Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Crowder Leaks Phone Call With Daily Wire As 'The Big Con' Drama Erupts w-Candace Owens

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00:00:32.000 you What just happened?

00:00:37.000 Like, YouTube picked up, like, the pre-show?

00:00:41.000 I was talking about making a video game and, like, open-source rules or something.

00:00:44.000 Oh, I hope people heard it.

00:00:44.000 It's like, hot mic!

00:00:45.000 Tim's talking about making a game.

00:00:46.000 I was talking about my hair sticking up.

00:00:47.000 Talking about your hair sticking up.

00:00:48.000 Yeah, I think that's what popped up.

00:00:49.000 That's embarrassing.

00:00:50.000 Is it?

00:00:52.000 So Stephen Crowder put out a response to Jeremy Boring's response.

00:00:55.000 Let me give you the gist.

00:00:56.000 You've got two juggernauts in independent anti-establishment slash conservative media space.

00:01:02.000 Crowder is accusing the Daily Wire.

00:01:03.000 The Daily Wire's co-CEO Jeremy Boring issued a response.

00:01:07.000 Stephen Crowder just issued another response and the drama is heating up.

00:01:11.000 And in this response, Crowder posted clips of a phone call he had with Jeremy Boring,

00:01:17.000 which is now just lighting up the drama even more, because you've got some people saying

00:01:21.000 they don't like what Jeremy said, but a lot of people pointing out that, you know, why

00:01:25.000 did Stephen record Jeremy Boring's phone call in the first place?

00:01:27.000 It's like, that's kind of a, you know, I don't know, man.

00:01:30.000 People are not happy that that happened.

00:01:32.000 So we're going to talk about all this.

00:01:34.000 And this is also lighting up in mainstream press.

00:01:37.000 It's like the big con, the drama between Stephen Crowder and the Daily Wire.

00:01:42.000 You know, it's convenient for us that right after the speaker's vote, we're like, man, there's no news, and all of a sudden, this drama happens.

00:01:48.000 Hold my beer.

00:01:48.000 Yeah, hold my beer.

00:01:49.000 So we're going to talk about that but we do have news.

00:01:51.000 We had a lot of stuff out of the World Economic Forum.

00:01:53.000 Al Gore saying that he like went on this like he may as well held up a sign saying the end is nigh with a scraggly beard on the side of a highway screaming about how it's all coming to an end because it was like an unhinged rant and it's funny coming from a guy who like 20 years ago said we had 10 years or whatever.

00:02:09.000 So like okay yeah calm down like we want to be good stewards of the earth but saying it's going to rain bombs and people are like a billion refugees are going to storm countries. 1.00

00:02:16.000 Slow down there buddy.

00:02:17.000 And then we got them saying that there will be a ban on free speech in this country.

00:02:22.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:02:23.000 Plus Alec Baldwin, my friends, I told you, you know what they said?

00:02:29.000 First of all, he's being charged with involuntary manslaughter.

00:02:32.000 And they found live ammo.

00:02:34.000 And where did they find it?

00:02:35.000 Well, there was some, like, in the box of ammo.

00:02:37.000 There was some lying around.

00:02:38.000 And there was live ammo in Alec Baldwin's gun belt that he was wearing.

00:02:43.000 So when y'all say, like, but how could the bullet have gotten to the gun?

00:02:45.000 I don't know, maybe the guy who shot the gun had the bullet on him, had bullets on him.

00:02:49.000 I'm going to go off on this because we talked a lot about Alec Baldwin last year when it happened.

00:02:52.000 So we'll talk about that.

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00:04:31.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Candice Owens.

00:04:34.000 Hello, hello.

00:04:35.000 It's lovely to be back here.

00:04:37.000 So, uh, everybody knows who you are, but I guess you just gotta introduce yourself anyway.

00:04:40.000 My name is Candace Owens, just as he said.

00:04:42.000 I would like to confirm that statement.

00:04:45.000 Tell me more.

00:04:45.000 I would like to also first say that this was not planned, a part of this thing that blew up this week.

00:04:54.000 We booked me on for this exact night before the end of last year.

00:04:57.000 So it just happened to be that I am on when all of this drama is unfolding with The Daily Wire and Steven Crowder.

00:05:03.000 This was not a plot.

00:05:04.000 They don't know you are.

00:05:06.000 Are you on contract with The Daily Wire?

00:05:07.000 Is that how it is?

00:05:07.000 Are you an employee with The Daily Wire?

00:05:09.000 I'm not an employee.

00:05:09.000 I am contracted.

00:05:11.000 I do my podcast show five days a week on The Daily Wire, and I've now been doing that for almost three years, I think.

00:05:20.000 Two, three years.

00:05:21.000 Yeah.

00:05:22.000 Cool, right on.

00:05:22.000 Well, we definitely got to talk about the Crowder stuff, because before we went live, you were just going off about all this stuff, and there's a lot to say, so we'll get into that.

00:05:29.000 We got Luke hanging out.

00:05:30.000 Hey, guys, my name's Luke Hradowski here of wearechange.org and the World Economic Forum hates your freedom.

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00:05:56.000 Thank you again so much for having me.

00:05:58.000 Ian Crossland from IanCrossland.net.

00:06:00.000 What's up, everybody?

00:06:00.000 Candice, great to see you again.

00:06:02.000 Always a pleasure.

00:06:03.000 Let's get down to this, Serge.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, I am at Serge.com.

00:06:06.000 Always happy to see you.

00:06:07.000 It's going to be a good episode, so let's go.

00:06:09.000 All right, so here's the first story that we have, and this one's gonna get spicy.

00:06:14.000 We got this video clip from Steven Crowder titled, I Didn't Want to Do This.

00:06:18.000 Crowder has issued a response to Jeremy Boring's response.

00:06:22.000 In it, Steven Crowder releases some audio, notably... Well, let me see if I can play this.

00:06:27.000 Do we have the audio properly set up?

00:06:29.000 Yep.

00:06:30.000 Here we go.

00:06:31.000 We'll play the beginning.

00:06:33.000 They don't get deals that... They can be wage slaves for a little bit. 1.00

00:06:37.000 Come over and make a salary and grow their brand.

00:06:41.000 They can be wage slaves for a little bit.

00:06:44.000 They can be wage slaves.

00:06:53.000 God bless the talkboy.

00:06:54.000 Those things are worth like $5,000 now.

00:06:56.000 It's an expensive gag.

00:06:57.000 That is kind of crazy.

00:06:58.000 I didn't realize they were so expensive.

00:07:03.000 This is a tough one.

00:07:05.000 Stephen's not here to defend himself, but Candice is here to give her perspective on this.

00:07:10.000 So I'll just throw it to you and give me your thoughts on his response and what happened with the Daily Wire because I know you've got a lot to say.

00:07:15.000 I do have a lot to say about this because obviously the situation impacted me and impacted all of the other hosts

00:07:20.000 on the Daily Wire.

00:07:21.000 So first of all, I feel like I just want to say this, which is that I have never once, I've been with Daily Wire two to

00:07:26.000 three years now, you have never once heard me come out to defend the Daily

00:07:29.000 Wire on anything.

00:07:30.000 This is not the first time Daily Wire has been in a firestorm or has been, had some beef that has gone on, whether it's

00:07:35.000 for Ben or Matt or Michael that's going on the last three years.

00:07:38.000 I tend to stay very much in my lane.

00:07:40.000 As I mentioned before, I'm not an employee of Daily Wire.

00:07:42.000 I'm not required to come out and defend them.

00:07:43.000 And I'm usually just not interested in these beefs that seem to be so fickle.

00:07:46.000 They last for a day and then they go away.

00:07:48.000 And it's probably the reason why, for whatever, doesn't really matter what anybody thinks about me.

00:07:54.000 I have a good relationship with pretty much everybody.

00:07:56.000 Like, there's no one that I can't be invited and be in the same room with.

00:07:59.000 Everybody sort of hates each other, but I'm kind of, I can, Alex Jones has a good opinion of me.

00:08:03.000 Everyone from Alex Jones to Ben Shapiro to Paul Joseph Watson.

00:08:06.000 Mike Cernovich is somebody that I call and ask for advice from time to time.

00:08:10.000 Jack Masobic.

00:08:11.000 Like, I'm a kind of person that judges people based on how they treat people, right?

00:08:15.000 I'm not interested in dabbling in this nonsense.

00:08:19.000 Nonsense from time to time that appears and then goes away and ebbs and flows.

00:08:22.000 This situation though was different because basically Stephen Crowder decided to launch

00:08:26.000 a war and didn't really care who got hit, you know, with the shrapnel, right?

00:08:30.000 He comes out, he makes this glorious video, which it's shocking to me that people cannot

00:08:35.000 see the amount of acting that is going into this.

00:08:37.000 We all understand.

00:08:38.000 He was a childhood actor.

00:08:39.000 I loved that show, Arthur.

00:08:41.000 He was the brain.

00:08:43.000 He is an actor.

00:08:43.000 At the end of the day, he's an actor.

00:08:44.000 It's also why he's so entertaining when it comes to politics.

00:08:47.000 He's a talented person.

00:08:48.000 But that people cannot discern the amount of acting that has gone on in this is stunning to me.

00:08:52.000 I don't know where people's discernment, what's going on with discernment, where you can't just spiritually discern that this feels a little weird.

00:08:58.000 Right?

00:08:58.000 You're recording conversations with someone that you have told us you are friends with forever.

00:09:02.000 Oh, and by the way, at the end of you saying that you're just trying to do the right thing, you're also saying, I'm going to launch my own thing.

00:09:07.000 Right?

00:09:07.000 So, just when I first saw the first video that he dropped, obviously I'm not privy to negotiations that happen on the Daily Wire.

00:09:12.000 I had no idea they were negotiating with Steven Crowder.

00:09:15.000 Again, not my business.

00:09:16.000 I came into work one day, suddenly Brett Cooper was there.

00:09:18.000 Not my business.

00:09:19.000 I don't know who they're hiring.

00:09:19.000 I don't own the company, right?

00:09:21.000 But what I started getting was after I had dropped my podcast in the comment section, everyone was basically tearing me apart, being like, blink twice if you need help.

00:09:29.000 First thing, like I'm a hostage situation. 0.95

00:09:31.000 Or saying, if you don't say anything about Steven Crowder, you're a fraud, you're a fraud. 1.00

00:09:33.000 Just like suddenly you're a fraud, you're a fraud. 0.99

00:09:35.000 So I go and I watch this video and just like everybody else watching it live, his first video, your instincts are like, whoa, he's He's throwing some bombs. 0.98

00:09:43.000 He's calling it Big Con.

00:09:44.000 He's saying, essentially, that we are enslaved by these contract terms.

00:09:48.000 He actually uses the term enslavement.

00:09:49.000 If you don't want to be a slave, you know, you may be a co-worker.

00:09:52.000 I'm going to figure it out for all of us.

00:09:53.000 Like, you're a hero.

00:09:54.000 You're a martyr.

00:09:55.000 And because I was getting so many comments, the first thing I did was that I messaged my EP and I said, we have to cover this tomorrow on the show because now everyone thinks I'm a fraud and they think that I've signed with fraudulent terms or slave-like terms.

00:10:05.000 And that's so totally unfair to me.

00:10:07.000 So my interest in this is that it hit me and it hit everybody else at Daily Wire and it was unfair.

00:10:12.000 Do you, I don't know, you don't have to answer this I guess, but do you have a similar contract?

00:10:16.000 There are certain terms I recognize, that's why I immediately knew it was Daily Wire.

00:10:18.000 So, for example, the fee reduction if you miss a day of work, right?

00:10:23.000 Like, if you miss a day of work.

00:10:24.000 We are paying for X amount of episodes, and this is a steep amount if you miss one day of work.

00:10:28.000 When you first see that, when I first received a contract from Daily Wire, I went, that's a shocking number to see.

00:10:33.000 Then you have to calculate, and by the way, mine was not this, I want to be very clear, I don't have a $50 million contract.

00:10:38.000 If there's anything I should be upset about, it's that they were going to pay that much to Steven Crowder, right?

00:10:41.000 Not you.

00:10:41.000 I need to go renegotiate my contract.

00:10:43.000 But, so you see it, and it's shocking, and then you read under, which is what he did not include, when he says, so if I get hit by a car, like, I'm just gonna, $100,000 a day, he didn't tell you how much he made.

00:10:53.000 You don't know what $100,000 means unless you can see what were they offering him.

00:10:57.000 And you can calculate yourselves, okay, so what they're basically saying is that we're paying you $63,000 a day.

00:11:01.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:11:03.000 He purposely, like, excluded right beneath it that says that actually it's pro rata if it's an event of an emergency.

00:11:09.000 That's a very insignificant thing that would allow people not to be enraged at seeing this.

00:11:12.000 Yeah, just to clarify, when Jeremy released his video, he showed the additional portion that said, in the event of temporary disability, they prorate you, there's no penalty.

00:11:22.000 And then we talked about this last night.

00:11:25.000 I said, the $100,000 seems punitive.

00:11:27.000 I think you mentioned, yeah, but what about daily wires costs?

00:11:30.000 I said, oh, yeah, fair point.

00:11:32.000 That's exactly right.

00:11:33.000 They have all of these contracts that exist.

00:11:35.000 It's very easy to understand.

00:11:36.000 Here's $100,000.

00:11:38.000 We're paying you $63,000 for the content.

00:11:40.000 They also have a bunch of contracts.

00:11:42.000 Everybody's working on the show.

00:11:43.000 So for example, my EP, she's contracted.

00:11:46.000 I don't know what her contract says.

00:11:47.000 Maybe it says that no matter what, she is guaranteed this amount of money.

00:11:50.000 So if I magically call out, they still have to pay her.

00:11:53.000 They still have to pay the camera guy.

00:11:55.000 Maybe the advertising is punitive.

00:11:57.000 If you didn't give us the content, the advertisers maybe then say, okay, JLWire has to pay us $5,000 if Kansas doesn't read ads on that day.

00:12:04.000 You don't know, when you have an organization this big, what everybody's contracts are.

00:12:07.000 So I assume it's $60,000 and then they're baking in an extra $38,000 to cover their asses to pay everybody else that maybe showed up for work that day.

00:12:16.000 But Jeremy did say punitive.

00:12:18.000 It is!

00:12:19.000 because he said, well, you're right about the costs all around it, but he said, he basically

00:12:24.000 said one circumstance is you're choosing not to work and one is you're unable to work.

00:12:29.000 If you're unable, we get it, we'll just prorate based on the lost day.

00:12:33.000 But he also said something interesting that you could make up that day by banking it at

00:12:38.000 any time.

00:12:39.000 Right.

00:12:40.000 I do that, and that's why it's so annoying.

00:12:42.000 So I see these things.

00:12:43.000 To people who don't know how this works, first and foremost, it's a term sheet.

00:12:46.000 He was never given a contract.

00:12:48.000 It was a term sheet.

00:12:49.000 It's essentially a starting conversation.

00:12:51.000 Here's what we have in mind.

00:12:53.000 Everything's baked in.

00:12:53.000 Some things literally don't make sense.

00:12:54.000 Like in my term sheet, it said, you know, Whatever about they wanted access to my snapchat.

00:13:00.000 I don't have a snapchat.

00:13:01.000 They wanted access to my rumble.

00:13:02.000 I don't have a rumble.

00:13:03.000 They don't want access.

00:13:04.000 It's literally just like here's something so we can get the conversation started and really the thing you need to pay attention to is like this is the money and then of course our lawyer is going to go back and say this makes entirely no sense.

00:13:13.000 This makes entirely no sense.

00:13:13.000 So then you get to you know Personalize it, so to speak, right?

00:13:16.000 When you say, okay, well, this thing makes me nervous because, okay, what if it's not me that's sick, but my son?

00:13:22.000 I have two kids, right?

00:13:24.000 What if my son breaks his leg and I have to be, I'm not going to not leave his side, so I have to then say, I need to personalize this term sheet and that is what the contract is in for if you come to some agreement that this is what we're going to work on, right?

00:13:35.000 This is what we're going to negotiate in good faith, right?

00:13:38.000 So he first and foremost lied by saying it was a contract.

00:13:41.000 He lied by omission, by not saying how much money.

00:13:43.000 So people couldn't calculate, okay, really, how punitive is that $100,000?

00:13:47.000 Not that much.

00:13:48.000 And you consider that there's a bunch of costs that go in to producing a show and people that they may have paid editors.

00:13:53.000 In this case, he produces his own show, but you know, editors editors, writers, no matter what,

00:13:57.000 The Daily Wire has to receive that package and do something to it.

00:13:59.000 So, and by the way, like I said, we know it's at least standard,

00:14:02.000 so it's not because they're trying to hit Steven Crowder.

00:14:04.000 They've given this to all of us, and your job then, if you're a big boy, right,

00:14:08.000 if you can put on your big boy pants, is to go to your lawyer and to say,

00:14:11.000 I'm not doing that, I'm not doing that, this makes no sense, negotiate.

00:14:15.000 Now, if you are a young talent that was discovered on YouTube,

00:14:18.000 as I was way back in the day, who comes from no money, as I was way back in the day,

00:14:21.000 this could be unfair, because I can't afford a lawyer to go through line by line of this and red line this.

00:14:27.000 That is not the circumstance for Steven Crowder.

00:14:28.000 He's already told us he's got so much money, he's more successful, and he doesn't need the money, blah, blah, blah.

00:14:32.000 So why didn't he just hire a lawyer?

00:14:34.000 But that's what he said in the rebuttal.

00:14:36.000 It's not about me.

00:14:37.000 It's about the Daily Wire signing new, upcoming young people to these terms, and they don't have lawyers.

00:14:43.000 And in that capacity, he hits Brett Cooper.

00:14:45.000 Right?

00:14:45.000 Now he's basically, so who is a young upcoming talent that got signed with Daily Wire?

00:14:50.000 There's only, what, five hosts of shows on the Daily Wire?

00:14:53.000 I mean, so you're talking about Matt Walsh?

00:14:55.000 No, he's not a young upcoming talent that's just been signed.

00:14:58.000 Are you talking about Michael Knowles?

00:14:59.000 No, he's not a young upcoming talent.

00:15:00.000 You're not talking about Kent Stones?

00:15:01.000 I don't think we would say Andrew Clavin is a young upcoming talent.

00:15:04.000 So you're talking about Brett Cooper?

00:15:06.000 That's insulting to Brett Cooper. 1.00

00:15:07.000 You have no idea what, he's just saying shit, right? 0.99

00:15:10.000 And it's not like he's reached out to us and said, hey, like, I'm doing this for all of us. 0.99

00:15:14.000 Like, it's not he reached out independently to Daily Wire hosts and been like, are you dealing with these egregious terms?

00:15:19.000 No, he is doing this purely, let's not even try to make this anything but a selfish act that was to benefit Steven Crowder, who wants to launch his own network, because, and by the way, and I say this, this is the most important part of this, and nobody is talking about this.

00:15:33.000 He receives the term sheet, okay, and he thinks it's so egregious that he's got to make this video four months later, right?

00:15:39.000 I don't know what happened in those four months after they started negotiating.

00:15:42.000 I guess Steven Crowder woke up, new year, new me.

00:15:44.000 I hate the Daily Wire, so I'm going to go after them.

00:15:47.000 He thinks it's so egregious.

00:15:49.000 The first thing he does is counter offer and say, let's start talking about 140 million.

00:15:53.000 Okay.

00:15:53.000 So if it was so outrageous, why did he go back to them and say, no, actually we can have this conversation, but let's start talking about 140 million.

00:16:00.000 Right.

00:16:00.000 It was only when the Daily Wire then turned that down that the term sheet became so egregious that he had to do something about it.

00:16:06.000 I'll just add real quick to everybody.

00:16:08.000 Steven Crowder is coming on the show on Monday.

00:16:09.000 I know he's not here to defend himself.

00:16:12.000 Did you speak to him?

00:16:12.000 Because he might have recorded your conversation.

00:16:14.000 So you might want to talk to him about whatever the hell it is you said to him.

00:16:16.000 I mean, yeah, my view is I was kind of surprised to hear that Steven recorded the phone call

00:16:20.000 with Jeremy because I don't know why you would.

00:16:23.000 Oh, and by the way, it should be mentioned, that conversation, so they stopped negotiating

00:16:29.000 completely which Jeremy made clear in his video.

00:16:32.000 He doesn't even know what this is coming from because this conversation stopped when Steven Crowder then came back with a counter term sheet offer of a glorious $140 million over X amount of years and they said, we just can't do this, right?

00:16:45.000 Then he sat and he stewed and he said nothing until one week ago, he reaches out to Jeremy and he asks him to talk on the phone.

00:16:52.000 And that was one week ago.

00:16:54.000 That is the conversation that you guys are all hearing that he is playing right now.

00:16:58.000 So he plotted this.

00:16:59.000 This is a plot line.

00:17:00.000 He planned to then record him to go back and to make this video.

00:17:04.000 If he had recorded this way back during negotiations, maybe you could say there was no plot.

00:17:09.000 Why did he reach out to Jeremy exactly one week ago when they hadn't discussed anything pertaining to the contract?

00:17:14.000 And they said no one walked away last year around October, November.

00:17:17.000 And then suddenly in January, he reaches out one week ago and says, hey, can we get on the phone?

00:17:21.000 And he decides maybe I should record.

00:17:22.000 No, it's because he realized he had nowhere left to go, and his next plot in this storyline, in this terrible childhood acting that he's doing right now, was, okay, I have to do my own thing now, and so I need to drum up some drama to get everybody that I know to believe that I am a martyr for our beliefs, and they should dump their subscriptions to everybody else that's part of Big Con and join the Mug Club.

00:17:43.000 How can people not see?

00:17:44.000 I mean, the writing is just so on the wall.

00:17:46.000 The fact that he recorded Jeremy says that he did plan.

00:17:49.000 Of course he planned!

00:17:50.000 Look, I'm not here to impugn his honor.

00:17:53.000 I think you're absolutely entitled to your view, working with the Daily Wire and everything you've seen.

00:17:57.000 But it does suggest that he knew he was calling Jeremy for this reason.

00:18:02.000 I think Crowder is... I don't know if I... I think it might be too far for me to believe that Crowder is trying to do this to pull subscribers from Daily Wire or make more money for himself.

00:18:12.000 Because the dude already makes a lot of money.

00:18:13.000 But he does not, he thinks that he is worthy of $140 million a year.

00:18:19.000 Do you believe that Steven Crowder right now is making $140 million a year?

00:18:22.000 I bet he could.

00:18:22.000 You bet he could.

00:18:23.000 I absolutely do think he could.

00:18:24.000 You bet he could, but how's he gonna do that?

00:18:25.000 How's he gonna start that?

00:18:26.000 He just had a couple of kids.

00:18:27.000 How's he gonna start that?

00:18:28.000 You launch a war in a conservative movement and you move people away from a business that you wanna model, you know, I don't know who's modeling who, I don't know who started this first, but you basically say, I'm not them, come with me.

00:18:39.000 And that's exactly what he's doing.

00:18:40.000 Call a spade a spade.

00:18:41.000 Call a spade a spade, okay?

00:18:43.000 This was a plotline, and that annoys me because he dragged me into this plotline, okay?

00:18:47.000 He dragged us all into this plotline.

00:18:49.000 He's basically saying, at one point in this video, this is what really set me off.

00:18:52.000 He's like, and so you might be noticing that a lot of these people, their viewpoints are sanitized, and this is why.

00:18:58.000 This contract, this is why.

00:19:01.000 Essentially saying that Candace is controlled, Matt Walsh is controlled, Michael Knowles is controlled, Brett Cooper is controlled, and now we know why, guys.

00:19:08.000 Because I have this contract, which I've conveniently excerpted portions that could allow you to discern for yourself, but it's actually not that unreasonable as a starter conversation, which is what a term sheet is, right?

00:19:18.000 And instead, I'm just gonna smear all these people that are associated with the other wire, and that's why I'm pissed off. 0.97

00:19:23.000 That's why I'm pissed off, because I then was fielding comments calling me a fraud because they thought that I agreed to these terms and that my voice was being controlled.

00:19:30.000 You know what I told Steve and I said, I think ideologically I understand his gripe with the contracts and I agree with the contracts.

00:19:38.000 We don't do contracts the way the Daily Wire does.

00:19:40.000 There was no contract, I just want to say that one more time.

00:19:42.000 Right, so contract, different term, terms.

00:19:46.000 I don't do terms the way The Daily Wire does.

00:19:51.000 It's like the Joe Rogan story I often tell, that he booted me from his show twice and I didn't get mad at him.

00:19:57.000 I was like, well, I'm kind of pissed off that he booted me twice, like happened twice, and I flew out to LA, but he doesn't owe me any favors.

00:20:03.000 I'm not going to rag on Joe Rogan because he didn't do me a favor.

00:20:06.000 If I was on his show, it'd be really great for me.

00:20:08.000 It didn't work out.

00:20:09.000 I'm going to carry on with my life and my business.

00:20:11.000 I've negotiated with The Daily Wire.

00:20:13.000 We couldn't figure out something that worked.

00:20:14.000 We're very different in that sense.

00:20:16.000 And I said, well, you know, it was nice hanging out and let's work on stuff in the future and we'll make awesome stuff.

00:20:21.000 I told Stephen, I said, I think that the Daily Wire is a massive net positive, especially with like, what is a woman? 1.00

00:20:26.000 I mean, that was a massive cultural force that got even mainstream, like, moderate lefty types to be like, oh yeah, I've seen that.

00:20:34.000 and start this conversation. Then you did the BLM documentary of course

00:20:37.000 that had, I don't think it was nearly as big as What Is A Woman, but it certainly had a 0.99

00:20:40.000 cultural response.

00:20:41.000 These things are tremendous and so my attitude is like, look,

00:20:45.000 I don't like the contracts, they're very business-like, they're very entertainment

00:20:51.000 industry.

00:20:52.000 I understand that Daily Wire does it.

00:20:55.000 If someone came to me and said, we're going to get investors, we're going to get some prominent conservative voices, and we're going to launch a company that rivals Disney, I'd be like, man, I don't like Disney.

00:21:05.000 And they'll go, yeah, yeah, but it will be America-loving, independently-minded, meritocratic.

00:21:09.000 I'll say, oh, I'll take that over Disney any day.

00:21:12.000 And then I'll go and do my thing that I think should be the way I want it to be.

00:21:15.000 And I'm not gonna be mad at The Daily Wire for The Daily Wire doing a thing.

00:21:18.000 Yeah, Phil, what you're describing, first and foremost, are the free markets, right?

00:21:22.000 If you don't like it somewhere, leave.

00:21:24.000 I thought we were conservatives.

00:21:24.000 I thought that's what you're trying to preserve, right?

00:21:26.000 A free market mentality.

00:21:27.000 If Daily Wire is so awful, right, and so predatory, and treating their talent so horrifically, they'd have no talent, right?

00:21:34.000 Then, literally, Steven Crowder wouldn't have to launch a war.

00:21:37.000 He just had to launch an alternative business with better contracts and people would leave willingly.

00:21:41.000 They would say, there's more money there, there's better treatment, I'm leaving.

00:21:43.000 That's how the free markets work, right?

00:21:45.000 Because he did not feel, maybe he's feeling a little insecure, he thought that he was a free agent, he feels like he's Tom Brady, everyone's gonna make me all these offers, and he felt like it came in extremely low, Tom Brady.

00:21:54.000 I'm Tom Brady.

00:21:55.000 Why am I getting offered $50 million?

00:21:56.000 That should be offered $140 million.

00:21:58.000 And the team says, no, thank you, Tom Brady.

00:22:00.000 And then he goes, well, I'm effing Tom Brady.

00:22:02.000 Well, the truth is, it's like, I think Steven Crowder was feeling insecure.

00:22:05.000 I think he was reeling after those negotiations.

00:22:07.000 I think there are very few conservative networks that can offer him that money.

00:22:10.000 He's actually, you know, he's burned a few bridges, right?

00:22:12.000 Fox News, he's burned a bridge.

00:22:13.000 He's burned a bridge with the police.

00:22:15.000 How many other companies in the conservative movement does he think can reasonably afford to pay him what he thinks he's worth?

00:22:20.000 Right?

00:22:20.000 The Daily Wire.

00:22:22.000 So when he was done, I think that he was feeling tremendously insecure, right?

00:22:25.000 When those negotiations failed in October or November, he stewed on it in November, stewed on it in December, came up in January and decided, okay, I'm gonna have to launch my own outfit.

00:22:35.000 I'm gonna go after the Daily Wire.

00:22:37.000 And his plotline included calling Jeremy Boren, catching him on cam- on- on- we only have seen a piece of his conversation.

00:22:42.000 Jeremy has already tweeted that he called him like, hey, let's catch up.

00:22:45.000 And then- and now he's- he was like, let's talk about the kids and Christmas.

00:22:49.000 They were friends.

00:22:50.000 Very close friends.

00:22:51.000 Okay?

00:22:52.000 Steven Crowder has said they were friends.

00:22:54.000 Not colleagues, not associates, not, you know, like I would say me and Matt Walsh and we're associates, but friends.

00:23:00.000 He called his friends to talk about Christmas and his kids and said he recorded him and then dropped that recording a week later pretending that he was doing this to be a martyr.

00:23:08.000 I just don't see how people don't realize this guy is a bad, a fundamentally bad person.

00:23:12.000 Like, I don't understand how this is even a debate.

00:23:15.000 The phone call thing's rough.

00:23:16.000 I mean... Who records their friends?

00:23:18.000 With friends like these, who needs enemies?

00:23:20.000 Who needs the left when we've got friends like these in the conservative movement?

00:23:23.000 But the other thing too is, I say this about Project Veritas, I think Veritas should release the raw when they do this stuff.

00:23:29.000 There's a lot of stuff that Veritas has done that's been very important.

00:23:32.000 But I'm often like, you know, it could quash a lot of these arguments about deceptive editing if you just say like, We editorialized, here's the raw footage you can see for yourself, minus private information, if there's like addresses or phone numbers.

00:23:43.000 In this context, I'm really not a fan of snippets being released, because it's like, okay, well, what led up to that moment?

00:23:51.000 Yeah, when he said wage slaves, we don't know the context of, it sounds to me like he was potentially asking a question about, well, do you do this, you know, with all your children?

00:23:58.000 He's like, well, this is different.

00:23:59.000 You're a big person coming in, and we don't have to put as much money behind you, so we're concerned that you're gonna have an ad drop.

00:24:05.000 If you're a new person, you're saying, you come to Daily Wire, and by this is completely a guess, I have no idea, you come to Daily Wire and you're like, hey, I want to try this thing, you know, can you make, can you make my name bigger?

00:24:13.000 Essentially, you're saying like, here are the wages we're going to pay you, you're going to work your ass off, you know what I mean?

00:24:17.000 And you have the benefit of having the entire Daily Wire network behind you.

00:24:22.000 I think he was probably trying to describe, again, I have no idea, The different mentality between getting talent like Steven Crowder and trying to get him in a contract versus getting talent that's new and is looking to become a Daily Wire because they basically absorb all the benefit.

00:24:36.000 Again, I don't know.

00:24:37.000 It is exactly what he was saying.

00:24:38.000 That's probably what he was saying.

00:24:39.000 And now he excerpted wage slaves as if he was these slaves that are working for me.

00:24:46.000 It's a colloquialism, you know what I mean?

00:24:48.000 He's using that term, not seriously, but it allows him to play that excerpt to make it sound like this is how The Daily Wire treats their employees.

00:24:55.000 I mean, it's just horrible stuff that he's doing with Daily Wire.

00:24:57.000 Jeremy was saying that if a new person with no audience comes to Daily Wire, they're basically going to put them on a contract with a wage and then they're going to own all the content that they say they're going to own.

00:25:06.000 Then when the person's done off the contract, they can go continue to be famous and successful.

00:25:10.000 Although Daily Wire will still own the stuff that they paid for to get produced while that person was there.

00:25:15.000 And he used the term wage slave.

00:25:16.000 Now, I'm with you.

00:25:17.000 I don't think the words themselves are that big of a deal.

00:25:20.000 No, but he wants it to come across like a big idea, like it's a very big deal because he's relying on business ignorance.

00:25:25.000 He keeps doing this.

00:25:26.000 He keeps relying on business ignorance and he's appealing, and this is literally a socialist tactic.

00:25:30.000 He's appealing to like, you know, the Amazon employees who want to like stick it to the man and then they boycott and they pick it because they're not getting paid, you know, $50,000 an hour and being treated to ice cream once a week.

00:25:41.000 He's appealing to people that he's like, okay, think of yourself as an employee, not as a business person.

00:25:45.000 Right?

00:25:45.000 This is a business person mindset.

00:25:47.000 This is what I get from this conversation.

00:25:49.000 Obviously, I'm privy to these talks with Jeremy and Caleb.

00:25:52.000 This is who I negotiate my contracts with.

00:25:54.000 And there have literally been times, because I'm a big girl, and I go and I sit with them and I say, there's no way I'm signing this line.

00:25:59.000 You know?

00:25:59.000 They move an inch this way.

00:26:01.000 I move an inch that way.

00:26:02.000 They move an inch this way.

00:26:03.000 And then here we are.

00:26:04.000 We meet here in the middle where we all feel like this is a good contract and nobody's a slave.

00:26:08.000 Right?

00:26:08.000 Because in order to sign a contract, if you fully comprehend it, you're not a slave.

00:26:12.000 You're just not a slave.

00:26:13.000 Something I think about Jeremy personally, and not too relevant, but I think he enjoys negotiating.

00:26:18.000 I think he's a true businessman.

00:26:19.000 If you want to work with Daily Wire, you've got to know that going into it.

00:26:22.000 Jeremy enjoys negotiating.

00:26:23.000 I want to read a super chat real quick because this is an important point.

00:26:26.000 IDG says, Daily Wire's agenda, make profit.

00:26:28.000 Crowder's agenda, saving American experiment.

00:26:31.000 Exhibit.

00:26:32.000 JBP deletes tweet supporting Crowder.

00:26:35.000 Exhibit B, your poll.

00:26:36.000 I'll tell you what I think. I don't completely disagree with that.

00:26:38.000 I think the Daily Wire is a machine.

00:26:41.000 I think the Daily Wire is a machine that is not the ideological system that I would personally build.

00:26:48.000 We do things very differently here.

00:26:50.000 The people who are here are on salary with no terms.

00:26:53.000 If pop culture crisis got bad for you...

00:26:55.000 This is a small company.

00:26:57.000 That's how it is when you work for me.

00:26:58.000 I have a company too, a small company, where we have seven employees, and it's familial.

00:27:02.000 You see, Savannah's downstairs. 0.82

00:27:04.000 We get to hang out and do fun things.

00:27:05.000 We're a small company.

00:27:06.000 If we grew and we suddenly had 400 employees, things have to get a lot more serious and professional.

00:27:11.000 That's true, but I've talked to Jeremy a lot about this, and so it may just be we're small, and then he's like, when you get bigger, man, you're going to run into these things.

00:27:19.000 And I'm like, maybe, but here's my thing.

00:27:22.000 I like the Daily Wire.

00:27:24.000 I think the Daily Wire is, I think Jeremy and everybody else involved, and Jeremy's the one who made the video, are seeking to make money and use that money and build more and make more money.

00:27:37.000 If The Daily Wire succeeds and makes money and then makes more movies and makes more documentaries, that means we're going to get more What is a Woman? 1.00

00:27:43.000 It means we're going to get more, you know, Gina Carano's.

00:27:46.000 It means Hollywood will be weakened.

00:27:47.000 It means as Hollywood falls from the hill, a machine that actually, at least to some degree, shares our values will be there.

00:27:53.000 It may be, in your opinion, a cold, faceless machine, but at least the cold, faceless machine is saying meritocracy, meritocracy.

00:28:00.000 I'll be like, okay, well, Well, LOL to anyone who thinks that Steven Crowder is not doing this to make money.

00:28:04.000 Like, I mean, I just have to outwardly laugh.

00:28:06.000 He's the person in a disguise.

00:28:08.000 He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, right?

00:28:10.000 He's like, I'm not, I'm here because I care about all of you.

00:28:14.000 That's why I'm recording my friend and doing this crappy thing where I literally could have just said, no, I don't like those terms and then said to everybody, I'm starting my own outfit.

00:28:23.000 Fair.

00:28:23.000 You walk away all the time.

00:28:24.000 I have walked away.

00:28:26.000 I had an offer from the Blaze.

00:28:28.000 It didn't work for me.

00:28:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:28:29.000 I didn't need to piece apart the contract.

00:28:32.000 I love those guys.

00:28:33.000 I think Tyler is amazing.

00:28:35.000 This is what I'm saying.

00:28:36.000 People need to stop thinking that he is some knight in shining armor.

00:28:39.000 He's not.

00:28:40.000 He's not a knight in shining armor.

00:28:41.000 And if you can't see that, watch this video because I think his acting is never more apparent.

00:28:44.000 Even the titles.

00:28:45.000 I didn't want to do this.

00:28:46.000 Oh really?

00:28:47.000 Then why the hell did you record him?

00:28:49.000 What were you doing that for?

00:28:50.000 Did you think you were going to go to court?

00:28:51.000 Do you think you were going to go to court?

00:28:52.000 Because that's the only reason you record someone. 1.00

00:28:54.000 You'd be like, I don't trust my ex-fucking-wife. 0.99

00:28:56.000 Pardon my language, okay? 1.00

00:28:57.000 I don't trust my ex-wife, so I'm going to record this phone call for safety, right?

00:29:00.000 You record it because you're nervous that there's going to be a court hearing or the police are going to find out and you've got to back up what you said, okay?

00:29:06.000 Why are you recording your friend if not because you think it's going to go to court?

00:29:10.000 Oh, because you think it's gonna go to public and you're doing it intentionally because you know you're about to start a war.

00:29:14.000 People, please use your common sense.

00:29:16.000 I am not even- it's not even because I work for Daily Wire.

00:29:18.000 It is because he personally is- he's lying and he insulted me and during his- his lying campaign, he's still lying.

00:29:25.000 He even said something in this video where he's like, now they're sending out their- no, no, no. 0.99

00:29:28.000 You took- if you If you're gonna aim and you're gonna hit somebody with shrapnel and it's gonna be me, you better aim correctly, because I don't like shit like this, okay? 0.97

00:29:35.000 I have been quiet. 1.00

00:29:36.000 I know Steven Crowder treats people like absolute trash. 0.99

00:29:39.000 It's a known thing in the conservative movement. 0.98

00:29:40.000 Ask anybody that works at The Blaze, any person that's ever had a show on The Blaze, how Steven Crowder treats people.

00:29:45.000 By the way, you wanna talk about contract negotiations?

00:29:48.000 Why doesn't somebody reach out to Not Gay Jared, right? 0.96

00:29:50.000 Who used to be with Steven Crowder and figure out why he can't speak.

00:29:52.000 Why doesn't Steven Crowder release Not Gay Jared from his NDA? 0.99

00:29:56.000 I don't like shit like this, is all I'm saying. 0.99

00:29:58.000 I don't like it. 0.99

00:29:59.000 I want both Daily Wire and Crowder to succeed.

00:30:01.000 We should do a movie.

00:30:02.000 That's what we all wanted.

00:30:03.000 Who cares?

00:30:03.000 I want to do a buddy cop movie.

00:30:05.000 Yeah, something like Lethal Weapon, man.

00:30:06.000 Me and Steve.

00:30:07.000 It's going to be crazy.

00:30:08.000 It's going to be nuts.

00:30:09.000 Luke's sitting here.

00:30:09.000 I don't know what he's doing, man.

00:30:11.000 It's just bad business.

00:30:12.000 It's just bad business.

00:30:12.000 I'm like, this is like, whoa, you know, WWE.

00:30:15.000 Let me explain.

00:30:15.000 And I'm like, I personally just, you know, I personally don't care, to be honest.

00:30:20.000 I want to try and like... I want to talk about The Globalist.

00:30:23.000 We will.

00:30:25.000 He's like, I've got my notes.

00:30:27.000 I want to talk about how taxation-staffed politicians are criminals.

00:30:31.000 All right, but let's do drama first.

00:30:34.000 I think that what happened, Stephen, well first of all, why was he recording?

00:30:37.000 I think that's Fair question, but it doesn't need to be answered in text.

00:30:41.000 It's legal to record.

00:30:42.000 It's a one-party consent state.

00:30:44.000 So it's like saying, why is he open carrying a gun? 0.90

00:30:47.000 Because he's planning to shoot someone.

00:30:48.000 You don't know why he's got a gun.

00:30:50.000 You don't know why he's recording, and it really doesn't matter.

00:30:51.000 But recording is the action.

00:30:53.000 If he had a tape recorder when he made the phone call and didn't record, I'd say that argument is comparable.

00:30:59.000 For all I know, everyone in Texas is recording every conversation at every moment, and they have a right to do that, and maybe even a responsibility at this stage of reality.

00:31:06.000 I don't know.

00:31:07.000 Things you say can be taken out of context if you don't have the protection for yourself.

00:31:12.000 Secondly, I think what Steven said in this video that we're probably not going to watch all the way through, it's pretty long, or what, 20 minutes, 18 minutes, is that he's not concerned about the money, but I agree with you, Candace.

00:31:20.000 He did say, I can't do $50 million, I need $140 million, $30 million.

00:31:24.000 Something about, he said about 30 million a year is what he was looking for.

00:31:26.000 Jeremy said that, I think, at 30 million.

00:31:28.000 And then Crowder said he didn't.

00:31:28.000 He counter-offered.

00:31:29.000 He's like, I didn't sign up for the money.

00:31:30.000 So why'd you counter-offer before you said the terms weren't available?

00:31:32.000 So after they realized the money, that's not an option, we can't do 140, Stephen said, then you gotta take these demonetization negative penalties out from like, if I violate YouTube's terms, because now you're an arm of big tech, because you're making me follow YouTube's terms of service, you're basically a lapdog for YouTube.

00:31:49.000 But Crowder follows their terms of service, too.

00:31:51.000 We all do.

00:31:52.000 That's the whole point.

00:31:53.000 The first time I was on this show, it was during COVID crazy, if I remember correctly, and you said, you know, I know you have a stance on vaccines.

00:31:59.000 Let's wait until we get on to behind the paywall.

00:32:03.000 Let's be responsible.

00:32:04.000 Let's not get banned.

00:32:05.000 Yeah.

00:32:05.000 Let's talk about the 99 things we can and then the other stuff we can put on TimCast.com so that we can start the conversation.

00:32:11.000 Oh, you're shilling for Big Tech.

00:32:13.000 You're part of Big Con now.

00:32:15.000 No, you're all a part of Big Con because you're being smart and you don't want to get banned until we have a comfortable platform to go to.

00:32:21.000 Listen, the perfect world, we would all wish that we could do, I invest all of my time in trying to support companies and sometimes they fail and it sucks, you know what I mean?

00:32:27.000 Like I really believed in glorified banking, it crashed, you know?

00:32:30.000 I really believed in the freedom phone, that didn't work out.

00:32:32.000 We all want an alternative and we meaningfully want an alternative, we just don't have them.

00:32:36.000 We're not there yet as a conservative movement.

00:32:37.000 So while we're not there yet, we're just all going to what?

00:32:40.000 Just shoot ourselves in the foot?

00:32:42.000 And be nowhere to prove that we were a real one, right? 1.00

00:32:45.000 Ooh, it shows that you're a gangster because you got shot in your chest nine times. 0.95

00:32:49.000 If you don't get shot in your chest nine times, you're not a real gangster.

00:32:51.000 Like a real effective fighter against that is to use the momentum of Silicon Valley against itself for your favor, like jujitsu.

00:32:58.000 I don't think pushing back is the right use of energy.

00:33:01.000 It requires too much.

00:33:02.000 So you want to use these platforms to, one, get the word out about new platforms.

00:33:06.000 And two, as hosting.

00:33:08.000 Because you can host things behind... I mean, obviously they'll get banned if they violate these terms.

00:33:11.000 Whoa, hold on, hold on.

00:33:12.000 Give it to me.

00:33:13.000 We can check this.

00:33:14.000 Pulled upon Whois.

00:33:15.000 The domain for StopBigCon was registered on 12-12-2022.

00:33:18.000 Whois.com.

00:33:22.000 Stop Big Con was registered on 12-12-2022.

00:33:24.000 This is it.

00:33:24.000 The internet sleuths are gonna catch him.

00:33:26.000 Crowder announces he left the blaze and asked people to sign up for Mug Club on 12-15-2022.

00:33:29.000 Listen, I love you internet sleuths because this of course is going to happen and this is the problem is that Steven has to realize people are smart, okay?

00:33:39.000 People are smart.

00:33:39.000 They're gonna figure it out.

00:33:40.000 Oh, so you happened to register Big Con.

00:33:44.000 Yeah, let's confirm that.

00:33:45.000 Stop Big Con.

00:33:45.000 What's the website?

00:33:46.000 Yeah, I got it right here.

00:33:46.000 Is it stopbigcon.com?

00:33:48.000 Right now we are... 12-12-2022.

00:33:49.000 So this was registered...

00:33:52.000 Stop Big Con was registered before he announced he was leaving The Blaze.

00:33:55.000 Is that what it was?

00:33:55.000 Isn't that so weird?

00:33:56.000 He announced he was leaving The Blaze on 12th.

00:33:58.000 Well, look, guys, and again, Crowder will be here on Monday.

00:34:00.000 He can tell us about all of this.

00:34:01.000 And then he recorded his conversation with Jeremy two months after that?

00:34:04.000 I just want to say, like, we're in the middle, as per usual.

00:34:09.000 Candice was booked a month and a half ago, you know, and this whole drama lights up.

00:34:13.000 And then we talked with Crowder.

00:34:15.000 We asked him to come on and talk about this.

00:34:18.000 I mean, there are so many things that I disagree with The Daily Wire on.

00:34:20.000 Like, so many things.

00:34:22.000 This is just not one of them.

00:34:23.000 Like, this is just actually someone's being a bad person and plotting against them.

00:34:26.000 That's it.

00:34:27.000 That's all.

00:34:27.000 That's all this is, right?

00:34:28.000 And that's what I want to say, because like I said before, I've been on The Daily Wire for three years.

00:34:31.000 You've never heard me come out and defend them.

00:34:34.000 They're in trouble every other week with a different host for something that they said, something that they haven't said.

00:34:38.000 Ben Shapiro's under fire at least once a week on Twitter.

00:34:40.000 People are angry at him.

00:34:41.000 They think it's a show for this.

00:34:43.000 I don't weigh in on anything.

00:34:44.000 This actually, Steven Crowder's a bad person.

00:34:46.000 I was thinking, what if they just paid Steven $50 million for his back catalog and then put it on Daily Wire exclusive?

00:34:52.000 And the only way to see Steven is to go to Daily Wire.

00:34:54.000 I don't know if $50 million would be worth it, but four-year terms, all is back up.

00:34:59.000 If you had a lawyer, you could negotiate that.

00:35:01.000 What if you could go into dailywire.com and then pay $0.99 on a Crowder video to watch it for the day, and then Steven gets half the revenue?

00:35:07.000 There's so many cool things we could do that you guys could do.

00:35:11.000 It would require Stephen to just look at the term sheet and then be like, I'd rather do it this way.

00:35:18.000 Here you go.

00:35:18.000 There you go.

00:35:19.000 A conversation.

00:35:20.000 I'm interested to talk to him, Stephen, because I think he's got specific feelings and perspectives on what big tech censorship can do to a content creator that needs to be vocalized for future contract negotiations.

00:35:33.000 I've been I'm concerned about contracts, especially with, like, perpetuity clauses.

00:35:36.000 Like, we own your likeness forever, in every universe going forward.

00:35:40.000 They'll deepfake you and make you say things with deepfakes becoming so realistic.

00:35:44.000 They'll own your face and your name.

00:35:46.000 It's crazy.

00:35:46.000 We need to get perpetuity clauses for characters out of, for personality, out of contract.

00:35:51.000 I think so, right now.

00:35:52.000 I want to say this, like, I don't, they've always got a lot of haters.

00:35:56.000 And I can certainly understand not liking The Daily Wire or not liking certain personalities.

00:35:59.000 I know people who are like, I love Clay and I don't like Ben Shapiro.

00:36:02.000 Yeah.

00:36:02.000 I know people who are like, I only watch Candace.

00:36:04.000 I won't watch anybody else.

00:36:05.000 I think everyone else is bad.

00:36:06.000 And I'm like, okay.

00:36:08.000 But like... That should show that like we don't all agree on everything.

00:36:10.000 But Daily Wire Existing is a massive net positive, regardless of whether you like what they're doing or not.

00:36:16.000 Again, What Is A Woman was a massive cultural force, and that matters so much.

00:36:20.000 We talk about culture and the importance of cultural dominance so much.

00:36:23.000 That documentary reached regular people.

00:36:25.000 It was so big.

00:36:28.000 Regular people I know were like, oh, I saw that thing that was going viral, and I'm like, hey, that's good, do more of that.

00:36:33.000 I don't gotta go work for them.

00:36:34.000 Crowder doesn't have to go work for you guys, but for Jeremy or anything like that.

00:36:38.000 And that's why it's so crappy to paint a broad stroke, you know, paint with a broad stroke and say, the daily wire is this, because you're attacking Matt.

00:36:45.000 Well, it's just nothing to do with Stephen Crowder.

00:36:46.000 I have nothing to do with Stephen Crowder.

00:36:48.000 And yet you're basically making it seem like we're all plants and that we've done something wrong.

00:36:51.000 And that's deeply upsetting to me.

00:36:53.000 It's super annoying to me.

00:36:54.000 I would like to see people stop saying that company is doing thing, because it's people.

00:36:59.000 The people are doing the thing with the guise of the company attempting to protect their person, you know, their identity.

00:37:05.000 But like, no, companies don't do things.

00:37:07.000 Fair point, someone mentioned Crowder never said the Daily Wire.

00:37:09.000 Okay, but like, the shmaley shmire.

00:37:11.000 I mean, how many freaking, all of the context clues were there? 0.93

00:37:15.000 It's like, this is the crap, the acting of like, I'm not gonna say who it was, but I am gonna make sure you know that it's not The Blaze, that they have a subscription service, and that there are live ad reads, and that they could afford to put enough money on a contract that I would have a conversation. 0.91

00:37:26.000 Does your character have glasses? 0.99

00:37:30.000 Like, literally, this is such a ridiculous defense. 0.94

00:37:34.000 In four seconds, you can discern that this is about The Daily Wire. 0.94

00:37:36.000 Can't be Fox News.

00:37:37.000 They don't have live ad reads.

00:37:38.000 He already told you that it's not The Blaze.

00:37:40.000 What does that leave us left with?

00:37:42.000 Didn't you say that you also recognized the contract?

00:37:44.000 Fox News.

00:37:45.000 Even before he got to it.

00:37:46.000 I mean, when you say live ad reads, a subscription service, you can't be Fox News because he's already left them and talked trash with them the whole time, and they don't do live ad reads, right?

00:37:53.000 Who else could it have been?

00:37:54.000 Just give me another clue.

00:37:55.000 Who else could it have been?

00:37:57.000 PragerU, 501c3, not-for-profit, can't have been them.

00:37:59.000 Give me a person it could have been.

00:38:01.000 So that's what everybody was saying, the Daily Wire.

00:38:03.000 Yeah, it's cool.

00:38:04.000 I never said a name.

00:38:06.000 What do you think about this?

00:38:06.000 I think this was a bad move on Daily Wire's part that the contract said, if you get demonetized, there will be a fee, but Crowder's already demonetized.

00:38:14.000 They had, I told you, they had these same, this is why I'm saying this was just a conversation starter.

00:38:17.000 They had these same things that made no, literally entirely no sense in my contract.

00:38:21.000 I was, literally, I was like, okay, is this, you guys, like, a lawyer just, like, copy and pasted this from somebody else's contract?

00:38:25.000 Like, this is just a conversation starter.

00:38:26.000 Like, they just want you to see the number and go, mm, excited, and bring your lawyers in, right?

00:38:30.000 There were literally things that were saying, like, I'm not on TikTok.

00:38:33.000 They mentioned my TikTok, they mentioned my Snapchat, and I was like, okay, well, I'm not on any of these things, and I'm never planning on being on them, so we can strike this, strike this, and, you know, and then you add, and then you say, okay, this one sounds okay, can we include an extra line here?

00:38:47.000 Like, he kind of started this idea that my, Um, my social media channels are controlled, literally.

00:38:53.000 They had something about access to my Twitter, took it out.

00:38:55.000 I said, I will never, ever, ever, my Twitter is how I made my entire brand.

00:38:59.000 I will never even share a login to my Twitter, right?

00:39:01.000 My Instagram, same exact thing.

00:39:03.000 So they created a separate Instagram, which they're allowed to do, which has Candace Owens pod.

00:39:07.000 and it has its own followers, and they release stuff from the podcast.

00:39:10.000 I didn't want to sell my voice, you know, my social media things.

00:39:14.000 It would have been nice for them to have access, but it's actually better for them because then they can own that page in perpetuity.

00:39:19.000 Candice owns podcasts because I'm creating content for them so they can share clips into perpetuity of what they have paid for, right?

00:39:27.000 So it's like that's, again, he's pretending that there was something nefarious going on there.

00:39:31.000 I got the same stuff that made no sense.

00:39:33.000 You'd say, Just like he said, this makes no sense because I'm already demonetized from YouTube.

00:39:38.000 That was my circumstance for Facebook.

00:39:40.000 They had a thing about demonetization for Facebook.

00:39:42.000 My lawyer went back and said, Kansas is already demonetized on Facebook.

00:39:45.000 And they went, oh, that's right.

00:39:48.000 Strike it from the clause.

00:39:49.000 You know, for people asking, too, like, yeah, when Crowder comes on, I'm gonna let him, again, say his piece.

00:39:54.000 I'm not, you know, like, Candace is giving her perspective, working at the Daily Wire, and what... I went through the contract negotiations, so there's no way that he can pretend that there's something missing.

00:40:01.000 He didn't go through them.

00:40:02.000 He went through term sheet, don't like, $140 million, wham, wham, wham, going on to YouTube.

00:40:06.000 I went through the full five-month negotiations, so there's nothing for me to make up here.

00:40:11.000 You know what I mean?

00:40:12.000 Someone said, what if Crowder and the Daily Wire planned this for attention?

00:40:14.000 LOL.

00:40:16.000 LOL.

00:40:16.000 I like that.

00:40:18.000 I love a good conspiracy theory.

00:40:20.000 The Jeremy Boyne response video was recorded December 3rd.

00:40:23.000 I love that.

00:40:25.000 I don't know.

00:40:26.000 Look, look.

00:40:27.000 Again, I'll say it again.

00:40:27.000 Crowder's not here to defend himself.

00:40:29.000 You know, so, you know, Candace.

00:40:32.000 But Candace, how do you really feel?

00:40:36.000 But look man, I'll wrap up with this and we'll move on to some big worldly things with like the World Economic Forum.

00:40:43.000 Alec Baldwin, we gotta talk about Alec Baldwin.

00:40:47.000 Look, I negotiated with the Daily Wire on like, here's what happens.

00:40:52.000 You know, Jeremy comes on the show and he says, is there anything we can do together?

00:40:56.000 And he's like, I know you do a company and it's not the same as like if we went

00:40:59.000 to any other person and said, come work for us. 1.00

00:41:01.000 And I was like, there's probably something we can work out.

00:41:03.000 Look, there's a lot of stuff I don't know.

00:41:05.000 And we're trying to build this thing.

00:41:06.000 We're trying to do X, Y, and Z.

00:41:07.000 We're trying to do cultural stuff.

00:41:08.000 I know you guys are.

00:41:09.000 We talked, we went back and forth.

00:41:11.000 And I said, guys, I don't think there's anything here.

00:41:13.000 And Jeremy was like, I think you're right.

00:41:16.000 We went over numbers, we went over everything.

00:41:17.000 And the Daily Wire said, what if we did this?

00:41:20.000 And I said, it doesn't work.

00:41:22.000 It doesn't work for what we're doing, because we want to do these things.

00:41:25.000 I'm just going to come out and say this. 0.98

00:41:27.000 I try to keep private details, but I said, Jeremy, I might want to buy a billboard that says Liz Cheney is a fat pig. 1.00

00:41:33.000 You know what I mean? 0.96

00:41:35.000 And he started laughing, and he went, well, I don't know about that.

00:41:39.000 And I'm like, look, we're crazy weirdo rogues, what we do at TimCast. 0.78

00:41:42.000 We want to be nuts.

00:41:44.000 Not crazy crazy, but we want to just be... We're not the suits.

00:41:50.000 And we're not the corporation.

00:41:52.000 But I think what you guys are making is good, because your version of the corporation is better than the Disney version of the corporation.

00:41:58.000 But I'm not the corporation either, and I want to make that very clear.

00:42:00.000 And that's what annoys me, is that people just, they have this idea of what The Daily Wire is, and then they try to say that every single host exists under this idea.

00:42:07.000 We disagree all the time.

00:42:08.000 Like there is literally, it's hard to find a moment where me and Ben Crossin agree on You know what I'm saying?

00:42:15.000 And so they paint this thing of like, there is no, like, yes, the office is very corporate.

00:42:19.000 I don't even go into the office.

00:42:21.000 There's a podcast studio that I go into that is smaller than this, that I operate within.

00:42:26.000 So it's just, it's very frustrating because people just don't understand.

00:42:28.000 Yes, he is running his business and there is a corporate side of The Daily Wire.

00:42:32.000 And it's annoying to me to have to, though, answer for people that thinking that that somehow corporatizes Candace Owens.

00:42:37.000 I've been the exact same Candace Owens from the beginning of my YouTube days to now.

00:42:42.000 But I'm not trying to imply anything about you or any of the hosts.

00:42:47.000 It's a traditional corporation.

00:42:50.000 It's got personalities of varying opinions, and us putting a 95-foot billboard of a rooster on one of the biggest Times Square billboards makes no sense as a business.

00:43:00.000 But it makes sense culturally, and it makes sense, you know, like, we want to be more shocking, and the Daily Wire wants to beat Disney at their game.

00:43:08.000 You know, we do to a certain degree, but I don't think, you know, look, I think maybe in 10 years we can have some kind of network that'll have a cultural force, that's a good thing.

00:43:17.000 I think the Daily Wire, the way it's structured, actually is set up To poach the content, to poach the executives, to poach the talent from these industries.

00:43:25.000 Of course that makes you similar in some ways, but the output is corrected.

00:43:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:43:30.000 That's why I like The Daily Wire, you know, despite not wanting to work for The Daily Wire.

00:43:36.000 But at the end, you know, my thing with Jeremy was like, I don't think there's anything we could do transactionally, but there's a lot we can do culturally for fun.

00:43:44.000 And so we're actually working on some stuff.

00:43:46.000 And the same thing is true, like, you know, I talk to Crowder all the time about Well, I shouldn't say all the time, but periodically we talk about culture war issues, you know, what needs to be done, what we can do.

00:43:55.000 We've talked about the stuff that Ian's working on with a decentralized network.

00:43:59.000 Yeah, I got a new company, relatively new, called Inverted Technologies, and we're building, like, basically what Patreon attempted to do, or didn't quite get right, but that you basically upload, you download a packet, software packet, you load the application, you can upload videos to a server of your choice, one that you have at your house, you can upload it to Rumble, And then you can get your subs, all these people can pay 10 bucks a month, whatever you want, different tiers of payments to get access to that content.

00:44:24.000 And later as we build this out, it's going to have search algorithms where you can find other people, other content creators that are using it, and create a network where everyone owns their own stuff.

00:44:33.000 That's ultimately what it's about.

00:44:34.000 And you can't be banned.

00:44:34.000 The idea is like, your website can also have a recommended section.

00:44:39.000 of similar content and you as the website owner, so like let's say we did TimCast.com and we joined

00:44:44.000 this network, you will see in the recommended tab Steven Crowder. I could go, look I don't want,

00:44:50.000 you know, he's a competitor and I don't like his opinion, so I'm going to say on my website he

00:44:53.000 can't appear, but he's not banned from the network, just my personal site.

00:44:57.000 So basically you create a decentralized... That's awesome.

00:45:00.000 The idea would be you launch, you buy your own server time, space, or you make your own server, you buy your own domain, and then you download the package, install it on your server, and you instantly have your own Patreon.

00:45:11.000 That connects to the network of all the other people using it for recommendation reasons, because the recommendation is the real driver of so much of people.

00:45:20.000 If you make good content, and you make a lot of it, and it rises to the top, People will see it, and that's the machine that needs to happen.

00:45:28.000 But when YouTube bans you outright, you're gone from the grid.

00:45:31.000 When they shadow ban you, you're gone from the grid.

00:45:33.000 This way, you can't do it.

00:45:34.000 Anyway, I've talked about stuff like that, and I want to see him succeed.

00:45:40.000 I would prefer that, you know, the conflict, the arguing or whatever wasn't happening.

00:45:45.000 But look, I talked to Steven.

00:45:46.000 I genuinely believe that he thinks Daily Wire is a net negative in the space.

00:45:52.000 I don't think he's doing this for money.

00:45:54.000 You're entitled to your opinion.

00:45:55.000 I understand your perspective.

00:45:56.000 I've talked to him about it and he said that, you know, these kinds of contracts are... I'll paraphrase my understanding.

00:46:03.000 The old guard system created the problems.

00:46:06.000 Whatever we're building has to be new and it has to be different, it has to be better.

00:46:10.000 And it's funny because when I do deals with people, I joke that I'm a communist and that's why they're getting such good terms.

00:46:16.000 When I talk with Jeremy Boring, I'm like, this guy's a businessman who's trying to make sure no one can stab him in the back.

00:46:22.000 The fact is I think Steven Crowder doesn't know this because he hasn't started a business but I've been stabbed in the back like 73 times and it sucks every time and I lose money every time and my safety is threatened every time but you know like I jokingly say I'm a communist so blah blah blah I'm not literally but what I'm trying to convey by that is I'm still willing to over-extend myself if it means We're gonna get better people, and that's the system I'm gonna build.

00:46:49.000 I don't fault The Daily Wire for running their business the way businesses run.

00:46:52.000 I like the content The Daily Wire produces.

00:46:54.000 I just won't be there when they produce it.

00:46:55.000 Wonderful.

00:46:56.000 You're a free market capitalist.

00:46:57.000 Your idea is that if you believe that you have something better, or you can do something better, you create the something better.

00:47:03.000 And you take out the old guys. 1.00

00:47:04.000 Is that a foreign concept?

00:47:06.000 Has this become a foreign concept? 0.85

00:47:08.000 Do we have to all be so nasty?

00:47:11.000 To me, I just don't get it because I've never, since I've gotten into politics, I've never understood the mentality that you need to step on someone's head to go where.

00:47:18.000 Like, oh, I just need to step on this person's head so that I can move upstream.

00:47:22.000 It's like, why don't you learn to swim if you want to go upstream?

00:47:24.000 Why don't you learn to swim and tread some water if you want to go upstream?

00:47:26.000 What is this?

00:47:27.000 For a little bit of, ooh, I'm going to burn friendships, you keep calling them your friend.

00:47:33.000 It doesn't make any sense to me.

00:47:35.000 I'll say my final thought on this, I suppose.

00:47:37.000 And then again, Crowder will be here on Monday.

00:47:39.000 We'll have a conversation from his perspective.

00:47:41.000 Yo, if you're gonna stop anybody, I don't understand why going after The Daily Wire is the first target.

00:47:46.000 Even if The Daily Wire was doing these really awful contracts, or I should say, they're doing term sheets, they're doing contracting in ways you don't like, I still think it's like, well, okay, well at least they made What Is A Woman.

00:47:57.000 Let's focus on Disney and Netflix.

00:47:59.000 Netflix has done a bunch of pedo stuff, you know what I mean?

00:48:02.000 Daily Wire is just not a concern for me. 0.99

00:48:03.000 If I was going to come out and be like, 49% of the business dealings with Daily Wire I don't like, but 51% is good, then I'd be like, I'll take that 1% and I'll focus on Netflix doing weird pedo crap.

00:48:13.000 But I actually think The Daily Wire is much better than that.

00:48:15.000 I just, it's not my kind of business style.

00:48:17.000 So, you know, I hope Crowder just does his thing and succeeds.

00:48:22.000 And I think it's simple.

00:48:25.000 You know, if it were me, and I really did see The Daily Wire as a net negative, I'll put it this way.

00:48:29.000 I mean, I talk about Disney all the time.

00:48:30.000 I say, I don't expect you to abandon your Disney subscriptions because they have flubber.

00:48:34.000 They have movies you know and love.

00:48:36.000 I just hope to build a better website that eventually produces enough to where you say, I'd rather not have Disney.

00:48:42.000 That's my strategy.

00:48:43.000 But again, guys, I'm the milquetoast fence setter.

00:48:46.000 I'm the reformer, not a revolutionary.

00:48:48.000 I'm not going to come out, smash a bottle on the ground and be like, I will stand for nothing.

00:48:52.000 I'm going to sit here and I'm going to do the math.

00:48:53.000 I'm going to go, Daily Wire's doing pretty good.

00:48:55.000 I might not like that, but that's good for us.

00:48:57.000 Where's our net problem?

00:48:59.000 I'm much more slow-paced in calculating than that.

00:49:04.000 I think if the Daily Wire succeeds, we all succeed.

00:49:07.000 And then, when Disney's gone, when Netflix is gone, when Amazon Prime is gone, assuming, and the Daily Wire's the only one, then we can start saying, Daily Wire, you do better deals with your employees.

00:49:16.000 And then the Daily Wire's going to be like, You know, either do it or don't.

00:49:18.000 My take is I'm glad the conversation's happening.

00:49:21.000 I think that Jeremy and Steven have seen each other as friends is important, because sometimes it's easiest to criticize your friends.

00:49:27.000 It's easier to criticize your friends than people that might go sue you and don't have any connection to you at all.

00:49:33.000 And that Daily Wire is gaining a lot of steam and becoming larger and larger.

00:49:37.000 So if there really are problems with the contracts or the terms off the bat, it's important that they know that right away from people with, you know, large levels of influence.

00:49:47.000 I can't get over Steven Crowder having his $50 million pay docked for getting banned if he does too much racism when he's being hired by the Daily Wire to do blackface and every other flavor of bigotry.

00:50:05.000 Hassan's obviously joking.

00:50:06.000 I thought it was a really, really funny tweet.

00:50:07.000 I think it's funny.

00:50:07.000 I'm getting hired to do blackface.

00:50:09.000 And then Seth Dillon of the Babylon Bee.

00:50:11.000 He won the day.

00:50:12.000 I love Seth.

00:50:13.000 I love Seth.

00:50:13.000 He said, I didn't want to make this video.

00:50:15.000 I wanted to take a nap, but my hand was forced.

00:50:17.000 And then he makes this video where he was like, the Daily Wire thought Steven Crowder was talking about them.

00:50:22.000 How cute.

00:50:22.000 It was really, really funny.

00:50:24.000 So shout out.

00:50:24.000 I thought those were funny.

00:50:25.000 But let's talk about Alec Baldwin.

00:50:27.000 So we're going to revisit the Crowder stuff, obviously, because we have 50 billion super chats about it.

00:50:33.000 And I just want to let everyone know that YouTube YouTube deletes the superchats after a certain amount of money, so we can only go back to like, there's a bunch.

00:50:41.000 But I'll read them.

00:50:42.000 And the current poll says, who is right, Candace?

00:50:45.000 I'm sorry, who is right, Crowder or DW?

00:50:46.000 74% say Crowder, 26% say Daily Wire.

00:50:49.000 But let's talk about Alec Baldwin.

00:50:50.000 We have this story from Vanity Fair.

00:50:52.000 Let me just say at the start of this segment, ladies and gentlemen, I believe I called it!

00:50:58.000 And I had people telling me I was crazy and telling me I was wrong.

00:51:01.000 He's going to be charged with involuntary manslaughter, so is the armorer. 0.55

00:51:06.000 Another guy, the assistant director I think, took a plea bargain, plea deal for negligent discharge of a firearm.

00:51:13.000 But let me tell you why I said I called it.

00:51:15.000 There's a very important part in this story.

00:51:21.000 Vanity Fair says, In addition to the bullet that killed Hutchins, Alec Baldwin, as you know, was on the set of a movie called Rust.

00:51:31.000 He was using a real gun in the filming, aimed it at the cinematographer during filming, pulled the hammer back, pulled the trigger, shooting her in the chest, penetrating her body and hitting another guy in the shoulder.

00:51:44.000 Everybody was arguing whether it was an accident, how could the bullet have gotten the gun.

00:51:47.000 I made the argument that we had learned.

00:51:50.000 Alec Baldwin was in a dispute.

00:51:52.000 I should say, the execs of the movie production, the higher-ups, which includes Alec Baldwin, were in dispute with the crew.

00:51:57.000 The crew was threatening to walk off set.

00:51:59.000 There was animosity.

00:52:00.000 Alec Baldwin said he was friends with her, then he said they weren't friends, they didn't know each other.

00:52:04.000 He had a dinner with her, sounded like they were friends, or was it negotiations?

00:52:09.000 He also said in an interview that she was very forceful, I can't remember the word he used, and she kept telling him to do things over and over again.

00:52:15.000 It sounded like he was venting frustrations.

00:52:17.000 About Helena?

00:52:18.000 About Helena.

00:52:18.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:52:19.000 Right, and so I said, that sounds to me like motive.

00:52:23.000 Motive, what is it?

00:52:24.000 Your crew is threatening to walk off set, costing you money, and Helena Hutchins was doing what cinematographers aren't supposed to do, giving you direction.

00:52:32.000 That he seemed annoyed by, my personal opinion, but it's something he expressed.

00:52:36.000 Opportunity.

00:52:37.000 He had a gun, a real gun, that was supposed to be pointed, not at a human being.

00:52:43.000 This is against the rules in any movie set, you never point a gun at a person no matter what.

00:52:46.000 This is against the rules.

00:52:47.000 Ever.

00:52:47.000 Always.

00:52:48.000 In shooting.

00:52:49.000 Unless you're intending to destroy it.

00:52:52.000 Howard Baldwin lied and said he never pulled the trigger.

00:52:54.000 It just went off.

00:52:55.000 That's impossible.

00:52:55.000 It was a single action revolver.

00:52:57.000 Hammer has to be pulled back.

00:52:58.000 Trigger has to be pulled.

00:52:59.000 Get this.

00:53:00.000 Vanity Fair reports, in addition to the bullet that killed Hutchins, investigators found five

00:53:05.000 additional live rounds of ammunition mingled among the movie's props and costumes.

00:53:09.000 Two loose .45 caliber bullets were discovered on top of a prop cart.

00:53:13.000 A third was in a bandolier worn by Jensen Ackles.

00:53:16.000 A fourth was in a gun belt worn by Baldwin.

00:53:22.000 And a fifth was found in a box of dummy ammo.

00:53:24.000 Entirely possible.

00:53:25.000 With Gutierrez-Reid's fingerprints on it, they say.

00:53:27.000 It's entirely possible someone mistook the live ammo that was lying around for dummies, put them in the box, Hannah Gutierrez-Reid pulled the dummy rounds out of the box, didn't realize, loaded the gun, and that's what happened.

00:53:40.000 Entirely possible.

00:53:41.000 But when you factor all these things together, Alec Baldwin had live ammo on his belt, had the gun, pointed it at her, and shot and killed her.

00:53:52.000 I don't understand how anybody would argue that it's more likely it was an accident when it's like, he was mad at her because of the crew walk-offs, potentially, he pointed the gun at her, He shot her, and he had live ammo on his person.

00:54:08.000 So it's like, if we were going to ask someone, Occam's Razor, in the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be the correct one.

00:54:16.000 How did the bullets get in the gun?

00:54:18.000 Well, you see what happened was, somebody was doing target practice with the gun, and they left bullets outside.

00:54:22.000 One day, a crew member was cleaning up the bullets and didn't realize they were alive, so they put them back in the box.

00:54:26.000 The box was then placed in the cabinet, Hannah Goodyear is not realizing this, grabbed the box, opened it up, pulled the bolts out, put them in the gun, handed it to the AD, who didn't check it, and then handed it to Alec Baldwin, who didn't check it, and then it went off on accident.

00:54:37.000 Or, Alec Baldwin didn't like the lady, took a bullet from his own belt that had bullets in it, and shot her.

00:54:42.000 Which one is the conspiracy theory and which one is the simple solution?

00:54:47.000 Sorry man, I just... he had a bullet on his belt.

00:54:50.000 Okay, that's... there were live bullets found all over the place or like five of them

00:54:54.000 makes me... gives me some reasonable doubt that maybe he didn't know what was... he wasn't the

00:54:58.000 one that was ring leading this, that someone went in there.

00:55:00.000 And also, I do agree that he didn't like Helena Hutchins. I think...

00:55:03.000 I felt like she was probably playing the alpha role and he felt emasculated.

00:55:06.000 He's like, I'm supposed to.

00:55:07.000 But she was treating him like an actor.

00:55:08.000 You're doing what I say.

00:55:09.000 Get this done.

00:55:10.000 We're doing the shot.

00:55:10.000 He's like, I'm the producer.

00:55:12.000 I'm in charge. 0.88

00:55:13.000 So he was like, bang, bang, you're dead. 0.92

00:55:14.000 Like a perpetual child. 0.91

00:55:16.000 Bang, bang. 0.99

00:55:17.000 Yeah, like playing cowboys and Indians when he was a little kid.

00:55:20.000 Yeah, bang! 0.99

00:55:20.000 And he's like just fantasizing about killing her and it turned out there someone had loaded his gun 0.99

00:55:24.000 Yeah, I mean I want to be clear. He's not being tried for murder. He's being tried for manslaughter

00:55:27.000 So that they they have felt that after examining the evidence that he did this by accident

00:55:32.000 And what you're alleging is that maybe it wasn't so much of an accident and he actually didn't like her

00:55:37.000 I can't get over the fact we pointed the gun at a human being so important to say

00:55:41.000 This is not a rule on set This is a rule always and maybe in New York City where

00:55:44.000 people don't know anything about guns He knows things a thing or two about guns. He's been in

00:55:48.000 plenty of movies It's I mean, it doesn't really nothing

00:55:52.000 No I cannot go over the fact that he did not know that you

00:55:54.000 should never under any Circumstances unless you are actually actively trying to

00:55:59.000 kill a human that walked in, you know broke into your homes attacking your children

00:56:02.000 Do you ever point a gun whether it is loaded or completely empty at a human being ever? 1.00

00:56:07.000 Ever.

00:56:08.000 Literally, if you're walking through the forest and you're about to go on a hunt, you never, ever, not even in joke, in jest, ever, are supposed to even put... You're supposed to keep it down at all times, right?

00:56:17.000 Yeah, treat every firearm like it's loaded.

00:56:21.000 That is just a known rule.

00:56:22.000 I even point imaginary guns down when I'm pretending to be a guy with a gun.

00:56:26.000 Yeah, he knew that.

00:56:27.000 There's just no way that he didn't know that.

00:56:29.000 But look what the media said.

00:56:30.000 The media ran to his defense.

00:56:33.000 They were saying that... He is the media.

00:56:36.000 Right.

00:56:36.000 They came out and they were like, this is a horrible, tragic accident, and they didn't bother asking any questions.

00:56:41.000 They didn't bother investigating.

00:56:42.000 And if we had a fair media from the get-go, the first thing that should have happened is there was fighting on the set.

00:56:49.000 Alec Baldwin was unhappy, extremely frustrated.

00:56:51.000 He is known for having a temper. 0.99

00:56:53.000 He's crazy. 0.99

00:56:53.000 He's known for striking people. 0.99

00:56:55.000 Screaming at his own daughter called like a fat pig and like he's crazy. 1.00

00:56:59.000 This man is obviously unhinged. 1.00

00:57:00.000 He's completely and utterly unhinged There's no question, but it doesn't matter actually in Hollywood if you're unhinged the better right Chrissy Teigen Alec. 0.97

00:57:07.000 Well, these people have told you a thousand times that they are mentally unstable angry people and yet the media goes He's funny. 0.86

00:57:14.000 Let's put him in sentence.

00:57:15.000 They celebrate him.

00:57:17.000 They prop them up all the time, especially the more crazier that they are, the more the media loves them, which is actually a perfect representation.

00:57:24.000 He was also very outspoken against gun rights activists and now here he is in this particular situation.

00:57:30.000 I don't know what happened here.

00:57:31.000 A lot of people are speculating.

00:57:33.000 Let's see what's going to happen through this court case.

00:57:36.000 Obviously, if this happened to a random Joe Schmo, there would have been charges a lot quicker. 0.54

00:57:41.000 The fact that there wasn't charges and the fact that there was so long, so much time in between this is a little fishy, but let's see what happens in the court of law.

00:57:49.000 Let's see what happens with the evidence.

00:57:51.000 Let's see who changed their story, who tried to cover something up because there's multiple stories, there's multiple things.

00:57:57.000 We don't know what happened.

00:57:58.000 Let's wait and see.

00:57:59.000 Are there more charges or is this the only charge?

00:58:01.000 There's two charges the jury can choose from.

00:58:03.000 One is five years in prison mandatory.

00:58:06.000 And I think he gets it.

00:58:07.000 Check this out.

00:58:08.000 He should get it.

00:58:09.000 They say, the first charge is simple involuntary manslaughter.

00:58:13.000 For this to be proved, there must be underlying negligence.

00:58:16.000 Under New Mexico law, involuntary manslaughter is a fourth-degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine.

00:58:22.000 It includes the misdemeanor charge of negligent use of a firearm.

00:58:25.000 Seems like a slap on the wrist.

00:58:26.000 The other charge is involuntary manslaughter in the commission of a lawful act.

00:58:30.000 This charge requires proof that there was more than simple negligence involved in the death.

00:58:35.000 It's also a 4th degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine.

00:58:38.000 However, this charge includes a firearm enhancement or added mandatory penalty because a firearm was involved.

00:58:46.000 The firearm enhancement makes the crime punishable by a mandatory 5 years in jail.

00:58:50.000 Based on the official narrative, Alec Baldwin should get the mandatory minimum.

00:58:54.000 I'm not a fan of mandatory minimums and I don't think justice will be served necessarily by sending Alec Baldwin to prison for 5 years, but based on the laws it stands, I'll tell you why I think he should go to jail for 5 years.

00:59:04.000 Negligence.

00:59:06.000 He was running the show.

00:59:07.000 He was the producer.

00:59:08.000 They were using the gun from the movie to shoot real bullets.

00:59:13.000 They knew there were negligent discharges on set.

00:59:16.000 That is... That says to me...

00:59:20.000 That they say it requires more than simple negligence.

00:59:23.000 Simple negligence, in my opinion, and maybe it's a legal term, so maybe I'm wrong, but my opinion on this is, if someone, unbeknownst to Alec Baldwin, was using live bullets, I'd say, look, Alec, he should have known where that gun was at all times, someone should have been in charge, so maybe it's not his fault that this happened.

00:59:45.000 But he knew there were negligent discharges.

00:59:49.000 Now it's not just simple negligence.

00:59:50.000 Now it's him being like, there's something more there.

00:59:54.000 You mean that, and I think you're saying that, prior to that negligent discharge, there were previous negligent discharges on set.

01:00:01.000 So he knew that there were some mistakes happening.

01:00:02.000 And you would think that after the first mistake, and you go, oh great, nobody died.

01:00:05.000 You would go, let's make sure that we button this up, as I am the producer of this, we need to button this up.

01:00:10.000 And again, I cannot say a thousand times over, if you're Trying to present the case for the prosecution here You're just going to say how many times has Alex been in a movie where there have been guns fired?

01:00:19.000 He knows this protocol He knows that you do not point a gun whether it is loaded or not at another human being not only point pointing would be negligent By the way, if he had hit her and it was a fake round, he would be negligent forget I mean pointing it is you just you just don't pull the trigger and point it and then pull the trigger and the last thing I want to say is that I think that in terms of the publicity surrounding this if he had instantly come out and said this is we are We feel so horrified.

01:00:44.000 We are so sorry.

01:00:45.000 I'm just devastated by this.

01:00:47.000 I'm just going away forever.

01:00:49.000 He has acted the part of such arrogance.

01:00:54.000 Anytime anybody asked a question, he was angry.

01:00:57.000 How dare you?

01:00:59.000 I'm Alec Baldwin.

01:01:00.000 The way that he has acted after this, as if he's done nothing wrong.

01:01:03.000 I mean, the first thing that his statement he rushes to make after these charges is total and complete miscarriage of justice.

01:01:10.000 It is this pompous nature that is really, for me, the nail in the coffin, and if I'm on that jury, I am moving to convict.

01:01:18.000 This is why I think, honestly, I don't know if I would, but let me say this.

01:01:21.000 The reason I say the five years in prison, just to elaborate, he knew there were negligent discharges.

01:01:27.000 Now you can argue, well, but it was simple negligence that he didn't correct that mistake, that he didn't lock things down.

01:01:32.000 That's what negligence is.

01:01:33.000 Uh-huh, yes.

01:01:34.000 Then he picked the gun up, pointed at her, and pulled the trigger.

01:01:37.000 So you want to talk about simple negligence, it would be The producer on set, not Alec Baldwin, who knew there were discharges and did nothing to correct that problem, he's responsible.

01:01:46.000 Oh, he pleaded.

01:01:47.000 He took a plea bargain for a negligent destructive weapon.

01:01:50.000 Alec Baldwin knew there was live ammo on set, had live ammo on his person, decided to take the gun knowing this, pointed at a woman, and pull the trigger.

01:01:59.000 Now, come on.

01:02:00.000 I would actually argue murder.

01:02:02.000 Passion, homicide, lower degree.

01:02:04.000 But we don't have it, right?

01:02:05.000 At the very least.

01:02:06.000 At the very least, you have to move to convict on the charges, and I can't see how a jury outside of being an Alec Baldwin fan does not actually move to convict him.

01:02:12.000 Actually, I'm going to change what I just said.

01:02:14.000 I want to clarify.

01:02:15.000 I think you're right.

01:02:16.000 If I was in the jury, and they said, you know, mandatory five years in jail, I might nullify that, but agree with him being charged.

01:02:24.000 I don't like mandatory minimums.

01:02:26.000 I don't think justice is served by sending them to prison for five years.

01:02:29.000 Like a year, like five years is not going to change what happened.

01:02:34.000 It's not going to change Alec Baldwin.

01:02:35.000 I think it would change Alec Baldwin.

01:02:37.000 Well, you're right.

01:02:38.000 It would change him.

01:02:39.000 I just don't think it would actually, like... He's a very angry, erratic, unstable man.

01:02:43.000 And I think some time alone in a cell with another big guy... The five years is a really long time.

01:02:49.000 They got yoga.

01:02:50.000 They probably put him in a nice prison.

01:02:51.000 I think that, yeah, it's a long enough time that it could change him.

01:02:54.000 Well, a lot of celebrities are just totally out of touch.

01:02:56.000 A lot of them are egomaniacs. 1.00

01:02:58.000 A lot of them are just sociopaths. 0.97

01:02:59.000 And as soon as this happened, he tried to, of course, put blame on anyone else but him.

01:03:04.000 The first thing he said is, quote, someone is responsible, but I know it is not me.

01:03:08.000 Yeah, that's a horrible thing.

01:03:09.000 Imagine you're this family.

01:03:11.000 This is somebody's mother.

01:03:12.000 I mean, think about this.

01:03:13.000 It's horrible.

01:03:14.000 The emotional trauma of this guy basically being like, I know he's going to prison, but we know it ain't me.

01:03:18.000 Exactly.

01:03:19.000 And then talking about this, he kind of alluded that he's the second victim here out of All of this, especially with some of the statements that he was making afterwards, which is absolutely just delusional, which shows you this kind of out-of-touch reality perspective that a lot of these very powerful people that are empowered by this seedy, I would even say satanic entertainment industry, the people that prop up are some of the worst human beings on the face of this earth, and sometimes they do deserve a big reality check, and I think this is maybe, but they're so far in the weeds, maybe could provide that.

01:03:49.000 Speaking of some of the worst human beings on the earth, we have this story about Al Gore.

01:03:55.000 Fox News says, Al Gore mocked as a clown for Davos rant on rainbombs, boiling oceans, and apocalyptic preacher.

01:04:03.000 Jimmy Filo reacts to Gore's climate warnings on Fox & Friends.

01:04:07.000 So, you guys see this?

01:04:09.000 When Al Gore basically goes off saying that it was a really unhinged rant.

01:04:15.000 I mean, bro, look.

01:04:16.000 I criticized Alex Jones a while, several years ago, because he went on, it was an old thing, I remember seeing him on C-SPAN or something, and they were like, ah, it's Alex Jones.

01:04:26.000 And then he immediately just turns to the camera and goes, people listen, they're coming for you! 0.90

01:04:30.000 And I'm like, but I'm like, when I show that to my mom, they immediately just be like, this guy's nuts.

01:04:36.000 It's like, so you gotta take the opportunity and approach people on their own terms.

01:04:40.000 On his own show, I think he's great when he goes off.

01:04:44.000 Al Gore, wanting to warn people of a billion climate refugees, going, the world's gonna end, it's gonna be raining bombs, the oceans are gonna boil and our homes are gonna sink!

01:04:54.000 I'm like, okay, crazy man, you know, calm down, go to sleep, let the adults talk.

01:05:01.000 What he says is, if there's a billion migrants all of a sudden, that chaos will ensue. 1.00

01:05:05.000 And he's right.

01:05:06.000 But what he's saying is that there will be a billion migrants.

01:05:09.000 So that's the thing where, like, I mean, what's the evidence, Al?

01:05:11.000 You said 20 years ago that, what, the world was ending in 10?

01:05:13.000 No, no, he said the ice caps are going to be melting by 2030 or something.

01:05:17.000 Yeah, and they should be, because we're exiting an ice age.

01:05:19.000 So the American population is going to decline.

01:05:20.000 It's actually gone up since he made these predictions.

01:05:23.000 We're still in an ice age, according to, I think it's Utah State.

01:05:26.000 People, because of the flood 13,000 years ago, 12,000, when the meteors impacted North America and this giant global flood, it looks like we're not in an ice age because the ice melted, but we're still in the ice age, just having this preliminary amount of it melted.

01:05:41.000 It's all gonna melt.

01:05:41.000 It's supposed to.

01:05:42.000 That's why the Earth is pouring iron into itself through the River of Blood in Antarctica.

01:05:46.000 It's getting ready to fertilize for all this new freshwater that's coming into it.

01:05:51.000 And we're pulling carbon out of the air.

01:05:53.000 Dude, we got the graphene revolution on the horizon.

01:05:55.000 This weirdo is like shaking about too much horse poop on the ground in 1900.

01:05:59.000 And there are a lot of solutions to a lot of the larger ecological and pollution problems that the world is dealing with, except for the real solutions are just being pushed away.

01:06:07.000 No one's really talking about those issues.

01:06:09.000 But when it comes to taxing people, regulating people, controlling their life, micromanaging every aspect of them, putting them in little Echo-friendly, sustainable neighborhoods that you can't leave and you can only walk and bike around 15 minutes anywhere in one direction.

01:06:23.000 When it comes to that, yeah, they love that.

01:06:25.000 And when it comes to Al Gore, he said in 2009 that the North Pole would be ice-free in the summer of 2013.

01:06:32.000 I don't think that happened there, buddy.

01:06:35.000 I think you were a little bit wrong.

01:06:36.000 This guy's a grifter, this guy's a shill, and it's important to note here, he made $330 million off of his green investment firm ever since losing to George W. Bush. 0.88

01:06:46.000 There's a lot of money in this grift, there's a lot of money in fear-mongering, and he knows this grift is being exposed, so he has to step it up.

01:06:53.000 He has to make this emotional trauma, this larger sign-up, as crazy as they can, so then Deutsche Bank, Bank of America, that were at Davos, They were also talking at the same time during this conference about, you know, we need to do all of our business based on carbon emissions.

01:07:06.000 We need to reboot capitalism.

01:07:09.000 We need a social credit score based on carbon.

01:07:11.000 We need to make sure everyone is reporting their own personal carbon.

01:07:14.000 This is nothing to do with the environment.

01:07:16.000 This is everything to do with the subjugation of the human race. 0.55

01:07:20.000 And it's plain as day.

01:07:22.000 Big money, big interest, big power trying to control you.

01:07:25.000 Sorry, Tammy, you had something to say.

01:07:27.000 I was going to say that what the left will come out and do is they'll say, no, no, no, no, Al Gore was right 20 years ago when he said it would be, you know, ice free by 2013.

01:07:36.000 But then we took action on climate change and it stopped it from happening.

01:07:40.000 That actually proves Al Gore was right the whole time.

01:07:42.000 I mean, I just would like to shout out, I do not know this person at all, but a book,

01:07:46.000 if you have a child that you want to make aware of the climate scam, which you are absolutely

01:07:51.000 correct about this subjugation of humanity, such an easy book, very short read.

01:07:55.000 It's called Inconvenient Facts and it's written by Gregory Whitestone and it will wake you

01:07:59.000 to the fact that the IPCC is just a corrupt industry.

01:08:03.000 Every single model that they ever have put out is wrong and they rely on people not understanding

01:08:07.000 just how old the earth is and that it goes through coldness.

01:08:10.000 I mean, there was a medieval warming period, followed by a freeze.

01:08:14.000 I mean, they're trying to actually make you think that weather is something to be fearful

01:08:18.000 of and that these things don't naturally happen, like forest fires.

01:08:21.000 They just naturally happen.

01:08:23.000 They've always happened since the beginning of time.

01:08:24.000 Things get hot.

01:08:25.000 I just came back from South Africa while we were there.

01:08:27.000 Just temperature hits in Africa, the bush burns.

01:08:30.000 And it's a good thing that it burns.

01:08:31.000 And so people, they rely on the ignorance of people that are widely emotional, which is why they start this sort of brainwash when you are in high school, when you are in middle school.

01:08:40.000 There's always a different scare and they've been wrong every time.

01:08:42.000 So if you still believe that there are some element of truth to this, just go talk to people in different generations and tell them what their big scare was.

01:08:48.000 I was Generation Global Warming.

01:08:50.000 We still had to watch a sad movie of polar bears drowning, and we're told that there were gonna be no polar bears left.

01:08:54.000 In fact, polar bear population has gone up since inconvenient facts.

01:08:57.000 Generation before us, they were told the exact opposite, that it was gonna be global cooling, they were all going to freeze to death, and then they were like, oh, got that one wrong, so we're gonna change to global warming.

01:09:04.000 There was the ozone layer.

01:09:05.000 Remember the hole in the ozone layer?

01:09:07.000 We were all gonna die, and then, oops, whoopsies, that didn't happen.

01:09:10.000 There was acid rain scare, where kids were taught that the oceans were gonna become so acidic, and it was gonna rain from the sky, and now it looks like, guys, it's promising. 0.99

01:09:17.000 moving on to rainbombs.

01:09:18.000 Can't bundle up and buy a good umbrella?

01:09:19.000 I'm going to start selling umbrellas.

01:09:20.000 Rainbomb umbrellas.

01:09:21.000 To be fair on the ozone thing, we literally did ban the CFCs or whatever.

01:09:27.000 So the ozone thing...

01:09:28.000 Fluorocarbons.

01:09:29.000 Yeah, the ozone thing was like, hey, if we keep using these, what is it, PFCs?

01:09:33.000 PFC, polyfluorocarbon, I think.

01:09:35.000 It was all in the deodorants and hairsprays and then they were banned.

01:09:38.000 That's a nuanced argument to understand that, but they've been trying to use this kind of fear-mongering environmental grift since the 50s.

01:09:43.000 And it's all about saying we need policies, we need the Paris Accord Agreement.

01:09:46.000 What we need to fix these things, if you're really scared, is more of your money.

01:09:50.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, Candice, but you don't understand.

01:09:53.000 If we give the government more money, the weather will be gooder.

01:09:55.000 Yeah, the weather will be gooder.

01:09:56.000 That's the basic principle that they work on, because there are actual things that we should address when it comes to this climate, when it comes to our environment, when it comes to pollution, especially when it comes from the developing world, especially when it comes from China dumping all of the plastic that Canada shipped to them.

01:10:12.000 There's also a lot of waste, a lot of destruction because of war.

01:10:16.000 And there's so much hypocrisy at the World Economic Forum, not Not just them flying on their private jets with record emissions, record number of jets, estimated 1,100 jets flying in there, but these are the same individuals that almost in the same breath are like, we need to make sure that there's not a peace deal with Ukraine and Russia.

01:10:33.000 That's what the UN Secretary said.

01:10:35.000 at Davos this year.

01:10:36.000 And in the same breath, they're like, but we need to make sure the environment's good.

01:10:39.000 One of the biggest polluters is, of course, the military-industrial complex.

01:10:42.000 And they're cheering it on.

01:10:44.000 They're calling for more war.

01:10:45.000 They're trying to deny every kind of peace deal.

01:10:47.000 They're trying to prolong it.

01:10:48.000 And this is the worst thing that you could possibly be doing.

01:10:52.000 Well, that's because they need more money. 0.57

01:10:53.000 Exactly.

01:10:54.000 They need the grip to keep going.

01:10:55.000 It's all about money.

01:10:56.000 Everything is always about money.

01:10:57.000 And it's the same people destroying the environment that are coming to you saying, just give us more money and we'll fix the environment.

01:11:03.000 In reality, those solutions do not work and create more problems.

01:11:06.000 And they fly private when they talk about it.

01:11:07.000 It's very important to get on your private jet to discuss Ukraine and also climate and everything doesn't make sense when it's put together. 0.70

01:11:14.000 It doesn't matter because you don't pay attention because you're supposed to be ignorant and not realize that literally all they want is money.

01:11:18.000 They will launch a new war and ruin the climate at the same time they're telling you that you've got to give them more money so they can save the climate.

01:11:24.000 I mean, it's stunning to me.

01:11:25.000 And people that get behind these initiatives over and over and over again, if you're really trying to discern what Big Con is, go find the people that back the military-industrial complex.

01:11:32.000 Go find the people that put a little Ukraine flag and told you that this was your duty to go out and defend Ukraine, to ask no questions about President Zelensky, who shut down that speech. 0.69

01:11:40.000 I find that to be absolutely ridiculous.

01:11:42.000 I've got to give a shout out to D.C. 0.65

01:11:43.000 Drano who called Kevin McCarthy Kievan you Karthi.

01:11:45.000 Yeah.

01:11:46.000 I have a pin.

01:11:49.000 Yeah, like a pin and a flag waving another country's flag.

01:11:53.000 I mean, I that to me if you want a marker of what real big con is go find out who supports Ukraine and to this day is 0.67

01:12:00.000 still back in Ukraine from day one.

01:12:02.000 I was like, this is so obviously the military industrial complex.

01:12:05.000 This makes no sense.

01:12:06.000 We know it's a corrupt country.

01:12:07.000 We know that it washes laundry.

01:12:09.000 Take it from the New York Times and Washington Post five years ago and they highlighted all of his ties to oligarchs.

01:12:14.000 We installed a new government and we intentionally went to war because they launder our money and of course Hunter Biden and president, we hopped in Afghanistan to get everybody home.

01:12:22.000 Takes one breath, tomorrow we're going to be in Ukraine.

01:12:25.000 I mean it's such obvious foolishness at this point and that there are people that are in our movement pretending that they're whether America first or if they care about you know what's happening to this country and then they support Ukraine.

01:12:36.000 Like goodbye dude, goodbye.

01:12:37.000 How do you support this?

01:12:38.000 And then there's FTX, right, that was working with the World Economic Forum, that was working with the Bank of Ukraine, that was laundering money, not only to, of course, high-level Democrats, but also Republicans.

01:12:48.000 All those politicians right now give back the people's money. 0.94

01:12:51.000 I don't understand why our justice system is not intervening in the FTX scandal and saying, hey, Mr. Biden or Mr. Crenshaw or Mr. whoever, you got this money.

01:13:03.000 This money was actually stolen from clients.

01:13:05.000 Let's make sure we give it back.

01:13:06.000 Why can't we have that conversation right now?

01:13:08.000 Well, I don't know if Crenshaw actually got the money.

01:13:10.000 I'm just naming a politician here.

01:13:12.000 So I don't know if it's Liz Cheney.

01:13:14.000 I don't know who it is.

01:13:14.000 But there was a fair amount of money, mostly given to Democrats, some to Republicans as well.

01:13:19.000 Whoever got that money, it was all through shadowy secret kind of black money that was given through different PACs and different organizations in order to kind of launder it specifically.

01:13:27.000 But there should be a national conversation right now being like, hey, people were robbed.

01:13:31.000 Let's give their money back right now.

01:13:33.000 That money is in the hands of corrupted politicians right now that were doing the bidding of corrupted organizations like FTX that the World Economic Forum endorsed and then deleted their endorsement of and tried to hit it away from the internet as they were promoting this larger Ponzi scam that stole people's money, which is absolutely insane.

01:13:50.000 I would advocate letting Sam Beckman Freed go free if he can pay back the $10 billion, and I know he can. 0.96

01:13:55.000 If you let him go free, they'll kill him.

01:13:56.000 Have you been following how many crypto billionaires are just kind of being killed? 0.99

01:14:00.000 He's a drugged-up puppet. 0.99

01:14:01.000 It's just insane. 1.00

01:14:02.000 I mean, it's insane.

01:14:03.000 They're dropping like flies.

01:14:04.000 I covered it on my show.

01:14:05.000 I mean, the mysterious death of all of these crypto billionaires and millionaires.

01:14:07.000 What about that guy who tweeted, like, they're running an entire money laundering thing in Puerto Rico, right off of Epstein Island 2.0. 0.70

01:14:15.000 It's a pedophile ring, blah, blah, blah, blah, and he said, and they're going to kill me.

01:14:19.000 Four hours later, found in the ocean with full clothes on in his wallet. 0.99

01:14:23.000 Guess he just went for a swim and ended up with a bullet in the back of his head.

01:14:26.000 Exactly.

01:14:27.000 Like, literally within four hours.

01:14:28.000 What?

01:14:29.000 That's my suicide?

01:14:29.000 It's insane.

01:14:29.000 I covered it all on my show.

01:14:31.000 And he literally said, they're going to kill me.

01:14:33.000 And it's always the same.

01:14:34.000 It's a mysterious drowning.

01:14:37.000 In Puerto Rico.

01:14:37.000 He was in the Caribbean when this happened.

01:14:38.000 Four hours later, after his last tweet, he was dead.

01:14:41.000 And he's one of five, I think five or six billionaires that have died in the last two years under these unbelievably mysterious circumstances.

01:14:48.000 I mean, if you haven't listened to that episode of my show, just to kind of shout myself out, it's actually the most popular episode that I've released recently.

01:14:54.000 It's called The Mysterious Death of Crypto Billionaires.

01:14:57.000 It's insane.

01:14:58.000 It's insane.

01:14:58.000 And that is what we should be talking about.

01:15:00.000 There's something very dangerous going on, and to your credit, way more important than anything we're talking about with Steven Crowder.

01:15:09.000 It's around the world.

01:15:10.000 It's everywhere.

01:15:11.000 Let's jump to the story from timcast.com.

01:15:13.000 European Commission VP says US will soon impose hate speech laws.

01:15:17.000 And it seems like a simple statement, and it's easy to shrug off, but going to the bigger context in the previous segment, we're talking about these evil people, their plans.

01:15:27.000 You got Brian Stelter.

01:15:28.000 Sitting on stage with these people and they say, soon the U.S.

01:15:32.000 will have, you know, will make hate speech illegal.

01:15:35.000 To them hate speech is opinions they disagree with.

01:15:37.000 Hate speech is disinformation.

01:15:39.000 And what's happening is are these Davos elite types are infiltrating big tech.

01:15:43.000 They're infiltrating elements of the government.

01:15:45.000 And they're imposing these insane rules, not through law, I don't necessarily know if anytime soon they'll make it illegal.

01:15:52.000 They'll make it impossible.

01:15:54.000 Said a bad word, as everybody knows, your car won't start.

01:15:57.000 You can't buy, your credit card gets turned off.

01:16:00.000 We've already seen it happen.

01:16:01.000 How many people have been debanked?

01:16:03.000 Bad opinions?

01:16:05.000 No more bank for you.

01:16:05.000 That's insane.

01:16:07.000 Yeah, so these are the people who are meeting in these big meetings.

01:16:10.000 They're bringing people like Brian Stelter.

01:16:12.000 They're bringing Democrat politicians to sit down and say they want to control what you see, think, and hear.

01:16:18.000 Joe Manchin was at Davos making arguments against the open press.

01:16:24.000 Right?

01:16:24.000 Like, what's wrong with the freaking open press?

01:16:28.000 Tony Blair was openly talking about, we need an international vaccine passport system where we track people's medical records and allow them to go places and not places.

01:16:39.000 Where we track their heart attacks that they're having.

01:16:42.000 Exactly.

01:16:44.000 Yes.

01:16:44.000 I could say a lot more.

01:16:47.000 There was also another member of a big tech company talking about how he welcomes the FBI involvement with specifically Cloudflare.

01:16:56.000 The CEO of Cloudflare came out and says that he welcomes guidance from the FBI.

01:17:00.000 So there's a reason why the FBI director also attends Davos as well.

01:17:05.000 there's a reason why they have a lot of public meetings, but they also have a lot of secret

01:17:09.000 meetings as well. And obviously one hand, what's the saying here? One hand washes the other hand

01:17:17.000 And there's a collective interest here of a lot of these powerful power brokers essentially just saying, you know, you help me, I help you, but we're going to make sure that we come out on top when we get to essentially take all of people's liberties and financial freedoms away from them.

01:17:33.000 And that's the game here.

01:17:34.000 That's the con here.

01:17:36.000 It's clear as day.

01:17:37.000 And they're using these kind of bland, generalized language to get away with it.

01:17:41.000 Well, the reason they get away with it, more importantly, though, and this is why the most important conversation when people say, what do we do to correct it?

01:17:47.000 It's the education battle. 1.00

01:17:48.000 Because the reason is because we're producing too many stupid people. 1.00

01:17:51.000 right? Who cannot think through these policies. And this is when you go, what is happening on 1.00

01:17:55.000 college campuses? Why are we having debates about why are there gender studies majors? 1.00

01:17:58.000 This is a true fact. We've never put, we've never given out more degrees in America ever,

01:18:03.000 and yet we've never produced dumber kids. I mean, literally dumber kids. I'm talking about if you 0.99

01:18:07.000 sat them down with an IQ test, these kids are actually dumb. 1.00

01:18:09.000 So how is that possible? That should run in conflict with one another. How are we giving 1.00

01:18:13.000 the most degrees and producing the dumbest Because it's a concert effort by the government because they understand you want to talk about real slavery. 0.97

01:18:20.000 Slaves, I wrote this in my book, another free pitch for myself, Blackout. 0.97

01:18:24.000 I wrote this in my book, but my thesis is that what they're basically doing is modernizing the slave plantation.

01:18:29.000 Right?

01:18:30.000 You can't now take people into chains, but what was one element of a slave plantation?

01:18:33.000 Well, it was that slaves weren't allowed to learn how to read.

01:18:35.000 These were called slave clothes.

01:18:36.000 So what better way than to make people think that they're learning how to read, but they're learning nothing.

01:18:40.000 They're learning, be scared the planet's gonna be dead in 10 years.

01:18:43.000 Men can be women, women can be men.

01:18:44.000 I have a degree!

01:18:45.000 I'm so smart!

01:18:46.000 So they come out super arrogant, convinced they know everything, and they quite literally, if you dropped them off in a forest, they'd all be dead in a week, right?

01:18:53.000 They literally know nothing.

01:18:54.000 This is all a part of the big plan, right? 1.00

01:18:56.000 The idea is to produce dumb people intentionally. 0.99

01:18:59.000 And think about this. 0.99

01:19:00.000 We hear from people like Bill Gates and a lot of these Davos types where it's, you know, we got to reduce population growth.

01:19:05.000 We see a lot of actions taken that not only reduce population but also stagnate the economy.

01:19:11.000 Think about what happens if you've got someone who works in a foundry.

01:19:14.000 You know, they're like, you know, they're making, let's just say, let's just say widgets.

01:19:17.000 They're smelting metal and doing all that stuff.

01:19:19.000 And then along comes a college grad with a degree in gender studies.

01:19:23.000 Adding a DEI specialist to the foundry serves only one purpose.

01:19:28.000 It slows the economic activity.

01:19:30.000 It causes internal conflict, which damages their ability to produce.

01:19:35.000 Either the United States is being destroyed for this reason, or with this tactic, or It is inadvertently being destroyed by this tactic.

01:19:43.000 This is where gender studies and Black Lives Matter and the race initiatives lock arms. 0.94

01:19:47.000 Right?

01:19:47.000 Oh, now you should hire talent based on the color of their skin.

01:19:50.000 Where's your diversity and inclusion department?

01:19:52.000 What is that doing?

01:19:53.000 Right?

01:19:53.000 It's counterintuitive to the free market.

01:19:54.000 It's counterintuitive to businesses that are growing and becoming productive.

01:19:56.000 It's to hire people that know absolutely nothing. 0.93

01:19:58.000 But I got to have this whole department with 10 people that are hired because one's black, one's gay, and that means that I'm a good business. 0.96

01:20:06.000 And people are losing money. 0.77

01:20:07.000 Because, obviously, this is not a sound economic model.

01:20:10.000 And so, this is much more Machiavellian. 1.00

01:20:12.000 People say that the left is stupid. 1.00

01:20:14.000 Oh, they think men can be men. 1.00

01:20:15.000 Yeah, the people that listen to the left, you can maybe challenge it. 0.99

01:20:18.000 They're actually not even stupid. 1.00

01:20:19.000 They're brainwashed. 1.00

01:20:20.000 It's not really their fault. 0.55

01:20:21.000 Brainwash is real.

01:20:22.000 Propaganda is real.

01:20:23.000 It has real effects, especially when it's taking place in the classroom where they're spending six hours a day. 1.00

01:20:27.000 They're not even stupid. 1.00

01:20:28.000 They're brainwashed. 1.00

01:20:29.000 You should sympathize rather than call them stupid. 1.00

01:20:32.000 But the people at the top that are producing this, that want this to happen. 1.00

01:20:36.000 This is Machiavellian. 0.99

01:20:37.000 These people are insane. 1.00

01:20:38.000 They're psychopaths and they know exactly what they're doing. 0.99

01:20:41.000 That's what something I thought while you were saying, explaining it earlier, is that what's more dangerous than having a group of uneducated people is having a group of miseducated people that have been educated for nefarious purposes.

01:20:51.000 Because it's harder to untrain the brain than it is to give it something new.

01:20:54.000 Especially when you give it a degree.

01:20:56.000 Because when you give it a degree, what you're giving them is they think they're smart.

01:20:59.000 Oh my gosh!

01:21:01.000 The number one thing that the left says to me is, well, you didn't even graduate college.

01:21:06.000 That's their, okay, so let me get this straight.

01:21:08.000 I'm doing better than you, I have a larger audience, but you have a little paper degree.

01:21:13.000 So they go out and those people then get really angry because they tried that degree.

01:21:17.000 In a free market society, they have no success and they become bitter, angry, resentful, perfect little leftists that will march in the street talking about how this entire system needs to be burned to the ground because how do they not become successful when they have a degree?

01:21:30.000 You know what I like to say, because they do this to me all the time, they'll tweet like, yeah, see, this proves Tim's a high school dropout, or don't listen to me, he's a high school dropout.

01:21:38.000 Did you drop out of high school?

01:21:39.000 Yeah.

01:21:40.000 And my response is, your high school diploma and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee.

01:21:45.000 It should be $3, but thanks to the way you voted, it's now $5 for a cup of coffee.

01:21:50.000 It's the number one thing.

01:21:51.000 It gives them this inflated ego.

01:21:53.000 They actually think, even though their entire life tells them they're a remarkable failure, but I have a degree!

01:21:58.000 It's like my guy.

01:22:00.000 Oh, okay.

01:22:01.000 Be humble.

01:22:01.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:03.000 Look, I don't expect everybody in the world to be a millionaire.

01:22:05.000 I don't expect everybody to have a six-figure salary.

01:22:07.000 If you're somebody who works an honest job and says, you know, look, I did everything they told me to do.

01:22:11.000 If someone came to me and said, look, man, I went to college, I got my degree, I worked really hard, and I make $35,000 a year as an administrative assistant, I'd be like, You know, look, man, I'll try and give you some advice and help you out.

01:22:23.000 Just be humble.

01:22:24.000 We're trying to help you out.

01:22:25.000 I don't think it's society's fault.

01:22:28.000 I'm sorry, I don't think it's the individual's fault that they were lied to by the machine and tricking them into getting student loan debts and all that stuff.

01:22:34.000 But if you come out and you're like, I'm so much smarter than you because I finished high school.

01:22:38.000 I make $30,000 a year.

01:22:39.000 I'll be like, my guy.

01:22:43.000 You just say, yes, you are.

01:22:44.000 That's right.

01:22:45.000 Yes, you are.

01:22:46.000 Hey, what the Rockefeller family did when it came to shaping modern education was pretty smart, was pretty brilliant.

01:22:53.000 They made a lot of good factory workers that regurgitate and repeat everything they're told to repeat.

01:22:57.000 They follow all the orders.

01:22:59.000 They make sure that they get the job done for the boss.

01:23:02.000 And what else did you think was going to happen?

01:23:04.000 Which brings us to Big Pharma.

01:23:04.000 If you're going to talk about Rockefeller, you have to mention Big Pharma.

01:23:07.000 Right?

01:23:08.000 You literally have doctors that are graduating Harvard right now.

01:23:10.000 I cover this on my podcast this week.

01:23:12.000 They are graduating Harvard and they believe that children are born with the ability to pick their gender.

01:23:18.000 I mean, like they're talking about infants right now.

01:23:20.000 I cover this on my show.

01:23:21.000 Infants, they believe, have within them, possess within them the knowledge to know that they're in the wrong body.

01:23:26.000 Right?

01:23:27.000 I have an infant.

01:23:30.000 An infant knows absolutely nothing.

01:23:32.000 These people now are convinced that they're brighter than you because they're a doctor and they became a doctor because they graduated from Harvard.

01:23:41.000 I know you went to university. 1.00

01:23:43.000 You have to go to university to be that dumb. 1.00

01:23:45.000 Nowadays, you have to spend four years in school to be this stupid. 1.00

01:23:48.000 I can't remember this, but my mom tells people that when I was little, when asked what I wanted to be when I grew up, I would say a pumpkin. 0.98

01:23:57.000 Because, like, being a little kid who doesn't understand concepts of, like, reality, jobs, or otherwise, I was like, I don't remember saying that, but, I mean, it sounds like something a three-year-old would say.

01:24:06.000 Is that why you started this company?

01:24:07.000 I wanted to be a pumpkin, that's it.

01:24:08.000 Just research and development?

01:24:09.000 We'll get there.

01:24:10.000 In the basement.

01:24:11.000 We're already there.

01:24:11.000 You can identify as a pumpkin.

01:24:14.000 Oh, you're right.

01:24:15.000 We can tattoo you, Pink. 0.86

01:24:16.000 You were so smart!

01:24:17.000 You were so ahead of your time!

01:24:18.000 We've got a genetics lab in the basement, and all of your super chats, all of your TimCast membership go into DNA manipulation to convert human cells into pumpkin cells.

01:24:30.000 Whaling pumpkin human chimeras.

01:24:32.000 The noise keeps me up at night.

01:24:34.000 I just tell myself they're chickens.

01:24:35.000 Yo, but like a little kid doesn't know anything.

01:24:37.000 I'm joking, by the way.

01:24:38.000 Infant?

01:24:39.000 They believe in infant? 0.51

01:24:39.000 No, I mean, it's crazy. 0.51

01:24:41.000 It is crazy.

01:24:42.000 What's happening?

01:24:42.000 Are they being told that at Harvard while they're learning?

01:24:44.000 They're learning it in a book.

01:24:45.000 That's a problem.

01:24:46.000 If you want to trick a person that is a student, an academic, put it in a book.

01:24:51.000 Literally, it's incredible to me.

01:24:52.000 This goes to the Sam Harris thing.

01:24:53.000 I don't know if you guys are friends with him.

01:24:55.000 Please go back and find Sam Harris in our little debate on Twitter.

01:24:59.000 The things that he called me.

01:25:01.000 You know why?

01:25:02.000 Because Sam Harris has a degree.

01:25:03.000 And then it was literally the funniest conversation ever.

01:25:06.000 Dave Rubin tried to be like, oh, two people that I'm friends with, I don't want them fighting.

01:25:09.000 You guys should get on the phone.

01:25:11.000 This is to Dave Rubin's credit, by the way.

01:25:13.000 And he gives Sam Harris my number.

01:25:14.000 He calls me.

01:25:14.000 This is the day that they announced that COVID's happening and things are going to shut down.

01:25:18.000 I'm in Texas.

01:25:18.000 I'm about to go to an event.

01:25:19.000 And he sounds like he's in an effing bunker. 0.99

01:25:21.000 He sounded like a crazy person. 0.96

01:25:24.000 He's like, you don't understand. 0.94

01:25:26.000 This thing's going to get really bad.

01:25:27.000 I spoke to my doctors.

01:25:29.000 I know doctors that are in Italy.

01:25:31.000 In two weeks, there's going to be gurneys in the streets.

01:25:33.000 Nobody's going to be able to go anywhere.

01:25:35.000 Candice, please, you have to be responsible with your platform.

01:25:38.000 You need to encourage people to get inside.

01:25:41.000 Talk about a conversation I should have recorded, right?

01:25:43.000 It was stunning.

01:25:45.000 He went crazy. 1.00

01:25:46.000 And then he went on other podcasts and he called me, I mean, a categorical imbecile, all these things. 0.99

01:25:52.000 You know why? 0.97

01:25:53.000 Because he went and he got a degree and he called his doctor friends and his doctor friends all said they understood this thing because they were reading what was in a book and now they were reading studies.

01:26:01.000 It's like all you have to do to trick an academic is to put it in a book.

01:26:05.000 And it becomes magically real, and they suspend their ability to think critically because that's what too much schooling does.

01:26:11.000 It suspends your ability to think critically because your job at these university campuses is to remember information, not to regurgitate information.

01:26:18.000 It's not to think quickly and go, wait a second, this justifies common sense.

01:26:22.000 They just go, oh, but it's right here.

01:26:26.000 But more importantly, it's also to follow the hierarchy.

01:26:29.000 So if there's a boss, if there's someone paying you, if there's like a Bill Gates creating something like the Bill Chill in the scientific community, you cannot criticize that because if you do, you're going to get your funding cut from you.

01:26:39.000 And people don't understand, especially when it comes to American history, there have been so many horrors in American history that have been done through doctors, whether it was the Tuskegee experiments, the MKUltra experiments, Operation Sea Spray.

01:26:52.000 That's another one that a lot of people The DDT poisoning.

01:26:54.000 Which became the MMR vaccine somehow.

01:26:56.000 The secret government poisoning of San Francisco residents with plutonium.

01:27:02.000 There's also the forced sterilization that has happened all throughout this country since the 1900s all the way up to 2010.

01:27:09.000 The Florida in our water right now.

01:27:12.000 That makes no effing sense scientifically.

01:27:14.000 The worst horrors that humanity faced were rubber stamped by doctors that were following orders and just doing what they were told.

01:27:21.000 Hey, tell me real quick, what's the Operation Sea Spray?

01:27:24.000 Operation Sea Spray is when the U.S.

01:27:25.000 government was doing a bioweapons experiment on San Francisco in the 1950s.

01:27:30.000 Wow!

01:27:31.000 Was that when they were spraying or something on people?

01:27:34.000 Secret in which Serratia... 0.70

01:27:37.000 Marcus Senns and Bacillus globigii bacteria were sprayed over San Francisco Bay Area in California to determine how vulnerable a city like San Francisco may be to bioweapon attack.

01:27:48.000 Exactly.

01:27:49.000 That's 1950.

01:27:49.000 1950.

01:27:49.000 That's like right after the military industrial complex got formed.

01:27:52.000 This is all the stuff that we know about.

01:27:54.000 So this is what the secret agencies, what the federal government was doing decades and decades ago.

01:27:58.000 There's probably still a bunch of stuff that we don't know about today, but the sterilization aspect is one of the biggest because it continued all the way up to 2010 when Californian women prisoners, without their knowledge, were being sterilized by the government.

01:28:13.000 So this has been happening for a very long time.

01:28:15.000 There's a lot of eugenicists out there.

01:28:16.000 There's a lot of people that believe that there's too many people in this world, and they have created so many horrors that need to be addressed and rectified.

01:28:23.000 And this is public knowledge?

01:28:24.000 Imagine what's secret.

01:28:25.000 Do you guys know about the Humanzee?

01:28:28.000 No.

01:28:29.000 Sounds like a human chimpanzee.

01:28:31.000 That's right.

01:28:31.000 And so it's, you know, if you read about it, they'll tell you it's it's hypothesized.

01:28:37.000 There's urban legends about it.

01:28:39.000 But I'm sorry, man.

01:28:41.000 If you think that the various governments of the world did not try to create chimeric human hybrids and other weird nonsense, then you're naive. 0.91

01:28:51.000 Now, Alex Jones coming out and saying they're making cow people and stuff may be a stretch too far, but there's an old story about, apparently the urban legend is that, and maybe it's just history, in the Soviet Union, they were taking human women and inseminating them with chimp semen, because you can't do it the other way around because chimps are too small.

01:29:10.000 A female chimp can't carry a human baby, it's too big. 1.00

01:29:13.000 But a human female can carry a human Z because it's smaller and so they were like offering women money or just forcefully doing this. 0.99

01:29:19.000 You think the United States isn't doing anything like that?

01:29:22.000 They're definitely doing something.

01:29:24.000 Funding it and then having it done in China.

01:29:26.000 They're doing it times 10.

01:29:30.000 I guess we'll wait till we're behind.

01:29:35.000 Total big con move, but like a lot I want to say about the vaccine.

01:29:38.000 And by the way, I said a lot of stuff about the vaccine publicly on my show.

01:29:40.000 I mean, I, you guys know, I do not vax my children.

01:29:43.000 I am like, I think maybe the only vocally person that says proudly.

01:29:48.000 Everything you just said, ditto.

01:29:49.000 We actually do have a story we can talk about in the Members Only Show that Luke was bringing up, which will be really interesting, and there's a lot more we can add.

01:29:54.000 like thank you, I have to help these children and the entire world, I was injured by a vaccine,

01:29:58.000 you're not going to gaslight me against an injury that I suffered.

01:30:01.000 Everything you just said, ditto.

01:30:03.000 Well, we actually do have a story we can talk about in the Members Only Show that Luke was bringing up,

01:30:07.000 which will be really interesting, and there's a lot more we can add to it.

01:30:08.000 Yeah, about, you know, Bumpstock Donnie there, but that's a separate-

01:30:11.000 Bumpstock Donnie?

01:30:12.000 That's a separate subject there, but- But again, human experimentation has been done by so many high-level government officials, and what they're doing right now, we can't even imagine.

01:30:22.000 And it's not just being done in Ukraine with the specific gain-of-function research that they're doing there.

01:30:28.000 It's not just being done in China.

01:30:29.000 It's being done domestically.

01:30:30.000 There's a lot of things that, again, we could get into the weeds.

01:30:33.000 We could go down the rabbit hole, especially when it comes to Lyme disease, Agent Orange, gay bombs. 1.00

01:30:37.000 I want to hear about how DDT, you mentioned it was led to the MMR vaccine.

01:30:44.000 Yeah, I mean the DDT scam, people, if you want to really start learning about vaccines, it all begins with people believing that polio was eradicated.

01:30:50.000 And LOL, if you're starting level, is you think that polio was eradicated.

01:30:54.000 There's so much that people have to understand about vaccines.

01:30:57.000 I am now of very formed opinion that I believe that there is a true government war on fertility They want to own the means of fertility.

01:31:04.000 And this is happening in the classroom with convincing women when we're 13 to get on birth control pills and telling you there's no effect. 0.69

01:31:10.000 There's no effect to me taking hormones every single day.

01:31:12.000 That's crazy.

01:31:12.000 Really?

01:31:13.000 There's going to be no effect to me taking hormone pills every... How stupid? 1.00

01:31:16.000 I mean, again, common sense, but I read it. 1.00

01:31:19.000 I read it a book.

01:31:21.000 There's a sterilization program being run right now against the people of this world and many people don't even realize it.

01:31:28.000 And I just want to add too, just to stop and think about how crazy it is that we mass hormonally medicate females in this country. 1.00

01:31:35.000 And mass.

01:31:36.000 And there are people I know that women who are said like... I don't touch it. 1.00

01:31:39.000 I never touched it.

01:31:40.000 I had a bad feeling about it in my gut when I was 13.

01:31:42.000 And every time I went to the doctor, like if I was like, oh, my head hurts, they'd be like, birth control.

01:31:46.000 I was like, oh, like my belly hurts.

01:31:47.000 They're like, birth control.

01:31:48.000 I'm like, oh, I have a cramp.

01:31:50.000 They're like, birth control.

01:31:51.000 I'm like, OK, well, this can't be like an all catch pill.

01:31:53.000 Why are you trying to try to get me on birth control pill?

01:31:55.000 And I just thank God I had that spiritual discernment when I was like, this is weird.

01:31:59.000 This is weird.

01:32:00.000 It is weird.

01:32:01.000 It destroys women for the rest of their lives. 1.00

01:32:02.000 It's absolutely horrible.

01:32:04.000 Let's go to Super Chats and read.

01:32:07.000 I want to read just one very important Super Chat right away from Daniel A. He said, Ironic Crowder was on Arthur and now he's fighting with DW.

01:32:14.000 I posted that on Twitter yesterday.

01:32:18.000 I did not miss that.

01:32:19.000 I was a huge, by the way, I was a huge Arthur fan when I was a kid.

01:32:22.000 Arthur's awesome.

01:32:23.000 When you were a kid.

01:32:24.000 That's why I'm really sad about this.

01:32:25.000 Dude, I watched Arthur up until they cancelled it.

01:32:27.000 I loved it.

01:32:27.000 Not really.

01:32:28.000 I mean, I'd watch it if it was on right now.

01:32:29.000 I'd just jump off and just watch it.

01:32:30.000 It's a great show.

01:32:31.000 It's a good show.

01:32:31.000 It's my middle name.

01:32:32.000 Arthur.

01:32:32.000 It's a great show.

01:32:33.000 It's the only reason I knew what an aardvark was.

01:32:34.000 Let's be honest.

01:32:35.000 I like Arthur.

01:32:36.000 So he is an aardvark.

01:32:37.000 Confirmed.

01:32:38.000 That's kind of weird.

01:32:39.000 His face isn't really shaped like that.

01:32:40.000 No, it's not.

01:32:41.000 All right, so we got a whole bunch of Super Chats to read.

01:32:43.000 Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.

01:32:45.000 We're gonna read your Super Chats.

01:32:48.000 The end result of that poll was massive.

01:32:49.000 There were about 50,000, it was like 45,000 votes, and I think it was 74% in favor of Steven Crowder.

01:32:56.000 Wait, what poll?

01:32:57.000 I did a poll for the audience, who do you think is right?

01:32:59.000 When?

01:33:00.000 When we started the show.

01:33:01.000 Okay.

01:33:01.000 Crowder or The Daily Wire.

01:33:02.000 And how long does it run for?

01:33:03.000 We ran it until I think 9, 10.

01:33:05.000 Okay.

01:33:07.000 And it had about 45,000 votes.

01:33:09.000 74% said Crowder.

01:33:10.000 It started a little higher and started to shift down a little bit.

01:33:13.000 Some people said Daily Wire bots were attacking.

01:33:15.000 No, I just think... Well, if Crowder won, then Daily Wire bots clearly weren't attacking.

01:33:19.000 Yeah.

01:33:19.000 It's just like, not everything is a conspiracy theory, guys.

01:33:21.000 Alright, let's read.

01:33:22.000 Let's read.

01:33:23.000 Let's read.

01:33:24.000 Buddha Brother says, from these comments, I've decided the right has now swung too far.

01:33:28.000 No one's actually thinking.

01:33:30.000 Everyone sees everything they don't like as evil.

01:33:32.000 Left Matrix.

01:33:33.000 Crowders acting like a child.

01:33:35.000 That's the thing, it's like not everything, like I just said, not everything is a conspiracy.

01:33:38.000 And that's what's so frustrating to me is that you turn something that was just a regular contract negotiation into this huge conspiracy that there's like some boogeyman.

01:33:45.000 And there are plenty of things you can pick apart the daily wire for, this is just not one of them.

01:33:48.000 This is just how business goes, you know?

01:33:51.000 Megan Cole says, why do people always assume the worst of each other?

01:33:53.000 It is possible to mess up a situation and have good intentions.

01:33:56.000 Mistakes or differences of opinions are far off from malicious intent.

01:34:01.000 Well said.

01:34:02.000 I think Crowder sees malicious intent.

01:34:05.000 I think The Daily Wire... Or is he the malicious intent?

01:34:08.000 It looks like from what Jeremy was saying, or in your opinion, it's that Crowder is trying to personally benefit from the controversy, and then Crowder's opinion makes it seem like he's ideologically opposed to The Daily Wire.

01:34:19.000 And he didn't say Daily Wire specifically at first.

01:34:22.000 I do believe Fox.

01:34:23.000 I think Fox is probably not a good company to contract with.

01:34:28.000 We talked about it.

01:34:29.000 Fox hosts can't come on this show.

01:34:33.000 But whatever, man, look, nobody owes me anything.

01:34:35.000 If they don't want to come on the show, I don't really care.

01:34:38.000 All right, let's see where we're at.

01:34:40.000 What's trending on Twitter?

01:34:42.000 What is?

01:34:43.000 Candice.

01:34:45.000 Candice followed by Steven Crowder.

01:34:47.000 The top trends are Candice is trending in News and Entertainment, Steven Crowder, and the third trend is Bronnie.

01:34:53.000 Wait, what?

01:34:54.000 Are you, like, seriously?

01:34:55.000 Yeah.

01:34:55.000 So, let's see, trending...

01:34:59.000 So here's what I'm seeing for U.S.

01:35:00.000 Daily Wire, Crosby, Steff, Tatum, Crowder No.

01:35:03.000 4.

01:35:04.000 Oh wow, why do we have different trends?

01:35:06.000 You might have recommended trends.

01:35:07.000 Yeah, mine's not algorithmic.

01:35:09.000 Twitter has been very interesting.

01:35:10.000 Daily Wire 23.

01:35:11.000 I've been getting a lot of different viewpoints on there that I never had before.

01:35:14.000 Oh, in news.

01:35:15.000 In news, sorry.

01:35:17.000 Yep, Candace is No.

01:35:18.000 2 in news for me.

01:35:18.000 Yep.

01:35:20.000 We're all at work.

01:35:21.000 You know why this is trending so much though?

01:35:23.000 I asked my followers what my last thing was what do you think about him sharing the phone call?

01:35:28.000 I love that. I'm just like we should be bringing the supercharged.

01:35:30.000 They're paying. I mean, that's probably better for us You know, you know why this is trending so much though. It's

01:35:35.000 because the the woke left The the corporate left establishment like Daily Beast and

01:35:40.000 Rolling Stone are writing huge articles They're like sharks smelling blood in the water and they're like, you know, quick, attack the right!

01:35:47.000 Underneath my question of what is everyone's thoughts about Steven Crowder recording this conversation, Mike Cernovich says, Jeremy said wage slave.

01:35:52.000 I'm literally shaking at having to hear a term that I and all of my co-workers called ourselves when on a guaranteed salary that arrived like clockwork without any of our own assets at risk.

01:36:01.000 Viva Frye, hope I'm saying that right, I love him by the way, he makes great videos, He said, I don't know who can think surreptitiously recording a conversation among purported friends can possibly look good.

01:36:09.000 That's my point.

01:36:10.000 Secretly recording conversations in general looks bad on its face.

01:36:13.000 It requires a very serious justification above and beyond unsatisfactory negotiations.

01:36:18.000 A lot of this is common sense.

01:36:20.000 Bryson says it makes him look prepared.

01:36:23.000 He recorded the conversation after registering StopVidCon.com.

01:36:26.000 Yes, it's like I just don't understand.

01:36:28.000 To me it's like, So obvious.

01:36:31.000 Like, you may be a best friend, but if you are sitting across the table from me in a contract, no negotiation, you're an adversary.

01:36:37.000 I mean, all of my comments, I'm not seeing that people are thinking that this is an okay thing for Steven to have done.

01:36:42.000 So that's interesting that there's a discrepancy.

01:36:44.000 Clef the Misfit says, what's the over-under Crowder cancels his Monday appearance after seeing the show?

01:36:49.000 Zero.

01:36:49.000 This recorded conversation was definitely a bridge too far.

01:36:51.000 It's like, that's where people should focus on, the recorded conversation and the fact that he did do a counter-offer.

01:36:56.000 And again, I will not defend Daily Wire in every capacity.

01:37:00.000 I respect Daily Wire.

01:37:01.000 I have a good working relationship.

01:37:03.000 I do not consider Jeremy Boring or Caleb to be my friends, but they have been fair in negotiations.

01:37:08.000 They have acted at the part of businessmen, and if you do business, you should expect that this is how it goes, is what I'm saying.

01:37:14.000 And it's also an indication that they'll go to bat for you as a contractor employee when they're negotiating on your behalf as Daily Wire, if that ever comes up.

01:37:22.000 Jeremy's a good negotiator.

01:37:23.000 I mean, he's hard.

01:37:24.000 That's how he got to where he is.

01:37:25.000 It's business. 0.91

01:37:26.000 It's freaking business, you know what I mean?

01:37:28.000 I personally defend Steven's right to record without telling anyone.

01:37:30.000 It's a one-party consent state.

01:37:31.000 I like it.

01:37:32.000 All right.

01:37:32.000 I'm into it.

01:37:33.000 Record it all.

01:37:33.000 Remind me not to pick up your phone calls.

01:37:35.000 Real quick, I don't see... If Crowder cancels, it's because he's a busy guy and not because of Candace's appearance.

01:37:42.000 Not because he's write-ups.

01:37:42.000 Okay.

01:37:44.000 Oh, so here we go.

01:37:46.000 Jay Yes says, so fun to watch the left and right eat themselves.

01:37:49.000 It's all crumbling.

01:37:50.000 I need more Ian, who surprisingly has the most level head.

01:37:53.000 Thank you, sir.

01:37:54.000 Thank you.

01:37:55.000 Just keep treading water.

01:37:56.000 Eventually, you'll be the only one left.

01:37:58.000 I was saying it'd be funny if we started the show and had Luke wearing a judge's robe and a wig with a gavel.

01:38:04.000 I like gavels.

01:38:04.000 State your case, and then I'll determine who's right.

01:38:06.000 I like Luke.

01:38:06.000 He's on Ant Team Antivax, so.

01:38:08.000 We're just chillin' over here.

01:38:11.000 OG, day one.

01:38:11.000 I don't know if you've seen those yet, Candace, but these are chakra vibrators.

01:38:15.000 Have you?

01:38:15.000 It came out of Las Vegas.

01:38:17.000 Chakra vibrational.

01:38:19.000 Family-friendly show here.

01:38:19.000 I thought this was a family-friendly show.

01:38:21.000 But they are literally chakra vibrators.

01:38:22.000 You ding it, and then you...

01:38:25.000 You put it on your body, and they're different chakras. 0.99

01:38:27.000 Each one is for a different chakra.

01:38:29.000 All right, let me read some more.

01:38:30.000 AJ says, Tim, this is all theater between Jeremy and Crudder to swing the news cycle.

01:38:34.000 They are both faking like WWE.

01:38:36.000 Pay Luke the $50 million.

01:38:37.000 Yeah, where's my $50 million?

01:38:40.000 I volunteer here.

01:38:41.000 WWE.

01:38:41.000 Because I love it here, and it's really fun to be a part of these conversations.

01:38:45.000 Uh-oh.

01:38:45.000 Oh, yeah, well, speaking of that.

01:38:46.000 David Frederick says, Luke, your t-shirt company completely scammed me.

01:38:50.000 One of my shirts was never delivered.

01:38:51.000 One was delivered with holes in it.

01:38:53.000 I have reached out to you and the company and have had no help.

01:38:55.000 That was a good break.

01:38:56.000 I highly do not believe that.

01:38:58.000 I actually messaged my team because I saw that.

01:39:00.000 I read every single chat that happens during these conversations.

01:39:03.000 And here's my work chat.

01:39:05.000 And I took a picture of it.

01:39:07.000 And I'm like, hey, let's try to fix this right away.

01:39:09.000 My team's like, we don't know anyone under that name.

01:39:12.000 We just checked all of our records.

01:39:13.000 We don't have that.

01:39:14.000 But if there is a problem, we always fix it.

01:39:17.000 I strive on having the best customer service, and you can email us info at wearechange.org.

01:39:22.000 And David Fredericks, if that's not the name you went by when you bought the t-shirts, we will fix it right away.

01:39:29.000 Because, yeah, I mean, that's what we do here.

01:39:32.000 And if there's a problem, we'll, you know, it doesn't sound like something that would happen with us, but if it did, we'll fix it right away.

01:39:39.000 Josh Branson says, you going to give Crowder 30 minutes to personally insult people like Candace is? 1.00

01:39:44.000 He's been doing it on his own platform.

01:39:46.000 So does he need more than 30 minutes?

01:39:48.000 I mean, just pay attention.

01:39:49.000 Subscribe to his YouTube channel.

01:39:51.000 That's a promotion for Crowder.

01:39:52.000 If you're looking for personal insults, I suggest you look at the video that he made, which implied that all of the Daily Wire hosts were sellouts.

01:39:59.000 So there you go.

01:40:00.000 He says, I'll be watching.

01:40:01.000 Funnily enough, Crowder probably wouldn't have used it if not for Candace here.

01:40:05.000 I'll just say when Crowder comes on, he's going to be allowed to say exactly what he wants to say about it, the same as Candace is allowed to talk about what her opinion is.

01:40:13.000 How do people expect me not to be offended?

01:40:17.000 Now that you've seen Jeremy's video, go back and re-watch Crowder's video and just realize you will see it.

01:40:23.000 How many times he lied and intentionally omitted certain truths that would have made the Daily Wire look better, and made the hosts look better, and the slight little jabs at the hosts of like, you might be noticing that they're kind of dumbing, you know, like, being, sanitizing their opinions.

01:40:38.000 Like, these were all jabs at me, okay?

01:40:40.000 So, let's, and me, and all, there's only a few hosts of the Daily Wire.

01:40:43.000 There's only a few of us, right?

01:40:44.000 So when you do something like this, and you kind of just say, mm, it's a lot of other people, you're taking attacks on me as well, and I have a right to defend myself always.

01:40:52.000 There you go.

01:40:53.000 Cody Copka says, why did Jordan Peterson delete his tweet in support of Crowder?

01:40:58.000 I was actually curious about that.

01:40:59.000 I saw people like tweeting about it, but I wasn't aware of it.

01:41:02.000 So do you?

01:41:03.000 I'll give you my thoughts.

01:41:06.000 Jordan Peterson probably tweeted out the video from Steven Crowder.

01:41:10.000 And then someone at the Daily Wire probably said to him like, hey, you know that's about us, right?

01:41:15.000 And he was like, oh, I didn't realize.

01:41:16.000 And they're like, yeah.

01:41:17.000 And he was like, I'll take it down.

01:41:19.000 That probably is a sane opinion.

01:41:20.000 I'm sure there's bigger conspiracies that we can create for the internet, so let's make one up.

01:41:24.000 That's way too sane for the internet.

01:41:26.000 That's way too calm of a take for the internet.

01:41:29.000 They're secretly in a relationship.

01:41:31.000 No, but here's what's going to happen.

01:41:33.000 People are going to think that Jordan Peterson tweeted it out, then Jeremy went to him and said, you better take that tweet down or else.

01:41:38.000 Well, we're going to take all your money.

01:41:39.000 And then Jordan was like, please, please don't take my money.

01:41:42.000 Take the gimp mask off me. 1.00

01:41:44.000 Now we're warming up!

01:41:47.000 I need my fancy socks!

01:41:49.000 Don't take my suits!

01:41:50.000 My lobsters! 0.86

01:41:51.000 That's a skit I would watch.

01:41:54.000 Jordan Peterson's locked in a small white room with a lobster, like he's petting it, and then Jeremy walks in and grabs the lobster, and he's like, if you want it back, you take it!

01:42:01.000 He's like, no, my lobster!

01:42:05.000 No, no, it's just having worked for like Fusion and Vice, people who work at companies don't need to be told what to do.

01:42:12.000 No one needs to go to someone at Fusion and be like, hey, you know, we're demanding you cover the story and say it this way.

01:42:21.000 The people they hire, they'll go to you and be like, oh, hey, we saw your tweet this morning.

01:42:27.000 Don't you feel like it's kind of racist?

01:42:28.000 And they'll go, oh, I'm sorry about that.

01:42:29.000 Take it down.

01:42:30.000 You don't got to ask them.

01:42:31.000 They only hire the people who are already in line and willing to cooperate in this way and like cohesively function like that.

01:42:38.000 So I think Jordan Peterson is probably like, oh, I didn't realize.

01:42:40.000 Delete.

01:42:41.000 I didn't think twice.

01:42:42.000 I don't want to be involved in this.

01:42:43.000 And yeah, goodbye.

01:42:44.000 Yeah.

01:42:45.000 Yep.

01:42:45.000 But that's again, let's go back to the lobster theory.

01:42:47.000 And he's locked in a basement and Jeremy and him are dating.

01:42:50.000 It's like, well, it's like that scene from Iron Man two, you know, when they walk in and take his parrot from him and put in the bag.

01:42:54.000 And he's like, I just took your stuff.

01:42:56.000 How does it feel?

01:42:56.000 Like they take his lobster and put it in a bag and Jordan Peterson sitting there.

01:43:01.000 Make the tweet.

01:43:03.000 All right, all right, where are we at?

01:43:05.000 Dorian Marius Gray says, I'm with Luke.

01:43:07.000 Who cares about all this bickering between conservative media personalities?

01:43:10.000 We got globalists trying to kill us every day with their policies and making a new world order. 0.70

01:43:14.000 There's a eugenicist depopulation program happening right now. 0.82

01:43:18.000 Okay, Crowder, we got better things to talk about.

01:43:21.000 That's just my two cents here.

01:43:22.000 People listen!

01:43:24.000 I like the conversation about the contracts.

01:43:27.000 That's super important.

01:43:29.000 That needs to change.

01:43:30.000 Dixie Tailgate says Candace and Emily Campagno should start their own show called Hot Fast 1.00

01:43:37.000 Talking Conservative Chicks. 1.00

01:43:39.000 When I get fired up, I speak so fast and I consciously try to slow it down.

01:43:43.000 But when I get upset, I'm just...

01:43:46.000 Did it always like that or did it get more over the years?

01:43:49.000 No, I would say that it's a family trait.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, but I've gotten better at it and I slow it down when I'm being intentional.

01:43:56.000 But then when I'm fired up, I'm like... Do you listen that fast too?

01:44:01.000 I listen extremely fast.

01:44:03.000 I do.

01:44:03.000 See, I intentionally pretended I didn't and answered your question very slowly.

01:44:06.000 That was intentional.

01:44:07.000 Tried really hard there, guys.

01:44:09.000 Keep breathing.

01:44:09.000 Breathe through the nose.

01:44:11.000 Also, keep your forehead relaxed.

01:44:12.000 Thank you.

01:44:13.000 Whatever this does. 0.79

01:44:15.000 Alex D. He says Candace is a liar. 0.80

01:44:18.000 Crowder requested $30 million a year for four years minus production costs, not $140 million per year, as she claimed.

01:44:25.000 Okay, I'm sorry if I got the math wrong.

01:44:27.000 The most important part of this, 30 million dollars a year times, how many years are you saying?

01:44:30.000 I think it was 120 over four years, 30 million years.

01:44:33.000 But I said 140, I should have said 120.

01:44:35.000 I would like to apologize for the lie.

01:44:37.000 There's probably a big conspiracy as to why I lied, not just that I made a simple mathematical error, and your big conspiracy would be right.

01:44:43.000 The point is, is that he made a counter offer, so he was not outraged by the terms.

01:44:48.000 I'm so annoyed by the people who are quote-tweeting people like Will Sommer.

01:44:55.000 He's like a Daily Beast writer. 1.00

01:44:55.000 Come on, that guy's a total scumbag. 1.00

01:44:57.000 And he's taking Crowder out of context. 0.99

01:44:59.000 I'm like, you don't have to like or agree with Crowder, but what really pisses me off is I'm seeing tons of people, even conservatives and moderates and centrists, retweeting a guy who makes things up and then making fun of Crowder.

01:45:10.000 And I'm like, no, no.

01:45:11.000 Disagree with Crowder on the merits.

01:45:13.000 Don't listen to a guy who's lying about what Crowder said.

01:45:15.000 Don't promote Will Somner.

01:45:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:18.000 Like, at all, ever, under any circumstances.

01:45:19.000 You see, you know it's bad when you're criticizing Crowder, but actually defending him from the lies of Will Somner.

01:45:23.000 Yeah, I mean, it's Will Somner. 0.98

01:45:25.000 I mean, like, he's a total dirtbag. 0.90

01:45:28.000 And so while I think what Steven Crowder did is wrong and is a dirtbag move, it doesn't help us by promoting another dirtbag. 0.97

01:45:34.000 GBB says, Hasan Abi is a self-admitted Marxist.

01:45:37.000 That's right.

01:45:37.000 And the tweet was still funny.

01:45:39.000 It was funny.

01:45:41.000 It's funny when, like, I see people on the right take a joke tweet from Vosh or Hasan seriously, and I'm like, come on, guys.

01:45:47.000 Like, Vosh is not seriously advocating for eating people.

01:45:50.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:50.000 Like, he'll make a weird joke or whatever, and then people will be like, bleh!

01:45:53.000 And then you retweet it, and it's like, retweets suddenly become endorsements, and people on the right start acting like people on the left, and it's like, alright, dude, chill.

01:45:59.000 Like, chill.

01:45:59.000 And you're not really communist, right?

01:46:02.000 Just to be clear.

01:46:03.000 S.A.

01:46:03.000 Federale says, I'm glad this conversation is happening as well, but I also agree that I just want Luke to talk about the globalists for a while.

01:46:09.000 Thank you. 0.99

01:46:11.000 There's a war on for your balls. 0.99

01:46:12.000 Testosterone and sperm levels are declining to record levels. 0.98

01:46:16.000 Humanity will face a crisis of civilizations that will know no fricking bounds.

01:46:22.000 We are in deep trouble unless we wake up right now, people. 0.99

01:46:25.000 I'm just sitting here talking about business relationships and Luke's like, they're coming for your balls! 0.98

01:46:29.000 They are, literally. 0.99

01:46:30.000 People listen! 0.99

01:46:31.000 They're gonna take your balls! 1.00

01:46:32.000 I wish I could read that comment. 1.00

01:46:34.000 Suggestion box?

01:46:35.000 Get something here so that your guests can read too.

01:46:38.000 I love that.

01:46:39.000 And your co-hosts.

01:46:41.000 I don't have the best eyesight.

01:46:43.000 The new studio, we're going to have monitors for everybody.

01:46:48.000 So the issue is, we learned.

01:46:51.000 And so now we're going to have actually little modules in the table that pop open.

01:46:54.000 You can plug your laptop into it.

01:46:56.000 I would love to see what everybody's saying so I could fire answer anything that There's just so much, so I can only read so much.

01:47:03.000 I try to find good ones.

01:47:04.000 I don't want...

01:47:05.000 Yeah, no, it makes sense.

01:47:06.000 Of course, you can't answer everything.

01:47:07.000 But all of them are basically saying, I hate Candace. 0.98

01:47:09.000 She's awful. 0.93

01:47:10.000 No. 1.00

01:47:11.000 She's ugly. 1.00

01:47:12.000 Worst. 1.00

01:47:13.000 Why isn't she Vax for kids? 1.00

01:47:14.000 Yeah, I get it.

01:47:15.000 Do you get them any vaccines?

01:47:16.000 Zero percent.

01:47:17.000 Just healthy human beings out the way they're born.

01:47:20.000 Josh Vicker says, Candace said Crowder called Jeremy two months after registering the Stop

01:47:24.000 Big Con on 12-12-22.

01:47:26.000 She was using personal attacks that she condemns others for.

01:47:29.000 Wait, that's an interesting point.

01:47:31.000 I wouldn't call that a personal attack.

01:47:32.000 It's not a personal attack, it's a timeline.

01:47:34.000 Yeah, if Crowder registered StopBigCon on December 12th, but then called Jeremy on like January... December 22nd, actually.

01:47:42.000 No.

01:47:43.000 10 days later?

01:47:43.000 22nd, no.

01:47:44.000 It was the 12th?

01:47:46.000 Do you want to pull up the Who Is?

01:47:47.000 Yeah, I think it was the 12th.

01:47:48.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the 12th.

01:47:50.000 Oh, okay.

01:47:50.000 So then I misread it.

01:47:51.000 It's my fault.

01:47:51.000 And then the 15th was when he made the Join Mug Club thing.

01:47:54.000 Right, oh, okay.

01:47:54.000 So we checked the Who Is, and then I guess he called Jeremy a week ago?

01:47:57.000 A week ago.

01:47:59.000 And then recorded a conversation.

01:48:00.000 So it's nefarious.

01:48:02.000 A week ago, and then he recorded the conversation.

01:48:04.000 So everyone can put the context clues together and solve the situation.

01:48:08.000 So he had intended to launch Stop Big Con Dale Barr says Crowder is in the wrong.

01:48:12.000 However, I think JB should have accepted that they missed on demonetization.

01:48:14.000 but it was one month after.

01:48:15.000 Guys, clearly math.

01:48:16.000 You got me.

01:48:17.000 Either way.

01:48:18.000 I've been got.

01:48:19.000 Yeah, either way, it was before.

01:48:23.000 Dale Barr says Crowder is in the wrong.

01:48:25.000 However, I think JB should have accepted that they missed on demonetization.

01:48:30.000 Lodder with Crowder questioning the DW's conservative values.

01:48:33.000 Doesn't know contractor relationships or how much DW did in the culture war.

01:48:40.000 I just don't understand if you hire me to work for you and I get completely demonetized

01:48:45.000 and I can no longer produce any content, I should just keep paying you because you're

01:48:50.000 Well, no, no, I can actually simplify this.

01:48:52.000 The Daily Wire wasn't trying to hire Crowder.

01:48:54.000 The Daily Wire was trying to license content.

01:48:55.000 I think the Daily Wire could have made the contract sound like this.

01:48:58.000 Luke, I will do a contract with you to license 192 YouTube videos.

01:49:04.000 I'm not signing no contracts.

01:49:06.000 But here's my point.

01:49:06.000 Where's my toilet paper?

01:49:08.000 I'm gonna treat that contract like a... The issue is, The Daily Wire could have just said, we will license 192 episodes of The Loudmouth Crowder Show to appear on Apple, Facebook, Spotify, and YouTube.

01:49:20.000 If you miss one of these episodes for any reason, we will dock you on the fee to measure it to the episode lost.

01:49:29.000 Then basically, if Crowder got banned, Daily Wire would be like, hey, Crowder, we noticed that you're short three episodes from the contract.

01:49:37.000 And he'd say, well, I'm banned from YouTube.

01:49:38.000 I'm like, OK, well, then you're in breach of contract.

01:49:42.000 Which is what they did, right?

01:49:43.000 They actually, it's even more favorable because they said we're only going to dock you a percentage of the contract so you can still get paid.

01:49:47.000 So you're basically saying they should have dropped him and said now you get zero percent, which is actually a more aggressive contract.

01:49:52.000 Well, so the issue is, the Daily Wire, the way they structured the licensing agreement, they separated, right, they could have just said... Zero percent.

01:50:00.000 If you get docked, that's actually more aggressive.

01:50:02.000 If I tell you I am buying ten YouTube videos and then you get banned from YouTube, you are unable to complete the terms of contract, I pay you nothing.

01:50:11.000 That's worse, those are worse terms.

01:50:12.000 I know.

01:50:13.000 That's my point.

01:50:14.000 This is literally, we're all agreeing.

01:50:15.000 Actually, they were being nicer because they said, we're only gonna dock you 20% of the fee.

01:50:21.000 Please guys, if I misquoted it, please.

01:50:23.000 You got my point is that they said 20% of the fee if you get banned from YouTube.

01:50:27.000 So they were actually being nicer in those circumstances because the normal person would say, you get banned from YouTube, sorry, go kick rocks.

01:50:33.000 That's what you're saying.

01:50:33.000 That would make sense.

01:50:34.000 You can no longer perform as you've agreed to.

01:50:36.000 But it's because they weren't hiring Crowder.

01:50:38.000 And that's why.

01:50:39.000 What do you mean they weren't hiring him?

01:50:40.000 As an employee?

01:50:42.000 Yeah, but the point is that it's the same concept.

01:50:45.000 No, no, no.

01:50:45.000 This is an important distinction.

01:50:47.000 Okay, yeah.

01:50:47.000 I'm not comprehending what you're saying then.

01:50:49.000 Daily Wire is licensing the LWC show that Crowder has to produce and deliver.

01:50:54.000 Same for me.

01:50:55.000 If he can't deliver, they reduce his pay.

01:50:57.000 If they hired him directly, then the Daily Wire assumes those risks because they run the whole thing.

01:51:03.000 There's a difference between a license fee... I'm a license fee, that's what I'm trying to tell you.

01:51:06.000 It's the same thing, but it wouldn't make sense.

01:51:08.000 a license fee if you can't make the content they should say kick rocks right?

01:51:11.000 Right right the difference that what I'm saying is if Crowder wanted the Daily

01:51:15.000 Wire to assume 100% of the risk he needs to be an employee.

01:51:18.000 Oh oh you're that I was missing that piece so you're saying he should have become an employee.

01:51:21.000 Then even in that circumstance if you are an employee and your job is to create content

01:51:25.000 if you can't create the content.

01:51:28.000 Ah but as an employee that's on the business.

01:51:29.000 Okay, cool.

01:51:30.000 But he didn't want to be an employee.

01:51:31.000 He didn't even want to come into the studio and make his content.

01:51:33.000 He wanted to own all of his stuff and make his stuff out... So, I mean, this is what he didn't... He didn't want that option, right?

01:51:38.000 It's an important distinction I think people need to understand.

01:51:40.000 The Daily Wire wasn't hiring Crowder as an employee.

01:51:43.000 They were licensing the show from him.

01:51:44.000 Yeah, which is how it is for me.

01:51:45.000 They're licensing my content.

01:51:47.000 So it makes sense that if I can't make my content, it's done.

01:51:50.000 And actually, it's favorable to say, like, actually, we're not going to be done with you, we're still going to pay you some money, and we're going to try to replace this in the time and come up with something behind the pay, or whatever, and we're only going to dock you 20%.

01:51:58.000 That's actually, which is why when DC Drano was here, I keep calling him DC Drano, Rogan, when Rogan was here, he was like, I don't know, this actually seems pretty okay, you know, this, at least they're not saying you're completely gone, this is kind of nice, you know?

01:52:10.000 Here's the challenge.

01:52:11.000 My advice to people would be not to sign a contract like that.

01:52:14.000 I mean, especially if you're a crowder, a crowder's big.

01:52:16.000 But then you gotta admit, Brett Cooper's big.

01:52:18.000 Why would you not sign a contract like that?

01:52:20.000 I guess I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.

01:52:21.000 Why would you not sign a contract that says that if you are banned, obviously we can't make money off of you, why would you say that this is not a good contract?

01:52:31.000 I would recommend everybody do their own thing.

01:52:34.000 Yeah, and I think that's kind of the conclusion that they came to, right?

01:52:36.000 Is that I want to do this, you want to do that.

01:52:38.000 Like, you had the same conversation with DW.

01:52:40.000 I've had conversations with pretty much everyone in the conservative movement where I went, okay, this doesn't really work for me, it doesn't really work for me, and you walk away because you have different ideas.

01:52:48.000 You know, Stephen thinks he's a Tom Brady.

01:52:50.000 I mean, that's the truth.

01:52:51.000 And he thinks I'm too big for this.

01:52:53.000 That's fine.

01:52:54.000 If Tom Brady wants to orchestrate a contract to go back to the Patriots and negotiations fall apart, Is he really supposed to try to burn down the Patriot organization or to say that we just couldn't come to an agreement?

01:53:04.000 That's called, like I said, being a big boy.

01:53:06.000 It just didn't work out.

01:53:08.000 Button Puncher says $10 says Crowder bails on Monday.

01:53:11.000 Why do you think he's going to bail?

01:53:13.000 I don't think so.

01:53:14.000 I've talked to him quite a bit.

01:53:15.000 I think he should drop the whole recording, by the way.

01:53:18.000 I agree.

01:53:19.000 It's just like he did part of the contract and then the part that made Daily Wire look bad and didn't show the other.

01:53:24.000 It's like, why don't you drop, I have no idea what that phone call says.

01:53:26.000 I'm understanding from Jeremy that it was like a pleasant, friendly conversation about Christmas, right?

01:53:31.000 And then he shifted the conversation and made himself sound like a hero.

01:53:35.000 Drop it.

01:53:35.000 Drop the conversation.

01:53:36.000 Stop giving us piecemeal information.

01:53:39.000 Let transparency win the day, right?

01:53:43.000 Daylight is the best disinfectant.

01:53:45.000 As long as Jeremy and Stephen are both into it, I 100% agree.

01:53:48.000 I would like them to decide it together.

01:53:50.000 What do you mean together?

01:53:51.000 Stephen LeRae dropped pieces of it.

01:53:52.000 I think Jeremy mentioned that he wouldn't mind if it was public.

01:53:55.000 I like Crowder.

01:53:56.000 I think Crowder's been screwed over multiple times by contracts.

01:53:59.000 And I think if you look at his career, I'm imagining he was like, he leaves The Blaze, and then he looks at these contracts and he's like, this is the same thing everywhere, I don't like this.

01:54:09.000 I mean... Time to start your own business.

01:54:11.000 It's like, oh, I'm an employee at Chipotle.

01:54:13.000 Every time I have these contracts ending, I've worked at Chipotle and I've worked at Subway and I just don't like the fact that when I sign my employment contract that I get paid around this much.

01:54:22.000 I think I should be paid this.

01:54:23.000 Sounds like it's time to start your own business.

01:54:25.000 SirRank says, Brett Cooper responding now on Instagram.

01:54:28.000 Ooh, Brett Cooper in the mix.

01:54:30.000 Well, so here's an important point.

01:54:31.000 Look, if someone asked me, I've had people come to me because Rumble's doing deals with people.

01:54:36.000 Rumble's doing, you know, I don't know exactly the terms, but some people are getting signed and we're seeing that a lot.

01:54:42.000 I think Russell Brand did something.

01:54:43.000 I think people come to me who are smaller and say, hey, Rumble's offering me a deal.

01:54:46.000 Should I do it?

01:54:46.000 I say, what's the terms?

01:54:47.000 They say, here are the terms.

01:54:48.000 I say, I wouldn't do it.

01:54:49.000 I think it's a bad deal.

01:54:50.000 And they will go, okay, well, you know, I'm broke.

01:54:52.000 And so, it's money for me.

01:54:53.000 And I have to do it.

01:54:54.000 I'm like, okay.

01:54:54.000 Well, people are at different stages in their life, so people wonder why it might make sense to sign it.

01:54:58.000 You have to think about, that's why the individual person, right?

01:55:01.000 But, but.

01:55:02.000 Are you single and by yourself?

01:55:03.000 Like, Brogan was saying, I wouldn't sign something like that.

01:55:05.000 I like to be in control of my business.

01:55:06.000 Let's ask Brogan that same question, right?

01:55:08.000 When he has four kids.

01:55:09.000 He just got married.

01:55:10.000 And sometimes, the situation shifts, and you're like, you know, I actually want to lay down some roots.

01:55:14.000 When I started this stuff seven years ago, I would have never signed a contract with Daily Wire.

01:55:19.000 Ever.

01:55:19.000 I was loving what I was doing on YouTube.

01:55:21.000 I was enjoying my independence.

01:55:22.000 I was, you know, doing some part-time stuff with Turning Point USA.

01:55:25.000 I was doing Fox News shows five days a week, you know, literally six, seven days a week sometimes.

01:55:30.000 My life changed.

01:55:31.000 My life changed where I wanted to put down some roots because I have children.

01:55:35.000 So that's another part of this conspiracy land where people, I think people said to me, she doesn't go on Alex Jones anymore.

01:55:40.000 They never mentioned that I also don't go on Jesse Waters or Laura Ingram or I literally do Tucker once a week.

01:55:45.000 It's because I don't have to.

01:55:46.000 I have two kids now and I had Alex Jones on my I did my show last year, right?

01:55:50.000 So everything becomes this conspiracy, and not that this person is actually growing up, got married, has two kids, and doesn't have as much time to manage an entire business, right?

01:55:59.000 And maybe you go, actually, I'd rather spend that time with my kids.

01:56:02.000 My continuity of the wire allows for me to wake up in the morning, to drop my kids off at daycare, to pick them up from daycare if I want to, to go back home to have lunch with my son.

01:56:13.000 That's a wonderful thing, because motherhood is the most important thing in my life.

01:56:17.000 Has The Daily Wire ever, I shouldn't say instructed, but insisted that you don't talk about something?

01:56:23.000 No, we've had two content disagreements, and I will be open about it because I believe that transparency is the best way for people to decipher themselves.

01:56:31.000 The first one was during COVID crazies, like I think about the time that I did your, and I was instantly against the vaccine 100%, like didn't even play with it.

01:56:39.000 And I wanted to do this thing talking about how it was impacting people's menstruation based on what women that had gotten the vaccine were telling me, one of my best friends who I just went to go see here.

01:56:49.000 She just literally wouldn't stop bleeding, couldn't get up.

01:56:52.000 I mean, it was like girls were terrified and nobody would talk about it.

01:56:55.000 And I was adamant.

01:56:57.000 I mean, I sat down there in that control and I was like, then why are we doing the show?

01:57:00.000 Like, you know, if we're so afraid of and this is one of things where it's like, OK, I get why they're saying they're like, we will like to their credit.

01:57:07.000 If you put this on YouTube, they made it very clear.

01:57:08.000 They all started making these policies about the vaccine.

01:57:11.000 Suddenly, if you said anything against the vaccine, and to me, it would have been worth losing a fee to talk about this because I just wanted it to be on record and for women to hear it.

01:57:19.000 And then eventually they agreed and they said, OK, if you're going to do it, you do it by the book.

01:57:22.000 You may be careful that you say that a friend told me, you know, just making sure the language is exactly right.

01:57:27.000 And that's what the editors are paid to do, to be like, maybe this sentence can be striked so that we have a defense for you on YouTube.

01:57:33.000 But I did say you can go back and listen to the episode during COVID, but it was a fight, OK?

01:57:36.000 And of course, you gotta make sure to tell everybody, just talk to a medical professional.

01:57:39.000 This is not medical advice.

01:57:40.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:41.000 I had to start with, I'm not a doctor, I'm telling you what I am hearing and what women are telling me. 0.96

01:57:45.000 And then seven months later, when we were all vindicated, when they suddenly admitted it in the press, I looked like a freaking hero and I was like, see guys, it pays to talk.

01:57:52.000 And it wasn't Jeremy and Caleb.

01:57:53.000 There's obviously a lot of, I don't talk to Jeremy and Caleb on my shows.

01:57:56.000 The second situation was with Ye, obviously.

01:57:59.000 That was like a very big deal, things that were going on.

01:58:02.000 And they felt, and this actually was a conversation with Jeremy and Caleb, They basically were like, we would never tell you what to say, but what we are saying is that we're under all this fire because whether you're being silent or what you're saying, it seems like people are interpreting this as this is a defense of Ye.

01:58:17.000 And we are just asking you like, okay, you have made it clear that Ye is your friend.

01:58:21.000 I'm not gonna not say, I made it clear that I was not going to say anything bad about Ye.

01:58:24.000 I still feel very passionate about that.

01:58:26.000 He is my friend.

01:58:26.000 I actually believe in friendship.

01:58:28.000 I don't believe in dropping recording.

01:58:29.000 I have said publicly, he's my friend.

01:58:31.000 And because I have said that, I am not willing to when the entire media is lashing him and he's losing his entire life to add to the fire of everything.

01:58:42.000 But then they said something to me and it registered where they said, okay, you're saying all this stuff in defense of Ye, but what about your other friends that might be being hurt by this?

01:58:49.000 And that was when I decided on my show to say something in defense of Dennis Prager because I realized that while I was defending Ye, I also wasn't defending people, which is also important to me, my friends like Marissa Straight.

01:59:00.000 Marissa Straight CEO of PragerU, I worked for them, but she is much more than that to me.

01:59:04.000 Like, she is like a sister to me.

01:59:05.000 I went through some very, very serious stuff a couple of years ago, which I wouldn't even care to recap.

01:59:11.000 It's one of those situations where you're just like, it's like life or death, you know what I mean?

01:59:15.000 Like, how am I gonna get my half in the morning?

01:59:16.000 And the only person I spoke to that got me through that was Mr. Straight.

01:59:19.000 And I would never deny that I am friends with Mr. Straight, and I would never deny that I am friends with Ye.

01:59:23.000 And sometimes these two things at this moment seem to run into conflict and they were just

01:59:28.000 like alarm bells being, why are you only saying stuff about yay, not saying I was friends

01:59:34.000 with you or whatever.

01:59:35.000 And all I did was say exactly what I just said to you.

01:59:37.000 I'm friends with both these people and that doesn't make sense to the world at this moment.

01:59:40.000 I get that.

01:59:41.000 But I refuse to say anything bad about either of them.

01:59:44.000 So this is a really good point because like I said, I think the Daily Wire is a net positive.

01:59:49.000 We took a different approach to the yay thing.

01:59:51.000 After yay stormed out of here, we sent a reporter to go hang out with him and get the story.

01:59:56.000 Shane Cashman went down, hung out with him and it was an amazing story and he called

02:00:01.000 it the case for President Yay.

02:00:03.000 Call that a defense or whatever you want to call it.

02:00:06.000 When I talked to him, I was like yay invited Shane to come out and do this interview in

02:00:11.000 depth in person to experience what he was working on.

02:00:15.000 It was really great.

02:00:16.000 And I'm talking to Shane as Ye is on InfoWars saying very outrageous things.

02:00:22.000 And then we were like, what do we do?

02:00:24.000 And I'm like, do you still want to do it?

02:00:26.000 And he was like, yeah.

02:00:26.000 I'm like, have fun, bro.

02:00:28.000 Write it up.

02:00:28.000 Do it to it.

02:00:30.000 And that's, and that's a moment that we're in, and by the way, Crack Daily Wire, that's a very difficult scenario to sort of maneuver.

02:00:37.000 You have one of your hosts that's like, you know, about yay, and the other host is like, he's my friend.

02:00:43.000 So I think that that should show a credit, a credit to the Daily Wire, that we were both Able to say what we felt to be true and I've always said like Shapiro can say what he wants and what he believes They don't become my beliefs.

02:00:56.000 We disagree about a lot of different things and the yay Situation was a scenario in which we disagreed and let me tell you the pressure that was put on me From the mainstream media tweets all the stuff to say something bad about yay like to just say one thing bad about him and And to me, it was sadistic, and I stood up for someone because I refused, rather than saying stop for him, I refused to add to it because it seemed sadistic.

02:01:20.000 It was like, how much more do you need somebody to be hit over the head?

02:01:23.000 He's like bleeding on the ground, he's got nothing left.

02:01:25.000 It was like a walk of shame that they wanted to hurt him.

02:01:27.000 Yeah, they wanted me, and then I realized it was sadistic because it was like, everyone has said it, the entire world has said it, his wife has said it, this person has said it, they've taken everything from him, they're threatening to psych 5150 him, all this stuff.

02:01:37.000 But we need Candice to say it.

02:01:39.000 And I was like, this is now sadistic.

02:01:42.000 And I am not going to participate in this. 0.94

02:01:43.000 And then it became, well, if you don't participate, then we're going to whip you too. 0.97

02:01:48.000 And I was like, F all of you.

02:01:49.000 Because at the end of the day, every single day, my goal is to put my head on the pillow and know that I was a decent human being.

02:01:56.000 And that is why I don't have very many enemies, shockingly, in this movement.

02:02:00.000 Because I stand by what I believe in always, even when it's popular not to do that.

02:02:04.000 It would have been so easy for me to sell I want to say one final thought as we start to wrap this up.

02:02:09.000 I've known Crowder for a while.

02:02:10.000 He's always been really nice to me.

02:02:11.000 I've been on his show several times and I like the guy.

02:02:13.000 be a person and wait for people to move on.

02:02:16.000 And I don't need you to understand how I'm both friends with Ye

02:02:19.000 and both friends with Marista Straight.

02:02:21.000 I wanna say one final thought as we start to wrap this up.

02:02:24.000 I've known Crowder for a while.

02:02:27.000 He's always been really nice to me.

02:02:29.000 I've been on his show several times.

02:02:31.000 And I like the guy, I think he does important work.

02:02:34.000 I also know Jeremy Boring.

02:02:36.000 And in all of the business dealings that I've done with a bunch of companies, the best was with Jeremy

02:02:42.000 despite the fact we did not come to any formal transactional understanding.

02:02:45.000 It just doesn't make sense.

02:02:47.000 But I think the conversation was an important one to have because we're exploring how can we do better by everything that's going on.

02:02:52.000 We want to win the culture war. 0.87

02:02:54.000 I do think Jeremy's a good dude.

02:02:58.000 You know, I've talked with people at big companies, obviously I've talked with Vice, I've talked with Fusion, I've talked with a bunch of other big New York media, and they all, you walk out every time going, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:03:08.000 When I went to the Daily Wire and was talking with Jeremy, it was like, it was fun.

02:03:12.000 It was hanging out, talking, brainstorming, and we ultimately decided that there's probably nothing we could do, but we'll do non-transactional things, like the Times Square billboard stuff.

02:03:20.000 Since then, there have been periods where I've talked with Jeremy and like, hey, look, we're a small company.

02:03:25.000 We've had these problems.

02:03:26.000 And he's like, oh, yeah, you know, he's giving me like free advice without question, just seriously helping another company, which arguably is a competitor.

02:03:34.000 And so I think Jeremy is a great dude.

02:03:36.000 So it's really hard for me.

02:03:37.000 I'm like, I don't want everybody fighting.

02:03:39.000 I don't think Daily Wire is a bad company.

02:03:40.000 I don't think Steam Crowd is a bad dude.

02:03:42.000 I think there's an ideological disagreement.

02:03:44.000 It's really difficult.

02:03:45.000 I don't know how to solve the problem.

02:03:46.000 Yeah, but what's your gut instinct telling you?

02:03:47.000 Because I'm not going to let you be agnostic. 0.98

02:03:50.000 You've got the facts in front of you.

02:03:51.000 You're watching the videos.

02:03:52.000 What is your gut telling you about this situation?

02:03:53.000 It was wrong for Crowder to record Jeremy.

02:03:56.000 I'm shocked to see that he registered Stop Big Con a month before he recorded the phone call, which says that he's been planning this for some time.

02:04:04.000 I do think Stephen Crowder is ideologically motivated.

02:04:07.000 I don't think it's effective right now with what's going on to go after the Daily Wire when you have things like Disney and Netflix to be angry about.

02:04:15.000 The Daily Wire is producing stuff that I think is very important and good, notably the documentary you did on BLM, notably the documentary Matt Walsh did on What Is A Woman.

02:04:24.000 And so I'm just like, is this the appropriate thing to be doing?

02:04:28.000 I don't know if Crowder should be.

02:04:30.000 I do think that Crowder is right in that these contracts are not good for people starting up.

02:04:38.000 That being said, I do understand Brett Cooper is probably infinitely better off because of it.

02:04:42.000 You know what I mean?

02:04:43.000 It's a difficult thing.

02:04:44.000 It's a difficult thing.

02:04:44.000 Of course.

02:04:45.000 I didn't know who Brett Cooper was and now I'm like, she's amazing.

02:04:48.000 Her show is so great.

02:04:50.000 And that video recording that Crowder has, I just heard it for the first time with this video.

02:04:54.000 Jeremy's right.

02:04:55.000 She's going to work for him.

02:04:57.000 And she's going to leave very famous.

02:04:59.000 And she's going to be worth millions of dollars after that fact.

02:05:01.000 I recognize that.

02:05:03.000 Luke told me a while ago, before I worked for Disney and had to do it, I said, yeah, but look, I worked for them for a couple of years.

02:05:07.000 I get paid a lot of money.

02:05:08.000 I can invest in another company.

02:05:10.000 And I ended up doing that.

02:05:11.000 And I had a really bad experience really, really quickly.

02:05:14.000 But I did get paid enough money to start all of this.

02:05:17.000 So it's like, Maybe it's easy for me to say it.

02:05:19.000 I was like, don't join the Disney cult.

02:05:22.000 The Mickey Mouse is not good for you, Tim.

02:05:23.000 Don't do it.

02:05:24.000 The dark side's too strong.

02:05:25.000 Don't sell out to the corporations.

02:05:27.000 He can put himself in the presence of the emperor and still maintain the light.

02:05:31.000 But hey, Disney owns Star Wars, so easy.

02:05:34.000 But this is my aversion to these contracts.

02:05:36.000 It was two years where the company instantly went woke and it locks you up.

02:05:40.000 And I'm like, so I think my ultimate view is I don't think Crowder should be waging this in a way that's damaging to the Daily Wire, but I do think he should be leading a charge in changing the business landscape of the space, and then, you know, there's a net positive way to do it.

02:05:56.000 I would have thought you would have been bigger and better if you didn't sign with Disney.

02:05:59.000 You would have been on your own, and you would have been two years ahead of where you are now.

02:06:02.000 That's entirely possible.

02:06:03.000 And that's why I was like, don't do it!

02:06:05.000 No!

02:06:06.000 Imagine if I just started doing this show instead of going and working there, being stuck for two years.

02:06:10.000 I think your experience inside the belly of the beast is invaluable.

02:06:14.000 But hey, I had nowhere to sleep.

02:06:15.000 Whose couch would I be sleeping on when you were covering all those crazy protests, right?

02:06:19.000 I needed a couch, so I'm happy that happened.

02:06:21.000 You know, what I'll say is, my view of it is this.

02:06:25.000 I think the Daily Wire is going to be a media enterprise and it's going to look like you're gonna see two hot rods.

02:06:36.000 One's got a pride flag on it, one's got a Gadsden flag on it.

02:06:39.000 They're both hot rods.

02:06:40.000 Okay, me, I'm not a hot rod guy, I don't drive those things.

02:06:42.000 I'm gonna get my electric motorbike or a moped or something.

02:06:46.000 I don't got beef with people who are driving a hot rod.

02:06:50.000 But, you know, I'd rather hang out with the guys that got the Gadsden flag thing.

02:06:53.000 Am I gonna buy the car?

02:06:54.000 No.

02:06:54.000 Am I gonna, you know, pay to drive around in it?

02:06:56.000 No.

02:06:57.000 But I think it's cool that you got it, and I'd rather that than the other one, you know what I mean?

02:07:01.000 So, that being said, I'm just looking at a mathematical formula.

02:07:05.000 If The Daily Wire succeeds, is it good for us?

02:07:09.000 100% yes, absolutely.

02:07:10.000 Is it the system I would build?

02:07:11.000 No, it's absolutely not.

02:07:13.000 But I like The Daily Wire, you know what I mean?

02:07:15.000 I watch Disney stuff, I stop subscribing.

02:07:18.000 I don't have a Netflix subscription either.

02:07:20.000 I don't fault people for wanting entertainment.

02:07:22.000 We have to build the machine we want to see, and then people can leave.

02:07:27.000 So if Crowder, in my opinion, wants to make something where he thinks he can do better

02:07:30.000 contracts, my approach, if I was him, would be, guys, I tried doing a deal with these

02:07:35.000 companies, I think their deals are bad, I understand, they produce content that's probably

02:07:39.000 good, here's what I'm going to do.

02:07:40.000 I'm going to make a machine that's better, I'm going to do better contracts for you.

02:07:43.000 Quite literally, that is what I'm doing.

02:07:44.000 That's all, that's literally all he had to say.

02:07:45.000 But let's go to the members only section because we've got to talk about so much.

02:07:48.000 So, thanks so much for hanging out.

02:07:50.000 I know it's contentious.

02:07:51.000 There's people like Crowder's right, EW's right, but we'll have Crowder on the show Monday and then he'll lay out his case and his view of everything.

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02:08:07.000 You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.

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02:08:11.000 Candice, do you want to shout anything out?

02:08:13.000 Just my podcast.

02:08:14.000 I feel like that's appropriate.

02:08:15.000 I'm very proud of what we're doing.

02:08:16.000 It's amazing.

02:08:17.000 We explore all of these topics.

02:08:18.000 I'm obviously very passionate about against vaccines.

02:08:20.000 I'm very passionate about the corruption of the CIA.

02:08:23.000 I'm very passionate about all the WWF stuff, the globalists.

02:08:28.000 Actually, everything that you were talking about is what my podcast is about.

02:08:30.000 I usually don't talk about conservative infighting.

02:08:33.000 I do try to stay out of it.

02:08:35.000 And then just to say to people, please don't think everything is a conspiracy.

02:08:39.000 Don't think that every person is selling out.

02:08:40.000 We're never going to win if your perspective is that one simple thing that you don't understand means that somebody has sold out or one simple agreement that you have Please don't think that every single person has the same opinion.

02:08:50.000 At The Daily Wire, I'm still the exact same person that you invested in, your timing, when you hit the share button.

02:08:55.000 Back when I was red pill black, nothing has changed.

02:08:57.000 I'm just a mom now.

02:08:58.000 I have two kids.

02:09:00.000 And I don't agree with everything that The Daily Wire does, but this time, I didn't do anything wrong.

02:09:04.000 Hey, what's the best place for people to get the podcast?

02:09:06.000 Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen.

02:09:08.000 You can watch the show on YouTube as well if you want to watch it every single day.

02:09:11.000 I think the YouTube channel they started for me is Candace Owens Pod.

02:09:14.000 I also have my own YouTube channel, which is separate.

02:09:17.000 And yeah, I run my social media accounts.

02:09:19.000 My Instagram, my Twitter are not controlled by The Daily Wire.

02:09:21.000 I like that conspiracy.

02:09:22.000 And I'm still friends with everybody.

02:09:24.000 So for people that think that, oh, she forgot her, look, it's nope.

02:09:27.000 Still friends with every single person whose shows I've been on.

02:09:31.000 I don't have beef in this movement.

02:09:32.000 Because people that are chill with me, I have nothing bad to say about them, even if other people hate them.

02:09:36.000 What's your Twitter really quickly?

02:09:38.000 At real Candace O, only because Candace was taken and it's never been tweeted from.

02:09:43.000 So Elon Musk, hear my cry, release all of the unused handles and give me at Candace.

02:09:50.000 I had to shoot my shot. 0.90

02:09:51.000 I had to shoot my shot. 0.60

02:09:52.000 Yeah.

02:09:55.000 Maybe I'll talk to him later.

02:09:56.000 Anyway, my website is LukeUncensored.com.

02:09:59.000 LukeUncensored.com is my website.

02:10:01.000 I am fully independent and you can support me there.

02:10:03.000 I go off into the deep, deep, deep, deep down the rabbit hole on a lot of crazy stuff, a lot of solutions, a lot of ways to not be victims of the state.

02:10:11.000 LukeUncensored.com is the website.

02:10:14.000 See you there.

02:10:14.000 And Ian Arthur Clarsland!

02:10:16.000 That's me!

02:10:16.000 Are you working out with me tomorrow?

02:10:18.000 No.

02:10:18.000 Come on!

02:10:20.000 I'm in!

02:10:21.000 I'm trying to start a fight.

02:10:23.000 I'm trying to do like some kickboxing with Ian.

02:10:25.000 Trying to start a fight?

02:10:26.000 No, like a fight club, like a nice one.

02:10:28.000 I just did 20 push-ups before the show, though.

02:10:30.000 I feel ripped, dude.

02:10:32.000 I'm getting big.

02:10:33.000 That's my plan for 2023.

02:10:34.000 What I do is I post it on Twitter and then I pin it, what I'm going to do that year.

02:10:38.000 And then every time I go on Twitter, I see my resolution and I'm reminded this year I'm building muscle.

02:10:41.000 I do a kickboxing.

02:10:42.000 I'm like, we got to do this, Ian.

02:10:43.000 Let's do this.

02:10:43.000 I work out every morning, 4.30am.

02:10:45.000 Oh, that's awesome.

02:10:46.000 I got no one to work out with me.

02:10:50.000 Powerful.

02:10:50.000 I got no one to work out with me.

02:10:51.000 Dude, I'm in.

02:10:52.000 I wanted to clarify, we talked about the ozone layer and things that were ripping it open in the 80s and 90s.

02:10:56.000 It was CFCs, you were right.

02:10:58.000 CFCs.

02:10:58.000 Chlorofluorocarbons, different than PFCs, which are polyfluorocarbons.

02:11:02.000 Yeah, those are plastics that are destroying the air.

02:11:04.000 Yeah, and the chlorofluorocarbons were in like hairspray and stuff.

02:11:06.000 So we got rid of a lot of that.

02:11:07.000 But I think the ozone, well, let's just talk about this stuff.

02:11:10.000 It's getting late.

02:11:11.000 Let's get going.

02:11:12.000 Serge, love you, man.

02:11:13.000 Yo, love you too, Ian.

02:11:14.000 My name is atstars.com.

02:11:16.000 I was on the podcast, the, uh, what is it called?

02:11:19.000 Pop culture podcast, pop culture crisis.

02:11:22.000 We did speak about Alec Baldwin as well.

02:11:24.000 Um, went kind of deep with that, but, uh, yeah, that's just fun.

02:11:27.000 I forgot to mention it yesterday.

02:11:28.000 So shout out pop culture price crisis. 0.99

02:11:30.000 Uh, yeah.

02:11:31.000 Ready for the after show.

02:11:32.000 All right, everybody.

02:11:33.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com.

02:11:36.000 We post the Uncensored Members Only to the front page around 10.50, 11 p.m.

02:11:41.000 We'll probably go a little bit later because we went late for this one, but we'll see you all there.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 20, 2023

Timcast IRL - Crowder Leaks Phone Call With Daily Wire As 'The Big Con' Drama Erupts w-Candace Owens

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