, if you need someone to complain about stuff, I'll be there.

01:07:07.000 That's the job I can do.

01:07:08.000 Right?

01:07:08.000 No.

01:07:08.000 As soon as you show up, they're going to be like, start cutting wood.

01:07:12.000 And you're going to be like, yes, sir.

01:07:13.000 That's it.

01:07:14.000 You know, I think Montana, especially, being out there around all these survivalist types, such solid people.

01:07:20.000 You know, I mean, I don't want to name names, but there are a number of liberty coalitions that give me real hope for the country out there.

01:07:28.000 Because you have people that are salt of the earth, and they're also just completely independent of the system, should it come to that.

01:07:37.000 You know, you mentioned farmers, though.

01:07:39.000 We're down to, I think, maybe two or three percent of the U.S.

01:07:43.000 population is engaged in farming, at least on a professional level.

01:07:47.000 So, you're talking about a new elite, should things go belly up.

01:07:51.000 In the land with no food, the farmers are king.

01:07:54.000 I just drove through middle America on my way back here, and man, the farms are huge.

01:07:59.000 And I imagine they're owned by one guy, or whoever, a company, a small company.

01:08:02.000 Bill Gates, maybe?

01:08:03.000 Well, this is what I wonder.

01:08:05.000 It's so bizarre.

01:08:05.000 You mentioned that, you know, in an economic collapse or a land with no food, the farmers are king.

01:08:12.000 It's insane to me that we don't give those people more respect already.

01:08:16.000 I mean, they're already making all of our food.

01:08:18.000 It's not like that's only going to be the case once it collapses.

01:08:21.000 I thought it was a tragedy how Monsanto screwed those guys over with their glyphosate.

01:08:24.000 They give them these chemicals to put on their crops, and then they need to get their specific tailored herbicide that won't affect it, and then the next season they have to use it again because they can't get out of it.

01:08:35.000 Let's think about old feudalism.

01:08:37.000 You know, the lords and the kings would have all the land, and the peasants and the serfs would till the lands for them.

01:08:43.000 In the future, if there's a collapse, farmers got guns.

01:08:46.000 So, good luck.

01:08:47.000 You're gonna need comparable force to come in and take it over and try to establish something.

01:08:54.000 What about air power?

01:08:55.000 Because this is like, when I think about Civil War and we talk about borders, I'm like, rivers, mountains, but then I just think about bombers and stealth bombers.

01:09:01.000 What's that gonna do for you?

01:09:02.000 Well, how's it gonna change the game?

01:09:04.000 Because it's not 1865 now where a river's a big deal anymore.

01:09:08.000 I mean, it's still a little bit of a big deal.

01:09:10.000 Air power is great for taking out military installations, but not for occupying.

01:09:13.000 Artillery, too.

01:09:16.000 I don't think it's going to look like... You know what?

01:09:19.000 You know, I thought it wasn't going to look like the first Civil War until the abortion issue started becoming more prominent.

01:09:24.000 And people have brought up Lincoln's election, how that led to states seceding, the slave states.

01:09:30.000 And I'm like, what if we... Joe Biden's our Buchanan, basically. 0.99

01:09:34.000 A feckless, you know, pathetic leader. 0.99

01:09:37.000 You can't even call him that. 1.00

01:09:39.000 He's an occupier.

01:09:39.000 He's the guy who sits there and has the title.

01:09:42.000 So Trump gets elected, and then we see all the abortion states be like, we out. 0.86

01:09:47.000 So here's a potential thought I was having.

01:09:49.000 And again, this is wild speculation.

01:09:51.000 Roe and Casey are overturned.

01:09:54.000 Republicans propose federal restrictions on abortion or a bunch of red states start passing these bills.

01:10:01.000 The left gets angry.

01:10:03.000 Donald Trump says, when I get in, we are going to federally, you know, ban abortion.

01:10:09.000 That's what triggers a secession from blue states saying, nope, we're not going to allow that.

01:10:13.000 I wonder.

01:10:14.000 You know, I've heard it said, and I generally agree, that abortion has become really like the quintessential boomer issue. 0.93

01:10:21.000 I know that young people are also really passionate about it, but the real thrust of the abortion movement came in the 60s and 70s.

01:10:29.000 And now it's just this lingering thing.

01:10:31.000 I mean, I don't see banning abortion federally, but I do think that it's just one of many, many wedges that you see pushing people apart.

01:10:41.000 And again, it's a sacred value, so it's non-negotiable.

01:10:44.000 Let me ask you, Seamus, do you want to ban abortion at the federal level?

01:10:47.000 Yeah, I do.

01:10:48.000 Would you vote for people who would?

01:10:49.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:10:50.000 Do you think a lot of pro-life people would?

01:10:51.000 Yeah.

01:10:52.000 Yeah, I do.

01:10:52.000 And Joe Biden would veto it.

01:10:54.000 Donald Trump would then say, the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to sign the Save the Children Act or whatever they call it, because they're going to give it some name like that.

01:11:02.000 And the left is going to scream and be like, no.

01:11:03.000 I think it's LARPing.

01:11:05.000 Can I just mention one more point in response to you?

01:11:07.000 I disagree that this is a movement that's lost steam.

01:11:09.000 I actually think it's gained steam.

01:11:10.000 And according to Gallup, it has as well.

01:11:12.000 More people identify as pro-life than did in the 80s.

01:11:15.000 I'm talking about passion, not metrics, right?

01:11:20.000 We'll see what happens.

01:11:22.000 Hold on, look.

01:11:23.000 The Supreme Court may overturn Roe v. Casey, and all of these states have been enacting new bills to restrict abortion as it is.

01:11:33.000 It's more than I've ever seen in my life.

01:11:35.000 You know, I think Donald Trump's election is, you know, orders of magnitude more important as far as a social wedge.

01:11:42.000 This is one thing... No, no, but... Right, right, right.

01:11:44.000 Sorry to interrupt.

01:11:44.000 Yes.

01:11:44.000 But there's a strong moral catalyst in abortion that without... You know, Trump is the powder keg.

01:11:53.000 Abortion is the spark. 0.93

01:11:55.000 Perhaps.

01:11:55.000 We'll see what happens.

01:11:56.000 But I think that it's just one among many factors.

01:12:00.000 And I do, obviously, I mean, you see from the perspective of the War Room, you see these people.

01:12:04.000 These are people, again, most of the people that are War Room viewers are right-wing, salt-of-the-earth people, very, very passionate.

01:12:14.000 And I think that they see the battle lines drawn.

01:12:17.000 I think Steve Bannon has identified those battle lines and is able to articulate them in superb fashion.

01:12:23.000 To drive that forward, even with that though, you know, just seeing that passion firsthand.

01:12:28.000 I don't want to die on this hill, but I just think abortion has, it's so normal already in the culture, like the revolutionary spirit from the 60s and 70s has long since died away.

01:12:40.000 If it comes to something so extreme as a federal ban on abortion, yeah, that's going to spark things off.

01:12:45.000 But, you know, more than race issues, more than economic disparity, you know, more than the obvious corruption at the center of the system.

01:12:52.000 It's not about more, it's about needing a tribal issue to incite one tribe, one faction.

01:12:58.000 You know, going back to that map, I mean, clearly that map had an impact on me for a reason.

01:13:03.000 You do see Pretty, in stark terms, these zones of certain moral leanings.

01:13:11.000 Like I said, I don't want to die on that hill, but I do think that it will be a confluence of factors.

01:13:15.000 That's just one among many.

01:13:17.000 I hear you.

01:13:18.000 I still will.

01:13:19.000 Just to make one more point about this.

01:13:22.000 I think that you're right that it has been law for a very long time, but one interesting component of this issue is when you look at You know, gay marriage, for example, and I put marriage in air quotes there.

01:13:33.000 The Supreme Court decided upon that about 10 years ago, and now the culture is almost completely in lockstep with that entire agenda, whereas Roe v. Wade was decided roughly 50 years ago now, and they absolutely have not won the culture over, and in fact, it's gone in the opposite direction.

01:13:46.000 And having been to the March for Life and various pro-life events, I would just totally disagree that there is more passion behind this.

01:13:50.000 How many people were at the March for Life?

01:13:52.000 Oh man, let me double-check.

01:13:53.000 Let me double-check on that.

01:13:53.000 So all we do, we have this from the Guttmacher Institute.

01:13:56.000 Yeah.

01:13:56.000 They say if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe versus Wade, 26 states are certain or

01:14:00.000 likely to ban abortion.

01:14:01.000 This looks like a regional conflict.

01:14:04.000 So there was a poll of five regions.

01:14:08.000 You had the Northeast, you had the South, you had the Heartland, you had California,

01:14:13.000 and I think like the Mountain region or whatever, I don't know.

01:14:16.000 And they polled them all.

01:14:18.000 The West, the majority in favor of secession were Democrats at like 40-some-odd percent.

01:14:26.000 In the South, it was like 60% of Republicans wanted secession.

01:14:29.000 In the Northeast, it was mostly Democrat.

01:14:30.000 In the heartland, it was mostly independent voters.

01:14:32.000 I did the math!

01:14:33.000 I calculated the populations of every state and every region, broke down the percentages to get the actual number, and then correlate them to each other and found 37.2% of the United States was in favor of their specific region breaking off from the United States to form their own country.

01:14:49.000 37.2.

01:14:49.000 That is massive.

01:14:51.000 Wow.

01:14:51.000 So when you look at this from the Guttmacher Institute, You can see, if we do have a new civil war, it's not going to be North versus South.

01:14:59.000 It is going to be multi-factional, multi-regional.

01:15:02.000 Yeah, it'd be global.

01:15:04.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:15:05.000 Oh, I mean, you don't see Canada or Mexico in there.

01:15:06.000 You also don't see the Chinese nuclear submarines off the West Coast.

01:15:10.000 Like, what are we joking about here?

01:15:12.000 No, never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.

01:15:15.000 China's going to sit back and watch. 1.00

01:15:16.000 Yeah, of course!

01:15:17.000 I mean, it's a land grab if we go to war with ourselves.

01:15:21.000 Don't shred this place now.

01:15:24.000 It is interesting, though, that you point out not North vs. South.

01:15:27.000 Very roughly speaking, it looks almost like Coast vs. Center.

01:15:30.000 Look at the South!

01:15:31.000 Yeah, I mean, the Southeast is an exception, right?

01:15:33.000 Well, the South is the South.

01:15:36.000 It is kind of funny that the South is the side of trying to grant personhood, and the various Northern states, like New England, are the... deny personhood.

01:15:46.000 By the way, it's hard to find estimates on this.

01:15:47.000 I see one estimate saying roughly $150,000 worth of March for Life in D.C.

01:15:51.000 When I'm thinking about this abortion topic, it strikes me as like, I said LARPing earlier, because if it was real chaos and you were hungry and starving and the guy who was giving you food was aborting babies, no one's going to try and stop the guy because he's creating stability for you and your family.

01:16:07.000 It's only when you have enough money to start thinking about things and what that guy over there 100 miles away is doing that we start to Interfere with each other's rights.

01:16:16.000 I think you're wrong.

01:16:17.000 Or abilities.

01:16:18.000 I think in the event of a collapse, having children would be considered the most important thing ever.

01:16:23.000 And somebody was killing kids would probably be stopped.

01:16:26.000 It just depends on the situation.

01:16:28.000 Because if the guy, if there's a warlord in charge of your locale that is vicious, but he's making sure that you're going to stay alive, I've never had to face starvation.

01:16:37.000 I've heard it's, you know, life-altering, completely changes the way you look at reality.

01:16:41.000 Perhaps in the micro, but that civilization would cease to exist.

01:16:44.000 I don't know, man.

01:16:46.000 I mean, just think about it logically.

01:16:48.000 If there was a tribe of humans at any point that said, we are small and starving, but the guy who runs us wants women who are pregnant to not have kids, how long can they last?

01:16:58.000 Versus any other population that says, have more kids.

01:17:00.000 You know, it depends on the weaponry.

01:17:02.000 20 years, bro.

01:17:02.000 20 years.

01:17:03.000 20 years.

01:17:04.000 If you have 10 20-year-olds in group A and 10 20-year-olds in group B, So that's five couples each.

01:17:11.000 And one says, no kids!

01:17:12.000 The other says, everybody have kids.

01:17:14.000 Oh, they take slaves. 1.00

01:17:14.000 They invade. 1.00

01:17:15.000 If they have the weapons, the guy that wants to kill all the kids will... The liberals don't have the weapons, bro! 0.81

01:17:18.000 I'm not talking about liberals.

01:17:19.000 It could be anybody.

01:17:20.000 It could be any warlord.

01:17:21.000 My point is this.

01:17:23.000 You're adding things to it that are irrelevant to the point I'm making.

01:17:25.000 If you have two societies negating all external factors, and one says we're not having kids, or we're going to even take a slight 1%, 2%, 10%, 20%, we're going to reduce our population.

01:17:37.000 In 20 years, you know, group A that has five couples, each having two kids, has a new adult population, and group B that doesn't, doesn't have a new adult population.

01:17:46.000 They've aged, and now they're weak, and they're the ones who become the slaves.

01:17:49.000 It's a math problem, what you're doing.

01:17:51.000 But you're creating a situation that has no externality.

01:17:54.000 And in reality, people will fly in with B-52s from across the world and try and alter your equation.

01:18:01.000 I'm sure there's a million and one variables, but the point is, this is a factor.

01:18:05.000 If you don't have kids within 20 years, you have no fighting-age males.

01:18:08.000 Well, you just take slaves. 1.00

01:18:09.000 You can't, if you're 40 years old and a bunch of 20-year-olds raid your city.

01:18:13.000 Get it?

01:18:15.000 We're talking past each other.

01:18:16.000 Listen, listen.

01:18:18.000 The fact is, it is a simple fact statement, not a moral statement.

01:18:22.000 Societies that have more kids will have more fighting age men than societies that don't. 0.97

01:18:26.000 That's it.

01:18:27.000 You can have whatever you want.

01:18:29.000 Both sides are going to have bombers, both sides are going to have artillery, and one side's going to have more people.

01:18:33.000 More people means more likely to win, period.

01:18:35.000 Especially the fact that there are younger people.

01:18:37.000 The Romans had less people, but they took the Gauls out because they had better weapons and training. 0.63

01:18:42.000 So, right.

01:18:43.000 If you want to get specific, we can talk about who has the better weapons, but in the United States, conservatives tend to have the weapons and tend to have the kids, therefore the logic dictates conservatives.

01:18:50.000 If you want to get specific, conservatives are likely going to be the ones to win.

01:18:53.000 Yeah, I'm concerned about the militaries, not the civilians.

01:18:55.000 That's the real question.

01:18:56.000 I mean, you know, people have oftentimes said, well, most of the enlisted men in America are on the right, but the leadership seems to be signaling heavily to the left So people have oftentimes asked, who would fight for the

01:19:08.000 left in the Civil War?

01:19:10.000 And seemingly, it would be our own military, right?

01:19:14.000 But that would only be if the enlisted men followed orders, which I think is pretty unlikely

01:19:18.000 en masse. I think they would be crushed if they had tried, you know, say, post-insurrection

01:19:25.000 to actually deploy the military in a meaningful way against the U.S.

01:19:28.000 population, there would be a mass defection.

01:19:30.000 And I think that that same trend would hold forth.

01:19:33.000 I really do think that it's just a matter of, you've just got this ugly, corrupt growth.

01:19:38.000 I like your description of that, this growth that's kind of fallen off, but you do have this sort of cancer in the society that I don't think it's a matter of waiting it out.

01:19:46.000 But I do think that the base that is in opposition, we are far greater in numbers and In children, and in weapons.

01:19:54.000 It's just simply a matter of political will not to take them out, but to topple them and move forward.

01:20:00.000 So here's what I think we could see.

01:20:03.000 One day, for some unknown reason, a whole bunch of U.S.

01:20:08.000 National Guardsmen start shutting down bridges in a major city.

01:20:12.000 In and outside of New York, maybe.

01:20:14.000 Just say New York.

01:20:15.000 And then all of a sudden on CNN, they say there is an insurrection happening in New York.

01:20:21.000 Military has gone rogue.

01:20:24.000 They're taking over the city.

01:20:26.000 The reality is these are, let's say they're National Guardsmen, and they were ordered, we're going to be doing a drill.

01:20:33.000 We're going to need a couple of guys, you know, on each of these bridges.

01:20:36.000 It's the mission.

01:20:36.000 Here's the operation.

01:20:37.000 And they have no idea why they're doing it.

01:20:39.000 All of a sudden, the media claims they're Trump supporting insurrectionists.

01:20:43.000 Regular New Yorkers go on the bridge screaming in their faces, threatening them.

01:20:47.000 National Guardsmen have no idea what's going on.

01:20:49.000 They're just grunts.

01:20:49.000 They're low-level, you know, enlisted or whatever.

01:20:54.000 Being told to do this.

01:20:55.000 Here's why.

01:20:55.000 It's for security.

01:20:56.000 All of a sudden, regular people are screaming in your face.

01:20:58.000 All of a sudden, they're throwing rocks at you.

01:20:59.000 What do you do?

01:20:59.000 Do you defend yourself or no?

01:21:01.000 Then you have a national story.

01:21:04.000 Who do you believe?

01:21:05.000 What really happened?

01:21:06.000 Matt Taibbi wrote an interesting article where he said, eventually you get to the point where two different law enforcement vehicles are rushing and they pull up to the police station and they both jump out and they yell to the police chief, arrest that man, at each other.

01:21:20.000 And then what?

01:21:22.000 There was, uh, I think it was in Turkey.

01:21:24.000 A bunch of soldiers went on the bridge, the Bosphorus, and shut it down.

01:21:27.000 It was then reported that they were staging a coup!

01:21:30.000 They were then beaten, flogged, and dragged to the streets.

01:21:32.000 My understanding is that these guys had no idea what was going on and were just told to do it, and because they just blindly follow orders, they would.

01:21:38.000 But think about this.

01:21:40.000 If you're in the National Guard, or you know someone who is, think about how simple it is for your commanding officer to say, hey guys, we're gonna take these trucks, we're gonna be dropping off supplies, and then you get to a bridge and they're like, hey wait here one minute.

01:21:52.000 Nothing seems out of the ordinary when all of a sudden, you hear in the news, you were part of a coup and you had no idea.

01:21:58.000 You took weapons.

01:21:59.000 Or, you were occupying a bridge, you had no idea.

01:22:02.000 You were just told to do something normal.

01:22:04.000 So that's a real possibility that people need to understand when it comes to the military.

01:22:06.000 It's not about just following orders.

01:22:08.000 It's about... You're given normal orders!

01:22:11.000 Hey guys, we're doing a drill to prepare for terror.

01:22:13.000 We're going to be moving some vehicles.

01:22:15.000 There may be rides this summer.

01:22:16.000 And then all of a sudden you're on a street corner, and the media is claiming your staging has been taken over.

01:22:19.000 This is what I'm talking about.

01:22:21.000 I like getting away from the mud and looking at this from above because MSNBC is owned by Comcast.

01:22:27.000 Comcast is owned by Vanguard and BlackRock.

01:22:30.000 These are not American companies or not.

01:22:32.000 I mean, they operate outside of the law.

01:22:34.000 They own the MSNBC.

01:22:37.000 So in your experience, you've been studying the technocracy and these people that are moving.

01:22:42.000 Like, do you feel that they are pressuring us into some sort of conflict?

01:22:47.000 Look, there are many ways to imagine what your opponents are thinking or what their intentions are.

01:22:52.000 I try to avoid it as much as possible, but one thing is for certain is that they are sowing chaos within our population, and I think that the reasoning is pretty clear.

01:23:02.000 A chaotic population is much easier to control, and it does have the sense of being occupied by a foreign government, but it's a Sort of foreignness within our own system, right? 0.88

01:23:14.000 It's some alien mindset that has been birthed out of the West that is now occupying governments across the West. 0.78

01:23:21.000 You could call it leftist.

01:23:22.000 I honestly think it's a misnomer.

01:23:25.000 I think it's some combination of, you know, corporatism and technocracy that uses leftist talking points in order to push their agenda right now.

01:23:36.000 But it's the same types and oftentimes the same people who manipulated the right into invading the Middle East on the basis of very flimsy evidence that there was any kind of threat from either Muslim terrorists or from Iraq directly, right?

01:23:52.000 So I think that it At the core, and maybe I'm a carpenter hitting everything with my hammer, but I think at the core what we see and what we've seen rise over the last century, century and a half, is technocracy.

01:24:05.000 And that's the key principle.

01:24:07.000 It's the power of technology to control people and to control the environment.

01:24:13.000 And now, with transhumanism, this focus to control the inward self.

01:24:18.000 So who's in charge of creating, investing in, and deploying technology?

01:24:24.000 Obviously elites, both right and left.

01:24:27.000 Right now, primarily left.

01:24:29.000 And what is the ultimate effect?

01:24:31.000 It's about control.

01:24:32.000 But while you're being sold these technologies as a means for you to control either your own life or the environment that you're in, I think that the Really, the overriding dynamic is that technology has allowed, on an unprecedented scale, elites to manipulate and control the population below them.

01:24:51.000 So you talk about Comcast and BlackRock and all these different multinational corporations.

01:24:58.000 I think that at the core, the sway that they have right now, aside from their influence over or direct control over any kind of military or governmental body, is just simply the technology itself is able to cultivate a public mindset.

01:25:13.000 And that, again, it feels like an alien force coming in, but it's coming from within.

01:25:19.000 Do you meditate?

01:25:21.000 A bit.

01:25:21.000 Does it help?

01:25:22.000 Force?

01:25:22.000 Like help you discern what's real and what's not?

01:25:26.000 You know, I oftentimes question if I'm ever able to discern directly what's real and what's not, but I think what meditation does is it allows you to step back from what you perceive and what you think you know, and see it from a distance, and then come back and be able to act effectively.

01:25:41.000 I don't know whether or not anything I know is real, but I'm pretty sure.

01:25:46.000 But meditation, of course, is a wonderful way to calm the mind prayer.

01:25:50.000 Yeah, I do clear mind.

01:25:51.000 I had to forget.

01:25:53.000 You'll have no thoughts, and then all of a sudden you'll be thinking.

01:25:55.000 You'll remember that you're thinking.

01:25:57.000 You'll be like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to have no thoughts.

01:25:58.000 And then you have no thought again.

01:26:00.000 Then all of a sudden you have no thoughts for a second.

01:26:01.000 And then all of a sudden you're thinking again.

01:26:03.000 You're like, whoa, I got to stop that thought.

01:26:05.000 And then it gets longer and longer.

01:26:07.000 Then it's 20 seconds of no thought.

01:26:09.000 And man, maybe that's the answer.

01:26:13.000 There's no the answer, but I think for sure.

01:26:17.000 It helps you calm down.

01:26:20.000 Well, I think if you're going to try and say that regular people should be meditating to help calm down, you've got a cultural problem and you need to teach people at a young age.

01:26:28.000 And then we just come back to the same answer.

01:26:29.000 The answer is simple.

01:26:31.000 Have kids.

01:26:32.000 Teach your kids your values.

01:26:33.000 That's it.

01:26:34.000 And in 20 years, those kids will vote.

01:26:36.000 And if conservatives have more kids than liberals in 20 years, conservatives outnumber liberals in the vote.

01:26:41.000 And then the vote goes conservative.

01:26:42.000 We're seeing that right now.

01:26:45.000 Because we talk about it a lot.

01:26:46.000 In 2000, I pull up these studies.

01:26:48.000 Conservatives were having, I think, like .5 more kids than liberals were.

01:26:53.000 So conservatives were having replacement level children, 2.01.

01:26:56.000 Liberals were having like 1.5 or 1.4.

01:26:59.000 Twenty years later, slightly more conservatives.

01:27:02.000 Demographics or destiny, right?

01:27:04.000 That's it.

01:27:05.000 So that's why I say, if all these conservatives go out and have seven kids, in 20 years, for every two conservatives, you get seven votes, liberals are having no kids, and they're sterilizing their kids?

01:27:15.000 Wait till they get those artificial wombs, though. 1.00

01:27:18.000 Yeah.

01:27:19.000 I don't know if we can vote our way out of it.

01:27:21.000 You can, I mean, look.

01:27:23.000 One of the reasons that there is this kind of paranoia about population extermination, not just reduction, is that knowledge that, you know, the numbers are on the side, is on the side of the traditionalists, right?

01:27:35.000 Traditionalists across the world are continuing to have children, while liberals are living this very bizarre, and again, kind of alien lifestyle, this alien to the planet, It's completely new, completely novel, and completely unsustainable.

01:27:48.000 You know, for people that are obsessed with sustainability, the lifestyle that they've eked out for themselves won't last for long unless they can maybe perfect fusion and births out of artificial wombs.

01:27:59.000 Because you're absolutely right, they'll be swamped by the traditionalists.

01:28:02.000 You're talking about city life?

01:28:03.000 The bill that Democrats have tried to pass would allow for the termination of the baby up to nine months.

01:28:11.000 There's no reason for that unless you just don't want the baby to live.

01:28:14.000 Democrats are absolutely in favor.

01:28:16.000 Look, aside from the bill, you just look what Eric Adams said.

01:28:19.000 You look at what Matt Bender said when he came on the show.

01:28:21.000 It's like, do you believe a woman should ever have a right to an abortion, elective abortion, up to nine months? 1.00

01:28:25.000 Yes, the woman's choice. 0.96

01:28:26.000 Okay.

01:28:27.000 They don't care about artificial wombs. 1.00

01:28:29.000 If they want to have a kid, they'd have kids. 0.79

01:28:31.000 Artificial wombs are irrelevant to the abortion issue. 1.00

01:28:35.000 That was a half joke, obviously.

01:28:36.000 But the artificial wounds, it is a thing, right?

01:28:40.000 They are developing them.

01:28:42.000 They're developing them ostensibly for people who can't have children.

01:28:45.000 They're real.

01:28:47.000 And also women who don't want to alter their bodies with babies, right? 1.00

01:28:51.000 They've already grown, I think it was like a sheep or something?

01:28:53.000 Oh, absolutely, yes.

01:28:55.000 And they've got, you know, there's always an article coming out One of the latest is an AI powered incubator that they haven't used it on human cells, but that's the intention on human fetuses.

01:29:07.000 And basically it's, you know, and it's one of many gadgets such as this, but it would allow without direct human intervention, this device to modulate the temperature, modulate the nutrients in order to grow human fetuses first in smaller vats than in bigger vats.

01:29:24.000 You know, as much as I focus on technology and transhumanism, I think that you really have to distinguish between the intention and the actuality of any of these different paradigms or devices.

01:29:35.000 So, like, artificial wombs may or may not be a thing in 50 years, but I think that it really does cut to the heart of a sort of mentality What kind of person would dream up a world in which a seemingly normal family grew their baby in a vat and then raised it with chips in their heads and used artificial intelligence to surveil that child in order to find the perfect neurological base, right?

01:29:59.000 That mentality is, I think, really a spiritual orientation towards technology and against the human, ultimately.

01:30:08.000 It's not an enhancement.

01:30:10.000 It's an obliteration of humanity.

01:30:12.000 And I think that knowing that so many of these people have this anti-human sentiment deep in their hearts, it gives you a really deep sense of the spiritual corruption that we see in the country and really in the developed world as a whole.

01:30:25.000 In 30 years, Republicans will be transgender communists who are arguing for having artificial womb babies, and the left will be metaverse childless genetic clones or something. 0.78

01:30:39.000 And the conservatives are going to be like, can you believe how far left they've gone? 0.90

01:30:41.000 Right.

01:30:43.000 See, if we continue on that trajectory, though, I don't know if we make it another 30 years.

01:30:47.000 Unless we just roboticize ourselves and the machine just keeps cloning more, you know, metaverse people.

01:30:53.000 This is something that I really wrestle with a lot.

01:30:58.000 What are the possibilities of any of these really drastic, extreme ideas on human enhancement or, you know, having Universal smart cities, you know, having human beings with chips in their heads that are able to commune with artificial intelligence.

01:31:12.000 How likely is any of that?

01:31:14.000 And, you know, ultimately I come back to always, it really doesn't matter if everyone is addicted to a smartphone and you have sufficient surveillance so that, you know, kind of anarcho- an anarcho- tyranny situation where a certain subset of people are Surveilled to the point you can control their behavior and everything else that slips through the cracks.

01:31:34.000 Well, you have enough control over the centers of power They can go so I you know The idea of this bizarre science fiction universe where artificial wombs and the metaverse has completely taken over people's minds and all of that, I think it's really important to get an idea of what the point of reference of the society is, or at least that subset of the society.

01:31:57.000 But it's ultimately irrelevant, right?

01:31:59.000 You don't have to worry about artificial wombs if people who have the money are able to get surrogates. 1.00

01:32:05.000 To simply pay people to pimp out their wombs to have children.

01:32:09.000 I mean, that's already here.

01:32:11.000 Well, I think conservatives would want the artificial wombs to exist so that you can eliminate abortion.

01:32:17.000 Or infant mortality.

01:32:18.000 That's a pretty hilarious idea.

01:32:19.000 Well, right now there's a question about, you know, viability and terminating the life of a baby if it could survive on its own.

01:32:27.000 If the artificial womb exists, there's no argument for terminating the life of the fetus at any point.

01:32:32.000 Well, but you're talking about in extreme circumstances.

01:32:34.000 I think conservatives, by and large, oddly enough, have a very kind of Darwinian advantage in all of this, because conservatives really do value that man-to-woman relationship, long-term relationships, marriage, and having children in a natural way.

01:32:49.000 But they're trying really hard to stop the left from killing their babies.

01:32:53.000 Sure.

01:32:54.000 So, I don't know, Seamus, would you be in favor of artificial womb technology if it ended abortion? 0.85

01:32:59.000 So, it's an interesting question.

01:33:01.000 I need to give it some thought, but basically, artificial womb technology could be good if there were drastic cases where the child could not develop inside of the mother's womb.

01:33:10.000 I don't think it should be something that replaces normal gestation.

01:33:15.000 Well, obviously, right?

01:33:17.000 But if it's an argument of like, I'm just gonna remove this child because I'd rather they develop artificially, I imagine these artificial wombs would pose risks to the child that wouldn't be present. 0.81

01:33:27.000 What if right now... And they do, actually.

01:33:28.000 The ethics around artificial wombs... Hold on, I'm trying to ask a specific question.

01:33:33.000 If right now they said you cannot terminate the life of the baby because artificial wombs exist, you'd effectively end abortion? 0.86

01:33:39.000 Yeah, I'd have to think about that.

01:33:40.000 It's an interesting question.

01:33:41.000 It's not a question of whether someone wants to choose to put in a womb.

01:33:45.000 It's the idea that if right now abortion is legal in the first few weeks, depending on which state you're in, and then all of a sudden these states say, OK, well, you can end the pregnancy, but the baby can't be killed.

01:33:56.000 That's what an artificial womb would do. 1.00

01:33:58.000 I think you'd have the left being absolutely outraged because they're like, well, what if I can't afford to have a baby?

01:34:02.000 It's like, well, We'll grow it in our vat.

01:34:05.000 Right.

01:34:06.000 We'll hand it back to you or hand it to someone else.

01:34:07.000 The state will take it.

01:34:09.000 I do think it is probably one of the funniest things I've heard in a while, the conservative case for artificial wombs. 0.70

01:34:14.000 It wouldn't surprise me if you saw that in the National Review or something like that, Fox News.

01:34:19.000 But there are real ethical questions around all of these transhumanist technologies, but artificial wombs in particular, and it's mostly women making this argument, that relationship between a woman and the fetus in her womb isn't just an emotional relationship that the woman herself feels.

01:34:36.000 All of her chemicals, all of her hormones, All of her bio rhythms and, you know, on this more kind of spiritual plane perhaps, a direct kind of spiritual connection to this child dictates the type of baby that's going to be born.

01:34:53.000 So you, the idea that you're going to be able to recreate that in some sort of artificial womb is, I think, pretty absurd.

01:34:59.000 Yeah.

01:35:00.000 And also needless because you think about all of the innovation and energy and investment that takes when you have, you know, women and men. 0.92

01:35:07.000 And penises and vaginas and wounds and, you know, all the things that nature has already provided. 0.90

01:35:13.000 So, yeah, but but that being said, when the National Review does publish that article, the conservative case for artificial wounds, I'm going to be like, well, they already exist. 0.93

01:35:23.000 They've already grown some animals in them.

01:35:25.000 I think the only issue now for humans is ethics.

01:35:28.000 So if they existed, what's the argument for terminating the life of a fetus if it can be saved?

01:35:34.000 I'm also curious with the animals, uh, I'm curious with the animals, like what the effectiveness rate is, how dangerous it is to have them in an artificial womb as opposed to just normally developing.

01:35:43.000 Right.

01:35:43.000 So obviously I'm not asking the question of electively just ending a pregnancy.

01:35:47.000 I'm saying if they try to argue rape or incest or, or health of the mother, it's like, okay, well, artificial womb's right here. 0.59

01:35:54.000 So you can't.

01:35:55.000 Like you can, you know, for those reasons, I think then you end up having more babies.

01:36:01.000 Let's go to Super Chats!

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01:36:13.000 Let's read what y'all have to say.

01:36:15.000 A very important one from Andrew R. He says, Okay!

01:36:21.000 I'm pretty sure that's not true.

01:36:23.000 South America?

01:36:23.000 I don't know.

01:36:24.000 Let's ask the fellow for a source.

01:36:27.000 You know what's really interesting about that?

01:36:28.000 I think that's probably a hooey statement, but maybe not.

01:36:32.000 The fact that you had this convergent evolution of the pyramid system and of course the pharaonic system where you have this god-king at the top and then the warriors below and then the servants below that Well, the fact that that evolved independently in the New World with the Aztecs and the Mayans and the Incans is absolutely fascinating because one of two things either happened there.

01:36:55.000 One, you had some guy who came from Egypt, perhaps on a boat or maybe traipsed all the way across the Bering Strait, and he had either the knowledge in his mind or some sacred tome on how to create a society.

01:37:06.000 And he made his way all the way down into the equatorial region of the New World and then set about creating that New World.

01:37:12.000 Possible.

01:37:13.000 Quite unlikely.

01:37:14.000 A more likely scenario, which is, I think, far more fascinating, is the idea that societies, human societies, tend towards certain structures.

01:37:23.000 And it's almost like, you know, the eusocial ant colony, where you have that natural hierarchy form.

01:37:29.000 Right.

01:37:29.000 The pyramid thing is just because they're the easiest things to build.

01:37:32.000 Stacking rocks.

01:37:32.000 Absolutely.

01:37:33.000 And also you could say that it's optimizing human capital by having, you know, a God-King-like figure at the top with warriors and then the slave.

01:37:40.000 I mean, how else would it be?

01:37:42.000 But it is a fascinating phenomenon that basically, with a lot of particular differences, in essence, the new world recreated the old world independently out of thin air.

01:37:53.000 All right, we got Philip Allen McCracken says, oh no, where'd Timothy's teal tea go?

01:38:00.000 Or did you run out of the color?

01:38:01.000 Baseball tea is always a good choice, good sir.

01:38:04.000 Thanks for the show.

01:38:05.000 So actually, this is the same shirt.

01:38:06.000 That was just icing from a cake.

01:38:08.000 Oh, you spilled it?

01:38:08.000 No, no, no.

01:38:09.000 What happened was, it was teal, and then Tim got scared.

01:38:12.000 The color all bled out.

01:38:14.000 It turned gray.

01:38:17.000 Well, a predator had come in and I had to change colors to blend in with the background.

01:38:21.000 High marks on the teal shirt.

01:38:22.000 I saw a lot of clips of that.

01:38:24.000 Really liking it.

01:38:25.000 I got a bunch of other colored shirts, too.

01:38:26.000 So there's a blue one, and there's a red one.

01:38:29.000 There's a yellow one, but that's too ANCAP-y, so... We should try that one. 0.99

01:38:32.000 Give it to Andy! 0.91

01:38:33.000 It's my high school colors.

01:38:34.000 Give them to Andy, or when Luke comes, we'll make Luke wear it.

01:38:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:38:36.000 And then everyone will wear the political compass color shirts.

01:38:39.000 Perfect.

01:38:40.000 Ian will... 100%.

01:38:41.000 I don't know what color... Green?

01:38:42.000 I don't know.

01:38:43.000 Green?

01:38:43.000 I'm going there, yeah.

01:38:46.000 Alright.

01:38:47.000 Ian Kinney says, Jack Posobiec was detained by armed World Economic Forum police officers this morning while covering the forum in Davos.

01:38:55.000 Yeah, Davos Cops.

01:38:56.000 That was crazy.

01:38:56.000 He was detained for like an hour.

01:38:57.000 And they said he looked suspicious.

01:38:59.000 Oh, please.

01:39:00.000 They know who he is.

01:39:01.000 It's like, Jacobus Obyx has like 1.5 million followers or something.

01:39:04.000 They know who they're detaining.

01:39:06.000 Imagine they were like, we're holding you for an hour and we just now realized you're a journalist with a camera on the table.

01:39:11.000 He was like, in case you get detained and you need to rest, you can always get a pillow, Poso.

01:39:16.000 Hashtag Poso.

01:39:17.000 MyPillow.com.

01:39:18.000 That's great.

01:39:18.000 Good for him.

01:39:19.000 Harryto says, no Luke, I puke.

01:39:21.000 Well, y'all should tweet to Luke and tell him to get here sooner.

01:39:25.000 Stormfire says, hey Tim, Cassandra's name is spelt wrong on the about page on your website.

01:39:29.000 It says Cassanda.

01:39:30.000 You better fix it now that I paid to tell you about it.

01:39:33.000 Nice work, dude.

01:39:35.000 Somebody spelled it wrong.

01:39:36.000 Better fix it.

01:39:38.000 Good catch.

01:39:39.000 Cassanda.

01:39:40.000 That's a good name.

01:39:41.000 I like that.

01:39:42.000 Thomas Sidebottom says, Friendly advice for all.

01:39:45.000 Fill up your car every time you use it.

01:39:46.000 You can pay for 1 gallon at $4, 1 gallon at $4.25, and 1 gallon at $4.60, or you can buy 3 gallons at $4.60.

01:39:53.000 Might save you significant sums of money.

01:39:54.000 That is a good point.

01:39:57.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:39:59.000 Eric Mack says, glad to see you're using the Brave browser and sticking it to Big Deck.

01:40:04.000 That's right.

01:40:04.000 Absolutely, big fans of Brave.

01:40:06.000 Amanda Delt says, would you kindly give a listen to my friend's new song, the artist is Ripper.

01:40:11.000 Find him on SoundCloud and soon on Spotify.

01:40:13.000 He is an upcoming artist out of Oklahoma.

01:40:16.000 Would you kindly means you have to do it.

01:40:18.000 Bozeman says, yeah, Ian, I missed you.

01:40:21.000 Oh, thanks, man.

01:40:22.000 Boseman, Montana.

01:40:23.000 I don't know, I went through Montana, I think, or close to it.

01:40:26.000 Beautiful.

01:40:27.000 You should've stopped by.

01:40:28.000 I didn't know you were out there.

01:40:29.000 I didn't want to hit you up.

01:40:32.000 Alright, Jake Moore says, have Dave Smith back on after LP Reno Reset.

01:40:36.000 What's that?

01:40:37.000 They have a conference, I think, in Nevada soon.

01:40:40.000 Yeah.

01:40:40.000 All right, Dave, come back on the show.

01:40:41.000 Yes, by all means.

01:40:43.000 All right.

01:40:44.000 Noah Zork says, Monkeypox escaped from that truck a couple months ago.

01:40:48.000 It's all connected.

01:40:48.000 It's not!

01:40:49.000 Monkeypox is not just, it's not from monkeys.

01:40:52.000 It was found in monkeys.

01:40:54.000 It's gross.

01:40:55.000 Yeah, it can be in people.

01:40:56.000 So those monkeys, I think, were like, they were test monkeys months ago.

01:41:01.000 I don't think, I just gotta tell you, a lot of people have been saying that, just wrong.

01:41:06.000 Just not true.

01:41:08.000 The current spread, and earmuffs for your kids, the current spread is widely believed to be among men who enjoy the presence of men.

01:41:17.000 That's what they've been saying across the board.

01:41:19.000 Yeah, there was that, what is it, Darklands, a kind of fetish club in Antwerp that they'd take, they'd, I think three cases they tied back to there.

01:41:28.000 Yeah.

01:41:28.000 Obviously all men enjoying each other's companies.

01:41:31.000 I think they probably, they should have been wearing... I think they should socially distance.

01:41:35.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:41:35.000 And wear their gimp masks.

01:41:37.000 Yeah.

01:41:38.000 Frog kind of mask.

01:41:38.000 Any kind of mask.

01:41:39.000 Any kind of mask.

01:41:40.000 All right.

01:41:42.000 All right, Ben Hickson says, Avi Yamini from Rebel News in Davos reporting on the World Economic Forum.

01:41:46.000 You should have him on.

01:41:48.000 Yeah, I mean, he's always welcome to come on.

01:41:50.000 We'd love to have him.

01:41:51.000 Big fan.

01:41:51.000 Oh, Avi?

01:41:52.000 Yeah, he talks to a woman from the New York Times.

01:41:54.000 That was really funny.

01:41:54.000 I saw that clip he posted.

01:41:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:56.000 Where he's like, you know, can you explain, can you tell people why they should trust you when you're not here reporting on Davos, but you're here as an invited guest?

01:42:03.000 And they were like, no.

01:42:04.000 Nice.

01:42:06.000 Yeah, they're not they're reporting on Davos.

01:42:07.000 They're the invited guests.

01:42:09.000 Amazing.

01:42:09.000 Yeah, we were gonna have him but he needs like passport or something.

01:42:12.000 I don't know what's going on there.

01:42:13.000 Okay.

01:42:14.000 Wrath of Paul says, Have you heard of the tabletop exercise from the nuclear threat initiative written in 2021 that deals with a hypothetical monkeypox outbreak on 5-15-22?

01:42:24.000 Seems a little suspicious.

01:42:26.000 Maybe.

01:42:27.000 Or, you know, It's a little on the nose.

01:42:31.000 It's a big question because you guys have all seen Event 201, I'm sure, right?

01:42:36.000 No.

01:42:37.000 You've never seen Event 201?

01:42:39.000 What's the summary?

01:42:40.000 Well, the summary, you can find it easily.

01:42:42.000 I think Johns Hopkins or the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation have it up.

01:42:46.000 So it's the simulation that was done in October of 2019 where the idea was a coronavirus is spreading across the planet.

01:42:54.000 How do we fix it?

01:42:55.000 We shut off as many sources of misinformation as we can.

01:42:59.000 We roll out a vaccine.

01:43:00.000 We shut out any sort of misinformation on the vaccine, so on and so forth.

01:43:04.000 You watch it, it gives you this really weird sort of deja vu, right?

01:43:07.000 Because you've already experienced all of it, but they were talking about it back then.

01:43:10.000 Well, a lot of people say this obvious, right?

01:43:13.000 They created it, blah blah blah, you know, this whole thing was just them, I guess, doing a public training on what they were going to unleash.

01:43:20.000 But I think that, I don't know about the monkeypox case, I've seen it, I haven't really looked into it all that much, but I think in all of these sorts of things, they are running simulations constantly.

01:43:29.000 And, you know, you've got, especially in the case of Event 201, you've got these guys basically creating all of these hammers, these carpenters creating hammers, and as soon as they had an opportunity, they started smashing everything around them.

01:43:40.000 Probably the same thing with the monkeypox, or, Or they wanted to, it could be a right-wing conspiracy to take out gay men.

01:43:48.000 I think, I think what happens is like in Nostradamus, you know, he makes a bunch of predictions. 0.72

01:43:53.000 Then when one happens, they're like, look, he predicted it.

01:43:55.000 And it's like, there was a guy who tweeted something like he, what did he say?

01:44:00.000 He said, you know, on this date at this time, this team will win the world series with this many points.

01:44:06.000 And then everyone went, whoa, how did he predict it?

01:44:08.000 And what he did was he tweeted like 3,000 times all these different scenarios.

01:44:14.000 Then when the one happened, he deleted all of them. So it looked like he had the one tweet

01:44:18.000 accurately predicting it. He didn't. Medical tyranny freaks me out.

01:44:23.000 Like, I look at North Korea and he's basically leading by starving his population, which is kind of a form of medicine. 0.90

01:44:28.000 You know, food is your medicine.

01:44:29.000 And to see these people not in a state able to take care of themselves, they just serve, you know?

01:44:36.000 All right, GC says, Tim, great show today.

01:44:38.000 Thank you for having Joe Allen on to talk about transhumanism from your War Room fans.

01:44:42.000 Hey, appreciate it.

01:44:45.000 Coltrane says, how long before woke activists attack churches after Pelosi gets denied communion?

01:44:50.000 Pope Francis is infiltrator of the woke after his response.

01:44:53.000 It's obvious Catholic Church will fragment soon, I bet. 0.99

01:44:57.000 Well, I mean, they were trying to attack it over Roe v. Wade.

01:45:00.000 We saw people protecting their churches.

01:45:02.000 We saw lefties actually, like, breaking into churches and interrupting the Holy Mass, so.

01:45:06.000 Really?

01:45:07.000 Yeah.

01:45:07.000 Wow.

01:45:08.000 Yeah.

01:45:08.000 That's crazy.

01:45:09.000 I at least saw one video of that, and then I saw another video of a group protecting their church, and they were labeled white nationalists. 0.67

01:45:15.000 When I saw the left vandalize statues of Mary and Jesus all over the place, and Christians did nothing, Yeah, it's insane.

01:45:23.000 I was like, oh wow, I guess they don't care that much.

01:45:24.000 You really have to wonder how long it'll be before they... Excuse me.

01:45:27.000 Well, you have to wonder how long it'll be before they do snap.

01:45:30.000 Well, Tim was saying that that would be the final straw and that would be able to push people over the edge.

01:45:33.000 And I was like, you don't realize, I don't think how weak the American church is.

01:45:37.000 It's really bad.

01:45:38.000 It's really bad.

01:45:39.000 Well, you know, well, also the left spends all this time engaging in phony fear over how terrified I am of Christian tyranny. 0.96

01:45:47.000 And then they just go out and bully Christians. 0.78

01:45:49.000 And it's like, dude, eventually someone probably will snap. 0.87

01:45:53.000 You attack somebody's church.

01:45:54.000 Yeah.

01:45:54.000 Someone might end up getting hurt.

01:45:56.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:45:57.000 Do you know Trinity Church?

01:45:59.000 No.

01:46:00.000 In New York?

01:46:00.000 Are they Catholic?

01:46:02.000 I'm not familiar.

01:46:03.000 Probably not.

01:46:03.000 I think they're Catholic.

01:46:05.000 Trinity Church? 0.84

01:46:05.000 I don't know much about New York. 0.84

01:46:08.000 Take the facts.

01:46:09.000 I heard that they were like the largest real estate owners in the city.

01:46:12.000 Trinity Church is a historic parish in the Episcopal Diocese of New York.

01:46:18.000 So it's not Catholic, right? 0.63

01:46:19.000 Catholic Light.

01:46:21.000 Catholic Church owns a lot of land.

01:46:23.000 They own a lot of land, the Trinity Church.

01:46:25.000 And it is crazy, when I was just in New York, some of the biggest buildings in the city, obviously not the skyscrapers, but massive churches all over the place.

01:46:34.000 Huge.

01:46:34.000 Organized religion could become very dangerous.

01:46:38.000 You know, true, but is it not also the foundation of basically everything that we stand on now?

01:46:45.000 Yeah, the Judeo-Christian morals are the organization of the church, maybe, but they fled that.

01:46:52.000 That's why they came here, was to get away from that.

01:46:55.000 Yes, you know, people talk about organized religion.

01:46:57.000 And I agree on a personal level, but it's impossible to deny that across the planet, organized religion has been the organizing principle for human civilizations, arguably as far back as prehistoric times, but certainly the civilizations we know of.

01:47:14.000 Mathematics, too.

01:47:15.000 That's a good organization principle.

01:47:17.000 I mean, that's arguably, I mean, I would argue it's better than Well, no, religion's a moral one, not that it's a structural one.

01:47:22.000 Much of what we now have as a Christian civilization comes out of Greek philosophy, which of course was mathematical philosophy.

01:47:29.000 I just said this, I think it's important to remember that the pilgrims fled, I think it was a persecution of the Catholic Church at the time.

01:47:36.000 No, the Pilgrims, they fled from England. 0.78

01:47:39.000 And they were getting... Because, from Anglicanism.

01:47:42.000 Anglican persecution.

01:47:42.000 But I believe, well they, if I'm not, if I'm correct about this, they believed that it was too similar to the Catholic Church, but it was, it was, they left England, which was Anglican.

01:47:52.000 Like, I love the idea of Christian, like the Christ, Jesus Christ, dude, that guy.

01:47:57.000 One of the most amazing humans ever to have existed on Earth, according to what we can tell about the guy.

01:48:02.000 But when the church starts to tell people what they have to do, man, that's so empathetical to Jesus.

01:48:08.000 He didn't... He said, if you love me, keep my commandments, so he did.

01:48:11.000 Well, that's all out of... It's what the church told you he said.

01:48:13.000 Well, then how do you know anything that he said?

01:48:15.000 I don't know, man.

01:48:16.000 It's all through the church, I guess.

01:48:18.000 But I mean, some of that stuff is like... You're right.

01:48:21.000 You're right.

01:48:21.000 It's all through the church's writings.

01:48:23.000 I think religion was the first attempts... It was rudimentary governance.

01:48:29.000 It was rudimentary social structure.

01:48:31.000 It was...

01:48:32.000 Attempt at science.

01:48:33.000 Why are we here?

01:48:34.000 Well, very early on we knew very little and we started to, you know, talk and tell stories and experience things.

01:48:40.000 And then I think it's very much moral frameworks to help guide things that made sense.

01:48:45.000 Like, you shouldn't eat pork.

01:48:47.000 Well, maybe they were, you know, contained viruses or they were dirtier.

01:48:51.000 Parasites, yeah.

01:48:52.000 Parasites and things like that.

01:48:53.000 We talked earlier about the God-King, that pharaoh religion. 0.87

01:48:57.000 You're talking about Jeremy Boring?

01:48:59.000 Of course, every chance I get.

01:49:01.000 But like the ancient pharaohs of Egypt, that was a religion, and they believed that guy was... Absolutely, but you know, after that period you have this axial turn, right?

01:49:09.000 And the period say between 800 BC, 200 BC, people date it differently, but you had this axial turn against that archaic God-King state.

01:49:19.000 And all of the major world religions are in some sense axial religions, meaning that that connection between the mundane order and divinity was broken and divinity began to be conceptualized as something over and above the mundane order.

01:49:35.000 And Jesus is not in that time frame, but he's certainly emblematic of that.

01:49:39.000 So you'd have like the Buddha, the various rishis and seers in India and yogins, the Taoist, Confucius, the Greek philosophers, Plato, Aristotle, on and on and on.

01:49:50.000 And of course, the Israeli prophets.

01:49:51.000 All of these came about at the same time.

01:49:53.000 It's very, very interesting, but you have this axial turn against that.

01:49:56.000 So, yes, obviously Egypt was the carrier of civilization up until a point, but after this axial turn, You have completely different forms of religion, which then separate the mundane from the spiritual, and also, I would argue, have a much gentler approach.

01:50:13.000 So the sorts of things that I think probably don't want to project onto you, but rub you wrong about religion in the organized sense, its violence, its control, held within that is this gentle figure of Jesus.

01:50:25.000 Focus on that.

01:50:26.000 Let's read some more.

01:50:27.000 We got Straight Shooter says, An opportunity for Timcast is to be a co-sponsor of Women's X Games, adding a cash bonus to the prize money at award.

01:50:34.000 Note, it's for biological women. 1.00

01:50:36.000 Yeah, Disney would not want that.

01:50:38.000 I'm pretty sure Disney owns the X Games.

01:50:39.000 But we are planning events.

01:50:42.000 And we'll probably do skate events, scoot, bike, blade, whatever.

01:50:48.000 Family fun stuff.

01:50:50.000 We want to inspire parents and their kids to get involved and have their kids embrace hobbies and physical activity and stuff.

01:50:55.000 Just good positive things for the community and the neighborhoods.

01:50:58.000 And of course, we're going to have a females division for females. 1.00

01:51:04.000 Then we are going to, uh, you know, I almost think it's kind of stupid to retreat from the women thing. 1.00

01:51:09.000 They, uh, if the left wants to claim women means gendered term, it's like, okay, dude, we didn't make women's volleyball or women's basketball or women's skateboarding because sometimes people wear dresses. 0.73

01:51:20.000 We did it because biological females tend not to qualify in all gendered events. 1.00

01:51:27.000 So major league sports are available for all genders.

01:51:30.000 It's just women don't ever make the cut. 1.00

01:51:33.000 Women have tried to get in the NFL to be kickers and they just don't make the cut. 1.00

01:51:37.000 Some women have gotten close and then it's like been really bad and there was a college team that got obliterated and they're like the first team with a female kicker and then all the guys were like really depressed and sad at like they were sacrificed to wokeness to make this claim or whatever.

01:51:50.000 So yeah, we'll do a women's event for women and it's going to be for biological women. 1.00

01:51:56.000 You know, back in the old days on the playground, you had to be afraid of the tomboy and you were never afraid of the sissy. 0.55

01:52:01.000 And I guess that's really been flipped on its head. 0.90

01:52:04.000 Now the sissy is quite the threat to women and the tomboy, well, let's hope that she can get by. 1.00

01:52:09.000 All right, let's see what we got here. 0.93

01:52:11.000 Let's read some more.

01:52:13.000 Okay, what is this?

01:52:14.000 Squawking?

01:52:17.000 Justin Chavez says, hypothetically, if companies stop being woke and actually adhere to the Constitution, how would that affect alt-tech platforms such as Gab, Truth, etc.?

01:52:25.000 Would they fail?

01:52:26.000 Why or why not?

01:52:27.000 We need to hear that one more time.

01:52:29.000 What was the first part of that question?

01:52:31.000 If companies stop being woke and actually adhere to the Constitution, how would that affect alt-tech?

01:52:34.000 I think they'd lose.

01:52:35.000 I think the incentive then is to fish where the fish are.

01:52:39.000 Twitter's the biggest.

01:52:40.000 Oh, the Constitution isn't prepared for this social media.

01:52:43.000 They weren't prepared.

01:52:43.000 It doesn't have anything to do with social media in the Constitution yet.

01:52:46.000 What do you mean?

01:52:48.000 They didn't know there was going to be corporate social media.

01:52:50.000 Let's talk about radio, either.

01:52:53.000 Uh, social media's unique, really unique.

01:52:56.000 It, like, you control your own network.

01:52:59.000 And, and, what is he, free speech?

01:53:01.000 Like, free speech doesn't... So does, what do you mean?

01:53:02.000 So does radio.

01:53:03.000 You could take a radio and you could broadcast wherever you want, whenever you want.

01:53:05.000 Kind of.

01:53:06.000 Ham radio.

01:53:06.000 They have, like, FCC regulations and stuff.

01:53:08.000 You don't, you can kind of ham radio it, but they'll catch it.

01:53:10.000 Radio's not in the Constitution.

01:53:11.000 That, that's why I'm asking.

01:53:12.000 What was your point?

01:53:13.000 Like, free speech.

01:53:15.000 People are relying on the constitutional definition of free speech for being able to type things on a social network, but that doesn't give the creator of the network the free speech to shut anyone out they want.

01:53:25.000 Like, so it's confused.

01:53:26.000 You can't use free speech in this technology.

01:53:28.000 You gotta, I think, create new laws for it.

01:53:31.000 I can do that right now if you want.

01:53:32.000 I can talk about it.

01:53:33.000 I can go on and on about it.

01:53:34.000 I don't think you're... I don't understand what you're saying.

01:53:36.000 I think free speech is simple regardless of where the free speech is occurring.

01:53:40.000 Exactly.

01:53:40.000 And Twitter's like a private company.

01:53:42.000 It's a private network, so you don't have free speech in a private network.

01:53:45.000 But these private networks are so big that they're now considered... You're wrong.

01:53:48.000 You're wrong.

01:53:49.000 Zuccotti Park is a privately owned public space.

01:53:51.000 And they kicked everyone out and threw the cup with the cops?

01:53:53.000 I was there that night.

01:53:54.000 No, they didn't.

01:53:54.000 They lost a court ruling saying that if you are privately owned but open to the public, you must allow protest.

01:54:00.000 And that's how Occupy was able to exist.

01:54:02.000 In the first week, anyone who tried to sleep, the cops would come and tear down their tent and kick them out.

01:54:06.000 And then eventually the courts were like, no.

01:54:08.000 If you're privately owned but publicly available, people are allowed to speak and do their protest.

01:54:12.000 Why then did the cops come in at the end?

01:54:14.000 Sanitation.

01:54:15.000 They argued that it had become so filthy that it needed to be cleaned.

01:54:18.000 And then they brought in the sanitation crews to come and clean it. 0.91

01:54:20.000 The first time the state government proposed wiping out Occupy, people showed up all at 2am and everyone cleaned everything spotless and said, Aha!

01:54:29.000 So their effort to purge it didn't work because they had a First Amendment right to occupy a private space.

01:54:34.000 Interestingly, the Chase Manhattan Plaza, which is one block, I believe, to the east, Shut down entirely because they knew the precedent in this country is privately owned spaces must adhere to free speech rules, First Amendment rights, if they're open to the public.

01:54:50.000 So the Chase Plaza just put up barriers and said, Nope, we're not open to the public anymore.

01:54:54.000 Private property.

01:54:55.000 Go away.

01:54:56.000 That was hilarious.

01:54:58.000 Also like the public has changed because like if you're in your computer in your house, you're not in public.

01:55:04.000 Well, the platform is open and available to the public.

01:55:06.000 It doesn't matter if it's private.

01:55:07.000 Now, the issue is, is anybody going to file enough lawsuits until we get the precedent set?

01:55:11.000 Let's read some more, though.

01:55:13.000 Feral81 says, James O'Keefe might punch dogs, but did you know that George Washington routinely drowned puppies?

01:55:19.000 See John Furling's biography, The First of Men, Oxford University Press.

01:55:22.000 I don't believe that's true.

01:55:22.000 Interesting.

01:55:24.000 I believe that is untrue.

01:55:25.000 Ken Sitikova says, downsizing is the only solution.

01:55:28.000 Quote, blessed are the meek, they will inherit the earth.

01:55:32.000 Interesting.

01:55:33.000 Buy yourself a small plot of land where you can grow enough food for you and your family, and then homestead.

01:55:37.000 I like the word meek. 0.96

01:55:38.000 Jordan Peterson talks about it.

01:55:39.000 It's not weak.

01:55:40.000 Meek is someone with a big weapon that chooses not to use it unless it's absolutely judiciously necessary. 0.59

01:55:46.000 Except for when you look at the context of Jesus and his disciples, they weren't exactly wielding big swords.

01:55:53.000 Were they not?

01:55:54.000 Were they not armed?

01:55:54.000 Well, I mean, Jesus does say, who does not have a sword, sell his cloak and buy one.

01:55:59.000 Sell his cloak and buy one?

01:56:00.000 This is true.

01:56:01.000 This is true.

01:56:02.000 He also says, you know, and I don't want to get into the details of it, but... No, live by the sword, die by the sword.

01:56:05.000 Absolutely.

01:56:06.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:56:07.000 I was imagining some like, you know, some dude heard him say that and he's like, you're gonna be cold.

01:56:13.000 But you gotta get a sword.

01:56:14.000 Like modern era is gonna be like sell your coat to buy an AR-15.

01:56:18.000 I mean I think it must be a really nice cloak if you can sell it for a sword to be honest.

01:56:24.000 Yeah I guess my point is I don't want people to come away thinking that like the Bible is against self-defense or something like that.

01:56:30.000 Alright, Wootdoo4U says, Tim, you say diabetics will be the first to go. 0.98

01:56:33.000 Not me.

01:56:34.000 A portable fridge and solar generator and panel cost around $1,200 and will keep insulin below 70 degrees and infinitely long as the sun burns bright.

01:56:43.000 That's great.

01:56:44.000 That is true and correct.

01:56:47.000 Alright.

01:56:50.000 Dim Sum Nim Sum says, you guys complain about gas.

01:56:53.000 Canada has been at $7 a gallon since around March this year.

01:56:56.000 It's probably going to be $9.43 by the end of summer.

01:56:59.000 So I'm curious, with Canadian dollars, I know they're a little different than ours, so I wonder what the typical gas price is in Canada.

01:57:06.000 No idea.

01:57:07.000 It's almost the same.

01:57:07.000 Is it?

01:57:08.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's comparable.

01:57:09.000 Interesting.

01:57:13.000 Andrew says, hey Tim, new to watching your channel, thanks for all your work.

01:57:16.000 I also wanted to ask, what does WaPo's slogan, democracy dies in darkness, mean?

01:57:20.000 Do they lack self-awareness, or they have malicious intent?

01:57:24.000 It means that if people don't know what's going on, they can't adequately make decisions for their lives.

01:57:30.000 So, I think the slogan is true and correct, and Washington Post says it, because they're trying to foment darkness.

01:57:36.000 They're trying to kill democracy.

01:57:39.000 Well, if they're trying, they're doing a very good job.

01:57:41.000 Right.

01:57:42.000 That's fine.

01:57:43.000 You know, it's probably one of the funnier ironies in the media.

01:57:48.000 All the different WAPO headlines with democracy dies in darkness and almost invariably the headline is in some way anti-democratic.

01:57:57.000 Alright, Jersey B Luciano says Pilot Flying J CEO testified they are 20% of US diesel consumption and are being forced to cut their diesel orders.

01:58:06.000 Also connected is Union Pacific and Warren Buffett purchase of BNSF.

01:58:11.000 It strikes me like people need to start creating their own diesel, their own biofuel.

01:58:15.000 But then the government's going to be like, no, it's not official.

01:58:18.000 You can't collect rainwater in a bucket, because we said so from Washington, D.C.

01:58:21.000 Like, there's no fuel.

01:58:22.000 People need fuel.

01:58:23.000 Let's teach people how to make fuel.

01:58:26.000 Daniel Maxwell says the election of Lincoln was what triggered the secession of most slave states.

01:58:31.000 the setting the setting this thus setting the stage for the civil war to become a hot war

01:58:35.000 if scotus overturns roe and casey followed by the election of a pro-life president 2024

01:58:40.000 history can repeat and that president will be donald trump and he's gonna be like we're gonna

01:58:45.000 do it we're gonna ban abortion in this country you think i will rent 0.98

01:58:48.000 Do you think he would win?

01:58:49.000 Yes. Do you think DeSantis is gonna run? I don't know, but the we covered the story last week

01:58:56.000 60.9% of voters in the past 10 primaries like every state was Republican

01:59:02.000 So I mean if you just extrapolate that to the general wild this is primary

01:59:08.000 I mean, you'd think the Democrat activists would be going heavy on the primary.

01:59:12.000 So this is going to be huge.

01:59:14.000 This general might just be massive for the Republicans.

01:59:18.000 And then the same sentiment around the Democrats' failures these past several years, the gas prices.

01:59:23.000 I mean, it almost might be better if the Republicans barely win.

01:59:26.000 So then in 2024, they can win everything, you know, take the Senate, take the executive branch, take the House.

01:59:33.000 Clef the Misfit says, if Dems somehow win 2024, the Civil War factions will be the federal government versus red state governors and volunteer militias who will be pushed to secession by the feds.

01:59:41.000 Florida will be first. 0.71

01:59:44.000 Yeah, I mean, if Democrats win in 2024, you have a similar issue with abortion.

01:59:48.000 I mean, Democrats tried to pass a federal nine-month abortion provision.

01:59:54.000 And the law, it's funny, there was a hit piece on me.

01:59:58.000 And it was like, why are conservatives so obsessed with mid-birth abortions that never happen?

02:00:03.000 And it was just like, it's funny because they know nothing about my actual positions on this.

02:00:07.000 And it was like, because you tried to legalize it?

02:00:10.000 That's it.

02:00:11.000 I brought it up because the Democrats tried to legalize it.

02:00:13.000 I'm like, I don't know.

02:00:14.000 If it doesn't happen, then why do you want to make it legal?

02:00:16.000 If it doesn't happen, maybe it's not happening because it's illegal.

02:00:19.000 That's the craziest thing to me.

02:00:20.000 They're like, well, you can't legally do it, make it legal.

02:00:22.000 Okay, I think that's a bad idea.

02:00:23.000 Why are you so obsessed with this?

02:00:24.000 It doesn't even happen.

02:00:26.000 If it doesn't happen, then why do you want to make it legal?

02:00:27.000 It's ridiculous how they try and use sophistry on this argument.

02:00:33.000 The bill said a baby being viable can be aborted if the health of the mother is at risk, the pregnant patient.

02:00:41.000 Abortion is defined by the CDC as the ending of a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth, which means the baby is viable.

02:00:48.000 We are not talking about stillbirth.

02:00:49.000 The law says viable, not stillborn.

02:00:51.000 It doesn't say we are removing a stillborn baby.

02:00:54.000 It says you are aborting, which is to terminate the pregnancy that will result in a not live birth of a viable baby.

02:01:00.000 I'm just asking you why you want that law.

02:01:02.000 That's it.

02:01:03.000 I'm obsessed, I guess.

02:01:04.000 It's not happening, but you're evil for not wanting it to happen.

02:01:08.000 How strange.

02:01:10.000 Rage Warrior says I saw you play Mario Kart, Tim.

02:01:12.000 It's not cheating to use shortcuts.

02:01:14.000 I'd like to explain.

02:01:16.000 I played Mario Kart against the guys over the Daily Wire and I crushed them!

02:01:20.000 It was laughably bad.

02:01:21.000 What system? 64.

02:01:24.000 Oh yeah, they obliterated him.

02:01:26.000 And we played Wario Stadium.

02:01:27.000 They asked you to leave because of it.

02:01:29.000 No, it was really funny when Michael Knowles thought he was winning.

02:01:33.000 And then in the beginning of Wario Stadium in Mario Kart 64, you can jump half the level.

02:01:39.000 Single move.

02:01:40.000 And so I did it.

02:01:41.000 And then all of a sudden I was so far ahead of him.

02:01:43.000 He was confused.

02:01:43.000 Like, wait, wait, what?

02:01:44.000 You're in front of me.

02:01:44.000 I was winning.

02:01:45.000 And I'm like, you're so far behind me, dude.

02:01:46.000 You got no idea.

02:01:48.000 And then I waited at the finish line for like a minute.

02:01:50.000 And then I just like tapped the A and like hit the, and he's like, nah, that's funny.

02:01:54.000 I think Mario Kart is the only excusable video game, and it is a virtue to be able to play it well.

02:02:01.000 I think that being able to get together with your friends and play, you know, Mario Kart is maybe the highest expression of community there is.

02:02:09.000 Other than that, technology is horrible and should be abolished if we can just keep Mario Kart.

02:02:14.000 What about pulleys?

02:02:15.000 I mean, we're talking about everything, hose, all of it, except for Mario Kart.

02:02:19.000 Except for Mario Kart.

02:02:20.000 I don't know how we'll power the televisions, but it doesn't really matter.

02:02:25.000 Anyway, you know what I'm saying.

02:02:27.000 It is the greatest.

02:02:28.000 It's one of those ironies in life that you just have to work out.

02:02:31.000 Mario Kart's the highest form of human expression.

02:02:34.000 Technology is evil.

02:02:35.000 Yeah, the shell that shoots backwards.

02:02:38.000 Astounding.

02:02:38.000 Did you ever have the green turtle shell only matches?

02:02:42.000 You know, you have to discard anything except for a green turtle shell in battle mode.

02:02:45.000 Oh, no, I don't know.

02:02:46.000 It really, it builds character.

02:02:48.000 It builds character.

02:02:49.000 I just want to mention this.

02:02:50.000 I could be wrong about this because it's been something like 20... 18 years since I actually played.

02:02:56.000 But I'm pretty sure in Wario Stadium and N64, in order to beat the time trial, you have to jump the barrier.

02:03:02.000 Like, it's actually considered part of the skill of getting a level.

02:03:05.000 Yeah, because we were wondering how the Wario's Stadium Ghost was so fast, and we were like, you have to jump the barrier to get that, which cuts the level in half.

02:03:13.000 But we got to the point where we were all doing it.

02:03:15.000 We were all so good at it.

02:03:16.000 It was crazy.

02:03:16.000 And then Rainbow Road, you can jump off the side.

02:03:18.000 I love Rainbow Road.

02:03:19.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:03:20.000 Yeah, you can jump off the side and float down to the other part of it.

02:03:24.000 Ryan says the sword is not literal.

02:03:25.000 It is the word of God.

02:03:26.000 Sell it that bright colors. All right. We'll grab a wrist of no walls

02:03:29.000 I like that Seth Hall says first recorded God Kings were in Sumeria

02:03:32.000 interesting absolutely All right. Let's see

02:03:37.000 Ryan says the sword is not literal. It is the Word of God Ephesians 6 17

02:03:42.000 That sounds weird like Propaganda.

02:03:46.000 He says to buy a sword.

02:03:47.000 It's definitely a theological interpretation.

02:03:50.000 But you know, you look at the tradition of Christian martyrdom.

02:03:53.000 I'm not saying I personally don't get too hung up on Christianity because of that, because I'm certainly not willing to turn the other cheek, but the tradition of Christian martyrdom basically eschews self-defense in favor of a higher spiritual principle.

02:04:07.000 Someone said that turning the other cheek... It may have been you, Seamus.

02:04:09.000 I don't remember if we've talked about this.

02:04:11.000 I thought that it was if someone hits you in the face, you offer them the other side of your face so that they can hit you again.

02:04:16.000 But then someone was like, no, no, no. 0.99

02:04:17.000 It's because in Roman culture, they wipe their butt with their left hand. 0.99

02:04:20.000 So if they smacked you with their right, you turn so you make them touch you with their dirty hand, which was like an insult to a Roman. 1.00

02:04:26.000 I've heard that.

02:04:27.000 I don't know if I said that.

02:04:28.000 I've heard that.

02:04:29.000 I'm not sure if that's the case, but yeah, yes, I've definitely heard that. 0.94

02:04:33.000 You're saying you're insulting them by making them touch your face with their poop hands? 0.99

02:04:38.000 It would be something like they would second guess whether they should do it because it's like, all right, I don't know if I want to go that far.

02:04:43.000 That's how this was explained to me, but I'm not entirely sure.

02:04:45.000 I heard this a while ago.

02:04:47.000 If someone slaps you, you defend yourself and don't let them slap you again.

02:04:50.000 Well said.

02:04:51.000 It's a pagan stance, but it's one that's time tested.

02:04:57.000 Oh, is that it?

02:04:58.000 That's it.

02:04:59.000 I will say that the passage, too, if you look at it in the context, you know, he says, you've heard it says, you've heard it said, do not commit murder.

02:05:07.000 But I say unto you, if a man strikes you on one cheek, offer him also the other.

02:05:11.000 I think in the context, it's clear it's about gentleness in the face of earthly violence.

02:05:16.000 I mean, the entire story of the crucifixion is about a sort of physical passivity in the face of physical violence.

02:05:24.000 But obviously, the I think we should modernize it.

02:05:30.000 And one final thought before we go.

02:05:32.000 If someone slaps you, a quick strike to the solar plexus will disable your opponent.

02:05:36.000 And then you will win.

02:05:38.000 No, I think actually you want to avoid all fights.

02:05:40.000 Yeah, you want any fight you can avoid a fight You've won that being said my friends fight to smash that like button, right?

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02:06:38.000 Thank you.

02:06:39.000 I love you guys.

02:06:40.000 Great to be back.

02:06:41.000 Tim, Seamus, Lydia, Joe, good to meet you, man.

02:06:43.000 All great to see you guys again.

02:06:44.000 It's good to be here.

02:06:45.000 And I'll catch you guys next time.

02:06:47.000 And Seamus' news is very exciting, but I also have exciting news.

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