Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Bud Light FINALLY FIRES Woke Marketing Team, Sales Hit NEW LOW w-Gene Hamilton

00:00:00.000 CNN has leaked audio of Donald Trump confessing to his crime.

00:00:26.000 Yeah, not really.

00:00:27.000 It's kind of nonsense audio.

00:00:29.000 And a lot of people are like, this is the big breaking story about Trump.

00:00:32.000 The audio proves, it doesn't prove anything.

00:00:34.000 But we are going to talk about that.

00:00:35.000 However, we're not leading with that story.

00:00:37.000 And I'm going to tell you why.

00:00:40.000 And it matters.

00:00:41.000 Because for 8 years, the media has lied about the context of every single story related to Donald Trump.

00:00:46.000 And so when they come out, CNN publishes audio and they say, this audio proves something, the rule is you're supposed to wait 3 days.

00:00:54.000 Because then invariably something else comes out and goes, actually, that was fake!

00:00:58.000 And that seems to be the way it goes.

00:01:00.000 So we'll definitely talk about the audio leaks of Donald Trump's conversations pertaining to classified documents.

00:01:05.000 But we do have more pressing and important news surrounding censorship, the culture war, and a bunch of other topics.

00:01:11.000 So it seems Bud Light sales have dropped to a new record low.

00:01:16.000 And finally, finally, Bud Light, Anheuser-Busch, has fired the marketing team.

00:01:20.000 Now I know a lot of people thought that it already happened.

00:01:22.000 It did not.

00:01:23.000 They put him on leave.

00:01:24.000 We thought this would blow over and they'd bring these people back.

00:01:29.000 Well, surprise, surprise, the boycott is holding, sales are dropping, and they finally said, you're fired.

00:01:35.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:36.000 We're gonna talk about, we got some other news.

00:01:39.000 Target is getting heat once again.

00:01:42.000 Uh, a producer from Tucker Carlson is coming out, slamming the network because they just nuked the remaining producers from Tucker Carlson.

00:01:47.000 I won't talk about that.

00:01:48.000 And then, uh, The Quarterly had a big announcement.

00:01:50.000 He is... I want to be careful how I phrase this.

00:01:54.000 Sort of leaving YouTube, making YouTube a backburner.

00:01:57.000 And this is a big shift because we're seeing something similar with Tim Dillon.

00:02:00.000 Large, prominent, influential personalities in the political and cultural space all around the same time are announcing that they're moving to Rumble.

00:02:09.000 And they're getting off YouTube.

00:02:10.000 This is market competition as it works.

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00:03:32.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Gene Hamilton.

00:03:35.000 Hello, how are y'all?

00:03:37.000 Who are you?

00:03:37.000 What do you do?

00:03:38.000 I am Vice President, General Counsel of America First Legal.

00:03:42.000 And we, we're here to fight for the common person for the American for true traditional American values.

00:03:49.000 So we represent clients in court, we do all kinds of things to oversight, public attention to things, government overreach, excesses, private corporations, the like.

00:03:59.000 Pushing back on wokeness.

00:04:00.000 Pushing back on wokeness.

00:04:03.000 All of the stuff that we're seeing all over the place, we want to be right in, and we're doing our best right now to get all of it.

00:04:08.000 And there is big news coming this week, you were mentioning, with the Supreme Court and affirmative action, so that'll be really interesting to see.

00:04:14.000 Maybe we'll get into that later in the show.

00:04:16.000 Sounds great.

00:04:16.000 Thanks for hanging out, man.

00:04:17.000 It should be fun.

00:04:17.000 We got Seamus.

00:04:18.000 I'm Seamus.

00:04:19.000 I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes, where we make animated cartoons.

00:04:22.000 We released a video last week where I reviewed and fixed a bunch of left-wing memes.

00:04:26.000 They were broken.

00:04:27.000 I had to make them funny, and I did.

00:04:29.000 So if you guys want to check that out, I think you'll enjoy it.

00:04:30.000 We also have a 30-minute long version of that same video, an extended cut, behind the paywall at freedomtunes.com.

00:04:36.000 If you guys want to go over there, check that out.

00:04:38.000 Become members.

00:04:38.000 You'll be able to see it.

00:04:40.000 And, uh... I think those are your best.

00:04:42.000 The Meme Reviews?

00:04:43.000 The Meme Reviews one.

00:04:44.000 Thank you, yeah.

00:04:45.000 They're a lot of fun.

00:04:47.000 The Conspiracy Pyramid was one of the best.

00:04:49.000 Thank you.

00:04:50.000 Well, wait until you see The Pride.

00:04:51.000 A lot of people were saying The Pride one was the best, so I want to encourage you.

00:04:54.000 You've got to watch that one.

00:04:55.000 Everyone, you have to watch it.

00:04:58.000 You at home, if you love me and want to support my work, I want to watch it.

00:05:01.000 Hey guys, Ian Crossland, iancrossland.net.

00:05:03.000 Happy to be here.

00:05:04.000 Follow me anywhere on the internet, Ian Crossland, if you like me.

00:05:06.000 And I'll see you later.

00:05:09.000 And I'm Serge.com.

00:05:10.000 I'm ready to start when you guys are.

00:05:11.000 Here's the big news!

00:05:13.000 And the big news is not that they leaked audio of Donald Trump because it's been eight years of that.

00:05:17.000 I'm so bored with it.

00:05:18.000 No, the big news is from the Daily Caller.

00:05:20.000 Top Anheuser-Busch marketing executives behind Boycott are no longer employed.

00:05:25.000 The top two Anheuser-Busch marketing executives who were placed on leave amid the company shakeup no longer work for the brand.

00:05:30.000 A source inside Anheuser-Busch confirmed in texts obtained by the Daily Caller on Tuesday.

00:05:36.000 Group vice president for marketing Daniel Blake To my understanding, if we publicly announce the word fire, it opens up the potential for them to sue us.

00:05:43.000 to obtain tax messages with the current regional head of marketing.

00:05:46.000 The caller is granting anonymity to the source to discuss lengthy, fraught internal company

00:05:50.000 policy.

00:05:51.000 Quote, to my understanding, if we publicly announce the word fire, it opens up the potential

00:05:55.000 for them to sue us.

00:05:56.000 That's why we said leave of absence, the source said in a text message obtained by the caller.

00:06:00.000 The wholesalers would have had an absolute heyday with leadership if they didn't remove her. 1.00

00:06:06.000 The source inside the company also said.

00:06:07.000 To be fair, Daniel Blake was actually awesome.

00:06:10.000 I think he was just caught in the crossfire.

00:06:12.000 But also, he did hire her, so that's a fault.

00:06:15.000 Wholesalers were told they are both gone for good by leadership during in-person conversations.

00:06:19.000 They already shifted all their direct reports to new people and the head of marketing.

00:06:23.000 The source added another text message obtained by the caller.

00:06:25.000 I'll tell you why this is important.

00:06:29.000 What we thought was going to happen, there's a hubbub, some bubble up in the press, after a couple days or a week sales return to normal, the boycott falters, they announce they're coming back from their leap of evidence, or just don't announce anything, and they just slide back into their positions, and everything resumes, and they keep on keeping on.

00:06:47.000 But that's not what happened.

00:06:48.000 What happened so far is that three months on, Bud Light sales continue to get worse, and now they've officially terminated these individuals.

00:06:57.000 Starbucks just had a strike last week because they're telling people to take down pride decorations.

00:07:01.000 Target's stock value is collapsing, and a bunch of other brands are reeling because, ladies and gentlemen, Get Woke, Go Broke is becoming more and more powerful.

00:07:11.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:11.000 You'd love to see it.

00:07:12.000 I had a similar expectation when this all began.

00:07:14.000 I thought, you know, people are going to stop drinking Bud Light for a little while, but they're going to go back to it.

00:07:20.000 I think that when conservatives have tried boycotts in the past, they haven't really stuck to them.

00:07:25.000 And, of course, this situation is a little bit different.

00:07:27.000 And one key detail I was missing is that you don't have to be a conservative to be disgusted by this kind of thing.

00:07:33.000 There's a large subsection in this country which still finds a man in a dress to be very off-putting.

00:07:40.000 And so, even without having any kind of organization or political ideology behind it, people said, I'm not drinking that anymore.

00:07:47.000 I disagree a little bit.

00:07:49.000 I think the average person does not care about a man in a dress.

00:07:51.000 And that's why it was tolerated for so long.

00:07:54.000 What they care about is, one, it was marketing beer to kids, and two, we're seeing more and more of the grooming stuff.

00:08:00.000 Parents started seeing books in schools that were teaching children about adult explicit content,

00:08:05.000 and now what's happening is it's causing a backlash that's encompassing more than just

00:08:10.000 the core issue, right? So when a parent sees a book like This Book is Gay, which Ian purchased,

00:08:16.000 and it teaches children how to use adult sex apps, there's a backlash and everything,

00:08:22.000 it's collateral damage.

00:08:24.000 So for a long time, you get a guy in a dress, what happens?

00:08:27.000 The average default urban liberal or suburban liberal, whatever type, didn't care.

00:08:32.000 They say, I don't care what these people are doing in their own homes.

00:08:35.000 They're liberals, right?

00:08:36.000 So they're like, do whatever you want, live and let live.

00:08:38.000 Then these books come out, come in these schools.

00:08:40.000 Now they see it and they associate all of it with each other.

00:08:44.000 That's why now when Bud Light, it's not just this even, Bud Light sponsoring Toronto Pride, where you've got naked men, you know, gyrating in front of children, so people see that and they're just like, all of it, gone, don't want it, no, sorry, bye bye.

00:08:56.000 I agree with you that the grooming and all of the perversity that's come into the limelight in a way that it wasn't before is also factoring into people's decision to boycott, but I would say that People have traditionally and historically still been off-put by seeing a man in a dress.

00:09:12.000 I would say that that was the case all the way up until now.

00:09:16.000 No, right, right, right, right.

00:09:17.000 Like...

00:09:18.000 And brands weren't using them as mascots.

00:09:22.000 I was looking at old photos from Atlantic City in the 20s, and people are out in summer

00:09:27.000 wearing suits.

00:09:28.000 Yeah.

00:09:29.000 Like, it was like, yes, people were offended by people who didn't wear the uniform.

00:09:33.000 So like, even up for a long period of time, we got to a point where a guy in drag, a person,

00:09:39.000 a cross-dresser, male or female, whatever, was for a long time socially completely unacceptable.

00:09:45.000 But with the liberal period, in the past 20 or so years, they said, ah, you live and let live, do your thing, I don't care.

00:09:51.000 But what I'm saying now is, yes, people may not like it, but they tolerate it and said, we don't care, we tolerate this.

00:09:55.000 Now they're not tolerating it at all.

00:09:57.000 Yeah, no, no, I agree.

00:09:58.000 I guess my main point is just that, through that period where people were tolerating it, it wasn't because they didn't find it off-putting, they were just willing to allow it to happen somewhere else.

00:10:06.000 Right, right, right, right.

00:10:06.000 Yeah.

00:10:07.000 And now that it's affecting them, the pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction.

00:10:10.000 Yeah.

00:10:11.000 So then what's the end result?

00:10:13.000 Are we going to see more brands back off?

00:10:16.000 Did we win?

00:10:17.000 Is this, is this the get what go broke?

00:10:19.000 Is the, the, the, the brick that got pulled from the tower that causes the total collapse?

00:10:23.000 Look, I personally think it's going to depend on the brand, unfortunately.

00:10:28.000 If Ben & Jerry's put Dylan Mulvaney on a carton of ice cream, people wouldn't bat an eye, because that's their customer base, right?

00:10:36.000 I disagree.

00:10:37.000 I just don't know, because that's how far out they are.

00:10:43.000 And for most mainstream corporations, families especially, touching on exactly the issue that you just mentioned, which is people don't want this stuff shoved in their face.

00:10:53.000 They're tired of it.

00:10:54.000 And so for 20 years, people tolerated RuPaul's Drag Shows and all this other stuff.

00:10:59.000 Okay, well, they're off doing their own thing in their own life, but now they're doing exactly what's happening.

00:11:04.000 But I think I just, with a brand that is extremely liberal like Ben & Jerry's, I don't know.

00:11:11.000 With everything else, I think that you're on.

00:11:13.000 Not on Ben & Jerry's.

00:11:14.000 Ben & Jerry's is a gas station brand.

00:11:15.000 Yeah?

00:11:16.000 Ben & Jerry's is like Bud Light.

00:11:17.000 Sure, they do kooky things, you know, like resist or whatever, but no one cares when they walk in to grab a pint of ice cream.

00:11:23.000 They want cookie dough and brownies. 0.53

00:11:25.000 That's all they care about.

00:11:26.000 So when Bud Light became political, In this particular way, people were just like, nope, not buying it, and I think it's because it's now affecting them.

00:11:36.000 Ben & Jerry's does a lot of political stuff, but let's be real, a guy walking into a gas station for some cookie dough ice cream doesn't care if it's Haagen-Dazs or Ben & Jerry's.

00:11:43.000 Maybe he likes Ben & Jerry's because it's got bigger cookie dough chunks.

00:11:46.000 That's about it.

00:11:47.000 So if they started... I do think if Ben & Jerry's put Dylan Mulvaney on the carton, it would sell a lot less.

00:11:52.000 I agree.

00:11:54.000 This just crossed my mind, but I think a big mistake that Bud Light made, Anheuser-Busch, is Dylan's not really... I mean, I'm not going to claim if he's trans or not, but he's an actor, and he's doing camp.

00:12:05.000 He's spoken outward that he's making fun of the whole process.

00:12:09.000 So it's not like a real trans woman. 0.89

00:12:11.000 That's like, look, we're identifying gender dysphoria.

00:12:15.000 This person is like, we're in support of this community.

00:12:17.000 It's Dylan Mulvaney. 0.99

00:12:19.000 He's a crazy actor. 0.95

00:12:20.000 He's like, so they almost mocked trans rights and transgenderism by using Dylan as their spokesmodel. 0.96

00:12:29.000 Well, this is the crazy thing to me.

00:12:31.000 I think Dylan's intention is to insult trans people.

00:12:34.000 I say it all the time, I don't know how you get anything else from that.

00:12:38.000 There was like the recent video where Dylan is on the red carpet and Tony the Tiger comes out

00:12:42.000 and Dylan starts panicking and freaking out. I'm like, could you imagine if a white man

00:12:47.000 put on blackface and went around and started hooting and hollering? 0.99

00:12:51.000 Dylan Mulvaney is a comedian and actor who has done a bunch of ridiculous things, 0.97

00:12:57.000 like the Price is Right video, running around and rolling around on the ground. 0.72

00:13:01.000 It's like shock jock, Borat-level stuff, for real.

00:13:06.000 And so you look at these videos that Dylan's produced, come on, let's be real.

00:13:12.000 Dylan singing about having a bulge? 0.84

00:13:15.000 is just to insult trans people.

00:13:18.000 And you know, we had that leftist guest on Friday, Phil Labonte, the other night was saying her whole thing was literally just whatever Tim says, we're gonna say the opposite.

00:13:28.000 And that's what ends up happening.

00:13:29.000 Dylan Mulvaney comes out, puts on this performance that's insulting and demeaning to women and trans people.

00:13:34.000 We criticize Dylan for doing it, so they defend Dylan.

00:13:37.000 Interesting.

00:13:38.000 Yeah, I mean, we're... I don't make the same distinction that you guys do.

00:13:41.000 I view all of this the same way, but I'm curious about how the transgender community or people who identify as transgender have responded to Dylan prior to the public backlash.

00:13:51.000 Well, look, there are prominent personalities who are trans who speak out against these people.

00:13:58.000 And there is, among transgender people, there's a left and a right as well.

00:14:02.000 So, I don't think you can hit it all with one broad brushstroke, you know what I mean?

00:14:08.000 Bill Mulvaney clearly is a unique character that is putting on a performance and has even said this.

00:14:15.000 Dylan Mulvaney did not come out and say they weren't trans, but did say they wanted to move beyond being identified as a trans person.

00:14:21.000 Something to that effect.

00:14:22.000 For sure.

00:14:22.000 No, I don't disagree with you guys at all that Dylan is a particularly obnoxious example, and I don't disagree that people who identify as trans have a wide variety of political views.

00:14:33.000 Where I'm saying I don't draw the distinction is I think all of it's insulting to women. 1.00

00:14:36.000 I think all of it is a caricature of womanhood. 0.76

00:14:38.000 Oh yeah, no, I'm saying that Dylan's insulting trans people on top of it.

00:14:42.000 You know, you can take a look at many... Look, I'll shout out Blaire White and I'll shout out ContraPoints.

00:14:50.000 I guess Blaire is considered conservative, I don't know where Blaire stands, and ContraPoints is considered liberal.

00:14:55.000 They're both serious people, you can disagree with them, you can have arguments around their ideologies or the way they live their lives, but they're both serious people who present arguments.

00:15:05.000 Dylan Mulvaney puts high heels on in the woods, runs around, and then sings about having a bulge, which just demeans and insults trans people.

00:15:13.000 Like, I just, it's Borat.

00:15:15.000 for it. So that makes me think that maybe Gene, you were onto

00:15:19.000 something that if companies were to go with, you know, utilizing 0.80

00:15:22.000 transgenderism as a marketing tactic, but not going for the campy clownish people as their as their spokespeople, and 0.95

00:15:30.000 they actually find like genuinely, you know, trans people that 0.53

00:15:34.000 are like, maybe they've been suffering or whatever. And they

00:15:36.000 want to elevate that community somehow I could see that actually not be destroying a company maybe actually helping.

00:15:41.000 I mean, I just go back to the RuPaul RuPaul has a show on what

00:15:46.000 year, whatever and had a show for decades.

00:15:48.000 Rupaul's Drag Race Show and all these other things.

00:15:51.000 And so you have these examples of this stuff happening.

00:15:55.000 Where you have a base that is conditioned and acculturated to this lifestyle and to this stuff, which, with none of it, I agree with, to be clear.

00:16:07.000 Quite the opposite.

00:16:08.000 But, when you take a brand like Bud Light, or you take something like anything, I mean, take a Ford Mustang.

00:16:15.000 If Ford decided, we're gonna advertise their new Mustang with Dylan Mulvaney.

00:16:19.000 But didn't they?

00:16:20.000 Did Ford do an advertisement with Dylan Mulvaney?

00:16:22.000 No, no, no, they did a Pride rainbow truck.

00:16:24.000 Who did the Pride rainbow truck? 1.00

00:16:26.000 Okay, so somebody did do, I think someone might have done a rainbow truck, but also, to be clear, there's something about the rainbow that puts a layer of abstraction over it.

00:16:37.000 I don't think there was an actual picture of somebody like Dylan Mulvaney associated with it.

00:16:41.000 Yeah, in 2022.

00:16:41.000 Ford did it.

00:16:41.000 Wow.

00:16:44.000 Well, we got an update, too.

00:16:46.000 Check this out.

00:16:46.000 It's from the New York Post.

00:16:47.000 Bud Light sales reached new weekly low following Dylan Mulvaney fiasco.

00:16:52.000 Sales of Bud Light suffered their steepest weekly drop.

00:16:55.000 I want to stress this all for you.

00:16:56.000 Please listen.

00:16:57.000 It has been three months.

00:16:59.000 Three months later, and the worst week so far.

00:17:03.000 28.5% drop.

00:17:04.000 It's getting worse.

00:17:10.000 Yo, it's supposed to be easing up three months on.

00:17:14.000 I think this is brand death.

00:17:15.000 I think, you know, the way I described it earlier is that maybe this is where we wrap a nice little bow around the Bud Light story.

00:17:23.000 Dylan Mulvaney destroyed Anheuser-Busch.

00:17:27.000 That's wild. Look, the company exists, they'll make money, and I'm not saying they just disappear

00:17:32.000 off the face of the earth, but I wonder if we might see a cascade effect that I talked about

00:17:36.000 before. Three months on and sales are still getting worse.

00:17:40.000 That's crazy. And now they're talking about, so they're doing another free beer giveaway.

00:17:46.000 They had Memorial Day, now with the Fourth of July coming up, Bud Light is giving

00:17:50.000 away their beer for free.

00:17:51.000 Mm-hmm.

00:17:52.000 Now that's the get-won't-go-broke, man.

00:17:54.000 Right.

00:17:55.000 Understatement.

00:17:56.000 Yeah, no, I think that's very accurate.

00:17:59.000 And this entire past Pride Month seems to have been a complete disaster for the left, which I very much enjoyed. 0.99

00:18:08.000 Part of why I think this was such a massive and strategic error for Bud Light is because not only were they not selling a particularly impressive product, people aren't buying Bud Light out of a sense of brand loyalty, people aren't buying Bud Light because it's the best of the best, people are buying Bud Light because it's inexpensive and it's what they have access to.

00:18:25.000 But they also have access to many other beer brands.

00:18:28.000 Nobody who's drinking Bud Light is picky about the beer they're drinking, right?

00:18:31.000 They could have a product that's not from Anheuser-Busch and enjoy it just as much, if not more.

00:18:36.000 So what they did is they tried to force something incredibly controversial onto people with a brand that those people didn't need and had very easily accessible alternatives to.

00:18:44.000 Yeah.

00:18:45.000 30 or 40 years ago, beer was like, you didn't have that many choices, right?

00:18:49.000 There were a lot of it was centralized.

00:18:50.000 Then all of a sudden microbrews got super popular.

00:18:53.000 And now you've got like 6,000 different choices you can stock your bar with.

00:18:57.000 I mean, Bud Light offers $15 beer rebates for 4th of July weekend amid boycott declining sales.

00:19:00.000 I chose as neutral of a source as I can.

00:19:01.000 They mention that 15 packs of the beer sell for less than $15.

00:19:03.000 fifteen dollar beer rebates for fourth of july weekend amid boycott declining

00:19:06.000 sales i chose as neutral of a source as i can

00:19:10.000 they mentioned that fifteen packs of the beer sell for less than fifteen

00:19:13.000 dollars it's not that they're practically free

00:19:16.000 they're giving you money So hold on.

00:19:18.000 They mention that some of these 15 packs are $12.99 in this article, and that you get a $15 rebate.

00:19:25.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is a beer company that's giving away its beer for free!

00:19:31.000 When I see that... I'm looking at their stock right now.

00:19:33.000 Look at this.

00:19:34.000 Anheuser-Busch and Envev in the past six months is down 5.72%.

00:19:37.000 In the past month, they've actually recovered 3.8%.

00:19:41.000 Yo, the market, often illogical, a beer company that doesn't sell beer, it gives it away for free.

00:19:48.000 That's something people apparently have decided they should invest in.

00:19:51.000 And so this is something, maybe some people are just trying to buy the dip, they think it's going to get better, I can't imagine anything else explaining that, but I think that there's something very Massive and catastrophic about this, and I mean catastrophic for them.

00:20:07.000 Everyone's been saying this is the best example of a conservative boycott I've ever seen.

00:20:12.000 This is one of the best examples of a boycott in general I've ever seen.

00:20:16.000 When was the last time you saw a brand that was so heavily boycotted they started giving their product away for free?

00:20:23.000 I've never seen that happen before.

00:20:25.000 Can you guys think of any examples?

00:20:26.000 No.

00:20:27.000 Of a business that was losing customers at such a rate that they started giving their product away for free and people still weren't taking it?

00:20:32.000 I've never seen that happen before.

00:20:34.000 Hey look, their stock has rebounded a couple points in the past week or so.

00:20:39.000 That could be an example of the people that sold.

00:20:42.000 So I'm looking at the last, in May it dropped 20%.

00:20:44.000 They went from like 68 bucks to 52 or something like that.

00:20:49.000 And, uh, what happened was a bunch of people probably sold.

00:20:52.000 Then the rest of the world was like, uh-oh, and then they sold.

00:20:55.000 It dropped so low, then those original people that sold bought back.

00:20:59.000 So they made some money and they still have the same amount of stock, but then it dropped again.

00:21:03.000 You know, obviously people don't want the stuff.

00:21:05.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:21:05.000 I think maybe some people are trying to buy the dip because they're thinking this can't go on much longer.

00:21:10.000 Yes.

00:21:10.000 It's not retail investors.

00:21:11.000 That's my guess.

00:21:11.000 It's probably firms.

00:21:13.000 And they're doing an analysis and they're like, okay, we've seen it stabilize.

00:21:17.000 It's been three months.

00:21:18.000 You know, we'll buy now and see what happens.

00:21:20.000 People will get over it eventually.

00:21:21.000 You know, our stock price will go back up.

00:21:23.000 I don't know that they will.

00:21:25.000 I hope they don't.

00:21:25.000 I think they've really done a number on themselves, man.

00:21:29.000 Listen, these sales decline at 20.5%.

00:21:33.000 is with them offering these crazy rebates.

00:21:36.000 Right.

00:21:37.000 Now they're offering free beer.

00:21:38.000 They're like, buy our beer.

00:21:40.000 It's $12.99 for a 15-pack.

00:21:41.000 You get a $15 rebate.

00:21:42.000 They call it practically free.

00:21:43.000 I'm like, yo, they're giving you money.

00:21:45.000 They're giving you money.

00:21:47.000 Up to $15.

00:21:48.000 I think they're covering the cost.

00:21:49.000 It is just free.

00:21:50.000 So they're giving their beer away for free.

00:21:53.000 They're trying to stem the bleed.

00:21:56.000 If they don't do this, it would be down 50%.

00:21:59.000 So they're doing this because they know 4th of July weekend, their sales are going to be in the gutter.

00:22:06.000 They've got to do something to keep the number up so that after next week, we can see an improvement.

00:22:12.000 I'll also say, I think that bad 4th of July numbers are going to be particularly abysmal.

00:22:16.000 That is really going to hurt their market value if they don't see any kind of bump for the holiday.

00:22:20.000 That's true.

00:22:22.000 I think the other point here is that even with Free beer.

00:22:26.000 Free beer.

00:22:27.000 Fourth of July weekend.

00:22:30.000 If any of y'all are going to barbecues this weekend, who of you will be caught holding a Bud Light?

00:22:35.000 No!

00:22:35.000 Trump, I will make fun of anyone who has it.

00:22:38.000 I will make fun of anyone who has it at a barbecue.

00:22:40.000 How about this?

00:22:41.000 Shelby Talcott tweets, Maga Mimosa, the featured drink at the NH Federation of Republican Women Lilac Luncheon, where Trump is scheduled to speak shortly.

00:22:48.000 And there's a Bud Light, Budweiser.

00:22:50.000 And I think, is Stella?

00:22:52.000 Is Stella an Anheuser Brand?

00:22:54.000 I'm not sure.

00:22:54.000 I don't know, but they got Bud Light right there.

00:22:56.000 Wouldn't it be hysterical if Trump just started trashing Bud Light while he was there?

00:22:59.000 He's like, I heard some people are saying there was some Bud Light here, like, I don't like Bud Light, quite frankly.

00:23:06.000 That would be the nail in the coffin.

00:23:08.000 We went to an event in West Virginia, it was like a Republican speech being given, and they had a drink, you know, minibar set up, no Bud Light.

00:23:18.000 And I walked up, and the guy opened the fridge, and I could see Bud Light in the fridge.

00:23:21.000 And I was like, oh, I see you got Bud Light down there.

00:23:22.000 He's like, yeah, we don't have it out, though, because it's like they have the stock.

00:23:25.000 If someone asks for it, we'll sell to them, but nobody's gonna buy it.

00:23:28.000 And I'm like, yeah, okay, so all the Anheuser-Busch products were pulled.

00:23:31.000 When we did our event in Texas, we actually told the bar no Anheuser-Busch products.

00:23:37.000 They can't even do that at this Republican event?

00:23:39.000 Here's a question.

00:23:40.000 Here's a tough one for all of you.

00:23:43.000 Trump is guaranteed to win in 2024, but you have to drink a Bud Light.

00:23:47.000 Do you do it?

00:23:48.000 Do you throw that Bud Light back?

00:23:49.000 You'd let people take a picture of you holding a Bud Light, Tim Pool?

00:23:52.000 If it meant Trump is guaranteed to win?

00:23:54.000 Here's the thing.

00:23:55.000 No, no, I don't think you would.

00:23:57.000 Because he wouldn't pardon you for it.

00:23:58.000 He'd be like, Tim, drink that Bud Light.

00:24:01.000 It was awful.

00:24:02.000 Have you seen anything so awful?

00:24:05.000 Don't say it!

00:24:06.000 It's gonna get clipped!

00:24:07.000 Don't you say anything about how you drink Bud Light.

00:24:15.000 I will sacrifice for the greater good of this country by drinking a Bud Light.

00:24:20.000 It means it guaranteed Donald Trump the election.

00:24:22.000 Yeah, Stella is AB in Bev.

00:24:24.000 Look at that, Stella.

00:24:27.000 Tim, I couldn't let you do it.

00:24:28.000 I said, Tim, no.

00:24:31.000 There have been people who have been willing to sacrifice everything to save everyone, Seamus.

00:24:36.000 Oh man, look- And you're saying you- if they said- I was just asking you, quite frankly, I wanted to see your answer.

00:24:41.000 So hold on.

00:24:41.000 I don't think Trump's gonna pardon you.

00:24:43.000 They come to you and say, Donald Trump- okay, a time traveler comes.

00:24:47.000 Uh-huh.

00:24:47.000 And he says, Seamus, you understand the butterfly effect, right?

00:24:49.000 Yes.

00:24:50.000 Okay, I'm telling you right now, if you let me take this picture of you drinking a Bud Light, Trump will get elected.

00:24:56.000 You wouldn't do it!

00:24:56.000 I would not do evil that good might come of it.

00:24:58.000 laughter laughter 1.00

00:25:02.000 Yeah, I would drink the bitch. 1.00

00:25:04.000 Would you do a keg stand? 1.00

00:25:06.000 Bud Light keg stand?

00:25:07.000 And take it all.

00:25:08.000 No, Modelo.

00:25:08.000 You'd do a Modelo?

00:25:09.000 Modelo's fine, though, right?

00:25:10.000 I don't know, is Modelo AB in dev?

00:25:12.000 No, but seriously, come on.

00:25:13.000 Like, I know it's fantastical.

00:25:15.000 No, it's just good to know you feel that way, you know?

00:25:17.000 Is this, like, Trump-sanctioned?

00:25:19.000 Yeah, Modelo's also AB in dev.

00:25:20.000 No, it's not the United States, it's Constellation Brands.

00:25:23.000 Fact check!

00:25:24.000 We got it on their website, AB InBev, our brands.

00:25:26.000 Yep, outside of the United States.

00:25:28.000 So in the U.S., where sales are skyrocketing, it's owned by Constellation Brands, an antitrust lawsuit.

00:25:32.000 Oh yeah, we do not own this delicious beer in the U.S., that's a disclaimer on their website.

00:25:36.000 Wow, it says that, it's interesting.

00:25:37.000 Okay, so did Trump- Come on!

00:25:43.000 If there was some definitive proof, the oracle of time, the CIA's time device, you could look into it and it was like, if all Trump supporters started drinking Bud Light right now- It's the CIA!

00:25:53.000 I wouldn't trust it!

00:25:55.000 It's the CIA's time-telling device!

00:25:56.000 They're only trying to get us to drink Bud Light to boost their sales!

00:25:58.000 That's why they're pulling this whole prank!

00:26:00.000 Trump supporters discover an alien device that can show them the future, And they see a possible future where if they all start drinking Bud Light again, Trump wins, they would.

00:26:08.000 Dude, Bud Light's gonna sigh up us into thinking that this is the truth. 0.78

00:26:11.000 We're like, let's kill the wake, get him re-elected. 0.90

00:26:13.000 That's their marketing strategy. 0.78

00:26:15.000 We look to the future!

00:26:17.000 It's the only way.

00:26:18.000 The only way for Trump to win.

00:26:20.000 Oh my goodness.

00:26:21.000 Actually, to be honest though, I think it would be the opposite.

00:26:23.000 I think if conservatives actually gave in and did not boycott these brands, without a doubt Trump would lose.

00:26:30.000 The fact that we're seeing so many regular people and conservatives actually sustain a boycott suggests to me there will be the ground, the possible ground force for a Trump victory.

00:26:41.000 Yeah, well I think it's also just indicative of the fact that your average person isn't interested in having this nonsense forced on them.

00:26:48.000 As we were discussing earlier, for a while people were okay letting these things happen far away from them where they wouldn't have to see it, but once you start putting in their face they go, you know what?

00:26:56.000 If it's either you stop doing this or it gets forced on me, I choose that you stop doing it because I'm starting to feel like the whole live and let live thing was always a lie.

00:27:08.000 Well, let's talk about what's causing this, because Ian actually purchased this book that's been the subject of great controversy, and I have this tweet.

00:27:16.000 I looked up on Amazon, this book is gay, it's called, and Ian has purchased it right here.

00:27:21.000 On the back it says, this book is for, underlined, everyone, regardless of gender or sexual preference, this book is for anyone who's ever dared to wonder.

00:27:29.000 This book is for you.

00:27:31.000 They sell it to 14 to 17 year olds on Amazon.

00:27:33.000 Amazon says reading age is 14 to 17, you can see here at the bottom.

00:27:38.000 Yet in the book, it teaches you and explains how to use adult sex apps.

00:27:43.000 Yeah, explicitly.

00:27:45.000 So this is what happens.

00:27:47.000 You have, for whatever reason, people on the left, either because they're overt pedophiles or because overt tribalists will We'll defend anything that the right opposes.

00:28:00.000 You end up with a book like this in grade schools.

00:28:03.000 There's a teacher who provided this book to her middle schoolers and they called the police on her and she was removed.

00:28:09.000 And this is what happens.

00:28:12.000 A teacher provided this book to middle schoolers.

00:28:15.000 The book shows pictures of sex acts, explains extremely disgusting activities that would cause serious illness.

00:28:24.000 Like, okay, what people need to understand is there are activities that people engage in when it comes to adult stuff that will injure you and give you infections and diseases, and I'm talking about E. coli.

00:28:36.000 And I don't want to be gross, but let's just I'm gonna have to describe it for y'all.

00:28:41.000 We try to keep it family-friendly, so earmuffs for your kids.

00:28:44.000 But the book describes consuming feces.

00:28:46.000 Okay, you can die from things like this.

00:28:48.000 Wait, are you serious?

00:28:49.000 I didn't even know that was in there.

00:28:51.000 I knew this was perverse.

00:28:52.000 I didn't know that.

00:28:53.000 Oh my gosh.

00:28:55.000 I'm fairly certain.

00:28:56.000 I haven't seen that part yet.

00:28:57.000 I'm fairly certain.

00:28:58.000 We talked about that before.

00:28:59.000 I want to double check, but I'm pretty sure it talks about Yeah.

00:29:03.000 Look, maybe, and also maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, right, because there's a lot of perversity associated with this particular set of life choices.

00:29:12.000 I understand where, why someone might think this is a good idea, because like, okay, they're thinking kids don't have enough sexual education, we need to prep these young kids that don't have good family lives ahead of time.

00:29:22.000 It does.

00:29:22.000 Confirmed.

00:29:23.000 Oh my gosh.

00:29:23.000 Yeah, here, let me see.

00:29:25.000 No, I don't think there's an excuse for it. 0.81

00:29:27.000 Dude, that is sickening. 0.97

00:29:29.000 That is sickening. 0.97

00:29:31.000 Jail. 0.66

00:29:33.000 Jail.

00:29:36.000 So, to clarify though, the description is in the glossary explaining what the act is and how to do it.

00:29:43.000 So, when parents see this stuff, they say, I don't want my kid reading that.

00:29:49.000 And what happens?

00:29:50.000 You get that woman from the majority report, Emma, being like, I don't believe in censorship.

00:29:54.000 I'm like, should this be in school?

00:29:56.000 She's like, well, I don't agree with censorship.

00:29:58.000 She wants kids to read this stuff.

00:29:59.000 But then you ask her if Penthouse should be in schools and then the conversation just Changed after that like she didn't say yes, and she didn't really say no.

00:30:06.000 I don't think I don't remember exactly But it's a good point.

00:30:08.000 Do you want penthouse in schools?

00:30:10.000 Do you want like nudie magazines and for 13 and 14 year olds to look at there's pictures of nude?

00:30:15.000 There's a drawing of a naked woman right in there on like page what I don't know 188 or something like that like Explicit with arrows pointing to the different private parts and like that's a kids need to understand private parts.

00:30:25.000 Those are private Those are for you if someone ever messes with your privacy and your private you tell an adult you tell your parents like that is This kind of... But I'm coming from a different generation, man.

00:30:36.000 I didn't have the internet until I was like 14.

00:30:39.000 I didn't see porn until I was 14.

00:30:40.000 I didn't... And for young kids that slip onto some of that at the age of 6, I don't know.

00:30:46.000 It's a different reality for me, how you teach kids about this kind of thing.

00:30:49.000 It even has a... They drew a picture of Grindr.

00:30:52.000 Oh my gosh.

00:30:52.000 Like in the back.

00:30:53.000 Explains what a glory hole is.

00:30:55.000 On page 182, it says, note, Grindr is specifically for 18 and up.

00:31:01.000 Emma said it was a good book when it was brought up, by the way, too.

00:31:03.000 She's like, oh, it's good.

00:31:04.000 And then you guys were like, well, there's a description of gay hookup apps, and someone was showing this to 10-year-olds, and she's like, why do you get these anecdotes? 0.72

00:31:13.000 If a child reads this, and comes in the back, and comes to the back, that explains consuming feces, you could die.

00:31:21.000 Why would Amazon think a 14 to 17 year old should be reading something like this?

00:31:26.000 And they make the argument that, oh, kids have access to the internet these days.

00:31:29.000 Maybe they shouldn't!

00:31:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:30.000 These websites are supposed to have blocks on them.

00:31:32.000 You're not supposed to allow kids to be looking at this stuff.

00:31:34.000 The idea that, well, no, kids can see other disgusting things in other disgusting places, so let's show them disgusting things in their school where they ideally should be safe from this kind of perversity.

00:31:44.000 I understand.

00:31:44.000 It even explains amyl nitrate.

00:31:47.000 Wasn't that like bath salts, or is that like how you... What is that?

00:31:51.000 I'm not gonna get into it.

00:31:52.000 Alright.

00:31:54.000 It's a substance used in... Like crazy sex parties and all that stuff?

00:32:00.000 We'll leave it at that.

00:32:01.000 Yeah.

00:32:01.000 Man, on 182, they're like, Grindr is explicitly... This is what I don't get.

00:32:05.000 I understand you want to tell a kid ahead of time things they gotta watch out for in life.

00:32:08.000 And here are the phone numbers in the back of organizations to call to get more information and more access.

00:32:13.000 That's disgusting.

00:32:14.000 But they call it advocacy wholly.

00:32:15.000 There's a difference between warning children about what's to come and showing them how to do the things they're not supposed to do.

00:32:21.000 When it says, this is for 18 and up, this app, but here's exactly how you use it.

00:32:25.000 You upload a photo.

00:32:26.000 And it says, you upload a photo.

00:32:28.000 It tells them, you do it.

00:32:30.000 You do this thing.

00:32:32.000 I'm going to read it piece by piece.

00:32:34.000 It's just so disturbing.

00:32:35.000 Note, Grindr also has an age minimum of 18 years old.

00:32:38.000 It's in bold.

00:32:39.000 Then the next paragraph.

00:32:40.000 How sex apps work.

00:32:43.000 Upload a tiny pic of yourself to the app.

00:32:44.000 Like, it's for 18 year olds!

00:32:46.000 You don't tell them how to do it?

00:32:48.000 Also the idea that you can get away with something like that in a book that's being marketed to children by simply saying, oh you have to be 18 or up.

00:32:55.000 Well, this stuff is in schools.

00:32:56.000 It's being shown to children.

00:32:57.000 Amazon's selling it to children as young as 14 years old.

00:32:59.000 There was a teacher who was showing it to 10-year-olds.

00:33:01.000 And the idea that you would give somebody a guide on how to use these hookup apps, as if it's rocket science and you need a guide to know how to log in.

00:33:08.000 You're clearly directing these kids to do this.

00:33:10.000 Like, you're clearly directing them to do this. 0.97

00:33:13.000 So sick. 0.98

00:33:14.000 So sick.

00:33:15.000 And so, the main point was, Amazon says, 14 to 17-year-olds, What do you think would happen if you went to a playground with a bunch of 14-year-olds and started teaching them how to use Grindr?

00:33:27.000 Jail!

00:33:28.000 You'd be arrested.

00:33:28.000 As you should be.

00:33:29.000 Yep, rightfully so. 0.72

00:33:31.000 But when it comes to what they're doing in schools, it's all protected.

00:33:34.000 And then when we ask a simple question to a leftist who comes on this show, who comes on the Culture War podcast, how hard is it for them to just be like, now I get it, those books shouldn't be in school?

00:33:47.000 Instead they say, I don't believe in censorship, so allow it.

00:33:50.000 And I'm like, what?

00:33:51.000 Yeah, no, but if you wanted to have a Bible in a school library, right?

00:33:55.000 It's so funny how two-faced they are.

00:33:58.000 It's clear that they're not interested in either free speech or combating censorship

00:34:02.000 because none of them were saying that schools not being able to teach creationism meant

00:34:08.000 that Christians didn't have free speech.

00:34:10.000 All the arguments they're making for this perverse nonsense are arguments that they obviously didn't make in favor of people teaching their children their values about the Christian faith.

00:34:18.000 They weren't saying, Kids get old enough, they're gonna learn about Christianity anyway, so we should tell them about it now. 0.92

00:34:24.000 Like, that's kept as far away from public schools as possible, but guidebooks that teach children how to eat feces and use gay hookup apps are not kept away from schools for some reason, and when someone tries to keep it away from schools, we call them a tyrant. 0.98

00:34:36.000 That's where our culture's at right now.

00:34:37.000 Look, parents call the police on a teacher who showed this to their kids.

00:34:41.000 To the middle school kids.

00:34:42.000 Good for them.

00:34:43.000 Yeah.

00:34:44.000 This is why Target's getting stock dropped.

00:34:47.000 This is why Bud Light's suffering.

00:34:49.000 Because these companies, they're just marching along like, don't know, don't care, we're just gonna do whatever we're told to do.

00:34:55.000 And parents are saying, no.

00:34:57.000 Right.

00:34:58.000 Nah, we've had enough of this stuff.

00:35:00.000 There was that, remember Nick Merckx, the gamer?

00:35:05.000 When he was like, leave the kids alone, and they went nuts on him.

00:35:07.000 Yep.

00:35:08.000 And I guess the sentiment was, he recently became a father.

00:35:12.000 Yup.

00:35:13.000 Now you get it.

00:35:14.000 Now you're like, how dare you show my children these things?

00:35:17.000 And parents started seeing it, and now there's a backlash.

00:35:20.000 I think this could be one of the Democrats' biggest weaknesses.

00:35:24.000 Trump was recently at a rally, and he was like, you know, I could talk, I'm paraphrasing, but he said something like, I talk about lowering taxes, nobody cares, I talk about culture war stuff, everybody starts cheering.

00:35:33.000 Yes.

00:35:34.000 Because taxes are like a boring thing we deal with periodically and try and figure out the right number.

00:35:39.000 Typically we want it to go down.

00:35:40.000 Everybody wants it to go down.

00:35:42.000 But right now we're dealing with an existential threat targeting children.

00:35:46.000 This has got people riled up like crazy.

00:35:49.000 Yeah, and again, rightfully so.

00:35:52.000 I'm curious, what path forward do you see here?

00:35:54.000 What do you think families should be doing?

00:35:56.000 What do you think it's possible to do within the guidelines of the law, also as a lawyer?

00:36:01.000 I mean, who can be sued?

00:36:03.000 Who can charges be pressed against for these kinds of things?

00:36:05.000 Look, I mean, there's a lot of parents who are stepping up across the country who are saying no more and doing things like, I mean, look, if you're a parent and you have a teacher showing your kids explosive material, You should, I think, and under the right circumstances, report it to law enforcement.

00:36:21.000 But you also have all kinds of other ways that you can do things.

00:36:23.000 You can sue the school district.

00:36:24.000 You can demand that the materials are removed from the libraries.

00:36:28.000 I mean, just simple steps.

00:36:30.000 Showing up.

00:36:30.000 Going to school board meetings.

00:36:31.000 Showing up.

00:36:32.000 Talking to your teachers.

00:36:33.000 Talking to your principals.

00:36:34.000 Because ultimately, You know, we are in that place, I think, as a culture, as a country, where it is a societal inflection point.

00:36:44.000 Whereas, you know, which direction do we go?

00:36:47.000 Do we tolerate more of this?

00:36:48.000 Because that's what we're going to get if we don't stop it, right?

00:36:51.000 Or do we say no enough is enough?

00:36:53.000 And so a lot of folks are using the courts, using courts of public opinion to advance the ball and try to defend I wouldn't say even conservative values.

00:37:03.000 I mean, they are conservative values, but just traditional American values, human values, things that have been understood for millennia and that now are just being tolerated.

00:37:15.000 That book is disgusting.

00:37:16.000 It has no place in a school.

00:37:19.000 Snopes highlighted a chapter, a section from the book.

00:37:23.000 I want to find it in the book.

00:37:25.000 Who put the notes in the book?

00:37:26.000 Was that was it?

00:37:26.000 Garrett did that.

00:37:27.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:28.000 So maybe, maybe the notes show, uh, no.

00:37:31.000 There's a, is that it?

00:37:34.000 How to argue with Sodom and Gomorrah?

00:37:36.000 Yeah, so Ian and I were going back and forth between the show.

00:37:39.000 He was like reading the supposed, like, these objections to the Bible and they were all very weak.

00:37:45.000 They're all very bad.

00:37:46.000 And also objections to Islamic teaching on it.

00:37:48.000 The book instructs young kids, I'm going to say kids because it's sold to 14 to 17 year olds.

00:37:52.000 The book instructs kids how to argue against religion, Christianity, Islam. 0.99

00:37:57.000 I want to talk about gay sex. 1.00

00:37:58.000 So right at the beginning of the chapter that starts talking about sex, it says, 0.99

00:38:03.000 this chapter is about sex, therefore it has sex in it. Well, duh. If you're a younger reader and

00:38:08.000 you feel you aren't ready for the finer details of same-sex pairings, then simply skip this whole

00:38:11.000 chapter. However, before you do, I'd like to remind you that we taught you all about straight 0.91

00:38:17.000 sex when you were 11 years old during sixth grade.

00:38:19.000 The fact that they didn't also teach you what same-sex couples do is nothing less than institutionalized homophobia.

00:38:25.000 Straight sex was presented as the norm to make 5% of the population feel abnormal. 0.99

00:38:29.000 Is there something icky about gay sex? 1.00

00:38:31.000 Is there something wrong with it? 1.00

00:38:32.000 I challenge any politician to discuss this with me.

00:38:34.000 I will ruin them.

00:38:35.000 This chapter is simply all the stuff teachers should be saying if they want to be inclusive of people with same-sex feelings.

00:38:41.000 Two things I want to point out.

00:38:42.000 The first sentence, the first couple of sentences in the introduction is, if you feel you aren't ready, skip this.

00:38:49.000 It then says, however, before you do, I want to remind you, meaning, if you're not ready, consider why you should read it anyway.

00:38:57.000 That's kind of insane, but more importantly, When we teach sex ed in schools, we are not explaining to children how to use bondage gear.

00:39:06.000 We're not teaching children about sex clubs or apps.

00:39:11.000 Sex education is about reproduction. 0.89

00:39:15.000 Maybe I'm wrong, and if it's happening, it shouldn't be, but What I understand about sex ed is it's like, here are the reproductive organs.

00:39:23.000 Here's how they work.

00:39:24.000 Thank you, students.

00:39:25.000 Here's the test.

00:39:27.000 Or if they even have one.

00:39:28.000 This book is...

00:39:30.000 Eating poop?

00:39:32.000 That's wild.

00:39:33.000 There's other parts in there that I can't even begin to describe.

00:39:35.000 I know.

00:39:36.000 I want a full, uncensored discussion on this book.

00:39:38.000 But that is not sex ed.

00:39:41.000 That is fetish education.

00:39:44.000 Exactly.

00:39:44.000 It's perversity education.

00:39:46.000 And they're trying to justify it like, but we taught kids about general reproduction, therefore you should teach them about Eating feces?

00:39:53.000 Like, what?

00:39:54.000 Yeah, no.

00:39:54.000 That's disgusting.

00:39:55.000 That is what's making parents say, enough.

00:39:58.000 Well, and also, I think this is something people fail to realize.

00:40:01.000 There's a conversation I very distinctly remember having in high school.

00:40:04.000 Another student said to me, while we were in our sex ed class, and they were being completely unironic, they said, how do you think people figured this stuff out before they had sex ed?

00:40:15.000 And I said, People don't need to go take a class to know how to have sex. 0.99

00:40:23.000 The purpose of sex ed is to tell you what not to do, right?

00:40:27.000 You're going to get older, you're going to become an adult, you're going to start engaging in these activities.

00:40:32.000 What's important is that when you were young, when you were developing, your parents ideally had a conversation with you about what the boundaries are and the things that you shouldn't be doing.

00:40:40.000 Because you're going to figure out what you can do.

00:40:42.000 I don't think it goes that... I think that's over the top.

00:40:47.000 Sex Ed when I was a kid was like, here is a diagram of the male reproductive organs.

00:40:52.000 Well, but when I say what not to do, by the way, I'm not saying I'm not saying like giving people details on these kinds of things and saying don't do that kids.

00:41:00.000 I mean just telling them this is this is sex.

00:41:02.000 This is what it does.

00:41:03.000 It makes people and it's it's something you should do with your spouse and not with someone before you meet Your spouse.

00:41:09.000 That's what I mean by what you should not do.

00:41:11.000 It was there to place a restriction, to let people know, these are the things that are going to make your life more difficult if you do them.

00:41:17.000 Ideally, you're going to wait until you're married, you're going to get married, you're going to have a family.

00:41:20.000 Don't go fooling around outside of marriage.

00:41:22.000 We had a super chat earlier.

00:41:25.000 Someone said that they were out of booze for the rest of the week, and they were hoping I would not say two specific words.

00:41:31.000 Because otherwise they would have to drink if I said these two words.

00:41:34.000 Sooner, Rick Scott.

00:41:34.000 I know what words. Can I say them? Definitely civil.

00:41:38.000 You can say it, because if I say it, they have to drink, but if you say it, it's okay.

00:41:41.000 Just point to me whenever you want. Civil war.

00:41:44.000 So we have this tweet from Rick Scott. He said, I'm warning socialists and communists

00:41:49.000 not to travel to Florida. They are not welcome in the Sunshine State.

00:41:53.000 I'm going to play the clip for you.

00:41:55.000 Senator Rick Scott here.

00:41:59.000 Let me give you a travel warning.

00:42:01.000 If you're a socialist, communist, somebody that believes in big government, I would think twice.

00:42:07.000 Think twice if you're thinking about taking a vacation or moving to Florida.

00:42:11.000 We're the free state of Florida.

00:42:12.000 We actually don't believe in socialism.

00:42:14.000 We actually know people, and some people want to say lived under it.

00:42:17.000 We know people lived under socialism.

00:42:19.000 It's not good.

00:42:21.000 It's not good for anybody.

00:42:22.000 So if you're thinking about it, if you think about coming to Florida and you're a socialist or communist, Think twice.

00:42:27.000 We like freedom, liberty, capitalism, things like that.

00:42:32.000 Say it!

00:42:33.000 Civil War.

00:42:33.000 I am kidding, by the way.

00:42:36.000 Yeah.

00:42:36.000 But a lot of people were tweeting about it and tweeting at me.

00:42:39.000 Yeah, they're freaking out.

00:42:40.000 What?

00:42:41.000 I can't go to the place that I'm constantly claiming is the worst part of America?

00:42:44.000 No, you can't.

00:42:45.000 You should be happy.

00:42:47.000 There is something about people- You still can, he's just telling you you won't like it.

00:42:50.000 No, no, you can't.

00:42:50.000 I'm fine with them thinking they can't.

00:42:52.000 There's definitely an aspect of taking things for granted in the modern age that I don't think a lot of people understand.

00:42:58.000 That if they trashed this country, what kind of lockdown could actually, like, what could be lost?

00:43:03.000 By the way- The ability to walk around freely and stuff like that.

00:43:06.000 Do you think that if Gavin Newsom or some governor of a left-wing state went, no fascists are welcome here, that people would be going, whoa, he's excluding people based on their politics.

00:43:16.000 What about tolerance?

00:43:17.000 What would happen to tolerance, man?

00:43:17.000 What's happening?

00:43:19.000 I gotta be honest, if Gavin Newsom made a video and he said fascists aren't welcome in California, I'd be like, okay.

00:43:23.000 I'd be like, how did you get elected?

00:43:26.000 Right.

00:43:27.000 But my view is that doesn't apply to any of us.

00:43:30.000 It's just a term that means bad guy.

00:43:33.000 So it's like, okay, whatever.

00:43:34.000 But when he said socialists and communists aren't welcome, leftists legitimately got mad.

00:43:39.000 They were like, how dare you!

00:43:40.000 They're like, well, why not?

00:43:41.000 Yeah, why can't it?

00:43:42.000 What is this?

00:43:43.000 We make everywhere we go better.

00:43:45.000 I saw, I think it was a tweet from Michael Mallison.

00:43:47.000 He was just, he said something about like the fracturing of the states is going as planned or something like that.

00:43:51.000 I should actually pull that one up.

00:43:53.000 Try and find it.

00:43:54.000 But yeah, I mean, I don't take it seriously, to be completely honest.

00:43:59.000 But I do think that when you look at the election in Florida, when you look at, here's what Michael Malice said, our nation's growing ideological self-segregation is proceeding nicely.

00:44:11.000 Actually, it's a really good point.

00:44:12.000 It is.

00:44:13.000 People leaving California who are more conservative leaning, going to Texas and Florida, people leaving New York for the same reason.

00:44:19.000 Where does his self-segregation lead to?

00:44:20.000 I just love that he says he's warning them.

00:44:23.000 I'm warning you!

00:44:25.000 You're not welcome!

00:44:26.000 A decentralized federation of state authority.

00:44:29.000 I mean, I think that's kind of what we're supposed to lead.

00:44:31.000 That's where we were, that's where we came from.

00:44:32.000 And then what happens when you have... It's one thing when California's a sanctuary state, and they let illegal immigrants, criminal immigrants, enter their state. 0.80

00:44:43.000 But then, these people who enter can now easily access any other part of the country.

00:44:47.000 So what happens when you're Arizona, dealing with a border crisis, and then California keeps their border open, lets people come in illegally, and then, very easily, they cross into Arizona?

00:44:58.000 Okay, if this hyperpolarization keeps happening, Arizona sets up a border.

00:45:04.000 They set up a checkpoint.

00:45:05.000 And they say, we have way too many people coming in from California that we don't know if are citizens, so we're gonna do a border checkpoint, and now you gotta show your ID if you wanna get through.

00:45:13.000 You know, it's reasonable.

00:45:14.000 It's a big inconvenience for 99.9% of the people going from California to Arizona, but it's maybe for a weekend they could try it.

00:45:22.000 I don't know.

00:45:23.000 That's a big cost.

00:45:26.000 Not that much.

00:45:28.000 Just administrative costs, I'm thinking.

00:45:29.000 Putting a booth.

00:45:34.000 I don't think it's that expensive to put a couple booths on a few highways that go in and out of the state.

00:45:39.000 Do they, like, check the trunk of every car that came by and stuff?

00:45:42.000 No, they just stop and say, howdy, what's your business in Arizona, where you headed?

00:45:45.000 And then I'm just driving through, I'm like, okay, have a nice day.

00:45:47.000 Can I see your ID kind of thing?

00:45:48.000 Got an ID.

00:45:49.000 So if you don't have an ID, you won't be able to go across state border?

00:45:53.000 I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying that's where we head.

00:45:55.000 That's where we go.

00:45:57.000 We're getting to the point where, look, we've already talked about how in some of these blue states, there's child sex change sanctuaries.

00:46:06.000 There's already the fear.

00:46:07.000 This is what I'm worried about.

00:46:09.000 Some kid on TikTok sees all these videos, Finds a book like this, calls the number, meets a stranger on the internet who says, I'll drive you to Washington and get you your treatment.

00:46:20.000 Effectively kidnapping the kid, bring him to Washington, and Washington says it's legal.

00:46:25.000 Now what happens if you're in Montana or Wyoming?

00:46:27.000 Wyoming is the number one Trump-supporting state in the country.

00:46:31.000 What happens if you're from Wyoming and someone takes your kid and brings him to Washington?

00:46:36.000 Now you've got a very, very serious border dispute because Washington said, oh, that guy who kidnapped your kid?

00:46:43.000 He was doing your kid a favor.

00:46:45.000 And then you say, I want my kid returned to me, and they say, no, because you're the criminal.

00:46:49.000 Federal government doesn't intervene.

00:46:50.000 What happens?

00:46:52.000 You are going to get Wyoming being like, we're going to set up checkpoints to make sure people aren't kidnapping children to bring them to Washington for lewd and lascivious reasons.

00:47:02.000 Yeah, you've got to have the feds.

00:47:03.000 The feds are supposed to protect- They're not going to do it!

00:47:05.000 That's the only way to prevent these states from going rogue is to have federal enforcement and oversight.

00:47:11.000 You need to protect- Then you're talking about stronger federal law enforcement and we don't have that.

00:47:17.000 If anything, the feds will protect Washington and the kidnapper.

00:47:20.000 That's so messed up.

00:47:21.000 Yeah, even under Trump.

00:47:23.000 Even under Trump.

00:47:24.000 Trump made the mistake of thinking that these people would operate any differently.

00:47:29.000 What do you mean?

00:47:30.000 Who are these people?

00:47:31.000 The FBI.

00:47:33.000 Trump, Trump, Trump literally thought- I can't- That dude made so many mistakes in trusting these people over and over and over again.

00:47:39.000 Yeah, it was like he was on autopilot.

00:47:41.000 I think he just actually had faith in the system.

00:47:41.000 That was weird.

00:47:44.000 I think Trump thought it was busted, but he could fix it, and he saw the general good in the United States.

00:47:51.000 I think now it's the opposite.

00:47:52.000 Now he's like, these people are corrupt, the whole thing's gotta go.

00:47:55.000 But this is my point.

00:47:57.000 When we're looking at Rick Scott jokingly say socialists and commies don't come here and then the left actually gets mad because they actually are socialists and commies.

00:48:05.000 Like we're heading to a dark place.

00:48:07.000 How would you guys define socialist?

00:48:08.000 What would make somebody a socialist?

00:48:11.000 Public ownership of the means of production?

00:48:13.000 Yeah, so, yeah, communism is like worker ownership over the means of production and then how socialism is different from communism changes based on who you're talking to.

00:48:21.000 Some say that, like, social... I think, as a general rule, when you look at how they've operated in the world, communism usually happens because of, like, some revolution or state takeover and socialism is usually voted in, but that's not actually definitive.

00:48:33.000 Well, they... Some say socialism is economic and communism is political.

00:48:37.000 Yeah, well, people say communism encompasses everything, right?

00:48:40.000 So even your culture becomes modified by it, where socialism just refers to econ.

00:48:44.000 But there are a bunch of different ways people define it, and I've heard it defined even by official sources multiple different ways.

00:48:50.000 So, like, every communist state is socialist, but every socialist state is not necessarily communist?

00:48:56.000 Yeah, yeah, I suppose so.

00:48:58.000 What would that be, like, state ownership is communist, but if it's just state... Communism is typically characterized by a single party controlling everything in like an authoritarian or authorocratic mean.

00:49:12.000 Gulagging people, disappearing people.

00:49:13.000 Socialism is where the people own everything. 0.98

00:49:16.000 Socialism can actually... Socialism is interesting because there's like a threshold for it, right?

00:49:21.000 If you're looking at a spectrum, you could argue America is a capitalist country, right?

00:49:26.000 Yeah, except half of our money is taxed and goes to the public.

00:49:30.000 So actually the United States is not a capitalist economy, it's a mixed economy.

00:49:33.000 At a certain point, you can call it socialist or capitalist.

00:49:38.000 What's that line?

00:49:39.000 Up to you.

00:49:40.000 Maybe 70%?

00:49:41.000 If 70% of your income is kept by you and 30% goes to the public, that's the threshold for being a capitalist country.

00:49:47.000 Anything from 70 up to 100 of the money you keep is capitalist, and then anything in between is mixed, and then 70% taxation and higher is socialist?

00:49:56.000 I don't know.

00:49:57.000 To be fair, it's not just about government taxation.

00:49:59.000 Yeah.

00:50:00.000 Socialism is basically like, the workers own the factory.

00:50:03.000 Communism is like, everyone owns everything, but there's actually a military in control and they'll execute you if you disagree.

00:50:09.000 But it can be a bit vague.

00:50:12.000 The simple thing is, socialism is basic economics.

00:50:16.000 The further you go towards the public owning everything, is the further you go towards socialism.

00:50:20.000 The further you go towards private ownership, the further you go towards capitalism.

00:50:24.000 And capitalism is better.

00:50:26.000 Yeah, unquestionably.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, I think also, like, just in terms of how the word is usually understood, communism has much more baggage associated with it on the cultural question, which I think is part of why people associate it with a complete cultural takeover, and because it's also what you saw in communist states like the USSR or communist China.

00:50:47.000 And so people will almost view socialism as just sort of a moderate form of communism, but that's not really an accurate way of looking at it either.

00:50:53.000 We have a lot of people pointing out there already are border checkpoints.

00:50:56.000 Some saying when you generally stop at state borders to pay tolls already.

00:51:01.000 So those could easily be modified to stop and check your ID.

00:51:04.000 Other people mentioned that there are way stations and agricultural checkpoints already between states.

00:51:08.000 I'm saying it becomes like Country to country, effectively.

00:51:13.000 Arizona's dealing with a mass influx of illegal immigrants.

00:51:17.000 Texas is as well.

00:51:19.000 At a certain point, they might just be like, we have to control our borders. 0.93

00:51:22.000 But that would be like, if someone, because there'll be vans and trucks, you need to stop the van, come around out back, open the van, look through their stuff.

00:51:29.000 Dog walks around the truck.

00:51:30.000 Yep, absolutely.

00:51:31.000 That's a lot of, a lot of labor.

00:51:33.000 It sure is, and I'm saying... I don't know if it's a bad thing, though.

00:51:36.000 Whether you think it's good or bad is not the point.

00:51:38.000 What matters is, If we are segregating to this degree, it will happen.

00:51:45.000 When COVID happened, they had checkpoints.

00:51:48.000 I think Connecticut had checkpoints because they didn't want New Yorkers fleeing because of the lockdowns into Connecticut for safe haven.

00:51:54.000 So they were like checking license plates and stuff like that.

00:51:57.000 Yo, crazy.

00:51:58.000 And who would have ever thought that would have happened before COVID, right?

00:52:01.000 To your point.

00:52:01.000 Yeah.

00:52:02.000 Now it's like, You know, Europe used to have checkpoints between the countries, and then you get the European Union and the Schengen Zone.

00:52:08.000 But I think the U.S.

00:52:09.000 is actually headed in that direction.

00:52:10.000 Because you're gonna have, I think Wyoming and Washington are a really good example.

00:52:16.000 I think you got Idaho in between.

00:52:19.000 So maybe it'll be Idaho, actually.

00:52:21.000 Idaho's a pretty conservative spot.

00:52:22.000 And they're gonna get issues.

00:52:23.000 Wyoming's gonna be like, why are you allowing these people to take our kids through your state? 0.96

00:52:27.000 And they're gonna say, okay.

00:52:28.000 And Wyoming's gonna be like, we expect you to cooperate with us on law enforcement.

00:52:31.000 So Idaho's gonna be like, we got this corridor that goes to Montana to Washington, whatever, we're gonna set up checkpoints.

00:52:37.000 It's, I think, what is it, one highway?

00:52:39.000 It's probably some smaller roads, but I think it's one highway.

00:52:41.000 Up north, yeah, it's one highway.

00:52:43.000 I'm actually fearful of how the federal government might try to crack down on that.

00:52:47.000 How so?

00:52:48.000 Well, I could just see if you have a regime that's as far to the left as the one that's in power now is, and that wants to push for this mutilation of children, I can imagine them saying, no, you can't tell someone they're not able to pass through your state in order to get their quote-unquote gender-affirming care.

00:53:01.000 To be fair, there's one federal highway, one big, it's I-90.

00:53:05.000 Right, one interstate.

00:53:06.000 But then there are a bunch of smaller roads.

00:53:08.000 Smaller state highways, yes.

00:53:09.000 But to be completely honest, I can count them.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, it's not a lot.

00:53:13.000 I can go all the way- all the way- what are we looking at?

00:53:15.000 Up north, you mean?

00:53:17.000 So, from- if I'm looking at just out of Washington, you can- you can- man, it's really annoying.

00:53:22.000 Yeah, it's rugged up there.

00:53:23.000 There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

00:53:30.000 And in wintertime, a lot of those will be- Ten. 0.99

00:53:31.000 Ten roads.

00:53:32.000 So, if you got to the point where Washington- there actually was an issue of kids being trafficked into Washington for child sex changes, And states like Idaho were like, no way.

00:53:43.000 I mean, actually, let's use Idaho as an example.

00:53:45.000 Relatively conservative place.

00:53:47.000 They don't want their kids being brought there. 0.97

00:53:49.000 So what?

00:53:50.000 All they need is 10 checkpoints?

00:53:53.000 Yo, that's 20 guys.

00:53:55.000 20 guys on rotation, working a border.

00:53:57.000 Yeah, and like I said, in the wintertime, a lot of those places are not even- you can't navigate them.

00:54:01.000 They're like, covered in snow, there's no way through them.

00:54:03.000 It's mostly just gonna be one or two roads.

00:54:04.000 They might exit to another state.

00:54:06.000 You'd have to have your entire border blocked off or covered.

00:54:10.000 I don't have to do that.

00:54:11.000 It's so rugged, dude.

00:54:12.000 No, Ian.

00:54:13.000 It's ten roads!

00:54:14.000 The whole border!

00:54:15.000 You're just talking about the western border?

00:54:17.000 Going east, yes.

00:54:18.000 If you're in Washington, it is ten roads out of Washington.

00:54:21.000 You have to go south.

00:54:22.000 Oh, they said Idaho, okay.

00:54:23.000 Into Idaho.

00:54:24.000 So, Washington into Idaho.

00:54:26.000 There are ten roads.

00:54:27.000 There's probably many smaller ones, but there are ten main roads, one main interstate highway, and then I think a couple state highways, and I counted on the map, zooming in, even to the small ones, it looks like it's about ten.

00:54:37.000 So, I'm not saying, I know for a fact it will happen, I'm saying if this is the path, we head down.

00:54:43.000 Abortion is also a big issue.

00:54:45.000 What happens if, I've talked about it before, you got a man and a woman, they're together, they're maybe married.

00:54:52.000 They get pregnant. 0.91

00:54:54.000 Start fighting.

00:54:55.000 Woman says, I need to leave this guy. 1.00

00:54:57.000 For whatever reason.

00:54:59.000 And he says, I forbid you from getting an abortion. 0.99

00:55:01.000 And she says, you can't.

00:55:03.000 Idaho doesn't allow it, so then she goes to Washington, and he goes to the state and says, she's kidnapped my child.

00:55:09.000 A better example is states that have completely banned it.

00:55:12.000 I think, like Oklahoma banned it outright.

00:55:15.000 Is it Oklahoma?

00:55:15.000 Who banned it outright?

00:55:17.000 Texas.

00:55:17.000 Texas?

00:55:18.000 Are you sure?

00:55:20.000 Let me double check on that.

00:55:25.000 I think Oklahoma was a total ban.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, I mean it might have been Oklahoma had the total ban.

00:55:32.000 New York Times actually has a tracker for which states have done a complete outright ban.

00:55:37.000 So a full ban in effect versus six-week ban.

00:55:41.000 You said Idaho?

00:55:42.000 No, Oklahoma.

00:55:44.000 Yes, Oklahoma does have a full-on ban.

00:55:46.000 Full on ban.

00:55:46.000 That's also if we're going to go with the NYPD.

00:55:48.000 And in Colorado, right?

00:55:50.000 So let's say someone, uh, there's a couple in Oklahoma.

00:55:54.000 Something happens and the woman says, you know what? 0.88

00:55:55.000 I just don't want to have this baby because it'll, it'll, it'll keep me locked with this guy.

00:56:00.000 Colorado is, it's right on the, this is crazy.

00:56:05.000 They share a border.

00:56:07.000 Colorado, let's see, what road do we got here?

00:56:10.000 385, Campo to Boise City.

00:56:12.000 So you can have a woman who's in Oklahoma, drive 100 miles, cross the border into Colorado where there's no restriction at all.

00:56:22.000 What happens when that father says, my unborn son has been kidnapped and is going to be executed?

00:56:28.000 What does Oklahoma do to prevent that from happening?

00:56:30.000 Nothing.

00:56:31.000 The federal government won't do anything either.

00:56:33.000 You're going to have border checkpoints.

00:56:35.000 And Oklahoma's going to be like, ma'am, why are you leaving?

00:56:38.000 Why are you going to Colorado?

00:56:40.000 Yep.

00:56:40.000 there's going to be serious just outright and and even the left agrees on this one

00:56:45.000 because the left has talked about this that they're gonna be trying to stop women from fleeing to

00:56:48.000 get abortions in states where it's illegal 0.52

00:56:50.000 i think that what i brought up you need border if you're gonna do that you need like border protection up

00:56:55.000 on the entire state of oklahoma because although it does share a border with

00:56:59.000 colorado in one spot people could go through like new mexico no west and then

00:57:04.000 Or they could go south and then west and north to avoid that border checkpoint.

00:57:07.000 And they can get on a plane.

00:57:08.000 They can go to Kansas and then west into Colorado, so you would need a robust border patrol system.

00:57:12.000 No, you wouldn't.

00:57:12.000 You are incorrect.

00:57:13.000 I mean, if you're trying to prevent people from leaving the state, that is not the way to go.

00:57:17.000 They're going to try and prevent, specifically, the trafficking for the purpose of abortion.

00:57:23.000 But how would you have to get her to say she's doing it at the border crossing too?

00:57:26.000 And why would she just be like, no, I'm just going on a vacation?

00:57:30.000 Ian, I think you misunderstand.

00:57:31.000 That's irrelevant.

00:57:34.000 You will get enough people in Oklahoma who will be like, we demand a checkpoint.

00:57:39.000 Well, but do you want to do facial recognition, eye scanning, and DNA testing?

00:57:44.000 Ian, you completely misunderstand.

00:57:46.000 Simpsons bear patrol, you guys remember that?

00:57:48.000 A bear one day wanders through Springfield, so they all panic and demand a bear patrol and get it.

00:57:53.000 It doesn't matter what you think they need to do, need is immaterial.

00:57:57.000 If enough people say, You know, I had a girlfriend, she got pregnant, and then she crossed the border to get an abortion, and now my son is dead, was killed, or my daughter was killed, they will just vote, and the state will do it, and sure, you could argue it's ineffective, that's not the point.

00:58:13.000 The point is, people will say it, and it will have to happen.

00:58:16.000 You cannot have two states, side by side, where one has totally banned abortion, and one has totally unrestricted abortion.

00:58:23.000 It is very obvious what will happen.

00:58:25.000 Oklahoma will say to these women, it is illegal to get an abortion. 1.00

00:58:28.000 The women will then be like, I'm going to Colorado. 1.00

00:58:31.000 And they'll say, we're setting up a checkpoint at the border to Colorado.

00:58:34.000 And then we're going to arrest you?

00:58:35.000 I mean, what's the- Yes!

00:58:36.000 It's illegal!

00:58:36.000 For what?

00:58:37.000 Arrest her for what?

00:58:37.000 It's illegal!

00:58:38.000 They totally ban- What's illegal?

00:58:39.000 Crossing the border?

00:58:41.000 Okay, Ian.

00:58:42.000 You don't get it.

00:58:43.000 I 100% get it.

00:58:44.000 She has not gotten an abortion at this stage of illegality you're claiming.

00:58:47.000 Okay.

00:58:48.000 So what's illegal?

00:58:49.000 So when... There is a prosecution.

00:58:53.000 Okay?

00:58:53.000 Donald Trump.

00:58:54.000 Let's use Trump as an example.

00:58:55.000 Did Trump break the law with classified documents?

00:58:59.000 Yes or no?

00:59:00.000 No.

00:59:00.000 No?

00:59:01.000 Hillary Clinton had classified documents.

00:59:03.000 She wasn't prosecuted.

00:59:05.000 Joe Biden has classified documents, he wasn't prosecuted.

00:59:07.000 Donald Trump has classified documents, he does get prosecuted.

00:59:10.000 So what's the crime?

00:59:11.000 It doesn't matter!

00:59:13.000 A state prosecutor will find something on the books, show me the man, show me the crime.

00:59:17.000 My point is, if Oklahoma says it is illegal, and a woman traffics an unborn baby for the purpose of terminating its life, they will say, they will treat it as if it's murder, period.

00:59:28.000 Yeah, but the purpose is unknown, that's the point that I'm making.

00:59:32.000 They argue this in court.

00:59:34.000 This is the purpose of an indictment and a criminal trial.

00:59:37.000 So, you can't make the argument that you drove the car at a high speed, crashed into a person, and they died, and say, well, I mean, you could certainly make the argument.

00:59:46.000 They'll be like, we don't know exactly why they did it.

00:59:48.000 Yep, you did.

00:59:49.000 Okay, you did.

00:59:50.000 The woman will come back from Colorado, having gotten an abortion, and they'll say, now we know exactly why you did it. 1.00

00:59:54.000 Oh, if she goes back to the state, yeah, she's probably gonna face an issue. 1.00

00:59:57.000 Right, so she'll have to flee outright. 0.99

00:59:58.000 Yeah.

00:59:58.000 Bro, I'm telling you, the point is this.

01:00:00.000 But arresting her at the border, I don't know about that.

01:00:02.000 You cannot have these two states coexisting this way.

01:00:05.000 Yeah.

01:00:05.000 The left made this argument that states will start setting up like police forces because it's illegal.

01:00:12.000 Not even an original opinion from me.

01:00:15.000 I'm like, I agree with what they're saying. 0.96

01:00:17.000 It feels like a dumb, heavy-handed thing to say. 0.73

01:00:20.000 We'll just put cops there and then it will stop. 0.97

01:00:22.000 No one believes that.

01:00:24.000 How deep do you want to go?

01:00:25.000 No one believes that, Ian.

01:00:27.000 No one believes that we'll just stop because they put cops there.

01:00:30.000 They're saying, we want cops to try and do something.

01:00:32.000 Because the only thing people ever say is, do something, do something.

01:00:36.000 So they'll do something, and that's what you'll get.

01:00:38.000 And it could be worse than doing nothing.

01:00:39.000 Absolutely.

01:00:40.000 But I think most people would argue it's not worse than doing nothing.

01:00:43.000 Because you'll get a lot of people in Oklahoma who are like, we need to go get an abortion, and the cops are going to be at the border and they're going to be like, I can't do this.

01:00:49.000 Turn around.

01:00:50.000 Or there'll be like, people will be like, we suspect she may get an abortion. 1.00

01:00:54.000 We have an anonymous tip.

01:00:55.000 Let's tap her phone lines. 0.99

01:00:57.000 You're right. 0.97

01:00:57.000 That's dirty, dude. 0.97

01:00:59.000 You are right. 0.93

01:01:02.000 Now, I don't think Oklahoma criminalizes the woman, though. 1.00

01:01:06.000 They criminalize the practice, so I think the doctor's the one who gets in trouble.

01:01:11.000 What you need to understand is, I am not talking about... The world is not a machine.

01:01:17.000 Human civilization is not a machine that functions on logic.

01:01:21.000 I love this idea when it comes to business contracts.

01:01:24.000 I hear all the time from people who don't know how to run businesses, and they seem to think, I can't remember what movie I was watching.

01:01:31.000 It was like someone had a contract with a company and then their whole company got seized or something happened and they were like, this is absurd.

01:01:40.000 How could our company be taken over this way?

01:01:42.000 And then they went to the court and the judge was like, I'm sorry, it's right here in the contract.

01:01:45.000 And they're like, no, no.

01:01:47.000 And I'm like, courts don't work that way.

01:01:50.000 You can come to an agreement with someone and a judge can nullify it.

01:01:53.000 Judges are human beings. 0.97

01:01:54.000 They can be like, this is ridiculous.

01:01:56.000 People seem to think that contract law and legality is like, I'm sorry, sir.

01:02:01.000 It says right here, there are judges who literally have imprisoned children for cash.

01:02:06.000 Regardless of what the law says.

01:02:08.000 We know human judges basically can do what they want to do.

01:02:12.000 They can hold you in contempt and lock you up and just end your life, basically.

01:02:15.000 And then you can beg.

01:02:17.000 They can do these things.

01:02:18.000 There are judges.

01:02:20.000 Trump is the perfect example.

01:02:22.000 Let's jump to the Trump story.

01:02:23.000 Let's talk about Donald Trump.

01:02:24.000 This is a perfect segue.

01:02:25.000 Here's a story from Fox News.

01:02:27.000 Trump reacts after leaked recording shows him discussing classified documents.

01:02:31.000 Former president tells Fox News Digital he did nothing wrong in secret document case.

01:02:34.000 I have the audio here.

01:02:36.000 Let's play it. 0.99

01:02:37.000 Sick people. 0.99

01:02:38.000 That was your coup, you know, against you. 0.98

01:02:42.000 Well, it started right at the beginning.

01:02:46.000 They were trying to do that before you even were sworn in.

01:02:49.000 That's right.

01:02:50.000 Trying to overthrow your election.

01:02:51.000 Well, with Milley... Let me see that.

01:02:54.000 I'll show you an example.

01:02:55.000 He said that I wanted to attack Iran.

01:03:02.000 Isn't it amazing?

01:03:02.000 I have a big pile of papers.

01:03:04.000 Look, this was him.

01:03:04.000 This thing just came out.

01:03:08.000 They presented me this.

01:03:09.000 This is off the record, but they presented me this.

01:03:13.000 This was him.

01:03:15.000 This was the Defense Department and him.

01:03:18.000 We looked at some.

01:03:19.000 This was him.

01:03:19.000 This wasn't done by me.

01:03:20.000 This was him.

01:03:22.000 All sorts of stuff.

01:03:23.000 It's pages long.

01:03:24.000 Wait a minute.

01:03:26.000 Let's see here.

01:03:32.000 I just found... Isn't that amazing?

01:03:34.000 This totally wins my case, you know.

01:03:36.000 Except it is, like, highly confidential, secret.

01:03:40.000 This is secret information.

01:03:42.000 Look at this.

01:03:43.000 You attack and... Hillary would print that out all the time, you know. 1.00

01:03:48.000 Private email.

01:03:49.000 No, she'd send it to Anthony Weiner. 0.92

01:03:51.000 For pervert.

01:03:55.000 By the way, isn't that incredible? 0.98

01:03:56.000 Yeah.

01:03:57.000 I was just saying, because we were talking about it.

01:03:59.000 And, you know, he said, he wanted to attack Iran and what... He said it first. 0.86

01:04:04.000 You did.

01:04:06.000 This was done by the military, given to me.

01:04:10.000 I think we can probably, right?

01:04:12.000 I don't know.

01:04:13.000 We'll have to see.

01:04:14.000 Yeah, we'll have to try to figure out a... See, as president, I could have de-classified it.

01:04:19.000 Now I can't, you know, but this is classified.

01:04:21.000 Yeah, now we have a problem.

01:04:22.000 Isn't that interesting?

01:04:23.000 Yeah.

01:04:24.000 It's so cool.

01:04:25.000 Look, here I have a...

01:04:28.000 And you probably almost didn't believe me, but now you believe me.

01:04:31.000 No, I believe you.

01:04:32.000 It's incredible.

01:04:33.000 So there you go, that's basically it.

01:04:34.000 And here's why I brought this up.

01:04:35.000 For one, it is a big story, but my point is this.

01:04:38.000 Hillary Clinton had top secret information on her private servers.

01:04:41.000 She had her phone smashed with hammers, and she used an open source purging software to destroy all of those public records. 1.00

01:04:48.000 Comey said no reasonable prosecutor would bring these charges.

01:04:51.000 Joe Biden had classified documents in multiple locations.

01:04:55.000 Maybe they'll bring charges against him.

01:04:56.000 Doesn't seem likely.

01:04:57.000 But Hillary is the really obvious one. 0.81

01:04:59.000 Before an election, Comey said, no, we're not going to do that. 0.96

01:05:02.000 That's ridiculous. 0.60

01:05:02.000 And she wasn't even the president. 0.60

01:05:04.000 Donald Trump has classified documents and they say, give him 10 years.

01:05:09.000 The view is screaming, lock him up 10 years.

01:05:12.000 This is the point about anything pertaining to legality or law.

01:05:15.000 It doesn't matter what you think is right and what should be done.

01:05:18.000 What matters is people with power wield it.

01:05:19.000 The left certainly understands that.

01:05:21.000 The right has this problem of being like...

01:05:24.000 You know, but is it allowed?

01:05:26.000 And the left is just like, do it anyway.

01:05:29.000 And that's where we're at.

01:05:30.000 The Biden DOJ going after Trump on charges that the Obama DOJ would not bring against Hillary.

01:05:37.000 Can I ask you a few questions about this just as a lawyer?

01:05:39.000 Sure, absolutely.

01:05:40.000 So when Trump says, I could have declassified them or should have declassified them, is that an admission that he didn't declassify them properly and is that going to be held against him?

01:05:49.000 Well, look, I think that one of the things that we're all missing is the context of these papers that you can hear in the background.

01:05:53.000 What is it that he's actually looking at?

01:05:55.000 And what is he actually flipping through, right?

01:05:58.000 I mean, is he flipping through some kind of a description?

01:06:02.000 Is he flipping through some kind of a picture?

01:06:06.000 I mean, we don't know what was actually in front of them.

01:06:09.000 But I think one of the things that matters here is what Tim just pointed out, which is Donald Trump was the President of the United States.

01:06:15.000 Hillary Clinton was only the Secretary of State.

01:06:18.000 You know Joe Biden the records that he's talking about are records. He got as vice president or

01:06:23.000 Previously as a senator right and so classified documents are controlled by the president of the United States

01:06:30.000 documents are only classified secret top-secret confidential because of an executive

01:06:36.000 order from the president of the United States all classification authority derives from the president with

01:06:42.000 one limited exception set by Congress about atomic Atomic energy related documents and in so you have this

01:06:49.000 whole kind of that That's one angle and a lot of people have been talking

01:06:52.000 about that But one of the things that I think is an interesting

01:06:55.000 thought that I hope folks start to think through Is you have all this discussion right now about oh

01:07:01.000 My goodness President Trump violated the Presidential Records Act and those weren't his documents and he couldn't

01:07:08.000 have those documents Those are the people's documents.

01:07:11.000 And I'm sorry.

01:07:12.000 For me, from coming from a first principles standpoint, under the Constitution, The Congress of the United States has no authority to tell the President of the United States which papers are his and which papers aren't.

01:07:27.000 Right?

01:07:28.000 That is ultimately, under the Constitution, the President of the United States has to have that power to decide which documents are his.

01:07:37.000 And so if he has that power, then how can he, and then he takes those documents with him, which is the standard practice of Presidents, for almost 200 years.

01:07:45.000 George Washington took his papers with him after he left office, and it was actually the subject of a court case later on down the line.

01:07:52.000 He deeded them to his nephew.

01:07:55.000 So how is it now that we fast forward and Congress passes this Presidential Records Act in 1978, Jimmy Carter signs into law and says, oh, well, these are all The people's records and the president no longer has, you know, kind of an ultimate say so.

01:08:08.000 The president possesses the documents from the first instance and has that absolute authority to do so.

01:08:15.000 Then how can he be prosecuted under the Espionage Act for unlawful possession of these documents?

01:08:20.000 It's insane.

01:08:21.000 I mean, it just doesn't make sense.

01:08:22.000 But not only that.

01:08:24.000 First, we're gonna find out in a week or so that there's something more to this video where, like, right after this clip, Trump goes, I mean, these aren't actually any of the real documents.

01:08:34.000 These are just, you know, memos.

01:08:37.000 It'll be something like that.

01:08:38.000 And you'll be like, oh, I wonder why that context wasn't provided, because the media does this all the time.

01:08:42.000 But then let's get down to it.

01:08:44.000 First, what does this audio prove, if anything? 1.00

01:08:48.000 Donald Trump is an idiot? 1.00

01:08:50.000 Maybe. 1.00

01:08:51.000 Is that it?

01:08:52.000 Is it criminal?

01:08:53.000 It's not.

01:08:54.000 I'll tell you, in two seconds Trump's legal team is going to be like, he was bragging.

01:08:58.000 He was lying.

01:08:59.000 It's not real.

01:09:01.000 The papers, you hear that audio?

01:09:02.000 Weren't even those real papers.

01:09:04.000 Where was this audio recorded?

01:09:06.000 Oh, it was in this room?

01:09:07.000 The papers were in a different place the whole time.

01:09:09.000 You can't see anything, you can't hear anything.

01:09:11.000 Someone saying something about, look at these papers, they're secret, doesn't prove he actually had secret papers and showed them to anybody.

01:09:17.000 So it's circumstantial at best.

01:09:19.000 It is bad for Trump, don't get me wrong, but they're acting like it's this big bombshell.

01:09:24.000 And my thing is, you know what I think?

01:09:26.000 I think Trump was just, Speaking off the cuff and being a braggart.

01:09:31.000 And then when it actually came down to the legal matter, he said, look, I'm the president.

01:09:34.000 They're declassified because I say so.

01:09:36.000 And that's his argument now.

01:09:37.000 I don't think this tape does anything.

01:09:39.000 All that's going to happen is if you're on the left, you're going to think it's a bombshell. 1.00

01:09:41.000 If you're on the right, you're going to say it's stupid. 1.00

01:09:43.000 And I'll tell you this. 1.00

01:09:45.000 If the left says Trump must get 10 years for this.

01:09:49.000 Actually, they do.

01:09:49.000 They do.

01:09:49.000 Let me pull up the little article here we got from Mediaite.

01:09:53.000 Lock him up already.

01:09:54.000 The view gets wild as Ho suggests Trump selling docs predict he gets 10 years in prison.

01:09:57.000 Okay.

01:09:58.000 All right, I'm down.

01:10:01.000 Hillary's next in line. 1.00

01:10:02.000 Let's get it.

01:10:03.000 And then, of course, we can get Obama on that killing that 16-year-old American citizen. 0.99

01:10:05.000 Bring them all. 0.99

01:10:06.000 Bring them all. 0.61

01:10:07.000 Let's lock them all up. 0.58

01:10:08.000 Joe Biden next.

01:10:09.000 He was selling documents? 0.98

01:10:11.000 I mean, these people are insane.

01:10:13.000 But the point is, the reason why this tape doesn't matter is because we know Hillary Clinton had top secret information.

01:10:20.000 We know that she had no authority to have it.

01:10:22.000 We know that she had phones with the records on them destroyed with hammers.

01:10:26.000 We know that she had the server purged with bleach bit.

01:10:30.000 And Comey said no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges on this.

01:10:34.000 So then, am I supposed to think it's reasonable for Trump to be charged?

01:10:39.000 No, of course not.

01:10:40.000 Well, I'm curious, again, as a lawyer, what do you think this does in a court of law?

01:10:45.000 Like, this kind of evidence?

01:10:47.000 I mean, it really depends on what gets admitted.

01:10:49.000 There's all kinds of tests for what gets admitted and what gets heard and what the jury can see, assuming it goes to a jury.

01:10:57.000 Tim's exactly right.

01:10:59.000 His lawyers go in and they start punching holes in this.

01:11:01.000 Well, how do you know?

01:11:02.000 What documents was he talking about?

01:11:03.000 Do we have witnesses who can recall and take the stand and they'll testify?

01:11:08.000 Oh yeah, it was this precise document that was marked top secret, no foreign, your eyes only document, and he was showing us all of these precise battle plans.

01:11:18.000 Now, I mean I highly doubt that, and Tim's exactly right, every time we see one of these things play out, which is I think what most Americans recognize now, is that every time we see one of these allegations, whether it's three days or three years down the line, there's more to the story.

01:11:36.000 And that the left just keeps coming at him and coming at him and coming at him with everything that they have.

01:11:42.000 And it's always, this is the last straw, this is the death knell for Donald Trump.

01:11:46.000 The walls are closing in!

01:11:47.000 The walls are closing in!

01:11:49.000 And every time there's more to it.

01:11:51.000 I think that the left is destroying its own credibility, the more that they do this, because average Americans sitting at home, Kansas, Georgia, Nevada, wherever, they see this and they say, why do they keep going after this guy?

01:12:05.000 This doesn't make sense.

01:12:06.000 They just keep coming after him.

01:12:09.000 It's counterintuitive.

01:12:10.000 It doesn't make any sense to them.

01:12:11.000 I do want to give a special shout out to Donald Trump for trusting the corporate press all the time.

01:12:16.000 He just loves allowing these people to come in all the time and just let him record him and all this stuff.

01:12:22.000 He keeps giving him interviews.

01:12:23.000 It's wonderful, isn't it?

01:12:25.000 I don't get it.

01:12:26.000 That's the part of it that I don't get.

01:12:27.000 To go back to the initial segue to this.

01:12:32.000 This is my point.

01:12:33.000 When we were talking about the borders and Oklahoma banning abortion and Colorado allowing it, it doesn't matter what you think the law is.

01:12:39.000 We talked about this the other day, cohabitation in West Virginia is illegal.

01:12:43.000 Are they gonna bring charges against you?

01:12:45.000 Only if they want to search your residence.

01:12:48.000 Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.

01:12:50.000 So, let's say you're in West Virginia, and you're an activist, and the state's like, this person's causing us problems, can we find a crime that'll give us a justification for searching their residence?

01:12:59.000 They're cohabitating, that's illegal, boom, we got him.

01:13:02.000 I still want to look up that law.

01:13:03.000 I haven't been able to find it. So like cohabitation is in living with someone of the opposite sex you're not married 0.97

01:13:08.000 with or in a relationship with?

01:13:09.000 Beast! 0.71

01:13:11.000 I couldn't find the law.

01:13:14.000 Yeah, I agree. It's not about doing what's right, but the reason I was

01:13:19.000 concerned with the whole setting up border checkpoints thing is because I'm looking ahead at what problems that

01:13:24.000 could arise from a social movement to install border patrol, whether or not it's legal, whether

01:13:29.000 or not it's righteous, that it could end up causing more unnecessary

01:13:34.000 spying on the the people themselves that you know, unexpectedly, they didn't realize what they had

01:13:39.000 unleashed on themselves by creating some sort of patrol office around them.

01:13:43.000 you.

01:13:44.000 You trying to be pulling up that law?

01:13:46.000 Yeah, it's, uh, this is weird.

01:13:49.000 So, yeah, how long is this?

01:13:51.000 Lewd and lascivious cohabitation when person's presumed to be unmarried is the law.

01:13:55.000 6184.

01:13:57.000 But it does say whether married or not afterwards.

01:14:00.000 Interesting.

01:14:01.000 Oh, so like you're doing lewd and lascivious things even within the context of marriage. 0.92

01:14:04.000 They're basically saying you're being a freak. 0.91

01:14:07.000 Right.

01:14:07.000 Get out of my bedroom.

01:14:08.000 Yeah.

01:14:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:11.000 It's, it's, yeah. 0.84

01:14:13.000 Okay, so to be specific, it's not about just cohabitation, it's about fornication.

01:14:18.000 It says, in prosecutions for adultery and fornication, lewd and lasciviously cohabiting together, the persons named in the indictment shall be presumed to be unmarried persons, unless proof to the contrary.

01:14:31.000 I'm assuming that the laws... Oh, fornication means unmarried sexual intercourse. 1.00

01:14:36.000 That's the first time I've ever put that together.

01:14:37.000 I think with this thing, I could be wrong, but I was talking to someone about it recently and they were like, yeah, what are they called?

01:14:42.000 They're called blue laws or whatever?

01:14:44.000 They're archaic laws nobody enforces anymore.

01:14:45.000 No, they don't enforce them anymore.

01:14:46.000 But this is like if you're making a noise violation with your lady and you're not married, they might be like, yo...

01:14:51.000 Stop.

01:14:52.000 And if you don't stop and you don't stop and you don't stop, they're like, hey.

01:14:55.000 Okay, I get it now.

01:14:55.000 If any person's not married to each other, lewdly and lascivously associate or cohabitate together, they shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction be fined not less than $50.

01:15:03.000 Yeah, like, to clarify, if you are not married and you be hooking up, it's illegal.

01:15:08.000 And it's like, I think that's particularly if you're hooking up in public.

01:15:11.000 No, it's in your house.

01:15:14.000 People can sense that you're doing it inside.

01:15:15.000 They walk by, they hear the noise, they see it in a window.

01:15:18.000 Because lewdness, they wouldn't know unless they were there.

01:15:20.000 It actually clarifies, or, whether married or not, be guilty of open gross lewdness.

01:15:26.000 That's a separate clause.

01:15:28.000 So, what I read was specifically saying, if you are not married, and you are lewdly associating and cohabitating, Then you will be guilty of a misdemeanor.

01:15:37.000 If you are married or not, be guilty of open or gross lewdness and lasciviousness.

01:15:44.000 You will be guilty of a misdemeanor.

01:15:46.000 So, anyway, that's my point.

01:15:48.000 Yeah, they don't prosecute that stuff anymore.

01:15:49.000 But I guess, I'm actually, if they tried to today, though, if they were going after somebody they didn't like, and then this was the justification, it would almost certainly be struck down.

01:15:58.000 No court would convict somebody.

01:15:59.000 Dude, that's, there's an issue there.

01:16:02.000 Lewd is such a vague term, also.

01:16:03.000 But all laws use terms you struggle to define, and then a judge interprets it.

01:16:07.000 That's crazy.

01:16:08.000 Wicked, it means wicked.

01:16:09.000 So let me explain, Ian. 0.57

01:16:11.000 A woman is, in Oklahoma, abortion is totally banned.

01:16:14.000 It's a total ban, right?

01:16:17.000 Let me, yeah, so, yes, yes.

01:16:20.000 So the places, yes, yeah, exactly.

01:16:22.000 Oklahoma does have a total ban.

01:16:24.000 Now what we'll need is a judge's interpretation of what then would you call taking a pregnant woman, carrying a child that the state deems to be a child across state lines without permission of the other parent.

01:16:37.000 Would that be kidnapping?

01:16:40.000 What I'm saying is, if this continues in this way, you will get to the point where the interpretation of the state in Oklahoma is that a child carried to another state to be put to death is irrelevant whether it's in the womb or out of the womb.

01:16:58.000 If a woman carried a physical child across state lines to bring it to a place to have it killed, they would view it identically to a woman with the baby in the womb doing the same thing.

01:17:07.000 Yeah, I'm actually curious about the law.

01:17:09.000 I want to look into it, but I'm not sure if the laws that are banning it are also defining it as homicide.

01:17:13.000 I wonder if some states ban it without characterizing it as homicide.

01:17:16.000 That's why I'm saying a judge will have to interpret it.

01:17:18.000 Because this is inevitable.

01:17:21.000 Not that a judge will say it's homicide, but that the interpretation will have to be handed down by a judge.

01:17:27.000 You will get a circumstance in Oklahoma, and it's probably already happened, where a woman gets pregnant, goes to Colorado, gets an abortion.

01:17:34.000 There will be a lawsuit or some challenge, if slash when she returns, and you will have the father or some family member being like, that was illegal, and then filing some kind of claim and demanding criminal charges for it.

01:17:48.000 It's an illegal act, terminate the pregnancy, she went and did it in another state, what will the judges say about that?

01:17:54.000 It'll have to be interpreted by somebody.

01:17:56.000 Yeah?

01:17:57.000 I think Oklahoma, based on this trajectory, will lean towards, it is child trafficking and murder.

01:18:03.000 That's wild.

01:18:04.000 Child trafficking is interesting because if a woman's eight months pregnant and she's like, hey, I'm going to see my mom in another state. 0.95

01:18:10.000 And the dad's like, no, you're not.

01:18:12.000 Not this week.

01:18:12.000 She's like, yeah, I am.

01:18:14.000 I have the tickets already.

01:18:14.000 And he's like, no, you're not going anywhere.

01:18:16.000 And she's like, I'm leaving.

01:18:17.000 And she leaves.

01:18:17.000 And it's like, she's trafficking a child.

01:18:19.000 The dad goes to the court.

01:18:20.000 Absolutely.

01:18:21.000 Yep.

01:18:22.000 No, that woman has every right to go to her mom's house across state lines, in my opinion, with an eight-month-old in womb. 1.00

01:18:27.000 That's my personal opinion.

01:18:28.000 And then two things happen.

01:18:30.000 One, yes, there will be circumstances where women will be unjustly halted from living their lives. 1.00

01:18:35.000 The second, there will be women who will lie about traveling to visit their parents in order to terminate the life of the child. 1.00

01:18:42.000 Yeah, I mean, also, if you're pregnant, if you just have a child in general, I think it would be very strange for you to go somewhere without your spouse wanting you to go there.

01:18:52.000 I'm sure you have, like, some abusive relationships where the husband is a maniac and the woman has a reason to leave, but that's totally different.

01:19:02.000 I think we're headed towards, uh, as the states fracture.

01:19:05.000 Wait, don't say, is this the word I have to say?

01:19:07.000 Yeah.

01:19:07.000 The phrase I have to say?

01:19:08.000 No, I think so.

01:19:09.000 I wasn't gonna say anything.

01:19:10.000 You're jumping the gun.

01:19:11.000 Okay, okay.

01:19:12.000 I was gonna say something dark because it starts with...

01:19:15.000 The political polarization of people into certain states, then the championing of federalization, like states being sovereign, but then you have to contend with the fact that if Colorado and Oklahoma are distinct entities with extremely different laws, you will need border checkpoints.

01:19:35.000 This is the fracturing of the United States.

01:19:38.000 The point where Oklahoma will have to have a border checkpoint with Colorado.

01:19:43.000 Yeah, it's also very interesting because I wonder in 20 years where all of these states are going to be.

01:19:49.000 We've seen states change from red to blue over time.

01:19:54.000 It's possible.

01:19:55.000 Look, the entire country in many ways, especially on social issues, has moved significantly further to the left.

01:20:01.000 In terms of legislation, I would say in some states abortion and, in general, gun control are kind of the two issues where we've moved to the right as a country.

01:20:11.000 But for the most part, the trajectory has always been to the left.

01:20:15.000 I'm curious to see if there's going to be a backlash and some of these places that are blue might start to turn red.

01:20:22.000 That's also, again, not me saying that's going to happen.

01:20:25.000 I think that could be wishful thinking, but... On the point of immigration, to add to what you're saying, Ian, they already do have random stops.

01:20:36.000 In states.

01:20:37.000 When I first went to California, I entered through San Diego from the... Tijuana?

01:20:43.000 No, no, no.

01:20:44.000 From Arizona into California to San Diego.

01:20:47.000 And I was on a bus from San Diego to LA, and we got randomly stopped by immigration.

01:20:52.000 And they boarded the bus, and they demanded everyone pull out their IDs, and I pull out my ID.

01:20:59.000 And they go, and they look, and they hand the things back.

01:21:01.000 And they came up to me, and the guy looks at my ID, and he goes, what's your favorite baseball team?

01:21:05.000 And I was like, I don't like baseball.

01:21:07.000 Is there a favorite baseball team?

01:21:08.000 And I was like, well, I'm from Chicago.

01:21:09.000 I could say the Sox, I guess, but I don't really watch baseball.

01:21:11.000 And he goes, you're fine.

01:21:12.000 Hands me the ID back.

01:21:13.000 The reason he asked that is he wanted a fast question that you'd have to be able to answer really, really quickly, because if you were an illegal immigrant, you wouldn't have a canned response to it.

01:21:21.000 So they already do stuff like this.

01:21:24.000 If Arizona is worried about the southern border crisis, I saw a video from Jorge Ventura on the border and there was like immigrants are coming up but they couldn't get across.

01:21:41.000 They're stuck at some wall or something.

01:21:43.000 They've been there for three days just camping on the border waiting to get across.

01:21:46.000 Dude, what is the solution to this border?

01:21:50.000 I don't even want to say it online, man.

01:21:53.000 I just have such horrible, horrible visions of what could happen if we don't stem the tide.

01:21:58.000 We have to.

01:21:58.000 I mean, and really, this is not overstating things, but in the Trump administration, towards

01:22:04.000 the end of the Trump administration, they had solved the border crisis, right?

01:22:10.000 The number of illegal entries, successful illegal entries, which is the goal of every

01:22:14.000 illegal alien, is just to get into the United States.

01:22:17.000 It doesn't, I mean, they don't care if they get captured or if they sneak across or whatever.

01:22:22.000 Their goal is to get released.

01:22:24.000 Their goal is to get released in the interior so they can work, they can provide for their

01:22:27.000 family, whatever, send money back home.

01:22:30.000 That's their end goal.

01:22:33.000 And so under the Trump administration, what ended up happening was these policies like

01:22:36.000 remain in Mexico, where you had to say, hey, look, we caught you, but now you're going

01:22:40.000 And if you have a court claim you want to make, you're going to make it for Mexico.

01:22:44.000 We're going to let you in for your court date.

01:22:46.000 But other than that, you wait there.

01:22:47.000 That dried everything up because people realize you don't actually get your end goal.

01:22:52.000 What this administration is doing is, they were letting in all kinds of folks.

01:22:56.000 All kinds of folks were coming in because they were just catching and releasing everybody.

01:23:00.000 But now what they've done is they've done a paradigm shift where they're directing people to the ports of entry

01:23:05.000 and they're trying to hide the ball from the American people.

01:23:08.000 So they're saying, oh, the numbers between our ports, the number of people crossing illegally,

01:23:12.000 they're going down.

01:23:13.000 They're still astronomically high.

01:23:15.000 Those numbers are going down.

01:23:16.000 But instead what they're doing is they're sending them to the ports of entry and they're saying,

01:23:20.000 Go to the port of entry and make your case there.

01:23:23.000 And, uh, what the government is doing is by the tens of thousands every month, actually letting people come to the port of entry, make an appointment, tell them who they are, and they just let them into the United States.

01:23:33.000 Well, you can go to your court date someday, five years in the future.

01:23:36.000 It's insane.

01:23:37.000 It has to stop.

01:23:38.000 No country can sustain this type of influx. 1.00

01:23:41.000 Can you think keeping them in Mexico is the best solution, or just keeping them on the other side of the border? 1.00

01:23:46.000 It happens to be Mexico.

01:23:48.000 You have to either do that, you have to detain people long enough for them to have some kind of a court hearing to adjudicate if they have some kind of a claim, or you have to avail them of other alternatives, like, say, third country agreements that we'd signed with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras, where it'd say, hey, look, You're seeking asylum in the United States, and you're from Guatemala?

01:24:07.000 Well, guess what?

01:24:08.000 You should have sought it first in El Salvador.

01:24:10.000 Or you should have sought it first in Mexico.

01:24:12.000 Whatever the case may be.

01:24:13.000 I have an idea.

01:24:14.000 What if we got a big island, and that was like a waypoint.

01:24:19.000 If people entered, they get brought there for temporary holding.

01:24:23.000 So here's the issue.

01:24:25.000 It's easy to be like, if they illegally enter the country, turn them around. 0.98

01:24:27.000 You can't.

01:24:28.000 Because what if they're not Mexican? 0.87

01:24:29.000 They come through the southern border and they're Honduran.

01:24:32.000 We can't then go, hey Mexico, we're putting this person into your country. 1.00

01:24:34.000 They might say like, no, you can't do that.

01:24:35.000 We don't know where that person came from.

01:24:37.000 And sometimes for a lot of these people, we don't even know if they came through Mexico.

01:24:40.000 They may have come through other ways.

01:24:41.000 They may have flown here, overstayed their visas.

01:24:43.000 So what if we had an island where it's like, if you enter here illegally, we will detain you, transport you to this island where you will be detained temporarily till we can figure out What country you originate from, figure out proper means of deportation, or if it's a genuine case of asylum.

01:25:03.000 Now, I think that makes sense because you can't just push them back.

01:25:07.000 And the challenge will be, of course, finding the appropriate location.

01:25:10.000 But I think there is an island up in the northeast somewhere that we could potentially use that's very nice.

01:25:16.000 Yeah.

01:25:17.000 And you know, it's a good point.

01:25:19.000 I think it'd be very nice.

01:25:20.000 I actually really like that idea.

01:25:22.000 They have plenty of resources to care for these people, too.

01:25:24.000 In fact, diversity is our strength.

01:25:26.000 Maybe a vineyard of some sort.

01:25:28.000 Yeah, I think it would be very nice.

01:25:30.000 I actually really like that idea.

01:25:32.000 They have plenty of resources to care for these people too.

01:25:34.000 In fact, diversity is our strength.

01:25:36.000 I actually think that Martha's Vineyard can't afford not to have all of my good scent there.

01:25:43.000 It'd make them very strong.

01:25:45.000 It'd be good for their economy.

01:25:47.000 All the things that they say are true for the United States, you know, should be true for Martha's Vineyard.

01:25:53.000 Let's send them there. 0.98

01:25:54.000 In fact, I think it would be even a little bit greedy of Martha's Vineyard to just accept all of the migrants. 1.00

01:25:59.000 But you know what?

01:26:01.000 I'm willing to be nice and do them the favor.

01:26:05.000 They deserve it.

01:26:06.000 They're good people up there.

01:26:07.000 They're good people, yeah.

01:26:08.000 Yeah, let's give them that.

01:26:09.000 I want to point out, I actually pulled up the actual West Virginia Code 52102, lewd or lascivious cohabitation.

01:26:15.000 No persons not married to each other shall lewdly and lasciviously associate and cohabitate together, or whether married or not, be guilty of open or gross lewdness or lasciviousness.

01:26:24.000 Quite literally, you cannot live with another person and engage in adult activities with them unless you're married.

01:26:30.000 I wonder if people have OnlyFans accounts or do porn from West Virginia if they could get arrested under that law.

01:26:36.000 That's open!

01:26:37.000 That's outright!

01:26:40.000 So we were looking at these laws because they were doing drag shows with kids, and I'm like, pretty sure it's already illegal.

01:26:47.000 Jefferson County explicitly banned it.

01:26:49.000 Saying like, this is explicitly defined as, you know, against the law.

01:26:53.000 Berkeley County, which is a little further west, it's not explicit, but West Virginia state law clearly covers having a drag performance and allowing kids on stage. 0.89

01:27:01.000 The question is, will the AG actually do anything about it?

01:27:08.000 Yeah, I guess we'll have to see.

01:27:11.000 We'll have to see if law and order means anything.

01:27:13.000 I'd like to take that lewd law off the books in West Virginia. 1.00

01:27:17.000 That'd be like a- Laws should sunset.

01:27:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:27:20.000 That one, yeah.

01:27:21.000 It's too vague.

01:27:22.000 You're gonna have an uphill battle.

01:27:23.000 The people of West Virginia will never let you remove that law.

01:27:25.000 If you have an indecent relationship with your live-in girlfriend, they're gonna give you a- That's crazy that they could charge you with a misdemeanor.

01:27:32.000 But I think it's only like a $50 fine, right?

01:27:35.000 Is that what it said?

01:27:36.000 Something like that, like up to six months in jail.

01:27:38.000 Up to six months, oh my goodness.

01:27:40.000 Fifty dollars or six months in jail.

01:27:42.000 I think that's what it said.

01:27:43.000 That was like pre-inflation numbers that were updated in the law.

01:27:46.000 Let me, uh, what does it say?

01:27:49.000 Six, uh, not less than six.

01:27:53.000 See, that's the thing.

01:27:54.000 $50 was a lot of money back then, dude.

01:27:55.000 I know, I know.

01:27:57.000 $60 was worth in proportion to six months.

01:28:00.000 No, no, not less than $50.

01:28:02.000 Seriously.

01:28:02.000 That's how you know it's old.

01:28:03.000 Shall be fined not less than $50 and may, in the discretion of the court, be imprisoned not exceeding six months.

01:28:08.000 And upon repetition of the offense, they shall, upon conviction, be confined not less than six months or more than 12.

01:28:16.000 Wow.

01:28:17.000 I mean, it outright says fornication, too.

01:28:20.000 I would love to see the stats from historical stats to see just how many actual of those prosecutions were brought against cohabitating couples versus how many times it was used to prosecute things like prostitution houses or other things that, you know, that was their way of getting at it back in the day.

01:28:37.000 I mean, that would be my supposition, but I don't know.

01:28:41.000 You know what's funny?

01:28:42.000 Is if you go back like a hundred years, when this law's on the books, you've got some conservatives sitting around a pub table being like, these liberals, they're advocating for fornication in the privacy of their own homes!

01:28:55.000 That's illegal!

01:28:56.000 And it actually was, and people did it, and now it's not illegal anymore.

01:28:59.000 It's still illegal, but nobody enforces it, and a court would probably not uphold it if they tried to arrest someone for it.

01:29:03.000 Yeah, the court would not uphold that today.

01:29:05.000 Right, but it's on the books.

01:29:07.000 You tell me though, if your client called you saying they were getting charged with this, would you panic?

01:29:11.000 Would you be like, I don't know if I can get you out of this one?

01:29:13.000 Nope.

01:29:14.000 You think you can do it?

01:29:15.000 Wow.

01:29:16.000 Is that not social erosion though?

01:29:17.000 Well, I mean, certainly it is.

01:29:20.000 Social erosion, social cohesion is always found in societies where you share a set of values.

01:29:27.000 And whatever those values are, those are the values that are shared by the community, right?

01:29:30.000 And we can judge them by today's standards, but we shouldn't.

01:29:35.000 There was at least a shared, unified idea that there was some kind of fundamental truths and some baseline morals that everybody agreed to and that carried forth.

01:29:46.000 enables people to have trust in relationships and with each other and build communities and

01:29:51.000 When you erode those things and when you do things like when we have these drag shows with with kids coming in

01:29:57.000 Coming to them and parents bringing their kids to these things that erodes all of that

01:30:02.000 Rapidly and the we can see we can see the immediate effects But I think the downstream effects the ripple effects are

01:30:08.000 the things that we haven't yet seen that are the terror You made this point, you said, I don't think we should judge the people of that time by our moral norms.

01:30:16.000 result of this that we're not even experiencing yet in today's reality.

01:30:20.000 Absolutely agreed. You made this point, you said, I don't think we should judge

01:30:24.000 the people of that time by our moral norms. Quite frankly, I think it would be

01:30:28.000 much more painful to be judged in our time by their moral norms.

01:30:32.000 Like social cohesion or like shared morality, should we have that on a global scale?

01:30:38.000 I don't know that you can have it on a global scale.

01:30:40.000 Yeah, I don't think so.

01:30:41.000 Like where does it segment righteously?

01:30:43.000 It used to be every state, then it was like now we have the United States so it has a moral, but like does it ever, did it ever really have a true, a real shared moral value in the United States or was it always like pockets of disparate morality?

01:30:54.000 I think so.

01:30:54.000 I mean I think it was, you know, the Judeo-Christian kind of Protestant ethos that formed kind of the core of the common values in the United States, they carried

01:31:05.000 forth things for a couple hundred years.

01:31:07.000 Now, of course, as the more of those died down and religion was, people will worship something.

01:31:13.000 Yep. And it's a matter of what are they worshiping, right?

01:31:16.000 And so it used to be they would worship, they would go to church, they would have a different religion, maybe they would be Baptist, maybe they would be Methodist, whatever.

01:31:22.000 But religion, in that traditional sense, for many people, especially on the left side of the spectrum, has been replaced with worship of things like transgender ideology.

01:31:30.000 Money.

01:31:31.000 Money.

01:31:31.000 The self, ultimately.

01:31:34.000 And it's, what are you worshipping?

01:31:36.000 What are you following?

01:31:37.000 You're following something.

01:31:39.000 You just might not know what it is.

01:31:40.000 So if you're not following, if you're not worshipping your God, you're worshipping something else.

01:31:47.000 And a lot of times it comes down to money, and for a lot of people, and unfortunately a lot of kids these days, as we see the statistics bear out, with the number who are self-identifying Is LGBTQIA+++, or whatever the acronym is these days, well I just saw a thing today.

01:32:01.000 It said 20% of Gen Z kids identify as being a member of that group.

01:32:08.000 That's not coming from a place of a shared morality, shared set of values where things are acceptable and things are not acceptable.

01:32:17.000 That's coming from a sense of worshipping self, worshipping the latest thing, the ever-shifting norms of the left.

01:32:24.000 And they're not tethered to anything.

01:32:26.000 They're always going to be moving to the left.

01:32:28.000 There's no core anchor that holds them together, kind of like conservatives.

01:32:32.000 There's at least some common values that we hold and that we will always—it'll be our mooring that we won't stray far from.

01:32:39.000 Theirs is always shifting, always moving.

01:32:41.000 Yeah, no, I think that's right, and what I would say is when you look at a very broad social scale, you know, people did believe different things in different areas, but anywhere where things have functioned with a very large group, the people at least shared the natural law, the Ten Commandments, but then they had their own kind of regional customs, I think there are laws that are universally applicable that all humans should follow, but then there are certain kind of regional laws, you know, built atop those universal laws in different regional stories and in myths and pastimes.

01:33:19.000 That can't scale out to groups that are too large.

01:33:23.000 There are certain things that historically, traditionally, and culturally make more sense for Tennessee than California or vice versa.

01:33:31.000 So, you can't have a universal social cohesion in the sense that everyone's on board with all of the same Stories and customs, but I think you can you can ideally have a moral code Which is adhered to by everyone in the world I just think it's unlikely like I think it's very unlikely that everyone's gonna follow the Ten Commandments We want them to every culture should expect that but even that it probably won't happen So that's why when it comes to smaller things that are more regional.

01:34:01.000 I mean, I don't think there's any hope of exporting that stuff We did that one episode where we went through the Ten Commandments, and we were talking about, from a secular perspective, whether they would apply to making a better life.

01:34:10.000 And I think, like, the only one that doesn't apply to a secular life is keeping the Lord's name and not using the Lord's name in vain.

01:34:17.000 But, like, not killing, not stealing, not adultery, honoring your parents.

01:34:21.000 Whether you're religious or not, following those rules, you'll have a better life.

01:34:24.000 Yeah.

01:34:24.000 Well, and the thing about the Ten Commandments is they're not just specific rules, they're also categories.

01:34:30.000 So taking the Lord's name in vain, in the most real sense, condemns taking the Lord's name in vain, but there's other things we extrapolate from that, just like using language properly or improperly, using foul language is like a lesser violation of that commandment, but still a violation, so I think even that would apply.

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01:35:09.000 Alright, I'm not your buddy guy says, not to be too hyperbolic, but is this America's last election?

01:35:14.000 I mean, can you imagine sharing a nation with two vastly different ideologies?

01:35:18.000 It's as if only a Julius Caesar character can save the West.

01:35:21.000 I don't know about last election, but I do believe we are entering a very tumultuous period with this election.

01:35:27.000 Think about it in a couple of different ways.

01:35:29.000 Will Trump supporters vote DeSantis?

01:35:31.000 I would say two to one, no.

01:35:34.000 Will DeSantis supporters vote for Trump?

01:35:35.000 Two to one, no.

01:35:36.000 You know why I think this?

01:35:38.000 They've said it.

01:35:39.000 DeSantis supporters have outright said on Twitter, if it's Trump, we're not voting.

01:35:44.000 Well, okay.

01:35:44.000 What about Joe Biden?

01:35:46.000 RFK Jr.

01:35:47.000 It is so divisive that it is just going to be chaos.

01:35:52.000 Will Democrats accept a Trump victory?

01:35:54.000 No.

01:35:55.000 Will Trump supporters accept a Democrat victory?

01:35:57.000 No.

01:35:57.000 Where we go after this?

01:35:59.000 I don't know.

01:36:01.000 It seems like, I don't disagree, a Julius Caesar character, like we're entering, it feels like we're at that crossing the Rubicon moment, from the Republic to the Empire officially.

01:36:09.000 We're always vulnerable to it, but it strikes me more like we're in another sexual revolution that's less violent than the one that happened in the 60s, but there's more media coverage, so the little bits of violence that do happen get blown out of proportion.

01:36:22.000 Sexual revolution? 0.99

01:36:22.000 I would say it's more violent than violence. 0.99

01:36:24.000 It feels like another sexual revolution with all this trans ideology being pushed in schools and things like that. 0.96

01:36:30.000 Oh, sorry.

01:36:30.000 Oh, go for it.

01:36:31.000 No, no, I mean, I agree.

01:36:31.000 I agree, except I would say I don't think it's another sexual revolution so much as it is the inevitable fallout from the first, and I actually think it's more violent.

01:36:40.000 The violence is just being done to children.

01:36:41.000 I agree with Jameis.

01:36:42.000 But how do you define violence?

01:36:45.000 But it is explicitly violent.

01:36:46.000 I mean, you've got people going around smashing things, destroying things.

01:36:49.000 It's violent out on the streets.

01:36:51.000 In the 60s, it was pretty bad.

01:36:52.000 I didn't realize it.

01:36:53.000 And every once in a while I'll hear about like how much there was like terrorism, the weather underground, like bombs.

01:36:57.000 Like it was crazy violent back then with a lot of death.

01:37:01.000 I think the weather underground only killed what, like a couple people?

01:37:05.000 They were more about structural damage.

01:37:07.000 And it was shock and awe late in the night to scare people and terrify.

01:37:10.000 It was like overt terrorism.

01:37:11.000 But for the amount of fear that people have been whipped into in the last five years, it is not that violent.

01:37:16.000 The system does not seem that violent.

01:37:19.000 I'll watch a violent video, and then I'll watch it three or four times.

01:37:22.000 Did I just watch four bouts of violence, even though it was the same thing four times?

01:37:26.000 Because I feel like it happened four times now, all of a sudden.

01:37:29.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:37:32.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:37:33.000 says, Tim, my guy, some good news.

01:37:34.000 Your call to create culture is being heard.

01:37:36.000 I got a sneak peek at Salty Draw's comic book, Silence Do Good.

01:37:40.000 It slaps.

01:37:41.000 I really think you and others will dig it.

01:37:43.000 Right on, very glad to hear it.

01:37:45.000 We need someone to run the grant program, however we're doing it, I have no idea.

01:37:51.000 I say these things like, here's the thing I want to do, and then it doesn't happen, because someone has to run the program, but we want to do a thing where once a month we give 10 grand to someone for their cultural endeavor.

01:38:00.000 And a lot of people are like, I want to do a podcast, and it's like, eh, there's eight million podcasts.

01:38:05.000 If you're going to paint something, or do a series of paintings or something, or a comic, or music, or I don't know.

01:38:11.000 One thing we definitely want to do is more bands for Trash House Records.

01:38:15.000 So we have another song in the works, but we are working on signing a very large musical enterprise.

01:38:21.000 And then we're looking at a few others too, so we're really excited for that.

01:38:25.000 Alright, what do we got?

01:38:27.000 Dino Carosi says, Mr. Timothy, is your coffee ever going to be available for order up here in Kami, Canada? 0.78

01:38:33.000 I need a damn fine cup of Roberto Jr. 0.88

01:38:36.000 Uh, I don't know. 0.98

01:38:37.000 I guess we'll have to figure it out.

01:38:38.000 International shipping, we gotta figure that one out.

01:38:40.000 But the answer is, it will eventually.

01:38:42.000 We're hoping that in ten years, it's a big brand.

01:38:44.000 It exists everywhere.

01:38:45.000 For that matter, I want to give Mr. Beast a shoutout.

01:38:47.000 That dude's amazing.

01:38:48.000 Oh, I love him.

01:38:48.000 He's got candy bars.

01:38:49.000 He's got cheeseburgers.

01:38:51.000 Feastables.

01:38:52.000 Feastables is his candy company.

01:38:54.000 So check this out.

01:38:55.000 Mr. Beast is doing everything, and I think that's fantastic.

01:38:59.000 His candy bars have five ingredients.

01:39:03.000 I was at 7-Eleven, and I see these things, and I look at it, and it's like...

01:39:06.000 Cream, it's like milk, cocoa, sugar, and there's like no garbage in it.

01:39:10.000 Thought it was great.

01:39:11.000 They melt really easily, though.

01:39:13.000 But that's very inspirational to me.

01:39:15.000 How old is Mr. Beast?

01:39:16.000 Like 26?

01:39:16.000 I got like a decade on this guy.

01:39:19.000 But he's hitting the nail on the head with the hammer.

01:39:21.000 He's got his show, and so what does he do?

01:39:22.000 He's expanding all of his business in a bunch of different areas, and I think he's doing good things.

01:39:27.000 Cheeseburgers are fantastic.

01:39:28.000 Not the healthiest thing in the world.

01:39:29.000 But the fact that he's making candy bars that actually get rid of a lot of the gunk and the garbage, I think is a positive step forward.

01:39:34.000 So I got mad respect for him.

01:39:35.000 He's actually 25.

01:39:36.000 Twenty-five?

01:39:36.000 I got twelve years in that game.

01:39:37.000 He got invited onto the Titan Submersible, I believe.

01:39:40.000 Yeah.

01:39:40.000 I'm glad he didn't go.

01:39:40.000 Turned it down, yeah.

01:39:42.000 Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, if... Candy bars are not good.

01:39:47.000 But if we can replace the garbage plastic candy bars with basic ingredients candy bars, because of people like Mr. Beast, we're moving in a positive direction.

01:39:54.000 A little bit of them is okay, but the addictive quality of sugar is what's really the challenge.

01:39:59.000 Once you eat one piece, you've got to kind of set it down and not let it overcome.

01:40:03.000 It's true, dude.

01:40:04.000 It's true.

01:40:05.000 Dude, we have—wineberry season has begun, and it's like nature's Sour Patch Kids.

01:40:10.000 When you get them when they're perfectly ripe and big and red and juicy, it's more like a Swedish fish.

01:40:15.000 They don't actually taste like it, but if you get them just before they're red, there's a little sour tart to it, and it is so good.

01:40:20.000 And there's like 50,000 of them right behind this window right here.

01:40:24.000 It's amazing.

01:40:25.000 Tim picked some and he's like, hey, here, why don't you try one of these?

01:40:28.000 And then I like started eating it.

01:40:29.000 I was like, wait, have you had one of these?

01:40:30.000 You're like, no.

01:40:31.000 I was like, wait, is it going to kill me?

01:40:33.000 That was the cherry, I think.

01:40:34.000 Oh, okay.

01:40:36.000 Dude, we made wineberry ice cream.

01:40:38.000 We took an ice cream machine, and then we took the wineberries and we just threw them in, and the most amazing thing happens.

01:40:43.000 It breaks the wineberries up, but doesn't pop the, what are they called, druplets?

01:40:48.000 The little pods?

01:40:49.000 They freeze, and so when you eat the ice cream, you have little frozen druplets that basically pop.

01:40:55.000 It's amazing, it's so good.

01:40:57.000 Yeah, we're gonna make, um... Let's do that again.

01:40:58.000 We're gonna make wine wine.

01:41:00.000 We're gonna make, we made jam with it.

01:41:02.000 Plus we got mulberries, but I'm aware I can't have mulberries.

01:41:04.000 We have Allegheny and Himalayan blackberry everywhere.

01:41:07.000 Nature's great.

01:41:09.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:09.000 Nature's good.

01:41:10.000 I wanna do more ice cream.

01:41:11.000 Yeah, we, we wanna do, uh, we wanna make, uh, oh, and we got, you can, you can tap black walnut trees for syrup.

01:41:17.000 Really?

01:41:18.000 Wow.

01:41:18.000 Yeah.

01:41:19.000 And they say it tastes like butterscotch.

01:41:20.000 So we're going to make a black walnut syrup because we've got big black walnut trees everywhere here.

01:41:25.000 Black walnut oil, I think, is like a good medicine for... Super excited.

01:41:30.000 For, like, anti-parasite medicine.

01:41:32.000 It's used in parasite cleanses.

01:41:34.000 Yeah, apparently the black walnut nut is actually anti-parasitic.

01:41:38.000 I don't know enough about that to get anywhere near that.

01:41:40.000 Apparently you can't eat them.

01:41:41.000 But I read that... So there's farms out here that actually sell its thick, dark black walnut syrup.

01:41:48.000 And it's like syrup, you can put it on pancakes, it's like butterscotch.

01:41:52.000 And so we're gonna make some.

01:41:54.000 We're gonna tap the tree and it takes a long time and you gotta filter it, boil it down, filter it again, boil it down, filter it.

01:42:00.000 Very excited.

01:42:00.000 Plus we do have some maples we're thinking of tapping, get some maple syrup too.

01:42:04.000 Super cool stuff.

01:42:06.000 You walk outside, and I have this app called Picture This, and we can see all the different edible fruits and stuff.

01:42:06.000 Yo, it's crazy.

01:42:11.000 Yo, the grapes are everywhere.

01:42:13.000 From a distance?

01:42:13.000 You, like, aim it, and it tells you?

01:42:15.000 You take a picture, and it's like, this is the plant.

01:42:15.000 Take a picture.

01:42:18.000 There's an insane amount of grapes.

01:42:19.000 The vines have taken over everything.

01:42:22.000 Wow.

01:42:22.000 Yeah.

01:42:23.000 Nuts.

01:42:23.000 When you're, like, driving into the property, you can probably see, like, 7,000 grapes.

01:42:27.000 Yeah, they're getting bigger and bigger.

01:42:27.000 Yeah, you can.

01:42:28.000 There'd be lots of grapes out there.

01:42:30.000 Sorry.

01:42:30.000 Grapes.

01:42:30.000 Yep.

01:42:32.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:42:34.000 What have we here?

01:42:36.000 Mahil said, Ford did a 2024 Ranger with a militant pride flag as a paint job.

01:42:40.000 There you go.

01:42:42.000 All right, let's see.

01:42:45.000 Max Reddix says, I heard you mention in a previous segment that maybe you will invite Sam on the Culture War podcast.

01:42:50.000 I think how Emma looked after her segment really showed who she is. 0.69

01:42:54.000 You should consider doing the same with Sam.

01:42:58.000 I think we won't.

01:42:59.000 And the reason is, When, you know, what ended up happening was something came up where we ended up talking about the majority report.

01:43:08.000 And then Emma Vigeland hit us up saying she wanted to come on the show because they know that we're basically like, we invited Sam on before, he played us and used it for drama and clickbait, so I said no more, not doing it.

01:43:18.000 She came on the show and we offered her a tour of the property, we offered her sushi, she stood in the center of our skate park and met some of our staff, and then afterwards she lied and claimed she didn't see the skate park, we didn't show her around, and it was the weirdest thing ever.

01:43:31.000 It's because they're just lying to get clicks.

01:43:33.000 They're apparently upset now because we ran a segment that says leftist defends, you know, adult book and dating apps for kids, and they're angry, but she literally didn't defend it.

01:43:44.000 She literally said it was a good book.

01:43:45.000 I was actually shocked, right, because I've seen a bit of her content on the Majority Report.

01:43:52.000 I responded to one of the videos they did, but for her to come say something was a good book without knowing what was in it was shocking to me.

01:43:58.000 And the book in question is this one.

01:44:00.000 when you point out...

01:44:01.000 I opened genderqueer and showed her and she goes, I don't care about that and I don't 1.00

01:44:04.000 believe in censorship.

01:44:05.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you, Shane.

01:44:06.000 I'm not trying to rehash that.

01:44:07.000 I'm trying to make a point just about Sam.

01:44:10.000 The reason why I don't want him on this show is because...

01:44:14.000 what do we like to do?

01:44:15.000 Serious conversation around these issues and our passions.

01:44:18.000 What will Sam do?

01:44:19.000 He'll come in here and he'll, like, jump from the rafters and body slam the table and do other... But we could talk about socialized medicine and why, like, people taking risk kind of violates the ethos of social medicine.

01:44:30.000 He'll pretend to misunderstand something to make you say something, to make a clip out of it.

01:44:35.000 That's what they do.

01:44:36.000 And then he'll lie about what happened when he came here, like Emma did. 0.54

01:44:38.000 I think I have a bulletproof defense on socialized medicine.

01:44:41.000 Anyone that thinks we need that is crazy, in my opinion.

01:44:44.000 At first, when Emma said she didn't see the skate park, I'm like, did she not realize she was standing next to it?

01:44:49.000 Maybe she walked past and didn't realize there's ramps everywhere and rails and a seven foot tall vert wall.

01:44:55.000 And then I was told by the staff that she actually stood in the center of it after they parked their car and she walked through it.

01:45:00.000 And it's like, okay, so she's just lying.

01:45:03.000 If we invite Sam on the show, if you invite Sam on your show, that's what he does.

01:45:07.000 When I invited him on Twitter, he lied and said, yes, I'll come on the show, and then DMed me privately saying, I'm not going on your show.

01:45:13.000 It was a trick.

01:45:14.000 It's just...

01:45:17.000 You know what, by all means, Sam, do your thing.

01:45:19.000 If you're just making reality TV, make reality TV under the guise of politics.

01:45:23.000 I'm down for whatever, I just can't stand talking about them.

01:45:27.000 I would love to either never mention the majority report, Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, never mention them again, and keep doing what we're doing, or have them on, get over it, and then never mention them again.

01:45:35.000 We're talking about them because we just had them on last week, and now they're lying about what happened for clicks.

01:45:40.000 So it's become something we'll talk about.

01:45:43.000 Will we talk about it in three days?

01:45:44.000 Probably not.

01:45:45.000 Uh, this week, and I was wrong, I said we were gonna have two guests on this Friday.

01:45:48.000 Yeah, next week.

01:45:49.000 That's next week!

01:45:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:50.000 This week, we will have a good show as well, that I think will probably be talking about abortion or something, so we'll see.

01:45:57.000 Should be interesting.

01:45:57.000 That next week is, like, stacked.

01:46:00.000 Not this Friday, but the next Friday.

01:46:01.000 Yes, the next one, pardon me.

01:46:02.000 Yeah, it's gonna be a blast.

01:46:03.000 It's a lot, yeah.

01:46:04.000 Very exciting.

01:46:04.000 It's gonna be cool.

01:46:04.000 We should, I'll reach out to our guests to talk about, like, promotion for the shows, because we'll make, like, graphics for it and everything.

01:46:10.000 Yeah.

01:46:10.000 And then if they're cool, which they probably are, I just don't like to say things before, because, like, I'll give them a heads up.

01:46:16.000 Although they may have talked about it already.

01:46:17.000 I like the graphic for the Emma Vigeland episode that you guys did.

01:46:20.000 How it's kind of fading and there's, like, graphics in the background.

01:46:23.000 It's really cool.

01:46:24.000 How'd it make it?

01:46:25.000 I don't know.

01:46:25.000 On the thumbnail.

01:46:27.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:46:29.000 Daniel Domasik says, Greatest side hustle, buy Bud Light for $12, get $50 rebate, and make content destroying Bud Light.

01:46:35.000 Double dip monetize on both.

01:46:37.000 Well, I think the rebate's up to the purchase price.

01:46:40.000 So actually, the hustle would be to buy Bud Light, get the rebate, and then, you know, walk around with a cooler at baseball games or something.

01:46:47.000 Which you should not do, because you can't sell alcohol.

01:46:49.000 But I'm saying that would be a hustle.

01:46:50.000 I'll also add this.

01:46:52.000 The reason they're giving the rebates is because they want you to take the product because it's worse for them if you don't.

01:46:58.000 They have to pay to get rid of it.

01:46:59.000 Exactly.

01:47:00.000 Bud Light is in more pain when you don't take their product because they have to pay to get rid of it.

01:47:05.000 That's why they're doing this.

01:47:07.000 Do not take the rebate.

01:47:08.000 Don't try to do any kind of hustle.

01:47:10.000 Do nothing with this, alright?

01:47:12.000 They need to feel the pain.

01:47:13.000 This is interesting.

01:47:13.000 Sam Uriah says, we need a strictly enforced tiered internet with ratings like movies and TV shows.

01:47:19.000 We must have this discussion in Congress and pull up actual porn for congressional record in seconds for Americas to see. 0.99

01:47:25.000 This is interesting because in the early days of the internet, we were all very much 100% pro-free speech.

01:47:30.000 You should be allowed to post whatever you want online.

01:47:32.000 Then we saw what people were posting and we're like, you know what?

01:47:34.000 Maybe this free speech thing isn't always cracked up to be.

01:47:38.000 There are limits to what you're allowed to do in public.

01:47:40.000 Of course.

01:47:41.000 And so right now we have the worst of both worlds.

01:47:44.000 You are allowed to go in public with pictures of aborted fetuses and protest against abortion.

01:47:49.000 You are not allowed to do that on the internet.

01:47:51.000 They will delete your content, they'll ban it, they'll say it's graphic and offensive.

01:47:55.000 So, the internet is allowing the worst porn and stuff, censoring political debate.

01:48:01.000 It's the worst of everything.

01:48:03.000 You cannot go into public and show lewd and lascivious activities of adults.

01:48:08.000 You will get charged for, you know, breaking the law.

01:48:10.000 That's not free speech.

01:48:11.000 Unless you're a teacher for whatever reason.

01:48:13.000 Well, right, but I mean like... You're not going to get in any trouble.

01:48:15.000 Talking about what we should be allowed to do on the internet versus the real world, I think it should be comparable.

01:48:21.000 You can't go into Times Square holding a big picture or holding up a TV that's playing porn.

01:48:27.000 They will immediately come and be like, take this down, you can't do this, it's illegal.

01:48:31.000 But you can do it on the internet, you can do it on Twitter.

01:48:34.000 If kids can have access to it, we should seriously question whether or not it should be allowed.

01:48:39.000 At the same time, you can go into Times Square with pictures of aborted babies and protest abortion.

01:48:44.000 They can get mad at you about it, but that is free speech, that's protected.

01:48:47.000 But people do it.

01:48:49.000 In a lot of places.

01:48:50.000 But if you go on Twitter and do that, they'll flag you, they'll censor the video and say it's inappropriate.

01:48:57.000 I think this may have changed under Musk, but if you just misgendered somebody on Twitter, if you don't use someone's fake, made-up pronouns, that could get you kicked off Twitter.

01:49:04.000 In real life, you could do that.

01:49:05.000 So we need to make sure kids don't have access to obscene content.

01:49:09.000 It should be a crime to be sharing it with kids.

01:49:12.000 Or, let me put it this way.

01:49:13.000 Right now, you have these porn websites that are like, are you actually 18?

01:49:17.000 You click yes. 0.99

01:49:18.000 Like, that's ridiculous.

01:49:20.000 Imagine if a guy was outside in the street, and he had a bunch of nudie mags, and a kid walked up, and he was like, are you old enough? 0.91

01:49:25.000 And he goes, works for me!

01:49:25.000 And the kid said, yep.

01:49:27.000 Imagine if there was a casino.

01:49:28.000 And a 10-year-old kid walks in and the security guard goes, are you old enough to gamble?

01:49:31.000 And the kid goes, yeah.

01:49:32.000 And he goes, works for me.

01:49:33.000 I just went to AB InBev's website to find out if Stella was one of their products.

01:49:36.000 And it was like, wait, wait, before you view our website, are you 18?

01:49:39.000 And I was like, yes.

01:49:41.000 And they were like, okay, good.

01:49:42.000 Imagine going to a bar.

01:49:45.000 A 10-year-old kid walks into a bar like, hey, hold on there a minute, are you old enough to drink?

01:49:48.000 Yes.

01:49:49.000 Works for me.

01:49:50.000 That's not how it works.

01:49:52.000 There's a classic bit from the first episode of The Simpsons where Bart sits down, he goes to get a tattoo, and the guy goes, wait a minute, are you 21?

01:49:57.000 He goes, of course, sir.

01:49:58.000 And he's like, alright.

01:49:59.000 It's a weird conversation because the internet's not public.

01:50:02.000 It's not the public like we know the public before the internet.

01:50:06.000 You do it from your own home.

01:50:07.000 If you're sending an email to someone, there's no public activity going on.

01:50:10.000 If it's a website that everyone can access, technically, we consider it kind of public, but if someone doesn't have a computer, they have no ability to access it.

01:50:17.000 So it's not really publicly available unless you have money to buy a machine to utilize it.

01:50:22.000 That's like saying if someone stands in Times Square with a picture, it's not publicly accessible because you can't travel to Times Square.

01:50:28.000 Everyone can travel to Times Square.

01:50:29.000 Everyone can walk there.

01:50:30.000 No, they can't.

01:50:31.000 Yeah, everyone has access.

01:50:32.000 Foot traffic.

01:50:34.000 Everyone can get there.

01:50:35.000 There's no, like... That's not true.

01:50:36.000 Financial... If you're in Seattle, you're not gonna survive a trek to New York City.

01:50:40.000 Oh, but you could.

01:50:41.000 You could do it.

01:50:42.000 Legally.

01:50:42.000 And physically.

01:50:43.000 You physically could take a bus and go there and walk there and be there without having to...

01:50:47.000 Well, technically you'd have to buy the bus ticket, I guess, in that position.

01:50:50.000 Right, I'm saying like if you just walked you, you'd have the resources to do it.

01:50:52.000 But if it was like...

01:50:52.000 Now you can make the argument you can go to a library because the computers are there for

01:50:55.000 public use or you can see the images on a TV in a bookstore display window.

01:51:00.000 So like it is publicly accessible.

01:51:04.000 Just because you don't have the means to do it is not the argument.

01:51:06.000 Publicly accessible is different than public, I guess.

01:51:09.000 Tim, you mentioned there needs to be stronger age verification on pornographic websites, aside from someone just going, yes, I am 18.

01:51:09.000 I want to mention something.

01:51:16.000 In Utah, they implemented a law requiring strengthened protections so that children can stumble on porn, and what Pornhub did was they boycotted Utah as a result.

01:51:27.000 Nope, we don't want to show stuff to people in Utah.

01:51:30.000 Well, that's a win on both fronts, but also you are making it abundantly clear that it's extremely important for your business model to be able to show pornographic content to minors.

01:51:39.000 I want to mention something.

01:51:39.000 You mentioned the 21.

01:51:40.000 Someone asked you if you're 21.

01:51:42.000 We went out to eat a couple months ago, and we were ordering drinks, and the waiter was like, are you 21?

01:51:47.000 And I was like, no.

01:51:51.000 I'm 37!

01:51:53.000 What am I supposed to say to that question?

01:51:54.000 Are you 21?

01:51:55.000 I'm older than that.

01:51:55.000 No, I'm not.

01:51:56.000 That's what I said.

01:51:57.000 I was like, no, I'm older than 21.

01:51:59.000 It's like a weird question to ask.

01:52:00.000 Are you at least 21?

01:52:00.000 Exactly.

01:52:01.000 No.

01:52:01.000 Are you 21?

01:52:02.000 He's like, wait, what?

01:52:03.000 I think a better formulation would be, have you 21 years?

01:52:06.000 Because if you have 37 years, you do have 27.

01:52:09.000 You do have 21 years.

01:52:10.000 That's actually how they phrase it, I think, in, like, French and Spanish.

01:52:13.000 Yeah, like, how many years do you have?

01:52:15.000 And then, like, do you have at least... Do you have 21 years?

01:52:18.000 I do, I have more than that, actually.

01:52:19.000 Are you 21?

01:52:20.000 No.

01:52:23.000 All right.

01:52:24.000 Jon Stewart says, when I had sex ed in high school in the 90s, it was about contraception use and STD prevention, and we had to have signed parental consent.

01:52:31.000 Yeah, that's what I remember.

01:52:32.000 You mean they didn't give you BDSM education and talk about eating poop? 0.95

01:52:36.000 I guess those were the dark ages, Tim.

01:52:38.000 Even in 5th grade, they told me, it was like 1988 or 9 or something, they said, like, it is pleasurable, and abstinence, they have accepted abstinence doesn't work, is the thing.

01:52:47.000 Like, they weren't saying, don't do it.

01:52:48.000 They were saying, if you do it, be very careful, use a condom, and they were like, because STDs and pregnancy.

01:52:54.000 That was like the ethos.

01:52:56.000 The idea that abstinence doesn't work comes from Kinsey, and all that data was fudged, Well, that was a funny thing, too, about when we had Emma on, because she asked me two things that didn't apply to this show or me.

01:53:07.000 She asked me if, like, well, what if, should they allow the Bible in schools?

01:53:11.000 Like, isn't the Bible, I was like, no, I think there's things in the Bible that parents should probably be talking to their kids about.

01:53:15.000 Like, what is it?

01:53:18.000 Ezekiel 2320, the meme verse, talks about emissions of horses and stuff like that.

01:53:23.000 Yeah, that's like something the parents, so sure.

01:53:25.000 And then she asked me if I was in favor of abstinence-only sex education.

01:53:28.000 I was like, no, of course not.

01:53:29.000 It's like, oh, like, dude, like, what do you think?

01:53:31.000 Yeah.

01:53:32.000 But, uh, let's, uh, what was I going to read?

01:53:35.000 Oh, here we go.

01:53:35.000 Badass.

01:53:36.000 Thomas TJG says, Reuters claims that every living president are descendants of slave owners except Trump. 0.91

01:53:44.000 Wait a minute.

01:53:46.000 Wait a minute.

01:53:47.000 They're all descendants of slaves. 0.99

01:53:48.000 Well, his mother was white, so maybe her ancestors were.

01:53:51.000 It's because I think Trump's... Didn't Trump's grandparents immigrate here?

01:53:56.000 Yeah, they were from Germany.

01:53:57.000 It's funny that they said that about Obama too.

01:53:59.000 They just threw him in there.

01:54:02.000 Hold on.

01:54:03.000 I want to look that up.

01:54:04.000 I want to see if it's true that Obama's grandparents... I saw this article earlier.

01:54:09.000 No way.

01:54:09.000 Yep.

01:54:11.000 Yo, but that's not shocking for the United States.

01:54:15.000 You need to realize what that means. 0.95

01:54:17.000 It means that slave owners were raping slaves. 0.99

01:54:20.000 That's screwed up. 0.98

01:54:21.000 And so there are a lot of people in this country who are black or descendants of slave owners for very messed up reasons.

01:54:26.000 Often when I explain to people why my whole life I was told I was Korean and then found out that I was part Japanese, it's not for good reasons that my Korean ancestors have some Japanese in them.

01:54:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:37.000 Well, is that why they talk about it?

01:54:39.000 Because I would imagine if that was in your ancestry because of a slave being, you know, abused by an owner that you wouldn't, like, consider yourself a descendant of them.

01:54:50.000 No, you still are.

01:54:51.000 I'm just saying there was that black activist woman, I've forgotten. 0.99

01:54:55.000 Rachel Dolezal?

01:54:56.000 No, no, she wasn't really black.

01:54:57.000 No, there was like a prominent black activist who found out that she was a descendant of... who was that?

01:55:02.000 I don't remember her name, but I remember the clip.

01:55:04.000 And everyone started laughing about how funny it was, and I'm like, guys, that's not funny.

01:55:07.000 Like, that proves her point.

01:55:08.000 That proves her activism.

01:55:10.000 That's a good point, dude.

01:55:11.000 They were trying to make it seem like because she was against racism and, like, fighting all this stuff, it was somehow discredited because she was actually a descendant of slave owners, and I'm like, no.

01:55:18.000 That bolsters all of her arguments.

01:55:20.000 It's a horrifying thing.

01:55:21.000 Well, and also to be like, yeah, you're against this thing?

01:55:24.000 Then why did your ancestors do it?

01:55:26.000 What?

01:55:27.000 Excuse me?

01:55:28.000 Yeah.

01:55:29.000 I'm like, I tell people like, oh yeah, for most of my life I said I was like, you know, part Korean, but now I know that I'm 5% Japanese.

01:55:34.000 And they're like, oh, that's cool.

01:55:35.000 I'm like, actually, it's not.

01:55:37.000 Actually, it's not.

01:55:40.000 No, it kind of is, I don't know, but it's like kind of horrifying when you think about it.

01:55:44.000 Yeah, not a lot of good things were happening over there a long time ago, if you get my drift.

01:55:48.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:55:50.000 GS059 says, Ian, people demanded gun-free zones.

01:55:52.000 Now there are signs everywhere.

01:55:54.000 It doesn't matter if they work or not.

01:55:55.000 That's a good point.

01:55:56.000 They were like, hey, we don't want guns here, so put up a sign, and then people are just, criminals just gonna criminal.

01:56:01.000 Yeah.

01:56:02.000 Doesn't matter.

01:56:02.000 Not gonna stop them.

01:56:04.000 PowderPZ says, why aren't we talking about the actual content of the audio tape?

01:56:07.000 Not just that one line.

01:56:09.000 They were trying to force him to evade Iran.

01:56:11.000 Yeah, I know.

01:56:12.000 Like, he was like, look, Millie drew up these documents to invade Iran.

01:56:15.000 That's why they're going after him, partly. 0.99

01:56:17.000 Because Trump was like, we're not gonna invade this, are you nuts? 0.82

01:56:19.000 And they were like, we want to. 0.96

01:56:22.000 And you're gonna do it.

01:56:23.000 Trump didn't start any new wars.

01:56:25.000 That's why they don't like him.

01:56:25.000 Partly, why they don't like him.

01:56:27.000 It's a big reason.

01:56:28.000 Oh, this, okay, I'm totally sidetracking here, but I just realized when you mentioned the

01:56:31.000 thing about Obama potentially being the descendant of people who own slaves, but Obama's not

01:56:36.000 a descendant of slaves.

01:56:38.000 Like his dad was from Kenya.

01:56:40.000 He's not the descendant of American slaves.

01:56:44.000 So if he does have slaveholders in his past, that it would have been like, it wouldn't

01:56:50.000 have been because the slave was abused.

01:56:51.000 I still don't think that matters, to be completely honest.

01:56:54.000 Look, I don't want to punish people for the sins of their ancestors, but at the same time, you know, you could imagine that being used against any Republican.

01:57:03.000 Thomas Jefferson owned slaves.

01:57:04.000 He had a lot of really, really awesome ideas.

01:57:06.000 Owning slaves was not one of the good things he did.

01:57:08.000 However, the ideas and the seeds that were planted by the Founding Fathers led very quickly to the abolition of slavery.

01:57:17.000 Look, people point out that the Commonwealth countries abolished slavery well before we did.

01:57:23.000 It's true.

01:57:24.000 And then we had to fight a massive civil war, partially over slavery, over the issues around it.

01:57:29.000 Economics, it's a lot more complicated than that.

01:57:31.000 A lot of people died because of it.

01:57:33.000 And, you know, so I think the founding documents and the founding fathers, for all their faults, planted some good seeds that have made this country fantastic.

01:57:42.000 I would agree, and people will argue, well, the founders wanted the United States to be this new free country, but then they didn't put anything in the Constitution that forbids slavery.

01:57:52.000 Okay, we're not going to get the 13 colonies to ratify the Constitution and the Bill of Rights if you had something in there that banned slavery.

01:57:59.000 It doesn't mean that all of the founders were in favor of slavery.

01:58:02.000 It just means that as a political reality, they were not going to be able to have their system of government pass unless the colonies ratified, and if they couldn't get it to pass, then they would just go back to England, which was not based on principles of freedom, and so there would be less reason to believe slavery would ever end.

01:58:15.000 And the power that Thomas Jefferson had was a lot of it was because of the slaves that he owned doing his labor for him.

01:58:22.000 And without that power, he wouldn't have been as influential and able to go to Congress and be a congressman and all those things.

01:58:27.000 So it was, you know, it's double-edged sword.

01:58:30.000 The Cranky Gen Xer says... Wait, I don't know what that means.

01:58:35.000 I'm not gonna read that one.

01:58:36.000 Dave Dowell says, Ian, Cali has border checks for produce.

01:58:39.000 They check random cars, not just farmers.

01:58:41.000 If a state wants checkpoints, it's legal.

01:58:41.000 True.

01:58:43.000 Also, the whole point of defunding the police is to create a national police.

01:58:47.000 Yeah.

01:58:48.000 Many people pointing out that there are checkpoints for fruit laws.

01:58:52.000 Yes.

01:58:52.000 California and Nevada.

01:58:54.000 Crazy.

01:58:54.000 Yes.

01:58:55.000 Yeah, actually, I think wine berries are illegal to transport.

01:58:58.000 Interesting.

01:58:58.000 Because of the bugs?

01:59:00.000 No, because they're an invasive species. 0.59

01:59:01.000 They choke out other plants.

01:59:03.000 But they're so good.

01:59:05.000 They are massive.

01:59:06.000 They're raspberries.

01:59:07.000 They're a Chinese kind of raspberry.

01:59:09.000 They're called wineberries because people make wine with them.

01:59:11.000 And we intend to harvest them and we're going to juice them.

01:59:15.000 We're going to make a syrup with the wineberry juice.

01:59:18.000 We're going to cook it down, maybe add a little lemon juice and some sugar.

01:59:22.000 And then we're going to use the pulp to make cakes and cookies.

01:59:26.000 Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.

01:59:27.000 And we're gonna make ice cream.

01:59:29.000 Dude, I'm pretty pumped, to be honest.

01:59:30.000 So great, we're gonna make ice cream.

01:59:31.000 The ice cream machine's really fun.

01:59:33.000 You scrape it, it's getting cold on the top.

01:59:35.000 We have two.

01:59:35.000 We have the one that automatically spins, and then we have the cold sheet where you pour it on and then you scrape it and mix it around.

01:59:42.000 Yeah, it's so much fun.

01:59:43.000 Yeah, you can buy them on Amazon.

01:59:45.000 Good, fun stuff.

01:59:47.000 Alright, let's see what we got in the old Super Chats here.

01:59:50.000 Ian Kinney says, did you reach out to Ice Cube for the Culture War or IRL?

01:59:54.000 I think somebody did.

01:59:56.000 I don't handle booking, so.

01:59:57.000 He's going on a tour.

01:59:59.000 Well, not a musical tour.

01:59:59.000 He is?

02:00:00.000 He's going on a tour to talk about how he can't stand the, I don't know, what is it, the global economic order?

02:00:04.000 He's frustrated about something.

02:00:04.000 I'm not sure.

02:00:05.000 He wants to let people know.

02:00:06.000 The gatekeepers.

02:00:07.000 Ice Cube?

02:00:08.000 Yeah.

02:00:09.000 Ice Cube says the gatekeepers, he's going to bypass the gatekeepers and do shows and stuff.

02:00:13.000 Oh.

02:00:14.000 All right.

02:00:15.000 Brin Terranova says, is Trash House taking demo submissions?

02:00:18.000 I don't know.

02:00:19.000 So, uh, social stations are very, very hard.

02:00:21.000 I think we'll have to confer with Carter on how we want to handle that moving forward.

02:00:25.000 And then he's basically in charge of it also.

02:00:28.000 But I will talk to him about it.

02:00:30.000 We have a new song coming out shortly.

02:00:32.000 And we're in we're negotiating with another band about releasing some songs that I think are absolutely fantastic.

02:00:38.000 So we'll see what happens.

02:00:39.000 And then yeah, we want we want more.

02:00:40.000 Absolutely.

02:00:42.000 Let's grab a couple more here. 0.91

02:00:46.000 Hold on.

02:00:46.000 No, no, no.

02:00:46.000 That's completely ridiculous.

02:00:47.000 heard Seamus say society survived because of the Ten Commandments, let's just ignore 0.99

02:00:51.000 all those other civilizations that existed before Christianity killed everyone else. 0.97

02:00:54.000 Hold on.

02:00:55.000 No, no, no. 0.99

02:00:56.000 That's completely ridiculous. 0.88

02:00:58.000 People had something approximating the Ten Commandments in very many cultures throughout 0.96

02:01:03.000 world history.

02:01:04.000 And if your culture ended up rising to a point of prominence where you were able to amass

02:01:08.000 wealth and have a large-scale civilization, it's because you were following something

02:01:12.000 approximating the Ten Commandments.

02:01:14.000 Dude, you cannot have a functioning society and you cannot build wealth if one person is sleeping with every woman in the community. 1.00

02:01:20.000 People are committing adultery, people are stealing, people are killing.

02:01:23.000 What's happened in various societies historically As they become wealthy and as they become insulated, certain people who are very high status ended up being able to routinely violate those moral principles without suffering consequences.

02:01:36.000 And there wasn't the same Christian framework to tell them that even as powerful people there would be eternal consequences for their actions.

02:01:43.000 But people at the bottom of the hierarchy and people who are living in a state of nature basically always came to the same moral conclusions, and if they didn't come to those moral conclusions, their tribe never rose out of its more natural state to build a large-scale civilization.

02:02:01.000 I guess the Aztecs is all I'm thinking about.

02:02:02.000 They weren't really large-scale, I guess.

02:02:04.000 Yeah, well, no, no, no, so, but even the Aztecs, right?

02:02:07.000 The Aztecs had a horrific culture, and I acknowledge that there have been many horrible and satanic cultures throughout history, but the masses were not encouraged to do things like steal, kill, and rape, and if they were, then those civilizations crumbled.

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