Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - COUP IN RUSSIA, Media Reports Possible CIVIL WAR Starting In Russia w-Benny Johnson

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00:00:24.000 I mostly was not sick this past week.

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00:00:52.000 In my absence, I have returned.

00:00:54.000 We are here to talk about news, and as we're preparing for the show, huge news is breaking.

00:00:58.000 We don't know if that's any... We don't know what's true and what's not.

00:01:01.000 There's a lot of propaganda.

00:01:02.000 You gotta be careful.

00:01:03.000 But the reports that are coming out is that there is a potential military coup or civil war starting in Russia.

00:01:09.000 I'm going to stand back and be like, I am skeptical of this, but apparently the private military contract of the Wagner Group apparently is saying that they're going to stop the corruption in Russia, and then Russia is deploying troops to try and gain control of things.

00:01:23.000 I don't know how much of this is true.

00:01:23.000 We're going to talk about all of that.

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00:01:27.000 I think we've got to talk about this cage match with Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, because, you know, I've been out all week.

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00:04:12.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the wonderful Benny Johnson.

00:04:17.000 What up?

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00:04:54.000 Hi.

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00:05:06.000 What is going on, guys?

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00:05:10.000 You should go check out today's episode, but let's talk politics.

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00:05:14.000 Before we get started, I just want to thank you, Tim, for taking the week off.

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00:05:43.000 What's happening, Serge?

00:05:44.000 Uh, yeah, it was good, but I'm glad you're back, Tim.

00:05:46.000 It's, uh, gonna be easier to keep on the rails than with, uh, Seamus running everything, so... I heard you spilled water during the show.

00:05:51.000 Yeah, you spilled it right on your keyboard.

00:05:52.000 During what?

00:05:53.000 During the show.

00:05:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:54.000 During the show.

00:05:54.000 And everybody saw it happen.

00:05:56.000 Yes, it was live on air.

00:05:57.000 So, anyways, glad you're back, man.

00:05:59.000 Let's go.

00:06:00.000 Alright, so here's the first story from the Daily Mail.

00:06:03.000 Coup Fears As Wagner Army Marches On Moscow To Target Evil Military Chiefs, Kremlin Accuses Leader Of Mercenaries Of Inciting Civil War, Puts Its Troops On Capitol Streets And Vows To Smash Armed Mutiny As State TV Runs Emergency Bulletin.

00:06:21.000 This is crazy. They say there are fears of a coup in Russia as military vehicles were seen in the

00:06:26.000 streets after the chief of the Vag... Is it Wagner group or is it Wagner group?

00:06:29.000 **Vagner sounds cooler** **Vagner?**

00:06:31.000 I think that's actually the appropriate pronunciation. They called for an armed

00:06:34.000 rebellion and direct challenge to the Kremlin. Yevgeny Prigozhin tonight, Prigozhin, said his

00:06:40.000 force had crossed into Russia as he called for the ousting of Russia's defense minister and vowed to

00:06:44.000 punish military leaders whom he accused of killing 2,000 of his fighters.

00:06:48.000 The Wagner chief said, We had crossed state borders.

00:06:50.000 We'll destroy anything that gets in the way.

00:06:52.000 We go all the way.

00:06:54.000 We got this photo here.

00:06:57.000 Armored vehicles were allegedly on the streets of Moscow.

00:06:59.000 So the first thing I gotta say is, what is it saying?

00:07:04.000 Believe half of what you see and none of what you read or hear or whatever?

00:07:07.000 I don't know, something like that.

00:07:08.000 Take it all with a grain of salt.

00:07:10.000 I don't know for sure, but I will say this.

00:07:12.000 When I first heard this story, I was like, what did NATO offer him?

00:07:15.000 Double?

00:07:16.000 Like, this is how it goes with PMCs.

00:07:18.000 He's fighting in Ukraine.

00:07:19.000 They're getting demolished.

00:07:21.000 And then he's like, it's not worth the money.

00:07:23.000 He's a private military contractor.

00:07:25.000 What does he care?

00:07:25.000 And then NATO says, what are they paying you, dude?

00:07:27.000 And he was like, you know, 50 million.

00:07:30.000 He's like, okay, we'll give you 200.

00:07:31.000 And he was like, okay, sure.

00:07:33.000 That's all it takes, right?

00:07:35.000 Money printing machine goes brr.

00:07:37.000 This is the danger of hiring mercenaries to fight a war.

00:07:39.000 I don't know if this is exactly what happened with the Romans, but they were bringing in mercenaries from all over the world to come and fight for the Romans, because the Roman citizens got to a point where they didn't want to fight anymore.

00:07:50.000 And then that's the beginning of the end, because those people do not have any allegiance to your country.

00:07:54.000 This is the American Revolution.

00:07:55.000 The British brought in German mercenaries.

00:07:57.000 The Hessians.

00:08:00.000 And those are the people who got routed when George Washington, I almost said Joe Biden, my god.

00:08:08.000 When George Washington crossed the Delaware, it was the Hessians who got routed.

00:08:12.000 Christmas Eve?

00:08:13.000 Yeah, the famous painting, right?

00:08:14.000 The most famous painting of the Revolutionary War.

00:08:16.000 That's who he was going to fight.

00:08:18.000 The Germans, actually.

00:08:19.000 Yeah, I mean there is obviously value to having a more robust fighting force, including mercenaries, but if you're relying on mercenaries, you're in a very precarious position.

00:08:29.000 This is what I never understood, you see a movie where it's like someone hires a hitman, I'm like, and they always say like, what are they paying you?

00:08:35.000 I'll pay you double! 0.94

00:08:36.000 It's just like, why would not the Atheism be like, well, okay. 0.97

00:08:40.000 Sure.

00:08:41.000 Are they going to turn me in if I don't do this?

00:08:43.000 I don't think they're going to do that.

00:08:44.000 You have a reputation to protect as a hitman, though.

00:08:46.000 But this is something that we see.

00:08:48.000 There's a great book called The Modern Mercenary, and there's a phenomenon that they call neo-medievalism, because one of the problems during the Middle Ages was that people had an allegiance to their lord, their god, and their king.

00:08:59.000 So whenever there was like a, you know, a conflict broke out that was between any of them, You had to pick your own, um, you had to pick which master you would serve.

00:09:08.000 So, you know, mercenaries have different interests, different loyalties, and all that.

00:09:12.000 So, obviously, we might be seeing, if this is true, that neo-medieval order, like, establishing itself once again in our modern society.

00:09:21.000 So they're, you know.

00:09:23.000 They obviously aren't loyal to Russia.

00:09:25.000 No.

00:09:26.000 He says, quote, there are 25,000 of us and we are going to figure out why chaos is happening in the country, promising to tackle any checkpoints.

00:09:33.000 He said, I asked that no one offer resistance.

00:09:36.000 Is 25,000 really enough to do anything?

00:09:40.000 I mean, if they're centralized just in Moscow, yes.

00:09:45.000 Like, they could take some building or something, but I just want to point out that we're no longer in the era of being able to take over a country by occupying a building.

00:09:53.000 And it's kind of crazy to think that was the case at some point.

00:09:56.000 Like, a bunch of dudes would run into a building and they were like, we're in charge now, and everyone would be like, well crap, they're in charge now.

00:10:01.000 Yeah, worked in, uh, Pinochet did that, I think, with, uh, what was Allende, Salvador Allende, in Chile.

00:10:08.000 There was, and that was in the 70s, I think?

00:10:10.000 They just went in, but once you get the leader, that's what he wants, is he wants the defense minister.

00:10:13.000 If this is real.

00:10:14.000 He doesn't care about the building, but if you can get the people, if you get Putin, then you get Putin at gunpoint to tell the people, I concede, I step down, you know, you get the leader to do what you want them to do, I think.

00:10:25.000 Power is influence, right?

00:10:27.000 So symbols of power do matter.

00:10:29.000 So occupying Moscow, even though strategically you're like, you're right, like they could move to another city.

00:10:33.000 You know, the Russian government has access to nuclear warheads.

00:10:37.000 You would think this doesn't matter, but symbolically occupying Moscow is a huge deal.

00:10:42.000 And if people believe that this mercenary group is more powerful than the defense minister, guess what?

00:10:47.000 It's more powerful than the defense minister.

00:10:49.000 Has anybody ever occupied Moscow?

00:10:52.000 I don't think so.

00:10:52.000 Since the beginning, since the Kiev, the old Kievan princes.

00:10:57.000 Yeah, Kiev wasn't the original Kiev, the only thing.

00:10:58.000 I mean, everyone, right?

00:10:59.000 Every empire died trying, but like... Well, that was the Lember Group. 1.00

00:11:02.000 Right?

00:11:03.000 Like, like... This is it!

00:11:05.000 The U.S.

00:11:06.000 finally figured something out.

00:11:07.000 They were like, hold on, hold on.

00:11:08.000 We can't invade.

00:11:09.000 Let's pay someone else to do it.

00:11:11.000 There you go.

00:11:12.000 The French occupied Moscow.

00:11:13.000 We didn't just figure that out.

00:11:14.000 I think America has been doing that for a long time.

00:11:15.000 Moscow has been occupied six times in its history by foreign armies.

00:11:18.000 Wow.

00:11:19.000 The Polish in 1610.

00:11:20.000 Duh.

00:11:23.000 Do you want me to tell all about it?

00:11:24.000 When was France?

00:11:25.000 France?

00:11:26.000 When was France?

00:11:27.000 French occupation, 1812.

00:11:29.000 Napoleon made it to Moscow.

00:11:30.000 I didn't know, I didn't realize that.

00:11:32.000 Wow.

00:11:32.000 I thought it was crazy.

00:11:33.000 Napoleon.

00:11:34.000 The summit of the French.

00:11:35.000 But then what did he try?

00:11:36.000 He tried going further?

00:11:37.000 He lost his army on the way.

00:11:38.000 They only occupied it for 36 days.

00:11:40.000 The city was devastated by fire.

00:11:42.000 This is all from Wikipedia.

00:11:44.000 And I'm just kind of... Oh yeah, it wasn't like they destroyed everything.

00:11:47.000 The Russians, Napoleon wouldn't have any supplies and then he got screwed over in the winter and was like, we're dying.

00:11:52.000 Scorched Earth policy.

00:11:53.000 As you retreat, you burn everything so that the enemy doesn't have anything.

00:11:57.000 Scorched Earth, I thought, was when you destroy everything so that they cannot raise a defense.

00:12:02.000 Like, you destroy farmland and kill civilians.

00:12:04.000 You could be right.

00:12:05.000 Sherman's march to the sea, I think, was the first modern example of scorched earth.

00:12:10.000 Where as he marched south he just started destroying farms and killing civilians and just wiping them all out.

00:12:15.000 You could be right.

00:12:16.000 The Romans did it to Carthage when they took the city. 0.99

00:12:18.000 There is a tactic where as you're being occupied you destroy everything.

00:12:22.000 Didn't they do that with Richmond?

00:12:23.000 The south?

00:12:24.000 They sacked Richmond to prevent the Union from being able to utilize it or something like that?

00:12:28.000 I don't know.

00:12:28.000 That is common.

00:12:29.000 It's very common.

00:12:30.000 When you're desperate to burn your defenses as you retreat so that the enemy's not able to occupy them.

00:12:35.000 I mean, they're doing that in Ukraine.

00:12:37.000 Who do you think blew up that giant dam, the Nova Dam?

00:12:39.000 Wasn't the Russians! 1.00

00:12:41.000 Well, this is the funny thing.

00:12:42.000 Nord Stream, for instance.

00:12:43.000 They're like, Russia blew up its own pipeline, and you're like...

00:12:47.000 Nah.

00:12:51.000 No, Ukraine blew up the dam.

00:12:54.000 This is not definitive though, this is like you've got warring propaganda.

00:12:58.000 So the New York Times did a report on how Ukraine has sort of poison pills all throughout the country to blow up their own infrastructure and the Washington Post said that they did a test strike on the dam.

00:13:08.000 Earlier in the year.

00:13:10.000 They did an operation.

00:13:11.000 So you can just connect the dots there.

00:13:13.000 Yeah, and I think that the blowing of the dam flooded or has potential to flood Crimea, the Crimean peninsula.

00:13:17.000 That's right.

00:13:17.000 It really hurts the Russians to blow up the dam.

00:13:20.000 And it's always a very bad thing.

00:13:21.000 Who benefits from this?

00:13:22.000 So the pipeline that was destroyed is the one that allows them to transport oil and gas without going through Ukraine.

00:13:28.000 So obviously that gives them the ability to cut off the Ukrainians from energy. 0.99

00:13:32.000 So that would be a prime target for the Ukrainians to destroy or their allies being the United States or whoever. 0.97

00:13:39.000 Like, it wouldn't make sense for Russia to cut off their own strategy.

00:13:42.000 This is a, it's a good comment.

00:13:44.000 And they're, sorry, they're winning too, aren't they?

00:13:47.000 It's all propaganda, it's tough to tell.

00:13:49.000 But here's what I noticed.

00:13:50.000 They've been saying, Western forces, Western media has been saying Russia's been losing the whole time.

00:13:55.000 And then I keep looking at these maps of territory and Russia's expanding its control over the Donbass.

00:13:58.000 And I'm like, I'm confused.

00:14:00.000 Like now they're saying that this region where the dam is is controlled by Russia.

00:14:03.000 And I'm like, wow, Russia controls how much?

00:14:06.000 I thought they were losing.

00:14:07.000 They're getting pushed back.

00:14:08.000 I thought there was this big offensive that pushed back into Russia.

00:14:10.000 But Russia controls all this land?

00:14:12.000 I was like, it doesn't sound like they're losing.

00:14:14.000 I mean, I'm not here to say they're winning or anything, but it doesn't sound like they're losing.

00:14:17.000 I don't know though.

00:14:17.000 I don't know.

00:14:18.000 There's a lot of propaganda.

00:14:19.000 If this truly is that the Russians accidentally shelled 2,000 of their own mercenaries, and now the mercenaries turn on them, that will be remembered for... 0.54

00:14:27.000 Tens of thousands of years, if we have history for that, if we can maintain it, it'll be remembered as one of the largest military blunders ever in the history of humankind.

00:14:35.000 I just don't believe it.

00:14:36.000 Yeah, it's a convenient piece of propaganda.

00:14:39.000 Exactly.

00:14:40.000 And it's much simpler that a multi-billionaire went to the Wagner Group and said,

00:14:46.000 we will give you $100 billion to your company.

00:14:49.000 You will be the preeminent in the Eastern Hemisphere military contractor for all of

00:14:55.000 our work forever.

00:14:56.000 You will want for nothing side with us.

00:15:00.000 It's a simple question.

00:15:01.000 You go to the guy and you say, do you think Russia's going to win?

00:15:02.000 And he's going to be like, is it really worth how much money he's paying you?

00:15:06.000 Well, this is what we do.

00:15:07.000 It's like, we'll pay you ten times as much and you'll win.

00:15:09.000 And he goes, deal.

00:15:12.000 That simple.

00:15:13.000 We did just have a, what, 6.2 billion dollar accounting error.

00:15:17.000 That's where it went.

00:15:19.000 No joke.

00:15:20.000 Maybe.

00:15:21.000 Whoops.

00:15:22.000 And now the guy's got six billion dollars.

00:15:24.000 I hate it when they're like this.

00:15:26.000 Dude, he makes a video claiming whatever he wants, how much money they have to give him to make it happen.

00:15:30.000 Probably not a lot.

00:15:31.000 He's a private military contractor.

00:15:32.000 He runs a business.

00:15:33.000 If he works with Russia and Russia ends up succeeding or pushing in this fight,

00:15:37.000 his only customer is going to be Russia.

00:15:41.000 He's looking right now, they're probably telling him, listen,

00:15:43.000 once this whole thing dies down, you've got potential conflict in country A,

00:15:47.000 country B, country C, country D.

00:15:49.000 You've got China, Taiwan.

00:15:50.000 You've got, you know, the entire continent of Africa and South America.

00:15:54.000 We can hire you for all of these things, but if you operate with Russia, that's the only customer you will ever have. 0.98

00:16:01.000 And what are you gonna buy?

00:16:03.000 They may have even gone to him and said, after we flatten Russia, where will you live?

00:16:08.000 With all of the great money they paid you, will you buy a building in Siberia, perhaps?

00:16:13.000 Or how about this?

00:16:14.000 We give you a billion dollars, you turn on Russia, and you can buy property anywhere in the world. 0.51

00:16:21.000 Heck, we'll give you an island. 0.99

00:16:23.000 Not a hard deal.

00:16:24.000 That's the danger of using mercenaries.

00:16:26.000 There's an island called Little St.

00:16:27.000 James that is recently unoccupied and it has a special temple on it that's brand- nearly brand new, lightly used, special blue and white temple.

00:16:36.000 Those are your colors, right, Wagner?

00:16:38.000 Blue and white?

00:16:38.000 You'll love this place.

00:16:40.000 It's got a real Eastern European flair to it.

00:16:43.000 Yeah, this is the pro- I mean, yeah, I mean, I think you might- Obviously, I think you might be right here.

00:16:48.000 I'm furiously searching for the map, the wartime map, because actually Russia's gained an enormous amount of territory of Ukraine's, and this Ukrainian offensive that they've been talking about has done nothing.

00:16:58.000 It's actually been an absolute total failure.

00:17:01.000 You don't hear about it because we're propagandized as much as anyone else in the world, but the Ukrainian Spring Offensive has been very, very bad.

00:17:10.000 And you can see where all the money's gone.

00:17:12.000 It's now in flaming tanks and personnel carriers all throughout the Eastern Front of Ukraine.

00:17:18.000 And the most effective group, if you go through on the YouTube and some of the YouTube channels, and you're able to do the Google Translate thing, and you're able to listen to these Ukrainian generals talk, the people they're actually scared about is the Wagner group.

00:17:30.000 That's the people they talk about.

00:17:32.000 They say the Russian army is ineffective.

00:17:34.000 It's this Wagner group.

00:17:36.000 These guys are actual operators.

00:17:38.000 They are sophisticated, they're smart, and they also have wartime experience.

00:17:43.000 So they're not rattled at all.

00:17:44.000 Because Russia's putting a lot of young guys on the front lines. 0.52

00:17:47.000 And so if you go through and you watch some of these YouTube, the Kiev post is the one that I watch, right?

00:17:52.000 Because they have these insights and these interviews with these Ukrainian generals and they talk about how worried they are about the Wagner Group and how skilled of an operation that is. 0.98

00:18:02.000 And so this is clearly something that if you were to take them off the board, off the chessboard, well, hot damn. 0.89

00:18:09.000 I mean, this would be a big thing, obviously, for Ukraine. 0.96

00:18:11.000 I always thought about mercenaries and what a hard life that is because the people that hire you to fight want you to die in the battle that they win.

00:18:20.000 They want you to win the battle but die so they don't have to pay you.

00:18:23.000 So it's like, they don't have- Russia doesn't care about these people.

00:18:27.000 Like, the Russians, they want to win, and they would rather not pay them, to be honest. 0.93

00:18:31.000 Obviously, they like loyalty over non-loyalty, but mercenaries know that. 0.95

00:18:35.000 And if you kill their men, man, they are not gonna wait.

00:18:39.000 We don't do very well with taking care of the people who fight our wars either, though. 0.64

00:18:43.000 So it's not like that's... I mean, I see what you're saying, but in general, I don't really think that, in most cases, many of the people that come back from war are really taken care of in any way, shape, or form.

00:18:55.000 Veterans make up 11% of all the homeless population in America.

00:18:58.000 Veterans make up 11%.

00:19:00.000 Large portions of suicides.

00:19:01.000 Our veterans, yeah.

00:19:03.000 We do use mercenaries in part because the soldier death number is what always gets reported because the American people care about soldiers dying overseas.

00:19:11.000 And when it's personnel, even though they're former soldiers that served our country that went into these mercenary groups, it's not as scary of a number.

00:19:19.000 So there is some more concern in the United States for at least the death toll, especially overseas.

00:19:25.000 And we started upping our use of private military after we started withdrawing troops at a certain point, right?

00:19:30.000 Back in 2013 or something like that?

00:19:33.000 In Afghanistan?

00:19:33.000 Yeah.

00:19:35.000 So just to clarify, because people are pointing out scorched earth, two superchats saying that it's when a defending army destroys everything, another person responded, it's actually both.

00:19:46.000 But most famously associated with offending armies destroying anything of use to the place they're occupying, but there are several circumstances in which people in their own countries destroyed everything as they were fleeing.

00:19:58.000 But scorched earth The specific example is when you pull up Sherman's March to the Seas, like the most notable modern example.

00:20:06.000 And that was when he was like, destroy the farms, destroy the railroads, anything they can use.

00:20:11.000 The purpose was to destroy their will to fight.

00:20:14.000 So just to completely demoralize.

00:20:15.000 I've thought about that.

00:20:16.000 The Third Reich did this in Russia, like when they were on the edge of Moscow as far as the Third Reich got in Russia, and they were As close as any modern army's been to conquering Moscow, and man, they burned everything on their way back. 0.88

00:20:30.000 But we gotta talk about a more important fight that may be on our hands, ladies and gentlemen, and it's not Ukraine and Russia, it is Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.

00:20:39.000 Vox.com reporting, why in the world are Elon and Zuck planning to punch each other?

00:20:44.000 Their supposed cage match has petty online roots.

00:20:47.000 I'm all for it since the boys are fighting.

00:20:49.000 Okay.

00:20:50.000 I love this.

00:20:51.000 They are 51 and 39 years old, respectively.

00:20:54.000 And we'd like to inform you that they're gearing up for a cage fight in an unconfirmed location, but possibly Las Vegas, on a to-be-decided date.

00:21:00.000 Elon Musk signaled his interest in the match on Twitter a few days ago.

00:21:04.000 Zuckerberg naturally confirmed that he was in through Instagram.

00:21:09.000 So what's the latest on this?

00:21:11.000 This is going to happen or what?

00:21:12.000 The latest is Dana White came out and acknowledged this is real.

00:21:15.000 They said they're very serious about it.

00:21:17.000 They want to do it.

00:21:18.000 This is the coolest thing Zuckerberg has ever done.

00:21:20.000 They're saying the weight classes, like the different weight classes will make it difficult for them.

00:21:24.000 I think this is why they should go to Mars.

00:21:26.000 They should have this fight on Mars.

00:21:27.000 No gravity.

00:21:28.000 No weight class.

00:21:29.000 But the other thing is like Elon's mom was saying she doesn't want him to do it.

00:21:34.000 I put a poll up on our chat today.

00:21:36.000 I asked people, I said, you know, who do you think would win?

00:21:38.000 And I think they're wrong.

00:21:39.000 I think people are saying Musk is going to win.

00:21:41.000 And I think if you've seen the videos of Zuckerberg doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu. He looks like a robot when he's doing

00:21:49.000 it. His face is completely blank. I think I think he ends up winning this one.

00:21:53.000 So, I just want to say this. First, the first question is will

00:21:58.000 this actually happen? And I lean towards it won't.

00:22:00.000 I hope it does. Can you imagine the the insurance policy you'd have to have to run this fight?

00:22:05.000 There's a 37 second video of Dana White.

00:22:09.000 This is a good point why it won't happen.

00:22:11.000 Because every investor in Facebook and every investor in Tesla will file an injunction immediately and be like, If one of you gets knocked out, we're going to lose billions of dollars.

00:22:25.000 You know, that's a good point, because Dana White, the owner of the UFC, said that it would raise $100 million in pay-per-view and it would be the biggest, most popular fight of all time.

00:22:35.000 But you're right.

00:22:35.000 A head trauma to Elon Musk could end Tesla.

00:22:38.000 And then they're just like, you make one bad decision and your board votes you out.

00:22:41.000 They're like, we saw you get hit in the head by Zuckerberg.

00:22:43.000 We can't trust you to make decisions anymore.

00:22:45.000 Elon Musk is 51.

00:22:47.000 And Zuckerberg's a trained- I mean, I don't know how trained, but a trained jiu-jitsu fighter.

00:22:51.000 Alright, so let's talk about this, though.

00:22:53.000 Zuckerberg does jiu-jitsu.

00:22:55.000 He does.

00:22:56.000 There's that video that went viral where he claimed- the ref claimed that he tapped out, but he didn't, and Zucker got all mad about it.

00:23:03.000 Elon Musk is just a guy.

00:23:04.000 However, Elon Musk is also much, much, much larger than Zuckerberg.

00:23:08.000 Zuckerberg's actually a little dude.

00:23:09.000 What's he like, 5'8 or something?

00:23:11.000 And what's Musk?

00:23:11.000 154.

00:23:11.000 5'7.

00:23:15.000 6'1", 6'2", and 195, which I think is kind of conservative for his weight.

00:23:20.000 He looks pretty big.

00:23:21.000 There's no way he's 195.

00:23:22.000 That's what he's listed as, minimum.

00:23:24.000 What?

00:23:24.000 Nah, I think he's more than that.

00:23:27.000 I'm saying it's a minimum.

00:23:28.000 For his height.

00:23:29.000 Oh, his height is 6'1", 6'2".

00:23:31.000 Right, for that height alone, with his build, he's looking at 210, 220?

00:23:33.000 Probably.

00:23:35.000 So my executive producer just went to Twitter and met with Elon.

00:23:38.000 ALX.

00:23:39.000 He's been on the show.

00:23:40.000 Everyone knows ALX.

00:23:40.000 Great guy.

00:23:41.000 Awesome.

00:23:41.000 Great dude.

00:23:42.000 Follow him on Twitter.

00:23:44.000 Blew past 500,000.

00:23:45.000 And also, by the way, Benny Brigade, thank you for 1 million subs this week.

00:23:50.000 We just crossed that milestone on Wednesday.

00:23:53.000 So God bless you.

00:23:54.000 Thank you.

00:23:54.000 ALX has been my executive producer for five years.

00:23:57.000 Met with Elon Musk.

00:23:58.000 And he's like, yo.

00:24:00.000 I'm 5'2", ALX is- I'm sorry, 6'2". 0.97

00:24:02.000 ALX is every bit of a tall dude, alright?

00:24:04.000 And Elon Musk was taller than him.

00:24:06.000 Wow.

00:24:06.000 Elon Musk was a big guy.

00:24:07.000 He's taller than 6'2".

00:24:08.000 ALX tweeted, he's like- Elon Musk was way bigger than I thought he'd be in person.

00:24:12.000 Have you seen the photos of him on the boat with Bezos?

00:24:15.000 He's a big dude!

00:24:18.000 Also, the other thing for Musk is like, I just don't know if like, can they find the time to do something like this?

00:24:27.000 Is there really time to get something like this done when you're running five companies?

00:24:31.000 I think so because they're both robots, you know, and they know that time is relative.

00:24:36.000 So when you create a piece of art that goes on the internet that is seen a hundred million times, it creates, like when you think of time, you're creating a hundred billion minutes.

00:24:45.000 As opposed to spending maybe 7,000 minutes to get it done, you've actually made more time.

00:24:50.000 More importantly than if they can find the time to do this, is Elon going to make the time to train?

00:24:56.000 Because Zuckerberg has a head start, and he's younger than him, and, you know, he is fighting right now, and he's training with the best.

00:25:02.000 He's a billionaire, like, he can afford anybody.

00:25:04.000 So can Elon, but Elon's older.

00:25:06.000 Andrew Tate says, I'll train you.

00:25:08.000 Jorge Masvidal says, I'll train you, Elon Musk.

00:25:11.000 There's been a bunch of MMA fighters that are like, F, Zuck!

00:25:14.000 I will train you!

00:25:15.000 Sam Hyde?

00:25:17.000 Sam Hyde.

00:25:18.000 He's the guy.

00:25:18.000 No, I think Andrew Tate, if he goes to Romania and trains with Andrew Tate, that would be hardcore.

00:25:22.000 Because even that would be awesome to watch.

00:25:23.000 We live in such a weird world where it's like, you just kind of accept that this dude who might or might not be a human trafficker is going to train the guy who runs five of the biggest companies in the world to fight another dude who's worth more than some small country's GDP.

00:25:36.000 And you're just like, whatever.

00:25:38.000 Like, back in the day, this would have happened on Celebrity Deathmatch.

00:25:43.000 You just accept that like is this dude who's maybe guilty of unspeakable crimes Really possibly going to train this dude who's now got people mad at him because he won't let them say sis on Twitter It's it's a weird world we live in Do you think it's a good idea for them to fight?

00:26:05.000 I mean, yeah, because I think I'm all for the hilarity of it all.

00:26:08.000 I think it's hilarious.

00:26:09.000 But like, I mean, if I was an investor in any of these companies,

00:26:12.000 I don't know if I want the guy, especially Musk, who's like the brainchild of those companies.

00:26:17.000 Facebook is kind of its own thing now, right?

00:26:19.000 I think Facebook does fine if Zuckerberg isn't around anymore.

00:26:24.000 Musk is very much a forward-facing persona that is the face of those companies.

00:26:29.000 You can't have that dude coming out here looking like Reagan in the second administration and looking like he doesn't know what he's talking about, right?

00:26:36.000 He has to be coherent.

00:26:37.000 He has to know what he's talking about and he has to look like he's on this game all the time.

00:26:41.000 Two things.

00:26:42.000 One, do you—well, first of all, Elon Musk smoked with Joe Rogan, and Tesla stock plunged immediately, so this would have an impact if he got knocked out.

00:26:50.000 Great time to buy!

00:26:51.000 Something to be worried about.

00:26:52.000 And number two, do you guys—are you guys a little bit worried that Bezos is getting into shape, Zuckerberg's doing MMA, and that they know something we don't know?

00:27:01.000 No, they know something most people don't know, and it's you gotta eat right, take care of yourself.

00:27:06.000 That's just it.

00:27:06.000 That's right.

00:27:07.000 Do you think they're preparing for something where they might have to engage in mortal physical combat?

00:27:12.000 Societal collapse?

00:27:13.000 No, no, no.

00:27:14.000 Bezos is in shape because he's got his new wife who's going to take his other half of his money.

00:27:18.000 I think if you take a look around, you'll notice a few things.

00:27:20.000 People are drinking a lot less.

00:27:22.000 I mean, we've noticed that anecdotally because we do this great booze selection and people come in and we hear this all the time.

00:27:28.000 Oh, I stopped drinking recently.

00:27:30.000 We also know that millennials drink a ridiculously lower amount of soda than past generations.

00:27:34.000 Yeah, it's the first time in American history that soda's not, like, the number one drink in America.

00:27:39.000 I mean, I hate it.

00:27:40.000 We have these liquid devs where the total sugar count is six grams in this whole can.

00:27:46.000 I've gone to kombucha.

00:27:48.000 It's not expensive.

00:27:49.000 You get a lot of it.

00:27:50.000 It's like a sweet tea, fermented sweet tea.

00:27:52.000 No sugar, it says.

00:27:53.000 Yeah, I think they sweeten it with an alcohol sugar.

00:27:55.000 But this is my point.

00:27:56.000 When it comes to all of these guys, We see them, they're very visible, but the reality is the trend in getting healthier is just across the board.

00:28:04.000 The wealthy do eat better than us.

00:28:05.000 COVID!

00:28:06.000 It was COVID that freaked me out.

00:28:07.000 I'm fully focused on physical health right now.

00:28:09.000 Tell that to Bill Gates though.

00:28:10.000 Ian has a filet mignon every day.

00:28:10.000 Bill Gates.

00:28:13.000 Every day, a nice wagyu beef.

00:28:17.000 Raw.

00:28:17.000 Raw?

00:28:18.000 Just kidding.

00:28:19.000 It's good to have your heroes and the people that you look up to in society be masculine men.

00:28:23.000 If you're a man, it's good to have testosterone flowing through your veins.

00:28:27.000 Mr. Beast tweeted recently that he's getting in shape, and he called himself obese, and that he's been training every single day, and eating right, and stopping drinking, and I think this is a wonderful example to set for young men, actually.

00:28:40.000 You shouldn't want to be a slob filled with microplastics and unable to defend yourself or support your family. 1.00

00:28:47.000 In my case, physically support my family because I need to pick my little kids up and down, you know, or walk up the stairs, right?

00:28:53.000 To literally be a father, you have to be a masculine man.

00:28:57.000 You have to have energy.

00:28:59.000 If not a cage match for the issue of The stock and potential lawsuits and injunctions, they need to do some kind of like manly sporting competition.

00:29:09.000 Arm wrestling.

00:29:11.000 Pee in contest.

00:29:12.000 Arm wrestling, baby.

00:29:13.000 They're not going to get hurt arm wrestling, at least not severely.

00:29:17.000 Don't let them do the slap game, though. 1.00

00:29:21.000 Maybe wear like helmets, right?

00:29:22.000 American gladiators.

00:29:25.000 AR visors.

00:29:25.000 They fight with the giant toothpicks, American gladiators.

00:29:28.000 Bring that back! 0.99

00:29:29.000 That feels very Musk to me, like there's meme potential in that.

00:29:33.000 That's a good one, that's a good one.

00:29:35.000 Maybe we do like five events.

00:29:37.000 It's like arm wrestling, it's the giant q-tip thing where they, you know, bop each other with them, and maybe a sock-em-bop-er on a bridge where it's like, you got the big airbags.

00:29:47.000 So I do want to say this, as somebody who was raised in Iowa, that don't count out Zuck because he's shorter or smaller.

00:29:53.000 We've been having this, like, size comparison.

00:29:54.000 Elon's big man!

00:29:56.000 Like, dude, these short guys, growing up in Iowa, the reason I say that is because it's a wrestling country.

00:30:00.000 Everyone's a wrestler.

00:30:01.000 And these little guys, these little guys who've wrestled featherweight, like 120, right?

00:30:07.000 120 or 110.

00:30:08.000 They're little dudes.

00:30:10.000 And they have those cauliflower ears.

00:30:12.000 They will kick your I don't know if I'm supposed to tell this story, so I'll just keep it very vague, but someone we know who was a fighter said that he was at a bar once, and some guy was mouthing off, and he was like, just leave me alone, dude.

00:30:31.000 And then his buddy was like, dude, dude, dude, stop, and pointed to his ears.

00:30:34.000 Oh yeah, he said that on the show.

00:30:35.000 I was watching that show.

00:30:36.000 Yeah, that was awesome.

00:30:37.000 Yeah, and it's just like, I'm pretty sure, like, you see that and you're like, it's not that they're a good fighter, it's that they are a fighter and you are not.

00:30:45.000 Don't, don't go in that route.

00:30:46.000 Also, when you're little, you always feel like you have something to prove.

00:30:49.000 Never piss off a short cop.

00:30:51.000 Ever in your entire life.

00:30:53.000 It's the worst thing in your entire life because they're quick to anger and they're always going to be trying to prove themselves.

00:30:58.000 Just don't do it.

00:30:59.000 So if this fight comes to term, I prophesy Zuckerberg goes for, there's going to be some weak, weak strikes.

00:31:06.000 Zuckerberg goes for the legs, wraps them up really fast, puts him in some pain that he wasn't expecting and Musk is out.

00:31:12.000 That's my...

00:31:12.000 Then the undercard can be all of the people that work for their companies, like their vice presidents fight and I love it, I love it.

00:31:19.000 You know what would be even better though?

00:31:21.000 If they're in the middle of their fight, all of a sudden there's like a sound or a horn trumpet and then they look up in the rafters and there's Jack Dorsey and then he like ropes down.

00:31:33.000 Yes!

00:31:33.000 Like Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania.

00:31:36.000 Let's go!

00:31:36.000 And then you start hearing this glitchy house music, and Elon Musk calls in a Tesla bot and comes and takes his place, taps in, and he's like an AI, AI versus Zuck, and then Zuck rips his human exoskeleton off his face, and he's like, lizard people!

00:31:55.000 They fight, right?

00:31:56.000 AI versus the lizard people.

00:31:57.000 They finally have the battle we've all been waiting for.

00:32:00.000 Somebody could just make this movie now.

00:32:01.000 We don't need this to actually happen.

00:32:03.000 And Joe Rogan's calling it, right?

00:32:04.000 Joe Rogan's there.

00:32:06.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:32:07.000 Can we just go back to reality for one second?

00:32:09.000 Joe Rogan will be calling the fight.

00:32:12.000 How insane.

00:32:13.000 So when we saw that story where it was Trump's in the audience with, what was that, Kid Rock?

00:32:18.000 And who else was there?

00:32:19.000 Mike Tyson.

00:32:20.000 Mike Tyson.

00:32:21.000 And I'm just like, What?

00:32:23.000 What's?

00:32:23.000 Dana White.

00:32:24.000 Dana White?

00:32:26.000 Donald Trump, Kid Rock, Mike Tyson, and Joe Rogan's in there, calling the phone.

00:32:33.000 I'm like, this is the weirdest.

00:32:35.000 We live in a simulation.

00:32:36.000 They just tell me, I'm sorry, that's just it.

00:32:38.000 Rogan, we gotta give some credit to Joe Rogan.

00:32:40.000 This guy, people love him, obviously, but he brought people together, humans together, across so many strata of reality.

00:32:47.000 It is so awesome to watch doctors hang out with fighters.

00:32:50.000 Sorry, Benny, were you about to say something?

00:32:52.000 I'm just, everyone's saying that Donald Trump needs to be the ref.

00:32:55.000 Oh, that'd be hot.

00:32:56.000 Get him a nice pin, white stripe, black and white stripe shirt.

00:33:00.000 I have so much love for Rogan, not only just because of what he's doing with the show, but the fact, the grand macro scheme of what he's, how he's been able to bring people together.

00:33:08.000 I think I'd rather have Trump do announcing with Rogan.

00:33:11.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:11.000 I think he would be better off in the announce booth.

00:33:14.000 Like as the color commentator?

00:33:15.000 Yeah.

00:33:15.000 That would be amazing.

00:33:16.000 That would be amazing.

00:33:17.000 It's tremendous.

00:33:18.000 Dirty speak! 1.00

00:33:20.000 Trump would be biased against Zuckerberg, right?

00:33:22.000 In the fight.

00:33:23.000 That's funnier!

00:33:24.000 It's funnier if he has clear favorites that he's picking.

00:33:28.000 He's gonna run all his grievances against both of them.

00:33:30.000 He's like, this guy begged me for support during this speech.

00:33:35.000 Now he's gonna submit.

00:33:37.000 So the real question we need to ask is like how do we make something like this actually happen?

00:33:40.000 Even if it was WWE style where it's all fake and silly and over-the-top would be the best thing ever.

00:33:46.000 That was my pitch. 0.84

00:33:47.000 Maybe they should just have WWE do it because you could actually write storylines for these people and it would be really really funny to watch the the writers come up with something absolutely ridiculous.

00:33:56.000 I'm here for it.

00:33:58.000 Bezos like Shows up and then it's like Battle Royale and they're all just in the ring.

00:34:02.000 Bezos comes in and helps Zuckerberg.

00:34:05.000 And then Dorsey comes in and helps Elon.

00:34:09.000 Because he's like, yeah, you're my Twitter brother in arms.

00:34:11.000 You bought it for me.

00:34:13.000 And then they become the Twitter tag team bros.

00:34:15.000 Like, let's do this.

00:34:18.000 It is a simulation, right?

00:34:19.000 Jack Dorsey's wearing Twitter 1.0 and Elon's wearing a Twitter 2.0 shirt.

00:34:23.000 Suddenly, like, the lights go out in the entire arena, and you hear, I don't know, some type of Latin music from the Amazon, and in comes an Amazon drone with an Amazon box, and in the box is Jeff Bezos.

00:34:36.000 He bursts forth.

00:34:37.000 He bursts out of it.

00:34:39.000 He comes in an Amazon truck, they back up an Amazon truck.

00:34:43.000 And the guy's got a dolly with a box that he carts into the cage and they're like, what's this?

00:34:48.000 Then he puts it down and then all of a sudden it just bursts open.

00:34:51.000 And there's precedent for this because Stone Cold Steve Austin- And he's like, I'm in my prime!

00:34:56.000 Stone Cold Steve Austin once drove a beer truck to the ring and jumped on Vince McMahon.

00:35:02.000 We can have Bezos drive an Amazon truck to the ring and just jump on top of both of them. 1.00

00:35:07.000 Perfect.

00:35:07.000 Let's do this.

00:35:08.000 I want to see, like, them bust, like, Elon pick up Zuck and, like, smash him through the ground, and as he falls down, lands on, like, the next scene, which is they're fighting on a starship.

00:35:16.000 You know, can we make that happen?

00:35:17.000 The Babylon Bee had a meme today that said, like, Zuckerberg and Elon saw their differences by playing GoldenEye 64, only slapping each other in two-player mode.

00:35:26.000 Yeah, but you gotta play on license-to-kill mode, where one hit kills if you're gonna do that.

00:35:29.000 That's awesome.

00:35:30.000 And then you're, like, going like this, back and forth, like, that kind of thing.

00:35:32.000 One of them takes Blofeld, because he's smaller, so they can't actually slap him.

00:35:36.000 Oh, Oddjob.

00:35:37.000 Oddjob, sorry.

00:35:38.000 What did you say?

00:35:39.000 Blofeld.

00:35:40.000 Blofeld.

00:35:40.000 Who's that?

00:35:41.000 That's another character.

00:35:42.000 Oh, really?

00:35:43.000 No, Oddjob is the short one, and we always had the no-Oddjob rule.

00:35:46.000 Yeah, it's like achieving.

00:35:47.000 Jaws sucked, too. 0.88

00:35:48.000 What did he do? 0.95

00:35:49.000 He threw his hat at people?

00:35:50.000 Who would be the one person that unites them all, right?

00:35:53.000 Because that's the thing you need.

00:35:54.000 If you're writing the WWE script, somebody has to show up that unites.

00:35:57.000 Then they have to join forces, right?

00:35:59.000 Like the Power Rangers.

00:36:00.000 Is it TikTok?

00:36:01.000 Is it the Communist Party?

00:36:03.000 I don't know if anyone's opposed to the oligarchs, you know what I mean?

00:36:08.000 They have to be like Logan Paul.

00:36:10.000 Xi Jinping would be the best heel.

00:36:12.000 Xi Jinping would be an amazing heel. 0.94

00:36:14.000 The evil, the bad owner, he'd love it too.

00:36:16.000 That's right, the sweatshops in the background.

00:36:19.000 WWE always did the evil foreigner stereotype in all of them. 0.98

00:36:23.000 I mean, that's his name.

00:36:24.000 The Iron Sheik just passed away, so Xi Jinping would have to take over for the Iron Sheik.

00:36:27.000 He doesn't even have to say anything, he'd just kind of stand there there and like, smile a little bit.

00:36:31.000 And you're like, do I trust him or not?

00:36:32.000 I don't know.

00:36:32.000 Put him in a Winnie the Pooh outfit.

00:36:34.000 Yeah, let's just we're going to completely jump off the cliff

00:36:37.000 on this story and just move on to politics.

00:36:39.000 We have this one from Fox News.

00:36:41.000 Kareem Jean-Pierre spars with reporters refuses to answer Hunter Biden questions in testy exchanges.

00:36:47.000 I was interested because the way it was described to me is that the press corps has completely turned on the Biden

00:36:52.000 administration.

00:36:53.000 I mean, Ian and Benny were both like, it was bad.

00:36:56.000 Dude, we should watch at least part of the four-minute video of the reporters, one after the other, picking up where the other one left off.

00:37:02.000 Creamy, like, I'm not answering that question.

00:37:03.000 You, what do you want?

00:37:04.000 And they're like, well, I just want to continue with their question.

00:37:06.000 She's like, I'm not answering it.

00:37:08.000 Okay, you.

00:37:08.000 And he's like, I want to continue with the old reporter's question.

00:37:11.000 It was...

00:37:12.000 Stunning.

00:37:13.000 But you were saying, Benny, that they're like, they're done with them, and they're getting pushed out because there's the Hunter Biden story, and then there was, more importantly, the Oceangate scandal, where apparently the government knew for a week that this sub had likely imploded, and they didn't tell anybody.

00:37:29.000 This is our federal government's version of Order 66.

00:37:36.000 Joe Biden's getting Order 66'd right now.

00:37:38.000 If you see it, You'll never be able to unsee it.

00:37:42.000 Follow some of the New York Times writers.

00:37:44.000 Follow some of the Washington Post writers.

00:37:45.000 Follow Chuck Todd.

00:37:47.000 We have to do it professionally.

00:37:48.000 I would never recommend you do these things because you'll never get anything useful.

00:37:51.000 What you'll see is the order has gone out.

00:37:54.000 You are now allowed to attack.

00:37:56.000 You are now allowed to ask your question.

00:37:58.000 Why does Chuck Todd, after three years, Chuck Todd finally finds this story interesting, and he leads NBC Nightly News with a seven-minute episode on this?

00:38:08.000 CNN's reporter at the White House was the one who's the most savage in this video that we're going to watch, hopefully.

00:38:14.000 Well, let's play it.

00:38:15.000 To Corinne Jean-Pierre?

00:38:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:17.000 CNN, New York Times, NBC News, they're all ganging up on Biden?

00:38:20.000 Nah, man.

00:38:21.000 Order 66 went out.

00:38:22.000 Let's play this clip.

00:38:23.000 Here we go.

00:38:25.000 Oh, it's not working.

00:38:25.000 What's going on?

00:38:27.000 I'm wondering if you could take us into the thinking and decision-making of why- CNN asking this question.

00:38:32.000 I'm just not going to get into family discussion, personal family discussion.

00:38:36.000 As you know, Hunter is his son.

00:38:37.000 I'm just not going to get into it.

00:38:38.000 Let me ask you this.

00:38:39.000 If Hunter Biden wasn't the president's son, would he have invited someone who had just reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors two days earlier?

00:38:46.000 Well, a couple of things.

00:38:47.000 Again, that's his son.

00:38:48.000 It's a he's a family member. It is not uncommon for family members to attend events at the White House.

00:38:54.000 You could look at past presidents. I'm sure you have. So that is let's jump ahead. So here's the thing I and I

00:39:00.000 appreciate my states was involved as this message seems to suggest, in

00:39:04.000 some sort of coercive conversation for business dealing by assignment. Is that something?

00:39:09.000 So this is they were referring to this text that went out where what Hunter was basically like, I'm sitting here with

00:39:14.000 the big guy right now.

00:39:15.000 And we'll put all our force against you as you do it. He says, I'm sitting here with my father, and he says it twice

00:39:19.000 in the text multiple times.

00:39:21.000 Uh, it's a WhatsApp text, and it has not been refuted.

00:39:24.000 This text seems legitimate.

00:39:26.000 So, his lawyer responded to the text today.

00:39:28.000 Confirming, Hunter Biden's lawyer responded to the text, confirming that it was a legitimate text, that the text is real, to the Communist Chinese, apparatchik.

00:39:36.000 Wow.

00:39:37.000 And, what was the defense?

00:39:38.000 Oh, my client was on drugs at the time.

00:39:41.000 sitting next to his father. I just want to point this out.

00:39:43.000 I kid you not. So this morning we did the first of our new... So the idea for the Culture War 0.66

00:39:48.000 show was always to be like having the debates that we sometimes have on IRL but don't fit the

00:39:53.000 format. We do topical news here, having someone on who's going to debate turns into a debate

00:39:57.000 show. So Friday morning will be.

00:39:59.000 We had on Emma Vigeland and one of the conversations we had was me saying,

00:40:02.000 I don't quite understand why there are so many people on the left who don't like Joe Biden but

00:40:05.000 will absolutely defend him on these scandals instead of just saying, sure.

00:40:12.000 And for some reason, we got into the argument.

00:40:15.000 And this individual, she was very much like, I don't think it's real.

00:40:20.000 The Burisma stuff's not true.

00:40:22.000 You know, there's no evidence to prove it.

00:40:24.000 Shokin was not investigating Zlochevsky, yadda yadda yadda.

00:40:26.000 I'm like, I just, he was, like, I don't understand.

00:40:30.000 But now I'm wondering if they're going to change tune, these lefty types, now that we're seeing the signal flare has gone up.

00:40:38.000 It is now open season to go after Joe Biden on this corruption scandal.

00:40:42.000 I think so.

00:40:43.000 I was like, this is one of the most jaw-dropping pieces of news media I've ever seen in my life.

00:40:49.000 I mean, it is incredible.

00:40:51.000 Anyone that cares or has been following the Hunter Biden scandal, the stuff with Burisma, anyone over the last three to four years, watch this video.

00:40:59.000 Watch it from start to finish.

00:41:00.000 You're going to want more when it ends.

00:41:02.000 I don't know if they only got three and a half out of her, but I mean, this is a tactic that can be continued to be used by the news media until, forbid, they stop.

00:41:11.000 It's like, they're supposed to ask about these stories, but this is the point I was bringing up in the debate show.

00:41:17.000 I'm like, how about if you don't know whether or not Joe Biden did or did not engage in a quid pro quo, you just say, yeah, I don't know enough about that, but I don't like Biden, so I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:41:28.000 How about you just say, I'm not going to comment.

00:41:29.000 For some reason, there's this adamant need among these left personalities.

00:41:33.000 Like, I'm not talking about liberals, either, like leftists will be like, I don't like Joe Biden, I won't defend him, but this story is not true.

00:41:38.000 And I'm like, you don't know anything about the story, why are you defending him?

00:41:41.000 This is what we see.

00:41:42.000 It is, it is the establishment narrative line.

00:41:45.000 It is, it is, you are not approved.

00:41:47.000 The New York Times can come out, how about this, Politico magazine can come out, outright be like, the Biden family fortune has tracked perfectly alongside Biden's career in government.

00:41:59.000 His brother getting contracts to do construction in Iraq, things like this.

00:42:02.000 Politico made a timeline of it.

00:42:04.000 And then they come out and say, never happened.

00:42:05.000 And I'm like, I just don't understand this need to be like, nothing to see here, nothing to see here, Biden's perfect.

00:42:11.000 Now, all of a sudden, with the corporate narrative shifting, probably because they don't want Biden for 2024, now I'm wondering if we'll see these left personals be like, we never liked Biden, what are you talking about?

00:42:22.000 That's exactly what's going to end up happening because they consider the mainstream narrative to be their kind of God in a lot of ways.

00:42:29.000 They don't know how to see things through any other lens because they track anything else as propaganda and anything else as anti-establishment, which gets a label of being like it's against them inherently.

00:42:43.000 You can't ask questions.

00:42:45.000 They don't think you're asking your questions honestly.

00:42:47.000 They think you're asking your questions to trap them in something because you have your own agenda rather than the agenda of just wanting to know what the hell is going on.

00:42:54.000 That's a cult bro.

00:42:55.000 Yeah. 0.90

00:42:55.000 It's because you're evil and you brought it up and right-wingers brought up that Burisma tape thing. 0.90

00:43:00.000 So, like, therefore it has to be invalid.

00:43:02.000 And, you know, you've asked two people about this on air and they haven't seen the video, which is fascinating.

00:43:07.000 Every time we ask a liberal or left personality about the quid pro quo Joe Biden thing, fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars, I've never heard of that.

00:43:07.000 Yeah.

00:43:15.000 Or they say it's RT, so it's not reliable.

00:43:18.000 But that was just a clip from the CFR.

00:43:19.000 It was like- No, it was C-SPAN.

00:43:21.000 Yeah.

00:43:21.000 He's bragging about it.

00:43:22.000 But if you want to see that clip now, isn't that on, like, RT?

00:43:26.000 The behavior isn't necessarily solely on the left.

00:43:30.000 It's a reactionary behavior.

00:43:31.000 And you can get it from people that are either, it kind of comes from fear.

00:43:35.000 I mean, that's a vague term, but like people that are afraid to be trapped, I think for sure.

00:43:38.000 I think that's a big part of it.

00:43:39.000 It's like people like you, they feel like you're about to lead them into a corner where they don't have enough information.

00:43:44.000 And so their inherent reaction is to just lash out.

00:43:47.000 Plus they've had a lot of things held from them for the last two years, three years.

00:43:51.000 After all the social media networks made sure you didn't know what was going on with Hunter Biden, made sure you didn't know what was going on with Burisma.

00:43:58.000 I know plenty of people who just don't even know what that is, who don't know anything that's going on there.

00:44:03.000 But for a public figure or an online figure, agreeing with somebody on the right or the people who shared that Burisma video is worse than the hypocrisy, because who's going to call them out on the hypocrisy?

00:44:12.000 Only people that they perceive to be more on the right than them.

00:44:15.000 That's a cult.

00:44:16.000 So, like, they don't see this clip.

00:44:17.000 Like, again, people, prominent news, cover headline news and politics on a daily basis, come on and they say, I've never seen that clip.

00:44:25.000 You had the show with Hunter where he said, that clip doesn't exist.

00:44:27.000 He actually smuggles like that never happened.

00:44:29.000 Yeah.

00:44:29.000 And I was like, let me pull the clip up for you and you can watch it happen.

00:44:32.000 Like, I don't understand.

00:44:33.000 And he didn't know.

00:44:35.000 And for him, that might be fair because he does more cultural stuff and he admits that.

00:44:38.000 But like for her, she does presidential politics on a daily basis. 0.97

00:44:42.000 And she's like, I've never watched the clip.

00:44:44.000 It's a question of why Hunter said that never happened instead of just being like, I'm not familiar with that, but I'm not going to defend Joe Biden.

00:44:54.000 Yes.

00:44:54.000 Do not fall into that trap.

00:44:56.000 Oh man, this just happened.

00:44:58.000 Keith Oberman saying that Hillary Clinton never smashed her cell phones.

00:45:02.000 He just got destroyed.

00:45:04.000 Nancy Mace tweeted, Nancy Mace, this just happened online for all of us to see and he got community noted into the sun on Twitter.

00:45:11.000 Nancy Mace goes, well it's a tweet and please feel free because it's awesome.

00:45:15.000 It's with the best community note ever.

00:45:16.000 He's like, you know, that didn't happen, right?

00:45:17.000 Yeah.

00:45:17.000 Nancy Mays, like Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump gets arrested, right?

00:45:21.000 Classified document thing.

00:45:22.000 Nancy Mays, this guy, yo, Hillary deleted all these emails and then smashed all of her phones with a hammer. 1.00

00:45:28.000 And Keith Overman says that never happened.

00:45:30.000 Duh.

00:45:31.000 And that's just lying.

00:45:32.000 That's like a couple of days ago or what?

00:45:37.000 It was at least a week ago now.

00:45:39.000 The thing is about that is that's just bad faith.

00:45:41.000 They're doing that because they know that they have large audiences and there's no way they're going to agree to what you said because that tweet then lasts forever.

00:45:49.000 So they're just lying because it's beneficial to them.

00:45:52.000 But then he got community noted through like through the stratosphere with all these links, including a CNN fact check, which is the greatest CNN fact check to ever air ever on any the probably the best 60 seconds to ever air on any cable news ever, where CNN had to get fact checked on air that Hillary Clinton did, in fact, smash all of her devices with a hammer.

00:46:14.000 That was one of their Supreme Court reporters, Boris Epstein.

00:46:17.000 It's classic.

00:46:18.000 Have you seen the fact check from one of these websites on that specifically?

00:46:21.000 It's that Hillary Clinton destroyed her devices, and they were destroyed with a hammer, but she had a staffer do it, therefore it's like mostly false.

00:46:29.000 She didn't acid wash it. 1.00

00:46:33.000 It's like the weasel words are almost unfathomable.

00:46:37.000 It's like when you make a claim, you better be the most specific as humanly possible, otherwise you're a liar, but they can make any general claim and then it's like, well, It's obviously true about you, though, especially if they're accusing you of something.

00:46:50.000 You're right about specific.

00:46:51.000 It is so important in this age of, if you think we're in a culture war, that you use the right words, that you are very specific.

00:46:58.000 And then Hillary Clinton, no, I'm sorry, a Hillary Clinton staffer then took a hammer, it was this ounce hammer, and they smashed it on the ground. 0.52

00:47:05.000 You have to literally say the exact thing, otherwise they're going to use that, because they know, they don't care if people read the fact check, they just want people to see that there's a fact check on it.

00:47:14.000 False.

00:47:15.000 Partially false.

00:47:16.000 Or mostly.

00:47:16.000 So this is a really good, so I pulled a tweet up.

00:47:19.000 Uh, Nancy Mace.

00:47:20.000 Hillary Clinton used a hammer to destroy evidence.

00:47:22.000 She did, but you can argue the semantics of it wasn't her personally.

00:47:26.000 But, uh, she used BleachBit, which is an open source software to purge a hard drive, make it, uh, unrecoverable. 0.99

00:47:32.000 And then her staff used hammers to destroy the phone devices. 1.00

00:47:36.000 He responds, you know that didn't happen, right?

00:47:38.000 Are you okay?

00:47:38.000 You seem to have been hallucinating a lot lately.

00:47:40.000 Of course, he's fact-checked then by CNN, Business Insider, and Snopes, proving Hillary Clinton did in fact have her phones destroyed by a hammer.

00:47:47.000 This is a crazy thing.

00:47:48.000 I don't know if they're lying or that they're just... Is the problem. 1.00

00:47:54.000 Stupid people on the internet are tribal and will attract followers and continue to say stupid things, and then we're just arguing with brick walls. 1.00

00:48:05.000 I used to give them the benefit of the doubt. 1.00

00:48:06.000 I don't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore.

00:48:08.000 Very rarely do I give them the benefit of the doubt that I think that he just didn't know that.

00:48:12.000 I think that a lot of them are just acting in bad faith.

00:48:15.000 Because semantics do matter, right?

00:48:19.000 He says it didn't happen.

00:48:21.000 He says everything you're saying is false.

00:48:23.000 It's wrong.

00:48:23.000 Not that your words are somehow incorrect, or Hillary didn't do it personally.

00:48:27.000 He's saying everything you're saying is a lie.

00:48:29.000 Which is really important.

00:48:30.000 She said Hillary Clinton did it, and that's not true.

00:48:33.000 Her staffer did it. 0.98

00:48:34.000 That's incorrect.

00:48:35.000 But that's incorrect.

00:48:38.000 If you were going to, if I claimed definitively, the statement of fact, Hillary Clinton used

00:48:44.000 a hammer to destroy evidence in a private email server as a hard statement of fact,

00:48:50.000 Like, judgment proof.

00:48:51.000 That is a fact statement that is true and provably true.

00:48:56.000 Now, if I were to say Hillary Clinton grabbed a hammer in her bare hands and in a blinding rage shattered those phones, that would not be true.

00:49:05.000 Hillary Clinton did use a hammer to destroy the devices. 1.00

00:49:07.000 She had her staffers take a hammer and use the hammer to do it. 1.00

00:49:10.000 So it's a question of, when it comes to statements of fact, whether it's defamation or not, what Nancy May said is a true statement.

00:49:19.000 You might argue, well you should clarify, Hillary Clinton had staff members destroy phones with a hammer, and that's probably a better way to phrase it.

00:49:27.000 I don't think she was thinking... I don't think Nancy Mace was like, how do I articulate this perfectly?

00:49:30.000 I think she was like, Hillary Clinton used a hammer to do this because she did. 1.00

00:49:33.000 Just, if it does imply that Hillary personally did it, I think clarification is fine.

00:49:38.000 Keith Upperman is either lying or just...

00:49:42.000 This is the problem. 1.00

00:49:43.000 Keith Olbermann clearly is either lying, which I think we all would agree may be the case, or he's really, really dumb and arrogant. 1.00

00:49:51.000 That's possible. 1.00

00:49:52.000 He is both dumb, arrogant, and lying. 1.00

00:49:54.000 The point of semantic arguments is to obfuscate the point of the discussion. 1.00

00:49:58.000 It's to get you distracted.

00:50:00.000 And now you're no longer talking about what the actual consequences of the emails are.

00:50:04.000 The point of it is to talk about, oh, now we're talking about, that's very nice.

00:50:08.000 I'm waving a shame.

00:50:11.000 So now you're no longer talking about why she destroyed the emails, why she destroyed any of this, why she deleted all these things.

00:50:16.000 Now you're talking about the semantics of the argument and then you don't even get to the actual debate about what happened.

00:50:21.000 And that's basically social media in a nutshell.

00:50:24.000 And they would do anything in order to say it's mostly false or partially false. 0.96

00:50:27.000 So if you said she destroyed her blackberries and one of the seven devices was a Nokia, they'd be like, you liar!

00:50:32.000 Who was the guy with the Nokia?

00:50:34.000 That's the real question.

00:50:36.000 And they use the red and green color too.

00:50:38.000 This is what Snopes does.

00:50:40.000 You will come out and say, Hillary Clinton had her phone smashed with a hammer. 0.99

00:50:45.000 Snopes won't take that statement, because that statement is yes or no.

00:50:50.000 They will make up their own question.

00:50:52.000 Did Hillary Clinton smash her phone with a hammer? 1.00

00:50:54.000 We're not saying that.

00:50:55.000 We're saying that she had it done.

00:50:58.000 They've reframed the question so they can then say, mixture.

00:51:02.000 Well, Hillary Clinton did not personally destroy... What I love what they do is, The headline question of the game is one they do.

00:51:09.000 There's also the false qualifier statement they'll do.

00:51:13.000 Donald Trump will do a backflip off the balcony of the White House and land in a superhero pose.

00:51:17.000 And they'll say, did Donald Trump actually do a backflip off the balcony of the White House into a superhero pose, comma, on Sunday?

00:51:23.000 False, in big letters.

00:51:25.000 They'll then write 500 words about the story and the claims at the bottom and say, while it is true he did the backflip, it was on Saturday, not Sunday.

00:51:31.000 Lie by structure.

00:51:32.000 Exactly.

00:51:33.000 You gotta click the CNN link.

00:51:34.000 That nobody ever reads to the end of the article.

00:51:37.000 The CNN one's the famous one where they're like, no, no, pull that up, pull that up.

00:51:41.000 This is from a while ago.

00:51:44.000 Let's play it.

00:51:45.000 Is it going to play?

00:51:46.000 They might have an ad.

00:51:47.000 It might be in there.

00:51:47.000 Oh, no.

00:51:48.000 No ad.

00:51:48.000 Why?

00:51:49.000 Because the FBI had an exhaustive yearlong investigation.

00:51:53.000 They talked to probably dozens and dozens and dozens of people.

00:51:56.000 Hours, hours and hours of testimony.

00:51:58.000 And the decision not to recommend prosecution for was absolutely unanimous.

00:52:02.000 Was it careless?

00:52:03.000 Yes.

00:52:03.000 Was it a mistake?

00:52:04.000 Yes.

00:52:04.000 As Hillary Clinton said, I should not have done this.

00:52:07.000 And if I ever had to do it again, I'd make a different decision.

00:52:09.000 Was it criminal?

00:52:10.000 No.

00:52:10.000 It was not criminal.

00:52:11.000 So I guess that's the benchmark now to become president.

00:52:13.000 Let's go through the facts.

00:52:18.000 17,500 emails that she lied about turning over.

00:52:21.000 The server wipe.

00:52:22.000 Within weeks of there being a report that she had a private server, it was wiped.

00:52:25.000 She thought that C, which stands for classified, stood for cookie or something.

00:52:30.000 She thought that drone strikes.

00:52:32.000 are not classified. She said that the reason she used the private service for

00:52:36.000 convenience and she only had one device, she used 13 Blackberries, let me finish, 1.00

00:52:41.000 and five iPads. At least she doesn't just stick to either Blackberry or iPad. This is

00:52:46.000 somebody who is absolutely disqualified from becoming president. They destroyed

00:52:51.000 Blackberries with hammers in the State Department. That's not what won the

00:52:55.000 presidency. Hang on, Evan Perez. Hammers, fact check that.

00:53:01.000 that for me please on the fly.

00:53:03.000 Yes, they did.

00:53:04.000 There were 13 devices, mobile devices and five iPads.

00:53:09.000 She thought she did something.

00:53:12.000 The FBI said that, you know, in some way were used with her private email server.

00:53:17.000 And they did in some cases just destroy them with hammers when they were done.

00:53:21.000 Which doesn't do anything to stop, to get rid of the data on it.

00:53:25.000 You can easily, you can, I think if, I'll be very careful with my words.

00:53:30.000 Even after these things are burned in fires, you can still recover data from them. 1.00

00:53:34.000 And it's, it's, the smashing with hammer, absolutely idiotic. 0.99

00:53:38.000 So the question then is, why is Olbermann asserting something that is not true? 1.00

00:53:42.000 Is it because he's stupid and arrogant, or is he intentionally trying to lie? 0.99

00:53:47.000 I believe that the left has a Munchausen-by-proxy relationship with their audience, and that they intentionally lie because they know that they're a cult that will only believe what comes out of the glowing box, and they want that cult to be manipulatable, they need that cult to be actionable, and they need them to be the NPC meme, where you just take the chip out of the back of the head and you replace it with Black Lives Matter, or the transgender flag, or whatever. 0.99

00:54:15.000 You need to be programmable.

00:54:16.000 They want programmable people.

00:54:18.000 George Orwell talks about this in 1984.

00:54:20.000 You need these people to be programmable.

00:54:23.000 The value of a loyal servant is what lie will you swallow?

00:54:29.000 The value of the loyal servitude of the left, the Borg, is will you say that two plus two equals five? 0.55

00:54:38.000 That's right.

00:54:38.000 There are five lights.

00:54:40.000 You mentioned the Borg, so I had to make it a Star Trek reference.

00:54:42.000 Yeah, my guess— The famous story is when Captain Picard's being tortured.

00:54:47.000 There are four lights, and he's told to say there are five, and he refuses, so they keep torturing him until—but he never does it.

00:54:51.000 That's right.

00:54:52.000 I was—yesterday, I was pretty down, thinking like, oh, actually, maybe evil triumphs over good, usually, and they just tell everyone that they were the good guys.

00:54:58.000 Like, what is this whole—I felt so down and so, like, hopeless, and then I was like, Oh, how easy it would be to just say, yo, go Ukraine.

00:55:05.000 I'm all in.

00:55:05.000 I'm going to get my central bank digital currency.

00:55:07.000 Just let me live in peace.

00:55:09.000 I don't want to think about it.

00:55:10.000 How easy.

00:55:11.000 Yeah.

00:55:11.000 Yes.

00:55:12.000 The Borg.

00:55:12.000 The Borg life is easy.

00:55:14.000 You sit back.

00:55:15.000 You ever seen WALL-E?

00:55:16.000 You just sit back. 1.00

00:55:17.000 You're a slob. 1.00

00:55:18.000 You're in your floating chair. 1.00

00:55:19.000 Have you seen that movie, The School for Good and Evil?

00:55:23.000 So I'm unable to work, so of course I'm just watching whatever's available, and I watched this movie, and it's basically, it's like a kid, teenage movie or whatever, where, I don't know what the point of the movie was, it was pretty dumb, but the idea is that in the fairytale world, there's a school that has an evil side and a good side, and they train all the Prince Charmings, and they train all the wicked witches, and, spoiler alert, I'm gonna ruin the story for all of you, to go on to, but you've been warned, spoiler.

00:55:23.000 Mm-mm.

00:55:49.000 The actual outcome of the story is the good side was corrupted hundreds of years ago and they had become vain and vapid and snooty and narcissistic and they were gloating about how good they were but they're actually fairly corrupted and evil and so you know that was your point like I just watched this movie and that was the idea they they actually conveyed that what we think of as good has been corrupted a long time ago and now it's just vanity and It's like the Biden administration.

00:56:13.000 You see this all the time.

00:56:14.000 They just wrap themselves in the American flag.

00:56:16.000 They wrap themselves in democracy.

00:56:18.000 Merrick Garland said it today. 0.99

00:56:20.000 He was called on his bullshit today on going to a party last night at the White House with the guy he's supposed to be investigating. 0.99

00:56:27.000 Two guys, Jim Biden and Hunter Biden. 1.00

00:56:29.000 He's supposed to be investigating both of them.

00:56:31.000 And Merrick Garland is at a party with them.

00:56:33.000 So you said earlier... So Merrick Garland said today, sorry to interrupt you, but I just got to finish.

00:56:36.000 His comment today was, if you attack the Department of Justice, you're attacking our democracy.

00:56:41.000 That's what he said.

00:56:41.000 If you question the Department of Justice, you're attacking our democracy.

00:56:44.000 It's always our democracy.

00:56:44.000 That's lame.

00:56:47.000 Evil.

00:56:48.000 Smart people would impeach Merrick Garland and let Joe Biden run.

00:56:50.000 The reason that the reporters are going haywire now and just turning on Biden is because they feel ashamed about how they were misled about the submersible story.

00:56:58.000 Was that an assumption?

00:57:00.000 That's what I think.

00:57:01.000 I think when you embarrass them and make them look bad personally, they're petty and they get mad at that.

00:57:07.000 And as for the Keith Olbermann thing, remember, he's an anchor actor.

00:57:09.000 He doesn't do what you do, where you do your research and then you... Somebody else puts the things in the prompter.

00:57:14.000 So he might not be... I don't think he's technically stupid, but he might actually not be lying. 0.96

00:57:20.000 Look, I think... I genuinely think that a large component of the culture war divide is intelligence. 0.97

00:57:29.000 And we were having this joke about doing a culture war episode where we, I think Seamus made the joke, he said there's this new podcast where they get a bunch of, you know, young girls who have never, was that Seamus who said that? 0.97

00:57:40.000 Young girls who have never been challenged on anything and then make them look stupid or whatever. 0.93

00:57:44.000 And then we were all joking about how we should have like a 56-year-old PhD conservative guy debate and like three 18-year-old Doesn't the Whatever podcast already do that? 0.99

00:57:53.000 Yeah, they did recently, actually.

00:57:54.000 With like a 55-year-old PhD.

00:57:56.000 Yeah, he was like a doctor, and he was talking to girls.

00:57:58.000 He had some credential.

00:58:00.000 But the joke was that the girls would actually win.

00:58:04.000 Because the guy would be like, when you read this study here, we can see this from, you know, Sordensen et al. 1.00

00:58:09.000 They talk about it, and they're like, oh, you are so dumb. 1.00

00:58:12.000 And they're going to start being like, don't you think he's stupid? 1.00

00:58:15.000 Say it again. 1.00

00:58:16.000 You're dumb. 1.00

00:58:17.000 And he's going to be like, can you let me finish my point? 1.00

00:58:19.000 And they're going to laugh.

00:58:19.000 Then they're going to start calling him names.

00:58:21.000 And then he's going to be like, do you agree that there is a larger percentage of X when it comes to Y?

00:58:25.000 And they're going to be like, you mean like at a pizza shop?

00:58:29.000 And he's like, no, I'm talking about the economics in this country.

00:58:31.000 And I mean, you want to buy pizza?

00:58:34.000 And he's going to be like, I can't do this.

00:58:36.000 It's impossible.

00:58:37.000 These people.

00:58:37.000 And they'll be like, that's not hot.

00:58:39.000 I'm going to go have babies.

00:58:40.000 This is the culture war.

00:58:41.000 This is the culture war.

00:58:42.000 When we sit down with someone, and this is why you don't see liberals come on shows like this, they rarely want to, there's a small handful that do, and they often grift, and then I'm like, this is the problem we run into when we do things like this.

00:58:55.000 It's kind of like rehashing the show we did this morning, I know that, but at the same time, when I see Keith Olbermann tweeting this, it brings this up to me.

00:59:05.000 You can't have a conversation with someone who is, you can't argue policy with someone who can't comprehend policy. 0.99

00:59:11.000 And that is the culture war today.

00:59:13.000 If you say something like, you know, I think that we need to, I'll give you an example.

00:59:18.000 We were talking about the issue of trans kids, and I said, we have a study that shows desistance is 68 to 95, 61 to 95% with no intervention.

00:59:29.000 That would indicate that no intervention is the safest course of action for children.

00:59:33.000 And Emma did not understand that and said, but the doctors say it's good, so we should do it.

00:59:38.000 And if my point is, the study we have suggests X, and the response is, but the government, I shouldn't say government, but the authority says it's good, you can't convince someone who doesn't understand the math or the science or the argument.

00:59:52.000 It's a brick wall.

00:59:53.000 I think that's a debate tactic.

00:59:54.000 Appeal to authority, it's literally.

00:59:56.000 over and over and over again.

00:59:57.000 I'm like.

00:59:58.000 It's appeal to authority and that's why the school system's so good at it, right?

01:00:00.000 Because they're trained to appeal to authority right from the very beginning.

01:00:03.000 So they're just going to defer to whatever the person in charge says,

01:00:06.000 even if there's data that proves that person in charge to be incorrect.

01:00:10.000 So a really good example of the challenges we're facing in the culture war from this morning.

01:00:15.000 For those that listen to this show, y'all know that we've actually had this debate quite a bit

01:00:19.000 over what it means to support parental rights.

01:00:24.000 Ron DeSantis passes this bill for the legislature, the parental rights in education, and then we have the conversation of what does it mean to be in favor of parents' rights?

01:00:32.000 What if the parents want the right to have a doctor prescribe a sex change to their child? 0.99

01:00:36.000 Well, every conservative media says, no, you don't have that right and the government should stop you.

01:00:39.000 Okay, so it's not parental rights.

01:00:40.000 Then on the left, I actually asked Emma, what about the government mandating children get vaccines?

01:00:45.000 She goes, well, yes, I believe in public health.

01:00:47.000 And I'm like, okay, so you're not in favor of parental rights.

01:00:50.000 The saying you're for or against parental rights is a completely meaningless statement, because everyone's moral line is going to be completely different.

01:00:56.000 We talk about that quite a bit.

01:00:58.000 She could not grasp that concept.

01:01:00.000 And it's very difficult to have a real conversation with someone who doesn't understand the, or, not even that, but can't actually comprehend basic moral philosophy.

01:01:11.000 So it's, if we're sitting in a room and we're saying, let us break down why we have the policy, should we enact a different policy, and how can we make the lives better for everybody, and they say, Duh.

01:01:24.000 I don't understand what you're saying.

01:01:26.000 We can't carry on that conversation.

01:01:27.000 She called hypotheticals right-wing.

01:01:30.000 She was like, I'm not going to engage in your right-wing tactic of hypotheticals.

01:01:33.000 It was amazing.

01:01:34.000 It was wild to hear that.

01:01:35.000 But this is exactly the point.

01:01:38.000 You get a bunch of people, when I was mentioning the conservative Ph.D. 1.00

01:01:41.000 guy and a bunch of young girls who are just giggling and laughing and saying you're dumb. 0.99

01:01:44.000 There's no conversation to be had. 0.99

01:01:46.000 Now here's the real challenge. 1.00

01:01:47.000 Those three giggling, dumb, vapid teenage girls have three votes to that conservative Ph.D.' 's one vote. 1.00

01:01:53.000 And this is what we're dealing with in the culture war. 0.99

01:01:55.000 And I bring this up because I'm seeing, like, the Keith Olbermann thing.

01:01:58.000 When it comes to issues of Burisma, when it comes to issues of Hillary Clinton doing these things, these are not left or right wing things.

01:02:04.000 These are things that are discernibly true that we have questions about.

01:02:07.000 I can sit here and be like, Barack Obama killed Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki in a drone strike in a civilian restaurant in Yemen, and he should be criminally charged and prosecuted, and if found guilty, be held accountable for murder of an American citizen.

01:02:19.000 Donald Trump ordered a commando raid in Yemen.

01:02:21.000 Which reportedly, according to the family, resulted in the death of an eight-year-old girl, Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki's sister.

01:02:27.000 That should be investigated.

01:02:28.000 If it is brought to an investigation, Trump should be charged, same as Obama.

01:02:32.000 However, I think that story might be a bit less credible than the Obama one, which we know for a fact did happen, they've admitted to.

01:02:38.000 I still think both warrant the same legal jurisprudence.

01:02:41.000 I can say those things.

01:02:43.000 But for some reason, when you have a conversation with someone like Keith Olbermann or many liberals, they will just be like, The Burisma video never happened.

01:02:51.000 And I'm like, you know you're making that up, because we have the video to play.

01:02:56.000 It did happen.

01:02:57.000 And they're saying, he was never being investigated.

01:02:59.000 But we know for a fact, and there's a sworn affidavit from Shokin, there were a dozen investigations into Mykola Zlochevsky.

01:03:05.000 Instead of actually engaging with you, they'll either be unable to actually comprehend the moral philosophy, or the math and science behind what you're arguing, and then they'll just lie.

01:03:16.000 I think the tribalism nature of it short circuits their brain just a little bit.

01:03:20.000 Like, you can't actually go forward when you have a dog in the fight of who wins.

01:03:24.000 So it's like, if we're okay with the idea that Obama is prosecuted for war crimes, and you also have to be okay with the idea that Trump would be prosecuted for the same thing if he did indeed do that same thing.

01:03:36.000 But if they have a dog in the fight, if they say, no, I cannot let Barack Obama or Joe Biden or whoever fall because I believe so strongly in the leftist cause,

01:03:46.000 I guess it's not really liberal, it's neoliberal at best.

01:03:49.000 Like you can't allow new data because you're just not going to believe

01:03:54.000 that that's actually true.

01:03:55.000 You just think they're trying to get one over on you because they believe that you're every bit as tribal

01:03:58.000 as they are.

01:03:59.000 Sort of, but I do think cognitive incapabilities is a strong, is a stronger component of this.

01:04:08.000 A couple examples, when we had Matt Binder on, he kept saying, you think trans people don't exist, which is a nonsense statement that conveys no logical thought other than it's a thing the left says.

01:04:17.000 And when I responded with, they certainly exist.

01:04:19.000 I think trans kids exist.

01:04:21.000 We've had trans people on this show.

01:04:22.000 What are you saying?

01:04:23.000 He didn't have a response because if you're not smart enough to actually understand a position, you'll just say thing.

01:04:29.000 Then we had Lance from the Surfside and he said, you're for forced birth.

01:04:33.000 And I said, what does that mean?

01:04:34.000 And he did not have a response.

01:04:36.000 Because it's a thing they say.

01:04:38.000 There's no actual substance behind it.

01:04:40.000 It is very much like an NPC in a video game you walk up to and he says, welcome to the inn.

01:04:45.000 And then you can type in whatever you want.

01:04:47.000 How was your day today?

01:04:48.000 And they'll say, the inn sells wares.

01:04:50.000 And they'll never respond to you properly.

01:04:52.000 They never get past the slogan.

01:04:55.000 Right.

01:04:55.000 So they hear the slogan repeated enough times on social media.

01:04:58.000 It's almost like your brain bypasses actually putting thought into what that means.

01:05:02.000 So it is kind of like what you're saying.

01:05:04.000 They are just kind of programmed.

01:05:05.000 And I do think there is an aspect of it because like, I'm a dummy.

01:05:09.000 I'm a dummy, but I'm also not biased as to, I don't really care who's guilty or I care about who's guilty and who's innocent.

01:05:14.000 I don't have a dog in the fight of whether it's Trump, whether it's Obama.

01:05:18.000 I just want it to be I want the facts.

01:05:20.000 But everyone in this room right now, and I would say the overwhelming majority of guests we have on this show, can understand a concept of A plus B equals C. So if I say, here's my position, they go, oh, okay, I understand, I disagree with you.

01:05:35.000 Whereas these conversations with these lefties is just like blank stare confusion and then nonsense response.

01:05:40.000 I really think a lot of it more just has to do with the tribal.

01:05:43.000 I think the tribalism short circuits their brain, but also maybe they don't engage in enough healthy debate with people that they generally agree with.

01:05:50.000 People here are going to agree and disagree on various things all the time, right?

01:05:54.000 Like we could have a debate on any topic here tonight.

01:05:56.000 We may fall in line on some things and see eye to eye on other things.

01:05:59.000 We'll see things differently.

01:06:00.000 I don't think that happens to them that very much.

01:06:02.000 I think they go with consensus.

01:06:03.000 So Ben Rhodes did an interview.

01:06:05.000 He was Barack Obama's national security advisor.

01:06:07.000 And Ben Rhodes is the guy who was also found weeping when Hillary Clinton lost in 2016.

01:06:12.000 You remember that video?

01:06:12.000 He's actually sobbing out back.

01:06:15.000 And Ben Rhodes does this really instructive interview about how they were able to get so many lies manufactured and merchandised and laundered in the Obama administration about the Iran deal, about what they were doing in the Middle East, about the drone strikes.

01:06:29.000 And he says, oh, Oh, guys, do you know who makes up reporters?

01:06:34.000 You think it's a bunch of Walter Cronkites shuffling around with dandruff on their jackets being like, well, actually, in the Carter era, he's like, no.

01:06:41.000 And I'm paraphrasing Ben Rhodes.

01:06:43.000 He says it's 27 year olds.

01:06:45.000 They don't know anything.

01:06:47.000 They've done one campaign gig.

01:06:48.000 That's it.

01:06:49.000 One campaign gig for Bloomberg.

01:06:51.000 And they come here for the cocktail parties.

01:06:53.000 They'll believe anything I tell them.

01:06:55.000 And I can merchandise anything I want about the Iran deal to them.

01:06:59.000 I can tell them any lie I want and they will just print it in Bloomberg.

01:07:03.000 It's worse than that.

01:07:05.000 You get some 24-year-old, fresh out of college, $50,000 a year, starting journalist, and you go to them and say, you work in the government, you say, I'm going to be your source.

01:07:16.000 You are going to have all of the inside scoops on all of these stories, and it's going to make you a household name.

01:07:22.000 And then they go, oh boy, I have a source.

01:07:25.000 And then they're gonna go to their boss and they're gonna be like, here's my source in the government.

01:07:29.000 They'll tell me whatever I ask.

01:07:31.000 And that person's gonna be like, we are gonna get so many clicks. 0.83

01:07:35.000 So they'll go to them and say, source says that Donald Trump, you know, kicked a dog.

01:07:39.000 And they'll be like, well, then write the source said so.

01:07:42.000 And then we can't be sued for defamation because it's a true statement.

01:07:45.000 Not that he kicked the dog, but that a source said he did.

01:07:48.000 And that's my favorite was sources familiar with Trump's thinking.

01:07:52.000 You remember all those stories?

01:07:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:54.000 They're just writing nonsense garbage. 1.00

01:07:57.000 Yeah.

01:07:57.000 So my main point with all of this was, you know, and we're going to be doing these culture war shows every Friday, so it's going to be a whole lot more of this.

01:08:08.000 I really think that the challenge we face is the culture war may be People of... The social media is granting access of people of low cognitive function to spaces of high-level discourse. 0.86

01:08:24.000 And we respectfully allow them to have these conversations, but it's like a 55-year-old, you know, PhD political scientist having a debate with three 18-year-old teenage girls who Like, don't do anything other than go on TikTok and Instagram.

01:08:40.000 And that's it.

01:08:42.000 And you know, here's the funny thing.

01:08:43.000 Those 18-year-old girls, they'll tell you all about BLM. 1.00

01:08:46.000 They'll tell you all about, you know, Pride because they're on social media.

01:08:49.000 Oh, they posted the black square?

01:08:50.000 Yeah.

01:08:51.000 They were excited to post that black square.

01:08:54.000 And then they'll be like, I know because I saw the video.

01:08:57.000 And you can go to them and be like, here's the study.

01:08:59.000 It says you're wrong.

01:09:00.000 They'll be like, nope, I'm right.

01:09:01.000 Yeah, it's called cognitive dissonance, at least one way to term it.

01:09:04.000 And I think it is a good thing to have those conversations, even when they feel fruitless sometimes, because it doesn't all happen at once.

01:09:11.000 You don't change someone's mind in a moment.

01:09:13.000 Every once in a while you do, but it's pretty rare.

01:09:14.000 It usually takes time.

01:09:15.000 And a lot of it is just about making people calm.

01:09:18.000 I think that's a big part of the culture war and winning the culture war.

01:09:21.000 I think the goal...

01:09:24.000 So for those that watched the Culture War show today, go to youtube.com slash TimCast, check it out.

01:09:28.000 It was live.

01:09:30.000 Emma Vigeland, Sean Fitzgerald, aka ActualJusticeWarrior, we were all having this conversation.

01:09:36.000 I will say, again, I felt a little bad because it did seem like two versus one because I wasn't intending on that.

01:09:42.000 But I think there's one really important point that people need to understand about why I want to do shows like this.

01:09:47.000 I do not believe we will convince Emma or anyone at the majority report or any liberal or leftist of any of our positions, but I don't care.

01:09:55.000 What I think is important is that we produced a show where Emma said that she wanted children to be able to watch porn at the age of 10 years old.

01:10:02.000 And so I'm like, I don't need you to argue that point to me.

01:10:07.000 I don't care.

01:10:08.000 What I need to do is when I'm talking to my friend from back home in Chicago who's telling me it never happened, I'm going to play that clip of me being like, we should not be showing a book to children that contains blowjobs and have this person on the left say, we should and it's fine and they're okay with it.

01:10:25.000 And I'm like, that's all I needed.

01:10:26.000 I needed for you to say it so I can prove to people you believe these things.

01:10:31.000 So they can, I'm like, you're allowed to believe that, and she did, adamantly defend kink education and pornography for children. 1.00

01:10:39.000 And I'm like, you can absolutely be on board with it.

01:10:43.000 I'm not telling you to stop believing any of that. 0.94

01:10:46.000 I think it's disgusting.

01:10:47.000 I just need you to say it.

01:10:49.000 Say it right there to the camera, for everyone to watch, so that finally, when I go to my friend and say, you know these people put porn in schools, they'll say, that's not true.

01:10:57.000 I'll be like, let me play the video for you.

01:10:58.000 Let me show you the clip where they, and then here's the book, and now they'll be like, oh I guess they do support those things.

01:11:03.000 The Borg will end up ending your career.

01:11:05.000 So to come here today, I flew into Virginia.

01:11:08.000 And Virginia, by every right, should have a Democrat governor.

01:11:11.000 Why don't they?

01:11:12.000 Many would argue that Terry McAuliffe was just unpopular or whatever.

01:11:16.000 Nope.

01:11:17.000 Actually, it goes directly back to a single point in time.

01:11:20.000 Their Previous Democrat governor on a radio show, live like we are now, said that children should be born and then the mother should stare at her child in the bassinet and decide whether it should die.

01:11:34.000 He said they should comfort the babies, keep them comfortable, and then the mother should have a decision of a post-birth abortion.

01:11:44.000 I tried to explain that to people because I'm from Minnesota.

01:11:46.000 What was the guy's name?

01:11:47.000 Northam.

01:11:49.000 So in Minnesota, they just passed similar legislation, right?

01:11:52.000 And I was trying to explain to my friend, this was 2018 when this happened, right?

01:11:56.000 It was 2018 or 2019.

01:11:56.000 And somebody's like, that sounds crazy.

01:11:58.000 Like that's a, that's a one-off.

01:12:00.000 That's where I'm like, no, this is becoming mainstream.

01:12:02.000 And in a couple of years, it will make its way to places like Minnesota, where the government is shifting very, very far.

01:12:08.000 They're left with, uh, what's his name?

01:12:10.000 Um, uh, Walt, right?

01:12:11.000 So it's like, you, you don't get to just laugh it off and stick your head in the sand and say, this isn't happening or I don't think it's that big of a

01:12:18.000 deal.

01:12:19.000 There is an argument to be made, depending on how politically active the person you're having

01:12:24.000 this discussion with, you have to watch your tone because if you get too...

01:12:27.000 Because these things upset people, right? And you're like, no, this is real. And you

01:12:30.000 shove it in their face. A lot of times people just shut down and they don't want to have that

01:12:35.000 That's a lot to just throw on someone at a moment's notice, but I think it goes to what you're saying about keeping people calm because you have to keep them calm and informed because as these things continue to happen, as these things continue to grow in other legislations, you need the evidence that these people actually think this way because it does sound ridiculous.

01:12:53.000 That's child sacrifice by every definition.

01:12:56.000 That's the sacrifice of a child.

01:12:57.000 That's child sacrifice. 1.00

01:12:58.000 It's not like I'm it's not a pejorative.

01:13:01.000 Okay, metaphorical child.

01:13:03.000 It's a literal child sacrifice like Aztec level child sacrifice is what the governor of Virginia advocated for and so Democrats need to own that because that's their party and you need to absorb the fact that that's what you represent.

01:13:15.000 They just run fact checks saying it didn't happen, it didn't happen, it didn't happen.

01:13:18.000 And then what they'll do is, they'll run a headline that says, didn't Ralph Northam, on a video, advocate for and explain post-birth abortion?

01:13:25.000 False.

01:13:26.000 And then what they'll say is, the governor was referring to babies who were born with abnormalities who could not survive on their own and need a resuscitation.

01:13:34.000 He was not talking about abortion.

01:13:36.000 Weasel words.

01:13:37.000 Is that true?

01:13:37.000 The point is, you can't abort a baby that's already been born.

01:13:41.000 It wouldn't be post-birth abortion, it would be a murder. 0.99

01:13:43.000 Exactly!

01:13:43.000 Or a sanctioned death if you make it legal.

01:13:45.000 And so they can say he wasn't talking about abortion because the fact of the matter is he's talking about killing a baby.

01:13:50.000 But he was talking about killing children that had like severe deformities and wouldn't survive?

01:13:54.000 I don't think so.

01:13:55.000 No, he was not.

01:13:55.000 He was talking about a bill.

01:13:56.000 It should just be the mom's decision.

01:13:58.000 He was talking about a bill on the floor of the Virginia Senate.

01:14:01.000 They had written that bill and the bill was written in a way that the mom could decide that once the baby's born she 0.90

01:14:06.000 doesn't want it.

01:14:06.000 There was a judge that asked, what was her name, was it Nancy Tran was her name?

01:14:11.000 Do you want someone to fact check real quick?

01:14:13.000 He said, something like this, straight, with your bill, a woman could get an abortion up to the point of birth. 0.99

01:14:19.000 And she goes, there are no restrictions.

01:14:21.000 And he goes, the baby is crowning and she goes, there are no restrictions.

01:14:25.000 And so that's what he was talking to specifically.

01:14:25.000 Yeah.

01:14:27.000 Was it, was it?

01:14:28.000 It was like if they botched it a late term and then the baby was out of the womb, then what would you do?

01:14:33.000 I think was the context for Northam saying, we'll get comforted and make a decision.

01:14:37.000 It's Kathy Tran.

01:14:38.000 I always say Nancy for some reason.

01:14:40.000 They're taking a mother who's gone through something that is like physically traumatic, right?

01:14:44.000 The entire process, right?

01:14:46.000 And she's starved of oxytocin. 0.87

01:14:48.000 Her body's going through all these things.

01:14:50.000 They're saying, hey, you want to keep the kid?

01:14:51.000 That's insane.

01:14:56.000 Uh-oh, Snopes, did you see it?

01:14:58.000 The claim, Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, quote, stated he would execute a baby after birth, mostly false. 0.99

01:15:04.000 I hate these people.

01:15:05.000 It's not totally false, just mostly false because it's ambiguous. 0.56

01:15:08.000 They don't know.

01:15:08.000 You're going to make us play the clip, aren't you?

01:15:11.000 Alex Jones was on our show and did a great Ralph Northam impression.

01:15:13.000 Did Virginia Governor Ralph Northam say he would execute a baby after birth?

01:15:16.000 They put it in quotes.

01:15:17.000 And they put mostly false.

01:15:19.000 He did not state he would execute a... See, nobody said he said that!

01:15:19.000 So it's kind of true!

01:15:22.000 And they're using the term execute.

01:15:24.000 The ambiguity of Northam's remarks about late-term abortions, which has not since clarified, raised questions about what exactly he was proposing or advocating.

01:15:30.000 He literally... Alright, do we have the clip?

01:15:33.000 Do they even play the clip?

01:15:34.000 Oh man, hey props to them for playing this.

01:15:37.000 Can we...

01:15:38.000 ...would remove the following statutes.

01:15:40.000 Trap or targeted regulations of abortion providers... Let me see if I can... ...is worthy of an abortion.

01:15:46.000 I'm not gonna play the whole thing.

01:15:48.000 Like, they should play this.

01:15:50.000 The Northam clip is short, and if you can find that, that's short.

01:15:53.000 He's just like, you know, the baby will be kept comfortable while we decide... Next turn back to NBC4's Julie Carey.

01:15:58.000 And governors, you know the issue of abortion rights emerges every year in the General Assembly session.

01:16:03.000 This year, no exception.

01:16:05.000 There was a very contentious committee hearing yesterday when Fairfax County Delegate Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions, as well as other restrictions now in place.

01:16:15.000 And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion, even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth.

01:16:24.000 And she answered, that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor. 0.89

01:16:30.000 Do you support her measure and explain her answer?

01:16:34.000 Yeah, you know, I wasn't there, Julie, and I certainly can't speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you, one, the first thing I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers.

01:16:48.000 Programming.

01:16:49.000 Here's the programming.

01:16:49.000 Physicians.

01:16:50.000 And the mothers and fathers that are involved.

01:16:50.000 The programmed answer.

01:16:55.000 There are, you know, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.

01:17:09.000 And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that's non-viable.

01:17:15.000 So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.

01:17:22.000 The infant would be delivered.

01:17:24.000 The infant would be kept comfortable.

01:17:26.000 The infant would be resuscitated, if that's what the mother and the family desired.

01:17:31.000 And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. 0.73

01:17:35.000 So I think this was really blown out of proportion.

01:17:38.000 But again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions.

01:17:43.000 We want the decision to be made by The mothers and their providers.

01:17:48.000 And this is why, Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men, by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body.

01:17:58.000 Wait, wait, wait!

01:17:59.000 Should have to weigh in as is currently required.

01:18:02.000 She's trying to lift that requirement. 1.00

01:18:04.000 Well, I think it's always good to get a second opinion and for at least... I wanted it to play out to show you that the context did not circle back and that there was no other further clarifying points and I want to stress he outright said the context of the conversation was no restriction abortions up to the point of birth and he said yes and the doctor and the mother should make that decision and then he goes on to explain a circumstance in which the baby is delivered and brought into another room.

01:18:28.000 I'm sorry for interrupting.

01:18:29.000 My headphones cut out.

01:18:30.000 I thought that the clip had ended.

01:18:32.000 Sorry about that.

01:18:32.000 No, this is, I mean, be capable, have the moral fortitude to call people demons.

01:18:39.000 Be capable of calling out demonic, blackened, spiritual activity when you see it.

01:18:45.000 They want to desensitize you.

01:18:47.000 They want you to think that this is normal.

01:18:50.000 This is not normal.

01:18:51.000 This is depraved evil from the pit of hell. 0.63

01:18:55.000 Do have the capacity as a moral person you don't even have to be a christian muslim jew doesn't matter to me as a moral person you should be able to stand up for the life of a small helpless infant who was just born as i have held my little newborn babies in my hand and say you do not deserve to die and someone who is wishing to take your life is a literal demon thank god that man and his party lost in the great so i want to point out the snopes headline

01:19:23.000 Mostly false.

01:19:24.000 He did not state he would execute a baby after birth.

01:19:26.000 Well, that's an opinion statement.

01:19:28.000 If we said that he verbatim said he would execute a baby, that's false.

01:19:32.000 But if I were to say Northam talked about executing babies and said that that's exactly what would happen, that's a true statement. 1.00

01:19:40.000 Snopes is obfuscating this.

01:19:41.000 They say the ambiguity of his remarks about late-term abortions What?

01:19:47.000 She asked, could a woman get an abortion at the point of labor, and he says, well, yeah, you know, it's up to the doctor and the mother to decide.

01:19:53.000 If it's up to the doctor and the mother to decide, he's basically saying that they could choose yes if need be. 0.69

01:19:58.000 So the simple point is, the left immediately goes to, he's talking about deformity and abnormality, and my response was like, you think deformed people should be killed? 0.59

01:20:06.000 Like, that's crazy to me.

01:20:07.000 I don't think so.

01:20:08.000 If the baby's alive, don't kill it.

01:20:10.000 What a great question. 1.00

01:20:11.000 Okay, so should all deformed people be killed? 1.00

01:20:14.000 What about a 21-year-old deformed person? 0.99

01:20:16.000 What does that mean?

01:20:17.000 This is the crazy thing.

01:20:19.000 Me and this guy over here, pro-choice, arguing with a leftist about this stuff and it's the weirdest position to be in.

01:20:25.000 It's because there's no moral position behind their words.

01:20:28.000 They are just regurgitating what they were told, and they're trying to... You know why Snopes lies about this?

01:20:34.000 This is the point I was making.

01:20:35.000 The reason why I want to do these shows, why we had, I believe, Matt Binder, as well as Lance, say there should be no restrictions at all on abortion, even up to the point of birth.

01:20:45.000 Let them say it.

01:20:46.000 Because I'm not here to try and convince them otherwise.

01:20:49.000 I need them to just say to the camera, so then we can show people they actually believe that.

01:20:54.000 You gotta point out where this leads, though.

01:20:56.000 This leads to eugenics. 0.90

01:20:58.000 This is simply eugenics. 0.97

01:21:00.000 They've eugenics-ed out Down syndrome. 0.98

01:21:00.000 Iceland. 0.98

01:21:03.000 That's right.

01:21:04.000 And the third right did the exact same thing.

01:21:07.000 People in the comment sections when you talk about that are crazy.

01:21:11.000 Just like, yeah, of course you should get rid of the people.

01:21:13.000 Like, they actually believe that.

01:21:14.000 Like, the people in the comment sections, anyone on Twitter talking about that, absolutely 150%.

01:21:19.000 I just want to point out that I hate the way that Northam talks.

01:21:22.000 Like the way that he answered that question, it's like this lefty new speak and you should really like listen in.

01:21:26.000 So the first thing he says was, I wasn't there.

01:21:29.000 When the question was, there's a viral video of this woman answering questions. 1.00

01:21:33.000 It's like, who cares if you were there?

01:21:34.000 I wasn't there, but I can see the video.

01:21:36.000 So it's a misdirect all right off the bat.

01:21:38.000 He says consent two or three times because consent is a positive word.

01:21:41.000 Like, are you against consent?

01:21:42.000 What's wrong with you? 0.88

01:21:44.000 And all of that leads up to him own-goaling himself and saying, well, the baby will be delivered, and, you know, we put a blanket around it, and then we'd have a conversation about killing it. 0.98

01:21:53.000 It's the craziest thing possible. 0.84

01:21:55.000 What he said!

01:21:55.000 Yeah, right.

01:21:56.000 It's insane, but he masks it in all this, like, distraction.

01:22:00.000 Here's CBS News from 2017.

01:22:03.000 What is it?

01:22:04.000 Okay, they obfuscate the headline.

01:22:05.000 Inside a country where Down syndrome is disappearing, Iceland is on the verge of eliminating Down syndrome.

01:22:11.000 Okay, now hold on.

01:22:13.000 We don't want people to have Down syndrome, but we don't kill people for having it.

01:22:20.000 The left advocates for the termination of a life if it does have Down syndrome.

01:22:23.000 I do not believe that having what they would describe as Down syndrome, I don't believe any view of that, negative or positive, it's mostly negative, warrants the death or cessation of life.

01:22:37.000 That's insane to me.

01:22:38.000 But the left and Iceland, for instance, they literally argue a goal of abortion is to end the life of someone who has Down syndrome. 0.54

01:22:46.000 To me, that is psychotic.

01:22:48.000 And I'm pro-choice.

01:22:50.000 Traditionally.

01:22:51.000 Not in the current leftist sense, which makes no sense.

01:22:53.000 I think they've gone off the rails.

01:22:56.000 The whole point of him bringing up the part about deformities is because what he's preying on is the idea that you would think that nobody would do it if there weren't deformities, right?

01:23:05.000 Why would somebody do that?

01:23:06.000 Not realizing that most of the time when this stuff is happening, that's not necessarily going to be the situation that's going to come of it.

01:23:12.000 So when they leave that conversation, they don't leave They don't leave that clip, watching that clip, thinking he just advocated for people to be able to abort a child after it's born.

01:23:23.000 What they leave with is him saying, well, he's saying that if somebody's deformed, then why would you?

01:23:28.000 Do you understand what he's saying?

01:23:29.000 He said most of these cases are deformities and other problems, but the question was blank at all, no restrictions.

01:23:35.000 And he did not say he was against it.

01:23:37.000 He said he was in favor of that.

01:23:38.000 He just shifted the narrative.

01:23:40.000 What about when your deformity is wearing a MAGA hat?

01:23:42.000 Or like having a sixth toe.

01:23:44.000 Right.

01:23:44.000 What about when your deformity is that your dad was a conservative?

01:23:47.000 What about that?

01:23:48.000 What about when that's the deformity?

01:23:50.000 Because that's how this always goes.

01:23:51.000 It always goes like that.

01:23:52.000 And that's the way it always goes.

01:23:53.000 The deformity for Margaret Sanger was a race she didn't like.

01:23:57.000 And that is why Planned Parenthood was started with the express intent of getting rid of a racial population that Margaret Sanger didn't like. 0.82

01:24:03.000 And that's why Planned Parenthood was started in the inner cities.

01:24:07.000 These are facts.

01:24:07.000 These are straight facts about Planned Parenthood and where they come from and what they were intended to do.

01:24:11.000 Eugenics. 0.69

01:24:12.000 What's amazing is that if you're in favor of curing Down syndrome, like some kind of medication that would raise their IQ so they no longer have Down syndrome, they would be against you.

01:24:22.000 They call you an ableist. 0.54

01:24:23.000 You're a bigot. 0.75

01:24:24.000 What's wrong with you? 1.00

01:24:25.000 But killing them before they even exist, eliminating them in that way, well, that's woman's body, woman's choice. 1.00

01:24:31.000 What's wrong with you? 1.00

01:24:32.000 Why do you hate women? 0.99

01:24:33.000 So it's wild.

01:24:35.000 If you know, they went after that autism organization because they had Finding a Cure still on their website.

01:24:40.000 Also, I mean, that's very common also in the deaf community because they consider it part of their identity.

01:24:44.000 So a lot of... they don't want the cochlear implant. 1.00

01:24:46.000 They don't want to change it because they've considered it part of who they are, right?

01:24:49.000 So they're saying the same thing about learning disabilities, which is not inherently... But it's one thing for you to not want it, but it's very interesting that they find the idea of curing deafness to be offensive.

01:25:01.000 Yeah.

01:25:02.000 I think it would be great.

01:25:03.000 I'm open to this conversation about designer babies, CRISPR technologies, like genetic technology of things in the womb, babies in the womb, things, but creatures in the womb of any kind.

01:25:13.000 And I think if you could cure blindness or deafness in the womb early on, of course you would do that.

01:25:18.000 I can't imagine why anyone would want not to do that if it was safe.

01:25:23.000 So there's like a zoo in Tampa and there's a small animal that has, there's like a manatee that was born with like a little flipper.

01:25:33.000 Nemo.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, like a Nemo, right?

01:25:36.000 And these manatees are really cute, and it's in Florida, right?

01:25:39.000 So there's this big manatee tank, and you go underwater, and it's cool lighting, and there's neat music, and you watch the manatees eat these giant balls of lettuce.

01:25:48.000 And they just gobble up these lettuce. 0.99

01:25:49.000 How does this huge animal only eat lettuce?

01:25:51.000 Anyway, you see this famous little manatee, only he's got a little flipper. 0.83

01:25:57.000 You're arguing for the killing of that manatee.

01:26:00.000 Like, look, what you're doing as a leftist, is you're saying that you should have seen the manatee's flipper, and as soon as it was born, as a little teeny little ball of goo, a joyous little ball, or a panda, or whoever you happen to be, the pandas in DC, they're very famous, you're taking the panda, who's born, that's a miracle, because it's very hard to breed pandas in captivity, And you're taking that panda, and you're like, ooh, but the panda's black stripe isn't exactly down the middle of its face, so... See ya!

01:26:28.000 And you take it out back.

01:26:29.000 You keep it comfortable while you take it out back.

01:26:32.000 An old yeller, that thing. 0.82

01:26:33.000 That's what you're arguing.

01:26:35.000 You're arguing that these deformities... Apply the deformities to cute little animals.

01:26:39.000 And you see how monstrous.

01:26:41.000 It's the nihilism.

01:26:42.000 Well, I'm actually against the pandas.

01:26:44.000 If we set this whole thing up for you to hook up and you just refuse, then honestly, you kind of don't deserve to continue.

01:26:51.000 I understand tribal hard life, where it is like we are on the move, and if we do not keep moving, our entire tribe will be wiped out.

01:26:59.000 And you're like, your baby is not able to breathe properly.

01:27:02.000 It's not coming with us.

01:27:04.000 I understand where it comes from, but we don't live in that society right now.

01:27:07.000 But still, I still support a woman's right to choose early on in the pregnancy, personally, up to 16 weeks or something when it's still in early development.

01:27:07.000 We don't.

01:27:18.000 That's my personal thing.

01:27:20.000 But I think a lot of times, Down syndrome doesn't show up until later in the pregnancy.

01:27:25.000 So that conversation I was just making is kind of a moot point.

01:27:28.000 Like, I don't know what point does that start to show up in the pregnancy.

01:27:30.000 I don't know either.

01:27:32.000 I want to play this very short clip from Freedom Tunes because we're big fans of Seamus.

01:27:36.000 So, Seamus, we're playing your clip.

01:27:38.000 Let me unmute this and just play this for you.

01:27:40.000 Have no fear!

01:27:48.000 Democrat Man is here!

01:27:51.000 Democrat Man!

01:27:53.000 I knew you would come save me!

01:27:54.000 What seems to be the problem?

01:27:57.000 I'm poor and have a rough family situation.

01:28:00.000 I know just the trick!

01:28:02.000 Oh boy!

01:28:04.000 Where did you go?

01:28:05.000 I traveled back in time 12 years and had your mom get an abortion. 0.85

01:28:10.000 What?

01:28:11.000 YAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!

01:28:12.000 All in a day's work for DEMOCRAT MAAAAN!

01:28:17.000 Oh my god!

01:28:18.000 Or if it's Canada now, you can just choose made.

01:28:21.000 Look at that, perfect.

01:28:23.000 GET THAT CAMERA OUT OF MY FACE! 0.99

01:28:25.000 Ha! 0.89

01:28:26.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:28:27.000 You got paid.

01:28:28.000 Shout out, Seamus.

01:28:29.000 Yep.

01:28:30.000 I thought that was really good.

01:28:31.000 The argument that a child would be poor is not an argument for ending the life of the child.

01:28:35.000 Yes.

01:28:36.000 And it's just, I don't know, I had to play that clip.

01:28:38.000 It's too good.

01:28:39.000 Oh, I looked up.

01:28:39.000 Down syndrome is usually detected between 10 and 13 weeks in the first trimester.

01:28:43.000 And sometimes they're wrong.

01:28:45.000 Sometimes they're wrong.

01:28:46.000 And I've heard really horrible stories from a lot of parents where they were told by their doctors, the child is sickly.

01:28:51.000 It's not going to make it.

01:28:52.000 So you need to get an abortion. 1.00

01:28:53.000 And then they said no.

01:28:54.000 And then they had a normal, healthy kid.

01:28:55.000 What a strange term.

01:28:56.000 So, down syndrome, like it's supposed to up syndrome, like down.

01:29:00.000 Like, is that because it's bad?

01:29:01.000 Down is bad.

01:29:01.000 I think it's named for someone.

01:29:03.000 It's just down.

01:29:04.000 There's no S. I thought it was downs also.

01:29:06.000 It's a down syndrome.

01:29:08.000 So my wife and I had our second child last year and the doctor comes in.

01:29:15.000 This is something that is horrible for every parent.

01:29:18.000 You get all these checkups and you get the ultrasound and they do these very sophisticated ultrasounds.

01:29:23.000 The doctor comes in and goes, I'm really sorry, but you got a problem.

01:29:28.000 You have a, let me see if I can remember this right, an aortic, some type of aortic affibulation where your daughter's heart is not developing correctly.

01:29:40.000 And you'll, worst case scenario, she won't be able to survive when she's born.

01:29:47.000 Best case scenario, we could maybe do, we could maybe do a Open heart surgery when she's born. 1.00

01:29:53.000 And so we'll have the team there and we'll try and we'll make sure that like, you know, we'll have the open heart surgeons there.

01:29:58.000 No promises.

01:29:59.000 That's what they told us.

01:30:01.000 No promises.

01:30:02.000 And that's what the medical experts at this very sophisticated, very good hospital, excellent hospital, private hospital, Catholic hospital told us.

01:30:12.000 And I'm not trying to put them on blast.

01:30:14.000 Because my daughter was born and she was perfect.

01:30:19.000 She was perfect.

01:30:20.000 She was a perfect angel from God.

01:30:22.000 And then we brought her in, she was breathing, her heart rate was perfect, even after every expert told us, we're gonna need to do open heart surgery on your daughter when she's born.

01:30:32.000 We bring her in for her first week checkup to check this specific heartbeat issue where her heart valves weren't developing correctly. 1.00

01:30:40.000 And they're like, it's fixed.

01:30:42.000 It's a miracle.

01:30:44.000 Wow.

01:30:44.000 Your daughter's heart is, the exact words were, perfect.

01:30:51.000 Now I'm not saying that anyone advocated for me to get an abortion.

01:30:53.000 They never pushed us to that.

01:30:55.000 But what if you are young, and what if you didn't know any better, and what if you didn't have the same life that my wife and I have?

01:31:01.000 And you heard that.

01:31:03.000 And, oh man, I'm just going to carry this baby to term and it's not going to have a heart?

01:31:06.000 And won't be able to survive?

01:31:08.000 And then everyone in the media and all of these prominent influencers are like, don't feel guilty.

01:31:12.000 Don't feel guilty.

01:31:14.000 No, no, this is you living your truth.

01:31:16.000 And actually, you are doing the kid a favor.

01:31:18.000 And so my beautiful, bubbly one-year-old named Juliet would not exist today because medical science, which was wrong, which was 100% wrong, or I'm just the recipient of a miracle.

01:31:34.000 The other way is that I'm a recipient of a miracle, and God healed my child.

01:31:40.000 Either way, they were wrong, and I couldn't imagine my life without her.

01:31:46.000 Conservatives need to understand that you're not going to legislate cultural morality.

01:31:51.000 This idea that you can make something illegal is nonsense.

01:31:55.000 Marijuana is illegal.

01:31:56.000 Everybody in the country is smoking it like crazy.

01:31:58.000 So this idea that you would approach the issue of abortion by saying we should just completely ban it outright, I can certainly understand the pro-life argument.

01:32:04.000 Well, you would get rid of a lot of it, sure.

01:32:07.000 You need to focus on mending the culture.

01:32:10.000 I think Ron Paul said it well.

01:32:12.000 I think it was Ron Paul, he said it shouldn't be illegal, it should be unthinkable.

01:32:16.000 If you have a culture that gloats and laughs and mocks and does like, what's that comedian who went on Netflix and said, everyone gets abortions, you get an abortion.

01:32:22.000 Michelle Wolf, I think that's her name.

01:32:24.000 And I think Lena Dunham said that, although she'd never been pregnant, she'd wished she had gotten an abortion or something to that effect.

01:32:29.000 That is a diseased culture. 0.95

01:32:31.000 That is like a culture that is sick and in need of help.

01:32:33.000 So that we get to the point where we say, like, that shouldn't happen.

01:32:37.000 Why is it happening that people are promoting these things that are bad?

01:32:40.000 And then, you know, we say, let's not do those things.

01:32:44.000 We have a movement to de-stigmatize everything, because stigma is considered a dirty word, but stigma is actually valuable, and we should use it more often in specific circumstances.

01:32:53.000 Like, shaming is also a good public tool for bad behavior.

01:32:57.000 Like, we need societal pressure to disincentivize poor behavior, and it goes well beyond this topic, in my opinion.

01:33:03.000 Yeah, I feel like we could take another two hours and talk about the porn industry, and making that an illegal part of it, but it's 9.30, we're probably going to Super Chats pretty soon, I don't want to take us too deep in, but like, Give me your take.

01:33:15.000 Well, like you porn, there's potentially underage people on there and it's not very well.

01:33:15.000 What do you mean?

01:33:20.000 And it's like you somewhat like even I think Emma on the show was saying that it should be a legal for nine or 10 year old step.

01:33:27.000 I'm not putting words in your mouth, Emma, but that, uh, to have access to, to be able to see pornography, like you were, you were purchasing a book in the library.

01:33:27.000 I wasn't there and I didn't see a show.

01:33:34.000 I specifically showed genderqueer.

01:33:37.000 And then she, I, she, she didn't give like a good direct answer because they, you can't But she said that I was in favor of censorship when I argued that children shouldn't have access to books that depict kink and porn, and I said, yes I am. 0.97

01:33:50.000 And she goes, so you support censorship?

01:33:51.000 I was like, of course I do!

01:33:52.000 I was like, first of all, if you watched this show, if you watched my show at any point, you'd know that we actually praise censorship All the time!

01:33:58.000 And we talk about how some things... I was like, so do you want Playboy for kids in schools?

01:34:03.000 Do you want Hustler?

01:34:04.000 Like, what's the line? 0.99

01:34:05.000 This book is teaching children about having kink sex with an autoandrophile. 1.00

01:34:12.000 Children should not be reading that. 0.94

01:34:13.000 And she actually said that she defended the teacher who gave instruction on using Grindr to ten-year-olds.

01:34:20.000 She said it was a good book.

01:34:22.000 Right, she said, this book is called This Book is Gay, and she said it was a good book. 0.97

01:34:25.000 And I'm like, kids should not be learning how to go on Grindr to have sex with adults.

01:34:29.000 We need a revolution in sexual education in our current society because of the way pornography has proliferated for nine-year-olds to gain access to on the internet if their parents aren't watching, or if they go to school and a kid has a cell phone.

01:34:42.000 And I don't know if Making it illegal, like you're saying, if we can legislate it away.

01:34:47.000 I mean, you can take YouPorn down and that will reduce the amount of it, but it doesn't mean that it's not gonna... People will still share things on their phones.

01:34:56.000 Kids will still share pictures of even themselves, which is still illegal.

01:35:01.000 But if they were to, when they went after Pornhub, it eliminated a good portion of their content because they did not verify the ages of a lot of the girls.

01:35:10.000 I don't think that we should... Let me put it this way.

01:35:13.000 When the internet first emerged, nobody cared because it was small.

01:35:16.000 And they were like, eh, nobody uses it.

01:35:18.000 There's those famous videos where the newscasters are like, this internet thing's not taking off.

01:35:23.000 And then someone was explaining how you could buy a movie ticket, and he goes, what's the point?

01:35:27.000 I can walk down there and hand them cash.

01:35:28.000 You're wasting my time.

01:35:29.000 This is never going to take off.

01:35:30.000 And then, of course, the internet is everything now.

01:35:32.000 We need to recognize that We're no longer talking about someone walking in a dark alley with a dirty magazine, and those things sometimes happen.

01:35:40.000 We're talking about someone buying a billboard in Times Square of Goatsy or something like that.

01:35:44.000 And any kid can just stumble upon it and go, ah!

01:35:47.000 And we probably need to say, yeah, you can't do that.

01:35:50.000 But I gotta say, we have become, in many ways, it's anarcho-tyrannic.

01:35:57.000 We've become authoritarian in a bunch of ways and horrifying libertarian in very, very bad ways.

01:36:02.000 So we need a cohesive culture that permits liberties in some areas and restricts things in other areas.

01:36:10.000 We have it backwards right now.

01:36:11.000 We open internet access to insane, psychotic porn where kids are getting access to it.

01:36:16.000 It shouldn't be able to happen.

01:36:18.000 But we're just like, well, it's free speech, it's legal, you can show all of it.

01:36:21.000 And then it's like, okay, there's a moral question about the limits here.

01:36:25.000 You might say, don't tread on me or whatever, and my argument is, you're literally allowing people to sell graphic images to kids, and we need a way to deal with that.

01:36:34.000 There are serious challenges.

01:36:35.000 When we saw the CISA and... Do you remember these?

01:36:39.000 CISA and... CISPA.

01:36:40.000 Yes, I do remember these.

01:36:41.000 CISPA, CISA, whatever.

01:36:42.000 They were under the guise of child protection, we're gonna try and censor free speech on the internet.

01:36:47.000 So figuring that out is very, very, very difficult.

01:36:50.000 But I don't accept Sisa. 0.98

01:36:52.000 Sisa? 0.74

01:36:53.000 That we're in this era where everyone just knows and accepts that a ten-year-old kid with their phone is gonna see... Do you want to talk about dark stuff?

01:37:04.000 They can get access on their phone to videos of murders happening, of like snuff films.

01:37:09.000 Yo, when I was a kid, back in my day, I'll tell you what...

01:37:13.000 These are things of VHS legend.

01:37:16.000 It was like, faces of death.

01:37:19.000 Now if a kid, a little kid wants to watch someone die, they just Google it.

01:37:24.000 But for us, it was like, dude, John's got faces of death.

01:37:27.000 No way.

01:37:28.000 And you might, might get to see it.

01:37:30.000 I never actually saw it.

01:37:30.000 Maybe.

01:37:31.000 I only heard about my friends who one time saw it at this one place.

01:37:35.000 You'd go to the video store, and they would have a room with a curtain where it's like, you gotta be 18 to go in that room.

01:37:40.000 Kids could not go in that room, so you couldn't see these things.

01:37:43.000 I was just, the other day, I was on, I was looking on Twitter, and it was the video of the rapper dying on stage, and I'm just like, uh, he, they're saying it's like, people are like, the conspiracy is that it was from vaccine injury, right?

01:37:54.000 But like, rappers just on stage have, like, I don't know if it's a heart attack, just keels over and dies, and I'm just like... Was it a big show?

01:38:01.000 It was like, I don't remember his name, but it was like a Houston rapper.

01:38:05.000 And yeah, just, it's like a 45 second clip.

01:38:07.000 You see him, like he's performing, he kind of stops, he hesitates, and then he just keels over and dies.

01:38:13.000 Probably a hard time.

01:38:14.000 The founding fathers of the United States were dudes.

01:38:17.000 Like these guys were legit, as far as I can tell.

01:38:19.000 Even if evil wins, they will tell you they were the good guys, but I think they were pretty good.

01:38:22.000 The constitution stands for itself.

01:38:24.000 What would they have done with this internet?

01:38:26.000 He was a big dude.

01:38:27.000 Yeah, he's a big dude.

01:38:29.000 Soup, he's not like morbidly obese, he's obese.

01:38:32.000 But you watch the video and you see him, his body just kind of tenses up and he looks like he's like, he stops and then he just keels over.

01:38:39.000 Like, I'm legitimately asking.

01:38:42.000 They deleted on my Twitter account the video of the immigrant stabbing people in France.

01:38:47.000 I think they deleted that Twitter video.

01:38:50.000 Do you agree with that?

01:38:51.000 That's tough because Twitter is not a space for children.

01:38:55.000 It is a news reel.

01:38:58.000 So I think a sensitivity filter with an age restriction probably would be the appropriate way to deal with it.

01:39:04.000 But Twitter was probably reacting to fears of advertisers and negative press.

01:39:07.000 It's simple.

01:39:08.000 Put a sensitive filter on it.

01:39:10.000 Make it so that not only do you have to be signed in to see it, you've got to press a filter button and enter your age, so it's triple layered.

01:39:16.000 And then it keeps the newsworthiness available for people.

01:39:18.000 You make it so ads will never appear next to it, and kids shouldn't be able to get access to it, assuming they're logged in and appropriate age.

01:39:24.000 We do got to go super chats, though.

01:39:26.000 But there's a difficult question there.

01:39:28.000 Alright, I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, our socialist healthcare isn't great.

01:39:31.000 Here in Alberta, a woman who needs an organ is being left to die because she won't get the COVID jab. 1.00

01:39:36.000 Even our federal courts have refused to hear the case.

01:39:39.000 Wow.

01:39:40.000 He goes on to say, congrats to Benny for the 1 million subs.

01:39:43.000 Finally, I hope people still hear what happens here in Canada once Bill C-11 comes into effect.

01:39:48.000 We'll find out soon.

01:39:49.000 I guess we'll welcome Chinada. 0.96

01:39:52.000 Congratulations on a million!

01:39:53.000 Was that, you just hit a million, or?

01:39:55.000 This week, yes.

01:39:56.000 Oh wow, fantastic.

01:39:57.000 Benny Johnson show.

01:39:58.000 On YouTube or on Twitter?

01:39:59.000 On YouTube.

01:40:00.000 Nice, dude!

01:40:00.000 Yeah, at Benny Johnson.

01:40:01.000 They're gonna send you the gold plaque?

01:40:03.000 Is that what it is?

01:40:03.000 We have many gold awards.

01:40:06.000 We use one to prop the window open.

01:40:09.000 Shout out to YouTube.

01:40:10.000 You know, look, YouTube's been, YouTube demonetized, we should have talked about this, YouTube

01:40:15.000 demonetized Luke.

01:40:16.000 Yeah, Luke, we brought it up a couple days ago.

01:40:18.000 And it's, it's, it's, and Glenn Greenwald's tweeting about it, Elon responded to it.

01:40:22.000 YouTube, unquestionably, is interfering in the election for the benefit of the Democratic

01:40:29.000 Hands down.

01:40:30.000 Luke Rutkowski has been on the show all the time, and he talks on his show about the exact same thing he talks about when he's on this show.

01:40:36.000 Well, he might get a little spicier in some areas and talk more on foreign policy. 0.97

01:40:40.000 And they claimed reused content, which is a false demonetization.

01:40:44.000 Luke does very similar videos to me where he shows articles and comments on the news and they claimed it was reused content.

01:40:50.000 Reused content is for when you take someone else's video and post it to your channel without doing anything with it.

01:40:55.000 So here's the thing that got Luke.

01:40:59.000 And I DM'd him.

01:41:00.000 I said, Luke, hit me up, dude.

01:41:02.000 I know exactly what happened to you because it happened to my channel.

01:41:04.000 When you're doing shorts, which YouTube is pushing and pushing a lot of eyeballs to shorts, you need to be in those shorts and you need to be commenting on them.

01:41:14.000 So you're saying Luke was posting full minutes of other people's videos?

01:41:18.000 Luke was posting clips and that hit my channel too.

01:41:22.000 About a year ago.

01:41:23.000 Without him in it.

01:41:24.000 So you need his face in the corner or something while it's happening?

01:41:26.000 So you need to comment on it, right?

01:41:28.000 Dude, you gotta see this photo of this kid in California.

01:41:31.000 You can't believe he did this at a BLM rally.

01:41:33.000 You show the clip and then you're like, dude, that's...

01:41:36.000 That's crazy.

01:41:37.000 That's what Jeremy Corring does.

01:41:38.000 And you react, right, to this.

01:41:41.000 YouTube needs you to be in, the creator needs to be in the content.

01:41:45.000 So for YouTube Shorts, Luke was doing that?

01:41:47.000 For YouTube Shorts, this happened to my channel.

01:41:49.000 So YouTube Shorts is a relatively new product, you just upload a clip, Joe Biden falls down the stairs, you just slap in the clip in there, you just send it out.

01:41:58.000 I wanted to talk with Luke, I'm like, dude, this is what, this is what it is.

01:42:02.000 You need to, you can't just upload any clip to Shorts.

01:42:05.000 You got to be a part of that clip.

01:42:06.000 Then I will say, stand corrected, apologize to YouTube in that regard, and then criticize YouTube for taking down the video with RFK Jr.

01:42:12.000 and Jordan Peterson, which is a contending presidential candidate having his opinions taken down with massive approval in the polls.

01:42:19.000 That right there is interference.

01:42:20.000 I'm just trying to be a dude and say, Luke, this is how you fix that issue of the demonetization and the unoriginal content, because I have it on my channel.

01:42:30.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:42:33.000 Akinsu Ocha says, glad to have you back.

01:42:35.000 Just like all leftists, that woman was hard to listen to because she kept putting words in everyone's mouth and wouldn't let others talk, but it needs to be done to further the conversation and respect it. 1.00

01:42:43.000 Well, look, I appreciate her coming on.

01:42:44.000 I know the Majority Report people really do want to come on this show.

01:42:48.000 Out of all the people we invite, they're the ones who are begging to come on the show.

01:42:52.000 Emma hit us up and we were like, absolutely, we'll have you on.

01:42:54.000 But I do want to point out my favorite moment in the show was when she asked me what I liked about DeSantis' policy, and then I started talking about COVID restrictions and leadership, and then she interrupted me and said, no policy.

01:43:06.000 And then I said, okay, well, the culture war stuff obviously matter a lot.

01:43:09.000 And then when I brought up specifically, she goes, no, what is he doing now?

01:43:13.000 And I'm like, okay, well, removing these books.

01:43:15.000 She goes, I don't want to hear about anecdotes.

01:43:17.000 I want to talk about the bigger picture.

01:43:18.000 And I'm like, you literally asked me for a specific example.

01:43:21.000 I gave you one and you got mad at me for it.

01:43:23.000 So it was like, what I think happened was, I believe that she was given talking points before the show,

01:43:30.000 likely by Sam or someone else at the majority report.

01:43:32.000 And she had a list of things.

01:43:34.000 It was Sam Cedar all along!

01:43:36.000 Sam!

01:43:37.000 And so the issue is, if she's told to say something, And then I respond.

01:43:42.000 She won't know how to respond to it because she only has one canned question and no canned responses.

01:43:46.000 I gotta watch the interview.

01:43:48.000 It's building up.

01:43:49.000 I've only seen like 15 minutes of it so far, so I'm excited to watch this.

01:43:53.000 Saying like, what do you support about DeSantis?

01:43:55.000 And my response is, does he even have a presidential campaign?

01:43:58.000 I don't know what he's running on and I'm not for the guy.

01:44:01.000 Why are you asking me this?

01:44:03.000 But I assure you they'll edit all of these things to be like, here are gotchas that don't make sense.

01:44:07.000 I saw a lot of it on Twitter so far.

01:44:09.000 Tim, are you being triggered right now?

01:44:11.000 I've lowered my voice after I've aggravated you.

01:44:13.000 Oh, there's a term for that in psychology, where you get the other person upset, and then you're like, you're so upset, what's wrong with you?

01:44:19.000 I call it NPR voicing, where they go to the NPR voice.

01:44:23.000 Clip farming, right?

01:44:24.000 It's funny, I was watching a clip with Joe Rogan, I was watching the Joe Rogan podcast, and then he goes, one guy asked him a question, I can't remember the question, he goes, what are you doing?

01:44:32.000 Are you trying to make a viral clip right now?

01:44:34.000 He's like, yes, yes.

01:44:35.000 Now, his friend probably wasn't doing that. 0.98

01:44:37.000 I think Joe was being silly.

01:44:39.000 But this is literally why we don't have these people on the show, because they intentionally come on, will say something shocking, provocative, or nonsensical, so they can get a drama clip to make money.

01:44:50.000 Let me just stress, The Majority Report has like 170 clips about Dave Rubin.

01:44:56.000 Okay, Dave Rubin has his own channel and he talks, but he is like, look, We have a bunch of clips about Biden and Hunter and Trump.

01:45:05.000 David Pakman has a bunch of clips about these people.

01:45:07.000 Okay, I get it.

01:45:08.000 We're talking politics here.

01:45:09.000 We're going to talk about world leaders.

01:45:10.000 But Dave Rubin?

01:45:12.000 Why are you making clips about Dave Rubin?

01:45:13.000 Why are you making clips about me?

01:45:14.000 World leaders, baby.

01:45:16.000 It's not.

01:45:16.000 It's because it gets rage-baited.

01:45:18.000 It's e-drama.

01:45:19.000 It's internet blood sports.

01:45:21.000 So this is why I'm like, I normally don't invite people like this in the show.

01:45:25.000 Because I know that all they're going to do is come on, and they're going to say things with the intent to get a viral clip.

01:45:29.000 Well, know that that's going to happen.

01:45:30.000 It's called reactive abuse in psychology.

01:45:32.000 So if someone does try to trigger you or work you up in a conversation, stay calm.

01:45:36.000 Oh yeah!

01:45:36.000 I have an answer for that!

01:45:37.000 the thing where she got where she was like I'm sorry I triggered you was

01:45:41.000 because she did the she literally said why do you think your show appeals to

01:45:46.000 neo-nazis?

01:45:47.000 Oh yeah I have an answer for that because I think people that might be

01:45:50.000 radicalized into becoming a neo-nazi in their lifetime will see shows like this

01:45:54.000 and become de-radicalized. But the point is the show doesn't.

01:45:59.000 In fact, we get threats from neo-Nazis, and even staunch conservatives are very critical of us.

01:46:05.000 The goal of it was to get a viral clip on the internet that didn't matter what I said to her, it didn't matter if I responded at all. 0.97

01:46:13.000 All that matters is they get a clip of her saying it, splice it together with something else, and then make a fake segment for their show, because that's what their show is, drama grifting garbage.

01:46:20.000 And how aggravated you got when she accused you, by the way, of inspiring a violent terror attack, which you should be angry about, like, when somebody tries to put that on you.

01:46:28.000 My point is, it didn't matter if I got aggravated or said nothing at all.

01:46:32.000 No matter what I did, they would take that clip and then splice it with something else.

01:46:37.000 And so, we then bring up the point, there was one guy who was posting stuff who had watched the Majority Report.

01:46:44.000 You've mentioned the guy Gavin Long, who said he was inspired by the Young Turks.

01:46:47.000 And then she just was like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

01:46:50.000 And she didn't respond to it because the goal... Here's my assumption.

01:46:54.000 Sam said, specifically ask this question.

01:46:57.000 It doesn't matter what they say afterwards. 1.00

01:46:59.000 We need this clip for our show because it'll trick a bunch of morons into watching." 1.00

01:47:03.000 Right? 1.00

01:47:03.000 I don't think he said that specifically. 1.00

01:47:04.000 That's what his intent is.

01:47:05.000 So afterwards, when Sean then brings up a legitimate point of, how could you say that when you have, say, The Young Turks, where you used to work, was the actual inspiration for a guy who claimed it was, and she goes, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, she didn't respond in any capacity because it wouldn't do anything for their clip.

01:47:22.000 She said the thing, it's on camera, they can make the clip, anything after that is pointless.

01:47:28.000 So now it's like, she's just literally like, I'm done with the conversation, I came here, I got what I came for. 0.99

01:47:35.000 It's grifting garbage. 0.74

01:47:36.000 I even said that, I was like, this is why people, you know Sam Cedar's blacklisted from a whole bunch of shows. 0.98

01:47:40.000 Sam Cedar, baby!

01:47:42.000 He's blacklisted, he knows he is, and I loved that she goes, it's because they're scared of him. 0.98

01:47:47.000 Shut up, it's because they loathe him.

01:47:48.000 Destiny did say if there was any liberal or anyone on the left he was afraid to debate, it would be Sam Seder. 0.99

01:47:54.000 Sam is notoriously, he's a brilliant man.

01:47:56.000 Whether or not you like him personally is almost irrelevant in that capacity.

01:47:59.000 I think it's just E-drama nonsense.

01:48:02.000 And then he makes videos about Dave Rubin and me and other YouTubers because it's just, you've got people on YouTube and you want to get clicks, so you target the community that they're a part of, which is YouTube.

01:48:15.000 So we're a podcast.

01:48:16.000 We're on all different podcast platforms.

01:48:18.000 She made comments about how they can't get the corporate investors like we do.

01:48:23.000 And I'm like, what?

01:48:24.000 We don't have any corporate investors.

01:48:25.000 She goes, we can't get sponsors like you do.

01:48:27.000 And I'm like, what?

01:48:28.000 We currently have no sponsors on the podcast.

01:48:30.000 I think we have like four.

01:48:31.000 What are you talking about?

01:48:34.000 They're saying things that are plum not true because they're lying to their audience and their audience just believes it. 0.99

01:48:40.000 It's just, it's low tier internet drama garbage.

01:48:44.000 I like to extricate that from people's careers and kind of refine the process to have more elucidated educational conversation.

01:48:54.000 T-Rex Pet Shop says, when Emma accused you and asked why Nazis watch your show, to clarify the context, it was a guy who posted four screenshots.

01:49:04.000 Was it screenshots?

01:49:05.000 Screenshots from like the YouTube app of the same video.

01:49:08.000 Of the same video, and it shows that he wasn't subscribed to the channel.

01:49:11.000 And then she said he posted clips from the show.

01:49:13.000 I said, no, he didn't.

01:49:14.000 It was screenshots.

01:49:16.000 So she didn't even know what she was talking about.

01:49:18.000 It was actually two because they're like the same timecode, more or less like a second off.

01:49:22.000 So it's like something I do when I'm looking, when I see something and I want to respond to it, screenshot the app and like you save that timecode so you can go back and revisit it.

01:49:29.000 What if the Nazis could have won World War II by taking pictures of Americans and putting them on their walls at home? 0.63

01:49:36.000 T-Rex says, when Emma accused you and asked why Nazis watch your show in the culture war, all her future arguments weren't taken seriously in my mind. 0.99

01:49:49.000 That was the stupidest argument ever. 0.99

01:49:51.000 Her reputation is now ruined. 1.00

01:49:53.000 Support Anti-Woke Pro Freedom T-Rex Pet Shop.

01:49:55.000 The point is, she did not come here to have a real conversation.

01:49:59.000 In fact, before the show started, I said, is there a subject you guys would like to start with?

01:50:03.000 And she says, I'm fine to talk about whatever.

01:50:04.000 And then I said, I was under the impression that Sean and Emma, you guys want to talk about crime.

01:50:08.000 We can talk about Jordan Williams, I believe his name is.

01:50:11.000 And then Sean said yes, and then Emma said yes.

01:50:14.000 And then as soon as we started the show, she immediately started talking about Sam and music videos and just the personal social stuff.

01:50:19.000 The compound.

01:50:20.000 Like, I'm in your compound, so you have money.

01:50:22.000 She was like, I am here in your compound, you have money.

01:50:24.000 I'm like, yeah, it's all members.

01:50:27.000 We got rid of all our sponsors, we only had four.

01:50:29.000 Now we only have on the podcast side of things like four or five.

01:50:32.000 And all of the revenue is basically programmatic, but primarily members.

01:50:36.000 And then she said something about us having Rumble money or something?

01:50:39.000 She was disappointed she didn't see the skate park.

01:50:40.000 It was like Rumble has investors or something like that, therefore you have Rumble investors?

01:50:46.000 Like Rumble gave me an award for having subscribers just like YouTube did.

01:50:50.000 The other funny thing they like to do is they have to.

01:50:53.000 They have to.

01:50:54.000 Claim that tons of people live here.

01:50:55.000 They don't.

01:50:56.000 This is an office with a skate park in it.

01:50:58.000 And try to make it seem like it's creepy and culty.

01:51:02.000 Or I guess Sam was implying we have children here or something like that in the basement.

01:51:07.000 Oh my god, what?

01:51:08.000 I don't know exactly what he said.

01:51:09.000 Are you keeping them comfortable?

01:51:11.000 Saying something like, who are these kids he's bringing to come skate?

01:51:14.000 How old are they?

01:51:15.000 But I don't watch it, this is just what I was told.

01:51:18.000 But they have to do it because the reality of it is, we have a building that has one, two, Let's see.

01:51:28.000 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 floors.

01:51:33.000 So there's a basement and a sub-basement.

01:51:35.000 Sub-basement has a skate park in it.

01:51:36.000 And then there's 3 above-ground floors.

01:51:40.000 And actually split into 2 different above-ground sections.

01:51:44.000 And on 10 acres, plus the construction of Freedom Sand.

01:51:48.000 If you were to go to someone and they say, where do you work?

01:51:49.000 It's like, I work at a recording studio.

01:51:51.000 It's got a music studio.

01:51:52.000 It's got two podcast studios.

01:51:53.000 We have rock stars coming and going, presidential candidates, and there's two skate parks inside.

01:51:57.000 People are gonna be like, that sounds like the best workplace ever.

01:52:00.000 Yeah, there's a bunch of food there.

01:52:02.000 There's booze.

01:52:03.000 You know, within reason people drink when we know when they feel like it.

01:52:07.000 You can hang out downstairs and play pool or just go to the skate park.

01:52:10.000 Skate park outside, fresh fruit all over the trees.

01:52:12.000 There's a sauna on the premises as well.

01:52:14.000 And there was a hot tub for a minute.

01:52:16.000 That, they have to tarnish.

01:52:19.000 Because it's like, uh-oh.

01:52:21.000 We can't let people think that something cool is actually possible or happening here.

01:52:25.000 So then they try and do things where they say on these shows that like, it's a bunch of guys living in a weird house.

01:52:29.000 What a creepy cult.

01:52:30.000 It's like, that's not true at all.

01:52:32.000 No, it's a company.

01:52:33.000 If there was no company, and you were just like, hey guys, come hang out at my house, then it would be a weird cult.

01:52:37.000 But it's like a company where people... Except...

01:52:40.000 Skateboarders literally do that.

01:52:42.000 Famously, I think eMerica had the skate mansion where all their pros and ams lived in one big house in California. 0.76

01:52:49.000 Like, that's literally what they did.

01:52:51.000 Razors used to have that in skating as well. 1.00

01:52:53.000 Yeah, it's a good thing that these companies do, but we should definitely remorse for what you did.

01:52:56.000 But real quick, even if it were true that you had all the people living here, which I've looked around, I didn't find anybody hidden in the basement while you weren't looking, but Their content creator houses are so normal in other non-political realms.

01:53:09.000 They never criticize those as far as I know.

01:53:11.000 Content houses are very normal.

01:53:12.000 That's an actual thing in a business model.

01:53:15.000 That's the point.

01:53:15.000 Hype house.

01:53:16.000 Half of TikTok is hype houses.

01:53:19.000 I'll tell you another thing they did.

01:53:21.000 We were skating at Freedom Plaza in DC, and they got really really angry because they couldn't muster up any kind of cultural defense.

01:53:29.000 I said, we're all gonna go skate in DC, everyone show up, and they started issuing threats.

01:53:35.000 They started calling companies, threatening them if they dared associate with me in any way.

01:53:38.000 It didn't work.

01:53:39.000 Tons of people showed up.

01:53:41.000 But I'm skating in Uh, uh, uh, the Freedom Plaza.

01:53:45.000 And someone goes online, on a skate forum, a prominent one, and says, Tim Pool was there, and he couldn't do a pop shove it.

01:53:51.000 Pop shove it is a very, very basic trick that children do.

01:53:55.000 Why would they lie about that?

01:53:57.000 Because if they went out and said, Tim Pool rolled up and did a nollie 540 bigspin first try, and he did a switch hardflip lateflip, you know, most of you have no idea what I'm saying, but skateboarders would be like, damn, I didn't know Tim was that good at skateboarding, and then all of a sudden it's like, uh-oh, we can't let this guy have cultural influence.

01:54:15.000 So I will shout out the Barracks, the most prominent skate brand in the world, posted a clip of me doing a one foot nollie 360.

01:54:24.000 So my point is this, they're very, very terrified of our cultural endeavors to the point where they're desperately trying to make it seem bad.

01:54:32.000 That's why the majority report played our song in such a way, I'll describe, that made it sound really, really bad and then said it sounded really bad.

01:54:40.000 And then she comes on the show and she's like, we don't have the technology to do that.

01:54:43.000 I'm like, you literally did it. 0.91

01:54:45.000 You played it through like some speaker so it sounded like garbage and then said the music was garbage and look how bad it sounds to trick your audience. 0.97

01:54:50.000 Is what they do.

01:54:52.000 Anyway, we should read superchats instead of me just ranting.

01:54:57.000 Where we go?

01:54:58.000 Uh-oh.

01:55:00.000 I'm gonna have to read a lot more about it.

01:55:02.000 David Toronto says, Sean Strickland needs to train Elon.

01:55:05.000 Get him on the show, by the way.

01:55:06.000 The after show would be phenomenal.

01:55:07.000 I'm 6'3", 33 waist, not huge at all, and I weigh 200.

01:55:09.000 at all and I weigh 200, Elon is at least 230. Agreed.

01:55:09.000 Elon is at least 230.

01:55:09.000 Agreed.

01:55:13.000 Yeah, it says 198 on his profile. Fake news.

01:55:18.000 6-2, 198.

01:55:20.000 Legometha Gayen says that, I'm going to paraphrase because I think there's a bit too much invective, but I do want to appreciate your super chat and read it.

01:55:28.000 He said that seeing Emma Vigeland mouth off at Sean about crime was sad.

01:55:34.000 He said a lot more than that.

01:55:36.000 He said it was like seeing a disoriented baby fur seal arrogantly charged into the swinging arc club wielded by a barely disgruntled drunken Canadian fur trapper.

01:55:45.000 Who hasn't had the comfort of a woman or a hot meal in a year.

01:55:48.000 Okay, so I read it anyway.

01:55:49.000 Because it was good, but, you know, a little too much invective.

01:55:51.000 That's a good one.

01:55:54.000 Write a screenplay!

01:55:58.000 The thing that's really interesting about these conversations with leftists is they never know what my political positions actually are.

01:56:04.000 It's amazing. Right. And so they're like right wing shows like this. The funny thing was in the beginning

01:56:09.000 She claimed this show had appealed to neo-nazis, but then later claimed that you were too right wing for our audience

01:56:14.000 Yeah, your moderate audience our moderate audience and she claimed that the reason I say that we have a

01:56:18.000 moderate audience is to try and trick people and I'm like The people who are listening who view themselves as moderates

01:56:23.000 are being tricked into thinking everyone else is my What is their argument?

01:56:28.000 I just don't get this.

01:56:29.000 They're so scared.

01:56:30.000 They're so scared that we're creating culture because culture is intrinsically edgy, artistic, something that pushes the limits.

01:56:38.000 And they are now the establishment.

01:56:40.000 They are the ones shilling for forever war.

01:56:42.000 They're the ones shilling for the justice department and the super state and the police state.

01:56:46.000 They are the establishment.

01:56:47.000 And we are actually the punk rockers.

01:56:49.000 And they can't believe that we're the ones now running Rolling Stone.

01:56:52.000 But there's a belief that it's a competition, like if Tim Cass wins, Majority Report loses, or vice versa, but the reality is we lift each other up.

01:57:00.000 These conversations, Emma coming on this show earlier, being here, we're all gaining from this.

01:57:05.000 Oh yeah, this isn't Twitch.

01:57:06.000 Like, we're actually not competitors, like, because we're both on YouTube.

01:57:09.000 But, like, Twitch, you have to stream and all that.

01:57:11.000 But, like, uh, we can grow in our own separate areas and have crossover because, you know, people can always come back and watch the content.

01:57:19.000 All right.

01:57:20.000 Roma Nation says, Tim and Benny, you are two- you two are the reason why I've started the Roma Rise of Middle America cast.

01:57:25.000 You are an inspiration to truth and look forward to chatting with you two soon.

01:57:28.000 Right on, man.

01:57:29.000 Appreciate the super chat.

01:57:30.000 Best of luck.

01:57:30.000 Based, dude.

01:57:31.000 Based.

01:57:31.000 This is a podcast?

01:57:33.000 I will sub.

01:57:35.000 Is it a YouTube channel or a podcast?

01:57:37.000 Uh, it just says RomaCast.

01:57:39.000 RomaCast.

01:57:39.000 R-O-M-A.

01:57:40.000 Okay.

01:57:41.000 Uh, let's see.

01:57:42.000 Page is RomaNation.

01:57:43.000 Jason Hutchison says, Tim, you're explaining the Dunning-Kruger effect. 1.00

01:57:46.000 Yes, that's right, when people are too stupid to know they're stupid. 1.00

01:57:48.000 Yep. 1.00

01:57:48.000 That page is RomaNation, by the way. 1.00

01:57:50.000 RomaNation? 0.83

01:57:51.000 RomaNation.

01:57:52.000 Yep.

01:57:53.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:57:53.000 says, Emma kept trying to do gotcha clips for her show.

01:57:56.000 Not trying, she literally was.

01:57:58.000 It doesn't matter if she actually gets us or not, or me particularly, what matters is they're gonna edit it anyway.

01:58:03.000 Like, look, we put out a song, and you don't have to like it.

01:58:07.000 There's a lot of songs that come out all the time by a lot of people, and most people don't like any of those songs.

01:58:11.000 Taylor Swift may be the most popular musician in the world, but out of 7 billion people, I'd imagine 95% of people don't like her music.

01:58:18.000 And that's okay.

01:58:19.000 You make things for the people who like the things.

01:58:21.000 So we made a song.

01:58:22.000 And then they played it on their show, in such a way that it sounded really awful, through some kind of filter, and then told their audience, it sounds awful, look how awful it sounds, it sounds like Nickelback.

01:58:33.000 Which it literally does not.

01:58:35.000 Because... And that's a really good example of the culture war, too.

01:58:39.000 Saying that our music sounds like Nickelback, it's because, as I think you were mentioning, Benny, programmable people.

01:58:44.000 Nickelback is a buzzword for uncool and, you know, it's a meme.

01:58:49.000 Like Creed.

01:58:50.000 Yeah, it's like... Both great bands, by the way.

01:58:52.000 You're not allowed to like Nickelback.

01:58:53.000 Nope.

01:58:53.000 That's basically it.

01:58:54.000 If you're on the left and you like Nickelback, they're gonna laugh at you, which is ridiculous.

01:58:57.000 I think Nickelback had the best cover of Devil Went Down to Georgia ever, though I'm not really a big fan of their music.

01:59:01.000 What's the one to the bottom of every bottle?

01:59:03.000 To the bottom of every bottle!

01:59:05.000 That was a billboard number one for like six weeks.

01:59:07.000 But that was the point.

01:59:08.000 Even though our music sounds literally Look at this photograph!

01:59:13.000 That's a bank bill.

01:59:15.000 A pre-Federal Reserve bank bill.

01:59:18.000 Look at this bank bill! 1.00

01:59:20.000 The Federal Reserve sucks! 0.99

01:59:24.000 We'll grab a couple more Super Chats here. 0.99

01:59:25.000 Is Nickelback based?

01:59:27.000 I don't know, but man, when you sing How You Remind Me, and you sing it like he's singing it, and you start to feel it, it is based.

01:59:36.000 He might have had an alcohol problem at the time.

01:59:38.000 Eliyuna says, totally disagree Tim.

01:59:40.000 Your goal for Culture War shouldn't be to get the sound clip of talking about them showing kids graphic images.

01:59:47.000 The win is two hours exposing her total cognitive dissonance. 0.68

01:59:50.000 Great job today. I appreciate it.

01:59:53.000 I think Destiny's fantastic.

01:59:55.000 You guys know Destiny?

01:59:56.000 Yes.

01:59:58.000 We've had him on several times.

01:59:59.000 We have real conversations.

02:00:01.000 We have disagreements on morality, political structures.

02:00:05.000 But I know that when he comes, he'll actually listen to the words coming out of my mouth.

02:00:09.000 And then we'll end up by saying like, that's a good point, but I still disagree.

02:00:12.000 And he'll say, okay, the same is true for conservatives.

02:00:16.000 I also watched a clip of Destiny just mouthing off at someone that was the funniest stuff.

02:00:20.000 I think he's great.

02:00:22.000 I disagree with him a lot.

02:00:23.000 I think most people who watch our show might probably disagree with him a lot but probably actually like him a lot too.

02:00:29.000 That to me is a real conversation.

02:00:32.000 That's the conversation I want to have.

02:00:34.000 I would like to have Destiny be like, here's my position on surrogacy, and then sit down with a conservative who opposes it, and then we'll actually have a real discussion on the issues.

02:00:42.000 We do that all the time with libertarians and conservatives, but it's so hard to find liberals.

02:00:45.000 Yes.

02:00:45.000 Because they don't actually have positions.

02:00:47.000 The Krasensteins come on here, right?

02:00:49.000 They came on once.

02:00:50.000 The Krasensteins come on here.

02:00:51.000 I thought that was great.

02:00:52.000 Yeah, I thought so too.

02:00:54.000 I interact with them a lot on Twitter, and... Getting banned fixed them.

02:00:59.000 Like, it helped them understand, I should say.

02:01:01.000 Saying fixed them is rude, I apologize for that.

02:01:05.000 I think that they understood, finally, when they were wrongly banned, what was going on, and then came out of it like, maybe we should have paid attention a little bit because that was an unjust banning.

02:01:17.000 And now, I disagree with them a lot in their positions, but it genuinely seems like they'll actually engage with you in an honest way.

02:01:23.000 So I believe that the beginning of everyone's journey to actual real knowledge politically is being able to criticize your own side.

02:01:31.000 That's how you can tell if you are talking with a cult member or somebody who's actually a rational human being who's on their way to namaste, right?

02:01:39.000 If you're able to criticize your own side, you should listen to the Johnson household.

02:01:43.000 Kate and I are doing nothing but talking S on Republicans. 0.71

02:01:47.000 I hate Republicans so much more than Democrats, because Democrats at least have the goodness and kindness in their hearts to stab me in the face. 0.62

02:01:56.000 They tell me exactly where they're going to stab me and how they're going to do it. 0.99

02:01:59.000 Republicans stab me in the back. 0.69

02:02:01.000 And so I am so much angrier at Republicans than Democrats on a daily basis.

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02:04:46.000 He starts his stream at like 11?

02:04:48.000 P.M.?

02:04:48.000 Eastern Standard Time?

02:04:49.000 That's crazy.

02:04:50.000 He's doing a favor for me because I have the show tonight, so he might be staying up a little later than normal, but we'll find out when we go live on Slightly Offensive.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 24, 2023

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