Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Germany Locks Down Unvaxxed, Plans MANDATORY Vaccines w-Jon Miltimore

00:00:01.000 Germany has announced lockdowns for people who are unvaccinated, very similar to what we saw in Australia.

00:00:08.000 And it was funny, I'm sorry, not Australia, Austria.

00:00:10.000 Australia is way worse, actually.

00:00:11.000 They're putting people in camps, but we'll get to that.

00:00:13.000 In Austria, they announced this.

00:00:14.000 Then a couple of weeks later, they were like, eh, you know what?

00:00:16.000 We're locking everybody down, even if you are vaccinated. 0.51

00:00:20.000 Germany is also planning mandatory vaccinations by government force.

00:00:25.000 So this is what we can expect.

00:00:26.000 I think in the U.S.

00:00:27.000 we'll probably see lockdowns.

00:00:28.000 Joe Biden says he doesn't want them.

00:00:31.000 For now, if people get vaccinated.

00:00:34.000 So we'll see how that plays out.

00:00:36.000 But we also have this interesting story.

00:00:38.000 We talked about it a little bit the other day.

00:00:39.000 This billionaire says he believes there's a 30% chance in the next 10 years we'll have a civil war-like conflict in the U.S.

00:00:46.000 And maybe he's wrong.

00:00:47.000 I don't know.

00:00:47.000 He's not the first person to say it.

00:00:49.000 And maybe all we're really getting is a bunch of different people repeating each other and believing each other.

00:00:53.000 But I think based on what we've seen with red states, blue states, now Roe v. Wade, people believe will be overturned come June.

00:01:00.000 Blue states are going to lose their mind. 0.94

00:01:02.000 There's already antifa violence.

00:01:03.000 And now we have a study from Harvard that says millennials actually fear civil war.

00:01:09.000 So that'll be interesting.

00:01:10.000 We'll talk about that.

00:01:11.000 And we've got to talk about Democrats, man.

00:01:13.000 A red wave is coming.

00:01:15.000 19 Democrats have abandoned their seats.

00:01:17.000 Well more than what the Republicans actually need to take the House.

00:01:21.000 So it should be fascinating.

00:01:22.000 And we've got really big news Rumble has effectively sold to an institutional investment firm via a SPAC, a special... What is SPAC?

00:01:33.000 A special... Oh no, I'm sorry.

00:01:35.000 Hold this up.

00:01:36.000 I forgot what it's called.

00:01:37.000 It's an acquisition company.

00:01:39.000 I'm just forgetting the word.

00:01:41.000 But anyway, the idea is they've teamed up with this institutional investment firm to go public through a shell company, and a lot of people are saying, wow, there it is.

00:01:50.000 Your free speech will only go so far as the public investment is willing to tolerate.

00:01:55.000 So, the end of the free speech there.

00:01:57.000 SPAC, Special Purpose Acquisition Company.

00:02:00.000 It's created just to make the acquisition and then it becomes part of Rumble once the acquisition is fulfilled.

00:02:05.000 Well no, Rumble becomes that company.

00:02:07.000 So it's basically, long story short, institutional investors are now the advisors to Rumble and have a huge role and are merging with them and that also means that locals Which is a part of that, which sold to Rumble, is now all involved in that, and I think this is possibly a good thing, but I think short-term good, long-term apocalyptic bad.

00:02:32.000 It exploited people in a lot of ways, and I'm not happy about it, but we'll get into all that stuff.

00:02:37.000 We got some great people hanging out with us.

00:02:38.000 We got John Miltimore from FEE.

00:02:41.000 The Foundation for Economic Education.

00:02:44.000 Happy to be here, Tim.

00:02:45.000 Right on, man.

00:02:46.000 What do you do?

00:02:47.000 I'm the managing editor at Fee.

00:02:49.000 We evangelize on free markets, economics.

00:02:53.000 We're a libertarian group.

00:02:55.000 Been around since, I think, 1946.

00:02:56.000 Wow.

00:02:57.000 Amazing.

00:02:58.000 Cool.

00:02:58.000 Well, we got a lot to talk about.

00:03:00.000 We'll talk about the acquisition and free speech and all that stuff.

00:03:02.000 That'll be fun.

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00:03:47.000 Ian Crossland, what's up?

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00:06:28.000 Let's get into this first story we got from CNN.

00:06:31.000 I love using CNN as a source when we have horrifying stories because now it has to be true, right?

00:06:37.000 Germany locks down unvaccinated people as leaders plan to make shots compulsory.

00:06:43.000 CNN says, Unvaccinated people will be banned from accessing all but the most essential businesses, such as supermarkets and pharmacies, to curb the spread of the coronavirus.

00:06:52.000 Upgoing Chancellor Angela Merkel and her successor Olaf Scholz announced Thursday following crisis talks with regional leaders, those who have recently recovered from COVID-19 are not covered by the ban.

00:07:02.000 The pair also backed proposals for mandatory vaccinations, which if voted through the parliament, could take effect from February at the earliest.

00:07:10.000 Okay, this is happening.

00:07:12.000 It has been two years.

00:07:14.000 And they're still saying, don't worry, if we do this, it'll stop the spread of COVID.

00:07:19.000 People have said COVID is endemic.

00:07:22.000 It's a part of our lives now.

00:07:23.000 It'll be seasonal like the flu.

00:07:25.000 Let me just add to that, the authoritarianism is now endemic as well.

00:07:29.000 Countries will keep implementing completely BS policies.

00:07:33.000 They'll keep expanding the mandates.

00:07:35.000 And my understanding, and I believe this might be in here, What I was reading is that they said vaccines will be mandatory and they will expire every nine months.

00:07:45.000 Let me see if I can find that in here.

00:07:49.000 It was in a different... Here we go, here we go.

00:07:50.000 She had that vaccinated people will lose their vaccination status nine months after getting their last shot, apparently in an effort to encourage booster uptake.

00:07:59.000 What that means is...

00:08:01.000 There is no limit to the amount of shots you have to get.

00:08:05.000 They are saying once every nine months, you must get a shot.

00:08:10.000 Welcome to the new world order, excuse me, the new normal.

00:08:13.000 And what was Einstein's definition of insanity?

00:08:16.000 Because it seems like we're living it every single day.

00:08:19.000 This is just crazy.

00:08:20.000 There's these video footages.

00:08:22.000 There's these photos coming out of people being segregated in a supermarket.

00:08:26.000 From being vaxxed and unvaxxed. 0.75

00:08:28.000 There's police officers walking around rudely interrupting people's private dinners, rudely interrupting people's haircuts, being like, give me your gosh darn paperwork right now.

00:08:38.000 I've been making my own German translations of them on my own YouTube channel, but that's a separate topic.

00:08:42.000 But it's absolutely ridiculous to have a concept, an idea where the state needs to have you Have your paperwork everywhere you go, not just your identification, your medical records, and to have permission from the state to live your life like a normal person?

00:08:58.000 Who gave them this power?

00:09:00.000 I didn't.

00:09:00.000 John, something tells me that you're interested in freedom.

00:09:04.000 You know, the foundation for economic education, right?

00:09:06.000 Is that it?

00:09:07.000 Yeah, no, we are.

00:09:08.000 And if you look, like, here's the thing.

00:09:10.000 I'd oppose these even if they worked.

00:09:12.000 But they don't work.

00:09:14.000 Anybody who's clinging to the idea that the vaccines are stopping or even reducing transmission, I don't think they're looking at the data clearly.

00:09:22.000 If you look, anybody know the highest vaccinated state in the U.S.?

00:09:25.000 Vermont.

00:09:26.000 Vermont.

00:09:27.000 And if you look at Vermont's cases right now, they have more cases right now than they did last year.

00:09:31.000 I try to be careful with correlation though.

00:09:35.000 Well, sure.

00:09:36.000 But I mean, you can't look at that.

00:09:38.000 Anybody that looks at the numbers and says we have vaccination rate 85%, but our cases are through the roof.

00:09:46.000 Like, it's not stopping.

00:09:47.000 I hear you.

00:09:48.000 One more data point we need, though.

00:09:50.000 Are they breakthrough cases?

00:09:52.000 Well, how do you mean define breakthrough?

00:09:53.000 Are the people who are getting COVID vaccinated?

00:09:55.000 Yes, they have to be.

00:10:00.000 The vaccination rate, the breakthrough rate, is much, much exponentially higher than we were told at the beginning.

00:10:08.000 I wrote an article about this back in August, before people were really talking about the breakthrough rate.

00:10:14.000 At the time, the media was reporting something like 0.3%, maybe 0.5%, you know, maybe at 1%.

00:10:22.000 Well, we know it's much, much higher than that.

00:10:24.000 We have gobs of data that supports that.

00:10:27.000 Ask people you know.

00:10:28.000 So I think there's actually a simple... if we step back...

00:10:32.000 When Germany says you have to get vaccinated every nine months, I think what the issue is, it may be the most vaccinated state.

00:10:40.000 The vaccines may reduce transmission, but they wear off.

00:10:44.000 After a certain amount of time, you're still legally vaccinated, but the efficacy has dropped to the point where you may as well not be.

00:10:50.000 According to the Associated Press, Germany's vaccinated population is 68.7% which is the majority of its population.

00:10:58.000 They have seen a surge in cases and I think they're going to do what Austria did. 0.69

00:11:02.000 Austria, also highly vaccinated country, experiencing a lot of new cases and originally they locked down only the unvaccinated and then a couple days later they locked everyone down because they were using it as an emotional ploy.

00:11:15.000 They knew what they were doing, in my opinion, from my perspective, And they were just using this larger kind of extortion effort in order to try to get people to take this procedure.

00:11:24.000 Whether you want to take this procedure or not, that's your decision.

00:11:27.000 We're not giving you any medical advice.

00:11:28.000 We're not telling you what to do.

00:11:30.000 Here's the important thing.

00:11:31.000 I think it was obvious from the get-go when they were like, in New York, just get one shot and then everything will go back to normal.

00:11:37.000 And then they're like, okay, well now it's two.

00:11:39.000 And now you've got the Daily Beast coming out being like, we screwed up.

00:11:42.000 It's not a booster.

00:11:43.000 Three shots is the vaccine.

00:11:46.000 I think it's fairly obvious that you give them an inch, they're going to keep pushing on it.

00:11:49.000 I also think when it comes to the vaccine, I think it probably does what they say it does.

00:11:55.000 They're literally telling us it stops working, like the efficacy declines.

00:11:59.000 So I don't think we need to look too deep.

00:12:00.000 I mean, it's just my opinion.

00:12:01.000 Ultimately, it comes down to, you know, don't come to me for medical advice.

00:12:06.000 I just want to be clear.

00:12:06.000 I'm not anti-vaccine.

00:12:07.000 I encouraged several family members, take the vaccine.

00:12:10.000 You're in a risk group where I think it makes sense.

00:12:12.000 But you're going to need a booster.

00:12:14.000 My wife took the vaccine and I said, I think it makes sense.

00:12:18.000 And I had COVID in March.

00:12:20.000 It was a very, very unpleasant experience.

00:12:22.000 I was probably the sickest I've been for that length of time.

00:12:26.000 So, COVID's real, it's deadly, all these problems... I'm just... but I want to be clear.

00:12:33.000 I think the idea that the vaccine... everybody admits it doesn't stop transmission.

00:12:38.000 We have very good data that it doesn't reduce it.

00:12:40.000 Now, there's other data that conflicts with that, but we published coverage of a report, the European Journal of Epidemiology, I believe it was.

00:12:49.000 They looked at 67 countries and thousands of counties across the world and they said there's very little correlation there and to the extent that there is, vaccinated areas had slightly higher cases.

00:13:08.000 Now, this is transmission.

00:13:10.000 The vaccines work at reducing your risk of being hospitalized or dying.

00:13:15.000 I think we have Tons of evidence support that.

00:13:18.000 Of COVID, if you take this, your chances of dying or being hospitalized with COVID, they fall, you know, dramatically.

00:13:26.000 But the idea that they stop transmission is not true.

00:13:30.000 And the idea that they reduce it, I think, you know, I think there's, we have sound data that says maybe they don't reduce transmission.

00:13:36.000 It's tough.

00:13:37.000 I will say, funny enough, one of YouTube's rules is that if you claim the vaccine is a guaranteed way to prevent COVID, it's actually bannable.

00:13:47.000 And they say if you claim it's a guaranteed way to stop transmission, it's bannable.

00:13:50.000 I do think so.

00:13:54.000 We're dealing with mRNA vaccines, not like the, what is it, attenuated virus?

00:13:58.000 Is that what it's called?

00:13:59.000 The other ones?

00:14:00.000 We do have, is Novavax the attenuated one?

00:14:03.000 Like they're doing a new one.

00:14:04.000 I don't know that.

00:14:04.000 I don't know.

00:14:05.000 They're doing like another one that's like more of a traditional kind of vaccine because they needed like the genome or something.

00:14:10.000 I think it's fairly straightforward.

00:14:13.000 I think it's a political issue.

00:14:14.000 I think the vaccine probably does what they say it does.

00:14:17.000 And when they come out and say, you know what?

00:14:18.000 You actually need a booster.

00:14:20.000 You probably need a fourth shot.

00:14:22.000 I'm like, okay, that's not tenable.

00:14:24.000 Policy-wise, I'm like, by all means, come out and give me your advice, you know, and report what the reports are saying.

00:14:31.000 And I think, yeah, okay, maybe it makes sense that in the first four to six months it'll reduce transmission, it'll reduce severity, but what happens is you end up with people who all got vaccinated in March, it's December, and now we're like, look, the cases are through the roof.

00:14:43.000 I'm like, yeah, well they got vaccinated eight months ago and people aren't getting their booster shots.

00:14:46.000 It is not feasible economically and politically to mandate a booster shot every nine months.

00:14:53.000 People aren't going to do it.

00:14:54.000 Bill Maher said he's not going to do it.

00:14:56.000 And so the way I look at it is, it's not so much the vaccines.

00:15:00.000 I think it's the vaccine mandates are just completely nonsensical.

00:15:03.000 I would disagree with you a little bit because I don't think we know yet.

00:15:06.000 The data is still not in.

00:15:07.000 And I think we should say that we don't know.

00:15:09.000 But there, you know, correlation does not prove causation, and that's an important distinction here.

00:15:14.000 But when we look at the Omicron variant, the first case was detected in San Francisco from a fully vaccinated person.

00:15:20.000 The second case was detected in Minnesota from a triple-vaxxed person who just had his booster shot in November.

00:15:27.000 The third case was also from a double-vaxxed person in Colorado.

00:15:31.000 And again, you know, correlation does not prove causation, but when we look at the United Kingdom, Singapore, Ireland, Israel, Gibraltar, a lot of places that had some of the highest vaccine rates are dealing with some of the highest case numbers.

00:15:44.000 Again, we don't know what that means.

00:15:46.000 That's just the data.

00:15:47.000 There's a number of circumstances involved here, but that data should be at least debated and talked about.

00:15:52.000 I think it's important too, like we are talking cases right now.

00:15:56.000 We've been focusing on cases for a long time.

00:15:59.000 I think, you know, if we look even where cases are rampant, COVID deaths are not, you know, like the vaccines are having some success there.

00:16:08.000 You know, but the Omicron, everything I've read so far says it might be more mild.

00:16:13.000 And so, like, are we concerned that the cases are, you know, it might be very transmissible?

00:16:18.000 Like, all those are problems.

00:16:20.000 But again, when we see nations going into full-blown lockdowns and things, it's another overreaction.

00:16:26.000 And when you're talking about using state force to compel people to, you know, get vaccinated or you can't go to a store, Or go out in public.

00:16:34.000 Like, it's very dangerous and we need to, you know, I get it.

00:16:38.000 Talking about this stuff is uncomfortable.

00:16:40.000 Talking about vaccines, you're always worried, you know, like even in mixed company, right? 1.00

00:16:43.000 It's always, you're kind of, you know, pussyfooting around a little bit trying to, you don't want to offend people.

00:16:49.000 But we need to be honest, like using the state to force people in this way is very, very frightening, very dangerous.

00:16:56.000 That's that's that's the issue for me as I say, you know, like I'm not a scientist I'm a doctor and it's the issue I have with it is it's so easy to be wrong and you end up in a place where you're like I read this report that says this and then what do you do when you're actually sitting in front of someone who is a doctor who is a scientist and they're like dude you have no idea what you're talking about I'm like you know what I got to be honest you're right but you know what I do know what I'm talking about when I'm talking about freedom I'm a freedom expert Policy-wise, this will not work.

00:17:22.000 Centralization, command economies, all this stupid BS, mandated medical procedures, it doesn't work. 0.98

00:17:28.000 Let's talk about what's going on in Australia again, because I love to. 0.99

00:17:31.000 They have created camps.

00:17:33.000 We did this story the other day, they arrested three teenagers who tested negative because they tried escaping from the camp.

00:17:39.000 How is this making anything better?

00:17:42.000 I don't think it is.

00:17:43.000 It's making it worse and I think this is what they want.

00:17:45.000 They want to use a crisis to gain more control and it's working because I'll throw it back to when you asked the question about all these areas that have high vaccination rates but also high case rate.

00:17:57.000 Population density correlates with politics and likelihood of infection.

00:18:02.000 So New York, for instance, overwhelmingly blue, a higher vaccination rate, also a whole bunch of people jam-packed together in one of the densest populations in the world.

00:18:12.000 And so the likelihood they're going to spread stuff and have, you know, more contact with different strains of whatever virus?

00:18:18.000 Yeah, it's really, really high.

00:18:19.000 So there's a correlation there.

00:18:20.000 That's why I'm like, We gotta be careful about playing correlation games.

00:18:23.000 Yeah, but even that, Tim, is contested when you look at Vermont and Florida.

00:18:28.000 Florida has a huge elderly population, huge major metropolitan areas, and it's a far more significant state that was more at risk than New York.

00:18:38.000 But if you look at the case numbers per capita, Florida right now has the lowest case numbers, and they have no mask mandates, no vaccine mandates, no restrictions, no lockdowns compared to New York.

00:18:49.000 And they also have completely different weather.

00:18:51.000 And they also have different treatments, and they also probably have herd immunity.

00:18:57.000 So I certainly think the policy is the issue.

00:19:00.000 This is the struggle I have with trying to argue math and science.

00:19:04.000 I'm like, we don't need to.

00:19:06.000 Florida's policy clearly works.

00:19:07.000 You give people freedom.

00:19:09.000 And sure enough, whoa, look at that.

00:19:11.000 They provided monoclonal antibodies to people free of charge.

00:19:14.000 You show up to a clinic, boom, you're all better.

00:19:16.000 I got it.

00:19:16.000 It worked for me.

00:19:17.000 It's an emergency use authorization treatment.

00:19:20.000 Then you look up a lot of these other states, some of them don't offer this and they lock you down.

00:19:26.000 And we saw this very early on when it came to the spread of this.

00:19:29.000 What do you need? You need vitamin D, you need vitamin C, you need zinc, you need iron,

00:19:32.000 you and all this stuff. People staying in their homes are more likely to circulate air.

00:19:37.000 This is one of the studies that came out a lot like last year, like mid 2020.

00:19:42.000 They said that people who are in the house were more likely to transmit this

00:19:47.000 because they were more likely to be in close contact with people and have recycled air.

00:19:52.000 I remember that study.

00:19:53.000 If you remember, early in the pandemic, Andrew Cuomo had one of his press conferences and he was just talking to the media.

00:20:00.000 He said, what really surprised us is it's not frontline workers getting sick.

00:20:05.000 It's not homeless people.

00:20:06.000 He said, it's people are getting sick in their homes.

00:20:10.000 And, and well, sure enough, months later, you know, we had some good hard data that shows people, the majority of people are infected in their own home.

00:20:18.000 I want to know how many people sat in their house by themselves in between 20, January 1st, 2020.

00:20:23.000 And now sat in their house by themselves with a mask on.

00:20:27.000 How many people?

00:20:28.000 I'd be terrified to find out.

00:20:29.000 Put a 1 in the things if you actually did that.

00:20:31.000 Type 1 in the comments.

00:20:32.000 No, they're gonna say no.

00:20:33.000 No one's gonna hate on you.

00:20:34.000 It's anonymous.

00:20:35.000 No, but Ian, you're right.

00:20:36.000 I have seen people driving in their cars with masks on and they're by themselves.

00:20:40.000 Hey, I did that once and I will say I'm that guy because I had COVID and I'm like, well, I don't want to, I'm driving to the doctor now.

00:20:47.000 It's been, I had it for a week.

00:20:49.000 And I'm like, well, I don't, what if I cough on the, in the car or something?

00:20:52.000 I'm like, so I had it.

00:20:53.000 I'm that guy driving in my car with a mask on.

00:20:55.000 I was like, um, I contracted COVID about a month ago and it was pretty brutal.

00:20:58.000 Like you were saying, I, I went through after I got it out of my system.

00:21:02.000 I had this like feeling like, well, I got a mask.

00:21:04.000 So, okay.

00:21:04.000 I'm a little bit more protected.

00:21:05.000 Like I felt that, but then like 10 hours later, the mask was all wet from my breath and it was disgusting, peeling it off my face.

00:21:13.000 And it, the thought of it protecting me had completely gone out the window at that point.

00:21:16.000 Cause it was dirty.

00:21:17.000 You know, I just realized everyone's spamming one in the chat.

00:21:20.000 Yeah, they're all lying.

00:21:21.000 You guys didn't wear your masks in your houses.

00:21:23.000 Don't troll on me.

00:21:24.000 I'm just like, you know what?

00:21:25.000 I don't believe this.

00:21:27.000 Smash the like button if you were wearing that mask.

00:21:30.000 There you go. 0.98

00:21:30.000 If you were or not, smash that. 0.98

00:21:32.000 Before we go, one last point I want to make because there's something I think you said, Tim, and I saw it on Twitter recently.

00:21:40.000 Gavin Newsom came out and he said, it pains me to say this, but this thing is seasonal.

00:21:45.000 I don't know if you guys saw that, but Newsom, he came out and said it.

00:21:49.000 And I'm like, well, you know, a lot of smart people I know, like I wasn't quite willing to go there yet myself, but I was looking at charts and you put them and you can see in different states and different areas, it looks like this is moving seasonally.

00:22:01.000 And Newsom came out and said it.

00:22:04.000 And so I think we need to accept the fact all our policies, everything we're trying to do to contain the virus, You know, nature is nature.

00:22:12.000 It's moving.

00:22:12.000 Yeah.

00:22:13.000 Five times.

00:22:13.000 That's a good point.

00:22:14.000 A good point about Florida.

00:22:16.000 People right now are indoors for the winter and a lot of places in Florida, they're outside.

00:22:20.000 Yeah, where it's cold.

00:22:21.000 And if you go next year, Florida, if you look at Florida in July, August next year, you know what?

00:22:25.000 Their numbers are going to be high.

00:22:26.000 Because everyone goes back inside for the air conditioning.

00:22:29.000 That's my prediction.

00:22:29.000 Right.

00:22:30.000 I wonder how many people that are getting vaccinated are getting vaccinated for different variants.

00:22:33.000 I don't think any of you guys can answer this question.

00:22:35.000 And I would love it.

00:22:36.000 I don't think there's a vaccine for different variants.

00:22:38.000 I think it's just one vaccine.

00:22:39.000 Well, the White House official stance on this new variant is you need to get vaccinated, you need to get boosted in order to deal with the Omicron variant, which the first preliminary cases are affecting vaccinated people.

00:22:51.000 Dr. Fauci just came out today and said that you're going to have to get a vaccine once a year.

00:22:56.000 And their official stance in the Biden administration's first move against Omicron is to get children vaccinated as young as five.

00:23:03.000 Alright, we gotta jump to the story about the Republican Party.

00:23:05.000 We got this from Breitbart.

00:23:06.000 Exclusive!

00:23:08.000 Tool to enforce Orwellian rules.

00:23:10.000 80 House Republicans helped pass a bill to fund federal vaccination database.

00:23:15.000 According to the bill, also called H.R.

00:23:18.000 550, the government would provide $400 million in taxpayer dollars to fund immunization system data, monetization, and expansion.

00:23:25.000 A system otherwise defined as a confidential population-based computerized database that records immunization doses administered by any healthcare provided to persons within the geographic area covered by that database.

00:23:37.000 I want to point out, it's called the immunization infrastructure.

00:23:39.000 The COVID vaccine does not immunize you.

00:23:43.000 Okay, this is very, very important distinction.

00:23:45.000 You will not be immune.

00:23:47.000 Okay, the YouTube rules are very clear on this one.

00:23:50.000 Okay.

00:23:51.000 The COVID vaccine reduces the likelihood you'll get it, reduces the severity, and if you do get it, you know, hospitalization and all that is reduced as well.

00:23:59.000 There have been some graphs about it, but it's important because they're calling it the Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act, and I think it's important.

00:24:06.000 The New York Daily News reported on LeBron James getting COVID and it said, not even the king is immune to COVID.

00:24:11.000 And I'm like, and he's fully vaxxed?

00:24:13.000 I think this is the narrative here that the vaccine is not immunization.

00:24:17.000 It is vaccination.

00:24:18.000 And now I guess the definition has changed to mean it reduces your likelihood of catching and having a severe case.

00:24:26.000 So just one final thought to move into this.

00:24:29.000 We had 80 Republicans sign on board with us.

00:24:32.000 I don't believe that a red wave is going to save Americans' freedom.

00:24:36.000 Yeah, absolutely not.

00:24:37.000 I mean, we've been talking about this for a while.

00:24:38.000 Be prepared to be disappointed by the people who are going to be the fall guys.

00:24:42.000 It's just like wrestling.

00:24:43.000 They're going to come in.

00:24:44.000 They're going to be, you know, they're pretending to be the bad guys now.

00:24:46.000 They're going to be the popular guys.

00:24:47.000 But it's all a show.

00:24:48.000 It's all scripted in so many different ways.

00:24:50.000 Dan Crenshaw, I heard, also voted for this.

00:24:52.000 And to see 80 House Republicans vote For a federal vaccine registry, what do you think registration will lead to?

00:25:00.000 I mean, it's common sense.

00:25:02.000 It's what's happening in Germany.

00:25:03.000 It's what's happening in Australia.

00:25:04.000 It's what's happening in Israel.

00:25:05.000 It's what's happening in the United Kingdom.

00:25:07.000 They need a database of everyone complying because now they know who's playing ball and who's not.

00:25:12.000 It's no longer going to be the paper that's your vaccine proof.

00:25:15.000 It's going to be a federal digital track, trace, and database system, which again, will be integrated into the social credit score, which we've been warning about from the very beginning of this.

00:25:24.000 But it said it was confidential.

00:25:26.000 They're saying... Do you think a government federal registry is going to be confidential?

00:25:30.000 But they promised, Luke!

00:25:31.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:25:31.000 How could anything go wrong if... consolidating data like that?

00:25:35.000 Confidential means they get to read through your private stuff.

00:25:39.000 And so do their friends.

00:25:40.000 This is at the same time as the federal government... Biden's COVID czar literally was on the national media today ... saying that everything's on the table to implement a ... domestic vaccine passport when it comes to interstate travel so ... this is literally what the there's politicians there's ... ruling elites in the United States that are seething that ... are waiting to implement what Australia and what Germany ... have already implemented.

00:26:04.000 They are waiting to implement this, and it's terrifying.

00:26:07.000 The CDC just gave themselves new surveillance powers in order to track this new variant.

00:26:11.000 Who allowed them to have surveillance powers?

00:26:14.000 They did it themselves.

00:26:15.000 They're acting more and more like just a totally runaway, undemocratic, unfree government that thinks they can impose their will onto anyone when they want, and that's absolutely crazy and dangerous.

00:26:27.000 So the Founding Fathers, right?

00:26:28.000 They're probably like sitting around in Ben Franklin's living room.

00:26:31.000 They smoked a lot, so they're probably stoned.

00:26:34.000 Or probably on opium or something.

00:26:35.000 And then Jefferson's like, dude, what if we make a government?

00:26:40.000 And it goes nuts.

00:26:42.000 And then Ben was like, whoa.

00:26:44.000 And then Tom's like, yo, we should give everyone the right to keep and bear arms.

00:26:50.000 And then Ben was like, dude, dude, dude, we don't give it, man.

00:26:55.000 God gives it.

00:26:55.000 He's like, yo, your rights!

00:26:57.000 God gives all this!

00:26:58.000 That might be the best description I've ever heard of the Constitution.

00:27:03.000 They were probably drinking, you know, it was probably at a pub and they were drinking and they were alike.

00:27:06.000 Have you ever looked back and see what they drank at some of these Continental Congress meetings?

00:27:10.000 What was it?

00:27:11.000 Insane amounts of alcohol.

00:27:14.000 I wrote something on it once years ago.

00:27:15.000 I'm like, because you will not believe how much alcohol they consumed.

00:27:19.000 I didn't believe it.

00:27:20.000 Well, they needed to, because a lot of the water wasn't safe for them to drink, so a lot of them drank beer.

00:27:25.000 Did they still have that big of water issues in 1770?

00:27:29.000 It was easier for them to make beer than to sometimes even filter water.

00:27:34.000 So you have all these dudes, they meet up together and they're all sitting there and, you know, Thomas Jefferson and John Hancock.

00:27:40.000 Standing on tables.

00:27:41.000 like I we can't go to war I mean I mean I understand we're gonna keep

00:27:45.000 petitioning the king it's like all right around the drinks on me but let's keep

00:27:48.000 talking and then by you know two hours ago by I would declare independence

00:27:51.000 standing on table everybody gets guns and they're like yeah and they're

00:27:56.000 fighting I can honestly say this doesn't scare me as much because they got their

00:28:01.000 fingers in everything and partly I count on the incompetence of government like

00:28:05.000 they're gonna collect a bunch of data it's gonna sit there I don't think the

00:28:10.000 good thing is our system is built to withstand this unlike Germany and 1.00

00:28:14.000 Austria and Australia everyone else I I get I'm not saying it's not a threat it 1.00

00:28:19.000 is a threat it's not gonna happen here and I'm not saying that to make people

00:28:23.000 Let's face it, the Biden administration is floundering.

00:28:26.000 Do they really want to pick this battle now?

00:28:29.000 Our system is going to withstand this.

00:28:31.000 There's not the political will in any...

00:28:34.000 Let's face it, the Biden administration is floundering.

00:28:36.000 Do they really want to pick this battle now, say that you can't travel at all?

00:28:40.000 Like they're terrified that the economy...

00:28:42.000 No, they're not though.

00:28:43.000 If you look, doing some stuff internationally that they're doing, I oppose all of it, don't get me wrong.

00:28:49.000 I think they're terrified. 0.99

00:28:50.000 I don't think they're stupid enough to go down this road. 0.98

00:28:53.000 If at the beginning of COVID, right, if someone sat you down and said, everything's going to happen the way it did, would you believe them before COVID? 0.99

00:29:00.000 With how far the government has already intervened in our lives, with how much they have already taken from us, with how much they already locked us down, with how much they destroyed this economy.

00:29:08.000 Boosters!

00:29:08.000 We're a conspiracy theory.

00:29:10.000 No, if someone set you down before COVID began and said the government's going to be disinvolved in your life, would you believe them before COVID?

00:29:16.000 I think I would believe what happened in the United States.

00:29:18.000 I'd be less inclined to believe what we're seeing in Australia and some of those things.

00:29:25.000 Yeah, I mean, that's my answer.

00:29:26.000 I would be shocked.

00:29:27.000 There is the potential for danger here.

00:29:29.000 We should oppose it.

00:29:30.000 We should get angry about it.

00:29:32.000 But I think our system is going to prevail in this case.

00:29:36.000 I think we're going to put the kibosh on this.

00:29:38.000 It's not going to go very far.

00:29:39.000 TSA extends mask mandate for domestic flights over Omicron coronavirus variant through mid-March.

00:29:45.000 So that's public transportation, domestic flights, ships, taxis, trains.

00:29:49.000 And we've already heard from Fauci that they're adding new requirements.

00:29:52.000 You need a negative test before boarding an international flight.

00:29:54.000 And after you get here, you got to quarantine.

00:29:56.000 So they are slowly pushing this forward.

00:29:59.000 But look, any smart, desperate knows you can't come out and say, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to lock you in your homes and weld your doors shut. 0.91

00:30:07.000 People would be like, screw off.

00:30:07.000 That wouldn't work.

00:30:09.000 But after two years, I think it's fair to say we are in the rat hope experiment.

00:30:13.000 Are you familiar with it?

00:30:14.000 I don't think I am.

00:30:15.000 Dude puts rats in these tubes full of water, and they struggle.

00:30:18.000 After 15 minutes, they give up, and they drown and die.

00:30:22.000 He puts another group of rats in there.

00:30:23.000 They struggle.

00:30:24.000 Right as they're giving up, he takes them out, dries them off, lets them chill, picks them up, puts them back in.

00:30:29.000 The second time they go in, they swim for 60 hours, believing, if I just keep swimming, eventually the hand will save me again.

00:30:37.000 So we go under this lockdown for about a year and a few months, and then they let it all open.

00:30:42.000 Everyone's like, Oh, thank heavens.

00:30:43.000 We're getting back to normal and the economy should be coming back.

00:30:46.000 It's not.

00:30:47.000 And then all of a sudden they say, Oh no, a new variant.

00:30:51.000 Now we've got to start implementing these lockdowns and they're not going to do it instantly because people would lose it.

00:30:56.000 But I say, give it a few months, especially with the midterms coming up, they're going to exploit this crisis.

00:31:01.000 And then they're going to lock us down harder than we've seen.

00:31:03.000 I could be wrong about it.

00:31:04.000 I don't know.

00:31:05.000 I'll say just, you know, I'll go back to my home state.

00:31:07.000 I live in Minnesota, Twin Cities.

00:31:09.000 We're not, you know, I won't say we're a blue state, but we're certainly a purple state.

00:31:13.000 You know, Governor Tim Walz was recently, you know, getting questions like, why aren't you going under an emergency lockdown?

00:31:20.000 And he gave an answer that was incredibly honest.

00:31:23.000 Like he didn't, you know, he really implied that politics had something to do with it.

00:31:28.000 Now, he also said there's no evidence that says this will be, you know, effective, another emergency order.

00:31:34.000 I think, you know, above all else, you know, politics is staying elected.

00:31:38.000 And I think people know that Americans are kind of fed up with these policies.

00:31:43.000 And yeah, like the feds have some power as far as like what they can monitor.

00:31:48.000 You know, vaccines and international travel and things.

00:31:53.000 I just partly I'm trying to be optimistic here.

00:31:55.000 I don't want to be too doom and gloom.

00:31:58.000 You know, like we're not Australia yet.

00:31:59.000 And I don't think we're going to be because Americans have wised up a lot.

00:32:04.000 We have guns.

00:32:05.000 It makes a big difference.

00:32:06.000 In the last 18 months, I think Americans have kind of awoken.

00:32:10.000 I hate to say that.

00:32:11.000 You are right.

00:32:12.000 Actually, I recorded a segment on this earlier that Democrat pollsters are basically sending red flags up saying we're going to lose in 2022.

00:32:21.000 And the reason is the economy is the most important issue, number one, and Democrats aren't talking about it.

00:32:27.000 The lockdowns seriously impacted the economy, but in Virginia, one pollster said it wasn't critical race theory, certainly that had some of an impact, but it was the COVID restrictions on schools.

00:32:40.000 Parents were already struggling due to the lockdowns.

00:32:44.000 Now their kids are back at home and they're trying to figure out nannies or who's going to watch the kids, and they got really angry about it.

00:32:51.000 So, Because of their push towards, this is why I think there's a good possibility they might not, because they know if they do this, the American people have already said, no way.

00:33:01.000 I think they're still going to maintain this path because of social media pressures.

00:33:04.000 And so long as Republicans don't do anything stupid like voting on, you know, a bill to create a vaccine database, which they did. 0.96

00:33:11.000 And they shouldn't be supporting that. 1.00

00:33:12.000 It's ridiculous. 0.89

00:33:13.000 And anybody that did, like, you know, if I was one of their constituents, I'd be writing them a letter. 0.91

00:33:18.000 That's what they're doing.

00:33:20.000 They don't care about the letters.

00:33:21.000 They care about the big multinational corporations that really call the shots here and they will appease them.

00:33:26.000 They will bow down.

00:33:27.000 They will get on their knees.

00:33:29.000 I have no hope for the Republicans when they take over.

00:33:31.000 I have no hope in Dan Crenshaw, Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, and the party of rollover.

00:33:37.000 Let let our soft bellies be shown to the globalists of ... course we sell out our constituents as the hope that ... we're going to be something better when we're just going to ... be the same thing with a different color behind it I'm ... so sick of it we should be appalled that the US ... government shut down small businesses while allowing ... Walmart Costco and all these other big-box stores Amazon to ... do whatever they wanted to they destroyed and I have created.

00:33:59.000 The largest transfer of wealth in recorded human history, robbing poor people blind, enriching the billionaire class, and if we think they're not capable of doing what Australia is doing to its people, I think we're not paying attention.

00:34:11.000 I think we're at a moment where they are itching for a new tragedy to exploit and they will use anything, manufacture anything, or even do anything to create this tragedy at this particular moment in order to get their way.

00:34:25.000 I echo most of that, but here's what I will say.

00:34:28.000 Like, I don't trust, you know, a Republican any more than a Democrat for the most part.

00:34:33.000 At the same time, as a libertarian, gridlock is good.

00:34:38.000 We want gridlock. 0.58

00:34:39.000 Gridlock, if you look at, you know, historically at spending and other metrics we can use, you know, when there's gridlock in Congress, A lot less bad stuff happened.

00:34:49.000 But it's not gridlock.

00:34:50.000 The Republicans were on board with every agenda pushed against the American people, especially when COVID came.

00:34:55.000 They were like, yes, Dr. Fauci is great.

00:34:57.000 Whatever Dr. Fauci wants, Dr. Fauci gets.

00:35:00.000 14 days to slow the spread.

00:35:01.000 Great idea.

00:35:02.000 And the Republicans didn't even bat an eye.

00:35:04.000 They didn't give a damn about their constituents, their people.

00:35:07.000 They said, back the blue, support police officers as they bust down your door and shut down your business. 0.99

00:35:12.000 That's ridiculous. 0.86

00:35:13.000 And for people to still believe that they're going to change anything, I think it's naive in my personal opinion, but I may be too blackmailed. 0.96

00:35:21.000 Hey, there's reason for cynicism.

00:35:24.000 You're not wrong.

00:35:26.000 The GOP, what did they do for us in 2020?

00:35:28.000 Not a heck of a lot.

00:35:31.000 So I hear where you're coming from, but I have no, you know, misconceptions.

00:35:38.000 Next year, if Republicans take the House, if they take the Senate, is everything going to change?

00:35:43.000 Well, no, but gridlock is good. 0.87

00:35:46.000 If there is a primary red wave and everybody who watches this goes and tells 10 of their friends and family to vote in the primaries, then you will get something special come November because all of a sudden you're gonna have a whole bunch of, you know, populists being like, all that establishment crap is out. 0.76

00:36:02.000 Let's get dark with it.

00:36:04.000 Let's go pessimistic.

00:36:05.000 We have this story from Harvard.edu.

00:36:08.000 Harvard Youth Poll finds young Americans are worried about democracy and even fearful of civil war.

00:36:14.000 Oh, you know I love to say it.

00:36:15.000 They say more than half of young Americans feel democracy in the country is under threat.

00:36:19.000 And over a third think they may see a second U.S.

00:36:23.000 Civil War within their lifetimes, according to the 42nd Harvard Youth Poll released by Harvard Kennedy School's Institute of Politics.

00:36:30.000 The poll also found approval for President Biden has plummeted, and a majority of respondents are unhappy with how the President and Congress are doing their jobs.

00:36:37.000 I think it's funny that you're asking young people, it's like, how do you feel about Congress?

00:36:40.000 And they're like, well, I've realized they're bad.

00:36:42.000 It's like, it's because you're getting older and you're watching them.

00:36:44.000 But older people have been watching them for a long time, knowing they're bad.

00:36:47.000 I love that Joe Biden's approval rating is tanking, but I knew who Joe Biden was back during Occupy Wall Street 10 years ago.

00:36:53.000 All these young people are like, kind of feel like I was lied to about Joe Biden.

00:36:57.000 But we've got this other one that wraps along with it.

00:36:59.000 Hedge fund founder Ray Dalio predicts there is a 30% chance of US civil war in the next 10 years because of emotional political polarization.

00:37:08.000 Believes the constitution may save the nation.

00:37:11.000 Now, I think the issue is there's two realities.

00:37:15.000 And I think, you know, most people we talk to agree.

00:37:18.000 Certainly some people say, no, it's not true.

00:37:19.000 But I think if you talk to some of these Democrats, they'll tell you Russiagate still happened.

00:37:26.000 Like, even though we know and we've known for years Trump did not collude with Russia, they still believe it.

00:37:31.000 Things like that.

00:37:32.000 If you have people who—we had an article from Salon the other day that said, the second civil war may come, which side are you on?

00:37:41.000 Choose your side now.

00:37:42.000 And they said, our multiracial democracy is anathema to the Republican Party or the Republican view.

00:37:50.000 And I'm like, that's insane.

00:37:52.000 Republicans are not that.

00:37:54.000 That is not what they are.

00:37:55.000 But if you have people who live in that world, then yeah, I agree we're heading in that direction.

00:38:00.000 And it's not just my opinion.

00:38:01.000 It's the opinion of a guy, a hedge fund founder, whose job is literally to make predictions about where these markets are going to go.

00:38:06.000 And he thinks there's a good chance it could happen.

00:38:07.000 Now, we should right away say, OK, what do we mean by civil war?

00:38:11.000 Yeah.

00:38:12.000 Oh, I think we're in one already.

00:38:14.000 And what I mean by that is it's a fourth and fifth generational war, which is propaganda, information warfare, economic warfare.

00:38:20.000 So we have had ground skirmishes.

00:38:22.000 We've had Antifa fighting with Proud Boys.

00:38:24.000 We've had right-wing groups clashing with left-wing groups.

00:38:26.000 We've had insurgency.

00:38:28.000 There was a guy who showed up to an ICE facility with a ghost gun and some firebombs.

00:38:31.000 There was a dude who went and executed a Trump supporter in the middle of the street in Portland.

00:38:35.000 A lot of things like that.

00:38:37.000 That's the congressional baseball game that was shot up as well.

00:38:40.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:38:40.000 That's right.

00:38:41.000 And so that was a Bernie volunteer who did that.

00:38:43.000 And Steve Scalise almost lost his life.

00:38:46.000 I could see like a corporate war.

00:38:48.000 Like the corporations versus everybody else.

00:38:51.000 And that happening in the United States is like a battleground for it, unfortunately.

00:38:55.000 That's already happening.

00:38:56.000 But like a hot war.

00:38:57.000 The corporations have like private military.

00:38:59.000 But where would they locate their bases?

00:39:02.000 They have their corporate headquarters they could use.

00:39:04.000 They probably own a lot of land that they would use.

00:39:07.000 I don't, I don't, I don't.

00:39:08.000 But other than that, I don't see the American people going out.

00:39:09.000 Corporations are not ideological for the most part.

00:39:11.000 They're being infiltrated by ideological individuals.

00:39:13.000 Klaus Schwab is the ideologue.

00:39:15.000 But he's, he's something far beyond just a corporation.

00:39:18.000 He's Davos Group.

00:39:19.000 He wants corporations to run the world.

00:39:21.000 I think we're living in a world where ideas are more powerful than bullets.

00:39:24.000 And I think those ideas and that kind of form of manipulation is something that has been used already in a war that we don't even know exists right now that has hurt tremendously the populations of this world.

00:39:37.000 And I think this guy is right.

00:39:39.000 I think his assessment is fair.

00:39:40.000 But I think it's going to hedge more on the prominence of social media.

00:39:44.000 So if social media is as prominent and becomes more prominent in our lives, I do believe the likelihood of civil war is going to go up.

00:39:51.000 If social media becomes less prominent, it's not going to be That's what I personally believe because when we look at big tech algorithms, when we look at the prominence of social media, you see hyperpolarization of people on the political spectrum going into their echo chambers more and more and more and the algorithm regurgitates it and I think deliberately pushes it, this is my own theory, towards a divide and conquer agenda that has people fighting each other rather than looking at the true source of their problems that's really creating it.

00:40:18.000 That's my personal perspective and opinion.

00:40:20.000 But if we get rid of social media... I'm not saying get rid of it, I'm saying the prominence.

00:40:24.000 So if social media becomes more prominent.

00:40:26.000 So look, our show is...

00:40:29.000 Prominence of social media.

00:40:30.000 That people choose to go to YouTube or Twitter or Facebook or wherever else to get content, they find channels like ours.

00:40:35.000 We're not on TV.

00:40:36.000 So, certainly, this is what big tech, the big machine, the establishment wants.

00:40:40.000 They want to homogenize everything.

00:40:43.000 They have slowly been removing people from YouTube, and if you search on YouTube for news, what are you gonna get?

00:40:49.000 If you typed in, like, you know, But we still have Joe Rogan is the number one show on Spotify, which we just saw.

00:40:54.000 There's an appetite.

00:40:55.000 People can go find their shows that they want.

00:40:57.000 ain't gonna happen. You're gonna get CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, etc. even though we know

00:41:02.000 they lie. But we still have Joe Rogan is the number one show on Spotify, like

00:41:06.000 which we just saw. There's an appetite. People can go find their shows that they

00:41:10.000 want, that's good for now. As far as the Civil War though, just to chime in, like

00:41:14.000 we hear Civil War, we think of 1861, right?

00:41:17.000 We have, as Americans, it was the most pivotal moment in our history, maybe more so than even independence.

00:41:23.000 It's ingrained in our fiber in our history.

00:41:28.000 We're not going to see that.

00:41:30.000 I don't think that's, you know, so we might have a Civil War.

00:41:33.000 It's not going to look like that.

00:41:35.000 I like to think, I might have mentioned this to Lydia earlier, I like to think of it maybe as a Brexit, right?

00:41:40.000 That we just, you know, like we might say, this isn't working out.

00:41:44.000 And, you know, like trying to maybe rule, like from Washington D.C., a bunch of corrupt politicians, where our words are the law.

00:41:52.000 And we're going to rule the whole nation, which is very diverse, by the way.

00:41:56.000 We have different cultures, different people, different traditions.

00:41:59.000 Trying to govern everybody under one umbrella, to me, doesn't make a lot of sense anymore.

00:42:04.000 I think the framers would say, yeah, this isn't working.

00:42:09.000 I think they'd look and say, what is the purpose of government?

00:42:13.000 It's to protect life, liberty, and property.

00:42:15.000 That government's really not doing that anymore.

00:42:16.000 I think some of them might say that.

00:42:18.000 Yeah, it got out of hand.

00:42:20.000 The representatives, they used to represent, I don't know, a few thousand people.

00:42:23.000 And now, I don't know, 700,000?

00:42:23.000 30.

00:42:23.000 30,000.

00:42:24.000 One guy is supposed to represent?

00:42:24.000 750.

00:42:24.000 750,000 people.

00:42:25.000 750,000 people one guy supposed to represent can't you barely represent yourself effectively?

00:42:30.000 That's your number one job So I think democratic republicanism is dying, and we need a new form where you can't have republics, you can't have these people that get voted in and then get bribed.

00:42:42.000 Over and over and over, whether it's a new face or an old face, they're getting money from Exxon and all these crazy corporations.

00:42:48.000 Pfizer.

00:42:48.000 Alphabet.

00:42:49.000 Pfizer!

00:42:51.000 And it's like a point of weakness of vulnerability in the system, these bribes that keep happening.

00:42:57.000 It wouldn't matter though, right, if the politicians didn't have the power they have. 0.95

00:43:01.000 Like, all those bribes, they happen because there's so much at stake because they have so much power.

00:43:06.000 If we remove the power from the politicians, that's much less of a problem.

00:43:10.000 And we have a mechanism to do that.

00:43:12.000 We have, you know, if you look in recent history, it's not just Brexit.

00:43:17.000 Other places have said, you know what, this isn't working.

00:43:20.000 Um, and for, I think for Americans, that's a really hard idea.

00:43:23.000 I don't think we're close to that idea, but you know, at FE, our motto, anything peaceful, right?

00:43:28.000 And, and if we just, you know, like as Americans say, you know, we had a good run, the marriage, it's not really working out.

00:43:34.000 You go your way, we're going to go our way.

00:43:37.000 I'm not saying that's practical.

00:43:39.000 I think it's very painful.

00:43:41.000 I think it would be hard, but I think that approach makes sense.

00:43:46.000 We've had the conversation about peaceful divorce or national divorce quite a bit, but I think a lot of people who are proponents of this don't understand that California, for instance.

00:43:56.000 Southern California is completely dependent upon the Colorado River.

00:43:58.000 So if we all start going our separate ways and California's blue and they break off, Colorado's gonna be like, you know, we're gonna, you know, you want our water, let's negotiate.

00:44:07.000 We're no longer part of the same system and it's gonna change things.

00:44:09.000 They could cut them off.

00:44:11.000 They could start polluting, you know, upstream.

00:44:12.000 California might get mad. 0.99

00:44:14.000 You've got states that think they have a right to the Great Lakes.

00:44:17.000 Let's talk about, you know, Pennsylvania.

00:44:19.000 The fracking fields, the amount of energy they produce in Western Pennsylvania.

00:44:23.000 Well, the surrounding states need that energy.

00:44:25.000 All of a sudden they break off and the trade, how is it going to function?

00:44:28.000 What are the rules?

00:44:29.000 What are the laws?

00:44:29.000 Like we're seeing with Brexit.

00:44:30.000 I'm not saying it's the bad outweighs the good.

00:44:34.000 I'm just saying what I think might end up happening is you've got Eastern Oregon wanting to break away from Western Oregon.

00:44:41.000 Western Oregon won't allow that.

00:44:42.000 They're wealthy, they're powerful, that's the center of power.

00:44:45.000 And the people in the East, they pay them. 0.90

00:44:47.000 They're effectively the serfs in the fields.

00:44:50.000 They're not gonna let them go.

00:44:51.000 So, the question I guess is, if we do see national divorce, do you think that the overwhelmingly dense, deep red areas within a blue state will just be like, guess we're going with the far left on this one?

00:45:05.000 Or are they gonna be like, no way!

00:45:07.000 If the Republican, Red State, Conservative, Independent, Libertarian, whatever group is breaking away, we want to join them.

00:45:14.000 Well, you're surrounded by blue states.

00:45:16.000 You may be Southern Illinois, completely red, but too much blue all around you, what do you do?

00:45:23.000 It would be messy.

00:45:23.000 Fighting starts.

00:45:24.000 I brought up the American Civil War earlier.

00:45:27.000 That was kind of clean, even though there's a lot of bloodshed, in the fact that you had one boundary, right?

00:45:32.000 You had the Mason-Dixon line.

00:45:33.000 I know that there were some states that weren't necessarily of the south-north of that, but that's not the point.

00:45:39.000 Today we have different divides.

00:45:42.000 And it's, you know, some of it's urban-rural, right?

00:45:46.000 So this wouldn't be easy, it would be messy.

00:45:49.000 And you bring up a lot of, as far as trade, water rights, mineral rights, all of that.

00:45:56.000 But it's preferable, I think, to either a real war, a real civil war, or living under a government that's increasingly tyrannical.

00:46:04.000 And that's what I see.

00:46:05.000 But it precipitates war.

00:46:07.000 So you have, you know, upstate New York, a lot of which is more conservative, more libertarian, you know, not interested in what the New York City is doing.

00:46:15.000 And let's say they, you know, people, the overwhelming majority of people in upstate New York are like, nah, you're New Jersey, I don't know what you're doing, so you're out.

00:46:23.000 Because it's urban versus rural.

00:46:25.000 Do you think like New York is just going to be like, I guess we'll die?

00:46:28.000 No, they're going to be like, you can't do this.

00:46:30.000 Open the roads up.

00:46:31.000 You can't ID us.

00:46:32.000 We're New York.

00:46:33.000 And then it's not instant.

00:46:35.000 If there was some kind of, you know, convention of states and then everyone said, okay, that's it.

00:46:39.000 We're breaking up.

00:46:40.000 And then we're going to negotiate how this goes.

00:46:43.000 Eastern Oregon is going to be like, no.

00:46:45.000 And what are they going to do?

00:46:46.000 Are they going to come in?

00:46:47.000 If look, If Eastern Oregon is faced with the possibility of the country breaking apart, they'll immediately be like, we're with them.

00:46:55.000 And Oregon and Washington and these states are going to be like, nah, but then they're backed up by Idaho.

00:46:59.000 What happens when the food isn't coming?

00:47:01.000 What happens when California, which produces a large amount of food for this country, all of a sudden is under completely different rules? 0.99

00:47:07.000 And then what happens if the overwhelmingly leftists in the government start seizing land and pulling off stupid BS? 0.71

00:47:15.000 Worst case scenario, we get invaded by an external force and the history book writes it as that was the moment the U.S. 0.99

00:47:21.000 was destroyed.

00:47:22.000 I think you're not the first person that brought that up.

00:47:25.000 I think that's an overblown fear.

00:47:26.000 I think nothing would unite Americans more than an international force trying to get in our backyard.

00:47:34.000 You know, as far as like an example like Oregon, the good thing is there are even I'm not usually somebody that quotes international precedent, but we do have, you know, right to the U.N.

00:47:45.000 People have a right to declare independence.

00:47:48.000 And if people over there decide, you know what, this isn't working out, there are steps to take to do that.

00:47:53.000 Like I said, I don't think we're there right now.

00:47:56.000 I think Americans have to go, they're gonna have to be pushed much further.

00:48:00.000 But when I look at the long-term picture of things, and I've never talked about this publicly, it's just, you know, stuff you chew on in the shower or something, like, this isn't really working out.

00:48:08.000 Like, what's the off-ramp?

00:48:10.000 Where is it?

00:48:11.000 Well, this is something that I was talking about last year when I first came on the show.

00:48:14.000 One of the first things I brought up was peaceful divorce.

00:48:16.000 We need a peaceful divorce and we need more memes in the larger spectrum. 1.00

00:48:20.000 If you remember the first episode, that's what I was kind of going on about.

00:48:22.000 But we have to remember there's two factors here.

00:48:24.000 One, the state is becoming more and more sociopathic.

00:48:27.000 They don't only just want their pound of flesh where they literally create ideas like civil asset forfeiture, which is insane, but they want to tax you.

00:48:35.000 They want to regulate you.

00:48:36.000 want to control every aspect of your existence towards a ...

00:48:39.000 crazy maniacal level and throughout human history ...

00:48:42.000 communists have never peacefully allowed separation ...

00:48:45.000 they have wanted to control everything in every aspect of ...

00:48:49.000 your existence and it's sick and it's twisted and it ... 0.63

00:48:52.000 totally destroys any form of progress but there are ... 0.97

00:48:55.000 instances just like with the Amish where people do come ...

00:48:58.000 together and say this is crazy I don't want to be a part of ...

00:49:01.000 this and they are respected as their own individual entity ...

00:49:05.000 and I believe individuals and groups like the Free State ...

00:49:08.000 Project are trying to make their own kind of Amish group ...

00:49:12.000 in New Hampshire and I think what they're doing is is ...

00:49:15.000 amazing I think they have a lot of success stories and I ...

00:49:18.000 think it is possible on that small micro level but I think ...

00:49:20.000 Is that economically financially socially there's going to be a huge storm coming and when that storm comes people are going to come together and they're going to live together and that's going to be their own individual groups and they're going to be identified as their own power structures.

00:49:34.000 I think that is way more likely and there might be clashes between power structures.

00:49:37.000 And that might be deemed a civil war, but I think that is more of a likely situation than one of the old kind of knowledge, the North versus the South, which is impractical.

00:49:46.000 And if we look at historically other civil wars, it's not just territorial regions, it's people fighting over ideas.

00:49:52.000 And I think that's going to happen on many levels when everything hits the fan.

00:49:56.000 And this is the real, I think, the potential catalyst we have is, I don't know which side has a stronger moral stance.

00:50:04.000 You have the left and wokeism, which is a non-theistic religion or cult, whatever you want to call it.

00:50:10.000 And these people are willing to burn down and murder.

00:50:12.000 They've burned down buildings, 25 people dead in the George Floyd riots.

00:50:16.000 And when Aaron Danielson is shot in the chest in Portland, they cheered for more than one occasion.

00:50:21.000 So these people celebrate the death of their perceived enemies.

00:50:25.000 Now, the right doesn't do that.

00:50:26.000 They're not.

00:50:28.000 And there's still a strong moral position, and that's abortion. 0.52

00:50:31.000 So, I wonder.

00:50:33.000 You know, what we saw in 1861 was a strong moral position that was a strong catalyst for the war.

00:50:38.000 Slavery.

00:50:38.000 Abolitionists were like, we will storm in full speed to end this.

00:50:42.000 With wokeism.

00:50:45.000 They're going around saying white supremacy.

00:50:47.000 They're doing rallies right now where they claim that white supremacy is defending itself with Kyle Rittenhouse and all that stuff.

00:50:52.000 But you also have right now the Supreme Court issuing, or I'm sorry, hearing the oral arguments on the Mississippi 15-week abortion ban.

00:51:00.000 And a belief among many in the media and many leftists that come June 2022, abortion will be banned.

00:51:06.000 That will ignite insanity among the left.

00:51:10.000 And the right will absolutely stand by to defend it.

00:51:13.000 With these trigger laws happening, with blue states then reinforcing, you're gonna have a hard ideological divide between woke and un-woke.

00:51:20.000 And that could be a potential catalyst, or at the very least, if we're talking about, you know, Tinder being thrown into the fire and the flames slowly getting bigger, June 2020, if the Supreme Court does overturn Roe v. Wade, it'll be like someone just threw a whole drum of gasoline right on top of it.

00:51:35.000 It doesn't mean it'll spark a war, it just means it's gonna get hot.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, there will be a lot of fury and anger and gnashing of teeth.

00:51:44.000 But I will say, my prediction is, I do think it will happen.

00:51:49.000 I don't think it'll be... Now, this is a bold prediction.

00:51:52.000 I don't think it'll be as big of a deal as you think.

00:51:54.000 Civil War?

00:51:55.000 Or Roe v. Wade?

00:51:57.000 Yeah, if they overturn Roe v. Wade.

00:52:01.000 We'll talk about it a lot.

00:52:03.000 There'll be, like I said, gnashing of teeth.

00:52:05.000 But we've been here for so long.

00:52:08.000 I think it's going to make social media crazy.

00:52:13.000 I don't think it's going to be like what we saw in 2020.

00:52:15.000 And that's my hope.

00:52:17.000 So you think we're on the back end, we're heading down, that things are going to slow down?

00:52:20.000 If you look across demographics, I think abortion is kind of a losing battle for Democrats.

00:52:28.000 I think progressives hold to it religiously.

00:52:31.000 They're going to get really loud and angry about it, but the people that are going to get most loud and angry aren't the people that are going to go marching in streets over it.

00:52:40.000 Well, they'll march.

00:52:41.000 They'll march.

00:52:41.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:52:42.000 But they're not the people that are going to light up cars and do that stuff.

00:52:45.000 This Whoopi Goldberg.

00:52:46.000 Did you see her go to town today?

00:52:47.000 I did, which there was a great response.

00:52:50.000 Olivia Rondeau had a great response to that.

00:52:52.000 And she said, well, Whoopi just, you know, pretty much said that men can't have children.

00:52:58.000 How dare men talk about what a fetus wants? 1.00

00:53:00.000 Ex-conservative Anna Navarro on conservative majority on Supreme Court. 0.93

00:53:03.000 We have this here from Fox News.

00:53:05.000 The View host Whoopi Goldberg erupts an abortion debate.

00:53:08.000 How dare men talk about what a fetus wants? 1.00

00:53:10.000 Ex-conservative Anna Navarro on conservative majority on Supreme Court. 0.93

00:53:13.000 Be careful what you wish for.

00:53:15.000 So Whoopi Goldberg, she was making like an anti-trans argument.

00:53:19.000 Is that what she was doing? 0.99

00:53:20.000 Well, she was like, hands off my body, doc. 1.00

00:53:20.000 Not at all. 1.00

00:53:21.000 Yeah, she's implying that men can't have children by saying this, right?

00:53:25.000 And that's kind of verboten, at least in some contexts.

00:53:29.000 Well, she's an old school liberal.

00:53:31.000 She doesn't understand the new cult and what they believe and everything like that.

00:53:34.000 So she's all for her body, but she's also pro-vaccine. 0.86

00:53:38.000 A mandatory vaccine?

00:53:40.000 I don't want to judge this too much because I didn't watch the entire thing.

00:53:42.000 I watched like 30 to 40 seconds of it and she was fired up. 1.00

00:53:46.000 This really bugs me too, even on the surface.

00:53:49.000 She said, do any of you men have any eggs or the possibility of carrying a fetus?

00:53:53.000 How dare you talk about what a fetus wants? 0.98

00:53:55.000 You have no idea.

00:53:56.000 I'm fine if you disagree with abortion.

00:53:58.000 I have no problem with that.

00:53:59.000 My problem comes when you tell me what I need to do with my doctor and my family.

00:54:02.000 How dare you?

00:54:03.000 How dare you?

00:54:04.000 You know, I'm pro-choice, and you have to really break it down to its philosophical root to understand what I mean by that, because I certainly don't agree with the left.

00:54:13.000 They're pro-abortion. 0.73

00:54:14.000 It's very, very different.

00:54:15.000 Things have changed.

00:54:16.000 So I can understand some of the righteous indignation, but men certainly have a right to an argument in the debate.

00:54:21.000 That's absurd.

00:54:22.000 It takes a man and a woman to make a child. 1.00

00:54:24.000 And it's also nightmarish when you see stories.

00:54:26.000 There was one video I watched where a guy is like, Following this woman into an abortion clinic screaming.

00:54:32.000 Please don't kill my son.

00:54:33.000 Please stop please I didn't he drops to his knees and he's crying out in front of it And she's just like get away from me, and that's that's like yeah, man.

00:54:41.000 This is not an easy moral situation These are deeply philosophical questions and they're questions that government can't solve.

00:54:50.000 I am pro-life.

00:54:51.000 I'm deeply pro-life.

00:54:53.000 But I understand the limitations of government fixing this problem.

00:54:56.000 The truth is, if you have somebody that wants to terminate their baby, I don't think they should have the right to do that because they're taking life.

00:55:05.000 That's not peaceful.

00:55:07.000 At the same time, I recognize that compelling someone to carry a child they don't want is going to end up poorly. 0.96

00:55:17.000 That situation is going to be bad.

00:55:19.000 It's really tough because I think there's so many people's perspectives on it that are very, very different.

00:55:24.000 You know, when I was talking with Seamus of Freedom Tunes, his view was very much that the word abortion means the needless termination of a pregnancy.

00:55:33.000 And my view on it is any circumstance in which a doctor terminates the life of the baby.

00:55:39.000 And so to me, that could mean serious mental health issues.

00:55:42.000 I'm sorry, not mental, serious health issues for the mother and the child,

00:55:46.000 and a decision that has to come from a medical doctor and the woman. 0.99

00:55:49.000 And to Seamus, the argument was literally like people using abortion as contraception,

00:55:54.000 or just deciding they don't want to take risks. And so I don't want to, I'm not trying to

00:55:58.000 diminish his total argument because, you know, I was about to go head to head with it.

00:56:03.000 He's not here.

00:56:04.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:56:04.000 Right, right, right.

00:56:05.000 I don't want to put words in his mouth because he's not here to defend himself.

00:56:08.000 We had a big discussion on it.

00:56:09.000 We disagree, but he's a good friend.

00:56:10.000 A miscarriage is a type of abortion. 0.99

00:56:12.000 I don't know about that.

00:56:14.000 Yeah, they call them involuntary abortions because a fetus is aborted.

00:56:18.000 Involuntarily.

00:56:20.000 The word involuntary is the big part there.

00:56:24.000 We talked about this quite a bit yesterday when we were discussing Roe v. Wade and how the Supreme Court, it seems like they're leaning towards overturning it or effectively overturning it with a ruling on the Mississippi abortion ban.

00:56:36.000 Here's what we should talk about.

00:56:37.000 Overturning Roe v. Wade doesn't end abortion.

00:56:41.000 It just means that some states are going to have it and some are not.

00:56:46.000 And that solution won't please everyone either, but it'll be more what was intended from our government.

00:56:57.000 Abortion is not a constitutional issue.

00:56:59.000 If we say that we live under the U.S.

00:57:01.000 Constitution, there's nothing in there that suggests that the federal government should be making these decisions.

00:57:07.000 Yeah, I think Clarence Thomas was asking, like, where in the Constitution does it say this is a right?

00:57:12.000 Or something to that effect.

00:57:13.000 And the woman argument was, I think her name was Rinkleman, and she's the Solicitor General, and she said, and the 14th Amendment. 0.70

00:57:20.000 And he's like, I can read the Second Amendment.

00:57:23.000 And see what it says.

00:57:24.000 Like, what are you referring to?

00:57:27.000 And he made a really good point.

00:57:28.000 It is, to me, an insane argument that it's a constitutional right to get an abortion.

00:57:33.000 She said it's seated in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:57:37.000 It's a liberty argument.

00:57:39.000 And I'm like, you know, my view is there's a very serious challenge in what the government should be allowed to do when it comes to, you know, people's medical decisions and their bodies.

00:57:49.000 And the issue with abortion that I think the left willfully ignores is that the baby is a life, the mother is a life, they're both valid.

00:57:57.000 It's annoying to me when I see there's like a meme going around from these leftists and they're like, It's actually someone I know posted this saying, the argument about whether or not a fetus is a life is the wrong argument.

00:58:08.000 The real argument is whether a woman is a life. 0.94

00:58:10.000 And I'm like, what are you even saying?

00:58:12.000 You're not even saying anything.

00:58:13.000 Look, I get it.

00:58:13.000 Women are alive and the babies are alive.

00:58:15.000 We're trying to figure out how to do this right.

00:58:17.000 You're not helping by making these nonsensical statements.

00:58:19.000 That's a bad argument.

00:58:20.000 Even I think most people that are pro-abortion would admit that's a bad argument.

00:58:23.000 They're posting these memes.

00:58:25.000 I'm just like, look man, it's really scary to me the idea that the government is given precedent for being involved in medical decisions.

00:58:31.000 And I'm like, that's the challenge of abortion is that for a certain amount of time, the fetus is dependent upon the mother.

00:58:40.000 And now you've got government intervention in a medical... I don't like it.

00:58:45.000 I don't like vaccine passports. 0.98

00:58:46.000 I don't like vaccine mandates.

00:58:47.000 I don't like any kind of mandate.

00:58:48.000 You know what I mean?

00:58:49.000 For medical choices.

00:58:50.000 That shouldn't be something the government's involved in.

00:58:52.000 And so that's a very rudimentary thing I see.

00:58:55.000 And then I see what you get when the left actually wins there.

00:59:00.000 Here's what happens.

00:59:00.000 The left comes in and says, see, shouldn't we have pro-choice?

00:59:03.000 And then someone like me goes, yeah.

00:59:05.000 And they go, great.

00:59:06.000 Hey, everybody, you can use abortion as contraception now. 0.51

00:59:08.000 And I'm like, no, what?

00:59:09.000 No!

00:59:10.000 And then that's what they end up doing.

00:59:11.000 And so then it's just, there's no middle.

00:59:13.000 Like to me, it's still so philosophical and there's no, you know, like it's just clearly wrong to me.

00:59:19.000 But again, it gets messy trying to have laws to fix these things.

00:59:23.000 One of my first stories ever as a newspaper reporter years ago as a cub reporter, the Panama City News Herald in Florida.

00:59:29.000 And a young woman, probably less than 25 years old, she murdered her baby that was just born.

00:59:39.000 It's been many years, but she just left it.

00:59:43.000 I think she might have thrown it in the bathroom or something. 1.00

00:59:45.000 And I covered that, did a couple of stories on it.

00:59:48.000 As far as I remember, I think she went to prison for life for a really long time.

00:59:54.000 But if she would have done it a week earlier, I remember thinking, if she would have done it a week earlier, it's perfectly legal.

00:59:59.000 That's right.

01:00:00.000 And so, like, you can't, you know, trying to have government have solutions to this, you know, like, it gets messy.

01:00:08.000 But as an individual, I just say, like, no, it's life.

01:00:11.000 And the one thing the government is supposed to do is protect life.

01:00:15.000 So, well, here's where I think, look, I'll go back to what we were talking about with Civil War stuff, and you were saying that, you know, you don't think it'll be that bad.

01:00:23.000 I actually, I think that, I don't know the right way to describe this, I completely disagree.

01:00:28.000 We have seen non-stop escalation and no sign of it slowing down.

01:00:32.000 If I were to ask you in 2014, do you think that in 2020, a thousand right-wing individuals would storm into the Capitol, interrupting the Electoral College proceedings, resulting in 10 months of solitary confinement and the expansion of the Capitol Police nationwide, you'd be like, shut up. 0.71

01:00:52.000 If I said, in a few years, there's going to be roving bands of far-left extremists burning down buildings and killing people, and a guy's going to get shot in the chest and murdered, you would tell me to shut up.

01:01:02.000 And I know this because this is literally what happened when I said it was going to happen.

01:01:06.000 Back in 2017, 2018, when I was covering the street violence, I was talking to people, pundits, politicos, libertarians, DC types, and I was saying like, guys, I see this getting worse.

01:01:18.000 It's only getting worse.

01:01:18.000 And they were like, oh, shut up.

01:01:20.000 The state would never allow this to escalate beyond the Proud Boys and Antifa.

01:01:24.000 No one's going to die.

01:01:25.000 They're LARPers. 0.85

01:01:26.000 And then sure enough, dude walks up to Aaron Danielson and just puts two in his chest for no reason.

01:01:32.000 And we have seen consistently escalating violence to the point where even after January 6th, I don't think it was an insurrection.

01:01:40.000 I think it was a riot.

01:01:40.000 I think it was bad.

01:01:41.000 Some of these people, the doors were open.

01:01:43.000 They were let in.

01:01:43.000 Still really bad.

01:01:45.000 I still have people walk up and be like, do you think it's going to be a civil war?

01:01:48.000 And now what happens?

01:01:48.000 I say January 6th and they go, oh yeah.

01:01:51.000 So you think about January 6th, not as insane as the Democrats think it is, but hey, from their perspective, troubling.

01:01:58.000 It's deeply troubling.

01:01:59.000 If these people want to come out and simultaneously criticize me for saying I think a civil war has strong potential, but then also claim—they want to criticize me for saying that, but then also claim January 6th was an insurrection, I'm like, what was wrong about what I said then if you agree with—if you believe that?

01:02:15.000 Now what happens come June 2022 if we get another major culture war catalyst?

01:02:20.000 There's no sign of this slowing down for any reason.

01:02:23.000 Right now it's winter.

01:02:24.000 Winter things, you know, are chill.

01:02:26.000 This happened last year.

01:02:28.000 People were like, eh, it's cold out, we're not going to see riots.

01:02:30.000 And then January 6th happened.

01:02:32.000 So what happens come springtime, especially June 2022, they overturn Roe v. Wade, man, you are going to see riots.

01:02:38.000 And it's going to escalate.

01:02:39.000 And now with Kyle Rittenhouse and the self-defense precedents and a lot of things we've seen, the left is arguing that they need to bring their guns out.

01:02:46.000 They need to bring their guns out because the right's gonna bring their guns out.

01:02:49.000 We've already had, we had two shootouts in Portland, I think only a couple months ago.

01:02:54.000 It's the craziest thing to me that people are like, nah, I think things are chillin' out.

01:02:57.000 I'm like, dude, it's been a month of winter and that's why you're saying that.

01:03:00.000 A couple months ago we had someone on the show and I was like, we had two shootouts in Portland.

01:03:04.000 Literally left and right wing groups shooting at each other in the street.

01:03:07.000 We had a guy driving his truck and Antifa blockaded the street and aimed rifles at the guy in his truck.

01:03:12.000 And he pulled out his gun and pointed it at them.

01:03:14.000 And I'm like, Why would I believe this is slowing down?

01:03:17.000 Now we got a midterm year and they're saying the Republicans are gonna sweep?

01:03:22.000 Yo, we already had people burn down buildings across this country, killing 25.

01:03:27.000 Why would it get any better?

01:03:30.000 No, it's a good question and I don't want to minimize.

01:03:34.000 The violence that we're experiencing or that we saw on January 6th or before that, which in my opinion, you find yourself, January 6th was bad.

01:03:44.000 What we saw before that was much worse to me.

01:03:45.000 It was much more, because the difference was, I look at DC, they got cops everywhere.

01:03:51.000 Now again, they weren't there that day.

01:03:54.000 Things were bad.

01:03:56.000 But I look at shop owners that were, everything that they've built is being destroyed.

01:04:01.000 Nobody was looking after that.

01:04:02.000 And we had, as you said, 25 people died.

01:04:04.000 It was the bloodiest civil unrest that we've had since the 60s.

01:04:08.000 So I don't minimize that.

01:04:11.000 But these people then went and voted for Joe Biden.

01:04:14.000 Which people?

01:04:15.000 In these big cities.

01:04:16.000 They went blue.

01:04:16.000 They went hard blue.

01:04:18.000 Yeah.

01:04:19.000 Kamala Harris, who was soliciting donations to bail the rioters out.

01:04:23.000 Joe Biden, 13 of his staff members, helped bail the rioters out.

01:04:26.000 And the people in Minnesota said, Blue no matter who?

01:04:29.000 People would actually say that.

01:04:31.000 Blue no matter who.

01:04:32.000 I'm like, what is going on?

01:04:33.000 Think about what you're doing before you do it.

01:04:36.000 It was incredibly dangerous.

01:04:37.000 I remember being infuriated by that.

01:04:40.000 Here's the thing.

01:04:42.000 Rittenhouse got GoFundMe shut down.

01:04:45.000 It's one guy accused of a crime.

01:04:47.000 You actually know the details.

01:04:49.000 When you're just giving money to a bunch of people that have been arrested for all this violent crime, that to me, I found it really troubling.

01:04:55.000 So what do you think happens come 2023 when Donald Trump, not even 2023, maybe this next year, towards the end of the year, Trump says, I am officially announcing I am running.

01:05:07.000 Yeah, what do you think these people are just going to be like, you know what?

01:05:07.000 Lord help us.

01:05:11.000 I've been my whole life let's say let's say Donald Trump gets elected you know five years ago just about five years ago and you've got someone who's 15 years old and so they're growing up in the Trump era hearing nothing in the press but Trump is evil he's a Nazi he's a fascist and must be stopped A few years go by, and now they're 19, and they're like, I'm going to vote.

01:05:33.000 A lot of young people.

01:05:34.000 Now these people are being told, as they're entering their early to mid-20s, Donald Trump is running again, this is it, the end of democracy, whatever.

01:05:43.000 You not only have the entire faction of Antifa, Who were college-age kids up to, you know, adult men.

01:05:49.000 The guy who attacked the ICE facility was in his 40s.

01:05:52.000 Now you've got, with another three years, another set of teenagers who are 15, who are watching all this go down, and they're aging into the fray.

01:06:00.000 More and more ideologues are being pulled in as we speak, and in three years, 15-year-olds will be 18.

01:06:07.000 They will issue their votes.

01:06:09.000 I think Trump's going to announce you're going to have 16, 17 year olds hearing in the media, screeching louder than you've ever seen, especially as the media is dying out.

01:06:19.000 Their ratings are in the gutter.

01:06:20.000 They're going to be like, we must embrace this more than we've ever embraced it.

01:06:23.000 And they're going to get violent.

01:06:24.000 Add this to the dismal economic outlook and more people becoming poorer and more people having no economic opportunities.

01:06:31.000 It's only going to make the situation that much worse, not just with crime in big urban areas, but nationally all throughout the United States.

01:06:39.000 Middle America has already been gutted by big pharma and the opioid epidemic, but I truly believe a lot of this is orchestrated, a lot of this is planned, whether it's done on purpose or whether it's incentivized by big money.

01:06:51.000 For for pure profit reasons, I think it starts on the micro level on the Internet with algorithms amplifying, escalating fights and drama.

01:07:00.000 And I think that's how it started off.

01:07:01.000 And I think it's slowly escalating into this huge snowball that some people are calling a civil war.

01:07:07.000 Some people are calling this left, right, divide and conquer scheme.

01:07:10.000 I see this done deliberately.

01:07:13.000 And as we fight each other, we never truly solve the problems that are really plaguing us.

01:07:17.000 Just two points.

01:07:18.000 First, I'll bet you a bottle of scotch that Donald Trump doesn't run again.

01:07:23.000 If you want.

01:07:23.000 We can talk terms afterwards.

01:07:25.000 We've talked to some former staffers who have said... You probably got better information than me.

01:07:29.000 I'm going just on my guess on Trump.

01:07:33.000 Here's the serious thing.

01:07:35.000 I think we have seen the rebirth of fascism in America.

01:07:41.000 In America for the first time.

01:07:42.000 If you go back and if you read what was happening in Europe in the 1920s, 1930s, fascism has finally arrived to the United States.

01:07:52.000 It exists on both the right and the left.

01:07:55.000 It's more ascendant right now, in my opinion, on the left.

01:07:58.000 And it frightens me more, frankly.

01:08:01.000 And so yeah, I think in the near term, the violence we're seeing is part of that.

01:08:08.000 Orwell said the word fascism.

01:08:11.000 He's like, it's useless because it's just a slur now.

01:08:14.000 We forgot what the word means.

01:08:17.000 But if you look at what fascism really meant, Um, you know, for one, it meant this idea that we were all one that, you know, the Italian word, you know, Fassi means it's a bundle of rods and that it's the opposite of liberalism, which says, you know, you can go your way.

01:08:33.000 We're going to go our way.

01:08:35.000 But when you look at like it's implementation.

01:08:38.000 That the fascists were all about blurring the lines of public and private life.

01:08:42.000 They wanted it.

01:08:43.000 They didn't see a difference.

01:08:44.000 If it didn't serve the public interest, you know, like they had no interest for private behavior that didn't serve it.

01:08:50.000 That's the Democrats.

01:08:50.000 So that's where we're arriving at that point.

01:08:53.000 And it's kind of frightening.

01:08:56.000 But we've seen darker times.

01:08:57.000 Liberty has seen darker times.

01:08:59.000 Fee, for example, was founded in 1946.

01:09:00.000 1946!

01:09:00.000 Just pause for a minute.

01:09:04.000 And think what 1946 looked like.

01:09:07.000 The communists were a global empire.

01:09:12.000 They were power hungry.

01:09:13.000 They were going everywhere.

01:09:15.000 Our ideas are better.

01:09:16.000 We have platforms to share them on.

01:09:20.000 We need to persuade people, don't go down this road.

01:09:23.000 Don't go down this road of toxic ideology where you empower the state to run your lives in this fashion.

01:09:32.000 The challenge I see is that, you know, we try to get leftists on the show periodically, but it's really hard.

01:09:40.000 But we have had Vosch, we've had Destiny, we've had Jen Perlman, we've had a variety of people who are libertarians, many who are hard leftists.

01:09:46.000 Destiny.

01:09:47.000 A few.

01:09:48.000 Yeah, I mentioned him.

01:09:49.000 But mostly we get libertarians, moderates, conservatives, and like, I think libertarian is probably the best way to put it.

01:09:56.000 Maybe not big L, but just people who are typically like, here's the news, I understand what's real.

01:10:02.000 The problem is, you know, we do this show with a variety of voices.

01:10:06.000 I mean, Luke is very libertarian.

01:10:09.000 He doesn't like to use labels.

01:10:10.000 I don't like that word.

01:10:12.000 I'm not saying Big Olly, you're a freedom guy.

01:10:15.000 Yeah.

01:10:15.000 He's a freedom guy and he's ragged on Trump the entirety of Trump's administration.

01:10:18.000 He was never a Trump MAGA guy.

01:10:20.000 The worst trolling I've ever had on Twitter was MAGA people. 0.81

01:10:24.000 They took issue with one of my tweets slamming Trump.

01:10:28.000 But you know, it's kind of a badge of honor.

01:10:30.000 You got to slam people when they're wrong.

01:10:32.000 I got ruthlessly attacked by them and it was fine and I welcomed it and I welcomed the battle of ideas.

01:10:36.000 It freaked me out.

01:10:37.000 It's the first time that happened to me.

01:10:38.000 So here's the issue.

01:10:41.000 The crisis that we're facing is a crisis of realities.

01:10:43.000 Two different universes colliding.

01:10:46.000 It's funny when people get in debates on Twitter over whether or not I'm leftist or conservative, because all conservatives are like, Tim's clearly a leftist.

01:10:53.000 But I agree with the right for the most part on what's reality.

01:10:56.000 So when they say Trump colluded with Russia, I'm like, well, that's clearly false.

01:10:59.000 I fact check it.

01:11:00.000 Conservatives are like, yes, that's correct too, because we've also looked into it.

01:11:03.000 But many of these establishment leftists believe something nonsensical.

01:11:07.000 So what happens is, On this show, we just try to be correct.

01:11:11.000 We're not always right.

01:11:12.000 We also try to make sure our labels are correct.

01:11:14.000 So I'll say something like, leftists are pro-second amendment.

01:11:16.000 That's a fact.

01:11:17.000 Liberals are not.

01:11:19.000 But a lot of times you hear the debate, it's broken down to the left hates guns, the right loves guns.

01:11:24.000 I'm like, no, socialists love guns too.

01:11:25.000 Karl Marx said, you know, under no pretext, that famous quote.

01:11:30.000 We try.

01:11:30.000 So we tried.

01:11:31.000 But we also point out, I think it's fair to say, when you follow the facts, you will see the Democratic Party is the bastion of fascism today in America, with many Republicans as well, the establishment.

01:11:42.000 You have the Lincoln Project, which were these former Republican, you know, big shots.

01:11:47.000 And they fled to the Democrats because Trump barged his way in.

01:11:50.000 Trump is not a fascist, in my opinion, and I think what Trump represented was national populism, which kind of upended the establishment political parties, which do have a tendency towards fascism.

01:12:00.000 But then you end up with many of the leftists blindly supporting Democrats because they live in different reality.

01:12:06.000 So when you get, um, Australia is a good example, and my feud on Twitter with, like, Claire Lehman, where I'm like, the Guardian has reported this, abc.net.au has reported this, and I say, and say, hey, it's really bad that they're taking people and putting them in camps.

01:12:21.000 But then you have people who genuinely believe I made that up.

01:12:24.000 So I went on Joe Rogan and I remember seeing, you know, this got posted on Twitter or whatever and one of the comments was, I'm 45 minutes in and it's very obvious this guy Tim Pool is making all of this stuff up.

01:12:35.000 What?

01:12:35.000 And that's because they live in a different, a totally different reality.

01:12:39.000 So if you believe Quillette, And you don't read the news.

01:12:43.000 It's crazy to believe that the Australian Defence Force was deployed in the Northern Territory and is assisting with setting up checkpoints and taking people by army truck, indigenous people, to quarantine camps.

01:12:56.000 But that's not my reporting.

01:12:57.000 That's The Guardian.

01:12:58.000 I mean, The Guardian's supposed to be some great outlet.

01:13:00.000 Well, Some people don't live in reality.

01:13:03.000 And because of that, they believe things that aren't true, they get angry, they get violent, and then they say, you're evil and I'll fight you.

01:13:09.000 How do you deal with that?

01:13:11.000 It's not an issue of my policy positions.

01:13:12.000 I'm pro-choice.

01:13:13.000 I'm fairly economically left libertarian.

01:13:16.000 But that's totally meaningless if the actual progressives don't agree on what is real.

01:13:22.000 Like, we were just looking at something from Kyle Kalinske, and we'll jump into this in a second, where he's claiming Dave Rubin got some guy banned on Twitter with no evidence.

01:13:30.000 And I'm just like, I would never report that because I would need verifiable evidence proving that Dave Rubin actually sent someone to get someone banned off the internet.

01:13:38.000 But they will report it as true.

01:13:40.000 Now certainly we all have our faults as well, we get things wrong too, so I don't want to, you know, I think Kyle Klinsky does a good job, but when you have Russiagate for years, when you have Rachel Maddow doubling, doubling, doubling down and it's not true, and they still don't let it go after every bit of evidence proves them wrong, I don't know how you rectify a group of people who are willing to burn down buildings, kill people, while believing insane stuff like this.

01:14:02.000 How do you solve for that?

01:14:03.000 No, it's the most terrifying part.

01:14:06.000 And I don't know when it started, but we live today in alternate universes, as you say.

01:14:11.000 There's another, I'll go back to Orwell.

01:14:12.000 He had a great quote.

01:14:13.000 I think he wrote it in the early 40s.

01:14:16.000 He's reflecting on his experience in the Spanish Civil War.

01:14:20.000 And he said, everything since 1936 is propaganda.

01:14:23.000 And he said, the guy with him nodded, and then he explained, he's like, look, from an early age I saw there was nothing ever written in a newspaper that was true.

01:14:34.000 He said, but, you know, it was during war, he said, where truth completely, it was obliterated.

01:14:40.000 He didn't use that word, but he explained it far more poetically.

01:14:44.000 It's one of the things I thought of in these recent years when you're watching a CNN clip and they're describing a mostly peaceful protest while buildings are burning in the background.

01:14:58.000 It's troubling when you see this, where truth is going.

01:15:03.000 Solzhenitsyn talked about the same thing.

01:15:04.000 During war, truth dies.

01:15:06.000 Again, I'm paraphrasing.

01:15:08.000 But you mentioned this, I hadn't thought of this, when you said we're already in a war.

01:15:13.000 I never thought of it that way, but in maybe one sense we are.

01:15:17.000 And when that is happening, truth, there's no place for truth.

01:15:22.000 And people that care about it, that actually, you know, if you tweet something wrong, you go fix it, you remove it, you apologize.

01:15:30.000 You know, when we're in the business of reporting, you get things wrong and you try to, you know, you correct it.

01:15:36.000 If you do this long enough, you'll make those mistakes.

01:15:38.000 What scares me is we kind of stopped doing that.

01:15:41.000 Media doesn't go and fix a lot of these mistakes anymore.

01:15:44.000 They do occasionally, but it is troubling.

01:15:48.000 Like we live in, you know, I'll bring up Solzhenitsyn again, live not by lies.

01:15:54.000 And I see lies everywhere today and I find it, you know, deeply troubling.

01:15:58.000 It's one of the reasons, you know, you looked at me, you know, like as a person that might, you know, say, well, it's not so bad.

01:16:05.000 I was more taking issue with the catalyst of being abortion, right?

01:16:09.000 I think there is going to be a catalyst that's going to cause some great civil unrest.

01:16:13.000 You know, I just don't think abortion will probably be the one.

01:16:18.000 I'm not a prepper, but at the same time I'm moving my family to a more safe area.

01:16:22.000 I was really close to that violence in the Twin Cities last year.

01:16:26.000 I was up at 2 in the morning watching all these buildings burned, my family sleeping next to me, and it was really troubling.

01:16:33.000 The preppers are the new prophets in our modern society, and the conspiracy theorists are the ones who literally have been calling things as they are right now.

01:16:42.000 It's absolutely incredible.

01:16:43.000 They're troubling times, but we We can get it fixed.

01:16:45.000 We have the right idea.

01:16:47.000 We gotta repeal the Patriot Act.

01:16:49.000 I think since September 11th, 2001, basically it's been a media manipulation frenzy getting us into Iraq.

01:16:56.000 I agree.

01:16:56.000 I thought of this today as I was going through the TSA.

01:17:00.000 I took a picture even, and I said, you know what?

01:17:03.000 Bin Laden won.

01:17:05.000 He got killed, but you know what?

01:17:07.000 Everything he was trying to do, he brought down this evil empire in a way, All the values we had kind of went out the window in 2000.

01:17:17.000 Yeah, terrorism won.

01:17:19.000 The U.S.

01:17:20.000 allowed itself, whether intentionally or unintentionally, allowed itself to become like a semi-terrorist.

01:17:24.000 It feels like I'm living in a sort of terror right now.

01:17:27.000 So get this.

01:17:28.000 While you've been talking, I've been trying to pull up this image that shows the perfect example of the different realities, and I can't pull it up.

01:17:36.000 So I do have some examples, but you can see this on my Instagram.

01:17:40.000 There's two TV screens, I believe it's at a gym.

01:17:44.000 On the left, it says, Sondland confirms quid pro quo.

01:17:47.000 On the right, it says, I want nothing.

01:17:49.000 Sondland confirms Trump no quid pro quo.

01:17:53.000 The reality is, and I wrote about this, was that the truth was there was no quid pro quo.

01:18:00.000 So this is in reference to Trump, the impeachment, Ukraine trial.

01:18:04.000 It was complete fabrication lies from the establishment.

01:18:08.000 And the leftists were in line with them, and they believed Trump did these things.

01:18:12.000 And I think a lot of the democratic socialist types, like the actual core leftists, probably, it goes over their head.

01:18:16.000 But in this image, I can't even pull it up anymore.

01:18:19.000 I basically say, Gordon Sondland said, I personally believe there was a quid pro quo, but Trump said there wasn't.

01:18:25.000 Right.

01:18:26.000 And my response is, okay, well, your opinion on what you think may have happened is not a fact relevant to the impeachment.

01:18:32.000 The question is, what did Trump actually say?

01:18:34.000 And Trump said, I want nothing, no quid pro quo, just, you know, go and do this.

01:18:37.000 And I can't pull it up?

01:18:39.000 Sorry, this page is not available.

01:18:40.000 I can show you this, however.

01:18:42.000 A really good example.

01:18:43.000 I wrote, same screen, different movie.

01:18:45.000 This is a reference to Scott Adams' quote about everyone's watching the same screen but seeing two different things.

01:18:50.000 On the left you have Benny Johnson, who said, Ted Cruz nukes conspiracy theorist, DNC activist Chuck Todd.

01:18:56.000 Chuck, Ukraine, was trying to get Hillary Clinton elected, which is what the media wanted.

01:19:00.000 Ukraine meddling is inconvenient for your narrative, Dems have no evidence of a crime, now you're working for Adam Schiff.

01:19:06.000 On the right is John Harwood, a mainstream media reporter who said Ted Cruz disseminating propaganda fabricated by the Kremlin to weaken the U.S.

01:19:14.000 The reality is, Benny Johnson, a bit hyperbolic, but there's more truth to what he said.

01:19:19.000 Politico reported, I believe it was in January of 2017, that elements in Ukraine, high-ranking government officials, colluded with the Democrats to try and help Hillary Clinton, to hurt Donald Trump.

01:19:34.000 And it wasn't like a grand, orchestrated Ukrainian government operation.

01:19:37.000 It was a small thing.

01:19:39.000 That's true.

01:19:40.000 Politico reported it.

01:19:42.000 I mean, maybe it's not true.

01:19:43.000 Maybe Politico made it up.

01:19:44.000 You pick.

01:19:45.000 But I can only operate based on what these news outlets claim is true.

01:19:47.000 I believe that may have been Ken Delaney who reported it.

01:19:50.000 I'm not entirely sure.

01:19:51.000 But for John Harwood to come out and say it was Kremlin propaganda when the reporting was literally Politico and the New York Times reported Ukrainian court rules that Ukrainians were meddling in the U.S.

01:20:01.000 election, I'm like, that happened.

01:20:04.000 But what do you end up with?

01:20:06.000 They impeach Donald Trump on fabricated narratives.

01:20:09.000 Now look, you don't gotta like Trump.

01:20:11.000 At this point I was like, look, stop making me defend the guy. 0.98

01:20:14.000 How are we supposed to reconcile what's happening when you have people who are just outright believing made up trash? 0.73

01:20:22.000 This guy John Harwood literally made that up. 0.92

01:20:24.000 I want to say that again.

01:20:25.000 John Harwood completely fabricated this statement, disseminating information he made up in his own mind, and he gets away with it.

01:20:35.000 That does confirm everything I know about Harwood, by the way.

01:20:40.000 But so, so, so, it's two realities.

01:20:43.000 You've got the establishment desperately trying to hold on for control, and maybe they won't, they won't make it.

01:20:48.000 Maybe they won't be able to because of the expansion of new technologies and because, you know, our generation is just more social media savvy.

01:20:56.000 Young people are not going to be watching the TV in this way.

01:20:58.000 Meet the Press is probably going to be worthless, but YouTube still props them up, puts them on the front page.

01:21:04.000 We live in an age of propaganda.

01:21:04.000 It is.

01:21:06.000 And the problem is that would be difficult.

01:21:08.000 That would be a big problem, even if we are a highly educated society that could, you know, tell.

01:21:13.000 But you do polling today and you see a majority of Americans can't tell fact from opinion.

01:21:18.000 So this is on multiple fronts.

01:21:22.000 There are problems.

01:21:23.000 And, you know, like I think, you know, if if we're being honest with ourselves, there's going to be a little bit more pain before things get better.

01:21:32.000 Yeah, I think one of the challenges is that, have you ever been to Northern Ireland?

01:21:37.000 No.

01:21:38.000 So I went there, and far be it for me to be an expert, but I saw some allusions, that's not illusions, allusions, to some of the things we're seeing here, and that's the peace wall, separating the different sides in the fighting that took place in Northern Ireland.

01:21:52.000 And on one side, they're pro-Israel, and there's a bunch of art, and on the other side, they're pro-Palestine.

01:21:57.000 And I'm like, what does that have to do with your conflict?

01:21:59.000 It didn't matter.

01:22:00.000 It was tribalism.

01:22:01.000 If one side adopted an idea, the other side adopted the counterpoint.

01:22:05.000 And that's what I see here.

01:22:06.000 If you have entire generations that are raised in completely different realities...

01:22:11.000 Well, let's talk about some big tech real quick before we get into the Super Chat segment.

01:22:14.000 I gotta talk about this.

01:22:15.000 This is huge news.

01:22:16.000 We got this from TimCast.com.

01:22:18.000 Neutral video platform Rumble to go public with an initial enterprise value of $2.1 billion.

01:22:23.000 Rumble's skyrocketing viewer engagement is a promising sign.

01:22:28.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:22:30.000 It is a promising sign.

01:22:31.000 Basically, they're doing a SPAC, a Special Purpose Acquisition Company, through Cantor Fitzgerald.

01:22:38.000 That's what it's called.

01:22:40.000 They say CF Acquisition Corp.

01:22:41.000 CFVI is a global financial services firm led by Cantor Financial Chairman and Chief Executive Howard W. Lutnick.

01:22:50.000 It's a SPAC, meaning it has no commercial operations and exists only to raise money through an initial public offering.

01:22:55.000 It exists with the intention of merging with another company.

01:22:57.000 So we know that it's going to be merging with Rumble.

01:23:00.000 The company will then become Rumble, effectively allowing Rumble to go public.

01:23:04.000 But it also then does bring in this other institutional investment firm as people with power over Rumble.

01:23:11.000 I think there's some really good things here.

01:23:14.000 There's also some really bad things here.

01:23:15.000 And the first thing I'll say is, man, Ian, did you call it?

01:23:17.000 Dude, get ready for State Street, BlackRock, and then what's that other investment firm?

01:23:21.000 The other big one?

01:23:22.000 Blackstone?

01:23:23.000 No, BlackRock, State Street, and there's a third one that's huge.

01:23:23.000 I don't know.

01:23:26.000 They're all going to put 8% into this company.

01:23:27.000 Get ready.

01:23:28.000 Why would not these big, you know, BlackRock and whatever, why wouldn't they be like, oh yeah, we'll buy shares.

01:23:34.000 Oh, it's publicly traded now?

01:23:36.000 Look at Apple.

01:23:37.000 It's great that there is competition to YouTube.

01:23:37.000 First, I'll say the good.

01:23:39.000 It's great that Rumble is growing.

01:23:41.000 These are net positives.

01:23:41.000 investment firms own like 7-8% of almost all these top companies.

01:23:45.000 They just get a little bit, so it doesn't look like they have too much control.

01:23:48.000 They got a little bit of almost everything.

01:23:50.000 First I'll say the good.

01:23:51.000 It's great that there is competition to YouTube.

01:23:54.000 It's great that Rumble is growing.

01:23:56.000 These are net positives, but I don't think it's a long-term solution.

01:23:59.000 If now with Rumble supposedly going to have, I think, what did they say?

01:24:03.000 400 million in proceeds.

01:24:05.000 Rumble will receive approximately $400 million in proceeds, a combination of a fully committed pipe of $100 million at $10 per share, and $300 million of cash held in the trust account of CFVI.

01:24:14.000 I don't know how much they'll be able to spend, but if this means that Rumble can then go to prominent individuals and say, how much do you make on YouTube?

01:24:21.000 And they go, oh, I make $10K a month.

01:24:23.000 And they say, we'll give you $11K.

01:24:24.000 Move to Rumble.

01:24:25.000 And they'll go, Done!

01:24:27.000 Is it that easy?

01:24:27.000 Don't you have to, like, spend all this time and effort building the audience and all that?

01:24:31.000 You do, but, um, I mean, look, one of the biggest problems with competing with YouTube is that Google subsidizes YouTube.

01:24:38.000 So they're putting way more money in than the platform actually makes.

01:24:41.000 They're effectively doing just that.

01:24:43.000 Stay on our platform, you're gonna make all this money based on your viewer count.

01:24:46.000 Rumble can counter that, and they did, by basically doing deals with people.

01:24:49.000 We'll give you X years at X amount of money to produce content on the platform.

01:24:53.000 Then we'll help, you know, it'll help us grow, it will help you grow, put you on the front page.

01:24:57.000 That can be really powerful.

01:24:58.000 What Rumble needs to do right now with this money is they need to buy billboards.

01:25:02.000 And I know it sounds silly and it's archaic and silly, you know, old school, but you need that mainstream presence where regular people are gonna see Rumble, they're gonna see Glenn Green walled up on a billboard on Sunset Boulevard or in New York, and that means something.

01:25:16.000 That means Rumble is mainstream, and it's not that expensive to do, especially if they have this.

01:25:22.000 So that's the good here.

01:25:23.000 Here's the bad.

01:25:25.000 As Ian pointed out, all of these big institutional investment firms are going to get their pinkies in it very easily.

01:25:30.000 It's publicly traded.

01:25:31.000 Once they have enough control, Rumble is done.

01:25:35.000 People say, yeah, but look, Chris, the CEO, Pavlovsky, is still going to be involved.

01:25:39.000 And full disclosure, I've talked to him.

01:25:41.000 I digitally know him.

01:25:42.000 I've never met him in person.

01:25:43.000 And I said, yes.

01:25:44.000 And when I worked at Vice, Shane Smith, the CEO, controlled the board.

01:25:48.000 And that became a feminist company in a couple years after they took investment from large institutional investment firms. 1.00

01:25:54.000 I mean, Vice had investment from other places before I got there, but when Disney came in, when Fox came in, and these people invested, and then he said, don't worry, I control the board, it took two and a half years, and the company became Woke Feminist.

01:26:09.000 And like a CEO, he's used, what's his name again?

01:26:12.000 Chris Pavlovsky?

01:26:13.000 Chris probably used to calling all the shots.

01:26:15.000 He walks into the meeting.

01:26:16.000 He says, we're doing this.

01:26:17.000 We're doing that.

01:26:18.000 And now I know he's still the majority shareholder.

01:26:20.000 So I think he still has board control, but he's going to be surrounded by people that are harping on him every day.

01:26:26.000 He's going to get tired of those meetings.

01:26:27.000 And then he wants, then he's going to want to get out.

01:26:29.000 I'm not saying it's going to happen, but that's usually what will happen.

01:26:32.000 They're using attrition to get you out.

01:26:34.000 I just looked up Alphabet shareholders as of December 20th.

01:26:37.000 This is a company that owns Google, that owns YouTube.

01:26:40.000 Vanguard is their top investment holder.

01:26:42.000 So it's State Street, BlackRock, and Vanguard, these three investment firms.

01:26:45.000 Vanguard's got 6.4%.

01:26:47.000 BlackRock has 5.5%.

01:26:48.000 They're going to get on the ground floor, man.

01:26:50.000 And then those three companies own about 20% of your company.

01:26:54.000 If they collude, I don't know.

01:26:55.000 I've never seen proof of it.

01:26:57.000 It's not that.

01:26:58.000 What I was told by someone who is a former executive at Vice, the reason they got woke was because the investors all came in.

01:27:06.000 And even though they didn't have majority power or anything, they said, we have enough power on the back end outside your company.

01:27:12.000 You need to do this now.

01:27:13.000 And they were like, all right, we'll make the changes.

01:27:16.000 So first, I'll break down the worst of it.

01:27:20.000 Dave Rubin's promises are worthless.

01:27:22.000 Dave Rubin, after Patreon, do you remember Patreon banned people and that whole thing?

01:27:26.000 So he goes to these creators, people like Michael Malice, and he says, look, join my platform, you know me, you can call me, we're not gonna ban you, you know what this is all about, we're gonna make a safe place.

01:27:38.000 Well then, locals sold to Rumble.

01:27:41.000 Dave, I don't know exactly what his position is, but he's like, no, nothing's changed.

01:27:44.000 He's like, I'm still involved.

01:27:45.000 Like, we're not going to ban anybody.

01:27:47.000 But now, anything he promised you is meaningless because Locals is owned by Rumble.

01:27:54.000 Do you trust Chris?

01:27:54.000 So now it's Chris.

01:27:56.000 Well, I never had a deal with that guy.

01:27:57.000 Like, so maybe you're someone on Locals.

01:27:59.000 You're like, I never talked to that guy.

01:28:00.000 How am I supposed to get a hold of him?

01:28:00.000 I don't know who he is.

01:28:02.000 I guess I'll still, maybe Ruben can still help me out.

01:28:05.000 Now they've done this public SPAC deal, and they've got institutional investors involved as advisors for legal advisement and financial advisement.

01:28:14.000 And as Ian pointed out, why would not these big firms be like, hey, a massively expanding company that gained 8 million users in a month?

01:28:23.000 I'm in, right? A lot of people might want to buy into that.

01:28:26.000 And then all of a sudden they're going to say my bottom line is being threatened because you're

01:28:31.000 hosting x content or y content or z content.

01:28:34.000 And then what happens now? What happens now when the institutional investors are involved and all

01:28:38.000 of a sudden your local's account gets nuked? That would be really bad for their business,

01:28:43.000 so I don't see it happening anytime soon.

01:28:45.000 But it just, it says to me that what I really don't like is that following the crisis of Patreon and the censorship, Dave Rubin went to a ton of people and said, trust me, and then it was what, two years later, he sold that and his promise is gone.

01:28:58.000 These people, they own their data.

01:28:59.000 That's what Dave says.

01:29:00.000 Yeah, well, good luck getting two to five thousand people who have subscribed to your platform to leave and know where your new platform is.

01:29:08.000 You get locked in.

01:29:09.000 You're giving a percentage of your income to them, and their promises became worthless the moment they sold the company.

01:29:14.000 Now, they say, oh, don't worry, Chris is, you know, he's gonna retain majority control.

01:29:18.000 Great.

01:29:19.000 I've seen that happen before.

01:29:20.000 It's meaningless.

01:29:21.000 These companies get in, they invest, it doesn't matter.

01:29:23.000 They've opened the door and said, anybody who wants in can get in.

01:29:27.000 And that means anyone who opposes free speech can simply just- George Soros.

01:29:31.000 He could be like, alright, I will buy whatever I can buy.

01:29:34.000 He'll, he'll buy like stock in a bunch of companies that'll buy stock.

01:29:38.000 That's right.

01:29:38.000 So it'll look like 12 different companies, but Soros owns 6% of each of them.

01:29:42.000 Bill Gates likes to do that too.

01:29:43.000 So there's a Koch brothers, but then they get into the ESG social corporate credit score, and then they are really put into a place where they have to comply or they lose all of their funding, lose all of their money.

01:29:53.000 And that's really where they get a lot of big corporations.

01:29:55.000 So is the fear that Rumble's going to be YouTube in five years?

01:29:59.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:29:59.000 Rumble's going to be bought by Alphabet in two.

01:30:01.000 That's my fear, is that Rumble's going to get bought by Microsoft.

01:30:03.000 It's probably not too far.

01:30:04.000 Yeah, well, they'll probably look at anti-trust lawsuits if they do.

01:30:07.000 I would hope so.

01:30:09.000 And I hope not.

01:30:09.000 I really doubt.

01:30:11.000 Here's the thing.

01:30:13.000 In a market economy, there's probably half a dozen or more, a dozen competitors to Rumble that we haven't even talked about yet.

01:30:20.000 Like there are solutions to this.

01:30:22.000 And you know the video space much better than me.

01:30:26.000 Hopefully Rumble recognizes that they have value in allowing different voices on their platform.

01:30:32.000 And here's my hunch.

01:30:34.000 YouTube so far has navigated this.

01:30:36.000 You start kicking off enough people and choking their speech, you're gonna lose not just your audience, but the people producing the content.

01:30:46.000 How much are you publishing on YouTube now?

01:30:48.000 So we do, I think, probably close to three hours every day.

01:30:52.000 Okay.

01:30:52.000 Well, that's a lot.

01:30:53.000 And we do put a lot of, we do use Rumble, and we also post on BitChute and Odyssey.

01:31:00.000 And look, like, this worries me for the long term, you know, situation with Rumble and trying to fight censorship.

01:31:08.000 The problem is it feels like we were facing a crisis of censorship and we had people like Dave and Chris be like, everybody quick, hop on board this safety ship.

01:31:18.000 And then it's like turning around and going right back to Google.

01:31:20.000 It's going right back to big tech and institutional investment.

01:31:22.000 And you're like, we're trying to get away from this.

01:31:25.000 So it's like three years of hard work was just erased because we know the path this leads down.

01:31:31.000 And I'm going to stress this point.

01:31:34.000 Everything Ian said about this happened.

01:31:36.000 When it came to locals, when it came to local selling, when it comes to what Rumble was going to do, now he's predicting the big firms will buy up a percentage.

01:31:43.000 I'd be willing to bet Ian's right about this.

01:31:45.000 And I think it's fair to say, considering he co-founded Mines and watched the process of investment coming in.

01:31:50.000 Not that Mines fell through that.

01:31:51.000 No, and thank God we stayed private.

01:31:53.000 And TimCast is private.

01:31:54.000 I think private company is the way to go.

01:31:56.000 You can take a private company to the top.

01:31:58.000 You do not need to sell out.

01:32:00.000 Great call, by the way.

01:32:02.000 The fact that you even saw that coming is pretty impressive.

01:32:04.000 We didn't think it was going to be in three weeks that fast.

01:32:06.000 Dave basically said, hey, Chris, let me sell you Locals.

01:32:10.000 I'll take a percentage of Rumble.

01:32:11.000 They're like, cool.

01:32:11.000 And then we'll go public.

01:32:13.000 And I mean, it was like a month that happened.

01:32:15.000 He sold it and then they went public.

01:32:17.000 I kind of feel like the speed at which it was late October that Locals announced it was being acquired by Rumble.

01:32:25.000 And then about a month later, Rumble announced a SPAC with Cantor Fitzgerald to go public.

01:32:33.000 and now they're saying it's a 2.1 billion dollar company and I'm like,

01:32:33.000 Yeah.

01:32:36.000 sounds like a cash out to me.

01:32:37.000 Sounds like creating a massive risk to the users who are looking for people who

01:32:43.000 believed in their rights, their free speech, and were going to create a space.

01:32:45.000 But you know what, here's what I said before, I'll say it again.

01:32:48.000 Good for them for being entrepreneurs.

01:32:50.000 They have a right to do what they did.

01:32:51.000 People like the platform want to use it.

01:32:53.000 Michael Malice was like, you know, look, I needed a space.

01:32:56.000 Dave Rubin offered it to me.

01:32:56.000 I know him and I feel better on here than I do on Patreon, so it works for me.

01:33:00.000 And my attitude is like, I wish we had the millions of dollars to fund our operation for our decentralized tech when all this was going on, so that instead of there being a rumble that says, we're going public and we're going to allow, which effectively allows anybody to come in and buy in, which means the bad guys are now, the door is open to them.

01:33:19.000 If we had gone at the same time and we had, you know, the decentralized tech we had, we'd be like, we don't own it.

01:33:24.000 We can't sell it if we wanted to.

01:33:25.000 Are you looking at like blockchain stuff like for hosting?

01:33:28.000 Yeah.

01:33:28.000 Oh, that'd be awesome.

01:33:29.000 Or IPFS stuff like decentralized mesh networking.

01:33:33.000 Yeah, that's a big part of it.

01:33:34.000 I've been thinking about it all morning.

01:33:36.000 Like decentralized hosting.

01:33:38.000 No, that's the way, I mean, that's what we need, right?

01:33:40.000 Like, we were talking earlier, somebody in the group downstairs, you know, like, if we saw it with, what was it?

01:33:48.000 Parler.

01:33:49.000 If you don't have, you know, access to, they can cut you off that fast.

01:33:54.000 Like, weren't they accessing Amazon servers?

01:33:57.000 Yeah, Parler was on AWS, and Amazon shut them down.

01:33:59.000 Just like that.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, Ethereum is on AWS, isn't it?

01:34:01.000 Yep.

01:34:03.000 I don't know.

01:34:03.000 The ERC-20 network?

01:34:05.000 I don't know where it rides, if it's on a multitude of... Ideally, now, you would have access to a multitude of servers, and if AWS cuts you off, you can immediately, within like 10 to 15 minutes, port over your new data to a new server that maybe is in your house, or... I want to make raspberry pies and preload the software and sell them as part of the organization.

01:34:23.000 Dan Bongino is an investor into Rumble.

01:34:25.000 I believe Peter Thiel is, too, as well.

01:34:27.000 I've heard that.

01:34:28.000 And I think Peter Thiel is fairly opposed to a lot of the wokeness and all that stuff.

01:34:32.000 I mean, he didn't like Gawker.

01:34:33.000 He went after them.

01:34:33.000 He's spoken out, I think.

01:34:36.000 So I know for a fact Dave is as well.

01:34:38.000 So all of these people I know, you know, have been fighting against Authoritarianism and a lot of bad stuff.

01:34:45.000 The problem is you go public, you've opened the door and you said come on in.

01:34:47.000 I've known Teo for years.

01:34:49.000 Teo is a Bilderberg board member.

01:34:51.000 I had many interesting conversations with him about that on the YouTube channel.

01:34:51.000 I talked to him.

01:34:57.000 But it's hard because a lot of people put their full faith and trust into a lot of these platforms and a lot of times They don't know what's going to happen with that huge business, with that huge infrastructure, and that's why I don't put any faith in anything else I could trust.

01:35:12.000 I have my own private business, my own platform, and I'm building that up and have been building that up for over 10 years.

01:35:17.000 You should never have to trust a person.

01:35:19.000 At a corporation.

01:35:20.000 The contract should speak for itself.

01:35:22.000 But the thing is, people trust Elon Musk.

01:35:25.000 They have hope for the future because superheroes do exist.

01:35:25.000 They want to like him.

01:35:28.000 I was just going to say, for years now, I think I've joked that Peter Thiel and Musk need to get together and launch their own social network that's going to be a platform people can actually speak on without fear of getting nixed like that.

01:35:42.000 If it's decentralized, yeah.

01:35:43.000 But then, is it even a platform anymore?

01:35:45.000 That's a good conversation to have.

01:35:47.000 Let's go to Super Chats!

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01:35:54.000 We're gonna have a members-only segment coming up around 11 or so p.m., but let's read what you guys got to say.

01:35:59.000 We got this from...

01:36:01.000 A Sense of Muse 3 says, Tim, I sent a package to you that was returned unclaimed.

01:36:06.000 So I sent it again.

01:36:07.000 Hopefully the post office places a notice in your PO box this time.

01:36:09.000 Hope you get the package.

01:36:11.000 The problem was, we got too much stuff sent to us.

01:36:14.000 There was so much stuff, they started just kicking back the stuff that was coming.

01:36:18.000 And that's a bummer.

01:36:19.000 I'm like, what are we supposed to do?

01:36:21.000 We told the post office, like, hey, we get stuff sent here.

01:36:23.000 And they're like, yeah, well, too much stuff got sent here.

01:36:25.000 And I'm like, Okay, I guess.

01:36:27.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:36:28.000 So, but it shouldn't be a problem.

01:36:31.000 We, like, we worked it out and we think we have, like, more space and we're gonna increase the frequency of pickups and things like that.

01:36:36.000 So feel free to send away if you'd like to send stuff to us.

01:36:41.000 Julie B says, check out Global Difference Group.

01:36:43.000 They are helping people protect themselves from the vax passports. 1.00

01:36:46.000 Not heard of that.

01:36:46.000 Interesting.

01:36:47.000 What were they called?

01:36:48.000 Global Difference Group.

01:36:52.000 It was interesting.

01:36:53.000 Trinity says, look at Strong's concordance, then read Revelations 18.23.

01:36:59.000 Sorceries mean pharmakeia?

01:37:01.000 Pharmakeia?

01:37:02.000 Okay, so that's Strong's concordance.

01:37:04.000 Strong's concordance.

01:37:05.000 Yeah, what is that?

01:37:05.000 Yeah, so a concordance is like a way to reference Bible verses and like kind of correlate them with other Bible verses, get translations for words and stuff.

01:37:13.000 It's really interesting what she has to say about pharmakeia.

01:37:15.000 I'm going to have to look that up.

01:37:17.000 All right.

01:37:18.000 Neanderthal says it's even worse than you know, Tim.

01:37:21.000 The vax pass will expire every six months in Germany.

01:37:25.000 And your vaccination status expires every nine.

01:37:27.000 Yep.

01:37:28.000 And the European Commissioner President just said that she wants to start a discussion about making it mandatory for all of Europe, this after a month when she was seen canoodling with the Pfizer CEO.

01:37:38.000 Oh, that's right.

01:37:38.000 Yeah, great.

01:37:40.000 Good stuff.

01:37:42.000 Man, jeez.

01:37:42.000 Things are going well.

01:37:44.000 Jett L says, do the people that drive alone with a mask also lay alone in bed with a condom on?

01:37:48.000 I hope so.

01:37:49.000 I hope so.

01:37:50.000 Great comment.

01:37:51.000 I hope they wake up with it on too.

01:37:53.000 I'm making a shirt out of that.

01:37:54.000 He's the winner if we have it on.

01:37:55.000 That's going to be a shirt.

01:37:56.000 That's great.

01:37:57.000 Write it down.

01:37:58.000 Taking a note.

01:38:03.000 Nate says, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a virus's goal to survive and not kill the host?

01:38:08.000 Yes, you are correct.

01:38:10.000 So I don't know if that is a goal, but... That's the whole point of its existence.

01:38:14.000 Sort of.

01:38:15.000 Reproduction.

01:38:16.000 So wouldn't it be the virus's best interest to become more transmissible and less deadly?

01:38:20.000 Yes.

01:38:20.000 That might be a high thought.

01:38:23.000 Oh well, love the show.

01:38:25.000 You're correct.

01:38:25.000 That's literally true.

01:38:27.000 What's been happening with COVID is that the initial strain Was really brutal.

01:38:31.000 Really, really brutal.

01:38:32.000 But because it was so brutal, people were quarantining, we had shut things down, and then what ends up happening is the more brutal version struggles to spread because people are too sick.

01:38:41.000 So then what happens is when variants start emerging, there's probably deadlier variants, they don't go anywhere.

01:38:47.000 Super deadly doesn't go anywhere, but the transmissible one that's less deadly gets somebody mildly sick.

01:38:52.000 Now they're like, I'm fine, I can go to work.

01:38:54.000 They get other people sick.

01:38:55.000 the less deadly one spreads more and more and more. Over the past two years, we have seen

01:38:59.000 the strains become less deadly but more transmissible, which makes total sense.

01:39:04.000 You might end up with the sniffles and ignore it, and then all of a sudden you're spreading

01:39:09.000 whatever variant, the Fauci variant, the Stelter variant.

01:39:13.000 Ideally, you have no symptoms.

01:39:15.000 I think someone was saying, it might have been you, Tim, that there are like thousands of viruses and bacterium in the human body.

01:39:21.000 Just, I don't know, I don't have the exact numbers, but we've learned to live with them.

01:39:24.000 We've overcome the negative side effects.

01:39:27.000 So, from my incomplete scientific understanding, the human body is largely comprised of bacteria and a lot of different viruses that make us have symptoms we don't even recognize.

01:39:36.000 And they've become so subtle, they spread that way, we never even know we have them.

01:39:40.000 I'm hopeful.

01:39:41.000 And some bacteria is good, like your gut bacteria.

01:39:42.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:39:43.000 I bet some viruses are good.

01:39:44.000 I have no evidence for that, but they probably have helped us evolve over the decade, millennia.

01:39:48.000 Possible.

01:39:49.000 Definitely, yeah.

01:39:50.000 All right.

01:39:50.000 The Vagrancy Horror says, Hey Tim, could you, could my eldritch horror story channel get a shout out?

01:39:56.000 P.S.

01:39:56.000 Luke, I think you'd like it a lot.

01:39:58.000 Cool.

01:39:59.000 We got two super chats here from Brett Tesdel and H Music referencing that Rand Paul was on Crowder this morning and suggested that pharmaceutical companies have a Delta-specific vaccine.

01:40:09.000 Interesting.

01:40:10.000 Oh, Rand said that?

01:40:12.000 Ricky Ford says the same thing.

01:40:13.000 Rand Paul told Crowder this morning that they have a Delta variant vaccine.

01:40:16.000 Interesting.

01:40:16.000 I didn't know that.

01:40:17.000 Well, Congress and, you know, the special super class usually has a whole different set of medications and protocols than the plebs do. 1.00

01:40:23.000 That sounds right.

01:40:25.000 Do you think that'll ever change?

01:40:25.000 Are we going to have a vaccine now for every variant?

01:40:27.000 Is that the idea?

01:40:28.000 And then you gotta get all of them.

01:40:30.000 Collect them all.

01:40:31.000 I don't know how that works.

01:40:31.000 AcePraetor says I demanded HR have legal send me a statement they will or will not require vaccines for

01:40:38.000 continued medical benefits for employees and children for coverage. They sat on the fence like Luke last night.

01:40:43.000 What was Luke on the fence?

01:40:45.000 I said I was sitting on the fence but then I pretty much exposed my personal deep in love for a great dark loop.

01:40:50.000 After the show Luke was just like pro-life all the way you know.

01:40:54.000 No, no, we had a very interesting conversation that didn't include that.

01:40:59.000 That created the thought of creating children, rather than... Blisterin, MCE says, as an Australian, I am disgusted at the cognitive dissonance of the rest of my country.

01:41:09.000 Uh, county.

01:41:10.000 County or country?

01:41:12.000 Well, pinned to the chat right now is our poster trolling the entire country of Australia, and you can pick that up.

01:41:17.000 There's also a t-shirt, so if you go to TimCast.com and click store, you will see the t-shirt version and the poster version.

01:41:21.000 We're going to get one of the posters and hang them up.

01:41:23.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

01:41:24.000 It's a vacation.

01:41:25.000 It's like, come visit Howard Springs.

01:41:27.000 There's razor wire.

01:41:28.000 It's a staycation.

01:41:28.000 People running from cops.

01:41:30.000 People did start saying you can check out anytime, but you can never leave.

01:41:30.000 Come to stay.

01:41:34.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

01:41:35.000 Somebody said a beach towel incoming.

01:41:35.000 Yeah.

01:41:37.000 I was like, yes.

01:41:39.000 Alright, let's see...

01:41:42.000 Jimmy Freckle says, keep up the good work.

01:41:44.000 This is our moment.

01:41:44.000 Remember us.

01:41:45.000 All right.

01:41:45.000 Appreciate it.

01:41:46.000 Thank you, sir.

01:41:46.000 Thank you, Jimmy.

01:41:48.000 Unreasonably Angry says, Jussie going for eggs at 2 in the morning reminds me of that one scene from Spongebob where Patrick wakes up and goes, oh boy, 3 a.m.

01:41:56.000 and pulls out a random Krabby Patty.

01:42:00.000 Did you guys know that was the story with Jussie Smollett?

01:42:02.000 Subways, no?

01:42:02.000 No, he was going for eggs.

01:42:03.000 No, eggs.

01:42:04.000 Wow.

01:42:05.000 He went initially for eggs.

01:42:06.000 He said that he had a craving for eggs at 2 in the morning, but Walgreens was closed, so he went to Subway.

01:42:11.000 That's a horrible excuse.

01:42:12.000 That's the craziest thing ever!

01:42:15.000 Who can't relate with a man?

01:42:17.000 Who can't relate with someone who woke up at 2 a.m.

01:42:19.000 with an egg craving?

01:42:21.000 How long is that trial gonna go on?

01:42:23.000 Oh, it's gonna be done quick.

01:42:25.000 Yeah, I guess both brothers have already testified, and I love it.

01:42:28.000 The New York Post reported that they testified they would have sleepovers together, and I'm like, I don't think that's what adults call it.

01:42:34.000 There's a family-friendly show.

01:42:41.000 Yeah, but they were getting drugs for him and both brothers, I think, were basically like, yeah, he paid us to do it, you know?

01:42:46.000 There's bathhouses involved. 1.00

01:42:48.000 But I think it's fair to point out, these two guys...

01:42:53.000 We don't have to trust them, you know what I mean?

01:42:55.000 If they're claiming they were in on it, for all we know, they went to Jussie and they were like, hey, we got an idea.

01:43:00.000 We'll make a ton of money.

01:43:01.000 You in?

01:43:02.000 And Jussie was like, all right, I'm in.

01:43:03.000 Does it matter?

01:43:03.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:05.000 Well, I'm just saying, we shouldn't act like these two guys were just like, Jussie's asked us to do it.

01:43:10.000 He's our friend.

01:43:11.000 They're willing co-conspirators.

01:43:13.000 They should be charged too for this.

01:43:15.000 Do they have immunity?

01:43:16.000 Do they get immunity?

01:43:16.000 I think they do.

01:43:17.000 Probably.

01:43:17.000 Probably, yeah.

01:43:18.000 To testify.

01:43:19.000 Because Jussie's the big fish. 0.99

01:43:20.000 They got a deal of some kind.

01:43:21.000 Yeah.

01:43:26.000 More maybe, but then we'll have to increase it again in the future.

01:43:36.000 I like the idea of removing the House of Representatives and just having it be like a smart contract that triggers when the votes come in of your jurisdiction and says yes or no for you.

01:43:45.000 You don't have to rely on a human to do it for you.

01:43:47.000 That way the program can't get bribed.

01:43:49.000 It could get hacked, but it couldn't get bribed.

01:43:51.000 BlackrockBeacon says, I agree that the culture war is a fifth-generational conflict, but the goal of fifth-generational tactics is to weaken and disorganize the target so they are either unable to mount an effective defense or forced to surrender.

01:44:04.000 However, all fights end on the ground.

01:44:08.000 When I was a kid, almost every fight that would break out would be a wrestling match.

01:44:11.000 And I was like, when I watch movies, they do like kicks and blocks and stuff.

01:44:14.000 How come you guys just like roll around on the ground, like shoving each other?

01:44:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:18.000 I was a wrestler.

01:44:18.000 That was my sport.

01:44:20.000 Oh, that's a good one.

01:44:21.000 I guess it's because it comes in handy.

01:44:22.000 You can put some in a submission.

01:44:24.000 You win.

01:44:25.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:26.000 Colin Sanders says, peaceful divorce.

01:44:29.000 Because corrupt politicians drunk on power are well known for letting the peasants take the ball and go home.

01:44:33.000 Totally how it goes.

01:44:35.000 Oh yeah.

01:44:36.000 Billy Bob says, I would love to hear your views on the idea of corporations getting involved in a civil war, turning it into the first corporate wars like cyberpunk.

01:44:44.000 It's actually a really interesting idea.

01:44:45.000 I think you were saying that, right Ian?

01:44:46.000 Yeah.

01:44:47.000 That's terrifying.

01:44:48.000 Sounds like a Stephen King novel.

01:44:49.000 Well, maybe not a Stephen King, but like a good sci-fi novel.

01:44:53.000 All these unemployed people, now they're out of work.

01:44:55.000 And then if inflation, like Luke was saying, if it gets really, really, really bad, which it looks like it's on track to, the corporations have enough money to pay people to join them, to do whatever they get paid to do, which is like be part of our armed militia.

01:45:06.000 We need more land to produce more drones. 0.63

01:45:10.000 And then the government's going to be completely, as they are, impotent.

01:45:12.000 I mean, they'll be commanding the military, but then the military will be getting bribed by the corporations.

01:45:19.000 And these corporations already are selling arms to the US government.

01:45:22.000 Why wouldn't they just stop and start selling their weapons to Amazon instead?

01:45:27.000 We could write a novel.

01:45:28.000 That does sound like a Running Man story there in the making.

01:45:32.000 We should make some short films, man.

01:45:34.000 Yeah, is anybody out there a good film producer with like cool effects?

01:45:37.000 We'll build a green screen room and then we can do crazy, you know, we can like I don't know

01:45:42.000 I watched cowboy bebop the remake and it's basically just all green screen room stuff and I'm like it looks really

01:45:47.000 cool But what's wrong with their writers? Yeah, I

01:45:51.000 I guess they're remaking Yu Yu Hakusho now or something.

01:45:54.000 They're like, you know, kids watched Adult Swim and now they're older and they're gonna want to watch our new nostalgia shows.

01:45:59.000 It seemed like they were trying to make it a cartoon.

01:46:00.000 Did you guys see Sea Cowboy Bebop?

01:46:03.000 It looked like they were trying to make a cartoon a real show, which didn't translate.

01:46:06.000 Like I saw the Ed thing and her being all like an anime character. 1.00

01:46:09.000 She kind of did it right, but it didn't translate. 0.53

01:46:12.000 Someone commented the Cowboy Bebop Ed scene was like being at Comic-Con and seeing some dumb kid doing a cosplay in the middle of the hallway. 0.57

01:46:20.000 And I'm like, that sounds about right. 0.62

01:46:22.000 But I don't think the show was bad.

01:46:24.000 I liked it.

01:46:25.000 And I think Mustafa, who played Jet Black, Nailed it.

01:46:30.000 His voice, man.

01:46:31.000 He got the voice.

01:46:32.000 Perfect.

01:46:32.000 I was impressed.

01:46:33.000 And I like the show.

01:46:35.000 It's not the same show at all.

01:46:36.000 The problem is they tried to make a live-action show like a cartoon.

01:46:39.000 And I'm like, what are you doing?

01:46:40.000 Make it a live-action show.

01:46:41.000 It's got to be different.

01:46:42.000 But that's, uh, there you go.

01:46:43.000 Let's make some short films.

01:46:44.000 Make some sci-fi.

01:46:45.000 We do a lot of cool stuff on green screens now.

01:46:46.000 Talk to Sean Malone.

01:46:47.000 He's, he's, he's video guys.

01:46:49.000 He's great.

01:46:50.000 Well, we'll do, we'll make an entire room that's green.

01:46:53.000 The whole room.

01:46:54.000 With panels, you get like, and you stack panels modularly all over, like around you and kind of below.

01:46:59.000 I don't know if you stand on green or not.

01:47:00.000 You can, you don't need to.

01:47:01.000 The floor will be green.

01:47:02.000 And we'll do vaulted ceiling.

01:47:03.000 I don't know if that'll work, but we'll do good lights and everything, and then we'll put Ian in outer space.

01:47:07.000 Oh, finally!

01:47:08.000 I knew I was gonna get that one.

01:47:09.000 He's already there.

01:47:10.000 Hey, if I do end up standing in orbit, you guys wanna go with me?

01:47:14.000 Go to orbit?

01:47:14.000 Yeah.

01:47:15.000 Like, go in Jeff Bezos' wienership? 100%.

01:47:19.000 He knew what it looked like when he built it.

01:47:22.000 There's no way he was sending a message.

01:47:25.000 I mean, hey, have you guys seen a Silicon Valley?

01:47:29.000 I think their whole joke was against Bezos.

01:47:32.000 Like the guy runs a spoof company, Hooli.

01:47:35.000 He's like the villain. 0.99

01:47:36.000 And their logo is it's well, it's it's genitalia. 0.99

01:47:40.000 And I'm like, they're making a joke at Bezos. 0.94

01:47:42.000 Somebody went to Bezos and said, here's our proposal for the design. 0.99

01:47:45.000 And he went, that looks like a dick. 0.98

01:47:46.000 And they were like, it does. 1.00

01:47:47.000 And he goes, run with it.

01:47:50.000 Because he did, he had to approve it.

01:47:51.000 Of course.

01:47:52.000 Wouldn't it be funny if like he didn't and he had like some like lieutenants and he was like, guys, get it done.

01:47:56.000 Do it make sense?

01:47:57.000 He's like, you got it.

01:47:58.000 And then these guys were just like not paying attention when they were doing the plans.

01:48:01.000 And then finally Bezos looks at it and he's like, it's complete.

01:48:04.000 And they're like, there it is. 1.00

01:48:04.000 And he's like, it's a giant dick. 1.00

01:48:06.000 It sure is! 1.00

01:48:07.000 I'm looking at it now.

01:48:08.000 There's a lot of phallic logos out there.

01:48:10.000 Seeding the universe.

01:48:13.000 Oh man.

01:48:14.000 They're like, the ejection port is right up at the top.

01:48:16.000 It's right at the tip.

01:48:18.000 That's where you come out of the shuttle when it lands. 0.92

01:48:21.000 Amazon is going to screw you, literally. 1.00

01:48:24.000 Especially with the Washington Post and CIA and their encryption breaking technology and facial recognition technology that Amazon is also building.

01:48:31.000 But they sell us some great stuff.

01:48:32.000 It's only a matter of time until you get that.

01:48:36.000 Rock it.

01:48:37.000 Mike Peterson says, screw Luke.

01:48:39.000 No, Ian, I'm leaving. 1.00

01:48:40.000 Well, screw you too, buddy. 1.00

01:48:42.000 Everyone's going to be walking out because everyone else is puking. 0.99

01:48:46.000 No, Luke, we nuke sounds better than we puke because puke has a U sound in it, you know?

01:48:52.000 I don't care.

01:48:53.000 Smedley Butler III says, if fascism is the merger of big business and government, then it truly began in 1910 on Jekyll Island.

01:49:00.000 And 110 years later, the world still has no idea.

01:49:02.000 Good point.

01:49:03.000 When you were talking about the first, kind of the introduction of fascism being in the modern era, I was thinking of Woodrow Wilson.

01:49:08.000 A lot of people say he was like the most fascist American president of all time.

01:49:11.000 Worst president in U.S.

01:49:12.000 history.

01:49:12.000 And I didn't even think of the Federal Reserve while you were talking earlier, but that definitely, it seems like something they got their talents in.

01:49:18.000 And if you look, if you read, you know, if you read Marx, one of the things he says, get control of banking, get control of money.

01:49:26.000 And it's one of the many things that we unfortunately listen to Marx on.

01:49:31.000 All right.

01:49:33.000 Socratic Disciple says, Here's an idea, Tim.

01:49:35.000 If you want people to realize that you're not making it up, post your sources as links in the video descriptions.

01:49:39.000 That would be very helpful to the rest of us who want to share your arguments with our friends and family.

01:49:44.000 There was an issue with when you put links and descriptions, how YouTube negatively impacts the content.

01:49:49.000 And that's why what I do is I include the URL in every single video.

01:49:53.000 At the top you can see it and you can see the NewsGuard certification.

01:49:56.000 And that's why the screen on my main show is always mostly the news article so you can literally see it.

01:50:01.000 And it's very easy.

01:50:03.000 If you see the title of the article, type it in and you'll find the source.

01:50:07.000 It's not that difficult.

01:50:08.000 I'm not saying it to be difficult or condescending.

01:50:10.000 One of the issues, I guess, was that I was told, and I've experienced this, if you start loading up links, YouTube's view of that is the more you link off the platform, that you're taking away from them.

01:50:23.000 So I was like, okay, I'll include it visually in everything.

01:50:26.000 You can see the article, you can see it, you can see the certification.

01:50:29.000 The issue I'm referring to is that people who are just listening to Joe Rogan, and none of these sources are there, are just like, he must be making all of this up.

01:50:36.000 It's like, well, if you only watch CNN, you'd probably think that.

01:50:40.000 We got sources for all our stuff.

01:50:43.000 Alright, Austin Scott says, Psalm 3713.

01:50:47.000 Also I sent you guys a gift to your P.O.

01:50:49.000 box.

01:50:49.000 Did you get it?

01:50:50.000 We may have!

01:50:50.000 We have new shelves for all the mail we're getting because we're getting slammed by tons of mail.

01:50:54.000 It's crazy.

01:50:55.000 You guys are awesome.

01:50:55.000 Thanks so much for sending us all this stuff.

01:50:56.000 Lots of cool stuff.

01:50:57.000 I really appreciate it.

01:50:58.000 I debuted Officer Jack Boot Jackson on one of the vlogs opening some of your packages.

01:51:05.000 And it's always cool when you pick up people, whoever you like in the house, when you send them stuff.

01:51:10.000 It's really awesome and a very cool personalized experience that I love.

01:51:14.000 Kevin Pilgrim says, did you see Ennis Cantor is legally changing his name to Freedom Ennis Cantor?

01:51:19.000 Yeah.

01:51:19.000 I did see that.

01:51:20.000 That's awesome.

01:51:20.000 So Freedom is on his jersey.

01:51:21.000 Good for him.

01:51:22.000 Yep.

01:51:23.000 I tried to buy that jersey.

01:51:24.000 They don't have it up yet.

01:51:27.000 ReallyNow says, screw Dave and Rumble.

01:51:29.000 Sellouts.

01:51:30.000 Look, I'm wondering what you guys think about that, because obviously I ranted.

01:51:33.000 Do you think it's selling out what they did?

01:51:36.000 He kind of got a defined sellout.

01:51:38.000 Is it that they're trying to make money for themselves, or do you think they're trying to grow the business to fight for their freedom of speech?

01:51:45.000 The part of it that strikes me as a sellout is when Dave said, I'm going to make sure you never get banned, and then he sold that responsibility away.

01:51:53.000 That was the big sellout to me.

01:51:55.000 Not necessarily the worst part of it, by any means.

01:51:57.000 You could say it would do whatever you want in business.

01:52:00.000 But that is, yeah.

01:52:01.000 I mean, I feel like he led people astray.

01:52:03.000 It was very weird coming from him.

01:52:05.000 It very much felt to me like he saw that people were worried about getting censored and it was an opportunity to basically get all of these deals.

01:52:14.000 And then as soon as he had this pantheon, he sold it.

01:52:18.000 Don't know, Reuben.

01:52:18.000 I will say it sounds a little exploitive, right?

01:52:21.000 Like he saw an opportunity and maybe he was excited about the opportunity and it could work to his benefit.

01:52:27.000 And he wasn't looking much beyond that.

01:52:29.000 I mean, to be fair, that's just enterprise.

01:52:32.000 He saw a hole in the market.

01:52:34.000 He took advantage of the hole in the market.

01:52:35.000 He provided a service that people agreed to sign up for and wanted.

01:52:38.000 And then he got his exit.

01:52:41.000 I'm not saying he took a bunch of money out of it.

01:52:44.000 I don't think he got paid a whole lot for the acquisition.

01:52:46.000 But it is interesting that a month after the acquisition, they do a SPAC deal.

01:52:49.000 I have to believe that Dave knew about all that.

01:52:51.000 I can't imagine.

01:52:53.000 How long does it take to do a SPAC deal like this?

01:52:56.000 How many legal forms?

01:52:58.000 I wouldn't be surprised if the investment firm was talking with Rumble and they were like, guys, you just don't have it.

01:53:02.000 You're missing a core component.

01:53:04.000 You're missing what brings people in and you're missing a core element of monetization.

01:53:09.000 People.

01:53:10.000 They were missing the names.

01:53:12.000 They were missing Michael Malice.

01:53:14.000 Was Blair on there too?

01:53:14.000 Yes.

01:53:15.000 They needed the names.

01:53:15.000 That's why Spotify got Rogan.

01:53:17.000 That's why Minds wanted you.

01:53:18.000 That's why Rumble hired a bunch of people.

01:53:22.000 They got Siraj, they got Glenn Greenwald.

01:53:25.000 They basically contracted them to produce content, so I think you're right.

01:53:29.000 I also think, though, they're looking at monetization in the sense where it's like, how do you make money off this?

01:53:34.000 And so they go to Dave and they're like, look, this is just my opinion, if I was to speculate.

01:53:38.000 We want to do a SPAC deal.

01:53:40.000 These contracts probably took months to prepare.

01:53:43.000 There's no way they pulled it off in just a month.

01:53:45.000 I mean, I've been working on contracts for people.

01:53:48.000 Just to get a show produced takes two months to go through, you know, work out the deal.

01:53:52.000 So I can't imagine that they didn't know this was happening, which says to me the likelihood is they knew they were working the deal.

01:53:58.000 They needed a component of people subscribing and paying money to the creators they like, something they could add to the mix.

01:54:04.000 They are still separate websites.

01:54:05.000 Then they go to Dave and say, here's what's going to happen.

01:54:07.000 Dave must have known about it.

01:54:09.000 I'd see their 2.1 billion valuation, I think.

01:54:12.000 I want to see what it was before they acquired Locals.

01:54:14.000 Wow, they were private.

01:54:15.000 Yeah.

01:54:17.000 How much would they have been worth then?

01:54:19.000 I think your instincts sound about right.

01:54:22.000 This deal has probably been in the works for months.

01:54:25.000 And whether he knew, or maybe they just said, hey, look, we need people.

01:54:29.000 Maybe he knew about the deal, maybe he didn't.

01:54:32.000 It might not have.

01:54:32.000 Maybe I'll tell you.

01:54:33.000 I don't know how well you know him.

01:54:34.000 I'd ask him next time I see him.

01:54:36.000 Yeah.

01:54:37.000 It's possible, you know, the famous story with Bill Gates is that IBM needed an operating system.

01:54:42.000 So he said, I got one and I'll give it to you.

01:54:44.000 And I'm probably getting the story wrong, but the general idea was he was like, yeah, we definitely have an operating system for you.

01:54:50.000 That's great.

01:54:50.000 We want a dollar per machine.

01:54:52.000 And they're like, great.

01:54:53.000 He walks out of the meeting and he's like, OK, now we need an operating system.

01:54:56.000 He eventually finds a guy who created the DOS, which is, you know, operating system, and then buys it off him for $50,000, then goes to IBM and says, here it is.

01:55:06.000 And so, I mean, yeah, I don't think he did anything wrong.

01:55:09.000 It was his deal.

01:55:10.000 He had it.

01:55:10.000 This other guy didn't.

01:55:11.000 And he gave the guy $50,000 for the operating system he put together.

01:55:15.000 And then he went and sold it and made a lot more money off it from the deal.

01:55:19.000 So Dave may have had no idea.

01:55:21.000 They may have come to him and say, we want to acquire Rumble.

01:55:23.000 It'll be great.

01:55:23.000 We're going to have this video infrastructure to help you guys out, lower your costs.

01:55:27.000 It'll be better for everyone.

01:55:27.000 Dave probably like, sound good to me.

01:55:29.000 And then Dave may have found out about this the moment it happened.

01:55:32.000 Considering he's deeply involved or claims he's still involved, I really doubt it.

01:55:37.000 Oh yeah, because they paid him in stock.

01:55:38.000 You don't accidentally take stock.

01:55:40.000 You know that for sure?

01:55:41.000 That's what he said on his announcement video, Dave did.

01:55:43.000 He said, I received stock.

01:55:44.000 He knew.

01:55:45.000 Yeah.

01:55:45.000 Dave knew the whole time.

01:55:46.000 Of course.

01:55:46.000 That's why he took the stock, because they were about to go public.

01:55:48.000 No, uh, yep.

01:55:50.000 That's right.

01:55:51.000 Oh wow.

01:55:51.000 And I don't know that, but that's what it looks like.

01:55:53.000 They're going to get a bonus, depending on if the stock value reaches a certain number. $15.

01:55:59.000 If it reaches 15 bucks, they get more shares, right?

01:56:01.000 And if you look at what IPOs are doing, these SPAC IPOs are all exploding.

01:56:06.000 Maybe they're going to slow down, but yeah, they're doing very well.

01:56:09.000 And then about three days later, they taper off.

01:56:12.000 Yo, it is possible that Rumble becomes the next most amazing thing, frees their software code, federates with mines, and really does upend big tech.

01:56:20.000 That is possible.

01:56:21.000 I'm waiting for it.

01:56:22.000 Let's go.

01:56:25.000 So what does that mean?

01:56:26.000 What do you think it means, morally and ethically, if Rumble had been working on this deal for some time, went to Dave and said, we're about to do a SPAC deal, we're going to go public, We want to acquire, you know, locals.

01:56:44.000 We'll give you stock in exchange for this.

01:56:47.000 You know what really, really pisses me off about that, if that's the case?

01:56:51.000 Is that Dave, the value he brought here is literally just he convinced all of these people to sign up for a platform that is, in my opinion, It took us, I think, three days to make ours.

01:57:05.000 To be fair, for just one site.

01:57:08.000 It auto-populated content.

01:57:10.000 We could post articles.

01:57:11.000 We could post blogs and all that stuff.

01:57:13.000 It's very easy to do this WordPress stuff.

01:57:15.000 Granted, they probably did a little bit more work to have their own proprietary code and all that stuff.

01:57:18.000 But the real selling point to give Dave this stock was not the system they built.

01:57:24.000 It was the people he signed up for it.

01:57:26.000 And I wonder how much stock he got.

01:57:28.000 If he knew, when he was approached by Rumble, we're going public, I just feel like that was a definition of exploiting a crisis and manipulating people to, you know... You know what?

01:57:39.000 I gotta say, look, if you're a capitalist, you're an enterprise guy, you're probably fine with it, that's fine by me, whatever, I'm not about that.

01:57:46.000 Different, man.

01:57:47.000 I'm fully with you that be a capitalist and make your money and screw along the way if you need to, to get there.

01:57:54.000 But ethics, man.

01:57:55.000 And if you're going to talk about something, don't go and do the opposite.

01:57:59.000 That's crazy.

01:58:00.000 Yeah, ethically, I'm with you.

01:58:02.000 Like people I know, I kind of... And look, maybe he convinced himself.

01:58:07.000 And this is all speculation because I know less about the deal than you guys do.

01:58:12.000 Like, as you said, I didn't even know he got stock for it.

01:58:15.000 But people I know, if I'm going to try to convince them for my selfish motives, there's something kind of in conflict there.

01:58:23.000 Yeah, I believe in like the good, wholesome capitalism where someone invents a lightbulb and it lights up the world for everybody.

01:58:30.000 That person becomes rich because they made the world genuinely a better place.

01:58:33.000 You get people like Thomas Edison and they were like, that filament's lasting too long.

01:58:36.000 How are we supposed to sell these things?

01:58:38.000 Can somebody make a crappier filament that burns out so we can consistently sell these things? 0.99

01:58:42.000 What a dick. 0.99

01:58:43.000 Planned obsolescence. 1.00

01:58:44.000 That's right.

01:58:45.000 It's actually a term that's thrown around because it's so common.

01:58:49.000 Yeah, I love Dave.

01:58:49.000 I think he's done a lot of good.

01:58:50.000 And I think he really didn't realize his role in big tech in doing this.

01:58:53.000 him and have been an avid watcher of Dave's show.

01:58:55.000 Yeah, I love Dave.

01:58:57.000 I think he's done a lot of good, and I think he's been, I think he really didn't

01:59:00.000 realize his, his role in big tech in doing this.

01:59:04.000 I think he didn't realize that he was by making proprietary social networking

01:59:09.000 and selling to others that he was...

01:59:10.000 What bothers me is we are fighting tooth and nail every day against the establishment, the censorship machine, and what we need is resilience.

01:59:19.000 And the best thing I could have said was like, I understand that what Dave has created is a centralized system, and there's a risk of being shut down, but at the very least, at least it's private.

01:59:31.000 Can't say that anymore.

01:59:32.000 Now anyone can buy in.

01:59:34.000 And like you said, Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street, all three of those.

01:59:37.000 He literally sold out.

01:59:38.000 Literally.

01:59:40.000 So let's call it a spade a spade here.

01:59:42.000 The good thing is, how invested are you at this point?

01:59:45.000 I was thinking about buying Rumble stock.

01:59:47.000 I don't know if it's going to play like one of these meme stocks now.

01:59:51.000 People said, Tim, buy as much as you can then.

01:59:53.000 And I'm like, no.

01:59:54.000 I don't support it.

01:59:55.000 I mean, I don't hate anyone involved with it.

01:59:57.000 I just don't support big tech at the moment.

01:59:59.000 So I haven't invested yet.

02:00:00.000 We literally use Rumble infrastructure as a business client.

02:00:04.000 I guess I'm on YouTube right now, so I'm supporting YouTube.

02:00:06.000 They're great.

02:00:07.000 They offer a great service.

02:00:08.000 It's a way better price point than anyone else.

02:00:11.000 We use them.

02:00:12.000 They're good.

02:00:13.000 My issue is just like, Don't come to me and claim you're fighting for free speech if this is what's happening, you know.

02:00:20.000 All right, let's just read one more here.

02:00:22.000 Hunter Kott says, you talk about planned obsolescence as if these vaccines don't have planned obsolescence.

02:00:28.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:00:29.000 That's very, very different.

02:00:31.000 But I certainly think we're heading towards a subscription plan.

02:00:33.000 And the joke I made was use promo code FouchieOuchie to get $10 off, you know, blah, blah, blah.

02:00:39.000 Alright, here's another one.

02:00:40.000 Home B says, problem with the light bulb.

02:00:42.000 Light pollution.

02:00:43.000 Big cities lost touch to the universe when they lost the stars.

02:00:46.000 That's a great point.

02:00:47.000 Did you guys know that in the, I believe it was in the 90s, the local police stations in Los Angeles started getting inundated with phone calls about something strange in the sky?

02:00:47.000 I agree.

02:00:56.000 And what people were seeing was the Milky Way.

02:00:58.000 Power had gone out, and for the first time, people saw the Milky Way in the sky and were confused by it.

02:01:04.000 It's beautiful, though.

02:01:04.000 That's a cool anecdote.

02:01:05.000 I mean, I think we went... I think you were there with me.

02:01:09.000 We went to the desert in Las Vegas during DEFCON, and, like, when you see the stars up for what they truly are without any light pollution, it is...

02:01:19.000 I was going to say awe-stunning again.

02:01:20.000 A word you made up!

02:01:22.000 Yeah, I'm going to use it again.

02:01:24.000 It's awe-stunning and beautiful and definitely gives you a perspective on your existence that really does humble you comparatively to all the other superficial bullcrap around you.

02:01:34.000 It kind of underlines what you were saying earlier about if social media gets more entrenched in people that we might see a civil war.

02:01:40.000 And more self-destruction.

02:01:42.000 And it kept making me think, get away from the computer, go into the woods, experience nature, because maybe that is the solution to world peace.

02:01:50.000 No, humans need it, especially right now.

02:01:52.000 I remember the first time I saw the Milky Way in the Badlands with no light for miles and miles, and it was heaven.

02:02:00.000 You could reach out.

02:02:01.000 And all of us are addicted to our phones, right?

02:02:04.000 I know at least you two are on Twitter as much as me, and it's toxic.

02:02:10.000 But I'm on a computer when I'm tweeting.

02:02:12.000 But the first time you saw the Milky Way is kind of a crazy thing to say.

02:02:16.000 Yeah, I remember it.

02:02:17.000 Back in the day, people would be like, I remember the first time I saw it, I was a baby.

02:02:21.000 But today... Alright, anyway, my friends, go to TimCast.com, become members.

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02:03:24.000 Love to have you here, man.

02:03:25.000 Hey, guys, great to see you again.

02:03:26.000 Great to be here.

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02:03:27.000 Love you.

02:03:28.000 Hey, thank you guys very much for having me on.

02:03:30.000 I loved it.

02:03:31.000 Most epic.

02:03:31.000 Yeah, I am gonna go check out Luke's apocalypse training now.

02:03:35.000 That sounds awesome.

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02:04:00.000 I'm going to get these.

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02:04:04.000 They're the best flyers, the best advertisement for what's happening in Howard Springs.

02:04:08.000 Memes.

02:04:09.000 People will see this and they'll say, what is that?

02:04:11.000 And you will answer and you will tell them and they will be confused, but they're funny.

02:04:15.000 I got a question about this one.

02:04:16.000 Is the sun rising or setting in this picture?

02:04:19.000 It has to be rising.

02:04:20.000 I think it's rising.

02:04:21.000 You think it's rising?

02:04:21.000 Early morning.

02:04:22.000 Yeah, yeah, it's morning.

02:04:23.000 I thought it's sunset earlier.

02:04:25.000 I wonder what that means about... We also have a t-shirt version.

02:04:28.000 But you can get these posters and you can hang them up.

02:04:32.000 You can take the poster and you can put it, you know, on your walls.

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02:04:36.000 You too can act as if you are in Australia, not in a quarantine.

02:04:40.000 Put it in your window.

02:04:41.000 Put it in your window.

02:04:42.000 You got a storefront.

02:04:42.000 Put it in your storefront windows.

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