Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - DeSantis Plans Civilian Military As Tensions Rise Between States & Biden w-Kari Lake

00:00:00.000 Thanks for watching.

00:00:17.000 Rather scary, isn't it?

00:00:18.000 Until you read the story, and I think even Sarah Silverman tweeted this, like, please be, you know, fact, the truth matters, and everyone was surprised.

00:00:25.000 It would be the 23rd civilian military force.

00:00:28.000 They've existed in many, many states for a long time.

00:00:31.000 It's actually not all that crazy.

00:00:33.000 What is kind of worrying is that the tensions between the states and the Biden administration have gotten to the point where Ron DeSantis is like, yo, we can't rely on the National Guard or the Pentagon or Biden to come to our aid in the event of a hurricane or disaster or something like that.

00:00:45.000 So we'll make a civilian military force.

00:00:47.000 And of course, many of these individuals who are complaining about a Gestapo didn't realize that New York not only has lockdowns mandates, but they also have a civilian military force.

00:00:55.000 But we'll break all that down.

00:00:56.000 It's interesting.

00:00:57.000 We got some interesting news coming from UnHerd.

00:01:00.000 They interviewed a woman Who actually spent time in one of these internment camps in Australia.

00:01:04.000 And her story is actually quite freaky, saying they offered her drugs because of her anxiety.

00:01:08.000 They wouldn't let her go outside.

00:01:10.000 They threatened her with fines if she took one step off the porch of her building.

00:01:13.000 That doesn't sound like hot babe suntanning.

00:01:16.000 That's what I was told by Quillette.

00:01:18.000 And then we've got Jussie Smollett's lawyer apparently claiming the judge lunged at her and they want a mistrial, but... 0.98

00:01:23.000 We're gonna get in all these stories, and probably a whole lot more, because we're being joined by Carrie Lake, who is, you have this viral video where I guess you resigned from mainstream media, we'll call it, corporate press.

00:01:35.000 Now you're running for governor of Arizona, and you've got a lot of opinions about a lot of things, and I think we'll just play into it.

00:01:40.000 It's a Friday night, we'll chill, and we'll go through all of that.

00:01:41.000 Awesome, happy to be here.

00:01:42.000 Yeah, you wanna introduce yourself real quick?

00:01:43.000 I'm the candidate for governor, and Trump endorsed in Arizona,

00:01:47.000 and I spent 27 years covering Arizona as a journalist and the mainstream media, and had a great career.

00:01:54.000 I was number one at 20, for 22 years, I worked for the Fox station.

00:01:59.000 And Arizona's a unique market, because you reach 85% of the state.

00:02:03.000 So the name recognition is really intense when you work in a market like that.

00:02:07.000 And for 22 years, we were number one.

00:02:09.000 And at the height of my career, making good money, working at a solid station,

00:02:14.000 I just realized that the propaganda that the corporate media is pushing

00:02:18.000 is not something that I can do.

00:02:20.000 And it ceased being just biased and unethical, and I think during COVID it moved into the realm of being immoral.

00:02:28.000 And being a Christian woman, I just thought, I can't do this anymore.

00:02:31.000 I can't read.

00:02:32.000 I was feeling sick reading the news.

00:02:34.000 And I always felt that everything I put out was truthful, and it started to feel where kind of the walls were closing in, and I couldn't get the truth out as I wanted to.

00:02:43.000 It was half-truth.

00:02:43.000 So I walked away.

00:02:44.000 I can tell you the confirmation bias of all of our viewers is lighting up.

00:02:47.000 They're all really excited.

00:02:48.000 Oh, good.

00:02:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:49.000 I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

00:02:50.000 But we'll get into all that stuff for sure.

00:02:52.000 We got Luke chillin'.

00:02:53.000 I like to say satanic, but that's just me personally, myself.

00:02:56.000 There's a lot of exciting things happening in Florida, and hell, I mean, I soon might join the gator-eating Florida man state guard, especially if Tim starts selling more shorts. 0.61

00:03:06.000 That's why today I am wearing my own official shirt, which you could support me if you get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.

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00:03:17.000 No, it doesn't.

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00:03:26.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:27.000 Yo, Ian Crosland here.

00:03:28.000 What's up, everybody?

00:03:30.000 Happy to be here.

00:03:30.000 Good to see you, Carrie.

00:03:31.000 Hi.

00:03:32.000 Looking forward to talking and learning a little bit tonight.

00:03:34.000 I have a couple different things to say.

00:03:36.000 Tonight is our 420th episode.

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00:03:43.000 It's not how it worked out.

00:03:44.000 I'll try to do my best.

00:03:44.000 But we're going to have super fun on this episode.

00:03:46.000 And I just wanted to say, I did see a comment from somebody who said they grew up watching you.

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00:03:51.000 I get that a lot, a lot, yeah.

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00:05:17.000 Let's talk about what's going on in Florida. We got the story from CNN.com

00:05:20.000 The Santas proposes a new civilian military force in Florida that he would control

00:05:26.000 I love how they frame it that way, as if it's like, ooh, he would be in charge.

00:05:29.000 I mean, yeah, he's the governor, right?

00:05:31.000 But they also mention that if Florida goes ahead with this plan to re-establish a civilian force, which existed before, it would be the 23rd active state guard in the country.

00:05:41.000 DeSantis's office said in a press release joining California, Texas, and New York,

00:05:44.000 these guards are little-known auxiliary forces. So all of a sudden, all over Twitter,

00:05:49.000 they're claiming he's forming the Gestapo and the Republicans are Nazis. And when I saw this tweet

00:05:55.000 from Sarah Silverman, where she was like, please read the article, The Truth Matters, I was like,

00:05:58.000 whoa, something's... Deborah Messing came out about the Waukesha attack and said it was a

00:06:04.000 massacre, call it what it is. Yeah, that was surprising, wasn't it?

00:06:07.000 Right. But now Sarah Silverman being like, The Truth Matters, I'm like, wow,

00:06:12.000 something's happening. I think the Holly weirdos are waking up.

00:06:14.000 Holly weirdos? They're waking up, which is good. They need to.

00:06:18.000 You were telling us, I guess, if you were to become, when you are to become governor of Arizona.

00:06:24.000 Thank you.

00:06:24.000 That's right.

00:06:25.000 You were going to do the same thing?

00:06:27.000 Yeah, we've talked about this already.

00:06:28.000 We have the Arizona Rangers and we would bring them back.

00:06:32.000 I mean, right now they're kind of a force that helps out volunteer great men and women, but we would bring them back as a force.

00:06:37.000 We really need our own border protection there because the Border Patrol is not able to do their job right now.

00:06:43.000 We have a border crisis happening.

00:06:44.000 I'm sure you're aware of it.

00:06:45.000 I know you're thousands of miles from the Arizona border.

00:06:48.000 We have had many journalists and witnesses on the show talking about the crisis.

00:06:52.000 And I think Florida is also sending its police forces down to the border to help Texas enforce its border laws as well.

00:06:59.000 And DeSantis had a very interesting comment about this announcement because he said one of the benefits of this guard would that it would be quote not encumbered by the federal government.

00:07:09.000 That's his exact quote here.

00:07:11.000 That's why I'm like, hey, maybe, you know, maybe I could give it a give this a try.

00:07:15.000 He's going to start off with 200 volunteers.

00:07:17.000 He wants a budget of 3.5 million to start up this guard.

00:07:20.000 But when we're at a situation where soon the Oklahoma National Guard might soon become the Oklahoma state militia because of federal policies, this doesn't seem like an absurd policy.

00:07:32.000 This seems like a policy that is inevitable, in my opinion, especially with how hyper politicized everything's becoming from my perspective.

00:07:40.000 Well, even if you take the politics out of it, we have a crisis at the border.

00:07:43.000 We have people streaming across.

00:07:44.000 We have drugs coming across and coming into our communities.

00:07:47.000 And they're not just staying in Arizona.

00:07:49.000 It's kind of like the slogan in Vegas, what happens in Vegas doesn't stay in Vegas.

00:07:53.000 Is that what it is?

00:07:54.000 What happens in Arizona doesn't stay in Arizona when it comes to our border.

00:08:00.000 It really does spread across the country.

00:08:02.000 So it's important for the whole country.

00:08:03.000 But we need to work with, and if I were governor right now, unfortunately I won't be governor until January of 23, Tim.

00:08:09.000 But this problem can't go on until then.

00:08:11.000 We're not going to have a country.

00:08:13.000 And so we need to do something now, and our current governor needs to work with some of the friendly red states and say, hey, can we borrow some of your law enforcement, bring them down, help us protect the border, and let's start building the wall right now. 0.91

00:08:24.000 What is Joe Biden going to do?

00:08:26.000 Come down and arrest us?

00:08:27.000 I was watching a clip from CNN that was on Reddit, and it was a panel with a bunch of Trump supporters, I guess.

00:08:34.000 And it was making fun of them, because this little old lady said 3 million illegal immigrants voted in the election. 1.00

00:08:41.000 And it was Dan, I can't remember who, I think, it wasn't Dan Abash.

00:08:43.000 I can't remember who was interviewing him, but a CNN woman.

00:08:46.000 She goes, you really believe 3 million illegal immigrants voting?

00:08:50.000 And she's like, yes, you know, the president encouraged him to vote, blah, blah, blah.

00:08:54.000 And here are these two groups of people saying things and CNN, she's like, I looked it up.

00:08:58.000 It's fake news.

00:08:59.000 You know, whatever.

00:09:00.000 It didn't happen.

00:09:01.000 I get it.

00:09:02.000 And I'm sitting there like they're both missing the mark.

00:09:04.000 The fact of the matter is every single illegal immigrant in this country adds voting power 1.00

00:09:10.000 and does impact the presidential election.

00:09:12.000 Quite simply, when we vote for the president, we are not voting as individuals in a popular vote.

00:09:18.000 We are having our states do an electoral vote.

00:09:20.000 Electoral votes are based on congressional districts.

00:09:23.000 Congressional districts are apportioned based on the total population, not total citizen population.

00:09:27.000 That means If Arizona sees a massive influx of non-citizens into dense urban areas, when they do the census, the dense urban areas get extra congressional seats based on non-citizens, which adds equivalent voting power in presidential elections.

00:09:43.000 So I believe there were some estimates that California in the past got one extra electoral vote because of their illegal immigrant population.

00:09:50.000 So no.

00:09:51.000 I don't believe illegal immigrants are showing up en masse by the millions to vote in the elections and no one's catching it, but I do think it's fairly obvious. 1.00

00:09:58.000 Whether you want to argue that or not, the point is, outside of it, we know that if they do the census and there's no citizenship question, then you are going to get congressional seats that are being allocated specifically to non-citizens.

00:10:11.000 So yeah, they're effectively getting their voting power in.

00:10:13.000 And President Trump wanted that question to be asked.

00:10:15.000 Are you a citizen?

00:10:16.000 And the courts ruled against him on that.

00:10:19.000 So, I mean, we had people voting who shouldn't have voted, I believe, in Arizona.

00:10:25.000 And we had the forensic audit.

00:10:28.000 To me, the biggest problem, it was multi-layered what happened there.

00:10:31.000 You know, you just look at the mail-in ballots that didn't have a signature or had a little scribble.

00:10:36.000 They weren't checking.

00:10:37.000 They weren't verifying it.

00:10:38.000 Yeah, they weren't verifying it.

00:10:39.000 And when you look at the number of questionable ballots out there, Compared to what the margin of the victory was, there are way too many questionable ballots to say that one person won and one didn't.

00:10:52.000 This is what we actually heard from Matt Brainerd.

00:10:53.000 We've had him on the show several times.

00:10:54.000 And he's never come out and, at least to us, made a definitive and hard statement.

00:11:00.000 He's always said there are questions based on, you know, how many votes.

00:11:06.000 I don't know how to phrase it properly because I don't want to put words in his mouth.

00:11:08.000 I'm trying to be very careful for his sake.

00:11:09.000 But he was basically saying, we can't know.

00:11:12.000 These things need to be looked into and investigated because these right here are red flags.

00:11:16.000 Well, if one person won, and I'm trying to be very careful because I know YouTube has a bunch of issues.

00:11:20.000 If one person won by 10,457 votes and you have hundreds of thousands or even 100,000 or 200,000 questionable ballots that could have been problematic, and I'm being careful with my words here, Then you're looking at, wow, 200, 300,000 problematic votes and the margin of victory was just over 10,000.

00:11:42.000 So.

00:11:43.000 Issues, issues.

00:11:44.000 How do you resolve something like that?

00:11:46.000 Like, are the courts in Arizona going to go and investigate this?

00:11:50.000 I know there was a big audit.

00:11:51.000 I am for expanding the forensic audit to all 15 counties because even counties, and here's the deal, Trump Supporters would never want Trump to win in a questionable way.

00:12:06.000 I want my guy to win, of course, but I don't want him to win at the risk of throwing our elections into tumult.

00:12:14.000 And I want secure elections that we can have faith in.

00:12:16.000 And that's what I plan to do as governor.

00:12:19.000 I think that's one of the reasons I got President Trump's endorsement.

00:12:22.000 He knows that we're not going to sweep 2020 under the rug.

00:12:25.000 We're going to take a look at it.

00:12:26.000 We have this forensic audit that was done really well, despite what the fake media and the corrupt media is reporting.

00:12:32.000 And we're going to take everything that we found from there and we're going to fix it.

00:12:35.000 I'm a mom, so I do lists and I check them off and to-do lists.

00:12:39.000 And it might not happen before the 2020 because I don't think we have enough strong leaders in office who are going to say, you know what?

00:12:46.000 I don't care what they say about me.

00:12:47.000 We're doing this for our country to keep our republic together.

00:12:50.000 We're doing it for Arizona.

00:12:52.000 I'll tell you, I think Republicans need to be working on ground game and looking at the laws that were changed, looking at the policies across the country.

00:13:01.000 And a lot were changed in Arizona leading up to the election.

00:13:05.000 A lot of laws were changed by people who had no right to change in the legislature.

00:13:10.000 I think we saw that in Georgia.

00:13:11.000 right to change election laws and all of these people, Adrian Fontes and all of these local

00:13:16.000 people usurped the legislature to change election laws.

00:13:20.000 That's illegal.

00:13:21.000 I think we saw that in Georgia.

00:13:22.000 I think we, in Pennsylvania was interesting because I want to be careful not, you know,

00:13:27.000 So for people who aren't familiar, we'll give you, I'll give you the context.

00:13:29.000 But, you know, Pennsylvania, a year before the election, I think it was October, the Republican legislature voted for universal mail-in ballots.

00:13:37.000 And initially they were going to call it, I think, I think they were going to say universal absentee or something.

00:13:43.000 And then they realized it was unconstitutional because the Pennsylvania constitution specifically says you can't do this.

00:13:48.000 So they stopped Pulled it back halfway, and then changed some wording and pushed it through.

00:13:53.000 And a lower court judge actually said, hey, that looks like it's not constitutional.

00:13:57.000 When it went to the higher court in Pennsylvania, they said, you're too late, have a nice day.

00:14:01.000 Didn't even rule on it.

00:14:02.000 So I think the big play for Republicans coming into 2022, there's two big things I think people need to do.

00:14:08.000 Looking into everything you've said, for one, I definitely think matters, but in order to get to the point where you can get that investigation and make sure you're getting legitimate information, getting a legitimate investigation, not that I'm not saying the forensic audit didn't happen, I'm saying the power to actually look through these things, enact things, primaries.

00:14:25.000 Make sure the establishment Republicans, if you're voting Republican, aren't the ones who are going to get back in and then just jam everything up voting locally.

00:14:33.000 So people who are in Arizona need to be thinking about their state senators, their state representatives, their governor.

00:14:38.000 School board.

00:14:39.000 School board, for sure.

00:14:40.000 Because you look at a lot of what happened when it comes to the presidential election, and I tell people this.

00:14:46.000 It was Time magazine, I think, right?

00:14:48.000 The shadow campaign to fortify the election.

00:14:50.000 There's an article they wrote.

00:14:52.000 That lays it out.

00:14:53.000 They talk about changing laws, they talk about changing rules, they talk about ground game, they talk about activists going out, and I'm like, that all right there is laid out for you.

00:15:01.000 If you want to address those things, you need local politicians, you need state-level politicians, you need to win your legislature, you need to win your governorship, and you need to win even your council, your school board especially.

00:15:13.000 But a lot of people are just looking at Congress, thinking that if I vote for my rep in Congress, it's going to affect these things.

00:15:19.000 That ain't it.

00:15:20.000 It's from the ground up, basically.

00:15:22.000 And we're seeing it huge in Arizona right now with school boards.

00:15:26.000 And I'm going to admit, I thought I was a really informed voter for years.

00:15:30.000 I've always voted since I was 18 years old.

00:15:34.000 But I never paid enough attention to school boards.

00:15:37.000 And we have a situation in Scottsdale where we have a 27-year-old guy, unmarried, no children, living with his parents, who's on the school board, making a lot of decisions about our children.

00:15:47.000 And it was just revealed in the last month or so that he, a computer at his home, was keeping a dossier on 40-plus, nearly 50 parents who had the, you know, audacity to step up at school board meetings and say, hey, wait a minute, what's being taught to our kids now?

00:16:04.000 You know, 2020 woke up a lot of parents when they walked past the Zoom camera and heard what was being taught to their kids and they went, What the heck is going on here?

00:16:12.000 And so they start asking questions and this guy, who's the president of the school board, again 27, no kids in the school district, starts keeping a file on them.

00:16:21.000 But I mean, what was he doing?

00:16:23.000 Was he like stalking, pulling up background information?

00:16:25.000 He's saying his dad did it, but it was on the computer at his home.

00:16:27.000 Pulling up all of the people who spoke out, the moms, pulling up very detailed information about the family.

00:16:33.000 So it would be, if you spoke out and you had a divorce in your family, the divorce decree.

00:16:36.000 Now this took somebody to go down to the courts pull a thousand page divorce decree, a lot of 0.98

00:16:42.000 private information.

00:16:43.000 This is one of my friends whose divorce decree was pulled up. Information that even their

00:16:46.000 children didn't know because you know when you have little ones sometimes you

00:16:49.000 don't want them knowing all of the nitty-gritty details of what led. And

00:16:53.000 what was he going to use this for?

00:16:54.000 A single mom who was a nurse, her information was pulled up, her nursing

00:17:00.000 license number and then there was a new complaint against her nursing license 0.63

00:17:03.000 and I hope to God it didn't come from this guy.

00:17:05.000 Here she is trying to make a living, put food on the table for her little one, and someone is really cyber-stalking and bullying her.

00:17:13.000 It had photographs of little girls, 8, 10, 13 year old.

00:17:18.000 They were children of the parents who spoke out.

00:17:22.000 PIs were hired to follow some of the parents and get license plate numbers.

00:17:27.000 One woman said all of her assets were listed.

00:17:30.000 One mom said... For the school board?

00:17:33.000 Yeah, so he's collecting a dossier to go out.

00:17:36.000 Who knows what he's going to do with it?

00:17:37.000 To go after these people?

00:17:38.000 To sue them?

00:17:39.000 We don't know.

00:17:39.000 But when they discovered it accidentally, they were shocked.

00:17:43.000 Imagine going in here and going, whoa, my divorce decree?

00:17:46.000 What the heck?

00:17:46.000 My bank?

00:17:47.000 My children's pictures?

00:17:48.000 So it's really scary.

00:17:49.000 One woman said they had created a meme, I guess you call it.

00:17:53.000 I'm going to sound really old if it's not a meme.

00:17:55.000 She said, meant to make her look racist. 0.81

00:17:58.000 It was a picture of her, this mother, and he shared it with all the school teachers at the school.

00:18:05.000 It was a picture of her next to a slave hanging from a tree.

00:18:09.000 This is a mother who was trying to paint her as racist. 0.89

00:18:13.000 She'd done nothing wrong except ask about her kid's curriculum.

00:18:18.000 I get angry and emotional when I think about it because it is our right as parents to question that and not be doxxed, harassed, have PIs come after us and have a dossier collected.

00:18:30.000 How is it that a guy with no kids is on the school board?

00:18:33.000 Well, here's why, and thank you for bringing me back to the story.

00:18:37.000 I got triggered there.

00:18:39.000 He ran unopposed.

00:18:40.000 Nobody was running.

00:18:41.000 And this is what I'm getting to.

00:18:43.000 We think we're all involved, and we know I'm not going to run for Congress.

00:18:46.000 I've researched everybody.

00:18:47.000 These are the people I want.

00:18:48.000 But we have to go down the ballot.

00:18:50.000 School board is the most important race.

00:18:53.000 Because these are the people affecting what our kids are learning, and now we're seeing what years and years and decades of bad curriculum have done.

00:19:00.000 We're seeing it churned out in our schools, and this anti-American studies.

00:19:06.000 The American history is now anti-American history, and it's pretty scary.

00:19:10.000 So which generation is at fault? 0.82

00:19:11.000 Was it the boomers who were not teaching kids proper values, which resulted in teachers? 0.99

00:19:16.000 So I'll put it this way.

00:19:18.000 You've got teachers.

00:19:19.000 Like this guy, he's 27, right?

00:19:21.000 So he's an older millennial.

00:19:23.000 And they have these wacky views.

00:19:24.000 Many of them are communists.

00:19:25.000 Many of them hate America. 0.98

00:19:26.000 Many of them are overtly racist or identitarian. 0.81

00:19:29.000 So they're being taught by boomers. 0.99

00:19:32.000 How did this ideology become so prevalent among the millennial generation to the point where now in schools, teachers are believing this insanity?

00:19:43.000 I mean, I grew up in the 70s and 80s.

00:19:44.000 My dad was a public school teacher, taught history, government, he was a football coach.

00:19:48.000 He would be horrified.

00:19:51.000 I mean, I'm glad he's not with us today because he would be so horrified by what's being taught.

00:19:55.000 I don't know where it started to seep in.

00:19:57.000 I really don't.

00:19:58.000 But I think it, I mean, I know that a lot of people probably your age, I mean, what were you taught, Tim?

00:20:03.000 How was history portrayed to you?

00:20:06.000 It's funny because I always see these things on Twitter where these woke millennials are like, they don't actually teach people in school about slavery, Jim Crow, and the Trail of Tears.

00:20:16.000 And I'm like, I was taught all of that.

00:20:18.000 I don't understand.

00:20:21.000 But were you taught it where you continued along beyond that?

00:20:25.000 I mean, obviously those are really deep scars and very difficult moments in our history.

00:20:30.000 But as history continued to be taught and the years moved on and you're moving through what happened in our history, was it always that the European settlers are always the oppressor or people who are white are the oppressor?

00:20:45.000 Never.

00:20:45.000 And it was interesting, though, because it was very Eurocentric history, of course.

00:20:49.000 I mean, we're a nation that has founding in European colonization.

00:20:53.000 But I remember being taught about Christopher Columbus when I was a little kid.

00:20:57.000 I tell the story, how he discovers America.

00:20:59.000 And my mom was like, Leif Erikson was here first.

00:21:02.000 Norwegian, right?

00:21:04.000 Yeah.

00:21:04.000 Are you Norwegian?

00:21:05.000 No.

00:21:05.000 Okay.

00:21:06.000 My dad's Norwegian.

00:21:07.000 He's like, Leif Erikson, not Christopher Columbus.

00:21:10.000 But hold on.

00:21:11.000 And then my mom was like, there were already people here.

00:21:14.000 Like the Native Americans, crossing the Bering Strait. 1.00

00:21:17.000 So who discovered it?

00:21:18.000 To say it's discovered is to be from a perspective of Europe. 0.99

00:21:21.000 Now, the interesting thing is, that perspective I get from my mom, she never said, and that's why white people are evil. 0.74

00:21:26.000 No, she was like, well, the European historical perspective is how they came to discover America.

00:21:31.000 But there were other people here.

00:21:32.000 They have their histories.

00:21:33.000 And it was just like, ah, interesting.

00:21:34.000 It's very, you know, pragmatic and more objective.

00:21:37.000 But what you're getting from the woke millennial generation and these teachers is, and because they came here and it was conquest, these people are all evil.

00:21:45.000 Colonization is evil. 0.99

00:21:46.000 It's white supremacy. 0.89

00:21:48.000 And where does it end?

00:21:50.000 I mean, we keep teaching this.

00:21:51.000 What is the goal of that?

00:21:53.000 I think it's the... Division?

00:21:55.000 I view it like fire.

00:21:57.000 It's consuming, it's destroying, and it has no real directional end.

00:22:02.000 You know, if you look at traditional American values, it was moving in a direction towards something.

00:22:09.000 Civil rights emerged, you ended up with...

00:22:13.000 I mean, civil rights is really a great example of this.

00:22:15.000 Innocent until proven guilty.

00:22:17.000 This is something that's rooted very much in the Bible.

00:22:19.000 And I know a lot of atheists and a lot of leftists don't want to recognize that that's where it came.

00:22:25.000 It really did in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot.

00:22:28.000 So you actually had, over a long period of time, the bad things that came with these traditions being removed as people don't tolerate the violence anymore.

00:22:35.000 A good example is how dueling eventually stopped happening.

00:22:38.000 Because the younger generation, there was one young generation that said, hey, you guys just killed each other over a fight. 0.99

00:22:44.000 That's dumb. 0.98

00:22:45.000 And so they stopped doing it. 0.99

00:22:47.000 Then you end up, we end up as a country that starts with slavery, but within 80 or so years, we're like, we're going to fight a bloody death to make sure we end this.

00:22:55.000 Then you get civil rights.

00:22:57.000 We were actually doing a really great job, but a lot of it was rooted in a Christian moral framework.

00:23:02.000 Whether people like it or don't, that's literally the framework that was set upon.

00:23:06.000 The Judeo-Christian tradition.

00:23:08.000 But now we have with Wokeness something completely separate from that moral framework. 0.98

00:23:14.000 And they don't believe in innocent until proven guilty at all.

00:23:17.000 I mean, we just had a story of a Black Lives Matter activist, his name is Cortez Rice, showing up at the judge's house Apartment in the Dante Wright case he since he subsequently been arrested.

00:23:28.000 I don't know $50,000 bail he went to the home It was reported or at least he was trying to I don't know exactly where the judge lives But he was filming himself do it They do not believe in the values that you know have been established here in the United States so what I see is that kind of behavior is Very much in line with what we saw with the communists, but also the fascists.

00:23:49.000 And it was David Graeber, the late David Graeber, who said that a sect of the left has embraced the fascistic ideology, there is no truth but power.

00:23:59.000 And so now what we're seeing is...

00:24:01.000 When I often talk about how there's two different realities in the United States, and that's why left and right seem to be meaningless.

00:24:07.000 Like, you know, economically, I'm actually rather left.

00:24:09.000 I think universal basic health care, things like these, very nuanced.

00:24:13.000 We have to get into an argument about them.

00:24:15.000 But however, I find myself hanging out with independents, libertarians, conservatives, and disaffected liberals.

00:24:21.000 Because I think what separates us from the rival, I guess what you would call the left, is our moral framework tends to be rooted very much in Judeo-Christian values, even though we aren't theistic.

00:24:33.000 I'm not a religious person, but Bill Maher is a good example.

00:24:37.000 His values, free speech, innocent until proven guilty, these classically or traditionally liberal values, are rooted in Judeo-Christian moral frameworks.

00:24:46.000 That doesn't mean you have to agree with the Bible or the Torah.

00:24:49.000 But if we tear that apart, then we don't have a country, and then we have chaos.

00:24:53.000 But you can be Democrat, you can be Libertarian, you can be Conservative, you can be Republican, whatever.

00:24:59.000 But we all have to agree that the freedom of speech Innocent until proven guilty.

00:25:04.000 That the system we have, which the U.S.

00:25:06.000 Constitution is the greatest system out there.

00:25:09.000 I mean, there's nothing better.

00:25:10.000 And if we can agree on that, but what's happening now is you have people who are on the left, and I worked in media for 30 years, 27 in Arizona.

00:25:19.000 I know journalists who are for censorship.

00:25:22.000 That is shocking to me.

00:25:23.000 This is the craziest thing to me.

00:25:26.000 It's like the First Amendment, freedom of speech.

00:25:28.000 Nope, they're for censorship.

00:25:29.000 There's a group called Free Press.

00:25:32.000 And I knew several people from Free Press.

00:25:35.000 And I remember when they banned Alex Jones, FreePress.net was advocating, before he got banned, they were advocating for his censorship.

00:25:43.000 And I said, I was like, what's the name of your organization again?

00:25:46.000 Free Press.

00:25:46.000 And I was like, and what is this campaign?

00:25:48.000 We're trying to get a media organization banned.

00:25:52.000 I've had the local paper, a journalist, and I'm using that, he's an activist, write articles about me and suggest that I have my Twitter page taken down.

00:26:04.000 I can't remember what it was.

00:26:05.000 Was it over the, something like talking about ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and suggest that I have my, that I be completely banned from social media.

00:26:14.000 And this is a journalist.

00:26:17.000 To me, that's shocking.

00:26:18.000 I mean, we're talking about going on here, the things you can say, the things you can't say.

00:26:22.000 We're in an era right now where censorship is happening.

00:26:24.000 We have to live under it, unfortunately.

00:26:26.000 I want to ban censorship in Arizona when I'm governor.

00:26:29.000 Oh, that's clever.

00:26:30.000 And there will be hell to pay if a company tries to keep you from having free speech.

00:26:35.000 I mean, free speech is absolutely essential.

00:26:38.000 If you look at progression of humanity, it happens under freedom.

00:26:41.000 And I think America represents that freedom.

00:26:44.000 Obviously, it doesn't have a perfect record.

00:26:46.000 Obviously, the military industrial complex has caused a lot of global harm, I would argue.

00:26:51.000 Speaking representatively, America stands for freedom, and to me, you have to destroy this larger experiment, this larger idea, because when you do, you get rid of something that is extremely rare in human history.

00:27:05.000 If you'll get human history, this ability to be able to defend yourself, this ability to be able to say whatever you want.

00:27:11.000 is extremely rare, and if they destroy the founding of this country that was based on those principles and those ideas, they could destroy that freedom that also comes with it, and I think they have been successful in many ways already doing it without many people even realizing.

00:27:26.000 Well, let's think about it.

00:27:26.000 Freedom of religion.

00:27:27.000 We had our churches shut down.

00:27:28.000 Did you ever think... I mean, I'm probably the oldest one here, I'm assuming.

00:27:31.000 Walmart was open, but you couldn't go to church.

00:27:32.000 Yeah.

00:27:33.000 I mean, I never thought a day would come when churches were shut down in this country.

00:27:36.000 Whether you go to church or not, isn't that something that is a main tenet of this country?

00:27:41.000 The first amendment.

00:27:42.000 The very first freedom.

00:27:43.000 I think about what things could get changed if we were to lose the government in some crazy... Things like murdering might now become... Things we think of as just inherently illegal and wrong, without question, could then become totally normal, normalized in a new regime.

00:27:59.000 In Portland, when Aaron Danielson was shot in the chest, the leftists cheered.

00:28:04.000 And you saw what happened at Chaz.

00:28:06.000 People got killed at Chaz.

00:28:07.000 One of my staffers lived in Chaz.

00:28:09.000 He was embedded in Chaz. 0.89

00:28:10.000 And the way we protect children in this society.

00:28:12.000 He's not for that.

00:28:13.000 He was in as an outsider going in there to check it out.

00:28:16.000 I'd like to say to people who've never met Luke, I'll be like, Luke's been to Epstein Island.

00:28:20.000 And then they go like, whoa, whoa.

00:28:22.000 It's not good at parties.

00:28:23.000 People are like, what?

00:28:24.000 And then people start looking at me like I'm some kind of creeper.

00:28:26.000 Were you the guy that went there after it was closed down and got the video?

00:28:29.000 I went there when I saw... Why didn't you tell me that when I met Luke?

00:28:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:33.000 Because if I walked up to you and said, this guy's been to Epstein Island, you'd be like, what?

00:28:37.000 And it happens all the time.

00:28:38.000 Was that the time that Jeffrey Epstein was there and he drove up in the little golf cart?

00:28:42.000 Well, there was a drone footage of allegedly someone that looked like Epstein in the golf cart.

00:28:47.000 And when I saw that, after he allegedly, you know, offed himself, I was like, I need to go there.

00:28:52.000 I need to fact find this.

00:28:53.000 I need to verify this.

00:28:54.000 So that's when me and my friends went to the island, crashed it, and tried to get as much publicity about this event as much as possible because no one was talking about it in the corporate media, but all online.

00:29:06.000 All online there's this hashtag, Epstein didn't kill himself, there was people asking questions, there's people making memes, they were making songs, they were making t-shirts, they were demanding to know what was going on here and that voice wasn't heard other than of course independent media and as independent media I decided we need to do this, we need to step things up.

00:29:23.000 You guys are the new mainstream media and I mean that in a good way.

00:29:27.000 The mainstream media now is the alternative independent media and that's taking over, thank God.

00:29:32.000 Let me ask you about this.

00:29:34.000 You worked for 22 years in your mainstream media, I guess?

00:29:37.000 30 years mainstream media.

00:29:38.000 27 years covering Arizona as a journalist and an anchor, and 22 of those years, my last 22, for the Fox affiliate.

00:29:41.000 years. Right. A 27 years covering Arizona as a journalist and an anchor and 22 of

00:29:47.000 those years my last 22 for the Fox affiliate. When did it go wrong? In I

00:29:54.000 think the media really you know there were always places you could work that

00:29:58.000 I mean, obviously CNN, crazy.

00:30:01.000 But, you know, you could also say Fox is more reasonable if you're conservative, and at least they, I believe it was a great place to work.

00:30:08.000 But I think when President Trump came on the scene, Candidate Trump in 2015, when he came down the escalator, that's when I noticed people in media, and I'm talking all of the networks, starting to really lose it.

00:30:20.000 Even people that I thought were really reasonable, I'm like, why are you so upset about this guy?

00:30:24.000 He has a right to run.

00:30:25.000 He meets the qualifications to run.

00:30:28.000 Who cares if he runs?

00:30:29.000 But it was a complete, as I like to say, he cracked the shells off the nuts.

00:30:35.000 Do you think that it was that they didn't like Trump or that they wanted Hillary to win so bad that they didn't like whoever was coming and it just turned out to be Donald Trump and then they turned him into a boogeyman?

00:30:44.000 I don't know.

00:30:45.000 I wonder if they had a deep fear that, oh my gosh, this guy could win and our lady won't win, the one we want.

00:30:51.000 I don't know why.

00:30:52.000 I can't put my finger on it.

00:30:53.000 Was there a feeling at Fox or anywhere that you were that there was like an agenda to get a certain person elected?

00:31:00.000 Well, let me put it this way.

00:31:01.000 When you work in media, 90%, maybe 95% are liberal, for sure, and a big chunk of them are leftist, socialists.

00:31:10.000 So, you know how we feel about our candidates.

00:31:13.000 If all of a sudden a newsroom was 95% hardcore conservative, it would change the way things work.

00:31:20.000 So 95% being liberal, they're like, oh gosh, we don't like this guy.

00:31:23.000 Did you see around the time when the, so it was around 2016 you started to feel like things were changing?

00:31:29.000 It just went really crazy when Trump came around.

00:31:32.000 And then I really think it went to a whole new level with COVID.

00:31:36.000 And I believe that initially the 15 days to slow the spread, I think where we were all kind of like, whoa, what's going on here?

00:31:42.000 Okay, I'm willing to slow things down for 15 days.

00:31:46.000 I mean, I was reading the news and believing it.

00:31:49.000 We're seeing Fauci come out.

00:31:50.000 Who's this new scientist guy?

00:31:52.000 Oh my gosh, we've got to wipe our groceries down, put our masks on.

00:31:56.000 I mean, I believed it all.

00:31:59.000 Be afraid of our fellow neighbors and people next to us.

00:32:01.000 Be afraid.

00:32:02.000 And I work in a neighborhood, and I did a PragerU video, and I really kind of lay out what happened in the media and what brought me to walking away from a very large, comfortable paycheck and, you know, great benefits to just walk away from that.

00:32:17.000 It has to be something pretty bad.

00:32:18.000 Did you notice around this time that younger people were coming into the workforce?

00:32:22.000 Like, were you seeing more millennials join your office, your newsroom?

00:32:25.000 Yeah, and I talk a little bit about that.

00:32:27.000 There was a shift in, and this also plays into how media changed, there was a shift in losing some of the older, more established reporters and journalists.

00:32:36.000 And I think it's because corporate media took over.

00:32:39.000 There used to be a lot of regional news.

00:32:41.000 a company here and a company there owned it.

00:32:43.000 And then it became, now five or six corporations own all the media.

00:32:47.000 They bought up all these smaller outlets.

00:32:49.000 Maybe you had a family who owned three stations.

00:32:51.000 They bought that up and they just started accumulating more and more media over the years.

00:32:55.000 And this happened in the 80s and 90s.

00:32:57.000 And when they accumulated more, they wanted to pare down the bottom line.

00:33:01.000 So let's say, Tim, you're a 50-year-old seasoned journalist who's been at the station covering the city you live in

00:33:09.000 for a long time, and they go, Tim, you're making 120,000,

00:33:13.000 and we're hiring people right out of this college, ASU, for 40,000.

00:33:20.000 We can hire three people for the price of you.

00:33:23.000 And they start making your life miserable and, you know, saying no to every story you want to cover.

00:33:28.000 And pretty soon Tim goes, I don't want to work for this.

00:33:30.000 And guess what?

00:33:31.000 Those three millennials who've got journalism degrees are very, air quotes right there, theater degrees, social justice warriors, they're going to be communists. 0.92

00:33:42.000 And I'll tell you my thoughts on that.

00:33:44.000 And this is why I asked.

00:33:46.000 Um, you know, based on what I had seen when I was working for some of these companies, it was when they were bringing in more and more young people, younger millennials, is when they started to have a bigger influence on the culture.

00:33:56.000 And what I discovered when I was, uh, you know, managing, you know, uh, I was never a manager, but when I was working with younger people.

00:34:03.000 You're a manager now.

00:34:05.000 I mean, I'm the CEO of a company, but, uh, not that it's a big company, but, um, what I found is.

00:34:05.000 Definitely now.

00:34:11.000 Many of these young people had never had a job in their lives.

00:34:14.000 They had never worked.

00:34:15.000 And so what happens is they go to school from kindergarten all the way up until they're 22 or 24.

00:34:22.000 They've always been told what to do and by someone in charge.

00:34:26.000 So they have no... not within them.

00:34:30.000 They do not have the, I'll figure this out attitude.

00:34:33.000 They're not entrepreneurs.

00:34:35.000 They're not driven.

00:34:36.000 Quite literally, I experienced when working with these people is they come up to you and say, just tell me what to do.

00:34:42.000 And I would say, you need to figure it out.

00:34:44.000 Like, here's your problem.

00:34:45.000 That's on you.

00:34:46.000 I did not hire you so that I could solve problems for you.

00:34:49.000 And they weren't given freedom as a child because of Fear that the media put in.

00:34:53.000 Oh my gosh, don't let your kid ride their bike. 1.00

00:34:54.000 There could be a bad guy who wants to nab them.

00:34:56.000 There are bad guys out there, don't get me wrong.

00:34:58.000 But when I was growing up, we had tons of freedom.

00:35:01.000 My parents would say, get the heck out of the house and don't come back in until we call you.

00:35:06.000 And we would go out and play.

00:35:08.000 Maybe that's the secret, because I had that too.

00:35:09.000 They didn't have any of that freedom to grow up and learn all these little things.

00:35:14.000 And now CPS is showing up at people's homes because they had their children walk home from school.

00:35:18.000 That was literally a case that happened here in the United States.

00:35:21.000 Yeah, I think also, I mean, we talk about the corporate media a lot, but I think we also have to acknowledge big tech social media and the algorithms, I think, play more of an imperative role to the development of young children, especially with parents literally throwing their phone at a baby just to keep them occupied, showing them their latest kind of Hollywood propaganda, you know, that usually could probably could

00:35:21.000 Are you serious?

00:35:41.000 have been produced by someone like Harvey Weinstein or some other sicko or creepo. 0.59

00:35:45.000 And I think we have to understand when there's algorithms, they are literally shaping people's

00:35:50.000 perceptions of reality and when they do that, they could shape your reality to whatever they want. And I think they

00:35:56.000 did it They did it in such a twisted way where we're seeing record

00:36:00.000 high suicides, record high depressions, record high mental health issues.

00:36:05.000 And I think that's done deliberately because when you have someone who's not happy, when you have someone who's not healthy, they're going to be someone that's going to be dependent on someone.

00:36:12.000 Who's going to be that dependent?

00:36:14.000 The state, the government, rather than, of course, the parents, the family members, the individuals who are standing up for each other as responsible human beings.

00:36:21.000 We don't have that anymore.

00:36:22.000 We have the state as the mom and dad of people's lives.

00:36:24.000 And we saw so many people move into having the state control their life during COVID.

00:36:28.000 They left their job, had to close down, they left, they're getting paid, they're sitting home.

00:36:32.000 And now the people who got back out there and got to work are being told, get the job, I don't know if I can say that, or lose your job with the mandates that are out right now.

00:36:44.000 And so this is, we're taking the final group of people who are the working engine in this society, and they're trying to get them to walk away from their job.

00:36:53.000 And it's really frightening.

00:36:54.000 And then what do you do if they say, get the job or leave your job?

00:36:59.000 And you say, no, I'm not going to get that.

00:37:00.000 I don't want it.

00:37:01.000 Whatever the reason being, you want your freedom.

00:37:03.000 You walk away.

00:37:04.000 Now you're on the system.

00:37:06.000 They're destroying the working class. 1.00

00:37:09.000 Are you familiar with the band The Offspring?

00:37:12.000 No.

00:37:12.000 You've never heard of them?

00:37:14.000 Can you sing a few lines?

00:37:16.000 I'm separated.

00:37:17.000 You know that one from the 90s.

00:37:20.000 I definitely could, and I'd like to, and I actually... I don't... Anyway, anyway.

00:37:26.000 They're a very big band.

00:37:27.000 They're very big.

00:37:28.000 They were super huge in the 90s.

00:37:29.000 Pop punk.

00:37:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:31.000 They had the biggest, the largest record sales, most of my records sold for any independent label ever.

00:37:38.000 Now I'm embarrassed that I don't... I probably will hear it.

00:37:40.000 You know the song Pretty Fly for a White Guy? 0.69

00:37:42.000 Great song.

00:37:43.000 What else?

00:37:43.000 I don't know.

00:37:45.000 Anyway, look.

00:37:45.000 Their drummer was actually kicked out of the band because he had Guillain-Barré syndrome.

00:37:51.000 And you can't get the vaccine.

00:37:53.000 Well, the doctor at least said, you're not a candidate.

00:37:56.000 You can't get this because if you have Guillain-Barré syndrome, they worry you can get nerve issues.

00:38:02.000 And so when, I guess, when he talked to the band, I don't know exactly what happened.

00:38:07.000 All I know is ultimately he ends up kicked out of the band for that reason.

00:38:11.000 Became kind of a big issue in the news a little bit for those that are interested in music,

00:38:15.000 but that one to me was kind of the most insane.

00:38:17.000 Now, I was on Joe Rogan's show and he was saying to me that, well, look, man, that's

00:38:22.000 tough because venues won't let you perform with someone who's unvaccinated. 0.52

00:38:27.000 And I was like, I hear you.

00:38:29.000 I hear you.

00:38:30.000 So this band, The Offspring, is a business.

00:38:33.000 They have an employee.

00:38:35.000 They need to go to venues to sell their product.

00:38:39.000 And many of these venues are like, if you're not vaccinated, you can't come in.

00:38:42.000 It's insane to me that someone based, I mean, first of all, it's insane to me there's a mandate, period. 0.99

00:38:48.000 But to actually tell someone who's got a medical condition, you will lose your job because of your medical condition.

00:38:54.000 I thought that was illegal.

00:38:56.000 And you know, look, it's a clever workaround, I suppose.

00:38:59.000 If the venue won't let you in, the band can be like, we're not letting you go, you just can't work for us anymore.

00:39:03.000 But if it were me, and this is why I have... I don't know the story from, you know, the main guys at The Offspring.

00:39:11.000 Dexter Holland's the main guy, and then, you know, his guitarist, Noodles. 0.53

00:39:14.000 I don't know what their side of the story is, but based on what I've heard, If this dude said, look, my doctor says I can't get it, and they said, get out, you're fired, that's scumbaggery.

00:39:23.000 That is wrong.

00:39:25.000 You know what you do, Travis Tritt, is that the country star who said, you know, I'm not going to perform at these arenas that are mandating my fans come and show any vaccine mandate or show any vaccine passport or that my staff, my band members.

00:39:41.000 We're in tough times right now.

00:39:43.000 We're in times where we have to make difficult choices.

00:39:45.000 And that might mean walking away from a paycheck or walking away from a payday for this band.

00:39:50.000 But if we don't start standing up and doing the right thing, what's the next step?

00:39:54.000 Comedian Jim Brewer also did that.

00:39:58.000 I just want to point out, again, distress.

00:40:01.000 I don't know exactly what went on with his band, and I want to be careful, because for all I know, they were throwing pies at each other, and people get fired sometimes.

00:40:09.000 But if, operating under the assumption that there is a band worth millions of dollars, if you Google search the net worth of Dexter Holland, it's $80 million.

00:40:17.000 That doesn't mean it really is, but the dude is particularly wealthy.

00:40:21.000 You've got a drummer, I think who played with him for over a decade, I think like 14 years, And all of a sudden, this thing happens where it's like, venues aren't gonna let you in.

00:40:30.000 It is mind-blowing to me.

00:40:32.000 And this is where I say, like, economically, I'm probably lefty, I would never do that to somebody.

00:40:38.000 If I had a company that was worth $80 million, and we had cash, and the government came down, I would do two things.

00:40:46.000 The first, I'd say, then we will only play venues that don't have this.

00:40:51.000 And if for some reason we have no choice because it's a city with fans and we have to play, I will find a session drummer for this show.

00:41:00.000 Buddy, you've been with us for over a decade, I will not let you down.

00:41:03.000 I can't fathom a reality in which there are people who are like, I may be worth 80 million dollars, but screw you, you're fired because of what they're doing with this mandate. 0.88

00:41:12.000 That to me is sickening. 0.66

00:41:13.000 Well, and that's a good solution, okay?

00:41:15.000 If we have to perform, we've got fans who want to see us, we have our band, you know, we bring somebody in, you pay the guy who's part of the band for how many years, and then you don't fire him.

00:41:26.000 People are going to be sued later because we're going to find out this is all unconstitutional.

00:41:30.000 Yeah, and I think that's why... And this band has to someday, and I don't know if you're religious, meet their maker.

00:41:38.000 And you're going to meet your maker and you're going to say, I did the right thing or I did the wrong thing.

00:41:43.000 Or you're going to look at your kids one day and say, when this country hopefully were saved, you're going to say, I was part of saving this country.

00:41:50.000 This is supposed to be a punk band.

00:41:52.000 It is the antithesis of punk rock.

00:41:53.000 It sounds like a personality issue.

00:41:56.000 It's just too weird to not be.

00:41:58.000 I don't know, man.

00:41:59.000 After 14, 15 years, I don't believe so.

00:42:02.000 But don't these bands make all their money by performing live now?

00:42:05.000 I heard that, you know, with the record labels, you're not making what you think these guys would make, so they have to perform live.

00:42:11.000 Some of the people from the 90s got fathered in, grandfathered in, and they're still raking it in with recording deals.

00:42:15.000 But wouldn't being a punk band, wouldn't it be so much cooler to say, you know what?

00:42:20.000 We're gonna go to this arena, and no, screw it, we're not going there.

00:42:23.000 We're going to... somebody find a big field, Tim's house out here with all this land, and we're going to do our... Fridamistan.

00:42:30.000 Right.

00:42:30.000 We got 50 acres.

00:42:32.000 We're going to Fridamistan. 0.51

00:42:32.000 That's what we're doing. 0.51

00:42:34.000 You know, and that's why we... Luke came up with the name, it says Fridamistan.

00:42:37.000 Are you holding concerts there?

00:42:38.000 We are going to.

00:42:39.000 That's great.

00:42:39.000 Well, hopefully.

00:42:40.000 It's West Virginia, so nobody really cares.

00:42:42.000 You can do anything you want.

00:42:44.000 You almost can.

00:42:45.000 Well, when we drove out here, I was like, is this a Blair Witch Project?

00:42:49.000 What's going on here?

00:42:50.000 We are a few miles away from where they filmed Blair Witch, apparently.

00:42:55.000 That's what I was told.

00:42:57.000 I can't believe how thick the forest is out here.

00:42:59.000 That's great.

00:43:00.000 I mean, you can't even walk through it, probably, without hitting a tree.

00:43:03.000 We had a bear attack.

00:43:05.000 We had a bear.

00:43:06.000 So we have a chicken coop.

00:43:08.000 It's very nice.

00:43:08.000 It's bigger than my house.

00:43:10.000 No, no, that's New Chicken City.

00:43:12.000 Okay.

00:43:13.000 The ruins of Old Chicken City are in front.

00:43:15.000 The rubble.

00:43:16.000 Yeah, it's the old... But we had a bear.

00:43:19.000 I guess, look, with the lockdowns, there's less refuse, animals become more desperate, and a bear actually... This is basically our front porch.

00:43:26.000 So you have our front porch, and to the left is where the coop is, and a bear came and actually tried ripping it open, and we had, you know, people around us being like, there was a bear through the neighborhood, and we saw the metal ripped off, and we were like, that was the bear!

00:43:37.000 So, you know, where I'm going with this is guns.

00:43:42.000 Because out here in the middle of nowhere- Did you shoot the bear?

00:43:45.000 Is this how this ends?

00:43:45.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:43:46.000 Okay.

00:43:46.000 No, no, but that's where I'm going.

00:43:47.000 The point I'm making is, to wrap up, we're talking about music and freedom.

00:43:53.000 My attitude is, I will not go to these venues in New York.

00:43:57.000 Jack Murphy, a good friend of ours, end of the show, he's been doing these events.

00:44:03.000 And he said, we're gonna do ours on the other side of the river because they've got vaccine mandates in New York and we can do it at a venue without one.

00:44:10.000 I believe maybe you can't play a stadium because they're all mandating it, but stand up for something, right?

00:44:16.000 So for us, we have this space and we can do almost anything.

00:44:19.000 So we'll have a shooting range and we're going to be putting on concerts and we're going to be hosting events where we can just say, you know, screw it.

00:44:26.000 There's also Pork Fest up in New Hampshire that has, you know, it's all about freedom and they've got the Free State Project.

00:44:31.000 A bunch of Bitcoin conferences.

00:44:32.000 There's a bunch of free festivals.

00:44:34.000 There's a bunch of people coming together.

00:44:35.000 There is a mass awakening with protests happening all over the world in huge record numbers that are absolutely incredible to see, filling the streets for blocks on down.

00:44:46.000 And I just had this idea randomly, Tim.

00:44:48.000 I think we should do a parody of the Blair Witch Project. 0.97

00:44:50.000 We go to the woods that they filmed it in, but we have firearms, so if someone messes with us, we just shoot them.

00:44:55.000 That's the end of the movie.

00:44:56.000 It's like, okay, that's what happens when you're armed.

00:44:58.000 You're able to defend yourself and no one's able to, you know, hurt you or kill you.

00:45:02.000 Right.

00:45:02.000 We wouldn't have had a two hour terrifying movie.

00:45:05.000 It'll be like two minutes long.

00:45:06.000 We're walking in the woods.

00:45:07.000 Oh, there's someone trying to hurt us. 0.87

00:45:09.000 Trying to kill him.

00:45:09.000 It'll be like that famous scene from the movie where Luke's got the camera pointed up his nose and he's like looking around.

00:45:14.000 He goes, I think you need a wide cam for that.

00:45:16.000 He's got a wide cam.

00:45:17.000 And then he's like, I hear something.

00:45:19.000 Tim, do you hear that?

00:45:20.000 What's, who is there?

00:45:21.000 And then Luke goes, hold on.

00:45:22.000 And then he just unholsters his sidearm and he's like, don't move.

00:45:25.000 He's armed.

00:45:25.000 Don't move, don't make me, put it down, put it down!

00:45:28.000 He's running away.

00:45:28.000 All right, anyway, what were you talking about, Tim?

00:45:31.000 You were telling me a joke?

00:45:33.000 No, but moving on from that, I'm curious about, you're probably pro-2A across the board.

00:45:39.000 Absolutely.

00:45:40.000 Yeah, let's talk about guns.

00:45:41.000 The thing is, I know people who never even owned a gun who are now, they have guns, they've got ammo, they're stocking up.

00:45:47.000 I mean, what's happened the last couple years has woken up a lot of people.

00:45:51.000 And I'm not only, my whole family knows how to, you know, shoot and all of that.

00:45:55.000 We do, you know, target practice outside and at our gun club.

00:46:00.000 But I think it's imperative to have the Second Amendment.

00:46:02.000 The only thing keeping us America and free right now is our Second Amendment.

00:46:05.000 I was going to ask you, where on the Republican political spectrum are you?

00:46:10.000 Are you in the Mitt Romney authoritarian status sector?

00:46:13.000 Or are you in the Ron Paul, I believe, in freedom sector?

00:46:16.000 Can you hand me that sword over there, somebody?

00:46:19.000 On what level are you?

00:46:20.000 Let me just put it this way.

00:46:22.000 I'm endorsed by America First.

00:46:24.000 Let's say Ron Paul is a hundred, Mitt Romney is a zero on the freedom scale.

00:46:28.000 What's your number?

00:46:29.000 I'm a hundred.

00:46:30.000 Okay.

00:46:30.000 I'm a hundred.

00:46:31.000 I am a Trump Republican, as I like to say.

00:46:34.000 I'm endorsed by President Trump, proud of that, by Congressman Gosar, by Rick Grinnell, Michael Flynn, Mike Lindell, one of my favorite patriots.

00:46:43.000 I have the America First movement firmly behind me.

00:46:45.000 Well, Trump, I would say was like a, to my opinion, my perspective, like a 45-35.

00:46:50.000 I mean, he did the bump stock ban.

00:46:53.000 He made a lot of incredulous moves against the Second Amendment, personally.

00:46:56.000 Oh, you're talking only on the Second Amendment?

00:46:58.000 No, no, no, in freedom.

00:46:58.000 Just freedom in general.

00:46:59.000 I am 100% pro-2A, and as I say, my stance on it is it shall not be infringed.

00:47:06.000 I will never sign any legislation that would infringe whatsoever.

00:47:11.000 Now, will you work towards repealing unconstitutional gun laws?

00:47:15.000 Absolutely.

00:47:17.000 You know, but I think people think they go, oh, the governor has all the power to do everything.

00:47:22.000 You have to have legislators working with you.

00:47:24.000 You know, this is how the system works.

00:47:25.000 So we'd have to, and Arizona is a very free state when it comes to Second Amendment.

00:47:30.000 I think it's probably the most free.

00:47:32.000 You know, we've had open carry.

00:47:33.000 Texas didn't even have open carry until last year.

00:47:36.000 Right, right.

00:47:37.000 Lauren Boebert's Arizona, isn't she? 0.90

00:47:39.000 No.

00:47:40.000 Is she Colorado?

00:47:40.000 Yeah, okay, okay.

00:47:43.000 Yeah, what about heavy weapons?

00:47:45.000 How big?

00:47:45.000 How do you feel like how powerful weapon do you think it should be legal for someone to carry?

00:47:49.000 Are you asking, like Joe Biden, saying you need to have fighter jets if you're really going to take on the... Yeah, because people used to be able to own warships.

00:47:59.000 This is something Tim quotes from time to time.

00:48:00.000 People could own warships under the Second Amendment, like privateers, and then the government would conscript them to go fight for them.

00:48:06.000 But private citizens could own warships. 0.83

00:48:08.000 So should a private citizen be able to own a small nuclear device, nuclear bomb, rocket launchers?

00:48:13.000 I'm not for nuclear weapons.

00:48:16.000 I'm not for private citizens.

00:48:17.000 What about rocket launchers?

00:48:21.000 Tough questions.

00:48:21.000 These are tough questions.

00:48:23.000 I don't think I am I am for a you know, there's probably any weapon that any any gun.

00:48:29.000 I mean, I'm I'm pro to a so I I don't know rocket launcher.

00:48:33.000 It's getting more powerful.

00:48:35.000 So it's important debate is a rocket launcher a firearm?

00:48:38.000 Definitely.

00:48:38.000 It's a ballistic.

00:48:39.000 Right to bear arms.

00:48:41.000 It is arms.

00:48:42.000 And so this is an issue.

00:48:44.000 My attitude is private citizens should be allowed to own rocket launchers.

00:48:48.000 Private citizens should be allowed to own bazookas.

00:48:50.000 Well, if you read the Second Amendment, it talks about, you know, it's not about hunting and it's not about target shooting.

00:48:56.000 It's about protecting against tyranny.

00:48:58.000 Well, it's, it's, it's about protecting everything.

00:49:01.000 A free state, you know, requires the people to, I'm not quoting the Second Amendment, but I'm saying it says, you know, who can verbatim- Well, it's a well-armed militia, and- I wanna, I just wanna, I wanna- You wanna know?

00:49:14.000 Yeah, we're all- I wanna read it specifically- You guys go, okay.

00:49:17.000 I'll read it to you if you need it, right here.

00:49:20.000 A well-regulated militia.

00:49:22.000 Thank you.

00:49:22.000 Being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:49:26.000 The reason I want to get it verbatim is that securing a free state, what does that mean?

00:49:32.000 Well, can you have a free state if a bunch of bears attack your city?

00:49:36.000 No, not if it's a lot of them.

00:49:37.000 So it's not about one thing.

00:49:40.000 It's about everything.

00:49:41.000 And so there's been a lot of people who have said, it's specifically about when your government becomes tyrannical.

00:49:46.000 And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:49:47.000 It's not specifically about that.

00:49:48.000 It does include that.

00:49:49.000 It's also about if a foreign adversary seeks to invade your country and everyone's armed to the teeth and they're like, there's a gun behind you.

00:49:55.000 Or if a foreign corporation hijacks your monetary supply and prints your economy into oblivion, that's threatening the security of your free state right there. 0.52

00:50:04.000 What happens if someone comes to your door and tries to pull your family out and put you in a quarantine camp?

00:50:09.000 Oh yeah, that's when things go real dark, real quick.

00:50:11.000 Well, and I think this is why the difference between Australia, there's a million differences, and America.

00:50:16.000 And I think this is why we haven't had more strong restrictions placed against us.

00:50:23.000 Because, especially in a state like Arizona, you know, behind any door someone might have a gun.

00:50:28.000 Probably does.

00:50:29.000 You can see it in the way the Australian cops move, too.

00:50:31.000 They have no fear.

00:50:32.000 No fear.

00:50:33.000 And what people need to understand, it's not an issue of assuming that Australians would be running out the door and just firing wildly.

00:50:39.000 It's like Ian mentioned, it's the fear.

00:50:40.000 When the police broke down the door of Breonna Taylor's house, you know the story about Breonna

00:50:45.000 Taylor, her boyfriend fired around in the direction of the door, striking a police officer

00:50:50.000 in the leg.

00:50:51.000 That was ruled justified and the charges were dropped because if you break in someone's

00:50:55.000 door, they could be armed.

00:50:57.000 Police in America know this.

00:50:59.000 And that means regardless of what the law is, they have to contend with the fact there's

00:51:02.000 an armed population.

00:51:03.000 It doesn't mean that there's going to be a bunch of right-wing nutjobs taking over with 0.99

00:51:08.000 guns everywhere and screaming.

00:51:10.000 And, you know, when the government does something wrong, it means the government is scared to make certain moves.

00:51:16.000 Because it's not about whether or not there's an armed militia showing up at your door and saying, we hereby, you know, declare.

00:51:21.000 It's about the fact that you tried to enforce a red flag law.

00:51:25.000 This happened, I think it was in Maryland. 0.99

00:51:26.000 And the guy showed up with a gun, fought the cops, and the cops had to shoot and kill him.

00:51:30.000 The police understand that when you go to a door, you're not going to get someone saying, okay, you might get a crazy person, or not even a crazy person, a scared person.

00:51:38.000 Grant Taylor's boyfriend, who just said, someone's breaking into my home, fired, hit the cop in the leg.

00:51:43.000 Hey, that's America, baby. 1.00

00:51:44.000 In Australia, again, like Ian said, the cops are fearless.

00:51:47.000 They know they have nothing to worry about.

00:51:50.000 There's a video out of Australia where they kick the door and they walk in, start grabbing people, throwing them around.

00:51:54.000 I'm like, that can't happen here in America to the same degree.

00:51:58.000 Certainly there are no knock warrants.

00:52:00.000 It will never happen.

00:52:02.000 There's cops breaking into people's houses.

00:52:03.000 Maybe in certain states.

00:52:04.000 They were breaking into businesses a few months ago and shutting them down.

00:52:07.000 But not like that, and not too hard.

00:52:09.000 Yeah, like that.

00:52:09.000 There was video footage.

00:52:10.000 What state?

00:52:10.000 Where was that?

00:52:11.000 I remember seeing video footage in New Jersey.

00:52:13.000 There was a lady who was in her own private shop doing her own thing, and she was making baskets, I believe, if I believe the story was correctly coming off fresh of my mind.

00:52:24.000 Police officers literally broke down her door because she was open at her place of business by herself and told her to shut down immediately.

00:52:31.000 In North Jersey, a woman, they closed everyone's businesses and said, you're shut down, end of story. 1.00

00:52:37.000 So she started live streaming on Facebook.

00:52:39.000 If you want to buy any of my products, here's what I have.

00:52:41.000 The police showed up and they said, ma'am, you need to shut your store down. 1.00

00:52:44.000 And she said, what are you talking about?

00:52:45.000 It is shut down.

00:52:46.000 I'm closed.

00:52:47.000 And they go, no, you're posting things online.

00:52:49.000 Hmm, yep.

00:52:50.000 So these things do happen.

00:52:51.000 Yeah, when I say not like that, I mean not to the scale that it's happening in Australia.

00:52:54.000 No, no, no, no, Ian, you're still right.

00:52:55.000 New Jersey has possibly the strictest gun laws in the country.

00:52:59.000 You can barely even get a gun in New Jersey, and if you can, there's crazy rules, and I'm

00:53:06.000 pretty sure you can't have a weapon in your place of business.

00:53:09.000 I could be wrong, unless you are like a security guard and you've got special certification.

00:53:13.000 It is difficult and annoying and so the police in New Jersey are substantially less worried about kicking someone's door in.

00:53:20.000 This is why it's so important to vote for the right people.

00:53:22.000 Oh yeah.

00:53:23.000 This kind of stuff would not happen in Arizona.

00:53:25.000 Although our governor shut the state down twice.

00:53:28.000 What was your take on 80 House Republicans yesterday voting for a national registry of people who are vaccinated?

00:53:36.000 One of those people was, what's that Republican's name, with Den Crenshaw.

00:53:41.000 Den Crenshaw and 80 House Republicans all voted for this.

00:53:45.000 How would you vote on this particular issue when it comes to a federal registry of people who are vaccinated?

00:53:50.000 And what's your response to Den Crenshaw for voting for it?

00:53:53.000 You know, Dan Crenshaw used to be a really big hero, and in some ways I think he is a hero.

00:53:58.000 I mean, he served our country valiantly, and I think he's a great guy, but some of the things he's done politically I find alarming.

00:54:06.000 That being one of them.

00:54:08.000 That is a terrible idea.

00:54:09.000 Now, I'm running for governor, not running for Congress, and so this is something that would be handled at the federal level.

00:54:14.000 Of course, yeah.

00:54:16.000 But governor's more important.

00:54:18.000 I'm not for that.

00:54:19.000 Because as a governor, you have the authority to say, we're not going to give you the database.

00:54:23.000 We're not going to give you the information or the data.

00:54:25.000 Would you comply as a governor if there was a federal vaccine registry?

00:54:28.000 I believe our governor did comply with that.

00:54:31.000 In order to get the federal money, you had to agree to a bunch of stuff.

00:54:34.000 New Hampshire was one of the states that actually declined money as a state.

00:54:39.000 Would you be willing to do the same thing as governor?

00:54:41.000 I would be.

00:54:41.000 Okay.

00:54:42.000 Well, if it means we're going to give out, well, here's the deal.

00:54:44.000 We did get a lot of money for, and then they say it's for COVID relief, but not if I'm going to have to give up my, my citizens, our citizens, my fellow citizens, information, private information.

00:54:55.000 I'm impressed.

00:54:57.000 I was expecting you to dance around that, that answer.

00:55:00.000 Cause that's a tough one, right?

00:55:01.000 Well, I mean, look where it's getting us.

00:55:03.000 We keep complying with the federal government and all the things they want, and look where we are right now.

00:55:07.000 We're no more closer to having our freedom back.

00:55:10.000 And when do we stop and say, enough is enough?

00:55:13.000 We're not going to comply anymore.

00:55:14.000 We're going to get off the federal teat, take your money and shove it, or give us the money, but we're going to spend it the way we want to spend it.

00:55:20.000 Yeah, I'm down.

00:55:21.000 We're not going to do this, that, and the other with your money.

00:55:24.000 This is why I said governor is more important.

00:55:26.000 A lot of people pointed out that if Ron DeSantis were to run in 2024, Florida would lose a very powerful voice who's doing the right thing for the citizens.

00:55:36.000 And so he's better working in Florida because he's created a safe haven, essentially, for people.

00:55:41.000 They're flocking to Florida like crazy, buying up property like crazy.

00:55:44.000 Why?

00:55:45.000 Freedom.

00:55:45.000 Yeah.

00:55:46.000 Monoclonal antibodies for free for people who are sick.

00:55:48.000 Lowest COVID cases.

00:55:49.000 The economy reopened a while back.

00:55:51.000 You go there and you don't even realize there aren't any restrictions.

00:55:55.000 You're living free.

00:55:56.000 And that's what Arizona is going to be.

00:55:58.000 So I tell people too, especially with the legislatures in the states, if you keep thinking the federal government is your path to fixing your problems, you are incorrect.

00:56:06.000 Ron DeSantis has proven that.

00:56:08.000 Abbott, to a certain degree, he's not perfect.

00:56:11.000 We'll see.

00:56:11.000 He's coming around a little bit.

00:56:12.000 Yeah, maybe Alan West will win because he'll go, you know, he'll go much, much more like Ron DeSantis.

00:56:18.000 And then when it comes to a potential convention of states, whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, changes can be made if at the state level people vote for, and we mentioned this, across the board, and also to this point, district attorneys.

00:56:31.000 Very important.

00:56:32.000 Big issue.

00:56:34.000 And county attorneys and sheriffs.

00:56:35.000 I mean, we just have to be educated where we're going.

00:56:39.000 We have to be educated.

00:56:40.000 And I believe that the America First movement, and we're going to look at who's funding these people.

00:56:43.000 Who are their consultants?

00:56:45.000 People are waking up to it.

00:56:46.000 And you mentioned some people who are still asleep, like the person you talked about earlier.

00:56:51.000 A friend of mine.

00:56:52.000 Yeah.

00:56:52.000 We're not going to name names, but who's just completely unaware of anything.

00:56:55.000 But I think a lot of people are waking up who were never involved in politics.

00:56:59.000 We're seeing it when we do events.

00:57:01.000 We have a movement afoot in Arizona.

00:57:03.000 We do events that thousands of people come out to.

00:57:05.000 We do rallies and, you know, all kinds of rallies.

00:57:08.000 And people come up to me and say, I am embarrassed to say this, but I've never voted before.

00:57:12.000 And I'm whatever age, 50 something.

00:57:15.000 And I'm voting.

00:57:15.000 I'm so worried about where this country... I've never been politically involved, but I know who's running, who their consultants are, what's behind them, what they believe in.

00:57:25.000 So there's a lot of exciting things happening.

00:57:27.000 I'm actually very hopeful for the future.

00:57:29.000 I was at a Trump rally in Fort Lauderdale back in 2016, and every single person that I talked to had said, like, I'm either independent or I've not voted before.

00:57:39.000 And I was like, you're at a Republican rally, and they were like, Trump's different, man.

00:57:42.000 It's, you know, a lot of these people felt like Mitt Romney, like you saw the disdain that this Luke Murkowski has for the Mitt Romneys of this country.

00:57:50.000 And yet, but Trump supporters do, too.

00:57:51.000 They despise him.

00:57:52.000 I do, too.

00:57:53.000 I do, too.

00:57:53.000 And Jeff Flake and John McCain.

00:57:56.000 I mean, we saw a lot of that rhino, and we have that in Arizona.

00:57:59.000 We have a deep, deep swamp in Arizona.

00:58:02.000 And, you know, people go, don't say rhinos.

00:58:04.000 Well, that's what they are.

00:58:06.000 Actually, I disagree.

00:58:07.000 I think you're the rhino.

00:58:09.000 I think I'm the rhino.

00:58:11.000 But you know what I mean by that?

00:58:12.000 Why?

00:58:13.000 That the establishment, the Republican Party, has always been this feckless, weak, and in my opinion, well, ineffective.

00:58:22.000 And what's happened now is a bunch of people like Trump, like DeSantis, and like you have come in under the umbrella of Republican, representing something with principle.

00:58:31.000 And that's why I say, I think you don't want...

00:58:34.000 Well, I'm the conservative running.

00:58:37.000 I'm a conservative running as a Republican.

00:58:39.000 Exactly.

00:58:40.000 Because the Republican Party, I do believe, is the party of Trump.

00:58:42.000 It's the Trump Republican Party.

00:58:44.000 Now it is.

00:58:45.000 And that is America first. 0.95

00:58:46.000 And, you know, I talk to people who are establishment, and I believe I can bring people together.

00:58:50.000 I was a Republican looking from the outside in before I became a politician, thinking that the party, you know, we had the rhinos and all of that, but I thought the party was more congealed and together. Now that I'm running, I realize it's

00:59:03.000 so fractured.

00:59:04.000 And I believe we can bring this party together, but the establishment has to realize

00:59:08.000 America first is here to stay. And they should love that.

00:59:11.000 We've brought people off the sidelines, people who you mentioned at the Trump rally that I've seen

00:59:15.000 at our rallies who've never voted before.

00:59:17.000 But this is what I mean, basically.

00:59:20.000 When I see a ton of people who are not Republicans, who are joining the Republicans, but not because of Mitt Romney, Mitt Romney is what I think of when I think of Republican.

00:59:30.000 He repels people from the party.

00:59:32.000 It is an elitist, corporatist, anti-American.

00:59:36.000 The Koch brothers were all about the open borders and bringing in cheap labor to exploit.

00:59:41.000 Even Bernie Sanders opposed it.

00:59:43.000 Trump was not like the rest of them when he came in.

00:59:46.000 So he was a Republican, but just in name, he represented something new.

00:59:51.000 So to be fair, I would say now the party has become the party of Trump.

00:59:55.000 And now that is what it means to be Republican.

00:59:58.000 So now I would say, I understand when you refer to McCain and these individuals as rhinos, it's because they're the people who don't actually represent the voter base, those who are joining the party and those who are stepping up.

01:00:09.000 It's huge what's happening, though.

01:00:10.000 I mean, it is so huge what's happening.

01:00:12.000 It's very exciting.

01:00:13.000 We go to events, and they say, oh, can you come speak at this Republican group, or wherever we go.

01:00:18.000 And they call us a couple weeks later, and they say, we need to move the location.

01:00:22.000 We usually get 30 people.

01:00:23.000 We have 130.

01:00:23.000 And this is what we're seeing everywhere we go.

01:00:26.000 People are off the sidelines.

01:00:28.000 They're very excited about our campaign.

01:00:30.000 And we have a movement.

01:00:31.000 We have more volunteers than any other campaign in the country right now.

01:00:35.000 It took us only three weeks to get our signatures to get on the ballot.

01:00:40.000 It usually takes, to put that in perspective, and I'm new to politics, so I'm like, okay, three weeks.

01:00:44.000 Why did it take us three weeks?

01:00:45.000 And they say, Carrie, no, you don't understand.

01:00:47.000 It normally takes candidates nine months to get them, and they have to pay for them, and sometimes they don't get them at all.

01:00:54.000 You got your signatures in three weeks.

01:00:56.000 It's never been done in the history of Arizona.

01:00:59.000 But people are excited.

01:01:02.000 When's the election for Arizona?

01:01:04.000 August 2nd.

01:01:05.000 That's the primary.

01:01:06.000 So of next year?

01:01:08.000 Yeah.

01:01:08.000 You're getting a head start, huh?

01:01:10.000 We've been running since June 1st, and we've been running like it was October of 22.

01:01:15.000 My staff jokes it's like we're running like it's the last month leading up to the general election.

01:01:20.000 Do you have a show?

01:01:21.000 Sorry to interrupt, but do you have like a talk show?

01:01:23.000 You'd be great.

01:01:24.000 No, I need one.

01:01:24.000 Yeah, a weekly talk show.

01:01:26.000 You're on TV for three decades.

01:01:27.000 I've thought about doing a podcast.

01:01:29.000 So this is really interesting to watch, but I thought it was easier than this.

01:01:32.000 I thought with just me and a camera and you would bring somebody else in, but this isn't quite an ordeal.

01:01:36.000 Well, it's the best way to do it because it's not scripted.

01:01:38.000 You talk from your heart.

01:01:40.000 You don't talk from talking points.

01:01:42.000 There's nothing scripted here.

01:01:43.000 And I still got a lot of questions because there's a lot of people that I know that are absolutely disenfranchised with the Donald Trump party.

01:01:51.000 Not happy that he passed gun control, that he didn't release the CIA documents, that he didn't pardon Assange, that he didn't support his supporters on January 6th, and some people are saying that this is just a two-party duopoly.

01:02:02.000 What do you say to people who are disenfranchised with the left-right political system, which they see as two sides of the same coin that are essentially representing the special interests?

01:02:13.000 I'm disenfranchised with the two-party system as well, but I think, you know, I think President Trump did a really good job and he did what he could.

01:02:20.000 We don't know everything he was up against.

01:02:22.000 I mean, he was the first one going in as an outsider into the swamp and people go, well, he hired the wrong people.

01:02:28.000 Didn't, you know, there's a lot of positions you have to hire and he didn't have the best people to choose from.

01:02:31.000 He's working in the swamp.

01:02:32.000 Fauci.

01:02:33.000 He didn't hire Fauci, though.

01:02:35.000 He should have fired Fauci.

01:02:36.000 I wish he would have fired him.

01:02:37.000 But he had him around him.

01:02:38.000 And then what's that guy with the weird mustache?

01:02:40.000 John Bolton?

01:02:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:43.000 John Bolton.

01:02:43.000 I mean, that to me is not just bad people.

01:02:45.000 That's really bad people.

01:02:46.000 Yeah, you have to go in and you've got to hire people, though.

01:02:48.000 And he didn't make all the right decisions.

01:02:50.000 But I think, all in all, I think he did an amazing job.

01:02:55.000 He's not perfect.

01:02:57.000 You know, I love it when people say about Trump, I wish his tweets would have been nicer.

01:03:00.000 I wish it wouldn't have been so rough, or whatever they say.

01:03:03.000 And I think he's a New Yorker.

01:03:05.000 The reason we got somebody who was strong enough to go up against the system, to beat down all of those, what was it, 17, 18, 19 contenders, just one after the next, he brought them down.

01:03:15.000 And go in there and have the coconuts to do the right thing is because he was a tough New Yorker.

01:03:22.000 And it irritates me when people go, I wish, I like you, I really like you, Luke, but I wish you were a little less this way.

01:03:30.000 Well, we don't get to do that with human beings.

01:03:31.000 Are there any moves he did that you would criticize or you would do differently than he did?

01:03:35.000 Whether it's gun control, whether it's bombing foreign countries.

01:03:39.000 Is there anything he did that you will look back and say, I didn't like this.

01:03:44.000 I want to do this if I was in his position.

01:03:46.000 I'm not going to sit here and criticize.

01:03:47.000 I'm going to look at him and say, oh, I wish you wouldn't have done this and that.

01:03:50.000 I think on average, I think President Trump did an amazing job.

01:03:54.000 I don't know what he was up against during each of these pivotal moments when he was making big decisions.

01:04:00.000 You know, he was really up against a lot of people.

01:04:03.000 Media was on him.

01:04:04.000 The swamp was on him.

01:04:05.000 His own party sometimes was on him.

01:04:07.000 And I think he did the best job he could.

01:04:09.000 I think his whole party was on him the entire time.

01:04:12.000 The established Republicans.

01:04:13.000 Even people we think were with him.

01:04:15.000 And then you find out, oh my gosh, that guy wasn't with him?

01:04:17.000 Look at Russiagate.

01:04:18.000 I mean, the Republican Party was like, well, you know, we're going to have to look into this instead of just being like, shut it down.

01:04:23.000 They controlled, they had two years in control of Congress and they did nothing.

01:04:28.000 And I think a lot of people were disillusioned by it.

01:04:30.000 And Trump even said, if we lose the House, I will be impeached.

01:04:34.000 And my response, you know, my attitude then is kind of like, The Republican Party wasn't doing anything for Trump.

01:04:39.000 But I will say, I think it's fair to say Donald Trump should have fired Fauci.

01:04:44.000 And that's at least one thing you think he should have done, right?

01:04:47.000 Yeah, he should have.

01:04:48.000 But I think the reason he didn't is because he probably was... We know why.

01:04:54.000 I think it was Kushner and some of his other advisors who were like, no, no, no, no, don't fire him.

01:05:01.000 The people love him.

01:05:02.000 The media loves him.

01:05:03.000 And we've had a few of Trump's former senior individuals and people close to him who have been like, he was getting advice from them saying not to get rid of Fauci.

01:05:12.000 And he should have.

01:05:13.000 I mean, I don't know, Biden probably would have hired him back or something, but so what?

01:05:17.000 Trump was getting bad advice from that man.

01:05:19.000 Yeah.

01:05:20.000 Well, and you do take advice from the people around you.

01:05:22.000 I think that's a smart thing to do.

01:05:24.000 And maybe his gut was telling him to fire Fauci, but he had a lot of people going, don't do it, don't do it.

01:05:29.000 And he's like, well, maybe I'm having maybe the right or, you know, he had some smart people around him.

01:05:34.000 How about firing Mark Milley?

01:05:37.000 Mark Milley.

01:05:38.000 Who was he?

01:05:38.000 Has a name, right?

01:05:39.000 Mark Milley?

01:05:40.000 Yes, Mark Milley.

01:05:41.000 The General.

01:05:42.000 Oh, the General Milley.

01:05:43.000 Oh my gosh.

01:05:44.000 The one who, when they walked out to the church and then he badmouthed that move?

01:05:47.000 Or who said, you know, we need to look into white rage or whatever.

01:05:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:51.000 He should have fired that guy.

01:05:51.000 Yes, he should have fired that guy.

01:05:52.000 Maybe so.

01:05:53.000 Well, I think he talks about it.

01:05:55.000 The TV generals versus the, what does he call them?

01:05:58.000 The ones who go on all the talking heads and then the real generals.

01:06:01.000 Yeah.

01:06:02.000 He should have pardoned Julian Assange on his way out.

01:06:05.000 Why do you think he didn't do that?

01:06:07.000 I think people need to understand the power of the bureaucratic state, and I think... The ramifications if he did that, and what they might have pulled?

01:06:17.000 Yes.

01:06:18.000 I think people assume that once Trump got the seat of power, that he could have just pen-stroked all of these things.

01:06:24.000 He could not do that.

01:06:25.000 And as much as I wanted him, Ross Ulbricht and Julian Assange should have both been pardoned.

01:06:30.000 I feel like he was sitting there, and he probably... There's something we don't know, and he was like, Here's who I can pardon, here's who I can't, because they will absolutely get revenge on you.

01:06:42.000 And this is why I say when you bring all these things up, we don't know all of the different variables that were at play in these.

01:06:48.000 So I don't want to sit and criticize who I think was one of the greatest presidents, or if not the greatest president in my lifetime.

01:06:55.000 I personally think everyone should be criticized, especially if they're in power.

01:06:58.000 But we're also dealing with a situation that, of course, we're looking from the outside in.

01:07:01.000 And that's why I like talking to individuals, getting their perspective, getting their honest kind of takes on this.

01:07:06.000 And another thing I wanted to add, Tim, to your point, he was facing retaliation about potentially being attacked.

01:07:13.000 But the way Donald Trump left, he was viciously attacked.

01:07:19.000 I agree with you on the incident where it came to the corporate media.

01:07:25.000 They became hysterical, nonsensical, and totally erratic when it came to any kind of news reporting surrounding him because every little thing he did, they would trump up as Hitler.

01:07:37.000 Which was absolutely insane.

01:07:38.000 It was nonsensical. 0.92

01:07:39.000 It was garbled nonsense.

01:07:41.000 And they attacked him on no real legitimate critical issues that I believe he should have been criticized on.

01:07:48.000 And that's why I'm kind of bringing up the point and starting this conversation because I want to have an honest conversation about what I really think, what you really think, and who you really are.

01:07:56.000 And I think that's important to lay out.

01:08:00.000 I could be wrong about this.

01:08:02.000 Sheldon Adelson, is that his name?

01:08:04.000 Adelson?

01:08:06.000 I could be wrong about this, so definitely fact check me, but I believe the reason he hired Bolton was because, you know, when he got support in his campaign from Adelson, is that how you pronounce it?

01:08:16.000 That he was like, I want you to hire John Bolton.

01:08:18.000 And Trump was like, okay, you know, makes sense. 1.00

01:08:19.000 And Bolton is an idiot in my opinion. 1.00

01:08:22.000 You know, he had this line. 1.00

01:08:23.000 I don't remember when he said it, but it was during the Trump years.

01:08:26.000 By this time next year, we'll be celebrating in Tehran.

01:08:29.000 To imply that the United States would invade Iran and then have a stage set up celebrating their victory in a year, to me, is absolutely insane.

01:08:37.000 People don't understand that Iran is not Afghanistan or Iraq.

01:08:41.000 It is a massive, mountainous, developed nation.

01:08:44.000 And to have people who are just fervently pro-war.

01:08:48.000 Well, Trump wasn't pro-war.

01:08:49.000 But maybe he felt if he keeps his enemies close, you know, but I think Obama thought that too, when he got all those corporate guys to be surround him in the first couple of weeks of his administration, then he got co opted.

01:09:01.000 I know Trump isn't pro war, but Trump was was.

01:09:05.000 He was lied to for one, so I'll give him that.

01:09:07.000 When he was trying to withdraw from Syria and from Afghanistan, his own people in the government reportedly were lying.

01:09:13.000 When it came to Syria, they lied about the amount of troops we had there so that Trump thought we withdrew everyone and they kept them in.

01:09:19.000 That is insane.

01:09:20.000 That's a lie to the American people.

01:09:22.000 Trump still did have commando raids in Yemen, arms deals in Saudi Arabia.

01:09:25.000 What's going on in Yemen is absolutely horrifying.

01:09:27.000 And he did fire, what was it, 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria, and then the media praises him to a certain degree because of it.

01:09:35.000 So, I'll just put it this way.

01:09:37.000 I certainly think Trump was surprisingly the best I've seen in my lifetime in terms of withdrawing from Afghanistan and then Joe Biden screws the whole thing up.

01:09:45.000 Oh my gosh, it's horrible. 0.82

01:09:46.000 A miserable screw-up. 0.69

01:09:48.000 We've had Trump- And the media doesn't talk about it.

01:09:50.000 It's like a two-day story.

01:09:50.000 It's a surrender.

01:09:52.000 Joe Biden is- A 20-year war that we're winning and he surrenders.

01:09:56.000 I think Joe Biden may be the worst.

01:09:59.000 Maybe it's not fair to say the worst.

01:10:00.000 And you know the weapons they left behind were the most top grade weapons that are out

01:10:04.000 there.

01:10:05.000 85 billion dollars worth.

01:10:06.000 How come I'm hearing from my mother and other people that these weapons are obsolete?

01:10:10.000 They're like, oh, the weapons that they left there aren't even any good anyway.

01:10:13.000 Like, that's kind of the media has spun.

01:10:15.000 That's not true.

01:10:16.000 That's not true.

01:10:17.000 No, they were flying one of the helicopters around.

01:10:19.000 Yeah.

01:10:20.000 Now, they're not gonna be able to maintain them or anything like that.

01:10:22.000 But when I saw Donald Trump, this is one of the greatest moments of the Trump presidency.

01:10:28.000 When he comes out, the helicopter's roaring and the press ass is going on and he's like, We're going to do an excellent weapons deal with Saudi Arabia.

01:10:34.000 It's going to be great for the economy.

01:10:35.000 And all of the anti-war left, just like their jaws hit the floor, like he just came out and admitted what the United States does.

01:10:43.000 We're going to go keep the oil in Syria. 0.99

01:10:45.000 It's going to be ours.

01:10:46.000 We're going to keep the troops there protecting our oil, which we're going to get money from.

01:10:50.000 Well, these companies sell weapons.

01:10:52.000 I mean, they're big companies.

01:10:53.000 The grade of weapon they sell outside of the United States military is lower grade.

01:10:59.000 This is why Trump was one of the best presidents we've ever had, at least in the modern era, because when he couldn't get the troops out of Syria because he wanted a complete withdrawal, and they were like, no, we have to keep some in, he goes out publicly and says, you know, I wanted to get the troops out of Syria, but we got to keep in about 200 so we can take the oil. 0.59

01:11:15.000 And I was just like, keep talking, keep talking.

01:11:18.000 Let everybody hear what you're saying.

01:11:20.000 I think Trump knew what he was doing when he was saying that stuff.

01:11:22.000 I think Trump likes the idea of, you know, America being great and a strong military, but Trump's America first.

01:11:28.000 Trump wanted oil produced here.

01:11:30.000 He helped make and he helped maintain American energy independence, and then Joe Biden fumbles the ball, gives the Nord Stream 2 to Russia, and now is begging OPEC to give us oil because we're in trouble.

01:11:43.000 Then he releases strategic oil that lasts us two days. 0.99

01:11:46.000 Joe Biden is trash. 0.99

01:11:47.000 But fumble implies an error. 0.99

01:11:50.000 I don't believe it was an error.

01:11:51.000 I think he intentionally did this.

01:11:54.000 And think of the jobs, the tens of thousands of jobs that were lost.

01:11:56.000 Look at our gas prices.

01:11:59.000 I don't know what they are here.

01:12:00.000 It's got to be a lot more than there is.

01:12:02.000 Arm and a leg.

01:12:03.000 $350, yeah.

01:12:04.000 I thought it would be higher this close to D.C.

01:12:06.000 Yeah, so it's actually way worse in Colorado than it is here, which is really surprising to me.

01:12:10.000 Try California.

01:12:12.000 Oh yeah, I know California.

01:12:12.000 But we're looking at all of our energy prices going up.

01:12:16.000 They shut down a coal industry.

01:12:19.000 They're shutting down the coal industry, so we're going to look at all the prices going up.

01:12:23.000 Thank God we have a great nuclear power plant in Arizona with lots of... I believe in clean energy, but I also believe in energy that works.

01:12:29.000 I want to know when I turn my air conditioner on in Arizona, I'm going to get... the air conditioner's going to work, there's going to be power for it, my bill's not going to, you know, bring me under and keep me from being able to feed my family.

01:12:41.000 So I want energy that is Clean, of course, but I think nuclear energy is clean.

01:12:45.000 I completely agree.

01:12:46.000 And all this push for wind and solar, that's great.

01:12:49.000 Fine, if we want to go that way, that's great, but we have to have energy that is reliable.

01:12:54.000 Nuclear energy is green, there's no carbon emissions, and it has some of the highest energy output, energy earned on energy invested.

01:13:03.000 Yet it is, for whatever reason, progressives, and as much as I'm a fan, even Tulsi Gabbard opposes nuclear energy, and it makes no sense.

01:13:11.000 Well, a problem with its reliability is that it's centralized in plants and that if the power grid goes down, you can't access it.

01:13:18.000 Well, they have the new mini, there's a name for it, a fancier name.

01:13:21.000 Mini nukes?

01:13:21.000 The mini nuclear plants, they are.

01:13:23.000 Are they really?

01:13:24.000 And you can pack them together if you need, depending on how much power.

01:13:27.000 One, two, three, you can do a six pack of them and provide power.

01:13:30.000 This is the future, trust me.

01:13:31.000 I heard Bill Gates was working on this.

01:13:33.000 I'm going to look it up really quickly.

01:13:36.000 Well, now you're creeping me out.

01:13:39.000 We'll just go back to throwing some wood on the fire to heat.

01:13:42.000 Yeah, I'm gonna look this up.

01:13:44.000 Speaking of which, I'm from Arizona, okay?

01:13:46.000 It's freezing in here.

01:13:48.000 You guys are all like... Thank you.

01:13:49.000 Thank you.

01:13:49.000 I'm wearing a sweater.

01:13:50.000 I wear blankets and sweaters.

01:13:52.000 It's like 70.

01:13:54.000 CBS News, Bill Gates' mini-nukes.

01:13:56.000 Not a wacky idea as energy vision as you think.

01:14:01.000 This is CBS News, so... This is the future.

01:14:03.000 Look into it.

01:14:04.000 71.

01:14:04.000 71 degrees in here.

01:14:05.000 Actually, it says 70, 67.

01:14:08.000 I think it's 67 in here.

01:14:09.000 That's not reading the right temperature.

01:14:11.000 It's probably 61 in here maybe?

01:14:13.000 67 is where it's set to.

01:14:15.000 The current temperature is 71.

01:14:16.000 I mean my room is 74 and it's like 10 or 15 degrees warmer than this room.

01:14:20.000 Well in Arizona, and this is probably going to shock people even from Arizona watching, in the summer we keep our air conditioner at like 80, 82.

01:14:27.000 Does that seem really hot?

01:14:29.000 When it's 110 outside though?

01:14:29.000 Yes.

01:14:31.000 Yeah.

01:14:32.000 Yeah, but it's relatively dry.

01:14:33.000 It is a dry heat, you're right.

01:14:35.000 Dry heat, it's fine.

01:14:36.000 Yeah, you don't notice it as much because it's just like you're sweating, it's evaporating instantly.

01:14:40.000 It gets cold at night though.

01:14:42.000 It does.

01:14:42.000 In the winter, very cold.

01:14:43.000 Very cold.

01:14:43.000 Like, what does it get to at night in the winter?

01:14:45.000 It can get down in, well, in like December, January, it can get down in the 30s and 40s at night.

01:14:51.000 It really gets cold at night.

01:14:52.000 It's like a, it's like a, um, I've been to Phoenix a few times.

01:14:54.000 It's a huge swing from night and day, right?

01:14:56.000 Very big.

01:14:57.000 The dry, the dry conditions.

01:14:59.000 So we can heat, dry air heats up faster and it also cools down faster.

01:15:03.000 I remember I was skating in Phoenix and it was like 108 and then at night it was 50.

01:15:09.000 Is the Grand Canyon, does it run through Arizona?

01:15:13.000 Yeah, we have one of the Seven Wonders of the World in Arizona.

01:15:15.000 We're the Grand Canyon State.

01:15:17.000 I drove through there from LA to Ohio and the heat, it got so cold around the canyon because I think the heat was falling into the canyon.

01:15:24.000 What time of year was that?

01:15:26.000 Well, there is no such thing as cold.

01:15:28.000 Cold is only when the heat goes from one to the other.

01:15:30.000 Right, so the heat would be going up.

01:15:31.000 It would be colder in the canyon.

01:15:32.000 But I think literally the heat was falling into the canyon.

01:15:35.000 Hot air was falling in because it's so easy.

01:15:37.000 I think you can see it.

01:15:38.000 I've been to Arizona... What time of year was it when you were there?

01:15:41.000 Like three years.

01:15:41.000 In winter?

01:15:42.000 No, it was in the summer.

01:15:45.000 It was in June of like three years ago.

01:15:47.000 And it got down to like 38 at night with black ice.

01:15:50.000 Now, I've been to Arizona a lot.

01:15:52.000 It's a beautiful state, especially Sedona.

01:15:55.000 So I just kind of want to ask you, how are you going to get the hippies to vote for you in Sedona?

01:16:01.000 What is your Sedona hippie policy?

01:16:03.000 Sedona is changing.

01:16:05.000 I was there for an event.

01:16:07.000 It was a meet and greet at someone's home.

01:16:08.000 We had about, I don't know, 75 or 100 people.

01:16:10.000 And I said, please don't just bring people who already like me.

01:16:13.000 I want you to bring people in who are like, I don't know.

01:16:16.000 And she brought 10 Democrats in who are not happy with the direction the country is going.

01:16:22.000 Nine of them ended up changing their party affiliation after our meet-and-greet.

01:16:26.000 So people are waking up to this nonsense that's happening.

01:16:30.000 The leftist policies don't work.

01:16:32.000 The liberal policies don't work.

01:16:33.000 And we can see it.

01:16:34.000 And I don't know how the situation is here regionally, but we've got a state called California.

01:16:40.000 Some call it Commie-fornia, right next to us.

01:16:42.000 And this is the state that we escaped to in those June days where it's 120 degrees and we want to go to the beach.

01:16:49.000 People aren't even doing that anymore.

01:16:50.000 California is so wrecked from decades of liberal policy.

01:16:55.000 So people are seeing it in Arizona and Sedona's changed quite a bit because Californians have been moving over.

01:17:00.000 You know, you've heard the don't California my Arizona, don't California our Arizona.

01:17:04.000 The situation's gotten so bad in California that people are just fleeing.

01:17:08.000 They're picking up and they're buying homes in Arizona and it's changing the landscape of Arizona and Arizonans don't like it.

01:17:15.000 So they're waking up in places like Sedona.

01:17:17.000 There are still some hippie enclaves.

01:17:19.000 There's nothing wrong with hippies.

01:17:20.000 I like hippies.

01:17:21.000 Ian's a hippie.

01:17:23.000 Sedona's changing and people are just wanting a little more common sense.

01:17:27.000 They don't want to see this influx of California ideas and policies coming in.

01:17:32.000 You've got to vote for the candidate who says, Camifornia.

01:17:35.000 I mean, have you been there lately?

01:17:37.000 It's pretty bad.

01:17:38.000 It is.

01:17:39.000 We used to want to go to the beach, you know, let's take a weekend and I don't even want to do it anymore.

01:17:43.000 I'll just swim in the pool.

01:17:44.000 It's happening in West Virginia a bit, too, because in D.C.

01:17:47.000 it's really bad.

01:17:48.000 So what happens is the more, the wealthier D.C.

01:17:51.000 people, and they're also the periphery of Maryland and Virginia, they're moving further west.

01:17:55.000 And West Virginia is pretty awesome.

01:17:57.000 And so what's happening is these people are moving to West Virginia and then going, They're going on Facebook, and they live in the mountain not too far from me, and they're like, I heard someone shooting their guns, and this is inappropriate.

01:18:08.000 There are children calling 911.

01:18:09.000 And everyone's like, yeah, it was probably like scaring off a bear or something.

01:18:13.000 Yeah.

01:18:13.000 So if you're worried about being here, just want to let you know, people shoot guns all the time.

01:18:18.000 One of the things that we're hearing is like, Yeah.

01:18:20.000 Yep.

01:18:20.000 be like a shooting range. And then all of these urban liberals move around it knowing this and

01:18:25.000 signing agreements saying you realize there's a shooting range. But then once they have the

01:18:29.000 dominant majority, they all say, yeah, well, now we're going to vote to change the law.

01:18:32.000 Yeah. Or they get into the city council, the town council and change the law. Yep.

01:18:36.000 And so in West Virginia, where I'm at, there are communists and I'm not using that word as a

01:18:43.000 pejorative. I'm not using it disparagingly literal people who are of communist persuasion

01:18:50.000 getting elected in local elections.

01:18:53.000 And people don't know because they're not putting their party affiliation for some of these positions, and they're running unopposed in some circumstances, like you mentioned with this guy in Arizona.

01:19:03.000 Well, we just, I think it was in New York, some of these protesters saying the only option is going, did you hear that when they were protesting?

01:19:09.000 Chicago, I think it was.

01:19:10.000 Was it Chicago?

01:19:10.000 Yeah, the only solution is revolution, communist revolution.

01:19:13.000 Yeah, I mean, and this is, in Arizona, ASU, that student holding up the sign, Death to America.

01:19:19.000 This is what we're churning out in these schools, and it has an effect.

01:19:24.000 You know, they're pretty young right now, but when they get older and they start moving around Tim's place, I just found this out because of Josie, the red-headed libertarian, and it's apparently that communists aren't people under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

01:19:40.000 So fact check me on this one.

01:19:41.000 Okay, I don't have a computer.

01:19:43.000 What she pulled up, you fact-checked it?

01:19:45.000 I know.

01:19:45.000 I trust her.

01:19:46.000 She's very knowledgeable.

01:19:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:48.000 So in the 1964 Civil Rights Act, it talks about what you can or can't do.

01:19:50.000 You can't discriminate for this and that reasons.

01:19:52.000 But apparently there's a provision that says this will not be construed to provide protections to members of communist organizations or affiliated groups under like the American Sedition Clause or something like this.

01:20:03.000 I bring that up not because I think communists are entitled to their free speech and activism, but I do wonder if there is a line for sedition.

01:20:12.000 You know, we used to take it very, very, very seriously.

01:20:15.000 That if there were people that were going out outright saying, we will destroy this country, they'd be like, okay, well now that you said that, whatever you do, we're going to be watching out to make sure you're not committing sedition.

01:20:24.000 That is, you know, seeking to subvert or destroy the United States.

01:20:27.000 A lot of people incorrectly say treason.

01:20:29.000 Treason is providing aid or abetting foreign adversaries.

01:20:33.000 I wonder, how do we survive as a country, because we believe in free speech, even for people who hate this country, but when you have a massive population, not the biggest, they're kind of fringe, but they're still around 8-10% of people who believe this country is evil and racist, and literally are saying on TV they want to destroy it, if we just sit back and say, okay, then they will!

01:20:53.000 Well, and they're being taught Marxism in schools.

01:20:56.000 We're seeing it in universities.

01:20:57.000 It's not being called that.

01:20:58.000 They don't say, we're sitting you down class and we're teaching you Marxism today.

01:21:01.000 They're teaching them the tenets of that.

01:21:03.000 Praxis.

01:21:04.000 And then they start to take on that belief system, that ideology, and they are churned out into our world.

01:21:10.000 Well, the lifestyle.

01:21:11.000 It's dangerous and it will kill this country.

01:21:15.000 So what do we do?

01:21:16.000 Well, we have to start in the schools.

01:21:18.000 We have to stop this curriculum.

01:21:19.000 This is why it gets right down to the most important vote that you place is for your school board.

01:21:25.000 And we've got to get more parents involved.

01:21:27.000 Like I said, this one creep that was on the school board, he still is.

01:21:30.000 We're trying to recall him right now.

01:21:32.000 He got on because nobody else ran.

01:21:35.000 And I'll take a little bit of the blame as a parent.

01:21:37.000 I'm sure a lot of them who are looking at this situation now going, why didn't I run?

01:21:42.000 But we just weren't aware.

01:21:44.000 And now we are, so we have to jump in.

01:21:45.000 And it's a grind to run for public office.

01:21:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:21:50.000 It's a sacrifice, but we have to do it.

01:21:51.000 We don't get this free, wonderful country if we don't all get involved and stay involved.

01:21:56.000 If you would become governor, what would be your first call of action?

01:21:59.000 What would you do when you first get in there?

01:22:01.000 There's so many things, and I've talked about a lot of them.

01:22:03.000 I mean, where do you want to start?

01:22:05.000 You want to start on the board?

01:22:06.000 One thing, the first thing.

01:22:07.000 You sit down at the office, the first thing I'm going to do right now, what is that?

01:22:11.000 Well, there's a lot of things, but let's talk about, I mean, we can talk about the border, we can talk about schools.

01:22:15.000 I want to end all agreements that we've made with China. 1.00

01:22:21.000 I want to bring manufacturing back to Arizona.

01:22:23.000 We saw what happened during COVID.

01:22:25.000 We couldn't even get medicine.

01:22:26.000 We were out of toilet paper, for God's sakes.

01:22:29.000 And now we're relying on our, think about this, our medicines to come from China, the country that started this whole thing up. 0.85

01:22:36.000 And this is just unbelievable.

01:22:38.000 So we've got to bring manufacturing back.

01:22:41.000 I would cancel any deal we have with China, with the Communist Party.

01:22:44.000 We're not going to work with the Communist Party. 0.96

01:22:47.000 We can't compete with them when they have slave labor making all the junk that they 1.00

01:22:51.000 send over. 0.98

01:22:52.000 We don't want that junk anymore.

01:22:53.000 We don't want to live with that on our conscience that we have a bunch of junk we're buying that's made by people who are making this against their will.

01:23:02.000 I would immediately, if anybody, and I've said this many times, if anybody is fined or charged with breaking a mask mandate, or COVID mandate for standing up for liberty, I would pardon them on day one.

01:23:14.000 A mass pardon of anybody who gets a ticket or an infraction or loses an infraction on their business license for standing up to this.

01:23:22.000 Because we have to have somebody who's looking out for the people who are showing courage at this time.

01:23:27.000 It's very hard to show courage, and we saw it in the last five years.

01:23:30.000 You know, people got canceled for saying something or putting a tweet out that talked about what their belief was, and they got canceled and they'd lose a job.

01:23:37.000 Well, we need to get beyond that and start making courageous moves.

01:23:40.000 So we have to reward people who are courageous and do the right thing.

01:23:44.000 And if that's a business that's pushing back against mandates and they get fined, we're going to relieve them of those fines because they did the actual right thing.

01:23:54.000 Have you ever thought about setting up a state cryptocurrency if the U.S.

01:23:57.000 government were to cut off the state for ignoring their mandates?

01:24:03.000 Interesting.

01:24:03.000 I've actually had a lot of people talk to me about crypto.

01:24:05.000 What do you think?

01:24:06.000 I mean, how would that look?

01:24:08.000 I'm not an expert on everything.

01:24:09.000 I always say that, but I'm always open to hear ideas.

01:24:12.000 I'm not an expert.

01:24:13.000 I wouldn't think of myself as an expert, but I would like to see every state have its own cryptocurrency, maybe a federal cryptocurrency as well that we could inter-trade.

01:24:21.000 Well, I believe the Constitution talks specifically about currency and who can set it up.

01:24:27.000 Yeah, nobody other than Congress is supposed to do that.

01:24:30.000 Yet they set up the Federal Reserve to do it, basically ignoring their constitutional duty.

01:24:33.000 It's infuriating.

01:24:34.000 At this point, the reins are in your hand as a state, as a state governor.

01:24:39.000 I think you would use it to trade only within the state at first.

01:24:42.000 Because the government, U.S.

01:24:43.000 government, federal government, wouldn't legitimize it.

01:24:45.000 And they'd try and stop it.

01:24:46.000 So that might cause more problems.

01:24:48.000 But if they're going to cut off financial services to the state, Well, I mean, that's a scary prospect.

01:24:54.000 If we get to the point where, you know, we already have DeSantis saying we need a civilian military to be brought back because, well, he didn't say this, but it's obvious it's not working between, you know, Joe Biden and Florida.

01:25:05.000 Joe Biden's agenda is clearly cutting off red states who are not falling in line with the COVID stuff.

01:25:09.000 But we have to have governors like DeSantis and like the governor I'll be, where we stand back and we say, you're not going to fly people in here overnight.

01:25:16.000 We're going to fly them to your state. 0.99

01:25:17.000 You saw what's happening with Joe Biden taking the kids in the middle of the night and flying them to Tennessee.

01:25:21.000 I mean, that is evil.

01:25:22.000 He's smuggling children.

01:25:23.000 That is child trafficking.

01:25:24.000 Yeah, my, it's crazy.

01:25:27.000 It's unbelievable.

01:25:28.000 And I love that Governor DeSantis, he does a lot of things that I've actually talked about when we're doing rallies and such.

01:25:34.000 We're talking about the- Vote for me and I'll just do what DeSantis does.

01:25:36.000 No, well, and I talked about that.

01:25:38.000 I said, we need people who are strong and going to do the right thing.

01:25:42.000 A good leader knows right from wrong and does the right thing no matter what kind of pressure they're under, and our current governor didn't do that.

01:25:48.000 He is a Republican, but when it came time to shut our state down, he folded when the leftist mayors of Tucson and Phoenix and Flagstaff were pressuring him to shut the state down and mask our children.

01:26:01.000 And he folded every single time to the activists in the media.

01:26:05.000 You're sitting there watching going, come on, do the right thing, Governor Ducey, do the right thing.

01:26:08.000 And it was so disappointing.

01:26:10.000 He shut our state down twice.

01:26:11.000 So we need strong people that don't just wait to see what's Governor DeSantis going to do.

01:26:15.000 OK, people like that, then I'll do it.

01:26:17.000 We need people who are going to do the right thing first.

01:26:19.000 Governor DeSantis might even copy me.

01:26:21.000 And I love Governor DeSantis.

01:26:24.000 So DeSantis can run for re-election saying, I'm going to do what Kerry Lake's been doing.

01:26:27.000 No, I mean, he's a rock star.

01:26:28.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:26:29.000 We need more people like that.

01:26:30.000 People who've got a backbone. 0.93

01:26:31.000 I'm told not to say balls, so I'm going to say backbone. 0.95

01:26:34.000 We need people with a backbone. 0.84

01:26:37.000 And you know, and the problem is we get so many people who run and it's hard to run unless

01:26:42.000 you have a machine behind you.

01:26:44.000 I'm fortunate.

01:26:45.000 I've got almost 30 years in Arizona.

01:26:47.000 People know who I am.

01:26:48.000 They've invited me into their home.

01:26:49.000 They trust me.

01:26:50.000 I understand the state.

01:26:51.000 I've covered the issues for nearly three decades.

01:26:54.000 And I've got huge name ID.

01:26:57.000 You can't put a price on that.

01:26:58.000 I've got 85% name ID in the state of Arizona.

01:27:01.000 I'm running and being funded by the people of Arizona, not the swamp.

01:27:05.000 But if any other person wants to run, they have to find a funding source.

01:27:09.000 That's what I feel like political parties are.

01:27:10.000 Yeah.

01:27:11.000 Like if you ever think about just shirking political parties completely and once or even after you're in office.

01:27:16.000 Well, I mean, I think being a Trump Republican, you know, when Trump started out, it was almost shirking.

01:27:20.000 He was like a libertarian, liberal guy that went in and just was like, what party should I pick?

01:27:25.000 This one looks easier, so I'll go that direction.

01:27:27.000 Well, but he's a conservative.

01:27:29.000 I mean, I think Trump is a conservative for sure.

01:27:31.000 I mean, at the time, conservatives didn't like him because they were like, he's a New York liberal, you know, so he's not far left or anything. 0.94

01:27:39.000 The establishment didn't like him because they were like, oh crap, he might win.

01:27:43.000 But I'll tell you what was really interesting. 0.92

01:27:44.000 I think it was Vox who wrote that the Democrats had gone nuts because Trump had stolen some of their core policy positions, like working with unions and the working class stuff.

01:27:54.000 And it's just populism.

01:27:55.000 It's just America first, and we're going to help the workers of America.

01:27:59.000 But Democrats were like, OK, now what do we do?

01:28:01.000 Well, the Democrats sold out the worker.

01:28:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:28:03.000 Right.

01:28:03.000 With NAFTA, they sold out the worker under Bill Clinton.

01:28:06.000 We started to deal with with China, the political elite. 0.69

01:28:10.000 And when I say that, that's Democrat and Republican sold out this country and the working man and woman.

01:28:15.000 Even before that with Kissinger literally sending over all the jobs over to China, getting rid of domestic manufacturing in the United States.

01:28:22.000 Good places like upstate New York where it's just, it's like a graveyard of old factories rusting and falling apart in Michigan.

01:28:30.000 This is what happens when you're not America first.

01:28:32.000 You wanna know what I, I'm just, man this is, gives me hope.

01:28:37.000 White pill we say.

01:28:39.000 I don't like having politicians on the show very often.

01:28:43.000 I talked to Lydia about booking politicians.

01:28:45.000 It's challenging because politicians, they give you politician answers.

01:28:48.000 And I think you've been absolutely forthcoming and phenomenal.

01:28:51.000 I'm not a politician.

01:28:52.000 And that's the thing.

01:28:53.000 There's a lot of people and they're like, well, you know, I gotta be careful.

01:28:55.000 And I'm like, here we go.

01:28:57.000 Tell us what you want to do.

01:28:57.000 Tell us what you think.

01:28:59.000 But regardless of that, I will say to the people we've had on who have been running, it's been infinitely better than the traditional TV run, fake personality.

01:29:07.000 This is why things are changing.

01:29:09.000 Because you came on the show.

01:29:11.000 We had never talked before this.

01:29:13.000 Lydia books you.

01:29:13.000 You show up.

01:29:14.000 We meet for the first time.

01:29:15.000 I drive through the woods, and I'm thinking this is gonna be the end of me.

01:29:20.000 But what happens is we come upstairs, we sit down, we turn the cameras on live, and we just talk.

01:29:26.000 Yeah.

01:29:26.000 No script.

01:29:26.000 So no script.

01:29:28.000 It's so funny because my opponents will say, oh, she won't talk. 0.97

01:29:30.000 And I'm like, are you kidding?

01:29:31.000 You need to follow me around.

01:29:32.000 I always say, they go, what do you want to talk about?

01:29:35.000 I go, ask me anything.

01:29:36.000 I have to ask you this because a lot of people, I'm sorry Tim, are commenting in your chat room about weed.

01:29:44.000 Where do you stand on personal use of drugs for individuals and the larger concept of victimless crimes?

01:29:51.000 What's your stance on those issues?

01:29:52.000 Oh, okay.

01:29:53.000 Well, we do have recreational pot use in Arizona and that's been settled.

01:29:59.000 I think we need to follow the law, though I don't want it getting in the hands of my children.

01:30:02.000 I don't think it's good for their developing minds.

01:30:05.000 So we need to really be strict with the laws on that.

01:30:08.000 I'm not going to go in and just start revoking laws that the people have passed.

01:30:13.000 But you do have recreational use.

01:30:15.000 In Arizona we do.

01:30:17.000 Is it 18 and older?

01:30:20.000 I think it's 21.

01:30:23.000 I think it's 21.

01:30:24.000 I should know that, but I don't.

01:30:25.000 I don't know, Luke.

01:30:26.000 You thought you had a gotcha, but it was an easy one.

01:30:28.000 It wasn't a gotcha.

01:30:29.000 It's your comment section.

01:30:30.000 Ask her about weed.

01:30:33.000 I think they want to act like I'm angry.

01:30:35.000 I'm anti-marijuana.

01:30:36.000 If you want to do that, if that's what you're into, great.

01:30:38.000 If you want to smoke cigarettes and that's what you're into in your legal age, as long as you're following the law.

01:30:44.000 I want to make sure we do follow the law because I do think it's really bad for our young people's developing minds.

01:30:50.000 If they're using that, they're going to school, it's already difficult enough.

01:30:54.000 I agree.

01:30:55.000 Because if you have a law that's a really bad law, that's like the Nazis made laws that made it illegal to be Jewish basically.

01:31:01.000 As a governor, as someone in control and supposed to be, like, my job is to uphold the law.

01:31:06.000 What do you do when you come across a bad law like that?

01:31:08.000 Well, I think what you do as a governor is you come in and you start working with the legislature and you say, here are my priorities.

01:31:15.000 We need to make sure we're protecting families, we're helping businesses grow, and I'm talking Arizona businesses.

01:31:20.000 We've really neglected Arizona businesses.

01:31:22.000 The small businesses, medium-sized businesses really suffered under our two shutdowns in Arizona.

01:31:28.000 Now everyone's asking about DMT.

01:31:30.000 Sorry.

01:31:30.000 What is that?

01:31:33.000 Dimethyltryptamine.

01:31:34.000 It's a chemical that is produced in your brain and animals and plants that causes you to do massive... Everyone has a breakthrough trip when you smoke it apparently.

01:31:42.000 The thing is that we have so many serious issues right now.

01:31:45.000 We've got our schools teaching Marxism to our kids.

01:31:48.000 Teaching anti-American history.

01:31:49.000 We have our border that's wide open.

01:31:51.000 Fentanyl coming from China.

01:31:53.000 China sending their fentanyl to Mexico for the cartels to run across our border is coming in.

01:31:59.000 We've got a defund the police effort going on in our state.

01:32:03.000 Our crime is through the roof, up hundreds of percent, thousand percent, murder rates, violent crime.

01:32:09.000 I mean, I could go on and on.

01:32:10.000 The list goes on.

01:32:11.000 We've got water crisis in Arizona that we have to confront.

01:32:15.000 We have a ton of issues.

01:32:16.000 So, I mean, we can go into all these smaller things that DMT... DMT.

01:32:20.000 DMT.

01:32:21.000 There's a lot more about that in the next couple decades.

01:32:23.000 Yeah, I'm just trying to get a little... The priorities are really securing our border.

01:32:27.000 You know, DMT, it's illegal.

01:32:29.000 It's a federally illegal, considered an illegal drug, but it's, you know, relatively easy to synthesize the body.

01:32:35.000 So whether or not it should be illegal, I guess maybe.

01:32:37.000 Let me turn it back on you guys.

01:32:39.000 What do you think about California and Oregon where you just openly can shoot up drugs?

01:32:45.000 We used to go to San Francisco in the summer.

01:32:49.000 Again, we stopped going to California pretty much.

01:32:51.000 And we were there with our little ones.

01:32:53.000 Our kids were little.

01:32:54.000 And we literally walked by two people shooting up drugs.

01:32:56.000 And it was so horrifying.

01:32:58.000 Covering the kids' eyes.

01:32:59.000 And that was kind of the beginning of the real fall of San Francisco.

01:33:03.000 I think all drugs should be legal recreationally.

01:33:06.000 All drugs.

01:33:07.000 However, hard drugs have to be done in, like, facilities.

01:33:12.000 It would be regulated to a certain degree.

01:33:14.000 And I'll speak lightly on this to a certain degree.

01:33:17.000 I like what Portugal has done in terms of reducing a lot of the addiction.

01:33:22.000 I think we need to treat drug abuse like a disease.

01:33:26.000 I'm not saying it is a disease, but I think we need to treat it as, like, something that needs to be solved for people and not putting people in prison because of it.

01:33:33.000 So I think the way we've handled victimless crimes over drug use has been absolutely wrong.

01:33:37.000 And you get someone who gets it.

01:33:39.000 I'll use the opioid crisis because it's a really good example that hits home for a lot of people who lost their jobs.

01:33:43.000 You get the factories shipped overseas.

01:33:46.000 You get these people who are struggling to make ends meet.

01:33:48.000 Some of them get hurt.

01:33:49.000 Some of them get prescribed opioids.

01:33:51.000 Some of them fall into it because they're desperate and depressed.

01:33:54.000 And now they're gonna be locked up in prison because of it.

01:33:57.000 No, no, no.

01:33:57.000 This is a failing of the establishment political class gutting our system, allowing big pharma- Allowing drugs to pour in.

01:34:04.000 From China and through big pharma.

01:34:06.000 And so I look at it like, here's what I think.

01:34:08.000 We should not be imprisoning people for this.

01:34:10.000 You catch someone on the street, the police should be like, you're coming with us, sir, to this facility where we're gonna get you clean.

01:34:16.000 We're gonna help you out.

01:34:17.000 You can do it, but it has to be done under these strict guidelines.

01:34:20.000 So you're not in the middle of the street.

01:34:21.000 You give it to kids, felony.

01:34:23.000 Any of that distribution of kid stuff I don't stand for, but I don't like the idea of victimless crimes.

01:34:29.000 I don't know, I won't pretend to have all the solutions.

01:34:32.000 There's a lot of despair right now and you talked about even with social media and what you're seeing.

01:34:37.000 You think you're calling up what you want to see, but the tech tyrants are really pushing a lot of despair our way as well.

01:34:43.000 There's despair in the culture that is around us.

01:34:46.000 There's despair in the way our kids are being taught.

01:34:48.000 When you're taught that, you know, America's a bad place and just all of the... to judge somebody by the color of their skin with some of the racist stuff they're pushing with CRT and SEL.

01:34:58.000 You know, I'm a big believer in the words of Martin Luther King Jr.

01:35:01.000 You judge someone by the content of their character.

01:35:04.000 But we're pushing just so much negativity everywhere that our kids are depressed.

01:35:09.000 And then the shutdown on top of it?

01:35:11.000 You know, our shutdown, caused by Fauci's mandates, And, you know, each county, I'm sure your county had one.

01:35:18.000 We had a state health director who did more to damage our health in Arizona than improve it.

01:35:25.000 These shutdowns caused mental illness to spike, drug overdoses to spike, isolation to spike, depression to spike.

01:35:33.000 People lost their lives because of these shutdowns.

01:35:37.000 They did not help our health.

01:35:38.000 They hurt our health.

01:35:39.000 And so there's just a lot of despair.

01:35:41.000 People freaking took their lives because of the shutdowns.

01:35:44.000 The suicide. 0.89

01:35:45.000 Absolutely.

01:35:46.000 When I did the PragerU video, I talked about, I live in a neighborhood with a lot of elderly neighbors.

01:35:46.000 It's horrifying.

01:35:51.000 They're wonderful.

01:35:51.000 And my neighbor, one of my neighbors, was the most beautiful 90-year-old woman ever.

01:35:55.000 She swam every day, she walked, she had lunch with her friends.

01:35:59.000 And I saw her about six months into this whole shutdown and all of it.

01:36:04.000 She was in a walker walking to the mailbox.

01:36:07.000 And I didn't even recognize her.

01:36:08.000 I mean, I stopped the car and I looked at her and I was like, oh my gosh, what has happened?

01:36:15.000 Her life, you know, these later years, it's so important for our older people to stay active.

01:36:22.000 And you know, it's just really tragic.

01:36:23.000 And that's when I realized the propaganda being put out is dangerous and it's killing people.

01:36:28.000 And I will not be a part of that.

01:36:30.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats, take some audience questions.

01:36:33.000 So I will say, thank you all for your Super Chats.

01:36:35.000 Smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, become a member at TimCast.com.

01:36:40.000 I'm gonna try and go through this and find questions directly for Kerry.

01:36:44.000 Usually we'll just read a bunch of stuff, but for everybody who has a question for you, you know.

01:36:48.000 Can I say one thing?

01:36:49.000 Because my husband keeps looking at me.

01:36:51.000 KariLake.com.

01:36:52.000 K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E.com.

01:36:54.000 You can see where I stand on, you can see my platform.

01:36:56.000 Not everything is covered there.

01:36:57.000 People will say, what about DMT?

01:37:00.000 Is that what it was?

01:37:02.000 I do not have a platform.

01:37:05.000 Item DMT yes, so I'll address that real quick.

01:37:09.000 Just it's a fascinating drug They're they're doing a lot of research on it and people say that you know they have very profound experiences It's unique to any other drug, but more more importantly is a lot of the stories about it are that people who take it in the same space experience the same thing and it makes them feel like there's something bigger there and That's why it always comes up.

01:37:30.000 DMT.

01:37:31.000 You take it every night.

01:37:32.000 Do you know that?

01:37:34.000 You take it every night.

01:37:35.000 When you dream.

01:37:37.000 It's a natural chemical.

01:37:39.000 I'm a big, big believer in prayer.

01:37:41.000 And I think that there's a lot of... We've taken God out of our entire society.

01:37:45.000 And that started really in the 60s.

01:37:48.000 And everyone's got an emptiness inside of them that your faith and God can fill.

01:37:54.000 But we've taken that out of our society and everyone has that emptiness and they're going

01:37:58.000 to fill it with something. So you need to find something.

01:38:00.000 And I'm a big believer in prayer and the Bible and I'm not trying to push that.

01:38:05.000 If you want that, that's fine.

01:38:06.000 But I'm not going to experiment with DMT.

01:38:10.000 I'm fine with prayer and I think that... There's a lot of power in that.

01:38:14.000 I've noticed when I'm thinking and kind of meditating, and I guess praying is one way of thinking, I'll think like, I'll figure out the answer.

01:38:21.000 I'll think that, for instance.

01:38:22.000 And that will give me a very different response than, what is the answer?

01:38:25.000 Like if I'm talking to something.

01:38:27.000 And it seems to respond more than just telling myself, I'm going to figure it out.

01:38:32.000 Like there's a reciprocation.

01:38:33.000 Yeah.

01:38:34.000 A friend of mine said to me, I was waking up a lot in the middle of the night, like three o'clock and she said, Oh, that's just God telling you, you know, you haven't had time to pray.

01:38:42.000 God knows you're alone.

01:38:43.000 And that's when my life has been very busy lately.

01:38:46.000 And so now instead of when I wake up at three in the morning, I don't say, Oh my gosh, I'm sleepless.

01:38:50.000 I go, Oh, this is a really great opportunity to talk to God.

01:38:53.000 Yeah.

01:38:53.000 And it's so important, and I wish more of our kids had access to faith.

01:38:59.000 We've got a lot of atheists out there, and they're children who have never been raised to even know about the Bible.

01:39:05.000 I think it's worth teaching our kids about.

01:39:07.000 I'll tell you this, I'm not an atheist.

01:39:10.000 I believe in God, but I'm not theistic.

01:39:12.000 I grew up Catholic, briefly.

01:39:13.000 I do not believe in the Bible, but I certainly value a lot of what's in it, because I've had a lot of great philosophical discussions in that regard.

01:39:20.000 And I think a wise person, a smart person is going to try and read as much as they can to understand as much as they can.

01:39:26.000 I'll tell you though.

01:39:27.000 We got to go to Super Chats.

01:39:28.000 Absolutely.

01:39:29.000 Oh, I'm fired up.

01:39:31.000 So we have a ton of Super Chats just saying they're from Arizona and they're big fans.

01:39:34.000 And I'm trying to make sure I pull up the ones that are questions for you.

01:39:37.000 And I kind of feel, I kind of feel funny because I've seen so many like political interviews where the questions are always the lamest questions.

01:39:45.000 So guys, feel free.

01:39:47.000 Like Luke asked about DMT, super chat us whatever question.

01:39:50.000 Are you saying that was a lame question or a good question?

01:39:53.000 That was a good question.

01:39:54.000 Because usually it's like Obama.

01:39:56.000 Is this a machete by the way in City of Liberty?

01:39:58.000 Yes, it is.

01:39:59.000 So look, look, look.

01:40:00.000 I'm listening to like an interview with Obama, and he's like, we're going to take real questions online.

01:40:05.000 And I'm like, oh, they're going to ask about the kids he bombed.

01:40:07.000 And they're like, I'm wondering about paying for tuition.

01:40:10.000 Are you the greatest?

01:40:11.000 Throw me anything.

01:40:13.000 Good, bad, ugly.

01:40:13.000 This one so far is just a very general basic question from Riker Ruiz.

01:40:18.000 He says, Carrie, I'm an Arizona native and I feel like I'm being priced out of my own state.

01:40:22.000 What will you do about this as a governor?

01:40:25.000 We need to build more homes.

01:40:26.000 I mean, we've got to build more homes right now.

01:40:29.000 And we need to make it easier on the home builders. 0.96

01:40:31.000 Right now, I talk to people who are developers, and they say 25% of the price of a home is taxing and excessive permits and things like that.

01:40:41.000 There's a lot of regulation that goes into the pricing on a home.

01:40:45.000 But we're also seeing Californians come over.

01:40:47.000 They come over, and let's say Ian's selling his house for $250,000.

01:40:53.000 And you come over from California and you go, I've got a ton of cash.

01:40:57.000 I'm just going to offer you $275.

01:41:00.000 Arizonans can't do that. 1.00

01:41:02.000 So all the Californians are buying it.

01:41:04.000 The house prices keep going up, up, up.

01:41:07.000 And we really need to build a wall between Arizona and California.

01:41:10.000 I'm just joking.

01:41:12.000 But we have the Californians coming in and they're bringing the prices up and so we need to, we really do need to, I wish Californians would stay and try to fix their state so that Arizona can have prices for homes that are reasonable.

01:41:25.000 Have you looked into 3D printing housing?

01:41:29.000 No, I haven't.

01:41:29.000 3D printing housing technology is pretty cool.

01:41:31.000 Yeah, it is cool.

01:41:32.000 But I want to try to read as many questions as I can.

01:41:33.000 Yeah, I've got a bunch of questions.

01:41:34.000 So we've got William Martin.

01:41:35.000 He says, Hello, Kerry Lake.

01:41:37.000 This may be a long shot, but are you aware of a YouTuber named Razorfist?

01:41:41.000 He is very tuned in Arizona politics, and I believe he has been supportive of your campaign in the past.

01:41:47.000 I have not heard of him.

01:41:48.000 Him or her.

01:41:48.000 I don't know.

01:41:49.000 Razorfist.

01:41:49.000 Yeah, he's a dude.

01:41:51.000 I felt like that was a great question.

01:41:52.000 It's an easy answer.

01:41:54.000 No, I'm sorry.

01:41:55.000 I haven't.

01:41:56.000 I thank him for his support.

01:41:57.000 I've seen his stuff.

01:41:58.000 He does great work.

01:41:59.000 And I think it's just... And he lives in Arizona.

01:42:02.000 He's in Arizona?

01:42:02.000 He does?

01:42:02.000 Yeah.

01:42:03.000 He did not like John McCain, I recall.

01:42:06.000 Well, there you go.

01:42:06.000 A lot of people did.

01:42:08.000 Maybe you guys can connect or something.

01:42:09.000 A lot of people.

01:42:10.000 Yeah.

01:42:11.000 A lot of support here.

01:42:12.000 Let me see.

01:42:16.000 Uh, gotta try and find a good, good direct question.

01:42:19.000 Everyone's just being so nice.

01:42:20.000 A lot of people are saying their big fans are from Arizona, so... You can read those.

01:42:24.000 You're just glazing right over the...

01:42:30.000 He's like, Tim's like, we've got to get to these questions, we've got to get to them, and now we're all sitting here looking at Tim going, go ahead!

01:42:36.000 Well, it's because I'll have like two right there, but a lot of them are just very much big support for you, and so I want to make sure, you know, we get an opportunity to actually have questions that people might not normally get, because this is that opportunity.

01:42:46.000 I'm telling you guys, this is your opportunity to ask literally anything, you know.

01:42:50.000 I mean, if you ask something that's completely untoward, I obviously won't.

01:42:52.000 Figuratively, I mean.

01:42:53.000 Yeah.

01:42:54.000 Art Vandelay.

01:42:55.000 Ah, Art!

01:42:56.000 Vandelay Industries.

01:42:56.000 Good to hear from you.

01:42:57.000 That's right, that's right.

01:42:58.000 You get the reference, right?

01:42:59.000 Yeah.

01:43:00.000 Great to see Carrie on IRL. 0.99

01:43:02.000 Just donated $100 to our campaign.

01:43:04.000 Thank you, CarrieLake.com.

01:43:05.000 Carrie, no more CRT, no more woke insanity.

01:43:08.000 The A's universities don't fulfill their charter.

01:43:10.000 This needs to be fixed ASAP, and you're the only one who will do it.

01:43:13.000 I will.

01:43:14.000 I've been calling out ASU, and I've been calling out Michael Crow, the president.

01:43:19.000 I don't think I know of any politician who's called him out by name.

01:43:23.000 Very powerful guy, but we're supposed to have an affordable education at ASU, and the price keeps going up, up, up, up, up.

01:43:30.000 And it's become a woke institution.

01:43:33.000 We don't want that in Arizona.

01:43:35.000 And we should be holding back some of the state funds, some or all of them, if they're going to continue along.

01:43:40.000 If they're teaching kids to hate this country, that they're putting up signs, death to America, something's wrong at ASU.

01:43:47.000 And they're throwing a fit because a student by the name of Rittenhouse dared to apply or to attend online.

01:43:55.000 This is wrong and we need Michael Crow to stand up as the president of ASU and say, this is nonsense, we're going to stop it.

01:44:03.000 And the governor should be calling him and saying, what the hell's going on over there? 0.98

01:44:06.000 This is ridiculous. 0.97

01:44:07.000 It'd be a good debate between you and him. 0.98

01:44:09.000 Between Michael Crow and me?

01:44:10.000 The debates are going to be fun, I can't wait.

01:44:13.000 I still sometimes look back at Trump's debates, and I think that was some of the best debating I've ever seen.

01:44:19.000 And people go, oh, he wasn't a good debater.

01:44:22.000 I'm like, are you kidding me?

01:44:24.000 That was the best debating.

01:44:25.000 It was WWE.

01:44:27.000 It was.

01:44:28.000 All right, here's one that can get us in trouble, but I'm going to read it anyway because I'm not going to shy away from these questions, so keep in mind.

01:44:34.000 Nicholas DeLay says, Hi Cary, Buckeye resident here.

01:44:37.000 Miss you on the news, the Razor Force has your back. 0.99

01:44:39.000 Have you talked to Tim about the 2018 Maylens for Kristen Cinema?

01:44:45.000 No.

01:44:45.000 Do you know about that?

01:44:47.000 What's he referring to?

01:44:48.000 The 2018 mail-ins.

01:44:50.000 I'm assuming that means ballots or something.

01:44:52.000 Yeah, I mean, does he want to expound on that just a bit?

01:44:55.000 No, no, that's the question.

01:44:57.000 I didn't know if you knew about it.

01:44:58.000 We had election problems in 2018 that were never looked into.

01:45:02.000 You know, there were issues.

01:45:04.000 I remember with the chain of command, there were issues with chain of command.

01:45:07.000 And Adrian Fontes was in charge in 2018.

01:45:10.000 He's still in charge.

01:45:11.000 He's now running for Secretary of State, which is even scarier.

01:45:14.000 He was in charge of Maricopa County elections.

01:45:16.000 Now he's running for Secretary of State.

01:45:17.000 These are people we don't want running our elections.

01:45:20.000 They can't even admit that there were major problems.

01:45:22.000 So I don't know how deep we want to get into the elections, but we as Arizonans need to really look at the people running our elections because we've had some shady characters.

01:45:32.000 Or get a governor who's going to, you know... Well, I mean, when I'm governor, we're going to go through that forensic audit and we're going to fix everything.

01:45:40.000 And if people defrauded the voters, and I don't want to get into too much detail because I know YouTube has some issues with us talking about that because there's censorship, unfortunately, in this country and it's going to become outlawed in Arizona.

01:45:52.000 We're not going to allow censorship.

01:45:54.000 But anybody who defrauded the voters is going to be investigated, and they should be locked up right now, frankly.

01:46:01.000 They should be locked up right now. 0.98

01:46:02.000 And I'm not the governor right now, and I'm not the attorney general, but these people need to go in there and do their damn job. 0.99

01:46:10.000 All right. 0.98

01:46:11.000 We got Frank Reynolds.

01:46:12.000 He says, Rand Paul for President 2024.

01:46:15.000 Would you support?

01:46:16.000 Well, if President Trump runs in 2024, I'm going to support President Trump.

01:46:22.000 I like Rand Paul.

01:46:23.000 If President Trump says, you know what?

01:46:24.000 I've had it with this.

01:46:25.000 I'm going to just enjoy it.

01:46:26.000 I mean, he's got a great life.

01:46:27.000 I'm going to go golf or whatever.

01:46:29.000 Then I would look at Rand Paul.

01:46:31.000 I think he's a great American patriot.

01:46:33.000 He cares about this country.

01:46:35.000 To me, he's one of the greats there.

01:46:37.000 Didn't he just say today that Fauci should be locked up?

01:46:40.000 Did he say that?

01:46:41.000 Yeah.

01:46:41.000 For five years.

01:46:42.000 For lying to Congress.

01:46:44.000 Why just five years, huh?

01:46:46.000 Here's a good one.

01:46:47.000 First, let me ask you how long you were in Phoenix for.

01:46:49.000 20, 30 years?

01:46:50.000 I moved there in 94.

01:46:52.000 Drove into town on a hot August day.

01:46:54.000 Falconizer says, Carrie, did you see the Phoenix lights?

01:46:58.000 I was working that night.

01:46:59.000 As a matter of fact, all of the Phoenix Lights documentaries that were produced in movies show, usually they show me anchoring that night.

01:47:09.000 We were on the air that night and we're like, oh my, you know, the phones were lighting up, they're Phoenix Lights, so there's a bunch of different, you know, over the years they've done a lot of the documentaries on it.

01:47:18.000 Is this where there's like all those blinking lights and it looked like a battleship in the sky or something?

01:47:24.000 I can't believe how big that story was.

01:47:26.000 What was it?

01:47:27.000 A bunch of hot air balloons lined up?

01:47:29.000 I forget.

01:47:29.000 They said it was weather balloons.

01:47:30.000 Do you remember?

01:47:32.000 Flares?

01:47:33.000 I mean, there's a bunch of different... Or a V-shaped alien craft.

01:47:37.000 Are you looking at a video of it right now?

01:47:39.000 Like a newspaper article of it or something.

01:47:41.000 Yeah, like a weird V-shaped light thing.

01:47:42.000 Interesting.

01:47:44.000 That got a lot of airtime.

01:47:45.000 We talked about Phoenix Lights, well, forever.

01:47:48.000 Decades.

01:47:48.000 There's a lot of government, I would imagine, like, space program work done in the desert, underground and stuff in the mountains.

01:47:53.000 Air force bases, yeah.

01:47:54.000 Are you near Area 51?

01:47:55.000 Is that in Arizona?

01:47:57.000 No.

01:47:58.000 I don't know what this means, but I'm gonna read it anyway.

01:48:00.000 Uh-oh.

01:48:00.000 Philip Somet says, Born and bred Tucsonian here.

01:48:04.000 You have my vote, Carrie.

01:48:05.000 All you have to do is disavow the Sun Devils and bear down.

01:48:09.000 Is that all it takes for me to gain Tucson but lose Phoenix?

01:48:13.000 Okay, I'll tell you what.

01:48:14.000 I don't like the woke-ism over at the Sun Devil, ASU Sun Devils.

01:48:20.000 But I know a lot of the Sun Devils don't like it either.

01:48:23.000 Nobody wants that.

01:48:24.000 And we've got great institutions of learning, higher education.

01:48:28.000 They gotta do better.

01:48:29.000 They gotta do better.

01:48:30.000 David Charpenting says, Mrs. Lake, will you appoint Michael Malice your press secretary?

01:48:36.000 Do you know Michael?

01:48:37.000 I don't.

01:48:39.000 So Dave Smith, if he does run for the Libertarian Party presidential, to be a candidate, or to run for office, Michael Malice, who is one of the most notorious internet trolls, is going to be his press secretary.

01:48:54.000 And we're big fans of Michael.

01:48:55.000 He's a good friend of the show.

01:48:56.000 He's a good friend of ours.

01:48:57.000 What makes him so unique?

01:48:59.000 He's very smart.

01:49:00.000 He's an anarchist.

01:49:01.000 He's a writer.

01:49:02.000 He's a writer.

01:49:03.000 He's written about North Korea.

01:49:07.000 And he's very anti-establishment, and he's critical of the media and the propaganda and the lies, and he's a guy with sharp wit, good memory.

01:49:15.000 So, if there's anybody who could take the test... Is he in Arizona?

01:49:19.000 No, no, he's in Texas.

01:49:21.000 We're probably going to hire someone in Arizona.

01:49:23.000 You know, speaking of North Korea and the universities, I remember the student who...

01:49:29.000 Yeah, who left North... she was a defector from North Korea, said that she experienced more brainwashing going to an Ivy League college, Princeton I believe it was, than she experienced in her time in North Korea.

01:49:40.000 This is how effed up our universities are.

01:49:44.000 That they're being brainwashed worse than what's going on in North Korea.

01:49:48.000 Think about that for a minute.

01:49:49.000 We have to address the curriculum in this country.

01:49:52.000 The poisoning of our children's minds.

01:49:54.000 Here's a good one for you.

01:49:55.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:49:56.000 says, Carrie, how does the American First movement handle foreign affairs? Are we still

01:50:01.000 the world police against evil? What about women being drafted? 0.59

01:50:05.000 Well, I talk about China all the time.

01:50:08.000 I mean, the CCP is not our friend, and we need to bring manufacturing back, and I think we have an opportunity to do that, much like President Trump's Opportunity Zones, and didn't get enough coverage in the media because the media didn't want to showcase anything that the president did well.

01:50:22.000 We need to bring back, we're calling it Resiliency Zones, and we want to do that in Arizona where we can, you know, manufacture some of the essentials that we need so we don't have to rely on these countries like China. 0.99

01:50:33.000 What was the other question?

01:50:36.000 Women being drafted? 1.00

01:50:36.000 Women being drafted, yes. 1.00

01:50:38.000 I'm not for... I don't think we need the draft.

01:50:40.000 We've got a volunteer military right now.

01:50:43.000 If women want to fight, I think it should be optional. 1.00

01:50:47.000 I am very much about making sure women have the opportunity to do the things that really are meaningful in life though, and I think motherhood is really meaningful.

01:50:56.000 One of the questions was about foreign policy, and it said world police.

01:50:59.000 I think they're specifically referencing war.

01:51:03.000 I'm applying for the job of Arizona governor.

01:51:07.000 I don't think we're gonna be starting a war in Arizona.

01:51:10.000 I hope not.

01:51:11.000 Well, what if the Feds call in the National Guard for deployment, say, in a foreign country or whatever?

01:51:18.000 And what are you asking?

01:51:20.000 I mean, what's your, I guess, I don't know exactly what you could do if the Feds were like, we're going to pull National Guard and send them to Iraq or something, but I'm just curious your thoughts on something like that happening, how you view it, positive, negative.

01:51:34.000 I'm not for starting a bunch of wars.

01:51:35.000 I mean, I really loved President, one of the reasons I really loved President Trump was that he was trying to end the endless wars.

01:51:43.000 I'm about running for Arizona governor, protecting Arizona, putting Arizona first, and bringing, making sure that we are a great climate.

01:51:50.000 We want to preserve our Western heritage.

01:51:52.000 We're having so many people move in and Arizona is, have y'all been there at least once?

01:51:56.000 Oh yeah, a bunch of times.

01:51:57.000 It's such a welcoming state that I was able to in 94 drive into town and feel like within a few weeks I'm like, I'm an Arizonan.

01:52:04.000 You can't do that in New York.

01:52:05.000 You can move to New York, you can live there five years, and you still can't say I'm a New Yorker.

01:52:10.000 They just won't let you say it.

01:52:12.000 So it's a welcoming state, but we don't want to be a doormat.

01:52:15.000 And we've let so many people in that it's changing that feel of Arizona.

01:52:20.000 We want to be uniquely Western and uniquely Arizona.

01:52:22.000 They have really good country fried steak in Arizona, in Phoenix, that I love.

01:52:26.000 I literally fly in there just to get the country fried steak.

01:52:28.000 I'm gonna look up the name.

01:52:30.000 It's an old traditional place.

01:52:32.000 Western place.

01:52:33.000 They have license plates and a bunch of crazy stuff all over the world.

01:52:35.000 I love that place.

01:52:35.000 What is it called?

01:52:36.000 I love that place.

01:52:37.000 What is it?

01:52:39.000 Texas.

01:52:40.000 Yes, that's it.

01:52:40.000 I love it there.

01:52:41.000 That's my favorite place.

01:52:42.000 It is a great place.

01:52:43.000 I've been there like 50 times.

01:52:44.000 We got a good question from Chrissy.

01:52:45.000 She says, what's your plan for the water crisis to solve it?

01:52:48.000 You know what?

01:52:49.000 We're actually looking at... I'm open to all ideas, but we have to deal with our water crisis because we have a growing population.

01:52:56.000 People are moving to Arizona and it's a wonderful state.

01:52:58.000 People want to move there, but we can't survive if we don't address our water issues long term.

01:53:03.000 And so we can obviously look at things like runoff and making sure that we're doing the right things on a smaller level, but I want to work with our partners to the south, Mexico, and work on a desalination plant.

01:53:14.000 And we can provide the power through these micro nuclear plants, as we were talking about, and work with Mexico.

01:53:20.000 Northern Mexico needs water, the whole region needs water, and I want to help spearhead

01:53:25.000 that, bring other western states into it.

01:53:28.000 But desalination works.

01:53:29.000 That's how Israel gets their water.

01:53:31.000 And Israel, an Israeli company, started a desalination plant in Southern California.

01:53:36.000 It is expensive, but if we invest in this, the price will come down, and we can't afford

01:53:43.000 to say, oh, we're not going to deal with our water issue because it's expensive.

01:53:47.000 Think about when the taps go dry, we're really going to...

01:53:49.000 It's the most valuable resource on the planet.

01:53:51.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:53:52.000 So you're thinking desalination in California?

01:53:53.000 Desalination in Mexico, because frankly, it's so difficult through the regulations and the

01:53:58.000 BS you have to go through to deal with California.

01:54:00.000 It's easier to work with Mexico and make that happen. 1.00

01:54:03.000 There are challenges, however.

01:54:04.000 So we've talked about it.

01:54:05.000 I've done actually a few mini-docs on desalination, is that the runoff is basically brine, and

01:54:10.000 it is heavier than the water.

01:54:12.000 So when they're expelling, it just kills the lower level life forms on the...

01:54:17.000 In the ocean?

01:54:18.000 In the ocean.

01:54:19.000 ... which causes an upward chain of events where you end up with massive die-offs.

01:54:23.000 I'm not saying desalination is a no.

01:54:24.000 Have you seen the study that says that's not true?

01:54:27.000 There is one.

01:54:28.000 I'm going to send it to you.

01:54:29.000 You have seen it?

01:54:30.000 I haven't, I haven't.

01:54:31.000 I actually read one study, because obviously we have to look at the environmental issues and concerns that we could have.

01:54:36.000 But I read one study where it actually increases sea life.

01:54:39.000 And I'm going to send it to you.

01:54:40.000 I wish I had my computer in front of me right now.

01:54:43.000 I don't think that that is necessarily an outright disqualifier for desalination anyway.

01:54:49.000 But I am still curious.

01:54:50.000 I feel like there's still going to be an upper threshold of how much water we can be extracting and using.

01:54:54.000 But, you know, for now, I do like the idea.

01:54:55.000 I've been to the plants.

01:54:56.000 I've seen them.

01:54:56.000 They're really fascinating.

01:54:57.000 Have you been to the one in California or Israel?

01:54:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:00.000 I was just looking at a video on that.

01:55:02.000 It's cool, right?

01:55:02.000 No, I haven't been there.

01:55:03.000 I want to go there.

01:55:04.000 It's like a whole bunch, it's crazy.

01:55:07.000 Water is forced at high pressure through all of these hundreds of tubes.

01:55:11.000 It is ridiculous, the filtration they have.

01:55:14.000 It's cool. 0.63

01:55:15.000 And then you actually can watch the brine get ejected.

01:55:18.000 And then we talked to an environmental group who said their concern is the brine runoff.

01:55:22.000 But let's get some more of these questions.

01:55:24.000 Whatever we do, though, we have to look at that.

01:55:26.000 And I think we can come up with the solutions.

01:55:29.000 If the solution is the brine, we can come up with a solution for that.

01:55:32.000 We have to have water.

01:55:33.000 Here's a spicy one for you.

01:55:35.000 Okay.

01:55:36.000 Shiloh Jorgensen says, what's your stance on abortion, weak cutoff and whatnot?

01:55:41.000 I am pro-life and I am 100% pro-life.

01:55:45.000 If you can convince me that killing a baby is okay, then maybe I'll change my mind.

01:55:53.000 But there's a child.

01:55:56.000 It's so radical that we have convinced our young people for a couple generations now that it's okay to take the life of their unborn in the womb. 0.92

01:56:06.000 We've got mothers taking the life of the baby in their womb. 1.00

01:56:09.000 And we've convinced them that that's healthcare.

01:56:11.000 That's not healthcare.

01:56:12.000 What about medical issues?

01:56:14.000 If there's a medical issue with the baby or the mother, do you think there should be exceptions in that regard?

01:56:19.000 Well, if the mother's life is at risk, yeah.

01:56:21.000 I mean, we don't want to lose moms.

01:56:24.000 But that's not really what I think.

01:56:25.000 I think that's real rare when that's happening.

01:56:27.000 This is the challenge I have.

01:56:29.000 And I say, you know, for anti-establishment, anti-state reasons, I find myself pro-choice because I don't like the idea of I don't know how you actually would implement... Would there be a government arbiter or there be some kind of government regulation for when it comes to a woman getting approval for an abortion for a medical reason?

01:56:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:56:50.000 Well, we're trying to bring it back to the states.

01:56:52.000 We had the judiciary decide and the people have been taken out of that equation.

01:56:57.000 I think that's wrong, obviously.

01:56:59.000 You know, Brett Kavanaugh said, how is this a court decision?

01:57:01.000 It's the legislature that needs to deal with it.

01:57:02.000 And I'm like, he's right.

01:57:03.000 You've got to get back to that.

01:57:05.000 The Constitution.

01:57:05.000 I mean, it was set up and it was pretty much perfect.

01:57:09.000 So I'm pro-life.

01:57:09.000 Yeah.

01:57:11.000 I'm unapologetically pro-life.

01:57:13.000 When you hold a baby in your arm, I don't know if any of you have kids here.

01:57:15.000 Nope.

01:57:16.000 No, I don't.

01:57:17.000 Please do.

01:57:18.000 Come on.

01:57:20.000 Come on, Tim.

01:57:21.000 What's going on here?

01:57:22.000 You've got a girlfriend now, right?

01:57:23.000 Yeah.

01:57:23.000 And you know, I think I just work 16 hour days and that's probably the problem.

01:57:28.000 Okay.

01:57:28.000 Well, don't miss out on that.

01:57:29.000 Don't miss out on that.

01:57:30.000 You'll regret that.

01:57:32.000 Definitely.

01:57:32.000 Yeah.

01:57:33.000 That's what everybody says in their deathbed.

01:57:34.000 It's the most amazing thing.

01:57:35.000 My regret is I only had two kids.

01:57:37.000 I kind of fell into the hole.

01:57:38.000 I wish I would have had more kids coming from a family of nine.

01:57:42.000 And you know, there are options.

01:57:45.000 People go, what if you can't afford the baby? 0.96

01:57:47.000 You know, there's help out there.

01:57:48.000 There truly is.

01:57:49.000 And if you really say, I'm pregnant.

01:57:52.000 I don't want this baby.

01:57:53.000 Every state has a safe haven law now.

01:57:56.000 If you're pregnant and you say, I don't want this child, you can, no questions asked, give that baby away. 0.99

01:58:03.000 But it's not the baby's fault.

01:58:05.000 It's not the baby's fault.

01:58:06.000 And we need to really, I think if we're a country that finds it okay to take, to kill a baby in the mother's womb, we got some real problems. 0.70

01:58:17.000 Here's a, here's a good one. 0.84

01:58:18.000 Simple.

01:58:19.000 Oscar Miranda says, how will you secure the border with no support from the federal government?

01:58:25.000 Well, we've got the materials down there.

01:58:26.000 Let's go down there and start securing it. 1.00

01:58:28.000 Start building the damn fence. 1.00

01:58:30.000 I mean, really. 1.00

01:58:30.000 You're going to build a wall? 1.00

01:58:32.000 Yeah.

01:58:32.000 You said fence.

01:58:33.000 No, Arizona.

01:58:34.000 Arizona is a complex state and people don't understand this.

01:58:37.000 We have, I think, only 20 miles of President Trump's wall to complete.

01:58:42.000 I'm hearing that.

01:58:43.000 Wait, wait, 20 miles and it's done for Arizona?

01:58:45.000 Yes, but we also have, we also have an Indian reservation on Odom Reservation.

01:58:50.000 So that's sovereign land.

01:58:51.000 We can't just go on there and say we're building a wall on your nation.

01:58:54.000 So we have some complexities.

01:58:56.000 But we've got, I was down at the border, and within five minutes of arriving and stepping out of the vehicle, people were walking over.

01:59:04.000 Under Joe Biden's policy, we had, President Trump's policy, Remain in Mexico policy, was the best border policy I've ever seen in my 27 years covering Arizona.

01:59:14.000 It worked.

01:59:15.000 And Joe Biden came in on day one and pulled that.

01:59:18.000 And now we're seeing a crisis.

01:59:19.000 We need to build the wall.

01:59:21.000 First of all, we need to sue the federal government for failing to protect us.

01:59:24.000 And while that lawsuit is working its way through the system, let's go down and start building the wall.

01:59:28.000 We have many, many miles of Arizona state land we could be building it on.

01:59:34.000 And let's let's finish these little gaps.

01:59:36.000 They're coming through a funnel where there's a gap in the president's wall.

01:59:40.000 And it is on federal land.

01:59:41.000 But let's build the wall anyway.

01:59:42.000 What's Joe Biden going to do?

01:59:44.000 Arrest a sitting governor?

01:59:46.000 I mean, honestly, but we have to have... You think he would?

01:59:52.000 I would welcome that challenge.

01:59:53.000 We're not that far away.

01:59:54.000 I would welcome that challenge because he's failing at his duty.

01:59:58.000 The federal government is failing us in Arizona.

02:00:00.000 They are to protect us and they're not doing it.

02:00:03.000 He's failing across the board, the entire board.

02:00:05.000 Well, absolutely.

02:00:06.000 Yeah.

02:00:06.000 But considering you're running for Arizona, I think, you know, that's your...

02:00:09.000 Yeah, so I think we start building the wall.

02:00:11.000 We start building the wall.

02:00:12.000 And when I said fence, you caught that.

02:00:13.000 But if we can't afford it, people say, wait a minute, there's no money for it.

02:00:17.000 Well, there's a couple ways we could do it.

02:00:18.000 If they say we can't afford it, an Israeli fence, okay, President Trump's wall costs $20 million a mile. 0.56

02:00:25.000 I believe that was the figure.

02:00:27.000 An Israeli type fence is $1 million a mile.

02:00:31.000 So we just need to get a barrier up, a very strong barrier to keep people from coming in.

02:00:36.000 They're coming in from where there's a gap in the wall. 0.98

02:00:38.000 It's the stupidest thing to me when I was reading all these arguments. 0.99

02:00:41.000 They were like, the wall's pointless because most immigrants fly here anyway and then just stay here. 1.00

02:00:46.000 And I'm like, that's not Trump's argument.

02:00:47.000 Trump's argument was like smuggling and drugs.

02:00:50.000 And they were like, yeah, well, you can climb over it.

02:00:52.000 I'm like, sure, but most can't.

02:00:55.000 Like, I don't know what you're saying.

02:00:55.000 Like, they kept saying the walls don't work.

02:00:57.000 And I'm like, quite literally, they do.

02:00:59.000 In Greece, they built a wall.

02:01:01.000 I think in Greece, they put up a three meter chain link fence.

02:01:04.000 That was it.

02:01:05.000 And then all of a sudden, illegal immigration dropped by like 90%.

02:01:08.000 Well, and while we're building it, we can put up whatever barrier we can, if we have to do bar.

02:01:12.000 Whatever we can, we've got to get these areas that they're coming through blocked.

02:01:16.000 But we also need, we know we have an issue, not an issue, we have a sovereign nation sitting on our border that spans Arizona and Mexico and most people don't realize that.

02:01:24.000 We can't just go on to a sovereign nation and build a wall.

02:01:27.000 So we need to make sure that our law enforcement along the counties that are surrounding this area where the drugs and people are coming in, I'm talking to sheriffs who say we don't have money in our budget for overtime.

02:01:39.000 We need overtime right now because we've got so much coming across the border.

02:01:43.000 So we need to take this $1.6 billion the feds have given us for COVID relief, send a bunch of it down to our sheriffs along the border to pay overtime, and I think we should enable them to deputize Arizonans who are willing and able to help secure the border.

02:01:58.000 We've got a lot of veterans, a lot of former law enforcement, a lot of patriotic Arizonans who want to help and create, you know, a posse and help out.

02:02:08.000 Alright, we'll just try and do a couple more.

02:02:10.000 Lone Wolf asks, do you have any plans to combat social media censorship and narrative propaganda?

02:02:15.000 And what can those of us not in Arizona do to support you without simultaneously supporting the GOP's bank account?

02:02:21.000 They can come right to CarryLake.com and make a donation.

02:02:25.000 I am supported and I'm funded by the people of Arizona, not the swamp.

02:02:29.000 Does that not go through WinRed?

02:02:32.000 They can send a check if they want to go that route.

02:02:35.000 I understand what they're saying.

02:02:36.000 Yes, some people have a real problem with WinRed.

02:02:38.000 And you can send a check.

02:02:40.000 I know that's kind of... Do people still write checks?

02:02:42.000 I know they do.

02:02:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:02:43.000 My son does checks.

02:02:43.000 Yeah, we get checks as well.

02:02:45.000 And we appreciate that because we don't lose any percentage to that.

02:02:48.000 Can they PayPal you directly?

02:02:49.000 Is that legal?

02:02:50.000 That's a good question.

02:02:51.000 Can I ask my people?

02:02:53.000 Can they Bitcoin you?

02:02:54.000 We're going to start that soon.

02:02:56.000 Bitcoin?

02:02:57.000 Can they Bitcoin you?

02:02:57.000 Oh, apparently we're going to start that soon.

02:02:59.000 Wow.

02:03:00.000 I'm told.

02:03:01.000 Checks are easier to track and that's why people use WinRed.

02:03:04.000 People go, I don't want my name.

02:03:05.000 And you know, you have to give your name and you have to give your occupation.

02:03:08.000 This is part of kind of the rules of campaign.

02:03:11.000 But I think with WinRed, it's like that gives a percentage to the GOP as a whole or something.

02:03:16.000 I'm not entirely sure.

02:03:17.000 I know ActBlue is kind of like that.

02:03:20.000 What was the first part of his question?

02:03:21.000 I missed it.

02:03:21.000 Oh, plans to combat social media censorship and narrative propaganda.

02:03:26.000 I want to outlaw censorship in Arizona.

02:03:27.000 You know, we're a Second Amendment state, and I want to be a First Amendment state.

02:03:32.000 It's sad that we have to— First Amendment sanctuary, pardon me.

02:03:35.000 It's sad that we should have to even have these sanctuary counties and cities and states.

02:03:40.000 The Constitution should just be upheld everywhere.

02:03:44.000 But we need to start finding these companies that are censoring people.

02:03:49.000 We have free speech in this country, and until we come and fight back against these tech tyrants who are making a gazillion dollars, we've got to start fining them for censoring Americans.

02:04:01.000 People go, oh, this is a private company.

02:04:03.000 This is the town square.

02:04:05.000 Can you imagine if in the old days, you guys don't probably don't remember the old, you know, wall phone, the kitchen phone.

02:04:10.000 Oh, of course.

02:04:11.000 If they heard Tim talking to Luke and they didn't like what the phone company didn't like what you two were talking about, they just cut your line.

02:04:19.000 That's what we're talking about.

02:04:20.000 It would have been a global outrage in the 80s if that had happened.

02:04:24.000 I miss that.

02:04:24.000 I'm starting to really miss the kitchen phone, by the way.

02:04:27.000 It felt a lot more secure.

02:04:28.000 My mom's still got one.

02:04:30.000 Keep talking in the future about the censorship stuff, because I feel like Having the government decide what companies can make their

02:04:39.000 own terms of service be is a bit fascist So but allowing them full reign to do whatever they want

02:04:43.000 seems to be failing so that we've got to find some other method

02:04:47.000 I'm looking at freeing the software code of large social networks so that other people can spin up a version of the

02:04:52.000 network like Twitter They can have their own Twitter with their own terms of service that will interlock with the other Twitter so you can still follow people from either network.

02:05:00.000 If this Twitter wants to ban you, they can, but you still have your Twitter network.

02:05:03.000 We'll just do that with the Yon Foundation.

02:05:05.000 A lot of people are starting up social media, new platforms.

02:05:10.000 It's just a matter of finding the one that everybody wants to be on.

02:05:12.000 I don't know why anybody wants to be on Twitter.

02:05:14.000 I'm on it.

02:05:14.000 It's a cesspool.

02:05:16.000 It's full of bots.

02:05:18.000 Right, right, right.

02:05:19.000 I want to get one one one last very important one I'm sorry

02:05:22.000 I couldn't get to every single one and I was definitely trying not to avoid the spicier ones 1.00

02:05:25.000 But I will just first by start by saying Where we consider, you know having our business and opening

02:05:30.000 up new studios because we're doing a bunch of new shows Social media censorship protections is one of the biggest

02:05:35.000 issues. So we've looked at Florida when just DeSantis is like, we're going to look into this.

02:05:39.000 I'm like, maybe we set up a headquarters in Florida.

02:05:41.000 So that's a good thing.

02:05:42.000 But there's one, there's one other thing.

02:05:43.000 Uh, yeah.

02:05:44.000 Right.

02:05:44.000 If you do that, one other thing though, Caleb B says, and I'll tell you this,

02:05:48.000 this one could be very big for me moving to Arizona or setting up shop there.

02:05:51.000 Will you nullify the NFA and other federal gun laws pertaining to

02:05:55.000 suppressors like other States have proposed?

02:05:57.000 What if the feds start interfering?

02:05:59.000 Well, I'm all about pushing back against the feds right now.

02:06:02.000 I mean, we've got 3,000 miles away from Arizona.

02:06:05.000 The feds are telling us how to live our life, what to say, when we can work, what we can buy. 0.87

02:06:09.000 You know, it's just ridiculous.

02:06:11.000 I am not for adding additional gun laws to Arizona.

02:06:16.000 So in Texas, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Luke.

02:06:18.000 Oh, I think you're going to talk about the intrastate versus interstate.

02:06:21.000 Yeah, Texas, I think they said, we have our own suppressors.

02:06:24.000 You can buy them.

02:06:25.000 The National Firearms Act does not apply to Texas-made suppressors for Texas citizens.

02:06:29.000 So I think that's basically what they're- That's what he's getting at.

02:06:31.000 Yeah, like in Arizona- I do like that idea.

02:06:34.000 It's funny.

02:06:34.000 I wonder if this is the same person who wrote me recently.

02:06:37.000 I like the idea of that.

02:06:39.000 I'd like to look more into it.

02:06:40.000 I don't want to sit here, you know, after a couple hours and go, yeah, I'm all for that.

02:06:44.000 I like the idea of it.

02:06:45.000 It's not being sold outside of Texas.

02:06:47.000 It's being sold... So why is the federal government taking a role in that?

02:06:52.000 And there's an argument about, oh, but someone could take it here and go there.

02:06:54.000 Well, that would be committing a crime the federal government can actually stop if that's the case.

02:06:58.000 My thing is, you know what I want to see?

02:06:59.000 I want to see Republicans saying it's not about new gun laws.

02:07:02.000 It's about repealing bad gun laws, too.

02:07:04.000 Is repealing the NFA realistic?

02:07:06.000 It's the right thing to do.

02:07:07.000 Is it realistic, or is it just kind of like a pie?

02:07:09.000 If it's going to happen, it'll happen in Arizona.

02:07:11.000 We are a truly, purely pro-two-way state.

02:07:16.000 And it is a state where you can come and you can protect yourself, you can protect your family, you can buy ammo.

02:07:23.000 I mean, in California, you can't even buy ammo.

02:07:25.000 It's like you've got a worthless piece of metal.

02:07:27.000 That doesn't do anything.

02:07:28.000 So I'll just, just a very simplified final question.

02:07:31.000 You would be in favor.

02:07:32.000 I know you're the governor, so you can't just do this.

02:07:33.000 It's up to the legislature, but you would be in favor of repealing gun laws in Arizona.

02:07:37.000 Absolutely.

02:07:38.000 Wonderful.

02:07:39.000 I mean, we, we, again, if people act, the governor does have a lot of power, but you have to work with the legislature and we've taken the legislature out.

02:07:46.000 That's where we got in trouble with our election.

02:07:49.000 We have to follow the constitution.

02:07:51.000 The, the legislature is, there's a process for laws to happen or laws to be repealed.

02:07:56.000 And I'm wanting to work with our legislature more than the governor we have now who never goes down, never talks to the men and women who are working in the legislature.

02:08:05.000 We've got to have a relationship there so that we're not wasting a bunch of time.

02:08:08.000 They're not passing a bunch of bills that I wouldn't even consider signing.

02:08:13.000 I believe I will be the most pro-2A governor of Arizona, maybe in the country.

02:08:18.000 And I'll tell you this, too.

02:08:19.000 A lot of people need to understand this.

02:08:20.000 Young leftists are pro-2A. 0.64

02:08:22.000 Absolutely.

02:08:23.000 It's the establishment liberal Democrat types who don't want guns.

02:08:26.000 But young people are absolutely on the left and the right being like, this is our right and we should be able to exercise it.

02:08:31.000 So we've gone a bit over.

02:08:33.000 So I'll just say thank you so much for coming.

02:08:35.000 Is there any final thoughts you wanted to add?

02:08:38.000 I'd love to invite you to bring your company to Arizona.

02:08:42.000 Give me a good reason.

02:08:43.000 Win the race!

02:08:45.000 We'll work on it.

02:08:46.000 I'm running for office because I truly love the state of Arizona.

02:08:51.000 I'm so worried about us turning into a blue state, into a state that's like California.

02:08:56.000 And we have a movement afoot in Arizona.

02:08:59.000 We have a lot of excitement.

02:09:00.000 We are going to have massive numbers of people coming to vote.

02:09:04.000 and they're gonna come out because of our movement.

02:09:07.000 They see somebody in me that they know, they trust, who loves the state,

02:09:10.000 who's doing this for pure motives, and we don't want career politicians.

02:09:15.000 We're done with them.

02:09:16.000 They come in on day one, and they have 20, 30 years of political favors.

02:09:20.000 I don't have any political favors.

02:09:21.000 My special interest group, it's massive, and it's the people of Arizona.

02:09:25.000 My final thought on this, Trump was the first, but hearing you and seeing what you're doing so far,

02:09:33.000 and when you win, we'll see what things you do that deserve criticism, but bringing about

02:09:39.000 a lot of what Trump's policies were, America first, the working class, these things.

02:09:43.000 doing it articulately, whereas Trump was a bit bombastic, this is the evolution I

02:09:47.000 think we need. Because I've said, look I know a lot of people who can't get over

02:09:50.000 Trump's personality, but if you take his policies and you get the right person

02:09:54.000 who's straightforward, honest, and direct, and tells the media off but is tactful,

02:09:57.000 that's a landslide victory.

02:09:59.000 Yeah, somebody said you're like Trump, a little soft around the edges.

02:10:02.000 That's a great compliment.

02:10:02.000 I said, OK, that's great.

02:10:03.000 And I do take on the media and I will take on the media.

02:10:06.000 I worked in the media.

02:10:07.000 I know their tricks.

02:10:08.000 Go to my Rumble page.

02:10:09.000 Rumble.

02:10:10.000 K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E. 0.99

02:10:10.000 Carrie Lake. 0.99

02:10:13.000 I've gone after CNN, NBC.

02:10:15.000 If you want to interview me and you're with the media, I will fight back.

02:10:19.000 I will fight back.

02:10:20.000 And we have to start fighting back.

02:10:22.000 Because it's not just, oh, they're biased.

02:10:22.000 All right.

02:10:25.000 They're hurting this country.

02:10:27.000 Yeah, I completely agree.

02:10:28.000 That's what drives me a lot.

02:10:29.000 We start with indoctrination from K-12, then it's the cherry on top when you get more indoctrination in the universities, and then if you didn't get indoctrinated enough, the media finishes it up.

02:10:39.000 Agreed.

02:10:40.000 Alright everybody, that about does it.

02:10:42.000 It's Friday night.

02:10:43.000 We're all going to hang out and have a good time.

02:10:44.000 Thanks so much for watching.

02:10:45.000 Make sure you support us over at TimCast.com.

02:10:48.000 We usually do the Green Room special episodes on Fridays, so that's like behind-the-scenes stuff.

02:10:52.000 I don't know if we have one today.

02:10:54.000 After the holidays, things slow down a little bit and we've got to pick up speed.

02:10:57.000 But thanks so much for the support.

02:10:58.000 Smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends.

02:11:01.000 You can follow us at TimCastIRL everywhere, basically everywhere.

02:11:04.000 And you can follow me at TimCast.

02:11:06.000 Carrie, do you want to shout out social media and your website?

02:11:08.000 CarrieLake, K-A-R-R-I-L-A-K-E dot com is my website.

02:11:12.000 Go there to see where I stand on all of the issues.

02:11:14.000 It's all laid out.

02:11:15.000 You can make a donation if you want.

02:11:18.000 I'm funded by the people, not the swamp.

02:11:20.000 And I'm also on Carrie Lake on Twitter.

02:11:22.000 I'm at THE Carrie Lake on Facebook.

02:11:24.000 Is anybody still on Facebook?

02:11:25.000 Barely.

02:11:26.000 Barely.

02:11:27.000 Can't get any traction in that place anymore.

02:11:29.000 I'm on the Carrie Lake, apparently somebody has my name, and then Instagram as well.

02:11:34.000 So to continue the baby talk just really quickly I want to have seven children and you could help me do that by supporting me on LukeUncensored.com.

02:11:42.000 LukeUncensored.com.

02:11:43.000 Seven Radowskis running around. 1.00

02:11:45.000 We could do this.

02:11:46.000 You will never regret that, Luke.

02:11:49.000 Because you support me, I'm here.

02:11:50.000 Thanks for having me.

02:11:51.000 I think you're also going to get four dogs.

02:11:52.000 I can feel it.

02:11:53.000 At least in your future.

02:11:55.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

02:11:56.000 You can catch me at IanCrossland.net.

02:11:57.000 Carrie, fantastic having you.

02:11:59.000 Great to meet you.

02:11:59.000 Thank you so much.

02:12:00.000 It was such a pleasure.

02:12:00.000 Really good to see you.

02:12:02.000 That's it.

02:12:03.000 See you later.

02:12:04.000 I kind of want to go over to Luke's house some afternoon and see what is going on.

02:12:08.000 Are you going to be part of those seven babies?

02:12:10.000 Me?

02:12:10.000 No.

02:12:12.000 Where is this going?

02:12:13.000 Are you trying to join a harem here? 0.98

02:12:15.000 No, no, no.

02:12:16.000 I just want to see what the chaos is like and see Atlas and all her siblings and all the little Brudowskis. 1.00

02:12:21.000 That sounds terrifying and fun.

02:12:22.000 So I am Sour Patch Lads on Twitter.

02:12:24.000 You guys are welcome to follow me.

02:12:25.000 Thank you so much for joining us tonight, Gary.

02:12:28.000 And that about wraps it up for this week.

02:12:29.000 We'll see you all on Monday.

02:12:30.000 Thanks so much for hanging out.

02:12:32.000 We'll see you all next time.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 04, 2021

Timcast IRL - DeSantis Plans Civilian Military As Tensions Rise Between States & Biden w-Kari Lake

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