Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - CNN Lost NINETY PERCENT Of Its Key Audience, Narrative COLLAPSES w-Batya Ungar-Sargon

00:00:00.000 Yeah.

00:00:06.000 CNN's ratings are down 90%.

00:00:11.000 Wow, that's bad.

00:00:12.000 You know, a lot of people like to rag on CNN and MSNBC saying, look how, look, look, their ratings are going down, this proves everyone hates them.

00:00:18.000 And I often would say something like, yeah, but let's be real, like after an election year, everybody's ratings take a big drop.

00:00:25.000 And, you know, I'd like to point out, like even our views went down, you know, during, in 2020, it was crazy.

00:00:31.000 We had like 150,000 people watching on an episode talking about politics.

00:00:36.000 And I try to make sure we're being, you know, fair and reasonable when we mock mainstream and corporate press.

00:00:42.000 But now I think it's fair to actually point out their ratings are abysmal.

00:00:45.000 They can't, CNN's getting like 73,000 viewers in the key demo, prime time.

00:00:52.000 We get half a million on YouTube and we're just some like internet yokels

00:00:57.000 complaining to cameras.

00:00:59.000 That's fantastic.

00:01:00.000 CNN, they're on the way out.

00:01:02.000 The narrative is busted.

00:01:03.000 It's not working anymore and we're gonna have a really good time ragging on the press.

00:01:06.000 We've also got a bunch of crazy news.

00:01:08.000 Apparently Ronald McDonald House is kicking out kids because they're not vaccinated.

00:01:12.000 We got this crazy report from Bloomberg.

00:01:15.000 EU regulators saying that vaccines, the booster shots, too many, can actually cause problems for the immune system, similar to what we saw from the New York Times.

00:01:24.000 So as always, we say, make sure you talk to a medical professional.

00:01:27.000 Don't take anything we say as advice.

00:01:28.000 But that's a crazy report to come from Bloomberg.

00:01:31.000 And then a similar report come from New York Times.

00:01:32.000 So we're going to talk all about this.

00:01:35.000 Joining us today is Bhatia Anger Sargon, no relation to Sargon of Akkad.

00:01:40.000 That we know.

00:01:41.000 That we know, yeah, sure.

00:01:42.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:01:44.000 Sure, yes.

00:01:45.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:01:46.000 I'm so thrilled to be here with all of you guys.

00:01:48.000 I'm a big, big fan of Tim's, so I'm really excited to be here.

00:01:52.000 My name is Bhatia Angusargan.

00:01:54.000 I'm the Deputy Opinion Editor of Newsweek and the author of a book called Bad News, How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy that I'm sure we're going to get into and just thrilled to be here.

00:02:04.000 It's perfect too because, you know, we get this report on CNN collapsing, and we have you booked at the same time.

00:02:08.000 It's just very often we get guests that just align with these stories.

00:02:11.000 We got Luke hanging out.

00:02:12.000 I say it's 10% too little.

00:02:13.000 I think we need 100% ratings to go down at CNN, but that's just my own personal perspective.

00:02:19.000 And if you're looking for a synopsis of what actually happened during the last two years, I do believe the shirt that I'm wearing Take the cake for it, as it says.

00:02:28.000 Fauci lied.

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00:02:34.000 And because you do, I'm here.

00:02:36.000 I'm excited for this conversation.

00:02:37.000 It should be fun.

00:02:38.000 Thanks for coming.

00:02:38.000 Well, hello, everyone.

00:02:39.000 Ian Crosland here, burning the midnight oil, building free software with an amazing team of developers.

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00:03:02.000 Amen to that.

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00:05:56.000 But now, Let's get into that news.

00:05:58.000 Here's the story from the Daily Mail.

00:06:00.000 Tuning out!

00:06:01.000 Viewership at Scandal Plagued CNN plummets by as much as 90% from last year in both overall audience and in their advertiser coveted 25 to 54 demographic.

00:06:14.000 I'm smiling right now.

00:06:16.000 Or I'm holding back laughing, to be honest.

00:06:18.000 They say the network averaged just 548,000 viewers during the week of January 3rd, a precipitous drop from the nearly 2.7 million viewers from the same week in 2021.

00:06:29.000 CNN in the last year has been plagued by high-profile scandals.

00:06:34.000 Critics have slammed network boss Jeff Zucker over the declining ratings.

00:06:39.000 Is where it gets crazy.

00:06:40.000 Let me read this.

00:06:41.000 Where's that good number I want to see?

00:06:42.000 Here we go.

00:06:43.000 CNN saw an 86% decline in the much desirable 25 to 54 demo with a paltry 113,000 tuned in last week compared to the 822,000 CNN averaged a year ago.

00:06:48.000 with a paltry 113,000, 113,000 tuned in last week compared to the 822,000 CNN averaged a year ago.

00:06:57.000 Wow.

00:06:58.000 If you want to understand how bad that is, you can just look at our videos and they'll have

00:07:04.000 350 to 500,000 views.

00:07:07.000 That doesn't show you the live viewer count on these shows, which is often around 250,000 people who watch live.

00:07:14.000 YouTube does this weird system where they're separated, there's different analytics for the live stream versus the people watching the VOD version.

00:07:21.000 But I will just tell you, our audience is like 90% key demographic.

00:07:27.000 So if we're getting half a million people per night and CNN's getting none, well, I guess it's good news.

00:07:33.000 The narrative is breaking.

00:07:34.000 The Matrix is shattering.

00:07:36.000 People are starting to get away from corporate press BS.

00:07:40.000 And while that sounds really good, I still have to point out CNN gets propped up on YouTube and still gets a hundred million views per month.

00:07:46.000 Yeah, this also is a little, you know, an extreme title.

00:07:51.000 They say as much as 90% because they're talking about an election year.

00:07:55.000 Oh, no, no, they're not.

00:07:56.000 We're talking about 2021.

00:07:57.000 But they're comparing it to 2020 after the election.

00:08:00.000 Oh, right, right, right, right.

00:08:01.000 So, like, that was a hot news period those few weeks before January 20th, you know.

00:08:05.000 So to compare it to that specific day... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry.

00:08:08.000 I'm sorry.

00:08:08.000 I gotta correct you.

00:08:09.000 Sorry.

00:08:09.000 It is this week being compared to 2021.

00:08:13.000 So it is fair to say January 2021 was a big news.

00:08:16.000 COVID has warped my mind, dude.

00:08:19.000 I thought the election was last year.

00:08:20.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:08:23.000 Wait, Biden's been president for two years?

00:08:25.000 Tell me that this is not right.

00:08:27.000 Biden came in 2021.

00:08:28.000 I'm out of a time warp.

00:08:29.000 A year and a half.

00:08:32.000 That week.

00:08:33.000 You need to change your sleeping habits.

00:08:35.000 That's another story.

00:08:36.000 You might be right.

00:08:37.000 But who would have thought, you know, watching the deep state television is not popular.

00:08:41.000 Who would have thunk it?

00:08:42.000 And again, we also have to understand that overall, you know, when it comes to cable television, their viewership has been going down dramatically.

00:08:51.000 But I don't think CNN has been doing themselves any favors.

00:08:54.000 Especially with their lineups, especially with their scandals, especially with Lubin-Tubin, the Vanderbilt, Creepy Cuomo, and telling people not to read the WikiLeaks because it was illegal, telling people that there was definitely Russian collusion, obsessing about Donald Trump non-stop when he had two scoops of ice cream.

00:09:12.000 I mean, come on.

00:09:13.000 I can't believe, this is not surprising that they lost 90% of their viewership.

00:09:17.000 I'm surprised they didn't lose all of their viewership, to be completely honest with you, from what I've been seeing.

00:09:23.000 They no longer have the airport contract, but they're still in hotels.

00:09:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:27.000 So it won't be zero.

00:09:28.000 I haven't read your book yet, but in the book, did you follow CNN at all and go deep on them?

00:09:33.000 Yeah, the book opens with a scene at CNN with Don Lemon and Kirsten Powers, and they're sitting there talking about how Donald Trump winning is proof of the enduring and unabated white supremacy in America.

00:09:48.000 And you know, they're sitting there, these two people who are worth, you know, $10 million and $25 million a piece, and sneering and looking down their nose at a president's supporters, a president who won 67% of whites without a college degree, right?

00:10:01.000 And to me, that was sort of the opening primal scene because I think a lot of what we're seeing here, it looks like it's about politics.

00:10:09.000 It sometimes looks like it's about race, but actually it's about class.

00:10:13.000 Can you say the name of your book one more time for people who are just tuning in?

00:10:16.000 Sure, yeah.

00:10:17.000 It's called, I don't know why I can't say it without doing this, Bad News!

00:10:20.000 How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy.

00:10:23.000 Yes.

00:10:24.000 Yes.

00:10:24.000 Yeah.

00:10:25.000 And basically what happened over the course of the 20th century was journalism went from being a blue collar job to being the provenance of, you know, the most highly educated, very affluent top 10% elites.

00:10:38.000 And Tim, I think you represent what journalism used to be like the fathers of American journalism.

00:10:45.000 They were populist.

00:10:46.000 They were guys who dropped out of high school or didn't go to high school.

00:10:49.000 Working class guys who had to really struggle, who then went out to the people to report and crucially felt a deep sense of responsibility To those people to be responsive to them to give them what

00:11:03.000 they were asking for and to treat them with respect And that's been your career in journalism

00:11:08.000 And that's the opposite of what we see in places like CNN in the New York Times

00:11:10.000 I just I disagree with you because I would say you know a Vanderbilt Anderson Cooper definitely has more of a sense

00:11:17.000 of reality And more of a humbleness to him than any of other peasants

00:11:21.000 out there and clearly his his upbringing You know his affluence has brought him to be more

00:11:27.000 knowledgeable and more special than all of us But I wonder if it's not so much about

00:11:32.000 Upbringing or anything look Luke and I've had very different actually maybe even sort of similar

00:11:38.000 You know in some ways Luke coming from Poland a family that dealt with the Soviet era communist stuff in Poland and

00:11:44.000 coming to the United States and

00:11:45.000 It is populism. I think it's also I I

00:11:49.000 I want to be left alone, right?

00:11:52.000 I don't want anyone to be my boss.

00:11:54.000 I don't want to have a boss.

00:11:55.000 I don't want to be anyone's boss.

00:11:57.000 And here we are, somehow I have a company with employees.

00:11:59.000 But my attitude towards the news is, I'll just tell you and you do your thing.

00:12:03.000 Because I look at it this way.

00:12:06.000 If I got a neighbor, I don't want to be micromanaging and dealing with all of his problems.

00:12:11.000 I want to be able to be like, guy, the reason why you've got this problem here with this, you know, sewage leak is because you did these things.

00:12:17.000 Fix it and leave me alone.

00:12:19.000 Whereas you've got a lot of people who seem to think These journalists, particularly, and the establishment political class, let me just be in control of everyone's lives so it's easier that way.

00:12:31.000 Bloomberg wants to put a tax on sugary drinks that you can't buy them.

00:12:34.000 I don't have anything to do with it.

00:12:35.000 If you want to drink sugar drinks, you go ahead and do it.

00:12:37.000 I don't care.

00:12:38.000 I'll tell you it's bad for you, and then you can do whatever you want.

00:12:40.000 So I think that right there, there's a meme.

00:12:44.000 Where it shows a bunch of people, and they're all yelling, and then it shows someone at a podium, and the journalist has got his back to the podium and he's bullhorning at the crowd, repeating what the podium says, and then it says the way journal- and it's like that's how journalism is, how it's supposed to be, is the guy with the bullhorn standing in front of the people yelling at the guy with the podium.

00:13:05.000 But what you're describing is contempt, right?

00:13:08.000 My book is about contempt.

00:13:09.000 It's about how the media, which is supposed to be on the side of the little guy fighting for the little guy against the guy at the podium, became on the side of the guy At the podium because they go to the same schools as millionaires and billionaires and they live in the same neighborhoods as people at the top of the food chain and politicians and their kids go to the same schools as all these other elites.

00:13:28.000 They are now on the side of power and they have immense amounts of contempt for the working class just dripping off of them.

00:13:35.000 I gotta say it, my favorite moment of the Donald Trump election cycle in 2015 was when he ordered that 30-day dry-aged steak well done with ketchup.

00:13:46.000 And I could see it the moment he did it.

00:13:49.000 Totally.

00:13:50.000 Regular, working class, middle Americans, whatever.

00:13:54.000 They go to the grocery store, they can't afford filet mignon, so they get a T-bone, they cook it through and put ketchup on it, because that's the way to make it taste better.

00:14:02.000 Trump knows this, and he was trying to have these people look at him and be like, that's how I do it. 0.99

00:14:06.000 And the media laughed, and they mocked him and talked about how stupid and uncouth he was, and it just made regular people hate the media. 0.99

00:14:15.000 They're like, you're not making fun of him, you're making fun of me. 1.00

00:14:17.000 I'm poor. 0.97

00:14:18.000 I can't afford your expensive trash with your fancy garlic and volcanic salt, wagyu beef or whatever like we had. 0.97

00:14:25.000 I mean, the way I say it, maybe you would see it a little bit differently, but I kind of want to ping off your perspective because being in the digital world, being at some of these events, I see two class of journalists. 0.97

00:14:34.000 There's one class that's kind of drug addicted with Substance abuse problems and another class that's the kind of snobby limousine liberals that think that they're better and know better what's for everyone else.

00:14:46.000 I don't see a distinction and very rarely do I see anyone kind of in the middle of that or anyone outside of those two categories.

00:14:53.000 Would you agree or disagree?

00:14:54.000 Well, I'll just give you some statistics.

00:14:57.000 So 92% of journalists in America today have a college degree, which is obscene because you can't teach journalism.

00:15:03.000 You know, you can't teach someone to do what you do, to be a good listener, to ask the right questions, to question your own biases, to be willing to be wrong.

00:15:10.000 You can.

00:15:11.000 Well, they're not.

00:15:12.000 When they're three years old.

00:15:13.000 Yeah.

00:15:15.000 A person learns a lot of these skills when they're very young.

00:15:18.000 So you take someone who's, you know, been brought up in a family that's well-off, maybe got help at their, you know, New York condominium, put them in college and then think they're gonna be able to listen and it's not gonna happen.

00:15:30.000 I went to college for journalism for a year, then switched over to theater.

00:15:33.000 But in the journalism thing, I got an opportunity to do my college TV station.

00:15:38.000 I did like sports for the TV station and special reporting.

00:15:40.000 And I also learned how to copyright, copy edit.

00:15:43.000 So they were teaching me structure, but not ethics.

00:15:46.000 No mention ever of ethics.

00:15:48.000 Right.

00:15:49.000 So 92% have a college degree.

00:15:51.000 The majority have a graduate degree, which is a purely vanity degree that costs $70,000.

00:15:56.000 To become a journalist in America today, you have to be able to take a starting salary of $30,000 a year, but 75% of those jobs are on the coast in the most expensive American cities, which means you have to come from money, essentially.

00:16:07.000 Like, everyone you see on your TV, everyone you read in the New York Times, These people come from money.

00:16:13.000 They are over-educated and they look down on you. 0.99

00:16:15.000 And I think that's what we're seeing is the American people are too smart for this garbage. 0.99

00:16:18.000 They are too smart for it and they're tuning it out. 0.98

00:16:20.000 I love it.

00:16:21.000 Thank you.

00:16:22.000 So much.

00:16:24.000 I grew up in a, you know, rough and tumble kind of a neighborhood in life.

00:16:29.000 Luke had his, you know, South Bronx and Poland and all that stuff.

00:16:32.000 So I think- Brooklyn.

00:16:33.000 South Brooklyn.

00:16:34.000 Yeah, sorry, Brooklyn.

00:16:35.000 So I think there's certainly something to like witnessing real life and hardship.

00:16:40.000 I have contempt for the elites who think they're smarter and better than everyone else when they're just people.

00:16:47.000 I know a lot of people and I've met a lot of people in my life who are wealthy and humble

00:16:50.000 and libertarian and be like, I'm never going to try and look, I've got, you know, thing

00:16:54.000 going for me.

00:16:55.000 I'm gonna let you do your thing because I don't want to press and I respect that.

00:16:58.000 But there are a lot of people who are like, well, my family knows better and I'm better.

00:17:02.000 And there's nothing more satisfying than to see snooty elites with their fancy degrees 1.00

00:17:07.000 who think they're smarter and better than everyone fail when they try to go into these

00:17:12.000 news organizations to tell people how to live, what to do, why they're smarter than you.

00:17:17.000 And then they can't figure out why they're laden with debt, why they're struggling to

00:17:20.000 find work, but they still think they're smarter.

00:17:22.000 And you know what? 1.00

00:17:23.000 I just sit back and say, if you weren't such an asshole, maybe I'd have some sympathy for 0.99

00:17:27.000 you and to all and to all of the people I've met who've got college degrees cause they 0.99

00:17:32.000 were told to do it and got massive student debt and are nice and realistic and willing

00:17:36.000 I have nothing but respect for them.

00:17:38.000 But there is this class of people that enters media where they just, the way they prove themselves is to get a job in the media so that they can be given access to a platform that they don't deserve, that they've not proven with merit, and then yell at you and talk about how much badder they are than you. 0.93

00:17:56.000 You're a bigot and you're racist. 0.92

00:17:58.000 And you voted for Donald Trump? 1.00

00:17:59.000 Well, certainly you're a white supremacist. 0.96

00:18:02.000 When in reality, it's probably some dude who's like, I lost my job. 0.96

00:18:06.000 My kids need food.

00:18:07.000 Donald Trump says he's going to bring my factory back.

00:18:09.000 And that was it.

00:18:10.000 And they don't want to listen to those people. 1.00

00:18:12.000 They're just stupid. 1.00

00:18:13.000 Learn to code. 1.00

00:18:14.000 Why don't you learn to code?

00:18:16.000 And then when you speak up and say, why don't you learn to code?

00:18:18.000 When they lose their jobs, Twitter bans you for it.

00:18:20.000 I can't stand these people.

00:18:21.000 They're elites. 0.96

00:18:23.000 They're pompous.

00:18:23.000 They think they're better than everybody.

00:18:25.000 So let me ask you this, maybe you don't want to answer this, but when you got to Vice, were you suddenly surrounded by exactly that type of person?

00:18:34.000 Mostly.

00:18:36.000 In 2013, so I actually met the Vice people in 2011 after Occupy.

00:18:42.000 And it was, Vice was a hole in the wall, man.

00:18:45.000 They apparently like took over an old skate shop or something.

00:18:48.000 I don't know the history of that building.

00:18:50.000 It was cool.

00:18:51.000 And that's why I liked him.

00:18:52.000 And that's why when I started saying, okay, now I'm going to take my skills and bring it to actual news, I went to Vice because it was punk rock.

00:18:59.000 They were, they were edgy.

00:19:01.000 They were nonpartisan.

00:19:02.000 The CEO of Vice went on Colbert and he was like, look, we don't, we don't, we're not Democrat.

00:19:06.000 We're not Republican.

00:19:07.000 We're just storytellers.

00:19:08.000 We're here to talk about what we see.

00:19:10.000 And I was like, thank you.

00:19:11.000 I don't care about this stuff.

00:19:13.000 But when I get in, I got in around the time it started turning into that.

00:19:17.000 And it's because they got money.

00:19:19.000 Murdoch came in, he gave him $70 million.

00:19:21.000 Then I watched one by one, the core crew of Vice get fired abruptly and replaced

00:19:26.000 with a New York media establishment individual, fresh out of college, with the Rolodex.

00:19:33.000 Some people went on, I'm gonna go work for Bloomberg, or they came from Bloomberg.

00:19:36.000 And then all of a sudden, things just started changing.

00:19:39.000 And I was just like, it's not the scrappy, edgy, hole-in-the-wall in Williamsburg.

00:19:43.000 Williamsburg was a dirt hole in New York.

00:19:46.000 It's probably why they set up there.

00:19:47.000 It was cheaper to be in New York, and it was cheap.

00:19:50.000 Well, they helped gentrify the area.

00:19:52.000 They bring in all this hipster youth, and then all of a sudden it's virtue signaling hipsters who think they're smarter than you, and they know it.

00:19:59.000 So I left.

00:20:00.000 And I went to a Disney company and not better.

00:20:06.000 So they promised it wasn't going to be woke.

00:20:08.000 They were like, we're going to be nice vice.

00:20:09.000 We're going to be like real.

00:20:10.000 You know, Fusion had a show about drug wars.

00:20:13.000 It was actually called Drug Wars.

00:20:14.000 And they tracked like federales and government agents going after the cartels and stuff.

00:20:19.000 And I was like, wow, that's cool stuff.

00:20:21.000 And then within six state months, they were like, new editor in chief.

00:20:24.000 We're going woke.

00:20:26.000 Everything we're going to do is going to be about wokeness.

00:20:27.000 And I'm like, what year was that?

00:20:29.000 Yeah, that tracks.

00:20:29.000 2014.

00:20:31.000 Well, so in 2014 is when I started, and then it was mid-2015, early to mid-2015, where they were like... What I think happened was they had one video about a transgender child that got a huge, it was a huge hit.

00:20:44.000 It got them like a hundred thousand views, and that was one of their first videos that actually got traffic.

00:20:48.000 And then all of a sudden they were like, that's it.

00:20:51.000 That's what young people want.

00:20:52.000 What I absolutely love about this is when you have these middle-aged marketing white dudes who don't know anything about what's going on, and so they were asked, like, what's 2016 gonna look like for Fusion?

00:21:05.000 And the guy goes, gender.

00:21:08.000 And they're like, and what does that mean?

00:21:09.000 He goes, we're just going to be heavily focused on gender.

00:21:14.000 No, seriously.

00:21:15.000 And people were like, I, I, I don't know what that means.

00:21:17.000 Do you know what you're saying?

00:21:20.000 They got a few, few big videos and they decided that was their audience.

00:21:23.000 And then I said, look, man, I, Luke and I, we went to Fukushima while I worked there.

00:21:28.000 I'm like, I go on the ground to like these conflict and crisis situations and film that and explore it.

00:21:33.000 What am I gonna do?

00:21:34.000 And so they tried to do some stuff, like I went to a weapons expo, and we looked at all the different, like, riot control weapons that pertain to, like, the protest movement stuff.

00:21:43.000 And we tested them out, but that video footage never made it out there, with me and Tim literally having tear gas, sitting in a chair, testing who's gonna sit there the longest, and this crazy military guy being like, okay, now we're gonna do this, and I'm like, okay.

00:21:57.000 We got tasered too!

00:21:58.000 Do you remember the tasering?

00:21:59.000 I think it tasered.

00:22:00.000 You got tasered?

00:22:01.000 The stomach.

00:22:02.000 Was it me or you?

00:22:02.000 There's a video.

00:22:03.000 You.

00:22:03.000 I think it tasered.

00:22:04.000 I think I got tasered.

00:22:05.000 Wait, where did you wake up after that?

00:22:07.000 He didn't have the gunshot, the firing one.

00:22:10.000 He had the one that you have to put towards your body.

00:22:11.000 I think it was only like 20,000 volts.

00:22:13.000 But I think, yeah.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:15.000 He hit me.

00:22:15.000 Yeah, it was me.

00:22:16.000 Yeah, I remember getting tasered.

00:22:17.000 The issue was, how long did you hold it?

00:22:19.000 The video never made it out to the general public.

00:22:21.000 This was when I was sleeping on like Tim Pool's couches when he was working for Disney.

00:22:24.000 I'll tell you why.

00:22:25.000 I'll tell you why.

00:22:26.000 So I go to the higher-ups and I and and they were talking we met this guy he was one of their specialists in weapons training and stuff and it turned out I don't want to say too much but this is a guy of experience to say the least international law enforcement government stuff and so I said can you talk to us about strategies for riot control and he's like, yes I can. And

00:22:46.000 then I said, we need to go somewhere where we can test all this stuff out. Is there maybe like a field

00:22:49.000 somewhere, you know, where in Miami area there's a lot of farmland. And they were like, you got

00:22:52.000 it. And I said, let's have this guy.

00:22:55.000 He couldn't, he was like, people can't know who I am because of the work I've done. I work behind

00:22:58.000 the scenes. I said, wear a mask. We'll have you wear a mask.

00:23:00.000 We'll have you do all this stuff.

00:23:02.000 We'll go in the middle of nowhere. So they, they, they give us the address and we're driving there

00:23:07.000 and I see, they're like, okay, we're here. And I'm looking around.

00:23:10.000 I'm like, this can't be right.

00:23:11.000 We're like a parking lot across the street from a McDonald's.

00:23:13.000 There's people everywhere.

00:23:14.000 I'm like, no, this is it.

00:23:15.000 And it was a garage.

00:23:16.000 And the guy comes out and I'm like, you expect us to let off tear gas and flashbangs in a parking lot of a McDonald's?

00:23:23.000 And that's what they did.

00:23:24.000 And I was like, dude, I don't want to have anything to do with this, man. 0.99

00:23:26.000 You're crazy. 0.97

00:23:28.000 They brought out a bunch of crazy equipment that made everything look really nuts. 0.99

00:23:31.000 The FBI showed up.

00:23:33.000 Yes, remember?

00:23:33.000 They did?

00:23:34.000 I put like an Instagram story or Snapchat story back then and then the FBI showed up there and then they're like, what's going on here?

00:23:42.000 And then the guy explained it and then they went away.

00:23:44.000 Oh wow.

00:23:45.000 I was on the phone actually.

00:23:46.000 I was on the phone like being like, what are you guys, what did you think this was going to be?

00:23:51.000 We're supposed to be looking at rubber bullets, foam rounds, tear gas, and we're in an urban parking lot.

00:23:56.000 There's people everywhere.

00:23:57.000 We can't do this.

00:23:58.000 And they were like, what's the problem?

00:23:59.000 And I was like, you want to take responsibility for someone getting tear gassed?

00:24:02.000 I'm not going to.

00:24:03.000 I don't want to be involved in that.

00:24:04.000 So yeah, never made it to TV.

00:24:06.000 That's hilarious.

00:24:07.000 So there's footage out there of me getting tasered that's denied to everyone. 0.99

00:24:11.000 Darn it. 0.99

00:24:12.000 I'm disappointed. 0.99

00:24:13.000 But that timeline makes a lot of sense because the great awokening in the media happened.

00:24:19.000 It started, it had a very, so sociologists have found that had like a very specific starting point, which was around 2011, 2012, when the New York Times erected its paywall, not coincidentally, that's when you started to see woke terminology start to just absolutely skyrocket across the major mainstream liberal news media.

00:24:41.000 So sociologists have literally trawled the archives of the New York Times and the Washington Post and NPR and the Atlantic and all of these outlets and they found that words like oppression, marginalization, the word people of color near the word oppression or marginalization, white privilege, it's like a hockey stick.

00:25:00.000 Like they were kind of like this until 2011 2012 they started to totally skyrocket and what happened in 2015 was white liberals their their opinion as it was polled by sociologists so public opinion among white liberals started to outpace public opinion of blacks and latinos in terms of how radical it was on issues of race.

00:25:25.000 So that that impact of the skyrocketing of the use of these terms in the liberal media by three years later four years later by 2015 it had this huge impact on public opinion of white liberals to where they became much more extreme in their views on race than blacks and latinos and started using this very academic language and that's kind of where the great awokening started.

00:25:45.000 Did you see that one study that showed liberals, white progressives, are the only racial group in the United States with an out-group preference?

00:25:52.000 Yes!

00:25:53.000 So what that means is people who are Hispanic or Latino slightly tend to prefer being around people who are Hispanic or Latino. 0.76

00:26:01.000 Black people, slightly.

00:26:02.000 It's like, I think, you know, 18% of 100.

00:26:04.000 So it's like, it's low, but it exists.

00:26:07.000 White conservatives slightly prefer to be around white conservatives, and liberals prefer not to be around white people.

00:26:14.000 Did you notice?

00:26:15.000 There's also a correlation with the graph that you were mentioning that I've been seeing online with, of course, Occupy Wall Street and some people theorizing that this was the corporate media's response towards people going against the big banks, going against the big institutions that have failed them, going against the banker bailouts that have redistributed wealth to the very rich, taking away from the very poor.

00:26:36.000 And from what I'm seeing, it's a perspective of, holy crap, people are catching on to what we're doing.

00:26:42.000 We need to divide and conquer them.

00:26:43.000 Therefore, let's inject this language, which will help create do that.

00:26:46.000 Do you think that that is a possible theory?

00:26:48.000 Okay, so I'll give you a less conspiratorial version.

00:26:52.000 And then you'll tell me if you if you find it convincing enough to abandon the more delicious conspiratorial version, which I could totally see why that's like a satisfying way to think about it.

00:27:01.000 And I totally agree.

00:27:03.000 That this great awokening moral panic about race is a distraction from the real divide in America, which is the disgusting levels of income inequality and the class divide.

00:27:11.000 So I agree with that part of it.

00:27:13.000 I do personally think from a from the point of view of the news media, this was much more about the digital revolution in terms of media.

00:27:22.000 I think it coincided with the New York Times erecting its paywall because what they started to do was what all of us in digital media do, which is be able to track What terms people clicked on, what terms made them close the browser, you know, what words made them share things, what words made them engage online.

00:27:37.000 And of course, engagement is the big measure of success for digital media.

00:27:41.000 And so I think that there's a much less kind of big picture.

00:27:45.000 There's just like a profit margin to where journalists have always been more liberal than Americans at large.

00:27:51.000 But here you had their corporation saying, no, no, no, chase that, you know, racial liberalism because our audience likes it.

00:27:56.000 I would even go just a little bit further and say maybe the algorithms that favored that were also manipulated because of that larger possible conspiracy.

00:28:03.000 But same reason.

00:28:04.000 Same reason.

00:28:05.000 We could also live in a reality where both are true at the same time.

00:28:07.000 Well, no, look, look, look.

00:28:08.000 So.

00:28:09.000 So I wasn't convincing enough to abandon the conspiracy theory.

00:28:11.000 It could be both.

00:28:11.000 No, you're right.

00:28:12.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:28:12.000 I'm kidding.

00:28:15.000 You're right.

00:28:15.000 Because I've talked about this, too.

00:28:15.000 Luke's wrong.

00:28:19.000 It's not just the media organizations were making money, it's that Facebook was as well.

00:28:23.000 Yes.

00:28:23.000 So Facebook incentivized, in their algorithms, terms like these.

00:28:28.000 Now I'm not saying, I know for a fact they literally said, we want this to appear more, but if the algorithm favors, if the algorithm is simply designed, if someone clicks something, show it more, then terms that made people angry, injustice, were more likely to be shared.

00:28:43.000 So this did a couple things.

00:28:45.000 All of a sudden, we saw the rise of the digital blog.

00:28:48.000 We saw the Huffington Post buzzfeed.

00:28:51.000 As I often explain, for those who have heard it, forgive me, but for those who haven't, if you write an article that says police are racist, you'll get X views.

00:28:58.000 If you write an article saying police are sexist, you'll get Y views.

00:29:01.000 But if you write an article saying police are sexist and racist, those two keywords gives you an exponential boost.

00:29:07.000 You'll get a bonus to the amount of traffic because when an article gets a substantial amount of play, the algorithm boosts it more.

00:29:14.000 So now that you're hitting two different communities, the anti-racism and the anti-sexism community, Facebook says, oh wow, this one got 100,000, show it to another 20,000, see what happens.

00:29:24.000 Meh, nothing.

00:29:24.000 This one got 100,000, do the same thing.

00:29:27.000 But when this article gets 200,000, whoa, show it to another 100,000, keep showing it.

00:29:31.000 That one's getting way more traffic than normal.

00:29:34.000 So the combination of terms gave rise to intersectionality, which was a big component in the precursor of the culture war, which then resulted in a lot of this, you know, wokeness.

00:29:44.000 But another really obvious component, you're familiar with GamerGate?

00:29:48.000 Yes.

00:29:49.000 So I can't tell you everything about GamerGate now nearly almost 10 years on.

00:29:53.000 What I can say is, A video game publication accusing a person of being racist makes no sense.

00:30:02.000 But what happens is, if you are tasked, hey, we're gonna make a video game website, what can you really write about?

00:30:09.000 Well, some of these sites would be like, okay, a new game came out, we got a new Zelda game, let's write all the tricks and tips, all of the items you can get, and then what?

00:30:21.000 Then what?

00:30:22.000 The next day you come into work and the editor goes, what are you going to write about?

00:30:25.000 Well, I just finished writing about the Zelda game and they're like, we need articles.

00:30:30.000 I don't care what's going on.

00:30:32.000 This developer tweeted a joke that's offensive.

00:30:35.000 Write it up.

00:30:36.000 And then all of a sudden they found the easiest way to get traffic was Can we accuse someone of being a bad person and it somehow relates to video games?

00:30:45.000 And then all of a sudden you have these outlets being like, if we're going to keep writing news every single day, we need an angle.

00:30:52.000 And that's a result of a dying company, a dying art form, because video game gameplay footage on YouTube took over.

00:30:59.000 So now if you want to watch gameplay review, you don't read about it, you watch it on TV.

00:31:05.000 There's an important question to answer here.

00:31:07.000 Does the algorithm run us or do we run the algorithm?

00:31:13.000 I would argue that there are people tied into a lot of these bigger big tech social media companies that are doing social human experimentation.

00:31:22.000 are doing psychological experiments just like Facebook has done and only conducted controlling our emotions and I

00:31:30.000 think there is even a bigger profit motive to make someone feel lonely to feel sad to feel depressed and I think there

00:31:37.000 is a correlation between our mental health decline and of course the onset and prominence of big tech social media so

00:31:45.000 I would say that I believe that both could be true but I think what is more prevalent is the algorithm running us.

00:31:52.000 That's my perspective.

00:31:53.000 That's how I see it from my experiences.

00:31:55.000 You see it differently, which I respect.

00:31:56.000 No, I agree with you.

00:31:58.000 It's not the people running us, it's the algorithm.

00:32:00.000 It's definitely a combination.

00:32:01.000 It's like a self-fulfilling creation.

00:32:03.000 We do have the article.

00:32:04.000 This is from The Guardian.

00:32:05.000 Facebook sorry, almost, for secret psychological experiment on users.

00:32:09.000 They've been doing this.

00:32:10.000 They're probably still doing it.

00:32:12.000 Facebook knows when you poop.

00:32:13.000 But what happens is, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, whoever makes an algorithm, they're aiming for an outcome they can't program for.

00:32:20.000 This is the danger of, I think, one of the big dangers of AI.

00:32:23.000 But so YouTube says, we want content on YouTube that is long form, with a high retention rate, that hits issues subject matter that people like.

00:32:32.000 How do we do that?

00:32:33.000 Okay, if someone clicks the video, that's a good sign.

00:32:36.000 If someone watches for a long time, that's a good sign.

00:32:38.000 And then we'll show everybody the same words that keep getting clicked.

00:32:41.000 What happens?

00:32:42.000 YouTube starts promoting Hitler doing Tai Chi with the Incredible Hulk singing nursery rhymes.

00:32:48.000 Yes.

00:32:48.000 Because it was babies who watched the most and just watched 100% of videos because they don't touch anything This is what happens when a human programs an algorithm and then lets it run.

00:32:59.000 The algorithm goes wild.

00:33:01.000 So we ended up, like everything we're seeing right now, Rachel Maddow, right?

00:33:06.000 Russia.

00:33:07.000 Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:33:07.000 It's called audience capture.

00:33:09.000 Rachel Maddow can't admit she was wrong about it, so she just elides the controversy.

00:33:13.000 She ignores it.

00:33:14.000 Now she's coming out and claiming that Republicans forged electoral documents The reality is, as is typical with any contentious election, Republican electors in 2020 filled out their electoral slates, sent them to the government, that's it.

00:33:32.000 The same thing happened in 1960 with Hawaii, Nixon, and Kennedy.

00:33:35.000 Well, Rachel Maddow could tell you the truth!

00:33:37.000 But then she won't get traffic.

00:33:39.000 Then her audience won't like what she has to say.

00:33:41.000 So she just plays into that narrative.

00:33:44.000 Humans become servants to the algorithm. 0.99

00:33:47.000 After the algorithm chooses nonsense to be popular, the human plays along with it and pushes that same garbage. 0.93

00:33:53.000 Okay, so I think I disagree with you guys.

00:33:54.000 I think that the, well, okay, from the point of view that I have, which is the point of view of elite media, or rather mainstream, you know, legacy media, to me, it seems like they have very much abandoned the idea of like mass readership.

00:34:09.000 The New York Times is no longer going for a mass readership.

00:34:13.000 They're going for Elite, highly educated liberals based on the subscriber model. 0.92

00:34:19.000 So now they only have to satisfy those.

00:34:22.000 I think right now they have 7 million.

00:34:24.000 We don't disagree.

00:34:24.000 We agree.

00:34:25.000 So but I think you can't like the when you have such a small everybody now all the liberal outlets, including CNN, all these people are going for the same.

00:34:34.000 They all they don't want all Americans watching.

00:34:36.000 They want 10 million affluent liberals like that. 0.98

00:34:40.000 And so it's those people are very specific in terms of what they're looking for.

00:34:45.000 We agree.

00:34:46.000 We're agreeing.

00:34:47.000 Yeah, I'm saying Rachel Maddow has a very small and specific audience that she can't betray.

00:34:51.000 So she'll say whatever needs to be said to keep them enthralled.

00:34:54.000 But that's humans.

00:34:55.000 That's not Facebook.

00:34:57.000 Well, no, what I mean is someone creates an algorithm.

00:35:00.000 The algorithm then generates a kind of content that people get attached to.

00:35:05.000 Rachel Maddow then sees, here's a market share I can take based upon the algorithmic manipulation.

00:35:10.000 So a better example is Black Lives Matter and police brutality. 0.99

00:35:15.000 Videos that generate outrage get more shares and more interactivity than anything else, and so Facebook was inundated with police brutality videos.

00:35:24.000 Police brutality accounts for a microscopic percentage of all police interactions, but they get clicks.

00:35:30.000 So you have a generation of kids.

00:35:32.000 This is the next component.

00:35:33.000 Outside of the media making money, you had kids who were 15, 16 years old at the dawn of Facebook.

00:35:41.000 They go on Facebook.

00:35:43.000 All they see is police brutality over and over and over again because it was making money for these companies.

00:35:48.000 Then, by the time they're out of college and they're 22, a few years later, it's 2012, 2013, and they are hypnotized, believing the entire world is police hunting down black people.

00:35:59.000 So their whole perspective is warped to an insane degree.

00:36:04.000 Rachel Maddow and people like her have found a captive audience who believe insane things that they can pander to.

00:36:09.000 Right, but I have to say, specifically on that example, I feel like that one is very much a double-edged sword.

00:36:14.000 Like, I don't believe that George Floyd's killer would be in prison if not for the algorithm doing that, because that would not have become a national story, and without it being a national story, would we have had that video?

00:36:27.000 Would it have gone that way?

00:36:28.000 And so I feel like it's such a double-edged sword there.

00:36:30.000 But should he be in prison?

00:36:32.000 Oh, I see.

00:36:33.000 Is there, though?

00:36:33.000 Really?

00:36:33.000 divide in this country between conservative...

00:36:35.000 Is there though?

00:36:36.000 There is, absolutely.

00:36:37.000 Really?

00:36:38.000 Oh, we've gone over that story to a great degree.

00:36:40.000 When the story first broke, we were all very much on the side of like, whoa, that was really

00:36:43.000 wrong of him to do.

00:36:45.000 And then when the body camera footage got released, we were like, wow, the media lied

00:36:48.000 to us about everything.

00:36:49.000 Noting, like...

00:36:50.000 With George Floyd?

00:36:51.000 Yeah, like, George Floyd was on a speedball.

00:36:54.000 He had high doses of methamphetamine, and what else did he have?

00:36:57.000 Nicotine, caffeine, fentanyl, and THC.

00:37:00.000 He was chewing on a speedball.

00:37:01.000 Five drugs.

00:37:02.000 Yeah, but he was strangled to death.

00:37:04.000 I mean... Yeah, technically, I think the cause of death was cardiac arrest, but that might have been due to asphyxiation.

00:37:09.000 No, it was strangulation.

00:37:10.000 There were two autopsies that came out.

00:37:12.000 The family's autopsy said it was strangulation, and then the state coroner said it was cardiac arrest.

00:37:16.000 No, but I watched the whole trial, and it was very clear that it was strangulation.

00:37:20.000 I mean, that wasn't even contested by his lawyer.

00:37:23.000 Well, it's not, I'm not trying to get into an argument.

00:37:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry, yeah, yeah.

00:37:26.000 I'm down a good rebuttal.

00:37:26.000 Because I'm willing, I'm willing to have the argument, you know, he should be, you know, manslaughter at the very least.

00:37:31.000 But the issue is that there's, it's not so clear cut.

00:37:36.000 And you have, you probably have the more conservative side of things saying it's not clear cut that he should be in jail.

00:37:43.000 One example is even in the trial, the use of force expert for the prosecution said that Chauvin would have been entitled to use even more force than he had already used.

00:37:52.000 So there, again I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying there were issues where people

00:37:56.000 see it differently. And so... I actually just pulled up here from mystateline.com,

00:38:01.000 I haven't checked it out, but an autopsy report confirmed George Floyd died from a cardiac arrest

00:38:04.000 which was, quote, complicated by law enforcement subdual.

00:38:07.000 This was... The cardiac arrest was caused by him being strangulated. That's what it said, well...

00:38:12.000 Yeah, it was complicated.

00:38:14.000 It was caused by probably complications due to law enforcement subdual.

00:38:17.000 A better example is saying he choked him until he had a heart attack.

00:38:20.000 A better example is probably like Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:38:23.000 That's a perfect example.

00:38:24.000 I'm sure we totally agree about that. 0.92

00:38:25.000 That was disgusting.

00:38:26.000 I mean... But this is what happens when... Maybe there's even a better example than that, like Russiagate or what I mentioned with Rachel Maddow and claiming Republicans forged documents.

00:38:37.000 There's a desperate need to satisfy your subscriber base.

00:38:42.000 We don't do that.

00:38:43.000 We, you know, we don't.

00:38:45.000 We just talk about what we want to talk about.

00:38:46.000 Sometimes people get mad at us.

00:38:48.000 I've criticized people on the right and all of a sudden I have people yelling at me and I'm like, dude, whatever, if you think I'm just going to pander.

00:38:52.000 And then they're like, it's really amazing.

00:38:54.000 A cancel culture does exist for everyone.

00:38:57.000 It doesn't mean if, you know, it's not only on the left for sure.

00:38:59.000 With the rise of subscription model, this is fascinating.

00:39:01.000 What is the future of journalism?

00:39:04.000 If you're, I mean, how can you keep a journalistic enterprise afloat and try and be the fourth estate and criticize everything and everyone when you have to have subscribers that'll leave if you start criticizing the people they love?

00:39:15.000 Yeah.

00:39:15.000 So the New York Times right now, 91% of its readership are Democrats.

00:39:20.000 Now that takes a lot of work to get there for the paper record.

00:39:23.000 That's no easy feat.

00:39:24.000 You know, like something they did in the last five years.

00:39:27.000 Just like CNN, you know, in 2012, as recently as 2012, both CNN and Fox News had a predominantly working-class viewership.

00:39:37.000 Only 25% of both Fox and CNN had a college degree.

00:39:41.000 Over the course of the last, you know, 10 years or whatever, CNN lost half of its working-class audience.

00:39:47.000 It signaled to working-class libs This channel is no longer for you. 0.85

00:39:51.000 How did it do that with Wokeness?

00:39:52.000 Because Wokeness is a smokescreen for a class divide.

00:39:55.000 It's being perpetuated by white liberal elites who are literally lining their pockets with this stuff, you know, to avoid talking about a class divide that they have benefited from.

00:40:05.000 Let me show you an example that I talked about earlier today.

00:40:09.000 This is from wishtv.com.

00:40:11.000 I believe it's Indianapolis Channel 8.

00:40:14.000 It is fat-shaming to point out that people who get COVID and who are being hospitalized tend to be obese.

00:40:23.000 So we have this tweet from, I don't know who this person is, but Melissa Cancel Student Debt Burn.

00:40:28.000 Is fat shaming the new CDC government policy?

00:40:31.000 The last week of CDC Gov tweets has been awful.

00:40:34.000 What did the CDC say?

00:40:35.000 They say, a new CDC MMWR finds that two out of three children and adolescents hospitalized for

00:40:42.000 COVID had one or more underlying health conditions, most commonly obesity. Fewer than 1% of eligible

00:40:49.000 for COVID-19 vaccination have been vaccinated. Learn more.

00:40:52.000 They didn't insult people for being fat.

00:40:54.000 They didn't say it was bad to be fat. 0.96

00:40:56.000 They didn't say you're ugly or you're nasty. 0.98

00:40:57.000 They simply said, here's a fact. 0.94

00:40:59.000 And that was mocked.

00:41:01.000 So what we see here is, I suppose, virtuous signaling perpetuating a cycle of decay and destruction in this country.

00:41:09.000 So the reality is, if you want to live a longer life, if you want to have a lower chance of going to the hospital with COVID, lose weight.

00:41:17.000 Eat better.

00:41:18.000 Exercise.

00:41:19.000 Talk to a medical professional and a health and nutrition specialist who can help you live better.

00:41:25.000 But instead of hearing things like, why not take some vitamin D and get some sunlight and breathe some fresh air and get some exercise, we hear everything has to align perfectly with whatever tribe people find themselves in.

00:41:38.000 This woman, it's fat-shaming to point out a fact.

00:41:42.000 Well, that's the tribe they're in.

00:41:43.000 But it's also, like, look how lovely and slim she is, like, the person tweeting this.

00:41:47.000 Like, these people, like, you know, there's such a hypocrisy there, you know?

00:41:52.000 The same thing with, like, you see this a lot with marriage, right?

00:41:55.000 Like, you see this sort of liberal culture that's, you know, often telling people, oh, marriage is an antiquated institution.

00:42:02.000 Like, people don't have to get married.

00:42:03.000 Stop shaming people.

00:42:04.000 You know, we have to promote all kinds of family structures.

00:42:07.000 And the people saying that are all, you know, affluent, highly educated people who are married, who are, you know, benefiting very much from marriage from an economic point of view, because marriage has been very much correlated with higher earnings.

00:42:22.000 And so you have this kind of like this tiny, tiny elite that is impervious to the costs of its BS, right?

00:42:29.000 To the cost of saying, Oh, no, it's totally fine to be obese, like that'll never hurt you, you know, like we have to respect people's choices to be this way, right?

00:42:36.000 Or it's not a choice, right?

00:42:38.000 Like, while at the same time, they would never in a million years, allow their own children to live in that way.

00:42:43.000 I find it really, really, it's terrible.

00:42:46.000 Obesity is definitely a choice.

00:42:48.000 In 2003, I started to get obese, so I stopped eating McDonald's and drinking Coke every day for lunch.

00:42:53.000 It could be both.

00:42:54.000 Some people have a genetic predisposition, some people don't.

00:42:57.000 Maybe, but I don't know.

00:42:59.000 Fasting is like a lost art.

00:43:01.000 It's true, but there's still the reality of you can't gain weight if you don't ingest the calories.

00:43:07.000 So it may be more difficult for some people, but people could choose.

00:43:11.000 I don't know. I just look at cheesecake and I'm like gain the weight.

00:43:13.000 But they've got hold on there. Hold on. I've been doing keto. Cheesecake is very fatty.

00:43:18.000 So it's excellent. So long as it's sweetened with allulose.

00:43:21.000 Yes. Or erythritol. I don't like erythritol, though, the sugar alcohol stuff. But we've got

00:43:26.000 we've got keto cheesecake and it tastes exactly the same. In fact, you know, we got some in the

00:43:30.000 green room. So you can try it.

00:43:31.000 Definitely. And you know, so it's really good.

00:43:35.000 I got some regular cheesecake.

00:43:37.000 I'm going to be partaking in that myself.

00:43:39.000 I want to learn how to make it.

00:43:41.000 The larger issue of like that, you know, like people like living a lifestyle that benefits them and their children and then hoarding the benefits for themselves with this rhetoric that sounds like social justice, but actually is sentencing the poor to live a much worse lives that they would never let their own children live.

00:44:00.000 Exactly.

00:44:01.000 And they're just trying to do it for profit?

00:44:03.000 Like when you see these ads, like it's okay to be large.

00:44:05.000 No, that would be so much easier.

00:44:07.000 That's the thing is like Yuval Levin has this great quote.

00:44:10.000 He's like, he's like Washington would be so much easier to navigate if everyone who showed up was like, hey, I'm going

00:44:17.000 to get all the money and all the power when actually what happens is everyone shows up and says I am going to heal

00:44:22.000 the world.

00:44:23.000 I'm going to fix everything.

00:44:24.000 I'm going to make everything better like they true.

00:44:26.000 This woman truly believes that fat shaming is worse than dying of COVID. 0.66

00:44:31.000 You know, that's the thing is like they really believe it and I know this because I was once one of them.

00:44:35.000 Well, take a look at this.

00:44:37.000 This image is famous image from Cosmo.

00:44:39.000 This is healthy 11 women on why wellness doesn't have to be one size fits all. 1.00

00:44:43.000 No, it's not obesity is not healthy, but she's not obese.

00:44:47.000 She looks great.

00:44:48.000 I think technically that is obesity.

00:44:50.000 No, that's near morbid obesity.

00:44:52.000 See, Americans have become so desensitized to weight issues.

00:44:55.000 I get so annoyed when people are like, eat a steak, eat, eat.

00:44:58.000 I'm like, dude, stop eating for 18 hours.

00:45:00.000 I think she looks great.

00:45:02.000 She's probably morbidly obese. 1.00

00:45:03.000 Really?

00:45:04.000 Yeah, Americans are so desensitized to what overweight really is.

00:45:08.000 You'd be surprised, like, people who we would describe as chubby in America are obese.

00:45:14.000 This woman is probably morbidly obese, or at least on the border of not the fattest you've ever seen. 1.00

00:45:19.000 And then this woman here, clearly, I would assume is morbid obesity. 1.00

00:45:24.000 She also looks great to me.

00:45:26.000 I mean, as a human, I have much love for it.

00:45:28.000 By all means, you can say.

00:45:29.000 No, she looks really healthy.

00:45:30.000 Like, it's clear that she has a lot of muscle.

00:45:31.000 Yeah.

00:45:32.000 Well, I think it's true.

00:45:33.000 It's possible.

00:45:34.000 It's 100% true that one size does not fit all when it comes to health.

00:45:37.000 But I do have to say that this was actually probably my biggest red pill when I was 11 years old.

00:45:42.000 I looked at what feminism had to say about the fat acceptance movement, and I was like, are you effing joking?

00:45:48.000 That is not going to help women live longer, happier lives. 1.00

00:45:51.000 If they really wanted women to live and see their grandkids, they would be promoting being active, 0.99

00:45:56.000 finding something that you like to do, like yoga, doing something healthy with yourself.

00:46:00.000 There's so many negative health consequences of being overweight.

00:46:04.000 Higher blood pressure, heart disease, especially.

00:46:08.000 I just want to be, I don't see any muscles.

00:46:12.000 I'll just be honest with you.

00:46:13.000 That's just my perspective.

00:46:15.000 But a lot of this is being done in the guise of helping them.

00:46:17.000 Like, we need to help them.

00:46:18.000 We need to stop fat shaming them. 0.99

00:46:20.000 We need to stop making them feel bad.

00:46:21.000 But essentially what they're doing is hurting these people even more later down the line because they're not being real with them.

00:46:28.000 They fake caring about them because if they really did truly care about someone who is overweight, they'd be like, okay, you know, let's do this.

00:46:36.000 Let's hit the gym.

00:46:37.000 Let's work out.

00:46:37.000 Let's change your diet.

00:46:38.000 Let's get away from GMO.

00:46:40.000 Who do you think they have a line into their brains? 1.00

00:46:42.000 Like, nobody's buying this.

00:46:45.000 Who do you think they're convincing?

00:46:46.000 They're not convincing anybody.

00:46:48.000 They're virtue signaling, these people.

00:46:49.000 So it just makes them feel good.

00:46:51.000 It's not actually.

00:46:52.000 There's no person who's like, should I go on a diet?

00:46:54.000 No, I don't have to because I'm just meh.

00:46:56.000 I would disagree, actually.

00:46:58.000 I would actually disagree.

00:46:59.000 Because these are people of influence.

00:47:01.000 We've seen this in a lot of the corporate press, saying fat shaming is bad.

00:47:06.000 It's okay to accept your weight. 0.93

00:47:08.000 There's even people giving out little notes to individuals, to their doctors, saying, hey, don't ask me about my weight, which is absolutely ridiculous.

00:47:18.000 Your doctor should know how much you weigh.

00:47:20.000 They should know how much your weight has changed.

00:47:22.000 One of my favorite memes is all the pretty obese health bureaucrats that were deciding on people's health. 0.99

00:47:30.000 And Joe Rogan made a very kind of interesting point about this because he said himself, I've been working on my health almost my entire life.

00:47:36.000 I've been hitting the gym.

00:47:37.000 I've been watching what I eat.

00:47:39.000 I've been making sure I take the right supplements.

00:47:41.000 I make sure I rest.

00:47:42.000 And there's someone who does the complete opposite of that to telling me what I should be doing for my health.

00:47:47.000 You know, that should be something we should consider.

00:47:49.000 We shouldn't make it the end-all be-all.

00:47:51.000 But at the end of the day, you know, tough love and just being real and honest with people goes a lot further than just kind of patronizing them and pretending to care about them, which I think is going to lead to more harm.

00:48:01.000 But also, you could go too far with it.

00:48:03.000 Like, every time I go to LA, I'm like, this is a godless place.

00:48:06.000 Like, it's pure materiality.

00:48:09.000 It's pure body worship.

00:48:10.000 And it's like, There's no spirit at all.

00:48:12.000 It's all it's kind of great. And if you look at the fashion industry, they are normalizing, you know women to look like 0.54

00:48:19.000 Pre-pubescent boys, and I think a lot of that has to do with the Jeffrey Epstein connections

00:48:24.000 But that's a whole nother thing to even get into but there's a lot of you know, Jean-louis Bernet Les Wexner

00:48:29.000 there's a whole lot of individuals of Victoria's Secret that are involved in in

00:48:33.000 Portraying this image of perfection of of these like girls who are way too young who look like little boys that

00:48:40.000 That's something that needs to be addressed, and I do agree with you.

00:48:44.000 That's also another issue that should be talked about should be addressed just as the same as this one because it's it's in the same realm of providing an image that is absolutely unfair and skews people's minds to what the reality of our of our real life is and so do Instagram filters.

00:48:59.000 They have a huge negative consequence for people's mental health because they get this image portrayed that everyone's perfect.

00:49:05.000 They don't have any wrinkles.

00:49:06.000 They have the perfect Bosoms and the perfect glass shape of wine of whatever they want to describe themselves hourglass who knows now Look what we were just looking at just a few moments ago here tell me I'm not wrong that two white wine glasses upside down 0.71

00:49:25.000 There you go.

00:49:26.000 That makes sense.

00:49:27.000 Thank you, Ian.

00:49:28.000 Maybe a red wine glass on the bottom.

00:49:30.000 The main issue I was trying to get to is we have a definitive fact that I think the CDC said 30% of people hospitalized for COVID are obese.

00:49:38.000 Yes.

00:49:39.000 We then have these virtue signaling media types saying you're fat shaming by telling people that.

00:49:45.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:49:45.000 It's going to get people killed. 0.98

00:49:47.000 Yeah.

00:49:48.000 If I could speak to this, just because I have struggled with my weight throughout my life, as people can probably tell, I'm struggling with it again.

00:49:52.000 I'm getting a little chubby, as chat likes to point out.

00:49:55.000 What are you talking about?

00:49:56.000 So here's the deal.

00:49:57.000 I am concerned.

00:49:58.000 The standards here are way too high.

00:49:59.000 No, it's fine.

00:50:00.000 I just know how I used to look and how I looked before that.

00:50:02.000 So I'm like trying to get back on target with my health.

00:50:05.000 And it's interesting to me and horrifying to watch compassion taking the place of factual

00:50:10.000 observation because I understand wanting everyone to feel like they look beautiful.

00:50:16.000 I completely understand.

00:50:17.000 As a woman, 100%.

00:50:19.000 I feel deeply that everyone should understand that they are unique individuals and have like this unique perspective in life.

00:50:26.000 But when it comes to helping people live their best lives, their longest lives, and get the most out of life, I think it's essential to point out the things that are dangerous.

00:50:36.000 And I'm very sorry that health has become so Emotionally oriented, because it's very, very important for people to live their fullest lives and to be their best selves, to have an understanding that it feels good to work out, that it feels great to see yourself get more flexible and stronger, that it's really key to living a better and stronger life.

00:50:53.000 And with the COVID thing, I think this should be a turning point in the American understanding of our own weight as such a key component of what happens to us in the hospital.

00:51:04.000 We've disconnected from that.

00:51:06.000 We think that what we eat has nothing to do with how we live and how we experience life.

00:51:11.000 When we start looking at the larger impacts from the sugar industry and the factory food industry, there's a lot to unpack there with what is happening to our health right now that definitely deserves a real discussion and I think they're preventing it from happening.

00:51:24.000 When Michelle Obama got into office, I should say when Barack got in, she started the Let's Move campaign, which was basically, let's move and cut sugar out of our diets, everyone. 0.98

00:51:24.000 Yeah, they for sure are. 0.98

00:51:32.000 And then a couple weeks went by, radio silence, all of a sudden the sugar industry is part of the White House group, and it changes into an exercise campaign.

00:51:39.000 Let's get up and move.

00:51:40.000 But what they're telling people is, you can eat crappy food and then burn off the calories and you'll be back to zero.

00:51:45.000 That's not how it works.

00:51:47.000 If you can't drink Diet Coke and then work out and expect to be healthy, you can't put that stuff in your body.

00:51:52.000 Don't put poison in your body.

00:51:53.000 And this industry, like the tobacco industry, has commercials on TV peddling it to kids, this addictive substance, sucrose.

00:52:00.000 Like, there's some value to it, for sure.

00:52:03.000 But it's a drug.

00:52:04.000 We gotta treat it like a drug.

00:52:05.000 Sugar's a drug? 0.99

00:52:06.000 So Eric Adams, who's New York's new mayor, who's pretty great, he's a vegan and he became a vegan because he got diabetes and he started to lose his vision.

00:52:15.000 And apparently as soon as he became a vegan, three weeks later it all came back and all the symptoms started reversing themselves.

00:52:21.000 And he pushes veganism as a kind of racial justice thing because he says, look at the foods that our community is consuming.

00:52:28.000 These are like foods that we had to learn how to make because of slavery and because we were only given scraps.

00:52:34.000 But now it's keeping us enslaved and it's harming our bodies and we have to have this.

00:52:38.000 He has like a whole metaphor for it.

00:52:40.000 And it's very cool.

00:52:42.000 But I tend to think of the obesity epidemic very much along the lines of the deaths of despair,

00:52:47.000 like from alcoholism and opioid addiction, overdose, and suicide.

00:52:54.000 It's happening among the lower classes.

00:52:56.000 It's happening among the poor.

00:52:57.000 And to me, it signals a kind of hopelessness, a giving up, a sign of a spiritual dearth and a lack of connection

00:53:04.000 to the nation, like an inability to see yourself as an active participant in building up the nation,

00:53:11.000 because it comes back to economics, the offshoring of these great jobs,

00:53:14.000 like downward mobility of the working class, where you no longer see your life as being

00:53:19.000 on an upward trajectory.

00:53:20.000 Let's talk about the paradox of anti-racism.

00:53:24.000 These woke people say that they are anti-racist.

00:53:28.000 But as we know, according to Ibram X. Kendi, anti-racism means actively participating in discrimination.

00:53:35.000 GeekWire writes Trulia to drop neighborhood crime data from home listings after Redfin speaks out against practice.

00:53:44.000 You're gonna love this one.

00:53:45.000 They say, Given the long history of redlining and racist housing covenants in the United States, there's too great a risk of this inaccuracy reinforcing racial bias, Christian Taubman, Redfin's chief growth officer, wrote in December 13th Post.

00:53:59.000 We believe that Redfin and all real estate sites should not show neighborhood crime data.

00:54:05.000 There is something profoundly racist about taking down crime data and saying it's because it's racist.

00:54:14.000 Isn't that paradoxical? 0.99

00:54:15.000 Disgusting. 0.99

00:54:16.000 Because the implication, of course, is that black people, right, don't also want to know where crime is so they could avoid it, right? 1.00

00:54:25.000 It's so disgusting. 0.99

00:54:27.000 Yeah, I guess they think it's like they have this, everyone should experience all of the crime.

00:54:34.000 That way no one, it's not one group that does.

00:54:37.000 Yeah, equality.

00:54:39.000 Everyone suffers. 0.90

00:54:40.000 It's so disgusting.

00:54:41.000 The erasure of the victims of crime. 1.00

00:54:45.000 Like it's because it embarrasses white liberals that the perpetrators of these violent crimes are people of color. 0.95

00:54:52.000 That embarrasses them, right? 0.98

00:54:53.000 Because it doesn't fit with the anti-racism where black people are the oppressed and white people are the oppressors. 0.97

00:54:58.000 They are willing to erase the victims of these crimes. 0.97

00:55:02.000 Children being gunned down in their neighborhoods every day and no one will talk about it.

00:55:07.000 The issue with crime in big cities and in this country is always poverty.

00:55:14.000 You take a look at impoverished white neighborhoods, you'll see a high level of crime.

00:55:17.000 You take a look at black neighborhoods, impoverished, high levels of crime. 1.00

00:55:20.000 And what they do is they put a racial component on it which makes everyone immediately assume the crime is race-based.

00:55:27.000 It's a class issue.

00:55:28.000 That's my big problem I take with, with wokeness. 0.99

00:55:30.000 It's basically, it's a scapegoat for the wealthy elites.

00:55:34.000 As you mentioned, it's a class issue, but they disguise it.

00:55:37.000 And it makes these liberals feel good without having to actually change anything.

00:55:40.000 They're not going to move from their white enclaves. 0.97

00:55:42.000 They're just going to pretend like they're doing something by removing the crime stats from, from their websites.

00:55:48.000 Meanwhile, they all know where they're living.

00:55:49.000 They all know where they come from.

00:55:50.000 They all know what they want to do and how they want to do it.

00:55:53.000 Anti-racism is very racist.

00:55:55.000 Chloe Valderay I believe said very plaintively called it counter-dependence.

00:56:01.000 So you can have a codependent relationship with racism where you're like blatantly racist and scream at people like you're worse than me, but having a counter-dependence on racism is also racist.

00:56:11.000 Trying to use racism to combat racism because you hate racism. 0.59

00:56:15.000 And you'll go to any lengths to stop racism, including be racist.

00:56:19.000 But a lot of this... And it is racist.

00:56:22.000 For what reason does Redfin or Trulia have to remove crime data?

00:56:26.000 This is just a virtue signal.

00:56:28.000 And this data isn't going away just because they're not putting this filter on top of the map anymore.

00:56:33.000 They have the data.

00:56:34.000 Their rich allies have the data.

00:56:36.000 The people who want it will get it.

00:56:37.000 The normal people will not have it.

00:56:39.000 And that's disgusting. 0.97

00:56:41.000 I think that's the hypocrisy you're talking about. 0.96

00:56:42.000 I'll tell you exactly why I can't stand the Democratic Party and, overwhelmingly, the establishment left.

00:56:50.000 They are willing to ignore reality for the sake of tribe.

00:56:55.000 And certainly the Trump supporters have that element too, but they're not in power.

00:56:58.000 They don't control cultural institutions.

00:57:00.000 And I just look at, um, COVID data.

00:57:04.000 I take a look at, uh, the vaccine mandates, the mask mandates.

00:57:07.000 I take a look at how they virtue signal this way.

00:57:09.000 I take a look at how they tell people we want to, Black Lives Matter said they want to disrupt the nuclear family. 0.77

00:57:14.000 even though we know the nuclear family is a huge component, it's related to success and better living.

00:57:20.000 When it comes to all of these policies, rich people are exempt, they're always exempt.

00:57:27.000 Rich person wants crime data, they simply go to a service and they pay the money

00:57:30.000 and they get it.

00:57:31.000 And if you're making millions of dollars, what do you care about spending a thousand bucks

00:57:35.000 on crime data?

00:57:36.000 But they'll remove it for you, the average American.

00:57:39.000 When it comes to vaccine mandates and mask mandates, When it comes to air travel, oh no, everybody's got to wear their mask.

00:57:46.000 They want to fly in planes.

00:57:47.000 Joe Biden says, maybe we'll do a vaccine mandate for air travel.

00:57:50.000 The rich person says, let's take private.

00:57:51.000 Why do I care?

00:57:52.000 It's always something negative for the poor and the working class.

00:57:56.000 I just, you know, I take a look at going back to the Trump years.

00:58:01.000 You had Americans suffering.

00:58:03.000 These small towns were being gutted and destroyed by neoliberal policy, sending factories overseas.

00:58:09.000 And then when these people said, we need help, and many of them wanted Bernie Sanders...

00:58:14.000 Hillary Clinton wins.

00:58:15.000 They say, okay, we'll take Trump. 0.99

00:58:17.000 The response from the elites is, you're all racists and you're perpetuating white supremacy. 0.98

00:58:22.000 And this is where we are today. 1.00

00:58:24.000 The aftermath of all of this fake virtue signaling garbage.

00:58:27.000 Yeah, this article reminds me, it's kind of similar to what happened on The View in 2015, 0.98

00:58:34.000 when we had Kelly Osborne said, we can't kick the Latinos out 0.89

00:58:37.000 because who's going to clean our toilets? 1.00

00:58:40.000 So this was on air, on national television.

00:58:45.000 And when you look at a lot of these kind of wokest, when you look at a lot of these kind of anti-racist apologists,

00:58:52.000 many times, these individuals are the biggest racists themselves because they believe that they're better

00:59:00.000 than other people and that they need to help them because they're so much better in all circumstances

00:59:06.000 than other people because of their skin color.

00:59:08.000 That viewpoint is absolutely absurd and it's white knighting to absurd levels. 0.55

00:59:13.000 This explains the white progressive so well. 0.97

00:59:17.000 Authoritarian, elitist, and racist all at once, but guilty about it.

00:59:24.000 I think, you know, I was talking to someone, I worked in LA for a little bit, I lived there for a little bit, and people were telling me that celebrities are really scared, they're really superstitious, so they donate a lot of money to various causes because they're worried about karma.

00:59:37.000 You know, they do this movie, they make millions of dollars, and they feel bad that they're living this way, so they give money away.

00:59:42.000 This is kind of the same thing.

00:59:45.000 I think a better way to explain it is Warren Buffett, when he said, I can't remember exactly what happened with this, but he was like, we should do a pledge to give away half our money or something.

00:59:52.000 You remember that, Luke?

00:59:54.000 I remember that, yeah.

00:59:56.000 And I don't think it had anything to do with him actually caring.

00:59:59.000 I think it had to do with him hedging his bet that there was going to be a class war and people were not going to tolerate his wealth.

01:00:07.000 So he's like, I'm giving stuff away.

01:00:10.000 So when I see this stuff, these are white supremacists with guilty consciences. 0.98

01:00:14.000 These liberals, these progressives, they're deeply racist individuals. 0.96

01:00:18.000 They push deeply racist policies.

01:00:19.000 They've actively tried to get civil rights legislation repealed in California.

01:00:25.000 Which proposition was that, where they tried to repeal from their California constitution the civil rights provision?

01:00:29.000 No joke, they tried to remove that.

01:00:31.000 Because they said, well, once we get rid of it, then we can help the poor minorities by giving them preferential treatment. 1.00

01:00:38.000 And I was talking to a friend of mine who's an LA celebrity woke, whatever.

01:00:42.000 And she was advocating for this saying, we need this proposition.

01:00:45.000 It was, they called it the affirmative action proposition that by removing the non-discrimination non-discrimination clause from our constitution, we will be able to help poor minorities go to school and get better jobs and better government contracts.

01:00:59.000 And so I asked my friend, what percentage of California is white?

01:01:04.000 What is it, like 70%?

01:01:05.000 Can you pull it up real quick?

01:01:07.000 I think it's upwards of 70%.

01:01:09.000 And I said, do you think, and what about like Central California and a lot of these smaller towns?

01:01:14.000 What percentage white do you think they are?

01:01:17.000 And she's like, oh, I probably like 99%.

01:01:18.000 I was like, yeah.

01:01:20.000 Do you think these people are all racist? 0.58

01:01:21.000 Do you think white people are racist?

01:01:23.000 71%.

01:01:24.000 71%. 0.99

01:01:24.000 And she's like, yeah, I think white people are deeply racist. 0.99

01:01:27.000 And I said, okay, so when you take away the constitutional provision that bars racial discrimination, And give a 71% white majority the ability to discriminate? 0.95

01:01:38.000 Do you think they're going to all of a sudden give up that power or entrench it?

01:01:42.000 That's what I think, honestly.

01:01:45.000 I'm not so worried about the small town white, you know, majority putting up, you know, whites only or anything like that. 0.98

01:01:51.000 I am worried about these progressive Hollywood types who will be like, oh, well, you know, why can't we do that?

01:01:57.000 They've already done it in Seattle with their, you know, they had the, what did they say, diversity, people of color room and non-POC room. 0.73

01:02:05.000 Have you seen these?

01:02:06.000 Yeah.

01:02:07.000 When they start segregating.

01:02:09.000 So forgive me if I don't trust these activists when they claim they're doing it for altruistic reasons.

01:02:13.000 It's like Bill Gates really quickly.

01:02:15.000 I'm going to make a reference because there's an example I could make here.

01:02:17.000 When he said he was going to give off all of his wealth to charity, he literally doubled his wealth in a few years.

01:02:23.000 So that's the type of individual.

01:02:25.000 I just needed to say that.

01:02:25.000 Sorry, go ahead Ian.

01:02:26.000 I wonder how many times you got to see a movie where the guy's like, quick, give me the ultimate power item!

01:02:31.000 Quick, quick! 0.99

01:02:31.000 And then you give it to him and he's like, yeah, thank you. 0.99

01:02:34.000 And he turns and uses it on you.

01:02:35.000 And you're like, dude, like you don't give that kind of authority to someone.

01:02:41.000 I don't really believe that if California got rid of that provision in their constitution, all of a sudden all the white people would be like, now's our chance! 0.95

01:02:47.000 But that would ultimately eventually happen in an entropic system.

01:02:52.000 What I mean is, for my friend to claim that she's woke and she believes white people are all racist, to then want to give the white majority the power to discriminate against people based on race makes no sense.

01:03:03.000 And they won't back away from it.

01:03:05.000 Her response to me was, yeah, well, you know, it's the right thing to do.

01:03:08.000 And I'm just like, do you actually care about the logic of helping poor people?

01:03:12.000 Or is it just, I'm going to say whatever my tribe tells me to say, so I'm popular.

01:03:18.000 Okay, but we have two parties in this country, and one of my big gripes with Republicans is like, okay, it's true, you're not all white supremacists, but where's your counteroffer to fix the remaining problems that we have with racism?

01:03:33.000 Like, there's nothing there, there's nothing doing.

01:03:36.000 You would think they would be showing up in the black community and saying, hey, I'm going to give you school choice, get your kid into a good school, and I'm going to put the criminals away so your kid doesn't get shot on the way to that good school, and they don't show Well, so the Republican establishment doesn't, but the populist Republicans are starting to do that.

01:03:52.000 They're starting to, it's true.

01:03:54.000 But like very, very slowly, and it's sort of like... We need everybody to primary every establishment politician, be it Democrat or Republican, and then we can get some Democrats who say the exact same thing as Republicans say the same thing, because populism is the answer regardless of your economic position.

01:04:11.000 I don't care if you're a laissez-faire populist or a communist populist, if we find key issues we're going to work together on, and then we can argue about the rest of it, Excellent.

01:04:21.000 Instead, what we have is the Democratic establishment is obsessed with Trump.

01:04:24.000 The Republican establishment just obstructs.

01:04:27.000 And then we get nowhere as Americans who are trying to actually solve our problems to live better lives.

01:04:34.000 This is why I think one of the reasons Trump wins, at the very least, Trump was like, I'm going to bring your factories back.

01:04:39.000 I'm going to bring your jobs back.

01:04:40.000 I'm going to deal with the opioid crisis.

01:04:42.000 I'm going to deal with our border crisis.

01:04:43.000 We're going to end these foreign wars. 0.99

01:04:45.000 Far from perfect in a lot of these things.

01:04:47.000 But hey, he didn't start any new wars.

01:04:49.000 He set the timeline for getting us out of Afghanistan. 0.99

01:04:51.000 He tried getting us out of Syria. 0.86

01:04:53.000 He did bring many of our factories back.

01:04:55.000 Joe Biden comes in.

01:04:57.000 Everything falls apart once again.

01:04:58.000 I feel like now they're just... The establishment politicians, namely the Democrats... Here's what I see happening.

01:05:04.000 Let me slow down.

01:05:06.000 It was always the same with the Democrats and the Republicans, the Uniparty. 0.86

01:05:09.000 Bernie and Trump staged an insurgency from the left and the right.

01:05:12.000 Bernie is weak.

01:05:13.000 He gave in, he caved, and now he toes the line.

01:05:16.000 He has been absorbed into the machine. 0.98

01:05:18.000 Donald Trump is a crazy person who kicked the door in screaming and took over, and now a large portion of the Republican Party is controlled by Trump and his supporters. 0.94

01:05:26.000 There still remains establishment Democrats in control, but they're slowly being weeded out. 0.99

01:05:31.000 Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, these guys, in my opinion, are awful. 0.95

01:05:33.000 Even Ted Cruz has proven himself to be weak and feckless.

01:05:37.000 Then you do have a lot of populist Republicans who are a little too aggressive, but it's better than the establishment, in my opinion.

01:05:44.000 The Democrats have doubled down and redoubled their efforts.

01:05:46.000 The neocons, who are booted out of the party, Jump sides to the Democratic establishment with like the Lincoln Project and now start towing all of that line.

01:05:54.000 So that's that's it.

01:05:55.000 The Uniparty is in the Democrats.

01:05:57.000 They are extracting as much as they can from this country as the ship is sinking.

01:06:02.000 Mitch McConnell, his whole attitude is, well I'm gonna stand here and do nothing and be a speed bump.

01:06:07.000 While the Democrats are like, the only thing you should care about is Donald Trump.

01:06:10.000 Then Nancy Pelosi goes, buy more stocks as I change the laws. 1.00

01:06:13.000 They don't, I don't believe any one of these politicians Save a small handful actually care about making this country better.

01:06:21.000 I think for the most part they all see it as what can I do to ensure my family's wealth and success because the country is collapsing.

01:06:29.000 That's what I see across the board.

01:06:31.000 So my hope now is that come the primaries people go to the Republican Party and they vote out every single one of these establishment Republicans all of the and then you get some working class individuals American populists and the same thing happens to the Democratic Party. 0.96

01:06:45.000 I hope The Democrats get some, you know, it doesn't really fly on the left, but moderate, working-class, populist, center-left individuals to get rid of the Democratic establishment corporatist crony garbage and the woke trash. 0.87

01:06:59.000 And then the Republicans need to do the same thing to the neocon war hawks and corporatists as well.

01:07:05.000 And then repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

01:07:08.000 Otherwise, we're headed towards zero. 1.00

01:07:10.000 We got to get rid of that stupid corporation, man. 1.00

01:07:14.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:07:14.000 I feel like decentralization is our best bet. 1.00

01:07:17.000 Less centralized power at the federal level is our best opportunity.

01:07:23.000 Because right now what's happening is both sides are trying to fight for supreme power.

01:07:27.000 This is actually the first time in history that it's never been better to create a decentralized government.

01:07:35.000 What gives you hope, Tim?

01:07:36.000 What is your positive vision?

01:07:41.000 Gun rights, wow!

01:07:43.000 That's fantastic!

01:07:44.000 Gun rights have been winning across the board.

01:07:46.000 It says more than just guns.

01:07:49.000 It says that regular people are focused on their individual responsibilities.

01:07:52.000 Autonomy. Yeah autonomy. There is still an uh, uh semblance of also a lot of people expect the country to fall apart

01:07:59.000 But I actually i'm i'm uh, it's I wouldn't say any of this is pessimistic. I think it's fairly optimistic. I think the

01:08:05.000 the uh, populism is winning

01:08:08.000 the the day after day we can see that

01:08:11.000 Anybody who toes the establishment line is is mocked ruthlessly and insulted and derided and they're not going to survive

01:08:17.000 politically Adam Kinzinger is the best example.

01:08:21.000 He comes out and he tweets an insult at Jack Posobiec, and I'm just like, bro, you're not going to win a re-election if you're against Jack Posobiec.

01:08:28.000 Jack is a very prominent conservative personality with millions, million plus followers or whatever.

01:08:33.000 He does a big podcast.

01:08:35.000 So the left doesn't like the guy, but on the right, they love him.

01:08:40.000 If you're a Republican and you're like, I oppose what these people stand for, you may as well leave.

01:08:44.000 So these establishment guys are going to lose.

01:08:46.000 I think the same thing's going to happen on the Democratic side.

01:08:48.000 26 Democrats have announced their retirement because they know they're done.

01:08:51.000 Kinzinger announced his retirement.

01:08:53.000 He knows he's done.

01:08:54.000 The establishment is broken.

01:08:56.000 It's falling apart.

01:08:57.000 CNN's ratings are in the trash.

01:08:59.000 Our ratings are through the roof.

01:09:00.000 Crowder, Glenn Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, success across the board for populist personalities who actually believe in the working class.

01:09:07.000 I think that's great news.

01:09:10.000 I think the night is always darkest before the dawn.

01:09:12.000 Things may get pretty bad.

01:09:13.000 I do think we're on the verge of some major conflict that's going to happen.

01:09:18.000 National divorce could precipitate some serious fighting over resources, but ultimately I think it's going to get a lot better.

01:09:26.000 You know, if you believe in the Strauss-Howe generational theory, then we are in the fourth turning, the period of tumult and crisis.

01:09:33.000 And that means after 2028, things are going to get really, really good.

01:09:36.000 And we're going to have 40 years of growth and prosperity, 20 years of stagnation, and then 20 years of crisis and collapse again.

01:09:42.000 You know what's marked for 2029?

01:09:44.000 What?

01:09:45.000 Peak Graphene.

01:09:46.000 What is that?

01:09:48.000 Graphene is carbon.

01:09:50.000 Take a drink, everybody.

01:09:52.000 It's a material.

01:09:53.000 It's carbon, but they figured out how to make it as a monoatomic layer, just one layer, atom-thick layer of carbon.

01:10:01.000 It's got amazing properties.

01:10:02.000 We'll be using it for building materials in the 21st century.

01:10:05.000 You can get it out of carbon dioxide.

01:10:05.000 It's pure carbon.

01:10:07.000 We can withdraw the carbon dioxide and make buildings out of it, basically.

01:10:10.000 I got this guy a Christmas present.

01:10:12.000 Tim got me graphene for Christmas.

01:10:16.000 I was doing a lot of research in 2018 looking down in Chile to build a company down there to start producing it and everything was pointing to 2029, the year that global society is going to embrace graphene.

01:10:27.000 We have a button, you can't see it.

01:10:29.000 And whenever we feel the conversation's going in circles, I press it, and a big thing lights up saying graphene, and it flashes.

01:10:35.000 And then it cues Ian to just... I also have a shock.

01:10:37.000 It shocks me.

01:10:38.000 I'm under my seat in case my eyes are closed.

01:10:38.000 It does, yeah.

01:10:40.000 There's a DMT one for the after show, but that's a different story.

01:10:43.000 But to kind of ask you, what gives you hope?

01:10:46.000 And to kind of also, while you're here, I think it's fair to say that we kind of see the solution very differently.

01:10:54.000 But we agree on the problem.

01:10:55.000 We agree that obviously the billionaires are controlling too much.

01:10:59.000 Of our existence.

01:11:00.000 We believe that the banks have absolutely printed money out of thin air.

01:11:04.000 We believe that we're controlled by multinational corporations that call the shots.

01:11:08.000 Populism has never been heard by the government.

01:11:12.000 Is there hope for us working together somehow from these different perspectives on these larger populist ideas?

01:11:19.000 Do you see populists from the left and right potentially ever coming together?

01:11:24.000 I get hope from going around the country talking to people everywhere who are working class, who are completely don't care who their neighbors voted for, who are totally post-partisan. 0.95

01:11:38.000 Partisanship is a completely elite phenomenon because elites make money off of it.

01:11:44.000 And so I get a lot of hope talking to working class Americans because they have hope. 0.56

01:11:50.000 And I think that the, but, but I guess, yeah, I still feel stupidly like, I don't know.

01:11:57.000 I don't know how we, how we do it without, um, I still, I'm struggling to have the vision that you have, like to see past the current moment. 0.94

01:12:08.000 So I feel a little bit like I'm still struggling to point out like to the media itself, like, Hey, you guys are corrupt. 0.55

01:12:15.000 Could you be a little less corrupt?

01:12:17.000 Working class people are human.

01:12:19.000 Can you treat them better?

01:12:20.000 You know, like, I feel a little bit like I'm but I feel super hopeful about America.

01:12:24.000 I love this country.

01:12:25.000 And I think that it's its people are getting better and better every day.

01:12:29.000 Like, I think that we've seen a huge, huge revolution on the right in terms of how it thinks and talks about race and how it thinks and talks about things like police brutality.

01:12:39.000 Very recently, criminal justice, stuff like that.

01:12:41.000 So I get tons of hope from the unity I see everywhere except in the elites.

01:12:46.000 Well, let's talk about hope.

01:12:48.000 I have something that I think could very easily explain some optimism for everybody.

01:12:52.000 You used to be a woke journalist and you're no longer.

01:12:55.000 You wrote a book against it.

01:12:58.000 So tell me, how do you find yourself?

01:13:01.000 How do you end up as a woke reporter and then one day have an unwokening and become anti-woke?

01:13:07.000 Yeah, my deprogramming.

01:13:09.000 It was like a bunch of things, you know, it was like very slow and then all at once.

01:13:12.000 But I definitely had the Trump derangement syndrome.

01:13:15.000 It was like in the beginning it was very hard for me to talk to... I took it very personally that he won in that super lame liberal way. 0.60

01:13:23.000 And it, you know, it took me a while to be able to admit like, oh, that's a really good thing he did.

01:13:29.000 Oh, that's a really good thing he did.

01:13:32.000 My deprogramming, I think it started with learning about the deaths of despair, and every night I would turn on CNN and see the very people who we had abandoned, who were literally killing themselves because they didn't see a future for themselves in this country, killing themselves, being mocked on CNN, being called racist in the New York Times.

01:13:52.000 That sort of started to really, it was jarring to me.

01:13:55.000 Why do we not have compassion for them?

01:13:59.000 And then the second thing I would say was I read this Yale study from 2018.

01:14:02.000 Do you guys know about this study?

01:14:04.000 No.

01:14:04.000 There's a lot of studies.

01:14:06.000 You're really gonna love this one, though.

01:14:08.000 You do, right?

01:14:09.000 Yeah.

01:14:10.000 So Yale did a study in 2018.

01:14:12.000 What they found was there's a difference between how white liberals and white conservatives talk to black and Latino people.

01:14:18.000 Yes, I remember this study.

01:14:19.000 Great study.

01:14:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:21.000 Top tier. 0.99

01:14:21.000 And it found that white liberals dumb down their vocabulary when they're talking to blacks and Latinos and white conservatives do not. 0.99

01:14:31.000 And I remember reading that in 2018 and thinking to myself, this implicates my entire worldview. 0.90

01:14:37.000 And I was not ready to deal with it.

01:14:39.000 And I put it aside. 0.97

01:14:40.000 But I had this moment where I was like, this is disgusting and everything I think is caught up in that thing that makes you dumb down your language. 0.96

01:14:49.000 You assume a person of color is less educated than you, is poorer than you, and needs your help and needs your generosity and your beneficence, right? 0.81

01:14:56.000 That move of, like, I instantly recoiled because I recognized it.

01:15:01.000 And then the third thing that really, I think, was like the death of my Trump derangement syndrome was my rabbi is just the best person that I know.

01:15:09.000 He He's the kind of person who, like, in the winter, he walks down the street and he sees a homeless person.

01:15:13.000 He starts taking his clothes off and giving them his coat and his scarf and everything.

01:15:17.000 He's just the most humble, generous person.

01:15:19.000 I know when we were, you know, having a Shabbat meal once and, you know, Trump came up and he was like, Oh, I love Trump.

01:15:25.000 And I was like, Excuse me?

01:15:27.000 He was like, yeah, I love the guy.

01:15:29.000 And I was like, you mean you voted for him, you know, holding your nose.

01:15:32.000 And he was like, no, I love him.

01:15:34.000 And it was like that.

01:15:35.000 And that's what I tell people.

01:15:36.000 People often ask me, like, how can I convince people to not be woke anymore?

01:15:40.000 And what I say is like, you can't really change someone's mind with information.

01:15:44.000 Our brains aren't wired that way. 0.96

01:15:46.000 What you can do is you can be a person who is so humble and virtuous or strives to be virtuous, so clearly trying to be a good person, that a person who disagrees with you can no longer say about everyone who holds your opinion, they're racist, they're evil.

01:16:03.000 But I think that's for liberals.

01:16:05.000 It's a liberal perspective.

01:16:06.000 I think conservatives have a tendency to be swayed by facts and information.

01:16:10.000 Not all of them, obviously.

01:16:12.000 Obviously, there's very emotional people.

01:16:14.000 And I think the left has a tendency to be swayed by feelings.

01:16:17.000 It's why Ben Shapiro tweets, facts don't care about your feelings and gets 50,000 retweets and a million followers and everyone's cheering for him on the right.

01:16:25.000 Interesting.

01:16:26.000 Yes, yes, yes, of course.

01:16:27.000 They're very much driven by care and fairness to cite.

01:16:30.000 Specifically, Jonathan Haidt's research, you're familiar?

01:16:32.000 Yes, yes, of course.

01:16:33.000 Conservatives have all six moral foundations.

01:16:36.000 The liberals have two.

01:16:38.000 But when Ben Shapiro says facts don't care about your feelings,

01:16:40.000 he's kind of making an emotional statement.

01:16:43.000 You know?

01:16:45.000 But the point stands.

01:16:47.000 And the inverse is true.

01:16:48.000 For the left, feelings don't care about your facts.

01:16:50.000 But Jonathan Haidt's research found that conservatives, when they take a moral foundations test, they have a balance of all these different moral foundations, which is care, fairness, purity, authority, freedom, and there's one more.

01:17:05.000 But you're super anti-authoritarian.

01:17:08.000 Yeah, oh yeah.

01:17:09.000 I mean, I think I think the divide, the political divide, it's obviously not left or right.

01:17:15.000 It's authoritarian versus anti-authoritarian.

01:17:17.000 So if you're someone who, I think liberals have a tendency towards authoritarianism, and I hate using the word liberal because it doesn't mean that, but whatever modern American leftism is, because they're collectivist.

01:17:29.000 And collectivism is inherently authoritarian because if the collective, which is the authority, decrees, you either follow suit or you're ostracized.

01:17:38.000 So if you're someone who is driven by care and fairness, and that's it, you don't care about loyalty, purity, authority, or anything like that, or freedom.

01:17:45.000 Liberty is a moral foundation, and if you don't have that, well then you don't care if they're doing vaccine mandates.

01:17:51.000 Let me tell you something that I think people really need to understand.

01:17:53.000 The left and the right don't speak the same language.

01:17:56.000 They come out right now in New York City and they say vaccine mandates work.

01:18:00.000 Let me just ask you a very simple question.

01:18:01.000 Do you think vaccine mandates work?

01:18:03.000 No.

01:18:04.000 Why not?

01:18:05.000 Well, I think they're unconstitutional.

01:18:08.000 Well, that's not a question of whether they work.

01:18:09.000 Oh, you mean do they work at preventing the spread?

01:18:11.000 I didn't say that.

01:18:12.000 I said, do they work?

01:18:13.000 Do they work?

01:18:13.000 And with no qualifications?

01:18:15.000 Do you think they work?

01:18:15.000 No qualifications.

01:18:16.000 Do I think they work?

01:18:17.000 I don't think they work.

01:18:19.000 And why is that?

01:18:20.000 Well, because of Omicron.

01:18:22.000 So this is really interesting because people on the left know this.

01:18:26.000 They know New York is experiencing a massive surge in cases.

01:18:29.000 But when they say vaccine mandates work, they're not talking about preventing COVID.

01:18:35.000 They're talking about forcing people to adhere to the collective, which is you must get the vaccine regardless of the outcome.

01:18:43.000 On the right, they say vaccine mandates don't work because COVID is still spreading like crazy.

01:18:49.000 So that's a really interesting distinction between the two cultural factions.

01:18:52.000 Okay, but let me ask you this though.

01:18:56.000 The left today is also deeply meritocratic.

01:19:01.000 Not in the sense of a real meritocracy, but in the sense of they're deeply careerist and deeply obsessed with credentials.

01:19:10.000 That's not meritocracy.

01:19:11.000 Well, it's authoritarianism.

01:19:16.000 Look, getting a college degree doesn't prove you're a journalist.

01:19:21.000 But it's very individualist, like the desire to rise above the pack and tell everybody else what to do and become famous.

01:19:27.000 That, to me, seems really individualist.

01:19:29.000 No, no, no.

01:19:30.000 I mean, in North Korea, you want to be a party member.

01:19:33.000 In China, you want to be a party member.

01:19:34.000 You want to be a part of the collective at the highest ranks to prove your value to the authority.

01:19:38.000 Whereas on the right, you have a tendency towards libertarianism, which is, get off my property and leave me alone.

01:19:45.000 When someone says, go to college and get a degree, they're not saying get an education.

01:19:50.000 They're saying adhere to the cult.

01:19:52.000 Adhere to the authority.

01:19:55.000 I meet so many people who are, you know, I'm going to go to college and get a degree and then get a job.

01:19:55.000 It's remarkable to me.

01:19:59.000 I'm like, what is that degree going to do for your job or what you want to do?

01:20:02.000 Nothing.

01:20:03.000 They admit this.

01:20:04.000 They say, it's a piece of paper that proves you've done something.

01:20:07.000 Millennials my entire life have said this.

01:20:09.000 When I'm like, what's the point of getting a college degree?

01:20:12.000 Eh, it just proves you did it.

01:20:14.000 That's authoritarianism.

01:20:15.000 The adherence to the authority.

01:20:17.000 Me, I've always been libertarian.

01:20:18.000 I dropped out of high school.

01:20:19.000 I said, screw college.

01:20:20.000 I'm going to make my own way and decide for myself and I don't care what you think and you can't tell me what to do.

01:20:25.000 Conversely, or subsequently, I don't want to tell you what to do either.

01:20:27.000 Just leave me alone.

01:20:28.000 Those are the big differences.

01:20:30.000 But isn't populism and libertarianism in tension with each other?

01:20:33.000 Not necessarily.

01:20:35.000 Why do you think that?

01:20:37.000 Because libertarianism to me signifies like free trade and... But that's big L libertarianism.

01:20:45.000 You're like a civil libertarian.

01:20:48.000 Yeah, it's just a... Do you have a tendency towards live and let live or do you have a tendency towards do as you're told?

01:20:54.000 Right, what we should call liberalism except liberals don't believe in that.

01:20:57.000 New York City now St. Paul, Minneapolis, they're now enforcing a vaccine mandate.

01:20:57.000 Got it.

01:21:02.000 Cook County, the second biggest county in the country, vaccine mandate.

01:21:07.000 And we're watching record COVID cases.

01:21:10.000 So what is the point of the vaccine mandate?

01:21:13.000 They repeatedly say it works.

01:21:15.000 On TV, they say it works.

01:21:17.000 In New York, they say it works.

01:21:19.000 Well, it's not stopping COVID.

01:21:21.000 Oh, but the vaccine mandates are getting people to drop down, bend the knee, and give in to your authority. 0.68

01:21:28.000 In that sense, it is working.

01:21:30.000 And that's exactly what they mean when they say it works.

01:21:34.000 Yeah, and they're finding people.

01:21:35.000 And then I look at Luke.

01:21:37.000 I already have something lined up.

01:21:39.000 I'm sure you do.

01:21:40.000 Talking about what was happening in Quebec with, of course, the premier there setting up a tax on the unvaccinated.

01:21:46.000 He's calling it a health contribution, but in reality, it's just theft.

01:21:51.000 The Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, also says that he supports this strong measure and most likely will be implementing this kind of exploitative measure on the Canadian public as a collective.

01:22:01.000 You better be a part of our gang or we're going to steal your money. 0.97

01:22:05.000 That's essentially what's happening right now in Quebec and what's going to happen nationally throughout Canada in a few days.

01:22:10.000 Look at this article from the LA Times.

01:22:12.000 Mocking anti-vaxxers' deaths is ghoulish, yes, but necessary.

01:22:16.000 It is, yes.

01:22:17.000 No, no it isn't.

01:22:18.000 It convinces no one of anything.

01:22:20.000 What is the purpose of mocking an anti-vaxxer's death?

01:22:23.000 Seriously.

01:22:24.000 It's to gloat so that people on your side can laugh and feel like they're part of the group.

01:22:30.000 I call it a cult. 0.84

01:22:31.000 Because the way cults work is convincing a person that everyone loves you, you're right, you're on the right side, and they're the crazy people, don't listen to them, don't talk to them.

01:22:41.000 Is that a photo of the author?

01:22:42.000 No, that's a photo of a woman who died due to COVID who opposed mandates.

01:22:45.000 OK, because I was going to say that that's like of that publication to use the photo of the author would have been like clearly signaling what had happened here, which was like they knew that this piece was going to go viral for hate and they were putting a target on the back of the author.

01:23:00.000 And they like this is something no edit.

01:23:02.000 I'm saying this as an opinion editor.

01:23:03.000 This piece got a ton of track, the kind of traffic like you dream of as an editor.

01:23:07.000 I would never have let somebody write that because It's not just one editor.

01:23:11.000 it's so ghoulish and it's just going it's only going to get hate shares and essentially

01:23:17.000 it's like this this editor just did not have the back of that writer.

01:23:21.000 It's not just one editor.

01:23:22.000 I mean, how many people are probably involved in the process of this getting approved.

01:23:25.000 So if our goal is to make a better country and to help people, do you think it makes

01:23:31.000 sense to go to someone whose wife just died of covid and laugh and mock them and say your 1.00

01:23:35.000 wife's up an effing moron? 1.00

01:23:38.000 What a dumb piece of garbage. 1.00

01:23:39.000 Ha ha. 1.00

01:23:41.000 Is that going to convince them to join you?

01:23:43.000 Is it going to convince them to get vaccinated?

01:23:44.000 No.

01:23:45.000 So actually, interestingly, people don't know this, but Walmart has had a campaign to help vaccinate people and it has been incredibly successful in the two most vaccine hesitant populations, African Americans and Trump voters, as well as evangelicals.

01:24:02.000 Big overlap there.

01:24:03.000 And when they asked them, like, why are you succeeding with these populations that nobody else can get vaccinated, their answer was, we're meeting people where they're at.

01:24:11.000 And they had, they partnered with local leaders who had a lot of trust in the community, sports teams or pastors or There was one community of Latinos who were very vaccine hesitant and they found a local publication in Spanish and they had a press conference in Spanish and then partnered with an immigration center.

01:24:31.000 And so, you know, I know you guys are probably ambivalent about this, but basically what they found was that meeting people where they were at was the vaccine.

01:24:38.000 Like that was how you, it was the opposite of a mandate, opposite of shaming.

01:24:43.000 Respect.

01:24:43.000 Yeah.

01:24:44.000 Respecting people's distrust.

01:24:46.000 Because you earned their distrust by being, you know, untrustworthy.

01:24:53.000 There is zero improvement in this country by mocking people who have opposed mandates.

01:25:01.000 If someone's wife dies of COVID, and you show up, you're wearing a suit at the funeral, and you walk over and you pat him on the shoulder and shake his hand and say, I'm sorry for your loss.

01:25:09.000 I'm here if you need anything.

01:25:10.000 Here's my number.

01:25:12.000 We'll grab a drink at any time.

01:25:12.000 Seriously, give me a call.

01:25:14.000 And then you can have those conversations.

01:25:16.000 And then you can say, well, you know, look, man, I mean, you look at these numbers and people who are vaccinated are less likely to be hospitalized.

01:25:22.000 You can have a real conversation.

01:25:23.000 And the person might still disagree, but you're having a real conversation.

01:25:27.000 Are you familiar with Daryl Davis?

01:25:28.000 Yes.

01:25:29.000 Perfect example.

01:25:30.000 He's amazing. 0.91

01:25:31.000 He's the black jazz musician who said, I just want to meet these racists who hate me and never met me. 0.86

01:25:38.000 That was it. 0.92

01:25:39.000 He didn't have a plan to de-radicalize Klansmen.

01:25:41.000 He just said, I'm gonna go talk to them.

01:25:42.000 He drove the children of a Klansman to see their father in jail every week for years.

01:25:50.000 And they were still racist.

01:25:51.000 I mean, it took years for them to stop.

01:25:54.000 He's amazing.

01:25:55.000 Yeah, he was like, well, you know, how are they going to know if they don't know and you got to talk to them and that's exactly it.

01:26:01.000 So it is tough though, because we have the data and we discuss it quite a bit.

01:26:07.000 People on the left, traditionally, do not follow people on the right and don't seek to engage with them.

01:26:13.000 People on the right are the inverse.

01:26:15.000 They constantly seek to engage with people on the left and they consume news from all different political outlets.

01:26:22.000 In 2016, this is what Jack Dorsey said, left journalists, liberal journalists,

01:26:22.000 Yeah.

01:26:27.000 did not follow right-wing journalists, but right-wing journalists follow both

01:26:30.000 right and left-wing journalists.

01:26:32.000 So this is why a lot of people on the right weren't surprised that Trump won.

01:26:35.000 We had, I think it was Max Keiser, who's not a right-wing journalist or anything,

01:26:38.000 he's a financial guy, he said, it was him and Stacey.

01:26:42.000 They have the Orange Pill podcast.

01:26:43.000 You guys check it out if you're interested in crypto.

01:26:45.000 They were in Europe.

01:26:46.000 I could be getting the story wrong, but the general, I remember it as, they were in Europe and they were hearing all across the media that Trump could never win, that everyone hated him, and it was a slam dunk for Hillary.

01:26:56.000 And they flew back to the U.S.

01:26:57.000 and landed in North Carolina and saw nothing but support for Trump.

01:27:00.000 Signs everywhere.

01:27:01.000 And they immediately said, Trump's gonna win.

01:27:03.000 But why was the media so disconnected?

01:27:05.000 Because they don't follow anyone but themselves.

01:27:09.000 So we see that still today.

01:27:11.000 We actually pulled up, there's a website called ground.news, and you can put in someone's Twitter handle and see the political bias of the outlets they interact with.

01:27:21.000 When we pulled up left-wing personalities, it was like 80 to 100% left-wing.

01:27:26.000 When you pull up moderate personalities, it's mixed.

01:27:29.000 When you pull up conservatives, it leans conservative with a little bit of left in there.

01:27:34.000 But many conservative personalities followed left-wing publications.

01:27:38.000 People on the left don't do the same thing.

01:27:40.000 But again, I just want to make the point that like, that sounds like a story about politics, but it is also very much a story about class.

01:27:48.000 You know, if these journalists lived in working class neighborhoods or knew any working class people, they would not have been so shocked by Trump's victory.

01:27:56.000 But they don't.

01:27:56.000 They live in these extremely affluent, wealthy, You know, Hillary Clinton plus 20 districts.

01:28:03.000 And this is data has showed this.

01:28:04.000 A political survey found that, you know, journalists, 75 percent of journalists live not just in blue districts, but in the most blue districts.

01:28:12.000 Looks like a story about about politics, but is actually a story about class, about how, you know, the Republican Party became the party of the working class and the Democrats became the party of, you know, big tech Wall Street, which gave more money to Biden than to Trump, and then highly educated liberal elites.

01:28:26.000 Did you see the story in 2016 from Vox?

01:28:29.000 June 3rd, 2016.

01:28:31.000 Left-wing publication, Vox.com.

01:28:33.000 Democrats are replacing Republicans as the preferred party of the very wealthy, and that is true today.

01:28:39.000 And the neocon establishment conservatives, like the Lincoln Project, fled to support Democrats.

01:28:45.000 And even after 2020, the Lincoln Project said, now we're gonna go after Republicans in the Senate.

01:28:50.000 And conservatives were like, why?

01:28:52.000 We thought you were the party of Lincoln, you just opposed Trump.

01:28:55.000 No.

01:28:56.000 They're establishment politicians.

01:28:58.000 My favorite story, maybe you saw it, was during the George Floyd riots.

01:29:02.000 There was a guy in L.A.

01:29:04.000 who was cheering on the rioting, saying, yeah, yeah, get it, go, go!

01:29:08.000 Until the rioters started coming to Beverly Hills, and then he tweets something like, no, don't come to my neighborhood!

01:29:13.000 Why are you coming here?

01:29:14.000 Go downtown!

01:29:16.000 It was amazing to see the contempt and disdain for regular people as the riders were destroying the neighborhoods of the poor and he cheered them on and then panicked.

01:29:26.000 We've got to be careful that we don't get too excited about the vindication as the wealthy start to suffer as their dollar gets closer and closer to the value of zero because the French Revolution.

01:29:36.000 You just look at past revolutions where people rise up against the elite.

01:29:39.000 It can go really bad really fast and you don't know who's going to try and take power if something like that were to happen.

01:29:44.000 Oh yeah.

01:29:45.000 Rather than revel in seeing them fall, maybe we can help them and help them change their behavior.

01:29:51.000 It's not about the wealthy.

01:29:53.000 It's about the... Who are the nobles that would inbreed and then got all... Russian nobles?

01:30:03.000 Wasn't it Russians? 0.97

01:30:03.000 It was all Russians. 0.97

01:30:04.000 Pretty much all of them.

01:30:05.000 The royal families?

01:30:06.000 Yeah, there was one famous family where the guy was like...

01:30:10.000 I was like, his jaw was all messed up.

01:30:11.000 I'm like, that's how I view most of these people.

01:30:13.000 They are the product of this insular culture they've developed where they isolate themselves from regular people. 0.93

01:30:21.000 They come from old money. 0.99

01:30:22.000 They're extremely arrogant and disdainful. 0.99

01:30:26.000 And they think they're better than you.

01:30:28.000 And again, I know people, I've met people throughout my life who came from wealthy families who became, yes, became very humble.

01:30:35.000 And they were like, I'm really, you know, I know some people who are wealthy who were born into rich families who would say, you know, I'm really careful to enter politics or anything like that because I've not experienced what most of the people have gone through.

01:30:47.000 And so I don't want to assert myself over people.

01:30:48.000 I'm like, that's the right way to do it, man.

01:30:50.000 So Tim was referring to a very famous family called the Hapsburgs since like 1273, and they were notoriously an inbreeding family and developed this weird lip jaw deformity looking thing.

01:31:01.000 So check out the Hapsburg.

01:31:02.000 Or don't.

01:31:03.000 Most monarchies are inbred.

01:31:05.000 Yeah, and they would do that to maintain, keep wealth within the family.

01:31:08.000 You know, you don't have to sell half your wealth to your son's wife if his wife is your daughter.

01:31:14.000 Yeah.

01:31:15.000 Or cousin. 0.94

01:31:16.000 Gross.

01:31:16.000 I don't know, I'm fairly optimistic when I see, look, the success that we have.

01:31:20.000 Everybody who's a member at TimCast.com, everybody who supports us in Super Chats, we're growing, we're hiring, we're expanding, we're doing more every single day.

01:31:28.000 As a news organization, how do we, like you were saying, take a subscription model?

01:31:33.000 We have a core group of people that like what we do.

01:31:36.000 Fortunately, what you do, journalist-wise, is rip on everybody that's messing up, for the most part.

01:31:41.000 So maybe you don't have to target a type of person.

01:31:44.000 You know how the New York Times is going out of their way to supplant these Well, look, I just... I'm anti-authoritarian.

01:31:53.000 That's about it.

01:31:54.000 So if a person is a working-class person, but they use their voice to try and force other people to bend the knee, I'm gonna criticize them. 0.97

01:32:04.000 For the most part, though, I'm more concerned with the power structures themselves and the ideas, which is why, in a lot of stories, we don't say the person's name.

01:32:11.000 Or we'll specifically reference a person who did this instead of calling out someone individually.

01:32:15.000 I don't care about an individual, I care about the structure and the system and the person.

01:32:19.000 But there are some people who are so high profile we talk about them.

01:32:21.000 It's, it's, it's, you know, nobody's perfect, right?

01:32:24.000 It's, it's not, it's not a perfect, uh... Yeah, there's no simple way to just ignore everybody.

01:32:29.000 But there are a lot of people, especially on YouTube and in the political space, who their whole career is insulting and targeting a single person.

01:32:36.000 Oh, it gets so old so fast.

01:32:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:39.000 But, you know, look, I'm optimistic.

01:32:41.000 I see the populist growth, the expansion, success.

01:32:45.000 And I think the censorship may be bad, but, I don't know, Rumble's doing really well.

01:32:49.000 There's more systems on the rise.

01:32:50.000 I don't think, you know, it's like all of these movies and stories and hero's journeys, all these comic books about a villain who wants to take over the world, and they always fail.

01:33:01.000 You cannot, as an individual, no single human is smart enough to seize control of everything, and they fail every time they try.

01:33:08.000 Oh yeah, and if they were to succeed, they'd be offed by the number two in command in a holy second, and then that guy would be offed by the number three, who would become the new... You saw it in the Roman Empire, that's why we don't aim for centralization of authority. 0.52

01:33:20.000 Yep.

01:33:21.000 There will come a day where, you know, I walk into the room, and then everyone, you know, takes a rubber mallet and hits me in the back, and then Ian walks over and hits me, and I say, I look up and I say, You too, Ian?

01:33:33.000 Your time has come!

01:33:35.000 You too, Ian?

01:33:36.000 Let me get my hat!

01:33:38.000 That's two.

01:33:40.000 All right, all right, but until that day, we'll be like old.

01:33:44.000 Smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, go to TimCast.com, be a member.

01:33:48.000 We're gonna have that member segment coming up at 11 p.m.

01:33:50.000 But we're gonna go to Super Chats right now and take your guys's questions and comments.

01:33:54.000 It's gonna be a whole lot of fun.

01:33:55.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

01:33:59.000 Forlorn Vox says, you lads better stock up.

01:34:02.000 They're about to push VAX mandates for truck drivers this Friday.

01:34:05.000 Yeah.

01:34:08.000 So that's why, um, you know, today I shouted out safeandreadymeals.com, emergency food supplies.

01:34:13.000 It's one of our sponsors.

01:34:14.000 I almost, I don't shout them out all that often because it's like, it's an emergency food bucket, but store shelves are running empty.

01:34:20.000 Inflation is up 7%.

01:34:22.000 It really feels like everything is, you know, getting worse.

01:34:26.000 And if they vax mandate truckers, you ain't getting nothing.

01:34:29.000 I will say we went to the store the other day and we saw empty shelves.

01:34:32.000 I was like, I don't know if this is normal.

01:34:33.000 I don't know if it's a stock date, but I've never seen this before.

01:34:36.000 And the other thing I would- Where was the store?

01:34:38.000 That was right in Frederick.

01:34:39.000 Yeah, right in my neighborhood.

01:34:39.000 Wow.

01:34:40.000 But I don't get it.

01:34:41.000 Truckers are alone in their trucks.

01:34:43.000 Why do they need a vaccine?

01:34:46.000 Authoritarianism.

01:34:47.000 It doesn't do anything other than say to the person, you do as you're told or else.

01:34:53.000 Do it.

01:34:53.000 Yeah, I was going to say, though, that there have been places where they've tried to put these VAX mandates in place and they have had to walk them back.

01:34:59.000 They did it at my dad's company because they were going to lose a significant percentage of their highly trained, you know, workers.

01:35:05.000 They're like, oh, no, we can't do this.

01:35:06.000 All right.

01:35:06.000 I guess we have to walk it back.

01:35:08.000 So I'm very optimistic that truck drivers are going to be exerting the pressure to get them to stop because this needs to end.

01:35:15.000 Here's a funny one.

01:35:16.000 Nolan Conway says, Hey Tim, have Carl Benjamin on.

01:35:18.000 I think the reason we're getting that comment is because your last name is Unger Sargon and Carl Benjamin goes by Sargon of Akkad.

01:35:25.000 Or he used to.

01:35:26.000 Yeah, I am the lesser Sargon.

01:35:29.000 Well, you know, he's in the UK.

01:35:32.000 Carl's a good friend.

01:35:33.000 He's always welcome to come on the show.

01:35:36.000 Sargon on Sargon.

01:35:37.000 I would love to get Carl and Count Dankula.

01:35:40.000 I don't know him.

01:35:41.000 What's his deal?

01:35:42.000 Is he on Twitter?

01:35:43.000 No, he's banned from Twitter.

01:35:47.000 He was relatively controversial like three or four years ago for getting banned for saying some off-color, well you could argue they're off-color comments, on another platform.

01:35:55.000 Or on another person's show.

01:35:58.000 And then they came and they banned his channel.

01:36:00.000 And it was really, really scandalous.

01:36:03.000 John Chambers has a good idea.

01:36:04.000 He says you need an event January 22nd as many of us are coming to DC for the January 23rd anti-mandate march.

01:36:10.000 Well, we... What?

01:36:13.000 We do have a really big, sorry I wasn't sure if you were gonna throw it to her, but I was gonna say we do have a really big show planned for that Monday because people are gonna be in town for that rally and that's kind of exciting.

01:36:23.000 Oh, we do have a big show planned?

01:36:25.000 Yes, it's big.

01:36:27.000 I know you know what I'm talking about.

01:36:27.000 It's really big.

01:36:29.000 Yeah, it's gonna be great.

01:36:31.000 It's okay, I know what you're talking about.

01:36:31.000 Maybe!

01:36:34.000 It's alright.

01:36:35.000 Well, we should definitely reach out to the people at the event.

01:36:35.000 All right.

01:36:37.000 Yeah, that's a really good idea.

01:36:39.000 I think I'm going to be attending that event myself.

01:36:39.000 I like that.

01:36:42.000 Dr. Malone, Peter McCullough, the Weinsteins.

01:36:45.000 There's a surprise celebrity guest as well that they're kind of telling, like, say it's going to be big.

01:36:51.000 I think Robert Kennedy Jr.

01:36:52.000 as well.

01:36:53.000 I don't know if he's 100% confirmed, but it's going to be a lot of people.

01:36:56.000 I'm going to be there, definitely.

01:36:58.000 What day is it, Saturday?

01:37:00.000 It's a Saturday, absolutely.

01:37:01.000 So that Friday is the 22nd.

01:37:03.000 I wonder if any of y'all who are going to be at that event are going to come on the show?

01:37:09.000 Let's get all three of them.

01:37:10.000 Let's get McCullough.

01:37:11.000 Let's get Weinstein.

01:37:13.000 Let's get Malone.

01:37:14.000 That'd be incredible.

01:37:14.000 All three here.

01:37:16.000 And Robert Kennedy Jr.

01:37:17.000 Let's set up extra cameras.

01:37:18.000 That'd be huge.

01:37:20.000 Talk about asking for trouble on YouTube, but I'm down for it.

01:37:24.000 Absolutely.

01:37:25.000 That'd be fantastic.

01:37:26.000 Super fun.

01:37:27.000 But we'll talk about mandates.

01:37:28.000 We'll talk about policy.

01:37:29.000 And then, you know, we can do a members-only, maybe like a Rumble exclusive before or after the show, talking about other issues.

01:37:38.000 That'd be really great.

01:37:40.000 So if y'all are listening and y'all are down, I'll hit some of these people up.

01:37:45.000 That'd be fantastic.

01:37:45.000 Yeah, it'd be fun.

01:37:46.000 Also, Weinstein, if you ever need it.

01:37:49.000 Like Einstein.

01:37:50.000 The smart guys are Weinsteins.

01:37:51.000 Not Weinstein, like Epstein.

01:37:53.000 That's one way to remember.

01:37:55.000 That's fair.

01:37:56.000 Or was it like a Weinstein?

01:37:58.000 He was big in the news.

01:37:58.000 We Jews gotta be clear what kind of Jews we are these days.

01:38:01.000 Yeah, let's be crystal clear.

01:38:03.000 It would be like an Epstein.

01:38:04.000 You'd be like a Weinstein.

01:38:05.000 An Einstein.

01:38:06.000 Yeah, I like that.

01:38:07.000 I approve that.

01:38:08.000 That's nice.

01:38:08.000 That's hard.

01:38:09.000 Well, this is crazy.

01:38:10.000 Andrew Kolesar says spin doctors have ousted their star bassist Mark White for refusing to get the jab.

01:38:16.000 He's on Instagram Mark B. White.

01:38:18.000 Also check out my music.

01:38:19.000 I love the Spin Doctors, man.

01:38:21.000 At least in the 90s.

01:38:22.000 Name more than one song.

01:38:23.000 Little Miss Can't Be Wrong, Two Princes, Jimmy... Pocket Full of Kryptonite. 0.62

01:38:28.000 Dude, that album is awesome.

01:38:30.000 Pocket Full of Kryptonite.

01:38:31.000 What's the one song everyone knows from them?

01:38:34.000 What Time Is It?

01:38:35.000 No.

01:38:36.000 No.

01:38:36.000 Little Miss Can't Be Wrong.

01:38:37.000 Or Two Princes.

01:38:38.000 Those other two huge hits.

01:38:39.000 Two Princes?

01:38:40.000 Yeah.

01:38:41.000 Which one?

01:38:41.000 That's that one.

01:38:42.000 Yeah, that one.

01:38:43.000 Two Princes.

01:38:44.000 Yeah, that one.

01:38:45.000 All right.

01:38:46.000 That might be a little misleading.

01:38:51.000 Johnny California says, Vice was cool back when all they did was hang out in Columbia.

01:38:56.000 Doing donkeys for less.

01:38:58.000 Vice used to be fun. 1.00

01:39:00.000 You know, they would go on the ground and explore weird things.

01:39:03.000 Bulletproof clothing, the sex shop in Japan, scopolamine.

01:39:07.000 And now they're all just ultra-woke tribalists.

01:39:11.000 The big banks came in.

01:39:12.000 No, that is what, yeah, so I was told by someone who was a higher up at a vice, the investors were concerned about negative press and cancel culture, so they told the executives, either you go woke and embrace feminism or we revolt. 0.67

01:39:26.000 And so they did.

01:39:28.000 And they were like, all right, that's what we'll do.

01:39:29.000 And it was around, you know, 2014 or so.

01:39:31.000 Brought to you by Bank of America.

01:39:34.000 Wraith Customs Firearm says, Luke, don't tase me, bro.

01:39:37.000 They tased.

01:39:38.000 Yeah, it was pretty funny.

01:39:40.000 It wasn't like a long taser.

01:39:41.000 It was like, he surprised us with it too, because we were there standing.

01:39:45.000 And we were filming and then out of nowhere, he's like, okay, I'm going to teach you this stuff.

01:39:50.000 And he's like, I came out of nowhere. And he didn't say like, hey, get prepared. We're going

01:39:55.000 to taser you. Do you have any heart conditions? He was just a wild, crazy guy who was super

01:40:00.000 interesting and super fun. And I wish we would have released that video because it was just wild.

01:40:06.000 And then literally me and Tim got sat together.

01:40:10.000 We didn't know what was going on.

01:40:11.000 He liked surprises this guy Tim was sitting back back to back to me and then he throws something and we And he and then he says we're gonna see who stays here longer.

01:40:22.000 I'm like, all right It was like five seconds.

01:40:26.000 Yeah, and we were both like nope.

01:40:27.000 Yeah, I know some like serious tear gas which is Alright, Brett S says congrats to Tim Pool's Beanie for making it into iTunes number one hip-hop song, Controlled, by Bryson Gray featuring Anomaly.

01:40:41.000 And then he says something I can't read because it's in Polish.

01:40:45.000 Na zdrowie?

01:40:47.000 Na zdrowie!

01:40:48.000 Oh yeah, na zdrowie, how do you say that?

01:40:49.000 What does that mean?

01:40:52.000 You don't want to know.

01:40:52.000 It's really bad.

01:40:55.000 It's like, whoa.

01:40:57.000 He's lying.

01:40:58.000 Luke's lying.

01:40:59.000 He's making it up.

01:41:01.000 I am not a good liar.

01:41:03.000 It says, keep it up guys.

01:41:04.000 That's what it means.

01:41:06.000 Thank you, sir.

01:41:06.000 Maybe.

01:41:07.000 How do you know?

01:41:08.000 You don't know Polish.

01:41:09.000 Well, Ian, can Google translate?

01:41:11.000 I'm translating it right now.

01:41:12.000 How do you spell that?

01:41:14.000 Don't tell them.

01:41:15.000 It's bad.

01:41:15.000 I don't know how to spell it.

01:41:18.000 Hunter says, hi Tim K, a slight correction to something said the other day with Brandon.

01:41:22.000 You did not need a license in Texas to buy a handgun in Texas before constitutional carry just to carry one in public.

01:41:28.000 Uh, oh really?

01:41:30.000 I read somewhere that you need to take a handgun course.

01:41:32.000 You have to get like a special training or something.

01:41:34.000 You know, along those lines, I've been talking a lot about student loans and compound interest and how students are getting rocked by it.

01:41:41.000 Most student loans, I found this out, someone messaged me on Twitter, thank you for sending this, are not compoundly interested.

01:41:46.000 They're just standard interest.

01:41:47.000 I didn't know that, but that's most student loans are standard interest and not compound.

01:41:51.000 Grant Thompson, he's got some words for you.

01:41:53.000 He says...

01:41:53.000 says this woman didn't watch the trial. Only the prosecution stated that he died of strangulation

01:41:58.000 despite him having a lethal drug dose and enlarged heart COVID-19 and O2 saturated blood

01:42:03.000 e.g. he could breathe.

01:42:07.000 Well my understanding from having watched the trial was that the based on his not to

01:42:12.000 speak ill of the dead but his habitual drug use that that that the amount that he had

01:42:17.000 ingested beforehand would not have been enough to cause cardiac arrest and that the cardiac

01:42:21.000 arrest was caused by the strangulation and that that.

01:42:24.000 Some part of that was not disputed by the prosecution, but thank you for the correction, sir.

01:42:28.000 Didn't he have a lethal dose of fentanyl?

01:42:30.000 I thought he did, yeah.

01:42:31.000 Like three times lethal dose?

01:42:32.000 He for sure had an intoxicative dose.

01:42:34.000 Yeah, but the prosecution stipulated that based on the level of his habitual use, which they got from one of the witnesses who was his girlfriend, and he was a very big man, and his level of muscularity and his workout, et cetera, that that would not have been lethal.

01:42:53.000 I'll tell you my thoughts right away.

01:42:55.000 You shouldn't go to prison for doing drugs.

01:42:59.000 None of this should have happened over a counterfeit bill.

01:43:02.000 But he was behind the wheel of a car while chewing a speedball.

01:43:05.000 And this is what got him pulled out and detained.

01:43:08.000 And then if you watch the body camera footage, he's resisting arrest.

01:43:12.000 The first time?

01:43:14.000 The first.

01:43:16.000 Oh, you mean when he was arrested?

01:43:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:43:18.000 So he's sitting in the SUV, chewing on a speedball behind the wheel of a car.

01:43:22.000 And, you know, I've often, like, I've argued the libertarian point of, like, people should be allowed to do drugs.

01:43:26.000 Everyone comes back with duties behind the wheel of a car.

01:43:28.000 An SUV, no less.

01:43:29.000 And I'm like, eh, it's a good point, man.

01:43:32.000 Like, I'm all for allowing people to do whatever recreational drugs they want, but you can't drive if you're doing it.

01:43:37.000 And so the cops pulled him out to detain him.

01:43:39.000 When they brought him to the police SUV, he kicked his way out of the car screaming, put

01:43:43.000 me on the ground, put me on the ground, put me on the ground three times.

01:43:45.000 And they did.

01:43:47.000 Whether or not that warrants four people going to prison for the rest of their lives, I honestly

01:43:51.000 don't think so.

01:43:52.000 I do think there's fault.

01:43:53.000 Well, there was, I mean, when you watch the video, all of that could be true.

01:43:57.000 He could have even put his knee on his neck until he was subdued.

01:44:01.000 I think the problem was he was subdued and he kept his knee on his neck for five minutes after he was no longer moving.

01:44:08.000 That's true.

01:44:09.000 And it's like, what is going through your head at that point when this person is saying, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, and then totally passed out under your knee?

01:44:17.000 At what point do you have criminal liability for someone's life?

01:44:20.000 But is it life in prison or is it manslaughter in a few years?

01:44:26.000 I mean, like how is justice served by four people, the three rookie cops who were just who showed up confused, having no idea what's going on, now all going to prison for the rest of their lives?

01:44:37.000 Okay, so I don't I as a person who doesn't, you know, I'm sort of very ambivalent about the carceral state, I hear that point at the same time, like, I think we have to say that human life is infinitely precious and when you participate in something that steals one as a society we have to have a way to say like you were there to serve and protect and you stole a life and and it was like the look on their face okay I'm like a lefty so of course like you come back to the compassion and the feeling whatever but the looks on their their imperviousness to his suffering to the point where they allowed him to literally die like they stole his life when

01:45:12.000 At any moment during those nine minutes someone could have intervened and they didn't let anybody intervene.

01:45:17.000 This is the problem I have with authoritarianism and collectivism.

01:45:22.000 Those three cops, not Chauvin, were doing as they were told.

01:45:26.000 I don't know if they deserved to go to life in prison because they were just doofy and just sitting there confused and not listening.

01:45:30.000 But have they been sentenced to life in prison?

01:45:32.000 Well, they're all getting, I think, federal civil rights charges.

01:45:36.000 So, okay, maybe it's a little hyperbolic.

01:45:38.000 Yeah, I don't think they're going to get life in prison.

01:45:40.000 But I think they're going to get decades.

01:45:42.000 I mean, like, Chauvin's never getting out.

01:45:44.000 I don't know, is this civil rights abuse?

01:45:46.000 I don't know what the sentence for that is, but it's not murder.

01:45:48.000 They're all charged with murder, aren't they?

01:45:50.000 Am I wrong about that?

01:45:51.000 I'm pretty sure they're all going to get a murder charge and then a federal charge on top.

01:45:54.000 And then they're probably going to get a state prison sentence and then transfer to a federal prison afterwards.

01:45:58.000 Like, I think the whole prison system is busted up.

01:46:01.000 And so, you know, my problem with all of this is that the Black Lives Matter groups say, you know, abolish prisons, abolish police.

01:46:08.000 And then the moment they get a court victory, they cheer and say, lock them up!

01:46:12.000 I don't want to be one of those. I'm like, you know, I think about human life and the preciousness

01:46:16.000 I I get that's a that's a risky path to go down because like

01:46:20.000 Stealing someone's life and doing something that might create a situation where it's harder for them to survive

01:46:26.000 are very different Like if my if living my most just life means that there's

01:46:30.000 no food for those people. I didn't steal life from them They're just going to starve because I was the one that beat the system.

01:46:37.000 No, but in that case, your life is infinitely precious as well.

01:46:41.000 Anything you do to keep yourself alive, I think is consistent with that principle.

01:46:46.000 I mean, in the Torah, you have to save yourself before you save others.

01:46:51.000 I think one of the problems I see with the whole Chauvin thing, and I don't want to go too long on this because it's an old issue and we've got a lot of questions, but when the prosecution's defense said, according to protocol, Chauvin was entitled to use more force than he did use, that showed restraint.

01:47:07.000 But all of his bosses who had trained him disputed that.

01:47:12.000 So this was the thing that was so amazing to me about this trial.

01:47:16.000 And I really I agree.

01:47:17.000 You know, I'm sure actually I'm sure viewers are dying to hear what you what you think about it.

01:47:21.000 But to me, it seemed like it was a trial about the nature of policing.

01:47:24.000 And it was the prosecution that had an optimistic view of policing in America and said, this is not what it means to be a cop.

01:47:30.000 To be a cop is an honorable position.

01:47:32.000 And they brought on cops who broke the blue wall for the first time to say this is not what we were trained to do.

01:47:38.000 And it was the defense who had this pessimistic, ugly view of what it means to be a police officer who are like, no,

01:47:44.000 this was just like policing, you know, as it's supposed to be.

01:47:46.000 So do you think that what we got was making an example of someone?

01:47:50.000 No.

01:47:52.000 I mean, those three other cops who didn't have their knee on their neck, should they be charged for this?

01:47:55.000 Not for murder, no.

01:47:57.000 But they're all being charged for it.

01:47:58.000 Yeah, so that would be, I think, an overstatement.

01:48:00.000 But, um...

01:48:01.000 Chauvin showed up late.

01:48:02.000 He showed up after everything had already happened, and they said,

01:48:05.000 we need help subduing this guy, and then he walked over and he put him in the restraint, where...

01:48:10.000 It's so complicated to rehash, so maybe we shouldn't, but...

01:48:13.000 It wasn't just that his knee was on his neck for nine minutes.

01:48:15.000 That was debunked in the trial.

01:48:17.000 His knee was on the back and the neck back and forth for a certain amount of time.

01:48:21.000 That doesn't change the fact that he could have stopped at any moment and provided medical treatment or anything, so that argument I understand.

01:48:26.000 But I think what we have right now in our judicial system is retribution to placate rioters, and that's what we've been getting across the board.

01:48:34.000 That's why the Kyle Rittenhouse trial was so monumentous for a lot of people.

01:48:37.000 Okay, so I see it a little bit differently.

01:48:39.000 Okay, leaving Floyd aside, to me that week where we had the Rittenhouse trial come in, Verdict come in, and then the Ahmad Arbery trial come in.

01:48:47.000 Which was wrong?

01:48:48.000 What they did.

01:48:49.000 No, the conviction, the sentencing is all wrong.

01:48:52.000 Oh, really?

01:48:53.000 The guy who filmed it, who had nothing to do with the two McMichaels, is going to prison for his- No, but what about the McMichaels?

01:48:59.000 So that's a whole philosophical debate.

01:49:01.000 I mean, if the police come to your house and say, we need you to help stop this guy, he's a burglary suspect, he's a felon, and then you see the guy running down the street after your neighbor says he broke into his house, or he was seen trespassing in the house, which makes him a felony burglary suspect, some people are gonna say, okay, this is the guy the cops were looking for, we're gonna go stop him.

01:49:20.000 What do you think?

01:49:22.000 I think you shouldn't get in your truck and go chase a guy down.

01:49:25.000 You should call the cops.

01:49:26.000 But it's not an issue about what I think.

01:49:28.000 It's an issue of do these guys deserve life in prison after the... These are some, you know, look, I'm not trying to be mean, but dumb yokel guys in their community that has been plagued by burglaries. 0.98

01:49:37.000 The burglaries were so intense that a gun had been stolen from one of, I believe, one of their trucks only three weeks prior. 0.96

01:49:43.000 So there was a fear that whoever the suspect was was armed.

01:49:46.000 The neighbor had just seen this guy enter his property in the middle of the night, illegally.

01:49:51.000 It's burglary when you enter a property in this jurisdiction.

01:49:54.000 And then the police go door to door and say, this is the guy we're looking for.

01:49:58.000 And then one day these guys are like, that's him!

01:50:00.000 The guy the cops are looking for who's been terrorizing the neighborhood.

01:50:04.000 So, the younger McMichael grabs a shotgun.

01:50:06.000 They flank the guy.

01:50:07.000 Ahmaud Arbery is running towards them.

01:50:10.000 He could have run through the grass, he could have done a lot of things.

01:50:12.000 Granted, if someone pulls a gun on me, I might be like, I'm gonna subdue them too.

01:50:17.000 Arbery goes around the truck and then grabs the shotgun from Travis McMichael and fights for it.

01:50:22.000 The gun goes off in the struggle, killing Ahmaud Arbery.

01:50:25.000 Now, you don't have an argument about whether they were justified in trying to do a citizen's arrest based on the law, and that's where the real question came up in the conviction.

01:50:34.000 But look at what happened to the guy who followed behind.

01:50:36.000 A guy saw what was going on, saw them chasing after him in the car, and he said, I'm gonna film this.

01:50:43.000 And because he filmed it, the criminal trial happened in the first place.

01:50:46.000 So they're putting this guy in prison for the rest of his life.

01:50:49.000 The whole thing is busted and broken, and it was just to placate rioters.

01:50:54.000 Okay, so I see it a little bit differently and it's funny because I, so the thing that I thought was so interesting was, I think he was lynched. 0.92

01:51:02.000 I think they chased him down and killed him because they wouldn't have made the mistake about who it was if he wasn't black.

01:51:09.000 What mistake did they make? 0.96

01:51:11.000 That was the guy the police said they were looking for.

01:51:14.000 He's on security camera footage illegally entering the property.

01:51:16.000 But he had not stolen anything.

01:51:18.000 But that's not what makes you a felony burglary suspect, right?

01:51:21.000 So stuff had gone missing, a gun had gotten stolen, power tools had been stolen, but that night prior... So the police said, we're looking for this guy, but he had not actually stolen anything from the property that he had entered, which was like this construction site, essentially.

01:51:34.000 But that doesn't... that's not relevant to the case.

01:51:36.000 The prosecution even said he was a felony burglary suspect.

01:51:39.000 So this is a mistake I made, and we actually had a couple lawyers on.

01:51:42.000 I said, look, a guy who trespasses shouldn't be chased down and then, you know, confront him.

01:51:47.000 And I think it was Andrew Branca who said, no, he was a felony burglary suspect, irrespective to whether or not someone saw him on camera in a building.

01:51:55.000 There was a string of burglaries throughout the neighborhood.

01:51:58.000 He was the suspect.

01:51:59.000 That's what the police told the McMichaels.

01:52:01.000 So they said, that's the guy the cops are looking for.

01:52:04.000 And they explained that their intention was to stop him.

01:52:06.000 If you watch the video, they pull in front of him.

01:52:09.000 They don't chase him down.

01:52:10.000 And Ahmaud Arbery runs towards them and goes around the right side of the truck and then flanks left and grabs the shotgun.

01:52:18.000 Well, because they were aiming it at him.

01:52:19.000 They were trying to stop him.

01:52:20.000 Well, we can't see that.

01:52:22.000 We can't see if Travis McMichael actually aimed the shotgun at Ahmaud Arbery.

01:52:25.000 What we can see is he turns right around the truck and then turns left.

01:52:29.000 And then the next thing you see is they're fighting over the shotgun.

01:52:31.000 Right, but if people are trying to arrest you and they have a gun, it's a reasonable thing to... But to me, the point I wanted to make is that the Rittenhouse trial was so disgustingly politicized and got so much attention In a book?

01:52:45.000 liberals who were trying to cast not just Kyle Rittenhouse, but anyone who's defended him as white supremacists, right?

01:52:51.000 They were even, they tried so hard to give the impression that he had killed black people, right?

01:52:55.000 This actually got misreported in one outlet. 0.76

01:52:58.000 Yes, it was in a book.

01:53:00.000 It's in a book. 0.99

01:53:00.000 That he killed three black people. 0.99

01:53:02.000 Even in the more legitimate outlets, what they did was they would say, you know, he shot three people and killed two at a Black Lives Matter rally, right? 0.56

01:53:10.000 To try to give the impression, even if they weren't outright saying it.

01:53:13.000 And it was so disgustingly politicized in that way. 0.98

01:53:15.000 And I met so many liberals who truly believed that he had shot black people. 0.97

01:53:21.000 And what I would say, no, he shot a pedophile, a domestic abuser, and a guy who punched his grandmother earlier that week. 0.94

01:53:28.000 They would be like, oh, I'm not following it closely.

01:53:30.000 I'm not following it closely.

01:53:31.000 And I'm like, oh, you're following it closely enough to get it wrong, right?

01:53:34.000 But then when the Ahmaud Arbery verdict came in, I was watching Fox News all day, and they were cheering that verdict.

01:53:42.000 And every conservative I know was saying, like, those men got what they deserved.

01:53:47.000 They chased that boy down. 0.99

01:53:48.000 Because they're cowards. 1.00

01:53:50.000 Well, OK. 1.00

01:53:50.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:53:52.000 I really want to—sorry to interrupt, but I want to stress this. 0.96

01:53:54.000 Conservatives, these people, all of them who spoke out and cheered on that verdict, are cowards who are too scared to speak out.

01:54:01.000 When the George Floyd thing happened, on principle, many people on the right were like, that's clearly wrong, we can see his knee on his neck.

01:54:06.000 And then when the body camera footage came out and more context came out, a lot of people on the right were like, well, I was wrong about that.

01:54:12.000 For me to see everything we covered in the Ahmed Arbery case, which is not as, it's not clear-cut.

01:54:19.000 The media was reporting it just like Rittenhouse, that it was a lynching, that white guys, white guys chased down a jogger.

01:54:24.000 This guy was not a jogger.

01:54:25.000 That is a lie. 0.94

01:54:26.000 And people on the right gleefully were like, see, this proves the system works because they're cowards and they're scared. 0.93

01:54:33.000 They're still scared.

01:54:34.000 They will still pedal the line for the left, but they want to do it at the speed limit.

01:54:37.000 That's the difference.

01:54:38.000 That's the difference between the right and the left for the most part.

01:54:42.000 I took a look at... I covered the Ahmaud Arbery story.

01:54:45.000 We had a guy in the studio screaming at me, calling me racist, because I dared say any of this stuff.

01:54:49.000 But I don't care what he thinks.

01:54:51.000 I don't care what Tulsi Gabbard thinks, because she called it the right verdict.

01:54:54.000 I don't care what Fox News says.

01:54:55.000 They are all wrong.

01:54:56.000 When it came down to the conviction on Ahmaud Arbery, what happened was, the prosecutor said, There's a citizen's arrest law that says you are allowed to perform a citizen's arrest if you have probable cause and you witnessed a crime take place.

01:55:13.000 However, if it's a felony, you need only probable cause.

01:55:17.000 A reasonable person concludes, if there is a felony suspect, you need not have witnessed the crime.

01:55:21.000 But the prosecutor argued, no, it's one provision, therefore, regardless of whether or not it's a felony, you had to have witnessed it.

01:55:30.000 On that instruction from the judge, the jury said, well, in that case, they're guilty.

01:55:35.000 However, if you actually read the law, it says if someone is trying to citizens arrest a felony suspect, they don't need to have witnessed the crime. 0.99

01:55:42.000 In which case, the McMichaels are stupid, but they were genuinely chasing down a felony suspect as they were informed by the police. 0.99

01:55:48.000 But do they know that law or does it not matter? 1.00

01:55:50.000 I don't think they knew much about the law at all other than the police said we're looking for this

01:55:55.000 guy and they said we're going to stop him. And they were concerned he was the guy who had stolen

01:55:58.000 the gun from their truck. So if someone steals a gun from your truck, the gun is missing,

01:56:02.000 you've reported it missing. And then you're told by the cops, we think that the guy who did it,

01:56:06.000 are you going to show up unarmed? No, definitely not. So what ends up happening is

01:56:10.000 all I all I really need to say, Oh, well, what should we remember?

01:56:14.000 Otherwise, we'll just keep going.

01:56:16.000 The fact that the guy who filmed it, which allowed the court case to happen, got life in prison, and they're cheering for it, just says to me, you need only see that point.

01:56:25.000 And then you need to then question the rest of the case.

01:56:28.000 This guy got in his car and said, I'm going to film this.

01:56:30.000 And that's all he did.

01:56:32.000 And they said, we're going to charge you with murder now.

01:56:34.000 And he was like, but I didn't do anything.

01:56:36.000 We don't care. 0.94

01:56:37.000 We want you to rot and suffer because we're scared of riots. 0.98

01:56:40.000 That's the same thing with McMichaels. 1.00

01:56:41.000 They're doofy, dopey, yokel guys who are told by the cops, this is a burglary suspect, they were stupid for doing it, but I don't think they lynched anybody, I don't think they were intentionally trying to cause harm, and sending them to prison for the rest of their lives does not serve justice. 0.99

01:56:54.000 But people don't, they don't care. 1.00

01:56:57.000 They want to feel good.

01:56:58.000 They want to feel like the system works.

01:56:59.000 Fox News doesn't want to be perceived as racist.

01:57:02.000 So when they cheer for Kyle Rittenhouse, they get scared that too many people are going to be like, why are you cheering for this guy?

01:57:07.000 They got their victory.

01:57:08.000 So then they come out and they can, they can say, see, Ahmaud Arbery, that case was ruled correctly.

01:57:13.000 And then we sit down with lawyers and they're like, look at the facts.

01:57:16.000 And I'm like, wow, that was wrong.

01:57:17.000 So anyway, we'll keep going.

01:57:19.000 So I'll read some more super chats and, you know, cause otherwise we're going to go too long.

01:57:23.000 Tara says, Tim, calories in calories out has been debunked.

01:57:27.000 Please watch fat fiction on YouTube.

01:57:30.000 It's very eye-opening into how calories from sugar is dangerous.

01:57:33.000 I believe you are correct.

01:57:35.000 I'm not a nutritionist but when I say you can't gain weight if you don't eat the calories, I'm still pretty sure that's a fact.

01:57:41.000 You can't gain weight by just breathing air.

01:57:44.000 Um, so if you are not consuming calories, you can't gain weight.

01:57:48.000 But, I think, you know, I hear people like Neil deGrasse Tyson say, calories in, calories out, and I'm like, that's not true, man.

01:57:54.000 I cut out sugar, just sugar, and I would like, eat tons of salami, and I'm losing weight.

01:57:59.000 Yeah, a calorie is a heat, a measurement of heat, that's produced when your body digests a piece of food.

01:58:04.000 So, you get a lot of nutrition with specific foods, Then the food's broken down.

01:58:09.000 There might be the same amount of heat produced with, like, a piece of sugar, but all that nutrition is there with the broccoli.

01:58:15.000 Also, the sugar industry, absolutely very huge, very corrupt, and has caused a lot of horrible things in our society by buying off regulators and government bureaucrats.

01:58:25.000 Brian Doyce has great guests.

01:58:27.000 Really poignant conversation tonight.

01:58:28.000 Thanks, Timcast peeps.

01:58:29.000 I agree.

01:58:30.000 I think this has actually been a fantastic conversation about everything.

01:58:33.000 It's wonderful.

01:58:35.000 Cristina H says, I'd love to see Anomaly and or Bryson Gray on your show.

01:58:39.000 Happy Wednesday.

01:58:39.000 Love y'all.

01:58:40.000 I'd like to see them both on the show.

01:58:41.000 Yeah, that'd be fun.

01:58:42.000 Yeah We could actually, what if we had them on a Friday and they performed the song where they mentioned My Beanie?

01:58:47.000 Yeah, that's kind of my thought.

01:58:49.000 Flattery will get you everything apparently.

01:58:51.000 Literally everything, yeah.

01:58:52.000 Do you have a copy of your book by any chance?

01:58:54.000 Did you bring one?

01:58:54.000 I can't believe I forgot!

01:58:55.000 I would love to have you and Chloe Valderate.

01:58:58.000 Do you know Chloe Valderate?

01:58:59.000 I'm actually on the board of her Theory of Enchantment.

01:59:02.000 Oh yeah!

01:59:03.000 She's amazing.

01:59:04.000 You guys have a very cool vibe.

01:59:06.000 Yeah, we're very close.

01:59:07.000 We're very good friends.

01:59:08.000 Awesome.

01:59:09.000 Rocky says, Ian, I love you, man, but I cannot listen to you talk about sugar being a toxin, but actively pursue psychedelics.

01:59:15.000 No one has died from a bad cake trip.

01:59:17.000 That's, that's, that's wrong.

01:59:19.000 That's not true.

01:59:20.000 That's not true.

01:59:21.000 Heart disease and come on, choking?

01:59:23.000 You gotta be careful.

01:59:24.000 Hey, all things in moderation.

01:59:26.000 I'm not saying don't ever touch sucrose, but treat it like a, like a powerful drug because it can, it makes you hunger for it.

01:59:31.000 It's a different kind of addiction.

01:59:33.000 Not where you think like, I want that.

01:59:35.000 It's just like, you're drawn towards it.

01:59:37.000 So you got to watch out for that stuff.

01:59:38.000 And same thing with psychedelics or any kind of drug.

01:59:41.000 If you're ever going to experiment with any of that, be reasonable, you know, and research it.

01:59:47.000 I'm not advocating for that kind of thing, but you got to small doses, man, with food or with drug or with any kind of thing.

01:59:54.000 Silently in Atlanta says, OMG Luke, you forgot the other part of the Kelly Osbourne Latino gaffe story.

01:59:59.000 Rosie Perez quit after being forced by show execs to apologize for reacting to the racist gaffe.

02:00:05.000 ABC forced Latina to apologize for being visibly offended by the guest.

02:00:10.000 Yikes! 1.00

02:00:11.000 I didn't remember a lot of it.

02:00:13.000 It was in 2015, but I think it's relevant.

02:00:16.000 I just kind of vaguely remembered it and that's why I looked it up.

02:00:21.000 But yeah, it gets deeper and crazier.

02:00:24.000 Hillary Wallace says calories in calories out absolutely works. It's the law of thermodynamics follow the science

02:00:30.000 That's a that's that's not completely follow. That's not completely right. I will say yeah, he's the science

02:00:35.000 I will say it's really hard to accurately measure calories out

02:00:39.000 It's easier to measure calories in but even that's wrong Yeah

02:00:41.000 Casey Neistat did a great video where he bought food around New York and then got a calorie tested and found that like

02:00:47.000 Subway actually Had less calories than they advertised and most foods had

02:00:50.000 more like many of them did it's really fascinating what I will say is I

02:00:55.000 In my personal opinion based on how I've eaten I think everybody's different

02:01:01.000 When I eat grains and sugars, I'm miserable.

02:01:03.000 Yeah.

02:01:04.000 I have no energy.

02:01:05.000 I feel just bad.

02:01:08.000 When I cut that stuff out and I stick to fats, meats, cheeses, and veggies, I feel like a million bucks.

02:01:15.000 So over the past several months, one thing I've really noticed is, in the mornings, Seven months ago.

02:01:21.000 I'd wake up, I'd have my coffee, I'd put sugary creamer in it with... I'd put a little bit of creamer and then some, you know, like, flavored creamer, because I'm like, I'm not too much sugar, I'm trying to be careful, but still, you know, some sugar in it.

02:01:32.000 And then I would drink that, and then as soon as I'd finish my morning segment, I'd have breakfast.

02:01:36.000 I'd have like a piece of bread and some eggs and I'm like I'm having a good breakfast here just like a little piece of

02:01:40.000 toast and some eggs and bacon and then within few within 40 minutes to an hour I'd start getting tired and drained and

02:01:46.000 I'd be like oh man and I need to get something to drink or do something and then I would get another you know like

02:01:51.000 another coffee or something.

02:01:53.000 When I stopped having all the sugars now for breakfast I don't eat anything.

02:01:58.000 I just have coffee with heavy cream and nothing else.

02:02:01.000 You're doing intermittent fasting too.

02:02:02.000 Well, I think the heavy cream negates that.

02:02:04.000 But I never get tired.

02:02:06.000 There's no point where I get sluggish or anything like that.

02:02:09.000 I'm sustained throughout the day.

02:02:10.000 So I do all of my morning segments without eating anything.

02:02:13.000 And then as soon as I finish, I'll have a meal.

02:02:15.000 So today, what did we do?

02:02:16.000 We did keto hot dogs.

02:02:18.000 We did Portillo's Famous Hot Dogs and we made buns with almond flour and egg.

02:02:22.000 Yeah.

02:02:22.000 Amazing.

02:02:23.000 Nice.

02:02:23.000 Grilled onions.

02:02:25.000 And, uh, I feel great.

02:02:26.000 I don't get tired.

02:02:27.000 I don't get sluggish.

02:02:29.000 And then, over the past few months, there have been cheat days where, like, it's the weekend, we're all going out to eat, everyone's getting dessert, and I'm like, one time I can have, you know, a small piece of this cheesecake.

02:02:40.000 It's no big deal.

02:02:41.000 And the next day, I'm just like, oh!

02:02:44.000 Wait, can you drink on keto?

02:02:45.000 Can you have beer?

02:02:46.000 Can you have like- Nope.

02:02:47.000 Liquors.

02:02:48.000 Very low in carbs.

02:02:49.000 I think you can have liquors, but you can't have beer.

02:02:51.000 Yeah, no beer.

02:02:51.000 I don't drink anyway, though.

02:02:52.000 Really?

02:02:53.000 Yeah.

02:02:54.000 Yeah, I don't, you know.

02:02:55.000 Has that always been true?

02:02:57.000 Not when I was like 18 to 22, I drank too much, but I don't really drink.

02:03:02.000 I just don't get anything from it.

02:03:03.000 Over the holidays, I had maybe like, maybe that month between November and December, ten drinks, you know?

02:03:11.000 Wow.

02:03:11.000 Because I'm like, people are drinking, they're having wine, and we had Trump champagne, it was hilarious, and so I partake.

02:03:16.000 Maybe 10's a little, actually, a little much.

02:03:19.000 No, no, I think that's right, because I had a couple beers, too.

02:03:21.000 Yeah.

02:03:21.000 All right, well, let's read a couple more, because I don't want to go too long, and we kind of did go too long, so I apologize for that.

02:03:27.000 All right.

02:03:29.000 What do we got here?

02:03:30.000 We got a whole bunch of super chats.

02:03:33.000 All right.

02:03:34.000 JDMC says, Rodney King happened just before Bush Sr.

02:03:37.000 lost election for second term.

02:03:40.000 Democrat old bag of tricks.

02:03:42.000 I don't know about that.

02:03:43.000 That's a conspiracy theory I've never heard.

02:03:45.000 Clinton staged or the Democrats wanted the LA riots to happen or something?

02:03:50.000 Old school, I don't know.

02:03:52.000 No, the riots would actually help the Republican, you know?

02:03:55.000 No idea.

02:03:56.000 So what's the backfire?

02:03:57.000 I don't know.

02:03:58.000 A lot of people are saying, can't wait to see Anomaly on the show.

02:04:02.000 Yeah, that'll be cool.

02:04:04.000 Working on that.

02:04:05.000 All right, let's see.

02:04:07.000 A lot of people are commenting on the George Floyd thing, which I know if I bring up, we'll just rehash again.

02:04:11.000 And I don't want to.

02:04:13.000 Do it for the bonus section.

02:04:15.000 Yeah, we can.

02:04:16.000 Well, I mean, it's just me.

02:04:18.000 JDMC says Ian has been more awesome since he came back from vacation.

02:04:21.000 Love you, bro.

02:04:22.000 It's almost like something happened to Ian.

02:04:24.000 Yeah, like I fell asleep on the plane when I woke up.

02:04:27.000 Something new.

02:04:29.000 He woke up in a parallel universe or whatever.

02:04:32.000 Yeah, went through a time space.

02:04:34.000 I actually did microdose psilocybin over the break and it was incredible.

02:04:38.000 I spent about 10 days in Ohio with my family and then I went out to Washington State out to the mountains and was able to just have a just a meditative, amazing, amazing communication experience with a great friend of mine out there.

02:04:53.000 I highly recommend getting some time away from a computer screen if you can.

02:04:56.000 I think I tweeted a photo of you in nature.

02:04:59.000 I don't know if this is you exactly.

02:05:02.000 That's me.

02:05:02.000 I don't think that's me.

02:05:03.000 It's a beautiful picture.

02:05:04.000 I tweeted it.

02:05:04.000 Alright, we'll do one more real quick.

02:05:07.000 Mr. Trench Trucker says, as a trucker desperately trying to deliver food, I will not comply.

02:05:13.000 Try to stop my truck, I dare you.

02:05:15.000 Well, be responsible with your truck.

02:05:18.000 Be a good law-abiding truck driver, but stand up for what you believe in.

02:05:21.000 And I think, you know, Nonviolence of disobedience is the way we can push for change while not hurting other people, right?

02:05:28.000 Alright, let's see.

02:05:29.000 Here's one more.

02:05:30.000 Mavis says, Tim, you're right about unhealthy image of body weight.

02:05:32.000 I got down to a healthy weight with keto and my coworkers thought I was underweight when I wasn't.

02:05:37.000 Yep.

02:05:38.000 Oh yeah.

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02:06:04.000 Badia, do you wanna shout anything out?

02:06:05.000 Do you have social media?

02:06:07.000 Oh boy, I am at Bungersargon on Twitter and you can find, I work at Newsweek, I try to platform working class voices and voices from across the political spectrum, so you can find those op-eds at Newsweek.com and you can find my book at Amazon or Encounter.com, Bad News, How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy.

02:06:26.000 Thanks so much, Tim.

02:06:27.000 And I'll just say one real quick thing, too.

02:06:29.000 Newsweek, for like a mainstream corporate press, you'd publish a lot of dissenting opinions.

02:06:35.000 You've got populist right-wing people, conservatives, left.

02:06:38.000 I think it's fantastic.

02:06:39.000 I saw a Newsweek article where they said that COVID lives in fat cells.

02:06:42.000 It was a story out of China.

02:06:44.000 They had to recall all this ice cream because they had tested animal fat for COVID.

02:06:48.000 And it's like Newsweek printed it and then just like, where, where did that information go if it's living in animal fat?

02:06:54.000 But thank you so much for coming on.

02:06:56.000 It was great being able to have a civil discussion.

02:06:59.000 I know we don't see things eye to eye, but I think we can identify the problems.

02:07:02.000 I think we definitely agree on that.

02:07:04.000 And it was great being able to understand your perspective, where you're coming from, and being able to have a civil discussion.

02:07:09.000 So thank you so much for having that.

02:07:11.000 I have my own kind of discussions and debates and conversations on WeAreChange.org.

02:07:16.000 I just had a very important video on the way that I think things are run in context to, of course, Epstein, a USA Today article.

02:07:23.000 I did a video about that exclusively on LukeUncensored.com.

02:07:28.000 Hope to see some of you guys there.

02:07:29.000 Thanks so much for having me.

02:07:31.000 And thank you guys for participating in the chat as well.

02:07:34.000 Oh, yeah, that's great.

02:07:35.000 You can follow me at IanCrosland.net.

02:07:36.000 Gotcha.

02:07:36.000 Good to see you.

02:07:37.000 Have a nice night, guys.

02:07:39.000 See you later.

02:07:40.000 I'm gonna take a moment because this is very important to me, I don't usually ask for much time, but I had a gift sent to me that is one of the most beautiful things I think I've ever seen.

02:07:48.000 She made this portrait of my cat.

02:07:51.000 Some of you guys are familiar with Dip and Dot, and it is amazing.

02:07:56.000 It's opalescent, it is made with glass, and it has little whiskers on it that move when you touch them, little hairs.

02:08:03.000 Her name is Lori K far and she's at LKF designs on Instagram if you guys like to follow her She does customized pet portraits just like dip Absolutely amazing. 0.88

02:08:12.000 I'm so touched.

02:08:13.000 It's such a generous gift.

02:08:14.000 She also did one of bucko She'd one of Luke's dog and some of the chickens as well.

02:08:19.000 So I am just amazed by the gravity of this gift She also made me these earrings and I'm gonna definitely work with her in the future and you guys may follow me on Twitter at sour patch lids Thank you, Lori.

02:08:30.000 They got a mosaic of Atlas.

02:08:31.000 It looks incredible.

02:08:31.000 There's a mosaic for you, too, downstairs.

02:08:38.000 And you can see the mosaic and the unraveling on the vlog, which was just released today, that I was in.

02:08:44.000 So cool.

02:08:44.000 All right, everybody.

02:08:45.000 We will see you at TimCast.com.

02:08:47.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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