Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - CNBC Host Calls For Military To Enforce National Vax Mandate w-Rav Arora

00:00:00.000 the world.

00:00:14.000 In a long tirade, he called for the military to run government-enforced mandatory vaccinations.

00:00:23.000 It was pretty intense.

00:00:24.000 This was not some light thing like, maybe we should have the military come out and, you know, offer up people services.

00:00:28.000 No, no.

00:00:28.000 He was like, everybody should be forced to do it.

00:00:30.000 And if you don't want to do it, go to court and then file your conscientious objector status and we'll have the military run it.

00:00:39.000 Fauci came out and he said, it's time, you know, he said, we might not have to lockdown, but prepare for the worst.

00:00:46.000 When asked, he said, we're going to have lockdowns.

00:00:47.000 Don't worry, it'll be temporary.

00:00:49.000 And Joe Biden said, lockdowns will not be necessary.

00:00:53.000 For now.

00:00:54.000 If everyone gets the vaccine and wears their masks.

00:00:57.000 So I'll make this prediction.

00:00:58.000 You know, I don't like making predictions because the internet loses their minds when I do.

00:01:02.000 And I, I'm just, you know, sometimes wrong.

00:01:05.000 But how about this?

00:01:06.000 I think we're going to see lockdowns again.

00:01:08.000 I think Omicron is here.

00:01:10.000 It's been reported in San Francisco.

00:01:12.000 I think we're going to see lockdowns.

00:01:14.000 I think it's going to be mostly in blue states.

00:01:16.000 I certainly think Florida and Texas are going to say, shove off.

00:01:18.000 But I think New York, California, Illinois, many of these blue states are going to come out and they're going to be like, we've got to do it again. 0.91

00:01:25.000 And I would not be surprised if the governors of these states then kill more elderly people. 0.77

00:01:29.000 We talked about the HOPE experiment. 0.88

00:01:33.000 What was the guy's name?

00:01:34.000 Carl Richter or something?

00:01:36.000 He basically put rats in a cylinder full of water and within 15 minutes they give up, they can't swim, they die.

00:01:44.000 Then he did another experiment where he took them out just before they drown, dries them off, put them back in.

00:01:49.000 The second time, because of hope, they swam for I think 60 hours was the total.

00:01:54.000 They wouldn't give up because they believed this hand might come and save me again.

00:01:58.000 So I've been saying for a while, now that they've reduced the lockdowns, they'll come back and they'll come back substantially worse.

00:02:05.000 So we're going to talk about all that.

00:02:07.000 We got a cool group here.

00:02:08.000 We got Rav here.

00:02:08.000 You want to introduce yourself, man?

00:02:10.000 Yeah, I'm a journalist, mostly writing for the New York Post and other outlets as well, writing about COVID, mandates, crime, identity politics, but lately a lot about COVID and mandates and young people especially, the side effects that young people are facing and the risks with mandating vaccines for school children and all of what's happening right now in Europe and across North America.

00:02:32.000 Right on, man.

00:02:32.000 Thanks for coming.

00:02:33.000 We got a lot to talk about.

00:02:34.000 We got Luke.

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00:03:07.000 I think a lot about if I didn't have the knowledge of what Nazis and what the Nazis had done, that this would be a totally different experience.

00:03:13.000 If I didn't know that this is actually, not this particularly, but it has happened in the past where they genially put you on a train and take you somewhere to relocate.

00:03:21.000 Ian, wait until you find out what the communists did.

00:03:24.000 And hold on, too.

00:03:25.000 There's a really great quote.

00:03:27.000 What the Nazis did was legal. 0.99

00:03:29.000 Yeah.

00:03:30.000 What Schindler and other people did trying to protect Jews was illegal.

00:03:34.000 What they did was against the law.

00:03:35.000 What the United States did to the Japanese with the internment camps was legal. 0.99

00:03:40.000 What the communists did, they all justify it. 0.70

00:03:42.000 So let's make sure we don't confuse legality with morality.

00:03:45.000 Exactly.

00:03:46.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:03:47.000 Yeah, so I'm really excited for this evening because the talk about lockdowns again, talk about this new variant is really distressing.

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00:05:43.000 Joe Biden, be quiet.

00:05:45.000 I am offended that Joe Biden started talking right as I'm trying to start this segment.

00:05:49.000 We're going to mute that.

00:05:50.000 Get out of here, Joe.

00:05:51.000 CNBC host suggests nationwide vaccine mandate.

00:05:56.000 Have the military run it.

00:05:57.000 I really love this story from the Hill because Jim Cramer didn't suggest anything.

00:06:02.000 He demanded it.

00:06:03.000 He didn't say, maybe we, you know, we have a national vaccine mandate.

00:06:06.000 No, he was literally like, this is on the White House and Biden.

00:06:09.000 Everyone's got to do this.

00:06:11.000 And if you don't, you go to court and try and prove your objector status.

00:06:14.000 And it's it's rather crazy.

00:06:16.000 We have this tweet here with this video.

00:06:16.000 I'll jump right to this.

00:06:18.000 I'll jump right to the end.

00:06:20.000 So you can hear him get to the having the military run this thing.

00:06:23.000 Nobody wants to be the bad guy.

00:06:25.000 He's the bad guy.

00:06:26.000 But back then, anyone who refused to get vaccinated would get ratted out immediately because we knew that person could hurt other people.

00:06:33.000 The commonweal was a commonweal. 0.65

00:06:37.000 Now we're engaged in a similar struggle with COVID.

00:06:39.000 What was that?

00:06:39.000 He needs to breathe.

00:06:41.000 No, the way he's slurring his speech, I'm actually wondering... Massive throat and neck tension.

00:06:46.000 Oh, that's true too.

00:06:50.000 Let's play it.

00:06:51.000 Eisenhower would be aghast.

00:06:53.000 We have immunocompromised people who are incubators for every variant to come, walking around lawfully unvaccinated?

00:07:00.000 That's psychotic.

00:07:02.000 We have companies that have tried hard to get people vaccinated and now backing down. 0.90

00:07:06.000 We have governors who want to be president by grandstanding on a foolish state's right issue, the right to get sick and get other people sick.

00:07:12.000 So it's time to admit that we have to go to war against COVID.

00:07:16.000 Require vaccination universally.

00:07:17.000 Have the military run it.

00:07:19.000 If you don't want to get vaccinated, you better be ready to prove your conscientious objector status in court.

00:07:26.000 You know, I gotta say, he's slurring pretty crazy. 1.00

00:07:30.000 Yeah, that's really good.

00:07:31.000 I mean, totally, as an aside, I'm not trying to say this disrespectfully, that weird circular wheel, what was he saying?

00:07:37.000 I don't know, dude.

00:07:38.000 Compared to two years ago, you're totally right.

00:07:40.000 I haven't watched him in a long time.

00:07:41.000 And he's reading a teleprompter.

00:07:44.000 But the way he said objector, I feel like, I gotta be honest, I thought he was having a stroke.

00:07:52.000 Like the way he started slurring and losing it.

00:07:52.000 No joke, no joke.

00:07:55.000 But anyway, to the point of his politics.

00:07:57.000 It's a bunch of crazy stuff.

00:07:59.000 We'll have the military run it.

00:08:01.000 Just throw it out there.

00:08:02.000 We just have the military take control and go marshal.

00:08:05.000 Like, it's crazy the casualty that he spoke with there.

00:08:09.000 And it makes absolutely no sense, by the way, like segregating between unvaccinated and vaccinated when we know that there are several studies showing that the vaccine efficacy Last about six, seven months against infection.

00:08:22.000 And so after about six, seven months, a vaccinated person is just as likely to get infected and transmit COVID as an infected person, as a, as an unvaccinated person.

00:08:33.000 Several studies show this.

00:08:34.000 So mandating the stuff makes no sense because then you're going to have a group of people that has the same level of infection and transmission rates after a certain amount of months.

00:08:43.000 So it's, it's just a matter of buying us time.

00:08:45.000 So, yeah, so, I mean, obviously you've been talking about boosters for a long time.

00:08:49.000 And it's weird because you have, like, there was a period where if you said the efficacy was waning, you'd get banned on social media.

00:08:57.000 Dave Rubin being a great example where he tweeted out, you know, it's not working the way they promised and sooner or later they're going to call for boosters.

00:09:04.000 And he got suspended on Twitter for it.

00:09:05.000 And now, sure enough, they've already been saying, I think in Israel, they're on shot number five.

00:09:11.000 Number five which needs to be mandated a part of their ... digital vaccine passport social credit score system ... that they implemented in that country which is absolutely ... absurd Jim Cramer here just proved how much of an ... establishment hack he is he's a Bear Stearns shill showing ... off his best bootlicking on national television which is ... embarrassing for this country I mean.

00:09:32.000 It's psychotic behavior he wants to throw people in jail ... in court and have the military men who are used to ... fighting armies force people to take a medication that might ... not be right for them that might hurt them that some ... medical professionals are telling some individuals based ... on their own medical history that they can't take I mean are ... you freaking kidding me.

00:09:52.000 And again, Jim Cramer, maybe I don't know, maybe he was trying to boost up a big pharma stocks by doing this.

00:09:58.000 I don't know what he was thinking, but I don't trust this man's financial advice, especially when it came to Bear Stearns.

00:10:04.000 I didn't trust his financial advice when it came to Bitcoin.

00:10:06.000 When he announced he sold Most of his Bitcoin on June 21st of this year, Bitcoin was about $32,000.

00:10:14.000 Bitcoin right now is about $57,000.

00:10:16.000 So his financial advice hasn't been there. 1.00

00:10:21.000 His social critique and political involvement now is full fascistic and as dangerous as it is stupid, in my opinion. 1.00

00:10:30.000 Maybe you're right. 0.99

00:10:31.000 I mean, so Jim Cramer's show is like stock show.

00:10:33.000 He talks about finances.

00:10:34.000 We got the story from Barron's.

00:10:36.000 This is from today.

00:10:37.000 Moderna stock tanks after losing a patent dispute.

00:10:40.000 Here's what comes next.

00:10:41.000 I don't really care what comes next.

00:10:42.000 Moderna dropped 10%.

00:10:44.000 Now this is today.

00:10:46.000 That speech he gave was from Monday.

00:10:48.000 But maybe you're a guy who's talking finance.

00:10:51.000 Maybe you're a guy who gives bad advice.

00:10:53.000 And maybe you use your show to try and push and pump and dump and things like that.

00:10:57.000 I'm not saying he does, but I mean it's possible yeah well the Moderna stock went down because the CEO came out a few days ago and said that the vaccine doesn't have that good effectiveness when it comes to this new Omicron variant allegedly and as soon as he said that the stocks go down he soon came after that statement and made another statement saying that we need

00:11:19.000 Double booster shots in order to successfully fight this new Omicron variant, which just appeared in the United States from a fully vaccinated person in San Francisco, California.

00:11:32.000 Okay, hold on.

00:11:32.000 You're jumping the gun here, Luke.

00:11:34.000 You're jumping the gun.

00:11:35.000 Barron's reporting the stock fell because a federal circuit court of appeals, a panel of three judges, upheld a ruling against the biotech company in a decision on patents that our beautis bio pharma set it owns the patents in

00:11:47.000 question regard lipid nanoparticles which are used to deliver m rna to sell safely which

00:11:51.000 basically means if you've got stock in moderna they don't own the rights to that product and i can

00:11:57.000 only imagine they're gonna have to pay out some kind of portion of their revenue to the rights

00:12:02.000 holder on this regard yeah that plus two judges now ruling against biden's vaccine mandate plus his

00:12:09.000 latest statements all of course are having a kind of crescendo moment and also with the federal

00:12:14.000 reserve screaming saying hey this is going to hurt us financially with this new variant no no no

00:12:20.000 no no no The Federal Reserve printing money out of thin air is going to hurt us financially, as they're the ones causing inflation, as they're the ones causing the larger economic problems.

00:12:27.000 And they're trying to blame it on this new variant, Omnicron variant, which again, we're still learning about all the details.

00:12:33.000 Omnicron? 0.70

00:12:34.000 Whatever they call it.

00:12:35.000 Is that Joe Biden's version?

00:12:36.000 Yeah, are you choosing Joe Biden's version?

00:12:38.000 What the president says is gospel, and we should always trust and believe him no matter what.

00:12:38.000 Yes, yes.

00:12:42.000 I would love to rename it to Omnicron.

00:12:44.000 Let's just call it Omnicron.

00:12:44.000 That's great.

00:12:45.000 We might as well.

00:12:46.000 I mean, Biden's the authority on this, isn't he?

00:12:48.000 Yeah.

00:12:49.000 He's not a withered husk of his former self.

00:12:51.000 No, he's the president. 0.70

00:12:52.000 He doesn't have metal stints inside of his brain holding up major blood clots.

00:12:52.000 Yeah.

00:12:56.000 This idea, by the way, that new variants are going to come and they're going to lead to more booster shots was considered to be absolute conspiracy at the beginning of the pandemic.

00:13:03.000 It was, this is a two-shot vaccine.

00:13:06.000 And I don't know if you guys saw on Twitter, Eric Topol, the big medical expert that the left often uses as Somebody who's reliable for this information.

00:13:14.000 He came out yesterday with a tweet saying this is a three-shot vaccine and he's considered like the one of the biggest most reliable experts on vaccines.

00:13:22.000 There's one story I was looking at recently by the way, which shows how ineffective vaccines are against infection.

00:13:28.000 The Ottawa Senators and NHL hockey team 100% vaccination rate and now 40% of the team just tested positive for COVID.

00:13:36.000 Well, so the issue is, are we dealing with variants that the vaccines struggle to deal with?

00:13:46.000 I've heard varying opinions.

00:13:47.000 I have heard that because of Delta and Omicron that these are new variants and the vaccine have a limited coverage for the various pathogens that they attempt to protect against.

00:13:57.000 I've no idea how the biological mechanism works, but it's absolutely objectively true that the protection against infection is completely short-lived.

00:14:06.000 It's only a few months.

00:14:07.000 Well, let's make sure we have that distinction, right?

00:14:08.000 So to say the vaccines aren't working, well, hold on.

00:14:12.000 The issue is they don't work long enough.

00:14:14.000 Yes.

00:14:15.000 And that's not... I'm going to say, oh no, they work forever.

00:14:19.000 Go talk to your doctor because they work forever.

00:14:21.000 I'm kidding, by the way.

00:14:22.000 My point is, if you have all of the mainstream media coming out and saying the efficacy is waning and now you need three shots, a booster is your fourth shot, it's Fauci, it's the Moderna CEOs, the guys who are saying you need more boosters.

00:14:36.000 Not us.

00:14:37.000 The narrative that they are pushing in that capacity then is breaking confidence in the advocacy of the vaccines.

00:14:42.000 So what I said, you know, when we saw LeBron James double vaxxed, gets COVID.

00:14:50.000 New York Daily News wrote in the first sentence, not even the king is immune to COVID-19.

00:14:57.000 And I was like, he was vaccinated!

00:15:00.000 So when they said that, it was a really weird cognitive dissonance, I think, for regular people, because people call vaccines immunization.

00:15:08.000 Right?

00:15:08.000 Yeah.

00:15:09.000 They would be like, did you get immunized from, you know, this or whatever, or did you go to, you gotta get, you got immunized from yellow fever.

00:15:14.000 When I went and got my vaccines for going to Venezuela, they said it was getting immunized.

00:15:17.000 It was synonymous.

00:15:18.000 Yeah.

00:15:19.000 And maybe it's a colloquial thing, like, oh, we don't think it's a guarantee it'll prevent yellow fever or hep or something like that.

00:15:19.000 Yeah.

00:15:25.000 But if LeBron James got the vaccine as he was supposed to do it, and he still gets it, and Dan Bongino gets the vaccine because he, you know, he had lymphoma and then he still gets it.

00:15:33.000 The problem is, All of your data goes out the window.

00:15:36.000 This is why I'm always just like, go talk to a doctor, man.

00:15:39.000 I don't want, I don't want liability from anybody making decisions off of, you know, I'm not going to give advice on this.

00:15:43.000 But the issue then is people will be bewildered.

00:15:47.000 What are you supposed to do when you have a news story coming out, literally, LeBron James fully vaxxed, gets COVID.

00:15:53.000 Dan Mangino fully vaxxed, gets COVID.

00:15:54.000 Who are the politicians who got it and they were fully vaxxed?

00:15:57.000 We keep having these high-profile stories.

00:15:58.000 And as you pointed out, what did you say, 40% of the NHL?

00:16:01.000 40% of the Ottawa Senators, a top NHL team, just tested positive for COVID, even though 100% of the team is vaccinated.

00:16:09.000 And if you talk to top medical experts like Like, in my writing, when I talk about COVID, I have to be very careful.

00:16:15.000 Like, when I try to publish stuff, if I don't back it up with expert opinion, with trained experts, then it becomes an issue.

00:16:21.000 But it's worth mentioning, by the way, when we're talking about vaccines, that the protection against death remains durable after several months.

00:16:31.000 It's the protection against infection that is very short-lived.

00:16:36.000 Well still there's a lot of the science that we haven't figured out and there's a lot of different political beliefs but when we have you know large medical institutions along with Dr. Fauci coming out from the very beginning of this and saying 100% safe and effective just do this one time and everything will go back to normal.

00:16:52.000 That doesn't build trust.

00:16:54.000 That doesn't build anyone who's going to willingly now be like, OK, yeah, sure, I'll believe you this time or this time.

00:17:00.000 And they did it to themselves.

00:17:02.000 They created a situation where it's very hard to believe anything coming out of their mouth because it keeps changing.

00:17:07.000 And if it does, you have to admit it's changed.

00:17:10.000 You have to take accountability.

00:17:11.000 You have to take responsibility for your words, and they haven't been doing any of that.

00:17:15.000 Dr. Fauci is afraid of doing any kind of interviews with anyone who even views any kind of different political circumstance differently than he does.

00:17:24.000 And if he's the nation's doctor, he's not supposed to be political, but he's been political from the very beginning.

00:17:29.000 He was saying Black Lives Matter protests are great. 0.97

00:17:32.000 Anti-lockdown protests, bad.

00:17:34.000 They're causing the spread.

00:17:35.000 Black Lives Matter protests are the ones that are slowing the spread.

00:17:38.000 And again, you can't have Both, and they've been changing the definitions of vaccines, they've been changing the definitions of herd immunity, and I think it's important for all of us to admit we don't know what's going on here. 0.98

00:17:48.000 I'm not a medical professional, I'm not a medical doctor, we're not here giving medical advice, but at the same time we're here to tell you everyone who's telling you that they know exactly what's happening here is full of crap. 0.95

00:17:57.000 I think that's a great point.

00:17:59.000 What I said, I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a doctor, I can't give you advice on that, but I am an expert in freedom.

00:18:07.000 And I think one of the issues that we fall into is to be careful.

00:18:11.000 There should not be government-mandated medical procedures.

00:18:14.000 That's about it.

00:18:15.000 And you wanna come to me and say, Jim Cramer, he's like, oh, but we have this reason and that reason.

00:18:19.000 I'm like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.

00:18:20.000 Government ain't gonna tell me what medical procedures I gotta have.

00:18:23.000 Because you have to think about what it means philosophically if we move to a point where the government can mandate any of this by force.

00:18:30.000 Okay, well, you know, people who have Neuralink, cybernetic implants, Have an advantage.

00:18:37.000 Ah, here's a better one.

00:18:39.000 People who have the Verichip implant.

00:18:41.000 Well, it's safer.

00:18:43.000 Because when they get stopped by police, the police don't have to search for ID.

00:18:46.000 When they get pulled over, their ID's right with them.

00:18:49.000 We will reduce crime and end the crime pandemic if everyone just gets their Verichip.

00:18:54.000 Get that chip injected into your hand.

00:18:56.000 What happens when a criminal gets stopped and he gives a false name?

00:18:59.000 Crime gets worse.

00:19:00.000 We can't give the government the ability to just say, here's the medical procedure you have to undergo because it's going to help make you safer or save lives.

00:19:08.000 That's it.

00:19:08.000 One of the worst examples of this, by the way, recently, I don't know if you heard about this, 44,000 students in LA are about to lose their right to have in-person education because they missed the vaccine deadline.

00:19:19.000 Yeah, in Los Angeles, the LA Times reported on this.

00:19:22.000 44,000 students now are about to move to online schooling only because they didn't get vaccinated.

00:19:28.000 That sounds like a great reset.

00:19:30.000 Huh.

00:19:30.000 Okay, so this is where we are in the United States, with Jim Cramer saying he wants the military to enforce this.

00:19:41.000 Let's talk about what that'll look like.

00:19:43.000 And the biggest thing you need to be worried about, my friends, are the propagandists.

00:19:48.000 I can only tell you this.

00:19:50.000 We use a wonderful little product called NewsGuard.

00:19:54.000 And I've been criticized for using it because, uh, who funds it, Luke?

00:19:57.000 Bill Gates.

00:19:57.000 Bill Gates!

00:19:59.000 Oh, heavens!

00:20:00.000 Bill Gates provides funding.

00:20:01.000 It's through Microsoft, right?

00:20:03.000 Or is it him directly?

00:20:04.000 I don't know.

00:20:04.000 Uh, I'm not sure.

00:20:05.000 I think it's Microsoft.

00:20:06.000 So, uh, so I use this on purpose as sort of, uh, to make a point.

00:20:11.000 If I use a news source that makes a claim, and then I highlight that claim and you accuse me of being fake news, I just say, oh, don't look at me, ask Bill Gates, right?

00:20:19.000 Uh-oh, are they the conspiracy theorists now?

00:20:22.000 Here's a story we have from The Guardian.

00:20:24.000 Northern Territory police arrest three people who escaped from Howard Springs COVID quarantine facility.

00:20:31.000 Trio allegedly jumped the fence at the open air center near Darwin early on Wednesday.

00:20:36.000 You want to know what the best part is?

00:20:39.000 Do you know what the name of the Howard... Do you know what type of facility the Howard Springs facility is?

00:20:44.000 It's like a... No, no, give me the exact statement.

00:20:48.000 No hyperbole.

00:20:49.000 Literally, what is the Howard Springs facility?

00:20:52.000 Anybody?

00:20:53.000 Summer camp?

00:20:54.000 I don't know.

00:20:55.000 No.

00:20:55.000 Nope.

00:20:55.000 That's nothing.

00:20:56.000 What has the Australian government called it? You guys don't know this? No, no, no, no, no, no,

00:20:56.000 I don't know.

00:21:03.000 they call it a quarantine camp. I didn't think that was very difficult. But I guess you guys

00:21:06.000 didn't know. They're now calling it the Center for National Resilience. What? Police and staff

00:21:12.000 at the Center for National Resilience. Oh, I'm sorry. That's probably I probably got that wrong.

00:21:17.000 That's probably just where they're doing the investigation from. The police and staff at

00:21:21.000 the Center for National Resilience are currently confirming the absconders identities prior to

00:21:26.000 to releasing further information.

00:21:28.000 They say it's a large open-air facility for quarantining people.

00:21:33.000 The alleged escape.

00:21:34.000 The absconders. 1.00

00:21:36.000 So there are people being brought to these facilities.

00:21:40.000 Voluntarily?

00:21:41.000 Is it voluntary?

00:21:42.000 Well, they're not able to leave voluntarily, apparently.

00:21:42.000 Do we know?

00:21:44.000 It doesn't look voluntarily.

00:21:46.000 If they have to escape, then there's not a voluntary exit strategy.

00:21:50.000 Well, that I know of.

00:21:52.000 So let's get into the propagandists.

00:21:55.000 This one's a little too personal for me.

00:21:56.000 I've been harping on this for a minute, but I want to make this very concise for you guys, so you can understand what's going on in Australia.

00:22:03.000 I have this series of tweets that break down what's happening in Australia very simply.

00:22:07.000 I said, don't forget, if the chief minister says you can't leave your home even to get food, thanks the army for their trucks used to transport COVID suspects, and you get arrested if you try to leave the camp, Jesse Singal and Quillette say it's a conspiracy theory.

00:22:23.000 So here we go.

00:22:24.000 Here's one article.

00:22:26.000 Under that lockdown, residents could only leave home for five reasons, including essential shopping, essential work, providing or receiving care, exercise, and obtaining medical treatment.

00:22:34.000 Gunnar has announced, Binjari and Rockhole residents now cannot leave.

00:22:39.000 Their homes unless for medical reasons or in an emergency.

00:22:42.000 That means you can't leave for food.

00:22:44.000 We have this from Grabian.

00:22:46.000 Chief Minister Gunner, the army is now transferring positive COVID cases and contacts in Northern Territory Australia to quarantine camps by army trucks.

00:22:54.000 And finally, NT police arrest three people who escaped from Howard Springs COVID quarantine facility.

00:23:00.000 The propaganda and those supporting the state narrative in this regard is probably the scariest thing to me because what ended up happening today was Jesse Singel wrote this entirely fabricated story about me claiming that I was like a conspiracy theorist or something based on my tweets literally quoting abc.net.au which is to say 38 people were transported by army truck to the quarantine facilities.

00:23:25.000 I never said by with guns drawn or by force or anything like that.

00:23:29.000 He then writes this big article that's completely fake, seemingly just to kind of discredit me.

00:23:34.000 Now, of course, I know that's personal, and I take emotional issue with it, but I decided to put together these three sources, which I included the links to all of these stories on Twitter, and surprise, surprise, many people didn't know this was real.

00:23:49.000 So a lot of people engaging in the Twitter spat I had with Jesse see these three stories, and their response immediately was, no way that's real.

00:23:58.000 Because if you read these propaganda stories from like Quillette or Jesse, you'd think I made it up.

00:24:03.000 When in fact, it's all NewsGuard certified sources.

00:24:05.000 In Australia, they have police and military setting up checkpoints and locking down people in their homes.

00:24:12.000 The chief minister has said, you cannot leave your home for the normal lockdown reasons, meaning no food.

00:24:20.000 He then said, I'd like to thank the Prime Minister for the ADF personnel and army trucks to transport the suspected cases and close contacts to the Howard Springs facility.

00:24:31.000 All of that was said from his mouth.

00:24:35.000 I feel like coulette is kind of going the way of the mainstream media, which is a little bit troubling.

00:24:41.000 And I think it's a really good reminder that we need to be incredibly critical of all of our sources, even if we think that they're mostly or some percentage in agreement with us ideologically.

00:24:51.000 It's also pretty terrifying what's happening in Australia where the government previously disarmed the citizenry.

00:24:57.000 Very interestingly, no one's really bringing up how gun confiscation worked really well in Australia anymore.

00:25:02.000 I remember hearing about that a few months ago.

00:25:04.000 I don't hear about that right now.

00:25:07.000 Ain't nobody in Australia would take up arms against what's going on.

00:25:10.000 Probably, but still I think it's a factor worth considering here.

00:25:13.000 But when it came to these three escapees, I remember seeing a news report showing how police officers were closing down roads and inspecting every single vehicle Searching everyone's cars to make sure that no one was hiding trying to make these people get away from the larger area so they they caught these people but but this is this is again absolutely huge powers that the government is granting itself in the name of a tragedy that that of course has historically gone down with people exploiting

00:25:47.000 Really bad events for their own personal powers and the ... powers that they have in Australia.

00:25:51.000 I mean the authorities there have rushed through laws ... that give them the ability to control people's social media ... accounts to hack their accounts to see everything that ... they're doing to deny them the ability to be able to walk ... into businesses heavy fines for not wearing a mask heavy ... fines for going to protest jail time for people organizing ...

00:26:12.000 And when you when you're seeing human rights eviscerated ... to such extent where you can't even voice an opinion ... against the government without having the government ... knocking on your door saying we want to control your social ... media we now have the ability to post as you when we want we ... have the ability to know every little detail about your life ... that is a dangerous.

00:26:31.000 Power that you have given the government that of course it routinely historically always abuses

00:26:38.000 I want to give a special shout outs to Quillette and to Jesse single too because if there's one thing they

00:26:42.000 accomplished in making up Fake stories about me or lying is that they've just gotten

00:26:46.000 me to cover the issue in greater detail more and more So I mean it look it was initially I tweeted

00:26:53.000 Concentration camp in reference to Howard Springs is kind of like a jokey trolly thing and Claire decided to go nuts

00:26:59.000 on it So I doubled down and now we're at the point where I've

00:27:02.000 covered this in great detail and it's only getting worse Now there's manhunts for people who are escaping

00:27:08.000 from this, uh, quarantine facility.

00:27:11.000 And, uh, and Jesse decides to write a completely fabricated narrative about me based on a tweet without doing any research.

00:27:19.000 That's the, that's the funniest thing about it.

00:27:21.000 And in turn, I obviously get mad about it.

00:27:23.000 And then we cover the story in greater detail.

00:27:26.000 Once again, simplifying that in Australia, they are rounding people up with the assistance of the military and the chief minister is thanking them for the assistance, sending them to a camp where they're trying to escape.

00:27:37.000 Do you think, is Claire in Australia right now?

00:27:40.000 So is she in a position now where she got online and was like, you're right, Tim, what the government's doing here is horrible.

00:27:40.000 Yes, she is.

00:27:45.000 Would they come knocking on her door?

00:27:48.000 Yeah, of course.

00:27:48.000 Yeah, probably.

00:27:50.000 I mean, there's incredible videos showing police officers showing up at people's doors, banging, demanding, saying, did you post this on the internet?

00:28:00.000 Were you here at this protest?

00:28:02.000 Did you dare have a voice against the state?

00:28:06.000 Intimidating people harassing people not just protesters journalists like uh, what's his name?

00:28:12.000 Yemi.

00:28:13.000 Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, uh, Avi Avi Avi's been doing really incredible work.

00:28:13.000 Uh, I forgot it.

00:28:19.000 He had police show up at his door He's routinely detained for even trying to report on these protests as an official member of the press so when you have You know, intimidation of journalism.

00:28:31.000 When you have the suppression of people's voices, when you have the suppression of protests, when you have the suppression of people's speech, you have a situation that is absolutely Orwellian, destructive, dangerous, and the opposite of anything progressive that anyone could even imagine.

00:28:46.000 You want to know what the best part is about these three people who escaped?

00:28:49.000 They were teenagers, and they had tested negative.

00:28:52.000 The Australian government took three teenagers from the Benjari community, brought them to a quarantine facility when they were negative for COVID, tested them, they were negative, and then when these three teens escaped, the police were sent out to investigate, hunt them down, and arrest them.

00:29:07.000 Set up roadblocks!

00:29:08.000 Set up roadblocks!

00:29:09.000 Why are they there though?

00:29:11.000 If they're negative.

00:29:12.000 They were near someone.

00:29:13.000 I have to wonder about the Australian government bringing people without COVID to a quarantine camp where they're not allowed to leave.

00:29:19.000 And then you have to imagine these teenagers are probably thinking, I don't want to get COVID.

00:29:24.000 And they're like, you're negative.

00:29:25.000 They're like, good, let me go.

00:29:26.000 No.

00:29:27.000 Wait, were they positive maybe first and then they were negative?

00:29:30.000 So it's possible, but the minister said close contacts.

00:29:35.000 So that means like, well, you know, we got, you know, my brother's downstairs.

00:29:40.000 You are officially a close contact.

00:29:41.000 They'd come to your house and arrest you and be like, well, you know, you were a close contact with this person.

00:29:44.000 You might be like, I didn't see that person.

00:29:46.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:29:47.000 Too bad.

00:29:48.000 The best part about it is how they say they're not doing it by force.

00:29:51.000 And now you have all of these, I swear, look, people need to understand.

00:29:55.000 It's a known fact that governments use sock puppetry on social media.

00:29:59.000 The bot accounts.

00:30:00.000 I'm not saying every person's a bot, but they do this.

00:30:02.000 And it's funny to see the propagandists coming out and tweeting, it's been confirmed, people are not being taken by force.

00:30:08.000 And I'm like, are you kidding?

00:30:10.000 Then why are they escaping?

00:30:12.000 Like, they're voluntarily showing up and then trying to break out?

00:30:15.000 That makes literally no sense.

00:30:16.000 More importantly, they voluntarily show up but can't voluntarily leave.

00:30:21.000 How about we'll just call it that.

00:30:22.000 Okay, the Australian government is offering free rides in army trucks to the quarantine facility where people aren't allowed to leave by threat of arrest.

00:30:29.000 Is that it?

00:30:30.000 Are we good now?

00:30:31.000 Do you think it's possible they just don't tell them that they can't leave once they get there?

00:30:34.000 Are they maybe misleading them?

00:30:35.000 That's definitely possible.

00:30:36.000 I think it is completely unreasonable to make the argument that when the minister comes out and says you can't leave your house to eat, And we're gonna take people by army truck to quarantine facilities where they will be arrested if they escape.

00:30:50.000 The idea that they're voluntarily going to this place is absurd.

00:30:54.000 You know what I don't like is the way the Australian police interact with the citizenry.

00:30:59.000 Like gorillas attacking like a wounded lamb.

00:31:02.000 Like they just walk up on people.

00:31:04.000 No fear, like their arms are out, like they're about to grapple.

00:31:08.000 So they're not afraid of getting shot in the chest because they've disarmed the populace.

00:31:11.000 And they just stumble towards humans and use their mass to squeeze them. 0.98

00:31:17.000 It's disgusting.

00:31:18.000 One question I have about the Australian camps is, are vaccinated people able to get into these camps?

00:31:23.000 Do they detain those people too?

00:31:25.000 Yeah, probably, for sure.

00:31:27.000 Or if they're a suspected case.

00:31:30.000 One of the big things, too, and we'll get into this in just a second, is that there's new travel restrictions where Biden wants to implement them, that no matter your vaccination status, if you travel into the country, you've got to quarantine for a week, you've got to have a negative test before traveling, and all of these, like, I don't know, what's the word for the zealots?

00:31:51.000 All of these hardcore government-mandate zealots are like, What do you mean I've got to take a test in quarantine?

00:31:57.000 I'm double-vaxxed!

00:31:58.000 And one guy tweeted like, I'm double-vaxxed and boosted.

00:32:01.000 I refuse to be treated like these dewormer people. 1.00

00:32:03.000 It's like, what did you think was going to happen, bro?

00:32:07.000 Get your subscription now.

00:32:09.000 Promo code Fauciouchi to your monthly vaccine booster.

00:32:11.000 Look, I think if people want, if people are concerned about their health, you go and talk to a doctor about it.

00:32:18.000 I think COVID is very, very serious.

00:32:20.000 I got it.

00:32:21.000 And boy, was it bad.

00:32:22.000 But I think the problem is they keep trying to centralize everything.

00:32:26.000 They keep trying to say, we have an idea.

00:32:28.000 This one thing will solve the problem.

00:32:30.000 When in reality, it's going to be a multifaceted approach that solves this.

00:32:33.000 It's not polio.

00:32:34.000 This Jim Cramer guy acted like it's polio.

00:32:36.000 Like, like we're dealing with polio.

00:32:38.000 And he, and he, and then he was like, so he said, polio is horrible.

00:32:41.000 Polio is horrible. 0.98

00:32:42.000 So we need to use vaccines against COVID like complete non sequitur irrelevance.

00:32:47.000 Also other vaccines for polio and smallpox.

00:32:50.000 They took years to get mandated.

00:32:51.000 Wasn't it 15 plus years?

00:32:53.000 Some were like five or six years.

00:32:55.000 Others were like 15 years, but never before has it been right away as it has been with COVID.

00:33:00.000 So they didn't rush out a vaccine for.

00:33:01.000 No, no, no.

00:33:02.000 And there's also the danger of rushing something that will have an effect that of course will stop the natural progression of a virus and potentially even make it worse.

00:33:12.000 That's what some scientists are speculating right now that this intervention could actually cause to a worse situation another different variant that could hurt the world even more Which if you're thinking about how the state has been ... using this problem to help their friends to conduct the ... largest transfer of wealth and recorded human history to ... empower themselves with God-like authority over the ... population I would think that they would have an interest in ... making the situation worse personally myself but that is ... just my own perspective.

00:33:43.000 My own personal opinion.

00:33:45.000 Some scientists are speculating this as well.

00:33:47.000 But again, the data, the science, it's still all coming in.

00:33:50.000 It still really hasn't been figured out. 0.97

00:33:52.000 But to jump to conclusions, to say we need authoritarianism, we need tyranny to solve this problem is absolutely ridiculous. 1.00

00:33:59.000 It's a stupid idea. 1.00

00:34:01.000 And it's an idea that Joe Rogan argued recently is hurting more people than actually helping more people. 1.00

00:34:07.000 And I think that argument has a lot of merit to it.

00:34:10.000 I'm still surprised how many people say that the vaccines are a way to end the pandemic, that they stop the spread of COVID.

00:34:17.000 Like, so many people still say that.

00:34:18.000 It's like, no, no, it's mainstream science that that's not the case, that it slows the spread temporarily.

00:34:24.000 That's the most accurate way to say it.

00:34:25.000 We've got, let's, let's, uh, let me see if I can pull this, uh, let me see if I can find this.

00:34:29.000 Here we go.

00:34:29.000 We got this story from news, uh, from Sky News.

00:34:33.000 Omicron variant highly infectious and booster jabs may need double dose, says Moderna CEO.

00:34:39.000 It is.

00:34:40.000 A official.

00:34:42.000 Big Pharma narrative.

00:34:44.000 Sky News.

00:34:46.000 That you will need to get a double dose of the booster because of the new variant.

00:34:50.000 So there's no slowing the spread, I guess, but there's no stopping it if this is our plan of action.

00:34:57.000 And you've got a mainstream narrative from a lot of these people.

00:35:01.000 It's like you mentioned earlier, Luke.

00:35:03.000 They say, just get the first shot and then we're good.

00:35:05.000 Everyone will be fine.

00:35:06.000 They said in New York City, the mandate was one shot at least.

00:35:09.000 Now it's, you know, they're saying, okay, well, now you gotta get, then it was get two doses for fully vaccinated.

00:35:13.000 Then they said, we gotta get your booster.

00:35:15.000 Now they're saying, no, no, no, the third shot is not a booster.

00:35:17.000 It's a normal part of the whole vaccine process.

00:35:19.000 And now imagine this.

00:35:21.000 Imagine you got three shots already, and they're saying that's not a booster.

00:35:25.000 The CEO of Moderna is now saying you will need two more shots Because of Omicron.

00:35:32.000 It's like a rainmaker selling umbrellas.

00:35:34.000 That's my personal perspective on it.

00:35:36.000 But again, we have to understand who does this kind of benefit here?

00:35:41.000 Where's the accountability?

00:35:43.000 Where's the oversight?

00:35:44.000 Where's people saying, hey, let's actually take a look at this and let's maybe see if some people are maybe motivated more by profit than they are about general health.

00:35:53.000 And if we are interested in general health, shouldn't we have conversations about Obesity shouldn't we have conversations about diet and ... if you want to have a totalitarian response to the ... shore but if you're going to be attacking anyone it should be ... maybe KFC McDonald's Burger King especially if you're ... caring about people's health but but again it's it's ... ridiculous to even think about it that way.

00:36:14.000 And again, people's health is important and the discussions about exercise, vitamin D, getting proper sleep, not being stressed out, making sure that you're living a life that is a healthy, happy one rather than just a wage slave one where you're indoctrinated By just horrible ideas and horrible foods that go into ... your system and make you a crappy unhealthy unhappy person ... if you want to start those conversations we should have ... them and I think we would have a far better effect at helping ... people when it comes to making people healthier than we would ... by just giving all of our full faith to Big Pharma because as ... we know they're treated like our overlords right now.

00:36:54.000 I'm not surprised that this CEO of a pharmaceutical company is suggesting that his vaccine is the way to go forward.

00:37:01.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:37:03.000 I'm not surprised that he's saying, you actually need two.

00:37:05.000 Yeah.

00:37:06.000 Okay.

00:37:06.000 I'm a window maker.

00:37:08.000 And have you considered putting two windows in the same place?

00:37:10.000 The people, when there's a health crisis, you don't want to be looking to your pharmaceutical CEOs for the way forward necessarily.

00:37:17.000 We sound like such leftists.

00:37:20.000 These big corporations are just trying to turn a profit exploiting the health crisis, and we should... Yeah.

00:37:26.000 I mean, they were ready to go on this thing.

00:37:29.000 It's true.

00:37:30.000 This is the problem I have with, like, the left, is that when we refer to the left, we are quite literally referring to leftist populists and the establishment, because for whatever reason, they're aligned on this one.

00:37:41.000 You take a look at the most prominent personalities they have, and they agree on all this stuff.

00:37:45.000 And I'm like, yo, how come you guys are pro-Big Pharma now?

00:37:49.000 Maybe it's because, quite simply, the new generation of leftists, they were, you know, teenagers 10 years ago.

00:37:55.000 So when the Occupy Wall Street types were out there saying, like, Big Pharma's bad, those people are now in their mid to late 30s, and these 20-something-year-olds who are on YouTube and pushing this politics of the far left were born into a world where Big Pharma's actually good!

00:38:10.000 Martin Shkreli?

00:38:10.000 Awesome guy, apparently, I guess.

00:38:13.000 Okay, sure.

00:38:13.000 That's their position?

00:38:15.000 And the record of some of these companies, record fines, bribing doctors, bribing regulators, buying off corporate media, I can name a lot of individuals, I can name a lot of multinational corporations that, of course, were guilty of this, but they have a criminal past.

00:38:31.000 They're liable for causing real-life human harm before And, for people just to give them a pass, a blind trust, because, you know, there's a tragedy that's being exploited here, is something that is worrying, personally, myself, that I am concerned about, from my own personal perspective.

00:38:49.000 Also, the way that they're funding research, too.

00:38:51.000 Like, I was listening to this one cardiologist in the UK that Majid Nawaz was interviewing, by the way.

00:38:56.000 I don't know if you've seen his content lately, Majid, on Twitter.

00:38:58.000 He's been great on this.

00:38:59.000 And the cardiologist was saying that 66% of academic research done on medical issues is funded by drug companies.

00:39:06.000 So that creates a huge bias.

00:39:08.000 So a number of researchers are unable to publish certain kind of research that goes against the efficacy of a certain drug that can lead to, I think Joe was pointing out recently on his podcast, Joe Rogan, several drugs, dozens of drugs that have been pulled off the market that were initially approved and led to so many excess deaths and injuries.

00:39:26.000 And that was because the studies that were done that showed the efficacy were tainted by this influence

00:39:32.000 from the drug industry.

00:39:33.000 And it led to so many deaths and injuries.

00:39:35.000 Have you, I mean, you guys have seen the brought to you by Moderna montage?

00:39:38.000 Oh yeah.

00:39:39.000 CNN's new day brought to you by Pfizer.

00:39:42.000 And that shows like all the media saying that.

00:39:44.000 Yeah, man, when you have commercials, I think the United States is one of only like,

00:39:49.000 what I think like two countries that allow commercials for drugs.

00:39:52.000 It's insidious.

00:39:53.000 And the best part about it, I love this, is that they don't tell you what the drugs do.

00:39:57.000 Florinostrin, call your doctor to see if it's right for you.

00:40:00.000 Like, they won't tell you what it is.

00:40:02.000 But they want you to buy it.

00:40:03.000 Yeah, they'll show like an old woman and man dancing in the field in slow motion.

00:40:06.000 This could be you if you just take our drugs.

00:40:08.000 Restless leg syndrome?

00:40:10.000 We have a solution!

00:40:11.000 And then side effects include... Eat the food that our other company sells you.

00:40:17.000 Take our medicine that our other company sells you.

00:40:19.000 Are you feeling stressed?

00:40:20.000 Take this!

00:40:21.000 It's a joke.

00:40:22.000 Like, people do sketches where it's like, side effects may include, you know, explosive diarrhea.

00:40:26.000 But, like, I was actually... I saw an ad recently for some medication where they actually said... I verbally exclaimed in my living room when we were watching some show, and it was like, get this treatment!

00:40:38.000 And the side effects include, like, bleeding heart or something.

00:40:41.000 It's like, some ridiculous thing where it was like, you know, blood clots and, you know, deep vein thrombosis and other... and, like, cardiac arrest.

00:40:48.000 And I was like, why would you take that?

00:40:51.000 It was like, do you have, you know, irritable bowel syndrome?

00:40:53.000 Take this thing that can stop your heart and it's like...

00:40:56.000 I don't know, maybe you just gotta go to the bathroom.

00:40:59.000 Cause that side effects are crazy.

00:41:02.000 I don't know man, but you know what?

00:41:04.000 Far be it from me.

00:41:05.000 If somebody's got some kind of disease and they're suffering and they say, I'll take the risk if it makes my life better, that's between them, their doctor, ultimately they make a choice about what's right for their life.

00:41:15.000 Yeah, not commercials.

00:41:17.000 You're right, the United States and New Zealand are the only countries in the world that allow drug advertising on commercials right now.

00:41:23.000 And it's pretty much all you see, especially if you watch the corporate media.

00:41:26.000 You just see pharma ad after pharma ad after pharma ad.

00:41:29.000 Now again, we also have to be intellectually honest here.

00:41:32.000 Not all of big pharma is evil.

00:41:34.000 Some of the stuff that they do produce does really help people, has revolutionized medicine, and has changed people's lives for the better.

00:41:42.000 We have to admit that on a certain level.

00:41:43.000 But there is a very sinister, nasty, disgusting element of it that literally profits off of human suffering.

00:41:50.000 Rather cures the symptoms than the cause and is ... knowingly making money hiding real cures because of someone ... sitting at an office saying I prefer money over human life we ... saw that with the opioid epidemic we saw that with ... institutions in this country being bought out by Big Pharma ... that literally turned a huge portion of this country into ... heroin addicts knowingly because of big money and when ... you have that much of power that much influence that much ... harm caused by this industry.

00:42:19.000 I'm sorry.

00:42:20.000 You don't have my faith.

00:42:21.000 You don't have my personal belief system in you.

00:42:23.000 I'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

00:42:25.000 You don't deserve it.

00:42:26.000 Okay, Bernie bro.

00:42:28.000 It's true.

00:42:29.000 And then you got the prison industrial complex saying these working class family men who lost their jobs to the factories being shipped overseas, who then got hooked on opioids, should go to prison for it.

00:42:42.000 And the police with smiles on their faces kicking the doors of the victims, working class people in this country, and send them to jail. 1.00

00:42:50.000 Yep.

00:42:50.000 Yeah, the whole system.

00:42:51.000 But you know what the problem is?

00:42:52.000 Yo, I can see it, right?

00:42:54.000 Luke can see it.

00:42:55.000 We can all see it.

00:42:56.000 Big pharmaceutical companies exploiting a crisis, exploiting pain, pumping opioids into this country.

00:43:03.000 The policies of the Democratic and Republican establishment extracting factories and jobs from this country overseas to make a quick buck.

00:43:10.000 More government.

00:43:11.000 More police officers.

00:43:12.000 More money for Big Pharma.

00:43:14.000 More money for the big prison industries.

00:43:18.000 More government, more police officers, more money for Big Pharma, more money for the big prison industries, more

00:43:25.000 government intervention in our daily lives, which is insane.

00:43:27.000 I do support using the government's power to disrupt the monopoly of making pharmaceutical commercials legal.

00:43:35.000 I would like the government to make them illegal like they did with the tobacco commercials in the 60s or whatever it was, the 70s.

00:43:41.000 That is maybe a little socialist in me, but I think that there's a time and a place to use the heavy hammer of the government to prevent these private companies from taking over.

00:43:49.000 Sunset Clause.

00:43:49.000 That's not socialist.

00:43:50.000 That's something we can do reasonably as a community, as a country, as a nation, and be like,

00:43:56.000 here's what we agree and don't agree on how these companies should function.

00:43:59.000 I think regulations are fine.

00:44:01.000 The problem is when they never get removed and they're outdated or broken in some ways.

00:44:05.000 So what ends up happening is- Sunset clause.

00:44:07.000 Exactly.

00:44:08.000 We say, okay, we're gonna try this out.

00:44:09.000 We're going to do a two year, you know, uh, ban on pharmaceutical commercials or something.

00:44:14.000 And then we'll see how it happens.

00:44:16.000 And if it's, and then in two years it sunsets and then, you know, we'll have to re, re-vote for it or something like that.

00:44:21.000 And all the politicians that got bribed for two years by the pharma industry so that when they vote next time, they'll make sure to... No, it'll naturally sunset.

00:44:29.000 It'll just disappear.

00:44:30.000 The law will just be gone.

00:44:31.000 That is a big problem.

00:44:32.000 You know, the lobbying and all that stuff, and the promises, there's no real way around it.

00:44:36.000 Because they'll just be like, look, we can't give you anything, but when you're out in two years, we'll give you a high-paying job in the company.

00:44:43.000 I just, you know, it's not socialist to say the present industrial complex, well, actually, it's anti-socialist, I should say.

00:44:52.000 The government subsidizes private prisons, guaranteeing contracts.

00:44:59.000 So you'll get a dude who is hooked on opiates because he was prescribed it.

00:45:03.000 They get addicted, where they're in extreme pain.

00:45:06.000 They don't get any more.

00:45:07.000 The doctor says, no, you're cut off.

00:45:08.000 And they become desperate.

00:45:09.000 They go through withdrawals.

00:45:09.000 And they could die from this.

00:45:11.000 And so then they seek out non-legal methods for obtaining this to help themselves.

00:45:18.000 Then they go to prison.

00:45:19.000 And the government says, we got no issue with that.

00:45:22.000 Private prison system?

00:45:23.000 Here's somebody to throw into the machine and we will pay you for it.

00:45:27.000 And what's happening is our tax dollars are paying for a broken machine that is not helping these people, that is only incentivizing this.

00:45:35.000 So I'll tell you this, that's not capitalism.

00:45:37.000 That's more akin to communism and socialism than capitalism.

00:45:42.000 The problem is, first of all, most conservatives don't talk about this.

00:45:45.000 They don't seem to care.

00:45:45.000 Private prisons is not a big issue for them.

00:45:48.000 Trump wasn't interested in prison reform.

00:45:50.000 But when the left brings it up, they're like, this is a problem of capitalism.

00:45:53.000 And I'm like, what about the government taking the money from the people by force to fund these corrupt prison systems?

00:45:59.000 Is capitalism?

00:46:00.000 And creating absurd laws that put innocent people that didn't harm anyone in jail?

00:46:06.000 I mean, that absolutely makes no sense.

00:46:08.000 I think a perfect meme that I saw that represents the larger ideas that you're trying to get across here, Tim, was a protester screaming that we need more government, and then there was a full-on riot cop with pepper spray, pepper spraying her in the face, and then the pepper spray was more government, and she was getting all of it. 0.88

00:46:24.000 Because again, you look at this kind of reciprocal cycle, they create all these Stupid laws that create victimless crimes that put people in jail when they shouldn't be there. 0.92

00:46:34.000 They come out worse criminals. 1.00

00:46:36.000 They come out destroyed.

00:46:38.000 They come out without having their rights.

00:46:41.000 They come out without a sense of decency.

00:46:44.000 They come out in a situation where they can't even probably get a job in most places.

00:46:49.000 It's not always the case, but again, They create a situation that incentivizes some of the worst behavior in this world, and then we're asking ourselves, why do we have one of the largest prison populations?

00:46:59.000 We wonder why.

00:47:00.000 It's a big business and people profit off of it.

00:47:03.000 Speaking of victimless crimes, brother, this morning I was looking at certain reports that were released from Austria showing that, starting in February, people who don't take the vaccine might be incarcerated.

00:47:15.000 Those are still preliminary reports, but we do know for sure there's going to be a $4,000 fine starting in February for those people who don't get vaccinated.

00:47:24.000 This is mainstream news, not conspiracy at all.

00:47:26.000 It's incredible that they can exercise that much control.

00:47:30.000 Across Europe, you're seeing that.

00:47:32.000 In Slovenia, the small European country, They dabbled with the policy that people who were filling up on gas had to show their COVID certificate, otherwise they couldn't get their gas.

00:47:41.000 But then there was so much backlash that they backtracked afterwards.

00:47:44.000 But looking at Austria, the Czech Republic, Lithuania, and I believe Berlin, Germany as well, are considering mandatory vaccination, otherwise paying fines or even incarceration.

00:47:56.000 It's crazy.

00:47:57.000 In the US, in 1905, there was a Supreme Court ruling that stated you could fine someone in your community if they don't get vaccinated.

00:48:06.000 The fine was $5 at the time, the equivalent of about $150, but that was it.

00:48:11.000 That's the argument used by many of these leftists to say, see, we've always had vax mandates.

00:48:15.000 And I'm like, yeah, I guess, but they were never able, my understanding is they weren't able to collect the money from them.

00:48:20.000 That was the issue.

00:48:21.000 He's like, I ain't paying you, you can't do anything about it.

00:48:23.000 So, I mean, sure, I guess you can argue you can fine someone, but they can still say no.

00:48:27.000 The ultimate issue was that they could try to compel you to do it, but ultimately could not force the needle into your arm.

00:48:34.000 Now, the narrative from the left is like, we've always had vaccine mandates, what about schools?

00:48:38.000 And it's like, you can choose not to go to the school, you can choose to move your kids, you can get a medical exemption or religious exemption.

00:48:43.000 Now, they're outright saying, like Jim Cramer, just have the military mandate it, and in Australia, Look, I think it's fair to say the Australian press and all these people are lying through their teeth.

00:48:54.000 And at this point, I would actually say that's, in my opinion, circumstantial evidence to suggest everything we think about what's going on in Australia is probably a lot worse than it is.

00:49:03.000 They admit they arrest three teenagers from escaping from the quarantine facility.

00:49:08.000 Okay, if that's the case, and Claire Lehman and whoever else wants to argue that they're international arrival bungalows, where people like hot babes are sunbathing, but then they'll also tell us you'll be arrested if you escape, I can only assume that it's substantially worse and they're probably just flogging people in their rooms. 0.86

00:49:22.000 I'm kidding, by the way, I really don't think they're doing that.

00:49:24.000 But if we know they're lying about everything, why would I even just give them the benefit of the doubt in any capacity?

00:49:30.000 So to me, this kind of smacks of an authoritarian government because I remember when COVID first started, my friend looked at the numbers and said, oh, this is coming out of China.

00:49:39.000 Those numbers are 10 times what they're telling us.

00:49:41.000 And I was like, yes, absolutely.

00:49:43.000 So like what you're saying right now, what Australia is admitting to is going to be very much a PR stunt.

00:49:49.000 The fact that they're coming out and saying, oh, no, you know, people aren't you know being forced to do this or whatever and sending all these awesome pictures of ladies in bikinis very strange advertising for these camps but it's like you're hiding something you need to fess up and they're never going to because they'll never be held to account which is a little bit discouraging but at least the fact that there's a marketing campaign with women in bikinis in government quarantine camps is creepier than the fact that there wasn't it's just the hashtag apparently yeah

00:50:19.000 But the fact that people are collecting these and making articles and making stories about this justifying this bigger power grab by government and not trying to hold the government accountable, not even talking about personal responsibility, is absolutely worrying.

00:50:32.000 And we're seeing a lot of crazy stuff happening in Europe.

00:50:34.000 Greece just made the vaccine mandatory for everyone over the age of 60.

00:50:38.000 It's pretty much mandatory in Italy already.

00:50:41.000 It's pretty much mandatory in France.

00:50:43.000 But it's not really Implemented because people are not going along with it, but in Italy right now You can't board a plane.

00:50:49.000 You can't board a bus.

00:50:51.000 You can't board any kind of public transportation You can't have any job public or private if you don't go through the government compliance and you get their approval and you get a paper saying hey, I'm okay with Being able to, you know, bow down to government, then you could actually do all of those things, which is ridiculous.

00:51:09.000 Let's bring it back from Europe and Australia to the United States.

00:51:12.000 We have the story from the Huffington Post, excellent source of news.

00:51:15.000 I'm being sarcastic by the way.

00:51:17.000 Fauci says Omicron, I'm sorry, Omnicron, May not be big deal, but U.S.

00:51:22.000 should prepare for the worst.

00:51:24.000 He said the COVID-19 variant will inevitably come to the U.S.

00:51:28.000 if it's not already here, and warned that it's going to have an advantage in transmissibility.

00:51:32.000 It will never end.

00:51:34.000 He says, this is a clarion call, as far as I'm concerned, of saying, let's put aside all of these differences that we have and say, if you're not vaccinated, get vaccinated.

00:51:43.000 If you're fully vaccinated, get boosted and get the children vaccinated also.

00:51:48.000 Fauci, director of National Institute, NIAID, said that though there is still much that is unknown about Omicron, it's actually Omicron, but we're making fun of Joe Biden, just so you know.

00:51:57.000 Vaccines offer a proven level of protection.

00:52:00.000 Level, they say.

00:52:01.000 A level of protection, sure.

00:52:03.000 But that's why he's saying get boosted, because the efficacy has waned.

00:52:06.000 And as we already mentioned in a previous segment, the Moderna CEO says, you've maybe got to get two.

00:52:11.000 So it will likely turn into more than that.

00:52:14.000 Quote, it may not be as good as protecting against initial infection, but it has a very important impact on diminishing the likelihood that you're going to get a severe outcome from it.

00:52:21.000 I don't know, ask Dan Bongino.

00:52:22.000 He said he got a really bad reaction from it, and he's double vaxxed.

00:52:26.000 Well, here we go.

00:52:27.000 SFGate reports, San Francisco reports first U.S.

00:52:31.000 Omicron case.

00:52:32.000 Symptoms very mild.

00:52:33.000 All right, very mild is good.

00:52:36.000 But, um, prepare for the worst, says Fauci.

00:52:39.000 What's the worst?

00:52:41.000 Well, I can imagine for most people the worst would be a lockdown.

00:52:43.000 Right?

00:52:44.000 Destroying your business.

00:52:45.000 It's whatever each person wants to imagine.

00:52:47.000 It's their own terror.

00:52:49.000 It's their own fear.

00:52:49.000 He's putting people in a state of fear.

00:52:52.000 Prepare for the worst possible thing you can think of.

00:52:54.000 The best fear that the government could have is the fear of the unknown.

00:52:57.000 And the more kind of unknown this is, the more people's imagination plays on the best of them,

00:53:03.000 including the larger guilt trips, the emotional manipulation, the trauma-based mind control,

00:53:08.000 I like to call it, is essentially what people are going through.

00:53:11.000 Fauci, by the way, was also joined by Obama yesterday, and they did a surprise visit at a D.C. elementary school,

00:53:18.000 and they were meeting students and encouraging them to get the vaccine

00:53:23.000 and congratulating the children who did get the vaccine.

00:53:26.000 I think parents should be talking to doctors, and I'm really, what irks me about this is that you can't give medical advice on YouTube.

00:53:34.000 Joe Rogan gets slammed in the media for saying his opinion on what he received.

00:53:38.000 Joe Rogan does, there's a video where he's like, here's the things I got, and they're like, meh!

00:53:42.000 And then I do a video, I'm like, here's what I got, here's my thoughts, and they're like, meh!

00:53:45.000 And then they can come out and say, oh yeah, we wanna encourage you to take all of this stuff, we don't know your medical history or not, but we're gonna encourage this particular treatment for you.

00:53:53.000 I'm like, no, no, no, no, we don't play that game.

00:53:55.000 You don't get to argue that you get to advertise your preferred medical assessment, you know, treatment, and then everyone else who might bring up their opinion on it gets banned.

00:54:03.000 End of the day, anybody who just blindly goes for any medical procedure without consulting a medical professional they trust, and perhaps even getting a second opinion, is making a mistake in my opinion.

00:54:14.000 Did you see what Bill de Blasio was saying to encourage kids to get vaccinated a couple months ago?

00:54:19.000 A hundred bucks.

00:54:20.000 Yeah, a hundred bucks.

00:54:20.000 And he was saying you can buy a lot of candy with it.

00:54:22.000 You can buy a lot.

00:54:23.000 Jeez!

00:54:24.000 It's such a creepy way.

00:54:25.000 Look, look, look.

00:54:26.000 By the way, with kids, sorry.

00:54:28.000 No, no, I'm just gonna come down right to it and say, we need to stick to the freedom argument.

00:54:36.000 Personal liberty, individual choice.

00:54:38.000 Because what's happening is, man, we're just slowly being pulled further and further into the mandates will happen no matter what.

00:54:45.000 I'm worried most about young people right now with the vaccine, with mandating it. 1.00

00:54:47.000 a new sensational fear mongering story, a new thing that gets everybody who opposes

00:54:52.000 the mandates arguing about that, we are being dragged leftward.

00:54:56.000 And more commercials about the drugs.

00:54:58.000 That's something I'm worried most about young people right now with the vaccine with mandating

00:55:03.000 it and I mentioned the 44,000 kids in LA.

00:55:06.000 They're gonna start mandating in more and more schools more and more kids are going

00:55:09.000 to be kicked out and pushed to online learning where they're not going to have those real

00:55:12.000 interactions that promote growth and in all sorts of ways.

00:55:15.000 But I've interviewed several experts about vaccinating young people, including Dr. Jay Bhattacharya at Stanford, Martin Kohldorf at Harvard, multiple doctors, and they say that the myocarditis signal in young people is especially concerning.

00:55:29.000 According to CDC data, I gave Lydia the link also in the email, in the email, But according to CDC data, the risk is about 1 in 5,000 for young men specifically in between the ages of like 12 to 20.

00:55:44.000 And so vaccinating, so 1 in 5,000 may seem like a small risk, but once you multiply that by millions of doses, then that adds up and then you have And by this is no exaggeration, in my own city in Chilliwack, I've heard of three cases of young boys who after the vaccine had a seriously adverse reaction and were in the hospital because of cardiac arrest due to the vaccine.

00:56:06.000 I'm not saying don't get the vaccine for your kid.

00:56:08.000 Doctors, you know, that I trust say if your kid has obesity, you know, you should consider it or if they have cancer.

00:56:14.000 Underlying conditions.

00:56:15.000 Things like that.

00:56:16.000 When it comes to healthy young boys though, a 1 in 5,000 risk is not trivial and we shouldn't be mandating it at all.

00:56:22.000 I think this is why I want to get to it again.

00:56:24.000 It's like we shouldn't mandate anything.

00:56:26.000 We shouldn't mandate chips.

00:56:27.000 We shouldn't mandate vaccines.

00:56:29.000 I'm not saying chips are happening.

00:56:30.000 Calm down, media.

00:56:31.000 But we have this story from the New York Times we briefly showed.

00:56:33.000 The FDA is assessing whether the Moderna vaccine can cause heart problems in adolescents.

00:56:37.000 They say the FDA is reviewing reports suggesting the coronavirus vaccine made by Moderna can cause heart problems in some adolescents, the company said on Sunday.

00:56:46.000 This is not conspiracy.

00:56:47.000 This is literally Moderna saying we have these reports.

00:56:51.000 The FDA needs to review this.

00:56:52.000 Moderna requested authorization from the FDA for its use in the vaccine from children ages 12 to 17 in June.

00:56:58.000 The adolescents would receive 100 micrograms of the vaccine, the same dose given to adults 18 and above.

00:57:03.000 But the agency has not yet made a ruling on the application, prompting speculation about reasons for the delay.

00:57:09.000 In a statement on Sunday, Moderna said the FDA requires additional time to evaluate recent international analyses of the risk of myocarditis after vaccination.

00:57:17.000 Okay, so if Fauci and Obama want to go to kids and say, go do this, and the FDA is literally like, we're going to review these reports, international reports about myocarditis, it is extremely irresponsible, and this is what pisses me off.

00:57:32.000 I'm not going to recommend anything to anybody, but I certainly think it's fair to point out the New York Times has reported this.

00:57:39.000 This is a month ago, they reported this, and the FDA is going to be evaluating these claims, and these claims exist.

00:57:45.000 Now, by all means, when you talk to your doctor, show him this, and make sure you get sound advice.

00:57:50.000 And if you don't trust your doctor, get a better doctor.

00:57:53.000 But the idea that politicians are going to go out and advise people on medical procedures, to me, is just insane.

00:58:00.000 And more importantly, as an expert on freedom, I don't care what you want to mandate, Freedom!

00:58:05.000 There you go.

00:58:06.000 I have a right to my body, my autonomy, and we just had the Supreme Court, we probably should have highlighted this, the Supreme Court's basically ending Roe v. Wade.

00:58:14.000 This is the official narrative across the board from left-wing journalists to establishment corporate press that come June, Roe v. Wade will be done, and we'll talk about that in a second.

00:58:23.000 And my attitude is, look, I don't like abortion used as contraception.

00:58:27.000 I don't like the idea in any capacity that a life is being destroyed.

00:58:31.000 But I err on the side of the government ain't got no business in my medical decisions or others.

00:58:35.000 And that means if somebody has a legitimate reason they have to undergo an abortion, I don't think they should have a certificate filled out or have to get approval from the government for a medical procedure their doctor recommends.

00:58:45.000 But it should be through a private doctor.

00:58:47.000 That being said, I feel the exact same way about all the mandates.

00:58:50.000 What pisses me off is that we don't have that consistency among the left.

00:58:55.000 When the right came out and said, okay, my body, my choice, they said, you're liars, we don't believe you.

00:59:00.000 Yeah, also quickly, I want to say about the myocarditis risk.

00:59:03.000 One of the interesting things is that the science doesn't change in terms of risk of myocarditis from country to country, yet the policy is completely different.

00:59:11.000 So in the US and in Canada, you have the, well in Canada specifically, you have the policy where young people over the age of 12 in BC and in Ontario have to be vaccinated, otherwise they can't go and exercise to a gym, they can't go to a bar, restaurants, etc.

00:59:28.000 And starting yesterday, you can't leave Canada because of the vaccine mandates.

00:59:33.000 But in other countries, with young people, what they've done is, in many cases, they've suspended the Moderna vaccine because of the higher rates of myocarditis, as that piece was pointing out, by the way.

00:59:42.000 I think I actually have this here.

00:59:44.000 Sweden, Denmark, Finland, a number of other countries have paused Moderna.

00:59:48.000 October 8th, CNBC.

00:59:49.000 Nordic countries are restricting the use of Moderna's COVID vaccine.

00:59:52.000 The decision to limit the use of Moderna vaccine centers around concerns it could be linked to cases of myocarditis.

00:59:57.000 So this is... Moderna recognizes it.

01:00:00.000 The FDA is looking into it.

01:00:01.000 Nordic countries... This is all fact and very... Also, they're finding that myocarditis is concentrated after the second dose in young men, not with the first as much.

01:00:12.000 And because of that, countries like Hong Kong and the UK are only recommending one dose to young people.

01:00:18.000 So think about that.

01:00:19.000 Other countries who have their own legitimate health authorities are saying, young people, get one dose, okay? 0.64

01:00:25.000 But countries like Canada, you have to get two doses, otherwise you can't go to the gym.

01:00:30.000 In LA, if you're a young person, you have to get two doses, otherwise you're gonna be kicked out of in-school learning.

01:00:36.000 That's crazy. 0.99

01:00:37.000 It's the same fucking science, but totally different public policy. 0.99

01:00:40.000 Sorry, was I... 0.99

01:00:41.000 No, whatever, man.

01:00:42.000 They do that with AIDS.

01:00:43.000 You were talking about a puck, right?

01:00:44.000 In Canada, they have pucks.

01:00:47.000 That's how AIDS is, too.

01:00:49.000 They can measure HIV, but then every country kind of has a different response to that, and that's their AIDS thing.

01:00:56.000 If you have pneumonia in a certain country and you have a high T cell count, It shows why it's political.

01:01:01.000 It's politicized, right?

01:01:03.000 The science is not just one thing.

01:01:05.000 You can base policies off of this science that's growing, by the way.

01:01:08.000 I like how the left, they view science as a very religious kind of system.

01:01:13.000 Science is supposed to be constantly evolving and updating as you see new information.

01:01:18.000 Like, this whole myocarditis risk was not known when the vaccines were initially released, right?

01:01:22.000 But then we saw data from Israel coming out, and Alex Berenson was talking about this, and other people, and they're like, no, no, that's conspiracy.

01:01:28.000 Like, heart inflammation?

01:01:29.000 Come on.

01:01:30.000 But then more and more information came out, more and more studies. 1.00

01:01:30.000 That's sort of bullshit. 1.00

01:01:33.000 There's also stuff happening with menstrual bleeding in women after the vaccine. 0.99

01:01:37.000 I don't know about that stuff, though.

01:01:38.000 I looked into that.

01:01:39.000 I didn't find anything on that.

01:01:40.000 Well, yeah, I know.

01:01:41.000 I sent Lydia a link.

01:01:42.000 Lydia, if you want to look at that, the menstrual bleeding. 1.00

01:01:44.000 Can I say something about that issue specifically?

01:01:47.000 So a friend of mine in July, she's 17 or 18.

01:01:51.000 She said she had this horrible menstrual bleeding after the vaccine.

01:01:55.000 And I told her, it's probably not the vaccine, like, come on, there's probably something else, right?

01:01:59.000 And then another young female friend told me, and then I heard about it from another one, and then I started asking around, and I kid you not, almost everywhere I asked among young females... That's a weird thing to ask women, bro.

01:02:10.000 Yeah, I know, I know.

01:02:12.000 Quirks of being a reporter.

01:02:15.000 But... I'm reporting, how was your last cycle?

01:02:18.000 But I've heard of at least 20 young girls, like girls who tell me like, yeah, all my friends, they had the same reaction, which is like crazy.

01:02:25.000 And the NIH is actually funding research right now into looking at this specific risk with menstrual bleeding in women.

01:02:33.000 And then also the Guardian and the New York Times have reported this, that in In the UK, in their adverse reporting system, they were inundated with reports of young women having this menstrual bleeding issue.

01:02:43.000 So, it is a real thing that is being investigated. 0.98

01:02:45.000 Therefore, another reason why mandates are stupid and we should... And rushing vaccines has a risk. 0.97

01:02:50.000 We always have to make sure we consider what I refer to as the scaling problem. 0.98

01:02:54.000 That as a system grows larger, the tolerance for error grows smaller.

01:02:59.000 So, if you give out 100 vaccines and one person has an adverse reaction, nobody cares.

01:03:04.000 Oh, I heard Jim had a weird reaction.

01:03:06.000 Oh, just Jim, huh?

01:03:07.000 No problem.

01:03:08.000 But that's 1%.

01:03:09.000 You give out a hundred million vaccines, and now you have a million people all talking about these stories, and everyone's like, what's happening?

01:03:14.000 A million people had this same percentage of error.

01:03:18.000 As the system grows larger, our tolerance for error diminishes, you know, proportionally.

01:03:23.000 So what may be happening is that a lot of people are like, look at VAERS.

01:03:26.000 The numbers are through the roof for adverse events.

01:03:28.000 And I'm like, yeah, we also haven't had mass scale vaccinations globally or in the country like this too.

01:03:34.000 So make sure you're looking at margins and not hard numbers.

01:03:38.000 It would be like looking at New York City and being like, wow, they had 10,000 muggings. 1.00

01:03:42.000 That's the highest in the nation.

01:03:44.000 And then being like, yeah, but per 100,000 people, they have substantially less muggings. 0.98

01:03:48.000 New York's got like 10 million people in the Metro.

01:03:51.000 Then you can look at these, like, small towns where per capita they have, like, 50 muggings. 1.00

01:03:56.000 Like, in West Virginia, they have seriously high crime, but very low population.

01:04:00.000 So you'll get, like, 50 stories about muggings, and you won't think twice about it. 0.99

01:04:05.000 And then in New York, you have everyone you know has been mugged.

01:04:07.000 It makes you think it's worse than it really is.

01:04:10.000 So it's important to look at the denominator especially, not just the numerator.

01:04:14.000 I am not saying ignore the data.

01:04:17.000 I'm not saying ignore this.

01:04:18.000 I'm saying literally take all of this, do research.

01:04:21.000 Seriously, ignore the mainstream media when they're like, don't do your own research.

01:04:24.000 No, no, no, do your own research.

01:04:26.000 Make sure you have trust in yourself and your knowledge.

01:04:29.000 Bring it to a doctor.

01:04:31.000 You don't trust them, you get a second opinion, but make sure you know what you're putting in your body.

01:04:34.000 Because I'll tell you this, if you just go to someone and say, tell me what to do and I don't care.

01:04:38.000 I'm not going to think twice.

01:04:39.000 I think it's a bad idea.

01:04:40.000 I think you have a responsibility for your health.

01:04:42.000 And I also think you have a responsibility to seek out experts, which is your medical professionals and find someone you trust.

01:04:47.000 But it's a combination of things, man.

01:04:49.000 And all the liabilities on you here, the people who produced it, the people who forced you to take it, your business, your boss, your government is not responsible.

01:04:57.000 They have no liability here at all if something goes wrong.

01:05:01.000 And there have been stories of a lot of people who've had And again, you know, correlation does not prove causation.

01:05:08.000 We need to be intellectually honest here.

01:05:10.000 There's a lot of things that are still unknown here, but a lot of people who had complications were left with huge medical bills because they had to pay for all the problems and consequences that led up to this decision that was essentially forced onto them.

01:05:24.000 And when that happens, you're making the decision that you're going to be responsible for no matter what happens, and no one's going to bail you out.

01:05:31.000 All right.

01:05:32.000 Now we're going to get into the portion of the show that I saved for near the end, because I knew it would consume probably the rest of the show.

01:05:40.000 Whenever we talk about Roe v. Wade or abortion, it turns into this major, long conversation.

01:05:45.000 And so I was like, if we open with this, it's going to be an hour of debating abortion.

01:05:50.000 So I don't know.

01:05:51.000 Maybe we should have.

01:05:51.000 It's the bigger news here.

01:05:52.000 But ladies and gentlemen, From CNBC, Supreme Court conservatives look ready to gut Roe v. Wade during arguments in Mississippi abortion case.

01:06:01.000 It was today.

01:06:02.000 Mississippi wants to ban abortions after 15 weeks, and the Supreme Court heard oral arguments, and boy did the left have almost no argument.

01:06:13.000 Look, you guys know me.

01:06:15.000 I'm pro-choice.

01:06:16.000 I am not pro-abortion.

01:06:17.000 The modern left, in my opinion, is pro-abortion, not pro-choice, and pro-choice is few and far between if it exists at all.

01:06:23.000 I think the pro-choice individuals have more in common with pro-lifers, but they do disagree.

01:06:27.000 I heard some of the arguments.

01:06:28.000 You could listen to it.

01:06:30.000 Chief Justice Roberts made excellent points, and he did compare the U.S.

01:06:34.000 to other countries, and he still made good points.

01:06:36.000 The left seemingly had no real argument, and it got to the point where a reporter from Slate tweeted, the arguments are in.

01:06:44.000 The Supreme Court will overturn Roe v. Wade in June 2022.

01:06:50.000 He then deleted the tweet and said, too many people thought it was a statement of fact.

01:06:54.000 He said, what I'm saying is it's a prediction.

01:06:56.000 These are leftist reporters.

01:06:58.000 The NBC News tweeted, it appears the conservatives are going to repeal, I'm paraphrasing, repeal or strike down Roe v. Wade.

01:07:07.000 There are 12 states with what's called trigger laws, which means as soon as Roe v. Wade is overturned, they instantly go into effect.

01:07:14.000 They've already been passed and abortion will be immediately banned.

01:07:18.000 It is believed that many more states will then ban abortion, and you will have blue states that allow it, red states that don't.

01:07:26.000 The Supreme— I'm just going to say it again.

01:07:28.000 We don't know what's going to happen.

01:07:30.000 It might not.

01:07:31.000 But based on what the justices were arguing, Kavanaugh, man, he hit it out of the park and I have to agree with him.

01:07:38.000 He said you have, like he basically, I'll paraphrase, he was like, you haven't presented an argument as to why this is an issue for the Supreme Court.

01:07:47.000 This sounds like something Congress needs to address.

01:07:51.000 And I'm like, he's right.

01:07:53.000 The Supreme Court shouldn't be deciding whether something is banned or not banned.

01:07:57.000 Congress needs to pass laws legislating this stuff.

01:08:00.000 On that alone, and also listening to the argument from the Solicitor General, who is like defending Roe v. Wade, she was just saying like, the right to abortion is in the 14th Amendment.

01:08:12.000 And I think it was Clarence Thomas who was like, What?

01:08:18.000 I can read the Second Amendment that says something.

01:08:22.000 I don't know what you're getting at with that.

01:08:24.000 So yeah, this seems like the end.

01:08:27.000 I know Luke was celebrating earlier.

01:08:29.000 I don't know about that.

01:08:31.000 I saw some weird videos on Twitter today of women taking, I think it was abortion pills?

01:08:37.000 Claiming to, yeah.

01:08:38.000 Claiming to or doing it?

01:08:40.000 I don't know.

01:08:42.000 It's such a complicated debate.

01:08:44.000 There's so much emotion involved in this.

01:08:47.000 And I don't think people celebrating abortions is something that is tasteful, to say the least.

01:08:54.000 It's something that was very concerning to see.

01:08:58.000 And, you know, there's different aspects.

01:09:00.000 There's different places where you could be on the spectrum here.

01:09:04.000 And there's, of course, people arguing that if you do take an abortion, you are killing a life.

01:09:10.000 And therefore, you are trampling on somebody else's life.

01:09:12.000 So that's where the argument gets complicated.

01:09:14.000 All right, Luke, so what's your position?

01:09:16.000 I honestly want to do more research into this.

01:09:20.000 I don't want to make a conclusion, because it's a question that's very difficult to answer, and not having done enough research on it, I don't feel well-versed to expose any opinions on it, to be completely honest with you.

01:09:33.000 So what you're saying is you're sitting back as babies are being murdered and you're okay with that?

01:09:37.000 There's a nice fence that I see here and it's nice to sit on some fences sometimes.

01:09:43.000 But being honest here, you know, there's things that I believe personally and there's things I believe the government should be involved in.

01:09:52.000 I don't think the government should be involved in anything but people are arguing that when you're committing an abortion you are killing another individual.

01:09:59.000 And that argument is compelling to a lot of people, and I think it should be an argument that should be talked about more.

01:10:05.000 Well, I think cut-off time is important.

01:10:07.000 Like, after how many weeks?

01:10:09.000 And I remain hesitantly pro-choice on this issue.

01:10:12.000 I don't really publicly share my opinions on this like Luke here.

01:10:17.000 But I think it's, what is it, 12 weeks for when the baby has a heartbeat, I believe?

01:10:22.000 That seems to be potentially a logical cutoff like after 12 weeks then

01:10:27.000 Potentially maybe we shouldn't be able to or maybe bit after that

01:10:30.000 I don't know but it's a matter of having a reasonable cutoff point

01:10:33.000 We can debate about I know Luke's trying to be careful here But the reason is is you know before the show he actually

01:10:39.000 confirmed to me. He's pro-death Actually pro-life at all

01:10:43.000 He's like, send them all to the camps, to the gulags.

01:10:47.000 There's no fence on this issue.

01:10:49.000 It's one of the hardest issues, ethically.

01:10:51.000 But I was reading a lot about Roe v. Wade and the initial rulings.

01:10:56.000 Basically, the idea is... Man, it's insanely complicated.

01:11:01.000 You can't, what they're saying is they don't want you to be able to abort after the fetus is viable.

01:11:07.000 Because at that point you're dealing with a self-sustaining independent life.

01:11:10.000 Before that the baby is not able to live outside.

01:11:14.000 So, so, um.

01:11:15.000 How many weeks are we talking?

01:11:17.000 24 on.

01:11:17.000 24.

01:11:18.000 And I guess initially, during the initial arguments on Roe v. Wade, it was like 26 and beyond was viable.

01:11:23.000 And now with medical technology, it's gone up to 24.

01:11:26.000 And so, you know, pro-lifers are basically like, don't abort for any reason.

01:11:30.000 And what's happening now in Mississippi is they're saying, after 15 weeks, you can't get an abortion.

01:11:35.000 John Roberts was talking to her name.

01:11:40.000 What's her name?

01:11:41.000 I can't remember her name.

01:11:42.000 The Solicitor General.

01:11:43.000 And he was like, if you're talking about the issue of choice, I don't understand how 15 weeks is not adequate time to make a choice.

01:11:50.000 And she did not have an argument.

01:11:52.000 And he brought up European countries.

01:11:53.000 He said, in many European countries, they have less time than we do.

01:11:57.000 And then she lied and said, no, they allow abortion up to the point of viability. 0.93

01:12:03.000 That's not true.

01:12:04.000 Yeah, Europe is actually very strict.

01:12:04.000 And it's not true at all.

01:12:06.000 I think 12 weeks in Europe.

01:12:07.000 Much more so than the U.S.

01:12:08.000 Why have they chosen 15, by the way, here?

01:12:10.000 What's the rationale behind 15?

01:12:11.000 That's the heartbeat, right?

01:12:13.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:12:14.000 15 is around the time.

01:12:14.000 15, 16 is around the time the heartbeat is technical.

01:12:16.000 I thought it was 12 for heartbeat.

01:12:17.000 Maybe.

01:12:18.000 Maybe you're right.

01:12:19.000 I think it's also important for people to distinguish what they believe personally and what would they rather have the government do.

01:12:25.000 Personally, I'm not a fan of government.

01:12:27.000 But personally, if I had a situation where, you know, I was potentially having a child, I would do everything in my power to have that child, and I would do everything to make sure that there wasn't an abortion.

01:12:39.000 Personally, speaking from my own personal perspective, that's what I would do.

01:12:42.000 There's an interesting argument in this whole debate that basically came up, and it's, if a woman is pregnant with a baby, and the baby is not able to sustain itself, Then, I don't think it's the state's right to determine that someone has to share their body with someone else.

01:12:59.000 But the issue for me is, if a woman has to go to a doctor, and the doctor says something like, look, you've got this, you know, problem, it's a serious health issue, and it could kill both of you, and we're worried about this.

01:13:12.000 Understanding the argument, because I've talked to Seamus from Freedom Tombs about this a lot, he's like, doctors can be wrong about that, and often will pressure towards abortion.

01:13:20.000 But that argument aside, if this woman has a serious medical issue, it's traumatizing, it's serious, I don't like the idea that she goes to the government and seeks out approval or paperwork. 0.98

01:13:32.000 However, if we're at a certain point where, on average, the baby is viable, you are now asking to terminate a sustainable life form.

01:13:41.000 You are now saying to the government, I would like to kill this life.

01:13:44.000 Okay?

01:13:45.000 At that point, I think it's even absurd that you can go to the government, request termination of someone else.

01:13:49.000 If the baby can live outside the womb, then I don't understand why we don't just say, OK, well, we're going to take the baby out of the womb and let it live.

01:13:56.000 Well, what is life?

01:13:58.000 I mean, just lay there in a cradle until it starves to death?

01:14:01.000 Or are we having someone take care of it?

01:14:02.000 No, they put it in the premature baby incubation.

01:14:05.000 Someone's got to feed it and take care of it.

01:14:07.000 Someone's got to start mothering it immediately when it's removed from the womb. 0.99

01:14:10.000 Tough moral questions, Ian.

01:14:11.000 What's the alternative?

01:14:12.000 We say we have this baby.

01:14:14.000 Let's say you have a nine-month, a full-term baby, fresh out of the womb, and then you're like, well, who's gonna feed it?

01:14:22.000 So what do you do?

01:14:22.000 I won't!

01:14:23.000 Well, there's also a lot of people who can't have children and wish they can have children and they wish they could adopt, but our adoption system is absolutely crazy to the point where many Americans are literally going to China and Russia in order to get babies there because the process is so much easier and simpler to do it over there than to jump through all the government hoops here in the United States that actively intervenes and, you know, some would argue prevents people from being able to adopt children here in the United States.

01:14:51.000 So there's also arguments for that as well.

01:14:55.000 And again, this is a very difficult discussion.

01:14:57.000 A lot of emotion here.

01:14:59.000 You know, life, you know, how does it begin?

01:15:02.000 Life begins at conception.

01:15:04.000 End of story.

01:15:05.000 Life is precious in my opinion and should be preserved at all costs.

01:15:10.000 This is a very sensitive issue and we already got a super chat where they're like,

01:15:14.000 long story short, Tim's hypocritical for opposing the death penalty but for being pro-choice.

01:15:20.000 I ain't pro-abortion! 0.97

01:15:21.000 I think killing is wrong.

01:15:23.000 I think using abortion as contraception is disgusting. 0.89

01:15:25.000 The problem is, saying to the government, you have a right to be in the doctor's room with a person, to demand their papers.

01:15:33.000 I don't think it should be allowed for vaccines. 0.84

01:15:37.000 I don't think it should be allowed for when you have to go to a doctor and you say, yo, my life sucks.

01:15:40.000 I have a serious problem.

01:15:42.000 And I think about the challenge here in that there are a lot of women who are crying, saying, please, please save my baby. 1.00

01:15:47.000 And the doctor's saying, ma'am, I can't.

01:15:48.000 It's ectopic.

01:15:49.000 It's not going to work.

01:15:50.000 And then he's like, now, in order to save you, fill out this government form and go talk to your local politician about why this is what you need to do.

01:15:57.000 I don't like the idea of the government being involved in that.

01:15:59.000 I certainly despise, to a great degree, that people abuse the system to be like, eh, accidentally got pregnant. 1.00

01:16:06.000 Instead of using birth control, I'll just kill it. 1.00

01:16:09.000 That's screwed up. 1.00

01:16:10.000 That's bad and wrong.

01:16:11.000 And then I sit there, like, with my head shaking, like, how do you reconcile this?

01:16:16.000 I cannot entertain the idea of the government being given authority over our bodies and having a right to be in these medical rooms.

01:16:24.000 There is an interesting argument, though, about the time duration.

01:16:29.000 There's no middle ground here.

01:16:30.000 This is the challenge here.

01:16:31.000 I think killing is wrong.

01:16:33.000 I think there are certain circumstances where you have to and it's unfortunate.

01:16:36.000 Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn't have had to kill the people he did but he was defending himself and I don't think he should go to prison for it and I wish those people didn't lose their lives no matter how awful they are.

01:16:46.000 Sometimes you have no choice.

01:16:48.000 If there is a woman who has a serious medical issue, a legitimate one, I'm not talking about stupid lies or arguments or whatever, I'm talking about legitimate, like, yo, the heart is busted up and it's not gonna survive and it might kill you too, and the mother is crying, begging for help, saying, please don't let this be true, and now she's gotta go to the government for approval? 0.97

01:17:05.000 Man, screw that, I'm not all about that. 0.97

01:17:08.000 I think that's ridiculous that Kyle Rittenhouse had to justify to a court with the threat of life in prison because he was simply trying to save his own life. 0.86

01:17:16.000 And I view the issue very similarly when it comes to legitimate arguments from women who are dealing with this stuff. 0.50

01:17:23.000 It is very, very difficult to reconcile.

01:17:25.000 I can fully admit Hands down, Michelle Wolf and Lena Dunham, these people sicken me when they're celebrating this stuff and cheering for it, and women are standing outside of courtrooms taking pills, mocking it. 0.78

01:17:36.000 But the problem is, you know, I'll tell you this, it's really simple.

01:17:41.000 A pro-choice position is ridiculously close to the pro-lifers.

01:17:45.000 They're both saying, man, we really hate this.

01:17:47.000 And the pro-lifers are like, well, we don't want there to be any excuse for why they're going to get away with doing this.

01:17:52.000 And many of the pro-choicers, the legitimate ones, are like, man, but getting the government involved. 0.97

01:17:56.000 And then you have the pro-abortion people, which is the modern mainstream left, and they're celebrating this trash. 0.96

01:18:01.000 So look, I don't want the death penalty. 0.99

01:18:03.000 I don't want abortions. 0.93

01:18:04.000 I recognize sometimes people die.

01:18:06.000 I recognize sometimes there are abortions.

01:18:08.000 I don't have all the answers morally, but I just don't like the government getting involved in people's business.

01:18:12.000 Yeah, I think also, to add to your point, I think you're absolutely right.

01:18:15.000 And it's important to look at costs and benefits for when implementing a policy.

01:18:19.000 You can't just look at the benefits and the costs, or sorry, just the benefits or the costs.

01:18:23.000 When it came to COVID, people were all about lockdowns, lockdowns, and obviously they save lives.

01:18:28.000 That's true.

01:18:29.000 When it comes to COVID, but when it comes to the economy, then it's totally different calculation.

01:18:33.000 So in this case, you know, allowing, you know, being pro-choice doesn't mean that you're pro-abortion.

01:18:38.000 It's just that you think that government mandates and government power in this case is more dangerous than certain people abusing that choice.

01:18:47.000 So you're looking at the cost and deeming that to be more dangerous than the benefit.

01:18:51.000 There's an interesting potential argument here as well.

01:18:54.000 What if there was no government involvement in any abortion, but the doctor did have to have a legitimate reason?

01:19:02.000 How about that?

01:19:02.000 That's a good idea.

01:19:04.000 Well, you know, there's different spectrums here and I think one of the worst ones was what happened when a lot of very powerful eugenicists in the United States implemented a one-child policy in the United States and had a situation where the government there was forcing people to have abortions because they didn't want them to have more than one child.

01:19:23.000 So that's the inverse of a situation where the government got involved in abortions but made it mandatory for almost everyone to take it if they wanted to have a second child.

01:19:32.000 There's also a lot of very dark history when it comes to Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood, how it started, a lot of letters by Margaret Sanger that are absolutely troubling, that are absolutely worrying, and when you really delve into a lot of Government intervening in this specific realm.

01:19:50.000 I think it highlights a very sinister dark past that is worth conversing and understanding before kind of jumping into this position because I think it does play into the government's role here.

01:20:01.000 This is such an impossible moral conundrum, to be completely honest.

01:20:06.000 Let's imagine a rape victim. 0.84

01:20:08.000 Someone who was not irresponsible, someone who did not make that choice, who is now being told by the government, you are obligated to share your body and blood, your bodily autonomy is hereby revoked, you are now to provide for this other life. 0.99

01:20:23.000 If the girl wants to kill the baby, she's gonna kill the baby. 1.00

01:20:26.000 Whether the government tells her it's legal or not, We've had I've heard anecdotal stories of people going to like back alleys to get these black dark abortions under the table illegally and like she gets hurt during the thing because it's not done on the on the up and up. 1.00

01:20:41.000 She takes some sort of injury like.

01:20:43.000 You're not going to stop it.

01:20:45.000 It's been going on since the dawn of humanity, whether we've been destroying babies that aren't viable, like they come out and they have their cripple or something, and they would kill the baby and then... The Spartans, man.

01:20:56.000 They would just like leave it in the woods, right?

01:20:56.000 Yeah.

01:20:58.000 And see if it survived.

01:20:59.000 To play devil's advocate on that argument, though, like that, from what I've read, the rape cases are only about 1% of cases for abortion.

01:21:09.000 Some people say that you shouldn't base policy based on the 1% of cases.

01:21:13.000 I don't think rape is an excuse for killing a baby, for terminating the life.

01:21:17.000 I think the problem though is there's a lot of very serious philosophical arguments about responsibility and choice.

01:21:23.000 A lot of people immediately go to, how could you be against the death penalty but for abortion?

01:21:27.000 It's like there's completely different philosophical arguments there.

01:21:31.000 I think you're mansplaining too much, Tim.

01:21:33.000 What about the guys who get pregnant? 0.94

01:21:35.000 And what does the woman here think about this debate? 1.00

01:21:38.000 Linda?

01:21:39.000 Oh boy, Luke, you triggered a firestorm here because I've been sitting listening and I've been thinking how wonderful it is that I've been able to maintain my silence as long as I have.

01:21:48.000 This is like my hill to die on.

01:21:50.000 This is what I really care about.

01:21:51.000 You're correct that a vanishingly small number of abortions are in fact committed because they are a result of rape or incest.

01:21:59.000 I use numbers from the Guttmacher Institute which is what Planned Parenthood uses for their numbers so they err on the side of maybe trying to pump those numbers up to kind of support the idea that abortion is actually medically necessary.

01:22:12.000 And I agree with Tim because I know people who are the result of rape and they are wonderful people Right.

01:22:17.000 They were adopted by people who care very much about them.

01:22:19.000 And of course they would much rather be alive than be dead.

01:22:23.000 And and that's why I said right.

01:22:25.000 I think the conservatives who argue the rape or incest exception I don't understand that at all.

01:22:29.000 Yeah. I don't see how it's the baby's fault that they were conceived. However there's an there's an issue of someone

01:22:34.000 being forced to share their body with someone else.

01:22:37.000 So if the government came to me right now and said, we're gonna hook up your blood to Ian because Ian needs your blood to live, I'd be like, hell no.

01:22:45.000 And they'd be like, well, you should have been more responsible.

01:22:48.000 I didn't choose that.

01:22:49.000 So that's the personal autonomy problem.

01:22:52.000 Further, the problem arises that, yeah, 1% is, you know, but, and so I think it's 99, isn't it like 99% of abortions are no reason given?

01:23:03.000 I think abortion as contraception is wrong.

01:23:07.000 But I don't know how you deal with it then when someone can just walk in there and be like, rape.

01:23:11.000 And then what do you do to the actual rape victims who are like, you can't force me to share my body with somebody else.

01:23:16.000 I didn't choose this.

01:23:17.000 I don't have the answers, man.

01:23:19.000 I think one of the most compelling arguments on the pro-life side is what Luke was alluding to earlier.

01:23:24.000 And I've looked at the data on this, that there is actually higher need for adoption than there is actual supply.

01:23:30.000 For when it comes to very young children, I believe that changes for kids after the age of like six.

01:23:35.000 Like there's an abundance of kids in foster care homes who aren't able to find parents to adopt them.

01:23:40.000 But when it comes to really young infants, from what I understand, there's a huge, huge need but it's not met with the same level of supply.

01:23:48.000 So arguably you could say that we should have pro-life policy and let people give birth to kids and give it off to adoption because there are so many parents, gay couples also, who are looking to adopt and it's very, very hard because there's a very, very low supply.

01:24:03.000 I do think that one of the things that we could do to help solve the problem of abortion is to reform the adoption system, make it simpler.

01:24:14.000 One of the problems with Roe v. Wade is that it never should have been legislated at the federal level.

01:24:18.000 Because what they found was that abortion was becoming more socially acceptable before they passed Roe v. Wade.

01:24:23.000 If they had gone state to state and said, do you guys want abortion?

01:24:26.000 And each individual state had used their 10th Amendment rights to say, we do want it, we don't want it.

01:24:32.000 Because this is not, in fact, a duty left to the federal government by the Constitution, thereby meaning it should be left to the state.

01:24:39.000 There are no emanations and penumbras in the 14th amendment that say that a woman should be allowed to remove her child's body from her body by force if necessary.

01:24:47.000 So I think that we are- you're correct that it is very nuanced and I hate to see leftists being so insane but I thank them for making my case for me because no one can look at these women standing on the steps of this building taking these abortion pills and just shouting their abortion.

01:25:04.000 Phil Labonte from All That Remains tweeted that if there's one issue that's gonna push moderates to the conservatives, it's the issue of abortion because the leftist argument on all this stuff is like, I mean, it's evil.

01:25:17.000 It is amoral, it is unethical, it is evil.

01:25:21.000 They don't treat life with value.

01:25:23.000 And look, I get it.

01:25:25.000 When they talk about moral relativism, oh yeah, I think it's a real thing.

01:25:28.000 And I think when you have a bunch of people who lack a moral framework, they have no problem Literally killing burning down buildings and celebrating it and we've seen that with the riots all throughout last year 25 directly dead as a result of the George Floyd riots and not an ounce of remorse.

01:25:43.000 In fact, they still celebrate it when when Was it arrow Aaron Danielson?

01:25:48.000 That was his name the guy in Portland who took two to the chest.

01:25:51.000 Yeah, they cheered for it Yeah When, uh, what happened after Charlottesville?

01:25:57.000 Everyone on the right mourned and said, this is terrible.

01:26:00.000 We're, we're, we're, we're shocked by this.

01:26:02.000 It's because you look at the moral foundations of these people and they don't have any.

01:26:06.000 We talk about, you know, care and fairness.

01:26:08.000 No, whatever the modern, modern leftists are, they are just a chaotic, destructive force.

01:26:15.000 They have no principles.

01:26:16.000 I'm not talking about literally everyone on the left.

01:26:16.000 There is no logic.

01:26:18.000 I'm talking about the weird cultist woke, whatever, cheering for death, taking abortion pills, celebrating the stuff.

01:26:24.000 That's just amoral outright, and to me, overtly evil.

01:26:28.000 My issue is just like, wow, I'm trying to be good, I'm trying to respect everybody, but boy is it hard when you have a woman who is an autonomous life-form with rights, and a baby who is an autonomous life-form with rights, and how do we reconcile that with what the government gets to do?

01:26:41.000 Ben Shapiro.

01:26:42.000 Brilliant argument.

01:26:44.000 That if there's one thing the state DOES do, it's protect life.

01:26:48.000 In which case, when it comes to the issue of a child, a baby, which, and life does begin at conception, any other argument otherwise is a ridiculous political argument, then the government should be involved in whether or not life is terminated.

01:27:01.000 And I want to address that one very seriously, because Look, when the sperm and the egg come together, you get unique DNA.

01:27:10.000 And from that point on, there is a unique set of DNA.

01:27:14.000 That is new life.

01:27:15.000 The new life is now created.

01:27:17.000 When we had Vosh on the show, he was talking with Charlie Kirk, and he was asked, when does he think life starts?

01:27:22.000 He was like, uh, birth?

01:27:23.000 And I'm like, so if the baby is not born from the woman, it's like not alive? 0.57

01:27:29.000 But you can have a baby at 8 months be removed via c-section and it's alive and self-sustaining.

01:27:36.000 Why is birth the point?

01:27:37.000 What does traveling through the vagina and the vulva have to do with whether or not this baby is literally living?

01:27:42.000 I've heard from people that say 3 months.

01:27:44.000 3 months is when life starts.

01:27:45.000 Because babies can't remember anything before that.

01:27:48.000 And I'm like...

01:27:49.000 So people who have, you know, serious amnesia issues or short-term memory issues and can't remember things aren't alive? 0.94

01:27:55.000 It's a ridiculous argument.

01:27:56.000 Life begins at conception. 0.97

01:27:58.000 That's, it's just, it's a political argument to say otherwise.

01:28:02.000 Moving on from there, you have a very serious conundrum of who gets to decide when a life is terminated.

01:28:07.000 I don't like the death penalty and I don't like abortion, but I recognize death and abortion. 0.74

01:28:10.000 You get a couple of skin cells in a petri dish.

01:28:12.000 It's alive.

01:28:14.000 I think that's, when does it become a human is the debate.

01:28:14.000 It's not a human.

01:28:19.000 I think, is the skin going to grow and become?

01:28:23.000 Unknown.

01:28:23.000 Well, the answer is no, Ian.

01:28:25.000 You don't know.

01:28:26.000 It's still... No, we do.

01:28:27.000 What do you mean?

01:28:27.000 I'm not talking about... I'm talking about when does the baby in utero become a human?

01:28:32.000 Like, at what point do we say... It's a lie from conception, I agree.

01:28:35.000 Living muscle tissue.

01:28:37.000 But at what point do we acknowledge human?

01:28:38.000 Is it heartbeat?

01:28:39.000 Is it a brain?

01:28:40.000 Three weeks?

01:28:41.000 Nine weeks?

01:28:42.000 Twelve weeks?

01:28:43.000 Well, it's not really human at that point yet, though.

01:28:45.000 This is such an interesting argument because If you watched a dog sperm meet a dog egg, would you ask the question, is that a dog?

01:28:56.000 Would there be any doubt in your mind that a little puppy would result from that union?

01:29:01.000 Probably not.

01:29:02.000 I don't understand why we do this with humans and not with animals.

01:29:06.000 Ian, the reason I disagree with you is that it would be like looking at a child.

01:29:10.000 And being like, it's not it's not a human because I mean, we don't know that it'll become a mature adult who can reproduce.

01:29:16.000 No, it's a zygote.

01:29:17.000 If you look at a zygote, you're arguing a different stage of human life doesn't mean it's human.

01:29:21.000 Well, you don't you don't know what it's going to become yet when you're looking at a zygote.

01:29:25.000 Unless you know that it was a human sperm and egg or a dog sperm and egg, you don't know what it's going to turn into.

01:29:31.000 I think in Ian's defense, I think the differentiation you're trying to make potentially is in terms of pain perception, potentially, you could say.

01:29:38.000 At what stage does the fetus feel pain and it's actually different?

01:29:46.000 Then that argument is like Terry Schiavo.

01:29:46.000 Arguably.

01:29:48.000 Remember that whole thing?

01:29:50.000 A person in a vegetative state isn't alive?

01:29:52.000 What if someone's in a coma, they can't respond to stimuli, you're just like, meh, they're dead.

01:29:56.000 We have no idea if they'll come to, and then a week later they wake up and say, wow, they're alive.

01:30:00.000 But sperm and egg versus an actual fetus that has a heartbeat, like in terms of feeling pain after you terminate it, it would be different.

01:30:07.000 I'm saying I don't think pain is relevant to the conversation of whether someone has rights.

01:30:10.000 There are people who literally can't feel pain.

01:30:12.000 I'm saying arguably in terms of suffering, if we're measuring based on suffering, But I don't think we are.

01:30:17.000 Like, if an old man is comatose, you know, a guy in his 60s is comatose, he has rights. 0.69

01:30:24.000 And I think there's an interesting question about, are we obligated to give him life support?

01:30:30.000 And the answer to that is probably no, but we can, and maybe it's the right thing to do.

01:30:34.000 I don't think healthcare is a human right.

01:30:36.000 If there's someone lying on the ground in the woods and they're comatose, you can be like, they will die.

01:30:40.000 Like, without assistance from someone else, they have no right to it, but we do want to save them.

01:30:45.000 When it comes to... My point is that pain is not relevant to whether or not we want someone to live or they have the right to live or anything like that.

01:30:53.000 Just because someone can feel pain or can suffer doesn't mean we let them die.

01:30:56.000 We usually choose to preserve life.

01:30:57.000 But obviously there is a difference, morally speaking.

01:30:59.000 There is some difference there.

01:31:01.000 I don't agree.

01:31:03.000 In terms of how much harm you're inflicting on just an egg in a sperm versus an actual fetus, you know, 20 weeks in.

01:31:11.000 Obviously there's a difference.

01:31:12.000 I'm not saying that that's a big difference, but it is there.

01:31:15.000 It is fair to say that we do, as a culture, treat fertilized eggs very, very differently than we would like an actual baby.

01:31:23.000 If a woman has a fertilized egg and then miscarries and doesn't know what happened and it just flushed out of the body, there's no murder trial.

01:31:30.000 There's no murder investigation.

01:31:31.000 If she gives birth to a baby and then something happens and the baby dies in the crib, the cops are going to come and try and figure out what happened. 0.56

01:31:36.000 So there's a certain point where the government would intervene and wouldn't intervene.

01:31:40.000 That being said, I think the government is doing a heck of a bad job and that's why I don't like them.

01:31:45.000 I don't like the government and the system in a lot of ways and a lot of things they do.

01:31:48.000 So one of the things that I was going to add to Luke's point from earlier was that I feel like a lot of this would be resolved if we reduce the size of the government and reduce their overreach.

01:31:58.000 If we kind of scaled back the involvement that they have in the adoption process, if we scaled it all the way back from telling women what they can and can't do. 0.56

01:32:06.000 If we left it to doctors, if we left it to mothers. 0.97

01:32:09.000 But I, at the end of the day, I have to say that I genuinely feel that this is a cultural problem and we need to fix the culture. 0.62

01:32:17.000 I figured it out.

01:32:18.000 What?

01:32:18.000 You just gotta pull a Trump, a big ask, right?

01:32:20.000 Do you guys know what the big ask is?

01:32:21.000 Nice, yeah.

01:32:22.000 So a big ask, you know, read Art of the Deal, right?

01:32:25.000 That's Trump's book, right?

01:32:26.000 And it's basically like, you know, maybe I want to sell, what's a good example?

01:32:30.000 I want to I wanna hire you to do a job.

01:32:36.000 And so what you do with the big ask is you'll say, okay, I'll do this job.

01:32:41.000 What you really want is 50 bucks.

01:32:43.000 But you know, if you start with 50, I'm gonna negotiate down.

01:32:46.000 So you say, I want 500.

01:32:47.000 And then I go, whoa, whoa, that's crazy!

01:32:50.000 And then you go, well, 500's my number.

01:32:52.000 And then I say, I can't do that.

01:32:53.000 And you go, okay, fine.

01:32:55.000 What if we do three?

01:32:56.000 No, no, three's still nuts.

01:32:58.000 Well, now you're getting me down a lot, bro.

01:32:59.000 Will we do 250?

01:33:01.000 Alright, $2.50.

01:33:02.000 The big ask is you ask for way more than you want so you negotiate down to where you really want to be.

01:33:07.000 It's simple.

01:33:08.000 All we have to do is have someone campaign on forced abortion. 1.00

01:33:13.000 That way everyone freaks out.

01:33:16.000 The China policy.

01:33:18.000 Ted Turner liked that one.

01:33:20.000 So did Bill Gates' dad, who was connected to Planned Parenthood.

01:33:23.000 Again, there's so much to talk about.

01:33:26.000 But that's not a policy that's too absurd, Tim.

01:33:28.000 That's a policy that many people have argued for.

01:33:30.000 They're doing it right now in China, in the Uyghur camps. 0.99

01:33:33.000 Well, you know what everyone needs to realize?

01:33:36.000 Because someone brought this up.

01:33:37.000 They said that viability is actually, you know, getting, like at 15 weeks there's been a case where a child, you know, a 15-week fetus has survived.

01:33:47.000 And so with modern technology, eventually abortion will be made illegal because a fertilized egg will be viable in right technological settings.

01:33:56.000 Think about what that means when it comes to transhumanism.

01:33:58.000 These arguments are going to get crazier and crazier.

01:34:00.000 We don't even know.

01:34:01.000 Because when we talk about forced medical procedures, like government mandates, I brought up earlier today, and I have to, it's Star Trek, when I think it was Data talking to Geordi La Forge.

01:34:11.000 For those that aren't familiar, Data is an android.

01:34:13.000 He's a robot.

01:34:15.000 I mean, he's superior, he's stronger, he's faster, he doesn't sleep.

01:34:18.000 And Geordi has cybernetic eyes.

01:34:21.000 He's blind.

01:34:22.000 So he has a prosthetic visor he wears that gives him enhanced vision.

01:34:27.000 And he's asked, I think it's by date, I could be, it's been a long time since I saw the episode, but he's asked, you know, are your eyes superior to a regular human's eyes?

01:34:37.000 And he says, well, yeah, he's like, I can see x-rays, infrared.

01:34:40.000 And then he says, then why is it not mandatory for all humans to have those implanted in them?

01:34:45.000 And it's like, well, because people, you know, have individual autonomous rights.

01:34:49.000 When we get into the policy where it's like, the COVID vaccine is going to keep you safe and keep others safe, so you have to get it.

01:34:55.000 And I'm like, yeah, so we're wearing a bulletproof vest 24-7.

01:34:59.000 Are you going to mandate that?

01:35:00.000 As we develop technology, viability could become like a day.

01:35:00.000 Yeah.

01:35:04.000 You could have an egg and a sperm meat and they're like, we have the technology to now gestate this in a machine.

01:35:09.000 And then it's going to be like, citizen, you are required to deposit your sperm as per government regulation. 0.54

01:35:16.000 They're doing that in China.

01:35:17.000 They have sperm catching machines at hospitals that literally men walk up to and they have a huge population.

01:35:24.000 What?

01:35:25.000 Someone corrected me.

01:35:25.000 It was Data and Picard.

01:35:28.000 No, this is important.

01:35:29.000 I'm sorry, Luke.

01:35:31.000 It's the episode.

01:35:31.000 I think it's called Make of a Man.

01:35:33.000 Where the philosophy of the show is brilliant.

01:35:36.000 Data is an android, and they're questioning whether or not he has human rights, whether or not he's worthy of civil rights, or he's just a washing machine, or he's just a computer.

01:35:43.000 And so he says to Picard, he's like, are Geordi's eyes not superior to human eyes?

01:35:49.000 And he's like, well, yes.

01:35:50.000 And he's like, then why is it not mandatory?

01:35:52.000 Making an important point about bodily autonomy. 0.94

01:35:54.000 I would argue that Chinese man-sucking machines are a lot more important than this kind of nerd talk, personally, myself. 0.98

01:36:00.000 That's what me and Ian were just talking about. 0.87

01:36:02.000 We have a population crisis and the Chinese have literally developed man-sucking machines that take out the sperm and they're building databases on women and fertility in Beijing. 1.00

01:36:15.000 It's absolutely crazy what's happening in China because of that one-child policy that has absolutely really messed things up socially in China. 0.65

01:36:22.000 But that's a whole other topic.

01:36:24.000 All right.

01:36:25.000 It's a good one.

01:36:25.000 Let's take Super Chats.

01:36:27.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, and go to TimCast.com, become a member.

01:36:32.000 We're going to have a members-only segment coming up around 11 or so p.m., but let's read some of these Super Chats.

01:36:38.000 And Josh Martina says, for goodness sake, Tim, that a single pro-life person has ever said you should have to petition the government to get an abortion.

01:36:43.000 Not ever.

01:36:45.000 Well, let me ask you, Lydia, would there ever be a circumstance in which abortion is allowed under your ideal system?

01:36:52.000 Yeah, actually there is one instance in which abortion should be a possibility, and Seamus disagrees with me on this.

01:37:00.000 I think, and this is what my parents thought as well, they were even way more conservative than I am, if it threatens the life of the mother.

01:37:05.000 That's the reason.

01:37:05.000 That's it.

01:37:06.000 And so if it's illegal in all other contexts, how does the mother get that abortion performed? 1.00

01:37:13.000 There's an exception?

01:37:14.000 I don't know.

01:37:15.000 So will the doctor just be like, I've decided there's an exception and we're going to do it?

01:37:19.000 Or will the doctor have to get approval from the government?

01:37:21.000 Yeah, so typically I would imagine that would be more than one doctor would need to confirm that this is actually the case.

01:37:27.000 Like she had an ectopic pregnancy and then from there on they would be like, they would I don't know.

01:37:32.000 I don't know if they'd have to go to the government.

01:37:34.000 It might be like a county or state thing where they'd need to submit a request and then go through and figure out what to do.

01:37:39.000 I think it's entirely possible to argue it's just three separate doctors from three separate practices.

01:37:45.000 You know, three independent, you know, are confirmed by an arbiter.

01:37:49.000 An arbiter, there has to be an external party is the issue.

01:37:51.000 Right.

01:37:52.000 Someone else because you could have three doctors who collude and be like we'll work together and just claim the same thing and no one can stop us.

01:37:59.000 So you would need a third party in which case who appoints the third party and regulates them.

01:38:04.000 My issue is I don't see a way this is this is accomplished unless there is government regulation directly involved and someone working at the behest to be the arbiter.

01:38:14.000 I don't like the idea.

01:38:14.000 Right.

01:38:16.000 I do think there needs to be some level of organization like that.

01:38:18.000 And this is making me wonder if there's any other kind of procedure that they do in hospital.

01:38:23.000 I know I worked in a hospital, but I didn't work in administration.

01:38:25.000 So I don't know if there are other procedures that you have to ask the government if you can do something.

01:38:29.000 That would be interesting to look into.

01:38:31.000 I'll have to check that out.

01:38:31.000 I mean, maybe it really is just the compromise of, we recognize some doctors might collude, but we accept it as reality.

01:38:39.000 In which case, there doesn't need to be government involvement, there just needs to be three doctors who confirm and agree.

01:38:43.000 But then, man, there's still the challenge of the individual who says, this is not an issue of irresponsibility or choice, I am being forced to carry another life against my will.

01:38:53.000 I think that at the end of the day, one of the nuances we need to look at is the fact that we're not going to be able to make a perfect system, unfortunately.

01:38:59.000 And I think that's just something we're going to have to live with, unfortunately.

01:39:02.000 You know, maybe what we do is we just create Ultron.

01:39:06.000 The way to bring about peace in a perfect system and to end all human strife is to end humans.

01:39:11.000 Like Bender says in Futurama, you know?

01:39:15.000 I think Bill Gates would agree with that.

01:39:18.000 Bill Gates is watching Futurama and he watches Bender go kill all humans and he goes, heh heh, I like this guy.

01:39:25.000 The coaster guy says, bold of them to assume the military would run it well.

01:39:28.000 I was vaccinated through my job in the guard.

01:39:30.000 They lost my records twice and then reprimanded me for not being vaccinated.

01:39:35.000 Wow.

01:39:35.000 I love people who just believe that the government can run things properly.

01:39:41.000 Obviously.

01:39:42.000 These leftists who are like, we want universal health care.

01:39:44.000 And it's like, imagine the DMV regulating your health care.

01:39:47.000 It was like Kramer.

01:39:47.000 It was like, we'll get the military to do it.

01:39:52.000 Come on, dude, have you seen the way they administrate stuff?

01:39:54.000 He probably hasn't.

01:39:56.000 Have you been to the DMV?

01:39:57.000 Yes, seriously.

01:39:58.000 Oh, man.

01:39:59.000 Known for its... You know, I gotta be honest, the DMVs out here in West Virginia are pretty good.

01:40:02.000 They're fast.

01:40:03.000 It's population density that really, really messes things up.

01:40:06.000 You get in these cities.

01:40:07.000 In New York, it was a disaster.

01:40:09.000 I bought a moped and I called and I'm like, does this have to be registered?

01:40:13.000 They said, yes.

01:40:14.000 And I said, how do I do it?

01:40:15.000 And they were like, just bring in the bill of sale, the receipt, bring it to the DMV, we'll take care of you.

01:40:19.000 And I went in there and not a single person understood how to deal with it.

01:40:23.000 They were all confused and they were all asking each other and then eventually they were like, we can't do it.

01:40:27.000 And then I was like, then how do I ride my bike without a plate?

01:40:29.000 And they were like, uh, you can't.

01:40:31.000 And I'm like, well, it sounds like a you problem.

01:40:34.000 And they were like, can't help you, sir.

01:40:36.000 And so I was like, okay, great.

01:40:37.000 Thanks, government.

01:40:38.000 Now I got to deal with cops who are going to be like, I don't care why.

01:40:41.000 The law is the law is.

01:40:44.000 So like basically mopeds are illegal.

01:40:45.000 They're not, by the way.

01:40:46.000 Yeah.

01:40:47.000 How did you resolve that?

01:40:49.000 I rode my bike without a license plate.

01:40:51.000 Did you ever end up getting one?

01:40:53.000 Uh, no.

01:40:54.000 Dang, that's a guy.

01:40:57.000 Yeah, well, so the problem was, I think, I don't know the exact words of the law, but because of the pedals, that arguably it was a gray zone.

01:41:09.000 And so I was like, look, if the DMV tells me there's no way to register it, and they can't, and it's not illegal, then I'm like, okay, then I guess I'll just ride it.

01:41:17.000 So there are pedals on it.

01:41:18.000 So they were like, it's not a motorcycle.

01:41:20.000 They told me they did not know how to register it and didn't think it could be done.

01:41:23.000 And thus, they didn't think it was regulated under, you know, those laws or whatever.

01:41:28.000 And I was like, I'm pretty sure it is and I have to do it.

01:41:31.000 And they were like, well, we don't and we can't, so we think you're fine.

01:41:34.000 And I was like, I never got pulled over.

01:41:37.000 Did it smell like baby diapers in there when you were in there?

01:41:39.000 No.

01:41:39.000 Those really, really deep inner city DMVs tend to smell like baby diapers.

01:41:46.000 Interesting.

01:41:47.000 Da Bob says, FB is allowing Rittenhouse praise and discussion.

01:41:50.000 I wonder if they'll remove my rolling suspensions for sharing memes.

01:41:53.000 30 days plus 30 days plus 30 days each.

01:41:55.000 Yeah, man.

01:41:57.000 All right.

01:41:58.000 You think that's bad?

01:41:59.000 Wait till the metaverse hits.

01:42:01.000 You know, I'll briefly mention this too because someone mentioned Lauren Boebert.

01:42:05.000 I think she very poorly handled the Ilhan Omar thing.

01:42:08.000 I think like, dude, you made a joke.

01:42:10.000 That's it.

01:42:11.000 Yeah.

01:42:12.000 And like Nancy Pelosi is like, she's screaming.

01:42:14.000 I would be the worst member of Congress ever if I was ever in there.

01:42:20.000 Cause I'd make jokes all the time.

01:42:21.000 And then they were like, apologize.

01:42:22.000 I'd be like, ignore it and moving on.

01:42:25.000 And they'd probably kick me out.

01:42:27.000 They legit would kick me out.

01:42:28.000 Like I wouldn't dress up.

01:42:29.000 I tell him to shove off.

01:42:31.000 I don't know.

01:42:32.000 I think Lauren shouldn't have apologized.

01:42:34.000 I think she shouldn't have even tried.

01:42:35.000 I think she should have been like, Hey, hi.

01:42:36.000 I told the joke at it.

01:42:38.000 You know, yeah, I know.

01:42:42.000 Eric A says there's a clip from 10 years ago of Jim Cramer talking about things he would do to manipulate the market when he was a hedgie.

01:42:49.000 Said it required someone to enforce the rules.

01:42:52.000 Felt like I had to take a shower after watching it.

01:42:54.000 Ugh.

01:42:55.000 You see that hedge fund billionaire who said there's going to be a civil war?

01:42:58.000 No.

01:42:59.000 Yeah, he's worth $20 billion.

01:43:01.000 And he said in the next five years, there's a 30% chance of a civil war-like conflict in the United States.

01:43:06.000 Seems higher than that, but okay.

01:43:07.000 Oh boy.

01:43:07.000 Huh.

01:43:07.000 He makes his money off of predictions. Literally, that's what Forbes said.

01:43:13.000 He places investments in bets and then makes money off of them.

01:43:15.000 He's one of the most successful guys doing it, and he thinks a civil war is coming.

01:43:18.000 Oh boy.

01:43:19.000 What a crackpot! The stupidest thing ever. There's no reason for people to fight. 1.00

01:43:23.000 I'm gonna say it.

01:43:24.000 In the Civil War, the American Civil War, there was a strong moral issue.

01:43:28.000 The North despised slavery.

01:43:31.000 It was moral.

01:43:32.000 The South, it was an issue strongly of convenience for them and state rights, but they didn't view it as a moral repugnancy.

01:43:38.000 They were just like, hey, we can do what we want.

01:43:40.000 People in the North were legit like, I will storm my way into your state and literally kill people to stop slavery.

01:43:48.000 There were a lot of abolitionists who were like morally driven.

01:43:53.000 The issue of abortion.

01:43:54.000 Let's say come June 2020, the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade.

01:43:59.000 All the red states ban abortion, all the blue states don't.

01:44:03.000 People in the red states, for the most part, those that are pro-life, have a strong moral position.

01:44:07.000 It is wrong and it must be stopped.

01:44:09.000 But the pro-abortion people and many of the pro-choicers are basically just like, as a matter of convenience, I don't know, I think it should be allowed, but whatever.

01:44:17.000 There's no, in my opinion, there's very few people who would storm into red states demanding abortion facilities be opened.

01:44:25.000 In which case, I think it's entirely possible that abortion is a key issue which could trigger very serious civil conflict.

01:44:32.000 I would imagine it would be government overreach for COVID regulations if anything was going to spark physical violent conflict.

01:44:40.000 That it would be people kicking doors down, trying to force-inoculate people.

01:44:44.000 I can't take my guns.

01:44:46.000 Or mandating like the third shot or the fourth shot in schools.

01:44:50.000 Once you get to that point in a year or two years, then things could start getting really dystopian.

01:44:55.000 I can agree to a certain extent, but I'm not convinced it'll be rolled out the way you think it'll be.

01:44:55.000 A few months.

01:45:00.000 I don't think they're going to go door to door and pin people down.

01:45:02.000 Yeah, be too overt.

01:45:03.000 Right.

01:45:04.000 What's going to happen is they're going to, you know, they're going to create perverse incentives and things like that.

01:45:09.000 But the issue of abortion is like, I mean, didn't Seamus say this?

01:45:15.000 That, like, abortion could be one day abolished like slavery and viewed much the same way?

01:45:20.000 I say the exact same thing.

01:45:21.000 It's a strong moral position.

01:45:23.000 People are willing to like... It just doesn't seem right to fight and kill to prevent killing.

01:45:29.000 What do you mean?

01:45:30.000 That's literally what war is.

01:45:31.000 Every war ever.

01:45:32.000 I mean, it's one thing to kill the slave master and release the slave, but who are you going to kill to prevent the mother from killing the baby?

01:45:38.000 The mother?

01:45:38.000 No, you have facilities that operate.

01:45:41.000 You're just going to burn down a bunch of buildings?

01:45:43.000 They'll just do it in other buildings.

01:45:44.000 We're talking about war.

01:45:45.000 We're not talking about insurgency.

01:45:46.000 Like, who would they kill?

01:45:47.000 It doesn't make sense, though.

01:45:49.000 To fight to stop abortion.

01:45:51.000 How do you fight to stop slavery?

01:45:53.000 I mean, what would you do?

01:45:54.000 Burn a farm down?

01:45:54.000 Yes, Sherman literally did.

01:45:56.000 March to the sea, burning down cities and farms.

01:45:58.000 They had to remove the slave owners from power. 0.94

01:46:00.000 So exactly.

01:46:01.000 So you want to stop abortion? 0.67

01:46:02.000 What would people do?

01:46:03.000 They would target doctors and facilities and destroy them.

01:46:05.000 And of course, slaves still existed in the Civil War.

01:46:08.000 They had to send the Union soldiers down to Texas.

01:46:11.000 And that's what Juneteenth was about.

01:46:12.000 It took like three years to finally pick, hey, you're not supposed to be doing this.

01:46:15.000 They still did.

01:46:16.000 I'm saying, I'm not saying it's right or wrong or whatever your opinion is, I'm just saying, the pro-life people have a strong moral position.

01:46:22.000 They say this must be not allowed.

01:46:24.000 And the people who are on the side of pro-choice and pro-life, I'm sorry, pro-choice and pro-abortion, are not that morally convicted to it.

01:46:33.000 That's for sure.

01:46:34.000 It's just a matter of priorities, I think.

01:46:34.000 Right.

01:46:36.000 Freedom, or safety, or life.

01:46:38.000 Other people, like people, have different values, and so they have different decisions on these complex issues.

01:46:43.000 I'd like to hear from someone that experienced the Roe vs. Wade phenomenon, went through it as a female.

01:46:49.000 That would be interesting.

01:46:50.000 Let's read some more.

01:46:51.000 We got Bugga Off.

01:46:52.000 He says, What do we call it when someone tries to force something inside of someone else, even by coercion?

01:46:58.000 The Harvey Weinstein.

01:46:59.000 Insertion.

01:47:01.000 Forceful insertion.

01:47:02.000 We call it an international arrival bungalow.

01:47:08.000 Tara Anne Simmons says, isn't this all a part of the Great Reset?

01:47:13.000 I believe so!

01:47:14.000 Seems like it.

01:47:15.000 Yeah, I think they're doing the rat experiment on us.

01:47:18.000 And I mean that somewhat facetiously.

01:47:19.000 I just think... No, no, they are.

01:47:22.000 I don't know if it's as intentional as I think it's...

01:47:27.000 I really don't believe there's a grand nucleus controlling everything, but I believe the circumstances we're in will result in the same outcome.

01:47:36.000 I don't know if it's relevant to be like, here's who I think is doing something.

01:47:40.000 It's happening regardless.

01:47:41.000 We're under lockdown.

01:47:43.000 We all freak out.

01:47:44.000 Everyone loses their minds.

01:47:44.000 They lift the lockdown.

01:47:45.000 Everyone goes, oh, thank heavens.

01:47:47.000 And now they're like, lockdown again, but this time 10 times longer.

01:47:51.000 And people are going to be like, ooh, we'll get out of it soon.

01:47:53.000 I love the South Park episode.

01:47:55.000 I didn't see it.

01:47:56.000 Have you guys seen it?

01:47:56.000 I saw part of it tonight.

01:47:57.000 I did.

01:47:58.000 It pretty much pokes fun at the Great Reset.

01:48:00.000 It's amazing.

01:48:01.000 It's incredible.

01:48:02.000 They're all adults.

01:48:03.000 Children taken over by VR.

01:48:04.000 There's Chinese symbols everywhere.

01:48:06.000 There's people eating bugs.

01:48:08.000 Meat is banned.

01:48:09.000 I love that South Park special.

01:48:11.000 It was good.

01:48:11.000 And it was like 40 years later and COVID finally ends.

01:48:14.000 Yeah, no, no, no.

01:48:15.000 Finally, finally, just finally stops being relevant in everyone's adults.

01:48:20.000 All the, you know, all the four main children characters are all old and Cartman is, he's a rabbi.

01:48:31.000 Kyle's a rabbi? 0.56

01:48:32.000 No, no, not Kyle.

01:48:32.000 Cartman.

01:48:33.000 Cartman's a rabbi.

01:48:34.000 All right, I'll definitely watch that.

01:48:37.000 You have to.

01:48:38.000 All right, let's see.

01:48:42.000 Mark Sermon says, true journalism criteria.

01:48:44.000 All sources are linked, no ads beyond self-promotion, based on primary sources, not other articles, tweets, etc.

01:48:51.000 I think that's high tier.

01:48:54.000 I think you can do journalism, but I do think sources should be linked.

01:48:57.000 I think ads are fine, to be completely honest.

01:48:59.000 And I think based on primary sources is, I would say, 9 out of 10.

01:49:04.000 9 out of 10.

01:49:06.000 There may be some circumstances where you have additional input, but 99.9% of the time, I think, primary sources.

01:49:15.000 And that's because I don't want to be completely absolute, but all sources should always be linked.

01:49:20.000 And the challenge there is when you have unnamed sources.

01:49:23.000 I'm not a big fan.

01:49:25.000 I'm not a big fan.

01:49:27.000 But if you have the trust, I guess.

01:49:29.000 I've had unnamed sources before, so it is what it is.

01:49:34.000 Yeah, there's a clip from that Gunner guy, Michael Gunner in Northern Territories, who's like, if you oppose vaccine mandates, you're anti-vax, absolutely, and I will not!

01:49:39.000 It was a huge black pill rep American freedom Yeah, there was that there's a clip from that gunner guy

01:49:44.000 Michael Gunner and North Northern Territories Who's like if you oppose vaccine mandates your anti-vax? 0.84

01:49:50.000 Absolutely, and I will not and I'm like man that guy is insane

01:49:54.000 the most Scary thing about that is that he is right technically as

01:50:01.000 per the new dictionary definition Is that anti-vaxxer now means being against mandates or

01:50:06.000 giving aid?

01:50:07.000 comfort or support to people who are anti-lockdown.

01:50:12.000 Yeah, if you look at the actual like polls, by the way, like Americans who are actually anti-vax It's like 5% or 8% It's very very small But now you're gonna have like a much bigger group of now anti-vax like 20-30% or whatever it is that actually oppose mandates or maybe more than that Ben D says, you hear Baldwin says he never pulled the trigger.

01:50:32.000 Should we talk about that?

01:50:32.000 Oh man.

01:50:33.000 We talked about it a little bit before the show.

01:50:35.000 He's lying.

01:50:35.000 Yeah.

01:50:36.000 It's a liar. 0.98

01:50:37.000 There might be a kind of gun that goes off just from pulling the hammer back and letting it go. 0.99

01:50:43.000 There's a possibility for that as well.

01:50:44.000 Well, that's a, that's a malfunction.

01:50:46.000 He has a single action revolver.

01:50:48.000 You pull the hammer, the, the, the, you know, the cylinder spins and then the trigger is ready to be pulled.

01:50:55.000 I think, you know, it may be possible that Alec Baldwin doesn't understand when you pull the hammer back, the trigger goes back.

01:51:01.000 And so he didn't realize that it's like, it's like a hair trigger.

01:51:04.000 It's like you tap it.

01:51:06.000 And, uh, the other question is, um, uh, you didn't pull the trigger, but you pulled the hammer and pointed it at this woman and the gun went off.

01:51:14.000 It's like, bro, I don't, I don't care if you did or didn't, whatever you believe.

01:51:17.000 Like you pulled out a gun, you pointed at a person, you pulled the hammer back.

01:51:21.000 Somebody died.

01:51:21.000 It went off.

01:51:22.000 And when trauma goes down, people's memories sometimes blacks out, so he might not remember pulling the trigger.

01:51:27.000 Or he's just saying what he has to say.

01:51:29.000 He doesn't want to go to prison.

01:51:31.000 Yeah, he was crying.

01:51:33.000 Like, he was legit crying.

01:51:34.000 His eyes were all puffy.

01:51:35.000 It was bad.

01:51:37.000 Alright, let's see.

01:51:37.000 We got Talon's Andrew.

01:51:40.000 You know what I think people should do?

01:51:42.000 I think just get all your buddies who work in that field and just start your own factory, man.

01:51:45.000 workers need help fighting back, please help get the word out. We have a petition on change

01:51:50.000 titled Save Semiconductors. You know what I think people should do? I think just get

01:51:55.000 all your buddies who work in that field and just start your own factory, man. I mean,

01:51:59.000 Not gonna be easy, but start small and just start working on it.

01:52:02.000 I'm down.

01:52:02.000 If it's possible.

01:52:03.000 I'm not saying it is.

01:52:04.000 Graphene semiconductors?

01:52:05.000 Definitely possible.

01:52:06.000 But let's just create that parallel economy they want so dear. 1.00

01:52:09.000 You guys want to make some turbostatic graphene with me?

01:52:12.000 There you go.

01:52:13.000 Make superconductors?

01:52:15.000 A user named Emmanuel Goldstein says, are we going to address the elephant in the room that Trump was on the Lolita Express?

01:52:22.000 And as I stated, as per Mr. Bill Gates, if you're a wealthy elite and you are flying on the Lolita Express, and it's called the Lolita Express, I can only assume you're doing one thing, and that goes for Trump, same as it goes for anybody else.

01:52:34.000 Yeah, I made a video theorizing what happened to Trump and Epstein on my Luke Uncensored video.

01:52:41.000 Uh, but I think, you know, I think, you know, it's an extortion operation.

01:52:46.000 It wouldn't surprise me if Trump was caught up in the extortion part.

01:52:50.000 And come on, like the way Trump talks about women paying, what'd he pay?

01:52:54.000 A hundred grand for a Starmie Daniels?

01:52:56.000 He gets invited to the silent team as anybody else.

01:53:00.000 That's a bad business deal.

01:53:02.000 And he wrote the art of the deal.

01:53:03.000 I mean, come on.

01:53:04.000 Someone else wrote it.

01:53:05.000 I think he put his name on it.

01:53:07.000 I mean, maybe $10,000, but $100,000?

01:53:09.000 But hold on.

01:53:09.000 I mean, what's the guy worth?

01:53:10.000 He's a billionaire.

01:53:12.000 He probably pulled out a random wad of cash, and he's like, oh, I got $150,000 on me.

01:53:15.000 I'll give you $100,000.

01:53:16.000 It costs him like $10,000 just to count the money in hours that he's losing in time.

01:53:21.000 Yeah, he probably just threw a wad of cash.

01:53:22.000 $10,000 a minute or something.

01:53:23.000 But yeah, we heard reports in the Maxwell trial that Trump was very much flying.

01:53:28.000 And the pilot, I believe, called Trump Epstein's wingman, saying that it was, yeah, with young ladies and all that stuff, Trump gets no special treatment from me.

01:53:36.000 If Bill Gates is on the plane and we're gonna call him out, I'd love to pull up a video of Trump stuttering and stammering.

01:53:40.000 If he does, you know, what did Trump say about Maxwell?

01:53:43.000 He wishes her well for her trial.

01:53:46.000 Which is an odd comment.

01:53:48.000 Yep.

01:53:49.000 AskDummy says, might sound too silly, but to be honest, I think the medium of air is up for grabs.

01:53:54.000 Really?

01:53:55.000 Meaning, who has legal responsibility over the quality of air in my lungs now?

01:53:58.000 Or, say at work, is my respiratory system an extension of my 400 pound co-worker who just eats all day? 0.80

01:54:04.000 Yeah, there's something really gross about sitting next to some disgusting person that's not taking care of themselves. 0.96

01:54:09.000 Bro. 0.98

01:54:09.000 Just smelling up the room. 0.98

01:54:11.000 I was on a plane once and it was, what were we on?

01:54:16.000 We were like on an Embraer, a CRJ.

01:54:18.000 So they're not very big.

01:54:19.000 They only have two seats on each side.

01:54:21.000 And so it's one dude and he was probably 300 something, 400 pounds.

01:54:25.000 And the lady comes by with the food cart where they sell stuff. 0.55

01:54:27.000 They have the snack box, they have the sandwiches.

01:54:30.000 And she looks over at me and she's just like, would you like to buy any food?

01:54:34.000 And I was like, oh, I'm good.

01:54:35.000 And the guy next to me goes, yeah, I'll have the poor boy.

01:54:38.000 And she's like, okay, I'll also have another poor boy.

01:54:41.000 I'll take two snack boxes.

01:54:43.000 Do you have chips?

01:54:44.000 I'll take two bags of those.

01:54:45.000 Do you have anything to drink?

01:54:46.000 I'll take three Pepsis.

01:54:48.000 Yes, three.

01:54:49.000 Okay, thank you.

01:54:50.000 You don't have to open them.

01:54:51.000 And also, do you have the nut package?

01:54:54.000 I'll take another snack box.

01:54:55.000 I'm not exaggerating.

01:54:57.000 I was sitting there like, whoa.

01:54:58.000 And the dude, I'm like, you're flying in the wrong class, man.

01:55:02.000 Yeah, seriously.

01:55:02.000 This was a long time ago.

01:55:03.000 The good old days.

01:55:07.000 You can't always get first class because of availability, but I'd often get upgraded, and then you're sitting in the bigger seat.

01:55:13.000 Now, it's like, if I have to fly, it's gotta be first class, mainly because I work morning show, night show, and then we had to wake up, when we flew to Austin, it was like, wake up Saturday, first thing.

01:55:23.000 I'm like, dude, my head will literally fall off if I'm dealing with the stress of sitting in coach and having to deal with that kind of nightmare.

01:55:29.000 Oh, people need to understand this.

01:55:34.000 First class exists for a reason.

01:55:35.000 True.

01:55:36.000 If you're flying just like one time and you're going on vacation, I've flown coach hundreds, thousands of times.

01:55:42.000 No joke, thousands.

01:55:43.000 No problem.

01:55:44.000 But when I had to fly when I was working for these companies like twice a week, I was like, yo, I literally can't handle flying.

01:55:51.000 I would fly in on a morning and then fly out at night.

01:55:53.000 And I'm like, please spare me dealing with this.

01:55:57.000 And so that's why they have the rewards program.

01:55:58.000 So typically, I'd fly first class because I was like an elite member.

01:56:01.000 I'd flown so much.

01:56:02.000 These days, I have like the special, you know, I still have the special account or whatever, so I don't gotta worry about it.

01:56:07.000 I have like a million frequent flyer miles.

01:56:11.000 All right.

01:56:12.000 Mason Wolfie says, $20 says federal military enforcement leads to separation of states and the activation of militia groups throughout the U.S.

01:56:18.000 Not saying it will, just a guess.

01:56:21.000 I think abortion's gonna play a big role in this.

01:56:23.000 I really do.

01:56:23.000 I think so.

01:56:24.000 To be honest.

01:56:25.000 I'm not feeling that.

01:56:27.000 You don't think so?

01:56:28.000 No, I look at how they said what was Oklahoma's National Guard, they were going to turn it into a militia.

01:56:33.000 That, to me, is federal government saying, we are basically renouncing our authority over you, Oklahoma.

01:56:39.000 If you're going to start doing that to states, states are not going to take your laws very seriously.

01:56:45.000 Ben H says Trump did not focus on prison reform with the FIRST STEP Act.

01:56:49.000 The goal is to reduce unnecessarily long prison sentences, improve conditions in prisons, and enact post-prison rehabilitation programs.

01:56:55.000 I love it.

01:56:55.000 did focus on prison reform with the first EPACT.

01:56:58.000 Reduce unnecessarily long prison sentences, improve conditions in prisons,

01:57:01.000 and enact post-prison rehabilitation programs.

01:57:03.000 I love it. It's fantastic.

01:57:04.000 Yeah, he released so many people that were in prison for like decades and they came out

01:57:08.000 and they were so happy and so grateful.

01:57:10.000 And I think the programs to actually help rehabilitate Like not just like let them off on the streets and then commit crimes again.

01:57:17.000 We know recidivism rates are so so high.

01:57:19.000 The people who recommit crimes like 60-70%.

01:57:21.000 So like actually giving people programs where they can educate themselves or acquire skills to apply them in trades like plumbing or electrician or whatever it is.

01:57:30.000 That's very very important.

01:57:32.000 Now do Julian Assange.

01:57:34.000 Yeah, maybe you're right.

01:57:35.000 Maybe what we should do is at the first sign of any potential crime, we put you in solitary for the rest of your life.

01:57:42.000 Oh, interesting.

01:57:43.000 Just instantly, without trial.

01:57:45.000 You ever see Judge Dredd?

01:57:47.000 You ever read it?

01:57:48.000 Yeah.

01:57:48.000 Yeah, they're judge, jury, and executioner right there on the street.

01:57:50.000 It's faster, it's easier.

01:57:51.000 Very fast.

01:57:52.000 It's actually a really interesting concept, too.

01:57:54.000 We were talking to Andrew Branca of the Law of Self-Defense, and he was just talking about how there's too many criminals for the courts to effectively deal with them.

01:58:02.000 My response is like, that's too bad for the state.

01:58:04.000 If they don't have the time to give a hearing, release them.

01:58:07.000 It is better that ten guilty persons go free than one innocent person suffer.

01:58:11.000 From that idea, though, you end up with someone writing Judge Dredd.

01:58:14.000 Well, because there's too many criminals, make the judge and the cop and the jury one person who can go out and judge people.

01:58:22.000 It's a cool sci-fi concept.

01:58:24.000 Yeah, it was pretty cool.

01:58:25.000 It's a little like and what's his name?

01:58:27.000 Well, they did the new one with oh with Carl Urban.

01:58:31.000 No, I haven't seen that.

01:58:32.000 Yeah, I think yeah.

01:58:33.000 Yeah, that was Sylvester Stallone.

01:58:34.000 It was a little cheesy.

01:58:35.000 Yeah.

01:58:36.000 Yeah, definitely got potential.

01:58:37.000 I like the concept and flying cars.

01:58:39.000 Yep, just straight up killing people.

01:58:40.000 I don't know, man.

01:58:41.000 It's an interesting concept as to the, you know, congestion.

01:58:47.000 Not something we want to happen.

01:58:48.000 I would like to see webcams more utilized in prison.

01:58:51.000 And maybe for people that have an interest in learning a trade, they could do it on the internet and take classes every day.

01:58:56.000 And then you could have like prison guards watch them.

01:58:59.000 Just don't leave James Comey's daughter in charge of that project.

01:59:03.000 You know, we should talk about Wyatt Anderson says Tim and crew, if the second Civil War happens, would you fight or

01:59:10.000 be a war correspondence? I mean, neither.

01:59:16.000 I mean, I guess we would keep doing the show.

01:59:19.000 I don't know.

01:59:20.000 I don't know why that would change.

01:59:21.000 Unless YouTube was like, oh, your opinions are bad and we're in a civil war so they delete us or something.

01:59:25.000 We'd probably just keep, you know, doing the show.

01:59:27.000 I think we should definitely talk a little bit about this because I think it was Slate wrote an article saying, which side are you on?

01:59:33.000 The second civil war is coming.

01:59:35.000 And they were like, we're not saying it's a guarantee, but who will, which side, it's time to choose.

01:59:38.000 Like it's, it was a crazy article.

01:59:40.000 And it showed like a proud boy with a mask on or something. 0.99

01:59:42.000 And I'm like, man, you're crazy. 0.82

01:59:44.000 Information is key during war.

01:59:46.000 And that's why through, before many wars start, all dissemination of information is usually centralized by the state.

01:59:54.000 So if there was a conflict, I don't think there would be things like YouTube and open debate and discussions.

02:00:00.000 I think all of that would be out the window immediately.

02:00:02.000 Salon wrote it.

02:00:03.000 In the coming second American Civil War, which side are you on?

02:00:07.000 I think that's so reductionary because I don't think they're just going to be two sides.

02:00:12.000 Right.

02:00:12.000 Look at the photo that they decided to put up with this.

02:00:15.000 Oh, wonderful.

02:00:16.000 I think it looks like Bane.

02:00:17.000 Yeah.

02:00:18.000 But like America Bane.

02:00:19.000 I like it though.

02:00:20.000 I like it.

02:00:21.000 Does he have a shield?

02:00:22.000 Can we scroll down a little bit?

02:00:25.000 He does have a shield though.

02:00:27.000 So yeah, man, you know what I think?

02:00:28.000 I think we'll talk about that in the... We'll talk about the member segment.

02:00:33.000 We'll get into a lot of that stuff.

02:00:35.000 And we'll just read one more here.

02:00:37.000 Mark B says, why no comparisons of the vaccine mandates to the number of the beast?

02:00:41.000 It is here.

02:00:42.000 Uh, we've, we've talked about that.

02:00:43.000 We talked about how it says that, are you familiar with, uh, was it Revelation?

02:00:47.000 Yeah.

02:00:47.000 Revelation.

02:00:47.000 Yeah, Revelation, singular.

02:00:49.000 Is it, it's singular?

02:00:50.000 I think so.

02:00:51.000 Uh, it's- Oh, right, yeah, I've heard about it, yeah.

02:00:52.000 The Mark of the Beast, you would not be able to buy, sell, or trade unless you had the Mark of the Beast.

02:00:56.000 Interesting.

02:00:56.000 I didn't know that.

02:00:57.000 Yeah.

02:00:58.000 And then someone superchatted it to us and I was like, what?

02:01:00.000 The Bible wouldn't talk about trading or selling?

02:01:03.000 Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

02:01:03.000 Like, in that context, that's weird.

02:01:04.000 Well, yeah.

02:01:05.000 I know, like, I didn't realize that.

02:01:08.000 The Mark of the Beast was just like a sign you were a member or something.

02:01:11.000 And then I read it and I was like, oh, yo, that's crazy.

02:01:14.000 I err on the side these days that interests are using the story of the Bible and Revelation and then making it happen as opposed to like, it was going to happen all along.

02:01:25.000 That's where I'm at now.

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02:01:39.000 And man, at this point, we have, what, hundreds of members-only segments you can watch about a variety of issues, behind-the-scenes content as well.

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02:02:01.000 Rav, you want to shout anything out?

02:02:02.000 Yeah, I just started a substack to write about psychedelics, meditation, spirituality.

02:02:07.000 Ravarora.substack.com.

02:02:09.000 I'm trying to get more and more subscribers so I can write about my experiences on MDMA, DMT, psilocybin coming up in the next six months and hopefully share with readers these experiences so that they can have their own.

02:02:20.000 We'll talk about that too in the member center.

02:02:22.000 Ian's ears sparked up, by the way.

02:02:27.000 Most of it, yeah.

02:02:28.000 I've only puffed on DMT.

02:02:29.000 I've never gone broken through yet.

02:02:31.000 Well, we'll talk about that.

02:02:32.000 There's a lot of interesting discussions we could have about that.

02:02:35.000 I don't want to give people DMT blue balls. 0.50

02:02:37.000 Yeah.

02:02:39.000 Tune in for the full experience.

02:02:41.000 I never thought I would ever hear that in my life.

02:02:45.000 I also have my own YouTube channel.

02:02:47.000 It's youtube.com forward slash we are change.

02:02:49.000 I was translating German again today.

02:02:52.000 I had a lot of fun with it.

02:02:53.000 People really enjoyed it.

02:02:54.000 It was absolutely bonkers and totally facetious.

02:02:57.000 And if you want to see it again, youtube.com forward slash we are change.

02:03:01.000 Hope to see some of you guys there.

02:03:02.000 Thanks for having me.

02:03:03.000 Thank you guys so much for coming.

02:03:04.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

02:03:05.000 Check me at iancrossland.net.

02:03:06.000 If you want to check it, get in touch with my socials.

02:03:08.000 Catch you later.

02:03:09.000 Thank you guys for bearing with me and my impassioned arguments about pro-life as I always bring.

02:03:14.000 If you guys would like to see more of my insane but well-researched arguments against abortion, you are more than welcome to follow me at Sour Patchlets on Twitter.

02:03:23.000 So, a few minutes before the show, I was pulling up on my phone, my Google Drive, and I was talking to some of the people here.

02:03:30.000 We're working on recording some more music, so we've got some guests here.

02:03:33.000 And I was like, let me see if I can find some of the recordings I have, maybe I can send you.

02:03:36.000 And so I went to my Google Drive and I searched for music.

02:03:39.000 And then this music folder pops up and I click it and I see a bunch of names of songs I don't recognize and I'm like, what is this?

02:03:45.000 I don't know what this is.

02:03:46.000 And so I look and there's like lyrics and I'm like, what?

02:03:49.000 I didn't write this.

02:03:49.000 What is this?

02:03:50.000 And then there's a video of this like dude with like short brown hair and some like red guitar.

02:03:55.000 And I was like, what the hell is this?

02:03:57.000 And I play the video and I don't recognize this guy at all.

02:04:01.000 And then he starts singing and I'm like, that's Ian!

02:04:03.000 That's a good song.

02:04:05.000 That song is hot.

02:04:07.000 Anyway, thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 02, 2021

Timcast IRL - CNBC Host Calls For Military To Enforce National Vax Mandate w-Rav Arora

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