Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Audio Leak HOAX, Trump NOT CHARGED In Iran Docs, Media Lying w-Michael Seifert

00:00:00.000 So the other day, you know, I said that we could start by talking about this audio leak

00:00:27.000 of Donald Trump that CNN put out.

00:00:29.000 But I said, you know, the rule is you gotta wait a couple days before you do because the context will always change.

00:00:35.000 The narrative was that Donald Trump was caught on tape saying he had these documents and they were classified.

00:00:43.000 Then, the leak comes out.

00:00:45.000 Everybody hears it.

00:00:46.000 The View and many others say this is damning evidence.

00:00:49.000 Trump's gonna go to jail.

00:00:50.000 This is proof positive.

00:00:52.000 Now we're learning that the whole story was a hoax.

00:00:55.000 Sure, the audio exists.

00:00:56.000 Donald Trump was talking about declassifying certain stories.

00:01:00.000 But it appears now that Donald Trump wasn't actually holding classified documents in the audio.

00:01:06.000 He was talking about a news report that had come out a few days earlier.

00:01:10.000 And Trump is not being charged in relation to anything having to do with the Iran memo.

00:01:15.000 So the only thing we can surmise, Donald Trump is telling the truth when he says in the recording, when you hear him flipping through papers, he's talking about a New Yorker story and saying he should have declassified the intel behind the story.

00:01:28.000 And the media running with the lies.

00:01:31.000 So they say the walls are closing in, but they're not.

00:01:33.000 It's all fake news.

00:01:34.000 So we'll talk about that.

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00:03:31.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Michael Seifert.

00:03:34.000 How's it going?

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00:04:24.000 Yeah, thank you.

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00:04:25.000 Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.

00:04:27.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:04:30.000 How you doing?

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00:04:35.000 Here with my friend Serge.

00:04:36.000 I should introduce you, I guess, in between.

00:04:38.000 I'm sorry, this is just occurring to me.

00:04:40.000 There's nothing wrong with what you said.

00:04:42.000 Yeah, it was fine.

00:04:43.000 I am Serge.com.

00:04:44.000 I am ready to start when you are, Tim.

00:04:46.000 Let's jump into this story.

00:04:47.000 We saw this last night.

00:04:49.000 From The View, they say, as a mediaite reporting, lock him up already.

00:04:53.000 The View gets wild as hosts suggest Trump selling documents predict he gets 10 years in prison.

00:05:00.000 So I want to give you this context first.

00:05:02.000 Here's what they say.

00:05:03.000 I mean, short of this judge fundamentally screwing up the case, I don't see how he gets less than five to ten years.

00:05:08.000 He's literally in this.

00:05:10.000 He discusses the contents of classified information with people without security clearances and then acknowledges he can't declassify since he's not president.

00:05:17.000 Heavens!

00:05:18.000 They got him!

00:05:19.000 They got him.

00:05:21.000 I knew that if we waited a day, the context around the leaked audio would come out and it would debunk the narrative.

00:05:28.000 And lo, it has.

00:05:30.000 From CBS News, Iran memo not among the 31 records underlying charges in Trump federal indictment.

00:05:39.000 It would seem that the context around this story is actually relatively clear.

00:05:45.000 Jack Posobiec tweets, DOJ claims Trump is on tape showing classified docs on July 21st.

00:05:50.000 The docs have never been found.

00:05:51.000 But six days before on July 15th, the New Yorker had an article where Milley accused Trump of wanting to strike Iran.

00:05:58.000 Is it possible he was just holding the article?

00:06:01.000 Donald Trump had said that he had in his documents newspaper clippings and other things like that.

00:06:07.000 In the audio, I can understand, even I thought initially, it does sound like he's holding these documents.

00:06:14.000 Donald Trump said immediately of that recording, he's like, these are magazine clippings.

00:06:18.000 These are copies of news reports.

00:06:21.000 Now it's all starting to become clear.

00:06:23.000 Donald Trump did have classified documents to some degree or whatever at Mar-a-Lago.

00:06:28.000 This was in Bedminster.

00:06:30.000 They didn't find the documents.

00:06:31.000 Why would Trump get rid of these but keep those?

00:06:34.000 It makes no sense.

00:06:36.000 Trump not being charged with the Iran memo documents, the DOJ not finding Iran memo documents, a story coming out about Milley, and Donald Trump saying he was holding the story?

00:06:48.000 Yeah, the most likely outcome is that Trump is sitting with this reporter and he's like, take a look at these papers.

00:06:53.000 You know, this is what they give me.

00:06:54.000 And he's pointing to a story from the New Yorker and he says, I should have declassified this, I can't now.

00:07:00.000 He wasn't talking about classified documents, he was saying the proof behind the lies.

00:07:05.000 He could have declassified and debunked the story.

00:07:08.000 So! 0.81

00:07:09.000 It would seem that everything they're saying about locking up Trump, once again, just another, the walls are closing in, bombshell report, all lies as predicted.

00:07:16.000 Didn't, by the way, The View, like two days ago, in response to Hunter Biden's leaked WhatsApp messages, say that the true story of Hunter Biden and his father Joe Biden's corruption was a story of a father's love for his son and overcoming addiction?

00:07:30.000 So while that's their response to blatant corruption that we're actually seeing in leaked WhatsApp messages where Hunter is literally telling a Chinese official, I'm sitting here with my father, send us the money, that gets released and instead The View jumps on this story without the facts.

00:07:45.000 It all crumbles, as it always does, and we play the same reel over and over and over again.

00:07:50.000 I want to pull up the document from the Trump indictment.

00:07:54.000 Take a look at this.

00:07:55.000 This is how corrupt the DOJ is.

00:07:58.000 They say that Trump no longer was president, gave an interview at the office of Bedminster, blah, blah, blah.

00:08:03.000 He was recorded with Trump's knowledge and consent.

00:08:05.000 Before the interview, the media published reports at the end of Trump's term, a senior military official purportedly feared that Trump might order an attack on country A. Take a look at Trump's quote.

00:08:13.000 We now know senior military official is Milley.

00:08:16.000 We know country A is Iran.

00:08:18.000 Trump said, well, with Milley, let me see that.

00:08:21.000 I'll show you an example.

00:08:22.000 He said that I wanted to attack Iran.

00:08:24.000 Isn't it amazing?

00:08:25.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:08:27.000 If Donald Trump was holding a classified document, the document would not read, Milley accuses Trump of wanting to attack Iran.

00:08:35.000 It would say, proposal for attack on Iran. 0.64

00:08:38.000 Or Donald Trump, you know... Or Millie's reasons not to.

00:08:42.000 Yeah, it would be a document explaining.

00:08:45.000 Instead Trump says, I'll show you an example.

00:08:48.000 He said I wanted to attack Iran.

00:08:50.000 And then you have the New Yorker story.

00:08:52.000 Millie says Trump wanted to attack Iran.

00:08:54.000 It is actually kind of clear based on what Trump said.

00:08:58.000 He's talking about a news report.

00:08:59.000 They're just lying about everything.

00:09:00.000 And here we are once again having to call this out.

00:09:04.000 Now look, I'll say this.

00:09:04.000 It's entirely possible.

00:09:06.000 I'll always, although it's not absolute, maybe this goes to court and they're like, no, actually it really was a document, but they have no document.

00:09:13.000 They found no document.

00:09:14.000 Trump says there was no document.

00:09:15.000 The story just come out.

00:09:16.000 This is insane. 0.94

00:09:17.000 Yeah, sometimes you have to take the simplest explanation, which is that the left-wing media wants Trump to be a terrible person.

00:09:25.000 And I think, obviously, without context, you can frame anything anybody says to give it a negative light.

00:09:30.000 But in this case, all you needed was very slight information to make it clear what was going on.

00:09:36.000 The way I describe it is like, imagine there's some kid playing Grand Theft Auto, and he's talking about his plans, and then you take a quote, a recording of a kid playing GTA, and it will sound like this kid's gonna be a maniac.

00:09:51.000 Talking about stealing cars and kidnapping people, and you're like, oh man, someone's gotta stop this kid!

00:09:55.000 and then you go in his room and it's just some 12 year old kid playing GTA.

00:09:58.000 This is basically what they do. Because no one can see what Trump is actually

00:10:02.000 doing, they twist the context. Listen to the paperwork.

00:10:05.000 Trump's saying he could declassify these papers. He was talking about the story

00:10:08.000 behind the story. The documents behind the story could have been declassified. He

00:10:11.000 can't do it now because he's not in office. He doesn't have the documents

00:10:15.000 anymore.

00:10:16.000 Well I was just gonna say, well and the problem even for the left that loves to jump on

00:10:19.000 any stuff like this, it's the boy who cried wolf at this point.

00:10:23.000 So everybody's assumption anytime anything like this gets quote unquote exposed is that it's just another bureaucratic nonsense.

00:10:31.000 The left's coming after Trump and Trump probably didn't actually do anything that was wrong.

00:10:35.000 And this is another one of those examples where it looks Potentially bad, because they're only revealing part of the story.

00:10:41.000 And so, part of the problem is, nobody trusts our institutions anymore.

00:10:45.000 So, it's the same thing now we're seeing with actual corruption with the president that's in office.

00:10:50.000 To be fair, can we really call The View our institutions?

00:10:54.000 No, we can't. 0.75

00:10:55.000 That's a group of empty-headed people.

00:10:57.000 Yes.

00:10:57.000 But it's been around for a long time.

00:10:59.000 A lot of people watch it, I think.

00:11:00.000 I'm not totally sure.

00:11:01.000 There are a lot of wine moms that have nothing to do And that's where they're getting their information. 1.00

00:11:06.000 So now they're hearing that Trump obviously 100% did a terrible thing, and they won't look for the nuance.

00:11:11.000 I think that's the biggest thing. 0.97

00:11:12.000 White women must be stopped! 1.00

00:11:14.000 We're crazy, what can I say? 0.99

00:11:16.000 Can I play this 20-second clip from Family Guy to help you guys understand the view?

00:11:20.000 This is important context, and I'm providing commentary on this clip, so I want you all to watch this clip.

00:11:26.000 Oh, can we get the audio?

00:11:27.000 Yeah, audio's on the wrong channel.

00:11:32.000 Hey, Stewie, three o'clock.

00:11:35.000 No, no, no!

00:11:35.000 No, not again!

00:11:36.000 Nyeh, let me out of here! 1.00

00:11:47.000 I can't watch another second!

00:11:49.000 So my favorite part of the gag is when the woman balks and then she gets up and there's an egg and the camera zooms in on the egg.

00:11:57.000 Very, very well done joke family guy.

00:11:59.000 That's basically what The View is.

00:12:01.000 So, uh, fair point, Phil.

00:12:02.000 We can't call The View one of our institutions.

00:12:04.000 But it is sad that all of our actual institutions don't look that different than The View.

00:12:09.000 New York Times is posting pretty much the same content.

00:12:12.000 The DOJ says the same thing The View says on the same days.

00:12:15.000 It's insane.

00:12:16.000 You're 100% right.

00:12:17.000 And it's something that I've talked about before.

00:12:19.000 It's not just something like The View and The New York Times.

00:12:23.000 It goes to Teen Vogue.

00:12:25.000 So it's not just about one narrative coming from one perspective or whatever.

00:12:31.000 Why would Teen Vogue have the same kind of stories that GQ runs? 0.79

00:12:37.000 And they really do.

00:12:38.000 They all come from the same perspective.

00:12:39.000 But hold on, remember when Teen Vogue ran that, like, Marks Puff piece?

00:12:42.000 Yeah!

00:12:43.000 Like, what's going on at Teen Vogue?

00:12:45.000 Commies everywhere!

00:12:46.000 Teen Vogue ran a What to Do to Help Your Friend Who Just Had an Abortion, and they suggested you get funny movies and pins that support Planned Parenthood.

00:12:53.000 Teen Vogue is a classic.

00:12:54.000 They're really helpful, and they're helping.

00:12:56.000 But they pass it off as, well, we are making news palatable to younger readers so we can raise more informed people.

00:13:03.000 But we only want them to be informed in our perspective, and that's effectively what all of these institutions do, right?

00:13:08.000 They don't want you to follow.

00:13:09.000 No one is going to issue a correction.

00:13:12.000 The view is not going to come out and be like, turns out there was more context, you know, we jumped to conclusions.

00:13:17.000 They're just going to pretend like they were right all along or like this never happened until they think they have some sort of actual evidence.

00:13:23.000 I mean, compare this leaked audio to actual WhatsApp messages.

00:13:27.000 One is clear and one is taken out of context.

00:13:30.000 They're probably gandus and they're literally thirsty for just a drop of some way to cast Trump as the bad guy.

00:13:42.000 Well, Anne, the problem with what that exact scenario just laid out is that anybody that actually reports the WhatsApp messages with Hunter Biden is now labeled conservative media.

00:13:51.000 So it's like, no, no, no, we're not conservative media.

00:13:53.000 This is just objectively what happened.

00:13:56.000 Vice President Sun is literally texting this Chinese official saying we've got your money if you're...

00:14:01.000 But now if you report that you're seen as right-wing. So like, I know people real well in my life that were like

00:14:06.000 80s blue dog Democrats that were taught to trust our institutions. You listen to CNN, you watch

00:14:11.000 these shows, you read Time magazine, and that's supposed to be the reliable forms. Well now,

00:14:16.000 anytime anybody's reporting the truth they write it off because it's like, well no that's conservative

00:14:20.000 right-wing news and I don't, you know, I don't want to get involved in the political divide.

00:14:24.000 So they just take whatever the regime is saying, because they have these mouthpieces, and they never actually get exposed to the truth.

00:14:28.000 That's why when you tell people like, hey, Biden actually said this, they're like, nah, that wouldn't be real, or else I would have known about it.

00:14:33.000 There's a lot of that going on.

00:14:36.000 And it's been going on for a long time.

00:14:37.000 When, I think it was 2000, 18 or something like that.

00:14:43.000 I and I was talking about Biden had said That there that he was going to come after rifles.

00:14:48.000 They were AKs and and and then AR-15s and friends of mine that are You know pretty left-leaning.

00:14:55.000 We're swearing up and down.

00:14:57.000 No, they don't know they don't know he didn't and I'm like I literally had to send them links and they were like they actually had to be like wow, okay Well, that's a terrible idea for him to say that cuz he's gonna I'm like, well, yeah, but it's you don't know even what The people that you ostensibly are going to be voting for are saying, so how can you consider yourself an informed voter?

00:15:17.000 Did you have a moment where you stopped trusting the media?

00:15:20.000 Do you remember?

00:15:21.000 Oh yeah, but it was a long time ago.

00:15:22.000 What was it?

00:15:22.000 Tell me.

00:15:23.000 Yellow Cake.

00:15:24.000 What was that?

00:15:24.000 Yellow Cake Uranium in Iraq.

00:15:27.000 That was when I was like, okay.

00:15:28.000 Because initially, when I was young, I kind of thought Bill Clinton was cool.

00:15:33.000 He played sax and smoked pot.

00:15:35.000 He was a hip guy!

00:15:37.000 I was a kid, and so I thought he was alright.

00:15:40.000 When, uh, when it came out that he had, you know, lied under oath and stuff and impeachment, I figured that he was going to get removed from office because the president's supposed to be held to higher standards.

00:15:49.000 And then when he wasn't, I was like, oh, well, then that means that, and this is a simple mind to take, I understand, but I was young.

00:15:55.000 That means the Democrats are the lying party and the Republicans are the party that tells the truth. 0.54

00:16:00.000 And then we went to, you know, eight years later, we were in Iraq and I'm like, wait a minute, they both lie. 0.97

00:16:06.000 So I can't trust any of them.

00:16:07.000 And the media had sold both of them as No, that's a Democrat.

00:16:12.000 Is that Berman Supreme?

00:16:13.000 Yeah, Berman's a Democrat.

00:16:13.000 He hangs out with the Libertarians now.

00:16:15.000 party is the party where the guy takes his pants off on stage and they start arguing

00:16:18.000 about selling drugs to kids.

00:16:20.000 Or walks around with a boot on his head.

00:16:22.000 No, that's a Democrat.

00:16:24.000 He probably actually runs.

00:16:25.000 Is that Berman Supreme?

00:16:26.000 Yeah, Berman's a Democrat.

00:16:27.000 He hangs out with the Libertarians now.

00:16:28.000 Yeah, but he runs as a Democrat.

00:16:30.000 Oh, thank God.

00:16:31.000 Like, you know, it's not fair to include the satirical candidate into the legitimate Libertarian

00:16:37.000 Party candidates who actually have taken their clothes off on stage and advocate for selling

00:16:40.000 drugs to kids.

00:16:42.000 But the Libertarian Party has improved dramatically with the Mises Caucus, so we're big fans of those guys, and they're a much more serious political party now, so we'll see how that, you know, how that plays out.

00:16:52.000 It's gonna be interesting, I mean, Let's jump to this story first.

00:16:55.000 I was going to pull up a different story, but let's pull this one up.

00:16:58.000 From Rasmussen, 35% of Democrats think RFK Jr.

00:17:01.000 could win.

00:17:02.000 The latest Rasmussen report, national telephone, and online survey found 49% of likely U.S.

00:17:05.000 voters have a favorable impression of RFK Jr., including 14% with a very favorable opinion.

00:17:12.000 38 percent view Kennedy unfavorably, including 18 percent, with a very unfavorable impression, while another 14 are not sure.

00:17:19.000 So, uh, this is it.

00:17:20.000 You know, we're not, we're not, we don't have the rest of the data.

00:17:22.000 That's, that's the general idea right here.

00:17:24.000 RFK Jr.' 's polling in the double digits.

00:17:28.000 We're seeing something interesting.

00:17:29.000 A lot of people have suggested this could be our last election, both on the left and the right, or maybe Maybe 2020 was our last sort of election, I guess, with ballot harvesting and all the rules being changed and COVID lockdown, can you really even call it?

00:17:44.000 Maybe 2016 was the last.

00:17:46.000 Because whatever's coming up in 2024, it'll approximate an election like 2020 did, but it's going to be very, very weird.

00:17:54.000 So, there will be something, but you're going to have, what, RFK Jr., Trump?

00:18:00.000 I mean, who are the candidates going to be?

00:18:01.000 The fact is, DeSantis people don't want to vote Trump, Trump people don't want to vote DeSantis, they are fighting to an extreme degree.

00:18:07.000 You've got the media smearing RFK Jr.

00:18:09.000 to an extreme degree, but he's polling in double digits, consistently around 20%.

00:18:13.000 It seems like the system's starting to fracture in a bunch of different ways.

00:18:17.000 So it's hard to know exactly who's going to win.

00:18:19.000 But I did see another poll that said Democrats are more likely to vote third party than Republicans, which suggests a Trump victory.

00:18:26.000 Because if RFK Jr.

00:18:27.000 runs as an independent, you know, not getting the Democratic nomination, or if they put Biden in, then it will split the Democrat vote.

00:18:34.000 Do you think RFK Jr.

00:18:35.000 would run as an independent, or will he pull a Bernie?

00:18:38.000 There's all kinds of reports that he's considering running independent.

00:18:41.000 He hasn't told me personally what he's going to do, but he might as well.

00:18:44.000 I mean, he has so much momentum.

00:18:46.000 There's no reason, if he has the funding, there's no reason for him not to.

00:18:49.000 And do you think the Democrats would let him touch the debate stage?

00:18:52.000 No.

00:18:52.000 You don't think so?

00:18:53.000 No, of course not.

00:18:54.000 I mean, look, they cut Andrew Yang's microphone off.

00:18:56.000 Remember that?

00:18:57.000 That was hilarious.

00:18:58.000 Also, you can't put Biden on a debate stage.

00:19:01.000 There's no way that he would be able to.

00:19:03.000 I mean, already, I'm trying to find the numbers right now, but a significant number of Democrats feel Biden is too old.

00:19:10.000 So yes, there's infighting the Republicans, but the Democrats don't want their most likely incumbent nominee right now.

00:19:18.000 I mean, this is not looking good for me, and I'm not a political consultant by any means.

00:19:25.000 RFK can only benefit.

00:19:27.000 Even if he doesn't end up being the Democratic nominee, why not just push forward?

00:19:31.000 So many moderates are looking at him like, hey, this guy's interesting.

00:19:35.000 The same way that there were moderates who didn't think of themselves as any particular party who ended up voting for Trump because they felt like he represented something, I think RFK in some way could win ground back for the Democrats.

00:19:47.000 Not every single one, but I think that he represents something the Democrats haven't had in a long time.

00:19:52.000 There's a lot of boomers I think that would appeal to him, or that he would appeal to, just because of the fact that he's a Kennedy.

00:20:00.000 Adrienne Curry made this great, or called him this great thing, and I picked it up from her, the son of Camelot.

00:20:07.000 There's a lot of people that are older, older Gen X and boomers that still harken back to that, you know, the Camelot era, the way that they looked at the Kennedys and all that stuff.

00:20:18.000 And a lot of the stuff that he's saying is the stuff that people that are fairly anti-government get into.

00:20:26.000 He's got a lot of influence, even in the Libertarian Party, which personally I don't understand it so much, other than his anti-war and anti...

00:20:36.000 pharmaceutical stance, or at least skepticism, but I do think that he would appeal to a significant

00:20:43.000 portion of the older Democrats. Yeah, he doesn't have the same progressive edge in some ways. I

00:20:47.000 mean, look at what's going on right now. He is spending all of his time in New Hampshire.

00:20:51.000 He's focused there. Where is Biden going to concentrate?

00:20:54.000 South Carolina.

00:20:55.000 The DCCC is already saying we want South Carolina to primary first and this is really upsetting New Hampshire's voters and they are saying you are going to give the state to Republicans.

00:21:05.000 Obviously they don't carry a lot of electoral votes.

00:21:07.000 On the other hand, they are traditionally the first in the nation.

00:21:10.000 So Kennedy saying I'm going to focus on you guys, you are the state that I will pay attention to shows an interest in keeping with some traditions and some balances of power that the Biden wing of the Democrat party is willing to abandon.

00:21:26.000 What if it is RFK?

00:21:27.000 I mean, you look, Biden can't campaign.

00:21:30.000 He can't travel around the country.

00:21:33.000 No.

00:21:33.000 I mean, the big news, which we'll get into in a second, is that he's got CPAP marks on his face now.

00:21:37.000 He's 80 years old.

00:21:38.000 Dude is unwell.

00:21:40.000 And we've known he's been he's got metal plates in his head.

00:21:42.000 He can't talk straight.

00:21:44.000 He can't travel around this country.

00:21:45.000 R.F.K.

00:21:46.000 Jr.

00:21:46.000 can.

00:21:46.000 What is he, 69 years old?

00:21:47.000 Yeah.

00:21:48.000 He's also fit.

00:21:49.000 Got that video of him, you know, doing the... He's lifting.

00:21:51.000 Benchpressing.

00:21:52.000 Benchpressing.

00:21:53.000 And, uh...

00:21:54.000 He's gonna be able to go around and get votes.

00:21:56.000 He's gonna be able to build his profile.

00:21:58.000 He does have a difficult time speaking, though, with all due respect, and that matters, but he's still gonna be able to get those ideas across.

00:22:05.000 He's still gonna be able to go on podcasts, do town halls.

00:22:08.000 Biden cannot.

00:22:09.000 How could Gavin Newsom beat someone like RFK Jr.?

00:22:12.000 True.

00:22:12.000 And I think even with, I'm not sure what to call it, maybe a speech impediment, You hear it once, you get used to it.

00:22:18.000 With Biden, he just doesn't have any actual cohesive thoughts.

00:22:24.000 It would be terrifying to put him on a debate stage.

00:22:28.000 He doesn't have a speech impediment.

00:22:29.000 The lights are literally out.

00:22:30.000 Whereas RFK Jr.

00:22:31.000 is a really smart guy.

00:22:33.000 Tucker last night came out and basically made the prediction on his Twitter show that it's going to be Gavin Newsom.

00:22:39.000 And as a Californian, that scares me to death.

00:22:43.000 Like, you think R.F.K.

00:22:45.000 Jr.

00:22:45.000 could be Gavin?

00:22:46.000 Yes.

00:22:47.000 Really?

00:22:48.000 Absolutely.

00:22:49.000 Okay, why?

00:22:50.000 Do you think the establishment would let that happen?

00:22:52.000 Well, no, no, no.

00:22:54.000 I'm saying, if you were to place Gavin... If the people got to decide.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, if you put Gavin to someone's stage with R.F.K.

00:22:58.000 Jr., R.F.K.

00:22:59.000 Jr.

00:22:59.000 wins, no question.

00:23:00.000 I totally agree with that.

00:23:00.000 Now, whether or not the establishment, the machine, the media would allow something like that to happen is an entirely different question.

00:23:06.000 But I think in terms of... I think Trump would have a hard time debating R.F.K.

00:23:09.000 Jr.

00:23:10.000 RFK Jr.

00:23:11.000 is doing a fantastic job.

00:23:12.000 He's got Trump supporters being like, we like this guy.

00:23:15.000 And people actually saying Trump RFK Jr., Trump Kennedy is the ticket.

00:23:19.000 Yeah, which would be legendary.

00:23:20.000 Yeah, I mean seriously.

00:23:22.000 Massive.

00:23:24.000 I mean RFK Jr.

00:23:26.000 would be great.

00:23:27.000 If Elon's right about it being the funniest outcome being the most likely, then bring it on.

00:23:33.000 Then Trump Kennedy.

00:23:34.000 Well, he got that Twitter Spaces where he had Kelly Slater on it, Tulsi Gabbard, like all of these people that sort of represent this anti-establishment wing that's not even tied to a political party, it's just a cultural sentiment happening.

00:23:46.000 So when you have the best surfer in the world that's getting on Twitter Spaces... Oh, like Kelly Slater?

00:23:49.000 Yeah, dude, he was invited to the Spaces.

00:23:51.000 And so, when you have the best surfer in the world, like, backing a political candidate, then Jack Dorsey comes out and offers that support, too.

00:23:57.000 So, it's a very interesting coalition he's building.

00:24:00.000 And, uh, it is interesting, though.

00:24:02.000 You go back to the libertarian side of him, on issues like pharmaceuticals.

00:24:05.000 He is pro-2A, at least he says.

00:24:07.000 But then he's hype- Not always.

00:24:08.000 Not always.

00:24:09.000 And there are old clips that are coming out now where he's like, okay, dude.

00:24:12.000 But on top of that, like, he's super big government on issues of environmentalism.

00:24:16.000 It's like, okay, so are you a Green New Deal president? 0.51

00:24:18.000 Because that's- Yeah, he probably is.

00:24:20.000 And there are a lot of people who are probably saying, yes, I want that.

00:24:24.000 There are probably a lot of Democrats who know that Biden can't win and absolutely would vote for RFK Jr., probably older ones.

00:24:31.000 The younger ones, they just believe whatever they hear in the media and it's laughably sad.

00:24:35.000 Not all of them, but a lot of them.

00:24:37.000 It is a kind of weird thing, right?

00:24:39.000 You find like older Democrats won't believe you when you tell them what the media says, and younger Democrats believe whatever the media says.

00:24:46.000 It's because they were raised on TV.

00:24:48.000 Their parents have been putting them in front of the TV.

00:24:49.000 They just trust it.

00:24:50.000 It's like having another adult in their lives.

00:24:53.000 I also think they have made it so distrusting the media is a right-wing thing, and so if it's trendy to be left-wing, you can't... you have to trust.

00:25:02.000 It's what you were saying.

00:25:03.000 If Joe Biden Hypothetically, he's in his bathroom and stumbles out of the shower to grab his dog's tail and then breaks his ankle. 0.86

00:25:13.000 If you report that in any way that's negative, they'll call you right-wing. 0.76

00:25:19.000 And by the way, shouldn't everybody be concerned about his age?

00:25:23.000 If he were to run again, he'd be 85 at the end of his next term.

00:25:26.000 There's no way he can run.

00:25:28.000 He's going to beat his own record as the nation's oldest president.

00:25:31.000 But we've long speculated that they will criminally charge Joe Biden.

00:25:36.000 He will get indicted and he will get arrested, maybe on the documents, maybe on the corruption.

00:25:40.000 And then they'll say, we're not biased.

00:25:42.000 We're going after Trump and Joe Biden, clearing the way for someone like Newsom.

00:25:47.000 538 has them at a 54.8% disapproval rating right now and a 4% approval.

00:25:53.000 Wow.

00:25:53.000 It's like historically bad.

00:25:54.000 It's like I think only only behind Carter.

00:25:57.000 Right.

00:25:57.000 I mean, it's awful, and it's been awful all the time, and he's not doing anything to make it better.

00:26:02.000 I mean, right now, he's on his tour about broadband internet, which is interesting and great, but you actually can't have him talk at all because, and this feels so disrespectful to say, but he is ill.

00:26:13.000 He is not okay.

00:26:14.000 He is not capable of being compelling to an audience.

00:26:17.000 Even with, which should be a slam dunk, this broadband tour, you know, he can't win support because the more he's in public, the more people become concerned.

00:26:26.000 I think that part of the reason, I think, I don't think that that's a compelling issue for the American people.

00:26:32.000 Like, I don't think, you really think the broad... Just because, especially after COVID, there were so many rural communities that struggled while everyone else, you just do things online and communities like, like I think of West Virginia and all the mountains, like you could not have school online because there is not, there are communities that don't have internet at home.

00:26:49.000 And it took us six months to get internet at both locations.

00:26:54.000 It's insane.

00:26:55.000 And it cost tens of thousands of dollars to get them to actually trench and then lay the lines down to the node or whatever.

00:27:01.000 It was nuts.

00:27:01.000 I'm not saying it's like the single biggest issue, but I do think it makes a difference, especially if you're a state that wants to develop business.

00:27:06.000 I mean, you might be able to speak to this more, but If you're trying to lure young people in, you're saying, oh, you can work remotely now.

00:27:13.000 Well, then you need guaranteed solid internet access.

00:27:15.000 So it's not enough to have affordable housing or people to buy land.

00:27:19.000 If you cannot work from home, then the idea that you would move to a rural state like West Virginia, Maine, Wyoming to a certain extent, you're stuck.

00:27:27.000 I feel like there are issues that are more motivating, that are more top of mind with people.

00:27:30.000 I'm not saying it's the only issue.

00:27:31.000 I'm just saying I think it does make a big difference, especially in the post-COVID era.

00:27:35.000 Because I feel like people now are still feeling pressure from inflation and I do think that one of the things that's most salient, most pressing on people's minds is the stuff with this year's Pride Month.

00:27:51.000 Yeah in June in particular.

00:27:52.000 Yeah again like I said I was I was out in California a couple weeks ago talking to my friends that are not you know super politically active and they are talking about the you know the things that are going on in schools and stuff that's going on at Target and that's something because it deals with kids and parents are laser focused on the thing that is going to most make them

00:28:17.000 anxious or concerned about their kids.

00:28:19.000 And I think that that kind of stuff is the stuff that if he were going to be able to

00:28:25.000 produce a compelling message that could help his his numbers, I feel like that's where

00:28:30.000 it would be.

00:28:31.000 And I don't think that he is in a in a place where I don't think the Democrats at all are

00:28:36.000 in a place where they could actually say, look, we do condemn these types of things.

00:28:41.000 And I think that that's probably one of the reasons why he's got such bad poll numbers.

00:28:45.000 I think, ladies and gentlemen, I think Joe Biden might maybe.

00:28:49.000 Not long for this world.

00:28:51.000 And it breaks my heart.

00:28:52.000 It breaks my heart.

00:28:54.000 Look, we know the guy's 80, and these photos have emerged showing strange markings on his face.

00:28:59.000 The guy's 80.

00:29:00.000 We know he's got health issues.

00:29:03.000 He's already passed the life expectancy for the average US male.

00:29:06.000 I think it's like 79 years old.

00:29:07.000 He's 80 now, I believe, right?

00:29:09.000 So these images pop up showing these marks on his face and of course everyone is concerned as to what this may be.

00:29:17.000 The media is reporting that he is now using a CPAP machine because he suffers from sleep apnea.

00:29:23.000 I believe they're lying.

00:29:25.000 I believe what's more likely is that he's an old man, he's probably on oxygen.

00:29:28.000 They're probably supplementing him, and they're probably using these bands as a way to obfuscate what's actually going on with his failing body.

00:29:39.000 They claimed that his gaffes, speech impediment.

00:29:43.000 He doesn't have one.

00:29:44.000 You listen to him talking in the 90s, he was speaking just fine.

00:29:48.000 Then they say, oh, but when he was younger, he did, and now that he's getting older, it's coming back.

00:29:52.000 No, he's just, he's getting older.

00:29:54.000 That's just it.

00:29:54.000 Sure, fine.

00:29:55.000 Call it whatever you want.

00:29:56.000 It's still because of age, right?

00:29:58.000 The argument they're making is, oh, he's getting older, so now it's coming back.

00:30:01.000 Well, yeah.

00:30:02.000 The point of making a comment about the stutter is because of his age. 0.99

00:30:06.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

00:30:07.000 But take a look at this. 0.96

00:30:07.000 I mean, he's got these markings on both sides of his face. 0.96

00:30:11.000 And, you know, look.

00:30:14.000 How long do those markings stay pressed into his face?

00:30:17.000 Did he wake up literally right before he went out for his flight?

00:30:22.000 Took off the mask and had the marks on his face?

00:30:24.000 The dude is unwell.

00:30:26.000 So in speaking about whether or not he can run in 2024, I don't think there's a question.

00:30:31.000 He can't.

00:30:32.000 No, he really can't.

00:30:33.000 Well, and I think your strongest case for the oxygen argument is that it almost looks like any moment he's not in front of people, he has to have something strapped to his face.

00:30:42.000 He's got IV marks on his hands at one point.

00:30:44.000 Yes, exactly.

00:30:44.000 And I'll stress this, they mention that, let me pull up the caption, his sleep apnea has been public knowledge since 2008.

00:30:52.000 And he wasn't using a CPAP machine?

00:30:55.000 Only now he is?

00:30:56.000 I don't buy it.

00:30:57.000 No.

00:30:57.000 No, also, people who have sleep apnea wear it while they're sleeping, from what I understand, not while they're just sitting at their desk in their office.

00:31:03.000 Yes.

00:31:03.000 Well, this is a picture from him in the morning about to get on some plane, but the question is, did he just wake up?

00:31:09.000 He's wearing a suit.

00:31:10.000 How long did it take him to put that suit on, and how long would those markings stay on your face?

00:31:16.000 I can't imagine they'd stand his face that long.

00:31:18.000 His suit actually goes on like the Iron Man suit.

00:31:21.000 You just stand him up and the stuff just gets thrown on him.

00:31:24.000 No, I mean, part of what's happening with Biden, I have always found it annoying that the mainstream media treats it like it's super normal, that he spends basically all of his weekends at one of his two private residences, and that the White House made this big shot of being like, we're so transparent, here are the White House visitor logs, but we don't know who goes to his house in Delaware.

00:31:45.000 You can make an argument, privacy, should he be allowed to, whatever, But it seemed clear to me, and again, this is my personal speculation, that he is receiving some kind of medical treatment when he goes home to Delaware on the weekends because he was always, I mean, even if he wasn't full-on sick, he's always been getting older.

00:32:01.000 I mean, he was the oldest person elected president, and this has only continued to be true as he has aged.

00:32:07.000 It seems like maybe things are getting worse.

00:32:09.000 It's hard to tell, but it feels to me like we're getting more and more gaps.

00:32:13.000 Now we're seeing these markings.

00:32:15.000 It's only a matter of time.

00:32:17.000 It's a good thing.

00:32:17.000 I mean, it's a good bet.

00:32:19.000 It's a good bet.

00:32:19.000 And for me, I kept saying, when is he going to announce that he's running for re-election?

00:32:24.000 Because his press secretary seemed to be hesitant, even when he was saying, yes, I will run.

00:32:29.000 And I think that should tell you that the people around him don't think he should continue forward, even if he himself feels like there's no problem.

00:32:37.000 And maybe he's not in a position to make that call.

00:32:40.000 No, I don't think he is.

00:32:41.000 Here was the other story from around the same time.

00:32:44.000 They say, uh, President 80 says Putin is clearly losing the war in Iraq while clutching notes on Wagner uprising and yet another blunder.

00:32:52.000 Yet another blunder.

00:32:54.000 And look, in this story, you can see the marks on his face.

00:32:57.000 Cheat sheet.

00:32:59.000 This dude can't handle it, man.

00:33:01.000 He never could handle it.

00:33:04.000 No, and at this point too, it's, it's really frustrating because I remember when they used to say Trump goes to Mar-a-Lago too much, or golfs too much, I should say, and they criticized DeSantis for being on potentially ozempic, and RFK Jr.

00:33:20.000 is on testosterone, and so all the things that we should all be talking about with Biden, he gets a free pass.

00:33:25.000 He gets a free pass to potentially be using drugs that keep him awake at day.

00:33:29.000 He gets a free pass to not medically disclose to us what he's actually doing that's keeping him alive and somewhat sentient.

00:33:35.000 He doesn't get criticized for going to Delaware every seeming weekend.

00:33:39.000 He vacations more than any president we've had in the last 40 years.

00:33:43.000 And he gets a free pass for all of it.

00:33:44.000 So it's really frustrating because it just feels like we're all ignoring this massive elephant in the room.

00:33:47.000 We're not, obviously, but a lot of the country is.

00:33:50.000 And my greatest fear that would cause me to really be disappointed in our country and its current state would be that if he actually does run again and were to somehow get re-elected, I think it would be a massive indictment of our country.

00:34:02.000 I'm in agreement with you, but my biggest problem is the fact that the American people I think are generally aware of Biden's problems, at least people that actually are politically aware that pay attention enough to vote and stuff, and they accept The obvious fact that it is not the president that's making the calls.

00:34:28.000 That means it is someone else or it is a group of people.

00:34:32.000 It's probably his advisors that get together and make a decision and tell him, well, Mr. President, we're going to do this because blah, blah, blah.

00:34:41.000 And the fact that the American people are comfortable with that, to me, is a problem.

00:34:46.000 We've gotten so comfortable with the bureaucratic state that we just don't even expect the president to lead anymore.

00:34:51.000 And one of the biggest problems is that you don't ever have anyone that's accountable when the situation's like this.

00:34:57.000 If there's multiple bureaucrats that are making decisions at the end of the day, really the ones making the decisions, they will never ever pay for any bad decisions. 0.98

00:35:07.000 They will stay in office.

00:35:09.000 A lot of the people that are still in the Biden administration are people that were in the administration of George Bush when we went into Iraq.

00:35:17.000 A lot of the same players are still in Washington, D.C., in the quote-unquote deep state.

00:35:23.000 So you're not going to get any kind of significant change until you address that problem.

00:35:29.000 Yeah, well, I think it's another sign of that is that there used to be a day in geopolitical environments when, like, if you had a president that had a gaffe like this about major geopolitical actors, like, the world would stand on notice because, oh my gosh, the president of the free world just said something about another political leader related to war.

00:35:47.000 Like, everybody used to really pay attention and care.

00:35:49.000 And now it's like even the other foreign leaders are like, oh, it's another Tuesday with a gaffe.

00:35:53.000 And he could call for war and no one would even really take him seriously.

00:35:55.000 We brought this up when he was talking about Syria, but kept saying Libya.

00:35:59.000 Yeah, exactly. And he kept saying Libya over and over again.

00:36:02.000 And the media, of course, downplayed saying, oh, it's no big deal. It is a big deal if he goes

00:36:06.000 to his generals and says, I want to see some territorial gains in Libya and they go, you got it.

00:36:11.000 Next thing you know, it's like, why is there no fly zone in Libya? It's like, well, Biden made a

00:36:15.000 mistake. So what are the generals supposed to do? Defy his orders? This is the conundrum.

00:36:21.000 Yes, we know he's not well in the mind, and he said the wrong word.

00:36:25.000 I think the average person can assume he did not mean Libya.

00:36:29.000 is what if he did?

00:36:29.000 Yeah.

00:36:31.000 Are the generals gonna be like, sir are you sure?

00:36:34.000 And he's like, yeah, of course, come on man, you know what I'm talking about.

00:36:36.000 Like, okay.

00:36:37.000 Or do they just say, no, he's incapacitated, so we're gonna defy his orders and ignore him.

00:36:42.000 Well, that goes back to your point.

00:36:43.000 It's like, I don't even know who's in charge of the generals at this point.

00:36:45.000 How do they make decisions?

00:36:46.000 You really think they ask him for military strategy?

00:36:49.000 Who knows?

00:36:50.000 Like, no way.

00:36:51.000 I think it was Andy Card, I think is his chief of staff I'm not sure the chief of staff, but it may be just a name that I'm remembering.

00:36:58.000 But I'm sure that it's not Joe Biden.

00:37:01.000 It's a council or... I'm not one of the guys that thinks that Barack Obama's running stuff from behind the scenes.

00:37:08.000 There are people that make those kind of remarks.

00:37:09.000 I don't think that's the situation.

00:37:11.000 I think it's just people that are high up in the administration that are the bureaucratic... I think it's Joe Biden.

00:37:18.000 And I think Afghanistan is proof. 0.97

00:37:20.000 You think it's him?

00:37:21.000 You think he's making... Look at Afghanistan. 0.99

00:37:23.000 Any sane person who sat down... You could take your average, middle-aged, overweight American dad, sit him down in the Situation Room and say, here's Afghanistan.

00:37:38.000 We want to get out, and that person would do a better job.

00:37:41.000 That's true.

00:37:41.000 That's a good point.

00:37:42.000 So I wonder if, like, abandoning Bagram Air Force Base, not notifying the Afghan security forces, everything they did, every error, it was insane how bad, it was pure chaos.

00:37:56.000 So it could be that there is no leadership at all, so people were doing random things, but considering that the U.S.

00:38:02.000 abandoned, that we, the U.S., abandoned the Bagram Air Force Base, I kind of feel like that was a leadership call from someone who is not right in the head, Joe Biden.

00:38:12.000 And we got we got to get our troops out of there, you know, not not September.

00:38:16.000 We're going to get it out of there.

00:38:17.000 Like, OK, well, where should we get them out of there?

00:38:19.000 Just get them out.

00:38:19.000 Get them out of Air Force Base.

00:38:20.000 Get them out.

00:38:21.000 OK.

00:38:22.000 OK.

00:38:22.000 Withdraw them by the anniversary of September 11.

00:38:24.000 Right.

00:38:24.000 He made it in an emotional place instead of following a tactical argument.

00:38:29.000 I would be shocked if he if he was that That hands-on with how the withdrawal was done.

00:38:37.000 How do you explain it?

00:38:39.000 I don't have a better explanation, but I would be very surprised if President Joe Biden was that hands-on about how to carry out the withdrawal.

00:38:50.000 Because the, you know, I too agree that it was ridiculous to have the, you know, the combat troops come out before the civilians.

00:38:58.000 Absolutely.

00:38:59.000 And abandoning the Air Force!

00:39:00.000 Yes!

00:39:01.000 And leaving all of our gear.

00:39:02.000 Where you could get them out!

00:39:03.000 Fly them out of the Air Force Base!

00:39:05.000 I am as flabbergasted as you guys are that that was the actual process that actually happened.

00:39:13.000 I just would be really surprised if Joe Biden was that granular about commanding.

00:39:18.000 But that's the point, he wasn't!

00:39:20.000 He's like, hey, we're going to get our troops out of there.

00:39:21.000 And it's like, well, look, Mr. President, we've got an Air Force base.

00:39:24.000 We can't just get them out of the Air Force base then.

00:39:26.000 Are you sure?

00:39:27.000 Like, oh, whatever you say, sir.

00:39:27.000 Yeah.

00:39:29.000 And I always wonder if the generals that receive those orders are also as incompetent or nefarious.

00:39:34.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:39:34.000 Look at Millie. 0.87

00:39:35.000 Exactly.

00:39:36.000 That's where it's like, I don't, I wonder if it's literally just a comedy of errors across the entire leadership of the U.S.

00:39:41.000 government. 0.99

00:39:42.000 Our intelligence sucks. 0.97

00:39:43.000 If you were naive enough to believe that Afghani officials and forces there could hold that region, and then it fell in no matter of days, like, how do you get things that wrong across an entire organization as large and profound as the U.S. 0.98

00:39:57.000 military?

00:39:59.000 It's a comedy of errors.

00:40:00.000 And I always struggle with, how much do you attribute to malicious intent versus incompetence?

00:40:06.000 That is always a tough thing for me.

00:40:07.000 Sometimes it's both.

00:40:09.000 Yeah, I think in this case it was, and I think in most things happening in our government right now, there's a small faction of people that are genuinely evil, and then the rest of the people in the nuthouse are just pure incompetence at the highest degree.

00:40:20.000 It's the Pete Buttigiegs that have no ability or resume to lead transportation.

00:40:26.000 Mayor of a nothing town in Indiana, don't get me wrong, South Bend's fine, but like, what?

00:40:30.000 Do you even have public transportation?

00:40:32.000 And you're leading this.

00:40:34.000 Our whole government in the bureaucratic state at this point is this massive hodgepodge collaboration

00:40:40.000 between malicious intent, evil actors, and incompetence at the highest level.

00:40:45.000 And ultimately, I think that's why anybody that's even remotely normal and is able to

00:40:50.000 present any sort of sense of leadership is rising to the top of the cultural conversation.

00:40:55.000 Let's jump to the cultural conversation.

00:40:57.000 We got this story from CBS News.

00:40:59.000 Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says financial assistance is being sent to wholesalers, beer distributors impacted by boycott backlash.

00:41:09.000 Let me provide an alternate context for what this information is.

00:41:12.000 First, we'll take the neutral approach.

00:41:14.000 The Anheuser CEO states that they are giving money to people who carry their beer.

00:41:18.000 Let me make it a little bit more hyperbolic for you.

00:41:21.000 The boycott was so effective that Bud Light now has to pay people to carry its beer!

00:41:28.000 Let's ask this question.

00:41:29.000 Why would Anheuser-Busch send financial assistance to wholesalers and distributors?

00:41:35.000 These distributors could simply just, I don't know, carry different beers, like shift their business, reduce their workforce, say we're going to get off Bud Light.

00:41:45.000 No.

00:41:46.000 This is Enezer Bush saying, we're going to pay you to keep operating at this level Because we're going to try and pull out of this one.

00:41:54.000 Otherwise, the wholesalers say, see you later.

00:41:57.000 The boycott has gotten so bad that they are now paying people to carry their beer.

00:42:03.000 Good job.

00:42:04.000 Yeah, it's incredible to watch actually.

00:42:06.000 And on our app, the day after Bud Light, that ad campaign was released with Dylan Mulvaney,

00:42:11.000 we saw an 800% increase in searches for beer on the platform.

00:42:14.000 Because people are tired of it.

00:42:15.000 They're actually looking for other options.

00:42:16.000 Now, Modelo is the top beer above Bud Light.

00:42:19.000 And it was funny because some of the media tried to paint it as like, well, that's because

00:42:22.000 people are done with domestic beer.

00:42:24.000 That's why.

00:42:25.000 That's why Bud Light's tanked.

00:42:26.000 And it's like, dude, all these other domestic beers have actually risen in value.

00:42:29.000 This one's tanking.

00:42:30.000 Miller & Coors are skyrocketing.

00:42:31.000 Exactly.

00:42:32.000 And so what's interesting in all this is that we don't think much about how the actions

00:42:36.000 of that man and the CEO of Anheuser-Busch, if you can't see the screen, and his cronies

00:42:42.000 and the ad campaign agency out of San Francisco, how much that actually negatively impacted

00:42:47.000 the people caught in the crossfire of all of this, which is like the distributors, the

00:42:51.000 middlemen, the salespeople.

00:42:53.000 They absolutely got screwed because you cannot sell this beer anymore.

00:42:56.000 Have you ever seen The Dark Knight?

00:42:58.000 Oh yeah, good one.

00:42:59.000 You guys have seen that one, right?

00:43:00.000 Absolutely.

00:43:00.000 I love the fan theory that the Joker's actually the good guy.

00:43:04.000 And the reason is, by the end of the movie, he's gotten rid of a dangerous vigilante, Batman.

00:43:08.000 Batman retires.

00:43:10.000 He's gotten rid of the mob and all the criminals.

00:43:13.000 What the Joker did throughout that movie destroyed the organized crime in the city and destroyed the vigilante fighting it.

00:43:22.000 It's crazy.

00:43:23.000 And then in the next movie, it's like he's been retired for a couple decades.

00:43:26.000 I bring this up because what if?

00:43:27.000 This Anheuser-Busch CEO is actually just that.

00:43:31.000 He looks like the bad guy, but deep down he was sitting at his office and he was looking at all the ESG and woke stuff and he's like, the only way this changes is if someone pushes it over the top.

00:43:41.000 And then a single tear rolls down his cheek and he's like, I will do the right thing.

00:43:45.000 And then he gets on his phone and he's like, Dylan Mulvaney, and he's like, we've got a job to do.

00:43:52.000 Because in this interview, apparently, the Anheuser-Busch CEO has not ruled out hiring Dylan Mulvaney in the future.

00:43:58.000 Yeah, it's absurd.

00:43:59.000 And has doubled down on pride, and has said they will continue and they have always been big supporters of this stuff.

00:44:06.000 When your customers tell you, we won't buy your stock, we won't buy your beer, and we will advocate for everyone not to buy your beer, to the point where you have to pay wholesalers and distributors money to keep up their operations?

00:44:18.000 You'd think at that point you'd be like, we're gonna listen to our customers and get away from this stuff.

00:44:21.000 We're sorry.

00:44:22.000 He won't do it.

00:44:23.000 No, Whitworth kind of threw the guilt card.

00:44:24.000 He's like, I'm really sad because it really impacts the employees who've been working.

00:44:28.000 They have pride in this, you know, 165 year old company that's been around forever.

00:44:32.000 Like, he is trying to say people boycotting this beer are the ones hurting these people who work in their, you know, breweries or whatever.

00:44:40.000 And it's like, you made this call.

00:44:42.000 You're not taking any personal responsibility.

00:44:44.000 In fact, you seem to be willing to risk their jobs again.

00:44:48.000 It's crazy.

00:44:49.000 Well, yeah, his doubling down is a controlled demolition.

00:44:52.000 Like if he actually feels bad for his employees, he has single handedly caused that problem.

00:44:56.000 By the way, like I run a company, you run a company.

00:44:59.000 If something bad happens in the company, it ultimately at the end of the day is is your fault because we take responsibility for the company because the buck stops with us.

00:45:07.000 This has been the exact opposite. Blaming your consumers for pain that's been put on

00:45:12.000 your employees rather than taking responsibility is like the most low life thing that I've ever

00:45:16.000 seen a company executive do. The Target CEO is doing the same thing right now.

00:45:19.000 And now for you to paper over it with this house of cards sham organization you've created

00:45:25.000 by having to literally do a rebate program and pay people to buy the beer,

00:45:29.000 just propping up the house of cards further. I have never seen anything like it.

00:45:33.000 Plus, to your theory, he was former CIA and they specialize in regime change.

00:45:37.000 What about Public Square?

00:45:38.000 If he is trying to topple the woke regime, maybe that is his ultimate goal, because it

00:45:43.000 across the board has decimated these woke companies.

00:45:46.000 $50 billion of market cap dropped just between Anheuser-Busch, Disney, and Target alone in

00:45:53.000 the past two months.

00:45:54.000 So I have never seen a more suicidal campaign from a company than doubling down on this.

00:46:00.000 What about Public Square?

00:46:01.000 What are you guys seeing?

00:46:02.000 The opposite?

00:46:03.000 Yeah, that $50 billion has to go somewhere.

00:46:05.000 That's the interesting thing, is that these boycotts are only effective if you can ultimately shift your lifestyle spending away to something else, which is why we exist.

00:46:13.000 So we created the app so that if you're tired of Bud Light, if you're tired of Target, you can actually go to something else.

00:46:18.000 So that's why when Bud Light toppled, $27 billion of market cap dropped.

00:46:24.000 We saw an 800% increase in beer.

00:46:25.000 When Target came out and did what they did, we released a Target shopping guide that actually drove our app to top 5 apps in the entire app store for a week across all genres.

00:46:33.000 So anytime one of these cultural mediums for commerce decides to be insane, we're trying to be there to clean up the mess and provide an alternative so that you can actually shift your spending away.

00:46:43.000 And what's happened is we've had some people that said, you know, I said that I was not going to go to Target for June.

00:46:50.000 But I just couldn't imagine getting Target away from my life in its entirety.

00:46:53.000 And now they're saying, I'm actually finding my toilet paper, paper towels, household cleaning products on Public Square.

00:46:59.000 I don't even need to do this anymore.

00:47:00.000 And we have people asking us, can you open retail stores?

00:47:03.000 Can we have this literally be a replacement from Target?

00:47:05.000 So that's where we're going.

00:47:07.000 But I think the success of Public Square is a sign of two things.

00:47:12.000 One is that the boycotts are working and that people are tired of woke capital.

00:47:15.000 That's number one.

00:47:17.000 Number two is that people are actually hopeful enough to go the extra mile to do something different, because the worst indictment of our country and the economic state currently would be that if people either just kept shopping at these companies even though they hated them, and these companies obviously hate us in return, or the other thing which is that these people basically, you know, boycott for a week and then lay off because we don't have any other options.

00:47:39.000 Neither of those things are happening.

00:47:40.000 People are actually shifting their spending away and this is actually working, which is pretty incredible to watch.

00:47:44.000 I think Bud Light This is why I made the joke about this guy being the secret hero, because what Bud Light did was shattered the dam.

00:47:53.000 The cracks were forming, and then the CEO of Bud Light just took a sledgehammer to that thing, and the floodgates have erupted.

00:48:00.000 And what happens is, for the longest time, regular people are scared.

00:48:04.000 If they speak out, they will get cancelled.

00:48:07.000 They live in fear of this, especially younger people.

00:48:10.000 Then people notice that Bud Light is tanking, and they think to themselves, whoa, If I say something, it's actually popular.

00:48:18.000 Now people aren't scared anymore.

00:48:20.000 Now they feel good.

00:48:21.000 Now it feels good to go shop somewhere else.

00:48:23.000 Now you post a video about how you're not going to Target.

00:48:27.000 You get a million views.

00:48:28.000 So there's even opportunists here who are going to jump on board.

00:48:31.000 This is where I think the tide shifts because the wokeness is falling into the lame cultural space where it is becoming negative.

00:48:45.000 It's not interesting.

00:48:46.000 What is kind of interesting is if you look at punk rock stuff, These guys were dressing in very, very weird ways that were supposed to be shocking to the average person.

00:48:56.000 You had, I think it was, correct me if I'm wrong, Sid Vicious wore the swastika.

00:49:00.000 The idea was to offend people.

00:49:02.000 To be like, I'm not a part of your thing.

00:49:03.000 Then all of a sudden, punk became cool.

00:49:05.000 And it became mainstream.

00:49:07.000 And it became multi-billion dollars.

00:49:09.000 How things kind of go.

00:49:10.000 Underground has totally disappeared, like the actual underground has completely and totally disappeared in the world of the internet.

00:49:17.000 Because part of the underground used to be you had to physically go to places to find this music.

00:49:24.000 You had to go to certain record stores, you had to go to certain places to buy certain magazines, you had to go to shows that were at certain locations.

00:49:32.000 It wasn't presented to you and it wasn't given to you.

00:49:35.000 So you had to put effort into...

00:49:37.000 For a period, you get this rebellious, anti-woke subculture pushing back on the corporations, on Disney, on Bud Light.

00:49:41.000 And so here's what I think.

00:49:43.000 For a period, you get this rebellious, anti-woke subculture pushing back on the corporations, on Disney, on Bud Light.

00:49:52.000 Bud Light, the number one brand.

00:49:54.000 Like all trends in counterculture, they start to become more and more dominant. 0.72

00:50:00.000 Because people who are passionate about these things, believe in them, don't give them up.

00:50:03.000 And the average person just doesn't care.

00:50:06.000 So what happens now?

00:50:07.000 Bud Light went from number one to number two.

00:50:11.000 Modelo is now number one.

00:50:13.000 And to be honest, Bud Light was always kind of a number one.

00:50:16.000 Haha, it's very funny.

00:50:16.000 I'm very funny.

00:50:17.000 And now it's just crap. 0.98

00:50:19.000 It always was. 0.98

00:50:20.000 But this shows that regular people, this counterculture is now becoming more and more dominant and moving into the mainstream space.

00:50:29.000 My prediction is in a few years, This we win.

00:50:33.000 Yeah, you know, I don't know that means politically.

00:50:36.000 Well, I think obviously I think on the political ramifications like if you want to know how decisions are made in society look at where the money goes and so if you can shift the profit structures of society back toward the values of everyday actual normal people.

00:50:47.000 I think we win even politically.

00:50:49.000 But people ask me often, like, do you think Bud Light can redeem themselves at this point?

00:50:54.000 And I think the clear answer is no, because they've become the butt of a cultural joke.

00:50:58.000 Like I saw somebody tweet recently and it went super viral, the biggest insult of 2023

00:51:02.000 is you look like someone who would drink Bud Light at Target. 0.98

00:51:05.000 And I'm like, that's, you're now screwed.

00:51:08.000 You see all these funny videos going around of people buying a Bud Light and it totally alters their personality.

00:51:13.000 It's like you can't come back from that.

00:51:15.000 And I think that what's really exciting about that is people are waking up to have a general sort of... We talked about this earlier.

00:51:21.000 There's an anti-establishment sense.

00:51:23.000 in society at the moment that I really embrace.

00:51:25.000 I think it's wonderful.

00:51:27.000 That should also carry into small businesses.

00:51:28.000 So instead of going to Bud Light, why don't you go to a local brewer that's making awesome local craft beer.

00:51:33.000 A lot of this is actually super affordable.

00:51:35.000 They don't hate you.

00:51:36.000 They're not going to lecture you about gender. 1.00

00:51:38.000 And it is that simple.

00:51:39.000 If you can do that for all these different industries, like on Public Square, 90% of our businesses are small businesses.

00:51:44.000 And it's great because those are the ones that are not going to lecture you about stuff.

00:51:47.000 They're not bought into an ESG agenda or DEI agenda.

00:51:50.000 and they're actually shifting society back to like normal people's values.

00:51:53.000 People all the time ask like, are you political?

00:51:55.000 I'm not political. I'm like a normal person from 2006.

00:51:59.000 And it's just the country left us.

00:52:00.000 Somehow you've ended up here.

00:52:01.000 Exactly. And so when commerce has become so politicized, and we're just trying to offer this solution that is not

00:52:07.000 going to tell you about gender while you're trying to buy pants for your kids, like it's 0.93

00:52:11.000 kind of a refreshing thing for people.

00:52:13.000 So you're seeing normal people wake up, and you talked earlier about how the social issues of gender are becoming such a hot-button political topic for the mama bears.

00:52:21.000 70% of American consumers are moms.

00:52:23.000 So if you get that audience pissed at your brand and ready for an alternative, that's our number one demographic on the app.

00:52:29.000 It's 70% moms because If you have the mama bears mobilize to a product they believe in, they're going to tell other friends. 0.91

00:52:35.000 They're the best evangelists for things.

00:52:37.000 An alternative is true.

00:52:38.000 If they hate your brand, if you become the target in their eyes, they're going to tank you.

00:52:41.000 Well, that's why influencer marketing initially started with like mommy bloggers, right?

00:52:45.000 Who were on the internet and being like, here's my life.

00:52:47.000 And people were like, what products do you use?

00:52:48.000 Tell me everything you do, because I am looking for your recommendation.

00:52:51.000 I think that is an army that Bud Light did not think.

00:52:54.000 Maybe they should have courted the moms. 1.00

00:52:56.000 Instead of Dylan Mulvaney, they should have been like... Well, they were trying.

00:52:59.000 They did that commercial with that actor and his wife and it's like the woman is sitting on the couch and she's on hold and then Miles, what's his face, the actor, grabs two beers and cracks them open and dances over.

00:53:10.000 But that was like couples.

00:53:11.000 They didn't chase the moms. 1.00

00:53:12.000 That was specifically targeting women. 0.99

00:53:15.000 That was covered in the ad marketing news as, this is how they'll get women. 1.00

00:53:20.000 Because typically Bud Light was like, It wasn't effective.

00:53:24.000 What I'm saying is they should have gone harder in the, we're chasing moms.

00:53:27.000 Like they should have been replacing all of the stereotypes of like a wine mom. 0.73

00:53:30.000 They should have been like, you're a Bud Light mom. 0.92

00:53:32.000 My point is, they tried that ad.

00:53:35.000 It probably didn't work.

00:53:36.000 So they went, Dylan Mulvaney?

00:53:38.000 Yeah.

00:53:39.000 Market to kids?

00:53:41.000 I guess?

00:53:44.000 Bud Light wasn't exactly or isn't exactly a great tasting thing.

00:53:50.000 I don't think they really could have won moms.

00:53:52.000 I think that's a fallacy.

00:53:53.000 But I think it's important to note that women control spending in most households. 1.00

00:53:58.000 That shouldn't be a surprise to people.

00:54:00.000 I mean, that's been the standard for as long as I can remember.

00:54:03.000 When I was a kid, I heard stories that women can do most of the grocery shopping 1.00

00:54:08.000 and purchasing for the household, because they run the household.

00:54:11.000 They also typically control most of the philanthropic giving,

00:54:14.000 too, so any charities decided by women. 0.99

00:54:15.000 So this is this strange paradox where women are constantly being told, men are oppressing you.

00:54:23.000 But really, they have all this power.

00:54:25.000 They control basically American spending and they don't acknowledge it.

00:54:28.000 That's been a lie for a long, long, long time.

00:54:30.000 But they don't acknowledge it and that's what bothers me.

00:54:32.000 That's because it's not convenient.

00:54:34.000 True.

00:54:35.000 I mean, like, if you're in a position where, like, you know, everyone's telling you that you're oppressed and you're the second-class gender and yet you're still bossing your husband around, are you going to make a whole lot of noise about, no, we don't need extra benefits from the government and blah blah blah?

00:54:52.000 No, you're going to just shut your mouth and you're going to go ahead and say it's fine.

00:54:55.000 I was gonna jump to another story if you wanted to wrap it up.

00:54:58.000 Oh, I was gonna say, Ali Wong has this bit where she says, like, feminists ruins everything by saying, we can do anything! 1.00

00:55:04.000 It's like, stop talking, don't tell them!

00:55:08.000 We gotta jump to this story, this is from last night.

00:55:11.000 Post Millennial says, NBC News defends We're Coming For Your Children chant at NYC Drag March, arguing it's been used for years at Pride events.

00:55:20.000 But it's more than that.

00:55:22.000 They tweeted, The coming for your children chant has been used for years at pride events according to longtime march attendees and gay rights activists who said it's one of the many provocative expressions used to regain control of slurs against LGBTQ people.

00:55:37.000 Here's the funny thing.

00:55:40.000 The NBC News article says, in the 21-second clip circulated by a right-wing web streamer channel... Is that you?

00:55:47.000 That's us, by the way.

00:55:48.000 Oh, hey!

00:55:49.000 That's Tim Guest News.

00:55:50.000 Former voiceover.

00:55:51.000 Newsguard certified, by the way.

00:55:54.000 It says, dozens of people in the streets can be heard chanting, we're here, we're queer, we're not going shopping.

00:55:58.000 But one voice that is louder than the crowd, it's not clear whose, or whether the speaker was a member of the LGBTQ community, is heard saying at least twice, we're here, we're coming for your children.

00:56:09.000 First of all, in the video, you can hear they're all chanting it.

00:56:11.000 And you can see their mouths!

00:56:13.000 You can see multiple people saying this thing.

00:56:16.000 Now, here's my point.

00:56:16.000 Also, notice they didn't add the clip.

00:56:18.000 They did.

00:56:19.000 They're linking it, but they didn't present it in this article.

00:56:21.000 My point is this.

00:56:22.000 Why are they simultaneously arguing?

00:56:24.000 It's a totally normal chant they always have done.

00:56:27.000 And also, nobody did it.

00:56:29.000 It's one weird person.

00:56:30.000 We don't know who that person is.

00:56:32.000 Which is it?

00:56:32.000 Pick one.

00:56:33.000 Now, here's the good part.

00:56:35.000 Schuon had tracked down one of the sources.

00:56:39.000 Pointing out that NBC News said, a leaderless group of activists with the Radical Fairies, a loose-knit LGBTQ collective, and the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, a charity and protest group, have helped organize the march in more recent years, according to Huffington Post.

00:56:54.000 There are no sponsorships by companies at the drag march.

00:56:57.000 To just clarify, NBC News is reporting, a leaderless group of activists with the Radical Fairies helped organize this march where they chanted, we're coming for your children.

00:57:06.000 Okay.

00:57:08.000 Thank you, Shuan Head, for this one.

00:57:10.000 Henry Hey Jr.

00:57:13.000 was an American gay rights activist, NAMBLA activist, communist, labor advocate, co-founder of the Mattachine Society, as well as the Radical Fairies.

00:57:24.000 So it was an outright Nambla activist.

00:57:28.000 What is that, North American Man-Boy Love Association?

00:57:30.000 That is the North American Man-Boy Love Association.

00:57:33.000 So it was a communist pedophile who founded this organization that now goes on to help organize a march in which they're chanting, we're coming for your children.

00:57:41.000 And NBC News says, nothing to see here, folks!

00:57:45.000 Shout out, by the way, to Elad Eliyahu, reporting for TimCast News on the ground, who caught this video.

00:57:50.000 And I want to stress this.

00:57:51.000 When Elad tweeted this video out, we didn't think that much of it.

00:57:55.000 We're just like, here they go again, chanting this thing. 0.96

00:57:57.000 He's crazy, people.

00:57:58.000 And then it went crazy viral, and it's gone this far. 0.62

00:58:01.000 But shout out to Shoe and Head for pulling this information up.

00:58:04.000 This is why you should follow at TimCastNews on Twitter, because you'd see a lot of stuff first.

00:58:08.000 Let's go.

00:58:09.000 Which, by the way, the headline's so interesting.

00:58:13.000 It's not that big of a deal because we've been doing it for years.

00:58:15.000 Does that make it better?

00:58:17.000 Wait, that doesn't make it better!

00:58:19.000 That makes it worse!

00:58:20.000 That thing you're scared about?

00:58:21.000 We've been doing it for longer than you realize!

00:58:23.000 They've been writing books about it since, I mean...

00:58:26.000 Eros and Civilization by Herbert Marcuse came out in like the 60s or something like that.

00:58:30.000 These arguments for intergenerational relationships have been made by queer theorists for the better part of 50 years.

00:58:38.000 This is a normal leftist perspective, if you're a leftist philosopher or scholar or whatever.

00:58:48.000 That is normal to hear.

00:58:50.000 People are going to feel more comfortable as LGBT issues become more topical.

00:58:58.000 People in academia are going to feel more comfortable making the argument that there is no such thing as innocence.

00:59:06.000 That there is no reason to prevent children from seeing sexual activity, being sexually active themselves.

00:59:15.000 These are not arguments that I'm making.

00:59:16.000 These are arguments that are made by people like Michelle Foucault, Herbert Mark Hughes, and people that are cutting edge in the field of queer theory.

00:59:27.000 And communists.

00:59:29.000 They're all Marxists, they're all leftists, they're all communists.

00:59:35.000 But when they organize an event, we should think nothing of it.

00:59:37.000 It's fine.

00:59:38.000 Don't question this.

00:59:41.000 I think different things than what you're saying.

00:59:44.000 That's why this article is so weird.

00:59:46.000 Tim is totally right.

00:59:48.000 They're saying we do this all the time and also it's not a big deal.

00:59:51.000 And also that person is not a part of our group and we don't even believe it's real anyway.

00:59:54.000 This is not a bad thing.

00:59:56.000 Right now this is a resource.

00:59:57.000 If you look on Twitter, the actual tweet that NBC made has a community notes thing on it

01:00:06.000 and stuff.

01:00:07.000 So that is a good thing and it should be used by everybody that wants to fight the left

01:00:11.000 and the literal attack on children because what we're talking about is their admission

01:00:18.000 that they want to target children.

01:00:21.000 The specific reason is because they want to interrupt the way that adults raise their

01:00:26.000 children because grownups raise children that are well adjusted and happy are not revolutionary.

01:00:33.000 They don't end up in queer lifestyles, generally.

01:00:36.000 They just don't end up in, you know, doing a lot of drugs and out on the street.

01:00:41.000 And the left wants people in those conditions because unhappy people are revolutionaries.

01:00:48.000 Happy, satisfied people are not revolutionaries.

01:00:51.000 And the left is full of actual communist revolutionaries.

01:00:56.000 So your kids are their target.

01:00:59.000 And that is not an exaggeration.

01:01:01.000 They want to raise your kids to be revolutionaries.

01:01:05.000 They want to raise your kids to hate you.

01:01:08.000 That is a true statement.

01:01:11.000 Sorry.

01:01:12.000 Don't let your kids be on TikTok.

01:01:14.000 No, for real.

01:01:15.000 Like, the Vivek Ramaswamy right now saying kids under 16 should not be allowed on any of these social apps, like, I think it's one of the best political positions I've heard in a long time.

01:01:22.000 Because if you, I'm fully convinced, if kids did not have TikTok at 14 and did not, I don't know what you're allowed to say on YouTube, but corn, if they didn't have corn or they didn't, uh, watch TikTok, like, I'm convinced the trans thing wouldn't even exist. 0.97

01:01:37.000 It's this weird fetish culture Paired with these TikTok algorithms that are just prolonging it, and that is why we have the trans movement.

01:01:46.000 Well, you have children.

01:01:47.000 I want people who have kids to imagine this, right?

01:01:51.000 I shouldn't even say that.

01:01:52.000 Anybody, just imagine this.

01:01:54.000 You have a 12-year-old.

01:01:56.000 They go outside, and they're walking around by themselves.

01:02:01.000 And let's say they're riding their bike.

01:02:02.000 They ride their bike a few miles, and they come across an old warehouse. 0.97

01:02:05.000 It's a sex club. 0.98

01:02:07.000 They go inside, by themselves. 0.99

01:02:09.000 And there's a bunch of people engaged in lewd and lascivious behaviors.

01:02:12.000 And they all start talking to the kid and inviting the kid over to partake.

01:02:16.000 That's the internet.

01:02:17.000 The internet, with your kids on the internet, is you being like, have fun, good luck. 0.83

01:02:23.000 And your kids could stumble across these sex clubs.

01:02:27.000 And they're going to see these things and watch it and have groomers groom them. 1.00

01:02:31.000 And we've heard this from many individuals.

01:02:33.000 In fact, what you're referring to, We actually had a couple of detransitioners explain to us that they're going on places like Tumblr and they'll get people saying like, hey, why don't you try wearing some boys clothes and see how you feel? 1.00

01:02:48.000 Post some pictures.

01:02:49.000 They do.

01:02:50.000 What happens next?

01:02:51.000 They get bombarded by likes and comments about how cool they are.

01:02:54.000 They feel good.

01:02:55.000 Then they say, did you feel good when you did it?

01:02:57.000 Like, yeah, it felt really good.

01:02:58.000 They're like, do more.

01:03:00.000 What actually feels good is the social acceptance.

01:03:02.000 Yeah.

01:03:03.000 Belonging. 0.96

01:03:04.000 Yeah.

01:03:05.000 And then they keep telling these kids to do more and more and more and more, and that was a story we heard explicitly from one detransitioned individual.

01:03:12.000 So, all that really matters, don't let your kids go to adult events.

01:03:17.000 Don't let your kids be exposed to this stuff.

01:03:19.000 But I agree with you, Vivek's position on this stuff, we were talking about this last night, if you go out in public and you hold up a big sign, a big picture of porn, You're going to get arrested.

01:03:30.000 Or at the very least, the cops are going to take it from you.

01:03:31.000 They're going to cite you or arrest you.

01:03:33.000 It's like obscenity laws.

01:03:35.000 If you speak your political mind, you're fine.

01:03:38.000 If you go online and speak your political mind, you will be destroyed.

01:03:42.000 But of course, porn is everywhere and totally acceptable on the Internet.

01:03:45.000 So it's backwards.

01:03:47.000 The Internet is a lawless, Wild West place.

01:03:51.000 And a lot of people are saying it's losing its Wild West edge, and there were good things about it when it was the Wild West, in that you could have a decentralized network of your friends actually doing productive things.

01:04:00.000 But what happened was the Internet started.

01:04:02.000 with a bunch of tech nerds. And that's why you end up with, in the early days, cool things

01:04:08.000 happening online, cool stories. Then people who want to hide from the mainstream start using it,

01:04:13.000 and you get weirdos using the internet and weird things on the internet. Now you have the

01:04:18.000 mainstreaming and the centralization of the internet where everything's becoming more like

01:04:22.000 apps. It's less free flowing, less about the domain and more about the app you're using.

01:04:28.000 But still, we've not codified anything to say, keep kids out of these adult facilities on the internet.

01:04:36.000 That needs to happen.

01:04:37.000 Yeah, I don't think there's a benefit to it.

01:04:39.000 I was thinking about recently, I wrote this story about how middle school test scores are sort of tanking.

01:04:45.000 And this, we saw a huge drop in the National Report Card in 2012.

01:04:49.000 And for me, it's impossible.

01:04:50.000 I know I can't prove correlation or causation, but Snapchat got released in July of 2011.

01:04:56.000 And Instagram got released in October of 2010.

01:04:58.000 And I think It's interesting because a specific study talked about how fewer kids choose to read for fun on their own.

01:05:08.000 And that's true of all performance levels.

01:05:11.000 And now you wonder, what are they doing?

01:05:12.000 Are they outside running around more?

01:05:15.000 No, they're all on TikTok.

01:05:16.000 They're on Instagram.

01:05:17.000 They're on Snapchat.

01:05:18.000 They're completely devoted to the screen and they're suffering because of it.

01:05:22.000 Again, there are probably lots of things that factor into this, but I don't think we can deny that social media has changed childhood, or at least pre-teenhood, forever, and I don't know that it's beneficial.

01:05:33.000 People who say, oh, you have to connect with people and find your community, like, shouldn't we be encouraging kids to do this in person?

01:05:39.000 To have in-person conversations and to find communities that they see face-to-face that we know are not someone else?

01:05:46.000 There was a reason that show Catfish got so popular, right?

01:05:49.000 Because it reminds you constantly that You don't know exactly who you're talking to on the internet unless you have actually met them.

01:05:56.000 And if it can happen to you when you're 21 and talking to someone online, think of what can happen to basically an even more gullible child who gets online at 12.

01:06:05.000 Well, and it's so widespread, and sadly, like, most of society does not live on Twitter and see these videos go viral.

01:06:12.000 We have 340 million people in our country, the vast majority of them will never see that video of that chant.

01:06:18.000 So what's concerning is, you'll tell them, they're trying to groom your kids, look, they're admitting it, but they don't see that.

01:06:23.000 Like, most average moms and dads still believe that the public schools are wonderful, our teachers would never groom the kids, they're not actually, they just want equality, like, they're, again, a lot of people stuck in this, they don't realize- But it's changing.

01:06:36.000 I hope so.

01:06:37.000 But Bud Light proves it, that's my point.

01:06:38.000 Bud Light does prove it, that's true.

01:06:39.000 Once it becomes that mainstream, my problem is that there's still too much of a denial that our country has related to things like this.

01:06:47.000 Do you remember two years ago when the San Francisco Gay Choir during Zoom came out and literally sang, We're Coming For Your Children?

01:06:54.000 It's like, they've been telling us for years what they're trying to do, why are we just now waking up to it?

01:06:59.000 I think part of the reason why we're just now waking up to it is because people have not had a lot, there's not been a lot of voices articulating what the actual intent is.

01:07:12.000 Like the fact that there is an effort made by people on the left to interrupt the raising of children so that way they can change their opinions to be a socialist opinion.

01:07:27.000 That's looked at as a conspiracy theory, right?

01:07:30.000 But I think that's only one small element of it.

01:07:36.000 I think the bigger picture is just that The fact that people can articulate that there is a process that happens, like when you raise your kids, you create more liberals.

01:07:57.000 Essentially, it's what happens in America.

01:07:58.000 Liberals have liberal values.

01:08:00.000 Raise your kids.

01:08:01.000 To be liberal.

01:08:02.000 What a socialist wants to do is interrupt that instilling kids with liberal values.

01:08:08.000 They want to stop that, prevent parents from instilling liberal values in their children.

01:08:13.000 You mean like classical liberal?

01:08:14.000 Yeah, well, you know, things like freedom of speech.

01:08:17.000 The idea of freedom of speech is no longer something that Gen Z looks as really, really valuable. 1.00

01:08:24.000 And there are people that make the argument that the freedom of speech might not be a good thing.

01:08:28.000 And the reason that they make that argument is because there are people that are teaching them, well, instead of saying, look, it's super important because if you don't have free speech, X, Y, and Z happen.

01:08:38.000 Well, you have people that come in and say, well, you know, X, Y, and Z might happen, but you also need to be worried about A, B, and C, because if you say bad things, it'll hurt people, etc.

01:08:47.000 And the importance of liberal values is not being instilled in the younger generation.

01:08:55.000 And without the younger generation being instilled with liberal values, And they're not going to look at our society the same way that their parents did.

01:09:06.000 And so the left is looking to interrupt that creation or recreation of society.

01:09:12.000 And they're looking to interject their own values into more kids.

01:09:16.000 And I think that the fact that parents have heard that somewhat and may have been aware of it, you see that.

01:09:24.000 When there are people saying, we're coming for your children, that is a tangible reality that you can associate with a story that you told them, right?

01:09:33.000 I'm telling you, look, the left is coming for your kids, and they're like, this is why, and they want to teach your kids, and parents be like, that guy's crazy, whatever, they can blow it off.

01:09:42.000 Show them that, and they're like, whoa.

01:09:45.000 Do you think we should change how we phrase it then?

01:09:46.000 Like, instead of being like, the left's coming for your kids, should we say, like, hey, you have to be careful about the content that your children are consuming?

01:09:52.000 I think people get turned off by politics, and so they start saying, like, oh, you're just being too political.

01:09:58.000 But if you were to say, hey, I don't think you want your kid exposed to sexual material, you probably shouldn't take them to this event, or you should be wary about this thing, it becomes more palatable.

01:10:06.000 Well, that's why Vivek's trying to make it policy, is because most people don't respond to the hyper-social culture war language.

01:10:16.000 They'd respond more to, like, here are the dangers of social media and the government's role is to protect you from danger.

01:10:22.000 That's the way he's trying to frame it.

01:10:24.000 I think social media, at least for me personally, I think the government's involvement in social media should be very delicate.

01:10:32.000 I'm not super against the government censoring or whatever.

01:10:37.000 I do think that the government should be extremely aware of what curriculum is being taught to children.

01:10:44.000 And that's not just something that That is in public schools either because there are companies that are private companies that produce the curriculum that gets put in schools.

01:10:54.000 And if those companies are producing corrupted materials, they're producing books that have these ideologies written into them, things that are influenced by people like Paulo Freire and stuff.

01:11:06.000 If that's the curriculum being sold to private schools as well as public schools, going to private schools is no longer a good enough thing because they're still being taught the same curriculum.

01:11:16.000 So it has to be, you have to make sure that the ideology that is, the ideology is not injected into the curriculum and that takes parents being aware of what the ideology is.

01:11:29.000 They have to be able to identify gender issues.

01:11:31.000 It's not a small ask.

01:11:35.000 This is a big, long-term project that people need to undertake if they're going to save the United States from a legitimate cultural revolution.

01:11:47.000 But don't you- because I agree on a lot of that.

01:11:51.000 The social media part I have a tough time with because like Twitter says that 13 and up is allowed to use it and Twitter also has pornography.

01:11:57.000 And you've been on Twitter before where people reply to popular posts with like sexually explicit content that kids are now able to see, 14 year olds.

01:12:06.000 Should be illegal.

01:12:07.000 It should be illegal, absolutely.

01:12:08.000 You either up the age or you make porn on Twitter illegal.

01:12:12.000 I think that you should probably do both.

01:12:14.000 But back to an earlier point you made, do you think though that parents reverting to liberal values will help things?

01:12:23.000 Isn't liberalism essentially live and let live?

01:12:26.000 It's that this is the way they choose to live and you got to respect everybody chooses to live because I actually see it a little different.

01:12:32.000 I think that the only people that have been right consistently for the past 10 years were the religious conservatives that were like, it's a slippery slope.

01:12:38.000 It's a slippery slope. 0.86

01:12:39.000 They're coming for your kids and they were laughed off as fundamentalists that were Too, uh, too prissy and sort of... Bible thumpers. 0.97

01:12:48.000 Bible thumpers. 1.00

01:12:49.000 When in reality, they were right. 0.85

01:12:50.000 Like, my grandma, who warned us all that this is a slippery slope, and if you let them get away with this stuff, they're gonna teach your kids and adopt your kids.

01:12:57.000 Like, that wasn't seen as a liberal value.

01:13:00.000 I don't see it as a slippery slope.

01:13:01.000 I see it as... Hey, here's a thing that we now think is acceptable, and here's a thing we see as unacceptable.

01:13:08.000 So you just see the Overton window shifting?

01:13:10.000 Well, I mean...

01:13:12.000 I don't care if some dude and a woman go into the privacy of their own home and like swing around on ceiling fans and do backflips on weird bondage frames. 1.00

01:13:24.000 I care when they film it and then start showing little kids.

01:13:27.000 It's not a slippery slope.

01:13:28.000 These people have always existed and have always tried to do these things.

01:13:31.000 The slippery slope, if there is one, is the internet and it's not that we say allowed gay marriage. 0.95

01:13:37.000 But don't you think culture has become more accepting of more radical and extreme things?

01:13:41.000 It's the internet.

01:13:43.000 If the idea was live and let live means whatever you do in the privacy of your own home, that works in the privacy of your own home.

01:13:49.000 The problem now is some person will post Obscene images on the internet and expose kids to it and we don't do anything about it.

01:13:58.000 That should be illegal.

01:13:59.000 It's kind of crazy to me that we are in a day and age, come on, anybody knows, if you go to a playground and you post obscene material, you're going to get arrested.

01:14:08.000 But if you go to Pride, they don't care.

01:14:11.000 There's a clear double standard.

01:14:13.000 On the internet, I have questions.

01:14:15.000 This is what I proposed to YouTube.

01:14:17.000 There is a video out of Santa, I think it was West Hollywood, where two men are on a truck performing a four-play sex act on each other, in public, in front of everybody, children were present.

01:14:29.000 So I said, okay, YouTube, let's see how you tolerate this. 0.60

01:14:33.000 Will YouTube allow this video?

01:14:35.000 I need to check to see if it was demonetized, but it wasn't banned or anything like that.

01:14:39.000 The issue is this.

01:14:41.000 You cannot do... Ten years ago, we talked about a slippery slope.

01:14:46.000 Yeah, in the privacy of your own home, you could two guys, two women, whatever, three guys, two women, two guys, whatever.

01:14:54.000 They weren't doing it in public, so nobody was concerned about it.

01:14:57.000 The internet is public.

01:14:58.000 They're now doing it in public.

01:15:00.000 That's the problem.

01:15:01.000 And if there is a problem that needs to be fixed, it's you should not be allowed to publish these things in public.

01:15:08.000 There you go.

01:15:09.000 Problem solved.

01:15:09.000 I think it's a both and.

01:15:11.000 I think, yes, it's the internet that's basically numbed our culture to a bunch of awful content that should be seen as egregious and people absolutely revolt against.

01:15:21.000 But at the same time, I also believe, like in California, We've got state senator Anthony Weiner who's coming up with some new crazy radical proposal related to sex every single day, and that's not internet related.

01:15:33.000 That's purely policy.

01:15:34.000 It's talking about what forms of abuse they can get away with to kids, and it's consistently passing the legislature.

01:15:41.000 Like, it's making it through these committees that ten years ago we would have said, well, it may be because of the internet.

01:15:46.000 But the fact is, people in there, I do think there's a level of this, like, well, I said live and let live ten years ago, I still believe that, I have this sort of framework of people do what they want, and who am I to judge?

01:15:57.000 That's a very liberal principle, whereas someone who's more conservative like me would say, I actually think there's an objective line that we should all agree to.

01:16:05.000 If this wasn't on the internet, People would not fear the negative press.

01:16:09.000 So these politicians are like, if I oppose this, people will attack me online.

01:16:13.000 It's the internet.

01:16:16.000 Many of these politicians are just going to say whatever they think is popular.

01:16:19.000 Well, the video from Pride got a million clicks.

01:16:22.000 That's what they're going to agree with.

01:16:24.000 So I really just think When it comes to liberals, there's no moral framework.

01:16:30.000 They'll lie about everything.

01:16:33.000 I mean, look at this, we had the person on the show, and I'll keep it somewhat vague because I'm tired of talking about it, who said they like this, we have this book right here, this book is gay, that describes things children should not be hearing.

01:16:47.000 And they said it shouldn't be censored from schools.

01:16:51.000 Advocacy for a book That is not for children being given to children.

01:16:56.000 That would teach children how to use adult sex apps.

01:16:58.000 They agree with it. 0.89

01:16:59.000 Why?

01:17:00.000 Because the internet said to.

01:17:02.000 If there was no internet, they would just say whatever the TV told them to say.

01:17:05.000 So I guess my question is, what ideology stops that from happening?

01:17:08.000 Because I would argue that it's not classical liberalism anymore.

01:17:11.000 I think my opinion is that there is the need for a conservative uprising against this, of family values-led Policies, ideologies, cultural statements, companies that say like, no, no, we're going to go back to the basics here.

01:17:27.000 Stop talking about any of this.

01:17:28.000 No matter if you're an adult or a kid, we don't want to hear about your sex life at all anymore.

01:17:31.000 The founding fathers were classical liberals.

01:17:34.000 Yeah, I think they would roll in their grave at the social stuff we've allowed in our classical liberalism, though.

01:17:39.000 But it's not classical liberalism.

01:17:41.000 It's corruption and degradation and degeneracy.

01:17:43.000 But you just said liberals don't have a moral framework, so where does the line start?

01:17:46.000 So when I say liberal, I'm talking about the culture war left.

01:17:50.000 So, colloquially, we use liberal to refer to a body of people, but it doesn't actually describe liberalism.

01:17:55.000 Thomas Jefferson, a classical liberal, would, as you're correct, roll in his, spin so fast in his grave, it would generate free energy.

01:18:01.000 Yes.

01:18:02.000 So, DASLA.

01:18:03.000 Exactly, just, you know, we could hook up some cables to those coffins and we'll be powering this country forever.

01:18:08.000 So, classical liberalism is more about individuality, meritocracy, etc.

01:18:14.000 And even conservatives agree with the principles of the Founding Fathers in that regard, the seeds that were planted in this country that granted people civil rights.

01:18:22.000 Someone going outside and plotting and declaring they're going to come and commit crimes against your children, those are criminal acts.

01:18:29.000 The cops aren't arresting these people.

01:18:31.000 It is not classical liberalism that we have laws being broken every day that police won't arrest people for.

01:18:36.000 It's just general social decay.

01:18:40.000 So I guess I come back to, like, our Constitution's only built for a moral and virtuous people.

01:18:44.000 Even amongst the classical liberals, they had such a sense of conserving something pure that we all have to agree on that or else the society's gonna fall apart.

01:18:52.000 So I guess my thing is, like, if we wanted to redeem so much of the cultural degradation that's taking place, like, is the goal just to bring it back to a state where everyone's just sort of live and let live except for when it affects the kids?

01:19:05.000 What's the goal?

01:19:06.000 Because I see most of my classical liberal friends Sort of not being on the front lines of a lot of this and not really caring.

01:19:13.000 Where it's my conservative friends that are the ones leading the charge, it's the mama bears that are conservative leading the charge against Target.

01:19:18.000 Are you talking about classical liberals or traditional liberals?

01:19:21.000 I'm talking about classical liberals that would, not in terms of leftist, I'm making a distinction between leftist and liberal.

01:19:28.000 I'm hearing you say that parents lost the teaching of liberal values to their children and that's what led to a lot of cultural and societal decay.

01:19:37.000 And I would argue that it's actually parents becoming too liberal that has led to a lot of this decay, and that there's a need for more conserving and conservatism back in society and in the household.

01:19:48.000 Because we've allowed the line of acceptability to just completely leave sight.

01:19:52.000 It's past the horizon at this point.

01:19:54.000 The way that I understand or the way that I use liberal and stuff like that, to me, conservatives are conserving liberal values, right?

01:20:03.000 Progressives are trying to progress beyond liberal values.

01:20:08.000 And I think more about the philosophy behind the left and the right.

01:20:13.000 So someone like Rousseau would be like the kind of the father of modern leftism.

01:20:18.000 And whereas Adam Smith and the founders of this country would kind of be the liberal idea, or what I think of as a liberal.

01:20:29.000 So I don't think that we need to have strict controls on people's Private lives.

01:20:36.000 I don't think that the that that we need to worry about who's having sex with who I do Like I'm I'm the guy that wants to get rid of the whole Department of Education just get rid of it I'm like I'm a very small government guy.

01:20:49.000 I want to get rid of as much bureaucracy as possible and I think that The combination of getting rid of the bureaucracy behind the education of children is, I think that's a, it's a start, but it's not going to fix everything.

01:21:03.000 Because like I said, this stuff is in the curriculum as well.

01:21:07.000 So there has to be people that are looking, that are teaching liberalism as in the fundamental rights of individual liberty and stuff like that.

01:21:17.000 And that even goes to the idea that your word is important.

01:21:21.000 So like progressives, The philosophy on the left doesn't come from the philosophy of that we can actually interact with reality, right?

01:21:31.000 They believe that perspective matters and lived experience matters, etc.

01:21:36.000 And these are broad ideas that I'm talking about.

01:21:38.000 So there's going to be people that are going to disagree with me, but for People on the left don't think things like your word or being honest are important because they're consequentialists and they're postmodernists and so they don't believe that truth is a thing that you can actually come in contact with.

01:21:59.000 They believe that the consequences matter so they'll lie to you.

01:22:03.000 So we need to have people explain why things like consequentialism are bad.

01:22:10.000 And you don't do it by telling a child that consequentialism is bad.

01:22:13.000 You tell them, look, it's important to tell the truth, and here's why.

01:22:17.000 That's something people can understand.

01:22:19.000 I think one of the big issues is conservatives, for a long time, blindly just supported cops.

01:22:26.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:22:28.000 You have right now, one of the issues in West Virginia is they did a drag show with kids.

01:22:33.000 And so the people in the community are like, hey, are they going to arrest these people?

01:22:37.000 Well, we've seen nothing so far.

01:22:38.000 It's only been a couple of weeks.

01:22:39.000 We'll see.

01:22:39.000 But no one really thinks the AG was going to go after them, despite the fact it's illegal.

01:22:45.000 And it is illegal, because here's the funny thing.

01:22:47.000 And I pulled it all up again.

01:22:49.000 It's so illegal in West Virginia, it is illegal to engage, to cohabitate with someone Seriously, no persons not married to each other shall lewdly and lasciviously associate and cohabitate together, or whether married or not, be guilty of open or gross lewdness and lasciviousness.

01:23:07.000 That's still a law.

01:23:08.000 An active law.

01:23:09.000 One of six states that still has a law in the book that says if you are not married you can't live together.

01:23:13.000 I'm not suggesting they actually enforce a law like that.

01:23:13.000 Wow.

01:23:16.000 My point is, if that law's still in the books, you better damn well believe a man wearing skimpy women's clothing and engaging in a sex show in public with children on stage is illegal.

01:23:27.000 Yes.

01:23:28.000 Why won't they just enforce the existing laws?

01:23:31.000 Now, hey, If the left thinks the laws are bad, they can go to the legislature and change those laws.

01:23:36.000 But in West Virginia, this democratic institution has spoken, and it is illegal to do these things.

01:23:43.000 In fact, Jefferson County explicitly recently passed an order saying, you can't do these things.

01:23:49.000 The problem is, as people in big cities started engaging and pushing the boundary more and more and more, cops were not enforcing the law.

01:23:57.000 And so, conservatives just kept saying, keep doing your good old job!

01:24:01.000 And now we're at the point where, I guess they're called what, blue laws?

01:24:04.000 Where it's like, they're laws, but no one would seriously enforce it.

01:24:08.000 So you'll end up now with an adult having a sex performance.

01:24:11.000 I mean, look at that kid. 0.97

01:24:13.000 That little kid dancing at an adult gay club, taking his clothes off on stage in exchange for tips.

01:24:18.000 And this was like four or five years ago. 0.99

01:24:20.000 It's disgusting.

01:24:21.000 And no police action.

01:24:23.000 You had the drag show with kids in Texas, and the cops were like, we can't do anything about it.

01:24:28.000 And a bunch of people pointing out like, yo, there's a law right here saying you can't do this.

01:24:31.000 You absolutely can do something about it.

01:24:32.000 But the cops are like, no.

01:24:34.000 And conservatives just kept saying back the blue.

01:24:37.000 No, I trust you.

01:24:38.000 I think we should just abolish the police.

01:24:42.000 Just look, go back to militias.

01:24:45.000 Go back to the law enforcement is in the hands of the community.

01:24:49.000 Exactly what the left wanted, right?

01:24:51.000 But let's entertain this.

01:24:52.000 I'm not talking about social workers showing up and going, everyone calm down.

01:24:55.000 I'm talking about if you come onto a public, if you come onto a residential street, It is the neighborhood watch who is empowered to enforce the laws in their residences.

01:25:06.000 That means when Antifa shows up with bricks, it is the local neighborhood watch who comes out, detains the individuals, and then has them arrested.

01:25:14.000 Instead, what happens is the cops show up, and they say, you know, look, if we arrest these guys, it'll make a bigger riot, so we're gonna let them rampage through your neighborhood.

01:25:20.000 Now, enforce the communities, how about that?

01:25:22.000 Give the left exactly what they're asking for, because if the cops aren't going to arrest the people breaking the law, why should I care if we have cops?

01:25:31.000 We've got mass rioting.

01:25:33.000 Is the federal law enforcement arresting Antifa?

01:25:35.000 No!

01:25:36.000 They're arresting Trump supporters!

01:25:37.000 They're arresting pro-lifers!

01:25:39.000 I am not going to sit here and defend police when law enforcement is going to some pro-lifer's house because they stood in front of a Planned Parenthood.

01:25:47.000 You want to make that illegal? 0.90

01:25:47.000 Okay, fine. 0.90

01:25:49.000 They went in front of the homes of the Supreme Court.

01:25:50.000 Justice is also illegal.

01:25:51.000 And those people didn't get arrested.

01:25:54.000 They closed all businesses during COVID.

01:25:56.000 So they don't shut down a drag march, but they do shut down the church that stayed open in Kentucky during COVID.

01:26:02.000 I'm saying, look, trust me, I agree.

01:26:04.000 I think that I have more hope for local police departments than I do for the FBI, for example, because it's so centralized and bureaucratic and corrupt at this point.

01:26:13.000 You can't redeem it.

01:26:14.000 So just get rid of it.

01:26:15.000 Local police departments.

01:26:16.000 It was interesting during COVID in California, because if you were if you were with Riverside, You were a cop that respected the rule of law, you were not going to shut down businesses, you had a sheriff in the county that was very much on the side of individual liberties, and you had a really respecting police force that actually did their job really well.

01:26:34.000 If you're in L.A., though, you were shutting off people's power who were hosting house parties during COVID, and it was by those cops that did the same thing.

01:26:42.000 So trust me, I'm not blindly back the blue.

01:26:45.000 There was a woman in Minnesota who opened her cafe They don't enforce the law. 1.00

01:26:52.000 charges against her. She fled and the sheriff hunted her down, arrested her. And so look,

01:26:58.000 you see this across the board, right? In New Jersey, in suburban southern New Jersey,

01:27:06.000 cops went and shut Attila's gym down. These cops don't care. 0.86

01:27:10.000 They don't enforce the law.

01:27:12.000 They will stand like... Luke Rutkowski filmed an interview with a guy who was on a train.

01:27:18.000 A madman with a knife started stabbing people, and the cops were like, we're not gonna do anything about that.

01:27:22.000 The cops in New York City are gonna give you a ticket, but they can't stop crime.

01:27:26.000 Now don't get me wrong, there are good cops.

01:27:28.000 We have a video going viral right now of a cop talking to kids about seatbelts, then he hears gunshots, he runs straight into danger.

01:27:34.000 Hero.

01:27:35.000 You got the cops who ran into that school when that trans mass shooter was shooting, and they did it by the book, and they stopped that threat, and they saved lives.

01:27:42.000 There are a ton of good cops.

01:27:42.000 Heroes.

01:27:44.000 The issue, though, is police are no longer members of the community in regard to what we think is acceptable.

01:27:52.000 They don't want to be involved.

01:27:53.000 So when in Texas, you have angry people from this area being like, these people don't live here, and they're bringing children to a sex show, the cops go, well, I'm not going to get involved.

01:28:03.000 All it takes is for one cop to be like, I'll arrest him.

01:28:06.000 It's illegal.

01:28:07.000 They're afraid they're going to lose their job.

01:28:07.000 Nope, they don't do it.

01:28:09.000 And society has given them every reason to be afraid they're going to lose their job.

01:28:13.000 It's why they, uh, it's why culture celebrates, uh, the victim, or excuse me, they celebrate the perpetrator of the crime instead of the guy who jumps in and stops at Jacob Penney or whatever in New York recently.

01:28:24.000 Daniel Penney.

01:28:27.000 Exactly.

01:28:27.000 Well, good.

01:28:28.000 He was not guilty of anything.

01:28:29.000 It was a perfectly legitimate scenario where the women and the children on the subway were literally saying thank you to this guy.

01:28:35.000 So why are we not taking a lesson from him?

01:28:38.000 That's what I really agree with your point, that like, it should be communities that are responsible for their own- The cops arrested him.

01:28:42.000 Yeah, it's absurd.

01:28:43.000 And that right there was the best case story, I think, for what you're describing, which is how on earth was the guy who was terrorizing women and children on the subway seen as some sort of hero because he used to dance on the subway platform, while the guy who's actually stepping in to protect women and children is the one getting arrested?

01:29:00.000 Liberal values would have said that you protect people.

01:29:05.000 That would be the liberal thing to do, protect the individuals.

01:29:08.000 Yeah, it's just sad how those terms have become so distorted.

01:29:10.000 I was gonna say, Daniel Penney was initially questioned by police and released. And then

01:29:14.000 later, Alvin Bragg was like, just kidding, we need to arrest that guy. So you mean to tell me that Alvin

01:29:19.000 Bragg in New York will arrest a guy, even though the police already determined it's self-defense,

01:29:26.000 but Morrissey in West Virginia won't arrest the people putting on sex shows in public with

01:29:30.000 children. That is the problem.

01:29:33.000 So, you know, I've met I've met Morrissey and I'm getting more and more upset.

01:29:38.000 One of the issues is that we're trying to open businesses in West Virginia, but if it is the case that West Virginia is a state that allows adults to have sex shows in public with children present, as they did in Martinsburg this past week, and we got video of it, And the AG won't do anything about it, then I suggest divesting from West Virginia.

01:29:56.000 Because screw that, Texas and Florida are doing a lot better on these fronts, and everybody kept screaming, go to Florida instead.

01:30:02.000 I gotta be honest, I just, I like the mountains.

01:30:04.000 I like the people here.

01:30:05.000 It's MAGA country, it's 86% Trump-supporting.

01:30:08.000 Most people are in agreement.

01:30:10.000 So, I'm not trying to come down hard on the AG right now, because I don't know what he's doing.

01:30:13.000 But I expect to see action taken in this regard.

01:30:16.000 Jefferson County banned this stuff.

01:30:18.000 The people who live here are pissed off about it.

01:30:21.000 And the people who are coming and bringing the stuff here don't live here.

01:30:25.000 So I am frustrated that you get an AG in New York, you get an AG in D.C., you get two AGs, you get Alvin Bragg at Walton Bolton's that's going after Trump, going after Penny.

01:30:38.000 Clearly ideological prosecutions.

01:30:41.000 When we actually have a law on the books, we see nothing.

01:30:45.000 This is the problem.

01:30:46.000 You want to fix all of this?

01:30:48.000 It's really simple.

01:30:50.000 Red states need to actually just enforce the law and stop being whiny little crybabies who are like, but the New York Times will insult me and I'm up for re-election. 0.79

01:30:59.000 Fine. 0.59

01:31:00.000 I ain't voting for you.

01:31:01.000 But we'll see.

01:31:02.000 Maybe Morrissey will do the right thing and he'll actually start bringing charges against the people who organized this event because we've got video footage of it.

01:31:08.000 And I'm supposed to start a business?

01:31:11.000 I'm supposed to move my business here?

01:31:13.000 I'm supposed to set up a brick-and-mortar shop?

01:31:17.000 And you mean to tell me that nearby they're putting on sex shows and they're bringing kids to them?

01:31:22.000 I expect the AG to actually bring charges to people who organized and put on this event as the law states you cannot do.

01:31:29.000 Look, I can simplify it for you.

01:31:31.000 This law says if two people, whether married or not, engage in open gross lewdness, it's a misdemeanor.

01:31:36.000 That's every Pride March.

01:31:38.000 Well, look, call it whatever you want.

01:31:39.000 I'm telling you, if we've got video of people putting on adult sex shows and bringing kids involved, that is more than just open lewdness.

01:31:47.000 Where is the AG to immediately come down?

01:31:50.000 You know what?

01:31:50.000 They're scared.

01:31:51.000 They're terrified.

01:31:52.000 They're scared of all of these people.

01:31:53.000 Well, if you're in West Virginia and you're law enforcement and you are letting this stuff happen, I assure you, the people who live in West Virginia are very, very angry.

01:32:03.000 Very, very angry.

01:32:05.000 Look, The joke is, up on the mountain, it's a bunch of right-wing nutjobs.

01:32:09.000 Jefferson County explicitly banned children being at drag performances.

01:32:15.000 Where are the cops?

01:32:16.000 Granted, granted, granted, what I'm talking about outside of that is Berkeley County.

01:32:18.000 My point is the residents of this area.

01:32:21.000 The opinion doesn't just shift when you cross county lines.

01:32:24.000 No, the people in Berkeley County are pissed off about this.

01:32:26.000 I talk to them.

01:32:27.000 I'm pissed off about it because I'm spending money here.

01:32:30.000 Mostly, let me clarify, I'm not saying that we will see what the AG does, what the Sheriff's Department does, what the local police do, if anything.

01:32:40.000 I'll give them time.

01:32:41.000 I'm just pissed off that we can see in California, in New York, in Illinois, they release all of these criminals, they arrest the victims, and then where we live, when we expect a rule of law, we still don't get it. 0.95

01:32:57.000 One, if you can't have it happen in West Virginia, this is supposed to be like the safest haven for people that believe that this type of nonsense is disgusting and grotesque.

01:33:07.000 Like, 86% MAGA country, you would think that the DA here, of all places, would say, yeah, you know what, I can go arrest and know that I'm gonna have a win in the court of public opinion, that the public will back me, my constituents will re-elect me because they see me taking a stance against child indoctrination.

01:33:22.000 If that can't happen here, something's deeply flawed, because this should be the place Well, I don't want to jump the gun just yet because this was just like two weeks ago, right?

01:33:30.000 And there are people telling me that they're reaching out to the office and they're demanding action in this regard.

01:33:35.000 Maybe we'll see something.

01:33:36.000 I hope you do.

01:33:37.000 Maybe we need to organize some protests.

01:33:39.000 Maybe we need to take a page out of Alinsky's book and start utilizing their own tactics against them.

01:33:45.000 Maybe we need to bring people out for a peaceful march through these streets demanding an end to this, not letting it happen again.

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01:34:11.000 Alright, I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, I don't know or have any relation to Annette Lewis, but she's the Albertan woman I mentioned last week who was denied an organ transplant for not being COVID vaxxed. 0.98

01:34:21.000 If we can help her with prayers and aid, that would be amazing.

01:34:23.000 Sorry to hear that, that's horrifying.

01:34:26.000 Hope for the best.

01:34:29.000 Leif Hagen says, DeSantis just said on Fox that he supports eliminating the Departments of Education, Commerce, Energy, and the IRS.

01:34:36.000 Wow, that's fantastic.

01:34:37.000 I look forward to him deleting that War Room tweet where he put up deepfakes and then we'll consider voting for him.

01:34:41.000 How about that?

01:34:42.000 Yeah, I'm not... I like all the things he's saying, but actions speak louder than words.

01:34:48.000 If DeSantis is saying he's going to do all these really great things, I mean, he's got to prove he actually cares about doing the right thing and take down one tweet?

01:34:56.000 This is a funny thing.

01:34:57.000 It's from the 4th, I think.

01:34:58.000 It's been a month.

01:34:59.000 And they can't just delete it and be like, we shouldn't have put that up.

01:35:02.000 I do not believe they're sincere and being genuine when he says he wants to do these things.

01:35:08.000 Sorry, but y'all can do whatever you want.

01:35:09.000 I'm not saying you don't have to vote for him.

01:35:11.000 You gotta look at who funds them.

01:35:13.000 To me, it all comes down to the funding.

01:35:14.000 Who's backing it with money?

01:35:16.000 And I don't love the community of funders.

01:35:19.000 That's true.

01:35:21.000 I'm not as big on that.

01:35:23.000 They ragged on Rubio for getting NRA money.

01:35:25.000 And he was like, they're not giving me money to do things, they're giving me money because of the things I do.

01:35:29.000 And that's the point.

01:35:30.000 I don't care who's giving DeSantis money, but understand the people who are giving him money are giving him money because he's doing something they like.

01:35:37.000 Yeah, I expect him to do. Yeah, I I love that too. I get concerned that sometimes though with some politicians

01:35:44.000 Especially ones that have been known to sort of go where the political winds blow

01:35:47.000 I eat sort of Jeb Bush in 2016 that the funding really does matter and

01:35:52.000 There's a reason why Trump was the most grassroots funding campaign that the country's ever seen because he spoke in

01:35:59.000 the language of the people So he wouldn't behold into anybody at least removes a

01:36:02.000 temptation when you're funded by the people because you're not having to answer to anybody

01:36:05.000 else that may remove their campaign funding if you're not operating in a way that they

01:36:09.000 like.

01:36:10.000 All right.

01:36:11.000 Dark Gift says, super coincidence.

01:36:13.000 Just heard of Public Square last week and love the app so much.

01:36:16.000 Just got my business listed as of yesterday.

01:36:18.000 Hey, thank you.

01:36:20.000 Thanks for joining us.

01:36:20.000 That's awesome.

01:36:21.000 What's your business?

01:36:22.000 Shout it out.

01:36:23.000 We'd love to promote you.

01:36:24.000 Right on.

01:36:25.000 Bosiva says, do you think New Hampshire will remain a free state or will its blue neighbors slowly forced to become a commie woke state?

01:36:31.000 Will freedom win?

01:36:32.000 You know, Luke Rutkowski was like, you got to go to New Hampshire.

01:36:35.000 You got to go to New Hampshire.

01:36:35.000 And I was in Florida.

01:36:36.000 Yeah.

01:36:37.000 But I said, dude, the issue with New Hampshire is you're surrounded by blue states.

01:36:41.000 So, I mean, it may be a nice little safe haven so long as this system is existing, but in the event of social breakdown, you're surrounded.

01:36:49.000 The worst thing about Florida is January.

01:36:51.000 I'm sorry, worst thing about New Hampshire is January.

01:36:54.000 Yeah.

01:36:55.000 New England's such a weird- You mean there's snow?

01:36:57.000 Oh god.

01:36:58.000 It can be awful up there, yes.

01:37:00.000 Nah, I think that'd be awesome.

01:37:01.000 New England's weird because- As long as you got a good strong internet connection and you know- Hunker down.

01:37:04.000 You're prepared.

01:37:05.000 You go snowboarding.

01:37:06.000 We're returning to the internet connection.

01:37:07.000 Broadband.

01:37:08.000 No, I mean, New England's weird because you do have people who vote right but there's just not enough of them to turn the state.

01:37:15.000 So like Maine is very famously, you know, they send Angus King up every year and it is a purple state but They will ultimately always end up blue, at least right now.

01:37:25.000 I'd love to see a shift.

01:37:26.000 It's probably not going to happen.

01:37:27.000 We just moved our headquarters to Florida this month.

01:37:29.000 June.

01:37:29.000 Right on.

01:37:30.000 Moved from San Diego.

01:37:31.000 We're political refugees to Palm Beach, Florida.

01:37:33.000 I can't do the snow.

01:37:34.000 I'm with you.

01:37:35.000 I have a lot of... Well, I like the snow.

01:37:37.000 West Virginia didn't have any this year, which kind of sucked, but... None of this area had snow?

01:37:41.000 No.

01:37:41.000 No snow this year.

01:37:42.000 Wow.

01:37:43.000 It's like the first time in a long time.

01:37:45.000 And the fruit is all massive.

01:37:46.000 So we have pawpaw, which they call hillbilly banana, and normally you'll notice little buds growing this time of year, and then in October they're massive.

01:37:54.000 They're already massive.

01:37:56.000 So, I'm wondering if the warm weather has caused them to grow earlier.

01:38:00.000 The fruit season happened a lot earlier, but it's crazy.

01:38:05.000 We got grapes everywhere.

01:38:06.000 I'm wondering if that may be because it was so warm that the year before we had snow, you know, several times.

01:38:06.000 Wow.

01:38:14.000 And you get grapes out here, they're called frost grapes, when at first frost they become sweet, it goes from like tart to sweet.

01:38:19.000 Wow.

01:38:20.000 Now they're everywhere, and we think it may be that because it was so warm, the plants got an early start in spreading and growing and stuff.

01:38:26.000 What's the hillbilly banana called?

01:38:27.000 Pawpaw.

01:38:28.000 Pawpaw.

01:38:28.000 Does it look like a banana?

01:38:30.000 No, it looks more like, um, I don't know, potato?

01:38:33.000 Yeah, I'd say potato.

01:38:34.000 What's it taste like?

01:38:35.000 It's supposed to be like the texture.

01:38:36.000 It tastes like if you took mango, banana, and avocado and mashed it all together.

01:38:40.000 Avocado's interesting to that mix.

01:38:42.000 Yeah, maybe mango-banana mix is probably a better way to describe it.

01:38:46.000 So it's still sweet?

01:38:46.000 Gotcha.

01:38:47.000 Oh, it's definitely sweet.

01:38:49.000 Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's like a, it's a, you peel it open and it's got a, it's like mango inside.

01:38:54.000 People make it into all kinds of things, but one of the first times I had it, it was as soda, and you could sell it alongside citrus sodas or pineapple or whatever.

01:39:04.000 It's really nice.

01:39:05.000 The fruits that we typically have in stores are because they're easy to grow and transport.

01:39:10.000 So we have probably five billion mulberries, and the people... I can't eat them, I'm allergic, but everybody loves them, and they pick them off the tree just to eat them.

01:39:19.000 And, uh, you can't transfer them, they break too easily.

01:39:22.000 Then we've got wild black raspberry.

01:39:24.000 You can't buy them in stores, for the most part, because the yield is too low, so it's not a cash crop.

01:39:28.000 But, you've got little black raspberries everywhere, you can pick them and just eat them.

01:39:32.000 Nobody wants to invest in growing a low-yield crop.

01:39:35.000 Then we have wine berries everywhere.

01:39:37.000 They're wine raspberries, they're Chinese raspberries.

01:39:40.000 There's probably 50 billion of them.

01:39:41.000 They're literally everywhere.

01:39:42.000 You just grab a handful, they're like... It's amazing.

01:39:44.000 They're like little candies, it's amazing.

01:39:47.000 Alright, T-Rex Pet Shop says, We're so grateful for Public Square.

01:39:50.000 T-Rex Pet Shop has grown significantly as a result of Public Square.

01:39:53.000 If you don't like woke pet stores like PetSmart, Chewy, and Petco, support us as an anti-woke alternative.

01:39:59.000 Michael, do you have pets?

01:40:00.000 I do not have a pet.

01:40:01.000 I'm allergic to pretty much everything.

01:40:03.000 But, T-Rex Pet Shop, you guys are awesome.

01:40:05.000 I was actually introduced to your stuff last week.

01:40:07.000 So, big fan of T-Rex Pet Shop.

01:40:09.000 Check it out.

01:40:09.000 Why were you introduced to their stuff if you were allergic to everything?

01:40:11.000 Well, because our Instagram community loved them.

01:40:14.000 Oh! 0.60

01:40:14.000 Yeah, so everyone was messaging about T-Rex Pet Shop. 0.60

01:40:18.000 There's some really cool pet brands on the app, and they were the one that kept getting shouted out last week in a certain post.

01:40:23.000 We do these shopping guides where we say, Ditch Chewy and replace it with these companies that are on the app, and they were one of them.

01:40:29.000 So, shoutouts to T-Rex Pet Shop.

01:40:30.000 That's pretty cool.

01:40:30.000 Yeah, we have a... Mr. Bogus has to get a very special food.

01:40:34.000 It's like prescription food.

01:40:36.000 So, I don't know, T-Rex, I don't know if you mentioned if you had that, we were talking about it before, but we're going to like specialty shops, like online, to find it.

01:40:44.000 Maybe T-Rex, you got him.

01:40:45.000 Hook him up.

01:40:46.000 What do we got here?

01:40:47.000 Eric Miller says, question for Michael, how about having a media tab for Public Square?

01:40:51.000 You could advertise movies like The Sound of Freedom, comics like Ripperverse, and music like Trash House Records.

01:40:57.000 It's an amazing question.

01:40:58.000 I will say this.

01:40:59.000 Our philosophy as a company is to nail it before we scale it.

01:41:02.000 And so we have a massive mountain in front of us, which is commerce.

01:41:05.000 We are trying to literally become the Amazon replacement.

01:41:08.000 And we're trying to do it, and half the time it took them.

01:41:11.000 And so we have a massive set of challenges ahead of us, which we are going to excel at and exceed all expectations on.

01:41:19.000 We will focus on that mountain first, and then we will worry about others.

01:41:23.000 Having a media alternative, though, is an amazing idea, and I would love to one day incorporate it.

01:41:27.000 There's actually an incredible company called Lore.

01:41:29.000 You familiar with lore.tv?

01:41:31.000 They're amazing.

01:41:31.000 Check out lore.tv.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, it's really cool.

01:41:33.000 They're basically us for films, and they actually allow for consumers to help fund the films they want to see created.

01:41:39.000 Pretty cool.

01:41:40.000 So, shout out to Lore, but I love the recommendation.

01:41:43.000 We certainly want more freedom media and liberty-focused media, that's for sure.

01:41:46.000 Jack Domingo Conway says, I had a work social in San Diego last week.

01:41:50.000 I was able to push the conversation to Mike Hess Brewing.

01:41:53.000 I didn't tell anyone it was a Public Square business.

01:41:56.000 Here's what you do.

01:41:57.000 Right now, all of you, download Public Square.

01:42:01.000 Go onto the app, look for companies that your company, your business uses, and switch to those businesses.

01:42:08.000 So imagine you go to your, maybe you have an office, and you go in the break room, and there's coffee, and there's snacks.

01:42:16.000 What do you do?

01:42:17.000 You replace all the coffee with Casper Coffee.

01:42:19.000 Let's go.

01:42:20.000 You go to, anything you need that you normally have to buy from one of the big chains, go to Public Square first and see if you can find something from a company that doesn't hate you.

01:42:31.000 And you know what?

01:42:31.000 And I'll even say this.

01:42:34.000 Even if a company just doesn't care one way or the other about you, you're still better off going to Public Square because those companies agree with you on American values.

01:42:44.000 This is what it's all about.

01:42:45.000 A lot of the stuff that people need to understand when it comes to purchases are like business scale stuff.

01:42:50.000 So, you know, we were talking about Anheuser-Busch's stock going down.

01:42:55.000 How much of that is retail investors?

01:42:56.000 Very little.

01:42:57.000 It's big institutions that are buying stock and the reason it only moves in certain directions a little bit is because a big investment firm isn't going to sell off every single share.

01:43:07.000 Retail investors probably sold, but they make up a small portion.

01:43:11.000 Think about this.

01:43:13.000 Imagine there's like a guy who's got an office building with like 10 floors and there's 10 break rooms.

01:43:19.000 So they're spending $5,000 a month on coffee for their couple hundred employees.

01:43:23.000 Imagine if you went to Public Square, found a coffee company that was competitive and liked you, And switch to that coffee instead or to those notepads or to those pens or whatever it is you might want.

01:43:35.000 Now you're taking funding away from the massive multinational corporation and giving it to people who actually care about your values.

01:43:41.000 That's what's got to happen.

01:43:42.000 It's amazing.

01:43:43.000 That's the plan.

01:43:45.000 Yeah, so it could be anything.

01:43:46.000 But this is what Jack Domingo's mentioning, a work social.

01:43:48.000 Okay.

01:43:49.000 The next time your company is like, hey, we're doing a picnic, a big thing for the family, you know, why don't you order stuff, say, okay, go to Public Square and try and get everything you can from those businesses.

01:43:59.000 Some local, some order online, whatever it is you can do.

01:44:02.000 Did they say Mike Hess Brewing?

01:44:03.000 Was that in the comment?

01:44:04.000 Mike Hess Brewing.

01:44:04.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:05.000 The guy's a legend.

01:44:05.000 He's a patriot.

01:44:06.000 Right on.

01:44:07.000 And a San Diego business that's really well-known for super high-quality stuff.

01:44:10.000 And actually, that's an important note.

01:44:11.000 We were talking about Bud Light earlier, how it's basically liquid piss. 0.82

01:44:16.000 If a company like that was able to get so successful and their product sucks, what I

01:44:21.000 love about your coffee company and the companies that have been already mentioned that are

01:44:25.000 on Public Square is the only way we win is ultimately if the products are really high

01:44:29.000 quality also.

01:44:30.000 Because if we're promoting alternatives that are garbage, we're not going to win in the

01:44:34.000 People will go find the quality.

01:44:35.000 But what if you knew that there are actually tens of thousands of businesses that like you, they don't hate you, they don't want to indoctrinate you or your kids, and they happen to offer really high quality stuff?

01:44:45.000 So, shout out.

01:44:46.000 So this is our Appalachian Nights.

01:44:47.000 Let's go.

01:44:48.000 We got a bunch of samples sent to us from a distributor, from a roaster, and then we made our own blend.

01:44:59.000 Can I read your mission on the back?

01:45:05.000 This is so cool.

01:45:06.000 Born of a desire for a bold coffee and a need to build companies that support American values, Cast Brew Coffee was built to provide an alternative to the faceless corporate ecosystem and to foster a parallel economy that supports freedom.

01:45:19.000 That's amazing.

01:45:20.000 You tapped into a desire, too.

01:45:22.000 We've talked a lot about the right-left, conservative, progressive, all that, but there's a much deeper desire that goes way past political lines, which is there are a few corporations that run everything, and they don't like us.

01:45:33.000 And regardless of political affiliation, nobody likes shopping with Amazon because it's a bunch of nameless, faceless corporate brands that don't actually have a story to tell, whereas there are thousands of small businesses like this that actually contribute something positive to society more than just a good profit margin.

01:45:49.000 I appreciate it.

01:45:49.000 Starbucks views you and me like bees producing honey.

01:45:55.000 If a bee dies, they don't think twice.

01:45:58.000 They walk up, they wear their protective gear because they're worried about potential backlash, they go and they harvest the honey as we swarm around, and they don't care what we're saying or what we're doing.

01:46:07.000 They just want to make sure they're not going to anger the hive and cause problems while they get the honey out.

01:46:13.000 I don't like that.

01:46:14.000 I want to make a coffee company that is trying to earn the business of an individual by going

01:46:21.000 to them, looking them in the eyes and being like, hey man, I have a good coffee, it tastes

01:46:24.000 great, would you try it?

01:46:25.000 You do, would you like it?

01:46:26.000 You should buy from me.

01:46:27.000 Whereas the Starbucks approach, being so large, is more like, we have 300 million people in

01:46:33.000 this country.

01:46:34.000 If we change the price in this way, we'll increase by X percent and all that stuff.

01:46:40.000 It's all looked at by numbers.

01:46:42.000 If we do a pride campaign, what's our risk assessment? 0.96

01:46:45.000 It's like, we're going to lose 3% here and 4% there, but gain 6% here and then lose 2% there.

01:46:50.000 I don't care about any of that stuff.

01:46:52.000 That's the faceless sales act of the massive multinational corporation.

01:46:57.000 We want to be like, hey, why don't you come hang out with us at our store?

01:47:00.000 You should come and we should hang out and play video games.

01:47:04.000 We want it to be community-based.

01:47:06.000 The goal of the coffee company is not just to sell bags of coffee on the internet.

01:47:09.000 That's just the start.

01:47:10.000 The goal is to create a physical space where people can come and communicate with like-minded

01:47:15.000 The idea is, you walk into a coffee shop for your morning coffee, and there are TVs, and those TVs are playing Tim Cast, Steven Crowder, they're playing Ben Shapiro, and things like that.

01:47:25.000 So when the average person is just walking by and getting their coffee, they are now a part of this community too, and welcome to the conversation.

01:47:31.000 And for other people who don't know who else agrees with them or doesn't and is scared, you know that if you come to a place like this, most people are going to agree with you.

01:47:38.000 And you're gonna be watching that show, and if they get mad about it, they'll leave.

01:47:38.000 Yeah.

01:47:41.000 But the average person's probably gonna be like, he makes a good point.

01:47:43.000 And you'll be like, I do think he makes a good point.

01:47:44.000 And then you'll talk with like-minded people.

01:47:46.000 That's the big vision for doing coffee.

01:47:49.000 Because otherwise it's like...

01:47:51.000 You know, we could do a bunch of things.

01:47:52.000 We could sell supplements, we could sell t-shirts, whatever.

01:47:55.000 People are like, why coffee?

01:47:56.000 Well, the real reason is because we want physical spaces.

01:47:59.000 And hanging out and having a cup of coffee is the place for people to do things.

01:48:03.000 And we want to put up stages, we're going to have comedy, we're going to have shows.

01:48:06.000 We want to bring back community.

01:48:08.000 And one of the big things we want to do is Saturday morning cartoons.

01:48:11.000 Where parents will come at 7 a.m.

01:48:14.000 with their kids, cartoons will play that are approved family-friendly, none of this weird woke garbage, and there will be pancake sausage and eggs and whatever, and the parents can hang out and talk while the kids hang out and play, and that creates communal bonds between people who are in these local areas.

01:48:28.000 That's what I want to do.

01:48:29.000 That's why I'm pissed off about what's going on in West Virginia when I see them doing drag shows with kids, because that is a problem.

01:48:36.000 But I will admit, I think that our mission in the long run does away with that culturally by making it unthinkable.

01:48:44.000 Like Ron Paul said, should abortion be illegal?

01:48:46.000 It should be unthinkable.

01:48:48.000 Well, some things should be illegal, some things should be enforced, but we will work to make it so that certain things are unthinkable and we have a good family-friendly community where people work for each other, believe in each other, we respect individual liberties and rights, but we protect kids from predators.

01:49:03.000 Let's read more Super Chats. 0.87

01:49:06.000 I love it.

01:49:10.000 Well, we hope not to take your money, but we would love for the businesses on the platform to take your money, certainly.

01:49:19.000 We are definitely coming after Amazon.

01:49:21.000 That is our goal.

01:49:22.000 That's where we're going.

01:49:22.000 That's ultimately, in the long run, what we aspire to do, but not just by recreating the wheel and doing it the same way Amazon did it.

01:49:28.000 We actually have a few really key differentiating factors.

01:49:31.000 For example, the small business point we're talking about.

01:49:34.000 Amazon, the way they've structured it is that you only see the mega corporate entities that they want you to see, that they have 30% rev share deals with, so you never actually get to see organic small business exposure.

01:49:45.000 The other thing that's different is obviously that Amazon doesn't have any local functionality.

01:49:49.000 You don't have an ability to go pick up something from your community or for that to default there, which is a primary difference that we will always keep present.

01:49:56.000 The future of Public Square, similar to how you're describing this, is very community focused.

01:50:00.000 It has to be.

01:50:01.000 Otherwise, you're not really scratching the itch.

01:50:03.000 If you don't feel like you belong in a community because you need trust in a transaction, you're not going anywhere.

01:50:08.000 So we are definitely going after Amazon.

01:50:11.000 We're actually going public so we can be a company that's well-funded enough by the people with some special protections against activist investors, which is really exciting, so that we can be by the people, for the people, owned by we the people, and have that capital to be able to confront this.

01:50:24.000 This movement is very expensive.

01:50:25.000 People don't realize that.

01:50:27.000 Amazon has had billions of dollars to play with.

01:50:29.000 And so we are going after their power source.

01:50:31.000 We need people that agree with the principles of liberty and the foundational values that this country was built upon to actually shift their dollars toward companies that embrace those values.

01:50:41.000 And that has to also be capitalized.

01:50:43.000 The markets need to be democratized where we, the people, actually have investment opportunities for people to pour money into.

01:50:49.000 Because right now in the investment world, it's dominated by ESG and DEI.

01:50:52.000 So from that framework, we are absolutely going after Amazon.

01:50:55.000 And we got... When are you going public?

01:50:58.000 We expect to close here in the next month or so.

01:51:01.000 It's really exciting.

01:51:02.000 To go public and go to the Stock Exchange and everything?

01:51:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:51:04.000 Do the big banner drop?

01:51:05.000 The whole nine.

01:51:06.000 Wow.

01:51:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:51:08.000 We're partnered in a SPAC transaction.

01:51:09.000 So CLBR on the New York Stock Exchange is the SPAC we're partnered with.

01:51:13.000 So, that's the company that we're essentially taking over, and then we're the existing company on the Stock Exchange.

01:51:18.000 If you remember Rumble, same way that they went public.

01:51:21.000 So, D-SPAC transaction, and it's an incredible partnership, and it's a like-minded team that is wanting to take us public, and this will allow us to be a company that's not just funded by angel investors and accredited ones, which I love, but... Are you a billionaire yet?

01:51:36.000 No.

01:51:37.000 You're going to be a billionaire.

01:51:37.000 I'm very poor.

01:51:38.000 You're going to be a billionaire.

01:51:39.000 We're pouring everything into the company.

01:51:41.000 When I look at this, and I look at Bud Light, the Bud Light effect proves what you're doing is needed.

01:51:48.000 And let me read the Super Chat for you from Cam Cam.

01:51:50.000 He says, My wife was about to buy a new dress at Target.

01:51:53.000 After all of their pride, she went over to Public Square, got a whole new wardrobe.

01:51:57.000 Let's go!

01:51:58.000 That's awesome.

01:51:59.000 The stuff that we're seeing... This guy's complaining because you cost him a lot of money.

01:52:02.000 I know, I'm sorry!

01:52:03.000 Target was supposed to save you money by that boycott happening, but yeah.

01:52:07.000 Here's what happens first, people say, hey, don't go to Starbucks, boycott Starbucks, and they're like, where am I supposed to go?

01:52:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:52:11.000 I gotta be honest, like, I went to a small cafe, a local cafe, because I was like, I'm not gonna go to Starbucks, and I went in there, and I was like, I would like a cold brew with heavy cream, and they went, okay, and then, I kid you not, The lady pours the coffee, and then she takes the coffee around somewhat behind the counter where I can still see her, turns her back and does something, then walks back over with coffee.

01:52:34.000 I look at her and I'm like, that's half and half.

01:52:35.000 And then she's like, yeah.

01:52:38.000 And I was like, dude, come on.

01:52:39.000 You could have just told me you didn't have it.

01:52:41.000 I know that if I go to Starbucks, they've got everything.

01:52:45.000 And that's unfortunate.

01:52:46.000 Because I'm not a big fan.

01:52:47.000 I do like that Starbucks is going the capitalist route of being like, hey, we shouldn't do these decorations anymore because our customer is getting pissed.

01:52:53.000 That's a good thing.

01:52:55.000 So I'm of the mind to incentivize corporations to do the good thing.

01:52:58.000 So I'm not anti-Starbucks.

01:53:00.000 If they made that move, I think that's where you say like, hey, Starbucks, instead of they're all striking and trying to take money away from you.

01:53:05.000 I'm going to keep giving you money if you keep doing things that we like.

01:53:09.000 But what we need is What Public Square provides, an actual way to find what you're looking for.

01:53:15.000 When you're used to these big corporations, like Target, having what you need, it's hard to know.

01:53:20.000 How do you just go and find something?

01:53:21.000 Public Square created that directory.

01:53:23.000 Now it was easy for this guy's wife to go find a dress. 1.00

01:53:25.000 It's amazing.

01:53:26.000 It's so good to hear.

01:53:27.000 Another thing is like, all of the big corporations are already fed right to you.

01:53:32.000 I mean, if you Google something, or if you search for something, It's cool.

01:53:36.000 on the internet, it's probably gonna go through Google, it's probably gonna be powered by Google,

01:53:39.000 and it's probably gonna give you an option to buy it from Amazon automatically

01:53:44.000 without any kind of input from you.

01:53:46.000 So the ability to search is a big deal, you know?

01:53:50.000 Yeah.

01:53:51.000 It's cool, it would be really cool if we get to the point where the businesses that are super activist-y,

01:53:59.000 they're just, it's gonna get to the point where you're gonna go, you're gonna go on the app

01:54:02.000 and you're gonna find most businesses being like, we absolutely agree with this.

01:54:05.000 Because the average person does.

01:54:06.000 And then you're going to find these weirdo activist businesses struggling and going out of business like that one anti-cop cafe in Seattle, was it?

01:54:15.000 where they were like, they were saying defund the police or whatever.

01:54:19.000 And they wouldn't allow cops to even be served.

01:54:21.000 Right. And then because of the crime, they went out of business or something like that.

01:54:24.000 I was thinking about how there was a car dealership near us that suddenly there were no cars. And when

01:54:28.000 I looked it up, it was like, woman owned. It's like, this is a bad sign. 1.00

01:54:32.000 There was a communist coffee shop in Toronto where you could have your coffee free and it

01:54:35.000 was donation based and they didn't last nine months. But you're right.

01:54:39.000 I mean, part of our goal, too, is that what actually takes place is a total transformative shift from corporate entities that have made a bad bet on woke activism and ESG and DEI, and it actually totally dismantles those philosophies.

01:54:54.000 Because the goal, too, is that those companies wake up and realize, like, we took a bad bet.

01:54:58.000 Yep.

01:54:58.000 this was a bad move and the profits are moving not just because people yelled at them but because

01:55:02.000 they actually move with their feet and shifted their dollars elsewhere so stories like that

01:55:05.000 are amazing thank you for sharing that is absolutely the goal. Yep all right let's grab

01:55:10.000 some more super chats. Neglectful Sausage says imagine a state which not not only doesn't stop

01:55:17.000 but actively promotes child abusers who touch kids.

01:55:20.000 And you sit here and do nothing, just go, I'm outraged.

01:55:22.000 How is this different?

01:55:23.000 You won't stop this right now.

01:55:24.000 You're referring to me?

01:55:25.000 I'll tell you what we're doing.

01:55:27.000 We actually have people reaching out to the Attorney General.

01:55:29.000 We are absolutely taking this seriously where we have the ability to do so.

01:55:33.000 I don't live in these other states where this stuff's happening, so what am I supposed to do?

01:55:36.000 What am I going to New York?

01:55:37.000 Well, I don't know if it's directed at you, because states like New York with Kathy Hochul, And California are doing enough damage on their own, and they have enormous populations.

01:55:47.000 I know they lean blue, but surely someone in there should be trying to complain at some point.

01:55:52.000 Look, I went to the reps here in West Virginia, and I was like, I find it absurd that blue states have legalized social poker clubs, but West Virginia hasn't.

01:56:02.000 And they immediately were like, you're right.

01:56:05.000 Let's draft legislation and figure out how to make social poker clubs.

01:56:08.000 The only reason the action is being taken is because someone has to go to them and say, guys, I want action on this.

01:56:13.000 And they're gonna, if they agree, they agree.

01:56:14.000 I think there's a strong likelihood that The people we have reaching out to the local law enforcement about these issues, they're gonna be like, you're completely correct.

01:56:23.000 We're gonna navigate this.

01:56:25.000 What I believe will be likely to happen is we'll probably get a state level law specifically covering these things.

01:56:34.000 Instead of being like, we're going to apply what they're doing to an existing law, they'll probably want to say, let's, from this point forward, say we put an end to it.

01:56:42.000 Because that's typically the easier legal thing to do without starting a bunch of fights.

01:56:46.000 But we'll see.

01:56:47.000 Because I think the laws already have it, but you'll get the arguments like, oh, that cohabitation law is ridiculous, nobody would ever enforce something like that, even though it does cover open lewdness in public.

01:56:59.000 We'll see what happens.

01:57:01.000 Nathan sees as Karl Marx had an incestuous relationship with his daughter Evelyn.

01:57:05.000 She committed suicide when he remarried.

01:57:07.000 His other children died from neglect.

01:57:09.000 Is that true?

01:57:10.000 Looks to Phil.

01:57:11.000 I mean, Phil's the one who's always talking about Marx.

01:57:13.000 Yeah, you know the philosophers.

01:57:14.000 Well, I didn't even hear that.

01:57:15.000 I'm sorry, what was that?

01:57:16.000 Karl Marx had an incestuous relationship with his daughter, Evelyn.

01:57:19.000 Uh, there's a lot of things about Karl Marx that I've heard.

01:57:22.000 I've heard incestuous relationships. 0.93

01:57:24.000 I've heard that he had issues with, like, boils because he didn't wash.

01:57:28.000 I heard he constantly was asking for money from people.

01:57:33.000 These are all things that I hear from people that tend to not be partial towards Marx, so I don't know how Accurate they are, but I mean they're fun to talk about.

01:57:41.000 It could be that it's just so old that the marks still stay.

01:57:44.000 Still have the collagen to bounce back?

01:57:46.000 with CPAP needs to be worn at night and during naps. Marks disappear after a quick face wash.

01:57:51.000 This is more than CPAP." It could be that it's just so old that the marks just stay.

01:57:56.000 It's just not the collagen to bounce back. Yeah. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, because

01:58:00.000 some people are like, no, those straps are CPAP straps.

01:58:02.000 Yes, I know they are.

01:58:03.000 My point is, they are trying to hide that he's on oxygen.

01:58:07.000 I'm not saying he is on oxygen.

01:58:08.000 I'm saying I don't believe them.

01:58:10.000 They lie so often.

01:58:12.000 I would not be surprised if they said, look, if we do the typical method of putting the oxygen tubing in, then people are going to notice.

01:58:19.000 Let's do a CPAP machine and claim it's just sleep apnea.

01:58:22.000 It's not a big deal.

01:58:23.000 Yeah.

01:58:23.000 Which, this means he, it's implying, I know that photo was, you know, early in the morning,

01:58:27.000 presumably it would be like you wore it at night, but then he has these marks throughout the day,

01:58:31.000 then are you implying that he's napping throughout the day?

01:58:34.000 Like, that also doesn't look good.

01:58:36.000 None of these options are good.

01:58:37.000 The IV marks on his hand.

01:58:39.000 Yeah. Yeah, I bet it's so much that it's bruised up.

01:58:43.000 Once a week, I'd bet.

01:58:44.000 Well, remember during the debates, they had the... Remember you saw the cord that came out of his wrist?

01:58:49.000 Remember this?

01:58:50.000 What was it connected to?

01:58:51.000 Really?

01:58:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:58:52.000 There was that picture that got leaked of this little cord that looked like a tube that was coming out of his sleeve right here.

01:58:58.000 They had him on an IV drip while he was debating?

01:59:00.000 How else do you keep him awake for two and a half hours?

01:59:03.000 I bet, I bet NAD.

01:59:04.000 I bet they're nicotinamide and I bet they're nucleotide.

01:59:06.000 Oh yeah, NAD IV treatments, yeah.

01:59:08.000 So it's got like B vitamins and stuff in it and it's rejuvenating.

01:59:12.000 Yeah, people are doing it.

01:59:13.000 It's expensive.

01:59:14.000 A lot of people do it.

01:59:15.000 You're tax dollars.

01:59:16.000 Joe Rogan, I don't think he does it anymore.

01:59:18.000 Now he takes the NMN, I think.

01:59:22.000 Someone told me he mentioned on his show that he doesn't do NAD, but he used to do, I think Charlie Kirk swears by it as well.

01:59:27.000 Yep.

01:59:27.000 You know Biden's doing it.

01:59:28.000 I think Hunter gives 10% of his crack cocaine to the big guy.

01:59:32.000 That's what keeps him.

01:59:33.000 While he's sitting next to him.

01:59:34.000 Sprinkling it into cereal.

01:59:36.000 Texting him 100% for the big guy.

01:59:39.000 Alright, alright.

01:59:39.000 We got one more here.

01:59:40.000 One more here.

01:59:41.000 SamuraiEAC says, I got my company on Public Square.

01:59:44.000 We're the largest direct-to-civilian body armor manufacturer in the U.S.

01:59:47.000 Let's go.

01:59:48.000 We changed the market.

01:59:49.000 Our company mission is to glorify the Christ by equipping the free men of the United States with tools of liberty.

01:59:54.000 Wow.

01:59:54.000 What a mission statement.

01:59:55.000 I feel like these men have so much fun writing these mission statements.

01:59:58.000 Like, they're powerful.

01:59:59.000 They're cool.

02:00:00.000 Yeah, when we were writing this, I was like, we need to hit these points.

02:00:03.000 This is what it's all about.

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02:00:33.000 Actually, businesses that like you.

02:00:34.000 Businesses that like you, yes.

02:00:36.000 It's really refreshing.

02:00:37.000 Not everybody hates us.

02:00:38.000 We have a whole community of folks that don't.

02:00:40.000 Right on.

02:00:40.000 It's pretty awesome.

02:00:41.000 Are you on the internet?

02:00:41.000 Do you want people to follow you?

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02:00:46.000 The first four letters of my last name on Twitter, and then at Real Michael Seifert on Instagram.

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02:01:00.000 As you heard tonight, you can see our on-the-ground reporting and see stories from me, from Chris Burtman, from a bunch of other great people.

02:01:07.000 I recorded with Seamus for two hours today for his podcast, Shamers.

02:01:10.000 It's on Rumble.

02:01:11.000 At the end of it, he told me, you make me want to rethink the First Amendment.

02:01:16.000 So I think that's interesting.

02:01:17.000 Go watch it tomorrow.

02:01:20.000 That's a heck of a tease.

02:01:21.000 Yeah.

02:01:21.000 I don't know, man.

02:01:23.000 I think I'm interesting on Rebel.

02:01:25.000 No, I'm just kidding.

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02:01:31.000 Thank you so much.

02:01:32.000 I am Phil Labonte.

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02:01:45.000 That was a good one, guys.

02:01:47.000 Always good to see you, Michael.

02:01:48.000 Good to see you.

02:01:48.000 Thank you.

02:01:49.000 Yeah, let's get to the after show.

02:01:51.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple minutes.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 28, 2023

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